=== Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:47] kwwii is back?! Yay! [12:48] yeah, /me is back from Ireland [12:49] I noticed Kubuntu 6.10 Beta looks very awesome [12:49] did a bit of work on a kubuntu kmenu icon while I was there [12:49] Viper550: thanks :-) [12:49] Cool, everything is looking great...but at first I thought the panel background was mine! [12:50] yeah, it was really based on yours [12:50] the same idea [12:50] I tried to make it a bit softer [12:50] not sure if there is a real difference, in the end [12:51] Oh...mine wasn't soft enough? [12:51] well, when I look at them that is the impression I get, perhaps I am silly though [12:51] I spent a week on a bunkbed [12:51] quite tired [12:52] Yeah, bunkbeds do that to you :P [12:52] Viper550: what do you think about turning on the "colorize to bg color" option? [12:52] dude, I am 35 with an 8 year old child, I do not need a bunkbed [12:53] That's another option I've been looking at/promoting, not many distros enable it on their KDE, would give us some originality [12:55] from what I have heard so far, people like it colorized [12:55] I think we should try it out [12:56] Yeah, I even use mine colorized, since it colors along with the color scheme used, it will complete our purple makeover! [01:01] still there? [01:04] sorry, in the bathroom [01:04] hehe, yeah [01:05] it is actually a blue color, but in the darker colors it looks purplle [01:05] Oh yeah, I still think that offical Usplash for Kubuntu is nice! [01:05] I have seen many computers where it looks more blue [01:05] I think we could still make the Usplash a bit neaer [01:05] neater [01:06] I though about makng the same lines as the wallpaper only set on a black bg, mainly tranparent [01:11] hmm... [01:14] I would like to use the wallpaper in the usplash, but with the logo and progress bar it is too many colors [01:14] well, really, even without the logo and the progress bar it is too many colors === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:15] hello andreasn [01:17] andreasn: I have a small movement of people dedicated to migrating to the freedesktop naming spec for kde4 and plans are underway :-) === kwwii is going to sleep now...see you all later [01:19] night === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957069.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Konversation] [01:21] Not many people have been submitting stuff into the Polish phase...only one...me! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Polish/Incoming === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"] === Huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === henya [n=henya@pool-72-71-165-57.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === unfknblvbl [n=unfknblv@dsl-202-72-170-229.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === unfknblvbl [n=unfknblv@dsl-202-72-170-229.wa.westnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === msikma [n=Msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:48] Hello all ! === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === aragorn [n=aragorn@host138-5.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:36] troy_s: ping [04:41] go bersace [04:54] troy_s: wait a minute [05:02] troy_s: re === OpenStandards [n=vir@AC8EBC34.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:09] greetings openstandards [06:09] interesting handle [06:10] Hi :) [06:13] troy_s, do you know the link to where I can find the ubuntu colour scemes? [06:14] well... i would love to say yes [06:15] there are 'official' colours [06:15] but they are not adhered to in _any_ respect [06:15] are you referring to dapper? [06:16] the current jumbled up mess in dapper has no consistency what so ever, so you could basically sample the bits and use them. [06:16] the logo HAS been implemented consistently [06:16] just the offical colour set [06:16] and the colours are located in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official [06:16] again though, don't expect seamless integration with the other colours as there has been _zero_ design adherence in dapper on that. [06:17] ok then [06:17] the logo colours _are_ adhered to [06:17] regarding the circle of friends colours [06:17] but that is where the consistency stops unfortunately. [06:18] we tried to establish somewhat of a more consistent palette approach for edgy, but that is going to be reverted to the dapper look. [06:19] will a different palette be used in the future? [06:19] i am trying to convince mark to do this [06:20] but first i think the trust relationship needs to develop with some folks. [06:21] don't expect it in the short term (6 months) [06:21] i'm surpised he hasn't gone with an idea of seasons [06:21] i like that idea too. [06:21] but effectively, the aesthetic is all over the board [06:21] and there exists a serious discontinuity between the primary elements (gdm/icons/wallpaper/etc) [06:22] which, hopefully, we can work towards resolving. [06:22] unfortunately, the attempts from this cycle have failed to meet his acceptance. [06:23] whats happening will the guidelines be simular to tango in the future [06:23] well i would like to see clearer guidelines than even tango's [06:24] that said, there needs to be an agreement on a fundamental set of issues like palette, motifs, etc. [06:24] which currently there isn't. [06:25] there are three primary avenues to achieving visual harmony [06:25] colour, thematic, and repetition [06:25] you british? [06:25] thus far, ubuntu meets exactly _zero_ of those requirements. [06:25] no [06:25] you spelt colour like a brit :) [06:25] (with the exception being that a good subset of the icons meet the repetition element) [06:25] (and colour) [06:25] yes i am canadian [06:26] so we spell several words in the british derivative. [06:26] do you develop work OpenStandards ? [06:26] well looking to [06:27] is your handle registered with nickserv? [06:27] yeah it is [06:28] i must head out [06:28] feel free to email me to discuss things further [06:28] ok? [06:28] will do, thanks === dborg [n=daniel@e182058188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === troy_s_ [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=Msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-64-200-138.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-011-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === shawarma [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:56] troy_s_: ping [10:02] fschoep [10:02] ping [10:02] yo yo [10:02] troy_s_: pong [10:02] troy_s_: got some minutes? [10:02] how are you my brother? [10:02] shawarma thank the team [10:03] unfortunately, it won't be in edgy [10:03] troy_s_: Huh? What are "they" putting in instead? [10:03] troy_s_: I'm doing fine, thanks [10:03] troy_s_: you? [10:03] shawarma -- long story [10:03] fschoep fine thank you [10:03] shawarma: troy_s_ is this about what I think it is? [10:03] just had daughters birthday party. [10:04] Sounds great :-) [10:04] fschoep: I just /msg'ed troy_s_ saying that I thought the gdm screen in current edgy if bloody awesome. [10:04] shawarma -- meet fschoep the Artist In Chief for edgy -- but he is more of an ambassador for mark. [10:04] Pleased to meet you [10:04] likewise [10:04] there have been quite a few polishes... but they haven't been committed to the repositories yet. [10:05] i should probably change the topic to the current link frank put up. [10:05] Indeed [10:05] hold on [10:05] Please do [10:05] wtf [10:05] What's up my brother? [10:05] Can't set topic title because your nick is changed? === Ziznin0 [n=Zinzin0|@modemcable242.211-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:06] grr [10:06] looks like they reset a bunch of garbage [10:06] Can you rejoin with your normal nick? [10:06] ahh [10:06] i see. [10:06] Oh dear, it wasn't me? === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:06] Right. [10:06] That's better [10:06] I think === mode/#ubuntu-artwork [+o troy_s] by ChanServ [10:06] Ah, dand [10:06] dandy === Ziznin0 [n=Zinzin0|@modemcable242.211-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Quitte"] [10:07] ...so.. if the gdm screen in current Edgy is not going to be in edgy when it releases.. what is? [10:07] shawarma: a brand new design [10:07] basically nothing will change [10:07] fundamentally [10:07] fschoep: Can it be seen anywhere? [10:07] shawarma: inspired by Dapper's version, updated to reflect some new visuals [10:07] shawarma: it's being created as we speak [10:07] fschoep: well, it should be being created as we speak === ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:troy_s] : As usual -- last minute art if you are interested -- the guidelines for submissions are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Polish/Directions -- follow them closely if you are going to invest time. [10:08] FWIW, when I saw the current one, I was totally blown away. [10:08] i can tell you i won't be bothering [10:08] That sounds a bit too jaded I think [10:08] i just don't have the time of late [10:08] this show is gearing up into full bore [10:08] I can understand [10:08] and i have tried to negotiate the issues [10:08] which fundamentally end up back where we started [10:09] Yes, but nobody is pointing a finger towards you Troy, you did an excellent job. [10:10] i am not concerned about myself actually [10:10] i don't mind any of the effort. i was more hopeful to look at the overarching design concerns and _try_ to address them in a more professional, sophisticated manner. [10:10] will troy's design at least be available as well? [10:10] unfortunately, it will take more time [10:11] and the politicking is a little nightmarish [10:11] i simply don't have time for it. [10:11] I know, I'm sorry it ultimately came down to that [10:11] needless to say, i have drafted an art director from my industry to help out on ubun2 as well. [10:11] shawarma: it'll probably be around, yes [10:11] troy_s: sounds large scale all of a sudden? === mode/#ubuntu-artwork [-o troy_s] by troy_s [10:11] well... [10:11] the best way to illustrate how something _should_ be done, is to do it. [10:12] I can't argue with tat [10:12] that* [10:12] :) [10:12] i am simply unwilling to mire more professional folks in the process [10:12] when the demonstrated path of design is characteristically crippled. [10:12] unfortunate, but i can't waste their time. [10:13] i don' t mind wasting mine because i am committed to what Ubuntu is. [10:13] Yes [10:13] Urgh... I didn't mean to shake the bee hive.. :-) [10:13] shawarma it wasn't you my friend. [10:13] shawarma: I think it was already shaken up :) [10:13] shawarma you just popped in at the turning point [10:13] i really hope someone will step up and design what mark wants. [10:13] who has some time. [10:14] I have time [10:14] jmak is doing some designs as well [10:14] i am pretty confident that there will be a decent team behind the ubun2 project. [10:14] ubun2? [10:14] i have several professional folks interested thus far, the missing components will be the technological end. [10:14] which i hope to draft seveas on. [10:57] wow [10:57] http://suissacomputers.com/ === fschoep_ [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:00] troy_s: ping [11:01] troy_s: Hello? [11:01] howdy [11:01] you get that last link? [11:01] http://suissacomputers.com/ [11:01] gee... [11:01] not at all like the six designers were talking about. [11:02] Can anyone see my messages? [11:02] Allo allo? [11:03] fschoep_ you there? [11:04] troy_s: I think so [11:04] Allo allo? [11:04] see if you can get yoru fschoep back [11:04] quit and rejoin [11:04] Right === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:05] Allo? === matjan [n=matjan@216-154-17-66.dsl.look.ca] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === matjan [n=matjan@216-154-17-66.dsl.look.ca] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"] [11:14] troy_s: ping?