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ladydoorDie: /dev/sda1      /path/to/mountpoint/you/totally/already/created    auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=1000  0       012:01
ZoohouseNevermind, Just found a neat app: KTOONS12:01
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Diepaste it in?12:01
ladydoorDie: actually, cut out the uid bit12:01
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JacksLivrhello all.... Question. If i installed ubuntu and wish I had installed kubuntu... do i need to start over? or can i fix this by uninstalling gnome and installing KDE?12:01
SeanTaterDoes anyone have a wireless G card that works easily with Linux, something you'd recommend?12:01
seeking1alephant: you are nothing more than a mentally ill, and condescending pride filled arrogant boy!  You suffer depression and mental sickness and I suggest you go away and take your medication boy!12:01
aLPHa_LeaK n812:01
enlaceslidy12:01
ladydoorDie: please change it where appropriate. for example, please don't leave the imaginary path i put in there12:01
alephantlol12:01
enlaceshola12:02
iLLf8dheh12:02
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Jack_Sparrowalephant: rtfm is NOT appreciated in here12:02
iLLf8dladydoor, unless its an imaginary hd =P12:02
SeanTater!es > enlaces12:02
seeking1alephant: ppl with a low, unhealthy self esteem talk like you do, in a condesending manner!12:02
Dieso.... dev/sda1  ??12:02
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seeking1alephant: take your mental medication and go away12:02
SeanTaterJacksLivr: you can uninstall gnome and install kde12:02
ladydoorDie: first of all, it's /dev/sda1. second, that's not imaginary (at least i hope it's not--you did check, right?). look at the SECOND path in there.12:03
SeanTaterJacksLivr: installing kde and keeping gnome is easier though12:03
ladydoorDie: read the words in the second path12:03
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thoreauputicAnyone with some bandwidth who can grab the PPC edgy beta ISO - please joing the swarm at http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-beta-desktop-powerpc.iso.torrent We need seeds!12:03
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Jack_SparrowJacksLivr: Or you can just keep both or three or four12:03
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A-L-P-H-Awhat's an uber flow charting app?12:03
SeanTaterJacksLivr: install kubuntu-desktop12:03
JacksLivrand that will acomplish the same thing as if i had used kubuntu?12:03
iLLf8dmy neighbor told me his powersupply died, i told him I had a spare and would fix it for them, but they said no I could have it. I came home and in front of my door was keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers (apparently he thought the pc tower was the power supply)12:03
SeanTaterJacksLivr: yes12:03
ladydoorDie: the words that say "path to mountpoint you totally already created"12:03
hockyhairafter installing some updates mplayer is running very slow, and xv and xover modes do not work xvinfo shows no adapters present, need help!12:03
mon^rchthere is font inconsistancy if you use both gnome and kde...12:03
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SeanTaterJacksLivr: for even closer to the same thing, also install kdm12:03
mon^rchbetter to start over12:04
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Dieya.... there   I put in /dev/sda1   right?   thats where my drive is..12:04
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JacksLivrSeanTater: why keep gnome?12:04
ladydoorDie: yeah...i guess put it in pastebin after you're done.12:04
SeanTaterJacksLivr: but it;s difficult to remove12:04
Diepastebin?12:04
SeanTaterJacksLivr: /because it's difficult/12:04
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JacksLivrSeanTater: ok, how much space am i using with it?12:05
ladydoorDie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org...sorry12:05
ladydoorDie: and then send me the link12:05
SeanTaterJacksLivr: probably not more than 300 MB12:05
moonlitenautilus burn tells me this: "Please replace the disc in the drive with a supported disc with at least 4529 MiB free". But the disk i put in was a DVD-R 4.7GB disk, so why is it complaining, any ideas?12:05
thedashhow does one install motherboard drivers on linux?12:05
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Diesorry man.... i don't get it?   what do you want me to paste?12:05
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mon^rchJacksLivr, I would just start over with a kubuntu d/l it'll only take an hour...12:06
alephantthedash, you typically won't need to.  What are you trying to accomplish?12:06
thedashI am having some problems with my hardware, not sure the cause12:06
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Die/dev/sda1      /media/scsidisk    auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=1000  0       012:06
alephantpeppo: what's the status of your problem?  I'm utterly lost in this window :-)12:06
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ladydoorDie: yes, that was what i wanted you to paste. and i'm not a man; thus the nick.12:06
ethos_god I wish there was a way to remove those damn "leaving/entering" chats!12:06
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FlaXwhen doing mkinitrd it gives me command not found is it possible to fix that?12:06
SeanTaterJacksLivr: But if you do reinstsll and use kubuntu from scratch, DON'T FORGET TO BACKUP12:06
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Diesorry.... it's a figure of speach...12:07
Diesry12:07
Jack_Sparrowethos_: yes you can12:07
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JacksLivrSeanTater: is just installed ubuntu last night12:07
SeanTaterJacksLivr: good12:07
ladydoorDie: that should work, though i notice you did keep the uid part. i guess that's fine, if you want it to be owned by you. ok, now you can mount it :-)12:07
DieI'm just too much of a hippy for computers I think12:07
ethos_Jack_sparrow:oh ya?12:07
ladydoorDie: i'm a total hippy12:07
Dielolz12:07
JacksLivras long as it leaves my other partitions alone, ill be fine12:07
Jack_Sparrowethos_: Which IRC client do you use?12:07
ladydoorDie: lol...i'm not even kidding12:07
alephantDie: hippies were the original hackers12:07
Dieso I should save and exit then?12:07
SeanTaterJacksLivr: If you change distros often, you may want to have a data partition12:07
Dietrue12:08
SeanTaterJacksLivr: um-12:08
alephantDie: you're among friends :-D12:08
SeanTaterJacksLivr: I missed the above12:08
Dielolz12:08
Diethanks12:08
ladydoorDie: i'm just grumpy12:08
ethos_Jack_Sparrow:xchat-gnome...12:08
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alephantSo, does anybody have a clue about which linux-restricted-modules to use with a linux-image-server kernel?12:09
Kojima-Kazumahey12:09
Jack_Sparrowethos_: So you would ask...  How do you turn off join part notifications in Xchat-Gnome..?12:09
JacksLivrSeanTater: I had a laptop with xp on it and one big partition. i resized it last night and made a 10GB for ubuntu and a 25 fat32 for data. the Xp still works fine.12:09
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seeking1alephant: did you get my message?12:09
Kojima-Kazumaim having a problem installing sun java12:09
DieOh no!!!!.....12:09
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seeking1Kojima-Kazuma: its easy12:09
soniumcan I block access to a specific host?12:09
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Jack_Sparrowethos_: I personally use Konversation12:09
seeking1Kojima-Kazuma: get easyubuntu12:09
SeanTaterJacksLivr: I keep 2 partitions for os's and one for data so I can (re)install whenever I like12:09
ethos_Jack_Sparrow:ya that what I meant12:09
DieI exited and It didn't save....12:09
DieOOPS...12:09
seeking1Kojima-Kazuma: go to #easyubuntu12:09
alephantsonium: you can set an iptables rule pretty darn easy for that12:09
Kojima-Kazumaok12:10
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ethos_Jack_Sparrow:havent checked that out yet12:10
ladydoorDie: well, luckily you pasted the line to the channel :-)12:10
ladydoorDie: so now you can paste it right back in12:10
ladydoorDie: and then you can mount it12:10
ethos_Jack_Sparrow:I probably should huh?12:10
ladydoorDie: good luck!12:10
Jack_Sparrowethos_: Someone will answer it12:10
alephantIIANM iptables -A OUTPUT -d piratez.quake.com -j DROP12:10
Diedone...12:10
Diehow do I save it?12:10
ladydoorDie: control-o12:11
JacksLivrpart1: 47MB: dell rescue | part2: 25GB: XP | part3: 10GB ubuntu | part4: 1GB: swap | part5: 25GB :fat32 for data12:11
hockyhairi need somehelp getting mplayer to play at decent speeds again12:11
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Dieand    "enter"  ?12:11
ethos_Jack_Sparrow:well, I guess I should put more of an effort instead of crying wolf...12:11
Jack_Sparrowethos_: It will be in the settings12:11
ladydoorDie: i guess so12:11
JacksLivri can install kubuntu on the 10GB with no prob and keep all the other stuff happy, right?12:11
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thedashso, I am having some problems, and I can't seem to find the source.  I am trying to copy files from a USB2.0 drive to a SATA II drive, and while my math says it should finish in about 5 seconds, the "time remaining" bar says something usually around 1 hour, 35 minutes12:12
Diedo I have to restart My PC?12:12
mon^rchyes j12:12
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FlannelDie: right, it'll prompt you for a filename after the ^o12:12
ladydoorDie: nope! only for new kernels12:12
surabachii am havin gmajor issues compiling gimmie bar, any help would be greatly apreciated. my problem is a huge mystery to most!!!!12:12
Dieok12:12
ethos_Jack_Sparrow:ya, i've been checking out all places I would think the setting would be at.  I just havent found it yet12:12
Flannelsurabachi: what problems?12:12
ladydoorDie: so now do mount /dev/sda112:12
surabachiFlannel, like afte rit compiles it wont run12:12
Flannelsurabachi: what errors do you get?12:13
surabachiFlannel, i will send u a link to a more detailed explanation of my problem12:13
ladydoorDie: (you may need to use sudo)12:13
randreas69I'm going to reinstall, is there a fully automated way to get XGL working?12:13
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Flannel!tell randreas69 about xgl12:13
Dieya.... when I go to mount it ... it does nothing...12:13
surabachiFlannel,  go here to see my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26748612:13
Diewhat line would I type in?12:14
Flannelthedash: USB bandwidth isn't the same as transfer speed12:14
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randreas69k ty12:14
Hooked-on-GLjoin #imp12:14
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ladydoorDie: you mean it didn't mount? do df -h /media/whateverThatMountPointWas12:14
alephantthedash, how much are you trying to copy?12:14
thedashabout 150 MB12:14
surabachiFlannel,  you get my link?12:14
drew_Does anyone know what the old worms-like tank game was called from windows 95-ish? And is there a port available for Linux?12:14
ladydoorDie: what's it spit out?12:14
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randreas69I r**ed slackware to give it a try too.. no such luck12:14
randreas69I'm keeping my gentoo stable too12:14
Diebash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'12:15
alephantthedash, and have you wated out the usb transfer to see how long it actually takes?12:15
ladydoorDie: ok, "do" in this context means "type in." sorry i wasn't more clear12:15
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alephantdrew_: scorched earth!?!?12:15
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ladydoorDie: mount /dev/sda1 . you may need to sudo it.12:15
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peppowhat to do if a friend can't even log in to the 1st console as root, and sudo is broken?12:16
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mon^rchreinstall12:16
mon^rch:-)12:16
alephantpeppo: try an Ubuntu rescue disk to see whether you can hand-fix...12:16
surabachianyone good at compiling errors?12:16
peppohe's a novice12:16
peppoand I'm not there12:16
alephant...but mon^rch may also be correct12:16
alephant:-D12:16
ladydoorpeppo: actually, you can boot to the recovery-mode12:16
peppohow the hell can /etc/sudoers break?12:16
Dieit's not doing anything.... just blinking.... not even going back to prompt.12:17
thedashalso, my computer seems to "skip" a lot now.  If I tell it to do anything, it will freeze for 1-3 seconds, about once every 10 seconds12:17
ladydoorpeppo: it's one of the options in grub. also, please don't curse.12:17
Dieand my PC's freezing up....12:17
alephantthedash, wow, that sounds just like a problem I had with some old IBM hardware...12:17
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ladydoorDie: errr...what kind of filesystem is it?12:17
alephantthedash: does the problem go away if you reboot, but then come back again after "a while"?12:17
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gimmulfWhats the best backup tool to use?12:17
ladydoorDie: also, you *did* check to make sure it existed, right? you never did answer me12:17
thedashno, its immediate as far as I can see12:17
new2linxcan some1 tell how to take a screenshot in xubuntu? when I hit the prt scrn button on my laptop nothing happens?12:18
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alephantthedash: the slowdown is immediate?12:18
thedashand its not that old of hardware12:18
Diethe sda1?   it's ubuntu... the whole thing12:18
ladydoornew2linx: does something happen or doesn't it12:18
Dieya it exists12:18
new2linxnothing happens12:18
thedashits only if I am doing something intensive, like copying files, or loading stuff12:18
alephantthedash: is your computer clock correct?12:18
thedashyes12:18
new2linxis that something I have to setup in  a keymapping file?12:18
ladydoornew2linx: yeat12:18
alephantthedash: so how long does your usb transfer actually take?12:18
new2linxladydoor can you tell how?12:18
ladydoorDie: so what kind of filesystem is it?12:19
thedashits still trying to figure it out12:19
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Dieim not too sure... what is ubuntu by default?12:19
new2linxcan someone help me map the print screen button to take a screenshot in xubuntu?12:19
thedashits been copying the first file [about 3 MB]  for the past 14 minutes12:19
Diethe other drive is a brand newrive with only ubuntu on it12:19
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alephantthedash: hm.12:19
ladydoornew2linx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237408 . replace the "mute sound" stuff with your button.12:19
alephantthedash: can you see any error messages in /var/log/syslog or dmesg?12:20
Dieit's not NTFSanything12:20
jimmy_neutronanyone? im getting the error "network access denied" when i try to map a samba share12:20
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alephantI need to go!12:20
new2linxladydoor i'll check it out. is it going to self explanatory?12:20
alephantpeppo, thedash, good luck12:20
alephantgotta run12:20
ladydoorDie: ok. is it still frozen? also, what environment are you in currently?12:20
peppothanks12:20
drew_Is there a linux port available for scorched earth?12:20
ladydoornew2linx: i tried to make it that way...it starts a couple posts down, by LadyDoor12:20
mon^rchdrew_,  yeppers12:20
thedashyes, dmesg returns a lot of errors12:21
drew_mon^rch, what's it called/12:21
ladydoorDie: i.e., are you on a livecd or something?12:21
surabachii am having major gimmie compiling issues, please help!!12:21
Dieim in GNOME  and it freezes in and out for 3 or 4 seconds at a time.... and it happensevery 10 second or so12:21
mon^rchscorched earth, actually12:21
drew_rofl.12:21
new2linxTHANK YOU.12:21
jimmy_neutronim getting the error "network access denied" when i try to map a samba share, any ideas?12:21
thedashmostly like: [17190715.256000]  ata1: command 0x25 timeout, stat 0x58 host_stat 0x6012:21
mon^rchit's in the repos...12:21
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surabachiFlannel, you back yet?12:21
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new2linxladydoor, next thing, i can't get an iso image mounted? i am using sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 FC3-i386-disc1.iso /mnt/iso12:22
ladydoorDie: that's truly bizarre. i'm really sorry, i've got nothing on that--theoretically, it should've worked if the computer was detecting it and it's formatted properly and all. i'd ask the whole channel.12:22
new2linxand it doesn't work?12:22
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ladydoornew2linx: does /mnt/iso exist?12:22
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thoreauputicnew2linx: does the dir /mnt/iso exist?12:22
ladydoornew2linx: does it work or doesn't it?12:22
thoreauputicheh12:22
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harisundWhat does -o loop mean in a mount command?12:23
mon^rchdrew_,  reprint... it's called scorched3d12:23
ladydoornew2linx: if something doesn't work, you don't have to *ask* us whether it works or not--a question mark means it's a question.12:23
new2linxladydoor yes, this is what it says. mount: Not a directory12:23
DieI had it working yesterday just fine.... but the person who helped me gave me a  waebsite.... I lost the site though......12:23
eurytusto use a file as a loopback device12:23
Dieit was really simple too.12:23
new2linxdoesn't work~!12:23
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surabachii have errors when trying to run gimmie bar after i compile it, and make it?12:23
thoreauputic!doesn't work12:23
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.12:23
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GameOver69can anyone help me with the following error? http://pastebin.com/79642012:23
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ladydoornew2linx: right, so does the dir exist?12:23
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ladydoornew2linx: (ls /mnt...if it doesn't spit anything out, it doesn't exist)12:24
new2linxladydoor, i meant to write a !12:24
jimmy_neutroncan someone help me plz? i get the network access denied when i try to mnt samba share in win. help!12:24
thoreauputicnew2linx: sudo mkdir /mnt/iso12:24
matt__how do I install flash 7 on breezy??12:24
ladydoornew2linx: fair enough12:24
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Dieim gonna try a restart....12:24
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Diethat always helps.12:24
thoreauputic!flash12:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:24
mon^rchthoreauputic, its better to make mount points in /media for ubuntu12:24
new2linxthoreauputic, i know that thank you!12:24
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surabachican i have help with compiling?12:24
thoreauputicmon^rch: I'm aware of the convention12:25
ladydoornew2linx: ok, i've got to run. please check to see if the dir exists, and if not, create it with mkdir12:25
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thoreauputicmon^rch: in pracice either works fine12:25
thoreauputic*practice12:25
new2linxmon^rch,  that's where I actaully have it, i just posted that cause that the example I followed from a forum and didn't feel like changing it again.12:25
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surabachihttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26748612:25
new2linxladydoor, the dir exists12:25
jimmy_neutronsomeone gas to know the answer12:25
surabachii need help with that error12:25
Kojima-KazumaIm have trouble with easy ubuntu and no one is replying in the easy ubuntu rooom12:25
Kojima-Kazumacan any one help12:26
surabachiKojima-Kazuma,  whast ur problem12:26
thoreauputic!easyubuntu12:26
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.12:26
new2linxthoreauputic, can you help me diagnos this?12:26
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surabachianyone want a challenging problem to try and help me wiht, no one has solved it yet, its just a big mystery12:27
thoreauputicnew2linx: well, mount -o loop name.iso /mount/point  should work - you need sudo I suspect12:27
LjL!ask12:27
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:27
Kojima-KazumaWhen i install easy ubuntu and try to run it nothing happens and when ever my comp. tries to load java the app. would shut down12:27
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new2linxthoreauputic, after I type in sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 sp-tw07.iso /media/isoimage12:27
new2linxPassword:12:27
new2linxmount: Not a directory12:27
jimmy_neutroni get the network access denied when i try to mnt samba share in win. help!12:27
new2linxthoreauputic, i am using sudo?12:27
LjL!tell Kojima-Kazuma about nothing12:27
new2linxthoreauputic, what's up with this?12:27
thoreauputicnew2linx: umm - I take it you have a dir called /media/isoimage12:27
Kojima-Kazumawtf12:27
surabachihttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26748612:27
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new2linxthoreauputic, yes12:27
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fscottHello12:28
Shadowpillarnew2linx: does /media/isoimage actually exist?12:28
ascWhich gstreamer plugin, if any, adds .m4a support?12:28
new2linxthoreauputic, maybe i'll try somthing else, can you inform me of a prgram that can extract an iso12:28
new2linxShadowline, yes12:28
asdfawhat is the command to start vmware player in ubuntu?12:28
LjLasdfa: strangely enough, "vmware-player" ;)12:28
thoreauputicnew2linx: you don't extract an iso - it's an image12:28
new2linxShadowline, come on now, i am not that dumb. i am a newbie but come on.12:28
new2linxtho12:28
Kojima-Kazumaso does anyone know whats wrong ...12:29
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Shadowpillarnew2linx: sudo mkdir /media/isoimage12:29
Shadowpillarnew2linx: and try the other again12:29
LjLasdfa: oh sorry it's actually "vmplayer", my bad12:29
thoreauputicnew2linx: but I think file-roller can handle iso s12:29
new2linxthoreauputic, exactly, am image of a bunch of stuff and I need to extract the contents to my xbox.12:29
rem__hey where can you see the system specifications ... ? /proc/ .. ?12:29
surabachihelp with compiling anyone?12:29
new2linxShadowline,12:29
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LjLasdfa: anyway a tip, if you type "dpkg -L name-of-package", it will show all files that a package contains... you can usually find the name of the executable from there12:29
new2linxShadowline, i already dd that12:29
new2linxShadowline, dd=did12:29
fscottI'm messing around with software RAID and have some questions about it.  Does anyone feel like answering what are probably dumb questions?12:29
asdfaLjL: thx12:30
Subhumanfscott, !ask12:30
Subhuman!ask12:30
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:30
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new2linxthoreauputic, i have been unsuccessful in burning it to a dvd as nero linux erros out as well as gnomebaker??? i am trying anything to get this game on my xbox?12:30
surabachicompiling help please?12:30
thoreauputicnew2linx: just a guess - try running sudo modprobe loop first12:30
rem__hey where can you see the system specifications ... ? /proc/ .. ?12:30
ZambeziI have big problems with K3B. It doesn't erase my DVD+RW. Is there an option to K3B?12:31
thoreauputicnew2linx: I assume the iso is actually OK - is the md5sum correct?12:31
matt__why is it some video sites say i need the newest version of flash installed and i just installed it12:31
new2linxthoreauputic, NOOP, tried it, nothing spit out so I am guessing it was successful but then whn I did the mount command again I getthe same eror?12:31
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surabachimatt__, cause u need flash 9, and linux dosent have flash 912:31
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matt__ooooh, so how do i get flash 912:32
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thoreauputicrem__: try  lshw | less12:32
rem__ty12:32
new2linxthoreauputic, letsassume so!12:32
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new2linxthoreauputic, oops, lets asume so.12:32
surabachimatt__, u cant really. But do u have wine?12:32
scratchmeWhen you run Ubuntu, and you have an app say, FireFox, what's the best way to update it, if it was in the list of installable apps via System: Administration: Add Applications ?12:32
rem__/proc/cpuinfo is what i needed :)12:32
peppohrm. a user should be in the "users" group right? using users-admin, and it's not showing the "regular user" as part of users. it was also not part of admin, so we had to add that username to /etc/sudoers manually12:32
fscottfair enough.  I've set up RAID with two identical IDE disks.  For now, they are master and slave on the same cable.  I know that's bad performance wise, but it works well enough for testing.  / is set up as RAID1, and swap is RAID0.  I can switch which drive is master and slave, and the system works fine.  But if I disconnect the slave, the system won't boot anymore.12:32
surabachican i have help compiling?12:32
thoreauputicnew2linx: well, your command looks OK so I'm running out of ideas12:32
matt__ya i have wine12:32
FlaX!boot12:32
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:32
new2linxthoreauputic, i'll try to mount an iso that I know is good than i'll let you know12:32
thoreauputick12:33
mon^rchwine rocks...12:33
surabachimatt__,  search google for somethign called ie4linux12:33
fscottTo make that a question, let me add the following.  "WTF?"12:33
Shadowpillar<Zambezi> I have big problems with K3B. It doesn't erase my DVD+RW. Is there an option to K3B? <-- did you fixate the disk?12:33
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Shadowpillarmatt__: wait until february12:33
Shadowpillar;O12:33
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matt__ok thanks12:33
ZambeziShadowline, Fixate?12:33
surabachiShadowpillar, is february when flash 9 comes out?12:33
new2linxthoreauputic, how can i go back one directory in th terminal? without having to type in the whole location again?12:33
LjLnew2linx: "cd .."12:33
LjL!cli12:33
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands12:33
mon^rchcd ..12:34
thoreauputic cd ..12:34
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Shadowpillarmatt__: or for those sites that need it right now, install the latest wine from the winehq repositories and download firefox for windows and install flash 912:34
Shadowpillarsurabachi: they're aiming for that time, might be sooner12:34
surabachithoreauputic, can i have help with an error i get trying to run a program after i compile it?12:34
new2linxthoreauputic,  see I am a newbie. NO cd is just going t take me back to my home location. i don't want that12:34
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surabachiShadowpillar,  i cant wait!!12:34
new2linxthoreauputic, i only want to go back 1 folder12:34
thoreauputicnew2linx: two dots12:34
thoreauputicnew2linx:  cd ..12:34
sorush20can't i upload image to the paste bin anymore?12:34
Shadowpillarnew2linx: ...12:35
Shadowpillarnew2linx: cd is a command12:35
gnomefreaksorush20: no12:35
Shadowpillarstands for "change directory"12:35
surabachignomefreak,  can i have help with a compiling issue?12:35
new2linxthoreauputic, oh cd and then a space and then 2 dots, thanks, hang on, I am gonna try to mount an iso I know is good12:35
scratchmeWhat's the best way to update the dependencies for the System: Administration: Add Applications in Ubuntu?12:35
LjLnew2linx: "cd .." -- that's  c d dot dot12:35
Shadowpillarnew2linx: and .. means the previous directory in unix terms12:35
scratchme(get the new stuff)12:35
thedashI believe I have figured out my problem, but I have no way to know how to fix it12:35
matt__ya it works on wine thanks guys12:35
gnomefreaksurabachi: that will depends on the problem you are having12:35
mon^rch(space)12:35
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scratchmeFor example, it shows that I'm upto date, but I got firefox 1.07 and FireFox 1.5x is the latest.12:35
surabachignomefreak, my problem is a bit long to explain so i wrote it at this link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26748612:36
LjL!ff1.512:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ff1.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:36
new2linxthoreauputic, Interesting, that one won'12:36
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gnomefreak!ff12:36
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:36
LjL!firefox12:36
mon^rchfirefox bon echo is a lil better (methinks)12:36
surabachignomefreak,  no one has been able to solve my problem yet, its a huge mystery12:36
thoreauputicAnyone with a bit of bandwidth who wants to help the Ubuntu PPC community - please help to seed the Edgy beta torrent12:36
new2linxthoreauputic, 't mount either! it might be because they are xbox images and not normal iso9660's??12:36
thedashis there any way to check a RAID setup from the OS?12:36
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thoreauputicnew2linx: no idea, sorry12:37
LjLthoreauputic: okee. is someone behind a NAT useful?12:37
sorush20could someone recommend another paste bin with image support please.. and change to topic to tell everyone12:37
new2linxthoreauputic, i burn them using alcohol the sameway thoough???12:37
thoreauputicLjL: sure, if you forward your torrent ports12:37
fscott!raid12:37
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO12:37
scratchmeLjL, thx.12:37
gnomefreaksurabachi: there is not really a fix for it  gimmie needs to be re-worked its looking for files ubuntu no longer uses12:37
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LjLthoreauputic: no can do, the NAT is on the ISP side12:37
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new2linxthoreauputic, well can you help me burn an iso? or point me out to a program that spits out the contents of an iso into adirectory?12:37
surabachignomefreak,  thnask i wil ltel lthem12:37
scratchmeHeh, compared to ##windows, this channel hops.12:38
FlaX!grub12:38
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:38
mon^rch(doesnt file-roller browse iso's)?12:38
thoreauputicnew2linx: you can burn an ISO from nautilus by right-click on the file - but if it isn't an ISO, that won't really help much :)12:38
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thoreauputicnew2linx: what does the command "file nameofyourfile.iso " say ? ( no quotes, substitute your file name from the same dir)12:39
new2linxthoreauputic, it is an iso, it has .iso. i tried the nautilus thingy and it failed also. hang on i'll do what you asked12:39
thoreauputicmon^rch: I believe it does, in fact I mentioned that about 15 minutes ago ;-)12:40
mon^rchyepp...12:40
new2linxthoreauputic, ah ha, this is what it states, clr-totov.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data12:40
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new2linxthoreauputic, awesome, so wtf?12:40
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thoreauputicnew2linx: looks OK from here - hang on a tic12:40
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WhiteDethCan someone tell me what's going on here? - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25028/12:41
fscottHas anyone else tried using software RAID with IDE drives?12:41
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new2linxthoreauputic, k12:41
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thoreauputicnew2linx: yes, that seems right for an ISO :)12:41
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mon^rchamazing the ammount of users for such an early distro, eh???12:42
thoreauputicnew2linx: what does   lsmod | grep loop  say ?12:42
new2linxthoreauputic, hang on, i'll tell u in a sec12:42
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thoreauputicmon^rch: either I'm burned out, or the average IQ in #ubuntu is trending downwards ;-)12:43
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mon^rchnow, be nice...12:43
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thoreauputic;-) joking :)12:43
mon^rch:-D12:43
WhiteDethhow is ubuntu and early distro?12:43
WhiteDeth*an12:44
thoreauputicWhiteDeth: less than 2 years old12:44
mon^rchbecause it's relatively young in comparison...12:44
WhiteDethyoung in comparison doesnt mean people wont bite :)12:44
mon^rchhey... BITE away... ubuntu rocks12:44
new2linxthoreauputic, loop                   18536  012:44
WhiteDethand it has other perks too remember? Only reason I chose Ubuntu over any of the other builds is because of how well it goes with XGL :)12:44
thoreauputicnew2linx: OK just making sure the module was loaded - so that isn't it either12:45
scratchme!aptitude12:45
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide12:45
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scratchmeHow do you "get" the aptitude program?12:46
scratchmeapt-get install aptitude12:46
scratchme?12:46
mon^rchdont forget to sudo...12:47
new2linxthoreauputic, ?12:47
thoreauputicscratchme: it's already there :)12:47
scratchmeWasn't for me.12:47
mon^rch:012:47
thoreauputicyes, it is12:47
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Phoul Im buying a new moniter, 17 or 19" tonight, How would i go about setting it up? ((hard?))12:47
thoreauputicscratchme: it's installed by default12:47
mon^rchplug it in12:47
Phoulmon^rch, what about the sync and mode lines and such12:48
scratchmethoreauputic, that's great, but it wasn't on this install.12:48
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tathmm.. anyone good with pam_mount? i use it to mount some smb-shares when i log in. some times my network is not plugged in when i do that (using a laptop).. is it possible to mount the shares without a pass afterwards?12:48
thoreauputicscratchme: well, you are not running ubuntu then12:48
mon^rchtheyre built into the monitor12:48
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scratchmethoreauputic, I guess that's not ubuntu it says as the OS starts.12:49
mon^rchtrust me itll just work...12:49
new2linxthoreauputic, i am trying to burn a data cd to see if my burner is working?12:49
thoreauputicscratchme: I won't argue with you - see what  apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard and apt-cache rdepends aptitude say12:49
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new2linxthoreauputic, how can i find other channels to go to for more specific help? I amnew to irc'ing?12:50
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thoreauputicscratchme: sorry, apt-cache depends ubuntu-minimal12:51
scratchmethoreauputic, a whole big list of apps.12:51
mon^rch(holy evil /nick's batman)12:51
thoreauputicapt-cache depends ubuntu-minimal | grep aptitude12:51
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new2linxthoreauputic, hello?12:51
scratchmeWell, the first one ubuntu-stanndard  doesn't have it.12:51
scratchmeThe  minimal does.12:52
thoreauputicnew2linx: *cough* I'm doing several things here - be patient please12:52
scratchmeAnyway, I got it now.12:52
scratchmeVia apt-get.12:52
thoreauputicscratchme: that's why I corrected myself12:52
mon^rchlol poof12:53
thoreauputicscratchme: you don't get an ubuntu install without ubuntu-minimal - thus aptitude is there from the start - trust me12:53
new2linxthoreauputic, i was trying to be patient. asked a q and then waited awhile, then double checked to see if you were gonna answer me. sorry12:53
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thoreauputicnew2linx: just address your questions to the channel - I'm not always here and in any case I've run out of ideas to be frank12:54
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scratchmethoreauputic, well, which  aptitude retured nothing.12:55
new2linxthoreauputic, ok, i am asking how do i find another channel, i am new to irc'ing?12:55
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scratchmeAlso, when I tried to run the firefox  1.5.0 upgrade/install  script from ubotu, it said it was a misssing command.12:55
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thoreauputicscratchme: *sigh* I've told you the truth - you must have doen something creative to manage not to have aptitude12:55
Stevois there any way in the cli to see if there's errors due to use of Automatix?12:55
mon^rchnew2linx, what prog. u using?12:55
THX-1138Hi - How do you restart a finished torrent ( Wanted to give back some bandwidth to Ubuntu.)12:56
scratchmethoreauputic, go to VMWare download Ubuntu Web Browsing appliance, and see for yourself.12:56
scratchmeIt's a pre-install of ubuntu.12:56
new2linxmon^rch, none yet, i am having a difficult time working with  xbox iso's in linux12:56
scratchmeYou'll have to download about 1GB to prove me wrong though.12:56
thoreauputicscratchme: see what for myself? That's a third-party blob - not an Ubuntu install12:56
new2linxi either want to burn it to a dvd or extract it and ftp into my xbox12:56
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new2linxmon^rch, i either want to burn it to a dvd or extract it and ftp into my xbox12:57
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scratchmeWell, I didn't say *I* installed it, I just asked  how to add aptitude.12:57
scratchmeThanks though.12:57
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thoreauputicscratchme: heheh - OK well you've corrected the mistake so that's cool :)12:57
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mon^rchnew2linx, I tried doing xbox for my bro, without much success. sorry12:58
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THX-1138Hi thoreauputic - How do i make the ubuntu tracker aware of the torrent file i have already downloaded?12:58
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stu_whats the channel for beryl or whatever?12:58
new2linxmon^rch, you tried chipping one?12:58
thoreauputicTHX-1138: just click it - should open in gnome-btdownload or watever it is called12:59
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thoreauputic*whatever12:59
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new2linxmon^rch, or you tried working with downloaded iso's. i mean working with an iso I backed up from the game I OWN!12:59
mon^rchnah, just burning iso's and copyright protection... they just plain ol' didnt work12:59
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fredrichanyone know if there's a mediatomb deb file abounds in the wild somewhere?12:59
gnomefreakstu_: #ubuntu-xgl12:59
fredrichi have a hard time getting it workin12:59
THX-1138"gnome-btdownload' - Okay i can google the rest. - Thank You.12:59
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new2linxmon^rch, hello?01:00
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mon^rchsee above01:00
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thoreauputicTHX-1138: you don't need to - just click the torrent file01:00
godtviskenMy MBR is on my windows HDD, but I want to take that HDD out and move it into a different computer. How can I put my MBR on my linux drive?01:00
thoreauputicTHX-1138: by default it will open in the bittorrent client01:01
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new2linxmon^rch, oh, thanks anyway01:01
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mon^rchsorry01:01
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GameOver69can anyone help me with the following error? http://pastebin.com/79642001:02
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peppowhat's the package manager called in ubuntu? a friend wants to know. where in menus can it be found?01:02
new2linxmon^rch, i didn't see your answer cause it wasn't in red. i am new to irc. how do i go to a dirrent channel01:02
peppoer, in version 6.01:02
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mon^rchnew2linx, type /join #linux01:02
mon^rchor something else01:03
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mon^rchmake sure you use #01:03
Shishpeppo: synaptic is the standard one, but there are several (although they all use the apt back end)01:03
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peppomust it be installed manually? he can't find it01:03
peppohe said it was under Administration in ubuntu 501:03
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Shishit's installed by default -- without it, you wouldn't be able to install anything else :P01:03
new2linxmon^rch, that didn't work01:04
peppoa GUI package manager?01:04
thoreauputicSystem- ADmin- Synaptic Package Manager01:04
peppothanks01:04
mon^rchnew2linx, then you didnt type it correctly01:04
godtviskenMy MBR is on my windows HDD, but I want to take that HDD out and move it into a different computer. How can I put my MBR on my linux drive?01:04
thoreauputicpeppo: but easier is add/remove programs in the main menu01:04
new2linxmon^rch, /join #linux01:04
mon^rchwhat kinda weird client are you using then???01:05
PhantLinux n00b here. I just installed ubuntu, and was looking for software that would play a shoutcast stream.01:05
new2linxmon^rch, tried again, same thing. how can i view a list of channels available on freenode?01:05
MakuraRyuI would like to make a ubuntu file server that is windows compatible. I just finished installing the server version of ubuntu what else should I do, all I get is the command line01:05
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thoreauputicPhant: sudo aptitude install streamtuner xmms streamripper01:05
MakuraRyuthanks in advance01:05
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shwagtrying to install xen.  the wiki says  sh install.sh   should say "OK"  but it doesnt.  It says not a valid dis dir, source-only release. the guide doesnt tell me what to do next.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenOnUbuntuBinaryInstall01:05
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thoreauputicMakuraRyu: sudo aptitude install samba01:06
ladydoorMakuraRyu: ummm, a server doesn't come with a gui--it's more secure, since you need to know what you're doing at least a little to screw it up.01:06
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thoreauputic!samba > MakuraRyu01:06
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PhantThanks.01:06
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shwagoh, its because i downloaded the source and not the binary01:07
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starleafUmm help please... No acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:07
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thoreauputic!b-e01:07
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:07
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ladydoorstarleaf: install build-essential01:07
thoreauputic!repositories01:08
starleafThanks! :)01:08
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:08
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ladydoorstarleaf: np :-)01:08
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mon^rchnew2linx, sorry, gtg supper calls (google is your friend)01:08
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new2linxmonwow, thanx01:08
peppois synaptic installed by default?01:08
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LjLyes01:09
LjL!synaptic01:09
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto01:09
fatbrain!msfonts01:09
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto01:09
der0bhey folks, is there some place, some rc file that I can set up some default options for bittorent?01:09
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MakuraRyu@thoreauputic thanks01:09
thoreauputicMakuraRyu: np :)01:09
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PhantThoreauptic, works great. thanks again.01:10
thoreauputicPhant: nice isn't it ? :-)01:10
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harisundHello! Is there any web based software that allows me to administrate *all* aspects of my machine? (And one that is supported in Ubuntu?)01:10
thedashI think Ubuntu hates me01:10
PhantYes it is.01:10
superkirbyartistJ need help: I get error 8 (Connect script failed) with wvdial.01:10
bouananhi01:10
likewhoa54did lilo project get abandoned?01:10
LjLharisund: i think the closest to that would be webmin...01:10
harisund!webmin01:10
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.01:10
PhantNext thig to figure out is how to broadcast to the shoutcast server from it.01:10
LjLhm01:10
thoreauputicPhant: if you click the record button, it rips the stream for you  as well01:10
Phantsweet!01:11
peppohe has synaptic01:11
peppobut no entry in the menus01:11
peppoweird01:11
thoreauputicPhant: if you want to stream music, look at gnump3d01:11
superkirbyartistExcuse me?!01:11
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PhantI'll look into that. thanks alot.01:11
thoreauputic!gnump3d01:12
ubotugnump3d: A streaming server for MP3 and OGG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.8-2 (dapper), package size 634 kB, installed size 2676 kB01:12
thedashI think my Ubuntu is sick01:12
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menacedoes someone use a wintv pv 250 with ubuntu?01:12
thedashit times out trying to display a folder on my OS drive, and nautilus closes :X01:12
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Rastare01:12
jimmy_neutronhow do i remove this: Linux Linux 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux      from the ssh welcome msg when looging in via ssh?01:12
superkirbyartistPlease help me.  I get error 8 with wvdial.01:12
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thoreauputicjimmy_neutron: probably edit /etc/issue.net ( not certain but that is likely)01:13
Rastai have a fresh install of Hoary, it would be better update that installation or instal Dapper drake from scratch?01:13
hondjejimmy_neutron: edit /etc/motd01:13
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delaneyCurious if anyone knows of a way to change the firefox icon that appears in the taskbar.. that ugly blue globe drives me BONKERS01:13
thoreauputicjimmy_neutron: hmm maybe not - that only has the Ubuntu version in it01:14
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thoreauputichondje: ah, yes motd! thanks01:14
matthew_wIs there a way to network my Xbox 360 to my Linux box so I can use media center?01:14
SEN-5421hi... I am looking for the default linux kernel .config file that comes with Ubuntu 6.06 dapper. Where can I get a copy?01:14
hondjethoreauputic: No problem ... but now I'm wondering if PrintMotd no is default or if I did that myself :-/01:14
jimmy_neutronthx. just found it01:14
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thoreauputichondje: I think you did it yourself - that is definitely what I see when I ssh into an Ubuntu box01:15
thoreauputic:001:15
hondjeokay :)01:15
thoreauputicoops . :-)01:15
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jiShmatthew_w: you can't use media center with anything other than windows media center 2k501:15
jiShmatthew_w: there are a few programs in the works to enable music streaming though01:15
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thoreauputicSEN-5421: in /boot01:16
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jiShmatthew_w: check at www.xbox-scene.com01:16
matthew_wCool, thanks.01:16
matthew_wThat's all I wanted to do was music stream, anyway.01:16
matthew_wCheers.01:16
SEN-5421thoreauputic, yes, I do not have Ubuntu installed at the moment. I need a copy of this .config file now though.01:16
jiShnp01:16
SEN-5421thoreauputic, know of a copy online? or can you post it to pastebin.ca ?01:16
ocrathere is a boot manager in ubuntu?01:17
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xophergrub?01:17
moonliteocra: well yes, grub i think01:17
ocrai need to manage boot and re make the lilo, windows repair caused this...01:17
xopheror what do you mean by boot manager?01:17
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hot_wheelzHi guys how's it going?01:17
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moonliteeven windows has a boot manager you know (that it happily installs in MBR without asking on installation)01:17
thoreauputicSEN-5421: it depends what you mean - the one on the CD or the security updated ones ? 386 arch?01:17
jack_hello01:17
MrRiohot_wheelz, hey there :)01:18
sidmanhello!01:18
jack_chg01:18
matthew_wjiSh: Where is it on this page?01:18
xopherocra, just reinstall it to the hdd's MBR01:18
sidmanI got a question?01:18
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MrRiosidman: sure, ask away01:18
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SEN-5421thoreauputic, x86 linux kernel .config that comes with Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper.01:18
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hunkyspunkyhello01:18
jack_i am jack01:18
hunkyspunkyi got a little problem,01:18
thoreauputicSEN-5421: it has changed since the 6.06.1 release01:18
ocrawhats the speedy and true way for this? i dont wanna go for reinstall...01:18
SEN-5421thoreauputic, the one that you get installed on your system by default.01:18
sidmanhow good is ubuntu at finding devices on my computer?01:18
hunkyspunkygot the latest unbuntu live cd from shipit01:19
SEN-5421thoreauputic, ANYONE works.01:19
jack_i like cheese01:19
SEN-5421:-(01:19
thoreauputicSEN-5421: I no longer have that one01:19
Bennedettoanyone here have any suggestions for some hard drive based mp3 players that are supported in ubuntu?01:19
wantedhi, how i read with totem the file in the samba directory(of other pc)?01:19
Bennedettoi dont like using proprietary software to transfer music01:19
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hot_wheelzguys i have a sugestion on how to imporove 6.10 just a bit01:19
redcardWow.01:19
MrRiosidman: pretty good, what hardware have you got?01:19
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likewhoa54hot_wheelz: REALLY? YOU HAVE an IDEA?01:19
godtviskenHow can I move my MBR and grub stuff from one HDD (which I want to take out) to another?01:19
hunkyspunkywhen i run live cd i just get a screen with green lines through.. but the previous version of ubuntu work...01:19
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hunkyspunkyi got the nvidia 6800 256mn video card01:19
likewhoa54hot_wheelz: amazing....I'm glad you have opinions....feel free to email dev team at support@microsoft.com and we'll get right on it01:19
redcardUmm.. This Dapper -> Edgy upgrade held back a ton of packages.  Now X doesn't start at all.. and I noticed Xserver-core is one of the packages held back.01:19
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jerrcshi. i have a problem: "passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info."01:19
Lunar_LampBennedetto - i have a Cowon iAudio X5 - it is a little old now but still VERY good, and support is being made in RockBox (a linux OS for mp3 players)01:20
der0bhey folks, is there some place, some rc file that I can set up some default options for bittorent?  things like min & max port and upload rate?01:20
redcardSo how do I get it to remove all holdbacks?01:20
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Lunar_Lampredcard - did you "dist-upgrade" too?01:20
redcardLunar_Lamp: Yes.01:20
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hondjelikewhoa54: Is there a reason you're flaming someone without hearing what they have to say, or are you so unbelievably arrogant that you don't think any improvements are worthy of hearing?01:20
MrRiohey, no need to be so sarcastic to hot_wheelz01:20
sidmanwell, I got a p4, cd rom dvd/cd rw and networkcard and a hard drive ide01:20
redcardLunar_Lamp: I have Nvidia drivers in play, and I recompiled those as well.01:20
MrRiohot_wheelz, what's your idea?01:20
BennedettoLunar_Lamp: i was looking at that one, but i didn't seem to use drag and drop functionality01:20
sidmanand nvidia01:20
hunkyspunkycan anyone help me in a pm ?01:20
Lunar_Lampdrag and drop? i use it all the time01:20
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Lunar_Lampit's a usb hard drive that can play music in effect01:21
redcardLunar_Lamp:  X is linked to /bin/true.01:21
SEN-5421can someone please paste a copy of their linux kernel .config file to a website so that I can check some IDE / SCSI module settings?01:21
BennedettoLunar_Lamp: in the dreaded windows too?01:21
likewhoa54hondje: the arrogant part is right01:21
redcardI mean, literally, it held back all of X :)01:21
likewhoa54hondje: you got me there01:21
Lunar_LampBennedetto - yes01:21
Bennedettoalright, im sold01:21
SEN-5421Ubuntu 6.06 that is01:21
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Lunar_Lampjust copy folders of files over into the MUSIC folder on the player and theyll be picked up and play01:21
sidmanso if I install it now will I be able to connect to the intenet when I get up and runing?01:21
hunkyspunkycan anyone please help me ?01:21
redcardWhat I'm wanting to do is undo all the holds.  Is there a way in aptitude to see all the holds and clear them out?01:21
hondjehot_wheelz: what's your idea?01:22
MrRiohunkyspunky, just pm'd you01:22
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hunkyspunkyok sorry did see01:22
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hot_wheelzyes likewhoa54 as u know u do andate from the patches they are single threaded wouldn't it cool if they were multi threaded that means if you did an update it would be done quick what do u guys think?01:22
redcardAnyone?  I'm just wanting to remove all the hold backs..01:22
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thoreauputicSEN-5421: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25109/  <-- 2.6.27 for 386 config file01:23
jerrcshi. I'm having a passwd problem: http://pastebin.ca/18544501:23
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SEN-5421thoreauputic, thx alot!01:23
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sidmancan I connect to the network after I install ubuntu01:23
thoreauputicSEN-5421: that's from /boot/config-2.6.15-27-38601:24
hunkyspunkyMrRio, please check ur pm when u get a chance01:24
hondjehot_wheelz: would be nice, I hear there's a decent reason they haven't done that yet but I cant' tell you waht it is offhand01:24
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thoreauputicSEN-5421: hope it pasted OK - I have torrents running and it was kind of slow....01:24
BennedettoLunar_Lamp: thanks, now ive just got to find one for cheap :P01:24
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MrRiohunkyspunky, i can't see one01:24
kitchejerrcs did you install pam?01:24
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jerrcskitche: why?01:24
Lunar_LampBennedetto  hehe, wel, you can#t have mine :-p01:24
SEN-5421thoreauputic, looks fine, thx01:24
jerrcsoh and whats odd is, i can passwd as root..01:24
thoreauputicSEN-5421: yw :)01:25
kitchejerrcs: it just seems like a pam issue with the user permissions01:25
jpiccolo_ anyone know why ftp transfers across a network would go really slow?01:25
jerrcskitche: know how to fix it? :(01:25
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hunkyspunkyyou guys think ubuntu would be better then widnows ?01:26
lupine_85depends01:26
lupine_85windows is better for playing the latest games01:26
hunkyspunkyi'm running vista now.. seems its ok.. but thinking about permanetkly switching to ubuntu01:26
Sidman_feelsignocan I CONNECT TO THE INTERNET AFTER I INSTALL ubunTu01:26
lupine_85linux is bettr for most everything01:26
hunkyspunkybut don't know what i get for software01:26
redcardUgh.01:26
lupine_85....else01:26
hunkyspunkyok01:26
thoreauputicSidman_feelsigno: yes, and don't yell, thanks01:26
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kitchejerrcs oh wait you have to do sudo passwd unless you did it as root01:26
hunkyspunkyshould i chose mac or linux ?01:26
MrRioSidman_feelsigno: yes you can01:26
MrRiohunkyspunky, linux01:26
lupine_85hunkyspunky: packages.ubuntu.com (IIRC)01:26
wantedhi, how i read with totem the file in the samba directory(of other pc)?01:27
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thoreauputichunkyspunky: strange question to ask in a linux channel01:27
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Sidman_feelsignoI hope it recongizes all my drives?01:27
lupine_85it will tell you all the packages available to you in a single command01:27
godtviskenwhich hdd does (hd1,0) mean in grub?01:27
hunkyspunkysorry01:27
hunkyspunkyjust really curious01:27
lupine_85godtvisken: hdb101:27
hunkyspunkyand like for games,  wil like need for speed run.. and will my nvidia video card run ?01:27
godtviskenlupine_85: thanks01:27
lupine_85Mac OS X is based on *nix anyway, so tehre are some similarities01:27
thoreauputic!nvidia01:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:28
hunkyspunkyok thanks01:28
lupine_85as for games... some Windows games will run under Wine/Cedega01:28
jerrcskitche: ummm. nobody on my box can change passwords.. thats the problem01:28
redcardDarn.  Seriously, does anyone have a way to keep files from being "held back" by apt-get?01:28
hot_wheelzwhile  i'm here i do have one question for you guys is it posible todo a net install with ubuntu?01:28
lupine_853D graphics are supported on nvidia cards01:28
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lupine_85redcard: dist-upgrade ?01:28
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kitchejerrcs not even root?01:28
lupine_85if that doesn't work, specify the package in install01:28
jerrcskitche: root can, nobody else can.01:28
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thoreauputic!netinstall01:29
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues01:29
redcardlupine_85: Nope.01:29
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redcardlupine_85: I followed EdgyUpdate to get here.01:29
kitchejerrcs well you have to sudo passwd <user> to change that user password01:29
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jerrcskitche: well how come the user cant change his/her password his/her-self?01:29
jerrcsthats the problem01:29
lupine_85some python ones have been held back01:29
lupine_85that's because edgy default is python 2.5 IIRC01:29
redcardlupine_85: Yes, but this is X.01:30
redcardI mean, all of X is held back.01:30
lupine_85cor01:30
lupine_85that's not right01:30
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thoreauputicjerrcs: they should be able to by just typing passwd01:30
lupine_85is ubuntu-desktop installed?01:30
jerrcskitche: im not stupid here. i know i cant change other passwords without being root01:30
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TrevorTcould someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?01:30
TrevorTcould someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?01:30
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jerrcsthoreauputic: they get: http://pastebin.ca/18544501:30
redcardNope.01:30
redcardBut now it will be ;)01:30
lupine_85that should fix it01:30
thoreauputicjerrcs: looking01:30
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redcardlupine_85: Apparently sometimes if you remove a package.. it pulls ubuntu-desktop.01:30
lupine_85of course, if you've got kubuntu, then kubuntu-deskop01:30
lupine_85yes01:31
hot_wheelzThanks01:31
redcardWell, if you don't have that, it breaks the Dapper -> Edgy upgrade.01:31
lupine_85ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on what canonical consider to be essential01:31
kitchejerrcs: it's how ubuntu set's up permissions01:31
lupine_85they assume you have it during the upgrade procedure - it makes life easier for them01:31
jerrcskitche: no its not. its a problem on my system.01:31
redcardlupine_85: Yes.  But not having it kills the upgrade in beta.01:31
lupine_85less transitional packages to worry about, etc01:31
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jerrcskitche: a NORMAL user cannot change his or her own password01:31
squeeI'm running the gameserver / webserver for a lan party.  what do I have to do to make it so when they go to uatlan.com, it takes them to my webserver?  I know it's something with bind...01:31
jerrcsthats the problem01:31
PFAcan someone help me resize my partitions?01:31
thoreauputicjerrcs: haven't seen that one01:31
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jerrcsyou cannot tell me thats how ubuntu will be, nobody can change their passwords anymore01:32
bruenigPFA, gparted01:32
TrevorTcould someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?01:32
TrevorTreally should be taken out of the package tree ...01:32
lupine_85jerrcs: wrong01:32
redcardlupine_85: I'll see if this works, then I'll hang out on launchpad and make certain this gets communicated.01:32
PFAbruenig: i tried it, it doesnt work :/01:32
lupine_85I just tried it01:32
TrevorTor someone should put a hold on working on edgy until you have a *working* stable release of dapper...01:32
jerrcslupine_85: thats the problem im having.01:32
thoreauputicjerrcs: looks like something is wrong with pam perhaops - just guessing though01:32
jerrcsthoreauputic: well i know nothing of pam.. so bah ;(01:32
lupine_85presumably something has wrong permissions then01:32
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jerrcslupine_85: well, like what? i can check01:32
bruenigPFA, make sure you aren't resizing it to small01:32
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thoreauputicjerrcs: unfortunately neither do I - i suggest you post to the ubuntu-users mailing list01:33
TrevorTjust in case nobody heard me the past 5 times01:33
TrevorTcould someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?01:33
PFAbruenig: nope, it has 11GB currently w 7GB used and i want to put it to 9GB01:33
TrevorTcould someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?01:33
squeetrevort: it works for some cards I believe ( not mine..)01:33
thoreauputicjerrcs: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users01:33
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thoreauputicTrevorT: stop repeating01:33
TrevorTthat's absurd, what's the point?01:33
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thoreauputicTrevorT: if someone knows they will help01:34
TrevorTthoreauputic: stop the scrolling01:34
lupine_85jerrcs: start at the top and work your way down01:34
bruenigTrevorT, we are not developers01:34
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lupine_85permissions of /usr/bin/passwd ?01:34
thoreauputicTrevorT: attitude01:34
bruenignor do we maintain the repos01:34
lupine_85should be -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root      27840 2006-07-11 16:11 passwd01:34
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bruenig!patience01:34
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:34
TrevorTthen what are you? why do you exist??01:34
squeethoreauputic trevort: Its known that it doesn't work for anything higher than I think 9800.  I have an x700 and it always crashes on the default install01:34
LjLTrevorT: to give voluntary support?01:34
bruenig<ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers01:34
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kitchejerrcs did I say it was a pam issue before? but usually if pam is messed up it will be hard to get it working like it should be01:34
TrevorTthoreauputic: you have a misinterpretation of attitude problem :)01:34
thoreauputicoops01:34
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jerrcslupine_85: how am i supposed to know what is correct though?01:35
TrevorTbut towards what end? you're supporting something that isn't even stable.. and hasn't been for some time now01:35
thoreauputicTrevorT: well OK - just take it easy01:35
thissuckshardlyyo01:35
lupine_85I have a working one here01:35
bruenigif you wanted to ask, how do I revert what happened when I was retarded and installed a useless package, then perhaps we could have done that. But as to why those in power do what they do, we cannot help there.01:35
lupine_85so I can point out any possible errors to you01:35
TrevorTthoreauputic: you seem to have my disposition confused with someone who is mad..01:35
LjLTrevorT: are you just being a troll? if so, just go away...01:35
thoreauputicTrevorT: you are starting to sound trollish01:35
TrevorTI'm just irritated at the situation :)01:35
jerrcslupine_85: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27840 2006-07-11 11:11 /usr/bin/passwd01:35
lupine_85there's your problem01:36
TrevorTthoreauputic: you're very presumptious01:36
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lupine_85it should be -rwsr-xr-x01:36
thoreauputicsorry but that's enough01:36
heathslol01:36
jerrcslupine_85: oh. shoot... well, how do I change?01:36
lupine_85now, I have no idea what that s stands for. suid?01:36
LjLTrevorT, we're supporting ubuntu because we like it, wether it's stable or not, and would like people to use it and be happy with it. on the other hand, nobody's *forcing* us to help anybody, nor is anybody *paying* us. if we know, and we're looking, and feel like, we answer, otherwise we don't.01:36
thoreauputicTrevorT: I'll remove it in a few minutes01:36
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heathsi was to: wtb oper01:36
LjLTrevorT: if you don't like that, well, buy paid support! that's what those companies exist for...01:36
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Homerhello01:37
squeedoes anyone in here know how to use bind?01:37
lupine_85 can anyone else enlighten me and jerrcs ?01:37
jerrcssquee: i do01:37
Homerwhat is a scandisk like app for ubuntu?01:37
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lupine_85fsck01:37
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jerrcsfsck, homer.01:37
Homergui01:37
thissuckshardlyyo yo01:37
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picochuhey guys is SLI disabled with AIGLX?01:37
lupine_85...01:37
jerrcsgnome-terminal then fsck01:37
jerrcs:>01:37
picochuthis is what i get01:37
squeejerrcs: I'm trying to set up a dns for a lan party, what do I have to do?  You dont have to get specific I just need a push in the right direction01:37
picochu(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SLI" "auto"01:37
picochu(**) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI auto-select rendering option.01:37
picochu(WW) NVIDIA(0): DamageEvents are not currently compatible with SLI.  Disabling01:37
picochu(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI enabled.01:37
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irielionhey does anyone know how to monitor the ports that are in use by the system?01:37
lupine_85jerrcs: I'm going to assume it's suid, but that could be wrong01:38
squeejerrcs: info bind & man bind dont give any real info to me01:38
testerthissuckshardly: sup nigga01:38
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picochuirielion:  try netstat -nap01:38
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lupine_85either way, you could try (as root) chmod rwsrxrx file01:38
kitchelupine_85: the s means sticky I believe in permissions01:38
bruenig!language > tester01:38
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thissuckshardlytester yo, i`m going to kick some ass , wanna come ?01:38
ziro01hi01:38
LjL!ops01:38
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!01:38
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HomerWARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause01:38
HomerSEVERE filesystem damage.01:38
lupine_85kitche: any idea how to set it using chmod?  :)01:38
lupine_85Homer: yep01:38
jiShduh01:38
Homeruh01:38
LjLops: thissuckshardly, tester01:39
jiShunmount it.01:39
thoreauputicLjL: ?01:39
jerrcssquee: i see. well, http://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/ maybe?01:39
lupine_85it's going to be / ...01:39
jiShumount /dev/whatever01:39
Homerif I unmount it01:39
thissuckshardlywtf means Ops ?01:39
LjLthoreauputic: exchange between tester and thissuckshardly01:39
irielioncuz lighttpd seems only to work locally01:39
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Homercan I still be on IRC01:39
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irielionand nobody is blocking my ports01:39
Homerand have an unmounted HDD?01:39
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mipstienim having a problem and i can't seem to get help on the forums :(. . . e2fsck runs on bootup and finds errors and cannot continue, i use the live cd and run it and it finds and fixes errors every single time i restart and go back into live cd. the problem isnt' goin away01:39
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jiShHomer: if you boot from a livecd01:39
lupine_85Homer: if it needs checking, it'll do it on startup01:39
heathssquee: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3956/ pretty decent with some walk throughs01:39
lupine_85this isn't Windows01:39
sopidohi is there a howto for (dist-)upgrading dapper to edgy beta? like common pitfalls?01:39
btdownI'd like to change one of my runlevels to boot into text mode. I unlinked gdm and usplash..anything else I need to do?01:40
kothzHrm.  Dapper + 802.11b BCM4304 wireless card.  Do I have a hope without the (sacrilege of using) ndiswrapper/windows driver combos?01:40
lupine_85(or Tiw, the sky god ;) )01:40
squeeheaths & jerrcs:  Thanks, i'll look into those both01:40
Amaranthsopido: Pain, much pain.01:40
lupine_85!upgrade01:40
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:40
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kitchelupine_85: I do but can't really look it up since I m in class right now01:40
Homerlupine_85: my bios said SERVE HARD DISK DAMAGE! BACKUP AND REPLACE HARD DRIVE! PRESS F1 TO CONTINUE.01:40
sopidoAmaranth, i can stand pain :)01:40
lupine_85kothz: there is a native driver for that01:40
LjL!caps01:40
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:40
Homerit said it in caps01:40
Homerheh01:40
lupine_85you need firmware for your card01:40
lupine_85!bcm43xx01:40
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:40
LjLHomer: ;-)01:40
AmaranthHomer: Time to get a new HD.01:41
Homerso01:41
kothzthanks wulfy. :)01:41
thissuckshardlythoreauputic: i`m gonna kick your ass boy ! dont do this again01:41
Homerno01:41
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LjLHomer: i dunno, but that sounds like SMART talking01:41
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Homerbut  I think it may be wrong01:41
sopidohmm the wiki is utterly slow atm :(01:41
Homeryeah01:41
AmaranthHomer: You have to run fsck from a LiveCD01:41
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HomerLjL: it's S.M.A.R.T01:41
Homerwhat is smart do01:41
LjLHomer: do you have SMART enabled on your BIOS? if so, and it's actually a SMART warning, well, it's extremely serious01:41
kitchelupine_85 should be chmod -s though to get rid of the sticky01:41
lupine_85go there and find the bcm43xx driver. there's also a ubuntuforums topic01:41
ziro01no01:41
AmaranthSMART asks the HD if it's failing01:41
jerrcslupine_85:times like these i wish i could just chmod -rwsr-xr-x it01:41
lupine_85but we want the sticky...01:41
Homerwell01:41
LjLHomer: yeah, SMART, S.M.A.R.T., whatever... anyway, it checks wether your HD is failing01:41
Homerhow come my HDD seems to work01:41
lupine_85if smart says the hard drive is dying, it's on the way out01:42
LjLHomer: and when it says it's failing, it's usually failing (usually it's *already* failed, actually)01:42
lupine_85get a backup01:42
HomerI should run fsck to see what it finds out01:42
AmaranthHomer: I'm willing to bet if you run fsck on it it'll kill the disk.01:42
kothzMy experience with SMART is that the warning comes as the drive is on the way out the door :)01:42
HomerI just bought the fu*king thing 30 days ago01:42
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AmaranthHomer: Take it back.01:42
LjLHomer: happens with new drives...01:42
lupine_85then you should have RTB01:42
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Homerok01:42
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Homerno WD01:42
Amaranthheh01:42
lupine_85...from ebay?01:42
Amaranthworse01:42
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LjLHomer: take it back, they'll know from the SMART parameters that you didn't break it. and if they still claim you did, then tell them you know they can check that you didn't01:43
Homerwhy do hard drives not work01:43
kitchelupine_85: but jerrcs should look at /etc/passwd and the /etc/shadow file to make sure their perms are right01:43
Homerwith me01:43
lupine_85indeed01:43
jerrcskitche: they are.01:43
lupine_85that was next :)01:43
Homerthis is the second hard drive in 2 years01:43
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jerrcs-rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root   3327 2006-09-28 19:39 /etc/passwd01:43
jerrcs-rw-r----- 1 root   shadow 3110 2006-09-28 19:39 /etc/shadow01:43
LjLHomer: modern hard drives can be sort of temperamental01:43
orphennuihello01:43
lupine_85Homer: they're discs of glass covered in magnetic dust spinning at 7200rpm01:44
lupine_85they're bound to be a bit fragile01:44
zenwhen-lttru01:44
AmaranthHomer: You try spinning a 1/2 pound piece of metal at 7500 rpm and floating a rod 1cm above it without having something go wrong :P01:44
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LjL1cm?01:44
mipstiensmaller than a cM01:44
mipstiencm*01:44
AmaranthLjL: Probably less01:44
FlaX!evms01:44
AmaranthJust a random toss01:44
kitchejerrcs: well if they are then it's probably a pam issue I usually do a reinstall to fix pam since it's a pain to fix01:44
ubotuevms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is standard. Version 2.5.4-5ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 82 kB, installed size 292 kB01:44
HomerI think it's because I mounted the HDD in my laptop without a ba01:44
orphennuisomeone is reporting that Gimmie is not working with Ubuntu for some reason, and was told in here that it needs some fixing.  Can anyone point me to a bug about this, or explain it a little?01:44
Homerbay01:44
Homerso it's flopping around01:44
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jerrcskitche: reinstalling is not an option, sorry...01:44
lupine_85heh01:44
lupine_85that's not good for it, no...01:45
AmaranthHomer: Oh man01:45
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zenwhen-lthey Amaranth; have you configured your ubuntu install so that you dont have to type your keyring pass each time you get into gnome for network manager?01:45
AmaranthHomer: Moving a HD at all while it's reading/writing can be fatal01:45
LjLwikipedia:  The hard disk's read-write heads fly on an air bearing which is a cushion of air only nanometers above the disk surface.01:45
Amaranthzenwhen-lt: I did once, it broke in edgy01:45
zenwhen-ltits pretty sweet01:45
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zenwhen-ltI hate authenticating twice01:45
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kitchejerrcs: well probably have to start reading about pam then since most people don't like messing with it01:45
HomerAmaranth: that is suprising on a laptop hdd01:45
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mipstienare there any other programs or commands besides e2fsck or fsck that can help fix errors?01:46
new2linxdoes anyone know how to help me with LFTP?01:46
AmaranthHomer: It shouldn't be moving a lot while it's on :P01:46
AmaranthJust on your lap/a desk01:46
jerrcskitche: i have alot of important data that needs to be up 24/7 on my home box, including shells, irc, dns, etc01:46
Amaranthbut without the mount point it's bound to bounce around in there01:46
new2linxanyone, lftp?01:46
thedashso, Ubuntu's SATA controller is not so good?01:46
zenwhen-ltyeah I dont bounce my laptop around a lot when i am using it01:47
heathsmipstien: fsck isn't fixing the errors?01:47
anonobombernew2linx: what about lftp?01:47
mipstienno01:47
Homerwell broke the HDD bay01:47
mipstienheaths: no01:47
HomerI broke it01:47
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new2linxanonobomber, i can't seem to connect to my xbox?01:47
AmaranthHomer: Time to get a new one. :)01:47
Homerand my laptop manufacturer doesn't want to send me a new one01:47
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Homerit's properitary(tm)01:47
zenwhen-ltHomer, ebay01:47
Homerhmm01:47
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zenwhen-ltitll be like ten buck01:48
anonobombernew2linx: you sure you're using the right ip address and you have to modify your xbox to get ftp to it working01:48
AmaranthHomer: You'll have to pay them money for something you broke while doing user servicing.01:48
zenwhen-lts01:48
kitchejerrcs yes I know so start reading about pam01:48
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eBs|Jackhas anyone ever successfully booted and installed with a usbstick01:48
jerrcskitche: infact, it wasnt that. a simple chmod +s /usr/bin/passwd fixed it.01:48
new2linxi am typing in lftp, then open -u xbox,xbox 192.168.0.201:48
mipstienheaths: it says that it fixed them and i can rerun it immediatly and it doesn't find anymore errors, but after i reboot outa my live cd and restart my root install it says there are more errors01:48
Homerok well I'm going to run fsck on this shit01:48
jerrcslol01:48
AmarantheBs|Jack: Only a minimal install.01:48
lupine_85get a backup first01:48
Homerthere is nothing to backup01:48
lupine_85seriously get a backup01:48
new2linxanonobomber, yes, in know that. I can ftp into it with gftp just fine. so why can'rt lftp workl?01:48
AmarantheBs|Jack: No X, no GNOME, just a terminal, a text editor, and apt-get01:48
Homerjust an almost stock linux install01:49
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new2linxanonobomber, gftp sucks, it keeps connecting fine, showing me the folders but as soon as I try to transfer anything it says it can't connect to port 421 or some shit!01:49
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eBs|JackAmaranth: can you assist me via Private messages?01:49
anonobombernew2linx: have you tried konqueror?01:49
AmarantheBs|Jack: I've never done it01:49
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bamibk3b error Failed to change write speed: 5540->11080 anyone know how to fix?01:49
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AmarantheBs|Jack: I've just heard people talking about doing it.01:50
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Amaranth!usbstick01:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usbstick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:50
Amaranth!usb01:50
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:50
Homerthe last time my HDD died I got no warning01:50
Amaranthgrr01:50
thoreauputicnew2linx: try "Connect to server" - nautilus does ftp too01:50
kothz!bcm43xx01:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:50
Homeris that normal?01:50
new2linxdon't want to install kde on gnome, how much crap will it bring with it if I do?01:50
bamibbecause nobody knows crap in #kubuntu01:50
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Amaranthbamib: Sounds like cdrecord doesn't like you.01:50
anonobombernew2linx: read the lftp tutorial on the lftp website01:51
new2linxthoreauputic, oh yeah. by the way. i found an awesome python built program that extracted my iso into a folder01:51
Amaranthbamib: It's a very vague problem.01:51
bamibit's when i burn an dvd iso01:51
mipstiendoes anyone know of another disk checker besides e2fsck or fsck?01:51
new2linxanonobomber, i am typing in exactly what that site says to?01:51
kothzhomer: hard drives fail all the time.  if you get past the first couple months with a new HD, enjoy it for a while, but the natural state of all drives is, well, dead. :)01:51
thoreauputicnew2linx: oh that's good - what is it called?01:51
thedashUbuntu's SATA controller is not so good?01:51
Amaranthbamib: Use nautilus01:51
bamibit will always burn cd isos01:51
lupine_85Quantum Fireballs rocked01:51
Amaranthlupine_85: Seagate > *01:51
lupine_85I had two, and they both lasted 7 years +01:51
bamibI have but it would do anything01:51
lupine_85Quantum > *01:51
thedashI have a Seagate, and I have problems01:52
bamiband thank you Amaranth for helping me out01:52
lupine_85Quantum got bought out by <someone> though :(01:52
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new2linxthoreauputic, gxiso. it also has an option to ftp the contents right to the xbox but it said it could'nt create the folder? so I am trying to ftp the contents mysekf01:52
Amaranthlupine_85: I once had a seagate get frozen in a solid block of ice, thaw out, and work.01:52
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thedashI have a Seagate now, and it doesn't work!01:52
Amaranthlupine_85: Of course it failed about a day after I made a backup of it's contents.01:52
kothzyeah, maxtor bought quantum.01:52
thedashstoopid Ubuntu SATA controllers01:52
heathsthedash: try freezing it in a block of ice01:52
lupine_85once I fed my fireball through a shark and it came out the other end untouched01:52
bamiboh and by the way i'm using kubuntu so i think that might also be the prob.01:53
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Amaranthlupine_85: haha01:53
bamibsome way some how01:53
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lupine_85pus it's such a cool name01:53
lupine_85plus*01:53
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thoreauputicnew2linx: If you are "new to linux" I think lftp has too steep a learning curve - I would try  nautilus first as I said01:53
stu_can I get my system to re-process fstab?01:53
lupine_85I don't know what maxtor did with that expertise01:53
Amaranthbamib: Well, almost everyone here uses Ubuntu so you're not likely to find someone who knows your software.01:53
stu_added a mount, wanna test it01:53
kothzstu: mount -a01:53
bruenigstu_, sudo mount -a01:53
stu_ta01:53
bamibindeed not01:53
bruenigor maybe no mount01:53
bruenigor maybe no sudo*01:54
Amaranthbamib: If you switch to Ubuntu we might be able to help. ;)01:54
kothzsigh.  I keep forgetting the sudo... you're probably right depending on the mount options01:54
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bamibI was using it, but then it started to screw up01:54
mipstienif e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?01:54
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stu_smb connection failed, wheres the log?01:54
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Buglouseis Nautilus the most popular file browser?  What are some other popular ones? and does anyone know of some File Managers? (Ubuntu Drapper)01:55
bamiblike the destop and the toolbar has blury and stuff would stay on there that wasn't running01:55
kothztry mounting it manually first, stu ... get the mount options ironed out then stick it in your fstab01:55
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lupine_85Amaranth: he got banned from #kubuntu :)01:55
EvanIsaachey guys, i just started using linux and i'm trying to get my W111T netgear USB adapter to work using ndiswrapper01:55
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EvanIsaachere is the information that i think will be important01:55
EvanIsaacCard: NETGEAR WG111T01:55
EvanIsaac    * Chipset: Atheros USB01:55
EvanIsaac    * encryption: WPA-PSK (TKIP)01:55
EvanIsaac    * usbid: 1385:425001:55
EvanIsaac    * Driver: Netgear windows driver Version: 21/06/2005, 1.2 from http://www.netgear.de/download/WG111T/WG111T_GRV1.2.zip01:55
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LjL!paste01:55
EvanIsaac    * Other: This driver comes with two sets of .inf and .sys files: athfmwdl and wg111t. Both of these must be installed with their *.inf files. After that, with version 1.7rc1, ndiswrapper can be used as in the case of other drivers; earlier versions of ndiswrapper required load_fw_ar5523 program to be run, but it is not needed anymore. Suspend/resume also works now.01:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:55
HomerBuglouse: stick with Nautilus imo :)01:55
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BuglouseHomer: what can I use for a mass file renamer?01:56
Homerbash script I guess01:56
bruenigBuglouse, you can use the terminal01:56
EvanIsaaccould somebody please walk me through doing this? I don't know a thing01:56
LjLBuglouse: "rename" possibly01:56
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kitcheEvanIsaac: use madwifi instead might be easier01:56
mipstienif e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?01:56
EvanIsaacmadwifi?01:56
lupine_85kitche: I don't think the madwifi drivers support usb :(01:56
new2linxthoreauputic, it says I don't have permission to view the contents. and yes, I entered the correct password and username?01:56
EvanIsaacaw man01:56
AmarantheBs|Jack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick01:57
EvanIsaacwell do you guys have any idea what the stuff i posted means?01:57
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SeanTaterDoes anyone have a wireless G card that works easily with Linux, something you'd recommend?01:57
LjLBuglouse: i can't find the package it's in, though... perhaps it's there by default01:57
LjL(weird)01:57
lupine_85there is ath_pci.ko but not ath_isb.ko01:57
stu_can anyone tell me how to make my middle button act a scroll toggle? like in windows?01:57
lupine_85SeanTater: anything ralink01:57
thoreauputicnew2linx: "it" meaning what?01:57
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thoreauputicnew2linx: and what direcory ?01:57
lupine_85Particularly rt2500 and rt257001:57
PoPpiLLsI have Breezy installed as a server if I upgrade it to dapper will i have alot of problems ?01:57
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pwkHello01:58
thoreauputicnew2linx: directory *01:58
lupine_85although rt61 and rt73 are supppported in edgy OOTB01:58
lupine_85anything Atheros PCI is also good, as are ZyDAS cards01:58
EvanIsaacany volunteers willing to help me using ndiswrapper?01:58
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mipstienif e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?01:58
lupine_85panic?01:59
mipstiensounds good01:59
pwkcan anybody tell me where i can find a list of what software works in ubuntu.. like in wine ?01:59
mipstien*throws arms up and screams*01:59
lupine_85EvanIsaac: it's pretty easy. there are walkthroughs on the wiki and forums01:59
lupine_85!wifi01:59
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:59
bruenigpwk, one the wine site01:59
new2linxthoreauputic, nautilus01:59
mipstienwww.winehq.com01:59
lupine_85now /me must get in the bath01:59
EvanIsaacwell i checked the ndiswrapper wiki and didn't understand a thing01:59
mipstienappdb.winehq.com to be more precise01:59
pwkwill it take less resources then windows,, and will i need av ?01:59
kothzmipstien: how important was the data on the drive that failed?01:59
thoreauputicnew2linx: what is it telling you you don't have permission to access?02:00
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mipstienkothz: its not that the data is important, cause i have now backed it up, but that i don't wanna have to reconfigure everything... some important stuff but its fixxed.02:00
Homerso when is edgy eft coming out?02:00
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LjL!edgy02:00
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:00
mipstienbeta was released today02:00
bruenigoctober 26 I think02:00
kintaro0ehi guys..how to update the cached records of the bind servers.for example: foo.com[which is from the internet]  change its ip. but the previous ip of the foo.com is cached in my dns server. how to update it to reflect the correct ip?02:00
PoPpiLLsany body got a good backup solution to reccomend im using mondorescue now02:01
bruenig!backup02:01
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi02:01
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LjLkintaro0e: your DNS server is usually at the ISP side, and you can't do anything to update it... DNS entries usually get refreshed every 2 days02:01
PoPpiLLsi want to backup my server before i update it to dapper02:01
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mipstienAnother thing... Anybody know if you backup all your files on a drive and copy them into a fresh install should it keep everything intact like before it was copied02:01
new2linxthoreauputic, the ftp server02:01
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stu_why has that question been ingored all day, someone must the middle button as a scroll toggle??02:02
Neo8750LjL: there no way to update it manually?02:02
kintaro0eLjL: i have my own internal dns server02:02
Homersomone invent a cheap solid state technology that doesn't have the rate of failure of HDDs02:02
levanderHas anyone gotten subversion to work with emacs' vc mode?02:02
Homerplease :)02:02
bruenigmipstien, in theory02:02
levanderunder ubuntu02:02
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bruenigthat is what one of those backups tells you to do, the first link I believe02:02
levanderIt seems vc-svn.el isn't available in any package.02:02
mipstienbruenig: i can post the command i used to copy if that would help you decide02:02
DiegoAsians in your basement, of course.02:02
PoPpiLLsso breezy to dapper should be a piece of cake ?02:02
thoreauputicnew2linx: did you specify a port? is the server running? Usually a refusal means the server is not running or firewalled etc02:02
Max_-Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... something is missing, what is it??02:02
czer323ANyone else having extremely long timeouts for archive.ubuntu.com?02:02
bruenigmipstein, this here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem02:02
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EvanIsaacthere isn't an FAQ for my adapter02:02
mipstienyeh that is what i used02:03
rendihelp my apache don't wanna start02:03
LjLNeo8750, kintaro0e: yes, you can update it manually, *if* you have access to the server... if you have your own, well, it depends on which server software you're using... but what about just restarting it?  like in "sudo /etc/init.d/mydnsserver-whateveritis restart"02:03
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bruenigwell if it says it does and is on there without much complaint, it can be assumed that it works02:03
rendihgelloo02:03
rendihelp my apache don't wanna start02:03
jribrendi: how did you install it?02:03
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new2linxthoreauputic, the server is running, i can log into it using gftp. i just can;t transfer anythign cause gftp sucks my asshole.02:03
stu_rendi: do you think this is a psychic channell?02:03
Neo8750LjL: the reason i asked was because i figured a simple cron job could do the updates[02:03
kothzi'm going to procrastinate making this bcm43xx card work natively by making popcorn. :)02:04
Neo8750but if it wasn't [possible to do manually i was just going to stay quiet and smile02:04
mipstienbruenig: my only concern was that it would not readd my panels correctly and my themes02:04
thoreauputicnew2linx: watch the language or you will be out of here in a flash02:04
thoreauputic!language02:04
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:04
kintaro0eLjL: yes..i have access on my server..because this is a master server for my internal[network] . so how to update the cached records?02:04
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bruenigmipstien, those panels and themes are in those files somewhere02:04
kintaro0ewithout restarting it02:04
Homerhow can my HDD be in the verge of destruction and still transfer gigabytes of data02:04
kintaro0e?02:04
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shad0w1ehow do I add a username (for a process) that cant actually log into the machine?02:04
kothzflash doesn't work well.  Any disappearance probably won't have any sound :)02:04
bruenigeverything is dictated by a file02:04
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LjLNeo8750: well, i don't think a cron job would be necessary, because usually the server software itself updates the records every once in a while... which, normally, is 2 days, but i suppose that can be changed in most software02:04
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gnomefreakthoreauputic: ty for reminding me i have to install flash :)02:04
thoreauputicgnomefreak: heh02:05
kothzHomer: ever heard of the phrase 'going nowhere fast'? :)02:05
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LjLkintaro0e, it depends on which server you're using. i'm using a simple server called dnsmasq, and to clear the cache i only need to restart it... if you're using bind9, or something else, i wouldn't know the specifics02:05
mipstienbruenig: i copied everything except dev, media, proc, lost+found, mnt, and sys02:05
Neo8750LjL: i was going off he read all the config files and such and has no way to do that (yeah it was dumb but i like to belive everyone rtfm)02:06
bruenigmipstien, ok, well looks good. that is what it tells you to do02:06
kintaro0eLjL: ah..i see.use bind902:06
Dekkardcan one really add mp3 support to edgy?02:06
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Dekkardive installed every lib i can think of02:06
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:06
mipstienbruenig: that would still keep all my config files intact, i was worried about proc, and sys02:07
LjLkintaro0e: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.protocols.dns.bind/browse_thread/thread/a2a820843e074eb2/62d8a755643007de?lnk=st&q=bind9+manually+update+records&rnum=4&hl=en#62d8a755643007de02:07
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new2linxthoreauputic,  are you serious?02:07
bruenigproc and sys are created on boot up and don't hold anything of "real use" if I may say that02:07
thoreauputicnew2linx: we have a Code of Conduct02:07
mipstienok thank you, i just didn't wanna have any real problems :)02:07
thoreauputic!CoC02:07
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:07
mipstienbruenig one last question02:07
GobbiOl02:07
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:07
kintaro0eLjL: thanks02:08
czer323Can someone confirm that archive.ubuntu.com is down or not responding?  apt-get and ping are both timing out for me.02:08
LjLczer323: it pings for me02:08
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thoreauputicnew2linx: some people are more easily offended than others - this channel is international and multicutural02:08
mipstienbruenig: if i format my drive through a live cd and resize it and then copy the files over, technically all i should have to do it mkdir those directories and i shoudl be able to reboot into  it no problem's? in theory02:08
jribczer323: works fine here as well02:08
LjLczer323: resolves to 195.248.90.2302:08
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^DownWhen I play DVD's they skip really bad, is there a way to stop this?02:08
pwki see wine works with alot of prgrams02:08
bruenigczer323, when i go to http://archive.ubuntu.com/, I get a tree02:08
^DownSomeone told me how before, but I can't remember the command line02:09
new2linxthoreauputic,  ok-dowk02:09
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pwkbut, dwhats its security like, and system responsiveness ?02:09
vince790hello all02:09
LjLpwk: it's not magic, that's for sure. but it does allow running a good deal of Windows programs without actually having Windows02:09
new2linxthoreauputic,  oops, i meant to write okee  dokee but I had a brain fart02:09
bruenigmispstien yep, should all work. There would be no difference between what you have now and what you had then. Because all of what is seen or represented or whatever on your computer is dictated by those files. Identical files create identical system02:09
jrib^Down: have you enabled dma?02:09
vince790was wondering if anyone has been able to install ubuntu on an ibm 380d02:09
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^DownI don't really know02:09
czer323thanks jrib, LjL, ^Down>  Unfortunately it's still not working for me.  I'll cycle power to the network and try again.  Thanks again guys.02:09
mipstienpwk: i play quite a lot of windows games through wine and have used it for many other windows applications02:10
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thoreauputicnew2linx: umm... you just had another one - i suggesttaking the foot out of your mouth02:10
LjLpwk: when talking about security, one must always be cautious... but the common knowledge is that very few viruses or other malicious stuff has a real chance to do any harm through wine02:10
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jribubotu: tell ^Down about dma02:10
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mipstienbruenig, thank you so much, if i coudl hug you i would :P02:10
new2linxthoreauputic, dude!!! I am sorry but FART is NOT  a swear!!!!!02:10
LjLpwk: performance can be even better than native Windows sometimes. although there is no decent 3D support yet, if that's what you're thinking about (but you might want to read about Cedega for that)02:10
Max_-Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... something is missing, what is it??02:10
pwkso using wine, its defeating the security purpose >?02:10
brueniggood thing you can't...02:10
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LjLpwk: hm? don't get you02:11
bruenigpwk, why do you want to use wine so much02:11
bruenigwhat programs do you need02:11
thoreauputicnew2linx: arguing with Ops is never a good idea, you know02:11
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mipstienpwk, i am using wine to play world of warcraft and wc3 and other games and i get over 100fps in most games02:11
rubsohey guys, Adobe has released a minor update for Flash 7 on Linux, how can i upgrade my older version?02:11
pwki thoguht u where saying with wine windows viruses can come in02:11
VekemiHow would I find out what kind of modem I'm running so I can download the appropriate drivers for it?02:11
^DownThanks jrib02:11
Neo8750mipstien: you get steam to work/02:11
new2linxi am not arguing with you. i am simply pointing out a FACT.02:11
mipstienneo8750, yes i do02:12
DarkMageZrubso, there's a newer version of the package available in the backports multiverse repo02:12
pwkand my games with my geforce 6800 card will run like windows ?02:12
thoreauputicnew2linx: stop it. My patinece is wearing out02:12
bruenigpwk, I suppose they could corrupt your little windows compatibility layer, but it shouldn't affect any of your linux stuff. At the very worse,  you might have to delete your wine directory02:12
mipstienpwk, yes02:12
thoreauputic*patience02:12
Neo8750mipstien: and you use regular wine and not winex or something right?02:12
rubsok thanks02:12
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mipstienneo8750, yes i use winehq.com02:12
pwkok02:12
new2linxthoreauputic, thank you for trying to help me earlier. Get off your power trip dude.02:12
pwkthxs02:12
vince790max you need libdvdccs02:12
Neo8750mipstien: well because of you i'm restarting an old project02:13
kothzok, reinstalling dapper.  wish me luck with my bcm43xx :)02:13
pwkand if i get this od rpgram thats for windows, it has a chance of running in windows ?02:13
mipstienneo8750, i copied my steam folder from my windows install and made sure i copied also my font files form windows into the wine fonts folder and it works without any trouble02:13
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thoreauputicnew2linx: it isn't a power trip - we have to keep a lid on vulgarity and stuff - as I said, consider the code of conduct02:13
LjLthoreauputic: well, i'll do it anyway. wikipedia says, "The word is generally considered to be mildly offensive and unsuitable for formal settings by modern English speakers, though more conservative locales may consider the word to be vulgar." -- sounds to me like a all-around innocent word :)02:13
thoreauputicLjL: *sigh*02:13
superkirbyartis1I need help.  Authentication works with pon, but internet does not.02:13
mipstienneo8750, only problem i ran into was updating steam from base .exe installer, you have to run a particular command to make it pass up the 27% bug02:14
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thoreauputicLjL: I consider it so - in some countries they don't02:14
Neo8750mipstien: got ya02:14
new2linxcan you please point out to me where I can read the code of conduct and where it states that fart is a swear word. i think you are gong a little over board02:14
Neo8750well i'm off02:14
mipstienill give you the page in a second hold on02:14
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thoreauputicLjL: you notice I haven't banned or kicked anyone over thia02:14
thoreauputic*this02:14
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mipstienneo8750 wait just one moment02:14
Neo-Away?02:14
mipstienill give you the steam page02:14
DarkMageZ!coc02:15
superkirbyartis1Internet problems.  Authentication with pon works, but internet does not.02:15
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ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:15
superkirbyartis1!the ubuntu code of conduct?02:15
mipstienhttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=155402:15
ubotuthe: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB02:15
mipstienneo8750 http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=155402:15
Neo-Awaymipstien: k thanks02:15
mipstiennp02:15
superkirbyartis1!nevermind02:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nevermind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:15
bruenigvulgarity itself is completely arbitrary and has no intrinsic reason for why it is vulgar except that people of a region have decided that it is. Seems hard to impose something like this on a channel that in theory could be hosting people from every country and every culture.02:15
heathsnew2linx: if you aren't contributing  you are detracting....02:15
mipstienbruenig thank you again !02:16
new2linxthoreauputic, thank you. i'll read it over. thanks again for trying to help me earlier02:16
Vekemi:\02:16
thoreauputicGeneral Notice: what you or i consider harmless is seen as rude in some cultures. Please read the Code of Conduct02:16
thoreauputicnew2linx: you're welcome02:16
new2linxheaths02:16
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new2linxheaths your right. I am outta here02:16
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VekemiHow do I find what kind of modem I'm running (on Windows or Ubuntu, doesn't matter) so I can download the appropriate drivers for it? Right now when I sudo wvdialconf /etc/wtvdial.conf, it doesn't show anything.02:17
jribubotu: tell Vekemi about dialup02:18
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AstrayVekemi, In windows press windows key + pause/break and cick hardware then device manager02:18
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pwkcan anybody tell me where i can find a guide to starting to use ubntu.. like the basics ?02:18
rendihello02:18
czer323_Amazing, I can go everywhere on the internet except for archive.ubuntu.com.  And i know other people can reach it, so it's just me.  Very weird.02:18
bruenigpwk, ubuntu or linux02:19
rendii have problem with ubuntu02:19
bruenig?02:19
rendican help02:19
jribpwk: system > help  (or help.ubuntu.com)02:19
Astrayczer323_, Maybe your DNS is having problems ;.;02:19
pwkubntu02:19
rendii'm paste here http://pastebin.ca/18548902:19
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btdownthe beta's out...im sure they are all getting hit hard02:19
gnomefreak!mirrors > czer323_02:19
AstrayIs there a way I can make xchat open links in firefox instead of mozilla?02:19
gnomefreakbtdown: it is02:19
jribAstray: it is in the xchat settings I believe, not sure where02:19
eurytusIs it possible to read/write to ext3 partitions from windows?02:20
bruenigAstray, I wonder the same, mine use to upen in swiftfox but now it opens in opera02:20
Max_-Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... what is missing??02:20
czer323_Astray> if i just goto the main ip: 195.248.90.54, it still doesn't work, therefore... not a dns issue.02:20
rendihello sir02:20
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VekemiAlso, when I update the kernel, it shows the updated kernel as a seperate boot on GRUB. How do I make it so it only shows my most recent updated kernel?02:20
gnomefreakMax_-: the codecs for dvds?02:20
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jribeurytus: http://www.fs-driver.org/02:20
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Astrayooh I found it02:21
Astray;.;02:21
superkirbyartis1I have problems with ppp.02:21
kitcheVekemi: you have to edit menu.lst it's in /boot/grub/02:22
mehighwhere can i find the codex for playing wmv?02:22
jribubotu: tell mehigh about wmv02:22
Max_-gnomefreak, looks like they're missing, yes.. is there a package for it, or something?02:22
vince790Max_- you need to download libdvdccs02:22
gnomefreak!restricted > Max_-02:22
pwkcan i pm someone my specs to check if ubuntu would run fine ?02:22
Max_-vince790,  thanks!!02:22
VekemiAlright, thanks kitche.02:22
gnomefreakMax_-: read your pm from ubotu02:22
vince790no problem max02:22
czer323_gnomefreak> do you know if there are any mirror repositories?  Cause I was just tryign to apt-get upgrade.02:22
shwagim not seeing mod_env in the repositories02:23
gnomefreakczer323_: i just gave you a list of them02:23
gnomefreakMax_-: your gonna need more than just that02:23
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pwkok02:23
pwki'll post here02:23
btdown!upgrading02:24
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:24
VekemiAlso, again (sorry for the huge amounts of questions, I just installed Dapper [my first linux distro]  3 days ago), when I sudo apt-get install kernel-headers, it only gives me a list of kernels that have different numbers than what's shown in /lib/modules02:24
pwkp4 with ht @ 3.4ghz 1gb ram 2x 120gb hard drive nvidia 6800 256mb video card sound blaster 32 bit audio card02:24
VekemiHow do I make it show the kernel drivers in /lib/modules?02:24
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jribpwk: you will run ubuntu fine02:25
pwkwould my pc run ubuntu ?02:25
pwkok02:25
jribmore than fine02:25
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pwki really want to remove windows vista dn switch02:25
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vince790Max_- you also need the win32 codecs02:25
pwkbut application compatiblity is whats shutting me down02:25
vince790sorry bout the delay02:25
lostincIs there a way to archive downloaded synaptic packages to a removable harddrive and then reinstall Ubuntu  and copy those packages back so that I wont have to redownload them?02:26
Max_-vince790, okay...  win32 codecs...   I'm actually trying to install Gxine...02:26
EvanIsaaccan somebody please help me get my Netgear W111T adapter working02:26
gnomefreakpwk: i have a pc with dapper on it its a p2 450mhz 512mb ram nvidia 5200 and a 20 gig hd it runs fine (better than windows ever ran on that pc)02:26
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gnomefreakMax_-: libdvdread02:26
EvanIsaacand please don't link me to a howto, i need more detailed instructions than that02:27
pwkwill ubuntu be hard to leanr?02:27
Telroth_Plushie|pwk, the fact that i can double click an .exe file in linux and have it run without using virtualization isn't compatable enough? :P02:27
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vince790gnomefreak..........is that required for gnome use?02:27
mlowe<<< beta alternative install just worked for me ;) !!02:27
gnomefreakpwk: was windows hard to learn in the 3 years it took you to learn it?02:27
SeanTaterpwk: no02:27
vince790as kde......xine it isnt required02:27
cafuegoEvanIsaac: Check wiki.ubuntu.com; search for WG111T.02:27
gnomefreakvince790: it is required for dvd playing02:27
brueniglostinc, they are probably in /var/cache/apt/archives02:27
EvanIsaacAnd I quote myself by saying, "please don't link me to a howto, i need more detailed instructions than that"02:28
czer323_gnomefreak> thanks for the list.  I had only clicked ont eh first link. ;)  Didn't see the second one til after i asked again.02:28
gnomefreakpwk: if you read and want to learn yes ubuntu is very easy to learn02:28
vince790:S maybe time to switch ubuntus gnome to a kde ;)02:28
SeanTaterpwk: as long as you get past easyubuntu, (multimedia codec installation assistant), it's all downhill from there02:28
gnomefreakvince790: why not use both02:28
Telroth_Plushie|vince790, kubuntu ?02:28
VekemiHow do I download the kernel-headers that match what's in /lib/modules versus the headers that it automatically gives me when I sudo apt-get install kernel-headers02:28
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smaxhi guys02:28
gnomefreakVekemi: what kernel do you have?02:28
shwagwhats the deal with  mod_env ??02:28
bruenigkde, good thing they spent so much time on the bouncing icon when things load because loading is all you get to watch02:29
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pwkso ubnutu would run windows apps.. without wine ?02:29
smaxhas anyone ever deployed a tftp server?  the web is full of shit.02:29
superkirbyartis1PPP problem.02:29
lostincbruenig: if I save that folder and copy it back after the fact will synaptic pick up on it?02:29
shwagdonde02:29
gnomefreakpwk: no02:29
superkirbyartis1Help please.02:29
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SeanTatersmax: !language02:29
gnomefreakpwk: ubuntu has apps that take place of windows apps02:29
VekemiIt says "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386"02:29
rgghey,is there any msn client with "audio conversation" support?02:29
pwkok02:29
pwkanybody here get limewire to run in ubntu?02:29
brueniglostinc, you can just sudo dpkg -i those packages in there02:29
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SeanTatersmax: I'm 99.999998% sure many have done it before02:29
kothzrgg: i think amsn has that?02:29
lostincI see bruenig02:29
rggkothz: i don't think so02:29
EvanIsaaccould somebody please help me get my Netgear W111T USB adapter working, the howto's and FAQ's aren't helping me, i just got ubuntu02:29
lostincThanks! :) Time saved02:29
rggkothz: i'm on amsn now,i can't find that "option"02:30
gnomefreakVekemi: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386  but iirc the kernel for dapper is -27 now02:30
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VekemiOh yeah.02:30
VekemiIt's 2.6.15-2702:30
czer323_gnomefreak> do you know if these servers are all up-to-date?  I'm trying to update to the beta edgy on a test machine.02:30
VekemiI forgot that I updated it this morning.02:30
gnomefreakVekemi: uname -r will tell you what kernel you are running02:30
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gnomefreakczer323_: no i dont02:30
czer323_gnomefreak> thanks anyway02:30
btdownapt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`02:30
gnomefreakczer323_: i dont ever use mirrors unless i have to02:30
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VekemiAlright.02:30
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gnomefreakbtdown: yes but people dont understand that all the time02:31
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VekemiWhere would I find drivers for a dialup modem, too?02:31
SeanTatergnomefreak: why not mirrors02:31
SeanTatermirrors++02:31
gnomefreakSeanTater: why mirrors?02:31
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VekemiNevermind.02:31
VekemiFound it.02:31
btdowngnomefreak: gotchu man... ;()02:31
unicscould someone tell me if I am allowed to traslate the Ubuntu Desktop guide an publish it on my web site ?02:31
EvanIsaacso nobody here can decipher an FAQ to tell me in plain newbish how to get my Netgear W111T adapter working02:31
gnomefreakSeanTater: repos work fine here no need to use mirrors02:31
SeanTatergnomefreak: download from ubuntu.com _> 114 Kb/s download from osuosl.org -> 650 Kb/s02:31
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bruenigunics, it is probably already available in that language02:32
rggso,is there any msn client with audio support for ubuntu?02:32
czer323_SeanTater> is that mirror up to date? ;)02:32
vince790msn client with audio support for linux?02:32
czer323_seanTater> if so, i'll use it. ;)02:32
vince790:P02:32
gnomefreakSeanTater: my net connection is so slow it wouldnt make a difference here its dsl lite02:32
SeanTaterczer323_: I've never known it to be anything else02:32
kitcheEvanIsaac: i m in class right now or else I would help you out02:32
vince790let me know if you find that one rgg :)02:32
bruenigunics, but I would assume you could do that. The only thing they restrict from what I understand is logos and such02:32
SeanTatergnomefreak: Cable modem here02:32
VekemiI looked http://www.motorola.com/softmodem/driver.htm <-- here to see if there were any drivers for my Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem card, but there were only ones for RedHat and Mandrake...02:32
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Vekemi:x02:32
SeanTaterczer323_: where do you live?02:32
gnomefreakbrb smoke02:32
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SeanTaterczer323_: geographical location makes a huge difference02:33
czer323_SeanTater> Ohio, USA02:33
Gevaudan82Hello all...does anyone know how to install synaptec in ubuntu? apt-get can't seem to locate it02:33
EvanIsaackitche: how long until your class gets out?02:33
SeanTaterczer323_: osuosl is great then, they have a mirror in chicago02:33
rggvince790: ok,what is going to be your address in 2010?that way i can send you a letter when i find it :P02:33
kitcheumm about an hour or so02:33
Gevaudan82err, sorry, i meant synaptec in kubuntu02:33
mytrueheroI'm trying to install ubuntu, but it hangs on "Uncompressing kernel... booting linux, ok". Any suggestions?02:33
SeanTaterczer323_: ubuntu.com is in england02:33
shwaghow come debians apache-common has mod_env, but on ubuntu mod_env is nowhere to be found.02:33
bruenigGevaudan82, it is synaptic not synaptec02:33
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SeanTaterczer323_: use this-> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu02:34
Gevaudan82bruenig: oh man, i feel like an idiot now...thanks for clearing this up...i had a similar problem in a program once typing separator and separater02:34
SeanTaterczer323_: replace the ubuntu url with it in sources.list02:34
bruenighappens02:34
czer323_Seantater> it appears that http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/ is another mirror that I can't access... :-\02:34
SeanTaterczer323_: try with ftp:// instead02:35
SeanTaterczer323_: maybe a proxie?02:35
SeanTater /proxy/02:35
VekemiAll the drivers http://www.motorola.com/softmodem/driver.htm <--- here have .rpm file extensions, and if I recall correctly, Ubuntu is based on Debian. :|02:35
adami can't get easyubuntu removed from my comp. I got it to enable restricted stuff, but it didn't work so I did it manually and now easyubuntu won't go away.02:35
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EvanIsaacif anybody can help me getting my wifi usb adapter working they can find the information on it at ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/metawiki/index.php/list02:35
EvanIsaacit's number 20 under N02:36
ubutomVekemi, i don` t know if this will work, but you could try and use alien to make a .deb file from the rpm`s02:36
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VekemiOkay.02:36
f4t4l`Okay, need help installing....02:36
VekemiHow would I use alien?02:36
ubutomfirst you install it :)02:36
f4t4l`It hangs at "Booting kernel, okay."02:36
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f4t4l`and i can type and stuff.02:36
f4t4l`Like command prompt02:36
shwagwhen I do  apache2 -l | grep env   i see  mod_env.c   but if I   locate mod_env , even after a updatedb , i see it nowhere on my system.02:37
SeanTaterf4t4l`:check the md5 of the file you downloaded02:37
czer323_SeanTater> yeah, it's not working either way.  I assume that my ISP is having some issues.  I can use most sites fine, just some others I can't.  I'll keep trying different mirrors, thanks02:37
VekemiWhere would I get it? :x Right now, the only way I can access the internet on Ubuntu is by LANning the school's network.02:37
f4t4l`SeanTater:No, i ordered the CD02:37
SeanTaterczer323_: if I were you, I might whine at my ISP if half of the web won;t load for me02:37
ubutomand then you download the rpm, open a terminal, and type alien whatever.rpm, it will transform the .rpm into .deb02:37
SeanTaterf4t4l`: um --02:37
SeanTaterf4t4l`: dunno02:38
SeanTaterf4t4l`: never had that problem02:38
vince790does anyone know a work around to get a computer to boot for install when cd cant be made primary first boot?02:38
f4t4l`hmmm02:38
ubutomwell, try sudo aptitude install alien02:38
czer323_SeanTater> Yeah, I know that they'll fix it.  It's just a matter of when.  If it's too many other sites, then yeah, I will complain.  Otherwise, I'll just wait it out.  Thanks though.02:38
vince790or even a boot period?02:38
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SeanTaterczer323_: sorry --02:38
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shwagit appears its compiled into apache2.02:39
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temptedwoop woops! how's everyone edgy going?02:39
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f4t4l`Is there a way i could install Ubuntu other than booting and installing?02:39
czer323_Tempted> I heard edgy went beta.  I'm trying to check it out myself.02:39
f4t4l`And it says there are lots of defects, could it be my CD drive?02:40
KetsubanIn trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". I noticed that if I change to the "sis" driver (from "vesa") then it seems to work, but thecolouring is iffy. Anyone able to lend a hand?02:40
mytrueherovince790: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot02:40
Max_-dvd:// ... if it is in  /cdrom0 .. what do I write there?02:40
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vince790:( no net car mytruehero02:40
vince790card*02:40
mytrueheroI'm trying to install ubuntu, but it hangs on "Uncompressing kernel... booting linux, ok". Any suggestions?02:41
vince790just got this Ancient laptop02:41
f4t4l`YES02:41
f4t4l`ME TOO02:41
f4t4l`Mytruehero02:41
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f4t4l`same problem...02:41
VekemiSo, I download alien via aptitude, and then I sudo apt-dpkg blahblahblah.deb, right?02:41
VolvoBrB02:41
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bruenigI tried knot 3, looked and felt pretty much the same. The fonts were awful, but I suppose they always are until you change them.02:41
vince790ive tried booting with a win98 bootdisk02:41
vince790and using loadlin02:41
mytrueherovince790: hmm. "burn" the iso to an external HD, and boot from that, perhaps? don't know if that's possible02:41
vince790to no prevail02:41
heathsis there a way to force synaptic to get apps via download?02:41
heathskeeps asking for the install CD02:41
temptedbru: i am gonna wait a week i think02:41
temptedtill i try edgy...02:42
f4t4l`mytruehero?02:42
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f4t4l`what comp do you have?02:42
elazizhello, is there any one who using linux?02:42
bruenigheaths, it shouldn't do that. What app do you want.02:42
mytrueherof4t4l': er. what do you mean?02:42
kothz !fglrx02:42
vince790ibm 380D02:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:42
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vince790its a laptop02:42
f4t4l`Like, old, compaq?02:42
jribelaziz: yes, there are many here who use linux02:42
VekemiAnyone here ever use PengAOL?02:42
mytrueherof4t4l': new. assembled from parts02:43
KetsubanIn trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". I noticed that if I change to the "sis" driver (from "vesa") then it seems to work, but thecolouring is iffy. Anyone able to lend a hand?02:43
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adami can't get easyubuntu removed from my comp. I got it to enable restricted stuff, but it didn't work so I did it manually and now easyubuntu won't go away. help plz?02:43
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jribadam: have you asked in #easyubuntu?02:43
heathsbruenig: just need 'make'02:43
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f4t4l`[mytruehero] : Okay.,,,02:43
bruenigadam, you just delete it02:43
elazizjrib: i just wanna see someone dealing with main window of irc client :) before my "enter key event" i saw many lines going and going :)02:43
heathsbruenig: vmware_tools needs it to install02:43
temptedyou guys all using xchat? i kinda dred using it for some reason...02:43
bruenigheaths, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install make02:43
jribelaziz: oh ok02:44
heathsbruenig: same prompts me for the cd02:44
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elazizjrib: i want to select an operation system to carry on my software load, what to offer? linux stuff or macosxtiger ?02:44
adamit's in usr/lib/ it won't let me delete02:44
bruenigheaths, what about sudo apt-get update02:44
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jribelaziz: I'm not sure what you mean02:44
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Vekemijrib: elaziz - "What is better for software, Linux or Mac OS X Tiger?"02:45
elazizVekemi : thank you :)02:45
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heathsbruenig: that runs fine02:45
bruenigVekemi, linux02:46
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jpenabueno,02:46
Vekemibruenig : I was translating elaziz's statement. Heh.02:46
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elazizVekemi : i don want to deal with operation system, just want to do my work :) but XGL is wonderfull :)02:46
bruenigah02:46
Vekemielaziz : If you don't want to deal with the OS, you're better off with Mac OS X :|02:46
elazizVekemi : oh ok.02:47
BiGdAdDyshould i go ubuntu cd or ubuntu dvd? install02:47
bruenigBiGdadDy, cd is fine.02:47
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BiGdAdDywhat is the differ really?02:47
cablesm102Bigdaddy, if you have a broadband connection, cd is fine.02:47
KetsubanIn trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". This is odd because I've managed to get dual-monitor working perfectly with very little effort/exit02:47
KetsubanAck.02:47
cablesm102The point of the DVD is that it has many packges built into the disk02:47
cablesm102so you don't have to download them02:47
bruenigif you have dsl, might as well go with the cd because you can download other packages later via apt-get02:48
heathsbruenig: i wonder if it's because i chose OEM install02:48
BiGdAdDyoic02:48
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cablesm102The default install is identical02:48
BiGdAdDyk thanks ppl02:48
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bruenigheaths, I know there is a way to enable cd repository in synaptic but I wouldn't think that would force you to use it02:49
bruenigheaths, you could download the package from packages.ubuntu.com02:49
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cablesm102awkward silence02:50
heathsyeah just would e nice to have to do that everytime i wanted something;)02:50
bruenigalways silent...02:50
powerbookI need some help - I installed mysql with apt-get but I didn't set a password anywhere, what is it? there is a password for some reason02:50
bruenigI guess unless you have beeps enabled02:50
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smaxwhats a good site to deploy a tftp server ?02:51
unicspassword for the mysql server ?02:51
elazizpowerbook : look at my.ini file02:51
vince790almost bald from trying to install on this laptop :X02:51
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Vekemivince - installing isn't the pain.02:51
heathsmyslql -u root prompts you to change it02:51
powerbookelaziz: where is that located? what folder?02:52
VekemiGetting the drivers for everything and updating everything is the real pain :x02:52
pwklast question before i goto install02:52
pwki got vista nd xp daul boot with vist'a boot loader02:52
elazizpowerbook : heaths sentence is correct02:52
pwkwill installing ubnutu affect it ?02:52
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bruenigpwk, it will install grub boot loader but that boot loader should allow you to pick from the three02:52
bruenigmake sure you don't reformat those partitions02:52
Homer!grub02:52
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:53
powerbookbash: myslql: command not found02:53
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unicstry mysqladmin -u root password  'new password' to change it(create it)02:53
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heathsthere you go02:53
Vekemipowerbook : mysqpl -u root02:53
unicsthen mysql -u root -p02:53
heathsor spell mysql right;)02:53
pwki just thgouht, can't i test linux in vmware in xp?02:53
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unicsto log in02:53
powerbookbash: myslql: command not found02:53
krazykityes02:53
VekemiNo first l02:53
powerbookerr02:53
pwkor vpc 2004?02:53
heathsi'm running ubuntu in vmware02:53
powerbookbash: mysql: command not found02:53
Vekemi< <02:53
vince790alright im out night all and ty for your intrest02:53
pwkok02:53
heathshad no issues geting loaded02:53
VekemiIt probably didn't install correctly :|02:54
pwkcause then it'll tell me if i want it main os02:54
powerbookVekemi what is the mysql package called?02:54
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silvertip257hello all02:55
pwkshould i use vpc 04 or vmware for ubuntu ?02:55
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Rastahaha02:55
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Rastalilo its dead?02:55
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unicspowerbook try apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client02:55
heathshrm wonder if i could just mount the iso to get around this load cd thing02:55
Renan_s2pwk, vmware02:55
silvertip257hey flannel02:55
bleakedok, i just updated, then ran a simple upgrade (dapper security updates).. dpkg updated my kernel and a few other packages.  because of the kernel upgrade, and the fact that i haven't rebooted all summer, i decided to do a quick reboot.  on boot, after the POST, i get a blank screen with the text, "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT".  er..so is this a grub error?  kernel?  other?  i've booted into the livecd, and mounted my root partition.  /boot/grub/me02:56
bleakedlled kernel listed.  i'm rather puzzled, any ideas?02:56
powerbookI guess it didnt install right... doing that now unics, thanks02:56
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pwkanything specail i do in vmware ?02:57
silvertip257bleaked what type of font file do i need to install on a linux system?02:57
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HomerI have having trouble imagining a dapper drake in real life02:57
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silvertip257bleaked:  i cannot use .ttf or w/e i'm assuming02:57
SeanTaterpwk: I recommend qemu02:58
Rastasomeone knows if its possible to emulate IExplorer and photoshop in ubuntu without virtual machines like vmware?02:58
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ThinkingMananyone have a moment to help a guy out with what is probably a stupid question about the sudoers file?02:58
brian98thinkingman: Whats the prob02:58
unicsrasta  try crossover02:58
tritiumThinkingMan: don't edit it.  Add users to the admin group instead.02:58
bleakedsilvertip257: why are you asking me?02:58
pwkwhats qemu02:58
pwk?02:58
The_Voxanybody know if the AMD64 version of 6.10 will be BiArch?02:58
SeanTaterpwk: qemu is free and in the repositories, the accelerator is free,  but not as in fredom, and can be acquired from the website02:58
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tritium!qemu02:58
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo02:58
silvertip257bleaked:  i thought u were answering a question about fonts...no?02:58
Rastaunics, ok ill try it thanks man02:59
SeanTaterpwk: it simulates a computer inside your computer02:59
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bleakedsilvertip257: but as far as i know, ttf works fine.  you're probably after the various font packages in the repositories.  and no i wasn't answering any font questions.02:59
silvertip257sorry bleaked, how do i install fonts, once i get them off another partition on my hd02:59
pwkSwweeetttt it lest u run winows in linux ?03:00
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ThinkingManbrian98: I just picked up a hp laserjet 2605dn which requires a driver not in the ubuntu package tree, so I found a driver at http://hplip.sourceforge.net which gives me a .run file to run, when I try to sudo ./hplip-1.6.9.run I get03:00
jack_hi guys03:00
ThinkingMansudo: ./hplip-1.6.9.run: command not found03:00
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silvertip257sorry bleaked, how do i install fonts, once i get them off another partition on my hd03:00
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bleakedsilvertip257: i actually don't know..  and could care less right now, my system is currently broken, and so i don't have much time for this.  please check the forums and the ubuntu wiki, it's covered in both places in much detail.03:00
ThinkingManSo I'm assuming I need to edit the sudoers file using visudo to say "hey, let me run whatever command I want", it's just a question of how03:01
jack_do you like cheese03:01
tritiumThinkingMan: it's not already supported without the need for that driver?03:01
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tpmsudo chmod +x hplip...03:01
silvertip257*sorry* bleaked03:01
tritiumThinkingMan: no, that's not your problem.  Most likely it's not exectuable, like tpm just pointed out.03:01
jack_by guys03:01
smaxfuck.  ubuntu sucks... hard.   im switching to gentoo or debian.  sheesh.  fucking newbie os shit.  fuck this nigger.03:01
ThinkingMank, worth a shot03:01
knapperHelp. I wanted to get rid of xgl, so I removed it, but now I don't have a window manager. I'm in KDE03:01
The_Voxsilvertip257: just copy them to ~/.fonts for a single user or stick them wherever the other ttf files in your /usr directory are03:01
silvertip257thank you The_Vox03:01
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silvertip257i will try that03:02
brian98thinkingman: maybe need to set them to be executable03:02
ThinkingManheeyy it appears to be working03:02
brian98!chmod03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:02
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ThinkingManwell, appeared03:02
boris55LTSP 5.0?03:02
ThinkingManwarning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: gcc (gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler)03:02
ThinkingManI'm pretty sure gcc is there03:02
brian98it must be a source package..03:03
tpmthinkingman...sudo apt-get install build-essentials shoould do it03:03
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brian98What he says ! ;)03:03
brian98except its build-essential I think03:04
tritiumright, brian9803:04
pwki'll stay with windows i think03:04
ThinkingManyep, essential03:04
tpmI think brian98 is right03:04
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ThinkingManbut thanks03:04
EvanIsaacI think I installed the driver for my W111T Netgear USB adapter, but it's not showing up in Networking03:04
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ThinkingManI'm supposing I should've checked linux driver compat before picking up this printer03:05
derekjwwhello03:05
brian98Thinkingman: you should be able to get it working...03:05
pwkthxs everyone03:05
tritiumThinkingMan: are you sure it's not already supported?03:05
pwkubnutu's not for me03:05
pwktoo hard03:05
EvanIsaaci typed in ndis -l, and it says athfmwdl driver present, hardware present03:05
derekjwwI am to ask  how to enable HAL03:05
tritiumThinkingMan: the standard Postscript driver at least should work.03:05
EvanIsaacbut shouldn't that mean it's working?03:05
brian98pwk: Not to worry!03:06
pwkand not too many software as windows03:06
ThinkingMantritium: standard...pstscript...driver?03:06
pwki was close03:06
tritiumThinkingMan: did you go through the printer setup utility?03:06
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pwki ran 5.10 live cd before a little was ok03:06
ThinkingManfwiw, the printer is shared from a windows box upstairs03:06
ThinkingMantritium: yup03:06
brian98pwk: #ubuntu-offtopic03:06
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EvanIsaacdon't all come answer me at once now..03:07
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brian98Sorry ,,,03:07
derekjwwI am to ask  how to enable HAL03:07
derekjww?03:07
brian98EvanIsaac!03:07
brian98What is the prob?03:07
gnomefreakderekjww: hal is enabled by defaulkt03:07
gnomefreak-k03:07
EvanIsaacok03:07
derekjwwok03:07
EvanIsaaci'm very new to ubuntu03:07
brian98no worries!03:08
EvanIsaacand i'm trying to get my W111T Netgear USB adapter to work03:08
tritiumThinkingMan: there is a Color Laserjet 2605 regular and postscript printer driver already03:08
brian98ok03:08
silvertip257The_Vox, where do i get to that directory you're talking about?03:08
czer323_!mirrors03:08
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive03:08
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EvanIsaaci tried installing the drivers using the howto on the site but i don't think that worked03:08
tpmevan have you installed network-manager?03:08
Red-SoxEvanIsaac: What's the problem?03:09
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ThinkingMantritium: maybe I'm missing something in the printer installation process, I'm going through system->administration->printing...03:09
EvanIsaaceh?03:09
boris55beta released today, correct?03:09
EvanIsaacnetwork manager? what?03:09
tritiumThinkingMan: no, that's correct03:09
btdownhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta03:09
EvanIsaaci just went to networking to check if wlan0 was there like the howto said it should be but it wasn't there03:09
brian98evanisaac: go to a shell type sudo iwconfig03:09
EvanIsaacno wireless extensions03:10
tpmSystem->Administration->Synaptic...search for network-manager...assuming you have a wired connection.03:10
ledfloydhi all, i've a problem with samba and ldap...when i run # net getlocalsid i had this error:03:10
ledfloyd[2006/09/28 17:55:34, 0]  lib/smbldap.c:smb_ldap_start_tls(546)03:10
ledfloydFailed to issue the StartTLS instruction: Connect error03:10
ThinkingMangoing through new printer -> setting up network printer using windows (smb), supplying the hostname and printer share, under my driver selection closest thing I have is hp color laserjet 260003:10
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ThinkingManI have the 2605dn03:10
ledfloydsomeone can help me?03:10
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EvanIsaacok i'm downloading network-manager03:11
silvertip257will anyone help me with the process of installing fonts?03:11
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ledfloydmy o.s. is ubuntu server 6.0603:11
boris55what's up with LTSP 5.0 in Eft?  Is this the server based code?03:11
tritiumEvanIsaac: you might also want network-manager-gnome03:12
tpmEvan, search for wpasupplicant in case you want to use wpa03:12
brian98evanisaac: ifconfig03:12
EvanIsaacwpa?03:12
EvanIsaacwhat's wpa :S03:12
brian98evanisaac: what cards do you have?03:12
crimsunwpasupplicant is in the default seeds.03:12
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EvanIsaacit's a netgear W111T03:12
wwwdotcomHello, downloading ubuntu now03:12
brian98what is listed when you type ifconfig03:12
wwwdotcomready to enter the linux world03:12
EvanIsaacif you go to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List it's number 19 under N03:12
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boris55you'll love linux and ubuntu...03:12
brian98what is listed when you type ifconfig03:13
mikeo1anyone know how to run a server behind a NAT with no port forwarding?03:13
brian98:)03:13
EvanIsaaceth003:13
EvanIsaacand lo03:13
EvanIsaacand stuff03:13
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crimsunsure, use a tcp relay03:13
ledfloydok bye03:13
mikeo1how do i do that03:13
EvanIsaaceth0, then a bunch of stats03:13
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tritiumThinkingMan: you don't see 2605 under Manufacturer: HP?03:13
EvanIsaacand lo, with a bunch of stats03:13
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ThinkingMantritium: nope...03:13
EvanIsaaci have a wired connection working on the laptop already03:13
mikeo1i have access to a server that isnt behind a nat...03:13
silvertip257will *anyone* help me with installing fonts ???03:13
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brian98evanisaac: but no wlan003:14
tritiumThinkingMan: "Color Laserjet 2605"03:14
mikeo1so is there a way i could connect to that, and then have connections on that forwarded to this03:14
EvanIsaacno wlan003:14
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EvanIsaac:(03:14
ThinkingManrunning ubuntu 6.06 dapper03:14
mikeo1because this connection is insanely fast03:14
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tritiumThinkingMan: and the next one, "Color Laserjet 2605 Postscript (recommended)"03:14
lostincI am trying to get FCEU to play a old NES ROM and I keep getting this error "Initializing sound...Error opening a sound device." anyone know how to fix it?03:14
eXcentrasilvertip257, put it into /home/yourusername/.fonts03:15
ThinkingMantritium: Only thing I see is "Color Laserjet 2600n"03:15
brian98evanisaac: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome03:15
silvertip257eXcentra, i'd like it to be in global location (for all users)03:15
ThinkingManabsolutely nothing as 2605, what would I even update to update the list of printer drivers?03:15
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tpmevan, I commented out all lines in /etc/network/interfaces except the 2 for lo and network-manager brings up my wireless connection and asks for my key (wpa is a form of security)03:15
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brian98evanisaac: Then have a look @ http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.2903:15
matthew_wIs there any known error with java that will cause constant java.lang.nullpointerexception errors under Ubuntu?03:16
EvanIsaaci got 2 errors03:16
eXcentrasilvertip257, 'sudo cp' your font into /usr/share/fonts03:16
silvertip257thank you very much eXcentra03:16
EvanIsaaci already looked at that i'm pretty sure03:16
ThinkingMantritium: sorry, that last comment I made was for you03:16
tpmevan what are the errors03:16
EvanIsaaccould not get lock /vart/lib/dpkg/lock open03:16
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EvanIsaacand unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?03:16
brian98means you have a window open with synaptic03:16
tpmdo you have synaptic open?03:17
tpm...what brian said.03:17
frak__why do we need swap03:17
tritiumThinkingMan: sorry, perhaps this .ppd is not in dapper03:17
ThinkingManis edgy "live" yet?03:17
EvanIsaacok it's installing the gnome thing03:17
brian98!schedule03:18
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule03:18
EvanIsaaci think it's done03:18
brian98ok03:18
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tritiumThinkingMan: no, just in beta03:18
ThinkingManoh ok03:18
ThinkingManis there any way to get that .ppd into dapper (or at least my version)03:18
brian98evanisaac: so how have you installed the driver?03:18
EvanIsaacyes03:18
tritiumThinkingMan: only by hand03:18
frak__why do we need swap?03:18
ThinkingManand by that, which I'm sure sounded convoluded, I mean, how can I install the thing by han...03:18
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EvanIsaaci did the ndiswrapperthing03:19
ThinkingManyes that03:19
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brian98ok03:19
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eXcentrafrak__, i guess it's like windows' page file03:19
ThinkingMantritium: so installing the .ppd by hand inolves....?03:19
EvanIsaacbut i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper to do it03:19
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silvertip257eXcentra, i'm really new and lmao, can't figure out how 2 'sudo cp'03:19
frak__ok, somebody told me it was for ram or something03:19
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Admiral_Chicagosilvertip257, in a terminal03:20
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silvertip257ok03:20
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silvertip257well03:20
frak__to conserve it03:20
tritiumThinkingMan: I don't believe so, but I've not done it before.  Let me see if I can find out...03:20
brian98evanisaac: can you type sudo modprobe -l ndiswrapper03:20
ThinkingMantritium: thanks a ton03:20
ThinkingMancause things aren't going well with the "self-installer" from hplip either03:20
jack_anybody on ppc arch? :)03:21
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padananyone know of an xbox emu ?03:21
EvanIsaacmy output was /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko03:21
tritiumThinkingMan: when you go to choose the Manufacturer, isn't there a "Install Driver" button at the bottom right?03:21
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f4t4l`http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26759703:21
Admiral_Chicagopadan, #ubuntu-offtopic03:21
ThinkingMantritium: yes...03:22
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tritiumThinkingMan: there you go!  Just supply it the .ppd file there :)03:22
brian98Evanisaac: can you type sudo lsmod | grep acx03:22
eXcentrasilvertip257, okay, time for some lessons. :) slash (/) means root. when you see "/usr/share/fonts" it means to go to the root directory and then to usr, share, etc.03:22
ThinkingMantritium: sounds easy enough...where do I find said .ppd file?03:22
EvanIsaacok it didn't do anything it looks like03:22
silvertip257yes eXcentra03:22
silvertip257now how about the sudo cp eXcentra?03:23
eXcentrasilvertip257, to copy files to folders other than your home folder, you need root access, so you do "sudo cp blah blah"03:23
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eXcentrasilvertip257, for the command you use "sudo cp locationoffont /usr/share/fonts"03:23
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silvertip257woah that's over my head eXcentra03:23
silvertip257oh ok eXcentra i think i undrstand that03:23
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EvanIsaaci put that in03:23
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EvanIsaacand it didn't give me any response03:24
brian98evanisaac: what did ndiswrapper do when you installed the windows driver03:24
eXcentrasilvertip257, lol. okay so your location is.. let's say if you saved it to your Desktop. you can do /home/username/Desktop03:24
eXcentrasilvertip257, or you can do ~/Desktop. ~ is short for /home/yourusername03:24
EvanIsaacwhat do you mean03:24
brian98did it install?03:24
jack_i am what i am bc of who we all are03:24
mikeo1how long does it take to upgrade 1000 packages?03:24
tritiumThinkingMan: it should be either on the CD, or part of the installer03:24
SpudDoggkitche, are you here?03:24
silvertip257well crap i mad a spec folder for stuff, now i've gotta figureout what that would be eXcentra lol03:24
brian98evanisaac: did you sudo ndiswrapper -i /location_of_your_wireless_driver/your_driver.inf03:25
eXcentrasilvertip257, so, for example, you do "sudo cp ~/Desktop/font.ttf /usr/share/fonts"03:25
Admiral_Chicagomikeo1, depends on how many packages are getting upgraded03:25
Admiral_Chicagothey aren't ALL updated03:25
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EvanIsaacyes03:25
mikeo1one thousand03:25
EvanIsaaci did03:25
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silvertip257ok lemme catch up eXcentra03:25
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jack_wireless? rotflmao03:25
mikeo1over a thousand actually03:25
donnaIs there a way for me to find out my root password?03:25
mikeo1upgrading to edgy...03:25
tritium!rootsudo03:25
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:25
jack_say its rt73 chipset03:25
tpmevan, what does lsusb show?03:25
jack_tritium nuh-uh03:26
jack_really?03:26
mikeo1actually 1216 packages to be exact03:26
Red-SoxJust did "Sudo apt-get install tpconfig" and now I don't know what to do after that, any suggestions?03:26
Admiral_Chicagomikeo1, well i'm updating too and its been taking me about an hour03:26
mikeo1will that take a long time?03:26
ThinkingMantritium: (and pardon me if this is getting annoying and newbish), are .ppd files platform independent, because I'm 99% sure hp does not make a linux driver for this printer03:26
Admiral_Chicagobut i'm on a really bad connection03:26
hondjedonna: Yes, with a passwd cracker. There is no root passwd by default, though...Ubuntu uses sudo.03:26
EvanIsaacBus 001 Device 002: ID 1385:425103:26
mikeo1like over an hour?03:26
Flannelhondje, donna, no.  there is *no* root password, at all.03:26
tpmdonna root is disabled by default. you can sudo passwd root to enable/set root's password03:26
tritiumThinkingMan: they are03:26
ThinkingManoooh, that makes sense then03:26
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EvanIsaacBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000003:27
cpk2mikeo1: it all depends, some packages can just be a couple kB while others can be quite large03:27
Red-SoxI guess a better way of asking this is, anyway use tpconfig?03:27
brian98evanisaac: try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up03:27
tritiumdonna: better to learn how to use sudo, though03:27
hondjeFlannel: 'by default', and if she does have one it's quite possible to find it :)03:27
ThinkingManscanning the install disc now for the .ppd file03:27
mikeo1850mb or so of packages, all are downloaded already03:27
mikeo1juts the install time03:27
brian98evanisaac: are you on the ubuntu machine now?03:27
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mikeo1and it isnt giving me a progress bar03:27
Flannelhondje: right, but if she set one, she wouldn't be asking what it was.03:27
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tpmevan it doesn't sound like the driver is installed03:27
tritiumThinkingMan: also, a google search or a search on linuxprinting.org may turn one up too03:27
jack_tritium that did not work at all03:27
tritiumjack_: what?03:27
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jack_(!rootsudo)03:27
Flannelmikeo1: there's less than 700MB to download, guarenteed.03:27
mikeo1no there isnt03:27
brian98tpm: sounds like03:27
donnaYesss thank you guys.03:27
hondjeI wouldn't assume that. I've lost root passwds before :-)03:27
mikeo1was like 850mb or so03:28
mikeo1to download03:28
EvanIsaaci'm on the ubuntu machine right now but i'm talking to you on another computer03:28
brian98ok03:28
tritiumjack_: I didn't tell you to try that.  I was invoking ubotu.03:28
Admiral_Chicagomikeo1, the disk image is 700Mb03:28
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mikeo1yeah but did it through apt...03:28
Admiral_Chicagonot all packages are getting upgraded03:28
Red-SoxShort paste, sorry motoxer4eva99603:28
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EvanIsaacwlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device03:28
Red-Soxoh my bad03:28
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Flannelmikeo1: only if you've installed additional software, the default edgy install takes 700mb on a CD, so there's at max 700mb for default installs03:28
Admiral_Chicagoits like a download03:28
jack_oh i thought it was to get root passwd03:28
ThinkingMantritium: yeah no luck on the CD, I'll try to see if I can find one floating around the tubes anywhere, thanks a ton for all the hlep03:28
ThinkingManhelp even03:28
tritiumThinkingMan: sure :)03:28
Red-Soxjonny@jonny-laptop:~$ tpconfig03:28
Red-SoxCould not open PS/2 Port [/dev/psaux] .jonny@jonny-laptop:~$03:28
Red-SoxThat's it, any ideas?03:28
tritiumThinkingMan: it's likely part of the installer.03:29
Admiral_Chicagothe size doesn't increase because its done through terminal03:29
mikeo1 Cannot remove /usr/X11R6/bin directory03:29
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silvertip257eXcentra, the terminal says:  cp: target `/user/share/fonts' is not a directory03:29
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brian98evanisaac: This is the best walkthrough for ndiswrapper imho: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.2903:29
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eXcentrasilvertip257, "usr". remove the e :p03:29
silvertip257eXcentra what e ?03:29
EvanIsaaci'm pretty sure i followed that exactly03:29
eXcentrasilvertip257, well, it says /user/share/fonts rather than /usr/share/fonts03:29
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mikeo1what is /usr/X11R6 used for?03:30
foohm, what FTP client do you guys like?03:30
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mikeo1and how do i make a symbolic link to it if there is stuff in it03:30
silvertip257eXcentra, lmao i can't believe i did that hahaha laugh w/ me03:30
brian98tpm: it's a usb device, that add's another layer of issues?03:30
SpudDoggHas anyone here ever installed the serialmonkey ralink driver in ubuntu?03:30
eXcentrasilvertip257, haha :P03:30
hondjemikeo1: For common files for the X server on that compute. R6 means it hasn't been upgraded for awhile, though03:30
silvertip257thank you eXcentra03:30
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hondjedoh, not R6 :)03:30
eXcentrafoo, i just use gFTP; it does the job for me :)03:30
mikeo1hmmm03:30
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hondjeln -s is for sym links03:31
mikeo1well how do i upgrade it?03:31
eXcentrasilvertip257, hope it works out :)03:31
mikeo1should i just delete the folder?03:31
fooeXcentra: sweet, thanks03:31
mikeo1cause the package gave me an error03:31
foolftp isn't working for some reason03:31
silvertip257me 2 eXcentra03:31
tpmevan, try: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces ... comment out all lines EXCEPT: auto lo AND iface lo inet loopback. You won't have network acces until you login...03:31
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hondjemikeo1: I lied, it's current :-) ln -s does sym links03:31
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mikeo1#flood for my error message?03:31
Flannel!paste03:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:31
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silvertip257eXcentra:  you leaving ?03:32
EvanIsaachold on03:32
Red-SoxHow do I make my synaptics pointing device scroll??03:32
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brian98evanisaac: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:32
EvanIsaacin gedit the lastone has wlan0 listed03:32
eXcentraeXcentra, no, i'll be staying here for a bit.03:32
tritiumThinkingMan: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-Color_LaserJet_260503:32
mikeo1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25126/03:32
hondjebrian98: If you type out the first part of their nick and hit tab, most clients will finish spelling it for you :)03:33
mikeo1what should i do about this03:33
eXcentrasilvertip257, err, no, i'll be staying here for a bit..03:33
EvanIsaacwhat do you mean comment out?03:33
silvertip257good eXcentra03:33
mikeo1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25126/03:33
tpmsorry, put a # in front of it.03:33
david___is there ubuntu03:33
Buglouse~!THANKYOU FOR SUPPORTING UBUNTU. AND THANKS TO THE DEVELOPERS!~ ~LOVE IT ALL~03:33
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brian98hondje, ;)03:33
david___is there ubuntu  for 686?03:33
tritiumhi adam03:34
EvanIsaacwhat do you mean by comment out?03:34
Admiral_Chicagodavid___, yes03:34
tritiumadam: Nice to see another NM person :)03:34
EvanIsaacdelete?03:34
Admiral_Chicagoits just Ubuntu for PC03:34
eurytusthere's a NEW mexico?03:34
david___i can only find it for 38603:34
ThinkingMantritium: thanks so much, here goes nothin03:34
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tritiumeurytus: very funny03:34
cheeseerEvanIsaac, its means put a # in front of the line03:34
tpmEvan, to comment out put a # in front (1st character) of the line03:34
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Admiral_Chicagodavid___, i think its the some no?03:34
silvertip257eXcentra, it's having probs w/ the filename03:34
mikeo1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25126/03:35
david___ok, just wondering03:35
eXcentrasilvertip257, what's the error message?03:35
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silvertip257eXcentra:  i'll paste it in a sec03:35
mikeburranyone know if edgy beta supports i965 chipset?03:35
tpmEvan, iface eth1 inet dhcp ... becomes ... #iface eth1 inet dhcp03:35
SpudDoggHas anyone here ever installed the serialmonkey ralink driver in ubuntu?03:35
brian98hondje, thanks for that... should have tried that :)03:35
silvertip257eXcentra:  cp: cannot stat `/home/username/firefox_downloads/ANGRC___.TTF': No such file or directory03:35
brian98too obvious03:35
EvanIsaacok i did the networking restart thing03:36
hondjebrian98: oui oui ;-)03:36
sbalneavmikeo1: What are you upgrading from, and to?03:36
david___The times i boot into windows are becoming less and less, my doesn't even use windows anymore cause ubuntu boots faster, but when i do, it seems like something happens to my ntfs partition to make it have to go into recovery mode, anybody havee anyideas?03:36
brian98EvanIsaac, iwconfig03:36
mikeo1from dapper to edgy03:36
silvertip257eXcentra:  the file name was shortened w/ the ____ underscores, but i copied th filename from the file attributes03:36
EvanIsaacno wireless extensions03:36
mikeo1getting that error on that package03:36
brian98:(03:36
mikeo1should i just delete the folder?03:36
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brian98EvanIsaac, I would start again with the driver install process03:37
tpmEvanIsaac: sudo apt-get install wireless-tools03:37
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eXcentrasilvertip257, try renaming the file to something else :P03:37
sbalneavmikeo1: I would rename the folder.03:37
ThinkingMantritium: well, everything appears to be working, but now when I try to print I get Printing: Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds... in the status03:37
bleakedi'm having a rather serious problem.. after a dapper security update (which included a kernel update) and a reboot, after the POST the following text/error is displayed: "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT".  is this a grub error?  or?  and if so, suggestions for a fix?03:37
silvertip257eXcentra:: awww more renaming & typing !03:37
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mikeo1copied it and renamed it03:37
EvanIsaacack my battery died03:37
mikeo1now going to delete03:37
sbalneavmikeo1: And file a bug.03:37
EvanIsaaclet me get my charger03:37
sbalneavWhy delete?03:37
david___one of the times i have found i need windows is to burn dvds are there any programs for linux that strip cp from the movies?03:37
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david___When i buy a new dvd i like to back them up\03:38
sbalneavmikeo1: Easy, just go the launchpad.net.03:38
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silvertip257eXcentra:  still doesnt work, I've tried it w/ another font that does not have a messed up filename03:38
total_meltdownHey, does anyone have a suggestion for the smallest possible installation of Linux? Like, seriously just the Kernel, Bash, and the core utilities like ls and rm?03:38
tpmhondje: nice [TAB]  tip!03:38
hondje:-)03:39
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mikeo1hmmm03:39
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mikeo1now im getting a ton of other errors03:39
chodehi03:39
total_meltdownHi03:39
chodesome thing is terrably wrong with ubuntu.03:39
silvertip257u talkin 2 me tpm?03:39
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EvanIsaacok ubuntu is booting up again03:39
chodeanyway...03:39
silvertip257nah nvm tpm03:39
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silvertip257sorry tpm03:39
elkbuntutotal_meltdown, google for linux on a floppy03:39
rendigood morning how to uncompress this file 09-04-2006-0656.gz03:39
tpmsilvertip257: no prob.03:39
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mikeo1Errors were encountered while processing:03:40
mikeo1 /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.0.22ubuntu10_amd64.deb03:40
mikeo1E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:40
rendican help me sir ?03:40
chodei Xed out all terminals,  and i still get /dev/ttyS0  still in use.  how can this be technically feasable after killing the PID as well?  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tUgDio86.html03:40
Fjodorrendi: gunzip 09-04-2006-0656.gz03:40
mikeo1thats what i get after renaming X11R603:40
rendiThanks so much Fjodor03:40
chodenever, have i encounterd such an idiosyncrasy on gentoo or slackware.03:40
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eXcentrasilvertip257, are you typing case-sensitively? is it the right filename/location? and as tpm mentioned, you can use the tab button when typing a file name in terminal to automatically complete it for you.03:40
total_meltdownelkbuntu: tomsrtbt?03:40
Fjodorrendi: Np03:40
elkbuntutotal_meltdown, there are others, but yes, along those lines03:40
ThinkingMantritium: you there bud?03:40
silvertip257eXcentra:  oh i didnt know that ok i'll try it right now03:41
AsymmetryDoes anyone know why SATA I drives are shown before SATA II drives? I've got two SATA IIs, and a SATA I, in that order, and it shows the SATAI as sda, and the other two as sdb and sdc. When I go to install Ubuntu, everything's screwed up. GRUB reads the wrong partitions, and all that fun stuff. I try and modify GRUB so that it works, but I can't get it right.03:41
tritiumThinkingMan: yep03:41
EvanIsaacok ubuntu is booted again03:41
chodei Xed out all terminals,  and i still get /dev/ttyS0  still in use when running minicom.  how can this be technically feasable after killing the PID as well?  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tUgDio86.html   is anyone in here still running minicom or are you all using Windows as a crutch03:41
total_meltdownelkbuntu: I found LOAF (ecks.org) but the nameserver is configured to point to 127.0.0.1 - I was really confused when www.ecks.org brought me to my local site03:42
ThinkingMannot sure if you saw what happened, I think everything is going well but now when I try to print I get an error: ubuntu Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds...03:42
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sbalneavchode: That shows that minicom didn't die.03:42
tpmEvanIsaac: in the upper right corner is the nm-applet. If you left click it it should have an option for wireless network...03:42
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mikeo1no combination is working03:42
sbalneavchode: kill -9 <pid>03:42
mikeo1no matter what i do it errors03:42
mikeo1wtf03:43
silvertip257eXcentra:  now the terminal gives me the > prompt03:43
eXcentrasilvertip257, ?03:43
elkbuntutotal_meltdown, i was thinking along the lines of: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/baslinux/03:43
EvanIsaacupper right?03:43
silvertip257yes eXcentra ... idk what 2 do03:43
EvanIsaaci see a power symbol03:43
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ThinkingManwhat even IS a CIFS host03:43
eXcentrasilvertip257, eh, dunno what that is. try closing and opening a new terminal..03:43
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EvanIsaacand when i tried to apt get the wireless tools it said wireless-tools is already the newest version03:43
tritiumThinkingMan: is the Windows machine the printer is hooked up to setup to share it?03:43
silvertip257ok03:43
tpmEvanIsaac: type nm-applet in a console03:43
ThinkingMantritium: yup03:43
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sbalneavmikeo1: What steps exactly did you take to perform the upgrade?03:44
urthwhytehello03:44
mikeo1whats on the guide03:44
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EvanIsaacok i typed it03:44
mikeo1https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades03:44
total_meltdownelkbuntu: http://www.superant.com/smalllinux is what I'm looking at03:44
adami heard linux now supports MTP protocol. how do I get it working? My Zen Vision: M isn't recognized03:44
tritiumThinkingMan: not sure then.  Some sort of networking issue, or SMB problem.03:44
silvertip257eXcentra: now it says permission denied03:44
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total_meltdown2-3 MB RAM requirement is about right03:44
SpudDoggkitche, are you here?!03:44
EvanIsaacthere's still a power symbol in the upper left03:44
EvanIsaacupper right i mean03:44
eXcentrasilvertip257, did you do sudo?03:44
tritiumThinkingMan: I need to run, buddy.  Good luck.03:45
ThinkingMantritium: thanks so much for everything man03:45
mikeo1how do i downgrade from this point03:45
ThinkingManI'll ook into networking/smb issues asap03:45
silvertip257eXcentra thank you for being patient, i'm learning every step of the way03:45
tpmEvanIsaac:  it should have a put 2 computers in the upper right beside the power...speaker icons?03:45
sbalneavmikeo1: Well, I'd say there's an upgrade bug in the x11-common package.03:45
eXcentrasilvertip257, no prob. ;)03:45
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mikeo1while can i downgrade so when i reboot my system doesnt die03:45
silvertip257eXcentra:  i 'm gonna look 2 see if it copied it03:45
elkbuntutotal_meltdown, never used it.. messed around with basiclinux once for the kicks.. it is very basic.03:46
EvanIsaac there's 3 icons of monitors03:46
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adamhelp with MTP protocol plz!! private chat03:46
sbalneavmikeo1: You followed the part of the guide that said you should have backups, right?03:46
silvertip257eXcentra:  SUCCESS!, now to see if OOff recogs it03:46
deathz0rhow can i install bitchx on ubuntu?03:46
mikeo1backups of what03:46
deathz0rits not in synaptic03:46
mikeo1this computer has mission critical data on it03:46
deathz0r!info bitchx03:46
ubotubitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB03:46
sbalneavmikeo1: The part of the guide right at the top that says: "Do not upgrade to Edgy on your primary workstation - At least, please backup important data!"03:47
deathz0rwtf i have dapper..03:47
tpmEvanIsaac: click any one of them....03:47
mikeo1while if beryl worked on dapper i wouldnt have this problem03:47
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mikeo1and aiglx03:47
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EvanIsaacok i fif03:47
EvanIsaaci did03:47
SqueeHow do I set up multiple loopack interfaces?03:48
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EvanIsaacshould i uncomment that stuff that brian98 toldme to comment?03:48
EvanIsaacbtw03:48
Squeeusing /etc/network/interfaces03:48
laervianhi everyone03:48
boris55going to download eft this weekend. try it on my 933 mhz machine.03:48
mikeo1fuck it time to wipe this ubuntu trash and install sabayon03:48
laervianany bioinformatic expert around?03:48
tpmEvanIsaac: does it have "Wireless Networking" as an option?03:48
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sbalneavSabayon?03:48
mikeo1its 100x better03:48
chodefuck03:48
mikeo1look it up03:48
EvanIsaacno03:48
rredd4!language03:48
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:48
sbalneavIt's a lockdown editor?03:48
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adam!mtp03:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:48
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chodefuck nigger03:49
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brian98ops03:49
elkbuntu!ops03:49
mikeo1sabayon live cd03:49
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!03:49
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about music transfer protocol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:49
Amaranthelkbuntu: ?03:49
EvanIsaacso should i uncomment that stuff tpm?03:49
naliothAmaranth: i got it03:49
mikeo1sucks that i customized this one so much03:49
mikeo1got my mouse working and everything03:49
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SqueeHow do I set up multiple Loopback interfaces?03:49
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david___can someone please help me with dvd rip?03:49
brian98EvanIsaac, tpm, I would say go ahead03:49
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mikeo1fuck how do i downgrade03:49
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sbalneavmikeo1: Simple.03:49
david___or point merto a place that can?03:49
brian98Some people03:50
mikeo1how?03:50
laervianany bioinformatics guy?03:50
mikeo1just change sources.list back?03:50
Amaranthmikeo1: There are at least two ops active in the channel and you're swearing....03:50
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sbalneavfix up your /etc/apt/sources.list, change edgy back to dapper, and dist-upgrade.03:50
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Amaranthmikeo1: To downgrade you put the dapper CD in your drive, format, and wait for it to finish installing.03:50
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Amaranthsbalneav: That doesn't downgrade.03:50
mikeo1lol thats not me03:50
mikeo1thats chode03:51
Amaranthmikeo1: <mikeo1> fuck how do i downgrade03:51
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cpk2hehe03:51
mikeo1<chode> fuck nigger03:51
sproingietake it to pm03:51
imbrandonAmaranth, and please dont repeat it heh03:51
Amaranthmikeo1: At least let it scroll off the screen before you deny it.03:51
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Amaranthmikeo1: Cut it out.03:51
elkbuntumikeo1, he's also banned now.. it can be a similar situation for you if you continue03:51
mikeo1oh ok03:52
imbrandonheya elky03:52
Amaranthmikeo1: Once again, to downgrade you have to format and reinstall.03:52
elkbuntuhi imbrandon :)03:52
mdzmikeo1: there is no safe way to downgrade03:52
mikeo1while i guess ill try to downgrade and if it fails ill reinstall03:52
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Amaranthmikeo1: Rather that go through that hassle, why not join #ubuntu+1 and see if we can get edgy working for you?03:52
silvertip257eXcentra looks like it works, just gotta test it w/ OO03:52
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mikeo1ok03:52
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bimberiwhoa, all the celebs are on atm - it'll be Bill Clinton next :)03:52
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elkbuntui believe he's judigng the need to downgrade on the fact he has 3rd party alpha software known as beryl installed ;)03:53
Amaranthmikeo1: dist-upgrade will not downgrade you, you have to manually tell it to fetch old versions of packages03:53
brian98:-)03:53
ajmitchbimberi: celebrities? yes, I'm here.. :)03:53
Amaranthelkbuntu: Haha, that's my repo. :)03:53
bimberiwow!  and ajmitch too! ;)03:53
mikeo1is there a guide somewhere for failed upgrades?03:53
elkbuntuAmaranth, then could you maybe discern if im correct and take him into -xgl?03:53
bleakedmikeo1: no, but what's your problem.. i just had a failed upgrade myself a moment ago..03:54
briguyd_i tried to get banshee to scan my 63,000+ song samba'd music collection: bad idea03:54
rredd4is there a m4v codec available?  trying to open a itunes tv show in ubuntu03:54
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briguyd_its been running for 24 hours, the laptop is unusable, and its 100% cpu load03:54
elkbuntuAmaranth, from what ive noticed, 3rd party repos are causing upgrade failures anyway03:54
silvertip257eXcentra are you there?03:54
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Amaranthelkbuntu: heh, mine shouldn't03:54
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eXcentrasilvertip257, yo03:54
bleakedbriguyd: what, scanning so many files over the network, or using banshee? :D03:55
EvanIsaacok03:55
Hyperion|Sleepbah, is there seriously no way to install ubantu from a command line?03:55
EvanIsaaci did the network restart thing again03:55
EvanIsaacwith everything uncommented03:55
silvertip257ok eXcentra, i was wondering if you would help me learn how to install things such as java & adobe, etc03:55
bleakedbriguyd: and also, after about an hour, any sane person would have canceled the operation, or forced a reboot.03:55
EvanIsaacand is said failed to bring up wlan0 among other things03:55
briguyd_bleaked, i mounted a remote samba drive, and scanned it using banshee03:55
ajmitchAmaranth: no, yours probably cause other issues, due to being bleeding edge03:55
eXcentrasilvertip257, well, the easiest would be to use automatix03:55
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eXcentra!automatix03:55
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ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.03:55
Amaranthajmitch: Indeed.03:55
Amaranthajmitch: Getting cut and all that.03:56
silvertip257eXcentra ok how do i do that =) ?03:56
briguyd_bleaked, its an old (8 year old0 laptop, and a very large collection03:56
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EvanIsaac tpm?brian98? you guys there?03:56
SqueeIs it possible to have multiple Loopback interfaces through /etc/network/interfaces?03:56
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brian98EvanIsaac, I've been there, I would go through the install again step by step.03:56
brian98EvanIsaac, I know it sounds stupid but it's poss you missed something and if you did .......03:57
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eXcentra!automatix > silvertip25703:57
EvanIsaacso it wouldn't screw it up to do it a second time?03:57
brian98Not at all..03:57
bleakedbriguyd, still 24 hours is far too long.. i promise you it's frozen or timed out..  you're wasting your time.03:57
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eXcentrasilvertip257, go to the site and go to "Install" at the left.03:57
brian98EvanIsaac, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.2903:57
silvertip257eXcentra automatix @ the terminal ?03:57
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brian98Is the best resource for a step by step03:57
eXcentrasilvertip257, you have to install it. it's a 3rd party program.03:58
elkbuntueXcentra, please dont promote automatix, it has broken lots of installations needlessly03:58
JavaDeveloper_Hi, I have installed GnuCASH from synaptic, how do I add it to Applications menu? I tried "Add/Remove Applications" but can't find it03:58
eXcentraelkbuntu, really? it's always worked for me :(03:58
silvertip257ok no automatix for me then03:58
hondjeSquee: Yes :)03:58
brian98EvanIsaac, It's worked for me on a number of different installs....03:58
silvertip257eXcentra now what :P03:58
bimberiJavaDeveloper_: not in "Office" ?03:58
JavaDeveloper_bimberi: nope03:58
eXcentraelkbuntu, for future reference, what do you propose as an alternative?03:58
brian98JavaDeveloper_, applications --> alacarte menu editor03:59
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unicsit shows next time you reboot03:59
rredd4does any video player accept m4v format ubuntu?  Are there codecs i can download?03:59
bimberiJavaDeveloper_: ok, right-click on "Applications" and select Edit Menus03:59
elkbuntueXcentra, doing it manually, or there's easyubuntu which is less dangerous imho03:59
EvanIsaacthe thing is is that for my particular card it tells me to install 2 different inf's03:59
adam!media transfer protocol03:59
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EvanIsaacif that means anything to you03:59
brian98EvanIsaac, just install the xp driver03:59
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EvanIsaac how can i tell which one that is?04:00
brian98EvanIsaac, under ndiswrapper of course!04:00
elkbuntueXcentra, automatix defaults to saying 'yes' for questions.. so if something necissary was to get uninstalled accidentally, it would say 'yes' and kill the system :(04:00
boris55ln -s filename04:00
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eXcentraelkbuntu, ouch :/04:00
brian98EvanIsaac, It will be on the CD usually under a windowsxp dir04:00
EvanIsaacwhat do you mean under ndiswrapper04:00
brian98sudo ndiswrapper -i /location_of_your_wireless_driver/your_driver.inf04:00
SpudDoggJack_Sparrow: you here?04:00
brian98EvanIsaac, have a good read of http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.2904:00
JavaDeveloper_bimberi: I dun see "Edit menus"04:00
eXcentrasilvertip257, well, i suggest looking in the ubuntu wiki or ubuntuforums for answers (ie. how to install this or that). gotta eat dinner. :P04:01
hondjeSpudDogg: ln -s <source file> <link you want> in a console04:01
EvanIsaacthe folders i have on the cd are acrobat, doc, ndis5, and utility04:01
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adamcan some1 help me with an MTP mp3 player? I heard linux supports MTP now04:01
bimberiJavaDeveloper_: what version of Ubuntu?04:01
silvertip257ok ty eXcentra04:01
JavaDeveloper_bimberi: 6.0604:01
bimberiJavaDeveloper_: Gnome?04:01
brian98EvanIsaac, whats the card again?04:01
JavaDeveloper_bimberi: yes04:01
EvanIsaacW111T04:01
SpudDogghondje:  when i did this before, i had to create the directory in the same line...now that wont work04:01
EvanIsaacnetgear04:01
bimberiJavaDeveloper_: Applicatoins -> Accessories -> Alacarte Menu Editor04:01
bimberi?04:01
JavaDeveloper_bimberi: yup, then?04:01
brian98EvanIsaac, Netgear what?04:01
EvanIsaacNetgear W111T04:02
hondjeSpudDogg: you'll have to make the target directory before putting a link in it, use the command mkdir04:02
silvertip257would anyone be willing to help me interpret the install instructions from Java ?04:02
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silvertip257*please*04:02
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bimberiJavaDeveloper_: i can't talk you through that, have a try, come back if stuck :)04:02
thoreauputicJavaDeveloper_: or right click on the Applications menu icon, you should see "Edit Menus"04:02
EvanIsaacit's number 19 under N on the supported cards list04:02
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JavaDeveloper_thoreauputic: yes, but I still can't find gnucash, do I have to reboot?04:03
SpudDogghondje: i tried doing it that way, but it ended up putting the target directory inside the newly made directory...instead of the newly made directory being the link, does that make sense?04:03
brian98EvanIsaac, do you have windows drivers for it?04:03
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bimberiJavaDeveloper_: use the menu editor to _add_ gnucash whereever you want in the menu04:03
thoreauputicJavaDeveloper_: you installed gnucash and it isn't in the menu, right?04:03
EvanIsaaci used both the inf's04:03
EvanIsaacwhich i suppose are windows drivers04:03
hondjeSpudDogg: ah, okay. You want the new directory to be a symlink, not a symlink inside the dir, right?04:03
EvanIsaacconsidering this is installed on other windows computers04:03
SpudDogghondje: well, i guess so, yes04:03
thoreauputicbimberi: I have no idea if gnucash hs a .desktop file - you would think it would04:04
Imrahilmy xorg.conf is basically default except for nvidia driver and changed resolution to 1280x1024. the flatpanel uses 75hz instead of the optimal 60hz. make any difference?04:04
brian98EvanIsaac, I don't understand why you need to install two infs, sounds like trouble!04:04
hondjeSpudDogg: If you're where you want the symlink to be, ln -s <source> .  with that dot on the end, and it'll link the source 'here'04:04
bimberithoreauputic: i thought it did too04:04
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thoreauputicbimberi: in which case " killall gnome-panel" might help04:04
EvanIsaacaccording to the list it says to do both of them04:05
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SpudDogghondje: so my command would be 'sudo ln -s <source> . <target> <new dir name>'?04:05
EvanIsaacOther: This driver comes with two sets of .inf and .sys files: athfmwdl and wg111t. Both of these must be installed with their *.inf files. After that, with version 1.7rc1, ndiswrapper can be used as in the case of other drivers; earlier versions of ndiswrapper required load_fw_ar5523 program to be run, but it is not needed anymore. Suspend/resume also works now.04:05
cpk2Imrahil: as long as the monitor supports taht res @75 you should be fine04:05
hondjeSpudDogg: whoa, that's too much. What exactly are you trying to do?04:05
knappHelp, how do I access the gdm configuration? where is it stored?04:05
bimberithoreauputic: yes, although they usually just appear04:05
Dr_willisknapp,  in /etc/ some where.. or use the gdm config tools04:05
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SpudDogghondje: i need a symlink from /lib/modules/<kernel version>/build to /usr/src04:06
knappDr_willis, gdm config tools?04:06
kothzwoohoo.  new install of ubuntu with native bcm43xx drivers.  I feel so, so, so... afraid to reboot :)04:06
thoreauputicbimberi: agreed - sometimes it takes a while on slower machines or if there are a lot of apps in the menus04:06
Dr_willis /etc/gdm/gdm.conf04:06
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knappthanks04:06
hondjeSpudDogg: ln -s /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build /usr/src04:06
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Dr_willisknapp,  theres a control panel/applet/thang/program to set the gdm settings in the menus04:06
SpudDogghondje: i do not think that will work, but im gonna try it04:07
Dr_willisknapp,  :) it pays to explore the menus.04:07
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brian98EvanIsaac, ok, one is for usb and one is for the wireless card itself, it's usb then?04:08
hondjeSpudDogg: cut and paste it, if the directory you're linking from exists, then it will work. make sure you're using `uname -r` with the ` and not '04:08
EvanIsaacyes04:08
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EvanIsaacwhat wireless card??04:08
EvanIsaac:S04:08
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brian98yes04:08
brian98!04:08
SpudDogghondje: it appears as though i need to put the target first04:08
EvanIsaacthe USB is the wireless04:08
brian98ok04:08
hondjeSpudDogg: Why do you think that?04:08
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SpudDogghondje: ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/src/build' to `/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build': File exists04:09
THX-1138Hi. - I have added a group of packages saved from the last install in /usr/var/apt/cache   Using the "Add downloaded packages" in synaptic.  - Synaptic shows them as INSTALLED. - they aren't and i don't want or need all of them. - What should i do?04:09
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SpudDogghondje: dont i want the build folder to point to /usr/src, not the other way around?04:09
hondjeSpudDogg: then the symlink already exists.04:09
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SpudDogghondje: one sec04:09
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amicrawledoes any body know how to configure kmame?04:10
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bruenigTHX-1138, remove the ones you don't want04:10
amicrawlewere to put stuff to make it work ?04:10
brian98EvanIsaac, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=44286404:10
brian98EvanIsaac, your not alone :(#04:10
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hondjeSpudDogg: if you do it as I put above, with /usr/src instead of /usr/src/build, then it will create a symlink directory named build going to the modules directory.04:10
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hondjeSpudDogg: so, for example, cd /usr/src/build would take you to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build04:11
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THX-1138bruenig - How do i use the filter option in synaptic to find them? What happens if Synaptic thinks they are installed and they AREN'T...04:11
amicrawledoes any body  know mame?04:11
Dr_willisamicrawle,  you got mame installed yet?04:11
brian98EvanIsaac, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/69050-ndiswrapper.html04:11
amicrawleyes i do and xmess04:11
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Dr_willisamicrawle,  ive used mame quite a bit.. i only got like 120gb+ of roms :P04:11
EvanIsaacthere's one step in the howto you sent me that's different than the one i used04:11
EvanIsaacso i'm doing it04:11
hondjeSpudDogg: Note, though, that pwd will say that you're in /usr/src/... and not in the /lib04:11
bruenigTHX-1138, not familiar with synaptic, if you want to remove some of the debs, a quick sudo rm whatever.deb will do it via command line04:12
amicrawledr wills do you have a ftp ?04:12
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brian98EvanIsaac, keep me posted!04:12
SpudDogghondje: it needs to be the other way around...i need 'cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build to take me to /usr/src04:12
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Dr_willisamicrawle,  use bittorrent. :P04:12
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Dr_willisamicrawle,  "/etc/xmame/xmamerc"  shows what dirs it looks for by default for the stuff.04:12
amicrawleDr_wills will you go priv  so i can learn ?04:12
bruenigTHX-1138, if it thinks it is installed, you can do a sudo apt-get remove whatever to uninstall it04:12
EvanIsaacwhen i try to do the gksudo gedit /etc/modules it says authentication rejected04:13
Dr_willisamicrawle,  roms go in -- -> /usr/share/games/xmame/roms04:13
hondjeSpudDogg: ah :) then ln -s /usr/src /lib/modules/`uname -r/build or however you want it to be :)04:13
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SpudDogghondje: let me try that out04:13
brian98EvanIsaac, did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG11104:13
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amicrawledo i need sudo privs do that04:13
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deathz0r_!info bitch04:13
ubotuPackage bitch does not exist in any distro I know04:13
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deathz0r_!info bitchx04:13
ubotubitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB04:13
THX-1138bruenig - There are near one HUNDRED packages. - Eep!04:13
EvanIsaacmine is a W111T, not a WG11104:14
Dr_willisamicrawle,  since its not a user owned directory ... logicially.. YES...04:14
deathz0r_ahhh, universe.04:14
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THX-1138Hi Hobbsee.04:14
SpudDogghondje: that gives me a prompt...just a little >04:14
bruenigTHX-1138, if you can find similarities you can use the wildcard, but that is the only way to do it I am pretty sure. If you installed tem all, you are going to have to uninstall and remove them all.04:14
amicrawledo the biso go there to ?04:14
hondjeSpudDogg: it's waiting for the command to finish04:14
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Dr_willisbiso?04:14
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barry_ I'm a windows user, can someone help me learn Ubuntu?04:15
hondjeso, something is missing ... did you use two `'s, or hit / at the end?04:15
Dr_willisbarry_,  start with the Ubuntu guides at the web site. :P04:15
amicrawleyes like neo-geo and jag04:15
brian98barry_ http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper04:15
THX-1138bruenig - thats just it. Synaptic shows amny as installed that aren't. - How do i find them?04:15
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Hobbseehey THX-113804:15
surabachineed help compiling gimmie bar, i get error when trying to run it04:15
brian98EvanIsaac, should be pretty similar04:15
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barry_I've got other questions, drivers04:15
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Dr_willisamicrawle,  those are normally not mame things, (but it can run neo-geo games)  those are mess things. :P  and im not sure what 'jag' you are refering to04:16
EvanIsaachow come my authentication was rejected though04:16
Madpilotbarry_, help.ubuntu.com/community - best place to start. Also, System->Help->System Documentation on your desktop04:16
bruenigthey are in /var/cache/apt04:16
amicrawleatari04:16
Audimagei am having problems playing dvds, when i play them i have no sound...before you ask, my sound is working just fine04:16
amicrawlejag04:16
EvanIsaacwhen i try to do the gksudo gedit /etc/modules it says authentication rejected04:16
surabachine help, i have a major compiling issue with gimmie bar04:16
barry_@willis, man I cannot get my ati drivers working from the ATI site04:16
Dr_willisamicrawle,  thats all 'mess' related.. i dident even think MESS did the atari Jagjaure04:16
Dr_willisbarry_,  i ve never used them from that site.. i follow the !ATI wiki page04:16
Dr_willis!ati04:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:16
amicrawlewhere do i get sudo  in the gui so i can cut and paste the files04:17
EvanIsaacand what do i put if my wireless router has no SSID?04:17
barry_KO, I'll check it out doc04:17
SpudDogghondje: it is still putting the symlink inside the build folder04:17
surabachiget an error when trying to run gimmie bar04:17
Audimageamicrawle, the command cp will copy and paste04:17
cpk2EvanIsaac: any/off04:17
brian98EvanIsaac, thats ok don't mind that error..04:17
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THX-1138Tried to save a bit of bandwidth by copying and reusing apt/cache  has created an interesting puzzle. Synaptic thinks many packages added using the "Add downloded packages" are installed already. - hm04:17
Madpilotamicrawle, you could do 'gksudo nautilus' - but be very, very careful with that. Root privs + GUI = a good way to break your Ubuntu...04:17
EvanIsaacwell i can't go into gedit because of that04:18
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EvanIsaacor should i just ignore that howto and try this one04:18
amicrawleso like   "cp home/amicrawler to usr/share/games/xmame"?04:18
brueniggui, a good way to break anything04:18
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surabachilo04:18
Audimageamicrawle, yes except no to04:18
amicrawlek04:18
Audimageamicrawle, it'd be this...04:18
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brian98use sudo nano /etc/modules04:18
bruenigvim!04:18
Madpilotamicrawle, best to stick with the terminal, yes - "sudo cp /home/amicrawler/foo /usr/share/games/xmame" or whatever04:18
surabachihelp compilin gplease?04:19
Audimagesudo cp /home/amicrawler/ /user/share/games/xmame/04:19
david___where is the file that the package manager reads to find the repositories?04:19
bruenigsurabachi, what are you compiling?04:19
Madpilotdavid___, /etc/apt/sources.list04:19
Audimageerr, user=usr04:19
surabachibruenig, well i already compiled gimmie bar, but i am getting errors trying to run it04:19
brian98bruenig, vim!04:19
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Audimagecan anybody help me get sound working while playing dvds?04:19
amicrawleok sayes no such dir04:20
THX-1138bruenig - isn't Synaptic a facade for apt? Same options, switches, etc, - bruenig - How would the cammand line read to remove those "ghostly" not installed packages?04:20
holzmodemhi, i want to upgrade my knot3 install to beta... but there was only 10 updates, is that right?04:20
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bruenigwhat is gimmi bar?04:20
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bruenigTHX-1138, sudo apt-get remove whatever04:20
thoreauputicMadpilot: I used your wiki iptables explanation to get a handle on how it works - thank you :) I changed one thing though: default DROP policy makes appending rules easier04:20
Dr_willisamicrawle,  or learn to use 'mc' :)04:20
surabachibruenig, its a dock liek app for gnome04:20
surabachibruenig, google gimmie bar to see it04:20
david___Version 0.98 is available for dvd::rip, but my package manager only lets me get 0.52, can someone help?04:20
DarkMageZholzmodem, edgy is in #ubuntu+104:20
bruenigsurabachi, I am trying to see if it is in the repos04:21
surabachibruenig,  check this out to see my problem04:21
surabachibruenig, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26748604:21
Madpilotthoreauputic, not sure which wiki page you're talking about, but I doubt I wrote most of it - was probably just the last person to edit it! ;)04:21
phatxmattwhat games are yall playing?04:21
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thedashso, is there anything I can do about the poor SATA controllers in Ubuntu?04:21
Audimageamicrawle, i am trying to talk to you in another room to explain it04:21
DarkMageZphatxmatt, quake 304:21
thoreauputicMadpilot: ah, perhaps - IptablesHowto I think04:21
THX-1138bruenig - How would i add a wild card to automate test for installation and the removal of nearly one hundred packages?04:21
phatxmattany awesome04:21
kothzI'm playing Synaptic Package Manager.  It's riveting.04:21
phatxmattthoreauputic: i ordered quake 3 for linux on cd from amazon04:21
Madpilotthedash, you could file a bug, with as much detail as you can supply. bugs.ubuntu.com04:22
phatxmattthoreauputic any other way to get it...nice nick btw04:22
sethksurabachi, you are missing a module at the python level.  not sure where it should come from, though04:22
bruenigTHX-1138, it is unlikely, but if you know all of the apps that start with a certain thing you want to remove, you could use it to help you out a little bit04:22
EvanIsaacbrian98: when i add ndiswrapper to the list, do i reboot?04:22
sethkthedash, you mean poor drivers?04:22
thoreauputicphatxmatt: that's nice.... why are you telling me? :)04:22
briguyd_phatxmatt, did you have quake3 for windows?04:22
phatxmattno i didnt04:22
briguyd_ok, good04:22
phatxmattwell i did a while back04:22
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phatxmatthaha i was just wondering what games people are playing on nix these days04:22
SpudDogghondje: are you still here?04:22
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brian98EvanIsaac, thats just to load ndiswrapper the next time you boot, should be loaded now04:22
briguyd_because theres a way to install from that, without buying a linux-specific CD04:23
hondjeSpudDogg: barely ;)04:23
thedashI am told that my problem with my SATA drive is because of poor SATA controllers, however, I have neither the knowledge nor skill to back up or remedy this problem04:23
briguyd_phatxmatt, im playing nethack04:23
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SpudDogghondje: this is so frustrating04:23
brian98phatxmatt, http://my.opera.com/Mr%20Green/blog/show.dml/171040 :)04:23
bruenigneverball04:23
thoreauputicphatxmatt: mostly I play multi-user notepad04:23
sethkthedash, no, the problem is with the device drivers, not the controllers04:23
briguyd_thoreauputic, irc?04:23
sethkthedash, give me details.04:23
EvanIsaacwell how can i configure my wireless card if it still doesn't show me wlan0?04:23
thoreauputicbriguyd: you got it :)04:23
briguyd_thoreauputic, what do i win?04:23
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surabachibruenig,  any ideas?04:23
thoreauputicbriguyd: a copy of Windows ME ;P04:24
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thedashwell, brand new Seagate 400GB SATA drive, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, does not function at any speed, and crashes my computer04:24
briguyd_what a great prize04:24
brian98EvanIsaac, iwconfig04:24
thoreauputicewww04:24
thoreauputic:))04:24
brian98EvanIsaac, any wireless extensions?04:24
sethkthedash, it's a driver problem.04:24
THX-1138bruenig - That will thin things down a bit. - still a puzzle isn't it? - Ach! - recycling your saved /var/cache/apt/archive introduces errors and is a bad idea and sadly costly for a great organization like canonical.04:24
sethkthedash, you can try the most recent release of the kernel from kernel.org, see if it's been fixed yet.04:24
briguyd_i wish everyone had windows ME, then the world would spontaneously combust04:24
THX-1138thoreauputic - any ideas?04:24
Madpilotthedash, do the drive & mobo work together in other operating systems?04:24
sethkthedash, I have one box with that problem, but it's been about a month since I tried updating the kernel.04:24
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bruenigmy thing would be to find it in the repos or a deb of it. I guess I could suggest you install build-essential if you havent. other than that there are too many possibilities and I am unfamiliar with the app, so it is probably unlikely I could help.04:24
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thedashMadpilot:: yes, they work fine in windows04:25
THX-1138I badly wish it worked.04:25
acersaleshi is there a way to have automated updates ? in ubuntu  ?04:25
thoreauputicTHX-1138: I frequently have ideas but since I just got back from the corner shop and am drinking a coffee I missed your question04:25
EvanIsaacno wireless extensions04:25
brian98EvanIsaac, argh04:25
acersalesi have to update everyday manually04:25
jiShacersales: it already has auto updates.04:25
thedashsethk:: I know little about linux to not really have any knowledge of kernel upgradingness04:25
surabachineed help with this: http://www.beatniksoftware.com/gimmie/04:25
acersalesjiSh, but it asks about updates04:25
THX-1138thoreauputic - In Synaptic there is an option to add downloaded packages04:25
sethksurabachi, your problem is with a missing python module.  you can install other stuff for the next 20 years and it won't fix anything.04:25
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bruenigTHX-1138, if you wanted to keep some of your old debs from /var/cache/apt, why didn't you get those debs and sudo dpkg -i them instead of just copying them into that directory?04:25
Madpilotthedash, my 120Gb SATA drive has always worked flawlessly in Ubuntu; file a bug like I suggested and see what feedback you get... not sure what else to suggest, though...04:26
acersalesjiSh, doesnt install it automatic04:26
czer323_God, i hate aptitude errors.04:26
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sethkthedash, upgrading the kernel is simple04:26
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THX-1138I resused the apt/archives from a prior install. 100s of megabytes04:26
thoreauputicTHX-1138: ah, I didn't know that - I only use apt and aptitude04:26
brian98EvanIsaac, I'm sorry but I'm out of ideas.... Maybe pick up a pci card... 30$ ? sorry maybe someone else could help ?04:26
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kothzYick.  Never let an automated system willy-nilly auto-upgrade you :)04:26
sethkthedash, pm me if you want to attempt it.04:26
surabachisethk, how do i get the missing file?04:26
AudimageWhen i play dvds i have no sound, any ideas?04:26
EvanIsaaci don't think this can take a pci card04:26
cpk2thedash: apt-get does kernel upgrades04:26
EvanIsaacwell04:26
Gevaudan82Hello all...I have an ATI mobility 5200 card...I've installed the proprietary drivers from ati.com...i get the correct resolution but no 3d support when running fgl_glxgears...what am i doing wrong?04:26
surabachisethk, how do i get the missing python module?04:27
brian98EvanIsaac, is it a laptop?04:27
sethksurabachi, I don't know, but it's obvious from the message you posted that the error  is coming from python and is about missing python code.04:27
bruenigTHX-1138, right, you should have just sudo dpkg -i them in order to install the ones you wanted. Kind of stupid to just copy them in to the new /var/cache/apt04:27
EvanIsaacpcmai is what my wired internet is coming  out of right?04:27
EvanIsaacyes it is04:27
thoreauputicTHX-1138: I remember rescuing a broken debian install like that with much use of dpkg and apt-get -f install04:27
sethksurabachi, give me that url again, I closed the paste window04:27
THX-1138It has to be costing Canonical a LOT of money. to download them wioth the thousands of users04:27
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brian98EvanIsaac, ok, well persevere then..04:27
amicrawlehow do i add the user root to my login?04:27
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brian98!root04:27
Dr_willisamicrawle,  best to learn to use sudo properly04:27
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:27
thoreauputicamicrawle: in general, you don't and you shouldn't04:28
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surabachisethk,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26748604:28
sethkamicrawle, that makes no sense.  you have a login, and root is another user.  do you mean the group root?04:28
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THX-1138A prompt "Would you like to copy you downloaded packages to a second mirrored directory" - would be cool04:28
EvanIsaacok thanks a lot for your help04:28
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surabachisethk,  what python mudule am i missing?04:28
AudimageI am unable to play dvds with sound---need help04:28
brian98EvanIsaac, sorry I couldn't help any better04:28
MatirSo I have a Fujitsu Stylistic Tablet PC on which I'd like to put ubuntu, but it has no USB CD boot capability... anyone have thoughts on other ways to approach this?04:28
sethksurabachi, _egg04:28
EvanIsaacit's ok04:28
EvanIsaacyou've helped more than anyone else04:28
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EvanIsaaci usually end up in here waiting for a response for 1 1/2 hrs04:29
shriphaniMatir, configure your bios to boot om usb04:29
brian98Matir: 1 gig mem stick04:29
EvanIsaacand leave04:29
sethksurabachi, I just googled for python and _egg and I find a bunch of stuff.  read, you'll find the answer there I'm sure.04:29
surabachisethk, can i get that in apt-get?04:29
brian98EvanIsaac, if you do keep at it you will get it working04:29
sethksurabachi, I don't know, but I suspect not.04:29
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surabachisethk, how can i get the egg04:29
shriphanifrom ^04:29
brian98EvanIsaac, if you type tail /var/log/syslog04:29
brian98can you see anything about the card?04:30
Matirshriphani, brian98, it doesn't seem that this machine will boot from USB at all... at least, not from USB flash or CD04:30
Audimagesurabachi, you can get python by sudo apt-get install python04:30
sethksurabachi, find the home page for gimmie04:30
shriphaniMatir, did you try ?04:30
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AudimageI need help getting dvds to play with sound, anybody?04:30
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EvanIsaacit just said a bunch of stuff about touchpad04:31
shriphanitry as in fiddle with the bios04:31
amicrawlehow doi enable root ?04:31
hondjeAudimage: what are you using to play dvds?04:31
shriphaniamicrawle, sudo04:31
sethkamicrawle, root is not disabled, so you don't enable it.04:31
shriphanisudo followed by command04:31
thoreauputicAudimage: you need to be more specific I think - like what sound card, what errors, what have you tried...04:31
amicrawleand my password will not work  for root04:31
Matirshriphani, yes, I've checked the BIOS... boot options are floppy and hard drive (though it has no built-in floppy, it has a proprietary connector for one, but i don't have the drive)04:31
THX-1138thoreauputic - Would i be considered a bother in with that question in the developer channel? (Ipromise to be polite.)04:31
sethkamicrawle, the root password is not set.04:31
brian98EvanIsaac,  type nano /var/log/syslog04:31
Audimageihondje i have vlc, mplayer, and xine installed04:31
sethkamicrawle, of course not, you aren't root.04:31
brian98EvanIsaac, then search for wlan04:31
amicrawlei want to su to root04:31
shriphaniMatir, you are supposed to change that04:31
brian98type ctrl w04:31
thoreauputicTHX-1138: I think best not to ask question in -devel04:31
sethkamicrawle, you can set the root password.  some people claim that using sudo is better, although that's not really ture.04:31
sethks/ture/true/04:31
shriphaniamicrawle, create a root account04:32
Audimageamicrawle type sudo -s04:32
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Matirshriphani, the ONLY boot options are floppy and hard drive, as I said.04:32
Audimagethen type in you're password04:32
THX-1138thoreuputic - Okay,04:32
thoreauputicTHX-1138: you could try the ubuntu-users mailing list04:32
amicrawleok04:32
EvanIsaacctrl w doesn't do anything04:32
shriphaniMatir, you cant configure the bios ?04:32
thoreauputicTHX-1138: there are some clueful people on the list04:32
Matirshriphani, there is no BIOS boot option for USB04:32
amicrawledid;nt ask 4 104:32
sethkshriphani, the root _account_ is already there.  the system won't even run without a root account04:32
THX-1138thoreauputic - You have done it again. - I'll do that - Thank You.04:32
brian98Matir: http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm04:32
amicrawleyes i know that04:33
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shriphaniyou could try the floppy then04:33
Audimageamicrawle, that means you typed it in earlier04:33
shriphanialthough no idea how that works04:33
thoreauputicTHX-1138: pretty high volume list - you might get a fast answer there but be prepared for a lot of mail :)04:33
thedashif I am adding a drive to the fstab, what do the <dump> and <pass> mean?04:33
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sethkthedash, man mount will tell you04:33
THX-1138ROFLMAO - Why would *anyone* use closed source?04:33
amicrawlei use to be a suse user04:33
amicrawlethey have a su root  gui interface04:33
sethkthedash, briefly the pass controls the order of checking for clean file systems at boot time04:34
AudimageI cannot get sound to work on DVDs with Xine or MPlayer04:34
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Dr_willisamicrawle,  like gksudo progrramname04:34
THX-1138Very cool.04:34
THX-1138Thanks again thoreauputic.04:34
thoreauputicAudimage: have you checked the sound settings in alsamixer?04:34
sethkthedash, don't worry about dumping, it is mostly irrelevant04:34
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silvertip257HEY sethk04:34
thoreauputicTHX-1138: np - good luck :)04:34
sethksilvertip257, how is it going?04:34
Audimagethoreauputic how do i check sounds there04:34
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silvertip257sethk well at least I'm currently running Ubuntu 6.06.104:35
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sethksilvertip257, that's good (I guess)  :)04:35
thedashmy drive is in ext3 atm, [/dev/sda1    /media/Main ext3  defaults  0    0] , but if I mount it w/o mount point, it says wrong fs type04:35
thoreauputicAudimage: type alsamixer in a terminal, use the arrow keys and tab to navigate, m to mute/unmute04:35
amicrawlesayes missing command to run  "gksudo ?04:35
silvertip257sethk:  I'd like to learn how 2 install prgms, but i'm not having luck w/ online docs04:35
Flannelamicrawle: are you running kubuntu or xubuntu?04:35
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amicrawlek04:35
deathz0r_in ubuntu, is there a process monitor  app like windows task manager?04:35
deathz0r_like a visual one on gnome.04:36
sethkthedash, can you mount from the command line, without using fstab?04:36
brian98EvanIsaac,  type pico /var/log/syslog04:36
Flannelamicrawle: in kubuntu, kdesu, in xubuntu gksu04:36
shriphaniMatir, http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/wolves/2004-October/010325.html04:36
FlannelEvanIsaac, brian98, nano not pico04:36
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shriphanithat might help04:36
brian98Flannel: whats the difference?04:36
bruenigdeathz0r_, System>administration>system monitor04:36
sethkdeathz0r_, there are several linux process monitors.  top works at the command line level (well, the terminal level, which is a bit better)04:36
thoreauputicdeathz0r_: Sstem -Admin-System Monitor04:36
sethkdeathz0r_, there are others with the various desktops04:36
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thoreauputicumm System04:36
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deathz0r_thanks04:36
EvanIsaac what am i supposed to see here04:36
Flannelbrian98: pico isn't Free, and isn't in ubuntu, nano is te Free clone, although, 'pico' might be a symlink to nano04:36
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sethkdeathz0r_, ps at the command line is the most powerful but of course has a bit of a learning curve.04:36
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thedashsethk:: no, it says it can't read the superblock04:37
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shriphanieyyup Matir that sounds like what you need04:37
sethkthedash, if you are 100% sure it is an ext3 file system, then you can try to repair it with fsck.ext304:37
amicrawlekdesu does not bring any thing up in the gui04:37
Matirshriphani, thanks, I'll take a look04:37
EvanIsaacmaybe i should just switch this back to windows, i'm not sure if it's worth being in the support room all week just to get my wifi working :\04:37
brian98Flannel: it's symlinked by default04:37
roflpandaYah I've screwed up like 3 times with the command line.04:37
bruenig!windows04:37
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm04:37
roflpandaTrust me, I know nothing about any of this crap.04:37
shriphanihttp://btmgr.webframe.org/04:37
roflpandaXMMS: Underoath - There Could Be Nothing After This04:37
sethkroflpanda, like three times?  Not three times?04:37
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FlannelEvanIsaac: you tried the wiki wifi docs?04:38
roflpandaWell, it's estimation.,04:38
brian98Flannel: sorry, redhat habits die hard....04:38
shriphaniMatir, that is its homepage04:38
EvanIsaac yes04:38
EvanIsaacyes04:38
silvertip257sethk did u read my last msg04:38
EvanIsaacyes04:38
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sethksilvertip257, stuff flies by so fast tonight.  what do you need to install?04:38
shriphanibtmgr.webframe.org04:38
EvanIsaac  :|04:38
Audimagethoreauputic that iddn't work04:38
thedashsethk:: that didn't work either04:38
thedashsuperblock couldn't be read04:38
thoreauputicAudimage: what didn't work? There are many posible adjustments in alsamixer04:39
sethkthedash, there are tools for ext3 that can attempt to recover it.  there are redundent superblocks written when the file system is created04:39
roflpandamsg nickserv register swanks04:39
silvertip257sethk:  i'd like to start off w/ something easy like (for the heck of it) installing stuff like java & such04:39
roflpandawhoops04:39
sethkthedash, how did it get damaged?04:39
thedashsethk:: there is nothing on it atm04:39
thedashits brand new04:39
sethkthedash, then do mkfs.ext3 on it04:39
thedashbut I did format it in ext3, and it was recognized for a bit04:39
roflpandaOk, sweet.04:39
Gevaudan82Hello all...I have an ATI mobility 5200 card...I've installed the proprietary drivers from ati.com...i get the correct resolution but no 3d support when running fgl_glxgears...what am i doing wrong?04:39
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sethksilvertip257, java is actually one of the trickier things to install.  It is in the repositories04:39
thoreauputicGeneral Announcemnet: Saying "that didn't work" is not helpful and means nothing to those trying to troubleshoot for you04:40
shriphaniMatir, did you look at the home page of btmgr ?04:40
silvertip257oh boy sethk has got me confusedddd04:40
Dr_willisGevaudan82,  why did you use those?  i always follow the !ati wiki page.04:40
Audimagethoreauputic, it isn't that the volume isn't up, it is that i have no sound working at all04:40
Dr_willis!ati04:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:40
sethksilvertip257, how?04:40
roflpandayah SOUND04:40
thedashsethk:: on the whole drive?  or should I fdisk to make a partition first?  does it matter?04:40
Gevaudan82silvertip256: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-sdk && sudo update-alternatives --config java04:40
AsymmetryCan someone explain to me how Ubuntu orders SCSI/SATA drives?04:40
crimsunAudimage: what's the issue?04:40
Gevaudan82Dr_willis: i did not have much success with those pages...no 3d support04:40
roflpandaHow do I get the stupid sound to work for EVERYTHING at once?04:40
silvertip257sethk i just looked @ something on the web bout repositories & i was like wth ?04:40
thoreauputicAudimage: what happens if you run   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  ?04:40
Audimagei cannot get sound to work with dvds in xine and mplayer04:40
roflpandaI want to listen to music/watch youtube04:40
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AsymmetryIt's mapping drive 1 to SCSI 3, drive 3 to SCSI 1, and drive 4 to SCSI 2.04:41
unicssda sdb for SATA04:41
crimsunroflpanda: that's a pipe dream unless your hardware supports it, like an SB Live/Audigy04:41
roflpandaI've tried that alsa thing.04:41
roflpandaI have a via something or other.04:41
sethkthedash, it's unusual to use the entire device for a file system, but there is nothing wrong with doing it that way.  using fdisk might be easier, because lots of people don't know that you can use the entire device, and not have a partition table, and they'll confuse you about what arguments to use for various commands04:41
crimsunroflpanda: sorry, you're screwed.04:41
Dr_willisI like my Audigy card.04:41
roflpandahaha04:41
roflpandaThat's what I thought.04:41
Asymmetryunics, I know what the drive points are. I just don't get how it orders them.04:41
Dr_willisCreative has some nice $30 cards out as well.04:41
sethksilvertip257, the synaptic tool is a very easy to use installation tool.  run it, and use its search, and search for java.04:41
crimsunspend the lunch money and get a junk-end SB Live04:41
EvanIsaacwhat advantages are in an OS where something that takes 15 seconds on windows requires so much time on linux??04:41
thoreauputicAudimage: is it a commercial DVD? Have you read the restricted formats wiki?04:41
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silvertip257ok will do sethk04:41
sethksilvertip257, it's very easy to install almost everything just using that program.04:41
thoreauputic!restricted > Audimage04:41
Gevaudan82!ati04:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:42
roflpandaSo via doesn't support more than one sound.04:42
Audimagethoreauputic, it says device is busy04:42
silvertip257ok sethk ty04:42
roflpandaOr more than one device using sound.04:42
unicsmaybe you should look in the bios04:42
thoreauputicAudimage: do you have libdvdcss installed?04:42
crimsunroflpanda: some of the newer Via chipsets do with varying degrees of crapitude04:42
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unicsusually in the same order04:42
thoreauputicAudimage: do you have several sound apps running?04:42
roflpandaI honestly don't know how old these chipsets are.04:42
Audimageyes04:42
Asymmetryunics, usually is an awesome word that never works for me.04:42
Audimageno04:42
thoreauputicAudimage: what does  pidof esd  say ?04:42
roflpandaHow come it works in Windows?04:42
Gevaudan82Dr_willis: maybe the problem is i don't meet the prereqs...i don't have a radeon card but a firegl mobility 5220 mobility04:42
roflpandaNot that I care.04:42
crimsunroflpanda: software mixing.04:42
roflpandaAhh04:43
unics:)) then it's sure that in the same order04:43
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brian98EvanIsaac, You will find quite a few.. Consider the wireless card is probably the only thing that didn't install04:43
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Asymmetryunics, Excuse me?04:43
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Audimagethoreauputic, how do i find out04:43
roflpandaWell I fell upon Ubuntu on accident.04:43
Dr_willisGevaudan82,  my x200 wasent listed as working either.. but it works.. try it and see..? other then that.. check the ubuntu wikis/forums i guess04:43
ArrenLexOw, that must have hurt.04:43
AsymmetryAnyone else want to give this question a try?04:43
roflpandaAnd my windows crashed completely.04:43
EvanIsaacyeah, but i'm not into laptops without wifi :S04:43
brian98EvanIsaac, you throw xp at a machine with no device drivers on cd and tell me how long it takes to find the right drivers sometimes.04:43
thoreauputicAudimage:  type  "pidof esd " in a terminal ( no quotes)04:43
roflpandaSo I decided to give this a try.04:43
sethkroflpanda, if it works in windows, either your linux configuration is wrong, or there is something buggy in the linux support for that particular sound hardware04:43
Audimagei did, and i got another $ thats it04:44
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thoreauputicAudimage: if you see a number, try " killall esd" and restart your DVD04:44
EvanIsaacyeah but i've been here since 530 to around this time04:44
Audimagethat is why i asked04:44
EvanIsaacsince tuesday04:44
roflpandaActually sound didn't work in windows because I had the wrong drivers for it.04:44
sethkbrian98, by and large windows does a good job of finding drivers04:44
thoreauputicAudimage: OK esd isn't the issue then04:44
Audimageno process killed04:44
roflpandaWhich is why, while reinstalling windows and the disc died on me.04:44
roflpandaAnd then UBUNTU04:44
EvanIsaacjust trying to get my wifi to work04:44
thoreauputicAudimage: which program is telling you "device busy" ?04:44
thedashsethk:: it says the drive is in use by the system?04:44
sethkthedash, what did you run?04:45
brian98sethk, I have seen it being both excellent and both terrible...04:45
EvanIsaacand i've gotten nowhere04:45
thedashjust the mkfs.ext304:45
roflpandaI should have read up on ubuntu first.04:45
silvertip257well ty sethk, but i'm tired & i'll work w/ ubuntu some other day or night =D04:45
sethkthedash, you have to give it an argument, such as    mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdq104:45
EvanIsaacjust hours of my time wasted and me wasting other people's time just for me to still get nowhere04:45
roflpandaOr linux for that matter.04:45
silvertip257au revoir!04:45
Audimagethoreauputic cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp04:45
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sethkthedash, of course it isn't q, but you see what I mean hopefully04:45
thedashsethk:: well, I did that04:45
brian98sethk, I recently setup a fujitsu siemens laptop with ubuntu and it worked out of the box..04:45
sethkthedash, that's not what you said04:46
thoreauputicAudimage: ah - so something has grabbed /dev/dsp - are you running skype ?04:46
Audimagethor no04:46
sethkthedash, it's hard to tell you what you are doing wrong when you don't say what you are doing04:46
thedashits sda1 in this case, as its a SATA drive04:46
thoreauputicAudimage: or are you running a game?04:46
roflpandaOh and in Konversation adding a new konsole and then ending it crashes the whole system.04:46
Audimagethor, i am running xine, firefox, and gaim04:46
Audimageand terminal04:46
sethkbrian98, I have a fujitsu laptop I installed it on recently also.  found the wireless lan with no problems.04:46
brian98sethk, anyway thats one for offtopic me thinks :)04:46
Audimagetaht is all04:46
thoreauputicAudimage: some program is hogging the /dev/dsp04:46
roflpandaOr rather, konversation.04:46
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EvanIsaacso there's no GUI way for me to get my USB adapter working???04:46
Audimagethoreauputic, any suggestions:04:47
roflpandaso there's no way i can get everything to use sound at once with my soundcard huh?04:47
sethkthedash, ok, but I thought you said you had problems with the sata drive?04:47
thoreauputicAudimage: what happens if you exit those programs ?04:47
Audimage?04:47
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sethkthedash, try this:    mount | grep sda04:47
roflpandaThat sucks.04:47
Audimagei can't exit gaim, i am using it to talk in here04:47
thedashsethk:: I do, that is what I am trying to fix04:47
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thoreauputicAudimage: do you have a flash page open in FF ?04:47
Stevois there a command in cli that'll test your software?  (ie: running properly with necessary dependencies, etc)04:47
sethkthedash, see if anything from sda is in use.04:47
EvanIsaaci miss windows :((04:47
thedashnope,. nothing04:47
sethkthedash, if it's a driver problem, you can't fix it that way.04:47
brian98sethk, my point is with the same laptop if you didn't have the driver cd for that laptop for windows you would need to do a good bit of searching around the place. FSC laptops seem to be quite linux friendly04:47
godtvisk1nif i remove hda, will hdb be changed to hda?04:47
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sethkbrian98, sure, that is sometimes true.04:47
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thedashsethk:: I am just trying to get it to show on the system again04:48
Audimagethoreauputic, i just got hella static when i typed taht in04:48
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brian98EvanIsaac, don't give up!!04:48
roflpandaSo I've had to reinstall ubuntu 3 times.04:48
roflpandaHaha.04:48
b-_-dcan i get ubuntu in tar form?04:48
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Audimagethor, no i didn't04:48
Audimageonly the ubuntu site04:48
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Stevoif you miss windows then go back.04:48
sethkthedash, if you do:     ls /dev/sda*         does anything show up?04:48
EvanIsaacwhen it says use -e to remove how do i remove?04:48
roflpandaI don't miss Windows, I like ubuntu.04:48
st3v3dndI'm running Dapper and have an ati radeon 9200, have the ATI drivers installed through EasyUbuntu, and xgl is enabled in my xorg.conf file, but whenever I say go and look through the screensavers, the 3D ones send the processor straight to 100%. Any ideas where I can start?04:48
sethkb-_-d, it would be a mite difficult to install from a tarball.04:49
thedashsethk:: aye, /dev/sda and /dev/sda104:49
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brian98EvanIsaac, is it modprobe -e ndiswrapper04:49
thoreauputicAudimage: you mean you got a "static" sound from  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ? that's good - means your sound is working04:49
roflpandaIt makes me feel like I'm learning something for some reason, using ubuntu04:49
Stevoi like ubuntu pretty well.  i ran Fedora for a couple years.04:49
Audimagethor, i coulda told you taht04:49
thedashsethk:: I am writing the fs to the drive now04:49
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sethkthedash, ok04:49
EvanIsaacwould that remove ndiswrapper?04:49
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b-_-dsethk that is how i installed gentoo04:49
Audimagethor, i've been listening to music all day04:49
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EvanIsaaci just want to remove the drivers i attempted to install04:49
roflpandaI'm listening to music. No sound=me in windows.04:49
sethkb-_-d, you have to install the boot loader, which can't be installed from a tarball, unless you want to boot from a floppy or cd04:49
brian98EvanIsaac, is it modprobe -r ndiswrapper04:49
roflpandaVery long last couple of months.04:49
thoreauputicAudimage: *sigh* you really need to learn  jow to ask questions04:49
b-_-dubuntu looks cool and i want to try it04:50
roflpandaI need music to survive.04:50
roflpandaIt is pretty cool.04:50
brian98EvanIsaac,  modprobe -r ndiswrapper04:50
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sethkb-_-d, so install it using the way it is designed to be installed.04:50
thoreauputicAudimage: getting intelligent info from you is like getting blood from a stone04:50
Audimagethoreauputic, i cannot get sound to work on dvds, i have sound working everywhere else, but when i play a dvd i have no audio at all04:50
roflpandaYou should definitley read up on linux.04:50
thedashsethk:: dmesg returns this: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/383604:50
roflpandaBecause I'm screwin' things up left and right.04:50
brian98EvanIsaac, There is usually no reason to remove modules, but some buggy modules require it.  Your kernel may not support removal of modules.04:50
thoreauputicAudimage: did you install libdvdcss ?04:50
roflpandaMake sure you know what you are doing, and read all the wiki's and docs and everything.04:50
brian98thats from the man page04:50
Audimagethoreauputic, i said from the begining taht i couldn't get sound to play on dvds04:50
EvanIsaacit says netwg11t is already installed. use -e to remove it??04:50
Audimagethoreauptuic, yes04:50
Audimagethor, i can  play dvds, just no sound04:51
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EvanIsaachow do i remove it??04:51
sethkAudimage, you should develop a fondness for charlie chaplin04:51
dennis_anyone have any luck getting a firewire enclosure with a hard disc inside mounted ? on a FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh controller04:51
Audimage:)04:51
thoreauputicAudimage: you can play CDs with sound?04:51
godtviskenIf I remove my hda harddrive, will my hdb harddrive be renamed to hda?04:51
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Audimagethor, lemme check04:51
brian98EvanIsaac,  modprobe -r ndiswrapper04:51
Dr_willisdennis_,  load the right modules. and it should show up as a scsi device.04:51
sethkgodtvisken, no04:51
EvanIsaaci already tried that :|04:52
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livingtm#initng04:52
sethkgodtvisken, not unless you change the cables around (for properly installed EIDE) or the master/slave jumpers (for older IDE or improperly configured eide)04:52
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godtviskensethk: i think my MBR is on hda, even though it's windows. because i removed it, and then grub no longer came up. when i put it back, it came up. how can i have it removed and still have grub come up?04:52
brian98EvanIsaac,  sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper04:52
b-_-dcan someone04:52
sethkgodtvisken, you can make hdb into hda, but simply removing hda won't do it.04:52
brian98Maybe it's not loaded then04:52
mattva01Ok, i have a bad situation04:52
dennis_Dr_willis, I've tried modprobe ohci1394, ieee1394, and sbp2 : then hotplugging the devic04:53
b-_-dcan someone    cat /proc/filesystems | grep reiser404:53
sethkgodtvisken, you need to reinstall grub onto the MBR, which you can do by booting the live cd or a rescue cd04:53
roflpandaI'd really like sound to play for more than one prog at once. Oh well, haha.04:53
roflpandaMultitask!04:53
EvanIsaacit says it's still installed ?!?!04:53
Audimagethoreauputic, no i cna't04:53
Audimage*can't04:53
EvanIsaac:|:|:||::|::|04:53
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sethkb-_-d, ubuntu supports reiserfs, bugs and all, if that's what you want to know04:53
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b-_-dthanks04:53
Dr_willis:P04:53
godtviskensethk: so does that mean installing grub on hdb?04:53
AudimageThoreauputic, think i might be missing a sound cable from my optical device to my sound device?04:53
roflpandaDr_wills what kind of sound card do you have?04:54
thoreauputicAudimage: do you have an analogue ( wired) player ? is there a cable from your player?04:54
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roflpandaI have an onboard via soundcard.04:54
thoreauputicAudimage: possible04:54
Audimagethor, lemme check that, that is what i was just thinking04:54
mattva01we have a apple G3 that we want to install ubuntu on . The system clock is set to 1904 so gnome crashes when you start from live cd04:54
sethkgodtvisken, you can, but it won't do any good.  the bios looks at the mbr only on hda.  some never BIOS have more flexibility, however04:54
EvanIsaacso there's no way for me to remove them?04:54
b-_-di want to use my reiser4 formated disk04:54
Dr_willisroflpanda,  Audigy2ZS04:54
amicrawlehow do i cp a hold dir and every thing in it04:54
thoreauputicAudimage: you can choosedigital uotput - this is quite common04:54
roflpandaI guess Audigy is the only thing that handles that, huh?04:54
roflpandaXMMS: Underoath - Casting Such A Thin Shadow04:54
sethkamicrawle, cp -av /somewhere /somewhere/else04:55
Dr_willisroflpanda,  i imagine about any decent sound card can do it.04:55
mattva01we cant boot up the mac OS , so is there anyway to change the system clock at startup04:55
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surabachisethk, i moved the _egg04:55
roflpandaI have alsamixer and all that installed.04:55
mattva01or with a bootable disk04:55
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surabachisethk,  now i got a new error04:55
sethkamicrawle, the v part makes it noisy, the a part (of -av) makes it copy subdirectories, links, permissions, etc.04:55
EvanIsaacIS THERE ANY WAY TO REMOVE THE DRIVERS I TRIED TO INSTALL FROM NDISWRAPPER?!?!?!?!?04:55
roflpandaDr_willis, i was under the impression you can't.04:55
Audimagethor, how do i do that04:55
sethksurabachi, that's progress, I guess. what's the new error?04:55
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: stop shouting04:55
roflpandaUnless you make every device go to alsa instead of that other thing.04:55
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sethkEvanIsaac, drivers are just files, and can be erased.04:55
Dr_willisroflpanda,  my sb live, and older cards handles it fine. :P04:55
thoreauputicAudimage: in the app theres usually an option for digital output04:56
roflpandaDo you have it set up for alsa or esd?04:56
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EvanIsaacif i didn't type in caps, i couldn't express my frustration very well04:56
EvanIsaacbecause i've used all my free time all week trying to get this to work04:56
surabachisethk,  go back to this link and look at the last post04:56
Asymmetryi need someone to try and help me figure out why my sata drives arent ordered correctly in the dapper dvd text installer. or any dapper installer for tha tmatter04:56
surabachisethk, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26748604:56
EvanIsaacand i really want this to work04:56
roflpandaI've spent the last 2 days trying to figure this out. Haha04:56
Dr_willisroflpanda,  ive not had to set up anything.04:56
sethkroflpanda, those are not exclusive.  you can be using snd and using alsa04:56
Dr_willisroflpanda,  it all just worked fine04:56
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thoreauputicEvanIsaac: I guess you've read the wifi wiki pages, right?04:56
thoreauputic!wifi04:57
roflpandaWell whenever I try and play youtube and listen to mp3's, youtube gets no sound but xmms does.04:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:57
EvanIsaacand it would be just fine if i had progress, but i have had no progress whatsoever04:57
sethksurabachi, looks like the same error to me.04:57
EvanIsaacyes04:57
EvanIsaacof course i have04:57
roflpandaI feel like I'm doing something wrong.04:57
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: just checking :)04:57
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surabachisethk,  really?04:57
EvanIsaaci would like to know how to remove something from ndiswrapper04:57
sjbrownroflpanda, there's a bug in the flash config04:57
sethkEvanIsaac, don't panic, it won't get you anywhere04:57
roflpandaa bugeth?04:57
sethksurabachi, can't find module named _egg04:57
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EvanIsaaci've been calm all week04:57
sjbrownroflpanda, google "flash ubuntu sound"04:57
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EvanIsaacand haven't gotten anwhere04:57
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: what are you using? Network manager or the standard /etc/network/interfaces stuff?04:58
EvanIsaaci've tried both04:58
mattva01can anyone help me?04:58
sethkEvanIsaac, then type calm letters.  :)  I'm not sure where you are, exactly, but as I already said, you can delete drivers, which is what you most recently asked04:58
sjbrownit's just a matter of renaming a file or putting in a symlink or something04:58
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thedashI am still having problems with my SATA drive04:58
EvanIsaacwell if it can't detect my wireless after i install the drivers04:58
amicrawleDr_wills are the neo-geo  in rom format not bin  becuse mame want .bin i got ,rom04:58
EvanIsaacobviously i don't need them04:58
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: you know that nm only works if you comment out /etc/network/interfaces except loopback, right?04:58
roflpandaHow doth i fix this?04:58
sethkthedash, of course.  you've done nothing that has any possibility of fixing it.  I did tell you what you need to do, quite a while ago.04:58
surabachiSethk, read the last post04:58
EvanIsaacwhat is nm?04:58
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thedasha google search of the error returned this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=27860304:59
surabachisethk, it now says soemthign about sexy04:59
thoreauputicnetwork manager04:59
sethksurabachi, give me the url?04:59
mattva01can anyone help me? please?04:59
surabachisethk, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26748604:59
godtviskensethk: so then i really need to make hdb into hda?04:59
thedashsethk:: by all means, try to explain something that I might understand, and you will vastly improve the possibility of my fixing it04:59
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: nm, network manager and nm-applet ( the usual combination04:59
surabachisethk, read last post!04:59
sjbrownthoreauputic, no, it's not.  nm is for extracting symbols from bin files04:59
surabachidamn05:00
thoreauputicsjbrown: *sigh* OK - I just used a loose abbreviation05:00
thoreauputicsjbrown: I meant network manager05:00
roflpandahmmm05:00
roflpandathis isn't working yet.05:00
EvanIsaacif i'm trying to get wlan0 to come up, do i comment it anyway??05:01
surabachisethk,  u see the new error?05:01
sjbrownroflpanda, did you find the page?05:01
sethkgodtvisken, probably, yes05:01
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sethksurabachi, I did.  the last line says "Import error: no module named _egg"05:01
EvanIsaaci'd appreciate a response, i've been mild mannered and patient all week05:01
roflpandayah i found a page.05:01
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: try the following: comment out everything except lo ( loopback), then do   sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart , then nm-applet &05:02
sethksurabachi, no05:02
roflpandabut i don't understand any of this. haha05:02
roflpandaautoaudiosink?05:02
roflpandaalsasink?05:02
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sethkgodtvisken, it's not difficult to do.05:02
sethkgodtvisken, or, just install grub onto the MBR of the current hda05:02
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: if it's working nm-applet will animate, and a few seconds later it will associate and get an IP05:02
EvanIsaacso do i comment out auto lo?05:02
godtviskensethk: but i want to take the current hda out, and use it in a different computer05:02
EvanIsaacand just leave iface lo inet loopback?05:02
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: no, that's loopback05:03
roflpandai have seen this fix before, but never the autoaudiosink part.05:03
thoreauputicleave auto lo05:03
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sethkgodtvisken, probably you'll have to change it to hda, then.  you'll have to modify your /etc/fstab also05:03
mattva01we have a apple G3 that we want to install ubuntu on . The system clock is set to 1904 so gnome crashes when you start from live cd05:03
mattva01we cant boot up the mac OS , so is there anyway to change the system clock at startup05:03
surabachisethk,  ur not reading the last post!05:03
sethksurabachi, sure I am.  I'm reading the last line05:03
EvanIsaacdbus: no such file or directory05:03
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thoreauputicEvanIsaac:  leave the two lo lines05:04
surabachisethk, refresh it then05:04
Winter-SoulsticeWhat is nautilus?05:04
surabachisethk,  re fresh the page05:04
thoreauputicEvanIsaac:  sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart05:04
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: that *has* to be there :)05:04
EvanIsaacsry forgot space05:04
EvanIsaacok it's restarting05:04
EvanIsaaci think it's done05:04
surabachisethk,  cause it shoudl say this now05:04
surabachisethk, ImportError: No module named _sexy05:04
godtviskensethk: so what should the process be? remove the current hda, put the cable in the right position, then boot into a cd and change my fstab and install grub?05:05
EvanIsaacso what should i do now?05:05
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: Ok when it's restarted , if you don't see the nm-applet in the notification area, type nm-applet &05:05
sethkgodtvisken, yes05:05
roflpandaOk for this fix.05:05
EvanIsaacand what?05:05
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: I assume you aren't connected by ehthernet on that machine?05:05
roflpandaThis place doesn't exist for me.05:06
sethksurabachi, ok, I see it now05:06
sethksurabachi, find it the same way you found the other one.05:06
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surabachisethk,  i did and i moved it but it didnt do anythign05:06
sethksurabachi, there is a # for edgy, you might find better help there for an edgy question.  or you might not.05:06
roflpandaetc-mozilla-firefox-mozilla-firefoxrc gives me a blank page.05:06
EvanIsaac now ihave 2 no network windows05:06
sethksurabachi, I don't have an edgy machine here.05:06
EvanIsaac:S05:06
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roflpandaDo I just create this folder or what?05:07
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: What do you mean? You mean two applets"05:07
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Half-Leftanyway to get Opera for Edgy?05:07
thoreauputic?05:07
EvanIsaac2 icons05:07
EvanIsaacand then lo05:07
thoreauputicright05:07
EvanIsaacso now what05:07
thoreauputicwhere are you seeing lo ?05:07
EvanIsaacto the right of the no network icons05:07
thoreauputic...05:07
thoreauputicweird05:07
roflpandaYah this doesn't exist.05:08
EvanIsaacwhen i hover over it it says network connection:lo05:08
surabachiwhast the edgy irc?05:08
lukasHey, I'm having some problems booting my computer.  I turn on my computer, and no video comes on the screen.  I've removed everything but video card, cpu, fan, and memory, but still nothing comes on the screen at bootup.  However, the fans are running fine.05:08
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: you mean there's anothe ricon that has lo on it?05:08
thoreauputic*another05:08
EvanIsaac2 identical icons that have an exclamation and when you mouseover it says no network connection05:08
amicrawlewhere does the bios go in xmess in kmame?05:08
EvanIsaacand then one to the right of those that says network connection: lo05:08
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: hmmm.... try typing  killall nm-applet05:08
amicrawlesayes not found05:08
rus1lukas: If nothing at all appears, it's gotta be a hardware problem.05:09
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thoreauputicEvanIsaac: it should respawn05:09
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lukasrus1: Any channel you would reccommend for hardware people?05:09
voLvonx on ubuntu 6.0605:09
rus1lukas: Not that I know of.05:09
EvanIsaacthat doesn't do anythinh05:09
roflpandaYah that doesn't exist for me.05:09
EvanIsaaci typed05:09
EvanIsaackillall nm-appled05:09
EvanIsaacapplet05:09
EvanIsaacand got nothing05:10
voLvohow should i make it work, i have installed its NXSERVER05:10
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: what driver does your card use?05:10
amicrawlethe reason i'm asking these qestion i'v never used mame or xmess befor.05:10
roflpandaXMMS: Underoath - To Whom It May Concern05:10
amicrawlei'm a new be to it05:10
EvanIsaacthe filename?05:10
bruenigroflpanda, turn that off05:10
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: no, just - is it fully supported?05:10
roflpandaIt is it's my doin' my bad.05:10
EvanIsaacaccording to the ubuntu website05:10
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roflpandaam i suppose to have a ect / mozilla-firefox /mozilla-firefoxrc ?05:11
EvanIsaacit's on the supported drivers list05:11
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: and do you know what it should be? And is it there if you typ  lsmod | grep <yourdriver>05:11
thoreauputic?05:11
EvanIsaacor supported cards list05:11
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EvanIsaacwell it told me to install to .inf files05:11
EvanIsaac205:11
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simeonin the help section for java there is a "fakeroot" command but it does not work in terminal05:12
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: ah, ndiswrapper - sorry I know nothing about ndiswrapper05:12
simeonfakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin05:12
EvanIsaac:|\\\\\\\\05:12
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: I suggest you ask on the users maling list05:12
EvanIsaacis there a non-ndiswrapper thing i can use?05:13
mattva01can anyone help me? please?05:13
EvanIsaacor at least not code based?05:13
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sivikany c++ programmers here?05:13
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: depends on your card05:13
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users05:13
roflpandaI figure it might just be best for me to only use one thing for sound at a time.05:13
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: I have a broadcom card that uses bcm43xx05:13
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roflpandaI can't figure this out at all.05:14
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sivikthoreauputic, try asking in #bcm-users05:14
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sivikthoreauputic, what kernel?05:14
EvanIsaaci had to subscribe or something05:14
EvanIsaacand this is my first time using linux05:14
sivikthoreauputic, and did you get the firmware from the wl_apsta.o file?05:14
EvanIsaacso i may just go back to windows05:14
thoreauputicsivik: no. Mine is working - I'm talking to EvanIsaac05:14
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thoreauputic:)05:14
sivikthoreauputic, sorry, i am having problem with mine05:15
EvanIsaacsince it's so hard just to get wifi05:15
sivikthoreauputic, mine works fine with an install of dapper but as soon as i get any packages updated, it doesn't work05:15
thoreauputicsivik: you know about cafuego's firmware package?05:15
EvanIsaacbut i'll try again tomorrow05:15
cafuegoYeah, do you?05:15
EvanIsaaci've been in here all week using all my spare time trying to find this out05:15
shriphaniEvanIsaac, you can use those bcm3xxx05:15
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sivikthoreauputic, i guess i don't05:16
EvanIsaacbcm3xxx?05:16
EvanIsaacwhat's that?05:16
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shriphaniwait05:16
thoreauputicsivik: ah, you might need to downgrade network manager and uninstall gnome-network-manager05:16
sivikthoreauputic, i don't use either one of those, i just do it from terminal05:16
siviki don't have gnome installed from there05:16
thompasata drives are a problem05:16
cafuegohttp://ubuntu.cafuego.net -> click on bcm43xx in dapper-cafuego05:16
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: it's a module/driver for broadcom cards like Apple Airport Extreme05:16
sivikcafuego, what if i'm not in dapper05:16
shriphanibcm43xx05:17
cafuegosivik: Click on edgy-cafuego :-)05:17
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sivikcafuego, thanks05:17
cafuegosivik: I try to keep that firmware up to date with regards to requirements & features in the actual driver05:18
roflpandaWell here goes nothing.05:18
thoreauputiccafuego's firmware packages rock :)05:18
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mattva01we have a apple G3 that we want to install ubuntu on . The system clock is set to 1904 so gnome crashes when you start from live cd05:18
mattva01we cant boot up the mac OS , so is there anyway to change the system clock at startup05:18
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surabachisethk, i got a new error again05:18
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surabachisethk,  i am making pprogress but am stuck now05:18
cafuegomattva01: login at the console and set the date by hand; then start gnome.05:19
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shriphaniEvanIsaac, this is a good guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517405:19
sivikcafuego, cool05:19
sivikcafuego, i will try that05:19
mattva01can you log in at the console from the live cd?05:19
vashypoohDoes anyone have some time to help me try to get these ATI drivers working?05:19
EvanIsaaccafuego, will bcm43xx work with my netgear W111T?05:20
sivikvashypooh, which card05:20
vashypoohX800Pro05:20
shriphanivashypooh, easyubuntu i think can be used to install ati drivers05:20
cafuegoEvanIsaac: What does 'lspci' say about that card?05:20
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roflpandawait i think sound is working for 2 things at once.05:20
shriphanicafuego, the link i gave is a good one for broadcom cards05:20
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EvanIsaacwhat are you looking for in lspci?05:21
vashypoohWhere can i find this easy ubuntu?05:21
cafuegoshriphani: My package is too, as it works just dandy and auto-updates.05:21
cafuegoEvanIsaac: Does it mention 'BCM' anywhere?05:21
echo1Hi everyone.  I recently upgraded from the 386 kernel to the 686 kernel (on account of having a Pent M).  Everything works except it broke shut down.  No longer does it save my desktop and half the time it just goes blank screen and doesnt do the shut down process or anythign (2.6.12-27-686) (Kubuntu)05:22
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shriphanivashypooh, google for easyubuntu :)05:22
roflpandanope still not 2 things at once.05:22
EvanIsaacdon't think so05:22
deathz0r__hmm05:22
EvanIsaacit's a USB adapter05:22
deathz0r__http://www.rebellion-network.net/death/hmm.jpg05:22
EvanIsaacfor wifi05:22
vashypoohbleh, i was looking for it on the forums tehe05:22
EvanIsaacand NOTHING has gotten it to work05:22
EvanIsaacnone of the howtos05:22
EvanIsaacnothing05:22
EvanIsaac:(05:22
shriphanihttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/05:22
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thoreauputicEvanIsaac: do you know the chipset?05:22
EvanIsaacchipset?05:23
shriphaniTo find out if your card has a broadcom chipset run the following command:05:23
shriphaniCode:05:23
shriphanilspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation05:23
EvanIsaacintel corporation 440BX/ZX/DX?05:23
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: the electronics version it uses05:23
shriphaniwht does that ssay05:24
EvanIsaacgrep:corporation:no such file or directory05:24
hantulspci | grep Network05:24
hantuheh05:24
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EvanIsaacnothing happened05:24
shriphaniEvanIsaac, just type lspci then05:25
hantuO_o05:25
hantulspci then read.05:25
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roflpandathis is getting really annoying.05:25
hantuer oops sorry shriphani :)05:25
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thoreauputicEvanIsaac:  google suggests 440BX/ZX/DX is something in an IBM thinkpad so far...05:25
shriphani:)05:25
roflpandasound should work for more than one thing, end of story.05:25
GoldfischI'm shopping to build another PC and plan to load dapper. I need a USB-based wireless NIC and was looking at either the Netgear WG111 or Netgear WG111T. I can't seem to turn up much information in how these two differ from each other. Does anyone have experience with these?05:25
EvanIsaacthis is a dell inspiron 400005:25
EvanIsaacdon't forget this is a USB wireless adapter05:25
hantuhah05:26
hantulsusb? :P05:26
sethkEvanIsaac, usb net + wireless = very complex05:26
EvanIsaacdammit05:26
EvanIsaacso i've wasted my entire week05:26
sethkEvanIsaac, you need the USB networking layer, and then the wireless layer on top of that05:26
sethkEvanIsaac, or underneath that, really.05:26
EvanIsaacfor something complex05:26
EvanIsaac:|05:26
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: yes, but the code you gave doesn't look like a wifi chipset unless i missed something...05:27
EvanIsaacthe howto's looked simple enough05:27
EvanIsaacthey just don't work05:27
sethkEvanIsaac, I didn't say it is wasted, just that it isn't easy05:27
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sethkEvanIsaac, they are fine for the cases when you don't need them05:27
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whurleyanyone here installed ubuntu server yet?05:27
EvanIsaaci just started using linux for the first time this week05:27
EvanIsaac:SSS05:27
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: it gets easier :)05:27
EvanIsaacI have wired internet running thru the laptop though05:27
roflpandaNow I can barely hear sound at all and it's turned all the way up.05:27
sethkEvanIsaac, actually except for wireless, ubuntu is very easy to configure05:27
EvanIsaacso that's what you may be seeing05:27
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: and then you never want to go back :)05:27
Dr_willis:)05:28
EvanIsaacbut right now05:28
EvanIsaacI05:28
EvanIsaacdon't05:28
EvanIsaaclike05:28
EvanIsaacubuntu05:28
EvanIsaac:(05:28
Dr_willisI was about to say how Linux is like S*X.. but this is a faimly channel.. :P05:28
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: that's understandable05:28
brian98EvanIsaac, sethk Wireless is one problem05:28
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sethkwhurley, I've installed server, yes, why?05:28
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Dr_willisIts easy to do.. but getting good at it takes practice. :)05:28
brian98EvanIsaac, the reason is that the manafacturers don't make the drivers open source05:28
thoreauputicDr_willis: heheh05:28
sethkDr_willis, you must be spending time with my ex-wife05:28
brian98EvanIsaac, so people guess!05:28
Dr_willis:)05:28
brian98EvanIsaac, Like the acx project05:29
sivikpm Dr_willis05:29
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sivikDr_willis, we never would have guessed05:29
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brian98EvanIsaac,  Or use ndiswrapper05:29
whurleysethk: did you have any issues?05:29
roflpandaOk, so sound for 2 things at once=works05:29
roflpandaBUT if I turn it down for one thing, it goes down for both.05:29
EvanIsaacwell if you guys have some time if you find some other way to get me anything through my USB adapter Netgear W111T please email me at EvanStaff@gmail.com05:29
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EvanIsaacbecause i have to sleep05:29
GoldfischDr_willis: I just saw "White and Nerdy" on youtube.com today! I almost fell out of my chair!!! "The only decision I found was hard was whether I preferred Kirk or Picard."05:29
whurleysethk: I'm having issues getting the installer to get back "io scheduler cfg registered"05:29
vashypoohEasy Ubuntu didnt help in any real way with these drivers05:29
EvanIsaacand i've been using ndiswrapper all this week05:29
jkernsjranyone here having any issues w/ networkmanager?05:30
brian98Would a pcmcia adapter be easier?05:30
Dr_willisGoldfisch,  go buy his new cd.. its a dvd on the other side - with videos.05:30
EvanIsaacmost likely!05:30
brian98I'm asking the question to thoreauputic05:30
EvanIsaacthank you all very much for trying to help05:30
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: you might get more sleep if you can find a linux compatible wifi card05:30
Dr_willisGoldfisch,  and Karoke tracks as well. :)05:30
EvanIsaacyeah i know05:30
yockHmmm, it seems worth noting that Python-gtk2 is not resolved correctly on Edgy yet05:30
EvanIsaaci was going to get a neutral milk hotel shirt :((05:30
cafuegoEvanIsaac: Until you figure out which chipset the wifi adapter uses, you're prolly stuck with ndiswrapper.05:30
EvanIsaacbut this may be more worth it05:30
roflpandaNMH = win05:30
EvanIsaacyarly05:31
roflpandai just heard them on last.fm for the first time.05:31
GoldfischI have been reading a lot today about ndiswrapper and the USB network cards. It appears that 1.8 that comes with dapper isn't new enough. You have to download the source and build that to pull things off.05:31
roflpandaYesterday, and I have to say "yum"05:31
shriphaniEvanIsaac, priv me05:31
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vashypoohCan anyone help me with this? ;x05:31
EvanIsaacwhy priv?05:32
roflpandaI guess I got alsa, so I get what I got.05:32
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shriphanii want to see the output of lspci05:32
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EvanIsaacok05:32
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bruenig!easyubuntu05:32
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gangerlihi all05:32
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Flannel!tell vashypooh about ati05:32
sethkGoldfisch, that's interesting.  although I suspect it makes it better but still not quite there.05:32
roflpandaSo, say if i'm listening to mp3's and watching youtube.05:32
roflpandaif i turn the sound down ON the mp3 player, the sound on youtube goes down too.05:32
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vashypoohI wouldnt be asking for help if i didnt try the stuff on the stie already hehe05:32
sethkvashypooh, with what?05:33
roflpandaIs it suppose to do that in alsa?05:33
crimsunroflpanda: that's intentional.05:33
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amicrawleis there a how to for dummies for xmame?05:33
bruenigI was more so pointing out the at your own risk05:33
roflpandaso there's no way to fix it huh?05:33
gangerlicould someone answer a few zero-and-100%-incapable-noob questions?05:33
vashypoohi cant get DRI or anything working05:33
roflpandabesides not using alsa.05:33
Dr_willisamicrawle,  the mame program has several web sites and lots of docs05:33
LordTureissure, gangerli05:33
LordTureisI'll try05:33
bruenig!ask > gangerli05:33
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roflpandai mean they work at the same time now which is cool, but...05:33
amicrawlefor so one how has never used it05:33
crimsunroflpanda: using softvol, but that won't work in this case since one uses oss emulation.05:33
gangerlithe thing is, I simply decided to cut ties with the "Other", and switched to ubuntu05:34
gangerliand I'm managing quite well05:34
Dr_willisamicrawle,  in short.. copy the roms to the right dir.. run xmame  with the right options.05:34
roflpandaso i'm stuck with having to listen to screamo at high volume while watching youtube huh?05:34
roflpanda:)05:34
bruenigroflpanda, close screamo...05:34
roflpandahaha05:34
gangerliI can really set up things like my nvidia card, wmvs and things like that, understanding the terminal is not as hard as I tought05:34
roflpandaI'm using xmms for mp3.05:35
bruenigclose xmms05:35
roflpandaI like it better than any of the other ones i've seen.05:35
roflpandadone.05:35
gangerlibut what I cant grasp is building from source05:35
gangerlihow does that work?05:35
bruenigrhythmbox05:35
LordTureissry.  can't help you there.  :(05:35
roflpandarhythmbox?05:35
brueniggangerli, you only need to build from source when you can't get something from the repos05:35
gangerliyeah05:35
gangerliexactly05:35
roflpandai found a last-fm deb from a repo.05:35
gangerlilike Xnview, my fav picviewer05:35
bruenigroflpanda, I prefer rhythmbox05:36
jkernsjrroflpanda: check out audacious05:36
roflpandaaudacious?05:36
LordTureisusually you can find a .deb in the forums.  Have you tried there?05:36
LordTureisto gangerli05:36
roflpandaOH and I figured out how to get firefox to recognize last fm to play streams.05:36
GoldfischI thought that was audacity.05:36
roflpandaThat was pretty cool.05:36
jkernsjrroflpanda: and for music management check out listen music player http://listengnome.free.fr05:36
EvanIsaacHost Bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443Bx/ZX/DX Host Bridge (rev 03)05:37
EvanIsaac<EvanIsaac> PCI bridge same thingn05:37
EvanIsaac<EvanIsaac> and then it says agp bridge05:37
EvanIsaac<EvanIsaac> CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI142005:37
EvanIsaac<EvanIsaac> IDS interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI05:37
EvanIsaac<EvanIsaac> it's IDE at the end not ACPI05:37
EvanIsaac<EvanIsaac> USB controller: Intel Corp same thing05:37
roflpandaI just don't want to have to turn up my music all the way to listen to more than one sound at once.05:37
EvanIsaac<EvanIsaac> Comm controller: Agere Systems WinModem 56K05:37
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gangerlinot really. but basically I switched over to linux to learn something from it and I'm simply interested in how compiling works05:37
brueniggangerli, well, let me get that see if I can walk you through it05:37
EvanIsaacplease email me at EvanStaff@gmail.com if you know anything that can help me05:37
EvanIsaacplease05:37
EvanIsaacplease05:37
EvanIsaacplease05:37
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EvanIsaacthank you all very much05:37
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roflpandaYah I feel smarter and like i'm learning something but using this.05:38
roflpanda"by"05:38
thoreauputicEvanIsaac: good luck - see you around :)05:38
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jkernsjraudacious http://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page05:38
brueniggangerli, did you get the tar.gz?05:38
roflpandaOh wait, why don't I try xmms in esd and keep youtube the way it is.05:38
mystWhere xchat stores the logs????05:38
Goldfischgangerli: Well, you basically download some foobar.tar.gz file. Then tar xvfz foobar.tar.gz to unpack it. Then go into the folder, and type ./configure to configure it for your system. Then type "make" to build it. Finally, type "sudo make install" to deploy it, and your set! Is that what you were asking?05:38
LordTureisgtg05:38
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roflpandamyst, i think on an online thing.05:38
roflpandai couldn't find them myself.05:39
gangerlia-ha. however, It is said to be a time consuming procedure. is that true?05:39
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bimberiunfortunately EvanIsaac needed to paste 'lsusb' not 'lspci'05:39
brueniggangerli, that won't work for what you have, those are precompiled binaries05:39
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brian98it's the one contant source of problems that keeps coming up05:39
mysttnx05:39
roflpandayah i never understood directions that said05:39
brian98wireless stuff05:39
roflpanda"navigate to this folder"05:40
brueniggangerli, for xnview, you can either copy over the stuff in bin or you can run the install script05:40
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roflpandatype in ./blahblahblahblah.tar.gz05:40
gangerliup until now, I experimented with apt-get and broadening my sources.list and such basic stuff05:40
roflpandaCause whenever I did that, it couldn't find it.05:40
jkernsjrroflpanda: also..for last.fm have you seen last.exit http://www.o-hand.com/~iain/last-exit/05:40
brueniggangerli, if you want to know how to install that xnview...05:40
gangerliand I'm just curious, not goal-set ^^05:40
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roflpandaNo I haven't seen that yet, I was gonna try it if I couldn't get last.fm to work.05:40
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roflpandaGoooood stuff.05:41
brueniggangerli, for xnview, although now you seem disinterested, get the tar.gz, do tar xf whatever.tar.gz, then cd into the directory, then run sudo ./install, and it will install everything in /usr/local/bin05:41
roflpandabut still, how in the heck do i make it so i don't have to listen to everything so loud to hear 2 things at once?05:41
amicrawlei though neo-geo roms were huge05:42
roflpandaneo geo!05:42
amicrawlelike 512mb05:42
gangerli...hmmm I see.05:42
matthew_wxbox05:42
matthew_wdoh05:42
amicrawleat least they werein the arcade05:42
roflpandaI thought ubuntu wasn't going to fit on a cd-r05:42
jkernsjrroflpanda:  as far as I have figured out linux is still not all there for multiple input audio streams05:42
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roflpandaSo I hear.05:42
gangerliI'm gonna experiment with it.05:43
roflpandathat really sucks big time.05:43
roflpandawell, i got sound in 2 different apps, i'm kinda happy.05:43
gangerlihowever, there is one thing I'd lke to compile first05:43
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roflpandamaybe i just need to start listening to quieter music?05:43
roflpanda:D05:43
gangerliis there any multi-tree file browser written for linux? the only thing I'm acually missing is TotalCom05:43
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jkernsjrwell..I can get things to play in a media player and in firefox at the same time but not two different audio apps05:43
roflpandaI can get xmms and youtube05:44
shriphanimulti tree05:44
Dr_willisamicrawle,  a large rom can be a few mb. :P05:44
shriphanimaybe xfe05:44
jkernsjrone is loud and the other soft?05:44
Dr_willisamicrawle,  the mame chd files are Huge 1gb+05:44
roflpandabut like i said, the sound has to be like incredibly loud to do so.05:44
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roflpandawell if i turn down the volume ON xmms it turns it down on youtube too.05:44
jkernsjri didnt see your original question/discussion05:44
jkernsjroh05:45
roflpandai couldn't figure out the 2 sound thing.05:45
roflpandabeen looking it up for hours at a time for the past 2 days.05:45
jkernsjryour tuning down the volume on the xmms app not on the volume applet?05:45
roflpandaYah05:45
Graigso i just installed epiphany, and the side mouse (forward backward) buttons dont work.  any thoughts about this? or do they just not work in epiphany?05:45
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jkernsjrdont think that has been an issue for me05:45
roflpandaAnd when i turn it down on the xmms app it goes down on youtube too.05:45
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roflpandaIt's crazzzzaahh05:46
thoreauputicroflpanda: try switching the volume from pcm to master or vice versa05:46
jkernsjrthe think I HATE is that more and more websites are going flash and were still stuck with the old version that doesnt work for a bunch of them05:46
roflpandahow do i do that?05:46
roflpandaalsamixer?05:46
roflpandaactually it's on master right now, should i switch to pcm then?05:47
thoreauputicroflpanda: no, in the app ( xmms for example) there's a choice05:47
Dr_willisjkernsjr,  or it CAN work for them.. but they just demand the latest flash.. even tho they dont really need it.05:47
gangerliwell, thx anyway....I'll drop by in case I get in trouble with this new world. take care everyone05:47
gangerlibyebye05:47
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roflpandaoooohhh i see.05:47
thoreauputicroflpanda: IIRC you can choose to control either channel/setting05:47
amicrawlewhat do you mean a few mb05:47
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amicrawlein the arcade they were they said on the cart  512mb05:48
roflpandaOk so where is that?05:48
jkernsjrDr_willis: yea..cant wait for Adobe to release the 9.0? version for linux05:48
roflpandaI see input plugins, and output05:48
roflpandathe option to switch it to alsa05:48
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thoreauputicroflpanda: I don't have xmms here atm but I think Options-Prefernces05:48
roflpandabut not that other thing.05:48
Dr_willisamicrawle,  you sure it was 512 megabytes or megabits.. or course it depends on the carts also.05:48
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amicrawlelike nam197505:49
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thoreauputicroflpanda: click around a bit - that's what I do anyway :)05:49
lannis05:49
amicrawlethe games were very good looking05:49
roflpandanope not there. haha05:49
thoreauputiclannis: umm05:49
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lannisUbuntu5.10,FAT32NTFS05:49
Dr_willisamicrawle,  i perfer Mr. DO. :)05:49
melonanybody know of a "dvd to 3gp" converter for ubuntu? (off the top of their heads)05:49
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amicrawlewhat is Mr,DO05:50
lannisumm,what does it mean?05:50
Dr_willisamicrawle,  you are a clown running around.. sort of a combo of PacMan and DigDug05:50
roflpandaoh wait.05:50
roflpandaDUH05:50
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thoreauputiclannis: why are you spamming the channel with weird characters?05:50
roflpandaI found it.05:50
amicrawleno05:50
amicrawlei can run stella05:50
amicrawlezsnes05:50
jkernsjrroflpanda: do a test and let us know if you can control the volumes independently now05:51
amicrawleand vrjag05:51
rootthoreauputic: he is writing in a different language/encoding05:51
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roflpandaok uno momento05:51
thoreauputicroot: that's what I was wondering05:51
rootthoreauputic: has to do with ubuntu 5.10, FAT32 and NTFS, as you can see05:51
thoreauputicroot: yes I saw that much :)05:51
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boris55any one familiar with LTSP 5.0 with the new edgy eft?05:51
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lannisI just sent a message in chinese,can't you see?05:52
sivikboris55, what is LTSP?05:52
thoreauputiclannis: what is your nationality?05:52
lannischina05:52
boris55linux terminal server project.05:52
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thoreauputiclannis: I have utf 8 and it didn't look like chinese here05:52
amicrawleDr_wills relly i don't know any thing about mame  heard of it05:52
sivikboris55, ok, i'm not familiar with it05:52
thoreauputic!cn05:52
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk05:52
boris55like windows terminal services.05:52
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siviki don't like windows terminal services05:52
lannisOK!I know05:52
Dr_willisamicrawle,  its pretty much the Grandfather of all the arcade emulators.05:52
amicrawleok05:53
Dr_willisamicrawle,  right now my Mame rom collextion stands at around 16gb. :P05:53
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roflpandaNope, now youtube doesn't work?05:53
amicrawlecan i look?05:53
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melonpretty much?05:53
Dr_willisamicrawle,  thats not counting all the .chd files which are often 1gb+ each. I got most all them from torrent sites05:53
roflpandaoh wait, nope still same with both.05:53
Doodluvgot a cmedia cm8738 that is producing no sound, any suggestions05:53
roflpandastill have to turn the sound up super loud to hear in either.05:53
amicrawleit torrent illigal?05:53
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amicrawleor is it abandon ware?05:54
sivikamicrawle, only if you get caught05:54
Dr_willisamicrawle,  its a grey area. :)05:54
Dr_willisive bought many of the mame roms from some sites/packages as well.05:54
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jkernsjrroflpanda: so has it always been the fact that you had to crank the volume to hear anything?05:54
jkernsjrroflpanda: I take it you have the system volume all the way up?05:54
roflpandano i can hear sound at medium volume.05:55
amicrawleu can by them illigal?05:55
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roflpandabut in order for them both to work the sound has to be like FULL blast.05:55
euxneksI just want to say Ubuntu has allowed me to use my computer05:55
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euxneksAnd you guys rock05:55
sivikeuxneks, yes we know that05:55
jkernsjrroflpanda: huh..not sure05:55
lannisI can't talk with chinese,but i don't like english! OK! I just leave a moment105:56
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roflpandayah i'll have to research that one.05:57
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Dr_willishmm. a lot of the emulator packages are gone from the repos. :(05:57
roflpandai guess probably because they are all on asla.05:57
shriphaniroflpanda, does apple ship to india ?05:57
sivikDr_willis, thats no fun05:57
roflpandaalsa05:57
roflpandai have no idea.05:57
shriphaniumm05:57
Dr_willissivik,  most of them were WAY out of date anyway.05:57
amicrawlei see hotline has lot of emu sites and servers05:57
sivikDr_willis, but zsnes still works05:57
thoreauputiclannis was using a different charcater set as well as talking chinese I guess - in UTF-8 it looked like spam :)05:58
euxneksok.. does anyone here have a PSP with firmware 2.81? I'm having problems with encoding video for it.05:58
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Dr_willissivik,  thats a goodie. :P - i just compiled the latest VICE last night05:58
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sivikDr_willis, ? whats a goodie and whats VICE?05:58
sivikDr_willis, zsnes is the goodie?05:58
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Dr_willissivik,  zsnes = oldie but a goodie.. vice = an Older goodie. :)05:59
sivikDr_willis, oh ok05:59
Dr_willissnex9x - nice also.05:59
sivikDr_willis, what does vice do?  is it an emulator as well?05:59
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jkernsjrroflpanda: Im actually not able to get youtube to work at all currently....there using flash for their player as well06:00
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Dr_willissivik,  C64 emulator06:00
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Mark1412Can anyone help me with videos?06:00
sivikDr_willis, what is C6406:00
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sivikMark1412, whats the problem06:00
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Dr_willissivik,  Commodore C64 - an 8 bit computer06:00
Mark1412Anyone know how to play 3GP video files06:00
sivikDr_willis, oh, sorry, i'm not that old06:01
Dr_willissivik,  you youngster! :)06:01
Mark1412It is video that has been uploaded through my cell phone06:01
kholerabbishow do I open a ms publisher .pub?06:01
sivikDr_willis, how old are you?06:01
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Dr_willisI got computers older then sivik ! :)06:01
Dr_willis3606:01
sivikDr_willis, so you have computers older than 22?06:01
thoreauputicjkernsjr: a lot of the stuff on youtube is actually .flv which plays in ffplay ( part of ffmpeg) but you have to download it to play it that way06:01
Dr_willisPull your pants  Up you Hoodlem! :P06:01
sivikDr_willis, lol06:01
Mark1412No-one knows?06:01
Dr_willissivik, id have to check the wiki for the age of the C64 - but its  proberly over 20 yr old..06:01
sivikDr_willis, ok06:02
thoreauputicjkernsjr: there are firefox plugins that let you download the flash/flash video06:02
Dr_willisI used them when i was a teenager..06:02
THX-1138How do i edit the drive name used icon on the desktop?06:02
thoreauputicjkernsjr: or rather, extensions06:02
jkernsjrthoreauputic: how do you know which is which and why would they not just use the same player across all videos?06:02
thoreauputicjkernsjr: flashplayer plays both06:02
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sivikDr_willis, its two years older than i am, it came out in august 198206:02
kothz!fglrx06:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:02
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thoreauputicjkernsjr: i have a firefox extension - hang on I'll look06:02
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boris55!nvidia06:03
jkernsjrthoreauputic: is that the opensource flashplayer?06:03
Dr_willissivik,  i got a vic-20 and a timex sinclare also. :P06:03
thoreauputicjkernsjr: no06:03
roflpandais it the free-flash?06:03
roflpandayou have to redirect something or other i don't remember.06:03
Mark1412sivik, know any G3p players?06:03
sivikDr_willis, wow06:03
sivikMark1412, nope06:03
thoreauputicjkernsjr: try the ff extensions unplug and video downloader06:03
roflpandaI just looked it up, and now I can't find it again.06:03
Mark1412ty anyway06:04
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jkernsjrthoreauputic: I think I added some source to my apt list and am on a flash player not in vanilla..gotta check that out06:04
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kholerabbisanyone know how/if I can open a publisher .pub document?06:04
roflpandaI was just watching gumby. haha06:04
thoreauputicjkernsjr: ffplay is part of the ffmpeg package, but mplayer will also play flv06:04
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jkernsjrIve got mplayer06:04
thoreauputicjkernsjr: then try videodownloader and/or unplug ectensions for firefox06:05
thoreauputic*extensions06:05
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roflpandawell i've got sound, i guess i should be happy since windoze decided it hates sound and all things with it.06:05
JoseStefanhas anyone installed flashplugin-nonfree recently?06:05
roflpandadid you get an error message?06:05
roflpandaabout installing because the upstream had changed?06:05
thoreauputicjkernsjr: not ideal as they aren't plugins, but better than not being able to play at all06:05
roflpandai had that problem recently with easyubuntu06:06
JoseStefanrolfpanda, yep, i've been trying to install it for a few days now (excluding backports)06:06
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roflpandaTry it again.06:06
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roflpandaFor some reason I did it again and the second time it worked.06:07
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rwscoldHi there I have a question about a tv tuner I have an ATI Tv wonder elite and I cant seem to get the drivers installed any help would be great06:07
roflpandaAlthough I'm sure there's some document about it somewhere.06:07
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abortdanyone know how to change the font size inside of programs?06:07
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abortdlike the main window06:07
abortdi did it yesterday but forgot how :|06:07
roflpandai can't remember where i saw it, i had to reinstall ubuntu because i screwed up firefox and it wouldn't start in applications.06:08
roflpandai had to use terminal to get it to start.06:08
JoseStefani still get "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"06:08
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roflpandaYah, you might have to do the whole apt-get thing yourself.06:09
roflpandaeasyubuntu crashed on me yesterday for some odd reason.06:09
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JoseStefanbug 6206006:10
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roflpandabecause trying to download and install java and freeflash on my own wasn't working.06:10
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rwscoldHi there I have a question about a tv tuner I have an ATI Tv wonder elite and I cant seem to get the drivers installed any help would be great06:10
sivikJoseStefan, try running sudo apt-get update06:11
abortdanyone know how to change the font size inside of a program like adept or xchat?06:11
JoseStefansivik, i have06:11
roflpandaI guess I should research this sound thing.06:11
sivikJoseStefan, ok06:11
sivikroflpanda, what a wonderful idea06:11
roflpandai was hoping someone would have an answer. haha06:11
JoseStefansivik, it's adobe's fault. The package is the same from release date, but it depends on 3rd party files located on the adobe server06:11
sivikJoseStefan, ok06:12
sivik!flash06:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:12
JoseStefanafaik, flashplugin-nonfree is broken for any new install of it, unless you use the backports06:12
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roflpanda!sound06:13
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems06:13
abortd!font06:13
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto06:13
roflpandadmixplugin!06:13
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abortd:(06:13
euxneks!psp06:13
ubotupsp: Perl Server Pages - Web scripting environment runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-3 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 116 kB06:13
roflpandaI haven't tried that yet.06:13
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euxneksdamn06:13
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ubotuffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3833 kB, installed size 9808 kB06:13
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euxneks!x26406:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x264 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
euxnekscrud06:14
sivik!x36806:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x368 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:14
sivik!x38606:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:14
sivikeuxneks, what are you trying to find?06:14
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euxnekshow to encode video for a psp06:14
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euxneks=(06:14
euxneksbeen very unsuccessful for about a week now06:14
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euxneksFW 2.8106:14
euxnekserr.. Firmware 2.8106:15
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rwscoldHi there I have a question about a tv tuner I have an ATI Tv wonder elite and I cant seem to get the drivers installed any help would be great06:15
roflpandahmm that didn't solve anything.,06:15
Gumbydoes anyone know which file samba users are stored in06:16
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Flanneleuxneks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10825506:16
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^Downhow do I install the english language?06:17
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Audimagehow do i get codecs to work in totem...dvd and mp3 for example. I have downloaded the dvd and mp3 codecs (i can play dvds and mp3s in different apps, just not in totem),06:19
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euxneksFlannel: yeah I tried that.. I'll try it again though - just to be sure06:20
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs06:20
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB06:20
Healot!info totem-xine06:20
euxneksI've been very tired lately.. (mainly staying up trying to encode video)06:20
ubotutotem-xine: A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1043 kB, installed size 2512 kB06:20
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roflpandaI stayed up til 5am last night reinstalling ubuntu.06:20
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TuXhi06:21
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Audimagehealot, that doesen't help me06:21
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Aaron_Masonhey all... does anybody know how to check the total space on a filesystem without mounting it?06:21
HealotAudimage: it will help you install the following packages, as listed previously06:22
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roflpandaOh yah, also I have 2 hd's and one is still nfts or whatever and I can't read it.06:22
Audimageaaron: system>administration>disks06:22
Audimagehealot, i have, but totem still doesen't play dvds or mp3s06:22
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Aaron_MasonAudimage: I meant on command line06:22
Aaron_Masonsorry06:22
roflpandaAnd well, considering I'm a heavy music downloader I guess it would be nice to have extra space.06:23
HealotAudimage: install libxine-extracodecs and totem-xine, honey06:23
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abortdanyone know how to change the font size inside of a program like adept or xchat?06:23
roflpandaYou have to enable something, in the preferences menu to do so I think.06:24
abortdits a setting that sets for every program i cant remember though06:24
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abortdnah not konversation06:24
abortdi mean all programs all together06:24
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knappercan anyone tell me if there is such a thing has a kubuntu unstable repository? I'm looking for a repo that contains the unstable version of kwin-baghira.06:27
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w30!error_log file permissions06:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about error_log file permissions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:30
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adami need help compiling and installing a .tar.gz file. How do I do it?06:31
euxneksyou have to untar it first06:31
adamextract?06:31
euxneksyeah06:31
euxnekshave you done something like that before?06:31
nonetar xvzf file.tar.gz06:32
roflpanda!sound06:32
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems06:32
euxneksit might be better to try to find the software in synaptic first06:32
mempfwhy does the installation of nvidia drivers (not from repos) require the removal of restricted-modules?06:32
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nonecd whateverdir06:32
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none./configure06:32
nonemake06:32
nonemake install06:32
euxneks^  what he said06:32
nonedont forget to pray while typing06:32
euxnekshowever, it's good to use synaptic becuase it's nice and easy and not so frightening for new users.. =)06:33
euxnekshaha06:33
wickedpuppyactually make and make install would require sudo ...06:33
euxnekstrue06:33
adamok .tar.gz extraced/untared06:33
adamextracted*06:33
euxnekshave you tried searching for your software on synaptic first though?06:33
adamya06:33
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euxneksoh ok06:33
wickedpuppywhat is it that you are trying to install ?06:33
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euxneksthen yeah what none said06:33
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Audimagealthough more "frightening" APT does a much better job in my opinion06:34
euxnekswell yeah06:34
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euxneksbaby steps though eh?06:34
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euxnekshowever, you have to start somewhere06:35
euxneks=)06:35
Audimagei am only 2-3 weeks old in linux time, and at first the terminal was a bit overwhelming...but it is easy to get used to, and once you have some sort of idea about how things work, it is pretty nice06:35
rwscoldHi there I have a question about a tv tuner I have an ATI Tv wonder elite and I cant seem to get the drivers installed any help would be great06:35
nonewell i killed ubuntu twice trying to dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy eft06:35
adamlibmtp. adds limited MTP support to linux so i can use my Creative Zen. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=15874506:35
thoreauputicadd/remove programs is actually quite good in a basic sort of way06:35
noneseems like a search and replace in the sources.list and dist-upgrade isnt ehnough06:35
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ciphexhey guys, I'm having trouble with an audio card. It's seems to be incorrectly identified by lspci: 0000:00:14.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)06:36
euxneksand sometimes compiling from source gets you some up-to-date features06:36
adamok it's extraced now what do i do to compile?06:36
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adamextracted*06:36
thoreauputiceuxneks: yes, i always compile the latest version of fluxbox :)06:36
wickedpuppyadam, scroll up pls :P06:36
adamk06:37
Admiral_Chicagoadam, do you have build-essential installed06:37
euxnekshrm.. fluxbox06:37
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thoreauputiceuxneks: don't speak ill of fluxbox ! I have a love affair with fluxbox!06:37
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euxneksNo.. I had to look it up =)06:38
thoreauputicheh06:38
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thoreauputic:)06:38
thoreauputiceuxneks: http://fluxbox.org06:38
wickedpuppyfluxbox is son of blackbox .. or daughter of06:38
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: yes pretty much06:38
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euxneksyeah I just found that .. =)06:38
adami don't see where u said how to compile06:39
ciphexany ideas on how i could find out why an Adio card is being seen as VGA compatible....hopefully get it recognized correctly as Sound Blaster Live!...?06:39
ciphexAudio*06:39
thoreauputicadam: install build-essential first if you haven't already, then cd to the directory the extracted tarball made06:39
euxneksadam:  cd into the directory you just made06:39
w30can anyone help me get my cups error_log file to be owned by root and lpadmin instead of lp?06:39
euxneksooh good point06:39
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yockI have locale problems06:40
thoreauputicadam: its always good to read the README file in there, if there is one06:40
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thoreauputicadam: and if an older version of the app exists in the Ubuntu repos, run  sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>06:41
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abortdanyone know how to change the font size inside of a program like adept or xchat?06:41
thoreauputicadam: that can save a lot of googling and wasted time06:41
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thoreauputicabortd: adept is qt - I think there's a qt-config package that lets you do that. xchat is gtk2 so it has the gnome options06:42
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yocklocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory06:42
yocklocale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory06:42
yocklocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory06:42
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abortdthoreauputic: but i want to do it for every program i did it last night with something06:42
digitalpariahhello?06:43
yockI need help understanding what this means and how to fix it06:43
thoreauputicabortd: well, you need a different tool for gtk2 and qt06:43
abortdwhat can i do for qt then?06:43
Xenguythoreauputic: I thought it was some font configuration in gnome-control-center  ?06:43
thoreauputicyock: what isgenerating that error?06:43
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thoreauputicXenguy: for gnome apps yes06:44
yockthoreauputic: perl apparently06:44
digitalpariahhow do you ctivate disk manager in Edgy Eft 6.10?06:44
Xenguythoreauputic: ahh06:44
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yockIt started doing this as I prepared for an upgrade to Edgy06:44
matt_can someone tell me how to make my flash sound comeback, after a while sound goes on flash movies06:44
Xenguyabortd: kcontrol  ?06:44
yockbefore I started downloading and installing packages that is06:44
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yocknow that the upgrade is complete I still have the problem06:45
w30abortd, you can do some stuff with System-Prefernces-Font in the Gnome menu06:45
thoreauputicXenguy: abortd System Preferences - Font for gnome06:45
roflpandahow do I switch firefox back to esd?06:45
roflpandai think i figured out my problem.06:45
roflpandahaha06:45
^Downhow do I install the english language package?06:45
thoreauputicXenguy: for qt, try apt-cache search qt config06:46
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thoreauputicah06:46
thoreauputic!qt3-qtconfig06:46
ubotuqt3-qtconfig: The Qt3 Configuration Application. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 320 kB06:46
Xenguythoreauputic: interesting; no kcontrol either that I can see06:47
roflpandayarg! where is it?!? haha06:47
thoreauputicXenguy: I think you can do it in kcontrol too - but if you only have a few qt apps that's overkill06:47
Xenguythoreauputic: kcontrol looks like gnome's gnome-control-center06:48
Xenguyfor KDE/QT06:48
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thoreauputicXenguy: yes more or less - but kcontrol is much more complex really06:49
Xenguyhmm06:49
rbdhey guys, what's the command to create the rc symlinks to a script in /etc/init.d (so that it starts automatically on startup and stops on shutdown for a given runlevel)06:49
thoreauputicXenguy: you can get lost in kcontrol ;)06:49
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thoreauputicrbd: update-rc.d06:50
rbdthanks06:50
Xenguythoreauputic: yeah, configuration takes stubborn patience sometimes ;-)06:50
thoreauputicrbd: you need to read the man - it's pretty straightforward06:50
matt_how can i get my flash sound back06:51
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Xenguyrbd: I have used 'rcconf' sometimes06:51
thoreauputicmatt_: what caused you to lose it?06:51
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matt_i dont know, it works for a while then after a few vids it goes06:52
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matt_i am at youtube, i tested regular sound and that works fine06:53
w30can anyone help me get my cups error_log file to be owned by root and lpadmin instead of lp? Something keeps changing it to lp.06:55
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amicrawlehow do i remove a dir in root06:55
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amicrawlei did a rm  and give me errors06:55
amicrawlehello06:56
amicrawleany body here?06:56
w30amicrawle, rm -R works fo me.06:56
w30amicrawle, the minus R is for recursive06:57
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amicrawleok now i need to make a dir in that same place06:57
amicrawlenever mind06:58
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roflpandawhat's the command to change none to aoss in firefox?06:58
roflpandathat you put in the terminal, i screwed up and can't get firefox to open cause i changed it to esd.06:59
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w30amicrawle, do a mkdir nameofdirectorythatyouwant  but be in the place you want to make it or put the full path in06:59
surfaceamicrawle:  sudo rm -rf06:59
Davo_DinkumIs there a reason why my dapper thinkpad randomly freezes on me?07:00
Davo_DinkumIt's done it daily for the past week07:00
surfaceDavo_Dinkum:  because it is too cold?07:00
Davo_Dinkumhah07:00
Davo_Dinkuma07:00
thoreauputicroflpanda: it goes in a configuration file - you need to edit that ( can't remember the directory and file though, sorry)07:00
Davo_Dinkumim serious07:00
roflpandayah i know that.07:00
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surfaceDavo_Dinkum:  did u use gaim? or wireless?07:00
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Davo_Dinkumi have to pull the plug on it, it wont respond at all07:01
roflpandabut i mean, i can't even get online to find it.07:01
thoreauputicroflpanda: google aoss firefox and you'll find it  ( put linus or ubuntu inthe search terms )07:01
thoreauputicah07:01
thoreauputiccatch 2207:01
Davo_Dinkumsurface: gaim via ethernet (i have wireless, cant figure out how to set it up)07:01
w30Davo_Dinkum, I solved my freeze problems with more swap, swap should be memory size in my opinion07:01
Davo_Dinkumwhy?07:01
roflpandai can't google it.07:01
roflpandahahaha07:01
roflpandai can't even get on firefox07:01
Davo_Dinkumw30: how can i increase swap then?07:02
Davo_Dinkumonly got 56mb ram07:02
surfaceDavo_Dinkum:  via ethernet also freeze ? can u still ctrl +alt F2 to go to term?07:02
Davo_Dinkum*256!07:02
Davo_Dinkumsurface: didnt try ctrl alt F207:02
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thoreauputicroflpanda: sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc then put  FIREFOX_DSP=aoss07:03
thoreauputicroflpanda: courtesy of google :)07:03
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surfaceDavo_Dinkum:  just want to check is it total freeze or ur X freeze.07:03
roflpandathanks haha07:03
Davo_Dinkumsurface: i use it plugged mostly, so i can use gaim over ethernet07:03
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thoreauputicroflpanda: :)07:03
euxneksOMFG07:03
w30Davo_Dinkum, if you have extra partitions delete one of those and make you swap partition bigger or else add a swap file.07:03
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euxneksIT WORKS07:03
euxneksFlannel: thanks so much07:03
surfaceDavo_Dinkum:  can't get ur plugged thingy, wat is tat?07:03
euxneksthat worked!07:04
roflpandayou are the best.07:04
roflpandaI'm back online!07:04
Davo_Dinkumsurface: plugged into power+ethernet i mean07:04
roflpandaHURRAY haha07:04
Davo_Dinkumw30: i have whatever partitions the default dapper install puts on there07:04
roflpandaoh i found a link to allow software mixing with esd and aoss07:04
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wayfarerHello, I have a problem with my SBLive card: no sound. I had the same problem with my previous distro, and forgot hot I got it working07:04
roflpandait's on the ubuntu website (wiki or whatever) but...07:05
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roflpandaOr, I guess I didn't.07:05
anmarHello Guys. Any idea who shoujld I talk to regarding live CDs07:06
roflpandaWhoever just helped me is my new best friend.07:06
roflpandaWe'll be bffs forever.07:06
Flannelanmar: just ask your question, if anyone knows the answer they'll help07:06
Davo_DinkumIs there a guide on the forums how to increase swap size?07:06
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w30Davo_Dinkum, you can open Gparted or QTParted and check swap size on the swap partition or else check in proc.07:07
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anmarFlannel: sure. I want to remaster Ubuntu with custom changes and modifications. is there a guide to do that. ?07:07
Flannelanmar: sure.  You want the liveCD or the Alternate CD?07:07
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anmarFlannel: using the LiveCD as the base of my project07:07
surfaceDavo_Dinkum:  did u try google it? i think i might be easy to get, if put ubuntu keyword07:07
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w30Davo_Dinkum, cat /proc/swaps is the command to use07:07
Flannelanmar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e0607:08
flipfonequestion. after upgrading my kernel lik 18 times grub has grown rather large. before i edit it, should i uninstall some of the older kernels?07:08
Davo_Dinkumgparted07:08
Davo_Dinkumoops07:08
anmarFlannel: dude.... this is awsome... Thanks a million07:08
Flannelflipfone: yeah, just uninstall them with apt (or whatever frontend), their grub entries will go away07:09
flipfoneFlannel thx a million!07:09
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wayfarerHas anyone an idea on getting SBlive soundcard to work?07:11
ciphexanybody familiar enough with hardware recognition to help me out with a sound car problem? standard SB Live card07:11
ciphexwhoa07:11
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ciphexhey dude07:11
wayfarerweird07:11
ciphexfor real07:11
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amicrawleDR_wills  need help07:11
ciphexwhuts the trouble with yours?07:11
wayfarerno sound07:12
grimxcan i install Windows on a Linux machine07:12
amicrawlejust extracted  tito roms  from a disk07:12
ciphexwhat does lspci tell you?07:12
wayfarerI got it to work under my previous distro, but forgot how I did it07:12
amicrawlemame sees them but says there bad07:12
ciphexabout the SB Live07:12
ciphexi had this card running under badger but it's not working in drake07:13
roflpandaok interesting.07:13
roflpandai changed xmms to esd07:13
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grimxive downloade an Windows.iso and trying to write it to a cd using Gnome Baker.. but having trouble07:13
roflpandaand am running firefox with aoss07:13
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roflpandanow i can have youtube loud, and my music down low.07:13
roflpanda:)07:14
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DJJUMis edgy safe-ish yet?07:14
ciphexwayfarer: have you run "lspci" in in your terminal to see if the card is being recognized?07:14
wayfarerciphex what is lspci?07:14
w30ciphex, try this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards07:14
hantu!edgy07:14
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:14
wayfareroh, ok07:15
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grimxneed help with writting to cd with Gnome Baker07:15
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w30ciphex, you driver needs to be:snd-emu10k1= EMU10K1 (SB Live!)07:16
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roflpandaMoral of this story kids?07:16
roflpandaREAD EVERYTHING YOU CAN07:16
wayfareryep, it sees it, but it also shows the hateful on-board cmedia chip07:16
ciphexwayfarer you may try disabling on board sound in the BIOS07:17
grimxcan i install Windows in place of Linux???07:17
ciphexi read earlier that it can interfere and BIOS disabling cleared things up for some people07:17
surfacegrimx:  yes with vmware or qemu07:18
Madpilotgrimx, what type of CD are you trying to burn?07:18
wayfarerciphex I thought I did that, but I'll check again. I didn't have to before.07:18
grimxi downloaded a windows.iso07:18
grimxwant to write it to cd with Gnome Baker07:18
surfacegrimx:  windows.iso its live cd ??07:18
surfacegrimx:  no need, just right click and select burn07:19
w30grimx, yes just apt-get XP-6.06-Bill.deb07:19
grimxno install 30 day trial07:19
Madpilotgrimx, ISOs can be burned from Ubuntu's file manager - just right-click, choose Burn To Disc07:19
amicrawleneed mame help please07:19
ciphexw30: i will check out that page. im not sure if it's my driver though... lspci reports: 0000:00:14.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)07:19
jackeline__anybody speak spanish?07:19
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DJJUMhola07:19
ZahrberSi07:19
amicrawlei got the right files  but it sayes in right07:19
grimx oh thanx Madpilot07:20
wayfarerhmmm, when I type in alsamixer in terminal, it shows only sblive07:20
Madpilot!es07:20
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:20
Gnupgphello everyone.......07:20
Gnupgpwho know's anything about getting a irq 9 message when installing ubuntu?07:20
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GnupgpIts a dual processor board, with an intel chipset07:21
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grimxso when its done just reboot?? Madpilot07:21
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b14ck73425i need to find a song can anyone help?07:22
b14ck73425"Money, Success, Fame, Glamour (remix)" - Fleix Da Housecat vs. Pop Tarts07:22
Gnupgpsong?07:22
b14ck73425from pary monster07:22
Madpilotgrimx, probably. Although why anyone would voluntarily inflict Windows on themselves is beyond me...07:22
b14ck73425party monster07:22
b14ck73425*07:22
grimxthe media .. thats why07:22
Gnupgpwhy would you come to a ubuntu forum for a song?07:22
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Madpilotb14ck73425, #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of question, thanks07:22
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Gnupgpso I take it no one is familiar with irq 9 hardward conflicts when installing ubuntu?07:23
Gnupgp*hardware , excuse me07:23
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flipfoneFlannel i tried this sudo apt-get remove kernel-2.6.15-26-k7 and it errors and says can find that package? any ideas?07:24
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grimxplus Madpilot  when i'm on Google video search and try to run a video i can't hear it  but i can see it07:25
Madpilotgrimx, known issue; that's a Flash problem.07:26
grimxoh07:26
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grimxi have the uBuntu cd if i want to come back to Linux07:27
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vashypoohCan someone help me get my x800 3d working? I have ran through the guides and checked forums and am sorta stumped.07:27
wayfarerI went into alsamixer and turned up all the sliders, but still no sound. Not even with the headphones plugged directly in the cd drive07:27
Flannelflipfone: it's linux-image-version-version-etc-etc07:28
roflpandahurraaaaayyyy07:28
Flannelflipfone: and, make sure you include the --purge07:28
roflpandawhat kinda soundcard do you have?07:28
wayfarersblive07:29
flipfoneFlannel thank you again07:29
Gnupgpanyone know about irq 9?07:29
roflpandayou know, isn't that one that actually is suppose to work right in there?07:29
GnupgpTrying to install ubuntu and getting an irq 9 error and stalling on mount root file system07:29
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wayfarerIt worked under my previous distro, but I forgot what I did to make it work07:30
OmniDHow do I get controllers to work?07:30
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|thundersup all, how do I change the 'type' of an entry in gconfeditor?  There is a few settings set as integer that should be string, and I cant change them because the combobox to do so is grery'd.07:31
roflpanda<---listening to music faintly while watching you tube.07:31
roflpandahahaha07:31
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userbnhola07:32
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DJAdmiralEmergency help needed! I have a 40 gig hard disk and went with dual boot giving 30 gigs of it to ubuntu and all of a sudden I find out that ubuntu has only 6 gigs and windoze took the remaining 24 gigs - HELP!07:34
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DJAdmiralI need to get these 24 gigs back to ubuntu!07:34
richiefrich!wifi07:34
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:34
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DJAdmiralAnybody? please?07:35
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hockyhairis it possible to turn on direct rendering with a ati card without recompiling the kernal07:35
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DJAdmiralI have a 40 gig hard disk and went with dual boot giving 30 gigs of it to ubuntu and all of a sudden I find out that ubuntu has only 6 gigs and windoze took the remaining 24 gigs - HELP!07:35
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DJAdmiralhey HeavyThinker07:36
DJAdmiralthink you could help me out with this weird phenomenon?07:36
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hockyhair<< trying to enable dri without recompiling the kernal please help07:37
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wayfarerI think the card is muted, but I can't see how to get it unmuted07:37
roflpandadownload alsa07:38
roflpandause alsamixer07:38
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DJAdmiralANYBODY? Please? this is an emergency!07:38
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none_DJAdmiral,  use Gparted and shirnk ur winblowz partitioon and grow ur ubuntu one07:38
none_http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/07:38
wayfarerI ran alsamixer in terminal, but it looks like there is a )) under the master slider.07:38
DJAdmiralnone_: easy to do with GParted?07:38
wayfarerI mean 0007:38
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wwwdotcomHello, I have finally burned a copy of ubuntu to disk and I am trying to now install it on an old imac g3.  When I boot the computer it loads 9.1 OS07:39
roflpandaso go to it and press up07:39
none_yes07:39
Flannelwwwdotcom: you need to change your boot order to boot to the CD instead of the HD first07:39
DJAdmiralwwwdotcom: your bios boot settings are not set up correctly07:39
MistaEDwwwdotcom: holding the c button down?07:39
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wwwdotcomok07:40
DJAdmiralnone_: Thanks a million! I'll be back in a bit if this works07:40
wwwdotcomHow do I change the boot settings on a mac?07:40
roflpandaYah that took me a minute too. Haha07:40
roflpandaI was like "it should load up" and was read to be really angry about it.07:40
MistaEDwwwdotcom: just hold down c to boot from cdrom07:40
wwwdotcomok07:41
DJAdmiral!gparted07:41
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php07:41
DJAdmiralpraise the lord07:41
none_lol07:41
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DJAdmiralI am SAVED!!! *bends down to his knees and prays for blessings to be showered on none_*07:42
DJAdmiralThank you so much - really07:43
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none_np07:43
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wwwdotcomoh this is awesome07:43
wwwdotcomLOL07:43
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DJAdmiralbrb while i go show windoze who's boss.07:44
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wayfarerOk, while I'm figuring that out, how about telling me hoto get my  nVidia Corporation NV15DDR [GeForce2 Ti]  running?07:45
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fooHmm, when I do hostname it returns name ... but when I do hostname -f it returns the hostname + fqdn ... how can I modify the fqdn? I did hostname newhost.something.com ... but now I do hostname and it says newhost.something.com ... how can I fix this?07:47
wayfarerI dl'd the drivers, but can't get it to work07:47
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screechnigcatjust finished upgrading to edgy. this time i decided to go it alone (without automatix)07:54
wayfarerI found something on the ubuntu site, I'll try that07:54
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roflpandaisn't edgy still under development?07:55
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Flannelroflpanda: right, beta came out today.07:55
Xnixdoes anyone know if there are suspend2 kernel builds for edgy anywhere?07:55
screechnigcati was searching for java in the repos and i found to versions - Sun Java 5 and Blackdown Java 1.4 - whats's the difference and which should i install ?07:55
MentholzAre there beta screenshots someh07:56
Mentholzwhere07:56
Flannel#ubuntu+1 for edgy support07:56
Flannelscreechnigcat: you probably want the sun version07:56
screechnigcatFlannel: Whats the diff ?07:56
roflpandayah but, i'd want to wait until things were finalized myself.07:56
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ciphexdoes anyone have drake running on a box with a working SB Live! audio card.... if so could you share your lspci and lsmod listings for the correct setup?07:56
Flannelscreechnigcat: one is Sun's official version, the other (blackdown) is an independant development effort, it doesn't have full compatability, and doesn't work with some programs07:57
agenteoanybody knows a repository to add vim7 to the current xubuntu? thanks07:57
roflpandanow i have to find out how to sync flash in firefox.07:57
roflpandacause flash+totally not synced07:57
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screechnigcatFlannel: ok thanks. will get sun java07:57
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MentholzI want to use Ubuntu fulltime is this possible?07:59
roflpandayes07:59
wwwdotcomis it supposed to go blank when installing from the cd?07:59
screechnigcatMentholz: if u love linux it is07:59
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: no08:00
roflpandaare people using more than one sec?08:00
roflpandaerr sn08:00
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screechnigcatwhats a "sn" ?08:00
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wwwdotcomIt stalls at "configuring power management" and then goes blank, and I can get a cursor in the upper left08:00
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: are u able to reach the desktop ?08:01
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wwwdotcomscreech, how would I do that?08:01
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screechnigcatwwwdotcom: were did you get your cd ? shipit ?08:01
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: are you using a live cd or a text based installer ?08:02
MentholzI like Windows I just dont like the fact I feel like a puppet with Microsofts hand up my A$$. I think windows is more clean cut then windows I just love the philosophy behind linux and opensource. I have a dele08:02
Mentholz+ma08:02
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wwwdotcomscreeching, I have a burned cd of the .iso file08:02
Mentholzthen linux*08:03
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: is the ISO a live cd or a text based installer cd ?08:03
Mentholzbad england08:03
wwwdotcomscreeching, how do I find that out?08:03
Ascwwwdotcom: I tend to recommend the alternate install CD because fewer things can go wrong.08:03
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wwwdotcomAsc, I have no clue on the difference08:03
AscMentholz: I recommend trying Linux, but keeping a windows install handy in case you need it.08:04
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: if u see nothing but text and no GUI and cursor and all then its a text based08:04
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w30Mentholz, I left MSWindows years ago and my hemoroids don't bother me any more. ;=)08:04
wwwdotcomscreeching, then it is text based, looks like dos, but I can't seem to feed it any commands08:04
wwwdotcomscreeching, is there something I can do from this point?08:04
AscToo much information, man ;p08:05
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screechnigcatwwwdotcom: wow ! text based instalers are actually having problems ? try rebooting man08:05
wwwdotcomscreeching, if I reboot, then 9.1 loads08:05
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screechnigcat9.1 ?????/08:05
screechnigcatwhats 9.1 ?08:06
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wwwdotcomscreeching, mac os9.108:06
AscMac OS?08:06
wwwdotcomyes, I am trying to change the os08:06
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screechnigcatmac user huh ? and u never upgraded to OS X ?08:06
DiegoAren't they up to 10.6 or something?08:06
roflpandaHow do I sync flash videos?08:06
screechnigcatanyways, did u get a PowerPc ISO ?08:06
Davo_Dinkum10.4.7 currently08:06
AscWell, ctrl-option-c-d will make it boot from the CD i think.08:06
Davo_Dinkum10.5 coming soon08:06
wwwdotcomscreeching, I am a windows user who got this cheapo mac for 20 bucks, and I thought I would turn it into a music player with linux program08:07
Davo_Dinkumwhat mac?08:07
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screechnigcatwwwdotcom: try what Asc told you08:07
roflpanda!flash08:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:07
screechnigcat!fonts08:07
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto08:07
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer08:07
wwwdotcomAsc, it boots from the CD, and it appears to start installing, but then it stalls at power management08:08
wwwdotcomand that's when the blank screen appears08:08
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Davo_Dinkumwhich mac wwwdotcom?08:08
AscEh, itunes is better than any of the linux music players I've seen.  So long as you're not trying to use any formats it doesn't support.08:08
wwwdotcomDavo, powerpc g308:08
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screechnigcatwwwdotcom: did u get a PowerPC ISO ?08:08
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wwwdotcomscreeching I believe so, let me get the address08:09
Davo_Dinkumitunes is bloated08:09
wwwdotcomubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso08:09
roflpandaI like xmms08:09
wwwdotcomthat's what I got08:09
roflpandait reminds me of winamp08:09
Davo_Dinkumthat should work wwwdotcom08:09
noctiwwwdotcom, what's the powerpc iso?08:09
wwwdotcomyea, it looked like it was08:09
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wwwdotcomnocti, sorry, I don't understand that question08:10
Davo_Dinkumwwwdotcom: hold down C to boot from CD08:10
wwwdotcomDavo, I have done that already, and it installed but then stalled after it got to power management08:10
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: do what Davo_Dinkum suggested08:10
CSWookieI'm having a weird problems.  I installed ubuntu, and things were working fine, but I'm having difficulty with some (not all) curses-based programs.08:10
roflpandahow is edgy so far?08:10
noctiwwwdotcom, what does it do? is it ubuntu with mac de?08:10
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: oh u mean the install finished and ur having probelms booting ?08:10
roflpandai wanna know, this is all riding on me keeping ubuntu08:11
wwwdotcomnocti, I don't know what "mac de" means08:11
screechnigcatroflpanda: its ok. aint that much of a diff08:11
roflpandahopefully they get on the ball with the whole sound thing.08:11
krautmoin08:11
screechnigcatroflpanda: what sound thing ?08:11
AscI hate winamp's playlist support.  I'm using banshee even though it's slow and doesn't do m4a, just for the itunes stype08:11
wwwdotcomscreeching, ok, I put the cd it, I load it up, and then I press enter.  It says "boot: live", it loads up "ubuntu" in the center of the screen, then it proceeds to install things.08:11
wwwdotcomWhen it gets to power managaement, it stalls.08:11
wwwdotcomand then the screen blanks out.08:11
CSWookieLike, the ubuntu setup program and mutt are off kilter, but irssi is fine.08:11
roflpanda2 apps not being able to play sound at once.08:12
Asc*type playlists08:12
roflpandabut i figured it out.08:12
roflpandait's backwards, but it'll do.08:12
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agenteoanybody knows a repository to add vim7 to the current xubuntu? thanks08:12
noctiwwwdotcom, oh it's ubuntu for the mac, dumb me :) thought it was a new WM or something :)08:12
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: never isntalled ubuntu on a mac bfor. so i cant help u much. is there a #ubuntu-mac channel or something guys ?08:12
roflpandai need to find the penny arcade channel.08:13
roflpandahaha08:13
harisundIs anybody here using a Ubuntu box as a router? I want to know why my clients behind the Ubuntu box are unable to access IRC?08:13
roflpandarouter maybe? port fowarding?08:13
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Ascwwwdotcom: it sounds a bit like the CD is bad, but that's just a guess08:13
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roflpandai had so much trouble with that stupid port fowarding bullcrap.08:13
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harisundroflpanda: port forwarding works fine.08:13
roflpandahmm.08:14
harisundroflpanda: What port forwarding would I need to do to get something like IRC working?08:14
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roflpandai actually had trouble with xchat the first day i had ubuntu08:14
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roflpandai left it up, and it kicked me off.08:14
roflpandawell you might have to get into your router and foward some port.08:14
screechnigcatany other recommended font packages other than msttcorefonts ?08:14
rwscoldHi guys anyone know anything about tv tuners????? specifically ati tv wonders?08:14
roflpandaoh wait.08:14
Healotrwscold: i would if i have that tuner :-08:15
harisundroflpanda: hmmm... actually Linux acts as an awesome router .. I have had no problems with it whatsoever....08:15
rwscoldhealot what tuner do u have?08:15
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roflpandaWell I'm not having trouble obviously now.08:15
roflpandaBut xchat didn't like me leaving it up for some reason.08:15
harisundroflpanda: actually I have an IRSSI session on screen 24x7 ...08:16
Healotnone :008:16
harisundIRSSI - command line IRC client .. you familiar with that?08:16
rwscoldoh08:16
rwscoldwell its killing me trying to install this one08:16
Healoti watch tv with a TV :)08:16
screechnigcatlol08:16
rwscoldwell i want it as a dvr08:16
Healoti do video recording with my mac08:16
screechnigcatrwscold: i tried too. and then i gave up08:16
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screechnigcatrwscold: now my tv tuner card is just rotting inside my cabinet08:17
rwscoldwhat card?08:17
Healotit might a hassle now, but next year i hope ati will provide some kind of binary driver of all-in-wonder08:17
screechnigcatrwscold: ASUS i think. i dont kno beyond that08:17
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MentholzIs Ubuntu very stable?08:17
Healotrwscold: tried the ati all-in-wonder driver yet?08:17
screechnigcatMentholz: VERY08:17
rwscoldits not an all in wonder08:18
Healotuse at own risk though08:18
harisundMentholz: as stable as you want it to be ..08:18
harisundMentholz: what do you intend to run Ubuntu for?08:18
rwscoldits a TV WONDER ELITE ha08:18
MentholzWindows Replacement08:18
Healotrwscold: yes, the driver of tv wonder is included i think08:18
adami need help figuring out some errors in compiling. here's the two errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25142/  I can't find these packages anywhere.08:18
screechnigcatMentholz: Perfect choice08:18
rwscoldwhere do i find that driver?08:18
Healotati.com08:18
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rwscoldok08:19
roflpandai have konversation now.08:19
rwscoldlet me try worth a shot atleast08:19
roflpandai like it08:19
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screechnigcatGAIM sucks for IRC08:19
roflpandaSURE DOES08:19
harisundMentholz: are you running Windows currently? You might be better off preparing yourself first, before jumping in and then complaining later on ... though there might not be much to complain about :)08:19
Healotrwscold: don't ask for support though, rather experimental...08:19
harisundscreechnigcat: it sure does. I agree.08:19
MentholzI run XP home.08:19
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roflpandaIt wouldn't let me sign in, kept signing me in under the wrong name even though I had the right one up.,08:19
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harisundscreechnigcat: gaim just isn't meant for it. Goes against the Unix principle of 'do one thing and do it right'08:19
AscMentholz: As an operating system it's great.  But it's not uncommon for people to run into peculiar problems (usually hardware related) with just about any version of Linux.08:20
Mentholzthanks08:20
harisundMentholz: how would you rate your level of expertise with Windows?08:20
screechnigcatMentholz: ADVICE - keep XP and use Linux on a separate partition. if u love Linux that much then, consider ditching XO08:20
Mentholzexpert08:20
adamanyone know what and where I can get "libgnomeui-2.0" and "gtk+-2.0" packages?08:20
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MentholzIve been using it since dos 6.2208:20
Mentholz3.1108:20
rwscoldhealot haha i cant get support anyways nobody really seems to address my specific card08:20
Mentholzthe good old days.08:20
AscMentholz: do you have a spare partition or drive that you could put Linux on?08:20
harisundMentholz: ok .. then you know how to 'troubleshoot' when things go wrong ... good ..08:20
Mentholzyeah08:20
Healotoops my bad... those are windows drivers08:21
adamwindows 3.11 was awesome08:21
Healotrwscold: it's really ati's fault08:21
screechnigcatharisund: if he knows enuff to get on an IRC channel bfor using linux, then he knows enuff to use it.08:21
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harisundhmmm... my earliest Windows was Win98, and earliest Linux was RH 6 I think :) ..08:21
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rwscoldHealot I agree but there is a way08:21
harisundgood logic screechnigcat ... indeed.08:21
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Healot!wifi08:22
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:22
screechnigcatharisund: not me though. i used to think IRC was the place where the big baddies (the devs) used to hang out. i was scared to shitt08:22
roflpandaI thought I would have to make everything on ubuntu/linux myself.08:22
roflpandaLike build everything I use by hand.08:23
screechnigcatROFL08:23
roflpandayah srsly.08:23
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roflpandai always avoided irc, like the plague.08:23
harisundroflpanda: I would suggest you try Gentoo .. you can literlally 'make' everything yourself .. after './configure' perhaps :D08:23
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roflpandaoh no it's better this way, harisund.08:23
imbrandonbig baddies ?08:23
harisundroflpanda: yeah I know. Just kidding ;-)08:23
roflpandai know nothing about compiling or building.08:23
roflpandahahah08:23
roflpanda:)08:23
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screechnigcati was a 10 year old what did u expect ?08:24
twbAnyone know why Ubuntu apparently fails to get past grub when I replace my trusty Radeon 9000 with a "Fire GL2"?08:24
roflpandamy computer had irc on it, and i never figured out how.08:24
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roflpandamy laptop that is.08:24
harisundroflpanda: computer had irc on it? You mean an IRC client?08:24
screechnigcati agree08:24
FujitsuNeither am I, I hope :P08:24
roflpandayah08:24
roflpandaIt had mIRC on it.08:24
adami need help with two errors i get when compiling a sourceforge program. i need "libgnomeui-2.0" and "gtk+-2.0" packages, and they aren't in Adaptec so IDK where to find them08:24
roflpandaI never used it until last year.08:24
twbadam: `adaptec'?08:25
screechnigcati never used IRC until a week ago08:25
imbrandonadam, try packages.ubuntu.com ( and i think you mean adept )08:25
harisundadam are you familiar with the command line?08:25
adamsynaptec*08:25
roflpandaThen when I had my Mac, I couldn't find anything that worked for me.08:25
roflpandaSo I tried bitchx i think, and didn't like it.08:25
Fujitsuadam: Install libgtk2.0-dev and libgnomeui-dev.08:25
roflpandaAnd then about a month ago, i was like I R IRC08:25
adamnot very much yet.08:25
screechnigcatroflpanda: Really ? i thought mac's "just work" ?08:25
roflpandaI <3 IRC alot.08:25
harisundadam: do what Fujitsu told you . that might work08:25
twbadam: apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev08:25
roflpandaHahah Mac's suck.08:25
Fujitsuharisund, it will work :)08:26
roflpandaWell no.08:26
Madpilotroflpanda & others - #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat, please08:26
roflpandaThey are alright, but if you don't have the latest os you are screwed with programs.08:26
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eexpresshi, i compiled a wine 0.9.22, and now uninstall it, and install the 0.9.17(deb). but the default execute of wine is (/usr/local/bin/wine), how can i modify this to directlly path.08:26
twbadam: apt-get install libgnomeui-dev08:26
screechnigcatMadpilot: OK08:26
twbadam: those are the two package names you need.08:26
harisundcorrection: adam, try what Fujitsu said (install libgtk2.0-dev and libgnomeui-dev using whatever program you use for installing/searching packages)08:26
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harisundby the way adam, which source forge program are you compiling? Perhaps you might want to look into a build-dep option ..08:27
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Naked_SnakeWhen I get Ubuntu installed, will I be able to run wine?08:28
twbNaked_Snake: if you install wine, yes.08:28
Naked_SnakeOk08:28
putrihey08:28
Naked_SnakeI guess I'll tackle that when I get it08:28
Naked_SnakeI've never used Ubuntu or Linux before, but when they offer free CDs shipped to your house, that's a pretty good deal :-D08:29
screechnigcatNaked_Snake: But if u want to run mainly windows software. then i suggest u get Microsoft Windows XP08:29
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Naked_SnakeI got 3 Ubuntu (PC, 64 and Mac) and 2 Kubuntu CDs (PC and 64) coming my way :-D08:29
harisundNaked_Snake: what do you intend to run Wine with?08:29
Naked_Snake?08:29
Naked_SnakeUm, specs?08:29
twbNaked_Snake: certainly notepad.exe and winmine.exe work fine for me with Ubuntu 6.0608:29
Naked_SnakeIs that what you mean?08:29
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Naked_SnakeO_o08:30
harisundNaked_Snake: I meant which Windows applications do you intend to run with Wine?08:30
FujitsuNaked_Snake, applications, I believe, not specs.08:30
twbNaked_Snake: note that wine only works on Ubuntu/x86, not Ubuntu/PPC.08:30
screechnigcatNaked_Snake: what kind of software do u want to run under wine ?08:30
cpk2Naked_Snake: what do you need to run that you need wine?08:30
Naked_SnakeReally?08:30
Naked_SnakeUm, games08:30
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roflpandaIs it possible to run mIRC with wine?08:30
twbGames do not work well under Wine.08:30
cpk2twb: ???08:30
Fujitsuroflpanda, yes, but why would you want to?08:30
Naked_SnakeOh08:30
Fujitsutwb, some do.08:30
Naked_SnakemIRC as well, yes08:30
roflpandaI like mIRC08:30
Naked_SnakeAIM, Winamp, etc.08:30
twbWell, some do, most don't.08:30
screechnigcatNaked_Snake: get Transgaming Cedega08:30
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DarkMageZNaked_Snake, tho, quake4 & unreal tournament 2004 are available for linux08:30
Naked_SnakeAlso, Doom08:30
cpk2there are plenty of gaims that run fine with wine/cedega08:30
Naked_SnakeDoom is open source anyway08:30
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harisundNaked_Snake: trust me, you have good substitutes for each of that .. for games however, I do not know ...08:31
twbNaked_Snake: there are Linux equivalents of Winamp, AIM and mIRC that are better in every way.08:31
Naked_Snake:-/08:31
wwwdotcomscreeching, I think I found the problem.  When you install, you use the command "live", but there is also "live-powerpc".  I am trying that now08:31
Naked_SnakeHeh08:31
Naked_SnakeI guess08:31
roflpandamIRC will always be my <308:31
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screechnigcatNaked_Snake: AIM and Winamp have linux replacements. if ur not going to use even them, then i dont see the point of u using linux08:31
cpk2Naked_Snake: there are plenty of programs that are just like winamp and aim08:31
DarkMageZroflpanda, try xchat :P08:31
twbscreechnigcat: hear, hear.08:31
roflpandaHahah08:31
roflpandaBeen there done that.08:31
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: ok. good luck08:31
Naked_Snakek, I guess so08:31
roflpandaxchat confused me.08:31
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Naked_SnakeI gues I'll check 'em out08:31
Naked_Snakeguess*08:32
shriphaniguys can someone tell me about a live cd that gives me just bash08:32
roflpandahey someone else in sd!08:32
marcWhat do I need to install to be able to view all available wireless networks?  Whether secured or unsecured?08:32
Naked_SnakeI wonder if there is any free dial-up? :-P08:32
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roflpandabut how do i run wine in the first place?08:32
roflpandai mean you apt-get obviously.08:32
Healotdrink it08:32
cpk2marc: nothing, just do iwlist scan08:32
shriphaniroflpanda, wine PATH08:32
roflpandahahah08:32
Healot!info wine08:32
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB08:32
roflpandawine path like wine mirc.exe or something?08:32
harisundmarc if you are comfortable with the command line, you could scan the networks using 'iwlist $interface scan' where $interface is eth1,wlan0 or whatever08:32
Fujitsu!wine08:32
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:32
shriphaniyes08:32
screechnigcatroflpanda: install winetools and follow the instructions08:32
marcThanks08:33
roflpandado they show up in apps or do you have to command line to find it?08:33
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shriphaniroflpanda, sudo apt-get install wine08:33
roflpandais that the right one? i read somewhere that's an older version or something.08:33
shriphaniadd the repos to your sources.list08:34
Healotubuntu's wine is way old08:34
marcis there a gnome prog like kwifi scan?08:34
Healotold wine taste better and expensive: )08:34
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shriphaniHealot, budgetdedicated.com has the newer versions i think08:34
roflpandaSomething about wineHQ for newer version or something.08:34
THX-1138Is there any program like torsmo or conky?08:35
screechnigcatjust add the budgeticated repo to get the latest wine versions08:35
FujitsuTHX-1138, what do those programs do?08:35
roflpandai should try it, what harm can it do?08:35
roflpandahaha08:35
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marcharisund, is there a gnome program like kwifi?08:35
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rwscoldok well i am back anyone know anything about setting up tv tuners under ubuntu?08:35
screechnigcatmarc : network-manager is your best bet08:36
roflpandahow do you uninstall something like that without destroying your computer because of dependencies?08:36
shriphanihttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:36
THX-1138System monitors like gkrellem - + translucency. - alas conky and torsmo aren't in the ubuntu repo.08:36
marcscreechnigcat, ok08:36
shriphaniroflpanda, sudo aptitude remove {insert program here}08:36
shriphaniroflpanda, that link has the wine repos08:36
THX-1138Fujitus - here is the link http://conky.sourceforge.net/08:36
fooHow can I create a system user but chroot him in his home directory?08:37
FujitsuTHX-1138, I can see conky in the repos here...08:38
shriphaniroflpanda, did you get the repos ?08:38
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OmniDOkay my computer is unable to see the photos on my camera08:38
OmniDAny suggestions?08:39
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screechnigcatpower it on ?08:39
OmniDIt's on08:39
OmniDbeen on08:39
FujitsuOmniD, what do you mean it can't see the photos? Can it see the camera?08:40
shriphaniOmniD, you can use gthumb to import photos08:40
OmniDwhen you import08:40
THX-1138Fujitsu - it IS in universe.08:40
OmniDit says 'no images found'08:40
shriphanihmm i cant help then08:40
OmniDit very clearly has images on it though08:40
FujitsuTHX-1138, it is, yes.08:40
screechnigcatnever had i problem with my Digicam08:40
OmniDI wish it would just use the USB dealie08:40
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OmniDand I could browse it08:40
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screechnigcatOmniD : instead of pluging in your camera, y dont u take out the flash storage in your camera and try directly with that08:41
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OmniDI don't use external flash storage08:41
screechnigcatOmniD: of course for that, you'd need a suitable drive08:41
THX-1138Fujitsu - give torsmo a look also.08:41
FujitsuTHX-1138, it's not there, but I see conky is based on it.08:42
screechnigcatOmniD: i kno u dont. but your camera does. (if it has any shame)08:42
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shriphaniOmniD, you sure the media is in the camera ?08:42
shriphanilike the floppy or the sd card or whatever08:43
OmniDIt's internal flash memory08:43
boarder2006Does anyone have a good recommendation for a bt client for Ubuntu?08:43
roflpandaok08:43
screechnigcatOmniD: isnt that removable ?08:43
roflpandahow do i get wine tools?08:43
shriphaniboarder2006, bittorrent ?08:43
roflpandaapt-get install winetools?08:43
boarder2006yeah, sorry08:43
screechnigcatno08:43
roflpandai just dl'ed and installed wine08:43
screechnigcatroflpanda : wait a sec08:43
shriphaniby default it wont appear in the apps though08:44
Naked_SnakeWill Ubuntu support my SD/MMC/MS/MS-PRO/XC and CF/MICRODRIVE integrated drives?08:44
FujitsuNaked_Snake, in a laptop?08:44
Naked_SnakeNo, desktop08:44
roflpandai wish more things appeared in the apps.08:44
screechnigcatNaked_Snake: it supports mine08:44
Tomcat_Naked_Snake: Usually yes.08:44
Naked_SnakeI take tons of pics with my digicam08:44
roflpandait's hard trying to find everything.08:44
FujitsuNaked_Snake, maybe, no easy way to tell.08:44
shriphaniNaked_Snake, i had this mp3 player which could play sd cards etc. now i use that for reading such media08:44
Naked_SnakeTons08:44
Naked_Snakescreechnigcat : sweet08:44
Tomcat_Naked_Snake: Download the LiveCD and try out.08:44
shriphaniboarder2006, do you see bittorrent in the apps ?08:45
screechnigcatroflpanda: use this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=howto+install+wine08:45
boarder2006yeah, i was thinking something other than the default08:45
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shriphaniboarder2006, you can ?08:45
shriphanico08:45
shriphaniol08:45
screechnigcatboarder2006: TRY KTORRENT OR qtTORRENT08:45
Naked_SnakeTomcat_ : if I had Roadrunner still, maybe08:45
Naked_SnakeI have AOL08:45
boarder2006yeah, its there08:45
Fujitsuscreechnigcat, what about gnome-btdownload?08:46
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Naked_Snake6 month free trial08:46
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shriphaniazureus is good08:46
Fujitsushriphani, that's highly subjective.08:46
Tomcat_Naked_Snake: You can have the CD sent to you too... free of charge. But it'll take a couple of months unfortunately. ;)08:46
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screechnigcatFujitsu: I wouldnt kno abt it. i never used the default. always used uTorrent under wine08:46
THX-1138erm - How do you get aol on linux?08:47
Naked_SnakeTomcat_ : way ahead of ya ;)08:47
screechnigcatTomcat_: couple of months ? i got it in India in 3 weeks !08:47
Naked_SnakeCouple months?08:47
shriphaniTHX-1138, gaim ?08:47
boarder2006wine and opengl suck with my gfx card so i was looking for something like qttorrent08:47
THX-1138lol - i was kidding.08:47
shriphaniscreechnigcat, i am indian too !!!08:47
boarder2006thanks08:47
Tomcat_screechnigcat: Took about 2 months for me in Germany I think. :)08:47
Naked_Snakeshriphani : he means the dial-up service itself08:47
Naked_SnakeTomcat_ : oh, well, I live in the US08:47
screechnigcatshriphani: cool08:47
shriphanioh08:47
shriphaniit took a month for the cds to come here08:47
screechnigcatTomcat_: wierd. considering, that they ship from Holland08:47
Naked_SnakeWow08:48
shriphaniand by that time i had completely ruined my breezy install08:48
screechnigcatTomcat_: dosent holland have a common border with germany or something ?08:48
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Tomcat_screechnigcat: Yeah, I have no idea what takes so long... but I can download within minutes, so it's no problem.08:48
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shriphanisame here08:48
Tomcat_screechnigcat: True... we share a border in the northwest.08:48
shriphanii cracked a nearby wireless connection belongs to whom godknows08:49
Tomcat_;D08:49
shriphaniand i use it for all huge downloadd08:49
wwwdotcomIs there a way to check defects, if so, how do I do this?08:49
Tomcat_If it needs to be really fast I go to university... get around 5 to 7 MB/s there. ;)08:49
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Tomcat_wwwdotcom: The alternate installer has an option to check at the boot menu.08:49
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: damn u capitalists08:49
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screechnigcatwwwdotcom: sorry that was meant for tomcat08:50
THX-1138wwwdotcom CD defects?08:50
nextstate2I tried 'sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-org' but I got an error saying there were no source packages for xserver-org. Can I not recompile the xorg packages?08:50
Tomcat_wwwdotcom: The CDs also have an MD5SUMS file in the root dir... you can check with "md5sum -c MD5SUMS"08:50
wwwdotcomTHX, I don't know, but I thought I might check if possible08:50
THX-1138man md5sum has the needed info.08:50
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Fujitsunextstate, it's xorg, not xserver-xorg...08:50
Fujitsunextstate, and secondly, why do you want to rebuild it?08:50
boarder2006on the live cd there is an option to check for defects on bootup08:50
screechnigcatboarder2006: he isnt using a live cd08:51
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THX-1138true enough08:51
shriphaniwait the cd ou ordered has an option to check the integrity of the contents08:51
wwwdotcomTomcat, unable to open file?08:51
nextstate2Fujitsu: so I can recompile it for my machine with optimizations :)08:51
CSWookieSo, I'm having problems on my new Dapper install with problems that are linked against curses 5 with wide character support printing ungly junk to the screen.08:51
Fujitsunextstate, there's no point.08:52
Tomcat_wwwdotcom: I'm not exactly sure what the file is called and where exactly it is...08:52
Tomcat_wwwdotcom: Should be "MD5SUMS" or "MD5SUM" and be in the root of the CD...08:52
CSWookieCould someone help me fix this?08:52
CSWookieThanks in advance.08:52
nextstate2Fujitsu: why not. I saw a guy speed up X significantly by recompiling in gentoo08:52
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Fujitsunextstate2, that's Gentoo, and it wouldn't have been significant.08:53
wwwdotcomTomcat_, why such crazy install commands in the beginning?08:53
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THX-1138wwwdotcom - "Trial by Fire?" -  weak joke sorry.08:53
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nextstate2Fujitsu: ok, I won't bother with it then and save myself some time. Thanks!08:54
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: u should've gotten the live cd08:54
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THX-1138The live CD is wonderfully easy.08:54
Fujitsunextstate2, don't bother with recompiling stuff. The advantages that you'll gain are negligible.08:54
wwwdotcomscreeching, what is the live cd? and how do I get it?08:54
shriphaniwwwdotcom, you can order them08:54
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shriphanifor free !!08:55
THX-1138or download them08:55
THX-1138there is a live DVD also.08:55
wwwdotcomhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266998&highlight=powerpc08:55
weexfor some reason I'm getting a few seconds of delay loading any website with firefox in ubuntu...this just started a few days ago. Any ideas?08:55
wwwdotcomit says there we should use text based08:55
variantweex: your isp.. ?08:55
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weexthis doesn't happen from the other os08:56
weexor from other machines08:56
fooHow can I create a system user but chroot him in his home directory?08:56
variantweex: have you tried with a blank profile?08:56
wwwdotcom"I forgot to mention, you should download the "alternate CD" for text-based installation." What is "alternate CD"?08:56
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Fujitsuwwwdotcom, the text-based installer CD.08:56
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weexblank profile, what does that mean?08:56
FujitsuAs opposed to the Desktop CD, which is the graphical one.08:56
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variantfoo: this is a good starting point: http://www.tjw.org/chroot-login-HOWTO/08:57
wwwdotcomFujitsu, is "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" the text-based installer?  How do I find out?08:57
foovariant: sweet, thanks08:57
CSWookieHmm.  I wonder if the text-based one doesn't have the same problems with curses that the graphical one does.08:57
Fujitsuwwwdotcom, it's the Desktop CD, so it's graphical.08:57
wwwdotcomFujitsu, then, where do I get the text based installer?08:58
THX-1138Nah, I never cursed the graphical live CD.08:58
weexvariant: how do you mean blank profile? new user?08:58
Fujitsuwwwdotcom, why do you need it?08:58
wwwdotcomFujitsu, it is recommending we use that at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266998&highlight=powerpc08:58
variantweex: either start firefox with the -profile switch or as a different user or backup and delete your .mozilla directory08:58
Flannelwwwdotcom: grab the alternate ISO, instead of the desktop one08:59
Fujitsuwwwdotcom, if you think you need it, grab the alternate image from the place where you downloaded it.08:59
variantweex: if you go for the third option dont forget to back it up first08:59
THX-1138.initrc - typo whew that was a close one.08:59
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THX-1138brb08:59
foovariant: ahh, all that. eek08:59
FujitsuAh, I see why it says you should have one now, wwwdotcom :)08:59
FujitsuYes, you need the text-based one.08:59
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shriphanibtw why is there a goodbye lilo in the topic ?09:00
wwwdotcomFujitsu, sorry, I am completely lost.  I don't know where the alternate downloads are09:00
variantfoo: it's probably not worth it unless your needing an exceptionally secure environment and using other security systems too09:00
hantushriphani: oh its in our hearts09:00
hantu:P09:00
Admiral_Chicagoshriphani, lilo founded freenode and he died a few weeks age09:00
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shriphaniohh09:00
shriphanii was thinking of the bootloader09:01
variantshriphani: lol09:01
hantuoh whack.09:01
hantui read that as 'why isn't there a goodbye lilo'09:01
hantuheh09:01
DennyCranecan someone pm me the contents of a compiz-aiglx.desktop file please?09:01
foovariant: I want to give someone ssh access... but I just want to chroot him to his home directory09:01
wwwdotcomFujitsu, I think found it, you have to click through a few layers.  Does this look right? http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso09:01
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Fujitsuwwwdotcom, yes.09:01
shriphaniwwwdotcom, you on a mac ?09:02
screechnigcatwwwdotcom: u live in japan ?09:02
variantfoo: for what reason? you can use permissions to make it impossible for him to read files out of his home dir with a few exeptions09:02
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variantfoo: unless you trust him you should also set up user limmits (type ulimit as the user and it says "unlimited" means he can crash your system or worse)09:03
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foovariant: Right, but then I have to tighten down all the perms... hmm. It's not too big of a deal. I'm just making him an ssh account so he can ssh into other systems from my system with ssh keys09:04
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variantfoo: it's up to you09:04
screechnigcat!fonts09:04
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto09:04
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer09:04
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wwwdotcomsorry, guys, I am on windows now, but the mac is right next to me.  Yes, I am in Japan, but it's all English based here09:04
variantfoo: the chroot is not so hard to do09:04
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foovariant: ok, why does that page have a ton of instructions, then? Hm09:04
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variantfoo: it's only nine steps :)09:05
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foovariant: heh, too much for a simple chroot I think. /me shrugs09:05
mneptokevenin', users09:05
variantfoo: and all the commands are their, layed out of ryou :)09:05
Rizla420anyone having sound issues?  My songs sound like they're getting distorted09:05
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variantfoo: actualy, i wouldnt bother with the last step in those instructions09:06
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DJJUMHi, I'm running a dual bot system but I've lost the contents of my  /boot folder. What should I do?09:07
mneptok"lost?"09:07
variantDJJUM: how did you do that?09:07
variantDJJUM: you sure its not just unmounted?09:07
shriphanitrue DJJUM09:07
shriphanihow09:07
mneptokit's always in the last place you look.09:07
DJJUMi formatted another drive and made it accssible from/boot09:08
variantmneptok: my boots are anyway :)09:08
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variantDJJUM: what do you mean? yo mounted annother parition on /boot?09:08
mneptokDJJUM: you formatted, or created (or both) another partition?09:08
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DJJUMi'm guessing thats what it did09:08
screechnigcatvariant: you're stupid PJ made 5 people leave the channel09:08
roflpandaOk I'm installing wine09:08
roflpandaBUT09:08
variantscreechnigcat: what?09:08
screechnigcatroflpanda: did u use the guide ?09:09
roflpandaIt won't let me install IE09:09
rwscoldonc eagain i am back to see if someone else has come on that might know how to get an ati tv wonder elite tv tuner working under dapper09:09
roflpandaScreech it keeps telling me IE failed.09:09
screechnigcatroflpanda: follow the guide to the word and it will work prefectly09:09
variantDJJUM: i need to know what you did, the contents might be lost or you might just not be able to see them09:09
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ndlovuhi all. Are there any concerns I should bear in mind when running updates on an ubuntu server? Stuff that might break, work differently, etc.09:09
roflpandaNo really, I'm installing it this way.09:09
Fujitsundlovu, no.09:09
roflpandaAnd it's definitley not installing IE09:09
mneptokndlovu: not really.09:09
screechnigcatwhich way ?09:09
weexvariant: well the profile switch to a new one didn't seem to help, is there anyway to see how firefox is spending its time?09:10
screechnigcatare u using wine tools ?09:10
roflpandaYes09:10
variantndlovu: yeah, it's normally best to wait a day or two to make sure there are no big mess ups before applying the updates09:10
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shriphaniroflpanda, what did you type ?09:10
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roflpandaIt says something about a debugger and then tells me it failed.09:10
variantndlovu: maybe you saw the one about dissapearing X :)09:10
screechnigcatdid u do the base sytem setup first ?"09:10
roflpandaYes09:10
ndlovuso just a straight apt-get dist-upgrade on a semi-regular basis?09:10
mneptokndlovu: and as with any other Linux, keep the old kernel around for a week or so after a new one is released and installed.09:10
screechnigcatsetting up a fake drive ?09:10
ndlovuvariant: yep. saw that one!09:11
mneptokndlovu: sudo apt-get upgrade09:11
ndlovumneptok, thanks09:11
mneptokan X isssue should not affect a server, though. ;)09:11
DJJUMi formatted the usb drive... using the  format tool in Admin-> Disks09:11
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variantndlovu: apt-get upgrade is for updates.. dist-upgrade is a more major update and you shouldnt need to do it unless there is somthing in the new version you need09:11
Imrahilwhat is the deal with files: core, core.4138, core.6092, etc in my hard drives / directory?09:11
DJJUMand selected "/boot"  as the access folder09:11
FujitsuDJJUM, tha'09:11
Fujitsu*that's easy to fix.09:12
variantmneptok: who is to say that simmilar mistakes are not made in other software09:12
FujitsuDJJUM, just go back into Admin->Disks, and `Disable' the USB drive.09:12
roflpandastill says it failed.09:12
mneptokvariant: Simon Law. :P09:12
screechnigcatroflpanda: try try and try again until u suceed09:12
roflpandait's IE 6.0 1sp09:13
roflpandaIs that a problem?09:13
mneptokroflpanda: may i ask why you want IE under Linux?09:13
roflpandawine, mneptok09:13
screechnigcatroflpanda: yeah. only IE 5.5 runs09:13
mneptokroflpanda: WINE, Linux, whatever.09:13
screechnigcatIE 5.5 SP109:13
roflpandawhy is it asking me for 6.0? more importantly...09:13
roflpandahow do i get it to give me 5.5?09:13
Fujitsuroflpanda, why do you want IE?09:14
screechnigcatif u install it from winetools, u should be getting the correct version09:14
DJJUMok , i did that... /boot is still empty09:14
roflpandawell like i said it's 6.009:14
screechnigcatroflpanda: and the same package also icludes outlook express and windows media player 6.4 ?09:15
roflpandayah09:15
variantroflpanda: there is a program i used to install IE it worked perfectly: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page It works much better than sidenet or winetools09:15
roflpandai'm installing wine though09:15
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roflpandaso i can run windows stuff09:15
dhqhow do i run my c++ programs  and compile it09:15
variantroflpanda: so, apt-get install wine?09:15
Fujitsuroflpanda, Wine doesn't require IE.09:15
screechnigcatroflpanda: this is wierd09:16
variantdhq: man gcc09:16
roflpandaTo continue it does.09:16
variantroflpanda: never09:16
variantroflpanda: lol09:16
Fujitsuroflpanda, no it doesn't.09:16
DJJUMmaybe my fstab is messed up? Where is the fstab file again?09:16
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shriphaniit doesnt roflpanda09:16
variantDJJUM: /etc/fstab09:16
shriphaniDJJUM, /etc/fstab09:16
DJJUMthanks :-)09:16
screechnigcatDJJUM: sudo gedit /etc/fstab09:16
shriphanii like vi09:16
variantDJJUM: i think you probably mounted somthing over /boot.. in which case all your files are still there09:16
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screechnigcatshriphani: whats vi ?09:17
shriphania text editor ?09:17
shriphanicut the09:17
shriphani?09:17
none_np DJAdmin09:17
none_lol09:17
DJAdmiralnone_: THANK YOU SO MUCH09:18
DJAdmiralI am SAVED09:18
DJJUMhmmm... no references to  /boot in there09:18
none_great09:18
FujitsuDJJUM, there shouldn't be...09:18
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gypsymaurohello09:18
FujitsuDJJUM, please run `mount'09:18
shriphaninone_, tell me a distro that gives me just bash without x09:18
variantDJJUM: type mount on its own as root09:18
Imrahilwhat is the deal with files: core, core.4138, core.6092, etc in my hard drives / directory? they are huge!09:18
screechnigcati want to compile a list of best programs for Ubuntu ?09:18
Fujitsuvariant, why as root?09:18
variantDJJUM: and tell me what is mounted to /boot09:18
screechnigcatso whats the best MEdia player ?09:18
variantFujitsu: good point09:18
DJAdmiralshriphani: There are plenty of distros that have just bash09:18
DJJUM/dev/sd109:18
gypsymaurotomorrow I got a strange behaviour of my mouse, It points and clicks 2-3 cms at left of the real pointer..09:18
variantDJJUM: type mount on its own as user09:18
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shriphanii cant find any ?09:19
gypsymauroI tried to change the mouse too.. but same problem09:19
gypsymauroany hint?09:19
mneptokshriphani: Ubuntu gives you CLI only if you want09:19
DJAdmiralshriphani: in fact you can also install ubuntu as a server which is bash only, no X09:19
variantDJJUM: so, type umount /boot09:19
Fujitsuscreechnigcat, that's subjective.09:19
variantDJJUM: as root :)09:19
shriphaniumm i dun want the server09:19
mneptokshriphani: use the alternate cd09:19
screechnigcatFujitsu: vote on it09:19
DJAdmiralshriphani: And you can also boot regular ubuntu without X09:19
Fujitsuscreechnigcat, or not. This channel is cluttered enough.09:19
variantthe ubuntu command line is not very friendly, unlike gentoo :)09:20
DJJUMThanks guys :-)09:20
DJJUMThat worked09:20
DJAdmiralmneptok! Hey!09:20
mneptokshriphani: you can install CLI only, "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" from an existing install, or boot to runlevel 3 only.09:20
shriphanihmmm anything else09:20
screechnigcatFujitsu: alright. just an idea09:20
variantDJJUM: thought so :P09:20
mneptokDJAdmiral: heya09:20
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shriphaniok mneptok thx09:20
variantDJJUM: in future, mount usb or other removable devices under /media/sda etc etc09:20
DJAdmiralmneptok: Thanks to none_ here my computer got saved! So how are ya?09:20
screechnigcatok gotta reboot. changed my edgy kernel from linux-image 386 to 68609:20
shriphanii got a dead hd to pluck out files from on a box09:20
mneptokDJAdmiral: i'm glad it's friday09:21
shriphaniso i needed a live cd with just command line09:21
DJAdmiralTGI Friday's? ;)09:21
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variantshriphani: the gentoo minimal cd is good for that09:21
DJAdmiralshriphani: Try the LFS livecd.09:21
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DJAdmiralshriphani: Works great for me.09:21
shriphanicuz i got about a few gigs to cope09:21
shriphanicopy09:21
shriphaniwithout swap it would suck09:22
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shriphaniso i need something low on resources09:22
DJAdmiralshriphani: If it's a livecd you want then go for the LFS LiveCD09:22
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shriphaniok09:22
mneptokshriphani: or DSL09:22
roflpandaI still can't find anything on this09:22
variantshriphani: gentoo minimal :)09:22
shriphaniok09:22
shriphanithanks a lot09:22
DJAdmiralPlenty of choices dude09:22
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mneptokwhen did Gentoo move from being a punishment to a choice?09:23
mneptok>:)09:23
abortdwhere can i get a program to set mmy fonts for GTK programs?09:23
ianm_some people choose punishment09:23
DJAdmiralhey mneptok: what's the name of the package that adds a menu called Debian to the Applications menu?09:23
ianm_abortd: preferences / fonts ?09:24
abortd?09:24
DJAdmiralI can't recall. oh and LFS > Gentoo09:24
mneptokDJAdmiral: there isn't one. just enable that menu with A La Carte.09:24
shriphaniDJAdmiral, hmm09:24
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shriphanialacarte menu editor09:24
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abortdsorry wrong chan09:24
abortdi should be in kubuntu09:24
DJAdmiralmneptok: There is one actually: Don't remember what program that was though.09:24
shriphaniapplication ---------> accessories --------------> a la carte menu editor09:25
mneptokDJAdmiral: the menu is there now, it's just hidden.09:25
HeavyThinkerhmm just wondering, does the ubuntu 6.06 386 kernel have smp?09:25
DJAdmiralabortd: No problemo. many kubuntu issues are also solved here sometimes.09:25
DJAdmiralmneptok: Ahh09:25
mneptokDJAdmiral: the app you're talking about probably just unhides that menu when it installs itself.09:25
cpk2abortd: kubuntu is basically ubuntu =)09:25
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hockyhair!pdf09:25
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)09:25
abortdwell i was hoping i could resolve it here because i think its a gnome thing09:25
abortdwell09:25
abortdanyways let me take a screen and put it on image shack09:25
DJAdmiralGo ahead abortd09:26
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Fujitsuabortd, it's a GTK thing, not a GNOME thing, and I believe it's controlled by KDE when you are using KDE.09:26
DJAdmiral835 people are here to help! =D09:26
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roflpandaOk i'm going to reinstall everything.09:26
Crazedomfg /09:26
ianm_I'm here to make trouble09:26
roflpandaAnd follow the guide from scratch.09:26
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shriphanihmm i can use puppy , dsl or gentoo09:26
shriphanior lfs09:27
Crazedall my shift / ctrl keys don't work09:27
mneptokCrazed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:27
ianm_anyone using the SLED menu in ubuntu?  so far I prefer it09:27
Crazedpfff mneptok09:27
DJAdmiralmneptok: alacarte is open but i dont see how to make debian visible :S09:28
mneptokCrazed: you might want to patch that air leak, too. before you deflate completely.09:28
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Crazedsux09:28
TheLancehey guys i have a major isssue here trying to update to Edgy eft09:28
TheLancecan someone please help me?09:28
Crazedcan't even use console to backup my xconfg ..09:28
FujitsuTheLance, #ubuntu+109:28
Crazedcause it has capital ..09:28
Crazedand can't make caps09:29
TheLanceis that the ubuntu help channel?09:29
abortdhttp://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ur0.png09:29
abortdthere is my problem09:29
abortdlook at adept in that picture09:29
cpk2TheLance: thats for edgy problems09:29
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Crazed... mneptok that reconfigure only configures my x server09:30
KAINOSnewbie help on wifi09:30
Crazednot gnome ..09:30
Crazedit's not working in gnome09:30
Crazedcan't use shift09:30
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Crazedjust like that key doesnt exists09:30
mneptokCrazed: the X server controls the keyboard, my man.09:30
Crazedalso can't make any of the char above the numerical09:30
Crazedi understand that09:30
Crazedbut it's not cause of x09:30
mneptokCrazed: part of any X server config is identifying the correct keymappings09:30
Crazedit's cause of gnome settings09:31
Crazedarg09:31
Crazedidiot09:31
KAINOSnewbie help on wifi card (dAPPER dRAKE , RTLink WIFI Chipset, 64 HaRDWARE)09:31
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Crazednm09:31
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Crazedi didnt change anything on x server nor x config09:31
roflpandaI figured it out09:31
Crazedso why should that be mesed up09:31
abortdDJAdmiral: did u see the screen shot?09:31
Crazedanyway gtg09:31
Crazedwork09:31
Crazedbye09:31
roflpandaI had a newer version of wine that IE breaks on.09:31
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roflpandaSo I'll try this again.09:31
roflpanda=D09:31
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mneptoki love when random people call me an "idiot" for trying to help them.09:32
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KAINOS newbie help on wifi card (dAPPER dRAKE , RTLink WIFI Chipset, 64 HaRDWARE)09:33
mneptokKAINOS: is there a question there?09:33
richiefrich!wifi09:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:33
richiefrichKAINOS ^^09:33
richiefrichKAINOS --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:33
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KAINOSthanks09:33
richiefrichso right09:33
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abortdso no one can help me?09:35
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variantabortd: just taking a look, hold a sek09:36
abortdthanks variant09:36
richiefrichwhats wrong with the adept ?09:36
richiefrichabortd ^^ ?09:36
abortdthe text is huge09:36
abortdi can set the text to everything to be tiny09:36
abortdand still09:36
richiefrichthen resize it09:37
abortdit wont budge09:37
abortd.....09:37
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abortdif life was that simple09:37
variantabortd: sorry, i dont use kde09:37
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highvoltagehi, where can I download the edgy beta?09:39
highvoltageI can only find the DVD image on cdimage.ubuntu.com :/09:39
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mneptokhighvoltage: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/edgy/09:40
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mneptok(same dir structure for any other mirror)09:40
highvoltagethanks09:40
THX-1138I need an app to start before gnome-panel. - Where do i put the start script?      (sessions doesn't do it.)09:41
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noneeehello! I'm looking for a boot floppy to install ubuntu on a laptop wich has an external usb cdrom drive and the usb ports are on a pcmcia card..09:45
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THX-1138Is casper the program that boots the cd iso? - might it work for a floppy also?09:47
noneeeTHX-1138, sorry.. I didn't understand.. :-/09:49
noneeeah09:50
noneeeok09:50
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DJAdmiralback09:51
DJAdmiralmneptok, abortd: you guys still there?09:51
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abortdyea09:51
omenfiendI have Ubuntu 5.10 installed as a sever mode is it possible for me to upgrade to dapper or do i need to install ubuntu-desktop first ?09:51
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abortdhttp://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ur0.png09:51
abortdlook09:51
abortdbrb gotta pee09:51
KenSentMe!upgrade > omenfiend09:52
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jcapotehey guys, i have an ubuntu 6.06 install disk, i was wondering how i can boot into server mode, as to install to a server09:52
DJAdmiralabortd: I just saw your screenie.09:52
KenSentMejcapote: download and use the server install cd09:52
DJAdmiraljcapote: Is it a live cd or an alternate cd?09:52
jcapotelivecd09:52
DJAdmiralouch.09:53
jcapoteid rather save myself the download if possible09:53
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abortdDJAdmiral: help!09:53
DJAdmiralGet the alternate cd then09:53
DJAdmiralthere's a server option there09:53
DJAdmiralsorry abortd: what exactly is the problem here?09:53
DJAdmiraloversized fonts?09:53
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abortdthe text in adept manager is HUGE09:53
jcapoteyea it looks like i have to download a cd anyway09:53
jcapotei just have this old box that i want to put xubuntu on09:54
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jcapoteand i figured i could just piggy back off of the ubuntu cd i already had09:54
DJAdmiralabortd: hmm - any other programs that have oversized fonts?09:54
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abortdDJAdmiral: nope09:55
jcapoteDJAdmiral: Thanks anyways09:55
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DJAdmiralabortd: odd.09:55
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DJAdmiralabortd: try reinstalling adept?09:55
DJAdmiral!adept09:56
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:56
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abortdhow do i reinstall?09:56
buffaramadoes anyone have a fix for dapper installation hanging at step 3?09:56
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DJAdmiralabortd: maybe a 'sudo apt-get install adept' should do the trick.09:56
abortdcan i remove adept and use synaptic?09:56
DJAdmirali think09:56
DJAdmiralabortd: by all means - yes! If synaptic runs in kubuntu.09:57
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DJAdmiralbuffarama: what exactly is step 3?09:57
buffaramakeyboard layout choice,I pick, and hit forward, but it just sits there.09:58
DJAdmiralbuffarama: odd. it never hangs on any other machine i know of.09:58
DJAdmiralbuffarama: Did you try the "choose keyboard layout by pressing some keys" option?09:58
mneptokabortd: look at KDE's font configs09:58
abortdi did mneptok09:59
DJAdmiralmneptok: hey - How do I make debian menu visible in Alacarte then?09:59
mneptokbuffarama: did you md5sum the .iso and burn at 4x or 8x speed?09:59
mneptokDJAdmiral: add something to that menu subset09:59
abortdunless there is one i do not know about09:59
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abortd!synaptic09:59
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:59
DJAdmiralmneptok: erm - okay10:00
buffaramadon't have that option. did the test keyboard layout bit, that works, but after hitting forward, i'm still stuck10:00
KenSentMeI have a problem installing totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin. I get this error in synaptic: totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Needed:totem-gstreamer (=1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 will be installed. Anyone know how to solve this?10:00
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abortdi dont think i can  download synaptic10:01
mneptokKenSentMe: what version of Ubuntu?10:01
KenSentMemneptok: ubuntu dapper10:01
DJAdmiralbuffarama: okay - that's just freaky10:01
KenSentMemneptok: i used xine, but online videos looked terrible10:01
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saquib>> HELP: I'm having some trouble with mu repo list. Can anyone point me to a repo list where ALL the repositories are Working. Im using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.10:02
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KenSentMe!source-o-matic10:02
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:02
KenSentMesaquib: ^^^10:02
we2bywhat port is windows printer sharing using?10:02
saquibThanks...10:02
mneptokKenSentMe: are you using Synaptic or apt-get?10:02
KenSentMemneptok: synaptic now10:02
DJAdmiralmneptok: okay - that's odd, i added an entry but the full menu isn't coming.10:03
KenSentMemneptok: but i can try apt-get10:03
mneptokKenSentMe: looks to solve correctly here. do you have external repos enabled?10:03
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DJAdmiralmneptok: doesn't the Debian menu show all the applications that are installed?10:03
KenSentMemneptok: backports10:04
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mneptokDJAdmiral: no.10:05
KenSentMemneptok: not even backports. so no external10:05
mneptokKenSentMe: see what apt-get tells you.10:05
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KenSentMemneptok: how can i get apt-get to give errors in english?10:05
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abortdhey DJAdmiral i found another program that does it10:05
mneptokKenSentMe: instead of ... ?10:05
KenSentMemneptok: dutch10:05
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mneptokKenSentMe: is Dutch your native language?10:06
KenSentMemneptok: yes10:06
mneptokKenSentMe: tehn keep Dutch :)10:06
mneptok*then10:06
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foureight84hello, is anyone here using conky and compiz at the same time?10:06
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KenSentMemneptok: i mean, i heard of a way to run an apt-get command in english so i can post the result in this channel, just for once i mean10:07
saquib>> Ques: Is it okay if i simply IGNORE the GPG key error messages?10:07
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foureight84i am wondering if tehre's a way to exclude conky from showing up when viewport is activated10:07
kothz!fglrx10:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:07
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KenSentMemneptok: but the error in apt-get is the same as in synaptic10:08
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mneptokKenSentMe: the $CURRENT totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin i have for Dapper is 1.4.3-0ubuntu110:09
DJAdmiralokay - There's this program I know of that shows all installed applications categorised - all inside the debian menu - ANY idea what that package is, anybody?10:09
KenSentMemneptok: hmm, that's strange then, mine is 1.4.110:10
mneptokKenSentMe: it looks like apt is trying to install some newer version from some other repo.10:10
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foureight84anyone?10:10
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foureight84i am wondering if there's a way to exclude conky from showing up when viewport is activated10:12
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foureight84thanks anyway guys10:13
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arashhJoin This Group For Free And Recieve a Monthly salary... http://greenhorse.com/join_now.ghc?r=15056731510:14
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arashhJoin This Group For Free And Recieve a Monthly salary... http://greenhorse.com/join_now.ghc?r=15056731510:14
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DJAdmiralarashh - DO NOT SPAM10:15
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arashhJoin This Group For Free And Recieve a Monthly salary... http://greenhorse.com/join_now.ghc?r=15056731510:15
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THX-1138!spam10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
saquib >> Ques: Is it okay if i simply IGNORE the GPG key error messages?10:17
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saquib >> Is it okay if i simply IGNORE the GPG key error messages?10:18
DJAdmiralsomebody please kick out arashh10:18
DJAdmiralgoddamn spammers10:18
THX-1138Spam is a rash - cute10:18
arashhJoin This Group For Free And Recieve a Monthly salary... http://greenhorse.com/join_now.ghc?r=15056731510:18
DJAdmiralsomebody10:18
DJAdmiralplease10:18
KenSentMe!ops10:18
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!10:18
DJAdmiralkick him before i do10:18
THX-1138Thanks Ken10:19
DJAdmiralno ops here?10:19
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DJAdmiralFinally10:19
KenSentMeSeveas: thanks10:19
THX-1138In a second or two. - well run channel normally10:19
DJAdmiralThanks Seveas.10:19
THX-1138Hi Seveas.10:19
THX-1138Seveas - Can you help me with little problem i've been having?   Discovered World ofWarcraft runs in linux and now i can't...10:20
THX-1138pull myself away from the computer.10:21
SeveasI can ban you from here is that helps 10:21
KenSentMemneptok: you say you have version 1.4.3 of the firefox-plugin. But when i search on packages.ubuntu.com i only see 1.4.110:21
Seveass/is/if/10:21
DJAdmiralrofl10:21
THX-1138Lol10:21
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DJAdmiral10:22
DJAdmiralnice emote: how do you type this one out? --> 10:22
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kupsit_phquestion ---10:23
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kupsit_phi need to get the brand and speed of my memory (RAM)10:24
kupsit_phany command on linux?10:24
schizoschafis teh live and the install iso now one and the same?10:24
KenSentMeschizoschaf: yes10:24
schizoschafcool. did not notice that10:24
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variantKenSentMe: cat /proc/meminfo10:25
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THX-1138DJSdmiral - it's japanese. - now after adding the character slector to the panel i don't see the choice fpr Japanese.10:25
variantKenSentMe: sorry, that wont help you10:25
DJAdmiralTHX-1138: And it's DJAdmiral lol10:26
KenSentMemneptok: found it, was wrong repos indeed10:26
mneptokKenSentMe: cool. glad you got it sorted.10:26
THX-1138Heh - I stand corrected.10:26
mneptokTHX-1138: tab complete is your friend :)10:26
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DJAdmiralHow does one end up installing flash?10:26
THX-1138meptok - How so??10:26
mneptoksudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree10:27
variantDJAdmiral: you might want to try gnash instead10:27
DJAdmiralI hate this godforsaken flashplugin-nonfree which is actually flashplayer-notworking.10:27
mneptokTHX-1138: type "DJ" and then hity <tab> ;)10:27
mneptokif you don't like the functionality of the Macrodobe plugin, Gnash is not going to impress you.10:27
mabreauxI have a problem with install a program to the menu.  it says it is an unsupported application. but it runs fine.  how do I add it to the menu?10:28
mneptokmabreaux: A La Carte10:28
THX-1138Ah - I got it. - nice tip. - The comma nick comepletion was removed from xchat options. - glad to have nick comepletion back.10:28
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mabreauxA la carte?10:28
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THX-1138meptok - What can i add to restore the wavy underline for spell checking?10:28
mneptokmabreaux: Applications -> Accessories -> A La Carte Menu Editor10:28
DJAdmiralApplications > Accessories > A la carte menu editor10:28
DJAdmiralSHOOT10:29
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DJAdmiral1 second lol10:29
mneptokTHX-1138: you prolly need aspell or something10:29
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THX-1138aspell is installed. - must be some py script or something.10:29
g-nomehello, how can i change my IP address to whatever i want, like here in windows: http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/network/3.shtml10:30
mneptokthere might be additional aspell app bindings needed for XChat10:30
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mneptokg-nome: you can't change the IP address to "whatever you want" and expect it to work.10:30
saquib** HELP: im getting this error always: 404 file not found ... i cant update my linux kernels.. updates are listed, but cant download!!10:30
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Seveassaquib, try apt-get update10:31
mneptokg-nome: IP addresses must be unique on the subnet, proper to the subnet and netmask.10:31
g-nomemneptok: but i mean like the guide for windows here : http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/network/3.shtml (i just want to connect my ubuntu machine to my windows machine, no internet needed!)10:31
mneptoksaquib: sudo apt-get update10:31
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variantg-nome: ifconfig eth0 IPADRESS up10:31
mneptokg-nome: System -> Administration -> Networking10:32
g-nomeand how would i set it back to automatic (ISP)?10:32
saquiberr.... would that help over Synaptic? i mean its the same thing right?10:32
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THX-1138hm - I think you can change your machine name. but that only gets you. your_ubuntu_machine .some.isp.com10:32
g-nomep3ac310:32
mneptoksaquib: apt-get update != apt-get upgrade10:32
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cpk2g-nome: you have a crossover cable?10:32
saquibok....10:32
mneptoksaquib: update the repo information. then try the download again.10:32
g-nomemneptok: should i change it to static ip?10:32
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g-nomecpk2: yes i think10:33
deedubbHello. Whats the correct way to remove mdadm from the standard startup? whats the ubuntu command for rc-update etc?10:33
g-nomenic-to-nic10:33
cpk2g-nome: with a crossover cable it is super easy10:33
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g-nomecpk2: please tell me how, please10:33
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deedubbmost new NICs will cross it over10:33
Cheep-cheep:)10:34
THX-1138deedubb: Good question. I was wrestling with starting xcompmgr in a script before gnome-panel.10:34
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cpk2g-nome: just sudo ifup eth0 192.168.1.1 and then on windows assign it 192.168.1.210:34
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mneptokdeedubb: invoke-rc.d10:34
rofl-faceHey guys.10:34
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cpk2g-nome: might need to tell windows the gateway is 192.168.1.110:34
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rofl-faceI'm currently connected to mIRC via Wine. hehe.10:34
dendayyoo10:34
cpk2g-nome: you can use any ip really as long as it is the proper format10:34
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g-nomecpk2: and then how to connect?10:34
rofl-faceI can't get winamp to work though. :(10:34
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cpk2g-nome: thats, it they are connected, you want to transfer files? there are several different methods for that10:35
variantrofl-face: there goes all respect you had before you spoke10:35
cpk2winscp is one way10:35
deedubbmneptok, I think that doesn't do what I want; I don't want mdadm to start when my computer starts (removing the symlink from /etc/init.d)10:35
cpk2you could set up a samba share10:35
dendayI use xchat10:35
deedubboops, I mean remove it from the runlevel10:35
g-nomecpk2: let's say both are pingable, what next to connect FROM my ubuntu machine TO my windows machine (only like that)?10:35
cpk2g-nome: eh?10:36
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mneptokdeedubb: then try update-rc.d10:36
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cpk2g-nome: once they are pingable they should be "connected"10:36
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deedubbah huh, thank you10:36
g-nomecpk2: how can i simply access my windows chare10:36
variantg-nome: what do you mean?? transfer files?10:36
rofl-facehmm wonder why it isn't working.10:36
variantg-nome: install samba10:36
g-nomejust access and SEE the share10:36
cpk2g-nome: samba i suppose would be easy10:37
rofl-facethat sucks man.10:37
g-nomevariant: yes, but only those from the win machine10:37
cpk2g-nome: no, samba goes both ways10:37
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g-nomeisn't samba already pre-installed on ubuntu?10:37
THX-1138mneptok: Can i run xcompmgr.sh from rc.6?  The in script command xcompmgr &      ?10:37
variantrofl-face: why dont you use the linux version of winamp10:37
rofl-facevariant is more like a uh....test, yes that's right. test.10:37
rofl-facexmms?10:37
deedubbupdate-rc.d -f mdadm remove is exactly what I wanted, good manpage10:37
variantrofl-face: no, the linux version of winamp10:38
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rofl-faceI have xmms, I'm mostly just checking it out.10:38
rofl-faceTHere's a linux version?10:38
g-nomeanyway i just want know HOW to connect to my windows machine (where should i type its ip-address in ubuntu)?10:38
variantrofl-face: yeah there was at least10:38
rofl-faceI looked on the website the other day, I wasn't aware.10:38
mneptokg-nome: Places -> Connect to server10:38
rofl-facebrb10:38
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THX-1138Ok. the man page is sufficient. I have the right place to add it.10:38
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cpk2g-nome: i think you think this is more complicated than it really is10:38
THX-1138 .Xinit  didn't do it.10:39
variantrofl-face: http://librenix.com/?inode=137710:39
g-nomemneptok: and then, "windows share"?10:39
mneptokg-nome: and then the SMB URL10:39
variantg-nome: you are sharing the drive under windows right?10:39
g-nomevariant: yes10:39
mneptoksmb://10.0.0.1/sharename10:39
mneptok(or whatever)10:40
deedubbhow do you see what runlevel you're in again? uname?10:40
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cpk2i do believe it would be smb://computername/10:40
g-nomemneptok: should i set "windows share" in  Places -> Connect to server or something else?10:40
deedubbwindows share sounds logical10:40
mneptokit may need to be smb://windows\ share10:41
g-nomecpk2: would "smb://IPADRESS" work too?10:41
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varianti think gnome has some services descovery thing too..10:41
mneptokor smb://windows%20share10:41
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rofl-facebut where's the place to dl it?10:41
hockyhairhow do i patch and recompile a .patch file for openbox10:42
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cpk2g-nome: just going off what it looks like the gui says, i access my shares through my sambashares accounts home dir10:42
hockyhairpatch and recompile a program with a .patch file..10:42
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rofl-facedead link.10:42
mneptokrofl-face: why not jut use Rhythmbox or Banshee?10:42
saquib**STILL GETTING THE SAME ERROR!! W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.46_i386.deb  "404 Not Found"10:42
variantrofl-face: use google, i am not your mum10:42
deedubbwhy does my default LAMP ubuntu server install have rsync?10:42
rofl-facehahaha10:42
g-nomecpk2: how can i set my ip adress back to auto-assign by provider?10:42
mneptokrofl-face: you decide to try out Linux, and then the first thing you do is try to turn it into Windows. stop that. ;)10:43
rofl-facei'm not worried about it.10:43
subpar_rofl-face, if you're on kubuntu, you can use amarok, or install the kde libs and put it on gnome10:43
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pkingright heres a biggy, i can ssh as root, but a user cant use sudo in ssh but they can use su. what could be the problem10:43
hockyhairanyone know how to patch and recomile a program with a .patch file..10:43
rofl-facewhat exactly is the gnome anyways?10:43
subpar_gnome is what handles the desktop10:43
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rofl-facethat's what i read.10:43
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rofl-facebut it seems everyone is like hurrah! with it.10:43
cpk2g-nome: just bring eth0 down and up again10:44
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g-nomecpk2: thanks10:44
subpar_well it's very customizeable10:44
mneptokpking: is the other user in the group "admin"?10:44
g-nomeso with "smb://computername/F:\Folder" should work to access my windows share?10:44
rofl-facewell i just got ubuntu and have never used linux before. i'm taking it baby steps.10:44
rofl-face:)10:44
pkingthey are in group "adm" is this the same10:44
mneptokpking: no10:45
saquib **STILL GETTING THE SAME ERROR!! W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.46_i386.deb  "404 Not Found"10:45
pkingok i will change them10:45
hockyhair!patch10:45
ubotupatch: Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-2 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 188 kB10:45
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hockyhairarg, i need some help patching a program10:45
DJAdmiralrofl - i just made this in ubuntu - cyclops potato that seriously needs a makeover: http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2152/cyclopspotatohj7.png10:45
cpk2g-nome: no f10:46
g-nomecpk2: should enter a "subnet mask" and a gateway-address?10:46
mneptokhockyhair: there are thousands of places to find instructions on using diff with a .patch file10:46
cpk2g-nome: windows might want a gateway10:46
hockyhairmneptok: ok, can you tell me of one ;)10:47
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g-nomecpk2: what's that exactly?10:47
THX-1138mneptok - Very nice that you are here.10:47
hockyhairor just tell me the cmd so i can get on my way10:47
cpk2g-nome: smb://computername/ should be all you need to get to the share10:47
cpk2g-nome: the gateway will be the linux box's ip10:47
owhGreetings. I have a system with three sata drives. Disk 1 and 2 were setup as a mirror raid with XFS partitions. One drive failed, Ubuntu f*cked itself. I won't go into that ATM. I managed to mount bits and copy data from the two drives onto drive 3, same partitions, but ext3. I now have the machine up. How do I check the integrity of the installed packages?10:47
mneptokhockyhair: http://www.squirrel.nl/people/jvromans/tpj0403-0016a.html (third result on Google for "diff patch")10:48
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kothzsigh - I've been working with linux forever, and I still can't get over the initial gut wrench of a new linux install when I realise that finishing the install is only half of the install.  :)10:48
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owhkothz: Aint that the truth :-(10:48
mneptokkothz: like it's any different on any other OS? ;)10:48
g-nomecpk2: so first "ifconfig eth0 IPADRESS up" on ubuntu, then similar for windows. After that i can acces the win-machine trough ubuntu with Places->Connect to server, and there enter smb://computername/, then ok?10:48
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g-nomecpk2: thanks10:49
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hockyhair um im still confused with the patch options, i put my *.patch file in the source dir but i dont know what options to use with patch10:49
owhAnyone know how to check the integrity of my installed packages?10:49
froudlooking for a copy of the preseed file used to install Ubuntu LAMP. I don't have copy the Server CD, just the Alternate CD. Anyone know where I can get one quickly off the network10:49
THX-1138Anyone - "Tripwire" on a fresh install.10:50
cpk2g-nome: hopefully, i am using kde and am able to open konquerer (nautilaus) and navigate to smb://computername10:50
cpk2g-nome: dont need to do any connect to server stuff10:50
Gaspodeowh - why didn'y you just replace the faulty disk in the RAID?10:50
cpk2but i have also set up my samba shares correctly10:50
g-nomecpk2: anyway it savs ifup: already configured- i guess i'll make it trough GUI10:50
hockyhairgot it10:50
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cpk2g-nome: just bring it down10:51
cpk2g-nome: sudo ifdown10:51
mneptokfroud: LAMP is not included in server. there are no preseeds.10:51
cpk2err ifdown eth010:51
g-nomecpk2: sudo ifdown eth0 192.168.1.110:51
g-nome?10:51
mneptokfroud: -server does not install any daemonized server processes by default10:51
cpk2g-nome: to bring it down you dont need the ip10:51
owhGaspode: Because the system shit itself and was no longer bootable - you can imagine how happy I was :-(10:51
cpk2just the device10:51
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mneptokooo! Ben fixed my kernel issue!10:52
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THX-1138Yay, mneptok10:53
froudmneptok: What of the insaller menu Item Install a LAMP Server10:53
mneptoki can use a 686 kernel again. huzzah!10:53
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Flannelfroud: you can just install lamp itself,10:53
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g-nomehow can i know my IP address trough terminal?10:53
Gaspodeowh: to be sure - i'd save any data you have and can't loose (docs, pics etc.) and do a rebuild... strange that the mirrir didn't work properly though10:53
mneptokfroud: i think that refers to repo-only pre-seeds. so nothing you can download.10:53
Flannelfroud: at the alternate boot menu, type 'server', it'll install a headless box10:53
ubuntu_g-nome,  hi10:53
Flannel!tell froud about lamp10:53
ubuntu_use ipconfig10:53
kothzg-nome: ifconfig ethX10:53
Flannelfroud: then use those instructions to download/install LAMP10:53
ubuntu_ifconfig10:54
ubuntu_lol10:54
ubuntu_sorry10:54
g-nomeok10:54
owhGaspode: Hmm, yeah a re-install is a week's work - not the install, but the config as kothz pointed out :-)10:54
ubuntu_flannel have u tried bsd?10:54
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kothzhehehe -- it's the nitty bits (flash, mp3, etc...) :)10:54
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Gaspodeowh: true, but the best way to be sure imho :-)10:55
sichello10:55
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owhHmm10:55
owhTah10:55
sicis it possible to automount lvm devices?10:55
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THX-1138<< Runs his server from a CD image.   (trust issues. -lol)10:55
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froudFlannel: I know how to install Headless, want I want to do is automate LAMP installation as per the Server CD Installer10:55
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Flannelfroud: then you'll need the server CD, or you can customize the alternate ISO,10:55
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PMTI installed Ubuntu as a dual-boot with XP with XP having been installed first, but every time after I boot into XP, on reboot, grub fails to load and the machines reboots. Reinstalling grub works - until the next Windows boot. Anyone ever seen this before?10:56
THX-1138Hi Flannel.10:56
PMTsic, yes?10:56
froudFlannel: you mean it is not possible to install and configure LAMP from a Preseed + kickstart methods10:56
mneptokPMT: sounds like XP is overwriting the MBR. or some virus app is.10:56
PMTmneptok, that's what I thought, but it's not overwriting it WITH anything usable.10:56
PMTAlso, grub does briefly print out "grub loading stage 1.5..." before reboot.10:57
sicPMT: and how? ;)10:57
mneptokPMT: that's Windows for you.10:57
PMTsic, no idea, but I know another distro does it by default. :)10:57
sicPMT: lol ;)10:57
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Flannelfroud: it is possible via kickstart, although... that's an awful lot of work you'd need to go through that's already done10:57
sicPMT: that's my problem - manually it works, but i want to plug in my usb hdd an it should work ;)10:57
Flannel!tell sic about lvm10:58
PMTsic, ah, heh. I guess there's probably something you could do, but I've had bad luck on getting anything to automount, so...10:58
Flannelsic: check that page, it might have a solution10:58
froudFlannel: thx10:58
PMTmneptok, I can't figure out what might be overwriting it. I've dual-booted other things without ever seeing this problem before.10:58
sicthx flannel10:58
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mneptokPMT: check /boot/grub/menu/lst and see where it think its bootloader is10:59
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PMTmneptok, that never changes.10:59
PMTThat's the thing.10:59
PMTIf I e.g. boot to a grub prompt from LiveCD or something and tell it to read /boot/grub/menu.lst or check device.map after the fact, nothing changed.11:00
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mneptokPMT: are XP and Ubuntu on the same drive?11:00
PMTmneptok, yes, and this is a laptop, can't change  that.11:00
mneptokoh, ok. so it's not GRUB installing it's MBR to a slave device.11:01
mneptok*its11:01
PMTNo, the thing is that grub installs sanely.11:01
PMTAnd works.11:01
PMT...until I boot into XP.11:01
PMTThen XP boots fine.11:01
PMTThen on reboot...11:01
mneptokwell, that's easy then11:01
mneptokdon't use XP. :P11:01
PMTSadly, the user I'm aiding in this has requirements that Wine cannot meet and that will not be ported.11:01
cpk2i'm getting rid of xp on my desktop as we speak11:01
mneptokPMT: does the BIOS have some option for preserving the MBR?11:02
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PMTmneptok, I just checked that 5m ago in the hopes that it had something like the P2/3-era "OMG YOU'RE WRITING TO THE BOOT SECTOR VIRUS" check but no :(11:02
THX-1138mneptok - genius - "Virus protection"11:02
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peace-keeperhelp my background image and all the icons on the desktop are gone after the last automatic update!11:03
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PMTpeace-keeper, congratulations, reboot?11:03
mneptokpeace-keeper: sounds like Nautilus went sideways11:03
peace-keeperwell it happened after reboot11:03
peace-keepertaskbar and menu are here, but no desktop11:03
PMT...uh.11:04
peace-keeper(xfce)11:04
mneptokpeace-keeper: you might want to try #xubuntu11:04
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mneptokand, thankfully, they aren't making us learn it. :)11:04
=== PMT has used it occasionally but knows nothing beyond where the icons are :)
peace-keeperit's like it used to be in windows, every time you do a system update, something is fucked up :D11:04
PMTpeace-keeper, at least it's not your critical documents!11:04
mneptokpeace-keeper: but this time you haven't paid for the privilege ;)11:05
peace-keeperwho says i paid for windows? :D11:05
mneptokoh you paid.11:05
mneptokmaybe not with money, but you paid.11:05
kothz!flash11:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:05
PMTmneptok, you beat me to it11:05
peace-keeperdid i?11:06
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Genschergood morning :)11:09
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Genscheri have some questions :)11:09
PMTCongrats. Ask them?11:09
DJAdmiral!ask11:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:09
Genschermy friend is using ubuntu now on his laptop. he sais "great, better than MSW! And i wish MSW would have a nice bash like linux"11:10
Genscherso nice work guys!11:10
Genscherbut one thing he misses is this:11:10
kothzhrm - flash is v8 but the flash player is only v7 :(11:10
PMTkothz, blame macromedia or go code for gnash. :)11:10
we2bywhat's up with lilo (freenode)?11:10
DJAdmiralwhat exactly is he missing then?11:10
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PMTwe2by, his function finally returned11:11
Genscherwhen printing PDF's he can't choose to only print even/odd pages. Another thing is like an option to print only page "1,6,2,3" or something. This is available in the OpenOffice print - menu but not in the PDF print menu11:11
we2byPMT, what function? see topic11:12
DJAdmiralDo you mean as in printing out files to PDF? Or while printing PDF files themselves?11:12
PMTwe2by, I'm unclear as to whether you're unaware that he's dead.11:12
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DJAdmiralIf it's the latter - then get the official Adobe Acrobat Reader in the repos, that might help.11:13
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GenscherDJAdmiral: it's the later - yes. In which repository can i find the official Acrobat reader for linux/ubuntu?11:13
Genscher:)11:13
PMTmultiverse or restricted?11:14
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DJAdmiraluniverse/multiverse - but best userfriendly place to get it from would be applications > Add/Remove11:14
DJAdmiralor restricted repo - definitely not sure. lemme chekc11:14
DJAdmiral!info acroread11:14
Genscherthanks a lot! how can i disable/remove the old pdf viewer?11:15
ubotuacroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)11:15
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DJAdmiralGenscher: Don't remove it or disable it - just installing acroread will make pdfs open by acroread by default. Or you can rightclick - open with Adobe Acrobat Reader once you install acroread11:15
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Genscherah great that it changes the default11:16
DJAdmiralGenscher: this command should do the trick: "sudo apt-get install acroread"11:16
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Genscherthank all you for your help :)11:16
DJAdmiralAnytime.11:16
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Genscherthis channel is really helpfull :)11:16
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DJAdmiralWith 867 people, it sure as hell is :P11:17
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llooisdoes a Video Capture Card that plays TV and records TV unto hard drive work on Ubuntu?11:17
llooisanyone know pls?11:17
DJAdmirallloois: Yes it does.11:17
llooisDJAdmiral: but the software that comes with the card is for MS XP only11:17
DJAdmirallloois: Several programs for such purposes - check them all in Applications > Add/Remove11:17
PMTlloois, probably.11:17
DJAdmirallloois: You don't need winxp software - search for open source alternatives! :D11:18
llooisDJAdmiral: ok :)11:18
kothzhrm. looking at a website that supposedly requires flash 8, but this is a reinstall of an OS, and I could view the flash bits on the last iteration... I wonder what I did differently11:18
DJAdmirallloois: That's the magic of open source!11:18
Genscherthat's another topic of mine. Is there a list which cards works best for linux/ubuntu? (e.g. i think USB video "cards" could be better than PCI)11:18
llooisDJAdmiral: ok cheeers big ears!11:18
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DJAdmiralI saw a pin once that said "This box requires Windows 95 or better - SO I INSTALLED LINUX"11:19
DJAdmirallol11:19
llooisslime_: your nick reminds me of a green stuff that runs out of my nose11:19
llooisDJAdmiral: lol11:19
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califfohi all11:19
llooisDJAdmiral: under Applications > Add/Remove, there is nothing for it11:20
llooiscaliffo: ciao!11:20
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llooiscaliffo: come stai?11:20
AbortD!amarok11:20
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org11:20
DJAdmirallloois: Did you enable the uni/multi repos?11:21
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llooisDJAdmiral: uni/multi repos?11:21
DJAdmirallloois: I was in Add/Remove just yesterday. There were PLENTY of such apps. Search!11:21
llooisDJAdmiral: search for what?11:21
DJAdmirallloois: Universe and Multiverse Repositories.11:21
llooisDJAdmiral: give me one name for search for11:22
califfoI need to install PyQT4 and "python configure.py" ask me for QT4 qmake; do you known where to find it, as it seems I can't use any qmake-qt4 I found?11:22
harisundGuys, any idea which kernel is the best one to use for an amd64-turion?11:22
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califfociao lloois11:22
g-nomecan anyone help me setting up a NIC-to-NIC connection from my ubuntu machine to windows?11:22
rofl-faceHow do I install things in Wine that I download?11:22
rofl-faceFrom IE11:22
harisundg-nome: sure. How do you want it? Cross over cable or regular cable?11:22
rofl-faceI'm just curious to see if this works or not.11:22
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DJAdmiral!repos11:22
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:22
g-nomeharisund: to be honest i don't really know if it's crossover or not11:23
DJAdmiral!universe11:23
Genscherg-nome: i installed apache on both so sharing files is easy ;)11:23
califforofl-face, you should look at ubuntu wiki pages11:23
harisund g-nome hmmm.... if it's cross over, you can setup static IPs on both computers in the same subnet, and access each other. If it's a regular cable, you will have to setup a DHCP server on one of them and use that ...11:23
llooisDJAdmiral: name one app that works for video captuire card!   I cant see one11:23
harisundGenscher: how does it help if you have apache2 on both?11:23
DJAdmirallloois: Please tell me that you have at least enabled the universe and multivere repos?11:23
llooisDJAdmiral: how can I check that?11:24
g-nomeharisund: are both ways the same fast?11:24
Genscherharisund: you can share files easily11:24
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cpk2g-nome: can the machines ping each other?11:24
g-nomecpk2: no :-(11:24
g-nomei did what you said but no :-(11:24
harisundg-nome: well.. I have used both ways .. and they are relatively fast .... unless if you use scp (which is slower due to encryption)11:24
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harisundGenscher: what do you do once you set up apache2 on both? Do you like access each other's web page or what?11:25
g-nomeharisund: no just access the windows share from my ubuntu machine (one-way)11:25
DJAdmiralone sec lloois11:25
llooisDJAdmiral: yes I have universe and multivere repos11:25
MDCorehey all.. is there subversion / trac access to ubuntu source ? Read-only naturally :)11:25
harisundg-nome: either way, you will have to hook them up some way so they can see (ping) each other.11:25
llooisDJAdmiral: but I cant see one app for video card11:25
Genscherg-nome: you need to adjust the MSW firewall,m otherwise you can't use ping from the linux machine11:25
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llooisDJAdmiral: ok ill wait11:25
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g-nome?11:25
cpk2g-nome: before you even think about getting the shares to work you need them to ping each other11:25
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g-nomei know, but it  says "host unreachable"11:26
Genscherharisund: i just edit the httpd.conf to adjust, which directory to be available11:26
g-nomei have connected both pc trough a cable (nic-to-nic) and set ip addresses for both11:26
CSWookieCould someone aid me in setting up exim4 to use tls when relaying to a smarthost (in this case, gmail)?11:26
g-nomelike 192.168.0.x11:26
harisundGenscher: you must probably mean some other file, since there is no 'httpd.conf' functionality in Ubuntu ... you mean /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file?11:26
Genscherand you can disable the sahring service pretty easy with disabling the apache11:26
Genscher:)11:26
cpk2g-nome: are you using a crossover cable?11:26
CSWookieI've poked around on Google, but I'm not getting the vital piece of the puzzle.11:27
g-nomecpk2: i don't know if it's crossover11:27
Genscheruhm, httpd.conf on msw11:27
harisundGenscher: ah ..11:27
Genscher:) but yes11:27
cpk2g-nome: you might be unable to do it without a crossover11:27
harisundGenscher: then you are basically using the http protocol for transferring files. As I mentioned earlier, once you hook the 2 computers up, you can use ftp, smb, http, scp....11:27
g-nomehow can i know if it's crossover?11:27
harisundcpk2: it can be done. One computer should have a DHCP server installed ..11:27
Genscherharisund: yeah, you're right :)11:27
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DJAdmirallloois: type this here: /join #djahelpchat11:28
g-nomei have a switch/hub if that could help11:28
harisundg-nome: try this ... look at the 2 ends of the wire and see if the orderof the colors are the same on each end ..11:28
Genscherharisund: you don't need special cables. modern cards detect it themselfes11:28
harisundg-nome: Do you know if the switch has AUTO MDX capability? If so, it will automatically adjust to both cross over and regular cable. If not, you will have to attach the wire to a 'uplink' port ..11:28
Genscheri connected msw and ubuntu yesterday11:29
harisundGenscher: assuming it is modern, of course :)...11:29
Genscher1. disable msw firewall11:29
g-nomemsw firewall? how-to?11:29
Hoxzerhi11:29
Hoxzer:) I was wondering one thing11:29
Genschersystem-settings11:29
Hoxzerhow can I get TS to run with aoss?11:29
cpk2Genscher: my motherboard is a year old and it needs a crossover11:30
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Genscherreally? ASROCK? :D11:30
califfoI need to install PyQT4 and "python configure.py" ask me for QT4 qmake; do you known where to find it, as it seems I can't use any qmake-qt4 I found?11:30
Genschercpk2: well...that's "onboard cards"11:31
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cpk2Genscher: it is "moderrn"11:31
g-nomecpk2, harisund: ok, it IS a crossover cable, assuming that the order of cable colors is different at both ends11:31
g-nomeso what now11:31
Genscherdo windows detect the cable or does it say "no cable detected"?11:32
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Genscher(when you plug it in your two computers)11:32
harisundg-nome: let's start with that assumption only. What you can do is setup static IPs on both computers, on the same subnet. For example, on Ubuntu - IP: 192.168.10.1 Gateway 192.168.10.2 Netmask 255.255.255.0 on Windows: IP 192.168.10.2 Gateway 192.168.10.2 Netmask 255.255.255.0 And then hook the 2 computers up. From your Win box you should be able to ping your Linux box.11:32
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g-nomethat's what i did and nothing happened11:33
g-nomefirewall of windows disabled11:34
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g-nomeis there one in linux i should also disable?11:34
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harisundg-nome: none, by default11:34
g-nomei tried to ping and it said "host unreachable"11:34
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califfomaybe u should disable linux firewall, and see what happens11:35
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g-nomeand i connected the win-machine directly to ubuntu machine11:35
g-nomecaliffo: how?11:35
califfoforget me :)11:35
philipsmithHow do I learn what the channel topic is?11:35
cpk2califfo: linux firewall is off by default11:35
harisundphilipsmith: type /topic in your software11:35
g-nomewhat do i have to do in ubuntu to be able to *see* my win-machine? should it be detected?11:36
Genscherg-nome: does msw detect the network cable as "inserted"?11:36
g-nomeGenscher, there's a red cross on the network icon11:36
Genscher(otherwise you have some computer with a red cross in the lower right corner )11:36
Genscherok11:36
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infidelche11:37
g-nomei will try again now with everything said11:37
Genscher1. netweork cable is damaged or 2. it's the wrong network cable or 3. it is not inserted11:37
g-nomeotherwise it should work ?11:37
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Genscherotherwise it should at least no red-cross symboll n the screen11:37
Genscher(when having only 1 network card)11:37
philipsmithEverytime I boot Dapper, a unix terminal window is open on my desktop. Other than x-ing out of it, how to I tell Dapper not to put that unix terminal window on my Desktop?11:38
g-nomeGenscher: do i need to do other things in windows?11:38
g-nomewhat should i set in the DNS address box?11:38
Genscherg-nome: we had the same problem yesterday...we put in another cable and the red-cross symbol was away. then we disabled the msw-firewall and used the ubuntu dhcp daemon.11:38
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snowblinkphilipsmith, system -> preferences -> sessions11:39
Genscheryou don't need dns in the first place...11:39
cpk2g-nome: you dont need dns11:39
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g-nomeunfortunately, i really don't know what this means, what's with DHCP?11:39
Genscheryou install dhcp service under ubuntu and msw-xp will get it's IP from ubuntu11:39
cpk2g-nome: dhcp off11:39
g-nomestatic ip, is it that?11:40
g-nomeand then manually enter one11:40
g-nome?11:40
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cpk2yes11:40
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Genscheryou can do that, too. someone here described it above11:40
cpk2it should be incredibly easy11:40
g-nomeyes thanks all, will try now11:40
g-nomeand the workgroup name?11:40
g-nomeis it of any importance?11:40
Genscherwell, that only works, if the cable works. and that means you first need to solve the cable problem11:41
Genscher;)11:41
AbortDwhat do i need to compile C?11:41
cpk2g-nome: set the linux box to 192.168.1.1 set the windows box to 192.168.1.2 and set the windows gateway to 192.168.1.111:41
cpk2g-nome: that should be all you need to do11:41
g-nomeGenscher: but let's assume it works, then?11:41
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Genscherok, listen to cpk2 :)11:41
g-nomecpk2: also set a gateway in linux to windows box?11:41
Genscherno, linux doesn't need that11:41
g-nomeok11:42
cpk2g-nome: all you need to do on linux is bring the eth interface up as 192.168.1.111:42
AbortDwhat do i need to compile C?11:42
g-nomebut the workgoup name i have to enter in windows is NOT important11:42
g-nomeok11:42
cpk2g-nome: these boxes arent connected to any other networks right?11:42
g-nomeno11:42
DarkMageZAbortD, you need build-essential11:42
g-nomeok11:42
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DarkMageZAbortD, it installs the most commonly needed compiler stuff including the c compiler 11:43
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MustDohello11:43
MustDohow can i sync my system clock?11:43
MustDo!clock11:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:43
DarkMageZMustDo, right click on it and go adjust time11:43
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MustDoDarkMageZ: i mean online sync11:45
MustDoi have my pc batterty gone away11:45
MustDoso i have to sync my clock online11:45
mneptokMustDo: sudo ntpdate time.berkeley.netdot.net11:45
MustDohow do i do11:45
MustDook11:45
MustDotnx11:45
AbortDthanks DarkMageZ11:45
mneptokMustDo: and if you want that to be done automagically for you, sudo apt-get install ntpd11:45
DarkMageZthere's also the "sync now" button in there...11:45
haappers:)11:46
DarkMageZAbortD, np, what are you compiling anyways?11:46
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AbortDthe mana world11:47
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haappersI have a problem with the x server11:49
llooisanyone here use MSN in Gaim?11:49
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DarkMageZAbortD, ai's already built that for us :P11:49
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g-nomesorry, forgot to ask: should the gateway address (on the win-machine) be the IP-address of the win-machine or that from the ubuntu one?11:50
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DarkMageZAbortD, http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=30&func=view&id=835&catid=3611:50
haappersxfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/username/.ICEAuthority: Permission denied11:50
mwright1Hi, if I install Edgy Eft Beta1... willl it apt-get upgrade to the release version11:50
mwright1or will I be stuck on Development11:50
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llooisg-nome: why?11:50
AbortDyeah DarkMageZ i just like to package my own :P11:51
llooisanyone here use MSN in Gaim?11:51
g-nomelloois: to connect both machines11:51
cpk2g-nome: i would make it the ip of the nix box11:51
llooisg-nome: ah ok11:51
DarkMageZAbortD, ah, k have fun 11:51
g-nomecpk2: ok thanks11:51
ForthHi11:51
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haappersmwright1 I think so11:52
AbortDDarkMageZ, how did you do that smiley?11:52
MustDo!nvidia11:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:52
haappersthx ubotu11:53
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DarkMageZAbortD, it's a katakana symbol. i can't remember how you type those in11:53
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deFrysk!botsnack11:53
ubotuYum!11:53
ForthI'd like to user freemind on my dapper (ppc), so I've installed ibm jdk and everything goes smooth but now I'm trying the jabber freemind plugin and it doesn't work because I guess the less of support of ssl in the ibm jre11:53
AbortDoh11:54
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Forthhere is a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25152/11:55
haappersmwright1 isnt there an upgrade parameter in apt-get11:55
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haappersfull upgrade (distro version) i mean11:56
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lastnodehaappers, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:58
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cpk2could use some advice on setting my partitions on a fresh install11:58
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cpk2I have 1 40G(ide) and 1 300G(SATA) drive, want to have at least a seperate / and /home11:59
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hendiI was writing email and suddenly my keyboard stopped working, even after reboot. No keys work, neither do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Problem is only in Gnome, unter gdm keys work fine. Now I'm using another account, and keys work under Gnome. Any ideas?11:59
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NahkissI wonder if there's any repo that has mpd with shoutcast(/icecast2) support?11:59
TheCanhi - i just tried the new ubuntu 6.10 beta - where is this "much better" file open dialog in gnome?! It got even worse, now you cant even create a folder there11:59
haappersput linux on the sata11:59
mwright1I want to know if I install 6.10 beta1 if it will apt-get upgrade all the way to the release veresino of Edgy Eft11:59
mwright1or will I be stuck on some devel version like rawhide is to redhat12:00
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cpk2haappers: I am formatting everything to ext3...12:00
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haapperscpk2: i meant put the system on the sata drive12:01
orion2012mwright1: no, you will be able to dist-upgrade to edgy final12:01
Nahkisscpk2, probably good to put / and /home both on the sata as it has better performance12:01
zorgIsBackhi12:01
mwright1roadmap wise, is beta1 the final RC or will there be other betas12:01
haapperscpk2:what nahkiss said12:01
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cpk2but what am i going to do with the ide? i kinda wanted to just put / and swap on the 40G that way i wouldnt have anything spanning 2 hard drives12:02
haapperscpk2: put knoppix on it12:02
haapperscpk2: :D12:02
pwkhi12:02
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pettern-i seem to have broken my ubuntu. When i boot it up i get a message saying that /dev/sda8 does not exist(thats my root partition). Then it drops to ash shell. I did remove some kernel packages some days ago so i must have removed something i needed. Is there any way to fix that?12:02
zorgIsBackis EdgyEft a livecd?12:02
cpk2lol12:02
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pwkcan anybody tell me where i can find a guide with pcitures on howto do basic stuff in ubuntu?12:03
Nahkisscpk2, you're gonna use your pc just on plain desktop use?12:03
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mikhail^anybody here has success with using boostbook with the packaged boost-build system?12:03
grouchytimzorgIsBack:  yes it's a live CD12:03
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cpk2Nahkiss: what do you mean? its a desktop, no I dont plan on running a server off of it12:03
zorgIsBackthanks grouchytim12:04
grouchytimYW12:04
zorgIsBackanybody knows if wpa2 is working?12:04
pwkanybody know where i can find one ?12:04
cpk2Nahkiss: what about having a seperate /usr partition as well?12:04
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haappersi hate vim! argghhhh12:05
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LiraNunathere's always gedit \o/12:05
haappersim on console12:05
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^selfhaappers: apt-get install nvi12:05
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webbenI'd like to buy an external USB DVD rewriter. Which companies' USB DVD rewriters tend to work best with Ubuntu?12:05
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frogzoo!hardware12:06
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:06
^selfor, if you hate vi in all its unholy forms, and will not switch to emacs, there's joe12:06
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haappersirc is a bitch old-school12:06
Nahkisscpk2, well I don't actually have much knowledge about what is good partitioning scheme but if you want to get best performance, even for desktop use, having all on sata drive would be good. ofc you can use the 40gb as storage drive for some files that you don't use so frequently12:06
balorWill edgy get the latest NVidia beta drivers?  Or will that be edgy+1?12:06
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haappersi like joe12:06
ThinkClearHi all12:06
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haappersits not installed by default is it?12:06
ThinkClearCan someone help me out12:07
ThinkClearneed help12:07
cpk2i just dont see sata giving a very big performance boost12:07
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webbenfrogzoo, i don't see any list of DVD rewriters there12:07
cpk2the biggest bonus about sata for me is the small plugs =P12:07
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Nahkisscpk2, ye well, it's not actually so much faster in desktop use I guess :P12:08
webbendoes anyone have an external USB DVD rewriter that works?12:08
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haapperscpk2: apparently the difference between ATA-100 and ATA-133 is nominal12:08
haapperscpk2: but i did notice a difference with SATA12:08
haapperswhich is ATA-150 ?12:08
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Nahkissto be honest, you could just sell the 40gb drive or something :P isn't 300gb enought :P12:09
^selfapt-get gave me a new kernel (2.6.15-27).  after i rebooted, i no longer have /dev/usb.  how do i, um, get it back?12:09
okamiwebben: I do, it's just a standard external USB case with a LG dvd writer... works just fine12:09
infidelcan someone tell me how to server a html file with apache? i have apache up and running, i'm just trying to point an html file to an ip address12:09
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superkirbyartistI have problems with PPP.12:09
superkirbyartist!ppp12:09
ubotuppp: Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.4b1-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 314 kB, installed size 1000 kB12:09
webbenokami: Ah... thanks for the report :)12:09
califfo^self, try sudo mount /dev/usb12:09
okamiwebben: np12:09
califfoI need to install PyQT4 and "python configure.py" ask me for QT4 qmake; do you known where to find it, as it seems I can't use any qmake-qt4 I found?12:09
ThinkClearIm sorry to interupted , but does anyone now how to get apacheserver on the internet12:09
^selfcaliffo: it's not in my fstab.12:10
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haappersthe old ide cables are shit compared to sata12:10
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cpk2Nahkiss: eventually i will get rid of the 40gig but right now I am tight on space hehe12:11
superkirbyartistI need help with PPP: cannot access internet.12:11
haapperscpk2: use it as backup space?12:12
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haappersput all of your napster porn on it12:13
sethkinfidel, if you mean that you need to create a virtual domain for apache, it's a bit tricky, but the comments in the httpd.conf file should help you.12:13
sethkinfidel, I'm off for work, I'll try and get onto here when I get there.12:13
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haapperscause i know you dont have that much text data12:13
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mneptokactually, vhosts are no longer defined in httpd.conf12:14
cpk2haappers: i do have 100gigs of video though...12:14
superkirbyartistI need help with PPP.  Cannot access PPP.  This is important!12:14
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: let me guess. Winmodem?12:14
superkirbyartistYes.  Connexant.  Modem works.12:14
haapperscp2k: bingo12:14
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: how do you know the modem works?12:14
superkirbyartistIt dials the number, UN sent, PW sent, welcome message received, ip/dns received.12:15
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haappersback in the old days we had 500mb HDD and it was great12:15
mneptokso then what is the problem?12:15
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superkirbyartistmneptok: Firefox/Gaim does not work.12:16
PunjabiFLOYDIANguys i m writing an article for my school magazine on why to switch over to linux12:16
fredrichhello, any of you know how to install mediatomb on dapper?12:16
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PunjabiFLOYDIANso please if someone has time. inputs are appreciated12:16
chalcedonyPunjabiFLOYDIAN: virueses, trojans, back doors and money12:17
haappersPunjabiFLYDIAN: switch to ReactOS12:17
lastnodePunjabiFLOYDIAN, #ubuntu-offtopic please12:17
PunjabiFLOYDIANok ok i m leaving. will the guys there answer? or can u suggest some otehr channel?12:17
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: if PPP was the problem, you would not connect, not login, get no DHCP info, etc.12:17
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: can you ping hosts by IP? do name lookups?12:17
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superkirbyartistRight.12:17
superkirbyartistI can ping 6...12:18
superkirbyartist6x.x.xx.x?12:18
superkirbyartistNot sure but it works.12:18
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mneptoksuperkirbyartist: http://82.211.81.16612:18
mneptokdoes Firefox load that page?12:19
superkirbyartistLesee...12:19
superkirbyartistDial-up is on other PC.12:19
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haapperswhat was the off channel again?12:19
MustDopeope has everyone got a nvidia tnt2 riva? i would like to know what drivers  to install?!12:20
haappersif i run off the mobo gfx card will i have nvidia issues?12:20
haappersits SISfx or something like that12:20
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balorMustDo, the nv driver12:22
rofl-faceI almost had soulseek working on wine.12:22
rofl-faceDangit12:22
superkirbyartistYES!  IT WORKS!  THANK YOU!12:24
superkirbyartist(Caps used to represent excitement)12:24
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ogahey all i'm not sure what i've done but i've somehow destroyed my sound (and everything was working so well....) is there a way to debug sound problems12:24
ogai recently installed a couple of extra codecs to try and get quicktime files to play12:24
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rofl-faceREINSTALL EVERYTHING. Ok, maybe not.12:25
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: so it works by IP address and not name. so they problem you have is DNS. talk to your ISP>12:25
rofl-faceI reinstalled ubuntu 3 times yesterday.12:25
ogaand also installed ipodder & xine,12:25
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rofl-facealso winamp for wine doesn't work. I tried it like 90 times.12:26
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mneptokjust. use. Rhythmbox.12:26
mneptokor Amarok. or Banshee.12:26
okamior xmms12:27
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rofl-facewine=windows12:27
mneptokand Xine, XMMS, Totem, or mplayer.12:27
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rofl-facei use xmms in ubuntu12:27
rofl-facei <3 xmms12:27
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ogamneptok i've tried xmms, xine & totem (everything was working earlier today) and i'm not sure what i've done to break it.12:27
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gokhan_how install this compiz http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=4278612:27
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mneptokoga: have you checked the ALSA mixers and whatnot?12:28
rofl-faceman if i could refind what i found earlier people with esd AND alsa would feel happy.12:28
gokhan_how install this compiz http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42786 ??12:29
pwki would of ran ubntu as main os if it supported all my stuff12:29
ogamneptok nope, where are they (or if that is just looking at the volume control panel then yes i have)12:29
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rofl-faceI can listen to music and play youtube videos at the same time so far.12:30
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ogai'm rebooting.... maybe i've found the problem12:30
rofl-facelet's just hope it stays that way.12:30
pwkguess i'm just a windows user12:30
pwk{{ gHg t  }}12:30
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rofl-faceI'd like to have Windows again someday, but this has to do for now.12:31
pwktoo bad all software is windows12:31
rofl-faceThat's the thing that sucks.12:31
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pwki'm in windows vista, and its a big improvement12:31
rofl-facelike i love mirc.12:31
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rofl-facebut i have to use wine in order to get mirc to work.12:31
mneptokpwk: "all software?"12:31
pwklike software that don't work in wine12:32
rofl-facesoulseek doesn't work.12:32
rofl-faceI just tried it :(12:32
mneptokpwk: OSX does not work in WINE12:32
Shishpeople actually use mirc after they've tried an alternative o_O? (This assumes you did try the native clients first...)12:32
superkirbyartistOnly Google works... :-(12:32
mneptokOSX does not work in Windows.12:32
rofl-faceYah, I don't know it's ugly looking Shish but it's...well..12:32
rofl-faceIt's hard to explain.12:33
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: contact your ISP. you have DNS issues.12:33
pwki tired osx beofe, it was ok12:33
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rofl-faceHahaha12:33
superkirbyartistI can always try other IPs12:33
rofl-faceAlright for getting ignored!12:33
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Bazzi_Shish: There are weird people indeed12:33
mneptokmIRC is to IRC clients what the Yugo was to cars/12:33
pwkdid somebody just ignore me ?12:33
mataharihi12:33
mneptokpwk: if so, how would they answer?12:33
rofl-faceEh doesn't matter to me.12:34
pwk{{ gHg t  }}12:34
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rofl-faceI like it.12:34
okamilol @ mneptok12:34
rofl-faceI think I just got ignored.12:34
rofl-faceCause I <3 mIRC12:34
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superkirbyartistmneptok: I will be back.12:34
mataharii just can't log in via ssh in my ubuntu box.... i edited the sshd_config and set everything i know that is needed to authenticate via password, but it always complains by"Permission denied, try again"12:34
rofl-faceBut wine is pretty cool.12:35
pwkif i knew my angel tv tuner card work in ubntu12:35
mneptokmatahari: sshd_config needs no editing12:35
rofl-faceHey I didn't expect my sound to work at all and look at me now!12:35
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rofl-faceWindows didn't like my onboard soundcard or something, so it wouldn't play sound at all.12:35
mataharimneptok: when i don't edit this file it won't conect too12:35
mneptokrofl-face: yeah, look at you. you get into another OS and promptly start trying to make it into Windows. :P12:35
okamimneptok: Umm... sshd_config allows root login's by default12:35
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mneptokokami: not on Ubuntu it doesn't12:36
sc0ttymy sound works, but my stupid multimedia keys won't control the master, thus they have no effect12:36
sc0ttystupid keys12:36
pwki'm thinking about running in vmware first12:36
sc0ttythey worked fine wednesday12:36
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rofl-faceI know mneptok.12:36
okamimneptok: Did you change it, the default install here did12:36
AstinusGood Morning :) I'm having some problems under Edgy Eft with Intel IPW3945 A/B/G wireless - module is loaded fine, but the interface doesn't show up. Laptop is a Samsung Q35, does anyone have any ideas?12:36
pwkwhen i restart and bootup to xp, i'll use vmware12:36
pwkand if everything goes well.. i'll hvae main os12:37
rofl-faceActually I installed ubuntu on a whim.12:37
mneptokokami: root has no password in Ubuntu. therefore root cannot login locally OR via ssh/12:37
snowblinkAstinus, /j #ubuntu+112:37
pwkwhats "whim"?12:37
Rambo3Astinus: WEP WAP12:37
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rofl-faceWhim as in my XP disc got messed up.12:37
okamimneptok: o-tay12:37
rofl-faceNeeded an os for this computer.12:37
balor /j #ubuntu+112:37
rofl-faceDecided to give this a try.12:37
pwkCool12:37
superkirbyartistmneptok: Neopets works with magic number.12:37
Astinussnowblink: Thank you.12:37
pwki've had ubntu on my mind last days12:38
Astinus/win 2212:38
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: the fact remains that you have a DNS issue12:38
AstinusErk :/12:38
pwkubntuntu suppose to be easiest to leanr i guess12:38
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rofl-faceSomeone mentioned to me to try my soundcard on Ubuntu12:38
mataharisay, what could be the reason why i can't login via ssh12:38
rofl-faceBecause it wasn't working in Windows12:38
superkirbyartistHeck, all sites work with magic numbers.  Letters do not.  How do I fix DNS issue?  What do I tell ISP?12:38
rofl-faceSo I kinda had ubuntu on my mind.12:38
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: you can test this site and that site and however many you want. but you still cannot conenct to some servers by name, but can do so via raw IP. that's DNS.12:38
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andybalaammatahari: what error message are you seeing?12:38
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pwke ack ater12:39
mataharipermission denied please try again12:39
rofl-face3 is the magic number.12:39
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: you tell them that their DHCP server is not properly assigning DNS servers when it gives out leases.12:39
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superkirbyartistOkay.12:39
rofl-faceHas anyone tried Wine? What did they get to work with it?12:39
andybalaammatahari: are you behind a firewall at either end?12:39
ogahey all thanks for the help (and suggesting all the alternative music players) but somehow the pcm level got muted (i have not idea how) it's all good now12:39
rofl-faceSo far my list is not work: Soulseek12:39
superkirbyartistThanks a lot man!  I can at least (partly) access the web!12:39
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: np. that's why they pay me. :)12:40
Rambo3oga search allsa gui mixer12:40
Rambo3alsa12:40
superkirbyartistYou're paid for free help !?12:40
refuzehey i am trying to unextract a RAR archive that has folders in hebrew and i get an error message that it cannot create the folders12:40
rofl-facegui mixer eh?12:40
okamisuperkirby: do you have any entries in /etc/resolv.conf ?12:40
rofl-facewhat's that suppose to do?12:40
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: who says my help is free? ;)12:40
rofl-faceis that a graphical alsa mixer?12:40
andybalaammatahari: are you behind a firewall at either end?12:40
superkirbyartistIt's IRC.12:40
superkirbyartistIRC = free.12:40
mneptoksuperkirbyartist: but my desk and the Canonical support queue and Launchpad and and and ... are not. :)12:41
andybalaammatahari: what exact command are you typing, and what exact error are you seeing? (Select text to copy and middle-click to paste into chat)12:41
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rofl-faceMaybe Rambo DID ignore me.12:41
superkirbyartistOkay.  Well simply thank you.12:41
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rofl-faceAll because of my love for the dear and wonderful mIRC.12:41
mneptokoh, another Canuckian12:41
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okami< thinks same as mneptok12:41
Rambo3oga or you can use alsamixer from command line12:42
Rambo3i cant find gui in repos12:42
matahariandybalaam: cop and paste doesn't work - this is another box12:42
pebblestoneHi I need help. I accidently deleted /etc/mysql. and now I couldn't even reinstall it. Aptitude report that the configuration file my.cnf debian.cnf and debian-start are missing. What should I do to recover from it?12:42
rofl-facei should probably update my wine stuff.12:42
mataharii used the command ssh localhost -lmatahari12:42
andybalaammatahari: ok, type in the command you used12:42
ogaRambo3 don't worry bout me i've got it under control i'm listening to wolfmother right now (they are the shit by the way)12:42
andybalaammatahari: (obviously leave out passwords)12:42
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higenhmm.. i have some problems with startup of my computer after moving /var to another partition then the root partition.. it seems that the partition with /var get mounted later then certan scripts that runs12:42
matahariand got an permission denied, pelase try again12:43
mneptokhigen: fstab12:43
okamiI don't envy superkirby talking to sympatico tech support... you say linux and they tune out12:43
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mneptokokami: that's why i use a different ISP with my bell.ca DSL service ;)12:43
higenmneptok: is the fstab mounted sequencal?12:43
andybalaammatahari: is the ssh service running?12:43
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mneptokhigen: usually, yes12:44
rofl-faceOk me not need a 6am bedtime12:44
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mneptokhigen: on-channel, please12:44
andybalaammatahari: did you get this? "ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused"12:44
mataharissh is running12:44
mataharithe error you mentioned doesn't occur12:44
andybalaammatahari: so it literally just says "permission denied" ?12:44
higensure12:44
mneptokmatahari: please e-mail your sshd_config to kurt@ubuntu.com12:45
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matahariyes12:45
andybalaammatahari: weird12:45
mataharican i paste it too?12:45
mneptokplease do not12:45
higenokay.. the thing is.. that the network-loopback interface having problem comming up..12:45
mataharii mean it pastebin12:45
higeni guess its due to non-access to /var12:45
mneptoksure, if you want12:45
andybalaammatahari: go for it12:45
okamimatahari: have you made any changes to /etc/hosts.{allow/deny} ?12:45
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mataharino, no changes12:46
mneptokhigen: you'll want to explicitly state ext3 as type for /home and /var12:46
okamiok. so it's not that then12:46
higenmneptok: even its a bind?12:47
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matahariwww.phpfi.com/15841812:47
mneptokhigen: you should probably put /usr in pass 0, too12:47
okamidoes sudo lsof -i show sshd listening on port 22/tcp12:47
higenok.. i guess thats the issue then12:47
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matahariyes12:48
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andybalaammatahari: what happens if you do "telnet localhost 22" ?12:48
mneptokmatahari: remove the last line from sshd_config12:48
okamimatahari: are you using a firewall? like firestarter?12:48
andybalaammneptok: well spotted12:48
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matahariandybalaam: name or service not known12:49
matahariokami: no12:49
mataharimneptok: ok12:49
okamihmm...12:49
mneptokmatahari: aslo comment out "PasswordAuthentication yes"12:50
mneptok*also12:50
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mataharinow irt works12:50
mataharithanks12:50
mneptoknp12:50
andybalaammatahari: cool!12:50
termosi have two soundcards, one live! and an on-board intel one but none of them seem to play any sound, i've set the live one to default card in ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf but it doesn't seem to help12:50
matahariwhy does the AllowUsers directive block them?12:51
andybalaamDoes anyone have any idea why the kernel does not seem to see my DVB card?12:51
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higenmneptok: thanks, the pass 2 to 0 was the magic.. i see now why :P  i have been staring my eyes blind on that file for days12:52
andybalaammatahari: I think it means "only allow these users"12:52
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mneptokhigen: glad it works :)12:52
mataharibut i logged in as one of these users12:52
mataharistrange :-/12:52
mneptokmatahari: AllowUsers is for PAM authentication, which you are not doing.12:53
mneptokmatahari: so what you basically told sshd was "allow these users to connect via PAM, disallow everyone else, and PAM is not setup"12:53
mataharioh, that's the key12:53
mneptokwhich, in effect, blackos everyone.12:53
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mataharithanks12:53
mneptok*blackholes12:53
mneptokcan i interest anyone in an official Canonical support contract? :D12:54
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znullheya if I upgrade my dapper to edgy  (i got ati 9200) I will still have 3d acc.?12:56
mataharii have another ssh issue12:56
tritiumznull: yes.  edgy questions really belong in #ubuntu+112:57
znulloh ok thanks12:57
mataharihow can i copy a file via scp that is only readbe for root..... scp root@host won't work i suppose12:57
mataharisudo scp doesn't have any effect on the remote host12:57
okamiznull: add the following to the end of /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:58
okamiSection "Extensions"12:58
okami        Option      "Composite" "0"12:58
okamiEndSection12:58
avr_freakCan anyone help me how to install Ubuntu in Old PC (PIII 800Mhz) with Ati Graphics Card (8MB) ?12:58
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Rambo3avr_freak: same way you would install on normal PC12:59
kzmavr_freak, I tried the boot CD on an old PC with too little RAM (64Mb?)  That didn't work too good.12:59
kzmof course, it could be the 1x CD player that was the bottleneck :-)12:59
znullokami: whats that? to work my drivers on edgy?12:59
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avr_freaki have problem with ATI i guess ...01:00
okamiznull: without it, you'll lose your 3d acc.01:00
znullokami: but fglrx works with xorg 7.1?01:00
mneptokznull: i would stick with Dapper for now01:00
mneptokunless you like downloading 150-250MB of updates daily.01:01
znullmneptok: then how do I update just gnome?01:01
kzmIs there a repository for more updated packages?  (I'm getting tired of installing tar.gz snapshots all the time)01:01
okamiznull: Yes but xorg in edgy defaults to composite enabled, fglrx doesn't support it01:01
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kzmPerhaps I can compile sources from Debian unstable or something...01:01
MustDo!nvidia01:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:02
frogzoo!easysources01:02
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:02
mneptokznull: you can't wait a couple weeks?01:02
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frogzoo!easysources > kzm01:02
znullokami: then with that line is going to work my edgy? cuz last time it didn't worked when I upgrade to egdy..01:02
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znullmneptok: no:P i want new gnome usplash +kernel:D01:03
mneptokugh. i don;t like the edgy+1 codename. :(01:03
warlockHow to set the dir /home/users/ so all files in that dir is owned by "sbnc" ?01:03
okamiznull: should do. It's the one problem that got me for a hour or so01:03
mneptokznull: uhhh .... GNOME doesn;t provide a kernel.01:03
znullmneptok: i know that01:03
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mneptokwarlock: sudo chown -R sbnc:sbnc /home/users01:04
abortd!widget01:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:04
znullmneptok: i said that I want that packages.. gnome/kernel/usplash/ and new init script that I've read01:04
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andybalaamDoes anyone have any idea why the kernel does not seem to see my DVB card?01:06
andybalaam /dev/video0 does not exist01:06
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andybalaamnot mentioned in dmesg01:06
andybalaamBut apparently it's supported Hauppauge Win-TV (NOVA-t)01:07
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andybalaamlspci gives its chipset as "Phillips Semiconductors SAA7146"01:08
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Rambo3mythtv wiki has something about those cards on ubuntu01:10
Rambo3!mythtv01:10
ubotumythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/01:10
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andybalaamThanks, looking01:11
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godfatherhy guys01:11
godfatheri need a programme to burn cd mp3 dvd and so on like neroburning runningon windows01:11
Rambo3To use a Hauppauge TV capture card you will need to install the ivtv driver and card firmware. Ivtv is not yet available as a package, so install it from source.01:12
Rambo3[edit] 01:12
soniumdoes someone use nessus here?01:12
soniummy frontend always crashes on login01:12
KenSentMeWhat client do you people use to download podcasts?01:12
soniumis this normal?01:12
Rambo3andybalaam: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation01:12
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okamiKenSentMe: CastPodder01:12
soniumoh... it doesn't crash... just needs some time to log in01:12
godfatheris there anyprogramme like neroburning running on linuxu with gnome?01:13
andybalaamRambo3: thanks, I'll take a look01:13
KenSentMeokami: which version?01:13
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mneptokok, i'm off for my weekend01:13
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KenSentMemneptok: have a nice weekend then01:13
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ieldibhey everybody01:14
okamiKenSentMe: 5.1-201:14
npsterWhat is another program like Picasa for Linux. I am having problems with Picasa with PTP.01:14
ieldibcan anyone help me get my ipw3945 wlan working ?01:14
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andybalaamRambo3: Isn't IVTV for analogue cards?01:14
KenSentMeokami: did you use the deb download from the castpodder website, because the program doesn't run here01:14
andybalaammneptok: have a good one!01:14
ieldibanyone ?01:14
ponsfrilusnpster: digikam, f-spot, gqview, gthumb, jbrout, gwenview01:15
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godfatherplease help01:15
npsterI just used gthumb and it says this: PTP Protocol error, response expected01:15
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godfatheri need a programme to burn everything cd dvd and so on01:15
ponsfrilushttp://mapivi.sourceforge.net/mapivi.shtml#download01:15
ieldibanyone ?01:15
godfatherplease give me a trick01:15
okamiKenSentMe: Well sort of, I installed ipodder first to get all the dependancies then uninstalled ipodder and installed castpodder01:16
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Janchi@ieldib, what is wrong withit01:16
KenSentMeokami: ah, ok01:16
JanchiDid you do a google for it already?01:16
okamiKenSentMe: :-) I found ipodder to be buggy and it's not supported anymore01:16
npsterI am using a Sony DSC Cyber-Shot S9001:16
andybalaamRambo3: Isn't IVTV for analogue cards?01:17
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Arcainushi there01:17
KenSentMeokami: i used it too, but now i'm looking for something else01:17
Arcainusim having an issue with hardware raid 101:17
godfatheranyone that burns dvd and cd?01:17
Arcainusi setup raid 1 in the bios01:17
Rambo3andybalaam: i have no idea , search ubuntuforums for your card and wiki01:17
npstercome on01:17
okamiKenSentMe: Castpodder and Ipodder are virtually identical01:18
Janchigodfather, I use K3B, works like a charm01:18
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andybalaamRambo3: OK, thanks - I have done that, but I'll keep trying01:18
KenSentMeokami: did you install the beep media player too?01:18
Arcainusand im trying to install ubuntu server and at the partition screens it doesnt show the two disks i setup as raid 1 as one disk but 2 dicks01:18
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godfatheryes but i have gnome01:18
ieldibanyone ?01:18
zappehow do i block a domian to send mail to me? like blabla.com (in exim)01:18
godfatheri could have some problems with k3b01:18
okamiKenSentMe: No, but then again I load all my cast's onto my iaudio X5 to listen to them01:19
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Janchigodfather, shouldn't be a problem. I used Synaptic to install it. I use it under Gnome without a glitch01:19
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jman8888?01:19
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KenSentMeokami: do you ever listen to the LugRadio by chance? I had a problem with the file extensions of the downloads with ipodder01:19
Arcainusdoe sanyone have any idea?01:20
jman8888Hey what should i do. Im installing Ubuntu on a laptop and Although its a supported wireless card(And it even says it in the ubuntu site and it should be autodetected) but in a text install it wasnt detected.01:20
Janchigodfather, did you check the regular install possibilities. There should be something like Gnomeburner01:20
godfatherok janchi01:20
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okamiKenSentME: Yes, I love LugRadio... I did have that problem with season 3, but season 4 seems to have fixed the problem01:20
godfathertahnk you01:20
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edgyHi, I did sudo a2enmod expires to enable the expires module but /usr/sbin/apache2 -l doesn't list it, why?01:21
okamiKenSentMe: Beard and Chin :-)01:21
Juhaznpster, you should be able to set it to usb mass storage mode if ptp doesn't work01:21
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jman8888Did anybody see my problem?01:22
godfathergood bye01:22
godfathermay the force be with you01:22
Juhaznpster, or perhaps from normal to ptp, or something, anyway check the in-camera menus01:22
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ieldibcan anyone help me get my ipw3945 wlan up and going ?01:22
cpk2guys i am trying to manually edit my sata drives partition on the livecd but when i go to select it the gui goes blank and i have to click the "back" button01:22
ieldibplease01:22
Janchi@ ieldib, just tell us what is wrong and what you did to solve the issue already01:23
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ieldibwell i have tried automatix (Becuase i've read on the forums that after the install it will automatically install the drivers and all would be fine after a reboot)01:24
ieldibI have also gone into network/admin01:24
ieldiband seen that it is already sniffing out  networks01:24
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ieldib(because SSID's are already stored in their)01:24
ieldibi selected my wlan01:24
cpk2i still have 50 megs on /dev/hda and am considering partitioning that as /home and then partitioning my sata later as /home is this a viable solution?01:24
ieldibput in my wep key01:24
ieldiband nothing01:24
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variantieldib: automatix is good for borking systems01:25
ieldiblol01:25
ieldibvariant: i was told to install network-manager01:25
ieldibthat is done01:25
ieldibexcept no wlan shows up in network manager01:25
jman8888hello. Can anybody tell me why my supported wirelesscard (DWL-650) Wasnt detected during install?) And how to set it up.01:26
ieldibjman8888 i'am going through a similar issue01:26
ieldibeverything else is running beautifully01:27
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ieldibanyone ?01:27
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jazzrockerjman8888, is that a PCI wireless?01:28
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jman8888jazzrocker, ?01:28
jazzrockerjman8888, is it a laptop01:28
jman8888jazzrocker, yes01:28
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mike1hey how to configure my notebook to not be seen/logged on a wireless network01:30
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jman8888https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported <--Says it works completely out of the box. All yes's01:31
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jman8888jazzrocker, So will that laptop have no internet?01:31
ieldibbrb think i got it up01:31
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papacuthuan01:32
mike1no I'm just looking at not being seen (I don'[t want to pop up in someone's network folder01:32
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mike1At home I share everything on the computer behind the router01:32
mike1I want to be as close to invisable as possible01:33
mike1when I'm out01:33
mrDaniel_I want to print a pdf with 'lp' in a file and not with a normal physical printer01:33
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mike1really when I'm on some free wifi network or using a neigbors01:33
mrDaniel_what I have to do, so I can print in a file with lp?01:33
mrDaniel_or isn't this possible?01:34
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mrDaniel_when not: how I can set a new printer under ubuntu, which automatically prints in a file?01:34
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mcphailmrDaniel_: why not just use pdftoppm?01:34
mrDaniel_pdftoppm? never heard this command01:35
mrDaniel_mcphail: thank you, i will now read the man-pages a check what this command is god for01:35
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jman8888A lot of people are quitting...01:39
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elias_Concerning the topic of ubuntu+1: Edgy is not ment to be used on production machines ever or just not before it's final release?01:40
rysiek|plhi guys01:41
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rysiek|plsuppose I've made a mistake and installed ubuntu 6.06 32bit edition on my 64bit system01:41
nickspoondoesn't really matter.01:41
rysiek|plis there a way of - say - upgrading(?) to 64bit without reinstallation?01:42
edgyelias_: I guess not before the final release01:42
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nickspoonI prefer running 32-bit for stuff like Flash and w32codecs.01:42
jbleauDoes anybody know why ever since I installed edgy I can't download new packages with the add / remove? It simply hangs on "Downloading..." and never seems to make a connection.01:42
jbleauWait!01:42
jbleauNevermind.01:42
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avr_freakAnyone to help me with Ati rage in Ubuntu ... I can't run startx ! Please in private ... Tnks01:43
rysiek|plnickspoon: yeah, I know, but just assume I'm not interested in w32codecs and flash, but need the full 64bits working01:43
rysiek|plso is there a way of "switching"?01:43
nickspoonrysiek|pl: no.01:43
nickspoonsimple, eh?01:44
nickspoonyou'd have to pretty much reinstall every package on your whole system.01:44
nickspoonso it's much easier just to download the 64-bit CD.01:44
rysiek|plnickspoon: yeah, I know that. I was just wandering, if it's possible to mangle with sources list and do it automagically through apt01:44
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nickspoondoubt it.01:45
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rysiek|pldarn01:45
rysiek|plok, anyways - thanks01:45
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wwwdotcomDoes anyone know how to eject a cd from a g3 powerpc?01:47
nickspoonisn't there a button?01:47
nickspoonor just right-click on the CD icon and click Eject.01:48
wwwdotcomI see no obvious button01:48
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wwwdotcomnickspoon, I can't, I have installed ubuntu, so it has to reboot, but when it does it goes to cd instead01:48
wwwdotcomand tries to reinstall01:48
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nickspoonI'm fairly sure there's an Eject CD button on the keyboard.#01:49
joukeHey, I am trying to install the adobe acrobat pdf reader. The install went fine, but now it crashes with the following error: "(acroread:13462): GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (1000)" maybe it has something to do with our ldap account system?01:49
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sam_kWhats the best torrent client for ubuntu?01:50
ghosthello, i have (only) SATA HD and a normal CD/DVDrom drive, should i plug the CD/DVDROM drive into the *primary" or the *secondary* connector (as master of course)?01:50
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mrDaniel_sam_k: I think that azureus is the the best client01:51
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nickspoonsam_k: azureus.01:51
mrDaniel_ghost: I think this is not important01:51
nickspoonghost: doesn't matter.01:51
ghostok fine01:51
mrDaniel_is there a way to set a new printer under ubuntu, which print only in file?01:51
sam_kmrDaniel_ , nickspoon: Thanks for your help.01:52
Samuli^azureus? It's a memory hog.01:52
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nickspoonSamuli^: to be expected with Java, but it's very nice feature-wise.01:53
mrDaniel_Samuli^: yes, you're right, but it's also the best client for bittorrent i know01:53
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justin_Does anyone know of a program to copy BadCD's for Linux, it would be to copy image files -- I want it to copy as much as it possibly can, instead of saying "error" and saving nothing at all --01:54
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Samuli^mrDaniel_, you might be right.01:55
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Samuli^I like the original bittorrent but it definately is lean on the features.01:55
DarkMageZSamuli^, mrDaniel_, ktorrent isn't a bad bittorrent client01:55
wwwdotcomOk, I got the CD out, you have to hold the mouse down.  When it loads ubuntu, I have to log in, then I get something like "~$" What do I do from there?01:55
Samuli^it's great if you're using kde01:55
DarkMageZSamuli^, i use it under gnome anyways 01:56
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nickspoonwwwdotcom: gdm01:57
Samuli^wow, ktorrent didn't even install any libraries with it, under gnome.01:57
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ghosti have a serious problem: my ubuntu CRASHES all the time, randomly!01:57
wwwdotcomnickspoon, it says command not found01:58
nickspoonwwwdotcom: did you use a server or desktop installer?01:58
wwwdotcomI downloaded something called "alternate"01:58
elias_Will firefox 2.0 be backported to dapper from edgy? It would be great if it would be general policy to backport the new versions of important apps like firefox and openoffice to the LTS releases!01:58
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nickspoonwwwdotcom: which option did you choose when you installed, server or desktop?01:59
TiZZ_can anyone help with a zip drive problem??01:59
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wwwdotcomnick, there wasn't an option01:59
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nickspoonwwwdotcom: was this ubuntu or kubuntu you installed, by the way?02:00
wwwdotcomubuntu02:00
ghosti have a serious problem: my ubuntu CRASHES all the time, randomly! what can i do to diagnose?02:00
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zmohello02:00
avr_freakwhat about Ubuntu an old Ati Rage Cards ? I cant run Strartx02:00
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Code-ECan anybody tell me what a good iso burning software is?02:00
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zmohow can I see from what repository comes a given package ?02:00
Code-Efor ubuntu*02:00
zmoI forgot what command gives that02:00
nickspoonwwwdotcom: it sounds very much like you've installed the server version, meaning no GUI.02:00
Janchi@ghost. How random is random? When does it crash?02:01
zmoif anyone knows it off head02:01
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wwwdotcomCode, CDBurnerSP Pro 3 is free02:01
nickspoonjust to be sure, type startx02:01
Code-Ethanks02:01
shylockcould anyone point me to what has to be done to view movies on my tv from ubuntu? i have tried checking the forums but dont understand very much02:01
ghostJanchi: suddenly it reboots, like "hard reset"02:01
wwwdotcomnickspoon, hmm, so what can I do then?02:01
Samuli^QT-apps really look great on gnome.02:01
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Hoxzershylock: get mythtv02:01
Samuli^too bad it doesn't work the other way around.02:01
Code-Ewwwdotcom: you mean CDburnerXP?02:01
yaluzmo: apt-get install package --print-uris --dry-run --reinstall02:02
JanchiGhost, when did it start and what did you do just before that02:02
utnubuhi, trying to upgrade 6.06 ubuntu (with kubuntu retrofitted), I get "Could not calculate the upgrade". /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log says Can't mark 'kubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.)02:02
wwwdotcomCode, yes02:02
avr_freakNothing02:02
Code-Ethanks02:02
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utnubuanything i can do to further diagnose / fix this02:02
wwwdotcomit says Pro 3 on my icon text02:02
zmoyalu - yeah, that's a way, thanks, though I know there's a better way to get it02:02
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shylockHoxzer: will i still have to hack around in Xorg.conf with MythTV=02:02
ghostJanchi: i just installed ubuntu, then i wanted to transfer files from windows machine to ubuntu02:02
Code-Ewwwdotcom: this is windows software02:02
zmoyalu - apt-cache policy is that way :)02:02
zmothanks all02:02
zmo+02:02
ghostand then *bang*-crash02:02
wwwdotcomCode, yes it is02:02
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nickspoonwwwdotcom: run startx, and if that doesn't work, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop.02:03
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JanchiGhost, any files larger than 4 Gb?02:03
Code-EBut I need one for linux ubuntu02:03
ghostJanchi: don't think so02:03
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ghostJanchi: it does also crash when doing nothing02:03
furestaHi all, just a quick question, does anybody have dapper running on an ASROCK 939NF4G SATA2 mobo? Any issues? Should be my next buy...02:04
wwwdotcomnick, had to do the second, and now the screen is flying with text lol02:04
nickspoongood.02:04
variantCode-E: cdrecord is ideal02:04
JanchiGhost, I would suggest to to take the easy road this time: complete reinstall. Maybe something did not go well. It happens02:04
nickspoonwwwdotcom: follow the instructions :)02:04
wwwdotcomCode, you can burn as an image file, it doesn't matter the platform02:04
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JanchiGhost, it only takes 30 minutes.02:04
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variantCode-E: cdrecord /dev/cdrom filename.iso02:04
WarboHello, I want to make a Wiki on my freewebs.com site. Is that possible, and where would be a good place to start researching?02:04
ghostJanchi: reinstall everything?02:04
Code-Ethanks02:04
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ghosthmm02:04
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nickspoonCode-E: nautilus has an ISO burner built in.02:05
ghostisn't there a beter way02:05
JanchiWarbo, try the wiki site. Tons of software02:05
wwwdotcomnickspoon, now it is asking me to insert a disk02:05
variantCode-E: if you want a large program to do it then k3b is excellent, much better than the likes of nero02:05
wwwdotcomit failed and then aborted02:05
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Code-Eok02:05
Code-Ewell i gotta go02:05
Code-Ebai02:05
JanchiGhost, since it is a fresh install that would be the easy way, yes. You can try to copy the files later on again.02:05
avr_freaki will try the desktop edition .... IOf tey didnt work ?02:05
nickspoonwwwdotcom: put in the Ubuntu CD.02:05
johan1can anyone tell me what decoders need to be loaded for totem to worl PLZ????02:05
nickspoonthen run that command again.02:06
wwwdotcomnick, the same alternate one?02:06
nickspoonyep.02:06
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utnubusigh, guess i can't upgrade to eft then02:06
Overanduh02:06
Overandeft isn't 'done' yet02:06
utnubui know02:06
JanchiGhost, I had some problems with other installs before. A clean reinstall fixed that02:06
wwwdotcomok, it's continuing02:07
brush01ukGreetings Everyone, have a Good Weekend, Barry02:07
utnubui'll give it another go when it's final02:07
utnubuotherwise it's back to windows02:07
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johan1Hi all! Can anyone help me with TOTEM and decoders?02:07
brush01ukas a newbie.just taking notes02:07
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zmore02:07
nickspoonjohan1: what do you want to know?02:08
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zmoactually, I'm trying to install Xgl/compiz on a friend's computer as I did on mine02:08
johan1totem wont work - says I may need to load decoders - where from and what are they called?02:08
brush01ukJohan1, have you tryed Easyubuntu ?02:08
nickspoonjohan1: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs02:08
johan1thanks heaps!!!!02:09
zmobut there's a weird issue: I can't find from what sources I got compiz-manager, cgwd and other packages...02:09
nickspoon!multimedia02:09
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications02:09
zmoI'm pretty sure I downloaded them from the compiz.net source02:09
brush01ukits a great program,will setup your codecs02:09
nickspoonzmo: ubuntu's compiz repository is a bit weird at the moment.02:09
zmoanyone knows anything about that, or could point me in the right direction ?02:09
cpk2will i cause problems for myself if I set a ntfs partition to /home until I can format it as ext3 after the install from the live cd?02:10
Samuli^I don't think zmo is using the repository.02:10
brush01ukin each area,   just tick three at a time02:10
zmonickspoon - oh, ok... and do you know when it will be ok, or well shall I refer to in order to know when it's ok, and what to do ?02:10
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nickspoonzom: the standard repositories + multiverse contain compiz, compiz-gnome/kde and xserver-xgl, which is all you need.02:10
Samuli^zmo, are you pulling the source from cvs and compiling yourself or what?02:10
ghostfor enabling extra repos: do i only have to enable the "non-free" on the first, official ubuntu 6.06 LTS or also on the community one?02:10
zmoSamuli^ - lol, I'm not, Ionly installed packages02:10
nickspoonghost: both.02:11
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Samuli^nickspoon, but they are hopelessly out of date.02:11
zmoI followed a pretty simple howto, and it was done in matter of minutes02:11
ghostnickspoon: it says something with "duplicated"02:11
nickspoonSamuli^: works fine here.02:11
zmobut for everybody else, it seems a lot of trouble:p02:11
nickspoonghost: don't then ;)02:11
zmo!compiz02:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:11
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Samuli^nickspoon, sure it does, but configuring for example is much better done with the newer packages and compiz manager + you can change your window-decorations etc.02:12
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Ti_Uhlhello02:12
zmohm... gonna check #ubuntu-xgl :)02:12
Ti_Uhlis there a different channel for ubuntu server ?02:12
Ti_Uhlor can i get help here ?02:12
ghostnickspoon: so where? community or official?02:12
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nickspoonofficial.02:13
ghostand also for the source?02:13
tapashmm, if i want to deliver signals across thread boundaries, will this work if the thread is not a QThread, too?02:13
tapasqueued events that is02:13
brush01ukhi, Ti_Uh102:13
tapasah well, i can just use a QThread as well i suppose02:14
zyclopI have 2 NICs in my PC and whenever eth0 (lan) is pinged it goes "arp who has x tell y" on eth1 (internet) => no echo reply. what is happening and what can i do against that?02:14
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furestaNo one using an ASROCK mobo?02:14
tapasbut i have a phread used already, so i'd like to save some work :)02:15
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Ti_Uhli'm trying to install raid1 with soft Raid, i'm using 2 physical drives, wich are identical, but when the software raid is set up and i want to create a partition, the remaining space is marked as unavailable, wich means i can't create more then one partition ?02:15
CzechHi02:15
tapasalso can the signal and slot live in the same class? and even the same object02:15
Samuli^furesta, it's not so much whose motherboard it is, but rather what chipset it has nforce4, uli m1967 etc.02:15
tapasoops02:15
tapaswrong channel02:15
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ghostwww.google.ch02:15
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furestaSamuli, it's an ASROCK 939NF4G SATA2.02:16
ForthHi02:16
Samuli^furesta, so that'd be nforce4 judging from the name.02:16
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zyclopanyone in here got experiences with using 2 network cards in one box?02:17
Ti_Uhlis't it possible to create more then 1 partition with software raid1 ?02:17
furestaSamuli, you're right, with integrated nvidia graphics controller, I'm looking for someone who already uses it with dapper02:17
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Samuli^zyclop, I have two.02:18
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Forthanyone using freemind on ppc ?02:18
shriphanihmm downloading lfs now02:18
frogzoozyclop: you using a firewall/iptables ?02:18
shriphanimaybe i can create my own linux02:18
zyclopSamuli^: nope02:18
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zyclopSamuli^: whoops, i meant frogzoo02:19
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zyclopfrogzoo: the answer to your question is: no, i do not use a firewall nor do i use iptables02:19
frogzoozyclop: the mac addies correct in /etc/iftab ?02:20
Samuli^zyclop, so what's your problem?02:20
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zyclopfrogzoo: wich question are you answering to?02:20
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Samuli^zyclop, so what you want is to share the internet connection?02:21
zyclopSamuli^: yes, it already worked once or twice and then it didn't02:21
Samuli^zyclop, by far the easiest way is to use iptables/firestarter.02:22
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zyclopSamuli^: routing works without problem, it's just that eth0 doesn't respond to ping02:23
zyclopSamuli^: or any other packets02:24
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frogzoozyclop: you can see its mac from ifconfig ? also, check /etc/iftab02:24
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Samuli^zyclop, are you sure you have set the ports, allowed ip-addresses etc. right?02:25
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zyclopfrogzoo: the mac addresses are correct, as is /etc/iftab02:26
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Ti_Uhli'm trying to install raid1 with soft Raid, i'm using 2 physical drives, wich are identical, but when the software raid is set up and i want to create a partition, the remaining space is marked as unavailable, wich means i can't create more then one partition ?02:26
Ti_Uhlanyone ?02:26
zyclopSamuli^: the packets reach their destination but eth0 asks for the box that pinged it via eth102:27
frogzoozyclop: the nics are wired to separate hubs ?02:27
frogzoozyclop: the nics are allocated ips in separate subnets ?02:27
zyclopfrogzoo: yes, eth1 is wired to the internet and eth0 to the LAN02:28
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frogzoozyclop: you checked 'route -n' is sensible ?02:28
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zyclopfrogzoo: wait, that might be it: eth1 is 192.168.0.1 and eth0 is 192.168.0.302:29
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frogzoozyclop: that will give you a real mess02:29
_Rappy_synaptic says I have php4.4 installed, but when I type i.e. php -v in the console, it says "no such command"02:29
zyclopfrogzoo: thats what i figured out by now02:29
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XiXaQ_Rappy_, perhaps you only have apache module installed and not php itself?02:30
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TeePOGhi hi02:30
zyclopfrogzoo: so, are there any dangers in deleting the entry for eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces ?02:31
frogzoozyclop: only that eth1 won't work anymore - just give eth1 a different subnet02:31
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_Rappy_XiXaQ : I have the package named only php4 and php4-common. I would think those are the right ones, no? unless i ned the cli too?02:32
zyclopfrogzoo: wich subnet is safe? or can i just enter a random number?02:32
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frogzoozyclop: anything in 192.168.x.0   - just use different x's with a 255.255.255.0 netmask02:33
tiedeHello. I have a set of games (The xmpuzzles package to be exact) and although the appear in the debian menu entry, they won't open unless i type them in a terminal. How do I go about making them behave correctly?02:33
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TeePOGtell me guys, why would a user not be able to launch an app from the command line? it works from my login, but when I su to the new account, it says "Xlib: Connection to :0:0 refused by server"02:34
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zyclopfrogzoo: well, thanks a bunch, you brought a little ray of happiness into my dull life02:34
POVaddctzyclop: you want to learn about routing and subnetting, you want to learn about reserved ip address ranges for private networks02:34
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VizackHello.02:34
frogzoozyclop: enjoy02:34
tiedeTeePOG,  is it a GUI app.?02:35
zyclopPOVaddct: already done, but thanks02:35
POVaddctzyclop: okay02:35
frogzooPOVaddct: mostly people just want it to work ;)02:35
TeePOGyes tiede, it's VMware Player... i set the permissions to 777, so it's not that02:35
Samuli^TeePOG, it's the su you're using.02:35
VizackUbuntu 6.06 installer hangs to keyboard selection, what could be the problem?02:35
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TeePOGohhh Samuli^, so if i login to the terminal directly, it should work?02:36
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POVaddctfrogzoo: yeah, i know. but if people only given recipes and don't know the basics behind that, the will ask again and again...02:36
boneshello02:36
VizackNot totally, I can cancel it and start again, but allways the same thing.02:36
bonesim having trouble with xgl/nvidia drivers02:36
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Samuli^TeePOG, if you login to terminal you don't have X running, so no. :)02:36
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tiedeI was not touching on permissions just yet, TeePOG. I was rather thinking along the lines of has X been started???02:36
bonesi installed nvidia drivers from the site02:36
frogzooPOVaddct: fair point02:36
TeePOGi mean, Samuli^, that if I login to that user's desktop and open a console there, it should work?02:37
Samuli^TeePOG, but use sudo instead or there's options for su to allow X-applications to start too, I think. 'man su'02:37
bonescan someone help  me with my nvidia xgl problem?02:37
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TeePOGtiede: it is... i'm in ti right now02:37
Samuli^TeePOG, yeah. If it doesn't need root-priviledges that is.02:37
TeePOGno Samuli^, strictly userland02:37
Samuli^it should work.02:38
bonesanyone know how to remove the nvidia website driver?02:38
froudDoes d-i on Ubuntu work with kickstart files created using system-config-kickstart ?02:38
TeePOGwell, will brb, trying that02:38
Vizack"ubiquity: Watching for question patterns ^kbd-chooser/method$, ^console-keymaps.*/keymap$, ERROR" ...in installer/syslog.02:38
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tiedeSo back to my question: I have a set of games (The xmpuzzles package to be exact) and although the appear in the debian menu entry, they won't open unless i type them in a terminal. How do I go about making them behave correctly? Any Ideas?02:41
bonesdoes xgl work with the nvidia website driver?02:41
zycloptiede: wich window manager do you use?02:41
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tiedeI use the basic Gnome+Nautilus+Metacity configuration packaged in Ubuntu02:42
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zycloptiede: well, i know next to nothing about gnome, but you should check the menu file for errors02:43
zycloptiede: or check the menu with whatever application you use to edit your menu02:44
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Samuli^tiede, that menu-editor would be ala carte02:44
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avr_freakdefault username / Pasword for Ubuntu - Server ?????02:45
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zycloptiede: well, check out the xmpuzzles entry02:46
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tiedeThey only appears in the debian menu, so I *know* they do not conform to the standard ubuntu .desktop system zyclop. I will however see if Alacarte can shed some light on it Samuli^02:46
tiedeI wanted to keep the games, zyclop so my 8-yr-old cousin can just click to play them, w/o havig to go to a terminal and type them in02:47
avr_freakdefault username / Pasword for Ubuntu - Server ?????02:48
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Samuli^tiede, it would be as simple as making a menu entry for the game and make it launch whatever the game's name is.02:48
zycloptiede: how about a desktop icon?02:49
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bonesmy xserver witi xgl says it cant find libglx.so02:49
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Samuli^tiede, but anyways, check the debian-menu menu-entry's to see what's wrong with them.02:49
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tiedewe are talking more than 20 games, that is way too much for my desktop ;)02:49
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zycloptiede: yeah, check the menu-entry02:50
TeePOGthanks tiede and Samuli^, i got it working02:50
elias_how is dapper with ntfs?02:50
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tiedeI checked the menu entries in Alacarte Samuli^, and nothing seems wrong.... I even ticked the 'launch in a terminal' box to test one of them but it does nothing...02:51
XiXaQelias_, Linux isn't good with ntfs. It's possible to read from it, but not recommended.02:51
Samuli^elias_, you can read from ntfs just fine.02:51
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TheMafiadoes crossover office make itunes 7 work?02:51
TheMafiaI can't seem to get itunes working with my ipod and vmware server02:51
Samuli^XiXaQ, reading is unharmful. Writing is what's bad for you :)02:51
AmaranthTheMafia: doubtful02:51
AmaranthiTunes 7 just came ou02:52
Amarantherr, out02:52
JanchiElias, read from NTFS is fine, but writing sucks02:52
elias_Need to write to NTFS. How about ntfs3g or how this project was called that promised full NTFS support pretty soon.02:52
Amaranth!ntfs02:52
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:52
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Amaranth!fuse02:52
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:52
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Samuli^elias_, I'm using it with no problems, but, still.. :)02:52
zycloptiede: what exactly is the command for the entry?02:52
TheMafiaAmaranth, ok, how disapopointing.02:52
Samuli^!ntfs-3g02:52
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171002:52
XiXaQelias_, it's possible to write to ntfs, but do you really need ntfs, or could you maybe use vfat instead?02:52
Samuli^that is what I'd recommend.02:52
tiede/usr/games/xmtriangle is one of em', for example zyclop02:53
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peace-keeperis there a place where i can download compiled kernels?02:54
zycloptiede: does that entry work if you run it on the terminal?02:54
Samuli^peace-keeper, the repositories? :)02:54
peace-keeperhum02:54
Kamping_KaiserXiXaQ, fat is a horrible FS though :(02:54
Samuli^really annoying.02:55
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Samuli^breaks easily, fragments, doesn't support files over 4GB..02:55
XiXaQKamping_Kaiser, ntfs is a horrible fs for any GNU/Linux system. VFat is more suited when you absolutely have to share a partition between win32 and GNU/Linux02:55
tiedeYes it work from the terminal zyclop . It just won't work from the menu...02:55
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TheMafiais there anything that handles podcasts well and sync's with the ipod?02:55
TheMafiaamarok continues to freeze on me02:56
Kamping_KaiserXiXaQ, i cant speak from experiance here, so i'm pulling out of this convo now :)02:56
zycloptiede: the exact entry copied directly into the terminal?02:56
elias_what is the max partition size for vfat?02:56
tiedeyup02:56
AmaranthTheMafia: You probably have to upgrade to edgy to get support for your iPod if you've every used it with iTunes 7 and/or just bought it in the last two weeks.02:56
Samuli^elias_, something like 2,5TB or so.02:56
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Amaranthext2 works on linux and windows02:57
zycloptiede: hmmm02:57
cpk2what runlevel starts kdm?02:57
AmaranthThere is no journaled filesystem that works on more than one OS though, sadle.02:57
Amarantherr, sadly02:57
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XiXaQAmaranth, windows reads and writes to ext2 fs? I thought you had to install additional software for that..02:58
AmaranthXiXaQ: You do.02:58
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AmaranthXiXaQ: http://www.fs-driver.org/02:58
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shylockcan anyone please tell me what command starts the graphic mysql admin?02:59
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tiedezyclop, I copied and pasted it to the terminal just to make sure a i wasn't accidently fixing it while typing. It runs from the terminal, but won't open in the menu. The same game. quite fishy.02:59
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zycloptiede: my last suggestion would be to check the "run in terminal" box03:00
netGhi i'm new to Gnome , I used KDE in the past...  Is there something like xkill tool (ctrl-alt-esc) in gnome?03:00
cpk2just installed from the live cd, i am stuck at a run level prompt, doesnt seem to be picking up my usb keyboard03:00
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tiedeI already did so to no avail... :)03:00
EkUmBadoes anyone know a program like bid o magic for ubuntu?03:00
tiedenetG, use killall <program>03:01
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netGtiede: I know this ;-)03:01
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JimyLinux11SUGGESTION...03:02
zycloptiede: does it work when invoked with a desktop icon?03:02
JimyLinux11Korean Government make the Official Linux Standard..."Buyo"03:02
TheMafiaAmaranth, I thought dapper was the latest?  Can I upgrade dapper to edgy or do I have to do a reinstall?03:02
JimyLinux11And, Buyo standard will be china and japan linux standard.(Buyo will be? no. Buyo will be compatible...or support...)03:02
netGBut is not what I'm asking for..03:02
JimyLinux11So, I want that ubuntu must support Buyo standard.(by apt-get, rpm, etc upgrade method)03:02
AmaranthTheMafia: edgy is beta03:02
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tiedeYou can also place a killall applet on the gnome-bar to speed up the process. It is found in the add panel items menu, netG03:02
TheMafiaI bought it in the last two weeks but never used it with itunes 7, only tried, itunes doesn't work right in an emulator03:02
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tiedeLet me tr it, zyclop03:02
EkUmBadoes anyone know a program like bid o magic for ubuntu?03:03
tucozI can never remember how to get usplash back to ubuntu after a kubuntu install. And unfortunatley the link ubuto gave me is empty03:03
tucoz*ubotu03:03
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stravhey there... quick question: there are some packages I'm looking for that I can only find in the amd64 version... Any particular reason I should not install this on intel? (beside it's written amd64?)03:03
netGtiede: thanks this is what I'm looking for!!!03:03
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AmaranthTheMafia: sudo "update-manager -c -d"03:03
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AmaranthTheMafia: That should offer to upgrade you to edgy03:03
Amaranthoh, no it won't03:04
AmaranthTheMafia: gksu "update-manager -c -d"03:05
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TheMafiaAmaranth, how beta is edgy?  I am a redhat guy that has recently switched to ubuntu, is edgy real unstable03:05
AmaranthTheMafia: Remember, before you do that, edgy is still beta and about a month away from release.03:05
tiedezyclop, It won't open from a desktop icon neither... hmm03:05
AmaranthTheMafia: Works great for me, not so great for others.03:05
tiedeyou're welcome netG!03:05
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t9k232hello03:06
t9k232I'm installing Ubuntu on a Windows virtual machine03:06
Amaranthtucoz: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so03:06
zycloptiede: does it work with some other window manager?03:06
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t9k232on the virtual machine, there is a fat32 partition with Windows already installed03:06
TheMafiaAmaranth, when it is officially released, will the beta version upgrade?03:07
t9k232but, when I try to use the partitioning software included in the "install"03:07
LjLt9k232: sorry if i cut you off before you even start explaining, but why don't you just use a fresh virtual machine?03:07
AmaranthTheMafia: yep03:07
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netGcolor test03:07
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tiedeooh, I'd have to install another one to test it zyclop... what do you think? Sawfish?03:07
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t9k232LjL: it's to try the GRUB03:07
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LjLt9k232: ok03:08
AmaranthTheMafia: It'll actually offer to update once a day from today on so you'll get to 6.10 final a bit at a time without one massive upgrade later.03:08
t9k232when trying to partition the hard disk03:08
t9k232I have the following problem03:08
t9k232I can't see Used and Unused space03:08
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t9k232so i can't resize the partition03:09
t9k232(FAT32)03:09
LjLt9k232: is that VMWare?03:09
tucozAmaranth, i think i had to run a second command after that. to merge it to the kernel image (i think).03:09
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t9k232yes, it is03:09
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zycloptiede: how far would you go for that game?03:09
t9k232Unable to read the content of this filesystem. because of this some operations may be unavailable.03:10
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t9k232etc etc03:10
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josh_hey, quick question... who in here know alot about ssh and how can i get a message to users trying to log in03:10
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LjLt9k232: bah... that feels like a problem with the way vmware simulates HDs to me, to be honest03:10
netG_is there a good looking IRC client for Gnome? I used Konversation in KDE03:10
LjLt9k232: though i don't seem to find any relevant reference to the problem on google03:11
tiedeit's a bunch of them, not just one. And they're for my little cousin... But I think I'll just uninstall them until better solution is found zyclop03:11
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josh_netG_: Xchat03:11
t9k232maybe the problem is due to the snapshot I created03:11
t9k232so there is a virtual hard disk part of a virtual hard disk03:11
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t9k232maybe gparted doesn't understand that correctly03:12
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LjLt9k232: uhm, you've lost me on that. i don't know what's that nexted HD thing in vmware03:12
zycloptiede: wait, maybe they are designed for xfce03:12
[GuS] if someone wants to test Beryl, here the packages for Edgy: http://rapidshare.de/files/34864047/Beryl_28-09-2006.tar.gz.html03:13
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zycloptiede: that would explain quite a bit03:13
t9k232LjL: no problem ;) thanks very much for your support03:13
t9k232I'll try to do another test03:13
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tiedexmpuzzlesgamescollection of puzzles for X (Motif version)  No xfce mentionned... It is listed in thme MOTU wiki page though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/NoDesktopFile03:14
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erkintekhi I have a problem on my labtop03:15
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zycloptiede: well, we reached the end of my knowledge. I have no idea what is going on03:15
thedashumm, I got an error when I booted this morning: Internal Error: Failed to intitalize HAL!03:15
LjLnetG: we hear you03:15
thedashI think that can't be good03:15
erkintekWhen I connect second monitor, My sys gots so slow03:15
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netGcolor test ;-)03:15
erkintekIt doesnt matter wheather I'm on X or not03:15
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tiedeIt's ok. Thanks for trying so hard though... Do you think this is bug-worthy?03:16
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zycloperkintek: i just want to know: how did you connect the second monitor?03:16
damnedstill nobody who got troubles wight edgy+nvidia-glx?03:16
boneshow come direct render isnt on?03:16
zycloptiede: well, the developers might want to know about this03:16
LjL!edgy03:16
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule03:16
erkintekzyclop: from back, connector, its crt, 915G03:16
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tiedewill file a bug in malone. Thanks so much zyclop03:17
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plbso it's official debian is renaming firefox...wonder if ubuntu will get the same03:18
erkintekIt's a kernel issue,03:18
plbdo*03:18
LjLplb: hope so (as you know)03:18
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plbhehe03:18
zyclopplb: what are they renaming it to?03:19
LjLplb: what's it renaming it to?03:19
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zyclopheh03:19
erkintekI closed kdm :) but slowind down and high cpu03:19
plbdunno they didn't say yet03:19
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plbhttp://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=1600903:19
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hetahi03:20
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thedashis there any way to actively check a hard drive to see if it returns any errors anywhere on it?03:20
hetaany1 knows if there is a how to for installing nvidia drivers and xgl on edgy? tried but didn't find any on forums/wiki03:20
thedashlike chkdsk or something?03:20
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LjLthedash: fsck03:22
josh_how do i display a message to users before they log in to the computer? (a Disclimer in otherwords)03:22
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LjLjosh_: /etc/motd, for text logins03:22
thedashLjL:: I was looking more for an entire disk, not just a filesystem03:22
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josh_im looking for one BEFORE they log in... motd is after a sucessful login03:22
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LjLthedash: well, chkdsk check a partition AFAIK... anyway, if you want to check an *entire* disk, then i assume it means you want to check for *physical* defects, like bad blocks or worse.  i don't know of any bad-sector-checking packages on Linux, but you might want to try smartmontools (run "smartctl -A /dev/hdwhatever") to see what your HD's health is like03:23
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jribjosh_: for ssh or for all logins?03:23
CreativePonythrough what means does one get dapper to upgrade to whatever the latest release beta is?03:23
LjLthedash: that's -- of course -- a S.M.A.R.T. data monitoring program03:24
josh_jrib, ssh03:24
josh_i have set a banner but that doesn't work03:24
jribjosh_: you can set a Banner in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I have mine set to:  Banner /etc/issue.net03:24
jriboh...03:24
josh_lol03:24
jribjosh_: you restarted ssh?03:25
josh_yeah been there.... doesn't show before "login:"03:25
josh_that i haven't done yet....03:25
josh_and i cant because im not at home03:25
josh_im at work on my computer right now lol03:25
josh_well i suppose i could just init 6 it...03:25
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josh_that way i know its coming back up03:25
josh_good point03:25
josh_brb03:25
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CreativePonyi'm trying to run gksu "update-manager -c -d".. and its offering the upgrade to 6.10, and downloads two files, then disapears, seeming to just, silently crash03:28
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Zaggynlwtb: a safe way to write to NTFS :(03:30
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lupine_85the safe way to write to NTFS is to use Windows in VMWare to do it03:31
Zaggynl!03:31
ZaggynlI have vmware running winxp as we speak03:31
Zaggynlhowto?!03:31
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haroldowhat was the off topic channel?03:31
haroldoname03:31
Zaggynl!offtopic03:31
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:31
Dr_willisntfs-3g i hear works decently well.. (never tried it)03:32
haroldo!offtopic03:32
lupine_85you need to give it your NTFS partition as a drive03:32
Zaggynlhrm03:32
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Zaggynl'map network drive' ?03:32
lupine_85ntfs-3g works quite well now, apparently, but it's still got a possibility of eating your data and sleeping with your cat03:32
haroldothx03:32
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Dr_willislupine_85,  they fixed that "sterilizing your dog bug" eh?03:33
Samuli^ntfs-3g works fine for me. At least has worked for 2 weeks now.03:33
Dr_willis:)03:33
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paolobHi guys! My ubuntu pc has 2 nics: the first is always eth0, but the 2nd is sometimes eth1 and other times eth2. How can I fix that? thank you!03:33
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lupine_85DR_willis - yes, it doesn't do that any more03:33
lupine_85which isn't much comfort to the cat03:33
brian98offtopic: :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm03:33
Zaggynllupine_85, would you know how to map the drive?03:33
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Zaggynllol, clinton supporting ubuntu, cool03:34
lupine_85Zaggynl: you need to edit the .vmdk (?) file03:34
lupine_85plenty of how-tos about03:34
Zaggynlah okay, thanks03:35
lupine_85just make sure the ntfs drive is umounted, and use /dev/<?>03:35
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Zaggynlhm so I can't keep it mounted in linux, sounds obvious yes03:36
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cpk2what would be the best way to format my sata drive and make it /home?03:37
HetaUmaI have installed ubuntu. Is there any meta file that I should sellect in order to downlad all kde packages that come with kubuntu?03:37
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jribHetaUma: kubuntu-desktop03:38
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mipstieni have some sort of bad file or files on my computer and i can't locate it, is there a way to locate it?03:39
HetaUmajrib ty03:39
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tiedepaolob, do you have more than two network cards. Check in your lspci...03:42
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daurn!screenshot03:44
ubotuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp. Screenshots can be posted on the !pastebin03:44
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paolobtiede, no, they are 203:45
DistroManInstalled ubuntu server. It's running fine.  Mail server running fine.  Cups wants me to give a name and password and mine don't work.  Is there a default admin password for cups on ubuntu server?03:45
LjLubotu no, Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp.03:45
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mipstienis there a bash command to reinstall all your current apt programs?03:45
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DeadSouLHow can I make Dell Latitude D500's Fn button work in Kubuntu?03:46
tiedethat is fishy. Do you have more than one manager for them. Check your /etc/network/interfaces file for messy entries.03:46
main2can i use AIGLX on ubuntu(dapper) ? :-))03:46
LjLmipstien: i don't think so, but "dpkg --get-selections | grep install" will list all the installed packages... should be possible to write a short script to reinstall them all03:46
main2(btw, i got a NVIDIA card)03:46
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LjLmipstien: perhaps    dpkg --get-selections | grep install | awk ' { print "apt-get --reinstall install " $1 } ' | sh           <--- use at own risk03:47
main2can i use AIGLX on ubuntu(dapper) ? :-))03:47
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cpk2I am formatting a drive right now and want to make it /home after I format it, but am not sure on how to do this?03:47
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SkrotHi. I've got a debian box setup with 1 disc running normal ext3+swap, and 4 discs running in a LVM setup. I want to install ubuntu on that box. Do I need to take a backup of the LVM configuration or anything of that sort, or will the (k)ubuntu installer detect it and mount it?03:48
mipstienhmm, that sorta worked, it only went through about 10 things though03:48
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LjLmipstien: and then?03:48
tiedethat is fishy. Do you have more than one manager for them. Check your /etc/network/interfaces file for messy entries paolob03:49
mipstiennothing just reinstalled about 10 things, but it didn't crash like synaptic did03:49
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LjLmipstien: hm, i'm not too surprised that it doesn't work smoothly, but i find the *way* it's not working sort of puzzling03:50
mipstienlyl: where can i get a completely clean boot script?03:50
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LjLmipstien: "boot script" in what sense?03:50
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mipstienljl: basically the script that loads everything during the bootup. one that mounts your drives and checks them. i'd like the one from a base install03:51
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LjLmipstien: there's not even close to a single script doing that... it's all the scripts in /etc/init.d, basically03:51
LjLmipstien: don't know where you'd find them03:51
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mipstienljl: im having trouble on bootup with e2fsck failing03:52
saquib>> HELP: I'm constantly getting this eror, even when i update my apt-get! Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main libnspr4 2:1.firefox1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 "404 not found"03:52
LjLmipstien: failing like what?03:52
frogzoomipstien: dpkg -S /etc/init.d03:52
daurnuh03:52
daurnhow do you deselect stuff in the gimp?03:52
mipstienlyl: it says there is something wrong with my disk, but if i check it there is nothing. but i did end up reinstalling and was fine after that. but i had backed up my old system information so i could just copy it over to this new install and it borught the problem with it03:53
frogzoodaurn: ctrl left mouse ?03:53
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infideli need help setting up telnet03:54
saquib>> HELP: I'm constantly getting this eror, even when i update my apt-get! Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main libnspr4 2:1.firefox1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 "404 not found" CAN ANYONE PLEASE GIVE ME A SERVER ADDRESS WHERE I CAN GET THE LATEST KERNELS FROM? ***03:54
LjLmipstien: well, that's not the sort of backup you're supposed to do... calls for trouble.. usually you only backup your /home, and possibly /usr/local and /etc (but the latter you don't restore blindly, but only keep for checking purposes)03:54
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LjL!caps03:54
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:54
daurnfrogzoo: nope03:55
erUSUL!repeat > saquib03:55
LjLsaquib, i've accessed security about 10 minutes ago and it worked. perhaps you should just wait a little while if the server is down, or your routing is03:55
mipstienlyl: does that reinstall your apt programs?03:55
jisatsuI've got some files on an NTFS partition which I've mounted into Ubuntu. Now, most of the files show up, but the files and folders with Japanese names don't show up at all, any idea how I can fix that?03:55
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LjLmipstien: nope. for that, you should do "dpkg --get-selections >some-file-of-your-choice", and then to restore, "dpkg --set-selections <that-very-file"03:56
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LjLmipstien: anyway, just keep this in mind for the future, but i guess it's not solving your problem right now03:56
saquibLjL> i cant go into that repository since 2 days.. i dont understand, what should I do? any other way?03:56
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LjLsaquib: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin03:56
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mipstienljl: i don't understand how the dpkg command would work for me to reget or reinstall my old apt program's?03:57
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saquibLjL> i tired many combinations from source-o-matic as well.... my other repos work, but this creates prob! By the way, whats the PASTEBIN? If i just paste here, it would be flooded!03:58
LjLmipstien: well, "dpkg --get-selections" dumps a list of all packages you have installed.  "dpkg --set-selections" expects a similar list, and it install whatever doesn't match03:58
LjL!paste03:58
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:58
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pkingis there a textbased webbrowser for ubuntu03:58
LjLmipstien: for what it's worth, "fsck" seems to be called from /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh and /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh -- if you want, i can give you my ones03:58
LjLpking: links203:59
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mipstienactually, i don't believe fsck is a problem03:59
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LjLmipstien: me neither, to be honest03:59
CSWookieHas anyone here set up gmail as a smarthost with exim?03:59
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CSWookieI've found a couple sites, but they aren't working for me.03:59
saquibLjL > I have pasted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25161/plain/04:00
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LjLmipstien: are you sure your drive is really OK? do you have smartmontools installed?04:00
mipstienljl: if i make a complete reinstall everything is fine04:00
mipstienljl: i can check it with anything and there is no problem, as soon as i reinsert the .tar file with my old stuff it errors04:01
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LjLmipstien: that doesn't really mean much... if your drive is failing in some places, it might work silently as long as it's not too "crowded", but then start giving problems (such as when you restore a backup...)04:01
mipstieni can still boot but it says /dev/sda7 is already mounted. e2fsck can't check this disk, check manually04:01
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saquibLjL > I've seen the security repo's add doesnt change... others do (based on region). isnt there any other server except this one??04:02
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LjLmipstien: ah, uhm, perhaps that's a problem with your /etc/fstab...? try pastebinning it, though i'm not too familiar with fstab to be honest04:02
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mipstienljl: the cause of my problem happened with gparted didn't finish resizeing my ext3 partition the toher day04:02
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soundmaster80what is the irc for edgy eft?04:02
jrib!edgy04:02
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule04:02
soundmaster80thank you04:02
LjLsaquib: your security lines look OK to me... no, as far as i know security only has a central server and no mirrors.04:03
mipstienljl: how do you pastebin? so i don't flood04:03
LjLsaquib: what was the error you were getting again?04:03
LjL!paste04:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:03
saquibLjL > i cant find any reason, why connection is "failed" everytime i try to connect to this! What can I do??04:04
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LjLsaquib: do you have a DSL router?04:04
mipstienhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25162/04:04
LjLsaquib: people have encountered problems with apt-get and some routers before, because of broken domain name servers in the router04:04
shylockhi i have managed to get my tv behave as a second desktop but when i try to run a movie fullscreen it gets "zoomed in" eg it only shows like a fourth of the picture, anyone have a tip?04:05
saquibLjL > No, its ethernet connection from the modem... no router or anything as i know of04:05
LjLsaquib: what does your /etc/resolv.conf file list as a nameserver?04:05
mipstienljl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25162/04:06
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LjLmipstien: uh, why do you have the root partition commented out?04:06
saquibLjL > nameserver 10.0.0.50, 10.0.0.30, and 10.0.0.2004:06
NagrajSoftware index is broken04:06
NagrajIt is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.04:06
Nagrajany help04:07
mipstieni don't, /dev/sda8 isn't on my computer anymore04:07
mipstien/dev/sda7 is root04:07
LjLsaquib: uhm, that *sounds* like your modem is being a nameserver... try changing the first nameserver to 212.255.245.204:07
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LjLmipstien: well, /dev/sda7 is being listed as /media/sda7, not as root. that's surely a problem.04:07
saquibLjL > Working on it, just changing the firt one and trying again04:07
elias_I have 100% utilization when I am typing in evolution. Could be due to some non pristine dapper packages I installed. How can I revert back to all dapper packages?04:07
mipstienok its root now :)04:08
LjLmipstien: i'd also set its options to "defaults,errors=remount-ro", like they used to be in your previous root04:08
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LjLmipstien: check that your other listed partition look consistent with what you really have... and then i'd try a reboot04:09
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mipstienok well i guess its off to reboot then :)04:09
mipstienill be back and let yo uknow how things go04:09
LjLsaquib: oh sorry, my bad... the correct IP is 212.245.255.2, not 212.255.245.204:09
ShartHi! What WiFi PCI Card I must buy (<$30) to use it in Dapper?04:10
LjL!wifi04:10
saquibLjL > no probs, im editing again04:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:10
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Justy-hi04:11
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ShartLjL: I've read it, but I want Card 100% supported in Daper04:11
haroldohi my "other" menu isnt showing up and i cant select the tick box in the menu editor. does anyone know how to fix this?04:12
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ShartAlso, I need WPA-PSK...04:12
mipstienljl: i love you!04:12
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mipstienljl: thank you soooo much for your help!04:13
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LjLmipstien: ;-)04:13
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saquibLjL > Same problem, 404 not found problem. By the way, i can browse to this security.ubuntu.com ! All this worked for me before, i just dont get it.04:14
godfatherhi guys04:14
LjLShart: well, i wouldn't know honestly. and strangely there's little activity on the channel right now, so perhaps you might try asking again later...04:14
LjLsaquib: can you pastebin the whole apt-get output please?04:14
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godfatheris thereanyone who is able to install realplayer04:14
E-bolaAre there any alternatives to gaim?04:14
LjL!realplayer04:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:14
E-bolait keeps crashing on my install04:14
saquibLjL wait up... im doing it04:14
haroldoEbola: synaptic >> realplay04:15
LjLE-bola: well, there is kopete for KDE (works under Gnome too, if you don't mind mixing up environments). there's probably a ton others that i don't know about04:15
mipstiennow another problem, grub always chooses old information with booting up, and if i manually edit the grub.lst it fixes it until the next kernal gets updated or installed then it reconfigures itself back to the old numbers, what should i do?04:15
E-bolai just need something that can use msn messenger accounts04:15
LjLE-bola: perhaps amsn04:15
E-bolammm realplay is a multimedia player?04:16
LjLE-bola: yes04:16
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godfatheryes04:16
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E-bolaso what does that have to do with gaim?04:16
bretzel!edgy04:16
godfatherwith mplayer i have some problem04:16
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bretzel!schedule04:16
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:16
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LjLmipstien: i don't know. what i would do is try a "grep -R sda7 /*" to find where sda7 is mentioned, and try to find out where it should be changed to the new partition04:17
LjLit'll take a while, mind you04:17
godfathersynaptic says that it's impossible to install realplayer because it deends from xlibs and it's not installable04:17
LjLmipstien: perhaps even just "grep -R sda7 /etc/*" for a start04:17
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LjLE-bola: nothing.04:17
haroldoE-bola: wine04:18
LjLE-bola: i was replying to godfather, who asked about installing realplayer04:18
E-boladont understand why haroldo sugeste it then hehe04:18
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saquibLjL > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25163/plain/ (by the way, it seems some files might be getting downlaoded from there.. plz chk)04:18
daurnhow can i switch from ubuntu04:18
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LjLE-bola: oh. he probably just misaddressed his reply04:18
daurnto kubuntu?04:18
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godfatheranyone canhelpme04:18
haroldoE-bola: because i have real player and it works04:18
LjLdaurn: you can install the "kubuntu-desktop" package, at which point you'll have both Gnome and KDE available04:19
godfather?04:19
Horriblehello everyone04:19
mipstienljl: i don't understand what grep is, not that im afraid to use it but if i don't understand it then i can't really understand its output :)04:19
LjLharoldo: ... as an instant messenger?04:19
NogimicsAnyone know a decent screen capture prog please?04:19
Horriblei have a big big problem04:19
LjLmipstien: "man grep" ;-)04:19
haroldoLjL: ... no04:19
Horriblei tried to install my tv-tunner - it has bt878 chipset04:19
LjLmipstien: it searches for strings inside files04:19
Horriblebut .... it gives me this after installing the needed software04:19
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daurnLjL: i have.. but, how do i switch between them?04:19
LjLharoldo: well that's what E-bola was asking about. i think you wanted to tell that to godfather instead ;)04:19
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Horriblevideoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory04:19
LjLdaurn: when your login screen comes up, click on "Session" (or "Options") and choose KDE04:20
Horriblehow can I fix this ?04:20
haroldoLjL: good point04:20
daurnok04:20
daurncan you switch .. like... now?04:20
NogimicsAnyone know a decent screen capture prog please?04:20
jribNogimics: istanbul04:20
haroldogodfather: maybe i can help04:20
godfatherok04:20
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LjLdaurn: if it's all installed, yeah... just logout using the button at top right, and re-login04:21
haroldogodfather: do you have broadband connection?04:21
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godfatheryes04:21
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Justy-slm slm04:21
Horriblecan anyone help me ?!04:21
daurnLjL: i mean without logging out04:21
mipstienljl: this might hel pyou also, if i "sudo grub" then "find /boot/grub/stage1" outputs hd0,6 "root (hd0,6)" "setup (hd0)"  it doesn't change my grub.lst to the correct thing, which should be hd0,6 it changes it to the old partition hd0,7 which does not exist04:21
haroldogodfather: just update synaptic and upgrade all the packages then install real player again04:21
saquib<Nogimics> try Istanbul04:21
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LjLdaurn: well, no. you can spawn a new KDE session however, while keeping your current Gnome session open... i don't know how to do that in Gnome (since i'm using KDE), but it'd be called "Switch user" or something, probably in the System menu04:22
godfatherit needs 9 minutes about04:22
LjLdaurn: you can then switch between the two sessions using ctrl+alt+f7 and ctrl+alt+f9 or ctrl+alt+f804:22
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Nogimicsjrib, thanks04:22
daurnok...04:22
saquibLjL > Please chk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25163/plain/04:22
Horriblevideoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory04:23
LjLmipstien: well, pastebin your menu.lst04:23
Horriblehow can I fix this ?!04:23
haroldogodfather: i have xlibs-dev, xlibs-static-dev, xorg-common04:23
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Horribleit's about a tv-tunner with bt878 chipset04:23
godfatherok04:23
HorribleANYONE ?04:23
LjLsaquib: so it *is* downloading something (namely kdelibs4), just not the others... hm04:24
godfatherbut it teels mw that it needs xlibs04:24
daurnLjL: didn't work04:24
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daurnit won't let me use the same username04:24
godfatherbut thsi lib it's not installable04:24
LjLdaurn: well, then i can only tell you to log out.04:24
mipstienhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25164/04:24
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HorribleLjL: i have a problem : ideoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory04:24
Horrible - it's about a tv-tunner with bt878 chipset ... how can i fix that error ?04:24
saquibLjL > could those file really be getting disappeared? Besides, then why would they be in the List? i mean im updating the list of file available, why are they listed then??04:24
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LjLsaquib: they *could*, in case of a server glitch, but then you said it's been going on for two days.....04:25
HorribleLjL ????04:25
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haroldogodfather: what version of realplay?04:26
LjLHorrible: i don't have such a card, i have no idea04:26
Horriblegoddam it04:26
Horriblecan anyone else help me with this ?04:26
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saquibLjL > the latest kernek available being shown is something.26 .... i installd .25 long back, is the .26 the last one?04:26
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kannanhow do I install Linuxthreads?04:27
LjLmipstien: so - let me be sure i understand --- if you take that menu.lst that you pasted, and change every occurrence of "/dev/sda8" to "/dev/sda7", and every occurrence of "(hd0,7)" to "(hd0,6)",  it gets changed back?04:27
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mipstienljl: if a new kernel gets installed OR if i run grub and do the setup root thing04:28
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davinHi guys, how do I remove a folder using rm in a shell?04:28
LjLsaquib: no, the latest Dapper kernel is 2.6.15-27.4804:28
eraccHorrible, that is not a distribution specific question. Maybe the mythtv people could help you.04:28
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LjLsaquib: have you run an "apt-get update" recently?04:28
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LjLdavin: use "rmdir". works if the folder is empty.04:29
saquib<LjL> i dont have .27 listed...... dats weird. im refresring this list, still same. what should I do?04:29
LjLdavin: otherwise, you can use "rm" with its "recursive" option. type "man rm"04:29
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LjLsaquib: "sudo apt-get update" gives no errors, though?04:29
godfatherversion 1004:29
haroldogodfather: 10.???04:29
godfather10.004:30
eraccdavin, what LjL mentioned would be 'rm -rf <directory>'. Yes, you should still 'man rm'. :-)04:30
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mipstienljl: do you think that maybe i should try to delete grub and then install again?04:30
haroldogodfather 10.?.?.?.?04:30
LjLmipstien: no, i don't think so. meaning... it might even solve it, but i can't see why it would.04:31
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LjLmipstien: right now i'm trying to find out where hda2 (my own root partition) is mentioned in the system04:31
godfatheri'm sorry i don't know04:31
infideli need help setting up telnet04:31
haroldogodfather you should know if you have synaptic open04:31
godfatherbecause synaptic doesn't give me any specifiaction04:31
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saquibLjL > Please chk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25165/plain/04:31
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mipstienljl: there is obviously a configuration file somewhere that gparted made that is telling grub what to do/use04:31
godfatheriy's not open04:32
godfatheri can't install it04:32
gnomefreaksaquib: do you have the dapper-updates repo enabled?04:32
LjLsaquib: yes, that's saying it's giving no errors. i'm at a loss, honestly.04:32
haroldogodfather it should say latest version even if you cant install04:32
eraccHrm, being used to lilo I am going to have to learn all the parts for grub now. :-/04:32
godfatherok04:32
godfatherlet me repeat the operation04:32
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LjLmipstien: well yes and no... i'm not sure it would be gparted. myself, i switched from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hda2 some time ago, however i don't really remember everything i had to change04:32
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saquibgnomefreak > my sources.list:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25166/plain/04:33
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davinLjL: rm -R folder worked, thanks :-)04:34
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WorkAlDoes anyone have any experience running Ubuntu on HP DL or ML servers?04:35
LjLmipstien: this may sound stupid and it probably is, but what about changing /etc/fstab so that the sda7 entry is the first listed? (well, after /proc)04:35
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mipstienljl i can try it04:35
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saquib** I cnt beleive security repository has no mirror.... umm its weird.04:36
gnomefreakits there04:36
gnomefreaksaquib: try running apt-get update04:36
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LjLmipstien: you could also try a "grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/dev/sda7". note that this is only correct (well, hopefully) if your grub is in the MBR.04:36
godfatherharoldo04:37
godfather8.0.11 version04:37
doguihello04:37
mipstienljl it is04:37
LjLmipstien: i wouldn't mess with grub that way unless i was very convinced it was the only option, though04:37
haroldogodfather i think you need to update your repository04:37
doguihello betty04:37
godfatherok04:37
godfatherhow can i do this?04:37
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saquibgnomefreak> done dat too....! some files get downlaoded, some says not available.. they are still listed! anyway i could reset the whole thing, and start new?04:37
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marc_hello all04:38
LjLmipstien: whooops - don't even do that04:38
mipstieni didn't04:38
LjLmipstien: as the "directory" term should have hinted, it's expecting a directory, not a /dev/04:38
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E-bolaHow do i see what hardware device an eth1 is mapped to?04:38
haroldogodfather sudo apt-get update04:38
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LjLmipstien: so that would be "grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/" anyway  (but then the root-directory specification is redundant, since that's the default)04:38
godfatherok but now i have to reboot04:38
haroldogodfather why?04:39
godfatheri'll be here in 2 minutes04:39
hantuwhy reboot ;o04:39
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haroldodont reboot!04:39
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godfatherbecause i have installed all the updates04:39
hantuyou don't have to -_-04:39
wetduckhi folks!04:39
hantuthat's the whole point of linux!04:39
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godfatherand synaptic tells me it need toreboot04:39
mipstienljl: so should i try and run "grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/" or is it just a wasteful command?04:39
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haroldogodfather erm... what if you just log out and in again?04:40
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marc_Looking for help with fiding driver support for my asus P5AD2 Premium Wireless edition mother board.04:40
LjLmipstien: i would just try "grub-install /dev/sda", which should be the same thing. it *shouldn't* really do anything bad, if your grub is already in the MBR of sda... maybe it'll solve nothing, though04:40
haroldogodfather: i dont think you have to reboot04:40
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davinHey guys, im back. im trying to copy from '/home/davin/Documents/' to '/media/sdf1/backup/' using 'cp /home/davin/Documents/ /media/sdf1/backup' cp gives me the error 'omitting directory: /media/sdf1/backup/, anything I can do?04:41
godfatherok04:41
wetduckHow do I locate the files wich were on Desktop folder while I use oem user?04:41
erUSULdavin: cp -r04:41
mipstienljl: no that didn't fix it04:41
godfatheri give sudo apt-get update04:41
davinerUSUL: k hang on04:41
godfatherand i've just tried to install realplayer04:42
godfatherbut i gives me the same error message04:42
erUSULdavin: and 'man cp' some reading is always a good idea ;)04:42
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marc_Looking for help with fiding driver support for my asus P5AD2 Premium Wireless edition mother board.  I can't get my second hardrive to work.  I think its because my mother board has hardware raid04:42
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davinerUSUL: thanks :-), I have to remember to use -R for folders..04:43
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davinGonna install my new Ubuntu system now :D brb04:43
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erUSULmarc_: http://people.redhat.com/~heinzm/sw/dmraid/readme04:43
erUSUL!lvm04:43
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:43
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saquibLjL > Please have a look at this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25167/plain/   This might give you some clue!!04:46
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FERNANDISCOwenass04:46
FERNANDISCOalguien hala espaol?04:46
godfatherhere i am04:46
erUSUL!es04:46
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:46
marc_erUSUL, that will work with ubuntu?04:47
FERNANDISCOgracias04:47
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erUSULmarc_: i do not know, never tried... in the wiki ages maybe you find more information04:47
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erUSULpages*04:49
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LjLsaquib: well, it *is* indeed looking for files that aren't there04:49
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LjLsaquib: for instance, it's looking for a firefox-gnome-support_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1_i386.deb, while only version +1.5.0.7 is there (and an older 1.5.0.3)04:50
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LjLsaquib: i wonder why an apt-get update isn't fixing this though04:50
saquibLjL > Think i've typed apt-get update 100 times .... its not getting fixed04:50
LjLsaquib: do try an apt-get --fix-missing as it suggests... you never know04:50
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swanflmorning all, how do I create a mailing list to be used in kmail?04:51
wetduckHow do I go back to oem user?04:51
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sic_hi04:52
swanflhi sic04:52
wetduckbbl04:52
sic_y looks the network admin so differnt in ubuntu than in other distributions?04:52
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sic_don't know how to add a new connection in this version04:53
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saquibLjL > This is wat i got after apt-get update --fix-missing:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25171/04:53
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mipstienljl: if i uninstall grub through synaptic and then reinstall could that damage anything?04:54
erUSULsic_: in ubuntu is like in debian and debian and it's derivs are very popular... it is tru that is not like rh nor suse04:54
LjLmipstien: scuse me but, when you ran "grub-install /dev/sda", did the menu.lst contain the right or the wrong partitions?04:54
godfatherhey guys04:54
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mipstienljl: i don't believe it changed anything04:55
godfatheri have to install 3d drivers of my ati radeon sound card but i don't know how04:55
sic_erUSL: that means there is no chance to add a connection in gnome? ;)04:55
godfatheranyone can help me?04:55
saquibLjL > Anything related with a ley problem? It also says, E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. So that's why Index is not getting updated!04:55
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froudWhat's the difference between Ubuntu-installer and Debian-installer?04:55
marc_How would I make my second hardrive work04:55
krazykitgodfather: part of it is that it's not a sound card04:55
LjLsaquib: bah, it failed connecting to us.*, and it's complaining about keys... i'm not sure... apt-get update again (yeah i know)04:55
saquib*i meant key*04:55
krazykitubotu: tell godfather about ati04:55
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erUSULsic_: System> admin> net ??04:55
gerhardhi04:55
LjLmipstien: no, i mean *before* you ran it, was menu.lst correct or not? (i mean, the one you pasted was the *wrong* one, wasn't it)04:55
gerhardhow do i create folders? mkdir doesnt work04:55
saquibLjL > How to get the proper GPG key?04:56
mipstienljl: the one i pasted was wrong  yes04:56
sic_erUSL: yes - but this is very different than everywhere else and there is no "new" or "add" button04:56
krazykitgerhard: yes it does.  do you have permissions to make folders where you're trying?04:56
erUSULgerhard: mkdir *should* and *does* work unless you do not have permisions04:56
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LjLmipstien: and the one you had before running grub-install was...?04:57
gerhardok I forgot to make a blank04:57
gerhardyoure right04:57
soniumis the nvidia driver from the repository the same than the one from nvidia.com?04:57
erUSULsic_: what type of connection are you trying to add??04:57
mipstienljl: i don't understand the question04:57
LjLsaquib: that i don't know. i've been asked that yesterday, too, but i couldn't find the correct page04:57
LjL!gpgerr04:57
ubotuGetting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Read the top section of http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:57
sic_an pppoe connection for my modem04:57
krazykitsonium: the one in the repo is a bit out of date.  there are a few repos with updated ones, though.  someone blogged on planet ubuntu about it04:57
erUSULsic_: is an adsl usb modem?? which model??04:58
E-bolacant u test a screensaver?04:58
erUSUL!adsl04:58
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE04:58
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soniumis ok to use the one from nvidia.com or are problems expected?04:58
E-bolain fullscreen i mean?04:58
E-bolacant seem to find it in ubuntu?04:58
krazykitE-bola: yes, but i dunno about gnome-screensaver.04:58
sic_erUSUL: no, a zyxel with ethernet connection04:58
E-bolahow?04:58
dbzdeathi've forgotten which meta package to use to install all of xorg stuff04:58
dbzdeathanyone know which it is?04:58
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LjLmipstien: err, i mean... your /boot/grub/menu.lst file, was it "correct" (i.e. listed the right root partition, /dev/sda7 and (hd0,6)) *before* you typed "grub-install /dev/sda", or was it wrong (like the one you pasted)?04:59
krazykitE-bola: find the screensaver options.  probably System -> Preferences04:59
mipstienit was wrong04:59
LjLmipstien: or if you prefer -- make sure to put the correct stuff into menu.lst, and then run "grub-install /dev/sda" again04:59
E-bolakrazykit: thats wher ei am04:59
sic_erUSUL: it isn't a real problem, but i'm just wondering04:59
mipstienljl: ok04:59
E-bolabut its only showing them in a small window04:59
LjLmipstien: ok, then fix it an run it again04:59
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erUSULsic_: go to  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE as ubotu told you04:59
krazykitE-bola: then gnome-screensaver is worse than i though.  i prefer xscreensaver05:00
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pirx_hi! does anyone know how to make ctrl+arrow work in the adress bar in firefox? i think its something in about:config, but cant remember what05:00
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LjLmipstien: there's also a related thread here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-217617.html - not that it would necessarily be too accurate, but05:00
mipstienljl: fixed and run again05:00
sic_erUSUL: thx05:00
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erUSULsic_: no problem05:01
LjLmipstien: well, dunno, try a reboot now. i know it could be just wasted time, but.... and if you want to reinstall grub through APT, do that. shouldn't do any harm05:01
mipstienljl: should i try to install grub with the grub command  now?05:01
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LjLmipstien: i think grub-install does the same thing, just with an easier command line...05:01
mipstieni c05:01
UKMatthey, quick question, i'm on skype and the other person can BARELY hear me, does anyone know how to fix that05:01
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UKMattor if thats a common problem05:01
krazykitUKMatt: turn up your mic volume05:02
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krazykitUKMatt: in the mixer.05:02
LjLUKMatt: is your microphone volume set high enough? do you have Mic Gain on?05:02
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ZombieQhello05:02
UKMattthe mic is all the way up, and i turned everything in the mixer up that i thought could be linked05:02
UKMattwhats Mic Gain05:02
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mipstienljl i do believe that fixxed it, thank you05:02
UKMattI have Mic Boost (+20db) on05:03
ZombieQI cannot modprobe the fglrx module for some reason it gives me FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted05:03
LjLUKMatt: well, not all cards have it... it's actually called "Mic Boost" here, anyway i think it increased the microphone gain when it sees a low signal -- or something. at any rate, it just makes it louder05:03
krazykitZombieQ: sudo?05:03
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ZombieQalready used sudo05:03
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UKMattI have Mic Boost (+20db) on, ljl05:03
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krazykitZombieQ: err, are you using edgy?05:03
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ZombieQyes05:04
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erUSULUKMatt: skype uses oss iirc so maybe you have to check the oss device mixer too (in gnome mixer File>Change Device)05:04
krazykitZombieQ: then you're in the wrong place.  go to #ubuntu+105:04
ZombieQoh sorry ok thanks :)05:04
krazykitZombieQ: s'ok05:04
UKMatterusul, how do i do that?05:04
UKMatterusul, oh i did that05:04
erUSULUKMatt: (in gnome mixer File>Change  Device)05:04
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UKMatterusul, i tried both05:04
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thedashis there any particular reason why my Ubuntu always freezes if it runs the screen saver for more than 15 minutes or so?05:06
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krazykitthedash: either you have no hardware acceleration or you have ati-drivers05:07
krazykitprobably05:07
vandit2k7Hi I have a question...I installed the new 6.10 ubuntu beta that came out yesterday and I tried installing nvidia-glx and now the X server fails05:07
thedashI have an ATI card, not so sure about drivers atm :X05:07
krazykitvandit2k7: go to #ubuntu+105:08
vandit2k7thank you05:08
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davvsis there any application to control bandwidth in ubuntu?05:09
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TheNu1greetings05:10
TheNu1I have a PCI card to add 2 serial ports... Any idea on how I can get the port and the IRQ for setserial ?05:10
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fmHi05:11
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fmI was just wondering.. do you know whether it is possible to share CPU resources over a LAN ?05:11
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krazykitfm: sorta.  you could make clusters.05:12
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fmclusters?05:12
krazykitfm: but it's really not the simplest thing to set up.05:12
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sic_bye05:12
TheNu1fm: look at things like openMosix05:12
TheNu1fm: but clusters are realy hard to set up and use-specific05:13
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fmok thanks!05:13
debianoshello05:13
krazykitfm: so short answer: no, long answer:yes05:13
fmanyway thats mostly for fun05:13
erUSULTheNu1: dmesg | grep tty05:13
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erUSULTheNu1: i get serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A05:14
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TheNu1erUSUL: what is that exactly ?05:15
debianos i try ....just a test05:15
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erUSULTheNu1: dmesg shows the kernel boot log i piped it to grep so i get the lines detecting tty's (serial ports)05:16
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Justy-Hello!05:16
TheNu1oh ok05:16
TheNu1[17179573.740000]  serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A05:16
TheNu1[17179573.744000]  00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A05:16
TheNu1[17179573.744000]  0000:05:08.0: ttyS4 at I/O 0x9000 (irq = 217) is a 16550A05:16
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Justy-question: how can i learn whether i have installed the latest driver for my graphics card?05:16
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fijamhello05:17
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erUSULTheNu1: do not paste here please! use a pastebin...05:17
erUSUL!paste05:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:17
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TheNu1ok, didn't know05:17
M_A_KI am getting ready to reinstall ubuntu.  I have an 80 GB HD and would like some suggestions on partitioning.05:17
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erUSULTheNu1: the card's tty is this "ttyS4 at I/O 0x9000 (irq = 217) is a 16550A" the other seems the onboard one05:17
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xopherIf I get this error when dpkg-builpackaginng: dpkg-gencontrol: error: must specify package since control info has many - what should I edit?05:18
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pandamoniumi have a desktop setup of Ubuntu with KDE. I'm also running some services on it and I'm thinking of handling network routing through it. Are there any resources where I can read up on making a sort of hybrid desktop/server implementation?05:18
segfault_xopher, ur control file05:18
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Justy-question: how can i learn whether i have installed the latest driver for my graphics card?05:18
xophersegfault_, what in it?05:18
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xopherthere are already two packages mentioned05:19
TheNu1erUSUL: thanks, gonna try it05:19
segfault_xopher, there are plenty of debian pkging resources on the net plz read up first05:19
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erUSULTheNu1: no problem05:19
fyrestrtrJusty-: if you installed it from the repos, then the system will notify you of any updates.05:19
TheNu1erUSUL: but there is 2 ports... why is only one detected ?05:19
xophersegfault_, sure, I have, just wondered if someone would have had a quick answer05:19
Justy-fyrestrtr, how can i know if it is already installed?05:20
fyrestrtrJusty-: check the output of glxinfo05:20
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segfault_xopher, plz read if no luck come back and ill try to answer05:20
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fyrestrtrJusty-: if it says direct rendering: Yes, then you have them installed.05:20
erUSULTheNu1: i do not know... has your mobo a serial port? maybe i'm mistaken and the two detected are in the pci card05:20
Justy-display: :0  screen: 005:20
Justy-direct rendering: Yes05:20
Justy-hmm05:20
Justy-ok05:20
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Justy-thanks fyrestrtr05:21
TheNu1erUSUL: no serial port on the mobo (that is the problem...) (+by the way, I get an I/O error with ttyS4)05:21
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erUSULTheNu1: then you have ttyS0 and ttyS4 both on the pci card... and you know i/o and irq for them both. problem solved05:22
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swanflanyone use kmail?05:24
junix-brthe ndiswrapper is installed in dapper instalation?05:24
erUSULjunix-br: linux-restricted-modules iirc05:24
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junix-brerUSUL, is this a package?05:25
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walckhi all05:26
erUSULjunix-br: yes... (may miss the kernel version)05:26
walckI got myself into sort of a mess right now, anyone free to give me some hints to solve them?05:26
junix-brerUSUL, ok.. thank you!05:26
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walckI need to let a few outsiders into my machine, so I thought lowering permissions to everything was kinda smart, but I must've changed one permission too much05:27
junix-briirc is a module?05:27
fyrestrtrwalck: what tha heck....05:27
walckbecause now I can't start new gnome-terminals, and mplayer says segmentation fault05:27
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fyrestrtrjunix-br: iirc = if I recall/remember correctly05:27
walck(mplayer works as root though, so should be permission issues)05:27
Jas-Nixhello, I have a Dell gx520, it has dual-core intel 64bit05:27
TheNu1erUSUL: the serial port is still not working... should I change the UART or something ?05:28
Jas-NixI downloaded the 64 bit livecd and when I try to run it it just says "loading"05:28
junix-brfyrestrtr, thanks05:28
Jas-Nixthen nothing happens, any ideas ?05:28
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junix-br=)05:28
thedashcan I see what drivers I have atm?05:28
azzgo1hello05:28
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azzgo1ubuntu has crashed twice for me when i started wow, first time i get this, how can i see whats causing it?05:28
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cyberfallhey hey05:29
TheNu1azzgo1: what kind of crash ?05:29
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walckanyone have a good clue about how permissions should be setup correctly?05:29
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azzgo1TheNu1: everything freezind, even the sound, only way i can get out of it is by manualy restarting05:30
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cyberfallkinda of a noob here gotz a problem compileing mplayer or lookin for a program that will convert dvix or xvid to dvd05:30
PunjabiFLOYDIANcan anyone tell me how to update my source.list05:30
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tripitakaHello, I just booted kubuntu, intalled to disk, now I'm looking at a username/password prompt - what are the default login credentials? thanks05:30
fyrestrtr!source-o-matic > PunjabiFLOYDIAN05:30
pandamoniumazzgo1, does the cursor freeze as well?05:30
erUSULTheNu1: i do not know can you paste some of the errors you are getting ?? also do a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' in a free terminal to see what may be happening (btw setserial -a /dev/ttySn gives the information)05:30
azzgo1pandamonium: everything05:30
fyrestrtrtripitaka: the username and password you created during setup.05:30
tripitaka!05:31
tripitakaastonishing :D05:31
pandamoniumazzgo1, could there be a hardware problem?05:31
erUSULwalck: System>Admin>Users and groups05:31
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tripitakaamazingly it works, thanks05:31
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azzgo1pandamonium: yes, i think i could, but how can i identify what exactly causes the thing?05:31
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pandamoniumazzgo1, try running some diagnostics such as those found on Ultimate Boot CD05:32
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thedashI use Beep Media Player, and just recently it started crashing a lot, it just closes in the middle of a song :S05:32
zardinukso I can't figure this ubuntu out, where are all the frickin init scripts? I can't start/restart samba05:32
azzgo1pandamonium: "Ultimate Boot CD"?05:32
walckerUSUL: got error: Failed to run users-admin as user root: Failed to fork new process: No such file or directory05:32
erUSULzardinuk: /etc/init.d/ who would have said it, eh??05:32
cyberfallummm.... any help on compilein mplayer it crashes on compile with xvid installed i had it kinda compile before i compile xvid in but now i dont know how to remove xvid05:33
fyrestrtrzardinuk: make sure you have samba installed, then /etc/init.d/samba restart05:33
zardinukerUSUL: I have /etc/samba/smb.conf, but no /etc/init.d/samba05:33
pandamoniumazzgo1, Yes, it's an iso that you boot into and it gives access to a number of tests05:33
fyrestrtrcyberfall: why are you compiling it? You just need to install the codecs.05:33
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fyrestrtrzardinuk: install the server component.05:33
pandamoniumazzgo1, also, have you set a CPU temperature alarm in the BIOS?05:33
zardinukpandamonium, erUSUL: how do you search for packages from the command line?05:33
fyrestrtrcyberfall: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:33
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cyberfallcause i couldnt find it in the synapic package managaer05:33
fyrestrtrzardinuk: apt-cache search foo05:33
zardinukah, thank you!05:34
azzgo1pandamonium: there is no problem with my cpu cooling, where doi get this iso image from?05:34
cyberfalland i cant find mplayer in it05:34
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erUSULzardinuk: apt-cache search05:34
cyberfalli only see kmplayer05:34
pandamoniumazzgo1, GIYF ;)05:34
fyrestrtrcyberfall: enable universe and multiverse repos.05:34
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azzgo1pandamonium: and is thereany way of bootin it without burning it?05:34
pandamoniumazzgo1, you need to burn it to a CD and then boot straight from it05:34
cyberfallumm i dont see them i got all but the comercail repos enabled05:34
DjainetteHello all. I've tried to install edgy yesterday, but my X won't work. I have an error loading font 'fixed'. Does anyone have a clue ?05:34
fyrestrtr!universe > cyberfall05:35
azzgo1pandamonium: yeah, i know, tought there is a way to boot it from grub/lilo or something05:35
zardinukok, so /etc/samba/smb.conf is there but samba server is not installed... that is confusing05:35
fyrestrtr!info mplayer05:35
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB05:35
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fyrestrtrcyberfall: you don't have multiverse enabled :)05:35
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mikeo1where is the startup gnome settings script file05:35
cyberfallumm let me lookie05:35
pandamoniumthere's no good running it using an OS as it will interfere with stuff that the OS is allocated05:35
erUSULzardinuk: conf files will not be deleted unless you use the --purge option05:35
fyrestrtrmikeo1: system > preferences > session, then the startup tab.05:36
zardinuksmb.conf came with the fresh install05:36
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erUSULDjainette: go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy support05:36
fyrestrtrzardinuk: that's because its there for the smb client support.05:36
pandamoniumazzgo1, I take it you don't have access to a burner on a functional system?05:36
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DjainetteerUSUL: thanks05:36
debianos__hello05:36
erUSULDjainette: no problem05:36
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azzgo1pandamonium: yeah, arent the applications runnable from a linux box?05:37
thedashare there any media players for Ubuntu that don't suck?05:37
cyberfallubuntu 6.06 lts (binary) community maintained (universe) offcially supported restricted copyright is on05:37
kaypaxhi all, can any1 pls recomend me a good web authoring tool?05:37
fyrestrtrcyberfall: again, enable *multiverse*05:37
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pandamoniumazzgo1, AFAIK it needs to run standalone05:37
erUSULthedash: i'm quite happy with xine and mplayer05:37
pandamoniumthedash, I quite like VLC05:38
Ignite_thedash, yes plenty.05:38
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fyrestrtrkaypax: nvu, quanta or screem05:38
frogzoothedash: gxine's vid quality is excellent once you tune it up05:38
kaypaxthanx05:38
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H080J03how do you tell what version of the linux kernal you are running?05:38
cyberfallfyrestrtr,  i dont see one sorry05:38
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fyrestrtr!multiverse05:38
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:38
erUSULH080J03: uname -r05:38
H080J03thank you05:38
frogzooH080J03: lsbrelease -a05:38
Ignite_thedash, if you are looking for recommendations then Amarok is my favorite. :-)05:38
fyrestrtrcyberfall: see the link that ubotu typed out.05:38
thedashhow do I see what hardware drivers I have?05:38
fyrestrtrthedash: why?05:39
erUSULthedash: ls -R /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/kernel/*05:39
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cyberfall mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB05:39
cyberfallthat all i seen from it05:39
cyberfalloh k05:39
thedashbecause I think my Seagate SATA is conflicting with some drivers, specifically the Sil 311* ones05:39
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frogzoothedash: lsmod for what's currently running05:39
fyrestrtrthedash: lsmod will tell you what is loaded.05:40
debianos__ ineed help for server ftp05:40
cyberfallfyrestrtr, wich one05:40
cyberfalli see 205:40
fyrestrtrcyberfall: *sigh* read both.05:40
fyrestrtrcyberfall: you need all the information you can get.05:40
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cyberfallfyrestrtr,  how true hehe05:41
cyberfallsorry so use to red hat and suse05:41
fyrestrtrI'm sure you had to read there too :)05:41
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cyberfallnaw stumb in there and killed the kernal a few times05:41
thedashlsmod doesn't give me mcuh info though, other than the filesize of the item?05:41
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xophersegfault_, could not find out what was causing this, my debian/control file is just as it should be.05:42
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lastnodethedash, lsmod lists the kernel modules you have installed05:42
cyberfallsuse and red hat had a easy program (yast for suse and red hat i dont remember05:42
segfault_paste in pastebin05:42
segfault_xopher, paste in pastebin05:42
walckok, as I said earlier, I've changed too many permissions, but I can'05:42
bones!info xgl05:42
ubotuPackage xgl does not exist in any distro I know05:42
thedashlastnode:: can I look into it more though?05:42
fyrestrtrcyberfall: synaptic is the equivalent for ubuntu05:42
walckcan't troubleshoot and find which files that are wrong and stopping me from doing anything05:43
fyrestrtr!xgl > bones05:43
xophersegfault_, sure, Ill need to recompile it first, to get the error again..05:43
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bonesthanks05:43
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walckat the moment my normal user can't even create processes, that is kind of a big issue :)05:43
thenakedcowboyhey all05:43
pandamoniumazzgo1, how many memory modules have you in your system?05:43
azzgo1pandamonium: 205:43
cyberfallya but it dont have the hardware control etc stuff built into it to just pop in and install like red hat has05:43
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cyberfallu got a device manager but that it05:44
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gravesonwhat can i use to convert my audio(mp3,wav, and rm) to psp format05:44
fyrestrtrgraveson: mplayer05:44
pandamoniumazzgo1, have you tried systematically removing them? I'm not an expert by any means, I'm just going from a similar experience I had on my dozy box05:45
erUSULwalck: i'm afraid that you are alone here becouse ony you now what you messed with what comands you run etc... only you can undo what you have done05:45
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azzgo1pandamonium: havent tried it, ill try it if it crashes when i start wow this time05:45
walckI know what I've ran to a quite great extence, but I have no clue of how to undo a chmod :)05:45
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pandamoniumazzgo1, I found that my modules were perfectly functional but the motherboard had developed some kind of addressing fault.05:45
fyrestrtrwalck: you just set it back to what they were previously.05:46
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mythrilanyone know where I can look at the release schedule for Ubuntu?05:46
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fyrestrtr!schedule > mythril05:46
cyberfallfyrestrtr,  what is Canonical05:47
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fyrestrtrcyberfall: the company that makes ubuntu05:47
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M_A_KCan anybody point me to a how-to on granting a user (non sudo'er) the right to run netowrk-admin module?05:47
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lastnodefyrestrtr, that's kind of incorrect05:47
cyberfallumm cool oks05:47
walckfyrestrtr: yeah, but that's kinda the problem I suppose, how do I find out what it was earlier? if I run random chmod o-rx *, I don't know which files were supposed to have rx and which wasn't supposed too05:47
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zardinukhow do I log in to samba with the [homes]  share? I used to turn on plain text passwords in windows, but isn't there a way to use the native encryption with samba? Is that what I should be looking for?05:47
lastnodecyberfall, Canonical funds several ubuntu core team developers. they also own the trademarks. but ubuntu is really "developed" by hundreds of people from all over the world.05:47
eurytusM_A_K, start by googling "visudo"05:47
mythrilfyrestrtr: thanks05:47
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thedashany way I can see which version of a specific driver I have?05:48
eurytusM_A_K, or just reading the man page for it05:48
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MetaMorfoziSif i'm install xp05:48
MetaMorfoziShow can i restore grub?05:48
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erUSUL!grub05:48
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:48
MetaMorfoziSoh, cool. thx.05:49
cyberfalllastnode,  ya i knew that05:49
cyberfallopen source rocks05:49
cyberfallbut still it has to be maintaind by someone05:49
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walckI know this problem will prolly bug me for infinity, but right now I need support with those more critical parts, like what parts of the / filesystem that gets read/written to when a process is forked or created, anyone know info at that level?05:49
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lastnodecyberfall, er, it's maintained by many developers, lke i said05:49
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M_A_KOK, thanx05:50
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erUSULwalck: /var/,  /tmp/, /proc/ ...05:50
picochuwalck,  for a start /proc05:50
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cyberfalllastnode,  yes but still it kinda owned by the main devopler that started the project but it open source to others to make sure it stays up to date right05:51
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lastnodecyberfall, the code itself is not owned at all. it's all GPLed (well everything in universe iirc). so if you wanted to, you could take it now and call it 'Cyberfall Linux' , as long as you released any changes you made05:51
cyberfalland if there any comerial software put in cause u paid for it that has to be kept up by someone ??05:51
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erUSUL!offtopic05:52
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:52
lastnodecyberfall, Canonical only "owns" the Ubuntu name, and that is so that we cant take a fork and call it Ubuntu 8.08 for example05:52
lastnodeerUSUL, yes my bad. it started ontopic though ;-)05:52
cyberfallok05:52
LjLlastnode: you mean, like Mozilla does? *ducks*05:52
lastnodecyberfall, join me in #ubuntu-offtopic05:52
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lastnodeLjL, :D05:52
picochuerUSUL, are u sure /var and /temp get read/write in all cases?05:52
cyberfalllastnode,  na that ok i got your point05:52
frogzoolastnode: did they trademark Ubunut ?05:53
cyberfallfyrestrtr, btw thx for your help05:53
walckthanks erUSUL + picochu, I'll look some at those :)05:53
lastnodefrogzoo, well the bottom of the wiki says something along those lines (IANAL)05:53
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cyberfallthis place helped more then most #linux channels do..05:53
bsdfoxanyone know an easy way to convert a bunch of .ifo/.vob files to xvid?05:53
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picochucyberfall, #gentoo ppl are pretty friendly too05:54
erUSULpicochu: not in all cases but many processes has lock files logs etc /var/log/, /var/run/, tmp files and unix sockets in /tmp/ etc05:54
LjLcyberfall: more like in, ten times more? but ten times zero is zero05:54
picochucyberfall,  can't say the same for the ppl in debian :P05:54
cyberfallbsdfox,  im lookin for something that will convert from xvid to dvd05:54
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picochuerUSUL,  precisely.. that's what i thought05:54
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Bluecandyhi05:54
Bluecandyi need help:05:55
fyrestrtrcyberfall: k3b will do that.05:55
picochuerUSUL,  then u might as well add /etc05:55
LjLBluecandy: we know that - this is a support channel ;-) what do you need help with?05:55
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Bluecandyi cant boot (k)ubuntu edgy since the first knot. i get a MMCONFIG bios error, but thats on much distros, it takes a minute and its fine (fixed in 2.6.18) but after that i get "cant read/access on hda" or something. i have a s-ata05:55
Bluecandyi am booting from desktop cd05:55
cyberfallwell most of the time i ask something in undernets #linux channel i get told read the MAN page which is like reading a physis book and get little to nothing out of it05:55
LjL!edgy05:55
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:55
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fyrestrtrBluecandy: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support05:55
Bluecandyok05:56
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kothz!i91505:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:56
cyberfallwhat is transcode then05:56
fyrestrtr!915 > kothz05:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:56
erUSULpicochu: in /etc/ most things are ro except /etc/mtab an very few other things. in a well layouted unix system it should be posible to have / /usr in a read only file system...05:56
harisundHello! what is the max file size in a fat32 partition?05:56
walckwould anyone be so kind to pastebin their ls -l of /proc and /var? would be greatly apriciated05:56
LjLharisund: 2 or 4 gb, i think05:57
cyberfall!transcode05:57
ubotutranscode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 14123 kB, installed size 42172 kB05:57
dyn-afk4GB is the max filesize vor FAT3205:57
dyn-afk*for05:57
kothz4GB - 2bytes :)05:57
cyberfallwell that a little vage05:57
b_52CentosImpossible de rcuprer http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Somme de contrle MD5 incohrente05:57
b_52CentosImpossible de rcuprer http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source/Sources.bz2  Somme de contrle MD5 incohrente05:57
b_52CentosImpossible de rcuprer http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/universe/source/Sources.bz2  Somme de contrle MD5 incohrente05:57
b_52CentosLecture des listes de paquets... Fait05:57
b_52CentosE: Le tlchargement de quelques fichiers d'index a chou, ils ont t ignors, ou les anciens ont t utiliss  la place.05:57
harisundthanks dyn-afk and LjL ... just what I was looking for :)05:57
b_52Centosroot@b52GM:/home/mohammed#05:57
LjLwalck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25177/05:57
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walckthanks LjL05:58
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Arcdoes anyone know why typing on the keyboard would beep (no text appear) on the login screen?05:58
semPidhow can I install a wireless usb card ?05:58
synjet!fr > b_52Centos05:58
picochub_52Centos, english si vou plait?05:58
LjLthat was an error message05:58
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Sobekhi there I need help with my cd-rw drive, it is correctly identified as 2nd IDE master and there is an entry in system->administration->discs and I can open the cd-rw drive with "eject /dev/hdc" however I cannot use this drive to read cds nor burn data onto cds; after installation there was no entry for the cdrw drive in /etc/fstab but even after adding one and craeting the corresponding drive in /media the drive refuses to work at all05:59
semPidinstall packard bell wipen?05:59
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LjL"the download of some index files has failed, they have been ignored, or the old ones have been used in their place"05:59
Arcnevermind :-)05:59
bsdfoxsemPid, try plugging it in and then dmesg|tail -n1005:59
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Sobekwhat can I try to make it work properly?05:59
zmeiat_jorohey guys, I've been tyring for two days now to get some stuff from my old windows machine to my new one with ubuntu and I installed and configured samba but still nothign05:59
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cyberfallis there much diffrents between opendivx and regular dvix06:00
cyberfallis there much diffrents between opendivx and regular divx06:00
kothzafter 13 minutes I would have ripped the hard drive out of the old windows box, slaved it to your ubuntu drive, and just copied the data :)06:00
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harisundzmeiat_joro: I guess you could try and get samba workin, but otherwise, you have plenty other methods of data transfer, kothz's method being one of them .06:00
Yaakovzmeiat_joro: Install PuTTY on your Windows machine and use scp.06:00
Sobekif you have an usb stick at hand, use that :D06:00
kothzThere are more fun methods, but most of them require a soldering gun :)06:00
semPid<bsdfox> done it06:01
cyberfallscp is ok06:01
harisundwhoa kothz! let's stick to software methods :)06:01
kothz:)06:01
LjLkothz: my favourite one involved buying quite a few ink cartridges...06:01
cyberfallbut samba is better if u want to open like mp3s to play on a diffrent box06:01
cyberfallotherwise u got to copy the folder(s)06:01
cyberfallwhich kinda blows06:01
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semPid<bsdfox> done it06:01
segfault_cyberfall, nfs06:02
xophersegfault_, it actually compiles when I commented out the other package from the control file (bmpx-dev), any ideas what I should change to get them both compiled? dpkg-gencontrol: error: must specify package since control info has many. - Was the error..06:02
Lukeis there any way to remove all the packages that are not in the ubuntu-server install or explicitly installed?06:02
cyberfallnfs?06:02
NotWiredhow can i find out which packages are installed on my system from the command line?06:02
semPid<bsdfox> done it06:02
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harisundNotWired: dpkg --list06:02
zmeiat_jorohey, why didn't I think of that. putty06:02
NotWiredthank you harisund06:02
segfault_xopher, paste ur control file in pastebin06:02
cyberfallputty wont transfer the files i think06:02
LjLLuke: you mean unused dependencies? debfoster or orphaner may help.  also, if you install stuff using aptitude rather than apt-get, removal of unused dependencies will be automatic.06:02
thedashany way I can see which version of a specific driver I have?06:02
semPid<bsdfox> done it06:02
cyberfalli think u have to use scp to do that06:02
harisundzmeiat_joro: I doubt putty will help you transfer files though06:02
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LjLNotWired: dpkg --get-selections06:03
trappistI use winscp to transfer files06:03
cyberfallbut i scp uses putty as a shell06:03
semPido raposa do krlh responde fds06:03
kaypaxcan any1 suggest any photoshop-like application for Linux pls?:D06:03
cyberfalltrappist, u got it to allow to open more then one file06:03
trappistkaypax: gimp06:03
dyn-afkthe gimp offcourse06:03
LukeLjL: well I installed ubuntu-desktop and I want to remove it and all its deps now06:03
semPido raposa do krlh responde fds06:03
semPid<bsdfox> done it06:03
cyberfalllikst say a bunch of mp3s06:03
picochuis there a sshfs equivalent for windows?06:03
segfault_cyberfall, u can use nfs server if ur files are on another *nix box and mount that dir locally as if it were on ur machine06:03
LjLsemPid: what the heck are you saying? =)06:03
kaypaxtrappist: no, not gimp06:03
trappistcyberfall: open?  it just transfers files06:03
LjLsemPid: do you speak english?06:03
semPidsure06:04
trappistkaypax: that's as close as you'll get without running photoshop in wine06:04
cyberfallnfs umm..06:04
xophersegfault_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25179/06:04
harisundNotWired: actially, dpkg --list | grep ^ii will give you a list of installed packages06:04
semPidbsdfox, done it, now what06:04
LukeLjL: debfoster and orphaner just look for unused libs right?06:04
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LjLsemPid: ... then way are you keeping saying pasting "<bsdfox> done it" and saying "o raposa do krlh responde fds"06:04
kaypaxok then, thanx for your advice, I'll try to do with GIMP^^06:04
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Sobekkaypax: Gimp www.gimp.org06:04
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LjLLuke: orphaner looks for libraries and -dev packages. debfoster is more manual, you have to manually tell it which packages you want to keep.  for the future, IMHO the best solution is to use aptitude (though that doesn't help right now)06:05
picochui don't think samba traffic are encrypted.06:05
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Sobekkaypax: with the gimpshop plug-in06:05
semPidLjL, install packard bell wipen?06:05
harisundpicochu: no, samba is not encrypted.06:05
cyberfalldoes nfs work like samba would06:05
LukeLjL: why does aptitude track that stuff?06:05
trappistpicochu: usernames and passwords are, if you configure it that way06:05
stu_where is the config file for X again, and whats it called please?06:05
LjLLuke: ... because it's handy? :o)06:05
cyberfallill have to do some reading on that thx for the tip06:05
trappistnfs isn't encrypted either06:05
harisundstu_: /etc/X11? and /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:05
LjLLuke: ... because there are many people who'd like to do just what you've asked? ;)06:05
cyberfallsamba isnt eather is it06:05
semPidLjL, install packard bell wipen?06:06
LukeLjL: is there a handy way to remove ubuntu-desktop and all its deps with aptitude?06:06
stu_ta06:06
picochutrappist,  which is why i use sshfs now06:06
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LjLLuke: no -- well, yes, but only if you had *installed* it using aptitude in the first place06:06
picochutrappist, harisund  but is there sshfs client for windows systems?06:06
LukeLjL: thats what i asked origionally06:06
Aque0swhat is better. ubuntu or debian?06:06
stu_anyone know what this is about: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b  ??06:06
LjLLuke: if you had done that, it would just be "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop". right now, i think you'll have to live with debfoster/orphaner. i know they aren't optimal06:06
trappistpicochu: sshfs is nice if you're transferring a lot of sensitive files - if it's like music and stuff, that's an awful lot of encryption overhead06:06
LukeLjL: is there any other solution you know of?06:06
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harisundpicochu: good pint .. not to my knowledge.. I believe there was something with cygwin and sshfs.... but not sure.06:06
mtoddis there a way I can search the the apt-get servers that I don't have selected? (like, unstable, etc) (specifically for Ruby 1.8.5)06:07
LjLLuke: but your system simply doesn't *know* about which packages you installed manually and which where installed automatically06:07
LjLsemPid: i don't understand what you're saying, sorry06:07
mjrsshfs is fuse-spesific, I doubt windows/cygwin supports that. But it sure is nice :)06:07
LukeLjL: aah i see - thank you06:07
bsdfoxsemPid, don't be annoying06:07
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trappistLuke: when Edgy comes out, you'll be able to remove ubuntu-desktop, and apt will tell you what packages were automatically installed by it and no longer required06:07
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LjLLuke: although... if you remove libgnome, most -- if not all -- gnome packages will go away06:07
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LjLtrappist: really? using what?06:07
picochutrappist,  encrpytion might be worth it when someone is snopping around :)06:07
harisundpicochu: sshfs requires fuse -- which in turn requires kernel source..06:07
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segfault_xopher, iirc u need only one package line for the bianry, u may need to create a sep pkg to create the -dev lib06:07
semPidLjL, How can I install a Packard Bell WiPen?06:07
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picochuharisund, not so bad... what's wrong with using kernel source?06:08
LjLsemPid: ah - i didn't get the "wipen"... yet, i have no idea...06:08
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trappistLjL: built into apt06:08
harisundpicochu: I meant on Windows :006:08
LukeLjL: i suppose I can remove libgnome (will gtk go away too?) and then get the list of server packages and diff against that?06:08
picochuharisund, yeah i know.06:08
jaWhen adept notifier alerts me of an update, can I find out what the change is in the new package?06:08
stu_channel for X with berly, xgl or aixgl or whatever its called please?06:08
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LjLtrappist: when you say "apt", you actually mean the APT backend? so all of synaptic, adept, apt-get and company will do that?06:08
xophersegfault_, well when I compile beryl-core, I get beryl beryl-core and beryl-dev, so it should be possible..06:08
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trappistpicochu: again, depends on what you're transferring.  if somebody's snooping around my network, the last thing I'm worried about is somebody knowing what I'm listening to.  for example.06:08
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manuelchat3000I have a NAT problem with Azureus. Did port forwarding. Run well on knoppix and windows. et problems with Ubuntu. I tied to allow the port with iptables. But nothing changes06:09
LjLLuke: no, i don't think libgtk will go away... you could remove that one, though -- it will remove even more stuff.  be careful you don't remove *too* much, though"!06:09
trappistLjL: I don't use the frontends much, so I don't know if they're all up to date with the functionality, but yeah it's a backend thing.06:09
picochuharisund, fuse is great i can even turn my inbox to a filesystem06:09
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harisundpicochu: indeed!06:09
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LjLtrappist: well that's real good news06:09
harisundmanuelchat3000: wait .. you need to have port forwarding done by your gateway ..06:09
manuelchat3000Anyone experienced the same?06:09
bsdfoxsemPid, I can already tell this isn't going to work for you if you can't take what you found and google it06:09
manuelchat3000Harisund: I did06:10
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LjLLuke: well, i'm not sure where to find a list of standard server packages, though.06:10
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geniusvicksWhich ubuntu 6.06 file shud I download? I have Pentium Celeron. Is it "i386" or somethin else06:10
LukeLjL: thanks for your suggestions. I think I will use aptitude all the time now. I never knew it tracked explicit installs so I didnt see any reason to use it over apt-get06:10
harisundmanuelchat3000: and you opened up the required port using iptables? By default iptables has no blocks . .. anyway, you can try running tcpdump if you want .06:10
LjLgeniusvicks: yes06:10
erUSULgeniusvicks: i38606:10
geniusvicksLjL thnks06:10
LukeLjL: on the CD06:10
picochutrappist,  i am a little paranoid. If you want to know what i am doing. You'll have to ask me :)06:11
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harisundanyone here used/uses tcpdump? It's a wonderful tool.06:11
LjLLuke: i guess so, yet i don't know *where* on the cd ;-) but if you have one handy and you know, i guess that would be a possibility06:11
geniusvickswhich is faster torrent or the normal download?06:11
picochutrappist, I hate stalkers :)06:11
LjLLuke: note, besides, that you don't have to use the (imho ugly) UI of aptitude... you can just use it (almost) like apt-get, with command line parameters06:11
manuelchat3000Ok I`ll give a try. Thanks06:11
picochugeniusvicks,  torrent download speed is proportional to your upload speed06:11
trappistpicochu: I'm security-conscious - so when I transfer anything over the internet, or transfer sensitive data anywhere, I use some manifestation of ssh.  but for most stuff at home, samba or nfs.06:11
erUSULgeniusvicks: i recomend torrent as it's nicer with the server06:11
geniusvicksoh06:12
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geniusvickserUSUL what do u mean, its nicer with the server?06:12
LukeLjL: oh I didnt know what but I will look into it. Thanks06:12
stu_channel for X with berly, xgl or aixgl or whatever its called please?06:12
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erUSULgeniusvicks: you do not use bandwithd of the ubuntu server/mirror06:13
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WandererEdgy on my laptop is rather nice06:13
Lukejoin #apache06:13
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picochutrappist,  i keep things consistent, secondly i don't think the encryption has a huge performance hit.06:14
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kothzgrumble.  has anyone had experience with a dell flat panel @ 1680x1050 + an intel onboard video adapter?06:14
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trappistpicochu: if you use -c blowfish there's much less of it.  that's what I use when I, say, do X forwarding.06:15
Soekisanhi, I added up another hard drive after the install of ubuntu.  i wanna know how to make it mount on startup06:15
picochutrappist, okay thanks.06:16
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scott_hey, anyone help me with a usb pen drive issue? just bought a 2gig pen drive, it seems it has 2 paritions (one when switch on it is one way and another when switch is other way), atm i can only mount the partition when the switch is in the locked position, however this partition is only 1.4mb in size, the other partition (which i dont think is formatted) is 2gig in size, how can i get it to see/mount/format the other partition?06:16
tonyyarussoI use NetworkManager to handle my wifi connection, have have noticed that it won't connect until I actually log into Gnome via gdm (i.e. console won't have connection prior).  Why doesn't it just start up on boot?06:16
picochutrappist,  didn't really benchmark that :P06:16
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segfault_xopher, sry i wont be able to help with that, i would compare ur control file for this to that of beryl-core and see wat is different and try to eliminate the differences06:16
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xophersegfault_, just a sec then06:17
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caakinsCan someone help me06:17
geniusvicksCan I pause in Bit torrent and continue later someother day?06:17
caakinsor give some advice on Adept06:17
LjLtrappist, the apt thing reminds me, what has been / will be of the "Smart Package Manager" that was so talked about (even to the point of saying it would become the default package manager in Ubuntu) before this summer?06:17
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manuelchat3000@harisund: what about tcpdump??06:17
segfault_!ask06:17
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:17
Storkwhen i try and log in using gnome my monitor says 'Out of signal range', what can i do to fix this? (note: it works fine on fluxbox atm)06:17
LjLLuke: not really much to look at, it's "sudo aptitude install blah", "sudo aptitude remove blah", "sudo aptitude reinstall blah", "sudo aptitude search blah"06:17
manuelchat3000What I`m supposed to do with that?06:17
finalbetageniusvicks, yes06:17
geniusvicksfinalbeta thanks06:18
trappistLjL: never heard of that06:18
LukeLjL: wow that is awesome! thanks!06:18
LjLtrappist: oh06:18
xophersegfault_, here's the beryl-core one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25182/06:18
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LjLLuke: note that (since a recent new release of aptitude), if you try to remove a package that another package depends upon, it will not just go on and remove them both, but it will search for possible "solutions", give them a score, and present them to you ordered by score06:19
LjLLuke: i'm telling you this because it put me off a little when this appeared06:19
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finalbetascott_, that's weird. Normally the switch enabled writing to the stick.  ehm 1.4Mb size partition. Is it a special boot stick or something?06:19
Storkwhen i try and log in using gnome my monitor says 'Out of signal range', what can i do to fix this? (note: it works fine on fluxbox atm)06:19
caakinsWhy are programs greyed out in    Adept ?06:19
Soekisani thought it would be like windows but it seems like i have to declare the new HDD somewere to make it mount on startup, i just dont know where. anyone could tell me please?06:20
LjLtrappist: it's the "smartpm" package anyway, in case you wonder06:20
segfault_xopher, 1st thing to try is the spacing, between the end of description and next package tag06:20
scott_finalbeta, not that i know of, the 1.4mb partition has on it a .exe and the manual, telling you that the .exe etc is sued to set a password and the likes, when i switch it to the unlocked position ubuntu won't even see it, let alone mount it :(06:20
scott_finalbeta, ubuntu's has finally just seen it, although cant mount it06:20
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segfault_xopher, the parser may distinguish pkgs based on spacing06:21
LukeLjL: oh good call06:21
xophersegfault_, ok, trying it now06:21
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LukeLjL: thanks agian. I can use this I think06:21
voLvonx nx nx nx nx nx helpppppppppppp please06:21
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scott_finalbeta, i get the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25183/06:22
scott_finalbeta, when trying to mount wiva gnome06:22
caakinsI can't download updates06:22
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caakinsIt will not give me an option of selecting them06:23
caakinsWHY06:23
voLvohow to setup openssh server06:23
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finalbetascott_, I don't know. Reading the error I would think a bad partition table or non formatted disk. But when you buy them that's unlikely.06:23
erUSUL!ssh06:23
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/06:23
manuelchat3000someone of you as a clue about how make working Azureus. I did port forwarding and every goddamn. In windows works, in Ubuntu doesn`t.06:23
LjLvoLvo: "sudo aptitude install openssh-server"06:23
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voLvook good thanks LjL06:23
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scott_finalbeta, i think the 2nd partition isnt formatted (well qparted says it isnt, but wont let me format/partition it)06:23
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finalbetascott_, you are sure it's write enabled? Normally a stick lets you lock it.06:24
RaD|TzIf I interrupt the upgrade from breezy to edgy, haow can I restart it?06:24
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ardchoilleI'm learning about how to design a gui with glade and I ran ./automake.sh and it says "**Error**: You must have `glib' installed." Which package do I need for that?06:24
voLvohow to check openssh service is running ?06:24
LjLvoLvo: ps aux | grep ssh06:24
scott_finalbeta, in the locked position it shows me the 1.4mb partition with the .exe and manual in the unlocked partition i cant even mount it :(06:24
RaD|Tzardchoille, glib206:24
voLvook cool LjL thanks06:25
stu_what challel am I in please, I can only see half my screen06:25
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LjLstu_: #ubuntu06:25
ardchoilleRaD|Tz: I don't see a glib2 package06:25
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stu_damn: #ubuntu-xgl06:25
segfault_RaD|Tz, upgrades are supported from one version to the next u take ur life in ur hands if u skip a version06:25
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finalbetascott_, well, you really need to put it in unlocked position. But it might be a driver problem. Keep trying in unlocked.06:25
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ardchoilleRaD|Tz: I have libglib1.2 and libglib2.0-0 installed06:25
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Storkhelp! whenever i try and log into gnome my monitor displays 'OUT OF SIGNAL RANGE' :( :(06:25
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scott_finalbeta, it is unlcoekd position atm, when it cant mount it, trying to mount if manually via commandline says it cant read superblock06:26
gnomefreakLjL: ?06:26
stu_what channel am I in please?06:26
RaD|Tzsegfault_, I'm going from 6.06.1 to 6.1006:26
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finalbetaif it's not formatted, you can't mount it... You will need to format/create the partition first (fdisk)06:26
segfault_RaD|Tz, ahhh ok u said breezy to edgy06:27
Storkfyrestrtr: can't open the page, i'm in irssi06:27
thedashhow can I see which version of a specific driver I have?06:27
stu_damn this is annoying, how do I remove something from my session mnaager auto start06:27
finalbetascott_,  if it's not formatted, you can't mount it... You will need to format/create the partition first (fdisk)06:27
scott_finalbeta, fdisk cant open it :(06:27
fyrestrtrStork: what does irssi have to do with opening the page?06:27
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scott_finalbeta, fdisk says unable to read it06:27
LjLthedash: it depends, "drivers" can be many things in ubuntu. what do you want to know?06:27
Storkfyrestrtr: .. i'm on tty1 ..06:27
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thedashLjL:: specifically which version of the Silicon imaging SATA drivers06:28
finalbetascott_, no idea then :/, ask on forums. They are back up.06:28
thedashI think its 3112, but I would like to be sure06:28
fyrestrtrStork: you need to edit xorg.conf and set the proper refresh rates for your monitor.06:28
RaD|Tzsorry I mean dapper06:28
LjLthedash: uhm, i don't see any package mentioning them... they're probably a standard part of the kernel, i'd assume06:28
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thedashLjL:: thats possible, I don't know a whole lot about them, but I have problems with them, and there are a lot of sources on the internet saying that they are the cause of a lot of problems with Seagate SATA drives06:30
dfgaswhich is better for nvidia, aiglx or xgl?06:30
thedashLjL:: I was looking to find which exact version I have so I can better research a cuure06:30
fyrestrtrdfgas: only xgl works with nvidia.06:31
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BenCovUKhi all! how do I install the latex packages in EdgyEft? thanks :-)06:31
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fyrestrtrBenCovUK: #ubuntu+106:31
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LjLthedash: well, *if* they're part of the kernel, then i'm afraid you'd just have to wait for a newer kernel. can't seem to find too much on google though06:31
Soekisanhow do i know what ubuntu version i've got06:32
LjLSoekisan: cat /etc/issue06:32
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BenCovUKfyrestrtr: thanks sorry for that06:32
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Soekisanit says Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l  <-- means i should upgrade?06:33
LjLSoekisan: no. that's the current release version.06:33
thedashLjL:: I think the issue is that the kernel does not yet have decent support to run the SATA controller on my motherboard06:33
LjLSoekisan: also known as the Dapper Drake.06:33
Soekisanwhats the code name?06:33
Soekisandapper?06:33
Soekisangood then i wasnt that wrong.06:34
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SoekisanLjL:  dows edgy have an ETR?06:37
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trappistSoekisan: don't know what etr is, but /join #ubuntu+1 for edgy help06:37
LjL!tell Soekisan about schedule06:37
SoekisanEstimated Time of Release06:37
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selinuxiumHi all, This is a problem I seem to get after using an Ubuntu system for a while. While trying to shutdown first time it pops up an alert 'Your Session has been saved' but I have not got the save session box ticked in my sessions. How do I stop it?06:39
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jazzrockermisfit_toy, ding dong06:39
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caakins<Llisper> no it does not06:40
selinuxiumThen I have to click shutdown again for it to shut down06:40
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Tokenbadto install beryl should we remove compiz first?06:40
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justthisguydoes anyone know what modules I'd have to insert for usb (mass storage, I think)? For some reason theyre not getting done automatically after I upgraded. many tia06:42
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HiP_P!help06:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:45
spockyI'm trying to use edgy-beta, and I'm having a problem with sudo. Suddenly sudo says "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 29 20:39:46 2006" if I try to sudo anything. If I change the system time to some time after that it works, but if I get the real time, I get the same message... What could this be? And what could I do about it?06:45
romalucai have this problem with upgrade ubuntu tu 6.10beta:Can't mark 'ubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.) How i can do?06:45
Gumbyanyone here know how toget amarok to play m4a files?  Ive followed a howto online and installed the required packages but still no aac support06:46
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HiP_P!help oss06:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:46
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HiP_P!help alsa06:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help alsa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:46
HiP_Phmmm06:47
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HiP_Panyone know how to switch skype to oss instend of alsa?06:48
Wandereranyone know how to adjust the sensitivity on the scrollwheel type thing on a trackpad for a laptop?06:49
WandererHiP I think you can change the raw sound device06:49
selinuxium!eft06:49
ubotueft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy06:49
selinuxium!edgy06:49
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule06:49
pwkit says u can make calls anywher efor ffrre using skype.. but i can only call a land line phone in canada ?06:49
selinuxiumspocky: Ask in #ubuntu+1  :)06:50
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xophersegfault_, thanks, it actually worked. the space was needed06:50
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scarabatworkhello, everyone.  I'm trying to get postfix working on ubuntu server 6.1 and keep running into the error "fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use"06:51
scarabatworkis this a good question for here, or should i go to #postfix?06:51
Dr_Willispwk i think international calls are not free.06:52
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julianohow do i see the size of a folder using the terminal?06:54
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POVaddctjuliano: du -sh foldername06:54
julianotks06:54
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jazzrocker!alsa06:55
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems06:55
jazzrocker!oss06:55
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
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segfault_xopher, np i recall the parser for the control file not being very intelligent06:56
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yakumohello06:56
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jazzrockerhi06:56
POVaddctjuliano: btw, "folder" is windowsspeak, it's called "directory" in unix06:56
yakumois there any download accelerator for ubuntu???06:56
jazzrockerPOVaddct, iirc it's called "dir" in windows as well06:57
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jazzrockerPOVaddct, and regardless... they do usually mean the same thing06:57
snarferyakumo: Try Google.com/linux06:57
gh0sthelolo, how can i get the latest built of VLC for amd64?06:57
snarferAnd google for something06:57
snarferThat, or use wget06:57
gh0stcan i simply use the one for debian?06:58
jazzrockergh0st, usually you can try that yes, but there's no guarantee that simply installing a .deb will work if it's not for Ubuntu specifically06:58
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LjLyakumo: d4x, gwget, jigdo -- for Gnome programs06:59
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yakumoi have d4x06:59
LjLyakumo: from the console, axel is nice -- and wget is the most used downloader, though it's not really an "accelerator"06:59
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romalucai have this problem with upgrade ubuntu tu 6.10beta:Can't mark 'ubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.) How i can do?06:59
Jas-Nixhello, I have a ViewSonic monitor, and the only way to get it to work is to add a ModeLine to my xorg.conf, how can I do that with the livecd ?06:59
LjLyakumo: if you want to download a file from multiple servers concurrently, i suggest axel06:59
yakumohow do i continue my download??07:00
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nickspoonJas-Nix: try the Alternate Boot CD.07:00
magdahola07:00
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LjLyakumo: with wget? "-c" option07:00
yakumothnks il try it07:00
Jas-Nixnickspoon: ok so can't do it with livecd huh, the alternate requires a full install without being aable to try it out right ?07:00
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snarferI have a non-support question, but not so much as it is a question, than a statement.07:01
LjLyakumo: note that, like most programs, you can read a comprehensive reference for wget by typing "man wget"07:01
yakumois d4x allow you to continue your download?07:01
LjLyakumo: yes07:01
nickspoonJas-Nix: yeah.07:01
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LjLyakumo: not that i used it much, but it certainly does07:01
snarferI have to do a big year-long project at my school, so I h have decided to give students server-based services based on FOSS07:01
jazzrockerLjL, i'd hardly go so far as to call most man pages "comprehensive"07:01
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Paddy_EIREhow do i change permissions of directories I copied of my external hdd as root so that all file contained within them can be read and writtin to by me07:02
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LjLjazzrocker: well, the wget one is.07:02
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yakumobut i can't seem to open my d4x. its always crush everytime i open it07:02
snarferI have had nothing but positive output from Ubuntu, I think I will continue to use it for this project.07:02
jazzrockerLjL, fair'nuff07:02
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kurthi I just tried to add a printer true cups (as written in Ubuntu unleased)07:03
kurtbut he asked me the username and pasword07:04
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kurtbut don't have the root pwd07:04
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LjL!cups07:04
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:04
LjLkurt: CUPS access via the web is disabled07:04
frank95comhello07:04
kurtLjL: so the Ubuntu unleashed is wrong here?07:04
yakumoif i use the wget. where is the download file go?07:04
snarferCan Ubuntu print via samba?07:05
snarferIt should...07:05
LjLkurt: i dunno. you can enable it, of course. perhaps it is talking about an older version that has it enabled07:05
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LjLkurt: don't ask me how to get it enabled though, i don't know. i suppose it'll be somewhere in the links above07:05
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kurt:)07:05
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kurttnx for helping LjL07:05
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GNu_JoeHow to add more desktops on Gnome? I want 6 or 8 instead of the default 407:06
Juhazright click on the pager. properties07:07
jazzrockerright click on the pager07:07
GNu_JoeJuhaz: jazzrocker tried that did not work07:07
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jazzrockerGNu_Joe, then you're on crack07:08
GNu_JoeI'm also running compiz ( would that make a diffrence ? )07:08
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jazzrockeroh07:08
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GNu_Joeany ideas on how to google it?07:11
soundmaster80there should be a compiz manager for gnome that you can change it in07:11
soundmaster80at least i thought there was07:11
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sureshothere is a stupid question what is compiz07:13
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nickspoonGNu_Joe: system->preferences->compiz settings manager, choose the 'rotate cube' options and change the number of faces.07:13
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GNu_Joesureshot: it's a 3D desktop useing the GLX lib in X07:14
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GNu_Joenickspoon: let me try, I disabled the cube07:14
sureshotis it different than just plan gnome07:14
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nickspoonGNu_Joe: whoops, I mean 'general desktop'->virtual horizontal width.07:14
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GNu_Joesureshot: yes, it's all the eye candy that will go into the next version of OSX ( mac ) and Vista07:15
yakumoanyone know how to remove program. i try using add/remove program but the program i want to remove is not where to be found? pls07:15
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Descentionif im using the terminal, how can i show only as much as my window can hold at a time?  so it doesnt page through all the information before going too far up the screen?07:16
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junix-brin the dapper installation the wi-fi board is recognized and ndiswrapper (restricted module) is installed ?07:16
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GNu_Joenickspoon: THANKS! that was it07:16
nickspoonno problem :)07:17
junix-brsomebody knows?07:17
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erUSULDescention: use a pager such as less e.g. 'ls -al | less'07:17
GNu_Joenickspoon: whould not have though that setting was it... does it sound like a bug report?07:17
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sureshotis it difacult to instal xand use i have a ati mobility radeon 600 se with 128mb on board07:17
orbital04Hi, anyone familiar with Sound Recorder and the Rhythm Box music player? I have Ubuntu 6.007:17
DescentionerUSUL: thank you07:18
nickspoonGNu_Joe: I'd say yeah. Took me a bit of digging :)07:18
erUSULDescention: np07:18
GNu_Joesureshot: it's not that easy, BUT it is the easyest in Ubuntu though07:18
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sureshotthanks is it in the repos07:19
shriphaniwhen you got to install ati drivers it is easyubuntu07:19
shriphanipoint and click to install them07:19
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yakumohow do i reinstall program using apt-get install07:19
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GNu_Joesureshot: check-out => http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper07:20
erUSUL!easyubuntu07:20
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.07:20
HiP_PWanderer: how do i do that?07:20
shriphanithats the one07:20
abbi2b:)07:20
shriphaniyakumo, apt-get remove and then install it again07:20
orbital04My 'problem' is when I'm playing a radio stream with Rhythm Box and record it with Sound Recorder in 'capture' mode, I get an .ogg file that plays with no sound. Other ogg files seem to play alright. Any thoughts out there?07:20
yakumothnks07:21
shriphanithe deb you downloaded is saved07:21
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shriphaniso apt-get wont downoad the package again07:21
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shriphaninat/ibm eh07:22
shriphanicool07:22
dirk_whats the repositiry where i can download kernel-source or kernel-tre 2.6.15 ?07:22
dirk_is there some universal repo?07:23
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dirk_whats the repositiry where i can download kernel-source or kernel-tre 2.6.15 ?07:23
shriphanidirk_, isnt there a website ?07:23
sureshothow do you change what browser konversation opens up when you click on an url it opens opra what it to open firefox or mozilla07:23
dirk_which?07:23
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dirk_what website07:23
shriphanihttp://kernel.org/07:23
shriphanithats the website07:23
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dirk_ok, how do i use synaptik with it?07:24
kjmis there a codec to play music from an iPod that has been purchased from iTunes store?  Plays all my mp3's etc. fine, just not the crap DRM'ed things.07:24
shriphanidirk_, what ?07:24
StarkerI have recently installed Ubuntu.. The problem is its giving me hard time configuring the internet. I use Ethernet dsl modem... Its already installed and working with Ubuntu have checked every possible thing I could have applied my Isp setting too i.e Dns Ip blah blah... can anyone tell me what possibly the reason could be its not connecting to internet07:24
dirk_i want to apt-get the kernel source that corresponds my kernel image07:25
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shriphaniwell check it then and download the source from kernel.org07:25
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HiP_Pin fact how do i switch from alsa to oss as the sound deamon07:25
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kjmStarker : for some reason, sometimes when you use static settings, sometimes on reboot, DNS servers are cleared.  So, you are probably "connecting" just have no DNS configured.07:26
kjmStarker : I found some fixes through google, but haven't tried any of them, cause I rarely reboot.07:26
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shriphaniStarker, you entered the nameserver addresses in resolv.conf ?07:27
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HiP_P!alsa07:27
knappercan anyone tell me if there is such a thing has a kubuntu unstable repository? I'm looking for a repo that contains the unstable version of kwin-baghira.07:27
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems07:27
erUSULHiP_P: oss and alsa are not sound daemons they are sound driver framewoks for the kernel. newer kernels us alsa by default but with a copability oss layer so older apps (and skype) can work07:27
porkpieguy I am just trying to build a dell power edge with Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC they are not being detected07:27
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StarkerShriphani : now English please.. I dont understand this lingo ..I happen to a window user switched to Ubuntu yesterday :)07:28
HiP_Pahhh07:28
Starkerto be *07:28
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shriphanihmm i was just asking if you put the dns server addresses in resolv.conf07:28
HiP_Pso how do you switch over to oss because the sound card is list alsa only07:29
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kjmshripani : I take from his response - he didn't.  Starker - use your Administration->Network GUI.  Click on the "DNS" tab and enter the name server that is supplied by your ISP.07:29
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shriphanishriphani@ubuntu-box:/etc$ cat resolv.conf07:29
shriphaninameserver 203.187.192.1507:29
shriphaninameserver 192.168.1.107:29
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StarkerI dont know man what this resolv.conf actually is.. I used Adminitrator> netwrok to enter my configurations07:30
erUSULHiP_P: you can't07:30
shriphaniStarker, type cat /etc/resolv.conf07:30
HiP_Pah bum :(07:30
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kjmStarker : check this thread - it will fix the problem (if it is DNS).  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22500807:30
orbital04Hi, I have Ubuntu 6.0. When I try to record radio streams I'm listening to on Rhythm Box with Sound Recorder, I end up with an .ogg file that plays but there is no sound. Other .ogg files seem to play ok. Any thoughts out there?07:30
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shriphaniand paste the output here if it aint huge07:30
A[D] minSStarker:  resolv.conf DNS file07:30
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shriphanithat will help us know if the dns server addresses are actually there or not07:31
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sureshothow do you change what browser konversation opens up when you click on an url it opens opra what it to open firefox or mozilla07:31
HiP_Phmmm07:31
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erUSULHiP_P: however you can use oss apps becouse alsa sets up a comp. layer as i said07:31
shriphanisureshot, chane default browser to firefox07:31
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marshallhey guys07:32
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shriphanibut i dun use kde to dont bother asking how07:32
marshallhow does svn work?07:32
marshall!svn07:32
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/07:32
HiP_Pah but i think skype is using alsa07:32
shriphaniHiP_P, skype linux sucks07:32
erUSUL!skype07:32
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto07:32
A[D] minShow i can link /media/d/mp3/ to /vaw/www/mp3/ to axx it from my webserver ?07:32
shriphanito the core07:32
StarkerGuys I am currently on windows I'll have to reboot to use those commands.... Checking that thread Kjm suggested ...brb07:32
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marshallshriphani, agreed07:33
HiP_Pdone that still getting "no convo" error07:33
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kjmStarker : cool - good luck with it.07:33
orbital04ahhhhh, Windoze!!!07:33
shriphaniit says problem with sound device almost every time i play media on mine07:33
erUSULA[D] minS: 'man ln'07:33
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A[D] minSgood idea lol07:33
tekianI'm running Ubuntu on a dell inspiron e1705, using SigmaTel STAC9200 driver for audio. For some reaso, I can fine "Master Mono" which controls my subwoofer. Anyone able to help?07:33
HiP_Pill give it another shot07:34
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shriphaniA[D] minS, wouldnt that be ln -s blah blah blah blah07:34
piratepenguin!aiglx07:35
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.07:35
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godfatherguys...good evening07:36
snk0hi07:36
kjmhello there07:36
godfathera question for you07:36
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godfatheris it possible using Ekiga to call Skype users?07:36
snk0hi can anyone tell me whats the best way to try to autorecognize new devices in ubuntu server ?07:37
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tekianI'm running Ubuntu on a dell inspiron e1705, using SigmaTel STAC9200 driver for audio. For some reaso, I can fine "Master Mono" which controls my subwoofer. Anyone able to help?07:37
rraphink!flash07:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:37
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LeonWPhi07:38
difetawhere can I find out how to get jsp pages to run in apache?07:38
LeonWPis there a tool which tells me the write speed of a disk?07:38
erUSULsnk0: new devices are discovered by the kernel at boot time07:38
godfatherguys please helpme07:39
erUSULLeonWP: hdparm -t or/and -T /dev/hdx07:39
godfather!07:39
snk0is there a way to see which devices were recognized ?07:39
erUSULgodfather: no07:39
A[D] minSshriphani: sudo ln -t /media/d/Mp3/ mp3 done but when i open it from http i find it empty07:39
godfatherwhy not?07:39
erUSULsnk0: lspci list all pci devices07:39
snk0ok thanks07:39
shriphanilsusb for the usb ones07:39
erUSULgodfather: different protocols07:39
LeonWPerUSUL, doesn't that only tell me the read speed?07:39
godfatherso tell me the name of a programe tha uses skype protocol07:39
godfatherrunning on linux07:40
erUSULgodfather: skype07:40
erUSUL!skype07:40
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto07:40
shriphaniA[D] minS, i dont know about that07:40
tekian!subwoofer07:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about subwoofer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:40
PAK_013A[D] minS, try: sudo ln -s source [destination] 07:40
shriphanii just use ln to make a trash can in xubuntu07:40
HiP_P!socallife07:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about socallife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:40
tekian!mastermono07:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mastermono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:40
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HiP_Pknow the feeling07:40
snk0as i don't know anything of networking/linux, i would like a nice guide to tell me howto setup my ubuntu server as a router07:41
snk0i found a guide in the howto, but it's using webmin, and i want to do it entirely by commandline07:41
sureshoti know i am using fglrx or i think i am but when i type fglrxinfo i get no such comman ?????07:42
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HiP_Phmmm little bit closer07:42
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HiP_Pbut getting "/dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy"07:42
A[D] minSPAK_013: i did it but it empty :D07:42
A[D] minSthats mean i can't axx it :D07:42
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A[D] minSi did chmod +xor linkf07:43
tekian!alsa07:43
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems07:43
shriphaniHiP_P, i had the same probs07:43
hischamwhere can i see the temperatur of my CPU/mb/etc...?07:43
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shriphanii dont still know what the fark is /dev/dsp-107:43
HiP_Pyou sound card07:43
HiP_P*your07:43
shriphani/dev/dsp07:43
shriphanibut /dev/dsp-107:43
kurtisshi all, i'm installing ubuntu for the first time, and i'm sitting at the partition dialog (after choosing Next) with a busy mouse cursor and no progress indicator.  is this normal?  how long would this process take normally?07:44
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HiP_Pahhh you've pointed something out to me cheers07:44
tjbWill the next major release of Ubuntu include Xgl?07:44
Descentionif i were to restart my computer after adding a route, will the route be cleared?07:44
erUSULHiP_P: lsof /dev/dsp-1 to see who is using the device (iirc)07:44
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HiP_Pvsound is going for the wrong card by the looks of it07:45
hischamwhere can i see the temperature of my CPU/mb/etc...?07:45
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humehi... it seems that there is a lot of network traffic to and from my computer, that feels strange (shown by knetload) - is there a way to see what ports it comes from?07:45
lele_lele_7207:45
sureshoti know i am using fglrx or i think i am but when i type fglrxinfo i get no such command ?????07:46
erUSULhischam: lm-sensors, sensors07:46
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justthisguyhischam: if you have the necessary hardware, try out gkrellm and some  of the plugins it has07:46
lele_ciao a tutti quelli che ci sono ;qua si parla in italiano?07:46
erUSULhume: man netstat07:46
erUSUL!it07:46
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:46
humeerUSUL, command line tool?07:46
hischamok thanks07:46
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lele_ok grazie07:46
erUSULhume: yes07:46
porkpieguys I am just trying to build a dell power edge with Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC they are not being detected07:47
wetduckWhat is an oem account?07:47
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trappistsureshot: I think fglrxinfo is deprecated.  not sure about that though.07:47
humeerUSUL, seems that there is one package netstat-nat - is that it?07:47
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trappistporkpie: google might be useful there, to tell you what driver (if any) is used for that07:48
sureshotok trappist thanks can you give me the comman to look at my xconf file using nano07:48
trappistporkpie: that would be step one07:48
trappistsureshot: sudoedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:48
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raperahola07:48
dirk_guys07:48
sureshotthanks man07:48
raperaey,ke tal?07:48
wetduckHow do I access my oem account?07:48
dirk_i need a source.list file07:48
erUSULhume: it should be instaled07:48
dirk_that has universal repos07:48
porkpietrappist:I don'r know ...this is a brand new server  ....07:48
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erUSULhume: it comes in net-tools07:49
trappistporkpie: I mean look up the broadcom device07:49
dirk_can you send iy to me?07:49
dirk_can you send it to me?07:49
porkpieOK07:49
humeerUSUL, right. found it now07:49
HiP_Pahhhh07:49
raperaespaol please!!07:49
HiP_Pgetting closer07:49
justthisguydirk_: if you have gnome defaultly installed, you can make one easily with software properties07:49
dirk_i need a source.list file07:49
rapera07:49
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DigitalNinjaDoes any know if cryptsetup and LUKS format can be used to encrypt the "root" file system?07:49
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RezWarning: `rapera' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.07:49
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trappistrapera: cut it out.07:49
trappistawesome07:49
dirk_i need kernel-sources 2.6.1507:50
trappist<3 freenode07:50
dirk_plz07:50
shriphanidirk_, source-o-matic07:50
trappistdirk_: what for?07:50
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shriphaniand kernel.rg has the source07:50
dirk_-shriphani-: whats sourcomatic?07:50
shriphanikernel.org07:50
dirk_wtf07:50
dirk_i need a source.list file07:50
humeerUSUL, there seems to be a lot of "active UNIX domain sockets" - are they just local or can they be malign?07:50
shriphanidirk_, a ubuntu sources.list generator07:50
sureshotguess i am not using fglrx it says ati.. how to chang if i change the driver to fglrx and dont have it x wont work may i ask how to change it07:50
dirk_so also can get other stuff07:50
bbrazil!easysource07:51
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:51
bbrazilhume: local07:51
justthisguydirk, and software properties can do it too, with quite a lot of control07:51
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justthisguybut take your pick07:51
trappistsureshot: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and change 'ati' to 'fglrx' in your xorg config07:51
trappist!ati07:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:52
sureshottrappist you the man thanks again07:52
erUSULhume: use 'netstat -inet -pn'07:52
trappistsureshot: check that out07:52
erUSULdirk_: install linux-source07:52
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humeerUSUL, but that just shows me the interfaces?07:53
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tjbDoes Edgy contain Xgl?07:53
wetduckHow do I access my oem account?07:53
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trappistwetduck: what *is* an oem account.07:54
erUSULhume: is 'netstat --inet -pn' sorry07:54
sureshottrappist ok man thanks07:54
humeok07:54
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wetducktrappist, after installing Ubuntu the only account avaiable is an oem account. I mean the last version. Do you have last version Ubuntu?07:54
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erUSULwetduck: only if you install in oem mode. and you only do that if you have a good reason07:56
erUSUL!oem07:56
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dj_baggio!aiglx07:56
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.07:56
xplic1tcan i upgrade dapper's php5 from 5.1.2 to 5.1.6?07:56
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xplic1tusing the tar.gz from php.net?07:56
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erUSULxplic1t: no07:56
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erUSULxplic1t: do you really need the latest version??07:57
xplic1ti just need to recompile it to support xslt07:57
trappistwetduck: I still don't know what you mean by oem07:57
bignose_so.. i just changed my hostname using sudo hostname, and toally buggered sudo ;) now i can't sudo to edit my hosts files and keep getting this error sudo: unable to lookup zim via gethostbyname()07:57
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trappistwetduck: do you mean the account you set up during installation?07:57
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D-Man`anyone running ubuntu and osx dual boot ?07:58
porkpie1can some tell me what the server channel is called07:58
linuxboyfriendhi all07:58
miranda82hello everyone07:58
linuxboyfriendis it possible to install ichat in ubuntu?07:58
wetduckerUSUL, Ok, I did that, don't know why, and I worked in it per almoust a week. Today I decided to start my *official* account and all folders I used to have in /Desktop are gonne. Do you have any idea about there it could be?07:58
miranda82does anyone know if it's possible to allow desktop scaling in vncserver?07:58
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erUSULtrappist: if you install in oem mode you do not get asked for username/password and instead an oem/oem accaunt is created to set up the system07:59
kurtissman, the ubuntu installer's partition manager just fscked me07:59
arcadeerUSUL: Hmpfh.  I'm kind of embarrassed.  I finally found out why that machine I had problems with yesterday, failed.07:59
justthisguywetduck: your original files should be in /home/<oemusername> ?07:59
Dr_Willismiranda82,  differnet vncviewers have different features.. ive seen some for windows that allow that.. i think the kde vncviewer does also07:59
miranda82Dr_Willis, thx, i'm looking in the man page but i can't find it...07:59
porkpie1trappist:what information do you need to know about this Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC08:00
erUSULwetduck: you used the oem accaunt untill today? and now created a new user and you are using it. the files you created so far are still afaics in the oem home folder08:00
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wetduckerUSUL, yes, more or lass like that.08:00
porkpie1trappist:there is a redhat and suse driver for this ...08:00
brett_hEr, can anyone help me find 'gzcat' --- Doesn't seem to be provided by anything I can find...08:00
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justthisguybrett_h: can less do something like that?08:01
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erUSULwetduck: as i said the files must be in the oem home folder08:01
wetduckerUSUL, in fact I dont need to create a new account but access my acount.08:01
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wetduckThe thing is I have no /home/oem08:01
B4L1STACan anyone help me with installing from my USB thumb drive?08:01
brett_hjustthisguy: But I don't want a pager, I want a pipe08:01
wetduckI just have /home/wetduck08:01
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shriphanibrett_h, is that an app08:01
brett_hshriphani: Yes08:01
miranda82Dr_Willis, do u know another server i could use to do it?08:01
erUSULwetduck: make a search in the whole system for the files they must be somewhere08:02
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Dr_Willismiranda82,  its not a server thing.. its a vnc client thing.. i think08:02
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Rookie-!alsa08:02
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems08:02
wetduckerUSUL, I did that. Nothing found in the hole system.08:02
DiLupoevening08:02
justthisguybrett_h: I thought less could do pipes, but maybe not08:02
miranda82Dr_Willis, nah, cuz my client (in the palm) has desktop scaling options08:02
Dr_Willismiranda82,  ive used Ultravnc on windows and had all sorts of neat vncviewer options/scaling/modes/tweaks08:02
shriphanibrett_h, apt-cache search gzcat08:02
M_A_KTwice I have installed kubuntu and both times after restart i get "Boot Sector Invalid".  What can I do?08:02
Dr_Willismiranda82,  Palm? Ick!08:02
miranda82Dr_Willis, yeah, but i do not want windows...08:03
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erUSULwetduck: i've never set up a oem install so i do not know what may have happened maybe when you created the new user the oem accaunt got deleted....08:03
wetduckerUSUL, maybe the only way to access those is login as oem, but that doesn't work anymore tha way it used to work before I activate this account I am in now.08:03
miranda82Dr_Willis, what's wrong with palm?08:03
B4L1STAMAK, did you install LILO or grub?08:03
M_A_KI am guessing grub (default install).  Never got an option.08:03
DiLupoanyone have exp with Atheros WIFI devices under Ubuntu?08:04
Dr_Willismiranda82,  for a vncviewer - egads...08:04
Dr_Willismiranda82,  You gotbetter eyes then I do..08:04
miranda82Dr_Willis, sorry?08:04
Dr_WillisLol.08:04
B4L1STAAll I can say is that i'd go throuhg the install in expert mode, it gives you more options on installing the bootloader08:04
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B4L1STAi dunno though08:04
porkpie1trappist:14e4164c  Yes  Broadcom Corporation  NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet  bnx2     this is from the debian hcl08:05
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shriphaniB4L1STA, the dapper install is graphial08:05
miranda82Dr_Willis, sorry... i'm lost...08:05
xplic1tI used apt-get install sablotron.   how can I configure php to recognize it?08:05
justthisguybrett_h: I have a gzcat on my system, its a perl program from libcompress-zlib-perl, though08:05
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porkpie1trappist:any idea where I get the driver for ubuntu08:05
B4L1STAbut you get an option for "expert" when you first boot08:05
shriphaniB4L1STA, no08:05
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shriphaniits just a live cd08:05
thenakedcowboyhey does anyone know a good way to convert mp3 files using hoary ubuntu?08:06
erUSULwetduck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview have you runned 'sudo oem-config-prepare'?? becouse that deletes the oem account08:06
shriphanior wait08:06
B4L1STAeven on the live CD though08:06
shriphanithere is Start Or  Install Ubuntu first08:06
Jas-Nixcan anyone tell me what "install in oem mode" means ?08:06
M_A_KSo what can I do?  Is there a way to correct it?08:06
B4L1STAwhen you first put it in you have bootime parameters...08:06
shriphaniB4L1STA, i think y are right08:06
wetduckerUSUL, yes I run 'sudo oem-config-prepare'08:06
erUSULJas-Nix:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview08:06
DiLupoconvert mp3 files to what?08:06
B4L1STAI'm not completely sure, but it sounds like the bootloader isnt getting installer properly08:07
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jman8888Is there any good games to play in Cedega?08:07
Jas-Nixcool thanx08:07
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xamoxalright I just setup ubuntu server08:07
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xamoxand have done a: apt-get update08:07
B4L1STASo can anyone help me install from a USB thumb drive?08:07
erUSULwetduck: then as the wiki page says the oem account get deleted and your files probably are gone :( sorry08:07
xamoxthen apt-get -y install links08:07
xamoxand it wants the cd-rom drive08:07
thenakedcowboyconvert them to .wav08:07
xamoxbut I want it to grab it from the net08:07
xamoxwhat do I have to do?08:07
M_A_KB4L1STA : so how do I correct this?08:07
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shriphanixamox, what did sudo apt-get update show up on the screen ?08:08
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DiLupowhy would you want to do that?08:08
HiP_Panyways ---- cheers all catch ya later08:08
xamoxDiLupo, me?08:08
B4L1STAMAK: i'm not completely sure but just try going back through the install process in expert mode, maybe try using LILO instead of GRUB, but that's just a guess i'm not sure it will work08:08
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M_A_KHow do I use expert mode?08:08
xamoxdo I have manually specify my sources in apt-get to use the net instead of my cd-rom?08:09
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B4L1STAwhen it firsts boots the CD there's a prompt and you would normally just hit enter, but instead type 'expert' and then hit enter08:09
DiLupono, the converting MP3 to WAV, why would you want to do that? convert to Ogg, yup, to WAV, why?08:09
M_A_KI will try.  Thanks08:09
wetduckerUSUL, My lord I used to have important stuff there. Is there a way to log as root in Ubuntu?08:09
sureshot!ati08:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:09
B4L1STAxamox, try editing /etc/apt/sources.list08:09
wetduck!oem08:10
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:10
shriphanixamox, uncomment the sources08:10
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erUSULwetduck: 'sudo -i' gives you a root shell but i'm afraid that will not be of much help...08:10
thenakedcowboywell what is a good way to convert them to ogg? or is there an mp3 player available? i just installed ubuntu last night, i dont know an awful lot about it08:10
shriphaniwetduck isnt there a rescue mode or something08:10
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jman8888thenakedcowboy: amarok08:11
DiLupoxmms is a good MP3 player08:11
shriphanithenakedcowboy, soundconverter08:11
wetduckerUSUL, yes, I am not trying to recover that files through that. I just want to open some extra painesl that an oem account have.08:11
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bsdfoxI like amarok08:11
jman8888!mp3 > thenakedcowboy08:11
shriphanito convert them to ogg08:11
erUSULwetduck:  apt-cache search undelete try this utilities i've never done so myself but may be the only thing you can do08:11
xamoxdon't you need kde libs for Amarok?08:11
justthisguyDiLupo: beep-media-player is an updated version of xmms08:11
wetduckshriphani, yes. I think that there is a rescue from install cd.08:11
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justthisguyits pretty good08:11
xamoxwetduck, sudo -s08:11
jman8888xamox: No..08:11
xamoxwetduck, will give you root08:11
shriphanijman8888, amarok will take like 80 mb of download on gnome08:12
justthisguysudo su <-- easier to remember08:12
orbital04Hi, anyone handy with Sound Recorder?08:12
DiLupoanyway, you don't need Qt or GTK to install XMMS08:12
B4L1STACan anyone help me install from my USB drive?08:12
justthisguyDiLupo: true08:12
xamoxyeah, xmms seems more lightweight08:12
SpudDogghello all08:12
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DiLupoand if it's just MP3's you want to listen to...08:12
jman8888How can i convert OOG -> Mp3?08:13
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Dr_Willisjman8888,  i googled one and found a few scripts that doiot.08:13
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DiLupoyou prob need OGG tools and codec08:13
wetduckok guys thank you!08:13
Dr_Willisjman8888,  the quality can sort of suck.08:13
justthisguyjman8888: lame for cli, or gstreamer for something a bit more graphical08:13
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jman8888Dr_Willis: Well i cant play oog's on my mp3 player.08:13
wetduck!oem08:14
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:14
xplic1tI'm trying to run ./configure for php in (/usr/share/php), is this the right place?  i'm not having any luck.08:14
foureight84is anyone here using conky with compiz?08:14
jman8888Dr_Willis: Should i rerip my cd's to LAME? (Or lossless or whatever.)08:14
psycosehi do you have good docs on installing ubuntu on sun blade 150 ? i have not find lot of inforation on google thanks08:14
DiLupothan stick to MP3, don't convert unless you have to...08:14
justthisguyDr_Willis: theres a lot to read up on the lame man page, you can get really good mp3s at low sizes08:14
DiLupoEvery time you convert, you lose a bit of quality08:14
wetduck!oem overview08:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oem overview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
B4L1STAYou'll lose quality going from compressed format to compressed format, so I would rerip.08:14
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foureight84when i have on_window set to no, conky doesn't show up when compiz loads08:14
Dr_Willisjustthisguy,  but the act ofgoing from ogg tomp3 can be the issue08:14
xamoxwhat is better links or lynx?08:15
foureight84how do i do a delay boot for conky>08:15
Dr_Willisjman8888,  that would give the best sound.08:15
Focuzhi all!08:15
jman8888DiLupo: Im ok with that. Just how do i.08:15
justthisguyxamox: elinks08:15
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miranda82Dr_Willis, i tried kde server08:15
B4L1STAFor the love of god, can anyone here help me install from my USB drive?08:15
xamoxjustthisguy, alright I installed elinks but seems to be qwirky08:15
miranda82Dr_Willis, but when i chose scaling, i got connection closed08:15
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Grom123bonsoir !08:15
Dr_Willismiranda82,  when you chose scaling onthe Palm It loses connection?08:16
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miranda82yes08:16
jman8888Dr_Willis: Dr_Willis But how do i convert?08:16
DiLupoB4L1STA> I'm a Pastafarian, don't believe in God's love... What are you trying to install08:16
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Dr_Willisjman8888,  i found a script on google that used the other commands lame and so forth to convert them08:16
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grodiusCan someone tell me how to install flash9 for ubuntu08:16
miranda82grodius, there is no flash 908:16
jman8888grodius: Doesnt exist.08:16
Dr_Willismiranda82,  that sounds like a palm client issue. not a vnc server issue08:16
B4L1STAI'm trying to install Dapper from my USB thumb drive, but i'm having all sorts of troubles08:16
jman8888grodius: :(08:17
scarabatworki am trying to get postfix running on my ubunt server box.  Wehn i start the serer, i get an error: " fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use".  when i do a netstat, i find that exim4 (a package that does not show to be installed) is using the port.08:17
miranda82grodius, we're still at 708:17
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mataharihi08:17
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scarabatworkcan anyone give me a clue as to why this is happening?08:17
jman8888B4 My ubuntus using 10Gigs.08:17
spiekeyhello!08:17
miranda82Dr_Willis, i'm gonna check the website then..08:17
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mataharii wanted to ask: how can i use scp as root on a ubuntu box?08:17
jman8888B4L1STA: I thought a thumb drive will work.08:17
DiLupoB4L1STA> Does the bios of the machine support booting from USB?08:17
spiekeyi can send mails via smtp auth by using ~/.mailrc and ~/.msmtprc08:17
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spiekeycan i set this up globally, too?08:17
spiekeyfor all outgoing system mails?08:17
B4L1STADiLupo, yes it does.  I can boot the Breezy Badger image, but when I follow the same process for Dapper it doesn't work!08:18
Paddy_EIREanyone know how I can change permissions of a Directory all sub-directories and files contained within08:18
jribPaddy_EIRE: chmod -R08:18
miranda82Dr_Willis, it a server problem "The server you are using does not support server-side scaling."08:18
fyrestrtrscarabatwork: well its simple, exim is running :)08:18
xplic1twhere do i run ./configure for php?08:19
Dr_Willismiranda82,  thisis the first id ever heard of 'server side scaleing' then.08:19
fyrestrtrxplic1t: php is available in repos.08:19
DiLupoB4> to be honest, Dapper failed on my machine as well... went for Edgy08:19
miranda82Dr_Willis, lol, there is always a first time 4 everything ;)08:19
fyrestrtrxplic1t: you don't need to compile it.08:19
xplic1tright, but i need to ./configure --with-xslt08:19
xamoxif I do a apt-get install fluxbox?08:19
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Dr_Willismiranda82,  check out the vnc4server perhaps08:19
scarabatworkactually... no its isn't.  at least, it doesn't show up anywhere else on my system as running :)08:19
Paddy_EIREjrib: e.g. "sudo chmod -r /directory_containing_everything"08:19
Dr_Willismiranda82,  its a little more tweaked08:19
xamoxhow do I run it after its installed?08:19
thenakedcowboyok so i downloaded the package (beep media player) how do i install it?08:20
Dr_Willisxamox,  on the gdm screen should be a session entry for it08:20
justthisguyxamox: man xinit08:20
miranda82Dr_Willis, apt-getting08:20
xamoxDr_Willis, no GDM, used Ubuntu server08:20
B4L1STAdilupo, okay so here's the next part of the problem: when I try installing from Breezy, i get into the installer fine, it finds the ISO on my harddrive, mount it, but then can't access it.08:20
Dr_Willis!info beep-media-player08:20
ubotubeep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB08:20
fyrestrtrxplic1t: there is php4-xslt and php5-xsl pick the one for your version, and install it.08:20
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Dr_Willisthenakedcowboy,  why not just 'sudo apt-get install' the thing ?08:20
Paddy_EIREjrib: is that correct08:20
Rick-ukHi - can anyone tell me howto get BBC news / video going - it keeps asking for realplayer but I belive there is a way of getting it to work with mplayer?08:20
jribPaddy_EIRE: no, that won't do what you want.  capital -R is needed, and you need a permission to set.  So: chmod -R 777 /path/to/foo  for example.  This is usually a bad idea to do and if you do it in the wrong locatino, you can break your box.  What are you chmod'ing that you need sudo?08:21
fyrestrtrRick-uk: you need the mplayer browser plugin.08:21
justthisguyxamox: you need to mofify your xinitrc08:21
DiLupobrb08:21
xamoxjustthisguy, what if I don't want it to start by default?08:21
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xplic1tthank you fyrestrtr, this has taken an embarrassingly long time to resolve08:21
Rick-ukhow do |I get that? sorry - very new to Unix08:21
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xamoxjustthisguy, isn't there just some startflux or something?08:21
justthisguyxamox: that depends on the runlevel you boot into08:21
xamoxjustthisguy, runlvl 308:21
thenakedcowboyDr. willis: how do i do that? im new at this?08:22
justthisguywhat you put into your xinitrc is exec startfluxbox at the end, iirc08:22
Dr_Willislast i tried fluxbox - it put a Entry in the GDM session list - if not -  make one for it.08:22
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justthisguyxamox: I think it needs to be runlevel 2 to stay in console automatically08:22
Dr_Willisthenakedcowboy,  fire up synaptic and search for it or read up on the apt-get system  , sudo apt-get install WHATEVER08:22
Dr_Willisthenakedcowboy,  and the package name is 'beep-media-player' it seems08:22
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Paddy_EIREjrib I mounted an external hdd but could only access at the time as root so i used "gksudo nautilus" to get my old windows files(music,pics and the like) although when I copied them to "my" home directory they are still only readable/writable by root08:23
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miranda82Dr_Willis, just got X11 and, again no scaling (connection lost... :S)08:23
xamoxanyone know what apt-get source I need to get fluxbox?08:23
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: you need to chown the files to your user and group, then chmod them to 75508:23
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sureshothay i followed the !ati on how to install the fglrx driver it says it is using the fglrx driver in the xconf but when i do fglrxinfo it says mesa what am i doing wrong08:23
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Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: err08:24
fyrestrtrsureshot: are you running xgl?08:24
justthisguyxamox: should be by default. perhaps universe?08:24
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sureshotit say so but with mesa instad of fglrx08:24
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miranda82Dr_Willis, i will try x11vnc, thx08:24
akemihow can I get ahold of the dmesg when I'm booting the ubuntu desktop live cd .. it hangs just after attaching to an sda device... and I cant see the whole dmesg08:24
Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: what is chown and what is the number 755 all baout08:24
Paddy_EIRE*about08:24
jribPaddy_EIRE: I see, that's ok then.  Just making sure we weren't going to have another case of a chmod -R on /etc :)08:25
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Paddy_EIREk, :)08:25
tdnWhich kernel should I install linux-686 or linux-686-smp if I have an IBM Thinkpad with Intel Pentium M?08:25
sureshotis sys renderer string mesa glx08:25
Dr_Willismiranda82,  that one is a very odd vncserver. :P08:25
tdnIs it true that I need SMP support if I want cpu frequency scaling?08:26
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: chown is 'change owner' -- it changes ownership of files. When you copied them as root, they are owned by root (which is why you can't access them as your normal user). chmod is 'change mode' which is akin to changing permissions. 755 are good permissions for the files in your home directory.08:26
Dr_Willismiranda82,  there may be some vncserver option to enable that feature. checkthe vncserver script perhaps08:26
xamoxjustthisguy, ahh thx, I didn't have universe source uncommented in my source list08:26
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miranda82Dr_Willis, yeah, that is what i try... but... no luck... can't find anything08:26
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Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: nice one :)08:26
justthisguytdn: depends if you have one or more processors08:26
dyn-afktdn the 686 kernel works fine08:26
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robert_tdn: Pentium suxxx0rz08:26
justthisguyif you have more than one you want the smp08:26
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tdnjustthisguy, well.. I don't. But I think that there is something that I will need SMP for... Something that depends on it?08:27
dyn-afktdn there's no need for the smp kernel if you want cpu freq. scaling, it does that by default :)08:27
Paddy_EIREjrib: is "sudo" still required i take it08:27
tdnrobert_, trolls sucks too, you know.08:27
dyn-afk:P08:27
akemiwhen I boot the live cd .. it gets stuck half way.. how do I get ahold of the entire dmesg file? given that only some of it is visible on my screen?08:27
tdndyn-afk, ok. Thanks.08:27
dyn-afkpentium m is one of the best procs :)08:27
robert_tdn: indeed :P08:27
jribPaddy_EIRE: yes, since your files are owned by root08:27
dyn-afkbetter then the AMD equivalent though08:27
Paddy_EIREk08:28
robert_tdn: I prefer AMD to Intel08:28
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: yes -- not because your files are owned by root, but because chown can only be run by root :)08:28
justthisguyakemi: run dmesg | less or use shift+pageup keys08:28
xamoxanyone know if ubuntu has mysql administrator (the GUI version) in it's package list?08:28
wwwdotcomI was able to get ubuntu loaded on a powerpc, and I was wondering if there were any existing things when the desktop loads that don't need to be loaded and how to disable them08:28
akemijust .. thanks a bunch :)08:28
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Dr_Williswwwdotcom,  the default ubuntuinstall is rather slim08:28
ebelEh? darcs (a version control tool) is in the universe repository according to: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/devel/darcs, but when I do "sudo aptitude search darcs" nothing is found08:28
justthisguyxamox: yeah I think its called mysql-admin08:29
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Dr_Williswwwdotcom,  you could switch to a lighter window manager if you want to really save on cpu/memory08:29
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wwwdotcomDr, you mean theme?08:29
justthisguyand theres another program mysqladmin, which is confusing :)08:29
ebel.. and I have the universe repository added and I've aptitude update-ed.08:29
kurtHi08:29
Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: Is there anything that I could/should add to this "sudo chown /home/patrick/externalhddfiles"08:29
xamoxjustthisguy, yeah there is the console version and the GUI version08:29
kurtcan somebody help me with installing my DCP 110 brother printer08:29
dyn-afkebel try searching for that darcs package08:30
robert_bah, I still get "missing package name"08:30
dyn-afkthe name might be slightly different08:30
jmitchjCould someone help me with the use of the normalize-mp3 command, in order rto convert MP3 to OGG...it seems to require to encoders and decoders...how do i get those?08:30
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fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: yeah, username and group, as the way you have written is not with proper syntax.08:30
dyn-afksudo apt-cache search darcs << try that in a terminal ebel08:30
ebeldyn-afk, no, I get nothing returned.08:30
xamoxif I just installed ubuntu server, and fluxbox, it's complaining I need Xserver, so do I do an apt-get install Xorg or x11?08:30
wetduckbrb08:30
Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: how should it look, I have no idea08:30
robert_"dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `php4-4.4.2/DEBIAN/control' near line 9:missing package name" <-- bah08:30
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: sudo chown -R patrick:patrick /home/patrick/externalhddfiles08:30
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Paddy_EIREnice one08:31
ebeldyn-afk, I assume apt-cache search is the same as aptitude search, right?08:31
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justthisguyjmitchj: youre probably better off googling for a tutorial, but try gstreamer and it's plugins. You can get a nice graphical interface for it too08:31
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Rick-ukOK I have the mplayer plugin .tar.gz - now what do I do?08:31
wwwdotcomjmitchj, try this program http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html08:31
bsdfoxhow can I get mencoder to not mess with the resolution at all (it's squishing widescreens into 4:3 full height)08:31
fyrestrtrRick-uk: you can get the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:32
justthisguyxamox: choose, I think. I think ubuntu uses xorg by default, so you might want to go with that one ( ie better support)08:32
jmitchjthanks08:32
Rick-ukthanks - I'll try that then08:32
dyn-afk<ebel> dyn-afk, I assume apt-cache search is the same as aptitude search, right? << could be, I don't use aptitude08:32
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robert_blaaaah, how do I compile a debian package from source?08:33
ebeldyn-afk, Hmm, anyway no luck with apt-cache anyway.08:33
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dyn-afkit's just a command to search throught the apt repository cache, so if aptitude search does the same thing...08:33
justthisguyrobert_: checkinstall08:33
mjo-ukI have a mysql question: has anyone built a Ubuntu compatible .deb of a mysqld more recent that 5.0.21-3 ?08:33
fyrestrtrebel: what are you trying to find?08:33
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justthisguyrobert_: make normally, then run it instead of make install08:33
dyn-afkhe is looking for darcs fyrestrtr08:33
wwwdotcomjm, sorry, doesn't look like ogg is supported08:33
fyrestrtr!info darcs08:33
ubotudarcs: an advanced revision control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-3 (dapper), package size 1053 kB, installed size 3280 kB08:33
wwwdotcomisn't I mean08:33
dyn-afkhe could try subversion (which is called svn mostly) instead of darcs though08:33
ebelHang on, looks like there's some trouble updating the universe repo.08:33
fyrestrtrenable universe, hit apt-get update, then apt-get install darcs08:33
tekutoi haven't sound on my 6.06lts. who can help? (private)08:33
ebelMD5sum mismatch.08:34
Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: is this next and where does the 755 go sry "sudo chmod -r patrick:patrick /home/patrick/externalhddfiles"08:34
dyn-afkthat doesn't work for him fyrestrtr08:34
justthisguy!info checkinstall >> robert_08:34
ubotucheckinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB08:34
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fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: no "sudo chmod -R 755 /home/patrick/externalhddfiles/08:34
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Paddy_EIREok, Im a total cli idiot08:35
clustyhey08:35
clustywas wondering if any of you guys are using the IFS ext3 driver for windows to read/write to linux partitions08:35
wall0159hiya. I'm wanting to run a script in cron as root, but it involves pinging a university server so I want to get it right! ;-) I'm planning to run:08:35
wall0159#sudo crontab -e08:35
wall0159and adding a line08:35
wall0159*/12 * * * * script.sh08:35
wall0159which I think will run the script every 12 minutes. Is this right?08:35
clustyi am getting some weird behaviours sometimes after I write with windows: ubuntu start to check partition for consistancy08:36
Dr_Willisclusty,  i use that all the time08:36
mjo-ukwall0159, why does it have to be done as root ?08:36
jmitchjwwwdotcom: was that Super product for linux?...it seems like it's a windows based product?08:36
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fyrestrtrwall0159: no, its not. [1]  use a pastebin when you are pasting to the channel. [2]  give the full path to the script, make sure its executable.08:36
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Dr_Willisclusty,  if windows crashes the linux partitions are marked as needing tobe checked from what ive sen08:36
wall0159mjo-uk: I need sudo, because it will call vpnc08:37
clustyDr_Willis, any corruption danger there?08:37
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dyn-afkclusty that IFS EXT2 (not 3) drivers works nice, it also works for ext3 beause that simply is ext2 with a journal08:37
wall0159fyrestrtr: apologies - I don't know about pastebin - I'll check it out.08:37
Dr_Willisnot that ive se08:37
Dr_Willisseen08:37
Dr_Willis:P08:37
pwkHello08:37
dyn-afkthe driver however does not do anything with the permissions of a file08:37
pwkanybody her use skype ?08:37
fyrestrtr!pastebin > wall015908:37
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dyn-afkpwk has sound problems with skype ?08:38
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clustydyn-afk, dont really care about permission. I would really like the driver to update the journaling info08:38
pwki can only get it to call in my location, canada08:38
pwkwith free calling08:38
pwki thoguht it was free long distance anywhere08:38
dyn-afkit doesn't do that clusty because it doesn't have journaling support08:38
fyrestrtrno, only in the US and Canada.08:38
spiekeyis there a mass deployment and patch project?08:39
wall0159fyrestrtr: but yes.. I'll provide the full path, and ensure that the script has correct permissions.08:39
dyn-afkit's because ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2 that makes the IFS driver work for ext308:39
jmitchjis wwwdotcom still here?08:39
pwkis there anyother where i can get everyewhere for free ?08:39
spiekeyi dont want to log into 20 boxes via ssh all the time and run upgrade08:39
fyrestrtrpwk: no, because calls cost money :)08:39
robert_yo, fyrestrtr08:39
justthisguy!seen wwwdotcom08:39
ubotuwwwdotcom is on IRC right now!08:39
tekutocan someone help with sound? (private)08:39
clustydyn-afk, ohhh well. checking 400GB ext2 kinda sux :(08:39
pwklike call from canada to lebanon ?08:40
dyn-afklol @ clusty08:40
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fyrestrtrpwk: yeah, you need to pay for that.08:40
xamoxspiekey, setup each machien to update with cron08:40
unit41where can I get libasound from ? for 6408:40
pwkok08:40
dyn-afkyou can use ext3 checking tools in ubuntu clusty08:40
dyn-afkwhy not use those?08:40
pwkwould there be anyother way to commuicate like throyugh the net ?08:40
clustydyn-afk, e2fsck?08:40
spiekeyxamox: but then i might miss out upgrade failures and errors08:40
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jmitchjanyone else heard of that erightsoft, Super program?08:41
fyrestrtrpwk: if the other person has skype, just use computer-to-computer voice chat.08:41
dyn-afkspiekey wants something like WSUS like windows has but for ubuntu ?08:41
robert_fyrestrtr: I'm still getting that "missing package name" when I run 'dpkg -b php4-4.4.2'08:41
pwkOh08:41
dyn-afkclusty yes those tools08:41
xamoxspiekey, you could have it e-mail you if it errors out.08:41
spiekeyit should not be automatic, but still be practical.08:41
pwkhow i setup computer to computer vioce chat ?08:41
apecathmm, the vmware workstation installer asks me this: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running08:41
fyrestrtr!info php408:41
ubotuphp4: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-1build1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB08:41
apecatkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 08:41
dyn-afkhit man e2fsck, there are certain options for the tools so it will check ext3 and not ext208:41
clustydyn-afk, thanx for help08:41
fyrestrtrrobert_: sudo apt-get install php408:41
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apecatwhat shoudl i answer, the default location doesn't exist on my ubuntu dapper08:41
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dyn-afknp clusty, good luck :)08:41
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dyn-afkapecat did you install your kernel headers ?08:42
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dyn-afkyuo'll need those08:42
apecathm, k08:42
dyn-afkand you need to install checkinstall too08:43
ladydoorapecat: you need to install linux-headers-(yourarchtype) (so if you've got x386, do linux-headers-386, for 686 linux-headers-686, for k7 linux-headers-k7, etc.)08:43
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apecatyup08:43
dyn-afkwiki.ubuntu.com has a nice article about vmware workstation btw08:43
dyn-afkdo a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for vmware08:43
dyn-afkit'll tell you what you need exactly08:43
apecatokays, iThankyou08:44
robert_er, wtf08:44
dyn-afkyw08:44
robert_/usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 86: syntax error: unexpected end of fil08:44
robert_/usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 86: syntax error: unexpected end of file08:44
dyn-afkbtw, the installation of workstation is almost the same as the one for vmware server08:44
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pwk952 pepoles wow.. big communirty08:45
dyn-afk:P08:46
wetduckI am having problem with sudo. If I type sudo on terminal the following line apears: wetduck is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. Does anybody have an idea about what could be possibly hapening please?08:46
dyn-afkand that's just ubuntu pwk :P08:46
justthisguypwk: and then theres efnet, and all the other servers08:46
pwki really want to use linux08:46
fyrestrtrwetduck: add yourself to the 'admin' group.08:46
dyn-afkwhat other users are on your machine wetduck ?08:46
orion2012wetduck: are you in the admin group?08:46
pwki thoughth there was a version of linux that was like windows08:46
wetduckAnd besides when I try to run a Share folder command the following line apears: Failed to run shares-admin --add-share=/home/wetduck/Desktop/Shared08:46
wetduckThe underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.08:46
justthisguypwk: its called winspire or something I think08:47
unit41whats my root pw ?08:47
wetduckI don't think I am in admin group.08:47
fyrestrtr!root > unit4108:47
pwkis unbuntu the best linux version ?08:47
dyn-afk<pwk> i thoughth there was a version of linux that was like windows << that's like saying there is a guy that's like a girl both mentally als physically :X08:47
wetduckHow do I create an admin group?08:47
lincsiehi! I have problems with the ATI fglrx driver, can anyone help me ? Specifically, I installed the driver, I've the fglrx kernel module loaded and in the Device Section of xorg.conf it uses the "fglrx" driver. However, I do not have direct rendering, the error is "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"". Also note that OpenGL is from libmesa and not from ati.08:47
justthisguyunit41: sudo passwd. Pick one :)08:47
fyrestrtrwetduck: its already in the system, just add yourself to it.08:47
orion2012wetduck: do you have administrative access to the box?08:47
xamoxpwk, best is a personal opinion08:47
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pwki know, sorry...08:47
dyn-afkunit41 you don't have a root password, use sudo instead08:47
pwkLaughing Out Loud08:48
xamoxpwk, it's probably the best for new users08:48
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pwkok08:48
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xamoxpwk, personally I like gentoo the best08:48
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fyrestrtrlincsie: enable the dri module.08:48
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xamoxpwk, but it's a bitch to setup08:48
xamoxpwk, I like ubuntu cause i can just install and go08:48
dyn-afkgentoo is like freebsd but with a linux kernel08:48
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wetduckorion2012, yes.08:48
xamoxgentoo is nice because it's not a fork08:49
lincsiefyrestrtr: by adding "Load "dri"" in my xorg.conf ?08:49
wetduckHow do I add myself to it?08:49
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dyn-afkxamox technically gentoo is a fork from freebsd08:49
orion2012wetduck: usermod -G admin -a wetduck08:49
dyn-afkthey really want to be like freebsd but on a linux kernel08:49
xamoxdyn-afk, I don't think so, it uses portage, which is based on freebsd ports08:49
fyrestrtrlincsie: yes.08:49
justthisguylincsie: I think it has to be in the right section, look for the other loads08:49
dyn-afkit's like NexentaOS (which is opensolaris with ubuntu as userland)08:49
clustyfreebsd is coolest OS i saw so far. slight trouble with hardware support :(08:50
dyn-afkI think it was on their website xamox08:50
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orion2012wetduck: if you can't sudo though, you'll need root access or someone else in the admin group to add you08:50
dyn-afkfreebsd is nice yes, but not as a desktop os, that's where you want to put ubuntu :P08:50
lincsiefyrestrtr: It's already there08:50
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dyn-afkwetduck what was the username you entered during the ubuntu installation ?08:50
lincsiejustthisguy: it's loaded, I'll have a look at the Xorg logfile08:51
dyn-afkyou'll want to log in as that account08:51
unit41im missing libasound where can i get it ?08:51
clustywell i am afraid that ubuntu will turn into a redhat/fedora thing08:51
unit41I need lmms to work08:51
justthisguyclusty: how so?08:51
clustyall started as just more user friendly linuxes, then they started implemented distro specific soft....08:51
wetduckorion2012, usermod: unable to lock password file08:52
fyrestrtrlincsie: add Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection to the file.08:52
clustyand next step was just having same practices as windows :(08:52
xamoxdyn-afk, actually I just asked in #gentoo, gentoo is linux based08:52
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lincsiefyrestrtr: that's already there as well ..08:52
dyn-afkclusty ubuntu is just debian but they think they can be more userfriendly and up to date then debian08:52
bXidyn-afk: gentoo is not forked from freebsd08:52
fyrestrtrlincsie: then it should work.08:52
dyn-afkthey also put things back to debian08:52
orion2012wetduck: like I said, you'll need someone in the admin group to issue that command08:52
wetduckdyn-afk, Am I afraid the only account set on my Ubuntu is the one I am currently running.08:52
dyn-afkbXi I know08:52
fyrestrtrlincsie: are you using xgl?08:52
orion2012wetduck: what username did you enter when you installed?08:52
dyn-afkbut it somewhat looks like it because gentoo really wants to be like freebsd for the most part08:52
bXiportage was derived from the ports collection but thats about it08:53
lincsiefyrestrtr: no08:53
clustydyn-afk, actually if you go for testing distro its more ont he cutting eddge :-D08:53
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wetduckorion2012, but I am supposed to be the admin group :oP08:53
dyn-afkand they do a really good job at that08:53
clustymy only problem with debian is that it takes me like a week to get all stuff working properly on my laptop08:53
clustywhereas ubuntu works out of the box08:53
dyn-afkthen you're in trouble wetduck if the current account really is the same one as the install :(08:53
unit41suse works out of the box too08:53
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unit41most distro's do08:53
godfatherguys g'night08:53
clustysuse sux hard :(08:54
orion2012wetduck: try "grep admin /etc/group" and see who _is_ in the admin group08:54
clustyits bulky as hell08:54
dyn-afksame here clusty: ubuntu is just easy to use compared to debian, takes less work to get things working08:54
godfatheri have to find the router web configuration tool08:54
wetduckdyn-afk, I did install as oem account and today I changes to my official acount and that all I have.08:54
godfatherwhere is it?08:54
dyn-afkah08:54
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dyn-afkI think I had that same problem wetduck08:54
unit41if its so much less work why am I straining to find libasound lib for my lmms install08:54
clustydyn-afk, btw is it possible to install debian packages under ubuntu?08:54
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dyn-afkwish I could remember what I did to make it work...08:54
clustynever tried :)08:55
dyn-afkclusty that's what the other repositories are for :P08:55
godfatheri have to open some ports08:55
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godfathercould anyone help me?08:55
wetduckorion2012, I got lpadmin:x:106:wetduck08:55
wetduckadmin:x:112:08:55
dyn-afkif you want a skype version that has working audio you'll want to install version 1.3beta08:55
unit41point me to a package repo08:55
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dyn-afk1.3beta is only available for debian and some other distro's08:55
clustygodfather, by router you mean a linux box or a wireless thingy?08:55
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dyn-afkI installed the debian version and it just works :)08:55
godfatherilinux box08:56
orion2012wetduck: and you didn't enable the root account?08:56
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godfatherlet me expalin08:56
godfatheria heve to use my webcam with amsn08:56
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robert_blah08:56
orion2012wetduck: if not, you'll have to booth the livecd to fix it08:56
wetduckorion2012, Mmmm not sure, how?08:56
godfatherit give me an error massage08:56
orion2012wetduck: boot*08:56
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godfatherit tells that i'm behind a router or firewalled08:56
godfatherso the amsn faq08:56
unit41would anyone be able to help me find libasound for my lmms install, I really would like to get this working.... is there anykind of package manager that just resolves all the depandancy's for me ?08:56
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godfatherinvite me to open some ports08:57
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clustygodfather, guess you are not using firewall08:57
wetduckorion2012, what does that line says?08:57
lincsiefyrestrtr: I found an error in the Xorg logfile: (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!     (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad)      However, the kernel module is loaded .08:57
x_OI am getting this error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25219/  while trying to run08:57
marshallunit41, maybe try sudo apt-get -f install08:57
godfatherclusty08:57
themadscotsmanhello i have a question about Edgy Beta08:57
clustygodfather, just try to open up in a web browser the ip of your router08:57
marshallthemadscotsman, hmm?08:57
godfatherto be honest i don't know08:57
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x_OTried running apt-get install -f, and I get this error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25219/ can anyone take a look?08:57
clustygodfather, your gateway usually08:57
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lincsiefyrestrtr: but lsmod shows me that it is unused ... "fglrx                 407372  0"08:57
klokanHi! On my powerbook G4 (TiBook), 550Mhz suspend is not running. Where should I read? Thanks08:58
justthisguygodfather: its probably easiest actually to install a firewall and use that to open the ports amsn wants :)08:58
godfatheroka router08:58
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fyrestrtrlincsie: rebuild your module.08:58
klokan(I have dapper)08:58
godfatherok08:58
unit41says could not find package08:58
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godfatherbut how can i open a port?08:58
klokanOr is there some special group for powerpc?08:58
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x_Ohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25219/ what does this mean. anyone..08:58
lincsiefyrestrtr: I installed the module from the ubuntu restricted-modules package08:58
xamoxwhat is a fast ubuntu mirror?08:59
godfatheri need t find a router web configuration08:59
clustyjustthisguy: but if he has a router that blocks the port its useless to do it from his machine08:59
justthisguygodfather: depends on the firewall, but most are pretty selfexplanatory08:59
Focuz_goodbye i 'm going to rome08:59
fyrestrtrlincsie: re-install it, and make sure you also install your kernel header packages.08:59
themadscotsmanbox boots but opens up black screen....if i press any key i get tty1....then i press ctrl+alt+F7 i get log-in screen08:59
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ic3mangris there an ubuntu full dvd set with all the packages as debian linux have?08:59
lincsiefyrestrtr: ok, I'll reinstall it08:59
justthisguyclusty: most routers leave things open by default though, it seems unlikely its that08:59
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orion2012wetduck: boot the livecd, it should automount your hard drive. then you can edit /etc/group by hand and add your username after admin:x:112:08:59
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x_OAnyone smart enough in here to know wtf this crap means : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25219/09:00
manmadhacan any one give the FM links for indian music????09:00
homerh_hhiya ppl ive upgraded from dapper to edgy ,but its failed x wont start,ive down graded the xorg-xserver-core and im using nv in gmd but i still getting errors of  xauth: creating new authority file /home/linux1/.serverauth.46409:00
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homerh_hx:cannot stat /etc/x!!/x09:00
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themadscotsmanhow to get log-in screen w/o ctrl+alt+F709:01
manmadhacan any one give the FM links for indian music????09:01
ic3mangris there an ubuntu full dvd set with all the packages as debian linux have?09:01
justthisguyhomerh_h: x seems to break when distupgrading sometimes. Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:01
unit41ok new problem... how do I force install a package ?09:01
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dyn-afk<themadscotsman> how to get log-in screen w/o ctrl+alt+F7 << boot the machine??09:01
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sparkleytoneis there a curses-based web browser that can do javascript?09:01
ladydoor!repeat09:01
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:01
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orion2012sparkleytone: w3m09:02
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manmadhadyn-afk, ctrl+alt+backspace09:02
sparkleytonethx orion201209:02
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sparkleytonehopefully this will make me sane again09:02
TheLancehello09:02
ladydoorsparkleytone: you might like conkeror09:02
justthisguymanmadha: if you want streamed web music, try out streamtuner09:02
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TheLancecan someone please help me and show me how to add a 1440X900 resolution in ubuntu?09:02
ladydoorsparkleytone: if you're not in console-only...it's a firefox extension that makes it 100% keyboard-driven :-)09:02
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gemeindebauhello all, i do have that annoying jmicron pata chip mainboard problem, with my cd-rom port connected to it. now i happen to have an usb cdrom but that does not work either. i suppose i need to disable the jmicron chip as a boot option, but can anybody please point me to a resource on how-to disable that port before installing? thank you09:02
sparkleytonei am in console only09:03
dyn-afk<manmadha> dyn-afk, ctrl+alt+backspace << no that would be a restart for the X server09:03
Blissex!x09:03
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:03
ladydoorsparkleytone: oh. well good for you! escape the extra fluff09:03
themadscotsmanhey homerh.....try pressing ctrl+alt+F7....it might give you log-in screen09:03
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manmadhadyn-afk, yaa09:03
justthisguyTheLance: easiest way is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but you go through some other questions too, defaults are usally fine09:03
ebelI've fixed my problem from earlier.09:03
orion2012sparkleytone: it's really basic and bleeding edge JS support, but it might work for you09:03
sparkleytoneladydoor: exactly...my servers have no business running X1109:03
xamoxwhat is a fast ubuntu mirror?09:03
ebelI did a aptitude dist-upgrade, rebooted and now apt can update with no errors and I've installed darcs.09:04
robert_blah, I can't get php4-cgi to install09:04
sparkleytoneladydoor: its all due to oracle requiring javascript just to download 10g09:04
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ebelDunno what it was, but it's fixed now.09:04
justthisguyxamox: generally I pick the one closest to my country09:04
TheLancek i'll try it and see how it works09:04
xamoxjustthisguy, I tried, it's crawling, 20kbps09:04
ladydoorsparkleytone: what is oracle, if i may ask?09:04
lincsiefyrestrtr: ok, it's reinstalled ...09:04
fyrestrtrlincsie: now reboot.09:04
sparkleytonedammit...uknown URI09:04
sparkleytonedoesn't work09:04
lincsiefyrestrtr: ok, see you then .. :)09:04
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sparkleytoneladydoor: oracle 10g is an enterprise database server09:05
xamoxwhat is the filesize of the latest i386 desktop iso?09:05
TheLanceyeah is there a way i can edit the resolution file?09:05
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xamoxI have a local mirror but I think the file is bad, when I try to burn it, it's complaining09:05
TheLancei forgot where it was?09:05
ladydoorsparkleytone: aha...no wonder i'd heard of it.09:05
TheLancei dont want to mess with all these other settings09:05
orion2012xamox: check the releases page09:06
ladydoorTheLance: you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf?09:06
xamoxthe desktop iso is smaller than the server iso to, should that be?09:06
themadscotsmanhomerh you there09:06
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TheLanceyeah09:06
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orion2012xamox: checksums are on there09:06
justthisguyTheLance: what ladydoor said :)09:06
thedashwould there be any easyish way to display any differences between two directories?09:06
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TheLancewhats the terminal code to edit it?09:06
sparkleytoneTheLance: res options are at the end...just put them in preferred order under the bitdepth you are using09:06
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adam0509hello ! got a problem installing a deb package : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25220/09:06
sparkleytoneTheLance: use nano09:06
justthisguyladydoor: youre away09:06
ladydoorjustthisguy: nu-uh09:06
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ladydoorTheLance: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:07
justthisguyI just got an away message from you. strange09:07
sparkleytonei don't believe imagemagick is a command09:07
orion2012adam0509: #ubuntu-fr might be better able to help09:07
TheLancethanks09:07
andriijassomeone told me how to switch default sound card in ubuntu some week ago, i forgot the commando. can anyone give me a hint please?09:07
ladydoorTheLance: but FIRST do sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak09:07
unit41how do you install a deb package from shell ?09:07
themadscotsmannever mind...i'll just use ctrl+alt+F7 to get log-in screen09:07
fyrestrtr!alsa > andriijas09:07
ladydoorsparkleytone: no, it's a package that comes with many sub-programs09:07
justthisguyunit41: thats on your computer or on the net?09:07
orion2012!dpkg09:07
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.09:07
ladydoorunit41: sudo aptitude install packagename09:07
unit41on my computer09:07
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adam0509orion2012 => no one answers me, seems they can't help me...09:08
sparkleytoneadam0509: you need to run one of the programs...09:08
sparkleytoneadam0509: i answered you09:08
justthisguyunit41: dpkg -i , but you have to resolv the dependencies manually09:08
ladydoorunit41: or you can do just sudo aptitude to get an interface. or you can search with apt-cache search packagename09:08
sparkleytoneadam0509: imagemagick itself is not a program, but a package name09:08
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adam0509ah...09:08
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fyrestrtradam0509: the command you want is 'convert'09:08
fyrestrtradam0509: man convert09:08
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wetduck:o)09:08
sparkleytoneyeah convert09:08
sparkleytonethat's right09:09
adam0509no no, I'm just looking for cool programs for light painting, cause gimp is too heavy09:09
ladydoorTheLance: diff dir1 dir209:09
orbital04jj09:09
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adam0509so, If I understand, in source-forge, you got programs, and you got simple package too ???09:09
thedashis there a way to compare the contents of two folders?09:09
fyrestrtradam0509: sudo apt-get install gpaint09:09
ladydoorTheLance: ignore that09:10
ladydoorTheLance: diff dir1 dir209:10
dyn-afkhow about tuxpaint adam0509 ?09:10
lincsiefyrestrtr: hmm, still doesn't work, nothing changed ;(09:10
adam0509fyrestrtr, => no, that crap is not supported till 2002 ;)09:10
ladydoorTheLance: ignore that too...sorry09:10
adam0509dyn-afk => tuxpaint is for kid09:10
ladydoorthedash: diff dir1 dir209:10
justthisguythedash: <ladydoor> TheLance: diff dir1 dir209:10
dyn-afkit's easy though adam0509 :P09:10
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ladydoorjustthisguy: thank you09:10
justthisguynp :)09:10
adam0509I found only two good program : xpaint and XnView09:10
TheLancehow do I save the edits?09:10
ladydoorjustthisguy: i always kind of expect that when i hit tab i'll get the right name09:10
TheLanceim using edgy efy09:10
ladydoorTheLance: control-o09:10
dyn-afkyou can try a vector graphics drawing tool like sodipodi or inkscape09:10
adam0509?09:11
dyn-afkbut I think those are at the same level as the gimp, so maybe not for you adam050909:11
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ladydoorTheLance: ...why are you using the development release? unless you're already familiar with linux it's a BAD IDEA to use nonstable releases09:11
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adam0509...09:11
TheLanceyeah i have no idea what im doing09:11
adam0509Gimp is not only difficult its heavy dyn-afk09:11
TheLanceit was a bad idea to use edgy eft09:11
adam0509got XFCE with pentium III09:11
ladydoorjustthisguy: and as to the away thing--i forget to put up away messages when i'm gone and forget to take them down when i'm back09:11
TheLanceok lets try this out09:12
TheLancebrb09:12
justthisguyladydoor: hehe yeah I know what you mean :)09:12
dyn-afkI'm running The GIMP on a celeron 700 MHz with 384 MB of ram..it runs nice, so not heavy09:12
ossie#xgl09:12
adam0509Ergh ! 384 MB RAM !09:12
adam0509got only 19209:12
justthisguyyeah, rams more inportant than cpu for gimp09:13
dyn-afkminus some ram because of the onboard video09:13
adam0509and I'm not only looking programs for me, I'm looking for program for the community :] 09:13
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andriijasis there nobody here that knows the commando to switch default soundcard?09:13
dyn-afkbut 192MB is really tiny nowadays :P09:13
adam0509I already updated the french wiki aboutt xpaint gpaint and XnView09:13
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dyn-afkhow about sodipodi and inkscape ?09:13
justthisguyandriijas: depends if youre running alsa, oss ,etc09:14
adam0509192MB for a pentium III 533 was a good thing in old times ;)09:14
andriijasjustthisguy: alsa09:14
adam0509inkscape is a vectorial program09:14
andriijasjustthisguy: or ubuntu default09:14
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TheLancethank you all09:14
adam0509sodipodi ? okay i'm gonna try !09:14
TheLanceit works09:14
dyn-afksodipodi is also vector graphics09:14
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dyn-afkthere really isn't much else09:14
justthisguyandriijas: try getting alsa-tools ( or something like that ) and it should have programs to do it for you, I think09:14
Spootnickhello09:14
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Spootnickwhat is the url for the hardware requirements for ubuntu09:14
adam0509:'[[[[[[[[09:14
dyn-afkand besides, The GIMP is an image manipulation program, not a drawing program09:14
TheLanceyeah i had to reformat after last night too the computer messed up the upgrade for some reason09:14
TheLanceso i had to reformat this morning09:15
dyn-afktry the release notes Spootnick09:15
TheLanceand install edgy eft09:15
Spootnicki remember seeing something online that listed all the laptops that ubuntu has been tested on09:15
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justthisguydyn-afk: its ok for drawing, not like a proper painting program tho09:15
adam0509dyn-afk => know a program called "photo filtre" for windows ? This one is really perfect !!09:15
dyn-afkrelease notes are available at the downloadpage from ubuntu.com09:15
andriijasjustthisguy: i have but i dont remember the commando09:15
dyn-afkphotofiltre is nice for image manipulation yeah09:15
dyn-afklot's of pro's use it :)09:15
adam0509Spootnick,  => hardware requirement : if you're PC got USB port, then go on :)09:16
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adam0509hhh09:16
sparkleytoneladydoor: any other console based browsers that can do jscript?09:16
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adam0509got contact with the author09:16
adam0509I try to get devellopement for linux09:16
justthisguyandriijas: try aptitude info alsa-tools. it should have a description of whats in the package09:16
adam0509but seems the author want it to keep it closed source, but I understand him...09:16
ladydoorsparkleytone: not that i know of--sorry.09:16
dopryjust a quick question, is the edgy beta relatively stable?09:16
ladydoorsparkleytone: i'm not sure whether or not elinks does or not09:17
ladydoordopry: ask in #ubuntu+109:17
Spootnickadam0509 i am looking at installing it on a Toshiba Tecra S1 notebook09:17
dopryladydoor, thanks.09:17
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adam0509If I was knowing coding, I could ask him the source and devellop a linux-version09:17
Spootnickill priv msg you the specs...tell me what you think09:17
adam0509Spootnick, => Wich processor ? Ram ?09:17
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SpootnickToshiba Tecra S1 Centrino 1.6Ghz/ 512MB/ 40GB HDD/ CDRW+DVD/09:17
SpootnickWL-802.11G/ 15TFT/ XPP09:17
adam0509k09:17
adam0509PFFFFF LOWL09:17
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adam0509you get get easyly ubuntu, don't worry guy :D09:18
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Spootnicki am just about to buy that notebook, thats why before i spend the cash for it09:18
adam0509I'm running on a PIII, see the difference ? ^^09:18
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adam0509wan't to buy it without windows ? ^^09:18
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Spootnickyes without :-)09:19
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zlackhey guys - anyone know of a good OneNote substitude for linux?09:19
adam0509then, good luck :] 09:19
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Spootnickwhat do you mean?09:19
dyn-afkzlack try tomboy notes09:19
adam0509what you mean by onenote zlack ?09:19
zlackadam0509: its a ms note application09:19
dyn-afkthere's also a wikiprogram that you can use for things like that09:19
justthisguytiddlywiki?09:20
dyn-afkonenote has support for a tablet but that is something you don't have on ubuntu09:20
adam0509so, its not like a notepad...?09:20
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zlackdyn-afk: i'll trythe tomboy stuff - thanks!09:20
dyn-afkwell, just tablet support as a mouse, not to write on a screen09:20
justthisguyubuntu has tablet support afaik09:20
robbbbquestion -> if i have 2 linux pc's - is it possible to 'move' windows from one pc to the other?09:20
dyn-afkadam0509 no, it's not like notepad09:20
dyn-afkit's far more then that09:20
zlackdyn-afk: i just like that note taking idea09:20
adam0509dyn-afk, => By the way, photo-filtre work with WINE ! But I try to install wine, but it bug at configuration step :/09:20
dyn-afkit's like a analog notebook: you put al sorts of ideas in it09:21
adam0509ok09:21
dyn-afknice adam0509 :)09:21
homerh_hno still no joy x-wont start09:21
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homerh_hhiya ppl ive upgraded from dapper to edgy ,but its failed x wont start,ive down graded the xorg-xserver-core and im using nv in gmd but i still getting errors of  xauth: creating new authority file /home/linux1/.serverauth.46409:21
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justthisguyrobbbb: I know you can share your mouse and kbrd like that, dont know about windows tho09:21
dyn-afkzlack if so then you really should try tomboy :P09:21
jsilvahi09:21
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peppowhat is the codename for 6.06?09:21
ladydoorpeppo: dapper drake09:22
zlackdyn-afk: thanks man09:22
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Somniishi everyone :-)09:22
robbbbi mean like in 24 (tv series) where they 'send' windows to another terminal.09:22
dyn-afknp zlack09:22
Dr_Willisrobbbb,  seen that done with a X program..but its a bit of a hack.09:22
thedashI am trying to find out the version number of a driver, and I can see a file called /sys/modules/sata_sil/version, but I can't open it or view it or anything?09:22
Somniisrobbbb: it's possible, but it takes a lot more than just "sending" it lol09:22
Dr_Willisrobbbb,  and it takes a little bit of setup09:23
dyn-afkjustthisguy you mean something like synergy?09:23
justthisguyyup09:23
jsilvaI am trying ubuntu 6.10 and I see that fonts in amsn and others programs look ugly, is it a 6.10 limitation or I forgot something?09:23
dyn-afksharing a mouse and keyboard between different machines09:23
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robbbbDr_Willis: any pointers?09:23
Dr_Willissyngery letrs youcontroll the other pc's mouse/keyboard09:23
dyn-afkbut you still need to hook up a monitor to each one of them09:23
robbbbyeah but i want to move a window from one to the other09:23
dyn-afkzlack you can also try "zim desktop wiki" for you note taking09:23
dyn-afkand you might want to look at something that is called mindmapping09:24
justthisguyfreemind is pretty cool for notes and brainstorms09:24
Dr_Willisrobbbb,  program name is xmove..and you MUST set up the programs specifically be moveable09:24
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dyn-afkfreemind is a really nice mindmapping tool but it isn't in the repositories so you need to download it yourself09:24
dyn-afkthey have debian packages though and they work :)09:24
robbbbxmove eh. i'll take a look09:24
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thedashhow do you close out of a 'view' command in console without saving the file?09:24
adam0509http://pix.nofrag.com/37/bd/895b18b6486abde1b7608c9a096b.html dyn-afk09:24
dyn-afkthere is one other mindmapping tool and it'sthe only one in the repositories, you can try that one as well, just search for mindmap09:25
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dyn-afklol adam0509, photofiltre looks even better in linux then in windows :P09:25
peppowhat's up with libdvdcss2 in dapper?09:25
dyn-afkbbl09:25
dyn-afkneed some coffee09:25
jribubotu: tell peppo about dvd09:25
adam0509yes, but its the studio version by the way so maybe it has so important differences...09:25
dyn-afklack of caffeine :P09:25
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ladydoorthedash: what command? less? it's not an editor09:28
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adam0509I run on standard user linux, but in root mode, It bug... could you believe that ? :)09:29
sterni1971hello just upgraded to edgy. what is the best way to get compiz?09:29
jribsterni1971: try #ubuntu-xgl09:29
ladydooradam0509: gee, running into problems running as root...who'd have thunk it?09:29
ladydoorsterni1971: also, #ubuntu+1 is the edgy channel.09:29
justthisguy!edgy09:29
sterni1971thanks!09:29
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:29
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wetduckonix2012, I think I am on a rescue mode prompt, could you help me from here on please?09:32
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Maniquihi. I have installed Ubuntu 6.06. Please, how can I install the graphics acceleration for my Ati X700? (I remember I did it in 5.10, but cant remember how)09:33
wetduckonix2012, are you there?09:33
SpudDoggkitche!!!!!09:33
thedashladydoor:: I typed "view <file>", and it showed the file content, but now I can't figure out how to exit it09:33
SpudDoggkitche: are you here?  must not be paying attention again :)09:33
ladydoorthedash: do this:   :q09:33
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ladydoorthedash: view is actually a vim thing--less is better for just viewing files...and you quit it with q09:34
thedashladydoor:: he ":" being an atcual colon or some other key that I don't know?09:34
wetduckCould someone help me to access the file group to try edit it? I don't remeber the path of it...09:34
ladydoorthedash: an actual colon09:34
adam0509ladydoor => my ubuntu is very...experimental ! I change many component (processeur, graphic card) and make many craps in configs files I think... That's why I'm waiting for edgy for making a brand new installation ;)09:34
adam0509and by the way I'll make a benchmark on my computer :}09:35
kitcheSpudDogg yes?09:35
Zaggynlanyone tried installing defcon in wine with ubuntu?09:35
adam0509when It was just installed, Firefox was running on 12" seconds, and now, it takes 20" seconds... will see how it changes :)09:35
ladydooradam0509: well, good luck!09:36
adam0509ubuntu roxx tbh !09:36
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wetduckCould someone check where is the location of the file group please ?09:36
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adam0509I still wanted to get on linux but I was scared :D what a fool I was :D09:36
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anto9uswetduck, /etc/group09:37
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wetduckanto9us, ok thank you!09:37
nodeyanyone here knows a any good bandwith monitor besides bwmon ?09:37
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mcphailwetduck: edit it with vigr09:38
adam0509could someone believe that in the french wiki, we do not have a homepage for audacity ? :[09:38
UbuntuGuyHow can I run aptitude - s install so that it displays the same results as update-manager?09:38
wetduckmcphail, what is vigr?09:38
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mcphailwetduck: a relatively safe way to edit /etc/group09:38
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wetduckmcphail, but is it vigr or vi?09:39
mcphailwetduck: vigr09:39
Arrickhey, if you want a really good laugh, check this site out09:39
Arrickhttp://www.crisscross.com/forum/Worlds_worst_hacker%25_IRC_t%20ranscript/m_422436/tm.htm09:39
gnu2it2where to find amd64/k8 kernels? or do you have to roll your own?09:40
ArrickI was given the link in Windows and man is it funnnnyyy09:40
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SpComba better version of that would be to tell them to hack, say, foo.marttila.de. That resolves to 127.0.0.1 :)09:40
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SpCombreal domain names resolving to localhost is something that I see very rarely, I'm sure it would catch quite a few people by surprise09:41
Arrickisnt that a nice change from the usual SpComb?09:41
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JamieBEWhen are we likely to see a version of Flash 9.0 for Ubuntu? - I am tired of seeing this "You need blah blah blah to do such and such"...?09:45
houllamuillaHello!09:45
kitcheJamieBE: when Flash9 is made for linux09:46
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houllamuillaI need some help please!09:46
JamieBEKitche - When is that likely to happen?09:46
Armstrong80Im trying to install XMMS which ive had before on this computer with a different distro, but under the add/remove program I get an error saying that its not available in any software channel and that it might not support my architecture. Anyone know whats going on?09:46
farchordJamieBE: I heard they're releasing sometimes in 200709:46
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Zaggynlwhen will the new wine be in the ubuntu rep?09:47
JamieBESeriously?! - There'll be a flash 10 by then09:47
farchordJamieBE: lol they just released 909:47
JamieBEZaggynl - there was a release recently.09:47
JamieBEFarchord - Lies.09:47
farchordfor now, me, I use Firefox with Flash 9 on Wine09:47
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houllamuillaSome help please!09:48
ZaggynlJamieBE, err how to get version 0.9.22 ? when I try a apt-get install it says I have the latest09:48
ladydoor!someone09:48
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:48
ladydoor!ask09:48
wetduckhow do I know the /etc/group file I am accessing is the one on my harddrive09:48
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:48
wetduck+or is it from the boot cd?09:48
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JamieBEZaggynl - Are you talking about Wine or Flash?09:49
ZaggynlWine09:49
JamieBEThat explains it then :)09:49
Zaggynl:P09:49
ladydoor!xmms09:49
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs09:49
kitchewetduck: there is usually only one group file unless you use some type of encryption09:49
JamieBEAnd why doesn't Ubuntu have native support for PPT file editing?09:50
gravesoni have a chronos dvb box and i am looking for some direction on how to configure this and copy my vhs tapes to mpeg files ?09:50
houllamuillaDoes anyone knows how i can update my sources list? every time i want to apt-get something, it tells me it couldnt found it in E:09:50
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Armstrong80!codecs09:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:50
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ladydoorArmstrong80: try installing it in the console. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xmms . if it spits out errors, paste them to paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:50
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ladydoor* http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:50
Armstrong80thank you09:51
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ladydoorJamieBE: um...it does. openoffice something-or-other09:51
JamieBELadyDoor - Not that I know of - Nothing in Linux will edit a PowerPoint Presentation09:51
farchordaiite! Let's compile Wine AGAIN!09:51
farchordlawl09:51
farchord<3 64 Bit OSes09:51
gravesoni have a chronos dvb box and i am looking for some direction on how to configure this and copy my vhs tapes to mpeg files ? any direction will help please09:51
ladydoorJamieBE: and the reason that support had to be reverse-engineered is that microsoft refuses to release their formats09:51
ladydoorJamieBE: open up openoffice impress, create a presentation, and save it as a powerpoint; then come back and argue with me.09:52
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ladydoorJamieBE: or open one up with it, edit it, and save it.09:52
JamieBE"Impress" you say??09:52
ladydoorJamieBE: yes. the openoffice slideshow thing.09:53
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JamieBEladydoor - I am going to take you up on this challenge and then have your babies if you are right.09:53
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ladydoorJamieBE: now, what i'd like is a command-line tool to do that...09:53
ladydoorJamieBE: LOL09:53
ska1hi i'm trying to install dapper with single / on xfs and a swap, but the 6.06-1 live cd fails during the formatting, any tips on avoiding this error?09:53
npsterWhat a heck is SSH key ???09:53
farchordHmmm guys, I have a small problem, when i use my multimedia keyboard's volume control, it changes the Bass instead of the volume, anyone knows how to fix that!?09:53
JamieBEladydoor - Command line babies - You are leet huh!?09:53
ladydoorJamieBE: not...quite what i meant09:53
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JamieBEClose enough09:54
ladydoorJamieBE: i actually meant to edit powerpoints...but whatevs09:54
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kitchenpster: it's allows you to ssh into a machine without a password it's very useful if you don't want to enter a password each time you log in to a machine09:54
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houllamuillahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25226/09:54
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npsterkitche can you help me a bit?09:54
JamieBEladydoor - Babies/Presentations - Same thing!09:54
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_ali I have problem with my samba server09:55
ladydoorJamieBE: totally. babies make less noise though09:55
_ali I am not able to make as local master09:55
kitchenpster: yes09:55
_aliI have tried many things, it used to work easily before!!!!!09:55
npsterkitche I need a ssh key for fedora and I have no idea what to do?09:55
_alianybody can help in this topic?09:55
mipstienim having trouble with my 3d acceleration. direct rendering says it is off and i can't get it to turn on with " sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"09:55
ladydoor!ndiswrapper09:55
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:55
factotumif i wanted to connect to a shared folder on a mac with os 10.3, would i still use samba for that?09:55
ladydoorhoullamuilla: see ubotu's post09:56
npsteryup09:56
farchordmipstien: Prolly a kernel update. You might have to repatch yer kernel09:56
JamieBEladydoor: I'll be dipped in shi..erbert. That application opened PPT all along! And to think that i was using Java apps with read-only capability. SHOCKING! Thanks ladydoor!!!!09:56
mipstienfarchord: updated to .27 and all modules installed09:56
ladydoorJamieBE: no problem!09:56
orkid__mipstien: ubuntuguide.org might be able to help.  make sure you're up to date with 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade'09:56
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npsterkitche What should I do so I can get a ssh key for fedora, it says to do this ssh-keygen -t dsa ?09:57
jdahmby default, does ubuntu have all the ACPI settings enabled?09:57
farchordmipstien: : at worse, try to reinstall the nvidia drivers09:57
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jdahmIm too lazy to check09:57
JamieBEladydoor - Next you are going to tell me that I can compile my VB.NET application for Ubuntu!...... :|09:57
ladydoorJamieBE: i don't know what that is, sorry09:57
mipstienfarchord: should i uninstall them and reinstall or just reinstall09:57
Armstrong80ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25227/09:57
kitchenpster: http://sial.org/howto/openssh/publickey-auth/ read that should help you out09:58
JamieBEladydoor - You must not use Windows much huh?09:58
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adam0509Got a problem with WINE, I install it, seems okay. I run "winecfg", It begin to create a directory, but then, nothing happens !!!09:58
farchordmipstien: Just reinstall imo....09:58
houllamuillahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25228/09:58
godfatheris there anyone who could help me to install mercury?09:58
ladydoorJamieBE: i never really used computers a lot before i got this one last summer...and i never really used it much until i installed ubuntu in October of last year.09:58
JamieBEadam0509: I had same problem i think - Just delete the ~/.wine dir. and run again.09:59
SomniisSpring!09:59
adam0509I've already done that :[ :[09:59
adam0509gona retry...09:59
JamieBESo you are STARTING with Unix?09:59
Somniisladydoor: good choice to start with :-)09:59
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ladydoorArmstrong80: that's very odd, since it's in main...what's your architecture?10:00
JamieBEladydoor: I am envious of your innocent, non-Microsoft tainted soul.10:00
adam0509houllamuilla,  => got universe/multiverse depository ??10:00
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ladydoorJamieBE: lol10:00
ladydoorSomniis: what do you mean?10:00
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Somniisladydoor: most people start with Windows10:00
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mipstienfarchord: those things do not work10:00
JamieBEladydoor: I think he means Unix for a starter. - It all just makes so much more sense than Windows!10:00
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mipstienmanually updateing xorg.conf doesn't seem to work either10:01
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Armstrong80ladydoor: just i38610:01
ladydoorSomniis: oh, check. i mean, i'd had some minimal exposure when i was in high school, but it never really interested me at all.10:01
kitcheSomniis: most people choose windows due to that they have to they only use what's on their computer to start with10:01
SomniisJamieBE: yes :)10:01
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ladydoorArmstrong80: yeah, it should definitely exist...i don't know why it doesn't10:01
houllamuillai dont know. i installed ubuntu about 5 days ago. i know almost nothing about linux10:01
Somniiskitche: I agree.  I used Windows for 6 years until I installed Ubuntu a few weeks ago :-)10:01
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Armstrong80ladydoor: would there be another channel or place I could check/ask (thank you very much for the help so far)10:02
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ladydoorArmstrong80: this is pretty much it...let me check your pastebin again.10:02
robbbbanyone know how xmove works?10:02
adam0509JamieBE, => still It works a little better ! thanks ! gonna try several things !10:02
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JamieBEladydoor, Somniis: Personally I feel as though Ubuntu has a long way to go in terms of fine tuning, and making everything easier on the users, but it will be the winner in the long run, when people realise they don't have to pay 200 / $400USD a pop for an OS!10:02
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Armstrong80Can anyone recommend a good alternative to xmms?10:02
farchordI would use Ubuntu everyday, if only my fav game and TV tuner would work in it lol10:03
Brandowhat command do I use to find out my ipaddress?10:03
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ladydoorArmstrong80: would you please paste your sources.list to pastebin?10:03
SpudDoggkitche, still here?10:03
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kitcheBrando: do you mean your external ip or your internel ip?10:03
SomniisJamieBE: I think Ubuntu is meant to be a "starters" OS into Linux.. and gradually get into more advanced distros10:03
JamieBEadam0509 - No probs. You might wanna try removing and then updating too (if you haven't already :P) :)10:03
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Brandonnnwhat command do I use to find out my ipaddress?10:03
kitcheSpudDogg: yes I m here10:03
ladydoorJamieBE: lol...if you ask me, it's TOO user-friendly10:03
robbbbifconfig10:03
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kitcheBrandonn: ifconfig|grep ip10:03
Brandonnnty10:03
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Somniisladydoor: I agree lol10:03
ladydoorJamieBE: it's a lot of work to uninstall gnome and all that stuff i never use10:03
SpudDoggkitche: so now i just 'sudo modprobe rt2570' ?10:03
kitcheyes SpudDogg10:04
JamieBEYou a KDE girl ladydoor?10:04
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Somniiskde.. pfft.10:04
brian98Hello all!10:04
Somniishi brian9810:05
ladydoorJamieBE: ratpoison, actually. my DE is GNU screen within ratpoison, with firefox-conkeror for webbrowsing, irssi/bitlbee for irc/im, ptyone for music, & emacs for everything else :-)10:05
kitchenpster: did that link help you out any?10:05
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npsteryeah10:05
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SpudDoggkitche: working like a charm10:05
JamieBEladydoor....ratpoison?10:05
B4L1STACan someone help me fix Grub?10:05
Somniisladydoor: what is ratpoison? :o\10:05
SpudDoggkitche: thanks again...you the man10:05
MalachiI need help. I just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu-desktop, and now OO.org won't work.10:05
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Armstrong80ladydoor: where would I find the source.list file?10:06
Brandonnnlol ifconfig|grep ip or just ifconfig isnt working. Iam useing dsl it just tells me my local addreses10:06
t9k748hello10:06
t9k748I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.0610:06
t9k748but I can't resize the partitions10:06
ladydoorJamieBE: GNU screen to the power of X--it's a window manager. http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/10:06
kitcheBrandonnn: for that you have to go into your router or go to one of thsoe pages that show your outside ip10:06
ladydoorArmstrong80: /etc/apt/sources.list10:06
t9k748because there is no information about the used and unused space10:06
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B4L1STAy9k748, what type of partition is on the partition already? NTFS?10:06
B4L1STAi mean the hard drive10:07
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B4L1STA:S10:07
t9k748unable to read the contents of this filesystem10:07
t9k748FAT3210:07
t9k748I can't resize the NTFS one too10:07
JamieBEladydoor - that looks 31337 to me.10:07
t9k748it happens with a real  computer and VMWare too :(10:07
ephemerosyo \m/10:07
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B4L1STAIs there anything important on the fat32 partition?10:07
Armstrong80ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25232/10:07
brian98I've just noticed a weird one thats bugging me out... ip traffic to certain address' seems to be really slow. When I say this I mean I can ping an address and it won't time out it will just take about 6 seconds between each ping. I've disable ipv6 played with mtu and also installed pump but still the same. any idears! :010:07
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Brandonnnkitche: Lol, that is what I was trying to avoid. Is there a way that I can get the command ipconfig on the terminal?10:08
B4L1STABecause you could just delete the partition and start over...10:08
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t9k748yes, there is10:08
t9k748all my data10:08
ladydoorJamieBE: meh. my mouse doesn't work, and it's a lot easier to use than anything else anyway.10:08
B4L1STAdamn...10:08
ladydoorBrandonnn: ifconfig?10:08
kitcheBrandonnn: ifconfig is the ipconfig in linux10:08
Armstrong80ladydoor: oh so should I uncomment those lines?10:08
skoldhi i have a problem with hydra http://phpfi.com/53035??lang=c anyone knews how to fix this?10:08
ladydoorArmstrong80: just a sec...let me show you what to do :-)10:08
_alianybody have working smb.conf file for samba configures as local master?10:08
kitcheBrandonnn: you have to log in to the router or go to a page that tells you your ip10:08
Shamuraihi10:08
espenelhi10:08
Armstrong80;)10:09
POVaddctladydoor: the problem with screen-like window managers is that many older X apps still need the mouse10:09
robbbbanyone know about xmovecrtl?10:09
JamieBEladydoor: I will donate a new mouse. Please just promise me that you will never use this GUI, for the love of god woman!10:09
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ladydoorJamieBE: no, actually, i really don't like using mice10:09
Brandonnnkitche: Ya its the same but ipconfig give me what I want. lol like on Phlack it has ifconfig and ipconfig and ipconfig gives me my wan address.10:09
bart__let say I upgrade from ubuntu dapper to beta edgy, can I still use the repository " http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/" altough it is not edgy yet?10:09
Somniisladydoor: may i ask why not?10:09
ladydoorPOVaddct: also many newer ones. luckily, i don't use them, except for conkeror and sometimes xpdf10:09
t9k748I have three HDs10:09
ladydoorSomniis: it's easier and faster to type10:09
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JamieBEladydoor: There's not liking mice, and there's not liking mice. You my friend have started a virtual jihad against the WIMP UI's here.10:10
t9k7481) with FAT32 partitoin10:10
Somniisladydoor: well, yes, but it can also be easy to just point and click :-P10:10
B4L1STAt9k748, are they ide or sata or something else?10:10
MalachiI need help. I just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu-desktop, and now OO.org won't work.10:10
kitcheBrandonnn: yeah phlak uses a script which they named ipconfig I m trying to find it right now10:10
POVaddctladydoor: so why do you use X anyway? you could use a framebuffer console with screen10:10
t9k748two IDE10:10
t9k748and a USB LACIE10:10
SomniisPOVaddct: that's what ratpoison basically is, lol10:11
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B4L1STAand the IDE ones are the drives you can't resize?10:11
Brandonnnkitche: Ya so am I, thanx for trying when or if you find it let me know and if I find it ill let you know.10:11
MalachiI need help. I just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu-desktop, and now OO.org won't work.10:11
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JamieBELadydoor: ratpoison scares me and I would like to go ghome now please.10:11
t9k748well.... the first IDE has got just a FAT32 partition10:11
POVaddctSomniis: ah, i like the real screen(1) much better, because you can detach sessions and such things10:11
t9k748and can't be resized10:11
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ladydoorPOVaddct: better text resolution and conkeror/ratpoison :-)10:12
ladydoorJamieBE: lol10:12
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ladydoorJamieBE: you did ask10:12
POVaddctladydoor: hehe10:12
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skoldhi i have a problem with hydra http://phpfi.com/53035??lang=c anyone knews how to fix this?10:12
ladydoorPOVaddct: i meant conkeror/firefox10:12
B4L1STADoes anyone know if Dapper installs a bootloader by default?  I did a default install and it didn't appear to install a bootloader....10:12
ladydoorPOVaddct: it's easier to use than elinks/w3m.10:12
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JamieBEHey I have a good question - I have an external 200GB USB 2.0 hard disk and It will be used between Ubuntu and Windows machines, what Filesystem would be most appropriate so that both OS's can read and write?10:13
t9k748yes, GRUB10:13
kitcheB4L1STA: it installs grub10:13
godfatherguys10:13
B4L1STAJamieBE, fat3210:13
ladydoorArmstrong80: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25234/10:13
godfatheri need a programme to chat using web cam10:13
godfatheramsn doesn't work10:13
kitcheJamieBE: fat32 also called vfat in linux10:13
dyn-afkekiga will do godfather10:13
godfatherneither kopete10:13
dyn-afkbut that's just sip10:13
dyn-afknot msn though10:13
godfatheramsn10:14
JamieBEB4L1STA - People laughed at me last time I said I wanted to use a FAT32 filesystem and then they said "Good luck!"10:14
dyn-afkfor that you have 3 options: amsn, mercury, not using webcam10:14
godfathergives me an error10:14
POVaddctladydoor: i use X with XFCE. as a web browser i use dillo, mozilla and w3m, depending on the situation10:14
B4L1STAkitche, in that case why does it still go the Windows bootloader and how can I setup Grub without damaging my NTFS partition?10:14
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Zaggynldefcon works on wine!10:14
godfatherit tells me that i'm behind a router or firewall10:14
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t9k748nooow... I understand...10:14
t9k748it was mounted10:14
dyn-afkPOVaddct is better off with damn small linux perhaps? :P10:14
ladydoorPOVaddct: though quick question:  does ubuntu's framebuffer work this time around? (i.e., could i, say, watch a movie without starting X (i boot to commandline)?)10:14
t9k748the LACIE ONE10:14
ladydoorPOVaddct: cool10:14
Armstrong80ladydoor: thank you again10:14
JamieBEWhy "good luck with fat32"?10:15
ladydoorArmstrong80: no problem! i hope that works for you10:15
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godfatherbut ekiga doesn't work with the same skype protcol ?10:15
ladydoorArmstrong80: it seems that the problem was you were only getting the source repositories10:15
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POVaddctdyn-afk: no, damn small linux has no real X server, just kdrive with vesa/fbdev only10:15
dyn-afkskype is a proprietary protocol10:15
dyn-afkif you want to use the skype protocol, use skype10:15
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racefhi10:15
ladydoorArmstrong80: which means that you would've had to manually install it all10:15
npsterI have intel processor what should i download i386 or x86 ?10:15
B4L1STAJamieBE, windows only really supports a few file systems and Fat32 is the best option... your choices are Fat, Fat16, Fat32 and NTFS.  NTFS is extremely buggy, and next best is FAT32.  There are programs avalaible for windows that would allow you to access files on an ext3 partition, but I don't know if you would be able to write files.10:15
dyn-afkif you want to use another program, use one that uses sip10:15
racefNTFS10:15
dyn-afka lot more programs support sip then skype10:15
kitcheB4L1STA: well windows can boot from grub sicne windows boot information is actually on the hard drive10:15
POVaddctdyn-afk: but i have made my own dsl-based rescue cd (36mb, without X)10:16
B4L1STAkitche: right, so how do I install Grub?10:16
godfatherekiga uses sip10:16
JamieBEB4L1STA - Just as well that's what I chose then eh?10:16
Jas-Nixhello I just installed ubuntu edgy knot-3 and when I boot up the system all I see is a black screen until I get to X, is this by design or should it show a splash screen of some sort ?10:16
godfathershould it work?10:16
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B4L1STAJamieBE - yea :)10:16
dyn-afkB4L1STA & JamieBE use the IFS driver (www.fs-driver.org) which is the ext2 driver for windows10:16
JamieBEThanks all for your help10:16
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dyn-afkit can read and write files on ext2 and ext3 partitions10:16
npsterHuH?10:17
dyn-afkext3 is backwards compatible with ext2 and that's why you can use the IFS driver with ext310:17
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ladydoorJamieBE: edgy is a development release...it's going to be buggy. but who knows; it might be intentional--oh wait, the devs know. ask in #ubuntu+110:17
godfatheri've just installed mercury10:17
ladydoor:-)10:17
godfatherbut i have some problems with java10:17
B4L1STAdyn-afk: thanks, i10:17
B4L1STAi'll check that out10:17
dyn-afkwho doesn't godfather ? :P10:17
dyn-afkjava is a bit of a problem sometimes10:17
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godfatheryes10:18
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Kyraltyty10:18
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imbrandonKyral, now behave10:18
imbrandon;)10:18
KyralI will I will :P10:18
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ajmitchimbrandon: fat chance of that10:18
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kitchegodfather: did you install java since ubuntu uses the gnu version by default10:18
Kyralremind gnomefreak to set time limits on bans :P10:18
godfatheryes10:18
MalachiI need help. I just installed kubuntu-desktop over my ubuntu-desktop. Now, Open Office won't work.10:19
godfatheri installed because  i needed of frostwire that uses java10:19
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B4L1STAmalachi, have you tried reinstalling it?10:20
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godfatheranyone couldhelpme?10:20
MalachiYes, but I'm not sure exactly _which_ package to try to reinstall, B4L1STA10:20
godfatheri need to try my webcam10:20
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ladydoorMalachi: "doesn't work," eh? what exactly is the problem? and what error messages does it spit out when you start it in the console?10:20
MalachiCould not launch menu item10:21
MalachiDetails: Failed to execute child process "openoffice.org-2.0" (No such file or directory)10:21
Kyralisn't it oowriter now?10:21
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ladydoorMalachi: do this in the terminal:  which oowriter10:21
Malachiladydoor: Nothing.10:22
ladydoorMalachi: ok, sounds like you uninstalled it. look for an openoffice metapackage in synaptic :-)10:22
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Malachiladydoor: metapackage?10:22
zlackdyn-afk: hnb is pretty nice as well (and text based :-)10:22
B4L1STADoes anyone know how I can install Grub?10:23
dyn-afkhnb is a good alternative for ms onenote zlack ?10:23
Kyral!grub10:23
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:23
dyn-afkgrub install I think10:23
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ladydoorMalachi: it'll say something about being a dummy package and will probably have a shorter name than all the rest of them10:23
ladydoor!openoffice10:23
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".10:23
zlackdyn-afk: for me it is, this way i can use it even from console based things10:23
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ladydoorMalachi: that's its name...so actually do sudo aptitude install openoffice.org10:23
godfatherguys i have to try my webcam...need a programme...could anyone help me?10:23
Malachiladydoor: Tried it before....openoffice.org is already the newest version.10:24
Malachi0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.10:24
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ladydoor!webcam10:24
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras10:24
dyn-afkthat's nice zlack :P10:24
ladydoorgodfather: ^^^10:24
godfather:)10:24
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ladydoorMalachi: oh...weird.10:24
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Emaskhi10:24
Emaskdoes anyone know of any reason why ubuntu might not be able to setup the network via dhcp?10:25
KyralEmask: Wireless Lan?10:25
Malachiladydoor: Any ideas?10:25
Emaskno ethernet10:25
Emask10Mbps10:25
Paddy_EIREguys I have boot from a livecd and just deleted the partitions from a 250gb harddrive(IDE) for some reason the unallocated/unformatted drive is showing as having only 232.88gb of space where is all the rest?? thats quite a bit to be losing10:25
ccureauEmask: old ISA card?10:25
Emasknope10:26
KyralEmask: nevermind then...10:26
kitcheEmask: maybe dhcp server not up10:26
ladydoorMalachi: no, sorry...i'm not familiar with kde, so i don't know what it did to openoffice. which particular application do you need?10:26
Emaskthis system worked perfectly10:26
dyn-afkEmask: faulty DHCP server10:26
Emaskpuppy linux connects and works fine10:26
Malachiladydoor: All of them :(10:26
Emaskthats how im talking to u10:26
segfault_Paddy_EIRE, thats it do the math it will work out10:26
dyn-afklike a very very slow DHCP server10:26
ladydoorMalachi: i mean this instant10:26
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Emaskdhcpclient just tells me it can't find a lease10:26
Malachiladydoor: Writer.10:26
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Emaskno offer10:26
ccureauEmask: maybe ubu doesn't set up ethernet card correctly?10:26
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Paddy_EIREsegfault_: yikes thats quite a loss10:26
Paddy_EIREsegfault_: oh well10:26
Emaskwhy would it suddenly not set it up right?10:26
Emasketh0 is shown in ifconfig10:27
kitcheEmask: well if it can't find a lease then it probably how the dhcp server is set up10:27
Emaskand /proc/net/dev10:27
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segfault_Paddy_EIRE, blame it on marketing10:27
ladydoorMalachi: ok, install abiword. it's smaller and faster, and can read ooffice and m$-doc files. that'll let you work while you try to figure out what happened to openoffice.10:27
Emaskpuppy linux finds a lease fine10:27
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ccureauEmask: can you set IP address directly?10:27
Emaskubuntu was seemingly fine until a few days ago10:27
ccureauthat would be my next step10:27
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Malachiladydoor: Yeah, I've come to that solution. Abi works fine, but I really desire the OO suite.10:27
POVaddctEmask: maybe on ubuntu your eth0 is not the ethernet card but eth1394 (ethernet over firewire) and the real ethernet card is eth1?10:27
Emasknot really.............. i am at uni......... and the network is huge so i don't know what ips are available10:27
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Emasketh0 is my network card10:28
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ladydoorMalachi: fair enough. try uninstalling that openoffice package i mentioned and then reinstalling it; that might help.10:28
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Emaskas i said, this is an issue that has just cropped up out of nowhere10:28
Emaskit was fine until a few days ago10:28
dyn-afkladydoor how about reconfiguring it ?10:28
ccureauEmask: take the IP assigned to you now in puppy and assign it in ubu to test10:28
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Emaskok... i will try that10:28
Emaskthanks10:28
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ladydoordyn-afk: would that bring all its dependencies back in?10:28
Justy-hello10:29
FlamekebabI feel like hurting someone. Not anyone in particular, but just in general10:29
gravesoni have a chronos dvb box and i am looking for some direction on how to configure this and copy my vhs tapes to mpeg files ? any direction will help please10:29
dyn-afkno idea ladydoor10:29
dyn-afkit might10:29
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FlamekebabMy 6.06.1 (and 6.06) install CDs keep hanging10:29
Justy-question: does anyone know a program for linux like limewire or ares or emule10:29
Emaskbtw ubuntu seems to have added an ipv6 ip to the interface on ifconfig.........10:29
dyn-afkI don't exactly remember it :(10:29
ladydoordyn-afk: i know that that solves a lot of problems, but i don't know that it reinstalls dependencies10:29
joe__is there any program I can use to talk to MSN Messenger, besides ekiga?10:29
Flamekebabin the middle of the LiveCD sesh, they just hang10:29
ladydoorJusty-: amule10:29
dyn-afkEmask it always does that10:29
ladydoorJusty-: frostwire10:29
Justy-ladydoor, lol thanks10:29
Emaskit looked like it added more than one tho10:29
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dyn-afkit supports IPv6 right out of the box, just as Windows Vista will10:29
Flamekebabany suggestions regarding this?10:29
ladydoorjoe__: bitlbee, amsn, gaim, centericq10:29
Justy-ladydoor, which one of them do you suggest10:29
joe__joe__, sorry, is there any program i can use to do video conferencing, like with a windows user in msn, not ekiga?10:29
ladydoorJusty-: i've never used either10:30
ccureauI just did a dist-upgrade from debian to ubuntu on a box, and now the root filesystem isn't mounting right...it tried to mount as xfs.  I can mount it manually and then exit from busybox, and the sytem starts...any ideas?10:30
Emaskanyway i will try with the ip i have atm10:30
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ladydoorJusty-: also,  my preferences tend to be unpopular among ubuntu users when it comes to software10:30
Armstrong80ladydoor: its working perfectly, people like you will make the ubuntu project work. Thanks.10:30
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dyn-afklol @ ladydoor :P10:30
ladydoorArmstrong80: awwwww...thanks! i'm not really part of the project, but thank you!10:30
Armstrong80ladydoor: You were today.10:31
ladydoor:-)...glad to help10:31
amonkeyhow can i figure out which /dev/hd* are hds?10:31
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dyn-afkjoe__ ekiga uses sip, sip is an open standard for voip and such, it'll work on most clients for different operatingsystems ranging from ubuntu to winxp10:31
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ladydooramonkey: do you mean what the names of your harddrives are? what do you mean by that?10:32
ladydoorccureau: check your /etc/fstab to make sure it doesn't think it's xfs10:32
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bitninja707has anyone had the most recent update cause a loss of all databases in mysql?10:32
Flamekebabno one able to suggest why my LiveCD randomly hangs?10:32
ladydoorccureau: so less /etc/fstab, look at the filesystem type of your /10:32
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amonkeyladydoor, i have a few cd drives and i was wondering how to figure out which ones are actually attached to something10:32
dyn-afkamonkey wants to see which /dev/hd* is a hd and which is an optical drive ?10:32
amonkeydyn-afk, yeah10:33
dyn-afkit somewhat depends on the IDE channel10:33
ladydooramonkey: ok...one thing you might do, if they do mount, is to check fstab. less /etc/fstab10:33
dyn-afkthe first hd is hda, the second hdb, etc.10:33
ladydooramonkey: that could possibly show you which ones mount where10:33
amonkeyladydoor, they aren't in fstab our they'd be mounted10:33
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dyn-afkthe simplest solution is to start the disk tool in ubuntu10:33
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bitninja707when i rebooted this morning after apt update ALL my databases were gone, including the one which lists users and permissions10:33
dyn-afkwhich is in System > Administration > Disks10:33
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ccureauladydoor: /etc/fstab is fine10:34
amonkeydyn-afk, perfect, thanks10:34
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dyn-afkyou can also try the device manager in that same menu (System > Administration)10:34
DigitalNinjaI've got a LVM system using LILO and when it boots all I get is L99999999. What's going on here?10:34
ladydooramonkey: well, i didn't know they weren't. i'm sorry. try inserting a disc in one of them and checking dmesg | tail; or maybe you could do sudo fdisk -l hd? for each harddrive10:35
dyn-afkdo you have a /boot that isn't on the LVM  DigitalNinja ?10:35
ladydoorccureau: so it's got the right filesystem type? :-( i've got no idea in that case10:35
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ccureauladydoor: yes, it's ext3 in there...puzzling10:35
DigitalNinjadyn-afk: No!10:35
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dofustjena!!!10:35
ClayGhey, anyone remember where the "log in as new user" or different user is located in the gnome menu<s>10:35
ClayG?10:35
DigitalNinjadyn-afk: lilo will boot the system.10:36
dyn-afkthen that's why it doesn't work DigitalNinja10:36
dyn-afkyou need a /boot which is outside the LVM10:36
ladydoorccureau: weeeeeeeird...ok, check /boot/grub/menu.lst and see whether there's some weird option in the parameters for the kernel you're using10:36
dyn-afkeven if you use lilo10:36
dyn-afkI ran into the same problem10:36
DigitalNinjadyn-afk: Well, I've go another system with /boot on the lvm and it works fine.10:36
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bitninja707hmm...anyone know where to look for lost mysql databases?10:36
dyn-afkI'musing a /boot and swap outside the LVM setup and I can use GRUB10:36
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dyn-afkthe machine is now booting and running perfectly10:36
kupesoftis there a repo which installs the latest version of php?10:36
ccureauladydoor: I copied it from a working ubu system...10:36
VonGuardhello, i'm wondering where the gnome network manager drop down menu lives10:37
dyn-afkthe problem is that Linux is not able to boot from LVM10:37
dyn-afkthe same goes for softRAID10:37
lincsiehi, I would like to have AGP support (I've a nvidia nforce3 chipset). unfortunately, there seems to be no driver for it. any help ?10:37
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ladydoorccureau: :-(...good luck10:37
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ccureauladydoor: thanks. :)10:37
bitninja707VonGuard:  System > Administration10:37
VonGuardthanks10:37
ladydoorccureau: well, no problem10:38
VonGuardoh wait10:38
VonGuardno10:38
cafuegodyn-afk: Linux boots fine of software, as long as you use the (better) in-kernel md driver.10:38
dyn-afktry comparing the working machine with the not-working machine DigitalNinja10:38
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DigitalNinjadyn-afk: I did the install from the server CD.10:38
VonGuardbitninja707, i'm looking for that new network menu10:38
dyn-afkuhm, true cafuego I forgot that :P10:38
VonGuardthe one that can see wireless access points10:38
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DigitalNinjadyn-afk: How do I get into the broken one?10:38
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dyn-afkyou don't, normally you'd use the livecd10:38
VonGuardi had it in my gnome bar, but i removed it because it seemed broken. now i want to put it back in the menu, and i've no idea where the app lives10:38
dyn-afkbut it doesn't recognize LVM like most things don't10:38
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dyn-afkso LVM is not such a good idea to use10:39
bitninja707VonGuard:  not sure...im looking for it now...along with all my sql databases which have disappeared10:39
dyn-afkVonGuard try rightclicking on the panel10:39
VonGuardi did10:39
kitcheBrandonnn did you find that script?10:39
dyn-afkand choose "add to panel..."10:39
DigitalNinjaI'll give the CD a try in my working system10:39
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VonGuardhave you checked in whatever file the mysql.conf would be?10:39
dyn-afkit probably is an applet10:40
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VonGuarddyn-afk, I know how to add applets10:40
Justy-hi10:40
VonGuarddyn-afk, i'm seeking to find a particular applet10:40
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VonGuardthat has gone missing10:40
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dyn-afkyou can also try running it with alt-f210:40
dyn-afkthe network applet VonGuard ?10:40
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VonGuardhmmm10:40
VonGuardyeah, but not the standard one10:40
VonGuardthat newfangled one automatix installs10:40
Justy-question: i am behind of a router which has firewall, do i need a firewall for ubuntu too? like firestarter10:41
VonGuardi think it's called the gnome network manager10:41
VonGuardor something like that10:41
dyn-afkI think it was something like nm-applet you had to start using alt-f210:41
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VonGuardhmmm10:41
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VonGuardyay!10:41
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dyn-afkNetworkManager Applet 0.6.2 << that one10:41
VonGuarddyn-afk, ++10:41
VonGuardgot it10:41
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VonGuardthanks10:41
dyn-afkI'm using that one too :P10:42
mati1Can anyone help me get firewire going plz?10:42
dyn-afkgreat applet10:42
bitninja707dyn-afk:  you know anything about disapearing mysql databases?10:42
VonGuardwell10:42
VonGuardit kinda is10:42
dyn-afkbut it isn't in the applets list so you have to start it manually with alt-f210:42
VonGuardit doesn't play well with my wireless stuff10:42
j3ckylAnyone know how to disable PCMCIA as a boot option? I have tried NOPCMCIA=yes and pcmcia=off10:42
VonGuardi am still having wireless issues, particularly with wpa10:42
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dyn-afkI'm  not that good at mysql bitninja70710:42
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kitcheVonGuard: ok make sure that you have wpa_supplicant installed first10:43
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dyn-afkVonGuard did you install the wpa supplicant?10:43
VonGuardnope10:43
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VonGuardlemme go do that10:43
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dyn-afkyou definitely need that one :P10:43
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dyn-afkdunno if that one also does wpa2 though10:44
VonGuardoop, already installed10:44
dyn-afk!wpa10:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:44
farchordWindows Product Activation!?10:44
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farchordNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! ^10:44
kitcheok VonGuard just wanted to check you probably have to configure wpa correctly10:44
dyn-afktry the link from ubotu VonGuard10:44
La_PaRCa-WoRKHey guys. I need some help. I have a series of text lines and I need to extract _only_ the portions that conform to a regexp. What would be the best way to achieve that?10:44
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VonGuardok, thanks10:44
segfault_La_PaRCa-WoRK, perl10:44
dyn-afknope, WPA: security protocol for wifi10:45
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farchordI know ^^10:45
farchordwas jk10:45
dyn-afk:P10:45
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treitterin a regular Dapper system, are all the files in /dev generated on boot?10:45
Kyralyah..its udev10:45
La_PaRCa-WoRKsegfault_: dont have time to learn it right now. Is it doable with any combination of awk/grep/sed or similars?10:45
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segfault_treitter, yes its udev10:45
Kyralheck they are generated on the fly10:45
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dyn-afkLa_PaRCa-WoRK try using awk for the text filtering10:45
segfault_La_PaRCa-WoRK, of course10:45
treitterKyral: thanks. Just checking - I remember a few years ago, some of the files were still permanent10:46
treitterwasn't sure if we'd gotten past that yet10:46
sagarpthe edgy beta1 installer doesnt see one of my hard drives, the one i want to install to...it's a regular ATA hard drive, nto sata10:46
La_PaRCa-WoRKdyn-afk: example? I am a little at a loss here because this doesnt have any obvious separators10:46
ladydoorj3ckyl: you might try just noacpi, without the "=yes"10:46
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dyn-afkman awk and search for other awk resources on the internet :P10:46
dyn-afkawk has many options10:46
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dyn-afkbut it's easier then learning perl I think10:46
ClayGhey, anyone remember where the "log in as new user" or different user is located in the gnome menu<s>10:47
dyn-afkhit the shutdown button in ubuntu ClayG10:47
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matt00sorry i use kde10:47
ladydoorClayG: what exactly are you trying to do? run a single program as a different user?10:47
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dyn-afkthen choose the option to switch user10:47
La_PaRCa-WoRKdyn-afk:  I know. will the index() function on awk accept regexps?10:47
dyn-afkI have no idea La_PaRCa-WoRK10:48
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ladydoorj3ckyl: you might try noacip, without the "=yes"10:48
SpudDogg27 minutes to crack my 128-bit WEP network...good or bad?10:48
ClayGdyn-afk, that works, but im looking to find the direct command10:48
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dyn-afkit's just awk then the options10:48
ClayGladydoor, im trying to log in as a different user then when i logout be back in my normal user10:48
dyn-afkbut it's best to put those options in a seperate file10:48
ClayGi have a girlfreind with prying eyes, i want to create a new user and have everything that might be considered "bad" under that name10:48
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dyn-afkthen use "awk -f filewithoptions" as the command10:48
ladydoorClayG: ok, i'm not really sure how that works in anything other than a terminal. sorry10:49
j3ckylAnyone  know how to disable PCMCIA as a boot option?10:49
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ClayGso if i forget to clear my cache and goto work, i dont have to worry abotu her looking at my web history and seeing craigslisting, lols10:49
ClayGor pictures10:49
Harksawhmmm, I have no trouble playing mp3s, but I can't burn them to a CD in serpentine (it says "Unsupported file type, If you're having problems opening certain files make sure you have the GStreamer plugins needed to decode them.")10:49
ladydoorClayG: oh really.10:49
SpudDoggeveryone:  it took me 27 minutes to crack my 128-bit WEP network...good or bad?10:49
dyn-afkClayG there is such an option in the menu10:49
_incubus_is there anyone who could explain me how do download torrents via teminal?10:49
dyn-afkbut you need to display it first10:49
ClayGnot like that but if someone responds to myspace, she sees it and thinks im doing bad stuff10:49
kitcheClayG: just encrypt your hard drive if you are really worried10:49
ClayGdyn-afk, where is it10:49
ladydoor_incubus_: with what command? bittornado? rtorrent?10:49
dyn-afkyou need to rightclick on the top menu "applications..." and choose "edit menus"10:49
_incubus_rtorrent10:49
dyn-afkthen choose "System Tools"10:50
ladydoor_incubus_: ah. sorry, i've got nothing.10:50
kitcheSpudDogg: not really since it sends vis of the key every 5 minutes or so each time it sends a different bit10:50
dyn-afkthen mark the option "Run as a different user"10:50
ClayGdyn-afk, awsome10:50
ClayGthis is exactly what i need10:50
La_PaRCa-WoRKdyn-afk: for the record: index() doesnt support regexps but match does10:50
dyn-afkwhen you want to run a program as a different user then select that option in the menu10:50
ClayGlooks like there are a few new user options here10:50
ladydoorClayG: yeah, now you can deceive your girlfriend with impunity10:50
ClayGi want a whole new session10:50
dyn-afkyou need to put in the username and the program10:50
ClayGgood10:51
SpudDoggkitche:  in those 27 minutes i was injecting also...got about 500,000 ivs before the key could be recoverd10:51
ladydoorClayG: be proud.10:51
_incubus_but i could go for bittorrent if you know that one. i just installes rtorrent, no stress installing other one10:51
dyn-afkwhich is also very useful if you want to run something as root10:51
ClayGi will, talking to you on here is "deciet"10:51
ClayGany female name, so that will come in handy10:51
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dyn-afkyou can not only do it on the commandline but also in GNOME :)10:51
ladydoorClayG: maybe if i were hitting on you.10:51
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dyn-afkLa_PaRCa-WoRK I have no idea what index() is actually :P10:51
ClayGno, just having a female name would bring a few hours of questions, not even you talking to me, just seeing it in the room list woiuld bring "who is that, why do you like "chatrooms"10:52
dyn-afkbut ClayG you can also use the different workspaces10:52
ladydoor_incubus_: well, bittornado's easy...you just cd to the torrent dir and do btdownloadcurses.bittornado filename.torrent. or you can do btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado . to launch a whole dirful10:52
dyn-afkjust switch workspace :)10:52
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ClayGdyn-afk, but that still is using the same instance of firefox or whatever10:52
jvaioo man! i'm in a cyber cafe' this guy just asked me what windowblinds skin i was using, & how he could get xp like mine.. i laughed on the inside10:52
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ClayGif she types in msn.com and hits m and myspace.com comes up10:52
ladydoor_incubus_: (with the actual--that wasn't a typo)10:52
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ClayGi get in trouble10:52
dyn-afkROFL @ jvai now that's a good one !10:53
jvailol10:53
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ladydoorjvai: what's windowblinds?10:53
ClayGif she looks on my desktop and sees a picture of a female freind and i was dumb enough not to erase it, i get in trouble10:53
gnomefreakClayG: in firefox choose clear settings everytime firefox closes10:53
dyn-afkClayG try setting up firefox to erase your browser history at exit10:53
ClayGi normally do10:53
kitchejvai: just say your using linux then he'll go away10:53
dyn-afkthat also helps :P10:53
_incubus_ladydoor: tnx, i'll look into that10:53
ladydoor_incubus_: and *i'll* look into rtorrent :-)10:53
jvaiwindowblinds is a skinnable theme for windows10:54
ClayGeither way if i have a user besides mine, that will suffice10:54
piratepenguinthat people actually shell out money for..10:54
jvaii hear ya @ kitche10:54
dyn-afkwindowblinds is not a theme, it's a theme engine10:54
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ClayGi know if im logged in she can do whatever she wqants10:54
dyn-afklog your workstation ClayG10:54
dyn-afksetup an account just for her10:54
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ClayGbut she doesn't know (i think) how to find stuff, thougb with ubuntu it woudlnt be hard to hit places then back one directory up and see another username in the /home dir10:54
dyn-afkand use the userswitching10:54
ClayGhave to .things10:55
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dyn-afkhmmz, there is an option to create an account without a homedir10:55
ClayGor a diff one10:55
dyn-afkhell, even without a shell :P10:55
ClayGi think10:55
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jvaigood corection Dyn, cause u cant skin windows10:55
kitcheyeah just don't give the user a /home but you can put home directories anyplace if you wish10:55
_incubus_%y test10:55
dyn-afkbut that might be a problem if you want to start a programm though10:55
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mikeyI installed java 5.0 but frostwqire keeps telling me that I need jre 1.4.2 or better. How can I switch the platform?10:55
dyn-afkjvai you can skin windows10:56
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dyn-afkbut it's very very basic10:56
ClayGif you create another user, give him/her admin powers10:56
jvaioverlay it10:56
ladydoordyn-afk: there is an option to create it without a home dir10:56
Dr_willis!java10:56
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:56
ClayGcan you remove them from your original account10:56
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ClayG?10:56
ladydoordyn-afk: check the adduser manual...just a sec10:56
kitchemikey: well java 5.0 doesn't exist10:56
dyn-afkit's more like choosing different colors en lettertypes10:56
dyn-afk*and10:56
Dr_willismikey,  you need to 'update your alternatives' like that url mentons10:56
dyn-afkI know ladydoor10:56
dyn-afkthe graphical one in ubuntu can do the same10:56
ladydoordyn-afk: oh! i thought you were asking. and i prefer not to give graphical instructions, as it's confusing to be all like "click here...no, there!"10:57
ladydoor:-/10:57
jvaiis Eft stable now?10:57
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ladydoorjvai: nope! it's beta10:57
dyn-afkthe graphical one is a nice tool, you can actually set different permissions10:57
mikeyDr_willis: which url?10:57
dyn-afkI know ladydoor10:57
jvaisnap.10:57
dyn-afkcommandline stuff is easier to explain10:57
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dv_hell no10:57
Dr_willismikey,  the !java one10:57
Dr_willis!java10:58
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:58
kronozrelativly stable :p10:58
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joe__is there any program i can use to do video conferencing, like with a windows user in msn, not ekiga?10:58
ClayGdyn-afk, the new user login says it only works from the console, is this not xdmcp'able? is that what it is saying?10:58
dv_joe__, vlc?10:58
dv_I mean, VideoLAN is for video transmissions actually10:59
joe__i was thinking more chat software10:59
dyn-afkthe new user login?10:59
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green_earzjoe__:   gnomemeeting   may be what you are looking for11:00
E-maskhi11:01
ravenousi have a dell laptop with intel graphics, using the laptop screen plus tv out to a crt, the laptop is widescreen though, anyway to set a different resolution for the crt monitor on the tvout?11:01
dyn-afklol @ green_earz11:01
[GuS] Ekiga11:01
E-maskdepends on driver?11:01
dyn-afkgnomemeeting is nowcalled ekiga :P11:01
[GuS] yeah...11:01
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joe__green_earz, that is ekiga: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEkiga&ei=kokdRbjdCISe-gGq-Iz7Cw&sig=__oa1f82LEBVZ_Kyc980c3E-sN3z0=&sig2=_8vXs94hf1juW4HXA40UiQ11:01
dyn-afkbut it is a good webcam/chat application11:01
dyn-afknot to mention voip11:01
[GuS] update yours DB please :P11:01
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thneewhat do i have to do to get wlan working on a macbook?11:02
E-maskhi11:03
kropahello is ther any body from poland11:03
thneemadwifi and new_wlan_scan_sta is already in11:03
E-maski managed to get online on ubuntu again11:03
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E-maskusing the suggestion - to use the ip address and gateway that puppy linux found via dhcp11:03
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lebafarI tryed to edit group file with vigr but I got a 'shell return 127'11:04
kropaa have problem with instal my printer11:04
lebafarAnd a 'shell return 102'11:04
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kropais there anybody who can help me11:04
kropa?11:04
segfault_!ask11:04
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:04
lebafarIt says '/proc must be mounted'11:05
E-maskany ideas why dhcp on ubuntu won't work when it works perfectly on puppy?11:05
E-masksame host11:05
E-masksame pc11:05
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E-maskworked perfectly before11:05
robbbbanyone got any tutorials on enlightened-gnome?11:05
kropaok11:05
segfault_lebafar, type mount in console and make sure u have proc maounted11:05
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kropaok wic mam was gboko11:06
kropaza t wasza pomoc11:06
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robbbbi want the enlightenment background to take preference over the gnome background11:06
lebafarAnd 'To mount /proc at boot you need an /etc/fstab line like: /proc /proc proc defaults In the meantime11:06
kropaszkoda e ubuntu nie jest w caoci przetumaczone na polski11:06
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E-maskany ideas?11:06
Admiral_Chicago!po11:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:06
Admiral_Chicagoerr i think thats off11:07
lebafarsegfault, It says /proc is a directory11:07
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lebafarI will change my nick!11:07
E-maskthere must be a reason why dhcp has stopped working on my ubuntu install?11:07
dyn-afk<thnee> what do i have to do to get wlan working on a macbook? << an awful lot since Apple keeps the Airport Express specs closed11:07
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dyn-afkit refuses to tell the open source community anything about them11:07
segfault_lebafar, after typing mount u should see a line like this in the output proc on /proc type proc (rw)11:07
robbbbanyone know how to change the font color in gnome-panel?11:07
wetducksegfault, did you got that?11:07
segfault_wetduck, yea11:08
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dyn-afkso to put it simply thnee: get something like a wifi usb stick if you want wifi in ubuntu on a mac11:08
segfault_wetduck, , after typing mount u should see a line like this in the output proc on /proc type proc (rw)11:08
dyn-afkthe airport extreme card doesn't work11:08
wetducksegfault, I got sh: /proc: is a directory11:08
dyn-afkthe old airport (802.11b) card does work in linux though11:08
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segfault_wetduck, what did type in consoe?11:08
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wetducksegfault, mount proc11:09
segfault_wetduck, no just type mount11:09
spire_I try to configure cups through the web interface. But it ask for a username/password for CUPS. What are these / how do I set them?11:09
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wetducksegfault, ok, now there is a list...11:09
segfault_spire_, this is a known issue with ubuntu cups check the forums11:09
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wetducksegfault, proc on /proc type proc (rw)11:10
wetducksegfault, what is proc?11:10
TiG4!flash911:10
TiG4!flash11:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:10
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segfault_wetduck, i missed the beginning of ur questions what were u doing to get this error?11:11
dyn-afkTiG4 there is only Flash 7 for Linux11:11
TiG4ugh11:11
dyn-afkAdobe/macromedia refuses to update flash11:11
kitcheproc is a filesystem where the kernel keeps all of it's runtime wetduck11:11
LiraNunacause they suck11:11
TiG4i thought I read somewhere on uf that someone got 9 working11:11
dyn-afkthey say they are working on it11:11
kitchedyn-afk: umm they are updating flash11:11
dyn-afkI know11:11
wetducksegfault, I want to insert my name in group file to get admin access privileges.11:11
LiraNunadyn-afk, they shown a video of flash 8 working in ubuntu11:11
wetducksegfault, and I am booting froma rescue cd.11:11
dyn-afkjust like they were updating the mac flashplayer to 8.5 which got canceled in the end and changed to version 911:12
spire_Also, there has been introduced a bug with ipp printing for several months ago. Does anyone know when there will come a bugfix?11:12
dv_LiraNuna, with wine and a windows-firefox?11:12
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dv_spire_, yeah, a nasty one11:12
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dv_and no one wants to fix it11:12
LiraNunadv_, don't think so11:12
dv_:/11:12
dyn-afkI tried that dv_ but I didn't have any sound11:12
dv_maybe all fixes go to edgy11:12
godfatherhey guys,,,a question11:12
dyn-afkI can't change anything on the sound tab of winecfg because it'll crash winecfg11:12
dyn-afk:(11:12
godfatherdoes ekiga use the same protocol of skype11:12
godfatherekiga uses sipprotocol11:13
jribdyn-afk: error message?11:13
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ClayGman anyone use opera as their main browser?11:13
kitchesip is actually used by all voip companies anymore godfather11:13
kitcheClayG: I use it11:13
ClayGI am almost ready to let it take firefox's place11:13
dyn-afk<jrib> dyn-afk: error message? << nothing, just a crash11:13
wetducksegfault_, did you get it?11:13
dyn-afkit hangs, it closes, that's it11:13
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ClayGkitche, is there a way to tell it to send tabs in the background like firefox does? I am  looking through prefs and still cant find it11:14
ClayG?11:14
segfault_wetduck, dont edit group file by hand, chroot into ur env and and use usermod11:14
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kitcheClayG: not that I know of11:14
dyn-afkbut I'mnot using wine that much so I really don't care about that :P11:14
ClayGthat is one of the things i hate11:14
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LobsterClayG rightclick and open in background tab11:14
ClayGi know you can with the mouth, by selecting it but you can't control-t a new tab in the background11:14
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dyn-afkgodfather ekiga uses sip which is an open standard for VoIP11:14
ClayGby the mouse, lolk11:14
ClayGyes, like that Lobster11:14
segfault_wetduck, u need to chroot becuase u want to edit ur system settings not the system settings of the live cd11:14
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dyn-afkSkype uses its own closed proprietary protocol11:14
ClayGbut i want to be able to do the toehr11:15
ClayG:(11:15
E-mask*activating interface "eth0"11:15
E-maski really really really really really really really HATE network-admin11:15
E-maskit never works11:15
E-mask:(11:15
E-masksomeone up high should be poked....to prioritise such things11:15
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E-mask...11:15
E-maskhmm then it says The interface eth0 is active11:15
godfatherso i can't call a skype user using ekiga11:15
E-maskbut it damn well isn't11:15
godfather?11:15
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wetducksegfault_, I don't think I was able to edit users. I had a oem instalating and after intalling my first user I got problem to use sudo for example.11:15
dv_the ipp bug is really bad. and  no one has fixed it for months. this is a real argument against ubuntu :/11:15
dyn-afkif you want to use skype then you have only one option:use the official skype software11:15
ladydoor!language11:15
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:15
dyn-afkno godfather you can't call a skype user with ekiga11:15
godfatherah ok11:15
dyn-afkif you want to call a skype user you have to use skype11:15
segfault_wetduck, that is not an issue with adding users, u must setup sudo for the new user seperately from adding the user11:15
dyn-afkthere is no alternative11:15
godfatherperfect i get it11:15
segfault_wetduck, man visudo for that11:15
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LiraNuna!lol11:15
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:16
kitchewell you can call a skype user if they have skype in :)11:16
orbishwow i really screwed up my system11:16
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dyn-afkif you want skype in ubuntu download the 1.3 beta version for debian from the official skype site godfather11:16
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dyn-afkthe 1.3 beta version has proper sound support11:16
wetducksegfault_, and how do I do that? Do I need a rescue disk?11:16
netGHi I really need help...11:16
segfault_wetduck, no u dont, boot into ur system and read man visudo11:16
godfatherok11:16
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godfatheri've just installed it11:17
godfatherbut thelinux version doesn't support the webcam option11:17
netGI can't update from security.ubuntu.com11:17
orbishok, first of all i learn by screwing things up... so... onto my question:  i deleted /var/cache.  apt will not run.  any way to regenerate it?11:17
segfault_wetduck, u need an entry in the sudoers file for that user, man visudo will tell you how to do that11:17
netGIs there a running mirror???11:17
wetducksegfault_, ok. I think I might need you to solve it with me, could you please?11:17
dyn-afktrue godfather11:17
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dyn-afkthe mac and linux skype versions are behind the windows version11:17
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dyn-afkanother reason why one shouldn't be using skype11:18
dyn-afkit really sucks11:18
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godfatheru're right11:18
tannerldon linux yes :P11:18
segfault_wetduck, feel free to read sudo and visudo documentation, if u still cannot do it then i will help11:18
godfatherbut anyone exspecially windows users use skype11:18
rexbronhello, Is it possible to fix an edgy upgrade from a live cd?11:18
godfatherso....11:18
sureshothey all i have tried to follow the instruction to install compiz and i dont even get an error message and dont know how to start it can someone help please11:18
wetducksegfault_, ok. Thank you for now.11:18
segfault_wetduck, np11:18
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, yes, whats wrong with it?11:18
wetduckOr by now?11:18
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jasperhowdy11:19
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rexbronAdmiral_Chicago: basically, for some reason, ( dont know why i did not pick up on this) the main  repo gpg key was not accepted,11:19
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rexbronand i have no kdm or internet11:20
rexbronjust a command line11:20
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kitchesureshot: you using gnome?11:20
sureshotyes11:20
rexbroncant reconfigire my xserver as it says it is not installed11:20
sureshotkitche yes i am11:20
Admiral_Chicagohave you tried sudo starx? your x configuration may be worng11:20
kitcheok hang on a sec sureshot you have to use a script to use compiz11:20
Admiral_Chicagookay try sudo aptitude purge xserver11:20
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get install xserver11:21
sureshotkitche thanks11:21
rexbroncan i do that from a live cd11:21
Admiral_Chicagosudo dpkg11:21
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rexbronas i have no internet when i boot from the hard drive11:21
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Admiral_Chicagoerr sudo dpkg-recnfigure xserver-xorg11:21
dyn-afk+o11:21
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, ah yes that wont work11:21
kitchesureshot: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?pid=217511:22
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godfatherguys a programmelike amsn running on linux?11:22
tannerldya got gaim11:22
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sureshotkitche going there now i will read it and do what ever.. i an pretty new to this but i will try11:22
kitchegaim doesn't work with msn anymore11:22
E-maskhellooo11:22
rexbronI am rather SOL, as I need to get the internet, but cant connect to get the packages11:22
E-maskis there anyone here who knows anything about DHCP??11:22
rexbronthat would give me the drivers11:22
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Admiral_Chicagorexbron, how do you normally connect?11:23
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reptyleE-mask, whats the problem?11:23
E-maskI have an ubuntu install that has started to refuse to find a DHCP server11:23
E-maskit says no lease is offerred11:23
rexbroneth011:23
E-maskthe DHCP server is there11:24
rexbronAdmiral_Chicago: eth011:24
E-maskPuppy Linux finds it fine11:24
E-maskit has worked for probably over a year now... can't remmeber when i installed ubuntu11:24
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E-maskam gonna try a different client just for fun...... but it probably won't work11:24
Admiral_Chicagono i mean pppoe, dhcp etc11:24
rexbrondhcp11:24
Admiral_Chicagothen why can't it connect?11:25
Admiral_Chicagoah wait11:25
Admiral_Chicagoi get you11:25
dyn-afktry restarting the dhcp server11:25
dyn-afkthen try again11:25
rexbroncommand?11:25
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dyn-afkit might be too slow or something for ubuntu11:25
dyn-afkor it's just picky11:25
E-maski don't own the dhcp server11:25
E-maskand it is not slow11:25
E-maski am at uni11:25
reptyleE-mask, i would generally start by setting the machine to a static address and then see if networking actually works.  Its possible there is a physical issue (cabling etc), or the drivers in the kernel are not working properly.  Or the dhcp server is no longer offering leases to that mac address.11:26
E-maskthe server is fine11:26
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mipstienopengl isn't working, i can not seem to turn on direct rendering. everything worked at one point :\11:26
E-maskthe dhcp server gives puppy linux a lease...11:26
E-maskon every boot11:26
dyn-afkdid you install any graphiccard driver that has opengl support mipstien ?11:26
E-maskbut ubuntu gets nothing11:26
reptyleE-mask, if you are at a uni, are you running puppy linux on the same machine?11:26
rexbronAdmiral_Chicago: how does one use a cd as a repo?11:26
E-maskyes11:26
mipstieni have SLI nvidia 6600GT's11:26
E-maski think that could've caused it11:27
E-masklol11:27
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mipstieni have been playing all games in wine OpenGL and other linux native games11:27
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dyn-afktry booting back into puppylinux E-mask11:27
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, you edit that in synaptic11:27
reptyleE-mask, you could try using the Ubuntu install/live cd to see if that works.11:27
dyn-afkin puppylinux you release the ip-adres for the interface11:27
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E-maskhow do i release it?11:27
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rexbronumm i only have the CLI11:27
dyn-afkthen boot back into ubuntu and try getting a lease11:27
sharky-how do i change my "real name" on the system?11:27
E-maskpuppy works fine every time11:28
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rexbronAdmiral_Chichago: umm i only have the CLI11:28
rexbronAdmiral_Chicago: umm i only have the CLI11:28
E-maskthe ubuntu live cd is no use to me............ i don't want to loose my ubuntu install11:28
Admiral_ChicagoCLI?11:28
rexbronCommand line11:28
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rexbron interface11:28
Admiral_ChicagoE-mask, you know the live CD doesn't install anything in your computer and leaves it perfectly intact11:28
E-maskyes11:29
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, ah yes, did you comment it out11:29
rexbroncomment what out?11:29
Admiral_Chicagocheck /etc/apt/sources.ist11:29
wetducksegfault, when I try to Share a folder I get this line: Failed to run shares-admin --add-share=/home/wetduck/Desktop/Shared11:29
Admiral_Chicago.list11:29
wetduckThe underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.11:29
rexbronI'll post my sources for the edgy install11:29
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sureshotkitche my startxgl.sh file does not have a xmodmap in it what is that11:30
btdown!pastebin11:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:30
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sureshotkitche it gives an error on -fullscreen11:30
Hoxzerhow do I take screen from one window only?11:30
kitcheyou mean a screenshot?11:30
Hoxzeryeha11:30
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, check /etc/apt/sources.list11:30
dyn-afkE-mask to release on ip-address try: dhclient -r eth011:31
dyn-afksee man dhclient for more information11:31
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kitcheHoxzer: well I use gimp's screenshot tool myself11:31
sureshotkitche are you to busy at the moment to answer a few questions from me ??? i understand11:32
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Hoxzerkitche: k, thx11:32
dyn-afkHoxzer the same as in windows:)11:32
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rexbronAdmiral_Chicago: this is my soruces.list http://pastebin.ca/18640211:32
dyn-afkprintscreen is the entire screen11:32
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, let me review it11:32
btdownmy edgy sources.list = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25248/  (the edgy canonical repo isnt up yet though...)11:32
kitchesureshot: I m going to dinner right now11:32
Admiral_Chicagobrb11:32
dyn-afkalt-printscreen is the window that has the focus11:32
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dyn-afkthe active window11:33
Hoxzerdyn-afk: ... yeah, but I was asking how do I take a screen from one window only...11:33
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sureshotok i will ask someone else in a few need to correct a few mistakes11:33
dyn-afkthat is from one window Hoxzer : alt-printscreen11:33
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dyn-afkthe same as in Windows11:33
Hoxzerdyn-afk: thx11:33
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dyn-afknp11:33
AscHow might I check the *actual* version of the kernel I'm using?11:33
Chamucoif I had stuff on a partition and it got formated on to reiser from ext3 can I recover files?11:33
Dr_willisChamuco, ick.11:34
dyn-afkAsc open a terminal and type uname -r11:34
BlissexChamuco: yes if you pay a lot of money :-)11:34
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sureshotmy startxgl.sh for compiz file does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that11:34
Chamucoto whom?11:34
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, you have a few errors, i'll fix them11:34
BlissexChamuco: however you might be able to recover it yourself,11:34
Chamucohow?11:34
rexbronok11:34
Chamucowho should i kill!11:34
Ascdyn-afk: Okay, thanks.11:34
rexbronbut that will not alow me to connect to the internet11:34
dyn-afknp11:34
rexbronAdmiral_Chicago: but that will not alow me to connect to the internet11:34
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, nevermind11:35
mcphailChamuco: have a look at photorec11:35
BlissexChamuco: if you have only formatted it, and done nothing else, try to use the 'e2fsck' option with the number of a secondary superblock.11:35
rexbronAdmiral_Chicago: What I need is if it is possible to do a dist-upgrade from a live cd to a not active os11:35
ChamucoBlissex: sorry should11:35
Admiral_Chicagosomeone was saying security.ubuntu.com wasn't working11:35
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ChamucoI install e2fsck11:36
BlissexChamuco: but whatever you do it is ESSENTIAL that you make an exact copy of that partition on another disk11:36
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rexbronthat way i could finnish the upgrade11:36
BlissexChamuco: and never ever run any recovery attempt on the original.11:36
rexbronAdmiral_Chicago: that way i could finnish the upgrade11:36
Admiral_Chicagobut i just got a hit off it11:36
BlissexChamuco: don't do anything that might modify the original.11:36
Chamucook11:36
BlissexChamuco: always try things on a copy.11:36
Chamucoso how would I copy the partition?11:36
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BlissexChamuco: do a web search for "secondary superblock" and recovery.11:37
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Chamucook11:37
E-maski am so close to just deleting ubuntu completely and starting again11:37
E-masknetwork admin is just horrible11:37
E-maskits useless11:37
E-maski don't think it helps that it has a default gateway choice and that keeps going blank11:37
BlissexChamuco: to copy a partition you can use 'cp' or 'dd' on the device file.11:37
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cypenguinhi ppl11:37
BlissexChamuco: but if you have to ask a question like this, get someone who is a system administrator to do things for you.11:37
cypenguini used to use pptpconfig to connect to vpn11:37
cypenguini upgrade to edgy11:38
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cypenguinand now it freeze after connection11:38
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Admiral_Chicagorexbron, brb i'm off doing a million things11:38
mcphailcypenguin: ask in #ubuntu+111:38
rexbronok11:38
cypenguinmcphail: ok11:38
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BlissexChamuco: I would very much suggest going to your local Linux User Group and asking for help from someone who is very familiar with partitions and filesystems.11:38
sureshotmy startxgl.sh for compiz file does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that11:38
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kablamhello guys11:39
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BlissexChamuco: BTW there is hope: most of the data on your partition is undamaged. formatting as ReiserFS only overwrites a few megabytes at the beginning of the partition.11:39
toubsuis there a hdparm type command for sata drives?11:39
kablam<--- ubuntu noob here asking for some help on formatting a new hd in my ubuntu server11:39
AscOkay, this is interesting.  I finally downloaded the latest kernel update that appeared in update-manager.  Then I recompiled from the source it put in /usr/src.  The resulting kernels are 2.6.15.27 (the one that it installed) and 2.6.15-7 (the one I compiled).  Did it download the wrong version of the source, or did it get misnamed somehow?11:39
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M_A_KI just installed kubuntu.  I like kde better than gnome, but do like some gnome apps.  How do I install gnome now?  What do I look for in synaptic?11:40
sureshotmy startxgl.sh for compiz file does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that11:40
Blissextoubsu: 'hdparm'11:40
sethkM_A_K, you don't need to11:40
dtshow do i make a cron job run every 5 minutes11:40
sethkM_A_K, just install the app11:40
modern2don't know11:40
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sethkM_A_K, the dependencies will take care of the rest11:40
Admiral_Chicagorexbron, if you want, find me in #ubuntu-chicago11:40
Admiral_Chicagoi'm afk11:40
dyn-afk2.6.16-27 is the latest official ubuntu kernel Asc11:40
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kablamso how do i partition and format my hdc when i do fdisk/dev/hdc i get error message11:40
Admiral_Chicagoless volume there too11:40
M_A_KOk, i installed "terminal" I prefer gnome terminal to Konsole.  Where is it?11:40
sethkM_A_K, I don't know the name of it, I use KDE.  try gnome-terminal11:41
dyn-afkAsc: your homebrew kernel is different from the official ubuntu one11:41
M_A_Knothing (at command line anyway).11:41
toubsuBlissex: i should say 'hdparm -i'11:41
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Ascdyn-afk: I compiled it from the source it downloaded with the kernel 2.6.15-27.  But it says that the one I compiled is version 2.6.15-7.11:42
jrib@lart seveas11:42
sethkM_A_K, I'll look up the command name.  anyone running gnome can use ps and tell you the name11:42
jriboops11:42
Blissextoubsu: depending on what you want to do try 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' or 'sdparm'11:42
dyn-afk<toubsu> is there a hdparm type command for sata drives? << no, sata will be seen as scsi, I don't know if it was freebsd that had sdparm or if it was ubuntu but that is the scsi alternative to hdparm11:42
dyn-afkhmm, that's weird Asc11:42
M_A_KThanks.11:42
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sethkM_A_K, I do show it as gnome-terminal.  are you sure you installed it?11:43
M_A_KI thought so.  I will try again.11:43
AscYeah, I thought so too.11:43
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mcphaildts: use */5 in the "minutes" column11:43
sureshotok i will ask someone else in a few need to correct a few mistakes11:43
kablamis there a grafic hd partitioning thingy like the one you use in the installation that you can access from the terminal?11:43
sethkM_A_K, ok, it is in /usr/bin/gnome-terminal on my box.11:43
sureshotmy startxgl.sh for compiz file does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that11:43
dtsmcphail: thank you11:43
wetduck!paste11:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:43
M_A_KThanks.  I guess It did not install.11:43
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M_A_KI am used to synaptic, not the default kde package manager.11:44
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sethkM_A_K, doesn't matter.  package name is also gnome-terminal11:44
AscWell, the changelog in the source archive says it's 15-27... maybe it's safe to assume there was a misnaming at some point.11:44
Peter77hi, I can't find the firewall in ubuntu11:44
M_A_KOk.11:44
dyn-afkkablam the graphical one that is used in the installer is called gparted11:44
sethkM_A_K, you can use synaptic, or just use apt-get at the command line, all the tools work regardless of which desktop you choose.11:44
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dyn-afkit's a graphical frontend for the commandline tool called parted11:44
kablamthx dyn11:44
M_A_KI am learning that.11:44
AscOh, I know how to check11:44
dyn-afkyou also have qtparted11:44
sethkM_A_K, I use synaptic on my kde boxes as well.  it's a good tool.11:44
M_A_KI like it.11:45
dyn-afkgparted is the graphical frontend that use gtk, qtparted uses qt11:45
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sureshotmy startxgl.sh file for compiz does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that11:45
dyn-afkbut there are more minor differences between them11:45
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kablamhmm i guess i have to install those dont seem to be installed11:45
AscHah, got it.  The eject button on my cd drive works, and that started happening when I upgraded to 2.6.1211:45
M_A_KYea....we have liftoff.11:45
M_A_KThanks11:46
kablamis it spt-get install gparted?11:46
Peter77wheres the firewall located in ubuntu?11:46
sethkM_A_K, np  :)11:46
kablami meen apt-get11:46
sethkPeter77, linux includes iptables, which is a sophisticated ip filter11:46
dyn-afkPeter77 by default there isn't any11:46
Jon4Hi there, I'm trying network 2 computers using a crossover cable. I've setup the ip in /etc/network/interfaces. Could now ping from one comp to the other. How do I navigate the file directory for the other computer to copy folder(s) across. Thanks11:46
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sethkPeter77,some people call that a firewall, although it isn't really.11:46
wetducksegfault_, are you there?11:46
dyn-afkwell, at least there isn't any firewall setup11:46
M_A_KMy first install was ubuntu (Gnome) and then I installed KDE.  I found that I like KDE better than gnome, so this time I installed kubuntu.11:46
sethkPeter77, but you can't run a real firewall on a box, a real firewall is a separate machine11:46
dyn-afkmostpeople install firestarter as a firewall11:46
Peter77ok, could I download firestarter then?11:46
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dyn-afkwhich is just a graphical frontend for iptables11:47
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dyn-afkyes Peter77 you can11:47
sethkM_A_K, I install from the regular disk anyway, I don't bother with a different cd.  I install the base system, then if I need a desktop on a particular box, I install it11:47
dyn-afkyou can install it from the repositories11:47
giggseyWhenever I reboot my ubuntu, it resets its keyboard layout to US, anyway I can force it to stick to UK11:47
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[GuS] firestarter is somekind avandoned...11:47
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dyn-afkyou might need to enable universe and multiverse11:47
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M_A_KWow, 118 updates available.  Guess it'll be a while.11:47
kablamPeter77: im using webmin and shorewall makes it easy11:48
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dyn-afkshorewall is a great alternative to firestarter :P11:48
Malachiladydoor, I've returned with no successed.11:49
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ladydoorMalachi: that stinks...what was your problem again?11:49
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ladydoorMalachi: (sorry)11:49
MalachiOpenoffice.11:50
frieekazoidhi11:50
MalachiI tried reinstalling openoffice like you said, and no success.11:50
kablamdyn-afk: how would yo ppartition and format hdc when fdisk/dev/hdc isnt flying i checked dmesg and hdc is my new 300gb drive acording to it11:50
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ladydoorMalachi: aha. hmmm...perhaps try re-installing ubuntu-desktop? it won't uninstall kubuntu-desktop11:50
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MalachiDid it.11:50
MalachiNo success.11:50
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sureshothey all i cant get compiz working and i dont know how to use past bin i have the errors if someone would help11:50
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dyn-afkso /dev/hdc is your 300G HD ?11:51
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Jon4Hi there, I'm trying network 2 computers using a crossover cable. I've setup the ip in /etc/network/interfaces. Could now ping from one comp to the other. How do I navigate the file directory for the other computer to copy folder(s) across. Thanks11:51
kablamacording to dmesg11:51
riddleboxhow do I reconfigure a package? like exim4?11:51
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dyn-afkJon4 enable samba on both machines or something like that11:51
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kablam[42949377.890000]  hdc: max request size: 64KiB11:52
kablam[42949377.930000]  hdc: 586072368 sectors (300069 MB) w/16384KiB Cache, CHS=36481/255/63, UDMA(100)11:52
kablamdyn-afk: thats from dmesg11:52
kablamso it should be it right11:52
sethkJon4, you have to use a network file system.  if both are running linux or unix, use NFS.  If one is running windows, use samba (unless you have nfs for windows, which is available but not free)11:52
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Jon4Both computers are kubuntu pcs. I figured it'll just be a simple act of plugging the network cable in. What's NFS??11:53
cafuegosethk: nfs for windows is free. But shit,11:53
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Peter77does gnome use a registry?11:53
_ph00I need an ubuntu version that wont update kernels11:53
dyn-afk<cafuego> sethk: nfs for windows is free. But shit, << microsoft made it free but later pulled the download11:54
Jon4All I'm trying to do is copy a folder across from one pc to the other. When I tried using sftp Iget "connection refused". Firewall already disabled on both computers.11:54
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dyn-afkso there isn't any nfs support anymore11:54
riddlebox_ph00, when you find that let me know11:54
cafuegoHmm.11:54
dyn-afkkablam your hd should be right yes11:54
sethkdyn-afk, there is nfs support from third parties, but they are not free11:54
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kablamok thx11:54
dyn-afkfdisk /dev/hdc should work though11:54
dyn-afktry gparted /edv/hdc instead kablam11:54
dyn-afksethk that's nice11:54
kablamUnable to open /dev/hdc11:55
kablamhmm maybe sudo first11:55
dyn-afkbut you can also search on the net to find the microsoft free download one11:55
_ph00because, my job includes installing stuff on 6-pack joe's computers, and I'm trying to push linux. I recommend ubuntu because I think it's very good distro for people coming from wiondows, so I often try to get them to insatll a dual boot11:55
sethkdyn-afk, ok, that one I didn't know about.11:55
dyn-afkkablam that would be wise to do :P11:55
xstIt seems that there might be a fix in the future for the CUPS printing-over-ipp bug in dapper. Does anyone know when it will be available? https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/cupsys/+bug/5582811:55
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Peter77whats apt-get?11:55
cafuegodyn-afk: Um, Services for UNIX 3.5 *is* available for download.11:55
AsymmetryPeter77, awesome.11:56
dyn-afkit still is?11:56
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cafuegodyn-afk: looking at it now11:56
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kablamthat worked better (/slap myself)11:56
dyn-afkI saw news messages on some technews sites that it wasn't available anymore11:56
cafuegoYup, works fine11:56
_ph00but, the problem is, that I set up a noob friendly grub screen, but with the next kernel upgrade that will switch back to the standard grub screen, which can confuse my 6-pack-joe users, so I need an ubuntu that won't upgrade kernels11:56
dyn-afkcould you give me the link cafuego I'll bookmark it :)11:56
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cafuegohttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/downloads/default.asp11:56
Asymmetry_ph00, remove the metapackage for the kernel.11:56
_ph00metapackage11:57
_ph00k11:57
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Asymmetry_ph00, want me to explain further?11:57
dyn-afkthnx cafuego11:57
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_ph00yup11:57
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_ph00I never removed a metapackage before...11:57
Peter77lol linus likes gnome :-)11:58
dyn-afkit's a shame though that the MS NFS support is 217MB big :X11:58
sethkdyn-afk, I guess you get what you pay for.  :)11:58
kablamdyn-afk: hmm made a primary partition .. how do i format the damn thing?11:58
cafuegodyn-afk: it's only 5Mb, the rest is work-around to have windows not crap itself when using a real network fs ;-)11:59
Asymmetry_ph00, you know how you have, say, a kernel package? That'd be this: linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-server11:59
_ph00yes11:59
_ph00I can recognize a kernel packge ok.11:59
Asymmetry_ph00, the metapackage for that would be: linux-image-amd64-server11:59
dyn-afkkablam that's a good question :P11:59
kablamhahaha11:59
_ph00without the kernel version?12:00
Asymmetry_ph00, no version number specified. That means on an upgrade, fetch the latest version.12:00
_ph00hm12:00
bwlanganybody have a lenovo z61?  How does ubuntu do with it.  I'm concerned about suspend, hibernate, and fast disk12:00
Asymmetry_ph00, if I remove linux-image-amd64-server, it'll stick with the specific kernel package i have installed, because it doesn't know to look for a new one.12:00
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_ph00but how do I keep ubuntu from upgrading kernels at all12:00
_ph00right12:00
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Asymmetry_ph00, that's exactly how. it won't upgrade kernels anymore, until you apt-get a specific kernel, or the metapackage.12:01

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