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pygijdong: ping_12:33
pygi?12:34
jdongpygi: pong12:34
pygijdong: you wrote a UVF request for wine? :)12:34
jdongpygi: no, not yet12:34
pygijdong: oki, just wanted to ask :)12:34
jdongpygi: but further looking around shows that 0.9.21 is a buggy release, and we REALLY should get 2212:34
jdongpygi: so you wanna UVF it?12:34
pygijdong: that is true12:35
jdongI'm busy doing some prevu fixups right now12:35
pygijdong: but 22 isn't out yet if I'm not mistaken?12:35
jdongpygi: yes it is :)12:35
jdongwinehq12:35
jdongbuilds cleanly with our diff.gz12:35
pygithe last one I see is 21 :P12:36
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jdonghttp://www.winehq.com/?announce=latest12:36
pygihm, right, snapshot date12:36
jdongit's a fresh new release12:36
pygiergh, that isn't on their homepage :)12:36
pygiwell, we want 22 :)12:36
pygiI'll leave you now to do the fixups and bug you again later :)12:37
FujitsuOur NZian friend is back in -devel... What fun.12:37
tsengFujitsu: oh12:41
FujitsuThis guy was MarkShuttleworth, and comes back in every few days... He just won't give up.12:42
tsengsome day -devel will be +m12:43
Q-FUNKodd guy12:47
iXceno way to get rid of him?12:48
tsengI just did12:48
tsengbut he will be back12:48
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FujitsuUnfortunately, we can't ban him trivially, as he's on a dynamic IP, and it's the largest ISP in NZ, apparently.12:50
iXceargh12:58
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jdongis there any way to manually give pbuilder some deb packages to use while resolving dependencies?01:02
jdongi.e. I am backporting foo, but that needs a libbar/libbar-dev backport01:03
tsengyou can either --save-after-login and install them by hand01:03
tsengor build an apt source and add it01:03
jdongtseng: hmm, ok01:03
jdongtseng: is pbuilder smart enough to automatically bind-mount, or do I need to do it for it?01:04
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tsengbind-mount what?01:04
jdongtseng: i.e. othermirror "deb file:/var/cache/pbuilder/result"01:04
jdongwill it be able to find it?01:04
tsengerm01:04
tsengno.01:04
tsengits a chroot01:04
jdongok, simple pbuilderrc modification then01:04
jdongthanks tseng!01:04
lupine_85bam the whole ISP? ;)01:04
lupine_85ban*01:04
tsenglupine_85: erm, no.01:05
TheMusoHey all.01:11
FujitsuHey TheMuso.01:12
LaserJockhi01:12
FujitsuHi LaserJock.01:13
tsengyay LaserJock01:14
Fujitsu\o/ Ubuntuholic.01:14
LaserJockheh01:15
LaserJockwell, I think I managed to get my blog on planet01:16
LaserJocknow I need to blog something01:17
pyginice LaserJock :)01:17
LaserJockbut today hasn't been all that fun so I'm not sure what to do01:17
tsengblog about lasers?01:18
LaserJocktseng: I'd get kicked off planet01:19
tsengLaserJock: ...?01:20
LaserJockfor just blabbing about lasers01:20
LaserJockwho cares about lasers01:20
LaserJock;-)01:20
tsengthe only person who should be kicked off planet is "Ubuntu Demon"01:20
Fujitsu?01:21
tseng?01:21
FujitsuWhy>?01:21
tsengbecause his "hackergotchi" gives me seizures, to start01:22
tsenga few weeks ago he mistook planet ubuntu for digg.com01:22
tsengcorey burger straightened him out01:22
Fujitsu...01:22
LaserJockthe "Tell me what laptop to get" ones were interesting01:22
LaserJockbut whatever01:22
tsengyou must have missed the 3 posts a day with no content01:23
tseng"I FOUND ANOTHER WEBSIGHT"01:23
tsengetc01:23
FujitsuTerrific.01:23
tsengI have a stricter idea of what a recognized memeber should be, I guess01:24
LaserJockhmm, the network montior applet is reeealy wide01:26
FujitsuLaserJock, using wireless?01:28
LaserJocksure01:28
LaserJockupgraded to edgy last night01:28
LaserJockeverything seems awesome01:28
LaserJockit even resumes right now01:28
FujitsuYay :)01:28
FujitsuI'm currently building 2.6.18 to see if it fixes some of my audio problems...01:29
LaserJockX even worked the first time ;-)01:29
pygiLaserJock: I had to chroot into my system to change users password, because the one I chosen on install wasn't correct :P01:29
FujitsuIt has some nice Intel HDA fixes.01:29
tsengintel hda fixes eh?01:30
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tsengwhat problems, btw01:30
FujitsuApplications attempting to access the microphone hang, I've only got PCM and Master mixers...01:31
Fujitsu(ICH6 is the chipset)01:31
LaserJockhmm01:33
LaserJockso maybe I should try hooking up my digital camera01:33
FujitsuWhy?01:33
LaserJockI've never tried it in Linux before01:33
FujitsuWow.01:34
FujitsuMine just appears as a USB Mass Storage device, so it works fine.01:34
LaserJockremember, I don't *actually* use my computer ;-)01:34
pyginight all01:35
FujitsuSee ya, pygi.01:35
LaserJockoh wow01:36
LaserJockit just pops up a window01:36
LaserJock"Import Photos", is that fspot?01:36
FujitsuNo, still gthumb.01:36
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Lathiati find the gthumb stuff works nice tho01:38
FujitsuLathiat, yeah, I don't use F-Spot.01:38
LaserJockI've never even seen an f-spot screenshot01:38
LaserJockman I need to get a life01:38
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LaserJockwow, that was rather smooth01:49
LaserJockbut than windows01:49
LaserJockUbuntu stikes again01:49
tsengLaserJock: f-spot rules01:49
ajmitchhi01:57
tsenghi ajmitch01:57
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tsengnice f-spot highlight01:57
ajmitchnah01:57
ajmitchI just came back01:57
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LaserJockajmitch: I just tried it for the first time02:00
LaserJockfirst time using my digital camera with linux02:00
LaserJockver cool02:00
LaserJock*very02:00
ajmitchyeah, it's quite a useful program02:00
minghuaare you guys talking about f-spot?02:05
tsengyes02:05
LaserJockI'm finally feeling like this laptop is a productive machine02:09
LaserJockgrr, except I can't get rid of vmplayer02:10
ajmitchwhy can't you drop vmplayer?02:10
LaserJockprerm bails02:13
ajmitchah02:13
ajmitchI thought you meant that you had to have it for windows or similar :)02:14
zulqualify software that vmware02:14
ajmitchheh02:14
LaserJockwell, the prerm runs /etc/init.d/vmplayer stop02:15
ajmitchhack the prerm02:15
LaserJockwhich give fails on shutting down the virtual ethernet02:15
LaserJocks/give//02:15
LaserJockanyway, yeah, I'm going to hack the prerm02:16
LaserJockI don't even remember why I had vmplayer on here02:17
imbrandonfskin wonderfull, i think that 160 just died02:17
imbrandonjust what i needed02:17
LaserJockhard drive?02:17
ajmitchimbrandon: sounds about right02:17
imbrandonyea02:17
FujitsuThe one giving the SMART error?02:17
imbrandonyup02:17
Fujitsu... you hadn't replaced it yet?02:18
imbrandondude i have no cash atm ( not for that anyhow )02:18
FujitsuAh, OK.02:18
imbrandongreat, looks like i'm stuck on my lappy for a while ;(02:18
imbrandoni have all the data , thats no biggie, its just no hdd in that computer now ;(02:19
imbrandonheh anyone wanna buy an ipod , or trade for a new sata drive ? hehe02:21
crimsunimbrandon: cf. query.02:21
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LaserJock"Sorry, the program "f-spot.exe" closed unexpectedly." - oops :-)02:22
zulheh i think we are having a girl, it just moved when my wife mentioned the word shopping02:23
LaserJockhahaha02:23
LaserJockanybody got a sid chroot/box?02:33
zuli use to02:34
tsengi do on the other pc02:34
tsengbut i cant be arsed to get up02:34
ajmitchLaserJock: yes02:34
LaserJockajmitch: can you madison if gnome-chemistry-utils02:35
ajmitchlet me update first02:36
zulheh better ask later then ;)02:36
ajmitch:P02:37
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minghuaLaserJock: I don't think gnome-chemistry-utils is in debian02:45
LaserJockhmm02:45
LaserJockyou'd think I would know these things better02:46
minghuaI don't have deb-src in sources.list, but my "apt-cache madison gchemutils" shows nothing02:46
LaserJocksince I'm part of the group maintaining it02:46
LaserJockwell, I thought it was supposed to be in Debian now but I couldn't find it in NEW02:47
LaserJockso I thought maybe packages.debian.org just hadn't synced or something02:47
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minghuaLaserJock: check http://<your-favorite-mirror>/debian/pool/main/g/02:48
minghuaand mine doesn't have gnome-chemistry-utils there02:48
LaserJockhm, ok02:49
LaserJockI guess maybe azeem hasn't uploaded it yet02:49
FujitsuLaserJock, it's in NEW.02:49
FujitsuOr it was two days ago..02:49
LaserJockoh02:52
LaserJockDebian NEW?02:52
FujitsuYes, that's what I meant.02:53
FujitsuI believe there was a dependency issue with putting 0.6.0 in Ubuntu.02:53
LaserJockyeah, goffice I think02:54
FujitsuYep, that's the one.02:54
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Lathiatsweet beryl+aiglx with nvidia twinview now does dual head properly03:11
Lathiatmakes it usable03:11
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LaserJockok, stupid question03:28
LaserJockcan I resend a message in Mutt?03:29
LaserJockI messed up the To: address accidently on a lengthy email03:29
zulbounce isnt it?03:31
FujitsuHey Hobbsee...03:32
FujitsuThat NZ guy has been back this morning, twice.03:32
zulhey Hobbsee03:32
Hobbseehey Fujitsu, zul03:33
HobbseeFujitsu: great....03:33
FujitsuHis hostmask is always something like:03:33
Hobbseewhy didnt someone ban him?03:33
FujitsuWonton@219-89-*-*.dialup.xtra.co.nz03:33
FujitsuWho knows.03:33
Hobbseeyeah03:33
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FujitsuBanning the entire subnet can't really be done, but by username as well should work.03:34
Fujitsu+d?03:34
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Hobbseereal name ban03:34
Hobbseeonly problem is that i dont remember how to put it in03:34
Fujitsu`Rootbeer' has been his real name on the past couple of occasions.03:34
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HobbseeFujitsu: remember what his last nickname was?03:37
FujitsuZigGaag.03:37
Hobbseehmmm, yeah03:37
FujitsuBefore that was BloaSE.03:38
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LaserJockimbrandon: heh, nice post04:09
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imbrandonLaserJock: heh , thanks, real thanks to the kind souls ;)04:12
tsenghello dudes04:13
imbrandonheya tseng04:13
ajmitchhi tseng04:13
ajmitchimbrandon: lucky chap04:13
imbrandonyea no doubt, very !04:14
tsengimbrandon: woo new drive04:14
ajmitchgood thing I'd replaced my 160GB drive just before mine died04:14
imbrandonoh man i just thought about something , the only thing i DIDENT have backed up was the ssh key04:15
imbrandoncrap, can you remove that from tiber please ajmitch04:15
ajmitchI suppose I can04:16
imbrandonmany thanks04:16
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ajmitchcleared04:16
imbrandoncool thanks04:16
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imbrandonheh you know the funny part is my laptop ( the machine i'll be on the next while ) is gnome04:21
imbrandonheh04:21
ajmitchit's a sign04:23
imbrandon;)04:23
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Toadstoolheya everybody !04:39
LaserJockhi Toadstool04:44
Toadstoolhey LaserJock04:44
Toadstoolcrap... now my wifi chip can associate with the AP but I can't get a dhcp lease :/ let's try with a fixed config04:47
Toadstool(and welcome to Toadstool's BroadCom adventures...)04:47
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PlugCan I leave a patch in the patches dir for dapper, even if I'm building for edgy, to make backporting easier?04:52
Plug(but not in the 00list, f.ex)04:52
ajmitchsure04:52
LaserJockdarn it, I hate it when I start working on one machine when I was supposed to be working on another04:55
Plugajmitch: if you've uploaded -0ubuntu1, do I now need to increment version #s ?04:59
ajmitchyes05:00
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imbrandonhum ubuntu should have a usplash correct ?05:06
imbrandone.g. not the test card05:06
imbrandonfor some reason i still have the test card on my laptop usplash05:07
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TheMusoimbrandon: Wow thats so cool, and very kind of that person to do so.05:41
imbrandonyea it was super cool05:45
imbrandons/was/is05:45
imbrandon;)05:45
TheMusoHows the ppc cross-compilation coming? Or was that on your dead server?05:54
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LaserJockimbrandon: I think it still might have the test, at least I think mine does05:59
imbrandonLaserJock, test ?06:00
LaserJockusplash06:00
imbrandonTheMuso, it was on the dead server , but fortunately i know how i did it and am writing it up now06:00
imbrandonLaserJock, ahh ok06:01
TheMusoimbrandon: Did you get that compilation problem solved?06:01
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TheMusoCool. Looking forward to it.06:01
imbrandonTheMuso, i should have a rudimentry howto in a hour or so06:01
imbrandonTheMuso, yup yup06:01
TheMusoNice.06:01
imbrandonTheMuso, yea most of it was dep issues06:01
LaserJockimbrandon: btw, I think I've been Thunderbird free for a whole week ;-)06:01
imbrandonLaserJock, nice ;)06:02
imbrandonone sec i'm gonna grab a bite to eat06:02
rmjbhey guys... what package should I file a bug against if my virtual consoles are wack?06:12
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imbrandonre06:29
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imbrandonheya jldugger06:32
jlduggerhey06:33
jlduggeri just installed knot 306:33
imbrandoncool , updated to beta ? heh06:33
jldugger?06:33
jlduggeri did a dist-upgrade afterwards06:34
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imbrandonbeta was just released days ago, yup dist upgrade will do it06:34
imbrandon;)06:34
jlduggersome oddities06:34
imbrandonmoins Burgundavia06:34
jlduggerlike the fn keys dont work06:34
imbrandonhum06:34
Burgundaviahey imbrandon06:34
imbrandonlaptop or deskrop ?06:35
Burgundaviafinally home06:35
imbrandonand kde or gnome06:35
jlduggerlaptop06:35
jlduggerwiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaTecraM706:35
jlduggerim still working down the edgy list06:35
imbrandonBurgundavia, nice, probably good from being on the road, how was ohio ?06:35
Burgundaviacolorado06:35
imbrandonahh06:36
Burgundavia1 - 100 of 151506:36
imbrandonmy mistake i thought you were in ohio too06:36
Burgundaviathat is my inbox06:36
imbrandonwow LOL06:36
jlduggermy gmail inbox has like 4000, but 0 unread06:36
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tuxmaniacHello All. Should sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -u work?06:54
tuxmaniacfor getting upgraded from 6.06 to 6.1006:55
tuxmaniacafter changing sources.list06:55
tuxmaniac:)06:55
tuxmaniacLooks like xorg packages are not getting dowloaded :( But still let me wait till the download is done06:56
tuxmaniacI mean the upgrade06:56
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LaserJocktuxmaniac: update-manager -c -d is the preffered method I think07:04
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LaserJockhah07:11
NthDegreedid you say bitch?07:11
NthDegree:p07:11
LaserJockno07:11
LaserJockthose are 2 different words ;-)07:11
NthDegreeI swear by the end of this week I will have gotten either an edgy or dapper package submitted to universe07:12
minghuabitch: to complain and make unkind remarks about someone or something07:12
minghuaso apparently I am using the right word :-)07:13
NthDegreebitch: female dog, like my pet Star ;-)07:13
NthDegreehehehe07:13
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tuxmaniacLaserJock> hmm.. I have already got some 400 MB dowloaded. Can I now change the command?07:14
minghuaand a pony, too :-)07:14
LaserJocktuxmaniac: sure, if you want07:14
tuxmaniacI mean abort it and type update-manager - -d07:14
tuxmaniacerr -c07:14
tuxmaniacLaserJock> How did you guys do it?07:14
LaserJockdo what?07:15
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NthDegreei just noticed when i'm stupid it stays on the web for years to come lol07:46
rmjbhey, it's me again, going through the packaging guide. I've never used GPG before, is there a page in the guide or somewhere that talks about GPG for packagers? Creating, transporting, publishing, backing up and restoring keys?07:47
minghuarmjb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto07:49
rmjbthanks minghua07:49
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BurgundaviaFujitsu_: I found out why the access died. My roommates unplugged my desktop machine, thinking it was not needed as I was away07:56
Fujitsu_I thought it might have been something like that.07:56
Burgundaviawe have 5 computers and a 4 port router07:56
Fujitsu_That would do it.07:56
TheMusoc08:01
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Q-FUNKcrimsun: thanks for the link on how to request a UVF. :)10:03
crimsunnp10:04
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ajmitchwell, I have sound but not wireless :)10:07
ajmitcheasy fix..10:12
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Q-FUNKerm... in that line about making the diffstat, do they mean against the unpacked tarball?10:15
ajmitchafaik, yes10:15
Q-FUNKthe current line makes it sound as if it was against the tarball itself.10:16
ajmitchI just unpack both into a clean directory & run diff against them10:16
ajmitchprobably needs changed then10:16
azeemLaser_away: g-c-u got rejected because it used the deprecated mozilla-dev10:16
Q-FUNKajmitch: needs an extra step:  "unpack both upstream tarballs, then run:"10:16
Q-FUNKhere, I have never used diffstat and it never crossed my mind whether diff can parse inside tarballs.  hence my question.10:19
Q-FUNKabout the line to include build logs, of the new one only or both?  I'd assume new since the old log is already on the buildd, but better be safe than sorry. :)10:25
ajmitchnew one10:29
ajmitchsince that's the only one you're testing to get in10:29
ajmitchwhat new upstream version are you trying to get in?10:30
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Q-FUNKcups-pdf 2.4.2.  upstream ran his source thru "splint" and remove extraneous COPYING files.10:32
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Q-FUNKotherwise, it's still the 2.4.1 codebase.10:36
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imbrandonheya Hobbsee12:02
Hobbseehey imbrandon12:03
ajmitchHobbsee!!!12:03
FujitsuHi imbrandon.12:03
FujitsuAnd Hobbsee.12:03
tsengwoo12:04
Hobbseehey ajmitch, Fujitsu12:04
Hobbseehi tseng12:04
imbrandonheya Fujitsu12:04
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Adri2000crimsun: ping12:25
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gnomefreakwill the screansavers be updated under gnome-screensavers or another package?12:39
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ajmitchhow annoying, I can't file a sync since it's not in the (debian) pool yet12:50
minghuain the "ping elmo to sync" days, I remember it's possible to sync from incoming?12:54
ajmitchyes12:55
ajmitchbut this package (libnss-ldap) has moved on from incoming as well :)12:55
minghuaoh I see12:55
ajmitchI'm not entirely sure why it's not on ftp.d.o yet in that case12:56
minghuathe mysterious "on the way from incoming to archive" status12:56
ajmitchyes12:56
ajmitchvery irritating12:56
minghuaI've heard about that before, never know what it really is12:56
ajmitcha source of annoyance :)12:56
sivangdo we have a top level meta package for an ubuntu-server ?01:09
sivangor is it essentiall ubuntu-minimal ?01:09
lupine_85!info ubuntu-server01:10
ubotuPackage ubuntu-server does not exist in any distro I know01:10
lupine_85bah, i'm sure that used to exist01:10
sivangyep, that is what I was aiming at01:11
sivangseems to have vanished or removed01:11
lupine_85there's edubuntu-server still01:13
lupine_85very strange01:13
lupine_85!server01:13
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/01:13
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AnAnthow can I regenerate the splash screen ?02:40
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welshbytegood afternoon02:43
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AnAnthow do I this test [ "$1" == "text ]  in dash ?02:49
AnAnt:s/"text/"text"02:49
minghuathat should work in dash AFAIK02:51
AnAntI get: == unexpected operator !02:51
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minghuaoh I missed that02:52
minghuause = instead02:52
AnAntminghua: thanks!02:54
AnAntminghua: btw, you got an idea how to regenerate the splash screen ?02:54
minghuaAnAnt: sorry, no idea at all02:54
AnAntk02:55
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AnAntif $VAR is "foo bar ...02:58
AnAntif $VAR is "foo bar ...", how can I set $VAR1 to be "foo" ?02:58
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lastnode$VAR1=`expr substr "$VAR" 1 3`03:11
lastnodeer, nvm03:11
fbondAnAnt:VAR=$(echo $VAR | sed 's/\([^ ] *\) .*/\1/') should do it03:14
fbondor even easier:03:14
fbondVAR=$(echo $VAR | awk '{ print $1 }')03:14
lastnodefbond, he /parted03:16
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fbondoh03:20
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Q-FUNKslomo: thanks!03:34
slomoQ-FUNK: for...? what did i do? :)03:35
slomoQ-FUNK: ah, cups-pdf? np :)03:38
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bddebianHeya gang05:52
lfittlhey bddebian05:54
bddebianHi lfittl05:54
welshbytehey bddebian05:57
bddebianHeya welshbyte.  Whatcha been up to?05:58
welshbytetoo much stuff :/05:58
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welshbytehelping people move out, helping people move in, preparing for the new university year, being a computer society treasurer, helping out in fresher's week, signing up new members, fixing servers... etc.05:59
bddebianpfft, no Ubuntu work? ;-P06:01
tsengpfft, bddebian06:01
tsenghe doesnt do ubuntu stuff06:01
bddebianHe used to :)06:02
bddebianOr do you mean I don't?06:02
tsengI don't mean anything really06:02
bddebiansuuuure :-)06:03
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jdongbddebian: (azureus) hi (azureus). How (azureus) are you (azureus) doing today? (azureus)(azureus)(azureus)(azureus)(azureus)06:07
jdongbddebian: no, there's no subliminal messaging at work here :)06:07
bddebianhaha, hi jdong06:08
jdong:)06:08
jdonggrr, pdebuild doesn't work with democracyplayer....06:09
jdongsomehow building a *source* archive generates pyc files06:09
bddebianWhat's wrong with that?06:12
tsengand why would you build a source package with pdebuild06:12
jdongbddebian: what's wrong with that is that debdiff doesn't like binaries :)06:14
bddebianOh, maybe I misunderstood that sentence06:14
tsengyou did06:14
tseng:D06:14
slomowhat's democracyplayer?06:15
tsengyeah i hear about it all the time06:15
jdongslomo: some web 2.0 media player type of thing06:15
tsengit looks just like totem06:15
tsengoh06:15
jdongit has a built in torrenter06:15
jdongI guess its media is distributed via bittorrent06:16
slomototem + torrent client = web 2.0? :)06:16
slomodo you have an url?06:16
jdongtseng: pdebuild is a nice and lazy way of sending sources off to pbuilder after mangling the changelog for backporting :)06:16
tsengwell debuild -S will do just fine for sources06:16
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jdongtseng: also fails :)06:17
jdongtseng: pyc's are made by the build script, which debdiff can't represent06:18
tsengare you sure you had a clean source tree?06:18
tsengor something else is f'd06:18
jdongtseng: I just apt-get sourced it... I swear06:18
jdongtseng: I blame it on the package06:18
tsengok then.06:18
tsengfeel free to fix it in edgy06:18
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=== jdong loves the overly dramatic CFLAGS for libxine-extracodecs :)
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=== Hobbsee did the last couple of uploads to that :P
=== slomo created it some time ago... and hates it :P
jdong -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer   -fexpensive-optimizations -fschedule-insns2 -ffast-math -finline-functions06:24
jdongnow does that really make things any faster?06:24
tsengmost of those make a bigger binary06:25
jdongexactly06:25
tsengmore chance of cache miss06:25
tsengif you had a cache miss anyway06:25
jdongand longer compile times06:25
tsengits probably faster than before06:25
slomojdong: it's inherited from xine... and -fomit-frame-pointer is the best thing for debugging stuff on x86...06:26
tsengslomo: haha06:26
jdongslomo: I'm sure -fomit-frame-pointer does wonders in the debugging department :)06:26
jdongdemocracyplayer, debian/rules, "rm -f portable/*.pyc" needs to be "find portable -name *.pyc -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f"06:28
jdongotherwise it misses subdirectory BitTornado/06:28
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jdongwould some kind MOTU soul with upload rights help me out? :)06:28
slomojdong: does this use xine for playback?06:29
jdongslomo: I don't know... never used it06:29
givreDo people know how uuid are set ?06:29
tsenguuid of what?06:29
givrebecause i have some strange ones for my fat partition06:30
givretseng: of device06:30
tsengi think you are talking about libvolumeid06:30
tsengfrom udev06:30
givreUUID=43C0-343B06:30
jdonggivre: that looks like a typical DOS-style volume serial number to me06:30
givreit seams to be a bit short compare to normal uuid06:30
jdongwhat's wrong with it?06:30
jdongis this another case of longer is better?06:31
jdongwell, my vol_id is 10 inches06:31
tsengoh jeez06:31
givrejdong: ok, my bad then06:32
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=== jdong wonders if his xine backports breaks anything
slomooh i guess on a system with a few million partitions it could easily break ;)06:32
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slomojdong: edgy and dapper xine are compatible iirc06:33
jdongslomo: ok, if you say so... I'll do some testing to figure out06:33
jdongwould be nice if they were.... yay for properly working x264 :)06:33
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jdongyeah, looks nice06:35
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jdongdamn do 1024 h264's use a lot of CPU06:36
Shani have a question...06:37
imbrandonjdong, yes ( i thought i explained that a few days ago to you )06:37
Shani'm interested in putting up a ubuntu mirror server in my country... whom do i contact / where can i get more info?06:38
jdongimbrandon: that won't stop me from complaining about it :)06:38
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imbrandonShan, one sec06:38
Shansure06:39
Shancoulnd't get the info on the ubuntu site... where as other distro site's clearly state what to do to run a mirror06:40
imbrandonShan, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+newmirror  and talk to the guys ( and gals ) in #ubuntu-mirror06:40
slomojdong: with latest ffmpeg svn cpu usage of h264 became a lot better06:40
jdongcool06:40
jdongcan't wait to see that benefit propagate down06:40
Shanthanks for the link. nobody is there on #ubuntu-mirror06:41
imbrandonhrm one sec06:41
jdongalready vlc /win32 beats the crap out of quicktime in terms of CPU usage :)06:41
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imbrandonahh Shan #ubuntu-mirrors06:41
imbrandonmy mistake06:41
Shanok thanks06:42
imbrandonnp06:42
jdongslomo: would you have any objections/concerns about a dapper backport of xine-lib + xine-extracodecs?06:42
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imbrandonmight be better to catch them durring the week , most will be idle now Shan06:42
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slomojdong: hm, don't use external ffmpeg for them... but otherwise it should be fine06:43
jdongslomo: it uses external ffmpeg by default, doesn't it? :-/06:43
slomothe package? yes... but dapper's ffmpeg is a bit... old06:44
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jdongslomo: if it did build against dapper's ffmpeg, would there be any regressions compared to dapper's original libxine?06:46
swjanyone know whats going on with gnome-system-tools 2.15.5 and system-tools-backends 1.9.6 not installing?06:46
slomojdong: no but i wouldn't be surprised06:46
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lucashttp://blog.ekiga.net/index.php?p=3208:00
lucasnot really good press about edgy beta08:00
azeemlucas: seb128 has blogged a response already08:01
lucasah, haven't found it08:01
lucas(found it)08:02
Toadstoolgood morning everybody08:13
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LathiatDoes UVF affect new packages?08:58
Lathiat(ISTR it does but just want to check)08:58
BazziRyes08:58
slomoyes08:58
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Lathiatok cheers08:59
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Lathiatcan things be synced from experimental?08:59
BazziRslomo: you might be able to help me, should bugs with software currently not in ubuntu be rejected? (I suspect yes), but what should I tell the bug reporter? to contact upstream?08:59
slomoLathiat: yes09:00
slomoBazziR: if it's software really not in ubuntu and the bug is not something in one of our libraries reject it and tell the reporter to contact upstream, yes09:00
BazziRit's about bug 6340909:01
UbugtuMalone bug 63409 in xorg-server "beryl-manager (under Dapper with ati radeon 9600) refuses after some time to obtain/refresh configuration changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6340909:01
Lathiatyeh unofficial package09:01
Lathiatalso woo at the tag list :)09:01
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slomoBazziR: yes, reject09:02
BazziRdone09:02
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ajmitchmorning10:09
shawarmaajmitch: good evening10:09
ivoksmorning10:09
Toadstoolhey ajmitch10:10
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rexbronis there some one here who can re-sync the REVU uploaders keyring?10:59
ajmitchyes10:59
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rexbronnice10:59
Lathiatahh public holidays11:00
Lathiati love it when these come around11:01
rexbronim curiouse, the wiki page does not state the web address so that we can log in and respond to comments, what is it ?11:05
ajmitchrevu.tauware.de11:06
Lathiathttp://revu.tauware.de11:06
ajmitchfirst link on the wiki page11:06
rexbronty11:08
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lophytehey rexbron11:10
rexbronhey11:11
lophytewhat's up?11:11
rexbronjust got a package uploaded to revu11:11
lophytecool11:11
lophytewhat package?11:11
rexbronksynaptics11:11
rexbronone of the error dialouges gave the wrong info to change your xorg.conf with11:12
lophyteahh11:12
rexbronso i found out what the right stuff was11:12
rexbrontested that it worked11:12
lophyteI had my first package uploaded to universe a week or so ago11:12
rexbronbasically use Option "SHMConfig" "on" of what was there before11:13
rexbronnice on the upload11:13
rexbronwhat was  it11:13
lophytegaim-extendedprefs11:13
lophytea gaim plugin11:13
lophyteI haven't found any more easy-fix packages yet11:13
lophytebrb, the woman is home11:14
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rexbronlol11:20
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rexbronumm, was the key-ring updated, cause im getting auto rejected for lack of uploading rights11:25
ajmitchit was11:26
ajmitchyou are in the launchpad group, and your gpg key is on launchpad?11:26
rexbronYep11:27
rexbronill confirm11:27
ajmitchyour name on lp?11:27
ajmitchrexbron: make sure you're uploading to revu, and not to ubuntu11:29
rexbronill check that11:29
rexbronthat was the problem11:30
ajmitchok :)11:31
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crimsunAdri2000: pong11:49
Adri2000crimsun: have you seen that in fact there are two different bugs in vlc?11:49
crimsunAdri2000: that's not obvious11:50
crimsunand in fact I'm fairly certain the earlier is related to the latter11:50
crimsunlater, even11:50
Adri2000maybe, but as the crash is not reproducible, it won't be easy to know11:51
crimsunin e-mail conversation w/ Jean-Baptiste, the segfault is supposed to be fixed in 092811:52
crimsunif it's not fixed in the backported fixes from 0925, I'll pull from 092811:52
crimsunI spent six hours last night stripping cruft just to backport those fixes11:53
Adri2000ok11:54
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