[12:11] <rouzic> Hi all
[12:11] <rouzic> I have a problem with a wifi in the Macbook and Beta Kubuntu Edgy
[12:11] <thunderstorm> hi rouzic
[12:12] <rouzic> Hi thunderstorm
[12:12] <main2> crimsun: are you around? :)
[12:12] <gaby_> bonsoir a tous
[12:13] <thunderstorm> hi gaby_
[12:13] <thunderstorm> you are from france?
[12:13] <gaby_> yes
[12:13] <proger> oui
[12:13] <gaby_> and you ,where do you from?
[12:14] <thunderstorm> i'm from germany
[12:14] <gaby_> ok
[12:17] <DavidEdmundson> rouzic: I found a great macbook wiki, hold on.
[12:18] <DavidEdmundson> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Apple_MacBook
[12:18] <DavidEdmundson> it's for gentoo, so swap emerge with apt-get install
[12:18] <DavidEdmundson> core should be the same.
[12:18] <gnomefreak> how do you delete the articles (not the feeds) from akregator without going one by one?
[12:20] <rouzic> DavidEdmundson: a Edgy?
[12:20] <thunderstorm> hm
[12:20] <i4get> Im edgy...:0
[12:20] <rouzic> in dapper work perfectly, in edgy no
[12:21] <i4get> whats not working?
[12:26] <rouzic> the wifi
[12:27] <Kubu> hey
[12:27] <Kubu> how do i add a SESSION?
[12:31] <tha-rooty> hi all
[12:32] <tha-rooty> my X stoped working with users.. only works for root now
[12:32] <tha-rooty> waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[12:32] <tha-rooty> i see that from c log
[12:32] <tha-rooty> Xlog
[12:33] <tha-rooty> any ideas_
[12:33] <tha-rooty> i need help
[12:34] <tha-rooty> kdm just  restarts when i hit enter on my user password
[12:35] <miyako> !compiz
[12:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:35] <tha-rooty> i have to killall kdm and run startx as root to get X
[12:35] <fdoving> tha-rooty: can you pastebin the 10 last lines of /home/username/,xsession-errors ?
[12:35] <nimnrod> is there an application for ntfs partitions yet?
[12:36] <fdoving> !ntfs > nimnrod
[12:36] <fdoving> !ntfs > fdoving
[12:36] <miyako> is that guide for compiz still up to date?  I've been googling and have seen information that the compiz packages are broken and such?
[12:36] <tha-rooty> fdoving, the 10 lines are open: Permission denied
[12:36] <fdoving> miyako: you might try #ubuntu-xgl
[12:36] <miyako> ok, thanks
[12:37] <tha-rooty> Xsession: X session started for user at Sun Oct  1 00:26:23 CEST 2006
[12:37] <tha-rooty> open: Permission denied
[12:37] <tha-rooty> thats it
[12:37] <nimnrod> fdoving: i can see my windows partitions but i cant write in them from kubuntu...
[12:37] <fdoving> tha-rooty: can you paste it all to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[12:37] <tha-rooty> i told you wats in it.. it just that.
[12:38] <tha-rooty> 6 times to be exactly
[12:38] <fdoving> tha-rooty: ok. permission denied. can you pastebin the whole /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:39] <tha-rooty> why _ i got no errors in it
[12:39] <tha-rooty> my X conf is fine
[12:39] <tha-rooty> as it works for root
[12:40] <fdoving> you've got permission issues.
[12:40] <tha-rooty> on my tmp i think
[12:40] <fdoving> ok.
[12:40] <fdoving> then fix it :)
[12:40] <tha-rooty> i see no user files in there
[12:40] <tha-rooty> i\ll try
[12:40] <proger> I m following howTO and there is this note:'You have to recompile the kernel module after each kernel update!' Can you please tell me ho to RECOMPILE KERNEL?
[12:41] <fdoving> !kernel
[12:41] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:41] <fdoving> proger: ^^
[12:41] <proger> right:)
[12:42] <fdoving> proger: however, it says you should only compile the module, not the whole kernel.
[12:42] <larson9999> i did a 'set ' to check out some variables and it looks funny to me.  the lines after 'image-magick' go on forever.  what the heck is this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25355/
[12:42] <proger> ok, I ll try to do my best
[12:44] <crazy_penguin> Good night to everyone!
[12:45] <fdoving> larson9999: has to do with command auto completion.
[12:47] <larson9999> fdoving: so that's normal?
[12:47] <fdoving> larson9999: if you have bash completion enabled, it is normal.
[12:48] <kjm> is there a way for kate to remember its current state, so on next load - open documents are re-opened?
[12:48] <larson9999> fdoving: thanks
[12:48] <fdoving> larson9999: you can read more about it at: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/316
[12:49] <fdoving> kjm: yes. profiles or what it's called. 7th drop-down menu-item from the left.
[12:50] <kjm> fdoving - terrific!  Just what I wanted to see.  Thanks a lot.
[12:50] <fdoving> kjm: you're welcome :)
[12:56] <mariano_> kde + beryl/compiz = imposible?
[12:56] <fdoving> mariano_: i don't know, you might have more luck askin in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:56] <mariano_> thanks fdoving
[12:57] <Phantom784> hi.  when i start kubuntu, i hangs mounting the root partition.  any suggestions?
[12:57] <Phantom784> *it
[12:57] <mariano_> Phantom784: mounting fs?
[12:57] <Phantom784> +++-+
[12:57] <Phantom784> -+
[12:57] <Phantom784> ++++
[12:57] <Phantom784> sry
[12:58] <Phantom784> i guess that's what its trying to do
[12:58] <mariano_> Phantom784: i disabled usb 2.0 in bios, then upgrade kernel package; then enabled usb 2.0
[12:59] <mariano_> Phantom784: it worked for me
[12:59] <Phantom784> mariano:  it's not a usb hard drive, so how could usb be screwing it up?
[12:59] <mariano_> Phantom784: mine's not usb either...it's a bug
[01:00] <mariano_> Phantom784: that's MY experience...
[01:00] <Phantom784> mariano_: it was working fine before, but the case was knocked over.  could that screw it up?  (i can still mount the drive in knoppix, which i'm on now)
[01:01] <Phantom784> mariano_: but i'll try your method
[01:01] <Phantom784> shutting down...
[01:01] <mariano_> Phantom784: ok, I don't know then, sorry
[01:01] <mariano_> oops
[01:01] <oheard> :-)
[01:05] <SillyZ> evening yall
[01:06] <fdoving> evening sillyz.
[01:06] <SillyZ> q: i goto compile a simple helloworld.c program and I keep getting unable to compile binary executable
[01:06] <fdoving> SillyZ: make sure you've got the 'build-essential' package installed.
[01:06] <SillyZ> ahhh
[01:06] <SillyZ> ok
[01:06] <SillyZ> I dont remember installing that package but now that I know i will, thanks
[01:07] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[01:08] <SillyZ> brb
[01:12] <Tumaini> Hello people! I've decided to give Linux a try and am choosing between mepis and ubuntu/kubuntu. Would anyone care to voice their opinions on why anyone is preferred over the other for a normal day-to-day user, who wants dual boot with windows?
[01:14] <fdoving> Tumaini: we prefer kubuntu because it rocks :)
[01:14] <lupine_85> it granites :)
[01:15] <Tumaini> Hehe, ok, well that convinced me! :P
[01:16] <MDCore> how do I see a konsole on konq ?
[01:18] <mariano_> MDCore: F8
[01:19] <MDCore> not seeing it... :P
[01:19] <mariano_> it works here
[01:20] <fdoving> isn't it F4?
[01:20] <fdoving> you won't get it inside konq, it'll just "open a konsole here.."
[01:20] <MDCore> ah.. I'm looking for it inside konq.
[01:21] <mariano_> MDCore: F8, maybe you should check if the shortcut is disabled, in control center
[01:21] <MDCore> yeah found it. thanks!
[01:22] <proger> didnt know it :)
[01:22] <mariano_> MDCore: it was disabled?
[01:22] <MDCore> it was.
[01:22] <mariano_> :)
[01:26] <octan> !tmpfs
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tmpfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <octan> !proc
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <fdoving> what do you want to know?
[01:28] <fdoving> gnite all.
[01:30] <octan> fdoving about tmpfs
[01:30] <octan> does kubuntu use it?
[01:30] <octan> or is tmpfs proc?
[01:34] <beavis_> !wpa
[01:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:35] <beavis_> anyone know about a good tutorial for wpa tkip?
[01:36] <tobias__> hello
[01:36] <tobias__> :)
[01:36] <beavis_> hello
[01:36] <tobias__> !tgz
[01:36] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:36] <tobias__> where is my file roller? i got this cool game with a .tgz extension that I want to play and Im using kubuntu
[01:36] <tobias__> save me
[01:37] <proger> use Ark
[01:37] <tobias__> ok
[01:37] <Dr_willis> what does .tgz have to do with it. :)
[01:37] <Dr_willis> uncompress the thing
[01:37] <tobias__> Im confused
[01:37] <tobias__> :)
[01:37] <beavis_> its like zip
[01:38] <Dr_willis> right click on it and check the menus.. :) or use the shell
[01:38] <Dr_willis> Be a real man! :)
[01:38] <Mason59> Hi all.  Anyone here have any experience connecting to a rogers.com smtp server?
[01:38] <octan> what purpose has /dev/shm ?
[01:39] <proger> Dr_willis: I m following one howTO and there is this note:'You have to recompile the kernel module after each kernel update!' Can you please tell me how to do it?
[01:40] <octan> !shm
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <orient2000> I am on rogers and I am using program evolution for e-mail
[01:41] <tobias__> hmmm
[01:41] <tobias__> I used ark
[01:41] <tobias__> but like
[01:41] <tobias__> its now a folder with stuff in it
[01:42] <tobias__> and theres no .exe File?!?
[01:42] <Mason59> Hi orient...tried both evolution and kmail, but can't send :(
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Thats what an archive is..
[01:42] <tobias__> daimon.p0 is the runfile?
[01:42] <Dr_willis>  use the shell.. see if anything is executablew
[01:42] <tobias__> dr_willis: I unpacked the game now I got a folder with stuff there is nothing executable I think
[01:43] <Dr_willis> if you are expecting to find a file called somthing.exe  - you need to read a few linux beginner guides. :P
[01:43] <Mason59> I know that rogers doesn't use port 25, and I have the right port, but still can't connect.  Did you have any trouble setting up smtp on rogers?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> tobias__,  ya see a 'README' file or similer?
[01:43] <mabreaux> how do you make an iso?
[01:43] <tobias__> im so confused
[01:43] <Mason59> what burning software are you using mabreaux?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> mabreaux,  with groisofs or other front ends that do the dirty work
[01:44] <orient2000> you must kave some mistake in your setup like pop.bloor.phub.net.cable.rogers.com and similar
[01:44] <Dr_willis> i like k3b
[01:44] <mabreaux> k3b
[01:44] <tobias__> dr_willis: I found the readme file it said I have to "make" the file
[01:44] <beavis_> anyone know a tutorial for setting upwpa tkip for the wireless connection?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> tobias__,  then you have to compile the source code.. and thus there IS no executable at this time.
[01:44] <Dr_willis> tobias__,  and whats the name of this game?
[01:44] <Mason59> I'm using the server that rogers technical support (who are btw, neither particularly technical or supportive) gave me
[01:44] <Dr_willis> it may allready be in the packages
[01:44] <tobias__> dr_willis: daimon
[01:44] <tobias__> daimonin
[01:44] <Dr_willis> !info daimon
[01:45] <ubotu> Package daimon does not exist in any distro I know
[01:45] <Mason59> pop works fine, but smtp is not sending
[01:45] <tobias__> !info daimonin
[01:45] <ubotu> Package daimonin does not exist in any distro I know
[01:45] <tobias__> hmm
[01:45] <Dr_willis> :) at least you are learning by watching us.. Lol
[01:45] <tobias__> :)
[01:45] <tobias__> indeed
[01:45] <Dr_willis> BRB
[01:45] <Mason59> mabreaux, in kb3, I believe you want to select data disk and perhaps make image?
[01:45] <beavis_> whats a command for creating a new file?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> beavis_: mkdir  or just right click where you want the file and create new
[01:46] <proger> touch <filename>
[01:47] <mabreaux> the image tab is greyed out
[01:47] <beavis_> gnomefreak, mkdir also creates files, not just folders?
[01:47] <Mason59> hmmm...let me open kb3 and check mine
[01:48] <gnomefreak> beavis_: it creates directories
[01:48] <mabreaux> ok I figured it out.  thank you for stearing me in the right direction.
[01:48] <beavis_> gnomefreak, is a file a directory ?
[01:49] <sync350> hey, when i go to system settings, there is no "Display" there, to change display settings, where can I get this?  I've seen screenshots that have it... but my system doesn't :/
[01:49] <Mason59> no worries mabreaux...glad to help
[01:49] <gnomefreak> beavis_: it can be used as one
[01:50] <beavis_> gnomefreak, so mkdir xxx.conf will create a text file?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> beavis_: you create a text file using a texted editor
[01:51] <gnomefreak> beavis_: it cant make a .conf file since there is not contents
[01:53] <rahmetli> i can hear from laptop's internal speakers but when i connect external using out jack i cant hear anything,do you have an idea?
[01:54] <koboi__> hello
[01:54] <koboi__> pti bleme de lecture mp3
[01:54] <Mason59> hello koboi
[01:54] <Mason59> welcome
[01:55] <koboi__> hello mason59
[01:55] <proger> koboi__: use Automatix
[01:55] <sync350> so anyone know anything about my missing desktop widget?
[01:55] <sync350> display*
[01:55] <Dr_willis> proger,  ive never had to use module assistant to get fglrx working
[01:55] <claydoh> rahmetli: if you open kmix, open the mixer and poke around the out but section, maybe checking off an output might get you going
[01:55] <Dr_willis> sync350,  ive seen that happen befor.. not sure what the deal is with it.
[01:56] <sync350> Dr_willis: any way to fix it?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> sync350,  im thinking if the xconfig.org file gets edited a lot it may vanish.. or it may just be in a confused state
[01:56] <koboi__> c est quoi deja la room kubuntu france ??
[01:56] <Dr_willis> last person who asked.. it suddendly started working
[01:56] <Dr_willis> I perfer to just edit the xorg.conf myself. :)
[01:56] <Dr_willis> !fr
[01:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:56] <koboi__> merci
[01:57] <Mason59> sync...have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:57] <koboi__> merci
[01:57] <rahmetli> claydoh i have checked it there is no problem :(
[01:58] <claydoh> what laptop make/model?
[01:58] <rahmetli> ASUS A6Vc
[01:58] <sync350> Dr_willis: can you fix it inside xorg.conf
[01:59] <beavis_> anyone know a tutorial for setting up wpa tkip for the wireless connection?
[02:03] <rahmetli> i can hear from laptop's internal speakers but when i connect external using out jack i cant hear anything,do you have an idea?
[02:06] <claydoh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=414786#post414786
[02:06] <claydoh> http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16beta1 edgy mainrobably not a fun thing to try :(
[02:06] <claydoh> oops bad paste
[02:07] <claydoh> probably not a fun thing to try :(
[02:12] <knithx> Hi! I don't have Atheros Wireless (ath0) on Kubuntu Edgy Beta 1
[02:12] <knithx> How can I get it?
[02:14] <Dr_willis> !edgy
[02:14] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:15] <Dr_willis> since i got no clue. :P
[02:17] <rahmetli> i can hear from laptop's internal speakers but when i connect external using out jack i cant hear anything,do you have an idea?
[02:21] <nimnrod> how to write to NTFS partitions?
[02:21] <Mason59> Hi nimrod...I believe that there is a program available on slashdot for this, although I seem to remember it being advertised as "experimental"
[02:22] <nimnrod> so it might not be safe?
[02:22] <Hawkwind> nimnrod: That is very experimental and usually doesn't do anything except corrupt the data
[02:22] <Hawkwind> nimnrod: It's not safe nor recommended
[02:22] <manuel_> !schedule
[02:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:22] <Mason59> Not sure...it may have been updated since the last time I looked at it 5-6 months ago
[02:22] <nimnrod> ok.. thank you
[02:23] <Mason59> Thanks Hawkwind...I've never tried it (nor will I now  LOL)
[02:24] <nimnrod> probably linux can't write to NTFS partitions because Microsoft
[02:24] <nimnrod> microsoft sucks
[02:24] <nimnrod> hehe
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> !ntfs
[02:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> !fuse
[02:24] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:24] <LjL> well, *reading* about it isn't unsafe
[02:25] <LjL> though i shouldn't complain, since i think it was me who wrote that part of that factoid...
[02:26] <beavis_> whats the channel for the beta kubuntu?
[02:26] <obf213> can cany one explain why xine cant load any drivers
[02:26] <LjL> !edgy
[02:26] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:27] <obf213> but i have sound on flash video?
[02:27] <beavis_> thanks
[02:27] <Dr_willis> what does xine have to do with flash video/sound?
[02:27] <obf213> isnt xine the audio driver
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> no
[02:27] <beavis_> xine is a media player i think
[02:27] <obf213> no
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> it's just a bunch of libraries for playing multimedia which doesn't include flash.
[02:27] <obf213> anywahs i how do i get sound back
[02:28] <beavis_> or a framework for a media player
[02:28] <obf213> not sound i guess xine
[02:28] <obf213> it cant load any drivers
[02:28] <Dr_willis> drivers?
[02:28] <Dr_willis> you mean codecs?
[02:28] <obf213> hre is the error messave
[02:28] <obf213> message*
[02:28] <Hawkwind> !info xine
[02:28] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in any distro I know
[02:28] <obf213> xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[02:28] <Hawkwind> !xine
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <Hawkwind> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:29] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:29] <obf213> all of a sudden i open amarok and i get that error message
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> obf213: it may be your xine config is trying to use the wrong ones. rm -rf ~/.xine to get it back to defaults.
[02:30] <altair> Hello.   Does anyone know if kopete still works with google talk?
[02:30] <obf213> nope
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> obf213: or it could be amarok has the wrong audio output selected.
[02:30] <obf213> this has happened a couple of times. jw. i think i have to logg out our back in or restart
[02:30] <Hawkwind> altair: Of course it does
[02:30] <obf213> LeeJunFan. i selected xine
[02:30] <benkong2> can someone tell me where my autoconf macro directory is?
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> obf213: you also need to select arts I think.
[02:31] <obf213> it says cant initalize audio drivers loaded void engine loaded instead
[02:31] <altair> Hawkwind: do you have it working right now?
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> or autodetect.
[02:31] <obf213> LeeJunfan: there no arts.
[02:31] <Hawkwind> altair: I don't use kopete at all.  I just know people who do that use it with Google Talk
[02:31] <obf213> or autodect under the engine section of amarok
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> obf213: there's your problem.
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> obf213: you're missing libxine-arts or whatever it is.
[02:32] <altair> Hawkwind:  allright, because I tried the setup specified in some websites and it won let me logon
[02:32] <obf213> yet i have been using amaork for months...
[02:32] <obf213> ill check
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> obf213: well, I thought there was a xine-arts, but maybe it's been incorporated into something else - I don't find it any more.
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> but then I'm on edgy too.
[02:35] <altair> Hawkwind: I tried using talk.gmail.com, and it says server not found
[02:35] <Hawkwind> altair: Have you tried talk.google.com ?
[02:36] <altair> Hawkwind: I'll try that now
[02:36] <Hawkwind> altair: I use that in Gaim and it works.  I think you will need to use that too
[02:36] <Hawkwind> altair: Also, the port is 5222 and you need for it to require TLS
[02:37] <altair> Hawkwind: yay!  It works,  thank you very much!
[02:37] <Hawkwind> altair: You're welcome :)
[02:41] <rahmetli> i can hear from laptop's internal speakers but when i connect external using out jack i cant hear anything,do you have an idea?
[02:42] <crimsun> rahmetli: what's the output from ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''?
[02:43] <rahmetli> is this a command?
[02:43] <crimsun> yes, type it in a Konsole
[02:43] <soulrider> hi everyone
[02:43] <soulrider> im installing kubuntu on my dads comp! I finally convinced him to make the switch! =D
[02:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:43] <rahmetli> let me type it ;)
[02:44] <soulrider> damn, it installs so fast!!!
[02:44] <altair> soulrider: yup it does
[02:45] <soulrider> kubuntu is wonderful!
[02:45] <altair> soulrider: so far I'm pleased too
[02:45] <soulrider> literally, less than 5 minutes to copy all files!
[02:45] <soulrider> beat that redmond!! :P
[02:46] <altair> soulrider: well, my pc isnt't that fast
[02:46] <soulrider> lol Dr_willis
[02:46] <rahmetli> crimsun 0 Realtek ALC880 and 1 USB mixer
[02:46] <soulrider> his pc isnt THAT fast
[02:46] <crimsun> rahmetli: are you using 2.6.15-27?
[02:46] <soulrider> but yes, only 5 minutes to copy the files from the CD to the drive
[02:46] <rahmetli> i am not an advanced user
[02:46] <crimsun> rahmetli: there are a fair number of realtek HDA patches still queued
[02:46] <rahmetli> i dont know
[02:46] <crimsun> rahmetli: uname -r
[02:47] <altair> soulrider:  what's your pc setup?
[02:47] <rahmetli> crimsun 2.6.15-27-386
[02:47] <soulrider> this comp is
[02:47] <soulrider> 2.0 GHz Processor
[02:47] <crimsun> rahmetli: right. You'll need to wait for the new kernel, which fixes that
[02:47] <soulrider> it has 512 MB ram i think too
[02:47] <soulrider> its a good system
[02:47] <soulrider> i htink a 256mb video card
[02:47] <soulrider> but on a slow AGP slot :(
[02:48] <soulrider> im gonna see how his comp sounds, the sound on mine feels crappy :/
[02:48] <soulrider> all noisy
[02:48] <altair> soulrider:  mine is a duron 900Mhz, 256MB, asrock mb, onboard video , winmodem, but it works great
[02:48] <rahmetli> crimsun will the adept do the update when it is ready?
[02:49] <soulrider> yea
[02:49] <soulrider> kubuntu simply rocks! =)
[02:49] <soulrider> im convincing my mom now
[02:49] <crimsun> rahmetli: when it's available, yes
[02:49] <soulrider> whats cooler thhan your mom using linux? nothing!
[02:50] <altair> soulrider:  I'll get 1GB RAM, and that will be good
[02:50] <m0ns00n> your dad using linux?
[02:50] <rahmetli> crimsun but how do you know that there is an issue with the kernel?i am just asking to learn.
[02:50] <soulrider> yup
[02:50] <soulrider> im installing it on his comp right now =)
[02:50] <beavis_> whats even cooler is me banging his mom while shes using linux ;O)
[02:50] <soulrider> hes tired of windows, and now its bitching about it not being an original copy or something
[02:50] <soulrider> beavis_: pray that no OP heard you :X
[02:51] <altair> beavis_: that's rude
[02:51] <altair> beavis_: and out of place here
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> !language
[02:51] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:51] <soulrider> also, really gross
[02:52] <beavis_> lolz , chill out dude, its not the end of the world
[02:52] <altair> beavis_: still, out of place
[02:52] <rahmetli> crimsun but how do you know that there is an issue with the kernel?i am just asking to learn.
[02:53] <altair> soulrider:  the switch will be ok if they're not too attached to specific apps
[02:53] <soulrider> yeah, only problem si AutoCAD
[02:53] <soulrider> but i heard qCad is good
[02:53] <soulrider> and i showed it to him, he used it for a bit and liked it
[02:54] <altair> soulrider:  uhmmm, AutoCAD  i tough to replace
[02:54] <crimsun> rahmetli: because I submit those patches.
[02:54] <soulrider> im gonna have to bring all hisoutlook ontacts and his bookmarks over, but its not too hard
[02:54] <rahmetli> really ?? :D wooww
[02:54] <altair> soulrider:  try to leave the option to dual boot
[02:54] <soulrider> crimsun: is uber :P
[02:54] <soulrider> yup
[02:55] <soulrider> he still has redmond
[02:55] <soulrider> but im gonna spank him if i see him using it :
[02:55] <altair> soulrider: to ease the switch
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> you know what's funny? Take a windows user who has spent the last 5 years re-installing every few months because of viruses, spyware and rootkits, and who has had problems with WGA, and all kinds of other things, and they want nothing to do with Linux, show them xgl/compiz for 2 mins and suddenly they are ready to switch. Stupid priorityless people.
[02:55] <altair> soulrider: and be around, they'll need some help
[02:56] <altair> LeeJunFan: sometimes it's the apps
[02:56] <Dr_willis> 'wheres the .exe files' ! :)
[02:56] <Dr_willis> 'what do ya mean its case senestive!'
[02:57] <rahmetli> crimsun really ?? :D wooww
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> I clicked on this .jpg.exe file in my e-mail from someone I've never heard of and it won't open - linux sux! :)
[02:57] <graft> yo, anyone know how i can use kmplayer as a plugin for firefox?
[02:57] <graft> this mplayer plugin is the pits
[02:58] <graft> in fact, why don't i just use konqueror? i really don't know...
[02:58] <soulrider> LOL Dr_willisat the exe comment
[02:58] <altair> Dr_willis:  as long new users have somone to guide them things can work out
[02:58] <soulrider> i used to ahe that problem actually Dr_willisi knew exes didnt work, but it took me a while to learn that binaries dont have en extentionor some
[02:59] <soulrider> its kidna weird for me stilla
[02:59] <soulrider> and im still learning
[02:59] <soulrider> ive only been using ubuntu for like 2 or 3 months
[02:59] <soulrider> im still a big newbie
[03:00] <altair> soulrider:  Windows largely needs the extension to know what to do with a file, other OS use the contents of the file
[03:01] <soulrider> yea
[03:01] <soulrider> thats what i came to understand after a while
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> other OS'es use magic!
[03:01] <soulrider> lol
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> magic bits. :)
[03:01] <altair> LeeJunFan: yup
[03:02] <soulrider> i wish this had better pppeo support
[03:02] <kanak> hi
[03:02] <kanak> can someone help me
[03:02] <kanak> my sound dont work
[03:02] <kanak> well it does
[03:02] <soulrider> hell probably complain that its hard to connect our dsl connection
[03:02] <kanak> but i cna't listen to music
[03:02] <kanak> why is that?
[03:02] <soulrider> no mp3 ?
[03:02] <kanak> its urnning
[03:02] <kanak> nothing is coming out
[03:02] <Blacken> kanak: Do you have MP3 support installed?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> check the mixers also
[03:02] <kanak> no
[03:02] <kanak> how do i install?
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> !mp3
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:03] <Blacken> Free formats. When are they gonna work on my iPod? ^_^
[03:03] <soulrider> lol
[03:03] <rahmetli> crimsun thank you, thank you alll
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> in short apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:03] <soulrider> i heard the ipod firmware could be upgraded to add support for more filetypes
[03:03] <soulrider> but i dont own one
[03:03] <soulrider> or know anyone that does
[03:03] <soulrider> or can answer my question
[03:03] <Blacken> soulrider: Yes, but I like keeping my warranty intact.
[03:03] <soulrider> so i dont know if its true or not
[03:04] <soulrider> ahh
[03:04] <soulrider> have you installed linux on it yet ?
[03:04] <soulrider> i think thats the first thing i would do lol
[03:04] <kanak> yes
[03:04] <kanak> i am using it right now
[03:04] <soulrider> is it any good ?
[03:04] <soulrider> linux on the gameboy DS must be so cool :P
[03:04] <Blacken> He misunderstood you, soulrider. Thought you were asking him if he was using Linux because of his MP3 problem.
[03:05] <soulrider> oh ok
[03:05] <soulrider> kanak for MP3s to work on kubuntu, you need to install support for mp3 files
[03:05] <Blacken> !mp3 > kanak
[03:05] <soulrider> go tot he links that ubotu gave us a few lines ago
[03:05] <soulrider> or your PMs
[03:05] <soulrider> and follow the instructions
[03:06] <Blacken> As for putting Linux on my iPod--of course not. I like things that work and stay working. iPodLinux is nice for the geek factor, and if I upgrade to another one I might experiment with it on my old one. But...not on one I'd be using regularly.
[03:06] <soulrider> ok
[03:06] <Blacken> Linux is great on the desktop...I'm not touching it when it comes to other devices, unless they come with it. :P
[03:06] <soulrider> i got my CD player that reads MP3s
[03:06] <soulrider> its lovely
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> Blacken: should try rockbox on the ipod, way better than the default
[03:07] <Acc> hello there
[03:07] <soulrider> i wonder if they will make linux for the wii
[03:07] <soulrider> they probably will
[03:07] <soulrider> hi Acc
[03:08] <Acc> can i undo a command in the console?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> I bet its a only a matter of time :P
[03:08] <Blacken> Linux_Galore: Never heard of it.
[03:08] <graft> linux on freaking cell phones, man, that's what we need
[03:08] <Blacken> Acc: No, but you can usually undo the action.
[03:08] <soulrider> graft there is
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> graft: it already is
[03:08] <graft> cell phone platforms have the WORST software
[03:08] <Blacken> Linux IS on cell phones. Or can be put on cell phones.
[03:08] <soulrider> i saw a site some time ago
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> Blacken: Ive put ipodlinux on my video ipod mainly because the default doesnt support "any" of the video files formats I use
[03:08] <soulrider> that had linux for lots of phone models
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> graft: motorola will be using linux a lot on new models.
[03:08] <soulrider> some even come with it
[03:08] <Blacken> Linux_Galore: Mine's too old to be video. :P
[03:08] <graft> uhm, yeah, but your network has to support it, etc., i presume?
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> Blacken: not my ipod works with anything
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> now*
[03:09] <soulrider> graft i dont think so
[03:09] <Acc> yes, i used :   usermod -G video username ------for example, what about undoing this action?
[03:09] <soulrider> probably not
[03:09] <Blacken> graft: Depends on the protocols used.
[03:09] <Blacken> graft: Some protocols are easier to mimic than others.
[03:09] <soulrider> my nokia 3100 cantrun it :(
[03:09] <soulrider> i can run java apps though
[03:09] <soulrider> but no larger than 64 kb :P
[03:10] <LeeJunFan> Acc: for future reference - check out gpasswd for adding users to groups ;)
[03:10] <Acc> yes, i know now i made a mistake, thx
[03:10] <Acc> ;)
[03:10] <graft> java seems like the wrong idea for cell apps - they're already so puny, why weigh it down with all that overhead?
[03:10] <soulrider> i gotta reboot to get on the installed ubuntu
[03:10] <soulrider> brb
[03:11] <Acc> well, is there a way of getting old grousetting back for this certain user?
[03:11] <Blacken> graft: With the right optimizations (basically without the entire bloody J2SE runtime), Java isn't very big.
[03:11] <Blacken> J2ME is not large.
[03:11] <beans> hello everyone
[03:11] <Acc> please help me :)
[03:12] <Blacken> Acc: Just set it back to whatever it was before.
[03:13] <Acc> i would do this, but how do i know which groups the user was in? i really do know i am an elk
[03:13] <Acc> ;)
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> Acc: when setting the entire list of groups then usermod IS what you'll want to use.
[03:13] <Blacken> Acc: Couldn't tell you. Maybe someone else can.
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> Acc: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> Acc: plus of course your username as a group
[03:14] <Acc> it was not the admin-user
[03:15] <Acc> was a second one, do u know the standard setting of this kind of user?
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> Acc: just don't include admin or lpadmin
[03:15] <Acc> ok, thk u
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> unless you want them to be able to add/rem printers and such - then you want lpadmin
[03:16] <Acc> ah, i see... and the username as a group is important why?
[03:16] <LeeJunFan> Acc: you could probably live w/o it - but it's standard that most files are created with the users main group being their own group.
[03:16] <Acc> ok
[03:16] <hermes__> I need a bit of help.  I have my computer dual-booting Windows/Kubuntu and I reinstalled Windows last night w/o thinking about boot isues.  Running through a couple of recovery guides has not worked - in fact I can no longer boot to Windows either, now.  Any help would be appreciated
[03:16] <jeisma> How come kubuntu won't recognize that I have a dvd in my cd drive?
[03:17] <jeisma> so I need certain repositories to play dvds?
[03:17] <kanak> hi
[03:17] <kanak> can someone help me
[03:17] <Acc> thk u very much, and the group adm, what about this?
[03:17] <Acc> isn't it the shortcut for admin=
[03:17] <Acc> ?
[03:17] <kanak> my music files dont work
[03:17] <kanak> wht do i need
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> Acc: so 'sudo usermod -G [username]  -g adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner [username] 
[03:18] <LeeJunFan> !mp3
[03:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:18] <Blacken> hermes__: All you need to do is mount your Linux partition and run grub-install (hd0) again. That'll restore whatever settings GRUB has.
[03:18] <LeeJunFan> kanak: read that link ^^
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: you also want to read the above link for restricted formats
[03:19] <hermes__> Blacken:  Any instructions on that?  I'm not certain how to do that.
[03:19] <altair> !automatix
[03:19] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:19] <altair> kanak: automatix did that for me
[03:20] <altair> kanak:  you can install videolan (vlc) too
[03:20] <kanak> where can i install that?
[03:21] <Acc> ok, i'll put all my trust in u and will take this as a lesson... not to use commands without absolute knowledge
[03:21] <Acc> thx
[03:22] <kanak> hello
[03:22] <LeeJunFan> Acc: :) np.
[03:22] <kanak> where can i dl videolan (
[03:22] <kanak> ?
[03:22] <LeeJunFan> although to learn to fix things you must first break them :)
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> kanak: use adept
[03:23] <altair> !vlc
[03:23] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> !adept
[03:23] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:23] <hermes__> Blacken:  Simply running sudo grubinstall hd0 returns the error "Could not find device for /boot:..."
[03:24] <kanak> ok i did
[03:24] <kanak> now wht
[03:25] <Acc> learning linux from the beginning isn't as easy but i think, not giving it in will do it
[03:25] <Acc> no step back to windows on this desktop
[03:26] <Acc> gn8 everyone :)
[03:26] <kanak> ok
[03:26] <kanak> it says
[03:26] <kanak> vlan
[03:26] <kanak> not installed
[03:26] <kanak> i clicked on request install
[03:26] <kanak> now it says no install then install
[03:27] <altair> kanak: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[03:27] <nimnrod> whats the diference between purge and uninstall?
[03:27] <LeeJunFan> really wouldn't it be easier to just install libxine-extracodecs , quit amarok, start amarok - viola - mp3's play.
[03:28] <LeeJunFan> nimnrod: purge erases config files, uninstall leaves them behind.
[03:29] <nimnrod> so i wouldnt really free more space purging.... right?
[03:29] <kanak> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:29] <kanak> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:29] <kanak> it says that when i run it in shell
[03:29] <LeeJunFan> nimnrod: not much.
[03:30] <nimnrod> what if i installed an app and that application required some other packages but now i want to uninstall the app and also the packages that i was forced to install with it?
[03:30] <LeeJunFan> kanak: only one application can be using the packaging manager at a time - you probably still have adept open.
[03:30] <LeeJunFan> nimnrod: there's really not a great way to do that. however deborphan can find libs that are installed but no apps depend on them.
[03:30] <kanak> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[03:31] <LeeJunFan> so can aptitude
[03:31] <kanak> i typed
[03:31] <kanak> sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[03:31] <nimnrod> deborphan.... and its safe to use?
[03:31] <LeeJunFan> nimnrod: yeah.
[03:31] <nimnrod> ok.. thank you
[03:31] <kanak>  make sure you have a "universe" repository activated.
[03:31] <kanak> wht is that?
[03:32] <kanak>  "universe" repository activated.
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> nimnrod: deborphan will just give you a list, there are other ones that are frontends to deborphan that will remove them for you as well, but I forget their name - adept search for deborphan will probably reveal them.
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> !repos
[03:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:32] <Acc> is there any meaning to the first small gid=123(groupname)   ? when i use id to check groups?
[03:32] <LeeJunFan> kanak: see that link above.
[03:32] <Acc> something as an initial group or something?
[03:32] <kanak> ok
[03:33] <nimnrod> how do i run deborphan?
[03:34] <nimnrod> oh.. nevermind
[03:34] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:34] <soulrider> im back
[03:35] <soulrider> but with a problem, im trying to compile something but in when i do ./configure i get an error saying that i dont have hte x includes installed
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> Acc: gid= is the main group a user is in.
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> which is normally the same as the username
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> Acc: that's the one that's set with -g in usermod
[03:35] <nimnrod> hmmm
[03:36] <soulrider> i get this: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes
[03:36] <nimnrod> how do i run deborphan? or how do i use it?
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> nimnrod: just run it - it will give you a list of libs it can remove because nothing depends on them.
[03:36] <Acc> ah, ok, if i use usermod -g guest username  <<--- will then guest be the main group?
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> then you can dpkg -r [packagename] 
[03:37] <jeisma> I have a problem- No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:/)
[03:37] <jeisma> what do i need to do?
[03:37] <Acc> or will it mess it up again?
[03:37] <nimnrod> runt it from where? i dont see it anywhere... i tried a Alt+F2 deborphan but didnt work
[03:37] <soulrider> LeeJunFan: any idea of what my error means ?
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> or if you're brave run this for x in `deborphan` ; do dpkg -r ${x} ; done and it wil remove them all.
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> nimnrod: open a konsole.
[03:37] <Xyz_> Hello. I installed Kubuntu from a CD i received today and chose for it to install on /dev/sda3.  It installed fine, but my computer reboots into windows.  How do I boot into Kubuntu?
[03:37] <nimnrod> oh...
[03:38] <nimnrod> haha.. sorry thank you
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> nimnrod: btw - I don't really recommend running deborphan as listed above - better to manually review what it's going to do.
[03:38] <Xyz_> (grub ran, but i'm not sure what it did..)
[03:38] <nimnrod> what do u mean?
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> soulrider: you need to install the -dev packages for xorg
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> !xorg-dev
[03:38] <ubotu> xorg-dev: the X.Org development libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[03:39] <soulrider> ohh ok, thanks!
[03:39] <miyako> ok, I have kind of a dumb question, but I'm using this application and it lists the shortcut keys as "super + <whatever>"...what is the super key?
[03:39] <jeisma> I have a xine error on Kafeeine Player - 'no plugin found to handle this resouce (dvd:/) what plugin do i download?
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> !dvd
[03:39] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: ^^
[03:40] <jeisma> i have libdvd css LeeJunFan
[03:40] <Acc> LeeJunFan: ah, ok, if i use usermod -g guest username  <<--- will then guest be the main group? or will this mess it up again ?
[03:40] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: did you install from adept or apt-get? those are neutered because of copyright issues.
[03:41] <jeisma> i got them from adept and installed from the terminal using the sudo command LeeJunFan
[03:41] <kanak> ok
[03:41] <kanak> i installed vlan
[03:41] <jeisma> LeeJunFan what do i need to do then?
[03:41] <Xyz_> anyone know where i could get help for this booting problem? :)
[03:41] <kanak> so now i should be bale to listen to mp3?
[03:41] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: follow the instructions in that link above.
[03:41] <kanak> it still not working
[03:41] <LeeJunFan> Acc: guest will be the main group, it shouldn't touch -G
[03:42] <kanak> why isn't it still working?
[03:42] <LeeJunFan> Acc: as long as you don't specify -G it won't overwrite the minor list of groups.
[03:42] <kanak> it says Vlan installed
[03:43] <Acc> i'm getting nearer the -G problem, thx again and good night (seriously) *g
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: that restricted formats page has info on all that too.
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> !restricted
[03:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:43] <jeisma> LeeJunFan: would it be easier if i downloaded totem movie player and got all the stuff for that instead?
[03:44] <jeisma> LeeJunFan: cause i already did that stuff
[03:44] <kanak> anyone tehre?
[03:44] <kanak> plz someone help me
[03:45] <orient2000> Xyz did you install linux on the same HD with windows?
[03:45] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: you already ran sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh ?
[03:45] <jeisma> LeeJunFan yes
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> kanak: here's what I recommend, open konsole, run 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs', use amarok to play mp3's.
[03:46] <kanak> k
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: hrm, not sure what the issue is then, I've installed my libdvdcss from source.
[03:47] <kanak> thx
[03:47] <kanak> its done
[03:47] <kanak> now it hsould work?
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> kanak: amarok should play mp3's if that library is installed.
[03:47] <jeisma> LeeJunFan: did i not install from source?
[03:47] <rod> hi, i'm having problems with kubuntu not shutting down on my laptop.  when i try it kde dissapears and i see the kubuntu screen (with the progress bar at 0) and it stops there.  i looked at the syslog and the last message is just that it's trying to shutdown, can anyone give me clues for other places to look to help solve this problem?  cheers.
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> kanak: if amarok was already running when you installed then you must first quit amarok.
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: I compiled mine, I'm really not sure what that script does :(
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> I just know it's worked for others.
[03:49] <kanak> nothing happend
[03:49] <kanak> it says playlist finished
[03:49] <kanak> wen i clikc play
[03:50] <kanak> on the bottom it says no tracks turned to be on or something
[03:50] <oheard> kanak: Amarok?
[03:50] <kanak> retuerned to be interserd
[03:50] <kanak> yes
[03:50] <kanak> i am trying to listen from a cd
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> kanak: mp3's on a CD?
[03:51] <kanak> yeah i think so
[03:51] <kanak> no they wav
[03:51] <delusions> hi everybody, sorry its my first time with kubuntu and dont have much time to search, i couldnt find alsaconf, what do i need to install ?
[03:51] <oheard> kanak: run "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" konsole.
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> kanak: is this just a regular music CD that will play in any old player?
[03:51] <kanak> ok
[03:52] <LeeJunFan> oheard: I've already had him do that, they aren't mp3's.
[03:52] <oheard> Fair enough.
[03:52] <kanak> ok
[03:52] <kanak> it says
[03:52] <kanak> E: Couldn't find package libxine-extracodec
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> although: [21:41]  <kanak> so now i should be bale to listen to mp3?    --- kind of tossed me in the wrong direction :-/
[03:53] <oheard> delusions: if you search google for "alsaconf" it's one of the first results.
[03:53] <kanak> ohh srry
[03:53] <kanak> well i can't listen to any music...
[03:53] <kanak> :(
[03:53] <oheard> kanak: s on the end of codecs.
[03:53] <kanak> so whts does this mean
[03:53] <kanak> k
[03:53] <delusions> oheard: so i should compile it by hand?
[03:54] <oheard> delusions: I'm not sure which package it's in so it might be worth it.
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> kanak: you should be able to listen to a normal music CD w/o any extra packages.
[03:54] <kanak> Reading package lists... Done
[03:54] <kanak> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:54] <kanak> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[03:54] <kanak> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[03:54] <jeisma> LeeJunFan: after i do that command in the terminal for the libdvdcss or whatever, should I restart my computer?
[03:54] <oheard> kanak: because of patent issues the ubuntu developers can't ship kubuntu with mp3 support, that package adds it. :-)
[03:54] <oheard> kanak: since installing that have to restarted amarok?
[03:55] <delusions> interesting, i installed alsa releated everything but theres no alsaconf :)
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> oheard: it's a music CD.
[03:55] <delusions> oheard: thanks for help,
[03:55] <oheard> LeeJunFan: you can never be too sure.
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> kanak: go to multimedia in your k-menu and run kscd
[03:55] <kanak> k
[03:55] <oheard> I need to sleep, night.
[03:55] <kanak> ok now wht
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: no, you should not ever have to reboot linux unless you re-install a new kernel.
[03:55] <kanak> click play?
[03:56] <kanak> its playing
[03:56] <kanak> can't hear anthing
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> kanak: :)
[03:56] <kanak> anything*
[03:56] <jeisma> jeisma: ha, i reboot often because my computer freezes up often
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> kanak: check your volumes.
[03:56] <jeisma> oops
[03:56] <kanak> its readign from CD
[03:56] <kanak> i can hear sound
[03:56] <kanak> when i clicked the backspace on teh shell
[03:56] <kanak> the lound error noice
[03:56] <kanak> so i know my sound works
[03:56] <kanak> but music dont workk
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: your computer freezes up often? with linux?
[03:57] <kanak> where is my voulume controls?
[03:57] <LeeJunFan> kanak: there's other volume controls for things like CD and PCM
[03:57] <kanak> ok
[03:57] <kanak> where can i access that
[03:57] <LeeJunFan> kanak: there should be a speaker in your task tray, click that, then click the mixer button.
[03:57] <kanak> ok
[03:58] <kanak> ok
[03:58] <kanak> only one green light
[03:58] <kanak> well 2 are one
[03:58] <kanak> master
[03:58] <kanak> and pcm
[03:58] <kanak> those are green
[03:58] <LeeJunFan> kanak: that's probably all you need, check input for CD, make sure that's up and green.
[03:58] <kanak> light up
[03:59] <kanak> ok
[03:59] <kanak> cd icon
[03:59] <kanak> also has green
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> kanak: is volume up on it?
[03:59] <kanak> on the bootm
[03:59] <kanak> the CD
[03:59] <kanak> is not on
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> kanak: that's okay - that one doesn't need to be.
[03:59] <kanak> now its red and grren
[03:59] <kanak> ok
[03:59] <kanak> the green is on
[04:00] <kanak> only for cd icon
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> kanak: how old is your cdrom drive/computer?
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> your drive may not support DAO, digital audio extraction.
[04:00] <kanak> computer is new
[04:00] <kanak> i have win xp pro on otehr hd
[04:01] <kanak> wht about the switches?
[04:01] <kanak> anything important in there?
[04:01] <kanak> i am getting a lot of staic form my speakers tho
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> kanak: try this in kscd. see the extras button at the bottom right corner? click it - go to properties.
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> kanak: err, configure kscd
[04:02] <kanak> k
[04:02] <kanak> now hwt
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> in the cd device section, checkmark direct digital playback
[04:02] <kanak> under music for aloow music
[04:02] <kanak> its not chcked
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> in the select audio device put /dev/cdrom
[04:03] <kanak> checked
[04:03] <kanak> alow encoding..
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> kanak: don't worry about that.
[04:03] <kanak> ok
[04:04] <LeeJunFan> kanak: after you check digital playback and put /dev/cdrom in device hit ok, then try playing your CD.
[04:04] <LeeJunFan> kanak: also do you have more than one CD drive?
[04:04] <kanak> yes
[04:04] <kanak> 2
[04:04] <kanak> dvd
[04:04] <kanak> and cdw
[04:05] <LeeJunFan> any luck playing?
[04:05] <kanak> so i click use direct digital playback?
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> kanak: yeah, and put /dev/cdrom in the device to use.
[04:06] <_pdd> df
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> there's always the possibility it's trying to use the wrong drive.
[04:07] <kanak> u mean put the cd in the drive?
[04:07] <kanak> ok i did that do i clikc ok?
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> yeah.
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> then try playing.
[04:08] <kanak> wht should i put for selse audio divice?
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> kanak: /dev/cdrom
[04:08] <kanak> ok
[04:08] <kanak> then ok?
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> try to play.
[04:09] <kanak> uyes
[04:09] <kanak> yes
[04:09] <kanak> thx so much
[04:09] <kanak> works
[04:09] <kanak> woot
[04:09] <LeeJunFan> kanak: cool - you're welcome.
[04:09] <kanak> wht if i want to play music from a Removeable usb drive?
[04:09] <kanak> like a mp3 player
[04:09] <kanak> will it still work?
[04:09] <LeeJunFan> kanak: for that you use amarok
[04:10] <kanak> k
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> kanak: and since you've installed the libxine-extracodecs already - that should just work.
[04:10] <kanak> lets see
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> so I guess that diversion wasn't in vein :)
[04:10] <kanak> nope
[04:10] <kanak> i clikc actions
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> kanak: nope it wont' play?
[04:10] <kanak> play mdiea
[04:10] <kanak> picked file
[04:11] <kanak> click play it says finished playlist or soemthing
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> is it an mp3 or a wma?
[04:11] <kanak> on the bottom it says no playlist were returned to be inserted
[04:12] <kanak> mp3
[04:12] <kanak> now it says no tracks
[04:12] <rjian> hello can anyone help me.. im using Ubuntu i want to change it to kubuntu?? is it possible to shift or upgrade it using cds of kubuntu?
[04:12] <LeeJunFan> kanak: don't know that error but it sounds like it was looking for a playlist and didn't find one.
[04:12] <kanak> but i click on a file
[04:12] <jeisma> LeeJunFan: is it fine that when i try and install from adept, and it gets to the point where it's "Downloading..." is it it ok if it's there for a long time?
[04:13] <jeisma> LeeJunFan: because it's been like that for 10min now
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: no - hit the details button and see if it shows anything.
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: it may be waiting for user input.
[04:13] <sync350> What should I do about this: when I play a mpeg video in most of my video players, I can watch the video fine, but there is no sound.
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> kanak: try just browsing to a file with konqueror (click the usb drive icon on your desktop) and brows to an mp3 file and try to open it from there.
[04:14] <jeisma> LeeJunFan: thats what is shows.. its at 35% and it under details it says all the packages that were selected and unpacked and then the last line says "Downloading..."
[04:14] <rjian> can anyone help me?
[04:15] <LeeJunFan> kanak: it will probably open with kaffeine by default but it should play, you should be able to right click and choose amarok under open with.
[04:15] <jeisma> LeeJunFan: and before it says "Downloading..." it says Setting up flashplugin-nonfree
[04:15] <LeeJunFan> rjian: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <kanak> works
[04:15] <kanak> now woot
[04:15] <kanak> wierd
[04:15] <kanak> a sec a go didn't work
[04:15] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: how many packages did you select?
[04:15] <kanak> thx again
[04:16] <kanak> one question
[04:16] <rjian> leeJunFan: i dont have internet connection.. i only have cd's it is possible??
[04:16] <kanak> how do i install firefox.. i did wht it say i got lost
[04:16] <kanak> i dled it
[04:16] <kanak> its in my home folder
[04:16] <LeeJunFan> kanak: sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:16] <jeisma> LeeJunFan it sas it selected and unpacked 6 packages
[04:16] <Blacken> kanak: sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:16] <sync350> rjian: how are you on IRC without internet connection?
[04:16] <kanak> lol
[04:16] <kanak> wow simple
[04:17] <rjian> sync250 im using different computer..
[04:17] <sync350> ah
[04:17] <kanak> how do i makea new fodler on my desktop?
[04:17] <kanak> foudn it
[04:17] <kanak> nvm
[04:17] <rjian> i want to upgrade Ubuntu to kubuntu without using cds it is possible??
[04:17] <sync350> yes
[04:18] <sync350> !google kubuntu
[04:18] <rjian> can anyone teach me how??????
[04:18] <Dr_willis> trivial.. and mentioned in the faq/kubuntu web site :P
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google kubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <LeeJunFan> rjian: it is if you have internet connection
[04:18] <sync350> !kubuntu
[04:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[04:18] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <sync350> go to those links
[04:18] <Dr_willis> and ya got them both.
[04:18] <kanak> ok
[04:18] <jeisma> What's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[04:18] <kanak> i am doing the sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:18] <sync350> o... hehe, Dr_willis's way is easier
[04:18] <sync350> kubuntu is kde, ubuntu uses gnome
[04:18] <kanak> will it appear in my k panel?
[04:18] <kanak> udner Ineter?
[04:18] <kanak> Internet*
[04:18] <jeisma> what is the different beween kde and gnome?
[04:18] <kanak> Firefox?
[04:18] <LeeJunFan> why the !#$ would anyone downgrade kubuntu?
[04:19] <sync350> two different desktop environments
[04:19] <sync350> !gnome
[04:19] <kanak> ok its done
[04:19] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:19] <sync350> !kde
[04:19] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:19] <kanak> now hwt?
[04:19] <Dr_willis> yes it makes an icon in the menus
[04:19] <kanak> i dont see firefox there?
[04:19] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: gnome is well... hrm.... just use KDE it rocks.
[04:19] <sync350> anyway, anyone got any info on my mpeg problem?
[04:20] <jeisma> ha ok
[04:20] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: gnome hides a lot of useful features in the name of being non-confusing for windows converts, kde doesn't do that so much.
[04:20] <kanak> how do i run firefox now?
[04:20] <kanak> i dont see it under Internet tab in k panel
[04:20] <Dr_willis> the menus aint refreshed yet..
[04:20] <LeeJunFan> jeisma: so gnome may not overwhelm so many people, but then I find gnome lacking a lot of things I like.
[04:20] <kanak> how do i do that?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> thers some command to do it.. or just log out of kde and back in.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> or just run firefox from, a terminal or alt-f2
[04:21] <LeeJunFan> kanak: alt-f2 then kbuildsyscoca
[04:21] <LeeJunFan> kbuildsycoca
[04:21] <Dr_willis> i never can reamber  kbuildsyscoca
[04:21] <LeeJunFan> not sys - sry
[04:22] <kanak> ok i did that
[04:22] <kanak> nothing happend
[04:22] <kanak> kbuildsycoca
[04:22] <LeeJunFan> kanak: now check under internet in menu
[04:22] <kanak> woot
[04:22] <kanak> haha
[04:22] <kanak> thx
[04:22] <kanak> i love u guys
[04:22] <kanak> i am learning so much
[04:23] <Martijn81> Dr_willis: perhaps tab type completion can help you
[04:23] <LeeJunFan> kanak: the reason for that is firefox package is not KDE smart so it doesn't cause menu refresh when it installs as installing kde apps will.
[04:23] <sync350> What should I do about this: when I play a mpeg video in most of my video players, I can watch the video fine, but there is no sound.
[04:24] <kanak> ohh
[04:24] <Dr_willis> I cant even rember the first letters. :P
[04:24] <Dr_willis> thats just one of those commands ive rarely (never?) needed.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> kbuildsycoca  Rebuilds the system configuration cache
[04:25] <kanak> ok
[04:25] <kanak> i installed this prgram
[04:25] <Dr_willis> at least the name makes a LITTLE sence now.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:25] <kanak> how can i run it without using shell?
[04:25] <kanak> where would it be?
[04:25] <Dr_willis> run what?
[04:25] <kanak> i aalready ran it in shell
[04:25] <kanak> its called
[04:25] <kanak> byond
[04:26] <kanak> it used for makign games
[04:26] <kanak> hosting games
[04:26] <Dr_willis> make a launcher for it on the panel.
[04:26] <kanak> its like c++
[04:26] <Dr_willis> or desktop
[04:26] <kanak> its free
[04:26] <kanak> how?
[04:26] <soulrider> damn, im trying to compile something and i get this
[04:26] <soulrider>  error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:26] <soulrider> i cant find any KDE header packages :/
[04:28] <kanak> also wht is the command ot install aim?
[04:28] <soulrider> theres no AIM
[04:28] <soulrider> but you can use Kopete
[04:28] <kanak> i am using that
[04:28] <kanak> it sucks
[04:28] <kanak> lol
[04:28] <soulrider> or you can also install GAIM, its like kopete
[04:28] <kanak> no sound
[04:28] <kanak> i can't send file
[04:28] <kanak> on aim site
[04:28] <kanak> it says there is linux version of aim
[04:28] <kanak> http://aim.com
[04:29] <soulrider> cant visit it now
[04:29] <soulrider> download it then
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> !kopete
[04:29] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB
[04:29] <Kr4t05> kanak: It sucks, use kopete
[04:29] <soulrider> see if they ahve a .deb package
[04:29] <kanak> ok
[04:29] <kanak> whts command for it
[04:29] <kanak> kopete
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> kanak: it should be installed on your system under internet menu.
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> or, maybe it says it's optional but I think it's default in kubuntu-desktop.
[04:30] <kanak> i am using it
[04:30] <kanak> but
[04:30] <kanak> how much i dont hear sound
[04:30] <kanak> when someone ims me and stuff
[04:30] <kanak> and i can't send file and stuff like on aim....
[04:31] <kanak> can u do that for on kopete
[04:31] <ubuntu> Hello, I need a favor urgent, pls, my ubuntu doen-t start :( I got this error : failed server X, the graphic interfaz
[04:31] <ubuntu> what can I do
[04:31] <ubuntu> i got all my docs there
[04:31] <Dr_willis> the official AIM by the AIM guys - is very out of date.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> gaim is a much better program
[04:31] <Blacken> Dr_willis: Haha, yeah. AIM is a joke.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  reconfgigure your X server? have you ever had that system working?
[04:32] <ubuntu> Drwillis: yes some hours ago
[04:32] <kanak> how do i use gaim then?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Ubugtu,  and wht did you that broke it? what video card ya got anyway?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> kanak,  install it.. and run it
[04:34] <ubuntu> Drwillis: I have  a ATI intel I guess
[04:34] <kanak> k
[04:34] <ubuntu> Drwillis: how can I install it
[04:34] <kanak> with gaim
[04:34] <kanak> can i use my aim sn?
[04:35] <kanak> nice
[04:35] <kanak> i like it
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !ati
[04:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:36] <Dr_willis> follow the ati guides there ubuntu  and install the fglrx drivers..    and the term 'ATI Intel' cant be right.. since they are 2 different companies. :P
[04:36] <Dr_willis> lspci -> will show what cards are on your system
[04:37] <otaku-san> Anyone know of any good FTP Clients for Linux?
[04:37] <Dr_willis> ftp in the console, mc, gftp,  dozens of them,
[04:38] <Dr_willis> the file managers can even access ftp sites
[04:38] <Dr_willis> !ftp
[04:38] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:38] <otaku-san> hmmmm...heard of gftp
[04:38] <otaku-san> konqueror does FTP?
[04:39] <Dr_willis> gnomes file manager can access ftp sites directly.. as can konqueror
[04:39] <otaku-san> ya nautilus
[04:39] <otaku-san> I think I heard that
[04:39] <otaku-san> ....somewhere
[04:39] <Dr_willis> 'remote places' -> system:/remote  add network folder --> ftp
[04:39] <otaku-san> hmmmm I'm just trying to send files from my comp to a hosting server
[04:40] <Dr_willis> konqeror can do it
[04:40] <otaku-san> ....might go to slow....it crawls for some reason..when firefox goes fast
[04:40] <otaku-san> the connection that is
[04:41] <soulrider> im trying to compile something and i get this error
[04:41] <otaku-san> it's kinda odd....Opera goes fast...Firefox...but Konqueror goes to dialup
[04:41] <soulrider> error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:41] <otaku-san> whoa make sure to pastebin it
[04:41] <soulrider> any ideas?
[04:41] <otaku-san> ok it's small
[04:41] <soulrider> ;)
[04:41] <soulrider> Opera rocks
[04:41] <otaku-san> ........hmmm that error is familiar
[04:42] <Dr_willis> You did install the kde developer packages?
[04:42] <otaku-san> I think that means you need more repos...what are you trying to down?
[04:42] <otaku-san> I mean compile
[04:42] <kanak> ok
[04:42] <soulrider> rpppoek
[04:43] <soulrider> rppppoek
[04:43] <otaku-san> .....thats a lot of p's
[04:43] <kanak> so how do i make  a launcher for it on the panel or desktop for a program i installed
[04:43] <soulrider> so my dad can connect to our dsl more easily
[04:43] <kanak> and ran with shell
[04:43] <otaku-san> ahhh
[04:43] <kanak> http://byond.com
[04:43] <kanak> itsa great site
[04:43] <kanak> for gaming
[04:43] <Dr_willis> right click and look at the menus
[04:43] <kanak> people make games and u can also play games
[04:43] <kanak> its free
[04:43] <otaku-san> ....thats spammin man
[04:43] <Dr_willis> This aint ROcket Surgery. :P its rather logical.
[04:44] <otaku-san> rocket surgery? ;)
[04:44] <otaku-san> I thought rocket science or brain surgery!  heheh ;p
[04:44] <soulrider> so, otaku-sanany ideas ?
[04:44] <kanak> itsa exe file
[04:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:44] <Dr_willis> wtf are ya doing with a .exe file?
[04:45] <kanak> wll
[04:45] <kanak> well
[04:45] <soulrider> !easysource
[04:45] <kanak> its not a exe
[04:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:45] <kanak> its weird
[04:45] <otaku-san> soulrider: first, how does your repos float...I mean how many do you have?
[04:45] <kanak> i unziped it
[04:45] <kanak> ran it
[04:45] <soulrider> its a fresh install
[04:45] <kanak> after i unzip theres 3 things
[04:45] <kanak> Dream Seeker
[04:45] <soulrider> and i just enabled universe
[04:45] <kanak> Dream Maker
[04:45] <Dr_willis> ran what?  executables under liniux do NOT have .exe on the end
[04:45] <kanak> Dream Deaemon
[04:45] <otaku-san> soulrider: ok then you need more repos
[04:45] <kanak> used for fidd things
[04:45] <kanak> i used DreamDAemon to host my server
[04:45] <kanak> its hostign right now
[04:46] <kanak> i only know how to use those prograsm using shell
[04:46] <soulrider> but i wanna compile :/
[04:46] <otaku-san> soulrider: let me get you a cool tut that gets more repos for u
[04:46] <kanak> on windows its just click
[04:46] <kanak> Seeker is used to play it
[04:46] <kanak> but u can't play it on shell
[04:46] <kanak> lol
[04:46] <otaku-san> soulrider: compiling needs repos!
[04:46] <kanak> no pic
[04:46] <kanak> i dont know how u can just run it so u can see the game...
[04:46] <kanak> http://byond.com
[04:47] <Dr_willis> I think youve managed to confuse everyone here.
[04:47] <otaku-san> soulrider: whats up is that the app your trying to compile is missing a little something
[04:47] <kanak> LOL
[04:47] <kanak> sorry
[04:47] <kanak> http://games.byond.com/hub/Kanak/DragonballZen
[04:47] <kanak> this is the site
[04:47] <kanak> for my game
[04:47] <kanak> you need to downalod byond
[04:47] <kanak> the linux version
[04:47] <kanak> and then use DreamSeeker to play/join games
[04:47] <kanak> gibve it a try
[04:47] <kanak> :)
[04:47] <kanak> itsa 2d game
[04:48] <kanak> this is the only reason i installed linux... just to host the game
[04:48] <kanak> i was using windows before for past 3 years
[04:48] <kanak> it sucks on windows lol
[04:48] <otaku-san> soulrider: so you have to find that little....god theres a word for the thing I'm talking about....but go ahead and get these repos on the box...always good to have repos
[04:48] <kanak> i used linux shell servers before but i dotn have that much moeny anymore to pay monhtly for a shell
[04:49] <otaku-san> soulrider: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[04:49] <otaku-san> soulrider: then search in the file your trying to compile for a ReadMe...or install guide...it may have your missing bit
[04:50] <otaku-san> soulrider: the bad thing about compiling is that you need (just remembered the word) packages here...and packages there
[04:50] <soulrider> yeabut
[04:51] <otaku-san> hence compiling
[04:51] <soulrider> immissigna  package
[04:51] <soulrider> and i dont know whic one it is
[04:51] <otaku-san> ya
[04:51] <soulrider> i compiled it before on ym pc
[04:51] <soulrider> with no problems
[04:51] <soulrider> and the readme doesnt really say anything
[04:51] <vilefridge> quick question-  Let's say I have Windows previously installed on hda and just Kubuntu installed on hdb.  Where did the bootloader go? hda or hdb?
[04:51] <otaku-san> ...that means you had the package and your dads install doesn't
[04:52] <otaku-san> oh man I saw the answer to this not to long ago
[04:52] <otaku-san> .....hold on
[04:52] <otaku-san> you mean two seperate drives? or partitions
[04:52] <kbee> vilefridge: do you get the grub menu?
[04:52] <vilefridge> otaku-san: two separate drives
[04:53] <Dr_willis> DreamDaemon
[04:53] <Dr_willis> DreamDaemon: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:53] <vilefridge> kbee: yeah, It's just a hypothetical question
[04:53] <otaku-san> vilefridge: If I'm not mistaken....it goes on the kubuntu side
[04:53] <vilefridge> Just want to know which drive it would go to, by default
[04:53] <Dr_willis> I think you can give up on that for now...  they got it  compiled with a different lib version it seems.
[04:54] <kbee> vilefridge: it will probably go on the  hdb  by default
[04:54] <vilefridge> thanks otaku-san, kbee :)
[04:54] <otaku-san> vilefridge: no prob
[04:55] <otaku-san> soulrider: check the site
[04:55] <otaku-san> of the file your compiling
[04:55] <otaku-san> search the package name it's self on google
[04:57] <soulrider> i did
[04:57] <soulrider> and i seem to ave all of the requirements
[04:57] <soulrider> http://segfaultskde.berlios.de/index.php?content=rppppoek
[04:57] <otaku-san> hmmmm...this is odd
[04:57] <otaku-san> post the question again...we have new blood
[04:57] <otaku-san> hehehe ;)
[04:58] <otaku-san> the answer is there...I've hit this roadblock before...I just can't remember
[04:58] <otaku-san> Ahh off that topic...whats a good something on Kubuntu to change .wav format to mp3 or ogg
[04:59] <otaku-san> .wav on Amarok has a habit of cutting a few seconds into the beginning of the song...mp3 and ogg don't
[05:00] <otaku-san> make that wma
[05:00] <jo3y> hi
[05:00] <otaku-san> not .wav
[05:00] <jo3y> so if i use synaptic to install apache and perl and all that
[05:00] <jo3y> where is it stored
[05:00] <jo3y> what directory?
[05:00] <jo3y> (anyone from northeast oregon in here?)
[05:02] <jo3y> no one?
[05:02] <jo3y> uses synaptic?
[05:02] <otaku-san> I haven't dabbled in synaptic too much
[05:02] <Jucato> probably no one here who's familiar with apache/perl
[05:02] <otaku-san> .....hmmm perl is kinda a background app
[05:02] <jo3y> well i guess its built in to simplify installation of packages on ubuntu
[05:03] <Jucato> because whatever package manager you use (Synaptic, Adept, apt-get, etc), they will all be placed in the same location
[05:03] <jo3y> its not just apache and perl and such
[05:03] <otaku-san> if you make a perl script it'll just work
[05:03] <jo3y> theres a ton of installable apps
[05:03] <Jucato> Synaptic isn't built in in Kubuntu
[05:03] <jo3y> oh
[05:03] <otaku-san> use Adept
[05:03] <jo3y> apt-get Adept :D
[05:03] <jo3y> jk
[05:03] <jo3y> kinda
[05:03] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: long time no see?
[05:03] <Jucato> Synaptic (Ubuntu) == Adept (Kubuntu)
[05:04] <otaku-san> I was wondering
[05:04] <jo3y> thank you Jucato
[05:04] <Jucato> jo3y: I'm not familiar where apache or perl would be placed,  since I'm not sure if they're like ordinary programs/executables
[05:05] <jo3y> I think theyre more like services
[05:05] <jo3y> this is my first day on ubuntu
[05:05] <jo3y> well linux too ^_^
[05:05] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Hey hey hey :) ^_^
[05:05] <Jucato> sorry, no clue... :(
[05:06] <jo3y> is kubuntu cool?
[05:06] <otaku-san> Jucato: Perl is kinda like Wine...in that you don't see it until you have an app that uses it..
[05:06] <jo3y> for some reason, konversation sends me here by default
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> jo3y: Only if you like cool stuff :)
[05:06] <otaku-san> jo3y: is it cool?  Course it's cool
[05:06] <jo3y> hey!
[05:06] <Jucato> jo3y: hm.. are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:06] <jo3y> i like cool stuff!!
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Perl is a scripting language. Plain and simple. :P
[05:06] <jo3y> the former
[05:06] <jo3y> ubuntu
[05:06] <Dr_willis> perl is very handy to learn and learn to use. :)
[05:07] <DaSkreech> jo3y: I suggest you get the Live CD and try it out for a while to see how much Kool you kan handle
[05:07] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: I like your logic...straight to the core...not to mention another Perl fan
[05:07] <jo3y> im a php guy myself, but i still want cgi support :)
[05:07] <jo3y> mm i like live cds
[05:07] <DaSkreech> jo3y: If you like I can show you how to get Konversation to send you to #Ubuntu
[05:07] <jo3y> Thank you very much, but is that channel on this server?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Yes it is
[05:08] <Jucato> actually it's #ubuntu
[05:08] <jo3y> i got it, but thank you
[05:08] <DaSkreech> You can Klick on the blue word #ubuntu to see :)
[05:08] <jo3y> nice people...
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Check the Server settings - normally they got an autojoin settings.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> i tend to use xchat.
[05:08] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Why was that stupid?
[05:08] <otaku-san> whoo hoo xchater too
[05:09] <Dr_willis> im using xcaht 2.4 :P
[05:09] <jo3y> well, im not a complete newb, i was just wondering why a fresh ubuntu install would got to #kubuntu as opposed to #ubuntu
[05:09] <Dr_willis> 2.6 sucks
[05:09] <jo3y> I tried to install bitchx but failed
[05:09] <DaSkreech> jo3y: It's the App
[05:09] <Dr_willis> how did it 'fail' ?
[05:09] <jo3y> roger that
[05:09] <DaSkreech> It expects KDE so it assumes you probably want #kubuntu
[05:09] <Jucato> I'm more puzzled why a fresh Ubuntu install would have Konversation installed?
[05:09] <jo3y> hahaha
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Me too
[05:09] <DaSkreech>  :)
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  me also
[05:10] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: well I am probably 1 going to use more stuff that needs PHP over ASP...and PHP is open source...ASP in Microsoft
[05:10] <otaku-san> forget the 1 hehehe
[05:10] <jo3y> well, I looked up how to install bitchx... im not familiar with the associated shell commands
[05:10] <jo3y> and it said to use synaptic to get it
[05:10] <jo3y> but bitchx is not listed
[05:10] <Jucato> XChat would be installed in Kubuntu by default right?
[05:10] <Jucato> er.. s/Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[05:10] <otaku-san> Jucato: no
[05:10] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Ok two good reasons :)
[05:11] <jo3y> it is on my ubuntu
[05:11] <otaku-san> Jucato: had to get a repo and then apt get it
[05:11] <jo3y> i just recognized the K scheme from using Suse
[05:11] <Jucato> otaku-san: made an error. I meant Ubuntu
[05:11] <otaku-san> I'm on Kubuntu
[05:11] <otaku-san> Hahahaha
[05:11] <jo3y> so how is kubuntu different than ubuntu
[05:11] <otaku-san> ok
[05:11] <jo3y> kde?
[05:11] <Jucato> jo3y: yes
[05:11] <Dr_willis> one is kde one is gnome.
[05:11] <otaku-san> lots actually...kinda suprising
[05:11] <jo3y> thank you
[05:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:11] <jo3y> and those are... gui's?
[05:12] <otaku-san> no DI
[05:12] <DaSkreech> jo3y: It's in Universe you have to enable it
[05:12] <Dr_willis> "Desktop enviroments"
[05:12] <otaku-san> E
[05:12] <Jucato> desktop environments, to be exact. but yeah you could call them GUI's
[05:12] <otaku-san> DE
[05:12] <DaSkreech> !universe > jo3y
[05:12] <jo3y> no that makes more sense
[05:12] <Dr_willis> nah - gui is too generic a term. :P
[05:12] <Oellinas> hello
[05:12] <jo3y> :D
[05:12] <otaku-san> hello
[05:12] <jo3y> welllllllll
[05:13] <Oellinas> is there someone with asus desktop or anyway with intel i915 chipset?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> jo3y: Got Ubotu's PM?
[05:13] <Oellinas> *laptop
[05:13] <otaku-san> ......asus is a mobo company....
[05:13] <jo3y> im a web developer from northeast oregon, and I asked around and heard that ubuntu was a good os to start on nix, especially given that I want to run a webserver etc on it
[05:13] <jo3y> i was already familiar with debian as well
[05:13] <Oellinas> i have a laptop from asus anyway
[05:13] <otaku-san> actually have a friend who runs a nice server off of Fedora
[05:14] <jo3y> DaSkreech: yup
[05:14] <Oellinas> i have problem with audio card
[05:14] <DaSkreech> jo3y: ok use it to add Universe to your repos Might as well as add Multiverse
[05:14] <otaku-san> Oellinas: sorry I can't help...I have neither
[05:15] <jo3y> welllllllll
[05:15] <jo3y> I'm going to look for a kubuntu iso
[05:15] <DaSkreech> try http://www.kubuntu.org
[05:15] <Jucato> jo3y: main, restricted, universe, multiverse are sort of the counterparts of Debian's free and non-free sections
[05:15] <otaku-san> it's a big list...make sure you know your architech
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Yea - they really need to clarify the names a bit.. but tooo late for that.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:16] <Jucato> heh
[05:16] <jo3y> haha, clicked links open in SCREEM
[05:16] <jo3y> this is nothing like mirc/win
[05:16] <jo3y> :D
[05:16] <jo3y> is kde better than gnome
[05:16] <otaku-san> hehehehe
[05:17] <DaSkreech> ONly if you like Kool stuff :)
[05:17] <otaku-san> thats an old arguement
[05:17] <jo3y> i mean, what makes it better
[05:17] <jo3y> im not arguiing :D
[05:17] <DaSkreech> jo3y: Preference
[05:17] <otaku-san> HAhahaha
[05:17] <jo3y> I just wanna be the coolest without all the effort
[05:17] <otaku-san> hmmmmm....KDE
[05:17] <Jucato> heh... "coolest
[05:17] <DaSkreech> You can argue about it endlessly but in the end it's what you like
[05:17] <jo3y> Suse is KDE, yes?
[05:17] <Jucato> heh... "coolest" and "better" are very subjective
[05:17] <DaSkreech> With least effort may = Gnome :)
[05:17] <jo3y> yeah its gotta be
[05:17] <DaSkreech> They make a lot of default decsiosns so you don't have to
[05:18] <jo3y> i really liked suse
[05:18] <jo3y> and this ubuntu seems pretty limited with regard to visuals
[05:18] <DaSkreech> LIke the ((^3956*%@)) screensaver >_<
[05:18] <vilefridge> otaku-san, kbee: earlier, I asked a question regarding having Windows previously installed on hda and Kubuntu installed on hdb.    It was stated that GRUB would default to hdb.    If hdb was removed, would hda have the ability to still boot Windows?  Or does Windows now rely on the bootloader on hdb?
[05:18] <Jucato> SUSE uses KDe by default, afaik
[05:18] <otaku-san> vilefridge: ya
[05:18] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: E
[05:18] <DaSkreech> I win :)
[05:18] <jo3y> i think so to Jucato
[05:19] <jo3y> now, if for some reason I wanted to use kde with ubuntu, would i be able?
[05:19] <jo3y> I think I have a ton of reading to do
[05:19] <DaSkreech> jo3y: how did you install Ubuntu?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> jo3y,  of course
[05:19] <vilefridge> otaku-san: hrmm..  Windows should still boot if the Kubuntu drive is gone?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> trivial easy
[05:19] <otaku-san> yes
[05:19] <mkquist> vilefridge - i believe that would cause a grub error
[05:19] <DaSkreech> The Desktop CD or the alternate Cd?
[05:19] <jo3y> I mounted an iso on one of my xp machines, burned a live/install cd, and popped it in another computer
[05:20] <jo3y> desktop?
[05:20] <jo3y> yeah im pretty sure
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Was it a live Cd or did it just install?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Mounted?
[05:20] <otaku-san> vilefridge: because BIOs whould automatically take over and boot up Windows
[05:20] <jo3y> it started as a live cd
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Ah ok :(
[05:20] <otaku-san> would*
[05:20] <jo3y> which actually messed up constantly on an ibm i tried to install to
[05:20] <Dr_willis> so all this is to say.. You got Ubuntu Installed from the Live CD.
[05:20] <jo3y> YES!
[05:20] <jo3y> thats it :)
[05:21] <jo3y> how long does the Shipit thing take
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Shipit can take Months...
[05:21] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: your tactics are pitiful...only shows us over with KDE are better ;p
[05:21] <Jucato> a month at least
[05:21] <vilefridge> otaku-san: thanks!
[05:22] <otaku-san> jo3y: took it about 2 months to get to me
[05:22] <otaku-san> vilefridge: no problem, man.
[05:22] <jo3y> Can I offer them at my computer shop?
[05:22] <otaku-san> yes
[05:22] <Dr_willis> I still aint got my warty cds! :P
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Hahahaahaha
[05:22] <otaku-san> hehehe
[05:22] <Dr_willis> jo3y,  they are gpl'ed copy and give them away to everyone on the block.
[05:22] <DaSkreech> jo3y: I assume you downloaded the Live CD Ubuntu ISO?
[05:22] <Jucato> DaSkreech: why not ask Hawkwind :P
[05:22] <otaku-san> jo3y: it is highly suggested...and pushed that you do
[05:23] <jo3y> you assume correctly mr DaSkreech
[05:23] <otaku-san> where is that dude?
[05:23] <otaku-san> Hawkwind
[05:23] <Dr_willis> so whts the problem? :P lol
[05:23] <DaSkreech> well download the Kubuntu ISO and try it :)
[05:23] <Hawkwind> ?
[05:23] <jo3y> im on my way
[05:23] <DaSkreech>  I normally keep an alternate CD around
[05:23] <otaku-san> HAhaha he appeared!!!
[05:23] <Jucato> he's been here all along :P
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: We were having a KDE/GNOME match
[05:23] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: I've been here watching the whole time.  Even saw you post a link to the sources.list on my LFD forums :P
[05:23] <Dr_willis> or install ubuntu, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <DaSkreech>  I brought E and the word pitiful came up :)
[05:23] <otaku-san> KDE rules
[05:24] <Jucato> heh
[05:24] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: They just don't know better since they are whipped by KDE
[05:24] <otaku-san> Hahahaha
[05:24] <Jucato> in my book E doesn't qualify as a full DE yet... but it's almost there :P
[05:24] <jo3y> soooooooooooooooo
[05:24] <Hawkwind> http://SeerOfSouls.com/screenshots/Hawkwind17.png  <~~Today's screenshot
[05:24] <otaku-san> I said DE first
[05:24] <jo3y> i should use the alternate install cd if I want to install on another machine with about 128 of ram?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> jo3y: I keep an alternate CD around so that I can install any of the *untu's
[05:25] <DaSkreech> jo3y: Yeah it's good for that as well
[05:25] <Jucato> jo3y: yes, but running Kubuntu or Ubuntu on that much ram might not be a good idea
[05:25] <soulrider> otaku-san: im on my pc now, and i cant seem to eb balke to cpmile the program
[05:25] <jo3y> elite
[05:25] <soulrider> although ive done it before
[05:25] <jo3y> I really do want to offer k/ubuntu to people with shitty computers
[05:25] <otaku-san> so your trying to compile again?
[05:25] <Jucato> hm... try typing that again soulrider, without the typos?
[05:25] <Hawkwind> !language
[05:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <jo3y> to revive < 500mhz's
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Might want to try Xubuntu  :)
[05:25] <otaku-san> and it's not working
[05:25] <jo3y> oops
[05:25] <jo3y> another one?!?!
[05:26] <Jucato> jo3y: you might want to try lighter alternatives like Xubuntu (or even Fluxbuntu)
[05:26] <jo3y> lemme guess
[05:26] <jo3y> x windows?
[05:26] <Jucato> Xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce
[05:26] <otaku-san> no
[05:26] <otaku-san> xcfe
[05:26] <jo3y> oh
[05:26] <otaku-san> xfce
[05:26] <otaku-san> .......
[05:26] <soulrider> damn
[05:26] <otaku-san> I'm so sad
[05:26] <soulrider> i didnt see y made so many typ0s
[05:26] <jo3y> is it faster or anything?
[05:26] <soulrider> ok, heres hte thing
[05:26] <Jucato> Fluxbuntu uses Fluxbox. but Xubuntu is a bit more official
[05:26] <DaSkreech> yeah it is
[05:26] <Dr_willis> x windows ? gesh.. :P
[05:26] <soulrider> im trying to compile something on my dads computer right
[05:26] <soulrider> but it wont compile
[05:26] <otaku-san> ya
[05:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:27] <soulrider> so i came to mine and try to compile it here
[05:27] <unix_infidel> what are you rying to compile.
[05:27] <DaSkreech> GLBunutu >_<
[05:27] <soulrider> because i already did it before
[05:27] <jo3y> my phlak livecd has a ton of DE's
[05:27] <soulrider> but i happen to get the same error
[05:27] <soulrider> rppppoek
[05:27] <Dr_willis> windowmakerbutunu
[05:27] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: help.... you saw his error....it's so familiar...I just can't place it
[05:27] <Jucato> soulrider: have you isntalled everything that's needed to compile on your dad's computer?
[05:27] <otaku-san> he says yes
[05:27] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Did you install build-essential ?
[05:27] <otaku-san> or did
[05:27] <soulrider> of course
[05:27] <soulrider> in fact
[05:28] <soulrider> i already compiled that thing on this PC
[05:28] <Dr_willis> install it weice!
[05:28] <soulrider> but i cant compile it now
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Twice. :P
[05:28] <jo3y> thanks for all your help guys
[05:28] <soulrider> http://segfaultskde.berlios.de/index.php?content=rppppoek
[05:28] <unix_infidel> sure you did a build-dep?
[05:28] <soulrider> thast the program
[05:28] <otaku-san> weice is nice
[05:28] <jo3y> I'm coming back when I have more probs :D
[05:28] <soulrider> heres the error i get
[05:28] <soulrider> i have never gotten it before
[05:28] <otaku-san> jo3y: hehehe good luck
[05:29] <DaSkreech> jo3y: Hope never to see you agian then :-)
[05:29] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: your running off of Enlite right?
[05:29] <soulrider> checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix
[05:29] <soulrider> thats what i get
[05:29] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: was thinking of changing...but can you change it from that gold colored kicker?
[05:30] <otaku-san> so silly really
[05:30] <Jucato> soulrider: I think you need kde-devel for that?
[05:30] <soulrider> im installing it now and see if it fixes the problem actually
[05:30] <soulrider> lets hope it does
[05:30] <soulrider> i managed to convince my dad to use kubuntu
[05:30] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: I'm running E17, yes.  The gold color can be gold, silver, or invisible.  Or I have some themes that I've made about 12 color choices
[05:30] <soulrider> so i MUST get him this program
[05:31] <otaku-san> soulrider: I'll cross my finger for ya
[05:31] <Jucato> I'll cross whatever fingers I have available :P
[05:31] <soulrider> thanks ^^
[05:31] <soulrider> its not funny to type with crossed fingers
[05:32] <soulrider> youll end up making as many typ0s as me ::P
[05:32] <DaSkreech> KDE4 shoudl be buildable on Edgy Right?
[05:32] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: the second thing...is I'm a bit scared of changing over to another DE.....I mean after installing Kubuntu you would think something like a DE would be simple
[05:32] <soulrider> i ahte going into windows and not having Katapult
[05:32] <soulrider> its so annoying
[05:32] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: E17 is *not* a DE though.  It's wm so it's far from a DE like KDE or Gnome
[05:33] <Jucato> soulrider: heh there's something just a bit better than Katapult in Windows...
[05:33] <Jucato> yay! glad Hawkwind agrees with me on that one :P
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Jucato: fdisk?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> There are TWO De's
[05:33] <soulrider> Jucato: what  thing
[05:33] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: ahhh it sits more on top and still lets programs from other DEs work?
[05:33] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: There are 3 actually
[05:33] <otaku-san> instead of taking over kinda?
[05:33] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: KDE, Gnome and Xfce is actually a DE
[05:33] <Jucato> soulrider, DaSkreech: Launchy
[05:33] <DaSkreech> When did it get promoted?
[05:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hm... since the beginning of this year?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> As far as I know XFCE was a heavy WM
[05:34] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: You can run any app in any de/wm you want.  They are de/wm dependant at all.  I run KDE apps all the time here
[05:34] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Years ago
[05:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nah
[05:34] <Hawkwind> Soetime last year when 4.0 was released actually
[05:34] <DaSkreech> What programs are dependent on XFCE?
[05:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: for one, Xfce doesn't rely on GNOME or KDE stuff
[05:34] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: How about like Xfce?  Would that be de/wm dependent?
[05:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: mousepad, thunar, etc
[05:34] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Nothing is.  You can run any app in any wm/de.  There is no single app that is de/wm dependant
[05:35] <otaku-san> oh question answered kinda
[05:35] <unix_infidel> i dont think i understand, launchy just creates a databse of all files on your computer and then launches them with a sort of tab completion.
[05:35] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: As stated, Xfce is a DE as of last year sometime
[05:35] <unix_infidel> how is that much better than cygwin with a bash interface?
[05:35] <otaku-san> question really answered
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Yeah but you can't run kate without KDE libs
[05:35] <unix_infidel> or better yet, why not just use a shell :P
[05:35] <Jucato> unix_infidel: Launchy in XP?
[05:35] <DaSkreech>  or Firefox without FGnome libs
[05:35] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: thank you...sorry for making you repeat
[05:35] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Right, but you don't need *all* of KDE installed
[05:35] <Jucato> mousepad need Xfce libs afaik
[05:35] <DaSkreech> libs count :-P
[05:35] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Stop whining :P
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Ok then I'll call it a DE :-)
[05:35] <unix_infidel> Jucato: launchy, katapult, quicksilver....
[05:36] <jo3y> knoppix owns all
[05:36] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Sure they do.  People think if it's a K app, that it only runs in KDE
[05:36] <soulrider> Jucato: installing kde-devel worked great!!! =d
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Yes but >we< know that's not true as evidenced by jo3y
[05:36] <otaku-san> Hehehe ok guys I gotta get lost
[05:36] <otaku-san> got to get to bed
[05:36] <unix_infidel> OS X has been doing this for years and hasnt had a lot of great results with users actually USING that feature compared to power uses using "Terminal"
[05:36] <jo3y> what
[05:36] <Jucato> unix_infidel: some people like those stuff. if you don't, doesn't mean we shouldn't right?
[05:37] <otaku-san> soulrider: awesome man!!!
[05:37] <soulrider> yea! =D
[05:37] <otaku-san> ok see ya guys
[05:37] <unix_infidel> no argument there :)
[05:37] <soulrider> now we know, if someone gets that error
[05:37] <soulrider> install kde-devel :P
[05:37] <soulrider> see ya!
[05:37] <Jucato> soulrider: :)
[05:37] <Jucato> glad it worked
[05:37] <DaSkreech> jo3y: Sorry we were saying that you can have a KDe app in Gnome and I used your konversation snafu as an example
[05:37] <soulrider> yea, me too :P
[05:37] <jo3y> lol
[05:38] <jo3y> i might have installed it after i installed the os
[05:38] <soulrider> my kde panels look kond og GNOMEish :P
[05:38] <jo3y> thank you for the clarification
[05:38] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Exellent!!
[05:38] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Now get your Gnome panel to look KDeish :-D
[05:38] <bleaked> DaSkreech: you know that's not possible..
[05:38] <soulrider> i dont use GNOME :P
[05:39] <Jucato> it's easier to make GNOME panels look like KDE than the other way around
[05:39] <soulrider> :O
[05:39] <kanak> later guys
[05:39] <soulrider> later
[05:39] <DaSkreech> kanak: ok
[05:39] <soulrider> i like how my KDE looks now
[05:40] <kanak> Good Night to everyone
[05:40] <soulrider> want me to post a screenie? :P
[05:40] <Jucato> you can't easily emulate/imitate  GNOME's menus (Applications, Places, System) in KDE
[05:40] <soulrider> ah no, not that
[05:40] <soulrider> just 2 panels, tray and k menu in one
[05:40] <Jucato> but it's easier for GNOME to imitate KDE's K Menu
[05:40] <soulrider> and open apps int he other :P
[05:41] <tk> hey soulrider :)
[05:41] <soulrider> hey tk!!!
[05:41] <soulrider> im sorry i didnt finish uploading those wallpapers :P
[05:41] <phoenix_> how do u install ncurses on ubuntu?
[05:41] <soulrider> im downlaoding some stuff at the moment
[05:41] <soulrider> quite a lot of GB
[05:41] <tk> hehe
[05:41] <soulrider> and if i upload it kills my downlaod
[05:41] <tk> s'ok, was about to ask if you did :)
[05:41] <soulrider> i need to downlaod like 80 more GB still
[05:42] <beefsprocket> phoenix_: sudo apt-get install ncurses should work?
[05:42] <soulrider> i think i only uploaded like 50%of all my wallpapers :P
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Is it FreeDesktop compliant?
[05:42] <tk> anyone know why turning on dual monitor with laptop LCD+TV (svid) would make my computer slower than windows does doing the same thing? (using Nvidia proprietary drivers)
[05:43] <DaSkreech> phoenix_: sudo apt-get install ncurses
[05:43] <tk> soulrider:  hehe, Im' about to go through them and find a new wallpaper for kubuntu :)
[05:43] <soulrider> theyre great
[05:43] <beefsprocket> phoenix_: ncurses, dies, try apt-get install ncurses-base
[05:43] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it is, afaik
[05:43] <soulrider> you'll never get tired
[05:43] <soulrider> there are some kinda crappy ones though
[05:43] <tk> yah I know :)
[05:43] <soulrider> when i reach 4.5 gb ill burn them to a DVD
[05:43] <soulrider> ill mail you one if you want :P
[05:44] <tk> lol
[05:44] <Jucato> DaSkreech: Xfce has the only menu editor where you are not limited to the basic K Menu or Applications/Places/System menu
[05:44] <tk> when I get home, I could upload em easier i think :)
[05:44] <kanak> how can i free up my mem?
[05:44] <soulrider> probably
[05:44] <soulrider> i got 128 kbit upload
[05:44] <soulrider> its not funny
[05:44] <kanak> 109 processes
[05:45] <kanak> 1,002,552 kb used mem
[05:45] <tk> ahh, Comcast in colorado gives 768 I think :)
[05:45] <kanak> 25,416 kb free
[05:45] <kanak> is that a lot?
[05:45] <notech> kanak: no reason too free memory. linux caches and buffers memory for better efficiency
[05:45] <kanak> i have 1 gig ram
[05:45] <kanak> is it using all my ram right now?
[05:45] <kanak> ok
[05:46] <tk> karnak: whats the -/+ cache line of "free" report?
[05:46] <notech> and most of that 1GB shouldn't show as free, hopefully
[05:46] <TehKewl1> who here loved tuxracer?
[05:46] <kanak> where will it say te +/-
[05:46] <tk> thats what I was told was the important line really I was told :)
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Me!
[05:46] <TehKewl1> I need to get a hold of some source code
[05:46] <tk> kanak: type "free" in konsole
[05:46] <DaSkreech> TehKewl1: Which one?
[05:46] <TehKewl1> and I'm thinkin about bringin it back
[05:47] <TehKewl1> the one where you slide down the ice
[05:47] <kanak> 412328
[05:47] <kanak> used
[05:47] <DaSkreech> The one with the penguin sliding down the ice on it's belly?
[05:47] <kanak> 615640 free
[05:47] <TehKewl1> yeah that one
[05:47] <kanak> is that good?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> TehKewl1: Look up PPR
[05:47] <DaSkreech> It's in the repos
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Planet Penguin Racer
[05:47] <notech> kanak: should show cached/buffered as well
[05:47] <TehKewl1> is it exactly the same?
[05:47] <tk> kanak: so 615 megs free... roughly
[05:47] <DaSkreech> TehKewl1: It's the current version. Find that site and supply help there
[05:48] <kanak> 21692 = buffers
[05:48] <DaSkreech> It's a fork
[05:48] <kanak> cached= 573840
[05:48] <kanak> on windows i was using like 250mb
[05:48] <kanak> wow
[05:48] <kanak> linux uses more mem
[05:48] <kanak> 250-300
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:49] <kanak> but its better for hosting games
[05:49] <DaSkreech> kanak: What's the point of having more memory if you don't use it?
[05:49] <kanak> and servers right?
[05:49] <tk> kanak: like notech said, its not all used, its "prepped" for better performance
[05:49] <poseidon> How do you insert the upside question mark or exclamation mark with the spanish keyboard set_
[05:50] <tk> kanak: -/+ buffers/cache:     354880     940800
[05:50] <notech> kanak: i think of it as better to have cached/buffered than wasting cpu cycles trying to keep it 'free' as windows does. linux will release and use that as needed
[05:50] <soulrider> poseidon
[05:50] <soulrider> you do it with -nad =
[05:50] <soulrider> and+
[05:50] <tk> thats what mine reports... and I'm fine f or memory (1280 ram)
[05:50] <soulrider> and*
[05:50] <kanak> ohh ok
[05:50] <soulrider> that means, use - and =
[05:50] <notech> free memory is wasted memory
[05:50] <soulrider> plus shift
[05:50] <soulrider> no, sorry
[05:51] <soulrider> use shift and =
[05:51] <soulrider> or simply =
[05:51] <soulrider> im using my english keyboard right now
[05:51] <soulrider> but i my main language is spanish :P
[05:51] <tk> so no ideas on why Kde would like come to a crawl when enabling 2 desktops 1 using SVID?
[05:51] <poseidon> MUY BIEN!?
[05:52] <soulrider> si!!
[05:52] <abattoir> !es
[05:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:52] <soulrider> 
[05:52] <Kr4t05> Je parle francias, mais je prefere anglais.
[05:52] <poseidon> ch
[05:52] <hermes__> I need some assistance recovering grub?  Re-installed Windows and it killed GRUB/MBR.  How can I recover it?
[05:52] <Kr4t05> !grub
[05:52] <soulrider> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:53] <Kr4t05> soulrider: I beat you.
[05:53] <soulrider> i beat you in my screen lol
[05:53] <Kr4t05> Meh...
[05:53] <soulrider> who won?
[05:53] <hermes__> Danke
[05:53] <notech> Kr4t05 won
[05:53] <Kr4t05> I'm doing an SVN checkout, so you probably won.
[05:53] <Kr4t05> oh!
[05:53] <soulrider> damn
[05:53] <Kr4t05> w00t!
[05:53] <soulrider> youre lucky i live halfway aroudn the world..... :P
[05:54] <soulrider> i got like 350 ms lag
[05:54] <poseidon> !beatle
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beatle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <Kr4t05> 803mx
[05:54] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: So you are now running the 2.6.18 kernel ?
[05:54] <Kr4t05> ms*
[05:54] <soulrider> o.O
[05:54] <tk> soulrider: feel free to share that URL so others can download those papers too :)
[05:54] <soulrider> where do you live ?
[05:54] <soulrider> ok, i will!
[05:54] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: No, I compiled the 2.6.17 source... Couldn't get the 2.6.18 to work. ><
[05:54] <tk> eventually I'll put up a gallery type thing to browse em
[05:54] <soulrider> cool
[05:55] <soulrider> as soon as im done downbloading all this madness
[05:55] <Kr4t05> I kept freaking out about the version.
[05:55] <soulrider> ill go on uplaoding the papers
[05:55] <Kr4t05> I'm hoping they fix that.
[05:55] <Kr4t05> s/I/It
[05:55] <soulrider> brb
[05:55] <soulrider> gotta go chek if the other computer is done upgrading
[05:56] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Strange.  I had no issues getting 2.6.18 to compile and work
[05:56] <Hawkwind> Linux Britannia 2.6.18-01 #1 SMP Wed Sep 20 08:00:45 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:56] <Hawkwind> :)
[05:56] <Kr4t05> Well, I'll try again...
[05:56] <Kr4t05> SMP? You lucky bum.
[05:56] <Kr4t05> I want to get a P4 with HT before too long.
[05:56] <tk> soulrider: this one is pretty coool... http://kubuntu.xnet.org/wallpapers/throb.jpg
[05:56] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: P4 3.2GHz HT :)
[05:57] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Damn you.
[05:57] <Hawkwind> tk: I have hundreds and hundreds of wallpapers on my http://SeerOfSouls.com/gallery if you want to browse around there
[05:57] <Kr4t05> Someday, I'll get a P4 and a 7600
[05:57] <Kr4t05> Then, we can talk. :P
[05:57] <Hawkwind> I'm hoping to put all 40,000+ of my icons on there soon too
[05:58] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: In November Intel is releasing the Quad Core processor.  That's my next upgrade :P
[05:58] <Kr4t05> :o
[05:58] <Kr4t05> I wish.
[05:58] <Kr4t05> Core 2 Quadro?
[05:59] <tk> Hawkwind: i dont suppose those are in an easy go get package are they? soulrider and me were just putting a bunch on kubuntu.xnet.org/wallpapers for people to share :)
[06:00] <tk> are those ones you made Hawkwind
[06:00] <tk> ?
[06:00] <Hawkwind> tk: I can tar them up for you tomorrow if you want
[06:00] <Hawkwind> tk: No.  I have no artistic talent.  A lot of them came from deviantart and other places for members only actually
[06:00] <soulrider> oh yea, looks cool :)
[06:01] <tk> Hawkwind: this looks awesome for a desktop http://seerofsouls.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=15&pos=3
[06:01] <Kr4t05> You need more dual screen stuff.
[06:01] <soulrider> tk are you the owner of xnet.org ?
[06:01] <Hawkwind> tk: Would be kewl to have all of yours/soulrifers in a gallery like that
[06:01] <TehKewl1> I'm trying to build supertuxkart into a deb package as a test :>
[06:01] <tk> Hawkwind: planning on setting something up :)
[06:01] <tk> soulrider: yes :)
[06:01] <soulrider> cool
[06:01] <ubuntu> i stand corrected  run levels 2-5 are the same in debian did not know that
[06:01] <soulrider> that hosting service is awesomely cheap!!
[06:02] <leio_> why after i 'v typed  "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk",it says can't find this package?
[06:02] <soulrider> in a few years, when i geta  job i think im gonna get some webspace
[06:02] <soulrider> :P
[06:02] <Hawkwind> tk: I'm going to a football game tomorrow(Texans/Dolphins) so when I get back I'll tar everything up that I have and get them to you
[06:02] <Hawkwind> tk: Mind if I grab yours and put them on SoS ?
[06:02] <tk> hawk: ok :)
[06:02] <tk> sure hawkwind
[06:02] <ubuntu> so to stop X server u run  update-rc.d [xgk] dm remove
[06:03] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: I <3 digitalblasphemy.com
[06:03] <soulrider> Hawkwind: ill be uploading a crapload mor epapers soon
[06:03] <ubuntu> interesting
[06:03] <soulrider> im not too fond of digitalblasphemy
[06:03] <soulrider> at least i didnt like what i saw
[06:03] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Heh yeah me too.  And I also like visualparadox.com
[06:03] <tk> Hawkwind: where you located?
[06:03] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Maybe I could give you and tk upload access to my gallery as well :)
[06:04] <soulrider> maybe
[06:04] <Hawkwind> tk: Houston, Texas.  Originally from Miami, Florida
[06:04] <tk> Hawkwind: born in Houston :) hows the weather down there?
[06:04] <Hawkwind> 80F with 70% humidity.  Hot as usual :)
[06:04] <soulrider> thats nice Hawkwind
[06:04] <tk> hehe, better than 100% humidity but the weathers been kinda cool here (Korea)
[06:04] <soulrider> its getting warmer here luckily
[06:05] <soulrider> tk, your ein korea? O.O
[06:05] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Nice if you live in Antarctica maybe :P
[06:05] <tk> yah, Pyeontaek, South Korea :)
[06:05] <Hawkwind> It got up to 96F here today :(
[06:06] <soulrider> i like a lil heat
[06:06] <soulrider> how fast is youre internet tk?
[06:06] <soulrider> dunno about korea
[06:06] <soulrider> but japan has awesome lines :P
[06:06] <tk> soulrider: here... its not too fast... I might get 250Kb sometimes on the downside... upside BLOWS
[06:07] <DaSkreech> TehKewl1: Found the PPR page?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> TehKewl1: They took down the Source code for tuxkart :-(
[06:07] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Remind me tomorrow and if you're interested I'll set you up an upload account on the SoS gallery.  You as well tk
[06:07] <soulrider> i will Hawkwind
[06:08] <TehKewl1> I'll find some
[06:08] <tk> Hawkwind: ok :)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Is seerofsouls on sourceomatic?
[06:08] <tk> soulrider: off post, the Inet they provide civilians is faster I hear....
[06:08] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Nope.  I think it was gnomefreak who was going to see about getting it there and/or on easyubuntu
[06:09] <DaSkreech> ok well we can just wait for gnomefreak to respond then
[06:11] <soulrider> tk, youre working for the military ?
[06:11] <tk> soulrider: im in the USAF (for now anyways)
[06:12] <Blacken> Is there any way to, however politely, tell the fine gremlins working inside Kate to STOP putting what I assume are revert/backup files (*~) in directories when I edit the files?
[06:12] <soulrider> oooh
[06:13] <soulrider> lol Blackeni think the same
[06:13] <soulrider> its so annoying sometimes
[06:13] <Blacken> It must be a vim thing or something.
[06:13] <tk> Hawkwind: any reason you use coppermine over other galleries? (just curious for when I set one up :P)
[06:14] <Hawkwind> tk: Where SoS is hosted they only offer Coppermine, so I stuck with it.  I'm thinking of switching to Gallery2 though soon as it has so many more features
[06:14] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Let me take a screen of my desktop real quick. :)
[06:14] <tk> Hawkwind: yah G2 is what I was thinking, was just curious :)
[06:14] <Blacken> Whoa, wait. Did I just say...
[06:15] <tk> heh
[06:15] <tk> soulrider: what you need webspace for?
[06:16] <soulrider> nothing actually, not right now
[06:16] <soulrider> but id like to set up a small site with programs i make and stuff
[06:16] <soulrider> also, im kind of into graphic design
[06:17] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shotol6.png
[06:17] <soulrider> so making a site and modifying it 2000000 times a month could be fun :P
[06:17] <soulrider> nice desktop!
[06:17] <soulrider> i ABOSLUTELY LOVE the wallpaper
[06:18] <TehKewl1> I got the tuxracer source
[06:18] <Kr4t05> It's two separate pics I found on deviantart
[06:18] <soulrider> :O
[06:18] <TehKewl1> I loved the original... and I gotta learn how to make debian packages
[06:18] <soulrider> i think i could do something like that in photoshop
[06:18] <tk> hehe, pretty cool although the neon blue is kinda much :P
[06:18] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: That is very kewl looking indeed
[06:19] <Kr4t05> Thanks.
[06:19] <soulrider> whats that dock thing youre using on top ?
[06:19] <Hawkwind> TehKewl1: ppracer is what used to be tuxracer.  Not like they stopped developing it
[06:19] <soulrider> ill post a pic of my desktop
[06:19] <TehKewl1> is there an incredibly easy way to make .deb packages?
[06:19] <Kr4t05> soulrider: It's a panel minus the taskbar. I created the external taskbar on the bottom.
[06:19] <Kr4t05> TehKewl1: Configure.
[06:20] <tk> soulrider: http://kubuntu.xnet.org/wallpapers/the_Ghost_of_the_Shape.jpg
[06:20] <TehKewl1> I meant make them from source code
[06:20] <Hawkwind> TehKewl1: You realize it's already in the repos
[06:20] <Kr4t05> TehKewl1: You'll need to configure the source, first.
[06:20] <Hawkwind> TehKewl1: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[06:20] <soulrider> tk, loos really cool
[06:20] <Hawkwind> TehKewl1: Read that.  Takes less than 10 minutes to build a deb package
[06:21] <TehKewl1> ok
[06:21] <Hawkwind> tk: Where did you get all these wallpapers ?
[06:21] <Kr4t05> TehKewl1: Or, you could man dpkg.
[06:21] <tk> Hawkwind:  from soulrider :P
[06:21] <Hawkwind> Oh!
[06:21] <soulrider> i sent you that?
[06:21] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Where did you get all these wallpapers from ?
[06:22] <tk> soulrider: yah
[06:22] <soulrider> long time ago
[06:22] <soulrider> from palces all over hte net
[06:22] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Ah, gotcha
[06:22] <tk> err.... my desktop is..... not showing anything :(
[06:22] <soulrider> o.O
[06:22] <Hawkwind> I really need to get all 40,000+ of my icons online.  I know there are people out there that love icons as much as I do
[06:23] <soulrider> yea, me too
[06:23] <soulrider> i love getting icons
[06:24] <tk> anyone know how to get my desktop Icons back?
[06:24] <soulrider> uhm
[06:24] <soulrider> dunno
[06:24] <soulrider> i never have any icons on my desktop lol
[06:24] <soulrider> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8329/des2jb1.png
[06:24] <tk> my default save location is desktop...
[06:25] <soulrider> thats my desktop, i need to change the superkaramba widget though
[06:26] <DaSkreech> TehKewl1: Tuxracer or TuxRacerkart?
[06:26] <TehKewl1> TuxRacer... but I think I'll try Supertuxkart
[06:27] <DaSkreech> THanks :)
[06:27] <DaSkreech> It's really kool now after GOTM
[06:27] <soulrider> BRB, i need to check on my dads computer
[06:29] <poseidon> soulrider: I was about to ask you how you get , but I answered my own question. :b
[06:30] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: You said you can't download the source for supertuxkart ?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: No you can't download the installer
[06:30] <DaSkreech> "I downloaded it at work on the edgy machine and went "home" and the site had changed
[06:30] <DaSkreech> I couldn't get the installer anymore :(
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Which sucks cause it worked fine for me
[06:31] <Hawkwind> So you have at work on the Edgy machine still ?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Yeah I can tar it and mail it to meself
[06:32] <Hawkwind> I wonder why they took it down
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Yeah me too
[06:32] <nimnrod> i downloaded gtkorphan but im not sure if its really safe to remove the orphan packages that the application has found....
[06:32] <tk> hmmmm I Cant enabled dual screen now :(
[06:33] <nimnrod> if i remove those orphan packages shouldnt affect my system, right? 'casue they're not doing anything
[06:34] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Hmm, new people just took it over and made a new release just 2 - 3 days ago
[06:35] <DaSkreech> As I said it rocks now
[06:35] <DaSkreech> It almost feels clean
[06:36] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I'll try and build a deb of it tomorrow
[06:37] <DaSkreech> We should have a Head GH who just lives on HP :)
[06:38] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:38] <tk> hmmm wonder why i cant enabled my SVID now :(
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: There are seriously a lot of good games on HappyPenguin that would love exposure
[06:39] <DaSkreech> If the repos could have games that were noted by genre you'd find a lot more people complaining less about Linux has no games NONE!
[06:39] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I'm not much a gamer anymore, but I'll have to take a look around there and see what all is there
[06:40] <tk> GRR, why cant re-enable my 2nd output :(
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Well I wouldn't expect you to do it by yourself (though the Tuxkart thing would be sweet)
[06:41] <DaSkreech> I spoke with someone today and he said that he really doesn't see the point in even trying Linux if he can't get games onit
[06:42] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: some of use grow up and then realise games are for children thats why
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: And some of us have children :)
[06:43] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: thats what consoles are for, last thing you want is a 8 year old filling your system full of rubbish
[06:43] <DaSkreech> If he has his own login who cares
[06:43] <excitatory> DaSkreech: heh, you should tell him that you don't see the point in running windows, since using it is such a game.
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Yeah I did :)
[06:44] <tk> introduce him to what Quake2 that was ported? :P thast a game....
[06:44] <Linux_Galore> Quake 4 runs fine on Linux, also seen WoW running on Linux thanks to a wine hack
[06:44] <tk> ugh brb, issues with KDESU apparently
[06:45] <excitatory> plus, there are actually tons of games for *nix now..  some very good ones too.. also cedega works quite well.
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Yeah you can get lots of stuff running on Linux
[06:45] <DaSkreech>  but it's things like SimCity or Ceaser 4 that are the killers
[06:45] <DaSkreech> excitatory: The teams behind the games section for Linux is pretty weak
[06:46] <excitatory> true
[06:46] <Linux_Galore> to be honest with 72 new anime releases this year even if I did had inclination to play games I cant because I dont have enough time
[06:46] <DaSkreech> partly because games unlike other apps are painful to use without good art
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: 72 good animes?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> I doubt it :)
[06:47] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: actually about 20 I found are good
[06:47] <DaSkreech> That sounds more like it
[06:47] <excitatory> honestly, the most compatible solution would be to have a simple windows xp install, possibly w2k3 if you can, that's extremely slimmed down, secured, extra services turned off, a strong gpo, etc, etc, then just dual boot into windows when you just have to play that game.
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: Oh you might know. Is there a good tool to make mkvs on Linux?
[06:48] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: even that thats allot, dont forget all the old stuff is still running add that to the new ones and Im hard up keeping up with it all
[06:48] <DaSkreech> excitatory: Read Bug1 :) that's not a solution ;-)
[06:48] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: I dont like mkv, when you get action scenes the edges blur
[06:49] <DaSkreech> The Stuff I'm making isn't very action heavy
[06:49] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: I sticking to xvid
[06:49] <DaSkreech> I think that mkv's are better for recreating a DVD as a file over ogm
[06:50] <Linux_Galore> someone did a really good comparison last year of all the video file formats, xvid won best all rounder mkv is good for small file size but thats about it, it fails on all the other levels
[06:50] <excitatory> DaSkreech: well, it's a 'most-compatible' solution to the problem of wanting to play any and all games, but still want to use linux as a primary os.  idk.. whatever.. if a games doesn't play on my os, then i just don't play it.  i've yet to see a killer game that would force me to install windows for.  far too often are games just too banal and boring for me to play.
[06:51] <DaSkreech> mkv isn't a codec so how do yo ucopare it to xvid? I can make a xvid and a mkv in one file
[06:51] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: I never said codec
[06:52] <Linux_Galore> I said file formats
[06:52] <DaSkreech> excitatory: Yup One of the problems I think is that open source games try to BE propietary games but just open sourced but w-e
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: Still don't get how they compared them
[06:52] <OSUKid7> hey, I'm trying to install KDE on an existing Ubuntu installation. I did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it keeps saying
[06:52] <OSUKid7> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeaddons/konq-plugins_3.5.2-0ubuntu4_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[06:52] <OSUKid7> ead: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> try run apt-get update
[06:53] <OSUKid7> I did... many times
[06:53] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get update
[06:53] <OSUKid7> tried it both with and w/o the --fix-missing
[06:53] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: easy compression time, video loss, audio loss cpu usage for playing
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Subtitles?
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: dont think they looked at that aspect
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Ah ok :)
[06:55] <Kr4t05> Night, all
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Night
[06:56] <DaSkreech> OSUKid7: You could grab that deb by itself and install it but that sounds painful
[06:56] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: they dead real and wmv and many of the comercial formats, the tester was suprised how badly the $$$ formats did
[06:56] <OSUKid7> DaSkreech: yes, it does... any idea why this isn't working?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> The new real isn't that bad in terms of size/quality
[06:56] <DaSkreech> The md5sum is a mismatch
[06:56] <DaSkreech> OSUKid7: try a new repos
[06:57] <DaSkreech> change from us to some other country
[06:57] <excitatory> OSUKid7: also, use aptitude instead of apt-get.. it will make it FAR easier to remove the meta package, kubuntu-desktop, if in the future you decide not to use kde. (however, we all know no one ditches kde once they try it ;D)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> excitatory: The entire rest of my office did :)
[06:57] <OSUKid7> heh, alright... I never really knew the difference between apt-get and aptitude... can you explain?
[07:00] <excitatory> OSUKid7: well, i don't know much, but basically aptitude has history and package tracking, which can really make life easier when doing radical system changes.  also, aptitude has an optional ncurses interface, if one so chooses.  i also think the various commands, though almost identical to apt-get, are a little more intuitive.  e.g., the handling of the 'purge' option between apt-get and aptitude.
[07:01] <OSUKid7> ah ok
[07:01] <OSUKid7> hmm... whenever I do an update it pauses for a long while here...
[07:01] <OSUKid7> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages
[07:01] <OSUKid7> 99% [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers] 
[07:02] <excitatory> night, all.
[07:02] <OSUKid7> cya excitatory
[07:05] <tk> ugh
[07:05] <tk> i cant boot my latest kernel now :(
[07:05] <TehKewl1> that was needlessly complicated... and I couldnt get the dependencies :/
[07:09] <DaSkreech> TehKewl1: try apt-get build-dep :)
[07:09] <TehKewl1> I meant I couldnt get the dependancies into the package
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Are you supposed to?
[07:09] <TehKewl1> yeah....
[07:09] <tk> hmmmm, for some reason kdesu HANGS when I try to enter administrator mode for my display settings :(
[07:09] <TehKewl1> the dang script wouldnt work
[07:10] <TehKewl1> all I know is you need plib and GL
[07:11] <tk> this seems to always produce NOTHING: /usr/bin/kdesu --nonewdcop -n -d -iknetworkconf kcmshell kcm_knetworkconfmodule --embed-proxy 29363333 --lang en_US
[07:12] <tk> but when I kill it, I will see the new window popup, then go away because I killed it
[07:12] <tk> anyone seen that before?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> TehKewl1: I think all you need is plib
[07:12] <DaSkreech> It will do mesa if you don't have GL
[07:13] <TehKewl1> ok then... I guess that's easy enough
[07:13] <phoenix_> anyone help me with chroot?  when I execute: chroot /mnt/lfs /bin/sh   it says /bin/sh does not exist, and I checked and yes it does, I dont get it, anyone help?
[07:14] <poseidon> tk: why not just sudo?
[07:15] <tk> poseidon: should it not work out of the box as it was designed to?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: We are talking about SuperTuxkart right?
[07:16] <Linux_Galore> phoenix_:  so in "your" chrooted directory with its own /  /bin/sh exists ?
[07:17] <phoenix_> Linux_Galore: yes
[07:17] <phoenix_> I verified that
[07:17] <Linux_Galore> phoenix_: you you should have two /bin/sh  one in the system and another in the chrooted directory
[07:17] <tk> poseidon: and sudo doesnt affect having to login for SU priveldges in say... SYstem settings from what I can tell (I have a root console open)
[07:18] <phoenix_> Linux_Galore: I do -.-  that's what I am saying
[07:19] <Linux_Galore> phoenix_: you do know /bin/sh on most systems is just a pointer (link or scrip) to /bin/bash
[07:19] <phoenix_> Linux_Galore: yes I know, I tried /bin/bash, /bin/sh, /bin/busybox, and none work
[07:20] <phoenix_> Linux_Galore: it matters not what command I specify in the chroot line, it still fails
[07:20] <phoenix_> Linux_Galore: I can specify nothing, or something dumb, but it makes no difference
[07:20] <TehKewl1> it's uploading
[07:21] <Linux_Galore> phoenix_:  so bash --version  fails ?
[07:21] <phoenix_> Linux_Galore: well it would if I were able to chroot, but it wont let me
[07:24] <phoenix_> Linux_Galore: somehow I am led to believe that kubuntu's chroot is somewhat broken...
[07:24] <larson9999> here's another thing i should know: 'cd' works but 'which cd' doesn't return anything.  why would that be?
[07:25] <tk> so nobody has a better answer than "sudo" to kdesu hanging wen trying to modify system controls?
[07:25] <phoenix_> tk...why would you sudo kdesu?  kdesu works by itself...
[07:25] <tk> phoenix_: i dunno, its what poseidon said....
[07:26] <phoenix_> tk, what are you trying to do again?
[07:26] <tk> phoenix_: but when I opened "display" or "network settings" and click "administrator mode" it never opens the kdesu window... so I Cant change any of my system settings that require root
[07:27] <larson9999> hmmm 'sudo cd' says command not found
[07:27] <phoenix_> well then just do this:   Alt f2,   and then execute: kdesu kcontrol
[07:27] <phoenix_> that should work
[07:27] <phoenix_> it should run the control center as root in general
[07:27] <phoenix_> rather than trying to su to root for a temporary time
[07:27] <tk> phoenix_: nothing opens then
[07:28] <tk> and i get this in my konsole
[07:28] <tk>  6385 ?        S      0:00 kdesu kcontrol
[07:28] <tk>  6394 pts/0    R+     0:00 ps -x
[07:28] <phoenix_> why are you typing it in console?
[07:28] <tk> i didnt, I did ps -x from konsole
[07:29] <phoenix_> just press alt f2
[07:29] <phoenix_> and then type kdesu kcontrol
[07:29] <drgonzo> anyone here using texmacs?
[07:29] <phoenix_> it works
[07:29] <tk> I DID... it got me NOTHING, and when I run "ps -x" from KONSOLE I see the above output
[07:30] <phoenix_> then something about your system is quite borked o.o
[07:31] <phoenix_> try reinstalling kcontrol
[07:31] <tk> it worked last night, nefore I restarted X to run dual monitor, but it ran slow as crap so when I woke up today I killed the 2nd monitor and restarted X again
[07:31] <Tulga> I need download ftp folder's all files. I'm using wget. howto download all files?
[07:31] <tk> Tulga: wget --help tells you how
[07:32] <phoenix_> Tulga, you use wget -r
[07:32] <tk> oke, removing kcontrol
[07:33] <xdemon> hi akk
[07:33] <xdemon> all
[07:33] <xdemon> i need help again :)
[07:33] <Tulga> phoenix_: I don't found options. I tried "wget ftp://www.example.org/files/". howto download files :(
[07:34] <xdemon> adept installer says me that updates availible
[07:34] <OSUKid7> Tulga: read: <phoenix_> Tulga, you use wget -r
[07:34] <xdemon> but when i trying download it i get error!
[07:34] <tk> phoenix_: removing+reinstalling kcontrol nets the same results
[07:35] <phoenix_> tk, wow...hmm.  That's tough
[07:35] <tk> is kdesu part of kcontrol?
[07:35] <phoenix_> nope
[07:35] <phoenix_> I figured kcontrol must be borked
[07:35] <tk> or root part of kde?
[07:35] <phoenix_> gimme one sec
[07:36] <phoenix_> gah, does equery not exist in kubuntu?  -.-
[07:36] <tk> ir eally dont want to reinstall... I JUST set this up last night after reinstalling a week or so ago (got sidetracked in finishing the setup)
[07:36] <phoenix_> tk, well if I can find out what package brings in kdesu, I could get you to try and rebuild that
[07:36] <phoenix_> but a reinstall may be easiest XD
[07:36] <phoenix_> if it works at all
[07:36] <phoenix_> though it should
[07:36] <phoenix_> considering my kdesu works perfectly
[07:37] <tk> phoenix_: yah mine worked fine until I rebooted  bit ago...
[07:38] <phoenix_> tk have to tried rebooting to fix it?  perhaps it works in the reverse XD
[07:39] <Blacken> Well, this is a fine mess. I just tried to remove php5 via apt-get, because I want to use php4. php5 didn't go away. Says it's uninstalled, but I found its binaries all over the place. What gives?
[07:39] <tk> phoenix_: well it worked until I restartedX i should say... then I rebooted because of this problem, and then my latest kernel wouldnt boot X so I had to revert back to the stock 606TL kernel
[07:39] <phoenix_> tk, oh you were doing kernel upgrades?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> NIght
[07:40] <tk> phoenix_: no... it worked fine after the kernel upgrades yesterday, then I turned on dual monitor for my nvidia... restarted X and it was slow as crap, let it run over night, turned off dual Mon, and restart X and we are now where I descided to reboot because kdesu was acting up
[07:41] <phoenix_> it sounds like something broke some of your kde packages then
[07:41] <phoenix_> perhaps an update and upgrade?
[07:41] <tk> can try that
[07:41] <phoenix_> or have you done that already?
[07:41] <tk> wtf... why do i have a locked apt-get
[07:42] <Blacken> tk: Is adept/synaptic/aptitude open?
[07:42] <tk> nope, but I tried to open it earlier, thats why
[07:42] <tk> oh wait, I exited my sudo, thats why :(
[07:42] <tk> long day and its only 2pm
[07:42] <Blacken> tk: Go delete the lock file?
[07:43] <tk> I forgot, I did su 'tk' to run something not as root a bit ago
[07:44] <tk> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:44] <tk> says everything is up-to-date
[07:44] <phoenix_> wow...
[07:45] <phoenix_> too bad apt isn't like portage.  Anyone know how to basically do a reinstall of everything via apt without losing data
[07:45] <phoenix_> ?
[07:46] <tk> maye i can just uninstall kde? and reinstall it?
[07:46] <phoenix_> try that
[07:46] <tk> hmm whats the package name for what comes preinstall with kubuntu?
[07:46] <phoenix_> anyone know how to start ssh in kubuntu?
[07:48] <tk> start shh? or sshd?
[07:49] <phoenix_> sshd
[07:49] <tk> ohhh, havent done that in a long time :( I think I did it with webmin last time I did it :P
[07:49] <phoenix_> psh
[07:50] <phoenix_> where's the script, do u know?
[07:50] <Blacken> Hmm, I think it got itself stuck. After a reboot of the machine, it worked fine.
[07:51] <tk> i would guess in /usr/sbin where apache lands since they are both server daemons
[07:52] <tk> phoenix_:
[07:52] <tk> k        5467  0.0  0.0   4332   684 ?        Ss   14:03   0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startkde
[07:52] <tk> root      7015  0.0  0.0   4768  1032 ?        Ss   14:52   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[07:53] <phoenix_> thanks
[07:53] <tk> just installed it :)
[07:53] <tk> apt-get install ssh (installs its)
[07:56] <tk> phoenix_: dpkg -S kdesu :)
[07:57] <phoenix_> tk, okay?  what for?
[07:57] <tk> wow, removing those will remove 500+megs of stuff
[07:57] <tk> phoenix_:  its how to find what package loads kdesu :)
[07:57] <phoenix_> and does anyone know what port SSH uses?
[07:57] <tk> 22
[07:57] <phoenix_> ty
[07:58] <tk> telnet 23 :)
[07:58] <phoenix_> and FTP is 21?
[07:58] <tk> yup :)
[07:58] <tk> SMTP is 25 and pop is 110 :)
[08:01] <tk> brb...
[08:01] <tk> i hope
[08:02] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a quick install script for Kubuntu/
[08:05] <tk> so far this looks promising
[08:05] <phoenix_> tk sounds good
[08:05] <tk> woo!
[08:05] <tk> i lost all my user settings though
[08:06] <tk> better than losing all my setup time last night htough
[08:06] <phoenix_> ah well, yeah
[08:07] <tk> although my display settings dont prompt me to restart X or anyhting nor do they save....
[08:15] <AWOSDev> I just copied some fonts from my Windows partition to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/xpfonts.
[08:15] <AWOSDev> They copied successfully, and I updated the font cache (using fc-cache).
[08:16] <AWOSDev> I can see that the fonts.cache-1 exists in the xpfonts folder, and it has all the fonts I installed in it.
[08:16] <AWOSDev> But when I go in to Krita to use them, they are not listed.
[08:16] <AWOSDev> What could the problem be?
[08:19] <tk> ugh
[08:19] <tk> i cant now login to admin mode, but I cant apply changes
[08:19] <tk> guess I'll reinstall....
[08:19] <tk> sigh
[08:20] <AWOSDev> reinstall what?
[08:20] <tk> kubuntu
[08:20] <AWOSDev> ew just because you can't use Kcontrol?
[08:21] <tk> I cant use anything that requires kdesu
[08:21] <AWOSDev> Oh ew
[08:22] <tk> I used command line when I was on a p100, I'm not gonna revert to command line as an everyday thing when I have a computer thats 200 times better than that :P
[08:22] <AWOSDev> yes, go reinstall :)
[08:22] <tk> err 20 times maybe
[08:22] <tk> heh
[08:22] <AWOSDev> YOU have a 20GHz!?
[08:22] <AWOSDev> :P
[08:22] <tk> although I have hopes! before all this mess, I actually had my SVID out working :)
[08:23] <tk> maybe I should go with Ubuntu... it never gave me these problems :P
[08:23] <AWOSDev> Just install Ubuntu and then install the kubuntu-desktop package :)
[08:23] <tk> yah thats what Iw as thinking :)
[08:23] <tk> the bluetooth package with ubuntu isnt as finicky too
[08:24] <tk> I dont have to unplug my bluetooth hub every reboot to get it to recognize my periphs
[08:27] <Sehl> Is there a good windows program for recovering data on my kubuntu drive?
[08:28] <AWOSDev> Sehl, all I can say is they have an ext3 driver.for Windows somewhere.  and it worked for me.  that's it.
[08:28] <AWOSDev> that's all I know.
[08:28] <AWOSDev> and don't *ever* try to use ReiserFS on Windows.
[08:28] <AWOSDev> *EVER*
[08:28] <tk> unfortunately, I think I deleted my old ubuntu dvd and gave my live dvd to a friend
[08:28] <Sehl> K...
[08:29] <Sehl> I have the driver. But I can't read any data on the main partition
[08:30] <AWOSDev> Hmm what error?
[08:30] <Sehl> No error, just no data. When I try to boot from the drive, GRUB returns error 2
[08:30] <AWOSDev> hmm
[08:32] <Sehl> I think that "Stellar Phoenix" data recovery might be what I'm looking for. Has anyone heard of it before?
[08:32] <AWOSDev> no
[08:32] <AWOSDev> not me...
[08:32] <tk> nope
[08:32] <Sehl> Not surprising.
[08:32] <Sehl> Guess I'm looking for a data recovery program then.
[08:33] <AWOSDev> I recommend one that starts with A...I can't remember it's name though
[08:33] <tk> I believe there is a program called SpinRite that might help
[08:33] <tk> dont remember if its for fixing HD's or if it allowed date recovery too
[08:33] <Sehl> Ok, give me a second, I'll look it up.
[08:35] <Sehl> Ouch! 89$ for a piece of software.
[08:36] <tk> sehl: for SpinRite?
[08:36] <Sehl> tk: that's what the site says.
[08:37] <tk> ohh
[08:37] <pascalFR>  anyone can help me  with rebuilding apt ?  i am missing some libs
[08:44] <tk> atleast linux downloads faster than windows :)
[08:45] <tk> ohhh  hmmm getting the live CD not hte live DVD but owell :)
[08:47] <tk> hmm amarok just froze :( reinstall is definatelly needed
[08:49] <Sehl> my amarok had been acting funky as well. When listening to streams that is.
[08:50] <tk> this was from an NTFS drive
[08:53] <Sehl> huh?
[08:54] <tk> my Amarok acting up... is reading from an NTFS drive
[08:55] <Dannilion> My Amarok reads from an NTFS drive too, but it's meant to
[08:55] <Dannilion> have you mounted the drive?
[08:58] <tk> Dannilion: if I didnt.... I could read it :P
[08:58] <AWOSDev> tk, Yep mine reads from NTFS too
[08:58] <AWOSDev> bye!
[09:00] <crazy_penguin> Good morning! :)
[09:00] <Dannilion> You haven't set Amarok to scan all your hard drives have you?
[09:01] <tk> Dannilion: the problem is Amarok crashes while playing occasionally...
[09:01] <tk> it just stops playing and stops responding to UI
[09:01] <tk> im not asking for help, im just waiting for my ISO to download so I Can reinstall :P
[09:15] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[09:15] <DarkWizzard> chkrootkit says echo is infected
[09:16] <DarkWizzard> in what package can I find it
[09:16] <DarkWizzard> to reinstall it
[09:18] <tk> dpkg -S echo shows coreutils for /bin/echo
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> I reinstalled coreutils already
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> my system is acting strange
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> it segfaults in the init script
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> s
[09:19] <tk> does the path to echo thats infected?
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> it says failed on preparing restricted modules
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> Checking `echo'... INFECTED
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> Checking `lkm'... /usr/sbin/chkrootkit: line 282: 12367 Segmentation fault      ./chkproc -p ${PV}
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> chkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
[09:19] <tk> hmm
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> usr/sbin/chkrootkit: line 157: 12408 Segmentation fault      ./ifpromisc -q
[09:20] <tk> let me install it and see real quick
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> and the init script with eth0 config says failed
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> I have to configure it manually
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> everytime
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> I wrote a shellscript for it
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> and firestarter cant start
[09:21] <tk> hmmm chkroot reports good for me :(
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> I dont know what should I do
[09:21] <tk> not sure what to tell ya... what services are you running that someone could have exploited?
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> what to reinstall
[09:21] <tk> well... how much stuff do you have thats important?
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> I tryed a script
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> I run it with root
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> and I think it messed up things
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> :(
[09:22] <tk> what script?
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> some compiled sniffer
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> I alredy asked the guy I got it from
[09:22] <DarkWizzard> but no response
[09:22] <tk> is this someone you know?
[09:23] <DarkWizzard> err not really
[09:23] <DarkWizzard> just from a forum
[09:23] <DarkWizzard> I dont know what that script did :(
[09:23] <DarkWizzard> mind portscanning me ?
[09:24] <Arlington> good morning(atleast for me) i have problems with my internet performance when working through my wouter. when just using the dsl modem it's fine...
[09:25] <tk> DarkWizzard: dont have any of those utils setup, uhm.... trend micro offers an online browser based scan...
[09:25] <DarkWizzard> sudo apt-get install nmap
[09:25] <tk> it uses java, or activeX so it works in linux too
[09:25] <DarkWizzard> thats the best one
[09:25] <DarkWizzard> but it doesn't work for me
[09:26] <tk> ok 1 sec
[09:29] <tk> DarkWizzard: how long does it normally take?
[09:29] <tk> ahh here we go
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> not long
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> now
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> sudo nmap -sS -sV -P0 -O 86.126.236.125
[09:29] <DarkWizzard> I hope I dont have some backdoor running
[09:31] <DarkWizzard> ok
[09:31] <DarkWizzard> and btw
[09:31] <DarkWizzard> how can I set up eth0 with ifconfig ?
[09:31] <Arlington> anyone that would be kind enough to  help me with my internetperformance?
[09:33] <fulat2k> hi folks, need some help in setting up samba share on kubuntu.  i've used fileshare to enable sharing and added samba users.  but i get the error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME when i connect.
[09:34] <Arlington> i have severe performance problems when using my network. anyone who can hlep?
[09:41] <phoenix_> what file do you use in kubuntu to specify how eth0 grabs it's default gateway and IP address and such?
[09:41] <Arlington> i don't know :-/
[09:42] <phoenix_> joy >_<
[09:42] <Arlington> the filedownloading is fast and fine just the usage of this client and internet that is slow... vierd
[09:43] <vm> hi, which style in kubuntu is the fastest for slow computers?
[09:45] <phoenixx> does anyone know what file do you use in kubuntu to specify how eth0 grabs it's default gateway and IP address and such?
[09:46] <KDEfanboy> phoenixx: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:53] <phoenixx> KDEfanboy, do you know how to write one properly?
[09:53] <phoenixx> KDEfanboy, I never wrote one other than Gentoo's before
[09:53] <vm> is there other option to install flash under kubuntu without using the wine`s power?
[09:53] <crimsun> vm: flashplugin-nonfree
[09:55] <vm> crimsun - works with konqueror?
[09:58] <afd__> is there a program that integrates kde with kde-look.org? Like, for gnome, there is a gnome-art program that enables browsing, previewing and installing themes, icons, etc
[09:58] <KDEfanboy> phoenixx: just what I need. it's easier to set up in Control Center -> Internet & Network -> Network Settings
[09:58] <phoenixx> KDEfanboy, thanks
[09:59] <crimsun> vm: IME, yes
[09:59] <crimsun> vm: there are certain known issues like a/v sync, etc.
[09:59] <Raul12> I NEED HELP
[10:00] <galorin> I've got a couple of dvd's that I want to rip. what is the easiest way to do this on kubuntu?
[10:00] <Raul12> how to login as root ???
[10:00] <Raul12> plz
[10:00] <Raul12> some 1
[10:00] <KDEfanboy> Raul12: sudo -i
[10:01] <Raul12> no i want to change network setting
[10:01] <galorin> Raul12, it's my understanding that you don't log in as root... generally accepted as "a bad thing"
[10:01] <pascalFR> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-a93fe09558d05b95a3b68200c629ec1cf3a70d7f
[10:01] <pascalFR> rtfm
[10:01] <pascalFR> :)
[10:01] <Raul12> then how i gonna my network setting
[10:02] <pascalFR> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:02] <Raul12> it need administratoe mode
[10:02] <KDEfanboy> Raul12:  Control Center -> Internet & Network -> Network Settings. Click "Administrator Mode"
[10:02] <Raul12> then it want password
[10:03] <Raul12> when i enter my password
[10:03] <pascalFR> it is the password of the first user
[10:03] <Raul12> it says wromg
[10:03] <pascalFR> u used at installation
[10:03] <Raul12> yup
[10:03] <Raul12> yup
[10:03] <pascalFR> try sudo -i  in a konsole
[10:04] <pascalFR> does it accept your password
[10:04] <Raul12> no
[10:04] <pascalFR> how many users did u defined ?
[10:04] <pascalFR> since installation
[10:04] <Raul12> 1
[10:05] <Raul12> ie me
[10:05] <Raul12> when i try to log in as root
[10:05] <Raul12> with my pass
[10:05] <Raul12> it say wrong
[10:05] <pascalFR> root cannot log this is normal
[10:05] <pascalFR> but sudo should work
[10:06] <Raul12> but i need to change in graphical mode
[10:06] <Raul12> will sudo work ?
[10:06] <pascalFR> what for?
[10:06] <Raul12> to change my network setting
[10:06] <KDEfanboy> Raul12: does text mode work?
[10:06] <Raul12> it say need adminmode
[10:07] <Raul12> no
[10:07] <pascalFR> the problem is your password is not accepted
[10:07] <Raul12> yea
[10:07] <pascalFR> what gives   'id'
[10:08] <Raul12> ???
[10:08] <pascalFR> in a shell with your user
[10:08] <Raul12> yea what ??
[10:08] <Raul12> i dun understand
[10:08] <pascalFR> paste the result of 'id' command
[10:08] <pascalFR> in konsole
[10:08] <vm_> buntu - good name for a dof
[10:08] <vm_> dog*
[10:08] <Chani> what dirs in kubuntu tend to accumulate unnecessary cruft? I kinda ran out of disk space...
[10:09] <Raul12> i am in window now as i cant access net from windows
[10:09] <pascalFR> Chani: use filelight to find
[10:09] <KDEfanboy> Chani: /var/cache/apt/archives/ *deb
[10:09] <Chani> pascalFR: I don't appear to have that installed, and I'm not sure I have the space to install it right now
[10:09] <pascalFR> Chani: apt-get autoclean helps
[10:10] <Chani> ah, thanks
[10:10] <pascalFR> it cleans the cache
[10:10] <pascalFR> Raul12: what country are u from?
[10:12] <rod> hi, i'm having problem shutting down kubuntu.  when i try kde dissapears but then it just sits at the kubuntu screen with the progress bar at 0.  i checked the syslog and the last message just says it's gonna shut down.  can anyone point me in the direction of where else i could look to see what's happening here?  cheers!
[10:13] <pascalFR> seems an acpi problem
[10:13] <pascalFR> did it work either ?
[10:13] <rod> yeah it used to work
[10:13] <pascalFR> when did it stopped?
[10:14] <rod> when it's sitting there doing nothing, if i press the off switch it seems to kick it into action a bit and then some things start to shutdown.  but it just pauses later on.
[10:14] <rod> it seemed to stop just around the time i was setting up Xgl maybe?
[10:15] <pascalFR> if u can access a console when it stops    doing a ps -ef could help
[10:15] <rod> what will that tell me pascalFR?
[10:15] <pascalFR> to know what process are still running
[10:16] <Chani> hmm. I have a fair amount of space now. but I guess it'lll fill up again soon, and I'll have to choose between gentoo and anime :(
[10:16] <pascalFR> Chani: try filelight also :)
[10:16] <Chani> oh yeah
[10:16] <rod> well, i think pretty much everything is still running as i don't get any info about services being stopped?
[10:17] <pascalFR> yes but this is an important info to know the state of processes after u issue the shutdown
[10:17] <rod> ok, i'll try it now.  thanks
[10:18] <vm_> question: how to make konversation show me the list o # in irc.freenode.net ?
[10:18] <pascalFR> something is waiting for someting ...
[10:18] <vm_> #konversation
[10:18] <pascalFR> pastebin it   and we can try to look at it
[10:18] <pascalFR> vm_ F5
[10:19] <vm_> pascalFR - thanks. are you french?
[10:19] <pascalFR> yes
[10:20] <vm_> pascalFR - more than 50% of man with i`m talking here are french
[10:20] <pascalFR> vm_: that's a sign ,)
[10:23] <vm> i think that www.ubuntu.org should think about donating this domain do Ubuntu linux
[10:33] <Arlington_> how can i ste up thing to autorun? like superkaramba?
[10:33] <Chani> you mean when you log in?
[10:34] <Arlington_> riddel > can u kick Arlington it's me in another form... my comp. hang up.
[10:34] <Chani> I just leave stuff running when I log out, kde's default behaviour is to start it up again when I log in
[10:34] <Arlington_> chani. ok. but is there anyway to force that?
[10:35] <Chani> yes, I can't remember off the top of my head
[10:35] <Arlington_> okay thnx. anyway.
[10:35] <Chani> one way is in kde's setting somewhere, I think it might be callled 'saved settings'.
[10:35] <Chani> another way is to edit ~/.xinitrc
[10:35] <Arlington_> i wan't tomount my dvd rom. what file system shouldi choose for it?
[10:36] <berkes> does anyone know a good tool to create disk images?
[10:36] <KDEfanboy> Arlington for KDE, put a script/.desktop in $KDEHOME/Autostart . you can go there quickly in Konqueror at Go -> Autostart
[10:36] <KDEfanboy> i think the Go menu is in the default Kubuntu installation, anyway
[10:37] <Arlington_> thanx. it's locked though and even though i have admin priveligies i can't change it...
[10:38] <Chani> berkes: do you mean cd (.iso) images? or are you talking about copying hard drive partitions?
[10:38] <KDEfanboy> Arlington locked?
[10:38] <berkes> Chani: the latter
[10:38] <Chani> berkes: iirc, I've just used dd in the past. can't remember what options I used though
[10:39] <Arlington_> the icon has a lock over it...
[10:39] <cpk2> !shockwave
[10:39] <ubotu> shockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[10:39] <ge2x>  is there a way for me to upgrade from kubuntu to slackware and keep all my documents?
[10:39] <ge2x> plz tell me
[10:39] <berkes> Chani: yea, I've also tried mkisfs (and growisofs)
[10:39] <berkes> they are quite cool too :)
[10:40] <rod> hi pascal, i tried switching VT's to get a console but couldn't, it kept switching back to the kubuntu screen.  BUT, it did make me realise that if after i've tried to shutdown and it's sitting at the kubuntu screen, if i try and switch to VT7 then it tries it once or twice, then switches back to VT1 and says it's stopped the KDM service and the shutdown goes on fine.  is this a clue?
[10:41] <KDEfanboy> Arlington probably just need to make sure you have view/modify permissions in the properties->permissions
[10:43] <calcmandan> Has anyone installed kubuntu on a flash drive?
[10:43] <KDEfanboy> ..looks like it keeps the locked icon even after changing it to proper permissions for some reason tho
[10:44] <Arlington_> it says owner root. i've added root to my permissions in users menu but it still dosn't work.
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i know its early but ar eyou here?
[10:44] <cpk2> is there a way to get my media keys (play/stop increase/decrease volume etc) to work?
[10:45] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[10:45] <cpk2> with amarok preferably
[10:45] <DarkWizzard> can anyone help me with firestarter ?
[10:45] <DarkWizzard> darkwizzard@DarkNet:~$ sudo firestarter -s
[10:45] <DarkWizzard> External network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[10:45] <DarkWizzard> Failed to start the firewall
[10:45] <DarkWizzard> The device eth0 is not ready.
[10:45] <DarkWizzard> Please check your network device settings and make sure your
[10:45] <DarkWizzard> Internet connection is active.
[10:45] <KDEfanboy> Arlington ah.. no, by $KDEHOME I mean what defaults to ~/.kde
[10:46] <Arlington_> i'am sooo new to linux. please explain how to go about to do this..
[10:46] <DarkWizzard> how can I run firestarter for eth0:0 ?
[10:46] <KDEfanboy> Arlington_: does Konqueror have the Go menu?
[10:47] <KDEfanboy> Go menu item in the menubar I mean
[10:47] <Arlington_> yup.
[10:47] <KDEfanboy> Arlington_: you're logged in as a normal user?
[10:47] <Arlington_> yes me only user with all privelegies.
[10:48] <KDEfanboy> Arlington_: hmm well assuming it takes you to /home/user/.kde/Autostart, nothing in /home/user/.kde should be owned by root
[10:49] <tk> ugh, of course me cd appears to be non bootable :(
[10:49] <Arlington_> it takes me to /root/autostart
[10:49] <DarkWizzard> Arlington_: whats the problem ?
[10:50] <Arlington_> i wan't to force kde to launch superkaramba at startup.
[10:50] <fdoving> Arlington_: you're running kde as root, that's not very smart.
[10:51] <KDEfanboy> Arlington_: hm, what do you mean when you say you've added root to your permissions in user menu?
[10:51] <Arlington_> no i'm not i'am running it as the user I created when i installed.
[10:51] <Arlington_> system setup ---> users and groups
[10:51] <DarkWizzard> do a symlink to Autostart
[10:52] <Arlington_> what is a symlink?
[10:52] <Arlington_> then added root to groups
[10:52] <DarkWizzard> shortcut
[10:52] <DarkWizzard> in windows language
[10:52] <Arlington_> okay how to do that?
[10:52] <sybux> Arlington_: ln -s source linkname
[10:52] <DarkWizzard> ln -s
[10:52] <fdoving> Arlington_: ah, that's not advisable. adding root to your grups, that is.
[10:52] <KDEfanboy> Arlington_: when you type 'id' in Konsole, what uid does it say?
[10:52] <Arlington_> i'll delete it then.
[10:52] <DarkWizzard> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/superkaramba /home/user/.kde/Autostart
[10:53] <fdoving> Arlington_: hang on. might need to change some permissions first.
[10:53] <Arlington_> uid=1000 (jonas)
[10:53] <fdoving> Arlington_: if you do as kdefanboy says. open a konsole (kstart -> system -> konsole) and run the command 'id', what does 'gid=' say?
[10:53] <fdoving> Arlington_: that was uid, what does gid say?
[10:54] <DarkWizzard> ok then
[10:54] <Arlington_> 1000 (jonas)
[10:54] <Arlington_> uid=1000(jonas) gid=1000(jonas) grupper=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),111(admin),1000(jonas)
[10:54] <DarkWizzard> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/superkaramba /home/jonas/.kde/Autostart
[10:54] <fdoving> Arlington_: can't see root there.
[10:54] <Arlington_> i took it away because you said it was bad.
[10:55] <Arlington_> having it as group.
[10:55] <DarkWizzard> Arlington_: whoami
[10:55] <Arlington_> says jonas
[10:55] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[10:55] <DarkWizzard> thenm
[10:55] <DarkWizzard> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/superkaramba /home/jonas/.kde/Autostart
[10:55] <DarkWizzard> should do the trick
[10:56] <Arlington_> i did tthat and ehtered my password. just skipped down to jonas@jonas-desktop:
[10:56] <Arlington_> does that mean it's done?
[10:57] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[10:57] <DarkWizzard> restart x
[10:57] <Arlington_> nice. thnx
[10:57] <Arlington_> sure will.
[10:57] <DarkWizzard> ctrl alt backspace
[10:58] <DarkWizzard> guys
[10:58] <DarkWizzard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25386/
[10:58] <DarkWizzard> whats with firestarter ?
[10:59] <DarkWizzard> did it work ?
[10:59] <KDEfanboy> hm well, when doing ln, probably should not have prepended 'sudo ', as it's not needed and just creates the symlink owned/grouped by root. won't cause run problems tho
[10:59] <Arlington> back again. well it did what yuo told me but it  didn't give me the result i wanted.
[10:59] <DarkWizzard> what did you want ?
[11:00] <DarkWizzard> tell it more specific
[11:00] <Arlington> i wanted to autostart the plugins tat run under superkaramba.
[11:00] <Arlington> that
[11:00] <DarkWizzard> err
[11:00] <DarkWizzard> what kind of plugins ?
[11:00] <Arlington> sorry. thought it would do. liquidweather to precise
[11:01] <DarkWizzard> can anyone help me with my firewall ?
[11:01] <DarkWizzard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25386/
[11:03] <cpk2> why do you want a firewall?
[11:03] <DarkWizzard> lol
[11:03] <fdoving> DarkWizzard: why do you have the IP on a alias device?
[11:03] <Arlington> darkwizzard. sorry if i made work for nothing :-(
[11:03] <DarkWizzard> :) no prob Arlington
[11:03] <DarkWizzard> fdoving:
[11:03] <DarkWizzard> no ideea
[11:03] <DarkWizzard> I have to configure it with ifconfig
[11:03] <DarkWizzard> how do i do it for the main device
[11:04] <DarkWizzard> so
[11:04] <DarkWizzard> ifconfig eth0 up
[11:04] <DarkWizzard> then
[11:04] <Arlington> what is the adress to the non restricted multiverse?
[11:04] <DarkWizzard> ifconfig eth0 add ip
[11:04] <fdoving> DarkWizzard: for example: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
[11:05] <DarkWizzard> broadcast ?
[11:05] <fdoving> you can add that too..
[11:05] <DarkWizzard> ok
[11:05] <DarkWizzard> I'll try
[11:05] <Arlington> anyone?
[11:05] <DarkWizzard> but how can i delete the alias ?
[11:05] <KDEfanboy> Arlington: didn't think of that.. well, it's probably easier to just set the session manager to start with a saved/previous session than to use Autostart. otherwise, remove that /home/user/Autostart/superkaramba file and put a script there that runs superkaramba with the liquidweather.theme file as an argument
[11:05] <fdoving> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255
[11:06] <fdoving> DarkWizzard: sure, 'ifconfig eth0 del ip'
[11:06] <Arlington> there is no such file in the /home/jonas directory
[11:07] <KDEfanboy> Arlington: sorry, i meant /home/user/.kde/Autostart/superkaramba. remove that file..
[11:08] <rod> hi, i'm having problems shutting down my kubuntu.  i think i;ve tracked the problem to an error message in the syslog about fglrx.  if i try switching to VT7 after issueing shutdown then it kicks it into action and the shutdown continues, otherwise it just waits at the kubuntu screen and does nothing.  the shutdown is also fine if i issue the command as root.  any help appriciated, thanks.
[11:08] <KDEfanboy> Arlington: what is your session manager login option set to? (Control Center -> KDE Components -> Session Manager -> "On Login")
[11:09] <cpk2> rod: stopping kubuntu or turning off your computer?
[11:09] <benjamin> rod: i think u should try to go on #ubuntu
[11:10] <rod> stopping kubuntu, ok, i'll try over at ubuntu, thanks.
[11:11] <cpk2> rod: i thought you always had to do invoke-rc.d kdm stop as sudo
[11:11] <Arlington> continue last session( translated from swedish
[11:12] <KDEfanboy> Arlington: ok, then it should work fine like this: (first make sure you removed the /home/user/.kde/Autostart/superkaramba file!) .. Set up superkaramba and load all the plugins that you want. then simply logout of KDE properly, then log back in
[11:13] <KDEfanboy> if superkaramba is running when you log out, it will be restored when you log back in with whatever plugins it had
[11:14] <rod> cpk2: i mean, if i click shutdown on my kde panel it doesn't work.  but if i open a console and sudo shutdown it's fine
[11:15] <cpk2> rod: my kde panel doesnt even have a shutdown...
[11:16] <gyaresu> Hi. KAudioCreator "Encoder was not Found" whilst trying to encode to FLAC. Anyone know why. Google's no help.
[11:17] <galorin> gyaresu, simple question, do you have a flac encoder installed?
[11:17] <gyaresu> yes libflac7
[11:17] <cpk2> hrmm i think libxine has flac in it...
[11:17] <gyaresu> all defaults. no silly config altering on my part...
[11:18] <gyaresu> no bug reports either.
[11:19] <Zaire> anyone in here know how I can get vsftpd to allow me to install phpbb2?
[11:19] <zorglu_> gyaresu: launch it from konsole and see if it dumps some more precise message
[11:19] <gyaresu> zorglu_, good idea.
[11:19] <Zaire> or is there an easier way?
[11:20] <gyaresu> someone mind "which flac" for me. I don't get any response.
[11:20] <Zaire> !phpbb
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpbb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <Chani> anyone know anything about giflib?
[11:21] <Chani> cmake is refusing to believe that I installed it
[11:23] <gyaresu> kaudiocreator gives no messages on terminal and has no verbose action.
[11:24] <gyaresu> would someone with libflac7 installed please give me the output of "which flac" for them.
[11:24] <gyaresu> please?
[11:24] <zorglu_> the tric is to find out what 'encoder' it is looking for
[11:24] <gyaresu> zorglu_, the flac --blah string | comes up but I don't seem to have the flac binary.
[11:24] <gyaresu> zorglu_, I can't locate it.
[11:24] <zorglu_> i do have it
[11:25] <zorglu_> libflac7 i mean
[11:25] <gyaresu> zorglu_, "/usr/bin/flac"
[11:25] <gyaresu> zorglu_, yes but the binary?
[11:25] <zorglu_> nope i dont have this one either
[11:25] <gyaresu> zorglu_, so you can't call 'flac' from the command line?
[11:25] <zorglu_> nope
[11:26] <gyaresu> zorglu_, Thanks. I'll install grip and see if it can find it. I get the feeling it's kaudiocreators fault.
[11:26] <gyaresu> cheers.
[11:27] <zorglu_> ok
[11:28] <gyaresu> zorglu_, No. Grip can't find the flac executable either...
[11:28] <gyaresu> very odd.
[11:28] <gyaresu> zorglu_, do you rip in flac?
[11:28] <DarkWizzard> me again
[11:28] <DarkWizzard> hey all
[11:29] <DarkWizzard> stty
[11:29] <DarkWizzard> Segmentation fault
[11:29] <DarkWizzard> this is my problem
[11:29] <DarkWizzard> stty segfaults
[11:29] <DarkWizzard> what package is it part of ?
[11:29] <gyaresu> Anyone else here ripped CD's with grip/kaudiocreator successfully with FLAC encoding? Dapper.
[11:30] <cpk2> just out of curiousity why flac?
[11:30] <fdoving> DarkWizzard: coreutils
[11:30] <gyaresu> cpk2, Lossless compression for my CD's. Basically one2one backup.
[11:30] <DarkWizzard> strange
[11:31] <fdoving> DarkWizzard: sudo apt-get install --reinstall  coreutils
[11:31] <DarkWizzard> I just reinstalled that packet
[11:31] <DarkWizzard> I'll try again
[11:31] <gyaresu> cpk2, 700MB down to 300~350MB without loss of quality.
[11:31] <cpk2> how good is ogg?
[11:31] <gyaresu> cpk2, up to 800Kbps
[11:31] <Zaire> its good
[11:32] <gyaresu> cpk2, verses mp3's 320Kbps
[11:32] <cpk2> not good enough for an audiophile like gyaresu though =)
[11:32] <Zaire> can anyone give me any other ftp program names aside from gftp
[11:32] <DarkWizzard> hmm
[11:32] <DarkWizzard> this suxx
[11:32] <DarkWizzard> stty segfaults
[11:32] <DarkWizzard> again
[11:32] <DarkWizzard> just reinstalled the packet
[11:32] <DarkWizzard> anyone any ideea ?
[11:33] <Zaire> !ftp
[11:33] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[11:33] <gyaresu> cpk2, You can always convert to lossy codecs for whatever ipod/iriver thingy is the next big thing as long as you have the originals.
[11:33] <DarkWizzard> krusader is nice
[11:33] <DarkWizzard> :D
[11:33] <DarkWizzard> for ftp
[11:33] <infbliss> Zaire:does not nautilus recognize ftp://
[11:33] <cpk2> i thought i heard somewhere ogg was lossless or near lossless
[11:33] <gyaresu> Anyone used FLAC encoding successfully on Dapper?
[11:33] <cpk2> guess i heard wrong =P
[11:33] <gyaresu> No-one so far.
[11:33] <Zaire> its not that its like the ftp server isn't giving me proper acces rights
[11:34] <gyaresu> cpk2, opensource and high quality but still lossy.
[11:34] <DarkWizzard> hmm
[11:34] <DarkWizzard> what is the output of stty for you guys ?
[11:34] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: check your disk, your memory, your cpu
[11:34] <cpk2> gyaresu: i just cant imagine having every cd i put onto my computer take up 300 mB
[11:34] <cpk2> my library wouldbe huge
[11:34] <zorglu_> Dar
[11:35] <DarkWizzard> err what should I look for ?
[11:35] <gyaresu> cpk2, remebering that 192Kbps is fine for most human ears.
[11:35] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: it is *very* unlikely that stty does core without hardware being damanged
[11:35] <gyaresu> cpk2,  AU$1000 of HDD's for the win.
[11:35] <DarkWizzard> your scaring me
[11:35] <cpk2> wow
[11:36] <cpk2> i have about US$300 of HDD =D
[11:36] <DarkWizzard> MemFree:         42616 kB
[11:36] <DarkWizzard> this is more than I used to have
[11:36] <zorglu_> ok:)
[11:36] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: sorry it is a misunderstanding
[11:36] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: the point here is stty is a code being there and working for age
[11:37] <DarkWizzard>  I know
[11:37] <DarkWizzard> but
[11:37] <DarkWizzard> my system is pretty broken
[11:37] <DarkWizzard> donno what happened
[11:37] <DarkWizzard> init scripts segfault
[11:37] <zorglu_> oh ok :)
[11:37] <zorglu_> what about reintall from scratch ?
[11:37] <DarkWizzard> I had to write ifconfig to /etc/rc.local
[11:37] <DarkWizzard> zorglu_: I dont have that much free time :D
[11:37] <DarkWizzard> as long as it boots
[11:38] <Zaire> Im trying to setup phpbb2 but I can't chmod the config or get to and launch the install file
[11:38] <DarkWizzard> what does stty do anyway ?
[11:38] <DarkWizzard>        stty - change and print terminal line settings
[11:38] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: well at long as you do have the time to handle all the problems you got because you dont want to reinstall :)
[11:38] <DarkWizzard> hmmm
[11:38] <Zaire> and the messed up part is this is all being done local
[11:39] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: that said, looking at stty will not fix it
[11:39] <DarkWizzard> mkdir segfaulted
[11:39] <DarkWizzard> yesterday
[11:39] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: what im trying to say is that reinstall from scratch is the only choice you got
[11:39] <DarkWizzard> I ran some stupid script with root
[11:40] <DarkWizzard> and now mkdir works
[11:40] <DarkWizzard> I have to do something with stty
[11:40] <DarkWizzard> it has to be some reason for all this
[11:40] <DarkWizzard> this is not windows
[11:40] <DarkWizzard> we can figure it out somehow
[11:40] <zorglu_> hehe you are not listening to me :)
[11:40] <gyaresu> DarkWizzard, Did you reinstall or change something to do with gcc?
[11:40] <DarkWizzard> err no
[11:41] <DarkWizzard> but now that you say it
[11:41] <DarkWizzard> it would be better to reinstlal libc
[11:41] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: please for you other questions, do say that 'mkdir and stty are doing core dump'
[11:41] <gyaresu> DarkWizzard, Just keep you home dir and the etc dir and hose the rest. That's a great difference from Windows ;)
[11:41] <Zaire> I noticed theres a version of phpbb2 availabe via apt but I installed it and can't find it or figure out how to set it up
[11:41] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: helper will know they dont have to try fix your issue as it is not fixable :)
[11:42] <DarkWizzard> zorglu_: I had bigger problems
[11:42] <zorglu_> DarkWizzard: REINSTALL
[11:42] <DarkWizzard> they told me that then too
[11:42] <DarkWizzard> and I fixed it
[11:42] <DarkWizzard> ok guys
[11:42] <DarkWizzard> anyway thanks for your help
[11:42] <DarkWizzard> zorglu_: thats my last resort :D
[11:43] <zorglu_> and your most efficient choise :)
[11:44] <cpk2> anyone here use azureus?
[11:44] <zorglu_> ye'
[11:44] <cpk2> it gave me a disk write error =\
[11:44] <cpk2> "nullpointerexception"
[11:45] <cpk2> and #azureus-support is dead like usual
[11:45] <Zaire> whats the easiest ftp server to use
[11:46] <zorglu_> cpk2: find the error. it could be right management or disk space
[11:46] <Zaire> ?
[11:46] <Zaire> !ftp
[11:46] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[11:46] <Chani> Zaire: I don't know about easiest, but the most popular is probably proftpd
[11:46] <cpk2> zorglu_: mind telling me where i would find the error log?
[11:47] <Zaire> just wondering cause vsftpd keeps giving me errors and saying I don't even have access rights to my own home directory
[11:47] <zorglu_> cpk2: where you got this 'nullpointer' stuff... i guess it is close. or it put popup to get the message... or you can setup a log file.... or you can launch it from a console to get them too :)
[11:48] <cpk2> zorglu_: that was the from the gui
[11:49] <fdoving> Zaire: vsftpd is nice. check that you have local_enable=YES in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[11:49] <Zaire> it is
[11:49] <Zaire> by all means it should work but doesn't
[11:50] <Zaire> gives me either you do nto have permissions or failed to change directory
[11:51] <fdoving> can you pastebin your vsftpd.conf ?
[11:52] <Zaire> I removed my vsftpd but I was using the config of a friend of mine who uses ubuntu and he uses his frequently with no probs
[11:52] <Zaire> I should still have it handy though
[11:52] <fdoving> what's the permissions on your /home/user directory=
[11:53] <Zaire> not even sure but my main concern is the www directory Im trying to access for phpbb2
[11:53] <fdoving> Zaire: in konsole you can run 'stat $HOME'
[11:54] <afd__> any edgy kde repository? I can't see edgy in the pool on kubuntu.org
[11:54] <Zaire> apparently I can't even cd to home directory now
[11:55] <fdoving> afd__: the newest KDE is already in edgy, no need to use kubuntu.org
[11:55] <fdoving> Zaire: that would explain alot.
[11:55] <afd__> fdoving: thanks
[11:55] <Zaire> not really cause it was fine before
[11:55] <fdoving> Zaire: 'sudo stat -c %a /home/username'
[11:56] <sybux> I've got a liitle problem with my audio devive. I've got a SoundBlaster card and a USB headset. The USB headset is my default device and I don't know where to change it
[11:57] <Zaire> 666 is the number I get from that command
[11:57] <Jucato> O_O
[11:58] <Zaire> yes my computer is evil lol
[11:58] <fdoving> Zaire: ok, run 'sudo chmod 755 $HOME'
[11:58] <High|ander> hello guys
[11:58] <High|ander> just trying out kubuntu
[11:58] <High|ander> Looking nice so far :)
[11:59] <Jucato> :)
[11:59] <Zaire> there
[12:02] <cpk2> !sunjava
[12:02] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:02] <ask_> Hello, anyone feels like helping with mounting a USB HDD?
[12:02] <ask_> And earning eternal gratitude
[12:02] <zorglu_> !java
[12:02] <zorglu_> sorry misread
[12:04] <cpk2> hehe
[12:04] <gabriel1> Hello
[12:04] <cpk2> although i think i might need the !java link so i can see how to link everything to use the sunjava
[12:05] <Zaire> is there anyway I can temporarily change permisions on /var/www ?
[12:05] <cpk2> Zaire: you dont need to *actually* put files into www
[12:05] <cpk2> you can link them
[12:06] <Zaire> Im trying to get phpbb2 installed
[12:06] <Zaire> it needs a directory
[12:06] <cpk2> zorglu_: i think my azureus problem was that i wasnt using sun java though
[12:10] <cpk2> !java
[12:10] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:10] <ge2x> i just created a new partition but i dont know how to mount it plz help me
[12:10] <Zaire> I can get to the phpbb2 install page from my home directory but its all gibberish cause its not seeing php and msysql
[12:11] <Zaire> !phpbb
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpbb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <Zaire> !phpbb2
[12:11] <ubotu> phpbb2: A fully featured and skinnable flat (non-threaded) webforum. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-2 (dapper), package size 522 kB, installed size 2672 kB
[12:12] <cpk2> Zaire: did you make your sql tables?
[12:12] <Zaire> ?
[12:13] <cpk2> you need to populate your tables first i am pretty sure
[12:13] <ge2x> !partitions
[12:13] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:13] <Zaire> from what I understood that could be done after so long as mysql db is available php is just for the install interface
[12:13] <Acidic32> how do i reconfigure X
[12:14] <Acidic32> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-something
[12:14] <Acidic32> cant remember
[12:14] <Acidic32> ubotu edgy
[12:14] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:14] <cpk2> Zaire: i might be wrong heh
[12:14] <octan> !fglrx
[12:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:15] <Acidic32> !dpkg
[12:15] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[12:15] <Acidic32> !dpkg-reconfigure
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkg-reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <Acidic32> lol
[12:15] <Zaire> one click install my ascii's
[12:15] <cpk2> Acidic32: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:15] <cpk2> as sudo
[12:15] <Acidic32> ahh i was close :p
[12:15] <Acidic32> ta
[12:17] <Arlington> is it possible to make this procedure automated? "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>"
[12:17] <cpk2> Arlington: what program you using?
[12:17] <Arlington> konversation.
[12:18] <cpk2> Arlington: go to settings and then identities
[12:19] <Arlington> yup.
[12:19] <cpk2> Arlington: at the bottom there is an auto identify section put your password into the password field
[12:19] <Acidic32> better
[12:19] <Acidic32> i can see things properly, 640x480 is crap :P
[12:20] <vm> hi. when i was installing kubuntu on vmware i had not installed sound drivers in windows. now i installed the windows drivers but i still don`t have sound under kubuntu. what`s wrong?
[12:20] <Arlington> Notis]  -NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else
[12:20] <Arlington> [12:20]  [Notis]  -NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[12:20] <matti_> does anyone know hoe to fix that nfs volumes get mounted on boot, in edgy?
[12:21] <cpk2> matti_: i think all edgy questions go to #ubuntu+1
[12:21] <matti_> thanks, cpk2
[12:22] <Arlington> cpk2 didn't work :-( i use swedish as my languagae if that can affect something.
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Arlington: type /msg nickserv identify password     password being your registered nicks password
[12:22] <cpk2> Arlington: you have this nick registered right?
[12:22] <Zaire> k how do I mass move all files from one file folder to another?
[12:23] <cpk2> gnomefreak: he wants it automated
[12:23] <Arlington> yes cpk2
[12:23] <Tunic_> hmmm
[12:23] <Zaire> k how do I mass move all files from one file folder to another?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Arlington: what chat client?
[12:23] <cpk2> Zaire: move the directory? =P
[12:24] <Tunic_> someone already registered my nick.  Curses!
[12:24] <Arlington> konversation.
[12:24] <cpk2> Tunic_: someone registered cpk1 before me
[12:24] <Zaire> no all the files inside one directory to another without doinf it single file
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Arlington: there is a way of doing it but im not big on konversation but i know people that have done it
[12:24] <Tunic_> cpk2: no respect, these kids today.
[12:24] <cpk2> problem is i think i am the one who registered cpk1 and i completely forgot the password =(
[12:24] <Tunic_> heheh
[12:25] <Tunic_> I tried several of my usual passwords, to no avail, so I'm assuming it wasn't me
[12:25] <Zaire> what kids lol Im not
[12:25] <Arlington> well i have got the same thing told to me on how to do it but it osn't work :-/
[12:25] <cpk2> Arlington , gnomefreak I am using konversation and do it no problem
[12:25] <Tunic_> so we're having horrible problems with thin (diskless) clients and ltsp over here
[12:25] <gnomefreak> hold on let me pull it up
[12:26] <Tunic_> can't get the keyboards to work, you see... at least, not once you hit the desktop login
[12:26] <cpk2> Arlington: your registered nick is Arlington correct?
[12:26] <Tunic_> they seem to work in text mode....
[12:26] <Zaire> still is there a way to mass copy just the files in a directory to another directory?
[12:26] <vm> question:  when i was installing kubuntu on vmware i had not installed sound drivers in windows. now i installed the windows drivers but i still don`t have sound under kubuntu. what`s wrong?
[12:26] <Arlington> i can manually identify each time i log on but i rather not do that all the time.
[12:26] <Arlington>  -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized
[12:27] <Zaire> still is there a way to mass copy just the files in a directory to another directory?
[12:27] <Tunic_> anybody else encountered the dreaded "keyboard lockup" bug?  we've been hacking away at this for about 6 hours now...
[12:28] <Arlington> sorry my isp wen't down. cpk2 can you repeat if you wrote anything th last minute?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Arlington: did you restart it after making the settings
[12:28] <Arlington> yes.
[12:28] <cpk2> Arlington: your registered nick is Arlington correct?
[12:28] <Arlington> yes
[12:28] <fdoving> Zaire: 'mv /folder1/* /folder2/' that will copy all the files in /folder1/ to /folder2/
[12:29] <cpk2> Arlington: and the first entry in the nickname box is Arlington
[12:29] <cpk2> ?
[12:29] <Zaire> thank you Im getting a tad impatient cause its late and I wan to get this done :S
[12:29] <Arlington> yes
[12:30] <Tunic_> Zaire: I know just how you feel.
[12:31] <cox377_> I've got a digital camara hooked uptoi my kubuntu, is there anyway to format the chip on it
[12:31] <cox377_> i've done this under M$ systems so i thought there muyst be an option under kubuntu
[12:32] <cpk2> Arlington: dont know what to say, that is pretty much exactly how I am set up and konversation auto identifies when i start it up
[12:32] <Tunic_> The deafening silence leads me to think that maybe nobody can help me *melodramatic sigh*  *staples hand to forehead*
[12:32] <Arlington> *sighs*
[12:32] <cpk2> Tunic_: wont hurt to try #ubuntu
[12:32] <vm> how to check when LjL was here last tiem?
[12:33] <Tunic_> cpk2: yeah I'll do that.
[12:33] <Arlington> the nickserv says password incorrect. but it's not... it is 100% sure the right password.
[12:35] <Skalord> Hola
[12:35] <cpk2> hi
[12:35] <Skalord> i need help for kubuntu
[12:35] <cpk2> Arlington: are you sure that it is trying to ident as Arlington?
[12:36] <Skalord> what?
[12:36] <Arlington> how can i check that?
[12:36] <Arlington> NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else
[12:36] <Arlington> [12:35]  [Notis]  -NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[12:36] <Arlington> [12:35]  [Notis]  -NickServ- Password Incorrect
[12:37] <Arlington> but when i run/ msg nickserv identify <password> it works,
[12:38] <cpk2> Arlington: you dont have any other identities in the identities setup?
[12:38] <Arlington> no just arlington. allthough the real name speciefied is jonas...
[12:38] <cpk2> Arlington: actually it might not be identing me either, one moment
[12:39] <Skalord> i need help for kubuntu
[12:39] <Arlington> try sending private message to me.
[12:39] <VincentMX> !ati
[12:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:39] <vm> who here can help wtih kubuntu on vmware?
[12:39] <VincentMX> ubotu, thnx
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thnx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <Skalord> can anyone help me with kubuntu
[12:41] <Arlington> cpk2 did you come to any conclusion
[12:41] <Arlington> Skalord what is the problem?
[12:42] <Skalord> well i dont know what im supposed to do to install kubuntu and dont losing any files i have in windows
[12:42] <cpk2> Arlington: i made a mistake, in the service field put nickserv
[12:42] <Arlington> you have to create new partitions on the hard drive
[12:42] <vm> how to run newly installed music card in computer (in kubuntu)?
[12:43] <Skalord> Arlington but i dont know if C.\ and D:\ on my pc are partitions or hard drives
[12:43] <cpk2> Skalord: how much free space do you have?
[12:43] <Arlington> didn't work.... aaaaargh
[12:43] <Skalord> in c:\ 1,5 gb and in D:\ 19 gb
[12:44] <Arlington> how much free space in the d:
[12:44] <Skalord> 19 gb
[12:45] <Arlington> well then i would through the kubuntu installer create 2 new partitions on the d:
[12:45] <cpk2> Skalord: you can run disk defragmenter in windows and then create a new partition from the space to use for kubuntu
[12:45] <Arlington> one for / and one for swap
[12:45] <Skalord> im running the defragmenter on d:\
[12:45] <Skalord> is that right?
[12:45] <Zaire> k I messed something up again only this time I can't cd to /var/www
[12:46] <cpk2> Skalord: yes
[12:46] <cpk2> Zaire: are you doing this remote or local?
[12:46] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> hm but it is in 2% and it doesnt go go on :(
[12:46] <Zaire> local at the moment
[12:46] <cpk2> does root own /var/www?
[12:47] <Zaire> normally yes but I should still be able to cd into it
[12:47] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> ok it works again and when it finishs what am i supposed to do?
[12:47] <Skalord> burn the iso image to a cd?
[12:48] <Zaire> var is set at chmod 666 it would seem
[12:48] <cpk2> Arlington: If you have registered your nickname with the IRC network, enter the service and password to authenticate your nickname. When Konversation connects, it will automatically send /msg service IDENTIFY password to the server. If you don't know what this is, leave these boxes blank.
[12:48] <vm> !info LjL
[12:48] <ubotu> Package ljl does not exist in any distro I know
[12:48] <cpk2> thats straight from the help =\
[12:48] <cpk2> Skalord: eh?
[12:48] <vm> !sound
[12:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:49] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> i need to burn the iso image to a cd no? and then start the installer from the cd
[12:49] <cpk2> Skalord: yes, burn to a cd as an iso
[12:50] <Arlington> how do i authenticate my username?
[12:50] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> ok but thefile i downloaded was a .rar file and i extracted it to D:\ shall i put all the files which where in the .rar on the cd
[12:51] <cpk2> Arlington: what do you mean?
[12:51] <cpk2> Skalord: you should have downloading either an iso or an iso inside a rar
[12:51] <Zaire> ok so I can cd to var but not www
[12:51] <Arlington> i did'nt understand you phrase. what was i supposed to do?
[12:52] <cpk2> the help says to put "nickserv" in the service field and your password in the password field and it will auto login for you
[12:54] <vm> Riddel - how check when LjL was?
[12:54] <Zaire> well Im off its 5 am here
[12:54] <vm> Zaire - there is 1pm here in civilised eastern europe
[12:55] <Tm_T> vm: pm?
[12:55] <Tm_T> 13:55
[12:55] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> the iso image is called start isn't it
[12:56] <fdoving> !sources.list
[12:56] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:56] <vm> Tm_T - 12:56
[12:56] <cpk2> !iso
[12:56] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:57] <cpk2> Skalord: ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso is the name of th iso
[12:57] <cpk2> i suggest you get the iso from  http://releases.ubuntu.com
[12:57] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> yes thats my .rar file i extract it or i burn it directly on my cd
[12:58] <cpk2> Skalord: are you sure its a rar?
[12:58] <Skalord> yes
[12:58] <cpk2> i dont think you can burn a .rar as an image...
[12:58] <Skalord> kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386 winRar archieve
[12:59] <RawSewage> How do you convert .vob files to xvid
[01:00] <vm> !codecs
[01:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:00] <RawSewage> is that for me
[01:02] <vm> in which repositiry is libxine-extracodecs ?
[01:03] <sybux> I'm looking for a web gallery generator. any1 know a good one ?
[01:03] <cpk2> !info libxine-extracodecs
[01:03] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[01:03] <fdoving> RawSewage: search for 'vob2avi' here http://www.tgunkel.de/it/software/doc/cmds_linux_unix.en
[01:03] <RawSewage> ty
[01:03] <Robbish> anyone got THE solution to the X700 problem?
[01:03] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> so what exactly have i got to burn to my cd? the complete rar file?
[01:04] <vm> cpk2 but you know in what repo this lib is?
[01:05] <abattoir> vm: its in multiverse
[01:05] <abattoir> component ~ repository
[01:05] <kiran> hi ppl
[01:06] <peak> TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: i recently received my free Kubuntu cd in the mail, which reacquainted me with linux, which i am grateful for, and would like to say "Thank You", to whomever cares to hear it ...
[01:06] <cpk2> you're welcome =P
[01:06] <cpk2> hope it installed ok
[01:07] <vm> cpk2 i checked the multiverse enable in agent but i do`nt see this lib
[01:07] <VincentMX> peak: yes, kubuntu pwns doesnt it?
[01:07] <VincentMX> and its all free
[01:07] <vm> cpk2 (after adept reload)
[01:07] <VincentMX> onnly i would like to get those ati drivers working
[01:07] <cpk2> vm: you need to fetch updates
[01:07] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> what exactly am i supposed to burn to the cd
[01:08] <cpk2> Skalord: as an iso9660
[01:08] <vm> cpk2 - i did
[01:08] <vm> cpk2 - there is no this lib
[01:08] <CarD> i would like depot for glibc 2.4 ... pleaseeeeeeeeee
[01:08] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> the full .rar file no?
[01:08] <CarD> (for install beryl)
[01:08] <dawson> hi guys, I am trying to install my belkin wireless adapter, and have got nowhere, have been following instructions over and over for a week, and have got no where, Any one know how this is done ?? please !!!
[01:11] <cpk2> dawson: in a desktop or laptop?
[01:13] <anurmi> please, how can I unlock the database adept uses?
[01:13] <vm> question: will i get libxine-extracodecs from this: http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zrzutekranu2rx6.jpg ? (i mean the enabled multiverse)
[01:13] <main2> anurmi: run 'sudo apt-get update' to see what is wrong
[01:14] <anurmi> it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:15] <fdoving> anurmi: then do as it says :)
[01:15] <peak> THANKS AGAIN FOR THE FREE KUBUNTU CD in the mail.....it is definatly appreciated....thanks a lot to whomever may have had to do with it / deserves a Thanks....
[01:17] <vm> after i fetch the updates from: http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zrzutekranu2rx6.jpg i don`t have libxine-extracodecs to download. what`s wrong?
[01:17] <abattoir> vm: you've enabled it for dapper-backports, enable it for dapper
[01:17] <tmdx120> identify 5percent
[01:17] <abattoir> vm: look at the distribution column
[01:19] <vm> abattoir - thanks
[01:19] <abattoir> :)
[01:19] <anurmi> main2, fdoving: thanks, seems like adding new users messed something up
[01:21] <vm> abattoir - works, is it sunny today near english channel>
[01:22] <vm> reset
[01:23] <tmdx120> hello all. Im having a problem getting my linksys router to work. Can anyone help?
[01:24] <anurmi> uhh, how can I press "accept" in adept updater when sun-jre asks to accept the license?
[01:24] <abattoir> anurmi: you can't, you'd have to do that through a terminal
[01:24] <anurmi> guess i have to do it the Konsole way
[01:24] <abattoir> yes
[01:24] <abattoir> anurmi: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[01:24] <cpk2> tmdx120: errr you might want to change your password if you just did what i think you did
[01:25] <tmdx120> cpk2: what do you mean?
[01:25] <cpk2> tmdx120: you said identify and then what i assumed was your password
[01:26] <abattoir> vm: it was drizzling, but it's getting 'sunnier' :)
[01:26] <vm> abattoir - nice to hear it
[01:27] <cfraz89> hey, new kde website :)
[01:27] <tmdx120> cpk: no I just said hello all. what showed up?
[01:27] <cfraz89> shmick :)
[01:27] <cpk2> i was wondering... has anyone set up a zip of all or *alot* of the wallpapers on kde-look.org?
[01:27] <abattoir> tmdx120: you tried to 'identify', but you did not do it properly, hence we all could see your password
[01:27] <cpk2> seems like that would be a cool thing to do
[01:28] <abattoir> tmdx120: so it's recommended that you change it immediately
[01:28] <tmdx120> cpk2: thanks
[01:29] <vm> where is (in repos) k3b mp3 plugin?
[01:29] <abattoir> it should be in multiverse
[01:29] <abattoir> !info libk3b2-mp3
[01:29] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[01:29] <tk> hmm
[01:29] <abattoir> aah, sorry, its in universe
[01:30] <vm> abattoir - ok, works
[01:30] <cpk2> no one has seen a huge zip of kde wallpapers from kde-look.org floating around? =\
[01:30] <cpk2> guess thats too much to hope for
[01:31] <tk> cpk2: there's a couple people that might have it, there's 2 people soulrider and Hawkwind that collect wallpapers :P
[01:31] <vm> i maybe see it on www.torrentz.com
[01:31] <vm> cpk2 ^
[01:32] <rambo3> try www.makeityourself.com
[01:34] <main2> how can i make my 'server' login automaticly (i got kubu on a workstation, and on my 'server')
[01:34] <main2> i remote desktop a lot with it from the client
[01:34] <main2> kdc* doesnt seem really stable either, is it better to use VNC?
[01:35] <main2> ?
[01:35] <tk> bout to try my.... 4th install CD today... wish me luck :(
[01:36] <cpk2> rambo3: i dont get it, are you trying to tell me to make it myself?
[01:37] <sisyphe>  /msg salut
[01:37] <Kubu> salut
[01:37] <sisyphe>  /msg arafat
[01:37] <sisyphe>  salut
[01:38] <sisyphe> arf
[01:39] <vm> is it possible to make 6.06 the newst stage of development of edgy?
[01:40] <sisyphe>  /msg Andrey-
[01:40] <sisyphe>  salut
[01:40] <sisyphe>  /msg ark[1] 
[01:40] <sisyphe>  salut
[01:40] <sisyphe>  salut
[01:40] <sisyphe>  salut
[01:41] <abattoir> sisyphe: ????
[01:41] <pibarnas> which packages do I have to install to put kubuntu in pt_BR?
[01:41] <fdoving> sisyphe: salut. it's enought now.
[01:41] <sisyphe> uiui
[01:41] <sisyphe> je test
[01:41] <sisyphe> dites moi
[01:41] <fdoving> !fr
[01:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:41] <sisyphe> pas moyen de mettre des remote sur kubunut ?
[01:41] <sisyphe> ok ^
[01:41] <Kubu> hes just polite
[01:42] <Kubu> !es
[01:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:43] <abattoir> pibarnas: i can only find pt...
[01:43] <abattoir> !br
[01:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:43] <rambo3> dont you :p
[01:44] <abattoir> pibarnas: ^^^might want to ask there, ppl there might definitely know
[01:44] <abattoir> *would
[01:44] <pibarnas> Hey, thank you a lot! I'll go there!
[01:44] <abattoir> :)
[01:47] <vm> what special would you guys do on 26th october?
[01:48] <vm> i think about buy fireworks
[01:48] <vm> and chamagne
[01:49] <rambo3> 26th ? celebrate independence of north korea from imerpialist countries
[01:49] <rambo3> is it edgy ?
[01:49] <vm> rambo3 - the premiere of edgy eft
[01:50] <vm> plus i`ll write artical for local newspaper (i write something for them from time to time)
[01:50] <rambo3> !ubuntu release party
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu release party - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <vm> next occasion will be far in spring :D
[01:52] <fabimm> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct  1 13:35:11 2006
[01:52] <fabimm> what's that ?
[01:52] <vm> fabimm - strange
[01:53] <rambo3> you system clock is off
[01:54] <fabimm> my system clock is off?
[01:54] <fabimm> my time is rigth , 12:54 ajusted by ntpd
[01:56] <rambo3> ok search google
[01:56] <vm> rambo - why do you think that fabimm`s clock is off?
[01:56] <rambo3> becouse thats the usual error
[01:56] <rambo3> i ment date not clock
[01:57] <fabimm> where can i see that?
[01:57] <rambo3> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[01:59] <vm> as poles says- live, not to die
[01:59] <ibrahim> hi , friends
[01:59] <tejinder> whats the proper way of upgrading from dapper to edgy? i edited sources.list and did apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade last night. messed up my whole system, had to reinstall :(
[02:00] <vacoy> hiho ppl, i'm a kubuntu/n00b and have a question
[02:00] <rambo3> that or sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:00] <ibrahim> how can  change  firefox  menus trasnlate Turkish ?
[02:01] <pibarnas> I tried to do so, to install the new kde and the packages were downloaded but not installed... how can I do that?
[02:01] <vm> for edgy theme: #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <cpk2> people cant wait just one more month to break their system? =P
[02:02] <abattoir> !upgrade
[02:02] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:02] <abattoir> tejinder: ^^^follow the links to edgy
[02:02] <rambo3> !info mozilla-firefox-locale-tr
[02:02] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox-locale-tr: Mozilla Firefox Turkish Language/Region Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 113 kB, installed size 284 kB
[02:03] <rambo3> !locales > ibrahim
[02:03] <tejinder> abattoir: which links?
[02:04] <abattoir> tejinder: look at ubotu's post
[02:04] <abattoir> tejinder: the one with the Upgrading,.....
[02:04] <abattoir> tejinder: or just directly go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[02:05] <fabimm> rambo3 : cool , everything's running normally now :) tks .
[02:05] <tejinder> abattoir: update-manager is not installed on kubuntu?
[02:06] <abattoir> tejinder: nope
[02:06] <tejinder> abattoir: which way is safe? i have already messed up with apt-get :(
[02:06] <abattoir> tejinder: either use the apt-get solution or adept
[02:06] <abattoir> tejinder: how did you 'mess up'?
[02:06] <abattoir> tejinder: technically both are the same
[02:07] <tejinder> abattoir: i edited sources.list and did dist-upgrade. i could'nt boot the system next day. the kernel booted but not kde
[02:07] <abattoir> did you have '
[02:08] <tejinder> abattoir: '?
[02:08] <abattoir> 'kubuntu-desktop' installed prior to the upgrade?
[02:08] <tejinder> i think its already there
[02:08] <tejinder> in default installation of dapper
[02:08] <tejinder> no?
[02:08] <Skrot> Sometimes its removed
[02:08] <rambo3> first knot didnt install video drivers so x would break , what knot did you use
[02:08] <Skrot> So if you're going to dist-upgrade, make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed.
[02:08] <abattoir> tejinder: yes, but some people remove it(or it gets removed when you remove other packages)
[02:09] <rambo3> tejinder, i think i had that error it was kdm that would stall , installed gdm and dpk-recofigured it
[02:10] <fabimm> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display , I get this warning when i try to run firefox and others gtk applications from terminal , but they run when i launch them from the menu. What's happening?
[02:10] <rambo3> that normal
[02:10] <oheard_> fabimm: are you trying to run that with sudo?
[02:10] <oheard_> Oh wait, fabimm, the programs still start though right?
[02:11] <tejinder> rambo3: you use gdm to boot kde?
[02:11] <rambo3> yes allways
[02:11] <rambo3> not boot exec
[02:11] <fabimm> oheard: no , it starts ok if launched by the menu , it doesn't start in terminal
[02:12] <rambo3> try exec firefox
[02:12] <tejinder> can anyone please send me sources.list of edgy. i just want to confirm ?
[02:12] <fabimm> same warning , not launched
[02:13] <oheard_> fabimm: are you trying to do it as root or via sudo?
[02:14] <oheard_> fabimm: if you don't need to see output you can run the programs via alt+f2.
[02:14] <fabimm> i'm trying with my normal user , i don't need to run firefox under root .
[02:15] <main2> is there anything better then KMIX?
[02:15] <oheard_> That is strange..
[02:15] <Skrot> main2: Better how?
[02:15] <main2> more advanced options
[02:16] <main2> better looking etc
[02:16] <main2> Skrot: im looking for alternatives
[02:16] <Skrot> Doubt it. Kmix shows just about the same stuff as alsamixer does
[02:16] <main2> Skrot: what i find weird is, that alsa does not allow the volume of induvidual speakers to be set
[02:16] <main2> im using a SB Live - GOLD, but it doesnt seem to be possible
[02:17] <main2> :-(( that sucks
[02:17] <Skrot> main2: Well, is that alsa/linux' fault or is it Creatives fault? Who makes the Creative-drivers for Windows? Microsoft or Creative?
[02:18] <main2> to answer your first question, it aint a fault i think
[02:18] <oheard_> main2: open kmix, right click the volume setting for which you want to change the speakers levels seperately, then choose "Split Channels". :-D
[02:18] <main2> its just something not implemented?
[02:19] <Skrot> main2: Probably. Or do as oheard_  said
[02:19] <rambo3> main2, are you sure about that, use Q and W , in alsamixer
[02:19] <main2> oheard_: that kicks ass dude =)
[02:19] <Jucato> hm.. who kicks what? :)
[02:19] <main2> Skrot: but to answer your second question, that is both..
[02:20] <main2> microsoft releases sb drivers with windows as well
[02:20] <CPU_Wizard> good afternoon people. how can i change the interface language of kubuntu?
[02:20] <oheard_> Afternoon CPU_Wizard. :-)
[02:20] <Skrot> main2: Yeah, but those drivers are proably also made by Creative
[02:20] <main2> i think ur right yes =)
[02:21] <Skrot> My point is, though it didn't quite apply to your problem; if $hardware doesnt work in linux, and $vendor doesnt support linux, complain to $vendor :P
[02:21] <oheard_> CPU_Wizard: K menu -> System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Country/Region & Language.
[02:21] <oheard_> :-D
[02:22] <CPU_Wizard> thank you oheard_!!! it works!!!
[02:24] <Wikipedia-Gast92> why
[02:24] <CPU_Wizard> cu later people! have a nice day! thank you for the help :)
[02:24] <Wikipedia-Gast92> why
[02:25] <StonedDragon>  (^)
[02:25] <Wikipedia-Gast92> why
[02:25] <tk> soulrider: you still around?
[02:25] <Wikipedia-Gast92> why
[02:26] <Tm_T> Wikipedia-Gast92: stop that
[02:26] <Wikipedia-Gast92> and you?
[02:27] <tk> awww, you should but put "but why?" :P
[02:27] <Tm_T> Riddell: bah, just when I was doing that
[02:27] <Tm_T> "why? because I can"
[02:27] <StonedDragon> why that?
[02:27] <tk> wow, ubuntu has changed since I last installed it
[02:27] <Tm_T> coffee or something, must wake up ->
[02:28] <tk> which wasnt tha tlong ago
[02:28] <StonedDragon> tk: yes, 6.06.1 is a blast
[02:28] <Skrot> Hi. If I want to load a driver with certain options, where do I configure that in kubutnu?
[02:28] <StonedDragon> it worked flawlessly out-of-the-box on my notebook, which means i saved me nerves and time
[02:28] <tk> StonedDragon: tell mea bou tit... the main reason I switched back to it was because it was less annoying with my bluetooth and now its the same as Kubuntu's :P
[02:29] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I'm here now
[02:29] <tk> wb Hawkwind
[02:29] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:29] <octan> Hi all. whos maintaining the package ksysv ?
[02:29] <tk> brb, rebooting to my HD now
[02:29] <Hawkwind> Hey there tk
[02:29] <StonedDragon> tk: yup, it "just works" which is very very cool for a free distribution
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: what was i checking into? i got the message from early this am you talking to someone
[02:29] <oheard_> octan: run aptitude show <package name> in konsole to find out that kind of info. :-)
[02:29] <octan> i think thers a small bug,, well rather forgot something. group the widgets or whatever
[02:29] <octan> http://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/screenshot/ksysv.png
[02:30] <octan> if ya see. it doesnt resize the small listviews
[02:30] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Wasn't you who mentioned getting my SoS repo into/onto easyubuntu or source-o-matic ?
[02:30] <octan> only the main widget
[02:31] <gnomefreak> source o matic i forgot to talk to seveas about it again ill ping him later
[02:31] <oheard_> You should see the developers about that one, or the maintainer email from aptitude is debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org.
[02:31] <oheard_> @ octan
[02:32] <octan> oheard_, did ya see the picture?
[02:33] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: No rush.  DaScreech asked me if it was listed and I basically just told him that you had mentioned trying to get it listed at one point
[02:33] <oheard_> octan: yes.
[02:33] <gnomefreak> k
[02:33] <main2> crimsun: any idea about vlc in the backport :')?
[02:35] <StonedDragon> f
[02:36] <High|ander> anyone using the i915 driver here?
[02:36] <High|ander> having problem to set 1280x800 mode
[02:37] <StonedDragon> highlander: is that a graphic card?
[02:37] <High|ander> StonedDragon: yes
[02:42] <StonedDragon> kopete-test (sorry)
[02:43] <StonedDragon> seems to work ok
[02:43] <zorglu_> i use 1024x768 on my i9165
[02:43] <zorglu_> but the screen is appears quite '16/9' :)
[02:43] <zorglu_> maybe i should try other resolution :)
[02:44] <zorglu_> High|ander: how do you do that ?
[02:44] <oheard_> zorglu_: K menu -> System Settings
[02:45] <zorglu_> oheard_: this one never worked for me
[02:45] <tk> Hawkwind: sorry, I just finished reinstalling linux (had to burn 4 different CD's because f'ing ISO got trashed apparently the first time (first 3 cds)
[02:45] <root_____>  
[02:45] <High|ander> i need the widescreen stuff :)
[02:45] <zorglu_> oheard_: some issue in the gui i guess
[02:45] <zorglu_> !ru
[02:45] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:46] <oheard_> zorglu_: you could try editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I would go through it with you but I have work to do, sorry.
[02:46] <zorglu_> High|ander: how do you do it
[02:46] <zorglu_> oheard_: ok, np
[02:46] <High|ander> zorglu_: i dont, it doesn't work
[02:47] <zorglu_> ok but what do you try which doesnt work
[02:48] <zorglu_> ?
[02:49] <zorglu_> High|ander: ok keep your secret then :)
[02:49] <soulrider> :O
[02:49] <soulrider> i left this on when i went to bed
[02:51] <tmdx120> identify 5percent
[02:51] <High|ander> zorglu_: trying to set mode to 1280x800
[02:51] <javittialves> HI
[02:51] <zorglu_> tmdx120: time to change your password, note that konversation makes it auomatically so this kind of thing wont happen in the future
[02:51] <oheard_> tmdx120: I would change your password if I was you.
[02:51] <oheard_> :-)
[02:56] <arcad3> how to rename a file_
[02:56] <tk> arcad3: mv file newFile
[02:56] <arcad3> thanks
[02:56] <tk> np
[02:56] <tk> and just FYI, copy is 'cp' :)
[02:56] <oheard_> arcad3: right click it in konqueror and choose "Rename" if you prefer the GUI. :-)
[02:56] <tk> delete 'rm' :)
[02:57] <tk> sure, take the easy way out :P
[02:59] <vm> wow, i just looked what are the wallpapers standardly with kubuntu 6.06 and i must say- good taste they are
[03:00] <oheard_> :-D
[03:00] <arcad3> haow can i mount read.only mz ntfs partitions like in ubuntu
[03:01] <oheard_> arcad3: mount -t ntfs <device> <mount point>
[03:02] <tk> arcad3: if you google this stuff, you find great resources from kubuntu/ubuntu as well
[03:02] <zorglu_> !ntfs
[03:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:04] <arcad3> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[03:10] <Arlington> somebody who can provide the adress to the non restricted universe and multiverse repositories?
[03:10] <zorglu_> !repo
[03:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:11] <Arlington> thanx zorglu. i notices that often in conversations in mainchatt the text is red when it is directed o me. how can i do that to for example you
[03:13] <Arlington> zorglu?!
[03:14] <zorglu_> yep you type my nick in the sentence and i will see it highlighted
[03:14] <zorglu_> if you type the begininf of the nick and then press "tab" it will be automatically completed
[03:14] <zorglu_> like "zor" and then tab will produce zorglu_
[03:15] <Arlington> aaah. okay. well a question i know how to add repositories but. the ones in the list in adept are restricted ones i wan't non restricted. zorglu you don't know the adress to the non restricted universe and multiverse?
[03:15] <fdoving> Arlington: take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:16] <Arlington> fdoving: i looked at that one but no adresses in that document...
[03:18] <Arlington> i'am trying to add the libxine extra codecs
[03:18] <Arlington> zorglu_: but they are in thhe non restricted multiverse repositroie wich is not in the addable list of adept.
[03:18] <Hawkwind> !info libxine-extracodecs
[03:18] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[03:19] <Hawkwind> Arlington: That's in multiverse.  Just add that repo
[03:20] <Arlington> Hawkwind: yeah but when in adept the only one with multiverse that i can add is commented as "restricted"
[03:21] <Jucato> !multiverse
[03:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:21] <Jucato> Arlington: that guide could help you out ^^^^
[03:22] <zorglu_> Arlington: the point is you misunderstand what 'restricted' mean in this context
[03:22] <vm> i`ll lightscribe my cdr with kubuntu 6.10
[03:22] <zorglu_> and this is explained in the page
[03:22] <zorglu_> vm: what lightscribe mean ?
[03:22] <Arlington> i kown that restricted means that they are not license free.
[03:22] <ep> Somehow I lost colors in konsole file listings, etc.  How would one go about getting em back?
[03:22] <Arlington> but in that restricted multiverse repos. is not libxine extracodecs.
[03:23] <vm> zorglu - the burning (image, text etc.) on the upper side of cdr
[03:23] <Jucato> well, it's a bit more than that
[03:23] <vm> zorglu_ - the burning (image, text etc.) on the upper side of cdr
[03:23] <mikeraz> Hello, where can I get the kernel source for 2.6.15-27-386?  My system only shows src packages for 2.4.27
[03:23] <Jucato> Arlington: libxine-extracodecs is not in restricted. it's in multiverse
[03:23] <zorglu_> vm: dunno osrry
[03:23] <Arlington> yes i know but i try to add that but it's not in the list in adept. so how can i obtain the adress to the multiverse repos
[03:23] <Arlington> ?
[03:24] <zorglu_> Arlington: :)
[03:24] <zorglu_> it has been already answered several times :)
[03:24] <Arlington> well then i'am to stupid so understand.
[03:24] <Jucato> !multiverse
[03:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:25] <Jucato> Arlington: that one ^^^^
[03:26] <marcus_> lu
[03:26] <leio_> why can't i use "apt-get install sun-java5-jdk",but I can use "apt-get install sun-j2re1.5",are there any differeces?
[03:28] <leio_> any one could give some hints?thanks a lot!
[03:28] <Arlington> thanx for the help i'am just a to sloppy reader.
[03:29] <|Danielle|> Nace una nueva red IRC: irc.ubuntuzone.org . Para conectarte: irc.ubuntuzone.org puerto 6668
[03:29] <Arlington> i'am to stuck in the windows world i think where everything is "easy"
[03:29] <infornography> Can someone tell me what the graphical tool is to setup samba for file sharing in kubuntu? I can't find one on the menu but I'm told it's there
[03:29] <totalwormage> infornography: look in your 'kcontrol'
[03:30] <malkavian> hello, im looking for movie player which can display subtitles from txt files... any sugesstions?
[03:31] <arejaytee> hrmm what the fuck is wrong with firefox, gmail opens fine in konqueror but just tries to load forever in firefox
[03:31] <totalwormage> under 'internet & network' there's a samba butten :] 
[03:31] <tk> Arlington: if its that hard for you to add multi/universe to your setup, then go the route of Automatix or EasyUbuntu, they give you the option of leaving the extended sources.list in your /etc/apt dir when done
[03:31] <zorglu_> !language > arejaytee
[03:32] <leio_> anyone ever have problem with excuting "apt-get install sun-java5-jdk"? It always says can't find sun-java5-jdk,what's wrong?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> !info sun-java5-jdk
[03:33] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[03:33] <zorglu_> !java
[03:33] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:33] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[03:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:33] <Hobbsee> leio_: enable multiverse, see the above link
[03:33] <infornography> Thanks
[03:33] <Jucato> leio_: you have "multiverse" enabled?
[03:34] <leio_> i think i'v add multiverse in my sources.list,that's right?
[03:35] <tony_> good morning everyone.
[03:35] <zorglu_> leksa: yes
[03:35] <tony_> What is the best way to install MYSQL, PHP, APACHE at the same time
[03:35] <fdoving> !lamp
[03:35] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[03:41] <tk> you realize how crappy windows TCP/IP stack is when you try and talk on vonage + download at the same time, and then do the same thing in linux at 5 times the DL speed and talk just fine where windows you had to stop t he DL
[03:42] <totalwormage> hehe
[03:42] <tk> seriously... in windows 10Kb/sec and its crappy connection... in linux im getting 100-250Kb and talking fine
[03:42] <ep> IIRC, I installed sun's JRE however java -version outputs: gij (GNU libgcj)  2 questions:  (1) From the commandl line, how can I determine if the sun java package has or has not been installed?  (2) How do I make it the default?
[03:43] <BazziR> ep: use sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:43] <BazziR> (and --config jar)
[03:43] <BazziR> tk: that's what Vista will fix for windows :)
[03:43] <tk> BazziR: is that MS's latest claim?
[03:43] <BazziR> it's true
[03:44] <tk> gonna be one of those "prove it" things for me...
[03:44] <BazziR> the latest versions show significantly improved networking
[03:44] <BazziR> (though buggy, still)
[03:44] <octan> hi all
[03:45] <octan> when i do df in cli i see all mounted partitions.. but what is this one?
[03:45] <octan> lrm                    1030560     21540   1009020   3% /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/volatile
[03:46] <octan> i dont got /lib on a seperat partition afik everything is on / execpt my /home
[03:46] <ep> BazziR: on config jar:  fastjar instead of gcj jar?
[03:46] <octan> i guess its some tmpfs i guess ?
[03:46] <octan> of some sort
[03:48] <tk> volatile would make me think ramdisk
[03:48] <buz> ubuntu-base + kubuntu-desktop is entirely the same as kubuntu itself right?
[03:48] <vmw> how to change the lewt-down kde icon?
[03:48] <totalwormage> octan: wikipedia says its your 'local resource manager', whatever that may be ;] 
[03:48] <ep> BazziR:  nevermind after a quick google search I decided to chose fastjar over the default gcj-jar
[03:49] <buz> l-r-m is linux-restricted-modules around here
[03:50] <arcad3> how i update my kubuntu  from 5.01 to 6.10??
[03:50] <fdoving> !upgrade
[03:50] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:50] <ep> Next question:  I installed xbuntu desktop and now I'm using gdm instead of kdm.  How do I get kdm back.  Can I use sudo update-alternatves again?
[03:51] <fdoving> ep: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm'
[03:53] <vmw> how to change the lewt-down kde icon?
[03:53] <cox377_> does anyone know what the command would be to bring down my modem and then bring it back up again
[03:54] <cfraz89> cox377_: sudo ifdown eth0 and sudo ifup eth0 is for your network card
[03:55] <cox377_> cfraz89: it's a USB modem
[03:56] <cfraz89> oh...
[03:56] <buz> uhm unplug it?
[03:56] <cox377_> buz: is that suggestion to me?
[03:56] <buz> cox377_: yes, that's the stupid but easy way ;)
[03:57] <cox377_> buz: i actually run smoothwall as my router and it's all hidden under the floor. The connection goes down sometimes and i wanna beable to restart the modem without having to restart the smootwall
[03:57] <buz> is that a dsl or analog modem
[03:57] <ep> Somehow I lost "file colors" in konsole listings.  Is this a setting on the konsole menu or some bashrc setting.  How do I get em back?
[03:57] <Arlington> i have a usb printer how can i mount that in kubuntu?
[03:58] <vmw> how to change the lewt-down kde icon?
[03:58] <buz> Arlington: got to system settings -> printer
[03:58] <Arlington> yes
[03:58] <el_LlaneroSolita> algun espaol??? solucion ati radeon mobility x1400
[03:58] <buz> then click add printer
[03:58] <cox377_> buz: it's a USB DSL modem
[03:58] <buz> cox377_: it might be pppoe then
[03:58] <Arlington> aaah i can do it now :-)
[03:59] <cox377_> Ok cheers
[03:59] <Arlington> buz:  thanx
[03:59] <el_LlaneroSolita> solucion ati radeon mobility x1400
[03:59] <buz> but i have never used pppoe myself
[03:59] <el_LlaneroSolita> spanish
[04:00] <octan> when i make a init script and link it to rc2.d can i use a SXX larger than 100 ? or is 99 the bigest one
[04:00] <buz> omfg what kind of weird splash screen has ubuntu server
[04:00] <ep> Btw I lost the konsole colors after i did 2 things  installed xbuntu-desktop and added a path to the environment varibles via an /etc/profile edit.  However I commented out the edit, restarted and still no konsole colors.  So I don't think this is the problem.
[04:00] <octan> etc ln -s /etc/init.d/myfile /etc/rc2.d/S100myfile  ?
[04:01] <octan> is that ok?
[04:01] <Arlington> buz: can i find drivers somewhere if they aint in the list that kubuntu downloads?
[04:01] <buz> maybe
[04:01] <buz> try linuxprinting.org
[04:02] <buz> what printer is that
[04:02] <Arlington> a canon ip2200
[04:02] <Arlington> ip 4000 is in the list :-/
[04:02] <buz> try the ip4000
[04:02] <buz> maybe it works
[04:03] <Arlington> it didn't :-/
[04:03] <cox377_> Arlington: i tried with an IP1000 and gave up...
[04:03] <cox377_> there was some code about when i firt tried kubuntu but it was too complicated for me @ the time and i havent tried again since
[04:05] <Arlington> okay :-/
[04:05] <octan> hey
[04:06] <ep> Tip for the day:  I've found you HP DeskJet printer at the Goodwill Store (US second hand) for about $5 US.  These are listed 100% linux compatible on that  linux printer site. (forget the url)
[04:06] <Arlington> cox377_:  i advise u to go to linuxprinting.org they have solutions for your problem.
[04:07] <cox377_> Arlington: Nice one mate, i shall take a look
[04:07] <ep> I did this and sold the cannon in a gargage sale for a profit on 1$ US.  lol  Linux pays off.
[04:08] <|lostbyte|> Guys, WHere are the cool fonts ?
[04:08] <xwolf-> is there a way to "restart" a program's icon attribute? i changed it to another one, now the bouncing icon continues to bounce even after the program is fully loaded
[04:09] <Arlington> cox377_:  http://software.canon-europe.com you can get drivers here.
[04:09] <finster> hi
[04:09] <|lostbyte|> !fonts
[04:09] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[04:09] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[04:09] <cox377_> Arlington: nICE ONE mate?? have they added support for linux?
[04:10] <Arlington> cox377_: yes! there are linux specific drivers!
[04:10] <Arlington> just choose your printer in the dropdown for printers....
[04:10] <zblach> hey all
[04:10] <cox377_> Awsome
[04:11] <ep> xwolf, theres some seting in kinfocenter (or similar) that allows you to set the number of seconds on the bouncing icon.  I just stumbled onto that a couple of minutes ago.  Can't remember where its at exactly
[04:12] <cox377_> Arlington: it's not new as it was released last year, i couldnt have looked that hard but i',m sure i did
[04:12] <leio_> thanks for all the help
[04:12] <leio_> done!
[04:12] <dexter007> hi
[04:13] <xwolf-> i know wher it is, ep, but that's not the problem. you see, the bouncing icon for this program should disappear when the program finishes its loading, but it just keeps there until the 30 second bouncing timeout
[04:13] <Arlington> ooxh sorry :-(
[04:13] <dexter007> How commend download polish langaue pack ?
[04:13] <Arlington> what is the format for drivers in linux?
[04:14] <cox377_> Arlington: tar.gz
[04:16] <mikeraz_> Q about potential installation bug
[04:16] <Arlington> i get wrong driverformat when i try to add it :-(
[04:16] <ep> Ah I see. Very irritating for me is the faci I get that bouncing icon often when I lauch multible instances of firefox from the panel or menu icon.  However selecting "New Window" from the firefox  menu is instataneous.  Seems like This same instaneous behavior should happen on icon click also.
[04:17] <Dink> what are the varrun---/var/run, varlock---/var/lock, udev---/dev, devshm---/dev/shm, lrm---/lib/modules/* partitions ??
[04:17] <zblach> quick question. If I connect two computers via ethernet cable, how can I transfer files across/
[04:17] <xwolf-> ep it started to happen when i changed the original icon to some other one. i put the original icon again, but the boucing still continues
[04:17] <Dink> !varrun
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about varrun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <soulrider> does anyone here use a pppeo connection ?
[04:18] <xwolf-> zblach do both have linux installed?
[04:18] <soulrider> !pppoe
[04:18] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:18] <ep> That's weird! I can't help.  I'm fairly new.
[04:19] <mikeraz_> zblach - it is a rollover cable?
[04:19] <mikeraz_> and do you know how to staticly assign an ip address?
[04:20] <dexter007> Sorry. I not good speak in english. What name polsih lang pack ?
[04:20] <Dink> !pl
[04:20] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:20] <Arlington> through adept
[04:21] <soulrider> !es
[04:21] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:21] <Arlington> dexter007: through adept?
[04:21] <dexter007> sudo .... {name} <- what name....
[04:21] <vm> hi. how to disable first screen (you know- kubuntu logo, and loading xxx ok, starting yyy ok)?
[04:21] <zblach> mikeraz_: don't think so, but don't the newer ethernet cards support this feature anyways?
[04:21] <dexter007> thx...i go to #ubuntu-pl :D
[04:22] <vm> dexter - polnische jungen?
[04:23] <dexter007> yeap :P... kinder :D
[04:23] <vm> question: how to disable first screen (you know- kubuntu logo, and loading xxx ok, starting yyy ok)?
[04:23] <Dink> Anyone know what are the varrun---/var/run, varlock---/var/lock, udev---/dev, devshm---/dev/shm, lrm---/lib/modules/* partitions ??
[04:24] <Arlington> cox377_: have you tried turbo free?
[04:24] <Arlington> cox377_:  http://www.turboprint.de/english.html
[04:24] <Arlington> cox377_: www.turboprint.de
[04:25] <ubuntu> join #ubuntu-it
[04:26] <vm> question: how to disable first screen (you know- kubuntu logo, and loading xxx ok, starting yyy ok)?
[04:27] <cox377_> Arlington: hadnt seen it before, checkin it out now
[04:30] <xwolf-> vm try kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> splash screen
[04:30] <xwolf-> (rough translation from portuguese)
[04:32] <Kubu> !tk
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <vm> xwolf - thanks
[04:32] <Kubu> !th
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about th - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <Arlington> cox377_:  you got pm.
[04:33] <main2> im trying to install vncserver on kubuntu but it get 'vncserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[04:34] <main2> i do have the latest version of libstdc++/libc - these come with GCC, any ideas?
[04:36] <xwolf-> !dialup
[04:36] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:36] <xdemon> !xgl
[04:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:36] <xdemon> !aiglx
[04:36] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[04:36] <xdemon> heh
[04:37] <pussfeller> anyone tell me how i can get ubuntu to think I have amarok and quit trying to upgrade it for me...
[04:37] <xdemon> and how i can install it?
[04:37] <pussfeller> since i use svn
[04:37] <michael> Hello all, I'm having a problem activating my on-board ethernet card, a Via Rhine II.
[04:38] <Arlington> how do i do this:
[04:38] <Arlington> Installation: Extract the archive, change to the new created directory and start "./setup" (root login required):
[04:38] <Arlington> tar -xzf turboprint-1.94-4.tgz
[04:38] <Arlington> cd turboprint-1.94-4
[04:38] <Arlington> ./setup
[04:38] <Arlington> can someone explain for a neewbie.
[04:38] <xdemon> in konsole
[04:38] <michael> .tgz? Sounds slackware-y.
[04:38] <pussfeller> and you would probably want to do "sudo ./setup"
[04:38] <xdemon> im newbie too :) but know it :) console rulez
[04:39] <Arlington> yes but how do i get to the directory i'am supposed to be in?
[04:39] <pussfeller> you know what he means by 'konsole'?
[04:39] <Arlington> yes.
[04:39] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:39] <pussfeller> then after you untar the thing, type 'cd nameofdir'
[04:39] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/01-gabriel's_oboe_(from_the_mission).mp3
[04:39] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/02-la_tragedia_di_un_uomo_ridicolo.mp3
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/03-mercato.mp3
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/04-liricamente.mp3
[04:40] <Arlington> pussfeller: yes
[04:40] <pussfeller> or cd and then the first letter or 2 and then 'tab' button
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/05-i_gelsomini.mp3
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/06-antiga_palavra_(with_dulce_pontes).mp3
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/07-c'_era_una_volta_il_trenino.mp3
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/08-la_commozione_dell'_addio.mp3
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/09-i_figli_di_pan.mp3
[04:40] <main2> wow you are cool
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/10-family_of_the_poor_(from_city_of_joy).mp3
[04:40] <ep> Would a xubunu-desktop install destroy a bashrc file in my home directory?  "ls -a" doesn't show any *bashrc* files.  I've lost konsole colors for some reason.  I can't get figure out how to get em back.
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/11-guardians_of_the_clouds.mp3
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/12-teneramente_amore.mp3
[04:40] <main2> xmoron..
[04:40] <xdemon> file:///home/xdemon/Guardians/Enio_Morricone-Guardians_Of_The_Clouds-2006/13-liricamente_(solo).mp3
[04:40] <xdemon> oops
[04:40] <xdemon> sorry
[04:40] <xdemon> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables - WTF???
[04:40] <xdemon> after ./configure
[04:41] <Arlington> thanx not confident in linux yet... :-)
[04:41] <Tm_T> xdemon: please do not EVER do that again
[04:41] <pussfeller> its alright... i had to ask the same questions once :)
[04:41] <ep> Would a xubunu-desktop install destroy a bashrc file in my home directory?  "ls -a" doesn't show any *bashrc* files.  I've lost konsole colors for some reason.  I can't get figure out how to get em back.
[04:41] <xdemon> ok... its my klipper
[04:41] <buz> people rarely do that on purpose you know
[04:41] <xdemon> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables - what the ****?
[04:41] <xdemon> i install gcc!
[04:42] <Tm_T> buz: people do that on purpose also, you know ;(
[04:42] <pussfeller> ep ls .bash*
[04:42] <Arlington> cox377_:  did you get it to work?
[04:42] <buz> xdemon: install build-essential
[04:42] <ep> pussfeller: only lists .bash_history  What happened?
[04:43] <pussfeller> i dont know ep
[04:43] <ep> :-)
[04:43] <xdemon> ok... downloading... thx
[04:43] <xdemon> and i have problem with sound
[04:43] <pussfeller> does kubuntu add anything 'virtual' to an audio Cd when you view it in konqy?
[04:44] <buz> yes
[04:44] <xdemon> when i starting track in kaffeine, amarok, juk, track doesnt play
[04:44] <pussfeller> cause i have all these dirs marked, flac, ogg, etc
[04:44] <xdemon> simply skip
[04:44] <buz> just abouteverything you see in konqy is "virtual"
[04:44] <buz> its really a neat feature if you ask me
[04:44] <pussfeller> i mean, is that stuff in the CD, or from konqy?
[04:44] <buz> from kde$
[04:44] <ep> Ok I did two things.  I installed xbuntu-deskto and edited /etc/profile to add a path env variable  (i've since commented it out for testing)...
[04:45] <buz> audio cd dont usually show much if you look at them
[04:45] <buz> but you can use it
[04:45] <pussfeller> well buz its SLOW as heck to even pull the wavs off
[04:45] <buz> mhh
[04:45] <pussfeller> 45 minutes...
[04:45] <buz> was quite ok for me
[04:45] <buz> maybe dma is not active?
[04:45] <pussfeller> no, i checked
[04:46] <ep> anyways  What files should normally be there in my home directory and how might I get them back?
[04:46] <graft> there doesn't have to be anything in your home directory
[04:47] <graft> you might want a .bash_profile or a .bashrc or something
[04:47] <graft> but that's your choice
[04:47] <graft> everything else (like kde directories) should create themselves
[04:47] <pussfeller> ep, you can make a new user, then go into that dir and copy the bashrc over...
[04:48] <pussfeller> i ma pretty sure there is a default bashrc, right?
[04:48] <ep> I see, Seems like I recall seeing those files. I can't believe I accidently erased them.  I guess anythings possible :(
[04:48] <graft> yeah, it/s /etc/skel/.bashrc
[04:48] <graft> you can just copy that
[04:48] <graft> ep, try ls -al first
[04:48] <ep> graft: will that get my konsole colors back?
[04:48] <pussfeller> then sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~
[04:49] <graft> no, don't sudo it
[04:49] <graft> you don't want root to own your .bashrc
[04:49] <pussfeller> heh
[04:49] <pussfeller> yer right
[04:49] <graft> ep, yah that'll get em back
[04:49] <pussfeller> he wouldnt need to be root just to read it
[04:49] <blag> Need ideas of new nick :) /q me please!
[04:50] <Arlington> what is a file with extension .rpm?
[04:50] <pussfeller> so im getting like 193KBS copying the cda/wav from an audio cd...
[04:50] <zorglu_> q. i got 2 laptops on a lan, i would like them to share some file directories, what is the easiest way to set this up ?
[04:50] <ep> graft: "ls -al" only lists one *bash* file  ".bash_history"  I will copy per your suggestion, thanks
[04:50] <pussfeller> rpm is redhat/mandrake packaging system
[04:50] <Arlington> okay so i can unpack thoose files in some way?
[04:51] <pussfeller> zorglu_: it would depend on the OS of each...
[04:51] <zorglu_> pussfeller: kubuntu for both
[04:51] <graft> Arlington: what do you wanna unpack it for?
[04:51] <pussfeller> then, you would use nfs probably
[04:51] <blood> hi all... i have problem with gcc on kubuntu :/
[04:51] <zorglu_> pussfeller: ok is there some easy tools to set this up ?
[04:51] <Arlington> i downloaded a driver for my printer and try to install it.
[04:52] <Arlington> graft: pm
[04:52] <SlimG> Is there somewhere on the web i can find a list of deb packages that is installed by default when installing ubuntu or kubuntu dapper?
[04:52] <blood> when i try to do something with gcc i have msn "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus'"
[04:52] <pussfeller> zorglu_: in the control things, internet and network, file sharing
[04:52] <pussfeller> and then become admin
[04:52] <blood> i had install gcc with adept...
[04:53] <pussfeller> did you install "build-essentials"
[04:53] <Arlington> i don't know if i wanna unpack it. it was in a driver package for my prinnter i downloaded but i do not know wich filetype drivers come for in linux...
[04:53] <zorglu_> pussfeller: if i do, i only got a 'greyed' window, the options are available but all 'greyed'
[04:54] <blood> build-essentials? no...
[04:55] <zorglu_> pussfeller: oh just tried kdesu kcontrol and some new stuff appears. will try that. thanks
[04:55] <pussfeller> zorglu_: you have to 'maximize' the window, and at the bottom is 'administrator mode'
[04:55] <pussfeller> !build-essentials
[04:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:55] <zorglu_> pussfeller: yep and click on it -> give passwd -> provide only greyed window
[04:56] <xdemon> does anyone uses FUSE?
[04:56] <pussfeller> zorglu_: it sounds messed up for some reason, you will prob have to ask on mailing list, unless some one here knows, or search forum
[04:56] <zorglu_> pussfeller: ok
[04:56] <pussfeller> prob permissions thingee
[04:56] <Arlington> any body who can help me with driver installing?
[04:58] <xdemon> and me... NVIDIA geForce 6600(gigabyte)
[04:58] <xdemon> !nvidia
[04:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:59] <SlimG> Is there somewhere on the web i can find a list of deb packages that is installed by default when installing ubuntu or kubuntu dapper?
[05:00] <pussfeller> what kinda printer is it Arlington
[05:01] <pussfeller> no in the channel so others can read it
[05:01] <Arlington> pussfeller:  pm?
[05:01] <Arlington> okay. it's a canon pixma ip2200
[05:02] <ubuntu> hay
[05:02] <Arlington> i downloaded the linux drivers from their site.
[05:02] <Arlington> because linuxprinting.org suggested it
[05:04] <ep> Ok, I copied all the hidden bash config files to my home directory.  Next, how do I use em?  "ctrl-alt-backspace"  to end session or is there something better?
[05:04] <pussfeller> arlington https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanonPixmaIP4200
[05:04] <Arlington> okay!
[05:05] <Arlington> pussfeller: thanx
[05:05] <pussfeller> np
[05:06] <Arlington> i was on the right track then did download alien to convert the pakages :-)
[05:06] <ep> pussfeller: end session to launch the new bash settings?
[05:06] <pussfeller> probably ep
[05:06] <ep> brb
[05:06] <pussfeller> theres a command to do it, but i cant remember what it is
[05:08] <mark_> can anyone help with no sound from soundcard, just a quite buzz and keypresses can be heard please?
[05:10] <Arlington> pussfeller:  can you send that adress again my Xserver collapsed...
[05:11] <vm> is there need do install java on 6.06?
[05:12] <ep> graft: thanks for the help. I have konsole colors now.  Grr, however if I do "sudo ls" then no konsole colors :(  This leads me to belive that the xbunutu-desktop install did more than I expected.  I hope I can fix everything.
[05:13] <ep> Hence: the obvious question:  How do I now get konsole colors as  root?
[05:13] <Arlington> pussfeller?!
[05:14] <pussfeller> ?
[05:14] <pussfeller> sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /root
[05:15] <Arlington> could you provide that adress again about the printer my system hung up.
[05:15] <pussfeller> arlington https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanonPixmaIP4200
[05:15] <Arlington> thanx
[05:15] <ile> hi, while using Skype, most of the times I get the message "Problem with sound device" when I try to call somebody, Very rarely I can call without a problem and works perfectly. But that's very rarely. Has anyone else faced with this problem and can anyone help me?
[05:16] <soulrider> ahhhhh!!!! i need some networking help! >.<
[05:18] <ep> pussfeller: I'm  trying to learn CLI, to copy all three config files, use: "sudo cp /etc/skel/.bash* /root"
[05:19] <pussfeller> yep
[05:19] <ep> thanks
[05:19] <t0taln00b> there's a kubuntu installer bug :(
[05:20] <pussfeller> ile: skype uses on older way of handling sound on linux, and so, the sound card gets 'blocked' when another application is recently making a sound
[05:20] <pussfeller> so far, they refuse to work on it, i think
[05:20] <pussfeller> flahs is the same way, but they are fixing it even as wee speak, for flash 9
[05:21] <ile> pussfeller: so we just have to wait
[05:21] <t0taln00b> when i get to the point of partitioning to resize and use freed space it just sits there doing nothing
[05:22] <t0taln00b> can someone explain me what's happening?
[05:22] <ile> pussfeller: thank you
[05:22] <ep> Did the copy. I guess I should of checked to make sure I wasn't clobbering any existing files of the same name first :-(  Does the default kubuntu install put those files in /root
[05:23] <windshear> i have a question about the kubuntu installer
[05:23] <windshear> my lan has no direct internet connection , i have to establish it using vpnc (cisco vpn)
[05:24] <windshear> if i try to install kubuntu the installer hangs trying to check update servers at 1 %
[05:24] <t0taln00b> guys did u try installing kubuntu edgy beta using desktop cd?
[05:24] <windshear> there is no possibility to continue the setup
[05:26] <windshear> the only workaround i found is to pull the network cable before starting the live cd
[05:26] <windshear> then the installer says simply "could not connect to update server" and continues
[05:27] <c43tv> ciao a tutti
[05:27] <t0taln00b> @windshear:are u installing kubuntu dapper or edgy?
[05:27] <windshear> dapper 6.06
[05:29] <t0taln00b> there's probably still many bugs in the installer coz i had the same problems on dapper
[05:29] <windshear> and i have to uncomment the update servers afterwards manually
[05:29] <soulrider> does anyone here have any networking knowledge? :P
[05:29] <windshear> ok actually its no real problem but took me some time to find out the workaround
[05:29] <t0taln00b> and now i have partitioning problems on edgy
[05:30] <ep> From my home directory as a me (normal user) I type "sudo ls" and it doesn't ask me for a password.
[05:30] <windshear> ep then you have already provided before
[05:30] <ep> I just logged in
[05:31] <ep> Maybe I provieded it at the login screen?
[05:32] <windshear> ep open a new shell and try again
[05:32] <ep> no password prompt
[05:33] <windshear> ep do you have root rights
[05:33] <ep> I hope not
[05:33] <windshear> type whoami
[05:33] <ep> whoami outpust my usr name
[05:33] <ep> outputs
[05:33] <windshear> hm
[05:34] <windshear> ep what version?
[05:34] <windshear> what kubuntu version?
[05:34] <ep> dapper
[05:34] <Arlington> anybody using turbo printings driver?
[05:34] <Arlington> and have lockup file?
[05:35] <ep> I don't really know exactly -- 6.06 fromt the desktop install disk
[05:35] <windshear> ep have you changed any rights, ...
[05:36] <ep> the only thing I did was install xbuntu desktop -- it erased all my bashrc files, so i put new ones in home and /root  I haven't chantged any rights
[05:37] <soulrider> does anyone knoe why i can load anything from the internet when i connect through pppoeconfig but not when i connect through anything else ?
[05:38] <soulrider> if i use ppoeconfig to connect its fine
[05:38] <soulrider> but if i use knet to connect
[05:38] <soulrider> it connects but nothing loads
[05:38] <windshear> ep hm, strange, donotknow, sorry cant help you, perhaps somebody else??
[05:39] <ep> maybe sudo will just do 'ls' is there somthing else I could try?
[05:40] <Arlington> anybody using the turboprint driver?
[05:42] <ep> Ok I'm going to end session come back on try sudo and see if it prompts me for a password?  It should correct?
[05:43] <ep> brb
[05:44] <Arlington> wich rar unpacker should i choose?
[05:46] <ep> Ok, to me this seems like a major security flaw -- I end session, log back in, fire up konsole, cd /usr/local type "sudo touch bullmanure"  and it creates the file.  Doesn't ask me for a password!  HELP
[05:47] <scion> hello all
[05:47] <mathieu> Hi
[05:47] <Arlington> how could i make ark unpack .rar files?
[05:48] <mathieu> I updated to edgy and now X wont start, it complains about not having "nv" driver. I thought they were part of the core X? what can I do?
[05:48] <scion> Arlington: unrar e filename.rar
[05:48] <mathieu> Arlington: apt-get install rar unrar
[05:48] <mathieu> I think their in multiverse
[05:49] <Arlington> thx
[05:49] <scion> when i play a dvd it plays fine and then at the menu i get "Audio output unavailable. Device is busy. ()"
[05:49] <scion> how do i get around this... anyone?
[05:49] <ep> Should I post on the forums?  sudo is useless
[05:53] <scion> any takers?
[05:53] <mathieu> scion: sorry.
[05:54] <mathieu> ok it seems i chose to update at a time when X is broken (again...)
[05:54] <scion> its cool
[05:55] <scion> i changed the audo settings from 5.1 to setero 2.1 and it works now
[05:55] <scion> time for 40 year old virign, laters
[05:58] <main2> my system needs, 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' i red on a forum that lib-compat contains it
[05:58] <main2> but its not in the repos, what should i do?
[06:03] <claydoh> ep: you might want to check if your user account is somehow part of the gropu "sudo", you can check/change from system settings
[06:03] <Andrey-> Anyone from Finland please? :)
[06:05] <ep> claydoh thanks i will do that in just a bit. Tied up right now.
[06:05] <tmdx120> identify 5percent
[06:05] <claydoh> its the only thing I can think of that would do that
[06:05] <claydoh> heh
[06:07] <abattoir> tmdx120: hi, werent you warned about 'identifying' earlier? ;)
[06:11] <abattoir> tmdx120: when you try to identify, (i guess) you are not doing it properly, you end up showing it publicly
[06:12] <abattoir> tmdx120: please correct that and change your password to prevent abuse
[06:14] <hyper> hiya, is someone using edgy in here?
[06:14] <abattoir> hyper: yup, lots of people... why?
[06:15] <hyper> abattoir: How can I install the KDE4 dev version?
[06:15] <john> hi guys... could someone help me with a kubuntu configuration problem ???
[06:15] <vm> do you know # about enemy territory?
[06:15] <abattoir> hyper: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[06:15] <vm> #enemyterritory
[06:15] <abattoir> john: what's the problem?
[06:15] <john> each time I try to configure a program or setting in kubuntu edgy, it crashes
[06:15] <hyper> abattoir: I added the repository but neither apt-get nor adept would let me install the kde3-dev version
[06:16] <hyper> I just complained about breaking things...
[06:16] <hyper> I --> It
[06:16] <abattoir> hyper: 3 or 4?
[06:16] <duncanyoyo1> hmm, anyone know how to glitch in SOCOM FTB?
[06:16] <hyper> abattoir: kde4
[06:16] <abattoir> hyper: could you pastebin the error message?
[06:16] <abattoir> !pastebin
[06:17] <hyper> abattoir: just installing kubuntu again in vmware... I'll pastebin it then
[06:17] <john> "SigSeg3 Signal 11" error I keep getting, no matter what program I try to configure, even system settings wont work
[06:17] <abattoir> hyper: ok
[06:17] <abattoir> ubotu: ping
[06:17] <duncanyoyo1> me/ bored
[06:17] <hyper> I needed the space today and deleted the vmware image ^^
[06:17] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[06:18] <john> er... crashed again using pull down box
[06:18] <duncanyoyo1> .:.|><|BORED|><|.:.
[06:19] <duncanyoyo1> ^(oo)>
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[06:19] <abattoir> duncanyoyo1: stop that, please
[06:19] <duncanyoyo1> ^(oo)^ why?
[06:19] <abattoir> duncanyoyo1: there are so many ways to contribute if you are bored ;)
[06:19] <duncanyoyo1> o sry
[06:20] <duncanyoyo1> well, i do not see any one asking questions
[06:20] <john> tis ok, I'll switch back to Gnome .. KDE seems to have too many problems atm... thx peeps
[06:20] <abattoir> !contribute
[06:20] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[06:20] <abattoir> duncanyoyo1: ^^^^ ;)
[06:20] <duncanyoyo1> un huh
[06:21] <ep> Ok my user name is mdr and per "system settings | users & groups"  Primary group: mdr Secondary group: udio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, admin
[06:22] <ep> is this abnormal?
[06:23] <duncanyoyo1> whats your problem?
[06:23] <duncanyoyo1> i mean whats wrong with your compy?
[06:23] <duncanyoyo1> and, yes mine doesn't say anything like that
[06:23] <ep> claydoh: Is that normal?
[06:25] <ep> Also GID is 1000
[06:30] <StonedDragon> photorec just saved my b***
[06:30] <stijn_> hi folks :)
[06:31] <arunkale> hey stijn_
[06:31] <BoOSter> phew just got gnome configured
[06:36] <claydoh> ep: your user looks correct, so you have found a bug it looks
[06:37] <arunkale> man, i can't use yahoo or photoshop on linux.. that's pissing me off
[06:38] <abattoir> arunkale: you can't use yahoo??? Photoshop 7 can be run under wine
[06:38] <abattoir> arunkale: have you tried gimp, gimpshop?
[06:38] <ep> claydoh, yes looks like after I'm logged in for some time that it will ask me for a password.  So apparently it's remembering the login password prompt.  I'm not so freaked out anymore:)
[06:38] <claydoh> Ill have to try and see if it does it for me
[06:39] <main2> how do i stop the VNC server on my kubuntu boxie
[06:39] <main2> ?
[06:39] <arunkale> abattoir: i dont have problems with gimp, gimpshop.. i am happy using them.. but the problem comes while collaborating with other designes
[06:39] <claydoh> after I finish updating my test box
[06:39] <arunkale> designers*
[06:39] <arunkale> and i need features of yahoo messenger such as photo sharing and all
[06:40] <abattoir> arunkale: doesnt gimp support psd?(if you need the sources)??? or doesnt it handle it well?
[06:41] <arunkale> abattoir: gimp rasterizes all text layers
[06:41] <Igor_V2> how i get the c libs, like stdio.h and conio.h...
[06:41] <Igor_V2> ???????
[06:42] <ep> Igor_V2: apt-get install build-essentials
[06:42] <abattoir> arunkale: have you considered running photoshop7 under wine? or do you specifically need CS(2) ?
[06:42] <ep> sudo apt-get i mean
[06:42] <arunkale> i need cs2
[06:42] <abattoir> and, 'build-essential' (no s at the end)
[06:42] <arunkale> coz i use some brushes, etc that i cant use on lower versions
[06:43] <coreymon77> cs2 wont work under wine
[06:43] <coreymon77> ive tried
[06:43] <ep> bad grammer from the ubuntu folks:)
[06:43] <StonedDragon> dies
[06:44] <BoOSter> can't you run windows in wine and start ps cs2 from there?
[06:45] <coreymon77> no
[06:45] <coreymon77> you would need something like vmware for that
[06:45] <Igor_V2> ep: thanks man
[06:46] <ep> no problem ;)
[06:46] <coreymon77> then install windoze as a vm
[06:46] <coreymon77> pain in the but
[06:46] <hyper> abattoir: so, kubuntu edgy is setup again, now I'm adding the repository for kde4
[06:49] <Igor_V2> ep: i don't have 'build-essentials' in my apt
[06:49] <Igor_V2> :T
[06:49] <ep> Igor_V2: "build-essential" no 's' typo by me
[06:50] <Igor_V2> ahh...
[06:50] <Igor_V2> ok
[06:50] <Igor_V2> perfect...thanks man
[06:50] <Igor_V2> :)
[06:52] <hyper> abattoir: http://www.phpfi.com/159133
[06:53] <nickste> lo all
[06:53] <nickste> does easyubuntu work with Kubuntu
[06:53] <arunkale> yeah
[06:53] <hyper> someone else got KDE4-dev installed on Edgy?
[06:57] <Nickste> When I right click and left click@ the same time, my clipboard is pasted. How do i turn this off?
[07:01] <abattoir> hyper: did you run apt-get update ?
[07:01] <Nickste> can kubuntu use ,deb files?
[07:01] <hyper> abattoir: yes
[07:01] <larson9999> is this what grub should look like if my freedos partition is /dev/hdd1 ? http://pastebin.com/797962
[07:02] <abattoir> Nickste: yes, but not every .deb file might work, it must be built for kubuntu/ubuntu
[07:02] <menace> Every time i start up GAIM or firefox or a few other programs they crash, how can i fix this?
[07:02] <hyper> abattoir: I run the install also from within KFR
[07:02] <hyper> KDE ^
[07:02] <abattoir> hyper: i just tried, and it works fine for me...
[07:03] <hyper> hmmm, strange
[07:03] <arunkale> yes
[07:03] <hyper> abattoir: might it be a vmware issue?
[07:03] <Nickste> abattoir: I'm trying to install EasyUbuntu, and it says "The utility is not in your PATH"
[07:04] <abattoir> hyper: hmm, could be, but i wonder how 'different' it'd be
[07:04] <abattoir> hyper: you could do a test run in your normal system to verify if you wish
[07:04] <abattoir> Nickste: how are you installing it?
[07:05] <hyper> abattoir: how to do a test run in my normal system?
[07:05] <Nickste> um... clicking on the .deb file
[07:05] <abattoir> Nickste: if you are installing from a deb, Rt. click ->Actions->Install Package
[07:05] <Nickste> aaahhh
[07:05] <Nickste> thanks
[07:06] <hyper> abattoir: you mean like creating a new partition and install kde edgy there and try there?
[07:06] <abattoir> hyper: aah, sorry, forgot that you were on dapper
[07:06] <abattoir> hyper: if you *really* want to try it, why not? ;)
[07:07] <hyper> abattoir: will that somehow *touch* my nice dapper? ^^
[07:07] <abattoir> hyper: if partitioning is done cleanly, i see no reason why it'd :)
[07:07] <hyper> abattoir: I'll try that then
[07:07] <hyper> I just have to get rid of the MP3s on my old ntfs drive ^^
[07:07] <hyper> then I can resize it and create a new partition
[07:08] <hyper> is there actually a limit on how many partitions a system can handle?
[07:08] <abattoir> hyper: yes, there can only be 4 primary partitions, but you can always create extended partitions ;)
[07:08] <hyper> yeah, I have a couple of extended partitions
[07:09] <hyper> abattoir: why can there only be 4 primary partitions? And what is the difference between those and extended ones?
[07:10] <anschel> primary partitions are stored on the MBR and there's only so much room
[07:10] <abattoir> hyper: it goes back to the day the PC was designed( 25+ yrs. ago)
[07:10] <anschel> Extended partitions can have logical partitions inside
[07:11] <abattoir> hyper: http://www.theeldergeek.com/hard_drives_01.htm might explain it a bit
[07:11] <hyper> oh well, I'll just have PartitionMagic do the job... that never failed me so far
[07:11] <hyper> thx for the link, I'llhave a look at it
[07:11] <abattoir> (even thought its windows specific)
[07:11] <abattoir> in terms of explanation, i.e
[07:12] <hyper> hey, until 2 weeks ago I haven't had a linux installed on my computer - so doesn't bother me if it's windows specific in terms of explanation
[07:13] <abattoir> or even http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/structPartitions-c.html
[07:13] <abattoir> hyper: aah, ok, are you planning to do some kde4 dev work or something?
[07:13] <hyper> abattoir: Nope, I'm actually interested in what it will be like :)
[07:14] <anschel> me too
[07:14] <hyper> abattoir: that's why I want to install it
[07:14] <rampage> i cant logg in adept packet manager
[07:14] <abattoir> hyper: well, it will pretty much look like 3.x
[07:14] <abattoir> hyper: w/ lots of crashes ;)
[07:14] <abattoir> rampage: any errors?
[07:14] <rampage> passward
[07:14] <hyper> abattoir: from what I read in the kde wiki there will be some major changes compared to 3.x
[07:14] <rampage> wrong
[07:14] <rampage> i entered root
[07:14] <rampage> pass
[07:14] <jaysef> guys is it simple enough to install kubuntu onto a 2nd ext3 partition (already have xp on ntfs and slackware on an ext3)
[07:15] <abattoir> hyper: yes, but still there is time left in the development cycle
[07:15] <anschel> rampage:there shouldn't be any root pass
[07:15] <rampage> but i created it
[07:15] <hyper> abattoir: so it's not worth having a look at it?
[07:15] <abattoir> hyper: this is just the first 'developer's release'
[07:15] <rampage> during installation
[07:15] <hyper> btw, does edgy support more/newer hardware?
[07:15] <abattoir> rampage: enter your user's password
[07:15] <anschel> rampage: are you sure?
[07:15] <rampage>  i did but it didnt work
[07:16] <anschel> rampage: it's quite hard to create a root pass during installation
[07:16] <rampage> it say conversation with su failed
[07:16] <anschel> rampage: try restarting
[07:16] <abattoir> hyper: if you just want to 'look' at it in terms of eye candy, you'd definitely be disappointed, esp. after all this effort ;)
[07:16] <anschel> rampage: that sometimes happens and I restart and it's fine
[07:16] <josh_> !mp3
[07:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:16] <josh_> !mp4
[07:16] <rampage> ok
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <abattoir> hyper: you can search for some screenshots online if you want
[07:16] <hyper> abattoir: well, by trying it I will also learn a few things :) so reason enough :)
[07:17] <abattoir> hyper: of course, try it all you want, I just don't want you to be 'disappointed'
[07:17] <hyper> I've learned so much about computers since I installed dapper :)
[07:17] <anschel> when does 6.10 come out?
[07:17] <abattoir> anschel: October end
[07:17] <abattoir> !schedule
[07:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:17] <hyper> anschel: oct. 28 I think
[07:18] <hyper> abattoir: you use krusader?
[07:18] <abattoir> hyper: no, konqueror
[07:18] <hyper> abattoir: too bad... :(
[07:19] <abattoir> hyper: why?
[07:19] <hyper> krusader is pretty much like total commander... just two things more would be great and I was wondering - in case you use it - whether they exist somehow and need to be activated
[07:20] <abattoir> hyper: sorry, i haven't found konq. lacking for any of my needs, so never used anything else :)
[07:21] <hyper> abattoir: I think a 2-pane file manager is really great :)
[07:21] <lopzided> anyone know how to make all links opened from xchat appear in firefox instead of konqueror?
[07:21] <abattoir> hyper: konq. can be a 2-pane file manager
[07:21] <hyper> one of the things I miss is that in total commander I can just enter dos commandi and press enter and they will be executed:  e.g. cd Folder
[07:21] <abattoir> hyper: or even 10 pane, for that matter :P
[07:21] <lopzided> i've set firefox to my default manager, and changed firefox to my default web browser in system settings/kde components...still not working
[07:21] <lopzided> i click a link, and konqueror opens :(
[07:21] <abattoir> lopzided: xchat has no internal settings/option?
[07:22] <lopzided> abattoir, not that i can find
[07:22] <Nickste> is there a flash player available for Kubuntu 64bit?
[07:22] <hyper> abattoir: and whne I try that in Krusader it doesn't work: I just can't type:   mkdir Folder and press enter
[07:22] <abattoir> hyper: trust me, open konq.
[07:22] <abattoir> lopzided: hmm, tried asking at #xchat or something?
[07:22] <hyper> abattoir: it's open
[07:22] <abattoir> Nickste: there is not 64-bit version of flash, but there are workarounds
[07:23] <lopzided> someone from ubuntu-offtopic says it's in settings/advanced/url handlers ... but this looks a bit confusing
[07:23] <arunkale> lopzided: is firefox your default browser?
[07:23] <abattoir> hyper: ok, click on the statusbar, and try Split view
[07:23] <rexbron> hello, when ever i run anything that requires 3d accel (glxgears for example) i get this error: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[07:23] <lopzided> arunkale, yup
[07:24] <abattoir> hyper: and press F8, you get a terminal ;)
[07:24] <octan> !crypto
[07:24] <hyper> abattoir: Hmmm, it looks like I have to have a closer look at konq
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crypto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <lopzided> in Xchat's URL handlers, it's currently set to this : !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)'
[07:24] <arunkale> lopzided: check in settings> configure xchat
[07:24] <octan> !cryptosetup
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cryptosetup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <octan> !cryptsetup
[07:24] <abattoir> hyper: konq. is just a hidden treasure chest ;)
[07:24] <ubotu> cryptsetup: configures encrypted block devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.0.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 226 kB, installed size 628 kB
[07:25] <hyper> abattoir: wow, again something learned :)
[07:25] <hyper> abattoir: thx
[07:25] <abattoir> :)
[07:25] <tony_> i installed ubuntu few times . but after installing it for last time, i relazied few programs were missing , such as php4, mysqlamin etc.. why
[07:26] <abattoir> tony_: you installed the server version?
[07:26] <tony_> no desktop
[07:26] <hyper> abattoir: the last two problems still reside with my webcam(s) and BT Headset :(
[07:26] <tony_> i used to have them in synaptic
[07:26] <zorglu_> they got bored, and went 'oh no, not once again, this time i pass' :)
[07:26] <abattoir> !webcam
[07:26] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:26] <tony_> i guess soo
[07:26] <abattoir> hyper: ^^^ tried that?
[07:27] <hyper> having a look at both of them
[07:27] <hyper> my old one works with Ekiga... at least I get a picture there
[07:27] <tony_> but now that i have resovled the network issu , they seems to gone haywire
[07:27] <hyper> but amsn refuses
[07:27] <abattoir> hyper: i'll get you a link for bluetooth headset
[07:28] <tony_> i do have php5, apach2, mysql5, but no mysqladmin
[07:28] <hyper> abattoir: that would rock :)
[07:28] <tony_> is that due to updates ????
[07:28] <Arlington> anyone got a keyfile for turboprint?
[07:28] <hyper> I'll have a look whether easycam helps with my old webcam :)
[07:28] <hyper> my gf is getting mad slowly ^^
[07:29] <tony_> Whats the best wirless network adapter that would work well with ubuntu ????
[07:29] <hyper> tony_: notebook or dekstop?
[07:29] <tony_> desktop
[07:30] <hyper> well, i got a linksys 54mbps and works fine - out of the box
[07:30] <tony_> any specific model ??
[07:30] <abattoir> hyper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSkype
[07:30] <t0taln00b> hey all
[07:30] <rampage> guys i cannot open adept
[07:30] <abattoir> hyper: look at PART2, and ignore the skype bits(unless you are using skype of course)
[07:30] <rampage> it says su returned with error
[07:31] <hyper> good question: how to find out what model it is without unplugging it  ^^
[07:31] <t0taln00b> i've just installed ubuntu dapper and have another problem. hope u help :)
[07:31] <abattoir> rampage: did you enter your user's password?
[07:31] <hyper> abattoir: well, skype would be great :)
[07:31] <rampage> i cant
[07:31] <rampage> it says
[07:31] <hyper> thx for the LInk, I'll have a look at it
[07:31] <rampage> su returned error
[07:31] <abattoir> hyper: then just look at those links, skype linux doesn't support video though
[07:31] <hyper> abattoir: I know, that's why I installed aMSN
[07:31] <hyper> ^^
[07:32] <abattoir> rampage: try entering sudo in a terminal, that might say what the error is specifically
[07:32] <abattoir> hyper: then speak in skype, watch in amsn ;)
[07:32] <hyper> abattoir: that's my intention :)
[07:32] <t0taln00b> i tried sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 and it mounts it fine. but when trying copy some files from it using sudo cp /mnt/sda1/*.mp3 /home/t0taln00b it just states that there's no such file or directory
[07:32] <hyper> however video for skype in linux would be nice
[07:33] <rampage>  but i am havin prb when i am tryin to access adept
[07:33] <rampage>  help ??
[07:34] <rampage> 
[07:34] <vm> hi. will .rpm work on kubuntu?
[07:35] <vm> !rpm
[07:35] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:35] <rampage>  help ????
[07:36] <Igor_V2> how i install the "XML::Parser" and "XML::XQL" ????
[07:36] <vm> !hml
[07:36] <intelikey> hello, anyone in here know anything about getting a generic js0 to work ?
[07:36] <vm> !xml
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <intelikey> or maybe i should ask, howto enable gameport ?
[07:37] <rampage>  i cant start adept ??
[07:38] <Igor_V2> how can i install the "XML::Parser" and "XML::XQL" ????
[07:38] <hyper> abattoir: I'm just looking at the partition links you sent - it says there can be up to 4 primary partitions per disk.... so as I have 3 disks I can have 12 primary partitions?
[07:38] <tony_> WHATS  a good graphica FTP program for linux
[07:40] <crazy_penguin> Good night everyone!
[07:40] <fdoving> Igor_V2: are those perl modules?
[07:40] <tony_> bye crazy
[07:41] <fdoving> Igor_V2: packagenames are: libxml-parser-perl and libxml-xql-perl
[07:41] <fdoving> !info libxml-parser-perl
[07:41] <ubotu> libxml-parser-perl: Perl module for parsing XML files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.34-4 (dapper), package size 285 kB, installed size 708 kB
[07:41] <fdoving> !info libxml-xql-perl
[07:41] <ubotu> libxml-xql-perl: Perl module for querying XML tree structures with XQL. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.68-4 (dapper), package size 151 kB, installed size 424 kB
[07:42] <fdoving> Igor_V2: you need to enable the universe repository to get libxml-xql-perl - do you need assistance to do that?
[07:43] <Igor_V2> fdoving: i've already done it...put multiverse isn't it ?
[07:43] <fdoving> Igor_V2: you don't need multiverse to get theese perl modules. one is in main and the other is in universe.
[07:43] <rampage> help ??
[07:44] <Igor_V2> fdoving: i'm getting the ' libxml-parser-perl'
[07:44] <fdoving> !ask > rampage
[07:44] <i4get> wow took alot of time b ut who was asking for the fire fox link opener for xchat?
[07:45] <rampage> yea
[07:45] <rampage> i cant log in adept
[07:45] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[07:45] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:45] <fdoving> rampage: try this ^^
[07:45] <rampage> ok
[07:47] <rampage> hey it didnt work
[07:47] <rampage> the output "rampage is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[07:47] <fdoving> rampage: ah.. so you're not an admin?
[07:47] <fdoving> rampage: is this the user you added during installation?
[07:47] <vm> how install java on kubuntu?
[07:47] <vm> !java
[07:47] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:47] <Igor_V2> fdoving: i've done...thanks man
[07:47] <fdoving> Igor_V2: you're welcome :)
[07:48] <intelikey>        anyone in here know anything about getting a generic js0 to work ?  or maybe i should be asking, howto enable a gameport on the sound card ?     anyone ?
[07:48] <Igor_V2> fdoving: :D
[07:48] <rampage> now it say
[07:48] <rampage> su returned with error
[07:48] <rampage> !!!
[07:48] <gertjan_> Hello, I have a creative soundcard but kubuntu does not recognize it! How to fix please?
[07:49] <rampage> any way to reinstall adept ???
[07:49] <rampage> to fix it
[07:49] <vm> i love kubuntu
[07:49] <fdoving> intelikey: check this out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55173
[07:49] <intelikey> gertjan_ something along the line of   sudo modprobe snd-sb
[07:50] <intelikey> fdoving looking   ty
[07:50] <rampage> help ....
[07:50] <gertjan_> thanks, i'll try.. one moment...
[07:50] <fdoving> rampage: you're not in the admin group. become a user that is in the group and try from there.
[07:50] <rampage> i did it
[07:50] <rampage> by gaining
[07:51] <Shift> yay!
[07:51] <rampage> root access
[07:51] <rampage> now it say that
[07:51] <Igor_V2> fdoving: do you know what is 'libpng' , i have to install it too
[07:51] <rampage> su returned with error
[07:51] <i4get> ok i cant remember what to install for c compiler..
[07:51] <infbliss> hi all, i messed up the /etc/sudoers file. how can i save myself
[07:52] <fdoving> Igor_V2: try libpng3-dev or libpng12-dev
[07:52] <fdoving> i4get: build-essential is the package name.
[07:52] <i4get> ty
[07:52] <rampage> any ideas ??
[07:52] <abattoir> hybrid: i'd say so, yes
[07:52] <fdoving> infbliss: reboot to recovery mode, and fix it. next time you edit it use the 'visudo' command.
[07:52] <intelikey> gertjan_   there is (or was) a pretty good wiki page on sound issues   maybe    /msg ubotu sound
[07:53] <vm> LjL
[07:53] <vm> abattoir - do you have website?
[07:53] <digivore> I always seem to have alot of web browser windows open, is there a good browser that is small and doesn't use much memory?
[07:54] <fdoving> digivore: konqueror.
[07:54] <Shift> =D
[07:54] <abattoir> vm: huh? why do you ask?
[07:54] <tony_> in which order should i install PHP , MYSQL,APACHE .or is not matter ?
[07:54] <fdoving> tony_: doesn't matter.
[07:54] <tony_> thanks
[07:54] <digivore> fdoving: i'm using firefox now, thought it wasn't bad either, but seems to be slowing me down.  konqueror is better?
[07:55] <fdoving> !lamp > tony_
[07:55] <vm> abattoir - i`m interested
[07:55] <fdoving> digivore: i find my self using konqueror more than opera and firefox.
[07:55] <rampage> !!! help ^_^
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ^_^ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <fdoving> digivore: if you haven't tried opera, you could give it a try.
[07:55] <i4get> ok to add Fire Fox to the xchat url handler goto settings advanced url handlers and add a new handler I called mine like opera Open with Firefox then the command is !firefox %s
[07:56] <gertjan_> what do you mean with  /msg ubotu sound
[07:56] <rampage> my adept is not opening
[07:56] <abattoir> vm: well, it depends on what you mean by a 'website' and why you ask :P
[07:56] <rampage> plz help
[07:57] <Raul12> help
[07:57] <vmw> abattoir - site about your interests etc.
[07:57] <abattoir> vmw: aah, no you'll find next to nothing about me :)
[07:57] <abattoir> (on the internet, i mean)
[07:58] <fdoving> Raul12: I told you to login as the user you added during installation. Your current user is not allowed to run administrative tasks.
[07:58] <menace> When i open certain programs they suddenly close, is there a way to fix this?
[07:59] <vmw> hm, my java installing stoped on 28%
[08:00] <Raul12> but i did it
[08:00] <vmw> what`s wrong?
[08:00] <menace> vmw, click "show details"
[08:00] <abattoir> vmw: are you installing in adept?
[08:00] <vmw> yes
[08:00] <fdoving> Raul12: can you run 'sudo id' without any error messages?
[08:00] <vmw> in adept
[08:00] <abattoir> vmw: dont
[08:00] <Potato> hello hello
[08:01] <abattoir> vmw: adept can't handle interactivity in a terminal(which is required to accept java's license)
[08:01] <abattoir> vmw: so run it in a konsole
[08:01] <Raul12> yup
[08:01] <Potato> anyone help with qt 4.0 install D:<
[08:01] <Raul12> i can
[08:01] <Raul12> run
[08:01] <fdoving> Raul12: what is the output of the command then?
[08:01] <Raul12> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[08:01] <Potato> O.O;;
[08:01] <vmw> abattori - but what with opened adept?
[08:01] <fdoving> Raul12: great :)
[08:02] <Raul12> so how can i open adept ^_^
[08:02] <fdoving> Raul12: now in the same konsole run: 'kdesu adept_manager'
[08:02] <menace> Does anyone know how to fix my problem?, when i open certain programs they suddenly close. Its driving me crazy
[08:02] <abattoir> vmw: close it
[08:02] <abattoir> vmw: and run 'sudo apt-get -f install' in a konsole
[08:02] <fdoving> menace: which programs? do you get error messages?
[08:02] <menace> no error message
[08:02] <menace> firefox when i try to download something
[08:02] <Raul12> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:02] <Raul12> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:02] <Raul12> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:02] <menace> and gaim when i try to open it
[08:03] <Raul12> help ??
[08:03] <menace> any ideas fdoving?
[08:03] <fdoving> Raul12: run: 'xhost local:'
[08:03] <Igor_V2> fdoving: perfect...but now i need the ' libgc (the Boehm Conservative Collector) 6.4+
[08:03] <fdoving> menace: no, it doesn't happen to KDE programs?
[08:03] <Raul12> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:03] <Raul12> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:03] <Raul12> xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"
[08:04] <Igor_V2> fdoving: :T
[08:04] <intelikey> fdoving hmmmm i reached the section on that page that says     " $ cd /etc/modprobe.d/
[08:04] <intelikey>  $ sudo nano alsa-base
[08:04] <fdoving> Igor_V2: please use 'http://packages.ubuntu.com' and search :)
[08:04] <menace> i'm not sure. is adept or amarok KDE?
[08:04] <vmw> abattori - can`t get block or something
[08:04] <larson9999> back in my mandriva days, the shutdown menu thingie had an option to restart and listed the different options from lilo so you could reboot to that partition without having to catch it during the reboot process. i don't have that on the menu with kubuntu.  is there a way to add that to them menu in kubuntu?
[08:04] <vmw> abattori - reload?
[08:04] <intelikey> i may need to install some alsa package ?
[08:04] <Igor_V2> fdoving: ok...thanks
[08:04] <fdoving> intelikey: i have no clue about the guide. just the first hit i found on google. sorry i can't help more.
[08:04] <Igor_V2> :)
[08:05] <vmw> abbatoir - i`ll reboot
[08:05] <david> larson9999: you've noticed the difference yourself. Ubuntu defaults to use Grub, rather than Lilo
[08:05] <fdoving> menace: yes,both are kde. they also randomly crash?
[08:05] <intelikey> cause file /etv/modprobe.d/alsa*  does not exist
[08:05] <intelikey> err etc/
[08:05] <menace> no, im running amarok right now, without errors
[08:05] <menace> it runs perfect
[08:05] <fdoving> intelikey: you can try to install the 'alsa-base' package.
[08:05] <menace> maybe uninstall gaim and firefox then re-install?
[08:05] <david> larson9999: they both have advantages, Lilo's is a lot easier to have a reboot to...
[08:05] <intelikey> k
[08:05] <fdoving> menace: you could try.
[08:05] <menace> ok
[08:05] <larson9999> david: i was wondering if it was a grub lilo thing.  but since so many people say grub is better, i figured you could do it with grub too.
[08:06] <Potato> o.o
[08:06] <mth`MAW> Hi there, starting knetworkmanager makes it die! So I started it from a terminal I got this stuff:
[08:06] <mth`MAW> http://nopaste.unixfreunde.de/show.php?id=1469
[08:06] <mth`MAW> Anybody any idea?
[08:06] <Potato> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:50:22: error: X11
[08:06] <Potato> /Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[08:06] <Potato> errors
[08:06] <Potato> -.-
[08:07] <david> larson9999: all it's theoretically take is a shell script to change the "Default" value in the menu.conf. question is, how would you get Windows to change it back
[08:07] <david> Grub is much better for disaster recovery than Lilo, hence bost people think it's better. like you can run Grub from a floppy if it all goes wrong, and still boot up your linux boxen
[08:07] <mth`MAW> btw: dapper drake, kde3.5.4., knetworkmanager 0.1
[08:07] <fdoving> Potato: you need to install the package 'libx11-dev'
[08:07] <Potato> oh
[08:08] <Potato> thanks
[08:08] <Potato> http://nopaste.unixfreunde.de/show.php?id=1470
[08:08] <Potato> theres the whole thing
[08:08] <douglas> Did the current edgy updates break Xorg?
[08:08] <Potato> just in case im missing something else
[08:08] <ExodusWFS> Hi guys
[08:08] <menace> Could anyone provide a link to a list of useful linux commands please?
[08:08] <larson9999> david in mandriva it didn't change the default it was like 'just for this reboot'.  so if i boot to another OS and then rebooted from that os, the default would boot.
[08:08] <abattoir> !cli
[08:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:09] <menace> thank you
[08:09] <abattoir> menace: ^^^ that's a good start
[08:09] <vmw> abbatoir - ok
[08:09] <intelikey> hmmm i suppose a restart is the only way to envoke the new alsa-base package recently installed...
[08:09] <ExodusWFS> Total noob here... Anyone else have the problem of stuff that is in the K Menu not appearing, even after saving with the menu editor?
[08:09] <fdoving> larson9999: post a 'wishlist' bug :)
[08:09] <abattoir> vmw: you didnt highlight my nick properly, so i missed your messages
[08:09] <abattoir> vmw: you didnt have to reboot
[08:09] <abattoir> vmw: ok, so it works now?
[08:09] <vmw> abattoir -
[08:09] <vmw> [19:55]  [Uwaga]  -NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else
[08:10] <vmw> [19:55]  [Uwaga]  -NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[08:10] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: you can try to run 'kbuildsycoca' from konsole.
[08:10] <vmw> [19:55]  [Uwaga]  -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized
[08:10] <vmw> [19:55]  *** rampage jest teraz znany jako Raul12.
[08:10] <david> larson9999: *shrug* your best bet would be to search through mandrake documentation on what it did, then copy it.
[08:10] <vmw> [19:56]  <Raul12> help
[08:10] <vmw> [19:56]  <vmw> abattoir - site about your interests etc.
[08:10] <Tm_T> :(
[08:10] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: No Database Availible
[08:10] <vmw> sorry, my mistake
[08:11] <larson9999> david fdoving: yeah, i'll dig some more.  i just figured i'd see if it was something people did regularly and someone here knew how.
[08:11] <menace> i un-installed firefox and gaim, then reinstalled, firefox is fixed, but now gaim doesnt show my friends on my buddy list
[08:11] <menace> and it wont close
[08:11] <david> larson9999: post about it when you're done.
[08:11] <vmw> abattoir - dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:11] <menace> gaim just crashed
[08:11] <menace> dang it
[08:11] <fdoving> vmw: do as it says 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:12] <Potato> man i love this easy debian install
[08:12] <harael> hello
[08:12] <Potato> do rpms work on kubuntu?
[08:12] <vmw> fdoving ok
[08:12] <intelikey> fdoving could you repost that link please
[08:12] <fdoving> Potato: short answer is 'no'.
[08:12] <Potato> >:(
[08:13] <Potato> D:<
[08:13] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: "No Database Availible" after trying kbuildsycoca in konsole
[08:13] <vmw> !rpm
[08:13] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:13] <vmw> Potato ^
[08:13] <harael> I need help please
[08:13] <fdoving> intelikey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55173
[08:13] <intelikey> this time i'll use wget <url>
[08:13] <intelikey> ty
[08:13] <fdoving> !ask > harael
[08:14] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: try to logout of KDE, and log back in. You should have a database. You didn't run it with sudo, did you? because you shouldn't.
[08:14] <menace> could automatix have caused these problems?
[08:14] <fdoving> menace: automatix can cause problems. yes.
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> menace: yep
[08:14] <menace> dang it
[08:14] <fdoving> !automatix > menace
[08:14] <dpt> how can i make myu pc beep with a command?
[08:14] <menace> im gonna reformat and reinstall linux
[08:14] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: No, I didn't, I just right click + Edit Menu in the K Menu
[08:14] <menace> start all over
[08:14] <menace> is that a good idea?
[08:14] <Potato> download download download TOO MANY DEPENDENCIES FOR JUST A GAME AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[08:15] <fdoving> !caps
[08:15] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:15] <Potato> ok
[08:15] <harael> I can't update my apt-get
[08:15] <Potato> !caps
[08:15] <menace> sudo apt-get update?
[08:15] <tony_> i need to copy some script to /var/www/ but i get access denied .. how shoud i resolve that
[08:15] <fdoving> harael: can you be more specific?
[08:15] <vmw> abattoir - now adept wann to update
[08:15] <Chousuke> tony_: copy it with sudo
[08:16] <tony_> i don't know much about shell, is there anyway i can set permission ?
[08:16] <abattoir> vmw: what?
[08:16] <menace> fdoving, would it be a good idea to reformat and reinstall kubuntu, seeing as how automatix has corrupted some of my programs?
[08:16] <Potato> is sudo like an all-in-one program?
[08:17] <fdoving> tony_: to get a 'admin-filemanager' you can do kmenu -> run command -> 'kdesu konqueror'
[08:17] <harael> yes sudo apt-get update (can't connect to server)
[08:17] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: Unless KDE is running in the background and I don't know about it, I tried logging out and back in, still says no database
[08:17] <fdoving> menace: if you can, without too much work on backups etc. i would recommend doing that.
[08:17] <menace> ok, i dont have many files on here anyways
[08:17] <menace> later.
[08:17] <vmw> abattoir - there is icon in tray
[08:18] <vmw> abattoir - adept wannts to update
[08:18] <abattoir> vmw: ok, then update, there might be updates available
[08:18] <fdoving> menace: the system can be fixed, but it'll probably take waaaay longer than just re-installing. especially if you want us to help you over irc.
[08:18] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: hmm.. strange.
[08:19] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: you can try 'kbuildsycoca --noincremental'
[08:19] <slow-motion> re
[08:19] <vmw> abattoir - in adept there sunjava5bin that has status upgradable
[08:20] <ExodusWFS> fdoving:  Still says no database available :(
[08:20] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: very strange. sounds like something isn't running..
[08:20] <abattoir> vmw: yes, then upgrade through konsole, never do it through adept
[08:21] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: It says "ksycoca running" then "Reusing existing ksycoca" and then the "No Database Available" error...
[08:21] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: hm.. i'll google a bit.. hang on.
[08:21] <vmw> abattoir - and java jre is not installed (in adept)
[08:21] <vmw> what do next?
[08:22] <abattoir> vmw: what do you need?
[08:22] <abattoir> vmw: if you need the Run time edition, install jre
[08:22] <tony_> i need to set someting in PHP.ini, but i get message that i have no permission .. is there any tutorials on setting permission with linux ?
[08:23] <oheard> tony_: run `man chmod` in the terminal.
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> tony_: have you tried using sudo
[08:23] <Potato> brb~
[08:24] <oheard> tony_: that will being up the chmod manual. :-)
[08:24] <vmw> abattoir - i`ve the java install file in hdd, what command use...?
[08:24] <tony_> i realized that . but how do you do all that with user and group section in system
[08:24] <ficelle_> hi, salut, ola, ....
[08:25] <abattoir> vmw: which one? from sun or the .deb?
[08:25] <ficelle_> rho c tout en francais... c booo
[08:25] <danish> hello all
[08:25] <ficelle_> hi
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> vmw: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre  <--- that what you are looking for?
[08:26] <harael> impossible de mettre  jour les dpots
[08:26] <oheard> Or you could use a free jre. :-)
[08:26] <danish> is there a way to update date and time from shell via internet b/c i pause my vmware image and next time i resume it i need to update time and date
[08:26] <oheard> danish: ntp.
[08:27] <ficelle_> mettre a jour les depots....
[08:27] <fdoving> danish: 'sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com'
[08:27] <fdoving> !fr > ficelle_
[08:27] <oheard> :-D
[08:28] <rampage> i cant still open adept
[08:28] <ficelle_> thnaks
[08:28] <danish> thanx guys
[08:28] <rampage> when i enter pass
[08:28] <rampage> it say
[08:28] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: ok, i get that message too now.. did any of the items in hte menu appear?
[08:28] <Arlington> hi i wonder if anybody know how to configure the side buttons of a logitech mouse?
[08:28] <rampage> conversation failed with su
[08:29] <fdoving> rampage: you shouldn't use 'su' you should use 'sudo'
[08:29] <harael> _ficell tu sais m'aider ?
[08:29] <ExodusWFS> Nope... It's weird, it only shows up to "Graphics" on the menu
[08:29] <rampage>  still i cant enter
[08:29] <rampage>  any help
[08:29] <fdoving> rampage: but you could use 'sudo id' from konsole?
[08:29] <rampage>  y
[08:30] <fdoving> rampage: in konsole, run 'xhost local:' then 'sudo adept_manager'
[08:30] <ficelle_> Harael > REjoins sur le canal kubuntu-fr
[08:30] <ficelle_> ce sera plus simple je pense :)
[08:30] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: rather: Nope... It's weird, it only shows up to "Graphics" on the menu
[08:30] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: ok, then i don't have more suggestions. you can try to ask in #kde or something.
[08:31] <rampage>  then
[08:31] <rampage> conversation with su failed
[08:31] <ficelle_> Harael?
[08:32] <rampage>  i can only enter root by typing su not sudo -i
[08:32] <harael> oui j'y suis
[08:32] <vmw> abattoir - how to check if java is properly installed?
[08:32] <rampage>  help
[08:32] <fdoving> rampage: ok, su to root. and run 'adduser yourusername admin'
[08:34] <rampage>  adduser: The group `admin' does not exist
[08:34] <fdoving> rampage: oh.. 'addgroup admin'
[08:35] <rampage>  then
[08:35] <fdoving> rampage: then try 'adduser yourusername admin' again.
[08:35] <rampage>  i did it
[08:35] <rampage>  it worked
[08:36] <rampage>  then ?
[08:36] <fdoving> now, go start adept from the menu.
[08:36] <rampage>  conversation with su failed
[08:37] <fdoving> rampage: is this a kubuntu installation?
[08:37] <rampage>  i can log into by console only but
[08:37] <rampage>  yup
[08:37] <kay> can somebody tell me what i have to do with .rpm files?
[08:38] <fdoving> rampage: what have you done to it? :)
[08:38] <rampage>  i cant access adept coze my pass wont work
[08:38] <fdoving> !rpm > kay
[08:38] <rampage>  nothin
[08:38] <fdoving> rampage: 'sudo id' works, right?
[08:38] <rampage>  installed then run and these error pops up
[08:38] <rampage> yup
[08:38] <rampage>  on console
[08:39] <rampage>  ??
[08:39] <fdoving> rampage: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116514
[08:40] <MattKrass> hey anyone in here got time to help a newbie?
[08:40] <kay> fdoving: tnak you
[08:40] <kay> fdoving: thank you*
[08:41] <fdoving> kay: you're welcome. :)
[08:41] <fdoving> !ask > mattkrass
[08:41] <kay> fdoving: :-)
[08:41] <MattKrass> lesson learned
[08:42] <MattKrass> alright here's whats happening
[08:42] <MattKrass> this morning I installed edgy eft kubuntu
[08:42] <MattKrass> and its working out of the box more or less, something I've grown to love about this distro, but for some reason
[08:42] <MattKrass> when I navigate to / in konqueror
[08:42] <MattKrass> I only see the /home and /media directories
[08:42] <fdoving> MattKrass: that's a new feature.
[08:42] <MattKrass> ..oh
[08:43] <fdoving> MattKrass: if you want to see everything. go to view -> show hidden files.
[08:43] <MattKrass> thank you
[08:43] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[08:43] <MattKrass> ok
[08:43] <MattKrass> one other thing
[08:43] <MattKrass> my install is running on an external usb drive
[08:44] <MattKrass> in dapper, on my desktop it would show me the icons for the FAT32 partition on there, as well as my computers internal hard drive partitions, and the cdrom
[08:44] <MattKrass> now it just shows the cdrom
[08:44] <MattKrass> also I had gnome in dapper, and kde now
[08:44] <MattKrass> and my / shows up as a "Removable USB Drive" icon on the desktop too
[08:44] <MattKrass> which is...new to me as well
[08:45] <MattKrass> how do I make it automount stuff to /media like it used to?
[08:45] <MattKrass> and not show my / as a removable media drive on the desktop?
[08:48] <fdoving> MattKrass: for the fat32 partitions, you can add them to /etc/pmount.allow (if the file doesn't exist, create it list one per line /dev/hda1 and so on.)
[08:48] <MattKrass> alright, what about non-fat32 partitions?
[08:49] <fdoving> you can add those too.
[08:49] <kay> alien
[08:49] <fdoving> that is, if they are not removable.
[08:49] <kay> sorry wrong window
[08:49] <fdoving> if they are removable, you don't need to add them.
[08:49] <frojnd> hw can I mount my DVD/CD writer ? on 6.10 kubuntu
[08:50] <OSUKid7> hey, how can I get the Windows key to bring up the K-menu?
[08:50] <kay> fdoving: can you help me again what do i now with .deb files? how can i install them?
[08:51] <fdoving> kay: isn't there a right click -> install ?
[08:51] <kay> fdoving: ok i test i guess i know what you mean
[08:51] <david> OSUKid7: in settings, open accesiblity
[08:51] <david> then goto Input actions
[08:52] <vmw> how to check if java is properly installed? my browser work as without java?
[08:53] <rampage>  how to save n quit vi
[08:53] <rampage> plz
[08:53] <rampage> command
[08:53] <fdoving> rampage: esc+ZZ, that is shift+z
[08:53] <fdoving> esc-(shift+z x 2)
[08:54] <rampage> how to save n quit
[08:54] <rampage> it says read only mode
[08:54] <fdoving> then you can't save.
[08:54] <fdoving> you can only quit.
[08:55] <kay> fdoving: thanks for the lessons!
[08:55] <frojnd> does anyone know how can I mount my cdrom ?
[08:55] <coreymon77> just put it in your cd drive
[08:56] <coreymon77> it should automount
[08:56] <OSUKid7> david: thanks... but I'm not finding it yet. after I'm in Input actions what do I do? I tried creating a new action but it doesn't seem to take just the win key.
[08:58] <luca89> qulcuno mi sa dire come registrarsi su irc
[08:59] <Shift> i can`t run adept .. it is telling me that "..another process using the packaging system database.." and then when i press OK, adept runs but i can`t install or remove any software. how can i make it run properly (I had tried to restart but it didn`t helpd..)?
[08:59] <fdoving> !it > luca89
[08:59] <fdoving> !adept crash fix > shift
[08:59] <fdoving> Shift: look at the message ubotu sendt you.
[09:00] <dhq> how do i check my xorg version
[09:00] <dhq> !xorg
[09:00] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:00] <fdoving> dhq: 'X -version'
[09:01] <Shift> yay it works ;)
[09:01] <dhq> fdoving: how do i upgrade to latest xorg
[09:02] <fdoving> dhq: you don't, you wait for edgy to be released.
[09:02] <MattKrass> sorry, modem hiccup
[09:02] <MattKrass> I have removable drives attached and they don't show up
[09:02] <dhq> fdoving: what version of x r u using
[09:02] <fdoving> dhq: 7.1.1
[09:02] <wildchild> hello
[09:03] <larson9999> computers rock!
[09:03] <dhq> fdoving: mine is 7.0.0
[09:03] <wildchild> can someon helo me with mounting cdrom (DVD/CD writer)
[09:03] <wildchild> help*
[09:03] <dhq> fdoving: how do i change it to 7.1.1
[09:03] <basse> wildchild: mount /media/cdrom
[09:03] <fdoving> dhq: you'll get 7.1.1 when you update to edgy once it's released the around 26th this month.
[09:04] <wildchild> basse it doesn't work:
[09:04] <larson9999> edgy is released this month?  oh goodie!
[09:04] <wildchild> mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[09:05] <dhq> fdoving: edgy comes with xgl and aiglx preinstalled
[09:05] <basse> wildchild: so what are you trying to do?
[09:05] <fdoving> wildchild: then it works, just tells you it's write protected .most cd-roms are.
[09:05] <wildchild> basse I am trying to mount it
[09:05] <zorglu_> mount -o ro to remove the message
[09:05] <fdoving> dhq: i doubt that. don't know really. don't like that kind of stuff. i prefer text :)
[09:05] <wildchild> so I can burn cd/dvds
[09:05] <basse> wildchild: you dont have to mount it to burn
[09:05] <basse> wildchild: burning application takes care of all that
[09:06] <ExodusWFS> I should probably get around to installing drivers for my graphics card huh...
[09:06] <dhq> !edgy
[09:06] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:06] <wildchild> well.. it says that cdrom isn't mounted and that I have to if I wanna burn cd
[09:06] <david> !schedule
[09:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:06] <ExodusWFS> Does Kubuntu even use Hardware Acceleration for the KDE?
[09:06] <basse> wildchild: what program you are using for burning?
[09:07] <wildchild> k3b
[09:07] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: if you driver supports it.
[09:07] <dhq> fdoving: the cd's of edgy will be freely availible on shipit i hope
[09:07] <basse> wildchild: are you burning from cd to another cd?  or from hd to empty cd?
[09:07] <wildchild> cd-cd
[09:07] <fdoving> dhq: sure.
[09:07] <wildchild> copy disc
[09:07] <basse> wildchild: ah, i see...
[09:07] <octan> i see a service callled LVM during boot up what is that stuff=
[09:07] <octan> ?
[09:07] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: This is a .run file... I don't even know how to execute it to install... (Total Linux noob..)
[09:08] <octan> logical virtual something?
[09:08] <wildchild> basse what do u suggest
[09:08] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: 'chmod +x file.run;./file.run'
[09:08] <octan> and do i need it ?
[09:08] <basse> wildchild: you are using the "copy cd" option in tool menu?
[09:08] <wildchild> basse yes
[09:09] <dhq> fdoving: is there a place where you get the free dvd of kubuntu
[09:09] <octan> i want to get rid of stuff i dont need on boot up and i think lvm is one of them.. am i guessing correct ?
[09:09] <infbliss> !kubuntu dvd
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <octan> !lvm
[09:09] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:09] <fdoving> dhq: you can download it, at cdimage.ubuntu.com / releases.ubuntu.com
[09:09] <basse> wildchild: its been ages since i did cd->cd so .. hmm.. it should just work, first you put the original there naturally, and after it's read and copied to hd, it asks for empty cd..
[09:09] <octan> hey i dont ride
[09:10] <basse> wildchild: if it says mount in readonly when you put the original in, sounds fine to me
[09:10] <dhq> fdoving: i dont have unlimited internet
[09:10] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: Should I do that in konsole or the app launcher?
[09:11] <ExodusWFS> And where does the file root from? /home/user/?
[09:11] <fdoving> dhq: linuxcd.org
[09:11] <freddy__> hi kubuntu fans
[09:11] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: konsole.
[09:12] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: Where does the location root from?  file:/// or /home/user
[09:12] <dhq> fdoving: what that about
[09:12] <wildchild> basse: after it reads original cd it request to mount cdrom :S
[09:12] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: whereever you keep the .run file.
[09:12] <octan> i dont need lvm when i dont raid ? correct?
[09:12] <wildchild> basse: but when I start new data project it works..
[09:13] <freddy__> I cannot get sound on my laptop to work on kubuntu edgy - its working on ubuntu hoary  - - what can I do ?
[09:13] <fdoving> dhq: you can buy the dvd from linuxcd.org at a reasonalby low price.
[09:13] <dhq> fdoving: thanx alot
[09:13] <infbliss> freddy__:which sound card
[09:14] <basse> wildchild: after it's done copying the original, it says that?
[09:14] <freddy__> infbliss:  Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller
[09:14] <Pingjockey> could someone explain to me the new kernel package scheme. I was under the impression that I could run the linux-686 package for my kernel (since I have a p3) but its marked as depreicated. ideas?
[09:14] <dhq> fdoving: how long will it take me to get the dvd
[09:14] <fdoving> dhq: no idea.
[09:15] <infbliss> freddy__:ac97 is broken. my god it has been working for ages
[09:15] <wildchild> basse: yes
[09:15] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: Konsole just breaks to a new line
[09:16] <jorma> how to install cc compiler?
[09:16] <ExodusWFS> do I have to be logged in a root or something?
[09:16] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: maybe. what is it you're tryiung to install?
[09:16] <infbliss> freddy__:did you try aumix
[09:16] <fdoving> jorma: install the 'build-essential' package.
[09:16] <freddy__> infbliss: it doesnt give errors - just no sound  - amarok plays fine - just nothing out of the spakers
[09:16] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: NVIDIA GeForce graphics drivers from the .run file I downloaded from thier website.
[09:17] <infbliss> freddy__:weird
[09:17] <fdoving> !nvidia > exoduswfs
[09:17] <freddy__> infbliss: aumix is not installed - alsamixer is - and I have tried all sorts of things with that  - to no avail
[09:17] <jorma> can I find build-essential package from SuSe linux?
[09:18] <freddy__> infbliss: there is apparently 2 soundcards
[09:18] <fdoving> jorma: from suse linux? i doubt that.
[09:18] <bele__> Hi, how do I reconfigure my X resolutions: Now I have just two choises (1400x1050 and 1280x1024) but I'd like to have smaller ones also
[09:18] <infbliss> freddy__:does those two show up in alsamixer
[09:18] <ExodusWFS> fdoving: Apparently it doesn't apply to me... I have a Geforce 7000 series card
[09:19] <freddy__> infbliss: no - only the Card: SAA7134                                                                
[09:19] <MattKrass> ok I still can't get my removable hard drives fat32 partitions to show up
[09:19] <freddy__> infbliss:  Chip: SAA7134 Mixer
[09:19] <infbliss> bele___:sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:19] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: ok, then i don't have any good suggestions.
[09:19] <jorma> how to install cc compiler to SuSe linux?
[09:19] <fdoving> ExodusWFS: try to google or search wiki.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org
[09:20] <freddy__> infbliss: in Kmix I get both
[09:20] <fdoving> jorma: i think you're in the wrong channel, try #suse
[09:20] <infbliss> freddy__:i had faced a similar problem when i had a microphone enabled webcam connected to my system
[09:20] <infbliss> freddy__:do you have anything like that] 
[09:20] <jorma> #suse
[09:20] <fdoving> jorma: /join #suse
[09:20] <freddy__> infbliss: yean actually there is a webcam installed in the screen ??
[09:21] <infbliss> freddy__:means??
[09:21] <MattKrass> I put them in pmount as directed by you guys earlier, and I even tried a full reboot
[09:21] <MattKrass> they just dont show unless I manually mount them
[09:22] <freddy__> infbliss: I have a laptop with a webcam and microphone build into the screen
[09:22] <infbliss> freddy__:yeah that may the problem. try switching the audio device in kmix
[09:23] <infbliss> freddy__:assuming that the devices it show are different
[09:23] <bele__> guess I found it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[09:24] <vmw> problemm: i installed java via console, but i still can`t run java in internet browser. in adept the java files are described as "installed". i rebooted system
[09:24] <infbliss> vmw: do you have java plugins installed
[09:25] <freddy__> infbliss: can you explain this a little bit more ?? I open kmix - then what do I do ?
[09:25] <infbliss> vmw:in your browser
[09:25] <MattKrass> alright thanks anyway I guess
[09:25] <ExodusWFS> lol... I forgot about this
[09:25] <ExodusWFS> I never set a root password...
[09:25] <vmw> infbliss - no
[09:25] <ExodusWFS> I dont even know it
[09:25] <MattKrass> if anyone has a solution, please PM me I'll be on the server for a bit
[09:25] <ExodusWFS> if it set one
[09:25] <ExodusWFS> It never asked me
[09:25] <infbliss> freddy___: can you open anything like preferences
[09:26] <infbliss> vmw:what browser you are using
[09:26] <vmw> infbliss - opera
[09:26] <mishkin> helllo
[09:26] <mishkin> can someone help me?
[09:26] <mishkin> its about knoda
[09:27] <infbliss> vmw: well in that case you might have to install java plugin for opera
[09:27] <vmw> infbliss - can i do it via adept?
[09:27] <dude0> Hello
[09:27] <infbliss> or copy the plugins in your java installation directory to .opera/plugins
[09:27] <dude0> How do I start kde?
[09:27] <infbliss> dude0:startkde
[09:27] <dude0> infbliss, TY
[09:27] <PiR> hi
[09:28] <mishkin> holita...
[09:28] <infbliss> vmw:i dont know much about adept
[09:28] <PiR> why can i see the free memory on my hard disk please ?
[09:28] <dhq> fdoving: i am using a laptop and my temprature in gkrellm alwayas shows 55 or more eventhough my lappy is ice cold ie i dont use it for a day my second question is i have 123 process running which i dont use half of them but still in use how do i diable them and my battery life is short where as on windows it gives me a goo backup time
[09:28] <mishkin> I cant install knoda
[09:29] <mishkin> I have ubuntu dapper drake
[09:29] <infbliss> vmw:do you find any directory called plugins in your java installation directory
[09:29] <vmw> infbliss - thanks for help
[09:29] <freddy__> infbliss: no preferences doesnt give anything
[09:30] <freddy__> infbliss: for the switching of soundcard
[09:30] <dhq> fdoving: i am using a laptop and my temprature in gkrellm alwayas shows 55 or more eventhough my lappy is ice cold ie i dont use it for a day my second question is i have 123 process running which i dont use half of them but still in use how do i diable them and my battery life is short where as on windows it gives me a good backup time
[09:30] <infbliss> freddy__:did you try other menus
[09:30] <dhq> sorry for repaste
[09:32] <fdoving> dhq: don't know for the temp. something wrong with the sensor or the sensor setup i guess. next check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 third. check that you have 'powernowd' installed and running..
[09:33] <mishkin> can someone help me?
[09:34] <mishkin> I cant install knoda
[09:34] <vmw> infbliss - i installed java via sudo apt-get
[09:35] <vmw> infbliss - so where are the plugins?
[09:35] <vmw> infbliss - i installed java via sudo apt-get
[09:35] <vmw> infbliss - so where are the plugins?
[09:35] <main2> 'the thing' behind the vnc server under kubuntu/kde crashes a lot
[09:36] <main2> is this noticed by more people?
[09:36] <main2> and or is there a solution maybe (i already installed vnc4server now, but the thing behind it is still crashing)
[09:37] <menace> !mp3
[09:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:38] <PiR> why can i see the free place in my HD ?
[09:38] <OSUKid7> how do I change the default ubuntu logon screen?
[09:38] <infbliss> vmw:can you see if java is installed in /usr
[09:39] <infbliss> OSUKid7:try gdmsetup
[09:39] <infbliss> OSUKid7:pr gdmthemetester
[09:39] <vmw> infbliss - i dont have java folder in /usr
[09:40] <infbliss> vmw: try this "locate java"
[09:41] <vmw> infbliss - /usr/share/java is
[09:42] <infbliss> vmw:now locate plugins directory inside /usr/share/java
[09:43] <infbliss> PiR:df --si in the command line
[09:43] <OSUKid7> infbliss: thanks... I guess now I need to find a more generic/customizable logon screen. I thought there was a way to customize that within the kde settings
[09:43] <infbliss> !kdm
[09:43] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[09:44] <infbliss> OSUKid7:you can look at http://kde-look.org
[09:44] <wildchild> hm
[09:45] <menace> I recently reformatted my linux harddrive and i cant remember what i did to the repositories to make it possible to get libxine-extracodecs among other programs, how could i change the repos to allow the downloading libxine and a lot more programs?
[09:45] <wildchild> does anyone know how to send a nudge by kopete ?
[09:45] <menace> chat>send nudge
[09:45] <infbliss> menace:easyubuntu is the best bet
[09:45] <menace> what is that?
[09:45] <infbliss> !EasyUbuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:46] <menace> im not messing with anything like that
[09:46] <menace> i had to reformat because of automatix
[09:47] <infbliss> menace:add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <infbliss> menace:deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[09:48] <menace> wouldnt that install easyubuntu?
[09:49] <menace> because i just installed easyubuntu
[09:49] <vmw> i`m looking for another linux distro that has mp3, java, flash etc. built-in (one installation- linux installation, and i have all, without the need of installing it myself). who knows the distro i`m looking for?
[09:49] <infbliss> menace:do you have the ubuntu archive listed in the apt list
[09:50] <infbliss> vmw:SuSE or linspire
[09:50] <menace> i dont know
[09:50] <menace> how could i check?
[09:50] <infbliss> menace:sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:50] <angasule> vmw: you could also download the packages and make a repository in a CD-ROM
[09:51] <SlimG> vmw: AFAIK Zenwalk is your choice
[09:51] <menace> ok now what inf?
[09:51] <infbliss> menace: see if this appears:deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[09:52] <menace> all of it but the universe multiverse part
[09:52] <AWOSDev> I need help with fonts.
[09:53] <infbliss> menace:just add this line
[09:53] <infbliss> menace:deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe main restricted multiverse
[09:53] <AWOSDev> I put the fonts in my /usr/share/fonts/truetype folder and my ~/.fonts, rebuilt the font cache 3x and still have no fonts
[09:53] <infbliss> menace:and try apt
[09:53] <menace> ok i put it in, but it doesnt give an option to save or anything
[09:54] <infbliss> menace:try ZZ
[09:54] <soulrider> uhm, can someone help me? i posted my message ont he forums but only 3 views in like 5 or 6 hours =/
[09:54] <soulrider> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269205
[09:55] <vmw> infbliss - or maybe ubuntu dvdrom version has built mp3 etc. support?
[09:56] <menace> my repos are messed up now
[09:56] <menace> wtf
[09:56] <oem> Hello
[09:56] <soulrider> why doesnt ubuntu include mp3 support? =/ i mean, everyones gonna add it later anyways
[09:56] <menace> ok i fixed it
[09:56] <oem> Spricht hier jemand deutsch ?
[09:57] <soulrider> !de
[09:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:57] <Kr4t05> soulrider: lt isnt' GPL. The codecs for MP3 and other formats are proprietary.
[09:57] <soulrider> ah ok
[09:57] <menace> wtf i cant paste deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe main restricted multiverse into it
[09:57] <Chousuke> mp3 will be free in two years!
[09:57] <soulrider> Kr4t05: any ideas for my problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269205
[09:57] <Kr4t05> Technically, if you live in the US, your subject to copy-right laws.
[09:58] <Kr4t05> But, if you're using Linux, your pretty much evading the RIAA to begin with.
[09:58] <soulrider> the RIAA sucks!
[09:58] <menace> omg im starting to hate linux
[09:58] <soulrider> menace:  whys that ?
[09:59] <soulrider> are you crazy?!
[09:59] <menace> because of the repos!
[09:59] <menace> its getting annoying
[09:59] <soulrider> no, man
[09:59] <menace> i had my linux awsome
[09:59] <soulrider> repos rule!
[09:59] <Kr4t05> soulrider: I dunno... I use a separate ADSL router.
[09:59] <menace> then automatix corrupted my linux
[09:59] <menace> so i had to reformat then reinstall
[09:59] <menace> now i have to redo all my repos
[09:59] <soulrider> Kr4t05: you dont have to dial ?
[09:59] <Chousuke> Hm
[09:59] <menace> but this time everything is dfferent
[09:59] <menace> sucks!
[09:59] <Chousuke> menace: that's why automatix is not recommended :P
[09:59] <Kr4t05> soulrider: Just buy a DSL modem or something.
[09:59] <menace> yea
[09:59] <soulrider> i have a dsl modem
[10:00] <menace> is easyubuntu better?
[10:00] <soulrider> maybe i didnt explain my problem ina clear way
[10:00] <Kr4t05> !source-o-matic > menace
[10:00] <menace> easy ubuntu is frozen now.
[10:00] <Kr4t05> soulrider: If you have an ADSL modem/router, you shouldn't have to dial-in. IIRC, ADSL is a continuous connection.
[10:00] <vmw> SlimG
[10:01] <vmw> can we make a 5 speak?
[10:01] <soulrider> yea
[10:01] <soulrider> well
[10:01] <soulrider> the thing is
[10:01] <soulrider> i canc onnect using pppoeconfig
[10:01] <soulrider> which is cool
[10:01] <soulrider> works great
[10:01] <soulrider> now, if i wanna connect using knet or rppppoek it connects
[10:01] <soulrider> but my apps wont work
[10:01] <Kr4t05> soulrider: You shouldn't have to use pppoeconfig...
[10:01] <soulrider> they act as if i wer online
[10:01] <soulrider> but if i do ifconfig i see its connected
[10:02] <soulrider> i mean, pon and poff etc
[10:02] <soulrider> im tyring to use knet, its for my dad actually
[10:02] <Kr4t05> All you should have to do is set if up to use DHCP and it should automatically detect and connect.
[10:02] <soulrider> i dont want him to have to go tot he conosle and type stuff
[10:02] <soulrider> how do i do that ?
[10:02] <Kr4t05> *Sigh*
[10:02] <soulrider> its using it already i think
[10:03] <slow-motion> n8
[10:03] <soulrider> im using rppppoek in my mahcine and never changed anything
[10:03] <malachi> hey someone please help me
[10:03] <Kr4t05> There is a lesson to be learned here. Unless the person is someone computer literate to begin with, do not introduce them to Linux, when they're over 35.
[10:03] <soulrider> malachi: whats your problem
[10:03] <soulrider> hes not computer illiterate
[10:03] <Kr4t05> I know, that's a piss-poor attitude, and I
[10:04] <soulrider> he can perfectly do pon dsl-provider
[10:04] <Kr4t05> am sorry
[10:04] <malachi> ok i have no clue how to use kubuntu....but i downloaded limewire...now how do i install it
[10:04] <Kr4t05> !frostwire
[10:04] <soulrider> but its easy if he can right click somewhere adn then click connect
[10:04] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:04] <Kr4t05> malachi: See above/
[10:04] <malachi> thank you
[10:05] <Nickste> does wine come with kubuntu?
[10:05] <Kr4t05> Nickste: no.
[10:05] <soulrider> nope
[10:05] <Kr4t05> !wine > Nickste
[10:06] <main2> any ideas how it can be that 'DRKonqi' crashes all the time when using remote desktop?
[10:06] <main2> (or vncviewer)
[10:06] <malachi> now where did that go
[10:06] <Nickste> thanks
[10:06] <soulrider> so, Kr4t05where cna i set it to use dhcp ?
[10:07] <malachi> where did the download file for frostwire goto?
[10:07] <malachi> and how do i install it
[10:07] <Kr4t05> soulrider: It should be under System Settings > Network
[10:07] <soulrider> you downlaoded the .deb file right ?
[10:07] <Kr4t05> Or something like that.
[10:08] <malachi> yes
[10:08] <soulrider> ok
[10:08] <soulrider> find the file
[10:08] <soulrider> right click it and look for install package
[10:08] <soulrider> its as simple as that :)
[10:08] <malachi> how do i find the file
[10:09] <Kr4t05> malachi: It should be in you Home folder
[10:09] <malachi> its not....all i have there is limewire
[10:09] <soulrider> uhm
[10:09] <soulrider> redownlaod then ;?
[10:10] <octan> hidden dir?
[10:10] <AWOSDev> Desktop?
[10:10] <main2> when im using 'desktop sharing', the server crashes a lot, any idea what can cause this?
[10:10] <GNUro> Hi all!
[10:11] <soulrider> brb
[10:11] <malachi> it opened a kate window and said it was binary now what
[10:11] <ExodusWFS> Is there any way I can move the contents of a folder up one directory?  All the contents that is
[10:11] <main2> malachi && soulrider can you use PM please, thanks :)
[10:11] <octan> main2, why dont you ssh with forward X instead =
[10:11] <octan> ?
[10:11] <main2> ExodusWFS: copy past?
[10:11] <ExodusWFS> Though shell.
[10:12] <main2> octan: mwa, i would like to use vnc server
[10:12] <main2> but this seems to use the same background stuff of KDE, i installed vnc4server
[10:12] <main2> and it works, but it crashes a *** lot
[10:13] <ExodusWFS> So, any way to mass move files up one directory in shell?
[10:13] <main2> ExodusWFS: us mv -R
[10:13] <main2> or use 'mc' midnight commander
[10:13] <octan> 'mc is nice
[10:13] <octan> i use it alot
[10:14] <main2> ^^
[10:14] <octan> :)
[10:14] <AWOSDev> I love mc :)
[10:14] <OSUKid7> what does the System Settings > Login Manager do? I keep changing things and the login screen still looks the same (what is set with gdmsetup)
[10:15] <ExodusWFS> Your not able to give yourself root access though KDE are you?
[10:15] <ExodusWFS> Or change privledges so, that, say I could extract something to /bin/ through KDE
[10:15] <Tm_T> OSUKid7: you need to disable login theme
[10:17] <octan> man adept is buggy
[10:17] <ExodusWFS> ;_;
[10:17] <ExodusWFS> I just need to extrac this god-forsaken tarball to bin =/
[10:17] <steveire> can I just delete a symlink or do i unlink it or what?
[10:18] <octan> sometimes when i install a app like java,, i wants me to hit enter, ok on some lisence,, apt-get and synaptic works fine but but not adept
[10:19] <ExodusWFS> How can i just extract the tarball directly to bin
[10:21] <OSUKid7> Tm_T: thanks. how do I remove different session options (GNOME) from the list without uninstalling gnome?
[10:21] <steveire> anyone here using kubuntu edgy? Can you go to / in konqueror and tell me what you see please?
[10:22] <Blissex> steveire: #Ubuntu+1
[10:22] <Blissex> OSUKid7: edit the display manager's config?
[10:22] <steveire> they're very quiet in there tonight. That or every one of them uses gnome
[10:23] <OSUKid7> Blissex: alright... can you give me a hint where that is?
[10:23] <menace> when i try to install a .deb package i get an error saying the status is locked, how can i fix this? ive tried kill all adept, kill all dpkg, but nothing helps
[10:23] <Blissex> OSUKid7: depends on the display manager you use...
[10:24] <jessebeau> I'm using Kubuntu Edgy...
[10:24] <ExodusWFS> is there any way I can just directly extract this tarball to bin?
[10:24] <OSUKid7> Blissex: well, I guess it's gdm... I just disabled the themed login manager
[10:25] <steveire> jessebeau: When you go to / in konqueror do you see /home and /media or do you see everything?
[10:25] <Blissex> OSUKid7: sorry no idea about GDM.
[10:25] <ExodusWFS> ;_;
[10:26] <jessebeau> Click on Vieuw en chose Show Hidden Files :-)
[10:27] <steveire> jessebeau: That sucks. Then when I go to /home I'm flooded with config files and directories. Bad feature.
[10:27] <jessebeau> Turn it back off then ;-)
[10:28] <jessebeau> Or remove /.hidden :-)
[10:28] <Blissex> steveire: it is very quiet here because everything works beautifully for most people :-)
[10:28] <malachi> ok im still lost here i cant find the frostwire files and have no clue how to do this
[10:29] <steveire> Thanks jessebeau.
[10:29] <jessebeau> :-)
[10:31] <steveire> I just did a sudo mv .hidden .hidden.bak in case I see the logic some day.
[10:32] <icheyne> I am looking to do a RAM upgrade, but I need to know *exactly* what kind of RAM I have in my PC. How can I find out?
[10:32] <malachi> how do i install an rpm file
[10:32] <icheyne> (without opening the box)
[10:32] <NeoSaki> malachi: get alien
[10:32] <NeoSaki> and rpm package
[10:32] <malachi> where do i get that at?
[10:34] <kyaneos> icheyne: see you motherboard webpage and motherboard specifications
[10:34] <kyaneos> i think
[10:34] <icheyne> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_.rpm_to_.deb_Converter_.28Alien.29
[10:34] <malachi> what program do i need to use to open the install files?
[10:34] <Shift> Hi, i have a problem with adept and the "add/remove". When I try to install something(not a specific program) I get this massege: "There was an erroe commiting changes. Possibly there eas a problem downloading some packeges or the commit would break packeges". i have no idie what`s the proble, yesterday it worked graet..
[10:34] <icheyne> kyaneos: thanks I'll have a look
[10:34] <icheyne> kyaneos: obvious really! doh!
[10:34] <kyaneos> icheyne: maybe there is a program to see it, but i do not know it
[10:34] <kyaneos> icheyne: when i upgraded my RAM, i did that
[10:35] <icheyne> kyaneos: thanks. There's a Windows tool at Crucial.com, but the mobo approach is better
[10:36] <kyaneos> icheyne: suerte
[10:36] <ExodusWFS> If I am trying to get Wine for Kubuntu... Which package should I use?
[10:37] <kai> hey guys! does anybody know where to disable the "NV" module?
[10:37] <menace> !mp3
[10:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:37] <kyaneos> icheyne: suerte = good look
[10:37] <kyaneos> :)
[10:37] <ExodusWFS> Doesn't help me for Wine...
[10:38] <icheyne> kyaneos: gracias amigo :o)
[10:38] <icheyne> I'm off thanks for the help
[10:38] <icheyne> bye
[10:38] <kai> hey guys! does anybody know where to disable the "NV" module?
[10:38] <ubuntu> hi guys pls help me, I tried to instal xgl and now I can-t open my ubuntu, look I got ee: xf86OpenSerial:Cannot open device /dev/wacom no such file or directory , what can I do, now I am in a LiveCD, but I need to open my ubuntu, my xorg is just like the one which appear in the liveCD, pls help me
[10:39] <ExodusWFS> If I am trying to get Wine for Kubuntu... Which package should I use? :0
[10:39] <menace> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:39] <menace> i keep getting that error when i try to install something using terminal
[10:40] <Blissex> ubuntu: delete all the 'wacom' input device entries... They are useless.
[10:40] <menace> and i dont have adept open
[10:40] <Dink> usually means you have 2 apt-get or adept opened
[10:40] <menace> no only one terminal is open and adept isnt open
[10:40] <fdoving> menace: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[10:40] <menace> ty
[10:41] <ubuntu> Blissex: thanks I will and be back
[10:41] <Shift> Hi, i have a problem with adept and the "add/remove". When I try to install something(not a specific program) I get this massege: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packeges or the commit would break packeges". i have no idea what`s the problem, yesterday it worked graet..
[10:41] <ExodusWFS> If I am trying to get Wine for Kubuntu... Which package should I use? :0
[10:41] <kyaneos> ExodusWFS: what packages there are??
[10:41] <kyaneos> ExodusWFS: how many?
[10:42] <fdoving> !wine > exoduswfs
[10:42] <ExodusWFS> http://www.winehq.com/site/download
[10:42] <ExodusWFS> Alot.
[10:42] <ExodusWFS> Two for Ubunbtu
[10:43] <kyaneos> ExodusWFS: but i think it is in ubuntu repositories
[10:43] <kai> hey guys! does anybody know where to disable the "NV" module?
[10:43] <kyaneos> ExodusWFS: in universe
[10:43] <ExodusWFS> Yeah, but which of the two in Ubuntu
[10:43] <menace>  is libqt-perl installed?
[10:43] <kyaneos> ExodusWFS: what appears when you did apt-get install wine ??
[10:43] <menace> since it keeps asking that, should i install libqt-perl?
[10:45] <ExodusWFS> Not available
[10:45] <kyaneos> ExodusWFS: has you activated the universe repository
[10:47] <Shift> Hi, i have a problem with adept and the "add/remove". When I try to install something(not a specific program) I get this massege: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packeges or the commit would break packeges". i have no idea what`s the problem, yesterday it worked graet..
[10:49] <lupine_85> Anyone know how I can get a program to load up when I start a session?
[10:50] <fdoving> gnite all.
[10:50] <lupine_85> like the System->Preferences->Settings thing in GNOME?
[10:50] <fdoving> lupine_85: like ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[10:50] <conhe> !tibia
[10:50] <lupine_85> that might work :). thanks
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tibia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <Shift> Hi, i have a problem with adept and the "add/remove". When I try to install something(not a specific program) I get this massege: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packeges or the commit would break packeges". i have no idea what`s the problem, yesterday it worked graet..
[10:51] <lupine_85> so just a symlink in there to the appropriate binary should work?
[10:51] <fdoving> lupine_85: make a symlink to the program, or make a script that executes the commands you want to run, in that directory.
[10:51] <fdoving> lupine_85: yes.
[10:51] <fdoving> now, good nite.
[10:51] <lupine_85> night :)
[10:51] <conhe> any here play tibia ?
[10:51] <bloodcrawler> ahh...
[10:52] <bloodcrawler> i had play this shit long time ago... :P
[10:53] <draik> what are *.ogg files? Audio or Video?
[10:53] <marc_> audio
[10:53] <draik> thank you marc_
[10:53] <marc_> np
[10:55] <poseidon> How do you get the desktop to switch when you move your mouse to the side of the screen?
[10:56] <JesseBeau> .ogg is both audio and video...
[10:58] <soulrider> uhm, how cna i burn an audio CD with mp3s i got in my hard drive ?
[10:58] <malachi> alien didnt work frostwire didnt work...anyclues
[10:58] <soulrider> i wanna make it readable for a regular CD player
[10:58] <JesseBeau> Use k3b?
[10:58] <soulrider> i tired
[10:58] <soulrider> and went to audio CD
[10:58] <soulrider> but said my mp3s werent supported
[10:59] <JesseBeau> Wait a second...
[10:59] <malachi> is there a help channel on here?
[10:59] <soulrider> this is a help channel
[10:59] <Dink> anyone know if seveas has edgy repository ??
[11:00] <malachi> oh ok well then what exactly am i suppose to do to install programs?
[11:00] <knithx> !ati
[11:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <JesseBeau> Install libk3b2-mp3
[11:00] <knithx> hi
[11:00] <knithx> I have Ubuntu Edgy Eft AMD64, and ATI card
[11:00] <knithx> I followed the instructions
[11:00] <knithx> But fglrxinfo shows:
[11:00] <knithx> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:00] <knithx> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:00] <knithx> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[11:00] <knithx> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[11:00] <knithx> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[11:00] <soulrider> malachi: have you tried adept ?
[11:01] <knithx> how can I get the properly output?
[11:01] <malachi> yeah i typed in my password adn nothing happened
[11:02] <Dink> knithx, try this ...   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:04] <draik> How do I permanently remove the Power Saving feature for my monitor. I do it under the regular user and admin mode, but its always back in my user.
[11:04] <draik> ?
[11:04] <Shift> Hi, i have a problem with adept and the "add/remove". When I try to install something(not a specific program) I get this massege: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packeges or the commit would break packeges". i have no idea what`s the problem, yesterday it worked graet..
[11:05] <malachi> anyone here think they can tell me how to get limewire or frostwire to work>?
[11:06] <CraZy675> I was wondering if anyone could help me with a little command line?
[11:06] <CraZy675> i have 1 huge dir with a bunch of mp3s in it (6000ish)
[11:06] <soulrider> malachi, download the .deb fromt he frostwire site and install it
[11:06] <CraZy675> i wanna move all the Artist - whatever.mp3 into the Artist dir
[11:06] <marc_> you need to install java for using limewire
[11:06] <soulrider> remember you must have java installed for frostwire/limewire to work
[11:07] <Pacoste> hello all
[11:08] <soulrider> !es
[11:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:09] <Pacoste> yop les gens
[11:09] <Pacoste> j'aurais besoin d'un conseil, au sujet du formatage d'un disque en ext2
[11:10] <TheGateKeeper> !fr
[11:10] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:12] <Pacoste> je voulais savoir quel est le meilleur compromis pour formater une partition de 280 Go en ext2 mais sans perdre plusieurs Go. Donc quelle taille de cluster je doit mettre et tout pour perdre le moins de place possible, en sachant que je compte stocker des gros fichiers generalement
[11:12] <Shift> Hi, i have a problem with adept and the "add/remove". When I try to install something(not a specific program) I get this massege: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packeges or the commit would break packeges". i have no idea what`s the problem, yesterday it worked graet..
[11:12] <Pacoste> car j'ai format mon disque avec une taille de cluster de 4096 octets mais ca me bouffe 13 Go pour l'indexation ou je ne sais trop koi :d
[11:14] <Shift> Hello, I have a problem with adept and the "add/remove". When I try to install any program I get this massege: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packeges or the commit would break packeges". i have no idea what`s the problem, yesterday it worked graet..
[11:14] <elois> ns
[11:15] <ubuntu> Hello guys I am back, I don-t have any error now, but I still can start my ubuntu , the msg is THE XSERVER LOOKS LIKE IT_S NOT well configured, but my xorg.conf is just like the one in the live cd and I erase the wacom lines. what can i do now
[11:19] <Blissex> ubuntu: look at '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' and see if there are any other errors. the X server usually prints there why it is not working.
[11:19] <ubuntu> ok
[11:20] <octan> ubotu, grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:20] <ubotu> grep: GNU grep, egrep and fgrep. In component main, is required. Version 2.5.1.ds2-4 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 640 kB
[11:20] <octan> ubuntu, grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:20] <unix_infidel> :P
[11:20] <octan> lol
[11:20] <ubuntu> octan, ok my friend I will be back
[11:34] <woul> hello folks
[11:36] <woul> im trying to install mp3 support within amarok but no changes after pushing the button
[11:36] <woul> did anyone make it work?
[11:38] <woul> ?
[11:38] <cpk2> woul: did you get libxine-extracodecs
[11:39] <cpk2> !info libxine-extracodecs
[11:39] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:40] <woul> ah, ok...i  know how to install this way...i just dont understand why doesn t work within amarok
[11:41] <D4rkly> how do i reconfigure a package ?
[11:41] <D4rkly> using apt-get
[11:42] <octan> you use
[11:42] <octan> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:42] <octan> not apt
[11:42] <D4rkly> ok cool :)
[11:49] <hyper> someone got EasyCam2 to work on Edgy?
[11:49] <crimsun> main2: no, I'm not in charge of it
[11:49] <main2> crimsun: hi
[11:50] <main2> crimsun: im not unpatient, but i wonder if it will ever arive :D
[11:51] <cpk2> hey having a problem i am having with a symlink
[11:52] <cpk2> i cant update azplugins because /home/cpk1/.azureus/plugins/azplugins links to /usr/share/azureus/plugins/azplugins/ should i just remove the link or just give myself permissions there?
[11:55] <cpk2> guess i killed the mood =\
[11:57] <jj> anyone in here use vmware?
[11:57] <lupine_85> cpk2: is rthere anything in the linked-to dir?
[11:57] <lupine_85> jj: sort of
[11:57] <doppelganger_> hey guys...  i'm having issues with this new Beryl crud (worked fine with compiz)...   what's the easiest way to switch to regular ubuntu with gnome without fubaring most of my stuff?
[11:58] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: Probably best to ask in #Ubuntu-XGL
[11:58] <doppelganger_> np, will do hawk
[11:58] <cpk2> lupine_85: yes
[11:59] <lupine_85> then best to create a custom group for that folder, add yourself to that group and g+w the directory
[11:59] <jj> so is vmware free or do i have to pay?
[11:59] <hyper> vmware server is free
[11:59] <lupine_85> vmware-server and vmware-player are free
[11:59] <lupine_85> vmware-workstation isn't
[11:59] <jj> whats the difference?
[12:00] <cpk2> lupine_85: I am assuming it would be safe to make the group for the whole azureus folder? how would I go about changing the permissions after the group is made?
[12:00] <lupine_85> cpk2: yes, the whole folder and everything in the folder
[12:01] <cpk2> lupine_85: is there a way to recursively change the group from the parent dir?
[12:01] <lupine_85> sudo chgrp -R <group-name> /usr/share/azureus/plugins/azplugins
[12:01] <lupine_85> that should do it
[12:02] <lupine_85> I'm not sure if the symlink will reflect the changes or not - I assume so, but if not just recreate it
[12:02] <Hawkwind> jj: Have you read the info on the vmware.com website.  It explains all the differences
[12:05] <cpk2> lupine_85: err how do i redo the symlink?
[12:06] <lupine_85> rm <symlink> && ln -s <destination> <symlink>
[12:10] <cpk2> argh azureus still cant write to /home/cpk1/.azureus/plguins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.1.jar