[12:01] <ladydoor> Die: /dev/sda1      /path/to/mountpoint/you/totally/already/created    auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=1000  0       0
[12:01] <Zoohouse> Nevermind, Just found a neat app: KTOONS
[12:01] <Die> paste it in?
[12:01] <ladydoor> Die: actually, cut out the uid bit
[12:01] <JacksLivr> hello all.... Question. If i installed ubuntu and wish I had installed kubuntu... do i need to start over? or can i fix this by uninstalling gnome and installing KDE?
[12:01] <SeanTater> Does anyone have a wireless G card that works easily with Linux, something you'd recommend?
[12:01] <seeking1> alephant: you are nothing more than a mentally ill, and condescending pride filled arrogant boy!  You suffer depression and mental sickness and I suggest you go away and take your medication boy!
[12:01] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:01] <enlaces> lidy
[12:01] <ladydoor> Die: please change it where appropriate. for example, please don't leave the imaginary path i put in there
[12:01] <alephant> lol
[12:02] <enlaces> hola
[12:02] <iLLf8d> heh
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> alephant: rtfm is NOT appreciated in here
[12:02] <iLLf8d> ladydoor, unless its an imaginary hd =P
[12:02] <SeanTater> !es > enlaces
[12:02] <seeking1> alephant: ppl with a low, unhealthy self esteem talk like you do, in a condesending manner!
[12:02] <Die> so.... dev/sda1  ??
[12:02] <seeking1> alephant: take your mental medication and go away
[12:02] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: you can uninstall gnome and install kde
[12:03] <ladydoor> Die: first of all, it's /dev/sda1. second, that's not imaginary (at least i hope it's not--you did check, right?). look at the SECOND path in there.
[12:03] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: installing kde and keeping gnome is easier though
[12:03] <ladydoor> Die: read the words in the second path
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Anyone with some bandwidth who can grab the PPC edgy beta ISO - please joing the swarm at http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-beta-desktop-powerpc.iso.torrent We need seeds!
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JacksLivr: Or you can just keep both or three or four
[12:03] <A-L-P-H-A> what's an uber flow charting app?
[12:03] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: install kubuntu-desktop
[12:03] <JacksLivr> and that will acomplish the same thing as if i had used kubuntu?
[12:03] <iLLf8d> my neighbor told me his powersupply died, i told him I had a spare and would fix it for them, but they said no I could have it. I came home and in front of my door was keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers (apparently he thought the pc tower was the power supply)
[12:03] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: yes
[12:03] <ladydoor> Die: the words that say "path to mountpoint you totally already created"
[12:03] <hockyhair> after installing some updates mplayer is running very slow, and xv and xover modes do not work xvinfo shows no adapters present, need help!
[12:03] <mon^rch> there is font inconsistancy if you use both gnome and kde...
[12:03] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: for even closer to the same thing, also install kdm
[12:04] <mon^rch> better to start over
[12:04] <Die> ya.... there   I put in /dev/sda1   right?   thats where my drive is..
[12:04] <JacksLivr> SeanTater: why keep gnome?
[12:04] <ladydoor> Die: yeah...i guess put it in pastebin after you're done.
[12:04] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: but it;s difficult to remove
[12:04] <Die> pastebin?
[12:04] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: /because it's difficult/
[12:05] <JacksLivr> SeanTater: ok, how much space am i using with it?
[12:05] <ladydoor> Die: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org...sorry
[12:05] <ladydoor> Die: and then send me the link
[12:05] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: probably not more than 300 MB
[12:05] <moonlite> nautilus burn tells me this: "Please replace the disc in the drive with a supported disc with at least 4529 MiB free". But the disk i put in was a DVD-R 4.7GB disk, so why is it complaining, any ideas?
[12:05] <thedash> how does one install motherboard drivers on linux?
[12:05] <Die> sorry man.... i don't get it?   what do you want me to paste?
[12:06] <mon^rch> JacksLivr, I would just start over with a kubuntu d/l it'll only take an hour...
[12:06] <alephant> thedash, you typically won't need to.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[12:06] <thedash> I am having some problems with my hardware, not sure the cause
[12:06] <Die> /dev/sda1      /media/scsidisk    auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=1000  0       0
[12:06] <alephant> peppo: what's the status of your problem?  I'm utterly lost in this window :-)
[12:06] <ladydoor> Die: yes, that was what i wanted you to paste. and i'm not a man; thus the nick.
[12:06] <ethos_> god I wish there was a way to remove those damn "leaving/entering" chats!
[12:06] <FlaX> when doing mkinitrd it gives me command not found is it possible to fix that?
[12:06] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: But if you do reinstsll and use kubuntu from scratch, DON'T FORGET TO BACKUP
[12:07] <Die> sorry.... it's a figure of speach...
[12:07] <Die> sry
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: yes you can
[12:07] <JacksLivr> SeanTater: is just installed ubuntu last night
[12:07] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: good
[12:07] <ladydoor> Die: that should work, though i notice you did keep the uid part. i guess that's fine, if you want it to be owned by you. ok, now you can mount it :-)
[12:07] <Die> I'm just too much of a hippy for computers I think
[12:07] <ethos_> Jack_sparrow:oh ya?
[12:07] <ladydoor> Die: i'm a total hippy
[12:07] <Die> lolz
[12:07] <JacksLivr> as long as it leaves my other partitions alone, ill be fine
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: Which IRC client do you use?
[12:07] <ladydoor> Die: lol...i'm not even kidding
[12:07] <alephant> Die: hippies were the original hackers
[12:07] <Die> so I should save and exit then?
[12:07] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: If you change distros often, you may want to have a data partition
[12:08] <Die> true
[12:08] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: um-
[12:08] <alephant> Die: you're among friends :-D
[12:08] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: I missed the above
[12:08] <Die> lolz
[12:08] <Die> thanks
[12:08] <ladydoor> Die: i'm just grumpy
[12:08] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:xchat-gnome...
[12:09] <alephant> So, does anybody have a clue about which linux-restricted-modules to use with a linux-image-server kernel?
[12:09] <Kojima-Kazuma> hey
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: So you would ask...  How do you turn off join part notifications in Xchat-Gnome..?
[12:09] <JacksLivr> SeanTater: I had a laptop with xp on it and one big partition. i resized it last night and made a 10GB for ubuntu and a 25 fat32 for data. the Xp still works fine.
[12:09] <seeking1> alephant: did you get my message?
[12:09] <Kojima-Kazuma> im having a problem installing sun java
[12:09] <Die> Oh no!!!!.....
[12:09] <seeking1> Kojima-Kazuma: its easy
[12:09] <sonium> can I block access to a specific host?
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: I personally use Konversation
[12:09] <seeking1> Kojima-Kazuma: get easyubuntu
[12:09] <SeanTater> JacksLivr: I keep 2 partitions for os's and one for data so I can (re)install whenever I like
[12:09] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:ya that what I meant
[12:09] <Die> I exited and It didn't save....
[12:09] <Die> OOPS...
[12:09] <seeking1> Kojima-Kazuma: go to #easyubuntu
[12:09] <alephant> sonium: you can set an iptables rule pretty darn easy for that
[12:10] <Kojima-Kazuma> ok
[12:10] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:havent checked that out yet
[12:10] <ladydoor> Die: well, luckily you pasted the line to the channel :-)
[12:10] <ladydoor> Die: so now you can paste it right back in
[12:10] <ladydoor> Die: and then you can mount it
[12:10] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:I probably should huh?
[12:10] <ladydoor> Die: good luck!
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: Someone will answer it
[12:10] <alephant> IIANM iptables -A OUTPUT -d piratez.quake.com -j DROP
[12:10] <Die> done...
[12:10] <Die> how do I save it?
[12:11] <ladydoor> Die: control-o
[12:11] <JacksLivr> part1: 47MB: dell rescue | part2: 25GB: XP | part3: 10GB ubuntu | part4: 1GB: swap | part5: 25GB :fat32 for data
[12:11] <hockyhair> i need somehelp getting mplayer to play at decent speeds again
[12:11] <Die> and    "enter"  ?
[12:11] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:well, I guess I should put more of an effort instead of crying wolf...
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ethos_: It will be in the settings
[12:11] <ladydoor> Die: i guess so
[12:11] <JacksLivr> i can install kubuntu on the 10GB with no prob and keep all the other stuff happy, right?
[12:12] <thedash> so, I am having some problems, and I can't seem to find the source.  I am trying to copy files from a USB2.0 drive to a SATA II drive, and while my math says it should finish in about 5 seconds, the "time remaining" bar says something usually around 1 hour, 35 minutes
[12:12] <Die> do I have to restart My PC?
[12:12] <mon^rch> yes j
[12:12] <Flannel> Die: right, it'll prompt you for a filename after the ^o
[12:12] <ladydoor> Die: nope! only for new kernels
[12:12] <surabachi> i am havin gmajor issues compiling gimmie bar, any help would be greatly apreciated. my problem is a huge mystery to most!!!!
[12:12] <Die> ok
[12:12] <ethos_> Jack_Sparrow:ya, i've been checking out all places I would think the setting would be at.  I just havent found it yet
[12:12] <Flannel> surabachi: what problems?
[12:12] <ladydoor> Die: so now do mount /dev/sda1
[12:12] <surabachi> Flannel, like afte rit compiles it wont run
[12:13] <Flannel> surabachi: what errors do you get?
[12:13] <surabachi> Flannel, i will send u a link to a more detailed explanation of my problem
[12:13] <ladydoor> Die: (you may need to use sudo)
[12:13] <randreas69> I'm going to reinstall, is there a fully automated way to get XGL working?
[12:13] <Flannel> !tell randreas69 about xgl
[12:13] <Die> ya.... when I go to mount it ... it does nothing...
[12:13] <surabachi> Flannel,  go here to see my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[12:14] <Die> what line would I type in?
[12:14] <Flannel> thedash: USB bandwidth isn't the same as transfer speed
[12:14] <randreas69> k ty
[12:14] <Hooked-on-GL> join #imp
[12:14] <ladydoor> Die: you mean it didn't mount? do df -h /media/whateverThatMountPointWas
[12:14] <alephant> thedash, how much are you trying to copy?
[12:14] <thedash> about 150 MB
[12:14] <surabachi> Flannel,  you get my link?
[12:14] <drew_> Does anyone know what the old worms-like tank game was called from windows 95-ish? And is there a port available for Linux?
[12:14] <ladydoor> Die: what's it spit out?
[12:14] <randreas69> I r**ed slackware to give it a try too.. no such luck
[12:14] <randreas69> I'm keeping my gentoo stable too
[12:15] <Die> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[12:15] <alephant> thedash, and have you wated out the usb transfer to see how long it actually takes?
[12:15] <ladydoor> Die: ok, "do" in this context means "type in." sorry i wasn't more clear
[12:15] <alephant> drew_: scorched earth!?!?
[12:15] <ladydoor> Die: mount /dev/sda1 . you may need to sudo it.
[12:16] <peppo> what to do if a friend can't even log in to the 1st console as root, and sudo is broken?
[12:16] <mon^rch> reinstall
[12:16] <mon^rch> :-)
[12:16] <alephant> peppo: try an Ubuntu rescue disk to see whether you can hand-fix...
[12:16] <surabachi> anyone good at compiling errors?
[12:16] <peppo> he's a novice
[12:16] <peppo> and I'm not there
[12:16] <alephant> ...but mon^rch may also be correct
[12:16] <alephant> :-D
[12:16] <ladydoor> peppo: actually, you can boot to the recovery-mode
[12:16] <peppo> how the hell can /etc/sudoers break?
[12:17] <Die> it's not doing anything.... just blinking.... not even going back to prompt.
[12:17] <thedash> also, my computer seems to "skip" a lot now.  If I tell it to do anything, it will freeze for 1-3 seconds, about once every 10 seconds
[12:17] <ladydoor> peppo: it's one of the options in grub. also, please don't curse.
[12:17] <Die> and my PC's freezing up....
[12:17] <alephant> thedash, wow, that sounds just like a problem I had with some old IBM hardware...
[12:17] <ladydoor> Die: errr...what kind of filesystem is it?
[12:17] <alephant> thedash: does the problem go away if you reboot, but then come back again after "a while"?
[12:17] <gimmulf> Whats the best backup tool to use?
[12:17] <ladydoor> Die: also, you *did* check to make sure it existed, right? you never did answer me
[12:17] <thedash> no, its immediate as far as I can see
[12:18] <new2linx> can some1 tell how to take a screenshot in xubuntu? when I hit the prt scrn button on my laptop nothing happens?
[12:18] <alephant> thedash: the slowdown is immediate?
[12:18] <thedash> and its not that old of hardware
[12:18] <Die> the sda1?   it's ubuntu... the whole thing
[12:18] <ladydoor> new2linx: does something happen or doesn't it
[12:18] <Die> ya it exists
[12:18] <new2linx> nothing happens
[12:18] <thedash> its only if I am doing something intensive, like copying files, or loading stuff
[12:18] <alephant> thedash: is your computer clock correct?
[12:18] <thedash> yes
[12:18] <new2linx> is that something I have to setup in  a keymapping file?
[12:18] <ladydoor> new2linx: yeat
[12:18] <alephant> thedash: so how long does your usb transfer actually take?
[12:18] <new2linx> ladydoor can you tell how?
[12:19] <ladydoor> Die: so what kind of filesystem is it?
[12:19] <thedash> its still trying to figure it out
[12:19] <Die> im not too sure... what is ubuntu by default?
[12:19] <new2linx> can someone help me map the print screen button to take a screenshot in xubuntu?
[12:19] <thedash> its been copying the first file [about 3 MB]  for the past 14 minutes
[12:19] <Die> the other drive is a brand newrive with only ubuntu on it
[12:19] <alephant> thedash: hm.
[12:19] <ladydoor> new2linx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237408 . replace the "mute sound" stuff with your button.
[12:20] <alephant> thedash: can you see any error messages in /var/log/syslog or dmesg?
[12:20] <Die> it's not NTFSanything
[12:20] <jimmy_neutron> anyone? im getting the error "network access denied" when i try to map a samba share
[12:20] <alephant> I need to go!
[12:20] <new2linx> ladydoor i'll check it out. is it going to self explanatory?
[12:20] <alephant> peppo, thedash, good luck
[12:20] <alephant> gotta run
[12:20] <ladydoor> Die: ok. is it still frozen? also, what environment are you in currently?
[12:20] <peppo> thanks
[12:20] <drew_> Is there a linux port available for scorched earth?
[12:20] <ladydoor> new2linx: i tried to make it that way...it starts a couple posts down, by LadyDoor
[12:20] <mon^rch> drew_,  yeppers
[12:21] <thedash> yes, dmesg returns a lot of errors
[12:21] <drew_> mon^rch, what's it called/
[12:21] <ladydoor> Die: i.e., are you on a livecd or something?
[12:21] <surabachi> i am having major gimmie compiling issues, please help!!
[12:21] <Die> im in GNOME  and it freezes in and out for 3 or 4 seconds at a time.... and it happensevery 10 second or so
[12:21] <mon^rch> scorched earth, actually
[12:21] <drew_> rofl.
[12:21] <new2linx> THANK YOU.
[12:21] <jimmy_neutron> im getting the error "network access denied" when i try to map a samba share, any ideas?
[12:21] <thedash> mostly like: [17190715.256000]  ata1: command 0x25 timeout, stat 0x58 host_stat 0x60
[12:21] <mon^rch> it's in the repos...
[12:21] <surabachi> Flannel, you back yet?
[12:22] <new2linx> ladydoor, next thing, i can't get an iso image mounted? i am using sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 FC3-i386-disc1.iso /mnt/iso
[12:22] <ladydoor> Die: that's truly bizarre. i'm really sorry, i've got nothing on that--theoretically, it should've worked if the computer was detecting it and it's formatted properly and all. i'd ask the whole channel.
[12:22] <new2linx> and it doesn't work?
[12:22] <ladydoor> new2linx: does /mnt/iso exist?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> new2linx: does the dir /mnt/iso exist?
[12:22] <ladydoor> new2linx: does it work or doesn't it?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:23] <harisund> What does -o loop mean in a mount command?
[12:23] <mon^rch> drew_,  reprint... it's called scorched3d
[12:23] <ladydoor> new2linx: if something doesn't work, you don't have to *ask* us whether it works or not--a question mark means it's a question.
[12:23] <new2linx> ladydoor yes, this is what it says. mount: Not a directory
[12:23] <Die> I had it working yesterday just fine.... but the person who helped me gave me a  waebsite.... I lost the site though......
[12:23] <eurytus> to use a file as a loopback device
[12:23] <Die> it was really simple too.
[12:23] <new2linx> doesn't work~!
[12:23] <surabachi> i have errors when trying to run gimmie bar after i compile it, and make it?
[12:23] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[12:23] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:23] <GameOver69> can anyone help me with the following error? http://pastebin.com/796420
[12:23] <ladydoor> new2linx: right, so does the dir exist?
[12:24] <ladydoor> new2linx: (ls /mnt...if it doesn't spit anything out, it doesn't exist)
[12:24] <new2linx> ladydoor, i meant to write a !
[12:24] <jimmy_neutron> can someone help me plz? i get the network access denied when i try to mnt samba share in win. help!
[12:24] <thoreauputic> new2linx: sudo mkdir /mnt/iso
[12:24] <matt__> how do I install flash 7 on breezy??
[12:24] <ladydoor> new2linx: fair enough
[12:24] <Die> im gonna try a restart....
[12:24] <Die> that always helps.
[12:24] <thoreauputic> !flash
[12:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:24] <mon^rch> thoreauputic, its better to make mount points in /media for ubuntu
[12:24] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i know that thank you!
[12:24] <surabachi> can i have help with compiling?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> mon^rch: I'm aware of the convention
[12:25] <ladydoor> new2linx: ok, i've got to run. please check to see if the dir exists, and if not, create it with mkdir
[12:25] <thoreauputic> mon^rch: in pracice either works fine
[12:25] <thoreauputic> *practice
[12:25] <new2linx> mon^rch,  that's where I actaully have it, i just posted that cause that the example I followed from a forum and didn't feel like changing it again.
[12:25] <surabachi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[12:25] <new2linx> ladydoor, the dir exists
[12:25] <jimmy_neutron> someone gas to know the answer
[12:25] <surabachi> i need help with that error
[12:25] <Kojima-Kazuma> Im have trouble with easy ubuntu and no one is replying in the easy ubuntu rooom
[12:26] <Kojima-Kazuma> can any one help
[12:26] <surabachi> Kojima-Kazuma,  whast ur problem
[12:26] <thoreauputic> !easyubuntu
[12:26] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:26] <new2linx> thoreauputic, can you help me diagnos this?
[12:27] <surabachi> anyone want a challenging problem to try and help me wiht, no one has solved it yet, its just a big mystery
[12:27] <thoreauputic> new2linx: well, mount -o loop name.iso /mount/point  should work - you need sudo I suspect
[12:27] <LjL> !ask
[12:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:27] <Kojima-Kazuma> When i install easy ubuntu and try to run it nothing happens and when ever my comp. tries to load java the app. would shut down
[12:27] <new2linx> thoreauputic, after I type in sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 sp-tw07.iso /media/isoimage
[12:27] <new2linx> Password:
[12:27] <new2linx> mount: Not a directory
[12:27] <jimmy_neutron> i get the network access denied when i try to mnt samba share in win. help!
[12:27] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i am using sudo?
[12:27] <LjL> !tell Kojima-Kazuma about nothing
[12:27] <new2linx> thoreauputic, what's up with this?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> new2linx: umm - I take it you have a dir called /media/isoimage
[12:27] <Kojima-Kazuma> wtf
[12:27] <surabachi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[12:27] <new2linx> thoreauputic, yes
[12:28] <fscott> Hello
[12:28] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: does /media/isoimage actually exist?
[12:28] <asc> Which gstreamer plugin, if any, adds .m4a support?
[12:28] <new2linx> thoreauputic, maybe i'll try somthing else, can you inform me of a prgram that can extract an iso
[12:28] <new2linx> Shadowline, yes
[12:28] <asdfa> what is the command to start vmware player in ubuntu?
[12:28] <LjL> asdfa: strangely enough, "vmware-player" ;)
[12:28] <thoreauputic> new2linx: you don't extract an iso - it's an image
[12:28] <new2linx> Shadowline, come on now, i am not that dumb. i am a newbie but come on.
[12:28] <new2linx> tho
[12:29] <Kojima-Kazuma> so does anyone know whats wrong ...
[12:29] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: sudo mkdir /media/isoimage
[12:29] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: and try the other again
[12:29] <LjL> asdfa: oh sorry it's actually "vmplayer", my bad
[12:29] <thoreauputic> new2linx: but I think file-roller can handle iso s
[12:29] <new2linx> thoreauputic, exactly, am image of a bunch of stuff and I need to extract the contents to my xbox.
[12:29] <rem__> hey where can you see the system specifications ... ? /proc/ .. ?
[12:29] <surabachi> help with compiling anyone?
[12:29] <new2linx> Shadowline,
[12:29] <LjL> asdfa: anyway a tip, if you type "dpkg -L name-of-package", it will show all files that a package contains... you can usually find the name of the executable from there
[12:29] <new2linx> Shadowline, i already dd that
[12:29] <new2linx> Shadowline, dd=did
[12:29] <fscott> I'm messing around with software RAID and have some questions about it.  Does anyone feel like answering what are probably dumb questions?
[12:30] <asdfa> LjL: thx
[12:30] <Subhuman> fscott, !ask
[12:30] <Subhuman> !ask
[12:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:30] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i have been unsuccessful in burning it to a dvd as nero linux erros out as well as gnomebaker??? i am trying anything to get this game on my xbox?
[12:30] <surabachi> compiling help please?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> new2linx: just a guess - try running sudo modprobe loop first
[12:30] <rem__> hey where can you see the system specifications ... ? /proc/ .. ?
[12:31] <Zambezi> I have big problems with K3B. It doesn't erase my DVD+RW. Is there an option to K3B?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> new2linx: I assume the iso is actually OK - is the md5sum correct?
[12:31] <matt__> why is it some video sites say i need the newest version of flash installed and i just installed it
[12:31] <new2linx> thoreauputic, NOOP, tried it, nothing spit out so I am guessing it was successful but then whn I did the mount command again I getthe same eror?
[12:31] <surabachi> matt__, cause u need flash 9, and linux dosent have flash 9
[12:32] <matt__> ooooh, so how do i get flash 9
[12:32] <thoreauputic> rem__: try  lshw | less
[12:32] <rem__> ty
[12:32] <new2linx> thoreauputic, letsassume so!
[12:32] <new2linx> thoreauputic, oops, lets asume so.
[12:32] <surabachi> matt__, u cant really. But do u have wine?
[12:32] <scratchme> When you run Ubuntu, and you have an app say, FireFox, what's the best way to update it, if it was in the list of installable apps via System: Administration: Add Applications ?
[12:32] <rem__> /proc/cpuinfo is what i needed :)
[12:32] <peppo> hrm. a user should be in the "users" group right? using users-admin, and it's not showing the "regular user" as part of users. it was also not part of admin, so we had to add that username to /etc/sudoers manually
[12:32] <fscott> fair enough.  I've set up RAID with two identical IDE disks.  For now, they are master and slave on the same cable.  I know that's bad performance wise, but it works well enough for testing.  / is set up as RAID1, and swap is RAID0.  I can switch which drive is master and slave, and the system works fine.  But if I disconnect the slave, the system won't boot anymore.
[12:32] <surabachi> can i have help compiling?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> new2linx: well, your command looks OK so I'm running out of ideas
[12:32] <matt__> ya i have wine
[12:32] <FlaX> !boot
[12:32] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:32] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i'll try to mount an iso that I know is good than i'll let you know
[12:33] <thoreauputic> k
[12:33] <mon^rch> wine rocks...
[12:33] <surabachi> matt__,  search google for somethign called ie4linux
[12:33] <fscott> To make that a question, let me add the following.  "WTF?"
 I have big problems with K3B. It doesn't erase my DVD+RW. Is there an option to K3B? <-- did you fixate the disk?
[12:33] <Shadowpillar> matt__: wait until february
[12:33] <Shadowpillar> ;O
[12:33] <matt__> ok thanks
[12:33] <Zambezi> Shadowline, Fixate?
[12:33] <surabachi> Shadowpillar, is february when flash 9 comes out?
[12:33] <new2linx> thoreauputic, how can i go back one directory in th terminal? without having to type in the whole location again?
[12:33] <LjL> new2linx: "cd .."
[12:33] <LjL> !cli
[12:33] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:34] <mon^rch> cd ..
[12:34] <thoreauputic>  cd ..
[12:34] <Shadowpillar> matt__: or for those sites that need it right now, install the latest wine from the winehq repositories and download firefox for windows and install flash 9
[12:34] <Shadowpillar> surabachi: they're aiming for that time, might be sooner
[12:34] <surabachi> thoreauputic, can i have help with an error i get trying to run a program after i compile it?
[12:34] <new2linx> thoreauputic,  see I am a newbie. NO cd is just going t take me back to my home location. i don't want that
[12:34] <surabachi> Shadowpillar,  i cant wait!!
[12:34] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i only want to go back 1 folder
[12:34] <thoreauputic> new2linx: two dots
[12:34] <thoreauputic> new2linx:  cd ..
[12:34] <sorush20> can't i upload image to the paste bin anymore?
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: ...
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: cd is a command
[12:35] <gnomefreak> sorush20: no
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> stands for "change directory"
[12:35] <surabachi> gnomefreak,  can i have help with a compiling issue?
[12:35] <new2linx> thoreauputic, oh cd and then a space and then 2 dots, thanks, hang on, I am gonna try to mount an iso I know is good
[12:35] <scratchme> What's the best way to update the dependencies for the System: Administration: Add Applications in Ubuntu?
[12:35] <LjL> new2linx: "cd .." -- that's  c d dot dot
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> new2linx: and .. means the previous directory in unix terms
[12:35] <scratchme> (get the new stuff)
[12:35] <thedash> I believe I have figured out my problem, but I have no way to know how to fix it
[12:35] <matt__> ya it works on wine thanks guys
[12:35] <gnomefreak> surabachi: that will depends on the problem you are having
[12:35] <mon^rch> (space)
[12:35] <scratchme> For example, it shows that I'm upto date, but I got firefox 1.07 and FireFox 1.5x is the latest.
[12:36] <surabachi> gnomefreak, my problem is a bit long to explain so i wrote it at this link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[12:36] <LjL> !ff1.5
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff1.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <new2linx> thoreauputic, Interesting, that one won'
[12:36] <gnomefreak> !ff
[12:36] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:36] <LjL> !firefox
[12:36] <mon^rch> firefox bon echo is a lil better (methinks)
[12:36] <surabachi> gnomefreak,  no one has been able to solve my problem yet, its a huge mystery
[12:36] <thoreauputic> Anyone with a bit of bandwidth who wants to help the Ubuntu PPC community - please help to seed the Edgy beta torrent
[12:36] <new2linx> thoreauputic, 't mount either! it might be because they are xbox images and not normal iso9660's??
[12:36] <thedash> is there any way to check a RAID setup from the OS?
[12:37] <thoreauputic> new2linx: no idea, sorry
[12:37] <LjL> thoreauputic: okee. is someone behind a NAT useful?
[12:37] <sorush20> could someone recommend another paste bin with image support please.. and change to topic to tell everyone
[12:37] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i burn them using alcohol the sameway thoough???
[12:37] <thoreauputic> LjL: sure, if you forward your torrent ports
[12:37] <fscott> !raid
[12:37] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:37] <scratchme> LjL, thx.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> surabachi: there is not really a fix for it  gimmie needs to be re-worked its looking for files ubuntu no longer uses
[12:37] <LjL> thoreauputic: no can do, the NAT is on the ISP side
[12:37] <new2linx> thoreauputic, well can you help me burn an iso? or point me out to a program that spits out the contents of an iso into adirectory?
[12:37] <surabachi> gnomefreak,  thnask i wil ltel lthem
[12:38] <scratchme> Heh, compared to ##windows, this channel hops.
[12:38] <FlaX> !grub
[12:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:38] <mon^rch> (doesnt file-roller browse iso's)?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> new2linx: you can burn an ISO from nautilus by right-click on the file - but if it isn't an ISO, that won't really help much :)
[12:39] <thoreauputic> new2linx: what does the command "file nameofyourfile.iso " say ? ( no quotes, substitute your file name from the same dir)
[12:39] <new2linx> thoreauputic, it is an iso, it has .iso. i tried the nautilus thingy and it failed also. hang on i'll do what you asked
[12:40] <thoreauputic> mon^rch: I believe it does, in fact I mentioned that about 15 minutes ago ;-)
[12:40] <mon^rch> yepp...
[12:40] <new2linx> thoreauputic, ah ha, this is what it states, clr-totov.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data
[12:40] <new2linx> thoreauputic, awesome, so wtf?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> new2linx: looks OK from here - hang on a tic
[12:41] <WhiteDeth> Can someone tell me what's going on here? - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25028/
[12:41] <fscott> Has anyone else tried using software RAID with IDE drives?
[12:41] <new2linx> thoreauputic, k
[12:41] <thoreauputic> new2linx: yes, that seems right for an ISO :)
[12:42] <mon^rch> amazing the ammount of users for such an early distro, eh???
[12:42] <thoreauputic> new2linx: what does   lsmod | grep loop  say ?
[12:42] <new2linx> thoreauputic, hang on, i'll tell u in a sec
[12:43] <thoreauputic> mon^rch: either I'm burned out, or the average IQ in #ubuntu is trending downwards ;-)
[12:43] <mon^rch> now, be nice...
[12:43] <thoreauputic> ;-) joking :)
[12:43] <mon^rch> :-D
[12:43] <WhiteDeth> how is ubuntu and early distro?
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> *an
[12:44] <thoreauputic> WhiteDeth: less than 2 years old
[12:44] <mon^rch> because it's relatively young in comparison...
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> young in comparison doesnt mean people wont bite :)
[12:44] <mon^rch> hey... BITE away... ubuntu rocks
[12:44] <new2linx> thoreauputic, loop                   18536  0
[12:44] <WhiteDeth> and it has other perks too remember? Only reason I chose Ubuntu over any of the other builds is because of how well it goes with XGL :)
[12:45] <thoreauputic> new2linx: OK just making sure the module was loaded - so that isn't it either
[12:45] <scratchme> !aptitude
[12:45] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:46] <scratchme> How do you "get" the aptitude program?
[12:46] <scratchme> apt-get install aptitude
[12:46] <scratchme> ?
[12:47] <mon^rch> dont forget to sudo...
[12:47] <new2linx> thoreauputic, ?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> scratchme: it's already there :)
[12:47] <scratchme> Wasn't for me.
[12:47] <mon^rch> :0
[12:47] <thoreauputic> yes, it is
[12:47] <Phoul>  Im buying a new moniter, 17 or 19" tonight, How would i go about setting it up? ((hard?))
[12:47] <thoreauputic> scratchme: it's installed by default
[12:47] <mon^rch> plug it in
[12:48] <Phoul> mon^rch, what about the sync and mode lines and such
[12:48] <scratchme> thoreauputic, that's great, but it wasn't on this install.
[12:48] <tat> hmm.. anyone good with pam_mount? i use it to mount some smb-shares when i log in. some times my network is not plugged in when i do that (using a laptop).. is it possible to mount the shares without a pass afterwards?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> scratchme: well, you are not running ubuntu then
[12:48] <mon^rch> theyre built into the monitor
[12:49] <scratchme> thoreauputic, I guess that's not ubuntu it says as the OS starts.
[12:49] <mon^rch> trust me itll just work...
[12:49] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i am trying to burn a data cd to see if my burner is working?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> scratchme: I won't argue with you - see what  apt-cache depends ubuntu-standard and apt-cache rdepends aptitude say
[12:50] <new2linx> thoreauputic, how can i find other channels to go to for more specific help? I amnew to irc'ing?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> scratchme: sorry, apt-cache depends ubuntu-minimal
[12:51] <scratchme> thoreauputic, a whole big list of apps.
[12:51] <mon^rch> (holy evil /nick's batman)
[12:51] <thoreauputic> apt-cache depends ubuntu-minimal | grep aptitude
[12:51] <new2linx> thoreauputic, hello?
[12:51] <scratchme> Well, the first one ubuntu-stanndard  doesn't have it.
[12:52] <scratchme> The  minimal does.
[12:52] <thoreauputic> new2linx: *cough* I'm doing several things here - be patient please
[12:52] <scratchme> Anyway, I got it now.
[12:52] <scratchme> Via apt-get.
[12:52] <thoreauputic> scratchme: that's why I corrected myself
[12:53] <mon^rch> lol poof
[12:53] <thoreauputic> scratchme: you don't get an ubuntu install without ubuntu-minimal - thus aptitude is there from the start - trust me
[12:53] <new2linx> thoreauputic, i was trying to be patient. asked a q and then waited awhile, then double checked to see if you were gonna answer me. sorry
[12:54] <thoreauputic> new2linx: just address your questions to the channel - I'm not always here and in any case I've run out of ideas to be frank
[12:55] <scratchme> thoreauputic, well, which  aptitude retured nothing.
[12:55] <new2linx> thoreauputic, ok, i am asking how do i find another channel, i am new to irc'ing?
[12:55] <scratchme> Also, when I tried to run the firefox  1.5.0 upgrade/install  script from ubotu, it said it was a misssing command.
[12:55] <thoreauputic> scratchme: *sigh* I've told you the truth - you must have doen something creative to manage not to have aptitude
[12:55] <Stevo> is there any way in the cli to see if there's errors due to use of Automatix?
[12:55] <mon^rch> new2linx, what prog. u using?
[12:56] <THX-1138> Hi - How do you restart a finished torrent ( Wanted to give back some bandwidth to Ubuntu.)
[12:56] <scratchme> thoreauputic, go to VMWare download Ubuntu Web Browsing appliance, and see for yourself.
[12:56] <scratchme> It's a pre-install of ubuntu.
[12:56] <new2linx> mon^rch, none yet, i am having a difficult time working with  xbox iso's in linux
[12:56] <scratchme> You'll have to download about 1GB to prove me wrong though.
[12:56] <thoreauputic> scratchme: see what for myself? That's a third-party blob - not an Ubuntu install
[12:56] <new2linx> i either want to burn it to a dvd or extract it and ftp into my xbox
[12:57] <new2linx> mon^rch, i either want to burn it to a dvd or extract it and ftp into my xbox
[12:57] <scratchme> Well, I didn't say *I* installed it, I just asked  how to add aptitude.
[12:57] <scratchme> Thanks though.
[12:57] <thoreauputic> scratchme: heheh - OK well you've corrected the mistake so that's cool :)
[12:58] <mon^rch> new2linx, I tried doing xbox for my bro, without much success. sorry
[12:58] <THX-1138> Hi thoreauputic - How do i make the ubuntu tracker aware of the torrent file i have already downloaded?
[12:58] <stu_> whats the channel for beryl or whatever?
[12:58] <new2linx> mon^rch, you tried chipping one?
[12:59] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: just click it - should open in gnome-btdownload or watever it is called
[12:59] <thoreauputic> *whatever
[12:59] <new2linx> mon^rch, or you tried working with downloaded iso's. i mean working with an iso I backed up from the game I OWN!
[12:59] <mon^rch> nah, just burning iso's and copyright protection... they just plain ol' didnt work
[12:59] <fredrich> anyone know if there's a mediatomb deb file abounds in the wild somewhere?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> stu_: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:59] <fredrich> i have a hard time getting it workin
[12:59] <THX-1138> "gnome-btdownload' - Okay i can google the rest. - Thank You.
[01:00] <new2linx> mon^rch, hello?
[01:00] <mon^rch> see above
[01:00] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: you don't need to - just click the torrent file
[01:00] <godtvisken> My MBR is on my windows HDD, but I want to take that HDD out and move it into a different computer. How can I put my MBR on my linux drive?
[01:01] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: by default it will open in the bittorrent client
[01:01] <new2linx> mon^rch, oh, thanks anyway
[01:01] <mon^rch> sorry
[01:02] <GameOver69> can anyone help me with the following error? http://pastebin.com/796420
[01:02] <peppo> what's the package manager called in ubuntu? a friend wants to know. where in menus can it be found?
[01:02] <new2linx> mon^rch, i didn't see your answer cause it wasn't in red. i am new to irc. how do i go to a dirrent channel
[01:02] <peppo> er, in version 6.
[01:02] <mon^rch> new2linx, type /join #linux
[01:03] <mon^rch> or something else
[01:03] <mon^rch> make sure you use #
[01:03] <Shish> peppo: synaptic is the standard one, but there are several (although they all use the apt back end)
[01:03] <peppo> must it be installed manually? he can't find it
[01:03] <peppo> he said it was under Administration in ubuntu 5
[01:03] <Shish> it's installed by default -- without it, you wouldn't be able to install anything else :P
[01:04] <new2linx> mon^rch, that didn't work
[01:04] <peppo> a GUI package manager?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> System- ADmin- Synaptic Package Manager
[01:04] <peppo> thanks
[01:04] <mon^rch> new2linx, then you didnt type it correctly
[01:04] <godtvisken> My MBR is on my windows HDD, but I want to take that HDD out and move it into a different computer. How can I put my MBR on my linux drive?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> peppo: but easier is add/remove programs in the main menu
[01:04] <new2linx> mon^rch, /join #linux
[01:05] <mon^rch> what kinda weird client are you using then???
[01:05] <Phant> Linux n00b here. I just installed ubuntu, and was looking for software that would play a shoutcast stream.
[01:05] <new2linx> mon^rch, tried again, same thing. how can i view a list of channels available on freenode?
[01:05] <MakuraRyu> I would like to make a ubuntu file server that is windows compatible. I just finished installing the server version of ubuntu what else should I do, all I get is the command line
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Phant: sudo aptitude install streamtuner xmms streamripper
[01:05] <MakuraRyu> thanks in advance
[01:05] <shwag> trying to install xen.  the wiki says  sh install.sh   should say "OK"  but it doesnt.  It says not a valid dis dir, source-only release. the guide doesnt tell me what to do next.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenOnUbuntuBinaryInstall
[01:06] <thoreauputic> MakuraRyu: sudo aptitude install samba
[01:06] <ladydoor> MakuraRyu: ummm, a server doesn't come with a gui--it's more secure, since you need to know what you're doing at least a little to screw it up.
[01:06] <thoreauputic> !samba > MakuraRyu
[01:06] <Phant> Thanks.
[01:07] <shwag> oh, its because i downloaded the source and not the binary
[01:07] <starleaf> Umm help please... No acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:07] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[01:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:07] <ladydoor> starleaf: install build-essential
[01:08] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[01:08] <starleaf> Thanks! :)
[01:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:08] <ladydoor> starleaf: np :-)
[01:08] <mon^rch> new2linx, sorry, gtg supper calls (google is your friend)
[01:08] <new2linx> monwow, thanx
[01:08] <peppo> is synaptic installed by default?
[01:09] <LjL> yes
[01:09] <LjL> !synaptic
[01:09] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:09] <fatbrain> !msfonts
[01:09] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:09] <der0b> hey folks, is there some place, some rc file that I can set up some default options for bittorent?
[01:09] <MakuraRyu> @thoreauputic thanks
[01:09] <thoreauputic> MakuraRyu: np :)
[01:10] <Phant> Thoreauptic, works great. thanks again.
[01:10] <thoreauputic> Phant: nice isn't it ? :-)
[01:10] <harisund> Hello! Is there any web based software that allows me to administrate *all* aspects of my machine? (And one that is supported in Ubuntu?)
[01:10] <thedash> I think Ubuntu hates me
[01:10] <Phant> Yes it is.
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> J need help: I get error 8 (Connect script failed) with wvdial.
[01:10] <bouanan> hi
[01:10] <likewhoa54> did lilo project get abandoned?
[01:10] <LjL> harisund: i think the closest to that would be webmin...
[01:10] <harisund> !webmin
[01:10] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[01:10] <Phant> Next thig to figure out is how to broadcast to the shoutcast server from it.
[01:10] <LjL> hm
[01:10] <thoreauputic> Phant: if you click the record button, it rips the stream for you  as well
[01:11] <Phant> sweet!
[01:11] <peppo> he has synaptic
[01:11] <peppo> but no entry in the menus
[01:11] <peppo> weird
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Phant: if you want to stream music, look at gnump3d
[01:11] <superkirbyartist> Excuse me?!
[01:11] <Phant> I'll look into that. thanks alot.
[01:12] <thoreauputic> !gnump3d
[01:12] <ubotu> gnump3d: A streaming server for MP3 and OGG files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.8-2 (dapper), package size 634 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[01:12] <thedash> I think my Ubuntu is sick
[01:12] <menace> does someone use a wintv pv 250 with ubuntu?
[01:12] <thedash> it times out trying to display a folder on my OS drive, and nautilus closes :X
[01:12] <Rasta> re
[01:12] <jimmy_neutron> how do i remove this: Linux Linux 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux      from the ssh welcome msg when looging in via ssh?
[01:12] <superkirbyartist> Please help me.  I get error 8 with wvdial.
[01:13] <thoreauputic> jimmy_neutron: probably edit /etc/issue.net ( not certain but that is likely)
[01:13] <Rasta> i have a fresh install of Hoary, it would be better update that installation or instal Dapper drake from scratch?
[01:13] <hondje> jimmy_neutron: edit /etc/motd
[01:13] <delaney> Curious if anyone knows of a way to change the firefox icon that appears in the taskbar.. that ugly blue globe drives me BONKERS
[01:14] <thoreauputic> jimmy_neutron: hmm maybe not - that only has the Ubuntu version in it
[01:14] <thoreauputic> hondje: ah, yes motd! thanks
[01:14] <matthew_w> Is there a way to network my Xbox 360 to my Linux box so I can use media center?
[01:14] <SEN-5421> hi... I am looking for the default linux kernel .config file that comes with Ubuntu 6.06 dapper. Where can I get a copy?
[01:14] <hondje> thoreauputic: No problem ... but now I'm wondering if PrintMotd no is default or if I did that myself :-/
[01:14] <jimmy_neutron> thx. just found it
[01:15] <thoreauputic> hondje: I think you did it yourself - that is definitely what I see when I ssh into an Ubuntu box
[01:15] <thoreauputic> :0
[01:15] <hondje> okay :)
[01:15] <thoreauputic> oops . :-)
[01:15] <jiSh> matthew_w: you can't use media center with anything other than windows media center 2k5
[01:15] <jiSh> matthew_w: there are a few programs in the works to enable music streaming though
[01:16] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: in /boot
[01:16] <jiSh> matthew_w: check at www.xbox-scene.com
[01:16] <matthew_w> Cool, thanks.
[01:16] <matthew_w> That's all I wanted to do was music stream, anyway.
[01:16] <matthew_w> Cheers.
[01:16] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, yes, I do not have Ubuntu installed at the moment. I need a copy of this .config file now though.
[01:16] <jiSh> np
[01:16] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, know of a copy online? or can you post it to pastebin.ca ?
[01:17] <ocra> there is a boot manager in ubuntu?
[01:17] <xopher> grub?
[01:17] <moonlite> ocra: well yes, grub i think
[01:17] <ocra> i need to manage boot and re make the lilo, windows repair caused this...
[01:17] <xopher> or what do you mean by boot manager?
[01:17] <hot_wheelz> Hi guys how's it going?
[01:17] <moonlite> even windows has a boot manager you know (that it happily installs in MBR without asking on installation)
[01:17] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: it depends what you mean - the one on the CD or the security updated ones ? 386 arch?
[01:17] <jack_> hello
[01:18] <MrRio> hot_wheelz, hey there :)
[01:18] <sidman> hello!
[01:18] <jack_> chg
[01:18] <matthew_w> jiSh: Where is it on this page?
[01:18] <xopher> ocra, just reinstall it to the hdd's MBR
[01:18] <sidman> I got a question?
[01:18] <MrRio> sidman: sure, ask away
[01:18] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, x86 linux kernel .config that comes with Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper.
[01:18] <hunkyspunky> hello
[01:18] <jack_> i am jack
[01:18] <hunkyspunky> i got a little problem,
[01:18] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: it has changed since the 6.06.1 release
[01:18] <ocra> whats the speedy and true way for this? i dont wanna go for reinstall...
[01:18] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, the one that you get installed on your system by default.
[01:18] <sidman> how good is ubuntu at finding devices on my computer?
[01:19] <hunkyspunky> got the latest unbuntu live cd from shipit
[01:19] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, ANYONE works.
[01:19] <jack_> i like cheese
[01:19] <SEN-5421> :-(
[01:19] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: I no longer have that one
[01:19] <Bennedetto> anyone here have any suggestions for some hard drive based mp3 players that are supported in ubuntu?
[01:19] <wanted> hi, how i read with totem the file in the samba directory(of other pc)?
[01:19] <Bennedetto> i dont like using proprietary software to transfer music
[01:19] <hot_wheelz> guys i have a sugestion on how to imporove 6.10 just a bit
[01:19] <redcard> Wow.
[01:19] <MrRio> sidman: pretty good, what hardware have you got?
[01:19] <likewhoa54> hot_wheelz: REALLY? YOU HAVE an IDEA?
[01:19] <godtvisken> How can I move my MBR and grub stuff from one HDD (which I want to take out) to another?
[01:19] <hunkyspunky> when i run live cd i just get a screen with green lines through.. but the previous version of ubuntu work...
[01:19] <hunkyspunky> i got the nvidia 6800 256mn video card
[01:19] <likewhoa54> hot_wheelz: amazing....I'm glad you have opinions....feel free to email dev team at support@microsoft.com and we'll get right on it
[01:19] <redcard> Umm.. This Dapper -> Edgy upgrade held back a ton of packages.  Now X doesn't start at all.. and I noticed Xserver-core is one of the packages held back.
[01:19] <jerrcs> hi. i have a problem: "passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info."
[01:20] <Lunar_Lamp> Bennedetto - i have a Cowon iAudio X5 - it is a little old now but still VERY good, and support is being made in RockBox (a linux OS for mp3 players)
[01:20] <der0b> hey folks, is there some place, some rc file that I can set up some default options for bittorent?  things like min & max port and upload rate?
[01:20] <redcard> So how do I get it to remove all holdbacks?
[01:20] <Lunar_Lamp> redcard - did you "dist-upgrade" too?
[01:20] <redcard> Lunar_Lamp: Yes.
[01:20] <hondje> likewhoa54: Is there a reason you're flaming someone without hearing what they have to say, or are you so unbelievably arrogant that you don't think any improvements are worthy of hearing?
[01:20] <MrRio> hey, no need to be so sarcastic to hot_wheelz
[01:20] <sidman> well, I got a p4, cd rom dvd/cd rw and networkcard and a hard drive ide
[01:20] <redcard> Lunar_Lamp: I have Nvidia drivers in play, and I recompiled those as well.
[01:20] <MrRio> hot_wheelz, what's your idea?
[01:20] <Bennedetto> Lunar_Lamp: i was looking at that one, but i didn't seem to use drag and drop functionality
[01:20] <sidman> and nvidia
[01:20] <hunkyspunky> can anyone help me in a pm ?
[01:20] <Lunar_Lamp> drag and drop? i use it all the time
[01:21] <Lunar_Lamp> it's a usb hard drive that can play music in effect
[01:21] <redcard> Lunar_Lamp:  X is linked to /bin/true.
[01:21] <SEN-5421> can someone please paste a copy of their linux kernel .config file to a website so that I can check some IDE / SCSI module settings?
[01:21] <Bennedetto> Lunar_Lamp: in the dreaded windows too?
[01:21] <likewhoa54> hondje: the arrogant part is right
[01:21] <redcard> I mean, literally, it held back all of X :)
[01:21] <likewhoa54> hondje: you got me there
[01:21] <Lunar_Lamp> Bennedetto - yes
[01:21] <Bennedetto> alright, im sold
[01:21] <SEN-5421> Ubuntu 6.06 that is
[01:21] <Lunar_Lamp> just copy folders of files over into the MUSIC folder on the player and theyll be picked up and play
[01:21] <sidman> so if I install it now will I be able to connect to the intenet when I get up and runing?
[01:21] <hunkyspunky> can anyone please help me ?
[01:21] <redcard> What I'm wanting to do is undo all the holds.  Is there a way in aptitude to see all the holds and clear them out?
[01:22] <hondje> hot_wheelz: what's your idea?
[01:22] <MrRio> hunkyspunky, just pm'd you
[01:22] <hunkyspunky> ok sorry did see
[01:22] <hot_wheelz> yes likewhoa54 as u know u do andate from the patches they are single threaded wouldn't it cool if they were multi threaded that means if you did an update it would be done quick what do u guys think?
[01:22] <redcard> Anyone?  I'm just wanting to remove all the hold backs..
[01:23] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25109/  <-- 2.6.27 for 386 config file
[01:23] <jerrcs> hi. I'm having a passwd problem: http://pastebin.ca/185445
[01:23] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, thx alot!
[01:23] <sidman> can I connect to the network after I install ubuntu
[01:24] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: that's from /boot/config-2.6.15-27-386
[01:24] <hunkyspunky> MrRio, please check ur pm when u get a chance
[01:24] <hondje> hot_wheelz: would be nice, I hear there's a decent reason they haven't done that yet but I cant' tell you waht it is offhand
[01:24] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: hope it pasted OK - I have torrents running and it was kind of slow....
[01:24] <Bennedetto> Lunar_Lamp: thanks, now ive just got to find one for cheap :P
[01:24] <MrRio> hunkyspunky, i can't see one
[01:24] <kitche> jerrcs did you install pam?
[01:24] <jerrcs> kitche: why?
[01:24] <Lunar_Lamp> Bennedetto  hehe, wel, you can#t have mine :-p
[01:24] <SEN-5421> thoreauputic, looks fine, thx
[01:24] <jerrcs> oh and whats odd is, i can passwd as root..
[01:25] <thoreauputic> SEN-5421: yw :)
[01:25] <kitche> jerrcs: it just seems like a pam issue with the user permissions
[01:25] <jpiccolo_>  anyone know why ftp transfers across a network would go really slow?
[01:25] <jerrcs> kitche: know how to fix it? :(
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> you guys think ubuntu would be better then widnows ?
[01:26] <lupine_85> depends
[01:26] <lupine_85> windows is better for playing the latest games
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> i'm running vista now.. seems its ok.. but thinking about permanetkly switching to ubuntu
[01:26] <Sidman_feelsigno> can I CONNECT TO THE INTERNET AFTER I INSTALL ubunTu
[01:26] <lupine_85> linux is bettr for most everything
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> but don't know what i get for software
[01:26] <redcard> Ugh.
[01:26] <lupine_85> ....else
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> ok
[01:26] <thoreauputic> Sidman_feelsigno: yes, and don't yell, thanks
[01:26] <kitche> jerrcs oh wait you have to do sudo passwd unless you did it as root
[01:26] <hunkyspunky> should i chose mac or linux ?
[01:26] <MrRio> Sidman_feelsigno: yes you can
[01:26] <MrRio> hunkyspunky, linux
[01:26] <lupine_85> hunkyspunky: packages.ubuntu.com (IIRC)
[01:27] <wanted> hi, how i read with totem the file in the samba directory(of other pc)?
[01:27] <thoreauputic> hunkyspunky: strange question to ask in a linux channel
[01:27] <Sidman_feelsigno> I hope it recongizes all my drives?
[01:27] <lupine_85> it will tell you all the packages available to you in a single command
[01:27] <godtvisken> which hdd does (hd1,0) mean in grub?
[01:27] <hunkyspunky> sorry
[01:27] <hunkyspunky> just really curious
[01:27] <lupine_85> godtvisken: hdb1
[01:27] <hunkyspunky> and like for games,  wil like need for speed run.. and will my nvidia video card run ?
[01:27] <godtvisken> lupine_85: thanks
[01:27] <lupine_85> Mac OS X is based on *nix anyway, so tehre are some similarities
[01:27] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[01:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:28] <hunkyspunky> ok thanks
[01:28] <lupine_85> as for games... some Windows games will run under Wine/Cedega
[01:28] <jerrcs> kitche: ummm. nobody on my box can change passwords.. thats the problem
[01:28] <redcard> Darn.  Seriously, does anyone have a way to keep files from being "held back" by apt-get?
[01:28] <hot_wheelz> while  i'm here i do have one question for you guys is it posible todo a net install with ubuntu?
[01:28] <lupine_85> 3D graphics are supported on nvidia cards
[01:28] <lupine_85> redcard: dist-upgrade ?
[01:28] <kitche> jerrcs not even root?
[01:28] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, specify the package in install
[01:28] <jerrcs> kitche: root can, nobody else can.
[01:29] <thoreauputic> !netinstall
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:29] <redcard> lupine_85: Nope.
[01:29] <redcard> lupine_85: I followed EdgyUpdate to get here.
[01:29] <kitche> jerrcs well you have to sudo passwd <user> to change that user password
[01:29] <jerrcs> kitche: well how come the user cant change his/her password his/her-self?
[01:29] <jerrcs> thats the problem
[01:29] <lupine_85> some python ones have been held back
[01:29] <lupine_85> that's because edgy default is python 2.5 IIRC
[01:30] <redcard> lupine_85: Yes, but this is X.
[01:30] <redcard> I mean, all of X is held back.
[01:30] <lupine_85> cor
[01:30] <lupine_85> that's not right
[01:30] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: they should be able to by just typing passwd
[01:30] <lupine_85> is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[01:30] <jerrcs> kitche: im not stupid here. i know i cant change other passwords without being root
[01:30] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:30] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:30] <jerrcs> thoreauputic: they get: http://pastebin.ca/185445
[01:30] <redcard> Nope.
[01:30] <redcard> But now it will be ;)
[01:30] <lupine_85> that should fix it
[01:30] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: looking
[01:30] <redcard> lupine_85: Apparently sometimes if you remove a package.. it pulls ubuntu-desktop.
[01:30] <lupine_85> of course, if you've got kubuntu, then kubuntu-deskop
[01:31] <lupine_85> yes
[01:31] <hot_wheelz> Thanks
[01:31] <redcard> Well, if you don't have that, it breaks the Dapper -> Edgy upgrade.
[01:31] <lupine_85> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on what canonical consider to be essential
[01:31] <kitche> jerrcs: it's how ubuntu set's up permissions
[01:31] <lupine_85> they assume you have it during the upgrade procedure - it makes life easier for them
[01:31] <jerrcs> kitche: no its not. its a problem on my system.
[01:31] <redcard> lupine_85: Yes.  But not having it kills the upgrade in beta.
[01:31] <lupine_85> less transitional packages to worry about, etc
[01:31] <jerrcs> kitche: a NORMAL user cannot change his or her own password
[01:31] <squee> I'm running the gameserver / webserver for a lan party.  what do I have to do to make it so when they go to uatlan.com, it takes them to my webserver?  I know it's something with bind...
[01:31] <jerrcs> thats the problem
[01:31] <PFA> can someone help me resize my partitions?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: haven't seen that one
[01:32] <jerrcs> you cannot tell me thats how ubuntu will be, nobody can change their passwords anymore
[01:32] <bruenig> PFA, gparted
[01:32] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:32] <TrevorT> really should be taken out of the package tree ...
[01:32] <lupine_85> jerrcs: wrong
[01:32] <redcard> lupine_85: I'll see if this works, then I'll hang out on launchpad and make certain this gets communicated.
[01:32] <PFA> bruenig: i tried it, it doesnt work :/
[01:32] <lupine_85> I just tried it
[01:32] <TrevorT> or someone should put a hold on working on edgy until you have a *working* stable release of dapper...
[01:32] <jerrcs> lupine_85: thats the problem im having.
[01:32] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: looks like something is wrong with pam perhaops - just guessing though
[01:32] <jerrcs> thoreauputic: well i know nothing of pam.. so bah ;(
[01:32] <lupine_85> presumably something has wrong permissions then
[01:32] <jerrcs> lupine_85: well, like what? i can check
[01:32] <bruenig> PFA, make sure you aren't resizing it to small
[01:33] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: unfortunately neither do I - i suggest you post to the ubuntu-users mailing list
[01:33] <TrevorT> just in case nobody heard me the past 5 times
[01:33] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:33] <PFA> bruenig: nope, it has 11GB currently w 7GB used and i want to put it to 9GB
[01:33] <TrevorT> could someone tell me why the xorg-driver-fglrx package is enabled for dapper-amd64 and is completely useless?
[01:33] <squee> trevort: it works for some cards I believe ( not mine..)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> jerrcs: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[01:33] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: stop repeating
[01:33] <TrevorT> that's absurd, what's the point?
[01:34] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: if someone knows they will help
[01:34] <TrevorT> thoreauputic: stop the scrolling
[01:34] <lupine_85> jerrcs: start at the top and work your way down
[01:34] <bruenig> TrevorT, we are not developers
[01:34] <lupine_85> permissions of /usr/bin/passwd ?
[01:34] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: attitude
[01:34] <bruenig> nor do we maintain the repos
[01:34] <lupine_85> should be -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root      27840 2006-07-11 16:11 passwd
[01:34] <bruenig> !patience
[01:34] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:34] <TrevorT> then what are you? why do you exist??
[01:34] <squee> thoreauputic trevort: Its known that it doesn't work for anything higher than I think 9800.  I have an x700 and it always crashes on the default install
[01:34] <LjL> TrevorT: to give voluntary support?
 The people in this channel are volunteers
[01:34] <kitche> jerrcs did I say it was a pam issue before? but usually if pam is messed up it will be hard to get it working like it should be
[01:34] <TrevorT> thoreauputic: you have a misinterpretation of attitude problem :)
[01:34] <thoreauputic> oops
[01:35] <jerrcs> lupine_85: how am i supposed to know what is correct though?
[01:35] <TrevorT> but towards what end? you're supporting something that isn't even stable.. and hasn't been for some time now
[01:35] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: well OK - just take it easy
[01:35] <thissuckshardly> yo
[01:35] <lupine_85> I have a working one here
[01:35] <bruenig> if you wanted to ask, how do I revert what happened when I was retarded and installed a useless package, then perhaps we could have done that. But as to why those in power do what they do, we cannot help there.
[01:35] <lupine_85> so I can point out any possible errors to you
[01:35] <TrevorT> thoreauputic: you seem to have my disposition confused with someone who is mad..
[01:35] <LjL> TrevorT: are you just being a troll? if so, just go away...
[01:35] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: you are starting to sound trollish
[01:35] <TrevorT> I'm just irritated at the situation :)
[01:35] <jerrcs> lupine_85: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27840 2006-07-11 11:11 /usr/bin/passwd
[01:36] <lupine_85> there's your problem
[01:36] <TrevorT> thoreauputic: you're very presumptious
[01:36] <lupine_85> it should be -rwsr-xr-x
[01:36] <thoreauputic> sorry but that's enough
[01:36] <heaths> lol
[01:36] <jerrcs> lupine_85: oh. shoot... well, how do I change?
[01:36] <lupine_85> now, I have no idea what that s stands for. suid?
[01:36] <LjL> TrevorT, we're supporting ubuntu because we like it, wether it's stable or not, and would like people to use it and be happy with it. on the other hand, nobody's *forcing* us to help anybody, nor is anybody *paying* us. if we know, and we're looking, and feel like, we answer, otherwise we don't.
[01:36] <thoreauputic> TrevorT: I'll remove it in a few minutes
[01:36] <heaths> i was to: wtb oper
[01:36] <LjL> TrevorT: if you don't like that, well, buy paid support! that's what those companies exist for...
[01:37] <Homer> hello
[01:37] <squee> does anyone in here know how to use bind?
[01:37] <lupine_85>  can anyone else enlighten me and jerrcs ?
[01:37] <jerrcs> squee: i do
[01:37] <Homer> what is a scandisk like app for ubuntu?
[01:37] <lupine_85> fsck
[01:37] <jerrcs> fsck, homer.
[01:37] <Homer> gui
[01:37] <thissuckshardly> yo yo
[01:37] <picochu> hey guys is SLI disabled with AIGLX?
[01:37] <lupine_85> ...
[01:37] <jerrcs> gnome-terminal then fsck
[01:37] <jerrcs> :>
[01:37] <picochu> this is what i get
[01:37] <squee> jerrcs: I'm trying to set up a dns for a lan party, what do I have to do?  You dont have to get specific I just need a push in the right direction
[01:37] <picochu> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SLI" "auto"
[01:37] <picochu> (**) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI auto-select rendering option.
[01:37] <picochu> (WW) NVIDIA(0): DamageEvents are not currently compatible with SLI.  Disabling
[01:37] <picochu> (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI enabled.
[01:37] <irielion> hey does anyone know how to monitor the ports that are in use by the system?
[01:38] <lupine_85> jerrcs: I'm going to assume it's suid, but that could be wrong
[01:38] <squee> jerrcs: info bind & man bind dont give any real info to me
[01:38] <tester> thissuckshardly: sup nigga
[01:38] <picochu> irielion:  try netstat -nap
[01:38] <lupine_85> either way, you could try (as root) chmod rwsrxrx file
[01:38] <kitche> lupine_85: the s means sticky I believe in permissions
[01:38] <bruenig> !language > tester
[01:38] <thissuckshardly> tester yo, i`m going to kick some ass , wanna come ?
[01:38] <ziro01> hi
[01:38] <LjL> !ops
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[01:38] <Homer> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[01:38] <Homer> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[01:38] <lupine_85> kitche: any idea how to set it using chmod?  :)
[01:38] <lupine_85> Homer: yep
[01:38] <jiSh> duh
[01:38] <Homer> uh
[01:39] <LjL> ops: thissuckshardly, tester
[01:39] <jiSh> unmount it.
[01:39] <thoreauputic> LjL: ?
[01:39] <jerrcs> squee: i see. well, http://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/ maybe?
[01:39] <lupine_85> it's going to be / ...
[01:39] <jiSh> umount /dev/whatever
[01:39] <Homer> if I unmount it
[01:39] <thissuckshardly> wtf means Ops ?
[01:39] <LjL> thoreauputic: exchange between tester and thissuckshardly
[01:39] <irielion> cuz lighttpd seems only to work locally
[01:39] <Homer> can I still be on IRC
[01:39] <irielion> and nobody is blocking my ports
[01:39] <Homer> and have an unmounted HDD?
[01:39] <mipstien> im having a problem and i can't seem to get help on the forums :(. . . e2fsck runs on bootup and finds errors and cannot continue, i use the live cd and run it and it finds and fixes errors every single time i restart and go back into live cd. the problem isnt' goin away
[01:39] <jiSh> Homer: if you boot from a livecd
[01:39] <lupine_85> Homer: if it needs checking, it'll do it on startup
[01:39] <heaths> squee: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3956/ pretty decent with some walk throughs
[01:39] <lupine_85> this isn't Windows
[01:39] <sopido> hi is there a howto for (dist-)upgrading dapper to edgy beta? like common pitfalls?
[01:40] <btdown> I'd like to change one of my runlevels to boot into text mode. I unlinked gdm and usplash..anything else I need to do?
[01:40] <kothz> Hrm.  Dapper + 802.11b BCM4304 wireless card.  Do I have a hope without the (sacrilege of using) ndiswrapper/windows driver combos?
[01:40] <lupine_85> (or Tiw, the sky god ;) )
[01:40] <squee> heaths & jerrcs:  Thanks, i'll look into those both
[01:40] <Amaranth> sopido: Pain, much pain.
[01:40] <lupine_85> !upgrade
[01:40] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:40] <kitche> lupine_85: I do but can't really look it up since I m in class right now
[01:40] <Homer> lupine_85: my bios said SERVE HARD DISK DAMAGE! BACKUP AND REPLACE HARD DRIVE! PRESS F1 TO CONTINUE.
[01:40] <sopido> Amaranth, i can stand pain :)
[01:40] <lupine_85> kothz: there is a native driver for that
[01:40] <LjL> !caps
[01:40] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:40] <Homer> it said it in caps
[01:40] <Homer> heh
[01:40] <lupine_85> you need firmware for your card
[01:40] <lupine_85> !bcm43xx
[01:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:40] <LjL> Homer: ;-)
[01:41] <Amaranth> Homer: Time to get a new HD.
[01:41] <Homer> so
[01:41] <kothz> thanks wulfy. :)
[01:41] <thissuckshardly> thoreauputic: i`m gonna kick your ass boy ! dont do this again
[01:41] <Homer> no
[01:41] <LjL> Homer: i dunno, but that sounds like SMART talking
[01:41] <Homer> but  I think it may be wrong
[01:41] <sopido> hmm the wiki is utterly slow atm :(
[01:41] <Homer> yeah
[01:41] <Amaranth> Homer: You have to run fsck from a LiveCD
[01:41] <Homer> LjL: it's S.M.A.R.T
[01:41] <Homer> what is smart do
[01:41] <LjL> Homer: do you have SMART enabled on your BIOS? if so, and it's actually a SMART warning, well, it's extremely serious
[01:41] <kitche> lupine_85 should be chmod -s though to get rid of the sticky
[01:41] <lupine_85> go there and find the bcm43xx driver. there's also a ubuntuforums topic
[01:41] <ziro01> no
[01:41] <Amaranth> SMART asks the HD if it's failing
[01:41] <jerrcs> lupine_85:times like these i wish i could just chmod -rwsr-xr-x it
[01:41] <lupine_85> but we want the sticky...
[01:41] <Homer> well
[01:41] <LjL> Homer: yeah, SMART, S.M.A.R.T., whatever... anyway, it checks wether your HD is failing
[01:41] <Homer> how come my HDD seems to work
[01:42] <lupine_85> if smart says the hard drive is dying, it's on the way out
[01:42] <LjL> Homer: and when it says it's failing, it's usually failing (usually it's *already* failed, actually)
[01:42] <lupine_85> get a backup
[01:42] <Homer> I should run fsck to see what it finds out
[01:42] <Amaranth> Homer: I'm willing to bet if you run fsck on it it'll kill the disk.
[01:42] <kothz> My experience with SMART is that the warning comes as the drive is on the way out the door :)
[01:42] <Homer> I just bought the fu*king thing 30 days ago
[01:42] <Amaranth> Homer: Take it back.
[01:42] <LjL> Homer: happens with new drives...
[01:42] <lupine_85> then you should have RTB
[01:42] <Homer> ok
[01:42] <Homer> no WD
[01:42] <Amaranth> heh
[01:42] <lupine_85> ...from ebay?
[01:42] <Amaranth> worse
[01:43] <LjL> Homer: take it back, they'll know from the SMART parameters that you didn't break it. and if they still claim you did, then tell them you know they can check that you didn't
[01:43] <Homer> why do hard drives not work
[01:43] <kitche> lupine_85: but jerrcs should look at /etc/passwd and the /etc/shadow file to make sure their perms are right
[01:43] <Homer> with me
[01:43] <lupine_85> indeed
[01:43] <jerrcs> kitche: they are.
[01:43] <lupine_85> that was next :)
[01:43] <Homer> this is the second hard drive in 2 years
[01:43] <jerrcs> -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody root   3327 2006-09-28 19:39 /etc/passwd
[01:43] <jerrcs> -rw-r----- 1 root   shadow 3110 2006-09-28 19:39 /etc/shadow
[01:43] <LjL> Homer: modern hard drives can be sort of temperamental
[01:43] <orphennui> hello
[01:44] <lupine_85> Homer: they're discs of glass covered in magnetic dust spinning at 7200rpm
[01:44] <lupine_85> they're bound to be a bit fragile
[01:44] <zenwhen-lt> tru
[01:44] <Amaranth> Homer: You try spinning a 1/2 pound piece of metal at 7500 rpm and floating a rod 1cm above it without having something go wrong :P
[01:44] <LjL> 1cm?
[01:44] <mipstien> smaller than a cM
[01:44] <mipstien> cm*
[01:44] <Amaranth> LjL: Probably less
[01:44] <FlaX> !evms
[01:44] <Amaranth> Just a random toss
[01:44] <kitche> jerrcs: well if they are then it's probably a pam issue I usually do a reinstall to fix pam since it's a pain to fix
[01:44] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is standard. Version 2.5.4-5ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 82 kB, installed size 292 kB
[01:44] <Homer> I think it's because I mounted the HDD in my laptop without a ba
[01:44] <orphennui> someone is reporting that Gimmie is not working with Ubuntu for some reason, and was told in here that it needs some fixing.  Can anyone point me to a bug about this, or explain it a little?
[01:44] <Homer> bay
[01:44] <Homer> so it's flopping around
[01:44] <jerrcs> kitche: reinstalling is not an option, sorry...
[01:44] <lupine_85> heh
[01:45] <lupine_85> that's not good for it, no...
[01:45] <Amaranth> Homer: Oh man
[01:45] <zenwhen-lt> hey Amaranth; have you configured your ubuntu install so that you dont have to type your keyring pass each time you get into gnome for network manager?
[01:45] <Amaranth> Homer: Moving a HD at all while it's reading/writing can be fatal
[01:45] <LjL> wikipedia:  The hard disk's read-write heads fly on an air bearing which is a cushion of air only nanometers above the disk surface.
[01:45] <Amaranth> zenwhen-lt: I did once, it broke in edgy
[01:45] <zenwhen-lt> its pretty sweet
[01:45] <zenwhen-lt> I hate authenticating twice
[01:45] <kitche> jerrcs: well probably have to start reading about pam then since most people don't like messing with it
[01:45] <Homer> Amaranth: that is suprising on a laptop hdd
[01:46] <mipstien> are there any other programs or commands besides e2fsck or fsck that can help fix errors?
[01:46] <new2linx> does anyone know how to help me with LFTP?
[01:46] <Amaranth> Homer: It shouldn't be moving a lot while it's on :P
[01:46] <Amaranth> Just on your lap/a desk
[01:46] <jerrcs> kitche: i have alot of important data that needs to be up 24/7 on my home box, including shells, irc, dns, etc
[01:46] <Amaranth> but without the mount point it's bound to bounce around in there
[01:46] <new2linx> anyone, lftp?
[01:46] <thedash> so, Ubuntu's SATA controller is not so good?
[01:47] <zenwhen-lt> yeah I dont bounce my laptop around a lot when i am using it
[01:47] <heaths> mipstien: fsck isn't fixing the errors?
[01:47] <anonobomber> new2linx: what about lftp?
[01:47] <mipstien> no
[01:47] <Homer> well broke the HDD bay
[01:47] <mipstien> heaths: no
[01:47] <Homer> I broke it
[01:47] <new2linx> anonobomber, i can't seem to connect to my xbox?
[01:47] <Amaranth> Homer: Time to get a new one. :)
[01:47] <Homer> and my laptop manufacturer doesn't want to send me a new one
[01:47] <Homer> it's properitary(tm)
[01:47] <zenwhen-lt> Homer, ebay
[01:47] <Homer> hmm
[01:48] <zenwhen-lt> itll be like ten buck
[01:48] <anonobomber> new2linx: you sure you're using the right ip address and you have to modify your xbox to get ftp to it working
[01:48] <Amaranth> Homer: You'll have to pay them money for something you broke while doing user servicing.
[01:48] <zenwhen-lt> s
[01:48] <kitche> jerrcs yes I know so start reading about pam
[01:48] <eBs|Jack> has anyone ever successfully booted and installed with a usbstick
[01:48] <jerrcs> kitche: infact, it wasnt that. a simple chmod +s /usr/bin/passwd fixed it.
[01:48] <new2linx> i am typing in lftp, then open -u xbox,xbox 192.168.0.2
[01:48] <mipstien> heaths: it says that it fixed them and i can rerun it immediatly and it doesn't find anymore errors, but after i reboot outa my live cd and restart my root install it says there are more errors
[01:48] <Homer> ok well I'm going to run fsck on this shit
[01:48] <jerrcs> lol
[01:48] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: Only a minimal install.
[01:48] <lupine_85> get a backup first
[01:48] <Homer> there is nothing to backup
[01:48] <lupine_85> seriously get a backup
[01:48] <new2linx> anonobomber, yes, in know that. I can ftp into it with gftp just fine. so why can'rt lftp workl?
[01:48] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: No X, no GNOME, just a terminal, a text editor, and apt-get
[01:49] <Homer> just an almost stock linux install
[01:49] <new2linx> anonobomber, gftp sucks, it keeps connecting fine, showing me the folders but as soon as I try to transfer anything it says it can't connect to port 421 or some shit!
[01:49] <eBs|Jack> Amaranth: can you assist me via Private messages?
[01:49] <anonobomber> new2linx: have you tried konqueror?
[01:49] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: I've never done it
[01:49] <bamib> k3b error Failed to change write speed: 5540->11080 anyone know how to fix?
[01:50] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: I've just heard people talking about doing it.
[01:50] <Amaranth> !usbstick
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbstick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <Amaranth> !usb
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <Homer> the last time my HDD died I got no warning
[01:50] <Amaranth> grr
[01:50] <thoreauputic> new2linx: try "Connect to server" - nautilus does ftp too
[01:50] <kothz> !bcm43xx
[01:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:50] <Homer> is that normal?
[01:50] <new2linx> don't want to install kde on gnome, how much crap will it bring with it if I do?
[01:50] <bamib> because nobody knows crap in #kubuntu
[01:50] <Amaranth> bamib: Sounds like cdrecord doesn't like you.
[01:51] <anonobomber> new2linx: read the lftp tutorial on the lftp website
[01:51] <new2linx> thoreauputic, oh yeah. by the way. i found an awesome python built program that extracted my iso into a folder
[01:51] <Amaranth> bamib: It's a very vague problem.
[01:51] <bamib> it's when i burn an dvd iso
[01:51] <mipstien> does anyone know of another disk checker besides e2fsck or fsck?
[01:51] <new2linx> anonobomber, i am typing in exactly what that site says to?
[01:51] <kothz> homer: hard drives fail all the time.  if you get past the first couple months with a new HD, enjoy it for a while, but the natural state of all drives is, well, dead. :)
[01:51] <thoreauputic> new2linx: oh that's good - what is it called?
[01:51] <thedash> Ubuntu's SATA controller is not so good?
[01:51] <Amaranth> bamib: Use nautilus
[01:51] <bamib> it will always burn cd isos
[01:51] <lupine_85> Quantum Fireballs rocked
[01:51] <Amaranth> lupine_85: Seagate > *
[01:51] <lupine_85> I had two, and they both lasted 7 years +
[01:51] <bamib> I have but it would do anything
[01:51] <lupine_85> Quantum > *
[01:52] <thedash> I have a Seagate, and I have problems
[01:52] <bamib> and thank you Amaranth for helping me out
[01:52] <lupine_85> Quantum got bought out by <someone> though :(
[01:52] <new2linx> thoreauputic, gxiso. it also has an option to ftp the contents right to the xbox but it said it could'nt create the folder? so I am trying to ftp the contents mysekf
[01:52] <Amaranth> lupine_85: I once had a seagate get frozen in a solid block of ice, thaw out, and work.
[01:52] <thedash> I have a Seagate now, and it doesn't work!
[01:52] <Amaranth> lupine_85: Of course it failed about a day after I made a backup of it's contents.
[01:52] <kothz> yeah, maxtor bought quantum.
[01:52] <thedash> stoopid Ubuntu SATA controllers
[01:52] <heaths> thedash: try freezing it in a block of ice
[01:52] <lupine_85> once I fed my fireball through a shark and it came out the other end untouched
[01:53] <bamib> oh and by the way i'm using kubuntu so i think that might also be the prob.
[01:53] <Amaranth> lupine_85: haha
[01:53] <bamib> some way some how
[01:53] <lupine_85> pus it's such a cool name
[01:53] <lupine_85> plus*
[01:53] <thoreauputic> new2linx: If you are "new to linux" I think lftp has too steep a learning curve - I would try  nautilus first as I said
[01:53] <stu_> can I get my system to re-process fstab?
[01:53] <lupine_85> I don't know what maxtor did with that expertise
[01:53] <Amaranth> bamib: Well, almost everyone here uses Ubuntu so you're not likely to find someone who knows your software.
[01:53] <stu_> added a mount, wanna test it
[01:53] <kothz> stu: mount -a
[01:53] <bruenig> stu_, sudo mount -a
[01:53] <stu_> ta
[01:53] <bamib> indeed not
[01:53] <bruenig> or maybe no mount
[01:54] <bruenig> or maybe no sudo*
[01:54] <Amaranth> bamib: If you switch to Ubuntu we might be able to help. ;)
[01:54] <kothz> sigh.  I keep forgetting the sudo... you're probably right depending on the mount options
[01:54] <bamib> I was using it, but then it started to screw up
[01:54] <mipstien> if e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?
[01:54] <stu_> smb connection failed, wheres the log?
[01:55] <Buglouse> is Nautilus the most popular file browser?  What are some other popular ones? and does anyone know of some File Managers? (Ubuntu Drapper)
[01:55] <bamib> like the destop and the toolbar has blury and stuff would stay on there that wasn't running
[01:55] <kothz> try mounting it manually first, stu ... get the mount options ironed out then stick it in your fstab
[01:55] <lupine_85> Amaranth: he got banned from #kubuntu :)
[01:55] <EvanIsaac> hey guys, i just started using linux and i'm trying to get my W111T netgear USB adapter to work using ndiswrapper
[01:55] <EvanIsaac> here is the information that i think will be important
[01:55] <EvanIsaac> Card: NETGEAR WG111T
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * Chipset: Atheros USB
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * encryption: WPA-PSK (TKIP)
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * usbid: 1385:4250
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * Driver: Netgear windows driver Version: 21/06/2005, 1.2 from http://www.netgear.de/download/WG111T/WG111T_GRV1.2.zip
[01:55] <LjL> !paste
[01:55] <EvanIsaac>     * Other: This driver comes with two sets of .inf and .sys files: athfmwdl and wg111t. Both of these must be installed with their *.inf files. After that, with version 1.7rc1, ndiswrapper can be used as in the case of other drivers; earlier versions of ndiswrapper required load_fw_ar5523 program to be run, but it is not needed anymore. Suspend/resume also works now.
[01:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:55] <Homer> Buglouse: stick with Nautilus imo :)
[01:56] <Buglouse> Homer: what can I use for a mass file renamer?
[01:56] <Homer> bash script I guess
[01:56] <bruenig> Buglouse, you can use the terminal
[01:56] <EvanIsaac> could somebody please walk me through doing this? I don't know a thing
[01:56] <LjL> Buglouse: "rename" possibly
[01:56] <kitche> EvanIsaac: use madwifi instead might be easier
[01:56] <mipstien> if e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?
[01:56] <EvanIsaac> madwifi?
[01:56] <lupine_85> kitche: I don't think the madwifi drivers support usb :(
[01:56] <new2linx> thoreauputic, it says I don't have permission to view the contents. and yes, I entered the correct password and username?
[01:56] <EvanIsaac> aw man
[01:57] <Amaranth> eBs|Jack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:57] <EvanIsaac> well do you guys have any idea what the stuff i posted means?
[01:57] <SeanTater> Does anyone have a wireless G card that works easily with Linux, something you'd recommend?
[01:57] <LjL> Buglouse: i can't find the package it's in, though... perhaps it's there by default
[01:57] <LjL> (weird)
[01:57] <lupine_85> there is ath_pci.ko but not ath_isb.ko
[01:57] <stu_> can anyone tell me how to make my middle button act a scroll toggle? like in windows?
[01:57] <lupine_85> SeanTater: anything ralink
[01:57] <thoreauputic> new2linx: "it" meaning what?
[01:57] <thoreauputic> new2linx: and what direcory ?
[01:57] <lupine_85> Particularly rt2500 and rt2570
[01:57] <PoPpiLLs> I have Breezy installed as a server if I upgrade it to dapper will i have alot of problems ?
[01:58] <pwk> Hello
[01:58] <thoreauputic> new2linx: directory *
[01:58] <lupine_85> although rt61 and rt73 are supppported in edgy OOTB
[01:58] <lupine_85> anything Atheros PCI is also good, as are ZyDAS cards
[01:58] <EvanIsaac> any volunteers willing to help me using ndiswrapper?
[01:58] <mipstien> if e2fsck does not fix my errors on my partition what should i do?
[01:59] <lupine_85> panic?
[01:59] <mipstien> sounds good
[01:59] <pwk> can anybody tell me where i can find a list of what software works in ubuntu.. like in wine ?
[01:59] <mipstien> *throws arms up and screams*
[01:59] <lupine_85> EvanIsaac: it's pretty easy. there are walkthroughs on the wiki and forums
[01:59] <lupine_85> !wifi
[01:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:59] <bruenig> pwk, one the wine site
[01:59] <new2linx> thoreauputic, nautilus
[01:59] <mipstien> www.winehq.com
[01:59] <lupine_85> now /me must get in the bath
[01:59] <EvanIsaac> well i checked the ndiswrapper wiki and didn't understand a thing
[01:59] <mipstien> appdb.winehq.com to be more precise
[01:59] <pwk> will it take less resources then windows,, and will i need av ?
[01:59] <kothz> mipstien: how important was the data on the drive that failed?
[02:00] <thoreauputic> new2linx: what is it telling you you don't have permission to access?
[02:00] <mipstien> kothz: its not that the data is important, cause i have now backed it up, but that i don't wanna have to reconfigure everything... some important stuff but its fixxed.
[02:00] <Homer> so when is edgy eft coming out?
[02:00] <LjL> !edgy
[02:00] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:00] <mipstien> beta was released today
[02:00] <bruenig> october 26 I think
[02:00] <kintaro0e> hi guys..how to update the cached records of the bind servers.for example: foo.com[which is from the internet]  change its ip. but the previous ip of the foo.com is cached in my dns server. how to update it to reflect the correct ip?
[02:01] <PoPpiLLs> any body got a good backup solution to reccomend im using mondorescue now
[02:01] <bruenig> !backup
[02:01] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[02:01] <LjL> kintaro0e: your DNS server is usually at the ISP side, and you can't do anything to update it... DNS entries usually get refreshed every 2 days
[02:01] <PoPpiLLs> i want to backup my server before i update it to dapper
[02:01] <mipstien> Another thing... Anybody know if you backup all your files on a drive and copy them into a fresh install should it keep everything intact like before it was copied
[02:01] <new2linx> thoreauputic, the ftp server
[02:02] <stu_> why has that question been ingored all day, someone must the middle button as a scroll toggle??
[02:02] <Neo8750> LjL: there no way to update it manually?
[02:02] <kintaro0e> LjL: i have my own internal dns server
[02:02] <Homer> somone invent a cheap solid state technology that doesn't have the rate of failure of HDDs
[02:02] <levander> Has anyone gotten subversion to work with emacs' vc mode?
[02:02] <Homer> please :)
[02:02] <bruenig> mipstien, in theory
[02:02] <levander> under ubuntu
[02:02] <bruenig> that is what one of those backups tells you to do, the first link I believe
[02:02] <levander> It seems vc-svn.el isn't available in any package.
[02:02] <mipstien> bruenig: i can post the command i used to copy if that would help you decide
[02:02] <Diego> Asians in your basement, of course.
[02:02] <PoPpiLLs> so breezy to dapper should be a piece of cake ?
[02:02] <thoreauputic> new2linx: did you specify a port? is the server running? Usually a refusal means the server is not running or firewalled etc
[02:02] <Max_-> Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... something is missing, what is it??
[02:02] <czer323> ANyone else having extremely long timeouts for archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:02] <bruenig> mipstein, this here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[02:02] <EvanIsaac> there isn't an FAQ for my adapter
[02:03] <mipstien> yeh that is what i used
[02:03] <rendi> help my apache don't wanna start
[02:03] <LjL> Neo8750, kintaro0e: yes, you can update it manually, *if* you have access to the server... if you have your own, well, it depends on which server software you're using... but what about just restarting it?  like in "sudo /etc/init.d/mydnsserver-whateveritis restart"
[02:03] <bruenig> well if it says it does and is on there without much complaint, it can be assumed that it works
[02:03] <rendi> hgelloo
[02:03] <rendi> help my apache don't wanna start
[02:03] <jrib> rendi: how did you install it?
[02:03] <new2linx> thoreauputic, the server is running, i can log into it using gftp. i just can;t transfer anythign cause gftp sucks my asshole.
[02:03] <stu_> rendi: do you think this is a psychic channell?
[02:03] <Neo8750> LjL: the reason i asked was because i figured a simple cron job could do the updates[
[02:04] <kothz> i'm going to procrastinate making this bcm43xx card work natively by making popcorn. :)
[02:04] <Neo8750> but if it wasn't [possible to do manually i was just going to stay quiet and smile
[02:04] <mipstien> bruenig: my only concern was that it would not readd my panels correctly and my themes
[02:04] <thoreauputic> new2linx: watch the language or you will be out of here in a flash
[02:04] <thoreauputic> !language
[02:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:04] <kintaro0e> LjL: yes..i have access on my server..because this is a master server for my internal[network] . so how to update the cached records?
[02:04] <bruenig> mipstien, those panels and themes are in those files somewhere
[02:04] <kintaro0e> without restarting it
[02:04] <Homer> how can my HDD be in the verge of destruction and still transfer gigabytes of data
[02:04] <kintaro0e> ?
[02:04] <shad0w1e> how do I add a username (for a process) that cant actually log into the machine?
[02:04] <kothz> flash doesn't work well.  Any disappearance probably won't have any sound :)
[02:04] <bruenig> everything is dictated by a file
[02:04] <LjL> Neo8750: well, i don't think a cron job would be necessary, because usually the server software itself updates the records every once in a while... which, normally, is 2 days, but i suppose that can be changed in most software
[02:04] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: ty for reminding me i have to install flash :)
[02:05] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: heh
[02:05] <kothz> Homer: ever heard of the phrase 'going nowhere fast'? :)
[02:05] <LjL> kintaro0e, it depends on which server you're using. i'm using a simple server called dnsmasq, and to clear the cache i only need to restart it... if you're using bind9, or something else, i wouldn't know the specifics
[02:05] <mipstien> bruenig: i copied everything except dev, media, proc, lost+found, mnt, and sys
[02:06] <Neo8750> LjL: i was going off he read all the config files and such and has no way to do that (yeah it was dumb but i like to belive everyone rtfm)
[02:06] <bruenig> mipstien, ok, well looks good. that is what it tells you to do
[02:06] <kintaro0e> LjL: ah..i see.use bind9
[02:06] <Dekkard> can one really add mp3 support to edgy?
[02:06] <Dekkard> ive installed every lib i can think of
[02:06] <bruenig> !mp3
[02:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:07] <mipstien> bruenig: that would still keep all my config files intact, i was worried about proc, and sys
[02:07] <LjL> kintaro0e: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.protocols.dns.bind/browse_thread/thread/a2a820843e074eb2/62d8a755643007de?lnk=st&q=bind9+manually+update+records&rnum=4&hl=en#62d8a755643007de
[02:07] <new2linx> thoreauputic,  are you serious?
[02:07] <bruenig> proc and sys are created on boot up and don't hold anything of "real use" if I may say that
[02:07] <thoreauputic> new2linx: we have a Code of Conduct
[02:07] <mipstien> ok thank you, i just didn't wanna have any real problems :)
[02:07] <thoreauputic> !CoC
[02:07] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:07] <mipstien> bruenig one last question
[02:07] <Gobbi> Ol
[02:07] <LjL> !es
[02:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:08] <kintaro0e> LjL: thanks
[02:08] <czer323> Can someone confirm that archive.ubuntu.com is down or not responding?  apt-get and ping are both timing out for me.
[02:08] <LjL> czer323: it pings for me
[02:08] <thoreauputic> new2linx: some people are more easily offended than others - this channel is international and multicutural
[02:08] <mipstien> bruenig: if i format my drive through a live cd and resize it and then copy the files over, technically all i should have to do it mkdir those directories and i shoudl be able to reboot into  it no problem's? in theory
[02:08] <jrib> czer323: works fine here as well
[02:08] <LjL> czer323: resolves to 195.248.90.23
[02:08] <^Down> When I play DVD's they skip really bad, is there a way to stop this?
[02:08] <pwk> i see wine works with alot of prgrams
[02:08] <bruenig> czer323, when i go to http://archive.ubuntu.com/, I get a tree
[02:09] <^Down> Someone told me how before, but I can't remember the command line
[02:09] <new2linx> thoreauputic,  ok-dowk
[02:09] <pwk> but, dwhats its security like, and system responsiveness ?
[02:09] <vince790> hello all
[02:09] <LjL> pwk: it's not magic, that's for sure. but it does allow running a good deal of Windows programs without actually having Windows
[02:09] <new2linx> thoreauputic,  oops, i meant to write okee  dokee but I had a brain fart
[02:09] <bruenig> mispstien yep, should all work. There would be no difference between what you have now and what you had then. Because all of what is seen or represented or whatever on your computer is dictated by those files. Identical files create identical system
[02:09] <jrib> ^Down: have you enabled dma?
[02:09] <vince790> was wondering if anyone has been able to install ubuntu on an ibm 380d
[02:09] <^Down> I don't really know
[02:09] <czer323> thanks jrib, LjL, ^Down>  Unfortunately it's still not working for me.  I'll cycle power to the network and try again.  Thanks again guys.
[02:10] <mipstien> pwk: i play quite a lot of windows games through wine and have used it for many other windows applications
[02:10] <thoreauputic> new2linx: umm... you just had another one - i suggesttaking the foot out of your mouth
[02:10] <LjL> pwk: when talking about security, one must always be cautious... but the common knowledge is that very few viruses or other malicious stuff has a real chance to do any harm through wine
[02:10] <jrib> ubotu: tell ^Down about dma
[02:10] <mipstien> bruenig, thank you so much, if i coudl hug you i would :P
[02:10] <new2linx> thoreauputic, dude!!! I am sorry but FART is NOT  a swear!!!!!
[02:10] <LjL> pwk: performance can be even better than native Windows sometimes. although there is no decent 3D support yet, if that's what you're thinking about (but you might want to read about Cedega for that)
[02:10] <Max_-> Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... something is missing, what is it??
[02:10] <pwk> so using wine, its defeating the security purpose >?
[02:10] <bruenig> good thing you can't...
[02:11] <LjL> pwk: hm? don't get you
[02:11] <bruenig> pwk, why do you want to use wine so much
[02:11] <bruenig> what programs do you need
[02:11] <thoreauputic> new2linx: arguing with Ops is never a good idea, you know
[02:11] <mipstien> pwk, i am using wine to play world of warcraft and wc3 and other games and i get over 100fps in most games
[02:11] <rubso> hey guys, Adobe has released a minor update for Flash 7 on Linux, how can i upgrade my older version?
[02:11] <pwk> i thoguht u where saying with wine windows viruses can come in
[02:11] <Vekemi> How would I find out what kind of modem I'm running so I can download the appropriate drivers for it?
[02:11] <^Down> Thanks jrib
[02:11] <Neo8750> mipstien: you get steam to work/
[02:11] <new2linx> i am not arguing with you. i am simply pointing out a FACT.
[02:12] <mipstien> neo8750, yes i do
[02:12] <DarkMageZ> rubso, there's a newer version of the package available in the backports multiverse repo
[02:12] <pwk> and my games with my geforce 6800 card will run like windows ?
[02:12] <thoreauputic> new2linx: stop it. My patinece is wearing out
[02:12] <bruenig> pwk, I suppose they could corrupt your little windows compatibility layer, but it shouldn't affect any of your linux stuff. At the very worse,  you might have to delete your wine directory
[02:12] <mipstien> pwk, yes
[02:12] <thoreauputic> *patience
[02:12] <Neo8750> mipstien: and you use regular wine and not winex or something right?
[02:12] <rubso> k thanks
[02:12] <mipstien> neo8750, yes i use winehq.com
[02:12] <pwk> ok
[02:12] <new2linx> thoreauputic, thank you for trying to help me earlier. Get off your power trip dude.
[02:12] <pwk> thxs
[02:12] <vince790> max you need libdvdccs
[02:13] <Neo8750> mipstien: well because of you i'm restarting an old project
[02:13] <kothz> ok, reinstalling dapper.  wish me luck with my bcm43xx :)
[02:13] <pwk> and if i get this od rpgram thats for windows, it has a chance of running in windows ?
[02:13] <mipstien> neo8750, i copied my steam folder from my windows install and made sure i copied also my font files form windows into the wine fonts folder and it works without any trouble
[02:13] <thoreauputic> new2linx: it isn't a power trip - we have to keep a lid on vulgarity and stuff - as I said, consider the code of conduct
[02:13] <LjL> thoreauputic: well, i'll do it anyway. wikipedia says, "The word is generally considered to be mildly offensive and unsuitable for formal settings by modern English speakers, though more conservative locales may consider the word to be vulgar." -- sounds to me like a all-around innocent word :)
[02:13] <thoreauputic> LjL: *sigh*
[02:13] <superkirbyartis1> I need help.  Authentication works with pon, but internet does not.
[02:14] <mipstien> neo8750, only problem i ran into was updating steam from base .exe installer, you have to run a particular command to make it pass up the 27% bug
[02:14] <thoreauputic> LjL: I consider it so - in some countries they don't
[02:14] <Neo8750> mipstien: got ya
[02:14] <new2linx> can you please point out to me where I can read the code of conduct and where it states that fart is a swear word. i think you are gong a little over board
[02:14] <Neo8750> well i'm off
[02:14] <mipstien> ill give you the page in a second hold on
[02:14] <thoreauputic> LjL: you notice I haven't banned or kicked anyone over thia
[02:14] <thoreauputic> *this
[02:14] <mipstien> neo8750 wait just one moment
[02:14] <Neo-Away> ?
[02:14] <mipstien> ill give you the steam page
[02:15] <DarkMageZ> !coc
[02:15] <superkirbyartis1> Internet problems.  Authentication with pon works, but internet does not.
[02:15] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:15] <superkirbyartis1> !the ubuntu code of conduct?
[02:15] <mipstien> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[02:15] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[02:15] <mipstien> neo8750 http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[02:15] <Neo-Away> mipstien: k thanks
[02:15] <mipstien> np
[02:15] <superkirbyartis1> !nevermind
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nevermind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <bruenig> vulgarity itself is completely arbitrary and has no intrinsic reason for why it is vulgar except that people of a region have decided that it is. Seems hard to impose something like this on a channel that in theory could be hosting people from every country and every culture.
[02:15] <heaths> new2linx: if you aren't contributing  you are detracting....
[02:16] <mipstien> bruenig thank you again !
[02:16] <new2linx> thoreauputic, thank you. i'll read it over. thanks again for trying to help me earlier
[02:16] <Vekemi> :\
[02:16] <thoreauputic> General Notice: what you or i consider harmless is seen as rude in some cultures. Please read the Code of Conduct
[02:16] <thoreauputic> new2linx: you're welcome
[02:16] <new2linx> heaths
[02:16] <new2linx> heaths your right. I am outta here
[02:17] <Vekemi> How do I find what kind of modem I'm running (on Windows or Ubuntu, doesn't matter) so I can download the appropriate drivers for it? Right now when I sudo wvdialconf /etc/wtvdial.conf, it doesn't show anything.
[02:18] <jrib> ubotu: tell Vekemi about dialup
[02:18] <Astray> Vekemi, In windows press windows key + pause/break and cick hardware then device manager
[02:18] <pwk> can anybody tell me where i can find a guide to starting to use ubntu.. like the basics ?
[02:18] <rendi> hello
[02:18] <czer323_> Amazing, I can go everywhere on the internet except for archive.ubuntu.com.  And i know other people can reach it, so it's just me.  Very weird.
[02:19] <bruenig> pwk, ubuntu or linux
[02:19] <rendi> i have problem with ubuntu
[02:19] <bruenig> ?
[02:19] <rendi> can help
[02:19] <jrib> pwk: system > help  (or help.ubuntu.com)
[02:19] <Astray> czer323_, Maybe your DNS is having problems ;.;
[02:19] <pwk> ubntu
[02:19] <rendi> i'm paste here http://pastebin.ca/185489
[02:19] <btdown> the beta's out...im sure they are all getting hit hard
[02:19] <gnomefreak> !mirrors > czer323_
[02:19] <Astray> Is there a way I can make xchat open links in firefox instead of mozilla?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> btdown: it is
[02:19] <jrib> Astray: it is in the xchat settings I believe, not sure where
[02:20] <eurytus> Is it possible to read/write to ext3 partitions from windows?
[02:20] <bruenig> Astray, I wonder the same, mine use to upen in swiftfox but now it opens in opera
[02:20] <Max_-> Just put a DVD in, Totem started but .. it can't read... what is missing??
[02:20] <czer323_> Astray> if i just goto the main ip: 195.248.90.54, it still doesn't work, therefore... not a dns issue.
[02:20] <rendi> hello sir
[02:20] <Vekemi> Also, when I update the kernel, it shows the updated kernel as a seperate boot on GRUB. How do I make it so it only shows my most recent updated kernel?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> Max_-: the codecs for dvds?
[02:20] <jrib> eurytus: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:21] <Astray> ooh I found it
[02:21] <Astray> ;.;
[02:21] <superkirbyartis1> I have problems with ppp.
[02:22] <kitche> Vekemi: you have to edit menu.lst it's in /boot/grub/
[02:22] <mehigh> where can i find the codex for playing wmv?
[02:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell mehigh about wmv
[02:22] <Max_-> gnomefreak, looks like they're missing, yes.. is there a package for it, or something?
[02:22] <vince790> Max_- you need to download libdvdccs
[02:22] <gnomefreak> !restricted > Max_-
[02:22] <pwk> can i pm someone my specs to check if ubuntu would run fine ?
[02:22] <Max_-> vince790,  thanks!!
[02:22] <Vekemi> Alright, thanks kitche.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> Max_-: read your pm from ubotu
[02:22] <vince790> no problem max
[02:22] <czer323_> gnomefreak> do you know if there are any mirror repositories?  Cause I was just tryign to apt-get upgrade.
[02:23] <shwag> im not seeing mod_env in the repositories
[02:23] <gnomefreak> czer323_: i just gave you a list of them
[02:23] <gnomefreak> Max_-: your gonna need more than just that
[02:23] <pwk> ok
[02:23] <pwk> i'll post here
[02:24] <btdown> !upgrading
[02:24] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:24] <Vekemi> Also, again (sorry for the huge amounts of questions, I just installed Dapper [my first linux distro]  3 days ago), when I sudo apt-get install kernel-headers, it only gives me a list of kernels that have different numbers than what's shown in /lib/modules
[02:24] <pwk> p4 with ht @ 3.4ghz 1gb ram 2x 120gb hard drive nvidia 6800 256mb video card sound blaster 32 bit audio card
[02:24] <Vekemi> How do I make it show the kernel drivers in /lib/modules?
[02:25] <jrib> pwk: you will run ubuntu fine
[02:25] <pwk> would my pc run ubuntu ?
[02:25] <pwk> ok
[02:25] <jrib> more than fine
[02:25] <pwk> i really want to remove windows vista dn switch
[02:25] <vince790> Max_- you also need the win32 codecs
[02:25] <pwk> but application compatiblity is whats shutting me down
[02:25] <vince790> sorry bout the delay
[02:26] <lostinc> Is there a way to archive downloaded synaptic packages to a removable harddrive and then reinstall Ubuntu  and copy those packages back so that I wont have to redownload them?
[02:26] <Max_-> vince790, okay...  win32 codecs...   I'm actually trying to install Gxine...
[02:26] <EvanIsaac> can somebody please help me get my Netgear W111T adapter working
[02:26] <gnomefreak> pwk: i have a pc with dapper on it its a p2 450mhz 512mb ram nvidia 5200 and a 20 gig hd it runs fine (better than windows ever ran on that pc)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Max_-: libdvdread
[02:27] <EvanIsaac> and please don't link me to a howto, i need more detailed instructions than that
[02:27] <pwk> will ubuntu be hard to leanr?
[02:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> pwk, the fact that i can double click an .exe file in linux and have it run without using virtualization isn't compatable enough? :P
[02:27] <vince790> gnomefreak..........is that required for gnome use?
[02:27] <mlowe> <<< beta alternative install just worked for me ;) !!
[02:27] <gnomefreak> pwk: was windows hard to learn in the 3 years it took you to learn it?
[02:27] <SeanTater> pwk: no
[02:27] <vince790> as kde......xine it isnt required
[02:27] <cafuego> EvanIsaac: Check wiki.ubuntu.com; search for WG111T.
[02:27] <gnomefreak> vince790: it is required for dvd playing
[02:27] <bruenig> lostinc, they are probably in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:28] <EvanIsaac> And I quote myself by saying, "please don't link me to a howto, i need more detailed instructions than that"
[02:28] <czer323_> gnomefreak> thanks for the list.  I had only clicked ont eh first link. ;)  Didn't see the second one til after i asked again.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> pwk: if you read and want to learn yes ubuntu is very easy to learn
[02:28] <vince790> :S maybe time to switch ubuntus gnome to a kde ;)
[02:28] <SeanTater> pwk: as long as you get past easyubuntu, (multimedia codec installation assistant), it's all downhill from there
[02:28] <gnomefreak> vince790: why not use both
[02:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> vince790, kubuntu ?
[02:28] <Vekemi> How do I download the kernel-headers that match what's in /lib/modules versus the headers that it automatically gives me when I sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[02:28] <smax> hi guys
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Vekemi: what kernel do you have?
[02:28] <shwag> whats the deal with  mod_env ??
[02:29] <bruenig> kde, good thing they spent so much time on the bouncing icon when things load because loading is all you get to watch
[02:29] <pwk> so ubnutu would run windows apps.. without wine ?
[02:29] <smax> has anyone ever deployed a tftp server?  the web is full of shit.
[02:29] <superkirbyartis1> PPP problem.
[02:29] <lostinc> bruenig: if I save that folder and copy it back after the fact will synaptic pick up on it?
[02:29] <shwag> donde
[02:29] <gnomefreak> pwk: no
[02:29] <superkirbyartis1> Help please.
[02:29] <SeanTater> smax: !language
[02:29] <gnomefreak> pwk: ubuntu has apps that take place of windows apps
[02:29] <Vekemi> It says "/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386"
[02:29] <rgg> hey,is there any msn client with "audio conversation" support?
[02:29] <pwk> ok
[02:29] <pwk> anybody here get limewire to run in ubntu?
[02:29] <bruenig> lostinc, you can just sudo dpkg -i those packages in there
[02:29] <SeanTater> smax: I'm 99.999998% sure many have done it before
[02:29] <kothz> rgg: i think amsn has that?
[02:29] <lostinc> I see bruenig
[02:29] <rgg> kothz: i don't think so
[02:29] <EvanIsaac> could somebody please help me get my Netgear W111T USB adapter working, the howto's and FAQ's aren't helping me, i just got ubuntu
[02:29] <lostinc> Thanks! :) Time saved
[02:30] <rgg> kothz: i'm on amsn now,i can't find that "option"
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Vekemi: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386  but iirc the kernel for dapper is -27 now
[02:30] <Vekemi> Oh yeah.
[02:30] <Vekemi> It's 2.6.15-27
[02:30] <czer323_> gnomefreak> do you know if these servers are all up-to-date?  I'm trying to update to the beta edgy on a test machine.
[02:30] <Vekemi> I forgot that I updated it this morning.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Vekemi: uname -r will tell you what kernel you are running
[02:30] <gnomefreak> czer323_: no i dont
[02:30] <czer323_> gnomefreak> thanks anyway
[02:30] <btdown> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:30] <gnomefreak> czer323_: i dont ever use mirrors unless i have to
[02:30] <Vekemi> Alright.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> btdown: yes but people dont understand that all the time
[02:31] <Vekemi> Where would I find drivers for a dialup modem, too?
[02:31] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: why not mirrors
[02:31] <SeanTater> mirrors++
[02:31] <gnomefreak> SeanTater: why mirrors?
[02:31] <Vekemi> Nevermind.
[02:31] <Vekemi> Found it.
[02:31] <btdown> gnomefreak: gotchu man... ;()
[02:31] <unics> could someone tell me if I am allowed to traslate the Ubuntu Desktop guide an publish it on my web site ?
[02:31] <EvanIsaac> so nobody here can decipher an FAQ to tell me in plain newbish how to get my Netgear W111T adapter working
[02:31] <gnomefreak> SeanTater: repos work fine here no need to use mirrors
[02:31] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: download from ubuntu.com _> 114 Kb/s download from osuosl.org -> 650 Kb/s
[02:32] <bruenig> unics, it is probably already available in that language
[02:32] <rgg> so,is there any msn client with audio support for ubuntu?
[02:32] <czer323_> SeanTater> is that mirror up to date? ;)
[02:32] <vince790> msn client with audio support for linux?
[02:32] <czer323_> seanTater> if so, i'll use it. ;)
[02:32] <vince790> :P
[02:32] <gnomefreak> SeanTater: my net connection is so slow it wouldnt make a difference here its dsl lite
[02:32] <SeanTater> czer323_: I've never known it to be anything else
[02:32] <kitche> EvanIsaac: i m in class right now or else I would help you out
[02:32] <vince790> let me know if you find that one rgg :)
[02:32] <bruenig> unics, but I would assume you could do that. The only thing they restrict from what I understand is logos and such
[02:32] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: Cable modem here
[02:32] <Vekemi> I looked http://www.motorola.com/softmodem/driver.htm <-- here to see if there were any drivers for my Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem card, but there were only ones for RedHat and Mandrake...
[02:32] <Vekemi> :x
[02:32] <SeanTater> czer323_: where do you live?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[02:33] <SeanTater> czer323_: geographical location makes a huge difference
[02:33] <czer323_> SeanTater> Ohio, USA
[02:33] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...does anyone know how to install synaptec in ubuntu? apt-get can't seem to locate it
[02:33] <EvanIsaac> kitche: how long until your class gets out?
[02:33] <SeanTater> czer323_: osuosl is great then, they have a mirror in chicago
[02:33] <rgg> vince790: ok,what is going to be your address in 2010?that way i can send you a letter when i find it :P
[02:33] <kitche> umm about an hour or so
[02:33] <Gevaudan82> err, sorry, i meant synaptec in kubuntu
[02:33] <mytruehero> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but it hangs on "Uncompressing kernel... booting linux, ok". Any suggestions?
[02:33] <SeanTater> czer323_: ubuntu.com is in england
[02:33] <shwag> how come debians apache-common has mod_env, but on ubuntu mod_env is nowhere to be found.
[02:33] <bruenig> Gevaudan82, it is synaptic not synaptec
[02:34] <SeanTater> czer323_: use this-> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu
[02:34] <Gevaudan82> bruenig: oh man, i feel like an idiot now...thanks for clearing this up...i had a similar problem in a program once typing separator and separater
[02:34] <SeanTater> czer323_: replace the ubuntu url with it in sources.list
[02:34] <bruenig> happens
[02:34] <czer323_> Seantater> it appears that http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/ is another mirror that I can't access... :-\
[02:35] <SeanTater> czer323_: try with ftp:// instead
[02:35] <SeanTater> czer323_: maybe a proxie?
[02:35] <SeanTater>  /proxy/
[02:35] <Vekemi> All the drivers http://www.motorola.com/softmodem/driver.htm <--- here have .rpm file extensions, and if I recall correctly, Ubuntu is based on Debian. :|
[02:35] <adam> i can't get easyubuntu removed from my comp. I got it to enable restricted stuff, but it didn't work so I did it manually and now easyubuntu won't go away.
[02:35] <EvanIsaac> if anybody can help me getting my wifi usb adapter working they can find the information on it at ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/metawiki/index.php/list
[02:36] <EvanIsaac> it's number 20 under N
[02:36] <ubutom> Vekemi, i don` t know if this will work, but you could try and use alien to make a .deb file from the rpm`s
[02:36] <Vekemi> Okay.
[02:36] <f4t4l`> Okay, need help installing....
[02:36] <Vekemi> How would I use alien?
[02:36] <ubutom> first you install it :)
[02:36] <f4t4l`> It hangs at "Booting kernel, okay."
[02:36] <f4t4l`> and i can type and stuff.
[02:36] <f4t4l`> Like command prompt
[02:37] <shwag> when I do  apache2 -l | grep env   i see  mod_env.c   but if I   locate mod_env , even after a updatedb , i see it nowhere on my system.
[02:37] <SeanTater> f4t4l`:check the md5 of the file you downloaded
[02:37] <czer323_> SeanTater> yeah, it's not working either way.  I assume that my ISP is having some issues.  I can use most sites fine, just some others I can't.  I'll keep trying different mirrors, thanks
[02:37] <Vekemi> Where would I get it? :x Right now, the only way I can access the internet on Ubuntu is by LANning the school's network.
[02:37] <f4t4l`> SeanTater:No, i ordered the CD
[02:37] <SeanTater> czer323_: if I were you, I might whine at my ISP if half of the web won;t load for me
[02:37] <ubutom> and then you download the rpm, open a terminal, and type alien whatever.rpm, it will transform the .rpm into .deb
[02:37] <SeanTater> f4t4l`: um --
[02:38] <SeanTater> f4t4l`: dunno
[02:38] <SeanTater> f4t4l`: never had that problem
[02:38] <vince790> does anyone know a work around to get a computer to boot for install when cd cant be made primary first boot?
[02:38] <f4t4l`> hmmm
[02:38] <ubutom> well, try sudo aptitude install alien
[02:38] <czer323_> SeanTater> Yeah, I know that they'll fix it.  It's just a matter of when.  If it's too many other sites, then yeah, I will complain.  Otherwise, I'll just wait it out.  Thanks though.
[02:38] <vince790> or even a boot period?
[02:38] <SeanTater> czer323_: sorry --
[02:39] <shwag> it appears its compiled into apache2.
[02:39] <tempted> woop woops! how's everyone edgy going?
[02:39] <f4t4l`> Is there a way i could install Ubuntu other than booting and installing?
[02:39] <czer323_> Tempted> I heard edgy went beta.  I'm trying to check it out myself.
[02:40] <f4t4l`> And it says there are lots of defects, could it be my CD drive?
[02:40] <Ketsuban> In trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". I noticed that if I change to the "sis" driver (from "vesa") then it seems to work, but thecolouring is iffy. Anyone able to lend a hand?
[02:40] <mytruehero> vince790: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[02:40] <Max_-> dvd:// ... if it is in  /cdrom0 .. what do I write there?
[02:40] <vince790> :( no net car mytruehero
[02:40] <vince790> card*
[02:41] <mytruehero> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but it hangs on "Uncompressing kernel... booting linux, ok". Any suggestions?
[02:41] <vince790> just got this Ancient laptop
[02:41] <f4t4l`> YES
[02:41] <f4t4l`> ME TOO
[02:41] <f4t4l`> Mytruehero
[02:41] <f4t4l`> same problem...
[02:41] <Vekemi> So, I download alien via aptitude, and then I sudo apt-dpkg blahblahblah.deb, right?
[02:41] <Volvo> BrB
[02:41] <bruenig> I tried knot 3, looked and felt pretty much the same. The fonts were awful, but I suppose they always are until you change them.
[02:41] <vince790> ive tried booting with a win98 bootdisk
[02:41] <vince790> and using loadlin
[02:41] <mytruehero> vince790: hmm. "burn" the iso to an external HD, and boot from that, perhaps? don't know if that's possible
[02:41] <vince790> to no prevail
[02:41] <heaths> is there a way to force synaptic to get apps via download?
[02:41] <heaths> keeps asking for the install CD
[02:41] <tempted> bru: i am gonna wait a week i think
[02:42] <tempted> till i try edgy...
[02:42] <f4t4l`> mytruehero?
[02:42] <f4t4l`> what comp do you have?
[02:42] <elaziz> hello, is there any one who using linux?
[02:42] <bruenig> heaths, it shouldn't do that. What app do you want.
[02:42] <mytruehero> f4t4l': er. what do you mean?
[02:42] <kothz>  !fglrx
[02:42] <vince790> ibm 380D
[02:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:42] <vince790> its a laptop
[02:42] <f4t4l`> Like, old, compaq?
[02:42] <jrib> elaziz: yes, there are many here who use linux
[02:42] <Vekemi> Anyone here ever use PengAOL?
[02:43] <mytruehero> f4t4l': new. assembled from parts
[02:43] <Ketsuban> In trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". I noticed that if I change to the "sis" driver (from "vesa") then it seems to work, but thecolouring is iffy. Anyone able to lend a hand?
[02:43] <adam> i can't get easyubuntu removed from my comp. I got it to enable restricted stuff, but it didn't work so I did it manually and now easyubuntu won't go away. help plz?
[02:43] <jrib> adam: have you asked in #easyubuntu?
[02:43] <heaths> bruenig: just need 'make'
[02:43] <f4t4l`> [mytruehero] : Okay.,,,
[02:43] <bruenig> adam, you just delete it
[02:43] <elaziz> jrib: i just wanna see someone dealing with main window of irc client :) before my "enter key event" i saw many lines going and going :)
[02:43] <heaths> bruenig: vmware_tools needs it to install
[02:43] <tempted> you guys all using xchat? i kinda dred using it for some reason...
[02:43] <bruenig> heaths, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install make
[02:44] <jrib> elaziz: oh ok
[02:44] <heaths> bruenig: same prompts me for the cd
[02:44] <elaziz> jrib: i want to select an operation system to carry on my software load, what to offer? linux stuff or macosxtiger ?
[02:44] <adam> it's in usr/lib/ it won't let me delete
[02:44] <bruenig> heaths, what about sudo apt-get update
[02:44] <jrib> elaziz: I'm not sure what you mean
[02:45] <Vekemi> jrib: elaziz - "What is better for software, Linux or Mac OS X Tiger?"
[02:45] <elaziz> Vekemi : thank you :)
[02:45] <heaths> bruenig: that runs fine
[02:46] <bruenig> Vekemi, linux
[02:46] <jpena> bueno,
[02:46] <Vekemi> bruenig : I was translating elaziz's statement. Heh.
[02:46] <elaziz> Vekemi : i don want to deal with operation system, just want to do my work :) but XGL is wonderfull :)
[02:46] <bruenig> ah
[02:46] <Vekemi> elaziz : If you don't want to deal with the OS, you're better off with Mac OS X :|
[02:47] <elaziz> Vekemi : oh ok.
[02:47] <BiGdAdDy> should i go ubuntu cd or ubuntu dvd? install
[02:47] <bruenig> BiGdadDy, cd is fine.
[02:47] <BiGdAdDy> what is the differ really?
[02:47] <cablesm102> Bigdaddy, if you have a broadband connection, cd is fine.
[02:47] <Ketsuban> In trying to set up dual-monitor I get the message "Requested Entity already in use". This is odd because I've managed to get dual-monitor working perfectly with very little effort/exit
[02:47] <Ketsuban> Ack.
[02:47] <cablesm102> The point of the DVD is that it has many packges built into the disk
[02:47] <cablesm102> so you don't have to download them
[02:48] <bruenig> if you have dsl, might as well go with the cd because you can download other packages later via apt-get
[02:48] <heaths> bruenig: i wonder if it's because i chose OEM install
[02:48] <BiGdAdDy> oic
[02:48] <cablesm102> The default install is identical
[02:48] <BiGdAdDy> k thanks ppl
[02:49] <bruenig> heaths, I know there is a way to enable cd repository in synaptic but I wouldn't think that would force you to use it
[02:49] <bruenig> heaths, you could download the package from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <cablesm102> awkward silence
[02:50] <heaths> yeah just would e nice to have to do that everytime i wanted something;)
[02:50] <bruenig> always silent...
[02:50] <powerbook> I need some help - I installed mysql with apt-get but I didn't set a password anywhere, what is it? there is a password for some reason
[02:50] <bruenig> I guess unless you have beeps enabled
[02:51] <smax> whats a good site to deploy a tftp server ?
[02:51] <unics> password for the mysql server ?
[02:51] <elaziz> powerbook : look at my.ini file
[02:51] <vince790> almost bald from trying to install on this laptop :X
[02:51] <Vekemi> vince - installing isn't the pain.
[02:51] <heaths> myslql -u root prompts you to change it
[02:52] <powerbook> elaziz: where is that located? what folder?
[02:52] <Vekemi> Getting the drivers for everything and updating everything is the real pain :x
[02:52] <pwk> last question before i goto install
[02:52] <pwk> i got vista nd xp daul boot with vist'a boot loader
[02:52] <elaziz> powerbook : heaths sentence is correct
[02:52] <pwk> will installing ubnutu affect it ?
[02:52] <bruenig> pwk, it will install grub boot loader but that boot loader should allow you to pick from the three
[02:52] <bruenig> make sure you don't reformat those partitions
[02:52] <Homer> !grub
[02:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:53] <powerbook> bash: myslql: command not found
[02:53] <unics> try mysqladmin -u root password  'new password' to change it(create it)
[02:53] <heaths> there you go
[02:53] <Vekemi> powerbook : mysqpl -u root
[02:53] <unics> then mysql -u root -p
[02:53] <heaths> or spell mysql right;)
[02:53] <pwk> i just thgouht, can't i test linux in vmware in xp?
[02:53] <unics> to log in
[02:53] <powerbook> bash: myslql: command not found
[02:53] <krazykit> yes
[02:53] <Vekemi> No first l
[02:53] <powerbook> err
[02:53] <pwk> or vpc 2004?
[02:53] <heaths> i'm running ubuntu in vmware
[02:53] <powerbook> bash: mysql: command not found
[02:53] <Vekemi> < <
[02:53] <vince790> alright im out night all and ty for your intrest
[02:53] <pwk> ok
[02:53] <heaths> had no issues geting loaded
[02:54] <Vekemi> It probably didn't install correctly :|
[02:54] <pwk> cause then it'll tell me if i want it main os
[02:54] <powerbook> Vekemi what is the mysql package called?
[02:55] <silvertip257> hello all
[02:55] <pwk> should i use vpc 04 or vmware for ubuntu ?
[02:55] <Rasta> haha
[02:55] <Rasta> lilo its dead?
[02:55] <unics> powerbook try apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
[02:55] <heaths> hrm wonder if i could just mount the iso to get around this load cd thing
[02:55] <Renan_s2> pwk, vmware
[02:55] <silvertip257> hey flannel
[02:56] <bleaked> ok, i just updated, then ran a simple upgrade (dapper security updates).. dpkg updated my kernel and a few other packages.  because of the kernel upgrade, and the fact that i haven't rebooted all summer, i decided to do a quick reboot.  on boot, after the POST, i get a blank screen with the text, "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT".  er..so is this a grub error?  kernel?  other?  i've booted into the livecd, and mounted my root partition.  /boot/grub/me
[02:56] <bleaked> lled kernel listed.  i'm rather puzzled, any ideas?
[02:56] <powerbook> I guess it didnt install right... doing that now unics, thanks
[02:57] <pwk> anything specail i do in vmware ?
[02:57] <silvertip257> bleaked what type of font file do i need to install on a linux system?
[02:57] <Homer> I have having trouble imagining a dapper drake in real life
[02:57] <silvertip257> bleaked:  i cannot use .ttf or w/e i'm assuming
[02:58] <SeanTater> pwk: I recommend qemu
[02:58] <Rasta> someone knows if its possible to emulate IExplorer and photoshop in ubuntu without virtual machines like vmware?
[02:58] <ThinkingMan> anyone have a moment to help a guy out with what is probably a stupid question about the sudoers file?
[02:58] <brian98> thinkingman: Whats the prob
[02:58] <unics> rasta  try crossover
[02:58] <tritium> ThinkingMan: don't edit it.  Add users to the admin group instead.
[02:58] <bleaked> silvertip257: why are you asking me?
[02:58] <pwk> whats qemu
[02:58] <pwk> ?
[02:58] <The_Vox> anybody know if the AMD64 version of 6.10 will be BiArch?
[02:58] <SeanTater> pwk: qemu is free and in the repositories, the accelerator is free,  but not as in fredom, and can be acquired from the website
[02:58] <tritium> !qemu
[02:58] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:58] <silvertip257> bleaked:  i thought u were answering a question about fonts...no?
[02:59] <Rasta> unics, ok ill try it thanks man
[02:59] <SeanTater> pwk: it simulates a computer inside your computer
[02:59] <bleaked> silvertip257: but as far as i know, ttf works fine.  you're probably after the various font packages in the repositories.  and no i wasn't answering any font questions.
[02:59] <silvertip257> sorry bleaked, how do i install fonts, once i get them off another partition on my hd
[03:00] <pwk> Swweeetttt it lest u run winows in linux ?
[03:00] <ThinkingMan> brian98: I just picked up a hp laserjet 2605dn which requires a driver not in the ubuntu package tree, so I found a driver at http://hplip.sourceforge.net which gives me a .run file to run, when I try to sudo ./hplip-1.6.9.run I get
[03:00] <jack_> hi guys
[03:00] <ThinkingMan> sudo: ./hplip-1.6.9.run: command not found
[03:00] <silvertip257> sorry bleaked, how do i install fonts, once i get them off another partition on my hd
[03:00] <bleaked> silvertip257: i actually don't know..  and could care less right now, my system is currently broken, and so i don't have much time for this.  please check the forums and the ubuntu wiki, it's covered in both places in much detail.
[03:01] <ThinkingMan> So I'm assuming I need to edit the sudoers file using visudo to say "hey, let me run whatever command I want", it's just a question of how
[03:01] <jack_> do you like cheese
[03:01] <tritium> ThinkingMan: it's not already supported without the need for that driver?
[03:01] <tpm> sudo chmod +x hplip...
[03:01] <silvertip257> *sorry* bleaked
[03:01] <tritium> ThinkingMan: no, that's not your problem.  Most likely it's not exectuable, like tpm just pointed out.
[03:01] <jack_> by guys
[03:01] <smax> fuck.  ubuntu sucks... hard.   im switching to gentoo or debian.  sheesh.  fucking newbie os shit.  fuck this nigger.
[03:01] <ThinkingMan> k, worth a shot
[03:01] <knapper> Help. I wanted to get rid of xgl, so I removed it, but now I don't have a window manager. I'm in KDE
[03:01] <The_Vox> silvertip257: just copy them to ~/.fonts for a single user or stick them wherever the other ttf files in your /usr directory are
[03:01] <silvertip257> thank you The_Vox
[03:02] <silvertip257> i will try that
[03:02] <brian98> thinkingman: maybe need to set them to be executable
[03:02] <ThinkingMan> heeyy it appears to be working
[03:02] <brian98> !chmod
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <ThinkingMan> well, appeared
[03:02] <boris55> LTSP 5.0?
[03:02] <ThinkingMan> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: gcc (gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler)
[03:02] <ThinkingMan> I'm pretty sure gcc is there
[03:03] <brian98> it must be a source package..
[03:03] <tpm> thinkingman...sudo apt-get install build-essentials shoould do it
[03:03] <brian98> What he says ! ;)
[03:04] <brian98> except its build-essential I think
[03:04] <tritium> right, brian98
[03:04] <pwk> i'll stay with windows i think
[03:04] <ThinkingMan> yep, essential
[03:04] <tpm> I think brian98 is right
[03:04] <ThinkingMan> but thanks
[03:04] <EvanIsaac> I think I installed the driver for my W111T Netgear USB adapter, but it's not showing up in Networking
[03:05] <ThinkingMan> I'm supposing I should've checked linux driver compat before picking up this printer
[03:05] <derekjww> hello
[03:05] <brian98> Thinkingman: you should be able to get it working...
[03:05] <pwk> thxs everyone
[03:05] <tritium> ThinkingMan: are you sure it's not already supported?
[03:05] <pwk> ubnutu's not for me
[03:05] <pwk> too hard
[03:05] <EvanIsaac> i typed in ndis -l, and it says athfmwdl driver present, hardware present
[03:05] <derekjww> I am to ask  how to enable HAL
[03:05] <tritium> ThinkingMan: the standard Postscript driver at least should work.
[03:05] <EvanIsaac> but shouldn't that mean it's working?
[03:06] <brian98> pwk: Not to worry!
[03:06] <pwk> and not too many software as windows
[03:06] <ThinkingMan> tritium: standard...pstscript...driver?
[03:06] <pwk> i was close
[03:06] <tritium> ThinkingMan: did you go through the printer setup utility?
[03:06] <pwk> i ran 5.10 live cd before a little was ok
[03:06] <ThinkingMan> fwiw, the printer is shared from a windows box upstairs
[03:06] <ThinkingMan> tritium: yup
[03:06] <brian98> pwk: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <EvanIsaac> don't all come answer me at once now..
[03:07] <brian98> Sorry ,,,
[03:07] <derekjww> I am to ask  how to enable HAL
[03:07] <derekjww> ?
[03:07] <brian98> EvanIsaac!
[03:07] <brian98> What is the prob?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> derekjww: hal is enabled by defaulkt
[03:07] <gnomefreak> -k
[03:07] <EvanIsaac> ok
[03:07] <derekjww> ok
[03:07] <EvanIsaac> i'm very new to ubuntu
[03:08] <brian98> no worries!
[03:08] <EvanIsaac> and i'm trying to get my W111T Netgear USB adapter to work
[03:08] <tritium> ThinkingMan: there is a Color Laserjet 2605 regular and postscript printer driver already
[03:08] <brian98> ok
[03:08] <silvertip257> The_Vox, where do i get to that directory you're talking about?
[03:08] <czer323_> !mirrors
[03:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:08] <EvanIsaac> i tried installing the drivers using the howto on the site but i don't think that worked
[03:08] <tpm> evan have you installed network-manager?
[03:09] <Red-Sox> EvanIsaac: What's the problem?
[03:09] <ThinkingMan> tritium: maybe I'm missing something in the printer installation process, I'm going through system->administration->printing...
[03:09] <EvanIsaac> eh?
[03:09] <boris55> beta released today, correct?
[03:09] <EvanIsaac> network manager? what?
[03:09] <tritium> ThinkingMan: no, that's correct
[03:09] <btdown> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[03:09] <EvanIsaac> i just went to networking to check if wlan0 was there like the howto said it should be but it wasn't there
[03:09] <brian98> evanisaac: go to a shell type sudo iwconfig
[03:10] <EvanIsaac> no wireless extensions
[03:10] <tpm> System->Administration->Synaptic...search for network-manager...assuming you have a wired connection.
[03:10] <ledfloyd> hi all, i've a problem with samba and ldap...when i run # net getlocalsid i had this error:
[03:10] <ledfloyd> [2006/09/28 17:55:34, 0]  lib/smbldap.c:smb_ldap_start_tls(546)
[03:10] <ledfloyd> Failed to issue the StartTLS instruction: Connect error
[03:10] <ThinkingMan> going through new printer -> setting up network printer using windows (smb), supplying the hostname and printer share, under my driver selection closest thing I have is hp color laserjet 2600
[03:10] <ThinkingMan> I have the 2605dn
[03:10] <ledfloyd> someone can help me?
[03:11] <EvanIsaac> ok i'm downloading network-manager
[03:11] <silvertip257> will anyone help me with the process of installing fonts?
[03:11] <ledfloyd> my o.s. is ubuntu server 6.06
[03:11] <boris55> what's up with LTSP 5.0 in Eft?  Is this the server based code?
[03:12] <tritium> EvanIsaac: you might also want network-manager-gnome
[03:12] <tpm> Evan, search for wpasupplicant in case you want to use wpa
[03:12] <brian98> evanisaac: ifconfig
[03:12] <EvanIsaac> wpa?
[03:12] <EvanIsaac> what's wpa :S
[03:12] <brian98> evanisaac: what cards do you have?
[03:12] <crimsun> wpasupplicant is in the default seeds.
[03:12] <EvanIsaac> it's a netgear W111T
[03:12] <wwwdotcom> Hello, downloading ubuntu now
[03:12] <brian98> what is listed when you type ifconfig
[03:12] <wwwdotcom> ready to enter the linux world
[03:12] <EvanIsaac> if you go to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List it's number 19 under N
[03:12] <boris55> you'll love linux and ubuntu...
[03:13] <brian98> what is listed when you type ifconfig
[03:13] <mikeo1> anyone know how to run a server behind a NAT with no port forwarding?
[03:13] <brian98> :)
[03:13] <EvanIsaac> eth0
[03:13] <EvanIsaac> and lo
[03:13] <EvanIsaac> and stuff
[03:13] <crimsun> sure, use a tcp relay
[03:13] <ledfloyd> ok bye
[03:13] <mikeo1> how do i do that
[03:13] <EvanIsaac> eth0, then a bunch of stats
[03:13] <tritium> ThinkingMan: you don't see 2605 under Manufacturer: HP?
[03:13] <EvanIsaac> and lo, with a bunch of stats
[03:13] <ThinkingMan> tritium: nope...
[03:13] <EvanIsaac> i have a wired connection working on the laptop already
[03:13] <mikeo1> i have access to a server that isnt behind a nat...
[03:13] <silvertip257> will *anyone* help me with installing fonts ???
[03:14] <brian98> evanisaac: but no wlan0
[03:14] <tritium> ThinkingMan: "Color Laserjet 2605"
[03:14] <mikeo1> so is there a way i could connect to that, and then have connections on that forwarded to this
[03:14] <EvanIsaac> no wlan0
[03:14] <EvanIsaac> :(
[03:14] <ThinkingMan> running ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[03:14] <mikeo1> because this connection is insanely fast
[03:14] <tritium> ThinkingMan: and the next one, "Color Laserjet 2605 Postscript (recommended)"
[03:14] <lostinc> I am trying to get FCEU to play a old NES ROM and I keep getting this error "Initializing sound...Error opening a sound device." anyone know how to fix it?
[03:15] <eXcentra> silvertip257, put it into /home/yourusername/.fonts
[03:15] <ThinkingMan> tritium: Only thing I see is "Color Laserjet 2600n"
[03:15] <brian98> evanisaac: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[03:15] <silvertip257> eXcentra, i'd like it to be in global location (for all users)
[03:15] <ThinkingMan> absolutely nothing as 2605, what would I even update to update the list of printer drivers?
[03:15] <tpm> evan, I commented out all lines in /etc/network/interfaces except the 2 for lo and network-manager brings up my wireless connection and asks for my key (wpa is a form of security)
[03:15] <brian98> evanisaac: Then have a look @ http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29
[03:16] <matthew_w> Is there any known error with java that will cause constant java.lang.nullpointerexception errors under Ubuntu?
[03:16] <EvanIsaac> i got 2 errors
[03:16] <eXcentra> silvertip257, 'sudo cp' your font into /usr/share/fonts
[03:16] <silvertip257> thank you very much eXcentra
[03:16] <EvanIsaac> i already looked at that i'm pretty sure
[03:16] <ThinkingMan> tritium: sorry, that last comment I made was for you
[03:16] <tpm> evan what are the errors
[03:16] <EvanIsaac> could not get lock /vart/lib/dpkg/lock open
[03:16] <EvanIsaac> and unable to lock the administration directory, is another process using it?
[03:16] <brian98> means you have a window open with synaptic
[03:17] <tpm> do you have synaptic open?
[03:17] <tpm> ...what brian said.
[03:17] <frak__> why do we need swap
[03:17] <tritium> ThinkingMan: sorry, perhaps this .ppd is not in dapper
[03:17] <ThinkingMan> is edgy "live" yet?
[03:17] <EvanIsaac> ok it's installing the gnome thing
[03:18] <brian98> !schedule
[03:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:18] <EvanIsaac> i think it's done
[03:18] <brian98> ok
[03:18] <tritium> ThinkingMan: no, just in beta
[03:18] <ThinkingMan> oh ok
[03:18] <ThinkingMan> is there any way to get that .ppd into dapper (or at least my version)
[03:18] <brian98> evanisaac: so how have you installed the driver?
[03:18] <EvanIsaac> yes
[03:18] <tritium> ThinkingMan: only by hand
[03:18] <frak__> why do we need swap?
[03:18] <ThinkingMan> and by that, which I'm sure sounded convoluded, I mean, how can I install the thing by han...
[03:19] <EvanIsaac> i did the ndiswrapperthing
[03:19] <ThinkingMan> yes that
[03:19] <brian98> ok
[03:19] <eXcentra> frak__, i guess it's like windows' page file
[03:19] <ThinkingMan> tritium: so installing the .ppd by hand inolves....?
[03:19] <EvanIsaac> but i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper to do it
[03:19] <silvertip257> eXcentra, i'm really new and lmao, can't figure out how 2 'sudo cp'
[03:19] <frak__> ok, somebody told me it was for ram or something
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> silvertip257, in a terminal
[03:20] <silvertip257> ok
[03:20] <silvertip257> well
[03:20] <frak__> to conserve it
[03:20] <tritium> ThinkingMan: I don't believe so, but I've not done it before.  Let me see if I can find out...
[03:20] <brian98> evanisaac: can you type sudo modprobe -l ndiswrapper
[03:20] <ThinkingMan> tritium: thanks a ton
[03:20] <ThinkingMan> cause things aren't going well with the "self-installer" from hplip either
[03:21] <jack_> anybody on ppc arch? :)
[03:21] <padan> anyone know of an xbox emu ?
[03:21] <EvanIsaac> my output was /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[03:21] <tritium> ThinkingMan: when you go to choose the Manufacturer, isn't there a "Install Driver" button at the bottom right?
[03:21] <f4t4l`> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267597
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> padan, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:22] <ThinkingMan> tritium: yes...
[03:22] <tritium> ThinkingMan: there you go!  Just supply it the .ppd file there :)
[03:22] <brian98> Evanisaac: can you type sudo lsmod | grep acx
[03:22] <eXcentra> silvertip257, okay, time for some lessons. :) slash (/) means root. when you see "/usr/share/fonts" it means to go to the root directory and then to usr, share, etc.
[03:22] <ThinkingMan> tritium: sounds easy enough...where do I find said .ppd file?
[03:22] <EvanIsaac> ok it didn't do anything it looks like
[03:22] <silvertip257> yes eXcentra
[03:23] <silvertip257> now how about the sudo cp eXcentra?
[03:23] <eXcentra> silvertip257, to copy files to folders other than your home folder, you need root access, so you do "sudo cp blah blah"
[03:23] <eXcentra> silvertip257, for the command you use "sudo cp locationoffont /usr/share/fonts"
[03:23] <silvertip257> woah that's over my head eXcentra
[03:23] <silvertip257> oh ok eXcentra i think i undrstand that
[03:23] <EvanIsaac> i put that in
[03:24] <EvanIsaac> and it didn't give me any response
[03:24] <brian98> evanisaac: what did ndiswrapper do when you installed the windows driver
[03:24] <eXcentra> silvertip257, lol. okay so your location is.. let's say if you saved it to your Desktop. you can do /home/username/Desktop
[03:24] <eXcentra> silvertip257, or you can do ~/Desktop. ~ is short for /home/yourusername
[03:24] <EvanIsaac> what do you mean
[03:24] <brian98> did it install?
[03:24] <jack_> i am what i am bc of who we all are
[03:24] <mikeo1> how long does it take to upgrade 1000 packages?
[03:24] <tritium> ThinkingMan: it should be either on the CD, or part of the installer
[03:24] <SpudDogg> kitche, are you here?
[03:24] <silvertip257> well crap i mad a spec folder for stuff, now i've gotta figureout what that would be eXcentra lol
[03:25] <brian98> evanisaac: did you sudo ndiswrapper -i /location_of_your_wireless_driver/your_driver.inf
[03:25] <eXcentra> silvertip257, so, for example, you do "sudo cp ~/Desktop/font.ttf /usr/share/fonts"
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> mikeo1, depends on how many packages are getting upgraded
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> they aren't ALL updated
[03:25] <EvanIsaac> yes
[03:25] <mikeo1> one thousand
[03:25] <EvanIsaac> i did
[03:25] <silvertip257> ok lemme catch up eXcentra
[03:25] <jack_> wireless? rotflmao
[03:25] <mikeo1> over a thousand actually
[03:25] <donna> Is there a way for me to find out my root password?
[03:25] <mikeo1> upgrading to edgy...
[03:25] <tritium> !rootsudo
[03:25] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:25] <jack_> say its rt73 chipset
[03:25] <tpm> evan, what does lsusb show?
[03:26] <jack_> tritium nuh-uh
[03:26] <jack_> really?
[03:26] <mikeo1> actually 1216 packages to be exact
[03:26] <Red-Sox> Just did "Sudo apt-get install tpconfig" and now I don't know what to do after that, any suggestions?
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> mikeo1, well i'm updating too and its been taking me about an hour
[03:26] <mikeo1> will that take a long time?
[03:26] <ThinkingMan> tritium: (and pardon me if this is getting annoying and newbish), are .ppd files platform independent, because I'm 99% sure hp does not make a linux driver for this printer
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> but i'm on a really bad connection
[03:26] <hondje> donna: Yes, with a passwd cracker. There is no root passwd by default, though...Ubuntu uses sudo.
[03:26] <EvanIsaac> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1385:4251
[03:26] <mikeo1> like over an hour?
[03:26] <Flannel> hondje, donna, no.  there is *no* root password, at all.
[03:26] <tpm> donna root is disabled by default. you can sudo passwd root to enable/set root's password
[03:26] <tritium> ThinkingMan: they are
[03:26] <ThinkingMan> oooh, that makes sense then
[03:27] <EvanIsaac> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[03:27] <cpk2> mikeo1: it all depends, some packages can just be a couple kB while others can be quite large
[03:27] <Red-Sox> I guess a better way of asking this is, anyway use tpconfig?
[03:27] <brian98> evanisaac: try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:27] <tritium> donna: better to learn how to use sudo, though
[03:27] <hondje> Flannel: 'by default', and if she does have one it's quite possible to find it :)
[03:27] <ThinkingMan> scanning the install disc now for the .ppd file
[03:27] <mikeo1> 850mb or so of packages, all are downloaded already
[03:27] <mikeo1> juts the install time
[03:27] <brian98> evanisaac: are you on the ubuntu machine now?
[03:27] <mikeo1> and it isnt giving me a progress bar
[03:27] <Flannel> hondje: right, but if she set one, she wouldn't be asking what it was.
[03:27] <tpm> evan it doesn't sound like the driver is installed
[03:27] <tritium> ThinkingMan: also, a google search or a search on linuxprinting.org may turn one up too
[03:27] <jack_> tritium that did not work at all
[03:27] <tritium> jack_: what?
[03:27] <jack_> (!rootsudo)
[03:27] <Flannel> mikeo1: there's less than 700MB to download, guarenteed.
[03:27] <mikeo1> no there isnt
[03:27] <brian98> tpm: sounds like
[03:27] <donna> Yesss thank you guys.
[03:27] <hondje> I wouldn't assume that. I've lost root passwds before :-)
[03:28] <mikeo1> was like 850mb or so
[03:28] <mikeo1> to download
[03:28] <EvanIsaac> i'm on the ubuntu machine right now but i'm talking to you on another computer
[03:28] <brian98> ok
[03:28] <tritium> jack_: I didn't tell you to try that.  I was invoking ubotu.
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> mikeo1, the disk image is 700Mb
[03:28] <mikeo1> yeah but did it through apt...
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> not all packages are getting upgraded
[03:28] <Red-Sox> Short paste, sorry motoxer4eva996
[03:28] <EvanIsaac> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:28] <Red-Sox> oh my bad
[03:28] <Flannel> mikeo1: only if you've installed additional software, the default edgy install takes 700mb on a CD, so there's at max 700mb for default installs
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> its like a download
[03:28] <jack_> oh i thought it was to get root passwd
[03:28] <ThinkingMan> tritium: yeah no luck on the CD, I'll try to see if I can find one floating around the tubes anywhere, thanks a ton for all the hlep
[03:28] <ThinkingMan> help even
[03:28] <tritium> ThinkingMan: sure :)
[03:28] <Red-Sox> jonny@jonny-laptop:~$ tpconfig
[03:28] <Red-Sox> Could not open PS/2 Port [/dev/psaux] .jonny@jonny-laptop:~$
[03:28] <Red-Sox> That's it, any ideas?
[03:29] <tritium> ThinkingMan: it's likely part of the installer.
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> the size doesn't increase because its done through terminal
[03:29] <mikeo1>  Cannot remove /usr/X11R6/bin directory
[03:29] <silvertip257> eXcentra, the terminal says:  cp: target `/user/share/fonts' is not a directory
[03:29] <brian98> evanisaac: This is the best walkthrough for ndiswrapper imho: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29
[03:29] <eXcentra> silvertip257, "usr". remove the e :p
[03:29] <silvertip257> eXcentra what e ?
[03:29] <EvanIsaac> i'm pretty sure i followed that exactly
[03:29] <eXcentra> silvertip257, well, it says /user/share/fonts rather than /usr/share/fonts
[03:30] <mikeo1> what is /usr/X11R6 used for?
[03:30] <foo> hm, what FTP client do you guys like?
[03:30] <mikeo1> and how do i make a symbolic link to it if there is stuff in it
[03:30] <silvertip257> eXcentra, lmao i can't believe i did that hahaha laugh w/ me
[03:30] <brian98> tpm: it's a usb device, that add's another layer of issues?
[03:30] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever installed the serialmonkey ralink driver in ubuntu?
[03:30] <eXcentra> silvertip257, haha :P
[03:30] <hondje> mikeo1: For common files for the X server on that compute. R6 means it hasn't been upgraded for awhile, though
[03:30] <silvertip257> thank you eXcentra
[03:30] <hondje> doh, not R6 :)
[03:30] <eXcentra> foo, i just use gFTP; it does the job for me :)
[03:30] <mikeo1> hmmm
[03:31] <hondje> ln -s is for sym links
[03:31] <mikeo1> well how do i upgrade it?
[03:31] <eXcentra> silvertip257, hope it works out :)
[03:31] <mikeo1> should i just delete the folder?
[03:31] <foo> eXcentra: sweet, thanks
[03:31] <mikeo1> cause the package gave me an error
[03:31] <foo> lftp isn't working for some reason
[03:31] <silvertip257> me 2 eXcentra
[03:31] <tpm> evan, try: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces ... comment out all lines EXCEPT: auto lo AND iface lo inet loopback. You won't have network acces until you login...
[03:31] <hondje> mikeo1: I lied, it's current :-) ln -s does sym links
[03:31] <mikeo1> #flood for my error message?
[03:31] <Flannel> !paste
[03:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:32] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  you leaving ?
[03:32] <EvanIsaac> hold on
[03:32] <Red-Sox> How do I make my synaptics pointing device scroll??
[03:32] <brian98> evanisaac: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:32] <EvanIsaac> in gedit the lastone has wlan0 listed
[03:32] <eXcentra> eXcentra, no, i'll be staying here for a bit.
[03:32] <tritium> ThinkingMan: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-Color_LaserJet_2605
[03:32] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25126/
[03:33] <hondje> brian98: If you type out the first part of their nick and hit tab, most clients will finish spelling it for you :)
[03:33] <mikeo1> what should i do about this
[03:33] <eXcentra> silvertip257, err, no, i'll be staying here for a bit..
[03:33] <EvanIsaac> what do you mean comment out?
[03:33] <silvertip257> good eXcentra
[03:33] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25126/
[03:33] <tpm> sorry, put a # in front of it.
[03:33] <david___> is there ubuntu
[03:33] <Buglouse> ~!THANKYOU FOR SUPPORTING UBUNTU. AND THANKS TO THE DEVELOPERS!~ ~LOVE IT ALL~
[03:33] <brian98> hondje, ;)
[03:33] <david___> is there ubuntu  for 686?
[03:34] <tritium> hi adam
[03:34] <EvanIsaac> what do you mean by comment out?
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> david___, yes
[03:34] <tritium> adam: Nice to see another NM person :)
[03:34] <EvanIsaac> delete?
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> its just Ubuntu for PC
[03:34] <eurytus> there's a NEW mexico?
[03:34] <david___> i can only find it for 386
[03:34] <ThinkingMan> tritium: thanks so much, here goes nothin
[03:34] <tritium> eurytus: very funny
[03:34] <cheeseer> EvanIsaac, its means put a # in front of the line
[03:34] <tpm> Evan, to comment out put a # in front (1st character) of the line
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> david___, i think its the some no?
[03:34] <silvertip257> eXcentra, it's having probs w/ the filename
[03:35] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25126/
[03:35] <david___> ok, just wondering
[03:35] <eXcentra> silvertip257, what's the error message?
[03:35] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  i'll paste it in a sec
[03:35] <mikeburr> anyone know if edgy beta supports i965 chipset?
[03:35] <tpm> Evan, iface eth1 inet dhcp ... becomes ... #iface eth1 inet dhcp
[03:35] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever installed the serialmonkey ralink driver in ubuntu?
[03:35] <brian98> hondje, thanks for that... should have tried that :)
[03:35] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  cp: cannot stat `/home/username/firefox_downloads/ANGRC___.TTF': No such file or directory
[03:35] <brian98> too obvious
[03:36] <EvanIsaac> ok i did the networking restart thing
[03:36] <hondje> brian98: oui oui ;-)
[03:36] <sbalneav> mikeo1: What are you upgrading from, and to?
[03:36] <david___> The times i boot into windows are becoming less and less, my doesn't even use windows anymore cause ubuntu boots faster, but when i do, it seems like something happens to my ntfs partition to make it have to go into recovery mode, anybody havee anyideas?
[03:36] <brian98> EvanIsaac, iwconfig
[03:36] <mikeo1> from dapper to edgy
[03:36] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  the file name was shortened w/ the ____ underscores, but i copied th filename from the file attributes
[03:36] <EvanIsaac> no wireless extensions
[03:36] <mikeo1> getting that error on that package
[03:36] <brian98> :(
[03:36] <mikeo1> should i just delete the folder?
[03:37] <brian98> EvanIsaac, I would start again with the driver install process
[03:37] <tpm> EvanIsaac: sudo apt-get install wireless-tools
[03:37] <eXcentra> silvertip257, try renaming the file to something else :P
[03:37] <sbalneav> mikeo1: I would rename the folder.
[03:37] <ThinkingMan> tritium: well, everything appears to be working, but now when I try to print I get Printing: Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds... in the status
[03:37] <bleaked> i'm having a rather serious problem.. after a dapper security update (which included a kernel update) and a reboot, after the POST the following text/error is displayed: "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT".  is this a grub error?  or?  and if so, suggestions for a fix?
[03:37] <silvertip257> eXcentra:: awww more renaming & typing !
[03:37] <mikeo1> copied it and renamed it
[03:37] <EvanIsaac> ack my battery died
[03:37] <mikeo1> now going to delete
[03:37] <sbalneav> mikeo1: And file a bug.
[03:37] <EvanIsaac> let me get my charger
[03:37] <sbalneav> Why delete?
[03:37] <david___> one of the times i have found i need windows is to burn dvds are there any programs for linux that strip cp from the movies?
[03:38] <david___> When i buy a new dvd i like to back them up\
[03:38] <sbalneav> mikeo1: Easy, just go the launchpad.net.
[03:38] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  still doesnt work, I've tried it w/ another font that does not have a messed up filename
[03:38] <total_meltdown> Hey, does anyone have a suggestion for the smallest possible installation of Linux? Like, seriously just the Kernel, Bash, and the core utilities like ls and rm?
[03:38] <tpm> hondje: nice [TAB]  tip!
[03:39] <hondje> :-)
[03:39] <mikeo1> hmmm
[03:39] <mikeo1> now im getting a ton of other errors
[03:39] <chode> hi
[03:39] <total_meltdown> Hi
[03:39] <chode> some thing is terrably wrong with ubuntu.
[03:39] <silvertip257> u talkin 2 me tpm?
[03:39] <EvanIsaac> ok ubuntu is booting up again
[03:39] <chode> anyway...
[03:39] <silvertip257> nah nvm tpm
[03:39] <silvertip257> sorry tpm
[03:39] <elkbuntu> total_meltdown, google for linux on a floppy
[03:39] <rendi> good morning how to uncompress this file 09-04-2006-0656.gz
[03:39] <tpm> silvertip257: no prob.
[03:40] <mikeo1> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:40] <mikeo1>  /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.0.22ubuntu10_amd64.deb
[03:40] <mikeo1> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:40] <rendi> can help me sir ?
[03:40] <chode> i Xed out all terminals,  and i still get /dev/ttyS0  still in use.  how can this be technically feasable after killing the PID as well?  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tUgDio86.html
[03:40] <Fjodor> rendi: gunzip 09-04-2006-0656.gz
[03:40] <mikeo1> thats what i get after renaming X11R6
[03:40] <rendi> Thanks so much Fjodor
[03:40] <chode> never, have i encounterd such an idiosyncrasy on gentoo or slackware.
[03:40] <eXcentra> silvertip257, are you typing case-sensitively? is it the right filename/location? and as tpm mentioned, you can use the tab button when typing a file name in terminal to automatically complete it for you.
[03:40] <total_meltdown> elkbuntu: tomsrtbt?
[03:40] <Fjodor> rendi: Np
[03:40] <elkbuntu> total_meltdown, there are others, but yes, along those lines
[03:40] <ThinkingMan> tritium: you there bud?
[03:41] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  oh i didnt know that ok i'll try it right now
[03:41] <Asymmetry> Does anyone know why SATA I drives are shown before SATA II drives? I've got two SATA IIs, and a SATA I, in that order, and it shows the SATAI as sda, and the other two as sdb and sdc. When I go to install Ubuntu, everything's screwed up. GRUB reads the wrong partitions, and all that fun stuff. I try and modify GRUB so that it works, but I can't get it right.
[03:41] <tritium> ThinkingMan: yep
[03:41] <EvanIsaac> ok ubuntu is booted again
[03:41] <chode> i Xed out all terminals,  and i still get /dev/ttyS0  still in use when running minicom.  how can this be technically feasable after killing the PID as well?  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tUgDio86.html   is anyone in here still running minicom or are you all using Windows as a crutch
[03:42] <total_meltdown> elkbuntu: I found LOAF (ecks.org) but the nameserver is configured to point to 127.0.0.1 - I was really confused when www.ecks.org brought me to my local site
[03:42] <ThinkingMan> not sure if you saw what happened, I think everything is going well but now when I try to print I get an error: ubuntu Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds...
[03:42] <sbalneav> chode: That shows that minicom didn't die.
[03:42] <tpm> EvanIsaac: in the upper right corner is the nm-applet. If you left click it it should have an option for wireless network...
[03:42] <mikeo1> no combination is working
[03:42] <sbalneav> chode: kill -9 <pid>
[03:42] <mikeo1> no matter what i do it errors
[03:43] <mikeo1> wtf
[03:43] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  now the terminal gives me the > prompt
[03:43] <eXcentra> silvertip257, ?
[03:43] <elkbuntu> total_meltdown, i was thinking along the lines of: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/baslinux/
[03:43] <EvanIsaac> upper right?
[03:43] <silvertip257> yes eXcentra ... idk what 2 do
[03:43] <EvanIsaac> i see a power symbol
[03:43] <ThinkingMan> what even IS a CIFS host
[03:43] <eXcentra> silvertip257, eh, dunno what that is. try closing and opening a new terminal..
[03:43] <EvanIsaac> and when i tried to apt get the wireless tools it said wireless-tools is already the newest version
[03:43] <tritium> ThinkingMan: is the Windows machine the printer is hooked up to setup to share it?
[03:43] <silvertip257> ok
[03:43] <tpm> EvanIsaac: type nm-applet in a console
[03:43] <ThinkingMan> tritium: yup
[03:44] <sbalneav> mikeo1: What steps exactly did you take to perform the upgrade?
[03:44] <urthwhyte> hello
[03:44] <mikeo1> whats on the guide
[03:44] <EvanIsaac> ok i typed it
[03:44] <mikeo1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[03:44] <total_meltdown> elkbuntu: http://www.superant.com/smalllinux is what I'm looking at
[03:44] <adam> i heard linux now supports MTP protocol. how do I get it working? My Zen Vision: M isn't recognized
[03:44] <tritium> ThinkingMan: not sure then.  Some sort of networking issue, or SMB problem.
[03:44] <silvertip257> eXcentra: now it says permission denied
[03:44] <total_meltdown> 2-3 MB RAM requirement is about right
[03:44] <SpudDogg> kitche, are you here?!
[03:44] <EvanIsaac> there's still a power symbol in the upper left
[03:44] <EvanIsaac> upper right i mean
[03:44] <eXcentra> silvertip257, did you do sudo?
[03:45] <tritium> ThinkingMan: I need to run, buddy.  Good luck.
[03:45] <ThinkingMan> tritium: thanks so much for everything man
[03:45] <mikeo1> how do i downgrade from this point
[03:45] <ThinkingMan> I'll ook into networking/smb issues asap
[03:45] <silvertip257> eXcentra thank you for being patient, i'm learning every step of the way
[03:45] <tpm> EvanIsaac:  it should have a put 2 computers in the upper right beside the power...speaker icons?
[03:45] <sbalneav> mikeo1: Well, I'd say there's an upgrade bug in the x11-common package.
[03:45] <eXcentra> silvertip257, no prob. ;)
[03:45] <mikeo1> while can i downgrade so when i reboot my system doesnt die
[03:45] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  i 'm gonna look 2 see if it copied it
[03:46] <elkbuntu> total_meltdown, never used it.. messed around with basiclinux once for the kicks.. it is very basic.
[03:46] <EvanIsaac>  there's 3 icons of monitors
[03:46] <adam> help with MTP protocol plz!! private chat
[03:46] <sbalneav> mikeo1: You followed the part of the guide that said you should have backups, right?
[03:46] <silvertip257> eXcentra:  SUCCESS!, now to see if OOff recogs it
[03:46] <deathz0r> how can i install bitchx on ubuntu?
[03:46] <mikeo1> backups of what
[03:46] <deathz0r> its not in synaptic
[03:46] <mikeo1> this computer has mission critical data on it
[03:46] <deathz0r> !info bitchx
[03:46] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB
[03:47] <sbalneav> mikeo1: The part of the guide right at the top that says: "Do not upgrade to Edgy on your primary workstation - At least, please backup important data!"
[03:47] <deathz0r> wtf i have dapper..
[03:47] <tpm> EvanIsaac: click any one of them....
[03:47] <mikeo1> while if beryl worked on dapper i wouldnt have this problem
[03:47] <mikeo1> and aiglx
[03:47] <EvanIsaac> ok i fif
[03:47] <EvanIsaac> i did
[03:48] <Squee> How do I set up multiple loopack interfaces?
[03:48] <EvanIsaac> should i uncomment that stuff that brian98 toldme to comment?
[03:48] <EvanIsaac> btw
[03:48] <Squee> using /etc/network/interfaces
[03:48] <laervian> hi everyone
[03:48] <boris55> going to download eft this weekend. try it on my 933 mhz machine.
[03:48] <mikeo1> fuck it time to wipe this ubuntu trash and install sabayon
[03:48] <laervian> any bioinformatic expert around?
[03:48] <tpm> EvanIsaac: does it have "Wireless Networking" as an option?
[03:48] <sbalneav> Sabayon?
[03:48] <mikeo1> its 100x better
[03:48] <chode> fuck
[03:48] <mikeo1> look it up
[03:48] <EvanIsaac> no
[03:48] <rredd4> !language
[03:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:48] <sbalneav> It's a lockdown editor?
[03:48] <mikeo1> works with aiglx, beryl, and nvidia beta drivers out of the box
[03:48] <adam> !mtp
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <chode> fuck nigger
[03:49] <brian98> ops
[03:49] <elkbuntu> !ops
[03:49] <mikeo1> sabayon live cd
[03:49] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:49] <adam> !music transfer protocol
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music transfer protocol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: ?
[03:49] <EvanIsaac> so should i uncomment that stuff tpm?
[03:49] <nalioth> Amaranth: i got it
[03:49] <mikeo1> sucks that i customized this one so much
[03:49] <mikeo1> got my mouse working and everything
[03:49] <Squee> How do I set up multiple Loopback interfaces?
[03:49] <david___> can someone please help me with dvd rip?
[03:49] <brian98> EvanIsaac, tpm, I would say go ahead
[03:49] <mikeo1> fuck how do i downgrade
[03:49] <sbalneav> mikeo1: Simple.
[03:49] <david___> or point merto a place that can?
[03:50] <brian98> Some people
[03:50] <mikeo1> how?
[03:50] <laervian> any bioinformatics guy?
[03:50] <mikeo1> just change sources.list back?
[03:50] <Amaranth> mikeo1: There are at least two ops active in the channel and you're swearing....
[03:50] <sbalneav> fix up your /etc/apt/sources.list, change edgy back to dapper, and dist-upgrade.
[03:50] <Amaranth> mikeo1: To downgrade you put the dapper CD in your drive, format, and wait for it to finish installing.
[03:50] <Amaranth> sbalneav: That doesn't downgrade.
[03:50] <mikeo1> lol thats not me
[03:51] <mikeo1> thats chode
[03:51] <Amaranth> mikeo1: <mikeo1> fuck how do i downgrade
[03:51] <cpk2> hehe
 fuck nigger
[03:51] <sproingie> take it to pm
[03:51] <imbrandon> Amaranth, and please dont repeat it heh
[03:51] <Amaranth> mikeo1: At least let it scroll off the screen before you deny it.
[03:51] <Amaranth> mikeo1: Cut it out.
[03:51] <elkbuntu> mikeo1, he's also banned now.. it can be a similar situation for you if you continue
[03:52] <mikeo1> oh ok
[03:52] <imbrandon> heya elky
[03:52] <Amaranth> mikeo1: Once again, to downgrade you have to format and reinstall.
[03:52] <elkbuntu> hi imbrandon :)
[03:52] <mdz> mikeo1: there is no safe way to downgrade
[03:52] <mikeo1> while i guess ill try to downgrade and if it fails ill reinstall
[03:52] <Amaranth> mikeo1: Rather that go through that hassle, why not join #ubuntu+1 and see if we can get edgy working for you?
[03:52] <silvertip257> eXcentra looks like it works, just gotta test it w/ OO
[03:52] <mikeo1> ok
[03:52] <bimberi> whoa, all the celebs are on atm - it'll be Bill Clinton next :)
[03:53] <elkbuntu> i believe he's judigng the need to downgrade on the fact he has 3rd party alpha software known as beryl installed ;)
[03:53] <Amaranth> mikeo1: dist-upgrade will not downgrade you, you have to manually tell it to fetch old versions of packages
[03:53] <brian98> :-)
[03:53] <ajmitch> bimberi: celebrities? yes, I'm here.. :)
[03:53] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: Haha, that's my repo. :)
[03:53] <bimberi> wow!  and ajmitch too! ;)
[03:53] <mikeo1> is there a guide somewhere for failed upgrades?
[03:53] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, then could you maybe discern if im correct and take him into -xgl?
[03:54] <bleaked> mikeo1: no, but what's your problem.. i just had a failed upgrade myself a moment ago..
[03:54] <briguyd_> i tried to get banshee to scan my 63,000+ song samba'd music collection: bad idea
[03:54] <rredd4> is there a m4v codec available?  trying to open a itunes tv show in ubuntu
[03:54] <briguyd_> its been running for 24 hours, the laptop is unusable, and its 100% cpu load
[03:54] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, from what ive noticed, 3rd party repos are causing upgrade failures anyway
[03:54] <silvertip257> eXcentra are you there?
[03:54] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: heh, mine shouldn't
[03:54] <eXcentra> silvertip257, yo
[03:55] <bleaked> briguyd: what, scanning so many files over the network, or using banshee? :D
[03:55] <EvanIsaac> ok
[03:55] <Hyperion|Sleep> bah, is there seriously no way to install ubantu from a command line?
[03:55] <EvanIsaac> i did the network restart thing again
[03:55] <EvanIsaac> with everything uncommented
[03:55] <silvertip257> ok eXcentra, i was wondering if you would help me learn how to install things such as java & adobe, etc
[03:55] <bleaked> briguyd: and also, after about an hour, any sane person would have canceled the operation, or forced a reboot.
[03:55] <EvanIsaac> and is said failed to bring up wlan0 among other things
[03:55] <briguyd_> bleaked, i mounted a remote samba drive, and scanned it using banshee
[03:55] <ajmitch> Amaranth: no, yours probably cause other issues, due to being bleeding edge
[03:55] <eXcentra> silvertip257, well, the easiest would be to use automatix
[03:55] <eXcentra> !automatix
[03:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:55] <Amaranth> ajmitch: Indeed.
[03:56] <Amaranth> ajmitch: Getting cut and all that.
[03:56] <silvertip257> eXcentra ok how do i do that =) ?
[03:56] <briguyd_> bleaked, its an old (8 year old0 laptop, and a very large collection
[03:56] <EvanIsaac>  tpm?brian98? you guys there?
[03:56] <Squee> Is it possible to have multiple Loopback interfaces through /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:56] <brian98> EvanIsaac, I've been there, I would go through the install again step by step.
[03:57] <brian98> EvanIsaac, I know it sounds stupid but it's poss you missed something and if you did .......
[03:57] <eXcentra> !automatix > silvertip257
[03:57] <EvanIsaac> so it wouldn't screw it up to do it a second time?
[03:57] <brian98> Not at all..
[03:57] <bleaked> briguyd, still 24 hours is far too long.. i promise you it's frozen or timed out..  you're wasting your time.
[03:57] <eXcentra> silvertip257, go to the site and go to "Install" at the left.
[03:57] <brian98> EvanIsaac, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29
[03:57] <silvertip257> eXcentra automatix @ the terminal ?
[03:57] <brian98> Is the best resource for a step by step
[03:58] <eXcentra> silvertip257, you have to install it. it's a 3rd party program.
[03:58] <elkbuntu> eXcentra, please dont promote automatix, it has broken lots of installations needlessly
[03:58] <JavaDeveloper_> Hi, I have installed GnuCASH from synaptic, how do I add it to Applications menu? I tried "Add/Remove Applications" but can't find it
[03:58] <eXcentra> elkbuntu, really? it's always worked for me :(
[03:58] <silvertip257> ok no automatix for me then
[03:58] <hondje> Squee: Yes :)
[03:58] <brian98> EvanIsaac, It's worked for me on a number of different installs....
[03:58] <silvertip257> eXcentra now what :P
[03:58] <bimberi> JavaDeveloper_: not in "Office" ?
[03:58] <JavaDeveloper_> bimberi: nope
[03:58] <eXcentra> elkbuntu, for future reference, what do you propose as an alternative?
[03:59] <brian98> JavaDeveloper_, applications --> alacarte menu editor
[03:59] <unics> it shows next time you reboot
[03:59] <rredd4> does any video player accept m4v format ubuntu?  Are there codecs i can download?
[03:59] <bimberi> JavaDeveloper_: ok, right-click on "Applications" and select Edit Menus
[03:59] <elkbuntu> eXcentra, doing it manually, or there's easyubuntu which is less dangerous imho
[03:59] <EvanIsaac> the thing is is that for my particular card it tells me to install 2 different inf's
[03:59] <adam> !media transfer protocol
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about media transfer protocol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <EvanIsaac> if that means anything to you
[03:59] <brian98> EvanIsaac, just install the xp driver
[04:00] <EvanIsaac>  how can i tell which one that is?
[04:00] <brian98> EvanIsaac, under ndiswrapper of course!
[04:00] <elkbuntu> eXcentra, automatix defaults to saying 'yes' for questions.. so if something necissary was to get uninstalled accidentally, it would say 'yes' and kill the system :(
[04:00] <boris55> ln -s filename
[04:00] <eXcentra> elkbuntu, ouch :/
[04:00] <brian98> EvanIsaac, It will be on the CD usually under a windowsxp dir
[04:00] <EvanIsaac> what do you mean under ndiswrapper
[04:00] <brian98> sudo ndiswrapper -i /location_of_your_wireless_driver/your_driver.inf
[04:00] <SpudDogg> Jack_Sparrow: you here?
[04:00] <brian98> EvanIsaac, have a good read of http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29
[04:00] <JavaDeveloper_> bimberi: I dun see "Edit menus"
[04:01] <eXcentra> silvertip257, well, i suggest looking in the ubuntu wiki or ubuntuforums for answers (ie. how to install this or that). gotta eat dinner. :P
[04:01] <hondje> SpudDogg: ln -s <source file> <link you want> in a console
[04:01] <EvanIsaac> the folders i have on the cd are acrobat, doc, ndis5, and utility
[04:01] <adam> can some1 help me with an MTP mp3 player? I heard linux supports MTP now
[04:01] <bimberi> JavaDeveloper_: what version of Ubuntu?
[04:01] <silvertip257> ok ty eXcentra
[04:01] <JavaDeveloper_> bimberi: 6.06
[04:01] <bimberi> JavaDeveloper_: Gnome?
[04:01] <brian98> EvanIsaac, whats the card again?
[04:01] <JavaDeveloper_> bimberi: yes
[04:01] <EvanIsaac> W111T
[04:01] <SpudDogg> hondje:  when i did this before, i had to create the directory in the same line...now that wont work
[04:01] <EvanIsaac> netgear
[04:01] <bimberi> JavaDeveloper_: Applicatoins -> Accessories -> Alacarte Menu Editor
[04:01] <bimberi> ?
[04:01] <JavaDeveloper_> bimberi: yup, then?
[04:01] <brian98> EvanIsaac, Netgear what?
[04:02] <EvanIsaac> Netgear W111T
[04:02] <hondje> SpudDogg: you'll have to make the target directory before putting a link in it, use the command mkdir
[04:02] <silvertip257> would anyone be willing to help me interpret the install instructions from Java ?
[04:02] <silvertip257> *please*
[04:02] <bimberi> JavaDeveloper_: i can't talk you through that, have a try, come back if stuck :)
[04:02] <thoreauputic> JavaDeveloper_: or right click on the Applications menu icon, you should see "Edit Menus"
[04:02] <EvanIsaac> it's number 19 under N on the supported cards list
[04:03] <JavaDeveloper_> thoreauputic: yes, but I still can't find gnucash, do I have to reboot?
[04:03] <SpudDogg> hondje: i tried doing it that way, but it ended up putting the target directory inside the newly made directory...instead of the newly made directory being the link, does that make sense?
[04:03] <brian98> EvanIsaac, do you have windows drivers for it?
[04:03] <bimberi> JavaDeveloper_: use the menu editor to _add_ gnucash whereever you want in the menu
[04:03] <thoreauputic> JavaDeveloper_: you installed gnucash and it isn't in the menu, right?
[04:03] <EvanIsaac> i used both the inf's
[04:03] <EvanIsaac> which i suppose are windows drivers
[04:03] <hondje> SpudDogg: ah, okay. You want the new directory to be a symlink, not a symlink inside the dir, right?
[04:03] <EvanIsaac> considering this is installed on other windows computers
[04:03] <SpudDogg> hondje: well, i guess so, yes
[04:04] <thoreauputic> bimberi: I have no idea if gnucash hs a .desktop file - you would think it would
[04:04] <Imrahil> my xorg.conf is basically default except for nvidia driver and changed resolution to 1280x1024. the flatpanel uses 75hz instead of the optimal 60hz. make any difference?
[04:04] <brian98> EvanIsaac, I don't understand why you need to install two infs, sounds like trouble!
[04:04] <hondje> SpudDogg: If you're where you want the symlink to be, ln -s <source> .  with that dot on the end, and it'll link the source 'here'
[04:04] <bimberi> thoreauputic: i thought it did too
[04:04] <thoreauputic> bimberi: in which case " killall gnome-panel" might help
[04:05] <EvanIsaac> according to the list it says to do both of them
[04:05] <SpudDogg> hondje: so my command would be 'sudo ln -s <source> . <target> <new dir name>'?
[04:05] <EvanIsaac> Other: This driver comes with two sets of .inf and .sys files: athfmwdl and wg111t. Both of these must be installed with their *.inf files. After that, with version 1.7rc1, ndiswrapper can be used as in the case of other drivers; earlier versions of ndiswrapper required load_fw_ar5523 program to be run, but it is not needed anymore. Suspend/resume also works now.
[04:05] <cpk2> Imrahil: as long as the monitor supports taht res @75 you should be fine
[04:05] <hondje> SpudDogg: whoa, that's too much. What exactly are you trying to do?
[04:05] <knapp> Help, how do I access the gdm configuration? where is it stored?
[04:05] <bimberi> thoreauputic: yes, although they usually just appear
[04:05] <Dr_willis> knapp,  in /etc/ some where.. or use the gdm config tools
[04:06] <SpudDogg> hondje: i need a symlink from /lib/modules/<kernel version>/build to /usr/src
[04:06] <knapp> Dr_willis, gdm config tools?
[04:06] <kothz> woohoo.  new install of ubuntu with native bcm43xx drivers.  I feel so, so, so... afraid to reboot :)
[04:06] <thoreauputic> bimberi: agreed - sometimes it takes a while on slower machines or if there are a lot of apps in the menus
[04:06] <Dr_willis>  /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[04:06] <knapp> thanks
[04:06] <hondje> SpudDogg: ln -s /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build /usr/src
[04:06] <Dr_willis> knapp,  theres a control panel/applet/thang/program to set the gdm settings in the menus
[04:07] <SpudDogg> hondje: i do not think that will work, but im gonna try it
[04:07] <Dr_willis> knapp,  :) it pays to explore the menus.
[04:08] <brian98> EvanIsaac, ok, one is for usb and one is for the wireless card itself, it's usb then?
[04:08] <hondje> SpudDogg: cut and paste it, if the directory you're linking from exists, then it will work. make sure you're using `uname -r` with the ` and not '
[04:08] <EvanIsaac> yes
[04:08] <EvanIsaac> what wireless card??
[04:08] <EvanIsaac> :S
[04:08] <brian98> yes
[04:08] <brian98> !
[04:08] <SpudDogg> hondje: it appears as though i need to put the target first
[04:08] <EvanIsaac> the USB is the wireless
[04:08] <brian98> ok
[04:08] <hondje> SpudDogg: Why do you think that?
[04:09] <SpudDogg> hondje: ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/src/build' to `/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build': File exists
[04:09] <THX-1138> Hi. - I have added a group of packages saved from the last install in /usr/var/apt/cache   Using the "Add downloaded packages" in synaptic.  - Synaptic shows them as INSTALLED. - they aren't and i don't want or need all of them. - What should i do?
[04:09] <SpudDogg> hondje: dont i want the build folder to point to /usr/src, not the other way around?
[04:09] <hondje> SpudDogg: then the symlink already exists.
[04:09] <SpudDogg> hondje: one sec
[04:10] <amicrawle> does any body know how to configure kmame?
[04:10] <bruenig> THX-1138, remove the ones you don't want
[04:10] <amicrawle> were to put stuff to make it work ?
[04:10] <brian98> EvanIsaac, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=442864
[04:10] <brian98> EvanIsaac, your not alone :(#
[04:10] <hondje> SpudDogg: if you do it as I put above, with /usr/src instead of /usr/src/build, then it will create a symlink directory named build going to the modules directory.
[04:11] <hondje> SpudDogg: so, for example, cd /usr/src/build would take you to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[04:11] <THX-1138> bruenig - How do i use the filter option in synaptic to find them? What happens if Synaptic thinks they are installed and they AREN'T...
[04:11] <amicrawle> does any body  know mame?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  you got mame installed yet?
[04:11] <brian98> EvanIsaac, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/69050-ndiswrapper.html
[04:11] <amicrawle> yes i do and xmess
[04:11] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  ive used mame quite a bit.. i only got like 120gb+ of roms :P
[04:11] <EvanIsaac> there's one step in the howto you sent me that's different than the one i used
[04:11] <EvanIsaac> so i'm doing it
[04:11] <hondje> SpudDogg: Note, though, that pwd will say that you're in /usr/src/... and not in the /lib
[04:12] <bruenig> THX-1138, not familiar with synaptic, if you want to remove some of the debs, a quick sudo rm whatever.deb will do it via command line
[04:12] <amicrawle> dr wills do you have a ftp ?
[04:12] <brian98> EvanIsaac, keep me posted!
[04:12] <SpudDogg> hondje: it needs to be the other way around...i need 'cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build to take me to /usr/src
[04:12] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  use bittorrent. :P
[04:12] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  "/etc/xmame/xmamerc"  shows what dirs it looks for by default for the stuff.
[04:12] <amicrawle> Dr_wills will you go priv  so i can learn ?
[04:12] <bruenig> THX-1138, if it thinks it is installed, you can do a sudo apt-get remove whatever to uninstall it
[04:13] <EvanIsaac> when i try to do the gksudo gedit /etc/modules it says authentication rejected
[04:13] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  roms go in -- -> /usr/share/games/xmame/roms
[04:13] <hondje> SpudDogg: ah :) then ln -s /usr/src /lib/modules/`uname -r/build or however you want it to be :)
[04:13] <SpudDogg> hondje: let me try that out
[04:13] <brian98> EvanIsaac, did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111
[04:13] <amicrawle> do i need sudo privs do that
[04:13] <deathz0r_> !info bitch
[04:13] <ubotu> Package bitch does not exist in any distro I know
[04:13] <deathz0r_> !info bitchx
[04:13] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB
[04:13] <THX-1138> bruenig - There are near one HUNDRED packages. - Eep!
[04:14] <EvanIsaac> mine is a W111T, not a WG111
[04:14] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  since its not a user owned directory ... logicially.. YES...
[04:14] <deathz0r_> ahhh, universe.
[04:14] <THX-1138> Hi Hobbsee.
[04:14] <SpudDogg> hondje: that gives me a prompt...just a little >
[04:14] <bruenig> THX-1138, if you can find similarities you can use the wildcard, but that is the only way to do it I am pretty sure. If you installed tem all, you are going to have to uninstall and remove them all.
[04:14] <amicrawle> do the biso go there to ?
[04:14] <hondje> SpudDogg: it's waiting for the command to finish
[04:14] <Dr_willis> biso?
[04:15] <barry_>  I'm a windows user, can someone help me learn Ubuntu?
[04:15] <hondje> so, something is missing ... did you use two `'s, or hit / at the end?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> barry_,  start with the Ubuntu guides at the web site. :P
[04:15] <amicrawle> yes like neo-geo and jag
[04:15] <brian98> barry_ http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[04:15] <THX-1138> bruenig - thats just it. Synaptic shows amny as installed that aren't. - How do i find them?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> hey THX-1138
[04:15] <surabachi> need help compiling gimmie bar, i get error when trying to run it
[04:15] <brian98> EvanIsaac, should be pretty similar
[04:15] <barry_> I've got other questions, drivers
[04:16] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  those are normally not mame things, (but it can run neo-geo games)  those are mess things. :P  and im not sure what 'jag' you are refering to
[04:16] <EvanIsaac> how come my authentication was rejected though
[04:16] <Madpilot> barry_, help.ubuntu.com/community - best place to start. Also, System->Help->System Documentation on your desktop
[04:16] <bruenig> they are in /var/cache/apt
[04:16] <amicrawle> atari
[04:16] <Audimage> i am having problems playing dvds, when i play them i have no sound...before you ask, my sound is working just fine
[04:16] <amicrawle> jag
[04:16] <EvanIsaac> when i try to do the gksudo gedit /etc/modules it says authentication rejected
[04:16] <surabachi> ne help, i have a major compiling issue with gimmie bar
[04:16] <barry_> @willis, man I cannot get my ati drivers working from the ATI site
[04:16] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  thats all 'mess' related.. i dident even think MESS did the atari Jagjaure
[04:16] <Dr_willis> barry_,  i ve never used them from that site.. i follow the !ATI wiki page
[04:16] <Dr_willis> !ati
[04:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:17] <amicrawle> where do i get sudo  in the gui so i can cut and paste the files
[04:17] <EvanIsaac> and what do i put if my wireless router has no SSID?
[04:17] <barry_> KO, I'll check it out doc
[04:17] <SpudDogg> hondje: it is still putting the symlink inside the build folder
[04:17] <surabachi> get an error when trying to run gimmie bar
[04:17] <Audimage> amicrawle, the command cp will copy and paste
[04:17] <cpk2> EvanIsaac: any/off
[04:17] <brian98> EvanIsaac, thats ok don't mind that error..
[04:17] <THX-1138> Tried to save a bit of bandwidth by copying and reusing apt/cache  has created an interesting puzzle. Synaptic thinks many packages added using the "Add downloded packages" are installed already. - hm
[04:17] <Madpilot> amicrawle, you could do 'gksudo nautilus' - but be very, very careful with that. Root privs + GUI = a good way to break your Ubuntu...
[04:18] <EvanIsaac> well i can't go into gedit because of that
[04:18] <EvanIsaac> or should i just ignore that howto and try this one
[04:18] <amicrawle> so like   "cp home/amicrawler to usr/share/games/xmame"?
[04:18] <bruenig> gui, a good way to break anything
[04:18] <surabachi> lo
[04:18] <Audimage> amicrawle, yes except no to
[04:18] <amicrawle> k
[04:18] <Audimage> amicrawle, it'd be this...
[04:18] <brian98> use sudo nano /etc/modules
[04:18] <bruenig> vim!
[04:18] <Madpilot> amicrawle, best to stick with the terminal, yes - "sudo cp /home/amicrawler/foo /usr/share/games/xmame" or whatever
[04:19] <surabachi> help compilin gplease?
[04:19] <Audimage> sudo cp /home/amicrawler/ /user/share/games/xmame/
[04:19] <david___> where is the file that the package manager reads to find the repositories?
[04:19] <bruenig> surabachi, what are you compiling?
[04:19] <Madpilot> david___, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:19] <Audimage> err, user=usr
[04:19] <surabachi> bruenig, well i already compiled gimmie bar, but i am getting errors trying to run it
[04:19] <brian98> bruenig, vim!
[04:19] <Audimage> can anybody help me get sound working while playing dvds?
[04:20] <amicrawle> ok sayes no such dir
[04:20] <THX-1138> bruenig - isn't Synaptic a facade for apt? Same options, switches, etc, - bruenig - How would the cammand line read to remove those "ghostly" not installed packages?
[04:20] <holzmodem> hi, i want to upgrade my knot3 install to beta... but there was only 10 updates, is that right?
[04:20] <bruenig> what is gimmi bar?
[04:20] <bruenig> THX-1138, sudo apt-get remove whatever
[04:20] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I used your wiki iptables explanation to get a handle on how it works - thank you :) I changed one thing though: default DROP policy makes appending rules easier
[04:20] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  or learn to use 'mc' :)
[04:20] <surabachi> bruenig, its a dock liek app for gnome
[04:20] <surabachi> bruenig, google gimmie bar to see it
[04:20] <david___> Version 0.98 is available for dvd::rip, but my package manager only lets me get 0.52, can someone help?
[04:20] <DarkMageZ> holzmodem, edgy is in #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <bruenig> surabachi, I am trying to see if it is in the repos
[04:21] <surabachi> bruenig,  check this out to see my problem
[04:21] <surabachi> bruenig, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[04:21] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, not sure which wiki page you're talking about, but I doubt I wrote most of it - was probably just the last person to edit it! ;)
[04:21] <phatxmatt> what games are yall playing?
[04:21] <thedash> so, is there anything I can do about the poor SATA controllers in Ubuntu?
[04:21] <Audimage> amicrawle, i am trying to talk to you in another room to explain it
[04:21] <DarkMageZ> phatxmatt, quake 3
[04:21] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: ah, perhaps - IptablesHowto I think
[04:21] <THX-1138> bruenig - How would i add a wild card to automate test for installation and the removal of nearly one hundred packages?
[04:21] <phatxmatt> any awesome
[04:21] <kothz> I'm playing Synaptic Package Manager.  It's riveting.
[04:21] <phatxmatt> thoreauputic: i ordered quake 3 for linux on cd from amazon
[04:22] <Madpilot> thedash, you could file a bug, with as much detail as you can supply. bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:22] <phatxmatt> thoreauputic any other way to get it...nice nick btw
[04:22] <sethk> surabachi, you are missing a module at the python level.  not sure where it should come from, though
[04:22] <bruenig> THX-1138, it is unlikely, but if you know all of the apps that start with a certain thing you want to remove, you could use it to help you out a little bit
[04:22] <EvanIsaac> brian98: when i add ndiswrapper to the list, do i reboot?
[04:22] <sethk> thedash, you mean poor drivers?
[04:22] <thoreauputic> phatxmatt: that's nice.... why are you telling me? :)
[04:22] <briguyd_> phatxmatt, did you have quake3 for windows?
[04:22] <phatxmatt> no i didnt
[04:22] <briguyd_> ok, good
[04:22] <phatxmatt> well i did a while back
[04:22] <phatxmatt> haha i was just wondering what games people are playing on nix these days
[04:22] <SpudDogg> hondje: are you still here?
[04:22] <brian98> EvanIsaac, thats just to load ndiswrapper the next time you boot, should be loaded now
[04:23] <briguyd_> because theres a way to install from that, without buying a linux-specific CD
[04:23] <hondje> SpudDogg: barely ;)
[04:23] <thedash> I am told that my problem with my SATA drive is because of poor SATA controllers, however, I have neither the knowledge nor skill to back up or remedy this problem
[04:23] <briguyd_> phatxmatt, im playing nethack
[04:23] <SpudDogg> hondje: this is so frustrating
[04:23] <brian98> phatxmatt, http://my.opera.com/Mr%20Green/blog/show.dml/171040 :)
[04:23] <bruenig> neverball
[04:23] <thoreauputic> phatxmatt: mostly I play multi-user notepad
[04:23] <sethk> thedash, no, the problem is with the device drivers, not the controllers
[04:23] <briguyd_> thoreauputic, irc?
[04:23] <sethk> thedash, give me details.
[04:23] <EvanIsaac> well how can i configure my wireless card if it still doesn't show me wlan0?
[04:23] <thoreauputic> briguyd: you got it :)
[04:23] <briguyd_> thoreauputic, what do i win?
[04:23] <surabachi> bruenig,  any ideas?
[04:24] <thoreauputic> briguyd: a copy of Windows ME ;P
[04:24] <thedash> well, brand new Seagate 400GB SATA drive, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, does not function at any speed, and crashes my computer
[04:24] <briguyd_> what a great prize
[04:24] <brian98> EvanIsaac, iwconfig
[04:24] <thoreauputic> ewww
[04:24] <thoreauputic> :))
[04:24] <brian98> EvanIsaac, any wireless extensions?
[04:24] <sethk> thedash, it's a driver problem.
[04:24] <THX-1138> bruenig - That will thin things down a bit. - still a puzzle isn't it? - Ach! - recycling your saved /var/cache/apt/archive introduces errors and is a bad idea and sadly costly for a great organization like canonical.
[04:24] <sethk> thedash, you can try the most recent release of the kernel from kernel.org, see if it's been fixed yet.
[04:24] <briguyd_> i wish everyone had windows ME, then the world would spontaneously combust
[04:24] <THX-1138> thoreauputic - any ideas?
[04:24] <Madpilot> thedash, do the drive & mobo work together in other operating systems?
[04:24] <sethk> thedash, I have one box with that problem, but it's been about a month since I tried updating the kernel.
[04:24] <bruenig> my thing would be to find it in the repos or a deb of it. I guess I could suggest you install build-essential if you havent. other than that there are too many possibilities and I am unfamiliar with the app, so it is probably unlikely I could help.
[04:25] <thedash> Madpilot:: yes, they work fine in windows
[04:25] <THX-1138> I badly wish it worked.
[04:25] <acersales> hi is there a way to have automated updates ? in ubuntu  ?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: I frequently have ideas but since I just got back from the corner shop and am drinking a coffee I missed your question
[04:25] <EvanIsaac> no wireless extensions
[04:25] <brian98> EvanIsaac, argh
[04:25] <acersales> i have to update everyday manually
[04:25] <jiSh> acersales: it already has auto updates.
[04:25] <thedash> sethk:: I know little about linux to not really have any knowledge of kernel upgradingness
[04:25] <surabachi> need help with this: http://www.beatniksoftware.com/gimmie/
[04:25] <acersales> jiSh, but it asks about updates
[04:25] <THX-1138> thoreauputic - In Synaptic there is an option to add downloaded packages
[04:25] <sethk> surabachi, your problem is with a missing python module.  you can install other stuff for the next 20 years and it won't fix anything.
[04:25] <bruenig> THX-1138, if you wanted to keep some of your old debs from /var/cache/apt, why didn't you get those debs and sudo dpkg -i them instead of just copying them into that directory?
[04:26] <Madpilot> thedash, my 120Gb SATA drive has always worked flawlessly in Ubuntu; file a bug like I suggested and see what feedback you get... not sure what else to suggest, though...
[04:26] <acersales> jiSh, doesnt install it automatic
[04:26] <czer323_> God, i hate aptitude errors.
[04:26] <sethk> thedash, upgrading the kernel is simple
[04:26] <THX-1138> I resused the apt/archives from a prior install. 100s of megabytes
[04:26] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: ah, I didn't know that - I only use apt and aptitude
[04:26] <brian98> EvanIsaac, I'm sorry but I'm out of ideas.... Maybe pick up a pci card... 30$ ? sorry maybe someone else could help ?
[04:26] <kothz> Yick.  Never let an automated system willy-nilly auto-upgrade you :)
[04:26] <sethk> thedash, pm me if you want to attempt it.
[04:26] <surabachi> sethk, how do i get the missing file?
[04:26] <Audimage> When i play dvds i have no sound, any ideas?
[04:26] <EvanIsaac> i don't think this can take a pci card
[04:26] <cpk2> thedash: apt-get does kernel upgrades
[04:26] <EvanIsaac> well
[04:26] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...I have an ATI mobility 5200 card...I've installed the proprietary drivers from ati.com...i get the correct resolution but no 3d support when running fgl_glxgears...what am i doing wrong?
[04:27] <surabachi> sethk, how do i get the missing python module?
[04:27] <brian98> EvanIsaac, is it a laptop?
[04:27] <sethk> surabachi, I don't know, but it's obvious from the message you posted that the error  is coming from python and is about missing python code.
[04:27] <bruenig> THX-1138, right, you should have just sudo dpkg -i them in order to install the ones you wanted. Kind of stupid to just copy them in to the new /var/cache/apt
[04:27] <EvanIsaac> pcmai is what my wired internet is coming  out of right?
[04:27] <EvanIsaac> yes it is
[04:27] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: I remember rescuing a broken debian install like that with much use of dpkg and apt-get -f install
[04:27] <sethk> surabachi, give me that url again, I closed the paste window
[04:27] <THX-1138> It has to be costing Canonical a LOT of money. to download them wioth the thousands of users
[04:27] <brian98> EvanIsaac, ok, well persevere then..
[04:27] <amicrawle> how do i add the user root to my login?
[04:27] <brian98> !root
[04:27] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  best to learn to use sudo properly
[04:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:28] <thoreauputic> amicrawle: in general, you don't and you shouldn't
[04:28] <surabachi> sethk,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[04:28] <sethk> amicrawle, that makes no sense.  you have a login, and root is another user.  do you mean the group root?
[04:28] <THX-1138> A prompt "Would you like to copy you downloaded packages to a second mirrored directory" - would be cool
[04:28] <EvanIsaac> ok thanks a lot for your help
[04:28] <surabachi> sethk,  what python mudule am i missing?
[04:28] <Audimage> I am unable to play dvds with sound---need help
[04:28] <brian98> EvanIsaac, sorry I couldn't help any better
[04:28] <Matir> So I have a Fujitsu Stylistic Tablet PC on which I'd like to put ubuntu, but it has no USB CD boot capability... anyone have thoughts on other ways to approach this?
[04:28] <sethk> surabachi, _egg
[04:28] <EvanIsaac> it's ok
[04:28] <EvanIsaac> you've helped more than anyone else
[04:29] <EvanIsaac> i usually end up in here waiting for a response for 1 1/2 hrs
[04:29] <shriphani> Matir, configure your bios to boot om usb
[04:29] <brian98> Matir: 1 gig mem stick
[04:29] <EvanIsaac> and leave
[04:29] <sethk> surabachi, I just googled for python and _egg and I find a bunch of stuff.  read, you'll find the answer there I'm sure.
[04:29] <surabachi> sethk, can i get that in apt-get?
[04:29] <brian98> EvanIsaac, if you do keep at it you will get it working
[04:29] <sethk> surabachi, I don't know, but I suspect not.
[04:29] <surabachi> sethk, how can i get the egg
[04:29] <shriphani> from ^
[04:29] <brian98> EvanIsaac, if you type tail /var/log/syslog
[04:30] <brian98> can you see anything about the card?
[04:30] <Matir> shriphani, brian98, it doesn't seem that this machine will boot from USB at all... at least, not from USB flash or CD
[04:30] <Audimage> surabachi, you can get python by sudo apt-get install python
[04:30] <sethk> surabachi, find the home page for gimmie
[04:30] <shriphani> Matir, did you try ?
[04:30] <Audimage> I need help getting dvds to play with sound, anybody?
[04:31] <EvanIsaac> it just said a bunch of stuff about touchpad
[04:31] <shriphani> try as in fiddle with the bios
[04:31] <amicrawle> how doi enable root ?
[04:31] <hondje> Audimage: what are you using to play dvds?
[04:31] <shriphani> amicrawle, sudo
[04:31] <sethk> amicrawle, root is not disabled, so you don't enable it.
[04:31] <shriphani> sudo followed by command
[04:31] <thoreauputic> Audimage: you need to be more specific I think - like what sound card, what errors, what have you tried...
[04:31] <amicrawle> and my password will not work  for root
[04:31] <Matir> shriphani, yes, I've checked the BIOS... boot options are floppy and hard drive (though it has no built-in floppy, it has a proprietary connector for one, but i don't have the drive)
[04:31] <THX-1138> thoreauputic - Would i be considered a bother in with that question in the developer channel? (Ipromise to be polite.)
[04:31] <sethk> amicrawle, the root password is not set.
[04:31] <brian98> EvanIsaac,  type nano /var/log/syslog
[04:31] <Audimage> ihondje i have vlc, mplayer, and xine installed
[04:31] <sethk> amicrawle, of course not, you aren't root.
[04:31] <brian98> EvanIsaac, then search for wlan
[04:31] <amicrawle> i want to su to root
[04:31] <shriphani> Matir, you are supposed to change that
[04:31] <brian98> type ctrl w
[04:31] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: I think best not to ask question in -devel
[04:31] <sethk> amicrawle, you can set the root password.  some people claim that using sudo is better, although that's not really ture.
[04:31] <sethk> s/ture/true/
[04:32] <shriphani> amicrawle, create a root account
[04:32] <Audimage> amicrawle type sudo -s
[04:32] <Matir> shriphani, the ONLY boot options are floppy and hard drive, as I said.
[04:32] <Audimage> then type in you're password
[04:32] <THX-1138> thoreuputic - Okay,
[04:32] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: you could try the ubuntu-users mailing list
[04:32] <amicrawle> ok
[04:32] <EvanIsaac> ctrl w doesn't do anything
[04:32] <shriphani> Matir, you cant configure the bios ?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: there are some clueful people on the list
[04:32] <Matir> shriphani, there is no BIOS boot option for USB
[04:32] <amicrawle> did;nt ask 4 1
[04:32] <sethk> shriphani, the root _account_ is already there.  the system won't even run without a root account
[04:32] <THX-1138> thoreauputic - You have done it again. - I'll do that - Thank You.
[04:32] <brian98> Matir: http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm
[04:33] <amicrawle> yes i know that
[04:33] <shriphani> you could try the floppy then
[04:33] <Audimage> amicrawle, that means you typed it in earlier
[04:33] <shriphani> although no idea how that works
[04:33] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: pretty high volume list - you might get a fast answer there but be prepared for a lot of mail :)
[04:33] <thedash> if I am adding a drive to the fstab, what do the <dump> and <pass> mean?
[04:33] <sethk> thedash, man mount will tell you
[04:33] <THX-1138> ROFLMAO - Why would *anyone* use closed source?
[04:33] <amicrawle> i use to be a suse user
[04:33] <amicrawle> they have a su root  gui interface
[04:34] <sethk> thedash, briefly the pass controls the order of checking for clean file systems at boot time
[04:34] <Audimage> I cannot get sound to work on DVDs with Xine or MPlayer
[04:34] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  like gksudo progrramname
[04:34] <THX-1138> Very cool.
[04:34] <THX-1138> Thanks again thoreauputic.
[04:34] <thoreauputic> Audimage: have you checked the sound settings in alsamixer?
[04:34] <sethk> thedash, don't worry about dumping, it is mostly irrelevant
[04:34] <silvertip257> HEY sethk
[04:34] <thoreauputic> THX-1138: np - good luck :)
[04:34] <sethk> silvertip257, how is it going?
[04:34] <Audimage> thoreauputic how do i check sounds there
[04:35] <silvertip257> sethk well at least I'm currently running Ubuntu 6.06.1
[04:35] <sethk> silvertip257, that's good (I guess)  :)
[04:35] <thedash> my drive is in ext3 atm, [/dev/sda1    	/media/Main 	ext3  		defaults  	0    0] , but if I mount it w/o mount point, it says wrong fs type
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Audimage: type alsamixer in a terminal, use the arrow keys and tab to navigate, m to mute/unmute
[04:35] <amicrawle> sayes missing command to run  "gksudo ?
[04:35] <silvertip257> sethk:  I'd like to learn how 2 install prgms, but i'm not having luck w/ online docs
[04:35] <Flannel> amicrawle: are you running kubuntu or xubuntu?
[04:35] <amicrawle> k
[04:35] <deathz0r_> in ubuntu, is there a process monitor  app like windows task manager?
[04:36] <deathz0r_> like a visual one on gnome.
[04:36] <sethk> thedash, can you mount from the command line, without using fstab?
[04:36] <brian98> EvanIsaac,  type pico /var/log/syslog
[04:36] <Flannel> amicrawle: in kubuntu, kdesu, in xubuntu gksu
[04:36] <shriphani> Matir, http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/wolves/2004-October/010325.html
[04:36] <Flannel> EvanIsaac, brian98, nano not pico
[04:36] <shriphani> that might help
[04:36] <brian98> Flannel: whats the difference?
[04:36] <bruenig> deathz0r_, System>administration>system monitor
[04:36] <sethk> deathz0r_, there are several linux process monitors.  top works at the command line level (well, the terminal level, which is a bit better)
[04:36] <thoreauputic> deathz0r_: Sstem -Admin-System Monitor
[04:36] <sethk> deathz0r_, there are others with the various desktops
[04:36] <thoreauputic> umm System
[04:36] <deathz0r_> thanks
[04:36] <EvanIsaac>  what am i supposed to see here
[04:36] <Flannel> brian98: pico isn't Free, and isn't in ubuntu, nano is te Free clone, although, 'pico' might be a symlink to nano
[04:36] <sethk> deathz0r_, ps at the command line is the most powerful but of course has a bit of a learning curve.
[04:37] <thedash> sethk:: no, it says it can't read the superblock
[04:37] <shriphani> eyyup Matir that sounds like what you need
[04:37] <sethk> thedash, if you are 100% sure it is an ext3 file system, then you can try to repair it with fsck.ext3
[04:37] <amicrawle> kdesu does not bring any thing up in the gui
[04:37] <Matir> shriphani, thanks, I'll take a look
[04:37] <EvanIsaac> maybe i should just switch this back to windows, i'm not sure if it's worth being in the support room all week just to get my wifi working :\
[04:37] <brian98> Flannel: it's symlinked by default
[04:37] <roflpanda> Yah I've screwed up like 3 times with the command line.
[04:37] <bruenig> !windows
[04:37] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:37] <roflpanda> Trust me, I know nothing about any of this crap.
[04:37] <shriphani> http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[04:37] <roflpanda> XMMS: Underoath - There Could Be Nothing After This
[04:37] <sethk> roflpanda, like three times?  Not three times?
[04:38] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: you tried the wiki wifi docs?
[04:38] <roflpanda> Well, it's estimation.,
[04:38] <brian98> Flannel: sorry, redhat habits die hard....
[04:38] <shriphani> Matir, that is its homepage
[04:38] <EvanIsaac>  yes
[04:38] <EvanIsaac> yes
[04:38] <silvertip257> sethk did u read my last msg
[04:38] <EvanIsaac> yes
[04:38] <sethk> silvertip257, stuff flies by so fast tonight.  what do you need to install?
[04:38] <shriphani> btmgr.webframe.org
[04:38] <EvanIsaac>   :|
[04:38] <Audimage> thoreauputic that iddn't work
[04:38] <thedash> sethk:: that didn't work either
[04:38] <thedash> superblock couldn't be read
[04:39] <thoreauputic> Audimage: what didn't work? There are many posible adjustments in alsamixer
[04:39] <sethk> thedash, there are tools for ext3 that can attempt to recover it.  there are redundent superblocks written when the file system is created
[04:39] <roflpanda> msg nickserv register swanks
[04:39] <silvertip257> sethk:  i'd like to start off w/ something easy like (for the heck of it) installing stuff like java & such
[04:39] <roflpanda> whoops
[04:39] <sethk> thedash, how did it get damaged?
[04:39] <thedash> sethk:: there is nothing on it atm
[04:39] <thedash> its brand new
[04:39] <sethk> thedash, then do mkfs.ext3 on it
[04:39] <thedash> but I did format it in ext3, and it was recognized for a bit
[04:39] <roflpanda> Ok, sweet.
[04:39] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...I have an ATI mobility 5200 card...I've installed the proprietary drivers from ati.com...i get the correct resolution but no 3d support when running fgl_glxgears...what am i doing wrong?
[04:39] <sethk> silvertip257, java is actually one of the trickier things to install.  It is in the repositories
[04:40] <thoreauputic> General Announcemnet: Saying "that didn't work" is not helpful and means nothing to those trying to troubleshoot for you
[04:40] <shriphani> Matir, did you look at the home page of btmgr ?
[04:40] <silvertip257> oh boy sethk has got me confusedddd
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Gevaudan82,  why did you use those?  i always follow the !ati wiki page.
[04:40] <Audimage> thoreauputic, it isn't that the volume isn't up, it is that i have no sound working at all
[04:40] <Dr_willis> !ati
[04:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:40] <sethk> silvertip257, how?
[04:40] <roflpanda> yah SOUND
[04:40] <thedash> sethk:: on the whole drive?  or should I fdisk to make a partition first?  does it matter?
[04:40] <Gevaudan82> silvertip256: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-sdk && sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:40] <Asymmetry> Can someone explain to me how Ubuntu orders SCSI/SATA drives?
[04:40] <crimsun> Audimage: what's the issue?
[04:40] <Gevaudan82> Dr_willis: i did not have much success with those pages...no 3d support
[04:40] <roflpanda> How do I get the stupid sound to work for EVERYTHING at once?
[04:40] <silvertip257> sethk i just looked @ something on the web bout repositories & i was like wth ?
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Audimage: what happens if you run   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  ?
[04:40] <Audimage> i cannot get sound to work with dvds in xine and mplayer
[04:40] <roflpanda> I want to listen to music/watch youtube
[04:41] <Asymmetry> It's mapping drive 1 to SCSI 3, drive 3 to SCSI 1, and drive 4 to SCSI 2.
[04:41] <unics> sda sdb for SATA
[04:41] <crimsun> roflpanda: that's a pipe dream unless your hardware supports it, like an SB Live/Audigy
[04:41] <roflpanda> I've tried that alsa thing.
[04:41] <roflpanda> I have a via something or other.
[04:41] <sethk> thedash, it's unusual to use the entire device for a file system, but there is nothing wrong with doing it that way.  using fdisk might be easier, because lots of people don't know that you can use the entire device, and not have a partition table, and they'll confuse you about what arguments to use for various commands
[04:41] <crimsun> roflpanda: sorry, you're screwed.
[04:41] <Dr_willis> I like my Audigy card.
[04:41] <roflpanda> haha
[04:41] <roflpanda> That's what I thought.
[04:41] <Asymmetry> unics, I know what the drive points are. I just don't get how it orders them.
[04:41] <Dr_willis> Creative has some nice $30 cards out as well.
[04:41] <sethk> silvertip257, the synaptic tool is a very easy to use installation tool.  run it, and use its search, and search for java.
[04:41] <crimsun> spend the lunch money and get a junk-end SB Live
[04:41] <EvanIsaac> what advantages are in an OS where something that takes 15 seconds on windows requires so much time on linux??
[04:41] <thoreauputic> Audimage: is it a commercial DVD? Have you read the restricted formats wiki?
[04:41] <silvertip257> ok will do sethk
[04:41] <sethk> silvertip257, it's very easy to install almost everything just using that program.
[04:41] <thoreauputic> !restricted > Audimage
[04:42] <Gevaudan82> !ati
[04:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:42] <roflpanda> So via doesn't support more than one sound.
[04:42] <Audimage> thoreauputic, it says device is busy
[04:42] <silvertip257> ok sethk ty
[04:42] <roflpanda> Or more than one device using sound.
[04:42] <unics> maybe you should look in the bios
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Audimage: do you have libdvdcss installed?
[04:42] <crimsun> roflpanda: some of the newer Via chipsets do with varying degrees of crapitude
[04:42] <unics> usually in the same order
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Audimage: do you have several sound apps running?
[04:42] <roflpanda> I honestly don't know how old these chipsets are.
[04:42] <Audimage> yes
[04:42] <Asymmetry> unics, usually is an awesome word that never works for me.
[04:42] <Audimage> no
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Audimage: what does  pidof esd  say ?
[04:42] <roflpanda> How come it works in Windows?
[04:42] <Gevaudan82> Dr_willis: maybe the problem is i don't meet the prereqs...i don't have a radeon card but a firegl mobility 5220 mobility
[04:42] <roflpanda> Not that I care.
[04:42] <crimsun> roflpanda: software mixing.
[04:43] <roflpanda> Ahh
[04:43] <unics> :)) then it's sure that in the same order
[04:43] <brian98> EvanIsaac, You will find quite a few.. Consider the wireless card is probably the only thing that didn't install
[04:43] <Asymmetry> unics, Excuse me?
[04:43] <Audimage> thoreauputic, how do i find out
[04:43] <roflpanda> Well I fell upon Ubuntu on accident.
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Gevaudan82,  my x200 wasent listed as working either.. but it works.. try it and see..? other then that.. check the ubuntu wikis/forums i guess
[04:43] <ArrenLex> Ow, that must have hurt.
[04:43] <Asymmetry> Anyone else want to give this question a try?
[04:43] <roflpanda> And my windows crashed completely.
[04:43] <EvanIsaac> yeah, but i'm not into laptops without wifi :S
[04:43] <brian98> EvanIsaac, you throw xp at a machine with no device drivers on cd and tell me how long it takes to find the right drivers sometimes.
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Audimage:  type  "pidof esd " in a terminal ( no quotes)
[04:43] <roflpanda> So I decided to give this a try.
[04:43] <sethk> roflpanda, if it works in windows, either your linux configuration is wrong, or there is something buggy in the linux support for that particular sound hardware
[04:44] <Audimage> i did, and i got another $ thats it
[04:44] <thoreauputic> Audimage: if you see a number, try " killall esd" and restart your DVD
[04:44] <EvanIsaac> yeah but i've been here since 530 to around this time
[04:44] <Audimage> that is why i asked
[04:44] <EvanIsaac> since tuesday
[04:44] <roflpanda> Actually sound didn't work in windows because I had the wrong drivers for it.
[04:44] <sethk> brian98, by and large windows does a good job of finding drivers
[04:44] <thoreauputic> Audimage: OK esd isn't the issue then
[04:44] <Audimage> no process killed
[04:44] <roflpanda> Which is why, while reinstalling windows and the disc died on me.
[04:44] <roflpanda> And then UBUNTU
[04:44] <EvanIsaac> just trying to get my wifi to work
[04:44] <thoreauputic> Audimage: which program is telling you "device busy" ?
[04:44] <thedash> sethk:: it says the drive is in use by the system?
[04:45] <sethk> thedash, what did you run?
[04:45] <brian98> sethk, I have seen it being both excellent and both terrible...
[04:45] <EvanIsaac> and i've gotten nowhere
[04:45] <thedash> just the mkfs.ext3
[04:45] <roflpanda> I should have read up on ubuntu first.
[04:45] <silvertip257> well ty sethk, but i'm tired & i'll work w/ ubuntu some other day or night =D
[04:45] <sethk> thedash, you have to give it an argument, such as    mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdq1
[04:45] <EvanIsaac> just hours of my time wasted and me wasting other people's time just for me to still get nowhere
[04:45] <roflpanda> Or linux for that matter.
[04:45] <silvertip257> au revoir!
[04:45] <Audimage> thoreauputic cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp
[04:45] <sethk> thedash, of course it isn't q, but you see what I mean hopefully
[04:45] <thedash> sethk:: well, I did that
[04:45] <brian98> sethk, I recently setup a fujitsu siemens laptop with ubuntu and it worked out of the box..
[04:46] <sethk> thedash, that's not what you said
[04:46] <thoreauputic> Audimage: ah - so something has grabbed /dev/dsp - are you running skype ?
[04:46] <Audimage> thor no
[04:46] <sethk> thedash, it's hard to tell you what you are doing wrong when you don't say what you are doing
[04:46] <thedash> its sda1 in this case, as its a SATA drive
[04:46] <thoreauputic> Audimage: or are you running a game?
[04:46] <roflpanda> Oh and in Konversation adding a new konsole and then ending it crashes the whole system.
[04:46] <Audimage> thor, i am running xine, firefox, and gaim
[04:46] <Audimage> and terminal
[04:46] <sethk> brian98, I have a fujitsu laptop I installed it on recently also.  found the wireless lan with no problems.
[04:46] <brian98> sethk, anyway thats one for offtopic me thinks :)
[04:46] <Audimage> taht is all
[04:46] <thoreauputic> Audimage: some program is hogging the /dev/dsp
[04:46] <roflpanda> Or rather, konversation.
[04:46] <EvanIsaac> so there's no GUI way for me to get my USB adapter working???
[04:47] <Audimage> thoreauputic, any suggestions:
[04:47] <roflpanda> so there's no way i can get everything to use sound at once with my soundcard huh?
[04:47] <sethk> thedash, ok, but I thought you said you had problems with the sata drive?
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Audimage: what happens if you exit those programs ?
[04:47] <Audimage> ?
[04:47] <sethk> thedash, try this:    mount | grep sda
[04:47] <roflpanda> That sucks.
[04:47] <Audimage> i can't exit gaim, i am using it to talk in here
[04:47] <thedash> sethk:: I do, that is what I am trying to fix
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Audimage: do you have a flash page open in FF ?
[04:47] <Stevo> is there a command in cli that'll test your software?  (ie: running properly with necessary dependencies, etc)
[04:47] <sethk> thedash, see if anything from sda is in use.
[04:47] <EvanIsaac> i miss windows :((
[04:47] <thedash> nope,. nothing
[04:47] <sethk> thedash, if it's a driver problem, you can't fix it that way.
[04:47] <brian98> sethk, my point is with the same laptop if you didn't have the driver cd for that laptop for windows you would need to do a good bit of searching around the place. FSC laptops seem to be quite linux friendly
[04:47] <godtvisk1n> if i remove hda, will hdb be changed to hda?
[04:47] <sethk> brian98, sure, that is sometimes true.
[04:48] <thedash> sethk:: I am just trying to get it to show on the system again
[04:48] <Audimage> thoreauputic, i just got hella static when i typed taht in
[04:48] <brian98> EvanIsaac, don't give up!!
[04:48] <roflpanda> So I've had to reinstall ubuntu 3 times.
[04:48] <roflpanda> Haha.
[04:48] <b-_-d> can i get ubuntu in tar form?
[04:48] <Audimage> thor, no i didn't
[04:48] <Audimage> only the ubuntu site
[04:48] <Stevo> if you miss windows then go back.
[04:48] <sethk> thedash, if you do:     ls /dev/sda*         does anything show up?
[04:48] <EvanIsaac> when it says use -e to remove how do i remove?
[04:48] <roflpanda> I don't miss Windows, I like ubuntu.
[04:48] <st3v3dnd> I'm running Dapper and have an ati radeon 9200, have the ATI drivers installed through EasyUbuntu, and xgl is enabled in my xorg.conf file, but whenever I say go and look through the screensavers, the 3D ones send the processor straight to 100%. Any ideas where I can start?
[04:49] <sethk> b-_-d, it would be a mite difficult to install from a tarball.
[04:49] <thedash> sethk:: aye, /dev/sda and /dev/sda1
[04:49] <brian98> EvanIsaac, is it modprobe -e ndiswrapper
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Audimage: you mean you got a "static" sound from  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ? that's good - means your sound is working
[04:49] <roflpanda> It makes me feel like I'm learning something for some reason, using ubuntu
[04:49] <Stevo> i like ubuntu pretty well.  i ran Fedora for a couple years.
[04:49] <Audimage> thor, i coulda told you taht
[04:49] <thedash> sethk:: I am writing the fs to the drive now
[04:49] <sethk> thedash, ok
[04:49] <EvanIsaac> would that remove ndiswrapper?
[04:49] <b-_-d> sethk that is how i installed gentoo
[04:49] <Audimage> thor, i've been listening to music all day
[04:49] <EvanIsaac> i just want to remove the drivers i attempted to install
[04:49] <roflpanda> I'm listening to music. No sound=me in windows.
[04:49] <sethk> b-_-d, you have to install the boot loader, which can't be installed from a tarball, unless you want to boot from a floppy or cd
[04:49] <brian98> EvanIsaac, is it modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[04:49] <roflpanda> Very long last couple of months.
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Audimage: *sigh* you really need to learn  jow to ask questions
[04:50] <b-_-d> ubuntu looks cool and i want to try it
[04:50] <roflpanda> I need music to survive.
[04:50] <roflpanda> It is pretty cool.
[04:50] <brian98> EvanIsaac,  modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[04:50] <sethk> b-_-d, so install it using the way it is designed to be installed.
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Audimage: getting intelligent info from you is like getting blood from a stone
[04:50] <Audimage> thoreauputic, i cannot get sound to work on dvds, i have sound working everywhere else, but when i play a dvd i have no audio at all
[04:50] <roflpanda> You should definitley read up on linux.
[04:50] <thedash> sethk:: dmesg returns this: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3836
[04:50] <roflpanda> Because I'm screwin' things up left and right.
[04:50] <brian98> EvanIsaac, There is usually no reason to remove modules, but some buggy modules require it.  Your kernel may not support removal of modules.
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Audimage: did you install libdvdcss ?
[04:50] <roflpanda> Make sure you know what you are doing, and read all the wiki's and docs and everything.
[04:50] <brian98> thats from the man page
[04:50] <Audimage> thoreauputic, i said from the begining taht i couldn't get sound to play on dvds
[04:50] <EvanIsaac> it says netwg11t is already installed. use -e to remove it??
[04:50] <Audimage> thoreauptuic, yes
[04:51] <Audimage> thor, i can  play dvds, just no sound
[04:51] <EvanIsaac> how do i remove it??
[04:51] <sethk> Audimage, you should develop a fondness for charlie chaplin
[04:51] <dennis_> anyone have any luck getting a firewire enclosure with a hard disc inside mounted ? on a FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh controller
[04:51] <Audimage> :)
[04:51] <thoreauputic> Audimage: you can play CDs with sound?
[04:51] <godtvisken> If I remove my hda harddrive, will my hdb harddrive be renamed to hda?
[04:51] <Audimage> thor, lemme check
[04:51] <brian98> EvanIsaac,  modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[04:51] <Dr_willis> dennis_,  load the right modules. and it should show up as a scsi device.
[04:51] <sethk> godtvisken, no
[04:52] <EvanIsaac> i already tried that :|
[04:52] <livingtm> #initng
[04:52] <sethk> godtvisken, not unless you change the cables around (for properly installed EIDE) or the master/slave jumpers (for older IDE or improperly configured eide)
[04:52] <godtvisken> sethk: i think my MBR is on hda, even though it's windows. because i removed it, and then grub no longer came up. when i put it back, it came up. how can i have it removed and still have grub come up?
[04:52] <brian98> EvanIsaac,  sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[04:52] <b-_-d> can someone
[04:52] <sethk> godtvisken, you can make hdb into hda, but simply removing hda won't do it.
[04:52] <brian98> Maybe it's not loaded then
[04:52] <mattva01> Ok, i have a bad situation
[04:53] <dennis_> Dr_willis, I've tried modprobe ohci1394, ieee1394, and sbp2 : then hotplugging the devic
[04:53] <b-_-d> can someone    cat /proc/filesystems | grep reiser4
[04:53] <sethk> godtvisken, you need to reinstall grub onto the MBR, which you can do by booting the live cd or a rescue cd
[04:53] <roflpanda> I'd really like sound to play for more than one prog at once. Oh well, haha.
[04:53] <roflpanda> Multitask!
[04:53] <EvanIsaac> it says it's still installed ?!?!
[04:53] <Audimage> thoreauputic, no i cna't
[04:53] <Audimage> *can't
[04:53] <EvanIsaac> :|:|:||::|::|
[04:53] <sethk> b-_-d, ubuntu supports reiserfs, bugs and all, if that's what you want to know
[04:53] <b-_-d> thanks
[04:53] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:53] <godtvisken> sethk: so does that mean installing grub on hdb?
[04:53] <Audimage> Thoreauputic, think i might be missing a sound cable from my optical device to my sound device?
[04:54] <roflpanda> Dr_wills what kind of sound card do you have?
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Audimage: do you have an analogue ( wired) player ? is there a cable from your player?
[04:54] <roflpanda> I have an onboard via soundcard.
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Audimage: possible
[04:54] <Audimage> thor, lemme check that, that is what i was just thinking
[04:54] <mattva01> we have a apple G3 that we want to install ubuntu on . The system clock is set to 1904 so gnome crashes when you start from live cd
[04:54] <sethk> godtvisken, you can, but it won't do any good.  the bios looks at the mbr only on hda.  some never BIOS have more flexibility, however
[04:54] <EvanIsaac> so there's no way for me to remove them?
[04:54] <b-_-d> i want to use my reiser4 formated disk
[04:54] <Dr_willis> roflpanda,  Audigy2ZS
[04:54] <amicrawle> how do i cp a hold dir and every thing in it
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Audimage: you can choosedigital uotput - this is quite common
[04:54] <roflpanda> I guess Audigy is the only thing that handles that, huh?
[04:54] <roflpanda> XMMS: Underoath - Casting Such A Thin Shadow
[04:55] <sethk> amicrawle, cp -av /somewhere /somewhere/else
[04:55] <Dr_willis> roflpanda,  i imagine about any decent sound card can do it.
[04:55] <mattva01> we cant boot up the mac OS , so is there anyway to change the system clock at startup
[04:55] <surabachi> sethk, i moved the _egg
[04:55] <roflpanda> I have alsamixer and all that installed.
[04:55] <mattva01> or with a bootable disk
[04:55] <surabachi> sethk,  now i got a new error
[04:55] <sethk> amicrawle, the v part makes it noisy, the a part (of -av) makes it copy subdirectories, links, permissions, etc.
[04:55] <EvanIsaac> IS THERE ANY WAY TO REMOVE THE DRIVERS I TRIED TO INSTALL FROM NDISWRAPPER?!?!?!?!?
[04:55] <roflpanda> Dr_willis, i was under the impression you can't.
[04:55] <Audimage> thor, how do i do that
[04:55] <sethk> surabachi, that's progress, I guess. what's the new error?
[04:55] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: stop shouting
[04:55] <roflpanda> Unless you make every device go to alsa instead of that other thing.
[04:55] <sethk> EvanIsaac, drivers are just files, and can be erased.
[04:55] <Dr_willis> roflpanda,  my sb live, and older cards handles it fine. :P
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Audimage: in the app theres usually an option for digital output
[04:56] <roflpanda> Do you have it set up for alsa or esd?
[04:56] <EvanIsaac> if i didn't type in caps, i couldn't express my frustration very well
[04:56] <EvanIsaac> because i've used all my free time all week trying to get this to work
[04:56] <surabachi> sethk,  go back to this link and look at the last post
[04:56] <Asymmetry> i need someone to try and help me figure out why my sata drives arent ordered correctly in the dapper dvd text installer. or any dapper installer for tha tmatter
[04:56] <surabachi> sethk, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[04:56] <EvanIsaac> and i really want this to work
[04:56] <roflpanda> I've spent the last 2 days trying to figure this out. Haha
[04:56] <Dr_willis> roflpanda,  ive not had to set up anything.
[04:56] <sethk> roflpanda, those are not exclusive.  you can be using snd and using alsa
[04:56] <Dr_willis> roflpanda,  it all just worked fine
[04:56] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: I guess you've read the wifi wiki pages, right?
[04:57] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[04:57] <roflpanda> Well whenever I try and play youtube and listen to mp3's, youtube gets no sound but xmms does.
[04:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> and it would be just fine if i had progress, but i have had no progress whatsoever
[04:57] <sethk> surabachi, looks like the same error to me.
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> yes
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> of course i have
[04:57] <roflpanda> I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
[04:57] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: just checking :)
[04:57] <surabachi> sethk,  really?
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> i would like to know how to remove something from ndiswrapper
[04:57] <sjbrown> roflpanda, there's a bug in the flash config
[04:57] <sethk> EvanIsaac, don't panic, it won't get you anywhere
[04:57] <roflpanda> a bugeth?
[04:57] <sethk> surabachi, can't find module named _egg
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> i've been calm all week
[04:57] <sjbrown> roflpanda, google "flash ubuntu sound"
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> and haven't gotten anwhere
[04:58] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: what are you using? Network manager or the standard /etc/network/interfaces stuff?
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> i've tried both
[04:58] <mattva01> can anyone help me?
[04:58] <sethk> EvanIsaac, then type calm letters.  :)  I'm not sure where you are, exactly, but as I already said, you can delete drivers, which is what you most recently asked
[04:58] <sjbrown> it's just a matter of renaming a file or putting in a symlink or something
[04:58] <thedash> I am still having problems with my SATA drive
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> well if it can't detect my wireless after i install the drivers
[04:58] <amicrawle> Dr_wills are the neo-geo  in rom format not bin  becuse mame want .bin i got ,rom
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> obviously i don't need them
[04:58] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: you know that nm only works if you comment out /etc/network/interfaces except loopback, right?
[04:58] <roflpanda> How doth i fix this?
[04:58] <sethk> thedash, of course.  you've done nothing that has any possibility of fixing it.  I did tell you what you need to do, quite a while ago.
[04:58] <surabachi> Sethk, read the last post
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> what is nm?
[04:59] <thedash> a google search of the error returned this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=278603
[04:59] <surabachi> sethk, it now says soemthign about sexy
[04:59] <thoreauputic> network manager
[04:59] <sethk> surabachi, give me the url?
[04:59] <mattva01> can anyone help me? please?
[04:59] <surabachi> sethk, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267486
[04:59] <godtvisken> sethk: so then i really need to make hdb into hda?
[04:59] <thedash> sethk:: by all means, try to explain something that I might understand, and you will vastly improve the possibility of my fixing it
[04:59] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: nm, network manager and nm-applet ( the usual combination
[04:59] <surabachi> sethk, read last post!
[04:59] <sjbrown> thoreauputic, no, it's not.  nm is for extracting symbols from bin files
[05:00] <surabachi> damn
[05:00] <thoreauputic> sjbrown: *sigh* OK - I just used a loose abbreviation
[05:00] <thoreauputic> sjbrown: I meant network manager
[05:00] <roflpanda> hmmm
[05:00] <roflpanda> this isn't working yet.
[05:01] <EvanIsaac> if i'm trying to get wlan0 to come up, do i comment it anyway??
[05:01] <surabachi> sethk,  u see the new error?
[05:01] <sjbrown> roflpanda, did you find the page?
[05:01] <sethk> godtvisken, probably, yes
[05:01] <sethk> surabachi, I did.  the last line says "Import error: no module named _egg"
[05:01] <EvanIsaac> i'd appreciate a response, i've been mild mannered and patient all week
[05:01] <roflpanda> yah i found a page.
[05:02] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: try the following: comment out everything except lo ( loopback), then do   sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart , then nm-applet &
[05:02] <sethk> surabachi, no
[05:02] <roflpanda> but i don't understand any of this. haha
[05:02] <roflpanda> autoaudiosink?
[05:02] <roflpanda> alsasink?
[05:02] <sethk> godtvisken, it's not difficult to do.
[05:02] <sethk> godtvisken, or, just install grub onto the MBR of the current hda
[05:02] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: if it's working nm-applet will animate, and a few seconds later it will associate and get an IP
[05:02] <EvanIsaac> so do i comment out auto lo?
[05:02] <godtvisken> sethk: but i want to take the current hda out, and use it in a different computer
[05:02] <EvanIsaac> and just leave iface lo inet loopback?
[05:03] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: no, that's loopback
[05:03] <roflpanda> i have seen this fix before, but never the autoaudiosink part.
[05:03] <thoreauputic> leave auto lo
[05:03] <sethk> godtvisken, probably you'll have to change it to hda, then.  you'll have to modify your /etc/fstab also
[05:03] <mattva01> we have a apple G3 that we want to install ubuntu on . The system clock is set to 1904 so gnome crashes when you start from live cd
[05:03] <mattva01> we cant boot up the mac OS , so is there anyway to change the system clock at startup
[05:03] <surabachi> sethk,  ur not reading the last post!
[05:03] <sethk> surabachi, sure I am.  I'm reading the last line
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> dbus: no such file or directory
[05:04] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac:  leave the two lo lines
[05:04] <surabachi> sethk, refresh it then
[05:04] <Winter-Soulstice> What is nautilus?
[05:04] <surabachi> sethk,  re fresh the page
[05:04] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac:  sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:04] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: that *has* to be there :)
[05:04] <EvanIsaac> sry forgot space
[05:04] <EvanIsaac> ok it's restarting
[05:04] <EvanIsaac> i think it's done
[05:04] <surabachi> sethk,  cause it shoudl say this now
[05:04] <surabachi> sethk, ImportError: No module named _sexy
[05:05] <godtvisken> sethk: so what should the process be? remove the current hda, put the cable in the right position, then boot into a cd and change my fstab and install grub?
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> so what should i do now?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: Ok when it's restarted , if you don't see the nm-applet in the notification area, type nm-applet &
[05:05] <sethk> godtvisken, yes
[05:05] <roflpanda> Ok for this fix.
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> and what?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: I assume you aren't connected by ehthernet on that machine?
[05:06] <roflpanda> This place doesn't exist for me.
[05:06] <sethk> surabachi, ok, I see it now
[05:06] <sethk> surabachi, find it the same way you found the other one.
[05:06] <surabachi> sethk,  i did and i moved it but it didnt do anythign
[05:06] <sethk> surabachi, there is a # for edgy, you might find better help there for an edgy question.  or you might not.
[05:06] <roflpanda> etc-mozilla-firefox-mozilla-firefoxrc gives me a blank page.
[05:06] <EvanIsaac>  now ihave 2 no network windows
[05:06] <sethk> surabachi, I don't have an edgy machine here.
[05:06] <EvanIsaac> :S
[05:07] <roflpanda> Do I just create this folder or what?
[05:07] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: What do you mean? You mean two applets"
[05:07] <Half-Left> anyway to get Opera for Edgy?
[05:07] <thoreauputic> ?
[05:07] <EvanIsaac> 2 icons
[05:07] <EvanIsaac> and then lo
[05:07] <thoreauputic> right
[05:07] <EvanIsaac> so now what
[05:07] <thoreauputic> where are you seeing lo ?
[05:07] <EvanIsaac> to the right of the no network icons
[05:07] <thoreauputic> ...
[05:07] <thoreauputic> weird
[05:08] <roflpanda> Yah this doesn't exist.
[05:08] <EvanIsaac> when i hover over it it says network connection:lo
[05:08] <surabachi> whast the edgy irc?
[05:08] <lukas> Hey, I'm having some problems booting my computer.  I turn on my computer, and no video comes on the screen.  I've removed everything but video card, cpu, fan, and memory, but still nothing comes on the screen at bootup.  However, the fans are running fine.
[05:08] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: you mean there's anothe ricon that has lo on it?
[05:08] <thoreauputic> *another
[05:08] <EvanIsaac> 2 identical icons that have an exclamation and when you mouseover it says no network connection
[05:08] <amicrawle> where does the bios go in xmess in kmame?
[05:08] <EvanIsaac> and then one to the right of those that says network connection: lo
[05:08] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: hmmm.... try typing  killall nm-applet
[05:08] <amicrawle> sayes not found
[05:09] <rus1> lukas: If nothing at all appears, it's gotta be a hardware problem.
[05:09] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: it should respawn
[05:09] <lukas> rus1: Any channel you would reccommend for hardware people?
[05:09] <voLvo> nx on ubuntu 6.06
[05:09] <rus1> lukas: Not that I know of.
[05:09] <EvanIsaac> that doesn't do anythinh
[05:09] <roflpanda> Yah that doesn't exist for me.
[05:09] <EvanIsaac> i typed
[05:09] <EvanIsaac> killall nm-appled
[05:09] <EvanIsaac> applet
[05:10] <EvanIsaac> and got nothing
[05:10] <voLvo> how should i make it work, i have installed its NXSERVER
[05:10] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: what driver does your card use?
[05:10] <amicrawle> the reason i'm asking these qestion i'v never used mame or xmess befor.
[05:10] <roflpanda> XMMS: Underoath - To Whom It May Concern
[05:10] <amicrawle> i'm a new be to it
[05:10] <EvanIsaac> the filename?
[05:10] <bruenig> roflpanda, turn that off
[05:10] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: no, just - is it fully supported?
[05:10] <roflpanda> It is it's my doin' my bad.
[05:10] <EvanIsaac> according to the ubuntu website
[05:11] <roflpanda> am i suppose to have a ect / mozilla-firefox /mozilla-firefoxrc ?
[05:11] <EvanIsaac> it's on the supported drivers list
[05:11] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: and do you know what it should be? And is it there if you typ  lsmod | grep <yourdriver>
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ?
[05:11] <EvanIsaac> or supported cards list
[05:11] <EvanIsaac> well it told me to install to .inf files
[05:11] <EvanIsaac> 2
[05:12] <simeon> in the help section for java there is a "fakeroot" command but it does not work in terminal
[05:12] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: ah, ndiswrapper - sorry I know nothing about ndiswrapper
[05:12] <simeon> fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[05:12] <EvanIsaac> :|\\\\\\\\
[05:12] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: I suggest you ask on the users maling list
[05:13] <EvanIsaac> is there a non-ndiswrapper thing i can use?
[05:13] <mattva01> can anyone help me? please?
[05:13] <EvanIsaac> or at least not code based?
[05:13] <sivik> any c++ programmers here?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: depends on your card
[05:13] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[05:13] <roflpanda> I figure it might just be best for me to only use one thing for sound at a time.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: I have a broadcom card that uses bcm43xx
[05:14] <roflpanda> I can't figure this out at all.
[05:14] <sivik> thoreauputic, try asking in #bcm-users
[05:14] <sivik> thoreauputic, what kernel?
[05:14] <EvanIsaac> i had to subscribe or something
[05:14] <EvanIsaac> and this is my first time using linux
[05:14] <sivik> thoreauputic, and did you get the firmware from the wl_apsta.o file?
[05:14] <EvanIsaac> so i may just go back to windows
[05:14] <thoreauputic> sivik: no. Mine is working - I'm talking to EvanIsaac
[05:14] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:15] <sivik> thoreauputic, sorry, i am having problem with mine
[05:15] <EvanIsaac> since it's so hard just to get wifi
[05:15] <sivik> thoreauputic, mine works fine with an install of dapper but as soon as i get any packages updated, it doesn't work
[05:15] <thoreauputic> sivik: you know about cafuego's firmware package?
[05:15] <EvanIsaac> but i'll try again tomorrow
[05:15] <cafuego> Yeah, do you?
[05:15] <EvanIsaac> i've been in here all week using all my spare time trying to find this out
[05:15] <shriphani> EvanIsaac, you can use those bcm3xxx
[05:16] <sivik> thoreauputic, i guess i don't
[05:16] <EvanIsaac> bcm3xxx?
[05:16] <EvanIsaac> what's that?
[05:16] <shriphani> wait
[05:16] <thoreauputic> sivik: ah, you might need to downgrade network manager and uninstall gnome-network-manager
[05:16] <sivik> thoreauputic, i don't use either one of those, i just do it from terminal
[05:16] <sivik> i don't have gnome installed from there
[05:16] <thompa> sata drives are a problem
[05:16] <cafuego> http://ubuntu.cafuego.net -> click on bcm43xx in dapper-cafuego
[05:16] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: it's a module/driver for broadcom cards like Apple Airport Extreme
[05:16] <sivik> cafuego, what if i'm not in dapper
[05:17] <shriphani> bcm43xx
[05:17] <cafuego> sivik: Click on edgy-cafuego :-)
[05:17] <sivik> cafuego, thanks
[05:18] <cafuego> sivik: I try to keep that firmware up to date with regards to requirements & features in the actual driver
[05:18] <roflpanda> Well here goes nothing.
[05:18] <thoreauputic> cafuego's firmware packages rock :)
[05:18] <mattva01> we have a apple G3 that we want to install ubuntu on . The system clock is set to 1904 so gnome crashes when you start from live cd
[05:18] <mattva01> we cant boot up the mac OS , so is there anyway to change the system clock at startup
[05:18] <surabachi> sethk, i got a new error again
[05:18] <surabachi> sethk,  i am making pprogress but am stuck now
[05:19] <cafuego> mattva01: login at the console and set the date by hand; then start gnome.
[05:19] <shriphani> EvanIsaac, this is a good guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:19] <sivik> cafuego, cool
[05:19] <sivik> cafuego, i will try that
[05:19] <mattva01> can you log in at the console from the live cd?
[05:19] <vashypooh> Does anyone have some time to help me try to get these ATI drivers working?
[05:20] <EvanIsaac> cafuego, will bcm43xx work with my netgear W111T?
[05:20] <sivik> vashypooh, which card
[05:20] <vashypooh> X800Pro
[05:20] <shriphani> vashypooh, easyubuntu i think can be used to install ati drivers
[05:20] <cafuego> EvanIsaac: What does 'lspci' say about that card?
[05:20] <roflpanda> wait i think sound is working for 2 things at once.
[05:20] <shriphani> cafuego, the link i gave is a good one for broadcom cards
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> what are you looking for in lspci?
[05:21] <vashypooh> Where can i find this easy ubuntu?
[05:21] <cafuego> shriphani: My package is too, as it works just dandy and auto-updates.
[05:21] <cafuego> EvanIsaac: Does it mention 'BCM' anywhere?
[05:22] <echo1> Hi everyone.  I recently upgraded from the 386 kernel to the 686 kernel (on account of having a Pent M).  Everything works except it broke shut down.  No longer does it save my desktop and half the time it just goes blank screen and doesnt do the shut down process or anythign (2.6.12-27-686) (Kubuntu)
[05:22] <shriphani> vashypooh, google for easyubuntu :)
[05:22] <roflpanda> nope still not 2 things at once.
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> don't think so
[05:22] <deathz0r__> hmm
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> it's a USB adapter
[05:22] <deathz0r__> http://www.rebellion-network.net/death/hmm.jpg
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> for wifi
[05:22] <vashypooh> bleh, i was looking for it on the forums tehe
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> and NOTHING has gotten it to work
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> none of the howtos
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> nothing
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> :(
[05:22] <shriphani> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:22] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: do you know the chipset?
[05:23] <EvanIsaac> chipset?
[05:23] <shriphani> To find out if your card has a broadcom chipset run the following command:
[05:23] <shriphani> Code:
[05:23] <shriphani> lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[05:23] <EvanIsaac> intel corporation 440BX/ZX/DX?
[05:23] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: the electronics version it uses
[05:24] <shriphani> wht does that ssay
[05:24] <EvanIsaac> grep:corporation:no such file or directory
[05:24] <hantu> lspci | grep Network
[05:24] <hantu> heh
[05:24] <EvanIsaac> nothing happened
[05:25] <shriphani> EvanIsaac, just type lspci then
[05:25] <hantu> O_o
[05:25] <hantu> lspci then read.
[05:25] <roflpanda> this is getting really annoying.
[05:25] <hantu> er oops sorry shriphani :)
[05:25] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac:  google suggests 440BX/ZX/DX is something in an IBM thinkpad so far...
[05:25] <shriphani> :)
[05:25] <roflpanda> sound should work for more than one thing, end of story.
[05:25] <Goldfisch> I'm shopping to build another PC and plan to load dapper. I need a USB-based wireless NIC and was looking at either the Netgear WG111 or Netgear WG111T. I can't seem to turn up much information in how these two differ from each other. Does anyone have experience with these?
[05:25] <EvanIsaac> this is a dell inspiron 4000
[05:25] <EvanIsaac> don't forget this is a USB wireless adapter
[05:26] <hantu> hah
[05:26] <hantu> lsusb? :P
[05:26] <sethk> EvanIsaac, usb net + wireless = very complex
[05:26] <EvanIsaac> dammit
[05:26] <EvanIsaac> so i've wasted my entire week
[05:26] <sethk> EvanIsaac, you need the USB networking layer, and then the wireless layer on top of that
[05:26] <sethk> EvanIsaac, or underneath that, really.
[05:26] <EvanIsaac> for something complex
[05:26] <EvanIsaac> :|
[05:27] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: yes, but the code you gave doesn't look like a wifi chipset unless i missed something...
[05:27] <EvanIsaac> the howto's looked simple enough
[05:27] <EvanIsaac> they just don't work
[05:27] <sethk> EvanIsaac, I didn't say it is wasted, just that it isn't easy
[05:27] <sethk> EvanIsaac, they are fine for the cases when you don't need them
[05:27] <whurley> anyone here installed ubuntu server yet?
[05:27] <EvanIsaac> i just started using linux for the first time this week
[05:27] <EvanIsaac> :SSS
[05:27] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: it gets easier :)
[05:27] <EvanIsaac> I have wired internet running thru the laptop though
[05:27] <roflpanda> Now I can barely hear sound at all and it's turned all the way up.
[05:27] <sethk> EvanIsaac, actually except for wireless, ubuntu is very easy to configure
[05:27] <EvanIsaac> so that's what you may be seeing
[05:27] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: and then you never want to go back :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:28] <EvanIsaac> but right now
[05:28] <EvanIsaac> I
[05:28] <EvanIsaac> don't
[05:28] <EvanIsaac> like
[05:28] <EvanIsaac> ubuntu
[05:28] <EvanIsaac> :(
[05:28] <Dr_willis> I was about to say how Linux is like S*X.. but this is a faimly channel.. :P
[05:28] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: that's understandable
[05:28] <brian98> EvanIsaac, sethk Wireless is one problem
[05:28] <sethk> whurley, I've installed server, yes, why?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Its easy to do.. but getting good at it takes practice. :)
[05:28] <brian98> EvanIsaac, the reason is that the manafacturers don't make the drivers open source
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Dr_willis: heheh
[05:28] <sethk> Dr_willis, you must be spending time with my ex-wife
[05:28] <brian98> EvanIsaac, so people guess!
[05:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:29] <brian98> EvanIsaac, Like the acx project
[05:29] <sivik> pm Dr_willis
[05:29] <sivik> Dr_willis, we never would have guessed
[05:29] <brian98> EvanIsaac,  Or use ndiswrapper
[05:29] <whurley> sethk: did you have any issues?
[05:29] <roflpanda> Ok, so sound for 2 things at once=works
[05:29] <roflpanda> BUT if I turn it down for one thing, it goes down for both.
[05:29] <EvanIsaac> well if you guys have some time if you find some other way to get me anything through my USB adapter Netgear W111T please email me at EvanStaff@gmail.com
[05:29] <EvanIsaac> because i have to sleep
[05:29] <Goldfisch> Dr_willis: I just saw "White and Nerdy" on youtube.com today! I almost fell out of my chair!!! "The only decision I found was hard was whether I preferred Kirk or Picard."
[05:29] <whurley> sethk: I'm having issues getting the installer to get back "io scheduler cfg registered"
[05:29] <vashypooh> Easy Ubuntu didnt help in any real way with these drivers
[05:29] <EvanIsaac> and i've been using ndiswrapper all this week
[05:30] <jkernsjr> anyone here having any issues w/ networkmanager?
[05:30] <brian98> Would a pcmcia adapter be easier?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Goldfisch,  go buy his new cd.. its a dvd on the other side - with videos.
[05:30] <EvanIsaac> most likely!
[05:30] <brian98> I'm asking the question to thoreauputic
[05:30] <EvanIsaac> thank you all very much for trying to help
[05:30] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: you might get more sleep if you can find a linux compatible wifi card
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Goldfisch,  and Karoke tracks as well. :)
[05:30] <EvanIsaac> yeah i know
[05:30] <yock> Hmmm, it seems worth noting that Python-gtk2 is not resolved correctly on Edgy yet
[05:30] <EvanIsaac> i was going to get a neutral milk hotel shirt :((
[05:30] <cafuego> EvanIsaac: Until you figure out which chipset the wifi adapter uses, you're prolly stuck with ndiswrapper.
[05:30] <EvanIsaac> but this may be more worth it
[05:30] <roflpanda> NMH = win
[05:31] <EvanIsaac> yarly
[05:31] <roflpanda> i just heard them on last.fm for the first time.
[05:31] <Goldfisch> I have been reading a lot today about ndiswrapper and the USB network cards. It appears that 1.8 that comes with dapper isn't new enough. You have to download the source and build that to pull things off.
[05:31] <roflpanda> Yesterday, and I have to say "yum"
[05:31] <shriphani> EvanIsaac, priv me
[05:31] <vashypooh> Can anyone help me with this? ;x
[05:32] <EvanIsaac> why priv?
[05:32] <roflpanda> I guess I got alsa, so I get what I got.
[05:32] <shriphani> i want to see the output of lspci
[05:32] <EvanIsaac> ok
[05:32] <bruenig> !easyubuntu
[05:32] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:32] <gangerli> hi all
[05:32] <Flannel> !tell vashypooh about ati
[05:32] <sethk> Goldfisch, that's interesting.  although I suspect it makes it better but still not quite there.
[05:32] <roflpanda> So, say if i'm listening to mp3's and watching youtube.
[05:32] <roflpanda> if i turn the sound down ON the mp3 player, the sound on youtube goes down too.
[05:32] <vashypooh> I wouldnt be asking for help if i didnt try the stuff on the stie already hehe
[05:33] <sethk> vashypooh, with what?
[05:33] <roflpanda> Is it suppose to do that in alsa?
[05:33] <crimsun> roflpanda: that's intentional.
[05:33] <amicrawle> is there a how to for dummies for xmame?
[05:33] <bruenig> I was more so pointing out the at your own risk
[05:33] <roflpanda> so there's no way to fix it huh?
[05:33] <gangerli> could someone answer a few zero-and-100%-incapable-noob questions?
[05:33] <vashypooh> i cant get DRI or anything working
[05:33] <roflpanda> besides not using alsa.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  the mame program has several web sites and lots of docs
[05:33] <LordTureis> sure, gangerli
[05:33] <LordTureis> I'll try
[05:33] <bruenig> !ask > gangerli
[05:33] <roflpanda> i mean they work at the same time now which is cool, but...
[05:33] <amicrawle> for so one how has never used it
[05:33] <crimsun> roflpanda: using softvol, but that won't work in this case since one uses oss emulation.
[05:34] <gangerli> the thing is, I simply decided to cut ties with the "Other", and switched to ubuntu
[05:34] <gangerli> and I'm managing quite well
[05:34] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  in short.. copy the roms to the right dir.. run xmame  with the right options.
[05:34] <roflpanda> so i'm stuck with having to listen to screamo at high volume while watching youtube huh?
[05:34] <roflpanda> :)
[05:34] <bruenig> roflpanda, close screamo...
[05:34] <roflpanda> haha
[05:34] <gangerli> I can really set up things like my nvidia card, wmvs and things like that, understanding the terminal is not as hard as I tought
[05:35] <roflpanda> I'm using xmms for mp3.
[05:35] <bruenig> close xmms
[05:35] <roflpanda> I like it better than any of the other ones i've seen.
[05:35] <roflpanda> done.
[05:35] <gangerli> but what I cant grasp is building from source
[05:35] <gangerli> how does that work?
[05:35] <bruenig> rhythmbox
[05:35] <LordTureis> sry.  can't help you there.  :(
[05:35] <roflpanda> rhythmbox?
[05:35] <bruenig> gangerli, you only need to build from source when you can't get something from the repos
[05:35] <gangerli> yeah
[05:35] <gangerli> exactly
[05:35] <roflpanda> i found a last-fm deb from a repo.
[05:35] <gangerli> like Xnview, my fav picviewer
[05:36] <bruenig> roflpanda, I prefer rhythmbox
[05:36] <jkernsjr> roflpanda: check out audacious
[05:36] <roflpanda> audacious?
[05:36] <LordTureis> usually you can find a .deb in the forums.  Have you tried there?
[05:36] <LordTureis> to gangerli
[05:36] <roflpanda> OH and I figured out how to get firefox to recognize last fm to play streams.
[05:36] <Goldfisch> I thought that was audacity.
[05:36] <roflpanda> That was pretty cool.
[05:36] <jkernsjr> roflpanda: and for music management check out listen music player http://listengnome.free.fr
[05:37] <EvanIsaac> Host Bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443Bx/ZX/DX Host Bridge (rev 03)
 PCI bridge same thingn
 and then it says agp bridge
 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
 IDS interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI
 it's IDE at the end not ACPI
 USB controller: Intel Corp same thing
[05:37] <roflpanda> I just don't want to have to turn up my music all the way to listen to more than one sound at once.
 Comm controller: Agere Systems WinModem 56K
[05:37] <gangerli> not really. but basically I switched over to linux to learn something from it and I'm simply interested in how compiling works
[05:37] <bruenig> gangerli, well, let me get that see if I can walk you through it
[05:37] <EvanIsaac> please email me at EvanStaff@gmail.com if you know anything that can help me
[05:37] <EvanIsaac> please
[05:37] <EvanIsaac> please
[05:37] <EvanIsaac> please
[05:37] <EvanIsaac> thank you all very much
[05:38] <roflpanda> Yah I feel smarter and like i'm learning something but using this.
[05:38] <roflpanda> "by"
[05:38] <thoreauputic> EvanIsaac: good luck - see you around :)
[05:38] <jkernsjr> audacious http://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page
[05:38] <bruenig> gangerli, did you get the tar.gz?
[05:38] <roflpanda> Oh wait, why don't I try xmms in esd and keep youtube the way it is.
[05:38] <myst> Where xchat stores the logs????
[05:38] <Goldfisch> gangerli: Well, you basically download some foobar.tar.gz file. Then tar xvfz foobar.tar.gz to unpack it. Then go into the folder, and type ./configure to configure it for your system. Then type "make" to build it. Finally, type "sudo make install" to deploy it, and your set! Is that what you were asking?
[05:38] <LordTureis> gtg
[05:38] <roflpanda> myst, i think on an online thing.
[05:39] <roflpanda> i couldn't find them myself.
[05:39] <gangerli> a-ha. however, It is said to be a time consuming procedure. is that true?
[05:39] <bimberi> unfortunately EvanIsaac needed to paste 'lsusb' not 'lspci'
[05:39] <bruenig> gangerli, that won't work for what you have, those are precompiled binaries
[05:39] <brian98> it's the one contant source of problems that keeps coming up
[05:39] <myst> tnx
[05:39] <roflpanda> yah i never understood directions that said
[05:39] <brian98> wireless stuff
[05:40] <roflpanda> "navigate to this folder"
[05:40] <bruenig> gangerli, for xnview, you can either copy over the stuff in bin or you can run the install script
[05:40] <roflpanda> type in ./blahblahblahblah.tar.gz
[05:40] <gangerli> up until now, I experimented with apt-get and broadening my sources.list and such basic stuff
[05:40] <roflpanda> Cause whenever I did that, it couldn't find it.
[05:40] <jkernsjr> roflpanda: also..for last.fm have you seen last.exit http://www.o-hand.com/~iain/last-exit/
[05:40] <bruenig> gangerli, if you want to know how to install that xnview...
[05:40] <gangerli> and I'm just curious, not goal-set ^^
[05:40] <roflpanda> No I haven't seen that yet, I was gonna try it if I couldn't get last.fm to work.
[05:41] <roflpanda> Goooood stuff.
[05:41] <bruenig> gangerli, for xnview, although now you seem disinterested, get the tar.gz, do tar xf whatever.tar.gz, then cd into the directory, then run sudo ./install, and it will install everything in /usr/local/bin
[05:41] <roflpanda> but still, how in the heck do i make it so i don't have to listen to everything so loud to hear 2 things at once?
[05:42] <amicrawle> i though neo-geo roms were huge
[05:42] <roflpanda> neo geo!
[05:42] <amicrawle> like 512mb
[05:42] <gangerli> ...hmmm I see.
[05:42] <matthew_w> xbox
[05:42] <matthew_w> doh
[05:42] <amicrawle> at least they werein the arcade
[05:42] <roflpanda> I thought ubuntu wasn't going to fit on a cd-r
[05:42] <jkernsjr> roflpanda:  as far as I have figured out linux is still not all there for multiple input audio streams
[05:42] <roflpanda> So I hear.
[05:43] <gangerli> I'm gonna experiment with it.
[05:43] <roflpanda> that really sucks big time.
[05:43] <roflpanda> well, i got sound in 2 different apps, i'm kinda happy.
[05:43] <gangerli> however, there is one thing I'd lke to compile first
[05:43] <roflpanda> maybe i just need to start listening to quieter music?
[05:43] <roflpanda> :D
[05:43] <gangerli> is there any multi-tree file browser written for linux? the only thing I'm acually missing is TotalCom
[05:43] <jkernsjr> well..I can get things to play in a media player and in firefox at the same time but not two different audio apps
[05:44] <roflpanda> I can get xmms and youtube
[05:44] <shriphani> multi tree
[05:44] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  a large rom can be a few mb. :P
[05:44] <shriphani> maybe xfe
[05:44] <jkernsjr> one is loud and the other soft?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  the mame chd files are Huge 1gb+
[05:44] <roflpanda> but like i said, the sound has to be like incredibly loud to do so.
[05:44] <roflpanda> well if i turn down the volume ON xmms it turns it down on youtube too.
[05:44] <jkernsjr> i didnt see your original question/discussion
[05:45] <jkernsjr> oh
[05:45] <roflpanda> i couldn't figure out the 2 sound thing.
[05:45] <roflpanda> been looking it up for hours at a time for the past 2 days.
[05:45] <jkernsjr> your tuning down the volume on the xmms app not on the volume applet?
[05:45] <roflpanda> Yah
[05:45] <Graig> so i just installed epiphany, and the side mouse (forward backward) buttons dont work.  any thoughts about this? or do they just not work in epiphany?
[05:45] <jkernsjr> dont think that has been an issue for me
[05:45] <roflpanda> And when i turn it down on the xmms app it goes down on youtube too.
[05:46] <roflpanda> It's crazzzzaahh
[05:46] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: try switching the volume from pcm to master or vice versa
[05:46] <jkernsjr> the think I HATE is that more and more websites are going flash and were still stuck with the old version that doesnt work for a bunch of them
[05:46] <roflpanda> how do i do that?
[05:46] <roflpanda> alsamixer?
[05:47] <roflpanda> actually it's on master right now, should i switch to pcm then?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: no, in the app ( xmms for example) there's a choice
[05:47] <Dr_willis> jkernsjr,  or it CAN work for them.. but they just demand the latest flash.. even tho they dont really need it.
[05:47] <gangerli> well, thx anyway....I'll drop by in case I get in trouble with this new world. take care everyone
[05:47] <gangerli> byebye
[05:47] <roflpanda> oooohhh i see.
[05:47] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: IIRC you can choose to control either channel/setting
[05:47] <amicrawle> what do you mean a few mb
[05:48] <amicrawle> in the arcade they were they said on the cart  512mb
[05:48] <roflpanda> Ok so where is that?
[05:48] <jkernsjr> Dr_willis: yea..cant wait for Adobe to release the 9.0? version for linux
[05:48] <roflpanda> I see input plugins, and output
[05:48] <roflpanda> the option to switch it to alsa
[05:48] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: I don't have xmms here atm but I think Options-Prefernces
[05:48] <roflpanda> but not that other thing.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  you sure it was 512 megabytes or megabits.. or course it depends on the carts also.
[05:49] <amicrawle> like nam1975
[05:49] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: click around a bit - that's what I do anyway :)
[05:49] <lannis> 
[05:49] <amicrawle> the games were very good looking
[05:49] <roflpanda> nope not there. haha
[05:49] <thoreauputic> lannis: umm
[05:49] <lannis> Ubuntu5.10,FAT32NTFS
[05:49] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  i perfer Mr. DO. :)
[05:49] <melon> anybody know of a "dvd to 3gp" converter for ubuntu? (off the top of their heads)
[05:50] <amicrawle> what is Mr,DO
[05:50] <lannis> umm,what does it mean?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  you are a clown running around.. sort of a combo of PacMan and DigDug
[05:50] <roflpanda> oh wait.
[05:50] <roflpanda> DUH
[05:50] <thoreauputic> lannis: why are you spamming the channel with weird characters?
[05:50] <roflpanda> I found it.
[05:50] <amicrawle> no
[05:50] <amicrawle> i can run stella
[05:50] <amicrawle> zsnes
[05:51] <jkernsjr> roflpanda: do a test and let us know if you can control the volumes independently now
[05:51] <amicrawle> and vrjag
[05:51] <root> thoreauputic: he is writing in a different language/encoding
[05:51] <roflpanda> ok uno momento
[05:51] <thoreauputic> root: that's what I was wondering
[05:51] <root> thoreauputic: has to do with ubuntu 5.10, FAT32 and NTFS, as you can see
[05:51] <thoreauputic> root: yes I saw that much :)
[05:51] <boris55> any one familiar with LTSP 5.0 with the new edgy eft?
[05:52] <lannis> I just sent a message in chinese,can't you see?
[05:52] <sivik> boris55, what is LTSP?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> lannis: what is your nationality?
[05:52] <lannis> china
[05:52] <boris55> linux terminal server project.
[05:52] <thoreauputic> lannis: I have utf 8 and it didn't look like chinese here
[05:52] <amicrawle> Dr_wills relly i don't know any thing about mame  heard of it
[05:52] <sivik> boris55, ok, i'm not familiar with it
[05:52] <thoreauputic> !cn
[05:52] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:52] <boris55> like windows terminal services.
[05:52] <sivik> i don't like windows terminal services
[05:52] <lannis> OK!I know
[05:52] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  its pretty much the Grandfather of all the arcade emulators.
[05:53] <amicrawle> ok
[05:53] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  right now my Mame rom collextion stands at around 16gb. :P
[05:53] <roflpanda> Nope, now youtube doesn't work?
[05:53] <amicrawle> can i look?
[05:53] <melon> pretty much?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  thats not counting all the .chd files which are often 1gb+ each. I got most all them from torrent sites
[05:53] <roflpanda> oh wait, nope still same with both.
[05:53] <Doodluv> got a cmedia cm8738 that is producing no sound, any suggestions
[05:53] <roflpanda> still have to turn the sound up super loud to hear in either.
[05:53] <amicrawle> it torrent illigal?
[05:54] <amicrawle> or is it abandon ware?
[05:54] <sivik> amicrawle, only if you get caught
[05:54] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  its a grey area. :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> ive bought many of the mame roms from some sites/packages as well.
[05:54] <jkernsjr> roflpanda: so has it always been the fact that you had to crank the volume to hear anything?
[05:54] <jkernsjr> roflpanda: I take it you have the system volume all the way up?
[05:55] <roflpanda> no i can hear sound at medium volume.
[05:55] <amicrawle> u can by them illigal?
[05:55] <roflpanda> but in order for them both to work the sound has to be like FULL blast.
[05:55] <euxneks> I just want to say Ubuntu has allowed me to use my computer
[05:55] <euxneks> And you guys rock
[05:55] <sivik> euxneks, yes we know that
[05:55] <jkernsjr> roflpanda: huh..not sure
[05:56] <lannis> I can't talk with chinese,but i don't like english! OK! I just leave a moment1
[05:57] <roflpanda> yah i'll have to research that one.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> hmm. a lot of the emulator packages are gone from the repos. :(
[05:57] <roflpanda> i guess probably because they are all on asla.
[05:57] <shriphani> roflpanda, does apple ship to india ?
[05:57] <sivik> Dr_willis, thats no fun
[05:57] <roflpanda> alsa
[05:57] <roflpanda> i have no idea.
[05:57] <shriphani> umm
[05:57] <Dr_willis> sivik,  most of them were WAY out of date anyway.
[05:57] <amicrawle> i see hotline has lot of emu sites and servers
[05:57] <sivik> Dr_willis, but zsnes still works
[05:58] <thoreauputic> lannis was using a different charcater set as well as talking chinese I guess - in UTF-8 it looked like spam :)
[05:58] <euxneks> ok.. does anyone here have a PSP with firmware 2.81? I'm having problems with encoding video for it.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> sivik,  thats a goodie. :P - i just compiled the latest VICE last night
[05:58] <sivik> Dr_willis, ? whats a goodie and whats VICE?
[05:58] <sivik> Dr_willis, zsnes is the goodie?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> sivik,  zsnes = oldie but a goodie.. vice = an Older goodie. :)
[05:59] <sivik> Dr_willis, oh ok
[05:59] <Dr_willis> snex9x - nice also.
[05:59] <sivik> Dr_willis, what does vice do?  is it an emulator as well?
[06:00] <jkernsjr> roflpanda: Im actually not able to get youtube to work at all currently....there using flash for their player as well
[06:00] <Dr_willis> sivik,  C64 emulator
[06:00] <Mark1412> Can anyone help me with videos?
[06:00] <sivik> Dr_willis, what is C64
[06:00] <sivik> Mark1412, whats the problem
[06:00] <Dr_willis> sivik,  Commodore C64 - an 8 bit computer
[06:00] <Mark1412> Anyone know how to play 3GP video files
[06:01] <sivik> Dr_willis, oh, sorry, i'm not that old
[06:01] <Dr_willis> sivik,  you youngster! :)
[06:01] <Mark1412> It is video that has been uploaded through my cell phone
[06:01] <kholerabbis> how do I open a ms publisher .pub?
[06:01] <sivik> Dr_willis, how old are you?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I got computers older then sivik ! :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> 36
[06:01] <sivik> Dr_willis, so you have computers older than 22?
[06:01] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: a lot of the stuff on youtube is actually .flv which plays in ffplay ( part of ffmpeg) but you have to download it to play it that way
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Pull your pants  Up you Hoodlem! :P
[06:01] <sivik> Dr_willis, lol
[06:01] <Mark1412> No-one knows?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> sivik, id have to check the wiki for the age of the C64 - but its  proberly over 20 yr old..
[06:02] <sivik> Dr_willis, ok
[06:02] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: there are firefox plugins that let you download the flash/flash video
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I used them when i was a teenager..
[06:02] <THX-1138> How do i edit the drive name used icon on the desktop?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: or rather, extensions
[06:02] <jkernsjr> thoreauputic: how do you know which is which and why would they not just use the same player across all videos?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: flashplayer plays both
[06:02] <sivik> Dr_willis, its two years older than i am, it came out in august 1982
[06:02] <kothz> !fglrx
[06:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:02] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: i have a firefox extension - hang on I'll look
[06:03] <boris55> !nvidia
[06:03] <jkernsjr> thoreauputic: is that the opensource flashplayer?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> sivik,  i got a vic-20 and a timex sinclare also. :P
[06:03] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: no
[06:03] <roflpanda> is it the free-flash?
[06:03] <roflpanda> you have to redirect something or other i don't remember.
[06:03] <Mark1412> sivik, know any G3p players?
[06:03] <sivik> Dr_willis, wow
[06:03] <sivik> Mark1412, nope
[06:03] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: try the ff extensions unplug and video downloader
[06:03] <roflpanda> I just looked it up, and now I can't find it again.
[06:04] <Mark1412> ty anyway
[06:04] <jkernsjr> thoreauputic: I think I added some source to my apt list and am on a flash player not in vanilla..gotta check that out
[06:04] <kholerabbis> anyone know how/if I can open a publisher .pub document?
[06:04] <roflpanda> I was just watching gumby. haha
[06:04] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: ffplay is part of the ffmpeg package, but mplayer will also play flv
[06:04] <jkernsjr> Ive got mplayer
[06:05] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: then try videodownloader and/or unplug ectensions for firefox
[06:05] <thoreauputic> *extensions
[06:05] <roflpanda> well i've got sound, i guess i should be happy since windoze decided it hates sound and all things with it.
[06:05] <JoseStefan> has anyone installed flashplugin-nonfree recently?
[06:05] <roflpanda> did you get an error message?
[06:05] <roflpanda> about installing because the upstream had changed?
[06:05] <thoreauputic> jkernsjr: not ideal as they aren't plugins, but better than not being able to play at all
[06:06] <roflpanda> i had that problem recently with easyubuntu
[06:06] <JoseStefan> rolfpanda, yep, i've been trying to install it for a few days now (excluding backports)
[06:06] <roflpanda> Try it again.
[06:07] <roflpanda> For some reason I did it again and the second time it worked.
[06:07] <rwscold> Hi there I have a question about a tv tuner I have an ATI Tv wonder elite and I cant seem to get the drivers installed any help would be great
[06:07] <roflpanda> Although I'm sure there's some document about it somewhere.
[06:07] <abortd> anyone know how to change the font size inside of programs?
[06:07] <abortd> like the main window
[06:07] <abortd> i did it yesterday but forgot how :|
[06:08] <roflpanda> i can't remember where i saw it, i had to reinstall ubuntu because i screwed up firefox and it wouldn't start in applications.
[06:08] <roflpanda> i had to use terminal to get it to start.
[06:08] <JoseStefan> i still get "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"
[06:09] <roflpanda> Yah, you might have to do the whole apt-get thing yourself.
[06:09] <roflpanda> easyubuntu crashed on me yesterday for some odd reason.
[06:10] <JoseStefan> bug 62060
[06:10] <roflpanda> because trying to download and install java and freeflash on my own wasn't working.
[06:10] <rwscold> Hi there I have a question about a tv tuner I have an ATI Tv wonder elite and I cant seem to get the drivers installed any help would be great
[06:11] <sivik> JoseStefan, try running sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <abortd> anyone know how to change the font size inside of a program like adept or xchat?
[06:11] <JoseStefan> sivik, i have
[06:11] <roflpanda> I guess I should research this sound thing.
[06:11] <sivik> JoseStefan, ok
[06:11] <sivik> roflpanda, what a wonderful idea
[06:11] <roflpanda> i was hoping someone would have an answer. haha
[06:11] <JoseStefan> sivik, it's adobe's fault. The package is the same from release date, but it depends on 3rd party files located on the adobe server
[06:12] <sivik> JoseStefan, ok
[06:12] <sivik> !flash
[06:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:12] <JoseStefan> afaik, flashplugin-nonfree is broken for any new install of it, unless you use the backports
[06:13] <roflpanda> !sound
[06:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:13] <abortd> !font
[06:13] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:13] <roflpanda> dmixplugin!
[06:13] <euxneks> hrmm
[06:13] <abortd> :(
[06:13] <euxneks> !psp
[06:13] <ubotu> psp: Perl Server Pages - Web scripting environment runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-3 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:13] <roflpanda> I haven't tried that yet.
[06:13] <euxneks> damn
[06:13] <euxneks> !ffmpeg
[06:13] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3833 kB, installed size 9808 kB
[06:13] <euxneks> !x264
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x264 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <euxneks> crud
[06:14] <sivik> !x368
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x368 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <sivik> !x386
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <sivik> euxneks, what are you trying to find?
[06:14] <euxneks> how to encode video for a psp
[06:14] <euxneks> =(
[06:14] <euxneks> been very unsuccessful for about a week now
[06:14] <euxneks> FW 2.81
[06:15] <euxneks> err.. Firmware 2.81
[06:15] <rwscold> Hi there I have a question about a tv tuner I have an ATI Tv wonder elite and I cant seem to get the drivers installed any help would be great
[06:15] <roflpanda> hmm that didn't solve anything.,
[06:16] <Gumby> does anyone know which file samba users are stored in
[06:16] <Flannel> euxneks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108255
[06:17] <^Down> how do I install the english language?
[06:19] <Audimage> how do i get codecs to work in totem...dvd and mp3 for example. I have downloaded the dvd and mp3 codecs (i can play dvds and mp3s in different apps, just not in totem),
[06:20] <euxneks> Flannel: yeah I tried that.. I'll try it again though - just to be sure
[06:20] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[06:20] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:20] <Healot> !info totem-xine
[06:20] <euxneks> I've been very tired lately.. (mainly staying up trying to encode video)
[06:20] <ubotu> totem-xine: A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1043 kB, installed size 2512 kB
[06:20] <roflpanda> I stayed up til 5am last night reinstalling ubuntu.
[06:21] <TuX> hi
[06:21] <Audimage> healot, that doesen't help me
[06:21] <Aaron_Mason> hey all... does anybody know how to check the total space on a filesystem without mounting it?
[06:22] <Healot> Audimage: it will help you install the following packages, as listed previously
[06:22] <roflpanda> Oh yah, also I have 2 hd's and one is still nfts or whatever and I can't read it.
[06:22] <Audimage> aaron: system>administration>disks
[06:22] <Audimage> healot, i have, but totem still doesen't play dvds or mp3s
[06:22] <Aaron_Mason> Audimage: I meant on command line
[06:22] <Aaron_Mason> sorry
[06:23] <roflpanda> And well, considering I'm a heavy music downloader I guess it would be nice to have extra space.
[06:23] <Healot> Audimage: install libxine-extracodecs and totem-xine, honey
[06:23] <abortd> anyone know how to change the font size inside of a program like adept or xchat?
[06:24] <roflpanda> You have to enable something, in the preferences menu to do so I think.
[06:24] <abortd> its a setting that sets for every program i cant remember though
[06:24] <abortd> nah not konversation
[06:24] <abortd> i mean all programs all together
[06:27] <knapper> can anyone tell me if there is such a thing has a kubuntu unstable repository? I'm looking for a repo that contains the unstable version of kwin-baghira.
[06:30] <w30> !error_log file permissions
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error_log file permissions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <adam> i need help compiling and installing a .tar.gz file. How do I do it?
[06:31] <euxneks> you have to untar it first
[06:31] <adam> extract?
[06:31] <euxneks> yeah
[06:31] <euxneks> have you done something like that before?
[06:32] <none> tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[06:32] <roflpanda> !sound
[06:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:32] <euxneks> it might be better to try to find the software in synaptic first
[06:32] <mempf> why does the installation of nvidia drivers (not from repos) require the removal of restricted-modules?
[06:32] <none> cd whateverdir
[06:32] <none> ./configure
[06:32] <none> make
[06:32] <none> make install
[06:32] <euxneks> ^  what he said
[06:32] <none> dont forget to pray while typing
[06:33] <euxneks> however, it's good to use synaptic becuase it's nice and easy and not so frightening for new users.. =)
[06:33] <euxneks> haha
[06:33] <wickedpuppy> actually make and make install would require sudo ...
[06:33] <euxneks> true
[06:33] <adam> ok .tar.gz extraced/untared
[06:33] <adam> extracted*
[06:33] <euxneks> have you tried searching for your software on synaptic first though?
[06:33] <adam> ya
[06:33] <euxneks> oh ok
[06:33] <wickedpuppy> what is it that you are trying to install ?
[06:33] <euxneks> then yeah what none said
[06:34] <Audimage> although more "frightening" APT does a much better job in my opinion
[06:34] <euxneks> well yeah
[06:34] <euxneks> baby steps though eh?
[06:35] <euxneks> however, you have to start somewhere
[06:35] <euxneks> =)
[06:35] <Audimage> i am only 2-3 weeks old in linux time, and at first the terminal was a bit overwhelming...but it is easy to get used to, and once you have some sort of idea about how things work, it is pretty nice
[06:35] <rwscold> Hi there I have a question about a tv tuner I have an ATI Tv wonder elite and I cant seem to get the drivers installed any help would be great
[06:35] <none> well i killed ubuntu twice trying to dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy eft
[06:35] <adam> libmtp. adds limited MTP support to linux so i can use my Creative Zen. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=158745
[06:35] <thoreauputic> add/remove programs is actually quite good in a basic sort of way
[06:35] <none> seems like a search and replace in the sources.list and dist-upgrade isnt ehnough
[06:36] <ciphex> hey guys, I'm having trouble with an audio card. It's seems to be incorrectly identified by lspci: 0000:00:14.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
[06:36] <euxneks> and sometimes compiling from source gets you some up-to-date features
[06:36] <adam> ok it's extraced now what do i do to compile?
[06:36] <adam> extracted*
[06:36] <thoreauputic> euxneks: yes, i always compile the latest version of fluxbox :)
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> adam, scroll up pls :P
[06:37] <adam> k
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> adam, do you have build-essential installed
[06:37] <euxneks> hrm.. fluxbox
[06:37] <thoreauputic> euxneks: don't speak ill of fluxbox ! I have a love affair with fluxbox!
[06:38] <euxneks> No.. I had to look it up =)
[06:38] <thoreauputic> heh
[06:38] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:38] <thoreauputic> euxneks: http://fluxbox.org
[06:38] <wickedpuppy> fluxbox is son of blackbox .. or daughter of
[06:38] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: yes pretty much
[06:38] <euxneks> yeah I just found that .. =)
[06:39] <adam> i don't see where u said how to compile
[06:39] <ciphex> any ideas on how i could find out why an Adio card is being seen as VGA compatible....hopefully get it recognized correctly as Sound Blaster Live!...?
[06:39] <ciphex> Audio*
[06:39] <thoreauputic> adam: install build-essential first if you haven't already, then cd to the directory the extracted tarball made
[06:39] <euxneks> adam:  cd into the directory you just made
[06:39] <w30> can anyone help me get my cups error_log file to be owned by root and lpadmin instead of lp?
[06:39] <euxneks> ooh good point
[06:40] <yock> I have locale problems
[06:40] <thoreauputic> adam: its always good to read the README file in there, if there is one
[06:41] <thoreauputic> adam: and if an older version of the app exists in the Ubuntu repos, run  sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[06:41] <abortd> anyone know how to change the font size inside of a program like adept or xchat?
[06:41] <thoreauputic> adam: that can save a lot of googling and wasted time
[06:42] <thoreauputic> abortd: adept is qt - I think there's a qt-config package that lets you do that. xchat is gtk2 so it has the gnome options
[06:42] <yock> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[06:42] <yock> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[06:42] <yock> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[06:42] <abortd> thoreauputic: but i want to do it for every program i did it last night with something
[06:43] <digitalpariah> hello?
[06:43] <yock> I need help understanding what this means and how to fix it
[06:43] <thoreauputic> abortd: well, you need a different tool for gtk2 and qt
[06:43] <abortd> what can i do for qt then?
[06:43] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: I thought it was some font configuration in gnome-control-center  ?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> yock: what isgenerating that error?
[06:44] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: for gnome apps yes
[06:44] <yock> thoreauputic: perl apparently
[06:44] <digitalpariah> how do you ctivate disk manager in Edgy Eft 6.10?
[06:44] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: ahh
[06:44] <yock> It started doing this as I prepared for an upgrade to Edgy
[06:44] <matt_> can someone tell me how to make my flash sound comeback, after a while sound goes on flash movies
[06:44] <Xenguy> abortd: kcontrol  ?
[06:44] <yock> before I started downloading and installing packages that is
[06:45] <yock> now that the upgrade is complete I still have the problem
[06:45] <w30> abortd, you can do some stuff with System-Prefernces-Font in the Gnome menu
[06:45] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: abortd System Preferences - Font for gnome
[06:45] <roflpanda> how do I switch firefox back to esd?
[06:45] <roflpanda> i think i figured out my problem.
[06:45] <roflpanda> haha
[06:45] <^Down> how do I install the english language package?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: for qt, try apt-cache search qt config
[06:46] <thoreauputic> ah
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !qt3-qtconfig
[06:46] <ubotu> qt3-qtconfig: The Qt3 Configuration Application. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 320 kB
[06:47] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: interesting; no kcontrol either that I can see
[06:47] <roflpanda> yarg! where is it?!? haha
[06:47] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: I think you can do it in kcontrol too - but if you only have a few qt apps that's overkill
[06:48] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: kcontrol looks like gnome's gnome-control-center
[06:48] <Xenguy> for KDE/QT
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: yes more or less - but kcontrol is much more complex really
[06:49] <Xenguy> hmm
[06:49] <rbd> hey guys, what's the command to create the rc symlinks to a script in /etc/init.d (so that it starts automatically on startup and stops on shutdown for a given runlevel)
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: you can get lost in kcontrol ;)
[06:50] <thoreauputic> rbd: update-rc.d
[06:50] <rbd> thanks
[06:50] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: yeah, configuration takes stubborn patience sometimes ;-)
[06:50] <thoreauputic> rbd: you need to read the man - it's pretty straightforward
[06:51] <matt_> how can i get my flash sound back
[06:51] <Xenguy> rbd: I have used 'rcconf' sometimes
[06:51] <thoreauputic> matt_: what caused you to lose it?
[06:52] <matt_> i dont know, it works for a while then after a few vids it goes
[06:53] <matt_> i am at youtube, i tested regular sound and that works fine
[06:55] <w30> can anyone help me get my cups error_log file to be owned by root and lpadmin instead of lp? Something keeps changing it to lp.
[06:55] <amicrawle> how do i remove a dir in root
[06:55] <amicrawle> i did a rm  and give me errors
[06:56] <amicrawle> hello
[06:56] <amicrawle> any body here?
[06:56] <w30> amicrawle, rm -R works fo me.
[06:57] <w30> amicrawle, the minus R is for recursive
[06:57] <amicrawle> ok now i need to make a dir in that same place
[06:58] <amicrawle> never mind
[06:58] <roflpanda> what's the command to change none to aoss in firefox?
[06:59] <roflpanda> that you put in the terminal, i screwed up and can't get firefox to open cause i changed it to esd.
[06:59] <w30> amicrawle, do a mkdir nameofdirectorythatyouwant  but be in the place you want to make it or put the full path in
[06:59] <surface> amicrawle:  sudo rm -rf
[07:00] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a reason why my dapper thinkpad randomly freezes on me?
[07:00] <Davo_Dinkum> It's done it daily for the past week
[07:00] <surface> Davo_Dinkum:  because it is too cold?
[07:00] <Davo_Dinkum> hah
[07:00] <Davo_Dinkum> a
[07:00] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: it goes in a configuration file - you need to edit that ( can't remember the directory and file though, sorry)
[07:00] <Davo_Dinkum> im serious
[07:00] <roflpanda> yah i know that.
[07:00] <surface> Davo_Dinkum:  did u use gaim? or wireless?
[07:01] <Davo_Dinkum> i have to pull the plug on it, it wont respond at all
[07:01] <roflpanda> but i mean, i can't even get online to find it.
[07:01] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: google aoss firefox and you'll find it  ( put linus or ubuntu inthe search terms )
[07:01] <thoreauputic> ah
[07:01] <thoreauputic> catch 22
[07:01] <Davo_Dinkum> surface: gaim via ethernet (i have wireless, cant figure out how to set it up)
[07:01] <w30> Davo_Dinkum, I solved my freeze problems with more swap, swap should be memory size in my opinion
[07:01] <Davo_Dinkum> why?
[07:01] <roflpanda> i can't google it.
[07:01] <roflpanda> hahaha
[07:01] <roflpanda> i can't even get on firefox
[07:02] <Davo_Dinkum> w30: how can i increase swap then?
[07:02] <Davo_Dinkum> only got 56mb ram
[07:02] <surface> Davo_Dinkum:  via ethernet also freeze ? can u still ctrl +alt F2 to go to term?
[07:02] <Davo_Dinkum> *256!
[07:02] <Davo_Dinkum> surface: didnt try ctrl alt F2
[07:03] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc then put  FIREFOX_DSP=aoss
[07:03] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: courtesy of google :)
[07:03] <surface> Davo_Dinkum:  just want to check is it total freeze or ur X freeze.
[07:03] <roflpanda> thanks haha
[07:03] <Davo_Dinkum> surface: i use it plugged mostly, so i can use gaim over ethernet
[07:03] <thoreauputic> roflpanda: :)
[07:03] <euxneks> OMFG
[07:03] <w30> Davo_Dinkum, if you have extra partitions delete one of those and make you swap partition bigger or else add a swap file.
[07:03] <euxneks> IT WORKS
[07:03] <euxneks> Flannel: thanks so much
[07:03] <surface> Davo_Dinkum:  can't get ur plugged thingy, wat is tat?
[07:04] <euxneks> that worked!
[07:04] <roflpanda> you are the best.
[07:04] <roflpanda> I'm back online!
[07:04] <Davo_Dinkum> surface: plugged into power+ethernet i mean
[07:04] <roflpanda> HURRAY haha
[07:04] <Davo_Dinkum> w30: i have whatever partitions the default dapper install puts on there
[07:04] <roflpanda> oh i found a link to allow software mixing with esd and aoss
[07:04] <wayfarer> Hello, I have a problem with my SBLive card: no sound. I had the same problem with my previous distro, and forgot hot I got it working
[07:05] <roflpanda> it's on the ubuntu website (wiki or whatever) but...
[07:05] <roflpanda> Or, I guess I didn't.
[07:06] <anmar> Hello Guys. Any idea who shoujld I talk to regarding live CDs
[07:06] <roflpanda> Whoever just helped me is my new best friend.
[07:06] <roflpanda> We'll be bffs forever.
[07:06] <Flannel> anmar: just ask your question, if anyone knows the answer they'll help
[07:06] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a guide on the forums how to increase swap size?
[07:07] <w30> Davo_Dinkum, you can open Gparted or QTParted and check swap size on the swap partition or else check in proc.
[07:07] <anmar> Flannel: sure. I want to remaster Ubuntu with custom changes and modifications. is there a guide to do that. ?
[07:07] <Flannel> anmar: sure.  You want the liveCD or the Alternate CD?
[07:07] <anmar> Flannel: using the LiveCD as the base of my project
[07:07] <surface> Davo_Dinkum:  did u try google it? i think i might be easy to get, if put ubuntu keyword
[07:07] <w30> Davo_Dinkum, cat /proc/swaps is the command to use
[07:08] <Flannel> anmar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[07:08] <flipfone> question. after upgrading my kernel lik 18 times grub has grown rather large. before i edit it, should i uninstall some of the older kernels?
[07:08] <Davo_Dinkum> gparted
[07:08] <Davo_Dinkum> oops
[07:08] <anmar> Flannel: dude.... this is awsome... Thanks a million
[07:09] <Flannel> flipfone: yeah, just uninstall them with apt (or whatever frontend), their grub entries will go away
[07:09] <flipfone> Flannel thx a million!
[07:11] <wayfarer> Has anyone an idea on getting SBlive soundcard to work?
[07:11] <ciphex> anybody familiar enough with hardware recognition to help me out with a sound car problem? standard SB Live card
[07:11] <ciphex> whoa
[07:11] <ciphex> hey dude
[07:11] <wayfarer> weird
[07:11] <ciphex> for real
[07:11] <amicrawle> DR_wills  need help
[07:11] <ciphex> whuts the trouble with yours?
[07:12] <wayfarer> no sound
[07:12] <grimx> can i install Windows on a Linux machine
[07:12] <amicrawle> just extracted  tito roms  from a disk
[07:12] <ciphex> what does lspci tell you?
[07:12] <wayfarer> I got it to work under my previous distro, but forgot how I did it
[07:12] <amicrawle> mame sees them but says there bad
[07:12] <ciphex> about the SB Live
[07:13] <ciphex> i had this card running under badger but it's not working in drake
[07:13] <roflpanda> ok interesting.
[07:13] <roflpanda> i changed xmms to esd
[07:13] <grimx> ive downloade an Windows.iso and trying to write it to a cd using Gnome Baker.. but having trouble
[07:13] <roflpanda> and am running firefox with aoss
[07:13] <roflpanda> now i can have youtube loud, and my music down low.
[07:14] <roflpanda> :)
[07:14] <DJJUM> is edgy safe-ish yet?
[07:14] <ciphex> wayfarer: have you run "lspci" in in your terminal to see if the card is being recognized?
[07:14] <wayfarer> ciphex what is lspci?
[07:14] <w30> ciphex, try this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[07:14] <hantu> !edgy
[07:14] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:15] <wayfarer> oh, ok
[07:15] <grimx> need help with writting to cd with Gnome Baker
[07:16] <w30> ciphex, you driver needs to be:snd-emu10k1= EMU10K1 (SB Live!)
[07:16] <roflpanda> Moral of this story kids?
[07:16] <roflpanda> READ EVERYTHING YOU CAN
[07:16] <wayfarer> yep, it sees it, but it also shows the hateful on-board cmedia chip
[07:17] <ciphex> wayfarer you may try disabling on board sound in the BIOS
[07:17] <grimx> can i install Windows in place of Linux???
[07:17] <ciphex> i read earlier that it can interfere and BIOS disabling cleared things up for some people
[07:18] <surface> grimx:  yes with vmware or qemu
[07:18] <Madpilot> grimx, what type of CD are you trying to burn?
[07:18] <wayfarer> ciphex I thought I did that, but I'll check again. I didn't have to before.
[07:18] <grimx> i downloaded a windows.iso
[07:18] <grimx> want to write it to cd with Gnome Baker
[07:18] <surface> grimx:  windows.iso its live cd ??
[07:19] <surface> grimx:  no need, just right click and select burn
[07:19] <w30> grimx, yes just apt-get XP-6.06-Bill.deb
[07:19] <grimx> no install 30 day trial
[07:19] <Madpilot> grimx, ISOs can be burned from Ubuntu's file manager - just right-click, choose Burn To Disc
[07:19] <amicrawle> need mame help please
[07:19] <ciphex> w30: i will check out that page. im not sure if it's my driver though... lspci reports: 0000:00:14.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
[07:19] <jackeline__> anybody speak spanish?
[07:19] <DJJUM> hola
[07:19] <Zahrber> Si
[07:19] <amicrawle> i got the right files  but it sayes in right
[07:20] <grimx>  oh thanx Madpilot
[07:20] <wayfarer> hmmm, when I type in alsamixer in terminal, it shows only sblive
[07:20] <Madpilot> !es
[07:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:20] <Gnupgp> hello everyone.......
[07:20] <Gnupgp> who know's anything about getting a irq 9 message when installing ubuntu?
[07:21] <Gnupgp> Its a dual processor board, with an intel chipset
[07:21] <grimx> so when its done just reboot?? Madpilot
[07:22] <b14ck73425> i need to find a song can anyone help?
[07:22] <b14ck73425> "Money, Success, Fame, Glamour (remix)" - Fleix Da Housecat vs. Pop Tarts
[07:22] <Gnupgp> song?
[07:22] <b14ck73425> from pary monster
[07:22] <Madpilot> grimx, probably. Although why anyone would voluntarily inflict Windows on themselves is beyond me...
[07:22] <b14ck73425> party monster
[07:22] <b14ck73425> *
[07:22] <grimx> the media .. thats why
[07:22] <Gnupgp> why would you come to a ubuntu forum for a song?
[07:22] <Madpilot> b14ck73425, #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of question, thanks
[07:23] <Gnupgp> so I take it no one is familiar with irq 9 hardward conflicts when installing ubuntu?
[07:23] <Gnupgp> *hardware , excuse me
[07:24] <flipfone> Flannel i tried this sudo apt-get remove kernel-2.6.15-26-k7 and it errors and says can find that package? any ideas?
[07:25] <grimx> plus Madpilot  when i'm on Google video search and try to run a video i can't hear it  but i can see it
[07:26] <Madpilot> grimx, known issue; that's a Flash problem.
[07:26] <grimx> oh
[07:27] <grimx> i have the uBuntu cd if i want to come back to Linux
[07:27] <vashypooh> Can someone help me get my x800 3d working? I have ran through the guides and checked forums and am sorta stumped.
[07:27] <wayfarer> I went into alsamixer and turned up all the sliders, but still no sound. Not even with the headphones plugged directly in the cd drive
[07:28] <Flannel> flipfone: it's linux-image-version-version-etc-etc
[07:28] <roflpanda> hurraaaaayyyy
[07:28] <Flannel> flipfone: and, make sure you include the --purge
[07:28] <roflpanda> what kinda soundcard do you have?
[07:29] <wayfarer> sblive
[07:29] <flipfone> Flannel thank you again
[07:29] <Gnupgp> anyone know about irq 9?
[07:29] <roflpanda> you know, isn't that one that actually is suppose to work right in there?
[07:29] <Gnupgp> Trying to install ubuntu and getting an irq 9 error and stalling on mount root file system
[07:30] <wayfarer> It worked under my previous distro, but I forgot what I did to make it work
[07:30] <OmniD> How do I get controllers to work?
[07:31] <|thunder> sup all, how do I change the 'type' of an entry in gconfeditor?  There is a few settings set as integer that should be string, and I cant change them because the combobox to do so is grery'd.
[07:31] <roflpanda> <---listening to music faintly while watching you tube.
[07:31] <roflpanda> hahaha
[07:32] <userbn> hola
[07:34] <DJAdmiral> Emergency help needed! I have a 40 gig hard disk and went with dual boot giving 30 gigs of it to ubuntu and all of a sudden I find out that ubuntu has only 6 gigs and windoze took the remaining 24 gigs - HELP!
[07:34] <DJAdmiral> I need to get these 24 gigs back to ubuntu!
[07:34] <richiefrich> !wifi
[07:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:35] <DJAdmiral> Anybody? please?
[07:35] <hockyhair> is it possible to turn on direct rendering with a ati card without recompiling the kernal
[07:35] <DJAdmiral> I have a 40 gig hard disk and went with dual boot giving 30 gigs of it to ubuntu and all of a sudden I find out that ubuntu has only 6 gigs and windoze took the remaining 24 gigs - HELP!
[07:36] <DJAdmiral> hey HeavyThinker
[07:36] <DJAdmiral> think you could help me out with this weird phenomenon?
[07:37] <hockyhair> << trying to enable dri without recompiling the kernal please help
[07:37] <wayfarer> I think the card is muted, but I can't see how to get it unmuted
[07:38] <roflpanda> download alsa
[07:38] <roflpanda> use alsamixer
[07:38] <DJAdmiral> ANYBODY? Please? this is an emergency!
[07:38] <none_> DJAdmiral,  use Gparted and shirnk ur winblowz partitioon and grow ur ubuntu one
[07:38] <none_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/
[07:38] <wayfarer> I ran alsamixer in terminal, but it looks like there is a )) under the master slider.
[07:38] <DJAdmiral> none_: easy to do with GParted?
[07:38] <wayfarer> I mean 00
[07:39] <wwwdotcom> Hello, I have finally burned a copy of ubuntu to disk and I am trying to now install it on an old imac g3.  When I boot the computer it loads 9.1 OS
[07:39] <roflpanda> so go to it and press up
[07:39] <none_> yes
[07:39] <Flannel> wwwdotcom: you need to change your boot order to boot to the CD instead of the HD first
[07:39] <DJAdmiral> wwwdotcom: your bios boot settings are not set up correctly
[07:39] <MistaED> wwwdotcom: holding the c button down?
[07:40] <wwwdotcom> ok
[07:40] <DJAdmiral> none_: Thanks a million! I'll be back in a bit if this works
[07:40] <wwwdotcom> How do I change the boot settings on a mac?
[07:40] <roflpanda> Yah that took me a minute too. Haha
[07:40] <roflpanda> I was like "it should load up" and was read to be really angry about it.
[07:40] <MistaED> wwwdotcom: just hold down c to boot from cdrom
[07:41] <wwwdotcom> ok
[07:41] <DJAdmiral> !gparted
[07:41] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:41] <DJAdmiral> praise the lord
[07:41] <none_> lol
[07:42] <DJAdmiral> I am SAVED!!! *bends down to his knees and prays for blessings to be showered on none_*
[07:43] <DJAdmiral> Thank you so much - really
[07:43] <none_> np
[07:43] <wwwdotcom> oh this is awesome
[07:43] <wwwdotcom> LOL
[07:44] <DJAdmiral> brb while i go show windoze who's boss.
[07:45] <wayfarer> Ok, while I'm figuring that out, how about telling me hoto get my  nVidia Corporation NV15DDR [GeForce2 Ti]  running?
[07:47] <foo> Hmm, when I do hostname it returns name ... but when I do hostname -f it returns the hostname + fqdn ... how can I modify the fqdn? I did hostname newhost.something.com ... but now I do hostname and it says newhost.something.com ... how can I fix this?
[07:47] <wayfarer> I dl'd the drivers, but can't get it to work
[07:54] <screechnigcat> just finished upgrading to edgy. this time i decided to go it alone (without automatix)
[07:54] <wayfarer> I found something on the ubuntu site, I'll try that
[07:55] <roflpanda> isn't edgy still under development?
[07:55] <Flannel> roflpanda: right, beta came out today.
[07:55] <Xnix> does anyone know if there are suspend2 kernel builds for edgy anywhere?
[07:55] <screechnigcat> i was searching for java in the repos and i found to versions - Sun Java 5 and Blackdown Java 1.4 - whats's the difference and which should i install ?
[07:56] <Mentholz> Are there beta screenshots someh
[07:56] <Mentholz> where
[07:56] <Flannel> #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[07:56] <Flannel> screechnigcat: you probably want the sun version
[07:56] <screechnigcat> Flannel: Whats the diff ?
[07:56] <roflpanda> yah but, i'd want to wait until things were finalized myself.
[07:56] <ciphex> does anyone have drake running on a box with a working SB Live! audio card.... if so could you share your lspci and lsmod listings for the correct setup?
[07:57] <Flannel> screechnigcat: one is Sun's official version, the other (blackdown) is an independant development effort, it doesn't have full compatability, and doesn't work with some programs
[07:57] <agenteo> anybody knows a repository to add vim7 to the current xubuntu? thanks
[07:57] <roflpanda> now i have to find out how to sync flash in firefox.
[07:57] <roflpanda> cause flash+totally not synced
[07:57] <screechnigcat> Flannel: ok thanks. will get sun java
[07:59] <Mentholz> I want to use Ubuntu fulltime is this possible?
[07:59] <roflpanda> yes
[07:59] <wwwdotcom> is it supposed to go blank when installing from the cd?
[07:59] <screechnigcat> Mentholz: if u love linux it is
[08:00] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: no
[08:00] <roflpanda> are people using more than one sec?
[08:00] <roflpanda> err sn
[08:00] <screechnigcat> whats a "sn" ?
[08:00] <wwwdotcom> It stalls at "configuring power management" and then goes blank, and I can get a cursor in the upper left
[08:01] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: are u able to reach the desktop ?
[08:01] <wwwdotcom> screech, how would I do that?
[08:01] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: were did you get your cd ? shipit ?
[08:02] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: are you using a live cd or a text based installer ?
[08:02] <Mentholz> I like Windows I just dont like the fact I feel like a puppet with Microsofts hand up my A$$. I think windows is more clean cut then windows I just love the philosophy behind linux and opensource. I have a dele
[08:02] <Mentholz> +ma
[08:02] <wwwdotcom> screeching, I have a burned cd of the .iso file
[08:03] <Mentholz> then linux*
[08:03] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: is the ISO a live cd or a text based installer cd ?
[08:03] <Mentholz> bad england
[08:03] <wwwdotcom> screeching, how do I find that out?
[08:03] <Asc> wwwdotcom: I tend to recommend the alternate install CD because fewer things can go wrong.
[08:03] <wwwdotcom> Asc, I have no clue on the difference
[08:04] <Asc> Mentholz: I recommend trying Linux, but keeping a windows install handy in case you need it.
[08:04] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: if u see nothing but text and no GUI and cursor and all then its a text based
[08:04] <w30> Mentholz, I left MSWindows years ago and my hemoroids don't bother me any more. ;=)
[08:04] <wwwdotcom> screeching, then it is text based, looks like dos, but I can't seem to feed it any commands
[08:04] <wwwdotcom> screeching, is there something I can do from this point?
[08:05] <Asc> Too much information, man ;p
[08:05] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: wow ! text based instalers are actually having problems ? try rebooting man
[08:05] <wwwdotcom> screeching, if I reboot, then 9.1 loads
[08:05] <screechnigcat> 9.1 ?????/
[08:06] <screechnigcat> whats 9.1 ?
[08:06] <wwwdotcom> screeching, mac os9.1
[08:06] <Asc> Mac OS?
[08:06] <wwwdotcom> yes, I am trying to change the os
[08:06] <screechnigcat> mac user huh ? and u never upgraded to OS X ?
[08:06] <Diego> Aren't they up to 10.6 or something?
[08:06] <roflpanda> How do I sync flash videos?
[08:06] <screechnigcat> anyways, did u get a PowerPc ISO ?
[08:06] <Davo_Dinkum> 10.4.7 currently
[08:06] <Asc> Well, ctrl-option-c-d will make it boot from the CD i think.
[08:06] <Davo_Dinkum> 10.5 coming soon
[08:07] <wwwdotcom> screeching, I am a windows user who got this cheapo mac for 20 bucks, and I thought I would turn it into a music player with linux program
[08:07] <Davo_Dinkum> what mac?
[08:07] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: try what Asc told you
[08:07] <roflpanda> !flash
[08:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:07] <screechnigcat> !fonts
[08:07] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[08:07] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[08:08] <wwwdotcom> Asc, it boots from the CD, and it appears to start installing, but then it stalls at power management
[08:08] <wwwdotcom> and that's when the blank screen appears
[08:08] <Davo_Dinkum> which mac wwwdotcom?
[08:08] <Asc> Eh, itunes is better than any of the linux music players I've seen.  So long as you're not trying to use any formats it doesn't support.
[08:08] <wwwdotcom> Davo, powerpc g3
[08:08] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: did u get a PowerPC ISO ?
[08:09] <wwwdotcom> screeching I believe so, let me get the address
[08:09] <Davo_Dinkum> itunes is bloated
[08:09] <wwwdotcom> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso
[08:09] <roflpanda> I like xmms
[08:09] <wwwdotcom> that's what I got
[08:09] <roflpanda> it reminds me of winamp
[08:09] <Davo_Dinkum> that should work wwwdotcom
[08:09] <nocti> wwwdotcom, what's the powerpc iso?
[08:09] <wwwdotcom> yea, it looked like it was
[08:10] <wwwdotcom> nocti, sorry, I don't understand that question
[08:10] <Davo_Dinkum> wwwdotcom: hold down C to boot from CD
[08:10] <wwwdotcom> Davo, I have done that already, and it installed but then stalled after it got to power management
[08:10] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: do what Davo_Dinkum suggested
[08:10] <CSWookie> I'm having a weird problems.  I installed ubuntu, and things were working fine, but I'm having difficulty with some (not all) curses-based programs.
[08:10] <roflpanda> how is edgy so far?
[08:10] <nocti> wwwdotcom, what does it do? is it ubuntu with mac de?
[08:10] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: oh u mean the install finished and ur having probelms booting ?
[08:11] <roflpanda> i wanna know, this is all riding on me keeping ubuntu
[08:11] <wwwdotcom> nocti, I don't know what "mac de" means
[08:11] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: its ok. aint that much of a diff
[08:11] <roflpanda> hopefully they get on the ball with the whole sound thing.
[08:11] <kraut> moin
[08:11] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: what sound thing ?
[08:11] <Asc> I hate winamp's playlist support.  I'm using banshee even though it's slow and doesn't do m4a, just for the itunes stype
[08:11] <wwwdotcom> screeching, ok, I put the cd it, I load it up, and then I press enter.  It says "boot: live", it loads up "ubuntu" in the center of the screen, then it proceeds to install things.
[08:11] <wwwdotcom> When it gets to power managaement, it stalls.
[08:11] <wwwdotcom> and then the screen blanks out.
[08:11] <CSWookie> Like, the ubuntu setup program and mutt are off kilter, but irssi is fine.
[08:12] <roflpanda> 2 apps not being able to play sound at once.
[08:12] <Asc> *type playlists
[08:12] <roflpanda> but i figured it out.
[08:12] <roflpanda> it's backwards, but it'll do.
[08:12] <agenteo> anybody knows a repository to add vim7 to the current xubuntu? thanks
[08:12] <nocti> wwwdotcom, oh it's ubuntu for the mac, dumb me :) thought it was a new WM or something :)
[08:12] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: never isntalled ubuntu on a mac bfor. so i cant help u much. is there a #ubuntu-mac channel or something guys ?
[08:13] <roflpanda> i need to find the penny arcade channel.
[08:13] <roflpanda> haha
[08:13] <harisund> Is anybody here using a Ubuntu box as a router? I want to know why my clients behind the Ubuntu box are unable to access IRC?
[08:13] <roflpanda> router maybe? port fowarding?
[08:13] <Asc> wwwdotcom: it sounds a bit like the CD is bad, but that's just a guess
[08:13] <roflpanda> i had so much trouble with that stupid port fowarding bullcrap.
[08:13] <harisund> roflpanda: port forwarding works fine.
[08:14] <roflpanda> hmm.
[08:14] <harisund> roflpanda: What port forwarding would I need to do to get something like IRC working?
[08:14] <roflpanda> i actually had trouble with xchat the first day i had ubuntu
[08:14] <roflpanda> i left it up, and it kicked me off.
[08:14] <roflpanda> well you might have to get into your router and foward some port.
[08:14] <screechnigcat> any other recommended font packages other than msttcorefonts ?
[08:14] <rwscold> Hi guys anyone know anything about tv tuners????? specifically ati tv wonders?
[08:14] <roflpanda> oh wait.
[08:15] <Healot> rwscold: i would if i have that tuner :-
[08:15] <harisund> roflpanda: hmmm... actually Linux acts as an awesome router .. I have had no problems with it whatsoever....
[08:15] <rwscold> healot what tuner do u have?
[08:15] <roflpanda> Well I'm not having trouble obviously now.
[08:15] <roflpanda> But xchat didn't like me leaving it up for some reason.
[08:16] <harisund> roflpanda: actually I have an IRSSI session on screen 24x7 ...
[08:16] <Healot> none :0
[08:16] <harisund> IRSSI - command line IRC client .. you familiar with that?
[08:16] <rwscold> oh
[08:16] <rwscold> well its killing me trying to install this one
[08:16] <Healot> i watch tv with a TV :)
[08:16] <screechnigcat> lol
[08:16] <rwscold> well i want it as a dvr
[08:16] <Healot> i do video recording with my mac
[08:16] <screechnigcat> rwscold: i tried too. and then i gave up
[08:17] <screechnigcat> rwscold: now my tv tuner card is just rotting inside my cabinet
[08:17] <rwscold> what card?
[08:17] <Healot> it might a hassle now, but next year i hope ati will provide some kind of binary driver of all-in-wonder
[08:17] <screechnigcat> rwscold: ASUS i think. i dont kno beyond that
[08:17] <Mentholz> Is Ubuntu very stable?
[08:17] <Healot> rwscold: tried the ati all-in-wonder driver yet?
[08:17] <screechnigcat> Mentholz: VERY
[08:18] <rwscold> its not an all in wonder
[08:18] <Healot> use at own risk though
[08:18] <harisund> Mentholz: as stable as you want it to be ..
[08:18] <harisund> Mentholz: what do you intend to run Ubuntu for?
[08:18] <rwscold> its a TV WONDER ELITE ha
[08:18] <Mentholz> Windows Replacement
[08:18] <Healot> rwscold: yes, the driver of tv wonder is included i think
[08:18] <adam> i need help figuring out some errors in compiling. here's the two errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25142/  I can't find these packages anywhere.
[08:18] <screechnigcat> Mentholz: Perfect choice
[08:18] <rwscold> where do i find that driver?
[08:18] <Healot> ati.com
[08:19] <rwscold> ok
[08:19] <roflpanda> i have konversation now.
[08:19] <rwscold> let me try worth a shot atleast
[08:19] <roflpanda> i like it
[08:19] <screechnigcat> GAIM sucks for IRC
[08:19] <roflpanda> SURE DOES
[08:19] <harisund> Mentholz: are you running Windows currently? You might be better off preparing yourself first, before jumping in and then complaining later on ... though there might not be much to complain about :)
[08:19] <Healot> rwscold: don't ask for support though, rather experimental...
[08:19] <harisund> screechnigcat: it sure does. I agree.
[08:19] <Mentholz> I run XP home.
[08:19] <roflpanda> It wouldn't let me sign in, kept signing me in under the wrong name even though I had the right one up.,
[08:19] <harisund> screechnigcat: gaim just isn't meant for it. Goes against the Unix principle of 'do one thing and do it right'
[08:20] <Asc> Mentholz: As an operating system it's great.  But it's not uncommon for people to run into peculiar problems (usually hardware related) with just about any version of Linux.
[08:20] <Mentholz> thanks
[08:20] <harisund> Mentholz: how would you rate your level of expertise with Windows?
[08:20] <screechnigcat> Mentholz: ADVICE - keep XP and use Linux on a separate partition. if u love Linux that much then, consider ditching XO
[08:20] <Mentholz> expert
[08:20] <adam> anyone know what and where I can get "libgnomeui-2.0" and "gtk+-2.0" packages?
[08:20] <Mentholz> Ive been using it since dos 6.22
[08:20] <Mentholz> 3.11
[08:20] <rwscold> healot haha i cant get support anyways nobody really seems to address my specific card
[08:20] <Mentholz> the good old days.
[08:20] <Asc> Mentholz: do you have a spare partition or drive that you could put Linux on?
[08:20] <harisund> Mentholz: ok .. then you know how to 'troubleshoot' when things go wrong ... good ..
[08:20] <Mentholz> yeah
[08:21] <Healot> oops my bad... those are windows drivers
[08:21] <adam> windows 3.11 was awesome
[08:21] <Healot> rwscold: it's really ati's fault
[08:21] <screechnigcat> harisund: if he knows enuff to get on an IRC channel bfor using linux, then he knows enuff to use it.
[08:21] <harisund> hmmm... my earliest Windows was Win98, and earliest Linux was RH 6 I think :) ..
[08:21] <rwscold> Healot I agree but there is a way
[08:21] <harisund> good logic screechnigcat ... indeed.
[08:22] <Healot> !wifi
[08:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:22] <screechnigcat> harisund: not me though. i used to think IRC was the place where the big baddies (the devs) used to hang out. i was scared to shitt
[08:22] <roflpanda> I thought I would have to make everything on ubuntu/linux myself.
[08:23] <roflpanda> Like build everything I use by hand.
[08:23] <screechnigcat> ROFL
[08:23] <roflpanda> yah srsly.
[08:23] <roflpanda> i always avoided irc, like the plague.
[08:23] <harisund> roflpanda: I would suggest you try Gentoo .. you can literlally 'make' everything yourself .. after './configure' perhaps :D
[08:23] <roflpanda> oh no it's better this way, harisund.
[08:23] <imbrandon> big baddies ?
[08:23] <harisund> roflpanda: yeah I know. Just kidding ;-)
[08:23] <roflpanda> i know nothing about compiling or building.
[08:23] <roflpanda> hahah
[08:23] <roflpanda> :)
[08:24] <screechnigcat> i was a 10 year old what did u expect ?
[08:24] <twb> Anyone know why Ubuntu apparently fails to get past grub when I replace my trusty Radeon 9000 with a "Fire GL2"?
[08:24] <roflpanda> my computer had irc on it, and i never figured out how.
[08:24] <roflpanda> my laptop that is.
[08:24] <harisund> roflpanda: computer had irc on it? You mean an IRC client?
[08:24] <screechnigcat> i agree
[08:24] <Fujitsu> Neither am I, I hope :P
[08:24] <roflpanda> yah
[08:24] <roflpanda> It had mIRC on it.
[08:24] <adam> i need help with two errors i get when compiling a sourceforge program. i need "libgnomeui-2.0" and "gtk+-2.0" packages, and they aren't in Adaptec so IDK where to find them
[08:24] <roflpanda> I never used it until last year.
[08:25] <twb> adam: `adaptec'?
[08:25] <screechnigcat> i never used IRC until a week ago
[08:25] <imbrandon> adam, try packages.ubuntu.com ( and i think you mean adept )
[08:25] <harisund> adam are you familiar with the command line?
[08:25] <adam> synaptec*
[08:25] <roflpanda> Then when I had my Mac, I couldn't find anything that worked for me.
[08:25] <roflpanda> So I tried bitchx i think, and didn't like it.
[08:25] <Fujitsu> adam: Install libgtk2.0-dev and libgnomeui-dev.
[08:25] <roflpanda> And then about a month ago, i was like I R IRC
[08:25] <adam> not very much yet.
[08:25] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: Really ? i thought mac's "just work" ?
[08:25] <roflpanda> I <3 IRC alot.
[08:25] <harisund> adam: do what Fujitsu told you . that might work
[08:25] <twb> adam: apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:25] <roflpanda> Hahah Mac's suck.
[08:26] <Fujitsu> harisund, it will work :)
[08:26] <roflpanda> Well no.
[08:26] <Madpilot> roflpanda & others - #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat, please
[08:26] <roflpanda> They are alright, but if you don't have the latest os you are screwed with programs.
[08:26] <eexpress> hi, i compiled a wine 0.9.22, and now uninstall it, and install the 0.9.17(deb). but the default execute of wine is (/usr/local/bin/wine), how can i modify this to directlly path.
[08:26] <twb> adam: apt-get install libgnomeui-dev
[08:26] <screechnigcat> Madpilot: OK
[08:26] <twb> adam: those are the two package names you need.
[08:26] <harisund> correction: adam, try what Fujitsu said (install libgtk2.0-dev and libgnomeui-dev using whatever program you use for installing/searching packages)
[08:27] <harisund> by the way adam, which source forge program are you compiling? Perhaps you might want to look into a build-dep option ..
[08:28] <Naked_Snake> When I get Ubuntu installed, will I be able to run wine?
[08:28] <twb> Naked_Snake: if you install wine, yes.
[08:28] <Naked_Snake> Ok
[08:28] <putri> hey
[08:28] <Naked_Snake> I guess I'll tackle that when I get it
[08:29] <Naked_Snake> I've never used Ubuntu or Linux before, but when they offer free CDs shipped to your house, that's a pretty good deal :-D
[08:29] <screechnigcat> Naked_Snake: But if u want to run mainly windows software. then i suggest u get Microsoft Windows XP
[08:29] <Naked_Snake> I got 3 Ubuntu (PC, 64 and Mac) and 2 Kubuntu CDs (PC and 64) coming my way :-D
[08:29] <harisund> Naked_Snake: what do you intend to run Wine with?
[08:29] <Naked_Snake> ?
[08:29] <Naked_Snake> Um, specs?
[08:29] <twb> Naked_Snake: certainly notepad.exe and winmine.exe work fine for me with Ubuntu 6.06
[08:29] <Naked_Snake> Is that what you mean?
[08:30] <Naked_Snake> O_o
[08:30] <harisund> Naked_Snake: I meant which Windows applications do you intend to run with Wine?
[08:30] <Fujitsu> Naked_Snake, applications, I believe, not specs.
[08:30] <twb> Naked_Snake: note that wine only works on Ubuntu/x86, not Ubuntu/PPC.
[08:30] <screechnigcat> Naked_Snake: what kind of software do u want to run under wine ?
[08:30] <cpk2> Naked_Snake: what do you need to run that you need wine?
[08:30] <Naked_Snake> Really?
[08:30] <Naked_Snake> Um, games
[08:30] <roflpanda> Is it possible to run mIRC with wine?
[08:30] <twb> Games do not work well under Wine.
[08:30] <cpk2> twb: ???
[08:30] <Fujitsu> roflpanda, yes, but why would you want to?
[08:30] <Naked_Snake> Oh
[08:30] <Fujitsu> twb, some do.
[08:30] <Naked_Snake> mIRC as well, yes
[08:30] <roflpanda> I like mIRC
[08:30] <Naked_Snake> AIM, Winamp, etc.
[08:30] <twb> Well, some do, most don't.
[08:30] <screechnigcat> Naked_Snake: get Transgaming Cedega
[08:30] <DarkMageZ> Naked_Snake, tho, quake4 & unreal tournament 2004 are available for linux
[08:30] <Naked_Snake> Also, Doom
[08:30] <cpk2> there are plenty of gaims that run fine with wine/cedega
[08:30] <Naked_Snake> Doom is open source anyway
[08:31] <harisund> Naked_Snake: trust me, you have good substitutes for each of that .. for games however, I do not know ...
[08:31] <twb> Naked_Snake: there are Linux equivalents of Winamp, AIM and mIRC that are better in every way.
[08:31] <Naked_Snake> :-/
[08:31] <wwwdotcom> screeching, I think I found the problem.  When you install, you use the command "live", but there is also "live-powerpc".  I am trying that now
[08:31] <Naked_Snake> Heh
[08:31] <Naked_Snake> I guess
[08:31] <roflpanda> mIRC will always be my <3
[08:31] <screechnigcat> Naked_Snake: AIM and Winamp have linux replacements. if ur not going to use even them, then i dont see the point of u using linux
[08:31] <cpk2> Naked_Snake: there are plenty of programs that are just like winamp and aim
[08:31] <DarkMageZ> roflpanda, try xchat :P
[08:31] <twb> screechnigcat: hear, hear.
[08:31] <roflpanda> Hahah
[08:31] <roflpanda> Been there done that.
[08:31] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: ok. good luck
[08:31] <Naked_Snake> k, I guess so
[08:31] <roflpanda> xchat confused me.
[08:31] <Naked_Snake> I gues I'll check 'em out
[08:32] <Naked_Snake> guess*
[08:32] <shriphani> guys can someone tell me about a live cd that gives me just bash
[08:32] <roflpanda> hey someone else in sd!
[08:32] <marc> What do I need to install to be able to view all available wireless networks?  Whether secured or unsecured?
[08:32] <Naked_Snake> I wonder if there is any free dial-up? :-P
[08:32] <roflpanda> but how do i run wine in the first place?
[08:32] <roflpanda> i mean you apt-get obviously.
[08:32] <Healot> drink it
[08:32] <cpk2> marc: nothing, just do iwlist scan
[08:32] <shriphani> roflpanda, wine PATH
[08:32] <roflpanda> hahah
[08:32] <Healot> !info wine
[08:32] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[08:32] <roflpanda> wine path like wine mirc.exe or something?
[08:32] <harisund> marc if you are comfortable with the command line, you could scan the networks using 'iwlist $interface scan' where $interface is eth1,wlan0 or whatever
[08:32] <Fujitsu> !wine
[08:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:32] <shriphani> yes
[08:32] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: install winetools and follow the instructions
[08:33] <marc> Thanks
[08:33] <roflpanda> do they show up in apps or do you have to command line to find it?
[08:33] <shriphani> roflpanda, sudo apt-get install wine
[08:33] <roflpanda> is that the right one? i read somewhere that's an older version or something.
[08:34] <shriphani> add the repos to your sources.list
[08:34] <Healot> ubuntu's wine is way old
[08:34] <marc> is there a gnome prog like kwifi scan?
[08:34] <Healot> old wine taste better and expensive: )
[08:34] <shriphani> Healot, budgetdedicated.com has the newer versions i think
[08:34] <roflpanda> Something about wineHQ for newer version or something.
[08:35] <THX-1138> Is there any program like torsmo or conky?
[08:35] <screechnigcat> just add the budgeticated repo to get the latest wine versions
[08:35] <Fujitsu> THX-1138, what do those programs do?
[08:35] <roflpanda> i should try it, what harm can it do?
[08:35] <roflpanda> haha
[08:35] <marc> harisund, is there a gnome program like kwifi?
[08:35] <rwscold> ok well i am back anyone know anything about setting up tv tuners under ubuntu?
[08:36] <screechnigcat> marc : network-manager is your best bet
[08:36] <roflpanda> how do you uninstall something like that without destroying your computer because of dependencies?
[08:36] <shriphani> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:36] <THX-1138> System monitors like gkrellem - + translucency. - alas conky and torsmo aren't in the ubuntu repo.
[08:36] <marc> screechnigcat, ok
[08:36] <shriphani> roflpanda, sudo aptitude remove {insert program here}
[08:36] <shriphani> roflpanda, that link has the wine repos
[08:36] <THX-1138> Fujitus - here is the link http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[08:37] <foo> How can I create a system user but chroot him in his home directory?
[08:38] <Fujitsu> THX-1138, I can see conky in the repos here...
[08:38] <shriphani> roflpanda, did you get the repos ?
[08:38] <OmniD> Okay my computer is unable to see the photos on my camera
[08:39] <OmniD> Any suggestions?
[08:39] <screechnigcat> power it on ?
[08:39] <OmniD> It's on
[08:39] <OmniD> been on
[08:40] <Fujitsu> OmniD, what do you mean it can't see the photos? Can it see the camera?
[08:40] <shriphani> OmniD, you can use gthumb to import photos
[08:40] <OmniD> when you import
[08:40] <THX-1138> Fujitsu - it IS in universe.
[08:40] <OmniD> it says 'no images found'
[08:40] <shriphani> hmm i cant help then
[08:40] <OmniD> it very clearly has images on it though
[08:40] <Fujitsu> THX-1138, it is, yes.
[08:40] <screechnigcat> never had i problem with my Digicam
[08:40] <OmniD> I wish it would just use the USB dealie
[08:40] <OmniD> and I could browse it
[08:41] <screechnigcat> OmniD : instead of pluging in your camera, y dont u take out the flash storage in your camera and try directly with that
[08:41] <OmniD> I don't use external flash storage
[08:41] <screechnigcat> OmniD: of course for that, you'd need a suitable drive
[08:41] <THX-1138> Fujitsu - give torsmo a look also.
[08:42] <Fujitsu> THX-1138, it's not there, but I see conky is based on it.
[08:42] <screechnigcat> OmniD: i kno u dont. but your camera does. (if it has any shame)
[08:42] <shriphani> OmniD, you sure the media is in the camera ?
[08:43] <shriphani> like the floppy or the sd card or whatever
[08:43] <OmniD> It's internal flash memory
[08:43] <boarder2006> Does anyone have a good recommendation for a bt client for Ubuntu?
[08:43] <roflpanda> ok
[08:43] <screechnigcat> OmniD: isnt that removable ?
[08:43] <roflpanda> how do i get wine tools?
[08:43] <shriphani> boarder2006, bittorrent ?
[08:43] <roflpanda> apt-get install winetools?
[08:43] <boarder2006> yeah, sorry
[08:43] <screechnigcat> no
[08:43] <roflpanda> i just dl'ed and installed wine
[08:43] <screechnigcat> roflpanda : wait a sec
[08:44] <shriphani> by default it wont appear in the apps though
[08:44] <Naked_Snake> Will Ubuntu support my SD/MMC/MS/MS-PRO/XC and CF/MICRODRIVE integrated drives?
[08:44] <Fujitsu> Naked_Snake, in a laptop?
[08:44] <Naked_Snake> No, desktop
[08:44] <roflpanda> i wish more things appeared in the apps.
[08:44] <screechnigcat> Naked_Snake: it supports mine
[08:44] <Tomcat_> Naked_Snake: Usually yes.
[08:44] <Naked_Snake> I take tons of pics with my digicam
[08:44] <roflpanda> it's hard trying to find everything.
[08:44] <Fujitsu> Naked_Snake, maybe, no easy way to tell.
[08:44] <shriphani> Naked_Snake, i had this mp3 player which could play sd cards etc. now i use that for reading such media
[08:44] <Naked_Snake> Tons
[08:44] <Naked_Snake> screechnigcat : sweet
[08:44] <Tomcat_> Naked_Snake: Download the LiveCD and try out.
[08:45] <shriphani> boarder2006, do you see bittorrent in the apps ?
[08:45] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: use this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=howto+install+wine
[08:45] <boarder2006> yeah, i was thinking something other than the default
[08:45] <shriphani> boarder2006, you can ?
[08:45] <shriphani> co
[08:45] <shriphani> ol
[08:45] <screechnigcat> boarder2006: TRY KTORRENT OR qtTORRENT
[08:45] <Naked_Snake> Tomcat_ : if I had Roadrunner still, maybe
[08:45] <Naked_Snake> I have AOL
[08:45] <boarder2006> yeah, its there
[08:46] <Fujitsu> screechnigcat, what about gnome-btdownload?
[08:46] <Naked_Snake> 6 month free trial
[08:46] <shriphani> azureus is good
[08:46] <Fujitsu> shriphani, that's highly subjective.
[08:46] <Tomcat_> Naked_Snake: You can have the CD sent to you too... free of charge. But it'll take a couple of months unfortunately. ;)
[08:46] <screechnigcat> Fujitsu: I wouldnt kno abt it. i never used the default. always used uTorrent under wine
[08:47] <THX-1138> erm - How do you get aol on linux?
[08:47] <Naked_Snake> Tomcat_ : way ahead of ya ;)
[08:47] <screechnigcat> Tomcat_: couple of months ? i got it in India in 3 weeks !
[08:47] <Naked_Snake> Couple months?
[08:47] <shriphani> THX-1138, gaim ?
[08:47] <boarder2006> wine and opengl suck with my gfx card so i was looking for something like qttorrent
[08:47] <THX-1138> lol - i was kidding.
[08:47] <shriphani> screechnigcat, i am indian too !!!
[08:47] <boarder2006> thanks
[08:47] <Tomcat_> screechnigcat: Took about 2 months for me in Germany I think. :)
[08:47] <Naked_Snake> shriphani : he means the dial-up service itself
[08:47] <Naked_Snake> Tomcat_ : oh, well, I live in the US
[08:47] <screechnigcat> shriphani: cool
[08:47] <shriphani> oh
[08:47] <shriphani> it took a month for the cds to come here
[08:47] <screechnigcat> Tomcat_: wierd. considering, that they ship from Holland
[08:48] <Naked_Snake> Wow
[08:48] <shriphani> and by that time i had completely ruined my breezy install
[08:48] <screechnigcat> Tomcat_: dosent holland have a common border with germany or something ?
[08:48] <Tomcat_> screechnigcat: Yeah, I have no idea what takes so long... but I can download within minutes, so it's no problem.
[08:48] <shriphani> same here
[08:48] <Tomcat_> screechnigcat: True... we share a border in the northwest.
[08:49] <shriphani> i cracked a nearby wireless connection belongs to whom godknows
[08:49] <Tomcat_> ;D
[08:49] <shriphani> and i use it for all huge downloadd
[08:49] <wwwdotcom> Is there a way to check defects, if so, how do I do this?
[08:49] <Tomcat_> If it needs to be really fast I go to university... get around 5 to 7 MB/s there. ;)
[08:49] <Tomcat_> wwwdotcom: The alternate installer has an option to check at the boot menu.
[08:49] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: damn u capitalists
[08:50] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: sorry that was meant for tomcat
[08:50] <THX-1138> wwwdotcom CD defects?
[08:50] <nextstate2> I tried 'sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-org' but I got an error saying there were no source packages for xserver-org. Can I not recompile the xorg packages?
[08:50] <Tomcat_> wwwdotcom: The CDs also have an MD5SUMS file in the root dir... you can check with "md5sum -c MD5SUMS"
[08:50] <wwwdotcom> THX, I don't know, but I thought I might check if possible
[08:50] <THX-1138> man md5sum has the needed info.
[08:50] <Fujitsu> nextstate, it's xorg, not xserver-xorg...
[08:50] <Fujitsu> nextstate, and secondly, why do you want to rebuild it?
[08:50] <boarder2006> on the live cd there is an option to check for defects on bootup
[08:51] <screechnigcat> boarder2006: he isnt using a live cd
[08:51] <THX-1138> true enough
[08:51] <shriphani> wait the cd ou ordered has an option to check the integrity of the contents
[08:51] <wwwdotcom> Tomcat, unable to open file?
[08:51] <nextstate2> Fujitsu: so I can recompile it for my machine with optimizations :)
[08:51] <CSWookie> So, I'm having problems on my new Dapper install with problems that are linked against curses 5 with wide character support printing ungly junk to the screen.
[08:52] <Fujitsu> nextstate, there's no point.
[08:52] <Tomcat_> wwwdotcom: I'm not exactly sure what the file is called and where exactly it is...
[08:52] <Tomcat_> wwwdotcom: Should be "MD5SUMS" or "MD5SUM" and be in the root of the CD...
[08:52] <CSWookie> Could someone help me fix this?
[08:52] <CSWookie> Thanks in advance.
[08:52] <nextstate2> Fujitsu: why not. I saw a guy speed up X significantly by recompiling in gentoo
[08:53] <Fujitsu> nextstate2, that's Gentoo, and it wouldn't have been significant.
[08:53] <wwwdotcom> Tomcat_, why such crazy install commands in the beginning?
[08:53] <THX-1138> wwwdotcom - "Trial by Fire?" -  weak joke sorry.
[08:54] <nextstate2> Fujitsu: ok, I won't bother with it then and save myself some time. Thanks!
[08:54] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: u should've gotten the live cd
[08:54] <THX-1138> The live CD is wonderfully easy.
[08:54] <Fujitsu> nextstate2, don't bother with recompiling stuff. The advantages that you'll gain are negligible.
[08:54] <wwwdotcom> screeching, what is the live cd? and how do I get it?
[08:54] <shriphani> wwwdotcom, you can order them
[08:55] <shriphani> for free !!
[08:55] <THX-1138> or download them
[08:55] <THX-1138> there is a live DVD also.
[08:55] <wwwdotcom> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266998&highlight=powerpc
[08:55] <weex> for some reason I'm getting a few seconds of delay loading any website with firefox in ubuntu...this just started a few days ago. Any ideas?
[08:55] <wwwdotcom> it says there we should use text based
[08:55] <variant> weex: your isp.. ?
[08:56] <weex> this doesn't happen from the other os
[08:56] <weex> or from other machines
[08:56] <foo> How can I create a system user but chroot him in his home directory?
[08:56] <variant> weex: have you tried with a blank profile?
[08:56] <wwwdotcom> "I forgot to mention, you should download the "alternate CD" for text-based installation." What is "alternate CD"?
[08:56] <Fujitsu> wwwdotcom, the text-based installer CD.
[08:56] <weex> blank profile, what does that mean?
[08:56] <Fujitsu> As opposed to the Desktop CD, which is the graphical one.
[08:57] <variant> foo: this is a good starting point: http://www.tjw.org/chroot-login-HOWTO/
[08:57] <wwwdotcom> Fujitsu, is "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" the text-based installer?  How do I find out?
[08:57] <foo> variant: sweet, thanks
[08:57] <CSWookie> Hmm.  I wonder if the text-based one doesn't have the same problems with curses that the graphical one does.
[08:57] <Fujitsu> wwwdotcom, it's the Desktop CD, so it's graphical.
[08:58] <wwwdotcom> Fujitsu, then, where do I get the text based installer?
[08:58] <THX-1138> Nah, I never cursed the graphical live CD.
[08:58] <weex> variant: how do you mean blank profile? new user?
[08:58] <Fujitsu> wwwdotcom, why do you need it?
[08:58] <wwwdotcom> Fujitsu, it is recommending we use that at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266998&highlight=powerpc
[08:58] <variant> weex: either start firefox with the -profile switch or as a different user or backup and delete your .mozilla directory
[08:59] <Flannel> wwwdotcom: grab the alternate ISO, instead of the desktop one
[08:59] <Fujitsu> wwwdotcom, if you think you need it, grab the alternate image from the place where you downloaded it.
[08:59] <variant> weex: if you go for the third option dont forget to back it up first
[08:59] <THX-1138> .initrc - typo whew that was a close one.
[08:59] <THX-1138> brb
[08:59] <foo> variant: ahh, all that. eek
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Ah, I see why it says you should have one now, wwwdotcom :)
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Yes, you need the text-based one.
[09:00] <shriphani> btw why is there a goodbye lilo in the topic ?
[09:00] <wwwdotcom> Fujitsu, sorry, I am completely lost.  I don't know where the alternate downloads are
[09:00] <variant> foo: it's probably not worth it unless your needing an exceptionally secure environment and using other security systems too
[09:00] <hantu> shriphani: oh its in our hearts
[09:00] <hantu> :P
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> shriphani, lilo founded freenode and he died a few weeks age
[09:00] <shriphani> ohh
[09:01] <shriphani> i was thinking of the bootloader
[09:01] <variant> shriphani: lol
[09:01] <hantu> oh whack.
[09:01] <hantu> i read that as 'why isn't there a goodbye lilo'
[09:01] <hantu> heh
[09:01] <DennyCrane> can someone pm me the contents of a compiz-aiglx.desktop file please?
[09:01] <foo> variant: I want to give someone ssh access... but I just want to chroot him to his home directory
[09:01] <wwwdotcom> Fujitsu, I think found it, you have to click through a few layers.  Does this look right? http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso
[09:01] <Fujitsu> wwwdotcom, yes.
[09:02] <shriphani> wwwdotcom, you on a mac ?
[09:02] <screechnigcat> wwwdotcom: u live in japan ?
[09:02] <variant> foo: for what reason? you can use permissions to make it impossible for him to read files out of his home dir with a few exeptions
[09:03] <variant> foo: unless you trust him you should also set up user limmits (type ulimit as the user and it says "unlimited" means he can crash your system or worse)
[09:04] <foo> variant: Right, but then I have to tighten down all the perms... hmm. It's not too big of a deal. I'm just making him an ssh account so he can ssh into other systems from my system with ssh keys
[09:04] <variant> foo: it's up to you
[09:04] <screechnigcat> !fonts
[09:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[09:04] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[09:04] <wwwdotcom> sorry, guys, I am on windows now, but the mac is right next to me.  Yes, I am in Japan, but it's all English based here
[09:04] <variant> foo: the chroot is not so hard to do
[09:04] <foo> variant: ok, why does that page have a ton of instructions, then? Hm
[09:05] <variant> foo: it's only nine steps :)
[09:05] <foo> variant: heh, too much for a simple chroot I think. /me shrugs
[09:05] <mneptok> evenin', users
[09:05] <variant> foo: and all the commands are their, layed out of ryou :)
[09:05] <Rizla420> anyone having sound issues?  My songs sound like they're getting distorted
[09:06] <variant> foo: actualy, i wouldnt bother with the last step in those instructions
[09:07] <DJJUM> Hi, I'm running a dual bot system but I've lost the contents of my  /boot folder. What should I do?
[09:07] <mneptok> "lost?"
[09:07] <variant> DJJUM: how did you do that?
[09:07] <variant> DJJUM: you sure its not just unmounted?
[09:07] <shriphani> true DJJUM
[09:07] <shriphani> how
[09:07] <mneptok> it's always in the last place you look.
[09:08] <DJJUM> i formatted another drive and made it accssible from/boot
[09:08] <variant> mneptok: my boots are anyway :)
[09:08] <variant> DJJUM: what do you mean? yo mounted annother parition on /boot?
[09:08] <mneptok> DJJUM: you formatted, or created (or both) another partition?
[09:08] <DJJUM> i'm guessing thats what it did
[09:08] <screechnigcat> variant: you're stupid PJ made 5 people leave the channel
[09:08] <roflpanda> Ok I'm installing wine
[09:08] <roflpanda> BUT
[09:08] <variant> screechnigcat: what?
[09:09] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: did u use the guide ?
[09:09] <roflpanda> It won't let me install IE
[09:09] <rwscold> onc eagain i am back to see if someone else has come on that might know how to get an ati tv wonder elite tv tuner working under dapper
[09:09] <roflpanda> Screech it keeps telling me IE failed.
[09:09] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: follow the guide to the word and it will work prefectly
[09:09] <variant> DJJUM: i need to know what you did, the contents might be lost or you might just not be able to see them
[09:09] <ndlovu> hi all. Are there any concerns I should bear in mind when running updates on an ubuntu server? Stuff that might break, work differently, etc.
[09:09] <roflpanda> No really, I'm installing it this way.
[09:09] <Fujitsu> ndlovu, no.
[09:09] <roflpanda> And it's definitley not installing IE
[09:09] <mneptok> ndlovu: not really.
[09:09] <screechnigcat> which way ?
[09:10] <weex> variant: well the profile switch to a new one didn't seem to help, is there anyway to see how firefox is spending its time?
[09:10] <screechnigcat> are u using wine tools ?
[09:10] <roflpanda> Yes
[09:10] <variant> ndlovu: yeah, it's normally best to wait a day or two to make sure there are no big mess ups before applying the updates
[09:10] <shriphani> roflpanda, what did you type ?
[09:10] <roflpanda> It says something about a debugger and then tells me it failed.
[09:10] <variant> ndlovu: maybe you saw the one about dissapearing X :)
[09:10] <screechnigcat> did u do the base sytem setup first ?"
[09:10] <roflpanda> Yes
[09:10] <ndlovu> so just a straight apt-get dist-upgrade on a semi-regular basis?
[09:10] <mneptok> ndlovu: and as with any other Linux, keep the old kernel around for a week or so after a new one is released and installed.
[09:10] <screechnigcat> setting up a fake drive ?
[09:11] <ndlovu> variant: yep. saw that one!
[09:11] <mneptok> ndlovu: sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:11] <ndlovu> mneptok, thanks
[09:11] <mneptok> an X isssue should not affect a server, though. ;)
[09:11] <DJJUM> i formatted the usb drive... using the  format tool in Admin-> Disks
[09:11] <variant> ndlovu: apt-get upgrade is for updates.. dist-upgrade is a more major update and you shouldnt need to do it unless there is somthing in the new version you need
[09:11] <Imrahil> what is the deal with files: core, core.4138, core.6092, etc in my hard drives / directory?
[09:11] <DJJUM> and selected "/boot"  as the access folder
[09:11] <Fujitsu> DJJUM, tha'
[09:12] <Fujitsu> *that's easy to fix.
[09:12] <variant> mneptok: who is to say that simmilar mistakes are not made in other software
[09:12] <Fujitsu> DJJUM, just go back into Admin->Disks, and `Disable' the USB drive.
[09:12] <roflpanda> still says it failed.
[09:12] <mneptok> variant: Simon Law. :P
[09:12] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: try try and try again until u suceed
[09:13] <roflpanda> it's IE 6.0 1sp
[09:13] <roflpanda> Is that a problem?
[09:13] <mneptok> roflpanda: may i ask why you want IE under Linux?
[09:13] <roflpanda> wine, mneptok
[09:13] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: yeah. only IE 5.5 runs
[09:13] <mneptok> roflpanda: WINE, Linux, whatever.
[09:13] <screechnigcat> IE 5.5 SP1
[09:13] <roflpanda> why is it asking me for 6.0? more importantly...
[09:13] <roflpanda> how do i get it to give me 5.5?
[09:14] <Fujitsu> roflpanda, why do you want IE?
[09:14] <screechnigcat> if u install it from winetools, u should be getting the correct version
[09:14] <DJJUM> ok , i did that... /boot is still empty
[09:14] <roflpanda> well like i said it's 6.0
[09:15] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: and the same package also icludes outlook express and windows media player 6.4 ?
[09:15] <roflpanda> yah
[09:15] <variant> roflpanda: there is a program i used to install IE it worked perfectly: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page It works much better than sidenet or winetools
[09:15] <roflpanda> i'm installing wine though
[09:15] <roflpanda> so i can run windows stuff
[09:15] <dhq> how do i run my c++ programs  and compile it
[09:15] <variant> roflpanda: so, apt-get install wine?
[09:15] <Fujitsu> roflpanda, Wine doesn't require IE.
[09:16] <screechnigcat> roflpanda: this is wierd
[09:16] <variant> dhq: man gcc
[09:16] <roflpanda> To continue it does.
[09:16] <variant> roflpanda: never
[09:16] <variant> roflpanda: lol
[09:16] <Fujitsu> roflpanda, no it doesn't.
[09:16] <DJJUM> maybe my fstab is messed up? Where is the fstab file again?
[09:16] <shriphani> it doesnt roflpanda
[09:16] <variant> DJJUM: /etc/fstab
[09:16] <shriphani> DJJUM, /etc/fstab
[09:16] <DJJUM> thanks :-)
[09:16] <screechnigcat> DJJUM: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:16] <shriphani> i like vi
[09:16] <variant> DJJUM: i think you probably mounted somthing over /boot.. in which case all your files are still there
[09:17] <screechnigcat> shriphani: whats vi ?
[09:17] <shriphani> a text editor ?
[09:17] <shriphani> cut the
[09:17] <shriphani> ?
[09:17] <none_> np DJAdmin
[09:17] <none_> lol
[09:18] <DJAdmiral> none_: THANK YOU SO MUCH
[09:18] <DJAdmiral> I am SAVED
[09:18] <DJJUM> hmmm... no references to  /boot in there
[09:18] <none_> great
[09:18] <Fujitsu> DJJUM, there shouldn't be...
[09:18] <gypsymauro> hello
[09:18] <Fujitsu> DJJUM, please run `mount'
[09:18] <shriphani> none_, tell me a distro that gives me just bash without x
[09:18] <variant> DJJUM: type mount on its own as root
[09:18] <Imrahil> what is the deal with files: core, core.4138, core.6092, etc in my hard drives / directory? they are huge!
[09:18] <screechnigcat> i want to compile a list of best programs for Ubuntu ?
[09:18] <Fujitsu> variant, why as root?
[09:18] <variant> DJJUM: and tell me what is mounted to /boot
[09:18] <screechnigcat> so whats the best MEdia player ?
[09:18] <variant> Fujitsu: good point
[09:18] <DJAdmiral> shriphani: There are plenty of distros that have just bash
[09:18] <DJJUM> /dev/sd1
[09:18] <gypsymauro> tomorrow I got a strange behaviour of my mouse, It points and clicks 2-3 cms at left of the real pointer..
[09:18] <variant> DJJUM: type mount on its own as user
[09:19] <shriphani> i cant find any ?
[09:19] <gypsymauro> I tried to change the mouse too.. but same problem
[09:19] <gypsymauro> any hint?
[09:19] <mneptok> shriphani: Ubuntu gives you CLI only if you want
[09:19] <DJAdmiral> shriphani: in fact you can also install ubuntu as a server which is bash only, no X
[09:19] <variant> DJJUM: so, type umount /boot
[09:19] <Fujitsu> screechnigcat, that's subjective.
[09:19] <variant> DJJUM: as root :)
[09:19] <shriphani> umm i dun want the server
[09:19] <mneptok> shriphani: use the alternate cd
[09:19] <screechnigcat> Fujitsu: vote on it
[09:19] <DJAdmiral> shriphani: And you can also boot regular ubuntu without X
[09:19] <Fujitsu> screechnigcat, or not. This channel is cluttered enough.
[09:20] <variant> the ubuntu command line is not very friendly, unlike gentoo :)
[09:20] <DJJUM> Thanks guys :-)
[09:20] <DJJUM> That worked
[09:20] <DJAdmiral> mneptok! Hey!
[09:20] <mneptok> shriphani: you can install CLI only, "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" from an existing install, or boot to runlevel 3 only.
[09:20] <shriphani> hmmm anything else
[09:20] <screechnigcat> Fujitsu: alright. just an idea
[09:20] <variant> DJJUM: thought so :P
[09:20] <mneptok> DJAdmiral: heya
[09:20] <shriphani> ok mneptok thx
[09:20] <variant> DJJUM: in future, mount usb or other removable devices under /media/sda etc etc
[09:20] <DJAdmiral> mneptok: Thanks to none_ here my computer got saved! So how are ya?
[09:20] <screechnigcat> ok gotta reboot. changed my edgy kernel from linux-image 386 to 686
[09:20] <shriphani> i got a dead hd to pluck out files from on a box
[09:21] <mneptok> DJAdmiral: i'm glad it's friday
[09:21] <shriphani> so i needed a live cd with just command line
[09:21] <DJAdmiral> TGI Friday's? ;)
[09:21] <variant> shriphani: the gentoo minimal cd is good for that
[09:21] <DJAdmiral> shriphani: Try the LFS livecd.
[09:21] <DJAdmiral> shriphani: Works great for me.
[09:21] <shriphani> cuz i got about a few gigs to cope
[09:21] <shriphani> copy
[09:22] <shriphani> without swap it would suck
[09:22] <shriphani> so i need something low on resources
[09:22] <DJAdmiral> shriphani: If it's a livecd you want then go for the LFS LiveCD
[09:22] <shriphani> ok
[09:22] <mneptok> shriphani: or DSL
[09:22] <roflpanda> I still can't find anything on this
[09:22] <variant> shriphani: gentoo minimal :)
[09:22] <shriphani> ok
[09:22] <shriphani> thanks a lot
[09:22] <DJAdmiral> Plenty of choices dude
[09:23] <mneptok> when did Gentoo move from being a punishment to a choice?
[09:23] <mneptok> >:)
[09:23] <abortd> where can i get a program to set mmy fonts for GTK programs?
[09:23] <ianm_> some people choose punishment
[09:23] <DJAdmiral> hey mneptok: what's the name of the package that adds a menu called Debian to the Applications menu?
[09:24] <ianm_> abortd: preferences / fonts ?
[09:24] <abortd> ?
[09:24] <DJAdmiral> I can't recall. oh and LFS > Gentoo
[09:24] <mneptok> DJAdmiral: there isn't one. just enable that menu with A La Carte.
[09:24] <shriphani> DJAdmiral, hmm
[09:24] <shriphani> alacarte menu editor
[09:24] <abortd> sorry wrong chan
[09:24] <abortd> i should be in kubuntu
[09:24] <DJAdmiral> mneptok: There is one actually: Don't remember what program that was though.
[09:25] <shriphani> application ---------> accessories --------------> a la carte menu editor
[09:25] <mneptok> DJAdmiral: the menu is there now, it's just hidden.
[09:25] <HeavyThinker> hmm just wondering, does the ubuntu 6.06 386 kernel have smp?
[09:25] <DJAdmiral> abortd: No problemo. many kubuntu issues are also solved here sometimes.
[09:25] <DJAdmiral> mneptok: Ahh
[09:25] <mneptok> DJAdmiral: the app you're talking about probably just unhides that menu when it installs itself.
[09:25] <cpk2> abortd: kubuntu is basically ubuntu =)
[09:25] <hockyhair> !pdf
[09:25] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[09:25] <abortd> well i was hoping i could resolve it here because i think its a gnome thing
[09:25] <abortd> well
[09:25] <abortd> anyways let me take a screen and put it on image shack
[09:26] <DJAdmiral> Go ahead abortd
[09:26] <Fujitsu> abortd, it's a GTK thing, not a GNOME thing, and I believe it's controlled by KDE when you are using KDE.
[09:26] <DJAdmiral> 835 people are here to help! =D
[09:26] <roflpanda> Ok i'm going to reinstall everything.
[09:26] <Crazed> omfg /
[09:26] <ianm_> I'm here to make trouble
[09:26] <roflpanda> And follow the guide from scratch.
[09:26] <shriphani> hmm i can use puppy , dsl or gentoo
[09:27] <shriphani> or lfs
[09:27] <Crazed> all my shift / ctrl keys don't work
[09:27] <mneptok> Crazed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:27] <ianm_> anyone using the SLED menu in ubuntu?  so far I prefer it
[09:27] <Crazed> pfff mneptok
[09:28] <DJAdmiral> mneptok: alacarte is open but i dont see how to make debian visible :S
[09:28] <mneptok> Crazed: you might want to patch that air leak, too. before you deflate completely.
[09:28] <Crazed> sux
[09:28] <TheLance> hey guys i have a major isssue here trying to update to Edgy eft
[09:28] <TheLance> can someone please help me?
[09:28] <Crazed> can't even use console to backup my xconfg ..
[09:28] <Fujitsu> TheLance, #ubuntu+1
[09:28] <Crazed> cause it has capital ..
[09:29] <Crazed> and can't make caps
[09:29] <TheLance> is that the ubuntu help channel?
[09:29] <abortd> http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ur0.png
[09:29] <abortd> there is my problem
[09:29] <abortd> look at adept in that picture
[09:29] <cpk2> TheLance: thats for edgy problems
[09:30] <Crazed> ... mneptok that reconfigure only configures my x server
[09:30] <KAINOS> newbie help on wifi
[09:30] <Crazed> not gnome ..
[09:30] <Crazed> it's not working in gnome
[09:30] <Crazed> can't use shift
[09:30] <Crazed> just like that key doesnt exists
[09:30] <mneptok> Crazed: the X server controls the keyboard, my man.
[09:30] <Crazed> also can't make any of the char above the numerical
[09:30] <Crazed> i understand that
[09:30] <Crazed> but it's not cause of x
[09:30] <mneptok> Crazed: part of any X server config is identifying the correct keymappings
[09:31] <Crazed> it's cause of gnome settings
[09:31] <Crazed> arg
[09:31] <Crazed> idiot
[09:31] <KAINOS> newbie help on wifi card (dAPPER dRAKE , RTLink WIFI Chipset, 64 HaRDWARE)
[09:31] <Crazed> nm
[09:31] <Crazed> i didnt change anything on x server nor x config
[09:31] <roflpanda> I figured it out
[09:31] <Crazed> so why should that be mesed up
[09:31] <abortd> DJAdmiral: did u see the screen shot?
[09:31] <Crazed> anyway gtg
[09:31] <Crazed> work
[09:31] <Crazed> bye
[09:31] <roflpanda> I had a newer version of wine that IE breaks on.
[09:31] <roflpanda> So I'll try this again.
[09:31] <roflpanda> =D
[09:32] <mneptok> i love when random people call me an "idiot" for trying to help them.
[09:33] <KAINOS>  newbie help on wifi card (dAPPER dRAKE , RTLink WIFI Chipset, 64 HaRDWARE)
[09:33] <mneptok> KAINOS: is there a question there?
[09:33] <richiefrich> !wifi
[09:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:33] <richiefrich> KAINOS ^^
[09:33] <richiefrich> KAINOS --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:33] <KAINOS> thanks
[09:33] <richiefrich> so right
[09:35] <abortd> so no one can help me?
[09:36] <variant> abortd: just taking a look, hold a sek
[09:36] <abortd> thanks variant
[09:36] <richiefrich> whats wrong with the adept ?
[09:36] <richiefrich> abortd ^^ ?
[09:36] <abortd> the text is huge
[09:36] <abortd> i can set the text to everything to be tiny
[09:36] <abortd> and still
[09:37] <richiefrich> then resize it
[09:37] <abortd> it wont budge
[09:37] <abortd> .....
[09:37] <abortd> if life was that simple
[09:37] <variant> abortd: sorry, i dont use kde
[09:39] <highvoltage> hi, where can I download the edgy beta?
[09:39] <highvoltage> I can only find the DVD image on cdimage.ubuntu.com :/
[09:40] <mneptok> highvoltage: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/edgy/
[09:40] <mneptok> (same dir structure for any other mirror)
[09:40] <highvoltage> thanks
[09:41] <THX-1138> I need an app to start before gnome-panel. - Where do i put the start script?      (sessions doesn't do it.)
[09:45] <noneee> hello! I'm looking for a boot floppy to install ubuntu on a laptop wich has an external usb cdrom drive and the usb ports are on a pcmcia card..
[09:47] <THX-1138> Is casper the program that boots the cd iso? - might it work for a floppy also?
[09:49] <noneee> THX-1138, sorry.. I didn't understand.. :-/
[09:50] <noneee> ah
[09:50] <noneee> ok
[09:51] <DJAdmiral> back
[09:51] <DJAdmiral> mneptok, abortd: you guys still there?
[09:51] <abortd> yea
[09:51] <omenfiend> I have Ubuntu 5.10 installed as a sever mode is it possible for me to upgrade to dapper or do i need to install ubuntu-desktop first ?
[09:51] <abortd> http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ur0.png
[09:51] <abortd> look
[09:51] <abortd> brb gotta pee
[09:52] <KenSentMe> !upgrade > omenfiend
[09:52] <jcapote> hey guys, i have an ubuntu 6.06 install disk, i was wondering how i can boot into server mode, as to install to a server
[09:52] <DJAdmiral> abortd: I just saw your screenie.
[09:52] <KenSentMe> jcapote: download and use the server install cd
[09:52] <DJAdmiral> jcapote: Is it a live cd or an alternate cd?
[09:52] <jcapote> livecd
[09:53] <DJAdmiral> ouch.
[09:53] <jcapote> id rather save myself the download if possible
[09:53] <abortd> DJAdmiral: help!
[09:53] <DJAdmiral> Get the alternate cd then
[09:53] <DJAdmiral> there's a server option there
[09:53] <DJAdmiral> sorry abortd: what exactly is the problem here?
[09:53] <DJAdmiral> oversized fonts?
[09:53] <abortd> the text in adept manager is HUGE
[09:53] <jcapote> yea it looks like i have to download a cd anyway
[09:54] <jcapote> i just have this old box that i want to put xubuntu on
[09:54] <jcapote> and i figured i could just piggy back off of the ubuntu cd i already had
[09:54] <DJAdmiral> abortd: hmm - any other programs that have oversized fonts?
[09:55] <abortd> DJAdmiral: nope
[09:55] <jcapote> DJAdmiral: Thanks anyways
[09:55] <DJAdmiral> abortd: odd.
[09:55] <DJAdmiral> abortd: try reinstalling adept?
[09:56] <DJAdmiral> !adept
[09:56] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:56] <abortd> how do i reinstall?
[09:56] <buffarama> does anyone have a fix for dapper installation hanging at step 3?
[09:56] <DJAdmiral> abortd: maybe a 'sudo apt-get install adept' should do the trick.
[09:56] <abortd> can i remove adept and use synaptic?
[09:56] <DJAdmiral> i think
[09:57] <DJAdmiral> abortd: by all means - yes! If synaptic runs in kubuntu.
[09:57] <DJAdmiral> buffarama: what exactly is step 3?
[09:58] <buffarama> keyboard layout choice,I pick, and hit forward, but it just sits there.
[09:58] <DJAdmiral> buffarama: odd. it never hangs on any other machine i know of.
[09:58] <DJAdmiral> buffarama: Did you try the "choose keyboard layout by pressing some keys" option?
[09:58] <mneptok> abortd: look at KDE's font configs
[09:59] <abortd> i did mneptok
[09:59] <DJAdmiral> mneptok: hey - How do I make debian menu visible in Alacarte then?
[09:59] <mneptok> buffarama: did you md5sum the .iso and burn at 4x or 8x speed?
[09:59] <mneptok> DJAdmiral: add something to that menu subset
[09:59] <abortd> unless there is one i do not know about
[09:59] <abortd> !synaptic
[09:59] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:00] <DJAdmiral> mneptok: erm - okay
[10:00] <buffarama> don't have that option. did the test keyboard layout bit, that works, but after hitting forward, i'm still stuck
[10:00] <KenSentMe> I have a problem installing totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin. I get this error in synaptic: totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Needed:totem-gstreamer (=1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 will be installed. Anyone know how to solve this?
[10:01] <abortd> i dont think i can  download synaptic
[10:01] <mneptok> KenSentMe: what version of Ubuntu?
[10:01] <KenSentMe> mneptok: ubuntu dapper
[10:01] <DJAdmiral> buffarama: okay - that's just freaky
[10:01] <KenSentMe> mneptok: i used xine, but online videos looked terrible
[10:02] <saquib> >> HELP: I'm having some trouble with mu repo list. Can anyone point me to a repo list where ALL the repositories are Working. Im using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.
[10:02] <KenSentMe> !source-o-matic
[10:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:02] <KenSentMe> saquib: ^^^
[10:02] <we2by> what port is windows printer sharing using?
[10:02] <saquib> Thanks...
[10:02] <mneptok> KenSentMe: are you using Synaptic or apt-get?
[10:02] <KenSentMe> mneptok: synaptic now
[10:03] <DJAdmiral> mneptok: okay - that's odd, i added an entry but the full menu isn't coming.
[10:03] <KenSentMe> mneptok: but i can try apt-get
[10:03] <mneptok> KenSentMe: looks to solve correctly here. do you have external repos enabled?
[10:03] <DJAdmiral> mneptok: doesn't the Debian menu show all the applications that are installed?
[10:04] <KenSentMe> mneptok: backports
[10:05] <mneptok> DJAdmiral: no.
[10:05] <KenSentMe> mneptok: not even backports. so no external
[10:05] <mneptok> KenSentMe: see what apt-get tells you.
[10:05] <KenSentMe> mneptok: how can i get apt-get to give errors in english?
[10:05] <abortd> hey DJAdmiral i found another program that does it
[10:05] <mneptok> KenSentMe: instead of ... ?
[10:05] <KenSentMe> mneptok: dutch
[10:06] <mneptok> KenSentMe: is Dutch your native language?
[10:06] <KenSentMe> mneptok: yes
[10:06] <mneptok> KenSentMe: tehn keep Dutch :)
[10:06] <mneptok> *then
[10:06] <foureight84> hello, is anyone here using conky and compiz at the same time?
[10:07] <KenSentMe> mneptok: i mean, i heard of a way to run an apt-get command in english so i can post the result in this channel, just for once i mean
[10:07] <saquib> >> Ques: Is it okay if i simply IGNORE the GPG key error messages?
[10:07] <foureight84> i am wondering if tehre's a way to exclude conky from showing up when viewport is activated
[10:07] <kothz> !fglrx
[10:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:08] <KenSentMe> mneptok: but the error in apt-get is the same as in synaptic
[10:09] <mneptok> KenSentMe: the $CURRENT totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin i have for Dapper is 1.4.3-0ubuntu1
[10:09] <DJAdmiral> okay - There's this program I know of that shows all installed applications categorised - all inside the debian menu - ANY idea what that package is, anybody?
[10:10] <KenSentMe> mneptok: hmm, that's strange then, mine is 1.4.1
[10:10] <mneptok> KenSentMe: it looks like apt is trying to install some newer version from some other repo.
[10:10] <foureight84> anyone?
[10:12] <foureight84> i am wondering if there's a way to exclude conky from showing up when viewport is activated
[10:13] <foureight84> thanks anyway guys
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[10:15] <DJAdmiral> arashh - DO NOT SPAM
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[10:17] <THX-1138> !spam
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <saquib>  >> Ques: Is it okay if i simply IGNORE the GPG key error messages?
[10:18] <saquib>  >> Is it okay if i simply IGNORE the GPG key error messages?
[10:18] <DJAdmiral> somebody please kick out arashh
[10:18] <DJAdmiral> goddamn spammers
[10:18] <THX-1138> Spam is a rash - cute
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[10:18] <DJAdmiral> somebody
[10:18] <DJAdmiral> please
[10:18] <KenSentMe> !ops
[10:18] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:18] <DJAdmiral> kick him before i do
[10:19] <THX-1138> Thanks Ken
[10:19] <DJAdmiral> no ops here?
[10:19] <DJAdmiral> Finally
[10:19] <KenSentMe> Seveas: thanks
[10:19] <THX-1138> In a second or two. - well run channel normally
[10:19] <DJAdmiral> Thanks Seveas.
[10:19] <THX-1138> Hi Seveas.
[10:20] <THX-1138> Seveas - Can you help me with little problem i've been having?   Discovered World ofWarcraft runs in linux and now i can't...
[10:21] <THX-1138> pull myself away from the computer.
[10:21] <Seveas> I can ban you from here is that helps 
[10:21] <KenSentMe> mneptok: you say you have version 1.4.3 of the firefox-plugin. But when i search on packages.ubuntu.com i only see 1.4.1
[10:21] <Seveas> s/is/if/
[10:21] <DJAdmiral> rofl
[10:21] <THX-1138> Lol
[10:22] <DJAdmiral> 
[10:22] <DJAdmiral> nice emote: how do you type this one out? --> 
[10:23] <kupsit_ph> question ---
[10:24] <kupsit_ph> i need to get the brand and speed of my memory (RAM)
[10:24] <kupsit_ph> any command on linux?
[10:24] <schizoschaf> is teh live and the install iso now one and the same?
[10:24] <KenSentMe> schizoschaf: yes
[10:24] <schizoschaf> cool. did not notice that
[10:25] <variant> KenSentMe: cat /proc/meminfo
[10:25] <THX-1138> DJSdmiral - it's japanese. - now after adding the character slector to the panel i don't see the choice fpr Japanese.
[10:25] <variant> KenSentMe: sorry, that wont help you
[10:26] <DJAdmiral> THX-1138: And it's DJAdmiral lol
[10:26] <KenSentMe> mneptok: found it, was wrong repos indeed
[10:26] <mneptok> KenSentMe: cool. glad you got it sorted.
[10:26] <THX-1138> Heh - I stand corrected.
[10:26] <mneptok> THX-1138: tab complete is your friend :)
[10:26] <DJAdmiral> How does one end up installing flash?
[10:26] <THX-1138> meptok - How so??
[10:27] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[10:27] <variant> DJAdmiral: you might want to try gnash instead
[10:27] <DJAdmiral> I hate this godforsaken flashplugin-nonfree which is actually flashplayer-notworking.
[10:27] <mneptok> THX-1138: type "DJ" and then hity <tab> ;)
[10:27] <mneptok> if you don't like the functionality of the Macrodobe plugin, Gnash is not going to impress you.
[10:28] <mabreaux> I have a problem with install a program to the menu.  it says it is an unsupported application. but it runs fine.  how do I add it to the menu?
[10:28] <mneptok> mabreaux: A La Carte
[10:28] <THX-1138> Ah - I got it. - nice tip. - The comma nick comepletion was removed from xchat options. - glad to have nick comepletion back.
[10:28] <mabreaux> A la carte?
[10:28] <THX-1138> meptok - What can i add to restore the wavy underline for spell checking?
[10:28] <mneptok> mabreaux: Applications -> Accessories -> A La Carte Menu Editor
[10:28] <DJAdmiral> Applications > Accessories > A la carte menu editor
[10:29] <DJAdmiral> SHOOT
[10:29] <DJAdmiral> 1 second lol
[10:29] <mneptok> THX-1138: you prolly need aspell or something
[10:29] <THX-1138> aspell is installed. - must be some py script or something.
[10:30] <g-nome> hello, how can i change my IP address to whatever i want, like here in windows: http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/network/3.shtml
[10:30] <mneptok> there might be additional aspell app bindings needed for XChat
[10:30] <mneptok> g-nome: you can't change the IP address to "whatever you want" and expect it to work.
[10:30] <saquib> ** HELP: im getting this error always: 404 file not found ... i cant update my linux kernels.. updates are listed, but cant download!!
[10:31] <Seveas> saquib, try apt-get update
[10:31] <mneptok> g-nome: IP addresses must be unique on the subnet, proper to the subnet and netmask.
[10:31] <g-nome> mneptok: but i mean like the guide for windows here : http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/network/3.shtml (i just want to connect my ubuntu machine to my windows machine, no internet needed!)
[10:31] <mneptok> saquib: sudo apt-get update
[10:31] <variant> g-nome: ifconfig eth0 IPADRESS up
[10:32] <mneptok> g-nome: System -> Administration -> Networking
[10:32] <g-nome> and how would i set it back to automatic (ISP)?
[10:32] <saquib> err.... would that help over Synaptic? i mean its the same thing right?
[10:32] <THX-1138> hm - I think you can change your machine name. but that only gets you. your_ubuntu_machine .some.isp.com
[10:32] <g-nome> p3ac3
[10:32] <mneptok> saquib: apt-get update != apt-get upgrade
[10:32] <cpk2> g-nome: you have a crossover cable?
[10:32] <saquib> ok....
[10:32] <mneptok> saquib: update the repo information. then try the download again.
[10:32] <g-nome> mneptok: should i change it to static ip?
[10:33] <g-nome> cpk2: yes i think
[10:33] <deedubb> Hello. Whats the correct way to remove mdadm from the standard startup? whats the ubuntu command for rc-update etc?
[10:33] <g-nome> nic-to-nic
[10:33] <cpk2> g-nome: with a crossover cable it is super easy
[10:33] <g-nome> cpk2: please tell me how, please
[10:33] <deedubb> most new NICs will cross it over
[10:34] <Cheep-cheep> :)
[10:34] <THX-1138> deedubb: Good question. I was wrestling with starting xcompmgr in a script before gnome-panel.
[10:34] <cpk2> g-nome: just sudo ifup eth0 192.168.1.1 and then on windows assign it 192.168.1.2
[10:34] <mneptok> deedubb: invoke-rc.d
[10:34] <rofl-face> Hey guys.
[10:34] <cpk2> g-nome: might need to tell windows the gateway is 192.168.1.1
[10:34] <rofl-face> I'm currently connected to mIRC via Wine. hehe.
[10:34] <denday> yoo
[10:34] <cpk2> g-nome: you can use any ip really as long as it is the proper format
[10:34] <g-nome> cpk2: and then how to connect?
[10:34] <rofl-face> I can't get winamp to work though. :(
[10:35] <cpk2> g-nome: thats, it they are connected, you want to transfer files? there are several different methods for that
[10:35] <variant> rofl-face: there goes all respect you had before you spoke
[10:35] <cpk2> winscp is one way
[10:35] <deedubb> mneptok, I think that doesn't do what I want; I don't want mdadm to start when my computer starts (removing the symlink from /etc/init.d)
[10:35] <cpk2> you could set up a samba share
[10:35] <denday> I use xchat
[10:35] <deedubb> oops, I mean remove it from the runlevel
[10:35] <g-nome> cpk2: let's say both are pingable, what next to connect FROM my ubuntu machine TO my windows machine (only like that)?
[10:36] <cpk2> g-nome: eh?
[10:36] <mneptok> deedubb: then try update-rc.d
[10:36] <cpk2> g-nome: once they are pingable they should be "connected"
[10:36] <deedubb> ah huh, thank you
[10:36] <g-nome> cpk2: how can i simply access my windows chare
[10:36] <variant> g-nome: what do you mean?? transfer files?
[10:36] <rofl-face> hmm wonder why it isn't working.
[10:36] <variant> g-nome: install samba
[10:36] <g-nome> just access and SEE the share
[10:37] <cpk2> g-nome: samba i suppose would be easy
[10:37] <rofl-face> that sucks man.
[10:37] <g-nome> variant: yes, but only those from the win machine
[10:37] <cpk2> g-nome: no, samba goes both ways
[10:37] <g-nome> isn't samba already pre-installed on ubuntu?
[10:37] <THX-1138> mneptok: Can i run xcompmgr.sh from rc.6?  The in script command xcompmgr &      ?
[10:37] <variant> rofl-face: why dont you use the linux version of winamp
[10:37] <rofl-face> variant is more like a uh....test, yes that's right. test.
[10:37] <rofl-face> xmms?
[10:37] <deedubb> update-rc.d -f mdadm remove is exactly what I wanted, good manpage
[10:38] <variant> rofl-face: no, the linux version of winamp
[10:38] <rofl-face> I have xmms, I'm mostly just checking it out.
[10:38] <rofl-face> THere's a linux version?
[10:38] <g-nome> anyway i just want know HOW to connect to my windows machine (where should i type its ip-address in ubuntu)?
[10:38] <variant> rofl-face: yeah there was at least
[10:38] <rofl-face> I looked on the website the other day, I wasn't aware.
[10:38] <mneptok> g-nome: Places -> Connect to server
[10:38] <rofl-face> brb
[10:38] <THX-1138> Ok. the man page is sufficient. I have the right place to add it.
[10:38] <cpk2> g-nome: i think you think this is more complicated than it really is
[10:39] <THX-1138>  .Xinit  didn't do it.
[10:39] <variant> rofl-face: http://librenix.com/?inode=1377
[10:39] <g-nome> mneptok: and then, "windows share"?
[10:39] <mneptok> g-nome: and then the SMB URL
[10:39] <variant> g-nome: you are sharing the drive under windows right?
[10:39] <g-nome> variant: yes
[10:39] <mneptok> smb://10.0.0.1/sharename
[10:40] <mneptok> (or whatever)
[10:40] <deedubb> how do you see what runlevel you're in again? uname?
[10:40] <cpk2> i do believe it would be smb://computername/
[10:40] <g-nome> mneptok: should i set "windows share" in  Places -> Connect to server or something else?
[10:40] <deedubb> windows share sounds logical
[10:41] <mneptok> it may need to be smb://windows\ share
[10:41] <g-nome> cpk2: would "smb://IPADRESS" work too?
[10:41] <variant> i think gnome has some services descovery thing too..
[10:41] <mneptok> or smb://windows%20share
[10:41] <rofl-face> but where's the place to dl it?
[10:42] <hockyhair> how do i patch and recompile a .patch file for openbox
[10:42] <cpk2> g-nome: just going off what it looks like the gui says, i access my shares through my sambashares accounts home dir
[10:42] <hockyhair> patch and recompile a program with a .patch file..
[10:42] <rofl-face> dead link.
[10:42] <mneptok> rofl-face: why not jut use Rhythmbox or Banshee?
[10:42] <saquib> **STILL GETTING THE SAME ERROR!! W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.46_i386.deb  "404 Not Found"
[10:42] <variant> rofl-face: use google, i am not your mum
[10:42] <deedubb> why does my default LAMP ubuntu server install have rsync?
[10:42] <rofl-face> hahaha
[10:42] <g-nome> cpk2: how can i set my ip adress back to auto-assign by provider?
[10:43] <mneptok> rofl-face: you decide to try out Linux, and then the first thing you do is try to turn it into Windows. stop that. ;)
[10:43] <rofl-face> i'm not worried about it.
[10:43] <subpar_> rofl-face, if you're on kubuntu, you can use amarok, or install the kde libs and put it on gnome
[10:43] <pking> right heres a biggy, i can ssh as root, but a user cant use sudo in ssh but they can use su. what could be the problem
[10:43] <hockyhair> anyone know how to patch and recomile a program with a .patch file..
[10:43] <rofl-face> what exactly is the gnome anyways?
[10:43] <subpar_> gnome is what handles the desktop
[10:43] <rofl-face> that's what i read.
[10:43] <rofl-face> but it seems everyone is like hurrah! with it.
[10:44] <cpk2> g-nome: just bring eth0 down and up again
[10:44] <g-nome> cpk2: thanks
[10:44] <subpar_> well it's very customizeable
[10:44] <mneptok> pking: is the other user in the group "admin"?
[10:44] <g-nome> so with "smb://computername/F:\Folder" should work to access my windows share?
[10:44] <rofl-face> well i just got ubuntu and have never used linux before. i'm taking it baby steps.
[10:44] <rofl-face> :)
[10:44] <pking> they are in group "adm" is this the same
[10:45] <mneptok> pking: no
[10:45] <saquib>  **STILL GETTING THE SAME ERROR!! W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.46_i386.deb  "404 Not Found"
[10:45] <pking> ok i will change them
[10:45] <hockyhair> !patch
[10:45] <ubotu> patch: Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-2 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 188 kB
[10:45] <hockyhair> arg, i need some help patching a program
[10:45] <DJAdmiral> rofl - i just made this in ubuntu - cyclops potato that seriously needs a makeover: http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2152/cyclopspotatohj7.png
[10:46] <cpk2> g-nome: no f
[10:46] <g-nome> cpk2: should enter a "subnet mask" and a gateway-address?
[10:46] <mneptok> hockyhair: there are thousands of places to find instructions on using diff with a .patch file
[10:46] <cpk2> g-nome: windows might want a gateway
[10:47] <hockyhair> mneptok: ok, can you tell me of one ;)
[10:47] <g-nome> cpk2: what's that exactly?
[10:47] <THX-1138> mneptok - Very nice that you are here.
[10:47] <hockyhair> or just tell me the cmd so i can get on my way
[10:47] <cpk2> g-nome: smb://computername/ should be all you need to get to the share
[10:47] <cpk2> g-nome: the gateway will be the linux box's ip
[10:47] <owh> Greetings. I have a system with three sata drives. Disk 1 and 2 were setup as a mirror raid with XFS partitions. One drive failed, Ubuntu f*cked itself. I won't go into that ATM. I managed to mount bits and copy data from the two drives onto drive 3, same partitions, but ext3. I now have the machine up. How do I check the integrity of the installed packages?
[10:48] <mneptok> hockyhair: http://www.squirrel.nl/people/jvromans/tpj0403-0016a.html (third result on Google for "diff patch")
[10:48] <kothz> sigh - I've been working with linux forever, and I still can't get over the initial gut wrench of a new linux install when I realise that finishing the install is only half of the install.  :)
[10:48] <owh> kothz: Aint that the truth :-(
[10:48] <mneptok> kothz: like it's any different on any other OS? ;)
[10:48] <g-nome> cpk2: so first "ifconfig eth0 IPADRESS up" on ubuntu, then similar for windows. After that i can acces the win-machine trough ubuntu with Places->Connect to server, and there enter smb://computername/, then ok?
[10:49] <g-nome> cpk2: thanks
[10:49] <hockyhair>  um im still confused with the patch options, i put my *.patch file in the source dir but i dont know what options to use with patch
[10:49] <owh> Anyone know how to check the integrity of my installed packages?
[10:49] <froud> looking for a copy of the preseed file used to install Ubuntu LAMP. I don't have copy the Server CD, just the Alternate CD. Anyone know where I can get one quickly off the network
[10:50] <THX-1138> Anyone - "Tripwire" on a fresh install.
[10:50] <cpk2> g-nome: hopefully, i am using kde and am able to open konquerer (nautilaus) and navigate to smb://computername
[10:50] <cpk2> g-nome: dont need to do any connect to server stuff
[10:50] <Gaspode> owh - why didn'y you just replace the faulty disk in the RAID?
[10:50] <cpk2> but i have also set up my samba shares correctly
[10:50] <g-nome> cpk2: anyway it savs ifup: already configured- i guess i'll make it trough GUI
[10:50] <hockyhair> got it
[10:51] <cpk2> g-nome: just bring it down
[10:51] <cpk2> g-nome: sudo ifdown
[10:51] <mneptok> froud: LAMP is not included in server. there are no preseeds.
[10:51] <cpk2> err ifdown eth0
[10:51] <g-nome> cpk2: sudo ifdown eth0 192.168.1.1
[10:51] <g-nome> ?
[10:51] <mneptok> froud: -server does not install any daemonized server processes by default
[10:51] <cpk2> g-nome: to bring it down you dont need the ip
[10:51] <owh> Gaspode: Because the system shit itself and was no longer bootable - you can imagine how happy I was :-(
[10:51] <cpk2> just the device
[10:52] <mneptok> ooo! Ben fixed my kernel issue!
[10:53] <THX-1138> Yay, mneptok
[10:53] <froud> mneptok: What of the insaller menu Item Install a LAMP Server
[10:53] <mneptok> i can use a 686 kernel again. huzzah!
[10:53] <Flannel> froud: you can just install lamp itself,
[10:53] <g-nome> how can i know my IP address trough terminal?
[10:53] <Gaspode> owh: to be sure - i'd save any data you have and can't loose (docs, pics etc.) and do a rebuild... strange that the mirrir didn't work properly though
[10:53] <mneptok> froud: i think that refers to repo-only pre-seeds. so nothing you can download.
[10:53] <Flannel> froud: at the alternate boot menu, type 'server', it'll install a headless box
[10:53] <ubuntu_> g-nome,  hi
[10:53] <Flannel> !tell froud about lamp
[10:53] <ubuntu_> use ipconfig
[10:53] <kothz> g-nome: ifconfig ethX
[10:53] <Flannel> froud: then use those instructions to download/install LAMP
[10:54] <ubuntu_> ifconfig
[10:54] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:54] <ubuntu_> sorry
[10:54] <g-nome> ok
[10:54] <owh> Gaspode: Hmm, yeah a re-install is a week's work - not the install, but the config as kothz pointed out :-)
[10:54] <ubuntu_> flannel have u tried bsd?
[10:54] <kothz> hehehe -- it's the nitty bits (flash, mp3, etc...) :)
[10:55] <Gaspode> owh: true, but the best way to be sure imho :-)
[10:55] <sic> hello
[10:55] <owh> Hmm
[10:55] <owh> Tah
[10:55] <sic> is it possible to automount lvm devices?
[10:55] <THX-1138> << Runs his server from a CD image.   (trust issues. -lol)
[10:55] <froud> Flannel: I know how to install Headless, want I want to do is automate LAMP installation as per the Server CD Installer
[10:55] <Flannel> froud: then you'll need the server CD, or you can customize the alternate ISO,
[10:56] <PMT> I installed Ubuntu as a dual-boot with XP with XP having been installed first, but every time after I boot into XP, on reboot, grub fails to load and the machines reboots. Reinstalling grub works - until the next Windows boot. Anyone ever seen this before?
[10:56] <THX-1138> Hi Flannel.
[10:56] <PMT> sic, yes?
[10:56] <froud> Flannel: you mean it is not possible to install and configure LAMP from a Preseed + kickstart methods
[10:56] <mneptok> PMT: sounds like XP is overwriting the MBR. or some virus app is.
[10:56] <PMT> mneptok, that's what I thought, but it's not overwriting it WITH anything usable.
[10:57] <PMT> Also, grub does briefly print out "grub loading stage 1.5..." before reboot.
[10:57] <sic> PMT: and how? ;)
[10:57] <mneptok> PMT: that's Windows for you.
[10:57] <PMT> sic, no idea, but I know another distro does it by default. :)
[10:57] <sic> PMT: lol ;)
[10:57] <Flannel> froud: it is possible via kickstart, although... that's an awful lot of work you'd need to go through that's already done
[10:57] <sic> PMT: that's my problem - manually it works, but i want to plug in my usb hdd an it should work ;)
[10:58] <Flannel> !tell sic about lvm
[10:58] <PMT> sic, ah, heh. I guess there's probably something you could do, but I've had bad luck on getting anything to automount, so...
[10:58] <Flannel> sic: check that page, it might have a solution
[10:58] <froud> Flannel: thx
[10:58] <PMT> mneptok, I can't figure out what might be overwriting it. I've dual-booted other things without ever seeing this problem before.
[10:58] <sic> thx flannel
[10:59] <mneptok> PMT: check /boot/grub/menu/lst and see where it think its bootloader is
[10:59] <PMT> mneptok, that never changes.
[10:59] <PMT> That's the thing.
[11:00] <PMT> If I e.g. boot to a grub prompt from LiveCD or something and tell it to read /boot/grub/menu.lst or check device.map after the fact, nothing changed.
[11:00] <mneptok> PMT: are XP and Ubuntu on the same drive?
[11:00] <PMT> mneptok, yes, and this is a laptop, can't change  that.
[11:01] <mneptok> oh, ok. so it's not GRUB installing it's MBR to a slave device.
[11:01] <mneptok> *its
[11:01] <PMT> No, the thing is that grub installs sanely.
[11:01] <PMT> And works.
[11:01] <PMT> ...until I boot into XP.
[11:01] <PMT> Then XP boots fine.
[11:01] <PMT> Then on reboot...
[11:01] <mneptok> well, that's easy then
[11:01] <mneptok> don't use XP. :P
[11:01] <PMT> Sadly, the user I'm aiding in this has requirements that Wine cannot meet and that will not be ported.
[11:01] <cpk2> i'm getting rid of xp on my desktop as we speak
[11:02] <mneptok> PMT: does the BIOS have some option for preserving the MBR?
[11:02] <PMT> mneptok, I just checked that 5m ago in the hopes that it had something like the P2/3-era "OMG YOU'RE WRITING TO THE BOOT SECTOR VIRUS" check but no :(
[11:02] <THX-1138> mneptok - genius - "Virus protection"
[11:03] <peace-keeper> help my background image and all the icons on the desktop are gone after the last automatic update!
[11:03] <PMT> peace-keeper, congratulations, reboot?
[11:03] <mneptok> peace-keeper: sounds like Nautilus went sideways
[11:03] <peace-keeper> well it happened after reboot
[11:03] <peace-keeper> taskbar and menu are here, but no desktop
[11:04] <PMT> ...uh.
[11:04] <peace-keeper> (xfce)
[11:04] <mneptok> peace-keeper: you might want to try #xubuntu
[11:04] <mneptok> and, thankfully, they aren't making us learn it. :)
[11:04] <peace-keeper> it's like it used to be in windows, every time you do a system update, something is fucked up :D
[11:04] <PMT> peace-keeper, at least it's not your critical documents!
[11:05] <mneptok> peace-keeper: but this time you haven't paid for the privilege ;)
[11:05] <peace-keeper> who says i paid for windows? :D
[11:05] <mneptok> oh you paid.
[11:05] <mneptok> maybe not with money, but you paid.
[11:05] <kothz> !flash
[11:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:05] <PMT> mneptok, you beat me to it
[11:06] <peace-keeper> did i?
[11:09] <Genscher> good morning :)
[11:09] <Genscher> i have some questions :)
[11:09] <PMT> Congrats. Ask them?
[11:09] <DJAdmiral> !ask
[11:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:10] <Genscher> my friend is using ubuntu now on his laptop. he sais "great, better than MSW! And i wish MSW would have a nice bash like linux"
[11:10] <Genscher> so nice work guys!
[11:10] <Genscher> but one thing he misses is this:
[11:10] <kothz> hrm - flash is v8 but the flash player is only v7 :(
[11:10] <PMT> kothz, blame macromedia or go code for gnash. :)
[11:10] <we2by> what's up with lilo (freenode)?
[11:10] <DJAdmiral> what exactly is he missing then?
[11:11] <PMT> we2by, his function finally returned
[11:11] <Genscher> when printing PDF's he can't choose to only print even/odd pages. Another thing is like an option to print only page "1,6,2,3" or something. This is available in the OpenOffice print - menu but not in the PDF print menu
[11:12] <we2by> PMT, what function? see topic
[11:12] <DJAdmiral> Do you mean as in printing out files to PDF? Or while printing PDF files themselves?
[11:12] <PMT> we2by, I'm unclear as to whether you're unaware that he's dead.
[11:13] <DJAdmiral> If it's the latter - then get the official Adobe Acrobat Reader in the repos, that might help.
[11:13] <Genscher> DJAdmiral: it's the later - yes. In which repository can i find the official Acrobat reader for linux/ubuntu?
[11:13] <Genscher> :)
[11:14] <PMT> multiverse or restricted?
[11:14] <DJAdmiral> universe/multiverse - but best userfriendly place to get it from would be applications > Add/Remove
[11:14] <DJAdmiral> or restricted repo - definitely not sure. lemme chekc
[11:14] <DJAdmiral> !info acroread
[11:15] <Genscher> thanks a lot! how can i disable/remove the old pdf viewer?
[11:15] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 22263 kB, installed size 53192 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:15] <DJAdmiral> Genscher: Don't remove it or disable it - just installing acroread will make pdfs open by acroread by default. Or you can rightclick - open with Adobe Acrobat Reader once you install acroread
[11:16] <Genscher> ah great that it changes the default
[11:16] <DJAdmiral> Genscher: this command should do the trick: "sudo apt-get install acroread"
[11:16] <Genscher> thank all you for your help :)
[11:16] <DJAdmiral> Anytime.
[11:16] <Genscher> this channel is really helpfull :)
[11:17] <DJAdmiral> With 867 people, it sure as hell is :P
[11:17] <lloois> does a Video Capture Card that plays TV and records TV unto hard drive work on Ubuntu?
[11:17] <lloois> anyone know pls?
[11:17] <DJAdmiral> lloois: Yes it does.
[11:17] <lloois> DJAdmiral: but the software that comes with the card is for MS XP only
[11:17] <DJAdmiral> lloois: Several programs for such purposes - check them all in Applications > Add/Remove
[11:17] <PMT> lloois, probably.
[11:18] <DJAdmiral> lloois: You don't need winxp software - search for open source alternatives! :D
[11:18] <lloois> DJAdmiral: ok :)
[11:18] <kothz> hrm. looking at a website that supposedly requires flash 8, but this is a reinstall of an OS, and I could view the flash bits on the last iteration... I wonder what I did differently
[11:18] <DJAdmiral> lloois: That's the magic of open source!
[11:18] <Genscher> that's another topic of mine. Is there a list which cards works best for linux/ubuntu? (e.g. i think USB video "cards" could be better than PCI)
[11:18] <lloois> DJAdmiral: ok cheeers big ears!
[11:19] <DJAdmiral> I saw a pin once that said "This box requires Windows 95 or better - SO I INSTALLED LINUX"
[11:19] <DJAdmiral> lol
[11:19] <lloois> slime_: your nick reminds me of a green stuff that runs out of my nose
[11:19] <lloois> DJAdmiral: lol
[11:19] <califfo> hi all
[11:20] <lloois> DJAdmiral: under Applications > Add/Remove, there is nothing for it
[11:20] <lloois> califfo: ciao!
[11:20] <lloois> califfo: come stai?
[11:20] <AbortD> !amarok
[11:20] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[11:21] <DJAdmiral> lloois: Did you enable the uni/multi repos?
[11:21] <lloois> DJAdmiral: uni/multi repos?
[11:21] <DJAdmiral> lloois: I was in Add/Remove just yesterday. There were PLENTY of such apps. Search!
[11:21] <lloois> DJAdmiral: search for what?
[11:21] <DJAdmiral> lloois: Universe and Multiverse Repositories.
[11:22] <lloois> DJAdmiral: give me one name for search for
[11:22] <califfo> I need to install PyQT4 and "python configure.py" ask me for QT4 qmake; do you known where to find it, as it seems I can't use any qmake-qt4 I found?
[11:22] <harisund> Guys, any idea which kernel is the best one to use for an amd64-turion?
[11:22] <califfo> ciao lloois
[11:22] <g-nome> can anyone help me setting up a NIC-to-NIC connection from my ubuntu machine to windows?
[11:22] <rofl-face> How do I install things in Wine that I download?
[11:22] <rofl-face> From IE
[11:22] <harisund> g-nome: sure. How do you want it? Cross over cable or regular cable?
[11:22] <rofl-face> I'm just curious to see if this works or not.
[11:22] <DJAdmiral> !repos
[11:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:23] <g-nome> harisund: to be honest i don't really know if it's crossover or not
[11:23] <DJAdmiral> !universe
[11:23] <Genscher> g-nome: i installed apache on both so sharing files is easy ;)
[11:23] <califfo> rofl-face, you should look at ubuntu wiki pages
[11:23] <harisund>  g-nome hmmm.... if it's cross over, you can setup static IPs on both computers in the same subnet, and access each other. If it's a regular cable, you will have to setup a DHCP server on one of them and use that ...
[11:23] <lloois> DJAdmiral: name one app that works for video captuire card!   I cant see one
[11:23] <harisund> Genscher: how does it help if you have apache2 on both?
[11:23] <DJAdmiral> lloois: Please tell me that you have at least enabled the universe and multivere repos?
[11:24] <lloois> DJAdmiral: how can I check that?
[11:24] <g-nome> harisund: are both ways the same fast?
[11:24] <Genscher> harisund: you can share files easily
[11:24] <cpk2> g-nome: can the machines ping each other?
[11:24] <g-nome> cpk2: no :-(
[11:24] <g-nome> i did what you said but no :-(
[11:24] <harisund> g-nome: well.. I have used both ways .. and they are relatively fast .... unless if you use scp (which is slower due to encryption)
[11:25] <harisund> Genscher: what do you do once you set up apache2 on both? Do you like access each other's web page or what?
[11:25] <g-nome> harisund: no just access the windows share from my ubuntu machine (one-way)
[11:25] <DJAdmiral> one sec lloois
[11:25] <lloois> DJAdmiral: yes I have universe and multivere repos
[11:25] <MDCore> hey all.. is there subversion / trac access to ubuntu source ? Read-only naturally :)
[11:25] <harisund> g-nome: either way, you will have to hook them up some way so they can see (ping) each other.
[11:25] <lloois> DJAdmiral: but I cant see one app for video card
[11:25] <Genscher> g-nome: you need to adjust the MSW firewall,m otherwise you can't use ping from the linux machine
[11:25] <lloois> DJAdmiral: ok ill wait
[11:25] <g-nome> ?
[11:25] <cpk2> g-nome: before you even think about getting the shares to work you need them to ping each other
[11:26] <g-nome> i know, but it  says "host unreachable"
[11:26] <Genscher> harisund: i just edit the httpd.conf to adjust, which directory to be available
[11:26] <g-nome> i have connected both pc trough a cable (nic-to-nic) and set ip addresses for both
[11:26] <CSWookie> Could someone aid me in setting up exim4 to use tls when relaying to a smarthost (in this case, gmail)?
[11:26] <g-nome> like 192.168.0.x
[11:26] <harisund> Genscher: you must probably mean some other file, since there is no 'httpd.conf' functionality in Ubuntu ... you mean /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file?
[11:26] <Genscher> and you can disable the sahring service pretty easy with disabling the apache
[11:26] <Genscher> :)
[11:26] <cpk2> g-nome: are you using a crossover cable?
[11:27] <CSWookie> I've poked around on Google, but I'm not getting the vital piece of the puzzle.
[11:27] <g-nome> cpk2: i don't know if it's crossover
[11:27] <Genscher> uhm, httpd.conf on msw
[11:27] <harisund> Genscher: ah ..
[11:27] <Genscher> :) but yes
[11:27] <cpk2> g-nome: you might be unable to do it without a crossover
[11:27] <harisund> Genscher: then you are basically using the http protocol for transferring files. As I mentioned earlier, once you hook the 2 computers up, you can use ftp, smb, http, scp....
[11:27] <g-nome> how can i know if it's crossover?
[11:27] <harisund> cpk2: it can be done. One computer should have a DHCP server installed ..
[11:27] <Genscher> harisund: yeah, you're right :)
[11:28] <DJAdmiral> lloois: type this here: /join #djahelpchat
[11:28] <g-nome> i have a switch/hub if that could help
[11:28] <harisund> g-nome: try this ... look at the 2 ends of the wire and see if the orderof the colors are the same on each end ..
[11:28] <Genscher> harisund: you don't need special cables. modern cards detect it themselfes
[11:28] <harisund> g-nome: Do you know if the switch has AUTO MDX capability? If so, it will automatically adjust to both cross over and regular cable. If not, you will have to attach the wire to a 'uplink' port ..
[11:29] <Genscher> i connected msw and ubuntu yesterday
[11:29] <harisund> Genscher: assuming it is modern, of course :)...
[11:29] <Genscher> 1. disable msw firewall
[11:29] <g-nome> msw firewall? how-to?
[11:29] <Hoxzer> hi
[11:29] <Hoxzer> :) I was wondering one thing
[11:29] <Genscher> system-settings
[11:29] <Hoxzer> how can I get TS to run with aoss?
[11:30] <cpk2> Genscher: my motherboard is a year old and it needs a crossover
[11:30] <Genscher> really? ASROCK? :D
[11:30] <califfo> I need to install PyQT4 and "python configure.py" ask me for QT4 qmake; do you known where to find it, as it seems I can't use any qmake-qt4 I found?
[11:31] <Genscher> cpk2: well...that's "onboard cards"
[11:31] <cpk2> Genscher: it is "moderrn"
[11:31] <g-nome> cpk2, harisund: ok, it IS a crossover cable, assuming that the order of cable colors is different at both ends
[11:31] <g-nome> so what now
[11:32] <Genscher> do windows detect the cable or does it say "no cable detected"?
[11:32] <Genscher> (when you plug it in your two computers)
[11:32] <harisund> g-nome: let's start with that assumption only. What you can do is setup static IPs on both computers, on the same subnet. For example, on Ubuntu - IP: 192.168.10.1 Gateway 192.168.10.2 Netmask 255.255.255.0 on Windows: IP 192.168.10.2 Gateway 192.168.10.2 Netmask 255.255.255.0 And then hook the 2 computers up. From your Win box you should be able to ping your Linux box.
[11:33] <g-nome> that's what i did and nothing happened
[11:34] <g-nome> firewall of windows disabled
[11:34] <g-nome> is there one in linux i should also disable?
[11:34] <harisund> g-nome: none, by default
[11:34] <g-nome> i tried to ping and it said "host unreachable"
[11:35] <califfo> maybe u should disable linux firewall, and see what happens
[11:35] <g-nome> and i connected the win-machine directly to ubuntu machine
[11:35] <g-nome> califfo: how?
[11:35] <califfo> forget me :)
[11:35] <philipsmith> How do I learn what the channel topic is?
[11:35] <cpk2> califfo: linux firewall is off by default
[11:35] <harisund> philipsmith: type /topic in your software
[11:36] <g-nome> what do i have to do in ubuntu to be able to *see* my win-machine? should it be detected?
[11:36] <Genscher> g-nome: does msw detect the network cable as "inserted"?
[11:36] <g-nome> Genscher, there's a red cross on the network icon
[11:36] <Genscher> (otherwise you have some computer with a red cross in the lower right corner )
[11:36] <Genscher> ok
[11:37] <infidel> che
[11:37] <g-nome> i will try again now with everything said
[11:37] <Genscher> 1. netweork cable is damaged or 2. it's the wrong network cable or 3. it is not inserted
[11:37] <g-nome> otherwise it should work ?
[11:37] <Genscher> otherwise it should at least no red-cross symboll n the screen
[11:37] <Genscher> (when having only 1 network card)
[11:38] <philipsmith> Everytime I boot Dapper, a unix terminal window is open on my desktop. Other than x-ing out of it, how to I tell Dapper not to put that unix terminal window on my Desktop?
[11:38] <g-nome> Genscher: do i need to do other things in windows?
[11:38] <g-nome> what should i set in the DNS address box?
[11:38] <Genscher> g-nome: we had the same problem yesterday...we put in another cable and the red-cross symbol was away. then we disabled the msw-firewall and used the ubuntu dhcp daemon.
[11:39] <snowblink> philipsmith, system -> preferences -> sessions
[11:39] <Genscher> you don't need dns in the first place...
[11:39] <cpk2> g-nome: you dont need dns
[11:39] <g-nome> unfortunately, i really don't know what this means, what's with DHCP?
[11:39] <Genscher> you install dhcp service under ubuntu and msw-xp will get it's IP from ubuntu
[11:39] <cpk2> g-nome: dhcp off
[11:40] <g-nome> static ip, is it that?
[11:40] <g-nome> and then manually enter one
[11:40] <g-nome> ?
[11:40] <cpk2> yes
[11:40] <Genscher> you can do that, too. someone here described it above
[11:40] <cpk2> it should be incredibly easy
[11:40] <g-nome> yes thanks all, will try now
[11:40] <g-nome> and the workgroup name?
[11:40] <g-nome> is it of any importance?
[11:41] <Genscher> well, that only works, if the cable works. and that means you first need to solve the cable problem
[11:41] <Genscher> ;)
[11:41] <AbortD> what do i need to compile C?
[11:41] <cpk2> g-nome: set the linux box to 192.168.1.1 set the windows box to 192.168.1.2 and set the windows gateway to 192.168.1.1
[11:41] <cpk2> g-nome: that should be all you need to do
[11:41] <g-nome> Genscher: but let's assume it works, then?
[11:41] <Genscher> ok, listen to cpk2 :)
[11:41] <g-nome> cpk2: also set a gateway in linux to windows box?
[11:41] <Genscher> no, linux doesn't need that
[11:42] <g-nome> ok
[11:42] <cpk2> g-nome: all you need to do on linux is bring the eth interface up as 192.168.1.1
[11:42] <AbortD> what do i need to compile C?
[11:42] <g-nome> but the workgoup name i have to enter in windows is NOT important
[11:42] <g-nome> ok
[11:42] <cpk2> g-nome: these boxes arent connected to any other networks right?
[11:42] <g-nome> no
[11:42] <DarkMageZ> AbortD, you need build-essential
[11:42] <g-nome> ok
[11:43] <DarkMageZ> AbortD, it installs the most commonly needed compiler stuff including the c compiler 
[11:43] <MustDo> hello
[11:43] <MustDo> how can i sync my system clock?
[11:43] <MustDo> !clock
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <DarkMageZ> MustDo, right click on it and go adjust time
[11:45] <MustDo> DarkMageZ: i mean online sync
[11:45] <MustDo> i have my pc batterty gone away
[11:45] <MustDo> so i have to sync my clock online
[11:45] <mneptok> MustDo: sudo ntpdate time.berkeley.netdot.net
[11:45] <MustDo> how do i do
[11:45] <MustDo> ok
[11:45] <MustDo> tnx
[11:45] <AbortD> thanks DarkMageZ
[11:45] <mneptok> MustDo: and if you want that to be done automagically for you, sudo apt-get install ntpd
[11:45] <DarkMageZ> there's also the "sync now" button in there...
[11:46] <haappers> :)
[11:46] <DarkMageZ> AbortD, np, what are you compiling anyways?
[11:47] <AbortD> the mana world
[11:49] <haappers> I have a problem with the x server
[11:49] <lloois> anyone here use MSN in Gaim?
[11:49] <DarkMageZ> AbortD, ai's already built that for us :P
[11:50] <g-nome> sorry, forgot to ask: should the gateway address (on the win-machine) be the IP-address of the win-machine or that from the ubuntu one?
[11:50] <DarkMageZ> AbortD, http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=30&func=view&id=835&catid=36
[11:50] <haappers> xfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/username/.ICEAuthority: Permission denied
[11:50] <mwright1> Hi, if I install Edgy Eft Beta1... willl it apt-get upgrade to the release version
[11:50] <mwright1> or will I be stuck on Development
[11:50] <lloois> g-nome: why?
[11:51] <AbortD> yeah DarkMageZ i just like to package my own :P
[11:51] <lloois> anyone here use MSN in Gaim?
[11:51] <g-nome> lloois: to connect both machines
[11:51] <cpk2> g-nome: i would make it the ip of the nix box
[11:51] <lloois> g-nome: ah ok
[11:51] <DarkMageZ> AbortD, ah, k have fun 
[11:51] <g-nome> cpk2: ok thanks
[11:51] <Forth> Hi
[11:52] <haappers> mwright1 I think so
[11:52] <AbortD> DarkMageZ, how did you do that smiley?
[11:52] <MustDo> !nvidia
[11:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:53] <haappers> thx ubotu
[11:53] <DarkMageZ> AbortD, it's a katakana symbol. i can't remember how you type those in
[11:53] <deFrysk> !botsnack
[11:53] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:53] <Forth> I'd like to user freemind on my dapper (ppc), so I've installed ibm jdk and everything goes smooth but now I'm trying the jabber freemind plugin and it doesn't work because I guess the less of support of ssl in the ibm jre
[11:54] <AbortD> oh
[11:55] <Forth> here is a pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25152/
[11:55] <haappers> mwright1 isnt there an upgrade parameter in apt-get
[11:56] <haappers> full upgrade (distro version) i mean
[11:58] <lastnode> haappers, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:58] <cpk2> could use some advice on setting my partitions on a fresh install
[11:59] <cpk2> I have 1 40G(ide) and 1 300G(SATA) drive, want to have at least a seperate / and /home
[11:59] <hendi> I was writing email and suddenly my keyboard stopped working, even after reboot. No keys work, neither do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Problem is only in Gnome, unter gdm keys work fine. Now I'm using another account, and keys work under Gnome. Any ideas?
[11:59] <Nahkiss> I wonder if there's any repo that has mpd with shoutcast(/icecast2) support?
[11:59] <TheCan> hi - i just tried the new ubuntu 6.10 beta - where is this "much better" file open dialog in gnome?! It got even worse, now you cant even create a folder there
[11:59] <haappers> put linux on the sata
[11:59] <mwright1> I want to know if I install 6.10 beta1 if it will apt-get upgrade all the way to the release veresino of Edgy Eft
[12:00] <mwright1> or will I be stuck on some devel version like rawhide is to redhat
[12:00] <cpk2> haappers: I am formatting everything to ext3...
[12:01] <haappers> cpk2: i meant put the system on the sata drive
[12:01] <orion2012> mwright1: no, you will be able to dist-upgrade to edgy final
[12:01] <Nahkiss> cpk2, probably good to put / and /home both on the sata as it has better performance
[12:01] <zorgIsBack> hi
[12:01] <mwright1> roadmap wise, is beta1 the final RC or will there be other betas
[12:01] <haappers> cpk2:what nahkiss said
[12:02] <pwk>  Back  Duration~[7 Hours 19 Minutes and 58 Seconds] ~ Reason~[auto away after 15 minutes of inactivity] ~   
[12:02] <cpk2> but what am i going to do with the ide? i kinda wanted to just put / and swap on the 40G that way i wouldnt have anything spanning 2 hard drives
[12:02] <haappers> cpk2: put knoppix on it
[12:02] <haappers> cpk2: :D
[12:02] <pwk> hi
[12:02] <pettern-> i seem to have broken my ubuntu. When i boot it up i get a message saying that /dev/sda8 does not exist(thats my root partition). Then it drops to ash shell. I did remove some kernel packages some days ago so i must have removed something i needed. Is there any way to fix that?
[12:02] <zorgIsBack> is EdgyEft a livecd?
[12:02] <cpk2> lol
[12:03] <pwk> can anybody tell me where i can find a guide with pcitures on howto do basic stuff in ubuntu?
[12:03] <Nahkiss> cpk2, you're gonna use your pc just on plain desktop use?
[12:03] <mikhail^> anybody here has success with using boostbook with the packaged boost-build system?
[12:03] <grouchytim> zorgIsBack:  yes it's a live CD
[12:03] <cpk2> Nahkiss: what do you mean? its a desktop, no I dont plan on running a server off of it
[12:04] <zorgIsBack> thanks grouchytim
[12:04] <grouchytim> YW
[12:04] <zorgIsBack> anybody knows if wpa2 is working?
[12:04] <pwk> anybody know where i can find one ?
[12:04] <cpk2> Nahkiss: what about having a seperate /usr partition as well?
[12:05] <haappers> i hate vim! argghhhh
[12:05] <LiraNuna> there's always gedit \o/
[12:05] <haappers> im on console
[12:05] <^self> haappers: apt-get install nvi
[12:05] <webben> I'd like to buy an external USB DVD rewriter. Which companies' USB DVD rewriters tend to work best with Ubuntu?
[12:06] <frogzoo> !hardware
[12:06] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:06] <^self> or, if you hate vi in all its unholy forms, and will not switch to emacs, there's joe
[12:06] <haappers> irc is a bitch old-school
[12:06] <Nahkiss> cpk2, well I don't actually have much knowledge about what is good partitioning scheme but if you want to get best performance, even for desktop use, having all on sata drive would be good. ofc you can use the 40gb as storage drive for some files that you don't use so frequently
[12:06] <balor> Will edgy get the latest NVidia beta drivers?  Or will that be edgy+1?
[12:06] <haappers> i like joe
[12:06] <ThinkClear> Hi all
[12:06] <haappers> its not installed by default is it?
[12:07] <ThinkClear> Can someone help me out
[12:07] <ThinkClear> need help
[12:07] <cpk2> i just dont see sata giving a very big performance boost
[12:07] <webben> frogzoo, i don't see any list of DVD rewriters there
[12:07] <cpk2> the biggest bonus about sata for me is the small plugs =P
[12:08] <Nahkiss> cpk2, ye well, it's not actually so much faster in desktop use I guess :P
[12:08] <webben> does anyone have an external USB DVD rewriter that works?
[12:08] <haappers> cpk2: apparently the difference between ATA-100 and ATA-133 is nominal
[12:08] <haappers> cpk2: but i did notice a difference with SATA
[12:08] <haappers> which is ATA-150 ?
[12:09] <Nahkiss> to be honest, you could just sell the 40gb drive or something :P isn't 300gb enought :P
[12:09] <^self> apt-get gave me a new kernel (2.6.15-27).  after i rebooted, i no longer have /dev/usb.  how do i, um, get it back?
[12:09] <okami> webben: I do, it's just a standard external USB case with a LG dvd writer... works just fine
[12:09] <infidel> can someone tell me how to server a html file with apache? i have apache up and running, i'm just trying to point an html file to an ip address
[12:09] <superkirbyartist> I have problems with PPP.
[12:09] <superkirbyartist> !ppp
[12:09] <ubotu> ppp: Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.4b1-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 314 kB, installed size 1000 kB
[12:09] <webben> okami: Ah... thanks for the report :)
[12:09] <califfo> ^self, try sudo mount /dev/usb
[12:09] <okami> webben: np
[12:09] <califfo> I need to install PyQT4 and "python configure.py" ask me for QT4 qmake; do you known where to find it, as it seems I can't use any qmake-qt4 I found?
[12:09] <ThinkClear> Im sorry to interupted , but does anyone now how to get apacheserver on the internet
[12:10] <^self> califfo: it's not in my fstab.
[12:10] <haappers> the old ide cables are shit compared to sata
[12:11] <cpk2> Nahkiss: eventually i will get rid of the 40gig but right now I am tight on space hehe
[12:11] <superkirbyartist> I need help with PPP: cannot access internet.
[12:12] <haappers> cpk2: use it as backup space?
[12:13] <haappers> put all of your napster porn on it
[12:13] <sethk> infidel, if you mean that you need to create a virtual domain for apache, it's a bit tricky, but the comments in the httpd.conf file should help you.
[12:13] <sethk> infidel, I'm off for work, I'll try and get onto here when I get there.
[12:13] <haappers> cause i know you dont have that much text data
[12:14] <mneptok> actually, vhosts are no longer defined in httpd.conf
[12:14] <cpk2> haappers: i do have 100gigs of video though...
[12:14] <superkirbyartist> I need help with PPP.  Cannot access PPP.  This is important!
[12:14] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: let me guess. Winmodem?
[12:14] <superkirbyartist> Yes.  Connexant.  Modem works.
[12:14] <haappers> cp2k: bingo
[12:14] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: how do you know the modem works?
[12:15] <superkirbyartist> It dials the number, UN sent, PW sent, welcome message received, ip/dns received.
[12:15] <haappers> back in the old days we had 500mb HDD and it was great
[12:15] <mneptok> so then what is the problem?
[12:16] <superkirbyartist> mneptok: Firefox/Gaim does not work.
[12:16] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys i m writing an article for my school magazine on why to switch over to linux
[12:16] <fredrich> hello, any of you know how to install mediatomb on dapper?
[12:16] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> so please if someone has time. inputs are appreciated
[12:17] <chalcedony> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: virueses, trojans, back doors and money
[12:17] <haappers> PunjabiFLYDIAN: switch to ReactOS
[12:17] <lastnode> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:17] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok ok i m leaving. will the guys there answer? or can u suggest some otehr channel?
[12:17] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: if PPP was the problem, you would not connect, not login, get no DHCP info, etc.
[12:17] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: can you ping hosts by IP? do name lookups?
[12:17] <superkirbyartist> Right.
[12:18] <superkirbyartist> I can ping 6...
[12:18] <superkirbyartist> 6x.x.xx.x?
[12:18] <superkirbyartist> Not sure but it works.
[12:18] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: http://82.211.81.166
[12:19] <mneptok> does Firefox load that page?
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> Lesee...
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> Dial-up is on other PC.
[12:19] <haappers> what was the off channel again?
[12:20] <MustDo> peope has everyone got a nvidia tnt2 riva? i would like to know what drivers  to install?!
[12:20] <haappers> if i run off the mobo gfx card will i have nvidia issues?
[12:20] <haappers> its SISfx or something like that
[12:22] <balor> MustDo, the nv driver
[12:22] <rofl-face> I almost had soulseek working on wine.
[12:22] <rofl-face> Dangit
[12:24] <superkirbyartist> YES!  IT WORKS!  THANK YOU!
[12:24] <superkirbyartist> (Caps used to represent excitement)
[12:24] <oga> hey all i'm not sure what i've done but i've somehow destroyed my sound (and everything was working so well....) is there a way to debug sound problems
[12:24] <oga> i recently installed a couple of extra codecs to try and get quicktime files to play
[12:25] <rofl-face> REINSTALL EVERYTHING. Ok, maybe not.
[12:25] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: so it works by IP address and not name. so they problem you have is DNS. talk to your ISP>
[12:25] <rofl-face> I reinstalled ubuntu 3 times yesterday.
[12:25] <oga> and also installed ipodder & xine,
[12:26] <rofl-face> also winamp for wine doesn't work. I tried it like 90 times.
[12:26] <mneptok> just. use. Rhythmbox.
[12:26] <mneptok> or Amarok. or Banshee.
[12:27] <okami> or xmms
[12:27] <rofl-face> wine=windows
[12:27] <mneptok> and Xine, XMMS, Totem, or mplayer.
[12:27] <rofl-face> i use xmms in ubuntu
[12:27] <rofl-face> i <3 xmms
[12:27] <oga> mneptok i've tried xmms, xine & totem (everything was working earlier today) and i'm not sure what i've done to break it.
[12:27] <gokhan_> how install this compiz http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42786
[12:28] <mneptok> oga: have you checked the ALSA mixers and whatnot?
[12:28] <rofl-face> man if i could refind what i found earlier people with esd AND alsa would feel happy.
[12:29] <gokhan_> how install this compiz http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42786 ??
[12:29] <pwk> i would of ran ubntu as main os if it supported all my stuff
[12:29] <oga> mneptok nope, where are they (or if that is just looking at the volume control panel then yes i have)
[12:30] <rofl-face> I can listen to music and play youtube videos at the same time so far.
[12:30] <oga> i'm rebooting.... maybe i've found the problem
[12:30] <rofl-face> let's just hope it stays that way.
[12:30] <pwk> guess i'm just a windows user
[12:30] <pwk> {{ gHg t  }}
[12:31] <rofl-face> I'd like to have Windows again someday, but this has to do for now.
[12:31] <pwk> too bad all software is windows
[12:31] <rofl-face> That's the thing that sucks.
[12:31] <pwk> i'm in windows vista, and its a big improvement
[12:31] <rofl-face> like i love mirc.
[12:31] <rofl-face> but i have to use wine in order to get mirc to work.
[12:31] <mneptok> pwk: "all software?"
[12:32] <pwk> like software that don't work in wine
[12:32] <rofl-face> soulseek doesn't work.
[12:32] <rofl-face> I just tried it :(
[12:32] <mneptok> pwk: OSX does not work in WINE
[12:32] <Shish> people actually use mirc after they've tried an alternative o_O? (This assumes you did try the native clients first...)
[12:32] <superkirbyartist> Only Google works... :-(
[12:32] <mneptok> OSX does not work in Windows.
[12:32] <rofl-face> Yah, I don't know it's ugly looking Shish but it's...well..
[12:33] <rofl-face> It's hard to explain.
[12:33] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: contact your ISP. you have DNS issues.
[12:33] <pwk> i tired osx beofe, it was ok
[12:33] <rofl-face> Hahaha
[12:33] <superkirbyartist> I can always try other IPs
[12:33] <rofl-face> Alright for getting ignored!
[12:33] <Bazzi_> Shish: There are weird people indeed
[12:33] <mneptok> mIRC is to IRC clients what the Yugo was to cars/
[12:33] <pwk> did somebody just ignore me ?
[12:33] <matahari> hi
[12:33] <mneptok> pwk: if so, how would they answer?
[12:34] <rofl-face> Eh doesn't matter to me.
[12:34] <pwk> {{ gHg t  }}
[12:34] <rofl-face> I like it.
[12:34] <okami> lol @ mneptok
[12:34] <rofl-face> I think I just got ignored.
[12:34] <rofl-face> Cause I <3 mIRC
[12:34] <superkirbyartist> mneptok: I will be back.
[12:34] <matahari> i just can't log in via ssh in my ubuntu box.... i edited the sshd_config and set everything i know that is needed to authenticate via password, but it always complains by"Permission denied, try again"
[12:35] <rofl-face> But wine is pretty cool.
[12:35] <pwk> if i knew my angel tv tuner card work in ubntu
[12:35] <mneptok> matahari: sshd_config needs no editing
[12:35] <rofl-face> Hey I didn't expect my sound to work at all and look at me now!
[12:35] <rofl-face> Windows didn't like my onboard soundcard or something, so it wouldn't play sound at all.
[12:35] <matahari> mneptok: when i don't edit this file it won't conect too
[12:35] <mneptok> rofl-face: yeah, look at you. you get into another OS and promptly start trying to make it into Windows. :P
[12:35] <okami> mneptok: Umm... sshd_config allows root login's by default
[12:36] <mneptok> okami: not on Ubuntu it doesn't
[12:36] <sc0tty> my sound works, but my stupid multimedia keys won't control the master, thus they have no effect
[12:36] <sc0tty> stupid keys
[12:36] <pwk> i'm thinking about running in vmware first
[12:36] <sc0tty> they worked fine wednesday
[12:36] <rofl-face> I know mneptok.
[12:36] <okami> mneptok: Did you change it, the default install here did
[12:36] <Astinus> Good Morning :) I'm having some problems under Edgy Eft with Intel IPW3945 A/B/G wireless - module is loaded fine, but the interface doesn't show up. Laptop is a Samsung Q35, does anyone have any ideas?
[12:36] <pwk> when i restart and bootup to xp, i'll use vmware
[12:37] <pwk> and if everything goes well.. i'll hvae main os
[12:37] <rofl-face> Actually I installed ubuntu on a whim.
[12:37] <mneptok> okami: root has no password in Ubuntu. therefore root cannot login locally OR via ssh/
[12:37] <snowblink> Astinus, /j #ubuntu+1
[12:37] <pwk> whats "whim"?
[12:37] <Rambo3> Astinus: WEP WAP
[12:37] <rofl-face> Whim as in my XP disc got messed up.
[12:37] <okami> mneptok: o-tay
[12:37] <rofl-face> Needed an os for this computer.
[12:37] <balor>  /j #ubuntu+1
[12:37] <rofl-face> Decided to give this a try.
[12:37] <pwk> Cool
[12:37] <superkirbyartist> mneptok: Neopets works with magic number.
[12:37] <Astinus> snowblink: Thank you.
[12:38] <pwk> i've had ubntu on my mind last days
[12:38] <Astinus> /win 22
[12:38] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: the fact remains that you have a DNS issue
[12:38] <Astinus> Erk :/
[12:38] <pwk> ubntuntu suppose to be easiest to leanr i guess
[12:38] <rofl-face> Someone mentioned to me to try my soundcard on Ubuntu
[12:38] <matahari> say, what could be the reason why i can't login via ssh
[12:38] <rofl-face> Because it wasn't working in Windows
[12:38] <superkirbyartist> Heck, all sites work with magic numbers.  Letters do not.  How do I fix DNS issue?  What do I tell ISP?
[12:38] <rofl-face> So I kinda had ubuntu on my mind.
[12:38] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: you can test this site and that site and however many you want. but you still cannot conenct to some servers by name, but can do so via raw IP. that's DNS.
[12:38] <andybalaam> matahari: what error message are you seeing?
[12:39] <pwk> e ack ater
[12:39] <matahari> permission denied please try again
[12:39] <rofl-face> 3 is the magic number.
[12:39] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: you tell them that their DHCP server is not properly assigning DNS servers when it gives out leases.
[12:39] <superkirbyartist> Okay.
[12:39] <rofl-face> Has anyone tried Wine? What did they get to work with it?
[12:39] <andybalaam> matahari: are you behind a firewall at either end?
[12:39] <oga> hey all thanks for the help (and suggesting all the alternative music players) but somehow the pcm level got muted (i have not idea how) it's all good now
[12:39] <rofl-face> So far my list is not work: Soulseek
[12:39] <superkirbyartist> Thanks a lot man!  I can at least (partly) access the web!
[12:40] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: np. that's why they pay me. :)
[12:40] <Rambo3> oga search allsa gui mixer
[12:40] <Rambo3> alsa
[12:40] <superkirbyartist> You're paid for free help !?
[12:40] <refuze> hey i am trying to unextract a RAR archive that has folders in hebrew and i get an error message that it cannot create the folders
[12:40] <rofl-face> gui mixer eh?
[12:40] <okami> superkirby: do you have any entries in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[12:40] <rofl-face> what's that suppose to do?
[12:40] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: who says my help is free? ;)
[12:40] <rofl-face> is that a graphical alsa mixer?
[12:40] <andybalaam> matahari: are you behind a firewall at either end?
[12:40] <superkirbyartist> It's IRC.
[12:40] <superkirbyartist> IRC = free.
[12:41] <mneptok> superkirbyartist: but my desk and the Canonical support queue and Launchpad and and and ... are not. :)
[12:41] <andybalaam> matahari: what exact command are you typing, and what exact error are you seeing? (Select text to copy and middle-click to paste into chat)
[12:41] <rofl-face> Maybe Rambo DID ignore me.
[12:41] <superkirbyartist> Okay.  Well simply thank you.
[12:41] <rofl-face> All because of my love for the dear and wonderful mIRC.
[12:41] <mneptok> oh, another Canuckian
[12:41] <okami> < thinks same as mneptok
[12:42] <Rambo3> oga or you can use alsamixer from command line
[12:42] <Rambo3> i cant find gui in repos
[12:42] <matahari> andybalaam: cop and paste doesn't work - this is another box
[12:42] <pebblestone> Hi I need help. I accidently deleted /etc/mysql. and now I couldn't even reinstall it. Aptitude report that the configuration file my.cnf debian.cnf and debian-start are missing. What should I do to recover from it?
[12:42] <rofl-face> i should probably update my wine stuff.
[12:42] <matahari> i used the command ssh localhost -lmatahari
[12:42] <andybalaam> matahari: ok, type in the command you used
[12:42] <oga> Rambo3 don't worry bout me i've got it under control i'm listening to wolfmother right now (they are the shit by the way)
[12:42] <andybalaam> matahari: (obviously leave out passwords)
[12:42] <higen> hmm.. i have some problems with startup of my computer after moving /var to another partition then the root partition.. it seems that the partition with /var get mounted later then certan scripts that runs
[12:43] <matahari> and got an permission denied, pelase try again
[12:43] <mneptok> higen: fstab
[12:43] <okami> I don't envy superkirby talking to sympatico tech support... you say linux and they tune out
[12:43] <mneptok> okami: that's why i use a different ISP with my bell.ca DSL service ;)
[12:43] <higen> mneptok: is the fstab mounted sequencal?
[12:43] <andybalaam> matahari: is the ssh service running?
[12:44] <mneptok> higen: usually, yes
[12:44] <rofl-face> Ok me not need a 6am bedtime
[12:44] <mneptok> higen: on-channel, please
[12:44] <andybalaam> matahari: did you get this? "ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused"
[12:44] <matahari> ssh is running
[12:44] <matahari> the error you mentioned doesn't occur
[12:44] <andybalaam> matahari: so it literally just says "permission denied" ?
[12:44] <higen> sure
[12:45] <mneptok> matahari: please e-mail your sshd_config to kurt@ubuntu.com
[12:45] <matahari> yes
[12:45] <andybalaam> matahari: weird
[12:45] <matahari> can i paste it too?
[12:45] <mneptok> please do not
[12:45] <higen> okay.. the thing is.. that the network-loopback interface having problem comming up..
[12:45] <matahari> i mean it pastebin
[12:45] <higen> i guess its due to non-access to /var
[12:45] <mneptok> sure, if you want
[12:45] <andybalaam> matahari: go for it
[12:45] <okami> matahari: have you made any changes to /etc/hosts.{allow/deny} ?
[12:46] <matahari> no, no changes
[12:46] <mneptok> higen: you'll want to explicitly state ext3 as type for /home and /var
[12:46] <okami> ok. so it's not that then
[12:47] <higen> mneptok: even its a bind?
[12:47] <matahari> www.phpfi.com/158418
[12:47] <mneptok> higen: you should probably put /usr in pass 0, too
[12:47] <okami> does sudo lsof -i show sshd listening on port 22/tcp
[12:47] <higen> ok.. i guess thats the issue then
[12:48] <matahari> yes
[12:48] <andybalaam> matahari: what happens if you do "telnet localhost 22" ?
[12:48] <mneptok> matahari: remove the last line from sshd_config
[12:48] <okami> matahari: are you using a firewall? like firestarter?
[12:48] <andybalaam> mneptok: well spotted
[12:49] <matahari> andybalaam: name or service not known
[12:49] <matahari> okami: no
[12:49] <matahari> mneptok: ok
[12:49] <okami> hmm...
[12:50] <mneptok> matahari: aslo comment out "PasswordAuthentication yes"
[12:50] <mneptok> *also
[12:50] <matahari> now irt works
[12:50] <matahari> thanks
[12:50] <mneptok> np
[12:50] <andybalaam> matahari: cool!
[12:50] <termos> i have two soundcards, one live! and an on-board intel one but none of them seem to play any sound, i've set the live one to default card in ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf but it doesn't seem to help
[12:51] <matahari> why does the AllowUsers directive block them?
[12:51] <andybalaam> Does anyone have any idea why the kernel does not seem to see my DVB card?
[12:52] <higen> mneptok: thanks, the pass 2 to 0 was the magic.. i see now why :P  i have been staring my eyes blind on that file for days
[12:52] <andybalaam> matahari: I think it means "only allow these users"
[12:52] <mneptok> higen: glad it works :)
[12:52] <matahari> but i logged in as one of these users
[12:52] <matahari> strange :-/
[12:53] <mneptok> matahari: AllowUsers is for PAM authentication, which you are not doing.
[12:53] <mneptok> matahari: so what you basically told sshd was "allow these users to connect via PAM, disallow everyone else, and PAM is not setup"
[12:53] <matahari> oh, that's the key
[12:53] <mneptok> which, in effect, blackos everyone.
[12:53] <matahari> thanks
[12:53] <mneptok> *blackholes
[12:54] <mneptok> can i interest anyone in an official Canonical support contract? :D
[12:56] <znull> heya if I upgrade my dapper to edgy  (i got ati 9200) I will still have 3d acc.?
[12:56] <matahari> i have another ssh issue
[12:57] <tritium> znull: yes.  edgy questions really belong in #ubuntu+1
[12:57] <znull> oh ok thanks
[12:57] <matahari> how can i copy a file via scp that is only readbe for root..... scp root@host won't work i suppose
[12:57] <matahari> sudo scp doesn't have any effect on the remote host
[12:58] <okami> znull: add the following to the end of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <okami> Section "Extensions"
[12:58] <okami>         Option      "Composite" "0"
[12:58] <okami> EndSection
[12:58] <avr_freak> Can anyone help me how to install Ubuntu in Old PC (PIII 800Mhz) with Ati Graphics Card (8MB) ?
[12:59] <Rambo3> avr_freak: same way you would install on normal PC
[12:59] <kzm> avr_freak, I tried the boot CD on an old PC with too little RAM (64Mb?)  That didn't work too good.
[12:59] <kzm> of course, it could be the 1x CD player that was the bottleneck :-)
[12:59] <znull> okami: whats that? to work my drivers on edgy?
[01:00] <avr_freak> i have problem with ATI i guess ...
[01:00] <okami> znull: without it, you'll lose your 3d acc.
[01:00] <znull> okami: but fglrx works with xorg 7.1?
[01:00] <mneptok> znull: i would stick with Dapper for now
[01:01] <mneptok> unless you like downloading 150-250MB of updates daily.
[01:01] <znull> mneptok: then how do I update just gnome?
[01:01] <kzm> Is there a repository for more updated packages?  (I'm getting tired of installing tar.gz snapshots all the time)
[01:01] <okami> znull: Yes but xorg in edgy defaults to composite enabled, fglrx doesn't support it
[01:01] <kzm> Perhaps I can compile sources from Debian unstable or something...
[01:02] <MustDo> !nvidia
[01:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:02] <frogzoo> !easysources
[01:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:02] <mneptok> znull: you can't wait a couple weeks?
[01:02] <frogzoo> !easysources > kzm
[01:02] <znull> okami: then with that line is going to work my edgy? cuz last time it didn't worked when I upgrade to egdy..
[01:03] <znull> mneptok: no:P i want new gnome usplash +kernel:D
[01:03] <mneptok> ugh. i don;t like the edgy+1 codename. :(
[01:03] <warlock> How to set the dir /home/users/ so all files in that dir is owned by "sbnc" ?
[01:03] <okami> znull: should do. It's the one problem that got me for a hour or so
[01:03] <mneptok> znull: uhhh .... GNOME doesn;t provide a kernel.
[01:03] <znull> mneptok: i know that
[01:04] <mneptok> warlock: sudo chown -R sbnc:sbnc /home/users
[01:04] <abortd> !widget
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <znull> mneptok: i said that I want that packages.. gnome/kernel/usplash/ and new init script that I've read
[01:06] <andybalaam> Does anyone have any idea why the kernel does not seem to see my DVB card?
[01:06] <andybalaam>  /dev/video0 does not exist
[01:06] <andybalaam> not mentioned in dmesg
[01:07] <andybalaam> But apparently it's supported Hauppauge Win-TV (NOVA-t)
[01:08] <andybalaam> lspci gives its chipset as "Phillips Semiconductors SAA7146"
[01:10] <Rambo3> mythtv wiki has something about those cards on ubuntu
[01:10] <Rambo3> !mythtv
[01:10] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[01:11] <andybalaam> Thanks, looking
[01:11] <godfather> hy guys
[01:11] <godfather> i need a programme to burn cd mp3 dvd and so on like neroburning runningon windows
[01:12] <Rambo3> To use a Hauppauge TV capture card you will need to install the ivtv driver and card firmware. Ivtv is not yet available as a package, so install it from source.
[01:12] <Rambo3> [edit] 
[01:12] <sonium> does someone use nessus here?
[01:12] <sonium> my frontend always crashes on login
[01:12] <KenSentMe> What client do you people use to download podcasts?
[01:12] <sonium> is this normal?
[01:12] <Rambo3> andybalaam: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation
[01:12] <okami> KenSentMe: CastPodder
[01:12] <sonium> oh... it doesn't crash... just needs some time to log in
[01:13] <godfather> is there anyprogramme like neroburning running on linuxu with gnome?
[01:13] <andybalaam> Rambo3: thanks, I'll take a look
[01:13] <KenSentMe> okami: which version?
[01:13] <mneptok> ok, i'm off for my weekend
[01:13] <KenSentMe> mneptok: have a nice weekend then
[01:14] <ieldib> hey everybody
[01:14] <okami> KenSentMe: 5.1-2
[01:14] <npster> What is another program like Picasa for Linux. I am having problems with Picasa with PTP.
[01:14] <ieldib> can anyone help me get my ipw3945 wlan working ?
[01:14] <andybalaam> Rambo3: Isn't IVTV for analogue cards?
[01:14] <KenSentMe> okami: did you use the deb download from the castpodder website, because the program doesn't run here
[01:14] <andybalaam> mneptok: have a good one!
[01:14] <ieldib> anyone ?
[01:15] <ponsfrilus> npster: digikam, f-spot, gqview, gthumb, jbrout, gwenview
[01:15] <godfather> please help
[01:15] <npster> I just used gthumb and it says this: PTP Protocol error, response expected
[01:15] <godfather> i need a programme to burn everything cd dvd and so on
[01:15] <ponsfrilus> http://mapivi.sourceforge.net/mapivi.shtml#download
[01:15] <ieldib> anyone ?
[01:15] <godfather> please give me a trick
[01:16] <okami> KenSentMe: Well sort of, I installed ipodder first to get all the dependancies then uninstalled ipodder and installed castpodder
[01:16] <Janchi> @ieldib, what is wrong withit
[01:16] <KenSentMe> okami: ah, ok
[01:16] <Janchi> Did you do a google for it already?
[01:16] <okami> KenSentMe: :-) I found ipodder to be buggy and it's not supported anymore
[01:16] <npster> I am using a Sony DSC Cyber-Shot S90
[01:17] <andybalaam> Rambo3: Isn't IVTV for analogue cards?
[01:17] <Arcainus> hi there
[01:17] <KenSentMe> okami: i used it too, but now i'm looking for something else
[01:17] <Arcainus> im having an issue with hardware raid 1
[01:17] <godfather> anyone that burns dvd and cd?
[01:17] <Arcainus> i setup raid 1 in the bios
[01:17] <Rambo3> andybalaam: i have no idea , search ubuntuforums for your card and wiki
[01:17] <npster> come on
[01:18] <okami> KenSentMe: Castpodder and Ipodder are virtually identical
[01:18] <Janchi> godfather, I use K3B, works like a charm
[01:18] <andybalaam> Rambo3: OK, thanks - I have done that, but I'll keep trying
[01:18] <KenSentMe> okami: did you install the beep media player too?
[01:18] <Arcainus> and im trying to install ubuntu server and at the partition screens it doesnt show the two disks i setup as raid 1 as one disk but 2 dicks
[01:18] <godfather> yes but i have gnome
[01:18] <ieldib> anyone ?
[01:18] <zappe> how do i block a domian to send mail to me? like blabla.com (in exim)
[01:18] <godfather> i could have some problems with k3b
[01:19] <okami> KenSentMe: No, but then again I load all my cast's onto my iaudio X5 to listen to them
[01:19] <Janchi> godfather, shouldn't be a problem. I used Synaptic to install it. I use it under Gnome without a glitch
[01:19] <jman8888> ?
[01:19] <KenSentMe> okami: do you ever listen to the LugRadio by chance? I had a problem with the file extensions of the downloads with ipodder
[01:20] <Arcainus> doe sanyone have any idea?
[01:20] <jman8888> Hey what should i do. Im installing Ubuntu on a laptop and Although its a supported wireless card(And it even says it in the ubuntu site and it should be autodetected) but in a text install it wasnt detected.
[01:20] <Janchi> godfather, did you check the regular install possibilities. There should be something like Gnomeburner
[01:20] <godfather> ok janchi
[01:20] <okami> KenSentME: Yes, I love LugRadio... I did have that problem with season 3, but season 4 seems to have fixed the problem
[01:20] <godfather> tahnk you
[01:21] <edgy> Hi, I did sudo a2enmod expires to enable the expires module but /usr/sbin/apache2 -l doesn't list it, why?
[01:21] <okami> KenSentMe: Beard and Chin :-)
[01:21] <Juhaz> npster, you should be able to set it to usb mass storage mode if ptp doesn't work
[01:22] <jman8888> Did anybody see my problem?
[01:22] <godfather> good bye
[01:22] <godfather> may the force be with you
[01:22] <Juhaz> npster, or perhaps from normal to ptp, or something, anyway check the in-camera menus
[01:22] <ieldib> can anyone help me get my ipw3945 wlan up and going ?
[01:22] <cpk2> guys i am trying to manually edit my sata drives partition on the livecd but when i go to select it the gui goes blank and i have to click the "back" button
[01:22] <ieldib> please
[01:23] <Janchi> @ ieldib, just tell us what is wrong and what you did to solve the issue already
[01:24] <ieldib> well i have tried automatix (Becuase i've read on the forums that after the install it will automatically install the drivers and all would be fine after a reboot)
[01:24] <ieldib> I have also gone into network/admin
[01:24] <ieldib> and seen that it is already sniffing out  networks
[01:24] <ieldib> (because SSID's are already stored in their)
[01:24] <ieldib> i selected my wlan
[01:24] <cpk2> i still have 50 megs on /dev/hda and am considering partitioning that as /home and then partitioning my sata later as /home is this a viable solution?
[01:24] <ieldib> put in my wep key
[01:24] <ieldib> and nothing
[01:25] <variant> ieldib: automatix is good for borking systems
[01:25] <ieldib> lol
[01:25] <ieldib> variant: i was told to install network-manager
[01:25] <ieldib> that is done
[01:25] <ieldib> except no wlan shows up in network manager
[01:26] <jman8888> hello. Can anybody tell me why my supported wirelesscard (DWL-650) Wasnt detected during install?) And how to set it up.
[01:26] <ieldib> jman8888 i'am going through a similar issue
[01:27] <ieldib> everything else is running beautifully
[01:27] <ieldib> anyone ?
[01:28] <jazzrocker> jman8888, is that a PCI wireless?
[01:28] <jman8888> jazzrocker, ?
[01:28] <jazzrocker> jman8888, is it a laptop
[01:28] <jman8888> jazzrocker, yes
[01:30] <mike1> hey how to configure my notebook to not be seen/logged on a wireless network
[01:31] <jman8888> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported <--Says it works completely out of the box. All yes's
[01:31] <jman8888> jazzrocker, So will that laptop have no internet?
[01:31] <ieldib> brb think i got it up
[01:32] <papa> cuthuan
[01:32] <mike1> no I'm just looking at not being seen (I don'[t want to pop up in someone's network folder
[01:32] <mike1> At home I share everything on the computer behind the router
[01:33] <mike1> I want to be as close to invisable as possible
[01:33] <mike1> when I'm out
[01:33] <mrDaniel_> I want to print a pdf with 'lp' in a file and not with a normal physical printer
[01:33] <mike1> really when I'm on some free wifi network or using a neigbors
[01:33] <mrDaniel_> what I have to do, so I can print in a file with lp?
[01:34] <mrDaniel_> or isn't this possible?
[01:34] <mrDaniel_> when not: how I can set a new printer under ubuntu, which automatically prints in a file?
[01:34] <mcphail> mrDaniel_: why not just use pdftoppm?
[01:35] <mrDaniel_> pdftoppm? never heard this command
[01:35] <mrDaniel_> mcphail: thank you, i will now read the man-pages a check what this command is god for
[01:39] <jman8888> A lot of people are quitting...
[01:40] <elias_> Concerning the topic of ubuntu+1: Edgy is not ment to be used on production machines ever or just not before it's final release?
[01:41] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[01:41] <rysiek|pl> suppose I've made a mistake and installed ubuntu 6.06 32bit edition on my 64bit system
[01:41] <nickspoon> doesn't really matter.
[01:42] <rysiek|pl> is there a way of - say - upgrading(?) to 64bit without reinstallation?
[01:42] <edgy> elias_: I guess not before the final release
[01:42] <nickspoon> I prefer running 32-bit for stuff like Flash and w32codecs.
[01:42] <jbleau> Does anybody know why ever since I installed edgy I can't download new packages with the add / remove? It simply hangs on "Downloading..." and never seems to make a connection.
[01:42] <jbleau> Wait!
[01:42] <jbleau> Nevermind.
[01:43] <avr_freak> Anyone to help me with Ati rage in Ubuntu ... I can't run startx ! Please in private ... Tnks
[01:43] <rysiek|pl> nickspoon: yeah, I know, but just assume I'm not interested in w32codecs and flash, but need the full 64bits working
[01:43] <rysiek|pl> so is there a way of "switching"?
[01:43] <nickspoon> rysiek|pl: no.
[01:44] <nickspoon> simple, eh?
[01:44] <nickspoon> you'd have to pretty much reinstall every package on your whole system.
[01:44] <nickspoon> so it's much easier just to download the 64-bit CD.
[01:44] <rysiek|pl> nickspoon: yeah, I know that. I was just wandering, if it's possible to mangle with sources list and do it automagically through apt
[01:45] <nickspoon> doubt it.
[01:45] <rysiek|pl> darn
[01:45] <rysiek|pl> ok, anyways - thanks
[01:47] <wwwdotcom> Does anyone know how to eject a cd from a g3 powerpc?
[01:47] <nickspoon> isn't there a button?
[01:48] <nickspoon> or just right-click on the CD icon and click Eject.
[01:48] <wwwdotcom> I see no obvious button
[01:48] <wwwdotcom> nickspoon, I can't, I have installed ubuntu, so it has to reboot, but when it does it goes to cd instead
[01:48] <wwwdotcom> and tries to reinstall
[01:49] <nickspoon> I'm fairly sure there's an Eject CD button on the keyboard.#
[01:49] <jouke> Hey, I am trying to install the adobe acrobat pdf reader. The install went fine, but now it crashes with the following error: "(acroread:13462): GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (1000)" maybe it has something to do with our ldap account system?
[01:50] <sam_k> Whats the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[01:50] <ghost> hello, i have (only) SATA HD and a normal CD/DVDrom drive, should i plug the CD/DVDROM drive into the *primary" or the *secondary* connector (as master of course)?
[01:51] <mrDaniel_> sam_k: I think that azureus is the the best client
[01:51] <nickspoon> sam_k: azureus.
[01:51] <mrDaniel_> ghost: I think this is not important
[01:51] <nickspoon> ghost: doesn't matter.
[01:51] <ghost> ok fine
[01:51] <mrDaniel_> is there a way to set a new printer under ubuntu, which print only in file?
[01:52] <sam_k> mrDaniel_ , nickspoon: Thanks for your help.
[01:52] <Samuli^> azureus? It's a memory hog.
[01:53] <nickspoon> Samuli^: to be expected with Java, but it's very nice feature-wise.
[01:53] <mrDaniel_> Samuli^: yes, you're right, but it's also the best client for bittorrent i know
[01:54] <justin_> Does anyone know of a program to copy BadCD's for Linux, it would be to copy image files -- I want it to copy as much as it possibly can, instead of saying "error" and saving nothing at all --
[01:55] <Samuli^> mrDaniel_, you might be right.
[01:55] <Samuli^> I like the original bittorrent but it definately is lean on the features.
[01:55] <DarkMageZ> Samuli^, mrDaniel_, ktorrent isn't a bad bittorrent client
[01:55] <wwwdotcom> Ok, I got the CD out, you have to hold the mouse down.  When it loads ubuntu, I have to log in, then I get something like "~$" What do I do from there?
[01:55] <Samuli^> it's great if you're using kde
[01:56] <DarkMageZ> Samuli^, i use it under gnome anyways 
[01:57] <nickspoon> wwwdotcom: gdm
[01:57] <Samuli^> wow, ktorrent didn't even install any libraries with it, under gnome.
[01:57] <ghost> i have a serious problem: my ubuntu CRASHES all the time, randomly!
[01:58] <wwwdotcom> nickspoon, it says command not found
[01:58] <nickspoon> wwwdotcom: did you use a server or desktop installer?
[01:58] <wwwdotcom> I downloaded something called "alternate"
[01:58] <elias_> Will firefox 2.0 be backported to dapper from edgy? It would be great if it would be general policy to backport the new versions of important apps like firefox and openoffice to the LTS releases!
[01:59] <nickspoon> wwwdotcom: which option did you choose when you installed, server or desktop?
[01:59] <TiZZ_> can anyone help with a zip drive problem??
[01:59] <wwwdotcom> nick, there wasn't an option
[02:00] <nickspoon> wwwdotcom: was this ubuntu or kubuntu you installed, by the way?
[02:00] <wwwdotcom> ubuntu
[02:00] <ghost> i have a serious problem: my ubuntu CRASHES all the time, randomly! what can i do to diagnose?
[02:00] <zmo> hello
[02:00] <avr_freak> what about Ubuntu an old Ati Rage Cards ? I cant run Strartx
[02:00] <Code-E> Can anybody tell me what a good iso burning software is?
[02:00] <zmo> how can I see from what repository comes a given package ?
[02:00] <Code-E> for ubuntu*
[02:00] <zmo> I forgot what command gives that
[02:00] <nickspoon> wwwdotcom: it sounds very much like you've installed the server version, meaning no GUI.
[02:01] <Janchi> @ghost. How random is random? When does it crash?
[02:01] <zmo> if anyone knows it off head
[02:01] <wwwdotcom> Code, CDBurnerSP Pro 3 is free
[02:01] <nickspoon> just to be sure, type startx
[02:01] <Code-E> thanks
[02:01] <shylock> could anyone point me to what has to be done to view movies on my tv from ubuntu? i have tried checking the forums but dont understand very much
[02:01] <ghost> Janchi: suddenly it reboots, like "hard reset"
[02:01] <wwwdotcom> nickspoon, hmm, so what can I do then?
[02:01] <Samuli^> QT-apps really look great on gnome.
[02:01] <Hoxzer> shylock: get mythtv
[02:01] <Samuli^> too bad it doesn't work the other way around.
[02:01] <Code-E> wwwdotcom: you mean CDburnerXP?
[02:02] <yalu> zmo: apt-get install package --print-uris --dry-run --reinstall
[02:02] <Janchi> Ghost, when did it start and what did you do just before that
[02:02] <utnubu> hi, trying to upgrade 6.06 ubuntu (with kubuntu retrofitted), I get "Could not calculate the upgrade". /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log says Can't mark 'kubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.)
[02:02] <wwwdotcom> Code, yes
[02:02] <avr_freak> Nothing
[02:02] <Code-E> thanks
[02:02] <utnubu> anything i can do to further diagnose / fix this
[02:02] <wwwdotcom> it says Pro 3 on my icon text
[02:02] <zmo> yalu - yeah, that's a way, thanks, though I know there's a better way to get it
[02:02] <shylock> Hoxzer: will i still have to hack around in Xorg.conf with MythTV=
[02:02] <ghost> Janchi: i just installed ubuntu, then i wanted to transfer files from windows machine to ubuntu
[02:02] <Code-E> wwwdotcom: this is windows software
[02:02] <zmo> yalu - apt-cache policy is that way :)
[02:02] <zmo> thanks all
[02:02] <zmo> +
[02:02] <ghost> and then *bang*-crash
[02:02] <wwwdotcom> Code, yes it is
[02:03] <nickspoon> wwwdotcom: run startx, and if that doesn't work, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop.
[02:03] <Janchi> Ghost, any files larger than 4 Gb?
[02:03] <Code-E> But I need one for linux ubuntu
[02:03] <ghost> Janchi: don't think so
[02:03] <ghost> Janchi: it does also crash when doing nothing
[02:04] <furesta> Hi all, just a quick question, does anybody have dapper running on an ASROCK 939NF4G SATA2 mobo? Any issues? Should be my next buy...
[02:04] <wwwdotcom> nick, had to do the second, and now the screen is flying with text lol
[02:04] <nickspoon> good.
[02:04] <variant> Code-E: cdrecord is ideal
[02:04] <Janchi> Ghost, I would suggest to to take the easy road this time: complete reinstall. Maybe something did not go well. It happens
[02:04] <nickspoon> wwwdotcom: follow the instructions :)
[02:04] <wwwdotcom> Code, you can burn as an image file, it doesn't matter the platform
[02:04] <Janchi> Ghost, it only takes 30 minutes.
[02:04] <variant> Code-E: cdrecord /dev/cdrom filename.iso
[02:04] <Warbo> Hello, I want to make a Wiki on my freewebs.com site. Is that possible, and where would be a good place to start researching?
[02:04] <ghost> Janchi: reinstall everything?
[02:04] <Code-E> thanks
[02:04] <ghost> hmm
[02:05] <nickspoon> Code-E: nautilus has an ISO burner built in.
[02:05] <ghost> isn't there a beter way
[02:05] <Janchi> Warbo, try the wiki site. Tons of software
[02:05] <wwwdotcom> nickspoon, now it is asking me to insert a disk
[02:05] <variant> Code-E: if you want a large program to do it then k3b is excellent, much better than the likes of nero
[02:05] <wwwdotcom> it failed and then aborted
[02:05] <Code-E> ok
[02:05] <Code-E> well i gotta go
[02:05] <Code-E> bai
[02:05] <Janchi> Ghost, since it is a fresh install that would be the easy way, yes. You can try to copy the files later on again.
[02:05] <avr_freak> i will try the desktop edition .... IOf tey didnt work ?
[02:05] <nickspoon> wwwdotcom: put in the Ubuntu CD.
[02:05] <johan1> can anyone tell me what decoders need to be loaded for totem to worl PLZ????
[02:06] <nickspoon> then run that command again.
[02:06] <wwwdotcom> nick, the same alternate one?
[02:06] <nickspoon> yep.
[02:06] <utnubu> sigh, guess i can't upgrade to eft then
[02:06] <Overand> uh
[02:06] <Overand> eft isn't 'done' yet
[02:06] <utnubu> i know
[02:06] <Janchi> Ghost, I had some problems with other installs before. A clean reinstall fixed that
[02:07] <wwwdotcom> ok, it's continuing
[02:07] <brush01uk> Greetings Everyone, have a Good Weekend, Barry
[02:07] <utnubu> i'll give it another go when it's final
[02:07] <utnubu> otherwise it's back to windows
[02:07] <johan1> Hi all! Can anyone help me with TOTEM and decoders?
[02:07] <brush01uk> as a newbie.just taking notes
[02:07] <zmo> re
[02:08] <nickspoon> johan1: what do you want to know?
[02:08] <zmo> actually, I'm trying to install Xgl/compiz on a friend's computer as I did on mine
[02:08] <johan1> totem wont work - says I may need to load decoders - where from and what are they called?
[02:08] <brush01uk> Johan1, have you tryed Easyubuntu ?
[02:08] <nickspoon> johan1: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[02:09] <johan1> thanks heaps!!!!
[02:09] <zmo> but there's a weird issue: I can't find from what sources I got compiz-manager, cgwd and other packages...
[02:09] <nickspoon> !multimedia
[02:09] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:09] <zmo> I'm pretty sure I downloaded them from the compiz.net source
[02:09] <brush01uk> its a great program,will setup your codecs
[02:09] <nickspoon> zmo: ubuntu's compiz repository is a bit weird at the moment.
[02:09] <zmo> anyone knows anything about that, or could point me in the right direction ?
[02:10] <cpk2> will i cause problems for myself if I set a ntfs partition to /home until I can format it as ext3 after the install from the live cd?
[02:10] <Samuli^> I don't think zmo is using the repository.
[02:10] <brush01uk> in each area,   just tick three at a time
[02:10] <zmo> nickspoon - oh, ok... and do you know when it will be ok, or well shall I refer to in order to know when it's ok, and what to do ?
[02:10] <nickspoon> zom: the standard repositories + multiverse contain compiz, compiz-gnome/kde and xserver-xgl, which is all you need.
[02:10] <Samuli^> zmo, are you pulling the source from cvs and compiling yourself or what?
[02:10] <ghost> for enabling extra repos: do i only have to enable the "non-free" on the first, official ubuntu 6.06 LTS or also on the community one?
[02:10] <zmo> Samuli^ - lol, I'm not, Ionly installed packages
[02:11] <nickspoon> ghost: both.
[02:11] <Samuli^> nickspoon, but they are hopelessly out of date.
[02:11] <zmo> I followed a pretty simple howto, and it was done in matter of minutes
[02:11] <ghost> nickspoon: it says something with "duplicated"
[02:11] <nickspoon> Samuli^: works fine here.
[02:11] <zmo> but for everybody else, it seems a lot of trouble:p
[02:11] <nickspoon> ghost: don't then ;)
[02:11] <zmo> !compiz
[02:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:12] <Samuli^> nickspoon, sure it does, but configuring for example is much better done with the newer packages and compiz manager + you can change your window-decorations etc.
[02:12] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[02:12] <zmo> hm... gonna check #ubuntu-xgl :)
[02:12] <Ti_Uhl> is there a different channel for ubuntu server ?
[02:12] <Ti_Uhl> or can i get help here ?
[02:12] <ghost> nickspoon: so where? community or official?
[02:13] <nickspoon> official.
[02:13] <ghost> and also for the source?
[02:13] <tapas> hmm, if i want to deliver signals across thread boundaries, will this work if the thread is not a QThread, too?
[02:13] <tapas> queued events that is
[02:13] <brush01uk> hi, Ti_Uh1
[02:14] <tapas> ah well, i can just use a QThread as well i suppose
[02:14] <zyclop> I have 2 NICs in my PC and whenever eth0 (lan) is pinged it goes "arp who has x tell y" on eth1 (internet) => no echo reply. what is happening and what can i do against that?
[02:14] <furesta> No one using an ASROCK mobo?
[02:15] <tapas> but i have a phread used already, so i'd like to save some work :)
[02:15] <Ti_Uhl> i'm trying to install raid1 with soft Raid, i'm using 2 physical drives, wich are identical, but when the software raid is set up and i want to create a partition, the remaining space is marked as unavailable, wich means i can't create more then one partition ?
[02:15] <Czech> Hi
[02:15] <tapas> also can the signal and slot live in the same class? and even the same object
[02:15] <Samuli^> furesta, it's not so much whose motherboard it is, but rather what chipset it has nforce4, uli m1967 etc.
[02:15] <tapas> oops
[02:15] <tapas> wrong channel
[02:15] <ghost> www.google.ch
[02:16] <furesta> Samuli, it's an ASROCK 939NF4G SATA2.
[02:16] <Forth> Hi
[02:16] <Samuli^> furesta, so that'd be nforce4 judging from the name.
[02:17] <zyclop> anyone in here got experiences with using 2 network cards in one box?
[02:17] <Ti_Uhl> is't it possible to create more then 1 partition with software raid1 ?
[02:17] <furesta> Samuli, you're right, with integrated nvidia graphics controller, I'm looking for someone who already uses it with dapper
[02:18] <Samuli^> zyclop, I have two.
[02:18] <Forth> anyone using freemind on ppc ?
[02:18] <shriphani> hmm downloading lfs now
[02:18] <frogzoo> zyclop: you using a firewall/iptables ?
[02:18] <shriphani> maybe i can create my own linux
[02:18] <zyclop> Samuli^: nope
[02:19] <zyclop> Samuli^: whoops, i meant frogzoo
[02:19] <zyclop> frogzoo: the answer to your question is: no, i do not use a firewall nor do i use iptables
[02:20] <frogzoo> zyclop: the mac addies correct in /etc/iftab ?
[02:20] <Samuli^> zyclop, so what's your problem?
[02:20] <zyclop> frogzoo: wich question are you answering to?
[02:21] <Samuli^> zyclop, so what you want is to share the internet connection?
[02:21] <zyclop> Samuli^: yes, it already worked once or twice and then it didn't
[02:22] <Samuli^> zyclop, by far the easiest way is to use iptables/firestarter.
[02:23] <zyclop> Samuli^: routing works without problem, it's just that eth0 doesn't respond to ping
[02:24] <zyclop> Samuli^: or any other packets
[02:24] <frogzoo> zyclop: you can see its mac from ifconfig ? also, check /etc/iftab
[02:25] <Samuli^> zyclop, are you sure you have set the ports, allowed ip-addresses etc. right?
[02:26] <zyclop> frogzoo: the mac addresses are correct, as is /etc/iftab
[02:26] <Ti_Uhl> i'm trying to install raid1 with soft Raid, i'm using 2 physical drives, wich are identical, but when the software raid is set up and i want to create a partition, the remaining space is marked as unavailable, wich means i can't create more then one partition ?
[02:26] <Ti_Uhl> anyone ?
[02:27] <zyclop> Samuli^: the packets reach their destination but eth0 asks for the box that pinged it via eth1
[02:27] <frogzoo> zyclop: the nics are wired to separate hubs ?
[02:27] <frogzoo> zyclop: the nics are allocated ips in separate subnets ?
[02:28] <zyclop> frogzoo: yes, eth1 is wired to the internet and eth0 to the LAN
[02:28] <frogzoo> zyclop: you checked 'route -n' is sensible ?
[02:29] <zyclop> frogzoo: wait, that might be it: eth1 is 192.168.0.1 and eth0 is 192.168.0.3
[02:29] <frogzoo> zyclop: that will give you a real mess
[02:29] <_Rappy_> synaptic says I have php4.4 installed, but when I type i.e. php -v in the console, it says "no such command"
[02:29] <zyclop> frogzoo: thats what i figured out by now
[02:30] <XiXaQ> _Rappy_, perhaps you only have apache module installed and not php itself?
[02:30] <TeePOG> hi hi
[02:31] <zyclop> frogzoo: so, are there any dangers in deleting the entry for eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:31] <frogzoo> zyclop: only that eth1 won't work anymore - just give eth1 a different subnet
[02:32] <_Rappy_> XiXaQ : I have the package named only php4 and php4-common. I would think those are the right ones, no? unless i ned the cli too?
[02:32] <zyclop> frogzoo: wich subnet is safe? or can i just enter a random number?
[02:33] <frogzoo> zyclop: anything in 192.168.x.0   - just use different x's with a 255.255.255.0 netmask
[02:33] <tiede> Hello. I have a set of games (The xmpuzzles package to be exact) and although the appear in the debian menu entry, they won't open unless i type them in a terminal. How do I go about making them behave correctly?
[02:34] <TeePOG> tell me guys, why would a user not be able to launch an app from the command line? it works from my login, but when I su to the new account, it says "Xlib: Connection to :0:0 refused by server"
[02:34] <zyclop> frogzoo: well, thanks a bunch, you brought a little ray of happiness into my dull life
[02:34] <POVaddct> zyclop: you want to learn about routing and subnetting, you want to learn about reserved ip address ranges for private networks
[02:34] <Vizack> Hello.
[02:34] <frogzoo> zyclop: enjoy
[02:35] <tiede> TeePOG,  is it a GUI app.?
[02:35] <zyclop> POVaddct: already done, but thanks
[02:35] <POVaddct> zyclop: okay
[02:35] <frogzoo> POVaddct: mostly people just want it to work ;)
[02:35] <TeePOG> yes tiede, it's VMware Player... i set the permissions to 777, so it's not that
[02:35] <Samuli^> TeePOG, it's the su you're using.
[02:35] <Vizack> Ubuntu 6.06 installer hangs to keyboard selection, what could be the problem?
[02:36] <TeePOG> ohhh Samuli^, so if i login to the terminal directly, it should work?
[02:36] <POVaddct> frogzoo: yeah, i know. but if people only given recipes and don't know the basics behind that, the will ask again and again...
[02:36] <bones> hello
[02:36] <Vizack> Not totally, I can cancel it and start again, but allways the same thing.
[02:36] <bones> im having trouble with xgl/nvidia drivers
[02:36] <Samuli^> TeePOG, if you login to terminal you don't have X running, so no. :)
[02:36] <tiede> I was not touching on permissions just yet, TeePOG. I was rather thinking along the lines of has X been started???
[02:36] <bones> i installed nvidia drivers from the site
[02:36] <frogzoo> POVaddct: fair point
[02:37] <TeePOG> i mean, Samuli^, that if I login to that user's desktop and open a console there, it should work?
[02:37] <Samuli^> TeePOG, but use sudo instead or there's options for su to allow X-applications to start too, I think. 'man su'
[02:37] <bones> can someone help  me with my nvidia xgl problem?
[02:37] <TeePOG> tiede: it is... i'm in ti right now
[02:37] <Samuli^> TeePOG, yeah. If it doesn't need root-priviledges that is.
[02:37] <TeePOG> no Samuli^, strictly userland
[02:38] <Samuli^> it should work.
[02:38] <bones> anyone know how to remove the nvidia website driver?
[02:38] <froud> Does d-i on Ubuntu work with kickstart files created using system-config-kickstart ?
[02:38] <TeePOG> well, will brb, trying that
[02:38] <Vizack> "ubiquity: Watching for question patterns ^kbd-chooser/method$, ^console-keymaps.*/keymap$, ERROR" ...in installer/syslog.
[02:41] <tiede> So back to my question: I have a set of games (The xmpuzzles package to be exact) and although the appear in the debian menu entry, they won't open unless i type them in a terminal. How do I go about making them behave correctly? Any Ideas?
[02:41] <bones> does xgl work with the nvidia website driver?
[02:41] <zyclop> tiede: wich window manager do you use?
[02:42] <tiede> I use the basic Gnome+Nautilus+Metacity configuration packaged in Ubuntu
[02:43] <zyclop> tiede: well, i know next to nothing about gnome, but you should check the menu file for errors
[02:44] <zyclop> tiede: or check the menu with whatever application you use to edit your menu
[02:44] <Samuli^> tiede, that menu-editor would be ala carte
[02:45] <avr_freak> default username / Pasword for Ubuntu - Server ?????
[02:46] <zyclop> tiede: well, check out the xmpuzzles entry
[02:46] <tiede> They only appears in the debian menu, so I *know* they do not conform to the standard ubuntu .desktop system zyclop. I will however see if Alacarte can shed some light on it Samuli^
[02:47] <tiede> I wanted to keep the games, zyclop so my 8-yr-old cousin can just click to play them, w/o havig to go to a terminal and type them in
[02:48] <avr_freak> default username / Pasword for Ubuntu - Server ?????
[02:48] <Samuli^> tiede, it would be as simple as making a menu entry for the game and make it launch whatever the game's name is.
[02:49] <zyclop> tiede: how about a desktop icon?
[02:49] <bones> my xserver witi xgl says it cant find libglx.so
[02:49] <Samuli^> tiede, but anyways, check the debian-menu menu-entry's to see what's wrong with them.
[02:49] <tiede> we are talking more than 20 games, that is way too much for my desktop ;)
[02:50] <zyclop> tiede: yeah, check the menu-entry
[02:50] <TeePOG> thanks tiede and Samuli^, i got it working
[02:50] <elias_> how is dapper with ntfs?
[02:51] <tiede> I checked the menu entries in Alacarte Samuli^, and nothing seems wrong.... I even ticked the 'launch in a terminal' box to test one of them but it does nothing...
[02:51] <XiXaQ> elias_, Linux isn't good with ntfs. It's possible to read from it, but not recommended.
[02:51] <Samuli^> elias_, you can read from ntfs just fine.
[02:51] <TheMafia> does crossover office make itunes 7 work?
[02:51] <TheMafia> I can't seem to get itunes working with my ipod and vmware server
[02:51] <Samuli^> XiXaQ, reading is unharmful. Writing is what's bad for you :)
[02:51] <Amaranth> TheMafia: doubtful
[02:52] <Amaranth> iTunes 7 just came ou
[02:52] <Amaranth> err, out
[02:52] <Janchi> Elias, read from NTFS is fine, but writing sucks
[02:52] <elias_> Need to write to NTFS. How about ntfs3g or how this project was called that promised full NTFS support pretty soon.
[02:52] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[02:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:52] <Amaranth> !fuse
[02:52] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:52] <Samuli^> elias_, I'm using it with no problems, but, still.. :)
[02:52] <zyclop> tiede: what exactly is the command for the entry?
[02:52] <TheMafia> Amaranth, ok, how disapopointing.
[02:52] <Samuli^> !ntfs-3g
[02:52] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[02:52] <XiXaQ> elias_, it's possible to write to ntfs, but do you really need ntfs, or could you maybe use vfat instead?
[02:52] <Samuli^> that is what I'd recommend.
[02:53] <tiede> /usr/games/xmtriangle is one of em', for example zyclop
[02:54] <peace-keeper> is there a place where i can download compiled kernels?
[02:54] <zyclop> tiede: does that entry work if you run it on the terminal?
[02:54] <Samuli^> peace-keeper, the repositories? :)
[02:54] <peace-keeper> hum
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> XiXaQ, fat is a horrible FS though :(
[02:55] <Samuli^> really annoying.
[02:55] <Samuli^> breaks easily, fragments, doesn't support files over 4GB..
[02:55] <XiXaQ> Kamping_Kaiser, ntfs is a horrible fs for any GNU/Linux system. VFat is more suited when you absolutely have to share a partition between win32 and GNU/Linux
[02:55] <tiede> Yes it work from the terminal zyclop . It just won't work from the menu...
[02:55] <TheMafia> is there anything that handles podcasts well and sync's with the ipod?
[02:56] <TheMafia> amarok continues to freeze on me
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> XiXaQ, i cant speak from experiance here, so i'm pulling out of this convo now :)
[02:56] <zyclop> tiede: the exact entry copied directly into the terminal?
[02:56] <elias_> what is the max partition size for vfat?
[02:56] <tiede> yup
[02:56] <Amaranth> TheMafia: You probably have to upgrade to edgy to get support for your iPod if you've every used it with iTunes 7 and/or just bought it in the last two weeks.
[02:56] <Samuli^> elias_, something like 2,5TB or so.
[02:57] <Amaranth> ext2 works on linux and windows
[02:57] <zyclop> tiede: hmmm
[02:57] <cpk2> what runlevel starts kdm?
[02:57] <Amaranth> There is no journaled filesystem that works on more than one OS though, sadle.
[02:57] <Amaranth> err, sadly
[02:58] <XiXaQ> Amaranth, windows reads and writes to ext2 fs? I thought you had to install additional software for that..
[02:58] <Amaranth> XiXaQ: You do.
[02:58] <Amaranth> XiXaQ: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:59] <shylock> can anyone please tell me what command starts the graphic mysql admin?
[02:59] <tiede> zyclop, I copied and pasted it to the terminal just to make sure a i wasn't accidently fixing it while typing. It runs from the terminal, but won't open in the menu. The same game. quite fishy.
[03:00] <zyclop> tiede: my last suggestion would be to check the "run in terminal" box
[03:00] <netG> hi i'm new to Gnome , I used KDE in the past...  Is there something like xkill tool (ctrl-alt-esc) in gnome?
[03:00] <cpk2> just installed from the live cd, i am stuck at a run level prompt, doesnt seem to be picking up my usb keyboard
[03:00] <tiede> I already did so to no avail... :)
[03:00] <EkUmBa> does anyone know a program like bid o magic for ubuntu?
[03:01] <tiede> netG, use killall <program>
[03:01] <netG> tiede: I know this ;-)
[03:02] <JimyLinux11> SUGGESTION...
[03:02] <zyclop> tiede: does it work when invoked with a desktop icon?
[03:02] <JimyLinux11> Korean Government make the Official Linux Standard..."Buyo"
[03:02] <TheMafia> Amaranth, I thought dapper was the latest?  Can I upgrade dapper to edgy or do I have to do a reinstall?
[03:02] <JimyLinux11> And, Buyo standard will be china and japan linux standard.(Buyo will be? no. Buyo will be compatible...or support...)
[03:02] <netG> But is not what I'm asking for..
[03:02] <JimyLinux11> So, I want that ubuntu must support Buyo standard.(by apt-get, rpm, etc upgrade method)
[03:02] <Amaranth> TheMafia: edgy is beta
[03:02] <tiede> You can also place a killall applet on the gnome-bar to speed up the process. It is found in the add panel items menu, netG
[03:02] <TheMafia> I bought it in the last two weeks but never used it with itunes 7, only tried, itunes doesn't work right in an emulator
[03:02] <tiede> Let me tr it, zyclop
[03:03] <EkUmBa> does anyone know a program like bid o magic for ubuntu?
[03:03] <tucoz> I can never remember how to get usplash back to ubuntu after a kubuntu install. And unfortunatley the link ubuto gave me is empty
[03:03] <tucoz> *ubotu
[03:03] <strav> hey there... quick question: there are some packages I'm looking for that I can only find in the amd64 version... Any particular reason I should not install this on intel? (beside it's written amd64?)
[03:03] <netG> tiede: thanks this is what I'm looking for!!!
[03:03] <Amaranth> TheMafia: sudo "update-manager -c -d"
[03:03] <Amaranth> TheMafia: That should offer to upgrade you to edgy
[03:04] <Amaranth> oh, no it won't
[03:05] <Amaranth> TheMafia: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[03:05] <TheMafia> Amaranth, how beta is edgy?  I am a redhat guy that has recently switched to ubuntu, is edgy real unstable
[03:05] <Amaranth> TheMafia: Remember, before you do that, edgy is still beta and about a month away from release.
[03:05] <tiede> zyclop, It won't open from a desktop icon neither... hmm
[03:05] <Amaranth> TheMafia: Works great for me, not so great for others.
[03:05] <tiede> you're welcome netG!
[03:06] <t9k232> hello
[03:06] <t9k232> I'm installing Ubuntu on a Windows virtual machine
[03:06] <Amaranth> tucoz: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[03:06] <zyclop> tiede: does it work with some other window manager?
[03:06] <t9k232> on the virtual machine, there is a fat32 partition with Windows already installed
[03:07] <TheMafia> Amaranth, when it is officially released, will the beta version upgrade?
[03:07] <t9k232> but, when I try to use the partitioning software included in the "install"
[03:07] <LjL> t9k232: sorry if i cut you off before you even start explaining, but why don't you just use a fresh virtual machine?
[03:07] <Amaranth> TheMafia: yep
[03:07] <netG> color test
[03:07] <tiede> ooh, I'd have to install another one to test it zyclop... what do you think? Sawfish?
[03:07] <netG> color test
[03:07] <t9k232> LjL: it's to try the GRUB
[03:08] <LjL> t9k232: ok
[03:08] <Amaranth> TheMafia: It'll actually offer to update once a day from today on so you'll get to 6.10 final a bit at a time without one massive upgrade later.
[03:08] <t9k232> when trying to partition the hard disk
[03:08] <t9k232> I have the following problem
[03:08] <t9k232> I can't see Used and Unused space
[03:09] <t9k232> so i can't resize the partition
[03:09] <t9k232> (FAT32)
[03:09] <LjL> t9k232: is that VMWare?
[03:09] <tucoz> Amaranth, i think i had to run a second command after that. to merge it to the kernel image (i think).
[03:09] <t9k232> yes, it is
[03:09] <zyclop> tiede: how far would you go for that game?
[03:10] <t9k232> Unable to read the content of this filesystem. because of this some operations may be unavailable.
[03:10] <t9k232> etc etc
[03:10] <josh_> hey, quick question... who in here know alot about ssh and how can i get a message to users trying to log in
[03:10] <LjL> t9k232: bah... that feels like a problem with the way vmware simulates HDs to me, to be honest
[03:10] <netG_> is there a good looking IRC client for Gnome? I used Konversation in KDE
[03:11] <LjL> t9k232: though i don't seem to find any relevant reference to the problem on google
[03:11] <tiede> it's a bunch of them, not just one. And they're for my little cousin... But I think I'll just uninstall them until better solution is found zyclop
[03:11] <josh_> netG_: Xchat
[03:11] <t9k232> maybe the problem is due to the snapshot I created
[03:11] <t9k232> so there is a virtual hard disk part of a virtual hard disk
[03:12] <t9k232> maybe gparted doesn't understand that correctly
[03:12] <LjL> t9k232: uhm, you've lost me on that. i don't know what's that nexted HD thing in vmware
[03:12] <zyclop> tiede: wait, maybe they are designed for xfce
[03:13] <[GuS] > if someone wants to test Beryl, here the packages for Edgy: http://rapidshare.de/files/34864047/Beryl_28-09-2006.tar.gz.html
[03:13] <zyclop> tiede: that would explain quite a bit
[03:13] <t9k232> LjL: no problem ;) thanks very much for your support
[03:13] <t9k232> I'll try to do another test
[03:14] <tiede> xmpuzzles	games	collection of puzzles for X (Motif version)  No xfce mentionned... It is listed in thme MOTU wiki page though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/NoDesktopFile
[03:15] <erkintek> hi I have a problem on my labtop
[03:15] <netG> test
[03:15] <zyclop> tiede: well, we reached the end of my knowledge. I have no idea what is going on
[03:15] <thedash> umm, I got an error when I booted this morning: Internal Error: Failed to intitalize HAL!
[03:15] <LjL> netG: we hear you
[03:15] <thedash> I think that can't be good
[03:15] <erkintek> When I connect second monitor, My sys gots so slow
[03:15] <netG> color test ;-)
[03:15] <erkintek> It doesnt matter wheather I'm on X or not
[03:16] <tiede> It's ok. Thanks for trying so hard though... Do you think this is bug-worthy?
[03:16] <zyclop> erkintek: i just want to know: how did you connect the second monitor?
[03:16] <damned> still nobody who got troubles wight edgy+nvidia-glx?
[03:16] <bones> how come direct render isnt on?
[03:16] <zyclop> tiede: well, the developers might want to know about this
[03:16] <LjL> !edgy
[03:16] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:16] <erkintek> zyclop: from back, connector, its crt, 915G
[03:17] <tiede> will file a bug in malone. Thanks so much zyclop
[03:18] <plb> so it's official debian is renaming firefox...wonder if ubuntu will get the same
[03:18] <erkintek> It's a kernel issue,
[03:18] <plb> do*
[03:18] <LjL> plb: hope so (as you know)
[03:18] <plb> hehe
[03:19] <zyclop> plb: what are they renaming it to?
[03:19] <LjL> plb: what's it renaming it to?
[03:19] <zyclop> heh
[03:19] <erkintek> I closed kdm :) but slowind down and high cpu
[03:19] <plb> dunno they didn't say yet
[03:19] <plb> http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=16009
[03:20] <heta> hi
[03:20] <thedash> is there any way to actively check a hard drive to see if it returns any errors anywhere on it?
[03:20] <heta> any1 knows if there is a how to for installing nvidia drivers and xgl on edgy? tried but didn't find any on forums/wiki
[03:20] <thedash> like chkdsk or something?
[03:22] <LjL> thedash: fsck
[03:22] <josh_> how do i display a message to users before they log in to the computer? (a Disclimer in otherwords)
[03:22] <LjL> josh_: /etc/motd, for text logins
[03:22] <thedash> LjL:: I was looking more for an entire disk, not just a filesystem
[03:22] <josh_> im looking for one BEFORE they log in... motd is after a sucessful login
[03:23] <LjL> thedash: well, chkdsk check a partition AFAIK... anyway, if you want to check an *entire* disk, then i assume it means you want to check for *physical* defects, like bad blocks or worse.  i don't know of any bad-sector-checking packages on Linux, but you might want to try smartmontools (run "smartctl -A /dev/hdwhatever") to see what your HD's health is like
[03:23] <jrib> josh_: for ssh or for all logins?
[03:23] <CreativePony> through what means does one get dapper to upgrade to whatever the latest release beta is?
[03:24] <LjL> thedash: that's -- of course -- a S.M.A.R.T. data monitoring program
[03:24] <josh_> jrib, ssh
[03:24] <josh_> i have set a banner but that doesn't work
[03:24] <jrib> josh_: you can set a Banner in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I have mine set to:  Banner /etc/issue.net
[03:24] <jrib> oh...
[03:24] <josh_> lol
[03:25] <jrib> josh_: you restarted ssh?
[03:25] <josh_> yeah been there.... doesn't show before "login:"
[03:25] <josh_> that i haven't done yet....
[03:25] <josh_> and i cant because im not at home
[03:25] <josh_> im at work on my computer right now lol
[03:25] <josh_> well i suppose i could just init 6 it...
[03:25] <josh_> that way i know its coming back up
[03:25] <josh_> good point
[03:25] <josh_> brb
[03:28] <CreativePony> i'm trying to run gksu "update-manager -c -d".. and its offering the upgrade to 6.10, and downloads two files, then disapears, seeming to just, silently crash
[03:30] <Zaggynl> wtb: a safe way to write to NTFS :(
[03:31] <lupine_85> the safe way to write to NTFS is to use Windows in VMWare to do it
[03:31] <Zaggynl> !
[03:31] <Zaggynl> I have vmware running winxp as we speak
[03:31] <Zaggynl> howto?!
[03:31] <haroldo> what was the off topic channel?
[03:31] <haroldo> name
[03:31] <Zaggynl> !offtopic
[03:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:32] <Dr_willis> ntfs-3g i hear works decently well.. (never tried it)
[03:32] <haroldo> !offtopic
[03:32] <lupine_85> you need to give it your NTFS partition as a drive
[03:32] <Zaggynl> hrm
[03:32] <Zaggynl> 'map network drive' ?
[03:32] <lupine_85> ntfs-3g works quite well now, apparently, but it's still got a possibility of eating your data and sleeping with your cat
[03:32] <haroldo> thx
[03:33] <Dr_willis> lupine_85,  they fixed that "sterilizing your dog bug" eh?
[03:33] <Samuli^> ntfs-3g works fine for me. At least has worked for 2 weeks now.
[03:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:33] <paolob> Hi guys! My ubuntu pc has 2 nics: the first is always eth0, but the 2nd is sometimes eth1 and other times eth2. How can I fix that? thank you!
[03:33] <lupine_85> DR_willis - yes, it doesn't do that any more
[03:33] <lupine_85> which isn't much comfort to the cat
[03:33] <brian98> offtopic: :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm
[03:33] <Zaggynl> lupine_85, would you know how to map the drive?
[03:34] <Zaggynl> lol, clinton supporting ubuntu, cool
[03:34] <lupine_85> Zaggynl: you need to edit the .vmdk (?) file
[03:34] <lupine_85> plenty of how-tos about
[03:35] <Zaggynl> ah okay, thanks
[03:35] <lupine_85> just make sure the ntfs drive is umounted, and use /dev/<?>
[03:36] <Zaggynl> hm so I can't keep it mounted in linux, sounds obvious yes
[03:37] <cpk2> what would be the best way to format my sata drive and make it /home?
[03:37] <HetaUma> I have installed ubuntu. Is there any meta file that I should sellect in order to downlad all kde packages that come with kubuntu?
[03:38] <jrib> HetaUma: kubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <mipstien> i have some sort of bad file or files on my computer and i can't locate it, is there a way to locate it?
[03:39] <HetaUma> jrib ty
[03:42] <tiede> paolob, do you have more than two network cards. Check in your lspci...
[03:44] <daurn> !screenshot
[03:44] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp. Screenshots can be posted on the !pastebin
[03:45] <paolob> tiede, no, they are 2
[03:45] <DistroMan> Installed ubuntu server. It's running fine.  Mail server running fine.  Cups wants me to give a name and password and mine don't work.  Is there a default admin password for cups on ubuntu server?
[03:45] <LjL> ubotu no, Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp.
[03:45] <mipstien> is there a bash command to reinstall all your current apt programs?
[03:46] <DeadSouL> How can I make Dell Latitude D500's Fn button work in Kubuntu?
[03:46] <tiede> that is fishy. Do you have more than one manager for them. Check your /etc/network/interfaces file for messy entries.
[03:46] <main2> can i use AIGLX on ubuntu(dapper) ? :-))
[03:46] <LjL> mipstien: i don't think so, but "dpkg --get-selections | grep install" will list all the installed packages... should be possible to write a short script to reinstall them all
[03:46] <main2> (btw, i got a NVIDIA card)
[03:47] <LjL> mipstien: perhaps    dpkg --get-selections | grep install | awk ' { print "apt-get --reinstall install " $1 } ' | sh           <--- use at own risk
[03:47] <main2> can i use AIGLX on ubuntu(dapper) ? :-))
[03:47] <cpk2> I am formatting a drive right now and want to make it /home after I format it, but am not sure on how to do this?
[03:48] <Skrot> Hi. I've got a debian box setup with 1 disc running normal ext3+swap, and 4 discs running in a LVM setup. I want to install ubuntu on that box. Do I need to take a backup of the LVM configuration or anything of that sort, or will the (k)ubuntu installer detect it and mount it?
[03:48] <mipstien> hmm, that sorta worked, it only went through about 10 things though
[03:48] <LjL> mipstien: and then?
[03:49] <tiede> that is fishy. Do you have more than one manager for them. Check your /etc/network/interfaces file for messy entries paolob
[03:49] <mipstien> nothing just reinstalled about 10 things, but it didn't crash like synaptic did
[03:50] <LjL> mipstien: hm, i'm not too surprised that it doesn't work smoothly, but i find the *way* it's not working sort of puzzling
[03:50] <mipstien> lyl: where can i get a completely clean boot script?
[03:50] <LjL> mipstien: "boot script" in what sense?
[03:51] <mipstien> ljl: basically the script that loads everything during the bootup. one that mounts your drives and checks them. i'd like the one from a base install
[03:51] <LjL> mipstien: there's not even close to a single script doing that... it's all the scripts in /etc/init.d, basically
[03:51] <LjL> mipstien: don't know where you'd find them
[03:52] <mipstien> ljl: im having trouble on bootup with e2fsck failing
[03:52] <saquib> >> HELP: I'm constantly getting this eror, even when i update my apt-get! Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main libnspr4 2:1.firefox1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 "404 not found"
[03:52] <LjL> mipstien: failing like what?
[03:52] <frogzoo> mipstien: dpkg -S /etc/init.d
[03:52] <daurn> uh
[03:52] <daurn> how do you deselect stuff in the gimp?
[03:53] <mipstien> lyl: it says there is something wrong with my disk, but if i check it there is nothing. but i did end up reinstalling and was fine after that. but i had backed up my old system information so i could just copy it over to this new install and it borught the problem with it
[03:53] <frogzoo> daurn: ctrl left mouse ?
[03:54] <infidel> i need help setting up telnet
[03:54] <saquib> >> HELP: I'm constantly getting this eror, even when i update my apt-get! Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main libnspr4 2:1.firefox1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 "404 not found" CAN ANYONE PLEASE GIVE ME A SERVER ADDRESS WHERE I CAN GET THE LATEST KERNELS FROM? ***
[03:54] <LjL> mipstien: well, that's not the sort of backup you're supposed to do... calls for trouble.. usually you only backup your /home, and possibly /usr/local and /etc (but the latter you don't restore blindly, but only keep for checking purposes)
[03:54] <LjL> !caps
[03:54] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:55] <daurn> frogzoo: nope
[03:55] <erUSUL> !repeat > saquib
[03:55] <LjL> saquib, i've accessed security about 10 minutes ago and it worked. perhaps you should just wait a little while if the server is down, or your routing is
[03:55] <mipstien> lyl: does that reinstall your apt programs?
[03:55] <jisatsu> I've got some files on an NTFS partition which I've mounted into Ubuntu. Now, most of the files show up, but the files and folders with Japanese names don't show up at all, any idea how I can fix that?
[03:55] <erUSUL> !kernel > saquib
[03:56] <LjL> mipstien: nope. for that, you should do "dpkg --get-selections >some-file-of-your-choice", and then to restore, "dpkg --set-selections <that-very-file"
[03:56] <LjL> mipstien: anyway, just keep this in mind for the future, but i guess it's not solving your problem right now
[03:56] <saquib> LjL> i cant go into that repository since 2 days.. i dont understand, what should I do? any other way?
[03:56] <LjL> saquib: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[03:57] <mipstien> ljl: i don't understand how the dpkg command would work for me to reget or reinstall my old apt program's?
[03:58] <saquib> LjL> i tired many combinations from source-o-matic as well.... my other repos work, but this creates prob! By the way, whats the PASTEBIN? If i just paste here, it would be flooded!
[03:58] <LjL> mipstien: well, "dpkg --get-selections" dumps a list of all packages you have installed.  "dpkg --set-selections" expects a similar list, and it install whatever doesn't match
[03:58] <LjL> !paste
[03:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:58] <pking> is there a textbased webbrowser for ubuntu
[03:58] <LjL> mipstien: for what it's worth, "fsck" seems to be called from /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh and /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh -- if you want, i can give you my ones
[03:59] <LjL> pking: links2
[03:59] <mipstien> actually, i don't believe fsck is a problem
[03:59] <LjL> mipstien: me neither, to be honest
[03:59] <CSWookie> Has anyone here set up gmail as a smarthost with exim?
[03:59] <CSWookie> I've found a couple sites, but they aren't working for me.
[04:00] <saquib> LjL > I have pasted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25161/plain/
[04:00] <LjL> mipstien: are you sure your drive is really OK? do you have smartmontools installed?
[04:00] <mipstien> ljl: if i make a complete reinstall everything is fine
[04:01] <mipstien> ljl: i can check it with anything and there is no problem, as soon as i reinsert the .tar file with my old stuff it errors
[04:01] <LjL> mipstien: that doesn't really mean much... if your drive is failing in some places, it might work silently as long as it's not too "crowded", but then start giving problems (such as when you restore a backup...)
[04:01] <mipstien> i can still boot but it says /dev/sda7 is already mounted. e2fsck can't check this disk, check manually
[04:02] <saquib> LjL > I've seen the security repo's add doesnt change... others do (based on region). isnt there any other server except this one??
[04:02] <LjL> mipstien: ah, uhm, perhaps that's a problem with your /etc/fstab...? try pastebinning it, though i'm not too familiar with fstab to be honest
[04:02] <mipstien> ljl: the cause of my problem happened with gparted didn't finish resizeing my ext3 partition the toher day
[04:02] <soundmaster80> what is the irc for edgy eft?
[04:02] <jrib> !edgy
[04:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:02] <soundmaster80> thank you
[04:03] <LjL> saquib: your security lines look OK to me... no, as far as i know security only has a central server and no mirrors.
[04:03] <mipstien> ljl: how do you pastebin? so i don't flood
[04:03] <LjL> saquib: what was the error you were getting again?
[04:03] <LjL> !paste
[04:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:04] <saquib> LjL > i cant find any reason, why connection is "failed" everytime i try to connect to this! What can I do??
[04:04] <LjL> saquib: do you have a DSL router?
[04:04] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25162/
[04:04] <LjL> saquib: people have encountered problems with apt-get and some routers before, because of broken domain name servers in the router
[04:05] <shylock> hi i have managed to get my tv behave as a second desktop but when i try to run a movie fullscreen it gets "zoomed in" eg it only shows like a fourth of the picture, anyone have a tip?
[04:05] <saquib> LjL > No, its ethernet connection from the modem... no router or anything as i know of
[04:05] <LjL> saquib: what does your /etc/resolv.conf file list as a nameserver?
[04:06] <mipstien> ljl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25162/
[04:06] <LjL> mipstien: uh, why do you have the root partition commented out?
[04:06] <saquib> LjL > nameserver 10.0.0.50, 10.0.0.30, and 10.0.0.20
[04:06] <Nagraj> Software index is broken
[04:06] <Nagraj> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[04:07] <Nagraj> any help
[04:07] <mipstien> i don't, /dev/sda8 isn't on my computer anymore
[04:07] <mipstien> /dev/sda7 is root
[04:07] <LjL> saquib: uhm, that *sounds* like your modem is being a nameserver... try changing the first nameserver to 212.255.245.2
[04:07] <LjL> mipstien: well, /dev/sda7 is being listed as /media/sda7, not as root. that's surely a problem.
[04:07] <saquib> LjL > Working on it, just changing the firt one and trying again
[04:07] <elias_> I have 100% utilization when I am typing in evolution. Could be due to some non pristine dapper packages I installed. How can I revert back to all dapper packages?
[04:08] <mipstien> ok its root now :)
[04:08] <LjL> mipstien: i'd also set its options to "defaults,errors=remount-ro", like they used to be in your previous root
[04:09] <LjL> mipstien: check that your other listed partition look consistent with what you really have... and then i'd try a reboot
[04:09] <mipstien> ok well i guess its off to reboot then :)
[04:09] <mipstien> ill be back and let yo uknow how things go
[04:09] <LjL> saquib: oh sorry, my bad... the correct IP is 212.245.255.2, not 212.255.245.2
[04:10] <Shart> Hi! What WiFi PCI Card I must buy (<$30) to use it in Dapper?
[04:10] <LjL> !wifi
[04:10] <saquib> LjL > no probs, im editing again
[04:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:11] <Justy-> hi
[04:11] <Shart> LjL: I've read it, but I want Card 100% supported in Daper
[04:12] <haroldo> hi my "other" menu isnt showing up and i cant select the tick box in the menu editor. does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:12] <Shart> Also, I need WPA-PSK...
[04:12] <mipstien> ljl: i love you!
[04:13] <mipstien> ljl: thank you soooo much for your help!
[04:13] <LjL> mipstien: ;-)
[04:14] <saquib> LjL > Same problem, 404 not found problem. By the way, i can browse to this security.ubuntu.com ! All this worked for me before, i just dont get it.
[04:14] <godfather> hi guys
[04:14] <LjL> Shart: well, i wouldn't know honestly. and strangely there's little activity on the channel right now, so perhaps you might try asking again later...
[04:14] <LjL> saquib: can you pastebin the whole apt-get output please?
[04:14] <godfather> is thereanyone who is able to install realplayer
[04:14] <E-bola> Are there any alternatives to gaim?
[04:14] <LjL> !realplayer
[04:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:14] <E-bola> it keeps crashing on my install
[04:14] <saquib> LjL wait up... im doing it
[04:15] <haroldo> Ebola: synaptic >> realplay
[04:15] <LjL> E-bola: well, there is kopete for KDE (works under Gnome too, if you don't mind mixing up environments). there's probably a ton others that i don't know about
[04:15] <mipstien> now another problem, grub always chooses old information with booting up, and if i manually edit the grub.lst it fixes it until the next kernal gets updated or installed then it reconfigures itself back to the old numbers, what should i do?
[04:15] <E-bola> i just need something that can use msn messenger accounts
[04:15] <LjL> E-bola: perhaps amsn
[04:16] <E-bola> mmm realplay is a multimedia player?
[04:16] <LjL> E-bola: yes
[04:16] <godfather> yes
[04:16] <E-bola> so what does that have to do with gaim?
[04:16] <bretzel> !edgy
[04:16] <godfather> with mplayer i have some problem
[04:16] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:16] <bretzel> !schedule
[04:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:17] <LjL> mipstien: i don't know. what i would do is try a "grep -R sda7 /*" to find where sda7 is mentioned, and try to find out where it should be changed to the new partition
[04:17] <LjL> it'll take a while, mind you
[04:17] <godfather> synaptic says that it's impossible to install realplayer because it deends from xlibs and it's not installable
[04:17] <LjL> mipstien: perhaps even just "grep -R sda7 /etc/*" for a start
[04:17] <LjL> E-bola: nothing.
[04:18] <haroldo> E-bola: wine
[04:18] <LjL> E-bola: i was replying to godfather, who asked about installing realplayer
[04:18] <E-bola> dont understand why haroldo sugeste it then hehe
[04:18] <saquib> LjL > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25163/plain/ (by the way, it seems some files might be getting downlaoded from there.. plz chk)
[04:18] <daurn> how can i switch from ubuntu
[04:18] <LjL> E-bola: oh. he probably just misaddressed his reply
[04:18] <daurn> to kubuntu?
[04:18] <godfather> anyone canhelpme
[04:18] <haroldo> E-bola: because i have real player and it works
[04:19] <LjL> daurn: you can install the "kubuntu-desktop" package, at which point you'll have both Gnome and KDE available
[04:19] <godfather> ?
[04:19] <Horrible> hello everyone
[04:19] <mipstien> ljl: i don't understand what grep is, not that im afraid to use it but if i don't understand it then i can't really understand its output :)
[04:19] <LjL> haroldo: ... as an instant messenger?
[04:19] <Nogimics> Anyone know a decent screen capture prog please?
[04:19] <Horrible> i have a big big problem
[04:19] <LjL> mipstien: "man grep" ;-)
[04:19] <haroldo> LjL: ... no
[04:19] <Horrible> i tried to install my tv-tunner - it has bt878 chipset
[04:19] <LjL> mipstien: it searches for strings inside files
[04:19] <Horrible> but .... it gives me this after installing the needed software
[04:19] <daurn> LjL: i have.. but, how do i switch between them?
[04:19] <LjL> haroldo: well that's what E-bola was asking about. i think you wanted to tell that to godfather instead ;)
[04:19] <Horrible> videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[04:20] <LjL> daurn: when your login screen comes up, click on "Session" (or "Options") and choose KDE
[04:20] <Horrible> how can I fix this ?
[04:20] <haroldo> LjL: good point
[04:20] <daurn> ok
[04:20] <daurn> can you switch .. like... now?
[04:20] <Nogimics> Anyone know a decent screen capture prog please?
[04:20] <jrib> Nogimics: istanbul
[04:20] <haroldo> godfather: maybe i can help
[04:20] <godfather> ok
[04:21] <LjL> daurn: if it's all installed, yeah... just logout using the button at top right, and re-login
[04:21] <haroldo> godfather: do you have broadband connection?
[04:21] <godfather> yes
[04:21] <Justy-> slm slm
[04:21] <Horrible> can anyone help me ?!
[04:21] <daurn> LjL: i mean without logging out
[04:21] <mipstien> ljl: this might hel pyou also, if i "sudo grub" then "find /boot/grub/stage1" outputs hd0,6 "root (hd0,6)" "setup (hd0)"  it doesn't change my grub.lst to the correct thing, which should be hd0,6 it changes it to the old partition hd0,7 which does not exist
[04:21] <haroldo> godfather: just update synaptic and upgrade all the packages then install real player again
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[04:22] <LjL> daurn: well, no. you can spawn a new KDE session however, while keeping your current Gnome session open... i don't know how to do that in Gnome (since i'm using KDE), but it'd be called "Switch user" or something, probably in the System menu
[04:22] <godfather> it needs 9 minutes about
[04:22] <LjL> daurn: you can then switch between the two sessions using ctrl+alt+f7 and ctrl+alt+f9 or ctrl+alt+f8
[04:22] <Nogimics> jrib, thanks
[04:22] <daurn> ok...
[04:22] <saquib> LjL > Please chk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25163/plain/
[04:23] <Horrible> videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[04:23] <LjL> mipstien: well, pastebin your menu.lst
[04:23] <Horrible> how can I fix this ?!
[04:23] <haroldo> godfather: i have xlibs-dev, xlibs-static-dev, xorg-common
[04:23] <Horrible> it's about a tv-tunner with bt878 chipset
[04:23] <godfather> ok
[04:23] <Horrible> ANYONE ?
[04:24] <LjL> saquib: so it *is* downloading something (namely kdelibs4), just not the others... hm
[04:24] <godfather> but it teels mw that it needs xlibs
[04:24] <daurn> LjL: didn't work
[04:24] <daurn> it won't let me use the same username
[04:24] <godfather> but thsi lib it's not installable
[04:24] <LjL> daurn: well, then i can only tell you to log out.
[04:24] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25164/
[04:24] <Horrible> LjL: i have a problem : ideoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[04:24] <Horrible>  - it's about a tv-tunner with bt878 chipset ... how can i fix that error ?
[04:24] <saquib> LjL > could those file really be getting disappeared? Besides, then why would they be in the List? i mean im updating the list of file available, why are they listed then??
[04:25] <LjL> saquib: they *could*, in case of a server glitch, but then you said it's been going on for two days.....
[04:25] <Horrible> LjL ????
[04:26] <haroldo> godfather: what version of realplay?
[04:26] <LjL> Horrible: i don't have such a card, i have no idea
[04:26] <Horrible> goddam it
[04:26] <Horrible> can anyone else help me with this ?
[04:26] <saquib> LjL > the latest kernek available being shown is something.26 .... i installd .25 long back, is the .26 the last one?
[04:27] <kannan> how do I install Linuxthreads?
[04:27] <LjL> mipstien: so - let me be sure i understand --- if you take that menu.lst that you pasted, and change every occurrence of "/dev/sda8" to "/dev/sda7", and every occurrence of "(hd0,7)" to "(hd0,6)",  it gets changed back?
[04:28] <mipstien> ljl: if a new kernel gets installed OR if i run grub and do the setup root thing
[04:28] <davin> Hi guys, how do I remove a folder using rm in a shell?
[04:28] <LjL> saquib: no, the latest Dapper kernel is 2.6.15-27.48
[04:28] <eracc> Horrible, that is not a distribution specific question. Maybe the mythtv people could help you.
[04:28] <LjL> saquib: have you run an "apt-get update" recently?
[04:29] <LjL> davin: use "rmdir". works if the folder is empty.
 i dont have .27 listed...... dats weird. im refresring this list, still same. what should I do?
[04:29] <LjL> davin: otherwise, you can use "rm" with its "recursive" option. type "man rm"
[04:29] <LjL> saquib: "sudo apt-get update" gives no errors, though?
[04:29] <godfather> version 10
[04:29] <haroldo> godfather: 10.???
[04:30] <godfather> 10.0
[04:30] <eracc> davin, what LjL mentioned would be 'rm -rf <directory>'. Yes, you should still 'man rm'. :-)
[04:30] <mipstien> ljl: do you think that maybe i should try to delete grub and then install again?
[04:30] <haroldo> godfather 10.?.?.?.?
[04:31] <LjL> mipstien: no, i don't think so. meaning... it might even solve it, but i can't see why it would.
[04:31] <LjL> mipstien: right now i'm trying to find out where hda2 (my own root partition) is mentioned in the system
[04:31] <godfather> i'm sorry i don't know
[04:31] <infidel> i need help setting up telnet
[04:31] <haroldo> godfather you should know if you have synaptic open
[04:31] <godfather> because synaptic doesn't give me any specifiaction
[04:31] <saquib> LjL > Please chk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25165/plain/
[04:31] <mipstien> ljl: there is obviously a configuration file somewhere that gparted made that is telling grub what to do/use
[04:32] <godfather> iy's not open
[04:32] <godfather> i can't install it
[04:32] <gnomefreak> saquib: do you have the dapper-updates repo enabled?
[04:32] <LjL> saquib: yes, that's saying it's giving no errors. i'm at a loss, honestly.
[04:32] <haroldo> godfather it should say latest version even if you cant install
[04:32] <eracc> Hrm, being used to lilo I am going to have to learn all the parts for grub now. :-/
[04:32] <godfather> ok
[04:32] <godfather> let me repeat the operation
[04:32] <LjL> mipstien: well yes and no... i'm not sure it would be gparted. myself, i switched from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hda2 some time ago, however i don't really remember everything i had to change
[04:33] <saquib> gnomefreak > my sources.list:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25166/plain/
[04:34] <davin> LjL: rm -R folder worked, thanks :-)
[04:35] <WorkAl> Does anyone have any experience running Ubuntu on HP DL or ML servers?
[04:35] <LjL> mipstien: this may sound stupid and it probably is, but what about changing /etc/fstab so that the sda7 entry is the first listed? (well, after /proc)
[04:35] <mipstien> ljl i can try it
[04:36] <saquib> ** I cnt beleive security repository has no mirror.... umm its weird.
[04:36] <gnomefreak> its there
[04:36] <gnomefreak> saquib: try running apt-get update
[04:36] <LjL> mipstien: you could also try a "grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/dev/sda7". note that this is only correct (well, hopefully) if your grub is in the MBR.
[04:37] <godfather> haroldo
[04:37] <godfather> 8.0.11 version
[04:37] <dogui> hello
[04:37] <mipstien> ljl it is
[04:37] <LjL> mipstien: i wouldn't mess with grub that way unless i was very convinced it was the only option, though
[04:37] <haroldo> godfather i think you need to update your repository
[04:37] <dogui> hello betty
[04:37] <godfather> ok
[04:37] <godfather> how can i do this?
[04:37] <saquib> gnomefreak> done dat too....! some files get downlaoded, some says not available.. they are still listed! anyway i could reset the whole thing, and start new?
[04:38] <marc_> hello all
[04:38] <LjL> mipstien: whooops - don't even do that
[04:38] <mipstien> i didn't
[04:38] <LjL> mipstien: as the "directory" term should have hinted, it's expecting a directory, not a /dev/
[04:38] <E-bola> How do i see what hardware device an eth1 is mapped to?
[04:38] <haroldo> godfather sudo apt-get update
[04:38] <LjL> mipstien: so that would be "grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/" anyway  (but then the root-directory specification is redundant, since that's the default)
[04:38] <godfather> ok but now i have to reboot
[04:39] <haroldo> godfather why?
[04:39] <godfather> i'll be here in 2 minutes
[04:39] <hantu> why reboot ;o
[04:39] <haroldo> dont reboot!
[04:39] <godfather> because i have installed all the updates
[04:39] <hantu> you don't have to -_-
[04:39] <wetduck> hi folks!
[04:39] <hantu> that's the whole point of linux!
[04:39] <godfather> and synaptic tells me it need toreboot
[04:39] <mipstien> ljl: so should i try and run "grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/" or is it just a wasteful command?
[04:40] <haroldo> godfather erm... what if you just log out and in again?
[04:40] <marc_> Looking for help with fiding driver support for my asus P5AD2 Premium Wireless edition mother board.
[04:40] <LjL> mipstien: i would just try "grub-install /dev/sda", which should be the same thing. it *shouldn't* really do anything bad, if your grub is already in the MBR of sda... maybe it'll solve nothing, though
[04:40] <haroldo> godfather: i dont think you have to reboot
[04:41] <davin> Hey guys, im back. im trying to copy from '/home/davin/Documents/' to '/media/sdf1/backup/' using 'cp /home/davin/Documents/ /media/sdf1/backup' cp gives me the error 'omitting directory: /media/sdf1/backup/, anything I can do?
[04:41] <godfather> ok
[04:41] <wetduck> How do I locate the files wich were on Desktop folder while I use oem user?
[04:41] <erUSUL> davin: cp -r
[04:41] <mipstien> ljl: no that didn't fix it
[04:41] <godfather> i give sudo apt-get update
[04:41] <davin> erUSUL: k hang on
[04:42] <godfather> and i've just tried to install realplayer
[04:42] <godfather> but i gives me the same error message
[04:42] <erUSUL> davin: and 'man cp' some reading is always a good idea ;)
[04:42] <marc_> Looking for help with fiding driver support for my asus P5AD2 Premium Wireless edition mother board.  I can't get my second hardrive to work.  I think its because my mother board has hardware raid
[04:43] <davin> erUSUL: thanks :-), I have to remember to use -R for folders..
[04:43] <davin> Gonna install my new Ubuntu system now :D brb
[04:43] <erUSUL> marc_: http://people.redhat.com/~heinzm/sw/dmraid/readme
[04:43] <erUSUL> !lvm
[04:43] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:46] <saquib> LjL > Please have a look at this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25167/plain/   This might give you some clue!!
[04:46] <FERNANDISCO> wenass
[04:46] <FERNANDISCO> alguien hala espaol?
[04:46] <godfather> here i am
[04:46] <erUSUL> !es
[04:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:47] <marc_> erUSUL, that will work with ubuntu?
[04:47] <FERNANDISCO> gracias
[04:47] <erUSUL> marc_: i do not know, never tried... in the wiki ages maybe you find more information
[04:49] <erUSUL> pages*
[04:49] <LjL> saquib: well, it *is* indeed looking for files that aren't there
[04:50] <LjL> saquib: for instance, it's looking for a firefox-gnome-support_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1_i386.deb, while only version +1.5.0.7 is there (and an older 1.5.0.3)
[04:50] <LjL> saquib: i wonder why an apt-get update isn't fixing this though
[04:50] <saquib> LjL > Think i've typed apt-get update 100 times .... its not getting fixed
[04:50] <LjL> saquib: do try an apt-get --fix-missing as it suggests... you never know
[04:51] <swanfl> morning all, how do I create a mailing list to be used in kmail?
[04:51] <wetduck> How do I go back to oem user?
[04:52] <sic_> hi
[04:52] <swanfl> hi sic
[04:52] <wetduck> bbl
[04:52] <sic_> y looks the network admin so differnt in ubuntu than in other distributions?
[04:53] <sic_> don't know how to add a new connection in this version
[04:53] <saquib> LjL > This is wat i got after apt-get update --fix-missing:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25171/
[04:54] <mipstien> ljl: if i uninstall grub through synaptic and then reinstall could that damage anything?
[04:54] <erUSUL> sic_: in ubuntu is like in debian and debian and it's derivs are very popular... it is tru that is not like rh nor suse
[04:54] <LjL> mipstien: scuse me but, when you ran "grub-install /dev/sda", did the menu.lst contain the right or the wrong partitions?
[04:54] <godfather> hey guys
[04:55] <mipstien> ljl: i don't believe it changed anything
[04:55] <godfather> i have to install 3d drivers of my ati radeon sound card but i don't know how
[04:55] <sic_> erUSL: that means there is no chance to add a connection in gnome? ;)
[04:55] <godfather> anyone can help me?
[04:55] <saquib> LjL > Anything related with a ley problem? It also says, E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. So that's why Index is not getting updated!
[04:55] <froud> What's the difference between Ubuntu-installer and Debian-installer?
[04:55] <marc_> How would I make my second hardrive work
[04:55] <krazykit> godfather: part of it is that it's not a sound card
[04:55] <LjL> saquib: bah, it failed connecting to us.*, and it's complaining about keys... i'm not sure... apt-get update again (yeah i know)
[04:55] <saquib> *i meant key*
[04:55] <krazykit> ubotu: tell godfather about ati
[04:55] <erUSUL> sic_: System> admin> net ??
[04:55] <gerhard> hi
[04:55] <LjL> mipstien: no, i mean *before* you ran it, was menu.lst correct or not? (i mean, the one you pasted was the *wrong* one, wasn't it)
[04:55] <gerhard> how do i create folders? mkdir doesnt work
[04:56] <saquib> LjL > How to get the proper GPG key?
[04:56] <mipstien> ljl: the one i pasted was wrong  yes
[04:56] <sic_> erUSL: yes - but this is very different than everywhere else and there is no "new" or "add" button
[04:56] <krazykit> gerhard: yes it does.  do you have permissions to make folders where you're trying?
[04:56] <erUSUL> gerhard: mkdir *should* and *does* work unless you do not have permisions
[04:57] <LjL> mipstien: and the one you had before running grub-install was...?
[04:57] <gerhard> ok I forgot to make a blank
[04:57] <gerhard> youre right
[04:57] <sonium> is the nvidia driver from the repository the same than the one from nvidia.com?
[04:57] <erUSUL> sic_: what type of connection are you trying to add??
[04:57] <mipstien> ljl: i don't understand the question
[04:57] <LjL> saquib: that i don't know. i've been asked that yesterday, too, but i couldn't find the correct page
[04:57] <LjL> !gpgerr
[04:57] <ubotu> Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Read the top section of http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:57] <sic_> an pppoe connection for my modem
[04:57] <krazykit> sonium: the one in the repo is a bit out of date.  there are a few repos with updated ones, though.  someone blogged on planet ubuntu about it
[04:58] <erUSUL> sic_: is an adsl usb modem?? which model??
[04:58] <E-bola> cant u test a screensaver?
[04:58] <erUSUL> !adsl
[04:58] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:58] <sonium> is ok to use the one from nvidia.com or are problems expected?
[04:58] <E-bola> in fullscreen i mean?
[04:58] <E-bola> cant seem to find it in ubuntu?
[04:58] <krazykit> E-bola: yes, but i dunno about gnome-screensaver.
[04:58] <sic_> erUSUL: no, a zyxel with ethernet connection
[04:58] <E-bola> how?
[04:58] <dbzdeath> i've forgotten which meta package to use to install all of xorg stuff
[04:58] <dbzdeath> anyone know which it is?
[04:59] <LjL> mipstien: err, i mean... your /boot/grub/menu.lst file, was it "correct" (i.e. listed the right root partition, /dev/sda7 and (hd0,6)) *before* you typed "grub-install /dev/sda", or was it wrong (like the one you pasted)?
[04:59] <krazykit> E-bola: find the screensaver options.  probably System -> Preferences
[04:59] <mipstien> it was wrong
[04:59] <LjL> mipstien: or if you prefer -- make sure to put the correct stuff into menu.lst, and then run "grub-install /dev/sda" again
[04:59] <E-bola> krazykit: thats wher ei am
[04:59] <sic_> erUSUL: it isn't a real problem, but i'm just wondering
[04:59] <mipstien> ljl: ok
[04:59] <E-bola> but its only showing them in a small window
[04:59] <LjL> mipstien: ok, then fix it an run it again
[04:59] <erUSUL> sic_: go to  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE as ubotu told you
[05:00] <krazykit> E-bola: then gnome-screensaver is worse than i though.  i prefer xscreensaver
[05:00] <pirx_> hi! does anyone know how to make ctrl+arrow work in the adress bar in firefox? i think its something in about:config, but cant remember what
[05:00] <LjL> mipstien: there's also a related thread here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-217617.html - not that it would necessarily be too accurate, but
[05:00] <mipstien> ljl: fixed and run again
[05:00] <sic_> erUSUL: thx
[05:01] <erUSUL> sic_: no problem
[05:01] <LjL> mipstien: well, dunno, try a reboot now. i know it could be just wasted time, but.... and if you want to reinstall grub through APT, do that. shouldn't do any harm
[05:01] <mipstien> ljl: should i try to install grub with the grub command  now?
[05:01] <LjL> mipstien: i think grub-install does the same thing, just with an easier command line...
[05:01] <mipstien> i c
[05:01] <UKMatt> hey, quick question, i'm on skype and the other person can BARELY hear me, does anyone know how to fix that
[05:01] <UKMatt> or if thats a common problem
[05:02] <krazykit> UKMatt: turn up your mic volume
[05:02] <krazykit> UKMatt: in the mixer.
[05:02] <LjL> UKMatt: is your microphone volume set high enough? do you have Mic Gain on?
[05:02] <ZombieQ> hello
[05:02] <UKMatt> the mic is all the way up, and i turned everything in the mixer up that i thought could be linked
[05:02] <UKMatt> whats Mic Gain
[05:02] <mipstien> ljl i do believe that fixxed it, thank you
[05:03] <UKMatt> I have Mic Boost (+20db) on
[05:03] <ZombieQ> I cannot modprobe the fglrx module for some reason it gives me FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:03] <LjL> UKMatt: well, not all cards have it... it's actually called "Mic Boost" here, anyway i think it increased the microphone gain when it sees a low signal -- or something. at any rate, it just makes it louder
[05:03] <krazykit> ZombieQ: sudo?
[05:03] <ZombieQ> already used sudo
[05:03] <UKMatt> I have Mic Boost (+20db) on, ljl
[05:03] <krazykit> ZombieQ: err, are you using edgy?
[05:04] <ZombieQ> yes
[05:04] <erUSUL> UKMatt: skype uses oss iirc so maybe you have to check the oss device mixer too (in gnome mixer File>Change Device)
[05:04] <krazykit> ZombieQ: then you're in the wrong place.  go to #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <ZombieQ> oh sorry ok thanks :)
[05:04] <krazykit> ZombieQ: s'ok
[05:04] <UKMatt> erusul, how do i do that?
[05:04] <UKMatt> erusul, oh i did that
[05:04] <erUSUL> UKMatt: (in gnome mixer File>Change  Device)
[05:04] <UKMatt> erusul, i tried both
[05:06] <thedash> is there any particular reason why my Ubuntu always freezes if it runs the screen saver for more than 15 minutes or so?
[05:07] <krazykit> thedash: either you have no hardware acceleration or you have ati-drivers
[05:07] <krazykit> probably
[05:07] <vandit2k7> Hi I have a question...I installed the new 6.10 ubuntu beta that came out yesterday and I tried installing nvidia-glx and now the X server fails
[05:07] <thedash> I have an ATI card, not so sure about drivers atm :X
[05:08] <krazykit> vandit2k7: go to #ubuntu+1
[05:08] <vandit2k7> thank you
[05:09] <davvs> is there any application to control bandwidth in ubuntu?
[05:10] <TheNu1> greetings
[05:10] <TheNu1> I have a PCI card to add 2 serial ports... Any idea on how I can get the port and the IRQ for setserial ?
[05:11] <fm> Hi
[05:11] <fm> I was just wondering.. do you know whether it is possible to share CPU resources over a LAN ?
[05:12] <krazykit> fm: sorta.  you could make clusters.
[05:12] <fm> clusters?
[05:12] <krazykit> fm: but it's really not the simplest thing to set up.
[05:12] <sic_> bye
[05:12] <TheNu1> fm: look at things like openMosix
[05:13] <TheNu1> fm: but clusters are realy hard to set up and use-specific
[05:13] <fm> ok thanks!
[05:13] <debianos> hello
[05:13] <krazykit> fm: so short answer: no, long answer:yes
[05:13] <fm> anyway thats mostly for fun
[05:13] <erUSUL> TheNu1: dmesg | grep tty
[05:14] <erUSUL> TheNu1: i get serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[05:15] <TheNu1> erUSUL: what is that exactly ?
[05:15] <debianos>  i try ....just a test
[05:16] <erUSUL> TheNu1: dmesg shows the kernel boot log i piped it to grep so i get the lines detecting tty's (serial ports)
[05:16] <Justy-> Hello!
[05:16] <TheNu1> oh ok
[05:16] <TheNu1> [17179573.740000]  serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[05:16] <TheNu1> [17179573.744000]  00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[05:16] <TheNu1> [17179573.744000]  0000:05:08.0: ttyS4 at I/O 0x9000 (irq = 217) is a 16550A
[05:16] <Justy-> question: how can i learn whether i have installed the latest driver for my graphics card?
[05:17] <fijam> hello
[05:17] <erUSUL> TheNu1: do not paste here please! use a pastebin...
[05:17] <erUSUL> !paste
[05:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:17] <TheNu1> ok, didn't know
[05:17] <M_A_K> I am getting ready to reinstall ubuntu.  I have an 80 GB HD and would like some suggestions on partitioning.
[05:17] <erUSUL> TheNu1: the card's tty is this "ttyS4 at I/O 0x9000 (irq = 217) is a 16550A" the other seems the onboard one
[05:18] <xopher> If I get this error when dpkg-builpackaginng: dpkg-gencontrol: error: must specify package since control info has many - what should I edit?
[05:18] <pandamonium> i have a desktop setup of Ubuntu with KDE. I'm also running some services on it and I'm thinking of handling network routing through it. Are there any resources where I can read up on making a sort of hybrid desktop/server implementation?
[05:18] <segfault_> xopher, ur control file
[05:18] <Justy-> question: how can i learn whether i have installed the latest driver for my graphics card?
[05:18] <xopher> segfault_, what in it?
[05:19] <xopher> there are already two packages mentioned
[05:19] <TheNu1> erUSUL: thanks, gonna try it
[05:19] <segfault_> xopher, there are plenty of debian pkging resources on the net plz read up first
[05:19] <erUSUL> TheNu1: no problem
[05:19] <fyrestrtr> Justy-: if you installed it from the repos, then the system will notify you of any updates.
[05:19] <TheNu1> erUSUL: but there is 2 ports... why is only one detected ?
[05:19] <xopher> segfault_, sure, I have, just wondered if someone would have had a quick answer
[05:20] <Justy-> fyrestrtr, how can i know if it is already installed?
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> Justy-: check the output of glxinfo
[05:20] <segfault_> xopher, plz read if no luck come back and ill try to answer
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> Justy-: if it says direct rendering: Yes, then you have them installed.
[05:20] <erUSUL> TheNu1: i do not know... has your mobo a serial port? maybe i'm mistaken and the two detected are in the pci card
[05:20] <Justy-> display: :0  screen: 0
[05:20] <Justy-> direct rendering: Yes
[05:20] <Justy-> hmm
[05:20] <Justy-> ok
[05:21] <Justy-> thanks fyrestrtr
[05:21] <TheNu1> erUSUL: no serial port on the mobo (that is the problem...) (+by the way, I get an I/O error with ttyS4)
[05:22] <erUSUL> TheNu1: then you have ttyS0 and ttyS4 both on the pci card... and you know i/o and irq for them both. problem solved
[05:24] <swanfl> anyone use kmail?
[05:24] <junix-br> the ndiswrapper is installed in dapper instalation?
[05:24] <erUSUL> junix-br: linux-restricted-modules iirc
[05:25] <junix-br> erUSUL, is this a package?
[05:26] <walck> hi all
[05:26] <erUSUL> junix-br: yes... (may miss the kernel version)
[05:26] <walck> I got myself into sort of a mess right now, anyone free to give me some hints to solve them?
[05:26] <junix-br> erUSUL, ok.. thank you!
[05:27] <walck> I need to let a few outsiders into my machine, so I thought lowering permissions to everything was kinda smart, but I must've changed one permission too much
[05:27] <junix-br> iirc is a module?
[05:27] <fyrestrtr> walck: what tha heck....
[05:27] <walck> because now I can't start new gnome-terminals, and mplayer says segmentation fault
[05:27] <fyrestrtr> junix-br: iirc = if I recall/remember correctly
[05:27] <walck> (mplayer works as root though, so should be permission issues)
[05:27] <Jas-Nix> hello, I have a Dell gx520, it has dual-core intel 64bit
[05:28] <TheNu1> erUSUL: the serial port is still not working... should I change the UART or something ?
[05:28] <Jas-Nix> I downloaded the 64 bit livecd and when I try to run it it just says "loading"
[05:28] <junix-br> fyrestrtr, thanks
[05:28] <Jas-Nix> then nothing happens, any ideas ?
[05:28] <junix-br> =)
[05:28] <thedash> can I see what drivers I have atm?
[05:28] <azzgo1> hello
[05:28] <azzgo1> ubuntu has crashed twice for me when i started wow, first time i get this, how can i see whats causing it?
[05:29] <cyberfall> hey hey
[05:29] <TheNu1> azzgo1: what kind of crash ?
[05:29] <walck> anyone have a good clue about how permissions should be setup correctly?
[05:30] <azzgo1> TheNu1: everything freezind, even the sound, only way i can get out of it is by manualy restarting
[05:30] <cyberfall> kinda of a noob here gotz a problem compileing mplayer or lookin for a program that will convert dvix or xvid to dvd
[05:30] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> can anyone tell me how to update my source.list
[05:30] <tripitaka> Hello, I just booted kubuntu, intalled to disk, now I'm looking at a username/password prompt - what are the default login credentials? thanks
[05:30] <fyrestrtr> !source-o-matic > PunjabiFLOYDIAN
[05:30] <pandamonium> azzgo1, does the cursor freeze as well?
[05:30] <erUSUL> TheNu1: i do not know can you paste some of the errors you are getting ?? also do a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' in a free terminal to see what may be happening (btw setserial -a /dev/ttySn gives the information)
[05:30] <azzgo1> pandamonium: everything
[05:30] <fyrestrtr> tripitaka: the username and password you created during setup.
[05:31] <tripitaka> !
[05:31] <tripitaka> astonishing :D
[05:31] <pandamonium> azzgo1, could there be a hardware problem?
[05:31] <erUSUL> walck: System>Admin>Users and groups
[05:31] <tripitaka> amazingly it works, thanks
[05:31] <azzgo1> pandamonium: yes, i think i could, but how can i identify what exactly causes the thing?
[05:32] <pandamonium> azzgo1, try running some diagnostics such as those found on Ultimate Boot CD
[05:32] <thedash> I use Beep Media Player, and just recently it started crashing a lot, it just closes in the middle of a song :S
[05:32] <zardinuk> so I can't figure this ubuntu out, where are all the frickin init scripts? I can't start/restart samba
[05:32] <azzgo1> pandamonium: "Ultimate Boot CD"?
[05:32] <walck> erUSUL: got error: Failed to run users-admin as user root: Failed to fork new process: No such file or directory
[05:32] <erUSUL> zardinuk: /etc/init.d/ who would have said it, eh??
[05:33] <cyberfall> ummm.... any help on compilein mplayer it crashes on compile with xvid installed i had it kinda compile before i compile xvid in but now i dont know how to remove xvid
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> zardinuk: make sure you have samba installed, then /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:33] <zardinuk> erUSUL: I have /etc/samba/smb.conf, but no /etc/init.d/samba
[05:33] <pandamonium> azzgo1, Yes, it's an iso that you boot into and it gives access to a number of tests
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: why are you compiling it? You just need to install the codecs.
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> zardinuk: install the server component.
[05:33] <pandamonium> azzgo1, also, have you set a CPU temperature alarm in the BIOS?
[05:33] <zardinuk> pandamonium, erUSUL: how do you search for packages from the command line?
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:33] <cyberfall> cause i couldnt find it in the synapic package managaer
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> zardinuk: apt-cache search foo
[05:34] <zardinuk> ah, thank you!
[05:34] <azzgo1> pandamonium: there is no problem with my cpu cooling, where doi get this iso image from?
[05:34] <cyberfall> and i cant find mplayer in it
[05:34] <erUSUL> zardinuk: apt-cache search
[05:34] <cyberfall> i only see kmplayer
[05:34] <pandamonium> azzgo1, GIYF ;)
[05:34] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: enable universe and multiverse repos.
[05:34] <azzgo1> pandamonium: and is thereany way of bootin it without burning it?
[05:34] <pandamonium> azzgo1, you need to burn it to a CD and then boot straight from it
[05:34] <cyberfall> umm i dont see them i got all but the comercail repos enabled
[05:34] <Djainette> Hello all. I've tried to install edgy yesterday, but my X won't work. I have an error loading font 'fixed'. Does anyone have a clue ?
[05:35] <fyrestrtr> !universe > cyberfall
[05:35] <azzgo1> pandamonium: yeah, i know, tought there is a way to boot it from grub/lilo or something
[05:35] <zardinuk> ok, so /etc/samba/smb.conf is there but samba server is not installed... that is confusing
[05:35] <fyrestrtr> !info mplayer
[05:35] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[05:35] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: you don't have multiverse enabled :)
[05:35] <mikeo1> where is the startup gnome settings script file
[05:35] <cyberfall> umm let me lookie
[05:35] <pandamonium> there's no good running it using an OS as it will interfere with stuff that the OS is allocated
[05:35] <erUSUL> zardinuk: conf files will not be deleted unless you use the --purge option
[05:36] <fyrestrtr> mikeo1: system > preferences > session, then the startup tab.
[05:36] <zardinuk> smb.conf came with the fresh install
[05:36] <erUSUL> Djainette: go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[05:36] <fyrestrtr> zardinuk: that's because its there for the smb client support.
[05:36] <pandamonium> azzgo1, I take it you don't have access to a burner on a functional system?
[05:36] <Djainette> erUSUL: thanks
[05:36] <debianos__> hello
[05:36] <erUSUL> Djainette: no problem
[05:37] <azzgo1> pandamonium: yeah, arent the applications runnable from a linux box?
[05:37] <thedash> are there any media players for Ubuntu that don't suck?
[05:37] <cyberfall> ubuntu 6.06 lts (binary) community maintained (universe) offcially supported restricted copyright is on
[05:37] <kaypax> hi all, can any1 pls recomend me a good web authoring tool?
[05:37] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: again, enable *multiverse*
[05:37] <pandamonium> azzgo1, AFAIK it needs to run standalone
[05:37] <erUSUL> thedash: i'm quite happy with xine and mplayer
[05:38] <pandamonium> thedash, I quite like VLC
[05:38] <Ignite_> thedash, yes plenty.
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> kaypax: nvu, quanta or screem
[05:38] <frogzoo> thedash: gxine's vid quality is excellent once you tune it up
[05:38] <kaypax> thanx
[05:38] <H080J03> how do you tell what version of the linux kernal you are running?
[05:38] <cyberfall> fyrestrtr,  i dont see one sorry
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> !multiverse
[05:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:38] <erUSUL> H080J03: uname -r
[05:38] <H080J03> thank you
[05:38] <frogzoo> H080J03: lsbrelease -a
[05:38] <Ignite_> thedash, if you are looking for recommendations then Amarok is my favorite. :-)
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: see the link that ubotu typed out.
[05:38] <thedash> how do I see what hardware drivers I have?
[05:39] <fyrestrtr> thedash: why?
[05:39] <erUSUL> thedash: ls -R /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/kernel/*
[05:39] <cyberfall>  mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[05:39] <cyberfall> that all i seen from it
[05:39] <cyberfall> oh k
[05:39] <thedash> because I think my Seagate SATA is conflicting with some drivers, specifically the Sil 311* ones
[05:39] <frogzoo> thedash: lsmod for what's currently running
[05:40] <fyrestrtr> thedash: lsmod will tell you what is loaded.
[05:40] <debianos__>  ineed help for server ftp
[05:40] <cyberfall> fyrestrtr, wich one
[05:40] <cyberfall> i see 2
[05:40] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: *sigh* read both.
[05:40] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: you need all the information you can get.
[05:41] <cyberfall> fyrestrtr,  how true hehe
[05:41] <cyberfall> sorry so use to red hat and suse
[05:41] <fyrestrtr> I'm sure you had to read there too :)
[05:41] <cyberfall> naw stumb in there and killed the kernal a few times
[05:41] <thedash> lsmod doesn't give me mcuh info though, other than the filesize of the item?
[05:42] <xopher> segfault_, could not find out what was causing this, my debian/control file is just as it should be.
[05:42] <lastnode> thedash, lsmod lists the kernel modules you have installed
[05:42] <cyberfall> suse and red hat had a easy program (yast for suse and red hat i dont remember
[05:42] <segfault_> paste in pastebin
[05:42] <segfault_> xopher, paste in pastebin
[05:42] <walck> ok, as I said earlier, I've changed too many permissions, but I can'
[05:42] <bones> !info xgl
[05:42] <ubotu> Package xgl does not exist in any distro I know
[05:42] <thedash> lastnode:: can I look into it more though?
[05:42] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: synaptic is the equivalent for ubuntu
[05:43] <walck> can't troubleshoot and find which files that are wrong and stopping me from doing anything
[05:43] <fyrestrtr> !xgl > bones
[05:43] <xopher> segfault_, sure, Ill need to recompile it first, to get the error again..
[05:43] <bones> thanks
[05:43] <walck> at the moment my normal user can't even create processes, that is kind of a big issue :)
[05:43] <thenakedcowboy> hey all
[05:43] <pandamonium> azzgo1, how many memory modules have you in your system?
[05:43] <azzgo1> pandamonium: 2
[05:43] <cyberfall> ya but it dont have the hardware control etc stuff built into it to just pop in and install like red hat has
[05:44] <cyberfall> u got a device manager but that it
[05:44] <graveson> what can i use to convert my audio(mp3,wav, and rm) to psp format
[05:44] <fyrestrtr> graveson: mplayer
[05:45] <pandamonium> azzgo1, have you tried systematically removing them? I'm not an expert by any means, I'm just going from a similar experience I had on my dozy box
[05:45] <erUSUL> walck: i'm afraid that you are alone here becouse ony you now what you messed with what comands you run etc... only you can undo what you have done
[05:45] <azzgo1> pandamonium: havent tried it, ill try it if it crashes when i start wow this time
[05:45] <walck> I know what I've ran to a quite great extence, but I have no clue of how to undo a chmod :)
[05:45] <pandamonium> azzgo1, I found that my modules were perfectly functional but the motherboard had developed some kind of addressing fault.
[05:46] <fyrestrtr> walck: you just set it back to what they were previously.
[05:46] <mythril> anyone know where I can look at the release schedule for Ubuntu?
[05:46] <fyrestrtr> !schedule > mythril
[05:47] <cyberfall> fyrestrtr,  what is Canonical
[05:47] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: the company that makes ubuntu
[05:47] <M_A_K> Can anybody point me to a how-to on granting a user (non sudo'er) the right to run netowrk-admin module?
[05:47] <lastnode> fyrestrtr, that's kind of incorrect
[05:47] <cyberfall> umm cool oks
[05:47] <walck> fyrestrtr: yeah, but that's kinda the problem I suppose, how do I find out what it was earlier? if I run random chmod o-rx *, I don't know which files were supposed to have rx and which wasn't supposed too
[05:47] <zardinuk> how do I log in to samba with the [homes]  share? I used to turn on plain text passwords in windows, but isn't there a way to use the native encryption with samba? Is that what I should be looking for?
[05:47] <lastnode> cyberfall, Canonical funds several ubuntu core team developers. they also own the trademarks. but ubuntu is really "developed" by hundreds of people from all over the world.
[05:47] <eurytus> M_A_K, start by googling "visudo"
[05:47] <mythril> fyrestrtr: thanks
[05:48] <thedash> any way I can see which version of a specific driver I have?
[05:48] <eurytus> M_A_K, or just reading the man page for it
[05:48] <MetaMorfoziS> if i'm install xp
[05:48] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i restore grub?
[05:48] <erUSUL> !grub
[05:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:49] <MetaMorfoziS> oh, cool. thx.
[05:49] <cyberfall> lastnode,  ya i knew that
[05:49] <cyberfall> open source rocks
[05:49] <cyberfall> but still it has to be maintaind by someone
[05:49] <walck> I know this problem will prolly bug me for infinity, but right now I need support with those more critical parts, like what parts of the / filesystem that gets read/written to when a process is forked or created, anyone know info at that level?
[05:49] <lastnode> cyberfall, er, it's maintained by many developers, lke i said
[05:50] <M_A_K> OK, thanx
[05:50] <erUSUL> walck: /var/,  /tmp/, /proc/ ...
[05:50] <picochu> walck,  for a start /proc
[05:51] <cyberfall> lastnode,  yes but still it kinda owned by the main devopler that started the project but it open source to others to make sure it stays up to date right
[05:51] <lastnode> cyberfall, the code itself is not owned at all. it's all GPLed (well everything in universe iirc). so if you wanted to, you could take it now and call it 'Cyberfall Linux' , as long as you released any changes you made
[05:51] <cyberfall> and if there any comerial software put in cause u paid for it that has to be kept up by someone ??
[05:52] <erUSUL> !offtopic
[05:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:52] <lastnode> cyberfall, Canonical only "owns" the Ubuntu name, and that is so that we cant take a fork and call it Ubuntu 8.08 for example
[05:52] <lastnode> erUSUL, yes my bad. it started ontopic though ;-)
[05:52] <cyberfall> ok
[05:52] <LjL> lastnode: you mean, like Mozilla does? *ducks*
[05:52] <lastnode> cyberfall, join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:52] <lastnode> LjL, :D
[05:52] <picochu> erUSUL, are u sure /var and /temp get read/write in all cases?
[05:52] <cyberfall> lastnode,  na that ok i got your point
[05:53] <frogzoo> lastnode: did they trademark Ubunut ?
[05:53] <cyberfall> fyrestrtr, btw thx for your help
[05:53] <walck> thanks erUSUL + picochu, I'll look some at those :)
[05:53] <lastnode> frogzoo, well the bottom of the wiki says something along those lines (IANAL)
[05:53] <cyberfall> this place helped more then most #linux channels do..
[05:53] <bsdfox> anyone know an easy way to convert a bunch of .ifo/.vob files to xvid?
[05:54] <picochu> cyberfall, #gentoo ppl are pretty friendly too
[05:54] <erUSUL> picochu: not in all cases but many processes has lock files logs etc /var/log/, /var/run/, tmp files and unix sockets in /tmp/ etc
[05:54] <LjL> cyberfall: more like in, ten times more? but ten times zero is zero
[05:54] <picochu> cyberfall,  can't say the same for the ppl in debian :P
[05:54] <cyberfall> bsdfox,  im lookin for something that will convert from xvid to dvd
[05:54] <picochu> erUSUL,  precisely.. that's what i thought
[05:54] <Bluecandy> hi
[05:55] <Bluecandy> i need help:
[05:55] <fyrestrtr> cyberfall: k3b will do that.
[05:55] <picochu> erUSUL,  then u might as well add /etc
[05:55] <LjL> Bluecandy: we know that - this is a support channel ;-) what do you need help with?
[05:55] <Bluecandy> i cant boot (k)ubuntu edgy since the first knot. i get a MMCONFIG bios error, but thats on much distros, it takes a minute and its fine (fixed in 2.6.18) but after that i get "cant read/access on hda" or something. i have a s-ata
[05:55] <Bluecandy> i am booting from desktop cd
[05:55] <cyberfall> well most of the time i ask something in undernets #linux channel i get told read the MAN page which is like reading a physis book and get little to nothing out of it
[05:55] <LjL> !edgy
[05:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:55] <fyrestrtr> Bluecandy: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[05:56] <Bluecandy> ok
[05:56] <kothz> !i915
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <cyberfall> what is transcode then
[05:56] <fyrestrtr> !915 > kothz
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <erUSUL> picochu: in /etc/ most things are ro except /etc/mtab an very few other things. in a well layouted unix system it should be posible to have / /usr in a read only file system...
[05:56] <harisund> Hello! what is the max file size in a fat32 partition?
[05:56] <walck> would anyone be so kind to pastebin their ls -l of /proc and /var? would be greatly apriciated
[05:57] <LjL> harisund: 2 or 4 gb, i think
[05:57] <cyberfall> !transcode
[05:57] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 14123 kB, installed size 42172 kB
[05:57] <dyn-afk> 4GB is the max filesize vor FAT32
[05:57] <dyn-afk> *for
[05:57] <kothz> 4GB - 2bytes :)
[05:57] <cyberfall> well that a little vage
[05:57] <b_52Centos> Impossible de rcuprer http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Somme de contrle MD5 incohrente
[05:57] <b_52Centos> Impossible de rcuprer http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source/Sources.bz2  Somme de contrle MD5 incohrente
[05:57] <b_52Centos> Impossible de rcuprer http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/universe/source/Sources.bz2  Somme de contrle MD5 incohrente
[05:57] <b_52Centos> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[05:57] <b_52Centos> E: Le tlchargement de quelques fichiers d'index a chou, ils ont t ignors, ou les anciens ont t utiliss  la place.
[05:57] <harisund> thanks dyn-afk and LjL ... just what I was looking for :)
[05:57] <b_52Centos> root@b52GM:/home/mohammed#
[05:57] <LjL> walck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25177/
[05:58] <walck> thanks LjL
[05:58] <Arc> does anyone know why typing on the keyboard would beep (no text appear) on the login screen?
[05:58] <semPid> how can I install a wireless usb card ?
[05:58] <synjet> !fr > b_52Centos
[05:58] <picochu> b_52Centos, english si vou plait?
[05:58] <LjL> that was an error message
[05:59] <Sobek> hi there I need help with my cd-rw drive, it is correctly identified as 2nd IDE master and there is an entry in system->administration->discs and I can open the cd-rw drive with "eject /dev/hdc" however I cannot use this drive to read cds nor burn data onto cds; after installation there was no entry for the cdrw drive in /etc/fstab but even after adding one and craeting the corresponding drive in /media the drive refuses to work at all
[05:59] <semPid> install packard bell wipen?
[05:59] <LjL> "the download of some index files has failed, they have been ignored, or the old ones have been used in their place"
[05:59] <Arc> nevermind :-)
[05:59] <bsdfox> semPid, try plugging it in and then dmesg|tail -n10
[05:59] <Sobek> what can I try to make it work properly?
[05:59] <zmeiat_joro> hey guys, I've been tyring for two days now to get some stuff from my old windows machine to my new one with ubuntu and I installed and configured samba but still nothign
[06:00] <cyberfall> is there much diffrents between opendivx and regular dvix
[06:00] <cyberfall> is there much diffrents between opendivx and regular divx
[06:00] <kothz> after 13 minutes I would have ripped the hard drive out of the old windows box, slaved it to your ubuntu drive, and just copied the data :)
[06:00] <harisund> zmeiat_joro: I guess you could try and get samba workin, but otherwise, you have plenty other methods of data transfer, kothz's method being one of them .
[06:00] <Yaakov> zmeiat_joro: Install PuTTY on your Windows machine and use scp.
[06:00] <Sobek> if you have an usb stick at hand, use that :D
[06:00] <kothz> There are more fun methods, but most of them require a soldering gun :)
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[06:01] <cyberfall> scp is ok
[06:01] <harisund> whoa kothz! let's stick to software methods :)
[06:01] <kothz> :)
[06:01] <LjL> kothz: my favourite one involved buying quite a few ink cartridges...
[06:01] <cyberfall> but samba is better if u want to open like mp3s to play on a diffrent box
[06:01] <cyberfall> otherwise u got to copy the folder(s)
[06:01] <cyberfall> which kinda blows
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[06:02] <segfault_> cyberfall, nfs
[06:02] <xopher> segfault_, it actually compiles when I commented out the other package from the control file (bmpx-dev), any ideas what I should change to get them both compiled? dpkg-gencontrol: error: must specify package since control info has many. - Was the error..
[06:02] <Luke> is there any way to remove all the packages that are not in the ubuntu-server install or explicitly installed?
[06:02] <cyberfall> nfs?
[06:02] <NotWired> how can i find out which packages are installed on my system from the command line?
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[06:02] <harisund> NotWired: dpkg --list
[06:02] <zmeiat_joro> hey, why didn't I think of that. putty
[06:02] <NotWired> thank you harisund
[06:02] <segfault_> xopher, paste ur control file in pastebin
[06:02] <cyberfall> putty wont transfer the files i think
[06:02] <LjL> Luke: you mean unused dependencies? debfoster or orphaner may help.  also, if you install stuff using aptitude rather than apt-get, removal of unused dependencies will be automatic.
[06:02] <thedash> any way I can see which version of a specific driver I have?
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[06:02] <cyberfall> i think u have to use scp to do that
[06:02] <harisund> zmeiat_joro: I doubt putty will help you transfer files though
[06:03] <LjL> NotWired: dpkg --get-selections
[06:03] <trappist> I use winscp to transfer files
[06:03] <cyberfall> but i scp uses putty as a shell
[06:03] <semPid> o raposa do krlh responde fds
[06:03] <kaypax> can any1 suggest any photoshop-like application for Linux pls?:D
[06:03] <cyberfall> trappist, u got it to allow to open more then one file
[06:03] <trappist> kaypax: gimp
[06:03] <dyn-afk> the gimp offcourse
[06:03] <Luke> LjL: well I installed ubuntu-desktop and I want to remove it and all its deps now
[06:03] <semPid> o raposa do krlh responde fds
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[06:03] <cyberfall> likst say a bunch of mp3s
[06:03] <picochu> is there a sshfs equivalent for windows?
[06:03] <segfault_> cyberfall, u can use nfs server if ur files are on another *nix box and mount that dir locally as if it were on ur machine
[06:03] <LjL> semPid: what the heck are you saying? =)
[06:03] <kaypax> trappist: no, not gimp
[06:03] <trappist> cyberfall: open?  it just transfers files
[06:03] <LjL> semPid: do you speak english?
[06:04] <semPid> sure
[06:04] <trappist> kaypax: that's as close as you'll get without running photoshop in wine
[06:04] <cyberfall> nfs umm..
[06:04] <xopher> segfault_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25179/
[06:04] <harisund> NotWired: actially, dpkg --list | grep ^ii will give you a list of installed packages
[06:04] <semPid> bsdfox, done it, now what
[06:04] <Luke> LjL: debfoster and orphaner just look for unused libs right?
[06:04] <LjL> semPid: ... then way are you keeping saying pasting "<bsdfox> done it" and saying "o raposa do krlh responde fds"
[06:04] <kaypax> ok then, thanx for your advice, I'll try to do with GIMP^^
[06:04] <Sobek> kaypax: Gimp www.gimp.org
[06:05] <LjL> Luke: orphaner looks for libraries and -dev packages. debfoster is more manual, you have to manually tell it which packages you want to keep.  for the future, IMHO the best solution is to use aptitude (though that doesn't help right now)
[06:05] <picochu> i don't think samba traffic are encrypted.
[06:05] <Sobek> kaypax: with the gimpshop plug-in
[06:05] <semPid> LjL, install packard bell wipen?
[06:05] <harisund> picochu: no, samba is not encrypted.
[06:05] <cyberfall> does nfs work like samba would
[06:05] <Luke> LjL: why does aptitude track that stuff?
[06:05] <trappist> picochu: usernames and passwords are, if you configure it that way
[06:05] <stu_> where is the config file for X again, and whats it called please?
[06:05] <LjL> Luke: ... because it's handy? :o)
[06:05] <cyberfall> ill have to do some reading on that thx for the tip
[06:05] <trappist> nfs isn't encrypted either
[06:05] <harisund> stu_: /etc/X11? and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <LjL> Luke: ... because there are many people who'd like to do just what you've asked? ;)
[06:05] <cyberfall> samba isnt eather is it
[06:06] <semPid> LjL, install packard bell wipen?
[06:06] <Luke> LjL: is there a handy way to remove ubuntu-desktop and all its deps with aptitude?
[06:06] <stu_> ta
[06:06] <picochu> trappist,  which is why i use sshfs now
[06:06] <LjL> Luke: no -- well, yes, but only if you had *installed* it using aptitude in the first place
[06:06] <picochu> trappist, harisund  but is there sshfs client for windows systems?
[06:06] <Luke> LjL: thats what i asked origionally
[06:06] <Aque0s> what is better. ubuntu or debian?
[06:06] <stu_> anyone know what this is about: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b  ??
[06:06] <LjL> Luke: if you had done that, it would just be "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop". right now, i think you'll have to live with debfoster/orphaner. i know they aren't optimal
[06:06] <trappist> picochu: sshfs is nice if you're transferring a lot of sensitive files - if it's like music and stuff, that's an awful lot of encryption overhead
[06:06] <Luke> LjL: is there any other solution you know of?
[06:06] <harisund> picochu: good pint .. not to my knowledge.. I believe there was something with cygwin and sshfs.... but not sure.
[06:07] <mtodd> is there a way I can search the the apt-get servers that I don't have selected? (like, unstable, etc) (specifically for Ruby 1.8.5)
[06:07] <LjL> Luke: but your system simply doesn't *know* about which packages you installed manually and which where installed automatically
[06:07] <LjL> semPid: i don't understand what you're saying, sorry
[06:07] <mjr> sshfs is fuse-spesific, I doubt windows/cygwin supports that. But it sure is nice :)
[06:07] <Luke> LjL: aah i see - thank you
[06:07] <bsdfox> semPid, don't be annoying
[06:07] <trappist> Luke: when Edgy comes out, you'll be able to remove ubuntu-desktop, and apt will tell you what packages were automatically installed by it and no longer required
[06:07] <LjL> Luke: although... if you remove libgnome, most -- if not all -- gnome packages will go away
[06:07] <LjL> trappist: really? using what?
[06:07] <picochu> trappist,  encrpytion might be worth it when someone is snopping around :)
[06:07] <harisund> picochu: sshfs requires fuse -- which in turn requires kernel source..
[06:07] <segfault_> xopher, iirc u need only one package line for the bianry, u may need to create a sep pkg to create the -dev lib
[06:07] <semPid> LjL, How can I install a Packard Bell WiPen?
[06:08] <picochu> harisund, not so bad... what's wrong with using kernel source?
[06:08] <LjL> semPid: ah - i didn't get the "wipen"... yet, i have no idea...
[06:08] <trappist> LjL: built into apt
[06:08] <harisund> picochu: I meant on Windows :0
[06:08] <Luke> LjL: i suppose I can remove libgnome (will gtk go away too?) and then get the list of server packages and diff against that?
[06:08] <picochu> harisund, yeah i know.
[06:08] <ja> When adept notifier alerts me of an update, can I find out what the change is in the new package?
[06:08] <stu_> channel for X with berly, xgl or aixgl or whatever its called please?
[06:08] <LjL> trappist: when you say "apt", you actually mean the APT backend? so all of synaptic, adept, apt-get and company will do that?
[06:08] <xopher> segfault_, well when I compile beryl-core, I get beryl beryl-core and beryl-dev, so it should be possible..
[06:08] <trappist> picochu: again, depends on what you're transferring.  if somebody's snooping around my network, the last thing I'm worried about is somebody knowing what I'm listening to.  for example.
[06:09] <manuelchat3000> I have a NAT problem with Azureus. Did port forwarding. Run well on knoppix and windows. et problems with Ubuntu. I tied to allow the port with iptables. But nothing changes
[06:09] <LjL> Luke: no, i don't think libgtk will go away... you could remove that one, though -- it will remove even more stuff.  be careful you don't remove *too* much, though"!
[06:09] <trappist> LjL: I don't use the frontends much, so I don't know if they're all up to date with the functionality, but yeah it's a backend thing.
[06:09] <picochu> harisund, fuse is great i can even turn my inbox to a filesystem
[06:09] <harisund> picochu: indeed!
[06:09] <LjL> trappist: well that's real good news
[06:09] <harisund> manuelchat3000: wait .. you need to have port forwarding done by your gateway ..
[06:09] <manuelchat3000> Anyone experienced the same?
[06:09] <bsdfox> semPid, I can already tell this isn't going to work for you if you can't take what you found and google it
[06:10] <manuelchat3000> Harisund: I did
[06:10] <LjL> Luke: well, i'm not sure where to find a list of standard server packages, though.
[06:10] <geniusvicks> Which ubuntu 6.06 file shud I download? I have Pentium Celeron. Is it "i386" or somethin else
[06:10] <Luke> LjL: thanks for your suggestions. I think I will use aptitude all the time now. I never knew it tracked explicit installs so I didnt see any reason to use it over apt-get
[06:10] <harisund> manuelchat3000: and you opened up the required port using iptables? By default iptables has no blocks . .. anyway, you can try running tcpdump if you want .
[06:10] <LjL> geniusvicks: yes
[06:10] <erUSUL> geniusvicks: i386
[06:10] <geniusvicks> LjL thnks
[06:10] <Luke> LjL: on the CD
[06:11] <picochu> trappist,  i am a little paranoid. If you want to know what i am doing. You'll have to ask me :)
[06:11] <harisund> anyone here used/uses tcpdump? It's a wonderful tool.
[06:11] <LjL> Luke: i guess so, yet i don't know *where* on the cd ;-) but if you have one handy and you know, i guess that would be a possibility
[06:11] <geniusvicks> which is faster torrent or the normal download?
[06:11] <picochu> trappist, I hate stalkers :)
[06:11] <LjL> Luke: note, besides, that you don't have to use the (imho ugly) UI of aptitude... you can just use it (almost) like apt-get, with command line parameters
[06:11] <manuelchat3000> Ok I`ll give a try. Thanks
[06:11] <picochu> geniusvicks,  torrent download speed is proportional to your upload speed
[06:11] <trappist> picochu: I'm security-conscious - so when I transfer anything over the internet, or transfer sensitive data anywhere, I use some manifestation of ssh.  but for most stuff at home, samba or nfs.
[06:11] <erUSUL> geniusvicks: i recomend torrent as it's nicer with the server
[06:12] <geniusvicks> oh
[06:12] <geniusvicks> erUSUL what do u mean, its nicer with the server?
[06:12] <Luke> LjL: oh I didnt know what but I will look into it. Thanks
[06:12] <stu_> channel for X with berly, xgl or aixgl or whatever its called please?
[06:13] <erUSUL> geniusvicks: you do not use bandwithd of the ubuntu server/mirror
[06:13] <geniusvicks> oh
[06:13] <Wanderer> Edgy on my laptop is rather nice
[06:13] <Luke> join #apache
[06:13] <Luke> oops
[06:14] <picochu> trappist,  i keep things consistent, secondly i don't think the encryption has a huge performance hit.
[06:14] <kothz> grumble.  has anyone had experience with a dell flat panel @ 1680x1050 + an intel onboard video adapter?
[06:15] <trappist> picochu: if you use -c blowfish there's much less of it.  that's what I use when I, say, do X forwarding.
[06:15] <Soekisan> hi, I added up another hard drive after the install of ubuntu.  i wanna know how to make it mount on startup
[06:16] <picochu> trappist, okay thanks.
[06:16] <scott_> hey, anyone help me with a usb pen drive issue? just bought a 2gig pen drive, it seems it has 2 paritions (one when switch on it is one way and another when switch is other way), atm i can only mount the partition when the switch is in the locked position, however this partition is only 1.4mb in size, the other partition (which i dont think is formatted) is 2gig in size, how can i get it to see/mount/format the other partition?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> I use NetworkManager to handle my wifi connection, have have noticed that it won't connect until I actually log into Gnome via gdm (i.e. console won't have connection prior).  Why doesn't it just start up on boot?
[06:16] <picochu> trappist,  didn't really benchmark that :P
[06:16] <segfault_> xopher, sry i wont be able to help with that, i would compare ur control file for this to that of beryl-core and see wat is different and try to eliminate the differences
[06:17] <xopher> segfault_, just a sec then
[06:17] <caakins> Can someone help me
[06:17] <geniusvicks> Can I pause in Bit torrent and continue later someother day?
[06:17] <caakins> or give some advice on Adept
[06:17] <LjL> trappist, the apt thing reminds me, what has been / will be of the "Smart Package Manager" that was so talked about (even to the point of saying it would become the default package manager in Ubuntu) before this summer?
[06:17] <manuelchat3000> @harisund: what about tcpdump??
[06:17] <segfault_> !ask
[06:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:17] <Stork> when i try and log in using gnome my monitor says 'Out of signal range', what can i do to fix this? (note: it works fine on fluxbox atm)
[06:17] <LjL> Luke: not really much to look at, it's "sudo aptitude install blah", "sudo aptitude remove blah", "sudo aptitude reinstall blah", "sudo aptitude search blah"
[06:17] <manuelchat3000> What I`m supposed to do with that?
[06:17] <finalbeta> geniusvicks, yes
[06:18] <geniusvicks> finalbeta thanks
[06:18] <trappist> LjL: never heard of that
[06:18] <Luke> LjL: wow that is awesome! thanks!
[06:18] <LjL> trappist: oh
[06:18] <xopher> segfault_, here's the beryl-core one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25182/
[06:19] <LjL> Luke: note that (since a recent new release of aptitude), if you try to remove a package that another package depends upon, it will not just go on and remove them both, but it will search for possible "solutions", give them a score, and present them to you ordered by score
[06:19] <LjL> Luke: i'm telling you this because it put me off a little when this appeared
[06:19] <finalbeta> scott_, that's weird. Normally the switch enabled writing to the stick.  ehm 1.4Mb size partition. Is it a special boot stick or something?
[06:19] <Stork> when i try and log in using gnome my monitor says 'Out of signal range', what can i do to fix this? (note: it works fine on fluxbox atm)
[06:19] <caakins> Why are programs greyed out in    Adept ?
[06:20] <Soekisan> i thought it would be like windows but it seems like i have to declare the new HDD somewere to make it mount on startup, i just dont know where. anyone could tell me please?
[06:20] <LjL> trappist: it's the "smartpm" package anyway, in case you wonder
[06:20] <segfault_> xopher, 1st thing to try is the spacing, between the end of description and next package tag
[06:20] <scott_> finalbeta, not that i know of, the 1.4mb partition has on it a .exe and the manual, telling you that the .exe etc is sued to set a password and the likes, when i switch it to the unlocked position ubuntu won't even see it, let alone mount it :(
[06:20] <scott_> finalbeta, ubuntu's has finally just seen it, although cant mount it
[06:21] <segfault_> xopher, the parser may distinguish pkgs based on spacing
[06:21] <Luke> LjL: oh good call
[06:21] <xopher> segfault_, ok, trying it now
[06:21] <Luke> LjL: thanks agian. I can use this I think
[06:21] <voLvo> nx nx nx nx nx nx helpppppppppppp please
[06:21] <piratepenguin> !edgy
[06:21] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:21] <LjL> !helpme
[06:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:22] <scott_> finalbeta, i get the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25183/
[06:22] <scott_> finalbeta, when trying to mount wiva gnome
[06:22] <caakins> I can't download updates
[06:23] <caakins> It will not give me an option of selecting them
[06:23] <caakins> WHY
[06:23] <voLvo> how to setup openssh server
[06:23] <finalbeta> scott_, I don't know. Reading the error I would think a bad partition table or non formatted disk. But when you buy them that's unlikely.
[06:23] <erUSUL> !ssh
[06:23] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:23] <manuelchat3000> someone of you as a clue about how make working Azureus. I did port forwarding and every goddamn. In windows works, in Ubuntu doesn`t.
[06:23] <LjL> voLvo: "sudo aptitude install openssh-server"
[06:23] <voLvo> ok good thanks LjL
[06:23] <scott_> finalbeta, i think the 2nd partition isnt formatted (well qparted says it isnt, but wont let me format/partition it)
[06:24] <finalbeta> scott_, you are sure it's write enabled? Normally a stick lets you lock it.
[06:24] <RaD|Tz> If I interrupt the upgrade from breezy to edgy, haow can I restart it?
[06:24] <ardchoille> I'm learning about how to design a gui with glade and I ran ./automake.sh and it says "**Error**: You must have `glib' installed." Which package do I need for that?
[06:24] <voLvo> how to check openssh service is running ?
[06:24] <LjL> voLvo: ps aux | grep ssh
[06:24] <scott_> finalbeta, in the locked position it shows me the 1.4mb partition with the .exe and manual in the unlocked partition i cant even mount it :(
[06:24] <RaD|Tz> ardchoille, glib2
[06:25] <voLvo> ok cool LjL thanks
[06:25] <stu_> what challel am I in please, I can only see half my screen
[06:25] <LjL> stu_: #ubuntu
[06:25] <ardchoille> RaD|Tz: I don't see a glib2 package
[06:25] <stu_> damn: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:25] <segfault_> RaD|Tz, upgrades are supported from one version to the next u take ur life in ur hands if u skip a version
[06:25] <maskotilla> ola jilipollas
[06:25] <LjL> !es
[06:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:25] <finalbeta> scott_, well, you really need to put it in unlocked position. But it might be a driver problem. Keep trying in unlocked.
[06:25] <maskotilla> ola
[06:25] <ardchoille> RaD|Tz: I have libglib1.2 and libglib2.0-0 installed
[06:25] <maskotilla> ola
[06:25] <Stork> help! whenever i try and log into gnome my monitor displays 'OUT OF SIGNAL RANGE' :( :(
[06:25] <maskotilla> ola
[06:25] <maskotilla> ola
[06:26] <LjL> !ops
[06:26] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:26] <maskotilla> ola laura
[06:26] <fyrestrtr> !fixres > Stork
[06:26] <scott_> finalbeta, it is unlcoekd position atm, when it cant mount it, trying to mount if manually via commandline says it cant read superblock
[06:26] <gnomefreak> LjL: ?
[06:26] <stu_> what channel am I in please?
[06:26] <RaD|Tz> segfault_, I'm going from 6.06.1 to 6.10
[06:26] <LjL> gnomefreak: maskotilla spamming in spanish
[06:26] <finalbeta> if it's not formatted, you can't mount it... You will need to format/create the partition first (fdisk)
[06:27] <segfault_> RaD|Tz, ahhh ok u said breezy to edgy
[06:27] <Stork> fyrestrtr: can't open the page, i'm in irssi
[06:27] <thedash> how can I see which version of a specific driver I have?
[06:27] <stu_> damn this is annoying, how do I remove something from my session mnaager auto start
[06:27] <finalbeta> scott_,  if it's not formatted, you can't mount it... You will need to format/create the partition first (fdisk)
[06:27] <scott_> finalbeta, fdisk cant open it :(
[06:27] <fyrestrtr> Stork: what does irssi have to do with opening the page?
[06:27] <stu_> nm
[06:27] <scott_> finalbeta, fdisk says unable to read it
[06:27] <LjL> thedash: it depends, "drivers" can be many things in ubuntu. what do you want to know?
[06:27] <Stork> fyrestrtr: .. i'm on tty1 ..
[06:28] <thedash> LjL:: specifically which version of the Silicon imaging SATA drivers
[06:28] <finalbeta> scott_, no idea then :/, ask on forums. They are back up.
[06:28] <thedash> I think its 3112, but I would like to be sure
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> Stork: you need to edit xorg.conf and set the proper refresh rates for your monitor.
[06:28] <RaD|Tz> sorry I mean dapper
[06:28] <LjL> thedash: uhm, i don't see any package mentioning them... they're probably a standard part of the kernel, i'd assume
[06:29] <A[D] minS> !xgl
[06:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:30] <thedash> LjL:: thats possible, I don't know a whole lot about them, but I have problems with them, and there are a lot of sources on the internet saying that they are the cause of a lot of problems with Seagate SATA drives
[06:30] <dfgas> which is better for nvidia, aiglx or xgl?
[06:30] <thedash> LjL:: I was looking to find which exact version I have so I can better research a cuure
[06:31] <fyrestrtr> dfgas: only xgl works with nvidia.
[06:31] <BenCovUK> hi all! how do I install the latex packages in EdgyEft? thanks :-)
[06:31] <fyrestrtr> BenCovUK: #ubuntu+1
[06:31] <LjL> thedash: well, *if* they're part of the kernel, then i'm afraid you'd just have to wait for a newer kernel. can't seem to find too much on google though
[06:32] <Soekisan> how do i know what ubuntu version i've got
[06:32] <LjL> Soekisan: cat /etc/issue
[06:32] <LjL> !edgy
[06:32] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:32] <BenCovUK> fyrestrtr: thanks sorry for that
[06:33] <Soekisan> it says Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l  <-- means i should upgrade?
[06:33] <LjL> Soekisan: no. that's the current release version.
[06:33] <thedash> LjL:: I think the issue is that the kernel does not yet have decent support to run the SATA controller on my motherboard
[06:33] <LjL> Soekisan: also known as the Dapper Drake.
[06:33] <Soekisan> whats the code name?
[06:33] <Soekisan> dapper?
[06:34] <Soekisan> good then i wasnt that wrong.
[06:35] <isaboni> isabel
[06:35] <maquigo> Anahi
[06:37] <Soekisan> LjL:  dows edgy have an ETR?
[06:37] <trappist> Soekisan: don't know what etr is, but /join #ubuntu+1 for edgy help
[06:37] <LjL> !tell Soekisan about schedule
[06:37] <Soekisan> Estimated Time of Release
[06:39] <selinuxium> Hi all, This is a problem I seem to get after using an Ubuntu system for a while. While trying to shutdown first time it pops up an alert 'Your Session has been saved' but I have not got the save session box ticked in my sessions. How do I stop it?
[06:39] <jazzrocker> misfit_toy, ding dong
 no it does not
[06:40] <selinuxium> Then I have to click shutdown again for it to shut down
[06:40] <Tokenbad> to install beryl should we remove compiz first?
[06:42] <justthisguy> does anyone know what modules I'd have to insert for usb (mass storage, I think)? For some reason theyre not getting done automatically after I upgraded. many tia
[06:43] <spocky> hi
[06:43] <billfur> hi
[06:45] <HiP_P> !help
[06:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:45] <spocky> I'm trying to use edgy-beta, and I'm having a problem with sudo. Suddenly sudo says "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 29 20:39:46 2006" if I try to sudo anything. If I change the system time to some time after that it works, but if I get the real time, I get the same message... What could this be? And what could I do about it?
[06:45] <romaluca> i have this problem with upgrade ubuntu tu 6.10beta:Can't mark 'ubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.) How i can do?
[06:46] <Gumby> anyone here know how toget amarok to play m4a files?  Ive followed a howto online and installed the required packages but still no aac support
[06:46] <HiP_P> !help oss
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <HiP_P> !help alsa
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help alsa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <HiP_P> hmmm
[06:48] <HiP_P> anyone know how to switch skype to oss instend of alsa?
[06:49] <Wanderer> anyone know how to adjust the sensitivity on the scrollwheel type thing on a trackpad for a laptop?
[06:49] <Wanderer> HiP I think you can change the raw sound device
[06:49] <selinuxium> !eft
[06:49] <ubotu> eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy
[06:49] <selinuxium> !edgy
[06:49] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:49] <pwk> it says u can make calls anywher efor ffrre using skype.. but i can only call a land line phone in canada ?
[06:50] <selinuxium> spocky: Ask in #ubuntu+1  :)
[06:50] <xopher> segfault_, thanks, it actually worked. the space was needed
[06:51] <scarabatwork> hello, everyone.  I'm trying to get postfix working on ubuntu server 6.1 and keep running into the error "fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use"
[06:51] <scarabatwork> is this a good question for here, or should i go to #postfix?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> pwk i think international calls are not free.
[06:54] <juliano> how do i see the size of a folder using the terminal?
[06:54] <POVaddct> juliano: du -sh foldername
[06:54] <juliano> tks
[06:55] <jazzrocker> !alsa
[06:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:55] <jazzrocker> !oss
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <segfault_> xopher, np i recall the parser for the control file not being very intelligent
[06:56] <yakumo> hello
[06:56] <jazzrocker> hi
[06:56] <POVaddct> juliano: btw, "folder" is windowsspeak, it's called "directory" in unix
[06:56] <yakumo> is there any download accelerator for ubuntu???
[06:57] <jazzrocker> POVaddct, iirc it's called "dir" in windows as well
[06:57] <jazzrocker> POVaddct, and regardless... they do usually mean the same thing
[06:57] <snarfer> yakumo: Try Google.com/linux
[06:57] <gh0st> helolo, how can i get the latest built of VLC for amd64?
[06:57] <snarfer> And google for something
[06:57] <snarfer> That, or use wget
[06:58] <gh0st> can i simply use the one for debian?
[06:58] <jazzrocker> gh0st, usually you can try that yes, but there's no guarantee that simply installing a .deb will work if it's not for Ubuntu specifically
[06:59] <LjL> yakumo: d4x, gwget, jigdo -- for Gnome programs
[06:59] <yakumo> i have d4x
[06:59] <LjL> yakumo: from the console, axel is nice -- and wget is the most used downloader, though it's not really an "accelerator"
[06:59] <romaluca> i have this problem with upgrade ubuntu tu 6.10beta:Can't mark 'ubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.) How i can do?
[06:59] <Jas-Nix> hello, I have a ViewSonic monitor, and the only way to get it to work is to add a ModeLine to my xorg.conf, how can I do that with the livecd ?
[06:59] <LjL> yakumo: if you want to download a file from multiple servers concurrently, i suggest axel
[07:00] <yakumo> how do i continue my download??
[07:00] <nickspoon> Jas-Nix: try the Alternate Boot CD.
[07:00] <magda> hola
[07:00] <LjL> yakumo: with wget? "-c" option
[07:00] <yakumo> thnks il try it
[07:00] <Jas-Nix> nickspoon: ok so can't do it with livecd huh, the alternate requires a full install without being aable to try it out right ?
[07:01] <snarfer> I have a non-support question, but not so much as it is a question, than a statement.
[07:01] <LjL> yakumo: note that, like most programs, you can read a comprehensive reference for wget by typing "man wget"
[07:01] <yakumo> is d4x allow you to continue your download?
[07:01] <LjL> yakumo: yes
[07:01] <nickspoon> Jas-Nix: yeah.
[07:01] <LjL> yakumo: not that i used it much, but it certainly does
[07:01] <snarfer> I have to do a big year-long project at my school, so I h have decided to give students server-based services based on FOSS
[07:01] <jazzrocker> LjL, i'd hardly go so far as to call most man pages "comprehensive"
[07:02] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i change permissions of directories I copied of my external hdd as root so that all file contained within them can be read and writtin to by me
[07:02] <LjL> jazzrocker: well, the wget one is.
[07:02] <yakumo> but i can't seem to open my d4x. its always crush everytime i open it
[07:02] <snarfer> I have had nothing but positive output from Ubuntu, I think I will continue to use it for this project.
[07:02] <jazzrocker> LjL, fair'nuff
[07:03] <kurt> hi I just tried to add a printer true cups (as written in Ubuntu unleased)
[07:04] <kurt> but he asked me the username and pasword
[07:04] <kurt> but don't have the root pwd
[07:04] <LjL> !cups
[07:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:04] <LjL> kurt: CUPS access via the web is disabled
[07:04] <frank95com> hello
[07:04] <kurt> LjL: so the Ubuntu unleashed is wrong here?
[07:04] <yakumo> if i use the wget. where is the download file go?
[07:05] <snarfer> Can Ubuntu print via samba?
[07:05] <snarfer> It should...
[07:05] <LjL> kurt: i dunno. you can enable it, of course. perhaps it is talking about an older version that has it enabled
[07:05] <LjL> kurt: don't ask me how to get it enabled though, i don't know. i suppose it'll be somewhere in the links above
[07:05] <kurt> :)
[07:05] <kurt> tnx for helping LjL
[07:06] <GNu_Joe> How to add more desktops on Gnome? I want 6 or 8 instead of the default 4
[07:07] <Juhaz> right click on the pager. properties
[07:07] <jazzrocker> right click on the pager
[07:07] <GNu_Joe> Juhaz: jazzrocker tried that did not work
[07:08] <jazzrocker> GNu_Joe, then you're on crack
[07:08] <GNu_Joe> I'm also running compiz ( would that make a diffrence ? )
[07:08] <jazzrocker> oh
[07:08] <jazzrocker> might
[07:11] <GNu_Joe> any ideas on how to google it?
[07:11] <soundmaster80> there should be a compiz manager for gnome that you can change it in
[07:11] <soundmaster80> at least i thought there was
[07:13] <sureshot> here is a stupid question what is compiz
[07:13] <nickspoon> GNu_Joe: system->preferences->compiz settings manager, choose the 'rotate cube' options and change the number of faces.
[07:14] <GNu_Joe> sureshot: it's a 3D desktop useing the GLX lib in X
[07:14] <GNu_Joe> nickspoon: let me try, I disabled the cube
[07:14] <sureshot> is it different than just plan gnome
[07:14] <nickspoon> GNu_Joe: whoops, I mean 'general desktop'->virtual horizontal width.
[07:15] <GNu_Joe> sureshot: yes, it's all the eye candy that will go into the next version of OSX ( mac ) and Vista
[07:15] <yakumo> anyone know how to remove program. i try using add/remove program but the program i want to remove is not where to be found? pls
[07:16] <Descention> if im using the terminal, how can i show only as much as my window can hold at a time?  so it doesnt page through all the information before going too far up the screen?
[07:16] <junix-br> in the dapper installation the wi-fi board is recognized and ndiswrapper (restricted module) is installed ?
[07:16] <GNu_Joe> nickspoon: THANKS! that was it
[07:17] <nickspoon> no problem :)
[07:17] <junix-br> somebody knows?
[07:17] <erUSUL> Descention: use a pager such as less e.g. 'ls -al | less'
[07:17] <GNu_Joe> nickspoon: whould not have though that setting was it... does it sound like a bug report?
[07:17] <sureshot> is it difacult to instal xand use i have a ati mobility radeon 600 se with 128mb on board
[07:17] <orbital04> Hi, anyone familiar with Sound Recorder and the Rhythm Box music player? I have Ubuntu 6.0
[07:18] <Descention> erUSUL: thank you
[07:18] <nickspoon> GNu_Joe: I'd say yeah. Took me a bit of digging :)
[07:18] <erUSUL> Descention: np
[07:18] <GNu_Joe> sureshot: it's not that easy, BUT it is the easyest in Ubuntu though
[07:19] <sureshot> thanks is it in the repos
[07:19] <shriphani> when you got to install ati drivers it is easyubuntu
[07:19] <shriphani> point and click to install them
[07:19] <yakumo> how do i reinstall program using apt-get install
[07:20] <GNu_Joe> sureshot: check-out => http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper
[07:20] <erUSUL> !easyubuntu
[07:20] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:20] <HiP_P> Wanderer: how do i do that?
[07:20] <shriphani> thats the one
[07:20] <abbi2b> :)
[07:20] <shriphani> yakumo, apt-get remove and then install it again
[07:20] <orbital04> My 'problem' is when I'm playing a radio stream with Rhythm Box and record it with Sound Recorder in 'capture' mode, I get an .ogg file that plays with no sound. Other ogg files seem to play alright. Any thoughts out there?
[07:21] <yakumo> thnks
[07:21] <shriphani> the deb you downloaded is saved
[07:21] <shriphani> so apt-get wont downoad the package again
[07:21] <orbital04> mmn
[07:22] <shriphani> nat/ibm eh
[07:22] <shriphani> cool
[07:22] <dirk_> whats the repositiry where i can download kernel-source or kernel-tre 2.6.15 ?
[07:23] <dirk_> is there some universal repo?
[07:23] <dirk_> whats the repositiry where i can download kernel-source or kernel-tre 2.6.15 ?
[07:23] <shriphani> dirk_, isnt there a website ?
[07:23] <sureshot> how do you change what browser konversation opens up when you click on an url it opens opra what it to open firefox or mozilla
[07:23] <dirk_> which?
[07:23] <dirk_> what website
[07:23] <shriphani> http://kernel.org/
[07:23] <shriphani> thats the website
[07:24] <dirk_> ok, how do i use synaptik with it?
[07:24] <kjm> is there a codec to play music from an iPod that has been purchased from iTunes store?  Plays all my mp3's etc. fine, just not the crap DRM'ed things.
[07:24] <shriphani> dirk_, what ?
[07:24] <Starker> I have recently installed Ubuntu.. The problem is its giving me hard time configuring the internet. I use Ethernet dsl modem... Its already installed and working with Ubuntu have checked every possible thing I could have applied my Isp setting too i.e Dns Ip blah blah... can anyone tell me what possibly the reason could be its not connecting to internet
[07:25] <dirk_> i want to apt-get the kernel source that corresponds my kernel image
[07:25] <shriphani> well check it then and download the source from kernel.org
[07:25] <HiP_P> in fact how do i switch from alsa to oss as the sound deamon
[07:26] <kjm> Starker : for some reason, sometimes when you use static settings, sometimes on reboot, DNS servers are cleared.  So, you are probably "connecting" just have no DNS configured.
[07:26] <kjm> Starker : I found some fixes through google, but haven't tried any of them, cause I rarely reboot.
[07:27] <shriphani> Starker, you entered the nameserver addresses in resolv.conf ?
[07:27] <HiP_P> !alsa
[07:27] <knapper> can anyone tell me if there is such a thing has a kubuntu unstable repository? I'm looking for a repo that contains the unstable version of kwin-baghira.
[07:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:27] <erUSUL> HiP_P: oss and alsa are not sound daemons they are sound driver framewoks for the kernel. newer kernels us alsa by default but with a copability oss layer so older apps (and skype) can work
[07:27] <porkpie> guy I am just trying to build a dell power edge with Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC they are not being detected
[07:28] <Starker> Shriphani : now English please.. I dont understand this lingo ..I happen to a window user switched to Ubuntu yesterday :)
[07:28] <HiP_P> ahhh
[07:28] <Starker> to be *
[07:28] <shriphani> hmm i was just asking if you put the dns server addresses in resolv.conf
[07:29] <HiP_P> so how do you switch over to oss because the sound card is list alsa only
[07:29] <kjm> shripani : I take from his response - he didn't.  Starker - use your Administration->Network GUI.  Click on the "DNS" tab and enter the name server that is supplied by your ISP.
[07:29] <shriphani> shriphani@ubuntu-box:/etc$ cat resolv.conf
[07:29] <shriphani> nameserver 203.187.192.15
[07:29] <shriphani> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:30] <Starker> I dont know man what this resolv.conf actually is.. I used Adminitrator> netwrok to enter my configurations
[07:30] <erUSUL> HiP_P: you can't
[07:30] <shriphani> Starker, type cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:30] <HiP_P> ah bum :(
[07:30] <kjm> Starker : check this thread - it will fix the problem (if it is DNS).  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225008
[07:30] <orbital04> Hi, I have Ubuntu 6.0. When I try to record radio streams I'm listening to on Rhythm Box with Sound Recorder, I end up with an .ogg file that plays but there is no sound. Other .ogg files seem to play ok. Any thoughts out there?
[07:30] <shriphani> and paste the output here if it aint huge
[07:30] <A[D] minS> Starker:  resolv.conf DNS file
[07:31] <shriphani> that will help us know if the dns server addresses are actually there or not
[07:31] <sureshot> how do you change what browser konversation opens up when you click on an url it opens opra what it to open firefox or mozilla
[07:31] <HiP_P> hmmm
[07:31] <erUSUL> HiP_P: however you can use oss apps becouse alsa sets up a comp. layer as i said
[07:31] <shriphani> sureshot, chane default browser to firefox
[07:32] <marshall> hey guys
[07:32] <shriphani> but i dun use kde to dont bother asking how
[07:32] <marshall> how does svn work?
[07:32] <marshall> !svn
[07:32] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[07:32] <HiP_P> ah but i think skype is using alsa
[07:32] <shriphani> HiP_P, skype linux sucks
[07:32] <erUSUL> !skype
[07:32] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:32] <A[D] minS> how i can link /media/d/mp3/ to /vaw/www/mp3/ to axx it from my webserver ?
[07:32] <shriphani> to the core
[07:32] <Starker> Guys I am currently on windows I'll have to reboot to use those commands.... Checking that thread Kjm suggested ...brb
[07:33] <marshall> shriphani, agreed
[07:33] <HiP_P> done that still getting "no convo" error
[07:33] <kjm> Starker : cool - good luck with it.
[07:33] <orbital04> ahhhhh, Windoze!!!
[07:33] <shriphani> it says problem with sound device almost every time i play media on mine
[07:33] <erUSUL> A[D] minS: 'man ln'
[07:33] <A[D] minS> good idea lol
[07:33] <tekian> I'm running Ubuntu on a dell inspiron e1705, using SigmaTel STAC9200 driver for audio. For some reaso, I can fine "Master Mono" which controls my subwoofer. Anyone able to help?
[07:34] <HiP_P> ill give it another shot
[07:34] <shriphani> A[D] minS, wouldnt that be ln -s blah blah blah blah
[07:35] <piratepenguin> !aiglx
[07:35] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:36] <godfather> guys...good evening
[07:36] <snk0> hi
[07:36] <kjm> hello there
[07:36] <godfather> a question for you
[07:36] <godfather> is it possible using Ekiga to call Skype users?
[07:37] <snk0> hi can anyone tell me whats the best way to try to autorecognize new devices in ubuntu server ?
[07:37] <tekian> I'm running Ubuntu on a dell inspiron e1705, using SigmaTel STAC9200 driver for audio. For some reaso, I can fine "Master Mono" which controls my subwoofer. Anyone able to help?
[07:37] <rraphink> !flash
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:38] <LeonWP> hi
[07:38] <difeta> where can I find out how to get jsp pages to run in apache?
[07:38] <LeonWP> is there a tool which tells me the write speed of a disk?
[07:38] <erUSUL> snk0: new devices are discovered by the kernel at boot time
[07:39] <godfather> guys please helpme
[07:39] <erUSUL> LeonWP: hdparm -t or/and -T /dev/hdx
[07:39] <godfather> !
[07:39] <snk0> is there a way to see which devices were recognized ?
[07:39] <erUSUL> godfather: no
[07:39] <A[D] minS> shriphani: sudo ln -t /media/d/Mp3/ mp3 done but when i open it from http i find it empty
[07:39] <godfather> why not?
[07:39] <erUSUL> snk0: lspci list all pci devices
[07:39] <snk0> ok thanks
[07:39] <shriphani> lsusb for the usb ones
[07:39] <erUSUL> godfather: different protocols
[07:39] <LeonWP> erUSUL, doesn't that only tell me the read speed?
[07:39] <godfather> so tell me the name of a programe tha uses skype protocol
[07:40] <godfather> running on linux
[07:40] <erUSUL> godfather: skype
[07:40] <erUSUL> !skype
[07:40] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:40] <shriphani> A[D] minS, i dont know about that
[07:40] <tekian> !subwoofer
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subwoofer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <PAK_013> A[D] minS, try: sudo ln -s source [destination] 
[07:40] <shriphani> i just use ln to make a trash can in xubuntu
[07:40] <HiP_P> !socallife
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about socallife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <tekian> !mastermono
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mastermono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <HiP_P> know the feeling
[07:41] <snk0> as i don't know anything of networking/linux, i would like a nice guide to tell me howto setup my ubuntu server as a router
[07:41] <snk0> i found a guide in the howto, but it's using webmin, and i want to do it entirely by commandline
[07:42] <sureshot> i know i am using fglrx or i think i am but when i type fglrxinfo i get no such comman ?????
[07:42] <HiP_P> hmmm little bit closer
[07:42] <HiP_P> but getting "/dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy"
[07:42] <A[D] minS> PAK_013: i did it but it empty :D
[07:42] <A[D] minS> thats mean i can't axx it :D
[07:43] <A[D] minS> i did chmod +xor linkf
[07:43] <tekian> !alsa
[07:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:43] <shriphani> HiP_P, i had the same probs
[07:43] <hischam> where can i see the temperatur of my CPU/mb/etc...?
[07:43] <shriphani> i dont still know what the fark is /dev/dsp-1
[07:43] <HiP_P> you sound card
[07:43] <HiP_P> *your
[07:43] <shriphani> /dev/dsp
[07:43] <shriphani> but /dev/dsp-1
[07:44] <kurtiss> hi all, i'm installing ubuntu for the first time, and i'm sitting at the partition dialog (after choosing Next) with a busy mouse cursor and no progress indicator.  is this normal?  how long would this process take normally?
[07:44] <HiP_P> ahhh you've pointed something out to me cheers
[07:44] <tjb> Will the next major release of Ubuntu include Xgl?
[07:44] <Descention> if i were to restart my computer after adding a route, will the route be cleared?
[07:44] <erUSUL> HiP_P: lsof /dev/dsp-1 to see who is using the device (iirc)
[07:45] <HiP_P> vsound is going for the wrong card by the looks of it
[07:45] <hischam> where can i see the temperature of my CPU/mb/etc...?
[07:45] <hume> hi... it seems that there is a lot of network traffic to and from my computer, that feels strange (shown by knetload) - is there a way to see what ports it comes from?
[07:45] <lele_> lele_72
[07:46] <sureshot> i know i am using fglrx or i think i am but when i type fglrxinfo i get no such command ?????
[07:46] <erUSUL> hischam: lm-sensors, sensors
[07:46] <justthisguy> hischam: if you have the necessary hardware, try out gkrellm and some  of the plugins it has
[07:46] <lele_> ciao a tutti quelli che ci sono ;qua si parla in italiano?
[07:46] <erUSUL> hume: man netstat
[07:46] <erUSUL> !it
[07:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:46] <hume> erUSUL, command line tool?
[07:46] <hischam> ok thanks
[07:46] <lele_> ok grazie
[07:46] <erUSUL> hume: yes
[07:47] <porkpie> guys I am just trying to build a dell power edge with Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC they are not being detected
[07:47] <wetduck> What is an oem account?
[07:47] <trappist> sureshot: I think fglrxinfo is deprecated.  not sure about that though.
[07:47] <hume> erUSUL, seems that there is one package netstat-nat - is that it?
[07:48] <trappist> porkpie: google might be useful there, to tell you what driver (if any) is used for that
[07:48] <sureshot> ok trappist thanks can you give me the comman to look at my xconf file using nano
[07:48] <trappist> porkpie: that would be step one
[07:48] <trappist> sureshot: sudoedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:48] <rapera> hola
[07:48] <dirk_> guys
[07:48] <sureshot> thanks man
[07:48] <rapera> ey,ke tal?
[07:48] <wetduck> How do I access my oem account?
[07:48] <dirk_> i need a source.list file
[07:48] <erUSUL> hume: it should be instaled
[07:48] <dirk_> that has universal repos
[07:48] <porkpie> trappist:I don'r know ...this is a brand new server  ....
[07:49] <erUSUL> hume: it comes in net-tools
[07:49] <trappist> porkpie: I mean look up the broadcom device
[07:49] <dirk_> can you send iy to me?
[07:49] <dirk_> can you send it to me?
[07:49] <porkpie> OK
[07:49] <hume> erUSUL, right. found it now
[07:49] <HiP_P> ahhhh
[07:49] <rapera> espaol please!!
[07:49] <HiP_P> getting closer
[07:49] <justthisguy> dirk_: if you have gnome defaultly installed, you can make one easily with software properties
[07:49] <dirk_> i need a source.list file
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[07:49] <DigitalNinja> Does any know if cryptsetup and LUKS format can be used to encrypt the "root" file system?
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[07:49] <Rez> Warning: `rapera' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
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[07:49] <trappist> rapera: cut it out.
[07:49] <trappist> awesome
[07:50] <dirk_> i need kernel-sources 2.6.15
[07:50] <trappist> <3 freenode
[07:50] <dirk_> plz
[07:50] <shriphani> dirk_, source-o-matic
[07:50] <trappist> dirk_: what for?
[07:50] <shriphani> and kernel.rg has the source
[07:50] <dirk_> -shriphani-: whats sourcomatic?
[07:50] <shriphani> kernel.org
[07:50] <dirk_> wtf
[07:50] <dirk_> i need a source.list file
[07:50] <hume> erUSUL, there seems to be a lot of "active UNIX domain sockets" - are they just local or can they be malign?
[07:50] <shriphani> dirk_, a ubuntu sources.list generator
[07:50] <sureshot> guess i am not using fglrx it says ati.. how to chang if i change the driver to fglrx and dont have it x wont work may i ask how to change it
[07:50] <dirk_> so also can get other stuff
[07:51] <bbrazil> !easysource
[07:51] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:51] <bbrazil> hume: local
[07:51] <justthisguy> dirk, and software properties can do it too, with quite a lot of control
[07:51] <justthisguy> but take your pick
[07:51] <trappist> sureshot: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and change 'ati' to 'fglrx' in your xorg config
[07:52] <trappist> !ati
[07:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:52] <sureshot> trappist you the man thanks again
[07:52] <erUSUL> hume: use 'netstat -inet -pn'
[07:52] <trappist> sureshot: check that out
[07:52] <erUSUL> dirk_: install linux-source
[07:53] <hume> erUSUL, but that just shows me the interfaces?
[07:53] <tjb> Does Edgy contain Xgl?
[07:53] <wetduck> How do I access my oem account?
[07:54] <trappist> wetduck: what *is* an oem account.
[07:54] <erUSUL> hume: is 'netstat --inet -pn' sorry
[07:54] <sureshot> trappist ok man thanks
[07:54] <hume> ok
[07:54] <wetduck> trappist, after installing Ubuntu the only account avaiable is an oem account. I mean the last version. Do you have last version Ubuntu?
[07:55] <mih> exit
[07:56] <erUSUL> wetduck: only if you install in oem mode. and you only do that if you have a good reason
[07:56] <erUSUL> !oem
[07:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:56] <dj_baggio> !aiglx
[07:56] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:56] <xplic1t> can i upgrade dapper's php5 from 5.1.2 to 5.1.6?
[07:56] <xplic1t> using the tar.gz from php.net?
[07:56] <erUSUL> xplic1t: no
[07:57] <erUSUL> xplic1t: do you really need the latest version??
[07:57] <xplic1t> i just need to recompile it to support xslt
[07:57] <trappist> wetduck: I still don't know what you mean by oem
[07:57] <bignose_> so.. i just changed my hostname using sudo hostname, and toally buggered sudo ;) now i can't sudo to edit my hosts files and keep getting this error sudo: unable to lookup zim via gethostbyname()
[07:57] <trappist> wetduck: do you mean the account you set up during installation?
[07:58] <D-Man`> anyone running ubuntu and osx dual boot ?
[07:58] <porkpie1> can some tell me what the server channel is called
[07:58] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[07:58] <miranda82> hello everyone
[07:58] <linuxboyfriend> is it possible to install ichat in ubuntu?
[07:58] <wetduck> erUSUL, Ok, I did that, don't know why, and I worked in it per almoust a week. Today I decided to start my *official* account and all folders I used to have in /Desktop are gonne. Do you have any idea about there it could be?
[07:58] <miranda82> does anyone know if it's possible to allow desktop scaling in vncserver?
[07:59] <erUSUL> trappist: if you install in oem mode you do not get asked for username/password and instead an oem/oem accaunt is created to set up the system
[07:59] <kurtiss> man, the ubuntu installer's partition manager just fscked me
[07:59] <arcade> erUSUL: Hmpfh.  I'm kind of embarrassed.  I finally found out why that machine I had problems with yesterday, failed.
[07:59] <justthisguy> wetduck: your original files should be in /home/<oemusername> ?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  differnet vncviewers have different features.. ive seen some for windows that allow that.. i think the kde vncviewer does also
[07:59] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, thx, i'm looking in the man page but i can't find it...
[08:00] <porkpie1> trappist:what information do you need to know about this Dual Embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit Ethernet NIC
[08:00] <erUSUL> wetduck: you used the oem accaunt untill today? and now created a new user and you are using it. the files you created so far are still afaics in the oem home folder
[08:00] <wetduck> erUSUL, yes, more or lass like that.
[08:00] <porkpie1> trappist:there is a redhat and suse driver for this ...
[08:00] <brett_h> Er, can anyone help me find 'gzcat' --- Doesn't seem to be provided by anything I can find...
[08:01] <justthisguy> brett_h: can less do something like that?
[08:01] <erUSUL> wetduck: as i said the files must be in the oem home folder
[08:01] <wetduck> erUSUL, in fact I dont need to create a new account but access my acount.
[08:01] <wetduck> The thing is I have no /home/oem
[08:01] <B4L1STA> Can anyone help me with installing from my USB thumb drive?
[08:01] <brett_h> justthisguy: But I don't want a pager, I want a pipe
[08:01] <wetduck> I just have /home/wetduck
[08:01] <shriphani> brett_h, is that an app
[08:01] <brett_h> shriphani: Yes
[08:01] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, do u know another server i could use to do it?
[08:02] <erUSUL> wetduck: make a search in the whole system for the files they must be somewhere
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  its not a server thing.. its a vnc client thing.. i think
[08:02] <Rookie-> !alsa
[08:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:02] <wetduck> erUSUL, I did that. Nothing found in the hole system.
[08:02] <DiLupo> evening
[08:02] <justthisguy> brett_h: I thought less could do pipes, but maybe not
[08:02] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, nah, cuz my client (in the palm) has desktop scaling options
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  ive used Ultravnc on windows and had all sorts of neat vncviewer options/scaling/modes/tweaks
[08:02] <shriphani> brett_h, apt-cache search gzcat
[08:02] <M_A_K> Twice I have installed kubuntu and both times after restart i get "Boot Sector Invalid".  What can I do?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  Palm? Ick!
[08:03] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, yeah, but i do not want windows...
[08:03] <erUSUL> wetduck: i've never set up a oem install so i do not know what may have happened maybe when you created the new user the oem accaunt got deleted....
[08:03] <wetduck> erUSUL, maybe the only way to access those is login as oem, but that doesn't work anymore tha way it used to work before I activate this account I am in now.
[08:03] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, what's wrong with palm?
[08:03] <B4L1STA> MAK, did you install LILO or grub?
[08:03] <M_A_K> I am guessing grub (default install).  Never got an option.
[08:04] <DiLupo> anyone have exp with Atheros WIFI devices under Ubuntu?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  for a vncviewer - egads...
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  You gotbetter eyes then I do..
[08:04] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, sorry?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> Lol.
[08:04] <B4L1STA> All I can say is that i'd go throuhg the install in expert mode, it gives you more options on installing the bootloader
[08:04] <B4L1STA> i dunno though
[08:05] <porkpie1> trappist:14e4164c  Yes  Broadcom Corporation  NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet  bnx2     this is from the debian hcl
[08:05] <shriphani> B4L1STA, the dapper install is graphial
[08:05] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, sorry... i'm lost...
[08:05] <xplic1t> I used apt-get install sablotron.   how can I configure php to recognize it?
[08:05] <justthisguy> brett_h: I have a gzcat on my system, its a perl program from libcompress-zlib-perl, though
[08:05] <porkpie1> trappist:any idea where I get the driver for ubuntu
[08:05] <B4L1STA> but you get an option for "expert" when you first boot
[08:05] <shriphani> B4L1STA, no
[08:05] <shriphani> its just a live cd
[08:06] <thenakedcowboy> hey does anyone know a good way to convert mp3 files using hoary ubuntu?
[08:06] <erUSUL> wetduck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview have you runned 'sudo oem-config-prepare'?? becouse that deletes the oem account
[08:06] <shriphani> or wait
[08:06] <B4L1STA> even on the live CD though
[08:06] <shriphani> there is Start Or  Install Ubuntu first
[08:06] <Jas-Nix> can anyone tell me what "install in oem mode" means ?
[08:06] <M_A_K> So what can I do?  Is there a way to correct it?
[08:06] <B4L1STA> when you first put it in you have bootime parameters...
[08:06] <shriphani> B4L1STA, i think y are right
[08:06] <wetduck> erUSUL, yes I run 'sudo oem-config-prepare'
[08:06] <erUSUL> Jas-Nix:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[08:06] <DiLupo> convert mp3 files to what?
[08:07] <B4L1STA> I'm not completely sure, but it sounds like the bootloader isnt getting installer properly
[08:07] <jman8888> Is there any good games to play in Cedega?
[08:07] <Jas-Nix> cool thanx
[08:07] <xamox> alright I just setup ubuntu server
[08:07] <xamox> and have done a: apt-get update
[08:07] <B4L1STA> So can anyone help me install from a USB thumb drive?
[08:07] <erUSUL> wetduck: then as the wiki page says the oem account get deleted and your files probably are gone :( sorry
[08:07] <xamox> then apt-get -y install links
[08:07] <xamox> and it wants the cd-rom drive
[08:07] <thenakedcowboy> convert them to .wav
[08:07] <xamox> but I want it to grab it from the net
[08:07] <xamox> what do I have to do?
[08:07] <M_A_K> B4L1STA : so how do I correct this?
[08:08] <shriphani> xamox, what did sudo apt-get update show up on the screen ?
[08:08] <DiLupo> why would you want to do that?
[08:08] <HiP_P> anyways ---- cheers all catch ya later
[08:08] <xamox> DiLupo, me?
[08:08] <B4L1STA> MAK: i'm not completely sure but just try going back through the install process in expert mode, maybe try using LILO instead of GRUB, but that's just a guess i'm not sure it will work
[08:08] <M_A_K> How do I use expert mode?
[08:09] <xamox> do I have manually specify my sources in apt-get to use the net instead of my cd-rom?
[08:09] <B4L1STA> when it firsts boots the CD there's a prompt and you would normally just hit enter, but instead type 'expert' and then hit enter
[08:09] <DiLupo> no, the converting MP3 to WAV, why would you want to do that? convert to Ogg, yup, to WAV, why?
[08:09] <M_A_K> I will try.  Thanks
[08:09] <wetduck> erUSUL, My lord I used to have important stuff there. Is there a way to log as root in Ubuntu?
[08:09] <sureshot> !ati
[08:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <B4L1STA> xamox, try editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <wetduck> !oem
[08:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:10] <shriphani> xamox, uncomment the sources
[08:10] <erUSUL> wetduck: 'sudo -i' gives you a root shell but i'm afraid that will not be of much help...
[08:10] <thenakedcowboy> well what is a good way to convert them to ogg? or is there an mp3 player available? i just installed ubuntu last night, i dont know an awful lot about it
[08:10] <shriphani> wetduck isnt there a rescue mode or something
[08:11] <jman8888> thenakedcowboy: amarok
[08:11] <DiLupo> xmms is a good MP3 player
[08:11] <shriphani> thenakedcowboy, soundconverter
[08:11] <wetduck> erUSUL, yes, I am not trying to recover that files through that. I just want to open some extra painesl that an oem account have.
[08:11] <bsdfox> I like amarok
[08:11] <jman8888> !mp3 > thenakedcowboy
[08:11] <shriphani> to convert them to ogg
[08:11] <erUSUL> wetduck:  apt-cache search undelete try this utilities i've never done so myself but may be the only thing you can do
[08:11] <xamox> don't you need kde libs for Amarok?
[08:11] <justthisguy> DiLupo: beep-media-player is an updated version of xmms
[08:11] <wetduck> shriphani, yes. I think that there is a rescue from install cd.
[08:11] <justthisguy> its pretty good
[08:11] <xamox> wetduck, sudo -s
[08:11] <jman8888> xamox: No..
[08:11] <xamox> wetduck, will give you root
[08:12] <shriphani> jman8888, amarok will take like 80 mb of download on gnome
[08:12] <justthisguy> sudo su <-- easier to remember
[08:12] <orbital04> Hi, anyone handy with Sound Recorder?
[08:12] <DiLupo> anyway, you don't need Qt or GTK to install XMMS
[08:12] <B4L1STA> Can anyone help me install from my USB drive?
[08:12] <justthisguy> DiLupo: true
[08:12] <xamox> yeah, xmms seems more lightweight
[08:12] <SpudDogg> hello all
[08:12] <DiLupo> and if it's just MP3's you want to listen to...
[08:13] <jman8888> How can i convert OOG -> Mp3?
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> jman8888,  i googled one and found a few scripts that doiot.
[08:13] <DiLupo> you prob need OGG tools and codec
[08:13] <wetduck> ok guys thank you!
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> jman8888,  the quality can sort of suck.
[08:13] <justthisguy> jman8888: lame for cli, or gstreamer for something a bit more graphical
[08:13] <jman8888> Dr_Willis: Well i cant play oog's on my mp3 player.
[08:14] <wetduck> !oem
[08:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:14] <xplic1t> I'm trying to run ./configure for php in (/usr/share/php), is this the right place?  i'm not having any luck.
[08:14] <foureight84> is anyone here using conky with compiz?
[08:14] <jman8888> Dr_Willis: Should i rerip my cd's to LAME? (Or lossless or whatever.)
[08:14] <psycose> hi do you have good docs on installing ubuntu on sun blade 150 ? i have not find lot of inforation on google thanks
[08:14] <DiLupo> than stick to MP3, don't convert unless you have to...
[08:14] <justthisguy> Dr_Willis: theres a lot to read up on the lame man page, you can get really good mp3s at low sizes
[08:14] <DiLupo> Every time you convert, you lose a bit of quality
[08:14] <wetduck> !oem overview
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oem overview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <B4L1STA> You'll lose quality going from compressed format to compressed format, so I would rerip.
[08:14] <foureight84> when i have on_window set to no, conky doesn't show up when compiz loads
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> justthisguy,  but the act ofgoing from ogg tomp3 can be the issue
[08:15] <xamox> what is better links or lynx?
[08:15] <foureight84> how do i do a delay boot for conky>
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> jman8888,  that would give the best sound.
[08:15] <Focuz> hi all!
[08:15] <jman8888> DiLupo: Im ok with that. Just how do i.
[08:15] <justthisguy> xamox: elinks
[08:15] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, i tried kde server
[08:15] <B4L1STA> For the love of god, can anyone here help me install from my USB drive?
[08:15] <xamox> justthisguy, alright I installed elinks but seems to be qwirky
[08:15] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, but when i chose scaling, i got connection closed
[08:15] <Grom123> bonsoir !
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  when you chose scaling onthe Palm It loses connection?
[08:16] <miranda82> yes
[08:16] <jman8888> Dr_Willis: Dr_Willis But how do i convert?
[08:16] <DiLupo> B4L1STA> I'm a Pastafarian, don't believe in God's love... What are you trying to install
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> jman8888,  i found a script on google that used the other commands lame and so forth to convert them
[08:16] <grodius> Can someone tell me how to install flash9 for ubuntu
[08:16] <miranda82> grodius, there is no flash 9
[08:16] <jman8888> grodius: Doesnt exist.
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  that sounds like a palm client issue. not a vnc server issue
[08:16] <B4L1STA> I'm trying to install Dapper from my USB thumb drive, but i'm having all sorts of troubles
[08:17] <jman8888> grodius: :(
[08:17] <scarabatwork> i am trying to get postfix running on my ubunt server box.  Wehn i start the serer, i get an error: " fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use".  when i do a netstat, i find that exim4 (a package that does not show to be installed) is using the port.
[08:17] <miranda82> grodius, we're still at 7
[08:17] <matahari> hi
[08:17] <scarabatwork> can anyone give me a clue as to why this is happening?
[08:17] <jman8888> B4 My ubuntus using 10Gigs.
[08:17] <spiekey> hello!
[08:17] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, i'm gonna check the website then..
[08:17] <matahari> i wanted to ask: how can i use scp as root on a ubuntu box?
[08:17] <jman8888> B4L1STA: I thought a thumb drive will work.
[08:17] <DiLupo> B4L1STA> Does the bios of the machine support booting from USB?
[08:17] <spiekey> i can send mails via smtp auth by using ~/.mailrc and ~/.msmtprc
[08:17] <spiekey> can i set this up globally, too?
[08:17] <spiekey> for all outgoing system mails?
[08:18] <B4L1STA> DiLupo, yes it does.  I can boot the Breezy Badger image, but when I follow the same process for Dapper it doesn't work!
[08:18] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how I can change permissions of a Directory all sub-directories and files contained within
[08:18] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: chmod -R
[08:18] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, it a server problem "The server you are using does not support server-side scaling."
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> scarabatwork: well its simple, exim is running :)
[08:19] <xplic1t> where do i run ./configure for php?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  thisis the first id ever heard of 'server side scaleing' then.
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> xplic1t: php is available in repos.
[08:19] <DiLupo> B4> to be honest, Dapper failed on my machine as well... went for Edgy
[08:19] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, lol, there is always a first time 4 everything ;)
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> xplic1t: you don't need to compile it.
[08:19] <xplic1t> right, but i need to ./configure --with-xslt
[08:19] <xamox> if I do a apt-get install fluxbox?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  check out the vnc4server perhaps
[08:19] <scarabatwork> actually... no its isn't.  at least, it doesn't show up anywhere else on my system as running :)
[08:19] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib: e.g. "sudo chmod -r /directory_containing_everything"
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  its a little more tweaked
[08:19] <xamox> how do I run it after its installed?
[08:20] <thenakedcowboy> ok so i downloaded the package (beep media player) how do i install it?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> xamox,  on the gdm screen should be a session entry for it
[08:20] <justthisguy> xamox: man xinit
[08:20] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, apt-getting
[08:20] <xamox> Dr_Willis, no GDM, used Ubuntu server
[08:20] <B4L1STA> dilupo, okay so here's the next part of the problem: when I try installing from Breezy, i get into the installer fine, it finds the ISO on my harddrive, mount it, but then can't access it.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> !info beep-media-player
[08:20] <ubotu> beep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> xplic1t: there is php4-xslt and php5-xsl pick the one for your version, and install it.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> thenakedcowboy,  why not just 'sudo apt-get install' the thing ?
[08:20] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib: is that correct
[08:20] <Rick-uk> Hi - can anyone tell me howto get BBC news / video going - it keeps asking for realplayer but I belive there is a way of getting it to work with mplayer?
[08:21] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: no, that won't do what you want.  capital -R is needed, and you need a permission to set.  So: chmod -R 777 /path/to/foo  for example.  This is usually a bad idea to do and if you do it in the wrong locatino, you can break your box.  What are you chmod'ing that you need sudo?
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> Rick-uk: you need the mplayer browser plugin.
[08:21] <justthisguy> xamox: you need to mofify your xinitrc
[08:21] <DiLupo> brb
[08:21] <xamox> justthisguy, what if I don't want it to start by default?
[08:21] <xplic1t> thank you fyrestrtr, this has taken an embarrassingly long time to resolve
[08:21] <Rick-uk> how do |I get that? sorry - very new to Unix
[08:21] <xamox> justthisguy, isn't there just some startflux or something?
[08:21] <justthisguy> xamox: that depends on the runlevel you boot into
[08:21] <xamox> justthisguy, runlvl 3
[08:22] <thenakedcowboy> Dr. willis: how do i do that? im new at this?
[08:22] <justthisguy> what you put into your xinitrc is exec startfluxbox at the end, iirc
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> last i tried fluxbox - it put a Entry in the GDM session list - if not -  make one for it.
[08:22] <justthisguy> xamox: I think it needs to be runlevel 2 to stay in console automatically
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> thenakedcowboy,  fire up synaptic and search for it or read up on the apt-get system  , sudo apt-get install WHATEVER
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> thenakedcowboy,  and the package name is 'beep-media-player' it seems
[08:23] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib I mounted an external hdd but could only access at the time as root so i used "gksudo nautilus" to get my old windows files(music,pics and the like) although when I copied them to "my" home directory they are still only readable/writable by root
[08:23] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, just got X11 and, again no scaling (connection lost... :S)
[08:23] <xamox> anyone know what apt-get source I need to get fluxbox?
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: you need to chown the files to your user and group, then chmod them to 755
[08:23] <sureshot> hay i followed the !ati on how to install the fglrx driver it says it is using the fglrx driver in the xconf but when i do fglrxinfo it says mesa what am i doing wrong
[08:24] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: err
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> sureshot: are you running xgl?
[08:24] <justthisguy> xamox: should be by default. perhaps universe?
[08:24] <sureshot> it say so but with mesa instad of fglrx
[08:24] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, i will try x11vnc, thx
[08:24] <akemi> how can I get ahold of the dmesg when I'm booting the ubuntu desktop live cd .. it hangs just after attaching to an sda device... and I cant see the whole dmesg
[08:24] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: what is chown and what is the number 755 all baout
[08:24] <Paddy_EIRE> *about
[08:25] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: I see, that's ok then.  Just making sure we weren't going to have another case of a chmod -R on /etc :)
[08:25] <Paddy_EIRE> k, :)
[08:25] <tdn> Which kernel should I install linux-686 or linux-686-smp if I have an IBM Thinkpad with Intel Pentium M?
[08:25] <sureshot> is sys renderer string mesa glx
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  that one is a very odd vncserver. :P
[08:26] <tdn> Is it true that I need SMP support if I want cpu frequency scaling?
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: chown is 'change owner' -- it changes ownership of files. When you copied them as root, they are owned by root (which is why you can't access them as your normal user). chmod is 'change mode' which is akin to changing permissions. 755 are good permissions for the files in your home directory.
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> miranda82,  there may be some vncserver option to enable that feature. checkthe vncserver script perhaps
[08:26] <xamox> justthisguy, ahh thx, I didn't have universe source uncommented in my source list
[08:26] <miranda82> Dr_Willis, yeah, that is what i try... but... no luck... can't find anything
[08:26] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: nice one :)
[08:26] <justthisguy> tdn: depends if you have one or more processors
[08:26] <dyn-afk> tdn the 686 kernel works fine
[08:26] <robert_> tdn: Pentium suxxx0rz
[08:26] <justthisguy> if you have more than one you want the smp
[08:27] <tdn> justthisguy, well.. I don't. But I think that there is something that I will need SMP for... Something that depends on it?
[08:27] <dyn-afk> tdn there's no need for the smp kernel if you want cpu freq. scaling, it does that by default :)
[08:27] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib: is "sudo" still required i take it
[08:27] <tdn> robert_, trolls sucks too, you know.
[08:27] <dyn-afk> :P
[08:27] <akemi> when I boot the live cd .. it gets stuck half way.. how do I get ahold of the entire dmesg file? given that only some of it is visible on my screen?
[08:27] <tdn> dyn-afk, ok. Thanks.
[08:27] <dyn-afk> pentium m is one of the best procs :)
[08:27] <robert_> tdn: indeed :P
[08:27] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: yes, since your files are owned by root
[08:27] <dyn-afk> better then the AMD equivalent though
[08:28] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[08:28] <robert_> tdn: I prefer AMD to Intel
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: yes -- not because your files are owned by root, but because chown can only be run by root :)
[08:28] <justthisguy> akemi: run dmesg | less or use shift+pageup keys
[08:28] <xamox> anyone know if ubuntu has mysql administrator (the GUI version) in it's package list?
[08:28] <wwwdotcom> I was able to get ubuntu loaded on a powerpc, and I was wondering if there were any existing things when the desktop loads that don't need to be loaded and how to disable them
[08:28] <akemi> just .. thanks a bunch :)
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> wwwdotcom,  the default ubuntuinstall is rather slim
[08:28] <ebel> Eh? darcs (a version control tool) is in the universe repository according to: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/devel/darcs, but when I do "sudo aptitude search darcs" nothing is found
[08:29] <justthisguy> xamox: yeah I think its called mysql-admin
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> wwwdotcom,  you could switch to a lighter window manager if you want to really save on cpu/memory
[08:29] <wwwdotcom> Dr, you mean theme?
[08:29] <justthisguy> and theres another program mysqladmin, which is confusing :)
[08:29] <ebel> .. and I have the universe repository added and I've aptitude update-ed.
[08:29] <kurt> Hi
[08:29] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: Is there anything that I could/should add to this "sudo chown /home/patrick/externalhddfiles"
[08:29] <xamox> justthisguy, yeah there is the console version and the GUI version
[08:29] <kurt> can somebody help me with installing my DCP 110 brother printer
[08:30] <dyn-afk> ebel try searching for that darcs package
[08:30] <robert_> bah, I still get "missing package name"
[08:30] <dyn-afk> the name might be slightly different
[08:30] <jmitchj> Could someone help me with the use of the normalize-mp3 command, in order rto convert MP3 to OGG...it seems to require to encoders and decoders...how do i get those?
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: yeah, username and group, as the way you have written is not with proper syntax.
[08:30] <dyn-afk> sudo apt-cache search darcs << try that in a terminal ebel
[08:30] <ebel> dyn-afk, no, I get nothing returned.
[08:30] <xamox> if I just installed ubuntu server, and fluxbox, it's complaining I need Xserver, so do I do an apt-get install Xorg or x11?
[08:30] <wetduck> brb
[08:30] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: how should it look, I have no idea
[08:30] <robert_> "dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `php4-4.4.2/DEBIAN/control' near line 9:missing package name" <-- bah
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: sudo chown -R patrick:patrick /home/patrick/externalhddfiles
[08:31] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[08:31] <ebel> dyn-afk, I assume apt-cache search is the same as aptitude search, right?
[08:31] <justthisguy> jmitchj: youre probably better off googling for a tutorial, but try gstreamer and it's plugins. You can get a nice graphical interface for it too
[08:31] <Rick-uk> OK I have the mplayer plugin .tar.gz - now what do I do?
[08:31] <wwwdotcom> jmitchj, try this program http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
[08:31] <bsdfox> how can I get mencoder to not mess with the resolution at all (it's squishing widescreens into 4:3 full height)
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> Rick-uk: you can get the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:32] <justthisguy> xamox: choose, I think. I think ubuntu uses xorg by default, so you might want to go with that one ( ie better support)
[08:32] <jmitchj> thanks
[08:32] <Rick-uk> thanks - I'll try that then
 dyn-afk, I assume apt-cache search is the same as aptitude search, right? << could be, I don't use aptitude
[08:33] <robert_> blaaaah, how do I compile a debian package from source?
[08:33] <ebel> dyn-afk, Hmm, anyway no luck with apt-cache anyway.
[08:33] <dyn-afk> it's just a command to search throught the apt repository cache, so if aptitude search does the same thing...
[08:33] <justthisguy> robert_: checkinstall
[08:33] <mjo-uk> I have a mysql question: has anyone built a Ubuntu compatible .deb of a mysqld more recent that 5.0.21-3 ?
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> ebel: what are you trying to find?
[08:33] <justthisguy> robert_: make normally, then run it instead of make install
[08:33] <dyn-afk> he is looking for darcs fyrestrtr
[08:33] <wwwdotcom> jm, sorry, doesn't look like ogg is supported
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> !info darcs
[08:33] <ubotu> darcs: an advanced revision control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-3 (dapper), package size 1053 kB, installed size 3280 kB
[08:33] <wwwdotcom> isn't I mean
[08:33] <dyn-afk> he could try subversion (which is called svn mostly) instead of darcs though
[08:33] <ebel> Hang on, looks like there's some trouble updating the universe repo.
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> enable universe, hit apt-get update, then apt-get install darcs
[08:33] <tekuto> i haven't sound on my 6.06lts. who can help? (private)
[08:34] <ebel> MD5sum mismatch.
[08:34] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: is this next and where does the 755 go sry "sudo chmod -r patrick:patrick /home/patrick/externalhddfiles"
[08:34] <dyn-afk> that doesn't work for him fyrestrtr
[08:34] <justthisguy> !info checkinstall >> robert_
[08:34] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: no "sudo chmod -R 755 /home/patrick/externalhddfiles/
[08:35] <Paddy_EIRE> ok, Im a total cli idiot
[08:35] <clusty> hey
[08:35] <clusty> was wondering if any of you guys are using the IFS ext3 driver for windows to read/write to linux partitions
[08:35] <wall0159> hiya. I'm wanting to run a script in cron as root, but it involves pinging a university server so I want to get it right! ;-) I'm planning to run:
[08:35] <wall0159> #sudo crontab -e
[08:35] <wall0159> and adding a line
[08:35] <wall0159> */12 * * * * script.sh
[08:35] <wall0159> which I think will run the script every 12 minutes. Is this right?
[08:36] <clusty> i am getting some weird behaviours sometimes after I write with windows: ubuntu start to check partition for consistancy
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> clusty,  i use that all the time
[08:36] <mjo-uk> wall0159, why does it have to be done as root ?
[08:36] <jmitchj> wwwdotcom: was that Super product for linux?...it seems like it's a windows based product?
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> wall0159: no, its not. [1]  use a pastebin when you are pasting to the channel. [2]  give the full path to the script, make sure its executable.
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> clusty,  if windows crashes the linux partitions are marked as needing tobe checked from what ive sen
[08:37] <wall0159> mjo-uk: I need sudo, because it will call vpnc
[08:37] <clusty> Dr_Willis, any corruption danger there?
[08:37] <dyn-afk> clusty that IFS EXT2 (not 3) drivers works nice, it also works for ext3 beause that simply is ext2 with a journal
[08:37] <wall0159> fyrestrtr: apologies - I don't know about pastebin - I'll check it out.
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> not that ive se
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> seen
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:37] <pwk> Hello
[08:37] <dyn-afk> the driver however does not do anything with the permissions of a file
[08:37] <pwk> anybody her use skype ?
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin > wall0159
[08:38] <dyn-afk> pwk has sound problems with skype ?
[08:38] <clusty> dyn-afk, dont really care about permission. I would really like the driver to update the journaling info
[08:38] <pwk> i can only get it to call in my location, canada
[08:38] <pwk> with free calling
[08:38] <pwk> i thoguht it was free long distance anywhere
[08:38] <dyn-afk> it doesn't do that clusty because it doesn't have journaling support
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> no, only in the US and Canada.
[08:39] <spiekey> is there a mass deployment and patch project?
[08:39] <wall0159> fyrestrtr: but yes.. I'll provide the full path, and ensure that the script has correct permissions.
[08:39] <dyn-afk> it's because ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2 that makes the IFS driver work for ext3
[08:39] <jmitchj> is wwwdotcom still here?
[08:39] <pwk> is there anyother where i can get everyewhere for free ?
[08:39] <spiekey> i dont want to log into 20 boxes via ssh all the time and run upgrade
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> pwk: no, because calls cost money :)
[08:39] <robert_> yo, fyrestrtr
[08:39] <justthisguy> !seen wwwdotcom
[08:39] <ubotu> wwwdotcom is on IRC right now!
[08:39] <tekuto> can someone help with sound? (private)
[08:39] <clusty> dyn-afk, ohhh well. checking 400GB ext2 kinda sux :(
[08:40] <pwk> like call from canada to lebanon ?
[08:40] <dyn-afk> lol @ clusty
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> pwk: yeah, you need to pay for that.
[08:40] <xamox> spiekey, setup each machien to update with cron
[08:40] <unit41> where can I get libasound from ? for 64
[08:40] <pwk> ok
[08:40] <dyn-afk> you can use ext3 checking tools in ubuntu clusty
[08:40] <dyn-afk> why not use those?
[08:40] <pwk> would there be anyother way to commuicate like throyugh the net ?
[08:40] <clusty> dyn-afk, e2fsck?
[08:40] <spiekey> xamox: but then i might miss out upgrade failures and errors
[08:41] <jmitchj> anyone else heard of that erightsoft, Super program?
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> pwk: if the other person has skype, just use computer-to-computer voice chat.
[08:41] <dyn-afk> spiekey wants something like WSUS like windows has but for ubuntu ?
[08:41] <robert_> fyrestrtr: I'm still getting that "missing package name" when I run 'dpkg -b php4-4.4.2'
[08:41] <pwk> Oh
[08:41] <dyn-afk> clusty yes those tools
[08:41] <xamox> spiekey, you could have it e-mail you if it errors out.
[08:41] <spiekey> it should not be automatic, but still be practical.
[08:41] <pwk> how i setup computer to computer vioce chat ?
[08:41] <apecat> hmm, the vmware workstation installer asks me this: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> !info php4
[08:41] <ubotu> php4: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-1build1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[08:41] <apecat> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[08:41] <dyn-afk> hit man e2fsck, there are certain options for the tools so it will check ext3 and not ext2
[08:41] <clusty> dyn-afk, thanx for help
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> robert_: sudo apt-get install php4
[08:41] <apecat> what shoudl i answer, the default location doesn't exist on my ubuntu dapper
[08:41] <dyn-afk> np clusty, good luck :)
[08:42] <dyn-afk> apecat did you install your kernel headers ?
[08:42] <dyn-afk> yuo'll need those
[08:42] <apecat> hm, k
[08:43] <dyn-afk> and you need to install checkinstall too
[08:43] <ladydoor> apecat: you need to install linux-headers-(yourarchtype) (so if you've got x386, do linux-headers-386, for 686 linux-headers-686, for k7 linux-headers-k7, etc.)
[08:43] <apecat> yup
[08:43] <dyn-afk> wiki.ubuntu.com has a nice article about vmware workstation btw
[08:43] <dyn-afk> do a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for vmware
[08:43] <dyn-afk> it'll tell you what you need exactly
[08:44] <apecat> okays, iThankyou
[08:44] <robert_> er, wtf
[08:44] <dyn-afk> yw
[08:44] <robert_> /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 86: syntax error: unexpected end of fil
[08:44] <robert_> /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 86: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[08:44] <dyn-afk> btw, the installation of workstation is almost the same as the one for vmware server
[08:45] <pwk> 952 pepoles wow.. big communirty
[08:46] <dyn-afk> :P
[08:46] <wetduck> I am having problem with sudo. If I type sudo on terminal the following line apears: wetduck is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. Does anybody have an idea about what could be possibly hapening please?
[08:46] <dyn-afk> and that's just ubuntu pwk :P
[08:46] <justthisguy> pwk: and then theres efnet, and all the other servers
[08:46] <pwk> i really want to use linux
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> wetduck: add yourself to the 'admin' group.
[08:46] <dyn-afk> what other users are on your machine wetduck ?
[08:46] <orion2012> wetduck: are you in the admin group?
[08:46] <pwk> i thoughth there was a version of linux that was like windows
[08:46] <wetduck> And besides when I try to run a Share folder command the following line apears: Failed to run shares-admin --add-share=/home/wetduck/Desktop/Shared
[08:46] <wetduck> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[08:47] <justthisguy> pwk: its called winspire or something I think
[08:47] <unit41> whats my root pw ?
[08:47] <wetduck> I don't think I am in admin group.
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> !root > unit41
[08:47] <pwk> is unbuntu the best linux version ?
 i thoughth there was a version of linux that was like windows << that's like saying there is a guy that's like a girl both mentally als physically :X
[08:47] <wetduck> How do I create an admin group?
[08:47] <lincsie> hi! I have problems with the ATI fglrx driver, can anyone help me ? Specifically, I installed the driver, I've the fglrx kernel module loaded and in the Device Section of xorg.conf it uses the "fglrx" driver. However, I do not have direct rendering, the error is "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"". Also note that OpenGL is from libmesa and not from ati.
[08:47] <justthisguy> unit41: sudo passwd. Pick one :)
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> wetduck: its already in the system, just add yourself to it.
[08:47] <orion2012> wetduck: do you have administrative access to the box?
[08:47] <xamox> pwk, best is a personal opinion
[08:47] <pwk> i know, sorry...
[08:47] <dyn-afk> unit41 you don't have a root password, use sudo instead
[08:48] <pwk> Laughing Out Loud
[08:48] <xamox> pwk, it's probably the best for new users
[08:48] <pwk> ok
[08:48] <xamox> pwk, personally I like gentoo the best
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> lincsie: enable the dri module.
[08:48] <xamox> pwk, but it's a bitch to setup
[08:48] <xamox> pwk, I like ubuntu cause i can just install and go
[08:48] <dyn-afk> gentoo is like freebsd but with a linux kernel
[08:48] <wetduck> orion2012, yes.
[08:49] <xamox> gentoo is nice because it's not a fork
[08:49] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: by adding "Load "dri"" in my xorg.conf ?
[08:49] <wetduck> How do I add myself to it?
[08:49] <dyn-afk> xamox technically gentoo is a fork from freebsd
[08:49] <orion2012> wetduck: usermod -G admin -a wetduck
[08:49] <dyn-afk> they really want to be like freebsd but on a linux kernel
[08:49] <xamox> dyn-afk, I don't think so, it uses portage, which is based on freebsd ports
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> lincsie: yes.
[08:49] <justthisguy> lincsie: I think it has to be in the right section, look for the other loads
[08:49] <dyn-afk> it's like NexentaOS (which is opensolaris with ubuntu as userland)
[08:50] <clusty> freebsd is coolest OS i saw so far. slight trouble with hardware support :(
[08:50] <dyn-afk> I think it was on their website xamox
[08:50] <orion2012> wetduck: if you can't sudo though, you'll need root access or someone else in the admin group to add you
[08:50] <dyn-afk> freebsd is nice yes, but not as a desktop os, that's where you want to put ubuntu :P
[08:50] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: It's already there
[08:50] <dyn-afk> wetduck what was the username you entered during the ubuntu installation ?
[08:51] <lincsie> justthisguy: it's loaded, I'll have a look at the Xorg logfile
[08:51] <dyn-afk> you'll want to log in as that account
[08:51] <unit41> im missing libasound where can i get it ?
[08:51] <clusty> well i am afraid that ubuntu will turn into a redhat/fedora thing
[08:51] <unit41> I need lmms to work
[08:51] <justthisguy> clusty: how so?
[08:51] <clusty> all started as just more user friendly linuxes, then they started implemented distro specific soft....
[08:52] <wetduck> orion2012, usermod: unable to lock password file
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> lincsie: add Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection to the file.
[08:52] <clusty> and next step was just having same practices as windows :(
[08:52] <xamox> dyn-afk, actually I just asked in #gentoo, gentoo is linux based
[08:52] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: that's already there as well ..
[08:52] <dyn-afk> clusty ubuntu is just debian but they think they can be more userfriendly and up to date then debian
[08:52] <bXi> dyn-afk: gentoo is not forked from freebsd
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> lincsie: then it should work.
[08:52] <dyn-afk> they also put things back to debian
[08:52] <orion2012> wetduck: like I said, you'll need someone in the admin group to issue that command
[08:52] <wetduck> dyn-afk, Am I afraid the only account set on my Ubuntu is the one I am currently running.
[08:52] <dyn-afk> bXi I know
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> lincsie: are you using xgl?
[08:52] <orion2012> wetduck: what username did you enter when you installed?
[08:52] <dyn-afk> but it somewhat looks like it because gentoo really wants to be like freebsd for the most part
[08:53] <bXi> portage was derived from the ports collection but thats about it
[08:53] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: no
[08:53] <clusty> dyn-afk, actually if you go for testing distro its more ont he cutting eddge :-D
[08:53] <wetduck> orion2012, but I am supposed to be the admin group :oP
[08:53] <dyn-afk> and they do a really good job at that
[08:53] <clusty> my only problem with debian is that it takes me like a week to get all stuff working properly on my laptop
[08:53] <clusty> whereas ubuntu works out of the box
[08:53] <dyn-afk> then you're in trouble wetduck if the current account really is the same one as the install :(
[08:53] <unit41> suse works out of the box too
[08:53] <unit41> most distro's do
[08:53] <godfather> guys g'night
[08:54] <clusty> suse sux hard :(
[08:54] <orion2012> wetduck: try "grep admin /etc/group" and see who _is_ in the admin group
[08:54] <clusty> its bulky as hell
[08:54] <dyn-afk> same here clusty: ubuntu is just easy to use compared to debian, takes less work to get things working
[08:54] <godfather> i have to find the router web configuration tool
[08:54] <wetduck> dyn-afk, I did install as oem account and today I changes to my official acount and that all I have.
[08:54] <godfather> where is it?
[08:54] <dyn-afk> ah
[08:54] <dyn-afk> I think I had that same problem wetduck
[08:54] <unit41> if its so much less work why am I straining to find libasound lib for my lmms install
[08:54] <clusty> dyn-afk, btw is it possible to install debian packages under ubuntu?
[08:54] <dyn-afk> wish I could remember what I did to make it work...
[08:55] <clusty> never tried :)
[08:55] <dyn-afk> clusty that's what the other repositories are for :P
[08:55] <godfather> i have to open some ports
[08:55] <godfather> could anyone help me?
[08:55] <wetduck> orion2012, I got lpadmin:x:106:wetduck
[08:55] <wetduck> admin:x:112:
[08:55] <dyn-afk> if you want a skype version that has working audio you'll want to install version 1.3beta
[08:55] <unit41> point me to a package repo
[08:55] <dyn-afk> 1.3beta is only available for debian and some other distro's
[08:55] <clusty> godfather, by router you mean a linux box or a wireless thingy?
[08:55] <dyn-afk> I installed the debian version and it just works :)
[08:56] <godfather> ilinux box
[08:56] <orion2012> wetduck: and you didn't enable the root account?
[08:56] <godfather> let me expalin
[08:56] <godfather> ia heve to use my webcam with amsn
[08:56] <robert_> blah
[08:56] <orion2012> wetduck: if not, you'll have to booth the livecd to fix it
[08:56] <wetduck> orion2012, Mmmm not sure, how?
[08:56] <godfather> it give me an error massage
[08:56] <orion2012> wetduck: boot*
[08:56] <godfather> it tells that i'm behind a router or firewalled
[08:56] <godfather> so the amsn faq
[08:56] <unit41> would anyone be able to help me find libasound for my lmms install, I really would like to get this working.... is there anykind of package manager that just resolves all the depandancy's for me ?
[08:57] <godfather> invite me to open some ports
[08:57] <clusty> godfather, guess you are not using firewall
[08:57] <wetduck> orion2012, what does that line says?
[08:57] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: I found an error in the Xorg logfile: (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!     (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad)      However, the kernel module is loaded .
[08:57] <x_O> I am getting this error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25219/  while trying to run
[08:57] <marshall> unit41, maybe try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:57] <godfather> clusty
[08:57] <themadscotsman> hello i have a question about Edgy Beta
[08:57] <clusty> godfather, just try to open up in a web browser the ip of your router
[08:57] <marshall> themadscotsman, hmm?
[08:57] <godfather> to be honest i don't know
[08:57] <x_O> Tried running apt-get install -f, and I get this error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25219/ can anyone take a look?
[08:57] <clusty> godfather, your gateway usually
[08:57] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: but lsmod shows me that it is unused ... "fglrx                 407372  0"
[08:58] <klokan> Hi! On my powerbook G4 (TiBook), 550Mhz suspend is not running. Where should I read? Thanks
[08:58] <justthisguy> godfather: its probably easiest actually to install a firewall and use that to open the ports amsn wants :)
[08:58] <godfather> oka router
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> lincsie: rebuild your module.
[08:58] <klokan> (I have dapper)
[08:58] <godfather> ok
[08:58] <unit41> says could not find package
[08:58] <godfather> but how can i open a port?
[08:58] <klokan> Or is there some special group for powerpc?
[08:58] <x_O> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25219/ what does this mean. anyone..
[08:58] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: I installed the module from the ubuntu restricted-modules package
[08:59] <xamox> what is a fast ubuntu mirror?
[08:59] <godfather> i need t find a router web configuration
[08:59] <clusty> justthisguy: but if he has a router that blocks the port its useless to do it from his machine
[08:59] <justthisguy> godfather: depends on the firewall, but most are pretty selfexplanatory
[08:59] <Focuz_> goodbye i 'm going to rome
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> lincsie: re-install it, and make sure you also install your kernel header packages.
[08:59] <themadscotsman> box boots but opens up black screen....if i press any key i get tty1....then i press ctrl+alt+F7 i get log-in screen
[08:59] <ic3mangr> is there an ubuntu full dvd set with all the packages as debian linux have?
[08:59] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: ok, I'll reinstall it
[08:59] <justthisguy> clusty: most routers leave things open by default though, it seems unlikely its that
[08:59] <orion2012> wetduck: boot the livecd, it should automount your hard drive. then you can edit /etc/group by hand and add your username after admin:x:112:
[09:00] <x_O> Anyone smart enough in here to know wtf this crap means : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25219/
[09:00] <manmadha> can any one give the FM links for indian music????
[09:00] <homerh_h> hiya ppl ive upgraded from dapper to edgy ,but its failed x wont start,ive down graded the xorg-xserver-core and im using nv in gmd but i still getting errors of  xauth: creating new authority file /home/linux1/.serverauth.464
[09:00] <homerh_h> x:cannot stat /etc/x!!/x
[09:01] <themadscotsman> how to get log-in screen w/o ctrl+alt+F7
[09:01] <manmadha> can any one give the FM links for indian music????
[09:01] <ic3mangr> is there an ubuntu full dvd set with all the packages as debian linux have?
[09:01] <justthisguy> homerh_h: x seems to break when distupgrading sometimes. Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:01] <unit41> ok new problem... how do I force install a package ?
 how to get log-in screen w/o ctrl+alt+F7 << boot the machine??
[09:01] <sparkleytone> is there a curses-based web browser that can do javascript?
[09:01] <ladydoor> !repeat
[09:01] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:02] <orion2012> sparkleytone: w3m
[09:02] <manmadha> dyn-afk, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:02] <sparkleytone> thx orion2012
[09:02] <sparkleytone> hopefully this will make me sane again
[09:02] <TheLance> hello
[09:02] <ladydoor> sparkleytone: you might like conkeror
[09:02] <justthisguy> manmadha: if you want streamed web music, try out streamtuner
[09:02] <TheLance> can someone please help me and show me how to add a 1440X900 resolution in ubuntu?
[09:02] <ladydoor> sparkleytone: if you're not in console-only...it's a firefox extension that makes it 100% keyboard-driven :-)
[09:02] <gemeindebau> hello all, i do have that annoying jmicron pata chip mainboard problem, with my cd-rom port connected to it. now i happen to have an usb cdrom but that does not work either. i suppose i need to disable the jmicron chip as a boot option, but can anybody please point me to a resource on how-to disable that port before installing? thank you
[09:03] <sparkleytone> i am in console only
 dyn-afk, ctrl+alt+backspace << no that would be a restart for the X server
[09:03] <Blissex> !x
[09:03] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:03] <ladydoor> sparkleytone: oh. well good for you! escape the extra fluff
[09:03] <themadscotsman> hey homerh.....try pressing ctrl+alt+F7....it might give you log-in screen
[09:03] <manmadha> dyn-afk, yaa
[09:03] <justthisguy> TheLance: easiest way is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but you go through some other questions too, defaults are usally fine
[09:03] <ebel> I've fixed my problem from earlier.
[09:03] <orion2012> sparkleytone: it's really basic and bleeding edge JS support, but it might work for you
[09:03] <sparkleytone> ladydoor: exactly...my servers have no business running X11
[09:03] <xamox> what is a fast ubuntu mirror?
[09:04] <ebel> I did a aptitude dist-upgrade, rebooted and now apt can update with no errors and I've installed darcs.
[09:04] <robert_> blah, I can't get php4-cgi to install
[09:04] <sparkleytone> ladydoor: its all due to oracle requiring javascript just to download 10g
[09:04] <ebel> Dunno what it was, but it's fixed now.
[09:04] <justthisguy> xamox: generally I pick the one closest to my country
[09:04] <TheLance> k i'll try it and see how it works
[09:04] <xamox> justthisguy, I tried, it's crawling, 20kbps
[09:04] <ladydoor> sparkleytone: what is oracle, if i may ask?
[09:04] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: ok, it's reinstalled ...
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> lincsie: now reboot.
[09:04] <sparkleytone> dammit...uknown URI
[09:04] <sparkleytone> doesn't work
[09:04] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: ok, see you then .. :)
[09:05] <sparkleytone> ladydoor: oracle 10g is an enterprise database server
[09:05] <xamox> what is the filesize of the latest i386 desktop iso?
[09:05] <TheLance> yeah is there a way i can edit the resolution file?
[09:05] <xamox> I have a local mirror but I think the file is bad, when I try to burn it, it's complaining
[09:05] <TheLance> i forgot where it was?
[09:05] <ladydoor> sparkleytone: aha...no wonder i'd heard of it.
[09:05] <TheLance> i dont want to mess with all these other settings
[09:06] <orion2012> xamox: check the releases page
[09:06] <ladydoor> TheLance: you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[09:06] <xamox> the desktop iso is smaller than the server iso to, should that be?
[09:06] <themadscotsman> homerh you there
[09:06] <TheLance> yeah
[09:06] <orion2012> xamox: checksums are on there
[09:06] <justthisguy> TheLance: what ladydoor said :)
[09:06] <thedash> would there be any easyish way to display any differences between two directories?
[09:06] <TheLance> whats the terminal code to edit it?
[09:06] <sparkleytone> TheLance: res options are at the end...just put them in preferred order under the bitdepth you are using
[09:06] <adam0509> hello ! got a problem installing a deb package : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25220/
[09:06] <sparkleytone> TheLance: use nano
[09:06] <justthisguy> ladydoor: youre away
[09:06] <ladydoor> justthisguy: nu-uh
[09:07] <ladydoor> TheLance: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:07] <justthisguy> I just got an away message from you. strange
[09:07] <sparkleytone> i don't believe imagemagick is a command
[09:07] <orion2012> adam0509: #ubuntu-fr might be better able to help
[09:07] <TheLance> thanks
[09:07] <andriijas> someone told me how to switch default sound card in ubuntu some week ago, i forgot the commando. can anyone give me a hint please?
[09:07] <ladydoor> TheLance: but FIRST do sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[09:07] <unit41> how do you install a deb package from shell ?
[09:07] <themadscotsman> never mind...i'll just use ctrl+alt+F7 to get log-in screen
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> !alsa > andriijas
[09:07] <ladydoor> sparkleytone: no, it's a package that comes with many sub-programs
[09:07] <justthisguy> unit41: thats on your computer or on the net?
[09:07] <orion2012> !dpkg
[09:07] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:07] <ladydoor> unit41: sudo aptitude install packagename
[09:07] <unit41> on my computer
[09:08] <adam0509> orion2012 => no one answers me, seems they can't help me...
[09:08] <sparkleytone> adam0509: you need to run one of the programs...
[09:08] <sparkleytone> adam0509: i answered you
[09:08] <justthisguy> unit41: dpkg -i , but you have to resolv the dependencies manually
[09:08] <ladydoor> unit41: or you can do just sudo aptitude to get an interface. or you can search with apt-cache search packagename
[09:08] <sparkleytone> adam0509: imagemagick itself is not a program, but a package name
[09:08] <adam0509> ah...
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> adam0509: the command you want is 'convert'
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> adam0509: man convert
[09:08] <wetduck> :o)
[09:08] <sparkleytone> yeah convert
[09:09] <sparkleytone> that's right
[09:09] <adam0509> no no, I'm just looking for cool programs for light painting, cause gimp is too heavy
[09:09] <ladydoor> TheLance: diff dir1 dir2
[09:09] <orbital04> jj
[09:09] <adam0509> so, If I understand, in source-forge, you got programs, and you got simple package too ???
[09:09] <thedash> is there a way to compare the contents of two folders?
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> adam0509: sudo apt-get install gpaint
[09:10] <ladydoor> TheLance: ignore that
[09:10] <ladydoor> TheLance: diff dir1 dir2
[09:10] <dyn-afk> how about tuxpaint adam0509 ?
[09:10] <lincsie> fyrestrtr: hmm, still doesn't work, nothing changed ;(
[09:10] <adam0509> fyrestrtr, => no, that crap is not supported till 2002 ;)
[09:10] <ladydoor> TheLance: ignore that too...sorry
[09:10] <adam0509> dyn-afk => tuxpaint is for kid
[09:10] <ladydoor> thedash: diff dir1 dir2
[09:10] <justthisguy> thedash: <ladydoor> TheLance: diff dir1 dir2
[09:10] <dyn-afk> it's easy though adam0509 :P
[09:10] <ladydoor> justthisguy: thank you
[09:10] <justthisguy> np :)
[09:10] <adam0509> I found only two good program : xpaint and XnView
[09:10] <TheLance> how do I save the edits?
[09:10] <ladydoor> justthisguy: i always kind of expect that when i hit tab i'll get the right name
[09:10] <TheLance> im using edgy efy
[09:10] <ladydoor> TheLance: control-o
[09:10] <dyn-afk> you can try a vector graphics drawing tool like sodipodi or inkscape
[09:11] <adam0509> ?
[09:11] <dyn-afk> but I think those are at the same level as the gimp, so maybe not for you adam0509
[09:11] <ladydoor> TheLance: ...why are you using the development release? unless you're already familiar with linux it's a BAD IDEA to use nonstable releases
[09:11] <adam0509> ...
[09:11] <TheLance> yeah i have no idea what im doing
[09:11] <adam0509> Gimp is not only difficult its heavy dyn-afk
[09:11] <TheLance> it was a bad idea to use edgy eft
[09:11] <adam0509> got XFCE with pentium III
[09:11] <ladydoor> justthisguy: and as to the away thing--i forget to put up away messages when i'm gone and forget to take them down when i'm back
[09:12] <TheLance> ok lets try this out
[09:12] <TheLance> brb
[09:12] <justthisguy> ladydoor: hehe yeah I know what you mean :)
[09:12] <dyn-afk> I'm running The GIMP on a celeron 700 MHz with 384 MB of ram..it runs nice, so not heavy
[09:12] <ossie> #xgl
[09:12] <adam0509> Ergh ! 384 MB RAM !
[09:12] <adam0509> got only 192
[09:13] <justthisguy> yeah, rams more inportant than cpu for gimp
[09:13] <dyn-afk> minus some ram because of the onboard video
[09:13] <adam0509> and I'm not only looking programs for me, I'm looking for program for the community :] 
[09:13] <andriijas> is there nobody here that knows the commando to switch default soundcard?
[09:13] <dyn-afk> but 192MB is really tiny nowadays :P
[09:13] <adam0509> I already updated the french wiki aboutt xpaint gpaint and XnView
[09:13] <dyn-afk> how about sodipodi and inkscape ?
[09:14] <justthisguy> andriijas: depends if youre running alsa, oss ,etc
[09:14] <adam0509> 192MB for a pentium III 533 was a good thing in old times ;)
[09:14] <andriijas> justthisguy: alsa
[09:14] <adam0509> inkscape is a vectorial program
[09:14] <andriijas> justthisguy: or ubuntu default
[09:14] <TheLance> thank you all
[09:14] <adam0509> sodipodi ? okay i'm gonna try !
[09:14] <TheLance> it works
[09:14] <dyn-afk> sodipodi is also vector graphics
[09:14] <dyn-afk> there really isn't much else
[09:14] <justthisguy> andriijas: try getting alsa-tools ( or something like that ) and it should have programs to do it for you, I think
[09:14] <Spootnick> hello
[09:14] <Spootnick> what is the url for the hardware requirements for ubuntu
[09:14] <adam0509> :'[[[[[[[[
[09:14] <dyn-afk> and besides, The GIMP is an image manipulation program, not a drawing program
[09:14] <TheLance> yeah i had to reformat after last night too the computer messed up the upgrade for some reason
[09:15] <TheLance> so i had to reformat this morning
[09:15] <dyn-afk> try the release notes Spootnick
[09:15] <TheLance> and install edgy eft
[09:15] <Spootnick> i remember seeing something online that listed all the laptops that ubuntu has been tested on
[09:15] <justthisguy> dyn-afk: its ok for drawing, not like a proper painting program tho
[09:15] <adam0509> dyn-afk => know a program called "photo filtre" for windows ? This one is really perfect !!
[09:15] <dyn-afk> release notes are available at the downloadpage from ubuntu.com
[09:15] <andriijas> justthisguy: i have but i dont remember the commando
[09:15] <dyn-afk> photofiltre is nice for image manipulation yeah
[09:15] <dyn-afk> lot's of pro's use it :)
[09:16] <adam0509> Spootnick,  => hardware requirement : if you're PC got USB port, then go on :)
[09:16] <adam0509> hhh
[09:16] <sparkleytone> ladydoor: any other console based browsers that can do jscript?
[09:16] <adam0509> got contact with the author
[09:16] <adam0509> I try to get devellopement for linux
[09:16] <justthisguy> andriijas: try aptitude info alsa-tools. it should have a description of whats in the package
[09:16] <adam0509> but seems the author want it to keep it closed source, but I understand him...
[09:16] <ladydoor> sparkleytone: not that i know of--sorry.
[09:16] <dopry> just a quick question, is the edgy beta relatively stable?
[09:17] <ladydoor> sparkleytone: i'm not sure whether or not elinks does or not
[09:17] <ladydoor> dopry: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:17] <Spootnick> adam0509 i am looking at installing it on a Toshiba Tecra S1 notebook
[09:17] <dopry> ladydoor, thanks.
[09:17] <adam0509> If I was knowing coding, I could ask him the source and devellop a linux-version
[09:17] <Spootnick> ill priv msg you the specs...tell me what you think
[09:17] <adam0509> Spootnick, => Wich processor ? Ram ?
[09:17] <Spootnick> Toshiba Tecra S1 Centrino 1.6Ghz/ 512MB/ 40GB HDD/ CDRW+DVD/
[09:17] <Spootnick> WL-802.11G/ 15TFT/ XPP
[09:17] <adam0509> k
[09:17] <adam0509> PFFFFF LOWL
[09:18] <adam0509> you get get easyly ubuntu, don't worry guy :D
[09:18] <Spootnick> i am just about to buy that notebook, thats why before i spend the cash for it
[09:18] <adam0509> I'm running on a PIII, see the difference ? ^^
[09:18] <adam0509> wan't to buy it without windows ? ^^
[09:19] <Spootnick> yes without :-)
[09:19] <zlack> hey guys - anyone know of a good OneNote substitude for linux?
[09:19] <adam0509> then, good luck :] 
[09:19] <Spootnick> what do you mean?
[09:19] <dyn-afk> zlack try tomboy notes
[09:19] <adam0509> what you mean by onenote zlack ?
[09:19] <zlack> adam0509: its a ms note application
[09:19] <dyn-afk> there's also a wikiprogram that you can use for things like that
[09:20] <justthisguy> tiddlywiki?
[09:20] <dyn-afk> onenote has support for a tablet but that is something you don't have on ubuntu
[09:20] <adam0509> so, its not like a notepad...?
[09:20] <zlack> dyn-afk: i'll trythe tomboy stuff - thanks!
[09:20] <dyn-afk> well, just tablet support as a mouse, not to write on a screen
[09:20] <justthisguy> ubuntu has tablet support afaik
[09:20] <robbbb> question -> if i have 2 linux pc's - is it possible to 'move' windows from one pc to the other?
[09:20] <dyn-afk> adam0509 no, it's not like notepad
[09:20] <dyn-afk> it's far more then that
[09:20] <zlack> dyn-afk: i just like that note taking idea
[09:20] <adam0509> dyn-afk, => By the way, photo-filtre work with WINE ! But I try to install wine, but it bug at configuration step :/
[09:21] <dyn-afk> it's like a analog notebook: you put al sorts of ideas in it
[09:21] <adam0509> ok
[09:21] <dyn-afk> nice adam0509 :)
[09:21] <homerh_h> no still no joy x-wont start
[09:21] <homerh_h> hiya ppl ive upgraded from dapper to edgy ,but its failed x wont start,ive down graded the xorg-xserver-core and im using nv in gmd but i still getting errors of  xauth: creating new authority file /home/linux1/.serverauth.464
[09:21] <justthisguy> robbbb: I know you can share your mouse and kbrd like that, dont know about windows tho
[09:21] <dyn-afk> zlack if so then you really should try tomboy :P
[09:21] <jsilva> hi
[09:21] <peppo> what is the codename for 6.06?
[09:22] <ladydoor> peppo: dapper drake
[09:22] <zlack> dyn-afk: thanks man
[09:22] <Somniis> hi everyone :-)
[09:22] <robbbb> i mean like in 24 (tv series) where they 'send' windows to another terminal.
[09:22] <dyn-afk> np zlack
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> robbbb,  seen that done with a X program..but its a bit of a hack.
[09:22] <thedash> I am trying to find out the version number of a driver, and I can see a file called /sys/modules/sata_sil/version, but I can't open it or view it or anything?
[09:22] <Somniis> robbbb: it's possible, but it takes a lot more than just "sending" it lol
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> robbbb,  and it takes a little bit of setup
[09:23] <dyn-afk> justthisguy you mean something like synergy?
[09:23] <justthisguy> yup
[09:23] <jsilva> I am trying ubuntu 6.10 and I see that fonts in amsn and others programs look ugly, is it a 6.10 limitation or I forgot something?
[09:23] <dyn-afk> sharing a mouse and keyboard between different machines
[09:23] <robbbb> Dr_Willis: any pointers?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> syngery letrs youcontroll the other pc's mouse/keyboard
[09:23] <dyn-afk> but you still need to hook up a monitor to each one of them
[09:23] <robbbb> yeah but i want to move a window from one to the other
[09:23] <dyn-afk> zlack you can also try "zim desktop wiki" for you note taking
[09:24] <dyn-afk> and you might want to look at something that is called mindmapping
[09:24] <justthisguy> freemind is pretty cool for notes and brainstorms
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> robbbb,  program name is xmove..and you MUST set up the programs specifically be moveable
[09:24] <dyn-afk> freemind is a really nice mindmapping tool but it isn't in the repositories so you need to download it yourself
[09:24] <dyn-afk> they have debian packages though and they work :)
[09:24] <robbbb> xmove eh. i'll take a look
[09:24] <thedash> how do you close out of a 'view' command in console without saving the file?
[09:24] <adam0509> http://pix.nofrag.com/37/bd/895b18b6486abde1b7608c9a096b.html dyn-afk
[09:25] <dyn-afk> there is one other mindmapping tool and it'sthe only one in the repositories, you can try that one as well, just search for mindmap
[09:25] <dyn-afk> lol adam0509, photofiltre looks even better in linux then in windows :P
[09:25] <peppo> what's up with libdvdcss2 in dapper?
[09:25] <dyn-afk> bbl
[09:25] <dyn-afk> need some coffee
[09:25] <jrib> ubotu: tell peppo about dvd
[09:25] <adam0509> yes, but its the studio version by the way so maybe it has so important differences...
[09:25] <dyn-afk> lack of caffeine :P
[09:28] <ladydoor> thedash: what command? less? it's not an editor
[09:29] <adam0509> I run on standard user linux, but in root mode, It bug... could you believe that ? :)
[09:29] <sterni1971> hello just upgraded to edgy. what is the best way to get compiz?
[09:29] <jrib> sterni1971: try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:29] <ladydoor> adam0509: gee, running into problems running as root...who'd have thunk it?
[09:29] <ladydoor> sterni1971: also, #ubuntu+1 is the edgy channel.
[09:29] <justthisguy> !edgy
[09:29] <sterni1971> thanks!
[09:29] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:32] <wetduck> onix2012, I think I am on a rescue mode prompt, could you help me from here on please?
[09:33] <Maniqui> hi. I have installed Ubuntu 6.06. Please, how can I install the graphics acceleration for my Ati X700? (I remember I did it in 5.10, but cant remember how)
[09:33] <wetduck> onix2012, are you there?
[09:33] <SpudDogg> kitche!!!!!
[09:33] <thedash> ladydoor:: I typed "view <file>", and it showed the file content, but now I can't figure out how to exit it
[09:33] <SpudDogg> kitche: are you here?  must not be paying attention again :)
[09:33] <ladydoor> thedash: do this:   :q
[09:34] <ladydoor> thedash: view is actually a vim thing--less is better for just viewing files...and you quit it with q
[09:34] <thedash> ladydoor:: he ":" being an atcual colon or some other key that I don't know?
[09:34] <wetduck> Could someone help me to access the file group to try edit it? I don't remeber the path of it...
[09:34] <ladydoor> thedash: an actual colon
[09:34] <adam0509> ladydoor => my ubuntu is very...experimental ! I change many component (processeur, graphic card) and make many craps in configs files I think... That's why I'm waiting for edgy for making a brand new installation ;)
[09:35] <adam0509> and by the way I'll make a benchmark on my computer :}
[09:35] <kitche> SpudDogg yes?
[09:35] <Zaggynl> anyone tried installing defcon in wine with ubuntu?
[09:35] <adam0509> when It was just installed, Firefox was running on 12" seconds, and now, it takes 20" seconds... will see how it changes :)
[09:36] <ladydoor> adam0509: well, good luck!
[09:36] <adam0509> ubuntu roxx tbh !
[09:36] <wetduck> Could someone check where is the location of the file group please ?
[09:36] <adam0509> I still wanted to get on linux but I was scared :D what a fool I was :D
[09:37] <anto9us> wetduck, /etc/group
[09:37] <wetduck> anto9us, ok thank you!
[09:37] <nodey> anyone here knows a any good bandwith monitor besides bwmon ?
[09:38] <mcphail> wetduck: edit it with vigr
[09:38] <adam0509> could someone believe that in the french wiki, we do not have a homepage for audacity ? :[
[09:38] <UbuntuGuy> How can I run aptitude - s install so that it displays the same results as update-manager?
[09:38] <wetduck> mcphail, what is vigr?
[09:38] <mcphail> wetduck: a relatively safe way to edit /etc/group
[09:39] <wetduck> mcphail, but is it vigr or vi?
[09:39] <mcphail> wetduck: vigr
[09:39] <Arrick> hey, if you want a really good laugh, check this site out
[09:39] <Arrick> http://www.crisscross.com/forum/Worlds_worst_hacker%25_IRC_t%20ranscript/m_422436/tm.htm
[09:40] <gnu2it2> where to find amd64/k8 kernels? or do you have to roll your own?
[09:40] <Arrick> I was given the link in Windows and man is it funnnnyyy
[09:40] <SpComb> a better version of that would be to tell them to hack, say, foo.marttila.de. That resolves to 127.0.0.1 :)
[09:41] <SpComb> real domain names resolving to localhost is something that I see very rarely, I'm sure it would catch quite a few people by surprise
[09:41] <Arrick> isnt that a nice change from the usual SpComb?
[09:45] <JamieBE> When are we likely to see a version of Flash 9.0 for Ubuntu? - I am tired of seeing this "You need blah blah blah to do such and such"...?
[09:45] <houllamuilla> Hello!
[09:46] <kitche> JamieBE: when Flash9 is made for linux
[09:46] <houllamuilla> I need some help please!
[09:46] <JamieBE> Kitche - When is that likely to happen?
[09:46] <Armstrong80> Im trying to install XMMS which ive had before on this computer with a different distro, but under the add/remove program I get an error saying that its not available in any software channel and that it might not support my architecture. Anyone know whats going on?
[09:46] <farchord> JamieBE: I heard they're releasing sometimes in 2007
[09:47] <Zaggynl> when will the new wine be in the ubuntu rep?
[09:47] <JamieBE> Seriously?! - There'll be a flash 10 by then
[09:47] <farchord> JamieBE: lol they just released 9
[09:47] <JamieBE> Zaggynl - there was a release recently.
[09:47] <JamieBE> Farchord - Lies.
[09:47] <farchord> for now, me, I use Firefox with Flash 9 on Wine
[09:48] <houllamuilla> Some help please!
[09:48] <Zaggynl> JamieBE, err how to get version 0.9.22 ? when I try a apt-get install it says I have the latest
[09:48] <ladydoor> !someone
[09:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:48] <ladydoor> !ask
[09:48] <wetduck> how do I know the /etc/group file I am accessing is the one on my harddrive
[09:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:48] <wetduck> +or is it from the boot cd?
[09:49] <JamieBE> Zaggynl - Are you talking about Wine or Flash?
[09:49] <Zaggynl> Wine
[09:49] <JamieBE> That explains it then :)
[09:49] <Zaggynl> :P
[09:49] <ladydoor> !xmms
[09:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:49] <kitche> wetduck: there is usually only one group file unless you use some type of encryption
[09:50] <JamieBE> And why doesn't Ubuntu have native support for PPT file editing?
[09:50] <graveson> i have a chronos dvb box and i am looking for some direction on how to configure this and copy my vhs tapes to mpeg files ?
[09:50] <houllamuilla> Does anyone knows how i can update my sources list? every time i want to apt-get something, it tells me it couldnt found it in E:
[09:50] <Armstrong80> !codecs
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: try installing it in the console. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xmms . if it spits out errors, paste them to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:50] <ladydoor> * http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:51] <Armstrong80> thank you
[09:51] <ladydoor> JamieBE: um...it does. openoffice something-or-other
[09:51] <JamieBE> LadyDoor - Not that I know of - Nothing in Linux will edit a PowerPoint Presentation
[09:51] <farchord> aiite! Let's compile Wine AGAIN!
[09:51] <farchord> lawl
[09:51] <farchord> <3 64 Bit OSes
[09:51] <graveson> i have a chronos dvb box and i am looking for some direction on how to configure this and copy my vhs tapes to mpeg files ? any direction will help please
[09:51] <ladydoor> JamieBE: and the reason that support had to be reverse-engineered is that microsoft refuses to release their formats
[09:52] <ladydoor> JamieBE: open up openoffice impress, create a presentation, and save it as a powerpoint; then come back and argue with me.
[09:52] <ladydoor> JamieBE: or open one up with it, edit it, and save it.
[09:52] <JamieBE> "Impress" you say??
[09:53] <ladydoor> JamieBE: yes. the openoffice slideshow thing.
[09:53] <JamieBE> ladydoor - I am going to take you up on this challenge and then have your babies if you are right.
[09:53] <ladydoor> JamieBE: now, what i'd like is a command-line tool to do that...
[09:53] <ladydoor> JamieBE: LOL
[09:53] <ska1> hi i'm trying to install dapper with single / on xfs and a swap, but the 6.06-1 live cd fails during the formatting, any tips on avoiding this error?
[09:53] <npster> What a heck is SSH key ???
[09:53] <farchord> Hmmm guys, I have a small problem, when i use my multimedia keyboard's volume control, it changes the Bass instead of the volume, anyone knows how to fix that!?
[09:53] <JamieBE> ladydoor - Command line babies - You are leet huh!?
[09:53] <ladydoor> JamieBE: not...quite what i meant
[09:54] <JamieBE> Close enough
[09:54] <ladydoor> JamieBE: i actually meant to edit powerpoints...but whatevs
[09:54] <kitche> npster: it's allows you to ssh into a machine without a password it's very useful if you don't want to enter a password each time you log in to a machine
[09:54] <houllamuilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25226/
[09:54] <npster> kitche can you help me a bit?
[09:54] <JamieBE> ladydoor - Babies/Presentations - Same thing!
[09:55] <_ali>  I have problem with my samba server
[09:55] <ladydoor> JamieBE: totally. babies make less noise though
[09:55] <_ali>  I am not able to make as local master
[09:55] <kitche> npster: yes
[09:55] <_ali> I have tried many things, it used to work easily before!!!!!
[09:55] <npster> kitche I need a ssh key for fedora and I have no idea what to do?
[09:55] <_ali> anybody can help in this topic?
[09:55] <mipstien> im having trouble with my 3d acceleration. direct rendering says it is off and i can't get it to turn on with " sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[09:55] <ladydoor> !ndiswrapper
[09:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:55] <factotum> if i wanted to connect to a shared folder on a mac with os 10.3, would i still use samba for that?
[09:56] <ladydoor> houllamuilla: see ubotu's post
[09:56] <npster> yup
[09:56] <farchord> mipstien: Prolly a kernel update. You might have to repatch yer kernel
[09:56] <JamieBE> ladydoor: I'll be dipped in shi..erbert. That application opened PPT all along! And to think that i was using Java apps with read-only capability. SHOCKING! Thanks ladydoor!!!!
[09:56] <mipstien> farchord: updated to .27 and all modules installed
[09:56] <ladydoor> JamieBE: no problem!
[09:56] <orkid__> mipstien: ubuntuguide.org might be able to help.  make sure you're up to date with 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade'
[09:57] <npster> kitche What should I do so I can get a ssh key for fedora, it says to do this ssh-keygen -t dsa ?
[09:57] <jdahm> by default, does ubuntu have all the ACPI settings enabled?
[09:57] <farchord> mipstien: : at worse, try to reinstall the nvidia drivers
[09:57] <jdahm> Im too lazy to check
[09:57] <JamieBE> ladydoor - Next you are going to tell me that I can compile my VB.NET application for Ubuntu!...... :|
[09:57] <ladydoor> JamieBE: i don't know what that is, sorry
[09:57] <mipstien> farchord: should i uninstall them and reinstall or just reinstall
[09:57] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25227/
[09:58] <kitche> npster: http://sial.org/howto/openssh/publickey-auth/ read that should help you out
[09:58] <JamieBE> ladydoor - You must not use Windows much huh?
[09:58] <adam0509> Got a problem with WINE, I install it, seems okay. I run "winecfg", It begin to create a directory, but then, nothing happens !!!
[09:58] <farchord> mipstien: Just reinstall imo....
[09:58] <houllamuilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25228/
[09:58] <godfather> is there anyone who could help me to install mercury?
[09:58] <ladydoor> JamieBE: i never really used computers a lot before i got this one last summer...and i never really used it much until i installed ubuntu in October of last year.
[09:59] <JamieBE> adam0509: I had same problem i think - Just delete the ~/.wine dir. and run again.
[09:59] <Somniis> Spring!
[09:59] <adam0509> I've already done that :[ :[
[09:59] <adam0509> gona retry...
[09:59] <JamieBE> So you are STARTING with Unix?
[09:59] <Somniis> ladydoor: good choice to start with :-)
[10:00] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: that's very odd, since it's in main...what's your architecture?
[10:00] <JamieBE> ladydoor: I am envious of your innocent, non-Microsoft tainted soul.
[10:00] <adam0509> houllamuilla,  => got universe/multiverse depository ??
[10:00] <ladydoor> JamieBE: lol
[10:00] <ladydoor> Somniis: what do you mean?
[10:00] <Somniis> ladydoor: most people start with Windows
[10:00] <mipstien> farchord: those things do not work
[10:00] <JamieBE> ladydoor: I think he means Unix for a starter. - It all just makes so much more sense than Windows!
[10:01] <mipstien> manually updateing xorg.conf doesn't seem to work either
[10:01] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: just i386
[10:01] <ladydoor> Somniis: oh, check. i mean, i'd had some minimal exposure when i was in high school, but it never really interested me at all.
[10:01] <kitche> Somniis: most people choose windows due to that they have to they only use what's on their computer to start with
[10:01] <Somniis> JamieBE: yes :)
[10:01] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: yeah, it should definitely exist...i don't know why it doesn't
[10:01] <houllamuilla> i dont know. i installed ubuntu about 5 days ago. i know almost nothing about linux
[10:01] <Somniis> kitche: I agree.  I used Windows for 6 years until I installed Ubuntu a few weeks ago :-)
[10:02] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: would there be another channel or place I could check/ask (thank you very much for the help so far)
[10:02] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: this is pretty much it...let me check your pastebin again.
[10:02] <robbbb> anyone know how xmove works?
[10:02] <adam0509> JamieBE, => still It works a little better ! thanks ! gonna try several things !
[10:02] <JamieBE> ladydoor, Somniis: Personally I feel as though Ubuntu has a long way to go in terms of fine tuning, and making everything easier on the users, but it will be the winner in the long run, when people realise they don't have to pay 200 / $400USD a pop for an OS!
[10:02] <Armstrong80> Can anyone recommend a good alternative to xmms?
[10:03] <farchord> I would use Ubuntu everyday, if only my fav game and TV tuner would work in it lol
[10:03] <Brando> what command do I use to find out my ipaddress?
[10:03] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: would you please paste your sources.list to pastebin?
[10:03] <SpudDogg> kitche, still here?
[10:03] <kitche> Brando: do you mean your external ip or your internel ip?
[10:03] <Somniis> JamieBE: I think Ubuntu is meant to be a "starters" OS into Linux.. and gradually get into more advanced distros
[10:03] <JamieBE> adam0509 - No probs. You might wanna try removing and then updating too (if you haven't already :P) :)
[10:03] <Brandonnn> what command do I use to find out my ipaddress?
[10:03] <kitche> SpudDogg: yes I m here
[10:03] <ladydoor> JamieBE: lol...if you ask me, it's TOO user-friendly
[10:03] <robbbb> ifconfig
[10:03] <kitche> Brandonn: ifconfig|grep ip
[10:03] <Brandonnn> ty
[10:03] <Somniis> ladydoor: I agree lol
[10:03] <ladydoor> JamieBE: it's a lot of work to uninstall gnome and all that stuff i never use
[10:03] <SpudDogg> kitche: so now i just 'sudo modprobe rt2570' ?
[10:04] <kitche> yes SpudDogg
[10:04] <JamieBE> You a KDE girl ladydoor?
[10:04] <Somniis> kde.. pfft.
[10:04] <brian98> Hello all!
[10:05] <Somniis> hi brian98
[10:05] <ladydoor> JamieBE: ratpoison, actually. my DE is GNU screen within ratpoison, with firefox-conkeror for webbrowsing, irssi/bitlbee for irc/im, ptyone for music, & emacs for everything else :-)
[10:05] <kitche> npster: did that link help you out any?
[10:05] <npster> yeah
[10:05] <SpudDogg> kitche: working like a charm
[10:05] <JamieBE> ladydoor....ratpoison?
[10:05] <B4L1STA> Can someone help me fix Grub?
[10:05] <Somniis> ladydoor: what is ratpoison? :o\
[10:05] <SpudDogg> kitche: thanks again...you the man
[10:05] <Malachi> I need help. I just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu-desktop, and now OO.org won't work.
[10:06] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: where would I find the source.list file?
[10:06] <Brandonnn> lol ifconfig|grep ip or just ifconfig isnt working. Iam useing dsl it just tells me my local addreses
[10:06] <t9k748> hello
[10:06] <t9k748> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.06
[10:06] <t9k748> but I can't resize the partitions
[10:06] <ladydoor> JamieBE: GNU screen to the power of X--it's a window manager. http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/
[10:06] <kitche> Brandonnn: for that you have to go into your router or go to one of thsoe pages that show your outside ip
[10:06] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:06] <t9k748> because there is no information about the used and unused space
[10:06] <B4L1STA> y9k748, what type of partition is on the partition already? NTFS?
[10:07] <B4L1STA> i mean the hard drive
[10:07] <B4L1STA> :S
[10:07] <t9k748> unable to read the contents of this filesystem
[10:07] <t9k748> FAT32
[10:07] <t9k748> I can't resize the NTFS one too
[10:07] <JamieBE> ladydoor - that looks 31337 to me.
[10:07] <t9k748> it happens with a real  computer and VMWare too :(
[10:07] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[10:07] <B4L1STA> Is there anything important on the fat32 partition?
[10:07] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25232/
[10:07] <brian98> I've just noticed a weird one thats bugging me out... ip traffic to certain address' seems to be really slow. When I say this I mean I can ping an address and it won't time out it will just take about 6 seconds between each ping. I've disable ipv6 played with mtu and also installed pump but still the same. any idears! :0
[10:08] <Brandonnn> kitche: Lol, that is what I was trying to avoid. Is there a way that I can get the command ipconfig on the terminal?
[10:08] <B4L1STA> Because you could just delete the partition and start over...
[10:08] <t9k748> yes, there is
[10:08] <t9k748> all my data
[10:08] <ladydoor> JamieBE: meh. my mouse doesn't work, and it's a lot easier to use than anything else anyway.
[10:08] <B4L1STA> damn...
[10:08] <ladydoor> Brandonnn: ifconfig?
[10:08] <kitche> Brandonnn: ifconfig is the ipconfig in linux
[10:08] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: oh so should I uncomment those lines?
[10:08] <skold> hi i have a problem with hydra http://phpfi.com/53035??lang=c anyone knews how to fix this?
[10:08] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: just a sec...let me show you what to do :-)
[10:08] <_ali> anybody have working smb.conf file for samba configures as local master?
[10:08] <kitche> Brandonnn: you have to log in to the router or go to a page that tells you your ip
[10:08] <Shamurai> hi
[10:08] <espenel> hi
[10:09] <Armstrong80> ;)
[10:09] <POVaddct> ladydoor: the problem with screen-like window managers is that many older X apps still need the mouse
[10:09] <robbbb> anyone know about xmovecrtl?
[10:09] <JamieBE> ladydoor: I will donate a new mouse. Please just promise me that you will never use this GUI, for the love of god woman!
[10:09] <ladydoor> JamieBE: no, actually, i really don't like using mice
[10:09] <Brandonnn> kitche: Ya its the same but ipconfig give me what I want. lol like on Phlack it has ifconfig and ipconfig and ipconfig gives me my wan address.
[10:09] <bart__> let say I upgrade from ubuntu dapper to beta edgy, can I still use the repository " http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/" altough it is not edgy yet?
[10:09] <Somniis> ladydoor: may i ask why not?
[10:09] <ladydoor> POVaddct: also many newer ones. luckily, i don't use them, except for conkeror and sometimes xpdf
[10:09] <t9k748> I have three HDs
[10:09] <ladydoor> Somniis: it's easier and faster to type
[10:10] <JamieBE> ladydoor: There's not liking mice, and there's not liking mice. You my friend have started a virtual jihad against the WIMP UI's here.
[10:10] <t9k748> 1) with FAT32 partitoin
[10:10] <Somniis> ladydoor: well, yes, but it can also be easy to just point and click :-P
[10:10] <B4L1STA> t9k748, are they ide or sata or something else?
[10:10] <Malachi> I need help. I just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu-desktop, and now OO.org won't work.
[10:10] <kitche> Brandonnn: yeah phlak uses a script which they named ipconfig I m trying to find it right now
[10:10] <POVaddct> ladydoor: so why do you use X anyway? you could use a framebuffer console with screen
[10:10] <t9k748> two IDE
[10:10] <t9k748> and a USB LACIE
[10:11] <Somniis> POVaddct: that's what ratpoison basically is, lol
[10:11] <B4L1STA> and the IDE ones are the drives you can't resize?
[10:11] <Brandonnn> kitche: Ya so am I, thanx for trying when or if you find it let me know and if I find it ill let you know.
[10:11] <Malachi> I need help. I just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu-desktop, and now OO.org won't work.
[10:11] <JamieBE> Ladydoor: ratpoison scares me and I would like to go ghome now please.
[10:11] <t9k748> well.... the first IDE has got just a FAT32 partition
[10:11] <POVaddct> Somniis: ah, i like the real screen(1) much better, because you can detach sessions and such things
[10:11] <t9k748> and can't be resized
[10:12] <ladydoor> POVaddct: better text resolution and conkeror/ratpoison :-)
[10:12] <ladydoor> JamieBE: lol
[10:12] <ladydoor> JamieBE: you did ask
[10:12] <POVaddct> ladydoor: hehe
[10:12] <skold> hi i have a problem with hydra http://phpfi.com/53035??lang=c anyone knews how to fix this?
[10:12] <ladydoor> POVaddct: i meant conkeror/firefox
[10:12] <B4L1STA> Does anyone know if Dapper installs a bootloader by default?  I did a default install and it didn't appear to install a bootloader....
[10:12] <ladydoor> POVaddct: it's easier to use than elinks/w3m.
[10:13] <JamieBE> Hey I have a good question - I have an external 200GB USB 2.0 hard disk and It will be used between Ubuntu and Windows machines, what Filesystem would be most appropriate so that both OS's can read and write?
[10:13] <t9k748> yes, GRUB
[10:13] <kitche> B4L1STA: it installs grub
[10:13] <godfather> guys
[10:13] <B4L1STA> JamieBE, fat32
[10:13] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25234/
[10:13] <godfather> i need a programme to chat using web cam
[10:13] <godfather> amsn doesn't work
[10:13] <kitche> JamieBE: fat32 also called vfat in linux
[10:13] <dyn-afk> ekiga will do godfather
[10:13] <godfather> neither kopete
[10:13] <dyn-afk> but that's just sip
[10:13] <dyn-afk> not msn though
[10:14] <godfather> amsn
[10:14] <JamieBE> B4L1STA - People laughed at me last time I said I wanted to use a FAT32 filesystem and then they said "Good luck!"
[10:14] <dyn-afk> for that you have 3 options: amsn, mercury, not using webcam
[10:14] <godfather> gives me an error
[10:14] <POVaddct> ladydoor: i use X with XFCE. as a web browser i use dillo, mozilla and w3m, depending on the situation
[10:14] <B4L1STA> kitche, in that case why does it still go the Windows bootloader and how can I setup Grub without damaging my NTFS partition?
[10:14] <Zaggynl> defcon works on wine!
[10:14] <godfather> it tells me that i'm behind a router or firewall
[10:14] <t9k748> nooow... I understand...
[10:14] <t9k748> it was mounted
[10:14] <dyn-afk> POVaddct is better off with damn small linux perhaps? :P
[10:14] <ladydoor> POVaddct: though quick question:  does ubuntu's framebuffer work this time around? (i.e., could i, say, watch a movie without starting X (i boot to commandline)?)
[10:14] <t9k748> the LACIE ONE
[10:14] <ladydoor> POVaddct: cool
[10:14] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: thank you again
[10:15] <JamieBE> Why "good luck with fat32"?
[10:15] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: no problem! i hope that works for you
[10:15] <godfather> but ekiga doesn't work with the same skype protcol ?
[10:15] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: it seems that the problem was you were only getting the source repositories
[10:15] <POVaddct> dyn-afk: no, damn small linux has no real X server, just kdrive with vesa/fbdev only
[10:15] <dyn-afk> skype is a proprietary protocol
[10:15] <dyn-afk> if you want to use the skype protocol, use skype
[10:15] <racef> hi
[10:15] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: which means that you would've had to manually install it all
[10:15] <npster> I have intel processor what should i download i386 or x86 ?
[10:15] <B4L1STA> JamieBE, windows only really supports a few file systems and Fat32 is the best option... your choices are Fat, Fat16, Fat32 and NTFS.  NTFS is extremely buggy, and next best is FAT32.  There are programs avalaible for windows that would allow you to access files on an ext3 partition, but I don't know if you would be able to write files.
[10:15] <dyn-afk> if you want to use another program, use one that uses sip
[10:15] <racef> NTFS
[10:15] <dyn-afk> a lot more programs support sip then skype
[10:15] <kitche> B4L1STA: well windows can boot from grub sicne windows boot information is actually on the hard drive
[10:16] <POVaddct> dyn-afk: but i have made my own dsl-based rescue cd (36mb, without X)
[10:16] <B4L1STA> kitche: right, so how do I install Grub?
[10:16] <godfather> ekiga uses sip
[10:16] <JamieBE> B4L1STA - Just as well that's what I chose then eh?
[10:16] <Jas-Nix> hello I just installed ubuntu edgy knot-3 and when I boot up the system all I see is a black screen until I get to X, is this by design or should it show a splash screen of some sort ?
[10:16] <godfather> should it work?
[10:16] <B4L1STA> JamieBE - yea :)
[10:16] <dyn-afk> B4L1STA & JamieBE use the IFS driver (www.fs-driver.org) which is the ext2 driver for windows
[10:16] <JamieBE> Thanks all for your help
[10:16] <dyn-afk> it can read and write files on ext2 and ext3 partitions
[10:17] <npster> HuH?
[10:17] <dyn-afk> ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2 and that's why you can use the IFS driver with ext3
[10:17] <ladydoor> JamieBE: edgy is a development release...it's going to be buggy. but who knows; it might be intentional--oh wait, the devs know. ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:17] <godfather> i've just installed mercury
[10:17] <ladydoor> :-)
[10:17] <godfather> but i have some problems with java
[10:17] <B4L1STA> dyn-afk: thanks, i
[10:17] <B4L1STA> i'll check that out
[10:17] <dyn-afk> who doesn't godfather ? :P
[10:17] <dyn-afk> java is a bit of a problem sometimes
[10:18] <godfather> yes
[10:18] <Kyral> tyty
[10:18] <imbrandon> Kyral, now behave
[10:18] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:18] <Kyral> I will I will :P
[10:18] <ajmitch> imbrandon: fat chance of that
[10:18] <kitche> godfather: did you install java since ubuntu uses the gnu version by default
[10:18] <Kyral> remind gnomefreak to set time limits on bans :P
[10:18] <godfather> yes
[10:19] <Malachi> I need help. I just installed kubuntu-desktop over my ubuntu-desktop. Now, Open Office won't work.
[10:19] <godfather> i installed because  i needed of frostwire that uses java
[10:20] <B4L1STA> malachi, have you tried reinstalling it?
[10:20] <godfather> anyone couldhelpme?
[10:20] <Malachi> Yes, but I'm not sure exactly _which_ package to try to reinstall, B4L1STA
[10:20] <godfather> i need to try my webcam
[10:20] <ladydoor> Malachi: "doesn't work," eh? what exactly is the problem? and what error messages does it spit out when you start it in the console?
[10:21] <Malachi> Could not launch menu item
[10:21] <Malachi> Details: Failed to execute child process "openoffice.org-2.0" (No such file or directory)
[10:21] <Kyral> isn't it oowriter now?
[10:21] <ladydoor> Malachi: do this in the terminal:  which oowriter
[10:22] <Malachi> ladydoor: Nothing.
[10:22] <ladydoor> Malachi: ok, sounds like you uninstalled it. look for an openoffice metapackage in synaptic :-)
[10:22] <Malachi> ladydoor: metapackage?
[10:22] <zlack> dyn-afk: hnb is pretty nice as well (and text based :-)
[10:23] <B4L1STA> Does anyone know how I can install Grub?
[10:23] <dyn-afk> hnb is a good alternative for ms onenote zlack ?
[10:23] <Kyral> !grub
[10:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:23] <dyn-afk> grub install I think
[10:23] <ladydoor> Malachi: it'll say something about being a dummy package and will probably have a shorter name than all the rest of them
[10:23] <ladydoor> !openoffice
[10:23] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[10:23] <zlack> dyn-afk: for me it is, this way i can use it even from console based things
[10:23] <ladydoor> Malachi: that's its name...so actually do sudo aptitude install openoffice.org
[10:23] <godfather> guys i have to try my webcam...need a programme...could anyone help me?
[10:24] <Malachi> ladydoor: Tried it before....openoffice.org is already the newest version.
[10:24] <Malachi> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[10:24] <ladydoor> !webcam
[10:24] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:24] <dyn-afk> that's nice zlack :P
[10:24] <ladydoor> godfather: ^^^
[10:24] <godfather> :)
[10:24] <ladydoor> Malachi: oh...weird.
[10:24] <Emask> hi
[10:25] <Emask> does anyone know of any reason why ubuntu might not be able to setup the network via dhcp?
[10:25] <Kyral> Emask: Wireless Lan?
[10:25] <Malachi> ladydoor: Any ideas?
[10:25] <Emask> no ethernet
[10:25] <Emask> 10Mbps
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> guys I have boot from a livecd and just deleted the partitions from a 250gb harddrive(IDE) for some reason the unallocated/unformatted drive is showing as having only 232.88gb of space where is all the rest?? thats quite a bit to be losing
[10:25] <ccureau> Emask: old ISA card?
[10:26] <Emask> nope
[10:26] <Kyral> Emask: nevermind then...
[10:26] <kitche> Emask: maybe dhcp server not up
[10:26] <ladydoor> Malachi: no, sorry...i'm not familiar with kde, so i don't know what it did to openoffice. which particular application do you need?
[10:26] <Emask> this system worked perfectly
[10:26] <dyn-afk> Emask: faulty DHCP server
[10:26] <Emask> puppy linux connects and works fine
[10:26] <Malachi> ladydoor: All of them :(
[10:26] <Emask> thats how im talking to u
[10:26] <segfault_> Paddy_EIRE, thats it do the math it will work out
[10:26] <dyn-afk> like a very very slow DHCP server
[10:26] <ladydoor> Malachi: i mean this instant
[10:26] <Emask> dhcpclient just tells me it can't find a lease
[10:26] <Malachi> ladydoor: Writer.
[10:26] <Emask> no offer
[10:26] <ccureau> Emask: maybe ubu doesn't set up ethernet card correctly?
[10:26] <Paddy_EIRE> segfault_: yikes thats quite a loss
[10:26] <Paddy_EIRE> segfault_: oh well
[10:26] <Emask> why would it suddenly not set it up right?
[10:27] <Emask> eth0 is shown in ifconfig
[10:27] <kitche> Emask: well if it can't find a lease then it probably how the dhcp server is set up
[10:27] <Emask> and /proc/net/dev
[10:27] <segfault_> Paddy_EIRE, blame it on marketing
[10:27] <ladydoor> Malachi: ok, install abiword. it's smaller and faster, and can read ooffice and m$-doc files. that'll let you work while you try to figure out what happened to openoffice.
[10:27] <Emask> puppy linux finds a lease fine
[10:27] <ccureau> Emask: can you set IP address directly?
[10:27] <Emask> ubuntu was seemingly fine until a few days ago
[10:27] <ccureau> that would be my next step
[10:27] <Malachi> ladydoor: Yeah, I've come to that solution. Abi works fine, but I really desire the OO suite.
[10:27] <POVaddct> Emask: maybe on ubuntu your eth0 is not the ethernet card but eth1394 (ethernet over firewire) and the real ethernet card is eth1?
[10:27] <Emask> not really.............. i am at uni......... and the network is huge so i don't know what ips are available
[10:28] <Emask> eth0 is my network card
[10:28] <ladydoor> Malachi: fair enough. try uninstalling that openoffice package i mentioned and then reinstalling it; that might help.
[10:28] <Emask> as i said, this is an issue that has just cropped up out of nowhere
[10:28] <Emask> it was fine until a few days ago
[10:28] <dyn-afk> ladydoor how about reconfiguring it ?
[10:28] <ccureau> Emask: take the IP assigned to you now in puppy and assign it in ubu to test
[10:28] <Emask> ok... i will try that
[10:28] <Emask> thanks
[10:28] <ladydoor> dyn-afk: would that bring all its dependencies back in?
[10:29] <Justy-> hello
[10:29] <Flamekebab> I feel like hurting someone. Not anyone in particular, but just in general
[10:29] <graveson> i have a chronos dvb box and i am looking for some direction on how to configure this and copy my vhs tapes to mpeg files ? any direction will help please
[10:29] <dyn-afk> no idea ladydoor
[10:29] <dyn-afk> it might
[10:29] <Flamekebab> My 6.06.1 (and 6.06) install CDs keep hanging
[10:29] <Justy-> question: does anyone know a program for linux like limewire or ares or emule
[10:29] <Emask> btw ubuntu seems to have added an ipv6 ip to the interface on ifconfig.........
[10:29] <dyn-afk> I don't exactly remember it :(
[10:29] <ladydoor> dyn-afk: i know that that solves a lot of problems, but i don't know that it reinstalls dependencies
[10:29] <joe__> is there any program I can use to talk to MSN Messenger, besides ekiga?
[10:29] <Flamekebab> in the middle of the LiveCD sesh, they just hang
[10:29] <ladydoor> Justy-: amule
[10:29] <dyn-afk> Emask it always does that
[10:29] <ladydoor> Justy-: frostwire
[10:29] <Justy-> ladydoor, lol thanks
[10:29] <Emask> it looked like it added more than one tho
[10:29] <dyn-afk> it supports IPv6 right out of the box, just as Windows Vista will
[10:29] <Flamekebab> any suggestions regarding this?
[10:29] <ladydoor> joe__: bitlbee, amsn, gaim, centericq
[10:29] <Justy-> ladydoor, which one of them do you suggest
[10:29] <joe__> joe__, sorry, is there any program i can use to do video conferencing, like with a windows user in msn, not ekiga?
[10:30] <ladydoor> Justy-: i've never used either
[10:30] <ccureau> I just did a dist-upgrade from debian to ubuntu on a box, and now the root filesystem isn't mounting right...it tried to mount as xfs.  I can mount it manually and then exit from busybox, and the sytem starts...any ideas?
[10:30] <Emask> anyway i will try with the ip i have atm
[10:30] <ladydoor> Justy-: also,  my preferences tend to be unpopular among ubuntu users when it comes to software
[10:30] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: its working perfectly, people like you will make the ubuntu project work. Thanks.
[10:30] <dyn-afk> lol @ ladydoor :P
[10:30] <ladydoor> Armstrong80: awwwww...thanks! i'm not really part of the project, but thank you!
[10:31] <Armstrong80> ladydoor: You were today.
[10:31] <ladydoor> :-)...glad to help
[10:31] <amonkey> how can i figure out which /dev/hd* are hds?
[10:31] <dyn-afk> joe__ ekiga uses sip, sip is an open standard for voip and such, it'll work on most clients for different operatingsystems ranging from ubuntu to winxp
[10:32] <ladydoor> amonkey: do you mean what the names of your harddrives are? what do you mean by that?
[10:32] <ladydoor> ccureau: check your /etc/fstab to make sure it doesn't think it's xfs
[10:32] <bitninja707> has anyone had the most recent update cause a loss of all databases in mysql?
[10:32] <Flamekebab> no one able to suggest why my LiveCD randomly hangs?
[10:32] <ladydoor> ccureau: so less /etc/fstab, look at the filesystem type of your /
[10:32] <amonkey> ladydoor, i have a few cd drives and i was wondering how to figure out which ones are actually attached to something
[10:32] <dyn-afk> amonkey wants to see which /dev/hd* is a hd and which is an optical drive ?
[10:33] <amonkey> dyn-afk, yeah
[10:33] <dyn-afk> it somewhat depends on the IDE channel
[10:33] <ladydoor> amonkey: ok...one thing you might do, if they do mount, is to check fstab. less /etc/fstab
[10:33] <dyn-afk> the first hd is hda, the second hdb, etc.
[10:33] <ladydoor> amonkey: that could possibly show you which ones mount where
[10:33] <amonkey> ladydoor, they aren't in fstab our they'd be mounted
[10:33] <dyn-afk> the simplest solution is to start the disk tool in ubuntu
[10:33] <bitninja707> when i rebooted this morning after apt update ALL my databases were gone, including the one which lists users and permissions
[10:33] <dyn-afk> which is in System > Administration > Disks
[10:34] <ccureau> ladydoor: /etc/fstab is fine
[10:34] <amonkey> dyn-afk, perfect, thanks
[10:34] <dyn-afk> you can also try the device manager in that same menu (System > Administration)
[10:34] <DigitalNinja> I've got a LVM system using LILO and when it boots all I get is L99999999. What's going on here?
[10:35] <ladydoor> amonkey: well, i didn't know they weren't. i'm sorry. try inserting a disc in one of them and checking dmesg | tail; or maybe you could do sudo fdisk -l hd? for each harddrive
[10:35] <dyn-afk> do you have a /boot that isn't on the LVM  DigitalNinja ?
[10:35] <ladydoor> ccureau: so it's got the right filesystem type? :-( i've got no idea in that case
[10:35] <ccureau> ladydoor: yes, it's ext3 in there...puzzling
[10:35] <DigitalNinja> dyn-afk: No!
[10:35] <dofus> tjena!!!
[10:35] <ClayG> hey, anyone remember where the "log in as new user" or different user is located in the gnome menu<s>
[10:35] <ClayG> ?
[10:36] <DigitalNinja> dyn-afk: lilo will boot the system.
[10:36] <dyn-afk> then that's why it doesn't work DigitalNinja
[10:36] <dyn-afk> you need a /boot which is outside the LVM
[10:36] <ladydoor> ccureau: weeeeeeeird...ok, check /boot/grub/menu.lst and see whether there's some weird option in the parameters for the kernel you're using
[10:36] <dyn-afk> even if you use lilo
[10:36] <dyn-afk> I ran into the same problem
[10:36] <DigitalNinja> dyn-afk: Well, I've go another system with /boot on the lvm and it works fine.
[10:36] <bitninja707> hmm...anyone know where to look for lost mysql databases?
[10:36] <dyn-afk> I'musing a /boot and swap outside the LVM setup and I can use GRUB
[10:36] <dyn-afk> the machine is now booting and running perfectly
[10:36] <kupesoft> is there a repo which installs the latest version of php?
[10:36] <ccureau> ladydoor: I copied it from a working ubu system...
[10:37] <VonGuard> hello, i'm wondering where the gnome network manager drop down menu lives
[10:37] <dyn-afk> the problem is that Linux is not able to boot from LVM
[10:37] <dyn-afk> the same goes for softRAID
[10:37] <lincsie> hi, I would like to have AGP support (I've a nvidia nforce3 chipset). unfortunately, there seems to be no driver for it. any help ?
[10:37] <ladydoor> ccureau: :-(...good luck
[10:37] <ccureau> ladydoor: thanks. :)
[10:37] <bitninja707> VonGuard:  System > Administration
[10:37] <VonGuard> thanks
[10:38] <ladydoor> ccureau: well, no problem
[10:38] <VonGuard> oh wait
[10:38] <VonGuard> no
[10:38] <cafuego> dyn-afk: Linux boots fine of software, as long as you use the (better) in-kernel md driver.
[10:38] <dyn-afk> try comparing the working machine with the not-working machine DigitalNinja
[10:38] <DigitalNinja> dyn-afk: I did the install from the server CD.
[10:38] <VonGuard> bitninja707, i'm looking for that new network menu
[10:38] <dyn-afk> uhm, true cafuego I forgot that :P
[10:38] <VonGuard> the one that can see wireless access points
[10:38] <DigitalNinja> dyn-afk: How do I get into the broken one?
[10:38] <dyn-afk> you don't, normally you'd use the livecd
[10:38] <VonGuard> i had it in my gnome bar, but i removed it because it seemed broken. now i want to put it back in the menu, and i've no idea where the app lives
[10:38] <dyn-afk> but it doesn't recognize LVM like most things don't
[10:39] <dyn-afk> so LVM is not such a good idea to use
[10:39] <bitninja707> VonGuard:  not sure...im looking for it now...along with all my sql databases which have disappeared
[10:39] <dyn-afk> VonGuard try rightclicking on the panel
[10:39] <VonGuard> i did
[10:39] <kitche> Brandonnn did you find that script?
[10:39] <dyn-afk> and choose "add to panel..."
[10:39] <DigitalNinja> I'll give the CD a try in my working system
[10:39] <VonGuard> have you checked in whatever file the mysql.conf would be?
[10:40] <dyn-afk> it probably is an applet
[10:40] <VonGuard> dyn-afk, I know how to add applets
[10:40] <Justy-> hi
[10:40] <VonGuard> dyn-afk, i'm seeking to find a particular applet
[10:40] <VonGuard> that has gone missing
[10:40] <dyn-afk> you can also try running it with alt-f2
[10:40] <dyn-afk> the network applet VonGuard ?
[10:40] <VonGuard> hmmm
[10:40] <VonGuard> yeah, but not the standard one
[10:40] <VonGuard> that newfangled one automatix installs
[10:41] <Justy-> question: i am behind of a router which has firewall, do i need a firewall for ubuntu too? like firestarter
[10:41] <VonGuard> i think it's called the gnome network manager
[10:41] <VonGuard> or something like that
[10:41] <dyn-afk> I think it was something like nm-applet you had to start using alt-f2
[10:41] <VonGuard> hmmm
[10:41] <VonGuard> yay!
[10:41] <dyn-afk> NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2 << that one
[10:41] <VonGuard> dyn-afk, ++
[10:41] <VonGuard> got it
[10:41] <VonGuard> thanks
[10:42] <dyn-afk> I'm using that one too :P
[10:42] <mati1> Can anyone help me get firewire going plz?
[10:42] <dyn-afk> great applet
[10:42] <bitninja707> dyn-afk:  you know anything about disapearing mysql databases?
[10:42] <VonGuard> well
[10:42] <VonGuard> it kinda is
[10:42] <dyn-afk> but it isn't in the applets list so you have to start it manually with alt-f2
[10:42] <VonGuard> it doesn't play well with my wireless stuff
[10:42] <j3ckyl> Anyone know how to disable PCMCIA as a boot option? I have tried NOPCMCIA=yes and pcmcia=off
[10:42] <VonGuard> i am still having wireless issues, particularly with wpa
[10:42] <dyn-afk> I'm  not that good at mysql bitninja707
[10:43] <kitche> VonGuard: ok make sure that you have wpa_supplicant installed first
[10:43] <dyn-afk> VonGuard did you install the wpa supplicant?
[10:43] <VonGuard> nope
[10:43] <VonGuard> lemme go do that
[10:43] <dyn-afk> you definitely need that one :P
[10:44] <dyn-afk> dunno if that one also does wpa2 though
[10:44] <VonGuard> oop, already installed
[10:44] <dyn-afk> !wpa
[10:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:44] <farchord> Windows Product Activation!?
[10:44] <farchord> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! ^
[10:44] <kitche> ok VonGuard just wanted to check you probably have to configure wpa correctly
[10:44] <dyn-afk> try the link from ubotu VonGuard
[10:44] <La_PaRCa-WoRK> Hey guys. I need some help. I have a series of text lines and I need to extract _only_ the portions that conform to a regexp. What would be the best way to achieve that?
[10:44] <VonGuard> ok, thanks
[10:44] <segfault_> La_PaRCa-WoRK, perl
[10:45] <dyn-afk> nope, WPA: security protocol for wifi
[10:45] <farchord> I know ^^
[10:45] <farchord> was jk
[10:45] <dyn-afk> :P
[10:45] <treitter> in a regular Dapper system, are all the files in /dev generated on boot?
[10:45] <Kyral> yah..its udev
[10:45] <La_PaRCa-WoRK> segfault_: dont have time to learn it right now. Is it doable with any combination of awk/grep/sed or similars?
[10:45] <segfault_> treitter, yes its udev
[10:45] <Kyral> heck they are generated on the fly
[10:45] <dyn-afk> La_PaRCa-WoRK try using awk for the text filtering
[10:45] <segfault_> La_PaRCa-WoRK, of course
[10:46] <treitter> Kyral: thanks. Just checking - I remember a few years ago, some of the files were still permanent
[10:46] <treitter> wasn't sure if we'd gotten past that yet
[10:46] <sagarp> the edgy beta1 installer doesnt see one of my hard drives, the one i want to install to...it's a regular ATA hard drive, nto sata
[10:46] <La_PaRCa-WoRK> dyn-afk: example? I am a little at a loss here because this doesnt have any obvious separators
[10:46] <ladydoor> j3ckyl: you might try just noacpi, without the "=yes"
[10:46] <dyn-afk> man awk and search for other awk resources on the internet :P
[10:46] <dyn-afk> awk has many options
[10:46] <dyn-afk> but it's easier then learning perl I think
[10:47] <ClayG> hey, anyone remember where the "log in as new user" or different user is located in the gnome menu<s>
[10:47] <dyn-afk> hit the shutdown button in ubuntu ClayG
[10:47] <matt00> sorry i use kde
[10:47] <ladydoor> ClayG: what exactly are you trying to do? run a single program as a different user?
[10:47] <dyn-afk> then choose the option to switch user
[10:47] <La_PaRCa-WoRK> dyn-afk:  I know. will the index() function on awk accept regexps?
[10:48] <dyn-afk> I have no idea La_PaRCa-WoRK
[10:48] <ladydoor> j3ckyl: you might try noacip, without the "=yes"
[10:48] <SpudDogg> 27 minutes to crack my 128-bit WEP network...good or bad?
[10:48] <ClayG> dyn-afk, that works, but im looking to find the direct command
[10:48] <dyn-afk> it's just awk then the options
[10:48] <ClayG> ladydoor, im trying to log in as a different user then when i logout be back in my normal user
[10:48] <dyn-afk> but it's best to put those options in a seperate file
[10:48] <ClayG> i have a girlfreind with prying eyes, i want to create a new user and have everything that might be considered "bad" under that name
[10:48] <dyn-afk> then use "awk -f filewithoptions" as the command
[10:49] <ladydoor> ClayG: ok, i'm not really sure how that works in anything other than a terminal. sorry
[10:49] <j3ckyl> Anyone  know how to disable PCMCIA as a boot option?
[10:49] <ClayG> so if i forget to clear my cache and goto work, i dont have to worry abotu her looking at my web history and seeing craigslisting, lols
[10:49] <ClayG> or pictures
[10:49] <Harksaw> hmmm, I have no trouble playing mp3s, but I can't burn them to a CD in serpentine (it says "Unsupported file type, If you're having problems opening certain files make sure you have the GStreamer plugins needed to decode them.")
[10:49] <ladydoor> ClayG: oh really.
[10:49] <SpudDogg> everyone:  it took me 27 minutes to crack my 128-bit WEP network...good or bad?
[10:49] <dyn-afk> ClayG there is such an option in the menu
[10:49] <_incubus_> is there anyone who could explain me how do download torrents via teminal?
[10:49] <dyn-afk> but you need to display it first
[10:49] <ClayG> not like that but if someone responds to myspace, she sees it and thinks im doing bad stuff
[10:49] <kitche> ClayG: just encrypt your hard drive if you are really worried
[10:49] <ClayG> dyn-afk, where is it
[10:49] <ladydoor> _incubus_: with what command? bittornado? rtorrent?
[10:49] <dyn-afk> you need to rightclick on the top menu "applications..." and choose "edit menus"
[10:49] <_incubus_> rtorrent
[10:50] <dyn-afk> then choose "System Tools"
[10:50] <ladydoor> _incubus_: ah. sorry, i've got nothing.
[10:50] <kitche> SpudDogg: not really since it sends vis of the key every 5 minutes or so each time it sends a different bit
[10:50] <dyn-afk> then mark the option "Run as a different user"
[10:50] <ClayG> dyn-afk, awsome
[10:50] <ClayG> this is exactly what i need
[10:50] <La_PaRCa-WoRK> dyn-afk: for the record: index() doesnt support regexps but match does
[10:50] <dyn-afk> when you want to run a program as a different user then select that option in the menu
[10:50] <ClayG> looks like there are a few new user options here
[10:50] <ladydoor> ClayG: yeah, now you can deceive your girlfriend with impunity
[10:50] <ClayG> i want a whole new session
[10:50] <dyn-afk> you need to put in the username and the program
[10:51] <ClayG> good
[10:51] <SpudDogg> kitche:  in those 27 minutes i was injecting also...got about 500,000 ivs before the key could be recoverd
[10:51] <ladydoor> ClayG: be proud.
[10:51] <_incubus_> but i could go for bittorrent if you know that one. i just installes rtorrent, no stress installing other one
[10:51] <dyn-afk> which is also very useful if you want to run something as root
[10:51] <ClayG> i will, talking to you on here is "deciet"
[10:51] <ClayG> any female name, so that will come in handy
[10:51] <dyn-afk> you can not only do it on the commandline but also in GNOME :)
[10:51] <ladydoor> ClayG: maybe if i were hitting on you.
[10:51] <dyn-afk> La_PaRCa-WoRK I have no idea what index() is actually :P
[10:52] <ClayG> no, just having a female name would bring a few hours of questions, not even you talking to me, just seeing it in the room list woiuld bring "who is that, why do you like "chatrooms"
[10:52] <dyn-afk> but ClayG you can also use the different workspaces
[10:52] <ladydoor> _incubus_: well, bittornado's easy...you just cd to the torrent dir and do btdownloadcurses.bittornado filename.torrent. or you can do btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado . to launch a whole dirful
[10:52] <dyn-afk> just switch workspace :)
[10:52] <ClayG> dyn-afk, but that still is using the same instance of firefox or whatever
[10:52] <jvai> oo man! i'm in a cyber cafe' this guy just asked me what windowblinds skin i was using, & how he could get xp like mine.. i laughed on the inside
[10:52] <ClayG> if she types in msn.com and hits m and myspace.com comes up
[10:52] <ladydoor> _incubus_: (with the actual--that wasn't a typo)
[10:52] <ClayG> i get in trouble
[10:53] <dyn-afk> ROFL @ jvai now that's a good one !
[10:53] <jvai> lol
[10:53] <ladydoor> jvai: what's windowblinds?
[10:53] <ClayG> if she looks on my desktop and sees a picture of a female freind and i was dumb enough not to erase it, i get in trouble
[10:53] <gnomefreak> ClayG: in firefox choose clear settings everytime firefox closes
[10:53] <dyn-afk> ClayG try setting up firefox to erase your browser history at exit
[10:53] <ClayG> i normally do
[10:53] <kitche> jvai: just say your using linux then he'll go away
[10:53] <dyn-afk> that also helps :P
[10:53] <_incubus_> ladydoor: tnx, i'll look into that
[10:53] <ladydoor> _incubus_: and *i'll* look into rtorrent :-)
[10:54] <jvai> windowblinds is a skinnable theme for windows
[10:54] <ClayG> either way if i have a user besides mine, that will suffice
[10:54] <piratepenguin> that people actually shell out money for..
[10:54] <jvai> i hear ya @ kitche
[10:54] <dyn-afk> windowblinds is not a theme, it's a theme engine
[10:54] <ClayG> i know if im logged in she can do whatever she wqants
[10:54] <dyn-afk> log your workstation ClayG
[10:54] <dyn-afk> setup an account just for her
[10:54] <ClayG> but she doesn't know (i think) how to find stuff, thougb with ubuntu it woudlnt be hard to hit places then back one directory up and see another username in the /home dir
[10:54] <dyn-afk> and use the userswitching
[10:55] <ClayG> have to .things
[10:55] <dyn-afk> hmmz, there is an option to create an account without a homedir
[10:55] <ClayG> or a diff one
[10:55] <dyn-afk> hell, even without a shell :P
[10:55] <ClayG> i think
[10:55] <jvai> good corection Dyn, cause u cant skin windows
[10:55] <kitche> yeah just don't give the user a /home but you can put home directories anyplace if you wish
[10:55] <_incubus_> %y test
[10:55] <dyn-afk> but that might be a problem if you want to start a programm though
[10:55] <mikey> I installed java 5.0 but frostwqire keeps telling me that I need jre 1.4.2 or better. How can I switch the platform?
[10:56] <dyn-afk> jvai you can skin windows
[10:56] <dyn-afk> but it's very very basic
[10:56] <ClayG> if you create another user, give him/her admin powers
[10:56] <jvai> overlay it
[10:56] <ladydoor> dyn-afk: there is an option to create it without a home dir
[10:56] <Dr_willis> !java
[10:56] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:56] <ClayG> can you remove them from your original account
[10:56] <ClayG> ?
[10:56] <ladydoor> dyn-afk: check the adduser manual...just a sec
[10:56] <kitche> mikey: well java 5.0 doesn't exist
[10:56] <dyn-afk> it's more like choosing different colors en lettertypes
[10:56] <dyn-afk> *and
[10:56] <Dr_willis> mikey,  you need to 'update your alternatives' like that url mentons
[10:56] <dyn-afk> I know ladydoor
[10:56] <dyn-afk> the graphical one in ubuntu can do the same
[10:57] <ladydoor> dyn-afk: oh! i thought you were asking. and i prefer not to give graphical instructions, as it's confusing to be all like "click here...no, there!"
[10:57] <ladydoor> :-/
[10:57] <jvai> is Eft stable now?
[10:57] <ladydoor> jvai: nope! it's beta
[10:57] <dyn-afk> the graphical one is a nice tool, you can actually set different permissions
[10:57] <mikey> Dr_willis: which url?
[10:57] <dyn-afk> I know ladydoor
[10:57] <jvai> snap.
[10:57] <dyn-afk> commandline stuff is easier to explain
[10:57] <dv_> hell no
[10:57] <Dr_willis> mikey,  the !java one
[10:58] <Dr_willis> !java
[10:58] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:58] <kronoz> relativly stable :p
[10:58] <joe__> is there any program i can use to do video conferencing, like with a windows user in msn, not ekiga?
[10:58] <ClayG> dyn-afk, the new user login says it only works from the console, is this not xdmcp'able? is that what it is saying?
[10:58] <dv_> joe__, vlc?
[10:59] <dv_> I mean, VideoLAN is for video transmissions actually
[10:59] <joe__> i was thinking more chat software
[10:59] <dyn-afk> the new user login?
[11:00] <green_earz> joe__:   gnomemeeting   may be what you are looking for
[11:01] <E-mask> hi
[11:01] <ravenous> i have a dell laptop with intel graphics, using the laptop screen plus tv out to a crt, the laptop is widescreen though, anyway to set a different resolution for the crt monitor on the tvout?
[11:01] <dyn-afk> lol @ green_earz
[11:01] <[GuS] > Ekiga
[11:01] <E-mask> depends on driver?
[11:01] <dyn-afk> gnomemeeting is nowcalled ekiga :P
[11:01] <[GuS] > yeah...
[11:01] <joe__> green_earz, that is ekiga: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEkiga&ei=kokdRbjdCISe-gGq-Iz7Cw&sig=__oa1f82LEBVZ_Kyc980c3E-sN3z0=&sig2=_8vXs94hf1juW4HXA40UiQ
[11:01] <dyn-afk> but it is a good webcam/chat application
[11:01] <dyn-afk> not to mention voip
[11:01] <[GuS] > update yours DB please :P
[11:02] <thnee> what do i have to do to get wlan working on a macbook?
[11:03] <E-mask> hi
[11:03] <kropa> hello is ther any body from poland
[11:03] <thnee> madwifi and new_wlan_scan_sta is already in
[11:03] <E-mask> i managed to get online on ubuntu again
[11:03] <E-mask> using the suggestion - to use the ip address and gateway that puppy linux found via dhcp
[11:04] <lebafar> I tryed to edit group file with vigr but I got a 'shell return 127'
[11:04] <kropa> a have problem with instal my printer
[11:04] <lebafar> And a 'shell return 102'
[11:04] <kropa> is there anybody who can help me
[11:04] <kropa> ?
[11:04] <segfault_> !ask
[11:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:05] <lebafar> It says '/proc must be mounted'
[11:05] <E-mask> any ideas why dhcp on ubuntu won't work when it works perfectly on puppy?
[11:05] <E-mask> same host
[11:05] <E-mask> same pc
[11:05] <E-mask> worked perfectly before
[11:05] <robbbb> anyone got any tutorials on enlightened-gnome?
[11:05] <kropa> ok
[11:05] <segfault_> lebafar, type mount in console and make sure u have proc maounted
[11:06] <kropa> ok wic mam was gboko
[11:06] <kropa> za t wasza pomoc
[11:06] <robbbb> i want the enlightenment background to take preference over the gnome background
[11:06] <lebafar> And 'To mount /proc at boot you need an /etc/fstab line like: /proc /proc proc defaults In the meantime
[11:06] <kropa> szkoda e ubuntu nie jest w caoci przetumaczone na polski
[11:06] <E-mask> any ideas?
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !po
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> err i think thats off
[11:07] <lebafar> segfault, It says /proc is a directory
[11:07] <lebafar> I will change my nick!
[11:07] <E-mask> there must be a reason why dhcp has stopped working on my ubuntu install?
 what do i have to do to get wlan working on a macbook? << an awful lot since Apple keeps the Airport Express specs closed
[11:07] <dyn-afk> it refuses to tell the open source community anything about them
[11:07] <segfault_> lebafar, after typing mount u should see a line like this in the output proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[11:07] <robbbb> anyone know how to change the font color in gnome-panel?
[11:07] <wetduck> segfault, did you got that?
[11:08] <segfault_> wetduck, yea
[11:08] <dyn-afk> so to put it simply thnee: get something like a wifi usb stick if you want wifi in ubuntu on a mac
[11:08] <segfault_> wetduck, , after typing mount u should see a line like this in the output proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[11:08] <dyn-afk> the airport extreme card doesn't work
[11:08] <wetduck> segfault, I got sh: /proc: is a directory
[11:08] <dyn-afk> the old airport (802.11b) card does work in linux though
[11:08] <segfault_> wetduck, what did type in consoe?
[11:09] <wetduck> segfault, mount proc
[11:09] <segfault_> wetduck, no just type mount
[11:09] <spire_> I try to configure cups through the web interface. But it ask for a username/password for CUPS. What are these / how do I set them?
[11:09] <wetduck> segfault, ok, now there is a list...
[11:09] <segfault_> spire_, this is a known issue with ubuntu cups check the forums
[11:10] <wetduck> segfault, proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[11:10] <wetduck> segfault, what is proc?
[11:10] <TiG4> !flash9
[11:10] <TiG4> !flash
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:11] <segfault_> wetduck, i missed the beginning of ur questions what were u doing to get this error?
[11:11] <dyn-afk> TiG4 there is only Flash 7 for Linux
[11:11] <TiG4> ugh
[11:11] <dyn-afk> Adobe/macromedia refuses to update flash
[11:11] <kitche> proc is a filesystem where the kernel keeps all of it's runtime wetduck
[11:11] <LiraNuna> cause they suck
[11:11] <TiG4> i thought I read somewhere on uf that someone got 9 working
[11:11] <dyn-afk> they say they are working on it
[11:11] <kitche> dyn-afk: umm they are updating flash
[11:11] <dyn-afk> I know
[11:11] <wetduck> segfault, I want to insert my name in group file to get admin access privileges.
[11:11] <LiraNuna> dyn-afk, they shown a video of flash 8 working in ubuntu
[11:11] <wetduck> segfault, and I am booting froma rescue cd.
[11:12] <dyn-afk> just like they were updating the mac flashplayer to 8.5 which got canceled in the end and changed to version 9
[11:12] <spire_> Also, there has been introduced a bug with ipp printing for several months ago. Does anyone know when there will come a bugfix?
[11:12] <dv_> LiraNuna, with wine and a windows-firefox?
[11:12] <dv_> spire_, yeah, a nasty one
[11:12] <dv_> and no one wants to fix it
[11:12] <LiraNuna> dv_, don't think so
[11:12] <dv_> :/
[11:12] <dyn-afk> I tried that dv_ but I didn't have any sound
[11:12] <dv_> maybe all fixes go to edgy
[11:12] <godfather> hey guys,,,a question
[11:12] <dyn-afk> I can't change anything on the sound tab of winecfg because it'll crash winecfg
[11:12] <dyn-afk> :(
[11:12] <godfather> does ekiga use the same protocol of skype
[11:13] <godfather> ekiga uses sipprotocol
[11:13] <jrib> dyn-afk: error message?
[11:13] <ClayG> man anyone use opera as their main browser?
[11:13] <kitche> sip is actually used by all voip companies anymore godfather
[11:13] <kitche> ClayG: I use it
[11:13] <ClayG> I am almost ready to let it take firefox's place
 dyn-afk: error message? << nothing, just a crash
[11:13] <wetduck> segfault_, did you get it?
[11:13] <dyn-afk> it hangs, it closes, that's it
[11:14] <ClayG> kitche, is there a way to tell it to send tabs in the background like firefox does? I am  looking through prefs and still cant find it
[11:14] <ClayG> ?
[11:14] <segfault_> wetduck, dont edit group file by hand, chroot into ur env and and use usermod
[11:14] <kitche> ClayG: not that I know of
[11:14] <dyn-afk> but I'mnot using wine that much so I really don't care about that :P
[11:14] <ClayG> that is one of the things i hate
[11:14] <Lobster> ClayG rightclick and open in background tab
[11:14] <ClayG> i know you can with the mouth, by selecting it but you can't control-t a new tab in the background
[11:14] <dyn-afk> godfather ekiga uses sip which is an open standard for VoIP
[11:14] <ClayG> by the mouse, lolk
[11:14] <ClayG> yes, like that Lobster
[11:14] <segfault_> wetduck, u need to chroot becuase u want to edit ur system settings not the system settings of the live cd
[11:14] <dyn-afk> Skype uses its own closed proprietary protocol
[11:15] <ClayG> but i want to be able to do the toehr
[11:15] <ClayG> :(
[11:15] <E-mask> *activating interface "eth0"
[11:15] <E-mask> i really really really really really really really HATE network-admin
[11:15] <E-mask> it never works
[11:15] <E-mask> :(
[11:15] <E-mask> someone up high should be poked....to prioritise such things
[11:15] <E-mask> ...
[11:15] <E-mask> hmm then it says The interface eth0 is active
[11:15] <godfather> so i can't call a skype user using ekiga
[11:15] <E-mask> but it damn well isn't
[11:15] <godfather> ?
[11:15] <wetduck> segfault_, I don't think I was able to edit users. I had a oem instalating and after intalling my first user I got problem to use sudo for example.
[11:15] <dv_> the ipp bug is really bad. and  no one has fixed it for months. this is a real argument against ubuntu :/
[11:15] <dyn-afk> if you want to use skype then you have only one option:use the official skype software
[11:15] <ladydoor> !language
[11:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:15] <dyn-afk> no godfather you can't call a skype user with ekiga
[11:15] <godfather> ah ok
[11:15] <dyn-afk> if you want to call a skype user you have to use skype
[11:15] <segfault_> wetduck, that is not an issue with adding users, u must setup sudo for the new user seperately from adding the user
[11:15] <dyn-afk> there is no alternative
[11:15] <godfather> perfect i get it
[11:15] <segfault_> wetduck, man visudo for that
[11:15] <LiraNuna> !lol
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <kitche> well you can call a skype user if they have skype in :)
[11:16] <orbish> wow i really screwed up my system
[11:16] <dyn-afk> if you want skype in ubuntu download the 1.3 beta version for debian from the official skype site godfather
[11:16] <dyn-afk> the 1.3 beta version has proper sound support
[11:16] <wetduck> segfault_, and how do I do that? Do I need a rescue disk?
[11:16] <netG> Hi I really need help...
[11:16] <segfault_> wetduck, no u dont, boot into ur system and read man visudo
[11:16] <godfather> ok
[11:17] <godfather> i've just installed it
[11:17] <godfather> but thelinux version doesn't support the webcam option
[11:17] <netG> I can't update from security.ubuntu.com
[11:17] <orbish> ok, first of all i learn by screwing things up... so... onto my question:  i deleted /var/cache.  apt will not run.  any way to regenerate it?
[11:17] <segfault_> wetduck, u need an entry in the sudoers file for that user, man visudo will tell you how to do that
[11:17] <netG> Is there a running mirror???
[11:17] <wetduck> segfault_, ok. I think I might need you to solve it with me, could you please?
[11:17] <dyn-afk> true godfather
[11:17] <dyn-afk> the mac and linux skype versions are behind the windows version
[11:18] <dyn-afk> another reason why one shouldn't be using skype
[11:18] <dyn-afk> it really sucks
[11:18] <godfather> u're right
[11:18] <tannerld> on linux yes :P
[11:18] <segfault_> wetduck, feel free to read sudo and visudo documentation, if u still cannot do it then i will help
[11:18] <godfather> but anyone exspecially windows users use skype
[11:18] <rexbron> hello, Is it possible to fix an edgy upgrade from a live cd?
[11:18] <godfather> so....
[11:18] <sureshot> hey all i have tried to follow the instruction to install compiz and i dont even get an error message and dont know how to start it can someone help please
[11:18] <wetduck> segfault_, ok. Thank you for now.
[11:18] <segfault_> wetduck, np
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, yes, whats wrong with it?
[11:18] <wetduck> Or by now?
[11:19] <jasper> howdy
[11:19] <rexbron> Admiral_Chicago: basically, for some reason, ( dont know why i did not pick up on this) the main  repo gpg key was not accepted,
[11:20] <rexbron> and i have no kdm or internet
[11:20] <rexbron> just a command line
[11:20] <kitche> sureshot: you using gnome?
[11:20] <sureshot> yes
[11:20] <rexbron> cant reconfigire my xserver as it says it is not installed
[11:20] <sureshot> kitche yes i am
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> have you tried sudo starx? your x configuration may be worng
[11:20] <kitche> ok hang on a sec sureshot you have to use a script to use compiz
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> okay try sudo aptitude purge xserver
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install xserver
[11:21] <sureshot> kitche thanks
[11:21] <rexbron> can i do that from a live cd
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg
[11:21] <rexbron> as i have no internet when i boot from the hard drive
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> err sudo dpkg-recnfigure xserver-xorg
[11:21] <dyn-afk> +o
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, ah yes that wont work
[11:22] <kitche> sureshot: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2175
[11:22] <godfather> guys a programmelike amsn running on linux?
[11:22] <tannerld> ya got gaim
[11:22] <sureshot> kitche going there now i will read it and do what ever.. i an pretty new to this but i will try
[11:22] <kitche> gaim doesn't work with msn anymore
[11:22] <E-mask> hellooo
[11:22] <rexbron> I am rather SOL, as I need to get the internet, but cant connect to get the packages
[11:22] <E-mask> is there anyone here who knows anything about DHCP??
[11:22] <rexbron> that would give me the drivers
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, how do you normally connect?
[11:23] <reptyle> E-mask, whats the problem?
[11:23] <E-mask> I have an ubuntu install that has started to refuse to find a DHCP server
[11:23] <E-mask> it says no lease is offerred
[11:23] <rexbron> eth0
[11:24] <E-mask> the DHCP server is there
[11:24] <rexbron> Admiral_Chicago: eth0
[11:24] <E-mask> Puppy Linux finds it fine
[11:24] <E-mask> it has worked for probably over a year now... can't remmeber when i installed ubuntu
[11:24] <E-mask> am gonna try a different client just for fun...... but it probably won't work
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> no i mean pppoe, dhcp etc
[11:24] <rexbron> dhcp
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> then why can't it connect?
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> ah wait
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i get you
[11:25] <dyn-afk> try restarting the dhcp server
[11:25] <dyn-afk> then try again
[11:25] <rexbron> command?
[11:25] <dyn-afk> it might be too slow or something for ubuntu
[11:25] <dyn-afk> or it's just picky
[11:25] <E-mask> i don't own the dhcp server
[11:25] <E-mask> and it is not slow
[11:25] <E-mask> i am at uni
[11:26] <reptyle> E-mask, i would generally start by setting the machine to a static address and then see if networking actually works.  Its possible there is a physical issue (cabling etc), or the drivers in the kernel are not working properly.  Or the dhcp server is no longer offering leases to that mac address.
[11:26] <E-mask> the server is fine
[11:26] <mipstien> opengl isn't working, i can not seem to turn on direct rendering. everything worked at one point :\
[11:26] <E-mask> the dhcp server gives puppy linux a lease...
[11:26] <E-mask> on every boot
[11:26] <dyn-afk> did you install any graphiccard driver that has opengl support mipstien ?
[11:26] <E-mask> but ubuntu gets nothing
[11:26] <reptyle> E-mask, if you are at a uni, are you running puppy linux on the same machine?
[11:26] <rexbron> Admiral_Chicago: how does one use a cd as a repo?
[11:26] <E-mask> yes
[11:26] <mipstien> i have SLI nvidia 6600GT's
[11:27] <E-mask> i think that could've caused it
[11:27] <E-mask> lol
[11:27] <mipstien> i have been playing all games in wine OpenGL and other linux native games
[11:27] <dyn-afk> try booting back into puppylinux E-mask
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, you edit that in synaptic
[11:27] <reptyle> E-mask, you could try using the Ubuntu install/live cd to see if that works.
[11:27] <dyn-afk> in puppylinux you release the ip-adres for the interface
[11:27] <E-mask> how do i release it?
[11:27] <rexbron> umm i only have the CLI
[11:27] <dyn-afk> then boot back into ubuntu and try getting a lease
[11:27] <sharky-> how do i change my "real name" on the system?
[11:28] <E-mask> puppy works fine every time
[11:28] <rexbron> Admiral_Chichago: umm i only have the CLI
[11:28] <rexbron> Admiral_Chicago: umm i only have the CLI
[11:28] <E-mask> the ubuntu live cd is no use to me............ i don't want to loose my ubuntu install
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> CLI?
[11:28] <rexbron> Command line
[11:28] <rexbron>  interface
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> E-mask, you know the live CD doesn't install anything in your computer and leaves it perfectly intact
[11:29] <E-mask> yes
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, ah yes, did you comment it out
[11:29] <rexbron> comment what out?
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> check /etc/apt/sources.ist
[11:29] <wetduck> segfault, when I try to Share a folder I get this line: Failed to run shares-admin --add-share=/home/wetduck/Desktop/Shared
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> .list
[11:29] <wetduck> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[11:29] <rexbron> I'll post my sources for the edgy install
[11:30] <sureshot> kitche my startxgl.sh file does not have a xmodmap in it what is that
[11:30] <btdown> !pastebin
[11:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:30] <sureshot> kitche it gives an error on -fullscreen
[11:30] <Hoxzer> how do I take screen from one window only?
[11:30] <kitche> you mean a screenshot?
[11:30] <Hoxzer> yeha
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, check /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <dyn-afk> E-mask to release on ip-address try: dhclient -r eth0
[11:31] <dyn-afk> see man dhclient for more information
[11:31] <kitche> Hoxzer: well I use gimp's screenshot tool myself
[11:32] <sureshot> kitche are you to busy at the moment to answer a few questions from me ??? i understand
[11:32] <Hoxzer> kitche: k, thx
[11:32] <dyn-afk> Hoxzer the same as in windows:)
[11:32] <rexbron> Admiral_Chicago: this is my soruces.list http://pastebin.ca/186402
[11:32] <dyn-afk> printscreen is the entire screen
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, let me review it
[11:32] <btdown> my edgy sources.list = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25248/  (the edgy canonical repo isnt up yet though...)
[11:32] <kitche> sureshot: I m going to dinner right now
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> brb
[11:32] <dyn-afk> alt-printscreen is the window that has the focus
[11:33] <dyn-afk> the active window
[11:33] <Hoxzer> dyn-afk: ... yeah, but I was asking how do I take a screen from one window only...
[11:33] <sureshot> ok i will ask someone else in a few need to correct a few mistakes
[11:33] <dyn-afk> that is from one window Hoxzer : alt-printscreen
[11:33] <dyn-afk> the same as in Windows
[11:33] <Hoxzer> dyn-afk: thx
[11:33] <dyn-afk> np
[11:33] <Asc> How might I check the *actual* version of the kernel I'm using?
[11:33] <Chamuco> if I had stuff on a partition and it got formated on to reiser from ext3 can I recover files?
[11:34] <Dr_willis> Chamuco, ick.
[11:34] <dyn-afk> Asc open a terminal and type uname -r
[11:34] <Blissex> Chamuco: yes if you pay a lot of money :-)
[11:34] <sureshot> my startxgl.sh for compiz file does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that
[11:34] <Chamuco> to whom?
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, you have a few errors, i'll fix them
[11:34] <Blissex> Chamuco: however you might be able to recover it yourself,
[11:34] <Chamuco> how?
[11:34] <rexbron> ok
[11:34] <Chamuco> who should i kill!
[11:34] <Asc> dyn-afk: Okay, thanks.
[11:34] <rexbron> but that will not alow me to connect to the internet
[11:34] <dyn-afk> np
[11:34] <rexbron> Admiral_Chicago: but that will not alow me to connect to the internet
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, nevermind
[11:35] <mcphail> Chamuco: have a look at photorec
[11:35] <Blissex> Chamuco: if you have only formatted it, and done nothing else, try to use the 'e2fsck' option with the number of a secondary superblock.
[11:35] <rexbron> Admiral_Chicago: What I need is if it is possible to do a dist-upgrade from a live cd to a not active os
[11:35] <Chamuco> Blissex: sorry should
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> someone was saying security.ubuntu.com wasn't working
[11:36] <Chamuco> I install e2fsck
[11:36] <Blissex> Chamuco: but whatever you do it is ESSENTIAL that you make an exact copy of that partition on another disk
[11:36] <rexbron> that way i could finnish the upgrade
[11:36] <Blissex> Chamuco: and never ever run any recovery attempt on the original.
[11:36] <rexbron> Admiral_Chicago: that way i could finnish the upgrade
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> but i just got a hit off it
[11:36] <Blissex> Chamuco: don't do anything that might modify the original.
[11:36] <Chamuco> ok
[11:36] <Blissex> Chamuco: always try things on a copy.
[11:36] <Chamuco> so how would I copy the partition?
[11:37] <Blissex> Chamuco: do a web search for "secondary superblock" and recovery.
[11:37] <Chamuco> ok
[11:37] <E-mask> i am so close to just deleting ubuntu completely and starting again
[11:37] <E-mask> network admin is just horrible
[11:37] <E-mask> its useless
[11:37] <E-mask> i don't think it helps that it has a default gateway choice and that keeps going blank
[11:37] <Blissex> Chamuco: to copy a partition you can use 'cp' or 'dd' on the device file.
[11:37] <cypenguin> hi ppl
[11:37] <Blissex> Chamuco: but if you have to ask a question like this, get someone who is a system administrator to do things for you.
[11:37] <cypenguin> i used to use pptpconfig to connect to vpn
[11:38] <cypenguin> i upgrade to edgy
[11:38] <cypenguin> and now it freeze after connection
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, brb i'm off doing a million things
[11:38] <mcphail> cypenguin: ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:38] <rexbron> ok
[11:38] <cypenguin> mcphail: ok
[11:38] <Blissex> Chamuco: I would very much suggest going to your local Linux User Group and asking for help from someone who is very familiar with partitions and filesystems.
[11:38] <sureshot> my startxgl.sh for compiz file does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that
[11:39] <kablam> hello guys
[11:39] <Blissex> Chamuco: BTW there is hope: most of the data on your partition is undamaged. formatting as ReiserFS only overwrites a few megabytes at the beginning of the partition.
[11:39] <toubsu> is there a hdparm type command for sata drives?
[11:39] <kablam> <--- ubuntu noob here asking for some help on formatting a new hd in my ubuntu server
[11:39] <Asc> Okay, this is interesting.  I finally downloaded the latest kernel update that appeared in update-manager.  Then I recompiled from the source it put in /usr/src.  The resulting kernels are 2.6.15.27 (the one that it installed) and 2.6.15-7 (the one I compiled).  Did it download the wrong version of the source, or did it get misnamed somehow?
[11:40] <M_A_K> I just installed kubuntu.  I like kde better than gnome, but do like some gnome apps.  How do I install gnome now?  What do I look for in synaptic?
[11:40] <sureshot> my startxgl.sh for compiz file does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that
[11:40] <Blissex> toubsu: 'hdparm'
[11:40] <sethk> M_A_K, you don't need to
[11:40] <dts> how do i make a cron job run every 5 minutes
[11:40] <sethk> M_A_K, just install the app
[11:40] <modern2> don't know
[11:40] <sethk> M_A_K, the dependencies will take care of the rest
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> rexbron, if you want, find me in #ubuntu-chicago
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm afk
[11:40] <dyn-afk> 2.6.16-27 is the latest official ubuntu kernel Asc
[11:40] <kablam> so how do i partition and format my hdc when i do fdisk/dev/hdc i get error message
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> less volume there too
[11:40] <M_A_K> Ok, i installed "terminal" I prefer gnome terminal to Konsole.  Where is it?
[11:41] <sethk> M_A_K, I don't know the name of it, I use KDE.  try gnome-terminal
[11:41] <dyn-afk> Asc: your homebrew kernel is different from the official ubuntu one
[11:41] <M_A_K> nothing (at command line anyway).
[11:41] <toubsu> Blissex: i should say 'hdparm -i'
[11:42] <Asc> dyn-afk: I compiled it from the source it downloaded with the kernel 2.6.15-27.  But it says that the one I compiled is version 2.6.15-7.
[11:42] <jrib> @lart seveas
[11:42] <sethk> M_A_K, I'll look up the command name.  anyone running gnome can use ps and tell you the name
[11:42] <jrib> oops
[11:42] <Blissex> toubsu: depending on what you want to do try 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' or 'sdparm'
 is there a hdparm type command for sata drives? << no, sata will be seen as scsi, I don't know if it was freebsd that had sdparm or if it was ubuntu but that is the scsi alternative to hdparm
[11:42] <dyn-afk> hmm, that's weird Asc
[11:42] <M_A_K> Thanks.
[11:43] <sethk> M_A_K, I do show it as gnome-terminal.  are you sure you installed it?
[11:43] <M_A_K> I thought so.  I will try again.
[11:43] <Asc> Yeah, I thought so too.
[11:43] <mcphail> dts: use */5 in the "minutes" column
[11:43] <sureshot> ok i will ask someone else in a few need to correct a few mistakes
[11:43] <kablam> is there a grafic hd partitioning thingy like the one you use in the installation that you can access from the terminal?
[11:43] <sethk> M_A_K, ok, it is in /usr/bin/gnome-terminal on my box.
[11:43] <sureshot> my startxgl.sh for compiz file does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that
[11:43] <dts> mcphail: thank you
[11:43] <wetduck> !paste
[11:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:43] <M_A_K> Thanks.  I guess It did not install.
[11:44] <M_A_K> I am used to synaptic, not the default kde package manager.
[11:44] <sethk> M_A_K, doesn't matter.  package name is also gnome-terminal
[11:44] <Asc> Well, the changelog in the source archive says it's 15-27... maybe it's safe to assume there was a misnaming at some point.
[11:44] <Peter77> hi, I can't find the firewall in ubuntu
[11:44] <M_A_K> Ok.
[11:44] <dyn-afk> kablam the graphical one that is used in the installer is called gparted
[11:44] <sethk> M_A_K, you can use synaptic, or just use apt-get at the command line, all the tools work regardless of which desktop you choose.
[11:44] <dyn-afk> it's a graphical frontend for the commandline tool called parted
[11:44] <kablam> thx dyn
[11:44] <M_A_K> I am learning that.
[11:44] <Asc> Oh, I know how to check
[11:44] <dyn-afk> you also have qtparted
[11:44] <sethk> M_A_K, I use synaptic on my kde boxes as well.  it's a good tool.
[11:45] <M_A_K> I like it.
[11:45] <dyn-afk> gparted is the graphical frontend that use gtk, qtparted uses qt
[11:45] <sureshot> my startxgl.sh file for compiz does not have a xmodmap statement in it what is that
[11:45] <dyn-afk> but there are more minor differences between them
[11:45] <kablam> hmm i guess i have to install those dont seem to be installed
[11:45] <Asc> Hah, got it.  The eject button on my cd drive works, and that started happening when I upgraded to 2.6.12
[11:45] <M_A_K> Yea....we have liftoff.
[11:46] <M_A_K> Thanks
[11:46] <kablam> is it spt-get install gparted?
[11:46] <Peter77> wheres the firewall located in ubuntu?
[11:46] <sethk> M_A_K, np  :)
[11:46] <kablam> i meen apt-get
[11:46] <sethk> Peter77, linux includes iptables, which is a sophisticated ip filter
[11:46] <dyn-afk> Peter77 by default there isn't any
[11:46] <Jon4> Hi there, I'm trying network 2 computers using a crossover cable. I've setup the ip in /etc/network/interfaces. Could now ping from one comp to the other. How do I navigate the file directory for the other computer to copy folder(s) across. Thanks
[11:46] <sethk> Peter77,some people call that a firewall, although it isn't really.
[11:46] <wetduck> segfault_, are you there?
[11:46] <dyn-afk> well, at least there isn't any firewall setup
[11:46] <M_A_K> My first install was ubuntu (Gnome) and then I installed KDE.  I found that I like KDE better than gnome, so this time I installed kubuntu.
[11:46] <sethk> Peter77, but you can't run a real firewall on a box, a real firewall is a separate machine
[11:46] <dyn-afk> mostpeople install firestarter as a firewall
[11:46] <Peter77> ok, could I download firestarter then?
[11:47] <dyn-afk> which is just a graphical frontend for iptables
[11:47] <dyn-afk> yes Peter77 you can
[11:47] <sethk> M_A_K, I install from the regular disk anyway, I don't bother with a different cd.  I install the base system, then if I need a desktop on a particular box, I install it
[11:47] <dyn-afk> you can install it from the repositories
[11:47] <giggsey> Whenever I reboot my ubuntu, it resets its keyboard layout to US, anyway I can force it to stick to UK
[11:47] <[GuS] > firestarter is somekind avandoned...
[11:47] <dyn-afk> you might need to enable universe and multiverse
[11:47] <M_A_K> Wow, 118 updates available.  Guess it'll be a while.
[11:48] <kablam> Peter77: im using webmin and shorewall makes it easy
[11:48] <dyn-afk> shorewall is a great alternative to firestarter :P
[11:49] <Malachi> ladydoor, I've returned with no successed.
[11:49] <ladydoor> Malachi: that stinks...what was your problem again?
[11:49] <ladydoor> Malachi: (sorry)
[11:50] <Malachi> Openoffice.
[11:50] <frieekazoid> hi
[11:50] <Malachi> I tried reinstalling openoffice like you said, and no success.
[11:50] <kablam> dyn-afk: how would yo ppartition and format hdc when fdisk/dev/hdc isnt flying i checked dmesg and hdc is my new 300gb drive acording to it
[11:50] <ladydoor> Malachi: aha. hmmm...perhaps try re-installing ubuntu-desktop? it won't uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[11:50] <Malachi> Did it.
[11:50] <Malachi> No success.
[11:50] <sureshot> hey all i cant get compiz working and i dont know how to use past bin i have the errors if someone would help
[11:51] <dyn-afk> so /dev/hdc is your 300G HD ?
[11:51] <Jon4> Hi there, I'm trying network 2 computers using a crossover cable. I've setup the ip in /etc/network/interfaces. Could now ping from one comp to the other. How do I navigate the file directory for the other computer to copy folder(s) across. Thanks
[11:51] <kablam> acording to dmesg
[11:51] <riddlebox> how do I reconfigure a package? like exim4?
[11:51] <dyn-afk> Jon4 enable samba on both machines or something like that
[11:52] <kablam> [42949377.890000]  hdc: max request size: 64KiB
[11:52] <kablam> [42949377.930000]  hdc: 586072368 sectors (300069 MB) w/16384KiB Cache, CHS=36481/255/63, UDMA(100)
[11:52] <kablam> dyn-afk: thats from dmesg
[11:52] <kablam> so it should be it right
[11:52] <sethk> Jon4, you have to use a network file system.  if both are running linux or unix, use NFS.  If one is running windows, use samba (unless you have nfs for windows, which is available but not free)
[11:53] <Jon4> Both computers are kubuntu pcs. I figured it'll just be a simple act of plugging the network cable in. What's NFS??
[11:53] <cafuego> sethk: nfs for windows is free. But shit,
[11:53] <Peter77> does gnome use a registry?
[11:53] <_ph00> I need an ubuntu version that wont update kernels
 sethk: nfs for windows is free. But shit, << microsoft made it free but later pulled the download
[11:54] <Jon4> All I'm trying to do is copy a folder across from one pc to the other. When I tried using sftp Iget "connection refused". Firewall already disabled on both computers.
[11:54] <dyn-afk> so there isn't any nfs support anymore
[11:54] <riddlebox> _ph00, when you find that let me know
[11:54] <cafuego> Hmm.
[11:54] <dyn-afk> kablam your hd should be right yes
[11:54] <sethk> dyn-afk, there is nfs support from third parties, but they are not free
[11:54] <kablam> ok thx
[11:54] <dyn-afk> fdisk /dev/hdc should work though
[11:54] <dyn-afk> try gparted /edv/hdc instead kablam
[11:54] <dyn-afk> sethk that's nice
[11:55] <kablam> Unable to open /dev/hdc
[11:55] <kablam> hmm maybe sudo first
[11:55] <dyn-afk> but you can also search on the net to find the microsoft free download one
[11:55] <_ph00> because, my job includes installing stuff on 6-pack joe's computers, and I'm trying to push linux. I recommend ubuntu because I think it's very good distro for people coming from wiondows, so I often try to get them to insatll a dual boot
[11:55] <sethk> dyn-afk, ok, that one I didn't know about.
[11:55] <dyn-afk> kablam that would be wise to do :P
[11:55] <xst> It seems that there might be a fix in the future for the CUPS printing-over-ipp bug in dapper. Does anyone know when it will be available? https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/cupsys/+bug/55828
[11:55] <Peter77> whats apt-get?
[11:55] <cafuego> dyn-afk: Um, Services for UNIX 3.5 *is* available for download.
[11:56] <Asymmetry> Peter77, awesome.
[11:56] <dyn-afk> it still is?
[11:56] <cafuego> dyn-afk: looking at it now
[11:56] <kablam> that worked better (/slap myself)
[11:56] <dyn-afk> I saw news messages on some technews sites that it wasn't available anymore
[11:56] <cafuego> Yup, works fine
[11:56] <_ph00> but, the problem is, that I set up a noob friendly grub screen, but with the next kernel upgrade that will switch back to the standard grub screen, which can confuse my 6-pack-joe users, so I need an ubuntu that won't upgrade kernels
[11:56] <dyn-afk> could you give me the link cafuego I'll bookmark it :)
[11:56] <cafuego> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/downloads/default.asp
[11:56] <Asymmetry> _ph00, remove the metapackage for the kernel.
[11:57] <_ph00> metapackage
[11:57] <_ph00> k
[11:57] <Asymmetry> _ph00, want me to explain further?
[11:57] <dyn-afk> thnx cafuego
[11:57] <_ph00> yup
[11:57] <_ph00> I never removed a metapackage before...
[11:58] <Peter77> lol linus likes gnome :-)
[11:58] <dyn-afk> it's a shame though that the MS NFS support is 217MB big :X
[11:58] <sethk> dyn-afk, I guess you get what you pay for.  :)
[11:58] <kablam> dyn-afk: hmm made a primary partition .. how do i format the damn thing?
[11:59] <cafuego> dyn-afk: it's only 5Mb, the rest is work-around to have windows not crap itself when using a real network fs ;-)
[11:59] <Asymmetry> _ph00, you know how you have, say, a kernel package? That'd be this: linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-server
[11:59] <_ph00> yes
[11:59] <_ph00> I can recognize a kernel packge ok.
[11:59] <Asymmetry> _ph00, the metapackage for that would be: linux-image-amd64-server
[11:59] <dyn-afk> kablam that's a good question :P
[11:59] <kablam> hahaha
[12:00] <_ph00> without the kernel version?
[12:00] <Asymmetry> _ph00, no version number specified. That means on an upgrade, fetch the latest version.
[12:00] <_ph00> hm
[12:00] <bwlang> anybody have a lenovo z61?  How does ubuntu do with it.  I'm concerned about suspend, hibernate, and fast disk
[12:00] <Asymmetry> _ph00, if I remove linux-image-amd64-server, it'll stick with the specific kernel package i have installed, because it doesn't know to look for a new one.
[12:00] <_ph00> but how do I keep ubuntu from upgrading kernels at all
[12:00] <_ph00> right
[12:01] <Asymmetry> _ph00, that's exactly how. it won't upgrade kernels anymore, until you apt-get a specific kernel, or the metapackage.