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| rouzic | Hi all | 12:09 |
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| rouzic | I have a problem with a wifi in the Macbook and Beta Kubuntu Edgy | 12:09 |
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| mdke_ | BenC: still here? | 12:12 |
| BenC | mdke_: yeah | 12:12 |
| mdke_ | BenC: hi. Did Matt Nuzum ask you about a problem with some servers network cards with the dapper kernel? | 12:12 |
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| BenC | mdke_: Can you be more specific about the problem..I'm not so good with names :) | 12:13 |
| mdke_ | BenC: sure thing, I guess he hasn't :) Canonical rents some dedicated servers for locoteams and such, Matt manages them. When upgraded to dapper, they don't see the network and can't be reached. | 12:14 |
| mdke_ | eth is VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) | 12:15 |
| mdke_ | have you heard anything about similar problems? | 12:15 |
| jdong | hmm, is that the via quirks thing again? | 12:16 |
| zul | no thats something else probably | 12:17 |
| mdke_ | I don't know anything else about it than that, except that Breezy has no problem | 12:17 |
| BenC | no, never heard of that problem before | 12:17 |
| mdke_ | I guess I don't even know for sure it's a problem with the network card or the kernel, but that sounded to me like a probable cause | 12:17 |
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| BenC | mdke_: is it using latest dapper-security kernel? | 12:17 |
| jdong | hehe, that sounds like a catch-22 to me... upgrading to dapper-security to fix a network card driver... :) | 12:18 |
| mdke_ | BenC: I can't tell you that, I haven't tried an upgrade away from Breezy on the server I manage. But it is likely that it was only tried with an early dapper kernel, and then people reverted to Breezy kernels | 12:18 |
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| mdke_ | it's a tricky thing to debug :) | 12:20 |
| mdke_ | BenC: ok, since it hasn't rung any bells, we'll file a bug | 12:23 |
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| === Fade wonders if anybody here is running edgy on a powerpc box | ||
| BloaSE | What is better linux or windows? | 12:34 |
| Fade | lol | 12:34 |
| Fade | ham? I thought you said grasshopper! | 12:34 |
| Fujitsu | BloaSE, please stop trolling. You do this too often. | 12:35 |
| BloaSE | what is better lamb or beef Rogan Josh? | 12:36 |
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| tseng | please take it somewhere else. | 12:36 |
| Fade | 'cause I have a bear of an xemacs bug that's really cramping my style. ;) | 12:37 |
| Fade | and I don't know if this is peculiar to my machine, or if it's all over the place. | 12:37 |
| tseng | Fade: have you searched launchpad? | 12:38 |
| Fade | of course. ;) | 12:38 |
| tseng | have you filed a new bug? | 12:38 |
| Fade | yes | 12:38 |
| tseng | ok then :) | 12:38 |
| Fade | it isn't new so much as almost three weeks old, tho. ;) | 12:38 |
| tseng | maybe imbrandon is a ppc emacs guy | 12:39 |
| Fujitsu | He's more nano, AFAIK :P | 12:39 |
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| tseng | nano, how useful | 12:40 |
| Fujitsu | I'm a Vimmer, myself. | 12:40 |
| tseng | i have seen people setup syntax hilighting and some decent stuff in nano, though | 12:40 |
| BloaSE | The process for install ATI cards under ubuntu is rather long and drawn out, linux need's what windows has in .exe | 12:41 |
| tseng | BloaSE: if you don't have anything sensible to say, please leave, you've been asked twice | 12:41 |
| tseng | final warning | 12:42 |
| BloaSE | ok | 12:42 |
| tseng | phew. | 12:43 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah. | 12:44 |
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| Fade | this is the bug: | 12:44 |
| Fade | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xemacs21/+bug/58856 | 12:45 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58856 in xemacs21 "xemacs segfaults on edgy powerpc system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:45 |
| Fade | gnuemacs is also bjorked. ;) | 12:45 |
| tseng | have you looked at a backtrace? | 12:45 |
| Fade | although less so. gnu doesn't segfault, it just displays a frame with little empty squares instead of letters. | 12:45 |
| Fade | yeah, they're in the bug report. | 12:46 |
| tseng | fun font problems | 12:46 |
| Fade | it's interesting. I've built upstream sources all the way up to bleeding edge, and they all fail the same way. | 12:47 |
| Fade | but it's a biotch to have to boot OSX to get an XEmacs frame. ;) | 12:47 |
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| Fade | the gtk/gnome frame comes up, but dies spectacularly if you try to edit any of the faces. | 12:57 |
| Fade | ++bummer :) | 12:57 |
| Fade | anyhow, just thought I'd mention it; the fact that nobody has really seemed to bother about the report makes me wonder if it's just my system. | 12:58 |
| Fade | unless emacs has become spectacularly unpopular in ubuntu circles. | 12:59 |
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| LaserJock | hmm xemacs+edgy+ppc might be the problem | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | any 2 of those might give you significant amounts of people | 01:00 |
| tseng | LaserJock: plain-old-emacs is broken | 01:01 |
| tseng | according to Fade | 01:01 |
| Fade | on this platform. | 01:02 |
| Fade | there's a screenshot of a gnuemacs frame in that bug report that's pretty amusing. | 01:02 |
| Fade | http://librarian.launchpad.net/4132345/bad_emacs.png | 01:03 |
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| Fade | mithrandir was looking at it, but I think he got sidetracked. it's been sort of nuts around here lately. :) | 01:07 |
| tseng | he was building the beta, which is no small task | 01:08 |
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| Fade | *nod* | 01:12 |
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| Fade | ah, this is a duplicate: | 01:19 |
| Fade | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xemacs21/+bug/57586 | 01:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57586 in xemacs21 "XEmacs segfaults on startup in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:19 |
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| fdsd | hey guys, I am trying to modify the usplash on the ubuntu live cd, where do I add the usplash.so file for the shutdown process I just get the usplash edgy test pattern when shutting down, do I stick it in the initrd file in /boot or the root of the cd inside casper? also should both initrd files be the same? thanks | 01:40 |
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| ZigGaag | Ubuntu rocks your fucking socks off. | 03:17 |
| ZigGaag | =) | 03:17 |
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| _ion | mjg59: I posted a patch, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/62865/comments/1 | 03:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 62865 in usplash "1024x768 with nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE: "screen init failed"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 03:35 |
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| ne78 | Will the php5.1 version of edgy ship without PDO ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/50353, it quite critical php5.1 is supposed to have pdo, The reason seem to be debian laziness (bug open for 254 days with "it will happpen someday") http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=348882 | 04:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 50353 in php5 "Cannot install PDO and PDO Drivers in PHP5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 04:36 |
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| ne78 | i see everybody is sleeping | 04:38 |
| _ion | Yes. | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | totally sleeping | 04:44 |
| zul | very.. | 04:44 |
| _ion | It's cool how he was able to reach that conclusion within two minutes. | 04:47 |
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| zul | i think ill be doing what he is thinking...night | 04:51 |
| zul | hi/bye ogra | 04:51 |
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| pascalFR | hello | 08:32 |
| pascalFR | i'm trying to rebuild apt with debug but i obvioulsly need some lib | 08:32 |
| pascalFR | Building program ../build/bin/methods/file | 08:32 |
| pascalFR | ../build/bin/libapt-pkg.so: rfrence indfinie vers pkgVendorList::end() const | 08:32 |
| pascalFR | ../build/bin/libapt-pkg.so: rfrence indfinie vers pkgVendorList::begin() const | 08:32 |
| pascalFR | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | 08:32 |
| NthDegree | what about using apt-get build to download the source of apt-get and needed libs | 08:39 |
| NthDegree | or rather apt-get build-dep | 08:40 |
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| pascalFR | NthDegree: see http://pastebin.com/797690 apt-get build did nothing | 09:09 |
| minghua | pascalFR: a stupid question, but do you have build-essential installed? | 09:11 |
| pascalFR | minghua: yep :) | 09:11 |
| pascalFR | minghua: I mean installed :) | 09:12 |
| minghua | pascalFR: sounds like a bug to me then. maybe report it? | 09:12 |
| pascalFR | to debian or launchpad ? | 09:12 |
| tfheen | pascalFR: what does dpkg-checkbuilddeps return? | 09:13 |
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| pascalFR | tfheen: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: cannot read control file debian/control: No such file or directory | 09:14 |
| tfheen | run it from the apt-$versionnumber directory | 09:15 |
| minghua | pascalFR: run "dpkg-source -x apt_0.6.45ubuntu14.dsc" first | 09:15 |
| minghua | (then go into apt-0.6.45ubuntu14 and run dpkg-checkbuilddeps) | 09:15 |
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| pascalFR | ok it returns with rc=0 | 09:18 |
| minghua | pascalFR: are you building in a Debian system or Ubuntu system? | 09:19 |
| pascalFR | ubuntu | 09:19 |
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| pascalFR | edgy beta1 | 09:19 |
| minghua | pascalFR: in that case if you want to report a bug I think launchpad is the correct place | 09:20 |
| pascalFR | yes bug #57393 is where i updated info | 09:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57393 in apt "apt segfaults if /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin is wrong" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57393 | 09:21 |
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| pascalFR | i wanted to debug apt but cannot build it :( | 09:22 |
| tfheen | pascalFR: how are you trying to build it? | 09:24 |
| pascalFR | tfheen: http://pastebin.com/797690 | 09:24 |
| tfheen | pascalFR: oh, reproduced here. Please do file a bug on apt. | 09:29 |
| pascalFR | http://groups.google.fr/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/521e5beaf6be773a/23e931854d46e248?lnk=st&q=pkgVendorList%3A%3Aend&rnum=1&hl=fr#23e931854d46e248 | 09:30 |
| pascalFR | seems to be similar | 09:30 |
| ajmitch | excellent, xen got through NEW, thanks to whoever poked that theough | 09:30 |
| pascalFR | dated from 2005 seems to be linked to gcc version | 09:30 |
| pascalFR | bug #63299 submitted | 09:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 63299 in apt "apt cannot be rebuild from source" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63299 | 09:34 |
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| minghua | using "rebuild with noopt option" is probably a better idea | 09:36 |
| pascalFR | bug #63299 submitted | 09:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 63299 in apt "rebuild apt with noopt option fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63299 | 09:37 |
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| shining | hi | 11:35 |
| shining | isn't it weird to have different uuid for several partition ? is this known already ? | 11:35 |
| shining | same uuid for different partitions | 11:36 |
| shining | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268529 | 11:36 |
| Burgundavia | shining: please file a bug, this is not the place for bug reports | 11:38 |
| Burgundavia | shining: nor are the forums the correct locaiton | 11:38 |
| shining | exactly, the guy is asking help for reporting it. so you have to know against which package this bug needs to be reported against, and check it hasn't been reported before / isn't known by the dev yet | 11:39 |
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| Burgundavia | shining: off the top of my head, no. file it and let the triagers sort it out | 11:41 |
| tseng | hello Burgundavia | 11:42 |
| Burgundavia | hey tseng | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | hi Burgundavia, tseng | 11:43 |
| tseng | hey | 11:43 |
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| sivang | hey slomo , Burgundavia , tseng | 11:47 |
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| rouzic | Hi desrt | 01:21 |
| herzi | tfheen: ping | 01:24 |
| tfheen | herzi: if you'd include content with your pings, that'd be a tad more useful than just "ping". | 01:25 |
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| herzi | tfheen: can you take a look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/63277 | 01:29 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 63277 in casper "Doesn't work from USB devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:29 |
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| tfheen | herzi: no, I'm not working today and have a friend I am going to chat with now. | 01:33 |
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| pygi | siretart: ping, hopefully you got my message :) I hope I can get a reply some day :P | 01:49 |
| Treenaks | pygi: do you want it autographed too? | 01:49 |
| pygi | Treenaks: no, not really :) Just wanna know if the patch is fine =) | 01:50 |
| pygi | (against dvd+rw tools) | 01:50 |
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| siretart | pygi: I'm currently on a local LUG event, I'll look at it soon | 02:40 |
| slomo | doko, doko_: ping? | 02:40 |
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| popey | guys.. should i report a kernel bug for an unsupported sound card? | 02:46 |
| Treenaks | yes | 02:47 |
| popey | i guess it will be a wishlist item? | 02:47 |
| Treenaks | yes :) | 02:47 |
| === popey does so | ||
| Treenaks | popey: what kind of card? | 02:47 |
| popey | Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Music Sound Card | 02:47 |
| popey | 06:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs Unknown device 0005 | 02:47 |
| Treenaks | sounds horrible :) | 02:47 |
| popey | better than the in built nvidia one :S | 02:48 |
| minghua | popey: make sure you show the "lspci -n" result in the report too | 02:48 |
| popey | wilco | 02:48 |
| Treenaks | popey: no I mean the name | 02:48 |
| popey | aqhh | 02:48 |
| popey | agreed | 02:48 |
| popey | lspci -vv any good? | 02:48 |
| Treenaks | popey: that gives you the subsystem ID number, also nice to know | 02:49 |
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| popey | \o/ bug 63352 | 02:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 63352 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Creative labs X-Fi sound card unsupported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63352 | 02:55 |
| Treenaks | *\o/* | 02:56 |
| popey | :) | 02:56 |
| Treenaks | popey: you should add those to your ascii-art guy too :P | 02:57 |
| popey | :) | 02:59 |
| Spads | trigger.pl in irssi rocks: 14:00 4: -publics -regexp ':\)' -replace '' | 03:00 |
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| popey | \o/ utf-8 | 03:01 |
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| Spads | \/ | 03:06 |
| giftnudel | popey: please say what card this actually is in the bugreport | 03:09 |
| popey | i did | 03:09 |
| popey | in the title | 03:09 |
| popey | is that not sufficient? | 03:10 |
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| giftnudel | popey: oh, there is not more to it? Then that's fine, I didn't find it | 03:22 |
| popey | :) | 03:23 |
| popey | That's all it says on the spec for my pc online, and all the delivery sheet says | 03:23 |
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| |Danielle| | Nace una nueva red IRC: irc.ubuntuzone.org . Para conectarte: irc.ubuntuzone.org puerto 6668 | 03:29 |
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| ogra | Riddell, thanks for the link ... i'm not affiliated with gallium in any way, even i got around 300 rant mails (some even threatening my health) within the last week ... | 03:46 |
| zul | holy crap? | 03:47 |
| ogra | Riddell, that gives me a very disappointing view of the KDE community :( | 03:47 |
| zul | ogra: threatening your health you gotta be serious | 03:48 |
| ogra | yep | 03:48 |
| ogra | "we'll find out where you live" | 03:48 |
| zul | uh ok.. | 03:48 |
| ogra | "i'll hunt you down if you drop kdeedu " | 03:48 |
| ogra | etc etc | 03:48 |
| ogra | really mean stuff ... | 03:48 |
| Lathiat | awesome :\ | 03:49 |
| Treenaks | ogra: hm.. scary | 03:49 |
| lastnode | i missed the link, can someome repaste? (timed out) | 03:49 |
| ogra | its not the majority, but there are some really evil ones among them | 03:49 |
| zul | thats ridiculus over a piece of software | 03:49 |
| ogra | lastnode, http://cniehaus.livejournal.com/27154.html | 03:49 |
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| ogra | we have constant space constraints on the edubuntu CD due to including kdeedu (it just pulls in to many unused deps) so a community group started to write a new frontend for the kalzium data | 03:50 |
| ogra | (in the spirit of ubiquity or hwdb-gui-(kde,gnome)) | 03:51 |
| zul | still...ridiculous | 03:52 |
| ogra | right | 03:53 |
| lastnode_ | what i find hillarious is that most of these guys probably couldn't hurt a fly | 03:53 |
| lastnode_ | television has made everyone a gangster, seriously | 03:53 |
| lastnode_ | :\ | 03:53 |
| zul | more like the internet | 03:54 |
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| RicardoPerez | pitti: ping | 05:16 |
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| RicardoPerez | pitti: ping | 05:26 |
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| bddebian | Howdy folks | 05:52 |
| highvoltage | howdy! | 05:53 |
| _ion | howdy-how | 05:54 |
| bddebian | Heya highvoltage, _ion | 05:54 |
| welshbyte | hey bddebian | 05:56 |
| welshbyte | oops, this isn't -motu | 05:56 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: Yeah, don't talk to my lowly arse in here ;-P | 05:58 |
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| BenC | tfheen: ping | 06:15 |
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| theCore | I created a team, ubuntu-helpteam. and I would like a mailing list. Who should I contact? | 06:40 |
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| mc44 | theCore, mailman@lists.ubuntu.com | 06:42 |
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| theCore | mc44: thanks | 06:42 |
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| tfheen | BenC: yo | 07:04 |
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| jdong | BenC: can you fix bug 61235 pretty please? | 07:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 61235 in linux-source-2.6.17 "USB mass storage stops working after a while" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61235 | 07:07 |
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| BenC | tfheen: not sure if we still need admin approval for uploads, but linux-restricted-modules, linux-meta and linux-souce-2.6.17 are on their way (lrm and linux-meta are already there) | 07:10 |
| tseng | BenC: things are being accepted | 07:10 |
| BenC | fixing ubuntu-6.10 targeted bugs | 07:10 |
| BenC | ok | 07:11 |
| tseng | without intervention afaik | 07:11 |
| BenC | I noticed it didn't say it was awaiting admin approval, but wanted to be sure | 07:11 |
| tfheen | BenC: you don't need approvals now. Things will be announced when they lock down a bit for RC and release. | 07:14 |
| BenC | jdong: working on it | 07:16 |
| BenC | jdong: Please mark it for ubuntu-6.10 milestone and assing it to me so I don't forget? | 07:16 |
| BenC | *assign | 07:16 |
| _ion | mjg59: Hi | 07:21 |
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| RicardoPerez | pitti: ping | 08:24 |
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| mxpxpod | where do I report bugs with the installer cd? | 08:59 |
| ivoks | launchpad.net/malone | 08:59 |
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| fdsd | hey guys, in Knot3 ubuntu, the powerpc livecd does not power off the machine when you halt nor does it restart the computer, anyone know how I may fix it? | 09:18 |
| fdsd | it just hangs at a black screen with a - cursor at the top left | 09:18 |
| beuno | fdsd: support for edgy is in: #ubuntu+1 | 09:18 |
| beuno | this is only for development | 09:18 |
| fdsd | beuno, I am developing software for the livecd | 09:19 |
| beuno | :X | 09:19 |
| tfheen | fdsd: press enter and it should work | 09:20 |
| tfheen | fdsd: it's a known bug. | 09:21 |
| fdsd | oh really | 09:21 |
| fdsd | interesting, it probably is because it says press enter to halt but its not visible | 09:21 |
| fdsd | do you know what I can modify to change that? | 09:21 |
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| Toadstool | hi everybody | 09:32 |
| Toadstool | any buildd admin around? | 09:32 |
| tfheen | Toadstool: if it's just a simple thing, sure, if not, it's my sunday evening. :-P | 09:32 |
| Toadstool | http://librarian.launchpad.net/4565707/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-i386.xffm-proc_4.5.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz <-- ./configure could not find ps | 09:33 |
| Toadstool | tfheen: oh, right, sorry :) | 09:33 |
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| tfheen | Toadstool: curious build failure, unsure why that happened. You probably need infinity, though. | 09:48 |
| shawarma | Toadstool: it doesn't build-depend on gs? | 09:48 |
| tfheen | shawarma: gs != ps | 09:49 |
| Toadstool | tfheen: ok, i'll ask him tomorrow | 09:49 |
| shawarma | tfheen: Doh... | 09:49 |
| Toadstool | thanks | 09:49 |
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| geser | how should the update from imake and makedepend (dapper) to xutils-dev (edgy) happen? | 09:57 |
| shawarma | tfheen: the buildd's have biuld-essential installed, its dependencies and nothing else, right? | 09:58 |
| tfheen | shawarma: they should have essential: yes and priority: required installed too. | 09:58 |
| shawarma | tfheen: ah, ok. | 09:58 |
| ajmitch | morning | 10:07 |
| pygi | hey ajmitch | 10:09 |
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| jasper | Hello can someone explain me how to edit a file that has root privileges? | 10:34 |
| Mez | !support | 10:35 |
| jasper | !support | 10:35 |
| Mez | oh, ok - try #ubuntu for support please jasper | 10:35 |
| HiddenWolf | jasper: #ubuntu-nl | 10:35 |
| jasper | oh oke wrong channel :) | 10:35 |
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| mdke_ | update-manager -d doesn't work anymore for upgrading to the development version? | 11:07 |
| _ion | mdke: --help | 11:09 |
| mdke_ | _ion: yeah. That says it works, but running it on my dapper doesn't see Edgy | 11:09 |
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| _ion | Um. My point was the "-c" in the --help listing. AFAIR dapper has it, too. | 11:11 |
| _ion | I might remember incorrectly, though. | 11:11 |
| mdke_ | _ion: that appears to be for new stable distributions, whereas -d is for new devel distributions. At least that's my interpretation of the --help dialogue | 11:11 |
| mdke_ | lemme try -c | 11:13 |
| mdke_ | no, nothing there either | 11:13 |
| fdsd | hey guys, I want to burn two types of livecds to a disc, for example, I have gotten ubuntu powerpc livecd 6.06 and x86 livecd down to 200mb, I want to make one disc that will allow me to boot off both, I can make the x86 iso on the first session so PCs can boot off it, and put the powerpc livecd on the second session so I can hold down option at boot on a mac and boot off it, but my question is how do I burn both Isos to a disc? I assum | 11:13 |
| fdsd | e mkisofs or cdrecord can do it.. Any ideas? | 11:13 |
| LaserJock | mdke_: worked just fine for me | 11:15 |
| mdke_ | LaserJock: hmm. | 11:15 |
| _ion | I'd assume you'd need '-c -d' | 11:16 |
| mdke_ | _ion: yes, that works... although it sounds weird | 11:16 |
| mdke_ | thanks for getting it working anyhow :) | 11:16 |
| _ion | It would be nice if --help told -c is not implied by -d. | 11:17 |
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