[12:01] <dyn-afk> kablam: did you use the graphical partition tool btw ?
[12:01] <_ph00> asymmetry, so what I have to do is removing the kernel package with the kernel version and keep the one without kernel version only?
[12:01] <Asymmetry> _ph00, that's backwards. No version = metapackage. Version = REAL kernel (don't remove it).
[12:01] <Asc> Hey, that's sure neat.  Thanks, Asymmetry.
[12:02] <_ph00> remove no-version, then
[12:02] <Asymmetry> _ph00, sure.
[12:02] <riddlebox> what do I use with dpkg to reconfigure a package?
[12:02] <_ph00> asimmetry: OK. no-version is "fetch-latest" with-version is "curent kernel" right?
[12:02] <kablam> dyn-afk nope i installed it but didnt get all dependencies
[12:02] <mcphail> riddlebox: dpkg-reconfigure :)
[12:02] <Peter77> how do I install firestarter?
[12:02] <kablam> somethin g borked and would not start
[12:02] <_ph00> so, remove no-version and keep yes-version
[12:03] <riddlebox> ahh I was trying dpkg --reconfigure
[12:03] <Asymmetry> _ph00, correct.
[12:03] <_ph00> cool
[12:03] <_ph00> thanks
[12:03] <kablam> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'
[12:03] <kablam> Aborted
[12:03] <dyn-afk> kablam is using parted on the commandline ?
[12:03] <sethk> Peter77, easiest way is with the graphical package manager synaptic
[12:03] <kablam> yeah
[12:04] <sethk> riddlebox, the package name
[12:04] <Peter77> thanx
[12:04] <kablam> dyn the errror abvoe is what i get
[12:04] <w30> yhoughts/thoughts
[12:04] <riddlebox> sethk, exim4_4.60-3ubuntu3.1_all.deb
[12:05] <phiqtion> how do i get AMSN in ubuntu?
[12:05] <Shadowpillar> sudo apt-get install amsn
[12:05] <dyn-afk> how did you create a partition then kablam ?
[12:05] <kablam> sudo fdisk /dev/hdc
[12:06] <dyn-afk> ok
[12:06] <farchord> imo gaim > amsn
[12:06] <phiqtion> Shadowpilar, it says package not found
[12:06] <dyn-afk> there is a formatting tool voor ext3 but I forgot the name :X
[12:06] <ladydoor> !amsn
[12:06] <phiqtion> Shadowpillar, it says package not found
[12:06] <kablam> made aprimary for the whole disk partition 1 and wrote it to disk
[12:06] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[12:06] <godfather> how can i kill an application in crash
[12:06] <ladydoor> phiqtion: have you enabled universe/
[12:06] <ladydoor> ?
[12:06] <nico8481> hello
[12:06] <dyn-afk> it is a ext2 tool actually but you need an extra option so it will create a journal and thus an ext3 partition
[12:06] <phiqtion> ladydoor, no, how do i do that?
[12:06] <ladydoor> !repos > phiqtion
[12:06] <ladydoor> phiqtion: read the bot's pm :-)
[12:06] <kablam> ok so the tyoe i need is ext3?
[12:07] <kablam> type even
[12:07] <phiqtion> ladydoor, thank you
[12:07] <ladydoor> phiqtion: no problem
[12:07] <sethk> kablam, if you need to boot from that drive, you can't do it that way
[12:07] <Shadowpillar> phiqtion: all repositories enabled?
[12:07] <sethk> kablam, if it's not primary master, then it's unusual but not wrong
[12:07] <dyn-afk> you need more then 1 partition though
[12:08] <dyn-afk> well, it's a good thing to have at least 2 partitions
[12:08] <sureshot> hey all i am having problems with compiz i would like some help... first off i would like to know what xmodmap is
[12:08] <dyn-afk> one for / and a swap
[12:08] <w30> godfather, to kill an application type ps aux | grep application and then kill -9 (process number) which is the first number
[12:08] <nico8481> i'm trying to copy stuff from my ubuntu server to my osx machine but i run into problems using NFS (osx doesn't want to copy the stuff for some reason) so i'm trying to configure samba to see if it works better... any idea what does the "public" checkbox do in the "share folder" dialog ?
[12:09] <riddlebox> has anyone installed exim4?
[12:09] <kablam> dyn-afk: got it its sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda
[12:09] <dyn-afk> nico8481 I think that would make the share publicly available as in: anyone even if they don't have a useraccount can reach it
[12:09] <dyn-afk> mkfs..ofcourse :P
[12:09] <dyn-afk> that easy :D
[12:09] <kablam> and i have a extra ata1000 controler card in thsi box
[12:09] <nico8481> hmm
[12:09] <kablam> ata 100
[12:09] <nico8481> :-/
[12:10] <kablam> even
[12:10] <dyn-afk> just don't do /dev/sda that is a scsi device or a sata disk or an usb disk
[12:10] <dyn-afk> bbl
[12:10] <dyn-afk> my mum tells me to eat some toast or something
[12:10] <dyn-afk> I'm not refusing that :P
[12:10] <RedGhost> ?:z
[12:10] <kablam> heheh thx man
[12:11] <dyn-afk> np kablam
[12:11] <sethk> kablam, it's not wrong to put a file system on a device
[12:11] <Peter77> ok how do I download firestarter?
[12:11] <Mike_BioNerd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[12:11] <sethk> many people think it is, but it isn't.
[12:11] <w30> nico8481, can't you use ssh and rcpy?
[12:11] <sethk> unless, as I said before, you need to reserve that space for the MBR (that is, you want to boot from the drive), or you don't want to use the entire drive as a single file system
[12:12] <Mike_BioNerd> Does anybody know how to change the default background shown behind the splasch screen when dd starts?
[12:12] <nico8481> w30: don't think they've been integrated in the GUI... don't want to mess with the CLI to get my stuff copied :P
[12:13] <Peter77> is it possible to run KDE and GNOME on ubuntu?
[12:13] <kaot> yes
[12:13] <Asymmetry> Peter77, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I think.
[12:13] <Mike_BioNerd> just download kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu
[12:13] <Blissex> Peter77: it is more or less mandatory. DO IT NOW! :_)
[12:13] <Peter77> so I could switch between GNOME and KDE?
[12:14] <Mike_BioNerd> then you can choose at the login manager
[12:14] <steamR> Mike_BioNerd: sessions
[12:14] <kablam> Peter77: apt-get install firestarter
[12:14] <Mike_BioNerd> sessions?
[12:14] <Peter77> do I type that in the terminal kablam?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> gdm/kdm has a menu to puck what one to startup
[12:14] <kablam> Peter77: sorry forgot "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[12:14] <sureshot> !nvidia
[12:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:14] <kablam> yeah
[12:15] <sethk> Peter77, if you install both, you can use the session menu in the login screen to choose
[12:15] <Mike_BioNerd> the default background under the splash screen? not brown?
[12:15] <Peter77> sethk, sweet
[12:15] <sethk> Peter77, there are other choices, too, not just gnome and kde, if you like to experiment
[12:15] <junmin> hi, someone can recommend me some tutorial/book/web page about the server administration? please
[12:15] <steamR> Mike_BioNerd: sorry, System->Admin->loginwindow
[12:16] <Peter77> "couldn't find package firestarter"
[12:16] <steamR> Peter77: In universe
[12:16] <kablam> Peter77: that command i gave you is for firestarter i thought you aske about that
[12:16] <sethk> Peter77, your repositories aren't set up to show you everything
[12:16] <sethk> Peter77, enable universe; you can do it from synaptic
[12:17] <w30> nico8481, how about your server? Does it act as an ftp server also? if so throw the files in your ftp directory or link to yor ftp directory.
[12:17] <sethk> kablam, he did
[12:17] <kablam> sethk: ok was a bit gone here trying to figure out my own problem
[12:17] <nico8481> w30: nope it doesn't
[12:17] <Peter77> how do I "enable" universe?
[12:17] <jrib> ubotu: tell Peter77 about universe
[12:17] <w30> nico8481, and then use a Mac gui ftp client to drag and drop them
[12:18] <kablam> hmm hdc1 is the first partition on hdc right?
[12:18] <sethk> Peter77, settings/repositories
[12:18] <Peter77> ok
[12:18] <we2by> wow
[12:18] <we2by> beryl is alot nicer than compiz
[12:18] <sethk> Peter77, look at your menus, they won't bite you  :)
[12:18] <sethk> Peter77, strictly speaking you aren't enabling them, that's just the misnomer that's commonly used
[12:19] <Peter77> I have, I can't find universe
[12:19] <kablam> <--- stuck in terminal miss my gui's :(
[12:19] <sethk> Peter77, you are just removing a comment character from the beginning of a line in a configuration file
[12:19] <sethk> Peter77, normally it is there.  you can add it (of course once you know what to add)
[12:19] <sethk> Peter77, you have nothing with "universe" in the "section(s)" column?
[12:20] <w30> nico8481, kill your wan and link your directories to be copied to an html directory and then use a mac browser?
[12:20] <Malachi> I installed kubuntu-desktop, and now openoffice doesn't work. Any ideas?
[12:20] <kablam> Peter77: read part 6 on thi page
[12:20] <kablam> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3
[12:20] <nico8481> hmm... i'm gonna try ftp i think
[12:20] <steamR> Peter77: I would go for shorewall. Wery easy config files. Takes you 15 minutes to rtfm, then your in control. Not GUI by default...
[12:21] <nico8481> brb
[12:21] <steamR> Very
[12:21] <kablam> steamR: i got it workign without teh RTFM part in 10 mins with webmin=)
[12:21] <steamR> kablam: that is an option
[12:22] <Peter77> ok installed firestarter
[12:22] <w30> nico8481, if you don't have an index.html I think your server will serve directories in you server directory, www or what ever.
[12:23] <farchord> haha cool just discovered a cool game in ubuntu
[12:24] <farchord> PlanetPenguin (aka Tuxracer)
[12:24] <Peter77> ok now to install kde
[12:25] <Peter77> ok can I install KDE through Synaptic and what do I need to do?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> Peter77,  install Kubuntu-desktop as the Kubuntu FAQ states
[12:25] <Peter77> k
[12:26] <sureshot> what is the apt-get command do download and install the fglrx drivers
[12:27] <sethk> Peter77, there is also a KDE section (in synaptic) with lots of additional stuff
[12:27] <dyn-afk> sureshot: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:28] <sureshot> thanks
[12:28] <iLLucionist> Hi, is it possible to install Ubuntu text-based?
[12:28] <wwwdotcom> anyone have amarok on their ubuntu/
[12:28] <sethk> iLLucionist, sure
[12:28] <iLLucionist> 6.06 LTS
[12:28] <wwwdotcom> ?
[12:28] <iLLucionist> sethk: params?
[12:28] <dyn-afk> yes iLLucionist
[12:28] <sethk> iLLucionist, use the text mode install on the alternate cd
[12:28] <brian98> Hi
[12:28] <dyn-afk> download the alternatecd and use that one
[12:28] <dyn-afk> it has the textinstall version
[12:28] <iLLucionist> sethk: alternate cd? ubuntu server? for I do not know
[12:29] <sethk> iLLucionist, no, there are three CDs
[12:29] <phiqtion> guys, is there yahoo messenger for ubuntu?
[12:29] <dyn-afk> if you also want ubuntu in text mode make sure you install "server"
[12:29] <rcmiv> edgy install sees my hda and my sda, but not my sdb, can I force it to?
[12:29] <sethk> iLLucionist, desktop, server, and alternate
[12:29] <phiqtion> how can i get yahoo messenger?
[12:29] <rcmiv> mount it first or something?
[12:29] <iLLucionist> sethk: I see, thx.
[12:29] <sureshot> how do i force an overwrite of the fglrx files
[12:30] <dyn-afk> phiqtion try gaim, there isn't an official yahoo messenger for linux
[12:30] <brian98> Weird problem, please help! I ping www.google.com and I get 64 bytes from 66.102.9.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=11.7 ms but it takes about 6 seconds and 6 seconds for each response thereafter. If I ping the ip all is good. I have 3 ubuntu machines on the same network and it only happens on one.. Any ideas? I have tried everything I can moving dns around etc...
[12:30] <iLLucionist> gtg, thx for info...must've been blindfolded while browsing through download list
[12:31] <phiqtion> dyn-afk, thx
[12:31] <sureshot> how do i force an overwrite of the fglrx files
[12:31] <dyn-afk> there might be more programs phiqtion
[12:31] <dyn-afk> sudo apt-get -f install ... << that's what I would do sureshot
[12:32] <pking> i was wondering is there a testbased web browser so i can use via ssh
[12:32] <dyn-afk> jup
[12:32] <dyn-afk> linnks, lynx
[12:32] <dyn-afk> *links
[12:32] <sureshot> dyn-afk thanks i messed somethings up need to start over LOL
[12:32] <dyn-afk> lol
[12:32] <rcmiv> pking use links
[12:32] <dyn-afk> nicely done sureshot :P
[12:32] <sethk> sureshot, you can use the --reinstall flag with apt-get
[12:32] <dyn-afk> lynx+ssl even :P
[12:32] <pking> what links
[12:33] <dyn-afk> links is the name of the programm pking
[12:33] <sureshot> what would be the syntax sethk
[12:33] <dyn-afk> -m
[12:33] <rcmiv> links rules, lynx is kinda overkill, in my opinion
[12:33] <dyn-afk> damn typo's
[12:33] <rcmiv> edgy install sees my hda and my sda, but not my sdb, can I force it to?
[12:33] <sethk> sureshot, apt-get install --reinstall package-name
[12:33] <pking> would apt-get install links   get it
[12:33] <dyn-afk> I think it's just what one prefers rcmiv
[12:33] <sureshot> thanks sethk
[12:33] <rcmiv> dyn-afk true
[12:33] <rcmiv> like em both actually
[12:34] <sethk> rcmiv, depends on why it isn't seen
[12:34] <rcmiv> sethk i was afraid you'd say that
[12:34] <sethk> rcmiv, sorry :)
[12:34] <sethk> rcmiv, any ideas?
[12:35] <dyn-afk> me too rcmiv, they're both good
[12:35] <sureshot> well that worked after i realized i did not use sudo... i think i am going crazy and i dont need to pack a back it is not a big trip for me
[12:35] <dyn-afk> so uhm, install both :P
[12:35] <rcmiv> I am going to go mess about, and maybe come back with more info....
[12:35] <dyn-afk> hf messing about
[12:35] <sethk> rcmiv, poke around in /sys, see what you can find out
[12:35] <rcmiv> no ideas at this time
[12:35] <rcmiv> thx
[12:36] <Rasta> helou
[12:36] <Rasta> just got dapper drake, any advice, recomendation, warning before install?
[12:36] <mathieu> what are people using for calendar applications that can import and export ical files ?
[12:37] <mathieu> other than evolution
[12:37] <sureshot> backup
[12:37] <Jas-Nix> hello, I am new to ubuntu as I've said :) how do I check the version of .deb's ? I can run apt-cache search banshee, but I don't know what version it is
[12:38] <jrib> Jas-Nix: apt-cache policy package_name
[12:38] <Jas-Nix> jrib: awesome thanx I will check out 'man apt-cache'
[12:39] <ubuntu__> i love you ubuntu 6.10
[12:39] <sureshot> does anyone here know how to get compiz to work
[12:39] <jrib> ubuntu__: tell Jas-Nix about apt
[12:39] <dyn-afk> mathieu you can try that calendar tool from Mozilla
[12:39] <jrib> ubotu: tell Jas-Nix about apt
[12:39] <dyn-afk> it supports ical
[12:39] <ubuntu__> bye :)
[12:39] <dyn-afk> and I think it also supports ical serverthingies
[12:39] <delight> the first beryl packages r done ;) did somebody try ?
[12:40] <SonicChao> !bearshare
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bearshare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <SonicChao> Hmm
[12:40] <SonicChao> Is there a way to use Bearshare in Ubuntu?
[12:40] <delight> funny that they have named the themes emerald :-D
[12:40] <Rasta> !install
[12:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:40] <delight> !beryl
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <delight> !beryl-project
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl-project - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Rasta> that ! its useful
[12:41] <dyn-afk> what's beryl anyway?
[12:41] <THX-1138> #ubuntu-xgl
[12:41] <dyn-afk> sounds like some sort of chemical
[12:41] <dyn-afk> like radium
[12:41] <Rasta> or beryl
[12:41] <delight> dyn-afk is the fork of compiz not depending on gnome
[12:42] <dyn-afk> aha
[12:42] <dyn-afk> ubuntu is using gnome so I don't think a lot of them are using beryl :P
[12:42] <THX-1138> it's bleedomg edge don't be ;et down if it doesn't run well on ypur machine. - xcommger will
[12:43] <delight> dyn-afk lol ... its working with gnome 2
[12:43] <delight> its the quinstorm packages if you know what that is
[12:43] <Kojima-Kazuma> Ello
[12:43] <KDan> Ubuntu installed!
[12:43] <we2by> congrat
[12:43] <dragonfire1> hello
[12:44] <Peter77> ok it's nearly finished, thanx for the help
[12:44] <Kojima-Kazuma> what program should i install to make a boot disk
[12:44] <dyn-afk> I know quinstorm yes
[12:44] <aLPHa_LeaK>  nn
[12:44] <THX-1138> Congratulations! - Welcome to open source Ubuntu.
[12:44] <delight> so they forked from the novell compiz development team giving it a new name called compiz
[12:44] <brian98> Weird problem, please help! I ping www.google.com and I get 64 bytes from 66.102.9.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=11.7 ms but it takes about 6 seconds and 6 seconds for each response thereafter. If I ping the ip all is good. I have 3 ubuntu machines on the same network and it only happens on one.. Any ideas? I have tried everything I can moving dns around etc...
[12:44] <rcmiv> ok, hda sda and sdb are all correctly autodetected by dapper, but edgy installer does not see sdb
[12:45] <rcmiv> sdb is an internal sata hd
[12:45] <delight> because it was hard form them to integrate there patches as the novell workers were not very supportetive
[12:45] <THX-1138> rcmiv - Does the mount -a command help?
[12:45] <Kojima-Kazuma> What program would i use for making boot disks
[12:45] <rcmiv> THX-1138 haven't tried it, will do so...
[12:46] <THX-1138> kojima - boot floppies?
[12:46] <dyn-afk> it's not windows :P
[12:46] <delight> I mean then new name for the quinstorm is beryl ...
[12:46] <Kojima-Kazuma> no boot CDs
[12:46] <dyn-afk> mostly they use dd to write a floppy boot image to disk
[12:46] <rcmiv> do you have to mount -a  a specific partition
[12:46] <w30> brian98, I have problems with my ip if I use all the dns servers in the nameserver <ipnumber> resolv.conf file. Maybe play with the nameserver items in resolv.conf?
[12:46] <dyn-afk> but that's the installer bootimage
[12:46] <sureshot> ok all i had to leave the computer and i did not see a reply does someone know  how and willing to share how to install and make work compiz
[12:46] <Kojima-Kazuma> im making a ubuntu disk
[12:46] <Rasta> someone can give me a hand in how to register my nick? seems that i cant speak in many channels as i dont have a registered nick
[12:47] <w30> brian98, one at a time
[12:47] <THX-1138> Kojima - In Ubuntu right click onn the image. - In windows isopowertoy by alex feinmann
[12:47] <brian98> w30, ok
[12:47] <brian98> w30, thanks, it's weird how if only just started happening though
[12:47] <Kojima-Kazuma> i making a ubuntu boot disk so what program should i use
[12:48] <dyn-afk> maybe you have a DNS server that isn't reachable in your resolv.conf brian98
[12:48] <dyn-afk> if that server is the first dns server in your resolv.conf then it'll try to reach that
[12:48] <dyn-afk> if it can'treach it, it'll try the next one
[12:48] <brian98> If I DIG the response it instant dyn-afk
[12:48] <brian98> is instant
[12:48] <w30> brian98, I use insightbb.com and broadband cable and my troubles started early summer after they upgraded som stuff.
[12:48] <dyn-afk> that might cause the delay
[12:48] <w30> som/some
[12:49] <dyn-afk> strange brian98
[12:49] <THX-1138> Kojima - are you using windows now? isopowertoy. in ubuntu just right click on the file - from the command line cdrecord
[12:49] <Kojima-Kazuma> What program is best used for boot CDs
[12:50] <brian98> dyn-afk,  basically if i ping x.x.x.x It responds straight away and the pings come back about a second at a time, If I ping a host they never time out but take about 6 seconds each time :S
[12:50] <THX-1138> Kojima - I saw casper and the squashfs on ubuntu cds. It's the part the bios sees.
[12:51] <w30> brian98, how does the whois command respond?
[12:51] <sureshot> does anyone know and is willing to share how to install and make compiz work
[12:51] <brian98> w30, immediate
[12:51] <brian98> hrmmmmm
[12:51] <brian98> 0 delay
[12:52] <brian98> w30 host command is the same
[12:52] <dyn-afk> brian98 if pinging to an ip is faster then to a name then that points to dns trouble
[12:52] <brian98> just pings.
[12:52] <THX-1138> w30 - there is a  graphical interface on the admin menu - "network tools" - unless you are bash scripting why not use the gui
[12:52] <slipttees> hello
[12:52] <brian98> THX-1138, I prefer the console.. Faster
[12:52] <slipttees> fsck.ntfs ?
[12:53] <dyn-afk> sureshot: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for compiz, it has a very nice tutorial for installing and configuring compiz
[12:53] <brian98> I wonder if I apt-get remove ping and reinstall :)
[12:53] <Peter77> what other desktops are available?
[12:53] <dragonfire1> Is there a download I have to add to get video like the one's in Google? WOuld appreciate what to do . I can get the tutorials and voice in ubuntu thaks
[12:53] <sureshot> i will try again i think i have been there but i will check dyn-afk thanks
[12:54] <slipttees> fsck.ntfs ?
[12:54] <slipttees> !fsck.ntfs
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck.ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <dyn-afk> sureshot that's how I installed xgl and compiz :)
[12:54] <THX-1138> flv video files
[12:55] <theCoder> is this a good place to ask a Ubuntu installation question?
[12:55] <dragonfire1> I also would like to see a monitor on tool bar for updates. My linux user group has them on theres what do I have to do to have an update area looked like two monitors thanks
[12:55] <slipttees> !fsck
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <slipttees> !fsck.ntfs
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck.ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <slipttees> :(
[12:55] <THX-1138> dragonfire - desklets maybe?
[12:55] <levander> Anbydoy here is using emacs' tramp mode to open files via sudo?  I can't figure out how to get it to work.
[12:55] <brian98> slipttees, what do you need to know?
[12:56] <dragonfire1> thx I will look around thanks
[12:56] <slipttees> scandisk partition ntfs in linux!
[12:56] <slipttees> exists fsck.ntfs?
[12:56] <dragonfire1> which book would be the best to buy for Ubuntu to assist a newbie
[12:56] <gnomefreak> dragonfire1: the official ubuntu book ;)
[12:56] <bwlang> dragonfire1: imho, none - just ask your specific questions here ...
[12:57] <levander> dragonfire1: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/102-2181915-4780960
[12:57] <THX-1138> Ubuntu publishes a very friendly manual - free naturally.
[12:57] <brian98> slipttees, I dunno anything about that
[12:57] <bwlang> slipttees: yes - it's pretty good
[12:57] <levander> dragonfire1: i've never looking at that one, but check it
[12:57] <slipttees> ?
[12:57] <dyn-afk> slipttees fsck excist but I think what you need is in the ntfstools
[12:57] <mipstien> how do you log your boot up and any errors that come out of it?
[12:57] <THX-1138> connonical ubuntu manual
[12:57] <dyn-afk> mipstien those are already logged in dmesg
[12:57] <gnomefreak> mipstien: it should already be in /var/log/
[12:57] <dyn-afk> in /var/log if I'm right
[12:58] <dyn-afk> in Ubuntu there is also a graphical way to get to it :)
[12:58] <levander> dragonfire1: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/104-8221351-8303101 - that's the one everybody else is talking about
[12:58] <brian98> slipttees, what dyn-afk says
[12:58] <theCoder> I'm trying to help (via email) my parents install Ubuntu, but the installation CD had trouble loading on their system.  They said there was some error about "Buffer I/O error on device dm-0".  Does that ring a bell to anyone?
[12:58] <brian98> Anyone any idea on my issue?
[12:58] <bwlang> mipstien: it's always logged ... have a look in /var/log/kern.log
[12:58] <dyn-afk> mipstien: System >Administration > System Log
[12:58] <brian98> not my mental one
[12:58] <dragonfire1> looking guy's slow the scroll bar LOL
[12:58] <dyn-afk> :P
[12:58] <brian98> just the ip issue
[12:58] <levander> theCoder: you've got your parents installing ubuntu??
[12:58] <theCoder> well, I'm trying :)
[12:59] <bwlang> theCoder: sounds like  a bad cd or bad drive to me?
[12:59] <levander> theCoder: how did you talk them into trying it?
[12:59] <levander> theCoder: you've got to figure out what "dm-0" is, it's probably a hardware device, but i don't know which one
[12:59] <theCoder> bwlang: I don't think it's a HW problem (the drive seems to work otherwise)
[12:59] <brian98> Has everyone seen bill clintons latest recomendations?
[01:00] <THX-1138> lshw might tell you
[01:00] <bwlang> brian: can you summarize - i'm too lazy to read all the way back
[01:00] <brian98> offtopic http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm
[01:00] <brian98> bwlang:
[01:00] <brian98> dyn-afk,  basically if i ping x.x.x.x It responds straight away and the pings come back about a second at a time, If I ping a host they never time out but take about 6 seconds each time :S
[01:00] <THX-1138> lshw | grep dm-0 ??
[01:00] <levander> theCoder: it sounds like a hardware error from the error message
[01:00] <theblue> Bill Clinton > Bill Gates
[01:00] <theCoder> levander: is there an easy way to determine what "dm-0" is?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> brian98: feel free to confine your offtopic topics/links to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:00] <bwlang> brian98: x = number, host = friendly name ?
[01:00] <levander> theCoder: do a google search on the exact error message, and the error message only
[01:00] <theblue> Pardon.
[01:01] <brian98> x = number host = friendly
[01:01] <dyn-afk> bwlang brian98 is pinging to an ip-address which is faster then when pinging to a hostname/domainname
[01:01] <mipstien> ok well i have an error that comes up during startup but it isn't showing up there i don't believe, it says something along the lines of not having permission to do something with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile
[01:01] <bwlang> theCoder: sorry - i don't have any other idea of what might be wrong...
[01:01] <brian98> gnomefreak: I just thought that one was worth sharing, won't do it again: love the bottom comment.
[01:01] <theCoder> levander: tried that.  I found a couple references (in the Ubuntu forums) that weren't very helpful
[01:01] <dyn-afk> imho that points to dns problems
[01:01] <dyn-afk> like a slow dns server
[01:01] <brian98> which I agree with except host, dig and whois run fine :S
[01:02] <levander> theCoder: hold on, i'll google that error message, see if i can find anything
[01:02] <bwlang> brian98: what an interesting problem... i was under the impression that ping would cache dns resolution.  Do both end up with the same IP address ?
[01:02] <bwlang> brian98: did you traceroute yet?
[01:02] <brian98> bwlang: yes
[01:02] <bwlang> brian98: same route for both?
[01:02] <brian98> bwlang: and traceroute and tracepath both are ok
[01:03] <brian98> I could do a pastebin but there is no point because you won't see the pause...
[01:03] <bwlang> brian98: to eliminate DNS from the equation i suggest adding a record to /etc/hosts - that should narrow things a bit...
[01:03] <mipstien> ok well i have an error that comes up during startup but it isn't showing up there i don't believe, it says something along the lines of not having permission to do something with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile
[01:03] <g333k_laptop> what about ubuntu edgy? is it still unstable?
[01:03] <brian98> bwlang: now there is a great idea
[01:03] <brian98> bwlang, one sec
[01:04] <bwlang> g333k_laptop: yes - it's not released yet.
[01:04] <levander> theCoder: it looks like dm-0 is a SATA hard drive
[01:04] <mipstien> is there a way to tell what a particular file is linked to which synaptic package?
[01:04] <levander> theCoder: you know what SATA is?
[01:05] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, when is it supposed to be released? I need some pkgs from him... like the new xfce4
[01:05] <theCoder> levander: yes, I don't know what HW is in the machine, though
[01:05] <caimex> I was turning on my comp and I got GRUB error 13, I saw this means unsopported format. My hdd certainly isnt dead, I can read its contents from the LiveCD. any suggestions for fixing this?
[01:05] <bwlang> g333k_laptop: i think end of the month... there's a schedule on the wiki.  If you're willing to put up with possible breakage and have some experience, it might be worth your trouble try it out.
[01:05] <theCoder> levander: does Ubuntu work with SATA drives?
[01:05] <caimex> yes
[01:06] <brian98> bwlang, ok, it's definitely DNS
[01:06] <levander> theCoder: i would assume so
[01:06] <levander> theCoder: does the LiveCD boot for them?
[01:06] <bwlang> caimex: i think you should run grub from your live cd ... set root (hd x,y) setup (hd x)  (where x = hard drive #  and y = partition #) both 0 based
[01:07] <theCoder> levander: the LiveCD is what is giving the errors.  It apparently does come up (after a long time), but the installation fails
[01:07] <mipstien> is there a way to tell what a particular file is linked to which synaptic package?
[01:07] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, lets say that I install it... what should I do when edgy be released
[01:07] <bwlang> brian98: if it's your ISP's dns maybe you could try  dnscache or dnsmasq to cache dns requests.  I like dnscache but some people don't like djb software
[01:08] <levander> theCoder: what does the LiveCD stall for so long on?  like what is the last message on the screen when the LiveCD is stalling so long?
[01:08] <bwlang> g333k_laptop: nothing - just update periodically
[01:08] <caimex> bwlang: can you explain how to do this. I'm pretty familiar with linux by now but I dont know what you mean by that
[01:08] <pyxystyx> hey guys...how do you turn off the bell for xterm and change the color scheme?
[01:08] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, so where can I get edgy from?
[01:08] <bwlang> g333k_laptop: that you're asking me that makes me wonder if it's a good idea for you try edgy right now...
[01:08] <levander> theCoder: if you don't know, it's not a big deal, i'm just curious
[01:08] <theCoder> levander: I don't know much about the error, only what they said by email.  I'm actually visiting them in a week.  I just dropped by here to see if this was a known issue that had an easy fix I could email.
[01:09] <brian98> bwlang, it doesn't affect any other machines on the network
[01:09] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, I will do because of neccesity
[01:09] <phire> hey everyone, Last night I managed to crash ubuntu, cause gimp had a 3.8 gb image, but I got to 80% of saving as a jpg, but the actual file is empty. Would there be a way to rescue it out of the temp or something??
[01:09] <levander> theCoder: here's kind of an interesting forum thread that has a couple of small things to check: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/40546-fedora-just-died-me.html
[01:09] <bwlang> caimex: just run "grub" from the live cd.  type "root (0,0)" or whatever , then setup (hd0) or whatever
[01:09] <caimex> k, I'll try this
[01:09] <levander> theCoder: but, my guess is that you're up against a hardware driver problem
[01:10] <printk> phire: might try .gimp-2.2/tmp
[01:10] <THX-1138> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126746  open an xterm or terminal, and enter the two linesCode: set b off xset b 0 0 0
[01:10] <levander> theCoder: I would log that as a bug in launchpad, and see if you get any kind of response
[01:10] <phire> k thanks
[01:10] <filosol> hi
[01:10] <mipstien> is there a way to tell what a particular file is linked to which synaptic package?
[01:10] <levander> theCoder: if it's a known problem, that's the most direct way I currently know of for trying to find out
[01:10] <theCoder> levander: thanks for your help!
[01:10] <filosol> where can i download a live cd?
[01:10] <gnomefreak> mipstien: apt-file should help you there
[01:10] <g333k_laptop> bwlang, so where can I get edgy from?
[01:11] <pyxystyx> anyone?
[01:11] <levander> theCoder: it would probably be helpful if you could put the model of Computer and even if you have it of hard drive
[01:11] <sepb> hola
[01:11] <levander> pyxystyx: trying right clicking on the window and see if a menu pops-up,  otherwise i'd check wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <sepb> Que hi ha algu?
[01:12] <phire> printk: .gimp-2.2/tmp is empty but there is a 3.8gb file called "gimpswap.10312"
[01:12] <weex> has anyone had a problem where firefox takes a long time to do a dns lookup?
[01:12] <mipstien> gnomefreak: that command does nothing and has no indication that it can do anything
[01:12] <levander> weex: it's probably the dns server's fault
[01:12] <levander> weex: try the same lookup from the command line
[01:12] <THX-1138> pyxystyx: did you see my link? xset 0 0 0 in terminal
[01:12] <weex> it's fast from bash
[01:13] <THX-1138> xset b
[01:13] <gnomefreak> mipstien: install apt-file first
[01:13] <levander> weex: firefox does have some bugs around the edges, try restarting firefox maybe?
[01:13] <weex> this has been persistent over several reboots
[01:13] <levander> weex: also, if i remember, there are some about:config settings for dns in firefox
[01:14] <gnomefreak> !apt-file
[01:14] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[01:14] <gnomefreak> mipstien: ^^^
[01:14] <ifvoid> ok guys
[01:14] <weex> last night I even moved my profile but I'll check the about:config
[01:14] <levander> weex: also, irc.mozilla.org has a #firefox channel that's slow, but some knowledgable people do hang out
[01:14] <bwlang> i just lost my connection... somebody was asking me about edgy upgradeing ... here's the link
[01:14] <bwlang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[01:14] <ifvoid> I just upgraded my edgy laptop tonight
[01:14] <mipstien> gnomefreak: yes?
[01:14] <ifvoid> and now it's totally borked
[01:14] <mipstien> gnomefreak n/m i see it
[01:14] <weex> thanks levander
[01:14] <sepb> Sou tots forasters?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> mipstien: read what ubotu said
[01:14] <martii> hi
[01:14] <ifvoid> something seesm _very_ wrong with dhclient and firends
[01:14] <bwlang> If I've ignored you please repeat your message...
[01:15] <martii> I have latest edgy beta1
[01:15] <martii> looks like network manager doesn't work well
[01:15] <brian__> .
[01:15] <g333k_laptop> what should  I do if I want xfce4 from edgy to install in dapper ?
[01:15] <KDan> where can I find a list of what's in the Ubuntu Dapper universe?
[01:15] <ifvoid> I get lots of permission denied errors
[01:15] <martii> its unable to save gateway info
[01:15] <we2by> guys
[01:15] <filosol> anyone knows where i can download a livecd
[01:15] <we2by> what file extension are the emerald themes files??
[01:15] <mipstien> gnomefreak: so how do i link a file to an apt instead of apt to file?
[01:16] <chrisjw> hi there, could someone tell me how to install tahoma please?
[01:16] <THX-1138> we2by - emerald theme? - sounds interesting
[01:16] <gnomefreak> mipstien: you wanted to find out what file belonged to what package right?
[01:16] <Languid> has anyone else in here had problems with usplash displaying a weird "test" image instead the true edgy one after upgrading to edgy?
[01:16] <we2by> THX-1138, yea
[01:16] <chrisjw> I have a windows license so it shouldn't be an infringement of copyright laws
[01:16] <we2by> just got it installed and working perfect
[01:16] <mipstien> gnomefreak i wanted to find out which program used the files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile
[01:17] <gnomefreak> mipstien: nvidia-glx
[01:17] <ravenous> anyone know how to set a seperate resolution for a laptop screen and regular monitor connected to it?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> mipstien: thats one of a few
[01:17] <THX-1138> chrisjw - lol - the DMCA digital millenium copyright act makes us all criminals in the US. muhahaha!
[01:17] <mipstien> gnomefreak: ok well if i fix my bootup error it causes my nvidia to sotp working. . .
[01:18] <ifvoid> no one has an pointer for network problems with edgy?
[01:18] <chrisjw> hehe
[01:18] <chrisjw> how would i install it though?
[01:18] <chrisjw> I'm having problems with fonts on this OS
[01:18] <chrisjw> its just looking evil
[01:18] <bwlang> chrisjw: if you're talking about the font  you want the msttcorefonts package
[01:18] <mipstien> gnomefreak: the files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile are causeing a problem something about permissions, i can't find the exact error, but if i reinstall nvidia it makes opengl stop working
[01:18] <Languid> has anyone else in here had problems with usplash displaying a weird "test" image instead the true edgy one after upgrading to edgy?  anyone?
[01:18] <chrisjw> like bold looks all horrid and i don't really like the clear type effect
[01:18] <DJ_Danni> Hello
[01:18] <THX-1138> !fonts
[01:18] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[01:18] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[01:18] <chrisjw> that package doesn't include tahoma :(
[01:18] <we2by> what file extension are the emerald themes files??
[01:18] <DJ_Danni> Hey i need a help
[01:18] <DJ_Danni> #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[01:18] <DJ_Danni> What dose this mean?
[01:18] <elaziz> i have 5.10 version of ubuntu, is it possible to update to dapper after installtion of 5.10 easily?
[01:19] <bwlang> chrisjw: hmm - well i guess you could just put the ttf /usr/share/fonts
[01:20] <DJ_Danni> Me?
[01:20] <brian__> how long does it take for your clone to die when your connection times out :)
[01:20] <elaziz> is it easy to update to latest version of ubuntu ? or should i download the iso file of dapper?
[01:20] <chrisjw> can i copy the tahoma from my windows partition
[01:20] <THX-1138> alaziz - i would download the iso
[01:20] <bwlang> DJ_Danni: it doesn't sound like you have mysql running properly ... and some other program is trying to use it.
[01:21] <bwlang> chrisjw: you can, as far as "may you" i don't know
[01:21] <steveire> hey. During the edgy install there was a section about choosing a network interface. I think I picked the wrong one, because I can't connect to the internet using it. Can I make that choice again?
[01:21] <elaziz> is there a configuration tool for xgl in dapper?
[01:21] <chrisjw> its just the fonts look really weird
[01:21] <DJ_Danni> Noat shure but the My SQL shut be runing:S
[01:21] <bwlang> steveire: now is the time to learn about /etc/network/interfaces...
[01:21] <brian__> steveire, #ubutuntu+1
[01:21] <mipstien> the files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile are causeing a problem something about permissions, i can't find the exact error, but if i reinstall nvidia it makes opengl stop working
[01:22] <chrisjw> I have 96dpi but it's displaying bold really badly, like close together
[01:22] <filosol> very usuful
[01:22] <steveire> brian__: It's not specific to edgy.
[01:22] <THX-1138> stevire - ifconfig is the netwrok command
[01:22] <DJ_Danni> i am logged in as root
[01:22] <steveire> bwlang: Ok, let's go.
[01:22] <THX-1138> iwconfig - wireless
[01:23] <sktfeelsdapper> Is there a wine room?
[01:23] <almimoni> hi, how to install xfce on Ubuntu 6.06?
[01:23] <pianoboy3333> What program can allow me to view the pictures on my iPod, so I can delete a few I don't need?
[01:23] <DJ_Danni> Do you know how i can fix this?
[01:23] <steveire> yeah, I tried if- and iwconfig, and I don't think my eth0 and ath0 showed up as they do in dapper.
[01:23] <brian__> alimoni sudo aptitute install xfce-desktop
[01:23] <Languid> anyone know of an easy way to install firefox 2.0 rc1 on edgy?
[01:23] <sktfeelsdapper> I gotta find out why aim isn't working in wine...but that's ok.
[01:24] <slavik> Languid: just update?
[01:24] <slavik> Languid: #ubuntu+1 for edgy needs :)
[01:24] <Languid> slavik, thanks, ill ask there :)
[01:24] <sktfeelsdapper> Is there a wine room?
[01:24] <elaziz> hehe i pick up a girl via ubuntu hehehe
[01:24] <brian__> almimoni,  sudo aptitute install xfce-desktop
[01:24] <brian__> almimoni,  or see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002
[01:24] <sktfeelsdapper> i'm curious to see why wine doesn't work for me.
[01:24] <sktfeelsdapper> well wine works, just aim doesn't work in wine.
[01:25] <bwlang> elaziz: uhoh - i hope it's not one of those "i'll date you if you fix my computer" situations ;)
[01:25] <rcmiv> ok...I finally have my question specifically defined...drive sdb and all of it's partitions are mountable, but gparted cannot see /dev/sdb...any ideas?
[01:25] <rcmiv> its
[01:25] <slavik> sktfeelsdapper: why do you need AIM? use GAIM
[01:25] <brosnan> Languid: you can download firefox 2 from mozilla.org and follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:25] <pianoboy3333> What program can allow me to view the pictures on my iPod, so I can delete a few I don't need?] 
[01:25] <almimoni> THX very much :)
[01:25] <sktfeelsdapper> It's not so much I need it, I just want to try it.
[01:25] <bwlang> rcmiv: does fdisk -l /dev/sdb output what you expect?
[01:25] <sktfeelsdapper> I'm using mIRC on wine right now.
[01:25] <sktfeelsdapper> But aim can't build some cooldll or something like that.
[01:25] <sktfeelsdapper> !wine
[01:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:26] <steveire> I want to mount my edgy partition in dapper. Is there a script I can run again to find and mount all available drives?
[01:26] <rcmiv> bwlang, yes
[01:26] <Languid> brosnan, that works.  thanks! :)  ill give it a shot
[01:26] <rcmiv> bwlang, it outputs all of the correct partitions
[01:26] <bwlang> rcmiv: bummer - i've never seen a situation where those two disagree... - you are running from a lived or another disk right?
[01:26] <bwlang> rcmiv: s/lived/livecd/
[01:27] <rcmiv> bwlang, running edgy livecd, can't do an install because of gparted's blindess
[01:27] <sureshot> the ubuntu wiki says that the compiz software is alfa and the repos are broken do not install is this page just old or is this true
[01:27] <rcmiv> bwlang, have mounted the drive, and can see all the partitions, but gparted cannot...weird
[01:27] <Tokenbad> sureshot, they went from compiz to beryl
[01:28] <Tokenbad> beryl is now released though
[01:28] <Asymmetry> I can't believe some of the people that bother talking in ##linux.
[01:28] <rcmiv> bwlang, what is s/lived/livecd?
[01:28] <sureshot> so search on bery
[01:28] <bwlang> rcmiv: sorry - i'm stumped...  just one idea (maybe it's bad)  you could try rewriting your partition table by deleting and re-adding one.  Be careful - that's dangerous
[01:28] <DJ_Danni> Do somone know hwo i start the MySQL?
[01:29] <Asymmetry> DJ_Danni, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:29] <Tokenbad> so you could do the dapper howto but change compiz to beryl
[01:29] <rcmiv> bwlang, thanks for your help, i understand it's a weird sitch...prob a bug...
[01:29] <bwlang> rcmiv: it means replace lived with livecd - that's a "regular expression" used in programming
[01:29] <Tokenbad> sureshot, so you could do the dapper howto but change compiz to beryl
[01:29] <DJ_Danni> I have tryek /etc/init.d/mysql Start and restart and i cannoat see it Restart or Start:S
[01:29] <sureshot> Tokenbad have to be sorta straight up with me i have to have 2 operations on my back and not till november and i am on pretty stiff pain meds to say it out right i am very high at the moment
[01:30] <Tokenbad> sureshot, you went to #ubuntu-xgl?
[01:30] <bwlang> sureshot: if you're high then your dosage is too high... be careful - getting off of those is a bitch.
[01:30] <Meta[CNTDWN] > bye all
[01:30] <sureshot> ok thanks did not know that exsitied
[01:30] <sktfeelsdapper> so yah wine
[01:30] <rcmiv> bwlang, though I am comfortable lotsa stuff, rewriting the partition table manually just ain't gonna happen
[01:30] <DJ_Danni> Is there anny whay to start MySQL diffrend?
[01:30] <sktfeelsdapper> is there a wine room?
[01:30] <THX-1138> #winehq
[01:30] <bwlang> sureshot: sorry - i know you wern't asking - but i have a friend who had major problems coming off of percoset etc...
[01:31] <dyn-afk> don't you mean a wine cellar ? :P
[01:31] <sktfeelsdapper> hahha
[01:31] <sureshot> i know bwlang i take 10mg of perc every 4 hours but i rather go through withdraw than have the pain
[01:31] <sktfeelsdapper> i went to wine and the topic was funny
[01:31] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:31] <THX-1138> #cedega also - please don't mention cedega in winhq - they are kinda touchy there.
[01:32] <sktfeelsdapper> How about here?
[01:32] <sktfeelsdapper> haha
[01:32] <sureshot> i understand bwlang i apreciate the comment i am stuck on the couch and that is ware i have been all summer this is a bummer
[01:32] <bwlang> sureshot: maybe you can talk to your doc about getting a finer grained dose (ie  do 5x2mg  so you can dial it in just right to kill the pain but not get you high)
[01:32] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?
[01:32] <sureshot> i will do that i hate being high i am not one to do that hate to drink beer for that reason
[01:32] <bwlang> sureshot: i hope your surgey is successful!
[01:33] <DJ_Danni> in PM
[01:33] <sureshot> but wblang any comment showing you care is alway appreciated and needed ok
[01:33] <sureshot> thanks alot
[01:33] <sktfeelsdapper> wine is quiet. dang man
[01:34] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me with MySQL or noat? PM me PLEAS.
[01:34] <sureshot> i cant drink wine man i am diabetic as well
[01:34] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni: it's best to ask for help in the channel so that if someone messes up others can correct it.
[01:34] <noaxark> Hey. I'm installing Xubuntu on a 6GiB hdd. How much space should I allocate for the / partition?
[01:34] <sktfeelsdapper> Hahaha
[01:34] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:34] <DJ_Danni> ok
[01:34] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni: and also, just ask your specific question to the channel to see if anyone can help or not
[01:34] <bwlang> DJ_Danni: sorry - i just don't have the time right now...  you'll want to have a look in /usr/share/doc/mysql
[01:35] <crimsun> being diabetic doesn't preclude one from drinking wine </offtopic>
[01:35] <robbbb> anyone run enlightened gnome?
[01:35] <sktfeelsdapper> haha
[01:35] <sktfeelsdapper> You guys are great.
[01:35] <sureshot> bwlang i am going over to the ubuntu-xgl channel so you have have a good day
[01:35] <DJ_Danni> Always when i try to logg in to phpmyadmin as root i get #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[01:35] <wept> i accidentally downloaded the amd64 image and installed it on a pentium (which worked), but now it will only give me the linux-images for amd64...is there some apt setting i need to change?
[01:36] <ladydoor> wept: you can install the proper kernel
[01:36] <sureshot> i know it iwas off topic and being as diabetic as i am a glass of wine would shoot my surgar level into the 300 i will now be quite
[01:36] <dutch> have checked the forums...can't print to an HP722C....anyone have any ideals  ?
[01:36] <ladydoor> wept: (and then you can uninstall the *improper* kernel if you want)
[01:36] <JoseStefan> Hello World!
[01:36] <wept> ladydoor: the problem is, apt-cache search only displays the amd64 versions
[01:37] <feross> noaxark: around 4GB should be fine
[01:37] <noaxark> ah. thanks.
[01:37] <ladydoor> wept: what repositories do you have enabled? would you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:37] <rubso> hey guys, i want to enable WMV and QuickTime Plugins in Firefox, please?
[01:37] <sktfeelsdapper> How much hd does ubunto use btw?
[01:37] <wept> just like on my other pentium systems it doesnt show the amd64 kernels
[01:37] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?
[01:37] <sktfeelsdapper> I have 2 10gb hd's and with just ubuntu installed it now says 6.? is left.
[01:37] <ladydoor> !someone
[01:37] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:37] <erUSUL> wept: EMT64 (intel 64 bits) is compatible with amd64 so you are fine with an amd64 kernel
[01:37] <robbbb> what window manager does everyone use?
[01:37] <SpacePuppy> lol
[01:38] <gnomefreak> rubso: install w32codecs
[01:38] <ladydoor> robbbb: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:38] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs > rubso
[01:38] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:38] <slavik> erUSUL: EMT64 != IA64, right?
[01:38] <robbbb> why is that off topic?
[01:38] <wept> erUSUL: it seems that way but id still like to find out how i can change it...
[01:38] <rubso> gnomefreak: they're already installed, i want it to be played under Firefox.
[01:38] <gnomefreak> robbbb: its not a support question
[01:38] <sktfeelsdapper> Well the only answers I ever needed were the whole sound issue. Haha
[01:38] <printk> philc: ah that might be it.. sorry for late reply
[01:38] <robbbb> i asked my support question, but nobody answered, or knew the answer
[01:38] <erUSUL> slavik: right
[01:39] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: uhhmm I'm only using 3GB.
[01:39] <gnomefreak> rubso: try mplayer if totem isnt playing them
[01:39] <printk> philc: er i meant phire, sorry
[01:39] <robbbb> i was after some more info to sort it myself
[01:39] <erUSUL> wept: what you would like to change?
[01:39] <rubso> gnomefreak: k thanks.
[01:39] <sktfeelsdapper> So it only uses 3?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> robbbb: what was your question
[01:39] <slavik> robbbb: metacity (gnome default)
[01:39] <sktfeelsdapper> Another thing is I have 2 hd's.
[01:39] <sktfeelsdapper> And my other one is still ntfs
[01:39] <wept> erusul: it seems like because its running an amd64 kernel, apt-cache search and apt-get are only giving me amd64 kernels to install
[01:39] <robbbb> i need to get rid of the background from gnome as the enlightenment background is behind it
[01:39] <sureshot> by the way there is no one chatting on ubuntu-xgl i will try other soarces
[01:39] <sktfeelsdapper> And I really need that other hd for space, because I download alot of uh.....things.
[01:39] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: it's less than 3GB if you don't count all the software I've installed
[01:39] <DJ_Danni> There is no help here to get
[01:40] <gnomefreak> robbbb: are you using gnome with the E WM?
[01:40] <sktfeelsdapper> I should probably get rid of some of these extras...i'm scared to but.
[01:40] <robbbb> gnomefreak: yeah
[01:40] <ladydoor> DJ_Danni:  not if you don't bother to ask your question.
[01:40] <sktfeelsdapper> Last time I got rid of anything firefox went crazy.
[01:40] <SpacePuppy> rofl.
[01:40] <erUSUL> wept: there is no em64t specific kernel you have to use amd64 it is the closest you will get unless you build your own kernel
[01:40] <sktfeelsdapper> And I couldn't get into my own "home"
[01:40] <slavik> sktfeelsdapper: as long as ubuntu-desktop stays there ...
[01:41] <gnomefreak> robbbb: thats normal.
[01:41] <sktfeelsdapper> Well it was some dependency or something.
[01:41] <robbbb> parts of gnome are annoying me and need to get rid of them
[01:41] <wept> erusul: im using just a regular pentium 4 though, not 64 bit at all
[01:41] <robbbb> i.e. it seems to be controlling the mouse
[01:41] <sktfeelsdapper> I can't remember, I'm going to have to start taking notes of what I do.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> robbbb: your seeing parts of the Desktop Environment not the background
[01:41] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: I only have two partitions, / and /home for junk .. MP3's jpgs downloaded softwar etc
[01:41] <gnomefreak> robbbb: than log into E not gnome
[01:41] <robbbb> and the background is overwritten
[01:41] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:41] <wept> ladydoor: my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25261/
[01:41] <robbbb> yeah but i need the nice GTK effects i've set up in gnome
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> That's what I need, I'd love to move all my junk onto the other hd.
[01:42] <ladydoor> robbbb: check this out:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> So I have more room for stuff on here.
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> !hd
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <robbbb> yeah i've read that
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> !ntfs
[01:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:42] <ladydoor> robbbb: it's a little old, but it still updates, so you might check the first few posts and the last few
[01:42] <ladydoor> robbbb: oh...
[01:42] <dyn-afk> !fuse
[01:42] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:42] <sureshot> is there any other channels except ubuntu-xgl that talk about xgl and compiz
[01:42] <dyn-afk> !boom
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <dyn-afk> :P
[01:42] <sktfeelsdapper> Hmm, see I tried that whole "mount" thing and I couldn't read my other drive.
[01:43] <POVaddct> !lxdoom
[01:43] <sktfeelsdapper> If I could just toss my extras on the other hd I would be able happy.
[01:43] <ubotu> lxdoom: Unix port of boom, an enhanced version of DOOM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-9.2 (dapper), package size 286 kB, installed size 480 kB
[01:43] <robbbb> the problem with all these howtos is that they dont really tell you the technical stuf behind how to acomplish these things
[01:43] <sktfeelsdapper> !gaim
[01:43] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[01:43] <sktfeelsdapper> I don't like gaim.
[01:43] <dyn-afk> or why on earth you need to do something is also something that mostly isn't in those howto's robbbb
[01:43] <gnomefreak> sktfeelsdapper: are you done playing/fishing with the bot?
[01:43] <sktfeelsdapper> Sorry.
[01:44] <dyn-afk> sktfeelsdapper then try something else :P
[01:44] <sktfeelsdapper> I am.
[01:44] <dyn-afk> what IM do you need?
[01:44] <dyn-afk> msn? aim? icq? jabber?
[01:44] <sktfeelsdapper> Well I mostly talk on IRC now.
[01:44] <sktfeelsdapper> Aim is a thing of the past.
[01:44] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: I think the best way to set it up if you're dual-booting like I am is.. 1 partition Windows, 1 swap, 1 ubuntu install, 1 storage partition EXT3 ... Install the Windows program to read EXT3 partitions and that way you have one place to store files and read them from ubuntu and windows.
[01:44] <robbbb> because i want the best
[01:44] <dyn-afk> then stick to something like xchat or bitchx or irssi
[01:44] <ladydoor> sktfeelsdapper: then you might like irssi, using bitlbee for any instant messaging
[01:44] <sureshot> is there any other channels except ubuntu-xgl that talk about xgl and compiz
[01:45] <sktfeelsdapper> Well I don't have windows actually ON the other hd.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> sureshot: no
[01:45] <sktfeelsdapper> It's just ntfs.
[01:45] <sktfeelsdapper> I just have ubuntu now.
[01:45] <sureshot> thanks for the answer gnomefreak nice nick by the way
[01:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:45] <slavik> sktfeelsdapper: why don't you like gaim?
[01:45] <ladydoor> !best > robbbb
[01:45] <slavik> !best
[01:45] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:45] <robbbb> what the hell is that supposed to mean?
[01:46] <sktfeelsdapper> Well I didn't like it for Windows because I could never figure out how to change the font, and when I did type messages it was real small.
[01:46] <sktfeelsdapper> Plus the buddy list was real confusing.
[01:46] <rcmiv> very confusing, this
[01:46] <sktfeelsdapper> I'd have the font set at like 34 point
[01:46] <ladydoor> robbbb: it means that linux isn't like windows--people write a lot of different programs that cater to different users' preferences
[01:46] <mipstien> after reinstalling nvidia-glx my direct rendering turns off and i can not turn it back on. but before i reinstall it there is an error on bootup about permissions with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/volatile what if any, are the option's?
[01:46] <sktfeelsdapper> And people could hardly read it, and it was the same the other way.
[01:46] <rcmiv> gparted just simply refuses to see my second sata hd
[01:46] <MakuraRyu> can I setup a raid system without having to reinstall ubuntu? thanks in advance
[01:46] <robbbb> yeah i know what i want, but cant seem to do it or find how to do it
[01:47] <ladydoor> robbbb: so there's not a ``best'' program--there're a lot of good ones, and which one's right for you depends on your preferences.
[01:47] <sktfeelsdapper> Well, I guess I'll just go forum searching for the hd questions I have.
[01:47] <robbbb> i want the mouse to jump to the focus - which doesn't seem to work with gnome
[01:47] <sktfeelsdapper> I did figure out that if I use xmms with esd, and firefox with aoss I can change the volume on both seperately and have almost no problems.
[01:47] <chrisjw> hmm im having trouble installing msttcorefonts
[01:48] <chrisjw> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[01:48] <ladydoor> robbbb: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison . you can set up rat-warping to do that.
[01:48] <feross> MakuraRyu: I'm sure you can. Not exactly sure how but all you'll be doing is mirroring your current installation somewhere else which shouldn't require a whole re-installation.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> chrisjw: enable multiverse repo
[01:48] <robbbb> isn't that a different WM?
[01:48] <chrisjw> i did :(
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:48] <ladydoor> robbbb: yeah...you were just saying it didn't work with gnome. *shrug*
[01:48] <chrisjw> then i did sudo apt-get update
[01:49] <sktfeelsdapper> !dxmixer
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dxmixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <MakuraRyu> thanks for the info!
[01:49] <weex> when a web browser does a dns lookup it should do A? first right? For some reason on my system it does AAAA?, then tries to add .domain a couple of times, then finally does the A? that's successful
[01:49] <gnomefreak> chrisjw: its in multiverse make sure you didnt enable backports multiverse
[01:49] <robbbb> enlighenment does it, but not when using with gnome
[01:49] <ladydoor> robbbb: ahhh
[01:49] <chrisjw> oh
[01:49] <chrisjw> i think i did
[01:49] <gnomefreak> !repo > chrisjw
[01:49] <weex> this happens with both epiphany and firefox so i'm wondering where this dns lookup order is configured
[01:49] <we2by> guys, how do I set the panel to expand by only 95% of the screen length?
[01:50] <we2by> !panel
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <sktfeelsdapper> dxmixer isn't off topic is it?
[01:50] <sktfeelsdapper> :d
[01:50] <feross> we2by: rightclick> properties
[01:51] <we2by> Fergy, it doesn't have the option to expand by 95%
[01:51] <feross> weex: how are you seeing that? If I type in google.com into my browser it doesn't show what it's looking up :)
[01:51] <robbbb> also. does anybody know how to change the font in gnome-panel ?
[01:52] <sktfeelsdapper> is dxmixer neccesary though?
[01:52] <weex> feross: i'm using tcpdump -n to see it
[01:52] <sktfeelsdapper> I mean I have a via onboard sound thingy.
[01:52] <weex> i'm thinking it has to do with my resolv.conf having search localdomain in it
[01:52] <sktfeelsdapper> I am under the impression that with via you can't do much.
[01:52] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: did you mean 'dmix' instead?
[01:53] <plus_M> How do I change my default sound device in Xubuntu?
[01:53] <we2by> http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrr3.png
[01:53] <we2by> running beryld
[01:53] <feross> we2by: ohh right ... well you can set it by pixels if you uncheck expand ... hmm
[01:53] <sktfeelsdapper> yah that's it.
[01:53] <weex> holy moly that seemed to fix it, i wonder how 'search localdomain' got in there
[01:53] <chrisjw> heh lame question but
[01:53] <chrisjw> where is the fonts directory?
[01:53] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: what precisely do you need with dmix? It's enabled by default for the snd-via82xx driver.
[01:54] <rubso> BREAKING NEWS
[01:54] <sktfeelsdapper> i don't know, i thought maybe that's what i needed to get 2 things to play sound at once.
[01:54] <rubso> INTERNET IS OVER
[01:54] <sktfeelsdapper> i figured out the whole sound thing, even though it's kinda backwards.
[01:55] <barata> I need to convert ogg to mp3, what's the best tool in linux?
[01:55] <barata> wav it first?
[01:55] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: you're already using it to play two things simultaneously if you haven't changed anything from the default (the exceptions being oss-only apps like adobe flash)
[01:55] <sktfeelsdapper> Hey being able to watch youtube and listen to music is a ok with me.
[01:55] <we2by> !flash
[01:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <sktfeelsdapper> flash wouldn't work for me, if i was playing music.
[01:55] <rubso> =P sorry gnomefreak
[01:55] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: you'd have to use esd or aoss
[01:56] <sktfeelsdapper> i have firefox set to aoss
[01:56] <sktfeelsdapper> and xmms set to esd
[01:56] <crimsun> set xmms to alsa
[01:56] <weex> sktfeelsdapper: i have the same problem somtimes
[01:56] <crimsun> use the 'default' device, not a hw:X,Y one
[01:56] <sktfeelsdapper> if i set it to alsa weird things happen.
[01:56] <ladydoor> !best > barata
[01:56] <admin_> what program is there for Linux that is like HyperTerm in windoze
[01:56] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: what sort of weird?
[01:56] <barata> !best
[01:56] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:56] <sktfeelsdapper> like if i turn down the volume on xmms it turns down the volume on youtube
[01:57] <ladydoor> barata: but you can use oggdec to make them wavs and then use lame to turn them into mp3s
[01:57] <sktfeelsdapper> at the same time, so essentially i'm turning it down for both.
[01:57] <admin_> what program is there for Linux that is like HyperTerm in windoze
[01:57] <ladydoor> barata: uhhh...why not just read the im the bot sent you?
[01:57] <barata> ladydoor, do you use ogg2mp3?
[01:57] <crimsun> sktfeelsdapper: again, intentional unless you use softvol or hack the mixer control
[01:57] <POVaddct> admin_: minicom
[01:57] <barata> is that okey? I dont care about quality actually, because it's a lecture
[01:58] <ladydoor> barata: never heard of it. i use mp32ogg, though
[01:58] <we2by> flash has sound here
[01:58] <sktfeelsdapper> !softvol
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softvol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <gnomefreak> barata: yes its fine
[01:58] <we2by> works also with software mixing
[01:58] <goose> i just had a weird problem that forced me to reboot. I couldn't open any new programs. the window border would display but contents were missing. Restarting X didn't solve it. i had to reboot. anyone else experience anything similar?
[01:58] <plus_M> How do I change my default sound device from the onboard sound to a soundcard?
[01:58] <barata> ladydoor it's just a reverse of mp32ogg
[01:58] <feross> weex: hmm yeah, are you using DHCP or Static?
[01:58] <barata> thanks gnomefreak
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ladydoor: your doing the oppisite with that ;)
[01:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Well, for now I guess it works better than it did.
[01:58] <barata> I'll apt-get it
[01:58] <crimsun> plus_M: System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card
[01:58] <ladydoor> barata: and it's not in the archives. you can install it from source, i guess
[01:58] <ladydoor> gnomefreak: right. i was wondering if that other even existed
[01:58] <barata> let's try
[01:58] <robbbb> just out of interest - how old are you lot?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ladydoor: his is in multiverse iirc
[01:58] <sktfeelsdapper> lot?
[01:58] <goose> 20 something
[01:59] <barata> yes ladydoor, can't find it
[01:59] <ladydoor> !ogg2mp3
[01:59] <brian98> robbbb,  about 13000 combined
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg2mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <sktfeelsdapper> I'm 25.
[01:59] <weex> feross: dhcp but i fixed it already by taking out that 'search localdomain' line in resolv.conf
[01:59] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[01:59] <sktfeelsdapper> My first experience with linux.
[01:59] <barata> let me try alien, because there is the rpm
[01:59] <gnomefreak> brb i saw something thought it was that
[01:59] <gnomefreak> barata: wait
[01:59] <robbbb> a few pure geek answers there
[01:59] <weex> i don't use dns for my lan machines here so i'm not worried
[01:59] <feross> weex: right but if you're on dhcp it might put it back
[01:59] <ladydoor> barata: it's better to install from source rather than use alien. and it's easier to use oggdec and then use lame.
[01:59] <sktfeelsdapper> I think I'll leave my sound as is for now, the way I have it set up.
[01:59] <brian98> barata: I'm into audio stuff, what was your question again?
[01:59] <weex> oic
[01:59] <sktfeelsdapper> It may be backwords but it works!
[02:00] <goose> i just had a weird problem that forced me to reboot. I couldn't open any new programs. the window border would display but contents were missing. Restarting X didn't solve it. i had to reboot. anyone else experience anything similar? <--?
[02:00] <weex> maybe i'd better look at my router than
[02:00] <feross> yah
[02:00] <goose> feross?
 barata: I'm into audio stuff, what was your question again? --> I need to ogg2mp3
[02:00] <brian98> ok
[02:01] <barata> damned! there is no more ogg2mp3 even in sourceforge!?
[02:01] <brian98> barata: your gonna need lame
[02:01] <brian98> barata: ogg123
[02:01] <brian98> barata: ogginfo
[02:01] <chrisjw> what is the fonts dir please?
[02:01] <barata> I have lame
[02:01] <brian98> barata: acutally one sec...
[02:02] <barata> can lame do ogg2mp3?
[02:02] <brian98> barata: with a script
[02:02] <feross> goose: ahh I was talking to weex .. but never saw the issue you described. did it start happening after a specific program you used?
[02:02] <brian98> barata: http://www.igso.net/nkb/Converting_ogg_to_mp3_in_Linux
[02:02] <barata> what script brian?
[02:02] <chrisjw> surely someone knows here please
[02:02] <chrisjw> whats the fonts directory for ubuntu
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to make wireless connections detected immediately on boot (i.e. not require starting Gnome first) when they're managed by NetworkManager?
[02:03] <jrib> ubotu: tell chrisjw about fonts
[02:03] <chrisjw> err
[02:03] <chrisjw> can't you just tell me the dir
[02:03] <brian98> chrisjw, use the locate command !
[02:03] <chrisjw> i don't know the locate command can you not just tell me?
[02:03] <jrib> chrisjw: ~/.fonts, but that page has more info for you...
[02:03] <brian98> locate fonts
[02:03] <barata> let me try that perl script
[02:03] <barata> thanks brian98
[02:03] <weex> i don't see localdomain in my router anywhere... feross is there a way to stop that line from appearing again?
[02:04] <brian98> barata, no worries, hope it works, let me know if you need anything else!
[02:04] <picochu> brian98, there's the man command go read up on it
[02:04] <brian98> picochu, scusee?
[02:04] <goose> feross no idea.. i had google earth open at the time
[02:05] <picochu> brian98, oops sorry it should be chrisjw :P
[02:05] <chrisjw> hmm
[02:05] <picochu> my bad
[02:05] <feross> weex: depending on what you use for setting up your network. You could have something in there that says DHCP for IP but then you have it static 'search localdomain' for DNS ...
[02:05] <chrisjw> i just want to know where to put my tahoma.ttf file
[02:05] <barata> brian98, how to use it? what's the switch?
[02:06] <picochu> chrisjw,  learn to use man and other useful program like fgrep
[02:06] <chrisjw> i know grep
[02:06] <picochu> chrisjw,  i mean find
[02:06] <chrisjw> but thanks that's very helpful;
[02:06] <gandalfcome> I have ubuntu server edition on my server, how can I configure nfs graphically. Does webmin still exist? thanks in advance
[02:07] <weex> well it's a linksys voip router and there's no host or domain name set in it anywhere even in its dhcp to the cable modem
[02:07] <picochu> chrisjw, use find to search for files
[02:07] <jrib> chrisjw: I told you...
[02:07] <chrisjw> well i know that now
[02:07] <chrisjw> but
[02:07] <brian98> chrisjw, if you want to find a file called brian from the root type sudo find / -name brian
[02:07] <feross> chrisjw: uhhm, haven't messed with fonts since I installed ubuntu but there's a howto in the wiki if I remember correctly
[02:07] <chrisjw> where do i put tahoma?
[02:07] <chrisjw> i know that feross ty
[02:07] <brian98> barata, whats the options?
[02:07] <chrisjw> im after tahoma
[02:07] <chrisjw> :(
[02:08] <jrib> chrisjw: ~/.fonts
[02:08] <feross> chrisjw: hold a sec I'll see if I can find that wiki
[02:08] <chrisjw> ty
[02:08] <brian98> chrisjw,  that means /home/yourusername/.fonts
[02:08] <chrisjw> jrib, i looked there, it showed the fonts
[02:08] <chrisjw> oh let me see
[02:08] <chrisjw> ty
[02:09] <chrisjw> tahomabd.ttf  tahoma.ttf
[02:09] <chrisjw> lol wtf
[02:09] <chrisjw> those fonts are on my desktop
[02:09] <barata> brian98, why that thing wants ide3
[02:09] <brian98> Its old and needs to be changed I would say..
[02:09] <chrisjw> but i can't use them using my fonts panel
[02:09] <dave> are there ANY webcam chat clients at all for linux? gaim-vv doesnt seem to work under ubuntu other than that i cant raelly find any that work
[02:09] <brian98> barata, I',m looking at the script now..
[02:10] <jrib> chrisjw: did you copy them into ~/.fonts?
[02:10] <chrisjw> yes :s
[02:10] <juztin> can anyone suggest some linux calendar software to keep track of bills, birthdays, etc?
[02:10] <feross> chrisjw: hmm look at this... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82318.html it should still apply.
[02:10] <jrib> chrisjw: hmm, you may have to restart the program.  Or even regenerate the font cache with 'fc-cache'
[02:11] <chrisjw> ok
[02:11] <chrisjw> ahh
[02:11] <chrisjw> nvm im sorry
[02:11] <chrisjw> tahoma is there now
[02:11] <chrisjw> ty
[02:11] <feross> oh cool
[02:11] <chrisjw> but the problem i have now is that its screwed up for some reason
[02:11] <chrisjw> in terminal, some of the glyphs are written on top of each other
[02:12] <brian98> barata, ok, lame will do it without the script, just read up @ http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.php
[02:12] <lostinc> Hi I have Apache2 installed on my laptop that I wish to use for mobile web development. What permissions do I need to apply to the /var/www/ folder in order to give myself read and write permissions?
[02:12] <g333k_laptop> hi, hw do I know the version of the pkgs avaible for edgy?
[02:12] <barata> thanks brian98
[02:12] <brian98> g333k_laptop, #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <barata> brian98, are you a musician?
[02:12] <shizu>       /discon
[02:13] <feross> dave: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Ekiga
[02:13] <brian98> barata, streaming radio
[02:13] <dave> yeah i got ekiga
[02:13] <we2by> guys, what software to use with a webcam?
[02:13] <brian98> barata, so I have had my head wrecked with codecs ;)
[02:13] <dave> was hoping for something more like icuii
[02:13] <chrisjw> hmm brb
[02:13] <dave> with a chat room interface
[02:14] <Geoffrey3> um, I need help recovering my Ubuntu install that appears to have gone "poof"
[02:14] <barata> i c ... can you introduce me to Howard Stein, brian98? :)
[02:15] <we2by> guys, what software to use with a webcam?
[02:15] <Geoffrey3> I'm getting a number of "No such file or directory" errors when trying to mount drives and directories, starting with sda5
[02:15] <brian98> barata, no worries!
[02:15] <brian98> http://www.howardstein.com/
[02:15] <brian98> lol
[02:15] <plus_M> How do I change the default sound device from onboard sound to a soundcard?
[02:16] <crimsun> plus_M: System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card   (in Dapper)
[02:16] <gandalfcome> how do I mount nfs share with gnome
[02:16] <feross> we2by: umm ekiga is for video-conferencing.
[02:16] <plus_M> Ok I am using Xubuntu
[02:16] <crimsun> plus_M: asoundconf list
[02:16] <plus_M> Ok I see my two sound devices
[02:16] <crimsun> plus_M: then tell me the output
[02:16] <dave> looking for something like camfrog,icuii,cuseemee
[02:17] <plus_M> OK
[02:17] <dave> dont think it exists though
[02:17] <dave> or if anyone has any idea why gaim-vv doesnt work with ubuntu ?
[02:17] <plus_M> CK8S and CA0106
[02:17] <plus_M> CA0106 is my soundcard that I want to use
[02:18] <crimsun> plus_M: asoundconf set-default-card CA0106
[02:18] <crimsun> plus_M: then restart all alsa apps
[02:18] <plus_M> OK thanks
[02:18] <g333k_laptop>  how can I install xfce4 avaiable for edgy in dapper?
[02:18] <crimsun> g333k_laptop: unless you enjoy weeping and gnashing of teeth, you wouldn't.
[02:19] <g333k_laptop> crimsun, there are fixes... that I must patch with the newest version
[02:20] <crimsun> g333k_laptop: which ones from svn?
[02:20] <Geoffrey2> I just turned on my computer, and Ubuntu is now crashing during startup, I'm getting "No such file or directory" errors when trying to mount /dev/sda5 on /root, /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev, /sys on /root/sys. and /proc on /root/proc
[02:20] <Naked_Snake> Sweet
[02:20] <Naked_Snake> I just remembered my Quake III Gold CDs are a PC/Mac/Linux hybrid
[02:20] <g333k_laptop> I have a ne clean install of dapper, can I do a dist upgrade?
[02:20] <Geoffrey2> it then says it can't access tty, job control turned off
[02:21] <dave> anyone using edgy beta?
[02:21] <g333k_laptop> dave, I want to
[02:21] <dave> yeah
[02:21] <dave> me too
[02:21] <dave> but im scared
[02:21] <g333k_laptop> why?
[02:21] <dave> the word beta
[02:21] <dave> frightens me
[02:22] <g333k_laptop> I'll take the risks
[02:23] <feross> g333k_laptop: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Howto_upgrade_from_6_06_dapper_to_6_10_Edgy
[02:23] <dave> you first
[02:23] <sureshot> does xgl slow down your computer
[02:23] <dave> then tell me how it goes
[02:23] <chrisjw> ok tahoma is working cool
[02:23] <chrisjw> thankyou
[02:23] <thedash> how can I look up exactly what version of a driver I have?
[02:23] <chrisjw> well tahoma isn't showing up in amsn but i can live without it!
[02:23] <Marsmensch> hi, a short question, i got the benq mobile newsletter, which says there's a software for linux (e.g. ubuntu 5.10) now. i found details on the website. anyone has a idea, how long it takes, until the software is installabl by apt? any idea how long it could take?
[02:24] <gandalfcome> In dapper I want to connect to a nfs share using the connect to server-tool. are there other graphical tools to connect to an nfs server
[02:24] <gandalfcome> ?
[02:25] <feross> gandalfcome: hmm, did you look through synaptic?
[02:25] <Marsmensch> maybe anyone here can add the package to the reporsortories??
[02:25] <Marsmensch> grrrr
[02:25] <housetier> how do I make apt NOT configure python2.4 packages (it fails because of byte-compilation errors) when I actually want to install and configure beep-media-player?
[02:25] <gandalfcome> doing it right now
[02:26] <dave> apt-get install -f
[02:26] <feross> Marsmensch: what program?
[02:27] <plus_M> crimsun I did what you said but it doesn't appear to have worked
[02:27] <sureshot> does xgl slow down your computer
[02:27] <crimsun> plus_M: pastebin your ~/.asoundrc*
[02:27] <gandalfcome> @feross: didnt find anything
[02:27] <plus_M> Ok
[02:28] <Geoffrey2> is there any chance the live CD could fix my Ubuntu problem?
[02:28] <gandalfcome> do you know the connect to server tool? but it only gives me access to smb ftp, and so on
[02:28] <Marsmensch> feross: The Mobile Phone Manager for Linux (XMPM) a software for all Benq, Siemensmobilephones
[02:28] <plus_M> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25263/
[02:29] <crimsun> plus_M: I need /home/eric/.asoundrc.asoundconf, too
[02:29] <sktfeelsdapper> Sound problems!
[02:29] <Marsmensch> feross: you can read a short info about it here under pc software & drivers http://www.benq-siemens.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,hq_en_0_130289_0_xcp%253A140777_xcs%253A130989,00.html
[02:29] <sktfeelsdapper> Hehe
[02:29] <feross> gandalfcome: hmm yeah I only see something for kde
[02:30] <housetier> I get this far: http://paste.husk.org/6844 and don't know how to proceed from there except to get the .deb files and use dpkg (but I doubt that will help)
[02:30] <Naked_Snake> Smoke tree
[02:31] <phargle> tree?
[02:31] <gandalfcome> perhaps i can use that
[02:31] <feross> Marsmensch: not sure but will System>Admin>share folder do it .. mine only shows smb but that could be because I don't have nfs installed.
[02:31] <sureshot> ware can i find the system requirement for xgl i have a 2gh proccessor 1gb mem 128video mem ati mobility x600se i systems seems to slow down when running xgl
[02:31] <Geoffrey2> could someone confirm they are reading me...just so I know I'm actually posting in the channel
[02:32] <Marsmensch> Geoffrey2: k
[02:32] <Dr_willis> Geoffrey2,  Moo!
[02:32] <feross> gandalfcome: not sure but will System>Admin>share folder do it .. mine only shows smb but that could be because I don't have nfs installed.
[02:33] <gandalfcome> yes sure I can share folders but not connect to a share
[02:33] <feross> Geoffrey2: well, is it a new install? maybe you need to reinstall. Could be your grub isn't setup right.. shrug
[02:33] <gandalfcome> i mean I try it on the console but it seems my nfs server isnt configured correctly
[02:33] <gandalfcome> I presume You don't know how to configure nfs server ;-)
[02:34] <Geoffrey2> no, it was working fine last night when I shut it down, today I turn it on..can't boot
[02:34] <feross> gandalfcome: nope... no dapper wiki on nfs?
[02:35] <crimsun> plus_M: ?
[02:35] <sureshot> ware can i find the system requirement for xgl i have a 2gh proccessor 1gb mem 128video mem ati mobility x600se i systems seems to slow down when running xgl
[02:35] <gandalfcome> i googled for it but couldnt find
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> What features should I be looking for in a wireless router?
[02:36] <david__> hola
[02:36] <gandalfcome> thanks feross, I think I will use the console
[02:37] <feross> gandalfcome: hmm well might want to give this a look ... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[02:37] <feross> just in case
[02:37] <Geoffrey2> Grub comes up, gives me a menu, I pick the latest and greatest version, I might try an older kernal just to see if that changes anything, anyway, Kernel uncompresses, Ubuntu progress screen comes up, gets to Mounting root file system, poof.....
[02:39] <feross> tonyyarusso: 802.11g and WPA ... usually all have some wireless features. I can tell you what NOT to get  D-Link ... Cheap piece of ...
[02:39] <feross> I meant firewall features .. doh
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> feross: Okay, thanks.
[02:40] <viator> yep dlink stinks
[02:40] <sureshot> netgear is ok as well that is what i use it has a firewall 4 port wired hup as well and does 64bit and128 bit wep and wpa
[02:40] <sureshot> it was 40.00 at bestbuy
[02:41] <viator> get al older linksys wep54g
[02:41] <viator> whoops
[02:41] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm, maybe the fstab is messed up.. yeah and try some other kernel. At least you would be able to get in and take a look.
[02:41] <viator> wrt
[02:41] <gandalfcome> thanks
[02:41] <viator> then install the ddwrt firmware
[02:42] <ubuntu> hello
[02:42] <feross> well, you don't HAVE to get the older ones. I think Linksys now has a more expensive model that you can install the ddwrt stuff to.
[02:42] <brian98> Feross: Zyxel are pretty good if you can get em
[02:42] <viator> feross yeah
[02:42] <sktfeelsdapper> how do i check to see if my cd burner is installed right?
[02:43] <viator> the wrt54g L
[02:43] <feross> hi ubuntu.
[02:43] <sktfeelsdapper> !burner
[02:43] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:43] <viator> l for linux?
[02:43] <viator> i think
[02:43] <sktfeelsdapper> Wait, do you have to burn mp3's into an iso to get it off the disc?
[02:43] <feross> yeah, could be
[02:43] <sktfeelsdapper> oh wait, nevermind.
[02:43] <victorr> hello all, can someone please recommend a guide for installing ubuntu with all the nifty features?
[02:44] <sureshot> ware can i find the system requirement for xgl i have a 2gh proccessor 1gb mem 128video mem ati mobility x600se i systems seems to slow down when running xgl
[02:44] <mzddarya> has anyone had any trouble with PHP session's.  phpinfo() reports everything ok, but I can't get a session variable to stick.
[02:44] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, it identifies root as (hd0,4), Filesystem as ext2fs, partition type 0x83, runs the kernel and initrd commands, savedefault, boot, message comes up "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."
[02:44] <sktfeelsdapper> but yah how do i set up my cd burner properly?
[02:45] <plus_M> crimsun I may have disconnected a while ago
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> USB devices should be pretty much guaranteed to work in Linux regardless of what they are, right?
[02:45] <plus_M> Did you catch the pastebin?
[02:45] <crimsun> plus_M: I caught the first; did you paste what I asked for additionally?
[02:45] <viator> skt what do you mean set up proberly
[02:46] <chrisjw> hmm
[02:46] <sktfeelsdapper> Well I mean, do I have to mount the cd drive, or...whatever?
[02:46] <chrisjw> synaptec has an out of date version of xchat
[02:46] <feross> victorr: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235 I think I messsed with this one but didn't do the xgl part because I don't have nvidia
[02:46] <viator> not usually
[02:46] <chrisjw> if I just download the new one
[02:46] <sktfeelsdapper> What do I have to do to put a cd in right now, and burn a cd until I can figure out how to get my other hd mounted right.
[02:46] <chrisjw> will it install it ok?
[02:46] <viator> it shoulld automatically
[02:46] <viator> in ubuntu
[02:46] <victorr> feross: thank you!
[02:46] <feross> ok
[02:46] <housetier> how do I tell apt&friends to skip over configuring certain packages so it can install and configure others?
[02:47] <sktfeelsdapper> apt and friends XD
[02:47] <sktfeelsdapper> !cdrom
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <feross> sktfeelsdapper: just pop it in.. you'll be surprised
[02:47] <mzddarya> I can't get php sessions working on my ubuntu install, does anyone have any hints for troubleshooting it?
[02:47] <sktfeelsdapper> I've got a good cd burner in here much to my surprize.
[02:48] <sktfeelsdapper> With what else is wrong with this stupid thing.
[02:48] <housetier> I want to tell it "dont bother with python2.4{,-dev,-minimal} just download, isntall and configure the others" is that somehow possible?
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> Also Nicotine latest version, the trayicon thing doesn't work.
[02:49] <Geoffrey2> feross, any idea where I might start troubleshooting this thing...
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> I want it to be a part of my drop down list in Apps, but I don't know how to configure it right.
[02:49] <viator> apt should automatically install and configure thigs correctly based on dependencies etc
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> I know there's a way, I tried it before but I don't know how to do it now.
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> Well Nicotine+ is run from python I think.
[02:49] <viator> you can make it to a dry run to see if theres going to be a problem
[02:49] <sktfeelsdapper> The only way I can start it up is from the command line.
[02:50] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm
[02:50] <viator> i guess you could do somthing with dpkg
[02:50] <gansinho> hey! How do I know if my 3D driver is working ( like if the 3D rendering is "on")
[02:51] <mzddarya> Will someone please help me with PHP config on Ubuntu?
[02:51] <BlueEagle> gansinho: You will definetly know if it's off when you try to run a 3d app.
[02:51] <BlueEagle> gansinho: If you haven't noticed that it's definetly off then it's probably on.
[02:51] <jrib> mzddarya: just say what you are having trouble with.  If someone knows how to help, they will try
[02:51] <gansinho> BlueEagle: say one...
[02:52] <feross> Geoffrey2: I think you can try booting in recover mode and check the / partition with ext fs check.. or check it by booting the ubuntu cd and runnig from there
[02:52] <sktfeelsdapper> So yah Nicotine running other than command line, anyone?
[02:52] <BlueEagle> gansinho: glxgears perhaps?
[02:52] <mzddarya> jrib: so I guess that means nobody knows, because I have asked twice...
[02:52] <BlueEagle> gansinho: or fglxgears if you're running ATi
[02:52] <w30> wow synaptic has a lot of ftp servers! which one is best for a novice to run?  vsftpd has a ubuntu icon in front of it, Does that make it better for Ubuntu boxes :=)
[02:52] <gansinho> its working
[02:52] <Geoffrey2> ok, I tried recover mode and that can't load either...I'll go grab the live CD and see what that can do for me
[02:52] <housetier> so you agree I should either wrestle with launchpad so I can report a bug or just go ahead and shoot myself in the foot
[02:53] <gansinho> thanks BlueEagle!
[02:53] <viator> i know nothing about nicotine
[02:53] <viator> whats the problem with it
[02:53] <sktfeelsdapper> Anybody know anything about Nicotine+
[02:53] <housetier> sktfeelsdapper I do
[02:53] <jrib> mzddarya: yes, no one may know that is on at this time.  You can try the forums or mailing list too though.  More eyes will see your question
[02:53] <sktfeelsdapper> It's a ubuntu question! Really!
[02:53] <sktfeelsdapper> Is it possible instead of running it from the terminal to have it in your apps?
[02:54] <housetier> yes
[02:54] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: create a launcher
[02:54] <sktfeelsdapper> Because if I close down terminal bye bye Nicotine
[02:54] <housetier> and you can even add ANY program to your menu, not just nicotine
[02:54] <sktfeelsdapper> How do you create a launcher?!?!
[02:54] <feross> mzddarya: are there any PHP irc chans?
[02:54] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: right click in the desktop
[02:55] <sktfeelsdapper> I tried that on the upper tray thing and it didn't open anything.
[02:55] <mzddarya> feross: I hope so, but I don't know much about irc.
[02:55] <mzddarya> Can anyone recommend an IRC channel for Apache/PHP?
[02:55] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: name it, then in the command type the command that you used to type in the terminal
[02:55] <sktfeelsdapper> Does it depend on python to run?
[02:55] <Rasta> ok, ready to install dapper, wish me luck
[02:55] <viator> you can create a launcher
[02:55] <Rasta> ill be back >)
[02:55] <jrib> mzddarya: #apache and ##php
[02:55] <viator> and drag it to the panel
[02:55] <w30> !cups
[02:55] <viator> if you wish
[02:55] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:55] <feross> mzddarya: try #apache
[02:56] <mzddarya> thanks feross and jrib
[02:56] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: what was the command? that you type in terminal to open nicotine+?
[02:56] <gansinho> what is *
[02:56] <viator> /usr/bin/nicotine   probably
[02:56] <viator> or just nicotine
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> it's long!
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> cd /home/skt/nicotine+-1.2.4.1
[02:57] <viator> skt did you install it from the repos?
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> And then ./nicotine
[02:57] <viator> i see you didnt
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> I think I got it off source forge.
[02:57] <sktfeelsdapper> Or whatever.
[02:57] <viator> its in the repos
[02:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Nicotine+ or just Nicotine?
[02:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Because i found the normal nicotine in the repos.
[02:58] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: so it's easy
[02:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Tell me, gansinho I'm all ears.
[02:58] <sktfeelsdapper> Haha
[02:58] <viator> whats the difference  im assuming one is newre or what not
[02:58] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: open a new text document
[02:58] <gansinho> in the desktop for example
[02:59] <sktfeelsdapper> ok
[02:59] <sethk> gansinho, I don't have any trouble doing it
[02:59] <gansinho> (I'm not a english native speaker, sorry for misspeling)
[02:59] <sktfeelsdapper> oh no it's fine!
[02:59] <sktfeelsdapper> heh
[02:59] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, of course, I don't know what we are talking about ...
[02:59] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: now type #!/bin/sh
[02:59] <sktfeelsdapper> K
[03:00] <gansinho> in the next line, tipe the first line of your long comand =), and in the second the second
[03:00] <gansinho> got it?
[03:00] <sktfeelsdapper> do i add the "cd" part of it too?
[03:00] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, live CD is up and I'm at the desktop
[03:00] <gansinho> yep
[03:00] <gansinho> all the comand
[03:00] <gansinho> I'll show you mine
[03:00] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, if you run zsh instead of bash, it is smart enough to figure out that it's a directory and it changes to it without the cd
[03:01] <sktfeelsdapper> ok.
[03:01] <gansinho> for a app
[03:01] <feross> Geoffrey2: can you mount the / partiton and read it?
[03:01] <sethk> skfit's called autocd
[03:01] <sktfeelsdapper> ok i got it all down now. Haha
[03:01] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: I'm a noob too, I discovered this editing things, but the point is: it works
[03:01] <sktfeelsdapper> nowith whatith
[03:01] <Geoffrey2> feross, do I need to do that in terminal?
[03:01] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25265/
[03:02] <sktfeelsdapper> hmmmmm?
[03:02] <gansinho> (without the numbers obviously)
[03:02] <gansinho> this is a example, with another app
[03:03] <sktfeelsdapper> oh ok
[03:03] <sktfeelsdapper> I got that.
[03:03] <sktfeelsdapper> Now what?
[03:03] <gansinho> save, and close
[03:03] <gansinho> double click it...
[03:03] <gansinho> =D
[03:03] <gansinho> (yours should be like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25266/ )
[03:04] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes, or it might alread be mounted... try  df -h to see what you have mounted
[03:04] <sktfeelsdapper> That didn't work.
[03:04] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: and ... ?
[03:04] <sktfeelsdapper> It just opens up the file.
[03:04] <gansinho> it is like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25266/
[03:05] <sig> anyone know about fonts?
[03:05] <gansinho> just like that one
[03:05] <sktfeelsdapper> yah
[03:05] <gansinho> I wrote it for you
[03:05] <w30>  anyone have any opinions on which ftp server to run?
[03:05] <gansinho> It should open it
[03:06] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: when you double click what appears?
[03:06] <sktfeelsdapper> the actual new file.
[03:06] <sethk> w30, depends on your requirements.
[03:06] <gansinho> damn
[03:06] <sethk> w30, ftp is a security problem, so do you really need to run an ftp server?
[03:06] <Geoffrey2> df -h finds unionfs, varrun, varlock, udev, devshm, lrm, and tmpfs
[03:06] <gansinho> the txt file that I said to you to create
[03:06] <gansinho> was a .txt nor a .odt
[03:06] <gansinho> not*
[03:07] <w30> sethk, novice on this end and just a home machine that needs to transfer files to internet friends
[03:07] <sethk> w30, the simplest is wuftp
[03:08] <sktfeelsdapper> It doesn't tell me what kinda file it is, and i did it exactly like you did.
[03:08] <sethk> w30, I wouldn't leave it running on the 'net all the time., though.  if you plan to do that, there are better choices
[03:08] <gansinho> I'll send to you via DCC
[03:08] <feross> w30: uhm, why not ssh, have clients use filezilla with sftp
[03:08] <w30> sethk, security by obscurity. I can shut it off if no one needs it at the moment, there are no uptime obligations.
[03:08] <sethk> w30, people on windows can install cygwin and use sftp.  (there are other windows side programs also)
[03:09] <sethk> w30, if you shut it down, then it's not a problem
[03:09] <sethk> w30, I'll look in the repos, see what's easy
[03:09] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: I've got to go, accept it, and run, it should work
[03:09] <sktfeelsdapper> It didn't work
[03:09] <sethk> w30, use tftp instead of ftp, then
[03:10] <sethk> w30, it's extremely easy.
[03:10] <sethk> w30, or, use...
[03:10] <gansinho> oh damn man
[03:10] <sethk> w30, wu-ftpd
[03:10] <w30> sethk, I have windows friends that have to click, they can't type any thing like putty in a dos terminal
[03:10] <gansinho> you should run it in ubuntu
[03:10] <sethk> w30, which is almost as easy as tftp
[03:10] <gansinho> sktfeelsdapper: I've got to go.. bye
[03:10] <sktfeelsdapper> bye
[03:10] <sethk> w30, you can set up your box as a web server, tell them your IP and let them surf to your box that way
[03:11] <feross> Geoffrey2: ok try mkdir /hda4 then mount -t ext2 /hda4 /dev/hda4 or whatever your partition is.. ALso you can run qtparted and check the partitons
[03:11] <w30> sethk, pro-ftp was on Fedora core3 and it was ok for my needs but this is now a Ubuntu box :=)
[03:11] <sethk> w30, it's funny that you say that, because ftp is the original command line way to transfer files
[03:11] <sethk> w30, pro-ftp is in the repositories
[03:11] <sethk> w30, you can install it.
[03:12] <sethk> w30, there is really no difference between FC3 and ubuntu (well, fc5 and ubuntu)
[03:12] <Geoffrey2> feross, is qtparted on the Live CD?
[03:12] <iLLf8d> sethk wow thats a loaded statement greetings btw!
[03:12] <feross> w30 sethk... not to but in but FileZilla for windows works great.. easy pointclick and all w30 needs to install is ssh to get it working with sftp
[03:12] <sethk> iLLf8d, well, it's a bit dull tonight, I thought I'd spice things up.  :)
[03:13] <iLLf8d> heh
[03:13] <eetfunk> i need to install a basic smtp server on my box.  what do you recommend?
[03:13] <sethk> feross, I didn't suggest that he use ftp, merely pointed out that it's available
[03:13] <w30> sethk, yes ftp and gopher and mincom or whatever that was on modems, ha
[03:13] <sethk> feross, I don't use it myself.  but, if he shuts down the server when nobody is getting files, there is nothing wrong with ftp
[03:14] <sethk> w30, what I mean is that ftp _is_ a command line protocol, and those other programs (like the web browser) just fake it out, more or less.
[03:14] <sethk> w30, which can be done with any protocol
[03:14] <sethk> w30, but with ftp it can be done without the windows side doing anything, I realize
[03:14] <feross> sethk: true, I just think it's a waste of time to install an FTP server when ssh is available and necessary for FTP servers so you can manage from remote anyway.
[03:14] <Bog_> anyone know what libsystem is used for?
[03:14] <iLLf8d> eetfunk, I've used postfix before dunno if its your best choice or not (although noone else is answering so) it configuration is pretty easy
[03:15] <eetfunk> iLLf8d: ok thnx
[03:15] <w30> sethk, true it's all clothing that just eats a little more bandwidth
[03:15] <Bonez56> anyone had experience with the truecrypt ubuntu package? it never works... kernel module invalid
[03:15] <sethk> w30, not really significant bandwidth.  it's just a bit ironic
[03:15] <sethk> Bonez56, kernel modules must match the running kernel
[03:15] <brian98> sethk, I disagree with you on the fc5 point ;)
[03:15] <iLLf8d> I had to sit on the phone and in a java servlet for 40 min just to tell my isp their nameservice was down =P
[03:15] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm not sure.. try it. Just drop to console and type it in or type qt then <tab> to see if it autocompletes
[03:16] <sethk> brian98, I know, but I know both distros quite well.
[03:16] <Bonez56> sethk: yeah, i have a stock standard ubuntu install with linux-686 and the module that comes with the package doesnt work.
[03:16] <sethk> Bonez56, effectively that means you have to build the kernel module locally.
[03:16] <Bonez56> sethk: yeah i think ill just grab the source and build it
[03:16] <w30> Fedora is a lot different in the init part of Linux
[03:16] <sethk> Bonez56, it's common, in a binary distro they update the kernel, and then all sorts of modules refuse to load
[03:16] <iLLf8d> I gavem a list of the servers down and told them I was using 4.2.2.2 atm (and it wasn't theirs) so whats the response after like another 5 minute wait 4.2.2.2 isn't ours
[03:16] <sethk> w30, no, not significantly.
[03:16] <Geoffrey2> feross, nope...ok, I'll stick in the System Rescue CD, I think that DOES have qtparted in it
[03:16] <Bonez56> sethk: roger
[03:16] <brian98> sethk, one for #offtopic sometime!
[03:17] <feross> Geoffrey2: true
[03:17] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I believe it does have it, yes.
[03:17] <asmandeus> Bah, can't seem to get sound playback
[03:17] <juztin> question : what do i need to fix this error?  : LoadLibrary("ref_glx.so") failed: libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:17] <w30> sethk, I kinda like the debian way better, but I never could get debian distros going until Ubuntu.
[03:18] <sethk> w30, debian's not all that hard, once you get past the install, anyway.
[03:18] <sethk> w30, the install isn't bad, just not very well documented
[03:18] <sethk> w30, which is effectively the same thing as bad, for many people.  :)
[03:18] <iLLf8d> juztin, do  an apt-file search (after you've installed apt-file and run an apt-file update) for libSDL_ttf
[03:19] <Bonez56> how do I install kernel source & headers?
[03:19] <w30> sethk, Ubuntu is great from a userability and application install point, rpm hunting is a full time sport on Fedora
[03:19] <iLLf8d> juztin, unless its installed by default I dunno
[03:19] <juztin> iLLf8d, its not, installing now
[03:19] <yanger> :| if i am connected to 100s of people via bittorrent, is it normal to see processor resources spikes?
[03:19] <iLLf8d> it'll show you which packge that should belog to
[03:19] <sethk> w30, I don't use the package managers, so it makes no difference to me.
[03:19] <iLLf8d> belong even
[03:19] <juztin> iLLf8d, its installed...what command do i use to do that?
[03:20] <iLLf8d> apt-file update
[03:20] <iLLf8d> then iirc its apt-file search libSDL_ttf (should tellya which package it'd be a part of assuming ubuntu does it the same way)
[03:20] <sethk> yanger, I would say so, yes.  :)
[03:20] <w30> sethk, what do you mean by that, do you use apt-get or just compile from source
[03:20] <sethk> iLLf8d, yes, apt-file is apt-file on any o/s
[03:20] <yanger> argh... no wonder...
[03:21] <sethk> w30, I compile from source.  I'm _not_ saying other people should do that, by the way.
[03:21] <iLLf8d> sethk, didn't know that
[03:21] <yanger> and they say downloading iso images via bittorrents are easier ;\
[03:21] <iLLf8d> actually I'm gonna install that now too since its not on here
[03:21] <Bonez56> how do I install kernel source & headers?
[03:21] <juztin> iLLf8d, looks like it's as simple as libSDL_ttf ... it's probably in synaptic
[03:21] <sethk> yanger, easier?  no.  better resource utilization on the 'net, definitely.
[03:21] <iLLf8d> sethk, seems theres no terminal based traceroute by default? only gui stuff?
[03:21] <w30> sethk, what distro do you use or have you folled your own?
[03:22] <w30> folled/rolled
[03:22] <sethk> iLLf8d, of course there is traceroute.  I guess "by default" means that with the install option you happened to use, you didn't get it installed.
[03:22] <iLLf8d> Jusztin that command should giveya a list of packages that contain  it
[03:22] <sethk> iLLf8d, but there are at least four different sets of install options.
[03:22] <SpComb> yanger: http is easier, bt is the fastest
[03:22] <iLLf8d> oh hrm were there I guess I've forgotten already
[03:23] <sethk> iLLf8d, traceroute is in the package .... traceroute!   imagine that  :)
[03:23] <iLLf8d> that gui things ok tho I was surprised when it wasn't there although nslookup whois and dig is there
[03:23] <iLLf8d> yeah I know that
[03:23] <sethk> iLLf8d, they are all "there".  some are installed by default with the install option you chose.
[03:23] <iLLf8d> I was just commenting on the fact its not in by default heh
[03:23] <sethk> iLLf8d, some are installed by default with other options.
[03:23] <sethk> iLLf8d, the point is that there isn't a "default".
[03:24] <feross> Bonez56: try 'apt-get install linux-source'
[03:24] <sethk> iLLf8d, there is nothing less "default" about, say, the server install or the oem install.
[03:24] <sethk> iLLf8d, the magic of the package manager is that you can install whatever you want.
[03:24] <sethk> why worry about what happen to be the choices for the desktop option?
[03:25] <iLLf8d> server version has no gui installed right?
[03:25] <feross> sethk: why don't you use genpoo then? :P
[03:25] <sethk> feross, that makes no sense.
[03:25] <juztin> iLLf8d, the package i needed was libsdl-ttf ... thanks for the tip on apt-file :D
[03:25] <sethk> feross, why would I do that?
[03:25] <iLLf8d> maybe thats the one I should've instralled
[03:25] <iLLf8d> juztin, np =)
[03:25] <sethk> feross, there is a bit of a difference between getting what I want in two minutes vs. getting what I want in two days.
[03:25] <barata> my ogg project is done! :) thanks to vorbis-tools
[03:26] <iLLf8d> feross yeah you really can't compare the 2
[03:26] <iLLf8d> not that ones any better then the other they're just quite different
[03:26] <sethk> iLLf8d, he wasn't being serious, I just took the opportunity to make a point  :)
[03:26] <feross> sethk: well I guess the initial install takes forever :) then you can install from source.
[03:27] <iLLf8d> sethk, there are alot of funfishers in here too
[03:27] <sethk> feross, I can install anything I want from source on any linux distro.
[03:27] <asmandeus> hmm, I can get sound running in vmware (on winxp) but not in ubuntu.. what gives
[03:27] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, qtparted is up...sda4 is extended, sda5 is ext3, and sda6 is linux-swap
[03:27] <sethk> asmandeus, configuration
[03:27] <asmandeus> funny thing is, I believe some sound was working on the LiveCD
[03:27] <iLLf8d> asmandeus, heh why not just use the native os unless you installed esx
[03:27] <feross> sethk: right... what I meant to say came out wrong, was JK.
[03:28] <sethk> asmandeus, gives you a great opportunity.  run it under vmware and get the working configuration, and change the real install to match it.
[03:28] <amicrawle> hey guys where do i add bios's to xmess?
[03:28] <sethk> feross, I knew that.  :)
[03:28] <asmandeus> that makes sense
[03:28] <asmandeus> I could screw with it to my heart's content in vmware
[03:28] <VCF> Hi there, I have a simple question, I have 2 linux server in a network via a router, now how do I share a dir on 1 of the 2 machines ? Machine 1 is a webserver, the other one is a streaming server holding a bunch of MP3's, now I have a php script that scan the content of a dir and outputs the files contained within the dir. You might have guessed where I'm going, I would like to let the...
[03:28] <VCF> ...script scan the dir on the other server. I have looked around but can't find a good tutorial how to set this up, who can help me, or at least point me to some good tutorials wich handle this kind of things. thx
[03:28] <amicrawle> where is a good place for help for xmess
[03:28] <w30> sethk, I try to install from source sometimes. Sometimes I make and sometimes I don't.
[03:28] <sethk> asmandeus, probably did run with the live cd.  that's another way to get the working config.
[03:29] <feross> Geoffrey2: can you run a check on your /
[03:29] <sethk> w30, you have to remember that I've been installing from source for about 30 years.
[03:29] <iLLf8d> VCF towards what end?
[03:29] <iLLf8d> VCF, serving them up or streaming them out?
[03:29] <Spy> Hi does anyone know if it's normal than Internet Connection work on Ubuntu Live CD but don't work after installation on HDD ?
[03:29] <VCF> Jsut listing them on the site
[03:30] <VCF> $just
[03:30] <asmandeus> when switching from LiveCD to the install I'm in, did it like, compile a new kernal minus whatever sound settings?
[03:30] <w30> sethk, Linux is not 30 years old yet is it? Unix is what? 50 years old?
[03:30] <ch4n5> Hi, I need a client to connect my BroadBand. But its available either as a Java Class file or .exe file. My UBUNTU LTS lacks gcc so I can't run either of the above.
[03:30] <J-_> when refering to an ssh public key, what does that mean? I want to start proofreading for the linux gazette and one other thing, what's a good ssh client to go with?
[03:30] <Geoffrey2> feross, FYI (assuming you haven't already figured this out), I switched over from pure Windows not that long ago, so I really don't know many of the Linux commands *YET*
[03:30] <sethk> Spy, normal?  no.
[03:30] <Spy> hum well sethk
[03:30] <sethk> Spy, your configuration isn't right.  are you using DHCP to get your configuration?
[03:30] <iLLf8d> VCF, can I query you to get a bit of clarification?
[03:30] <feross> Geoffrey2: try rightclick on the parttion for your root and look for something like check partition
[03:31] <Spy> Yes sethk
[03:31] <sethk> Spy, I'm not saying you did something wrong, just that for whatever reason your configuration  on the hard drive is wrong
[03:31] <ch4n5> can anyone say me how to install gcc
[03:31] <sethk> Spy, what's not working, specifically?
[03:31] <feross> ch4n5: hmm  'apt-get install gcc'
[03:31] <ch4n5> I downloaded the source files, how to configure, build dependencies
[03:32] <ch4n5> feross: does this work even if I dont have an internet connection?
[03:32] <viator>  ./configure
[03:32] <Spy> i don't know sethk
[03:32] <J-_> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#installing_a_package_manually
[03:32] <sethk> Spy, then why do you think it isn't working?
[03:32] <asmandeus> One of these days, I'll own a soundcard that works right outta the box
[03:33] <feross> ch4n5: gcc is probably on the ubuntu cd.
[03:33] <sethk> asmandeus, get a cheap one.  they work fine.
[03:33] <brian98> just brought home a spare brand new lappy to give edgy a quick look
[03:33] <asmandeus> I probably should
[03:34] <Spy> sethk i'm new in linux world and when i try to config the connection it don't see my modem
[03:34] <J-_> what's going to be different on edgy in comparison to dapper?
[03:34] <sethk> Spy, modem configuration can be tricky.
[03:34] <espenel> I'll think about it
[03:34] <sethk> Spy, I'm not a good person to help with modems.  I haven't used a modem in about 15 years.
[03:34] <asmandeus> I work with a bunch of music once in a while, so I ended up getting a flashy soundcard
[03:34] <viator> what does he mean by modem
[03:34] <viator> dialup
[03:34] <sethk> viator, I assumed that, but maybe I'm wrong
[03:34] <asmandeus> and it's been nothing but a pain trying to get it working under linux distros
[03:34] <brian98> J-_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[03:34] <viator> or broadband
[03:35] <sethk> viator, he might mean a cable modem or dsl modem.
[03:35] <J-_> brian98: thanks
[03:35] <sethk> Spy, what kind of connection do you have?  did you mean a dial up telephone modem?
[03:35] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to make a module load automatically while booting?  As is now, I have to 'sudo modprobe rt2570' every time I boot to use my ralink card.  Any ideas?
[03:35] <Geoffrey2> feross, I don't see any option for that in QtParted...
[03:35] <sethk> SpudDogg, add it to /etc/modules
[03:35] <brian98> sethk: they aint modems
[03:35] <brian98> lol
[03:35] <sethk> brian98, yes they are
[03:35] <sethk> brian98, a modem is simply a device that converts one form of signal to another to accomodate a different medium
[03:35] <Spy> cable modem sethk
[03:36] <Spy> i've exterbal modem on cable connction
[03:36] <viator> modem modulator /demodulator
[03:36] <Spy> external
[03:36] <sethk> Spy, how do you connect to the cable modem?  with a network cable, or a USB cable?
[03:36] <Spy> USB
[03:36] <Jas-Nix> hello, I installed ubuntu edgy and I am trying to get slab (sled10 menu) installed, I saw there is a repo for dapper, will that .deb work for me ?
[03:36] <SpudDogg> sethk: thanks man
[03:36] <Spy> my Lan is OUT
[03:36] <sethk> Spy, to start with, you'll need the usb networking modules inserted into the kernel.
[03:36] <J-_> when refering to an ssh public key, what does that mean? I want to start proofreading for the linux gazette and one other thing, what's a good ssh client to go with?
[03:36] <viator> ethernet is the way to go with neworking equipment
[03:36] <Spy> mkay....
[03:37] <sethk> Spy, you said it works from the live cd, correct?  run the live cd, and when it is running, run this program in a terminal:    lsmod
[03:37] <sethk> Spy, write down the results, and then come back and talk to us.
[03:37] <viator> avoid usb if you can
[03:37] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm, drop to console and do fsck.ext2 -h to see options.
[03:37] <sethk> viator, I agree, absolutely
[03:37] <ch4n5> feross: Does the Ubuntu LTS CD have this gcc?
[03:37] <Spy> ok thx a lot sethk :)
[03:37] <sethk> viator, but some people have a device without ethernet.
[03:38] <brian98> sethk: Sorry, but you are wrong.  DSL is transferred digitally from the computer to theCO.  The signal is never modulated as is done with modems,MOdulator/DEModulator
[03:38] <feross> ch4n5: hmm not sure
[03:38] <sktfeelsdapper> how do i delete something on command line?
[03:38] <kamui> rm
[03:38] <sktfeelsdapper> this is getting really frustrating.
[03:39] <kamui> I just pop in and Im on top of it
[03:39] <kamui> :-D
[03:39] <brian98> :)
[03:39] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, delete a file?   rm
[03:39] <viator> he said his local area network was out whats that mean?
[03:39] <tpm> sktfeelsdapper: rm /path/to/file
[03:39] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, any particular options I want?
[03:39] <viator> they are still dsl modems
[03:40] <sethk> viator, cable modems aren't dsl modems, but I don't know what point you are trying to make.
[03:40] <sktfeelsdapper> Someone needs to make a deb of nicotineplus so I don't have to keep doing this.
[03:40] <sktfeelsdapper> i don't understand why i can't just create a launcher for it.
[03:40] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, I nominate you.  :)
[03:40] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, you can.
[03:41] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, you can create a launcher for anything you can do at the command line.
[03:41] <brian98> I'm just being pedantic
[03:41] <brian98> call em what you like!
[03:41] <feross> Geoffrey2: try 'fsck.ext2 -pcf /dev/yourpartition' ..
[03:41] <asmandeus> ok now I've gotten it so that the base install, on the login screen, there is some sound of something that sounds like two tom-toms hit fast
[03:41] <kamui> pedantic is a very popular word in this channel
[03:41] <asmandeus> but this is the only sound I can get outta the machine, haha
[03:42] <RamiKassab> hey guys how do you establish a VPN connection in ubuntu?
[03:42] <RamiKassab> is it built in or do I need to download software to do that?
[03:42] <sethk> RamiKassab, you run a vpn client program
[03:42] <RamiKassab> sethk: is there one built into ubuntu?
[03:42] <sktfeelsdapper> Someone tried to show me how to create a launcher and it didn't work.
[03:42] <RamiKassab> sethk: or packaged with it rather
[03:42] <sktfeelsdapper> and then when I deleted the launcher it made nicotine not work.
[03:42] <jatt> RamiKassab: if you want to connect to a windows-based VPN you could try the pptp-linux package.
[03:42] <sethk> RamiKassab, you can load vpn client software using the package manager, if that's what you are asking
[03:43] <asmandeus> I wonder if it's possible I don't have rights to hear sound :x
[03:43] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, force checking, check for bad blocks, and auto repair (no questions)....
[03:43] <ch4n5> feross: If not available on the CD what should I do?
[03:43] <kamui> ramikassab: google linux vpn howto
[03:43] <kamui> great resource
[03:43] <feross> RamiKassab: hamachi, himachi... works very well
[03:43] <Jas-Nix> is it possible to use dapper .deb's with edgy ?
[03:43] <viator> skt the easiest way is to right click on the desktop and just put ion the command used to launch the application
[03:44] <sethk> asmandeus, the user who "owns" x has the right to play sounds.
[03:44] <sethk> asmandeus, that's the user you logged in as.
[03:44] <kamui> ramikassab: step by step instructions on setting up and connecting to a number of different vpn configurations
[03:44] <RamiKassab> feross: ok I will look for thatr
[03:44] <RamiKassab> jatt: pptp-linux is that command line only?
[03:44] <asmandeus> hmm, how come I can hear the login noise, but nothing at all afterwards
[03:44] <viator> make sure you you specify the path
[03:44] <RamiKassab> kamui: really?
[03:45] <viator> ie location where the file is
[03:45] <RamiKassab> kamui: I thought google was a porn site?
[03:45] <feross> asmandeus: run alsamixer and check that nothing is mutted
[03:45] <sktfeelsdapper> Who was just helping me there?
[03:45] <asmandeus> tried that
[03:45] <RamiKassab> kamui: oh wait that was www.booble.com
[03:45] <brian98> RamiKassab, thats poogle
[03:45] <RamiKassab> brian98: haha
[03:45] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, if you run into a problem setting up the launcher, you just create a script file that does exactly what you do at the command line, and then tell the launcher to run the script
[03:45] <SpaceFrog> How can I remove/hide things from the Applications Menu?
[03:45] <kamui> ramikassab: Well, I hope youre not acting like a putz.  I've used the howto in the past for slackware vpn help.  I just don't have the exact link to give you
[03:45] <asmandeus> Everything has green blocks or whatever.
[03:45] <brian98> SpaceFrog, applications
[03:45] <jatt> RamiKassab: there are front-ends for it. For example the knet package (I am sure there is a front-end for gnome too, but don't know the package name). You need pptp only for a windows based vpn.
[03:46] <sktfeelsdapper> I tried that, sethk.
[03:46] <brian98> SpaceFrog, accessories --> alacarte menu ed
[03:46] <sktfeelsdapper> #!user/bin
[03:46] <SpaceFrog> thanks brian98 :)
[03:46] <sktfeelsdapper> And all that other junk?
[03:46] <RamiKassab> jatt: ok I will check that out too... think I may try hamachi
[03:46] <admin_> I am using Ubuntu , how can i do something so that X does not run, and i'm just left with a text term
[03:46] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, that's wrong
[03:46] <RamiKassab> jatt: first, then see what I can find for pptp-linux
[03:46] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, there is, first of all, no user directory, it's usr.  second, you don't put the name of a directory on that line
[03:46] <brian98> amin_ hit alt f1
[03:47] <brian98> :)
[03:47] <jatt> RamiKassab: ok good luck
[03:47] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, third of all, if you just leave that line out altogether the o/s will do the right thing with the script.
[03:47] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, I entered fsck.ext2 -pcf /dev/sda5
[03:47] <RamiKassab> kamui: nah I'm just messin with ya man... I appreciate the help though
[03:47] <brian98> admin_,  sorry hit alt f1
[03:47] <admin_> brian98: ctrl alt f1 takes me to tty1
[03:47] <RamiKassab> jatt: thanks... much appreciated
[03:47] <sktfeelsdapper> Example?
[03:47] <admin_> i want X completely killed and not to respawn
[03:47] <brian98> admin_, why out of interest?
[03:47] <feross> Geoffrey2: any feedback from it? did it say it fixed anything?
[03:47] <Jas-Nix> admin_: you probably need to kill gdm
[03:47] <sktfeelsdapper> Do the files actually have to BE in bin?
[03:47] <sktfeelsdapper> I'm so confused.
[03:47] <kamui> ramikassab: Im hardly concerned.  good luck with your vpn configuration.  remember the howto if you get stuck.
[03:47] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, example of what?  edit a file.  put the line "ls" in it.  then do chmod +x on the file.  then do ./filename    the ls command is run
[03:48] <admin_> brian98: i dont really need X running, i'm just using it as a Cisco Console terminal, and its an old lappy, dont need it to waste resources
[03:48] <RamiKassab> kamui: I will make sure to check it out
[03:48] <sktfeelsdapper> i'm gonna need an instruction man
[03:48] <RamiKassab> btw, do you guys know if there is a good channel on freenode for networking questions?
[03:48] <SpaceFrog> Can i remove a whole menu item with alacarte menu editor? I want to take Crossover out of it all together
[03:48] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, put exactly what you type into a file.  then do chmod +x on the file.  then run that file.  that's all there is to it.
[03:48] <amicrawle> how to run kxmame
[03:48] <admin_> It will restart x if i kill it or gdm
[03:48] <justin_> How do I get modules to run at every start up?
[03:48] <Geoffrey2> feross, so far I'm just getting a blinking cursor on the line below it, nothing else
[03:48] <sethk> justin_, put them into /etc/modules
[03:48] <Kalisto> i have a very peculiar problem with the ubuntu installation... i cannot install grub. it attempts it after i specify /dev/**** but then fails with "Error" any ideas?
[03:48] <Jas-Nix> admin_: ya if you run /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:48] <brian98> admin_, install the server version or wait a sec!
[03:48] <admin_> Jas-Nix: that wont work
[03:49] <justin_> sethk: Alright so once they are in that directory they will always start automatically at boot up?
[03:49] <RamiKassab> I setup a network for a couple sororities and the wireless portion is having a hard time due to the heavy load. I'm running hyperwrt + thibor on linksys WRT54Gs
[03:49] <sethk> Kalisto, you need to tell us the error message, not just that it gets an error.  and you have to tell us the device name you used.
[03:49] <viator> skt
[03:49] <feross> Geoffrey2: do you see drive activity?
[03:49] <admin_> brian98: i'll wait a sec
[03:49] <sktfeelsdapper> viator?
[03:49] <viator> where is the application lacated
[03:49] <sethk> justin_, it will be as if you did insmod on them.
[03:49] <brian98> admin_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228104 does that help
[03:49] <brian98> ?
[03:49] <viator> what directory
[03:49] <justin_> But I have no /etc/modules --- only /etc/modprobe.d ---
[03:50] <brian98> admin_,  should allow you to boot to terminal
[03:50] <Geoffrey2> feross, the drive light is on, yes
[03:50] <sktfeelsdapper> it won't let me show you!
[03:50] <brian98> admin_,  if you have a read
[03:50] <sethk> justin_, I'll check the file name.
[03:50] <Kalisto> sethk, thats just the problem. i dont get an error message.. the gui just brings up a red box with "Grub Failed Error" device was external usb on /dev/sdb1
[03:50] <viator> put a spcae
[03:50] <feross> Geoffrey2: ok so we should assume that it's still working on it.. could take some time.
[03:50] <sethk> justin_, yes, it's /etc/modules.  if you don't have one, then create it.
[03:50] <viator> before the /
[03:50] <sktfeelsdapper> nope stil nothing
[03:50] <sktfeelsdapper> how are you doing that
[03:50] <Geoffrey2> feross, sda5 is about 20 GB, I can believe it
[03:51] <viator> or leave out the first /
[03:51] <amicrawle> what is a good  multi emulator  with gui ?
[03:51] <sethk> Kalisto, that's why I hate GUIs, sometimes.  :)
[03:51] <admin_> brian98: eh..kinda complex for me
[03:51] <Kalisto> sethk, i suspect my mbr is borked
[03:51] <sktfeelsdapper> home/skt/nicotine+-1.2.5.1
[03:51] <admin_> isnt there a simple way..maybe to startup in a differnt runlevel
[03:51] <sethk> Kalisto, no, because the grub _install_ doesn't care whether your mbr is borked.
[03:51] <sktfeelsdapper> I guess sethk can't read my message.
[03:51] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, what message?
[03:51] <feross> amicrawle: multi emulator .. like screen?
[03:51] <sktfeelsdapper> i sent you a query?
[03:51] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, didn't see it.  you probably haven't registered your NIC with freenode
[03:52] <feross> amicrawle: screen is a good program for multiple terminals in one console kind of thing.
[03:52] <sktfeelsdapper> No haven't.
[03:52] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, if you haven't registered your nick, it drops those requests.
[03:52] <sktfeelsdapper> dangit.
[03:52] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, not me, freenode.
[03:52] <sktfeelsdapper> yah i know.
[03:52] <Kalisto> sethk, oooh that does not sound good then.. if its not the mbr.. then well i really dont know... the partition is bootable with ID Linux...filesystem ist ext2
[03:52] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, registering the nick takes about 10 seconds
[03:52] <justin_> sethk: Well it already works it is how I fixed my soundcard, (ess) but I just forget what I did exactly ;) --- oh well
[03:52] <brian98> admin_,  If thats too complicated have a look at the gdm file in etc/init.d
[03:52] <brian98> it's what starts x I think
[03:52] <brian98> *stands to be corrected*
[03:52] <sktfeelsdapper> ok i think it worked.
[03:52] <sethk> Kalisto, grub doesn't care about the bootable flag, actually.  what you need to do is boot the live cd, then we can install grub from the command line.
[03:53] <Kalisto> sethk, ok i can do that.. its not the command grub-installer i take it?
[03:53] <admin_> I have another question, when i'm in any tty console, dmesg like messges about my wireless card connections keep coming up..how can i stopt hat?
[03:53] <rescind> I partitioned a fat 32 drive and now I can't access it.
[03:54] <sethk> Kalisto, you can try the grub install command from the command line.  I usually use the grub utility, because the gui has probably already run the grub install and it has failed for some reason.
[03:54] <Geoffrey2> I understand running games under a VM is still not overly wonderful?
[03:54] <sethk> Kalisto, but sometimes it works when you run it by hand.
[03:54] <justin_> Oh nevermind sethk, you are correct ;) -- Modules is a file -- I thought you were talking about a directory, I still forget you do not always need extensions for files hehe...
[03:54] <Kalisto> sethk, just to clarify.. what command do i run? "grub"?
[03:55] <sethk> justin_, extensions don't even exist.  the "." character is no different than any other character in a file name
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> hi.
[03:55] <sethk> Kalisto, the grub utility is called grub, yes.
[03:55] <viator> so the launcher should be  / home/skt/nicotine+-1.2.5.1/nicotine+
[03:55] <Kalisto> sethk, ok thanks for the help.. ill give it a try.
[03:55] <viator> so the launcher should be  /home/skt/nicotine+-1.2.5.1/nicotine+
[03:55] <sktfeelsdapper> it shouldn't have that ./ in front of it?
[03:55] <lostinc> Are there additional tile sets for GNOME Mahjongg?
[03:55] <sethk> sktfeelsdapper, no, ./ means "in the current directory"
[03:56] <Geoffrey2> feross, would be nice if this thing didn't run silently, just so I could know for sure it was actually accomplishing something
[03:56] <feross> Geoffrey2: true, I thought it would give you a progress bar or something :) never ran it just see a fsck come up every 30 mounts or so when I reboot.
[03:56] <myesterious> hi all
[03:57] <myesterious> hey I got err during install GTK+
[03:57] <myesterious> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fdh0hP57.html
[03:58] <Geoffrey2> well, I DO get a progress bar when the every 30 boot check takes place, but apparently this does not
[03:58] <jrib> myesterious: what are you compiling?
[03:58] <myesterious> GTK+
[03:58] <rbil> wondering if anyone here can help me with cd/dvd burning problems?
[03:58] <sethk> myesterious, you are installing from source?
[03:58] <myesterious> i want to install xfce4 and its want GTK+
[03:59] <myesterious> yep
[03:59] <jrib> myesterious: xfce4 (and gtk+) are both in the repositories
[03:59] <rbil> thing is when I first install ubuntu that stuff worked flawlessly, then I guess some update killed it all?
[03:59] <viator> install xfce-desktop
[03:59] <viator> ?
[03:59] <jrib> xubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <viator> yeah
[03:59] <myesterious> i want xfce4.4rc1
[03:59] <rlandis> hello
[03:59] <viator> that one
[03:59] <unfknblvbl> hello
[04:00] <rlandis> hi unfknb
[04:00] <myesterious> the repository has only xfce4 beta1
[04:00] <hpklett> does anybody know why the latest freetype has no matching -dev package?
[04:00] <viator> whats the difference REALLY
[04:00] <asmandeus> Ok this is strange
[04:00] <viator> is there a majore fature difference
[04:00] <Geoffrey2> feross, done..../dev/sda5: 98993/2725440 files (1.9% non-contiguous), 998299/5442010 blocks
[04:00] <viator> ?
[04:00] <asmandeus> I found something on the forum about someone having trouble with sound on their main account
[04:01] <jrib> myesterious: sudo apt-get build-dep xfce4   may help you get started.  But there is probably little reason not to use the prebuilt repository one
[04:01] <asmandeus> but after making a test account, it worked perfectly there
[04:01] <jrib> ubotu: tell myesterious about compiling
[04:01] <[Nige] > how do Install glibc2.4?
[04:01] <viator> idont what to look at changelogs
[04:01] <asmandeus> so I tried the same thing
[04:01] <rbil> or is there a more appropriate irc channel to ask about my cd burning problems?
[04:01] <asmandeus> and it's the same problem for me
[04:01] <feross> Geoffrey2: any other partitions to check before reboot?
[04:01] <asmandeus> the user asmandeus does not have sound, but has sound access
[04:01] <iLLf8d> ubotu, tell iLLf8d about compiling
[04:01] <viator> asmadeus if you cant find what it is
[04:01] <iLLf8d> heh
[04:02] <Geoffrey2> feross, well, any need to check linux-swap?
[04:02] <rlandis> mysterious I have xfce but it came as default with xubuntu
[04:02] <asmandeus> their problem was solved by deleting some file
[04:02] <asmandeus> but I can't find that
[04:02] <viator> what you do is give your test acct su prilidges
[04:02] <viator> and delete your acct
[04:02] <feross> Geoffrey2: nah
[04:02] <RedRose> !edgy
[04:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:02] <viator> and then just make your acct again
[04:02] <asmandeus> and remake asmandeus?
[04:02] <rlandis> but now i use fluxbox
[04:02] <iLLf8d> heh
[04:02] <asmandeus> damnit, why didn't I think of that
[04:02] <lampshade> fluxbox is pretty cool
[04:02] <asmandeus> haha
[04:02] <rlandis> even lighter than xfce
[04:02] <rbil> I guess not ... bye guys :-(
[04:03] <iLLf8d> rlandis, good choice but how pretty were the xfce windows? did they have rounded edges in their themes and whatnot?
[04:03] <jrib> !info libglib2.0-0
[04:03] <lampshade> I was annoyed that I had to run update-menus though and that the installer didn't do that on its own for me yar
[04:03] <asmandeus> that makes sense
[04:03] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 468 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[04:03] <Geoffrey2> feross, that's the only ext2 partition I have....then there's the NTFS partition, but I don't think I want Ubuntu trying to fix anything in there
[04:03] <asmandeus> thanks a ton for input, people
[04:03] <feross> Geoffrey2: true, just try reboot.
[04:03] <RedRose> how do I remove that message that starts with Bash about sudo>?
[04:03] <jrib> [Nige] : do you specifically need 2.4?  2.10.3 seems to be in the dapper repositories
[04:03] <[Nige] > well 2.10 would be okay I guess
[04:04] <rlandis> uh didn't notice the pretty but I'll look still have it on
[04:04] <[Nige] > i couldnt find it when i had a look... I am using dapper
[04:04] <jrib> RedRose: it only starts the first time, but I believe it is something in ~/.bashrc that comes form /etc/skel/.bashrc
[04:04] <myesterious> apt-get build-dep xfce4 isn't work
[04:04] <jrib> RedRose: s/start/displays
[04:04] <[Nige] > jrib, do I need any non standard repos
[04:05] <Geoffrey2> feross, rebooted, same problem
[04:05] <ravenous> how do i set two different resolutions for an lcd laptop screen and an external normal monitor attached to it as well?
[04:05] <acersales> hi is there any anti virus for ubuntu ?
[04:05] <jrib> [Nige] : nope, it is in the main repository
[04:05] <RedRose> jrattner1, any clue what Line, i've looked through ~/.bashrc and didn't find naything
[04:05] <RedRose> also, how do I get more desktops?
[04:05] <rlandis> if you loaded xfce and then did an upgrade wouldn't that do it for you mysterious
[04:05] <Geoffrey2> feross, it starts with Mounting /dev/sda5 on /root failed: No such device
[04:05] <[Nige] > hmmm okay
[04:05] <[Nige] > i iwll loook
[04:06] <acersales> any anti virus ?
[04:06] <brian98> acersales, for what?
[04:06] <jrib> RedRose: right click on the workspace panel applet and go to preferences.  Let me check my sudo comment, I could be wrong about the location
[04:07] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm, you could try reinstall grub but if that doesn't work your sda5 is prolly borked. Need to reinstall and use EXT3 instead of 2...
[04:07] <lampshade> ravenous: you just need the right settings in your xorg.conf.  Those settings depend on your card.  Depending on what video card you have you might not even have to edit it by hand.  For example, with my ati powered laptop, I used the ati config program
[04:07] <acersales> brian98, for linux I am using ubuntu but i doubt my internet server has got some problem
[04:07] <brian98> acersales, http://www.google.ie/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-31,GGGL:en&q=antivirus+for+linux
[04:07] <rlandis> mysterious what ubuntu you running
[04:07] <lampshade> ravenous: otherwise, you simply basically need to Screen sections.  One for your default monitor and one for the other
[04:07] <brian98> acersales, sorry for stating the obvious
[04:07] <Geoffrey2> feross, which means every file in there is now gone?
[04:07] <brian98> acersales, I doubt you have a virus
[04:07] <myesterious> 6.06 ltd
[04:07] <RedRose> jrib, ok, thanks... i know what .bashrc is and all, but i've skimmed it any found nothing to do with sudo, I'm using edgy, but i though i'd come here cause htey are all quety over their
[04:08] <ravenous> lampshade: any clue where there might be a howto? i have a dell laptop with intel graphics
[04:08] <viator> try checking for ROOTKITS!
[04:08] <acersales> brian98, my connection get flooded :(
[04:08] <feross> Geoffrey2: oh, well you might still be able to mount the drive and retrieve files from it.
[04:08] <viator> ;)
[04:08] <acersales> brian98, and it  disconnect
[04:08] <brian98> acersales, if it's a webserver you need a firewall
[04:08] <brian98> imho
[04:08] <rlandis> won't apt get install xfce work
[04:08] <brian98> *duck*
[04:08] <acersales> acersales, my clients are windows
[04:08] <jrib> RedRose: yeah, I'm on edgy too and can't find it.  But I am pretty sure it used to be in there.  What is happening?  Is the message appearing everytime you start a terminal?
[04:08] <Geoffrey2> feross, any idea what would happen so it was fine last night and is totally gone now?
[04:08] <RedRose> yes
[04:08] <RedRose> and i'm using root
[04:09] <acersales> brian98, , my clients are windows
[04:09] <viator> install chkrootkit
[04:09] <jrib> RedRose: and you checked /root/.bash* ?
[04:09] <myesterious> Ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[04:09] <brian98> well then nav corporate is about the best
[04:09] <lampshade> ravenous: that's a bummer, I have a dell with ati, I could have told you exactly how to do it in that case.  Ummm as for intel... I'm not familiar at all though I don't think it will be that different.  What dell is it?  And are you doing svideo out or ?
[04:10] <RedRose> yes, and nothing
[04:10] <brian98> acersales, avg is free though
[04:10] <brian98> and not too bad
[04:10] <rlandis> mysterious have you tried apt-get install xfce
[04:10] <lampshade> ravenous: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161830&highlight=intel+dell+external+display might be your best help.
[04:10] <ravenous> lampshade: ill take a look
[04:10] <J-_> !xfce
[04:10] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <acersales> brian98, then what it will do scan all the data ?
[04:10] <Geoffrey2> I have to say, for all I've heard about how wonderfully stable Linux is, this isn't doing much to convince me
[04:10] <viator> clamav
[04:11] <feross> Geoffrey2: I had an email server crash/currupt a reiserfs ... but that's thousands of little files writing and reading at the same time. Also one time installing windows and linux on the same hard drive screwed something up where one of the partitions became unreadable and had to wipe the whole thing.
[04:11] <myesterious> rlandis, that will be intalled beta1 but i want the latest xfce4 is 4.4RC1
[04:11] <brian98> acersales, on the windows machines yes!
[04:11] <brian98> what version of w are you running?
[04:11] <brian98> acersales, I think your looking in the wrong place though
[04:12] <acersales> brian98, i am looking for antivirus that can scan any request send from my client pc to my ubuntu server
[04:12] <feross> rlandis: talking about desktop gui's, have any of you tried fvmw-crystal. It's sweeeeeettt!!
[04:13] <rlandis> no haven't
[04:13] <brian98> acersales, then look at zonealarm or even windows firewall
[04:13] <jrib> RedRose: well worst case scenario, take a long phrase, that sounds pretty unique and grep / for it overnight :)
[04:13] <jrib> RedRose: phrase fromt the message I mean
[04:13] <rlandis> right now I'm liking fluxbox
[04:13] <brian98> or acersales go to your ubuntuserver and type netstat
[04:13] <feross> s/ fvmw fvwm
[04:13] <acersales> brian98, or do you know any graphical tool that can show me the request send by other machines
[04:13] <rlandis> neat and clean
[04:13] <rlandis> no frills
[04:13] <brian98> and see if there are dozens of connections from the same ip
[04:13] <viator> the windows clinets CANNOT infect your linux box witha virus
[04:13] <viator> they can install a rootkit
[04:13] <brian98> acersales, what viator says
[04:13] <acersales> brian98, so i can see which machine is flooding the network
[04:14] <brian98> yes
[04:14] <viator> if they know what they are doing
[04:14] <jrib> RedRose: ah, I found it.  It's in /etc/bash.bashrc
[04:14] <viator> if you think you may have been rooted
[04:14] <viator> like i said earlies install chkrootkit
[04:14] <viator> its in the repos
[04:14] <jrib> RedRose: so it shouldn't run if you have .sudo_as_admin_successful in your $HOME it seems
[04:14] <brian98> acersales, are you familiar with etherreal ?
[04:15] <acersales> nope brian98 but i have heard about it
[04:15] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, does the Live CD have a CD burner I could use to back up my data before I blow away the ext2 partition?
[04:15] <Salihu> feross: Is fvwn-crystal lighter on processors than fluxbox?
[04:15] <acersales> viator, chkrootkit does what ?
[04:15] <kitche> well if you think you got rooted there is two tools I would use rhunter and chkrootkit
[04:15] <viator> exactly what it sounds like it does
[04:15] <viator> checks for rootkits
[04:15] <viator> heh
[04:15] <brian98> acersales, you can install the windows versions or the linux versions and it will show you every packet sent and received on an interface
[04:16] <brian98> great piece of sw
[04:16] <feross> Geoffrey2: I think so.
[04:16] <Geoffrey2> note to self, start doing regular data backups
[04:16] <rlandis> anyone out there set up mutt mail
[04:16] <viator> if your kids are the ones using thr windows boxes maybe you should lock them down if your worried about misuse by them
[04:16] <kitche> rlandis: I have but I never set it up to send mail
[04:16] <viator> maybe use the group policy editor
[04:16] <J-_> buy an external hard drive and use that as a back up =D much easier
[04:16] <brian98> acersales, whats your best price on the ferrari ? lol
[04:16] <THX-1138> interestind in packet filtering or shaping? conntrack
[04:16] <feross> Salihu: don't know, it's very light tho. 1/3 the time to start than Gnome on my lappy.
[04:17] <rlandis> kitche do you just recieve on it
[04:17] <tkup> I'm currently on breezy and I've added the line 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse', updated but I still can't find qt4 (qmake v4). any idea what I'm missing?
[04:17] <Salihu> feross: Is fvwn-crystal lighter than icewm?
[04:17] <sethk> rlandis, I've set it up.  first question, though, are you sure that's what you need to do?
[04:17] <viator> fvwm is lighter yes
[04:17] <kitche> rlandis: yeah I never installed the smtp side for it
[04:17] <sethk> Salihu, I'd guess that fvwn is lighter
[04:17] <viator> with much more powerful scripting abilities
[04:17] <acersales> viator, i am worried that those who connect to my network contain viruses and worms as they are external and they cause all this problem of flooding
[04:18] <rlandis> I have n't set either side up just installed it tonite
[04:18] <kitche> Salihu: fvwm is lighter then icewm have to configure it more also
[04:18] <viator> what kind of server is it
[04:18] <brian98> acersales, I think you may be a bit paranoid
[04:18] <feross> Salihu: put it this way, fvwm is the grandpappy of a lot of other GUI's, it's all in C. Very light but with the crystal additions it's probably a little heavier than just regular fvwm.
[04:18] <viator> i mean are you a proxy
[04:18] <viator> lol
[04:18] <acersales> viator, just for sharing internet
[04:18] <brian98> acersales, and as I said a firewall!!!
[04:18] <viator> sharing your internet connection
[04:18] <viator> wirless
[04:18] <viator> ?
[04:19] <Salihu> It sounds like something I should try on a 1 Ghz computer that i am setting.  I was going to try Xubuntu, but I am having problems.
[04:19] <acersales> viator, nope
[04:19] <brian98> !firestarter > acersales
[04:19] <viator> ok how are you sharing the connection
[04:19] <Salihu> I have had problems installing Xubuntu on three different computers now.
[04:19] <viator> with EXTERNAL
[04:19] <viator> people
[04:19] <acersales> brian98, i am simply using iptables
[04:19] <rlandis> it is easier to read the computer when it is like a black background of a terminal
[04:19] <acersales> viator, iptables
[04:20] <viator> ugh
[04:20] <kitche> Salihu: what problems exactly? sicne I ran into a few myself but I fixed them
[04:20] <viator> no
[04:20] <viator> are people dialing into you
[04:20] <brian98> acersales, thats a nice gui for iptables
[04:20] <acersales> viator, nope
[04:20] <Geoffrey2> feross, how do I go about mounting the drive in Ubuntu?
[04:20] <brian98> acersales, whats your best price on the ferrari ? lol
[04:20] <viator> then how are you sharing the internet with EXTERNAL people
[04:20] <viator> you are confusing me
[04:21] <viator> i think you are saying you have a LAN
[04:21] <acersales> viator, i am sharing it locally
[04:21] <Salihu> kitche: The current problem is that Xubuntu is saying that there is an I/O error on hdc... That is not the exact message, but it is like that...
[04:21] <viator> within a building or home
[04:21] <acersales> viator, yes
[04:21] <feross> Geoffrey2: 'mkdir /sda5' then 'mount /dev/sda5 /sda5'
[04:21] <acersales> viator, yes
[04:21] <cmpalmer> I was thinking of packaging http://handbrake.m0k.org/. Other than reading http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/intro-chap.html is there somebody I should talk to or something I should do?
[04:21] <viator> oh
[04:21] <Salihu> I have checked the drive with Spinrite, and it checks out fine.
[04:22] <viator> what do you mean by flooding
[04:22] <JShadow> cmpalmer: that looks like a pretty slick app
[04:23] <Geoffrey2> feross, hmmm, Permission denied...can I sudo on Live CD?
[04:23] <crimsun> cmpalmer: -motu
[04:23] <viator> you mean they are sucking up the bandwidth
[04:23] <feross> yeah
[04:23] <Salihu> kitche: This evening, I was going to find an install tutorial for Xubuntu, but perhaps I will try using fvwm-crystal...
[04:23] <crimsun> cmpalmer: preemptive apology for the slightly disorganised wiki.
[04:23] <acersales> viator, yes and when a lot of data comes it get disconnected from the isp
[04:23] <viator> that makes no sense
[04:23] <viator> how many clients
[04:24] <rlandis>  lets try this
[04:24] <feross> Salihu: http://polishlinux.org/apps/fvwm-crystal-speed-and-transparency/
[04:24] <Salihu> feross: Thanks!
[04:24] <compwiz> hello everybody
[04:25] <rlandis> hi compwiz
[04:25] <compwiz> who likes xgl/compiz
[04:25] <zubeen> help me install frostwire
[04:26] <Salihu> feross: Very nice article...
[04:26] <viator> ubuntu is basically meant to be a desktop os you should use somthing like smoothwall or ipcop on an old machine if you want it to be a firewall  gateway
[04:26] <Geoffrey2> feross, I am presuming any folder with an 'x' in a red square next to it is borked?
[04:26] <kamui> viator: i don't buy that for a second
[04:26] <viator> you can make ubuntu what you want
[04:26] <kamui> I run ubuntu on my primary desktop dual p4s
[04:27] <compwiz> i just installed ubuntu
[04:27] <feross> Geoffrey2: hmm, not a good indicator :(
[04:27] <viator> just like most distros
[04:27] <zubeen> viator:help me install frostwire
[04:27] <compwiz> the most eazy linux install i ever did
[04:27] <Geoffrey2> feross, could I be looking at a pending HD failure?
[04:28] <viator> but somtimes its just easier to pick a distro meant for certain purposes
[04:28] <compwiz> automatix can install frostwire
[04:28] <feross> Geoffrey2: could be, it's always a possibility
[04:28] <zubeen> compwiz, i have already installed frostwire
[04:28] <THX-1138> !automatix
[04:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:28] <zubeen> compwiz, need help config it
[04:28] <kamui> I'd say Ubuntu is a linux distro that takes the emphasis off of "technical" and puts it back where I think it belongs, on the experience.  It certainly is more accessible for newbs, and coming from Slackware, It relieves the stress of building dependencies, making it very easy to get software
[04:28] <compwiz> i dont know how
[04:29] <Geoffrey2> whew, forunately the documents folder is intact
[04:29] <THX-1138> << Never trusted the automatix repositories.
[04:29] <zubeen> compwiz, what abt jre
[04:29] <viator> i know frostwire is a p2p app
[04:29] <viator> its not in the repos
[04:29] <compwiz> im a linux noob who knows some stuff
[04:29] <viator> but im sure its easy to install
[04:29] <zubeen> viator, yeah thts correct...its there in the rep
[04:30] <shriphani> i havent got the right distro for ah purpose
[04:30] <shriphani> mah ^
[04:30] <viator> its not in the repos i checked
[04:30] <viator> but
[04:30] <compwiz> i need help installing compiz
[04:30] <viator> you can get it from their sitre
[04:30] <viator> i just checked
[04:30] <viator> there is a .deb
[04:30] <compwiz> i already got XGL
[04:31] <viator> of the latest version
[04:31] <zubeen> viator, i already installed it
[04:31] <zubeen> viator, need help installing it
[04:31] <compwiz> do you have a url?
[04:31] <birdfish> What is the codename for version 6.06?
[04:31] <shriphani> i need a live cd which gives me just a command line
[04:31] <feross> compwiz: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235/co/co
[04:31] <viator> whats the problem?
[04:32] <zubeen> birdfish, dapper drake
[04:32] <Lee_> Hi, can someone tell me how to mount a windows drive onto a ubuntu live cd?
[04:32] <birdfish> Thanks =)
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Lee_,  the mount command with the proper options. :P
[04:33] <shriphani> Lee_, yer win drive is /dev/hda1 ?
[04:33] <feross> Lee_: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=585
[04:34] <shriphani> does anyone know of a live cd which gives me just a command line ?
[04:34] <rlandis> nite folks
[04:34] <Dr_willis> shriphani,  oodles of them out there.. tomsbrt is a rescue cd. thats very nice
[04:34] <feross> shriphani: slax
[04:35] <Dr_willis> shriphani,  or most all of them have boot options to just go to the command line
[04:35] <compwiz> im bord
[04:35] <efrancolaporte> hi
[04:35] <efrancolaporte> I'm a newbie and I need help but check it out guys my question is very easy & short
[04:35] <feross> shriphani: dsl is good too, just need to tell it not to load x
[04:35] <viator> yeah the freedos livecd
[04:35] <shriphani> feross, i got a dead hard drive i wanna copy files from so a distro without x would be a good choice
[04:35] <viator> lol
[04:35] <efrancolaporte> Im using Gnome and have Konqueror installed, how do i make it my default file manager
[04:36] <Lee_> feross, thanks
[04:36] <compwiz> dsl is awesome
[04:36] <compwiz> until i lost my usb stick
[04:36] <efrancolaporte> in the System preferences i only find default application for web browsing (firefox) and email
[04:36] <efrancolaporte> does anyone knows :-)
[04:36] <viator> hah
[04:36] <birdfish> Would it be alright to add a hoary hedgehog repository to the dapper drake list and install a program?
[04:36] <ardchoille> Anyone know what the yellow arrow is in the editor in anjuta? It won't go away and it's annoying
[04:36] <birdfish> I'm trying to get vuurmuur installed =] 
[04:36] <shriphani> it sure is but i need something low on rrrsources as copying a few gigs might be tough on a 'bloated' lived
[04:36] <viator> efrancolaporte goodluck on that one
[04:36] <shriphani> live cd ^
[04:37] <viator> heheh
[04:37] <kjm> stupid question.  Fresh install - on reboot I get stuck on a prompt that asks for a runlevel.......when I enter value (tried 6,5,4,3) simply get an error that states : "#Init: no mor e processes at this run level" and everything stops.
[04:37] <efrancolaporte> what you think it's impossible? :-) It can't be.... this is LINUX!!!
[04:37] <efrancolaporte> lol
[04:37] <kjm> Installed on a SATA drive (200 GB) on an extended partition.
[04:37] <viator> nothings impossible
[04:37] <viator> but
[04:38] <kitche> kjm: sounds like to me that your runlevels are missing
[04:38] <kjm> but why?
[04:38] <viator> asking to install kde file manager in a primarily gnomecentric channel
[04:38] <sethk> feross, fvwm was slick when it first came out.
[04:38] <efrancolaporte> btw i just installed Ubuntu with Automatix i fucking love it. It's so much easier than the previous distros i tried afew years ago...things have improved so much!! im really impressed
[04:38] <kjm> is my ultimate question - just installed the whole kit and kaboodle
[04:38] <feross> shriphani: yeah, either dsl or slax should be fine. THere are a couple other rescue CD's out ther but I think those are the two more known of the 'light' veriety.
[04:38] <efrancolaporte> well Konkeror shows in my internet application list and works like a charm in gnome
[04:38] <adrigen> HellO. Can anyone help me with SSH? yesterday I could connect to my ubuntu server (twice, once after reset)... today I can't. its saying "connect to host 192.168.0.100 port 22: No route to host"
[04:39] <efrancolaporte> i could just add an application button to the panel too
[04:39] <sethk> kjm, there are too many processes running
[04:39] <iLLf8d> hrm
[04:39] <adrigen> any ideas?
[04:39] <shriphani> ok feross i got dsl somewhere on a cd
[04:39] <sethk> kjm, I've never seen anyone do that before.  amazing.
[04:39] <compwiz> when will compiz be availble
[04:39] <iLLf8d> don't remember who I was helping when I left =P
[04:39] <sethk> kjm, you can't literally install everything.
[04:39] <viator> internet application list
[04:39] <viator> ?
[04:39] <iLLf8d> if you're still here and stuck pm me
[04:40] <kjm> pffffffft - no need to be an asshole.  Simply meant I installed from the CD.....so - how could there be "to many processes running" from the default install?
[04:40] <efrancolaporte> yeah, you know with ubuntu it puts all your applications by default in pre-defined folers in a start=menu like thing
[04:40] <efrancolaporte> Internet, Games, Graphics etc
[04:40] <kitche> adrigen: make sure your server is up( the ethernet and other network related things)
[04:40] <efrancolaporte> I installed KDE packages as well so Konkeror shows up in there
[04:40] <kitche> but anyways to many processes isn't the problem when it hasn't even booted yet
[04:41] <viator> ohhhhh
[04:41] <viator> i see
[04:41] <Geoffrey2> is there anything special I need to do to burn a CD under Live CD?
[04:41] <amicrawle> i need help PLEASZ
[04:41] <adrigen> kitche: what is the best way to check the ethernet? ping a website?
[04:41] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, rt. click on a folder and ask it to open with konqueror
[04:41] <kjm> kitche - yes, it is weird.  The only thing "different" I did during install was not using the default partitioning.
[04:41] <viator> well usually if you install kde apps  they show up in the proper menus
[04:41] <amicrawle> i need HELP
[04:42] <kitche> adrigen: yeah you can do that or use ifconfig
[04:42] <sethk> kitche, it can't give a message "no more processes at run level" if it hasn't booted
[04:42] <Gumby> ! w32codecs
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:42] <psYchotic> hello, I'm having a (little) problem: whenever I unplug my joystick, and then plug it in again, I need to recalibrate it. Is there any way to save a calibration file and automatically load it whenever the specific joystick is plugged in, or perhaps any other way to calibrate it when it's plugged in?
[04:42] <kjm> sethk - I could prove you wrong, as I can't get past the boot process.
[04:42] <kitche> sethk: umm it can when it is starting the init scripts
[04:42] <sethk> kitche, it has booted when it is running the init scripts, of course
[04:42] <Geoffrey2> CD/DVD creator keeps telling me to insert a blank CD
[04:43] <kjm> sethk - but, I'm done listening to you, 'cause you seem to come off as an elitis asshole.
[04:43] <efrancolaporte> anyway, no terminal command to set default file browser application or something like that, eh?
[04:43] <kitche> kjm: I'd say that the init system is broken on your install
[04:43] <efrancolaporte> (to the best of your knoweldge(
[04:43] <amicrawle> i need help   kxmame is being a royal pain in the ass
[04:43] <sethk> kjm, I'm just telling you what the message means.  you are the one who said the machine said that
[04:43] <sethk> !ops
[04:43] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:43] <Spy> sethk i'm back with lsmod list you asked me to configure my cable modem USB connection
[04:43] <rob> ?
[04:43] <kjm> kitche - but why the hell whould that happen?  Worked likfe a charm before - simply tried to move to a new hard drive.
[04:43] <sethk> Spy, how long is it?
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> How to vnc to a machine behind a NAT (or something, we're not sure but it's a uni network)?
[04:44] <kitche> kjm: that might be your problem
[04:44] <sethk> tonyyarusso, you just vnc to the public address
[04:44] <Spy> ?
[04:44] <kitche> kjm: it might not have liked being moved to a new hard drive unless you did a full reinstall
[04:44] <sethk> Spy, is it a long list?
[04:44] <nalioth> kjm: can we be civil, please?
[04:44] <Spy> yess
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> sethk: The IP she got from whatismyip.com doesn't work; it isn't even ping-able.
[04:44] <kjm> kitche - second full reinstall - and same issue with two installs in a row . . .
[04:44] <sethk> Spy, tonyyarusso that's not because of NAT.  I can ping my NATed machines.
[04:45] <sethk> Spy, sorry, wait a minute, I'm doing too many things at once.
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Okay, any other thoughts?
[04:45] <Spy> k :)
[04:45] <nalioth> !tell kjm about guidelines
[04:45] <Geoffrey2> oh, just to check, 170 MiB, that's megabytes, right?
[04:45] <kitche> kjm: ok it seems like a sata issue if any but I know that the init system is broken on your machine since I have ran into that problem a lot
[04:46] <sethk> tonyyarusso, can you contact the machine for any other reason?  can you ssh to it?
[04:46] <sethk> tonyyarusso, not pinging can be misleading because many routers block ping for security reasons.
[04:46] <feross> Geoffrey2: MiB? or just MB -> yes Mega-Byte
[04:46] <imbrandon> sethk can i help you ?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> Geoffrey2: Yes.  I think technically MiB vs MB distinguishes the 1000 per and 1024 per type, but I don't know which is which.
[04:47] <kitche> Geoffrey2: no that's not megabytes
[04:47] <sethk> imbrandon, thanks, nalioth beat you to it.  :)
[04:47] <amicrawle> WILL ANY BODY HELP ME ?
[04:47] <sethk> amicrawle, did you ask a question?  I didn't see it.
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> sethk: No idea.  She'd have to set up an account for me to try ssh.
[04:47] <imbrandon> !helpme
[04:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:47] <amicrawle> i need help   kxmame is being a royal pain in the ass
[04:47] <amicrawle> i got good roms
[04:47] <kitche> Geoffrey2: MiB is Mebibyte
[04:47] <imbrandon> amicrawle, watch the language in here please, and we need a little more info
[04:47] <Geoffrey2> feross, the CD/DVD creator says I should have at least 170 MiB free
[04:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, it's also possible that her ISP is blocking incoming connection requests for some, or all, ports.
[04:48] <amicrawle> and this is what it sayes
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> sethk: That sounds very plausible.  Any way around that?
[04:48] <amicrawle> pastebin.com
[04:48] <efrancolaporte> so... you guys know no way of changing the default file manager in ubuntu eh
[04:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, if only some ports are blocked, you can tunnel around it.  People do this to run web servers on a box when the ISP blocks incoming http connection attempts
[04:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, but you need to use another server somewhere out on the net to relay
[04:49] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, i told you
[04:49] <sethk> tonyyarusso, theoretically you could do it with vnc, also.
[04:49] <shriphani> you got a folder on the desktop ?
[04:49] <sethk> tonyyarusso, but it's complicated, so we would need to know that it's really what's happening.
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> sorry i didnt read i was browsing help ill scroll up
[04:49] <sethk> tonyyarusso, if the packets never reach her machine, it's pretty hard to determine exactly why.
[04:49] <Geoffrey2> kitche, Mebi?  what the heck is a Mebi?  last time I checked it went Kilo, Mega, Tera.....
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Link for instructions maybe?  We have very little info on the network she's behind, b/c there's nothing published, and I kind of suspect that nobody on-site even knows.
[04:50] <amicrawle> sethk  will you im me
[04:50] <Geoffrey2> kitche, oops, Kilo, Mega, Giga, Tera....duh... :)
[04:50] <sethk> amicrawle, I'll try, but I haven't used that program.
[04:50] <kitche> Geoffrey2: MiB is 1,024 kilobytes
[04:50] <amicrawle> in irc
[04:50] <kitche> Geoffrey2: it's related to the Megabyte though
[04:50] <amicrawle> prive im me
[04:50] <sethk> amicrawle, hold on a moment, let me see exactly what it does.
[04:50] <efrancolaporte> "<shriphani> efrancolaporte, rt. click on a folder and ask it to open with konqueror"                                      anyway to make it so I don't have to select Konkeror manually every time?
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> sethk: If there are any other things we could do as tests that would be good too.  (it's sparklehistory that just joined if you have anything for her)
[04:51] <sethk> amicrawle, you can pm me if you wish
[04:51] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, once you open with konqueror it should become default app
[04:51] <kjm> !pastebin
[04:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:51] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I use ssh for that, because it's easy to set up and ISPs don't routinely block it.  you can set up the ssh server simply by doing (as root, of course)  apt-get install openssh-server
[04:52] <sethk> tonyyarusso, is there any connection sharing going on?
[04:52] <Geoffrey2> kitche, interesting..in all my computer classes, that term was never used...hmmm, well, if I need at least 170 MiB, should a completely blank CD be big enough?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Would that work the same both directions?  (I have that installed already, but she won't, but could get it if we need to.)
[04:52] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the kind of thing where you have several machines sharing the same public IP?
[04:52] <amicrawle> i did sethk
[04:52] <amicrawle> did a dcc
[04:52] <feross> Geoffrey2: give it a shot, wouldn't hurt.
[04:52] <Jas-Nix> is it dangerous to run dapper packages on edgy ?
[04:52] <sethk> tonyyarusso, she can ssh to you, but that wouldn't prove that you can (or cannot) do it in the opposite direction.
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> sethk: We don't know.  She's in a university residence using their connection, which we have no details on.
[04:52] <efrancolaporte> shriphani it doesnt, as soon as i close the konkeror window!
[04:52] <kitche> Geoffrey2: yes see a Megabyte is 1,000 kilobytes where a MiB is 1,024 kilobytes but a blank cd is fine
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> sethk: All right.
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> sparklehistory: Catch the package to install above?
[04:53] <sethk> amicrawle, your nick must not be registered.  you have to register your nick before freenode will allow you to DCC
[04:53] <Geoffrey2> feross, problem is, it keeps prompting me to Insert a rewritable or blank disc....
[04:53] <sethk> tonyyarusso, if the public IP is shared by more than one machine, then you probably have to set up port forwarding on the thing doing the sharing, which is often a  cable or dsl modem.
[04:53] <kitche> tonyyarusso: it might be due to the university blocking everything to in their network it happens a lot more then ISPs
[04:53] <amicrawle> i did @ one time  for got my password
[04:53] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, lets do this step by ssep
[04:53] <shriphani> step ^
[04:54] <shriphani> you got a folder on the desktop ?
[04:54] <sethk> tonyyarusso, of course I'm only guessing about connection sharing.  sparklehistory, do you know whether you are sharing an IP?
[04:54] <axl000> bill clinton loves ubuntu :lol: http://elmundoestuyo.byethost15.com/2006/09/29/bill-clinton-lo-que-el-mundo-necesita-es-ubuntu/
[04:54] <feross> tonyyarusso: you might want to try hamachi with your school friend. That way you can get a straight connection to her pc then ssh to it.
[04:54] <sethk> amicrawle, I'm not seeing your messages, sorry.
[04:54] <iLLf8d> but did he have sexual relations with ubuntu?
[04:54] <kjm> kitche - I have pasted my partitioning scheme - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25269/  Please tell me what is strange about this that would lead to a lack of the ability to boot?
[04:54] <feross> tonyyarusso: obviously with the hamachi ip.
[04:54] <Geoffrey2> I would REALLY love to know what happened when I shut the computer down last night that so thoroughly tanked the partition
[04:54] <axl000> lol
[04:55] <kitche> kjm: I need to see your /etc/fstab also
[04:55] <sparklehistory> sethk, no idea
[04:55] <feross> Geoffrey2: it might not have unmounted properly *shrug*
[04:55] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, i see no answer
[04:55] <sethk> Geoffrey2, what file system is on the partition?  sorry if you already said.
[04:55] <kjm> kitche - I wish I could get that far ----- I am stuck booting into windows......I can't get past a runlevel error.
[04:55] <efrancolaporte> sorry
[04:55] <sethk> sparklehistory, do you have more than one machine in your house/office/wherever that connects to the 'net?
[04:55] <kitche> sparklehistory: if your on a university then you are probably sharing an ip
[04:55] <efrancolaporte> yes i have a folder on the desktop now
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Can't set up port forwarding, since she doesn't have access to the modem.
[04:56] <shriphani> efrancolaporte, rt click on it
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> k
[04:56] <Geoffrey2> sethk, the one that died was an ext2, my ubuntu partition
[04:56] <sethk> tonyyarusso, then you are SOL, unfortunately.
[04:56] <amicrawle> sethk will you pm me
[04:56] <shriphani> in the pop-down menu select open with other application
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> k
[04:56] <sethk> Geoffrey2, change it to ext3, so it won't happen again.  or at least is much less likely to happen again.
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> sethk, kitche: Oh, one data point that might be helpful: I can't send her files through Gaim, but _can_ through Skype.
[04:56] <tkup> why is it that I'm getting qt3 when I specifically install qt4?
[04:56] <shriphani> now in the dialog select konqueror :)
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> feross: I'll google that.
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> k
[04:57] <feross> tonyyarusso: yeah, works great.
[04:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, that's quite interesting.
[04:57] <shriphani> that should be it
[04:57] <efrancolaporte> it opens it with konkeror but as soon as i close the window and re-try to open it without doing the same operation it opens with nautilus
[04:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I'll have to check on what skype does before I can tell you what it means, but the answer is certainly in there.
[04:57] <shriphani> hmm thats strange
[04:57] <efrancolaporte> unless i right click again and click open with again
[04:57] <Geoffrey2> sethk, trust me, just as soon as I can get my data files (what's left of them), backed up, I'll do that
[04:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the skype server mediates the transfers, which is part of the answer but the details are the important part.
[04:58] <compwiz> how do i get compiz???
[04:58] <shriphani> sethk, would gnome love a kde file manager ?
[04:58] <feross> Geoffrey2: do you have any external, USB, drives you can copy to?
[04:58] <Geoffrey2> feross, none
[04:58] <a_guest> quick question, my friend has windows installed and would like to try the ubuntu live cd. she has a lot of music, pictures and such. Is it completely safe to run the live cd? It cannot effect windows at all right?
[04:58] <sethk> shriphani, it would work.  I'm not sure, though, how smootly it would integrate.  I suspect not terribly smoothly.
[04:58] <feross> compwiz: did you check out ->http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235/co/co
[04:58] <|thunder> !compiz > |thunder
[04:59] <efrancolaporte> in the icons properties, tab "Open With" it displays "Konkeror" and "Open Folder". I can remove "Konqueror" but not "Open Folder" and i cant seem to be able to select Konqueror's button
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> a_guest, correct
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> a_guest, as long as you are reasonable and dont delete files on purpose that is
[04:59] <a_guest> thanks, last question. could she install packages under the live cd?
[04:59] <a_guest> say like themes?
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> yes
[05:00] <a_guest> ok thanks a lot
[05:00] <compwiz> yes i did
[05:00] <compwiz> i did not see it i will look more
[05:00] <shriphani> sethk, can defaulting the file manager of kde love gnome ?
[05:01] <a_guest> so she can basically use the live cd until she is ready to install? she can install packages and such but it will not be very quick right? because of the cd?
[05:01] <sethk> shriphani, I know kde quite well, but I don't know gnome well enough to answer that intelligently.
[05:01] <efrancolaporte> whatever thanks for all the effort guys :-)
[05:02] <Geoffrey2> actually, I have an additional partition on the the tail end of the drive..about 3 GB, I could blow away that partition, format it as something like FAT32, then go back into unbuntu and just copy the files to that partition for temporary storage
[05:02] <pppoe_dude> a_guest, she can install things like normal
[05:02] <pppoe_dude> a_guest, it only takes longer to load things into ram
[05:02] <sethk> Geoffrey2, sure, but I'm not sure what that buys you
[05:02] <sethk> Geoffrey2, why format it as fat?
[05:02] <pppoe_dude> (limitations of CD drive speed)
[05:02] <compwiz> i was gonna use this giud: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[05:03] <a_guest> I see, ok thanks. She just didn't want to risk losing a lot of data that should be backed up but it's not. Just wanted to make sure before running the live cd and playing with it. Thanks a lot
[05:03] <feross> Geoffrey2: true, but use ext3 instead, you can read ext3 from windows so it's a great way to store files on a modern fs.
[05:04] <Geoffrey2> sethk, right now i just want to get my data files out of harm's way before I nuke the ubuntu partition
[05:04] <mortal5> does anyone here use moblock?
[05:04] <Geoffrey2> feross, but can windows WRITE to ext3?
[05:04] <sethk> Geoffrey2, then use ext3, vfat isn't terribly safe and also loses permissions and such
[05:04] <feross> Geoffrey2: yup
[05:04] <Geoffrey2> ah, well, that's simple enough then
[05:04] <|thunder> WTF ?    "The compiz repositories are currently broken - DO NOT INSTALL"
[05:04] <sethk> |thunder, that's pretty clear, isn't it?
[05:04] <|thunder> sure is
[05:05] <compwiz> that is my problem!
[05:05] <compwiz> it sucks
[05:05] <sethk> |thunder, they got tired of people complaining that their alpha software is alpha software, I imagine.
[05:05] <compwiz> i was wandering if there was another way
[05:05] <Geoffrey2> does the making an additional partition on the end and transferring files there make sense?
[05:05] <compwiz> to install
[05:06] <kitche> compwiz: yes compile compiz if you wish to install it
[05:06] <compwiz> how?
[05:06] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes, better than CD. Unless your drive is on it's way out.
[05:06] <|thunder> sethk; yep, seems plausable. im looking for the modified version that allows the compiz themes and all plugins. i just switched to 32bit dapper from 64. I have all the precompiled packages to install an older working version on 64 bit dapper. but moving to 32 bit is going to entail some relearning.
[05:06] <kitche> compwiz there is tutorials all over some are geared toward ubuntu
[05:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I back up to both, but I'm a fanatic about backing up
[05:07] <compwiz> i dont know how compile stuff
[05:07] <Geoffrey2> feross, dunno....I haven't had any problems until I shut off the computer last night, and it decided it couldn't boot this evening when I turned it back on
[05:07] <compwiz> ok
[05:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I don't consider something backed up to cd unless I burn two copies.
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> feross: It's telling me "TAP/TUN driver not found" (on the graphical version).
[05:07] <sethk> |thunder, perhaps the repositories will be back in a few days.
[05:08] <|thunder> sethk; the compiz in the repos dosnt not support themes.
[05:08] <acersales> hi is there any advance ftp server in ubuntu
[05:08] <feross> tonyyarusso: hmm, did you see any howto or just flinging it?
[05:08] <|thunder> i need to find the modified vesion. but i cant remember the author
[05:08] <acersales> hi is there any advance ftp server in ubuntu where ftpusers can be created and file level access can be provided to the user ?
[05:08] <sethk> |thunder, download the source, likely the name is in a file there somewhere
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> feross: I saw the README, and the web site's basic instructions, but haven't yet gone through the forums for it.
[05:08] <Blinker> i need help setting up lan file sharing with samba. i've looked over a handful of guides and nothing seems very straightforward
[05:09] <|thunder> sethk; i'l link you when i find what im talking about.
[05:09] <feross> tonyyarusso: this should get you up... http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/VNC_and_Hamachi
[05:09] <sethk> feross, does that do tunneling for vnc?
[05:10] <feross> yup
[05:10] <sethk> feross, didn't know that, thank you.
[05:10] <feross> linux and windows
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> um, this would probably be WAY to simple to be possible, can Windows XP be installed on an ext3 partition?
[05:10] <Blinker> Geoffrey2: no
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> yep, figured that was way to obvious to be workable...ok
[05:11] <|thunder> what is Beryl ?
[05:11] <Blinker> Geoffrey2: winxp wont even access ext partitions
[05:11] <SpyNet> sethk do u forgot me
[05:11] <acersales> hi is there any advance ftp server in ubuntu where ftpusers can be created and file level access can be provided to the user ?
[05:11] <kitche> Beryl used to be compiz-quinnstorm |thunder
[05:11] <sethk> SpyNet, sorry
[05:11] <|thunder> ahh "Compiz community branch, also known as compiz-quinnstorm, becomes Beryl. "   thats what im looking for.
[05:11] <Spy> np
[05:11] <VCF> Hi again, I remote mounted a path into my apache webservers root path but the ownership and group are becomming issues, what apache settings do I need to fix this?
[05:11] <compwiz> i have to wait for the problen resolvd
[05:12] <feross> Blinker: it will with extra software
[05:12] <compwiz> :(
[05:12] <Blinker> so i guess no one is in the mood to help me write a config for samba =p
[05:12] <sethk> Spy, what I would like you to do is to do lsmod on your system now, and tell me what is in the lsmod list from the live CD, that is not in the lsmod list now when the modem isn't found.
[05:12] <Blinker> feross: really? thats kinda handy...
[05:12] <VCF> Apache version is : 2.0.55
[05:12] <sethk> Spy, do you understand what I mean?  we are figuring out what kernel modules are necessary to use your modem.
[05:13] <sethk> Blinker, yes, get's around the can't write to NTFS problem in many cases.  doesn't solve it, but works around it.
[05:13] <feross> Blinker: yeah, I was just telling Geoffrey2 that I have a 1 win partition, 1 swap, 1 ubuntu and 1 main storage for both win and ubuntu. works great
[05:13] <Spy> yes i understood sethk
[05:14] <Geoffrey2> feross, what do you put in the main storage partition?
[05:14] <sethk> Spy, ok, good.
[05:14] <brian98> hilarious
[05:14] <brian98> sudo apt-get install -f
[05:14] <brian98> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[05:14] <brian98>   gaim ubuntu-desktop
[05:14] <brian98> nice
[05:14] <brian98> so it want's me to use shell so
[05:14] <feross> Geoffrey2: MP3's, images, video etc.
[05:15] <feross> Geoffrey2: snes roms, karaoke files :)
[05:15] <kjm> kitche -  interesting - but it looks like /etc was never written.  Perhaps I should just reinstall and keep /etc within the / partition and have /swap and /home separate?
[05:15] <brian98> debfoster worked!
[05:15] <acersales> hi is there any advance ftp server in ubuntu where ftpusers can be created and file level access can be provided to the user ?
[05:15] <`JB> Is there Ubuntu software to open a Quickbooks file (.qbw) ?
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> feross: Do you know if that doc applies equally to the graphical binary and cli source compiled versions?
[05:16] <feross> acersales: you can just 'apt-get install ssh' then FileZilla from windows clients and use SFTP from it.
[05:16] <kitche> `JB: you can try gnucash
[05:16] <`JB> thanx
[05:17] <acersales> feross, i need server which support ftp users or atleast give user level access to directory
[05:17] <feross> tonyyarusso: hmm, not sure. I would just do it one way or the other. I would guess that yes because the gui basically depends on the cli anyway
[05:17] <feross> tonyyarusso: sorry about three answers, was thinking while typing
[05:18] <christophe971> hi
[05:18] <christophe971> am i wrong or there's not network-admin package anymore ?
[05:18] <christophe971> on dapper drake
[05:18] <christophe971> -not+no
[05:18] <feross> acersales: hmm not sure about just ftp. I usually just do ssh and run sftp but someone mentiond wu-ftp.
[05:19] <sethk> acersales, there are several ftp servers in the repos.  wu-ftpd is the simplest, but also has the worst security implications
[05:19] <Satafterh> is the new beta pretty stable
[05:19] <acersales> sethk, i need the best for security
[05:20] <sethk> acersales, it has to be ftp?  you can't use sftp instead?
[05:20] <medic30420> hey acer sales, are you an acer rep?
[05:20] <acersales> sethk, thing is i need user level access
[05:20] <acersales> sethk, and user need to be given file level access
[05:20] <sethk> acersales, I'm not sure what you mean.  sftp gives you user level access in the same way that ftp would
[05:21] <christophe971> why can't i install users-admin on dapper drake ?
[05:21] <lba> If I install Ubuntu on a laptop with Windows XP and a blank partition at hdb, will it prevent XP from booting?
[05:21] <medic30420> acersales, give us a for instance
[05:21] <medic30420> lba: yes, temporarily
[05:21] <lba> medic30420, How do I get it back?
[05:21] <medic30420> lba, google for a iso image of supergrub
[05:22] <sethk> lba, nothing on hdb would bother xp on hda, but it's very unusual to have both hda and hdb in a laptop
[05:22] <acersales> sethk, medic30420 , for instance there is a folder or a file which is writable by a single user and others can view it
[05:22] <feross> christophe971: hmm maybe netwox, I just saw it in apt-cache search so don't know if that's the replacement you're looking for
[05:22] <Audimage> how do i unmount an iso
[05:22] <sethk> acersales, ok, both sftp and ftp allow that.
[05:22] <sethk> Audimage, umount
[05:22] <christophe971> that's very weird :/
[05:22] <lba> sethk, I partitioned it long ago, reduced the size of XP and put Slackware on it.
[05:22] <medic30420> lba, make sure windows stays on the first partition
[05:22] <dzer0> hello
[05:22] <Audimage> sethk, i have mounted a couple of isos and now i don't need them, how do i remove them
[05:23] <lba> medic30420, Yes I certainly will.  and tnx for the tip about supergrub - never heard of it.
[05:23] <medic30420> lba, then put supergrub in and restore the boot record
[05:23] <acersales> so which is the best supported for ubuntu and most secure ?
[05:23] <d3v1ant_0n3> Just a quickie (hopefully)...I'm not getting the new splash with edgy, still getting the test card design...any suggestions?
[05:23] <sethk> Audimage, say it's mounted on /mnt/xyz.  you just do:  umount /mnt/xyz
[05:23] <acersales> sftp ?
[05:23] <lba> medic30420, You mean apt-get install supergrub?
[05:23] <medic30420> lba, then go edit the boot file to make sure it recognizes windows
[05:23] <sethk> Audimage, but I'm not sure if that is what you are really asking.
[05:23] <Audimage> ok, thanks
[05:23] <medic30420> nope
[05:23] <dzer0> I just bought a new server, put ubuntu server 6 on it, and ubuntu-desktop package for GUI, and I need to know how to get started with running apache, mysql, php, and sharing a folder on samba
[05:23] <medic30420> lba, you will have to burn a cd, so you can boot from it
[05:23] <lba> medic30420, I don't know much Grub, been using lilo all my life.
[05:24] <sethk> lba, that isn't hdb and hda, that's just multiple partitions on hda
[05:24] <medic30420> lba, hold on i will give you a link
[05:24] <lba> sethk, No I have separate partitions
[05:24] <dzer0> is there just like a howto somewhere for ubuntu server?
[05:24] <Ciaus> lba logical block addressing
[05:24] <lba> Ciaus, hda and hdb
[05:24] <christophe971> feross: no netwox isn't the usefull gnome application network-admin
[05:24] <dzer0> on the install I selected LAMP server, but no idea if apache etc are actually running or not
[05:24] <christophe971> where does it go ?
[05:25] <dzer0> and I want to share stuff with samba
[05:25] <polooooo> hi!
[05:25] <sethk> lba, you mean, yes I have separate partitions, not no I have separate partitions.
[05:25] <dzer0> can anyone help?
[05:25] <polooooo> i have noticed that when the update tool updates the kernel it keeps the old one on the system, how can i delete it?
[05:25] <sethk> dzer0, you can find out if apache is running in several ways
[05:26] <lba> sethk, Sorry I was unclear.  Yes, I have separate hda, hdb and some more since the old Slack uses several partitions I'm gonna wipe.  WXP is on hda though.
[05:26] <sethk> dzer0, try this:    (sudo) netstat -nap | grep 80
[05:26] <feross> dzer0: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[05:26] <sethk> lba, I'm still not sure we are saying the same thing.  hda, hdb are two different disk drives.  hda1, hda2, etc., are partitions on one physical drive
[05:26] <sethk> lba, you have two separate physical drives in the laptop?
[05:27] <acersales> feross, which is the most secure ftp server in linux world in your view ?
[05:27] <feross> dzer0: http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10 should mostly apply for samba
[05:27] <lba> sethk, I'm very sorry.  I _should_ have said hda1 for WXP, hd1b for Linux and some others
[05:27] <Audimage> i'll give it a whilrl
[05:27] <Audimage> worked, thanks
[05:27] <Audimage> that is what i was asking
[05:27] <Audimage> i thought the command was unmount, but it is umount, that is what i was doing wrong
[05:27] <acersales> sethk, medic30420 , which is the most secure ftp server in linux world in your view ?
[05:27] <feross> acersales: ssh.
[05:27] <sethk> lba, you mean hda1 for wxp, hda2, , hda3, etc. for linux, I think
[05:28] <sethk> acersales, let me look up the name, hold on a moment...
[05:28] <lba> sethk, It's late setkh and you are correct.  I really know this <g>
[05:28] <acersales> feross, but the user are on windows so how they can utilize it simply by browser ?
[05:29] <medic30420> lba, sorry, i cant find that link, i have the iso of supergrub, it is definately the way to go over lilo, but depending on your computer's specs, look into vmware also
[05:29] <sethk> acersales, I think of the ones in the repos, pro-ftpd has the best security.
[05:29] <feross> acersales: no, they will need FileZilla. Maybe firefox has a plugin for sftp, and IE7 might support it in future.
[05:29] <lba> sethk, When I setup the laptop, I basically chopped the big WXP partition in half and reserved hda2 and on for Linux
[05:29] <sethk> acersales, but remember, the "best" security for an ftp server is still none too good.
[05:29] <sethk> acersales, because the ftp protocol sends passwords in clear text.
[05:29] <sethk> lba, ok, that's what I thought.
[05:29] <christophe971> can someone tell me why users-admin has just disappear?
[05:30] <Rasta> i just fresh installed ubuntu but im getting some problems with apt-get, when i use it i get a "Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)" message and i cant install anything, xchat was installed trough synaptic, any ideas why this happens?
[05:30] <sethk> lba, now, what is the problem?
[05:30] <lba> medic30420, Tnx anway.  I'll search.  Can I do what I want with plain old Grub?  Maybe it's time to learn it.
[05:30] <sethk> Rasta, sudo apt-get .....
[05:30] <Rasta> sethk im using sudo
[05:30] <lba> sethk, Problem is I wish to wipe hda2 .. n, make a new hda2 and install Ubuntu without messing up Windows XP.
[05:30] <christophe971> Rasta: close synaptic
[05:31] <medic30420> yeah, i can give you a copy of my boot record for you to look at, basically the only thing to learn is the different nomeclature for the partitions, hda0 vs hda1
[05:31] <sethk> Rasta, I've never seen that problem when running apt-get with sudo, because (obviously) root does have permissions on the lock file.  Is it possible another instance of apt-get, or a synaptic, is running at the same time?
[05:31] <feross> christophe971: users-admin ? I see a System>Administration>Users and Groups  is that what you need?
[05:31] <lba> medic30420, You mean the grub menu?
[05:31] <sethk> lba, oh, no problems with that
[05:31] <christophe971> feross: yes i need it
[05:31] <christophe971> on my new ubuntu install, i can't see it
[05:31] <sethk> lba, as long as you don't mess with hda1, wxp will be fine
[05:31] <lba> sethk, I'm afraid!
[05:31] <sethk> lba, back up.  :)
[05:32] <sethk> lba, back up the MBR, also.    dd if=/dev/hda of=mbrfile bs=512 count=1
[05:32] <feross> christophe971: hmm didi you check the Alacarte Menu Editor to see if it was disabled from there.
[05:32] <christophe971> E: Couldn't find package users-admin
[05:32] <Rasta> wel, its a fresh install with the first login time, i see the little icon of updates avaliable at the top bar
[05:32] <sethk> lba, in fact, back up the mbr and the early boot loader:   dd if=/dev/hda of=mbrplus bs=512 count=100
[05:32] <Geoffrey2> if I want to use cp to copy a directory and all subdirectories and files within it, what options would I use?
[05:32] <lba> sethk, An excellent suggestion.  I will back it up.
[05:32] <acersales> sethk, so if i use sftp the user can access by browser ?
[05:32] <sethk> lba, you don't really need 100, that's just a number I know is high enough.  do NOT restore with that number.  :)
[05:32] <Rasta> sorry if its a dumb question i have been away from linux by 2 years
[05:32] <medic30420> lba, the biggest issue you are going to have is that when you install ubuntu it will overwrite winxp
[05:32] <sethk> acersales, no, not without additional stuff.
[05:33] <medic30420> lba, correction, wxp's MBR
[05:33] <lba> medic30420, Is the mbr more than 512 bytes?
[05:33] <medic30420> lba, then you will have to edit grub or lilo to recognize winxp
[05:33] <surface> when i play music with xmms and i surf web and play flash, flash have no sound. i close xmms, and flash have no sound too. until i restart firefox, the flash have sound back. can this resolve?
[05:33] <acersales> ritenow i m using ftpd and the user can access from the browser ?
[05:33] <acersales> isnt that possible ?
[05:33] <sethk> acersales, not with sftp
[05:33] <medic30420> lba, not sure, but it is a fixed size
[05:34] <feross> Rasta: just click on it and it will ask for password. then update
[05:34] <lba> medic30420, The only important thing - will I be able to restore booting to WXP later on ?  I don't usually like to run it.
[05:34] <sethk> acersales, browsers support ftp, but not sftp (in general)
[05:34] <medic30420> lba, i have xp and linux dual booting without any problems
[05:34] <lba> medic30420, By editing grub yes?
[05:34] <medic30420> lba, that is where grub comes in, grub is installed by default in ubuntu
[05:34] <Rasta> feross, ok ill go step by step
[05:34] <sethk> medic30420, lba you won't necessarily have to change grub.  the kernel name is likely to change
[05:34] <Rasta> my fingers are shaking
[05:35] <sethk> medic30420, he has a dual boot system already.  he's just upgrading the linux part
[05:35] <medic30420> lba, grub has a config file that you may have to edit
[05:35] <Ciaus> umm
[05:35] <medic30420> sethk, lba, ah missed that part
[05:35] <lba> medic30420, Yes I'm prepared to edit.
[05:35] <sethk> medic30420, I know  :)
[05:35] <Geoffrey2> if I want to copy all the files in a folder, and include all the sub-folders and the files in them, what command would I need?
[05:35] <feross> Rasta: must be from the MS updates ;) .. not to worry, Ubuntu NEVER messes up updates ... cough cough ...
[05:35] <sethk> medic30420, I'm reassuring him that he won't destroy wxp on hda1 by upgrading linux on hda2, 3, etc.
[05:35] <acersales> sethk, so how to bring all these features in my ftp then o_o
[05:36] <sethk> Geoffrey2, cp -a
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> Geoffrey2, cp -a
[05:36] <sethk> Geoffrey2, tar
[05:36] <sethk> Geoffrey2, cpio
[05:36] <sethk> Geoffrey2, lots of choices
[05:36] <acersales> :(
[05:36] <sethk> acersales, you have to take the security hit, but you need to be aware of the implications
[05:36] <Rasta> oops
[05:36] <sethk> acersales, you have to make very sure that an ftp user can't escape the ftp environment and get to the rest of the box
[05:36] <acersales> sethk, i can take a security hit but the thing is i need user level access
[05:36] <lba> sethk, medic30420 Let me sum up what I _think_ have told me.  A new install of Ubuntu on hda2 will not touch hda1 but will write grub into the mbr.  I will be able to boot Ubuntu but not WXP until I edit grub.  Is that correct?
[05:36] <sethk> acersales, that's not a problem.
[05:37] <Imrahil> What is the meaning of files called core.xxxx in my / directory? They are around 17MB. They seem to be created every time the system reboots. Can find anything in the logs.
[05:37] <acersales> sethk, so then which ftp u suggest ?
[05:37] <sethk> acersales, wu-ftpd is probably the easiest to deal with
[05:37] <feross> acersales: if you are really worried about security and NEED to use FTP you should look into ftp jail-root.
[05:38] <sethk> acersales, with wu-ftp, the user has exactly the same privileges as if the user were logged in
[05:38] <sethk> acersales, but user level access and an ftp jail are pretty much mutually exclusive
[05:38] <christophe971> do every fresh dapper user have a users-admin package ?
[05:39] <acersales> sethk, what about ftpd the default in fedora ?
[05:39] <Geoffrey2> well, every email I ever had just bit the dust
[05:39] <linav> i have got wireless internet, i am running it on 5.10, it connects fine but drops the line all the time.
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, what you mean by user-admin package ?
[05:39] <sethk> acersales, what I mean by that is, if you need a user to have the same access when connected via ftp as the user would when connected via, say, rsh, then you give up the jail.
[05:39] <surface> when i play music with xmms and i surf web and play flash, flash have no sound. i close xmms, and flash have no sound too. until i restart firefox, the flash have sound back. can this resolve?
[05:39] <linav> to connect again i need to restart my machine, which is so annoying
[05:39] <Geoffrey2> .mozilla-thunderbird is gone, from the looks of it
[05:39] <linav> can any one help me out in this regard, as what is causing the problem
[05:39] <sethk> acersales, the last time I checked wu-ftpd was the default for fedora, but that was several rev's ago and probably no longer true.
[05:39] <christophe971> wickedpuppy: i mean, do you have "E: Couldn't find package users-admin" when you "apt-get install users-admin" ?
[05:40] <sethk> acersales, for a long long time red hat, and then fedora, used wu-ftpd started by xinetd
[05:40] <compwiz> i selected 277mb of stuff in snaptic then dad need to use the internet
[05:40] <feross> surface: nahh, I have the same issue now and then.
[05:40] <sethk> acersales, may still be using it, but may not.
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, i never installed a package called users-admin before
[05:40] <christophe971> mm
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> and i been using ubuntu for 3 years now
[05:40] <acersales> sethk, thanks for all the information i will try let c which work the best ;)
[05:40] <christophe971> wickedpuppy: you have the users-admin application ?
[05:40] <Geoffrey2> what does the red box with the x in it next to a folder mean?
[05:40] <acersales> bye guyz
[05:40] <christophe971> gnome application
[05:41] <feross> linav: use NetworkManager .... awsome for wireless.
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, in my system -> administration -> Users and Groups ...
[05:41] <soheil> hi
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> is that what you mean ?
[05:41] <christophe971> wickedpuppy: i just don't have it
[05:41] <christophe971> yes
[05:41] <soheil> any1 helping a chess junky?
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, it comes with dapper ...
[05:41] <soheil> I ran gnome-chess
[05:42] <christophe971> i don't have the users-admin , and i don't have network-admin :(
[05:42] <christophe971> what should i do ?
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> i dont even know the package name till you tell me
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> christophe971, install them .. of course
[05:42] <sethk> christophe971, that's not the name of the package.
[05:42] <soheil> now I wanna connect platchess.com server
[05:42] <christophe971> sethk: what's their names ?
[05:42] <medic30420> lba, after installing ubuntu, grub should overwrite the MBR, add this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25271/ to your menu.list (/boot/grub/menu.list)
[05:42] <linav> feross: will network manager reconnect my internet connection after it drops
[05:43] <soheil> plz help me
[05:43] <medic30420> lba, and that will add XP, grub will autodetect everything else
[05:43] <sethk> ChrisBradley, gnome-system-tools
[05:43] <linav> feross: or in the first place does it also drop the line
[05:43] <sethk> sorry
[05:43] <sethk> christophe971, gnome-system-tools
[05:43] <sethk> ChrisBradley, sorry, tab completion  :)
[05:43] <soheil> how to run an exe file?
[05:43] <Geoffrey2> can anyone tell me what a little red box with a white x in it at the upper right hand corner of a folder means?
[05:43] <medic30420> lba, hda1 = hd0,0
[05:43] <christophe971> woot
[05:43] <feross> linav: go to here for a quick howto setup. http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com/..
[05:43] <christophe971> sethk: thanks a lot
[05:43] <sethk> soheil, exe files run in windows.
[05:43] <sethk> christophe971, np
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> soheil, wine
[05:44] <sethk> soheil, you can run a windows emulator in linux, such as wine
[05:44] <feross> linav: well I'm not sure if it will resolve your problems but I've tried several programs for wireless and that one works the best IMHO.
[05:44] <sethk> soheil, but you can't run a windows executable directly.
[05:44] <linav> feross: thank you
[05:44] <feross> soheil: with wine
[05:45] <feross> oh dahh didn't see reply
[05:45] <lba> medic30420, I have a long dist call from wife.  Be back ASAP.
[05:45] <Ciaus> woo hoo!
[05:45] <Ciaus> wrong channel sorry
[05:45] <soheil> I wine'd it
[05:45] <feross> Geoffrey2: email is not that important. Prolly all spam anyway ;)
[05:46] <soheil> it's name is warrior
[05:46] <harisund> Anybody running Ubuntu under VMware in Windows here? I am trying to get Edgy Beta under VMware, and everything is fine. Just one question. How do I transfer files? Right now, I am using scp...
[05:46] <soheil> as I see it when running ls
[05:46] <feross> soheil: using blitz?
[05:46] <soheil> pardon me?
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> feross, so the x means the folder is basically gone?
[05:47] <feross> soheil: the chess program you're trying to run.. blitz?
[05:47] <soheil> no
[05:47] <soheil> warrior
[05:47] <sethk> soheil, the gnu chess program is quite respectable, and doesn't need wine  :)
[05:47] <soheil> I downloaded it
[05:47] <feross> Geoffrey2: I guess, the copy to the other partition didn't work?
[05:47] <soheil> what's the name?
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> harisund, scp -r file1 user@host:.  ... i suggest man scp for more info ..
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> you can set port and such
[05:48] <soheil> http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl
[05:48] <Spy> sethk i've looked both lsmod lists to see what's different about USB connection
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> no, the copy worked....I'd just hate to lose all that email if it's not necesarry
[05:48] <sethk> Spy, ok, and ?
[05:48] <feross> harisund: hmm tried samba?
[05:49] <Geoffrey2> feross, just curious that nobody in here can tell me what that symbol is telling me.....
[05:49] <sethk> Geoffrey2, what's the symbol?
[05:49] <IcemanV9> harisund: set "shared documents" to be shared (winxp); in edgy, places > network servers, look for your winxp server
[05:50] <Geoffrey2> sethk, red box with a white x inside it, it's at the upper right hand corner of multiple files and folders
[05:50] <soheil> gnome-chess sucks
[05:50] <d3v1ant_0n3> Geoffrey2: if the symbol is like I think, it just means that Gnome hasn't got an icon for it
[05:50] <sethk> soheil, sounds like you'll be better off in windows, then, at least for chess.
[05:50] <d3v1ant_0n3> I think
[05:50] <soheil> I can't connect too the server  via it
[05:50] <IcemanV9> how can i stop "join/part" notices?? /ignore something?
[05:51] <sethk> Geoffrey2, and you see this where?
[05:51] <harisund> wickedpuppy: scp works fine. I use that. feross and IcemanV9 I am trying to use samba. The funny thing is, I am not able to 'mount' but am able to browse using smbclient ..
[05:51] <junmin> hi, can somebody recommend me some tutorial/books/web sites about the server administration(web server, web hosting)?? please
[05:51] <sethk> IcemanV9, on xchat you can right click on the tab for the channel
[05:51] <wood> Hi ! I made a mistake ! I have deleted the line root in the /etc/passwd is there any way to be able to create back the root in the ubuntu ?
[05:51] <soheil> seth------------->I wanna be a ubuntu user
[05:51] <Geoffrey2> sethk, in my Home folder.....
[05:51] <Spy> sethk on live cd modeule usbnet used by 1 cdc ether don't appear on my hdd uduntu installation lsmod list and on the installation lsmod list from my hdd i can see module usbcore used by 2 ohci_hcd that i don't see in live-cd lsmod list
[05:51] <soheil> it's free
[05:51] <sethk> wood, sure, just put the line back in.
[05:51] <wood> sethk: cant it says .. permission denied
[05:52] <sethk> wood,use sudo with the edit command
[05:52] <sethk> wood, back up the file first
[05:52] <wood> ok ill try
[05:52] <sethk> Spy, ok, you definitely need to insmod usbnet
[05:52] <sethk> Spy, do   modprobe usbnet
[05:52] <sethk> Spy, that should pull in all the other modules that usbnet needs, as well as usbnet
[05:52] <w30> wood: see if you have a passwd- file. that is a Ubuntu created backup file.
[05:52] <IcemanV9> harisund: yea. you don't have to mount it at all. that's the beauty of it. :)
[05:52] <sethk> Spy, you must run insmod as root (or with sudo)
[05:53] <Spy> k
[05:53] <Spy> and ...
[05:53] <feross> soheil: warrior doesn't work. I think blitz only connects to it's irc network but it's a good program and I've used it in the past in linux with wine.
[05:53] <sethk> w30, good point.
[05:53] <w30> wood: if you do then sudo cat passwd- > passwd
[05:53] <feross> soheil: did  you install warrior before trying to use it?
[05:53] <wood> w30 ok ill try now
[05:53] <sethk> wood, back up the current file first.  make a copy of it somewhere.  sudo cp /etc/passwd /root
[05:54] <sethk> wood, e.g.
[05:54] <soheil> Does it connect to the playchess server?
[05:54] <sethk> Spy, after you do that, run the network administration tool
[05:54] <soheil> how to install it?
[05:54] <wood> w30 -bash: passwd: Permission denied
[05:54] <digit> hi all
[05:54] <foureight84> anyone here using gaim2 beta 3?
[05:54] <sethk> Spy, hopefully you'll see the interface, and be able to highlight it and click on activate
[05:54] <surface> when i play music with xmms and i surf web and play flash, flash have no sound. i close xmms, and flash have no sound too. until i restart firefox, the flash have sound back. can this resolve?
[05:54] <sethk> Spy, if that doesn't work, add usbnet to /etc/modules and reboot
[05:54] <foureight84> i don't know how to enable esc to close chat windows
[05:55] <digit> anyone here use the new edgy?
[05:55] <sethk> Spy, in fact, add usbnet to /etc/modules anyway.
[05:55] <jtholmes> wood try  sudo su   see if you get a   #
[05:55] <feross> soheil: you need to run 'wine setupwarrior.exe' first.. then run the exe that installs under your ~./wine directory
[05:55] <w30> wood: you gotta put sudo in front of cat
[05:55] <sethk> Spy, you don't want to have to insmod it every time you boot.
[05:55] <soheil> How ti installl warrior?
[05:55] <feross> I mean .wine
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> ok, forget it...I'll just write the whole thing off, blow away the partition, and start over again.....
[05:55] <sethk> Spy, if you are lucky, after adding usbnet to /etc/modules and rebooting, your network will magically appear.  :)
[05:55] <Spy> ok thx a lot sethk :)
[05:55] <wood> w30: when i do sudo su .. sudo: no passwd entry for root!
[05:56] <w30> wood: if you lost sudo then do it from a Ubuntu live cd boot
[05:56] <Geoffrey2> can I leave the current linux-swap partition as is?
[05:56] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes
[05:56] <lba> medic30420, OK I"m back and have read what you wrote before.  I should be able to do this - but it will be tmw.  Thank you very much for your help and advice.
[05:56] <shriphani> would visudo help ?
[05:56] <wood> w30 ok i have the cd but what is the procedure exactly ?
[05:56] <shriphani> cuz if you are there in /etc/sudoers you should have sudo access
[05:57] <medic30420> lba, no problem, but dl and burn supergrub, incase everything goes fubar you can boot anything from it
[05:57] <feross> soheil: you need to find the warrior installation file. then from the console execute it with wine.
[05:57] <sethk> lba, and don't forget to back up the mbr
[05:57] <wood> w30: you want me to reboot on the cd
[05:57] <feross> soheil: you will see the installation as if you were running windows
[05:57] <bobbb> is there a helpfile somewhere that will assist me in configuring my soundblaster audigy card.  I've played around a bit and can't get sound
[05:57] <w30> wood: boot the live cd or any rescue cd then mount the Ubuntu partition and then go to mountpoint/etc/and cat passwd- > passwd
[05:58] <jtholmes> wood do  a df -k  and make sure where  root is mounted
[05:58] <lba> sethk, Yes and thank you too.  You guys hang around this room much?
[05:58] <feross> soheil: the thing with wine is that it puts all of the fake windows installation under your home directory under the .wine/ directory
[05:58] <[koji] > how do i run 2 commands concurrently?
[05:58] <wood> w30 : ok thanks
[05:58] <shriphani> Koffa, open two terminals
[05:58] <Geoffrey2> oh, if the partition is already there, can I simply put the Live CD in and have it reformat the existing partition?
[05:58] <feross> [koji] : you mean like this  command1 && command2
[05:59] <feross> Geoffrey2: yeah
[05:59] <jtholmes> kojil or   command ;  command  but they will never be concurrent but close
[05:59] <Geoffrey2> feross, during the install process?
[05:59] <feross> Geoffrey2: just remember to change it to an EXT3
[06:00] <[koji] > feross will they be on their on pid?
[06:00] <soheil> setupcan't install warrior
[06:00] <soheil> :((
[06:00] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes during install
[06:00] <[koji] > jtholmes, that is sequential
[06:01] <feross> soheil: hmm did you run winecfg L
[06:01] <harisund> what are the primary differences between ext3 and ext2? What are each one's advantages over the other?
[06:01] <jtholmes> wood  run live cd;  open konsole window;  mount  /dev/hdXX /mnt;  edit /mnt/etc/passwd   add  root   ;   reboot
[06:01] <feross> [koji] : yes own pid
[06:01] <viator> anyone use songbird?
[06:02] <soheil> no
[06:02] <briguyd> harisund, ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2, and basically adds journaling to ext2
[06:02] <viator> im using the o.2 version and for beta software seems to run rather smoothly
[06:02] <viator> i like it
[06:02] <briguyd> viator, is it stable?
[06:02] <viator> briguyd so far yes
[06:03] <briguyd> how fast does it run?
[06:03] <feross> soheil: you should run winecfg first to make sure everything is configured correctly
[06:03] <soheil> OK
[06:03] <viator> ive put it through the ringers and so far it only was a little laggy at worst
[06:03] <d3v1ant_0n3> soheil: If you run Synaptic and search for chess, there are a whole load of chess games available
[06:03] <feross> soheil: do it under your own user not sudo winecfg or anything like that
[06:03] <junmin> hi, can somebody recommend me some tutorial/books/web sites about the server administration(web server, web hosting)?? please
[06:03] <briguyd> viator, any reason to switch now?
[06:04] <jtholmes> jummin  www.apache.org  has a lot of good info,  also  google  apache config
[06:04] <viator> well i like how it snags all the av stuff from websites/blogs
[06:05] <wood> w30: Amazing it works fine !! have replace the passwd from the passwd- and everything is ok
[06:05] <rain_man> greetings one and all
[06:05] <wood> w30: that's cool !! :) thanks again my friend
[06:05] <viator> one thing that is kinda buggy though is when you minimize it has a slim floating bar and the mouse over is kinda off
[06:06] <Imrahil> What is the meaning of files called core.xxxx in my / directory? They are around 17MB. They seem to be created every time the system reboots. Can find anything in the logs.
[06:06] <w30> wood: I did that too so I been there done that ha!
[06:06] <briguyd> viator, when its a bit more polished, ill consider it, but between it not being absolutely stable and me being on slow, slow hardware, ill wait a bit
[06:06] <jtholmes> imahil  run  file  core.xxxx  to see what is core dumping
[06:06] <cherubiel> Imrahil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_dump
[06:06] <tkup> Imrahil, they are images of the process that just accidently crashed. xxx represents the pid of the process before it crashed
[06:07] <wood> w30: this is the way we learn more when we make some errors ;) thanks a lot for your help !
[06:07] <feross> junmin: do you want a tutorial on how to setup a linux server or a general book on hey, this is linux and what you can do with it?
[06:07] <briguyd> anyone use ReiserFS?
[06:07] <dzer0_> hey
[06:07] <dzer0_> I got apache running
[06:07] <dzer0_> but now I want to have an ftpd and some samba sharing
[06:07] <viator> yeah if you dont want to use it as a day to day media player i wouldnt blame you
[06:08] <dzer0_> and a vnc server would be nice
[06:08] <viator> but if you just want to mess around and test it
[06:08] <viator> go fo it
[06:08] <brian98> just installed gaim 2 beta
[06:08] <brian98> very nice
[06:08] <briguyd> yeah, thanks
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> brian98, join the club
[06:08] <cherubiel> dzer0_: vsftpd for ftp, samba and vncserver
[06:08] <wood> w30: buy the way do you know  a little about apache2 ?
[06:08] <briguyd> brian98, how did you install it?
[06:08] <viator> gaim 2 comes with edgy
[06:08] <viator> i thought
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> briguyd, they have repos
[06:08] <brian98> briguyd, give me two secs
[06:08] <Parabola> Hey I'm having an issue mounting an NTFS partition, i cant seem to change the permissions on the folder as its read only
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> Parabola --> #ubuntu
[06:09] <Parabola> ?
[06:09] <feross> junmin: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz this is an oldie but I think still good.
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:09] <w30> wood: I guess you are buying the next round of beers then......
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> im such a hypocrite
[06:09] <Parabola> its mounted, and root can open it
[06:09] <Parabola> but even if i chown the mount folder, users cant see it
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, i believe usually ntfs only mounts read only
[06:09] <dzer0_> cherubiel: ok I just apt-get install vsftpd and now what how do I configure it
[06:09] <IcemanV9> |thunder: how so?
[06:09] <brian98> briguyd, add deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse to your repos..
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> oh
[06:09] <Parabola> yes i know
[06:09] <briguyd> pppoe_dude, theres a way to make it read/write i think
[06:10] <cherubiel> Parabola: whats the fstab entry?
[06:10] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  im not writing to it
[06:10] <Parabola> but i cant give permissions to mount point either
[06:10] <Parabola> cherubiel,  one sec
[06:10] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, chmod 777 <mount point>
[06:10] <briguyd> Parabola, check ubuntuguide.org , i think they have a tutorial on read/write NTFS
[06:10] <brian98> or anyone else who wants gaim2
[06:10] <brian98> add deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse to your repos..
[06:10] <cherubiel> !ntfs > Parabola
[06:10] <w30> wood: not much, mostly what you need to know is html but I don't so...I am limited.
[06:10] <Parabola> stfu
[06:10] <cherubiel> !family
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <Parabola> you guys arent reading what im saying at all
[06:10] <Parabola> calm down a sec
[06:10] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, and chown root:root <mnt pt.> if using root
[06:10] <brian98> then wget http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt
[06:10] <wood> w30: lol heheeh yeah but I'll need to go sleep.. have to go to Qc City tomorrow .. this is gonna be a big day .. and it's 2 hours from where i live.. anyway.. i just wondering if you know where is the default root directory of the apache2 (www) file
[06:10] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  read up i did that it wont stick
[06:10] <|thunder> IcemanV9; i dont really know what its doing. keeps asking if its ok to overwrite files or some random thing everytime I apt install anything.
[06:11] <brian98> then sudo apt-key add GPG-Key-chantra.txt
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, oh gotcha. thats a common thing with mounting
[06:11] <Parabola> cherubiel, fstab entry: /dev/sda1 /media/Data ntfs defaults 0 0
[06:11] <viator> does gaim2 have webcam support yet?
[06:11] <w30> wood: apache root directory is /var/www
[06:11] <brian98> not necessary but tidy up rm GPG-Key-chantra.txt
[06:11] <Geoffrey2> feross, I probably want to manually edit the partitions, right?
[06:11] <brian98> sorry
[06:11] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, are you mounting it automatically?
[06:11] <brian98> sudo rm GPG-Key-chantra.txt
[06:11] <brian98> then sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <IcemanV9> |thunder: can u remove vmware player? to see if it does calm down?
[06:11] <wood> w30: im trying to find in the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf the good line
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, using fstab? try doin it manually see if it works that way
[06:12] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  thats pointless
[06:12] <brian98> sudo aptitude update
[06:12] <Parabola> im not manually mounting my drives
[06:12] <feross> Parabola: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=585
[06:12] <Parabola> my problem is my fstab entry
[06:12] <Parabola> i just need a proper working one
[06:12] <Parabola> thats all.
[06:12] <feross> Geoffrey2: yes
[06:12] <wood> w30: do you know in wich file i can modify the path ?
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, well... maybe if u do, then u can check out mtab
[06:12] <VCF> How do I remove a user from a group ?
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> see what works
[06:12] <soheil> even 'ls' won't work on my computer
[06:12] <|thunder> IcemanV9; i tried, it says it cant remove it because it removed the vmware-kernel first.
[06:12] <soheil> :((
[06:12] <briguyd> brian98, thanks
[06:12] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  please stop trying to help me, thanks mate
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> Parabola, this isnt a help channel to begin with
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> go to #ubuntu
[06:12] <marshall> hey guys
[06:13] <Parabola> pppoe_dude,  thats what channel youre in right now you retard
[06:13] <brian98> briguyd, sudo apt-get intstall gaim should do it then!
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:13] <|thunder> wow
[06:13] <w30> wood: I have seen it but I don't remember. Why do you need to change it?
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> sorry
[06:13] <cherubiel> Parabola: rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[06:13] <VCF> How do I remove a user from a group ?
[06:13] <cherubiel> try that instead of defaults
[06:13] <brian98> Parabola, hey
[06:13] <Parabola> cherubiel,  thats what i needed, thanks man
[06:13] <feross> Parabola: check out that last link I posted
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> <--- confused
[06:13] <Parabola> feross theres 500GB of data on here, im NOT going to write to it
[06:13] <Parabola> but thanks anyway
[06:13] <brian98> calm down :)
[06:13] <iCod> whats something fun to do in ubuntu?
[06:13] <wood> w30: ok I'll stay it there
[06:13] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, interesting.....it looks like the partition that tanked WAS an ext3
[06:13] <IcemanV9> |thunder: i have seen it before (once) on my box and another one on ubuntuforums; i don't remember how it went though
[06:13] <cherubiel> Parabola: whats in it dude? :)
[06:14] <bruenig> ICod, browse the internet
[06:14] <iCod> others?
[06:14] <cherubiel> Parabola: maybe we should share ;)
[06:14] <bruenig> iCod, listen to music
[06:14] <brian98> briguyd, work for you?
[06:14] <cherubiel> iCod: games?
[06:14] <briguyd> installing now
[06:14] <bruenig> !info neverball
[06:14] <briguyd> ill tel you in a sec, brian98
[06:14] <ubotu> neverball: 3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 468 kB
[06:14] <iCod> obvious choices those are...
[06:14] <soheil> why ls won't work?
[06:14] <bruenig> iCod, whatever you do with computer that is fun
[06:15] <iCod> neverball rocks, my system can't take it though
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> Would a USB wifi adaptor work okay with Ubuntu versus a PCI one?
[06:15] <Parabola> cherubiel, lol lets get it working first
[06:15] <w30> wood: if you have bookoo stuff in another place I would think you could semi-link to it after getting the owner permissions right.
[06:15] <Parabola> then we can talk
[06:15] <briguyd> yeah, i played neverball on my other system, its alright
[06:15] <Parabola> cherubiel, should i remove defaults from the line?
[06:15] <briguyd> hard to control, though
[06:15] <feross> soheil: hmm try ls -la
[06:15] <bruenig> I can't handle neverball either
[06:15] <cherubiel> Parabola: yes, please do.
[06:15] <briguyd> i highly suggest a joystick
[06:15] <Parabola> cherubiel,  k one sec gonna remount
[06:15] <IcemanV9> |thunder: fwiw, i used kqemu instead of vmware player; did not give me any problem
[06:15] <iCod> I do have a problem, system monitor reads 100% cpu usage
[06:15] <briguyd> even then its hard
[06:15] <iCod> any ideas?
[06:15] <feross> iCod: tried snes
[06:15] <wood> w30: never heard about bookoo
[06:16] <Parabola> haha worked
[06:16] <Parabola> cherubiel,  you're the man
[06:16] <bruenig> iCod, stop running all your programs at once
[06:16] <iCod> tonyyarasu, usb can be an experience, pci may be a lot easier
[06:16] <briguyd> brian98, worked like a charm, thanks
[06:16] <soheil> soheil@ubuntu:~$ ls -la
[06:16] <soheil> ls: relocation error: ls: symbol opendmr, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[06:16] <feross> iCod: run fvwm-crystal ... just for fun. you might like it.
[06:16] <iCod> bruenig, gaim and firefox is not much
[06:16] <sethk> iCod, run top, see what's taking up all the cpu
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> iCod: How come?  I thought usually USB stuff worked well.
[06:16] <brian98> briguyd, nice one!
[06:16] <|thunder> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[06:16] <|thunder>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:16] <|thunder> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:16] <|thunder>  vmware-player
[06:16] <|thunder> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:16] <VCF> deluser ?
[06:16] <soheil> it errors, u see
[06:16] <bruenig> iCod, don't you lie to me
[06:17] <w30> wood: probably not spelled right but it's a vietnam veterns term for a vietnamese name for many
[06:17] <iCod> tonyyarusso, not for me
[06:17] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the usb network layer is rather new
[06:17] <iCod> but every system is different
[06:17] <|thunder> ill check out kqemu. thanks
[06:17] <sethk> tonyyarusso, add in wireless, which is also somewhat new, and you can get some instability
[06:17] <wood> w30 : lol okkk hehehe
[06:17] <w30> wood: like bookoo soldiers in the hills
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Ah.
[06:17] <iCod> bash: fvwm-crystal: command not found
[06:17] <Parabola> woo
[06:17] <Parabola> xhcat crashed
[06:17] <feross> soheil: hmm, not sure, first time I see that..
[06:17] <nocti> is it safe to write to ntfs partition in dapper?
[06:17] <wood> w30: in english is : a lot and french is beaucoup :P
[06:18] <sethk> iCod, run top
[06:18] <Parabola> nocti,  theres a beta driver
[06:18] <iCod> sethk, modprobe
[06:18] <Parabola> next year a stable will be out
[06:18] <edgy> Hi, I just paid for a debian server on the net and would prefer to change it to ubuntu. Should I just change the sources.lst file and do upgrade and dist-upgrade or is there a better solution?
[06:18] <Parabola> just wait until then
[06:18] <Parabola> unless you dont care about your data :)
[06:18] <iCod> I've discussed the problem with others, never could pin point it
[06:18] <nocti> Parabola, ah thanks.
[06:18] <Parabola> nocti,  np
[06:18] <briguyd> brian98, should apt-get be able to update gaim when a new beta and eventually the final 2.0 is released?
[06:18] <feross> iCod: http://polishlinux.org/apps/fvwm-crystal-speed-and-transparency/
[06:18] <sethk> iCod, modprobe is running and using up cpu?
[06:18] <Parabola> nocti,  your best bet is put your ntfs drives in another box and use samba to write to them :)
[06:18] <w30> wood: probably the Vietnamese were bastardizing French beaucoup
[06:19] <edgy> briguyd: yes
[06:19] <wood> w30: maybe..
[06:19] <sethk> iCod, ?
[06:19] <iCod> what?
[06:19] <nocti> Parabola, can an XP  virtual machine do the same thing? got only 1 box :)
[06:19] <iCod> yeah
[06:19] <sethk> iCod, did you say modprobe is using up your cpu?
[06:19] <iCod> yep
[06:19] <soheil> why ls doesn't work?
[06:19] <Parabola> nocti,  i dont know man, probobly not :-\
[06:19] <soheil> :-?
[06:19] <sethk> iCod, you have a circular dependency
[06:19] <wood> w30: seems that apache2 is working but when I want to surf on .. it wants to downlaod the file instead of showing it
[06:19] <max__> Will the ATI Radeon X1300 Pro AGP 256MB Video Card run in Linuxx
[06:19] <Parabola> because VMware does all the transitions
[06:19] <nocti> ok
[06:19] <iCod> about 50-60%
[06:20] <sethk> iCod, it's the equivalent of an endless loop
[06:20] <iCod> fix?
[06:20] <nocti> i think i'll just wait then
[06:20] <feross> soheil: try google
[06:20] <Parabola> like if your sound doesnt work in windows and you setup vmware in it and install linux, your sound wont work either
[06:20] <red|rain> Hi, in Evolution I have 3 email accounts but when I get emails they all go into one folder, is there a away I can seperate my different accounts?
[06:20] <Geoffrey2> feross, ok, drive format in progress....
[06:20] <sethk> iCod, try erasing and recreating your modules database
[06:20] <Parabola> nocti, it uses host drivers for everything
[06:20] <soheil> u did ubunttu and don't u know what this error is?
[06:20] <iCod> sethk, how...
[06:20] <feross> Geoffrey2: oh yeah, it was already ext3 right.. weird
[06:20] <Jas-Nix> red|rain: are they all pop ?
[06:20] <sethk> iCod, depmod is used to create the database.
[06:20] <red|rain> Jas-Nix: yes they are
[06:20] <Rookie-> !nfs
[06:20] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:20] <sethk> iCod, let me look it up ...
[06:20] <edgy> WHY are you so active, you can't read my question like this ;)
[06:20] <wood> w30: maybe you can help me on that .. I did another  mistake apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.10 for ServerName
[06:20] <w30> wood: the French left their language after they left, It was too much to pack everything. The Americans left their helicopters, ha.
[06:20] <Jas-Nix> red|rain: I think you can change it under settings > defaults
[06:20] <Jas-Nix> but I'm not positive
[06:20] <iCod> sethk, thank you
[06:21] <red|rain> Jas-Nix: ok i'll take a look at that
[06:21] <wood> w30: lol heheheh
[06:21] <sethk> iCod, you run depmod with one or more module names.
[06:21] <junmin> feross, administration. cause i would like to run a web hosting business.....
[06:21] <sethk> iCod, can you list the modules in use with lsmod?
[06:21] <Tokenbad> whats the best way to handle img files in ubuntu?
[06:21] <feross> soheil: I'm not an Ubuntu developer. I'm just a regular guy that used linux for a couple of years so now I help out when I can and so is the rest of the people here.
[06:21] <wood> w30 : i dont know where to change the server name
[06:21] <iCod> ok
[06:21] <wood> w30 oupss i mean the domain name
[06:21] <MaxL> Will the ATI Radeon X1300 Pro AGP 256MB Video Card run in Ubuntu?
[06:21] <Armstrong80> Im having some trouble with Google Video (flash) I can play the video but there is no sound. I have another friend using ubuntu and he is able to hear the audio, anyone run into this before?
[06:22] <red|rain> Jas-Nix: nothing :(
[06:22] <brian98> briguyd,  should do!
[06:22] <iCod> sethk, how do you want me to give you the list?
[06:22] <MaxL> Armstrong80 what version of ubuntu ya usin?
[06:22] <feross> junmin: go to howtoforge.com and look up ISP Ubuntu server. It's a good tutorial.
[06:22] <sethk> soheil, what are you running when you get that relocation error?
[06:22] <plus_M> So I am having some trouble installing my nvidia video cards driver on Xubuntu, can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[06:22] <w30> wood: the server name will be in a config file somewhere. try man apache.conf? just a guess
[06:22] <Armstrong80> MaxL: 6.06
[06:22] <Parabola> man i cant remove half the crap that ubunut comes with, without it trying to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <soheil> So why it's the official forum for ubuntu then?
[06:22] <Tokenbad> Armstrong80, have you tried this:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[06:22] <Parabola> is there a way to fix that?
[06:23] <sethk> iCod, don't give it to me, use it.  I'll tell you how ...
[06:23] <lba> sethk, Could you please give me the dd command to save MBR again.  It scrolled off and, since I updated Xchat, it wasn't logging.
[06:23] <wood> w30 ok thanks i ll look
[06:23] <iCod> sethk, thank you, I'm ready
[06:23] <jtholmes> wood believe it comes from  /etc/hosts
[06:23] <sethk> lba, dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.backup bs=512 count=1
[06:23] <MaxL> Armstrong80:  Odd... I noticed in that in Breezy Badger, the sound can only be occpuied by one application at once, I'm on Dapper Drake now, sometimes just restarting the browswer works.
[06:23] <lba> sethk, Thanks vm.
[06:23] <soheil> sethk:I'm running ls
[06:23] <sethk> iCod, do lsmod > create-modules-database
[06:23] <sethk> iCod, that's just an arbitrary file name
[06:23] <junmin> feross, thanks will go to see
[06:24] <sethk> iCod, edit that file, and add to the beginning of each line     depmod
[06:24] <Parabola> better yet
[06:24] <sethk> iCod, then chmod +x create-modules-database
[06:24] <plus_M> uh am I still connected?
[06:24] <Parabola> is there a way to remove packages via apt without it removing its dependencies?
[06:24] <soheil> u see:soheil@ubuntu:~$ ls
[06:24] <soheil> ls: relocation error: ls: symbol opendmr, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[06:24] <sethk> then delete the current database, and run that file.
[06:24] <Armstrong80> MaxL: Ill try restarting the browser, thanks.
[06:24] <iCod> sethk, edit what file?
[06:24] <MaxL> Armstrong80:  No prob.
[06:24] <plus_M> Can someone help me troubleshoot the installation of this nvidia video card driver?
[06:24] <sethk> iCod, the one you create by doing     lsmod > create-modules-database
[06:25] <sethk> iCod, you'll also have to edit out everything on each line after the module name
[06:25] <MaxL> Anyone know if the ATI Radeon X1300 Pro 256MB will run in Ubuntu?
[06:25] <sethk> iCod, the idea is to delete your database, and then run depmod for each module that you need.
[06:25] <iCod> ok
[06:25] <sethk> iCod, wait, there's a much smarter way
[06:25] <kitche> soheil: yeah that is very bad since it killed your system probably a glibc problem or a readline I figure since it happen to me while installing both of those packages at different times
[06:25] <briguyd> MaxL, define "run"
[06:25] <iCod> eh? that would be great
[06:25] <sethk> iCod, sorry, that was dumb, there's a way to recreate it from /etc/modules.
[06:26] <iCod> yes sir
[06:26] <MaxL> briguyd: like, work and play games, I'm planning on buying a new video card and just double checking to see if it will run in ubuntu
[06:27] <sethk> iCod, depmod with no arguments
[06:27] <iCod> sethk, ok
[06:27] <sethk> iCod, the database is named modules.dep
[06:27] <soheil> what to do then?
[06:27] <sethk> iCod, and lives in /lib/modules/kernel-version
[06:27] <sethk> iCod, where kernel-version is the output of   uname -r
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, for example /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep
[06:28] <iCod> ok
[06:28] <briguyd> MaxL, i'm sure it'll work on some level, but ATI isnt the best with their linux drivers
[06:28] <soheil> kitche:what to do then?
[06:28] <briguyd> lemme check on that card
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, you want to rename that file (I would copy it somewhere first and then rename it)
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, then run depmod
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, then make sure that you have a nice new modules.dep
[06:28] <Armstrong80> MaxL: restarting the browser didnt work, Ive installed flashplugin-nonfree is that the proper one?
[06:28] <sethk> iCod, then hopefully modprobe will be able to run normally
[06:29] <sethk> iCod, no guarantees, but it has a good chance of working
[06:29] <iCod> ok
[06:29] <MaxL> Armstrong80:  Not sure, that's how I got it to work usually.
[06:29] <iCod> which folder will it be in?
[06:29] <iCod> kernel number?
[06:29] <MaxL> briguyd: Yeah that's what I heard... So it's not worth it to buy an ATI card though?
[06:29] <iCod> never mind
[06:29] <Tokenbad> how handle .img files in ubuntu?
[06:29] <briguyd> MaxL, looks like its technically supported
[06:30] <sethk> iCod, /lib/modules/XXXXXXXXXXXX where XXXXXXXXXXXX is the output of   uname -r
[06:30] <briguyd> MaxL, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MzU4
[06:30] <iCod> sethk, I'm almost done
[06:30] <sethk> MaxL, if you are buying, nvidia is probably a better choice.
[06:30] <MaxL> briguyd: Problem is I'm a gamer, I actually want to use the card for what it's meant for.
[06:30] <MaxL> sethk: yeah the NVIDIA's are harder to find the ATI x.x;
[06:31] <briguyd> MaxL, i always preferred nvidia, because so many rendering companies use linux with nvidia, they have to release good linux drivers
[06:31] <briguyd> ati doesnt have that issue, so they do it solely for the consumer
[06:31] <briguyd> and theres less pressure to do that
[06:31] <MaxL> briguyd: YEah I heard that. :/ ATI are usualyl alot cheaper too.
[06:32] <sethk> MaxL, I've got a couple of ATIs that you can have for free  :)
[06:32] <shriphani> 0000:00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[06:32] <shriphani> whhch card is that ?
[06:32] <Parabola> ATI's are pointless to buy until the R650's come out
[06:32] <MaxL> sethk: Lol, I'm trying to get a new card for this compy I'm building a computer I'm trying to use for computer.
[06:32] <shriphani> sethk, gimme yer ati
[06:32] <MaxL> trying to use for gaming*
[06:32] <briguyd> shriphani, its integrated into your motherboard
[06:33] <sethk> shriphani, it's PCI and has 8mb memory  :)
[06:33] <shriphani> heh sethk
[06:33] <MaxL> briguyd: :/ My onboard video blows.
[06:33] <briguyd> sethk, i got a few of those
[06:33] <MaxL> briguyd: Has trouble running screensavers.
[06:33] <sethk> briguyd, :)
[06:33] <briguyd> sethk, and a voodoo3
[06:33] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[06:33] <shriphani> sethk, you really doing ati charity ?
[06:33] <sethk> briguyd, any all-in-wonders?
[06:33] <briguyd> which is currently running on another machine
[06:33] <briguyd> sethk, nope
[06:34] <shriphani> sethk, ?
[06:34] <sethk> briguyd, the "wonder" was "I wonder what I was thinking when I bought this POS"  :)
[06:34] <iCod> sethk, thank you, modprobe is down about 10-20% cpu now
[06:34] <sethk> shriphani, I hadn't thought about it, actually, but if you really have some use for them, sure.
[06:34] <iCod> it did something
[06:34] <sethk> iCod, hey, excellent.  :)
[06:34] <briguyd> haha
[06:34] <shriphani> cool send them here
[06:34] <MaxL> Man shopping for video cards on a budget is such a pain.
[06:35] <sethk> iCod, that's still too high, but we're on the right track,, it seems.
[06:35] <iCod> very
[06:35] <VCF> If any of you see iLLf8d, tell him thanks again, and tell him I got it to work, the answer was on the sshfs site itself =), night people !!!
[06:35] <w30> MaxL: check this url out:http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34774
[06:35] <iCod> sethk, maybe a restart will fix it all
[06:35] <sethk> iCod, worth a try, definitely.
[06:36] <shriphani> sethk, free shipping as well ?
[06:37] <iCod> how can I cut down on xorg's cpu usage?
[06:38] <brian98> w30, They still suck :)
[06:39] <Asc> iCod: are you doing anything that would incur high CPU usage?
[06:39] <iCod> no
[06:39] <iCod> firefox and gaim
[06:39] <w30> brian98: I have a Nvidia Gforce myself, it's a pain because of the reinstalling for every kernel.
[06:40] <iCod> sethk, bad news, modprobe hit 60% just now
[06:40] <Armstrong80> Has anyone had any problems with audio and flash?
[06:40] <brian98> w30,  I changed from ati to nvidia because the drivers are better lol
[06:40] <cpk1> trying to mount an iso i made from a .mdf but mount is giving me "mount: not a directory"
[06:40] <brian98> Armstrong80, lots of people
[06:40] <Asc> iCod: shouldn't be too high even if you're on old hardware.  14% or so when not rendering a page maybe
[06:40] <brian98> Armstrong80, once sec
[06:40] <w30> brian98: propriatary drivers are not good but what can you do?
[06:41] <iCod> asc, its ok now, I just realized I had the flashy last.fm page up
[06:41] <brian98> Armstrong80, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[06:41] <brian98> Armstrong80, google really is your friend
[06:41] <Asc> iCod: unless you're using the task manager that comes with gnome.  That thing eats CPU like those neat little rice crackers.
[06:41] <mipstien> can you uninstall a kernel completely without it uninstalling nvidia and such?
[06:41] <brian98> and so are we!
[06:41] <Armstrong80> brian98: thank you, I had looked but not hard enough apparently. Regards.
[06:41] <Asc> iCod: Ah.  Yeah.
[06:41] <brian98> Armstrong80, No worries man!
[06:41] <iCod> Asc, yeah
[06:42] <iCod> Asc, could you check your processes and see if you have modprobe running?
[06:42] <Asc> No, I don't seem to
[06:42] <brian98> w30 buy a propietary card
[06:42] <brian98> lol
[06:43] <iCod> darn
[06:43] <brian98> propriatary even
[06:43] <iCod> Asc, I have this great problem where modprobe seems to be stuck in a loop. Its running at 60% cpu almost all the time.
[06:44] <Aven> hey, anyone use gftp?
[06:44] <Asc> iCod: Can't help you much there, I've never used modprobe.
[06:45] <mipstien> I am running an AMD processor and would like to go back to my K7 kernel but it has somehow crashed, i am in my older but updated 386 kernel now, is there anyway to uninstall the k7 kernel without losing nvidia drivers?
[06:45] <Tokenbad> how handle .img files in ubuntu?
[06:47] <brian98> bye all!
[06:48] <mipstien> i have old kernel's installed but apt doesn't show them, is there a way to make apt see them as installed?
[06:49] <reanimation> hi
[06:49] <briguyd> hello
[06:50] <mipstien> hi!
[06:50] <wood> Hi ! Any of you know what is the problem when I type my address http://192.168.1.1/ it doesn't want to show me any defauld apache2 file ? I have install the phpmyadmin and cant have access to the phpmyadmin welcome web page .. why ?
[06:51] <mipstien> wood: im not sure but normally the 1.1 is saved for your router? what router are you using?
[06:52] <briguyd> wood, try ifocnfig in the console and make sure your IP is the same there as you think it is
[06:52] <briguyd> ifconfig *
[06:52] <YorikNMe> localhost doesnt work either?
[06:52] <wood> mipstien: the address is not the real one . and dont worry for the ip .. I know that part
[06:52] <Armstrong80> brian98: I have executed the commands that were on that page, still no sound. Ive gone to the link he posted but am having some trouble deciphering it.
[06:52] <briguyd> wood, whats in your /var/www ?
[06:52] <mipstien> i have old kernel's installed but apt doesn't show them, is there a way to make apt see them as installed?
[06:53] <wood> briguyd: default file .. never touch that directory
[06:53] <briguyd> isnt that where apache looks for the webserver?
[06:53] <w30> wood: does it show you a folder? If so that's because there is no file called index.html in the root directory.
[06:53] <briguyd> or did you change the default?
[06:53] <cpk1> need help mounting an .iso got this error "mount: not a directory"
[06:54] <briguyd> cpk1, did you specify a mountpoint to mount it  to?
[06:54] <eylisian> cpk1:what command do you issue to get this riddle?
[06:54] <cpk1> briguyd: i did /mnt
[06:54] <wood> there is a html and also a htm file in there and the server want me to download a phtml file instead of showing me the .html file i have in this directory
[06:54] <cpk1> eylisian: mount
[06:54] <briguyd> cpk1, post the exact command you used
[06:54] <Parabola> whats the default location for the burning software to place disc images ?
[06:55] <w30> wood: Is it named index.html?
[06:55] <eylisian> cpk1:what is your mount point? ubuntu defaults to /media
[06:55] <w30> wood: if not rename it index.html
[06:55] <cpk1> i did sudo mount /iso /mnt -o loop
[06:55] <wood> w30: ill retry to put a index.html file again with normal permission
[06:56] <briguyd> cpk1, what is "/iso"?
[06:56] <en1gma> hey all im following this guide "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto" and it wants me to do a "apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" but its not working
[06:56] <w30> wood: if you want to load a different html file you have to change apache config
[06:56] <cpk1> /home/cpk1/nameof.iso
[06:56] <en1gma> what is the correct syntax for that today
[06:56] <cpk1> i shortened it
[06:56] <Aven> anyone use gftp
[06:56] <briguyd> cpk1, i dont thin /mnt exists
[06:57] <w30> wood: just rename it index.html
[06:57] <briguyd> try making a directory in /media to mount the iso to
[06:57] <wood> w30 ok problem found
[06:57] <eylisian> cpk1: and the -o arg is in the wrong place.
[06:57] <briguyd> then replace /mnt with whatever you just created
[06:57] <briguyd> and the -o is in the wrong place, yeah
[06:57] <en1gma> what was "ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" is now what "     "
[06:57] <mipstien> !apt
[06:57] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:57] <en1gma> what was "ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" is now what "     "
[06:58] <eylisian> cpk1: briguyd speaks good sense.
[06:58] <wood> w30 : the index.html file was not there because an error of transfer file from the ssh secure shell
[06:58] <cpk1> i have a /mnt dir...
[06:58] <briguyd> eylisian, thats a first
[06:58] <wood> w30: it's my fault.. but thanks a lot !
[06:58] <en1gma> come on
[06:58] <en1gma> jesus i know this isnt hard for someone who has used ubuntu for a bit
[06:58] <eylisian> briguyd: heh. I understand.
[06:59] <ComputinChuck> i'm trying to use gtkmm (the newest one in the repositories) and when i compile anything including gtkmm.h it says that every header is missing
[06:59] <w30> wood: blame your bifocials, I do and get away with it
[06:59] <briguyd> cpk1, then try mounting to an empty subdirectory of /mnt that you created
[06:59] <ComputinChuck> i have the package installed
[06:59] <wood> thanks guys to help so much !!
[06:59] <feross> en1gma: ubuntu-base is what is installed by default to get a basic working ubuntu install without anything else.
[06:59] <en1gma> it wont apt-get install it
[06:59] <en1gma> says no package found
[06:59] <en1gma> or soemthing like that
[06:59] <wood> w30: what is bifocials ?
[06:59] <feross> if you have a working ubuntu system it's already installed
[07:00] <en1gma> im installing it to a partition by chrooting
[07:00] <en1gma> it needs to install it
[07:00] <w30> wood: glasses for old men; the top part is for distance the botom part is for close up focus
[07:00] <en1gma> im running live cd
[07:01] <feross> en1gma: ubuntu-desktop is replaced with gnome-desktop, kde-desktop and xfce-desktop or something similar. can't remember off the top of my head
[07:01] <en1gma> ubuntu-base didnt work either
[07:01] <en1gma> are you sure that is still same exact name
[07:01] <feross> en1gma: isn't there an icon on the deskto that says install to disk or something like that
[07:02] <w30> wood: and if you are looking at something in the joint of the two lenses things disappear
[07:02] <en1gma> yea that wont do a chroot install
[07:02] <en1gma> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[07:02] <wood> w30: lol ok hehehe
[07:02] <w30> wood: like a sidewalk step, you gotta be careful
[07:02] <en1gma> is there a newer guide avail?
[07:03] <wood> w30 .. yeah.. it is probably because im real tired.. it's been 5 hours im making this litlle server
[07:03] <en1gma> feross can you help me with this you think
[07:04] <en1gma> i just want to instal
[07:04] <en1gma> nothing that should be complicated
[07:04] <en1gma> but its being kind of a bugger
[07:04] <skt|din_din> I've spent the last 3 days trying to figure Ubuntu out, if it makes you feel better wood.
[07:04] <w30> wood: I have done many an all nighter on Linux, but it's fun
[07:04] <en1gma> ive spent the last 10days trying to install any linux
[07:04] <mipstien> where is grub.lst located?
[07:04] <en1gma> i think ubuntu can do it
[07:04] <skt|din_din> Why hasn't it worked?
[07:05] <en1gma> raid0 stripe
[07:05] <feross> en1gma: what are you trying to do exactly and why?
[07:05] <en1gma> one more time
[07:05] <en1gma> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[07:05] <jtholmes> mipstien: usually in  /boot/grub
[07:05] <skt|din_din> All nighters in Linux = me.
[07:05] <en1gma> im almost done with it i think
[07:05] <w30> /boot/grub/menu1st
[07:05] <en1gma> i got a couple lines that didnt take well
[07:05] <skt|din_din> Especially since I screwed up firefox and my home menu and couldn't get to either.
[07:05] <en1gma> apt-get install linux-k7
[07:05] <en1gma> apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop #the download may take a while, about 500 MB. But you'll have an up2date system :)
[07:06] <en1gma> those 2 lines
[07:06] <mipstien> jtholmes: i can't find it :\
[07:06] <wood> w30 : this is fun to do !! :P ok see you later ! !bye bye and thanks a lot helping me !
[07:06] <wood> bye bye all !!
[07:06] <skt|din_din> I'm still trying to figure out how to create a launcher for Nicotine+ XD
[07:06] <jtholmes> mipstien: do you have /boot
[07:06] <myesterious> When add JP layout key , Why cannot I press Left(Alt+Shift) for switch group (But can press Right(Alt+Shift) )?
[07:06] <ebzero> Hey im new to Ubuntu and all i was just wondering can anyone help me with a problem ive been having with vs 6.06?
[07:06] <en1gma> 'apt-get install linux-k7' now = 'apt-get install linux-generix'
[07:06] <mipstien> jtholmes nevermind, its called menu.lst... i just had a brain fart :P
[07:06] <en1gma> but that last line isnt working
[07:06] <Somniis> we can certainly try, ebzero
[07:07] <kamui> curious who has a real fast consumer grade connection, what speed is it?
[07:07] <cherubiel> !ask
[07:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:07] <en1gma> ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop
[07:07] <skt|din_din> so sethk was telling me that my home slash skt slash menu isn't my real menu.
[07:07] <ebzero> Ok well when i run my disk i click install and it runs fine untill it gets to somthing abuot hardware check then says RNG not detected then a bunch of stuff scrolls really quickly to fast to read
[07:07] <skt|din_din> And I just about died.
[07:07] <en1gma> when im using "apt-get install" what or where is a site that i can see whats avail for it
[07:08] <Flannel> en1gma: "apt-cache search [term] " or, packages.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <ArrenLex> en1gma: "apt-cache search" or packages.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <ArrenLex> XD
[07:08] <en1gma> thnx 1 sec
[07:08] <ArrenLex> Damn you, flannel!
[07:08] <Flannel> ArrenLex: heh, I had that, but then went back and added in [term]  ;)
[07:08] <baconbacon> en1gma, you can use synaptic also
[07:08] <cpk1> maybe I am having a problem mounting the .iso because i created it from a .mdf?
[07:09] <en1gma> this is a chroot install so i dont know if i an
[07:09] <en1gma> can*
[07:10] <w30> cpk1: what's a .mdf?
[07:10] <jtholmes> cpk1: sorry what is an  .mdf
[07:10] <ebzero> Anyone know how to fix RNG problems?? :-/
[07:10] <Somniis> it's an image file
[07:10] <cpk1> some thing that windows can mount like an image
[07:10] <Somniis> tons of them, lol
[07:11] <jtholmes> cpk1: ok, i assumed that, is it a linux/unix type
[07:11] <skt|din_din> is slash home slash skt slash whatever my real directory?
[07:12] <cherubiel> ebzero: any hotswappable devices?? usb etc ?
[07:12] <cpk1> dont think so, i got mdf2iso to make it an iso, i read some forum post saying that you couldnt mount .mdf or .mds
[07:12] <feross> en1gma: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153760  did you read that post?
[07:12] <skt|din_din> Because sethk thought I was lying to him, and acted like I was crazy.
[07:12] <jtholmes> cpk1:  run file  *.iso and see what it tells you
[07:12] <ebzero> bah im getting a error when its doing a hard ware check on the disk when i attempt to install anyone have any ideas it says RNG (random number generator) not detected a bunch of stuff scrolls down quickly and ends with "not synching correctly fatal" Im attempting to install Unbuntu  6.06 I386...
[07:12] <cherubiel> ebzero: how far does the installer go? what stage did you reach? where is this getting stuck? wat do you se onth screen
[07:12] <en1gma> i think "apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" is now "apt-get install gnome" does that sound correct
[07:12] <baconbacon> RNG not detected is not a problem
[07:13] <ebzero> but then it just freezes there and dosnt do anything :-/
[07:13] <cpk1> err how do you run an iso?
[07:13] <Somniis> you can mount it with daemon tools or alcohol 120%.. not sure if those run on linux
[07:14] <baconbacon> there is 2 commands for mounting an iso as a cd
[07:14] <medic30420> ebzero, this sounds like ubuntu is just telling you that your CPU doesn't have a rng, very normal, the syncing message sounds like a display adapter issue
[07:14] <en1gma> mount isofs
[07:14] <en1gma> -9660
[07:14] <medic30420> ebzero, what are the specs on your machine?
[07:14] <cherubiel> ebzero: h/w
[07:14] <cherubiel> ?
[07:14] <baconbacon> cpk1, usually i do something like losetup /dev/loop/0 ~/myiso, then mount -t iso9660 /dev/loop0 /mountpoint
[07:15] <feross> en1gma: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto  looked at this one?
[07:15] <cpk1> mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/foo.iso /mnt gives me "mount: not a directory"
[07:15] <Somniis> cpk1: you can also burn the iso to a cd and do it that way
[07:15] <jtholmes> cpk1  just  execute   'file  *iso'  and see what  the file command tells you the file type is
[07:15] <ebzero> I've got a pos :D its a COpaw presario 80 gig, 256 ram intel celeron processor with a ati radion 9250 Graphics card
[07:15] <Netslayer> trying to run gksu "update-manager -c -d" but it's failing with ubuntu-desktop, so i installed ubuntu-desktop and it's still failing..any ideas?
[07:15] <jtholmes> cpk1:  *iso is you iso file name
[07:15] <ebzero> Compaq*
[07:16] <cpk1> it says iso 9660
[07:16] <ChrisBradley> somebody call me here earlier?
[07:16] <medic30420> ebzero, how old is it?
[07:16] <ebzero> err i think 3-4 years
[07:16] <LookTJ> Hi
[07:16] <medic30420> ebzero, are you trying to do a clean install?
[07:17] <LookTJ> How do i make the timer stop when grub boots?
[07:17] <ebzero> I think so lol im not to sure what a "Clean Install" is :-/
[07:17] <jtholmes> cpk1:  then  try   mount  -o loop -t iso9660  *isofile  /mnt    and see what it does
[07:17] <en1gma> feross its not just sata its raid
[07:17] <en1gma> wait 1 sec
[07:17] <en1gma> lemme look at that
[07:18] <medic30420> ebzero, are you installing ubuntu for the first time, and not leaving any other operating systems (winxp, etc) on the machine?
[07:18] <cpk1> jtholmes: gives me "mount: not a directory"
[07:18] <ebzero> Yeah
[07:18] <jtholmes> cpk1  of course  *isofile  is   /path/path2/isofile
[07:18] <baconbacon> LookTJ press esc or move in the menu
[07:18] <LookTJ> How i make the timer stop when the grub menu shows up at bootup
[07:18] <cpk1> yup
[07:18] <medic30420> ebzero, ok, do this, download the alternate install cd
[07:18] <baconbacon> LookTJ, do you want to disable the timer?
[07:18] <Flannel> LookTJ: you mean to stop it from automatically continuing?
[07:18] <en1gma> feross i hate you!
[07:18] <en1gma> :)
[07:18] <LookTJ> yep
[07:18] <feross> ;)
[07:18] <en1gma> yea that looks like a good one
[07:18] <ebzero> Is that file also 659mb :-(
[07:19] <jtholmes> cpk1 interesting  give me a minute let me look at my notes
[07:19] <en1gma> ok i got to restart this mess all over
[07:19] <en1gma> but that one looks even easier
[07:19] <LookTJ> remove timeout		3?
[07:19] <medic30420> ebzero, this is a text based install, i do not think your computer has enough memory to run the live CD & install it
[07:19] <baconbacon> jtholmes, look in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst, there is a timeout directive
[07:19] <baconbacon> put 0 beside it instead of 3 or 4
[07:19] <jtholmes> cpk1  i am  running  6.10 live on top of my  suse and have to mount some slices
[07:19] <ebzero> So whats the differnce with the Alternate?
[07:19] <LookTJ> thanks bacon
[07:19] <LookTJ> :D
[07:19] <medic30420> ebzero, i ran into a similar issue with a dell that is 4 years old
[07:20] <baconbacon> jtholmes, i meant LookTJ
[07:20] <en1gma> bbiab
[07:20] <en1gma> got to redo alot of stuff
[07:20] <Somniis> ebzero: it is text-based, and ran on bootup :-)
[07:20] <feross> k
[07:20] <poptones> hello.. can anyone tell me how to make beagle in dapper index mp3 files?
[07:20] <ebzero> Does it have the same applications at the desktop?
[07:20] <medic30420> ebzero, basically the text install uses less memory, (unless you have at least 512MB of RAM you need the alternate install)
[07:21] <cpk1> jtholmes: i think i might have found something, it is trying to loop with /dev/loop0 which i dont have, should I go ahead and make it?
[07:21] <baconbacon> cpk1, usually i do something like losetup /dev/loop/0 ~/myiso, then mount -t iso9660 /dev/loop0 /mountpoint
[07:21] <medic30420> ebzero, after install everything is the exact same as the regular desktop cd
[07:21] <baconbacon> i said that already :)
[07:21] <medic30420> ebzero, just choose the first option when the CD boots
[07:21] <cpk1> what does losetup do?
[07:21] <ebzero> Alright thanks a ton Medic ill go give it a try right now :)
[07:22] <baconbacon> setup a loopback device
[07:23] <jtholmes> cpk1 setup, deletes, lists, creates you loop devices
[07:23] <dura> why is it trying to remove wireless-tools makes apt also want to remove _base packages?
[07:23] <jtholmes> cpk1  please send me the command you used to mount
[07:24] <david__> how do i change extension associations?
[07:24] <jtholmes> cpk1 because what I sent you should work
[07:24] <cpk1> hang on let me identify
[07:25] <feross> david__: right click on a file and open with.. then it will default to whatever you tell it.
[07:26] <S1NGH> anyone know if they can help with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25272/
[07:26] <Geoffrey2> well, let's hope I don't have to do this again in the near future.... :/
[07:27] <THX-1138> Hi I need a little help from the command line to create a  playlist of everything that isn't *wma.
[07:27] <poptones> how do i get beagle to index mp3 files?
[07:27] <feross> hey Geoffrey2 ... ohh well, that is weird tho.
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: apt-get remove compiz-core before you run that command.
[07:28] <Geoffrey2> now, what is the site where I can generate the repository information?
[07:29] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, um, what command?
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: before you apt-get install compiz-vanilla-aiglx compiz-vanilla compiz-vanilla-gnome, apt-get remove compiz-core
[07:29] <LookTJ> My other question, what command do i put to install w32 codecs?
[07:30] <ArrenLex> !w32codecs
[07:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:30] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, I think you have the wrong person, I have not a clue what compiz even is. :)
[07:30] <baconbacon> LookTJ: you put easyubuntu in google :)
[07:30] <ArrenLex> So I do. x
[07:30] <ArrenLex> D
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2 -> s1ngh
[07:30] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, no problem :)
[07:30] <LookTJ> i don't want easyubuntu nor automatrix
[07:31] <THX-1138> Maybe i can ask my question this way. Is find the best tool for recursing directories and piping to a text file?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> LookTJ: then find a repository for them on apt-get.org or else download the tarball from the mplayer official site and extract it to /usr/lib/win32
[07:31] <baconbacon> LookTJ : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[07:31] <feross> THX-1138: yes
[07:31] <Geoffrey2> there's a website I can use to generate the source information for package manager updates, to make sure I have all the sources I need enabled...can anyone tell me where that website is?
[07:31] <LookTJ> thanks i'
[07:32] <LookTJ> ll read that
[07:32] <cpk2> !sourceomatic
[07:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:32] <cpk2> Geoffrey2: go there
[07:32] <LookTJ> bacon put in source.list?
[07:33] <Geoffrey2> oh, if I want to play restricted format media, I need totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer, right?
[07:34] <LookTJ> where the source.list
[07:34] <THX-1138> feross - Thank You so very much. - I am still a bit unfamiliar with the many choices available.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> LookTJ: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:34] <LookTJ> thanks again
[07:34] <feross> Geoffrey2: did you want this one http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=564
[07:35] <progek> does anyone know if I can ever get 3ddesktop working with an intergrated SiS?
[07:35] <feross> THX-1138: you can do a 'find / -name *.wma -print > mylist.txt'
[07:36] <radar1976> ..
[07:36] <radar1976> can anyone see this?
[07:36] <feross> yeah
[07:36] <radar1976> ok, I forgot my nickserv pass ...wasn't sure if i could post to the channel
[07:37] <feross> poptones: hey figure out that beagle problem?
[07:37] <rescind> Anyone know how to access a newly partitioned fat32 hard drive
[07:37] <radar1976> ahh figured it out..
[07:37] <radar1976> hehe
[07:37] <poptones> feross: nope, thx for asking.
[07:37] <radar1976> question... I'm trying to get synaptics to work on my PB G4.... but I keep getting an error
[07:38] <poptones> everything i find seems to point to "it should jsut work."
[07:38] <THX-1138> feross - Eek! - no, i never want to find *.wma files the should be munged and then milspec erased to never be heard again. or at least rtranscoded into a civil format. - i need to exclude them and find the good stuff.
[07:38] <feross> poptones: I installed beagle because it was in a howto :) but never used it.. Unless it's integrated with the panel search tool thing..
[07:38] <poptones> beagle is mad handy, but it doesnt index anything about my mp3s except the folder name
[07:39] <radar1976> Query no Synaptics: 6003C8
[07:39] <radar1976> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[07:39] <radar1976> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
[07:39] <radar1976> (
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> feross, is the file I need to modify in etc?
[07:39] <radar1976> I have been reading lots of docs but still no luck
[07:39] <radar1976> any ideas?
[07:39] <feross> Geoffrey2: for sources.list? its  /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <THX-1138> feross - Yuo are one very generous individual to stop by and answer so many queries. - mad props to you.
[07:40] <ArrenLex> radar: I assume you... have a synaptics touchpad and it isn't recognised?
[07:40] <radar1976> well I was under the impress that the appletouch would work with the synaptics driver... ? yes/no?
[07:41] <feross> THX-1138: no prob..
[07:41] <ArrenLex> http://www.popies.net/atp/
[07:41] <ArrenLex> I'm under the impression that it just uses the synaptics name and you actually need to install a separate driver.
[07:41] <THX-1138> Open Source infinite confiureability feel the power of open source baby!   Bash scripting guide here i come!
[07:42] <feross> radar1976: I'm not sure about the Synaptic pad problem. I'm on a lappy currently and it 'just works' *shrug*
[07:42] <ArrenLex> radar: actually, that driver's in the kernel already. You should already have it.
[07:42] <THX-1138> feross - Was that a little over the top? - lol
[07:42] <ArrenLex> radar: what does your xorg.conf look like? Pastebin it.
[07:42] <radar1976> feross  it is the same here but I want scrolling
[07:43] <LookTJ> thanks for telling me the repos site again for w32codecs - baconbacon
[07:43] <feross> THX-1138: nahh.. bash ROX!!! but so does perl :)
[07:43] <ArrenLex> I don't think I'll ever understand exactly how bash handles whitespace and why. As long as you don't have to work with anything containing any special characters, ever, bash is great.
[07:43] <ArrenLex> I write a blender farm with bash.
[07:44] <ArrenLex> write -> wrote
[07:44] <ArrenLex> It was awesome. Combined multiple OS's and everything.
[07:44] <J-_> !bash
[07:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:44] <feross> true, it's /This\ File\/will\ pooo/with\ bash/
[07:45] <ArrenLex> That's hell when you're trying to work with anything you didn't name yourself. Like wine directory names.
[07:45] <radar1976> waiting for pastebin
[07:46] <ArrenLex> radar: if the ubuntu one doesn't work, feel free to use http://pastebin.ca/
[07:46] <radar1976> bahh  somehow that paste is corrupting the php headers!!!
[07:46] <dayvan_cowboy> hi fellas!
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> lolz
[07:46] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:46] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[07:46] <dayvan_cowboy> UBUNTU kicks ass!
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> radar1976, which pastebin are you using
[07:47] <radar1976> http://pastebin.com/797153
[07:47] <radar1976> I will try .ca
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> never use pastebin.com, it sucksorz
[07:47] <dayvan_cowboy> I just cannot find if it takes advantage of my 2 old P3 CPUs
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> I use rafb
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Christ, it IS down. *wait*
[07:47] <eylisian> dayvan_cowboy: some enthusiasim =)
[07:47] <dayvan_cowboy> does it support dual CPUs? I know it's a stupid question
[07:48] <eylisian> dayvan_cowboy: yes.
[07:48] <BHSPitLappy> dayvan_cowboy, look in sysinfo
[07:48] <ArrenLex> dayvan: look for a -smp kernel?
[07:48] <radar1976> I see that pastebin.com is crap!
[07:48] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/186600
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Yay.
[07:48] <dayvan_cowboy> It's really the professional linux I've been looking for
[07:48] <radar1976> ArrenLex I took it down!!!
[07:48] <dayvan_cowboy> great job guys
[07:49] <dayvan_cowboy> I feel sorry for bill gates
[07:49] <dayvan_cowboy> :))
[07:49] <Geoffrey2> can totem-gstreamer play restricted media formats like .wmv?
[07:49] <Geoffrey2> or do I need totem-xine for that?
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> why don't you try and see.
[07:51] <ArrenLex> radar: try commenting out the synaptics block and replacing it with the block given at http://www.popies.net/atp/ ; it can't hurt.
[07:51] <dayvan_cowboy> yo where's sysinfo?
[07:51] <w30> ArrenLex: I have to paste with bash win I get to those vfat file names with the spaces and the slashes because when it gets like /\ /\\ I get lost :=)
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> dayvan_cowboy, you have to install it.
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[07:51] <dayvan_cowboy> gracias
[07:52] <dayvan_cowboy> also I couldn't install wine
[07:52] <dayvan_cowboy> I will try it again
[07:52] <radar1976> ArrenLex k  hold on
[07:52] <dayvan_cowboy> I think it should come with wine
[07:52] <feross> Geoffrey2: hold a sec I got a link for you
[07:52] <porkpie> Morning guys,  I am trying to build a ubuntu server with an 8gb / patition.  I have 146GB hard drive installed but I cannot seem to set the patition to 8GB ...I also want to use ext2 not 3.  The server is going to be running xen
[07:53] <Geoffrey2> okie doke
[07:53] <dayvan_cowboy> E: Couldn't find package sysinfo
[07:53] <dayvan_cowboy> ooppps
[07:53] <en1gma> feross
[07:54] <en1gma> where did that web page go on the sata_raid_howot
[07:54] <en1gma> did you take it down
[07:54] <Flannel> porkpie: ext3 is default in ubuntu, just.. whatever partitioner you want should be fine
[07:54] <feross> Geoffrey2: http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235  edit your sources like it has here then go down to the part about viewing restricted formats unless you want to do any of the other stuff
[07:54] <radar1976> ArrenLex same error
[07:55] <dayvan_cowboy> SUPER COW POWERS! MOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:55] <Sktfeelsdapper> wtf?
[07:55] <ArrenLex> radar: does dmesg | grep -i synap give any insight?
[07:55] <feross> en1gma: hmm I'm still getting it http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto
[07:55] <porkpie> Flannel:this is a fresh install but I can seem to change the partition size ....I want to run LVM as well.
[07:56] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/186602
[07:56] <porkpie> Flannel:it's also running hardware raid 1
[07:56] <blazemonger> I love Ubuntu
[07:56] <shriphani> dayvan_cowboy, did you run aptitude with some trash argument
[07:56] <blazemonger> Ubuntu is going to save the planet
[07:56] <dayvan_cowboy> love she is mine!
[07:56] <radar1976> root@powerbook:/var/log#  dmesg | grep -i synap
[07:56] <radar1976> root@powerbook:/var/log#
[07:56] <radar1976> nothing
[07:56] <en1gma> thnx
[07:56] <dayvan_cowboy> ubuntu is my sexy foxy moma!
[07:56] <feross> porkpie: hmm are the partitions you're trying to resize mounted?
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> yeah... we heard you the first time, dayvan_cowboy
[07:57] <blazemonger> i will say there are some games in the apt sources that crash
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> but she doesn't wanna give me sysinfo with apt-get
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> there is no such a package
[07:57] <blazemonger> but everything else is pretty stable
[07:57] <porkpie> feross:it's at the install stage
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> yes
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> very robost
[07:57] <ArrenLex> radar: that is so weird. What the hell? It... doesn't exist.
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> a little slow
[07:57] <w30>  Bill Clinton loves ubuntu also.
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> but it's good!
[07:57] <Flannel> porkpie: you want the alternate ISO for LVM
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> :))
[07:57] <ArrenLex> radar: and modprobe -v appletouch ?
[07:57] <Flannel> !tell porkpie about LVM
[07:57] <blazemonger> w30: Bill Clinton uses Ubuntu?!?!?!
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> how about bill gates?
[07:57] <Flannel> porkpie: there are ways to do it afterwards, that link should explain it, I believe
[07:57] <dayvan_cowboy> get out of here
[07:57] <blazemonger> Anyone that endorses Ubuntu is worthy of being president hehe
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Bill Clinton totally didn't take down Osama when he had the chance! He is a bad man. :O
[07:58] <radar1976> ArrenLex root@powerbook:/var/log# modprobe -v appletouch
[07:58] <radar1976> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/kernel/drivers/usb/input/appletouch.ko
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Unlike Bush, who totally took down Osama.
[07:58] <dayvan_cowboy> I approved this linux distro!
[07:58] <porkpie> Flannel:where do I get the LVM iso from
[07:58] <dayvan_cowboy> osama cannot use ubuntu
[07:58] <dayvan_cowboy> lol
[07:58] <Flannel> porkpie: the alternate ISO? same place you got the server/desktop/whatever
[07:58] <blazemonger> i thought our military and intelligence took down 0sama
[07:58] <ArrenLex> I bet Osama uses SuSE.
[07:58] <dayvan_cowboy> he spends his time with his goats
[07:58] <porkpie> Flannel:I missed the link
[07:58] <w30> blazemonger: nah, he just discovered the concept ubuntu and used it in a news appearance
[07:58] <feross> don't get me started on politics.. grrr
[07:59] <blazemonger> oh okay
[07:59] <ArrenLex> radar: so I take it... no errors?
[07:59] <blazemonger> i thought clinton used Ubuntu
[07:59] <blazemonger> I think Ralph Nader uses linux lol
[07:59] <w30> blazemonger: it was on news.google.com
[07:59] <dayvan_cowboy> I've been to his library
[07:59] <Flannel> !tell porkpie about lvm
[07:59] <dayvan_cowboy> but I had to walk out because they charge for his presidential library
[07:59] <Flannel> porkpie: and, ubuntu.com/download is the place you need for the Alternate ISO
[08:00] <dayvan_cowboy> which is ridicilus!
[08:00] <Geoffrey2> feross, the wget command for w32codecs does not work any more
[08:00] <porkpie> Flannel:this server is a dual core 64 bit chip set .....with the alternate iso support that ....we want to run xen on it
[08:00] <w30> feross: he didn't inhale or was that Bush?
[08:00] <RodrigoX> which is better... GeForce 6200 256mb DDR2 / 64bits or GeForce FX 5200 256mb DDR / 128bits?
[08:00] <dayvan_cowboy> I think I installed WINE but cannot find the darn application
[08:00] <Flannel> porkpie: yeah, alternate ISO is the same end product, just no graphical installer, and more install options
[08:01] <cpk2> dayvan_cowboy: its just wine /path/to/exr
[08:01] <feross> w30: didn't inhale was Clinton..
[08:01] <ArrenLex> dayvan: "which wine"
[08:01] <dayvan_cowboy> I just found it on terminal
[08:01] <cpk2> errr exe*
[08:01] <dayvan_cowboy> well I'm not a terminal guy just a typical PC /Mac user
[08:01] <porkpie> Cool OK
[08:01] <radar1976> root@powerbook:/var/log# uname -a
[08:01] <radar1976> Linux powerbook 2.6.15-23-powerpc #1 Tue May 23 13:46:54 UTC 2006 ppc GNU/Linux
[08:01] <dayvan_cowboy> thanks
[08:02] <w30> feross: oh, ok thanks
[08:02] <Geoffrey2> feross, it says debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs does not exist
[08:02] <feross> Geoffrey2: k hold a sec
[08:02] <Geoffrey2> feross, okie
[08:02] <dayvan_cowboy> I think I like ubuntu
[08:03] <dayvan_cowboy> it comes with everything but SYSINFO
[08:03] <w30>  /part
[08:03] <dayvan_cowboy> :(
[08:03] <dayvan_cowboy> me cry
[08:03] <BHSPitLappy> huh?
[08:03] <BHSPitLappy> sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[08:03] <BHSPitLappy> or install it in synaptic
[08:03] <ArrenLex> dayvan: "lspci" :P
[08:03] <BHSPitLappy> or Add/Remove
[08:03] <dayvan_cowboy> no such a package
[08:03] <BHSPitLappy> then you haven't enabled the other repos
[08:03] <Madpilot> !info sysinfo
[08:03] <ubotu> sysinfo: Simple GTK program that shows some UNIX/Linux system information. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 508 kB
[08:03] <ArrenLex> Dayvan: it's in univ... yes.
[08:04] <dayvan_cowboy> dayvan@DUAL-P3:~$ sudo apt-get install SYSINFO
[08:04] <dayvan_cowboy> Reading package lists... Done
[08:04] <dayvan_cowboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:04] <dayvan_cowboy> E: Couldn't find package SYSINFO
[08:04] <BHSPitLappy> go into Synaptic, go to the Repositories' settings, and checkmark the unmarked repos
[08:04] <BHSPitLappy> hey
[08:04] <Madpilot> dayvan_cowboy, you need to enable the Universe repo..
[08:04] <BHSPitLappy> capitalization matters
[08:04] <ArrenLex> day: no caps, man! Linux is case sensitive.
[08:04] <BHSPitLappy> all lower case.
[08:04] <feross> Geoffrey2: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[08:05] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: why don't you just search for w32codecs on apt-get.org? xD
[08:05] <SportChick> arrenlex: http://www.kirkanddonna.com/donna/2006/09/girls-internet.htm
[08:05] <orphean> stupid question but what package do I install to get documentation to show up in DevHelp? Ie, I installed libglib2.0-doc but its not showing up in DevHelp.
[08:05] <ArrenLex> ...well that was random.
[08:06] <dayvan_cowboy> uhhhh
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Oh! XD I remember that.
[08:06] <dayvan_cowboy> kirkandonna.com
[08:06] <dayvan_cowboy> gotta go there
[08:06] <dayvan_cowboy> lol
[08:06] <manmadha> My cc compiler is not working ....even for smll programs "Hello world it is displaying error......."& also my gcc compiler is not working ....i have to install any librery files...?
[08:06] <SportChick> ArrenLex: not so random ;)
[08:06] <ArrenLex> "Guy2"? I feel so anonymised.
[08:06] <ArrenLex> AOL would be proud of you.
[08:06] <dayvan_cowboy> if you are a sport chick I'm a sports car
[08:06] <SportChick> names were changed to protect the guilty?
[08:07] <Naked_Snake> Well
[08:07] <Naked_Snake> Here I sit
[08:07] <orphean> I grew up in Redondo Beach SportChick, small world :)
[08:07] <Naked_Snake> Getting stoned, listening to songs my ex-gf sent me, missing her now. And no, we didn't just break up, we did 5 years ago
[08:07] <ArrenLex> Meh, I said it, so there's no point hiding behind it now. I apologise for my statistically-based assumption of your gender. I believe you're female now. Congratulations. =P
[08:07] <SportChick> orphean: really?  hehe, I dind't but I'm there now
[08:07] <Naked_Snake> We just started talking again
[08:08] <Naked_Snake> Holy shit, heh
[08:08] <manmadha> My cc compiler is not working ....even for smll programs "Hello world it is displaying error......."& also my gcc compiler is not working ....i have to install any librery files...?
[08:08] <Flannel> manmadha: have you installed "build-essential"?
[08:08] <radar1976> ArrenLex any other ideas?
[08:08] <ArrenLex> radar: nope, I'm all ideaed out, sorry. Your touchpad is a phantom.
[08:08] <SportChick> ArrenLex: I just thought it appropo to point out your obvious bias - also the fact that you presumed I was trying to get attetion - after sitting on the channel for 4 days without saying a word
[08:09] <manmadha> yaa.... sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:09] <en1gma> feross apt-get install ubuntu-base linux-386 ubuntu-desktop dmraid grub what if i want kubuntu and amd64-generic or whatever it was
[08:09] <orphean> manmadha: Whats the error precisely?
[08:09] <dayvan_cowboy> sudo apt-get uninstall Windows XP
[08:09] <ArrenLex> SportChick: indeed. It was a generalisation and I apologise for it. It was rude and biased of me.
[08:09] <manmadha> 1m
[08:09] <we2by> hi
[08:10] <we2by> is there another taskbar available for gnome?
[08:10] <en1gma> feross "apt-get install ubuntu-base linux-386 ubuntu-desktop dmraid grub" what if i want kubuntu and amd64-generic or whatever it was
[08:10] <ChickenTalons> if I install ubuntu on a pentium-d 805 will it install the 32 or 64bit version by default?
[08:10] <dayvan_cowboy> I like my big fat CPUs
[08:10] <dayvan_cowboy> but cannot see them working
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Chicken: you choose what install CD you download.
[08:10] <SportChick> s/powre/power/
[08:10] <manmadha> kodali.c:2:18: error: conio.h: No such file or directory
[08:11] <ChickenTalons> ArrenLex, right on, ive never attempted anything with 64bit
[08:11] <ChickenTalons> lots and lots of 32
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Chicken: I've tried to run a 64bit system on my AMD64. It was a nightmare.
[08:11] <ChickenTalons> weak - i might go w gentoo for 64bit
[08:12] <manmadha> orphean, kodali.c:2:18: error: conio.h: No such file or directory
[08:12] <radar1976> grrr this sucks.... I want my trackpad to work correctly!!
[08:13] <feross> en1gma: my head hurts.. gonna sleep now.. :) but I guess just change it and try.. it should be linux-amd64 or something like that just add kubuntu to the list.
[08:13] <ArrenLex> manmad: what are you trying to compile?
[08:13] <manmadha> orphean, Flannel basically this is the prog..#include<stdio.h>
[08:13] <manmadha> #include<conio.h>
[08:13] <manmadha> void main()
[08:13] <manmadha> {printf("Hello world");
[08:13] <manmadha> }
[08:13] <en1gma> feross thnx for your help man
[08:13] <manmadha> sorry for floding
[08:13] <orphean> manmadha: conio.h isn't standard :)
[08:13] <orphean> manmadha: hence, most likely not installed. get rid of it.
[08:14] <ArrenLex> madman: conio.h -> stdio.h
[08:14] <manmadha> orphean, ya i included stdio.h also
[08:14] <dayvan_cowboy> exit();
[08:14] <dayvan_cowboy> for you
[08:14] <manmadha> thank u da
[08:14] <orphean> Arrenlex, close, conio.h provides things like kbhit() and the like.
[08:14] <orphean> dos/win programmers use it alot. at least used to.
[08:17] <dayvan_cowboy> how can I activate 1440X900 WXGA+ screen resolution?
[08:17] <dayvan_cowboy> I know my computer supports it but somehow it doesn't list it
[08:17] <we2by> guys, how do u change the brown background you see before ubuntu shows the login screen? and the brown screen after you press enter, before it reaches the desktop itself?
[08:18] <orphean> dayvan_cowboy: you'll need to etc /etc/X11/xorg.conf  Add 1440x900 to the 'Modes' lines (you'll see them, Modes followed by screen resolutions)
[08:18] <dayvan_cowboy> I personally think that Ubuntu is unique and it really doesn't need Mac alike desktop
[08:18] <orphean> so long as your video card/monitor support it it'll show up
[08:18] <dayvan_cowboy> please do change it it is getting cheesy everybody is copying mac desktop
[08:18] <we2by> lol, mine is a mix of os X and vista
[08:18] <we2by> :D
[08:19] <Flannel> !tell dayvan_cowboy about fixres
[08:19] <we2by> dayvan_cowboy, too bad no one can come  up with a better theme
[08:19] <dayvan_cowboy> si
[08:19] <dayvan_cowboy> hmm
[08:19] <dayvan_cowboy> i can hook you up
[08:19] <dayvan_cowboy> bro
[08:19] <dayvan_cowboy> I like UBUNTU
[08:19] <ArrenLex> dayvan: you can install whatever desktop you like on ubuntu. If you want, install twm and then it won't look like anything produced in the past two decades.
[08:19] <dayvan_cowboy> yes
[08:20] <we2by> http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrr3.png
[08:20] <Geoffrey2> ok, the question still remains, how do I play .wmv?
[08:20] <dayvan_cowboy> anyway it's good
[08:20] <we2by> mac OSX and Vista combined
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: with what program?
[08:20] <en1gma> what does this line "apt-get install ubuntu-base linux-386 ubuntu-desktop dmraid grub" translate into for kubuntu and amd64 x2
[08:20] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, how about totem-xine?
[08:20] <schmity> hey
[08:21] <schmity> can i install ubuntu onto an external drive and boot it off of that?
[08:21] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: it refuses to accepts w32codecs?
[08:21] <radar1976> we2by what theme is that?
[08:21] <Flannel> en1gma: same thing, except for the linux-386
[08:21] <ArrenLex> accept? *
[08:21] <radar1976> I like it
[08:21] <en1gma> what is going on
[08:21] <schmity> can i install ubuntu onto an external drive and boot it off of that?
[08:21] <we2by> radar1976, Vista theme for Emerald
[08:22] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, I can't find a valid download source for it
[08:22] <radar1976> where do I get it?
[08:22] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: have you looked on apt-get.org?
[08:22] <radar1976> any ideas what this is and how can I fix it?
[08:22] <radar1976> Sep 30 00:16:27 powerbook kernel: [37749.866460]  [drm:radeon_do_init_cp]  *ERROR* Cannot initialise DRM on this card
[08:22] <radar1976> Sep 30 00:16:27 powerbook kernel: [37749.866468]  This card requires a new X.org DDX
[08:22] <we2by> forum.beryl-project.org
[08:22] <we2by> you need beryl running first
[08:22] <schmity> can i install ubuntu onto an external drive and boot it off of that?
[08:22] <ArrenLex> radar: what card?
[08:23] <en1gma> why do i keep getting disconnected from #ubuntu only
[08:23] <radar1976> ATi 9700
[08:23] <radar1976> PB G4
[08:23] <en1gma> wtf is going on
[08:23] <ArrenLex> radar: and what driver are you trying to use?
[08:23] <dayvan_cowboy> I think my graphics adapter doesn't support that res 1440X900
[08:23] <radar1976> we2by oh and probably no support for PPC
[08:23] <foureight84> i have a question about installing deb packages
[08:23] <dayvan_cowboy> it's matrox G450
[08:24] <dayvan_cowboy> dualhead
[08:24] <we2by> radar1976, ATI should work
[08:24] <radar1976> ArrenLex  ATI Radeon
[08:24] <foureight84> i'm trying to install suspend2 and i need to install this file linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.suspend2-2.2.7.4-3_i386.deb
[08:24] <we2by> radar1976, dunno. I got a macbook here.
[08:24] <radar1976> ahh
[08:24] <nidontknow> Hello all. Looking for help with a webcam.
[08:24] <phargle> that filename is too short
[08:24] <dayvan_cowboy> change your nick to gurlcam4u
[08:24] <ArrenLex> radar: the driver you're using in your xorg.conf file.
[08:24] <dayvan_cowboy> you can get better help
[08:24] <nidontknow> I'm looking for a program like Movie Maker or IMovie that will allow me to capture video from a webcam.
[08:24] <dayvan_cowboy> hehe
[08:24] <foureight84> but my kernel version is 1.6.15-27 not -26 like the package, would that break my os?
[08:24] <Codeus> I am installing Ubuntu 6.06 and first it hung at mounting drives for a few minutes, now it is hung at "starting enterprise volume management system" and it has been a few minutes, is this normal?
[08:24] <phargle> gurlNBC13
[08:25] <radar1976> Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 NP [Mobility Radeon 9600/9700 M10/M11] "
[08:25] <radar1976>         Driver          "ati"
[08:25] <ArrenLex> radar: "ati" provides no 3D acceleration at all.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> radar: try using the "radeon" driver.
[08:26] <radar1976> hmm ok
[08:26] <phargle> there cards barely do aswell
[08:26] <dayvan_cowboy> okay I changed it to 1280X800 that's fits better
[08:26] <foureight84> i need to install linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.suspend2-2.2.7.4-3_i386.deb, but my kernel is 2.6.15-27-386 the version is off, would that break by box?
[08:27] <dayvan_cowboy> speaking of webcams does ubuntu support hotswapping of USB webcams like logitech buddy cam?
[08:28] <Codeus> how long should it take for the install to start the enterprice volume management system?
[08:29] <schmity> fuck
[08:29] <ArrenLex> !language
[08:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:30] <foureight84> anyone?
[08:30] <Asc> foureight84: Most likely, you would just install the kernel and boot from it, and you would be using the different kernel.  It shouldn't break anything.
[08:30] <Codeus> how do i disable dma in the installation?
[08:31] <foureight84> Asc, so i can jsut install it then even though one is mean for 2.6.15-26 and mine is 2.6.15-27
[08:31] <foureight84> i just wanna make sure
[08:32] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys how can i view the linux kernel. just started with C. thought it might be interesting. ;-)
[08:32] <THX-1138> Best tool for encoding V.B.R .    *.wma >  *.ogg      ?
[08:33] <Asc> foureight84: Installing a kernel doesn't affect others that are installed.
[08:33] <foureight84> okay thanks
[08:33] <THX-1138> Hi Asc
[08:34] <Asc> 'lo THX
[08:34] <cpk2> argh has anyone gotten warcraft 3 to work with wine?
[08:34] <i386> can anyone here confirm that edgy beta 1 ships with a working ndiswrappers stack?
[08:34] <THX-1138> cpk2 - a bit off-topic but, how far along did you get?
[08:34] <Flannel> i386: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[08:34] <i386> Thanks Flannel
[08:35] <cpk2> THX-1138: i cant get onto battle.net =(
[08:35] <cpk2> THX-1138: i suppose i should join #wine heh
[08:35] <cpk2> /join #wine
[08:35] <jacky> does anyone know how to develop gfxboot-theme?
[08:35] <cpk2> oops
[08:35] <THX-1138> cpk2 #WINE or cedega likely know best. - Does battlenet have punkbuster? - gey any pb errors?
[08:36] <cpk2> no punkbuster
[08:36] <Geoffrey2> I'm getting an unsafe ownership error on gpg.conf......
[08:36] <cpk2> it most likely has to do with the no cd crack i have to use
[08:37] <Codeus> Does anyone else have a problem with the installation hanging on "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System"
[08:37] <THX-1138> cpk2 - maybe we can be sneaky and ask the question a different way. Worth a try eh?      Where does ubuntu keep connection log errors?
[08:37] <eylisian> lock desktop in Xubuntu silently fails. nothing in Xorg.0.log, /var/log/messages, dmesg... anyone have a direction they might suggest in troubleshooting this?
[08:38] <cpk2> no clue? =\
[08:38] <radar1976> grrrr
[08:38] <TriGz> Hello :D
[08:38] <radar1976> this sucks!
[08:38] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me with a gpg error when trying to download a key?
[08:38] <THX-1138> Hi TriGz
[08:38] <fysaen> Good morning everyone.. =)
[08:38] <TriGz> How are you all this sunny morning? :)
[08:38] <TriGz> ffs :(
[08:39] <TriGz> i always get paranoid when partitioning lol
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Pah. It's 12:39 AM here.
[08:39] <TriGz> i've messed my whole HD up 3 times doing it :(
[08:39] <fysaen> Heh, in here it's 09.39 am
[08:39] <THX-1138> TriGz - You aren't one of those cheerful Aussies are you it's midnight in the U.S. and we need coffee. - j/k
[08:40] <TriGz> Lol. No, i'm from the UK :)
[08:40] <radar1976> ArrenLex hey me in calgary
[08:40] <radar1976> hehe
[08:40] <radar1976> hows it going neigbour
[08:41] <THX-1138> WoW play okay so no withdrawel symptoms so, i guess everything is okay.
[08:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guyshow can i view the linux kernel please
[08:41] <TriGz> :O!
[08:41] <TriGz> WoW on linux?!
[08:41] <radar1976> why Arc
[08:41] <radar1976> err ArrenLex
[08:41] <Flannel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: download the source
[08:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> no other way?
[08:41] <TriGz> THX-1138 - WoW on linux? :P
[08:42] <ArrenLex> radar: IP string?
[08:42] <radar1976> PunjabiFLOYDIAN  that is the only why to see source
[08:42] <THX-1138> TriGz - yes, very little of the copy protection scheme CD business on WoW it works pretty well.
[08:42] <radar1976> ArrenLex huh?
[08:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok thanks
[08:42] <ArrenLex> radar: How did you know where I'm from? xD
[08:42] <TriGz> Hmm
[08:42] <radar1976> ed.shawcable.net
[08:42] <TriGz> THX-1138 - Runs through wine im guessing?
[08:42] <radar1976> ed = edmonton
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Yes, that's what I was asking.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Yeah.
[08:42] <radar1976> cg = calgary
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Hallo neighbour.
[08:42] <radar1976> hehe
[08:43] <radar1976> vn = north vancouver
[08:43] <THX-1138> TriGz - Yes, There is a patch for it. or Cedega d/l and run.
[08:43] <TriGz> THX-1138 heh. We'll in re-installing linux just now.. Havn't used it for 2 or so years ^^
[08:44] <TriGz> I'm*
[08:44] <THX-1138> TriGz - Just reactivated after a year away. (Didn't sell any of your gear did you? - i did sheesh..)
[08:44] <TriGz> THX-1138 - Lol, I've got a 6/9 Tier 3 Priest ^^
[08:45] <TriGz> THX-1138 - Don't plan on quitting any time soon :)
[08:45] <THX-1138> TriGz - WoW Priests on Ubuntu linux - It doesn't get any better than that. - lvl 60 on an Oceana server
[08:46] <TriGz> :P
[08:46] <TriGz> THX-1138 - Well if you want a full list... 60 nelf priest, 60 nelf rogue, 60 orc shammy, 60 gnome warlock, 60 dwarf hunter, 60 undead mage ^^ -- All on Talnivarr EU PvP Realm.
[08:47] <THX-1138> TriGz - Now that is awesome.
[08:47] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to download a file from debian-multimedia.org, however I need to download a key to gain access, but I can't download it because I get an error about the gpg.conf ownership settings being unsafe, can anyone tell me what they SHOULD be set too?
[08:47] <TriGz> THX-1138 - Not really, just have alot of time on my hands ^^
[08:47] <TriGz> Am i sad for installing Ubuntu 5.10? xD - CBA downloading, friend gave me this CD ^^
[08:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> I really got a question about making nicotine able to execute with click instead of terminal.
[08:48] <TriGz> mmm, Now nicotine.That's a hell of an idea, Thanks Sktfeelsdapper
[08:48] <we2by> any ones know how you can configure the menu this way? http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3lx3.jpg
[08:48] <THX-1138> TriGz - Likely bandwidth isn't all you can eat where you are but it still might be easier to grab the latest iso.
[08:49] <TriGz> THX-1138 - Lol, i have unlimited Bandwidth. Could download 6.12 in about 25 mins :P
[08:49] <TriGz> THX-1138 - just as i said.. cba :P
[08:49] <Naked_Snake> Dude
[08:49] <TriGz> + im almost done installing ^^
[08:49] <Naked_Snake> Ubuntu is a fuckin' cool name and a funny word to say
[08:50] <TriGz> L
[08:50] <TriGz> Lol*
[08:50] <ArrenLex> !language
[08:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:50] <radar1976> !language
[08:50] <cafuego> we2by: Yah, that requires the latest version of Gnome, the latest Xgl and cgwd and extreme desperation.
[08:50] <radar1976> :(
[08:50] <TriGz> Ok, Brb going for a cigarette.
[08:50] <Sktfeelsdapper> Caise O dpm
[08:50] <radar1976> not winning with touchpad issues!!
[08:50] <radar1976> grrr
[08:50] <THX-1138> TriGz - the latest vers. of Xorg probably will speed up gaming. - someone else may know better than i.
[08:50] <we2by> cafuego, I have beryl with emerald installed
[08:50] <we2by> running perfect.
[08:50] <radar1976> ArrenLex hey!
[08:51] <ArrenLex> Not you, radar!
[08:51] <we2by> dunno if gnome is the latest version :\
[08:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> Cause I don't want to have to keep going to command line for the stupid nicotine+
[08:51] <radar1976> oh
[08:51] <radar1976> k
[08:52] <ArrenLex> Radar: did you check out the page I sent you?
[08:52] <radar1976> ArrenLex yes.... nothing
[08:52] <THX-1138> Sktfeelsdapper: Couldn't you just create a desktop link to a bash script?
[08:52] <radar1976> I have powerbook  not macbook
[08:52] <radar1976> ;(
[08:52] <WinterWeaver> Hey everyone ^_^ .... I have a question about Nvidia, it's a funny one O.o
[08:52] <TriGz> WinterWeaver - Shoot :)
[08:52] <ArrenLex> Is it the one where Nvidia walks into a bar?
[08:53] <Geoffrey2> this is the part of linux that drives me batty....
[08:53] <ArrenLex> I think I've heard that one.
[08:53] <WinterWeaver> lol
[08:53] <THX-1138> ArrenLex: lol
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: are you still trying to get w32codecs?
[08:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know Thx.
[08:53] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, with absolutely no luck whatsoever
[08:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> Because I tried one earlier and it didn't work.
[08:53] <Schalken> do i have to do checkinstall as root to make a deb?
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: if so, just freaking download it from the mplayer site and untar it into /usr/lib/win32
[08:53] <WinterWeaver> naah... the Package manager..... they say that I have to enable nvidia-glx  and nvidia-settings
[08:53] <WinterWeaver> but
[08:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> #! usr/bin/blah blah and all that
[08:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> but I couldn't get it to work.
[08:53] <WinterWeaver> if I enable the one, it disables the other ??
[08:54] <ArrenLex> Geoff: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/essential-20060611.tar.bz2
[08:54] <ArrenLex> Enjoy.
[08:54] <radar1976> ArrenLex powerbook is the G4 line,  macbook is the intel macs
[08:54] <shriphani> Geoffrey2, seveas repos should have w32 codecs
[08:54] <SilentDissonance> hello :)
[08:54] <radar1976> my wife has the macbook pro (also intel based)
[08:54] <WinterWeaver> TriGz, if I enable the one, it disables the other ?? (nvidia-glx & nvidia-settings)
[08:54] <TriGz> Damn - This is one long ass install :(.. I hate installing os's :(
[08:54] <radar1976> but I don't get to play on that one...
[08:55] <shriphani> radar1976, play as in gaming ?
[08:55] <cafuego> ArrenLex: There is a w32codecs.deb
[08:55] <WinterWeaver> TriGz: but I read that I have to install both....
[08:55] <SportChick> ArrenLex: hehe
[08:55] <TriGz> Erm.. I wouldn't know matey sorry :P I thought you ment nVidia in general. I havn't touched linux in 2 years :P Just comming back to it today :)
[08:55] <markeib> is it normal that i almost can't write anything in msn-based messengers while having a video-conversation?
[08:55] <Unimatrix9> hello all
[08:55] <Schalken> do i have to do checkinstall as root to make a deb?
[08:55] <ArrenLex> cafeugo: yes there is. But he's been trying to find one for a long time now and he's not been successful.
[08:55] <WinterWeaver> lmao
[08:55] <TriGz> WinterWeaver - 2 seconds, i'll have a quick look into it :)
[08:55] <Unimatrix9> welcome back
[08:55] <Unimatrix9> :)
[08:55] <ArrenLex> Radar: what's the point of getting a mac computer to install Linux on it? It runs better on ix86 machines.
[08:56] <we2by> http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3lx3.jpg I want this menu! :(
[08:56] <Unimatrix9> its free software, as in freedom
[08:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> so yah i don't know how to do that whole "bash script" thing and chances are i'd better not try because i've had to reinstall nicotine+ like 3 times.
[08:56] <TriGz> Go and buy windws vista? :P
[08:56] <Unimatrix9> does any one know where i find an nice big ubuntu logo?
[08:56] <WinterWeaver> doesn't some of the new mac's have ix86 processors?? sorry... i'm not too technical :P
[08:56] <Unimatrix9> on the web..
[08:56] <shriphani> TriGz, vista has this sudo like thing now doesnt it
[08:56] <Unimatrix9> for big poster
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Winter: yes.
[08:56] <cafuego> ArrenLex: it's on the wiki, where it's always been. http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[08:57] <TriGz> Have logitech given Linux G15 support yet? ^^
[08:57] <Unimatrix9> logo ubuntu
[08:57] <radar1976> ArrenLex run Mac + OSX + Windows all on the same machine
[08:57] <TriGz> You got a terrabyte HD or something? lol
[08:57] <WinterWeaver> lmao
[08:57] <THX-1138> ArrenLex: Grab and save it. - that isn't one of those sketchy skull and crossbones repositories.
[08:57] <TriGz> I had to delete most of my games to create the partition for ubuntu :( let alone OSX aswell! lol
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: hear that? That's how you get help =P next time ask all your questions by proxy.
[08:57] <markeib> i wonder if i should update if i'm not having problems with my system... because sometimes updating creates more problems than it solves.. so should i?
[08:58] <SilentDissonance> has anyone had any luck getting the ATI closed-source drivers to work under Ubuntu?  I ask because i have yet to get decent hardware acceleration working yet, and I'm not sure where to go next :(
[08:58] <cafuego> Geoffrey2:  http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[08:58] <we2by> installing 3 OS is not a problem though. running all 3 of them at the same time is my problem
[08:58] <cafuego> markeib: The standard ubuntu update solves problems and doesn't create them - security fixes.
[08:58] <Unimatrix9> big ubuntu logo, where can i find it?
[08:59] <markeib> ok ok ok
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> SilentDissonance: I tried it once, and got really good framerates but it was buggy so I had hard lockup issues when switching terminal-X and back.
[08:59] <cafuego> Unimatrix9: Have you looked on the wiki?
[08:59] <Unimatrix9> yes
[08:59] <Unimatrix9> all small
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Unimatrix: on the magical place where all the knowledge of the world is found. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Ubuntu_Logo.svg
[08:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> bash script=launcher, anyone?
[08:59] <SilentDissonance> tonyyarusso:  what are you using now for your vid drivers, may I ask?
[08:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> what's this all about "it's not where you say it's at" business.
[08:59] <ChickenTalons> SilentDissonance, I got them to work just fine, i used the ati driver from ati
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> SilentDissonance: Stock ones from installation.  "ati" in xorg.conf
[09:00] <markeib> so what about video conversations? can they work without the programme executing them becoming veeery slow?
[09:00] <cafuego> Unimatrix9: Dude, they're SVGs.
[09:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> in my folder I have nicotine at /home/skt/nicotine+-1.2.5.1/nicotine
[09:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> but I tried that and it didn't work, and someone told me that's not the right place.
[09:00] <TriGz2> im baa-aack :P
[09:00] <SilentDissonance> hmm... everything I've tried, I end up with very poor performance in the HW accelerated screen savers, as well as when I try to run games in Cedega
[09:01] <TriGz2> SilentDissonance - Learn to nVidia :P
[09:01] <ChickenTalons> SilentDissonance, thats ATI + Linux for you
[09:01] <ChickenTalons> SilentDissonance, thats the very reason I bought an nvidia card
[09:01] <SilentDissonance> darn :(
[09:02] <ChickenTalons> ATI is hell on wheels for gaming in windows but its pure crap in linux, even when you get it running
[09:02] <TriGz2> 87% installed ^^
[09:02] <ChickenTalons> you might even get decent framerates but its never been all that stable
[09:02] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: you have  /home/skt/nicotine+-1.2.5.1/nicotine and want it to launch from where?
[09:02] <ChickenTalons> it really bites too, because some of those ATI cards are really fantastic
[09:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> desktop
[09:03] <we2by> what's the tool called that download wallpapers from art.gnome.org?
[09:03] <Sktfeelsdapper> someone told me it was some #! usr/bin command or something.
[09:03] <ChickenTalons> 9800 pro 256 comes to mind, back in the day it ruled
[09:03] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: Gnome desktop?
[09:03] <SilentDissonance> i might just do that at this point.  I'm used to *nix, I use it on all my servers and such...  but never even played with XWindows stuff.  I grabbed ubuntu and i REALLY like what I see...  this is my only sticking point, I'm an SWG addict.  rofl
[09:03] <Sktfeelsdapper> Uh I think so. Haha
[09:03] <TriGz2> That's a good question actually... Is Ubuntu 5.10 Gnome?
[09:03] <ChickenTalons> SilentDissonance, im pretty sure they have the ati drivers as part of the linux-restricted-modules
[09:03] <cafuego> TriGz2: Of course. So is 5.04
[09:03] <cafuego> ChickenTalons: They do.
[09:03] <TriGz2> OMG..
[09:04] <TriGz2> erm.. Big problem with my monitor if anyone wants to help :)
[09:04] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: command line   cd ~/Desktop
[09:04] <ChickenTalons> cafuego, right on - Ubuntu's the only competition to windows until someone makes OSx run on x86
[09:04] <TriGz2> Well not my monitor... But my erm.. well.. What i see :P
[09:04] <cafuego> ChickenTalons: OSX runs fine on x86.
[09:04] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: command line   ln -s /home/skt/nicotine+-1.2.5.1/nicotine nicotine
[09:04] <SilentDissonance> TriGz2:  comment from the peanut gallery:  if it's smoking, the NoSmoke.exe command must be run from windows, wine doesn't support it well enough yet.  *smirk*
[09:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> what does ln do?
[09:05] <TriGz2> Lol Silent..
[09:05] <ChickenTalons> cafuego, its not an official thing, im talking about when its a viable option for end-users
[09:05] <TriGz2> No it's erm.. Well
[09:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> and do i have to put nicotine at the end twice?
[09:05] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: ln is link the -s arg is soft
[09:05] <TriGz2> I see pixelated, purple, blue, green, white, yelow ext, you get the idea..
[09:05] <cafuego> ChickenTalons: Not official? What about all that x86 hardware Apple are selling? ;-)
[09:05] <tamma> yytyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:05] <SilentDissonance> sorry, 6 years in tech support hell jaded me to it.... so humor becomes my knee-jerk reaction.  lol
[09:05] <TriGz2> Think it's just a config problem. If anyone would like to explain how to fix it, i would really appriciate it <3
[09:05] <Unimatrix9> got some logo's
[09:06] <cafuego> Sktfeelsdapper: it creates links to files or directories (like Shortcuts in WIndows, but not braindead).
[09:06] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: look close nicotene is at the end of the path but then there is a space. thats the name of the soft link created.
[09:06] <Unimatrix9> but its kind of strange that there are no big official ones
[09:06] <ChickenTalons> cafuego, thats their proprietary x86 setups, im talking on non-apple x86 machines
[09:06] <ArrenLex> 'night, all.
[09:06] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: command line  man ln
[09:06] <Unimatrix9> ubuntu team , start making big logo's!
[09:06] <cafuego> Unimatrix9: The logos on the wiki are in SVG format. the 'S' stands for Scalable.
[09:06] <Sktfeelsdapper> should i try that right now? everytime i've tried anything nicotine stops working.
[09:06] <TriGz2> THX-1138 - You there? :P
[09:06] <Unimatrix9> i know
[09:06] <ArrenLex> Unimatrix: they're freaking SVG!
[09:06] <ChickenTalons> although I am giving serious consideration to buying a mac mini
[09:06] <ArrenLex> Scale them!
[09:06] <ChickenTalons> what an impressive little machine
[09:07] <Geoffrey2> ah, finally.... :)
[09:07] <cafuego> ChickenTalons: Hmmyah. Not likely. (as in: ever)
[09:07] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: what did you end up using? xD
[09:07] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: to change back you remove the link from your desktop with "rm". nothing about nicotene is going to change.
[09:07] <ArrenLex> cries *
[09:07] <Unimatrix9> maybe i am looking at the wrong wiki?
[09:07] <Unimatrix9> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[09:07] <TriGz2> Anyone not busy atm? lol i wanna play with ubuntu :(
[09:07] <Unimatrix9> is that the one?
[09:07] <cafuego> Unimatrix9: wiki.ubuntu.com -> Artwork. Second list.
[09:07] <Sktfeelsdapper> But the problem is I have to start up nicotine from the command line, will it launch without having the terminal open?
[09:08] <ChickenTalons> cafuego, its a shame too, would be a very nice alternative to winders, not to mention running things like avid or protools
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Uni: the .svg file I gave you wasn't good enough? :P
[09:08] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: most likely.
[09:08] <THX-1138> Hi TriGz
[09:08] <Unimatrix9> ok, i am awake now!
[09:08] <Unimatrix9> ;)
[09:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> well cross all our fingers
[09:08] <ChickenTalons> although i'll be trying out protools LE on windows in a month or two with a digi 002
[09:08] <TriGz2> THX-1138 - You seem rather smart :P.
[09:08] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: and if it doesn't we will wish it did and try something else =)
[09:08] <Unimatrix9> it took some time, i agree...:P
[09:09] <SilentDissonance> ok... payday is monday... my ikkle boxxen has an AGP4x slot, and i have around $150 to drop on a card.  recommendations for a new nVidia vid card? :)
[09:09] <TriGz2> THX-1138 - I've just finished installing ubuntu, and i see like.. well pixels, no login screen or nothing.. My monitor is full of Pixels :(
[09:09] <cafuego> ChickenTalons: Help develop Cinelerra!
[09:09] <THX-1138> I follow cafuego and Amarant \h around wherever they go.  - their wives hate i was thrown out of their workplaces  twicew
[09:09] <ChickenTalons> cafuego, thats a very nice program, and the built in clustering tool is really nice, but its no avid
[09:10] <cafuego> THX-1138: put the pills down and step away from the jar.
[09:10] <TriGz2> someone help me fix my monitor :(
[09:10] <aeroSoul> TriGz: when do you see the pixels? right after grub?
[09:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> it didn't run.
[09:10] <TriGz2> When you would normally see a login screen.
[09:10] <THX-1138> TriDz  - cafuego may be more helpful.
[09:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> it started up in terminal and then disappeared.
[09:11] <aeroSoul> TriGz2: so the splash screen after grub works?
[09:11] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: bummer. but interesting.
[09:11] <TriGz2> aeroSoul - If you mean where everything loads ect yes.
[09:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> what are all these klauncher things in my system monitor?
[09:11] <aeroSoul> ok sry.. cant help then.. i had pixel prob with splash... removed the kernel option and it worked
[09:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> do i have gnome?
[09:12] <TriGz2> aeroSoul - But where you would start seeing image's.. It is pixels. I remember having this problem 3-4 years ago. It was a config problem, but i cant remember how i fixed it :(
[09:12] <Netslayer> trying to run gksu "update-manager -c -d" but it's failing with ubuntu-desktop, so i installed ubuntu-desktop and it's still failing..any ideas?
[09:12] <aeroSoul> TriGz: what happens if you push ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[09:12] <TriGz2> Ask's me to log in
[09:12] <aeroSoul> will you get a terminal without problems?
[09:12] <TriGz2> :0
[09:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> kio_uiserver for example
[09:12] <TriGz2> Yeap.
[09:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> knotify do i have kde?
[09:13] <aeroSoul> you could login and try stuff like dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:13] <aeroSoul> to configure the gfx card
[09:13] <aeroSoul> then /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:13] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper:  sounds like kde (or gnome with a bunch of kde stuff installed =)
[09:13] <THX-1138> TriGz - If you have a live cd linux around maybe it's your monitors refresh rate. open a terminal from the live cd and edit /etc/xorg.conf
[09:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> Does that change anything?
[09:14] <TriGz2> aeroSoul - Commands would be more helpful :P i havn't used linux in 2 or so years :P
[09:14] <aeroSoul> login then:
[09:14] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper:  what are the permissions on the nicotene file in /home/skt/nicotine+-1.2.5.1/nicotine?
[09:14] <aeroSoul> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:14] <aeroSoul> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:14] <eylisian> s/nicotene/nicotine
[09:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> owner is read write execute
[09:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> group is read write execute
[09:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> err rather group is read execute
[09:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> others read execute
[09:16] <danf_1979> hi
[09:16] <Geoffrey2> ok, codecs installed....now the video display is overly bright, almost completely white....I thought I'd solved that problem when I installed 915resolution (I have an Intel chipset)
[09:16] <aeroSoul> TriGz2: you might want to select the "vesa" gfx driver in the reconfigure... it should work with every gfx vcard
[09:16] <danf_1979> is there any ape (sound) codec in the repos?
[09:16] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper:  that should be good to go if it is the execuable. darn. I don't know a thing about the app either.
[09:17] <TriGz2> aeroSoul - well i have a nVdia 6600GT if that helps.
[09:17] <TriGz2> AGP. ;p
[09:17] <TriGz2> i just done the reconfigure thing again, just rebooting to see if it helps.
[09:17] <aeroSoul> i have a voodoo3 from 1998 in my linux pc... dont know how to install nvidia drivers =)
[09:17] <aeroSoul> noneed to reboot...
[09:18] <aeroSoul> you will see if it works after gdm restart
[09:18] <TriGz2> well i rebooted ;p
[09:18] <aeroSoul> if not you have to reconfigure again anyway
[09:18] <TriGz2> Splash is showing fine. everything be loading :D
[09:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah and I just tried to open up Nicotine and it almost starts, flashes on the screen and then dies.
[09:19] <aeroSoul> Sktfeelsdapper: any error msgs in the terminal?
[09:19] <aeroSoul> or did you start it via icon
[09:19] <shone_zlo> hey guys
[09:19] <TriGz2> it didnt work...
[09:19] <TriGz2> maybe its my framerate?
[09:19] <aeroSoul> TriGz2: which gfx driver did you select in reconfigure?
[09:19] <TriGz2> nv
[09:20] <shone_zlo> does ubuntu have a file where it writes witch packages are installred?
[09:20] <aeroSoul> try vesa for now and see if it works
[09:20] <aeroSoul> then read a tutorial how to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu
[09:20] <TriGz2> ok
[09:20] <Codeus> ubuntu sucks
[09:20] <SportChick> 39
[09:20] <TriGz2> sudo dkpg-reconfigure ?
[09:20] <aeroSoul> ? = xserver-xorg
[09:20] <THX-1138> shone_zlo: Synaptic will show you grphically.
[09:20] <SilentDissonance> why do you say that odeus?
[09:20] <TriGz2> ok :d
[09:21] <shone_zlo> yeh, but i managet to screw it up
[09:21] <aeroSoul> i used suse for 2 years and debian for 4 years... and i have to say ubuntu roxx =)
[09:21] <shone_zlo> cant remove one package
[09:21] <shone_zlo> so i thought to erase it from some list, and kill files manually
[09:21] <shone_zlo> is it at all posible?
[09:21] <eylisian> aeroSoul: I have to agree.
[09:21] <SilentDissonance> ahhh, a moron.  nice to see stupidity doesn't fail here.  rather refreshing that the downfall of society is everywhere, and that no place is safe.  </sarcasm>
[09:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> hold on let me go try this again at the command line
[09:22] <davin> Codeus: This is a support channel, other stuff goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:23] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper:  ok. what are you going to try?
[09:23] <TriGz2> ok..
[09:23] <TriGz2> how do i find my monitors horizontal sync range? lol
[09:23] <THX-1138> shone_zlo: I still don't know if you want to reinstall a few files or the entire desktop. (read a massive reinstall) What do you need to fix?
[09:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> [error=13] 
[09:23] <aeroSoul> TriGz2: i always use default value...
[09:23] <aeroSoul> if there is nothing i just press enter
[09:23] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper:  that error is in response to what command?
[09:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> It says "Permission denied"
[09:24] <shone_zlo> i installed ltmodem-2.6.8-1-686
[09:24] <shone_zlo> and it broke during the install
[09:24] <eylisian> ah.
[09:24] <shone_zlo> now i cant remove no matter what i do
[09:24] <Sktfeelsdapper> '/home/skt/.nicotine
[09:24] <TriGz2> do you know how do find out though aero? them words seem strangely familiar
[09:24] <shone_zlo> but when i try to update or install something new
[09:24] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper:  can you run it gksudo nicotene &
[09:24] <khaije1> anyone here use the konversation irc client?
[09:24] <shone_zlo> it tries to remove ltmodem frsti
[09:24] <shone_zlo> so im stuck
[09:24] <aeroSoul> TriGz2: well dont know... would use google
[09:24] <THX-1138> shone_zlo: So Using synaptic you weren't able to reinstall your modem? - What isn't working?
[09:24] <khaije1> the OSD feature isn't working for me, can't figure why
[09:25] <THX-1138> shone_zlo: What happens if you type sudo ifconfig?
[09:25] <shone_zlo> it works?
[09:26] <eylisian> SilentDissonance: eylisian is trying to quit nicotine =(
[09:26] <aeroSoul> does anyone know why the packages openwebmail and prozilla aren't in dapper?
[09:26] <eylisian> aeroSoul: universe and multiverse included?
[09:26] <aeroSoul> yes
[09:26] <THX-1138> shone_zlo: Just trying to work backwards from what we know works the ifconfig command to what doesn't and gather info along the way.
[09:27] <eylisian> aeroSoul: not a clue in the world.
[09:27] <aeroSoul> hmmm
[09:27] <aeroSoul> now it is available... wasnt 2 weeks ago
[09:27] <shone_zlo> im using adsl and it works...
[09:27] <aeroSoul> no not right... it's a package i created that is shown...
[09:27] <shone_zlo> tried to give it modem driver and it didnt work :D
[09:28] <eylisian> aeroSoul: I see nothing resembling the named packages either.
[09:28] <THX-1138> shone_zlo: Thats great! - now please i am begging you while i still look erm smart. don't ask me to install iptables and astrisk. - that was a very nerdy try at humor.
[09:28] <aeroSoul> eylisian: it's in warty and hoary...
[09:29] <eylisian> aeroSoul: ah. damn do they backport the otherway? =)
[09:29] <Sktfeelsdapper> wait, why did it just say /home/skt/.nicotine
[09:29] <Sktfeelsdapper> i don't get it
[09:30] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper:  one sec...
[09:30] <THX-1138> shone_zlo: Stick around learn a little give a little away so others can learn.
[09:30] <TriGz> pewpewpew lazer guns
[09:30] <TriGz> If you didn't see last message, i fixed it :)
[09:30] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper:  there is a .deb package for the app. have you tried that? installing the ubuntu deb?
[09:31] <THX-1138> TriGz - Ya-y!
[09:31] <TriGz> :)
[09:31] <Sktfeelsdapper> isn't it just for nicotine though?
[09:31] <TriGz> Now to make it look slightly purdyer
[09:31] <Sktfeelsdapper> i couldn't find a nicotine+ one.
[09:31] <Sktfeelsdapper> hey silent dude.
[09:31] <aeroSoul> Sktfeelsdapper: nicotine+ uses the same config dir
[09:32] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: oh. see, not knowing jack about the app makes me not get that detail. yeah, just nicotine.
[09:32] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just don't understand what it is I'm doing here.
[09:32] <THX-1138> TriGz - gnome-look.org   DigitalDark-2-Blue-1.2
[09:32] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: sometimes life is like that =)
[09:33] <aeroSoul> ah you were talking about packages sry =)
[09:33] <TriGz> Nice? :P
[09:33] <THX-1138> TriGz and don't forget xcompmgr with transset.
[09:33] <TriGz> Care to explain some? :P
[09:33] <Focuz_> goodmorning
[09:34] <THX-1138> Digital Dark is a super theme. xcompmgr adds drop shadows.
[09:34] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: lemme give it a shot. installing nicotine+
[09:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> hmm k.
[09:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> if you want to, i'm really getting tired of this. haha
[09:35] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: is this it? http://thegraveyard.org/daelstorm/nicotine-patch.php
[09:35] <aeroSoul> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196835 <- how to install nicotine+
[09:35] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: check out aeroSoul. oh yeah.
[09:36] <aeroSoul> i installed it like this and it worked
[09:36] <TriGz> THX-1138, It wont find Digital dark ;p
[09:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> Sweet hold on one second.
[09:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> I think I figured something out.
[09:38] <Armstrong80> Would anyone mind sending me a gmail invitation if you use the service?
[09:38] <THX-1138> TriGz - Thats too bad. ah well on to xcompmgr - it is an easy install and a simple one line bash command to configure and start it.
[09:39] <TriGz> I found it :D
[09:39] <aeroSoul> TriGz lol trigz.. you thanked me in the wrong network =) qnet
[09:39] <shone_zlo> dudes....where does ubuntu sore the names of all installed packages?
[09:39] <THX-1138> TriGz xcompmgr -cCfF -r 4 -l 0 -t 0 -D 5 &
[09:39] <TriGz> lol i know :P i was on laptop ^^
[09:40] <aeroSoul> shone_zlo: /var/lib/dpkg/info
[09:40] <TriGz> ill do that when i've updated :P
[09:40] <TriGz> THX-1138,  how do i install this theme? ;p
[09:40] <shone_zlo> tnx
[09:40] <TriGz> nvm
[09:40] <TriGz> damn thats some cool shizzle
[09:40] <iLLf8d> evening all
[09:40] <iLLf8d> how goes it
[09:40] <TriGz> Morning :)
[09:41] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: aeroSoul's link lays it out just fine. I just set it up in what... 4min.
[09:41] <TriGz> wooo! this theme owns <3
[09:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well I figured out an easier way to get tothe folder at least.
[09:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> Using ~/nicotine+-1.2.5.1/./nicotine
[09:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> on the command line
[09:41] <deyan> edgy's ulimit output is unlimited. Anyone can do me a favor that tell me "ulimit" output at dapper?
[09:41] <Rasta> how i can mount a ntfs partition that be avaliable to me as a user and not have to open all the applications with sudo?
[09:42] <THX-1138> TriGz - Open themes in the gui dekbar it will create a folder in your home directory called .themes you can unhide .files with ctrl+h   just drop it in there.
[09:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> The problem isn't that I can't install it, I can install it fine.
[09:42] <we2by> ow do I know if cpu freq scaling is working or not?
[09:42] <TriGz> Lol i already done it
[09:42] <TriGz> It's the shizzle man :P
[09:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> It's just I don't want to have to command line it every time I want to use it.
[09:42] <aeroSoul> TriGz: you might still want to read a how-to about installing nvidia drivers... because the vesa driver probably uses more cpu for displaying gfx... and doesnt support opengl/3d
[09:42] <TriGz> Yea i noticed :P
[09:42] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: my desktop link worked fine as well.
[09:42] <TriGz> I'm going to read up on it in a second :)
[09:42] <TriGz> Just updating everything ect.
[09:43] <THX-1138> TriGz - go back to the gui  in the deskbar and themes then select Digital Dark.
[09:43] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: robertl@pele:~/Desktop$ ln -s ~/nicotine+-1.2.4.1/nicotine
[09:43] <TriGz> THX-1138, I've already done it!! :P
[09:43] <we2by> this is strange. I only have xchat and firefox and music playing with rhytmbox. and both cores are at 1ghz
[09:43] <TriGz> THX-1138,  It's the shizzle :D thanks man :P
[09:43] <Rasta> so mounted ntfs disks cant be accesed by the user i created when intalled ubuntu
[09:44] <we2by> how can I lower the freq a litle bit more?
[09:44] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: so sitting in the Desktop directory   ln-s  ~/nicotine+-1.2.4.1/nicotine
[09:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> now i have to gksudo to even open it
[09:44] <TriGz> Does anyone know of a MSN Client for linux with Webcam support? ^^
[09:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> arg!
[09:44] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: really? did you change permissions on it?
[09:44] <THX-1138> TriGz - Linux is flexible. Try doing something that cool in the Redmond OS withoutinstalling spyware/adware (ala "windowblinds)
[09:44] <we2by> TriGz, not msn. but skype does have webcam support
[09:45] <TriGz> eww skype :P
[09:45] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't think I did.
[09:45] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: ok. hope is not lost man.
[09:45] <we2by> on OSX I can go for more than 3 hours playing music with firefox open. but on LInux, I can only get max 2 hours with this batery
[09:45] <we2by> :(
[09:46] <TriGz> aeroSoul, Any tips on where to look for nv support?
[09:46] <aeroSoul> Rasta: you have to edit /etc/fstab
[09:46] <we2by> lowering the cpu both cores freq would help, right>
[09:46] <aeroSoul> TriGz: i'd google "ubuntu nvidia drivers" and take the first link with ubuntu in its domain name... ubuntuforums or something
[09:46] <TriGz> :) ok thanks aero
[09:47] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: try the Desktop link one more time. delete any others that may have cropped up and try it again.
[09:47] <THX-1138> !display
[09:47] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:47] <THX-1138> !nvidia
[09:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <Rasta> aeroSoul, you know some reference in how to do this? i see a lot this problem when searching google
[09:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> nope terminal pop's up, then disappears.
[09:47] <shone_zlo> so if i del a package's files in /var/lib/dpkg/info ubuntu will no longer see it as installed or what?
[09:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> where do you install your programs at, am i installing them in the wrong place?
[09:48] <aeroSoul> Rasta: did you edit the fstab to add your ntfs disk?
[09:48] <eylisian> well, it depends.
[09:48] <THX-1138> !ntfs
[09:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:48] <aeroSoul> shone_zlo: yes
[09:48] <eylisian> I just installed it in ~/nicotine
[09:48] <eylisian> unpacked from downloads per the howto
[09:48] <Rasta> aeroSoul, no, i mounted it with: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows
[09:49] <eylisian> sometimes I install to /usr/local
[09:49] <aeroSoul> try to add -o user to the command line, Raskall
[09:49] <aeroSoul> Rasta i mean
[09:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> How did it make it's own file like that?
[09:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> is that in home/your name?
[09:49] <THX-1138> Rasta - did you use the -o   options flag to set read/write?   ro  is likely what you want.
[09:49] <eylisian> you mean unpack?
[09:49] <aeroSoul> Rasta: no, wrong.. forget it
[09:50] <Sktfeelsdapper> yah how did it unpack into it's own file. I don't understand what's going on!
[09:50] <aeroSoul> Rasta: but you can try to mount it without sudo
[09:50] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is there something I'm missing from like the very beginning?
[09:50] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: it was a bziped archive. the howto shows the slick tar foo way to unpack a bz2 file.
[09:50] <aeroSoul> if that doesnt work you have to edit your fstab...
[09:51] <Rasta> i cant mount it w/o sudo
[09:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> where do you download the package to in the first place?
[09:51] <THX-1138> Rasta - see the link on !ntfs - There is a very nice script there chmod +x then one click.
[09:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> the tar package that is.
[09:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> wait nevermind.
[09:51] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: I have a directory I call the oh so original name of downloads
[09:51] <Rasta> !ntfs
[09:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:51] <aeroSoul> Rasta: /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs user,noauto 0 0
[09:51] <aeroSoul> add this line to your /etc/fstab
[09:52] <eylisian> then if you are in your home dir and unpack it while it's in downloads it builds it's directory in your cwd.
[09:52] <Sktfeelsdapper> cwd?
[09:52] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: make sense?
[09:52] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: current working directory
[09:52] <Rasta> aeroSoul, ok, a sec
[09:52] <THX-1138> aeroSoul - Yep, the best way to learn about how things work.
[09:52] <aeroSoul> Rasta: or remove the ,noauto if you want it to be mounted during boot
[09:52] <Sktfeelsdapper> so if i just download it into home
[09:52] <aeroSoul> but then it would be mounted as root again i think...
[09:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> it will make it's own directory
[09:53] <eylisian> if you were in home.
[09:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> right now i'm in home and the only thing i see is "skt"
[09:53] <eylisian> I doubt though without sudo you aint unpacking jack in home.
[09:53] <THX-1138> Rasta - Take a look at the script. It is can teach a lot about the command line and scripting.
[09:53] <eylisian> you should cd into skt
[09:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> is skt=home?
[09:53] <eylisian> no.
[09:54] <eylisian> it is your home.
[09:54] <TriGz> How do i restart X? lol
[09:54] <Sktfeelsdapper> see it makes a folder under "skt"
[09:54] <wenko> startx
[09:54] <Rookie-> ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:54] <eylisian> the /home is where all user dirs live.
[09:54] <Netslayer> trying to update to edgy but the update-manager is failing, logs show " Can't mark 'ubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[09:54] <Sktfeelsdapper> nicotine+-1.2.5.1
[09:54] <aeroSoul> Rasta: after that type "sudo unmount /mnt/windows" and then "mount /mnt/windows"
[09:54] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: it should.
[09:55] <eylisian> right.
[09:55] <aeroSoul> umount not unmount
[09:55] <Sktfeelsdapper> so in /home/skt it SHOULD make a directory named nicotine+-1.2.5.1
[09:55] <THX-1138> TriGz - if you have ati first sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  (ati cards hate jolts then ALT+backspace  FINALLY from the command line "startx"
[09:55] <wenko> [00:54:40]  *** TriGz quit
[09:55] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: correct
[09:55] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm so effin confused.
[09:55] <eylisian> if you unpack it while in /home/skt
[09:56] <Netslayer> i dont get why it says it's a broken package, synaptic doesn't show that as broken
[09:56] <eylisian> if you unpack it while in /home/skt/downloads it will be in downloads.
[09:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> maybe i'm not suppose to be able to get a desktop button and should just run it from the command line.
[09:56] <aeroSoul> Sktfeelsdapper: you can now cd nicotine+-1.2.5.1 and run it with ./nicotine
[09:56] <Rasta> THX-1130, ok, ill take a look man
[09:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> cd?
[09:57] <aeroSoul> Sktfeelsdapper: you can get a desktop button if you configure it yourself...
[09:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> how do i configure it? i tried the way on that link and it didn't work!
[09:57] <THX-1138> cd = change directories
[09:57] <aeroSoul> add to panel -> custom command i think
[09:57] <Rasta> aeroSoul, doesnt seems to work, i cant see why the super user has become so restrictive on ubuntu
[09:57] <eylisian> Sktfeelsdapper: have a good night man. I'm off to bed.
[09:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> night eylisian
[09:57] <aeroSoul> Rasta: whats the error msg?
[09:57] <Rasta> i feel that ive lost a lot of flexibility
[09:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> my head r asplode.
[09:58] <Rasta> aeroSoul, say that i dont have enough permissions to do that
[09:58] <aeroSoul> to unmount?
[09:59] <Rasta> to mount
[09:59] <we2by> looks like cpuscaling is not working here
[09:59] <we2by> :(
[09:59] <we2by> I can set the cpufreq myself
[10:00] <we2by> but it does set it automatically when it is needed
[10:00] <aeroSoul> Rasta: maybe it helps if you change the "user,noauto" to "user=<yourusername>,noauto"
[10:00] <Rasta> aeroSoul, ill try this and ill come back later to tell you how it goes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:01] <hockyhair> is there a app for linux that will backup/decrypt dvd to iso format (like dvddecrypter for windows)
[10:01] <HellDragon> night
[10:01] <Rasta> aeroSoul sorry if i sound like a bad guy but i have years away from linux and some things arent familiar to me yet :(
[10:02] <TriGz> wtf
[10:02] <Rasta> but i rally apreciate your help
[10:02] <TriGz> since when was .deb not supported? :\
[10:02] <THX-1138> hockyhair - google the penguin liberation front  or mplayer even vlc for info
[10:02] <THX-1138> !dvd
[10:02] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:02] <Rasta> 3 years ago, and i used to use redhat
[10:02] <MinisterPolite> time for a baryl screen shot. everyone say =)
[10:03] <TriGz> THX-1138, Since when was debian packages not supported in ubuntu? :|
[10:03] <hockyhair> THX-1138: i can make a perfect copy to iso with mplayer?
[10:03] <marshall> any body know any good p2p apps for gnome?
[10:03] <marshall> i dont want to use frostwire or any other java based foolishness
[10:03] <CyberLeaf> try amule
[10:04] <marshall> cyberfall, ah yes
[10:04] <marshall> is mldonkey any good now?
[10:04] <CyberLeaf> i think they are the same
[10:04] <marshall> i remember having lots of problems with mlnet in the past
[10:04] <THX-1138> hockyhair - Did you need to decrypt it first?
[10:04] <aLPHa_LeaK>  'lo
[10:04] <marshall> what about the giFT project? gift-ui or gift-toxic
[10:05] <hockyhair> THX-1138: most dvd's need to be decrypted i believe
[10:05] <THX-1138> TriGz - I don't understand. What error are you seeing?
[10:05] <TriGz> Just downloaded a .deb...
[10:05] <TriGz> i get this.
[10:05] <THX-1138> hockyhair - so you want to eventually shrink it's size?
[10:05] <aeroSoul> mldonkey and amule aren't the same... and mldonkey had it's good days long time ago... imo
[10:05] <TriGz> Archive type not supported.
[10:05] <hockyhair> i can run dvddecrypter with wine, that does exactly what i need, decrypt/backup to iso.. i was just wondering if there was something native that does the same thing and might be faster
[10:05] <enyc> TriGz: when doing what with it?
[10:06] <enyc> TriGz: .deb package file......
[10:06] <hockyhair> no i dont need to shrink it's size
[10:06] <TriGz> trying to open it ;o
[10:06] <CyberLeaf> Yeah I thought he said emule, sorry
[10:06] <enyc> TriGz: what ho you mean 'open' it -- with what program // how ?
[10:06] <THX-1138> TriGz - incorrectly packaged possibly?
[10:06] <matahari> hi
[10:06] <hockyhair> matahari: hi
[10:06] <aeroSoul> i think he doubleclicked it =)
[10:07] <THX-1138> hockyhair - you only want to copy the disk? just the data without manipulating the files?
[10:07] <TriGz> i tried dpkg -i ;p
[10:07] <aeroSoul> hehe ok that's right
[10:07] <enyc> TriGz: right.... ok... well in that case the deb file is broken
[10:07] <TriGz> ahh
[10:07] <matti> Morning.
[10:07] <aeroSoul> download again
[10:07] <TriGz> i forgot you had to sudo
[10:07] <TriGz> :( lol
[10:07] <hockyhair> THX-1138: correct.. everything intact
[10:07] <hockyhair> as iso for easy burn later
[10:08] <shriphani> hockyhair, you want to make an iso ?
[10:08] <THX-1138> hockyhair - If i understand correctly then any disk copy application should do. how about gnomebaker or k3b - even dd or ddrescue (both fro the command line.)
[10:08] <Woosta> How do I kick ubuntu in the guts enough that it notices I just put the SD card back in?
[10:09] <CyberLeaf> anyone knows how to stop a $ locate *.jpg & ?
[10:09] <shriphani> hockyhair, cat /media/cdrom > filename.iso
[10:09] <Woosta> CyberLeaf: sure .. when it started you should have seen the pid
[10:09] <hockyhair> ok i'll try those out, ty
[10:09] <CyberLeaf> the pid?
[10:09] <Woosta> [1]  1234  <-- like that
[10:10] <Woosta> the pid (process ID) is the 1234 bit
[10:10] <Woosta> sudo kill 1234  <-- that will kill the process
[10:10] <CyberLeaf> sorry i don't see it it just goes to fast
[10:10] <Woosta> open a new shell then and type "ps ax | grep locate"
[10:10] <shriphani> CyberLeaf, ps -aux
[10:10] <CyberLeaf> oh yes i get it, thanks man
[10:10] <Woosta> the first number on the resulting line is the pid
[10:11] <shriphani> that would show ya everything
[10:11] <Woosta> kill as above
[10:11] <ella_> hello
[10:11] <CyberLeaf> Yep i know it i just don't know it's called pid lol
[10:11] <CyberLeaf> thanks Woosta and shriphani
[10:11] <ella_> i have a problem watching DVD's
[10:11] <Rasta> i come with another sudo problem when using it i get "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 30 03:33:02 2006" that time its like an hour and a half inthe future ffrom my current time, before i didnt have this problem, someone knows what can be happening?
[10:11] <Woosta> Anyone know anything about my question above?
[10:11] <ChickenTalons> wow 1.15MB/s azureus on the amd64 desktop iso - upgraded internet comes in handy
[10:12] <orbin> ella_: the problem being...
[10:12] <ella_> i executed /usr/share/libdvdread3/install.sh
[10:12] <shriphani> Woosta, is that a lappy ?
[10:12] <ella_> and it worked onetime
[10:12] <Woosta> shriphani: yup
[10:12] <shriphani> i have the same probs
[10:12] <Woosta> (well .. if 21" is a laptop .. Dell XPS M2010 :-))
[10:12] <ella_> now i get an error about the dvd is encrypted :(
[10:13] <Woosta> shriphani: bugger :)
[10:13] <Woosta> Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't
[10:13] <THX-1138> A command for the geeky (safe)  - lshw   lists hardware installed and their specifications
[10:13] <Woosta> if it were a standard card reader, I'd just unplug/plug it and it would be seed by hald
[10:14] <THX-1138> If you just typed that you will - like me be tied to google for a week sorting it out.
[10:14] <Woosta> Is THX-1138 a bot spouting random tips or did I just miss the context?
[10:14] <THX-1138> Too much info.
[10:14] <ella_> i cant watch DVDs anymore even the same as worked before
[10:14] <Woosta> guess I missed the context :)
[10:14] <ella_> i did nothing
[10:14] <THX-1138> Woosta - Bot monkey - sorry.
[10:14] <Woosta> lol
[10:14] <shriphani> Woosta, i got an external card reader
[10:15] <Woosta> yeah, I got one too .. but that's a PITA to take everywhere when there's already a perfectly good one inbuilt
[10:15] <shriphani> mine's the size of an ipod shuffle
[10:15] <Woosta> mines smaller .. but it's still a pain
[10:15] <shriphani> lol
[10:16] <hoelk> stupid question: does it make sense to have 2 swap partitions on 2 different hard drives?
[10:16] <Rasta> i found a solution to that problem: http://my.opera.com/render/blog/show.dml/337121
[10:16] <Woosta> hoelk: no
[10:16] <hoelk> ok thanks
[10:16] <shriphani> hoelk, how do you use it ?
[10:16] <Woosta> well .. rarely :)
[10:16] <Woosta> Like .. if you're asking then probably not :)
[10:16] <hoelk> i dont, i just have a left over swp partition from an earlier install on another hard drive
[10:16] <hoelk> and i have no idea how to get rid of it
[10:16] <hoelk> without loosing data
[10:16] <ella_> hmm, what can i do, DVD playback does not work all the time just now and then ??
[10:17] <shriphani> hoelk, lose data ?
[10:17] <Woosta> ella_: same DVDs or is it that some work and others don'r?
[10:17] <ella_> yes same dvd
[10:17] <Woosta> ella_: that's just weird then :)
[10:17] <hoelk> well, there is also another partition with data on that hard drive with the swp partition i want to get rid of
[10:17] <ella_> a few minutes ago it didnt work
[10:17] <Woosta> unless you're doing software updates
[10:17] <hoelk> and its fairly stuffed
[10:17] <Woosta> Do you get an error?
[10:17] <ella_> i was just typing here, now it works
[10:18] <ella_> and in a few minutes it wont work
[10:18] <Woosta> Cool .. I fixed it for you :-D
[10:18] <rixth> Linux king 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 8 19:55:17 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:18] <shriphani> hoelk, just delete the swap partition
[10:18] <Woosta> (seriously .. my resume says "Computers like me. It is said that when I stand close to a computer that is playing up, it will fix itself" .. it's gotten me two jobs so far :))
[10:18] <ella_> the error says: DVD encrypted ... libdvdcss not installed...
[10:19] <Woosta> And is libdvdcss installed?
[10:19] <hoelk> is it possible to reassign the free space to another partition without lossing data on that one?
[10:19] <ella_> but it is istalled
[10:19] <TriGz> pew pew pew, lazer guns ;p
[10:19] <shriphani> hoelk, i think you just delete it
[10:19] <ella_> yes libdvd is installed
[10:19] <ella_> and i also executed /usr/share/libdvdread3/install.sh
[10:20] <ella_> and sometimes it works , sometimes not
[10:20] <shriphani> TriGz, wont the deleted partition go merge with the partition before it
[10:20] <Woosta> ella_: then it's not somewhere that your media player can find it at a guess .. maybe it's flaky .. try reinstalling it? (to propose a windows solutoin!)
[10:20] <TriGz> shriphani, what? ;o
[10:20] <ella_> i just upgraded to edgy the problem is the same
[10:20] <Woosta> shriphani/hoelk .. you can merge it with the previous partition if you're damned careful .. but I wouldn't risk it
[10:21] <shriphani> yeh
[10:21] <Woosta> Much better to make it a new partition
[10:21] <shriphani> like format it ext3 ?
[10:21] <shriphani> or ext2 or fat32
[10:21] <ella_> maybe its because its an old lappy, 800mhz ?
[10:21] <Woosta> depends what you want to use it for :)
[10:21] <ella_> i didnt face the prob on anyother machine
[10:21] <Woosta> fat32 if you want windows to be able to read it too, ext3 if you're only using linux
[10:21] <howieson26> hallo habe mal eine frage kann mir jemand helfen bekomme meine usb festplatte nicht formatiert?
 mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdaxy?
[10:22] <emretemp01> hi there, is there a gnome shortcut key for "launching programs" ?  I used to press ALT+F2 to run programs while I was using KDE.
[10:23] <Woosta> emretemp01: iirc gnome has a Run.. command .. and a way to assign keyboard shortcuts to commands ..
[10:24] <howieson26> ella er tut mal sehen
[10:25] <Juhaz> emretemp01, alt+f2
[10:25] <ella_> howieson26: mkfs.ext3 -j /dev/sdaxy is evenbetter
[10:25] <emretemp01> @juhaz  alt+f2 is not working on Gnome, Its only for kde.
[10:25] <Juhaz> bollocks
[10:26] <howieson26> er tut jetzt schon soll ich das nochmal machen die platte ist ganz neu
[10:27] <howieson26> er hat sie mir am anfang auch angezeigt aber dann hab ich sie ber qtparted formatiert als fat32 und das hat er angeblich auch gemacht aber angezeigt hat er immer unknown und sie auch nicht mehr gemountet?
[10:27] <orbin> !de
[10:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:28] <Rasta> excellent this script worked perfectly, now i have my ntfs partitions mounted by default
[10:28] <grothesk> Hi!
[10:28] <Rasta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:28] <ella_> :((  i always thought the "sometimes work sometime not" is the kind of windoze problem
[10:29] <grothesk> Where is the right place to discuss about edgy?
[10:29] <dfgas__> lol, shutting a virtual machine down after it has been up 7 weeks
[10:29] <Robbster> hi all, I've got a problem with my dual-boot system. Grub doesn't want to boot the windows partition. I've added an hdd and that is where the problems started.
[10:30] <barata> OOT:anybody from Belgium? or anybody knows about Belgium cellphone system?
[10:30] <drumline_> Robbster: yep...   when you boot linux, which drive does your windows drive show up as?
[10:30] <orbin> grothesk: #ubuntu+1
[10:30] <Robbster> I've tried manually setting up the grub boot commands ('e'diting the boot-time paramters), but I think things are badly toasted?
[10:30] <grothesk> thx
[10:30] <drumline_> Robbster: with 'dmesg'
[10:30] <Robbster> drumline_: using gParted
[10:31] <Robbster> ahh. dmesg
[10:31] <drumline_> Robbster: no... gparted is a partion editor... not a grub config program... gparted has nothing to do with boot order.
[10:31] <drumline_> or boot config
[10:31] <Rookie-> !skype
[10:31] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:32] <Robbster> drumline_: agreed, but it is a great tool to see wth is going on :)
[10:32] <drumline_> Robbster: it'll tell you what's going on with one disk, agreed.  :)
[10:32] <burk> hello
[10:32] <kkaroll> !opera
[10:32] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[10:32] <Robbster> drumline_: this is where things get a little complicated
[10:33] <Rasta> someone here uses xubuntu?
[10:33] <howieson26_> hallo bin wieder da er ist mir voll abgeschmiert kannst du mir nochmal  denn befehl sagen ella
[10:33] <ella_> mkfs.ext3 -j /dev/sda?
[10:33] <shriphani> Rasta, #xubuntu
[10:33] <Rasta> ok
[10:33] <drumline_> Robbster: sure...
[10:33] <ella_> ? = part-number
[10:33] <burk> im having trouble with ubuntu, it has started to reset my dns config every time i restart, and it doesnt seem like its able get new ones without me typing them in...
[10:33] <howieson26_> danke er tut mal sehen
[10:34] <orbin> !de > howieson26
[10:34] <howieson26_> !de
[10:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:34] <Robbster> I've got 4 disks,
[10:34] <Robbster> /dev/sda = 160 Gb bootable. (mbr is here)
[10:34] <Robbster> /dev/sdb = 120 Gb with Ubuntu installed on it
[10:34] <Robbster> /dev/sdc = 120 with WinXP
[10:34] <Robbster> /dev/hda = 120 storage (2 fat partitions)  <-- added
[10:34] <shriphani> burk, could you please post the output of cat /etc/resolv.com
[10:34] <shriphani> resolv.conf ^
[10:34] <howieson26_> ok thanks that was the standard channel i have installed xchat :)
[10:34] <Rookie-> cat /etc/resolv.conf will do
[10:35] <TriGz> pew pew pew, lazer guns.
[10:35] <shriphani> dratted keyboard of mine
[10:35] <TriGz> I'm off out guys, cya later <3
[10:35] <shriphani> its missing 3 keys
[10:35] <ella_> i want DVD playback work ALL the time ! :((
[10:35] <shriphani> burk ?
[10:35] <ubuntu> hi... what are the best ways (other than fsck) for detecting a bad hard drive?
[10:36] <burk> shriphani, nameserver 217.13.4.21        nameserver 217.13.7.136
[10:36] <shriphani> thats fine
[10:36] <burk> but thats because i have typed them into network-admin, and i have to do it every single time
[10:36] <shriphani> hmmm
[10:36] <drumline_> Robbster: google: windows chainloader...    check out the links from linuxquestions.org on the search page.
[10:37] <Robbster> roger
[10:37] <Rookie-> dhcp client should renew the resolv
[10:37] <shriphani> yeh
[10:37] <shriphani> maybe you didnt enter the static ip
[10:37] <ubuntu> hi... what are the best ways (other than fsck) for detecting a bad hard drive?
[10:37] <kraut> moin
[10:37] <Rookie-> suggesting you look on your dhcp client ...
[10:38] <burk> shriphani, i did, and even if i didnt, its supposed to get the dns from the router
[10:39] <Rookie-> and the router has the corect dns info ?
[10:40] <Rasta> !mp3
[10:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:40] <Robbster> drumline_: should I be mapping drives?
[10:40] <shriphani> !edgy
[10:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:41] <shriphani> !schedule
[10:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:41] <shriphani> what are edgy's advantages ?
[10:41] <drumline_> Robbster: mapping drives?  what do you m.ean by that?
[10:42] <Robbster> well, Windows doesn't understand other OS's and, according to the post can be confused by too many drives.
[10:42] <Rookie-> seems to be a dev dist of ubuntu
[10:42] <Robbster> drumline_: so, as I understand it, you map the dirve order at boot time to help Windows out. but this doesn't seemt obe what you were pointing out in the thread you pointed me to.
[10:42] <orbin> shriphani: newer software IIRC
[10:42] <Robbster> drumline_: did I miss something important?
[10:44] <drumline_> Robbster: I don't think the mapping stuff is what you need..   It looks like the boot order was changed because you added another drive.  So, I'd suggest changing the the entry for windows to reflect the change in hard drive detection for your windows drive.   What is likely is that your windows drive is now 3rd on the list instead of 2nd.  In which case, you'd need to change the entry in the grub config from hd1 to hd2
[10:44] <drumline_> Robbster: ...and make sure the chainloader stuff is in there...
[10:47] <drumline_> Robbster: linux is still booting correct?
[10:49] <scheuri> hi all
[10:49] <Robbster>  drumline_: corrent
[10:50] <Robbster>  drumline_: I have tried changing the 'root (hd2,0)' entried in the grub boot
[10:50] <Robbster> but I can't seem to locate the winXP partition.
[10:51] <Robbster> drumline_:  does the device.map file get read automatically on boot?
[10:51] <scheuri> does anyone know of an application to administrate mobile phones (particularly Sony Ericsson K750i)...it would just need to save contacts and play them back and let me write them on the computer instead of mobile...anyone an idea?
[10:54] <drumline_> Robbster: did you do anything with a partition editor?
[10:55] <Robbster> drumline_: just set up partitions on hda (the 4th disk I added). Formatted them with fat32
[10:55] <Robbster> drumline_: That should not be significant ?
[10:56] <Robbster> drumline_: I've read the thread carefully and I think that the mapping is what I need. From what I can determine, it's the new IDE drive that is throwing things.
[10:57] <hkais> hello
[10:57] <Robbster> hi hkais
[10:57] <drumline_> Robbster: ok.. .give it a shot.  :)
[10:58] <hkais> i am frustrating with my prism pcmcia card under ubuntu and networkmanager....
[10:58] <Robbster> drumline_: :) Yeah, I guess it can't hurt.
[10:58] <hkais> hello Robbster
[10:58] <Sarra_> I went to take a showre, and when I returned, there were 252 Firefox windows open, all blank
[10:58] <rixth> "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." << what does that indicate I am missing?
[10:58] <Sarra_> This is on my laptop
[10:58] <Sarra_> Does ANYONE know why this keeps happening?
[10:59] <Robbster> just need to make sure that I'm mapping the correct drive letters. do you know it the device.map is loaded by grub when booting?
[10:59] <hkais> my prism card is working under kismet and any other sniffing software, but not as a nic for the net...
[10:59] <Robbster> drumline_: brb. Lets try some mapping! Yay!
[11:01] <hkais> no hints?
[11:01] <stadtfilter> any hint where to look to make traffic shaping on the client side?
[11:03] <john> hi
[11:03] <john> need help setting up wine- anyone done it before?
[11:03] <hkais> john: what is the problem
[11:03] <john> can we step through it
[11:04] <john> I have version 6.06.1 - will 6.1 beta work?
[11:04] <drumline_> john: if you don't mind the possibility of a bug negatively affecting you.
[11:05] <john> Is it wort th it to upgrade?
[11:05] <mewt> Hi, i just removed packages, xgl, compiz, compiz-core and compiz-gnome. Now after a restart my x server doesnt wanna boot
[11:05] <hkais> john: sure, but could you give me a brief overview what the problem is?
[11:05] <hkais> noone here with an prism card?
[11:06] <john> I added the two links to the respositary, then let them download
[11:07] <john> then I went to console to install them and then it said there was a package missing!
[11:07] <AbortD> this  chan never dies huh no matter what time?
[11:07] <mewt> exit
[11:07] <hkais> john: if you could give me an overview, maybe i can help you... An upgrade is always possible, but if it solves your problems?
[11:07] <AbortD> mewt wants to be leet
[11:08] <woekele> heya, hows the environment called that is used before X is loaded?
[11:08] <hkais> john: i am using the wine-repository directly, so i have always very current versions...
[11:08] <yoshiznit123> woekele, the command line?
[11:09] <AbortD> i invented wine
[11:09] <john> I dont know what to do once I have added them to the Repository
[11:09] <woekele> yoshiznit123, nah, not commandline, but the loadingscreen and stuff
[11:09] <DrSpin> Anyone been able to get ubuntu to work properly with a G5 ipod?? I cn sync music but how do I get videos to synch and play?
[11:10] <lastnode> !ipod
[11:10] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[11:10] <AbortD> g5 ipod?!
[11:10] <lastnode> AbortD, 5th generation
[11:10] <DrSpin> gen 5
[11:10] <DrSpin> lastnode: and that only deals with audio
[11:10] <AbortD> run linux on a ipod?!
[11:10] <AbortD> ohh
[11:10] <DrSpin> yes but not the solution I'm looking for...
[11:10] <yoshiznit123> woekele, usplash? (upstart?) :-)
[11:10] <scheuri> AbortD: is kinda leet today...
[11:11] <AbortD> jesus christ all mighty
[11:11] <john> I am able to add them to the repository, and refresh and download them, but how to I install it to use it?
[11:11] <Robbster> drumline_: hey. Mapping was exactly what I needed. Thanks for the help.
[11:11] <woekele> yoshiznit123, do you know how to change the mode its running in? I keep getting "out of range" on my monitor untill X loads, then it works fine.
[11:11] <lastnode> AbortD, what's wrong?
[11:11] <AbortD> lastnode, scheuri is whats wrong
[11:12] <shriphani> AbortD, you can run linux on an ipod
[11:12] <scheuri> uh?
[11:12] <buzzy> hello   i have installed on ubuntu the nVidia drivers (glx legacy) but when i reboot, X server doesn't start!! i have only the console...if i do "startx" it says me that there are some errors (now i dont remember which ones)..how can i solve this problem?
[11:12] <scheuri> why is that?
[11:12] <DrSpin> shriphani: yes
[11:12] <AbortD> you are satan
[11:12] <lastnode> buzzy, changed your xorg ?
[11:12] <AbortD> DIE SINNER
[11:12] <scheuri> AbortD: me? the devil? all right...;)...
[11:12] <scheuri> I will soon enough..
[11:12] <john> hkais - can you help me set up wine?
[11:13] <buzzy> lastnode dont know
[11:13] <AbortD> lol
[11:13] <gershon_> help! lastest update broke nautilus!
[11:13] <john> has anyone here set up wine on ubuntu
[11:13] <lastnode> AbortD, that kind of convo is for -offtopic
[11:13] <john> ?
[11:13] <AbortD> gershon_, ubuntu  sucks!
[11:13] <lastnode> john, sudo apt-get install wine
[11:13] <lastnode> !wine
[11:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:13] <DrSpin> john: yes but I could never get it to behave quite right...
[11:13] <shriphani> ipodlinux but its main use is playing idoom
[11:13] <lastnode> AbortD, if you dont stop trolling im going to call an op
[11:13] <yoshiznit123> woekele, you can change it temporarily from when you boot, press 'e' when ubuntu is selected, find the line that starts with 'kernel', press 'e' again and edit the end (vga=792,791,etc.), then 'b' to boot (http://shrimpworks.za.net/2005/01/31/change-your-console-resolution-and-colour-depth/)
[11:13] <rixth> "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." << what does that indicate I am missing? "linux-source-2.6.15 is already the newest version."
[11:13] <davin^afk> Hi guys, im trying to install cedega with GDebi, but it says: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs" what can I do?
[11:14] <AbortD> lastnode, call a op a what?
[11:14] <frogzoo> davin: install wine instead
[11:14] <woekele> tnx yoshiznit123
[11:14] <davin> frogzoo: but I want to play games =o
[11:14] <john> Which version of linux should I use to play CSS - and to do so I need wine?
[11:14] <frogzoo> davin: wine works
[11:14] <frogzoo> !appdb
[11:14] <ubotu> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:15] <yoshiznit123> np
[11:15] <davin> frogzoo: Even Guild Wars / HL2 / Anarchy Online?
[11:15] <davin> frogzoo: didnt knew wine could run games..
[11:15] <gershon_> 0x00002ad1ba2eeeb5 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 ????????
[11:15] <DrSpin> shame appdb is full of incredibly useless information for old versions
[11:15] <frogzoo> !appdb > davin
[11:16] <lastnode> DrSpin, you can be the first to document the 5g ipod! give it a go and see! :-)
[11:16] <lastnode> DrSpin, the gtkpod/amark/rhythmbox sites might have howtos
[11:16] <frogzoo> DrSpin: if appdb is out of date, why not update it ?
[11:17] <davin> frogzoo: so, wine can run most/all of the games in the cedega db out-of-the-box?
[11:17] <frogzoo> davin: check appdb - pretty much wine is as good as cedega
[11:17] <shriphani> back
[11:18] <shriphani> thats what happens when you borrow internet
[11:18] <lastnode> davin, ive run warcraft III fine
[11:18] <DrSpin> lastnode: I followed the few that I could find... compiled the latest GTKPOD and all --- still doesn't work right... will let me upload videos but won't allow them to playback as they're added to the db on the ipod as audio
[11:18] <davin> lastnode: hm okay im dying to run AO and CS
[11:18] <DrSpin> the ipod works fine in vmware on iTunes :)
[11:18] <davin> gonna grab wine now hang on
[11:18] <shriphani> DrSpin, i had same vid issues
[11:18] <AbortD> gettinn drunk davin?
[11:19] <shriphani> but what is the big use of having vids on something i listen to while going for walks ?
[11:19] <JDStone> anyone ever used approxy?
[11:19] <DrSpin> frogzoo: because I don't have the time AND because the info is there... it's just really hard to sort through the OLD information
[11:19] <davin> AbortD: XD nice one
[11:19] <lastnode> AbortD, last warning before i call an op. this is totally out of bounds for this channel.
[11:19] <AbortD> hey im drunk you know
[11:19] <PihI> Hi. What good http proxy is there for Ubuntu? Something as easy-to-use as HideIP for Windows.. Anybody knows an app like that?
[11:19] <AbortD> calm down!
[11:20] <AbortD> omg!
[11:20] <lastnode> AbortD, please take david and have your convo in -offtopic. this is a support channel.
[11:20] <AbortD> you'rre like the irc FBI
[11:20] <lastnode> !offtopic
[11:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:20] <frogzoo> DrSpin: you can't really complain about the level of help other people provide for free if you won't contribute yourself
[11:20] <skar> hi all, how do i install dapper from the 6.06-1 live cd on  a raid1 boot, root partition?
[11:20] <AbortD> EVERYONE
[11:20] <DrSpin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoEncoding
[11:20] <lastnode> skar, you might need the alternative cd, im not sure. let's see what the channel has to say.
[11:20] <AbortD> IF YOU DO NOT SAY UBUNTU IN A SENTENCE YOU ARE  BANNED!
[11:20] <lastnode> !ops
[11:20] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:20] <skar> it detects and formats the s/w raid1 boot and root device but during the next stage, it selects individual partitions only
[11:21] <skar> lastnode: thanks, lets see
[11:21] <lastnode> gnomefreak, thank you
[11:21] <shriphani> DrSpin, you could use rockbox which is ideal for a linux environment
[11:21] <gnomefreak> lastnode: ?
[11:21] <lastnode> gnomefreak, AbortD has refused to listen to reason (see above)
[11:21] <lastnode> thank you
[11:21] <lastnode> !raid
[11:21] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:22] <lastnode> skar, check that out
[11:22] <HeavyThinker> guys, best way to share files between 2 ubuntu pc's on a network? (without samba)
[11:22] <hkai1> hi again
[11:22] <shriphani> with rockbox you can avoid gtkpod etc and directly place files in the ipod the drag and drop way
[11:22] <lastnode> HeavyThinker, well you can always just dump the files in /var/www and do http ;-) that's what i do when im lazy
[11:22] <hkai1> i get crazy.... can someone help me with my prism card under ubuntu?
[11:23] <DrSpin> shriphani: does it convert video to the ipod
[11:23] <DrSpin> ?
[11:23] <hkai1> i am using hostap and the card wont run...
[11:23] <hkai1> hostap prism and networkmanager
[11:23] <shriphani> DrSpin, rockbox wont support video
[11:23] <hkai1> john: have you got a solution for your problem?
[11:23] <HeavyThinker> lastnode: mm good plan, what packages will i need to get a http server running?
[11:23] <shriphani> maybe ipodlinux will
[11:23] <lastnode> HeavyThinker, chances are you already do. check out http://localhost
[11:23] <DrSpin> shriphani: then it works the same as Amarok and the like...
[11:23] <lastnode> HeavyThinker, if not try /etc/init.d/Apache2 start
[11:24] <barata> hallo European ... how can I send sms using internet to a Belgium cellphone? do you know any site, please?
[11:24] <john> no
[11:24] <shriphani> DrSpin, rockbox doesnt go on the ps
[11:24] <shriphani> pc
[11:24] <MenZa> !offtopic > barata
[11:24] <shriphani> it is an os for the ipod
[11:24] <barata> OOT: hallo European ... how can I send sms using internet to a Belgium cellphone? do you know any site, please?
[11:24] <john> I cannot install it using the instructions from the wine website.
[11:24] <DrSpin> shriphani: oh -- not what I'm looking for
[11:24] <lastnode> barata, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:24] <MenZa> barata: Read the message you got from ubotu
[11:24] <MenZa> !offtopic
[11:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:24] <hkai1> john, can you post the /etc/apt/apt.sources file?
[11:24] <john> I need help installing the packages in console.
[11:25] <lastnode> john, ask
[11:25] <john> what do you men by post the file?
[11:25] <john> mean*
[11:25] <lastnode> post?
[11:25] <hkai1> copy the content of the file an post it on pastebin
[11:27] <john> /home/john/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[11:28] <rixth> "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." << what does that indicate I am missing? I have the kernel sources installed for my current kernel.
[11:28] <john> I have a screenshot with how far I have come in the package manager
[11:28] <hkai1> john: how long are you using already a computer?
[11:28] <john> ? How long have I used a computer -- a very long time!!!
[11:28] <shriphani> rixth, you got make installed ?
[11:29] <john> I will try install the files in console again and give you the error message I get.
[11:29] <shriphani> john, what do you intend to do ?
[11:29] <hkai1> john: okay could you please post the pic and the content of the file on any page?
[11:29] <rixth> shriphani, yeah, I've compiled stuff on this terminal before, but no device drivers.
[11:29] <hkai1> e.g. pastebin for the sources and the pic, i cannot remember...
[11:29] <hkai1> anyone here with a page for pasting a screenshot?
[11:29] <shriphani> hkai1, ubuntu pastebin has something for screenshots
[11:30] <shriphani> i think
[11:30] <hkai1> shriphani: how does it work?
[11:30] <XaXXon> how do you add a default library path in ubuntu?  there's no /etc/ld.so.conf
[11:31] <XaXXon> hrmm.. never mind.  that's not my problem
[11:31] <john> How do I know that I have successfuly installed wine?
[11:31] <shriphani> hkai1, nope no such facility
[11:31] <shriphani> john, which wine
[11:31] <hkai1> john: type wine in the console
[11:32] <shriphani> i mean type  'which wine' in the console
[11:32] <hkai1> john: e.g. wine --version
[11:32] <XaXXon> if it comes back saying "pinot noir", then it's installed
[11:32] <john> Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]    Run the specified program
[11:32] <john>        wine --help                   Display this help and exit
[11:32] <john>        wine --version                Output version information and exit
[11:32] <john> Wine 0.9.21
[11:33] <shriphani> john, you have wine installed
[11:33] <john> ok - so how do I get CSS to run?
[11:33] <Hoxzer> it is CS:s ^^
[11:33] <Hoxzer> check app db
[11:33] <john> what is app db
[11:33] <john> ?
[11:34] <shriphani> john, wine maintains an apps db
[11:34] <john> I have installed the steam.exe, but cannot find it after that!
[11:34] <john> How do I get to that apps db?
[11:34] <Hoxzer> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731
[11:34] <egsgaard> Heya
[11:34] <hkai1> john: ask google for css. Because you need more things than only wine!
[11:34] <shriphani> john, instlled stuff goes to .wine/blah blah
[11:34] <Hoxzer> john:
[11:35] <hkai1> john: e.g. openGL....
[11:36] <john> ok
[11:36] <cpk2> john: the wine website has a database of programs and how to get them to work
[11:36] <cpk2> john: there is also #winehq
[11:36] <john> can you find link for CS:S?
[11:36] <Alex41> Hello!
[11:36] <egsgaard> Heya, im a new user of ubuntu :P
[11:36] <john> How do I get to .wine?
[11:37] <cpk2> john: you could find a link to cs just as easily as i would
[11:37] <shriphani> john, cd .wine
[11:37] <Alex41> Could, please, someone help me with partitioning of my HDD?
[11:37] <Alex41> just 1 question
[11:37] <hkai1> john: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=835
[11:37] <hkai1> maybe this is a jumppoint...
[11:37] <john> I open filesystem, thene where do I go?
[11:37] <shriphani> hkai1, he said he installed it
[11:38] <shriphani> he needs to go to it
[11:38] <shriphani> john, open the console and type cd .wine
[11:38] <hkai1> shriphani: he installed CSS already?
[11:38] <Alex41> is it possible to partition HDD with help of some opensource utility?
 I have installed the steam.exe, but cannot find it after that!
[11:38] <shriphani> Alex41, gparted for linux :)
[11:38] <hkai1> Alex41: sure... fdisk
[11:39] <Alex41> no, I have got hdd with WinXP only, with single partition
[11:39] <john> it comes up with this:
[11:39] <john> john@john-laptop:~/.wine$
[11:39] <shriphani> john now ls
[11:39] <shriphani> type ls
[11:40] <john> it comes up with this:
[11:40] <john> dosdevices  drive_c  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg
[11:40] <shriphani> cd drive_C
[11:40] <shriphani> i mean cd drive_c
[11:40] <shriphani> there should be program files or something there
[11:41] <Alex41> and Partition Magic or similiar programs are so expensive. As I seem it's pretty easy operation of partioning
[11:41] <john> john@john-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c$
[11:41] <john> thats what comes up when I type it in
[11:41] <shriphani> then cd Program\ Files
[11:41] <john> ok
[11:41] <shriphani> then ls
[11:41] <john> then what?
[11:42] <Alex41> and, of course it is desirable to save data on C: with WinXP
[11:42] <john> then is says: common files     Valve
[11:42] <shriphani> what did you install john ?
[11:42] <john> I installed steam. Is there a graphic way of doing this?
[11:42] <shriphani> john, how did you install it ?
[11:43] <john> downloaded it, right clicked on it and selected "install with wine"
[11:43] <shriphani> hmmm
[11:43] <cafuego> Alex41: if you 1) defrag and 2) disk check; you cna use the Ubuntu partitioning tool on the liveCd to resize the XP partition and make some free space for Linux (10Gb is okay, but not too much smaller).
[11:43] <shriphani> is Valve something you installed ?
[11:43] <john> then it installed like on XP, and quit when done
[11:44] <shriphani> cd Valve
[11:44] <john> yes
[11:44] <shriphani> then ls
[11:44] <john> I got down there:
[11:44] <john> john@john-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files$ cd Valve
[11:44] <john> john@john-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Valve$ ls
[11:44] <john> Steam
[11:44] <john> john@john-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Valve$ cd Steam
[11:44] <john> john@john-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Valve/Steam$ ls
[11:44] <john> ClientRegistry.blob  Steam_14.mst  steam_install_agreement.rtf  UNWISE.EXE
[11:44] <john> INSTALL.LOG          Steam_14.pkg  SteamNew.exe
[11:44] <john> Public               Steam.exe     steamTmp.exe
[11:44] <cafuego> !paste
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:45] <cafuego> john:S TOP
[11:45] <shriphani> well one of those exe is your installed things
[11:45] <john> is there a graphic way of looking through these files?
[11:45] <shriphani> john, yes
[11:45] <john> how?
[11:45] <shriphani> ask nautilus to show you hidden files
[11:46] <shriphani> .wine is in your home directory
[11:46] <john> is that a program, person or setting?
[11:46] <shriphani> .........
[11:46] <shriphani> it is your file manager
[11:46] <Alex41> could you please advice me where to find liveCD?
[11:47] <cafuego> Alex41: www.ubuntu.com -> Download.
[11:47] <shriphani> Alex41, it should be there on the ubuntu website
[11:47] <shriphani> i prefer ordering
[11:47] <buzzy> !nvidia
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:48] <john> how do I get file manager?
[11:48] <shriphani> cuz i cant rely on a cracked wireless connection or on my 64 KBps internet
[11:48] <t0taln00b> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[11:48] <shriphani> john, file browser.... file manager rings a bell ?
[11:49] <shriphani> like the ting that opens up when you open a folder
[11:49] <t0taln00b> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:49] <john> I click places - computer- filesystem -- [then what] ???
[11:49] <SpaceFrog> how can i change my default soundcard? I have two in my machine
[11:49] <t0taln00b> use these links to download ubuntu for i386 and amd64
[11:50] <shriphani> john, Places -----> Home Folder
[11:50] <shriphani> then ask it to show you hidden files
[11:51] <john> ok
[11:51] <john> then where from that?
[11:51] <john> how do I ask it to show hidden files
[11:51] <shriphani> press Ctrl + h
[11:52] <john> ohh - thanks
[11:53] <PihI> Hi. What good http proxy is there for Ubuntu? Something as easy-to-use as HideIP for Windows.. Anybody knows an app like that?
[11:55] <tsw> I have two soundcards in this machine, both work fine with alsa but they seems to swap places every now and then. this is a minor annoyance but I was wondering if there is a way to force a card to be 0.0 or 1.0 (yes I know howto make 1.0 default card, but it doest help if cards switch id's)
[11:55] <Alex41> Do Ubuntu partitioning tool on the LiveCD operates like Partition Magic, i.e. do it saves data on other partitions?
[11:56] <Gryffindor> as far as I know it leaves other partitions untouched if you do not touch them
[11:56] <Alex41> and if I want to divide primary partition to the 3 partitions, will it save my data and XP installed?
[11:57] <Gryffindor> do you mean to stretch one partition and create another two?
[11:58] <Gryffindor> I heard partitioning tools from linux distributions do it well, but I've never tried
[11:58] <Gryffindor> so go with caution
[11:58] <Gryffindor> save you data to a bunch of DVDs ...
[11:58] <Alex41> yes, I want make 100 GB primary partion to become to 10+30+60 for example, can they do it in theory?
[11:59] <Gryffindor> i said ... i've never tried but i've heard goog things about
[11:59] <Gryffindor> so take care of your data, just in case
[11:59] <Alex41> OKay, thank you so much
[12:00] <mutleyshome> Try Gparted
[12:00] <ryan_> any suggestions on a bittorrent client
[12:01] <Gryffindor> azureus, oc!
[12:01] <Gryffindor> but it needs java
[12:01] <ryan_> have it
[12:01] <ryan_> java that is
[12:01] <Storkme> how can i increase the brightness of ubuntu when my monitor wont go any brighter?
[12:04] <shriphani> ryan_, bittorrent ?
[12:04] <ryan_> yeah
[12:04] <madcap> Anyone with Edgy Eft workin here?
[12:05] <shriphani> use bittorrent ryan_
[12:05] <lastnode> !edgy
[12:05] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:05] <ryan_> shriphani:/ yeah
[12:05] <madcap> ty ubotu
[12:05] <shriphani> well what else ryan_ ?
[12:06] <Shadowpillar> !schedule
[12:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:06] <ryan_> shriphani: what do you mean what else
[12:08] <shriphani> well your last message put me in doubt whether the conve about the client has ended or not
[12:11] <vik_> I'm running ubuntu on an apple ibook; is there any way to check what type of trackpad it has? It's an ADB one, but I want to know if it is synaptics or not
[12:11] <shriphani> vik dmesg
[12:12] <Storkme> how can i increase the brightness of ubuntu when my monitor wont go any brighter?
[12:12] <ryan_> azureus keeps crashing....
[12:12] <OlKa> witam :D
[12:12] <stgraber> stgraber@laptop:~$ dmesg | grep -i synaptic
[12:12] <stgraber> Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 6.2, id: 0x25a0b1, caps: 0xa04713/0x0
[12:12] <stgraber> synaptics: Toshiba Satellite A100 detected, limiting rate to 40pps.
[12:12] <stgraber> input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /class/input/input1
[12:12] <stgraber> vik_:
[12:12] <OlKa> jest tu kto w wieku 14-15 lat ;>??
[12:13] <shriphani> ryan_, i told you to use bittorrent
[12:13] <vik_> stgraber: if that's not there it
[12:13] <vik_> stgraber: if that's not there it's not synaptic?
[12:13] <ryan_> ad thats why i was looking for a bittorrent client ktorrent keeps crasking as soon as i open it and azureus crashes about 30 sec after opening
[12:13] <gyaresu> ryan_, rtorrent is the best IMO.
[12:13] <shriphani> ryan_, bittorrent is a good client and comes with ubuntu
[12:14] <stgraber> vik_: You can check the dmesg manually (dmesg | more), but it's probably not a synaptics yes
[12:14] <davin> frogzoo: you still there? can wine emulate directx as opengl?
[12:14] <ryan_> oh im sorry .... i got confused with terminoligy.....
[12:14] <shriphani> ryan_, oh lol
[12:15] <ryan_> that what im using now its the only one i can get to work right now
[12:15] <frogzoo> davin: yes indeed, direct x support isn't complete, but it might be good enough depending
[12:15] <davin> frogzoo: okay I see
[12:15] <ryan_> but i like the feel of ktorrent
[12:15] <vik_> stgraber: nup; just says there is an ADB mouse
[12:16] <ryan_> accualy i like utorrent but that windows only with wine or something like that....and it not stable at all in wine
[12:17] <fulhack> Hey. I'm looking for a jukebox sorta thingy for my MP3 collection.. I was thinking amarok, but that's KDE and I'd like to stay GNOMEish.. What do you guys think?
[12:17] <fulhack> The music is on a SAMBA share, so I'd like the payer to integrate well with GNOMEs networking and so forth..
[12:17] <davin> fulhack: You can customize amaroK alot, but you could try Totem or Rhythmbox too
[12:18] <shriphani> fulhack, ubuntu comes with rhytmbox doesnt it ?
[12:18] <fulhack> davin: The problem is that I don't want KDE libraries loaded.
[12:18] <davin> fulhack: you dont have to
[12:18] <fulhack> I'll have a look at rhythmbox :)
[12:18] <davin> fulhack: I have amaroK on GNOME
[12:18] <fulhack> davin: Oh..?
[12:19] <stgraber> fulhack: You have rhythmbox and banshee for gnome
[12:19] <davin> fulhack: just sudo apt-get install amarok and its in your audio/video menu
[12:19] <fulhack> davin: W/o kdebase and that junk?
[12:19] <shriphani> davin, installing amarok will load kdelibs
[12:19] <davin> fulhack: exactly
[12:19] <shriphani> it comes to 80 mb
[12:19] <davin> shriphani: really?
[12:19] <davin> fulhack: ah didnt know that, then it does, sorry
[12:19] <fulhack> shriphani: I haven't used those in a year or so.. I'll check em out :)
[12:20] <fulhack> davin: Not a problem ;)
[12:20] <shriphani> The following extra packages will be installed:
[12:20] <shriphani>   amarok-xine kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a libarts1c2a libavahi-qt3-1
[12:20] <shriphani>   libopenexr2c2a libtunepimp2c2a libxine-main1 libxvmc1 menu-xdg
[12:20] <fulhack> I heard about a GNOME port of amaroK, though..?
[12:20] <shriphani> After unpacking 87.5MB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:21] <mdious> hi everyone...
[12:23] <frogzoo> fulhack: amarok runs on gnome out of the box
[12:23] <frogzoo> fulhack: highly rec'dd btw
[12:24] <fulhack> frogzoo: I don't want the KDE libaries, thats the problem. red,dd?
[12:24] <fulhack> rec'dd* :)
[12:25] <frogzoo> fulhack: rec'dd = recommended - and yes, you need the kde libs
[12:25] <frogzoo> fulhack: but if there's a gnome port as you say...
[12:25] <fulhack> frogzoo: I like the looks of rhythmbox so far, if I can just get it to import my remote files :)
[12:26] <fulhack> Oh. are there some license issues w/ MP3, still?
[12:26] <frogzoo> fulhack: impossible to say - it's a global issue & local laws differ
[12:26] <shriphani> fulhack, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly for mp3
[12:27] <fulhack> Cheers :D
[12:27] <stu_> reading this readme file and its telling me to change the path in the makefile for my kernel source... I have the kernel headers installed but what path do I use?
[12:28] <buzzy> !nvidia
[12:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:28] <fulhack> shriphani: I don't have that package in my repository, which repository should I use?
[12:28] <stu_> universe
[12:28] <shriphani> fulhack, universe
[12:28] <fulhack> There's "universe" .. right, thanks. :)
[12:28] <shriphani> fulhack, is this a new ubuntu installation ?
[12:29] <fulhack> shriphani: yeah, brand new.
[12:29] <shriphani> you need to uncomment the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <fulhack> I haven't used ubuntu in a loong while, so I wanted to try edgy.. and check the XGL+compiz stuff. :)
[12:30] <stu_> atm it says: KERNEL_SOURCE=/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667/build  - I need to change this to the correct path
[12:30] <stu_> im on edgy
[12:30] <stu_> or use the software sources program
[12:30] <shriphani> fulhack, uncomment the sources first
[12:30] <stu_> system - administration - software sources
[12:30] <stu_> just tick all the boxes, done
[12:30] <fulhack> By the way.. The graphical installer on the edgy live-CD could really use some password security checks.
[12:31] <shriphani> fulhack, did you uncomment the sources ?
[12:31] <fulhack> shriphani: Yeah, I have universe now
[12:31] <shriphani> sudo apt-get update
[12:31] <fulhack> Yup ;)
[12:31] <fulhack> I'm an old debian user :P
[12:31] <shriphani> ahh
[12:32] <shriphani> i need a new box to try out the debian i downloaded yesterday
[12:32] <KrakensDen> hi, I need some networking help. I have two nics, one wired doing DHCP, one wireless in ad-hoc mode
[12:32] <KrakensDen> the only other thing of note on the wireless network is a printer
[12:32] <john> hi
[12:32] <KrakensDen> I can ping it if I specify the network interface
[12:32] <john> how do I get permission to systemfiles?
[12:32] <KrakensDen> otherwise I cannot
[12:33] <john> eg - editing valuesfor ATI drivers
[12:33] <KrakensDen> in fact, nothing can connect to it that doesn't allow you to specify the network interface
[12:33] <KrakensDen> like CUPS
[12:33] <stu_> is everyone just going to ignore me and my kernel sources question :S
[12:34] <Lunar_Lamp> stu_ i dont understadn the question
[12:34] <stu_> atm it says: KERNEL_SOURCE=/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667/build  - I need to change this to the correct path for ubuntu edgy
[12:34] <shriphani> john, better use the console for such stufff
[12:34] <Lunar_Lamp> stu_ where does it say that?
[12:34] <stu_> in MakeFile
[12:34] <stu_> reading this readme file and its telling me to change the path in the makefile for my kernel source... I have the kernel headers installed but what path do I use?
[12:35] <Lunar_Lamp> can't you just edit the makefile then?
[12:35] <stu_> yes, but I dunno the path ?
[12:35] <stu_> I can edit fine, just dont know what to change that path to so its correct
[12:35] <Lunar_Lamp> ah right, ii'm not sure - have you tried google?
[12:35] <Lunar_Lamp> (as that's all i'd do now)
[12:35] <stu_> yeah, to much stuff to go thru
[12:35] <stu_> back to goole...
[12:36] <Focuz_> hi alL!
[12:36] <BlueSky> hello
[12:36] <john> I am trying to get drivers for ATI card installed using X11
[12:36] <BlueSky> john, what's the problem?
[12:36] <Focuz_> BlueSky: hi!
[12:36] <shriphani> john, better use easyubuntu
[12:37] <shriphani> !easyubuntu > john
[12:37] <john> !easyubuntu
[12:37] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:37] <john> do i type it in console?
[12:37] <shriphani> john, use that
[12:37] <shriphani> no
[12:38] <shriphani> download it
[12:38] <john> I need drivers for ATI card? What to i use?
[12:38] <BlueSky> I have package conflit but don't want to delete the conflicting packages. How do I force apt to accept them?
[12:38] <shriphani> untar the tarball
[12:38] <shriphani> then point and click
[12:38] <shriphani> john, download it from the link the bot gave you
[12:38] <BlueSky> john: read the manual
[12:38] <john> kk
[12:39] <Storkme> how can i increase the brightness of ubuntu when my monitor wont go any brighter?
[12:39] <BlueSky> Storkme, xgamma command
[12:40] <stu_> dont suppose anyhere is using a shuttle XPC with ubuntu ?
[12:40] <john> got it
[12:41] <Vegeta^> I want to copy a file from a remote server to my computer, when I use the command "scp username@remote.host:directory/filename filename" where is the file copied to?
[12:41] <lastnode> Vegeta^, er directory/filename
[12:41] <lastnode> so for example
[12:42] <lastnode> :home/foo
[12:42] <stu_> to your pwd
[12:42] <stu_> init?
[12:43] <john> thnaks - alot easier
[12:43] <stu_> thats the souce isnt it?
[12:43] <john> Has anyone here set up CS:S using wine?
[12:43] <Vegeta^> lastnode: What do you mean? I want to copy the "filename" to my desktop computer, but all that command does is copy the file "filename" but I can't find it anywhere in my computer.
[12:43] <john> easy ubuntu
[12:43] <stu_> no, but I did see a howto on ubuntu forums
[12:43] <stu_> john:  ^
[12:44] <BlueSky> How do I force ubuntu to ignore some bad packages?
[12:45] <leshaste>  which application would "viewPS" in kile use to display postscript? I ask as it seems to be broken
[12:45] <leshaste> viewPS shows my postscript file as http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7259/kileen9.png . I thought it might be kghostview but that shows it fine
[12:45] <davin> how do I kill a stuck window?
[12:45] <frogzoo> davin: xkill
[12:45] <BlueSky> davin: xkill
[12:46] <spider_sense> hello...can anyone help me??i cannot use the synaptic package manager !!!error:E: Type 'http://exodus.xmms.se/debian' is not known on line 29 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <spider_sense> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:46] <lastnode> Vegeta^, filename is the _remote_ filename you're tyring to copy
[12:46] <stu_> why dont I have a sub dir called build in my /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic folder?
[12:46] <frogzoo> spider_sense: adding bogus debian repos will cause you much misery
[12:47] <spider_sense> how can i remove it??
[12:47] <Vegeta^> lastnode: I don't know where it copies the file if I'm connected to the remote server (by ssh). But when I run the command without using ssh, I copies te file to pwd, as stu_ said.
[12:47] <taylor> what the link to installing w32codecs?
[12:47] <ofer> how it is possible to see mpg4 video files?
[12:48] <frogzoo> spider_sense: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list   & remove that line
[12:48] <ofer> mp4
[12:48] <lastnode> Vegeta^, sorry cant really help you then . :(
[12:48] <taylor> baconbacon gave it to me earliar
[12:48] <madcap> hey whats the eft channel again?
[12:48] <taylor> how do i install w32codecs
[12:49] <Vegeta^> lastnode: It's ok, I just can't copy while I'm connected, I can live with that :)
[12:49] <wilcox> taylor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[12:49] <taylor> thanks
[12:49] <taylor> :)
[12:49] <stu_> lastnode: maybe you know, Im trying to make but getting an error relating to /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic/build not existing.... its right, I dont have a subdir called build in there... do you know if Im missing something ?
[12:50] <spider_sense> i tried
[12:50] <brg> hi total noob here, i tryed et install nvidia-glx in synaptic and i get lovely error: nvidia-glx: Depends: xserver-common but it is not going to be installed
[12:50] <spider_sense> another error
[12:50] <spider_sense> :(
[12:50] <spider_sense> in my terminal
[12:50] <spider_sense> remove: command not found
[12:51] <variant> spider_sense: what are you triing to do?
[12:51] <lastnode> stu_, what are you trying to build?
[12:51] <frogzoo> spider_sense: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:51] <spider_sense> trying to remove a bogus debian repository
[12:52] <variant> spider_sense: its a text file, you need to remove a line from the end of the file
[12:52] <variant> spider_sense: cut the line and save the file
[12:52] <variant> spider_sense: thats all you have to do
[12:53] <stu_> lastnode: drivers for PN18 shuttle wireless adapter
[12:53] <spider_sense> i have the source list edited now
[12:53] <variant> spider_sense: so run apt-get update
[12:53] <spider_sense> do  have to erase something in there?
[12:53] <lastnode> stu_, which howto?
[12:53] <variant> spider_sense: yeah
[12:53] <variant> the entry which is incorrect
[12:53] <prav33n> Hello
[12:53] <variant> prav33n: hi
[12:54] <stu_> lastnode: its a readme file that came with the driver
[12:54] <lastnode> stu_, you have kernel sources?
[12:54] <bewat3r> if i install a programm via a installer, is it then listed in the synaptic package manager?
[12:54] <prav33n> I have problems with emacs-snapshot-gtk fonts under edgy
[12:54] <prav33n> The monospace fonts are not rendered properly
[12:54] <stu_> I have kernel headers
[12:54] <prav33n> Is this a known issue?
[12:56] <spider_sense> how do i run apt-get update???
[12:56] <stu_> lastnode: I have linux-headers and linux-generic and linx-image and linux-image-generic
[12:56] <lastnode> stu_, do a uname-r like a good chap
[12:56] <stu_> sudo apt-get update
[12:57] <stu_> lastnode: 2.6.17-7-generic
[12:57] <stu_> lastnode: in your lib/modules/xxx-generic/ do you have a directory called build ??
[12:57] <lastnode> stu_, hmmm
[12:58] <lastnode> stu_, edgy?
[12:58] <stu_> aye
[12:58] <variant> spider_sense: type it
[12:58] <lastnode> yeah duh
[12:58] <stu_> or not...
[12:58] <lastnode> .17
[12:58] <lastnode> stu_, , #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <spider_sense> i tried
[12:58] <lastnode> im running dapper here
[12:58] <variant> spider_sense: as root or with sudo at the start
[12:58] <gneral> hi
[12:58] <stu_> tried in there, no one is alive
[12:58] <spider_sense> asks for password
[12:58] <variant> spider_sense: so type: sudo apt-get update
[12:58] <variant> spider_sense: and?
[12:58] <spider_sense> and i cannot type it
[12:59] <spider_sense>  doesn't let me type the password
[12:59] <shriphani> spider_sense, you can.... it wont show anything
[12:59] <shriphani> not even stars
[12:59] <shriphani> or what are they called
[12:59] <variant> spider_sense: you shouldnt be able to see the characters.. not even stars
[12:59] <variant> lol
[12:59] <stu_> lastnode: do you have a build directory in your generic kernel folder?
[12:59] <stu_> lastnode: cos at the moment Im not sure if its something missing or a mistake in thie MakeFile
[12:59] <variant> spider_sense: asterisk
[12:59] <IndyBC> When Python 2.5 will be put on the official repository?
[01:00] <whitedeth> !beryl
[01:00] <spider_sense> ahh
[01:00] <spider_sense> ok
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <whitedeth> :|
[01:00] <spider_sense> another error
[01:00] <spider_sense>  Type 'http://exodus.xmms.se/debian' is not known on line 29 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <whitedeth> the bot knows nothing about beryl??
[01:00] <spider_sense> same in fact
[01:00] <variant> spider_sense: so you didnt fix it
[01:00] <variant> spider_sense: remove the line in that file that has that url in it
[01:00] <shriphani> spider_sense, delete that line in the sources.list
[01:00] <stu_> spider_sense: thats the same error you had
[01:00] <stu_> spider_sense: is it not obvious to you that you messed up the syntax of that line within the sources.list ?
[01:00] <KDan> is there a special way of adding users in ubuntu? or is it just useradd/del?
[01:01] <variant> spider_sense: really, make some mental effort here :) we are not here to think for you
[01:01] <variant> KDan: just use useradd or there is a graphical program if you prefer
[01:01] <stu_> KDan: you could use system - administration - users and groups
[01:01] <stu_> but ja, useradd
[01:01] <shriphani> spider_sense, type sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:01] <shriphani> bah
[01:01] <KDan> server install -- so useradd it is then! thanks guys!
[01:01] <shriphani> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <spider_sense> i deleted from the source list
[01:02] <shriphani> spider_sense, you didnt
[01:02] <variant> spider_sense: save it and run apt-get update again
[01:02] <stu_> think you mean sudo vim
[01:02] <stu_> or sudo gedit
[01:02] <shriphani> stu_, i wont recommend vim to  spider_sense
[01:02] <variant> shriphani: lol true
[01:02] <stu_> ja, go with gedit
[01:03] <variant> shriphani: but you were going to not have him use any text editor at all ;)
[01:03] <shriphani> lol i corrected myself immediately
[01:03] <variant> 12:58 < shriphani> spider_sense, type sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <variant> didnt notice
[01:04] <spider_sense> all good now
[01:04] <spider_sense> :)
[01:04] <shriphani> spider_sense, save it
[01:04] <spider_sense> thank u all
[01:04] <spider_sense> !!!!
[01:04] <shriphani> then sudo apt-get update
[01:04] <spider_sense> i did it
[01:05] <spider_sense> still have a question
[01:05] <stu_> can someone please tell me if you have a sub directory called "build" in /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic/ ? - or whatever your kernel version is
[01:05] <spider_sense> how do i instal XMMS.rpm
[01:05] <spider_sense> ?
[01:05] <stu_> you dont
[01:06] <shriphani> spider_sense, you dont install rpm on ubuntu
[01:06] <shriphani> you install debs
[01:06] <snoop> .deb
[01:06] <stu_> spider_sense: system - administration - synaptic package manager
[01:06] <stu_> search xmms, install
[01:06] <saquib> >> In earlier version of ubuntu and in fedora, I found gaim showed me info wen someone closed my msg window! In dapper drake - i cant find any option or how to switch it on... PLEASE help!!!
[01:06] <spider_sense> i haven't found deb version of XMMS anywhere
[01:06] <spider_sense> :(
[01:07] <shriphani> spider_sense, install it with apt-get
[01:07] <spider_sense> how do i install it with apt-get?
[01:07] <stu_> spider_sense: you didnt look very hard
[01:07] <shriphani> spider_sense, sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:07] <snoop> apt-get install package spider_sense
[01:07] <corvus> bonjour, puige avoir un lien pour le serveur fr d'ubuntu svp
[01:07] <thirdalbum> saquib: I believe this feature was buggy, and that it was turned off on purpose
[01:08] <thirdalbum> saquib: It constantly gave me false positives
[01:08] <snoop> spider_sense: if you cant find it try apt-cache seach xmms
[01:08] <snoop> search*
[01:08] <wilcox> corvus: #ubuntu-fr
[01:08] <corvus> merci
[01:08] <taylor> Where can I find Live.com search engine for firefox?
[01:08] <saquib> >> HELP: In earlier version of ubuntu and in fedora, I found gaim showed me info wen someone closed my msg window! In dapper drake - i cant find any option. How can I switch it on??
[01:09] <stu_> spider_sense: system - administration - software sources - click all the boxes in the first tab/window
[01:09] <stu_> spider_sense: then system - administration - synpatic package manager and find it in there
[01:09] <kpgeek> have anyone tried to install ubuntu 6.06 on Q963 Intel original board
[01:09] <spider_sense> another error:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:09] <spider_sense> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:10] <gnomefreak> spider_sense: do you have synaptic open?
[01:10] <stu_> spider_sense: and what do you think that means ?
[01:10] <stu_> let him engage brain for once
[01:11] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:11] <spider_sense> ok
[01:11] <spider_sense> i closed it
[01:11] <kpgeek> have anyone tried to install ubuntu 6.06 on Q963 Intel original board
[01:11] <sexcopter8000m> any ideas why i can't do apt-get update? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25290/
[01:12] <don_risotto> hi
[01:12] <whitedeth> anyone got a download link for beryl?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> whitedeth: join #ubuntu-xgl
[01:12] <whitedeth> already there.
[01:12] <whitedeth> its super dead there tonight.
[01:12] <don_risotto> anyone know about sound card type stuff?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> whitedeth: ask them there is a beryl repo released but i dont have it atm
[01:13] <Justy-> whitedeth, Howto for Xgl/AIGLX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager
[01:13] <whitedeth> ahh, cheers.
[01:13] <whitedeth> Justy: Im using Beryl on Dapper
[01:13] <whitedeth> or atleast trying to :\
[01:13] <variant> don_risotto: just ask
[01:13] <don_risotto> ok
[01:13] <stu_> whitedeth: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[01:13] <don_risotto> I've just installed xubuntu on an Imac G3 600mhz
[01:14] <don_risotto> apparently the soubnd card is a screamer
[01:14] <variant> sexcopter8000m: you have more than one apt process running (synaptic?)
[01:14] <ghost> can i simply install most 32bit .deb packages manually for amd64 using "dpkg --force-architecture"?
[01:14] <don_risotto> but uhh, im having issues with volume
[01:14] <whitedeth> stu_: I've installed/uninstalled Edgy 4 times now. Always a corrupt install. :(
[01:14] <variant> whitedeth: edgy is development version, ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:14] <thirdalbum> don_risotto: Some iMacs have strange issues with sound. With mine, the PCM channel often mutes itself without reason
[01:14] <don_risotto> the only volume control that has any effect is "PC speaker" which controls the master volume  i think
[01:15] <don_risotto> anyway it's ridiculously loud even at lowest volume
[01:15] <whitedeth> variant: I know, which is why im not gonna bother with it again yet. It just doesnt like me/my hardware.
[01:15] <whitedeth> Im following that guide to install Beryl on Dapper instead.
[01:15] <stu_> whitedeth: use lupines repo
[01:15] <stu_> odd, never had an issue installing
[01:15] <sexcopter8000m> variant, oh... there does seem to be an instance of apt running in the background thanks to cron.daily, that must be it
[01:15] <sexcopter8000m> cheers!
[01:16] <Spitfireleet> do you know any apps that can playback .pls files/streams?
[01:16] <variant> sexcopter8000m: any media player
[01:16] <wilcox> pls?
[01:16] <variant> Spitfireleet: any media player
[01:16] <wilcox> what's that
[01:16] <don_risotto> is there a way to disable the inbuilt speakers and keep the headphone output?
[01:16] <variant> Spitfireleet: xmms/beep whatever
[01:16] <variant> Spitfireleet: its a playlist file
[01:16] <wilcox> aah
[01:16] <variant> wilcox: normally for streaming audio
[01:17] <wilcox> ok.
[01:17] <wilcox> :)
[01:17] <snoop> whats the latest ubuntu distro?
[01:17] <whitedeth> stu_: Last time it crashed on Xorg's setup. Wont give me an error either. Just a corrupted screen during the setup.
[01:17] <wilcox> 6.10
[01:17] <wilcox> = stable
[01:17] <stu_> snoop: stable or development ?
[01:17] <Spitfireleet> ok thanks. its just i want an app that can playback streams from wowradio
[01:17] <variant> snoop: s.06 is stable
[01:17] <variant> snoop: 6.06 i mean
[01:17] <stu_> yeh 6.10 is not
[01:17] <wilcox> well it's stable here
[01:17] <wilcox> :)
[01:18] <xopher> ... :P
[01:18] <variant> Spitfireleet: yeah, mplayer or whatever.. what media player you use at the momment?
[01:18] <stu_> whitedeth: what do you mean by corrupted screen cos ive had some weird stuff happening but after a few ctrl+alt+F1 F2, F7's and stuff it came right
[01:18] <whitedeth> stu_: I actually took a picture of it, looking for it now. Just a sec.
[01:19] <saquib> >> HELP: In earlier version of ubuntu and in fedora, I found gaim showed me info wen someone closed my msg window! In dapper drake - i cant find any option. How can I switch it on??
[01:19] <stu_> did it look like a test screen?
[01:19] <stu_> whitedeth: /msg me, going for a smoke
[01:19] <whitedeth> sure
[01:20] <don_risotto> also there's no PCM volume control in alsamixer
[01:20] <don_risotto> is that normal
[01:20] <King_Rabbit> hi all
[01:20] <don_risotto> questoin mark
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> saquib: enable the buddy state notification plugin
[01:20] <Rejo> hi there. i have small question regarding the info on http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases: is an lts release the same thing as a enterpise release? or are these different things?
[01:21] <daurn|afk> PING
[01:21] <King_Rabbit> can anyone help me with cedega??
[01:21] <daurn|afk> !ati
[01:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:21] <ghost> can i simply install most 32bit .deb packages manually for amd64 using "dpkg --force-architecture"?
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: LTS means Long Time Support. Dapper will be supported for longer than other releases.
[01:21] <snoop> so the stable version is 6.06 but 6.10 is the latest?
[01:21] <variant> King_Rabbit: no
[01:21] <saquib> fyrestrtr> but the buddy state notification isnt listed :S
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> snoop: no, 6.10 is what the next one will be.
[01:22] <variant> King_Rabbit: this is ubuntu support channel
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> saquib: install it then :)
[01:22] <King_Rabbit> variant: why not??
[01:22] <wilcox> snoop: for download? yes
[01:22] <variant> King_Rabbit: ask on cedega mailing list/forums
[01:22] <wilcox> #cedega
[01:22] <ubuntu> Hi. I want instal a .deb file and he is in /home/ununtu .. how i install it ??
[01:22] <ompaul> King_Rabbit, I suggest you check out their site and if they have any channels, it is not native to Ubuntu
[01:22] <King_Rabbit> im using cedega on ubuntu??!!??
[01:22] <variant> King_Rabbit: do you need help installing it or making a game run?
[01:22] <saquib> fyrestrtr> nt in synaptic either... wher to get it from?
[01:22] <ompaul> King_Rabbit, it is not a ubuntu program so lots of people would not be using it
[01:23] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: i understood that from the release info page on the website, but it also mentions "enterprise releases" - are these different?
[01:23] <King_Rabbit> ok i see... installing a game...it crashes out!
[01:23] <wilcox> King_Rabbit: vitit #cedega
[01:23] <ubunt_-> Hi. I want install a .deb file and he is in /home/ununtu .. how i install it ??
[01:23] <variant> King_Rabbit: that has nothing to do with ubuntu... ask in #cedega
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: not to my knowledge. Enterprise release just means long time support for enterprises.
[01:23] <shriphani> ubunt_-, dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:23] <King_Rabbit> ok thanks guys!
[01:24] <ubunt_-> shriphani, tks
[01:24] <Spitfireleet> variant: xmms, amarok and rythmbox. when i use firefox, it always sets rythmbox as its default when rythmbox does not play it back :S
[01:24] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: but how do they fit in the other releases? (the regular releases, the lts releases, etc)
[01:24] <shriphani> np
[01:24] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: which is the current enterprise release?
[01:24] <snoop> ubunt_- .deb files you can just double click it and it will install
[01:24] <variant> Spitfireleet: right click/open with
[01:24] <variant> Rejo: 6.06
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: Dapper is the current, stable, recommended release. It is the current Enterprise release.
[01:24] <snoop> how about 6.10?
[01:25] <wilcox> snoop: what about it?
[01:25] <Rejo> and which one was the previous enterprise release?
[01:25] <snoop> [fyrestrtr]  Rejo: Dapper is the current, stable, recommended release. It is the current Enterprise release.
[01:25] <wilcox> Rejo: 6.06 is the first enterprise version
[01:25] <variant> Rejo: 5.10
[01:25] <variant> wilcox: yeah thats true
[01:26] <Rejo> variant: thank you.
[01:26] <variant> Rejo: 5.10 was the last stable version
[01:26] <nesusipratimas> anybody knows good link howto configure proxy server?
[01:26] <variant> Rejo: not specificaly enterprise ready (whatever the hell thats supposed to mean)
[01:26] <variant> nesusipratimas: google for squid ubuntu howto
[01:26] <King_Rabbit> lol...
[01:26] <saquib> fyrestrtr> Buddy State Notification doesnt have Notify option for CLOSING WINDOWs....!
[01:26] <King_Rabbit> noones alive on #cedega
[01:26] <Rejo> and one is able to update from a enterprise version to another enterprise version imediatelly (there is no need to update thru each og the intermediate releases?)
[01:27] <King_Rabbit> oh well...
[01:27] <wilcox> King_Rabbit: have you checked: http://www.transgaming.org ?
[01:27] <wilcox> thus not .com but .org
[01:27] <Rejo> variant: " not specificaly enterprise ready", but that is exactly my problem :)
[01:27] <variant> Rejo: what is your probelm exactly?
[01:27] <Rejo> variant: i want to understand the release schedule in all detail :)
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> saquib: are you using gaim2?
[01:28] <King_Rabbit> wilcox....i recognise your name ASL??
[01:28] <wilcox> rejo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=releases&titlesearch=Titels
[01:28] <wilcox> King_Rabbit: what about my ASL?
[01:29] <King_Rabbit> u from the UK?
[01:29] <wilcox> no
[01:29] <saquib> fyrestrtr> no, watever comes wid DAPPER DAKE...
[01:29] <King_Rabbit> okies
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> saquib: stop typing in caps.
[01:29] <King_Rabbit> not who i thaught
[01:29] <whitedeth> what packages do I need for video/audio playback in Dapper?
[01:29] <whitedeth> was it gestream or something?
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> saquib: gaim2 is available for drake. I have it running here.
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > whitedeth
[01:30] <Rejo> variant: I understand there is a release every six months, with every now and than a lts release. you can update regular release only by update to the intermediate release as well (so, you cannot skip intermediate release) - but about the "enterprise releases" not much ius said
[01:30] <whitedeth> cheers fyrestrtr
[01:30] <Rejo> variant: i want to know, for a server environment, is it better to stick to the enterprise releases or to the regular ones
[01:30] <brg> hi i uninstalled easy ubuntu cause it didnt work but now i dont have that theme eany more some one plz help
[01:30] <Rejo> s/server environment/server production environment/
[01:31] <saquib> fyrestrtr> gaim 2 link????
[01:31] <lastnode> !easyubuntu
[01:31] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:31] <variant> Rejo: if you do apt-get update you get updates for the current release. if you do apt-get dist-upgrad eyou get the next major version
[01:31] <brg> ok thx
[01:31] <wilcox> rejo: there is a server version for ubuntu
[01:31] <variant> Rejo: so untill a new stable version is final or untill a new "enterprise ready" version is out just stick to apt-get update
[01:31] <wilcox> http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/
[01:31] <stu_> whitedeth: no clue dude, that error is a bit messed up
[01:31] <wilcox> but it's 5.10 still
[01:31] <whitedeth> stu_; Exactly. So im back in Dapper after a painful 20 minutes :P
[01:32] <whitedeth> Took me 7 hours to install + 3 to try and fix up Edgy.
[01:32] <stu_> whitedeth: beryl will work on dapper right ?
[01:32] <whitedeth> stu_: Yes, there's a guide for it on the ubuntuforums, im following it right now. Just a bit stuck with the repo's part.
[01:32] <stu_> whitedeth: what gfx card u got btw?
[01:32] <whitedeth> nVidia 7900GS :) It's a laptop.
[01:32] <stu_> whitedeth: wots wrong with the repo? use lupines one
[01:33] <whitedeth> dont know it, or how to add repos for that matter.
[01:33] <whitedeth> first venture into the land of linux heh.
[01:33] <stu_> oh
[01:33] <stu_> u in gnome atm ?
[01:33] <whitedeth> yes
[01:34] <stu_> system - admin - software souces
[01:34] <Rejo> variant: "n addition to the regular six-monthly releases, the Ubuntu team may make an Enterprise Release (based on an existing time-based release) that has received additional stabilisation, polish and translation work. These Enterprise Releases will be supported for a longer period than the standard 18 month support of the time based releases. " - how do i recognize if a stable release (those every six months) is a "enterprise release"?
[01:34] <variant> Rejo: it would be mentioned
[01:34] <stu_> whitedeth: what repo are you tryin to use, cos that post is for edgy
[01:34] <variant> Rejo: if it doesnt tell you that on ubuntu.org then its not one
[01:35] <Rejo> variant: but there is not a fixed schedule? like the regular releases are "every six months"?
[01:35] <whitedeth> stu_: The guide simply asks me to "cd into the beryl directory(where beryl-core etc dirs are)", so I figured I need to download Beryl first. And...then people said I needed to add a repo. :|
[01:35] <variant> Rejo: no
[01:35] <Rejo> variant: thank you
[01:35] <variant> Rejo: yw
[01:35] <Rejo> than i probably best stick to the regular releases :)
[01:35] <stu_> whitedeth: yes, you need a repo for the packages to install them - have you found one for dapper ?
[01:36] <whitedeth> stu_: Nope, didnt know I needed one. Infact, the guide doesnt mention anything about em either.
[01:36] <variant> Rejo: imo you should not do dist-upgrade unless you have a reason
[01:36] <variant> Rejo: stick with apt-get upgrade and you will be using updated version of the enterprise ready version
[01:36] <wilcox> variant: you mean GOOD reason
[01:36] <wilcox> ;)
[01:36] <stu_> whitedeth: doesnt sound like a very good guide, try find a better guide for dapper
[01:36] <variant> wilcox: either
[01:37] <whitedeth> stu_: Bad time, im ONE step away from installing Beryl. Once I acquire it, I have only one step to go.
[01:37] <whitedeth> heh
[01:38] <Rejo> variant: I want to update servers. I now was thinking of update to latest stable after three monthts but before six months after it;s release. In that way I never run more than just a release behind.
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: they will notate it as so. The current enterprise release is Dapper, afaik.
[01:39] <stu_> whitedeth: ok then try find a repo for beryl for dapper
[01:39] <variant> Rejo: if you run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade you get all the security patches etc
[01:39] <stu_> Im not sure what will happen if you add an edgy repo but you could try
[01:39] <lastnode> stu_, no, dont advocate that
[01:39] <stu_> ok, dont add an edgy repo :)
[01:39] <whitedeth> yeah, scary if I lose Dapper again.
[01:39] <lastnode> Rejo, mixing repos is NOT advisable. you maybreak your system.
[01:39] <variant> Rejo: once you have a system in place doing its enterprise thing you shouldnt be updating it to the new release all the time.. thats a very unsafe way to work
[01:39] <lastnode> sorry was that whitedeth
[01:39] <lastnode> :-)
[01:40] <stu_> hes broken his system like 10 times dont think another will hurt if hes testing :P
[01:40] <wilcox> lastnode: indeed.. chances are it will f*ck up the system
[01:40] <whitedeth> testing?!
[01:40] <whitedeth> haha
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> not you *may* break your system, you *will* break your system
[01:40] <Rejo> variant: the releases on the bottom page of http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases
[01:40] <whitedeth> I saw the video of XGL+compiz on YouTube
[01:40] <Rejo> variant: those are enterprise release all?
[01:40] <whitedeth> they make it look WAY too easy.
[01:41] <wilcox> hehe
[01:41] <lastnode> whitedeth, heh, im running it now ;-) it was a pita
[01:41] <XiXaQ> hmm. I thought the Opera Browser was added to the repositories?
[01:41] <nuxien> hello
[01:41] <lastnode> XiXaQ, multiverse iirc
[01:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. how can i mount my DVD ROM drive?
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: no, only Dapper is.
[01:41] <stu_> lastnode: does your system lockup at all ?
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: put a dvd in it.
[01:41] <lastnode> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/dvd ?
[01:41] <lastnode> heh fyrestrtr
[01:41] <whitedeth> lastnode: Im willing to put up withthe pain...if only the damn thing would actually atleast work!
[01:41] <XiXaQ> lastnode, when I select all repos in Synaptic, isn't multiverse part of that?
[01:41] <lastnode> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, what fyrestrtr said
[01:42] <nuxien> i want to connect in root mode on liveCD but i don't know the password
[01:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ohk lol. and please suggest a nice tool to rip my DVDs. to save them.
[01:42] <lastnode> XiXaQ, no idea, i dont use a gui
[01:42] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: ok
[01:42] <lastnode> stu_, nope. fine
[01:42] <variant> Rejo: it will tel lyou if its enterprise release
[01:42] <stu_> I dont remember uninstalling beryl lol
[01:42] <stu_> was just about to fire it up
[01:42] <variant> Rejo: are you actualy in a datacenter or is this just somthing you want for home?
[01:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !DVD
[01:42] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:43] <hastesaver> nuxien, there is no root password; use "sudo ..." to run things as root
[01:43] <Rejo> variant: dc (production environment)
[01:43] <variant> Rejo: cool, me too
[01:43] <whitedeth> stu_: So Beryl doesnt autostart? Or is that optional?
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: in what capacity will you be using ubuntu?
[01:43] <stu_> whitedeth: optional
[01:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey it asks for filesystem. which filesystem does my DVD movie hold?
[01:43] <whitedeth> nice, I dont see why I'd ever turn it off.
[01:43] <stu_> whitedeth: my system locks up after a while
[01:43] <whitedeth> I'm installing it on my laptop for a reason. My laptop can handle it EAAAASSSY.
[01:43] <nuxien> hastesaver, i know sudo but it's to rescue data on ntfs partition and sudo cd /mnt doesn't work
[01:43] <variant> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: you dont need to mount a dvd to watch it
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: who asks?
[01:44] <whitedeth> stu_: Slow system the cause or buggy software?
[01:44] <hastesaver> nuxien, use "sudo -i" to start a root shell. After that, all commands are executed as root.
[01:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol. ok guys. do i need to mount to rip it
[01:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ?
[01:44] <hastesaver> nuxien, in other words, use "sudo -i" to login as root :-)
[01:44] <stu_> nuxien: sudu gnome-terminal
[01:44] <nuxien> oky, thx
[01:44] <variant> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: no, use mencoder
[01:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok thanks
[01:44] <stu_> whitedeth: presume dodgy software
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: no. Just stick a DVD in it. It will automount. Then use whatever program you want to rip it.
[01:44] <stu_> whitedeth: beryl is seriously beta
[01:44] <variant> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: type man mencoder there are example command at the bottom of the manpage
[01:45] <hastesaver> variant, he's gone
[01:45] <variant> fyrestrtr: it wont automount
[01:45] <hastesaver> variant, and acidrip is a good gui for mencoder :)
[01:45] <variant> hastesaver: i noticed
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> variant: it wont? since when?
[01:45] <whitedeth> stu_: Isnt Edgy beta? So both Beryl AND Edgy are beta? Nice. I've been running super beta's with other super beta's and then wondering why they wont work.
[01:45] <variant> hastesaver: ew, its like using k3b instead of cdrecord..
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> whitedeth: edgy is *alpha*
[01:45] <variant> fyrestrtr: since you dont need to mount video dvd's
[01:45] <stu_> edgy is beta now
[01:45] <whitedeth> ouch.
[01:45] <variant> fyrestrtr: only data dvd's
[01:45] <Rejo> fyrestrtr, variant: at my current dayjob I have 6 - 10 servers running Ubuntu in a production environment. They are running our mailplatform mainly, plus one backup server, a second one is coming.
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> its edgy .. that's all ya need to know.
[01:46] <mixandgo> hello, any ideea why my mouse is not working after fresh install + update ?
[01:46] <stu_> is it plugged in
[01:46] <nickspoon> hehe.
[01:46] <mixandgo> stu_: :)
[01:46] <stu_> try another usb port
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: what do you use for mail?
[01:46] <mixandgo> I've tryed them all
[01:46] <Rejo> fyrestrtr, variant: now i want to complete understand the release schedule for another project, which, again is a official production environment (in which the ubuntu boxes will run mainly apaches)
[01:46] <snoop> maybe xorg is not detecting it?
[01:46] <variant> Rejo: sounds good, stick with security updates in that case
[01:46] <nickspoon> mixandgo: lsusb
[01:47] <Rejo> variant: sure, daily checking script for that
[01:47] <variant> Rejo: there isint much else to know other than that
[01:47] <stu_> might kick it into action
[01:47] <stu_> o
[01:47] <stu_> tried other usb devices?
[01:47] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: postfix, amavis, clamav, spamd, etc
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: well, the normal release schedule is 6 months. However, the bigger concern is the support time period. Dapper is LTS, which means Canonical will support it for ... I think 5 years.
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: oh, so nothing comprehensive like I do :D
[01:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> morning guys...
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> 1448 here
[01:48] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: well, the shorter support time period wouldn't be a problem as long as we update our servers regularly as well.
[01:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> what does everyone use to burn .iso in ubuntu
[01:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> amost 8am here
[01:48] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: that s the reason for my inquiry
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: that's the point. Support includes updates.
[01:48] <variant> [BTF] Chm0d: type cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdrom filename.ise
[01:49] <nickspoon> [BTF] Chm0d: nautilus's cd burner.
[01:49] <variant> [BTF] Chm0d: type cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdrom filename.iso
[01:49] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: i meant, update of distri
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: so, if support runs out, updates also stop.
[01:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> thx
[01:49] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: not just package updates
[01:49] <nickspoon> [BTF] Chm0d: I just right-click the image and select Burn ISO :)
[01:49] <variant> Rejo: at which point you then choose whether or not to do dist-upgrade :)
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: well hell, there is no such thing as distro will stop updating. Ubuntu won't just stop completely, they'll stop updating particular releases.
[01:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> :O
[01:49] <variant> Rejo: but as these are years apart it shouldnt be of much concern
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: an normally, you don't update production machines that often. If its running, leave it alone.
[01:50] <hastesaver> variant, so you were really serious about not using k3b instead of cdrecord? wow.
[01:50] <Beryl> Hi guys can anyone help me with installing compiz or beryl
[01:50] <Beryl> please come private
[01:50] <hastesaver> !private
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about private - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <r-o-n-a-l-d> Somone HELp! D: My ubuntu system wont boot up it keeps giving me: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:51] <ompaul> !compiz
[01:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:51] <nuxien> bye
[01:51] <ompaul> Beryl, ^^^ read those linnks
[01:51] <nickspoon> !beryl
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: and if you do want to update them ... say your production envrionment needs to be upgraded to Apache2 + PHP5 or whatever, then you'd be glad to know that Canonical will support all LTS releases for longer than normal, so if you should break something, support is there. Support also includes updates to security and new package releases/versions.
[01:51] <nickspoon> :O
[01:51] <Beryl> well
[01:51] <hastesaver> !msg
[01:51] <Beryl> i tried everything
[01:51] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[01:51] <Rejo> variant: the thing is, i want to keep uptodate with the major releases (it's a managed server enviroment, that second project) and i know from experience customers always ask for stuff that is not (yet) included
[01:52] <variant> Rejo: you can do that.. but you risk downtime due to unforseen concequenses
[01:52] <pradeep> r-o-n-a-l-d, I had the same problem..i reinstalled the kernel to fix that
[01:52] <whitedeth> what do I need to play WMV files? :\
[01:52] <variant> whitedeth: mplayer.
[01:52] <Beryl> whitedeth:
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: for stuff that isn't available, you can always compile it manually in your test environment before migrating your production servers.
[01:52] <nickspoon> Beryl: make sure the multiverse repos. is enabled, then sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl compiz compiz-gnome
[01:52] <Rejo> variant: sure, that is why i am asking for the details :) i wnat best of both worlds
[01:52] <Beryl> you need the restricted formates
[01:52] <variant> whitedeth: the only wmv files that you wont be able to play are those infected with drm
[01:52] <nickspoon> whitedeth: w32codecs.
[01:52] <nickspoon> !w32codecs
[01:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:52] <whitedeth> oh w32codecs
[01:52] <whitedeth> cheers
[01:53] <stu_> wots the difference between compiz and beryl ?
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: if you are setting up a test and production environment, don't have testing = edgy and production = dapper. That won't work very well.
[01:53] <Beryl> nickspoon: I tried that but compiz-plugins is not available
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> stu_: one is a technology, other is a nick.
[01:53] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: i want to prevent manually compilations to avoid problems with scalibility, security and managebility.
[01:53] <earthian> !upgrade
[01:53] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:53] <snoop> !w32codecs
[01:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:53] <Beryl> nickspoon: because they are busy with beryl
[01:53] <Wolfpaws> mkay.... Looks like the Python package in edgy is currently broken :|
[01:53] <earthian> !dist-upgrade
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <earthian> hm
[01:54] <slabby> how do I mount a ntfs drive so that i can delete files on it?
[01:54] <nickspoon> Beryl: I do know where you can get all the required packages in .deb, would you like a link?
[01:54] <hastesaver> earthian, what do you want?
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: if you are worried about security and managability, then you really don't want to do updates ;)
[01:54] <earthian> distro*
[01:54] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: i was planning to run only the stable releases, so hoary to breezer to dapper to $next-release
[01:54] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: as said, i want best of both worlds :)
[01:54] <we2by> guys, what tool can I use to remap my keyboard?
[01:54] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: i want to make right choices by finding out the details
[01:54] <strike> did anyone run debian on intel D101GGC with sata hard disk?
[01:54] <we2by> !xmod
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <strike> oops.. ubuntu?
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: bottom line is, if you test environment and production environment both run the same release, then updates are not an issue in your production setup. Normally though, you don't upgade distributions just to get newer versions, there is the concept of backports :)
[01:54] <we2by> !xmodmap
[01:55] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[01:55] <slabby> how do I mount a ntfs drive so that i can delete files on it?
[01:55] <hastesaver> earthian, did you read that page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > slabby
[01:55] <earthian> nope :o
[01:55] <strike> if yes, which version?
[01:55] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: anwyays, i don't think it is a good idea to keep running dapper for say, the next 2 years and waiting for the next enterprise or lts release
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: why not?
[01:55] <hastesaver> earthian, read it; it will tell you to look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades :)
[01:55] <earthian> yeap
[01:55] <earthian> :)
[01:55] <variant> Rejo: that seems perfectly good idea to me
[01:55] <earthian> found
[01:55] <earthian> thanks
[01:56] <variant> Rejo: with the support and security updates thats not a problem
[01:56] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: but backports, i have a bad feeling about them as well - maybe seen to many problems on woody and sarge with that
[01:56] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: why do you think its a bad idea to run dapper for 2 years?
[01:56] <hastesaver> Rejo, when they mean Dapper will be supported for 5 years, they really mean it. :p
[01:56] <slabby> !ntfs
[01:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:58] <slabby> is there no way of mounting an NTFS drive so that I can delete files off it?
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> slabby: sure there is
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs-3g
[01:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[01:59] <variant> slabby: you ignore everythin we have told you so far
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> slabby: also see !fuse
[01:59] <Rejo> fyrestrtr:  the reason is that I want to avoid running stuff from backports and / or manually would have to compile and package stuff
[01:59] <slabby> i read that guide posted it says: "At this time, NTFS may only be mounted read-only by the kernel. This means information may be read, but no information may be written"
[01:59] <variant> slabby: you obviously didnt read it all
[02:00] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: so, the idea is (was?) to update to regular releases of ubuntu with a three months backlog and keep up to date that way
[02:00] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: well the other way is more of a gamble if you ask me. No one upgrades releases just to get updates.
[02:00] <Sktfeelssleepy> how do i unblock my second drive?!?!?! ARG
[02:00] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: ... and support for new packages
[02:00] <hastesaver> Rejo, why not *not* use backports, and not install anything new?
[02:00] <Sktfeelssleepy> !mount
[02:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:00] <fyrestrtr> Rejo: I don't think its a problem to be honest, especially for servers.
[02:01] <stu_> why is there an emerald on the top of the desktop cube with beryl?
[02:01] <Rejo> hastesaver: as said, i have seen so many horrible things when people got things from backports (especially on woody and sarge)
[02:01] <stu_> what I guess im asking is why is there a top to the cube
[02:01] <stu_> which u cant use
[02:01] <hastesaver> Rejo, it is impossible to both have the latest versions of all apps *and* be stable
[02:01] <snoop> !upgrade
[02:01] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:01] <variant> stu_: annoying isint it :)
[02:01] <Rejo> hastesaver: at some point it always gets a mess (and / or backports itself is unavailble or poorly maintained
[02:01] <hastesaver> Rejo, so don't use backports then
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> stu_: you can use it.
[02:01] <snoop> !xorg
[02:01] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:02] <Rejo> hastesaver: exactly my point
[02:02] <stu_> fyrestrtr: for what?
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> stu_: slap a picture of your dog on there, for example.
[02:02] <stu_> lol
[02:02] <variant> lol
[02:02] <stu_> I want a desktop up there
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> stu_: or hit ctrl+alt+pgdn
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> if you don't like the top faces.
[02:02] <stu_> oo cool
[02:02] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm i burned the iso now i dont have the permissions to view contents of it LOL
[02:02] <[BTF] Chm0d> wtf
[02:02] <variant> stu_: i want a multi faceted helix :)
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> stu_: then you put a panoramic background to that :)
[02:03] <variant> [BTF] Chm0d: you will have to mount it
[02:03] <stu_> I really like the drag mouse to bottom left effect
[02:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> thought it automatically mounts cuz its on my desktop
[02:03] <snoop> how owuld I get into the xprg setup again?
[02:04] <variant> [BTF] Chm0d: type mount to see if its mounted
[02:04] <hastesaver> Rejo, try it and see. I don't think you'll miss anything much.
[02:04] <snoop> how would I get into the xorg setup again?
[02:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> yea its mounted but only root has permissions
[02:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> is that by default?
[02:04] <stu_> fyrestrtr: you mean one wallpaper that spans all the desktops ??
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> stu_: no, a fisheye wallpaper that shows up when you hit cltr+alt+pgdn :)
[02:05] <Rejo> hastesaver: i will definatelly consider keep running dapper for longer. would save us some work as well :)
[02:05] <variant> stu_: thats a good idea
[02:05] <variant> stu_: /me is going to make a very long image to do just that :)
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> there are already a few floating on the net. Just google for xgl panorama images
[02:06] <variant> fyrestrtr: cool
[02:06] <stu_> variant: do you know if you can have a single image spanning all desktops?
[02:06] <variant> fyrestrtr: might make one of the inside of this datacenter and set it to "inside" mode :)
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> stu_: no, not on gnome.
[02:06] <stu_> damn
[02:07] <snoop> how would I get into the xorg setup again?
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> variant: you'd need a fisheye lens for that.
[02:07] <snoop> !xorg setup
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg setup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> snoop: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <variant> fyrestrtr: doesnt have to be perfect
[02:07] <snoop> thanks
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> for me it does :)
[02:07] <variant> fyrestrtr: yeah, without a fisheye its not going to be though :)
[02:08] <variant> fyrestrtr: been thinking of getting a digiatal slr maybe i get fish lense too :)
[02:08] <fyrestrtr> or do what I did -- have dual screen with xgl :) double the pleasure.
[02:08] <variant> fyrestrtr: xinerama?
[02:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> good morning all!
[02:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> can somebody help me with k3b?  it says my mp3 files are an unsupported format
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> variant: http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png :)
[02:09] <hastesaver> jUggERNAUt1980, do mp3s play in other apps?
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> !mp3 > jUggERNAUt1980
[02:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> hastesaver, yes, they do.  they play in xmms
[02:10] <hastesaver> jUggERNAUt1980, and are you trying to write an audio CD or just a normal data CD? (Because in the latter case, k3b shouldn't even care)
[02:10] <stu_> fyrestrtr: did you google xgl panorama images - cos Im not finding much
[02:10] <variant> fyrestrtr: very nice, i would like a setup simmmilar but with very thin border screens
[02:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> hastesaver, i'm trying to write an audio cd.
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> variant: yeah, the theme was to annoy vista fanboys :)
[02:10] <variant> fyrestrtr: hehe
[02:11] <variant> fyrestrtr: how does xgl work on that? does each monitor hav eits own cube or is it one cube streched?
[02:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> fyrestrtr, what was to annoy vista farmboys?
[02:11] <hastesaver> Jug, try "sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs" tell me if it works
[02:11] <stu_> farmboys lol
[02:11] <hastesaver> Jug, sorry that was for jUggERNAUt1980 :(
[02:12] <stu_> fyrestrtr: what res do you use ?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> stu_: http://xgl.reggaemanu.info/skydomes/
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> stu_: 1280x1024 (x2 for two screens)
[02:13] <stu_> looked bigger, what theme is that by the way ?
[02:13] <stu_> I like the minimise/maximise buttons
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> its a vista theme for compiz
[02:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> hastesaver, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed
[02:14] <stu_> fyrestrtr: u using beryl or compiz?
[02:14] <fyrestrtr> stu_: 2560x2048 is the real resolution.
[02:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> hastesaver, thanks for the assistance bro, but i have to hit the road now.  workin out of state suxx!!  :)
[02:14] <fyrestrtr> stu_: don't know what tha heck beryl is -- I use xgl.
[02:14] <stu_> beryl is a fork from compiz
[02:14] <stu_> I think
[02:14] <stu_> :P
[02:15] <whitedeth> yes it is
[02:15] <stu_> why the fork? is there more stuff in beryl ?
[02:15] <fyrestrtr> variant: its one stretched cube.
[02:15] <piratepenguin> !xorg
[02:15] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:15] <piratepenguin> does Ubuntu 6.06 use Xorg 6.8 or 7.0 or what?
[02:16] <variant> fyrestrtr: must look a bit weird
[02:16] <variant> piratepenguin: 6.06 uses 7.0 iirc and 6.10 dev version is 7.1
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> if you flatten the cube it looks great.
[02:16] <variant> fyrestrtr: what do you mean?
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> rotation? yeah, great to give people headaches.
[02:16] <piratepenguin> variant, k, thanks
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> variant: ctrl+alt+pgdn = flatten cube
[02:17] <variant> fyrestrtr: hmm, what effect does that have? i never tried it
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> variant: try it, but to really go wow -- try it with a skydome image.
[02:17] <variant> fyrestrtr: i will have to reinstall aiglx :)
[02:18] <variant> fyrestrtr: well, reconfigure it i should say
[02:19] <whitedeth> so anyone know a repo for Beryl in Dapper?
[02:19] <variant> whitedeth: /join ubuntu-xgl
[02:19] <we2by> !mp3
[02:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:19] <whitedeth> good idea. Im already there but I should probably ask.
[02:23] <we2by> what ftp client can I use on ubuntu?
[02:23] <we2by> I only need a simple one
[02:25] <chemaja> we2by, `ftp'?
[02:25] <we2by> one with a gui :\
[02:25] <chemaja> we2by, gftp?
[02:25] <snoop> !ftp
[02:25] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:26] <snoop> got that we2by?
[02:26] <npster> Will it boot and install if i burn a disc2.iso or only the disc1.iso will work ?
[02:26] <we2by> snoop, yea
[02:26] <snoop> k
[02:26] <we2by> I can connect to my ftp account using gnome
[02:26] <we2by> but there is a problem/bug
[02:26] <sofus> yo what apt-get can i use to get java and java plugin for firefox?
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> !java > sofus
[02:27] <we2by> I can browse etc. but I can rename files like I can on a local filesystem
[02:27] <sofus> !java
[02:27] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:27] <sofus> thanx :)
[02:28] <snoop> sofus: sun-java5-plugin ?
[02:28] <snoop> for i386
[02:28] <juker> Hi, while trying to install ubuntu-6.06.1 on my new thinkpad x60s I'm getting in trouble. While running through the installation program the screen suddenly gets dark. And keeps so until a system reset. I've such a system just in front of me, and I have a remote shell to it. The last syslog lines are "in-target: Setting up xserver-xorg (7.0.0-0ubuntu45) ..." and "debconf: Obsolete command TITLE Configuring xserver-xorg called". Does anybody kn
[02:28] <Rejo> fyrestrtr: but, if running only the enterprise /lts releases, there is little advantage to ubuntu instead of debian?
[02:28] <sofus> ye
[02:28] <spider_sense> is the movie player able to see movies in .wmv, .mpeg or .mpg format ??? or do i have to encode it in another format type?
[02:28] <juker> The last ps line is /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst conf
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> spider_sense: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:29] <snoop> u can apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[02:29] <hastesaver> spider_sense, short answer: it can
[02:29] <juker> What is the installation process doing? Is it possible to install ubuntu without X, first?
[02:30] <fyrestrtr> juker: yes, use the alternate install cd.
[02:31] <david_> is it possible to make my home directory not visible to other users?
[02:31] <tuxmaniac> err.. As in david_ ?
[02:31] <sofus> hmm damn i get "Couldnt find package" on the java
[02:32] <david_> david
[02:32] <cbx33> anyone know anything about hte new beta nvidia driver?
[02:32] <cbx33> does it boost graphics performance under wine for games for example?
[02:32] <sofus> and thing i need to add in the sources.list?
[02:32] <hastesaver> david_, yes, use "chmod og-rwx ~"
[02:32] <str4nd> Hi. How i can downgrade Xorg 7.1 to Xorg 7.0, because fglrx doesn't work on 7.1
[02:32] <david_> thanx
[02:32] <str4nd> (or is this too common question)
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> str4nd: sure it does
[02:34] <snoop> sofus: in the sources.list take out the ## next to deb
[02:34] <str4nd> fyrestrtr: oh, can you tell me about it?
[02:35] <snoop> sofus: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <fyrestrtr> str4nd: what would you like to know?
[02:35] <str4nd> fyrestrtr: howto downgrade xorg 7.1 -> 7.0
[02:35] <fyrestrtr> no, but I know that fglrx works on 7.1
[02:35] <yanos> slt
[02:35] <str4nd> fyrestrtr: or how i can put to work fglrx on 7.1
[02:36] <str4nd> fyrestrtr: Not to me..
[02:36] <fyrestrtr> str4nd: are you running edgy?
[02:36] <str4nd> fyrestrtr: yes.
[02:36] <fyrestrtr> then ask in #ubuntu+1 :)
[02:36] <fyrestrtr> you have to build the driver as you would normally, just make sure you have proper kernel headers, etc. installed. basically, follow the wiki.
[02:37] <snoop> fyrestrtr: are you a ubuntu dev?
[02:38] <str4nd> fyrestrtr: did "Using the drivers from ati.com" helps me if i try?
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> snoop: no
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> str4nd: sure, just follow the wiki instructions.
[02:39] <str4nd> fyrestrtr: oh, i just try dapper-howto ;)
[02:39] <str4nd> but.. Thanks very much!
[02:44] <juker> fyrestrtr: "yes, use the alternate install cd". The laptop has no cdrom drive, I'm installing via PXE netbooting. If I download the alternate install cd, will I find the appropriate netboot files in there?
[02:45] <spider_sense> how do i create a launcher for my xmms ?
[02:45] <deyan> I have a question about apt-get, I want to install a package A, but it depends on another package B. I can not find B, But I know A can works without B.
[02:45] <juker> fyrestrtr: I'm currently PXE installing from "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/"
[02:45] <deyan> How can I tell apt-get to install A even if I do not install B.
[02:45] <lastnode> deyan, try -f ?
[02:46] <variant> deyan: --force i think
[02:46] <variant> deyan: you are probably just missing a repo
[02:46] <variant> anyone know if you can download hte entire google earh database?
[02:47] <deyan> lastnode, variant both -f and --force do not work.
[02:47] <deyan> variant, It's not a package which ubuntu even debian support.
[02:48] <variant> deyan: i see
[02:50] <AAAle> Does anyone have a postfix mail server on dapper?
[02:50] <Rejo> yes, me
[02:50] <AAAle> i got a problem
[02:50] <AAAle> i'm not able to receive mail from the net
[02:50] <AAAle> any suggestions?
[02:50] <AAAle> want to see main.cf ?
[02:50] <AAAle> and / or master.cf ?
[02:51] <AAAle> i put aaale:   aaale in /etc/aliases
[02:51] <whitedeth> !repository
[02:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:51] <AAAle> run newaliases
[02:51] <Rejo> 1) that sounds hardly as a ubuntu problem. 2) secondly, you do get mail to that box and it is rejected, or is there not any mail deliery attempts at all?
[02:52] <AAAle> i always got that kind of log: lost connection after CONNECT from
[02:52] <AAAle> wait i nopaste somthing
[02:52] <Rejo> AAAle: what happens if you telnet to that box?
[02:52] <Rejo> AAAle: port 25 (of course)
[02:53] <AAAle> http://rafb.net/paste/results/bfN9IQ52.html
[02:53] <AAAle> Rejo: i try
[02:53] <AAAle> Rejo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/o9KWvg91.html
[02:53] <AAAle> it seems to work
[02:53] <Rejo> AAAle: ok, now go ahead typing a smtp session
[02:53] <AAAle> i think that it is a ubuntu problem because same configuration in gentoo works
[02:54] <we2by> chmod a+s cpufreq-selector  is this setuid?
[02:54] <Fackamato> Hi!
[02:54] <Fackamato> I'm having difficulties with Edgy eft here... can't get internet access on it
[02:55] <admin_> I have a problem with my laptops wired ethernet interface, it will show up in config, but when i try to connect it to say a switch or router, the switch or routers lights dont go on, but, dmesg notices it conected: sky2 eth0: Link is up at 10 Mbps, half duplex, flow control none
[02:55] <t9k280> hello
[02:55] <Fackamato> I've got ADSL (dhcp), and I get the IP adress and such, but I get 'network unreachable' when trying to ping anything
[02:55] <SophoS>  any idea when a flash player will be available linux?
[02:55] <Fackamato> I successfully get DNS servers and a gateway but it doesn't work, any ideas?
[02:55] <Fackamato> it works fine in windows
[02:55] <t9k280> how may I set up grub on the main hard disk in order to load both Windows and Linux(that is on a LACIE USB HD) ? thank you so much in advance :)
[02:55] <variant> Fackamato: run sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[02:56] <Ignite_> SophoS, afaik it should be out any minute now, atm we just have flash 7, or you could use gnash.
[02:56] <Fackamato> variant I've commented out eth1 .... to wan0 in /etc/network/interfaces, I've run /etc/init.d/network stop , then started it again, it successfully conncets to the dhcp server and gets the information
[02:56] <Fackamato> but my internet a ccess still doesn't work after that
[02:56] <Fackamato> it's very strange..
[02:56] <variant> SophoS: flash player 9 is due end 2007 iirc
[02:56] <PiedotLinux> Anyone here know how to use SDL?
[02:56] <Fackamato> what's the output of your 'route' ?
[02:57] <PiedotLinux> (Programming wise) :x
[02:57] <Ignite_> variant, really that far ahead? O.o
[02:57] <Fackamato> just so that I can compare the syntax (not the ip addresses ifc)
[02:57] <variant> Ignite_: blame macromedia
[02:57] <Ignite_> variant, Adobe*
[02:57] <PiedotLinux> Adobe ate Macromedia
[02:57] <PiedotLinux> :X
[02:57] <variant> Ignite_: there is flash 7 which seems to work for any site i have seen
[02:57] <Ignite_> variant, I know.
[02:57] <Ignite_> variant, except those very few which like to complain...
[02:57] <variant> Ignite_: if you find one that doesnt you can install flash9 in wine
[02:58] <Ignite_> variant, I don't care..
[02:58] <Ignite_> _
[02:58] <AAAle> Rejo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/CfqnK556.html <-- with telnet works
[02:59] <Ignite_> variant, sorry, I think you may have confused me with SophoS, I don't need info on flash, I've been a linux god since age 11. :-P
[02:59] <Ignite_> GNU/Linux*
[02:59] <stu_> I have a usb key that when I plug in it tells me it cant mount, windows cant deal with it either, neither system can determine the size of it, what should I do ?
[02:59] <stu_> it was working earlier
[02:59] <Rejo> AAAle: i am missing the responses of the server, but i still believe this works. what happens if you telnet from another point?
[03:00] <Rejo> AAAle: and, you don't get the same disconnects on the other box ?
[03:00] <Rejo> AAAle: i believe those are quite normal
[03:00] <AAAle> Rejo: have i got to telnet from a machine external to my network?
[03:00] <Rejo> AAAle: think of callback and sender verification stuff and such
[03:01] <PiedotLinux> Anyone know how to use the SDL graphics library?
[03:01] <AAAle> how can i configure callback and sender verification ?
[03:01] <PiedotLinux> For C/++?
[03:01] <semPid> what should i do when linux crashes?
[03:01] <PiedotLinux> cry
[03:01] <PiedotLinux> xD
[03:01] <PiedotLinux> i do
[03:01] <PiedotLinux> :P
[03:01] <semPid> :o
[03:02] <semPid> that doesnt solve the prob =P
[03:02] <frying_fish> semPid: that would be a lot rarer than when windows crashes, and define what you mean by crash
[03:02] <Ignite_> PiedotLinux, maybe this isn't the correct channel to be asking that question. ;-)
[03:02] <Fackamato> Could anyone PM me the outputs of 'route' ?
[03:02] <frying_fish> as most things can be resolved by just killing the process and restarting it.
[03:02] <Fackamato> I just want to see the syntax.
[03:02] <semPid> frying_fish i was configuring wireless connection
[03:03] <POVaddct> Fackamato: should look something like this: http://84.179.108.91:28681/
[03:03] <no0tic> is the upgrade to edgy from dapper a clean process now?
[03:03] <skeff> each time my system boots, it seems like it checks the filesystem, which is quite annoying. I'm not sure if it actually does a check or if there is something else going on, because there is very little info in any of the consoles. I have "0 1" on my dump/pass fields in fstab.. that's right, right?
[03:03] <semPid> e typed the pw's and stuff, clicked OK and it crashed
[03:03] <frying_fish> ok, so what the wireless now doesn't work? you can probably just ifdown the device and ifup it, and then use iwconfig and such
[03:03] <Fackamato> POVaddct yeah thanks, it doesn't!
[03:03] <Fackamato> I have a * under gateway
[03:03] <frying_fish> it "crashed" it stopped working? if so restart network-manager
[03:03] <frying_fish> or nm-applet
[03:03] <semPid> no no no
[03:03] <Fackamato> but under destination I have an IP from my ISP
[03:03] <POVaddct> Fackamato: route -n
[03:03] <Fackamato> not in linux, sorry
[03:03] <semPid> the OS crashed
[03:03] <Fackamato> what does route -n do?
[03:04] <frying_fish> semPid: the whole OS I doubt it.
[03:04] <Fackamato> (since I don't have net in ubuntu yeT)
[03:04] <semPid> i cannot even use the mouse, it stopped
[03:04] <frying_fish> semPid: ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:04] <frying_fish> (restarts X)
[03:04] <semPid> ok
[03:04] <POVaddct> Fackamato: does not resolve hostnames
[03:05] <POVaddct> Fackamato: Fackamato but there should be one line with gateway entry different from "*" or "0.0.0.0"
[03:05] <Fackamato> there isn't..
[03:05] <semPid> frying_fish dind't work either :s
[03:05] <Fackamato> when I type 'route' only, I get one line, with the 92.. something IP from my ISP, and under gateway, it's a *
[03:06] <Fackamato> ;/
[03:06] <semPid> brb
[03:06] <POVaddct> Fackamato: then your dhcp server does not give you the default gateway (or the default gw is already set to something else)
[03:06] <Otacon22> hi all
[03:06] <Otacon22> i am installing xgl
[03:06] <Otacon22> but
[03:06] <Otacon22> i have done the command
[03:06] <Otacon22> gnome-window-decorator --sm-disable
[03:06] <Otacon22> but
[03:06] <Otacon22> it is working on it
[03:07] <POVaddct> Fackamato: look at the output of "ipconfig" in windows now. what is set as the default gateway?
[03:07] <Otacon22> since 10 minutes
[03:07] <Fackamato> POVaddct I'll see
[03:07] <marcin_ant> !jmircon
[03:07] <Fackamato> my gateway is 90.224.32.1
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jmircon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <marcin_ant> !jmicron
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jmicron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[03:08] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me what is the status of jmicron issue in dapper?
[03:08] <marcin_ant> I just realized that I still cannot use my cd/dvd drive on linux
[03:08] <POVaddct> Fackamato: so save that information to a file and copy it to usb stick. then reboot to linux and try to set the gateway manually: route add default gw 90.224.32.1
[03:09] <Otacon22> hey guys!
[03:09] <we2by> how do I search in the installed packages?
[03:09] <POVaddct> Fackamato: and check if name resolving works (check /etc/resolv.conf)
[03:10] <Fackamato> POVaddct name resolving doesn't work
[03:10] <Fackamato> I get DNS servers (which are 195.67.199.33 to 35), but I can't ping them (network unreachable)
[03:10] <POVaddct> Fackamato: i mean after you set the gateway correct
[03:10] <Fackamato> oh hum.
[03:11] <POVaddct> Fackamato: i suspect there is already a default gateway set
[03:11] <Fackamato> shouldn't it show in 'route' ?
[03:11] <Parabola> yes
[03:11] <POVaddct> Fackamato: yeah
[03:11] <Parabola> route add gw default <ip> is the command as i recall
[03:12] <Fackamato> isn't it route add default gw <ip>
[03:12] <Fackamato> ;P
[03:12] <Fackamato> (not sure)
[03:12] <POVaddct> Parabola: route add default gw ...
[03:12] <Parabola> :( might be mate
[03:12] <Fackamato> hehe
[03:12] <Parabola> lol
[03:12] <Fackamato> ok well
[03:12] <we2by> how do I search in the installed packages?
[03:12] <Fackamato> so when I reboot into my ubuntu installation, the network script gets IP and everything from the DHCP server, and I still get destination unreachable when trying to access the net.....
[03:12] <Fackamato> what's the first thing I do?
[03:13] <lastnode> Fackamato, ping your router
[03:13] <Fackamato> it's a straight PC <> ADSL modem connection i.e. no router
[03:13] <POVaddct> Fackamato: if pinging to the router works, set the gateway manually, just for testing
[03:13] <Parabola> :(
[03:13] <Parabola> no looting me
[03:14] <POVaddct> Fackamato: then your adsl is other than mine. i have to use PPPoE to use adsl.
[03:14] <Fackamato> I don't use pppoe :>
[03:14] <Fackamato> it's PnP'ish
[03:14] <Stopa> pls some1 help,when i try to copy files it says, that i dont have rights to copy or something like that, i assume that i have to copy them via console with sudo but what is the command for copying?
[03:14] <POVaddct> Fackamato: adsl providers in germany use PPPoE
[03:14] <Fackamato> Stopa: cp
[03:14] <Fackamato> POVaddct okay, mine (Telia, Sweden) doesn't
[03:15] <Fackamato> anywho, should I just type route -n?
[03:15] <Fackamato> or what?
[03:15] <POVaddct> Fackamato: you should set the gateway manually to the ip address 90.224.32.1
[03:16] <Fackamato> FliesLikeABrick: route add default gw 90.224.32.1 ?
[03:16] <POVaddct> Fackamato: route add default gw 90.224.32.1
[03:16] <Fackamato> tried that doens't work (network unreachable)
[03:16] <Fackamato> that's why I'm so confused ;x
[03:16] <Parabola> whats a good lightweight BT client? UI isnt neccessary?
[03:16] <Parabola> I dont want to use azerueus
[03:16] <Fackamato> wine +utorrent :>
[03:16] <Parabola> yeah i dont want to use wine
[03:16] <Parabola> but yes utorrent is the best :)
[03:16] <Parabola> Fackamato,  is it stable?
[03:17] <Parabola> i thought about doing it, but didnt wanna break anything
[03:17] <Stopa> thx Fackamato, it works
[03:17] <Fackamato> Stopa np
[03:17] <Fackamato> Parabola no it's edgy eft
[03:17] <POVaddct> Fackamato: then dhcp gives you a wrong network. the default gw has to be in the same network as your ip address
[03:17] <Fackamato> Ubuntu 6.10 Beta
[03:17] <Fackamato> that's weird
[03:17] <Parabola> hmm
[03:17] <Fackamato> well, they are
[03:18] <POVaddct> Fackamato: and you are sure windows in just using dhcp to get on the net, not some braindead proprietary protocol?
[03:18] <Fackamato> hehe no it's just plain dhcp
[03:18] <POVaddct> Fackamato: then look at the output of ipconfig again.
[03:18] <Fackamato> it has worked wonders before in linux
[03:18] <Fackamato> yeah what about it?
[03:19] <sioux> hey 902 persons are logged on this channel waooo ubuntu comuty is really very very large
[03:19] <Parabola> so what do you guys recommend for BT?
[03:19] <POVaddct> Fackamato: which ip address is set for your ethernet card?
[03:19] <Fackamato> I use wine + utorrent.. works wonders
[03:19] <Parabola> you've never had a problem?
[03:19] <Fackamato> 90.224.32.220, whilst my GW under windows is 90.224.32.1. my dhcp server is 213.64.105.162
[03:19] <Fackamato> Parabola no
[03:19] <Parabola> i'm thinking of just using the webUI that is out for utorrent, and put it on my srv03 box
[03:20] <Parabola> hm
[03:20] <sioux> is it true that Bill Clinton too spoke about ubuntu?
[03:20] <Parabola> haha
[03:20] <POVaddct> Fackamato: so the dhcp server is in a totally different network? strange...
[03:20] <POVaddct> Fackamato: which netmask is set?
[03:21] <Fackamato> 24bit, 255.255.255.0
[03:21] <POVaddct> Fackamato: hmm
[03:21] <Celeste> hi
[03:21] <Celeste> please tell me how I can find out the LAST 4 times my system has been booted and been shut down
[03:21] <nickspoon> sioux: well yeah, but he meant ubuntu the concept :)
[03:22] <Fackamato> hm
[03:22] <POVaddct> reboot to linux and check if the ip adress given is also in the 90.224.32.0/24 network
[03:22] <sioux> nick but that means also that Bill Clinton knows what's ubuntu is
[03:23] <jtholmes> celeste  /var/log/messages may have them all if they were done recently like in a week or so
[03:23] <mhb> hello ... I wanted to ask if it's possible to use a swap file for hibernating (not just a swap fs)
[03:24] <Fackamato> POVaddct yeah I'll check that out
[03:24] <jtholmes> Celeste: also  /var/log/messages.0  .1  etc
[03:24] <Fackamato> thanks a lot for the help so far!
[03:24] <Fackamato> brb hopefully
[03:24] <POVaddct> Fackamato: yw
[03:24] <sioux> nick of course it couden't be a spot over ubuntu but means a man like bill interested more to girls knows the ubuntu distribution
[03:24] <Celeste> jtholmes, what line do I have to search for?
[03:26] <Parabola> k i have a stupid question
[03:26] <S0me1> Hi everyone
[03:26] <Parabola> I sent some items to trash, i dont seem to have a trashcan
[03:27] <Rizzo> anybody know anything bout gl
[03:27] <jtholmes> Celeste: look for something about  syslog  but also look at the times in the left col
[03:27] <Rizzo> my gl is little jumpy need help
[03:27] <sz90> Parabola, are you using GNOME?
[03:27] <Rizzo> nope
[03:27] <Rizzo> KDE
[03:28] <Parabola> sz90,  yeah i figured it out
[03:28] <Parabola> thanks mate
[03:28] <S0me1> i tried config WPA hex on ubuntu 6.06 but dosnt work with me with Speedtouch wifi, by the way with linksys DSL modem it works fine, any adviec
[03:28] <sz90> Can't you just right click on the kde panel, and add a trash can?
[03:28] <S0me1> sorry advice
[03:28] <hetauma> hi
[03:29] <Parabola> man ubuntu is great
[03:29] <Rizzo> no debian is great if you get PCI X cards working with it
[03:29] <Parabola> lol
[03:29] <hetauma> on a pc with core duo cpu. Do I need to install a x86_64 distro of ubuntu? would I benifit from that? would I have an compatibility issues with various applications?
[03:29] <S0me1> :)
[03:29] <Parabola> its crazy that it took over, and works so well
[03:30] <Rizzo> i have a ATI radeon x600 but im using the vesa drivers  :/
[03:30] <Parabola> Rizzo,  ouch
[03:30] <Parabola> Rizzo,  i'm assuming you've tried installing xorg-drivers-ati ?
[03:30] <strike> hi
[03:30] <strike> I just installed server version of ubuntu, did not give any root password but it is asking me for root password
[03:30] <strike> when I do sudo
[03:30] <strike> is there any default password
[03:30] <vermin> #ubuntu-pl
[03:30] <Parabola> strike type sudo passwd root
[03:31] <Rizzo> no[e ive not
[03:31] <Parabola> and set the new password you want
[03:31] <Parabola> Rizzo,  give it a shot :)
[03:31] <jtholmes> strike: no default
[03:31] <Parabola> Rizzo,  that should be all you need
[03:31] <POVaddct> strike: sudo does not ask for the root password, it asks for your user password
[03:31] <Rizzo> nah its not
[03:31] <Rizzo> couldnt fid package :S
[03:31] <Rizzo> find*
[03:31] <Parabola> are you using ubuntu?
[03:31] <Parabola> oh right my bad
[03:31] <Parabola> Rizzo,  its
[03:31] <Parabola> xorg-drivers-fglrx
[03:32] <Rizzo> haha
[03:32] <Rizzo> im using debina btw
[03:32] <Parabola> ah
[03:32] <Rizzo> with KDE
[03:32] <Parabola> theres a repo that has them
[03:32] <dhq>  i use  Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) i need
[03:32] <Parabola> i installed them on debian before
[03:32] <dhq> drivers for it
[03:33] <Parabola> try kernel-module-fglrx
[03:33] <Parabola> Rizzo,  that is
[03:33] <POVaddct> dhq: you dont. Xorg already has the i810 driver, which is sufficient for i855GM
[03:33] <Rizzo> i can put it cmds til im blue in the face and it just buces back "cannot find package"
[03:33] <jtholmes> strike: boot live cd;  edit  /etc/shadow; remove all chars between first two colons; reboot on hard disk; root should now have no pw;  set root pw  using  passwd root
[03:33] <Rizzo> bounces*
[03:34] <strike> Parabola: it worked
[03:34] <POVaddct> dhq: just configure your Xorg to use the right driver (i810)
[03:34] <dhq> POVaddct: my grafx dont display properly
[03:34] <Parabola> strike,  yep
[03:34] <strike> jtholmes: advice by Parabola worked
[03:34] <dhq> POVaddct: i use the i810 driver only
[03:34] <POVaddct> dhq: in which way?
[03:34] <Parabola> Rizzo,  you need some real repos :P
[03:34] <strike> Parabola: thanks
[03:34] <POVaddct> dhq: i810 driver also need AGP support in the kernel at higher resolutions
[03:34] <dhq> well any 3d photo doesnt show well and movies dont play well
[03:35] <dhq> POVaddct: i am on a laptop
[03:35] <Parabola> k i must run, school time
[03:35] <Parabola> take it easy
[03:35] <Parabola> Rizzo,  there really is a package for you mate
[03:35] <dhq> POVaddct: so help me out with the commands
[03:35] <Parabola> i've used it
[03:35] <Parabola> Rizzo,  you just need to find a repository with "fglrx"
[03:36] <mhb> has somebody experience with hibernating to a swap file?
[03:36] <POVaddct> dhq: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for messages about AGP
[03:36] <jenda> Hello, I need help mounting an external WD Combo hard drive. It used to work perfectly, but now it doesn't. "sudo pmount /dev/sda1 /media/WD\ Combo/" gives "Error: '/' must not occur in label name". What's funny is that it does that even when the drive is off.
[03:36] <POVaddct> dhq: if AGP is not supported for your board, then you're out of luck
[03:37] <shriphani> the more i look at the apple website the more addicted i get to osx
[03:37] <dhq> POVaddct: how do i check it
[03:37] <POVaddct> dhq: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for messages about AGP
[03:37] <Rizzo> im stuck really i am
[03:38] <Rizzo> PCI X with debian and a ATI radeon x600 card wusing vesa  drivers :S
[03:38] <admin_> How do i disable eth0 ipv6
[03:38] <admin_> wel, i mean i want to disble ipv6 on eth0
[03:38] <strike> where can I set deb file download servers for "ubuntu server version" so apt-get works
[03:38] <jrib> !ipv6
[03:38] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:39] <sofus> !mplayer
[03:39] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:39] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:39] <hetauma> !x86_64
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x86_64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <strike> cat I use debian servers for apt-get in ubuntu?
[03:39] <buzzy> hello i have serious trouble with my ubuntu: when i boot it up it stops when i read "accessing kernel" or a such thing...how can i recover my system?
[03:40] <dhq> POVaddct:  Initialized kernel agp heap manager, 55312384
[03:40] <Otacon22> hi all
[03:40] <POVaddct> dhq: looks like agp is supported
[03:40] <dhq> POVaddct: so now
[03:40] <Otacon22> I need to add more working space in my ubuntu with xgl
[03:41] <Otacon22> how can i do it?
[03:41] <buzzy> hello i have serious trouble with my ubuntu: when i boot it up it stops when i read "accessing kernel" or a such thing...how can i recover my system?
[03:43] <POVaddct> dhq: dont know
[03:43] <dhq> POVaddct: how do i check which driver is in use
[03:44] <sofus> any one know where i can find a mplayer deb?
[03:44] <variant> sofus: apt-get install mplayer
[03:44] <bkw> Does ubuntu use kudzu to automount usb sticks?
[03:44] <sofus> it dosent work any more
[03:45] <POVaddct> dhq: many lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log beginning with I810
[03:46] <cwoodall> hello
[03:48] <Rizzo> i really need help sorting out gl drivers for the ati radeon x600 for debian 2.4
[03:49] <MKR> :D
[03:49] <variant> Rizzo: wrong channel
[03:49] <variant> Rizzo: try #debian
[03:49] <Rizzo> i have
[03:50] <Rizzo> get no replys
[03:50] <variant> patience
[03:50] <variant> you will get less help here
[03:51] <jenda> Hello, I need help mounting an external WD Combo hard drive. It used to work perfectly, but now it doesn't. "sudo pmount /dev/sda1 /media/WD\ Combo/" gives "Error: '/' must not occur in label name". What's funny is that it does that even when the drive is off.
[03:51] <MKR> Is that \ after WD intentional?
[03:53] <froud> Anyone see some instructions on how to configure the AMP part of LAMP on an exiting Ubuntu Server?
[03:53] <froud> s/exiting/existing
[03:54] <Bassetts> how can i get my shared fat32 partition to show up in the "Computer" link in the places menu, it is already mounted in /media/sda8?
[03:56] <james__> hello?
[03:56] <variant> Bassetts: good question
[03:56] <james__> i've got a quick question about getting ndiswrapper to work under edgy
[03:56] <james__> where can I get working debs for the 1.8 version?
[03:56] <variant> james__: ubuntu+1
[03:56] <Bassetts>  i know variant =D
[03:56] <variant> james__: #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <Bassetts> i need a good answer
[03:57] <james__> the ones on the edgy beta CD are broken
[03:57] <variant> james__: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:57] <james__> i see, thatnks
[03:57] <james__> :)
[03:57] <variant> yw
[03:57] <variant> :)
[04:01] <net> hi all
[04:02] <variant> hi net
[04:02] <woekele> hiya, my console in Edgy gives me "out of range" on my monitor. X works fine. I tried setting vga= to all supported values (0f00 - 0f07) and it didnt fix it. Im on a LCD monitor which supports 75Hz refresh at max. I guess the refresh of the console is set too high? How to fix?
[04:03] <variant> woekele: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:03] <woekele> sorry
[04:03] <variant> np
[04:03] <net> i have teamspeak but i can't unmute speakers and microphone, have you got a solution ?
[04:04] <variant> net: not in this channel, ask on the teamspeak forums or whatever
[04:05] <net> yes but maybe someone on this channel use TS with ubuntu ?
[04:05] <net> else i will leave ;-)
[04:05] <woekele> I do, it worked fine :x
[04:06] <variant> net: maybe they do, but its still not the place to ask
[04:06] <LjL> net: teamspeak isn't an Ubuntu package, so that's relatively unlikely. but if someone does use it and knows about your problem, i think that's on-topic enough for this channel.
[04:08] <Bassetts> hi, i have a partition in /media/sda8 that is 133.88GB and it is not mounting properly, how can i get it to mount right on boot?
[04:08] <ataxic> how do I reset Monodevlop layout back to original layout just after install, default layout in the Menu bar gives me the layout I modified. Is there some command line command I could do? I dont seem to have a .folder in home
[04:08] <apokryphos> Bassetts: 'not mounting properly' is not very descriptive
[04:09] <variant> Bassetts: add it to /etc/fstab
[04:09] <sofus> any one what i can use to browse windows computers ?
[04:09] <Viper550> Is anyone using Edgy?
[04:09] <variant> sofus: samba + nautilus
[04:09] <Ych_> !nfs
[04:09] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:09] <net> so woekele have you got a place to send me in order to resolve my prob ?
[04:09] <Bassetts> variant, it is in there
[04:09] <Bassetts> apokryphos, i dont know whats up
[04:09] <variant> Ych_: nfs doesnt work with windows
[04:09] <sofus> hmm can i browse in rox too?
[04:09] <apokryphos> Bassetts: well tell us what's happening
[04:09] <variant> sofus: if it supports it
[04:09] <FOAD> Hi.
[04:10] <FOAD> I've got 2 mp3-players, an iRiver H340 and now also a new iPod nano.  Ubuntu understands the iRiver fine and gives me a nice icon on the desktop and all, but the same isn't true for the nano.  It is somewhat recognized (I can find it back in dmesg and mount it by hand) but I'd like to show up on the desktop too.  Can anyone help?
[04:10] <Ych_> variant, who says i have windows?
[04:10] <woekele> net, no, I dunno about your prob. As I said: it worked fine for me :)
[04:10] <variant> Ych_: sorry, i thought you were replying to the question about windows shares
[04:10] <Ych_> variant, nope, im just checking where i add allowed ip addresses
[04:10] <Ych_> can never remember that kind of stuff
[04:10] <net> ok
[04:11] <net> ;-)
[04:11] <net> so i leave the channel bye
[04:12] <compwiz> hello
[04:12] <Spitfireleet> wine does not appear on the applications list
[04:13] <compwiz> how do i run my screen at 1280x800
[04:13] <kemik> how to see which users on a system are sudoers ?
[04:13] <kemik> compwiz: run the x-config or hack xorg.conf file ?
[04:13] <kemik> !resolution
[04:13] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:14] <woekele> variant, you dont have any idea about my question? Noone is responding in ubuntu + 1. And I dont think its edgy specific :o
[04:14] <compwiz> it wont let me pick any thing higher then 1024x768
[04:14] <VoX> !nvidia
[04:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:14] <compwiz> intel
[04:14] <compwiz> card
[04:14] <variant> woekele: what was it?
[04:15] <woekele> compwiz, check the link that was provided: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:15] <woekele> variant, it was about the refreshrate of the console
[04:15] <compwiz> media accelerater 900
[04:15] <woekele> its too high for my screen I think :S
[04:15] <variant> dont know sorry
[04:15] <woekele> ok
[04:16] <woekele> np :p
[04:16] <Bassetts> can someone help me with fstab please
[04:17] <Bassetts> apokryphos, my 133.88GB partition is showing up as 7GB
[04:18] <wetduck> What about if I am having my visudo permision ddenied? What I have to do?
[04:18] <xt9876> hello
[04:18] <dm> hi..
[04:19] <H|ppy> bye
[04:19] <shriphani> wetduck, sudo visudo
[04:19] <shriphani> visudo is just to edit /etc/sudoers so you need to do it as root
[04:20] <wetduck> shriphani, yeah I tryed that but nothing happens.
[04:20] <shriphani> hmm
[04:21] <we2by> http://jinxi.cinaq.net/ my first guide about ubuntu.
[04:21] <shriphani> try sudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[04:21] <wetduck> shriphani, besides I did sudo -s
[04:21] <H|ppy> i have a question if anyone can help me, i was wondering if i can connect to any network in irc on ubuntu
[04:21] <frogzoo> H|ppy: any you like
[04:22] <shriphani> hmm wetduck did you delete by mistake ?
[04:22] <wetduck> shriphani, no, nothing again
[04:22] <H|ppy> ty frog
[04:22] <shriphani> umm
[04:22] <wetduck> shriphani, delete what?
[04:22] <shriphani> sudo access for yerself
[04:22] <shriphani> that could be trouble
[04:23] <wetduck> shriphani, no consiously because I wouldnt know how.
[04:23] <shriphani> umm do you have sudo access ?
[04:24] <wetduck> shriphani, not really. I cannot even change my clock time :o(
[04:24] <H|ppy> :)
[04:24] <shriphani> umm
[04:24] <shriphani> wetduck can you at least cat /etc/sudoers ?
[04:24] <wetduck> shriphani, let me check
[04:25] <shriphani> it should say things like can be edited by root alone
[04:25] <wetduck> shriphani, nope, permission denied.
[04:25] <shriphani> sudo cat /etc/sudoers ?
[04:25] <scorp007> hi, im using dapper at the moment, is it ok if i downgrade my xorg from 7 to 6.8.x?
[04:25] <scorp007> it seems my video card drivers dont like 7
[04:25] <scorp007> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 6.8.x.y with x.y >= 99.8
[04:25] <skar> hi all, is easyubuntu ok to install codecs, flash, java, mplayer etc?
[04:25] <scorp007> (II) fglrx(0): detected X.org 7.0.0.0
[04:26] <skar> or manual install the way to go?
[04:26] <wetduck> shriphani, with sudo cat /... nothing happens
[04:26] <nickspoon> skar: I wouldn't recommend using easyubuntu, but some people swear by it.
[04:26] <shriphani> wetduck, it doesnt ask for password ?
[04:26] <wetduck> shriphani, nothing happens when I use sudo, just a new line.
[04:26] <Bassetts> whats the best way to repartition, gparted or using acronis?
[04:26] <wetduck> shriphani, well I did sudo -su, sudo -s today morning
[04:26] <shriphani> hmmm
[04:27] <nickspoon> skar: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper contains everything you'll need to know.
[04:27] <frogzoo> Bassetts: fdisk of course
[04:27] <wetduck> shriphani, is there a way to unsudo except restarting the comnp?
[04:28] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys how can i install dvd::rip
[04:28] <shriphani> unsudo ?
[04:28] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !dvd::rip
[04:28] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[04:28] <refnumzx> we have an hp ml350 g4 which shows a blank screen after detecting the sata disks, this is using the iso server build
[04:29] <wetduck> shriphani, yeah turn sudo off.
[04:29] <refnumzx> any idea  how i can get it to move foward with the install?
[04:29] <shriphani> wait turn sudo off ?
[04:29] <shriphani> you type sudo and you get a new line with a prompt ?
[04:30] <wetduck> shriphani, I think with sudo -s I turned sudo avaiable always, I mean not for a determined period as sudo normaly does. I just to cut off this time and stablish sudo as off.
[04:30] <wetduck> shriphani, yes, I type sudo and all tyhat happebns is a new line with prompt.
[04:31] <MetaMorfoziS> !ipod
[04:31] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[04:31] <shriphani> ou type sudo with nothing ?
[04:31] <gilesw_> my ipod's broken
[04:31] <gilesw_> again
[04:31] <wetduck> shriphani, yes, just sudo. Nothing
[04:31] <gilesw_> last hd based portable device i'm ever buying
[04:31] <shriphani> wetduck, type a command
[04:31] <shriphani> like network-admin
[04:31] <gilesw_> 8gig nano probably next
[04:32] <shriphani> wetduck, did anything happen ?
[04:32] <Stevo> who knows anything about Trusted Computing?
[04:33] <npster> How to burn a .iso in Ubuntu?
[04:33] <Kyral> Stevo: Its evil incarnate?
[04:33] <Kyral> npster: Install GnomeBaker or K3b
[04:33] <shriphani> npster, rt. click and Write To Diskk
[04:33] <Kyral> or that....
[04:33] <npster> It will write it as an ISO?
[04:33] <shriphani> npster, yes
[04:33] <Stevo> kyral> lol  i actually have been coming to that conclusion.  i just meant, knowing something a little deeper.
[04:33] <npster> ok
[04:33] <jman8888> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ <--Did anyone else try it
[04:34] <jman8888> It said i should use fedora :p
[04:34] <shriphani> jman8888, yes
[04:34] <GreySim> Does anyone of if libnotify notifications are logged anywhere, or where a better place to ask would be?
[04:34] <GreySim> -of +know
[04:34] <wetduck> shriphani, it asked for a password and It says the password I gave is uncorrect. Then I retryed and it didnt gave me a new oportunitie, just same message.
[04:34] <jman8888> shriphani, It said it would have said ubuntu but my pc is to old.
[04:34] <mikhail^> I encounter a slight weirdness with Ubuntu LTS running on a Transmeta Crusoe T5600 (600Mhz) -- when it starts up, it sets the CPU scaling to the lowest level, and I have to bring it up still using cpufreq-selector
[04:34] <jman8888> shriphani, But i use gnome kde and xfce perfectly with ubuntu
[04:34] <npster> Write to: DVD_RW or File Image ???
[04:34] <shriphani> npster, ?
[04:35] <FOAD> That iPod info doesn't help me at all, it assumes that the 'Pod _does_ show up on the desktop.
[04:35] <shriphani> just right click on the iso
[04:35] <mikhail^> which package is responsible for controlling the behavior of cpufreq-selector, and how do I set it to default to the highest setting?
[04:35] <shriphani> and select Write To Disk
[04:35] <shriphani> the device should be known to you
[04:35] <npster> What shoud i use my DVD_RW drive or that File Image?
[04:35] <npster> oh, ok
[04:35] <shriphani> DVD_RW of course
[04:36] <Blinker_> can you chown a fat partition and still rw under windows?
[04:36] <shriphani> wetduck, i ran into a problem like that during hoary's time
[04:37] <shriphani>  was it warty
[04:37] <shriphani> wetduck, try rebooting once and then visudo
[04:37] <wetduck> shriphani, did I tell you I installed an oem model at first?
[04:37] <shriphani> umm
[04:37] <npster> What is OEM?
[04:38] <semPid> how can i install a wireless card ?
[04:38] <Blinker_> original equipment manufacturer
[04:38] <wetduck> shriphani and I remeber to have received a very strange system comment after trying my fist sudo, something about been reposted to Ubuntu...
[04:39] <refnumzx> we have an hp ml350 g4 which shows a blank screen after detecting the sata disks, this is using the iso server build
[04:39] <shriphani> umm
[04:39] <Kyral> npster: if you have ordered something from Newegg.com and its come with JUST the part (as opposed to like the box and instructions) thats an example of OEM
[04:39] <npster> ok
[04:39] <refnumzx> the installer locks up after detecting disk and all other hardware
[04:39] <npster> i saw it
[04:39] <tristanmike> Hi, I have a strange issue with Skype I was hoping someone could help me understand and sort out or point me in the right direction.  Basically, on first boot up, my USB mic doesn't work and all sound gets directed though my main speakers even all my settings in Skype say "USB Logitech Headset" for answering and ringing. I have to logout/login then everything works fine. This is annoying as once I start working, then realize it doesn't
[04:39] <tristanmike>  work, I have to close all aplications and logout/login. any help would be appreciated
[04:39] <shriphani> Kyral, does the box give sudo to you upon an oem installation ?
[04:39] <mpech> re
[04:40] <wetduck> npster, it's a oem user version where you buy the computer with Ubuntu pre-installed and then when you get home you launch the fist user. Very useful to stores with want to have Ubuntu as a pre-installed system.
[04:40] <Kyral> shriphani: oh you meant Ubuntu's OEM thing
[04:40] <Kyral> lol
[04:40] <mpech> thinkpad X22 hangs at 2.6.15.27
[04:40] <npster> OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK I GOT WHAT OEM MEANS !!!!
[04:40] <LjL> !caps
[04:40] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:40] <mpech> 2.6.15.23 ok
[04:40] <wetduck> Kyral, yes in fact there is an issue about hardware as well.
[04:41] <mpech> sometimes it hangs except mouse or keyboard
[04:41] <shriphani> like the expert mode installation wont give you sudo access (the breezy installer)
[04:41] <wetduck> I think Ubuntu miss a #root access besides sudo.
[04:41] <Spitfireleet> where can i find the executeable files where programs are installed?
[04:41] <stu_> ive installed compiz, but how do I get my buttons and windows back to be usable, when I load it I cant do anything, I need a window manager or something
[04:42] <shriphani> Spitfireleet, echo $PATH
[04:42] <refnumzx> can anyone help with this ubuntu server install? locks up after detecting disks and all other hardware
[04:42] <Kyral> stu_: gnome-window-decorator &
[04:42] <leandro> ls
[04:42] <wetduck> shriphani, thank you very much for your help. I will be trying some more "things" arround here.
[04:42] <leandro> alguma brasileira
[04:43] <stu_> Kyral: is that in universe?
[04:43] <semPid> i've configured wireless connetion through Networking but it's not workin
[04:43] <phanter> hi there. I need to remove vmware-player (since it is blocking my dpkg asking for a reinstall that always fails). I tried: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq vmware-player
[04:43] <Kyral> stu_: Hell if I know..I use Arch now (I find it amazing that I am able to help as much as I can here)
[04:43] <phanter> this does not work, what do I do wrong?
[04:43] <semPid> should i install the windowsXP drivers through ndiaswrapper ?
[04:44] <Kyral> semPid: It could be the range on the connection
[04:44] <Kyral> semPid: You can be connected but if the signal is weak then nothing is gonna happen
[04:44] <semPid> Kyral the signal is enough i think
[04:44] <Kyral> semPid: *Shrug* WLANs are a bitch
[04:44] <semPid> how can i check that in linux ?
[04:44] <stu_> iwconfig semPid
[04:45] <stu_> I think
[04:45] <semPid> i've tested it @ win
[04:45] <Ciaus> semPid, ifconfig
[04:45] <semPid> and it has a median of 60%
[04:45] <semPid> ok
[04:45] <Kyral> semPid: or sudo iwlist <interface> scanning (this displays a list of all WLANs in range)
[04:46] <NOOBian> hi all
[04:46] <semPid> well it has a lot of stuff when i type in ifconfig
[04:46] <Spitfireleet> shriphani: do i just add in echo $PATH where path is the name of the app?
[04:46] <semPid> TX errors: 40
[04:47] <variant> semPid: iwconfig will list the link strength
[04:47] <Kyral> This is why I go with a landline whenever possible
[04:48] <semPid> Signal level: -64 dBm
[04:48] <semPid> Kyral its enough ?
[04:48] <Kyral> semPid: Hell if I know
[04:48] <semPid> lol
[04:48] <Kyral> semPid: I look at QUALITY
[04:48] <semPid> kay
[04:49] <NOOBian> can anybody help me about nfs config files (hosts.deny hosts.allow)
[04:49] <shriphani> Spitfireleet, nope
[04:49] <tristanmike> Hi, I have a strange issue with Skype I was hoping someone could help me understand and sort out or point me in the right direction.  Basically, on first boot up, my USB mic doesn't work and all sound gets directed though my main speakers even all my settings in Skype say "USB Logitech Headset" for answering and ringing. I have to logout/login then everything works fine. This is annoying as once I start working, then realize it doesn't
[04:49] <tristanmike>  work, I have to close all aplications and logout/login. any help would be appreciated
[04:49] <sioux> what's berly
[04:49] <semPid> Quality 71/70
[04:49] <skar> nickspoon: thanks i'll try the wiki one for now :)
[04:50] <shriphani> PATH is an environment variable to tell you from which dirs it gets the commands
[04:50] <shriphani> so just type echo $PATH
[04:50] <shriphani> and search in each dir
[04:51] <yakumo> is ther any apt install in GnomeBoyAdvance
[04:52] <GaiaX11> I have a notebook with a win98 that I'd like to access the net through my ubuntu. So How do I set up the IPs numbers in my ubuntu and in the notebook?
[04:53] <yakumo> how to know which version of gtk im using?
[04:53] <StAfZe6> good
[04:53] <semPid> i've configured wireless connection through Networking but it's not workin
[04:54] <semPid> it seems to be connected but "transmission errors" are occuring
[04:55] <AngryElf> guys, i put 386 on my amd64 with the intention of upgrading to amd64-k8 after the install -- anyways, now -- apt-get install linux-amd64-k8-smp says it doesn't exist, any ideas?
[04:55] <Mammuth> hi
[04:55] <NOOBian> can anybody help me about nfs config files (hosts.deny hosts.allow)
[04:55] <Mammuth> can anyone help me by configuring iptables? i have to send out one packet to multiple destination, without broadcast.
[04:56] <refnumzx> i am trying to install the server version of ubuntu dapper on an hp ml350 g4 for the instaler locks up after it detects disks and all other hardware, ideas?
[04:56] <yakumo> hello
[04:57] <Rasta> !mp3
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <Mammuth> bye
[04:59] <refnumzx> i am trying to install the server version of ubuntu dapper on an hp ml350 g4 for the instaler locks up after it detects disks and all other hardware, ideas?
[04:59] <yakumo> how will i know what version of gtk im using
[04:59] <NOOBian> bye all
[05:02] <aka> hello
[05:02] <idefix> t
[05:03] <yakumo> how will i know what version of gtk im using?
[05:04] <Samuel> #ubuntu-it
[05:04] <LjL> Samuel: type "/join #ubuntu-it" if you want to join that channel
[05:05] <geekdom> Hey, I am using Xubuntu on a old toshiba 320CDT laptop and it only uses the inner part of the screen and during the install when I get to "select your language", I can not get to the bottom of the page to click "ok'.
[05:05] <LjL> yakumo: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
[05:05] <Jof> hy
[05:05] <LjL> yakumo: note, though, that you might have both gtk2 and gtk1 installed at the same time, since gtk2 is not backwards compatible
[05:05] <semPid> i've configured wireless connection through Networking but it's not workin; it seems to be connected but "transmission errors" are occuring
[05:06] <yakumo> thnks
[05:06] <hkais> hello
[05:06] <hkais> anyone here who uses a prism2 card?
[05:06] <Jof> i have a problem with open irc links in firefox with xchat
[05:07] <Jof> xchat opens, but it does not automatically connect
[05:09] <josh_> question for anyone pretty familiar with security and ssh
[05:09] <josh_> is there a way to set the number of tries for ssh before an ip gets timeed out / blocked?
[05:09] <josh_> or do i have to script my own?
[05:10] <POVaddct> josh_: you may take a look at fail2ban
[05:10] <POVaddct> josh_: apt-cache show fail2ban
[05:11] <LjL> josh_: they're saying on #kubuntu that you might want to have a look at the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file
[05:11] <josh_> if i dont currently use a firewall (iptables but its unconfigured) will it start with a block all setup?
[05:12] <yakumo> anyone know about gnomeboyadvance
[05:12] <t> hello
[05:12] <t> i have an answer
[05:12] <LjL> T: state that, i'll see if i can find the right question
[05:13] <josh_> lol LjL
[05:13] <t> has ubuntu a 'standard'  root psw?
[05:13] <POVaddct> josh_: if the iptables kernel modules are just loaded, nothing gets blocked
[05:13] <LjL> !tell t about root
[05:13] <akonkwa> Hi everyone
[05:13] <LjL> t: no
[05:13] <jrib> t: that was a question, not an answer :)
[05:13] <t> i can't login as root
[05:13] <josh_> understandable... im curious about the fail2ban.... it says it adds entries to my firewall
[05:13] <crashd> is there any problems booting ubuntu off of a sata drive?
[05:13] <crashd> im just about to buy one, and wanna make sure ;)
[05:13] <jrib> t: ubotu sent you some info in a private message, take a look
[05:13] <josh_> t... root is disabled by default
[05:14] <akonkwa> Does anyone know how I can get better microphone volume? (I'm using breezy, and I've already tried everything from the volume panel)
[05:14] <Kubu> is there any way to update DAPPER to EDGY?
[05:14] <josh_> you have to enable it by setting a password
[05:14] <jrib> Kubu: yes
[05:14] <Kubu> how?
[05:14] <t> dapper
[05:14] <minerale> How can I increase the resolution of the frame buffer ?
[05:14] <jrib> Kubu: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[05:14] <POVaddct> josh_: it add iptables rules. if there are none before, it should be no problem.
[05:14] <Jof> nobody else who has problems with open irc links in firefox?
[05:14] <josh_> Kubu: yeah when they release it you do a dist-upgrade... or download all the packages now and dpkg them
[05:14] <Jof> in xchat
[05:14] <crashd> anyone, any problems with sata+ubuntu booting?
[05:14] <POVaddct> josh_: if i understand fail2ban correctly, it inserts blocking rules
[05:15] <LjL> t: you can use the command "sudo" to do things that need root. but do read that help page, to understand what it's all about
[05:15] <josh_> thats what i was thinking
[05:15] <Jof> sata should be no problem
[05:15] <stu_> I need to install cgwd, for compwiz - any one know the package is called I cant find anything when I search
[05:15] <semPid> i've configured wireless connection through Networking but it's not workin
[05:15] <josh_> i was just sure it it would mess with the unblocked stuff...
[05:15] <POVaddct> josh_: and removes them after a certain time
[05:15] <josh_> because im at work now and i dont want to get kicked and have to wait 9 more hours to get home and fix it
[05:15] <akonkwa> Does anyone know how I can get better microphone volume? (I'm using breezy, and I've already tried everything from the volume panel)
[05:16] <fl1> from cmdline how can y found out my display number?
[05:17] <POVaddct> josh_: maybe fail2ban has a test mode where the rules are not really inserted
[05:17] <POVaddct> josh_: i haven't used fail2ban yet, so i can't tell
[05:17] <josh_> me either. thanks though
[05:24] <mikeconcepts> To all, my homepage has helpfull Ubuntu favorites I've gathered over time. Look on the left side for "Ubuntu Links"
[05:25] <mikeconcepts> http://mmcdaniel6.googlepages.com
[05:26] <brosnan> Jof: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[05:27] <Asymmetry> i love being in the military, but you know, sometimes, they say the stupidest crap
[05:27] <hkais> need help with prism2 and hostap, anyone here who can help?
[05:27] <Asymmetry> "we're going to force you to get a flu shot so that you don't get sick"
[05:27] <Asymmetry> well, every time i get a flu shot, i effin' get sick, so where's the prevention, here?
[05:28] <deep__> How can i check discusage on my discs?
[05:28] <kingace1> Hi, everytime a try to boot from the livecd i get a Failed to start X error... I've tried with Dapper and Edgy and gotten the same problem.. any thoughts?
[05:28] <Jof> thx brosnan
[05:28] <davin> Hi, Im on the Live CD but I cant seem to mount my /dev/sda1 (Ubuntu HDD Partition)
[05:29] <Jof> but i did that already
[05:29] <Jof> Xhcat opens when i click at the link, but it does not connect to the server and chan
[05:29] <deep__> davin: sda1, isnt that usb-discs and mp3-players?
[05:29] <Asymmetry> deep__, and SATA drives
[05:29] <davin> When I try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1' it gives me 'mount: mount point /media/sda1 does not exist.'
[05:29] <deep__> Asymmetry: aaaah. :)
[05:29] <davin> deep__: no, sda is scsi disks
[05:29] <Asymmetry> davin, mkdir /media/sda1
[05:30] <davin> Asymmetry: ah, stupid me
[05:30] <Asymmetry> davin, i run a machine with 3 sata drives. trust me, sd* is sata, too. :)
[05:30] <variant> deep__: and scsi
[05:30] <Jof> and you should: sudo mount -t auto .....
[05:30] <variant> Asymmetry: and scsi
[05:30] <McDopey> where can i know the software replacement for photoshop and illustrator?
[05:30] <Asymmetry> variant, thus the usage of the word 'too', thanks for playing
[05:30] <variant> Asymmetry: huh?
[05:31] <sexcopter8000> hi, i'm trying to install maple10 from cd and i get this, any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25308/
[05:31] <davin> Asymmetry: yep I know :-)
[05:31] <Asymmetry> variant, i said 'too'. that means i acknowledge that it's scsi, and i was saying sata as well.
[05:31] <sexcopter8000> perhaps i should install libc-dev?
[05:31] <variant> McDopey: i have no idea about illustrator but the closest you get to photoshop is gimp although it is not as powerfull and a lot of people find the interface to unusable
[05:32] <variant> Asymmetry: ah, except that you said sata both times i think..
[05:32] <variant> :)
[05:32] <kingace1> also Pixel (just saw it on Digg)
[05:32] <kingace1> theres some new beta of it out
[05:32] <LjL> variant, McDopey: the KDE application Krita probably has an interface that feels closer to Photoshop... but it's currently lacking most of Photoshop's *and* the GIMP's features
[05:33] <variant> McDopey: whatever that program is its looking for certain libs
[05:33] <burepe> how do I add xchat to start up?
[05:33] <kingace1> what would cause X to fail to start off the live cd?
[05:33] <sexcopter8000> burepe: System -> Prefs -> Sessions
[05:34] <variant> kingace1: many things.. could be a dogey cd
[05:34] <variant> kingace1: but you have tried more than one?
[05:34] <kingace1> yes.. about a thousand times
[05:34] <kingace1> with dapper and edgy
[05:34] <variant> kingace1: or some weird quirk in your hardware
[05:34] <kingace1> i've heard it doesn't like nforce
[05:34] <variant> kingace1: any other distros work?
[05:35] <variant> kingace1: ah, yeah nforce motherboards are crap
[05:35] <Asymmetry> in other news, what's the package for ndiswrapper?
[05:35] <variant> Asymmetry: in other news?
[05:35] <kingace1> variant: but does it not work on any of them?
[05:35] <variant> kingace1: yeah, there are reverse enginered drivers for nforce..
[05:35] <burepe> sexcopter8000, thanks
[05:35] <keescook> heh.  Hello Kitty Ubuntu: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/40250056/
[05:35] <Asymmetry> variant, uhhh... i run ubuntu/fedora/suse/mandriva/etc just fine off of an nforce mobo
[05:36] <variant> kingace1: give one of the other live cd's a shot.. slax.org has a small graphical and modern live cd
[05:36] <variant> Asymmetry: congrats, they still suck
[05:36] <Asymmetry> variant, maybe for those who dont know what theyre doing
[05:36] <kingace1> actually i just ran across something that suggesting switching to the vesa driver.. could someone give me the steps to do that from the command line?
[05:36] <kingace1> or a link
[05:36] <Asymmetry> ive had nothing but awesomeness with them - hence my using them
[05:36] <variant> Asymmetry: like kingace1 ?
[05:36] <Asymmetry> variant, perhaps
[05:36] <naknomik> Is there a pseudo package I can install so I get all packages pulled in for compiling kernel modules?
[05:36] <Asymmetry> variant, doesnt mean they suck, though
[05:37] <variant> kingace1: does it leave you with a command prompt?
[05:37] <kingace1> yeah I can get back to it
[05:37] <dave-5B> hey does anyone know how to run a program in a specific workspace from the command line?
[05:37] <kingace1> but remember im still on the livecd
[05:37] <Asymmetry> if a piece of hardware doesnt work in a certain situation, the goal is to figure out why, not spaz out and go omfg this sux!!1!
[05:37] <naknomik> What packages do I need to install to be able to compile kernel modules?
[05:38] <naknomik> Has anybody tried installing Ubuntu under Microsoft Virtual Server?
[05:38] <sureshot> ok i need to ask if you can run beryl with out xgl on an ati x600 se card
[05:38] <variant> kingace1: cool, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and chang ethe driver line to vesa (i think thats the right driver name)
[05:38] <nickspoon> sureshot: you could use AIGLX...
[05:38] <variant> Asymmetry: whats your point?
[05:38] <sureshot> ok nickspoon never herd of that
[05:39] <sureshot> what is it
[05:39] <kingace1> ok im sorry, im a linux newbie, whats the command to edit a file?
[05:39] <nickspoon> sureshot: it's like XGL, except different.
[05:39] <variant> kingace1: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:39] <nickspoon> why can't you use XGL anyway?
[05:39] <kingace1> thanks
[05:39] <sureshot> ware can i read about
[05:39] <Asymmetry> variant, that you dont show a whole lot of intelligence when dealing with problems. you prefer to blame the hardware.
[05:39] <kingace1> OK ill be back in a sec once ive tried it out
[05:39] <variant> Asymmetry: .. lol ok
[05:40] <sureshot> i can but it is slow  i dont underst i have 2gh computer with a gig of mem
[05:40] <kingace1> Asymmetry: I've been in this chatroom for like 5 minutes. u've said a whole lot but no contributed anything
[05:40] <kingace1> varient at least has contributed
[05:40] <variant> thnx :P
[05:40] <Asymmetry> kingace1, your five minutes truly is impressive, squire. go back to your issues, now.
[05:40] <nickspoon> sureshot: odd. runs perfectly fine here :P
[05:40] <kingace1> indeed
[05:41] <sureshot> it runs ok but it seems to drag it takes time to go from screen to screen
[05:42] <atoponce> is there a project to create a 50MB ubuntu netinst, similar to debian?
[05:42] <nickspoon> sureshot: http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/
[05:43] <variant> kingace1: the driver is definately vesa, after that run /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:43] <gtrplr> hello, I was looking for help with apt. I want to remove a package AND all of its dependancies. COuld someone help me with the command ?
[05:43] <atoponce> http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
[05:43] <sureshot> nickspoon you are a gentleman thanks a lot
[05:43] <LjL> gtrplr: can't do that (assuming you mean the *unused* dependencies of it)
[05:43] <LjL> gtrplr: "debfoster" or "orphaner" might help you a bit, though
[05:43] <atoponce> gtrplr: if you installed the software with apt-get, you'll have to remove them each by hand
[05:43] <atoponce> gtrplr: next time, use aptitude
[05:43] <dave-5B> hey, does anyone know hoe to make a program run i a certain workspace from a conslole?
[05:43] <gtrplr> like removing gnome and all of its libs
[05:44] <LjL> gtrplr: if you use "aptitude" rather than "apt-get" to install stuff in the future, though, you'll be able to do that automatically
[05:44] <LjL> gtrplr: for gnome, i suggest removing libgnome. most of the stuff will go away
[05:44] <gtrplr> ah
[05:44] <atoponce> aptitude > apt-get
[05:44] <gtrplr> thank you
[05:45] <atoponce> anyone know of on ubuntu 50MB netinst that i can put on a business card cd?
[05:45] <atoponce> or how to set one up?
[05:45] <variant> gtrplr: you can do it with apt-get remove --auto-remove packagename
[05:46] <variant> gtrplr: I am not sure what hte concequences will be though as i have never tried it. be carefull to read what it says before going ahead
[05:46] <LjL> variant: only if he's using Edgy, possibly... Dapper's apt-get definitely doesn't have an "--auto-remove" option
[05:46] <variant> LjL: it doesnt?
[05:46] <hc> hey
[05:47] <hc> how can i change the keyboard-layout in Ubuntu 6.06 Server?
[05:47] <naknomik> Is there a pseudo package I can install so I get all packages pulled in for compiling kernel modules?
[05:47] <hkais> need help with the prism2 and hostap, anyone here?
[05:47] <LjL> variant: well, i don't see it in the man, and never heard about it. i did hear that Edgy is going to have automatic deps  removal, on the other hand
[05:47] <variant> LjL: works here (yes i am using edgy)
[05:47] <LjL> variant: well then i really think it's a new edgy feature (and certainly a useful one)
[05:47] <variant> LjL: I just assumed it was in dapper.. I only started using ubuntu a few weeks ago (long term gentoo user)
[05:47] <variant> LjL: indeed
[05:48] <stu_> !paste
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:48] <variant> ubuntu rocks anyway :)
[05:48] <LjL> variant: aptitude always had that feature, but it only worked if you used aptitude to install in the first place... so no GUI installers, can't use the built-in automatic updaters, etc... besides that most people just don't know about aptitude, and when we tell them, it's too late ;)
[05:48] <saite_> good day
[05:49] <stu_> could someone look at this please, trying to instakk kiba-dock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25309/
[05:49] <variant> LjL: cool
[05:49] <hc> how can i change the keyboard-layout in Ubuntu 6.06 Server?
[05:49] <variant> hc: heard you hte first time :)
[05:50] <gtrplr> brb
[05:50] <gtrplr> thanks also for the help
[05:51] <naknomik> What packages do I need to install to be able to compile kernel modules?
[05:51] <variant> hc: you got a headless machine you want to change the layout on?
[05:52] <hc> variant: i just want to change the layout :)
[05:52] <matahari> hi
[05:52] <variant> hc: in command line or graphical desktop?
[05:52] <matahari> does anyone of you have parallels workstation on ubuntu up and running?
[05:52] <hc> variant: command-line. like i said, server install :)
[05:52] <variant> hc: thats why i asked if it was headless
[05:52] <hc> ah.
[05:53] <hc> well, i didn't understand the headless-part :p
[05:53] <variant> hc: a disturbing number of people here use headless systems and administer them with vnc lol
[05:53] <hc> variant: :p
[05:53] <hc> ssh <3
[05:54] <Arrick> hey jrib you know anything about nxserver?
[05:54] <hc> ffs, i have to use the cd to install openssh-server
[05:54] <hc> stupid shit :)
[05:54] <stu_> could someone look at this please, trying to instakk kiba-dock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25309/
[05:55] <collin> when I dual booted my laptop, i lost my instant dvd multimedia start up, can I fix that
[05:55] <lupine_85> hc: comment out the cdrom line in sources.list
[05:55] <lupine_85> et voila, problem solved
[05:55] <variant> hc: I'm just looking to see for you, its easy in gentoo but totaly different in ubuntu !
[05:55] <LjL> stu_: i dunno... i suppose you do have the gtk -dev packages installed?
[05:56] <sureshot> i have xgl loaded will that interfear with aiglx
[05:56] <stu_> I installed everythin the guide told me to
[05:56] <LjL> stu_: can you give me a link to the tarball?
[05:57] <collin> I have a phoenix bios on my toshiba laptop, I can't get change the screen brightness, please help
[05:57] <variant> sureshot: it will be a bit of work as they are two seperate X servers so you will have to set them up seperately and configure gdm to know which to launch depending on what you want
[05:57] <variant> collin: so do i, i have researchd this problem for many years! it will require a bit of asl programming to fix it
[05:58] <voLvo> LjL, after installing nx on ubuntu, there is no SERVER option for NX, only I can see the client option and session manager option
[05:59] <LjL> voLvo: never used NX
[05:59] <sureshot> variant thanks i just needed to know if i needed to remove anything
[05:59] <voLvo> ok LjL, anyone using NX here ?
[05:59] <sureshot> i have xgl already configured and working
[05:59] <matahari> voLvo: Freenx, yes
[05:59] <voLvo> matahari, cool
[05:59] <burepe> I am giving this comp to a friend. How can I change the admin name? I know the location, but when I tried to add a new user as an admin it couldn't access a lot of the settings under system.
[06:00] <variant> sureshot: may as well stick with it. .if your card supports it its probably better longrun to go with aiglx
[06:00] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - im having problems with bluetooth - I enter the pin '5555' on my phone, but its saying its wrong. i've registered the pin-helper in hcid.conf as a script that outputs PIN:5555 - any ideas?
[06:00] <voLvo> can you guide me with the basics, like how to access the nxserver option and or configure it ?
[06:00] <Super_Cat_Frog> burepe: you need to set the usernumber of the new user as '0'
[06:00] <variant> collin: what laptop is it exactly?>
[06:00] <voLvo> matahari, all i can see is NXCLIENT options
[06:00] <variant> collin: I have a toshiba stellite pro a60
[06:01] <burepe> Super_Cat_Frog, and that will replace the old admin with the new one?
[06:01] <sureshot> variant thanks for your help sometime i get off topic and thanks again for your latitude but you all are very useful to noobies like me i will go now and try to set up to aiglx
[06:01] <Super_Cat_Frog> burepe: no, that will create a user that can do stuff that root can do
[06:01] <burepe> ok thanks
[06:01] <matahari> voLvo: aren't you able to receive Privmessages?
[06:02] <collin> the laptop is a satellite a105-4004
[06:02] <Symbolizer> Can i install fmod from synaptic
[06:02] <variant> collin: have you read the info at acpi.sourceforge.net?
[06:03] <collin> no i haven't
[06:03] <collin> i've just used the ubuntu forums and toshiba website
[06:03] <sureshot> i have a satellite m65 s9092
[06:03] <variant> collin: basically, your pretty fecked. you will have to get your dsdt, decompile it, compile it to get the errors, fix the errors in the decompiled version and compile the new version, then force the kernel to load it at boot time.
[06:03] <Squiggly> hello
[06:03] <variant> collin: oh, and it probably wont work still :/
[06:04] <Squiggly> I am having trouble installing Ubuntu on a new laptop.  The installer keeps crashing when it tries to setup GRUB.
[06:04] <collin> hmmm, do you think that toshiba will come out with a fix
[06:04] <variant> collin: see on this website if somone has allready done the hard work for you and uploaded a fixed dsdt: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php
[06:05] <burepe> Super_Cat_Frog, I just tried to make one with the "user id" as 0 but it said there was one already. Could you explain how to do it?
[06:05] <shriphani> Squiggly, install lilo then
[06:05] <collin> thanks
[06:05] <moparfan90> hello. i am trying to install wine 0.9.22 on ubuntu 6.06 64bit
[06:05] <collin> i'll look
[06:05] <moparfan90> can seomeone help me with his?
[06:05] <Squiggly> Is that an option from the alternate install disc?
[06:05] <variant> collin: nope, because tosh laptops with pheonix bioses are not actualy made by toshiba, they are just re branded from some chinese sweatshop manufacturer
[06:05] <shriphani> moparfan90, add the budgetdedicated repos and use apt-get
[06:05] <variant> collin: there is _no_ chance that toshiba has a fixed version
[06:06] <collin> thanks for your help variant
[06:06] <moparfan90> theres no deb for 0.9.22 yet... and there wont be fore 64bit ... i need to do it a different way
[06:06] <collin> i've got to go
[06:06] <moparfan90> any one know how?
[06:06] <moparfan90> from source
[06:06] <shriphani> moparfan90, use apt-get
[06:06] <moparfan90> theres no .deb
[06:06] <shriphani> moparfan90, there is
[06:07] <shriphani> the repos have it
[06:07] <moparfan90> not for the new version of wine
[06:07] <shriphani> go to the ubuntu source-o-matic site
[06:07] <shriphani> get the wine repos 'not universe' the budggtdedicated
[06:07] <matahari> has anyone of you experience with parallels in ubuntu?
[06:07] <matahari> i have strange errors on installation
[06:07] <shriphani> add them to sources.list
[06:07] <shriphani> and sudo apt-get update
[06:07] <variant> matahari: what is that?
[06:08] <shriphani> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:08] <matahari> variant: like VmWare
, there is no .deb for the newest version of wine
[06:08] <variant> matahari: ah, is it free software?
[06:08] <moparfan90> i need to install from source code
[06:08] <shriphani> variant, dont the wine repos have the latest version ?
[06:09] <variant> moparfan90: you can probably find a .deb for it on the net
[06:09] <matahari> variant: no
[06:09] <matahari> variant: 15 days trial
[06:09] <matahari> and the licence costs 50$
[06:09] <variant> matahari: ew, does not interest me then :)
[06:09] <matahari> and it's worth
[06:09] <shriphani> umm variant i asked ya a q
[06:09] <variant> shriphani: sorry, lots going on rightnow
[06:10] <shriphani> lol ok
[06:10] <naknomik> what does the /lib/module/<kernel version>/build usually point to?
[06:10] <variant> shriphani: why did you ask me? I have no idea
[06:10] <variant> shriphani: sorry :)
[06:10] <Squiggly> naknomik:  The kernel source code
[06:10] <kingace1> hi im back
[06:10] <kingace1> im actually in the ubuntu livecd now
[06:10] <kingace1> thanks alot variant
[06:10] <shriphani> variant, cuz source-o-matic says the budgetdedicated repos have bleeding edge wine
[06:10] <naknomik> Squiggly: does that mean /usr/src/linux directory?
[06:11] <shriphani> Bleeding edge wine packages
[06:11] <shriphani> This repository always contains the last version of the popular WINE program which is used to run MS Windows applications on a Linux platform
[06:11] <shriphani> Supported versions:
[06:11] <shriphani>     * breezy
[06:11] <shriphani>     * dapper
[06:11] <shriphani> Supported architectures:
[06:11] <shriphani>     * i386
[06:11] <shriphani> 
[06:11] <shriphani> Packages
[06:11] <shriphani> Sources
[06:11] <kingace1> i'd like to install ubuntu onto this usb disk, but it's not showing up as an available disk for me to install on
[06:11] <shriphani> uh oh
[06:11] <shriphani> sorry folks
[06:11] <kingace1> could someone point me towards a tutorial or something
[06:11] <shriphani> really sorry
[06:11] <naknomik> Squiggly: I don't see such a link, I have installed the linux-source.
[06:11] <Squiggly> naknomik, I think that's the default location, so probably yes.
[06:12] <naknomik> Squiggly: is that created only if I build a kernel myself?
[06:12] <shriphani> moparfan90, the big bit of shit i pasted there roves my statement
[06:12] <shriphani> you can check the link if you want
[06:13] <moparfan90> whats the link/
[06:13] <moparfan90> ?
[06:13] <Squiggly> naknomik: I don't know.  I was compiling a driver and had to make the link myself.
[06:13] <whurley> ok, dumb question. When you're booted from the installer, what's the key(s) for pulling up a cmd line?
[06:13] <LjL> whurley: try ctrl+alt+f1
[06:13] <shriphani> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:13] <LjL> whurley: failing that, ctrl+alt+f2 etc
[06:13] <graveson> what tool can i use to copy *.mp3 files to my psp in *.m4a format so as to conserve space. a gui tool would be preferable
[06:13] <shriphani> moparfan90, thats the link
[06:13] <moparfan90> ok
[06:13] <whurley> ljl: nope didn't work (that's what I thought it was)
[06:14] <pluma> Apparently Eclipse is currently at version 3.2.1 stable. The package manager only has 3.1.2 as latest, though. Is there a way to update it without having to uninstall the package or manually replace the files?
[06:14] <naknomik> where can I find the .config file that was used to build the current kernel I'm using?
[06:14] <shriphani> the repos are down below
[06:14] <LjL> whurley: uhm, perhaps the live CD doesn't come with a console configured at all? (i'd hate that, but...)
[06:14] <Squiggly> LjL, the live CD definitely has the normal ttys set up, so ctrl-alt-# should go to a command line.
[06:15] <LjL> whurley: are you in X (i.e. in the graphical installer) now?
[06:15] <whurley> LjL: I was afraid someone might say that. Basically, I can't get server to install on my box. It gets as far as "io scheduler cfg registered" and dies (which should be right before the ramdisk function). I've tried every bios and boot option imaginable but can't get it to install.
[06:16] <pluma> I mean, seriously, Eclipse 3.1.2 is significantly worse than 3.2.x
[06:16] <whurley> LL: sad thing is, we're evaluating this for our data center, and so far no one is impressed :(
[06:16] <LjL> whurley: hm, i see, then you're not even reaching the point when terminals get started
[06:16] <whurley> LjL: I'm able to boot both the AMD64 version and the Alt Version to the graphical installer, but during install, it just locks hard
[06:17] <LjL> whurley: have you run an md5sum on the CDs to check for any defects?
[06:17] <KDan> what's wrong with ubuntu as a server?
[06:18] <frito>  my Linux box - I seem to have 2 variants of Xchat
[06:18] <shriphani> KDan, dunno havent tried it
[06:18] <hondje> 'server' is a very vauge thing
[06:18] <whurley> LjL: yeah, the CDs are fine, even burned multiple copies lol
[06:18] <shriphani> frito, xchat-gnome and xchat-common ?
[06:18] <Omega69> when will be launch ubuntu 6.10?(no beta versions)
[06:18] <LjL> whurley: tried passing the "acpi=off" option to the kernel at boot? (just the standard suggestion when boot doesn't succeed...)
[06:18] <Squiggly> I can't tell if my installation is frozen.  Is the "Configuring APT sources" a particularly long step?
[06:18] <frito> yer - upgrade problem!
[06:19] <pluma> Anyone?
[06:19] <shriphani> Squiggly, on mine it us
[06:19] <shriphani> is ^
[06:19] <shriphani> takes like a good 20 mins
[06:19] <frito> but acpi is the real problem
[06:19] <Squiggly> Ok, I'll wait
[06:19] <shriphani> Squiggly, is it like at 84 percent ?
[06:19] <Squiggly> 70%
[06:19] <shriphani> ok
[06:19] <shriphani> still fine
[06:19] <Squiggly> good
[06:19] <whurley> LjL: yep. pci=noacpi noapXX nolXX all of them. Also tried setting MEM=4000M but that causes a kernel panic
[06:20] <graveson> what tool can i use to copy *.mp3 files to my psp in *.m4a format so as to conserve space. a gui tool would be preferable
[06:20] <pluma> If a package is seriously outdated and no new version is available via the repos, is there a way to upgrade the package manually or something?
[06:21] <shriphani> graveson, you could make a bash script.......... gui i dunno
[06:21] <LjL> pluma: there's always a way. it might not necessarily be a good idea, though.
[06:21] <Squiggly> pluma, I just downloaded it from the Eclipse website and installed it myself.
[06:21] <pluma> LjL: In other words, I have to stick to the outdated version until someone bothers to upgrade the package or I have to uninstall the package and keep it up-to-date manually?
[06:22] <LjL> pluma: you can search for an unofficial package, or can find if there is some Debian package for the version you want (but installing packaged intended for Debian can create problems), or find an RPM and install it through alien (even more serious problems), or compile it from source (a relatively safe option, not too easy though)
[06:22] <Squiggly> Eclipse 3.2 has an automatic updater
[06:22] <Squiggly> It's in the help menu, I think
[06:22] <dainanaki> do you have the backports enabled?
[06:22] <graveson> shriphani: using which tool
[06:22] <pluma> So does 3.1, but it doesn't allow me to update to 3.2 via that.
[06:23] <variant> pluma: contrary to LjL, compiling from source is easy imo
[06:23] <pluma> It simply doesn't show any newer version than 3.1.2 in the auto-update
[06:23] <LjL> pluma: guess so. besides, Ubuntu packages never get updated, except for security fixes and serious bug fixes... as dainanaki is saying, the only way you can get an updated package from standard repos is from backports -- not too many packages there
[06:23] <MattiaPascal> hi guys
[06:23] <variant> pluma: what package is it?
[06:23] <LjL> pluma: you *can* make a request for a package to be backported, though, and if it doesn't conflict with some libraries or whatever, the backport guys will often do it
[06:23] <pluma> Wait... so what good are the repos if they are always outdated?
[06:24] <pluma> Well, I found this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/52426
[06:24] <variant> pluma: it is eclipse you want?
[06:24] <LjL> pluma: not everybody feels the need to be at the bleeding edge of everything, especially since we have a distribution upgrade every 6 months
[06:24] <pluma> variant: couple of packages, I think. Base package seems to be eclipse.
[06:24] <dainanaki> there are less chances for conflict if everything is reasonably static
[06:24] <pluma> variant: I need Eclipse 3.2 because most plugins are not backwards compatible.
[06:25] <texxo> Hey.. how can I download the linux-headers for a friend of mine?
[06:25] <LjL> pluma: just install Edgy if you want bleeding edge (and unstable)....
[06:25] <LjL> pluma: (and whatever becomes the experimental version after Edgy is released)
[06:25] <pluma> LjL: The funny part is that it's neither bleeding, nor unstable. It's just the latest stable -.-
[06:25] <variant> pluma: it's not an ideal situation but you do need to wait for somone to make an updated package and included it in ubuntu, or you can creat your own
[06:25] <LjL> pluma: "beta" conflicts with "stable" in my mind.
[06:26] <dainanaki> it can be a beta distro with stable packages
[06:26] <LjL> ...
[06:26] <MattiaPascal> I've a problem with my ppp connection
[06:26] <MattiaPascal> i use an adsl modem
[06:26] <variant> MattiaPascal: whats the prob?
[06:26] <MattiaPascal> and it works well
[06:26] <pluma> LjL: It's not beta according to the version number. Eclipse.org DOES hand me 3.2.1 as latest stable.
[06:26] <MattiaPascal> but when i access websites with ssl
[06:27] <MattiaPascal> like yahoo mail etc
[06:27] <LjL> pluma: i was talking about the Edgy release of Ubuntu, not about Eclipse
[06:27] <pluma> LjL: as in, recommended download.
[06:27] <MattiaPascal> it's very slow
[06:27] <Wolfpaws> Hi! How can I fix this?
[06:27] <Wolfpaws> dpkg: error processing python2.4-dev (--configure):
[06:27] <Wolfpaws>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:27] <variant> MattiaPascal: what connection speed is it?
[06:27] <LjL> !info eclipse edgy
[06:27] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[06:27] <MattiaPascal> 2MB adsl
[06:27] <Renan_s2> !info firefox edgy
[06:27] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.99+2.0b2+dfsg-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8936 kB, installed size 28308 kB
[06:27] <LjL> pluma: anyway, it appears that not even edgy includes version 3.2.1
[06:27] <MattiaPascal> with an adsl usb modem
[06:27] <Renan_s2> !info amarok edgy
[06:27] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 14336 kB, installed size 31192 kB
[06:28] <eracc> USB for networking is just ... WRONG
[06:28] <MattiaPascal> i know
[06:28] <variant> MattiaPascal: well, ssl does require more overhead but that shouldnt cause a very noticable slowdown
[06:28] <pluma> LjL: Just because it doesn't include it doesn't mean the version is unstable or bleeding edge or anything. 3.2 has been out for quite a while.
[06:28] <variant> MattiaPascal: is it _all_ ssl websited?
[06:28] <LjL> pluma: ok. and?
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> MattiaPascal: I have noticed that my yahoo mail has been considerably slower than it was a few months ago, I had not tried it from XP to see if there is a difference
[06:28] <variant> MattiaPascal: what isp do you have?
[06:28] <pluma> LjL: Just saying.
[06:29] <MattiaPascal> i'm from italy
[06:29] <MattiaPascal> telecom italia
[06:29] <dantje> Samsung 204B, nv driver, Dapper: NV(0): Mode "1600x1200@60" is larger than BIOS programmed panel size of 1280 x 1024.
[06:29] <variant> MattiaPascal: I can probably not help so much then, websites will all be in italian when i look it up
[06:29] <ChickenTalons> Jack_Sparrow, its bad in windows too
[06:29] <pluma> Ah, so I guess it's the joy of manual installation for me again. Yay.
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Thought so..
[06:29] <ChickenTalons> it just poops out
[06:29] <dantje> Anybody knows whats wrong?
[06:29] <LjL> pluma: well, time is limited, people have a limited number of fingers, and all of that... if you're not satisfied with the speed at which new packages are included, you could probably consider helping out. otherwise, i can understand your disappointment, but cannot do much about it
[06:30] <variant> pluma: stop whineing
[06:30] <nodey> hey guys ... need some help ...with the sources.list ... i have been facing this prob
[06:30] <ChickenTalons> you have to hit refresh a few times occasionally
[06:30] <nodey> cripperz@cripperz:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get update
[06:30] <nodey> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> PLus all the other users in my area that jumped on the 12.99 deal are clogging the bangdwidth
[06:30] <Squiggly> Still at 70%...
[06:30] <eracc> variant, you should not need to read Italian to determine a network problem for MattiaPascal. :-)
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> band..sorry
[06:30] <pluma> variant: If you bothered to read what I say, you'd have noticed I'm not merely complaining but asking what I can do about it. Stop insulting.
[06:31] <nodey>   Connection failed
[06:31] <nodey> anyone with an updated links of sources.list ?
[06:31] <Wolfpaws> Which package contains pycentral script?
[06:31] <MattiaPascal> what i understand is that is a ppp connection problem
[06:31] <variant> eracc: I was going to look up if anyone else had problems with that isp.. general users of italian isp's come from italy and talk italian.. so yeah it helps
[06:31] <MattiaPascal> because if i surf with a lan connection i haven't any problem
[06:31] <nodey> ...
[06:32] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: so you cant connect with your ppp? does ubuntu recognize it?
[06:32] <pluma> LjL: So how *could* I help out?
[06:32] <MattiaPascal> i can connect but it is very slow
[06:32] <MattiaPascal> especially with ssl site
[06:32] <variant> MattiaPascal: sounds likly.. do you connect to the modem via a router or directly with usb or somthing?
[06:32] <MattiaPascal> with usb
[06:32] <eracc> MattiaPascal, I figure the problem is related to the SSL overhead <> USB connection. Probably not solvable, at least not easily.
[06:32] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: okay, did you try to see what happens if you try it with Windows?
[06:32] <dhq> hey all
[06:33] <variant> MattiaPascal: how is it in *other* operating systems
[06:33] <variant> ?
[06:33] <easytiger> how do i configure samba to not require a password?
[06:33] <MattiaPascal> with windows i0ve not problems
[06:33] <dhq> i have problem when i run glx gears i get this msg
[06:33] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: what type of usb card for your ppp are you using?
[06:33] <dhq> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[06:33] <MattiaPascal> is a ST chipset
[06:33] <variant> MattiaPascal: probably just the driver for your modem then, is it an alcatel speedtouch or somthing?
[06:33] <MattiaPascal> bewan adsl modem
[06:33] <erUSUL> easytiger: instead of security=user use security=shared iirc
[06:34] <MattiaPascal> yes similar to the speedtouch
[06:34] <variant> MattiaPascal: can you connect to it via ethernet or via a router?
[06:34] <easytiger> erUSUL: i'll try it.. i had the former
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> dhq: How did you install your video drivers and where did you get them?
[06:34] <variant> MattiaPascal: the usb driver is probably to blame... try upgrading the drivers for it
[06:34] <MattiaPascal> I can connect via my desktop pc
[06:34] <variant> MattiaPascal: whats the modem please?
[06:34] <dhq> Jack_Sparrow: well i its i810 drivers
[06:34] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: what kernel are you using?
[06:34] <MattiaPascal> bewan adsl atm usb modem
[06:34] <eracc> variant, <MattiaPascal> bewan adsl modem
[06:35] <variant> eracc: thank you
[06:35] <dantje> dhq: Did you enter the glx entry to xorg.conf?
[06:35] <dhq> dantje: yes i guess
[06:35] <MattiaPascal> I installed the latest version of the drivers
[06:35] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: type 'uname -r' in shell
 it still prompts for a password
[06:35] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: what number does it give?
[06:35] <MattiaPascal> 2.6.15
[06:36] <variant> MattiaPascal: lol, i was about to sugest updating
[06:36] <LjL> pluma: depends on your abilities i suppose. you could create packages yourself, after a good read of the Debian packaging manual... not that i would say that's terribly easy. or you could patch bugs that you find. or you could simply report the bugs that you find. or you could help writing or proofreading documentation. or or or... not that any of this is directly related with making the latest Eclipse work, but it all helps. one more person help
[06:36] <LjL> opers, who can then make things go a bit faster...
[06:36] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: 15-23?
[06:36] <erUSUL> easytiger: i do not use samba myself so i can not help you further... sorry :(
[06:36] <dantje> dantje
[06:36] <MattiaPascal> yrs
[06:36] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: well I think its the usb drivers that dont work very well, you could try updating to 15-27 if you're feeling bold though
[06:36] <eracc> variant, looks like MattiaPascal's "modem" only has USB and RJ11 connectors. Yikes.
[06:37] <dantje> ups, I'll now try the nvidia driver...
[06:37] <dhq> brb
[06:37] <MattiaPascal> I'll try
[06:37] <variant> eracc: yep, crappy hardware
[06:37] <eracc> variant, yeah. I feel his pain. ;-)
[06:37] <MattiaPascal> what i don't aunderstand is why i have these problems only with ssl sites
[06:38] <Squiggly> How long should I wait for this "Configuring APT sources" step?  It hasn't moved from 70% since it started about 15 minutes ago.
[06:38] <MattiaPascal> it's not ssl managed by the kernel?
[06:38] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: It's the USB drivers that cause the slowdown
[06:38] <pluma> Well, as there's a build for my architecture out, I'll just go and download that now. Probably not as clean as building from source, but I don't want to go through that mess right now.
[06:38] <variant> eracc: /me hugs his 16GB bandwidth :P
[06:38] <LjL> Squiggly: dunno, have spiders started making webs on your body yet? :P
[06:38] <philth> Should be an easy question if i installed a package (ircd-hybrid) with dpkg and wish to enable a configure command client ssl with openssl, is there any way to do that without compiling?
[06:38] <Jas-Nix> hello, is there potential problems with using a dapper package on edgy ? I am trying to install freenx and the only repo I've found is for dapper
[06:39] <LjL> pluma: if it works out of the box, why not. is it a .deb?
[06:39] <SlackRat> wtf happened with thunderbird on dapper.......again?!
[06:39] <variant> eracc: your silence makes me suspect that you don't beleive me :)
[06:39] <eracc> variant, that's gotta be a commercial connection ... or are you in Japan? :-p
 you were almost right the first time
[06:39] <variant> eracc: I work in a datacenter :)
[06:40] <pluma> LjL: Nope. Sadly not. I'm googling to figure out whether anybody bothered to create a deb for it atm.
[06:40] <variant> eracc: and i am at work :)
[06:40] <easytiger>    "security = share"
[06:40] <MattiaPascal> anyway thank for suggestions
[06:40] <eracc> Yup, commercial connection. Not for us mere mortals then, huh variant? :-)
[06:40] <insub> !ops
[06:40] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:40] <MattiaPascal> bye
[06:40] <variant> MattiaPascal: yeah, try borrowing a router from somone
[06:40] <davin^afk> MattiaPascal: you're welcome, bye
[06:40] <dhq> glxgears give me 728 frames in 5.9 seconds = 122.698 FPS
[06:40] <shriphani> !restricted
[06:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:40] <philth> Should be an easy question if i installed a package (ircd-hybrid) with dpkg and wish to enable a configure command client ssl with openssl, is there any way to do that without compiling?
[06:41] <SlackRat> anyone else have thunderbird suddenly fall down go boom?
[06:41] <pluma> LjL: There seems to be a package for Debian out, but only in testing and unstable.
[06:41] <nalioth> DBO: the guy !op'd and ran.
[06:41] <pluma> LjL: Unstable and experimental, I mean.
[06:41] <DBO> nalioth, yeah just noticed...
[06:41] <DBO> thanks
[06:41] <dhq> !glx
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <dhq> !glxgears
[06:42] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[06:42] <LjL> pluma: well... it might work. or it might mess up something. can't really give you any advice there :\
[06:42] <pluma> LjL: Also apparently the unstable package breaks Eclipse. At least according to a recent bug report. So I'll try to go with the binaries then.
[06:42] <KDan> oh b*ll*cks
[06:43] <SlackRat> is it kde thats breaking thunderbird , any clues?
[06:43] <KDan> somehow my own box won't let me sudo anymore
[06:43] <ompaul> KDan, that is out of order we ask you don't use *
[06:43] <ompaul> KDan, did you change the name in /etc/hostname or some such?
[06:43] <variant> eracc: I get like 10ms lag on game servers in europe and maybe 50 in the US :P
[06:43] <eracc> Ah! ubotu is a supybot. Nice choice. :-)
[06:43] <KDan> not that i know of
[06:43] <KDan> sorry about the *
[06:43] <dhq> glxgears give me 728 frames in 5.9 seconds = 122.698 FPS
[06:44] <dhq> how do i increse it
[06:44] <ompaul> KDan, did you play with /etc/sudoers
[06:44] <KDan> nope
[06:44] <SlackRat> ack
[06:44] <KDan> i was trying to change the primary group of my user
[06:44] <ompaul> KDan, in a terminal do id and what does it say?
[06:44] <eracc> variant, not bad. I gat about 40 - 50 ms with my l'il ole fibre ethernet connection here. :-)
[06:44] <omar> Hi guys, I gotta a Cellphone Sony ericsson and I would like to mount it in my linux, do you know how to do it??? all the software in Internet is for Windows
[06:44] <ompaul> KDan, not a good idea add other groups and move them in /etc/groups
[06:44] <KDan> dan@bauer:~$ id
[06:44] <KDan> uid=1000(dan) gid=1000(dan) groups=100(users),1000(dan)
[06:44] <variant> omar: play et?
[06:44] <shriphani> omar, dmesg might help ?
[06:44] <variant> eracc: play et?
[06:45] <eracc> variant, oh yes.
[06:45] <eracc> On Who
[06:45] <compwiz> i finely got XGL/Beryl working!!!
[06:45] <variant> eracc: fancy a game? (i suck though
[06:45] <SlackRat> is it because i added the proposed dapper repos?
[06:45] <KDan> would it be the fact that my primary group has changed?
[06:45] <ompaul> KDan, reboot the box, choose the recovery option from grub and edit /etc/groups and ehhhh there you go
[06:45] <eracc> <- is a Who clan member.
[06:45] <LjL> omar: well, "apt-cache search ericsson" does show up a few packages. perhaps some of them might be what you need?
[06:45] <KDan> and what do i edit in /etc/groups?
[06:45] <radar1976> morning...
[06:45] <pluma> LjL: Well, I already manually installed Sun's JDK, so I'll probably be able to figure this out as well. ^^
[06:45] <ompaul> KDan, the line you edited to change it in the first place
[06:46] <KDan> i didn't edit it
[06:46] <KDan> i just did "usermod -g users dan"
[06:46] <variant> eracc: never heard of them
[06:46] <variant> eracc: /query
[06:46] <ompaul> KDan, would do it
[06:46] <eracc> variant, sure.
[06:46] <shriphani> variant, play aoe ?
[06:46] <variant> shriphani: nope
[06:46] <KDan> ok, so i do "usermod -g dan dan" to undo it then i guess?
[06:46] <shriphani> aww
[06:47] <shriphani> i tried it under wine and it ran
[06:47] <ompaul> KDan, you can - in recovery mode
[06:47] <LjL> omar: also, "apt-cache show gnokii". from the description, i'm not really sure i understand what it is - but it does involve communicating with Symbian phone (your Sony Ericsson has Symbian, doesn't it?)
[06:47] <shriphani> i needed a no cd crack
[06:47] <KDan> ok, thanks ompaul, will try that now
[06:47] <variant> shriphani: is that not a ms game?
[06:47] <shriphani> variant, yes
[06:47] <shriphani> but its good
[06:47] <variant> shriphani: and it works on gnu/linux?
[06:47] <shriphani> variant, i got aoe2 running in wine
[06:48] <shriphani> no sound tho
[06:48] <variant> shriphani: nice, i am impressed. ah, shame about the sound
[06:48] <shriphani> so i got to figure that out
[06:48] <SlackRat> running TB from cli gets a mess of seg faults
[06:48] <shriphani> and the panels on the top stay
[06:48] <difeta> does anybody know if mythtv .20 packages exist anywhere yet?
[06:48] <Seveas> difeta, in edgy 
[06:48] <shriphani> the mouse doesnt work right..... its a nightmare in wine
[06:49] <LjL> !info mythtv edgy
[06:49] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.20-0.0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:49] <difeta> Seveas, when is edgy going to be released?
[06:49] <sureshot> how do you add something to your sourcelist
[06:49] <LjL> october 26
[06:49] <difeta> thanks all
[06:50] <LjL> sureshot: it's just a text file, you edit it with a text editor
[06:50] <LjL> sureshot: you have to have administrator rights to edit it, though -- do you know about sudo?
[06:50] <shriphani> eracc, how many are 'native ' to unix ?
[06:50] <sureshot> i know sudo what editor
[06:50] <sureshot> and ware is it
[06:50] <tyuio> id software does a pretty good job
[06:50] <eracc> shriphani, quite a few have native versions. ET is one of course.
[06:51] <LjL> sureshot: any editor... "nano" for example. "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:51] <bananddan> edit it in i
[06:51] <bananddan> vi
[06:51] <sureshot> thanks LjL
[06:51] <shriphani> cube and prboom ?
[06:51] <bananddan> edit it in vi also k
[06:51] <eracc> shriphani, by native I mean they release a version that will run on my OS of choice without WINE, etc.
[06:51] <bananddan> but need to under root
[06:51] <shriphani> eracc, sof1 was ported to linux i suppose
[06:52] <eracc> shriphani, if it is ported to Linux then there is a native version. :-)
[06:52] <shriphani> sof1 was but maybe closed and not monetarily charitable
[06:52] <eracc> I will actually pay for those to support Linux development of games.
[06:52] <shriphani> :)
[06:53] <shriphani> goodnight  bedtime here
[06:54] <sureshot> LjL got it thanks man
[06:54] <eracc> Heh, variant, you are not identified to services? I see nothing from you in my /query dialog. :-)
[06:55] <radar1976> still trying to get my pb g4 trackpad to work with synaptic driver
[06:55] <radar1976> anyone able to get it working?
[06:56] <jwebb> LoRez, Hi...can you help me with a problem?
[06:56] <KDan> ompaul: done -- fingers crossed it works... rebooting now.
[06:56] <LoRez> jwebb: not with #ubuntu
[06:56] <LoRez> er... s/#//
[06:56] <radar1976> jwebb well we might be able to but you need to tell us what is the problem
[06:57] <jwebb> I'm following the instructions on #fedora-join-instructions....and it says to ask a staffer for help.
[06:57] <Rasta> wich app you guys recommend for the msn network?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> jwebb,  and the problem is?
[06:57] <stu_> hey did stargate take a break last night?
[06:57] <stu_> the series
[06:57] <LjL> Rasta: if you're under gnome, i think Gaim is generally good enough. otherwise, perhaps amsn.
[06:58] <Rasta> i used to use amsn but i see a lot of people using gaim
[06:58] <KDan> ompaul: hmm, it didn't save the groups... i did "usermod -g dan dan" as root after rescue booted, and then rebooted with "reboot", and now my user has primary group "users" again
[06:58] <stu_> s10e11
[06:58] <jwebb> Sorry....It won't let me register my nick.
[06:58] <shriphani> wtf
[06:58] <Rasta> LjL, ok, ill give  a try to gaim
[06:58] <pluma> What was the command line tool that manages /etc/alternatives/ called again?
[06:58] <shriphani> i got disconnects
[06:58] <shriphani> bah this keyboard
[06:58] <LjL> pluma: update-alternatives i guess
[06:59] <pluma> LjL: Ah, yes. That's the one.
[06:59] <LoRez> jwebb: tells you to wait?
[06:59] <ompaul> KDan, use nano /etc/group and enjoy user 1000
[06:59] <Ganesha> in my printer status i see Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed.. wht does this mean?
[07:00] <Ganesha> and when i try to print appears job:stopped
[07:00] <KDan> ompaul: what do you mean??
[07:00] <KDan> where do i set the primary group in /etc/group?
[07:01] <KDan> oh does /etc/group only store the primary group?
[07:01] <speedo_> guys
[07:01] <speedo_> i have ubuntu
[07:01] <speedo_> now i'm installing kde
[07:02] <ompaul> KDan, use nano /etc/group and enjoy you will see it as dan on the left as "kdan:x:1000:"
[07:02] <speedo_> could i have any problems?
[07:02] <speedo_> in terms of compatibility and stability
[07:02] <speedo_> ?
[07:03] <Rasta> seems that i have to compile gaim under ubuntu, there are repositories where i can find .deb files compatibles with ubuntu?
[07:03] <tyuio> other than a little more memory used no
[07:03] <Rasta> stupid me
[07:03] <MaxL> hey guys just wondering if there are any programs like fruity loops for ubuntu
[07:03] <Rasta> gaim comes installed by default on drapper
[07:04] <Rasta> >(
[07:04] <LjL> Rasta: yes it does. anyway...
[07:04] <LjL> !tell rasta about repos
[07:04] <MaxL> Rasta: I personally prefer Kopete over GAIM, but GAIM is better since Ubuntu is defaultly gnome.
[07:05] <deep__> xlibs, how can i install them? cant find them in repos. :/
[07:05] <deep__> Umm, them = it.
[07:05] <Homer> MaxL: yeah there is, I think it's called freeloops
[07:05] <Homer> not sure
[07:05] <Rasta> MaxL, try http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
[07:06] <MaxL> I have audacity?
[07:06] <Homer> audacity is more for audio editing then creation
[07:06] <MaxL> I already have audacity, I hook my bass up to the pc and record it xD
[07:06] <johny5> Hello, I have a drive that I want to make read/writable to all users, how to I change it from root to all?
[07:06] <Rasta> yeah, my mistake again
[07:06] <deep__> MaxL: LMMS :)
[07:06] <MaxL> deep__: LMMS?
[07:06] <Ganesha> whats lmms?
[07:07] <Ademan> !realplayer
[07:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:07] <deep__> MaxL: Yep, lssm. :)
[07:07] <deep__> Oops
[07:07] <deep__> lmms* :)
[07:07] <Rasta> MaxL, this are the ones http://www.all-day-breakfast.com/rosegarden/ , http://ardour.sf.net/
[07:07] <MaxL> deep__: So where can I get Lssm? Is it in the repositories?
[07:07] <KDan> damn... i've recovered my primary group, but my user is *still* unable to sudo
[07:07] <deep__> lmms* Yes, its in repos. But that one is kinda old.
[07:08] <MaxL> deep__:  So I should download it from it's site?
[07:08] <deep__> MaxL: If you want, you can get the CVS from the site. :)
[07:08] <graveson> can someone please help me convert mp3 files to aac or mp4 audio format. i need to deperately decrease the size of my mp3 files without losing quality
[07:08] <deep__> MaxL: I've never tried that though.
[07:08] <tyuio> why not use ogg
[07:08] <LjL> graveson: you can't convert a lossy compressed format into another lossy format without losing quality
[07:09] <user123456789> hello i got a little problem, i am using ubuntu 6.06 and i installed skype via automatix, when i make a call or receive one for some strange reason the microphone volume goes down maybe according to how loud i speak, how can i stop that?
[07:09] <shriphani> graveson, i told ya make a bash script for it
[07:09] <pricechild> hi all... can anyone help me with compiling kiba-dock? im' experiencing the same problem as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1559251&postcount=6
[07:09] <graveson> LjL: will the quality loss be noticeable . if so can you suggest an alternative method
[07:10] <shriphani> convert it to flac and then to m4a
[07:10] <deep__> Can anyone tell me how to install xlibs? Nothing works :/
[07:10] <variant> shriphani: how would that help?
[07:10] <graveson> shriphani: yes but using which tool
[07:10] <LjL> graveson: it generally will. no, i can't think of a method.
[07:10] <LjL> shriphani: uh... but why?
[07:10] <refnumzx> i am having problems, the installer locks up after detecting disk and all other hardware on an hp ml350 g4 ideas?
[07:10] <shriphani> hmm would there be loss of quality converting from lossy to lossless ?
[07:10] <ifrozen> hi
[07:11] <variant> shriphani: no, but you wont get any quality back
[07:11] <LjL> graveson: of course, if you convert a lossy format into another lossy format *at a high bitrate*, the loss will hardly be noticeable. but that's defeating the purpose i guess
[07:11] <variant> shriphani: so its a pointless intermediate step
[07:11] <Malachi> How can I change the boot splash from kubuntu to the original ubuntu?
[07:11] <shriphani> hmm so why does soundkonverter do that ?
[07:11] <variant> shriphani: no idea, but i see absolutly no reason for it to do so
[07:11] <shriphani> converts mp3 to wav and then convberts it to ogg
[07:12] <LjL> shriphani: what variant said. FLAC, for all intent and purposes, can be considered as "no compression", since it doesn't alter the original bits. so it's just the same as piping the output of an MP3 decoder into the input of an OGG (or whatever) encoder, which *will* lose quality
[07:12] <shriphani> i see
[07:12] <Ignite_> shriphani, that would be a silly thing to do considering mp3 and ogg are both lossy formats, you would just lose quality.
[07:12] <variant> shriphani: maybe the programmer has the same missconception :)
[07:12] <shriphani> yeh
[07:12] <JosefK> for some reason the X server on the desktop CD keeps hanging :/ in "safe graphics mode" too
[07:13] <Ganesha> in my printer status i see Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed.. wht does this mean?
[07:13] <Ganesha> and when i try to print appears job:stopped
[07:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> are there any video processing tools in ubuntu?
[07:13] <Subhuman> shriphani, SK does that because there is no mp3 -> ogg encoder, BUT there is mp3 -> WAV and WAV -> OGG
[07:13] <variant> DeeTahPanLtah: yeah quite a few, possibly not up to much though
[07:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> like adobe premiere or at least windows movie maker
[07:13] <Subhuman> so its a way of getting around the en/decoders limitations
[07:13] <shriphani> ok Subhuman
[07:14] <DeeTahPanLtah> names? are they in repos? ;p
[07:14] <variant> DeeTahPanLtah: yeah, they are not as functional depending on what you want but they do exist
[07:14] <rene32> Does anyone know an application which can sync a SonyEricsson K700i with a PC over a bluetooth connection? For Windows there is FMA which does exactly that, but for Linux/Ubuntu?
[07:14] <variant> DeeTahPanLtah: kino, cinerella.. some others i cant think of
[07:14] <erUSUL> !bluetooth
[07:14] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:14] <DeeTahPanLtah> thanks,i'll try 'em out
[07:14] <Ganesha> can any1 help me?
[07:15] <erUSUL> !anyone
[07:15] <SlackRat> no one else has TB crashing ?
[07:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:15] <variant> Ganesha: what with?
[07:15] <SlackRat> kde on dapper
[07:15] <SlackRat> up to date
[07:15] <Ganesha> variant, with printer
[07:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> and what about xorg video capture? any good tools you'd recommend?
[07:16] <deathz0r> hello, can some one help me connect to a shared printer on a winxp machine using dapper?
[07:16] <Ganesha> in status it shows ready but fooxxx failed
[07:16] <variant> Ganesha: I dont know if i can help you, neither does anyone else cus you havent actualy told us the problem
[07:16] <VoX> !java
[07:16] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:16] <SlackRat> im using opera for mail now, is there another app besides kmail and evolution
[07:16] <SlackRat> ?
[07:16] <deathz0r> firebird
[07:17] <SlackRat> TB is just toooo buggy of late
[07:17] <Ganesha> variant, and it doesnt print
[07:17] <rene32> SlackRat: What is wrong with Opera?
[07:17] <variant> Ganesha: sorry, i dont konw
[07:17] <crazy_penguin> fetchmail and pine or mutt :P
[07:17] <SlackRat> nothing its my replacement for Thunderbird atm
[07:17] <erUSUL> SlackRat: Sylpheed, balsa
[07:17] <Ganesha> i just know that error too
[07:17] <LjL> Subhuman: that would strick me as strange too, though, because there *are* mp3 decoders that output to stdout, and i guess there are ogg encoders that can take input from stdin... so a pipe would usually suffice
[07:17] <SlackRat> which has died once from an upgrade , then this morning, again, no reason
[07:17] <Ganesha>  /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed
[07:17] <SlackRat> filed a report on launchpad
[07:18] <rene32> SlackRat: What is wrong with the Opera email client?
[07:18] <shriphani> variant, is tar -x a wrong command ?
[07:18] <SlackRat> thanks erUSUL
[07:18] <jdahm> hey, does anyone in here use labplot?
[07:18] <refnumzx> i am having problems, the installer locks up after detecting disk and all other hardware on an hp ml350 g4 ideas?
[07:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> is there any good tool to xorg video capture you'd recommend?
[07:18] <erUSUL> LjL: yiu are right i do have a scrip that can convert an entire tree of oggs to mp3 (viceversa will be trivial to do too)
[07:18] <variant> shriphani: depends what your doing..
[07:18] <refnumzx> the system appears to have problems detecting the sata disks
[07:18] <variant> shriphani: it is a tar switch
[07:18] <Malachi> How can I change the boot splash from kubuntu to the original ubuntu?
[07:18] <variant> shriphani: extracts the file
[07:19] <SlackRat> and vice versa on the splash, theres no kubuntu for gdm
[07:19] <variant> shriphani: why?
[07:19] <cyberfall> hey whats the command to restart inetd
[07:19] <crazy_penguin> cyberfall: /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[07:19] <brandon101010> Can someone help me with the "SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device" message? It appears when trying to make up eth1
[07:19] <LjL> erUSUL: didn't have any doubts. i cannot really think of a reason why a converter would pass through a WAV or FLAC stage, except very sloppy programming
[07:20] <deathz0r> how can i use a printer shared on a windows pc using my new ubuntu?
[07:20] <tyuio> but why would someone write a converter to convert lossy to lossy
[07:20] <variant> LjL: unless it did some sort of processing to try and clean it up.. but i agree
[07:20] <LjL> tyuio: well, for example you might have OGG music but only a player capable of handling MP3
[07:20] <variant> tyuio: because they have a mp3player that doesnt support ogg or somthing
[07:21] <shriphani> variant, i am experimenting wh tarballs
[07:21] <erUSUL> LjL: in fact the wav exist but only in the 4kb (or so) of unix pipes buffer it never hits the disk plate ;)
[07:21] <deathz0r> anyone? :(
[07:21] <speedo_> guy is it possible install slackware package on ubuntu?
[07:21] <shriphani> but tar -x does nothing to an archive that is like 10 KB is size
[07:22] <shriphani> speedo_, you mean rpm ?
[07:22] <erUSUL> deathz0r: System> Admin>Printer
[07:22] <speedo_> no
[07:22] <speedo_> i mean .tar for slackware
[07:22] <Dr_willis> 'use the source luke'
[07:22] <LjL> erUSUL: well, if you set the decoder to output WAV, then i guess so (i would set it to some less windows-centric format, but anyway ;)
[07:22] <shriphani> slackware doesnt use rpm ?
[07:22] <LjL> shriphani: nope
[07:22] <Dr_willis> shriphani,  heck no.
[07:22] <speedo_> i don't think so
[07:22] <johny5> How do I set read/write permissions for all users on a hdd?
[07:22] <cyberfall> umm
[07:22] <cyberfall> inetd isnt there
[07:22] <LjL> Shish: it's got its own. which is basically supped-up tarballs
[07:22] <speedo_> mandrake fedora and suse use rpm
[07:22] <variant> anyone know if kino can import normal avi files and such? or is it strictlly only from a digital camer?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> cyberfall,  install it yet?
[07:23] <cyberfall> umm
[07:23] <LjL> shriphani: ^^ (wrong nickname)
[07:23] <shriphani> umm if ita tarballs i think you can install them
[07:23] <Dr_willis> variant,  i cant get it to import anything.
[07:23] <cyberfall> isnt that a defualt thing
[07:23] <variant> Dr_willis: nor i :(
[07:23] <speedo_> is there a simply way to install .bin file?
[07:23] <hilde> Hello, I keep losing my internet connection WIFI on my laptop
[07:23] <LjL> shriphani: on Ubuntu you mean?
[07:23] <shriphani> LjL, yeah
[07:23] <johny5> nevermind...stupid question
[07:23] <Dr_willis> variant,  been wanting to just cut some videos into smaller clips and it cant load none of mine.
[07:23] <cyberfall> well well well
[07:23] <cyberfall> umm
[07:23] <hilde> often it is days ok and then it's gone, I need to cut the power of the wireless modem and then it back ok
[07:24] <cyberfall> thx it wasnt installed
[07:24] <cyberfall> i guess
[07:24] <variant> Dr_willis: nor me.. it kinda suck tbh
[07:24] <harisund> speedo_: easiest way would be to give it execute permissions and then run it ...(double click on it, type the command name on the command prompt) .. what file is it anyway?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> cyberfall,  its not installed by default. since no default services use it.
[07:24] <hilde> Can somebody help me
[07:24] <LjL> shriphani: well, yes, you can try. but for that matter, you can try installing RPMs too (there's a tool for that), and .deb files on their turn are simple AR archives with some standard file structure.  however, it won't necessarily work, since you might have incompatible versions of some libraries on your system, or whatever...
[07:24] <SlackRat> just ask the question hilde
[07:24] <harisund> hilde: have you isolated it to a Linux problem only?
[07:24] <variant> Dr_willis: http://lives.sourceforge.net/
[07:24] <shriphani> LjL, you mean alien ?
[07:24] <LjL> shriphani: oh, note that the slackware tarballs are *not* source, but binary (generally)
[07:24] <variant> Dr_willis: just found that.. not installed it yet
[07:24] <LjL> shriphani: yes i mean alien
[07:25] <hilde> Yes... On this computer it dosn't hapen... It is also wireless
[07:25] <variant> Dr_willis: the screenshots look fairly professional
[07:25] <hilde> The laptop is centrino this is a PC with broadcast
[07:25] <LjL> shriphani: (then i suppose slackware would have source-packages, just like debian has... but i don't really know)
[07:25] <Neo8750> they're called tarballs =8-)
[07:26] <LjL> Neo8750: well, the binaries are called tarballs too. still they *have* some standardization -- so i guess there could be a similar thing for source
[07:26] <burepe> !skype
[07:26] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:26] <Dr_willis> variant,  downloading it now. :P
[07:26] <variant> Dr_willis: deb http://people.ubuntubrasil.org/~rclbelem/lives/dapper/   binary/
[07:26] <variant> Dr_willis: there is a dapper deb
[07:26] <localME> using Bind9   the forwarders   option sends requests to the forward host to check for a match first... is there anyway to have the my bind9 check and if it fails to find a match then send to hte forward host?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> variant,  even better
[07:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:28] <radar1976> no ppc for lives?
[07:28] <variant> Dr_willis: doesnt seem to do anything when run
[07:28] <shriphani> variant, tar -x does nothing
[07:28] <deathz0r> erUSUL: thanks
[07:28] <variant> shriphani: yeah, you cant use it on its own. read man tar it explains
[07:28] <Dr_willis> variant,   :)
[07:29] <variant> Dr_willis: doesnt work here :/
[07:29] <Dr_willis> let me try - that deb is a slightly older version
[07:29] <erUSUL> deathz0r: no problem ;)
[07:29] <shriphani> i got that command from the tar manpage
[07:29] <localME> anyway to configure resloveconf to add an extra nameserver entry in resolve.conf?   a hardcoded one of my choice?
[07:29] <LjL> shriphani: you need to use the "-f" option for tar to read stuff from a given file
[07:29] <LjL> shriphani: otherwise it'll just read from standard input
[07:29] <shriphani> so its tar -xvvf again
[07:29] <variant> Dr_willis: nothing happes, i get the copyright warning and hten nothing (when started from terminal
[07:29] <Arrick> !paste
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:29] <LjL> shriphani: if you want to extract a file and be verbose, yeah
[07:30] <erUSUL> shriphani: 'tar xvf tarball.tar' if it is gz or tgz 'tar xzvf' and if it is bz2 'tar xvjf'
[07:30] <shriphani>  tar -x python.tar
[07:30] <RedRose> which should I chose, apache or apache2?
[07:30] <sureshot> what is wrong with the syntax of this like could anyond tell me.. deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[07:30] <shriphani> that does nothing
[07:30] <erUSUL> shriphani: tar xvf python.tar
[07:30] <variant> shriphani: try piping the file to it
[07:30] <Dr_willis> tar x f (f is for File)
[07:30] <LjL> erUSUL: however i found that my tar usually works with "xf" alone, and guesses whether the archive is plain tar, or tar.gz, or tar.bz2
[07:31] <pandamonium> samba is annoying me
[07:31] <Dr_willis> variant,  yep.. it seems to hang. from the deb.. time to get out the source
[07:31] <erUSUL> LjL: i'm just used to use the full 4 letter options ;)
[07:31] <variant> Dr_willis: same her
[07:31] <variant> e
[07:32] <radar1976> pandamonium whats happening?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> variant,  the web site mentions that issue. and a fix
[07:32] <shriphani> tar -xf works here for tarballs
[07:32] <variant> Dr_willis: where?
[07:32] <LjL> erUSUL: for that matter, i'm used to piping gzip into tar :)
[07:32] <Dr_willis> http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/docs/hangfix.txt
[07:32] <RedRose> which do you recommend, apache or apache2?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> Right there on the first page of the web site. :P
[07:32] <pandamonium> radar1976, i have 2 dozymachines. one will connect but the laptop won't
[07:32] <Dr_willis> It pays to RTFWebsite :P
[07:32] <variant> Dr_willis: stfu :P
[07:32] <hivemind>  Hey. I just got a D-Link wireless router, everything's set up and whatnot but my Laptop's linux (Ubuntu Dapper, 6.06) cannot connect to it. But my WinXPHome install can. I know the wireless card is supported because Ubuntu works fine with my University's wifi network.
[07:32] <erUSUL> LjL: linux/fre software have been allways about choice XD
[07:33] <radar1976> pastebin your config
[07:33] <variant> Dr_willis: #lives
[07:33] <pandamonium> radar it keeps coming up as username \hostname\guest which is greyed out
[07:33] <pandamonium> !pastebin
[07:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:33] <piratepenguin> is there any way to make a window always be on top? (gnome-terminal)
[07:33] <radar1976> what os is the laptop
[07:33] <pandamonium> XP Pro
[07:33] <Dr_willis> variant,  its working now. :P
[07:33] <cyberfall> umm
[07:33] <cyberfall> still no
[07:34] <cyberfall> /etc/inet.d
[07:34] <Alakazamz0r> i am, oh so leet
[07:34] <cyberfall> folder
[07:34] <radar1976> pandamonium try this... create a user account with the same user/pass as the samba server on the xp pro box
[07:34] <lillpelle> piratepenguin: just right click the window "list" and choose "On Top"
[07:34] <radar1976> see what happens...
[07:34] <Rasta> gaim doesnt seems to good for me, ill keep using amsn+xchat
[07:34] <juan> ola
[07:34] <piratepenguin> lillpelle, ahh, I missed that. Thanks :D
[07:34] <pandamonium> radar1976, tried that earlier and it still did the same thing
[07:34] <sureshot> LjL what is wrong with the syntax of this like could anyond tell me.. deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[07:34] <Gothica> hi pippl
[07:34] <variant> Dr_willis: does jack need to be running?
[07:35] <radar1976> hmm odd
[07:35] <easytiger> amsn sucks more than any hooker on earth
[07:35] <Dr_willis> variant,  i had toinstall the jack pacakges.. is all i did.. and edit that .lives config fule
[07:35] <dzer0> hello
[07:35] <hivemind>  Hey. I just got a D-Link wireless router, everything's set up and whatnot but my Laptop's linux (Ubuntu Dapper, 6.06) cannot connect to it. But my WinXPHome install can. I know the wireless card is supported because Ubuntu works fine with my University's wifi network. Any ideas?
 is it an authentication problem?
[07:36] <pandamonium> pasted conf
[07:36] <dzer0> I can't get my printer (HP LaserJet 1020) to work. It found it immediately, and always SAYS it's printing the page and then says it finished, but nothing happens on the printer
[07:36] <hivemind> easytiger: I can't see how. I disabled WEP.
[07:36] <hivemind> easytiger Also, the WinXP install connects nigh-automagically with it.
[07:36] <easytiger> wierd. wireless isnt great on linux. but i use it mroe or less fine
[07:36] <variant> Dr_willis: i installed jack and i just get exec of jack server failed
[07:37] <hivemind> easytiger Well the strange thing is, Ubuntu wireless works fine at University...
[07:37] <eracc> variant, the whosgaming.com main server is running one of their custom maps right now.
[07:37] <KDan> anyone got experience making a winXP install connect to a nfs share on an ubuntu box? have been struggling with it all afternoon. Could use some advice from someone who knows how to get the username mapping working
 have you tried resetting the router and starting frmo scratch?
[07:37] <variant> eracc: sorry, i gotta go home now :/
[07:37] <variant> eracc: well, a few mins anywya
[07:37] <Dr_willis> variant,   i never had to run jack
[07:37] <eracc> variant, ah, ok. Maybe later then. :-)
[07:37] <variant> Dr_willis: hmm, wont start here :(
[07:37] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the name of the linux keyboard handler?
[07:37] <variant> eracc: yep
[07:38] <radar1976> pandamonium what version of samba
[07:38] <Ash-Fox> KDan, install windows services for unix. Then you should be able to get winxp to browse the NFS shares just fine.
[07:38] <pandamonium> radar1976, how do i find it please?
[07:38] <svu_tv> how would I use compiz on edgy as window manager (with aiglx)? Do I need some extra repositories?
[07:38] <kaolti> hey i have a problem
[07:38] <Ash-Fox> !xgl
[07:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:38] <hivemind> easytiger: I'll give that a shot -_-
[07:38] <KDan> Ash-Fox: i wish. that's where i was about 4 hours ago
[07:38] <kaolti> i have linux installed on my hd
[07:39] <amx109> hey. im running 6.10 beta. how do i change the mount point for all my partitions without touching /etc/fstab directly? im sure there was a GUI for this somewhere in dapper?
[07:39] <hivemind> Thank you.
[07:39] <radar1976> apt-cache dump |grep samba
[07:39] <cyberfall> dam they named it something alse
[07:39] <kaolti> but i installed windows xp and no w i cant boot ubuntu
[07:39] <Ash-Fox> KDan, well it's working here...
[07:39] <kaolti> because the mbr got screwed up by xp
[07:39] <kaolti> anybody knows how to fix this?
[07:39] <el_MVP> t5frg
[07:39] <cyberfall> inetutils-inetd crazy
[07:39] <KDan> Ash-Fox: i'm sure :-) unfortunately it's not working here :-P
[07:39] <kaolti> so i can have a dual boot with xp/ububntu
[07:39] <Ash-Fox> kaolti, yes, reinstall grub.
[07:39] <kaolti> ?
[07:39] <kaolti> how do i do that?
[07:39] <svu_tv> Ash-Fox, thanks but I asked about aiglx ;)
[07:40] <svu_tv> !aiglx
[07:40] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:40] <kaolti> Ash-Fox: how do i that?
[07:40] <kaolti> Ash-Fox: i am running ubuntu live cd now
[07:40] <hivemind> kaolti: There are so many tutorials for this online it's not funny.
[07:40] <pandamonium> radar1976, 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1
[07:40] <Ash-Fox> kaolti, I believe it's just a matter of chrooting to your root partition on your system, then doing a 'grub-install'
[07:41] <hivemind> Ash-Fox Yup!
[07:41] <kaolti> Ash-Fox: ok thanks
[07:41] <omar> Hi guys I wanna mount my USB cel phone, how to do that
[07:41] <Ash-Fox> So for example, your root filesystem is mounted in /mnt/blah, chroot /mnt/root, then 'grub-install'
[07:41] <easytiger> fu
[07:42] <Dr_willis> !w32codec
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[07:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <kaolti> Ash-Fox: thanks
[07:42] <franco> Anyone know how to change printing from greyscale to a more "crisp" black for a HP Officejet 4215xi all-in-one printer?
[07:42] <SamJames> #php
[07:42] <Ash-Fox> KDan, can you browse the NFS share from a *nix system just fine?
[07:42] <amx109> hey. im running 6.10 beta. how do i change the mount point for all my partitions without touching /etc/fstab directly? im sure there was a GUI for this somewhere in dapper?
[07:43] <radar1976> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/68995-accessing-secured-folders-samba-win-xp-pro.html
[07:43] <manmadha> he i want to access my computer through remote access from my friend's computer.......But it is asking for user name & password....I did not have samba user name& password .....When i want to set sambapassword it is displaying error...?
[07:43] <manmadha> can any one help me?
[07:43] <dzer0> hate to repeat myself, but I can't get my printer (HP LaserJet 1020) to work. It found it immediately, and always SAYS it's printing the page and then says it finished, but nothing happens on the printer
[07:43] <Ash-Fox> manmadha, you need to be physically at the computer to set the password.
[07:44] <variant> Dr_willis: is it any good?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> variant,  trying to figure out how to use it. :P
[07:44] <Dr_willis> variant,  i got a clip loaded.. and can do things to it. :P
[07:44] <variant> Dr_willis: could you import some files?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> but not sure how to merge/cut/paste yet
[07:44] <variant> Dr_willis: sounds good
[07:44] <manmadha> Ash-Fox, ya ya....i want to create smbpasswd now!
[07:45] <KDan> Ash-Fox: i don't have another linux box on the network... it gives a permission denied when i try to mount it from itself, which probably shouldn't happen, but i'm pretty convinced the problem is on the windows side
[07:45] <arvind_> i need help in setting JAVA_HOME somehow i tired setting it up but it says JAVA_HOME should point to jdk not jre..... how i can resolve this
[07:45] <KDan> doing "sudo mount -t nfs bauer:/usr/shareddir /mnt/test" to mount
[07:45] <Ash-Fox> KDan, that really shouldn't happen
[07:45] <Dr_willis> to make a samba password ---> sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME
[07:46] <KDan> bauer's the name of my machine
[07:46] <KDan> (24 theme...)
[07:46] <dzer0> ok and then I opened up hp-toolbox and it says unsupported printer model, even though I picked the driver that was exactly the name of my printer...
[07:46] <manmadha> Dr_willis, ohh thank u
[07:46] <Dr_willis> manmadha,  :)
[07:46] <Ash-Fox> KDan, could you try with just 127.0.0.1 instead of bauer ?
[07:46] <variant> Dr_willis: you on dapper?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> manmadha,  and by default the homes share is not writeable
[07:46] <KDan> k
[07:46] <Dr_willis> variant,  yes
[07:47] <KDan> same
[07:47] <variant> Dr_willis: Im on edgy.. which is probably the problem
[07:47] <KDan> permission denied
[07:47] <manmadha> okk
[07:47] <Dr_willis> variant,  use the source then. :)
[07:47] <KDan> hmm, weird. ok, so yet another point where it's failing then! :-|
[07:47] <Dr_willis> variant,  the interface  - is a little odd...
[07:47] <Dr_willis> KDan,  you did restart the samba serviceS?
[07:47] <KDan> Dr_willis: this is nfs, not samba
[07:47] <variant> Dr_willis: in a bad way? or like blender?
[07:48] <pandamonium> radar1976, thanks. will check that out
[07:48] <radar1976> it may solve your issue...
[07:48] <pandamonium> although i seem to suspect that too many configuration attempts has spoiled the broth ;)
[07:48] <Dr_willis> variant,  just not easy to get a feel for looks like.. its like all menus :P
[07:48] <pandamonium> i just wish i had a clue with all this :p
[07:49] <burepe> where is the task manager in gnome? I am working in Japanese so I think I am just missing it.
[07:49] <RadiantFire> burepe: system->admin->system monitor (first tab)
[07:50] <LjL> burepe: try pressing ctrl+esc as well
[07:50] <burepe> LjL, nothing with the ctrl+esc
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> who has  idea , why my keyboard ont this laptop (kubuntu 6.06) hangs up working on "mklop" buttons after 5-10-15-20 minutes?
[07:51] <LjL> burepe: oh, well... i'm on KDE, but i thought gnome did that too
[07:51] <ethos_> I was wondering...is it possible to install my ATI cards driver, using wine?
[07:52] <Rasta> someone has sucesfully installed aMSN with apt-get or synaptic, or i have to compile it myself on ubuntu?
[07:52] <burepe> RadiantFire, I am using japanese so the order is different and I think the name is totally different too. Can you tell me what the icon looks like?
[07:52] <SAM_theman> who has "ekiga" ?
[07:52] <ethos_> rasta, you can get that using the add-remove...
[07:52] <LjL> Rasta: it can be installed via APT fine
[07:52] <RadiantFire> burepe: its like a monitor with a cardiac pulse in it
[07:53] <SAM_theman> anyone?
[07:53] <zeroFF> Hello
[07:53] <zeroFF> from Latvia
[07:53] <zeroFF> :D
[07:53] <Alakazam_> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3
[07:54] <burepe> I found it under applications>system tools
[07:54] <burepe> RadiantFire, thanks!
[07:54] <zeroFF> I need some help i got last Ubuntu and D-Link (AirPlusXtremeG) wireless G108 PCI Adapter
[07:54] <burepe> I found it under applications>system tools
[07:54] <zeroFF> whit wireless
[07:55] <refnumzx> i am having problems, the installer locks up after detecting disk and all other hardware on an hp ml350 g4 ideas?  it freezes right after it starts the partitioning utility
[07:55] <Rasta> ethos, with add remove cant find amsn in the list of programs
[07:55] <Rasta> LjL, with apt i get a "E: Couldn't find package amsn" error even before i do a "sudo apt-get update"
[07:55] <LjL> Rasta: do you have Universe enabled?
[07:55] <LjL> !info amsn
[07:55] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[07:55] <ethos_> rasta, make sure you have unsopported checked
[07:55] <LjL> !tell Rasta about universe
[07:56] <zeroFF> some 1 help me ?
[07:56] <Ganesha> variant,
[07:56] <Ganesha> E [30/Sep/2006:18:50:44 +0100]  [Job 22]  No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!
[07:56] <Ganesha> E [30/Sep/2006:18:50:45 +0100]  PID 4698 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 1!
[07:56] <Ganesha> thats the error
[07:56] <zeroFF> :(
[07:56] <BurgerMann> davs med jer
[07:56] <Rasta> ok, the things are getting clearer, ill read that, thank for the help carnales
[07:56] <BurgerMann> oops wrong chan
[07:57] <omar> Hi guys I wanna mount my USB cel phone, how to do that
[07:57] <zeroFF> yo i got problems whit wireless
[07:58] <zeroFF> some 1 help me ?
[07:58] <m1sh-L> i search a howto for xgl (edgy eft) can someone help me
[07:59] <Rasta> omar, wich model? i have a LG MG800c and it gets automatically detected as usb drive
[07:59] <eric__> Hoping somebody could help me figure out how to fix my Gnome/Xgl after I upgraded my ubuntu to edgy ... ?
[07:59] <eric__> I upgraded online and reset.  Now my menu bars are all blank and I can't do anything.  KDE seems unaffected.
[08:00] <omar> Rasta: sony ericsson
[08:00] <burepe> !skype
[08:00] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:01] <eric__> I'm guessing I managed to mess up the app that does the menu bars (top and bottom) for Gnome.  But I'm not sure how to go about fixing it.
[08:01] <omar> Rasta: sony ericsson k300
[08:03] <IRC_> im having a problem with synaptic. everytime i try to open it in the menu it crashes. when i type"sudo synaptic" it says a linvte.so.4 shared object error. what do i do?
[08:03] <arvind__> .
[08:03] <zeroFF> yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:03] <zeroFF> some 1 help me ?
[08:03] <zeroFF> tru lam is hear
[08:04] <orion2012> IRC_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239238
[08:04] <sureshot> what is wrong with the syntax of this like could anyond tell me.. deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[08:05] <Dr_willis> IRC_,  i recall that issue a few weeks ago. you got to reinstall some package..  check orion2012 's url - its a easy fix
[08:05] <shriphani> what is a tape drive ?
[08:06] <ramvi> As I get new kernels, wifi stops working. What do I do? If I go far back (3-4 versions) it works! With the newest in both dapper and edgy - it can't find it. What do I do?
[08:06] <omar> Rasta: sony ericsson k300
[08:06] <orion2012> sureshot: you need a section name after dapper
[08:08] <orion2012> sureshot: try deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dists/dapper
[08:08] <AnneX> Is MEDIC in here?
[08:08] <IRC_> orion2012, Dr_willis: HALLELUJAH! its been broken for a couple weeks! its fixed! thanks!
[08:09] <AnneX> MEDIC3040 U here???
[08:10] <Rasta> omar, there is a driver for that, pl2303, a friend of mine uses it as a USB to Serial Bridge Controller, it should create a device on /dev but i never haved tested it tough, sorry
[08:10] <medic30420> annex, not sure which one
[08:11] <ardchoille> What a moron
[08:12] <Ghostrider> hello
[08:12] <tjb891> does anyone know what that new 3d linux destop that kills OSX and VISTA is, it is like gnome except its all 3D?
[08:13] <ramvi> Does anyone know what do if the wireless adaptor isnt't found in newer kernels?
[08:13] <Rasta> and it takes 3gb of ramm too
[08:13] <Ghostrider> wich adapter?
[08:14] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  never heard of one with a 3d desktop..   seen a few prototypes/videos of such things..  and there was that esperimental  research project a few yrs back
[08:14] <tjb891> yeah, i think it was on youtube, does it work
[08:14] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  that was just an examplke video.. and that looked very useless.. :P
[08:14] <Dr_willis> at least i think it was just an example. :)
[08:15] <tjb891> im chekcing right now, if it works this could be seriously cool
[08:15] <SAM_theman> is there somthing wrong with flash?
[08:15] <SAM_theman> in ubutn u 6.06 ?
[08:15] <TwoZero> tjb891: it's probably xgl from novell, http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/xgl/
[08:15] <Dr_willis> 'somthing is wrong with flash' :)
[08:16] <tjb891> yep, does it work, looks like OSX
[08:17] <Hyperion2010> has anyone else gotten a kernel panic while trying to boot the livecd ?
[08:17] <Hyperion2010> :x
[08:17] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  i was thinking it was just a video they created to show how the  thing 'would' work.. a  concept video
[08:17] <tjb891> all it will do is use alot of RAM
[08:17] <TwoZero> it's not just a concept, their xgl code does work, be it a bit buggy
[08:17] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  wont make people more productive either.
[08:18] <tjb891> less, since they will be writing at angles
[08:18] <Dr_willis> TwoZero,  if you say so..   all i rember is it was funky file management. :P
[08:18] <Hyperion2010> I run xgl compiz on gentoo, and it DOES make you more productive
[08:18] <Hyperion2010> believe it or not ;)
[08:18] <Dr_willis> Hyperion2010,  i use MatchBox window manager.. it does make me more productive.
[08:19] <tjb891> can xgl be run on ubuntu?
[08:19] <Hyperion2010> I think so
[08:19] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[08:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:19] <ubunub> hey, i'm having an issue with my brainmeats being stupid, and i broke my kernel.. can anyone help me chroot into my system from the live cd so i can install the right kernel?
[08:19] <tjb891> its not the repos so i won't checkl it out yet
[08:19] <ProN00b> Hyperion2010, xgl does only one thing for me, it makes me unable to play video
[08:19] <Dr_willis> wiggly windows make me dizzy
[08:19] <ubunub> or perhaps point me toward the appropriate FAQ?
[08:19] <Hyperion2010> hehe, ya, I have another instal for gaming :D
[08:20] <Hyperion2010> so noone has heard of having a kernel panic straight off the livecd
[08:20] <Hyperion2010> apparently I'm special :x
[08:21] <ubunub> i havent ran into that
[08:21] <ubunub> if i want to access my filesystem from the live cd, the proper tool is chroot, correct?
[08:22] <matid> ubunub: It depends on what you want to do
[08:22] <brutopia> what's the best firewall gui for kde/gnome
[08:22] <geronimo> hello :)
[08:22] <Renan_s2> brutopia, I like firestarter
[08:22] <Renan_s2> !info firestarter
[08:22] <matid> ubunub: If you don't need to execute any commands it ok to simply mount the partition and access it as any other folder
[08:22] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[08:23] <geronimo> I've got trouble with my sound
[08:23] <ubunub> well, i installed a kernel that promised realtime audio capabilities, but i think its broken, because my system hangs somewhere in between startup and loading x
[08:23] <geronimo> in fact, I can't hear any sounds apart from bash beeps
[08:23] <ubunub> so i want to apt-get an ubuntu kernel
[08:23] <jcsp> Just upgraded to edgy: booting is now taking a long time: the splash disappears and I see a black screen with a blinking cursor for several minutes -- with dapper booting took less than a minute.
[08:23] <matid> ubunub: Then you'll be better off with chroot 'cause you'll be able to run apt-get, etc.
[08:23] <ubunub> nice
[08:23] <ubunub> thanks
[08:23] <ubunub> afk, rtfm for chroot
[08:23] <ubunub> :D
[08:24] <Pelo> good afternoon folks ?
[08:24] <ubunub> hiya
[08:25] <omar> Rasta: thanx, how can I install it
[08:25] <dsl851> MEDIC u in here??
[08:26] <medic30420> dsl851, yep
[08:26] <Pelo> can ubuntu synchronise files like in windows ? where I have a matching folder on a usb drive for exemple and when I ask the content gets updated ?
[08:26] <Answer> Hello, I have a question about starting wpa_supplicant automatically on boot.  I followed the WPAHowto on the wiki and couldn't make it work.  I tried the wpa_supplicant man page example and it didn't work.  When I run wpa_supplicant manually it is fine, so I made a script /etc/init.d/wpa_launch.sh with the right command line options and linked it to /etc/rcS.d/S42wpa_launch.sh.  This seems to start the daemon fine in the backgr
[08:26] <dsl851> Hey medic its EBZERO from yesterday not sure if u remeber me but u rec. that i use alternate
[08:26] <ArrenLex> !rsync > Pelo
[08:27] <ubunub> i'm an absolute beginer to linux, but im pretty sure you can write a shell script to do anything  you can imagine. :-D
[08:27] <dsl851> Well anyway i took ur advice and used it and it installed perfectly but now when i attmept to load Ubuntu it stalls at hardware check again the install was good though
[08:27] <Pelo> !rsync > Pelo
[08:27] <Pelo> not working
[08:27] <ArrenLex> ubunub: too true. I wrote a rander farm for blender in bash once.
[08:27] <ArrenLex> ubunub: using machines with other operating systems, too. Worked great.
[08:27] <Answer> ubunub: I want a script that greps from the end of the file counting a pattern until it reaches another pattern.  It has to be efficient too.
[08:28] <ubunub> If you can dream it, you can shellscript it.
[08:28] <ubunub> ;-)
[08:28] <Pelo> thanks
[08:28] <omar> Rasta: thanx, how can I install it
[08:28] <ubunub> as for me, i prefer to read man pages and scratch my head wondering what the hell im looking at
[08:28] <ubunub> heh
[08:28] <tyuio> i dreamed jessica alba popping out of my console
[08:29] <bbrazil> ubunub: so, what's your solution to the halting problem?
[08:29] <ubunub> i'm sorry, what was the problem?
[08:29] <Rasta> i havent installed yet dude, sorry, but for i have read it will be a pain to make it work :(
[08:29] <Max_-> how do you unrar???
[08:29] <bbrazil> Answer: sed -n '/start/,/end/p' | wc -l
[08:30] <Ebzero> Err medic u there?
[08:30] <thedash> so, my computer always freezes if the screen saver runs for a half hour or so, how can I fix this?
[08:31] <Ebzero> Has anyone had a Hardware check problem when installing Ubuntu alternate version 6.06.1
[08:31] <ubunub> i know i'm painfully ignorant, but would someone be kind enough to walk me thru chrooting into my file system?
[08:31] <medic30420> ebzero, hey how did everything go?
[08:31] <^punisher> hi
[08:31] <StAfZe6> yo
[08:31] <medic30420> oh
[08:31] <Ebzero> Well the install went well but when i take the cd out and attempt to load it it freezes at hard ware check :-/
[08:32] <tkup> thedash, the screen saver eats a lot of resources. you might want to use one that's less resource intensive or disable the screen saver
[08:32] <biob> any girls here?
[08:32] <Max_-> biob.. lol ;)
[08:32] <tkup> ubunub, what have you tried so far?
[08:32] <medic30420> ebzero, what type of HD do you have?
[08:32] <biob> any hot girls
[08:32] <^punisher> you tell me
[08:32] <Answer> bbrazil: that script just prints everything inbetween the two characters.  I have a very large text file.  somewhere at the bottom there is a START string, and then after that there are many ALERT strings.  I want to know how many ALERT strings are after the last occurrence of START in the text file
[08:33] <ubunub> tkup: i
[08:33] <StAfZe6> don't know
[08:33] <ubunub> err
[08:33] <ubunub> i've tried reading the man page, but i'm a little to dense, and a little to wet behind the ears to make sense of it
[08:33] <ubunub> :D
[08:33] <biob> babes?
[08:33] <Ebzero> What do u mean by what type? :-/ like ntfs or fat32?
[08:33] <kitche> ubunb: sure I do that regularly chrooting that it
[08:33] <medic30420> like SATA or IDE
[08:33] <medic30420> or RAID
[08:34] <biob> Max_-   get any good bjs lately
[08:34] <Answer>  I have a question about starting wpa_supplicant automatically on boot.  I followed the WPAHowto on the wiki and couldn't make it work.  I tried the wpa_supplicant man page example and it didn't work.  When I run wpa_supplicant manually it is fine, so I made a script /etc/init.d/wpa_launch.sh with the right command line options and linked it to /etc/rcS.d/S42wpa_launch.sh.  This seems to start the daemon fine in the background, 
[08:34] <Ebzero> I'm pretty sure i have IDE
[08:34] <GreatBriton> I've got a couple of minor problems with wifi, can i please get a bit of help?
[08:34] <yellowbeard> #hel
[08:34] <ArrenLex> biob: why do you exist?
[08:34] <tkup> ubunub, you first create a directory under which you want your root FS to reside. ex: mkdir /tmp/chroot; afterwards, you issue the command 'chroot /tmp/chroot <cmd>' to use it
[08:34] <medic30420> what is the last thing you see when it boots up
[08:34] <Max_-> heheh
[08:34] <Max_-> how do you unrar a package??.. archiver can't do it...
[08:34] <biob> to look for hot girls and have them blow me
[08:35] <ArrenLex> biob: in the ubuntu help channel?
[08:35] <ubunub> tk: thanks! so the dir i'm creating is in my local filesystem?
[08:35] <kitche> Max_-: archiver can but you need unrar installed
[08:35] <ArrenLex> biob: wow, you ARE desperate.
[08:35] <biob> f u
[08:35] <Ebzero> Well the last thing it does it Stall at the Hard ware check like everything else above it says ok after then hardware check dosnt have anything
[08:35] <biob> anyone want sex?
[08:35] <GreatBriton> you do
[08:35] <Answer> how do I mute him?
[08:35] <kitche> !ops
[08:35] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:35] <biob> come and suck my 10 in cock
[08:35] <Max_-> ohh ok thx kitche
[08:35] <tkup> Answer, your script will only launch in single user mode. if you want it to launch in runlevel 2 3 or 4 try rc{2,3,4}.d etc
[08:36] <bbrazil> Answer: combine with tac
[08:36] <biob> anal sex is the way to go
[08:36] <tkup> ubunub, yea it's a normal dir but the OS takes care of making it look like a root dir using the chroot command
[08:36] <medic30420> ebzero, you are going to have to get the boot log, you are going to have to google to find out where it is, copy it and paste in a paste bin and have someone more skilled look at it
[08:36] <ubunub> tkup: thanks for the help
[08:36] <tkup> np
[08:36] <Max_-> kitche, ... not in apt-get nor in add-remove.. do I have to get the package and compile it myself?
[08:37] <Ebzero> O.O where would i put the Boot Log??
[08:37] <biob> ill tity fuck you and jizz on your tits
[08:37] <medic30420> ebzero, does supergrub disk boot your ubuntu install?
[08:37] <GreatBriton> when i boot into ubuntu, my wifi connection is listed as active in Networking, but I can't access the internet until i deactivate and then reactivate it
[08:37] <biob> sure no one wants sex
[08:37] <Ebzero> well it ssays somthing about GRUB at startup
[08:37] <kitche> Max_-: I found unrar in the repos
[08:37] <SpComb> Windom?
[08:37] <kitche> it's in multiverse Max_-
[08:38] <Max_-> ohh
[08:38] <medic30420> hmm, you are getting really close to having it boot up
[08:38] <Max_-> how do I get there now, kitche ? ..
[08:38] <kitche> Max_-: there is also unrar-free
[08:38] <Ebzero> yea like the loading bar is going then it just stops when it trys to do a hardware check
[08:38] <kupesoft> Anyone from Toronto? Where is a good spot to get a bite to eat,
[08:38] <Ebzero> this is the same prob i had yesterday but when i used the text install it worked good is there a way for the loading to do a text load??
[08:38] <chopchop_> hi, i've just done an dist-upgrade and now cannot start x server. Got this error xauth:  creating new "authority file /home/chop/.serverauth.15418" and "xinit: Server error.". Please help
[08:38] <GreatBriton> also, networkmanager can't find my connection, just says 'No network connection'
[08:39] <Max_-> ohh just got unrar-free
[08:39] <ubunub> kupesoft: go to lick's
[08:39] <medic30420> ebzero, there are log files that are being produced at that point, in order to get them you will have to use a live CD (one that contains a mini linux OS on it) and find that file
[08:39] <max_> nickcheck
[08:39] <ubunub> kupesoft: i'm not sure where in toronto it is, because i've never been the one driving, but licks rules
[08:39] <tkup> chopchop_, what does your tail -20 /var/log/Xorg.log say?
[08:40] <Ebzero> Well im currently on DSL damn small linux could i find it off this?
[08:40] <max_> toronto is in ontario, which is in canada
[08:40] <Max_-> ... damn, I will have to unrar it from windoze......... fun
[08:40] <tkup> chopchop_, pastebin the output
[08:40] <max_> which is probably nothing close to the information you wanted
[08:40] <kupesoft> ubuntub: I'm looking for something a little more, authentic, than a fast food chain
[08:40] <medic30420> ebzero, i know there is, but you would have to manually edit your gdm.config file (or something like that)
[08:40] <SpComb> http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&lr=&q=licks&near=Toronto,+ON,+Canada&sa=X&oi=local&ct=title :)
[08:40] <ubunub> max: i said i wasnt sure where in toronto lick's was, not where toronto was
[08:40] <ubunub> heh
[08:40] <chopchop_> tkup: cannot start x
[08:41] <nalioth> !offtopic
[08:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:41] <chopchop_> tkup: how can i pastbin??
[08:41] <kitche> Max_-: you can try unrar <filename> in a console
[08:41] <will`> Help, the ubuntu LiveCD stops at 'setting up locales' on the boot screen, what can I do to get it to boot?
[08:41] <tkup> chopchop_, topic has a URL
[08:41] <medic30420> ebzero, the biggest issue right now is that you need to boot into linux so you can gather more information about what is breaking
[08:42] <Ebzero> sigh ive made 4 linux cds and none of them work its getting irratating
[08:42] <tkup> !work
[08:42] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:42] <ubunub> lol
[08:42] <Max_-> kitche, unrar doesn't exists... I installed and tried unrar-free.. but it fails...
[08:42] <chopchop_> tkup: something about cannot open /dev/wacom
[08:42] <kitche> tkup: he already said what's not working
[08:42] <GreatBriton> when i boot into ubuntu, my wifi connection is listed as active in Networking, but I can't access the internet until i deactivate and then reactivate it. also, networkmanager can't find my connection, just says 'No network connection'
[08:43] <nalioth> Max_-: install "unrar-nonfree"
[08:43] <kitche> !multiverse > Max_-
[08:43] <medic30420> ebzero http://freashmeat.net/projects/supergrub
[08:43] <will`> Help, the ubuntu LiveCD stops at 'setting up locales' on the boot screen, what can I do to get it to boot?
[08:44] <Ebzero> MEDIC brb il check that out
[08:44] <holzmodem> hi im searching for a wine 0.9.22 deb package, can some paste the url?
[08:44] <Max_-> nalioth,  I won't pay for unraring something I didn't pay for raring :P
[08:44] <medic30420> compac is the 2 worst brand of manufacturers for using non-standard parts, and they don't like to release their proprietary info to the opensource community, so it is hard to find proper drivers
[08:44] <kitche> holzmodem: have you checked winehq for it?
[08:44] <nalioth> Max_-: no, it's free.  unrar-nonfree is a package with non-free codecs in it.  it won't cost YOU anything
[08:46] <GreatBriton> my wifi card uses the rt2500 chipset and i'm running 6.06, if that helps
[08:46] <will`> Help, the ubuntu 6.06LiveCD stops at 'setting up locales' on the boot screen, what can I do to get it to boot?
[08:46] <holzmodem> kitche, there ist only one for 0.9.21
[08:46] <Ebzero> Medic am i supposed to download that to like a floppy or?
[08:46] <mrksht> will`: try Ctrl+C
[08:46] <will`> mrksht: tried that already, didn't work :|
[08:46] <medic30420> i just burned it to a cd, it isn't abig dl
[08:47] <Max_-> nalioth, okay!..  well I added dapper multiverse to my sources.list file.. and I'm actually installing unrar... will see if it does the job.. else I'll get yours
[08:47] <Ebzero> then i run that at the start of UBUNTU?
[08:47] <medic30420> well, it will do several things for you....
[08:47] <Ebzero> like :-/?
[08:47] <medic30420> first it will rewrite your MBR, which doesn't seem to me to be the problem
[08:47] <Ebzero> k
[08:48] <chopchop_> hi, i've just done an dist-upgrade and now cannot start x server. Got this error "xauth:  creating new authority file /home/chop/.serverauth.15418" and "xinit: Server error.". Please help
[08:48] <medic30420> secondly, it puts you in a very simple shell where you can view the output of you system logs, and edit configuration files
[08:49] <medic30420> as far as which config files to edit will depend on what your system logs tell you
[08:49] <Ebzero> What would i have to edit in it?
[08:49] <mrksht> will`: try verbose mode (remove quiet)
[08:49] <medic30420> vi or nano
[08:49] <ubunub> ok, i'm really quite illiterate when it comes to *nix flavored os's, so let me explain my issue as best i can, and see if i make enough sense for someone to help me along.. i installed ubuntu from the livecd, updated it, i even managed to correctly install the nvidia drivers.  as soon as i got everything working together nicely, i did a foolish thing: i installed some weird french kernel that promised realtime audio capabilities.  now my 
[08:49] <will`> mrksht: how do you do that?
[08:49] <mrksht> will`: F5 (I think).. use the keyboard to remove the kernel flags
[08:49] <medic30420> syntax: vi /boot/filename
[08:49] <will`> mrksht: k
[08:50] <medic30420> google vi for commands, or use nano, another text editor
[08:50] <harisund> Hello! I want to add wireless capability to my desktop PC running Ubuntu. Which is the best way? PCI wireless adapter or USB adapter? Which is recognized out of the box by Ubuntu (and cheap) ?
[08:51] <tjb891> do any of you know any good linxu cad programs?
[08:51] <Ebzero> ughh this is gettig confusing so i dl super grub pop it in at startup then i go to syntax: vi/boot/filename and edit what??
[08:51] <kitche> harisund: get a pci card usb is harder to setup, but almost all the cards are supported in linux either 3rd party or native
[08:51] <dummyuno> hello all, first how can I recover my nick if I forgot my password in freenode?
[08:51] <medic30420> hmm, hold on and lets see what google says
[08:51] <Ebzero> k
[08:51] <ubunub> tjb: i think autodesk has a native linux flavor
[08:51] <tjb891> any free cad software?
[08:52] <ubunub> unsure
[08:52] <harisund> kitche: do you mean almost all PCI cards are supported through 3rd party or natively? So USB is harder to setup, as I understand?
[08:52] <Dr_willis> tjb891,  i use qcad
[08:52] <LjL> tjb891: qcad, varkon, pythoncad...
[08:52] <tjb891> thx
[08:52] <GreatBriton> so, can anybody help me?
[08:52] <Peter77> hi, I'm having problems mounting windows partitions
[08:52] <LjL> tjb891: "apt-cache search cad | grep CAD"
[08:52] <tjb891> thx
[08:52] <Peter77> well the HDD in "Computer"
[08:52] <kitche> harisund: well most chipsets are supported usb it's harder to set up since you have to do a couple more things to get it working
[08:52] <harisund> kitche: ok thanks .. that's what I needed to know .. so I am guessing just that laptop cards (inbuild/PCMCIA) are a pain .. a PCI wireless NIC for a desktop should be easily configurable with Ubuntu right? Besides I am quite comfortable with both ndiswrapper and the regular iwconfig commands to get online..
[08:53] <dummyuno> tjb891: http://brlcad.org/
[08:53] <tjb891> thx
[08:53] <GreatBriton> when i boot into ubuntu, my wifi connection is listed as active in Networking, but I can't access the internet until i deactivate and then reactivate it. also, networkmanager can't find my connection, just says 'No network connection'
[08:54] <Peter77> "unable to mount selected volume" how do I view my windows files then?
[08:54] <Answer> tkup: I only run in single user mode.. I don't mind the other run levels.  I added my idea to the bottom of WPA Howto  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo   Post comments if you can.
[08:54] <mrksht> GreatBriton: ip route show
[08:54] <kitche> harisund: well pcmcia works also I never set up the laptop cards before but it seems to be as easy as a desktop
[08:54] <GreatBriton> mrksht: what do you mean?
[08:54] <harisund> kitche: yeah, these days setting up pcmcia cards under Ubuntu also seems to be becoming easier.
[08:54] <medic30420> ebzero, is yours a laptop?
[08:55] <Ebzero> nope
[08:55] <dummyuno> GreatBriton: issue that on a terminal
[08:55] <mrksht> GreatBriton: you obviously need a default route to access the internet. if that's the problem
[08:55] <Rasta> !skype
[08:55] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:55] <Peter77> can anyone help me??
[08:55] <Rasta> !ntfs
[08:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:55] <Rasta> Peter77, look at that
[08:55] <Peter77> thanx
[08:55] <GreatBriton> 10.0.0.0/24 dev ra0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.0.0.1    default via 10.0.0.138 dev ra0
[08:55] <medic30420> run grub and try to boot in vga mode
[08:56] <medic30420> ebzero, the cd is somewhate self documenting, you may need to know what partition ubuntu is on
[08:57] <mrksht> ip route add default via 10.0.0.1 dev ra0
[08:57] <Ebzero> so i run it in VGA mode and it should work O.o
[08:57] <medic30420> if that doesn't work try (using the same supergrub disk) repairing your MBR
[08:57] <GreatBriton> mrksht: should i try that?
[08:57] <ubunub> when you install a new kernel, does grub automatically save the old kernel and info as a failsafe?
[08:57] <dummyuno> guys, how to get my freenode nick dropped if I forgot my password?
[08:57] <mrksht> GreatBriton: no. substitue as needed.
[08:57] <Ebzero> Will i have to use the supergrub at start up everytime?
[08:57] <Answer> dummyuno: msg nickserv help
[08:58] <GreatBriton> mrksht: substitute where?
[08:58] <kitche> dummyuno: it's 90 days you have to wait
[08:58] <mrksht> GreatBriton: using DHCP?
[08:58] <dummyuno> Answer: thanks
[08:58] <medic30420> ebzero, you do have your linux partition ext2 or ext3 right?
[08:59] <Ebzero> Medic is there a choice of ext1 and ext5? cuz i think i might have that
[08:59] <medic30420> ubuntu dapper doesn't support ext1
[08:59] <Ebzero> o
[08:59] <medic30420> you may be thinking of partitions
[09:00] <GreatBriton> mrksht: i think so
[09:00] <Ebzero> wait arent u asking for my partion
[09:00] <medic30420> (hda5 is a very common partition for linux to be on as it is thefirst logical partition (vs physical))
[09:00] <medic30420> ebzero, no for the filesystem, ie fat32, ntfs, ext2, ext3
[09:00] <mrksht> GreatBriton: then check the file /etc/network/interfaces
[09:01] <GreatBriton> mrksht: will do
[09:01] <Ebzero> ahh im so confused is there a way i can check?
[09:01] <medic30420> supergrub
[09:01] <medic30420> it has a partitioning (same program infact) editor
[09:01] <GreatBriton> mrksht: i've got it up, what should i look for?
[09:01] <chopchop_> hi, i got these errors when try to startx "xauth:  creating new authority file /home/chop/.serverauth.15418" and "xinit: Server error.". im using ubuntu dapper if it helps.
[09:01] <medic30420> ebzero, supergrub is your friend
[09:01] <Ebzero> Hrmm will it still work if i get the Floppy version because im using a dsl live disc so i cant get it to a disc
[09:02] <medic30420> ebzero, just make sure your bios boots from floppy before hard disk
[09:02] <mrksht> GreatBriton: iface ... inet dhcp
[09:02] <rockinchado> anyone who can answer a quick question       what is the difference between libgl1-mesa and xlibmesa-gl
[09:02] <kitche> Ebzero: if you are usign dsl you can try fdisk -l /dev/hda and it should show you the partition scheme on that hard drive
[09:02] <GreatBriton> iface ra0 inet dhcp     wireless-essid belkin54g
[09:02] <tw3> Guys one quick question here, where can i get this packages -> http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free , since the web is down now..
[09:02] <medic30420> thanks kitche
[09:03] <GreatBriton> mrksht: iface ra0 inet dhcp
[09:03] <Ebzero> do i type that in terminal
[09:03] <GreatBriton> mrksht: wireless-essid belkin54g
[09:03] <medic30420> ebzero yes, the -l switch means 'list'
[09:03] <BeepAU> hey guys, i'm trying to load xubuntu on this old laptop i found, but i'm having some trouble. i installed it with the text install on the alternate disc. it installed fine, but now when i try to load it up - it says uncompressing linux... ok, booting the kernel. It goes to the splash screen and says loading essential drivers - ok. However, after this it goes back to the first message and...
[09:03] <BeepAU> ...just hangs there. any help?
[09:03] <Ebzero> k
[09:03] <mrksht> GreatBriton: so. does that make sense to you? is the ESSID "belkin54g"
[09:03] <GreatBriton> mrksht: yes, that's right
[09:04] <mrksht> and do you need a WEP key
[09:04] <GreatBriton> mrksht: no, it's unsecured
[09:04] <BHSPitLappy> not smart...
[09:05] <mrksht> GreatBriton: ifconfig ra0 up
[09:05] <mrksht> or ifconfig ra0 10.0.0.2
[09:05] <Ebzero> Medic when i type that it says Cannot open /dev/hda
[09:05] <medic30420> ah, it is not mounted
[09:06] <dummyuno> any experienced user could translate this http://linux.yes.nu/diNovo/?Page=c3VtbWFyeTAx to ubuntu for dummies?
[09:07] <medic30420> ebzero, i think the syntax from the terminal is : mount -t /dev/hda1
[09:07] <kitche> dummyuno: those are kernel config options
[09:07] <reon> matix
[09:07] <dummyuno> kitche: how do I do to apply them
[09:08] <dummyuno> I've got that exact same keyboard and I'm having a hard time
[09:08] <Ebzero> k now what do i type?
[09:08] <kitche> dummyuno: you need the kernel source
[09:08] <Dr_willis> dummyuno,  thats for recompiling the kernel.. and I dont think you want to be messig with that. :)
[09:08] <dummyuno> kitche: is there a howto about that?
[09:09] <kitche> dummyuno: yes there is many howto's on how to do that
[09:09] <medic30420> fdisk -l /dev/hda1
[09:09] <dummyuno> is there a bluetooth channel then?
[09:09] <kitche> Dr_willis: well as long as he backs up the good kernel he'll be fine :)
[09:09] <Ebzero> still says cant open
[09:09] <Database> Gello?
[09:09] <Database> *Hello?
[09:09] <medic30420> did you get an error after the mount command?
[09:09] <Ebzero> nope
[09:10] <Database> How do you edit a file as root in GNOME?
[09:10] <medic30420> ok, mount -t /dev/hda2
[09:10] <dummyuno> kitche: I already have a previous kernel showing up in GRUB so I can take my chances
[09:10] <Ebzero> although i have a little box at the bottom left of my screen that says fd0 unmounted
[09:10] <medic30420> fd0 is your floppy
[09:10] <linlin> are the ubuntu repos down?
[09:10] <mrksht> sudo gedit <file>
[09:11] <kitche> dummyuno: well if you save the kernel you make as the same name of the kernel already there it will overwrite that kernel that you have already made
[09:11] <Ebzero> still cant open hda 2
[09:11] <takuhii> hello everybody I'm having a network config issue with the server edition
[09:11] <medic30420> maybe you have a hard disk problem
[09:11] <Ebzero> hrmm
[09:11] <Ebzero> SHould  try hda3?
[09:11] <medic30420> skip to hda5
[09:11] <jetscreamer> try cat /proc/partitions
[09:12] <dummyuno> kitche: I mean from the update service
[09:12] <Ebzero> still cant open hda5 :-/
[09:12] <mrksht> wtf. mkdir /media/hda2  ;  mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/hda2
[09:12] <Database> Thank you.
[09:12] <takuhii> I guess ill try back later
[09:12] <Ebzero> Maybe im typing it wrong i type it just like this right mount -t /dev/hda5 ?
[09:13] <mipstien> how can you manually uninstall the nvidia-glx drivers?
[09:13] <medic30420> hold on
[09:13] <kitche> dummyuno: yes but if you name the kernel that you compile as the same name of the kernel you havr now that kernel you have now will be gone
[09:13] <medic30420> ebzero, just type mount
[09:14] <kitche> dummyuno: but here is the wiki entry https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild?highlight=%28kernel%29
[09:14] <Ebzero> k
[09:14] <medic30420> should list everything that is mounted
[09:14] <Ebzero> says /dev/root on /type ext2 (rw)
[09:14] <Ebzero> Does that mean its on my ext 2?
[09:15] <dzer0> wtf
[09:15] <mipstien> how can you manually uninstall the nvidia-glx drivers?
[09:15] <dummyuno> kitche: I would be carful with that
[09:15] <dzer0> when I try to sudo, it says sudo: timestamp too far in the future
[09:15] <dzer0> what's that supposed to mean :(
[09:15] <medic30420> go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if you need to copy more than a few lines
[09:15] <dummyuno> kitche: Is there a way to check the config of my current kernel?
[09:16] <medic30420> ebzero, that is your base filesystem that your live cd installed into memory
[09:16] <mipstien> how can you manually uninstall the nvidia-glx drivers?
[09:16] <Nookie^> hi! is there any way to create own ubuntubased distro but not live cd.. i want to modify it more then just change icons and usplash and add apps?
[09:17] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:17] <Dr_willis> Nookie^,  its doable.. now if its 'trivial to do' is a bigger problem. :P
[09:17] <medic30420> ebzero, type: mkdir /media/hda2  ;  mount -t /dev/hda2 /media/hda2
[09:17] <kitche> dummyuno: well if you get the kernel source it will probably have the same config, but you can check /boot for a .config file
[09:18] <medic30420> then type mount agian
[09:18] <dzer0> also I'm a linux noob, how do I remove a directory that has files in it?
[09:18] <kitche> dzer0: what directory since you might delete a system-critcal directory
[09:19] <dzer0> kitche: just some old files
[09:19] <Nookie^> press delete on your keyboard after selecting folder =)
[09:19] <kitche> dzer0: well you can do rmdir <directory>
[09:20] <kitche> or do it like Nookie^ said
[09:20] <dzer0> root@ChaseServ1:/home/chase# rmdir foo2zjs
[09:20] <dzer0> rmdir: foo2zjs: Directory not empty
[09:20] <dzer0> :/
[09:20] <medic30420> dzer0 : man rmdir
[09:20] <Ebzero> all in one line?
[09:20] <Neo8750> i see debian wants to change firefox's name will ubuntu follow since its debian based?
[09:20] <Nookie^> dzer0: rm -rf foldername
[09:20] <medic30420> if you use a ";" it tells bash to treat it like two lines
[09:20] <kitche> Neo8750: well they are chaning the name because they have to
[09:21] <Ebzero> when i type it all in one it says Cannot create driectory '/media/hda2': No such file or directory
[09:21] <kitche> Neo8750: but debian is not gonna do it how firefox license says they are gonna rename it totally
[09:21] <mrksht> dzer0: rm -ir foo2zjs
[09:22] <mrksht> y/n to answer the questions
[09:23] <dummyuno> kitche: thanks on the pointers, let me get to work on it
[09:27] <linlin> i need to install the zlib package
[09:27] <linlin> how do i do this
[09:27] <steamR> linlin: Enable all repositories in synaptic and search for it...
[09:27] <willh1234> hey
[09:28] <gio> hi everybody. i just upgraded my ubuntu causing an error while booting: can't find /sbin/init
[09:28] <linlin> i did, then i installed it, and it doesnt appear to be anwhere
[09:28] <LjL> linlin: to install the zlib library, "sudo aptitude install zlib1g"
[09:28] <willh1234> i need some help setting up my broadcom wifi card
[09:28] <LjL> linlin: but if you're trying to *compile* something, you need the *development* package, in which case "sudo aptitude install zlib1g-dev"
[09:28] <gio> there is in fakt no /sbin/init and i dont know how to get it there
[09:28] <steamR> linlin: its a library. Should be under /usr/lib
[09:28] <willh1234> i followed the tutorial here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=ndiswrapper+howto
[09:29] <willh1234> and it sorta works
[09:29] <willh1234> it finds my network but i dunno how to connect
[09:29] <steamR> linlin: try do a sudo ldconfig -v | grep zlib
[09:30] <medic30420> ebzero, try knoppix
[09:31] <Ebzero> Typing knoppix?
[09:31] <burepe> I installed skype but I am getting this error when I start it and it never appears. Any suggestions? "burepe@gochagocha:~$ skype
[09:31] <burepe> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x08b9cf88 ***
[09:31] <burepe> 
[09:31] <burepe> "
[09:31] <medic30420> no, it is a different distro
[09:31] <Ebzero> for my linux
[09:31] <medic30420> yep
[09:31] <Ebzero> Like replacing Ubuntu with it?
[09:31] <tjb891> does anyone know if americas army still has linux support?
[09:31] <dummyuno> kitche: would it be a safer route to file a bug in Launchpad?
[09:32] <steamR> tjb891: off course
[09:32] <kitche> tjb891: not sure I know that they didn't
[09:32] <medic30420> yep, or you can reinstall ubuntu, but the server version (no gui)
[09:32] <Severian> Howdy, on Edgy, startup  and shutdown just show a pretty screen and no details.  I would like to turn off that behavior, but I can't think of what to look for.  Any suggestions?
[09:32] <kitche> dummyuno yeah probably easier
[09:32] <tjb891> i thought they discontinued it but mabey it runs in wine
[09:32] <Ebzero> but if i have the server verision is it the same or tottaly differnt
[09:32] <kitche> tjb891: they did discontinued it
[09:32] <tjb891> can it run in wine?
[09:32] <medic30420> ebzero, the underlying OS is the same, but you will have to manually install the gui
[09:32] <mrksht> Severian: remove "quiet" from the kernel flags
[09:33] <Severian> mrksht, Thank you
[09:33] <Ebzero> Should i try the supergrub thing i still havnt tryed that
[09:33] <steamR> there is AA ports u know
[09:33] <medic30420> yeah, try that
[09:33] <dummyuno> how do I umount drives so I can use qtparted on my ntfs partitions?
[09:34] <medic30420> supergrub is your friend, just remember that the guy that wrote it doesn't speak english very well
[09:34] <Ebzero> which one though the img insiade a bz2 or the image?
[09:35] <medic30420> hmm, you can't burn a cd since you are already on a live cd now right
[09:35] <willh1234> can any1 help me set up my broadcom wifi card?
[09:35] <Ebzero> I can make it a floppy though
[09:35] <medic30420> http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=2
[09:36] <MartinTang> hey
[09:36] <MartinTang> anyone know how to install shockwave on ubuntu?
[09:37] <kitche> MartinTang: it's called flashplayer-nonfree
[09:37] <MartinTang> how can I get it? I am an extreme newbie with ubuntu
[09:38] <lucaferr> who is lilo?
[09:38] <medic30420> ebzero, i am downloading the floppy image and will try to send it to you unzipped
[09:38] <kitche> !flash
[09:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:39] <kitche> MartinTang: it's flashplugin-nonfree and is in multiverse
[09:39] <Ebzero> medic which ID though
[09:40] <lucaferr> who is lilo?!
[09:40] <Ebzero> Which id though theres like alot perhaps 89?
[09:40] <Ebzero> oo
[09:40] <MartinTang> k
[09:40] <Jowi> lucaferr: http://freenode.net/news.shtml
[09:40] <kitche> lucaferr: he was the guy that ran freenode and owned it
[09:40] <lucaferr> oh
[09:41] <Ebzero> MEDIC ILL BRB I GOTTA GET SOMTHING BE back in like 5 minutes
[09:41] <Ebzero> hold on im having prob
[09:41] <Ebzero> Medic i gotta go fo a sec
[09:42] <medic30420> no prob
[09:42] <Ebzero> MY mircs being dumb hold on
[09:42] <Ebzero> \
[09:42] <Ebzero> MEDIC ILL BRB I GOTTA GET SOMTHING BE back in like 5 minutes
[09:42] <Ebzero> brb
[09:42] <ataxic> i thought medic as in "vietnam movie being hit by vietcong at night in a rainy jungle"
[09:42] <radar1976> ls
[09:42] <radar1976> opps
[09:42] <Ebzero> .
[09:42] <Ebzero> .
[09:42] <Ebzero> .
[09:42] <Ebzero> .
[09:42] <LoRez> Warning: `Ebzero' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[09:42] <Ebzero> .
[09:42] <Ebzero> .
[09:42] <Rez> Warning: `Ebzero' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[09:43] <kitche> Ebzero: don't do that
[09:43] <ataxic> what an idiot
[09:43] <Ebzero> Bah my mirc was acting up
[09:43] <dsl1000> Medic ill brb
[09:44] <dsl1000> i gotta get somthing
[09:44] <ebzero> MEDIC BRB
[09:45] <ataxic> can you type without caps?
[09:45] <jungar> I apologize if this question has been asked 234234 times but despite 10+ years of linux experience I don't know the answer
[09:45] <jungar> how does one control the time/date stamp format in dmesg
[09:45] <medic30420> ataxic, dude he can't even get his computer to boot, one thing at a time
[09:45] <ataxic> medic30420: lol
[09:46] <ataxic> or control mirc
[09:46] <jungar> so ubuntu dmesg / syslog shows human readable date/timesteamps
[09:46] <jungar> is it a kernel configuration thing, or ?
[09:46] <printk> jungar: that would be with syskolgd i think
[09:46] <mrksht> yes
[09:46] <printk> er sysklogd
[09:46] <mrksht> kernel
[09:46] <jungar> so, it's a kernel rebuild then?
[09:47] <jungar> or can it be done with sysctl ?
[09:47] <jungar> [17327326.304000]   is just *ugly*
[09:47] <dede> Hi all
[09:47] <linlin> i need a program iodine but i cant get it in the package manager
[09:47] <mrksht> dont't think so.. as I remember some timestamp stuff last time I made kernel
[09:47] <printk> I'm pretty sure that it's the system logger who does the tiemstamp
[09:47] <printk> not the kernel
[09:47] <printk> in dmesg
[09:48] <printk> You won't even have a dmesg without a system logger
[09:48] <jungar> jah, it's probalby just syslog.conf or whatever then, huh
[09:48] <Sktfeelssleepy> !hd
[09:48] <dede> May somebody can help to install (or startup) an edgy on a P5B asus motherboard ?
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <dede> Please....
[09:48] <Sktfeelssleepy> !mount
[09:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:48] <printk> jungar: yah something in there.... I'd start with that... man sysklogd or syslog.conf
[09:49] <ompaul> dede, please go to #ubuntu+1 that is the edgy channel
[09:49] <Severian> dede, have you tried the alternate installer version.  It works on a bunch of systems that the normal installer has problems with.
[09:50] <jamtits> !nvidia
[09:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:50] <Sktfeelsdapper> I need to figure out how to mount my second hard drive onto the desktop, so I can access it easier.
[09:50] <Sktfeelsdapper> Instead of going all the way through media to get to it.
[09:52] <mrksht> just make a symbolic link??
[09:52] <printk> Sktfeelsdapper: you running gnome?  I believe if you go to System->Preferences->Removable Drives and Media
[09:52] <StAfZe6> sup?
[09:52] <^punisher> sup
[09:52] <printk> you can set it up there
[09:52] <Sktfeelsdapper> Symbolic link??!?
[09:52] <mrksht> ln -s /media/seconddrive /home/skt/Desktop/2nd
[09:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> Did you help me yesterday? Haha
[09:53] <mrksht> me? nope.. I new here
[09:54] <willh1234> hey
[09:54] <willh1234> whenever i try to install any packages i get the error broken cache
[09:54] <^punisher> tell me
[09:54] <willh1234> how do i fix this?
[09:54] <StAfZe6> good
[09:55] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:55] <radar1976> anyone use powerbook g4?
[09:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> Sweet it worked.
[09:56] <ebzero> medic u here
[09:56] <Severian> radar1976, I use one, but not for Ubuntu.  I put Ubuntu on iMacs, though.
[09:56] <medic30420> yep
[09:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> is it possible to just remount it to the desktop instead of making a link?
[09:56] <ebzero> soeey about that
[09:56] <ebzero> Family came over and i had to say hi and what not
[09:57] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:57] <medic30420> no prob, do you have a floppy?
[09:57] <ebzero> Yes
[09:57] <medic30420> did you get the file?
[09:57] <ebzero> Err i wasnt sure which one so i didnt get one yet
[09:57] <radar1976> grrr  I need a powerbook g4 with ubuntu
[09:57] <mrksht> Sktfeelsdapper: you can fiddle with /etc/fstab
[09:57] <willh1234> whenever i try to install any packages i get the error broken cache how do i fix this ?!?
[09:57] <Overand> radar1976: i have one
[09:57] <Overand> what's the question?
[09:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ahhh fstab.
[09:57] <ebzero> Sould i get the one with IMG only or IMG inside of BZD?
[09:57] <radar1976> I want to get the synaptics trackpad working correctly
[09:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just got my second hd to actually be readable to ME.
[09:58] <Overand> radar1976: I didn't have any problems- what do you want it to do?
[09:58] <ebzero> err bz2
[09:58] <radar1976> it works but I want scrolloing....
[09:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> My second hd was ntfs
[09:58] <Overand> radar1976: that's nmot a feature of the trackpad itself, that's more or less entirely driver based
[09:58] <GSF> hello, I've installed beryl & XGL following wiki instructions. however XGL gets killed with a shift+backspace -- that's kinda annoying while chatting. I know that running 'DISPLAY=:0 xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"' fixes it, but how to fix it during boot?
[09:58] <medic30420> ebzero, i m sending you the file
[09:58] <radar1976> Overand I know that...
[09:58] <Overand> I have no idea if tere are linux drivers that enable two-finger scroll or side-of-the-pad scroll
[09:58] <ebzero> Threw what?
[09:59] <medic30420> irc
[09:59] <Overand> but i would suggest checking the ubuntu wiki and the ubuntu forums on that one
[09:59] <medic30420> what client are you using?
[09:59] <radar1976> so you don;t have that working then...
[09:59] <ebzero> uhh nIRC
[09:59] <radar1976> dammit
[09:59] <ompaul> !mouse
[09:59] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:59] <Overand> radar1976: nope
[09:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> nIRC?
[09:59] <ebzero> Damn small linux's version of it
[09:59] <Overand> radar1976: i ahve it working on the OSX side, with the 'iScroll' driver
[09:59] <stu_> does anyone have this picture by any chance, the link is broken:  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45097
[09:59] <Severian> radar1976, I always use a plug in mouse.  I thing the trackpads are useless.  Sorry, I can't help you on that.
[09:59] <Overand> doesn't help much =] 
[09:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> Sweet mother of pearl there's a mIRC a like?
[10:00] <medic30420> hmm, well anyways, it is sgd_0.9...ENGLISH_floppy.img.bz..
[10:00] <radar1976> I use iScroll also
[10:00] <radar1976> but want it working fully in ubuntu
[10:00] <Overand> radar1976: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82850&highlight=touchpad
[10:00] <dummyuno> anyone has dealed with the qtparted "greyed out" menus?
[10:00] <radar1976> Overand read that thread already
[10:00] <radar1976> nothing is working
[10:00] <thedash> so, my computer always freezes if the screen saver runs for a half hour or so, how can I fix this?
[10:00] <Overand> yeah
[10:00] <Overand> so it would seem
[10:01] <medic30420> download it , extract it, and then format the floppy..
[10:01] <medic30420> fdformat /dev/fd0
[10:01] <eean> how do you force apt-get to run the post-install scripts?
[10:01] <GSF> Sktfeelsdapper: xchat
[10:01] <Sktfeelsdapper> Now if I did this right, I should be able to put all my extra things in my other hd.
[10:01] <eean> my postgresql database got messed up and apt-get isn't reinitializing it on reinstalls
[10:01] <ebzero> Medic im not finding that one i dont se it O.o
[10:01] <Overand> actually radar1976 http://lanpartei.de/~stefan/
[10:01] <Severian> radar, I use a Logitech USB mouse and it just works with no intervention required.  What kind of problem are you seeing.  Does your mouse not work, or is it jumpy or what?
[10:01] <Overand> take a look at what he says
[10:02] <Overand> he says in the latest version of the synaptics driver it's supporteed
[10:02] <medic30420> http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=2
[10:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> to remove a symbolic link, is it rm -s /home/skt/desktop?
[10:02] <ebzero> Yeah im there i just dont see that one
[10:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> Or would that screw everything up?
[10:02] <mrksht> thedash: try setting screensaver to "Blank"
[10:02] <ebzero> Ahh brb Medi
[10:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'd really like to mount it on my desktop period.
[10:03] <mrksht> thedash: (temporary solution..)
[10:03] <shmulik> I'm having difficulty getting Atheros card to work on this MacBook Pro.  Do I just need madwifi-ng?
[10:03] <thedash> yeh I know
[10:03] <medic30420> look for the one that has been downloaded the most
[10:04] <brainsik> Sktfeelsdapper: to delete a symlink just rm it
[10:04] <hangfire> I know gcc compiles c programs, what what compiles c++ on ubuntu?
[10:04] <LiraNuna> g++
[10:04] <Lam_> in Synaptic, there's an option to "Completely remove" a program, including configuration files.  is there a command line argument i can use in apt to do the same?
[10:04] <radar1976> Overand what package is that for?
[10:05] <LiraNuna> hangfire, g++
[10:05] <thedash> do SATA drives use the same bridge-size as IDE drives?
[10:05] <hangfire> LiraNuna, I tried compiling with g++ filename.cpp -o filename and it didnt work
[10:05] <Overand> radar1976: i don't entirely understand your question
[10:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> so i would have to unmount it, create an fstab entry for it, and the mount it onto my desktop?
[10:05] <LiraNuna> hangfire, what are the errors it throws?
[10:05] <hangfire> g++ command not found
[10:05] <LjL> hangfire: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[10:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> That sounds easy, let's see how easy it is.
[10:06] <LiraNuna> hangfire, apt-get install g++ make
[10:06] <hangfire> ok, thanks LjL
[10:06] <hangfire> ok, thx Lira Nuna
[10:06] <LiraNuna> np
[10:06] <Lam_> in Synaptic, there's an option to "Completely remove" a program, including configuration files.  is there a command line argument i can use in apt to do the same?
[10:07] <ebzero> bahh back
[10:07] <brainsik> Lam_: you need to "purge" the package
[10:07] <LiraNuna> hangfire, g++ can also compile .c code in .cpp mode
[10:07] <LiraNuna> La_PaRCa, apt-get remove program
[10:07] <brainsik> Lam_: either "dpkg --purge packagename" or "aptitude purge packagename"
[10:07] <mrksht> Lam_: apt-get --purge <package>
[10:07] <LiraNuna> --purge.. he wanted to remove
[10:07] <ebzero> Medic u still here
[10:08] <valentin__> hello
[10:08] <medic30420> yep
[10:08] <valentin__> alguien habla espaol
[10:08] <Lam_> brainsik, mrksht: thanks
[10:08] <valentin__> saludos
[10:08] <Jowi> !es
[10:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:08] <Ertaius> dobri deng
[10:08] <valentin__> ok,
[10:08] <valentin__> grax xD
[10:08] <ebzero> sorry once again had to get some stuff any way im download the IMG inside the Bz2 right?
[10:08] <radar1976> just trying to understand which package that would contain the synaptics driver
[10:08] <radar1976> for xorg
[10:08] <willh1234> how do i fix a broken cache?
[10:09] <medic30420> yep, extract it, and format the floppy
[10:09] <Ertaius> does anyone know much about linux on G4 powerbooks?
[10:09] <medic30420> as far as extracting it i am not sure what is installed on dsl
[10:10] <Kragnerac> Anyone else having problems trying to upgrade to Edgy Eft via the upgrade manager?
[10:10] <ebzero> Err what should i extract with or is that what u dont know
[10:11] <mrksht> !cache
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <NutsOfSteel> i am trying to make a script that logs onto a server and executes some ssh commands. i don't want the script to use any passwords whatsoever, so I created a public/private key pair. everything works fine, except that the script still needs a password the first time it gets executed. do you know what I should do to avoid that?
[10:11] <yarddog> Kragnerac, use apt-get to upgrade
[10:11] <burritoortega> anyone knows a good app for cataloguing (music) cds?
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> burritoortega, amarok?
[10:11] <burritoortega> i found gcstar but the one thing it doesn't catalogue is cds
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> ah nevermind
[10:12] <burritoortega> Admiral_Chicago: isn't amarok a music player?
[10:12] <LjL> burritoortega: "apt-cache search cd catalog". shows a few interesting packages
[10:13] <burritoortega> LjL: thanks i'll check
[10:13] <Byan> hey, how would I go about setting up a DNS server. I have a freedns that I can NS forward from. I want to have my own subdomains. like, you.me.freedns.org
[10:13] <Jowi> NutsOfSteel: when you create the keypair, don't use a passphrase maybe....?
[10:14] <Ignite_> Anyone know when Edgy is due out?
[10:14] <LjL> !schedule
[10:14] <NutsOfSteel> Jowi: i've already done this, but the problem is that it *still* wants the account's passphrase
[10:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:14] <caimex> I'm trying to set up gnump3d and everything seems to work but I can't find an external ip address that works, I tried ifconfig but this goves me no extrnal ip's. I got my external ip's from one of those websites and it wont work either.
[10:15] <Ignite_> thanks LjL, I know it's in October, just not exactly when. :-)
[10:15] <LjL> Ignite_: supposedly 26
[10:15] <Ignite_> Aww :-(
[10:15] <burritoortega> anyone knows a good app for cataloguing (music) cds, with auto-retrieval of cddb data, and all that?
[10:15] <Jowi> NutsOfSteel: http://www.math.ualberta.ca/imaging/snfs/passwordless.html
[10:15] <ebzero> MEDIC u stilll here
[10:15] <Ignite_> burritoortega, try Amarok
[10:15] <caimex> anyone knows how to find the external IP?
[10:15] <NutsOfSteel> thanks!
[10:16] <caimex> exaile is also good
[10:16] <caimex> and Listen
[10:16] <caimex> both gnome
[10:16] <Steven|PC> evening
[10:16] <Byan> >_<
[10:16] <Byan> everyone ignore me, of course
[10:17] <burritoortega> caimex: those are music players, you say one could use them as cd cataloguers only?
[10:17] <burritoortega> caimex: let me see
[10:17] <sharp> i have a server that won't start... kernel panic... somthing about VFS
[10:17] <LjL> !patience
[10:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:17] <caimex> amroK is a music player as well?
[10:17] <Steven|PC> anyone else got the problem while installing the 6.10 beta that the installation freezes at 94% (updating-grub). crc check of the cd seems fine
[10:17] <Overand> Steven|PC: what filesystem are you using?
[10:17] <clocks> Does anyone here have any experience with firehol?
[10:17] <Steven|PC> r3
[10:18] <LjL> Byan: i'm not sure setting up a DNS server is something many people do. so perhaps rather than thinking everyone's ignoring you, it might just be that nobody who's looking knows.
[10:18] <Steven|PC> didnt change anything :)
[10:18] <burritoortega> caimex: yeah and i asked the same about amarok  :)
[10:18] <Byan> LjL: yeah, I know, I wasn't being exactly serious
[10:18] <Overand> Byan: personally, I wouldn't like to run my own DNS server
[10:18] <Overand> I'd use a service like zoneedit
[10:18] <gi00> anyone know about booting problems due to /sbin/init?
[10:18] <Overand> Running your own DNS server is fine, but I don't get paid enough. =] 
[10:19] <mipstien> how can you manually uninstall the nvidia-glx drivers?
[10:19] <Dr_willis> gi00,  if the system cant start init, then its dieing very eary on.. perhaps it cnt find the root filesystem,. or similer issues
[10:19] <whurley> hi all, when you install a default ubuntu install 5.10 and want to run "sed -i -e "s/breezy/dapper/" /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get --purge dist-upgrade" it gives perms denied. What's the best way to solve this (i.e. since ubuntu uses sudo and my passed for the user I created doesn't work)
[10:20] <phanter> hi there. how can I remove vmware-player?
[10:20] <Byan> Overand: I am using http://freedns.afraid.org/, but the problem is that I need to get 7 or so computers on there, so it would be convenient to use my own DNS
[10:20] <LjL> phanter: "sudo aptitude remove vmware-player"
[10:20] <eean> whurley: boot up in single user mode and change passwords
[10:20] <Byan> well, really, 3 computers, with 1 of them having 5 public IP's
[10:21] <burritoortega> anyone knows a good app for cataloguing (music) cds, with auto-retrieval of cddb data, multi-platform (including win32) if possible?
[10:21] <darkanyel> hi, how can i change the idiom of the diccionary in ubuntu?
[10:21] <almimoni> hi every body, how ti install c compiler?
[10:21] <gi00> Dr_willis: the boot process detects the file system and then stops because of the missing init file
[10:21] <almimoni> hi every body, how to install c compiler?
[10:21] <burritoortega> almimoni: apt-get install build-essentials
[10:21] <Bazzi> almimoni: install the "build-essential" package
[10:21] <almimoni> ok thanx
[10:21] <burritoortega> almimoni: don't flood the channel every 3 seconds please  :)
[10:22] <Jowi> whurley: you can also boot up in recovery/singleuser and add your user to the /etc/sudoers file or add your user to the admin group
[10:22] <mipstien> how can you manually uninstall the nvidia-glx drivers?
[10:22] <Byan> burritoortega: if you find something handly like that tell me.
[10:22] <eean> when reinstalling a package (postgresql) it doesn't re-create /etc and /var files. How do I get it to do so?
[10:22] <Steven|PC> mh, so i take the problem is on my end
[10:22] <gi00> mipstien: via apt-cache search glx you can find the packets
[10:23] <mipstien> do i just delete them?
[10:23] <stu_> how can I change the colour of the window bars in the task bar? if I make the task bar transparent with a dark colour I cant see the text cos its also black and then when I select a window it highlights white
[10:23] <thedash> are SATA jumpers different size than IDE jumpers?
[10:24] <stu_> wtf do u need a jumper on a sata disk for?
[10:24] <gi00> mipstien: no, apt-get remove packet-name and than they are removed
[10:24] <mipstien> gi00 that doesn't work it gives me an error
[10:24] <whurley> thanks all
[10:24] <Steven|PC> or would changing the filesystem from ext3 to ext2 change anything for me?
[10:25] <mipstien> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:25] <mipstien>  nvidia-glx
[10:25] <mipstien> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:25] <thedash> stu_:: to limit the transfer rate to 150 Mbps instead of 300
[10:25] <stu_> ic
[10:25] <Otacon22> how can i open my webcam with mplayer?
[10:25] <ifrozen> how to reset enviromental variables without reset?
[10:25] <mikm[laptop] > Otacon22 there should be a device /dev/video or /dev/videox
[10:25] <Severian> stu, you don't use the jumpers to set the drive number, but to set options.  For example, some drives have a jumper to set SATA-150 mode for controllers that need it.
[10:25] <mipstien> gi00 it gives me errors would you care to take a look at them?
[10:26] <mipstien> !post
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about post - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Otacon22> mikm[laptop] , yes but with wich parameters?
[10:26] <mikm[laptop] > Otacon22 AT the terminal, type 'ls /dev/video*'
[10:26] <mikm[laptop] > See what comes up
[10:26] <thedash> Severian:: do you perhaps know if they are the same or different sizes then?
[10:26] <mikm[laptop] > Otacon22 what numbers, etc.
[10:26] <mikm[laptop] > Otacon22 For example, I get a /dev/video and /dev/video0
[10:27] <ompaul> !enter
[10:27] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:27] <Otacon22> yes
[10:27] <Otacon22> but
[10:27] <Otacon22> i am doing it from a ssh connection
[10:27] <Otacon22> with x forward
[10:27] <Severian> It depends on the drive, thedash.  There are two common sizes.  One is about half the size of the other.
[10:27] <Otacon22> say me
[10:27] <Otacon22> only hte parameter for mplayer
[10:27] <thedash> Severian:: k, thanks
[10:27] <Otacon22> then i will see devices
[10:27] <rod> hi. can anybody explain what is the edgy-proposed repository ?
[10:27] <mipstien> what is the web page to post large text?
[10:27] <mikm[laptop] > Otacon22 the parameter is the video device
[10:28] <Otacon22> only?
[10:28] <ompaul> Otacon22, please put your full comment on one line, and then press enter, thanks ;-)
[10:28] <Otacon22> mplayer /dev/video0 ?
[10:28] <Otacon22> o videox
[10:28] <mikm[laptop] > Otacon22 yes
[10:28] <mipstien> !help
[10:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:28] <profoX`> Hey guys, is it safe to use automatix?
[10:29] <printk> !automatix
[10:29] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:29] <rod> what is the edgy-proposed repository ?
[10:29] <ompaul> profoX`, you got your answer there - we don't suggest it - we suggest documented methods
[10:29] <ompaul> rod, wrong channel #ubuntu+1
[10:29] <Frustrated_Noob> hola minna
[10:30] <mipstien> what is the web page to post large text ?
[10:30] <printk> !paste
[10:30] <Otacon22> mikm[laptop]  ls return    /dev/video  /dev/video0
[10:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:30] <ompaul> mipstien, paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:30] <kitche> kmipstien: there is many pastebin.ca pastebin.com and couple others\
[10:30] <mipstien> ty i couldn't remember the paste thing :P
[10:30] <Frustrated_Noob> Okay, I have just installed ubuntu, and i seem to be having a problem running exe files.  i'm obviously a noob, so please, tell me what I must do to alleviate my frustration on this matter.
[10:30] <KeithWeisshar> what's the release date for edgy 6.10
[10:31] <bthornton> In Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS, what "ties" a network interface name (i.e. eth1, eth2) to a particular piece of hardware?
[10:31] <kitche> Frustrated_Noob: you have to use wine to use exe files
[10:31] <printk> bthornton: the kernel driver
[10:31] <bthornton> printk: so if I wanted to switch, say, eth2 to eth0, how would I go about doing that?
[10:31] <profoX`> printk, ompaul: yes, but I heard that people on #ubuntu say that automatix is a piece of cr.. and I was just wondering why you thought so. I don't use it myself, because I prefer to have full control over what I'm doing, but there was a big discussion going on in a localized ubuntu forum about automatix....
[10:31] <KeithWeisshar> what new features does 6.10 have
[10:31] <bthornton> I checked my aliases and don't see any for "eth[x] "
[10:31] <Frustrated_Noob> wine?  let me guess, a program that runs windows executables
[10:32] <kitche> Frustrated_Noob: you are correct
[10:32] <profoX`> printk, ompaul: you = the ubuntu channel in general
[10:32] <Faust_VIII> hi
[10:32] <Otacon22> mikm[laptop] ,
[10:32] <printk> profoX`: never used it.  Never seen a reason to use it.  And I know it's "use at your un-risk"  I.e.  it's not supported in here.  so it's probably bad (tm)
[10:32] <Otacon22> Playing /dev/video.
[10:32] <Otacon22> File not found: '/dev/video'
[10:32] <Otacon22> Failed to open /dev/video
[10:32] <Frustrated_Noob> kitche: Where can I get it?
[10:32] <mikm[laptop] > Otacon22 ok, try 'mplayer /dev/video' and 'mplayer /dev/video0' and see what works.
[10:32] <Otacon22> Playing /dev/video0.
[10:32] <Otacon22> File not found: '/dev/video0'
[10:32] <Otacon22> Failed to open /dev/video0
[10:32] <LjL> !paste
[10:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:32] <ompaul> profoX`, it breaks things now and again - and it is offtopic
[10:33] <mipstien> i would like some help with somenoe checking into this error(s) i get on tryin to uninstall nvidia-glx http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25345/
[10:33] <ompaul> Otacon22, you have been asked to (A) use the paste bin (B) not to put out short multiple lines please don't do that again
[10:33] <kitche> FrustratedNoob: it's in the universe repo and the package is called wine
[10:33] <Faust_VIII> just one question, how easy is it to remove a partition ?
[10:33] <eyedol> my usb mouse breaks after sometime unless I reboot before it works again, please what might be the cause
[10:33] <ompaul> Faust_VIII, sudo fdisk /partition/name
[10:33] <printk> bthornton: well if it's eth2 than eth0 and eth1 are already taken.... i guess disable those modules from being loaded to force the one you want to be eth0? :P  Other than that I have no clue, I've never had a reason to change the interface name
[10:33] <Faust_VIII> thanks
[10:33] <SpComb> Faust_VIII: remove? Easy. But partitions are at fixed offsets, and you can't move them around
[10:34] <mikm[laptop] > Otacon22 It's probably a problem with doing it over ssh
[10:34] <Faust_VIII> yes, i wanted to install ubuntu today on my usb HDD but won't work
[10:34] <Faust_VIII> now i'll install ist on my normal HDD
[10:34] <eyedol> my machine specs are Toshiba Satellite M70
[10:34] <eyedol> ATI Express 200m
[10:34] <eyedol> Dapper
[10:34] <ompaul> Faust_VIII, the install will look after it
[10:34] <ompaul> !enter > eyedol
[10:34] <ompaul> eyedol, please read the comment from the channel bot
[10:34] <bthornton> printk: Yeah.. the reason I ask is because I've switched NICs (well, entire motherboard, to be exact) and each time I do that, it assigns the new NIC to the next eth[x]  interface.  However, the problem is that many of my configs still refer to eth[x-1] .
[10:34] <gi00> misptien: it shouldnt
[10:35] <Arrick> what is the command to find out the speed of your propcessor in breezy?/
[10:35] <printk> Arrick: cat /proc/cpuinfo or dmesg
[10:35] <Frustrated_Noob> kitche: So i need to enter the universe, find the repo, and then find wine?
[10:35] <printk> i'm sure there are more ways
[10:35] <ompaul> Arrick, a couple of ways lshw | less is one
[10:35] <Faust_VIII> hmm but i don't get why it doesn't work on my usb hdd, a message appears which says "there isn't enough space for the partition"
[10:35] <Faust_VIII> but there is much space left, about 50GB
[10:35] <Arrick> thanks
[10:36] <ompaul> !install > Faust_VIII
[10:36] <eyedol> has anyone fall a victim of this before?
[10:36] <ompaul> Faust_VIII, read the message from the bot it tells you stuff about installing lots of different ways
[10:37] <mipstien> gi00 it does tho :(
[10:37] <gi00> hm, did you find the packet
[10:37] <ompaul> eyedol, it can be all sorts of things - bad mouse bad motherboard, the usb infrastructure can fall apart at times try the mouse in a different port it might help
[10:38] <ompaul> eyedol, usb is not some kind of magic but it can feel like it sometimes
[10:39] <eyedol> ompaul, my mouse is very new bought a couples of days ago
[10:39] <ompaul> eyedol, means nothing really, now have you used other ports already?
[10:39] <eyedol> ompaul,all of them and they all turn to behave the same
[10:40] <ompaul> eyedol, try a different mouse - if it works then it is the mouse?
[10:41] <eyedol> ompaul, it does the same with every mouse I use, couldn't it be a video card driver issue?
[10:41] <ebzero> Has anyone here ever had a problem when installing UBUNTU where it stalls at Hard Ware Check??????????
[10:41] <printk> !install > ebzero
[10:41] <mobal> hello
[10:41] <Frustrated_Noob> Fortunately, not me Ebzero.  I'm just having problems running things with ubuntu
[10:41] <mobal>  i need help
[10:41] <mobal> i want to help my friend
[10:42] <printk> ebzero: the msg the bot will send you sends you to good links on common installation issues
[10:42] <ompaul> eyedol, you suspect a video card that is a bit random is it not?
[10:42] <camirrakiu> hi!!
[10:42] <mobal> how can i make ubuntu 6.06 remote control server vnc?
[10:42] <gi00> mipstien: try do use aptitude
[10:42] <camirrakiu> somebody know spanish???
[10:42] <kitche> mobal: you mean install a vnc server on it or the client?
[10:42] <camirrakiu> espaol?
[10:42] <ompaul> !es
[10:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:42] <ebzero> Pritnk what bot?
[10:42] <LiraNuna> use !es
[10:42] <mobal> no basic ubunt 6.06
[10:43] <printk> ebzero: ubotu sent you a msg
[10:43] <mobal> the ubuntu's built in remote desktop is only viewer?
[10:43] <kitche> mobal: yes I m trying to figure out if you want to use it as a client or as a server
[10:43] <eyedol> ompaul, is there a way to get running again with I have to reboot?
[10:43] <mobal> oh
[10:43] <mobal> what server must i install?
[10:43] <ompaul> eyedol, does your on machine mouse work?
[10:43] <printk> mobal: they want to remotely log into their ubuntu box?
[10:44] <ebzero> So pritnk do i ask it again?
[10:44] <printk> !install
[10:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:44] <ompaul> eyedol, as in synaptic mouse pad
[10:44] <mobal> yes
[10:44] <printk> ^ there you go ebzero
[10:44] <kitche> mobal: you can install tightvncserver
[10:44] <mobal> oh
[10:44] <mobal> and i need to config it?
[10:44] <eyedol> ompaul, yep that works even if the usb mouse breaks
[10:44] <mobal> must config?
[10:44] <mobal> '
[10:45] <kitche> mobal: you might have to it might just work after a install also
[10:45] <Severian> The built is remote desktop is the server piece  vncviewer is the client.  I think I installed that seperate, but I can check if it helps.
[10:45] <kitche> mobal: but you have to configure it for the password
[10:45] <mobal> ok
[10:45] <mobal> thx
[10:46] <ompaul> eyedol, I suggest you consult this web page, help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions and try some of the options, can you use a proper ps2 connection on the laptop?
[10:46] <voLvo> BrB
[10:46] <eyedol> I don't have that
[10:46] <ompaul> eyedol, vis the ps2 if you can it is usually the best way to deal with mice issues
[10:49] <AgEnT-0016> jo a;;
[10:49] <AgEnT-0016> hi all
[10:49] <AgEnT-0016> i have installed suse 10.1
[10:49] <AgEnT-0016> do you think ubuntu is better?
[10:49] <ebzero> MEDIC u here?
[10:49] <dzer0> hello
[10:50] <kitche> AgEnT-0016: they do the same thing but ubuntu doesn't use the rpm package format that hasn't been developed for 4-5 years
[10:50] <ebzero> Pritnk I ddint find anyhelp on the sites the bot gave me :[
[10:50] <dzer0> I need some help with setting up vsftpd or another ftp daemon
[10:50] <redguy> kitche: is that true?
[10:50] <kitche> redguy: what is true? about rpm not being develop for years?
[10:50] <AgEnT-0016> so what are saying kitche, ubuntu is better than suse?
[10:51] <Byan> AgEnT-0016: depends on preference
[10:51] <m83> hello. can anyone tell me how can I execute a command in gnome-terminal and then make gnome-terminal stay open? something like: gnome-terminal -e 'ls -l'. when I do this, it runs the ls and then quickly closes
[10:51] <kitche> AgEnT-0016: it all depends on the default and preference
[10:51] <ebzero> Which is better Ubuntu or suse? or somthing else? Becuase ive only been getting installing problems with ubuntu so far :[[
[10:51] <AgEnT-0016> what about hardware support
[10:51] <kitche> AgEnT-0016: it handles a lot of hardware out of the box
[10:51] <AgEnT-0016> i got some issues enabling ati 3d support in suse
[10:51] <m83> hello. can anyone tell me how can I execute a command in gnome-terminal and then make gnome-terminal stay open?
[10:51] <redguy> kitche: yup
[10:51] <m83> something like: gnome-terminal -e 'ls -l'. when I do this, it runs the ls and then quickly closes
[10:51] <AgEnT-0016> whay about ubuntu
[10:52] <Byan> I haven't used SuSE in a long time, but, ubuntu seems to have better hardware support.
[10:52] <m83> join #gnome-terminal
[10:52] <SlackRat> try suse and see if that installs
[10:52] <ebzero> Anyone ever gt any hardware check problems with 6.06.1? and knows how to fix them??
[10:52] <SlackRat> atm byan, i think so
[10:52] <kitche> AgEnT-0016: ati support is horrible in linux anyways but there is a readme on how to get ati working in ubuntu
[10:52] <kitche> hey it's SlackRat :)
[10:52] <AgEnT-0016> ok thnx
[10:52] <AgEnT-0016> !ati
[10:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:52] <SlackRat> hehe
[10:52] <dzer0> I need some help with setting up vsftpd or another ftp daemon
[10:52] <LiraNuna> lolol
[10:53] <SlackRat> anyone know why thunderbird just died on me this morning?
[10:53] <Byan> it hates you
[10:53] <kitche> SlackRat: because it hates you :) but mayeb ti left an error
[10:53] <SlackRat> hey kitche  :)
[10:53] <kitche> SlackRat: it's probably segfaulting probably
[10:53] <dzer0> can someone please help me?
[10:54] <SlackRat> seg faults out the wazoo
[10:54] <ardchoille> I think I am missing something for Xine, it says "Audio Codec: MPEG layer 2/3" so I think I need a codec for MPEG 2/3. What do I need to install?
[10:54] <SlackRat> how do you know bout it segfauting Kitche??
[10:54] <Severian> dzer0, what is the question?
[10:55] <Severian> dzer0, do you need the complete instructions on setting up an ftp server, or just a question or two?
[10:56] <kitche> SlackRat: because I get those all the time with mozilla stuff
[10:56] <jrib> ardchoille: maybe libxine-extracodecs
[10:56] <SlackRat> and the fix is wait for an update? lol
[10:56] <Byan> dzer0: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#FTP_Server
[10:56] <ardchoille> jrib: Ah, good idea
[10:56] <Byan> that whole guide is handy for quetions like these
[10:56] <kitche> SlackRat: no sometimes it stops segfaulting on it's own :)
[10:56] <ardchoille> jrib: Thanks
[10:56] <SlackRat> oh goody
[10:57] <scottevil> hello, anybody here use truecrypt?
[10:57] <SlackRat> well at least TB on slack is stable
[10:58] <kitche> SlackRat: well I tend to compile TB and still get segfaults, but after a few days it works normal for some odd reason
[10:58] <SlackRat> well i got opera mail just as a backup till i find the ideal mail server
[10:58] <SlackRat> er mail client
[10:59] <Byan> bleh, Opera mail.. isn't that client horrible?
[10:59] <SlackRat> so so
[10:59] <Byan> though, I haven't used it since before you had to pay for Opera
[11:00] <Otacon22> mplayer only don't work, wichj is the parameter for read from a webcam(/dev/video0)
[11:00] <Otacon22> ?
[11:00] <Byan> actually, I still have it install.. version 7.52..
[11:01] <skaos> SlackRat: it's mostly a defect (mozilla-)profile. have you started with a clean one?
[11:02] <SlackRat> er no, at what point, its crashed over a few things of late
[11:02] <ardchoille> jrib: That was the exact package I needed :)
[11:03] <jrib> ardchoille: great
[11:04] <Jowi> SlackRat: "firefox -ProfileManager" is the easiest way to set up a new one/switch to an old one
[11:05] <SlackRat> thanks Jowi
[11:06] <froud> Any reason why the Alternate CD Server Installation installs the -386 kernel, when the Server Installation CD installs the -server kernel?
[11:06] <LjL> froud: ... is that a trick question? =)
[11:07] <froud> LjL: no just an observation that confuses me
[11:08] <LjL> froud: well have a look here perhaps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelServerRoadmap
[11:08] <LjL> froud: especially the "Design" paragraph
[11:09] <philipsmith> Here is something I don't understand. When I start Amarok, sometimes the sound is low so I turn it up to the max. It is still soft, so I open RealPlayer, and turn up the volume slider to MAX, and the sound gets LOUD. WHY???
[11:09] <LjL> philipsmith: i guess that if you set the volume within amarok, it only sets its own output volume, while realplayer uses the system mixer.
[11:09] <LjL> philipsmith: try setting the volume high using the mixer
[11:10] <LjL> philipsmith: (the sliders concerned should be Master, Wave Out and Output Gain -- or similarly called)
[11:10] <bill6> bbl
[11:10] <jhon> ciao
[11:11] <LjL> !it
[11:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:11] <froud> LjL: OK, but that does not explain why Server Install CD installs -server and Alternate CD server installation installs -386
[11:11] <philipsmith> LjL: By golly you are right! I opened the volume control and RealPlayer, and slid the RealPlayer volume thingy, and the volume control thingy slid, also! I think this is weird.
[11:11] <jhon> cioa
[11:11] <LjL> froud: well, it does explain that, and why, the Server kernel is different from the standard kernel
[11:12] <froud> LjL: yah good info
[11:12] <clojster> hi, which package includes binary "cc"?
[11:12] <LjL> froud: the alternate cd on the other hand installs 386 because... that's what it's supposed to install? i mean, the -386 kernel is the standard "desktop" kernel that everything installs, except the server flavour
[11:12] <froud> LjL: I think somebody just forgot to remaster the Alternate CD.
[11:13] <LjL> froud: but the alternate cd isn't *supposed* to have the server kernel
[11:13] <froud> LjL: Alternate CD gives desktop server and oem install options
[11:13] <LjL> froud: i see... but well, i guess it's just got one kernel in it. but then yeah, i agree, it should come with two kernels, and install the server one if you select server...
[11:14] <froud> LjL: it here for stands to reason that the Server from Alternate CD should install a -server kernel
[11:14] <jhon> ciao
[11:14] <S0me1> hi
[11:14] <LjL> jhon: please stop repeating. we speak english here. if you want to get support in italian, join #ubuntu-it
[11:14] <froud> LjL: ok, thanx
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> There's an italian version too?
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> Holy crap!
[11:14] <S0me1> WPA hex password not work with me? any advice!
[11:14] <SlackRat> i think he said theres no one there, and if someone spoke italian to join him there
[11:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I have directories?
[11:15] <LjL> Sktfeelsdapper: there are #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu-fr etc channels for a lot of languages
[11:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> I have /home/skt/musak that I want to move to my newly mounted second hd
[11:15] <dzer0> Severian: you still there? sorry bout the wait, but I need like a full ftp tutorial
[11:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want to move /musak and all that into my second hd
[11:15] <LjL> SlackRat: uh... when did he say that?
[11:15] <lampshade> you know what just hit me and made me angry?  the lack of current flash on linux.  I mean this is kinda offtopic, but think about it, there is an Adobe version of reader out and in  the repos.  It isn't like they dont have *nix engineers.  How hard is it to find those guys and make them do flash?  (Maybe it is the same gys but it is taking them so long to do flash that I feel it almost has to be new people ^_^ )
[11:15] <dzer0> I apt-get installed vsftpd and I think it's running but I cant tell and it doesnt work
[11:16] <kitche> lampshade: they are making a flash 9 version
[11:16] <LjL> lampshade: ... but yeah, that *is* offtopic. which is ok, since there's not much talk going on in #ubuntu-offtopic right now... ;-)
[11:16] <dzer0> and I want to uninstall it and do something that works Severian
[11:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> Guys I think flash whatever is off sync for everyone./
[11:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> My bf is running a Windows box, and was watching youtube and it's pretty out of sync.
[11:18] <green_earz> dzer0: http://www.brennan.id.au/14-FTP_Server.html   bookmark it. should be of use
[11:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know if maybe they are updating, or if it's something wrong with them.
[11:18] <lampshade> kitche: yes, I'm well aware of that, if you read what I wrote, I specifically mentioned that it seems like it is taking them a while to come out with the new version.  I think from that one can gether that I know about them working on flash 9, which isn't supposed to even be done for months and months :-/.  Though my guess is I'll be running the beta of it much sooner.  Most people probably will
[11:18] <kingace> hi, im in the ubuntu livecd right now, trying to repartition my HDD
[11:18] <kingace> and gparted won't resize my disk
[11:18] <lampshade> Sktfeelsdapper: it is off sync for me too.  Or if it doesn't start that way, it ends that way
[11:18] <Renan_s2> !info ckermit
[11:18] <ubotu> ckermit: a serial and network communications package. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 211-6 (dapper), package size 1558 kB, installed size 2952 kB
[11:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> I think it's just a problem with them, not with us.
[11:18] <Renan_s2> !info hptalx
[11:19] <ubotu> Package hptalx does not exist in any distro I know
[11:19] <kingace> how do I mount my disk to make it read-write?
[11:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> Because like I said my bf was just watching youtube.
[11:19] <lampshade> A bigger problem is that a lot of sites use detection and then simply STOP you from viewing content and redirect you to getting flash 9... that's the most annoying imho
[11:19] <D35U> hi desu
[11:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just used gparted, kingace.
[11:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> It partitioned my other hard drive to ext3.
[11:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gparted
[11:19] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:19] <kingace> im trying to use it to resize my current disk
[11:19] <siriusnova> okay stupid question
[11:19] <siriusnova> but whats the difference between patch -p0
[11:20] <siriusnova> and patch -p1
[11:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> I mounted it and can now put files on my other HD which was ntfs.
[11:20] <mipstien> gi00 sorry but that aptitude didn't work either http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25348/
[11:20] <D35U> !desu
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <D35U> :O
[11:20] <D35U> !aiglx
[11:20] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[11:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> Now all I need to figure out is how to move the media I want to put on my other hd there.
[11:20] <lampshade> D35U: desu?  In my ubuntu ;)
[11:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do you move entire folders to another place?
[11:20] <D35U> lampshade in my parlour!?
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> Oh noes there's junk in my ubuntu\
[11:21] <lampshade> D35U: I don't habeeb it
[11:21] <D35U> habeeb it!
[11:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> Sweet another Scotty!
[11:21] <lampshade> haha  win
[11:21] <jvai> hey all, how will the renaming of firefox by debian affect the future browsers of ubuntu?
[11:21] <kingace> OK
[11:21] <kingace> mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[11:21] <kingace> thats what i get when i try to mount my disk
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> they're renaming firefox?
[11:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> You could always gksudo nautilus
[11:22] <Dr_willis> jvai,  i doubt it.
[11:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> and change permissions and who owns the folder.
[11:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> Or the drive or whatever.
[11:22] <lampshade> jvai: I've heard that the official mozilla response was that stuff got wayyyyy out of hand and the problem isn't nearly as bad as it is being reported on blogs.
[11:22] <D35U> lolifoox
[11:22] <D35U> lolifox
[11:22] <kingace> what does gksudo nautilus mean?
[11:22] <D35U> !google lolifox
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google lolifox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <RobHu> Hi - I just updated my dapper install and now when I login to Gnome I just get a coloured background - in safe mode it says "Unable to determine the address of the message bus"
[11:22] <jvai> hold on.. ima link a slashdot article
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> whats the difference between sudo and gksudo
[11:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> !nautilus
[11:22] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper:   cp -R folder  where-to
[11:22] <skaos> kingace: you have to umount the partitions before using gparted
[11:22] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[11:22] <Dr_willis> gotta love slashdot news
[11:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> O really.
[11:22] <jvai> oooh ok lamp
[11:22] <D35U> http://lolifox.com/ http://lolifox.com/ http://lolifox.com/ http://lolifox.com/ http://lolifox.com/ DESU!
[11:22] <Dr_willis> all the news thats fit to OverHype and rant about. :P
[11:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> Basically nautilus is like super user right?
[11:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> or gksudo is super user.
[11:23] <kingace> no im running it under sudo
[11:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> At any rate, I was able to change permissions and change who owns my hd.
[11:23] <D35U> desu!
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> I thought that was what sudo was
[11:23] <kingace> how do i change permissions?
[11:23] <sanyi> hi all
[11:23] <Suiseiseki> desu
[11:23] <D35U> GhostFreeman its not sudo, its desu
[11:23] <Hinaichigo> desu
[11:23] <D35U> desu rm -f /
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> man desu
[11:23] <Suiseiseki> desu apt-get install fail
[11:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> Huh.
[11:23] <kingace> rm -f ?
[11:23] <D35U> its usually located in /usr/bin/desu
[11:23] <kingace> how to change permissions on /dev/hda?
[11:23] <Suiseiseki> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:23] <Suiseiseki> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:23] <Suiseiseki> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:23] <Suiseiseki> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:23] <Suiseiseki> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:23] <LoRez> Warning: `Suiseiseki' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[11:23] <Suiseiseki> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:23] <Rez> Warning: `Suiseiseki' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[11:23] <rlared> hey is there a general chat channel for ubuntu users?
[11:24] <Hinaichigo> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:24] <Hinaichigo> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:24] <Hinaichigo> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:24] <Hinaichigo> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:24] <Hinaichigo> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
[11:24] <D35U> kingace chmod +desu /dev/hda
[11:24] <jrib> !ops
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[11:24] <D35U> !ops desu
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops desu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <jrib> rlared: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:24] <rlared> jrib: thx
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> imbrandon, take care of that please
[11:24] <kingace> im on the livecd
[11:24] <lampshade> holy crap how many /b/tards are in here
[11:24] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't remember what I went into to get to that.
[11:24] <kingace> wtf is desu anyway?
[11:24] <GhostFreeman> Google it
[11:24] <Sktfeelsdapper> Why don't you just install it, kingace?
[11:24] <waxfactor2nd> hi there.
[11:24] <waxfactor2nd> do anyone here know how i dual boot win xp and ubuntu?
[11:24] <waxfactor2nd> i tried installing windows xp on partition 1, on hdd 0 (10gb partition), and ubuntu on partition 2 (20 gb) on hdd 0, /home on partition 3 (30 gb) on hdd 0, and a 2gig swap.
[11:24] <waxfactor2nd> i rebooted, and i got a grub error 22, anyone with a solution?
[11:24] <kingace> because im trying to dual boot
[11:25] <kingace> on my existing windows partition
[11:25] <kingace> by resizing it
[11:25] <mipstien> I am having trouble gettin nvidia-glx uninstalled, if i use apt-get i get these errors, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25345/ , if i use aptitude i get these errors, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25348/
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> oos.
[11:25] <kingace> oos?
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> That I have no idea how to do, sorry.
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> Hahaha
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ooh is that I meant.
[11:25] <kingace> its easy you resize it in gparted
[11:25] <kingace> problem is, i cant mount the damn disk
[11:25] <kingace> properly
[11:25] <Dr_willis> waxfactor2nd,  google for that grub error.. i cant recall seeing that one befor.   Normally you install windows, then isntall ubuntu, and its grub loader works decently well.
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> did you use fstab?
[11:25] <Renan_s2> does anybody here know how to send/receive files to/from an HP-48 calculator (serial port link) under Linux?
[11:26] <kingace> whats fstab?
[11:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> gedit /ect/fstab
[11:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> !fstab
[11:26] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[11:26] <D35U> help
[11:26] <D35U> someone is hacking into my computer desu
[11:26] <waxfactor2nd> driwilis kk shall do
[11:26] <kingace> what line should I add
[11:26] <D35U> everytime I close a window it repones
[11:26] <waxfactor2nd> and i installend windwos first
[11:26] <D35U> and all my files are renamed to desu
[11:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> What are you trying to mount? Windows or ubuntu?
[11:27] <kingace> ok
[11:27] <kingace> heres the deal
[11:27] <D35U> Windows or ubuntu, or desu
[11:27] <D35U> can anyone help me configure xdesu
[11:27] <D35U> for my xgl setup
[11:27] <jrib> D35U: take care of your desu virus and then come back please, it is spamming the channel
[11:27] <kingace> i have one partition with windows on it and about 30 gigs free. i want to mount it with write permissions so I can resize it so I can use the remaining free space for ubuntu
[11:27] <kingace> what line should I add to fstab
[11:27] <D35U> jrib desu I cant desu deal with it
[11:27] <D35U> I need some desu help
[11:27] <Sktfeelsdapper> Holy crap.
[11:27] <D35U> please desu ^_____^
[11:28] <kingace> what skt?
[11:28] <LjL> Renan_s2: vv
[11:28] <LjL> !info hptalx breezy
[11:28] <ubotu> hptalx: A HP48 or HP49 <-> Computer communications program for Linux.. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1.1.0-5 (breezy), package size 38 kB, installed size 164 kB
[11:28] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm trying to process that.
[11:28] <Sktfeelsdapper> !mount
[11:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:28] <LjL> Renan_s2: but i don't see that in dapper...
[11:28] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm sorry king, I got like 3 hours of sleep and spent all night mounting my own second hd.
[11:28] <D35U> !desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <LjL> !ops
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[11:28] <D35U> CTCP DESU
[11:28] <Jammer> Has anyone here tried building wine 0.9.22 on Ubuntu Edgy? All of the executables are dumping core
[11:29] <kingace> what line should I add to fstab?
[11:29] <mipstien> hiya ljl ! good to see you again :)
[11:29] <D35U> kingace, you need {desu, 0 1 2 des deu desu }
[11:29] <LjL> hi mipstien
[11:29] <takuhii> hey can anybody help me with a server config issue?
[11:29] <yarddog> Jammer, #ubuntu+1
[11:29] <green_earz> mipstien:  try   sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx  -s      the switch -s is to simulate the action
[11:29] <kingace> can someone kick that desu guy
[11:29] <kingace> hes a douche bag
[11:29] <Jammer> yarddog: Rgr
[11:29] <D35U> kingace your a desu bagh
[11:29] <ardchoille> D35U: This is an Ubuntu support channel. Please respect the channel and its visitors.
[11:30] <MKR> I think it's a robot
[11:30] <mipstien> Would download/install/remove packages.
[11:30] <D35U> ardchoille sorry, will do desu
[11:30] <SpComb> in soviet russia, desu hax0r D35U (disclaimer: I am not a bot)
[11:30] <kingace> ok so once again, what should I add to the fstab
[11:30] <D35U> lol!
[11:30] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'd recommend looking it up honestly kingace.
[11:30] <kingace> OK
[11:30] <D35U> SpComb, in sovite desu, desu desu desu desu desu desu!
[11:30] <ubuntu__> I need some help to intall Ubuntu, i'm in a livecd
[11:30] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm sorry bro, haha.
[11:31] <takuhii> can somebody help me with a server config, I can't get my system on my network or tell if the network card is installed properly
[11:31] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know what you can do from a Livecd either, I just pretty much popped it in and installed it when it finished loading.
[11:31] <D35U> halp Raep!!!
[11:31] <LjL> !ops
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[11:31] <takuhii> !help
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[11:31] <ardchoille> /ignore D35U
[11:31] <D35U> /desu desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu
[11:32] <takuhii> what is your malfunction man
[11:32] <crazy_penguin> how can i override and stop an dpkg action?
[11:32] <LjL> crazy_penguin: don't
[11:32] <Raep> Wait, so you guys are all a bunch of weeaboo faggots?
[11:32] <crazy_penguin> i have to
[11:32] <LjL> crazy_penguin: just let it finish
[11:32] <LjL> !ops
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[11:32] <LjL> what the heck, WE NEED OPS
[11:32] <D35U> !desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <D35U> !desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <ardchoille> D35U: Knock it off. People are trying to get help with thri Ubuntu and you're just making it harder
[11:32] <D35U> :D
[11:32] <D35U> oh
[11:32] <green_earz> takuhii: sudo route    and see if the default gateway ip addess is there
[11:32] <Renan_s2> ardchoille, d35u is a bot
[11:32] <kaot> D35U: you're about to get banned.  Take it easy.
[11:32] <Raep>  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu -
[11:32] <Raep>  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu -
[11:32] <Raep>  desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu -
[11:32] <crazy_penguin> but if i let it i will end up with a broken system
[11:32] <kaot> oops.
[11:32] <D35U> sorry
[11:32] <ionel_mc> hilarious
[11:32] <D35U> I will quiet
[11:33] <D35U> ^_^
[11:33] <kaot> hm
[11:33] <ionel_mc> oh come on
[11:33] <D35U> halo
[11:33] <ionel_mc> don't kick him
[11:33] <ionel_mc> he's funny ^_^
[11:33] <kaot> I'm thinking we're under attack by a bunch of bored 13 year olds.
[11:33] <Arrick> if i wanted to watch scrolling, I would put on the ten commandments
[11:33] <ardchoille> He's not funny, he's annoying
[11:34] <Arrick> very
[11:34] <ionel_mc> that is relative
[11:34] <mipstien> AHHH i can't figure this out its killing me, its still giving me errors, i can not uninstall nvidia-glx
[11:34] <kaot> ionel_mc: no,it's annoying.
[11:34] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25348/
[11:34] <takuhii> green_earz I'm trying the route now
[11:34] <takuhii> had to boot up the system
[11:34] <TheApologist> hello everyone
[11:34] <omegacat> hello.
[11:34] <ionel_mc> well then... if someone is annoyed then i'm having fun :P
[11:35] <omegacat> plz to be helping, i can't get my USB mouse or wifi working on my laptop =(
[11:35] <green_earz> takuhii: on my machine it returns              default         192.168.0.1
[11:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> kingoace let me find you some things about it.
[11:35] <takuhii> ugh, another issue ill get back to you guys on that one
[11:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> Since I couldn't help you.
[11:35] <takuhii> er never mind
[11:35] <GhostFreeman> what's your wifi?
[11:35] <omegacat> me?
[11:35] <GhostFreeman> yeah
[11:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&page=7
[11:36] <omegacat> i think it's a broadcom something, and i googled and there was stuff about ndiswrapper
[11:36] <omegacat> and i don't know how to do that.
[11:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&page=19
[11:36] <GhostFreeman> I see
[11:36] <takuhii> ok sudo route did not show anything, just the labels for the kernel ip routing table
[11:36] <mipstien> I am having trouble gettin nvidia-glx uninstalled, if i use apt-get i get these errors, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25345/ , if i use aptitude i get these errors, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25348/
[11:36] <GhostFreeman> well I dont have experience with Broadcom, only Atheros
[11:36] <GhostFreeman> lets see what ubotu has to say
[11:36] <GhostFreeman> !broadcom
[11:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:37] <omegacat> i will find out which one i have, brb
[11:37] <GhostFreeman> if its Broadcom it should all be the same right
[11:37] <dantje> hi there, i spent several hours trying to get a Samsung 204B to run at 1600x1200 [Ubuntu Dapper Drake, NV34/GeForce FX 5200, nv driver] .  xorg.conf and logfile can be found at http://pastebin.ca/187179
[11:37] <takuhii> etc/network/interfaces has auto lo, and auto eth0 - iface etho0 inet dhcp
[11:37] <takuhii> how can I tell if my network card is recognized/working?
[11:37] <dantje> I is always telling me (II) NV(0): Mode "1600x1200_60.00" is larger than BIOS programmed panel size of 1280 x 1024.  Removing
[11:37] <omegacat> i don't know.
[11:38] <omegacat> i'm sorry, i suck at this =(
[11:38] <green_earz> takuhii: now use the command : sudo ifconfig   to see if the ethernet card as a ip address. by the look of thing it will not
[11:38] <dantje> Now how can I override this? The panel size for this device is 1600x1200.
[11:38] <Rasta> !rails
[11:38] <ubotu> rails: MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 1723 kB, installed size 12820 kB
[11:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> I tried ruby and got confused myself.
[11:38] <Rasta> !ruby
[11:38] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[11:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> Rails was worse.
[11:39] <Rasta> dude, rails its the best webdev thing i ve ever used
[11:39] <Rasta> after years of java/php
[11:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> I even did that guide.
[11:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> I guess i'm just not cut out for programming?
[11:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> Why's poignant guide blah blah blah
[11:40] <GhostFreeman> Perl > *
[11:40] <GhostFreeman> although a php is fine too
[11:40] <SpComb> Visual Basic!
[11:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want to learn a language though.
[11:40] <mikm[laptop] > Python!
[11:40] <GhostFreeman> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:40] <tjb891> does anyone if it is possible to convert .avi to dvds or another dvd player readibible format with ubuntu?
[11:40] <feugan3333> Hi all. Does anyone know how to compile a kernel module. I've found lots of howto's but none of them work.
[11:40] <SpComb> MS-DOS batch files?
[11:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> I've tried learning Ruby, didn't get too far.
[11:41] <SpComb> those are really fun
[11:41] <mikm[laptop] > Sktfeelsdapper Seriously, learn python.  It's an elegant, useful language w/ a shallow learning curve
[11:41] <gnomefreak> guys this isnt the right channel to be talking about what languages to learn
[11:41] <bleaked> argh.. late last night i ran an update/upgrade (dapper-security).  since it updated my kernel, and i had just bought a new keyboard, i decided to shutdown, then power on.  when i booted the system, i see the POST, followed by a text msg, "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT".  now, to me, this says that the bios either cannot see the drive it needs to boot from, or something is wrong with grub.  so could someone please recommend my next step?
[11:41] <takuhii> green_earz, I got 127.0.0.1 as the ip and the mask is 255.0.0.0. I know this to be a return to sender addy, should this information have anything about my network card? cause I don't see any mention of netgear or anything
[11:41] <mipstien> I am having trouble gettin nvidia-glx uninstalled, if i use apt-get i get these errors, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25345/ , if i use aptitude i get these errors, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25348/
[11:42] <leshaste> I was wondering.. can any kind soul confirm http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134898 for me please?
[11:42] <takuhii> it only lists lo, no eth0 as well
[11:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> mkm, so it's easy to learn?
[11:42] <Coir> How do I enable widescreen resolutions in Ubuntu?
[11:42] <bleech> how can i install gcc 4.1.1 on dapper?  would it be easier to upgrade to edgy eft?
[11:42] <crazy_penguin> LjL: here?
[11:43] <LjL> crazy_penguin: yes
[11:43] <green_earz> takuhii:  so it look like the driver for the pci ethernet card is not installed.  do a lscpi -v  for the info of what the ether card is
[11:43] <LjL> bleech: you can probably install it through other means, but i wouldn't recommend it, nor would i know where exactly to start
[11:43] <leshaste> it's the second attachment that is important
[11:44] <omegacat> GhostFreeman i think it is Broadcom 4306
[11:44] <crazy_penguin> LjL: i was forced to stop dpkg because i didn't look when i installed a package and dpkg was on the point to unsinstall the kubuntu-desktop package and everything with it. so ...
[11:44] <omegacat> i have an emachines m6810
[11:44] <cens0red|wtmf`> my irc client is freaking out... :|
[11:44] <Alakazam_> have you asked it to stop.
[11:44] <Alakazam_> ?
[11:44] <crazy_penguin> LjL: i found the flag/command needed to stop dpkg
[11:44] <cens0red|wtmf`> no.  i slapped it.
[11:44] <takuhii> lscpi -v dosn't work
[11:45] <takuhii> command not found
[11:45] <LjL> crazy_penguin: oh, and that is?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> bleech: although its not advised to install it on dapper it doesnt seem it will be too much trouble. it doesnt depend on libc6 but it recommended libc6-dev
[11:45] <crazy_penguin> the hold command
[11:45] <gnomefreak> bleech: packages.ubuntu.com  look for it in the edgy section but beware its not safe to do it
[11:46] <LjL> crazy_penguin: uhm, i'm not sure what you mean... dpkg --hold? or something?
[11:46] <crazy_penguin> no
[11:46] <gnomefreak> bleech: nothing on dapper was compiled with gcc 4.1.1 so you might have issues if you go to build something
[11:47] <green_earz> takuhii: sorry its  :   lspci -v
[11:47] <omegacat> and my mouse, i am confused. i looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-249063.html but my xorg.conf doesn't look like that.
[11:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> what are really good p2p things for ubuntu that are like soulseek?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: limewire amule frostwire
[11:47] <takuhii> k hold on that dumped a huge ammt of shit to my prompt
[11:47] <mipstien> sktfeelsdapper, gtk-gnutella
[11:48] <skaos> mipstien: have you tried 'dpkg -r --force-all nvidia-glx'
[11:48] <green_earz> takuhii: look for " Ethernet controller "
[11:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> I have bittorrent on here, but I can't get alot of albums and don't know of many bittorrent sites.
[11:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> And Nicotine has been a giant failure to me.
[11:48] <mipstien> skaos i have not but i am in the aptitude gui right now and it says its repairing the broken package, if this doesn' towrk i will try that
[11:48] <Renan_s2> Sktfeelsdapper, Nicotine works OK here
[11:48] <gnomefreak> takuhii: please watch your language this is a family rated channel
[11:48] <Otacon22> I had installed Xgl but after install i have finded a grafic problem witch vlc, you can see it here: http://iamartino.altervista.org/Schermata.png
[11:48] <senior> Hi guys - does anyone know where I could find a Japanese online dictionary that would pronounce a word?
[11:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> Doesn't work here, at all.
[11:48] <takuhii> not seeing any ethernet controller
[11:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> I apt-get install it
[11:49] <omegacat> and every time it suspends/hibernates or whatever, i have to power cycle it to get it to come back on.
[11:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> Click on it, and it doesn't come up.
[11:49] <gnomefreak> Otacon22: please join #ubuntu-xgl for that
[11:49] <mipstien> www.isohunt.com   bittorrent site
[11:49] <Otacon22> tnx
[11:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah I tried that, I can't find too many albums on there.
[11:49] <leshaste> I was wondering.. can any kind soul confirm http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134898 for me please?
[11:49] <leshaste> it's the second attachment that is important
[11:49] <omegacat> nobody knows?
[11:49] <mipstien> use Azureus, its better than the basic bit torrent site
[11:49] <gnomefreak> leshaste: using gentoo?
[11:50] <leshaste> gnomefreak: I am but it isn't clear whether that is relevant to this bug
[11:50] <omegacat> help?
[11:50] <omegacat> maybe?
[11:50] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: http://www.torrentreactor.net/ http://www.mininova.org/ http://thepiratebay.org/ http://isohunt.com/
[11:50] <gnomefreak> leshaste: the bug is not relavent at all to ubuntu
[11:50] <omegacat> plz?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> leshaste: its a gentoo build package
[11:51] <leshaste> gnomefreak: you mean it doesn't show in ubuntu?
[11:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> I've used mininova and isohunt and can't find any mp3/albums I like.
[11:51] <leshaste> gnomefreak: this is the problem.. we need to know if it is kde or gentoo
[11:51] <gnomefreak> leshaste: the first line of it is gentoo package
[11:51] <PFA> has anyone here had any success with a Lexmark P915, Z705 or X2350?
[11:51] <leshaste> gnomefreak: could you test the second attachment please
[11:51] <takuhii> hey green_earz, lspci worked good but in verbose mode I can't read all the output
[11:51] <gnomefreak> leshaste: leshaste my kde 3.5.4 works fine here
[11:51] <DingoK> is there a way to tell dpkg or apt to uninstall/rm everything thta has to do with a pakcage? configs and all? so that I can reinstall from scratch?
[11:51] <omegacat> =(
[11:52] <gnomefreak> leshaste: we dont have kde devel team we have a kubuntu devel team
[11:52] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: http://www.torrentspy.com/default.asp
[11:52] <omegacat> sry, i must be in the wrong place. is there a help channel?
[11:52] <Xenguy> Sktfeelsdapper: thepiratebay.org
[11:52] <Sktfeelsdapper> Maybe I should reboot my computer to see if this actually worked.
[11:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> Wish me luck on this one.
[11:53] <LjL> omegacat: this is the help channel. it's just kinda crowded, and there might not be somebody who knows the answer to your problem seeing your question...
[11:53] <green_earz> takuhii: lspci -v | grep Ethernet        may be better to veiw
[11:53] <takuhii> ah cool I was just reading a page on grep
[11:53] <bleaked> DingoK: the purge option.  if you use aptitude, it's sudo aptitude purge <pkg>
[11:53] <omegacat> LjL I have about a million problems. =( the whole thing sucks and my boyfriend is sleeping and i can't make it work and i hate it.
[11:53] <green_earz> takuhii: its a very handy tool
[11:53] <takuhii> I understand how to use the command line I just don't know all the commands or how to string them together as well as you do :)
[11:54] <DingoK> bleaked: is there a way to do it with apt-get ?
[11:54] <takuhii> green_earz: returned nothing
[11:54] <juztin> question : how do i fix this problem? configure: error: *** SDL version 1.2.0 not found!
[11:54] <omegacat> and i cannot find instructions that i understand and the whole idea of using ubuntu was made of suck and fail, i think.
[11:54] <Dr_willis> juztin,  install the various sdl libarary developer packages
[11:55] <bleaked> DingoK: well yea.. but you should really use aptitude.. the commands are almost identical.. i think apt-get uses, apt-get remove --purge or something.. check the manual, man apt-get
[11:55] <juztin> Dr_willis, thanks :)
[11:55] <Xenguy> DingoK: apt-get remove --purge packagename OR dpkg -r packagename
[11:55] <omegacat> i should have known when just the installation crashed 3 times.
[11:55] <Xenguy> DingoK: actually dunno if that dpkg command 'purges', hrm
[11:56] <juztin> Dr_willis, i get this error when trying to install libsdl1.2-dev in synaptic : Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade : The following packages have unresolvable dependencies.  Make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences.  Depends: libartsc0-dev but it is not going to be installed
[11:56] <DingoK> xenguy: the apt-get worked, thanks !
[11:56] <Dr_willis> juztin,  besure ya got all the repos enabled. then update, upgrad, and try again. i guess..
[11:56] <green_earz> takuhii:  so i look like the card as not been seen at the bios level.   at ether card that play well with linux is 3com  3c905C
[11:57] <Xenguy> din: yw (dpkg takes a -P argument to purge)
[11:57] <takuhii> I have an extra ethernet card, is there anything I have to do if i shutdown and swap the cards?
[11:57] <takuhii> also, is there a list where I can see if my card is on that list
[11:58] <green_earz> takuhii:  no just shut down the machine are try the other card
[11:58] <takuhii> k im gonna do that now
[11:59] <Xenguy> takuhii: just swap the cards and turn on the PC.  Maybe google ubuntu hardware compatibility
[11:59] <dantje> Where do I turn for xorg.conf, driver & resolution problems? I'd like to see the Samsung 204B just work in one of the next ubuntu releases.
[12:00] <omegacat> ok: I have the following problems: 1. My whole ubuntu endeavor thus far is made of suck and fail. 2. My wifi doesn't work. 3. I can't make my USB mouse work. 4. Every time the screen saver comes on it locks up and i have to power cycle 5. I suck at ubuntu and linux and have an emachines m6810 that i put dapper on