[12:01] <omegacat> so plz if anybody could help, i would really appreciate it =(
[12:01] <gnomefreak> omegacat: were those questions?
[12:01] <Rasta> someone has installed rails here? i see in synaptic that drapper by default has ruby 1.8.2/1.8.4 but in the terminal i can use it to check version and install the gems, any advice on this?
[12:01] <Xenguy> omegacat: it takes patience; it could just be hardware compatibility issues; does the live cd work for you on this PC?
[12:01] <PFA> has anyone ever used an HP photosmart 7450?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> PFA: i think i have that model
[12:02] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  odd.. my emachine laptop did linux very well.. too bad the laptop broke.. you may need to disable that apci, or apic options with 'noapci' 'noapic'
[12:02] <PFA> gnomefreak: did it work well?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> PFA: its upstairs atm
[12:02] <gnomefreak> PFA: yes
[12:02] <PFA> gnomefreak: that's good! thanks
[12:02] <gnomefreak> plug in set up and poof
[12:02] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  also may want to google for that specific brand/make laptop and other linux users with same thing. they may have some workarounds
[12:02] <green_earz> takuhii: the 3Com 3c905C   is a very common ether card > example > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3COM-PCI-Network-Card-10-100-NIC-3C905C-TX-M-Tested_W0QQitemZ260035495468QQihZ016QQcategoryZ51195QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[12:03] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[12:03] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:03] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:03] <Boboc3l> hello all
[12:03] <omegacat> Dr_willis i saw that other ppl have the wifi issue but I don't know how to do ndiswrapper things.
[12:03] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  Ive not messed with wireless much at all.. so cant help ya with that.
[12:03] <omegacat> Xenguy I have ubuntu installed on it
[12:04] <skaos> !ndiswrapper
[12:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:04] <omegacat> gnomefreak I have a USB mouse that does not work
[12:04] <takuhii> green_earz: yeah I may take a trip to staples if I can't find any positive information in the ubuntu wiki
[12:04] <omegacat> i plugged it in, and i rebooted
[12:04] <omegacat> and it still does not work
[12:04] <waxfactor2nd> how can i make dual boot with win xp and ubuntu / im a newb
[12:04] <Xenguy> omegacat: right - I just mean that the live CD is a good way to test for hardware compatibility before deciding to do an install
[12:05] <omegacat> Xenguy: heh, is there a diffenernt distro i should use?
[12:05] <takuhii> alright, well the replacement card I have here, it's a netgear FA311, and it says it's supported
[12:06] <takuhii> so we'll see how this goes
[12:06] <takuhii> be back in the time it takes to swap a card
[12:06] <warlock__> p
[12:06] <omegacat> Xenguy: so it just won't work, you think?
[12:06] <Xenguy> omegacat: I've only really ever used Debian and Ubuntu for quite some time
[12:06] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  may want to try out some live cd's
[12:07] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  its possible the ohci/uhci modules are not getting loaded right.
[12:07] <Xenguy> omegacat: I can't say whether your problem can be fixed or not - sorry
[12:07] <Dr_willis> Time to get into trouble shooting mode.
[12:07] <Abst> Anyone know a X config file beginning with options like WINDOWMANAGER_*?
[12:08] <waxfactor2nd> how can i make dual boot with win xp and ubuntu / ive tried first installing windows hdd 0 partition 1 (10gb), then ubuntu /(20gb) , /home(20gb), swap (2gb) and now i get an grub error 22 when i boot / cant get in anything / how can i make it work / im a real newb
[12:08] <omegacat> what will live CDs do that in installing it didnt?
[12:08] <omegacat> I installed from the live CD?
[12:08] <AngryElf> !digital
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digital - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <AngryElf> !alsa
[12:08] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:08] <AngryElf> !spdif
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spdif - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <waxfactor2nd> ...anyone?
[12:08] <LjL> !msg the bot
[12:08] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:09] <totall_6_7> !usb headset
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb headset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <totall_6_7> !usb
[12:09] <green_earz> takuhii: ok
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  try OTHER disrto Live cd's , or IF the ubuntu live cd works..  thats a start in troubleshooting
[12:09] <omegacat> ok
[12:10] <Abst> Anyone know a X config file beginning with options like WINDOWMANAGER_*?
[12:10] <omegacat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[12:10] <minerale> Ok, i'm on a school computer, someone's locked the main screen. I want to start a second x server, and it works fine (by ding X :2) but I can't start any programs, how can I start a second x server and launch firefox in it ?
[12:10] <LjL> Dr_willis: she *installed* from the live cd, i think
[12:10] <omegacat> i have that
[12:10] <omegacat> i don't understand why it doesn't install?
[12:10] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to get digital sound working?
[12:10] <Abst> !cheese
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <thelsdj> is there a default simple way to push windows around the screen with keyboard?
[12:11] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  i rember my Emachind 68010 being a little flakey in some linux areas as well.
[12:11] <waxfactor2nd> anyone who knows the answer...
[12:11] <waxfactor2nd> how can i make dual boot with win xp and ubuntu / ive tried first installing windows hdd 0 partition 1 (10gb), then ubuntu /(20gb) , /home(20gb), swap (2gb) and now i get an grub error 22 when i boot / cant get in anything / how can i make it work / im a real newb
[12:11] <Dr_willis> but i no longer have it.. so i cant help ya a whole lot in the specifics
[12:11] <AngryElf> waxfactor2nd, let the Ubuntu install repartition your HD automatically
[12:11] <skaos> waxfactor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:11] <omegacat> Dr_willis:  6810?
[12:11] <buzzygirl> Hello!
[12:12] <waxfactor2nd> angryelf / how
[12:12] <Abst> !x
[12:12] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:12] <AngryElf> it's one of the options
[12:12] <waxfactor2nd> ahh sry
[12:12] <waxfactor2nd> thx
[12:12] <Xenguy> thelsdj: try this: Alt-F7 Shift-Up (or Shift-Down)
[12:12] <buzzygirl> Anyone here using Edgy
[12:12] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  somthing like that..  big emachine laptop :)
[12:12] <takuhii> green_earz: the new card totally works, thanks for telling me those commands to see if it was
[12:12] <doopidub> hey guys
[12:13] <thelsdj> Xenguy: nice, thanks!
[12:13] <Xenguy> thelsdj: yw
[12:13] <lampshade> buzzygirl: check out #ubuntu+1  that's for the edgy people
[12:13] <conner> buzzygirl, I'm on edgy.
[12:13] <doopidub> i got write access on my ntfs partition, but i am still not able to delete some files
[12:13] <Xenguy> thelsdj: Shift-right etc. works also
[12:13] <doopidub> do you know this issue?
[12:13] <thelsdj> yep, and enter seems to end
[12:13] <doopidub> i do rm -rf as root
[12:13] <omegacat> Dr_willis Yes! That is what I have =)
[12:14] <Rasta> ok, something weird happened here, in the drapper install i checked in synaptic and i saw ruby installed but it cant be usable until i installed it with aptitude, the same can be happening with other packages?
[12:15] <CountDown> exit
[12:15] <mipstien> i can not get direct rendering turned on... i finally got nvidia drivers to uninstall and reinstall but i can't seem to cause anything to change .... any ideas? would you like to see my xorg.conf?
[12:15] <CountDown> oops
[12:16] <green_earz> takuhii: no problem and all the best for your jourey into the linix world
[12:16] <AngryElf> anyone here know how to troubleshoot digital sound not working?
[12:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> If anyone has write permission problems they should press alt+f2 and type in gksudo nautilus
[12:18] <totall_6_7> thanks Sktfeelsdapper i didnt know about that :D:D
[12:18] <jrib> Sktfeelsdapper: that's not really the best solution
[12:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah I know.
[12:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it worked for me!
[12:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> <---mounted second hd, changed permission, storing files as we speak.
[12:19] <jrib> Sktfeelsdapper: it's probably better to actually fix the permissions when you mount
[12:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well I rebooted and such and haven't had problems.
[12:19] <totall_6_7> Sktfeelsdapper: i did the same thing only i went into command prompt and did sudu natilus
[12:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> Eh, I'm sure something will come up.
[12:19] <totall_6_7> exact with the hd
[12:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> But that's what's so fun about Ubuntu.
[12:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> It keeps me on my toes!
[12:22] <mipstien> i can't get direct rendering turned on ... this is my xorg.conf file and it use to work at one time... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25354/
[12:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> XMMS: Beck - Loser
[12:23] <doopidub> yeah
[12:24] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: have you got your torrent client setup yet, is use BitTornado  and for music while you linux learn : streamtuner
[12:24] <THX-1138> Direct rendering  = the DRI module.
[12:24] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: sorry  i use not is use
[12:24] <THX-1138> not suew if any other module is needed to support dri itself. -
[12:25] <THX-1138> !display
[12:25] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:25] <THX-1138> !nvidia
[12:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:25] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: sudo aptitude install streamtuner
[12:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> streamtuner?
[12:25] <mipstien> i just got nvidia drivers uninstalled and reinstalled and fixxed
[12:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> !nautilus
[12:25] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gksudo
[12:26] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[12:26] <THX-1138> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xoeg
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> WTH is streamtuner?
[12:26] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: sudo aptitude show streamtuner
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> !streamtuner
[12:26] <ubotu> streamtuner: A GUI audio stream directory browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.99-5ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 581 kB, installed size 2064 kB
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is it good for music?
[12:27] <mike456> can anyone help with "vsftp", trying to set up virtual users through guide.. but no luck
[12:27] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: and aptitude show streamripper
[12:27] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is it good though? Haha
[12:27] <THX-1138> Yes, you will like  it for music. there is also streamripper to record music from  internet radio.
[12:30] <mike456> Anyone know how to set up Virtual Users with VSFTP?
[12:30] <AngryElf> is there a dpkg-reconfigure for the soundcard/ALSA settings?
[12:30] <AngryElf> a la xserver-xorg?
[12:30] <thelsdj> mike456: never done it myself, i usually just make real users with shell of /bin/true or something
[12:31] <omegacat> can i do like this guy to make my mouse work? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-249063.html - in my xorg.conf the wacom stuff isn't commented out and the touchpad i think is just the generic mouse driver not synaptics. If i copy what that guy did will it totally break my shit?
[12:32] <mike456> thelsdj: Yeah, would be nice with virtual users though
[12:32] <radar1976> where is a changelist for edgy
[12:32] <radar1976> 6.10
[12:33] <kjm> for beta1?
[12:33] <radar1976> yes
[12:33] <green_earz> mike456: here a link for a howto for vsftpd   http://www.brennan.id.au/14-FTP_Server.html   i have not seen one for a virtual user setup
[12:34] <omegacat> ok, i will try it and come back and cry in like 10 minutes when neither my mouse nor touchpad work.
[12:34] <ompaul> radar1976, have you gone to #ubuntu+1 ?
[12:34] <radar1976> will do now
[12:34] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> That's kinda cool streamripper.
[12:34] <ompaul> !it
[12:34] <kjm> radar1976 : a good start is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[12:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> I guess I should just stick to what I know for now.
[12:35] <mike456> thelsdj: Thx, reading
[12:35] <lukas> cpufreq-info claims, hardware limits are from 800mhz to 1,73ghz. but it only switches between 1,33 and 1,73ghz. how can i set the limits?
[12:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want to get nicotine to work, but i install it and it closes down when i start it right away.
[12:36] <the_dennis> Hi there! Can anybody help me to install compiz on 6.06? I've problems during apt-get for package compiz.
[12:36] <radar1976> I found the notes
[12:36] <radar1976> thanks kjm
[12:36] <kjm> cool, np
[12:36] <radar1976> just wished I could get appletouch to work properly
[12:37] <kjm> radar1976 - I've never had good luck getting it going on my iBook.  But, always use a external mouse anyways so never looked into it to much.
[12:37] <omegacat> My xorg.conf has Load "dri" in the modules section and that guys (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-249063.html) has Load "evdev" - should i take out my "dri" and put in "evdev"?
[12:38] <radar1976> well thats what is stopping me from using ubuntu full time
[12:38] <omegacat> (I have no idea what these things are or what they do btw.)
[12:38] <NutsOfSteel> if i have a script file owned by the user "backup" and cron needs to run that file as the user backup, what do i need to do? I vaguely remember having to use the "setuid" command or something...
[12:38] <radar1976> that and airport extreme
[12:38] <kjm> thank broadcom for that one
[12:38] <radar1976> yeah
[12:39] <omegacat> Anybody: My xorg.conf has Load "dri" in the modules section and that guys (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-249063.html) has Load "evdev" - should i take out my "dri" and put in "evdev"?
[12:39] <b_52Centos> do you know how to enable writing in arabic under terminal and graphic session ?
[12:39] <pinky> Anyone got an Atheros wifi card (especially with a MacBook/Pro) that wasn't working with Dapper (specifically had to update madwifi-ng)
[12:39] <green_earz> the_dennis: run the command " sudo aptitude update "  to update the package list,
[12:40] <the_dennis> green_earz: isn't aptitude update the same as "apt-get update" ?
[12:41] <GStubbs43> Hey, just wondering, does anyone here use gnome and KDE? (sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop) Or would that probably break my computer? :)
[12:41] <PacketScan> GStubbs43, go for it.
[12:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ok, so I stopped all sounds in system > pref > sound
[12:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it's still playing them when I switch folders
[12:41] <kjm> GStubbs43 - I've installed kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop with out any problems.
[12:41] <gnomefreak> GStubbs43: its fine
[12:41] <PacketScan> i've got gnome, kde, fluxbox installed and a few others.
[12:41] <kjm> GStubbs43 - so dive right in.
[12:42] <gh0st> hello, i've got "Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage XL"" oin my xorg.conf, but i have an nvidia!
[12:42] <mike456> thelsdj: Thanks anyways, virtual users in VSFTP is a nono for me =)
[12:42] <GStubbs43> cool, thanks
[12:43] <mariano_> anybody did bittorrent over ssh? My ISP is 'slowing down' my torrents downloads
[12:43] <kjm> GStubbs43 - one thing with installing kubuntu-desktop - it will ask you if you wish to use gdm or kdm for graphical login.  It is probably safer to keep with GDM.  But, kdm probably works just fine as well.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> kjm: kdm works fine
[12:43] <kjm> okee dokee
[12:44] <fredrik> I have a wireless pc card with the chipset of Atheros Com. AR5212 802.11 abg.NIC, and i can not configure this, is there any one that know how to set it up and can help me out. I am new to linux as well
[12:44] <GStubbs43> yeah, on Dapper I used GDM so I'll ptobably just stick with that...
[12:44] <crazy_penguin> Good night to everyone!
[12:44] <THX-1138> G'nite
[12:45] <green_earz> the_dennis: yes
[12:47] <fredrik> is there any one that can help
[12:47] <omegacat> I am trying to set up a USB mouse on an emachines 6810 with dapper - it does not work. At all. plz help?
[12:48] <ghost_> what's the default driverin xorg.conf for ati (without 3d etc...)?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> omegacat: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:49] <omegacat> ty gnomefreak am trying that now
[12:49] <nameless_> help :\
[12:49] <feugan3333> fredrick: Found this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[12:49] <gnomefreak> omegacat: make sure you choose "ExplorerPS/2
[12:49] <fredrik> i need help to set up my pcmcia card for my laptop, it has a chipset:Atheros Communications AR5212, i neeed help
[12:49] <nameless_> someone can help me ?
[12:49] <nameless_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/zcsiUL87.html
[12:49] <ghost_> what's the default driver in xorg.conf for ati (without 3d etc...)?
[12:50] <Rasta>  by default ruby 1.8.x comes installed but if in the terminal i do a "ruby -v" i get a "command not found message" so i have to install it with apt-get and then ruby works on the terminal, any ideas why this happens?
[12:50] <ompaul> feugan3333, fredrik  that would be a bit out of dayte
[12:50] <ompaul> !ndswrapper > fredrik
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndswrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <omegacat> gnomefreak: omg how much memory is to be used by my video card?
[12:51] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper > fredrik
[12:51] <tjb891> if i want to use bittorent do i have to edit iptables first?
[12:51] <ompaul> fredrik, check the message from ubotu
[12:51] <kjm> omegacat - what kind of video card do you have?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> omegacat: i left mine blank but that depends ont he memoery of your card
[12:51] <ghost_> please anyone: how can i reconfigure my xorg.conf?
[12:51] <nameless_> could someone help me ?
[12:51] <omegacat> its an ATI something
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ghost_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:51] <ompaul> ghost, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:52] <ghost_> for nvidia and ati?
[12:52] <kjm> omegacat - if you are unsure - leave it blank.
[12:52] <omegacat> gnomefreak: i can try leaving it blank?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> omegacat: on the box it will tell you. just leave it blank if you dont know
[12:52] <kjm> ghost_ for either.
[12:52] <omegacat> thx kjm
[12:52] <ompaul> !ati > ghost_
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul got anything for a fever?
[12:52] <ompaul> !nvidia > ghost_
[12:52] <kjm> g'night everyone
[12:52] <ompaul> gnomefreak, rest
[12:52] <feugan3333> ompaul: There are newer versions of the madwifi driver, why use ndiswrapper?
[12:52] <jrib> gnomefreak: lemons and honey
[12:52] <ompaul> !timetable > feugan3333
[12:53] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm that sounds good
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ty jrib
[12:53] <DebianZealot> muhahhaha
[12:53] <ompaul> DebianZealot, na
[12:53] <ghost_> ompaul: i've got a big problem after installing nvidia-glx, i can't get no xserver, onlky command line. what can i do. since i didn't backup the old one?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ghost_: choose nvidia in the drivers section of your xorg.conf
[12:53] <ompaul> ghost_, so this time choose nv driver and then go at it again after x starts
[12:53] <nameless_> i've got a problem with my printer
[12:53] <ghost_> i did
[12:53] <nameless_> :E
[12:53] <omegacat> gnomefreak: yes or no to "Use kernel framebuffer device interface" - it has no selected, but it says enabling it is the safe bet, but that you can turn it off if it causes problems?
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, Im doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and I've reached the point where it asks the amount of ram my video card has.  Although its asking in kbs? I know what it is in 128mb anyone know what this is in kbs
[12:54] <gnomefreak> omegacat: yes
[12:54] <ghost_> ompaul: i did, too
[12:54] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you don't need to enter values for that
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: cheers mate
[12:55] <DebianZealot> FreeFox, ReallyOpenOffice, FreeKDE, FreeLinuxKernel - A preview of the Debian apt repository of the future.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: it will use the memory the card alows most of time without you putting in anything
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: use kernel framebuffer? yes no
[12:55] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:55] <nameless_> ....
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: thx
[12:55] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, at this stage you should know to ask the channel :P
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ;)
[12:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> !psychoseek
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psychoseek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Speedator> hi. need the notgraphical installer vor edgy beta. without livecd. should i try the servercd? or is this only for server?
[12:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> !nicotine+
[12:56] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[12:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it doesn't work for me :(
[12:56] <DebianZealot> Soon Debian won't run on real computers but only in BOCHES because real computers aren't free.
[12:56] <ghost_> after installing nvidia-glx i got Ati in driver description, !!???
[12:56] <gnomefreak> install java
[12:57] <ompaul> nameless_, you click on system administration printing and work on it there
[12:57] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: do I put "uk-qwerty" <- like that for keyboard variant
[12:57] <feugan3333> ompaul: What has a timebased release got to do with the madwifi driver?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> DebianZealot: please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you must talk about debian
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: i leave them blank
[12:57] <nameless_> ompaul: doesn't work
[12:57] <nameless_> i have to compile this http://rafb.net/paste/results/zcsiUL87.html
[12:58] <ompaul> spoilsport had +Q
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: I would never have known... gota do alot more reading
[12:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> nicotine keeps trying to open up and then closing real quick.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: after screwing it up for 3 years it becomes second nature to pick the right ones :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: install java
[12:58] <ompaul> nameless_, what kind of printer have you got?
[12:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> java what for?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> nicotine
[12:59] <OH-DAE> ?\(?_o)/? <( desu desu desu desu desu desu desu )
[12:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> i have java installed i'm pretty sure.
[12:59] <nameless_> epson stylus color 680
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: what about mouse "ImPS/2" or "ExplorerPS/2" I have an optical 3 button mouse
[12:59] <nameless_> i use ubuntu 6.06 with xfce
[12:59] <nameless_> http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Color_680
[01:00] <gnomefreak> OH-DAE: dont spam
[01:00] <ompaul> nameless_, #xubuntu will help there
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ha
[01:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm pretty sure I have Java installed already.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: make sure its set to system wide
[01:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I do that?
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: what about mouse "ImPS/2" or "ExplorerPS/2" I have an optical 3 button mouse
[01:00] <gnomefreak> explorer
[01:00] <omegacat> gnomefreak it is a laptop not a CRT - should I do simple, medium or advanced to slect my monitor characteristics?
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[01:01] <OH-DAE> defora hardcore
[01:01] <CrippsFX> yeah!
[01:01] <gnomefreak> omegacat: either or
[01:01] <OH-DAE> fedora hardcore
[01:01] <omegacat> gnomefreak!!!! it is started working!
[01:01] <gnomefreak> omegacat: good :)
[01:01] <omegacat> And I am not even done yet!
[01:01] <omegacat> ilu so much!!!!
[01:01] <nameless_> i don't think it depends from version of *ubuntu
[01:01] <nameless_> :E
[01:01] <caimex> I setup gnump3d perfectly, but when I reset my computer it says the port is in use, so I change the port. If I reset again it'll say its in  use again, so I have to switch it every time I reset, help :)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:02] <ghost_> ok i finally got my nvidia drivers working :-)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ty omegacat
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[01:02] <ompaul> nameless_, you have been told that #xubuntu is there - why not ask the experts in that?
[01:02] <ghost_> how can i know if 3d acceleration is enabled for nvidia?
[01:02] <Paddy_EIRE> excellent stuff gnomefreak :)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> nameless_: just like omegacat thought his mouse would work
[01:02] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:02] <ompaul> ghost, play chromium
[01:02] <CrippsFX> I apologize for that troller ... he uses the Fedora name in vain.
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ghost_: glxinfo
[01:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> gnome how do i set it system wide?
[01:03] <Sktfeelsdapper> it's also nicotine 1.0.8 or whatever.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:03] <caimex> I setup gnump3d perfectly, but when I reset my computer it says the port is in use, so I change the port. If I reset again it'll say its in  use again, so I have to switch it every time I reset, help :)
[01:03] <ghost_> gnomefreak: is it "direct rendering"? and how can i know my FPS (approx.)?
[01:03] <omegacat> gnomefreak: i have a 15.4 in widescreen, i think... it autoselect 17 in in the simple setup, should i say ok?
[01:03] <Sktfeelsdapper> then what
[01:03] <gnomefreak> ghost_: does it say direct rendering yes?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> omegacat: yeah
[01:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> will it effect firefox if i do this, or anything else?
[01:04] <ghost_> gnomefreak: yes
[01:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> it's on selection 3 right now.
[01:04] <ghost_> hope it's good
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ghost_: you have 3d
[01:04] <ghost_> :-)
[01:04] <ghost_> gnomefreak: how can i know my FPS (approx.)?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ghost_: glxgears -printfps will give you fps rate (its not a benchmark
[01:04] <fdoving> caimex: check what is using the port with 'sudo fuser -v portnumber/tcp' where portnumber is the number of the port.
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: i cant see what #3 is
[01:05] <omegacat> ilu sooo much gnomefreak!!! yay!
[01:05] <jadrifter> Hello.  I've got to be missing something obvious.  Running Ubuntu Breezy on a Dell Insprion Laptop.  Would like to use an external monitor.  Any good how-to's out there?  All I find are people having trouble with this.  I'd like to be able to switch back and forth without restarting X or the computer.
[01:05] <caimex> ok
[01:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> it says /usr
[01:05] <CrippsFX> gnomefreak, isn't there also the --this-is-not-a-benchmark  option? ;)
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: give me the numbers part
[01:05] <ghost_> gnomefreak: do i have to reconfigure my nvidia card when i buy a new screen?
[01:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> slash usr slash lib slash j2se slash 1.4 slash bin slash java
[01:05] <gnomefreak> CrippsFX: ick but yes without the -
[01:06] <gnomefreak> ghost_: no but you might want to change the settings for monitor
[01:06] <CrippsFX> gnomefreak, ah, right. heh. I just find that flag funny :P
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: why didnt you install 1.5
[01:06] <Sktfeelsdapper> um...
[01:06] <coax> does anyone know how to add folders to the "Places" menu??
[01:06] <Sktfeelsdapper> i think i got it from easy ubuntu
[01:06] <Sktfeelsdapper> i've tried "installing" this crap before on my own and don't know the first thing about what I'm doing.
[01:07] <waxfactor2nd> hi now ive installed windows as partition 1 on hdd and then ubuntu with use largest amaunt free space, but when i boot it says grub error 22 before i can choese what to boot. i want it to dual boot. how can i fix it?? btw im a total newb
[01:07] <jadrifter> coax - Drag and drop works
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin is too hard?
[01:07] <Sktfeelsdapper> haha i guess not, but i never knew i could do that
[01:07] <gnomefreak> or better yet sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[01:07] <Kojim1> Hey
[01:07] <tobyaustralia> what do I use to upgrade wine with a downloaded package 0.9.20?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> plugin will bring in -bin and -jre
[01:07] <skipper> hello, how could i add these repos to my ubuntu dapper amd64: http://ubuntu.moshen.de/. What should i write in sources.list?
[01:07] <Kojim1> I'm having trouble changing the permissions for the root folder
[01:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> it says it's already the latest version.
[01:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> when i just did that.
[01:08] <PFA> does anyone know how to get flash working in Opera? there is no sound and on Youtube it stops playing after 2 seconds
[01:08] <gnomefreak> !seveas > Sktfeelsdapper
[01:08] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:08] <gnomefreak> !seveas skipper
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seveas skipper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <gnomefreak> damn
[01:08] <hondje> Sktfeelsdapper: You'll have a far better experience if you spend some time looking into how apt-get and it's GUI front-end Synaptic work
[01:08] <gnomefreak> !seveas > skipper
[01:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm getting how apt-get works
[01:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> so how do i set it system wide for now?
[01:10] <omegacat> gnomefreak: I am still using the install as it was from the CD, no software updates, should I let it update the xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-input-mouse like it wants to, or will that break my nice freshly working mouse?
[01:10] <CrippsFX> if I was to run an *x86.run installer script on amd64, would 1)the installer work and 2)I be able to play the game ?
[01:10] <waxfactor2nd> hi now ive installed windows as partition 1 on hdd and then ubuntu with use largest amaunt free space, but when i boot it says grub error 22 before i can choese what to boot. i want it to dual boot. how can i fix it?? btw im a total newb
[01:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> The options are
[01:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> 1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[01:11] <skipper> gnomefreak: how would you add these repos (for ubuntu dapper amd64): http://ubuntu.moshen.de/. What should i write in sources.list? Thanks
[01:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> 2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[01:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> 3        /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java what it's set on right now
[01:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> 4        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:13] <caimex> sudo fuser -v *port*/tcp tells me that gnump3d is using the port but its not listed in ps -e
[01:13] <CrippsFX> skipper, if you wanted to add that repo, yes, it would be to your sources.list ... you should run it as such: sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.moshen.de >> /etc/apt/sources.list" ;   or, there should be documentation on the website of how to add the repo
[01:13] <tobyaustralia> Ive been given the advice to upgrade WINE to 0.9.20. The repository fails using the sources.list command "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main"
[01:13] <tobyaustralia> Any ideas why? or how to download the .deb file an just run an upgrade?
[01:14] <CrippsFX> skipper ... wait, there's a syntax error in that command: sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.moshen.de" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:14] <Paddy_EIRE> what's a good way of testing if my Graphics card is performing fully from a default ubuntu install
[01:14] <Paddy_EIRE> I have the feeling the "ati" driver was better for my comp than the "fglrx"
[01:14] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, glxinfo |grep "direct rendering:"
[01:15] <Rasta> mysql comes installed by default on dapper drake?
[01:15] <anon32> HELP
[01:15] <skipper> CrippsFX: i got this: bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[01:15] <Rasta> !mysql
[01:15] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[01:15] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, no dount. "ati" is far more stable than fglrx ... unfortunately, there's no 3d acceleration for modern cards (newer than radeon 9000) without fglrx
[01:15] <anon32> I need help installing drivers for my Winmodem
[01:15] <Paddy_EIRE> CrippsFX: this is what I got patrick@patrick-desktop:~$ glxinfo |grep "direct rendering:
[01:15] <Paddy_EIRE> >
[01:15] <CrippsFX> skipper, then you left out the "sudo" part at the beginning
[01:15] <gnomefreak> omegacat: you will be fine
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> CrippsFX: i have a radeon 9250
[01:16] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, that's because you didn't close the double quotes
[01:16] <skipper> CrippsFX: no :-)
[01:16] <anon32> I have them downloaded, but I need someone to translate the install script...
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> oops
[01:16] <anon32> :-(
[01:16] <anon32> please help
[01:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> gnome?
[01:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> Did you get all that?
[01:16] <ompaul> !modem > anon32
[01:16] <CrippsFX> skipper, well, if it's giving you that error message, and you didn't foget "sudo" then you have a far more serious error on your hands.
[01:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> gnomefreak or whatever his name is.
[01:16] <ompaul> anon32, read the message from the bot
[01:16] <gnomefreak> what?
[01:17] <anon32> ompaul: that's utterly unhelpful
[01:17] <Paddy_EIRE> CrippsFX: how do i load the backup "xorg.conf" i want to use that again... i actuall think that supported direct rendering
[01:17] <anon32> I need help getting the drivers to install
[01:17] <godtvisk1n> I want to remove my windows harddrive, which is hda, but it contains the master boot record. how can i put the master boot record on hdb, which is my ubuntu drive?
[01:17] <caimex> sudo fuser -v *port*/tcp tells me that gnump3d is using the port but its not listed in ps -e, how do I kill gnump3d?
[01:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I make it system wide? Gnomefreak?
[01:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> It shows I have it installed.
[01:17] <scuzball> ok im a complete noob and i need somebody to help me
[01:18] <fdoving> caimex: 'sudo fuser -vki *port*/tcp'
[01:18] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: choose the newest one 1.5 if its there in dapper it is there
[01:18] <ompaul> anon32, utterly - why ?
[01:18] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, just go into /etx/X11/  and rename the current xorg.conf to xorg.conf.1 or something like that, and rename the backup to xorg.conf, then restart your x-server (ctrl+alt+bkspace)
[01:18] <anon32> ompaul: because my problem involves drivers and an install script
[01:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ok I'm using the 1.5 one.
[01:18] <skipper> CrippsFX: how could i ad the repo manually anyway? (gedit)
[01:18] <AshyIsMe> is anyone here using expocity?
[01:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Still no nicotine though.
[01:18] <ompaul> anon32, the bot gave you this URL: Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto which defines how you deal with those horrible devices
[01:18] <scuzball> can somebody who is willing to help out a complete noob, pm me?
[01:19] <anon32> when I run the install script, I just get a ton of bash errors
[01:19] <Paddy_EIRE> CrippsFX: can i do that with "gksudo nautilus" for handyness
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> i've installed it but it has a bit of a problem
[01:19] <ompaul> anon32, where did you get that install script from?
[01:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> gksudo nautilus is VERY handy
[01:19] <CrippsFX> skipper, run gedit as sudo, and add the line "deb <URL>" to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:19] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, don't see why not
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> when i hit alt tab, the shrunken windows appear on the screen but they shake constantly
[01:19] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[01:19] <skipper> CrippsFX: and that's all, nothing *after* it?
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> and i can't select a window to raise
[01:19] <Renan_s2> !info geda
[01:19] <ubotu> geda: GNU EDA -- Electronics design software. In component universe, is optional. Version 20050820-1 (dapper), package size 86 kB, installed size 384 kB
[01:19] <anon32> ompaul: err... forgot the url...
[01:19] <scuzball> please?
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> brb
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want soulseek sooooooo bad
[01:20] <n0rus> Help. Needed. I have a NAT. I can ping for example google.com but when I'm trying "telnet google.com 80", I get no reply on the client machine. How to allow this in iptables?
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> it won't woik.
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> Sktfeelsdapper, use nicotine
[01:20] <CrippsFX> skipper, to tell you the truth, I'm not 100% sure ... I think that you *should* have "dapper main" after it, but I'm not 100% on that.
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> THATS WHAT I"M TRYING TO DO!
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> hahaha
[01:20] <ompaul> anon32, the way you do ubuntu is with the ubuntu docs .. they are https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto  you might find it useful
[01:20] <CrippsFX> AshyIsMe, I did ... but I quit smoking.
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> Sktfeelsdapper, in the settings, you have to make up a username and password
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> CrippsFX, heh, same
[01:20] <skipper> CrippsFX: concretely, on this site, is it http://ubuntu.moshen.de/  or http://ubuntu.moshen.de/dists/dapper/ i should add for my dapper amd64? thanks
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> I can't even get it to load up.
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> CrippsFX, about day 8 now
[01:20] <anon32> stop giving me that link!
[01:20] <brohan> Hey, I've ran into a little skanak here.. I've backed up my laptop's home dir (I did an edgy update and decided to go back.. to reinstall).. I accedentally overwrote the .Xauthority file.. and I'm having issues
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> Sktfeelsdapper, oh
[01:21] <CrippsFX> AshyIsMe, me too :P
[01:21] <brohan> Anyone know xauth commands?
[01:21] <anon32> I've read it and it doesn'thelp
[01:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> I click on it, it looks like it's going to start and then disappears.
[01:21] <ompaul> anon32, well use it and tell me where it fails for you
[01:21] <AshyIsMe> CrippsFX, haha
[01:21] <skipper> does anyone know: do i have to add "dapper main" after each repo i add in sources.list?
[01:21] <scuzball> i have a hd with ntfs file system that wont give me permission to access it.. please help?
[01:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know what happened since yesterday but I can't even get 1.0.8 to run.
[01:21] <anon32> ompaul: what about the part where it completely skips over installing drivers?
[01:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> And lord help me if i ever try to install stupid nicotine+ ever again.
[01:22] <ompaul> anon32, what part of identifying your correct driver does it fail at
[01:22] <CrippsFX> skipper, not sure. you'd have to ask the repo maintainer.
[01:22] <godtvisk1n> I want to remove my windows harddrive, which is hda, but it contains the master boot record. how can i put the master boot record on hdb, which is my ubuntu drive?
[01:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> I need some help with stupid nicotine plus srsly bad.
[01:22] <anon32> ompaul: I have my correct driver, it's binary, but I can't use the install script that came with it
[01:23] <scuzball> please i need help. i am a complete noob
[01:23] <CrippsFX> godtvisk1n, just install grub onto hdb ... read the man page on how to do that. Then you should be able to remove hda ... except then hdb might become hda ...
[01:23] <CpuWhiz> ok, so i enable this site, no config errors, but for some reason all my SSL sites stop working - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25358
[01:23] <CpuWhiz> what is wrong with this picture?
[01:23] <ompaul> anon32, where did you get the binary from, and how was it identified as the correct one?
[01:23] <tjb891> I am running bittornado right now and i am only odwnlaidng, is there a way to tell my computer to sleep and use less power and still download?
[01:24] <CrippsFX> tjb891, I don't think so.
[01:24] <AshyIsMe> tjb891, if i shut the lid on my laptop it turns my wireless nic off.   it's the most annoying thing
[01:24] <anon32> identified by scanmodem, the URL  escapes ne
[01:24] <godtvisk1n> CrippsFX: so then i would have to edit fstab, right?
[01:24] <CrippsFX> godtvisk1n, nope.
[01:24] <tjb891> thats what i thought thx anyway?
[01:24] <Ciaus> tjb891, the amount of power a computer uses is negligible.....if you are concerned turn off that crt
[01:24] <skipper> CrippsFX: it does not work like that, should i add dapper main or something?
[01:25] <CrippsFX> godtvisk1n, you would have to edit your grub.conf
[01:25] <godtvisk1n> CrippsFX: why not? if hdb became hda, wouldn't fstab look for the wrong hdd?
[01:25] <tjb891> and by the way does anyone know if a crt pulls more power than a lcd
[01:25] <ompaul> anon32, okay so scanmodem told you what the actual card was - which one did it report?
[01:25] <CrippsFX> skipper, I don't know.
[01:25] <Ciaus> tjb891, yup
[01:25] <tjb891> alot or a little more?
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> previously when i did "glxinfo |grep direct" I got direct rendering : yes, now i get know how can I tell ubuntu to use the default driver it put in from fresh install
[01:25] <anon32> ompaul: Intel 537EP
[01:25] <CrippsFX> godtvisk1n, second thought, some fstab editing may be in order, but you would definitely need to edit your grub conf
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> *no
[01:25] <anon32> I can DCC you the scripts if that'll help
[01:27] <godtvisk1n> CrippsFX: where is that? i can't find it in /boot/grub
[01:27] <anon32> I love how the doc says to use apt-get to download MODEM drivers
[01:27] <harisund> Does anybody know how I can stop xChat from giving me the 'nick has quit (Read error)" or "nick has timed out" error messages. I couldn't care less for them, really.
[01:27] <anon32> if I could do that, I wouldn't need the blasted drivers
[01:27] <scuzball> Hello. I am a complete newbie. Please PM me if you would like to help me
[01:27] <ompaul> anon32, looking at the first couple of google hits for that - they are really, really Ugly - give me 10 mins to find a cleaner way to do it
[01:28] <CrippsFX> anyways ... I'm outta here v... cheers.
[01:28] <anon32> I need an automated script as I'm a noob
[01:28] <harisund> any ideas anyone?
[01:28] <anon32> and if I need my kernel source, a download link would be nice
[01:28] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how I can use the default drivers ubuntu assigned my grfx card on fresh install as I manged to disable direct rendering
[01:28] <geocritter> Is there a known problem with the new Edgy beta, or am I just having a run of bad luck (can't get the install to boot)
[01:29] <scuzball> please somebody help me
[01:29] <anon32> edgy is entirely beta software, if it doesn'twork, that's because it's beta
[01:29] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  what was the driver it was using befor?
[01:29] <Dr_willis> !ask
[01:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:29] <scuzball> i have
[01:29] <Stevo> scuzball> what do you need help with?
[01:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: it was the default "ati" one
[01:30] <Dr_willis> so i can scroll up and hope to find it....  :P
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  edit the xorg.conf and chagne the driver line back to ati
[01:30] <scuzball> i need to access files in a ntfs hd that i dont have premission to access
[01:30] <Stevo> if you don't have permission, you can't access.
[01:30] <PFA> does anyone know how to get flash working in Opera? there is no sound and on Youtube it stops playing after 2 seconds
[01:31] <anon32> !flash
[01:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <scuzball> but its MY hard drive.. on MY computer
[01:31] <hondje> lol
[01:31] <hondje> I never saw someone take permissions personally before :)
[01:31] <Stevo> lol
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: i have already and restarted X using ctrl+alt+backspace and when i do glxinfo |grep direct i get Direct rendering : no, previously this was yes
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: oops
[01:31] <anon32> it doesn't work because Flash support for Linux ends at 7
[01:32] <eRadic8r> anyone have a working xorg.conf file for a dell inspiron 8100 w/nvidia geforce 2go 32mb graphics card?
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: before i did what i said previoulsy i changed the line back to ati
[01:32] <Stevo> i presume you're using linux to try to access this ntfs partition?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  im not sure how your dri is related to changeing that at all.. check the config file - there may be some other dri line/setting that got changed
[01:32] <PFA> anon32: so how come other people have working flash
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: what should i be looking for
[01:33] <anon32> PFA: they don't try to play newer flash videos
[01:33] <anon32> anyone know how to get write access to ntfs
[01:33] <mipstien> i can't get direct rendering turned on ... this is my xorg.conf file and it use to work at one time... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25354/
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  im guessing a line with 'dri' mentioned in it.
[01:33] <PFA> anon32: i have no sound at ALL no matter how old the video is
[01:33] <Dr_willis> !dri
[01:33] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: what will I do with this line? I have found it
[01:34] <anon32> bah. try GNASH
[01:34] <anon32> the adobe version scks
[01:34] <Dr_willis> be sure its on. :P  and not commented out I guess.. i cant say that ive ever had to mess with dri when using the fglrx drivers
[01:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: it says "Section "DRI" Mode	0666
[01:34] <PFA> anon32: who me?
[01:34] <ethos_> quick poll: which torrent program do "you" like most...
[01:34] <ompaul> anon32, do this sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` << I'll be back and writing to ntfs may break your ntfs in ways you would not like better to read but not write to
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  check for a   Load    "dri"
[01:35] <octan> !tmpfs
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tmpfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <Dr_willis> ethos_,  wine utorrent.exe
[01:35] <mipstien> anon32, look up ntfs-3g it works fine
[01:35] <anon32> ompaul: gee... if I could use apt-get I wouldnt need a modem
[01:35] <octan> does ubuntu use tmpfs ?
[01:35] <anon32> *duh*
[01:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: yeah its there
[01:35] <PFA> octan: ext3
[01:35] <mipstien> i can't get direct rendering turned on ... this is my xorg.conf file and it use to work at one time... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25354/
[01:35] <Dr_willis> mount shows ->  devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> anon32: download what you need from packages.ubuntu.com save it to usb stick than install it on your ubuntu pc
[01:36] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  other then that no clue...  how are you proving its on or off?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> anon32: your here so you have a net connection :)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> doesnt have to be on same pc
[01:36] <octan> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[01:36] <octan> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[01:36] <anon32> gnomefreak: at this point, I must ask what exactly I need to download :-(
[01:36] <ethos_> Dr_willis:ya utorrent is good, although I have never used it on linux, im sure it's even better...
[01:36] <octan> thouse?
[01:36] <knasman> I just installed mplayer to play a DVD and I'm getting the error "failed to open dvd://1".  What do I need to do?
[01:36] <beavis_> anyone know about a good tutorial for wpa tkip?
[01:36] <eRadic8r> anyone have a working xorg.conf file for a dell inspiron 8100 w/nvidia geforce 2go 32mb graphics card?
[01:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: by doing "glxinfo |grep direct", ... perhaps i need to restart the entire comp?
[01:36] <ompaul> anon32, no ethernet?
[01:37] <anon32> the last guy's instructions were rather cryptic
[01:37] <octan> what does the tmpfs do ?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  i think so..  you have modules loaded that need tog et unloaded
[01:37] <anon32> ompaul: well, if Ihadethernet, I wouldn'tneed a modem
[01:37] <ompaul> anon32, and that -- can be done with the CD cos that stuff is on the CD
[01:37] <anon32> sorry, spacebar broken
[01:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: brb :)
[01:38] <octan> what purpose has /dev/shm ?
[01:38] <ethos_> one question.  Has anyone heard of someone installing their video card driver through wine? does anyone think it is possible?
[01:39] <anon32> ompaul: what will those instructions do?
[01:39] <anon32> also, which CD? I have the dapper 6.06 liveCD
[01:39] <benguin> hi there
[01:39] <benguin> is this a good place to ask an Edgy question?
[01:40] <alex222> how do you record your desktop?
[01:40] <Ciaus> !ask
[01:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:40] <alex222> as a screencas
[01:40] <benguin> lol okay..
[01:40] <benguin> is there an issue with nvidia drivers ?
[01:40] <anon32> anyone know what "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-'uname -r'" does?
[01:40] <ompaul> anon32, well it will grab the headers files and isntall them - I have just gone through the help.ubuntu site and while I refrain from saying read it I will say it says how do to
[01:40] <Asymmetry> benguin, if by issue you mean it breaks after a reboot, say so
[01:41] <ompaul> anon32, I told you it installs your kernels headers
[01:41] <Rasta> someone can tell me where the htdocs/www folder is after a apache2 install with synaptic?
[01:41] <benguin> I have a 7600GS card AGP card, and I did a clean install of Edgy beta. It seems that agp is not being initialized.
[01:41] <anon32> ompaul: link and instructions? sorry, bad latency
[01:41] <Asymmetry> anon32, that is what that does. uname -r substitutes the kernel version in its place
[01:41] <Normal> My new computer(on the way) will have two 250Gb Hard drives. Does anyone have any recommendations on how much space to allocate for /main, /swap, /home, etc(I hope that's right)?
[01:42] <Asymmetry> Normal, i just go with a single filesystem for everything
[01:42] <gnomefreak> anon32: what is output from uname -r
[01:42] <Flight_Should> hi everybody
[01:42] <benguin> Asymmetry, i still get X, with nvidia as the driver in xorg.conf but no glx acceleration
[01:42] <knasman> Rasta: if you mean the docroot then /var/www
[01:42] <Kirby904> hey guys, whats the command to be room when using terminal
[01:42] <anon32> swap should be 1.5x RAM
[01:42] <Flight_Should> anyone using eciadsl for usb modem connection to the internet ?
[01:42] <Asymmetry> anon32, not necessarily.
[01:42] <anon32> everything else should be one partition
[01:42] <Kirby904> root*
[01:42] <Kirby904> be root* in terminal
[01:42] <xplic1t> sudo
[01:42] <Kirby904> oh ok thanks
[01:42] <gnomefreak> anon32: install linux-headers-2.6.xx-xxx
[01:42] <anon32> ok
[01:42] <Normal> Thank you!
[01:43] <Flight_Should> with eciadsl and usb modem i get to connect and when i download a big file then i get disconnected
[01:43] <gnomefreak> anon32: replaces the xx-xxx with your kernel version from the output of uname -r
[01:43] <Asymmetry> Since when should swap be 1.5 times your ram?
[01:43] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25362/   can someone please look over my xorg.conf and help me fix this problem that my direct rendering is not working?
[01:43] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25362/
[01:44] <anon32> ompaul: so, can I get a link to instructions?
[01:44] <Rasta> knasman, found, now when i try to use mysql with "mysql -u root" i get a "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" error i know that the service isnt rinning but how i can install it as a service?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> good idea to double your ram up to 1 gig
[01:44] <gnomefreak> for swap
[01:44] <beavis_> anyone know a tutorial for setting up  wpa tkip for the wireless connection?
[01:44] <anon32> Asymmetry: well, if your RAM is less than 2G, you should have 1.5x swap
[01:44] <ompaul> anon32, that one even mentions your modem so - I guess you could print it prepare for it and have a stab at it  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:44] <Asymmetry> anon32, Why?
[01:45] <Asymmetry> anon32, Don't just give advice without knowing the justification for it.
[01:45] <ompaul> anon32, so write it out
[01:45] <anon32> :-\
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: nice one Direct rendering YES :) , the line change to ati and the restart did it. I also uninstalled did "sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx" for good measure...and tidyness
[01:45] <anon32> ok then, thanks a lot
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> hi ive never used linux before, but everyone have to start at one point. ive chosen ubuntu to try, but i want to dual boot with windows xp. ive done as ive been guided, first installed windows xp on hdd 0 partition 1, then ive taken ubuntu and taken use the largest continuous free space and installed it. there where no problems. but when i now reboot my computer,it says grub loader 1.5
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> grub loading
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> grub error 22
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> before i can choose windows or linux.. now i dont know what i shall do.. can someone help me. im trying to install ubuntu 6.06lts for pc, and i have a amd atlhon 64 3700+, a8n-sli premium, 2gb ram, and two 250gb spinpoints (sata) (both linux and windows have to go on the first one.)
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> how shall i do??
[01:46] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, that sounds like it's unable to locate the grub config file when it boots.
[01:47] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, the best idea is to reinstall ubuntu, and instruct it to install the grub loading code into the mbr of hd0
[01:47] <waxfactor2nd> i dont know what that means
[01:47] <eRadic8r> is there a ubuntu nvidia graphics help channel possibly?
[01:47] <waxfactor2nd> ive reinstalled it 3times / but how can i instruck the grub loading code in the mbr??
[01:47] <stu__> not likely, although ppl in #ubuntu-xgl will have experience with nvidia gfx
[01:48] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, from what I know of the dapper installer, it should do it automatically
[01:48] <eRadic8r> ok thanx stu_
[01:48] <waxfactor2nd> k but i doenst work
[01:48] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, the fact that the grub loader is indeed loading is a good sign - i'm not sure why it cant find the config file
[01:48] <[A] ndy80> oh my god :)
[01:48] <[A] ndy80> just tried Xgl+Beryl
[01:48] <waxfactor2nd> do you know how i can fix it??
[01:48] <[A] ndy80> it's amazing!
[01:49] <gnomefreak> [A] ndy80: xgl and beryl dont run together
[01:49] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, give me a secon
[01:49] <waxfactor2nd> k
[01:49] <ompaul> !xgl
[01:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:49] <Intangir> i have a postscript file i need to print, i cant seem to get the network shared printer (shared off a windows XP computer) to work
[01:49] <Intangir> i cant print off of it
[01:49] <[A] ndy80> gnomefreak: I'm running them right now
[01:49] <Intangir> and the window computer cant open postscript files
[01:49] <gnomefreak> [A] ndy80: beryl has no use for xgl
[01:49] <waxfactor2nd> ive heard a bit about lilo but i dont know how i can use it if i cant boot it
[01:49] <ompaul> [A] ndy80, it is not stable software for dapper which is release so we don't do it here, but great it works for you, it may not work for others
[01:49] <gnomefreak> xgl cant be used with beryl iirc
[01:50] <[A] ndy80> iirc?
[01:50] <ompaul> if I recall correctly
[01:50] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, pm me, let me see if I can't help you out
[01:50] <[A] ndy80> beryl is a fork of compiz!
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> what is a pm??
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> sry but im a nwb
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> newb
[01:50] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, private message
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> kk
[01:51] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25362/   can someone please look over my xorg.conf and help me fix this problem that my direct rendering is not working?
[01:51] <[A] ndy80> gnomefreak, ompaul : please read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[01:51] <ulfar> !multimedia
[01:51] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:51] <knasman> !dvd
[01:51] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:52] <waxfactor2nd> asymmetry / how do i do it
[01:52] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, do you have the livecd version of ubuntu?
[01:52] <AshyIsMe> [A] ndy80, what card do you have?
[01:52] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, enter: /msg <nick> <msg>
[01:52] <[A] ndy80> AshyIsMe: nvidia geforce 5200 go
[01:52] <gnomefreak> [A] ndy80: Prior to installing Beryl, you need 3d-rendering support and XGL.  is wrong
[01:52] <[A] ndy80> on a toshiba laptop
[01:52] <eXSiR> mipstien, disable Load "dri" line
[01:52] <AshyIsMe> [A] ndy80, i thought xgl only worked for one of the ati cards
[01:53] <ompaul> [A] ndy80, I asked you to leave that to #ubuntu-xgl it is not for here
[01:53] <mipstien> exsir i have tried that and i just added it last reboot to attempt to fix it..... everyone keeps tellin me the opposite
[01:53] <[A] ndy80> gnomefreak: if I don't run Xgl, beryl does'n work
[01:53] <waxfactor2nd> it says no suck nick or chanel
[01:53] <AshyIsMe> [A] ndy80, join #ubuntu-xgl with me
[01:53] <eXSiR> i know that no need for dri
[01:53] <mipstien> exsir but its gone now.... any other ideas
[01:53] <gnomefreak> thats because your on dapper and beryl wasnt really made for dapper
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[01:53] <waxfactor2nd> dohh
[01:53] <ladydoor> does anybody know what module(s) ubuntu uses for networking?
[01:54] <skar> hi all, is there a konsole replacement for gnome, with the tabbed xterms and also reordering of the tabs?
[01:54] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, enter what I tell you: /msg Asymmetry whatever here.
[01:55] <eXSiR> mipstien, check out mine   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25364/
[01:55] <waxfactor2nd> now ive openden a other window
[01:55] <Asymmetry> So type in that.
[01:55] <waxfactor2nd> ive wrote can you see this
[01:56] <jrib> skar: gnome-terminal?
[01:56] <mipstien> exsir what is i2c?
[01:57] <waxfactor2nd> asymmetry are you there??
[01:57] <eXSiR> not sure, it is my default config setting
[01:57] <mipstien> should i use the stuff at the bottom too?
[01:57] <eXSiR> try it
[01:57] <mipstien> k
[01:57] <mipstien> brb
[01:57] <waxfactor2nd> asymmetry are you there??
[01:57] <skar> jrib: hmm it needs alt+1 etc instead of alt-arrow keys as in konsole, u need 2 hands to type alt+1 unless the num pad is also used, also reordering the tabs is not supported
[01:58] <jrib> skar: the shortcut keys can be changed (I think), reordering of the tabs wfm
[01:58] <skar> jrib: is there a way to reassign the key binding for shift left and right tabs for gnome-terminal and also have tab reordering? i need several tabs all the time :(
[01:59] <ulfar> im trying to look at a video (from Reuters news) and Mozilla says additional plugins are required to play this (unknown plugin) and when mplayer starts "playing" all i see is "Playing: some/url/file.asf"
[01:59] <ulfar> anyone know what plugin is missing?
[01:59] <jrib> skar: let,s do one thing at a time.  Can't you drag the tabs back and forth with your mouse?
[01:59] <Phuzion> ulfar:  That's because it's a Windows file, ASF is for Windows Media
[01:59] <jrib> skar: you can even drag between windows (I am on edgy though, so maybe it's a new feature that isn't in the dapper version)
[01:59] <Phuzion> I am not sure whether or not there is a plugin available for Linux
[02:00] <beavis_> anyone know a tutorial for setting up  wpa tkip for the wireless connection?
[02:00] <kozmic> when i start a browser (firefox or opera), with no plugins (checked about:plugins) and no extensions, my load goes up to 5.00.. and higher if i run it longer than 1 minute. Anyone have any clue what may cause this? everything else runs just fine on my system.
[02:00] <jrib> skar: edit > keyboard shortcuts, should let you assign the keys you want
[02:00] <ladydoor> !wireless>beavis
[02:00] <ladydoor> !wireless > beavis_
[02:00] <skar> jrib: wfm -> works for u, so tab reordering already works?
[02:01] <jrib> skar: yes, ctrl-shift PageUp seems to be the default keyboard shortcut for that, but dragging with the mouse should work as well.  Is this what you mean by tab reordering?
[02:01] <beavis_> ladydoor, thanks , i read that already , the tutorial thats the is not detailed enough for me
[02:01] <Intangir> how do i print on Linux
[02:01] <Intangir> i have nEVER gotten printing to work on linux
[02:01] <Intangir> ubuntu makes it looks simple but.. it doesnt work!
[02:01] <Intangir> ive tried two printers
[02:02] <hondje> Intangir: CUPS
[02:02] <Intangir> i just connected this one directly and nothing
[02:02] <Intangir> what do i do with cups, and if i already have dapper do i already have it?
[02:02] <hondje> Intangir: Did you check linuxprinting.org to make sure that they're supported?
[02:03] <Intangir> it had a driver
[02:03] <Phuzion> Intangir:  Did you install the driver?
[02:03] <Flight_Should> i have some problems with eciadsl can someone help?
[02:03] <ulfar> Phuzion: could it be java or something? because i remember playing videos from reuters in my prior installation
[02:04] <thenetduck> would anyone be willing to help me get xgl/compiz install and running on my computer? ? I all ready have 3d acceleration ...
[02:04] <Phuzion> ulfar: ASF is a WIndows Media video format
[02:04] <Intangir> Phuzion: i selected it
[02:04] <Phuzion> Specifically streaming, so you'd need an ASF plugin
[02:04] <skar> jrib: hopefully yes, let me see into this, thanks for the tip though :)
[02:04] <Phuzion> However, I'm pretty sure that no plugin exists
[02:04] <omegacat> hello again, any help with bcm43xx-fwcutter? I am trying to make my wifi work - have a BCM4306
[02:05] <hondje> Intangir: What driver?
[02:05] <ciaron> how do i view my mysql logs?
[02:05] <jrib> skar: np, and good luck :)
[02:05] <ciaron> the server's that is
[02:05] <hondje> printer, etc
[02:06] <Flight_Should> i have some problems with eciadsl can someone help?
[02:06] <NuKe_MaNia> Flight_Should: what is problem
[02:07] <skar> jrib: cool, that was it, it works for me, thanks once again, konsole was a drag from inside gnome, now terminal is REAL fast :)
[02:09] <eXSiR> mipstien, is it ok or check this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218233&highlight=enable+direct+rendering+nvidia
[02:09] <mipstien> it is not ok :(
[02:10] <eXSiR> are u using XGL?
[02:10] <mipstien> no
[02:10] <eXSiR> look at the link pls, same problem and solution
[02:14] <mipstien> brb lemme try this again exsir
[02:14] <thenetduck> if i uninstalll fglrx and install the open source driver for my ati card , witll that still be considered "3d accelerated??
[02:14] <Mau> hi! im trying to play doom3 with the path .x86.run dont works well...audio do not play well...
[02:14] <eXSiR> k
[02:14] <omegacat> hai, i need help with bcm43xx-fwcutter - specifically which driver to download for my BCM4306 and the "Extract the firmware parts and install them to the correct location." - looking at the doc here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[02:14] <ciaron> where does mysqld log to by defaut?
[02:14] <eXSiR> doom 3 has a problem, u should use latest patch
[02:14] <jmac__> Compiz ? When I drag a window from one desktop to another it seems to shift the application up instead of placing it in the same position on the next desktop. Any ideas why?
[02:14] <eXSiR> some googling will help u, Mau
[02:15] <ciaron> the config says mysqld errors goto syslog but i can't see anything
[02:15] <newbi3> how can i install glibc 2.4.x on ubuntu? i cant find the packages with synaptic or apt-get
[02:15] <Mau> hi! im trying to play doom3 with the path .x86.run dont works well...audio do not play well... the graphics are slow too
[02:16] <Mr_Scorpio> Hello, I'd like to know why I can't used 32bit Depth and why all my applications and icons are so humongous. I'm at my highest resolution.
[02:16] <newbi3> Mau: http://www.nixcoders.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=317
[02:17] <Mau> thanks
[02:17] <eXSiR> Mau first install your grafic card driver and enable direct render than use doom33_1.3.1302-multilanguage.run pacth to solve sound issue
[02:17] <Mau> hunm
[02:18] <nnutter> Is there a way to use Ubiquity in text mode? I am trying to install Edgy Eft Beta but Ubiquity keeps not going forward.
[02:18] <Mau> i will try this!
[02:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> is there a soulseek or nicotine room?
[02:18] <nnutter> Weird thing is that Dapper does the same thing but Dapper has installed fine in the past.
[02:19] <newbi3> can someone tell me if its possible to install glibc 2.4.x on ubuntu?
[02:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> !soulseek
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soulseek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <jrib> nnutter: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[02:19] <nnutter> OK
[02:19] <nnutter> jrib: thanks
[02:19] <mipstien> it did not work exsir
[02:20] <eXSiR> :(
[02:20] <newbi3> !glibc
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <eXSiR> i am not an expert, this is all i can do
[02:20] <newbi3> !help
[02:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:20] <alex222> ubuntu !
[02:20] <mipstien> thank you exsir !
[02:20] <eXSiR> your welcome
[02:21] <newbi3> !info glibc
[02:21] <ubotu> Package glibc does not exist in any distro I know
[02:21] <omegacat> also, my output from lspci and lspci -n is exaclty what is shown here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:21] <hondje> newbi3: Yeah, but you'd need to make a totally different toolchain unless you cared to encounter some seriously weird issues.
[02:21] <kitche> newbi3: if you want to do that you will have to redo your whole system since things will break
[02:22] <newbi3> well, i need some libraries like libopcodes,ld-linux,libbfd
[02:22] <newbi3> i cant find them with synaptic or apt-get
[02:23] <omegacat> and also i am reading this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114922 but it is over  my head.
[02:24] <hondje> newbi3: I really, really wouldn't recommend you play with glibc :) Perhaps you want to look into binutils
[02:24] <kitche> omegacat: you having problesm with bcm43xxx?
[02:24] <aliendream23> hello, I cannot get my video players to play vcd's when I enter them into a rom, help?
[02:25] <newbi3> hondje: okay then.. what should i do with binutils? i have them in my system.
[02:25] <Mr_Scorpio> How can I use 32bit color depth. I can only use 24 right now.
[02:25] <Mr_Scorpio> ?
[02:25] <newbi3> but i dont know how to "play"
[02:25] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, thats kind of equivalent
[02:25] <eXSiR> 32 is microsoft's color depth, in fact 32 bit is 24 bit :)
[02:25] <oxygene_> you get 8 bits for each RGB color channel either way
[02:26] <hondje> newbi3: binutils-dev: usr/lib/libopcodes.so binutils-dev: usr/lib/libbfd.so libc6: lib/ld-linux.so.2
[02:26] <oxygene_> the 32 bits is just for padding
[02:26] <oxygene_> (8 bits of them
[02:26] <Mr_Scorpio> Hmm, well okay. Then can someone tell me why all the icons in applications are so huge in ubuntu?
[02:26] <hondje> newbi3: So, I'd suggest installing binutils-dev and libc6 :)
[02:26] <Mr_Scorpio> I'm at my max resolution 1440x900
[02:27] <eXSiR> change ur screen resolation Mr_Scorpio
[02:27] <newbi3> Well okay, i am going to do it right now. thank you :)
 whats hugh
[02:27] <hondje> oh, and apt-file so you can apt-file search <filename>
[02:27] <easytiger> *huge?
[02:27] <newbi3> i hope i ll not have more problems after it
[02:27] <Mr_Scorpio> My icons in my applications.
[02:27] <oxygene_> you mean the applications-menu?
 have tyou a screenshot?
[02:28] <easytiger> 1440x900 is my resolution too. perhaps
[02:28] <Mr_Scorpio> Like my bookmarks list in firefox in windows only reaches 3/4 of the way while in linuxi it goes off the screen.
[02:28] <newbi3> hondje: i have them in my system. i didnt need to install
[02:28] <newbi3> the problem exist, and i dont know what to do.
[02:29] <kitche> newbi3: what problem?
[02:29] <newbi3> i cant compile a source code
[02:29] <aliendream23> I cannot get totem or vlc to play my vcd's, totem sais there is no plugin for the location (my rom drive), vlc just fails, help?
[02:30] <newbi3> make: *** [ghf/libghf.a]  Error 2
[02:30] <newbi3>  this is the error i am getting.
[02:30] <kitche> newbi3: why due to you missing those three things? and that's not really an error newbi3 it usually before that
[02:30] <ardchoille> !easysource
[02:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:31] <LjL> newbi3: indeed, there is no such thing as a libghf anywhere in the ubuntu repos, as far as i can see
[02:31] <anon32> ompaul: I got the error "file /boot/vmlinux.autoconf.h does not exist"
[02:31] <omegacat> kitche: Yes, I am trying to set it up on my laptop
[02:31] <newbi3> What do you suggest me? you all know better linux than me
[02:31] <kitche> LjL: libghf.a is part of the source code for the thing he is compiling
[02:31] <newbi3> And i really dont know which is the next step i have to do.
[02:31] <LjL> newbi3: what's the entire error? (pastebin, don't flood)
[02:31] <aliendream23> "there is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie" when I put in vcd discs, how do I fix this, please?
[02:32] <newbi3> OKay
[02:32] <newbi3> I ll post now
[02:32] <Deramin> anyone know of a Java compiler for ubuntu? Using Anjuta to write the code
[02:32] <anon32> help! does anyone know what /boot/vmlinux.autoconf.h is?
[02:32] <Mr_Scorpio> Okay I'll be back with screenshots.
[02:32] <anon32> deramin: gcj
[02:32] <kitche> omegacat: well it does work out of the box but if you use the native drivers then you need your driver.inf and a programm called bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:32] <Deramin> anon32: where can I find it?
[02:32] <anon32> don't know
[02:33] <ompaul> anon32, you are far to quick to ask a second time, what were you doing at that time, in ubuntu thjere is no such thing it is: /usr/include/linux/autoconf.h
[02:33] <J> I need help
[02:33] <ompaul> !ask
[02:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:33] <anon32> ompaul: I ran make 537
[02:33] <anon32> it gave me that error, I think it's a dist problem
[02:33] <ompaul> anon32, had you made the symlink?
[02:34] <anon32> *problem with distro
[02:34] <newbi3> http://pastebin.ca/187356 there :)
[02:34] <anon32> ompaul: huh??
[02:34] <J> I need to put something into the root folder but it says im not the owner but im the only user
[02:34] <Dr_willis>    /usr/include/linux/autoconf.h     - is what i got. :P
[02:34] <eXSiR> J, try sudo before with your copy or move command
[02:34] <ompaul> anon32, in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto there is: Update (2006-Jan-11 - RicardoChavez):
[02:35] <J> whast sudo
[02:35] <anon32> mm, I'm using a different package
[02:35] <Dr_willis> but i made a link from the linux dir to the kernel source dir.. for some program. vmware i think needed it
[02:35] <eXSiR> like "sudo cp filename"
[02:35] <omegacat> kitche: out of the box? My wifi doesn't work, I have installed bcm43xx-fwcutter, following directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 but I am stuck at how to figure out which driver I am supposed to download from in the readme, and I don't understand what it means by "Extract the firmware parts and install them to the correct location" - I don't know how to extract them - i
[02:35] <omegacat> s that what fwcutter does? And i don't know what the correct location is supposed to be.
[02:35] <omegacat> sry, that was really long.
[02:35] <ompaul> anon32, what do you mean by package?
[02:35] <eXSiR> sudo is super user command to use super user commands :)
[02:35] <anon32> ompaul: if I send you the script,can you help rectify the problems?
[02:35] <lupine_85> ...does sftp have a "continue" option?
[02:35] <anon32> ompaul: I'm using a different source
[02:35] <lupine_85> erm, for "get", I shold say
[02:36] <J> but where do i find it
[02:36] <LjL> newbi3: perhaps you need to install "libelfg0-dev"
[02:36] <oxygene_> J: you are not using a console, are you?
[02:36] <J> wah?
[02:36] <oxygene_> do you use nautilus to copy or move files?
[02:36] <J> what do you mean by console
[02:36] <LjL> !cli
[02:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:37] <newbi3> LjL: i will do it.
[02:37] <lupine_85> powerful == potentially dangerous, of course :)
[02:37] <Renan_s2> !info gobby edgy
[02:37] <ubotu> gobby: collaborative text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 2040 kB
[02:37] <ompaul> anon32, I asked you to use the ubuntu instuctions, as they are for ubuntu, I am not interested in outside suggestions until I have something broken and defined as broken in ubuntu, because a lot of care and attention has gone into ubuntu's docs so I like to know where our advice falls down, not where someone elses does, so really you are not on about what we do there I suppose.
[02:37] <kitche> omegacat: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:37] <J> i tried to move it in the folder
[02:37] <anon32> ompaul: my sources are more recent
[02:38] <oxygene_> J: you will probably break your system if you want to access the root folder without knowing the linux basics
[02:38] <newbi3> LjL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH! NOW I COMPILED THE PROGRAM REALLY BIG THANX.
[02:38] <ompaul> anon32, if your sources are more recent you are not using the stable version of ubuntu, so therefor you are on unsupported software
[02:38] <newbi3> i was trying days
[02:38] <ompaul> !shout
[02:38] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:38] <LjL> newbi3: you're welcome... but please don't shout ;)
[02:38] <eXSiR> J, in linux u only have ur home directory,for root and other sub directories u need to be root, so u have to use sudo command before your normal command
[02:38] <newbi3> i installed 1049494949494 useles things without result :(
[02:38] <J> ok lemme tell you what i need to do then
[02:39] <anon32> ompaul: um... no, this is the last stable version of the driver sources
[02:39] <newbi3> but thank you again:D
[02:39] <newbi3> heheheh
[02:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> I got nicotine to work!!!
[02:39] <newbi3> bye bye! have a nice chaT!
[02:39] <LjL> newbi3: well, then you'll want to hear the rationale behind my suggestion...
[02:39] <LjL> apparently, not
[02:39] <oxygene_> that's sad
[02:39] <cipher|> is there currently a way to install the cgwd package?
[02:39] <LjL> well, he did thank me in caps
[02:40] <Fjodor> lupine_85: wrt to sftp continue, the basic client sucks. You should use lftp or similar instead, and with that, you can easily continue
[02:40] <rodrigo> hello
[02:40] <bur[n] er> cipher|: cgwd's been replaced by beryl... join #beryl
[02:40] <Fjodor> lupine_85: With reget <file>
[02:40] <lupine_85> ah... thanks :)
[02:40] <cipher|> burner: isnt beryl also the replacement for compiz?
[02:40] <bur[n] er> cipher|: emerald is the cgwd replacement rather
[02:40] <kitche> bur[n] er: no it's been replaced by Emerald which is cgwd just renamed
[02:40] <Mr_Scorpio> Okay here is my windows side.
[02:40] <Mr_Scorpio> http://filelabs.net/my.php?file=desktopwinsT1p.jpg
[02:40] <ompaul> anon32, stablity is obtained by using materials that are known to work together,  that is why I refered you to timetable, you are mistaking us for gentoo or some such
[02:41] <rodrigo> helllo
[02:41] <Mr_Scorpio> Hi.
[02:41] <rodrigo> hello mf
[02:41] <rodrigo> algien habla esapol???????????
[02:41] <ompaul> !es
[02:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:41] <J> how would i get my file in the root folder without damaging my computer
[02:41] <anon32> ompaul: err.......
[02:41] <anon32> I'm just saying , can you at least try to help me?
[02:41] <ompaul> anon32, we have ways of doing things I asked you a few times to work with me on that
[02:41] <lupine_85> J: what is the file, why does it need to be in /, and what do you mean by damage?
[02:42] <lupine_85> just having a file sat there is cluttered,but won't kill anything
[02:42] <anon32> I'll get the ones mentioned in the docs too, but I'd like to use the new drivers
[02:42] <anon32> please, at least try?
[02:42] <cipher|> the problem is yesterday i installed edgy + glx + compiz + xgl  and all just works fine. i just need to find a nice theme for compiz ... :(
[02:42] <Mr_Scorpio> hello did someone see my screenshot/
[02:42] <Mr_Scorpio> ?
[02:42] <rodrigo> whats????? tree
[02:42] <LjL> ompaul: how can you refuse
[02:42] <J> they said if i dont know how to use the root folder i could damage my computer
[02:42] <oxygene_> i think he is afraid because of me saying that he will probably break his system when doing superuser things without any knowledge about linux basics ;)
[02:42] <ompaul> LjL, based on time alone
[02:43] <J> and the file is a java file
[02:43] <omegacat> kitche: sry, yes, that is the one i am stuck on... Links to various drivers come with the package. View them via
[02:43] <omegacat> zless /usr/share/doc/bcm43xx-fwcutter/README.gz
[02:43] <omegacat> and pick one to download. Extract the firmware parts and install them to the correct location.
[02:43] <lupine_85> Fjodor: is lftp for ssh?
[02:43] <J> so i can install sun java
[02:43] <lupine_85> it doesn't seem to be picking up my public key
[02:43] <omegacat> I don't know what driver to get from the list, how to extract it, or where to put it.
[02:43] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, well. the ubuntu part would be more interesting
[02:43] <Fjodor> lupine_85: You can lftp sftp://user@host
[02:43] <lupine_85> K: so why does it ned to go in /
[02:43] <LjL> !java
[02:43] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:43] <Fjodor> lupine_85: It asks for pw, but you can just press enter if you use public keys
[02:43] <diego> 
[02:44] <lupine_85> aha, it works :) thanks
[02:44] <Mr_Scorpio> Yes. I'm try to take a shot like that with my bookmarks open but I can't for some reason.
[02:44] <oxygene_> J: "using" the root folder is not dangerous by itself. It's like driving a car. You can crash it easily if you don't know what you do
[02:44] <kitche> omegacat: let me get the driver download for you
[02:44] <oxygene_> usually you don't have to access root folders.
[02:44] <ompaul> anon32, I have done modem stuff following that guide for software that is not on that page - I got the boxes up and running in about 15 mins - man that seems like the easy way to me
[02:44] <lupine_85> ...?
[02:44] <lupine_85> course you do :)
[02:44] <oxygene_> you have your home-folder. why not install the java-program there?
[02:45] <Parabola> Hey I'm trying to get buttons 6 and 7 working on my mouse
[02:45] <Parabola> any ideas?
[02:45] <lupine_85> it's just not generally a good idea to use it :)
[02:45] <anon32> ompaul: yes... but I'd still like to try and get the new ones to work
[02:45] <ompaul> anon32, theother side of the coin is that it is 1:45am and my brain is demanding I put it to sleep
[02:45] <lupine_85> ~, /usr/local, even /opt... but not /
[02:45] <anon32> ok
[02:45] <anon32> sorry then
[02:45] <ompaul> anon32, here is what I suggest
[02:46] <kitche> omegacat: http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/WPCI810g/downloads/WN-WPCI-Web-Update-v1.1.exe then unzip the exe when it gets done downloading tell me when your done
[02:46] <ompaul> grab the new driver, do not use gcc3.4 use 4.0
[02:46] <LjL> anon32, i don't even really know what you're trying to install, but *is* there a reason why you need the new version? which might be 10 times more difficult to install than the "standard" version?
[02:46] <Fjodor> Parabola: You need to set something in xorg.conf. Try to ask in #xorg
[02:46] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, you are right. I can't make a screenshot with an open menu in firefor either
[02:46] <anon32> LjL: mm, true
[02:46] <anon32> ompaul: I'll need to download gcc 4 right?
[02:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> I FINALLY GOT NICOTINE TO WORK
[02:46] <Mr_Scorpio> But I can just describe it to you.
[02:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> For those who know how much trouble I had with it.
[02:47] <ompaul> anon32, just a min - as I said I am in shutdown mode
[02:47] <LjL> anon32: i'm sure you heard about "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" -- if something doesn't have new features that you need, it makes no sense to upgrade
[02:47] <LjL> Sktfeelsdapper: don't shout though, please
[02:47] <Fjodor> Sktfeelsdapper: Very goof for you, but yelling is not too good even so
[02:47] <ompaul> anon32, sudo apt-get install build-essential (it is on your cd)
[02:47] <Mr_Scorpio> The same exact list stretchs all the way to the bottom on my screen almost touching my bottom panel.
[02:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah I know I'm sorry.
[02:47] <anon32> true enough, but the new ones are more stable and have call waiting support
[02:47] <ompaul> anon32, that gives you lots of stuff
[02:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> It's about time though, it's about time.
[02:47] <anon32> ompaul: funny, I've done that alredy
[02:48] <ompaul> anon32, then you have gcc4
[02:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> Now all I wish I could do is make a link to it from my desktop without running at the command line, but it uses python.
[02:48] <anon32> hmm..
[02:48] <ompaul> anon32, so you have the compiler for your kernel version
[02:48] <LjL> anon32: ok, now that's a reason. however, still do balance carefully the time you're likely to spend compiling and getting to work the new drivers against the features they gain you
[02:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> So I'm not sure if that's possible, but at any rate. I'm about to spend alot of time on Nicotine+!
[02:48] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, well. maybe the font is bigger?
[02:48] <oxygene_> or maybe the icons
[02:49] <anon32> I think it's just a bad call
[02:49] <ompaul> LjL, in fairness to the world that page could do with a cleanup
[02:49] <anon32> is there an equivalent I can redirect to?
[02:49] <deedubb> Hello. I'm wondering if anyone knows of an application that will allow me to monitor all read and writes to the filesystem?
[02:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> Anyone have Nicotine btw? Want to become buddies?
[02:50] <deedubb> I would like to know which file was written/read on my ext3 system & how much data was read/written; and which application sent/read it
[02:50] <Mr_Scorpio> Yeah I think it might be the icons but I'm not sure what are the system defaults for applicatons and all in windows.
[02:50] <omegacat> kitche: ok, i have downloaded and unzipped that exe
[02:50] <Mr_Scorpio> that made no sense.
[02:50] <anon32> you unzipped an exe??
[02:50] <Mr_Scorpio> sorry
[02:50] <ompaul> anon32, dude we have been helping here for a long time - hate to burst your bubble you can use the driver but you have to work with the O/S at some level and the level that is on the page
[02:50] <LjL> ompaul: DialupModemHowto?
[02:51] <ompaul> LjL, yeap
[02:51] <J> how do i use the sudo command
[02:51] <ompaul> LjL, it is a bit of adog
[02:51] <LjL> !tell j about sudo
[02:51] <omegacat> anon32: yes
[02:51] <deedubb> sudo <somecommand> then enter your username passowrd
[02:51] <Mr_Scorpio> Yeah I think it might be the fonts but I'm not sure what are the system defaults fonts for applicatons and all in windows.
[02:51] <eXSiR> put sudo before any command
[02:51] <deedubb> sudo requires you be in the "admin" group by default
[02:51] <ompaul> LjL, it is all there but it is a tad verbose
[02:51] <thedash> does RAID5 have limitations on the number of disks you can use?
[02:51] <deedubb> man sudoers for more information; your sudoers file is /etc/sudoers
[02:51] <eXSiR> like "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"
[02:51] <LjL> ompaul: guess that the fact that most people who're into computing have broadband these days doesn't help :\
[02:52] <kitche> omegacat: ok cd to the folder that says the driver part
[02:52] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, System-->Preferences-->Font
[02:52] <ompaul> LjL, that is true
[02:52] <omegacat> kitche: ok
[02:52] <oxygene_> see if it helps to change the application font size
[02:52] <ompaul> LjL, but ubuntu would not have been able to grow as well as it has withtout same - you could not edit the wiki pages on dialup and do the other work alongside it etc
[02:52] <kitche> omegacat: ok now fwcutter bcmwl5*.sys run that command tell me when you have ran it
[02:53] <omegacat> should i sudo to run it?
[02:53] <stu__> how do I change my sound to optical out ??
[02:53] <kitche> omegacat: not yet
[02:53] <LjL> ompaul: oh, there's a lot of things you *can* do (even concurrently) while on dialup, you just have not to throw your modem against a wall before you find out how =)
[02:53] <deedubb> if you use linux at home - I like to use %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL; it keeps you from getting annoyed with password prompts and it makes it so you don't run all apps as root by default
[02:54] <ompaul> LjL, heh
[02:54] <LjL> ompaul: anyway, by looking at it i suppose i could give that page some cuts here and there, even without knowing too much about dialup anymore... just for instance, the winmodem rant could just become a short sentence and a link to wikipedia imho
[02:54] <deedubb> and its not really less secure because none of the daemons are in the admin group
[02:54] <deedubb> the only thing is physical security; your brother etc might find it funny to rm -rf /
[02:54] <ompaul> yep or demote it to the end of the page
[02:55] <ompaul> get the work done with the explainations at the foot
[02:55] <ompaul> LjL, actually join me in #ubuntu-doc
[02:55] <omegacat> kitche: ok, i think it gave me an error though
[02:55] <deedubb> Anyone have a ext3 filesystem watcher?
[02:55] <kitche> omegacat can you output the error in here? It might be an error probably says use newer firmware
[02:56] <omegacat> yes, that is what i think it is
[02:56] <omegacat> ok, hold on
[02:56] <canute> Is it possible to parse the output of a command through a python script? Something along the lines of "ls -a | python myscript.py" ?
[02:56] <monkey89> can i install a server using the desktop cd
[02:56] <dagi3d> hi, I have just upgraded to edgy and now I cannot start a new session with gdm
[02:56] <monkey89> (edgy beta)
[02:58] <kitche> omegacat: well you can try sudo make installfw
[02:58] <omegacat2> kitche:
[02:58] <chuckyp> test
[02:58] <oxygene_> deedubb, do you want to monitor a file or the whole partition?
[02:58] <deedubb> whole partition
[02:58] <BeepAU> ok, i'm trying to install toxine. it tells me i need readline. i looked around, and there's a bunch. does anyone know which one i should install?
[02:59] <omegacat2> fwcutter can cut the firmware out of bcmwl5.sys filename :  bcmwl5.sys version  :  3.40.20.0 MD5      :  0c3fc803184f6f85e665dd012611225b
[02:59] <chuckyp> !toxine
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_microcode2.fw ...
[02:59] <oxygene_> I don't know of a tool, but you could hook into some kernel calls
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_microcode4.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_microcode5.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> *****: Sorry, it's not posible to extract "bcm43xx_microcode11.fw".
[02:59] <oxygene_> but that's overkill =)
[02:59] <omegacat2> *****: Extracting firmware from an old driver is bad. Choose a more recent one.
[02:59] <kitche> omegacat2: stop
[02:59] <chuckyp> BeepAU: toxine is the name of the package?
[02:59] <omegacat2> *****: Luckily bcm43xx driver doesn't include microcode11 uploads at the moment.
[02:59] <omegacat2> *****: But this can be added in the future...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_pcm4.fw ...
[02:59] <chuckyp> !tell omegacat2 about paste
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_pcm5.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval01.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval02.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat> kitche: oops
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval03.fw ...
[02:59] <deedubb> oxygene_, don't make me learn how to code please -- it must be done for me, it's why I use linux ;)
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval04.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval05.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval06.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat> i already pasted it all =(
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval07.fw ...
[02:59] <eXSiR> :D:DD
[02:59] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever manually configured GRUB to boot into backtrack?
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval08.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval09.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval10.fw ...
[02:59] <kitche> omegacat2: that's why you don't paste
[03:00] <deedubb> does lsof have that ability?
[03:00] <BeepAU> chuckyp - toxine-0.6.3.tar.gz , it's a xine frontend.
[03:00] <omegacat> kitche: i thought you asked me to =(
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[03:00] <claw___> '
[03:00] <chuckyp> BeepAU: and what do you need to build it?
[03:00] <claw___> #whooop
[03:00] <claw___> ss
[03:00] <claw___> sorry
[03:00] <chuckyp> BeepAU: err. what is your problem?
[03:00] <claw___> coming from oktoberfest ^_
[03:01] <kitche> omegacat: well you can use a pastebin or whatever but that's ok now do a sudo make installfw
[03:01] <BeepAU> chuckyp - i went ./configure , it told me i needed xinelib, so i installed that, now it says no readline found, toxine can't build. so, i guess i need to get the readline.
[03:01] <notig> hi
[03:02] <chuckyp> BeepAU: I don't believe readline is a package name.
[03:02] <eXSiR> hi notig
[03:02] <omegacat> kitche: make: command not found
[03:02] <omegacat> ?
[03:02] <oxygene_> deedubb, try http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/
[03:02] <kitche> omegacat ah you have to install make
[03:02] <BeepAU> chuckyp - what is it?
[03:02] <chuckyp> BeepAU: sounds like a problem with the source.  Have you followed the instructions?
[03:02] <omegacat> kitche: okie, let me apt get it
[03:02] <oxygene_> it doesn't tell you how many bytes are written though
[03:02] <eXSiR> omegacat: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:03] <J> ok so how do i put my shit in the root folder
[03:03] <eXSiR> u dont have make command to compile
[03:03] <oxygene_> but if your kernel is recent and supports inotify you can be informed of access and modify eventy
[03:03] <oxygene_> *s
[03:03] <BeepAU> chuckyp - i didn't see any instructions. i'm following a guide called how to install anything in ubuntu
[03:03] <J> i dont know how to use that sudo thing
[03:04] <Mr_Scorpio> Thanks. Oxygene_ it's not the same but it'll do.
[03:04] <cschneid> anybody know how to contact a freenode op?
[03:04] <chuckyp> BeepAU: ahh is there a readme in the directory were you extracted the tar.gz?
[03:04] <omegacat> J you put sudo in front of the command you want to run
[03:04] <kitche> cschneid: maybe #freenode?
[03:04] <chuckyp> BeepAU: err a file named INSTALL?
[03:04] <omegacat> J and the pw is just your regular pw
[03:05] <chuckyp> BeepAU: usually source packages have directions in the tar.gz i.e. a INSTALL or README or possibly both
[03:05] <deedubb> oxygene_, I think gnome's task manager has it too, too bad this is a server
[03:05] <eXSiR> J, try this "sudo mv /where/isyour/filename /root"
[03:05] <BeepAU> chuckyp - there's an install
[03:06] <BeepAU> chuckyp - should i just double-click it?
[03:06] <J> do i do that in the terminal
[03:06] <eXSiR> J, when it asks your password, enter your regular password
[03:06] <chuckyp> BeepAU: yeah it should just a be a plain text file of instructions
[03:06] <eXSiR> yes in terminal
[03:06] <omegacat2> kitche: make: *** No rule to make target `installfw'.  Stop.
[03:06] <ctron> Hey does anyone know how dbg library packages are supposed to work?  They install stuff into /usr/lib/debug, but then what?
[03:07] <ctron> Am I supposed to get executables to use them with LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[03:07] <jrib> ctron: it just installs the symbols so you can get a meaningful backtrace afaik
[03:07] <deedubb> how do I list files install by package foo?
[03:08] <oxygene_> deedubb, what exactly do you want to measure?
[03:08] <kitche> omegacat2: do an ls and see if you see a folder either fw or firmware
[03:08] <ExxonValdeez> how do i edit my path?
[03:08] <deedubb> oxygene_ some I/O seems very slow & takes a long time on my system, trying to figure out why
[03:08] <ExxonValdeez> i want to put gcc in it but i have no idea how.
[03:08] <J> for some reason when i try to type my password my nothing happens
[03:08] <ctron> jrib: How do I do that exactly, though?
[03:08] <BeepAU> chuckyp - the instructions tell me to do what i was already doing
[03:08] <J> its not typing
[03:08] <omegacat2> kitche: i see a lot of files that end with .fw?
[03:09] <kitche> omegacat2: in the folder your in?
[03:09] <ctron> jrib: Case in point, I have an app that links against gtk+ that I'm having trouble with, so I installed the -dbg packages for gtk+ and glib...
[03:09] <chuckyp> BeepAU: does it say anything about dependencies or packages needed in there?
[03:09] <omegacat2> yes, i am in ~/WN-WPCI Driver and Utility
[03:09] <eXSiR> J, look at your root folder pls, it should be copied
[03:09] <eXSiR> or moved
[03:09] <chuckyp> BeepAU: I would just make sure you meet all of those.
[03:09] <kitche> omegacat2: http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt that is what I m following by the way
[03:10] <J> but my password thing isnt working
[03:10] <J> it wont let me type
[03:10] <jrib> ctron: I've never done that before, but here are the wiki instructions for a backtrace https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[03:10] <kitche> K yes it is typing you can't see what you type for a password
[03:10] <kitche> opps J*
[03:11] <ctron> jrib: Yeah I know how to use gdb
[03:11] <Dr_willis> not working... :) lol
[03:11] <J> oh
[03:11] <kitche> J it won't show you what your typing for password:
[03:11] <Dr_willis> In the old days - that how it worked... :)
[03:11] <Dr_willis> 'non-echoing'
[03:12] <J> it said root is not a directory
[03:12] <J> FUCK this is pissing me off
[03:12] <kitche> Dr_willis: it's also a good idea for non-echoing
[03:12] <eXSiR> what command did u enter?
[03:12] <eXSiR> J?
[03:12] <J> sudo mv /desktop /jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip/ roo
[03:12] <kitche> J /root is a directory but not root if you didn't make one
[03:12] <deedubb> dpkg -L foo worked, thanks
[03:12] <jrib> ctron: you might be able to get help in the channel for the language you are working in
[03:12] <omegacat> kitche: is it relevant that i am using the 64 bit version?
[03:13] <eXSiR> sudo mv /home/your_username/Desktop/jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip /root
[03:13] <kitche> omegacat: yes :)
[03:13] <eXSiR> try this
[03:13] <J> what command should i use
[03:13] <ctron> jrib: Thanks
[03:13] <Alakazam_> "i command thee" usually works
[03:13] <kitche> omegacat: but just follow that link I posted and it should work
[03:13] <jrib> ctron: the only thing I've used dbg packages for are for programs like firefox, so I don't know what special things you have to do to get info about the libraries.  gl though
[03:13] <chuckyp> Alakazam_: rofl
[03:13] <Alakazam_> lol
[03:13] <chuckyp> Move a says me?
[03:14] <J> what command should i use
[03:14] <omegacat> what is softmac?
[03:14] <eXSiR> J, sudo mv /home/your_username/Desktop/jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip /root
[03:14] <omegacat> should i get that first?
[03:14] <omegacat> do i have that already?
[03:14] <kitche> omegacat: softmac is what is needed to use broadcom natively so it should be compiled in ubuntu's kernel already
[03:15] <deedubb> oxygene_; got it - misconfiguration of clamd was a leader
[03:15] <omegacat> kitche: i have the cd that came with the laptop maybe there are drivers on that?
[03:16] <kitche> omegacat: maybe but the readme is what you want to use
[03:16] <omegacat> ok
[03:16] <ctron> jrib: Hmmm gdb is supposed to use them automatically...  but I'm using a gdb built from the original sources, perhaps that's the problem
[03:16] <chrisjw> hi
[03:17] <J> that command didn't work
[03:17] <eXSiR> J, i am getting tired :)
[03:17] <J> SO AM I
[03:17] <ctron> Well, I guess I'll build my own debug libs
[03:17] <ctron> Bummer
[03:17] <eXSiR> try to google for newbee commands for linux
[03:17] <J> i been trying for a day
[03:17] <kitche> J: did you replace your_username with your actual username
[03:17] <J> yes
[03:17] <unfknblvbl> ubuntu.com has those desktop guides that help ALOT
[03:18] <omegacat> kitche: the one i have doesn't have a bcmwl564.sys?
[03:18] <eXSiR> not desktop Desktop u know?
[03:18] <omegacat> did i get the wrong one maybe?
[03:18] <eXSiR> case-sensitive
[03:18] <J> what do you mean not destop
[03:18] <kitche> omegacat: well what do you have?
[03:18] <unfknblvbl> 0.o
[03:18] <J> i know i put my real user name
[03:18] <chuckyp> J: the capitol letter in Desktop vs. desktop  is a big difference
[03:18] <J> like my log in name right
[03:19] <eXSiR> no i mean ur dekstop's name is Desktop
[03:19] <unfknblvbl> oh no
[03:19] <unfknblvbl> hang on
[03:19] <eXSiR> u should use D
[03:19] <ZigGaag> Ubuntu rocks your fucking socks off.
[03:19] <unfknblvbl> how'd he no ?
[03:19] <karl> anyone know port forwarding with ssh?
[03:19] <unfknblvbl> *know
[03:19] <bruenig> !language
[03:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:20] <chuckyp> !tell karl about anyone
[03:20] <unfknblvbl> eXSiR: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/linux-basics.html
[03:20] <chuckyp> lol
[03:20] <eXSiR> tell J, he needs it :)
[03:20] <karl> hehe
[03:20] <omegacat> kitche: i just used that paste bin thing?
[03:21] <chuckyp> J: sudo mv /path/to/file /destination
[03:21] <unfknblvbl> o
[03:21] <kitche> omegacat: did you get the url for it?
[03:21] <unfknblvbl> J: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/linux-basics.html
[03:21] <chuckyp> J: the sudo command is used because you ar putting the file in /root
[03:21] <THX-1138> alias ME='whoami  $1 '
[03:21] <omegacat2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25367/
[03:21] <omegacat> yes =)
[03:22] <karl> alright. I have a web server, server A, that has a firewall rule so that it wont serve port 80 to anything outside of its network. I know a server login for server B within that network. I want to port forward port 80 to my home computer, so that I can access the webserver on server A
[03:22] <kitche> omegacat: that's because you did bcmwl5*.sys the asterisk is a wildcard
[03:23] <omegacat> oh. there wasn't one before either though? I scrolled up and there never was one? Is that what i am making?
[03:24] <cafuego> omegacat: Just use the package; http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[03:25] <eXSiR> guys, i love ubuntu, i love ubuntu helpers and i love who wanna be part of ubuntu, but i g2g :)
[03:25] <eXSiR> have fun
[03:25] <eXSiR> bye all
[03:27] <omegacat> cafuego: I jsut apt get that?
[03:27] <karl> alright. I have a web server, server A, that has a firewall rule so that it wont serve port 80 to anything outside of its network. I know a server login for server B within that network. I want to port forward port 80 to my home computer, so that I can access the webserver on server A
[03:27] <chuckyp> omegacat: what are you trying to install?
[03:27] <cafuego> omegacat: You cna if you set it up per the instructions on that page. otherwise, download the deb file and use 'sudo dpkg -i <debfile>'
[03:28] <omegacat> chuckyp: i'm trying to make my wifi work
[03:29] <chuckyp> omegacat: are you lebski88 on the forums?
[03:29] <radar1976> which is the best command line package manager for ubuntu
[03:29] <cafuego> radar1976: aptitude probably.
[03:29] <factotum> yeah, aptitude totaly
[03:29] <omegacat> cafuego: what am i supposed to apt get from there? I added the sources
[03:30] <cafuego> omegacat: Now go to the font page and import the gpg key.
[03:30] <Tokenbad> there is no way to mount cue/bin files in ubuntu is there?
[03:30] <cafuego> Tokenbad: Not unless you convert them to iso (using bchunk) first.
[03:30] <oxygene_> I've created a patch for metacity and copied it to debian/patches. can you tell me how I package it with the patch applied? is there a howto for this available?
[03:30] <krazykit> radar1976: aptitude.
[03:30] <Tokenbad> I could never get bchunk to work
[03:31] <cafuego> oxygene_: Add the file to debian/patches/00list; then build as per usual.
[03:31] <cafuego> Tokenbad: Than no, there isn't.
[03:31] <omegacat> chuckyp: no?
[03:31] <oxygene_> there's not per usual for me but I'll check the ubuntu wiki for it
[03:31] <Alth> Hey everyone. Just installed Dapper on a friend's new PC, and I'm having a bit of trouble with apt and repositories...can't seem to install anything, it won't find the packages.
[03:31] <cafuego> omegacat: After adding the gpg key, 'sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-firmware'.
[03:33] <omegacat> chuckyp: no?
[03:33] <xenoNfluX> alth, can't find anything at all?
[03:33] <omegacat> cafuego: will that work even if i added the key wrong?
[03:33] <cafuego> omegacat: Nope
[03:33] <krazykit> cafuego: oh, sweet, you have the firmware packaged! nifty
[03:33] <cafuego> omegacat: Actually, it probably will, you just need to tell it you want the package even if the key check fails.
[03:34] <Alth> xenoNfluX: - I think there's a problem with my repositories. Even copy-pasting exact file names from the wiki etc, I get package not found.
[03:34] <omegacat> cafuego: I will try that because I pasted it exactly and it looks l still managed to not do it right.
[03:35] <Alth> Example - E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[03:35] <xenoNfluX> Alth, ahhhhh... I know what you need to do
[03:35] <Alth> I'm glad :P
[03:35] <omegacat> 'sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-firmware' that right?
[03:35] <cafuego> omegacat: yup
[03:36] <omegacat> ok, it looks like it worked without the key =)
[03:36] <Jaksh_Eet> Howdy
[03:36] <xenoNfluX> Alth, have you enabled universe/multiverse repositories?
[03:36] <Alth> xenoNfluX: - Yeah.
[03:36] <xenoNfluX> have you hit Reload?
[03:36] <Jaksh_Eet> Anyone know how to fix Teamspeak? it takes over my sound and I cant hear my games
[03:36] <xenoNfluX> or Refresh, I forget
[03:37] <omegacat> cafuego: now what do i do?
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> I'm not on my Ubuntu machine right now
[03:37] <Alth> Reload/refresh where?
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> within Synaptic
[03:37] <Alth> Using command line apt-get.
[03:37] <cafuego> omegacat: Unload the bcm43xx driver and reload it. 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo modprobe bcm43xx'.
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> or I believe 'sudo apt-get reload' will work
[03:37] <Alth> Ah, ok, I'll try that :)
[03:37] <bruenig> sudo apt-get update
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> update, yes
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> I was just about to SSH into my server to check :)
[03:38] <SuperLag> Is there a way to bypass the LiveCD portion and go straight to the installer, so that the resources are dedicated to the install process?
[03:38] <Alth> Ok, looks like that was what I forgot :$
[03:38] <Alth> Thanks guys :)
[03:38] <Alth> I knew there was something. I feel stupid now :P
[03:38] <malice_> Anyone here use a wireless card for there laptop like one from Cingular?
[03:38] <Jaksh_Eet> Anyone know how to fix Teamspeak? it takes over my sound and I cant hear my games
[03:38] <xenoNfluX> hehe no problem
[03:38] <sureshot> is jack_sparrow here tonight
[03:38] <Kyler> In edgy, is there any problem with linking /bash to /bin/sh (instead of dash)?  I was banging my head against compile problems for quite awhile before I figured out it was dash.
[03:38] <Neo8750>  [
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> No
[03:39] <bruenig> Kyler, #ubuntu+1
[03:39] <omegacat> cafuego ok, i did that
[03:39] <sureshot> good jack_sparrow i would like to ask you a question
[03:39] <cafuego> omegacat: 'sudo iwconfig'
[03:39] <Kyler> bruenig: Thanks!
[03:39] <sureshot> what is wrong with the syntax of this like could anyond tell me.. deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey sureshot whats up, I'm just printing some code to find a bug
[03:40] <tjb891> can anyone tell me how to add a nonstandard repository?
[03:40] <sureshot> you could always email me your cribsheet lol
[03:40] <omegacat> cafuego: it said stuff to me? should i show you?
[03:40] <bruenig> tjb891, you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list, add the line for the repo then do sudo apt-get update, or hit reload in synaptic after you add the line
[03:40] <sureshot> jack_sparrow what is wrong with the syntax of this like could anyond tell me.. deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Join #Jack_Sparrow so we can talk about what you are trying to do.
[03:42] <brian98> Hello all :)
[03:42] <bruenig> !offtopic
[03:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:42] <unfknblvbl> shouldn't offtopic say bugger off not welcome ?
[03:43] <brian98> bruenig, was that directed at me?
[03:43] <bruenig> brian98, yeah just a bit of a joke though
[03:43] <brian98> oh
[03:43] <brian98> haha
[03:43] <brian98> I don't get it
[03:44] <chuckyp> !topic
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <chuckyp> ^^^^^^^  lol
[03:44] <bruenig> brian98, you are technically off topic
[03:44] <Xyz_> Hello. I installed Kubuntu from a CD i received today and chose for it to install on /dev/sda3.  It installed fine, but my computer still reboots into windows.  How do I boot into Kubuntu?
[03:44] <bruenig> but it is kind of absurd to say hello or pleasantries are to be disallowed
[03:44] <bruenig> especially for a distro that supports humanity to others
[03:45] <chuckyp> wow well time for me to go to sleep.  lol
[03:45] <omegacat> cafuego: now should I be able to just go to network settings and turn it on?
[03:45] <Xyz_> rescue root=/dev/sda3 fails.
[03:45] <cafuego> omegacat: As long as it said it found a wireless interface you'll be right.
[03:45] <brian98> bruenig, I do my best to help people here and I was just saying hello as I've been away for 11 hours
[03:45] <cafuego> omegacat: Install 'network-manager-gnome' and then add the network manager applet to the Gnome panel.
[03:46] <root___> How the hell is debian playing this mp3 out of the box
[03:46] <omegacat> cafuego it has always showed a wireless interface, it just hasn't worked.
[03:46] <root___> I thought that was agaisnt copywrite
[03:46] <brian98> now thats offtopic!
[03:46] <brian98> lol
[03:46] <root___>  I know its not debian.
[03:46] <bruenig> root___, i believe they have a room, perhaps #debian is the name
[03:46] <cafuego> omegacat: Which one is is, eth1?
[03:46] <bruenig> channel*
[03:47] <omegacat> cafuego: yes
[03:47] <cafuego> omegacat: iwlist eth1 scan'
[03:47] <Xyz_> is there a channel where i could get help? :)
[03:47] <cafuego> omegacat: If it works, that should show you the available networks.
[03:47] <brian98> your there Xyz_
[03:48] <brian98> I've just finished playing with edgy on a brand new laptop
[03:48] <brian98> not too bad at all
[03:48] <rjian> ello people i need help.... im currently using Ubuntu it is possible to change it to kubuntu?
[03:48] <bruenig> edgy seems the same
[03:48] <oxygene_> hehe. first ubuntu patch submitted. I'm kind of proud now =)
[03:48] <brian98> rjian,
[03:48] <brian98> rjian, very easy
[03:48] <omegacat2> cafuego: eth1      No scan results
[03:48] <xenoNfluX> rjian, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:48] <brian98> rjian, sudo aptitude update
[03:48] <Neo8750> sudo apt-get isntall kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <unfknblvbl> ew kubuntu
[03:49] <brian98> no
[03:49] <cafuego> omegacat; Any errors in`dmesg' to go with that?
[03:49] <brian98> dont apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <rjian> how about if theres no internet connection is it possible?
[03:49] <brian98> whatever you do
[03:49] <brian98> dont apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <Neo8750> brian98: i have done it and it worked perfectly fine
[03:49] <bruenig> rjian, do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, then do the command on this page here to remove all of ubuntu http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[03:49] <omegacat> cafuegoL are you going to laugh at me if i ask you where to find dmesg?
[03:49] <hoboi> Xyz_: just joined channel help w/what
[03:50] <brian98> Neo8750, try to remove it ;)
[03:50] <rjian> brian98: how about is theres no internet connection is it ok??
[03:50] <brian98> You need a connection
[03:50] <brian98> rjian, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002
[03:50] <brian98> Neo8750, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002
[03:50] <brian98> If you use apt-get
[03:50] <brian98> it's a real pain in the *** to get rid of
[03:50] <brian98> if you need to
[03:50] <rjian> how about if i dont have a net connection.. i only have cds of kubuntu..
[03:51] <Neo8750> so thats kde =P
[03:51] <jrib> rjian: add the cd as a repository
[03:51] <bruenig> rjian, just reformat and install the kubuntu cds
[03:51] <MrWok> Is there a way to connect my Xubuntu box to my XP box and share the internet from the XP box to the Xubuntu box?
[03:51] <omegacat> cafuegoL I am not sure?
[03:51] <MrWok> Over ethernet
[03:51] <omegacat> er
[03:51] <Xyz_> hoboi: i just installed kubuntu to sda3 so i can dual-boot, but i only boot into windows. i reinstalled and have the same problem.
[03:51] <brian98> MrWok, easier the other way round!
[03:51] <omegacat> cafuego: I am not sure?
[03:52] <MrWok> Brian98: not possible to do that right now.
[03:52] <oxygene_> MrWok, the other way round would be easier =)
[03:52] <bruenig> !grub > Xyz_
[03:52] <rjian> jrib: i will just add the cd as repositor??
[03:52] <cafuego> omegacat: Nothing about missing firmware files>?
[03:52] <brian98> MrWok, then you can do it...
[03:52] <brian98> just not so easy
[03:52] <snake> For those who were just complaining of my offtopicy, heres where I was getting to: How does debian play mp3 out of the box, when its illigal for ubuntu to include it
[03:52] <brian98> one sec
[03:52] <MrWok> Thanks
[03:52] <Xyz_> bruenig: i can't install grub from the livecd
[03:52] <brian98> snake, !mp3
[03:53] <bruenig> snake, it is illegal, if debian does it, they are breaking the law at least in the U.S.
[03:53] <rjian> brian98: is it ok to add the cds as repositor?
[03:53] <jrib> rjian: yes, you can put the cd in your drive.  Then it may be autodetected and added.  If not, go to system > administration > synaptic.  Then go to the edit > add cdrom menu item.  Then install kubuntu-desktop, it will fetch the package from the cd's
[03:53] <snake> bruenig: Im aware, all I know is I just installed a fresh nilla debian and its playing mp3s.
[03:53] <bruenig> Xyz_, read some of those links, I think they tell you how to do, especially the one that says "lost grub after installing windows"
[03:53] <brian98> rjian, have you done much installing or customizing of your ubuntu setup?
[03:53] <omegacat2> cafuego: no, here is the end of dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25368/
[03:54] <bruenig> snake, ok what is your point, They broke the law therefore ubuntu can? If I murder and get away with it does that mean that it is legal to murder. Check your logic.
[03:54] <CheekyBoinc> Debian do not support mp3..default
[03:54] <snake> CheekyBoinc: I just did a netinstall and its on here, and I am freaking out.
[03:54] <brian98> snake, google is your friend
[03:54] <MrWok> MrWok !mp3
[03:54] <Xyz_> bruenig: oh, ok. i didn't see the message window. thanks.
[03:55] <brian98> and possibly your worst enemy :S
[03:55] <MrWok> Can someone do the MP3 thing to me, I'd like to read it
[03:55] <cafuego> omegacat: hurray, it's working ;-)  Maybe reboot, just to be sure everything laods correctly.
[03:55] <omegacat2> ok
[03:55] <brian98> !mp3
[03:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <jrib> MrWok: /msg ubotu mp3
[03:55] <bruenig> MrWok, you can do it to yourself. Just do !mp3 > MrWok
[03:55] <MrWok> !mp3 MrWok
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 MrWok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <bruenig> you have to use the greater than sign
[03:56] <brian98> :D
[03:56] <jrib> bruenig: doesn't http://www.fluendo.com/resources/fluendo_mp3.php allow legal mp3 decoding?
[03:56] <omegacat> cafuego: should i unplug my wired network?
[03:56] <MrWok> !mp3 > MrWok
[03:56] <omegacat> will it be weir with both?
[03:56] <MrWok> Thanks
[03:56] <CheekyBoinc> you install the codec yourself through netinstall! Not Debian ^^
[03:56] <omegacat> *weird
[03:56] <bruenig> jrib, I was only attacking the logic, not the truthfulness of his claim...
[03:56] <brian98> someone sent me a great line b4 about the costs of packaging mp3 decoders with an os
[03:56] <eetfunk> i'm having problems installing php4-cgi.  Here's the error I get:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/LE2mMt57.html can anyone help me please?
[03:57] <cafuego> omegacat: Both should work fine.
[03:57] <jrib> bruenig: oh ok, I wasn't really following the conersation
[03:57] <bruenig> but my thought is the same as CheekyBoinc, the net install probably gets it which is not related directly do debian. The same as when you use repositories in ubuntu
[03:57] <CheekyBoinc> Jepp :)
[03:58] <brian98> eetfunk, sudo mkdir /usr/share/php4/php.ini-dist
[03:58] <brian98> and run again
[03:58] <rjian>  jrib: its not working its still looking for internet connection
[03:58] <jrib> rjian: disable the online repositories
[03:58] <oxygene_> mkdir?
[03:58] <oxygene_> is it a directory?
[03:59] <eetfunk> brian98 : i tried it, same error
[03:59] <brian98> eetfunk, sorry
[03:59] <brian98> I am half asleep
[03:59] <oxygene_> try reinstalling php4-common
[03:59] <omegacat> yay! it says it is active
[03:59] <omegacat> ilu cafuego and kitche
[03:59] <Xyz_> bruenig: thank you. i'll try those.
[04:00] <eetfunk> oxygene_: just did, and it also gives me the same error
[04:00] <eetfunk> weird
[04:00] <omegacat> thank you guys *sooooo* much
[04:00] <oxygene_> eetfunk, with dapper?
[04:00] <eetfunk> yes
[04:00] <sureshot> someone gave me an url to aixgl and compiz and i have seemed to have lost it would any one on here know what that was
[04:00] <oxygene_> what does ls -alF /usr/share/php4/php.* say?
[04:00] <eetfunk> i think i cleaned some files that were required a little earlier
[04:01] <brian98> eetfunk, cd /usr/share/php4
[04:01] <brian98> eetfunk, sudo nano php.ini-dist
[04:01] <brian98> then ctrl o
[04:01] <brian98> to save
[04:01] <brian98> and see if it gives the same error
[04:01] <oxygene_> if you just created the folder with mkdir, remove it
[04:01] <oxygene_> php.ini-dist should be a regular file
[04:01] <brian98> he can rm that dir when he tries that
[04:02] <oxygene_> php.ini-dist is provided by php4-common
[04:02] <cpl-tnt44> any know how can i install ubuntu to my laptop if my laptop dont have a cdrom ?
[04:02] <oxygene_> so reinstalling it should recreate it
[04:02] <brian98> I just found why mp3 isn't bundled with ubuntu :)
[04:02] <omegacat> wow! my wireless light is on!!!!!
[04:02] <brian98> http://www.mp3licensing.com/
[04:02] <eetfunk> ok i think i got it.  created the dir manually, removed php4-common and cgi, and reinstalled
[04:02] <eetfunk> thanks guyd :)
[04:02] <eetfunk> guys
[04:03] <cpl-tnt44> some 1 plz ? Installing ubuntu without a cd-rom ? possible or just a dream ?
[04:03] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, possible!
[04:03] <brian98> You got a 1 gig usb key?
[04:03] <oxygene_> and also a dream ;)
[04:03] <rjian> jrib: hmm still not working.. can u give me a guide??
[04:03] <lakin> Hey, anyone know of a database administration tool for data, IE databases, tables, rows (similar to navicat), but free as in Libre ?
[04:03] <brian98> lakin, for what db?
[04:03] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 (Privet plz)
[04:03] <lakin> ideally for any, but a mysql specific one will do.
[04:04] <brian98> ok
[04:04] <cafuego> lakin: mysqladmin; otheriws eopenoffice base plugs into a mysql server via jdbc
[04:04] <brian98> lakin, sudo apt-get install mysql-query-browser
[04:05] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, in the channel only, sorry
[04:05] <lakin> cafuego: hrrm, mysqladmin isn't quite what I'm looking for.
 installing without a cd rom ?
 i took out my HD and plugged it in to a USB2 drive on my desktop computer
 im planning to copy the files that on the ubuntu iso to anather paratition in my HD and install from that paratition ,but i can't find the exeuction files to run it ...
[04:05] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:06] <cpl-tnt44> brian waiting for a comment from u
[04:06] <lakin> cafuego: but thanks. :)
[04:07] <sureshot> someone gave me an url to aixgl and compiz and i have seemed to have lost it would any one on here know what that was
[04:07] <brian98> cpl-tnt44,  what os on the pc now?
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> !aixgl
[04:07] <cpl-tnt44> XP Pro
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <lakin> brian98: mysql-query-browser is close .. I'll keep playing with it, but it crashed within the first 30 seconds of me using it.   /me heads off to file a bug report.
[04:08] <lakin> thanks guys.
[04:08] <brian98> !aiglx
[04:08] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[04:08] <brian98> lakin: it's not the best :)
[04:08] <brian98> lakin: I used to use mysqladmin
[04:08] <Zardiac> Hi, I just have a quick question, I am using a japanese keyboard, (113 keys i think) And it almost works perfectly but there is some characters I cannot use, so I wonder if there is a way to edit the keyboard layout a  little and make the keys work? It is some keys wich is used togehter with altgr
[04:08] <brian98> but it's been closed down :(
[04:09] <eRadic8r> need xorg.conf help...any takers?
[04:09] <cpl-tnt44> wellz brian98 is it possible to run the installation from MS DOS ?
[04:09] <sureshot> so does anyone know the url for the aiglx howto
[04:09] <brian98> eRadic8r, go on
[04:09] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, I asked you what os, you just have dos installed?
[04:09] <booge> does ubuntu have vpn software?
[04:10] <eRadic8r> i have a dell 8100 laptop nvidia 32mb geforce 2go everything is loading but fails on setting display mode
[04:10] <chemaja> booge, for which vpn
[04:10] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, download rawrite2.exe and sbm.bin off the internet (do a search)
[04:10] <unfknblvbl> 32mb whoa
[04:10] <cpl-tnt44> brian 98 , im talking now from a desktop winxp pro sp2 computer installed on , i wanna install the ubuntu to an old compaq PIII 500 64MB 40GB notepad
[04:10] <booge> i want to vpn into work
[04:11] <chemaja> booge, yea... what vpn type is it
[04:11] <eRadic8r> yea i know...
[04:11] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, Once you have these files, put them both in the same folder.
[04:11] <booge> i dont know
[04:11] <oxygene_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows could possibly help you
[04:11] <chemaja> booge, ask your sysadmin
[04:11] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:11] <cpl-tnt44> will they work from dos ?
[04:11] <booge> in windows i just chose add a vpn connection
[04:11] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75367
[04:11] <chemaja> booge, then it's probably PPTP
[04:11] <chemaja> booge, check out http://pptpclient.sf.net
[04:11] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, it's there
[04:11] <booge> thanks
[04:12] <brian98> yes, it works from dos
[04:12] <chemaja> booge, what i do is install pptp-linux from ubuntu universe, then use the manual setup instructions from that website
[04:12] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 ,thanks i will look into it
[04:12] <chemaja> booge, alternatively, you can add their apt repo and use their gui front end
[04:12] <brian98> pptp is a pain in the ass if the router your connecting to (pix for eg) isn't configured right
[04:12] <brian98> linux is much fussier than windows
[04:12] <brian98> sorry that was meant to be pain in the ***
[04:13] <sureshot> i found that url for the aiglx it is as follows http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/
[04:13] <booge> chemaja do i install it from source?
[04:13] <chemaja> booge, no
[04:13] <chemaja> booge, they've got really good instructions on that site. you can a) follow the instructions for Ubuntu or b) install pptp-linux from Ubuntu Universe and use their manual setup instructions
[04:13] <chemaja> booge, all options deal with just binary packages, no source
[04:14] <booge> ok
[04:14] <booge> thanks
[04:14] <Arafangion> Howdy folks, I've booted up a computer using the Ubuntu 6.06 live cd, apart from taking *ages* to load (nevermind about that, not important), the issue I've got is the mouse is completely unresponsive. (Serial mouse)
[04:14] <chemaja> booge, no problems :D
[04:14] <Arafangion> So, once X11 and gnome has finished loading, there is no way to move the mouse cursor.  Any suggestions?
[04:14] <brian98> Arafangion, is it working at all?
[04:15] <Cale> there seems to be a problem with drscheme/mzscheme in dapper -- in particular, the installation script fails (although it seems as if the software is properly installed). Does anyone know about this?
[04:15] <Arafangion> brian98: What do you mean by "at all?"
[04:15] <Arafangion> brian98: Other than "completely unresponsive".
[04:15] <brian98> Arafangion, I just reread your message
[04:15] <brian98> :)
[04:15] <brian98> sorry
[04:15] <Arafangion> brian98: Heh, :)
[04:15] <brian98> Arafangion, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2661
[04:16] <omegacat> cafuego: that fwcutter thing i set up earlier - is that still necessary with the page that you sent me to? (I just want to make some notes in case i have to do this again)
[04:16] <Zardiac> Hi, I just have a quick question, I am using a japanese keyboard, (113 keys i think) And it almost works perfectly but there is some characters I cannot use, so I wonder if there is a way to edit the keyboard layout a  little and make the keys work? It is some keys wich is used togehter with altgr
[04:16] <Arafangion> brian98: A complicating factor with this machine is that it's sharing a USB printer, using a wireless nic, and has a faulty m/b!
[04:16] <sindig> irc://208.98.23.148/wanderers-mp3s
[04:17] <brian98> Arafangion, erm
[04:17] <brian98> Arafangion, try #2ndhandpc's
[04:17] <brian98> Arafangion, just kidding!
[04:17] <brian98> Arafangion, do you know the serial port defo works ?
[04:17] <Arafangion> brian98: I was under the impression that X11 would detect the mouse, or not at all.
[04:18] <brian98> most times yes
[04:18] <brian98> but if you read that article
[04:18] <brian98> there are people in the same boat as you
[04:18] <brian98> Arafangion, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2661
[04:18] <Arafangion> brian98: I've read it, it just seems contrary to my experiences :)
[04:19] <deny_> where can i get a "powered by: linux" sticker??
[04:19] <brian98> ok
[04:19] <brian98> deny_ try asking someone in #ubuntu-marketing
[04:19] <deny_> ok
[04:19] <Dr_willis> deny_,  ive bought them befor at some of the cd/disrto sales sites.. like cheapbytes.com
[04:19] <rustlerharv> my firefox keeps trying to dl a php script im trying to run when i try to run it any ideas
[04:20] <Arafangion> brian98: I think I'll just keep win98 on it.  It's a fairly useless machine anyway.
[04:20] <Rasta> !photoshop
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about photoshop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Badges/stickers/bumperstickers
[04:20] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, the server is misconfigured
[04:20] <jrib> deny_: system76 offers them: http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64
[04:20] <Rasta> he doesnt know nothing
[04:20] <brian98> Arafangion it will be much nicer with ubuntu , trust me
[04:20] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, that has nothing to do with firefox
[04:20] <rustlerharv> what server
[04:20] <Rasta> someone here has installed photoshop in ubuntu using wine?
[04:20] <oxygene_> well the server is responsible for executing php-scripts
[04:21] <G_Dragon> Hey, I'm wondering if I could ask for some help.
[04:21] <deny_> thanks
[04:21] <oxygene_> try it, G_Dragon
[04:21] <Arafangion> brian98: I'm fully aware of that, but the damn box hasn't even had the screen plugged in for the past month, and nobody (including me) noticed.
[04:21] <deny_> jrib, i cant get that working
[04:21] <rustlerharv> oxygene_: i thing the script i want to run configs the server
[04:21] <rustlerharv> im trying to get into phpmyadmin
[04:21] <Arafangion> brian98: It is practically nothing more than a wireless print server.
[04:21] <jrib> deny_: what, the link?
[04:21] <Asc> Can most browsers display .svg vector images?
[04:21] <rustlerharv> when i try to open it it tries to dl it
[04:22] <Aaroncn> hi everyone. I installed a vmware-server, but it cannot be started. it says: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. use vmware-config.pl to configure
[04:22] <deny_> yeah, jrib
[04:22] <Arafangion> brian98: Infact, I wonder if there _are_ wireless usb print servers running Debian out there?
[04:22] <oxygene_> yes, the server computer is not configured correctly
[04:22] <Aaroncn> but I don't know how to configure it. can anyone help me? thanks.
[04:22] <brian98> Arafangion, it will turn it into a useful pc again!
[04:22] <jrib> deny_: go to system76.com then /etc and then free stuff
[04:22] <oxygene_> or maybe you have webspace without php-support
[04:22] <brian_> use vmware-config.pl
[04:22] <Arafangion> brian98: Most people only need one useful PC ;)
[04:22] <brian98> Rasta, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1336
[04:22] <G_Dragon> I'm trying to set up the sound to work on ubuntu, so I went to the help site, tried their suggestion, and still wound up with no sound.
[04:23] <rustlerharv> oxygene_:  its local
[04:23] <rustlerharv> in localhost
[04:23] <oxygene_> the same machine you run firefox on?
[04:23] <Aaroncn> hi everyone. I installed a vmware-server, but it cannot be started. it says: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. use vmware-config.pl to configure
[04:24] <oxygene_> then your "client" is also your "server". are you using apache?
[04:24] <brian98> Arafangion, I'm just saying it can breed new life!
[04:24] <rustlerharv> ive had this working before but now its being a pain
[04:24] <deny_> jrib, i got it to work, off the google cache
[04:24] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:24] <Arafangion> brian98: :)
[04:24] <brian98> Really :)
[04:24] <jrib> deny_: oh ok
[04:24] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, do you have php installed?
[04:24] <kjm> Aaroncn - ok - so, where's the question there?
[04:24] <rustlerharv> my overall goal is to get mythtv working
[04:24] <brian_> run vmware-config.pl
[04:24] <rustlerharv> i should
[04:25] <oxygene_> did you restart apache?
[04:25] <Arafangion> brian98: The ideal system to replace this box would be something that just has a wireless nic, usb port, a power connection, and measures 1"/3"/6" or something :)
[04:25] <brian98> Arafangion, and if the only thing not working is the mouse.,
[04:25] <Rasta> brian98, thanks dude, good link
[04:25] <Arafangion> brian98: Running Debian, of course.
[04:25] <Aaroncn> kjm: thanks. what i have done is: I install build-essential
[04:25] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:25] <Arafangion> brian98: The mouse is merley the most apparent issue.
[04:25] <Aaroncn> kjm: and check the kernal version is gcc 4.0
[04:25] <brian98> Arafangion, a - get the mouse working - b buy a usb mouse or ps/2 mouse :)
[04:25] <Arafangion> Aaroncn: I didn't realise that was a kernel version!
[04:25] <Aaroncn> kjm: and install linux headers
[04:25] <Arafangion> brian98: Only spare USB port is used by the printer.
[04:25] <kjm> Aaroncn - you'll only need perl to run vmware-config.pl I believe.
[04:25] <brian98> ps/2
[04:26] <brian98> ??
[04:26] <Arafangion> brian98: PS/2 port is broken.
[04:26] <brian98> haha
[04:26] <brian98> ok
[04:26] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:26] <rustlerharv> do you know how to restart apache in comand line
[04:26] <brian98> then follow the link
[04:26] <Arafangion> brian98: Actually, the port is fine, but the system becomes _very_ unstable if you use it ;)
[04:26] <unfknblvbl> get a usb hub to run the printer and mouse ?
[04:26] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[04:26] <mkquist> G-Dragon - still looking for sound help?
[04:26] <G_Dragon> Yup
[04:26] <Aaroncn> kjm: I run vmwae-config.pl, it poped a lot options. and I just press enter to accept default setting.
[04:26] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, sudo apache2ctl restart
[04:26] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: I have a problem with spending money on _crap_ systems.
[04:26] <brian98> Arafangion, sounds like a bios prob - try
[04:27] <Arafangion> brian98: I suspect a chipset problem.
[04:27] <unfknblvbl> usb hub is not an extravagant expense
[04:27] <mkquist> G-Dragon - try this page  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive+sound
[04:27] <brian98> google are giving them away ;)
[04:27] <kjm> ok........but you should *read* what the options are. . .but yes, defaults are *usually* sage
[04:27] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: For you, perhaps.
[04:27] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:27] <mkquist> G-Dragon - helped me get mine going
[04:27] <unfknblvbl> well its linux so you don't need a mouse
[04:27] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: I'm a full time unemployeed uni student. :)
[04:27] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, scroll down to " Apache HTTP Server"
[04:27] <Aaroncn> kjm: it seems that vmware-config compile something. When the config get done, vmware-server doesn't work still.
[04:27] <G_Dragon> Alright, checking it out.
[04:28] <brian98> Arafangion,         Option          "Device"                "/dev/ttys0"
[04:28] <brian98>         Option          "Protocol"              "Auto"
[04:28] <Aaroncn> kjm: Honestly, i don't where the problem is.
[04:28] <brian98> in your xorg.conf
[04:28] <brian98> thats in etc/X11
[04:28] <Arafangion> brian98: Can I change that without installing Ubuntu?
[04:28] <birdfish> Is there a version of the Berkely DB installed on ubuntu server 6.06 initially?
[04:28] <unfknblvbl> Arafangion: dole ?
[04:28] <brian98> no
[04:28] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: FULL TIME STUDENT.
[04:28] <brian98> but when you get ubuntu installed
[04:28] <brian98> hit ctrl-alt-f1 sudo nano that file
[04:28] <kjm> dunno what to say then. .. .not a vmware expert
[04:28] <Arafangion> brian98: I suppose at a pinch I might be able to find a spare HDD and try that...
[04:28] <unfknblvbl> i meant
[04:29] <brian98> then ctrl - alt - f7
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> you still get soem money form the govt. if your studying
[04:29] <oxygene_> brian98, is /etc/X11/xorg.conf read-only?
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> not dole but someting close to it
[04:29] <brian98> not if you sudo it
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> unless your parents are earning big
[04:29] <feross> birdfish: uhm like postmap? I know that creates db files.
[04:29] <oxygene_> yeah, so he should be able to test it without actually installing ubuntu
[04:29] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: Define "big".
[04:29] <brian98> Arafangion, after you make those changes ctrl alt backspace to restart x
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> unfknblvbl: What country is this that you get free money?
[04:29] <brian98> and you should be having a small chuckle
[04:29] <unfknblvbl> oh right australia
[04:30] <Arafangion> brian98: I'm not a linux newbie, just worried that getting it to work on this particular system might be more work than I care to do.
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> forgot this is not ozzie channel
[04:30] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: I'm Aussie.
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> yeh
[04:30] <birdfish> feross: well, I'm not sure if I need postmap or not.  But I'm trying to create a db file for vsftpd so that I can enable virtual users support =] 
[04:30] <oxygene_> Arafangion, just trying will be probably faster than discussing for hours ;)
[04:30] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: APparently my parents earn too much, but that sentiment is only shared by Centerlink.
[04:30] <brian98> Arafangion, half the fun on older systems sometimes
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> when i wasn't working i got money even though i was full time student, infact i ahd to be full time to get it
[04:30] <brian98> Arafangion, but it will run so much nice
[04:30] <Aaroncn> kjm: I think my problem is that I don't know how to correctly configure vmware.
[04:30] <brian98> r
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> er
[04:30] <unfknblvbl> then get your parents to buy you the damn hub
[04:30] <Arafangion> brian98: Back in the day I would attempt to get Gentoo working on a 64MB system.
[04:31] <feross> birdfish: yeah I would look into it.
[04:31] <sureshot> ok i am on a webpage that says to add this line to my repository list.. (sources.list) file.. this is the line i am putting in deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper when i try to install the packages it says the line is malformed Help ???
[04:31] <Arafangion> brian98: That day has come and gone ;)
[04:31] <cpl-tnt44> i got a problem installing WinXP SP2 on my laptop ... it stuck from an HD install on the copying files stage .. what should i do ?
[04:31] <kjm> Aaroncn -  well -  that would probably be a start.
[04:31] <unfknblvbl> there is one other path, is your computer insured Arafangion ?
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> cpl-tnt44, you do know what channel is this right ?
[04:31] <brian98> Arafangion, ubuntu has run out of the box on every system that I've tried in the past 6 months on older boxes sure you need to change some settings etc.... But try installing windowsxp on that box and see how you get on
[04:32] <cpl-tnt44> i know ,im trying to install combined XP and ubuntu
[04:32] <brian98> and I'm not a windows basher btw
[04:32] <cpl-tnt44> i  need xp for stockmarkets program since ubuntu cant run internet explorer...
[04:32] <G_Dragon> Alright, fixed.
[04:32] <G_Dragon> Thanks!
[04:32] <xenoNfluX> brian98, ditto :)
[04:32] <Aaroncn> kjm: i follow this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84275.html guide,but it doesn't work to me.
[04:32] <oxygene_> yes but asking here for windows xp help is not the right place ;)
[04:32] <phargle> ubuntu could run ie
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> cpl-tnt44, we can help after you have successfully installed win XP ... but not with installation of win XP ..
[04:32] <mkquist> G-Dragon - glad to help
[04:32] <birdfish> feross: sure =)  And while I'm at it, if I wanted to go ahead and install a version of the Berkely DB, does it really matter whether I go with db3 or db4?
[04:33] <brian98> unfknblvbl, that was a tabloid setup
[04:33] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[04:33] <unfknblvbl> thats okay
[04:33] <unfknblvbl> we all have secrets
[04:33] <xenoNfluX> cpl, talk to me in private
[04:33] <xenoNfluX> I MIGHT be able to help
[04:33] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:33] <cpl-tnt44> thanks
[04:33] <sureshot> ok i am on a webpage that says to add this line to my repository list.. (sources.list) file.. this is the line i am putting in deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper when i try to install the packages it says the line is malformed Help ???
[04:33] <brian98> unfknblvbl, that was a vista cd ;)
[04:33] <brian98> lol
[04:33] <feross> birdfish: I'm not sure about that.
[04:33] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:34] <cpl-tnt44> Xeno come privet
[04:34] <sureshot> brian98 as long it is a ms cd that is fine with me lol
[04:34] <birdfish> feross: okay, thanks anyhow dude =] 
[04:34] <feross> sure
[04:34] <THX-1138> Hi feross
[04:34] <feross> hello
[04:34] <xenoNfluX> cpl-tnt44, where at?
[04:34] <xenoNfluX> I just sent you a PM
[04:34] <lufis> Since most sound cards can do hardware mixing, what is a sound server needed for?
[04:34] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 , i got the files , now i got some sort of boot disket that winxp cant read ...
[04:35] <kjm> sureshot - pastebin your whole sources.list
[04:35] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, ok
[04:35] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 , should i simply copy the files on the iso cd of ubuntu to a folder ?
[04:35] <sureshot> how do i use past bin kjm
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[04:35] <kjm> !pastebin > sureshot
[04:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:35] <brian98> unfknblvbl, you need to format a: /sys first
[04:35] <brian98> sory unfknblvbl
[04:35] <unfknblvbl> brain98 0.o
[04:36] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, you need to format a: /sys first to make it bootable then copy the files on
[04:36] <Arafangion> Brendon: WinXP on that box? Hahahahaha!
[04:36] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, easier
[04:36] <Arafangion> Brendon: You were joking, right?
[04:36] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, go to bootdisk.com
[04:36] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 ... the raw and the imz u gave aint bootable ?
[04:37] <brian98> I'm a bit lost can you remind me again where I sent you :S
[04:37] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 , 2nd Q , what files i copy to where ?
[04:37] <brian98> so I don't have to scroll back !
[04:37] <Arafangion> Brendon: For most boot floppies on windows, I recommend rawwrite.
[04:37] <cpl-tnt44> u sent me to download rawrite2.exe sbm.bin
[04:37] <rustlerharv> oxygene_: i still cant get it to open
[04:37] <brian98> ahh yes
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> to install ubuntu from a HD
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> not from a bootable cd
[04:38] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, no
[04:38] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, did you follow the tutorial?
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[04:38] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, from a cd that your bios won't let you boot from ?
[04:38] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> no ...
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> i have a laptop with NO CD-ROM installed at all !
[04:38] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, php4 or php5?
[04:39] <rustlerharv> 5
[04:39] <cpl-tnt44> and i was asking how to install ubuntu from a none bootable source
[04:39] <oxygene_> you did sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[04:39] <rustlerharv> the php works
[04:39] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, ye
[04:39] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, yes
[04:39] <brian98> do you have a cd-rom?
[04:39] <oxygene_> but what's wrong then?
[04:39] <rustlerharv> i just did the test
[04:39] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, but non bootable
[04:39] <rustlerharv> looks like phpmyadmin
[04:40] <oxygene_> what's the URL in your browser?
[04:40] <sureshot> kjm it is in postbin but how do you see it
[04:40] <oxygene_> postbin gives you a link, sureshot
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> sureshot, you paste to us the link ...
[04:40] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 , No i dont a cd rom drive , yes i have a bootable disk of ubuntu
[04:40] <brian98> what kind of disk
[04:40] <brian98> ?
[04:40] <rustlerharv> URL to what
[04:40] <cpl-tnt44> regular cd
[04:40] <sureshot> i figured that out sorry kjm there is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25369/
[04:40] <xenoNfluX> a laptop with a cd-rom that's not bootable... eh?
[04:40] <oxygene_> what do you type in firefox to see your page that ist not working?
[04:41] <xenoNfluX> are you sure you checked the boot order in the BIOS?
[04:41] <cpl-tnt44> No a lap top with no cd room at all !!!
[04:41] <brian98> But you have no cd-rom in your pc
[04:41] <rustlerharv> http://localhost/phpmadmin
[04:41] <cpl-tnt44> in my PC i have a cd rom
[04:41] <unfknblvbl> how do u check what version of gnome your running ?
[04:41] <oxygene_> what kind of error do you get, rustlerharv ?
[04:41] <brian98> ok
[04:41] <sureshot> kjm it is line 34 that is malformed
[04:41] <rustlerharv> it tries to dl the phtml file
[04:41] <brian98> ok
[04:41] <oxygene_> it is .phtml?
[04:41] <rustlerharv> instead of opeing int
[04:41] <oxygene_> not .php?
[04:42] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:42] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, any  usb mem hdds
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> ok ok ?
[04:42] <oxygene_> that will be the problem
[04:42] <feross> cpl-tnt44: sounds difficult
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> YES
[04:42] <rustlerharv> phtml is a php file i belive
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> usb 1.1
[04:42] <eetfunk> can anyone point me to a good php4/fastcgi/apache2/ubuntu tutorial?  I found this one: http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4 but it doesnt seem to work.  When I access a php file, it tries to download it instead of actually running it
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> no boot from desktop on that ...
[04:42] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, one sec
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> !lamp
[04:42] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:43] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, do you have a file /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf?
[04:43] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, this is a bit of a read
[04:43] <cpl-tnt44> Situation is like this : Laptop Compaq Armada M300 , External Floopy drive (COM1) ,NO CDROM  DRIVE ...
[04:43] <sureshot> kjm did you get the post sorry to push just dont know what to do
[04:43] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[04:43] <birdfish> Anyone here know about PureFTP?
[04:43] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, you ready to give it a go!
[04:43] <brian98> ?
[04:43] <cpl-tnt44> yeap !
[04:43] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html
[04:43] <cpl-tnt44> give it to me baby
[04:44] <cpl-tnt44> can u just say a few words on that , what is the general idea ?
[04:44] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:44] <oxygene_> for php4 it should contain a line like "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3"
[04:44] <oxygene_> it will be similar for you
[04:44] <oxygene_> add .phtml
[04:44] <oxygene_> to the line
[04:44] <eetfunk> wickedpuppy: this is for mod_php, i need fastcgi
[04:44] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, is there any os on the machine at the moment
[04:44] <brian98> ?
[04:44] <wickedpuppy> !fastcgi
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fastcgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <rustlerharv> its there
[04:45] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, then save it, and restart apache once again
[04:45] <rustlerharv> ^
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> eetfunk, guess no link here for the fastcgi ...
[04:45] <feross> cpl-tnt44: I hope it has a network card... installing ubuntu from floppy would be rediculous ;P
[04:45] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, the problem was that .phtml is not a commonly used extension for php-files so apache did not know by default that these are .php files to be executed by the php-interpreter
[04:46] <brian98> what feross said!
[04:46] <rustlerharv> so how do we fix it
[04:46] <oxygene_> feross, I remember installing windows95 from like 16 floppies... that was fun!
[04:46] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 nope
[04:46] <feross> floppies hehe
[04:46] <brian98> what pc are you on now!
[04:46] <cpl-tnt44> a good one...
[04:46] <brian98> what operating system
[04:46] <cpl-tnt44> XP SP2 , AMD
[04:47] <brian98> how pc proficient are you?
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> my HD from the laptop is on that PC
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> now..
[04:47] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, as I told you. edit /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf
[04:47] <brian98> ahhhh
[04:47] <brian98> you never said that
[04:47] <rustlerharv> what you told me to edit was there
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> PC tech guy for 7 years
[04:47] <brian98> you could use pxe
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> i am now...
[04:47] <oxygene_> add .phtml at the end of the line containing x-httpd-php add
[04:47] <brian98> but if you have the install hdd in that pc now
[04:47] <brian98> then!
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> i never tried it and i dont think it has a network card...
[04:48] <oxygene_> ah, sorry, i didn't read it
[04:48] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, set it as the default hdd
[04:48] <oxygene_> what does the line say?
[04:48] <cpl-tnt44> thought in the boot it shows PXE on laptop
[04:48] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, then boot from the cd
[04:48] <brian98> and setup ubuntu on the hdd from laptop
[04:48] <vilefridge> quick question-  Let's say I have Windows previously installed on hda and just Ubuntu installed on hdb.  Where did the bootloader go?
[04:48] <cpl-tnt44> the small 2.5 inch as a default ?
[04:48] <sureshot> kjm are you on
[04:48] <brian98> yes
[04:48] <vilefridge> hda or hdb?
[04:48] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, when it's finished installing
[04:49] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, reboot.
[04:49] <brian98> then power down
[04:49] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, check if there is a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to the file in mods-available
[04:49] <brian98> and swap hdd's back
[04:49] <cpl-tnt44> u mean just to let it drop the files ...
[04:49] <brian98> no go through the setup
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> brian98, perhaps if you say all this in one line .. he can understand it better ?
[04:49] <cpl-tnt44> and when it done and reboots bring it back to the laptop
[04:49] <sureshot> ok i am on a webpage that says to add this line to my repository list.. (sources.list) file.. this is the line i am putting in deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper when i try to install the packages it says the line is malformed Help ???
[04:49] <rustlerharv> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3
[04:49] <brian98> wickedpuppy,
[04:49] <brian98> Ok
[04:49] <cpl-tnt44> brian
[04:50] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, make your 2.5 your primary, then install ubuntu from cd onto it. When it finishes installing let it reboot. Then after ubuntu gracefully exits and you get the bios screen back power down the machine and put the 2.5 back into the laptop.
[04:50] <brian98> wickedpuppy,  better?
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> yeap
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> brian98, amazing :P
[04:51] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, you wanna try it?
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> i just wrote it down back :)
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> i am already on it...
[04:51] <MrWok> Hi
[04:51] <brian98> wickedpuppy, Sarcasm...
[04:51] <brian98> tut tut
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> i just need to find my 2.5 inch to 3.5inch plugger
[04:51] <sureshot> ok i am on a webpage that says to add this line to my repository list.. (sources.list) file.. this is the line i am putting in deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper when i try to install the packages it says the line is malformed Help ???
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:52] <rustlerharv> oxygene_: cgi.load  php5.conf  php5.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load
[04:52] <oxygene_> sureshot, try adding main to the last line in your sources.list
[04:52] <rustlerharv> thats what i have
[04:52] <cpl-tnt44> since u cant connect to laptop HDD to a PC...
[04:52] <MrWok> I have just started up Xubuntu, and it auto detects my NIC, and I can access my routers page, but not any web pages. Any ideas?
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> but reading line after line can be very painful ... and prone to mistake
[04:52] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, that's really strange.
[04:52] <brian98> I know
[04:52] <brian98> apologies
[04:52] <brian98> just when it's coming out sometimes you hit enter
[04:52] <cpl-tnt44> accepted... its YOM KIPOR
[04:53] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, are you sure that restarting works?
[04:53] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, I thought you had it connected already
[04:53] <feross> MrWok: you probably don't have DNS setup
[04:53] <sureshot> oxygene i will try that if you wish to see the whole file here is the postbin url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25369/
[04:53] <rustlerharv> no error messages apear
[04:53] <oxygene_> try sudo apache2ctl stop, then check with ps aux|grep apache2 if apache is dead
[04:53] <oxygene_> and then sudo apache2ctl start ist back
[04:53] <MrWok> feross, would that be with my router or xubuntu
[04:54] <oxygene_> MrWok, does your router support DHCP?
[04:55] <MrWok> Yeah
[04:55] <oxygene_> and it's turned on?
[04:55] <MrWok> The router is fine, I'm using it with my Win XP box now.
[04:55] <MrWok> Yeah
[04:55] <rustlerharv> oxygene_:  should i not get anything when i do the ps thing
[04:55] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, yes
[04:55] <feross> MrWok: look at your /etc/network/interfaces file.. the network card that connects to the internet should have something like iface eth1 inet dhcp
[04:55] <MrWok> The Xubuntu has got the ip 192.168.1.3 it can access the router setup pages just not web pages
[04:55] <Rasta> :( seems that running photoshop with wine doesnt seems to work well
[04:55] <oxygene_> could you please post the output of "ifconfig" and "route" to pastebin?
[04:55] <rustlerharv> lance     9534  0.0  0.0   2804   752 pts/1    R+   22:54   0:00 grep apache2
[04:55] <rustlerharv> i get that
[04:55] <sureshot> ok what does the uname -r mean in a install line
[04:55] <oxygene_> thats ok rustlerharv
[04:56] <mneptok> MrWok: can you access web sites by IP address instead of name?
[04:56] <MrWok> One sec
[04:56] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, I'm out of ideas :/
[04:56] <oxygene_> did you create any virtualhosts or custom aliases or the like?
[04:56] <kbee> sureshot: means get the linux kernel release
[04:57] <MrWok> mneptok: I can indeed
[04:57] <oxygene_> or is it the phpmyadmin from the ubuntu package?
[04:57] <mneptok> MrWok: then your problem is DNS
[04:57] <MrWok> How can I fix this?
[04:57] <rustlerharv> ya
[04:57] <brian98> wickedpuppy, how are you on wired IP issues?
[04:57] <sureshot> kbee do i just type it the way it shows uname -r or do i type somthing else there
[04:57] <mneptok> MrWok: in a Linux terminal, "cat /etc/resolv.conf" (no quotes)
[04:57] <brian98> weird
[04:57] <brian98> I meant
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> wired IP issue ?
[04:57] <mneptok> MrWok: that will tell you the DNS servers that Xubuntu knows about.
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> i never had any IP issue ...
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:58] <sureshot>     sudo apt-get install linux-dri-modules-common \
[04:58] <sureshot>     linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[04:58] <brian98> not to worry
[04:58] <kbee> sureshot: just   uname  -r   and carriage return  should display your current  linux kernel
[04:58] <rustlerharv> i got it
[04:58] <sureshot> sorry did not mean to do that but kbee that is the line
[04:58] <bun-bun> hi channel: if anyone plays counter-strike on linux i would like some info
[04:58] <brian98> just have a small annoyance here but it's not stopping me doing anything
[04:58] <rustlerharv> root is pissing me off
[04:58] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, ?
[04:58] <kbee> i thought you were doing this standalone
[04:59] <rustlerharv> i cant do anything without sudo
[04:59] <MrWok> mneptok: That doesn't work
[04:59] <brian98> rustlerharv, whats up
[04:59] <mneptok> MrWok: define "doesn't work"
[04:59] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, well you can't do anything that requires superuser priviledges without sudo
[04:59] <mneptok> rustlerharv: sudo su
[05:00] <rustlerharv> inorder to install anything you need to be root and when you do that you have to be root to use anyhting
[05:00] <MrWok> "cat: /etc/resolv.conf no such file or directory"
[05:00] <Arafangion> mneptok: You should be skinned alive!
[05:00] <MrWok> Was that meant to be resolve?
[05:00] <brian98> rustlerharv, whats the prob?
[05:00] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: What do you mean, "have to be root to use anything"?
[05:00] <oxygene_> yup, just start a bash session with sudo
[05:00] <brian98> you don't have to be root to use anything
[05:00] <mneptok> MrWok: uhhh ... you don;t have a file named /etc/resolv.conf ?
[05:00] <oxygene_> "sudo su" or "sudo bash" will do the trick
[05:01] <MrWok> No
[05:01] <brian98> os sudo -i
[05:01] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Just use "sudo apt-get install <whatever>", and that should be all you need.
[05:01] <mkquist> rustlerharv - new from windowz?
[05:01] <rustlerharv> ive been on since warty
[05:01] <warlock__> Anyone know where I can get help with building a shuttle?
[05:01] <rustlerharv> end of warty
[05:02] <bun-bun> if anyone is knowledgeable about half-life / counterstrike for linux i would appreciate your feedback
[05:02] <MrWok> Source or 1.6 bun-bun?
[05:02] <rustlerharv> i know you can get root privliges but i need it to do anything
[05:02] <bun-bun> 1.6
[05:02] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, define "anything"
[05:02] <mkquist> rustlerharv - what do u mean?
[05:02] <brian98> bun-bun http://lhl.linuxgames.com/howto/half-life-HOWTO-0.5.html
[05:02] <MrWok> I knew someone who has tried to get source working, and I heard about someone who was running it on 64 bit Gentoo
[05:03] <bun-bun> mainly, i want to know if there are linux binaries for hl/cs or if i should run it in wine
[05:03] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Running Firefox doesn't need root access, for one thing, so I'm finding it hard to figure out what you mean by "anything".
[05:03] <mneptok> MrWok: sudo echo search home > /etc/resolv.conf && sudo echo 204.60.0.2 >> /etc/resolv.conf && sudo echo 204.60.0.3 >> /etc/resolv.conf
[05:03] <rustlerharv> i need it to run gaim
[05:03] <bun-bun> brian98: thanks for the link
[05:03] <brian98> um
[05:03] <rustlerharv> and anything i install
[05:03] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, no, you dont
[05:03] <brian98> bun-bun, hope it helps ;)
[05:03] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Gaim works fine without root.
[05:03] <mkquist> rustlerharv - u shouldnt
[05:03] <rustlerharv> if i dont it wont connect to the internet
[05:03] <oxygene_> anything to install globally on your system, yes
[05:03] <oxygene_> but not for gaim
[05:04] <rustlerharv> im runnign beta 2
[05:04] <Arafangion> brian98: Come to think of it, I'm starting to think that he DID for some obscene reason initially run some things as root that he shouldn't have, and now he has various ~/.<files> owned by root.
[05:04] <mneptok> MrWok: you can substitute the DNS server addresses Windows uses for the ones i gave you
[05:04] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Try this: mkdir ~/configuration_backup
[05:04] <brian98> Arafangion, sounds about possible
[05:04] <mkquist> rustlerharv - im with brian98 on this one
[05:04] <SonicChao> Hi, I need an emulator for Ubuntu that will play GameBoy games (Pokemon Yellow)
[05:05] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Move all your 'dot files' and 'dot directories' into ~/configuration_backup
[05:05] <brian98> SonicChao, google is your best mate!
[05:05] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: You will probably have to do that as root if my guess is correct.
[05:05] <SonicChao> I've tried Google. None of them work. >>
[05:05] <Arafangion> rustlerharv: Then, now that you have no more "dot files", as it's all been moved to ~/configuration_backup, try restarting your session, and then running your programs as the normal user they should be run as!
[05:05] <taran> Hello.... can anyone help me with installing ubuntu so that my wife can still use Windows XP?
[05:05] <warlock__> Anyone know where I can get help with building a shuttle?
[05:06] <xenoNfluX> sonicchao, tried www.zophar.net ?
[05:06] <SonicChao> xenoNfluX: No
[05:06] <brian98> rustlerharv, if you type who at the console what username do you get back
[05:06] <MrWok> Well what's there to know really warlock_?
[05:06] <bun-bun> warlock__: www.nasa.gov
[05:06] <warlock__> hi, I'm 10 years old and my name is bun-bun.
[05:06] <mneptok> taran: what hep do you need?
[05:06] <rustlerharv> all me
[05:06] <xenoNfluX> lol, nice one bun-bun
[05:07] <rustlerharv> were am i moving dot files from
[05:07] <MrWok> I was going to say that earlier.
[05:07] <taran> Well, I'm not sure where to instal Ubuntu at... my F drive, or the partition(M:) on my main HD(C:)
[05:07] <Arafangion> taran: The key phrase is "dual-boot", I suggest you backup your system, with the assumption that the installation will kill it (Very unlikely, but I'm a pedantic person), install Ubuntu, resize your windows partitions to give room, and see how that works.
[05:07] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, try this: ls -alF /home/your_username |grep root
[05:07] <MrWok> warlock_ buy the parts and case, and fit it together. It's hardly rocket science (pun unintended)
[05:07] <bun-bun> :D
[05:07] <mneptok> taran: how many physical drives does your computer have?
[05:08] <taran> 2
[05:08] <Arafangion> taran: If windows got messed up, try deleting everything, install windows in a much smaller partition, reserving about 6 GB or however much you think you'll need for Ubuntu, then install Ubuntu in the free space.
[05:08] <oxygene_> that should show you all files owned by root
[05:08] <jo3y> ubuntu owns
[05:08] <brian98> rustlerharv, what username comes back
[05:08] <mneptok> taran: and where do you want Ubuntu? how much space do you want to give it? and where is Windows in all this?
[05:08] <UKMatt> How do you make a password protected archive in UB?
[05:08] <rustlerharv> root
[05:09] <brian98> mkquist, :)
[05:09] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Erm... You don't. YOu encrypt the file, just like anything else.
[05:09] <brian98> Arafangion, :)
[05:09] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, are you in a console started by sudo su or sudo bash?
[05:09] <rustlerharv> no
[05:09] <UKMatt> arafangion, hows that?
[05:09] <oxygene_> so you logon as root already?
[05:09] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Unless you want the crap-as-hell "password protected" zip archives, or the _joke_ ms word password protections?
[05:09] <taran> my main drive is a 200 gig, partitioned into ... uumm... roughly 80 and 120... (80 being my C drive and the residing place of Windows)
[05:09] <oxygene_> that is not default ubuntu behaviour since root has no password in standard ubuntu
[05:09] <brian98> oxygene_,  what about chmod his files to be rwx by his own username ?
[05:10] <UKMatt> arafangion, well how do you do.. both?
[05:10] <Arafangion> UKMatt: What do you mean?
[05:10] <mneptok> taran: k. do you use all space on both drives in Windows?
[05:10] <oxygene_> he could just re-own them to his main user account, too.
[05:10] <brian98> Ok
[05:10] <UKMatt> arafangion, alright nm i figured out how to do the .zip password, but how do you encrypt the file like you said
[05:11] <oxygene_> but if he already logs in as root, something more is screwed up ;)
[05:11] <taran> well, the M drive (the 120) just has videos on it
[05:11] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Why the heck are you depending your security on .zip password encryption?
[05:11] <oxygene_> taran, first of all: do backups
[05:11] <brian98> rustlerharv, http://www.linuxforums.org/security/file_permissions.html
[05:11] <rustlerharv> it hasnt acted any differnt from when in install dapper freash
[05:11] <brian98> have a good read
[05:11] <UKMatt> arafangion, no no i'm not, you said there was another way?
[05:12] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, do you already login as root (you know, when the login-screen comes)?
[05:12] <mneptok> taran: the tricky bit is that Ubuntu needs blank, unpartitioned space. wherever it's going to go, that space needs to be free space on the physical drive. not empty space in a partition you already use from Windows.
[05:12] <rustlerharv> no
[05:12] <rustlerharv> you cant
[05:12] <oxygene_> ah, okay
[05:12] <Arafangion> UKMatt: I don't bother with encryption, but I believe that gpg is the traditional way to do it these days.
[05:12] <oxygene_> good. indeed you can, but not without changing ubuntus standard behaviour ;)
[05:12] <SonicvanaJr> Is there a way to stop x, I know ctrl-alt-backspace, but it restarts soon after. Can I just stop it ?
[05:12] <MrWok> mneptok: None of that works.
[05:12] <rustlerharv> i know that
[05:12] <brian98> rustlerharv, then either reinstall if you have just installed or use http://www.linuxforums.org/security/file_permissions.html to make the files belong to your own user/group
[05:13] <oxygene_> SonicChao, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:13] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Alternatively, you could get yourself a random pad, and XOR every bit.
[05:13] <lunaphyte> hi
[05:13] <taran> Well, can I use my other physical drive?
[05:13] <UKMatt> arafangion, well how do i do any of those
[05:13] <kbee> SonicvanaJr:  init 3
[05:13] <mneptok> MrWok: what about "nslookup cnn.com 204.60.0.3" ?
[05:13] <aGee> is it possible to game on wine, not no hardcore games, something like starcraft, etc
[05:13] <UKMatt> arafangion, i'm just looking for some type of decent encryption to do
[05:13] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Then lock that pad in a safe, never to be reused again.   (This form of encryption is proveably unbreakble)
[05:13] <SonicvanaJr> kbee, elaborate ?
[05:13] <taran> I can move stuff from that to the M drive partition
[05:13] <oxygene_> UKMatt, don't take the random pad seriously ;)
[05:13] <torchie> yay, I got ubuntu running!
[05:13] <rustlerharv> is there an easy fay to change every file to my user group
[05:13] <rustlerharv> way*
[05:13] <torchie> now I may have another working computer
[05:13] <torchie> I wonder what I should do with it
[05:14] <kbee> at a console window  type   init  3  and you should  exit all X windows
[05:14] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, chown your_username: files
[05:14] <Arafangion> UKMatt: I don't really know, I believe encryption is largely a waste of time - if it's sensitive information, I just don't post it on the net!
[05:14] <oxygene_> with the colon
[05:14] <mneptok> rustlerharv: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername
[05:14] <oxygene_> this changes both user and group
[05:14] <kbee> in a console window  type  init  3   the X server will exit
[05:14] <SonicChao> None of these work.
[05:14] <SonicChao> That site is down.
[05:14] <frogzoo> kbee: that's redhat - in debian, all runlevels are equal
[05:14] <UKMatt> arafangion, i need to send it to a friend...
[05:14] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Heck, even Mac OS X's full-system encryption is easily bypassed.
[05:15] <SonicChao> How do you emulate GB games in Ubuntu?
[05:15] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Does your friend use Linux?
[05:15] <kbee> well suse also has  init 3 and 5
[05:15] <UKMatt> arafangion, windows
[05:15] <frogzoo> SonicvanaJr: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:15] <MrWok> mneptok: that spits out a few IPs
[05:15] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...does anyone know how to create the default mailboxes stored in /var/spool/mail/username? For some reason they do not seem to exist
[05:15] <kbee> and I seem to remmeber doing init 3 and 5  in  kubuntu 6.06
[05:15] <SonicvanaJr> frogzoo, got it thanks
[05:15] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Gee, that sucks.  Best bet is to send him a CD.
[05:16] <frogzoo> Gevaudan82: the mb is auto created on rxing mail afaik
[05:16] <shriphani> how do i check which device drivers are loaded ?
[05:16] <torchie> I'll take votes!
[05:16] <rustlerharv> so that changed everthing im my home folder to my ownership
[05:16] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Traditionally, on linux/unix, people use ssh and scp for encrypted communications and encrypted file transfer.
[05:16] <torchie> *ahem*
[05:16] <frogzoo> shriphani: lsmod
[05:16] <Gevaudan82> frogzoo:  what do you mean by rxing mail afaik?
[05:16] <torchie> dear #ubuntu,
[05:16] <UKMatt> arafangion, alright well is there ANY kind of encryption i can do to send him a file thats easy on his end, it's not like top level pentagon stuff
[05:16] <shriphani> frogzoo, thx
[05:16] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, yes
[05:16] <torchie> what to do with this new working computer?
[05:16] <frogzoo> Gevaudan82: receiving
[05:16] <CookieReaver> Okay._I_have_something_of_a_dire_problem.
[05:16] <rustlerharv> but evertything istalled in the file system
[05:17] <mneptok> UKMatt: if it's not good encryption, why bother with the password at all?
[05:17] <shriphani> ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.
[05:17] <shriphani> [17212499.000000]  ibm_acpi: ec object not found
[05:17] <Gevaudan82> frogzoo:  hmm...been sending test mails to username@localhost and nothing seems to show up
[05:17] <Arafangion> mneptok++
[05:17] <frogzoo> torchie: install 6.06 Dapper & away you go
[05:17] <shriphani> thats seems very disorienting
[05:17] <torchie> I'm doing that right now frogzoo
[05:17] <brian98> I restarted dam x trying something out there for someone and it works!
[05:17] <torchie> ...crap!
[05:17] <shriphani> frogzoo, thats what dmesg says
[05:17] <brian98> who was asking about killing
[05:17] <brian98> x
[05:17] <torchie> the installer crashes whenever I open it
[05:17] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, you need superuser priviledges in order to install software and it should stay like that. but you could change the sudo behaviour so that it does not prompt you for your password if that annoys you
[05:17] <mneptok> UKMatt: GPG works on Windows, OSX, and every *nix variant you can think of. that's how you protect files.
[05:17] <UKMatt> ok i cant even read your name
[05:18] <Arafangion> mneptok: Cool.
[05:18] <UKMatt> alright thats a mn
[05:18] <brian98> anyway ctrl - alt - f1
[05:18] <torchie> AttributeError: NoneType object has no attribute 'replace'
[05:18] <brian98> sudo killall x-session-manager
[05:18] <rustlerharv> i really want to not have to use sudo to run programs once installed
[05:18] <kurt{canonical}> UKMatt: :P
[05:18] <Arafangion> UKMatt: I've never done encryption on windows, windows doesn't contain any tools whatsoever do do even the most basic task :(
[05:18] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, you don't have to
[05:18] <torchie> what is a brother to do!?
[05:18] <brian98> Arafangion, vista kinda does
[05:18] <oxygene_> you only need sudo for the installation itself
[05:18] <oxygene_> NEVER for using the software
[05:19] <oxygene_> unlinke it's administration stuff
[05:19] <Arafangion> brian98: I certainly hope so, after 30 years of progress.
[05:19] <brian98> lol
[05:19] <brian98> feck that makes me fell old!
[05:19] <frogzoo> torchie: you can try maybe disabling acpi
[05:19] <frogzoo> !fixinstall > torchie
[05:19] <brian98> Arafangion, it's an awful distro of windows
[05:19] <brian98> sorry offtopic
[05:19] <torchie> cool, cool
[05:19] <Arafangion> brian98: And even then, They _still_ don't include a compiler by default.
[05:19] <rustlerharv> ok then explain how i cant get gaim to connect to the internt without sudo or the who problem with the phpmyadmin was cuz i wasnt in a root firefox
[05:20] <UKMatt> alright this conversation went from a simple question to robble robble robble real quick, and it's going nowhere, so if someone wants to tell me how to do an encryption, regardless of whether or not MacGuyver could crack it, let me know, if not, forget it
[05:20] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, use sudo only for apt-get install'ing things and for modifying configuration files or the like
[05:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gparted > all
[05:20] <brian98> rustlerharv, resinstall if I was you
[05:20] <Arafangion> brian98: Arguments of user friendliness aside, even mac os x provides a compiler and IDE by default.
[05:20] <brian98> sorry easy way out
[05:20] <kurt{canonical}> UKMatt: i already did. GPG.
[05:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> MacGuyver. Haha
[05:20] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, maybe you just had to clear your browser cache
[05:20] <UKMatt> kurt{canonical}, but i don't know how to do that...
[05:20] <frogzoo> UKMatt: pgp
[05:20] <oxygene_> you don't need root priviledges for firefox. never
[05:20] <brian98> Arafangion, I don't disagree, I can pick this one up with you in offtopic whenever you like! I got lot's too say about it :)
[05:20] <oxygene_> it's even a security risk
[05:21] <CookieReaver> I_seem_to_have_disabled_my_space_key._How,_exactly_would_I_go_about_fixing_this_little_problem?
[05:21] <aSt3raL_> im trying to connect to mysql and i get this error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:21] <mneptok> UKMatt: http://www.gnupg.org/
[05:21] <oxygene_> press shift or crtl while reloading pages in firefox
[05:21] <Arafangion> UKMatt: The difference is that Linux users tend to be very pedantic, unless you just want rot13 encryption.
[05:21] <oxygene_> and do not start any application as root from now on
[05:21] <Arafangion> UKMatt: Or even double-rot13 encryption.
[05:21] <frogzoo> aSt3raL_: I guess you maybe mapped the space key to a function - sys -> prefs -> kb hotkeys
[05:21] <rustlerharv> ok so you right there how about gaim
[05:21] <oxygene_> gaim should connect without root priviledges too
[05:21] <CookieReaver> Yes.
[05:21] <mneptok> UKMatt: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.5.exe
[05:22] <rustlerharv> gaim works but wont connect to the internet
[05:22] <mneptok> UKMatt: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~twoaday/winpt.html
[05:22] <MrWok> mneptok: That gave a bunch of IPs
[05:22] <mneptok> UKMatt: you;ll also want Seahorse in Ubuntu. via Synaptic.
[05:22] <UKMatt> I can't open a .exe, i'm in UB
[05:22] <mneptok> MrWok: you have DNS issues. look in /etc/resolv/conf and see what's there.
[05:22] <Arafangion> UKMatt: That was for your friend.
[05:22] <Rasta> neat, just installed photoshop with wine, now how i know where it was installed so i can run it and make a launcher?
[05:22] <aSt3raL_> mapped the space key?
[05:23] <torchie> hmm
[05:23] <UKMatt> arafangion, oh
[05:23] <torchie> this old computer seems to take longer to boot up since I put this new hard drive in
[05:23] <brian98> brb
[05:23] <torchie> what exactly is acpi?
[05:23] <oxygene_> sorry, i got disconnected
[05:23] <aSt3raL_> im trying to connect to mysql and i get this error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:24] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, try running gaim in a console (not as root! check with "whoami" first)
[05:24] <oxygene_> and look for error messages
[05:24] <frogzoo> torchie: power mgt
[05:24] <mneptok> UKMatt: you;ll also want Seahorse in Ubuntu. via Synaptic. (x2)  your friend wants the Windows GPG stuff. then the stuff you send back and forth (files, e-mail, etc) will be not only password protected, but all but indecipherable except by government agencies with vast computing resources they do not want to dedicate to you .zip files.
[05:24] <Arafangion> aSt3raL_: Do you have access to that file, and is mysql running?
[05:24] <THX-1138> Rasta - does ctrl+h  (unhding directoris in your /home.) hlep?
[05:24] <torchie> wouldn't disabling power management be a bad thing?
[05:24] <aSt3raL_> how do i start/stop mysql?
[05:24] <Arafangion> torchie: Depends.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> torchie,  needed for some  machines at times. sadly
[05:24] <frogzoo> torchie: not if it's making the install fail
[05:25] <torchie> ah
[05:25] <torchie> ok
[05:25] <frogzoo> aSt3raL_: /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[05:25] <oxygene_> aSt3raL_, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[05:25] <oxygene_> year, or stop, or restart
[05:25] <oxygene_> *yeah
[05:25] <ootput> hi guys, while trying to setup my printer via the cups interface (localhost), it requests a user/password. Would the user be 'root', and if so, how do i enter a password for root?
[05:25] <aSt3raL_> theres no mysql in init.d
[05:26] <oxygene_> well, install mysql-server then
[05:26] <keegan> !restricted
[05:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <frogzoo> aSt3raL_: so you don't have mysql installed
[05:26] <Arafangion> ootput: I actually consider that a bug, imho, the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file (or whatever) should be modified to allow any user belonging to the admin group.
[05:26] <brian98> aSt3raL_, mysqladmin shutdown -p, --password=whatever
[05:26] <oxygene_> with sudo you can
[05:26] <brian98> whatever=your password obviously
[05:27] <oxygene_> that's a weak password ;)
[05:27] <brian98> whatever
[05:27] <brian98> no
[05:27] <brian98> who would guess that :)
[05:27] <keegan> I recently installed the Edgy Eft BETA and everytime I click on the upgrade icon it says I need to do a distupgrade.  Anyone know why it does this?
[05:27] <brian98> what password would you like mr managing director
[05:27] <brian98> erm
[05:27] <brian98> whatever
[05:27] <brian98> lol
[05:27] <oxygene_> keegan, which packages are kept back?
[05:28] <oxygene_> brian98, hehe
[05:28] <brian98> keegan, #ubuntu+1
[05:28] <torchie> o.O!?
[05:28] <torchie> checksums failed, press any key to restart your system
[05:28] <OSUKid7> hey, I need to forward the NIS/yp client over ssh to another server. I think I need to forward ports 111 and 773. I tried a standard ssh -L forward, but it looks like the local NIS agent already listens on port 111. anyone know how to do this?
[05:28] <yanger> i recently changed from another distro to ubuntu... when i play videos via Firefox with mozilla-mplayer, the video loads, and dies instantly... any fixes?
[05:28] <keegan> oxygene_: I do the Dist Upgrade but it says cannot find ubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <keegan> can't install not find
[05:29] <frogzoo> OSUKid7: no, but ethereal will help
[05:29] <oxygene_> join the channel #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <oxygene_> (yes, its a channel name)
[05:29] <yanger> oh, i can rightclick and save the video, and play it afterwards in g/mplayer but never in a browser..
[05:29] <deny_> ooo i thought it was an update
[05:29] <OSUKid7> frogzoo: how? I already (think) I know what ports it's on... ethereal can't redirect ports on the fly, can it?
[05:29] <torchie> hmm
[05:29] <factotum> anyone have any problems with rhythmbox closing its self when you try to import a dir or load mp3 files to the library?
[05:29] <torchie> what goes on in ubuntu+1?
[05:30] <frogzoo> OSUKid7: ethereal will show you exactly what's going on
[05:30] <factotum> I tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it and it still does it
[05:30] <brian98> torchie, it's for beta releases
[05:30] <unfknblvbl> ppl who have an IQ that is +1 higher than ours
[05:30] <brian98> like edgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggy
[05:30] <torchie> edgggggggggggggggggggggggy :O
[05:30] <brian98> which isn't as edgy as it sounds
[05:30] <brian98> :)
[05:30] <OSUKid7> frogzoo: right, but I already have a good idea... hence why I came here. basically if I can forward over ssh, it should work... but I can't forward a port if it's already in use.
[05:30] <brian98> though I do think it's a bad name
[05:31] <brian98> imagine microsoft edgy
[05:31] <torchie> I dunno
[05:31] <torchie> edgy eft sounds cooler than dapper drake
[05:31] <brian98> would get some abuse
[05:31] <torchie> I mean
[05:31] <Arafangion> brian98: People for some wierd reason confuse it with "Etch".
[05:31] <mneptok> wait until you hear the name of edgy+1 :/
[05:31] <torchie> we have D< but they
[05:31] <torchie> they have E!
[05:31] <brian98> ya
[05:31] <Arafangion> brian98: ie, I say I've been running Etch, and they keep thinking I'm saying Edgy.
[05:31] <oxygene_> I expect the next-next ubuntu to be furry, btw
[05:31] <torchie> furry frog?
[05:32] <torchie> fondly fang?
[05:32] <mneptok> you wish
[05:32] <brian98> i just thought edgy would put the general public of installing onto their machines
[05:32] <oxygene_> furry frog (=fellfrosch) (german rammstein insider)
[05:32] <Arafangion> brian98: Why would it?
[05:32] <factotum> im waiting for something like Ubunut 11.0.2 Slightly Moist Marmaset
[05:32] <torchie> Funky Flag!
[05:32] <factotum> Or Irate Tool Booth Guy
[05:32] <brian98> would your average person format their computer to install something called edgy
[05:32] <THX-1138> lol
[05:32] <torchie> Zonky Zoite
 would your average person format their computer to install something called edgy  <-- I would
[05:32] <Arafangion> brian98: Would the average person format their computer?
[05:32] <factotum> Tollbooth
[05:33] <Rasta> how i can change to a directory with a name like "Program Files" (with space) in the terminal?
[05:33] <brian98> ok ok
[05:33] <oxygene_> brian98, well, dapper is the LTS. edgy is for the freaks ;)
[05:33] <mneptok> this was my idea for edgy+1, but sabdfl denied me :/ - http://mneptok.com/pony-cd-cover.jpg
[05:33] <bruenig> I expect the next ubuntu to be sneaky snake
[05:33] <THX-1138> Program\ Files
[05:33] <Madpilot> Rasta, use the tab key - try Program<tab> to auto-complete
[05:33] <brian98> I thkn they should call it osxx
[05:33] <Rasta> THX
[05:33] <brian98> or osex
[05:33] <oxygene_> Rasta you can also write "Program Files"
[05:33] <brian98> hehe
[05:33] <factotum> meh, im content with a stable desktop. I leave the sandboxing to my FreeBSD P2 box
[05:33] <torchie> Snarky Snook
[05:33] <oxygene_> or Pro and press <Tab> and bash will complete it for you
[05:34] <Arafangion> brian98: "sex" is actually number six in french.
[05:34] <brian98> ok ok !offtopic!!!!
[05:34] <mneptok> of course, if edgy+1 was "the perfect pony" as i suggested, i would have to be the magical fairy princess.
[05:34] <jvai> god, i locked myself out of a folder, i had to load knoppix to change the permissions on it, now all's back to norm... linux is wonderful
[05:34] <keegan> No one is helping me in ubuntu+1 anyone know any other channels?
[05:34] <bruenig> nobody likes sneaky snake
[05:34] <bruenig> ubuntu+2
[05:34] <Arafangion> brian98: But I believe they pronounce their letters very differently, so the coincidence doesn't carry over to the spoken language.
[05:34] <unfknblvbl> ubuntu+2
[05:34] <Rasta> yeah that \ and tab worked
[05:34] <bruenig> dupe
[05:34] <brian98> well over the past two days I had a spare lappy to play with and installed edgy
[05:34] <torchie> Sexy Slope?
[05:34] <brian98> very smooth ride
[05:34] <Arafangion> brian98: Who the hell has "a spare laptop"?
[05:34] <factotum> Yes please!
[05:34] <brian98> Me
[05:34] <brian98> :)
[05:34] <torchie> I have 19 spare laptops
[05:35] <mneptok> Arafangion: the same people with "spare change"
[05:35] <Arafangion> brian98: You're *sick*
[05:35] <torchie> no wait, I don't have that kind of money
[05:35] <bruenig> rich people
[05:35] <SonicChao> Turns out I have to use Wine. That's silly, but oh well.
[05:35] <brian98> Arafangion, I work in netdev for an isp in ireland
[05:35] <factotum> Ive never owned a laptop :<
[05:35] <torchie> I have one laptop
[05:35] <shriphani_> i have a lappy with 3 missing keys
[05:35] <jvai> <-- thinkpad 600x, w/ a bad monitor as a spare
[05:35] <jo3y> would wine work with photoshop?
[05:35] <Arafangion> brian98: Actually, you're fine.  torchie's sick.
[05:35] <torchie> but it's the worst laptop ever created
[05:35] <shriphani_> thats all :)
[05:35] <torchie> I mean
[05:35] <factotum> Someday....when the kids are all grown up maybe Ill afford a lappy
[05:35] <torchie> it sounds like a leaf blower
[05:35] <Arafangion> factotum: Laptops are almost getting cheaper than PC's.
[05:35] <torchie> it hard lock ups every one to two days
[05:36] <pyrad> is 6.10 stable enough to upgrade to, or should i wait untill GA is released? i'm running 6.06 currently
[05:36] <factotum> even an old p2 or p3
[05:36] <Arafangion> factotum: Dell sells laptops for less than $1000 AUD.
[05:36] <oxygene_> pyrad: its quite stable for me
[05:36] <THX-1138> laptop? - notebook computer. - 2 cores are just too hot.
[05:36] <oxygene_> but it could be instable for you, still
[05:36] <brian98>  pyrad same here, but wait!
[05:36] <torchie> my next laptop will be a macbook
[05:36] <torchie> WILL WILL WILL
[05:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> Can I play m4a songs on xmms? Or do I have to convert them to mp3?
[05:36] <factotum> Kinda hard when the most i cold probably ever come up with is maybe $400 or $500
[05:36] <eyS_c0ld> anyone have any experience with tv tuners?
[05:36] <shriphani_> THX-1138, how tough is it to handle linux on ppc
[05:36] <brian98> I know I'm offtopic again but I notice edgy is using the same version of gnome as breezy
[05:36] <factotum> someday...
[05:36] <brian98> why so I wonder?
[05:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> !mp3
[05:36] <torchie> ARGH
[05:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:36] <Arafangion> torchie: Just be aware that any repair out-of-warrantee is unbelievably expensive.
[05:37] <pyrad> oxygene_: brian98: ah ok cool
[05:37] <oxygene_> pyrad, do not update unless you've backuped your data and have time for rescue action if needed
[05:37] <torchie> dammit.
[05:37] <THX-1138> shriphani - erm - i wouldn't - shh. - it is doable but it is a fight
[05:37] <brian98> or a spare laptop ;)
[05:37] <brian98> lol
[05:37] <skip> has anyone got an Intel 3945 device to work out of the box or is there some tweaking required?
[05:37] <Arafangion> torchie: Also, if you go with some non-apple warrantee, be prepared for some major politics.
[05:37] <vanberge> anybody usin 6.10 beta?  Im having trouble using ndiswrapper...
[05:37] <pyrad> oxygene_: mm k that does'nt sound very optimistic :)
[05:37] <shriphani_> so that leaves me to buy the intel imacs
[05:37] <torchie> So you know, ubuntu's all "ready to install, dawg?" and I'm all "*clicks english*" and ubuntu's like "ATTRIBUTEERROR: NONETYPE OBJECT HAS NO ATTRIBUTE 'REPLACE'"
[05:37] <shriphani_> imac ^
[05:37] <torchie> heh, story of my life
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'll stick to the ubuntu I have now.
[05:38] <vanberge> i run ndiswrapper, and then get the message "no versions of ndiswrapper found"... any ideas?
[05:38] <brian98> shriphani_, beats the purpoise
[05:38] <oxygene_> pyrad, it's the usual disclaimer
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> !language
[05:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> Haha
[05:38] <mneptok> skip: my 3945 works fine with no extra tweaking
[05:38] <pyrad> oxygene_: when is the GA released ?
[05:38] <THX-1138> !mac
[05:38] <brian98> vanberge, what have you done so far?
[05:38] <InfoSpy> anybody know why none of the program work  (they used) unless using root.
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <rredd4> vanberge  great, hopefully that will be fixed before final..  I use ndis..
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> Torchie that was pretty classic.
[05:38] <torchie> !sound
[05:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:38] <THX-1138> !macintosh
[05:38] <pyrad> oxygene_: how long do i have to wait for next stable one
[05:38] <vanberge> brian98: apt-get install ndiswrapper*
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macintosh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <CookieReaver> Okay._This_is_really_getting_on_my_nerves._How_do_I_get_my_space_key_back?
[05:38] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Why did you r
[05:38] <pyrad> oxygene_: i understand :)
[05:38] <jvai> lol
[05:38] <shriphani_> !apple
[05:38] <skip> mneptok: what version of Ubuntu?
[05:38] <THX-1138> !ubotu is amnesiac
[05:38] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Why did you run them as root?
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <brian98> have you tried sudo ndiswrapper
[05:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> You lost your space bar?
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is amnesiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <brian98> to see if it's even there
[05:39] <brian98> ?
[05:39] <jvai> smh
[05:39] <torchie> aaargh
[05:39] <vanberge> brian98: yeah...
[05:39] <brian98> ok
[05:39] <InfoSpy> they used to run just fine
[05:39] <torchie> I just wanted to install ubuntu!
[05:39] <mneptok> skip: dapper
[05:39] <brian98> did it install ok
[05:39] <jvai> !OS X
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OS X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> NEW DISC DAWG
[05:39] <torchie> what did I ever do to ubuntu for it to hate me
[05:39] <brian98> jvai: what do you want to know?
[05:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> torchie, did you pay your alimony?
[05:39] <oxygene_> pyrad, it's gonna be 6.10, so it should be out at the end of october
[05:39] <skip> mneptok: so what is the trick during installation?
[05:39] <mneptok> torchie: used words like "dawg" in public.
[05:39] <InfoSpy> them one day i booted and now when i open firefox, ooimpress, they don't run, but if i su and then run it does
[05:39] <torchie> No, I didn't! I swear!
[05:39] <brian98> 26th I think
[05:39] <vanberge> brian98: yes... just says "Error: No versions of ndiswrapper found"
[05:39] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: WHY DID YOU RUN THEM AS ROOT?
[05:39] <brian98> hrm
[05:39] <brian98> ok
 torchie: used words like "dawg" in public.  <-- ubuntu uses words like 'dawg' when you install it, and people love it
[05:40] <Arafangion> brian98: This seems to be a recurring theme. :(
[05:40] <mneptok> skip: i know of no trick
[05:40] <THX-1138> shriphani_: erm - sigh, is the image a long fight formiing?
[05:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> I wish it would use "Dawg"
[05:40] <CookieReaver> Sktfeelsdapper:_no,_the_ability_to_make_the_space_character_when_I_press_the_space,
[05:40] <brian98> can you just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper and tell me what it says in #xxxr
[05:40] <jvai> brian: i found out ubutu is an x86 only bot
[05:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> Keyboard not installed right maybe?
[05:40] <brian98> jvail *************SHOCK***********
[05:40] <InfoSpy> cuz if i run it from a regular user i just see an icon spinning for ever and then it doesnt open.
[05:40] <skip> mneptok: my card wasn't even detected
[05:40] <jvai> lol
[05:40] <phargle> how dare it not
[05:41] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Why did you run it as root the *first* time?
[05:41] <Madpilot> InfoSpy, so how did you break your system?
[05:41] <shriphani_> hmm THX-1138 ?
[05:41] <InfoSpy> i am not sure, cuz i always use sudo for everything.
[05:41] <mneptok> skip: what does ifconfig tell you?
[05:41] <vanberge> brian98: "couldnt find package ndiswrapper"
[05:41] <Arafangion> Madpilot: My guess, he ran some proggie as root, for some bizarre reason, and now some ~/.foo is owned by root.
[05:41] <arnducky> !download
[05:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:41] <CookieReaver> Well,_no,_it_WAS_fine._I'm_just_a_noob_and_mapped_something_else_there._Now_I_don't_know_how_to_remap_it.
[05:41] <vanberge> brian98: maybe i have ndiswrapper utils, but not the actual ndiswrapper... hmm.
[05:41] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Why do you use sudo for everything?
[05:41] <shriphani_> which image THX-1138
[05:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> Um.
[05:41] <skip> mneptok: eth0 and lo only
[05:41] <Madpilot> Arafangion, quite likely
[05:41] <brian98> ahh
[05:41] <brian98> sorry
[05:42] <brian98> can you just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils and tell me what it says in #xxxr
[05:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is there something in system > Administration or something?
[05:42] <InfoSpy> Aran, cuz i am a newbie heehe, and that what i read to do online.
[05:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I convert m4a into mp3's to burn?
[05:42] <mneptok> skip: my 3945 in my Thinkpad works without issue. maybe there's something in the BIOS, or something your manufacturer could tell you.
[05:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> Or just play, I don't know if xmms can play those.
[05:42] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Try: "sudo chown InfoSpy ~/ -R"
[05:42] <shriphani_> Sktfeelsdapper, get the plugins for playing m4a
[05:42] <Madpilot> InfoSpy, only ever run stuff with sudo when you actually *need* to - apps like Firefox & OOo should never need to be run w/ sudo...
[05:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know if I do have them or not.
[05:42] <jvai> i'll be  @ a lost again when i upgrade, ouch, i'm on ubuntu 5.04 still, but i'm goin straight to dapper next year
[05:43] <bruenig> wouldn't it be chown -R?
[05:43] <THX-1138> shriphani_: I si possible. many have done it. - It just isn't as easy as popping in a disk to get a comepletely working system.
[05:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> I quite possibly could, but then again.
[05:43] <vanberge> brian98: package ndiswrapper-utils is already at its newest version.
[05:43] <shriphani_> Sktfeelsdapper, you dun get the on a default install
[05:43] <InfoSpy> thanks Mad, let me try what arafan says
[05:43] <shriphani_> THX-1138, i see
[05:43] <CookieReaver> Nothing_that_I_know_of_in_Administration...
[05:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> Oh no, I've downloaded alot media plugins.
[05:43] <brian98> vanberge, locate ndiswrapper
[05:43] <brian98> vanberge, sudo locate ndiswrapper
[05:43] <pyrad> oxygene_: ok thanks
[05:43] <shriphani_> Sktfeelsdapper, go the ubuntu ressric formats page
[05:43] <shriphani_> !restricted > Sktfeelsdapper
[05:43] <skip> mneptok: ok, thanks. I've heard good stories about Thinkpads. Unfortunately I'm running a Toshiba with a non-Toshiba BIOS
[05:43] <InfoSpy> thankssssssssssssssssss
[05:44] <oxygene_> InfoSpy, stop using sudo for everything
[05:44] <brian98> bruenig, why would they do that?
[05:44] <InfoSpy>  i will stop, i am just learning
[05:44] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Do you understand why it did that?
[05:44] <bruenig> I don't know but they do, *cough* CookieReaver
[05:44] <CookieReaver> I_don't_HAVE_ANY_SPACES._Other_wise_I'd_be_using_them.
[05:44] <oxygene_> use sudo ONLY to apt-get install things for example
[05:44] <oxygene_> or to edit configuration files in /etc
[05:44] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: sudo means "Run the following program as the super user".
[05:44] <Madpilot> InfoSpy, have a look through the first few sections of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for use of sudo
[05:44] <brian98> or to locate files
[05:44] <vanberge> brian98: i don't see any binaries... thats odd.  some stuff under kernel headers, then some stuff under modules
[05:45] <oxygene_> to locate files?
[05:45] <bruenig> I thought sudo meant super user do
[05:45] <yanger> ah, my video issues fixed ;) forgot to change my audio device ;\ darned multiconfigs of mplayer
[05:45] <Madpilot> bruenig, Arafangion was paraphrasing ;)
[05:45] <Rasta> ok, i have installed wine trough synaptic and the i installed photoshop with wine all without problems, the thing its that when i try to run photoshop in the terminal (wine Photoshop.exe) i get this error and photoshop doesnt starts: fixme:actctx:QueryActCtxW stub! X Error of failed request:  BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device
[05:45] <kitche> bruenig: that;s what sudo stands for
[05:45] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: In your case, the "following program" needed to make or edit some configuration files in $HOME, hence, those configuration files were only accessible with super-user permissions.
[05:45] <brian98> ok vanberge sudo apt-get remove ndisiswrapper-utils
[05:45] <Rasta> there is something i have to configure or take care of?
[05:45] <torchie> sigh
[05:45] <bruenig> ah, a paraphrase which has 267% more words...
[05:45] <torchie> no ubuntu for me
[05:46] <Arafangion> InfoSpy: Which means that you, as a mere mortal, can't access them.
[05:46] <brian98> please paste the output into chanel #xxxr
[05:46] <shriphani_> Rasta, are you in the correct directory ?
[05:46] <InfoSpy> thanks
[05:46] <Arafangion> bruenig: The 'su' stands for "switch user".
[05:46] <Tokenbad> how can I make sure have the source for the current kernal installed?
[05:46] <Arafangion> bruenig: By default, to root.
[05:46] <bruenig> su does, but is it the same su as in sudo
[05:46] <kitche> Arafangion: su means super user
[05:46] <Arafangion> bruenig: I believe so, because I believe you can still specify the user in sudo.
[05:46] <Arafangion> killefiz: You sure?
[05:47] <bruenig> perhaps, doesn't matter
[05:47] <THX-1138> Arafangion: Was #wine on this server any help? vitamin if he isn't there now is worth waiting for as he is very knowledeable.
[05:47] <rredd4> kitche    what is the   -   for when i use su
[05:47] <Rasta> shriphani_,   .wine/drive_c/program files...
[05:47] <Arafangion> THX-1138: #winehq
[05:47] <THX-1138> Ah - Your right.
[05:48] <kitche> rredd4: it's a login shell it makes the system think the user logged on instead of just switching users
[05:48] <shriphani_> thats fine Rasta
[05:48] <Rasta> not that fine, photoshop doesnt runs :(
[05:48] <shriphani_> umm
[05:49] <Tokenbad> anyone know how to install the kernel source for the current kernel for ubuntu?
[05:49] <A-L-P-H-A> how does one add apps to the applications start bar thing?  I've used synaptics to install an app, but it's not in the start bar.
[05:49] <shriphani_> A-L-P-H-A, it should be there
[05:50] <brian98> A-L-P-H-A, applications - accessories - alacarte etccccc
[05:50] <A-L-P-H-A> brian98, checking... thanks.
[05:50] <THX-1138> A-L-P-H-A: alacarte menu editor? on the menu? or create a launcher by right clicking on the desk and dragging it to the top bar?
[05:50] <Tokenbad> anyone please?
[05:50] <A-L-P-H-A> shriphani_: um, no... "eagle layout" software isn't... odd.
[05:51] <mneptok> Tokenbad: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[05:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> no but seriously, is there a way to make m4a's into mp3's?
[05:51] <shriphani_> Sktfeelsdapper, maybe
[05:51] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, apt-get install linux-source
[05:51] <Tokenbad> mneptok, that will install for the current kernel?
[05:51] <oxygene_> too slow
[05:51] <rredd4> using Streamtuner with xmms, when I listen to stations Shoutcast stations, they sound distorted.  They never used to, anyone know why?  When I listen to Xiph, the sound is ok.
[05:52] <mneptok> Tokenbad: yes
[05:52] <mneptok> Tokenbad: it will also install source for future kernel updates
[05:52] <mneptok> (right now the current is 2.6.15)
[05:52] <oxygene_> for dapper
[05:52] <THX-1138> Sktfeelsdapper: mencoder - *might* be it. else convert to wave first.
[05:52] <Tokenbad> mneptok, thanks
[05:53] <slid3r> I need translation
[05:53] <slid3r> sorry fot the newbness of this
[05:53] <slid3r> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Samba_Server_for_files.2Ffolders_sharing_service
[05:54] <ciphex> when i try to remove the ALSA base and utils packages using Synaptic it tells me that gdm and ubuntu-base, minimal, desktop must be removed along with it... why?
[05:54] <slid3r> where is says system_username and system_username = "network username"
[05:54] <slid3r> what do they mean .. those literal words (if so I would have to add a user named that)
[05:54] <slid3r> or
[05:55] <Arafangion> kitche: Actually, I think su actually stands for "Set UID".
[05:55] <oxygene_> Rasta, which version of photoshop do you want to run?
[05:55] <slid3r> like slid3r = "slid3r"
[05:55] <Rasta> oxygene_, 7.0
[05:55] <oxygene_> system_username="slid3r"
[05:55] <kitche> Arafangion: well it means substitute user
[05:55] <oxygene_> rasta, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1336
[05:55] <Rasta> im getting some help on the #winehq channel
[05:56] <Arafangion> kitche: Where does it say that?
[05:56] <oxygene_> it's rated "platinum" for dapper =)
[05:56] <Rasta> ill be back in a minute and tell you if it worked
[05:56] <kitche> Arafangion in su man pages
[05:56] <Arafangion> kitche: Not on ubuntu.
[05:56] <Rasta> oxygene_, i know, thats good, as i have been told it something on x.conf
[05:57] <kitche> Arafangion: it should it says right under Name
[05:57] <slid3r> oxygene_: soo, then after that I would do sudo smbpasswd -a slid3r?
[05:57] <slid3r> or
[05:57] <slid3r> lol I feel dumb
[05:57] <Arafangion> kitche: It doesn't.  But the OpenBSD system I have does say "Substitute User Identity".
[05:57] <Arafangion> kitche: So I think you are correct. :) Still, wierd that hte Ubuntu man pages doesn't say it.
[05:57] <oxygene_> slid3r: i don't know samba
[05:57] <oxygene_> i have just guessed out of context
[05:58] <slid3r> its a pin
[05:58] <rredd4> kitche  su - change user ID or become super-user    first line in man page
[05:58] <slid3r> pain
[05:58] <FlyingSquirrel32> What is the user name you're log on to whn you use the LiveCD? O how can I tell the username of who's logged on?
[05:58] <oxygene_> FlyingSquirrel32, start a console and type "whoami"
[05:58] <kitche> Arafangion: but it can also mean super user depending on what context you use it in
[05:58] <FlyingSquirrel32> oxygene_: thanks
[05:58] <Arafangion> kitche: It is merely the default.
[05:58] <eetfunk> anyone here is experienced with apache2, mod_fastcgi and php4?  I can't get it to work (I can't use mod_php because it conflicts with mod_python)
[05:59] <THX-1138> FlyingSquirrel32:  userers, or sudo passwd will change a passwd. - default ubuntu live cd password. (shrug) someone else knows.
[05:59] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Why not just setup mod_php, anyway? (Use another apache server for mod_python)
[05:59] <THX-1138> users
[06:00] <ciphex> anyone know why Synaptic won't let me remove ALSA without removing gdm and Ubuntu packages also?
[06:00] <eetfunk> Arafangion: nah, fastcgi makes more sense for me.  2 apache servers would be overkill.
[06:00] <kitche> think the default password for livecd is random generated but I m not sure
[06:00] <Arafangion> eetfunk: How so?
[06:00] <Arafangion> eetfunk: You're probably effectively running 200
[06:01] <Arafangion> eetfunk: imho, mod_python is overkill, but don't let anyone know I said that ;)
[06:01] <mtholdenss> is there an edgy eft support channel?
[06:01] <rredd4> ubuntu+1
[06:01] <eetfunk> Arafangion: it's the best way to run python under apache afaik
[06:02] <oxygene_> well, gdm seems to depend on alsa-utls
[06:02] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Depends.
[06:02] <oxygene_> *utils
[06:02] <rredd4> myholdenss  #ununtu_1
[06:02] <Arafangion> eetfunk: mod_python is more for a python "application", that serves dynamic pages for a large variety of websites with the same script.
[06:02] <rredd4> +1
[06:02] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Which is very, very different to the php or cgi mentality.
[06:03] <Arafangion> eetfunk: And as such, one can't really say that it's the "best" way to run python under apache ;)
[06:03] <eetfunk> Arafangion: i have a django app running under mod_python
[06:03] <Arafangion> eetfunk: How do you find django?
[06:04] <brian98> if anyone is having probs with ndiswrapper under edgy use ndiswrapper-1.8 instead of just ndiswrapper at the cmd line, I know this isn't the edgy support channel but it's been coming up a bit...
[06:04] <eetfunk> Arafangion: I like Rails better, but Python is faster and it seems more stable/reliable in a production environment
[06:04] <eetfunk> this app was Ruby On Rails before and I ported it to Django because of countless stability/performance issues
[06:04] <Arafangion> eetfunk: mod_perl is supposed to be faster by a huge factor.
[06:04] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Second only to mod_php
[06:05] <Tokenbad> I did apt-get install linux-source and it installed...but when I do make...it says need a different source
[06:05] <siriusnova> gah i have to reinstall dapper
[06:05] <siriusnova> i hosed my upgrade to edgy eft :X
[06:05] <brian98> siriusnova, :(
[06:05] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Python is definetly more mature than ruby, in any regard. :)
[06:05] <Tokenbad> says I need source for Makefile:31: *** You'll need sources for your (at least 2.6.16) kernel.  Stop.
[06:06] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, what ist the output of uname -r ?
[06:06] <eetfunk> Arafangion: it is. and faster too
[06:06] <vanberge> brian98: tyvm again...
[06:06] <brian98> ?
[06:07] <brian98> what up?
[06:07] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, 2.6.15-27-386
[06:07] <Sktfeelsdapper> If I were to upgrade to some form of edgy would it destroy everything I've done right now?
[06:07] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Python 2.5 is reportedly significantly faster too :)
[06:07] <MrWok1> how can I search for a file?
[06:07] <eetfunk> Arafangion: didnt install it yet
[06:07] <oxygene_> MrWok, locate file
[06:07] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Nor have I, they've broken some binary compatibility, so I'm waiting it out a bit.
[06:08] <eetfunk> dont even know if it's compatible with django
[06:08] <MrWok1> That just lists every file I have.
[06:08] <MrWok1> I want to search for a file.
[06:08] <Arafangion> eetfunk: I'm sure it is compatible with django, the question is, is it compatible with mod_python?
[06:08] <vanberge> brian98: my wlan card is workin perfectly...  :-)
[06:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> what's the difference between mod_python and just python?
[06:08] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, never seen this error message
[06:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> !python
[06:08] <brian98> vanberge, I'm very happy for you~! :)
[06:08] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[06:09] <oxygene_> what do you want to "make"?
[06:09] <indref> Yay! Newbie question time!
[06:09] <brian98> great to here
[06:09] <brian98> hear even
[06:09] <indref> How do I change the permissions of an entire dir?
[06:09] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: The difference is cgi vs preloading the vm and running it from the webserver directly.
[06:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> Oh?
[06:09] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, your kernel is 2.6.15 and the software (whatever it is) seems to require at least 2.6.16
[06:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well I guess I'd have to learn python first huh.
[06:09] <ronybeck> chmod -R 0777 /path/to/dir
[06:09] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: Thus avoiding the overheads of the exec() system call.
[06:09] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, I am trying to install cdemu
[06:10] <indref> I moved about a million files from a few dvds to my home dir, but they are all read only.
[06:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> Everytime I do anything in python it gives me an error message.
[06:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> Even when I do instructions to the tee.
[06:10] <brian98> indref, http://www.linux-mag.com/tips/
[06:10] <indref> It's a begger changing the permissions per file.
[06:10] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, you won't be able to install it with the current dapper kernel
[06:10] <brian98> indref, that shows you how to use chown
[06:10] <ronybeck> indref, what?
[06:10] <MrWok1> Well?
[06:11] <MrWok1> how can I actually search for a term?
[06:11] <indref> brian98, Thanks, I'll give it a look.
[06:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm just learning bash myself, so I'd better just stick to one.
[06:11] <vanberge> users
[06:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> !bash
[06:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:11] <mneptok> bbl
[06:11] <shriphani_> MrWok, in what ?
[06:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I access this konsole?
[06:11] <Arafangion> eetfunk: The django db api is remarkably similar to python's PyObject (If that's what it's called)
[06:11] <rustlerhar1> !mythtv
[06:11] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[06:12] <brian98> MrWok, do you need to find a file?
[06:12] <MrWok1> brian98: Yeah
[06:12] <brian98> either locate filename
[06:12] <brian98> or find / -name filename
[06:12] <eetfunk> Arafangion: i don't know too much about python, i learned it recently when porting my app to django.
[06:12] <brian98> use sudo to search in dirs that do not belong to you
[06:13] <brian98> ie
[06:13] <oxygene_> MrWok, take "locate filename" literally. "locate" is the actual command
[06:13] <brian98> or sudo find / -name filename
[06:13] <MrWok1> thanks
[06:13] <MrWok1> I assume I can search for folders too with that
[06:13] <brian98> oxygene_,  sorry for my bad explanation
[06:13] <indref> Ok, well that didn't help :/
[06:13] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Python is my favorite langauge :)
[06:13] <brian98> MrWok, yes
[06:13] <indref> My previous question stands.
[06:13] <oxygene_> "locate" is faster because it uses a database but recently added files will not be listed yet
[06:13] <eetfunk> Arafangion: not me, thats for sure.
[06:14] <indref> How do I change the permissions of an entire dir?
[06:14] <Arafangion> eetfunk: What's yours?
[06:14] <oxygene_> brian98, I bad-explained it the same way before ;)
[06:14] <brian98> MrWok, you can run sudo updatedb
[06:14] <brian98> then use locate
[06:14] <oxygene_> indref, recursivly?
[06:14] <MrWok1> Ah
[06:14] <MrWok1> Thanks guys :-)
[06:14] <eetfunk> i did a lot of .net/c# and I think it's a wonderful platform.  but for scripting, i find ruby to be much more elegant
[06:14] <Arafangion> eetfunk: I'm not sure if python's a good choice for a web scripting langauge for Apache, and it's positively awful for templating, imho - but in the context of programming, it's a rather nice language.
[06:14] <brian98> indref, can you remind me~?
[06:14] <indref> oxygene_, I want everything in /home/indref/ to be read/write for me
[06:15] <oxygene_> chmod and chown have both the option -R
[06:15] <Phr0stByte> Anyone have any problems with edgy adter upgrading from breezy?
[06:15] <Arafangion> eetfunk: For .NET, I'm wanting to try Boo
[06:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want to learn a language just so I can make something.
[06:15] <Arafangion> eetfunk: It's a .NET language heavily inspired by Python.
[06:15] <eetfunk> boo?
[06:15] <Phr0stByte> (just checking befor I try)
[06:15] <indref> brian98,  I want everything in /home/indref/ to be read/write for me
[06:15] <oxygene_> so you can specify a folder and change permissions recursively
[06:15] <unfknblvbl> Sktfeelsdapper: learn maths
[06:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> Like so I can make it 300 times easier to download stupid Nicotine.
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> Sktfeelsdapper, ruby ... then ruby on rails
[06:15] <unfknblvbl> its a universal language
[06:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> maths?
[06:15] <eetfunk> never heard of it.  ironpython sure looks pretty nice
[06:16] <MrWok1> how can i save a word document into a folder that doesn't belong to me? Would I run AbiWord under sudo?
[06:16] <unfknblvbl> ^^
[06:16] <oxygene_> Phr0stByte, join #ubuntu+1 for edgy problems
[06:16] <brian98> indref, chmod -R
[06:16] <Arafangion> eetfunk: It does, except Ironpython is comparable in speed to CPython, while Boo is many, many, many times faster.
[06:16] <indref> brian98, chmod -R /home/indref
[06:16] <brian98> indref, chmod -R +wrx u yourusername
[06:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> Seriously, the time I've spent trying to download stupid nicotine+ and install it.
[06:16] <eetfunk> Arafangion: i'm sure it will only get better
[06:16] <oxygene_> MrWok, NEVER start applications with sudo
[06:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> I could have had like 10 albums.
[06:16] <indref> What is +wrx?
[06:16] <oxygene_> rather save it in a folder writeable by you
[06:16] <ubuntu> indref  chmod -R 755 yourid:yourgroupid /home/indref
[06:16] <Phr0stByte> oxygene_:Did I say I had a problem with Edgy? I'm not even running it
[06:16] <Arafangion> eetfunk: I think part of the issue is the CLR itself.
[06:16] <oxygene_> then copy or move it with sudo
[06:17] <brian98> indref,  write read execute
[06:17] <MrWok1> Ah ok
[06:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> so how do i make things with python?
[06:17] <indref> Pretend for a moment that I have never used the console before. :|
[06:17] <Arafangion> eetfunk: Boo is strongly, statically typed, but it infers the types for you, which is usually just as good. :) (Though, it does allow you to use ducktyping)
[06:17] <eetfunk> Arafangion: i doubt it, the clr is very fast, much faster than any scripted language
[06:17] <brian98> ok
[06:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I make a window in python. That has stuff inside of it.
[06:17] <brian98> what is the name of the dir
[06:17] <indref> /home/indref
[06:17] <shawnr_> Sktfeelsdapper, #python
[06:17] <oxygene_> indref, http://www.freeos.com/articles/3127/
[06:17] <Arafangion> eetfunk: The issue with python is it's VERY reflective, and it has first-class functions, etc.
[06:17] <brian98> can we pretend your username is indref
[06:17] <Somniis> Sktfeelsdapper: learn python and you will know :P
[06:18] <indref> Well, it is
[06:18] <brian98> ok
[06:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Where's that room at here?
[06:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> join /#python
[06:18] <MrWok1> What's a good code editor?
[06:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Huh I didn't know there was really a room.
[06:18] <Arafangion> eetfunk: The clr is very fast, but it has very different design constraints to CPython.
[06:18] <Tokenbad> has anyone got cdemu to work on ubuntu?
[06:18] <ixian> ati
[06:18] <Arafangion> MrWok1: vim
[06:18] <wickedpuppy> MrWok1, vim or emacs
[06:18] <MrWok1> cheers
[06:19] <Somniis> MrWok1: gedit, vim, or emacs
[06:19] <wickedpuppy> or echo ...
[06:19] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: /join #python
[06:19] <Geoffrey2> anyone here using the Intel Graphics chipset?
[06:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just did.
[06:19] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, you need a newer kernel than in the dapper repositories
[06:19] <oxygene_> cdemu requires linux kernel version 2.6.16
[06:20] <brian98> chmod -R ugo+wrx /home/indref
[06:20] <brian98> try
[06:20] <indref> sudo?
[06:20] <SeraVitae> hi there, gotta generate a new xorg conf file, what's the pkg name for dpkg-reconfigure?
[06:20] <ronybeck> do I use hcitool to pair with a blue tooth device?
[06:20] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, the older versions don't...but got different error when tried to make with older version
[06:20] <oxygene_> xserver-org
[06:20] <Somniis> SeraVitae: xserver-xorg
[06:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> how long did it take you to learn python?
[06:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> I mean really really learn it and know it.
[06:20] <Tokenbad> the 0.7 works with 2.6 kernels
[06:20] <indref> Hmm.
[06:21] <brian98> SeraVitae, xorg-server
[06:21] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, well, what's the error message?
[06:21] <SeraVitae> ahh, ta
[06:21] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'.  Stop
[06:21] <swj> ronybeck: thats what I use - took a couple of times though-I use a motorolla e815
[06:21] <brian98> indref suo
[06:21] <brian98> sudo
[06:21] <indref> Perfect.
[06:21] <SeraVitae> wierd it says xorg-server is not installed
[06:21] <indref> brian98, Thank you very much :D
[06:21] <brian98> ronybeck, http://www.linux.ie/articles/bluetoothheadset.php
[06:21] <brian98> indref: glad it worked :)
[06:22] <indref> brian98, Me too, changing that stuff is dangerous.
[06:22] <kdean06> Does anyone have any tutorials or suggestions on burning video that will play in standalone DVD players? I'm not concerned about menus and whatnot, and I'd prefer a GUI so as not to have to constantly refer to a howto, but I will. :)
[06:22] <ronybeck> swj, ok,  so I should be able to do hcitool cc <mac> then hcitool auth <mac> then supply my pin number right?
[06:22] <brian98> kdean06
[06:22] <brian98> kdean06, do a search for tovid on google
[06:22] <swj> ronybeck: what kind of device is it?
[06:22] <ronybeck> swj: gps?
[06:22] <SeraVitae> how would i go about finding out what it is, if it's not xorg-server ? i should state i am using badger, not dapper.
[06:23] <ronybeck> swj, sorry, slip on the keyboard.  It is a GPS
[06:23] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:23] <oxygene_> maybe that's missing
[06:23] <oxygene_> the ` is the backtick
[06:23] <oxygene_> alternatively you could just insert your current kernel name
[06:23] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, trying
[06:24] <grte> Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble with my resolution. I can't go higher than 1024x768, and going through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg process has not fixed it.
[06:24] <grte> anyone know what the problem might be?
[06:24] <brian98> grte: what card?
[06:24] <grte> Just a moment...
[06:24] <Somniis> grte: can your vid card handle higher than that?
[06:24] <brian98> and what monitor :) ?
[06:25] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, that seems to fix that problem...trying now
[06:25] <Somniis> yeah, and monitor :)
[06:25] <grte> GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200
[06:25] <grte> Somniis: Yes, it can.
[06:25] <brian98> and what monitor :) ?
[06:25] <grte> Monitor can as well - it has before.
[06:25] <Somniis> hmm.
[06:25] <brian98> what screen is it
[06:25] <grte> What do you mean?
[06:25] <Somniis> grte: have you downloaded the nvidia drivers?
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to watch videos in totem-xine, but notice that the video looks overly bright, almost completely white in some scenes...I have a Dell Inspiron 6000, and installed 915resolution, but that hasn't helped...any suggestions?
[06:26] <grte> Somniis: Yes, and modified xorg.conf to include nvidia rather than nv.
[06:26] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, seemed to be installed but now when try to run it get another error...heheh
[06:26] <Somniis> that's odd..
[06:26] <grte> I get the nvidia splash and can play tremulous, so I assume it's working.
[06:26] <oxygene_> what does it say?
[06:26] <Somniis> yes, lol, i'd hope so :-)
[06:26] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, raise CDEmu_Error, "could't find block device, if you've no devfs make sure you created them"
[06:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is there a plugin for xmms that plays m4a audio files, or something that converts them?
[06:27] <swj> ronybeck: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FVbgTF23.html  Thats how I do it-but to answer your original question again, I have to use  hcitool scan
[06:27] <MaD_MaX> Hi all. Is there any body who can answer my q?
[06:27] <Somniis> MaD_MaX: just ask
[06:27] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, how do you start cdemu?
[06:27] <grte> Well, that depends on your question.
[06:27] <brian98> Sktfeelsdapper, http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t37261.html
[06:28] <brian98> Sktfeelsdapper, even better : http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/42508-m4a-xmms.html
[06:28] <swj> ronybeck: before I get a 'sync' I dont have to worry about address and so on...its thats simple
[06:28] <ronybeck> swj, thanks heaps!!
[06:28] <ronybeck> swj, I will go do some reading
[06:28] <grte> Has anyone here managed to compile ncmpc-svn?
[06:28] <SeraVitae> Okay, so dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server tells me that xorg-server isn't installed. what can i do to find out what it's called?
[06:28] <swj> ronybeck: welcome
[06:28] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, did the module load into the kernel successfully?
[06:29] <grte> SeraVitae: The command is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:29] <Somniis> SeraVitae: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:29] <MaD_MaX> I wont to install ubuntu (server) on old PC, but i can not burn ISO image on to CD. I already have bootable CD, and i can boot from HD (on this machine) from Ubuntu desctop. Is there any way to install from ISO image?
[06:29] <SeraVitae> ah, cool, thanks Somniis. :)
[06:29] <Somniis> lol, grte got it in before me :P
[06:29] <craigbass1976> Hey folks.  I just installed Ubuntu.  Coming from Fedoraland (been using linux regularly since FC1) is there anything radically different?  I'm also familiar with Knoppix, so I'm guessing I'll do all right.
[06:29] <brian98> MaD_MaX, are you running windows?
[06:29] <grte> craigbass1976: The biggest difference is package management.
[06:30] <brian98> craigbass1976, like a duck to water !
[06:30] <MaD_MaX> In this moment, yes. But im using different PC.
[06:30] <grte> apt and deb instead of rpm and yast.
[06:30] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well I mean should I just convert the m4a into mp3?
[06:30] <brian98> and a lot less bloat
[06:30] <brian98> :)
[06:30] <craigbass1976> So, once I get apt figured out (and I did a debian install last week so I'm catching on...) I should be good to go?
[06:30] <oxygene_> other than that, if you're used to knoppix which is also debian based, you will habe fun wich ubuntu
[06:30] <kdean06> brian98, Thanks, i think that's what I'm looking for.
[06:30] <grte> Yeah, pretty much.
[06:31] <brian98> kdean06, it does all the command line work for you
[06:31] <brian98> ju
[06:31] <arnducky> I'm a little lost in the directory structure of an official mirror.  I want to download Dapper and latest Edgy DVD ISO images.  What are the files called and in what directory(ies) should I find them?
[06:31] <brian98> kdean06, just be careful of the dependecies!
[06:31] <MrWok1> How can I rename a folder that I don't own? "sudo"...?
[06:31] <craigbass1976> Well, when I use Knoppix, it's always because something bad happened to someone's box, so I pretty much just use it to move files somewhere before a windows reinstall.
[06:31] <grte> MrWok1: Yup.
[06:31] <SeraVitae> sudo mv <olddirname> <newdirname> ?
[06:31] <firefly2442> What should I do if dpkg --purge doesn't remove a package?
[06:31] <MaD_MaX> Brian: I can boot from Ubuntu Desctop CD, Ubuntu Desctop HD, UD Floppy, Others Distos.
[06:32] <kdean06> brian98, Yeah. :) I don't mind the CLI, but it's a process that requires several steps for the most part, and I'm not familiar with it, my wife just got a digital video camera for her birthday, so we're playing around with it.
[06:32] <craigbass1976> The sudo thing is weird.  In reading around it doesn't sound like one way is really any better than the other.  I'm used to su - though, so first off I'll be giving root a password.
[06:32] <Tokenbad> damn guess can't load this bin file cause it errors when load the bin...something about spaces
[06:32] <torchie> hmm
[06:32] <brian98> Ok , it works for me, not for everyone, as I said just watch the dependencies!
[06:32] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, the exact error msg please
[06:33] <craigbass1976> Thanks guys.  I'm off to play....
[06:33] <torchie> when the ubuntu cd says it's uncompressing the kernel or something, it also says something along the lines of "failed to allocate mem resource
[06:33] <torchie> "
[06:33] <brian98> it also allows you to convert xvid to dvd etc....
[06:33] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, will post to pastebin
[06:34] <MaD_MaX> Q: Need to install Ubu Server from ISO Image. Can boot from Ubu Desctop HD, CD, Floppy and others distros'. How i can do that?
[06:34] <brian98> MaD_MaX, sorry man, I've lost track, what were you doing?
[06:34] <arnducky> MrWok, you may want to do suco cp <oldirname> <newdirname>  then rm -rf <olddirname>
[06:34] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25372/
[06:34] <brian98> MaD_MaX, you can boot from CD?
[06:34] <MrWok1> How would I do that seravitae? If I have a folder called bob and want to rename it dave. Both in ~/Desktop/Jim
[06:34] <arnducky> MrWok, errr.... suco = sudo
[06:35] <MrWok1> Ah arnducky, ok
[06:35] <wickedpuppy> arnducky, you mean cp -a ?
[06:35] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, seems like a cdemu problem or a problem with the .bin. however this doesn't need to be a problem though
[06:35] <brian98> MrWok, mv bob dave
[06:35] <arnducky> TY wickedpuppy re: MrWok
[06:35] <MaD_MaX> Brian98, I can boot from Desctop CD. But not from Server CD as is ISO Image that i cannot burn.
[06:35] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, but [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/dev/cdemu3' is
[06:35] <oxygene_> try startig cdemu with sudo
[06:35] <arnducky> (c)o(p)y (a)LL
[06:35] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, I did
[06:36] <arnducky> MrWok, I just suggested it since the mv command can be nasty if you make a typo -- heh
[06:36] <brian98> MaD_MaX, why can't you burn it? /me is getting ready to watch chinese GP :)
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> MaD_MaX, how can you not burn an ISO image ?
[06:36] <oxygene_> you did successfully load the kernel module, Tokenbad ?
[06:37] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, yes...
[06:37] <brian98> it's only 5:36 am here
[06:37] <Tokenbad> but let me check something
[06:37] <Somniis> only? :)
[06:37] <MaD_MaX> wickedpuppy - I have no CD Burner. :D
[06:37] <brian98> wickedpuppy, good enuff reason
[06:37] <brian98> lol
[06:37] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, ls -alF /dev/cdemu*
[06:37] <arnducky> MrWok, if you're paranoid you can do a zdiff before rm
[06:37] <brian98> MaD_MaX, You have a romdrive though
[06:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> but i want to convert them into mp3's not wav!
[06:38] <Somniis> MaD_MaX: try ordering a server cd then
[06:38] <brian98> MaD_MaX, You have a romdrive though
[06:38] <brian98> cd rom
[06:38] <brian98> and you have a ubuntu cd
[06:38] <brian98> and you have the iso of the server?
[06:38] <Somniis> brian98: he wants to burn the iso of the server onto a cd, but he has no cd burner to do it with
[06:39] <MaD_MaX> Somniis. U R wonderfull person. Go to "Ship Ubuntu" and see that there is no Ship Server CD in there. But any way, i don't wont to bother only for ask 1 cd! And it will take long time.
[06:39] <Somniis> i think
[06:39] <brian98> MaD_MaX, do you have a cdrom drive
[06:39] <Somniis> :-( sorry MaD.  i just took a stab at it :)
[06:39] <brian98> MaD_MaX, not a burner
 I have no idea what is RomDrive. Must be some kind of RAM/HD emulator!?!
[06:39] <brian98> MaD_MaX, sorry left out cd
[06:39] <steveneddy> ok - got a question....
[06:39] <brian98> cd romdrive
 and you have the iso of the server? <- That is correct.
[06:39] <jarrod06> .seen sabdfl
[06:40] <brian98> ok
[06:40] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, I will have to pastebin the results
[06:40] <oxygene_> sure, go on
[06:40] <brian98> Mad_Max my suggestion is this bear with me because this is going to be a long message
[06:40] <MaD_MaX> do you have a cdrom drive <- I do. That is why i can boot from Desctop CD.
[06:40] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25373/
[06:41] <Somniis> i don't know for sure.. but does the server ubuntu have a "live cd" thing like the desktop version?
[06:41] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, hmm. so the devices are there
[06:41] <Tokenbad> now how to read them
[06:41] <Tokenbad> heheh
[06:41] <brian98> MaD_MaX, boot to the desktop cd, choose option 1 then when all is good and you have ubuntu desktop insert the server cd
 No.
[06:41] <bretzel> !compiz
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:41] <Somniis> bummer.  you could mount it with daemon tools or something else, and run it like that if so.
[06:42] <oxygene_> I've no idea why it says "[Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/dev/cdemu3'"
[06:42] <blujay> Is there a separate channel for Edgy?
[06:42] <oxygene_> but then again: I haven't ever used cdemu
[06:42] <Overand> blujay: #ubuntu+1
[06:42] <|thunder> ya, #ubuntu+1
[06:42] <oxygene_> so I can't help you from here
[06:42] <blujay> thanks Overand and |thunder,
 Hahaha. Ok. Will try. Can i emulate ISO image and change INSTALL Program path?
[06:42] <bretzel> ""The compiz repositories are currently broken - DO NOT INSTALL"" ???
[06:43] <brian98> MaD_MaX, sorry right click on the iso and extract here
[06:43] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, should I be able to mount them like cd-rom drives?
[06:43] <oxygene_> i suppose
[06:43] <brian98> then
[06:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> how do you command line and get rid of a program you installed?
[06:43] <brian98> MaD_MaX, then
[06:43] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, you should be able to mount the devices
[06:44] <SeraVitae> Sktfeelsdapper - open a term and go sudo synaptic
[06:44] <SeraVitae> that's about the easiest way
[06:44] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, just how...
[06:44] <oxygene_> what do you type? cdemu 0 image.cue ?
[06:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> isn't there like an uninstall?
[06:44] <Tokenbad> I got around the device stuff
[06:44] <SeraVitae> skt - yeah, man apt-get
[06:44] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, yes
[06:44] <SeraVitae> but like i said, synaptic or a package manager is an easier way if you dont know how to do it already
[06:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just installed audacity, and I want to remove it, I installed it from the command line.
[06:44] <Tokenbad> but had to go to 5 to get it to work
[06:45] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, i think ya can booot from iso
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> Sktfeelsdapper, you can do sudo apt-get remove ... got it ? change install to remove
[06:45] <xenoNfluX> Sktfeelsdapper, sudo apt-get remove audacity
[06:45] <kdean06> Sktfeelsdapper, dpkg remove (--purge) or apt-get remove (--purge) works. Add the --purge to either if you want to remove that apps config files. You can also do the same in Synaptic
[06:45] <maquis> where did the option for a server install disappear to?
[06:46] <brian98> MaD_MaX, http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/09/customizing_ubuntu_live_cd_606_1.html will give you an idea of how to mount the iso
 That's what i wont to do. But how you can tell PC to boot from iso as it needs program to do that. Some kind of inteligen BIOS!
[06:46] <maquis> i don't like >90% of the stuff ubuntu installs by default, but i really want to give ubuntu a fair try at least
[06:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> i still need an all purpose mp3, m4a converter.
[06:46] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, i have no idea. try consulting cdemu resources or maybe even the author
[06:46] <oxygene_> or try another .bin/.cue
[06:46] <brian98> MaD_MaX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning
[06:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> i want to convert m4a's into mp3's if it all possible.
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> maquis, which stuff you don't like ? gnome ?
[06:46] <brian98> if you do that after you boot from the live cd you should be able to install from the server after you  mount it
[06:46] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, sudo cdemu 5 mini.cue
[06:47] <Tokenbad> mounted fine
[06:47] <Tokenbad> was a test img
[06:47] <maquis> wickedpuppy: gnome, openoffice, pretty much all the X-based software
[06:47] <Tokenbad> but how to make it readable
[06:47] <oxygene_> so the other .img won't?
[06:47] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, http://wiki.lunar-linux.org/index.php/Installation:No_CD
[06:47] <jarrod06> Sktfeelsdapper: you dont want to do that, you will lose audio quality and the resulting files will sound poorly
[06:47] <shriphani> that might give you an idea
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> maquis, i don't know how to tell ya but ... you can install ubuntu as server ?
[06:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> So what should I convert them to? I can't play them on xmms.
[06:47] <maquis> wickedpuppy: is there still an option for a server install that only does the basics?
[06:47] <Tokenbad> gave the same error as before...but without the permission denied stuff
[06:47] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i know the previous versions gave 2 options for installs...
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> !server
[06:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[06:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't want to stop using xmms, since I like it more than half these other things.
[06:47] <Tokenbad> about the space stuff
[06:47] <brian98> MaD_MaX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning will work!
[06:48] <maquis> if ubuntu doesn't have that i may end up going to something else instead
[06:48] <gpro> !java
[06:48] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:48] <gpro> !apache
[06:48] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> maquis, why not ? i been moving around fedora ... suse .. debian and ubuntu all the time
[06:49] <ClayG> i need an xp pro key
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> ClayG, very funny ...
[06:49] <infbliss> ClayG:try FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8
[06:49] <shriphani> lol
 <shriphani> Thank you so much. Will try.
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> infbliss, i don't think we encourage piracy ?
[06:50] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i want something i can get up quickly
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> piracy hurts linux downloads :P
[06:50] <ClayG> thanks ill try, im fixing this womans computer fro work
[06:50] <unfknblvbl> uh
[06:50] <maquis> wickedpuppy: and i really wanted to actually give ubuntu a chance
[06:50] <ClayG> and now it's a fcking nightmare
[06:50] <oxygene_> well, FCKGW won't work for SPx-installs =)
[06:50] <unfknblvbl> don't give serials on this channel plz
[06:50] <ClayG> i have to reinstall windows and like a moron i didnt right the key on the outside of my "legal backup"
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> maquis, try fedora ... minimum install and i showd ya the server install links .. if you still want the server
[06:51] <unfknblvbl> i don't want this server to die from that
[06:51] <infbliss> oxygene_ is right
[06:51] <ClayG> dunno which this is, xp pro without sp2 i think
[06:51] <ClayG> hope
[06:51] <ClayG> lets see
[06:51] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, on the other bin...it just said the stuff about the spaces
[06:51] <oxygene_> ClayG, you're wrong here, if you need a xp key
[06:51] <oxygene_> consult your local software dealer
[06:51] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, you could use this as well
[06:51] <InfoSpy> does jdeveloper work on ubuntu?
[06:52] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i've tried fedora before...
[06:52] <shriphani> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[06:52] <brian98> maquis, fedorra is a wickedpuppy
[06:52] <brian98> :)
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> maquis, may i ask what you are looking for ??
[06:52] <ClayG> infbliss, thanks but dind't work
[06:52] <oxygene_> Tokenbad, so maybe some incompatibilities. but definitely beyond my scope
[06:52] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, that link i posted is ubuntu specific
 <-- Thanks.
[06:52] <brian98> maquis, well, it's very different
[06:52] <oxygene_> you should consult the cdemu community or even file a bug
[06:52] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i'm looking for something that will get me up quickly, but won't install the stuff i don't want
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> maquis, gentoo
[06:53] <infbliss> ClayG: i think you are installing SP1 or above
[06:53] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i said i wanted to be up quickly
[06:53] <fluvvell> ClayG, it won't work unless yo have a unique one for that machine
[06:53] <maquis> and my machine runs *way* too hot for gentoo... i ran that on another machine for over a year
[06:53] <Tokenbad> oxygene_, yeah think its that bin..emailed the auther about it
[06:53] <shriphani> wickedpuppy, you use gentoo ?
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> btw fedora or ubuntu can be installed in 10 min
[06:53] <maquis> honestly, a large part of it is, i want to give ubuntu a real try
[06:53] <fluvvell> ClayG specially if you've got it connected to the net
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, used to
[06:53] <maquis> i tried it once but reformatted within a week
[06:53] <shriphani> i used it for like 5 hours :D
[06:53] <ClayG> fluvvell, they still work i haven't had a copy not work
[06:54] <ClayG> worse is not being to update after sp2
[06:54] <SeraVitae> anyone wanna suggest a light torrent client? gotta run it on a 433mhz celeron + 192mb ram nix box.
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> maquis, i think if you spend the time talking to us here on installing any of the distros you will find what you want
[06:54] <shriphani> its a pain in the ar$e
 <-- In last link you posted you need windows. I have only Ubuntu. :D Will read it any way.
[06:54] <Sktfeelsdapper> Nevermind I found a plugin for xmms :D
[06:54] <ClayG> i hit the newsgroups but looks like ms somehow got alot of postings removed
[06:54] <brian98> MaD_MaX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning will work!
[06:54] <fluvvell> ClayG, they work for one then whoever it was copied from has probs once they download the w genuine update
[06:54] <ClayG> used to be filled with them
[06:54] <maquis> wickedpuppy: i've tried a lot of distros
[06:54] <brian98> MaD_MaX, used it b4
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> maquis, you don't like them all ? then there is always windows
[06:55] <maquis> i've done a couple versions of fedora, gentoo, freebsd, rhel, centos, etc
[06:55] <brian98> msg me if you have any probs
[06:55] <maquis> i just want to do a server install of ubuntu
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> !server
[06:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> i thought i did that already ?
[06:55] <MaD_MaX> Ok. Thanks. Now must go and give it a try.
[06:55] <fluvvell> ClayG, they want their computer fixed yet they don't already have a valid licence sticker on the box?
[06:55] <MaD_MaX> Cyas.
[06:55] <vick> Anybody know of any GUI process manager ? [list, send signal, etc..] 
[06:55] <InfoSpy> why does my ubuntu box, sometimes i get sound sometimes i dont. Honestly i feel happy with it, it's really stable something this gateway has not being, but i was wondering if that could get fixed.
[06:56] <shriphani> MaD_MaX, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=83151#post83151
[06:56] <brian98> gnome-sessionmanager or somat
[06:56] <oxygene_> okay, bye. i'm out
[06:56] <kamui> what program should I use to burn an ISO?
[06:56] <shriphani> kamui, os ?
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> kamui, gnomebaker or k3b
[06:56] <keegan> !Restricted
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <kdean06> brian98, I'm getting errors during encode when the makexml is passed, have you seen this before and know of a work around?
[06:56] <MaD_MaX> Yahho.. That is the best :D
[06:56] <ricky> hi
[06:56] <dekup> hi. how can i learn my kernels mtrr configuration? compiled with mtrr or not?
[06:57] <kamui> shriphani: Im in ubuntu of course :)
[06:57] <maquis> ah... apparently i can download a whole other iso to get the server version
[06:57] <maquis> that's stupid
[06:57] <brian98> kdean06 is this with tovid?
[06:57] <shriphani> kamui, ubuntu comes with an app
[06:57] <kdean06> Yep.
[06:57] <ricky> how can i put my menu transparent
[06:57] <keegan> !Restricted
[06:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:57] <shriphani> rt. click on the iso and 'Write To CD'
[06:57] <brian98> kdean06 did you add menus
[06:57] <kamui> shriphani: thanks, whats the app are you referring to
[06:57] <ClayG> fluvvell, this woman is a moron, im a bigger oe though because i forgot that once you touch a computer you "own" it
[06:57] <ClayG> forever
[06:58] <ClayG> anything that happens afterwards is your fault
[06:58] <ricky> hey anybody there
[06:58] <shriphani> kamui, rt. click on the iso and 'Write To CD'
[06:58] <kdean06> brian98, Yes, the instructions say you must add a menu before adding video files, so I've added one.
[06:58] <brian98> ricky, we're all alive!
[06:58] <ClayG> and they "wish they never did it" and tell you every day how "it was so much better before"
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> ClayG, rinkworks.com/stupid ... thats the page for ya
[06:58] <ClayG> lol
[06:58] <MrWok> Thanks for all your help guys
[06:58] <ClayG> this lady at work is killing me
[06:58] <MrWok> I've finally got it all worked out and will install a ubuntu install without X.
[06:58] <ricky> anybody know how can i put my menu transparent?
[06:59] <dekup> how can i learn my kernels mtrr configuration? compiled with mtrr or not? anyone knows?
[06:59] <kamui> shriphani: I thought the intergrated burn capability of gnome wouldn't burn operating system isos properly, as in they wont boot
[06:59] <SeraVitae> hmmmm
[06:59] <ClayG> i fixed a virus she had and then 2 days later she is asked me "a message popped up that i may be infected and to click here to fix it, i did and it said i had to pay! what did you do!?!?!!"
[06:59] <SeraVitae> how can i upgrade badger to dapper?
[06:59] <matt__> why can't i can't get sound on my flash videos?
[06:59] <ClayG> i felt like saying "it's a pop up moron, they happen all the time, normally people are smart enough to see it's an ad"
[07:00] <ClayG> instead i try to explain what pop ups , and i am confusing her
[07:00] <brian98> kdean06, go back to the tovid install page it explains that error
[07:00] <Madpilot> ClayG, #ubuntu-offtopic for storytelling, please
[07:00] <infbliss> ricky: right-click panel properties
[07:00] <ClayG> now im fixing a fucking printer problem , she cant get her new one working
[07:00] <hanasaki> what tool does the work of useradd/adduser for an LDAP PAM ssytem instead of /etc/passwd?
[07:00] <ClayG> sorry boss
[07:01] <ricky> and now infbliss
[07:01] <infbliss> ricky:go to background tab
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> hanasaki, ldapadd ... unless i am wrong
[07:01] <MrWok> ClayG, I get that. I fix someones PC and then 6 months later it fucks up. My fault, of course.
[07:02] <ricky> hey infbliss i have gnome
[07:02] <ClayG> yeah, and it's always the ones you do for free that end up being the worse
[07:02] <infbliss> infbliss:i am talkin abt gnome only
[07:02] <matt__> i was able to get audio before, but then i started listening to MP3s, so now I turn off XMMS and now i lost my Flash audio how do i fix it?
[07:02] <odyssevs> Which kernel is ubuntu shipping with presently?
[07:02] <hanasaki> wickedpuppy, ya.. but that does ldap generically.. not for posix accounts
[07:02] <Overand> odyssevs: the linux kernel
[07:02] <Overand> (heh)
[07:02] <Overand> sorry- had to
[07:02] <ricky> ok
[07:03] <infbliss> ricky:use the transparency slider in the panel properties
[07:03] <downer> i'm having a small, connecting to the access point problem.
[07:03] <Omar> Hello guys, please help me, I was trying to install xgl and now I can-t start my ubuntu, the error is server x failed (graphic interfaz) what can I do I need to get in , I am in a Live CD now
[07:03] <odyssevs> Overand, come on, give me some numbers.
[07:03] <Madpilot> odyssevs, I'm not sure what's on the actual install CD, but my up-to-date Dapper system has 2.6.15-27-386
[07:03] <downer> and i cant figure out what is going on
[07:03] <odyssevs> Eek.
[07:03] <infbliss> ricky:u got it
[07:03] <kamui> gnomebaker seems to be working pretty good
[07:03] <odyssevs> I'm after .17-r2 or .18
[07:03] <Madpilot> odyssevs, update to Edgy
[07:03] <ricky> no
[07:03] <odyssevs> (Without the trauma of doing it myself.)
[07:04] <ricky> can you explain again please?
[07:04] <Overand> odyssevs: i'm sure someoine's got it packaged up, somewhere
[07:04] <hanasaki> kamui, it crashes on me big time.. i had to goto k3b :( hana no like kde
[07:04] <infbliss> ricky:right click on menu and select properties
[07:05] <shriphani> kamui you could try graveman
[07:05] <brian98> everyone hope I was of some assistance off to watch the chinese gp ;)
[07:05] <brian98> later people
[07:05] <downer> f
[07:05] <downer> is there any known problems with connecting to wireless ap
[07:05] <ricky> oh thanx i got it
[07:05] <downer> 's with orinoco gold cards?
[07:06] <Omar> Hello guys, please help me, I was trying to install xgl and now I can-t start my ubuntu, the error is server x failed (graphic interfaz) what can I do I need to get in , I am in a Live CD now
[07:06] <brian98> downer, just driver issue usually
[07:06] <infbliss> ricky:but does not the window list look ugly when you use transparency
[07:06] <odyssevs> Overand, is there a decent wifi card which is certain to work under Ubuntu?
[07:07] <odyssevs> I'm developing a serious stretch of uncombable hair with my present card.
[07:07] <downer> brian98: i cant get my shit to connect to the AP
[07:07] <downer> and i cant figure it out
[07:07] <ricky> ok
[07:07] <brian98> downer, shell - iwconfig
[07:07] <brian98> what do you get
[07:07] <brian98> do you get no wireless extenstions
[07:07] <brian98> extensions
[07:07] <downer> it shows me the essid correctly
[07:07] <ricky> yeah
[07:07] <brian98> ok
[07:07] <ricky> i c
[07:07] <downer> but when i go into the wireless monitor icon
[07:08] <downer> it says 'disconnected'
[07:08] <brian98> yeah
[07:08] <brian98> you gotta change
[07:08] <brian98> the name
[07:08] <brian98> to wlan0
[07:08] <brian98> or eth1
[07:08] <downer> i did t hat
[07:08] <odyssevs> brian98, what's a sit0 ?
[07:08] <Parabola> aww yea
[07:08] <Parabola> level 11 on kbounce
[07:08] <brian98> odyssevs, I dunno....
[07:08] <ricky> infbliss do you have fluxbox too?
[07:08] <brian98> Did I say something?
[07:08] <downer> brian98: it shows 98% signal strength, but no packets transmitting and status is disconnected.
[07:09] <brian98> configure
[07:09] <infbliss> ricky:no
[07:09] <brian98> is it enabled and it the ssid in the ssid name
[07:09] <ricky> you only have gnome?
[07:09] <brian98> is dhcp selected
[07:09] <infbliss> ricky:gnome and xfce
[07:09] <ricky> ok
[07:09] <downer> brian98: yes.
[07:09] <brian98> ifconfig
[07:09] <downer> and no security whatsoever.
[07:09] <brian98> what do you get
[07:10] <grte> Can anyone tell me what this compiling error might mean? http://pastebin.ca/187494
[07:10] <ricky> i have fluxbox too but i dont know how out my menu transparent
[07:10] <arnducky> brian98, odyssevs 'sit0' (in the context of Linux networkng) is a tunnel adapter, as in L2TP
[07:10] <arnducky> (or pptp)
[07:10] <arnducky> ala VPNs
[07:11] <ricky> i will back
[07:11] <downer> brian98: ifconfig lists eth1, and just basically says no packets are transmitting
[07:12] <downer> ifconfig eth1 up doesnt work either
[07:12] <odyssevs> arnducky, good man.
[07:12] <arnducky> REPOST: (doesn't anyone know this?) I'm a little lost in the directory structure of an official mirror.  I want to download Dapper and latest Edgy DVD ISO images.  What are the files called and in what directory(ies) should I find them?
[07:13] <ricky> hey
[07:13] <encompass> hi?
[07:13] <infbliss> ricky:what fluxbox version do you use
[07:13] <kamui> ok, one more question, how do I split a ext3 partition so that I can use some of my unused drive space to install another os?
[07:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gparted
[07:13] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gparted > kamui
[07:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> That didn't work.
[07:14] <ricky> i use fluxbox-0.9.14
[07:14] <encompass> he
[07:14] <surface3> ricky:  fluxbox have later version
[07:14] <encompass> well, is it the first yet?
[07:14] <encompass> I woke up this morning realizing it is the first of october... hmmm 6.10?
[07:14] <infbliss> ricky:can you tell me what fluxbox -i tells
[07:14] <ricky> yeah
[07:15] <acidmax> hi allllllllllll
[07:15] <kamui> one more cd burning question.  could I have actually used DD to write the iso to the dvdrom drive device from the command line?
[07:15] <infbliss> ricky:also try xdpyinfo|grep RENDER
[07:15] <encompass> whereis allllllllll
[07:16] <acidmax> or
[07:16] <acidmax> hi everybody
[07:16] <acidmax> :P
[07:16] <encompass> hehe
[07:16] <acidmax> jejejee
[07:16] <surface2> ricky:  v1.0rc2
[07:16] <ricky> i dont have that version
[07:17] <infbliss> surface2,ricky: 0.9.2 and above support transparency
[07:17] <acidmax> encompass:  i learn english
[07:17] <arnducky> kamui, basically, yes
[07:17] <ricky> it tell me 0.9.12
[07:17] <ricky> that one support transparency?
[07:17] <infbliss> ricky:yes
[07:18] <infbliss> ricky:also try xdpyinfo|grep RENDER
[07:19] <surface2> infbliss:  yeah, it works fine
[07:19] <brian98> downer: does it have an ip
[07:19] <brian98> ?
[07:19] <ricky> only say RENDER
[07:19] <brian98> I gotta run now...
[07:19] <Parabola> omg
[07:19] <brian98> can someone else help downer ?
[07:20] <surface2> ricky:  screenshot http://mysurface.no-ip.org/download/16-sep-2006.png
[07:20] <infbliss> ricky:if fluxbox -i says -RENDER then you may have to recompile
[07:21] <Geoffrey2> ok, I'll try one more time....I have totem-xine installed, and have an Intel 915 onboard graphics chip...I've noticed that videos look terrible, being entirely too bright, in some cases all I see are large blobs of white....any suggestions on how to fix the problem?  Thanks....
[07:21] <ricky> typed xdpyinfo | grep RENDER and only say RENDER
[07:22] <ricky> when i type fluxbox -i it tells info about fluxbox
[07:23] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: go to edit - preferences - display tab. Adjust brightness\contrast to a reasonable level.
[07:24] <ArrenLex> And saturation and hue and whatever else make your video look fine.
[07:24] <bcarlson> What is the differnce between the server and desktop kernels?
[07:25] <odyssevs> Any way of installing Ubuntu off a flash card?
[07:25] <bcarlson> I assume there is a difference between installing the server and then installing the gnome desktop then only installing the live cd?
[07:26] <downer> brian98: i am not getting an ip
[07:26] <ShadeT> Geoffrey2, I have also noticed that occurs when not on xv video display mode.
[07:26] <downer> brian98: and dhclient just does nothing.
[07:30] <SeraVitae> is there a package for azureus for ubuntu?
[07:30] <SeraVitae> im guessing not since its just a .jar file
[07:31] <ricky> hey
[07:31] <Tokenbad> apt-cache search azureus
[07:31] <Tokenbad> its there
[07:31] <ricky> hey every body
[07:31] <downer> brian98: in dmesg its saying eth1: link is not ready
[07:31] <Geoffrey2> ShadeT, how would I go about adjusting that?
[07:33] <Tokenbad> SeraVitae, apt-cache search azureus
[07:34] <ricky> anybody know how can i put the fluxbox menu transparent?
[07:34] <eigenlambda> ya...
[07:34] <eigenlambda> right-click it
[07:34] <eigenlambda> oh, the menu
[07:34] <ricky> ya
[07:34] <eigenlambda> nvm
[07:34] <eigenlambda> lol
[07:34] <eigenlambda> um
[07:34] <ricky> what is um
[07:34] <eigenlambda> somewhere in the theme file.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> !enter
[07:34] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:34] <ricky> ok
[07:35] <ricky> ya
[07:35] <eigenlambda> i used to know... back when i use fluxbox...
[07:35] <eigenlambda> ArrenLex: totally!! good point.  im sorry.
[07:35] <ricky> ok
[07:36] <ricky> contineu
[07:36] <kamui> so its not possible to resize a partition Im currently using is it.  I probably have to boot from a livecd huh?
[07:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> !lame
[07:36] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[07:36] <ricky> eigenlamdba are you there
[07:36] <eigenlambda> session.screen0.menu... um...
[07:36] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ok what i don't understand is, is it possible to get into my mp3 files from bash?
[07:37] <kamui> for some reason, I thought I could make changes to the partition table and they would take effect after reboot
[07:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> so i can use lame to convert them into mp3?
[07:37] <ricky> where is that?
[07:37] <jvai> hey any1 using the Epiphany browser? what's the experience?
[07:37] <kamui> however running parted as root has the resize option dimmed on the drive Im trying to shrink
[07:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> !bash
[07:37] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:37] <kamui> which happens to be the only drive and partiton on the computer other than the swap partition
[07:37] <Madpilot> jvai, it's better than Firefox, I think...
[07:38] <Sktfeelsdapper> Anyone?
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> ShadeT, you said it also occurs when not on xv video display mode...how would I go about fixing this?
[07:38] <jvai> madpilot: is the icon the same as the blue globe for ff?
[07:38] <Madpilot> jvai, almost, it seems to use a paler blue globe
[07:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know how I'm suppose to use lame if I can't even get into my mp3's to change them?!?
[07:39] <jvai> ooo ok
[07:39] <jvai> yea cause this FF globe is a rich blue dark like..
[07:39] <ArrenLex> jvai: epiphany is useable, but not complete enough for me. I prefer firefox.
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> I'd had things set up well, and then two days ago Ubuntu melted down on me and forced me to reformat, so I'm busy picking up the pieces and trying to get everything working again like it was....
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Er... iceweasel, I guess.
[07:40] <eigenlambda> what?? that makes no sense
[07:40] <eigenlambda> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook/en/html/fluxstyle-man.html
[07:40] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, what do you mean "get into" them?
[07:40] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, "Copyfox" ;)
[07:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> from the command line
[07:40] <eigenlambda> well, that's how you configure your fluxbox style.  but theres no transparency on it!!
[07:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> i put in
[07:40] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, yes, from the command line. What do you mean "get into" them?
[07:40] <jvai> arrenlex, what's it lacking?
[07:40] <Sktfeelsdapper> ~/Desktop/hdb1/Musak/  And then the name of the folder with the mp3's in it
[07:41] <ArrenLex> jvai: well, all the extensions I'm used to, for one.
[07:41] <jvai> ooo ok
[07:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> And it says "Cannot not find "the"
[07:41] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, did you delete them?
[07:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> Nope they are still there.
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: is that official?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Or are we kidding?
[07:41] <sasank> can some please tell me what is the directory /etc/init.d/ used for? and the file /etc/init.d/local used for?
[07:41] <shriphani> brb time to install debian on this box (dual booting debian and ubuntu
[07:41] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, no, but as an Opera user, that's what I've always called FF
[07:41] <jvai> i'm stuk on this thing about debian vs mozzilla.. sad
[07:41] <shriphani> wish me good luck folks !!!
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[07:41] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, is there a space after the word the?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: since you've got crazy admin knowledge, what is Ubuntu going to be doing to the FF package?
[07:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is there suppose to be?
[07:42] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, haven't a clue
[07:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> Because for example
[07:42] <kamui> ooooooook
[07:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> ~/Desktop/hdb1/Musak/The Bled/
[07:42] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, I do not know. I am asking you.
[07:42] <Sktfeelsdapper> And it tells me no such thing exists but it's there.
[07:42] <Madpilot> Sktfeelsdapper, try typing "The<tab>" to auto complete with the space
[07:43] <jvai> ubuntu may follow debian... we're mostly the same... ubuntu needs debian
[07:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it keeps giving me a "could not find "the"
[07:43] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, why don't you try replacing the spaces in the names with underscores? Bash does not handle spaces very well in all circumstances.
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[07:43] <SeraVitae> what packages should i get to install java?
[07:43] <SeraVitae> java-common, anything else?
[07:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SeraVitae about java
[07:43] <Sktfeelsdapper> no such file or directory
[07:43] <conner> unfknblvbl, except when there are multiple spaces in the file. Bash does not like that.
[07:44] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, yes, have you replaced the spaces with underscores?
[07:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah
[07:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> The_Bled
[07:44] <ShadeT> Geoffrey2, Type gstreamer-properties
[07:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't think there's anymore spaces in the file name.
[07:44] <ShadeT> Go to video tab
[07:44] <ShadeT> And see if any of the other output plugins work
[07:44] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, and has the error message changed?
[07:44] <SeraVitae> Madpilot - 'cant find package sun-java5-jre'
[07:45] <Sktfeelsdapper> Nope still "cannot find"
[07:45] <Madpilot> SeraVitae, did you mention earlier that you're still running 6.04 (Breezy)?
[07:45] <Sktfeelsdapper> but i can play these songs just fine!
[07:45] <Overand> boozy
[07:45] <jvai> efty's browser may be called "bon echo"?
[07:45] <shriphani> hey ppl now i need a goodd burning app
[07:46] <shriphani> i wasted like 10 cds on for this debian iso
[07:46] <jvai> gnome baker for burning
[07:46] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, perhaps you have the case wrong? Capital "T" vs "t"?
[07:46] <Geoffrey2> ShadeT, that would work, even if I'm using totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer?
[07:46] <shriphani> some boot others dont
[07:46] <SeraVitae> madewokherd - yeah, i did mention that earlier
[07:46] <SeraVitae> server install of badger
[07:46] <shriphani> some cant load installer packages
[07:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> nope still the same.
[07:46] <SeraVitae> i dont mind upgrading to dapper but i don't know how
[07:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> aren't i suppose to be able to go in and at least look at the mp3 files from the command line?
[07:46] <SeraVitae> i'd prefer to be on dapper cuz im used to it on my other boxes
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> if I go into ~/Desktop/hdb1/Musak
[07:47] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SeraVitae about upgradd
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgradd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> And hit list it shows them there in blue
[07:47] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SeraVitae about upgrade
[07:47] <shriphani> !cdburning
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdburning - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <shriphani> !cd
[07:47] <ShadeT> shriphani, gnomebaker is pretty good, and nautilus has its own for cd image files.
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, of course you can. The error you seem to be getting says that bash cannot recognize the file/path you are typing in.
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it's there man!
[07:47] <shriphani> ShadeT, not one i burnt works right
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> haha
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> it shows the file names in blue!
[07:47] <shriphani> and i did check the md5sum
[07:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> But I can't get into them!
[07:48] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, blue ?
[07:48] <shriphani> blue is for the dirs
[07:48] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, what is the command you are typing in?
[07:48] <shriphani> ShadeT, which is the best app for this ?
[07:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> cd
[07:48] <ShadeT> Geoffrey2, You may need to edit ~/.xine/config or ~/.gnome2/totem_config
[07:48] <hanasaki> where is the ubuntu package for xen?
[07:49] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, cd is change directory
[07:49] <hanasaki> !find xen
[07:49] <ubotu> Found: gtk-engines-xenophilia, libexene-smlnj, libjaxen-java, libroxen-123session, libroxen-adbanner (and 81 others)
[07:49] <shriphani> srinivas ?
[07:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> Don't I want to change to the directory to list them, in order to use lame?
[07:49] <sri999> hi freinds im new to LINUX
[07:49] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, so you type in "cd ~/Desktop/hdb1/Musak/"?
[07:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> I think I still need to do alot of research. Haha
[07:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah
[07:49] <sri999> could anybody pls guide me
[07:50] <shriphani> sri999, with ?
[07:50] <Geoffrey2> I think originally I'd fixed it by installing 915resolution, since apparently there were problems with the Intel 915 graphics chip, but that doesn't seem to be solving the problem this time
[07:50] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, and it says that it cannot find "The"?
[07:50] <sri999> just loaded ubuntu 5.05 on my PC
[07:50] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yes
[07:50] <Madpilot> sri999, you'll get better help if you ask more specific questions...
[07:50] <ShadeT> shriphani, I usually use those two.  What type of image are you attempting to burn and what is wrong with the cd afterwards?
[07:50] <Lam_> how do i uninstall a package that i installed using dpkg
[07:50] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, since there is no "The" in that command, I think you may be confused about what you are typing in.
[07:50] <shriphani> ShadeT, the first cd i burnt didnt boot
[07:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> So what should I put in?
[07:51] <sri999> i want to play audio files in lunux
[07:51] <shriphani> sri999, format ?
[07:51] <sri999> real format audio files
[07:51] <ShadeT> shriphani, Did you make the cd image, are you sure it has a boot record on the image?
[07:51] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, well, it's been fun, but I have to go now.
[07:51] <sasank> what happens if i put a script in /etc/init.d/local ?
[07:51] <shriphani> sri999, vlc media player might be yours
[07:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> HAHA
[07:51] <shriphani> ShadeT, the second one booted
[07:51] <Sktfeelsdapper> !bash
[07:51] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:51] <shriphani> but it couldnt load installer packages
[07:51] <sasank> ubotu init.d
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <shriphani> and sri999 5.05 is erm old
[07:52] <shriphani> you might be better off with dapper
[07:53] <MrDarcy> can anyone give me the best repository for amd64 smp kernel?
[07:53] <Sktfeelsdapper> But really I need help here
[07:53] <eigenlambda> the main repository doesn't have one?
[07:53] <jvai> lol... shriphani, 5.04 is what i'm on now, & tru it's old, but i got it where i want it.. it's bettr than xp pro
[07:53] <shriphani> hmm
[07:53] <elkbuntu> shriphani, actually. 5.05 never existed :|
[07:53] <jvai> dapper will be my answer to vista
[07:54] <shriphani> yeh
[07:54] <jvai> 5.04
[07:54] <eigenlambda> jvai: linux is much, much easier to upgrade than windows
[07:54] <eigenlambda> much
[07:54] <sasank> ubotu, /etc/init.d/local
[07:54] <ShadeT> shriphani, Second one?  So it worked before, although didn't the first time?
[07:54] <shriphani> ShadeT, it didnt work
[07:54] <shriphani> it would boot but couldnt load the installer files
[07:55] <SeraVitae> Hm.
[07:55] <SeraVitae> my cdrom drive won't eject.
[07:55] <sasank> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=111723&postcount=19 i want to know why i should place the script in /etc/init.d/local
[07:55] <ShadeT> That almost sounds like an image problem, or bad download of the image
[07:55] <SeraVitae> making it pretty hard to stick the dapper cd in. :P
[07:55] <eigenlambda> n00b
[07:55] <eigenlambda> hm
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etc/init.d/local - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <eigenlambda> are you in linux?
[07:55] <eigenlambda> sudo umount /dev/hdb?
[07:56] <SeraVitae> it's not mounted
[07:56] <SeraVitae> as far as i can see
[07:56] <jvai> seravite: log out & log in again t oopen the cd
[07:56] <ShadeT> The burning software would either burn or not burn
[07:56] <shriphani> hm
[07:56] <SeraVitae> yeah ill just reboot
[07:56] <jvai> that works for me
[07:56] <leshaste> anyone got any idea how you install/fix "platform fonts" for gs?
[07:56] <Dr_Fate> Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-27-amd64-k8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:57:42 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:56] <Dr_Fate> why does that read smp?
[07:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> This command line thing is driving me crazy
[07:56] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, what are you doing ?
[07:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> It's telling me that the folders I have with the music inside don't exist, but I'm looking RIGHT AT THEM
[07:57] <sri999> to view MPEG format files in linux,can anyone tell me which player to install
[07:57] <eigenlambda> because you have the smp preempt kernel
[07:57] <eigenlambda> do you not want an smp kernel?
[07:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> i want to get into my folders with music in them, so that I can use lame and convert them to mp3's.
[07:57] <shriphani> sri gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[07:57] <jvai> sri999: totem xine
[07:57] <shriphani> sri999, ^
[07:57] <odyssevs> Is there a solution for installing Ubuntu without having a CD? Floppy disk to launch into network install or something?
[07:57] <surface3> sri999:  gmplayer, xine
[07:57] <MrDarcy> can anyone give me the best repository for amd64 smp kernel?
[07:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> but i can only get as far as the main folder
[07:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> it says my music folders don't exist!
[07:57] <Sktfeelsdapper> BUT THEY DO
[07:57] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, type pwd
[07:57] <totall_6_7> Sktfeelsdapper: make sure that you are typeing the folder name exactly with all the corrct caps
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Skt: what problem are you having?
[07:58] <shriphani> what's it say
[07:58] <seeeker1> how can I run Yahoo! Messenger on Ubuntu Dapper please?
[07:58] <jvai> did u move them from the /home dir? SKT
[07:58] <ArrenLex> seeker: do you specifically need Yahoo! Messenger? How about Gaim?
[07:58] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, i have a hunch you dont know where you are
[07:58] <surface3> seeeker1:  use gaim instead
[07:58] <nocti> seeeker1, gaim?
[07:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> No I do!
[07:58] <shriphani> so type pwd and tell me what you see
[07:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> I have all of my music in a folder on my second hd.
[07:59] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, please type pwd
[07:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> It says for instance the name of one folder is "The Bled"
[07:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it says "The: no such file or directory
[08:00] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, do you know your present working dir ?
[08:00] <ArrenLex> Sktfeels: spaces have to be escaped. Type "The\ Bled"
[08:00] <nocti> Sktfeelsdapper, cd "The\ Bled"
[08:00] <shriphani> yeh
[08:00] <shriphani> linux no like the spaces
[08:00] <jvai> i made a music foloder t oalways play my ogg files burnt from cd's, exstracting them put them in the home folder, but when i move them to the music folder i just right clik, & do a "open w/ music player"
[08:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it's telling me THE cannot be found.
[08:00] <shriphani> you type cd The\ Bled
[08:00] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, I thought that you had changed the name of that folder to "The_Bled".
[08:00] <nocti> Sktfeelsdapper, always escape spaces in filenames/directories with backslash, and always quote them
[08:01] <MrDarcy> where can i get the latest smp amd64 kernel for edgy?
[08:01] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, I thought that you had changed the name of that folder to "The_Bled".
[08:01] <shriphani> or just type cd Th and press the tab key
[08:01] <Sktfeelsdapper> NO it's been "the bled"
[08:01] <sasank> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm
[08:01] <nocti> Sktfeelsdapper, or do a 'cd <tab>' and let it help you with choices
[08:01] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, did you type what we asked you to ?
[08:01] <conner> Sktfeelsdapper, no, you said that you changed it when I suggested that you replace the spaces with underscores.
[08:02] <nocti> Sktfeelsdapper, pastebin an 'ls -1' for us somewhere
[08:02] <eigenlambda> Sktfeelsdapper: type "the<TAB>
[08:02] <ArrenLex> Skfeelsdapper, I'm just going to type your name cause everyone's doing it.
[08:02] <eigenlambda> and it will fill in the space and everything
[08:02] <SeraVitae> what the heck
[08:02] <seeeker1> surface3: ah ok! Gaim!  cheers
[08:02] <eigenlambda> including the end quote
[08:02] <RAMiN> hello
[08:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ok I got it.
[08:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> Tab did the trick
[08:02] <SeraVitae> apt-get is asking me to put in the badger cd, so i put it in, and it just keeps asking me.
[08:02] <RAMiN> I need help
[08:02] <SeraVitae> if i put the dapper one in though, it works. ??
[08:02] <RAMiN> I am installing Ubuntu
[08:03] <eigenlambda> also: type another tab, and it will change everything to backslashes from quote marks
[08:03] <RAMiN> and I need help with the partioning
[08:03] <Sktfeelsdapper> Dear Lordy did that take too much time.
[08:03] <RAMiN> anyone?
[08:03] <eigenlambda> ya, well
[08:03] <eigenlambda> now you know
[08:03] <nocti> dear lordy, people should learn how to learn more...
[08:03] <ArrenLex> ramin, what's the problem?
[08:03] <Sktfeelsdapper> So I can access this, to get Lame to turn m4a's into mp3's right?
[08:03] <seeeker1>  ah ok! Gaim!  cheers
[08:03] <eigenlambda> nxt time it won't take to long
[08:04] <eigenlambda> no... you need an m4a decoder too
[08:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> Oh.
[08:04] <RAMiN> I am trying to partion
[08:04] <RAMiN> but it wont work
[08:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is there a m4a decoder into a mp3?
[08:04] <eigenlambda> in principle, you could get your m4a decoder and your mp3 encoder and use a shell pipe
[08:04] <eigenlambda> in practice, just use vlc.  lol.
[08:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> vlc?
[08:05] <asmandeus> decent video player
[08:05] <RAMiN> I cant choose to make the root system partition
[08:05] <eigenlambda> vlc will happily convert files between formats for you
[08:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> I saw someone on the forum say something about a shell pipe.
[08:05] <eigenlambda> so will mencoder (from mplayer)
[08:05] <nocti> eigenlambda, i agree. why convert :) but it's all about choice :)
[08:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> so i should look up vlc huh?
[08:05] <eigenlambda> yes... wheres the m4a decoder though?
[08:05] <asmandeus> trying to figure out why my sound cuts out during playback of a video file
[08:05] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:06] <asmandeus> makes this slight popping noise for a moment then resumes
[08:06] <totall_6_7> Sktfeelsdapper: its in synaptic
[08:06] <RAMiN> how do I partition to make ubuntu work
[08:06] <eigenlambda> vlc is pretty good for conversions
[08:06] <RAMiN> someone help!
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Ramin: WHAT PROBLEM ARE YOU HAVING?!
[08:06] <eigenlambda> apt-get install vlc
[08:06] <ArrenLex> What issue? Problem what? Error messages are yes? What saying it?!
[08:06] <eigenlambda> RAMiN needs partitioning instructions, but he hasn't said what he even wants
[08:07] <RAMiN> wait
[08:07] <RAMiN> I will explain it
[08:07] <Sktfeelsdapper> gparted.
[08:07] <nocti> RAMiN, call 911
[08:07] <eigenlambda> nocti: oh come on
[08:07] <ArrenLex> Ramin: jump up and down naked
[08:07] <Sktfeelsdapper> vlc will decode music files?
[08:07] <ArrenLex> !
[08:07] <Sktfeelsdapper> it looks like vlc is just a movie player?
[08:07] <nocti> ")
[08:07] <eigenlambda> ArrenLex: thats not fair
[08:07] <RAMiN> okay, so, I try to partition my harddrive, and it tells me that it cant find any root system
[08:07] <asmandeus> I believe it decodes music too
[08:07] <RAMiN> when I install it
[08:07] <ArrenLex> eigen: all's fair in jumping up and down naked and war.
[08:08] <eigenlambda> RAMiN: you need to label your partitions
[08:08] <RAMiN> how many partitions do I need to make, and what sizes do they need to be?
[08:08] <RAMiN> yes
[08:08] <asmandeus> at least I remember using it to listen to some music on windows
[08:08] <ArrenLex> Ramin: you need to specify a partition to use as root.
[08:08] <eigenlambda> the root one needs to be called "/"
[08:08] <nocti> :) just makin everyone lighten up eigenlambda while waiting for the actual question
[08:08] <RAMiN> oh
[08:08] <ArrenLex> Ramin: you need at least two partitions for Linux. A root partition and a swap partition.
[08:08] <RAMiN> okay
[08:08] <ShadeT> You need to make a root partition.
[08:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't want to listen to music I want to convert it.
[08:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> Haha
[08:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> Oh you crazy kids!
[08:08] <RAMiN> would I label one of them as linux-swap?
[08:08] <nocti> RAMiN, you need / and swap basically
[08:08] <RAMiN> as in the chart
[08:08] <eigenlambda> no, just swap
[08:08] <asmandeus> ahhhh sorry, came in half way through the discussion
[08:08] <RAMiN> okay
[08:09] <RAMiN> let me try that then
[08:09] <RAMiN> brb
[08:09] <nocti> that was quick
[08:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> lawdy this has been an all might trial.
[08:09] <asmandeus> I'm not much use then, never had to covert anything except from wav -> mp3
[08:09] <asmandeus> which I used audacity
[08:09] <sri999> can anyone wht ar torrent files
[08:09] <MrDarcy> damnit cant find an amd64 kernel smp for edgy
[08:09] <sri999> and wht ar they used for
[08:10] <nocti> sri999, torrent files are evil :) in a good way :)
[08:10] <Lam_> how do i use samba to enable network printing?
[08:10] <eigenlambda> torrent files are rly nice
[08:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> audacity didn't like me for whatever reason.
[08:10] <nocti> sri999, they're used for downloading stuff, from iso's to movies and erm... pr0n
[08:10] <surface3> Lam_:  use CUPS
[08:10] <RAMiN> I turn one into linux swap but it turns itself into ext3
[08:10] <eigenlambda> what better way is there to distribute a file quickly?
[08:10] <RAMiN> automatically
[08:10] <eigenlambda> the internet is essentially p2p
[08:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> well i'm trying to convert m4a into mp3 or something that I don't need some special plugin to use.
[08:11] <sri999> from where can i download torrent files
[08:11] <RAMiN> thepiratebay.org
[08:11] <eigenlambda> Sktfeelsdapper: have you tried vlc yet?
[08:11] <RAMiN> lol
[08:11] <eigenlambda> sri999: mininova.org
[08:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> i'll do it now.
[08:11] <nocti> sri999, torrent files specify which people/computers have the file you want and you download from *them* in slices
[08:11] <RAMiN> it depends on what you want to get
[08:11] <RAMiN> ebooks
[08:11] <RAMiN> appz
[08:11] <RAMiN> 0day releases
[08:11] <asmandeus> sri999, when in doubt, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent
[08:11] <nocti> sri999, lots. get the torrent extension for firefox for best results
[08:12] <sri999> s/w's?
[08:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> I can't ever find any files I'll actually listen to on Torrents.
[08:12] <RAMiN> just use utorrent or use azureus with linux
[08:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> I think I've found 2 total albums I liked out of like 20 sites.
[08:12] <RAMiN> utorrent is with windows
[08:12] <variant>  RAMiN that kind of subject is not really suitable for a public channel like this i dont think
[08:12] <RAMiN> your right
[08:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'll stick with Nicotine+ thanks.
[08:12] <RAMiN> I came here for help with partitionaing
[08:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> Now that I finally got it effin working.
[08:13] <variant> RAMiN: whats the problem?
[08:13] <asmandeus> does mplayer do oss and alsa?
[08:13] <variant> asmandeus: yep
[08:13] <asmandeus> maybe my whole problem is alsa
[08:13] <ricky> how can i do a email @ubuntu.org
[08:13] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:13] <variant> asmandeus: it uses either
[08:13] <RAMiN> how do i give a partion the / sign
[08:13] <RAMiN> it doesnt let me
[08:13] <RAMiN> you wanne screenshot?
[08:13] <variant> RAMiN: what are you using?
[08:14] <RAMiN> ubuntu
[08:14] <variant> RAMiN: sure
[08:14] <variant> RAMiN: i mean, are you using the installer?
[08:14] <eigenlambda> he's in the installer
[08:14] <RAMiN> yes
[08:14] <variant> RAMiN: screenshot pls
[08:14] <RAMiN> should I use something else?
[08:14] <RAMiN> k
[08:14] <ricky> how can i make a email @ubuntu.org?
[08:14] <RAMiN> 1 sec
[08:14] <ricky> can somebody help me?
[08:14] <variant> ricky: be an ubuntu developer?
[08:15] <sunpac> ricky, make?
[08:15] <nocti> ricky, you can't. unless you join the developers
[08:15] <ArrenLex> asmandeus: mplayer does everything. Except your mom.
[08:15] <rodrigo> lol
[08:15] <ArrenLex> or maybe even your mom. I haven't checked.
[08:15] <asmandeus> excellent
[08:15] <RAMiN> I will upload it to photobucket
[08:15] <RAMiN> so wai
[08:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ok isn't there anything easier to use?
[08:15] <RAMiN> t
[08:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> I seriously don't understand this at all.
[08:15] <eigenlambda> ya rly
[08:15] <Gk-s2-> hi
[08:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just play a file, and it will be converted?
[08:16] <ricky> hey i wanna do a email @ubuntu.org can someone help me?
[08:16] <nocti> ArrenLex, mplayer makes better coffee than anything else :)
[08:16] <variant> Sktfeelsdapper: what you doing?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> asman: mplayer can use any backend, any frontend, it can dump streams to a file, dump any file to wav, play dvds, audio cds, vcds, and even encode and apply filters.
[08:16] <eigenlambda> and... i jst tried re-encoding one of my m4as to an mp3 and failed
[08:16] <ArrenLex> mplayer owns you!
[08:16] <Madpilot> ricky, are you an Ubuntu Member?
[08:16] <thelsdj> Sktfeelsdapper: what are you trying to do?
[08:16] <ricky> yeah
[08:16] <eigenlambda> he's trying to use vlc to convert an m4a to an mp3
[08:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> convert m4a to mp3.
[08:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> IS IT POSSIBLE?
[08:16] <eigenlambda> open file, click 'stream output',
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Sktfeels: how about mplayer? It can.
[08:16] <Madpilot> ricky, your @ubuntu.com email will be your LP username + @ubuntu.com
[08:16] <eigenlambda> it should work, but its way complic8ed
[08:16] <ricky> i have 1 @debian.org
[08:16] <ricky> but i wanna 1 @ubuntu.org
[08:17] <Gk-s2-> hey anyone knows how to fix " Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library." ?
[08:17] <asmandeus> since I've switched over from windows, I've been using what I was over there for video files: vlc
[08:17] <RAMiN> i uploaded the image
[08:17] <RAMiN> it is
[08:17] <ricky> ok
[08:17] <RAMiN> http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/handsome_ramin/Screenshot.png
[08:17] <nocti> ricky, how'd you get a @debian.org email?
[08:17] <ricky> thanx
[08:17] <sunpac> ricky, i can hardly believe you have @debian.org.
[08:17] <RAMiN> look at it and help me
[08:17] <variant> asmandeus: you can use vlc on ubuntu
[08:17] <asmandeus> yeah, I have been
[08:17] <variant> ricky: dont order us about
[08:17] <RAMiN> variant, check it out
[08:17] <variant> RAMiN: dont order us about
[08:17] <sunpac> ricky, did you read wrongly? i think you have @hotmail.com instead.
[08:17] <asmandeus> but I'm having an issue with the sound
[08:17] <RAMiN> what
[08:17] <thelsdj> RAMiN: i think its on next screen
[08:18] <thelsdj> did you try next?
[08:18] <ArrenLex> *snorts* 2GB? *recalls the good old days when he installed debian woody on 100MB*
[08:18] <RAMiN> what is?
[08:18] <ricky> my friend made for me but he doesn't wanna say me how he do it
[08:18] <thelsdj> what will set it to /
[08:18] <asmandeus> sound works, but cuts out
[08:18] <AWOSDev> I installed some fonts.
[08:18] <variant> RAMiN: you set the partiion locations on the next screen
[08:18] <AWOSDev> They don''t show up in Krita.
[08:18] <RAMiN> oh okay
[08:18] <thelsdj> and why is it swap?
[08:18] <AWOSDev> I did update the cache using fc-cache and sudo fc-cache.
[08:18] <asmandeus> and then comes back
[08:18] <RAMiN> i dont know
[08:18] <thelsdj> RAMiN: shouldn't that be ext3?
[08:18] <RAMiN> I dont know
[08:18] <thelsdj> RAMiN: i think yo ushould delete it and create a new one, shouldn't be swap
[08:18] <RAMiN> u guys tell me
[08:19] <RAMiN> k
[08:19] <variant> RAMiN: thats a really bad partition setup
[08:19] <RAMiN> thanks
[08:19] <ricky> sunpac do you know how to do it?
[08:19] <RAMiN> I never said I was good
[08:19] <RAMiN> :)
[08:19] <thelsdj> RAMiN: are you planning on using the rest of the disk for something else?
[08:19] <RAMiN> no
[08:19] <variant> RAMiN: is that the main/only disk?
[08:19] <RAMiN> all linux
[08:19] <thelsdj> then don't do it manually
[08:19] <nocti> RAMiN, how big is your RAM?
[08:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> So now I have to sit and let it play?
[08:19] <thelsdj> go back and let installer partition disk for you
[08:19] <RAMiN> 768
[08:19] <ArrenLex> RAMiN: are you cool?
[08:19] <omar> guys pls I need help I got a big trouble, my ubuntu doesn-t start, because of the xorg, I used this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it still can-t start, pls, I am using  a liveCD but I need to get into my ubuntu very urgently, what can I do >*
[08:19] <RAMiN> heck yes
[08:19] <rodrigo> haha
[08:19] <sri999> may i have to install any torrent s/w to download torrent files?
[08:19] <ArrenLex> RAMiN: can I say your name over and over?
[08:19] <nocti> wow 10GB of swap...
[08:20] <ArrenLex> RAMiN: hi.
[08:20] <thelsdj> haha
[08:20] <rodrigo> sri999, no
[08:20] <RAMiN> sure
[08:20] <Arafangion> omar: Say again?
[08:20] <RAMiN> is my name cool?
[08:20] <variant> omar: what error output is there?
[08:20] <LeonWP> hi
[08:20] <asmandeus> Sktfeelsdapper:  sounds like you do have to let it play from the way you're doing it
[08:20] <thelsdj> RAMiN: unless you want to spend 15 minutes reading up on good partitioning schemes, i suggest you go back and let the installer partition your disk for you
[08:20] <LeonWP> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:20] <Arafangion> omar: And what is the problem you have?  If it's an emergency, you could just use the console.
[08:20] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, for chat, #ubuntu-offtopic, please. And mind the CoC
[08:20] <CorpseFeeder> I am back in Ubuntu! did anyone miss me ?:)
[08:20] <RAMiN> okay
[08:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> It failed for me.
[08:21] <LeonWP> how do I fix that?
[08:21] <RAMiN> but sometimes, it gives me errors that is why I came here
[08:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> That's fine, I'll figure it out sooner or later.
[08:21] <LeonWP> any ideas?
[08:21] <nocti> RAMiN, delete all, start again, 1GB of swap is fine (for me anyway, depending on the size of your ram), and give the rest to /
[08:21] <thelsdj> well let us know if it gives you errors then
[08:21] <ricky> can someone tell me how can i do a email @ubuntu.org?
[08:21] <Arafangion> LeonWP: apt-get install build-essential
[08:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> There should be an easier way of doing this.
[08:21] <RAMiN> okay, now, I let it do everything automatically
[08:21] <variant> LeonWP: did you install build-essential?
[08:21] <RAMiN> lets see what it does
[08:21] <omar> Arafangion:  yes I can use the console, the error is failed server x
[08:21] <LeonWP> thy Arafangion
[08:21] <LeonWP> variant, no :)
[08:22] <asmandeus> I'm pretty sure there is, but my knowledge on linux is limited
[08:22] <RAMiN> stuck on 15% percent
[08:22] <variant> LeonWP: apt-get build-essential
[08:22] <CorpseFeeder> I got my RT61 wireless card working by some miracle... hooray for me!
[08:22] <RAMiN> failed to create a system file
[08:22] <RAMiN> failed to create a file system
[08:22] <asmandeus> RAMiN: ah that LiveCD problem
[08:22] <rodrigo> lol
[08:22] <nocti> ricky, unless you can develop programs for ubuntu or anything else, and devote your life and limb to the cause :) .... errr you can't get an @ubuntu.com email
[08:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> Wow it's cold in here tonight!
[08:22] <unfknblvbl> hey i got that same livecd error
[08:22] <unfknblvbl> but i just restarted the computer
[08:22] <unfknblvbl> twice
[08:22] <RAMiN> yes, but i have installed ubuntu with the same cd before
[08:22] <unfknblvbl> and then it installed
[08:22] <LeonWP> I'm on edgy, btw :)
[08:22] <RAMiN> I just dont remember
[08:23] <asmandeus> RAMiN: yeah
[08:23] <rodrigo> I'm on edgy too
[08:23] <ShadeT> Download the alternative install disc
[08:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> How's edgy?
[08:23] <unfknblvbl> i'm edgy but using ubuntu
[08:23] <variant> ricky: unless you change you reply to email to whatever@ubuntu.org but dont expect to receive replys :)
[08:23] <asmandeus> to get around that, I had to take my WINXP cd and take the partitions I made for ubuntu
[08:23] <mtholdenss> umm i did the command u told me to do which was sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade and it came back with this  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25376/
[08:23] <RAMiN> so what do you guys think
[08:23] <asmandeus> and remake them into a fat partition
[08:23] <variant> LeonWP: ok, did you install build-essential?
[08:23] <asmandeus> then popped the LiveCD back in and it worked fine
[08:23] <RAMiN> me?
[08:23] <LeonWP> now I did :)
[08:23] <RAMiN> really?
[08:24] <AWOSDev> fonts...
[08:24] <rodrigo> mtholdenss, you have to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:24] <omar>  variant: yes I can use the console, the error is failed server x
[08:24] <thelsdj> RAMiN: the solution appears to be to download the 'alternate installation cd'
[08:24] <asmandeus> for some reason the whole problem was because of already having the EXT3 partition made
[08:24] <variant> RAMiN: open a terminal and use cfdisk to repartition the drive
[08:24] <RAMiN> which one is that?
[08:24] <RAMiN> okay
[08:24] <ricky> variant how can i do that?
[08:24] <CorpseFeeder> I left ubuntu and went with Madriva for a couple of days trying to get this damned RT61 wireless card to work and got even less further ahead... SO this morning I went back to Ubuntu and tried something new and so far it is working well.
[08:24] <variant> omar: there will be a lot of error output (you just need to know how to find it) we wont really be able to help you without it
[08:24] <RAMiN> fatal error
[08:24] <AWOSDev> RAMin, on Windows huh?  :P
[08:24] <RAMiN> cannot open diskdrive
[08:25] <thelsdj> i'm going to bed so someone else will have to help you now RAMiN
[08:25] <RAMiN> no
[08:25] <mtholdenss> rodrigo thanks much
[08:25] <ubuntu> hi all
[08:25] <variant> ricky: why would i tell you that? obviously you would use it for nefarious reasons :)
[08:25] <AWOSDev> RAMiN, try to do sudo cfdisk :)
[08:25] <ubuntu> hia ll
[08:25] <sri999> can anyone suggest which is the best linux distr tht can be used by a bloke new to linux
[08:25] <RAMiN> k
[08:25] <RAMiN> nope doesnt work
[08:25] <variant> sri999: that would be ubuntu
[08:25] <ubuntu> how can i copy ubuntu from small hdd to bugger hdd?
[08:25] <asmandeus> sri999: this one
[08:25] <ubuntu> I have mount the other hdd
[08:25] <ArrenLex> sri999: as you might expect, here on the #ubuntu channel, we will recommend ubuntu.
[08:25] <variant> ubuntu: use dd
[08:25] <asmandeus> sri999: this has been the easist distro I've messed with
[08:25] <rodrigo> mtholdenss, no problem :)
[08:26] <Arafangion> variant: dd is incorrect.
[08:26] <ubuntu> varr what is the full commaand?
[08:26] <AWOSDev> sri999, yeah it is pretty easy.  Easier than Red Hat or SuSE.
[08:26] <asmandeus> sri999: and that counts among red hat, suse, debian, slackware, gentoo
[08:26] <ubuntu> dd  ?
[08:26] <variant> Arafangion: why? i have used that to copy disks many times
[08:26] <RAMiN> fedora core is easier
[08:26] <AWOSDev> I guess everybody's tried Red Hat :P
[08:26] <asmandeus> although, I really don't know that much about linux :(
[08:26] <ubuntu> so in ubuntu dapper?
[08:26] <variant> Arafangion: you obviously know better..
[08:26] <Arafangion> variant: It is bitwise.
[08:26] <sri999> can anyone xplain clearly about torrents and their applications,and how to get started
[08:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> Who uses m4a's anyways, I mean are they the new awesome thing?>
[08:26] <RAMiN> it always sticks on 15%
[08:26] <asmandeus> especially problems with sound $@$#
[08:26] <Arafangion> variant: tar or even just cp -rvp is better.
[08:26] <RAMiN> wtf
[08:26] <variant> sri999: you will need somthing like azurius
[08:27] <RAMiN> sorry but i am mad
[08:27] <variant> Arafangion: true..
[08:27] <unfknblvbl> azureus*
[08:27] <AWOSDev> Can I please have help with fonts?
[08:27] <rodrigo> sri999, by the default you can use bittorrent software
[08:27] <ubuntu> ara to copy hdd from disk to disk
[08:27] <variant> Arafangion: the partitions i backed up were unmountable though
[08:27] <CorpseFeeder> if anyone with a non-functional RT61 wireless card is interested, I posted how I made mine work here in the RaLink Tech Linux Forum http://forums.ralinktech.com.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2469 Should I post this somewhere in the Ubuntu forums too?
[08:27] <omar> variant: I start the PC, then I get a msg FAIL WHEN THE SERVER X START, (GRAPHICAL INTERFAZ), then the terminal
[08:27] <asmandeus> RAMiN: if you have a windows CD, try booting into that and ripping those linux partitions apart - putting them into FAT and then trying the liveCD again
[08:27] <Arafangion> variant: Unmountable?  I'd have taken the HDD out, and replaced it. :)
[08:27] <variant> omar: yeah, there should be some error output
[08:28] <asmandeus> RAMiN: I think there is a bug on the LiveCD that causes the error you're getting
[08:28] <variant> Arafangion: yeah, essential info on that partition though
[08:28] <asmandeus> RAMiN: and that was my work around
[08:28] <nocti> CorpseFeeder, that's a nice contribution. thanks from the community.
[08:28] <RAMiN> what about last time
[08:28] <RAMiN> my first time, this didnt happen
[08:28] <asmandeus> exactly
[08:28] <asmandeus> RAMiN:
[08:28] <sri999> how can i get started with the default bittorrent
[08:28] <Arafangion> variant: How essential? If it was very valuable, I'd get it professionally extracted.
[08:28] <RAMiN> that sounds like a lot of work
[08:29] <variant> Arafangion: nah, if i couldnt do it myself i would have.
[08:29] <Arafangion> variant: As any access to the HDD could make it deteriate more.
[08:29] <omar> variant: what can I do now, I try to reconfigure the xorg, but I still can open my ubuntu
[08:29] <asmandeus> RAMiN: It seems to be some kinda bug that when you try to install onto an already made partition by the LiveCD, it comes up with the locking at 15% and that error
[08:29] <variant> Arafangion: not when its unmounted..
[08:29] <rodrigo> sri999, just open any .torrent file and it will do its job
[08:29] <RAMiN> oh
[08:29] <RAMiN> i see
[08:29] <Arafangion> variant: Yes, when it's unmounted.
[08:29] <RAMiN> because I am installing this on top of fedora core 65
[08:29] <variant> omar: sorry, without error output or a description of what you did to break it there is nothing i can do
[08:29] <RAMiN> 5*
[08:29] <asmandeus> Might be
[08:29] <Arafangion> variant: I'm assuming a physical issue, otherwise you shouldn't have much problem with mounting it.
[08:29] <AWOSDev> 65?  dang they did progress fast :P
[08:30] <RAMiN> 5
[08:30] <RAMiN> I mistype
[08:30] <AWOSDev> oh okay
[08:30] <AWOSDev> :)
[08:30] <RAMiN> lol
[08:30] <asmandeus> RAMiN: I'm not sure why it'd have trouble installing into the correct file system like that
[08:30] <asmandeus> RAMiN: but for some reason that seemed to cause the problem you're having (and I had)
[08:30] <variant> Arafangion: look, this is a problem i solved a long time ago, it wasnt me asking hte question. thanks anyway
[08:30] <Arafangion> variant: :)
[08:30] <sri999> but at present i dont have any .torrent files
[08:30] <RAMiN> is there a forum post for this?
[08:30] <RAMiN> because it has to get resolved
[08:30] <asmandeus> RAMiN: I dunno
[08:30] <rodrigo> sri999, well, download one :p
[08:31] <Arafangion> variant: You weren't getting confidental data out of swap, weren't you? ;)
[08:31] <AWOSDev> Does anybody know anything about fonts?  I copied some from my Windows, rebuilt the cache, and still no fonts :(
[08:31] <AWOSDev> TrueType
[08:31] <omar> variant: everything started when I was trying to configure a xgl but I don-t get an output just a window with that msg
[08:32] <asmandeus> RAMiN: See, with my limited knowledge of troubleshooting, the best way I could come up with fixing this was to put things sorta back the way I had them - basically putting hda1 as FAT, before I partitioned it with the liveCD
[08:32] <variant> omar: i see.. you should backtrack on what you did.. you do keep a rootlog (a notepad with everything you do as root written down) dont you? :)
[08:32] <RAMiN> and I partition that with my windows pro cd
[08:32] <AWOSDev> asmandeus, I'd just make the MBR by myself :)
[08:32] <asmandeus> AWOSDev: I'm too much of a newb
[08:32] <asmandeus> :(
[08:32] <variant> RAMiN: personaly i would just wipe the partiitons with cfdisk and reboot. the installer should work then
[08:32] <RAMiN> wait, but why would FAT help it?
[08:32] <Sktfeelsdapper> soundconverter FTW
[08:33] <Sktfeelsdapper> :D
[08:33] <variant> RAMiN: it wont
[08:33] <omar> variant: nop
[08:33] <AWOSDev> RAMiN, if you email me your MBR and tell me how big you want the partitions, I can try and make an MBR for you
[08:33] <variant> AWOSDev: what are you talking about?
[08:33] <RAMiN> what is an MBR?
[08:33] <plmoki> Master Boot Record
[08:33] <rodrigo> omar, you are on big troubles... unless of course you can find and undo what you did
[08:33] <variant> RAMiN: master boot record and AWOSDev seems to be talkin bs
[08:33] <Borat> RAMiN: are you persian?, if so chetori!
[08:33] <RAMiN> yes
[08:33] <RAMiN> halam khoobe
[08:33] <AWOSDev> variant, no I'm a bootloader developer.
[08:33] <Arafangion> variant: Damn, this is crazy hour :(
[08:34] <noner> Hello I need help.
[08:34] <AWOSDev> variant, I can construct an MBR based on CHS values
[08:34] <variant> Arafangion: i see, what bootloader would that be?
[08:34] <Borat> RAMiN: bale, problem daree?
[08:34] <RAMiN> are
[08:34] <function1> how do i get to a "kernel configurator"?
[08:34] <RAMiN> Borat, are you good
[08:34] <variant> AWOSDev: and why would he need to? his problem has absolutly nothing to do with the bootloader or the mbr
[08:34] <nocti> AWOSDev, how do you do that?
[08:34] <RAMiN> to khoob hastee?
[08:34] <AWOSDev> nocti, hexedit.
[08:34] <Borat> RAMiN: promlemet ch hast?
[08:34] <AWOSDev> variant, I thought his problem was with partitions?
[08:34] <nocti> AWOSDev, :)
[08:35] <RAMiN> I get stuck at 15%
[08:35] <AWOSDev> RAMiN, is the partition layout done?
[08:35] <Borat> RAMiN: In the installation?
[08:35] <RAMiN> yes
[08:35] <AWOSDev> RAMiN, oh then you already have your MBR done.
[08:35] <RAMiN> okay
[08:35] <Borat> RAMiN: Is the HD partitioned?
[08:35] <RAMiN> sorta
[08:35] <nocti> AWOSDev, do you eat binary cereals for breakfast?
[08:36] <AWOSDev> nocti, yep :)
[08:36] <Borat> RAMiN: be ina gooshkon, medoonan.
[08:36] <RAMiN> I mean in what partition should I have it in?
[08:36] <nocti> AWOSDev, coolness
[08:36] <variant> RAMiN: just do this: in a terminal open cfdisk as root, delete all parititons, save, reboot, run the installer again
[08:36] <AWOSDev> nocti, I love low-level stuff.  I program in assembly language :)
[08:36] <RAMiN> cool
[08:36] <nocti> AWOSDev, rare you are
[08:36] <rodrigo>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[08:36] <RAMiN> what is the default root password for ubuntu?
[08:36] <rodrigo> haha oops
[08:36] <asmandeus> RAMiN: I think variant has the right idea, I'm just too much of a newbie - instead relying on a windows disc to repartition crap
[08:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> Hey who else was doing the mp3 thing?
[08:37] <variant> rodrigo: it is randomised
[08:37] <RAMiN> lol
[08:37] <Arafangion> AWOSDev: I've done machine programming.
[08:37] <Sktfeelsdapper> THey should definitley get soundconverter
[08:37] <RAMiN> its cool, you helped me
[08:37] <RAMiN> but what is the root password
[08:37] <RAMiN> in default
[08:37] <RAMiN> when you get ubuntu
[08:37] <AWOSDev> Arafangion, you mean, as in, 100100010111010001?
[08:37] <rodrigo> valehru, oh ok, ty :)
[08:37] <variant> RAMiN: it is randomised
[08:37] <rodrigo> variant, sorry err... ok, ty
[08:37] <RAMiN> crap
[08:37] <Arafangion> AWOSDev: 8-bit words, in hex.
[08:37] <variant> RAMiN: sudo su && passwd , or sudo passwd root
[08:38] <AWOSDev> Arafangion, I once made a simple program like that.
[08:38] <nocti> it's a crazy day when people starts talking in binary... hex is only a bit bad... :)
[08:38] <RAMiN> I did cfdisk but it says fatal error: cannot open disk drive
[08:38] <Arafangion> AWOSDev: Now, I prefer C.
[08:38] <RAMiN> i did it in root
[08:38] <variant> RAMiN: nice.. you might need to reboot first
[08:38] <AWOSDev> Arafangion, yeah that's pretty good too :)
[08:38] <Arafangion> AWOSDev: Ironically, I've never done assembler.
[08:39] <AWOSDev> Arafangion, hmm you need to try it :)
[08:39] <nocti> RAMiN, cfdisk /dev/hdd
[08:39] <RAMiN> so, I already have deleted everything?
[08:39] <AWOSDev> RAMiN, actually /dev/hda
[08:39] <Arafangion> AWOSDev: I'm meaning to try Palm OS Assembler.
[08:39] <variant> nocti: is it hdd he is partitioning?
[08:39] <nocti> RAMiN, be careful, you might clobber another disk if you have one
[08:39] <nocti> variant, i saw the screenshot, i think it was hdd
[08:39] <variant> RAMiN: sounds like the partition table is messed up which is likly considering the auto parititoner is stuck at 15%
[08:39] <variant> nocti: ok
[08:40] <nocti> or hdb... i dont know, but be careful
[08:40] <RAMiN> yep
[08:40] <RAMiN> that is the problem
[08:40] <noner> Hello, I am from India, I need help about an installation that has gone awry.
[08:40] <AWOSDev> Arafangion, really?  Haven't tried that...is that like the disgusting PowerPC assembler?
[08:40] <conner> !india
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about india - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <conner> Just checking.
[08:40] <RAMiN> so, should I just restart
[08:40] <asmandeus> heh
[08:40] <variant> RAMiN: i think thats a good idea
[08:40] <MrDarcy> i cant get rid of generic kernel
[08:40] <RAMiN> thanks, will you be here if i return for help?
[08:40] <Arafangion> AWOSDev: I don't know what teh assembler is like, but I'm hoping that the assember itself is fairly easy, compared to X86 assembler.
[08:41] <MrDarcy> i want amd 64 k8 smp, but every time i try to install it, it switches to the generic kernel again
[08:41] <AWOSDev> Arafangion, I like x86 assembler :)
[08:41] <MrDarcy> pleae someone help
[08:41] <Arafangion> AWOSDev: Though, I do have an m68k computer here...
[08:41] <noner> !triggers
[08:41] <variant> RAMiN: yep
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about triggers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <RAMiN> k thanks, I might return
[08:41] <variant> RAMiN: A:)
[08:41] <conner> noner, what is the nature of the problem?
[08:42] <AWOSDev> Does anybody know how to get Ubuntu to recognise my fonts?
[08:42] <CorpseFeeder> I've now posted my "how I got the RT61 wireless to work" to the Ubuntu forums here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269001
[08:42] <AWOSDev> CorpseFeeder, how bout the bcm43xx?  have any success there?
[08:43] <nocti> AWOSDev, depends on what app/toolkit (ie, gtk, qt, kde, terminals, etc..)
[08:43] <AWOSDev> nocti, Krita
[08:43] <CorpseFeeder> ermmm... I don't know what a bcm43xx is, sorry
[08:43] <conner> AWOSDev, try this page, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[08:43] <noner> conner can I give the link to my posting on the forum?
[08:43] <conner> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:43] <nocti> AWOSDev, it's a KDE app.. xfonts-* work
[08:44] <conner> noner, check out the instructions with pastebin. That usually works.
[08:44] <AWOSDev> nocti, I need a specific font
[08:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> Now i need a ide tagger.
[08:44] <sri999> i have dowloaded realplayer for linux ,how to execute the setup file
[08:44] <nocti> AWOSDev, then install em
[08:44] <AWOSDev> nocti, Roadgeek 2005 Series Em. e.g. road signs.
[08:44] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, easytag is good
[08:44] <Madpilot> Sktfeelsdapper, EasyTag
[08:44] <omar> variant:  I remembered the error was no sreem found
[08:44] <Axidus> hello
[08:44] <variant> anyone know what package cfdisk is part of under ubuntu?
[08:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> Exactly how bad is the conversion from m4a to mp3?
[08:44] <AWOSDev> nocti, TTF.  the link conner gave me is loading...
[08:44] <nocti> AWOSDev, is it available in apt?
[08:44] <variant> omar: yeah, thats not the error sorry
[08:44] <Sktfeelsdapper> I mean am I gonna notice the difference?
[08:44] <afflux> variant, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:44] <Axidus> is anyone here a software engineer?
[08:44] <nocti> AWOSDev, ah
[08:44] <variant> omar: no screens found
[08:45] <sri999> im getting error as couldnt dialplay
[08:45] <variant> afflux: cant find it in there
[08:45] <afflux> following problem: im using KDE and GNOME applications, which both should output some sound. i got amarok to work without problems, now i started using kopete as my IM, and i tried some things, now amarok blocks the sound device, although i told it to use alsa.
[08:45] <sri999> can anyone pls help me
[08:45] <AWOSDev> Axidus, me!
[08:45] <shriphani> !anyone
[08:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:45] <AWOSDev> nocti, no, it's a specialty font.  and conner's link didn't help.
[08:45] <afflux> variant: so it won't be in the official repos, nor in the uni/multiverse
[08:45] <Axidus> AWOSdev: is there anyway I can ask you some questions in private?
[08:45] <variant> shriphani: he allready asked the question
[08:45] <AWOSDev> Axidus, sure.
[08:45] <shriphani> ohh
[08:45] <AWOSDev> query me.
[08:46] <variant> afflux: suprising seeing as its on the live cd
[08:46] <omar> variant: yes no sreens found
[08:46] <conner> AWOSDev, are you sure it is a TrueType font?
[08:46] <AWOSDev> conner, yes.
[08:46] <AWOSDev> conner, RoadgeekEm.ttf
[08:46] <nocti> AWOSDev, where is it? is it available in the ubuntu repos?
[08:46] <variant> omar: thats not the error message, the message is above that with EE at the start of the line
[08:46] <afflux> variant: oh. sure that the filename is exactly cfdisk?
[08:46] <shriphani> sri999, you wanna use bittorrent
[08:46] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, drop it in ~/.fonts and it should be found by all apps
[08:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> I just don't want the sound to be terrible.
[08:46] <AWOSDev> nocti, it is available for free download - here I'll get the link
[08:46] <noner> conner, I can paste the text here?
[08:46] <variant> afflux: yup
[08:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> And why are all my mp3's with a pencil and a x through them?
[08:46] <AWOSDev> !tell noner about paste
[08:47] <conner> noner, if it is a web page, sure.
[08:47] <noner> My system (MSI MB and AMD Sempron processor) had Win 98 in C and Win XP in D. I decided to delete Win 98 and install Ubuntu there. I put the Ubuntu CD in the CD ROM and format the C drive using Ubuntu and install it on CD. The other partitions are left untouched. Ubuntu installed successfully on C. However I no longer have boot option. The system boots into Ubntu without offering any option....
[08:47] <noner> ...Other partitions can't be accessed either. Besides, Ubuntu has no sound nor video support. Ubuntu doesn't recognise the drivers that came with the MSI Mother Board. Can I save the XP installation on my D drive? If I want XP and Ubuntu dual boot, how should I go about it? Please advise me.
[08:47] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, did you with with them as root ?
[08:47] <afflux> omg....
[08:47] <Axidus> AWOSdev: I opened a dialog box
[08:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> Did I what with them?
[08:47] <afflux> err, variant? if i enter the "cfdisk" in the box that says "Search the contents of packages" it outputs base/util-linux
[08:47] <shriphani> Sktfeelsdapper, fiddle
[08:47] <nocti> noner == goner
[08:48] <afflux> variant: so, your package is util-linux
[08:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> No, I'm doing this just as me.
[08:48] <sri999> error:got bad file info
[08:48] <variant> afflux: how did you find that?
[08:48] <enyc> Quostion: ?is there likely te be another point-release cd update soon [6.06.2]  ?
[08:48] <foo> vncviewer -compresslevel 0 -quality 0 172.16.1.253 - why does the quality look the same if I leave out these options?
[08:48] <shriphani> sri999, thats a problem with the torrent
[08:48] <noner> Why am I a goner nocti ?
[08:48] <nocti> noner, when you were still using 98/xp, what bootloader were you using
[08:48] <sri999> this is the error i received while using bit torrent to install real player
[08:49] <afflux> variant: on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ there are two boxes... one says "Search package directories" which means search the name of the packages, and "Search the contents of packages", which means the contents :)
[08:49] <noner> I have no idea nocti .
[08:49] <shriphani> sri999, dont use bittorrent to install realplayer
[08:49] <shriphani> use apt-get
[08:49] <variant> afflux: yeah, thanks!
[08:49] <nocti> noner, i mean before you installed ubuntu, what did your harddisks look like (98 in drive C, xp in D, etc...)
[08:49] <Madpilot> sri999, if  you really need realplayer (why?) it is in the repos...
[08:49] <sri999> friends i have just dowloaded realplayer and i got the setup file now
[08:49] <conner> noner, does this page help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=360395
[08:49] <shriphani> bittorrent is a peer to peer file sharing service
[08:49] <variant> afflux: doesnt look like its in edgy for some bizar reason
[08:49] <sri999> how to install real player
[08:50] <noner> conner, let me check the page.
[08:50] <shriphani> sri999, use apt-get
[08:50] <nocti> sri999, dpkg -i realplayer*.deb
[08:50] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell sri999 about realplayer
[08:50] <shriphani> o
[08:50] <sri999> as it is displaying cannot cannot diapplay file
[08:50] <shriphani> you downloaded the deb sri999 ?
[08:50] <AWOSDev> nocti, http://www.triskele.com/fonts/
[08:50] <afflux> variant: no. i have the package, and i'm in dapper
[08:50] <Madpilot> nocti, it's in repos, no need for dpkg even
[08:50] <variant> afflux: yeah, so its not in edgy
[08:50] <afflux> ahj
[08:50] <afflux> -sry
[08:51] <nocti> Madpilot, ah, didn't do it that way... but it worked... :)
[08:51] <afflux> variant: i havent read the "doesn't" :)
[08:51] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, stupid question coming your way: I don't have a .fonts directory, should I create it?
[08:51] <nocti> Madpilot, i think sri999 got the *.deb file
[08:51] <variant> afflux: :)
[08:51] <MrDarcy> can anyone tell me whetehr i do or dont need to install a new kernel for amd 64 am2 processor?
[08:51] <RAMiN_> hey all!
[08:51] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, you know about the hidden dot-file directories, right?
[08:51] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, yes.
[08:51] <RAMiN_> guys, the installation is at 45%
[08:52] <RAMiN_> I think it worked!
[08:52] <sri999> i have realplayer.bin file
[08:52] <RAMiN_> thanks
[08:52] <r0yrul3z> RAMiN_, well keep going :) good luck with the rest of the installation
[08:52] <Axidus> AWOSdev: did you see the text?
[08:52] <RAMiN_> thanks
[08:52] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, OK, if you don't have a ~/.fonts, go ahead and create it, drop your .ttf files in there, they'll be picked up by apps next time you start them
[08:52] <nocti> AWOSDev, if it's *.ttf just copy them to ~/.fonts/*
[08:52] <noner> Hello,conner, I don't see any boot options at all. No grub menu. My case is different, isn't it?
[08:52] <sri999> error: cannot diplay location wht does it mean
[08:52] <RAMiN_> btw, guys do you know about that easy ubuntu stuff
[08:53] <afflux> variant: my internet lags, try searching yourself on packages.ubuntu.com, and set the "Distribution:" box to "edgy"
[08:53] <RAMiN_> the package that comes with all the ubuntu plugins
[08:53] <nocti> sri999, did you download the realplayer deb file? where is it?
[08:53] <RAMiN_> and .mp3 plugins for all the players
[08:53] <Madpilot> sri999, you do not need the .bin file - please read the links in the message you got from ubotu
[08:53] <RAMiN_> and all the codecs
[08:53] <variant> afflux: yeah i did, i am lookin in ml to see if its mentioned
[08:53] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: It's not a package.
[08:53] <variant> afflux: if your interest lags stop talkiing
[08:53] <RAMiN_> oh, what is it?
[08:54] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: A wiki page.
[08:54] <RAMiN_> oh, well, Is it helpful?
[08:54] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: Yes.
[08:54] <RAMiN_> sweet
[08:54] <Madpilot> RAMiN_, EasyUbuntu is slightly less likely to break stuff than some of the other scripts out there, but doing stuff manually is still the best way, & safest
[08:54] <conner> noner, do you know if you're using grub? Grub is the default in Ubuntu.
[08:54] <noner> Is there some less busy channel (say a regional one) where I can ask questions?
[08:54] <RAMiN_> oh okay
[08:54] <sri999> on the desktop
[08:54] <Arafangion> noner: Why not just ask here?
[08:54] <RAMiN_> but is the codecs good
[08:54] <afflux> following problem: im using KDE and GNOME applications, which both should output some sound. i got amarok to work without problems, now i started using kopete as my IM, and i tried some things, now amarok blocks the sound device, although i told it to use alsa. any ideas how to fix this?
[08:55] <RAMiN_> cause I have a lot of trouble playing my music on linux
[08:55] <Madpilot> noner, there are lots of regional Ubuntu channels - where are you from?
[08:55] <Arafangion> Someone ban thedcm, unless he's going to actually *stay* here, and NOT ping people or whatever.
[08:55] <Axidus> AWSOdev: i've sent you a request?
[08:55] <conner> noner, try #ubuntu-in
[08:55] <Madpilot> Arafangion, are you being PM spammed?
[08:55] <RAMiN_> is that india?
[08:55] <nocti> RAMiN_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:55] <noner> conner: I don't see a menu when the system boots. That is all I know about it.
[08:55] <conner> noner, although I'm not sure if it is active.
[08:55] <Arafangion> Madpilot: No.
[08:56] <RAMiN_> cool
[08:56] <conner> noner, when it boots, you might see a 1 second delay when you can hit "escape" to access the options.
[08:56] <Arafangion> Madpilot: However, not this time but the time before he PING'ed me.
[08:56] <Arafangion> Madpilot: And the last time he joined, it was for much less than one minute.
[08:56] <sri999> i have just downloaded vlcplayer.exe file
[08:56] <Arafangion> Madpilot: To me, it looks very much like a covert script.
[08:56] <sri999> how can i install it
[08:56] <Madpilot> Arafangion, meh... if it keeps being a problem, let me know
[08:57] <nocti> noner, go and let it boot then, then edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:57] <noner> conner, yes a menu appears then
[08:57] <RAMiN_> how about I just get realplayer
[08:57] <sri999> .exe file is on my desktop
[08:57] <Madpilot> sri999, .exe is a Windows thing, it won't work easily in Linux...
[08:57] <RAMiN_> even though, I dont know how to install it
[08:57] <noner> but it has no Windows XP listed among the items
[08:57] <RAMiN_> get WINE with that
[08:57] <nocti> sri999, *.exe files dont work on linux
[08:57] <RAMiN_> WINE
[08:57] <RAMiN_> in WINE, .exe's work
[08:57] <RAMiN_> only some
[08:57] <sri999> wht abt .bin file
[08:57] <nocti> RAMiN_, why use wine if you have realplayer for linux?
[08:58] <conner> noner, the #ubuntu-in channel does appear to be active. You might want to try that channel.
[08:58] <RAMiN_> I didnt say that
[08:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm getting rid of wine.
[08:58] <RAMiN_> i was helping someone else
[08:58] <foo> vncviewer -compresslevel 0 -quality 0 172.16.1.253 - why does the quality look the same if I leave out these options?
[08:58] <sambagirl> chao is seveas still associated with ubuntu?
[08:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> Wine is nice, I like running old programs but what's the point?
[08:58] <RAMiN_> I have trouble making .bin into  exectuable files
[08:58] <noner> conner: I have joined that channel
[08:58] <RAMiN_> everywehre they say
[08:58] <RAMiN_> chmod a+x
[08:58] <Madpilot> sri999, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats and the links off there for installation info for Linux
[08:58] <RAMiN_> but it doesnt work
[08:58] <Arafangion> sri999: Why not, you know, install vlc?
[08:58] <noner> conner: but no body has offered to help.
[08:59] <Madpilot> sambagirl, Seveas is still very active with Ubuntu
[08:59] <nocti> Arafangion, can vlc play .3gp?
[08:59] <Arafangion> nocti: What the heck is .3gp?
[08:59] <RAMiN_> dont know
[08:59] <LiraNuna> cellphone video
[08:59] <LiraNuna> VLC can play it
[08:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> I didn't even know what m4a was.
[08:59] <noner> conner: sorry to trouble you, you seem busy.
[08:59] <LiraNuna> apt-get install vlc
[08:59] <sambagirl> ahh ok madpilot so are you :)
[08:59] <conner> noner, once you have the boot options open, choose one of the "recovery" modes.
[08:59] <nocti> Arafangion, :) mobile phone video format
[08:59] <RAMiN_> this has got to be the most crowded IRC channel I have ever seen
[09:00] <LiraNuna> lol
[09:00] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: Haha.
[09:00] <nocti> Arafangion, only realplayer plays 3gp files in nix... i think
[09:00] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: Try #debian
[09:00] <crazy_penguin> Good morning! :)
[09:00] <RAMiN_> oh crap
[09:00] <noner> conner: what can I do then?
[09:00] <conner> noner, that will get you in as "single user mode". You can find the menu.lst at /boot/grub/
[09:00] <Madpilot> sambagirl, I'm still around, yeah
[09:00] <RAMiN_> that must be even more crowded
[09:00] <variant> RAMiN_: the #freenode chan had well over 1000 when lilo died
[09:00] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: And if you think that's crowded, try #gnome on gnome.org :)
[09:00] <RAMiN_> dang
[09:00] <variant> RAMiN_: debian only has 600 or so
[09:00] <conner> noner, once you're there, you should see similar items as what was on that web page.
[09:01] <RAMiN_> you guys know hak5?
[09:01] <RAMiN_> they have a lot of people on theirs as well
[09:01] <LiraNuna> #gnome only has 118 users
[09:01] <LiraNuna> this one has 860
[09:01] <RAMiN_> dang
[09:01] <LiraNuna> pwnd
[09:01] <noner> conner: yes
[09:02] <RAMiN_> totally
[09:02] <noner> conner: I mean I understand
[09:02] <RAMiN_> Fedora isnt as good as ubuntu
[09:02] <RAMiN_> guys, is ubuntu good with servers
[09:02] <Madpilot> Because this is a big channel, could people please move the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic - thanks
[09:02] <LiraNuna> fedora sucks
[09:02] <conner> noner, the difficult part is identifying what partition has your XP installation. It probably is not 0,0 as in the example there.
[09:02] <Arafangion> Hmm, looks like I got the server wrong.
[09:02] <RAMiN_> I am planning to run a small HTTP server
[09:03] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: I prefer Debian Stable for servers.
[09:03] <RAMiN_> and using apache and php and mysql
[09:03] <RAMiN_> oh okay, how many cd's does that use?
[09:03] <Madpilot> RAMiN_, the Ubuntu project's own servers all run Ubuntu, they seem to do just fine
[09:03] <index> hi , thr i have just installed Dapper , can someone point how to install AIGLX & Beryl ?
[09:03] <nocti> RAMiN_, ubuntu is too bleeding edge for me, but ymmv
[09:03] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: As many as you want.
[09:03] <aeroSoul> RAMiN_: download the server version of ubuntu...
[09:03] <RAMiN_> nooooooooo, that is all in linux shell
[09:03] <RAMiN_> i hate that
[09:03] <RAMiN_> its so hard
[09:03] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: Most people use a netinst CD for Debian, which is like, 100MB.
[09:03] <aeroSoul> hehe
[09:03] <noner> conner: it was in D drive under Win.
[09:03] <sambagirl> coolio madpilot
[09:03] <nocti> RAMiN_, install apache, msql, etc...
[09:03] <aeroSoul> RAMiN_: then install the standard version its ok
[09:03] <sri999> friends i want to play mp3 sonds in linux,how can i?
[09:04] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: For servers, you only need the console.
[09:04] <aeroSoul> it doesntneed much space
[09:04] <Madpilot> !mp3
[09:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:04] <conner> noner, if D drive was a different hard drive, you might want to try (hd1,0) there.
[09:04] <nocti> sri999, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:04] <RAMiN_> i suppose, but I like GUI's
[09:04] <siXy> ramin - get used to it. if you want to run a server a shell is all you need, and using it will definately not be the hardest thing you have to do
[09:04] <RAMiN_> they help me cause they are easy
[09:04] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: Whatever for?
[09:04] <CactusWiZaRd> sri999: install XMMS for example
[09:04] <noner> conner: it was just another partionion
[09:04] <Madpilot> RAMiN_, most servers don't have a GUI; most don't even have monitors plugged into them
[09:04] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: My server doesn't even have a monitor attached.
[09:04] <Armas> Alright, possibly an easy question: Anyone know how to change audio languages / subtitles on a file playing with a fresh install of mplayer?
[09:04] <sambagirl> does anyone know what a vpn does? i enabled vpn on the server and i distributed vpn apps to the peeps and they can connect but what are they suppoed to be connecting to?  i dont get it?
[09:04] <RAMiN_> okay
[09:05] <RAMiN_> so, how would I enter the command to start up a server for example
[09:05] <siXy> mine are all on a big kvm, but ssh works too.
[09:05] <Arafangion> RAMiN_: Infact, I've pulled the video card out of it.
[09:05] <nocti> Armas, right click the mplayer screen
[09:05] <RAMiN_> lol
[09:05] <conner> noner, okay, then try "fdisk -l" (that's a lower case L) to see what the partition numbers are.
[09:05] <RAMiN_> so, how do you do it
[09:05] <index> can someone tell  how to install AIGLX & Beryl in dapper ?
[09:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell RAMiN_ about apache
[09:05] <siXy> samabgirl - if you dont know what vpn is, you dont need it.
[09:05] <nocti> Armas, then go to the DVD menu, subtitles should be somewhere there
[09:05] <sambagirl> sixy yes i do
[09:05] <conner> noner, you should be able to edit the menu.lst to show the partition with XP.
[09:05] <Madpilot> RAMiN_, the bot just sent you a couple of URLs w/ basic server/apache info
[09:05] <Armas> nocti: unfortunately there isn't an option in the DVD menu for this file
[09:06] <sambagirl>  if it comes with it i want to use it :)
[09:06] <siXy> ramin thats not exactly a one line answer. there are lots of good books on the subject. happy reading :)
[09:06] <RAMiN_> yes, i saw it
[09:06] <sri999> how to install sound converter package
[09:06] <lufis> I'm interested in learning how to code. Where should I begin?
[09:06] <Armas> nocti: I'm 100% this has dual languages and and english subtitle however
[09:06] <sambagirl> so does it allow external users to access their desktops?
[09:06] <RAMiN_> ah man, okay,  i suppose I should read the books on linux shell commands and servers
[09:06] <siXy> lufis - choose a language (i reccomend c) then buy a book or two and start reading
[09:06] <nocti> Armas, hmm. doesnt the root menu of the dvd movie have options in it?
[09:06] <Madpilot> sri999, what do you mean by 'sound converters'?
[09:06] <Arafangion> sambagirl: It's basic networking.
[09:07] <Armas> nocti: It's a file, not a DVD - if that makes a difference. haha
[09:07] <RAMiN_> so, is lamp, just a one install server?
[09:07] <RAMiN_> that includes all those things?
[09:07] <aeroSoul> lufis: until you get a book search for "hello world" in google... you should find sources for beginners
[09:07] <Arafangion> sambagirl: "VPN" is marketing or PHB lingo for "A hacked up secure tunnel across an insecure network that really should've been designed correctly in the first place"
[09:07] <nocti> Armas, cute :) download a subtitle in the net, use vlc to play the movie and insert the subtitle
[09:07] <siXy> sambagirl - wireshark comes with ubuntu. you dont seem to have a burning urge to use that
[09:07] <davvs> when are the programs in the "system->preferences->Sessions->Startup programs" runned?
[09:07] <Madpilot> RAMiN_, there's a LAMP install option w/ the Ubuntu Server CD, yes
[09:07] <RAMiN_> cool
[09:07] <Arafangion> sambagirl: The rest of us just use ssh.
[09:07] <noner> conner:  I find it hard to follow the conversation due to rushing messages here. I think I will have to wait for a reply in the forum.
[09:07] <sri999> to convert mp3 files to other format compatible with ubuntu
[09:07] <Armas> nocti: well, here's the thing
[09:07] <lufis> aeroSoul, siXy: Thanks :)
[09:07] <index_0> how to install AIGLX & Beryl in dapper ?
[09:08] <RAMiN_> guys 97% install done
[09:08] <Armas> nocti: I know VLC will play it, and I can switch languages there
[09:08] <Madpilot> sri999, Ubuntu can read & play mp3, you know
[09:08] <RAMiN_> yay
[09:08] <conner> noner, how far did you get on that?
[09:08] <Armas> nocti: however VLC cuts out on sound here and there
[09:08] <Armas> nocti: so I decided to switch to mplayer to get rid of said problem on sound
[09:08] <RAMiN_> then do you have to add mp3 codecs
[09:08] <sambagirl> siXy i use ubuntu on a thinkpad but i use something different for the server and the worksations are all running various flavors of windows.
[09:08] <RAMiN_> for it to read those
[09:08] <Armas> nocti: however switching to mplayer, I've noticed I can't switch between included languages
[09:08] <nocti> Armas, ah but you want mplayer... haven't tried that problem yet, wait, did you google for it? (mplayer subtitle)
[09:08] <LiraNuna> mplayer was better if it had a better UI
[09:08] <sri999> using the default player?
[09:09] <Arafangion> sambagirl: Figure out what the heck you want, then use that.
[09:09] <lufis> sri999: You can play MP3s. Although Ogg Vorbis, the standard open format used by most Linux distros,. is actually superior to mp3
[09:09] <jo3y__> yay 4 u
[09:09] <Madpilot> sri999, yes, if you install the right codecs
[09:09] <Armas> nocti: I haven't tried google, I tried here instead haha
[09:09] <RAMiN_> .ogg has better quality is what you mean?
[09:09] <sambagirl> i know what i want arafangion and i want to know what vpn does.
[09:09] <Arafangion> sambagirl: Don't just arbituary pull three letters out of the air, 'v', 'p', 'n', and decide you need whatever combination it needs.
[09:09] <noner> conner, the system with the problem is not currently with me.
[09:09] <Madpilot> sri999, you've been given the RestrictedFormats URL several times - please take the time to read that page over
[09:09] <Arafangion> sambagirl: Ok, let's begin with: What do you want?
[09:09] <siXy> vpn is for connecting two lans in different locations. eg two offices in different cities.
[09:10] <CactusWiZaRd> sri999: Totem doesn't play mp3's, so VLC or XMMS are better options IMO
[09:10] <siXy> you do _not_ need it.
[09:10] <sambagirl> i want my users to be able to access their desktops from remote locations and run apps on their desktops like they were running like carbon copy or something like that.
[09:10] <noner> conner: just tell me one more thing. do we type commands at the run box as in windows?
[09:10] <sri999> error: there ar no decoders to handle the stream' is the message displayed when i tried to pplay mp3 using totem
[09:10] <nocti> Armas, try google first, im not sure if i have encountered that yet with mplayer
[09:10] <siXy> smabagirl - vnc
[09:10] <RAMiN_> GUYS, I SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED UBUNTU
[09:10] <Arafangion> siXy: That's probably the "correct" definition, but increasonly, I see vpn used to mean little more than just a vnc connection.
[09:10] <RAMiN_> FINALLY
[09:10] <LiraNuna> RAMiN_, \o/
[09:10] <Armas> nocti: I guess basically I'm trying to figure out how to change audio tracks with files in mplayer
[09:10] <LiraNuna> congrads
[09:10] <RAMiN_> YAY
[09:10] <Arafangion> siXy: Even though vnc is NOT a vpn.
[09:10] <RAMiN_> THANKS EVERYONE FOR HELPING ME
[09:10] <RAMiN_> I HAVE TO RESTART NOW
[09:11] <CactusWiZaRd> sri999: it doesn't play them, install XMMS or VLC instead
[09:11] <Armas> nocti: in VLC it's straight foward, you just hit the audio menu and switch tracks
[09:11] <RAMiN_> GOODBYE EVERYONE
[09:11] <Arafangion> sambagirl: Ok, that's got absolutely nothing to do with a vpn.
[09:11] <sambagirl> this is a virtual private network not a virtual prvate conection.
[09:11] <conner> noner, yes, typing the commands is the same as in Windows.
[09:11] <Madpilot> RAMiN_, ease up on the CAPS LOCK, thanks
[09:11] <nocti> Armas, but if it's just one movie file (.avi?) how can you choose tracks? what format is it in?
[09:11] <siXy> afraf - stupid poeple say all sorts of things. i know a lady who persists in referring to her windows desktop as "the local server"
[09:11] <RAMiN_> LOL
[09:11] <sambagirl> sure it does arafangion it is a private network and it is virtual vpn = virtual private network, no?
[09:11] <Arafangion> sambagirl: Define private.
[09:11] <Madpilot> sri999, mp3 streams should be playable by Totem, with the right codecs - again, you need to read that webpage!
[09:12] <sambagirl> employees exclusively
[09:12] <Arafangion> sambagirl: For me, private means "something I don't want other people to see".
[09:12] <Armas> nocti: some movie file formats can contain several langues, this one is mkv
[09:12] <Armas> languages*
[09:12] <Arafangion> sambagirl: Therefore, vnc is not a vpn.
[09:12] <siXy> sambagirl - a basic understanding of networking would get you far. vnc != a vpn
[09:12] <noner> conner: Why can't have audio and video on the installed ubuntu? I tried to install the sound drivers, but ubuntu doesnt recognise the exe files.
[09:12] <nocti> Armas, alas i haven't done that yet. sorry dude.
[09:12] <Armas> nocti: no problem
[09:12] <siXy> vnc is all  you need.
[09:12] <Arafangion> sambagirl: ssh -XC is a little better, but only works on properly configured linux/unix systems, though it's not a proper vpn.
[09:12] <lufis> Noner: Exe's are Windows... Linux is a different system
[09:12] <conner> noner, Ubuntu is completely different from Windows. The .exe files will not work on Ubuntu. :(
[09:13] <sambagirl> but sixy it comes with a vnp app and it is zirux os the enterprise version.
[09:13] <Arafangion> sambagirl: A vpn, on the other hand, is an incrypted "virtual" network that spans several non-secure networks.
[09:13] <conner> noner, lots of hardware is already supported by Ubuntu "out of the box", but some sound cards have problems.
[09:13] <Armas> I will say, mplayer is pretty godlike
[09:13] <Arafangion> *encrypted
[09:13] <Armas> Runs very well
[09:13] <sambagirl> ok well that is what i want because in my opinion all networks are insecure other then mine so that would be what i wanted then a vpn.
[09:14] <sambagirl> fine
[09:14] <sambagirl> fine fine fine
[09:14] <sambagirl> i will go ask in normal linux i guess. thanks anyway
[09:14] <Armas> VLC seemed to have a problem with mkv playback on some of my files
[09:14] <Armas> very fuzzy video playback
[09:15] <Arafangion> sambagirl: The problem you have is you're trying to ask how to do something with "vpn", and are refusing to realise that a "vpn" is completely different than what you expect.
[09:15] <Arafangion> sambagirl: btw, for a vpn, I like ipsec.
[09:15] <noner> conner: you can't probably use the linux driver in the driver cd?
[09:15] <Arafangion> sambagirl: pptp is a popular windows-compatible vpn as well.
[09:15] <conner> noner, I did not understand the question.
[09:15] <noner> conner: mine is msi motherboad
[09:16] <Arafangion> sambagirl: My university uses pptp, btw.
[09:16] <lufis> noner: Is some of your hardware not working?
[09:16] <sambagirl> well arafangion it came with this other vpn application and i really want to stick with everything that is associated with it. that is the only reason arafangion and sixy.
[09:16] <conner> noner, the motherboard probably uses one of the standard ATA interfaces for the CD Drive. So Ubuntu should work with that.
[09:16] <noner> the dirver cd that came with my motherboard has drivers for linux as well.
[09:16] <Arafangion> sambagirl: If you want to access the internet at my university, from your own laptop, you must first connect to the wireless network, which is public.
[09:17] <sambagirl> ok
[09:17] <sambagirl> then you run the vpn?
[09:17] <conner> noner, does their webpage have installation instructions for those? Many times you have to match the driver with the kernel version of the Linux distribution you are installing.
[09:17] <conner> noner, it is a bit more complicated than Windows in that regard.
[09:17] <Arafangion> sambagirl: You then setup a vpn to some public server, in our case 'student.vpnwifi', then we effectively have network access.
[09:17] <siXy> sambagirl - for what i belive you are trying to do you want a road-warrior vpn, but vnc (WHICH COMES WITH LINUX) will suit you much better
[09:18] <sambagirl> ok
[09:18] <sambagirl> brb
[09:18] <Arafangion> sambagirl: It does not by itself allow us to access windows desktops, we usually walk to building 11 for that.
[09:18] <lufis> Noner: Is there anything non-standard about your motherboard that would require a custom driver?
[09:18] <Arafangion> sambagirl: But, you could "export" the desktop, with a program called vnc, and then access that using the same program on your laptop or other system, using any network access, which could be a vpn.
[09:19] <noner> conner: I will have to check about the vendor's instructions.
[09:19] <lufis> Noner: If everything is working correctly, I wouldn't worry about it. :D
[09:20] <noner> lufis: it uses some raid or so, I think
[09:20] <conner> noner, Ubuntu may have all the drivers for your motherboard. Try installing just Ubunut to see what works and what does not.
[09:20] <billfur> if I setup iptables to have a log target, it will show up in /var/messages, right?
[09:21] <conner> noner, there is also the option of an Ubuntu "Live CD" which you can run without installing anything to see what is supported and what is not.
[09:21] <Arafangion> billfur: Depends on how you've setup syslog.
[09:21] <noner> conner: Ubunut is?
[09:21] <billfur> Arafangion, on a default syslog config with iptables logging to warning
[09:21] <conner> noner, Sorry, my spelling is bad. I meant "Ubuntu".
[09:22] <noner> conner: I should have used live cd first.
[09:23] <conner> noner, I usually recommend the Live CD first, but most new users have not heard of them. :(
[09:23] <sri999> how to convert mp3 to oggvorbis
[09:23] <sri999> ?
[09:24] <lufis> sri999: You don't have to
[09:24] <noner> conner: sheer ignorance on my part.
[09:24] <sambagirl> ahh ok well let me go home and try chao!
[09:24] <sambagirl> thanks
[09:24] <conner> noner, if you are starting from a Windows environment it is to be understood. The Live CD concept does not really exist for Windows.
[09:24] <noner> So I dont have to download grub afterall? It is with Ubuntu?
[09:24] <lufis> sri999: Just follow the instructions on installing the MP3 decoder on the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[09:25] <Arafangion> conner: It does exist.
[09:25] <Arafangion> conner: But I think you have to be a distributor to get the live cd.
[09:25] <conner> noner, what Linux distribution are you installing? If it is Ubuntu, grub is already installed.
[09:25] <Arafangion> conner: Additionally, there is also BartPE, which is apparently similar.
[09:25] <conner> Arafangion, there is Bart's PE disk. I think that's the name of it.
[09:25] <noner> conner: yes, ubuntu I have installed
[09:25] <troy_> I cant get my sound working, and my wireless network adaptor
[09:26] <noner> conner: When I try to play a vid cd I get the error message of some missing decoder.
[09:26] <troy_> Oh and Hi ppl
[09:26] <conner> noner, then grub should be installed already. So it is just a matter of getting the grub menu to recognize the XP partition.
[09:26] <lufis> troy_: Is sound not working at all or only in some programs? Do you hear start-up sounds?
[09:26] <troy_> oh yeah me too no video
[09:26] <Arafangion> conner: I'm quite sure there is an actual MS sanctioned live CD, it's just nearly impossible to find info about it.
[09:26] <troy_> no sound installed acording to volume control
[09:27] <troy_> oh and how do you chage the resoulation
[09:27] <omegacat> hi, i tried to update using the package manager, just let it do what it asked to, and it gave me an error and told me to run "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix it, which i did and it doesn't work. Also firefox is broken now.
[09:27] <Arafangion> omegacat: What did you do?
[09:27] <conner> noner, can you check in with us again when you have that machine available? There are many options with playing DVD's.
[09:27] <lufis> troy: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and have your monitor specs handy
[09:27] <Arafangion> omegacat: You updated, when? What distro? What version?
[09:27] <omegacat> the red X in the top left told me to install updates so i did
[09:27] <conner> noner, Ubuntu does not ship with DVD capability because of licensing issues.
[09:28] <omegacat> Arafangion: yes, just now dapper 64
[09:28] <noner> conner: yes, I will check in here again as I work on it.
[09:28] <noner> conner: I got my cd mailed a year back, it may need much updation ?
[09:28] <troy_> is there a way to change res in the GUI
[09:28] <conner> noner, sorry about that, but there are so many variables with playing DVD's.
[09:28] <lufis> troy_: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[09:29] <Arafangion> omegacat: Show us what you mean by "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix it, which i did and it doesn't work.
[09:29] <troy_> thanks
[09:29] <Arafangion> omegacat: Use the pastebin
[09:29] <omegacat> Arafangion: it was the install straight from what was on the CD before I ran the update, except for some stuff that i did earlier to fix my wifi
[09:29] <omegacat> Arafangion ok, um
[09:29] <omegacat> Arafangion i can't get to firefox on that machine it is broke 2
[09:29] <troy_> ahh better
[09:29] <omegacat> *broken
[09:29] <lufis> troy_: But sometimes values won't be listed when the video card actually supports them. If that's the case google your monitor manufacturer and model number and find its specs and reconfigure xorg
[09:30] <Arafangion> Do you have lynx?
[09:30] <conner> noner, can you go into "update manager" from the "System" menu on the toolbar?
[09:30] <omegacat> i don't know
[09:30] <omegacat> and i can't apt-get anything because it is broken now
[09:30] <Arafangion> omegacat: Hmm, I don't have lynx either, so you probably don't.
[09:30] <conner> noner, sorry, I meant "System", then "Administration" then "update manager".
[09:30] <omegacat> no i don
[09:30] <omegacat> t
[09:30] <omegacat> hold on
[09:31] <noner> conner: I found that option I remember.
[09:31] <omegacat> i can irssi and paste it to me in /msg and *then* pastebin it
[09:31] <troy_> Im told this version is meant to detect my belkin wireless network adator
[09:31] <conner> noner, if you use "update manager", your system should be up to date.
[09:31] <variant> ahh, much better! /me just colorised the terminal
[09:31] <noner> noner: I won't steal more of yoru time.
[09:31] <adam> can some1 provide me with a link to a site explaining how to tweak ubuntu for faster boot up?
[09:32] <Arafangion> omegacat: Ok. :)
[09:32] <variant> i really wish there was splash of color by default in ubuntu.. easy to fix though
[09:32] <noner> noner: conner: you took much trouble helping me. I thank you very much. and look for forward to further help from you. thanks again.
[09:32] <conner> noner, no problem. I'm just waiting for friends to show up
[09:32] <Arafangion> variant: There's three colours!
[09:32] <variant> adam: install it on a raid.. that would speed it up!
[09:32] <variant> Arafangion: what do youmean?
[09:32] <noner> conner: you are a dev probabaly?
[09:32] <Arafangion> variant: White, Yellow, and Brown.
[09:32] <troy_> how do I get unbuntu setup for sound ?
[09:32] <troy_> i have a old sb16 card
[09:32] <Arafangion> variant: Lots and lots of brown.
[09:32] <variant> Arafangion: I am talking about hte default command prompt
[09:32] <adam> variant: I don't have raid
[09:33] <Arafangion> variant: Ahh, well, there's white ;)
[09:33] <Arafangion> variant: Also, you could alias lsc='ls -color'
[09:33] <variant> Arafangion: mine is nice green/blue for user and red/cyan for root
[09:33] <variant> Arafangion: yeah i have colorised ls too
[09:33] <Arafangion> --color, rather.
[09:34] <Arafangion> variant: I don't actually like to colour-code thigns that way.
[09:34] <Arafangion> variant: Because if you manage many machines, and one system is inconsistent, you can easily shut down the wrong server.
[09:34] <noner> dev is a correct abbreviaion for developer, isnt it?
[09:34] <troy_> where can i found good info for people who are new to linux
[09:34] <Arafangion> noner: Depends on the context.
[09:34] <variant> Arafangion: I have alot of terminals from different hosts open, i have the important ones color coded differently so i dont acidentaly type halt in the wrong one :)
[09:35] <troy_> every program i download I have to compile it or some crap where is the program in ubuntu for compile
[09:35] <Arafangion> variant: I'm just a screen person - so I lable my windows. :)
[09:35] <troy_> i download a compile but had to compile that !!!!
[09:36] <Arafangion> troy_: You're not making sense.
[09:36] <variant> Arafangion: i do too
[09:36] <omegacat> Arafangion http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25379/
[09:36] <afflux> troy_: the gnu c compiler is a package, name should be g++
[09:36] <Armas> hmm, I can turn subtitles on through terminal
[09:36] <variant> afflux: your thinking of build-essential
[09:36] <variant> troy_: apt-get install build-essential
[09:37] <troy_> how do I install and run programs ??
[09:37] <variant> troy_: then if you want ot download source code and compile it you can
[09:37] <afflux> variant: oh, didnt knew that gcc is a dependency of build-essential
[09:37] <variant> troy_: sudo apt-get install programname
[09:37] <troy_> what
[09:37] <variant> afflux: well, you cant compile much without gcc :)
[09:37] <HeavyThinker_> troy_: or System menu -> Administration -> Synaptic
[09:37] <afflux> variant: right ^^
[09:37] <Arafangion> omegacat: This is not good.
[09:38] <variant> troy_: to install programs in ubuntu you just type apt-get install and then the name of hte program. alternativly you can use synaptic (its in the system menu) to choose what you want to install and click go
[09:38] <troy_> do I need to install some package found under synaptic
[09:38] <omegacat> Arafangion the only things i told it not to update were open-office things and xserver things, earlier i installed build-essential, bcm43xx-fwcutter, another broadcom thing the name of which i forgot
[09:38] <variant> troy_: what do you want to install?
[09:38] <Arafangion> omegacat: Anything outside of ubuntu's package repositories?
[09:39] <omegacat> Arafangion only the broadcom thing
[09:39] <troy_> linux based programs download from the net
[09:39] <variant> troy_: for example?
[09:39] <variant> troy_: the package manager will download the programs for you.. you just tell it what you want
[09:40] <variant> troy_: name one program you want to install
[09:40] <Arafangion> omegacat: What is your current kernel? (uname -a)
[09:40] <troy_> linux version of virtualdub
[09:40] <troy_> a ps2 network client
[09:41] <Arafangion> Trae: ps2 being, playstation 2?
[09:41] <troy_> yes sorry
[09:41] <afflux> troy_: give us the name.
[09:41] <omegacat> Linux cthulhu 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:45:47 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:42] <afflux> btw. i guess in case of virtualdub you really gonna need to compile yourself, cause there is no package
[09:42] <troy_> i forget the proper name atm
[09:42] <troy_> yes install non package stuff
[09:42] <Arafangion> omegacat: Try typing dpkg -r linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[09:42] <troy_> so if its not in the package it has to be compiled
[09:42] <afflux> troy_: i see
[09:43] <variant> troy_: looks like virtual dub only has source code for linux (no pre build package) so you will have to compile the source..
[09:43] <afflux> troy_: did you install the build-essential package?
[09:43] <afflux> variant: thats what i just said :)
[09:43] <troy_> there is a linux version
[09:43] <Arafangion> variant: I can't even find source code for linux, it looks like it only exists for windows.
[09:43] <variant> troy_: run in  a terminal: apt-get install build-essential
[09:43] <troy_> avery the maker hates linux
[09:43] <variant> troy_: then download the source code of virtual dub
[09:43] <troy_> but others have ported it
[09:44] <Arafangion> troy_: Then you may be able to compile theres, if it is a good port.
[09:44] <troy_> where can you bring up the list of downloaded programs
[09:44] <variant> Arafangion: so it does
[09:44] <Arafangion> troy_: dpkg --get-selections
[09:44] <omegacat> Arafangion # dpkg -r linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[09:44] <troy_> i downloaded it just before but dont know where it is on my system
[09:44] <omegacat> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic which isn't installed.
[09:44] <variant> troy_: you might want to try "lives" linux video editor
[09:44] <Arafangion> omegacat: Ok, good.
[09:44] <troy_> k
[09:44] <omegacat> it is?
[09:45] <variant> troy_: your home directory probably
[09:45] <variant> troy_: type ls at the command prompt
[09:45] <variant> troy_: if its not there then type ls Desktop
[09:45] <troy_> what u want me to do
[09:45] <phoenixx> does anyone know what file do you use in kubuntu to specify how eth0 grabs it's default gateway and IP address and such?
[09:46] <phoenixx> *ubuntu
[09:47] <ShadeT> phoenixx, /etc/network/interfaces
[09:47] <omegacat> Arafangion should i try apt-get install -f again?
[09:47] <troy_> how do i get to the command prompt
[09:48] <afflux> troy_: do you use gnome or kde?
[09:48] <troy_> gnome I think
[09:48] <afflux> so press alt+f2 and enter gnome-terminal
[09:48] <ardchoille> On a new install I always do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and it seems to work. I see others doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" (adding -phigh), what does that do?
[09:49] <ShadeT> Oh nice.  Been using gnome for a while and haven't known that hot-key
[09:49] <LeonWP> hi
[09:49] <CaptainMorgan> is it possible to convert to Ubuntu after Ive been running Kubuntu, without doing a system reinstall? kinda sick of KDE... after 3 months
[09:49] <LeonWP> is there a howto to bootstrap ubuntu?
[09:49] <LeonWP> anywhere in the deepness of the web? :O)
[09:49] <LeonWP> er, depth
[09:50] <Arafangion> omegacat: dpkg --get-selections > sels && edit that file, change the line of the problematic package to 'deinstall', then type cat sels | sudo dpkg --set-selections then type sudo dselect install
[09:50] <troy_> ok im in terminal
[09:50] <sri999> can anyone tell how to convert mp3 tp oggvorbis
[09:50] <sri999> to
[09:51] <LeonWP> mp32ogg
[09:51] <omegacat> Arafangion the linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic file?
[09:51] <omegacat> ooooh
[09:52] <troy_> when i installed ubuntu it said there where alot of updates (should I install them)
[09:52] <LeonWP> so does anyone know such a manual?
[09:52] <omegacat> wait, nm, i think i see what you mean
[09:52] <omegacat> ok, let me try
[09:52] <LeonWP> troy_, yes, install them
[09:52] <troy_> does it download them
[09:52] <LeonWP> yes
[09:52] <troy_> then i dont want to
[09:52] <LeonWP> :)
[09:53] <troy_> will it fix my sound and USB network adaptor
[09:53] <LeonWP> dunno.
[09:53] <troy_> or do i have to use the windows wrapper
[09:53] <phoenixx> ShadeT, do you know how to write it properly?  I have never written this kind of file before
[09:54] <LeonWP> well, so does anyone know a bootstrap manual now? \o/
[09:54] <omegacat> Arafangion i want to change the line for the linux-image though, right? that is the one i am having a problem with?
[09:55] <Arafangion> omegacat: I'm actually thinking it might be better to load: sudo aptitude
[09:55] <ShadeT> phoenixx, man interfaces
[09:55] <ShadeT> It explains it pretty well
[09:55] <Arafangion> omegacat: And mark the packages as being on hold, by searching for it using '/', then hitting = on the respective packages
[09:55] <omegacat> not edit the file?
[09:55] <troy_> anyone know how to get hardware working in linux eg soundcard
[09:55] <omegacat> ok
[09:55] <ShadeT> You will be doing a static route instead of dhcp
[09:56] <Madpilot> troy_, sound generally works out of the box... but if it doesn't it can be awkward to track down.
[09:56] <LeonWP> troy_, see wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <Arafangion> omegacat: SOrry, I'm not really thinking.  I haven't actually personmally had this problem.
[09:56] <Madpilot> troy_, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:56] <troy_> k
[09:56] <omegacat> Arafangion np, i soooooo appreciate the help
[09:56] <LeonWP> So I'm looing for this bootstrap manual right.
[09:57] <troy_> yeah ive got an old SB16
[09:57] <Madpilot> LeonWP, just so you know, the Ubuntu help wiki is now help.ubuntu.com/community - wiki.u.c has gone back to being just the development & groups pages
[09:57] <LeonWP> oh ok
[09:57] <ShadeT> phoenixx, if you do not want to edit a file you can go to...  If gnome, System - > Adminstration -> Networking.  Then select your eth0 device to settings you desire.
[09:58] <Arafangion> omegacat: Basically, the problem is occuring because the package system is in conflict with whatever the heck happened with the broadcom source installation.
[09:58] <LeonWP> So noone knows such a stupid bootstrap man? >:o)
[09:58] <troy_> where is the compiler in linux ge make (BLA BLA BLA)
[09:59] <omegacat> ok
[09:59] <variant> troy_: what are you talking about?
[09:59] <omegacat> i have marked that package with an h  now?
[09:59] <Arafangion> omegacat: The dpkg thing should fix it, but I've noticed that despite me putting my kernel on hold, apt-get upgrade STILL tries to upgrade it, as does dselect, so I'm a bit confused myself.
[09:59] <variant> troy_: did you install build-essential?
[09:59] <troy_> to compile source code
[10:00] <variant> troy_: did you install build-essential?
[10:00] <troy_> is that the pakage
[10:00] <variant> troy_: did you install build-essential?
[10:00] <fabsmad> I've used Boot-up Manager to disable hotkey-setup (I have a laptop). But in this way I can't use "Alt Gr" hotkey...I've done a mistake. The problem is that now I'm not able to start again that service. What can I do? Thanks
[10:00] <troy_> no I guess not
[10:00] <troy_> doing so now
[10:00] <omegacat> Arafangion now should i run this or dosomething?
[10:00] <variant> troy_: we have told you do it like 50 times since you first asked the question
[10:00] <variant> troy_: so excuse my frustration :)
[10:00] <omegacat> (sry, i have never used aptitude before)
[10:01] <troy_> sorry guys
[10:01] <Arafangion> omegacat: I don't like aptitude, but it's apparently better than apt-get.
[10:01] <troy_> i must have missed alot of your messages
[10:02] <Arafangion> omegacat: Ok, it _is_ better than apt-get :)
[10:02] <Arafangion> omegacat: hit 'g' to go and upgrade, it should show you a summary, and you can hit it again to actually perform the upgrade.
[10:02] <factotum> wow flashback!! Just got done setting up Neverwinter Nights hehe, runs better than on my old xp setup lol
[10:03] <fabsmad> How can I tell my laptop to start hotkey-setup while booting?
[10:03] <Lam_> how do i shutdown the computer via terminal?
[10:03] <Arafangion> omegacat: And it respects your choice to place some packages on hold, to forbid various versions, etc.
[10:03] <ShadeT> aptitude can be used as apt-get...  aptitude install build-essential for example
[10:03] <Arafangion> Lam_: shtudown -r now
[10:03] <factotum> Lam_: shutdown -h now
[10:03] <variant> Lam_: or "halt" but shutdown is better
[10:03] <factotum> -r reboots it
[10:03] <fabsmad> Lam_: sudo halt
[10:03] <variant> Lam_: or just reboot..
[10:03] <sri999> how to got command line
[10:03] <Arafangion> ShadeT: Except it also marks dependencies that build-essential needs, and marks them as "auto", so you can work out which packages you no-longer need if you remove build-essential.
[10:03] <sri999> canany one pls guide
[10:03] <factotum> ohyeah heh heh halt works too
[10:03] <Lam_> Arafangion, variant, fabsmad: thanks
[10:04] <ShadeT> Or reboot
[10:04] <omegacat> Arafangion i ran it and it gave me some errors but i didn't really see them because then it put me back in the interface
[10:04] <Arafangion> ShadeT: And it respsects the dpkg selections, and it realises that you don't want version X, because that's what you told iT!
[10:04] <shriphani> sri999, applications -----> acceories ---------> terminal
[10:04] <omegacat> Arafangion ok i found them
[10:04] <shriphani> accessories ^
[10:04] <factotum> did they say they wanted to shutdown or reboot, cant remember
[10:04] <Arafangion> omegacat: What did you find?
[10:05] <factotum> so, how can i convince my girlfriend to name our daughter Optimus-Prime?
[10:05] <fabsmad> Does anybody know how to start a service while booting? init.d service start....I can't remember
[10:05] <ShadeT> Arafangion, Not saying which one is better than the other.  Just replying stating that the syntax is simliar to apt-get.
[10:06] <Arafangion> ShadeT: It can be similar, but try the interactive interface.
[10:06] <ShadeT> Yea, I don't like aptitude for the UI.  I actually like dselect for package management UI
[10:06] <omegacat> Arafangion I will pastebin it, there is a bunch of stuff
[10:06] <zcat[1] > update-rc.d (8)      - install and remove System-V style init script links
[10:07] <Arafangion> ShadeT: I can't figure out head nor tail of dselect. :(
[10:07] <CaptainMorgan> is it possible to convert to Ubuntu after Ive been running Kubuntu, without doing a system reinstall? kinda sick of KDE... after 3 months
[10:07] <troy_> does build ess compile source code ?
[10:08] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: You could probably try: apt-get install gnome
[10:08] <zcat[1] > CaptainMorgan: sudo apt-get remove kde ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should work
[10:08] <ShadeT> I used it in debian, so probably easier for me, since I know the interface from previously.
[10:08] <CaptainMorgan> awesome, thanks
[10:08] <troy_> does build ess compile source code ?
[10:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> what's the difference between kde and gnome really?
[10:08] <Arafangion> ShadeT: I am also used to debian, but in debian, I'm used to staying up-to-date, in Stable, and I fix any issues as they arise.
[10:09] <zcat[1] > ubuntu-desktop is gnome and all the useful desktop stuff...
[10:09] <CaptainMorgan> Sktfeelsdapper, appearance and speed
[10:09] <omegacat> Arafangion i commented out the repository i used for the broadcom thing, too
[10:09] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: One is called KDE, and the other is called Gnome.
[10:09] <Asc> Could somebody recommend a very-easy-to-use http server?
[10:09] <Arafangion> Asc: Define "easy to use".
[10:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> I see alot of kde.
[10:09] <troy_> because its description makes me wonder
[10:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> References.
[10:09] <CorpseFeeder> Someone here helped me once before getting this WordBiz scrabble to run. I can't remember how to make it work. I am getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25380/ Somone please tell me what it is I need to install to avoid this error.
[10:10] <CaptainMorgan> Sktfeelsdapper, it gets old quick... imo
[10:10] <Asc> Arafangion: I tried to use Apache on windows once, and couldn't figure out how to make it work.  So, easier than Apache.
[10:10] <zcat[1] > Asc: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-lamp ;; then drop your html/php4 into /var/www
[10:10] <troy_> aww heck
[10:10] <Arafangion> Asc: Easier than: "apt-get install apache", and dump your fiels into /var/www ?
[10:10] <sri999> how to execute .bin file
[10:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> What gets old?
[10:10] <Arafangion> Asc: Remember that linux is _made_ for apache.
[10:10] <Sktfeelsdapper> References to kde?
[10:11] <troy_> what is a .exe in linux
[10:11] <Asc> Hum.  Sounds simple enough.
[10:11] <omegacat> Arafangion http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25381/
[10:11] <HedgeMage> troy_: useless
[10:11] <factotum> troy maybe a .sh
[10:11] <zcat[1] > troy_: something you could run in wine, perhaps?
[10:11] <factotum> or anything you can ./
[10:11] <hantu> .exe can be anything :o
[10:11] <Arafangion> omegacat: Tell aptitude to not install that.
[10:12] <omegacat> ok
[10:12] <troy_> what you mean maybe in windows/dos . exe and com in linux it is .......
[10:12] <Arafangion> omegacat: First time you hit 'g', navigate to the line with that package, and press '-', to remove or not install it
[10:12] <ramin> hello everyone, I have a few questions
[10:12] <sri999> can any one tell how to execute .bin file
[10:12] <zcat[1] > sri999: chmod +x foo.bin ; ./foo.bin
[10:12] <ardchoille> troy_: in windows, an .exe. is an executale file.. in Linux it is known as a binary
[10:13] <Arafangion> troy_: Hmm, I suppose the only answer I can say is "A file that has the executable bit set is an .exe on linux"
[10:13] <ramin> how do I run an exe in ubuntu
[10:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> my last fm isn't working on firefox for some reason.
[10:13] <zcat[1] > sri999: although I would be inclined to say find a package, don't use binary installers. Ever.
[10:13] <ramin> what command do i type in terminal
[10:13] <factotum> an .exe is useless on linux unless you have something like WINE
[10:13] <ardchoille> ramin: You need to use wine or some such
[10:13] <ramin> i have
[10:13] <ramin> I have it installed
[10:13] <ramin> what command do i use
[10:13] <wickedpuppy> Arafangion, not true .... shell script can be +x but not a binary file
[10:13] <troy_> umm ok have a directory with a heap of files and crap which TYPE of file would I click to lauch the program
[10:14] <zcat[1] > wine foo.exe
[10:14] <Zaggynl> I'm about to updated wine, lets say I want to rollback to the older version for whatever reason, how would I do so?
[10:14] <ramin> wine <location of program> ?
[10:14] <Arafangion> troy_: Technically, a .exe on windows is a PC-COFF file, though lately with .NET and all that it's becoming very obscure.
[10:14] <Maf54> guys i'm having a problem with my laptop, I think someone hacked it and stole my chatlogs
[10:14] <factotum> well, you could poke it with a stick or something i suppose, otherwise nothing much
[10:14] <Arafangion> wickedpuppy: Can a shell script be executed, ie, a ".exe"?
[10:14] <zcat[1] > rolf Maf54 ..
[10:14] <factotum> oooohhh chatlogs
[10:14] <zcat[1] > Maf54: does that turn you on?
[10:14] <factotum> thats harsh man, really harsh
[10:14] <shriphani> heh zcat[1] 
[10:15] <wickedpuppy> shell script can be executed of course .... chmod +x file.sh
[10:15] <ramin> so, do i type wine, and then the location and file name?
[10:15] <wickedpuppy> then ./file.sh
[10:15] <Arafangion> troy_: Which directory are you talking about? Which program do you want?
[10:15] <CorpseFeeder> anyone want to help with my problem I get here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25380/
[10:15] <Arafangion> troy_: If it's a graphical program, you could... double-click it?
[10:15] <CaptainMorgan> that's a pretty skillfull attempt... 'hacking' chatlogs
[10:15] <troy_> in theory
[10:15] <factotum> just read some debian security docs or something
[10:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do you check for alternatives for java again?
[10:15] <hume> i need a firewall configurator that can be run remotely, via ssh - the firewall is intended for simple operation, just closing all ports except http and ssh. any suggestions on how to do it?
[10:15] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: update-alternatives
[10:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> apt updates-alternatives?
[10:16] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: It's a program that manages the alternatives.
[10:16] <lsproc> I am trying to run a perl script on my ubuntu web server, but it just gives HTTP 403 errors
[10:16] <troy_> should i install build-ess for compiling source code
[10:17] <lsproc> yes
[10:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> But how do I get to the java update?
[10:17] <ramin> so, how would you run and exe on your desktop with wine in terminal, wat would you type in for example
[10:17] <Zaggynl> !rollback
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rollback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <troy_> I dont want to download crap
[10:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> What's the exact command?
[10:17] <Arafangion> troy_: Install the damn package.
[10:17] <factotum> troy_: yep, you should
[10:17] <omegacat> Arafangion ok, i hit - for that package, and then it tells 2 packages depend on it, but they don't show up on my g list
[10:17] <lsproc> troy_: build-ess will give you the minimum requirements to build
[10:17] <factotum> ive lost 5 pounds since ive installed it, and you can too!!
[10:17] <Arafangion> omegacat: Does it say which 2 packages depend on it?
[10:17] <Arafangion> lsproc: We've been over this.
[10:17] <CorpseFeeder> I need to install something to make this java scrabble game work... but I can't remember what that is. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25380/
[10:17] <Arafangion> lsproc: Only 100 times now.
[10:18] <troy_> ok
[10:18] <Arafangion> troy_: Type: "sudo apt-get install build-essential", without the quotations in the terminal.
[10:18] <lsproc> Arfanion: ?
[10:18] <troy_> then after i build how to I run a program
[10:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Updates? Anyone?
[10:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> I need to know the exact command.
[10:18] <ramin> so, how would you run an exe on your desktop with wine in terminal, wat would you type in for example
[10:18] <troy_> why when i can use the GUI oackage manager
[10:18] <Arafangion> troy_: You could try typing the name, and then hitting enter?
[10:18] <factotum> troy_: keep the cart behind the horse
[10:18] <omegacat> Arafangion yes, and i hit g again, and it tells me some packages were broken and have been fixed and install the one i just deslected and that my score is -19, and only gives me an ok option
[10:19] <wickedpuppy> ramin, cd Desktop ; wine program.exe ?
[10:19] <zcat[1] > ramin: "Wine Desktop/foo.exe"
[10:19] <zcat[1] > or that..
[10:19] <Arafangion> omegacat: You have package hell.
[10:19] <troy_> cart behind the horse ?
[10:19] <wickedpuppy> both will do
[10:19] <ramin> serious oh okay
[10:19] <zcat[1] > and wine not Wine sorry :)
[10:19] <omegacat> Arafangion so i hit ok and it reselects it
[10:19] <omegacat> Arafangion it figures. linux hates me.
[10:19] <Arafangion> omegacat: Find the packages that it depends on, and see if you can remove them.
[10:19] <sri999> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:20] <hume> sri999, running sudo?
[10:20] <Arafangion> omegacat: Believe it or not, this works much better than all other OS's I've seen.
[10:20] <factotum> troy_: best thing to do after you install a piece of software IS STILL to learn how to use it and what it does! Fun stuff huh??!!
[10:20] <sri999> this the error i have received while trying to execute .bin file
[10:20] <sri999> can anyone pls help me
[10:20] <POVaddct> hume: sudo has nothing to do with that error message. a library is missing.
[10:20] <hume> sri999, executing with sudo?
[10:20] <troy_> yeah I need to get it to run too use it
[10:21] <zcat[1] > last time I installed relaplayer was way back under Redhat7 .. it hijacted all my associations for various filetypes.. just like it does in WIndows. I swore I would never install that pile of shit again, and I never have.
[10:21] <omegacat> Arafangion i can't find them on my g list, only that one and the ones i told it to hold back ?
[10:21] <POVaddct> sri999: seems the installer needs some old c++ library. maybe there is a package for that.
[10:21] <sri999> using chmod +x
[10:21] <Arafangion> troy_: How me how you list the contents of the current directory you are in?
[10:21] <POVaddct> sri999: currently i am not an ubuntu so i can't check
[10:21] <Arafangion> troy_: You type "ls", without the quotations, then you hit enter.
[10:21] <troy_> dir
[10:21] <zcat[1] > mplayer with w32codecs seems to handle all the real files and streams..
[10:22] <ramin> guys, its not working
[10:22] <omegacat> whoa! my mouse works on aptitude!
[10:22] <Arafangion> troy_: Congrats, you just ran damn command, now, any guesses as to how run a different program?
[10:22] <Arafangion> troy_: Such as "cd"?
[10:22] <sri999> how can i install tht package
[10:22] <Arafangion> omegacat: Wow!
[10:23] <POVaddct> Arafangion: i suspect troy_ being a troll
[10:23] <hume> sri999, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[10:23] <Arafangion> omegacat: Doesn't work for me :(
[10:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> ok, is someone going to help me with the alternatives thing?
[10:23] <wickedpuppy> sri999, opens up synaptic ... search for the missing library
[10:23] <troy_> I know how to change directory and stuff because I tried to install the
[10:23] <CorpseFeeder> ug! ug! me no got program work. you me help yes? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25380/ you make tell how bad error go - so corpsefeeder play many good scrabble. ug! ug! flibble!
[10:23] <ramin> okay, so if i cant get that to work, how do i start VMware up
[10:23] <Arafangion> POVaddct: Quite possibly.
[10:23] <troy_> ahhh fuck you guiys
[10:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> i can't get my lastfm player to work and I suspect java
[10:23] <POVaddct> hume: i think the package name is different
[10:23] <troy_> and fuck linux
[10:23] <POVaddct> troy_: geh kacken, junge
[10:23] <ramin> I have already installed VMware
[10:23] <hume> POVaddct, is called that in my apt-cache seach output
[10:24] <Madpilot> troy_, cool it
[10:24] <ramin> I just dont see how I can get it started
[10:24] <troy_> ok sorry
[10:24] <troy_> dont call me names
[10:24] <POVaddct> hume: okay
[10:24] <Sktfeelsdapper> i need to find the thing for java alternatives
[10:24] <Arafangion> troy_: It's just very frustrating, when you tell people things and it just doesn't get in.
[10:24] <ramin> I have the WIndows cd so I wanna install  it on that
[10:24] <Arafangion> troy_: Have you installed build-essential?
[10:24] <shriphani> ramin, make a vmx
[10:24] <troy_> not yet
[10:24] <munkay> sri999: apt-get install compat-libstdc++-33
[10:24] <shriphani> get a vmdk and install
[10:25] <munkay> then try to install, it will work
[10:25] <ramin> how do i do that?
[10:25] <omegacat> Arafangion I acidently hit one that was a p and now it is an i and i want to make it a p again?
[10:25] <troy_> took a while to find it
[10:25] <Arafangion> troy_: Keep in mind that an obscure program that you can only install via source is unlikely to succeed without alot of work, because you'll have to manage dependencies manually.
[10:25] <shriphani> ramin, google for the vmx file you need
[10:25] <ramin> k
[10:25] <hume> POVaddct, you have a suggestion for an easy tool for configurating iptables through command line?
[10:25] <POVaddct> hume: iptables itself :)
[10:25] <zcat[1] > hume: firestarter
[10:25] <hume> POVaddct, well... easy..:)
[10:25] <Arafangion> omegacat: I think you hit -
[10:25] <wickedpuppy> firestarter is graphics ...
[10:26] <CorpseFeeder> ug! ug! me no got program work. you me help yes? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25380/ you make tell how bad error go - so corpsefeeder play many good scrabble. ug! ug! flibble!
[10:26] <hume> zcat[1] , does firestarter run on cammand line?
[10:26] <zcat[1] > hmmm..
[10:26] <zcat[1] > sorry, didn't read the whole question.
[10:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is anyone else having trouble with last-fm player?
[10:27] <Arafangion> troy_: Windows is even worse, you usually have to fiddle with the source code itself, or make sure you have the exact same version of MS Visual Studio, and have the exact COM components installed, etc.
[10:27] <omegacat> Arafangion now it is id and says -73.1MB but it is linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[10:27] <omegacat> which i am afraid is my current one that i am still needing?
[10:27] <Arafangion> omegacat: Make sure you don't remove your current kernel, you are only trying to get it to not upgrade it.
[10:27] <ramin> where do i put the VMX file?
[10:27] <zcat[1] > Arafangion: assuming you can get source for any of the popular windows programs...?
[10:27] <Arafangion> omegacat: Hit = to put it on hold.
[10:27] <Arafangion> zcat[1] : Haha, true. :)
[10:27] <POVaddct> hume: you have to know what you are doing anyway when configuring a firewall, so why not use iptables? so you want to have only ssh and http open?
[10:28] <omegacat> Arafangion and then it won't remove it?
[10:28] <POVaddct> hume: which other services do you run?
[10:28] <Arafangion> omegacat: Theoretically, it won't upgrade it either.
[10:28] <CorpseFeeder> I am linuxically challenged.. somebody save me
[10:28] <Arafangion> Quick! Someone install OpenBSD onto CorpseFeeder!!! :)
[10:28] <hume> POVaddct, just a webserver, well, needs DNS as well
[10:28] <troy_> the chosen action also affects other packages . The following changes are required to proceed
[10:29] <ramin> shriphani, where do i put the VMX file or commands
[10:29] <troy_> will these install with build ess
[10:29] <Arafangion> troy_: Hit 'y'.
[10:29] <POVaddct> hume: no i mean what services are running that listen on tcp ports now?
[10:29] <Arafangion> troy_: build-essential is what's known as a "meta package".
[10:29] <barata> who uses ONLY ubuntu I wonder?
[10:29] <barata> I do though
[10:29] <tyuio> me
[10:30] <renaud> me too
[10:30] <mormoloc> hello
[10:30] <Arafangion> troy_: It's a convenience package that installs everything you will need to compile basic stuff.
[10:30] <factotum> id like to try setting up my own server, but have yet to try it, have an old p2 box that would work well, but i think my isp changes the ip now and again. Everythings just dhcp here
[10:30] <hume> POVaddct, I am not sure, need a portmap to check, right?
[10:30] <tyuio> dumped windows because it nagged me to register one too many times
[10:30] <troy_> downloading now
[10:30] <Arafangion> troy_: Such as a compiler, linker, make program, and so on.
[10:30] <barata> how many % is the people who uses linux only as the main OS?
[10:30] <ramin> anybody know where I would put a VMX file!
[10:30] <POVaddct> hume: no. ever used netstat?
[10:30] <ramin> for Vmware
[10:30] <wickedpuppy> barata, are you from microsoft ?
[10:30] <zcat[1] > barata: me
[10:30] <hume> POVaddct, nope
[10:30] <Arafangion> barata: Most of those who are connected to this server, I would say.
[10:30] <troy_> it also said about 111 packages will not be upgraded
[10:30] <tyuio> and actually now that i've been using linux it's much easier than windows
[10:30] <mormoloc> when i try to compile gedit 2.16 i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25382/
 barata, are you from microsoft ? --> I wouldnt mind, it pays well
[10:30] <POVaddct> hume: netstat --inet -an | grep LISTEN     (do not paste here)
[10:31] <ramin> linux is extremely hard
[10:31] <CorpseFeeder> has anyone taken a look at this problem yet?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25380/
[10:31] <ramin> but u have to get used to it
[10:31] <barata> i c Arafangion
[10:31] <Arafangion> ramin: It's extremely easy - just _different_.
[10:31] <troy_> the simple things are hard
[10:31] <ramin> i suppose, but could you tell me where to put a VM builder
[10:31] <barata> ramin, actually Windows is hard
[10:31] <ramin> or VMX file
[10:31] <wickedpuppy> so hard things are simple ?
[10:31] <Arafangion> troy_: The simple things are infact, extremely different.
[10:31] <ramin> whatever
[10:31] <hume> POVaddct, ok, gives me 9 rows but not the name of services
[10:31] <BelialMkII> ramin, can be anywhere it defaults to /var/lib/vmware/Virtual Machines/
[10:31] <barata> Windows is good too, but it's so insecure
[10:31] <factotum> yeah i got into it after building a system and not wanting to run win2k anymore but no money for xp, friend installed redhat 7.3 on it for me, the rest is history
[10:32] <troy_> its not simple to setup my network adaptor
[10:32] <Arafangion> troy_: Incidently you can do many things on Mac OS X as well, it's windows that's really hard.
[10:32] <ramin> cool thanks
[10:32] <POVaddct> hume: sudo netstat --inet -anp | grep LISTEN
[10:32] <blenderx> Hi :
[10:32] <blenderx> Hi!
[10:32] <troy_> nar windows is easy so is dos
[10:32] <factotum> and still to this day im more or less still a desktop user
[10:32] <blenderx> I have a question!
[10:32] <hume> POVaddct, I'm running as root - got root account enabled
[10:32] <POVaddct> hume: ah okay
[10:32] <barata> troy_: wait until you get into a problem ... the best is always just reinstall it
[10:32] <hume> ok, got the names now
[10:32] <Arafangion> troy_: Linux is much, much easier than dos.
[10:32] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: give us the strace output also please
[10:32] <blenderx> I just finished installing ubuntu on my x86 machine,
[10:32] <sri999>  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:32] <sri999> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[10:32] <tyuio> the only thing i miss on windows is photoshop - but that's adobe's fault
[10:32] <troy_> ive been using dos and windows since I was young
[10:33] <barata> dos syntax is so so ugly
[10:33] <blenderx> and now I want to configure my network interfaces,
[10:33] <troy_> nar dos is a peace of piss
[10:33] <barata> even to eyes dos syntax is so crumpy
[10:33] <Arafangion> troy_: I'm amazed that you've managed to install your wireless card in dos. :)
[10:33] <blenderx> the system is asking for the root password,
[10:33] <cherubiel> sri999: using sudo?
[10:33] <Overand> dos is a hack on / clone of cp/m which is a cheap clone of unix
[10:33] <omegacat> Arafangion ok it seems like those errors are gone, i used find broken to find them and tell it to remove them
[10:33] <troy_> in windows
[10:33] <POVaddct> hume: see which services bind to any interface (0.0.0.0) and which are bind to a specific interfaces (ip address)
[10:33] <blenderx> but I don't have any idea
[10:33] <Arafangion> omegacat: Excellent :)
[10:33] <cherubiel> blenderx: it will be done with sudo, supply your current user password
[10:33] <Overand> not that i didn't like DOS
[10:33] <barata> blenderx: 'sudo bash' and keep it, you dont need to go back again
[10:33] <Madpilot> blenderx, assuming you did a regular install, it's askign for your own password
[10:33] <CorpseFeeder> cherubiel: I'd love to give you the strace output, but unfortunately I don't know what that is or how to get it.
[10:33] <hume> POVaddct, ok, either 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1
[10:33] <blenderx> OK
[10:33] <cherubiel> strace <program>
[10:34] <blenderx> I'll try that
[10:34] <ramin> I couldnt find Vmware at /var/lib/vmware/Virtual Machines/
[10:34] <troy_> linux does not even tell you where you are in the prompt
[10:34] <omegacat> Arafangion now i should try apt get and see if it is fixed?
[10:34] <barata> ramin alt+f2 then vmware ... if it's running then fine
[10:34] <Overand> troy_: it can
[10:34] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: you understand that ou're using gcj right?
[10:34] <hume> mysql, famd, exim4 listens on 127.0.0.1, the other 6 to 0.0.0.0
[10:34] <daurn|afk> uh
[10:34] <Duke993> hi all
[10:34] <blenderx> worked!
[10:34] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: or are you not aware?
[10:34] <Lam_> troy_: command is "pwd"
[10:34] <POVaddct> hume: yeah. the ones bound to 127.0.0.1 don't need to be protected by a firewall, they are only avaible from localhost
[10:34] <Overand> troy_: usually, my machines tell me exactly where i am
[10:34] <blenderx> Thanks.
[10:34] <daurn|afk> how do you setup a joystick?
[10:34] <Arafangion> troy_: That's because most linux people just type "pwd" when they want to.
[10:34] <barata> just pwd troy_ ... you can if you want too, but it gets too long
[10:34] <hume> right
[10:34] <zcat[1] > troy_: really? you must have changed it because the default does.
[10:34] <Overand> troy_: you just don't know how to read it- many distros default to showing current location
[10:35] <Arafangion> troy_: But you can change that, what does: "echo $PS1" say?
[10:35] <troy_> wait a sec
[10:35] <Overand> "~" means /home/username
[10:35] <CorpseFeeder> cherubiel: what do I put in <program>? What is gcj? the program I run from a terminal with "java -jar wordbiz.jar"
[10:35] <hume> so I got six listening to 0.0.0.0, portmap, apacjhe2, inetd, rpc.statd, sshd and apache-ssl
[10:35] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: try this: ls -l `which java`
[10:35] <tyuio> it seems like you just aren't giving it a good chance troy_ :P
[10:35] <BelialMkII> ramin, have you rant he vmware-config script yet and compiled the modules?
[10:36] <factotum> yeah my prompt does location by default, always starts with me in ~ aka my /home dir
[10:36] <ramin> no
[10:36] <troy_> If im going to learn linux i need to forget about my years of dos and windows
[10:36] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: you must be using the gcc java wrapper..
[10:36] <mormoloc> when i try to compile gedit 2.16 i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25382/
[10:36] <darkanyel> hi, how can i make my nautilus look like this http://www.taimila.com/images/orange-look/orange-example.png
[10:36] <mormoloc> what is it says (what dependancy missing?)
[10:36] <ramin> I wouldnt know about that
[10:36] <ramin> tell me
[10:36] <Overand> troy_: you don't need to forget about your years of dos and windows
[10:36] <Overand> troy_: how old are you?
[10:36] <Lam_> troy_: no.  some commands (very few) do carry over.  such as cd
[10:36] <matti> :)
[10:36] <Madpilot> troy_, yeah, you do - this isn't Windows anymore!
[10:36] <CorpseFeeder> it tells me "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-09-30 18:00 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java"
[10:36] <Overand> I used DOS since, well, DOS 5.0
[10:36] <tyuio> haha
[10:36] <tyuio> 'ere be monsters
[10:36] <troy_> same
[10:36] <Arafangion> troy_: Indeed.
[10:36] <Overand> but I used Apple II "DOS" and Apple II "ProDOS"
[10:36] <Arafangion> troy_: I find windows really, really hard and confusing myself.
[10:36] <troy_> 27
[10:36] <Overand> and I was able to learn this stuff
[10:37] <BelialMkII> ramin, The readme file would be a start ;-) run ./vmware-config.pl as root
[10:37] <Arafangion> troy_: And I still can't understand why the heck windows needs SIX libc's!
[10:37] <Overand> the thing is, linux and unix in general make more sense
[10:37] <factotum> heh yeah i had prodos at my grandparents house
[10:37] <Lam_> troy_: i've used windows for 9 years now. and i'm comfortable learning linux.  you DO have to learn it all over again, but that's the nature of an Open Source OS
[10:37] <Arafangion> troy_: And none of them have fork()!
[10:37] <Overand> there's just a learning curve
[10:37] <blenderx> OK, now I have another problem...
[10:37] <POVaddct> hume: okay, you don't want portmap, rpc.statd and inetd to be available to the public. inetd binds to more than one port i guess.
[10:37] <darkanyel> hi, how can i make my nautilus look like this http://www.taimila.com/images/orange-look/orange-example.png
[10:37] <blenderx> I can't start a shell as root
[10:37] <CorpseFeeder> cherubiel: "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-09-30 18:00 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java" did that mean anything important to you? Meant nothing to me...
[10:37] <Overand> blenderx: sudo -s
[10:37] <blenderx> I'm doing su - root
[10:37] <hume> POVaddct, no, inetd binds just to 113
[10:37] <Madpilot> blenderx, use sudo, not su
[10:38] <Overand> don't use su
[10:38] <unfknblvbl> darkanyel: http://www.taimila.com/orange-look.php
[10:38] <blenderx> why?
[10:38] <Overand> blenderx: su is effectively 'switch user'
[10:38] <blenderx> it used to work on fedora boxes?
[10:38] <Madpilot> blenderx, because Ubuntu is set up to use sudo + your user password, not su/root/etc. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:38] <Overand> so you're trying to switch to an account that is disabled- 'root'
[10:38] <POVaddct> hume: then it identd, not inetd?
[10:38] <troy_> ok package installed now what
[10:38] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: try this swithc during compile, --enable-java-awt=gtk
[10:39] <Arafangion> blenderx: Well, sudo gives much greater control over access, plus you can set it up to log by default, and you can have two administrators use some programs as root, without having to sync the root password all the time, etc.
[10:39] <hume> POVaddct, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:113             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     2002/inetd
[10:39] <factotum> you could just enable root
[10:39] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: your java is not from SUN, the one you are using is the java front end for gcc.
[10:39] <Lam_> blenderx: sudo is the ubuntu equivalent of "super user do".  it's safer than having a root account.  if need be, you can switch to root mode using "sudo -i"
[10:39] <factotum> ...and watch half the channel freak out
[10:39] <Arafangion> troy_: Now, the pain just starts, given that you want to compile and install an obscure source-only program on an OS you have never used before.
[10:39] <POVaddct> hume: aha. then inetd starts identd when port 113 is connected
[10:39] <Arafangion> factotum: Root is already "enabled".
[10:39] <blenderx> with the my account password?
[10:40] <POVaddct> hume: do you need identd anayway?
[10:40] <Lam_> blenderx: yes
[10:40] <blenderx> ?
[10:40] <factotum> Arafangion: thanks for the knitpick
[10:40] <chemaja> guys, does anyone know whether the Intel 965 chipset (you know, http://intellinuxgraphics.com) is for laptops or just desktops?
[10:40] <Madpilot> blenderx, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo - whenever Ubuntu asks for a password, it's asking for your own user pw
[10:40] <troy_> the pain started as soon as I thought i would try linux
[10:40] <Arafangion> factotum: You're welcome.
[10:40] <hume> POVaddct, don't think so, I mean, not that I know of. just webserver, nothing else
[10:40] <blenderx> having the root to have its own password is much safer IMHO
[10:40] <chemaja> i'm a little confused
[10:40] <darkanyel> unfknblvbl, in that page doesnt say how to change the nautilus :(
[10:40] <Arafangion> troy_: Think of it from my point of view.
[10:41] <CorpseFeeder> it isn't from Sun? Are you sure? the one I just installed was called sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-jre... do I need to reboot the computer or something?
[10:41] <Arafangion> troy_: I've recently had to compile a random (piece of shit) that my lecturer wrote.
[10:41] <Arafangion> troy_: It was written in VB6, and I had to compile it on windows.
[10:41] <Lam_> blenderx: in hacker terms, no it isn't.  it eliminates a variable for hackers to use.  they no longer need to guess a username, since it's "root"
[10:41] <Madpilot> blenderx, that's an arguement that goes around and around - to sum it up, the Ubuntu devs disagree with you ;)
[10:41] <POVaddct> hume: if not, i suggest disabling inetd (and therefore identd). inetd is a "super daemon". it can bind to serveral ports and start different services on demand when one of those ports is connected.
[10:41] <troy_> hmm
[10:41] <unfknblvbl> its a theme you change darkanyel
[10:41] <Arafangion> troy_: Turns out the lecturer had "upgraded" it to VB.NET, and I tried to compile it and then run it.
[10:41] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: you need to update the links in /bin or /usr/bin
[10:41] <troy_> why does programs have to be compiled for linux
[10:42] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: currently, the java you use is the gcc frontend..
[10:42] <Arafangion> troy_: Somehow, I managed to compile it, but how the heck was I to know that it needs the WinSock COM component?
[10:42] <hume> POVaddct, how do I disable it? or you mean, with firewall?
[10:42] <Lam_> blenderx: and if others can log onto your computer using your account name with sudo priviledges, then you're screwed to begin with. choose a better password ;)
[10:42] <blenderx> OK, OK.. I got the philosophy...
[10:42] <Arafangion> troy_: Programs have to be compiled for ALL OS's, including windows.
[10:42] <tyuio> they have to be compiled for windows too
[10:42] <POVaddct> hume: if you dont need that, i suggest disabling it. i just want to show that not running services is better that running (unneeded) services and protecting them by a firewall.
[10:42] <troy_> yeah but I dont have to compile for window
[10:42] <troy_> I dont get it
[10:42] <Arafangion> troy_: But generally, most people just use apt-cache search <keyword> to find something they want, then they apt-get install <package name>
[10:42] <zcat[1] > You don't ahev to compile for Linux either.. use prebuilt packages!!
[10:42] <tyuio> some people might want to change the code
[10:43] <cherubiel> mormoloc: try libxml-xerces-perl
[10:43] <troy_> ok prebuilt
[10:43] <Arafangion> troy_: On the other hand...
[10:43] <POVaddct> hume: to disable inetd, remove the symbolic link to the inetd script from /etc/rc5.d
[10:43] <cherubiel> mormoloc: that is the Perl API to Xerces XML parser
[10:43] <Lam_> troy_:  developers compile programs FOR you.  you do it yourself in linux since linux programs are usually open source, which means you can see the code, whereas in Windows, developers don't want you to look at the source since most will steal stuff
[10:43] <hume> POVaddct, ok
[10:43] <blenderx> Great, I'm going to play a bit w/ my ubuntu install.. I'd like mainly to try the update mechanism...
[10:43] <tyuio> if you enable extra repositories you get a pretty good selection of packages
[10:43] <troy_> true
[10:43] <omegacat> Arafangion: should i uninstall the broadcom package i installed earlier from that other repository and then try updating those files?
[10:43] <blenderx> Alright, thanks everybody!
[10:43] <Arafangion> troy_: If you were running Vista for the 64-bit cpu, and suppose it was unable to run 32-bit programs.
[10:43] <POVaddct> hume: the link looks like SXXinetd  (where XX is a number)
[10:43] <Arafangion> omegacat: Personally, if all your hardware is working fine, I'd keep the kernel the same.
[10:44] <Arafangion> omegacat: It works, no point in upgrading it.
[10:44] <troy_> yeah that would be too bad
[10:44] <mormoloc> cherubiel: will try , thanks
[10:44] <volvoguy> hey all. i'm trying to install the latest edgy release (from livecd) and after all the earlier releases worked fine, i'm now stuck on "running update-grub" and it hasn't moved for a half hour. should i give it a try from scratch again or is there some troubleshooting i can do?
[10:44] <troy_> im a user not a programmer
[10:44] <hume> POVaddct, done
[10:44] <Arafangion> troy_: On the other hand, if you had the source code...
[10:44] <Arafangion> troy_: In that case, you just do what most windows users do, put up with not having the 64-bit version.
[10:44] <troy_> source code is good but its no good to me
[10:44] <Lam_> troy_:  linux is more oriented to enthusiasts and interested people.  if you are truly not interested in linux, you are not forced into using it
[10:44] <DarkWizzard> hey all
[10:44] <POVaddct> hume: this will not start inetd at your next boot. to disable it right now, type: /etc/init.d/inetd stop
[10:44] <omegacat> Arafangion: i am still getting the gnome appelet and ubuntu-desktop errors, should i do the same thing to get rid of those?
[10:44] <Arafangion> troy_: Likewise, you can choose to just put up with having to rely on prebuilt binaries in the repository.
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> troy_, put it this way ... on windows you can bitch and nobody gives a damn .. on linux you do what you want how you want it
[10:45] <troy_> im good at computers but not linux
[10:45] <Arafangion> troy_: Or, you can still bitch and nobody gives a damn ;) (Humour intentional)
[10:45] <hume> POVaddct, now it's gone
[10:45] <cherubiel> troy_: are you looking for any specific software?
[10:45] <troy_> and one day I want to program
[10:45] <Lam_> troy_:  it's not whether you are "good with computers".  it's more on the lines of "do you want to learn something new" because linux is a totally different paradigm than windows
[10:45] <troy_> I want to edit AVI and do alot of video editing
[10:45] <cherubiel> troy_: you will get prebuilt/precompiled binaries for various architectures and distros
[10:46] <troy_> also get all my network working
[10:46] <Lam_> troy_: doors open very very fast in linux and the options can overwhelm people
[10:46] <CorpseFeeder> why haven't we evolved into morloks yet like in the time machine?
[10:46] <tyuio> hahaha
[10:46] <cherubiel> heh
[10:46] <CorpseFeeder> oh, not forget that. I just saw two walk past the front of my house.
[10:46] <Arafangion> omegacat: With those, I'd probably try upgrading or downgrading them and/or dependencies.
[10:46] <POVaddct> hume: so now there's portmap and rpc.* left?
[10:46] <troy_> sorry guys be back later time for dinner
[10:46] <porkpie> hi can anyone here point me to a doc that tells me how to build ubuntu with xfs
[10:46] <POVaddct> hume: apart from sshd and apache
[10:46] <porkpie> instead of ext3
[10:46] <troy_> maybe my brain will work better after food
[10:47] <Arafangion> troy_: Arguably, you should've gotten a mac, their user base is very media centric.
[10:47] <raar> Hello, I'm installing ubuntu on a pc I already have windows on, on a different partition - now when ubuntu installs it needs a reboot after it made the partitions and copied most of the files.. However when it reboots it just boots to windows instead to the rest of the ubuntu installation - what do I do?
[10:47] <omegacat> Arafangion =) ok, i'll probably be back shortly with another Ubuntu Crisis
[10:47] <Arafangion> troy_: While the linux user base is very much administrator/programmer centric.
[10:47] <Ademan> real player won't play rm movies with a missing x-pn-imagemap error anyone have a fix?
[10:47] <Arafangion> troy_: I haven't a clue what the windows user base is - solataire? :)
[10:48] <Eclipse75> hello?
[10:48] <zcat[1] > Arafangion: and minesweeper!
[10:48] <Lam_> Windows has its upsides.  it's more for people that don't want to deal with computers imo.
[10:48] <hume> POVaddct, right
[10:48] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[10:48] <blehblop> I'm getting the following error after apt-get fetches packages: Fetched 9861kB in 13s (713kB/s)
[10:48] <blehblop> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend belocs-locales-bin for locales, probably a dependency cycle.
[10:48] <blehblop> root@churchill:~#
[10:48] <DarkWizzard> can anyone help me with firestarter
[10:48] <blehblop> what is this?
[10:48] <ramin> good night, linux is making my head hurt, i gotta get some sleep
[10:48] <omegacat> Arafangion: and age of empires 3 =(
[10:48] <volvoguy> i'll try on monday when more people are awake. g'night all.
[10:48] <Arafangion> zcat[1] : D'oh!
[10:48] <POVaddct> hume: do you need those two services? they are needed for nfs servers
[10:48] <DarkWizzard> darkwizzard@DarkNet:~$ sudo firestarter -s
[10:48] <DarkWizzard> External network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[10:48] <DarkWizzard> Failed to start the firewall
[10:48] <DarkWizzard> The device eth0 is not ready.
[10:48] <DarkWizzard> Please check your network device settings and make sure your
[10:48] <DarkWizzard> Internet connection is active.
[10:49] <tyuio> new wine finally added to repositories
[10:49] <tyuio> :p
[10:49] <DarkWizzard> I want it to work for eth0:0
[10:49] <Arafangion> DarkWizzard: STOP
[10:49] <drumline_> anyone running VMWare?
[10:49] <Arafangion> DarkWizzard: Read /topic, and use the pastebin
[10:49] <hume> POVaddct, no, if not needed by backuppc then I wont need them
[10:49] <Ademan> tyuio: i found several regressions with the new wine
[10:49] <cherubiel> drumline_: #vmware
[10:49] <raar> any clue on my query, how to make ubuntu put itself in the boot mbr when it installs, so it can infact install itself after the reboot?
[10:49] <Ademan> 0.9.21
[10:49] <Arafangion> tyuio: It's recommended to use 0.9.20, or use the latest git code, but not 0.9.21
[10:49] <hefti> hi, anyone here who can help me with: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3933/  ?
[10:49] <tyuio> ohno
[10:49] <blehblop> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend belocs-locales-bin for locales, probably a dependency cycle.
[10:50] <blehblop> what is this?
[10:50] <hume> POVaddct, removed, so now there are just apache, sshd and apache-ssl...:)
[10:50] <tyuio> oh, i mean 0.9.22
[10:50] <TyRiOn-MX> hi all
[10:50] <TyRiOn-MX> how can i change the password for my user?
[10:50] <Arafangion> tyuio: That should be good. :)
[10:50] <blehblop> TyRiOn-MX, passwd
[10:50] <tyuio> i do only use it for a guitar application for windows though
[10:50] <TyRiOn-MX> :) thx
[10:50] <drumline_> cherubiel: #vmware is dead at this hour.   It regards VMWare running on Ubuntu.
[10:50] <POVaddct> hume: yeah, now there should be only open ports: 22, 80, 443
[10:50] <TyRiOn-MX> and for create a new user?
[10:50] <CorpseFeeder> cherubiel: I responded to the pm you sent me......
[10:50] <blehblop> TyRiOn-MX, adduser
[10:50] <hefti> winecfg does not start.. it crashs (wine .22)
[10:50] <TyRiOn-MX> :)
[10:50] <Arafangion> tyuio: Wine does regress from time to time, if you only use it for one app, I _highly recommend_ you to not upgrade it.
[10:50] <hume> POVaddct, right, execpt that I set sshd to listen to a different port
[10:50] <Arafangion> tyuio: Ever.
[10:51] <Arafangion> hefti: Don't use winecfg
[10:51] <POVaddct> hume: okay
[10:51] <Arafangion> hefti: It's utterly outdated.
[10:51] <Arafangion> hefti: Use wine regedit instead
[10:51] <hume> POVaddct, would that mean that I need no iptables at all?
[10:51] <ClayG> anyone here know the correct syntax for in then otherwise in open office calc?
[10:52] <hefti> Arafangion: thx, i will test that.
[10:52] <Madeye> what is CAPI driver ? I'm trying to run drdsl but getting this error ERROR: The CAPI driver is not installed, loaded or accessible!
[10:52] <POVaddct> hume: just for info: if you wanted to block a tcp port on the public interface, you would type: iptables -A INPUT -i your_public_interface -p tcp --dport the_port -j REJECT
[10:52] <Arafangion> hefti: Unfortunately, the documentation isn't exactly excellent :(
[10:52] <kaffeewoller> hi
[10:52] <Arafangion> hefti: Best bet is to read the #winehq /topic, and ask as neccessary.
[10:52] <POVaddct> hume: yes, as long as you don't run other services you don't need iptables.
[10:53] <POVaddct> hume: i mean other services bound to all interfaces
[10:53] <kaffeewoller> what can i do to get the fan speed of the cpu cooler?
[10:53] <tk> has anyone else had problems with the 386 606 CD being non bootable when burning it?
[10:53] <blehblop> kaffeewoller, look around in proc fs
[10:53] <Arafangion> kaffeewoller: Stick a pen in it, and listen to how many "ticks" you hear per second :)
[10:53] <kaffeewoller> blehblop: thanks
[10:53] <hefti> Arafangion: i got the same error: X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[10:53] <Ademan> real player won't play rm movies with a missing x-pn-imagemap error anyone have a fix?
[10:53] <Madpilot> tk, did you run an md5sum check before you burned the ISO?
[10:54] <tk> Madpilot: no, I didnt
[10:54] <drumline_> tk: get into that habit.
[10:54] <Eclipse75> so mp3 codecs aren't included with ubuntu huh?
[10:54] <cherubiel> kaffeewoller: /proc/acpi/fan
[10:54] <Madpilot> Eclipse75, not by default, no
[10:54] <zcat[1] > tk: assuming you're not making a new session and dropping the ISO into it.. :-)
[10:54] <hume> POVaddct, thanks
[10:55] <Madpilot> tk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto <-- has XP & OSX info too
[10:55] <kaffeewoller> cherubiel:
[10:55] <Arafangion> hefti: Try mv ~/.wine ~/.wine-old; first
[10:55] <Eclipse75> hrmm crap, can i download a package for the codecs? or will i have to download it from mplayer or something
[10:55] <kaffeewoller> cherubiel: got no such dir...
[10:55] <cherubiel> kaffeewoller: you prolly don't have the correct acpi modules then..
[10:55] <Arafangion> kaffeewoller: Try /proc/acpi/fan/
[10:55] <Eclipse75> and does ubuntu support wmv codec by default?
[10:55] <cherubiel> !acpi > kaffeewoller
[10:55] <drumline_> Will that codec issue ever be solved with Ubuntu?   That's a thorn in its side.
[10:55] <Arafangion> kaffeewoller: I've got the directory, but nothing's in it. From memory, many things on windows that "report" the fan speed make it up.
[10:55] <kaffeewoller> cherubiel: ah, i overlooked it. :\
[10:56] <blenderx> OK, here we go, another issue....
[10:56] <TyRiOn-MX> mhh
[10:56] <Madpilot> Eclipse75, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats has all the info you need - you can install codecs
[10:56] <blenderx> I can't get the system to recognize my ethernet card..
[10:56] <blenderx> well, actually it's a built-in thing...
[10:56] <cherubiel> blenderx: lspci ?
[10:56] <blenderx> on fedora, I used to load the via-rhine driver to get the device working...
[10:57] <TyRiOn-MX> why if i add an user with users-admin and i do "su myuser" it print id <Myuser> not found
[10:57] <TyRiOn-MX> ?
[10:57] <kaffeewoller> yes, it is empty.
[10:57] <p0m> Hey guys, I'm wondering if there's a way to directly reference the keyboard device in an xorg config.
[10:57] <Arafangion> blenderx: Try putting that in your /etc/modules then.
[10:57] <hefti> Arafangion: i did a rm -R -f .wine* ^^
[10:57] <hefti> Arafangion: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3934/
[10:57] <Arafangion> hefti: Nice, you go all the way, don't you :)
[10:57] <Guard] [an> hi, how can i get the id of my lan network adapter using ubuntu ??? i'm trying to apply this http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=4987&st=100&p=105226&#entry105226  but i don't have windows
[10:57] <blenderx> I did a manual modprobe via-rhine,
[10:57] <ClayG> anyone know of a good site for a newbie wanting to learn c?
[10:57] <ClayG> like a beginners coarse er something
[10:58] <blenderx> I got the driver loaded and the dependencies resolved,
[10:58] <Arafangion> ClayG: I strongly recommend you choose a different language, such as Python.
[10:58] <blenderx> however, when I do ifconfig eth0 up
[10:58] <omegacat> uh oh
[10:58] <blenderx> nothing happens...
[10:58] <DarkWizzard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25386/
[10:58] <omegacat> i tried to reboot
[10:58] <mormoloc> cherubiel: now i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25385/
[10:58] <ClayG> why?
[10:58] <mormoloc> and log this log file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25387/
[10:58] <DarkWizzard> please help
[10:58] <Arafangion> hefti: I suggest you ask #winehq
[10:58] <zcat[1] > or intercal!!
[10:58] <omegacat> and it appears my display server has shut down repeatedly and i cannot have a gui any more
[10:58] <cherubiel> mormoloc: build-essential
[10:58] <Arafangion> hefti: And tell them what --version it is.
[10:59] <troy_> im back
[10:59] <blenderx> I also used that front-end tool in the System menu, however it didn't show up my eth0 interface...
[10:59] <ClayG> Arafangion, is pythong easier to learn/ more powerful? why do you recommend it over c?
[10:59] <blenderx> what's the problem?
[10:59] <hefti> Arafangion: did that already
[10:59] <hefti> Arafangion: no response
[10:59] <Arafangion> ClayG: Ok, try this: JOin ##c, ask if they would recommend learning python instead of C, as a first language, and tell me the response.
[10:59] <mormoloc> cherubiel: the whole command please im a newbie
[11:00] <cherubiel> mormoloc: apt-get install build-essential
[11:00] <omegacat> Arafangion I broke X =(
[11:00] <mormoloc> thanks
[11:00] <raar> I'm installing Ubuntu Linux on my PC on which I already have Windows. Now when the first steps (While it's still running off a CD; copying files etc) are done it needs to reboot. But then it reboots to Windows - any idea how to force Ubuntu to boot?
[11:00] <Arafangion> ClayG: Python is very easy to learn, and very powerful as well.
[11:00] <cherubiel> mormoloc: prepend sudo
[11:00] <mormoloc> k
[11:00] <ClayG> thanks, ill do that but that will probally be a good place to get links to sites for newbs wanting to learn c
[11:00] <troy_> I use my computer for video editing, Internet, File Sever for PS2 and other general PC stuff
[11:00] <Arafangion> omegacat: :(
[11:00] <ClayG> i will look into python
[11:00] <ClayG> as well
[11:00] <ClayG> just want something that will be useful on both nix and doz at least
[11:00] <ClayG> dont know enough to know if python will not
[11:00] <cpk2> trying to get the media keys on my keyboard (next/prev song volume adjust etc) to work, preferably with amarok any suggestions?
[11:00] <Arafangion> ClayG: Python will work on all OS's.
[11:00] <ClayG> just know/heard c is
[11:01] <cherubiel> mormoloc: you should see enough hints in config.log
[11:01] <omegacat> and now it's doing some wird thing where it gives me a logon, then flickers to the "you broke X screen"
[11:01] <cherubiel> mormoloc: that should log what went wrong
[11:01] <Arafangion> ClayG: You'll have a hard time getting the same C program to compile and run on windows as well as Linux.
[11:01] <troy_> I first need to get sound working then my wireless usb then i then can maybe get somewhere
[11:01] <ClayG> what about python?
[11:01] <zcat[1] > raar: the last thing before it rebooted, did it say anything about installing GRUB?
[11:01] <ClayG> can it be compiled into an .exe
[11:01] <porkpie> Guy's I am trying to create a 8GB partion for ubuntu's os as I want to use this server to run xen ....I am new to ubuntu and mainly use FreeBSD  ...how do I set this are the install stage ?
[11:01] <CorpseFeeder> I think cherubiel is too busy helping other people, so anyone else want to tell me where I've gone wrong? I installed all the sun-java5-* 1.5.0_06.1 stuff from synaptic but I still get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25380/ when I try to run the java scrabble game with " java -jar wordbiz.jar" Do I need to restart the computer or something for Java to be working properly?
[11:01] <Arafangion> omegacat: Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:01] <omegacat> "The display server has been shut down 6 times in the last 90 seconds. It is likely something bad is going on. Waiting 2 minutes."
[11:01] <EmxBA> can anyone give me a hand? which one remastering howto is better? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization or http://wiki.oss-watch.ac.uk/UbuntuDapper/Remaster
[11:02] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: dude,
[11:02] <tk> Madpilot: yah I already burned the CD in that exact way... musta been a bunk download :(
[11:02] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: i PMed you a million times, you don't respond!
[11:02] <Arafangion> ClayG: It can, actually, via py2exe, also, py2app for the Mac OS X equivalent.
[11:02] <EmxBA> cherubiel: he's not identified :P
[11:02] <Guard] [an> please, how can i get the device id of my lan network adapter in ubuntu ???
[11:02] <cherubiel> heh, right.
[11:02] <Arafangion> omegacat: Likely, a driver issue.
[11:02] <Madpilot> tk, use BitTorrent to get the ISO - BT has built-in error checking, I've never had a bunk ISO download via bt
[11:02] <ClayG> ill peep it thought, do you know of a good site for learning it? like a beginners site. i know "google is my freind" but advertising and stuff rather have a real person's recommendation\
[11:02] <CorpseFeeder> cherubiel I am responding.. you must not be getting my messages
[11:02] <p0m> Hi,Anyone know what the device for the keyboard is in 6.06 in case I need to reference it in the xorg configuration?
[11:02] <omegacat> Arafangion I just updated it?
[11:03] <Arafangion> omegacat: I haven't a clue what's happened with your system :(
[11:03] <tk> Madpilot: is there a torrent for the CD though? I really dont need 3gigs to install a desktop :)
[11:03] <cherubiel> CorpseFeeder: do a /msg nickserv identify <your passwd>
[11:03] <Madpilot> tk, yes, there is - look for the .torrent files at the same place you got the iso
[11:03] <tk> currently downloading the DVD,but was hoping to find the CD version as well
[11:03] <Arafangion> omegacat: But, generally, when X11 plays up like that, it's a driver issue.
[11:03] <CorpseFeeder> I am seeing this...
[11:03] <CorpseFeeder> (19:02:17) cherubiel: dude?
[11:03] <CorpseFeeder> (19:02:22) CorpseFeeder: yes?
[11:03] <CorpseFeeder> (19:03:13) CorpseFeeder: hello
[11:03] <tyuio> you can search on torrentspy
[11:04] <Arafangion> tk: MS will tell you that you need 3 gig just to install the damn compiler.
[11:04] <omegacat> heh
[11:04] <CorpseFeeder> i have no password as I am not registered with this nickserv
[11:04] <omegacat> it's trying to restart x while i try to fix it
[11:04] <Arafangion> CorpseFeeder: Then cherubiel won't be able to hear you.
[11:04] <Arafangion> omegacat: It'll soon stop.
[11:04] <omegacat> omg
[11:04] <CorpseFeeder> well that's stupid then
[11:05] <Madpilot> tk, try ftp://ftp.cs.mun.ca/pub/mirror/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent for example (happens to be from the Canadian mirror, but all the mirrors will have the .torrent files
[11:05] <cherubiel> !register
[11:05] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:05] <Arafangion> omegacat: You could also try not using gnome, just to see if it's x11 that's the problem.  IT could be gnoem that's the problem.
[11:05] <tk> Madpilot: i foudn it, just was at the very bottom in a text that was too small to read :/
[11:05] <Madpilot> CorpseFeeder, it's an anti-spam measure. Just register & identify first.
[11:05] <Madpilot> tk, cool
[11:05] <Arafangion> CorpseFeeder: Works very well, I used to get heaps of irritating privmsg's before they did that.
[11:06] <p0m> Anyone know what the keyboard device is under 6.06 (Using udev)?
[11:06] <Arafangion> p0m: Most people just assume the keyboard works.
[11:06] <p0m> Yeah, I would like to do that, but I can't.
[11:06] <Arafangion> p0m: How so?
[11:06] <omegacat> Arafangion I am rebooting now
[11:07] <p0m> I've got a terminal server that's attempting to use what appears to be the local server's keyboard and not the client's.
[11:07] <p0m> Mouse works fine, has a device defined in xorg.conf.
[11:07] <p0m> But the keyboard doesn't even respond.
[11:07] <p0m> Booting it to a console, the keyboard works fine.
[11:07] <Arafangion> p0m: You have a problem with X11 then.
[11:07] <p0m> Exactly.
[11:08] <Arafangion> p0m: dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:08] <p0m> Tried it with both KDM and GDM.
[11:08] <omegacat> I am having posessed video. I have a blue square.
[11:08] <p0m> Figured I could specify the keyboard device to be sure.
[11:08] <omegacat> sort of
[11:09] <WhiteDeth_> hey guys
[11:09] <WhiteDeth_> my Dapper disc just wont work anymore.
[11:09] <whazilla> hey
[11:09] <whazilla> how i find out my kde version ?
[11:09] <lilliput> hello all
[11:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> how do i unpackage a tar again?
[11:09] <whazilla> high lilli
[11:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> tvxz or something like that?
[11:09] <p0m> Sktfeelsdapper, tar -xvf
[11:09] <TyRiOn-MX> what's the command for run my ssh deamon?
[11:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> that's what i thought.
[11:09] <Arafangion> whazilla: That is a very good question indeed. :(
[11:09] <tk> Sktfeelsdapper: tar zxf (if its a tgz or tar.gz, or just xf if its a tar
[11:09] <p0m> TyRiOn-MX, /etc/init.d/sshd start
[11:10] <TyRiOn-MX> thx
[11:10] <Arafangion> whazilla: You can type: dpkg -l kde
[11:10] <whazilla> thkx
[11:10] <cpk2> whazilla: any kde app will have about kde in the help menu
[11:10] <Arafangion> whazilla: But that's not the version that the kde folks believe they are - that's the version that ubuntu has for it.
[11:10] <TheGateKeeper_> whazilla: start a kde app & go to Help->About KDE
[11:10] <darkanyel> how can i make my nautilus (left) look like the other (right) http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/8536/schermataid4.png
[11:11] <lilliput> got this stuff when installed ubuntu so just wondering what was going on "FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: enlarged logical partitions overlap"
[11:11] <Arafangion> lilliput: You have a corrupt partition table.
[11:11] <lilliput> can past a fdisk -l ?
[11:11] <Arafangion> lilliput: Use pastebin
[11:11] <stuh84> Hey people, got a bit of a problem. Trying to get an extended desktop on Ubuntu and its just not playing nice. Its an ATI (Radeon 200M if you must know), I've installed the drivers for it, and done all the config stuff. It seems to work fine before the logon page, allowing to go between the two monitors, but once its loaded, I am constrained to one desktop only, the mouse will go to the left edge of the second screen and
[11:11] <stuh84> will go no further. Anyone got any ideas?
[11:12] <EmxBA> how can i make iso from a CD?
[11:12] <lilliput> Arafangion, I did guess that, but I used the ubuntu installer .. and did first free the partition using cfdisk  never had that pb ...
[11:12] <porkpie> guy's how do I ask the bot to point me to a doc ??
[11:12] <Arafangion> stuh84: Put the "other screen" onto the other side of the "normal" screen.  Does it fix anything?
[11:12] <TyRiOn-MX> p0m: no file or directory... maybe i haven't ssh server installed?
[11:12] <benjamin> hello guys :) I have some trouble with my wireless card. it is supported by ubuntu (because i used it) out of the box, but in this case i installed the card AFTER installing ubuntu. It wont add it to my gnome-networking thing. which means i cant use it. However i can see it on the ubuntu-device stuff. can u help ?
[11:13] <zcat[1] > EmxBA: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
[11:13] <Sktfeelsdapper> is there anything else besides tar blah blah?
[11:13] <TyRiOn-MX> which packet i must install for running my server?
[11:13] <EmxBA> thanks zcat[1] 
[11:13] <stuh84> araf: even worse, it makes it so i can only use that screen, and not my laptop lcd
[11:13] <p0m> TyRiOn-MX, Possibly. If SSHD doesn't exist there'll be no init.d entry.
[11:13] <Arafangion> stuh84: Excuse the idiotic tone, but I think it's the best way to communicate: "Does it work if you put the mosue pointer all the way the other direction?"
[11:13] <CorpseFeeder> now where's that cherubiel gone? I got my nickserv sorted so we can pm properly now.
[11:13] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: what kind of tar is it? tar.what?
[11:13] <TyRiOn-MX> p0m: so what i must install?
[11:13] <omegacat> Arafangion: still doing it's weirdness
[11:14] <lilliput> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25391/
[11:14] <stuh84> araf: no dice, will not go into the second screen at all
[11:14] <Arafangion> omegacat: I'm using the proprietary ati drivers.
[11:14] <stuh84> no matter where i put the mouse
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> it's data.tar.gz
[11:14] <p0m> TyRiOn-MX, apt-get install openssh-server
[11:14] <TyRiOn-MX> okiz
[11:14] <p0m> You may have to sudo at the start.
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> there's data.tar.gz
[11:14] <omegacat> Arafangion I hate an ATI too!!! =)
[11:14] <kaffeewoller> how do i set the standard player for mp3?
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> And control.tar.gz
[11:14] <Arafangion> omegacat: "hate" is correct. :(
[11:14] <Sktfeelsdapper> and they are both on the desktop
[11:14] <omegacat> Arafangion how do i make it stop trying to start X?
[11:14] <Arafangion> stuh84: Have you tried booting it while they are both plugged in?
[11:14] <stuh84> if only this laptop came with an nvidia, i'd probably have it working by now :(
[11:15] <stuh84> araf: yep
[11:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want to install them, or unpackage or whatever.
[11:15] <Arafangion> omegacat: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:15] <stuh84> if i dont, it doesn't detect the second screen
[11:15] <Arafangion> stuh84: nvidia is a dream, indeed.
[11:15] <stuh84> like i said, it works fine BEFORE logon
[11:15] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: so to untar it it would be tar -xvzf name.tar.gz
[11:15] <stuh84> but the moment i logon
[11:15] <califfo> hi all
[11:15] <Arafangion> stuh84: Are you using gnome?
[11:15] <Aagni> hello all
[11:15] <stuh84> the mouse just wont go into the secone screen
[11:15] <stuh84> araf: yep
[11:15] <lilliput> Arafangion, could you have a look and tell me what you think
[11:15] <Sktfeelsdapper> oh really?
[11:16] <Aagni> any edgy upgrade gurus around?
[11:16] <omegacat> Arafangion could it be my ubuntu desktop package error?
[11:16] <Aagni> my edgy upgrade try is a bit edgy (lol)
[11:17] <Arafangion> omegacat: I don't know.
[11:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> what do file names with just .gz at the end mean?
[11:17] <TyRiOn-MX> p0m: ok sshd installed .. now i have to do something else?
[11:17] <Arafangion> stuh84: Using hte proprietary drivers?
[11:17] <p0m> TyRiOn-MX, Aside from edit your firewall config, probably not.
[11:17] <TyRiOn-MX> :)
[11:17] <TyRiOn-MX> okix
[11:17] <stuh84> araf: as far as i am aware, yes
[11:17] <p0m> Iirc dpkg starts the service.
[11:17] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: gunzip
[11:18] <califfo> I have a problem: kcontrol crash when accessing users&groups panel. Am I alone?
[11:18] <Arafangion> stuh84: I downloaded mine from the ATI website, I _knwo_ I am using the proprietary drivers. ARe you?
[11:18] <omegacat> Arafangion: ok, i will try fiking those from the cli and see if maybe that unbreaks it
[11:18] <tk> p0m: it does (i just installed it a while ago to help someone)
[11:18] <stuh84> i'll give that a try, it came from synaptic but i'm sure it was from one of the restricted drivers
[11:18] <p0m> Cool
[11:19] <Arafangion> stuh84: Just don't upgrade your kernel afterwards, ATI is finicky enough as it is.
[11:19] <stuh84> okay, if i ever upgrade to edgy, i'll be knackered then i bet :P
[11:19] <TyRiOn-MX> p0m: there is a way to view the numer of user connected to my ssh server and their last command?
[11:20] <Arafangion> stuh84: You should be able to do so without upgrading the kernel.
[11:20] <stuh84> i cant upgrade for a fair while anyway, bandwidth limit on the broadband until january
[11:20] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: "w" tells you all users logged in and their current command
[11:20] <Arafangion> stuh84: Or just backup your /home /etc and /var, and install edgy from scratch, then restore.
[11:20] <lilliput> got this stuff when installed ubuntu so just wondering what was going on "FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: enlarged logical partitions overlap"  fdisk -l = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25391/  really need help got 200GB  not found ..
[11:20] <afd__> hi! On my laptop (edgy), if I boot I can't access the console (ctr+alt+1) unless I boot with recovery mode. How can I change the console resolution?
[11:20] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: thx
[11:21] <CorpseFeeder> .
[11:21] <stuh84> and this is why i hate flash, i go to ATI's site, and all their drop down menu's have most of their options BEHIND the flash movie
[11:21] <stuh84> looks like i gotta look in their code because they dont know how to build a website
[11:21] <Arafangion> stuh84: Forutnately, ati allows you to just click on the menu itself.
[11:21] <stuh84> useless idiots
[11:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> WHY is there a . in front of the slash here?
[11:21] <Arafangion> stuh84: Indeed.
[11:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> for example ./usr what's that?
[11:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> I can't find it anywhere on my computer?
[11:21] <blehblop> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[11:21] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: that means its hidden
[11:21] <POVaddct> flash == proprietary b*llsh*t
[11:22] <blehblop> i get that error when running cdrecord -scanbus
[11:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> Why is it hidden?
[11:22] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: ls -a will show it
[11:22] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: Every directory has two "special" files.
[11:22] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: The "." (dot) and ".." (dot-dot).
[11:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> But why is it hidden?
[11:22] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: "." refers to "this directory", and ".." refers to the parent directory.
[11:22] <Arafangion> Sktfeelsdapper: They are hidden by long-standing convention.
[11:22] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: when you do ls- a you will see that you like it not being that cluttered
[11:23] <hockyhair> can somebody pls help me enable direct rendering on this cpu, i have an ati card
[11:23] <stuh84> 55 bloody meg for drivers, oh well, there goes the bandwidth limit.........
[11:23] <Sktfeelsdapper> and it's telling me i don't have permission to do anything
[11:23] <Arafangion> stuh84: We all love them :)
[11:23] <califfo> before kcontrol krashes i see this in konsole: kdecore (KLibLoader): library libpython2.4.so not found under 'module' but under 'lib' . Is it so bad?
[11:23] <POVaddct> Sktfeelsdapper: files and dirs beginning with "." are usually user config files, one doesn't want to see them normally when doing "ls", so it's just convenience. if you want to see them, type: ls -a
[11:24] <sonium> can someone tell where to set the screensaver settings in dapper? (in breezy this has been possible in the screensaver dialog, but in dapper the dialog doesn't have any advanced options)
[11:24] <Sktfeelsdapper> so i can't "do anything" with them I just have to accept them being there? Haha
[11:24] <mdious> different screensaver program?
[11:24] <hockyhair> !dri
[11:24] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[11:24] <CorpseFeeder> cherubiel: still here? or gone sleep? or taking a leak?
[11:24] <hockyhair> arg i need help with that
[11:24] <hockyhair> anyone..
[11:24] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: ?? you can edit the contents of dirs taht start with ./
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> well it's telling me i can't?
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> permission denied?
[11:25] <sonium> mdious: no, the screensaver itself are the same, just the system-> admin -> dialog is different
[11:25] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: it is probably owned by root, ls -l will tell you who owns what
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> theres one dot and then 2.
[11:25] <mdious> sonium>come to think of it mine changed when i did a dist upgrade from breezy to lts
[11:25] <stuh84> and if root owns it and you need to change it, preceed the command with sudo
[11:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> but i'm under root right now.
[11:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> i'm under root@skt
[11:26] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: it seems to don't work correctly ... under WHAT column i can't see the last command ...
[11:26] <TyRiOn-MX> i see bash
[11:27] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: i told you its the current command. the last command can't be seen.
[11:27] <CorpseFeeder> Ok I think cherubiel has gone awol again and I'm running out of time, so anyone else want to tell me where I've gone wrong? I installed all the sun-java5-* 1.5.0_06.1 stuff from synaptic but I still get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25380/ when I try to run the java scrabble game with " java -jar wordbiz.jar" Do I need to restart the computer or something for Sun Java to be working properly?
[11:27] <hockyhair> i need help enabling dri/direct rendering
[11:28] <JimJKar> Hi to all, I want help for edgy install.. cat help me any...
[11:28] <Madpilot> CorpseFeeder, did you do the -reconfigure thing to make sure your system is using the right Java install?
[11:28] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: that would mean having to read other user's .bash_history files (which is a violation of privacy)
[11:28] <Madpilot> JimJKar, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy
[11:28] <CorpseFeeder> it's ok cherub is back!
[11:28] <JimJKar> Thanks Madpilot
[11:28] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: what are you trying to do?
[11:28] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm trying to figure out why my lastfm client is hanging.
[11:29] <Sktfeelsdapper> I thought maybe a fresh install would help.
[11:29] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it's still hanging.
[11:29] <blehblop> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[11:29] <blehblop> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend belocs-locales-bin for locales, probably a dependency cycle.
[11:29] <blehblop> im trying to do apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:29] <TriGz> Hello guys :)
[11:29] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: ok ... i ask this for see what is doing an user connected with ssh on MY pc ... so i think that's no violation of his privacy ...
[11:29] <Sktfeelsdapper> and now all these stupid files are on the desktop.
[11:29] <TriGz> I decided 5.10 was a bad idea :). So i'm in the middle of upgrading to 6.06 :)
[11:30] <Sasuke> hi
[11:30] <TriGz> Hi Sasuke
[11:30] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: if you don't trust a user, why do you give him ssh access to your machine?
[11:30] <Sasuke> does anyone have any problems installing java in mozilla firefox? i keep installing it and it keeps saying its not installed
[11:30] <Madpilot> !java
[11:30] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:30] <hockyhair> anyone wanna help me with dri/direct rendering?
[11:31] <Madpilot> Sasuke, have a look at the URL in ubotu's line above ^^^
[11:31] <cpk2> Sktfeelsdapper: if you want to delete them and there is nothing inside them you want or need then sudo rm -rf nameofdir will get rid of them
[11:31] <TriGz> Sasuke, try apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:31] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: so ... if we are in a big organization with ssh acces is free to all .. we can't control suspected user?
[11:31] <Sktfeelsdapper> I got rid of the old ones, I just don't know if maybe something I did today screwed it up, or if maybe it's lastfm's fault.
[11:31] <blehblop> but it just wont do it
[11:31] <blehblop> i cant apt-get install anything either
[11:32] <bill> How can i make a program run whne nautilus starts?
[11:32] <Sktfeelsdapper> because whenever i click on anything music or anything the client just hangs.
[11:32] <hockyhair> add to .Xsessions i think
[11:32] <hockyhair> or .xinitrc
[11:32] <Sasuke> hey DarkMageZ
[11:32] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: you could disable his account. are you the admin?
[11:32] <TyRiOn-MX> ya
[11:33] <Sasuke> sun-java5-jre is already the newest version.
[11:33] <califfo> how to know on which package libpython2.4 depends?
[11:33] <Aagni> has anyone tried upgrading dapper to edgy?
[11:33] <Aagni> and succeeded?
[11:33] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: even the admin has no general right to look into the user's data, depending on the laws in your country.
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper_> blehblop: you have broken packages posible: ---> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:33] <renaud> Hello
[11:34] <hockyhair> how come everytime i ask a question in here i am ignored?
[11:34] <_cerberus_> when trying to compile lirc-modules-source using make-kpkg I get a number of errors stating that various header files (including standard ones like stdio.h) cannot be found, how can I fix this?
[11:34] <renaud> you know if, for a turion (K8), is it better to use the 686 or K7 kernel ?
[11:34] <hockyhair> there's a grip of ppl in here how hard is it to acknowledge a person in need of help
[11:34] <TriGz> hockyhair, What is the problem?
[11:34] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: where can i find documentation to this law ... i'm italian
[11:35] <hockyhair> i want to enable dri
[11:35] <hockyhair> direct rendering..
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper_> hockyhair: wild guess people don't know the answer to your question
[11:35] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: i don't know, i am not from italy.
[11:35] <TriGz> hockyhair,  havn't got a clue, sorry.
[11:35] <hockyhair> TheGateKeeper_: it's nice to hear anything, even if it's idk
[11:35] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: mh but maybe you know the name of the law
[11:36] <rhymes> is there a reason why edgy doesn't care if I change the "default" in menu.lst in grub?
[11:36] <hockyhair> !direct rendering
[11:36] <Sasuke> gahh mIRC crashed
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about direct rendering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <rhymes> it simply ignores my change
[11:36] <TriGz> !dri
[11:36] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[11:36] <hockyhair> !dri
[11:36] <LiraNuna> mIRC sucks
[11:36] <LiraNuna> suh
[11:36] <THX-1138> !dri
[11:36] <LiraNuna> *duh
[11:36] <hockyhair> ya.. knew that
[11:36] <hockyhair> great..
[11:36] <hockyhair> :p
[11:36] <Sasuke> yeah but eh
[11:36] <TriGz> mIRC sucks.. Learn 2 x-chat xD
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper_> hockyhair: what do you mean by direct rendering?
[11:36] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: i only know the german term "datenschutz", which is for protecting private data from being seen by others
[11:36] <gyaresu> Hi. Anyone used FLAC for ripping successfully on Dapper. Grip/KaudioCreator can't find the 'flac' binary. I have libflac7 installed.
[11:36] <hockyhair> TheGateKeeper_: direct access to graphics hardware
[11:37] <TriGz> gotta reboot to finish upgrade.
[11:37] <TriGz> Cya soon <33
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper_> hockyhair: there is wiki stuff on nvidia & ati
[11:37] <vm> what is more easier to install .deb or .tar.gz?
[11:38] <gyaresu> vm what is in the tar.gz?
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper_> !ati
[11:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:38] <gyaresu> vm, tar.gz is just like a .zip file.
[11:38] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: if you want to restrict a certain users ssh account, you could set up a chroot environment for him, so he only sees part of the filesystem, but its lot of work.
[11:38] <cherubiel> vm: .des are precompiled, tar.gz typicall cotanins source which you'd have to recomplile
[11:39] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: i think it's not necessary... i asked just to know
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper_> hockyhair complains about being ignored then doesn't hang around long enough for an answer lol
[11:40] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: what exactly do you suspect the user is trying?
[11:42] <gyaresu> Anyone used FLAC for ripping successfully on Dapper. Grip/KaudioCreator can't find the 'flac' binary. I have libflac7 installed.
[11:42] <Asc> Yeargh.  Can or can not IE display .png images acceptably?
[11:42] <THX-1138> I want to start transset - can i create individual application profiles?
[11:42] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: nothing ... i asked how to see his last command ... i can't suspect nothing if i have no way to minimally control him... i have no problem with any user .. i asked only if i can monitor their activities
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> Asc: no, it cannot. IE 7 does it better.
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> but not as good as mozilla
[11:44] <Asc> Hmm.
[11:44] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: then use w, who, ps aux, netstat, ... but all those will give you information about current activities, not recent
[11:44] <TyRiOn-MX> ok
[11:44] <gyaresu> FLAC? Anyone? Anyone use FLAC? For anything. With FLAC'y bits...
[11:45] <THX-1138> FLAC conversion from wma?
[11:45] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: oh, i forgot top  (if someone is doing something cpu or memory intensive)
[11:45] <vm> gyaresu - i have 100GB of cd-ripped flacs
[11:45] <Asc> fyrestartr: so I'm going to have to either convert stuff to .gif or tell IE users to get a real browser
[11:45] <vm> gyaresu - i have 100GB of cd-ripped cdaudios*
[11:45] <Asc> I think I know which option I'm leaning toward
[11:45] <gyaresu> vm and do you use ubuntu 6.06?
[11:45] <vm> yes
[11:46] <vm> !flac
[11:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:46] <Sasuke> when i do the apt-get install java thingy, where does it install it to?
[11:47] <Arafangion> Asc: One of the most significant new features of IE 7 is tabs, and better display of PNG's, particularly with regards to transparency.
[11:47] <TyRiOn-MX> POVaddct: and there is a command to see all the process/application running on my pc and who has launched it?
[11:47] <vm> what does dpkg?
[11:47] <THX-1138> bah - i scoured the 'net to convert wma - everything i saw didn't include source
[11:47] <cherubiel> Sasuke: /usr/lib/java..
[11:47] <POVaddct> TyRiOn-MX: ps auxww
[11:47] <Asc> Arafangion: do you know if it's going to support .svg format?
[11:47] <Sasuke> theres nothing in there
[11:48] <Sasuke> bash: cd: /usr/lib/java: No such file or directory
[11:48] <cherubiel> Sasuke: thats because yo've not isntalled it??
[11:48] <tyuio> is the release date for edgy 6th of october?
[11:48] <cherubiel> no, its not java it would be java-1.5.0-something
[11:49] <variant> davvs_: hi mate :)
[11:49] <davvs_> hello :D
[11:49] <ardchoille> On a new install I always do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and it seems to work. I see others doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" (adding -phigh), what does that do?
[11:49] <cafuego> sun-java5-jre
[11:49] <POVaddct> hey, this new optical usb mouse is cool... it fades to different colors with its LED :)
[11:49] <Sasuke> no sun-java5-jre
[11:49] <Sasuke> there is a jre
[11:50] <Arafangion> Asc: Not sure, what I do know is that one can make some very impressive sites with ie7, similar to that which you can do with the css zen garden for firefox, but the code will be different, and likely incompatible.
[11:50] <Sasuke> jvm*
[11:50] <cherubiel> Sasuke: Ok so whats the problem?
[11:50] <Sasuke> i'm trying to find where it is
[11:50] <cherubiel> Sasuke: have you installed it using apt or synaptic ?
[11:50] <Arafangion> Asc: Basically, ie7 is a huge improvement over ie6, but it's a disrespectful joke to all web devs.
[11:51] <Sasuke> apt
[11:51] <tyuio> ie7 still doesn't support svg afaik
[11:51] <Asc> Arafangion: I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
[11:51] <omegacat> when in doubt, reinstall ubuntu
[11:51] <gnomefreak> guys if you would like to talk about windows please join #windows or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:52] <Arafangion> Asc: I'm putting all my money on that it's going to become crucially important for good ASP.NEt
[11:52] <Arafangion> gnomefreak: So, what _are_ we going to call firefox?
[11:52] <Sasuke> cherubiel i used apt-get
[11:52] <stuh84> araf: just installed the ATI drivers, now we are in clone mode. I've changed to big desktop in the ATI Config gui, and in the aticonfig terminal command, and still nothing
[11:52] <POVaddct> "the browser formerly known as ..."
[11:53] <gnomefreak> Arafangion: ff in ubuntu for support is fine here. 1 this is not a general chat 2 stay on topic (windows is not on topic)
[11:53] <cherubiel> Sasuke: good, so you should have the java installed in /usr/lib/java something , can you let me the full oath?
[11:53] <tyuio> haha
[11:53] <Arafangion> stuh84: Is this a laptop?
[11:53] <cherubiel> path*
[11:53] <stuh84> araf: yeah
[11:53] <padee> Hi. Does anyone know how to make a BT Headset (Ovislink) running under ubuntu?
[11:53] <Arafangion> stuh84: Just so you know, some laptops don't support anything more than just cloning.
[11:53] <stuh84> it supports it in XP so thats not the problem
[11:53] <Arafangion> stuh84: But try changing the option using aticonfig, then restart X11.
[11:53] <Sasuke> nope but theres a /usr/java/ and in there it only has java.bin
[11:53] <stuh84> araf: already tried changing it in aticonfig
[11:54] <cherubiel> Sasuke: /usr/lib/java-1.5.0-java-1.5.0.xx
[11:54] <Arafangion> stuh84: Then you're stuffed. :(  I'm going to eat dinner now.
[11:54] <stuh84> have fun :)
[11:54] <stuh84> i'll see if i can work out a way to do it
[11:54] <padee> I tried already the ALSA stuff... but it's somehow not working....
[11:55] <Sasuke> bash: cd: /usr/lib/java-1.5.0-java-1.5.0: No such file or directory
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Sasuke: install sun-java5-plugin it will grab everything you need
[11:56] <Sasuke> cherubiel not a registered user no can pm
[11:57] <Sasuke> okay sun-java5-plugin is installed now where is it :p
[11:57] <porkpie> how do you just install the base server OS ....it's installing at the moment but it seems to be install all of the packages ??
[11:57] <vm> what other interesting # are on this server?
[11:59] <apecat> hmm, when will the restricted-modules-package include the new ATI ver. 8.29.6 driver?
[11:59] <DeeTahPanLtah> why in my ubuntu's firefox there is no sound in any of swf files?
[11:59] <stuh84> YAY DUAL DESKTOPS WORKING
[12:00] <stuh84> beautiful
[12:00] <tyuio> !flash
[12:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <DeeTahPanLtah> yah
[12:00] <DeeTahPanLtah> those links will really help me.
[12:00] <LeonWP> hi
[12:00] <Sasuke> okay sun-java5-plugin is installed now where is it :p
[12:00] <LeonWP> I'm bootstrapping ubuntu
[12:00] <LeonWP> and from inside the chroot I get http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3936/
[12:00] <LeonWP> any ideas?
[12:00] <tyuio> actually i'm using them to help me
[12:00] <tyuio> because my flash sound is delayed
[12:00] <tyuio> ;p
[12:02] <crazy1> hello
[12:02] <LeonWP> I get this when running any other dpkg-reconfigure, too
[12:02] <crazy1> anybody play wow on ubuntu?
[12:03] <cpk2> crazy1: if you are trying to get it to work i do believe there is a wiki entry on how to get wow to play on ubuntu
[12:04] <crazy1> ok ta
[12:04] <gnomefreak> !wow
[12:04] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[12:04] <Sasuke> it works, thanks guys
[12:04] <cyber_brain_mfkg> is maya for linux free software and where can i download it???
[12:05] <gnomefreak> maya for linux?
[12:05] <cyber_brain_mfkg> yes
[12:05] <wickedpuppy> not free
[12:05] <cyber_brain_mfkg> there is maya 4 linux
[12:05] <crazy1> u think so?
[12:05] <wickedpuppy> there is but not free i think
[12:05] <cyber_brain_mfkg> yes
[12:06] <gnomefreak> cyber_brain_mfkg: i have never heard of a maya version being for linux but im pretty sure it wouldnt be free in any sense of the word
[12:06] <cyber_brain_mfkg> one friend of mine has it
[12:06] <cpk2> most certainly not free
[12:06] <cyber_brain_mfkg> version 6 and 7
[12:06] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, there is personal free version of maya for windows
[12:06] <crazy1> i'm just starting on ubuntu i never used it before
[12:06] <wickedpuppy> but not for linux
[12:06] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy: is it free as in no cost? or free as in opensource?
[12:06] <crazy1> i'm pi** off about windows xp
[12:07] <wickedpuppy> crazy1, started using ubuntu or started using linux ?
[12:07] <cyber_brain_mfkg> do you know where i can download it???
[12:07] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, its free as in beer :P
[12:07] <phet> hello, anyone uses aterm? how can I change the font color?
[12:07] <crazy1> istalling on my notebook now =)
[12:07] <wickedpuppy> cyber_brain_mfkg, download maya for linux ?
[12:08] <wickedpuppy> btw maya is screwed cause autodesk bought alias ...
[12:08] <wickedpuppy> which is really sad ... i like maya
[12:08] <cyber_brain_mfkg> wickedpuppy: yes! do yu know where i can find it?
[12:08] <cyber_brain_mfkg> *you
[12:08] <wickedpuppy> cyber_brain_mfkg, trial version ? maya.com ? don't they have it ?
[12:09] <ardchoille> !info maya
[12:09] <ubotu> Package maya does not exist in any distro I know
[12:09] <crazy1> i hop ubuntu like my notebook
[12:09] <wickedpuppy> ardchoille, maya is not free ...
[12:09] <ardchoille> wickedpuppy: ah
[12:09] <wickedpuppy> oh its alias.com
[12:09] <wickedpuppy> lol
[12:09] <cyber_brain_mfkg> wickedpuppy: there must be pirat versions of it on web
[12:09] <cyber_brain_mfkg> :D
[12:09] <wickedpuppy> cyber_brain_mfkg, i can't help ya there
[12:10] <wickedpuppy> if you are not leet enough to find pirated software then you are not leet enough to talk to me ... LOL
[12:10] <cyber_brain_mfkg> wickedpuppy: i bought book 4 learning maya and i don't want to install windows
[12:10] <crazy1> i tell u one thing ubuntu easy to install
[12:10] <ardchoille> I wouldn't trust a pirate version of anything
[12:10] <idefix> how do linux users open eml-files?
[12:11] <cpk2> i am pretty sure almost no one pays for cedega heh
[12:11] <cyber_brain_mfkg> look i can order it from one serbian site but i don't have a credit card! it cost about 1 euro! :D
[12:11] <ardchoille> cpk2: Well, you can get cedega from cvs
[12:11] <gnomefreak> cyber_brain_mfkg: maybe try http://www.k-3d.org/wiki/Features instead of maya
[12:12] <cyber_brain_mfkg> and i couldn't find anything on the web
[12:13] <wickedpuppy> cyber_brain_mfkg, clearly you never used google ...
[12:13] <idefix> wickedpuppu, cyber_brain_mfkg is very intelligent
[12:14] <wickedpuppy> yet can't find one 3d software ? i would believe if the package in question is softice
[12:15] <kent> how do i view pdf's inside firefox?
[12:15] <ShadeT> kent, open with evince
[12:16] <ShadeT> /usr/bin/evince
[12:16] <kent> ShadeT: firefox already open them with evince,  but I want them to be loaded inside firefox like a plugin.. not to be opened in a new popup window.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> kent: im sure there is a plugin just give me a minute to find the name
[12:17] <ShadeT> Why?  So if that plugin suddenly crashes it takes down firefox also?
[12:17] <ShadeT> :)
[12:18] <kent> ShadeT: its my father who wants firefox on ubuntu to behave just like firefox did on windows,  where I assume he had adobe to watch the pdf's.
[12:19] <Shadowpillar> kent: there's an adobe plugin for linux
[12:19] <gnomefreak> kent: mozilla-acroread
[12:19] <ShadeT> Yea.  sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins
[12:19] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[12:19] <assasukasse> i have a small problem with edgy
[12:19] <assasukasse> and my lap
[12:19] <kent> Shadowpillar: gnomefreak  but I dont want adobe on my system,  I want evince and firefox to just open it inside firefox.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> assasukasse: join #ubuntu+1
[12:20] <assasukasse> thanks
[12:20] <skeeers> hey hey
[12:20] <gnomefreak> kent: its not gonna happen like that
[12:20] <ardchoille> assasukasse: You might also want to /join #ubuntu+1
[12:20] <cpk2> wow your father didnt mind replacing windows with linux?
[12:20] <skeeers> I was using Gaim and MSN, and my modem hung up and now I canot connect back into MSN, says server error!  Anyone have any ideas why?
[12:20] <kent> gnomefreak: why not?  firefox can embedd totem, mplayer etc,  why not evince?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> kent: try mozplugger than if anything does it thats it
[12:21] <gnomefreak> kent: i dont remember if it does pdf though
[12:21] <cpk2> skeeers: maybe msn thinks you are still logged in?
[12:21] <skeeers> cpk2: no idea
[12:21] <skeeers> cpk2: what do you recommend I do?
[12:22] <sexcopter8000> hi, what does apt-get autoremove actually do?
[12:22] <kent> gnomefreak: i did try mozplugger just recently  but it had a configuration-file in m4 or something which was more than I wanted to do. I just want to check "Embedd inside firefox" buttons,  not learn a new script language :)
[12:22] <cpk2> skeeers: you will time out after a while
[12:22] <skeeers> cpk2: so I should wait?
[12:23] <kent> i guess I have to install adobe acroreader then.  thanks all
[12:23] <gnomefreak> kent: apt-cache search pdf  but i already did it and im telling you you wont find what you are looking for
[12:24] <kent> gnomefreak: i went with mozilla-acroread then.  it should work like expected.. i belive
[12:24] <ompaul> gnomefreak, what is he looking for?
[12:24] <ompaul> what is wrong with evince?
[12:24] <Adminius> hi
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ompaul: he wants ff to open the pdf
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ompaul: he doesnt want acroread
[12:24] <michael_> hey guys
[12:25] <ompaul> gnomefreak, ahhh
[12:25] <Adminius> can you tell me if cedega works with ubuntu?
[12:25] <crazy1> mmm allready on 82% for 5min? is that normal wickedpuppy
[12:25] <wickedpuppy> ?
[12:26] <michael_> i got a problemn with fglrx can someone help me?
[12:26] <crazy1> install ubuntu
[12:26] <crazy1> installing"
[12:26] <ompaul> Adminius, it is suggested that it does, however as it is a third party app we don't support it here you have to ask cedega for help with it
[12:26] <ompaul> Adminius, when I say suggested a lot of people talk about using it, I personally don't
[12:27] <cpk2> Adminius: i think you would be surprised with how well wine works
[12:27] <printk> I use wine for my online poker (only windows game i play), works great here
[12:28] <cpk2> i think the only problem with wine is that it can be hard to work around copy protection
[12:28] <David> does anyone know how to get a canon ip2000 printer working with ubuntu
[12:28] <cpk2> whereas cedega actually pays the companies to be able to get winex to work with copy protection
[12:28] <Lattyware> Hey, can anyone help me, I'm trying to compile RTSensors from source (No packages) and I just get errors.
[12:29] <printk> Lattyware: did you check the readme to make sure you have all the dependencies required to even build it?  i.e. are you getting alot of missing "file.h" errors?
[12:30] <Adminius> where does wine save the games?i cant find the directory
[12:30] <ompaul> Lattyware, why not use the packages lm-sensors - the other way lies pain beyond the help an IRC channel can give
[12:30] <Lattyware> no, I'm getting a couple of hundred of this:
[12:30] <Lattyware> rtsensors.c:422: error: request for member prefix in something not a structure or union
[12:30] <Lattyware> ompaul: I have lm-sensors, rtsensors is a control app that uses it.
[12:30] <Almindor> if I want to install the edgy beta on a  second disk on second partition and have the bootloader put on the second disk only, I need to use alternate right?
[12:31] <cpk2> Adminius: .wine/drive_c/Program Files or something like that i believe
[12:31] <porkpie> guy's would this be the same for the latest iso server image Alt+F2
[12:31] <porkpie> chroot /target
[12:31] <porkpie> echo "megaraid_sas" >> /etc/mkinitramfs/modules
[12:31] <porkpie> mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-server 2.6.15-23-server
[12:31] <porkpie> exit
[12:31] <porkpie> Alt+F1
[12:31] <porkpie> i.e the initrd.img name ?
[12:32] <EmxBA> hi
[12:32] <EmxBA> i'm doing ubuntu remaster test
[12:32] <ompaul> EmxBA, your irc client works :)
[12:32] <EmxBA> and i need to mount devices - when i try to mount cd it says special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[12:32] <EmxBA> like /dev is not mounted
[12:32] <EmxBA> ?
[12:32] <EmxBA> like erm...
[12:32] <Adminius> i cant find the directory,but thats not important.when does the new ubuntu version come out?
[12:32] <EmxBA> like /proc wasn't mounted and i mounted it
[12:33] <EmxBA> so
[12:33] <EmxBA> how do i mount devices?  :S
[12:33] <ompaul> Adminius, 20th Oct is when it is due
[12:33] <ompaul> Adminius, check back closer to that time
[12:33] <Adminius> ok thanks
[12:33] <EmxBA> ompaul: can you help me?
[12:33] <Tunic_> So, who wants to help me with an ltsp issue?
[12:34] <EmxBA> anyone?
[12:34] <strike> hi, is there any limit specified for download speed in ubuntu server system?
[12:34] <cpk2> Adminius: .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/ that would be the exact path wine installs to
[12:34] <ompaul> EmxBA, looks like you broke your rebuild, the bottom line is that you appear to have left something out as udev should automagically work with devices - that is now it is designed
[12:34] <EmxBA> i haven't broke anything :)
[12:34] <ompaul> Tunic_, have you asked in #edubuntu they are working with that I believe
[12:35] <EmxBA> i'm doing remaster according to http://wiki.oss-watch.ac.uk/UbuntuDapper/Remaster
[12:35] <EmxBA> ompaul
[12:35] <ompaul> EmxBA, not something I ever did
[12:35] <Tunic_> ompaul: there seems to be no traffic in #ubuntu, but I shall try there.
[12:35] <EmxBA> ompaul: hm....how can i fix this?
[12:36] <Tunic_> errr #edubuntu rather
[12:36] <ompaul> EmxBA, that is not one of our documents I don't know it and I have not remastered ubuntu myself
[12:36] <ompaul> EmxBA, so I never saw it before
[12:36] <EmxBA> ah
[12:36] <EmxBA> let me follow ubuntu remaster guide from wiki ;)
[12:37] <ompaul> EmxBA, I don't know that it exists if you find it please give me the url I want to tell the factoid bot about it
[12:37] <ompaul> ahhh
[12:38] <idefix> should you document all futuristic dreams and thoughts you have in your brain?
[12:39] <crazy1> SOS internet down HELP
[12:39] <LiraNuna> ZOMG
[12:39] <ompaul> crazy1, not here, must be your end
[12:39] <crazy1> lmao
[12:39] <crazy1> i installed ubuntu and network card is not working i think
[12:40] <crazy1> not sure
[12:40] <ompaul> idefix, stick them on paper and don't use a computer cos mine says there won't be the power to run the computer
[12:40] <crazy1> CONFUSED
[12:40] <skeeers> crazy1: you are CRAZY DUDE!
[12:40] <LiraNuna> crazy1, THIS IS TEH INTERWEBS
[12:40] <LiraNuna> WELCOME!
[12:40] <ompaul> !shout
[12:40] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:40] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:40] <LiraNuna> lol
[12:40] <printk> !enter
[12:40] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:40] <printk> :P
[12:40] <LiraNuna> !lol
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <ompaul> !botabuse
[12:41] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:41] <LiraNuna> Please don't use the word "lol"
[12:41] <crazy1> anybody waner help?
[12:41] <crazy1> crazy - confused
[12:41] <printk> crazy1: is your nic found/loaded by the kernel?  i.e. is your proper kernel module loaded?
[12:41] <ompaul> crazy1, did you actually install them?
[12:41] <crazy1> well tell me how...lol
[12:41] <crazy1> sorry for the lol
[12:42] <crazy1> <-new
[12:42] <crazy1> to ubuntu
[12:42] <printk> crazy1: what network card do you have?
[12:42] <EmxBA> and one more thing
[12:43] <crazy1> i find out wait a sec
[12:43] <EmxBA> i would like to delete en_GB locale and install bosnian
[12:43] <EmxBA> and to delete all other locales
[12:43] <David> i need help to get a printer working
[12:43] <EmxBA> how can i do that? ompaul? :D
[12:43] <ompaul> EmxBA, just make sure your locale is in there - I don't know how to remove others, and it is better to have more locales
[12:44] <EmxBA> ah
[12:44] <EmxBA> can i do that trough the graphical tool?
[12:44] <ompaul> EmxBA, no
[12:44] <EmxBA> so how?
[12:45] <inpherno> hey, i want to convert my filesystem to reiser... can i do it without erasing the data in the partition?
[12:45] <printk> inpherno: you can't, backup.
[12:45] <inpherno> oh, you sure? i have windows installed, so can boot into that and run any necessary utils to do it
[12:46] <inpherno> is it just cause the filesystems are so different?
[12:46] <printk> inpherno: no method I know of.  The best and cleanest way to do it would be to tar up the old partition, re-format it as reiserfs and untar your backup to the new partition
[12:46] <inpherno> and that wouldnt break my install right?
[12:47] <printk> well i'd do it from a livecd
[12:47] <printk> depending on what partitions you want to reformat
[12:48] <ompaul> EmxBA, learn to hack it more what is in that file ... CD/isolinux/isolinux.cfg
[12:48] <ompaul> ahh
[12:48] <printk> if you're doing /home or anything not vital to the OS, then you're fine to do it normal.  But if you're going to change /usr or anything, use a livecd.  And if done right, it should not break your install.  Also remember to change /etc/fstab
[12:48] <inpherno> hmm... actually i'll just reinstall ubuntu, and leave my /home partition as it is
[12:48] <printk> breakfast, lol i never put that together
[12:48] <inpherno> and worry about that after :)
[12:49] <ompaul> printk, just to let you know I am not here for help :-(
[12:49] <printk> ompaul: :P
[12:49] <printk> inpherno: yah that's a great method, i do that.
[12:50] <inpherno> ya, thats prolly one of the coolest things i've come accros with linux, can install a whole different distro and not really have to configure much
[12:51] <crazy1> hey printk!
[12:51] <printk> heya crazy1
[12:51] <crazy1> my notebook comes with linux drivers!!!
[12:51] <inpherno> woah
[12:51] <crazy1> i love it
[12:51] <printk> oh ok, do they also come with instructions on how to install them?
[12:52] <crazy1> no
[12:52] <inpherno> meh, linux users dont need instructions!
[12:52] <printk> i'm not sure
[12:52] <inpherno> :)
[12:52] <inpherno> bye for now
[12:52] <printk> inpherno: well 3rd party drivers can be bleh sometimes, firmware here... this there... :P
[12:53] <crazy1> i got a file called install-8_16b.tar.bz2
[12:55] <georgeofthejungl> hi there
[12:55] <crazy1> what do i do with it?
[12:56] <waxfactor2nd> noone answers one this thread so ill ask here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1565624#post1565624
[12:56] <waxfactor2nd>  this is from the post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268837 but i was a dead end so i want help...
[12:56] <waxfactor2nd> hi ive never used linux before, but everyone have to start at onepoint. ive chosen ubuntu to try, but i want to dual boot with windowsxp. ive done as ive been guided, first installed windows xp on hdd 0partition 1, then ive taken ubuntu and taken use the largest continuousfree space and installed it. there where no problems. but when i nowreboot my computer,it says grub loader 1.5
[12:56] <rambo3> open and see if there is readme file there
[12:56] <Lattyware> Can anyone please help me with this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25397
[12:56] <inpherno> doh, looks like first i've gotta look for my ubuntu CD
[12:56] <Lattyware> I am trying to compile RTSensors.
[12:57] <peak> is there anyone in here who is involved in some way to the ubuntu project?
[12:57] <Tunic_> well, after trying here, #kubuntu, and #edubuntu, it seems nobody who is awake is able to help me. *sigh*
[12:57] <rambo3> i guess you are missing kernel-headers
[12:57] <georgeofthejungl> i wanted a question about ubuntu
[12:57] <georgeofthejungl> i think it is a very good distro
[12:58] <unfknblvbl> nuh only a bunch of nubs have ubuntu installed
[12:58] <georgeofthejungl> but it is using a i386 kernel for "compatibility" but dapper cant run on a cel700+128ram
[12:58] <unfknblvbl> :-D
[12:58] <georgeofthejungl> i think the low-power pcs like pentium1 & co
[12:58] <TriGz> Is there any way i can view the music on my ipod?
[12:58] <cpk2> !ipod
[12:58] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:59] <peak> erm...heh....well anyways...
[12:59] <georgeofthejungl> will never run with gnome and
[12:59] <TriGz> Thanks <3
[12:59] <Lattyware> rambo3: Nope, I have kernel-headers installed
[12:59] <georgeofthejungl> for fluxbuntu/xubuntu its okay it canrun on low machines. but dapper desktop??
[12:59] <georgeofthejungl> it needs a minimum 256mb of RAM
[12:59] <peak> i just got my Kubuntu cd in the mail....and i wanna try to thank someone for it...
[01:00] <georgeofthejungl> and, thats my question
[01:00] <MrDarcy> woohoo
[01:00] <MrDarcy> finally got beryl running
[01:00] <cpk2> georgeofthejungl: both of those are ubuntu distros...
[01:00] <unfknblvbl> your welcome peak
[01:00] <MrDarcy> mmmmm
[01:00] <MrDarcy> shiny
[01:00] <VincentMX> can anybody help me with installing the ati driver? i tried using the wiki page, but that doesnt work
[01:00] <dark_light> georgeofthejungl, well you can install the 'default' ubuntu dapper and then install xubuntu on top of it
[01:00] <georgeofthejungl> why not using a 686 kernel for gnome and kde version ?
[01:00] <Lattyware> Can anyone please help me with compiling RTSensors, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25397
[01:00] <TriGz> !ipod
[01:00] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[01:01] <unfknblvbl> whats this beryl thing MrDarcy ?
[01:01] <RawSewage> How do you convert .vob files to xvid
[01:01] <georgeofthejungl> dark_light: okay i know that but... for 686 kernel its minimum Pentium3 no ?
[01:01] <peak> its been too long since i've thought about linux...and a few months ago i started looking around....ran into ubuntu....forgot about it...but now i got this cd...
[01:01] <dark_light> georgeofthejungl, yes, i think
[01:01] <toml> anyone speaks german here and can help me with the ATI Driver? pls query me
[01:01] <dark_light> georgeofthejungl, but ubuntu desktop doesn't come with 686 kernel.. i think
[01:02] <unfknblvbl> !de
[01:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:02] <cpk2> georgeofthejungl: ubunutu uses 386
[01:02] <georgeofthejungl> dark_light :so why the ubuntu developers include it ? i know you must recompile all but why not a 686edition and386 edition
[01:02] <peak> and its about damn time of me...but i dont think i would have ever gotten back into this community if it wasnt for that CD geting mailed to me ...
[01:02] <georgeofthejungl> because installing a new kernel  is hard for newb I think
[01:03] <cpk2> georgeofthejungl: then they would have to have seperate repos for the 686
[01:03] <dark_light> georgeofthejungl, no, installing a new kernel is just a matter of doing apt-get
[01:03] <VincentMX> Toml: ich bin vincent und ich speak kein dauts
[01:03] <dark_light> georgeofthejungl, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686, then reboot
[01:03] <VincentMX> something tells me that wasnt proper grammar
[01:03] <peak> so....to anyone who this concerns, or applys to: thank you so much for the free cd, without it i might not have ever re-discovered linux...much appreciated..
[01:05] <Lattyware> Could someone help me, I'm trying to compile RTSensors, And have now managed to get the errors down to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25398/
[01:05] <Lattyware> peak: Thank you for joining the linux community :P
[01:05] <crazy1> spechen see deutsch?
[01:05] <rambo3> !stdlibs
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stdlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> Lattyware: have you run ./configure on it already?
[01:07] <crazy1> how do u log in as root?
[01:07] <TriGz> Is there any way to mount my windows partitions into linux? ^^
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> crazy1: you don't. Use sudo.
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > TriGz
[01:07] <Lattyware> fyrestrtr: No, but there is no configure.
[01:07] <TriGz> !ntfs
[01:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:07] <fyrestrtr> !sudo > crazy1
[01:08] <crazy1> HOW?
[01:08] <TriGz> !fuse > TriGz
[01:08] <fyrestrtr> !sudo
[01:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:08] <nickspoon> and if you want a root terminal, 'sudo su'.
[01:08] <fyrestrtr> ermm, sudo -i is better for that
[01:09] <cpk2> or sudo bash
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> Lattyware: what do you get when you try ./configure ?
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> sudo -i > sudo bash
[01:09] <Lattyware> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:09] <cpk2> whats the difference?
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> cpk2: environment variables.
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> Lattyware: then it seems there is an error in the code itself.
[01:10] <Lattyware> ...
[01:10] <crazy1> can someone just tell me what i need to put in to get in ad "root" in console
[01:10] <Lattyware> Well that's good news :?
[01:10] <Lattyware> *:/
[01:10] <crazy1> just tell me what to put in
[01:10] <fyrestrtr> Lattyware: you can try one thing, install libcurses4
[01:11] <crazy1> i can't even be on the net
[01:11] <crazy1> installing network card
[01:11] <ifrozen> hi
[01:11] <ifrozen> !offtopic
[01:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:11] <cpk2> crazy1: we just did
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> crazy1: three people told you.
[01:12] <crazy1> well can u tell me step by step plz
[01:12] <waxfactor2nd> im sorry for spamming / but i just posted that here / im very sorry / can anyone help me in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1565624#post1565624 / i really need help
[01:12] <webofunni> crazy1: put sudo -i
[01:12] <Lattyware> fyrestrtr: I cannot find that package.
[01:12] <fyrestrtr> !info libcurses4
[01:12] <ubotu> Package libcurses4 does not exist in any distro I know
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> !info libncurses4
[01:13] <ubotu> libncurses4: Shared libraries for terminal handling. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.2-10 (dapper), package size 185 kB, installed size 400 kB (Only available for alpha arm i386 m68k powerpc sparc)
[01:13] <crazy1> thankx
[01:13] <crazy1> worked
[01:13] <Lattyware> ah
[01:13] <fyrestrtr> waxfactor2nd: can you describe the problem?
[01:15] <Lattyware> fyrestrtr: Bingo, I think that worked, thanks.
[01:15] <Adminius> how do i configure gdesklets,to run automaticly when ubuntu starts?
[01:15] <peak> THANKS AGAIN FOR THE FREE KUBUNTU CD in the mail.....it is definatly appreciated....thanks a lot to whomever may have had to do with it / deserves a Thanks....
[01:16] <Lattyware> fyrestrtr: That worked, thanks
[01:17] <TriGz> Hmm
[01:17] <TriGz> Can anyone help me with Mounting my Windows partitions.. (please dont do the whole ! thing.. it didnt work :P)
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> Adminius: system > preferences > sessions and then startup tab.
[01:18] <_georgjungle_> again for the about 686vs386 discussion
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[01:18] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:18] <TriGz> I hate you :P
[01:18] <ompaul> TriGz, the ! think works for 99.999999% of peopel why not :-)
[01:18] <cpk2> hahaha
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> :D
[01:18] <TriGz> I'm the whole. 00.000001% :)
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> describe the problem.
[01:18] <fyrestrtr> and then ... maybe ... I'll help.
[01:19] <_georgjungle_> i know that the 686 kernel is installable by a simple apt-get
[01:19] <ompaul> TriGz, well being in that space, you whould as fyrestrtr said describe the issue, in detail on one line
[01:19] <cpk2> TriGz: nothing like people self educating themselves =D
[01:19] <_georgjungle_> but not with nvidia drivers
[01:19] <fyrestrtr> _georgjungle_: what do you want to discuss? If its not support related (as in, I want to install it) -- please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:20] <TriGz> Basicly. I do the automatic version, ect ect. It shows all partitions but my windows one :(
[01:20] <rambo3> use fdisk to list them
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: you just want to be able to see the partitions and copy files, or write to them as well?
[01:21] <webofunni> is there any way other than synaptic manager to install vlc player in ubuntu 6.06
[01:21] <TriGz> Just view them/use them
[01:21] <TriGz> :P
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> webofunni: sure, but what's the problem with synaptic?
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: do you see them in system > administration > disks ?
[01:22] <TriGz> yeas
[01:22] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, yes i do ;d
[01:22] <ompaul> TriGz, what did you mean by "automatic"
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: and you just want to mount them?
[01:23] <webofunni> fyrestrtr: can you pls explain alternative method
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: do you see them on your desktop? What is the output of lsb_release -a ?
[01:23] <cpk2> webofunni: build from source
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> webofunni: first tell me what is wrong with synaptic and why you are unable to install.
[01:23] <Temporo> Yo.
[01:24] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, i don't see them on my desktop no.
[01:24] <ompaul> webofunni, try System Administration Synaptic - it has access to about 20,000 programs when it is configured
[01:24] <Fackamato> hi guys
[01:24] <Fackamato> running edgy eft here, and in firefox I can't drag n drop tabs to the bookmark field
[01:24] <ompaul> !edgy
[01:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:25] <Fackamato> thanks
[01:25] <webofunni> my dial up connection is too slow to install vlc by synaptic
[01:25] <ompaul> Fackamato, guess you need to be in #ubuntu+1 ;-)
[01:25] <Arafangion> webofunni: I don't think it is.
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> webofunni: you will have to download it either way.
[01:25] <Arafangion> webofunni: Rather, synaptic isn't the problem.
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> !info vlc
[01:25] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[01:25] <rambo3> iceweasel ?
[01:25] <Fackamato> ompaul, yeah, thanks
[01:25] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, how do i find the output of lsb_release -a?
[01:25] <Ovy> help needed installing ubuntu
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> its 7620 kB
[01:26] <ompaul> TriGz, click on appplications, accessories, terminal and type in there
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: open a terminal, and type lsb_release -a in it.
[01:26] <tyuio> it downloads them all at once though right?
[01:26] <Arafangion> webofunni: It's just downloading it like any other package.  The problem could be your dialup connection actually timing out, or whatever.
[01:26] <tyuio> yeah
[01:26] <tyuio> i'm on dial up and it kills my connection sometimes when multiple packages are downloaded
[01:26] <webofunni> Arafangion: is there any think can i done to install vlc offline
[01:26] <raghu206> !aiglx
[01:26] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[01:26] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, 6.06.1 LTS / dapper
[01:27] <Arafangion> webofunni: Fundamentally, you have to /get/ the packages.
[01:27] <raghu206> !xgl
[01:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: okay, and how many drives do you have in the system?
[01:27] <Arafangion> webofunni: You can install specific packages using dpkg -i package.deb
[01:27] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, erm.. 1
[01:27] <Ovy> I get a blinking cursor thing after starting the live cd , similar to picking a higer resolution than supported
[01:27] <Ovy> help
[01:27] <Arafangion> webofunni: But you also then have to manually get the dependencies, and install those as well.
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: okay, in System > Administration > Disks -- how many partitions do you see in the Partitions tabl?
[01:27] <ompaul> webofunni, maybe visit amazon.com and buy the set of CDs from there
[01:28] <Arafangion> That'd be the best.
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> Ovy: what is the configuration of your system?
[01:28] <Arafangion> Or buy a magazine when they have the Debian DVD or something.
[01:28] <TriGz> 3
[01:28] <waxfactor2nd> sry i was to late but it all says in the trhead
[01:28] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, 3.. Partition 1 (windows) 5 linux, and a swap
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: what are they?
[01:28] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, pastebin?
[01:28] <Ovy> 128 MB ram amd duron
[01:29] <webofunni> Arafangion: i know it is the problem of my Internet connection i need to know if there is any alternative method to install
[01:29] <webofunni> Arafangion: from where can i get vlc.deb packages
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: click on the windows one, what does it say in 'Status' ?
[01:29] <Arafangion> Ovy: We're worried about the graphics card.
[01:29] <ompaul> Arafangion, ehh no, mixing ubuntu with debian is not optional
[01:29] <TriGz> Accessible
[01:29] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, Accessible ^^
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> webofunni: any method you chose, you have to download things.
[01:29] <Ovy> what should I do?
[01:29] <Arafangion> ompaul: Indeed, I was implying that one could just install Debian. :)
[01:29] <haydenAU> go the broncos
[01:29] <Spy> Hi, i'm new in linux world and i think i need to insmod usbnet to make my usb cable modem to work on HDD installation... does anyone could help me pl ?
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: what does it say next to Access Path ?
[01:29] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, /media/hda1
[01:29] <ompaul> Arafangion, can you imagine the "help me I used to use ubuntu in #debian" ? naaaa
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: then that's where it is :)
[01:30] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, any way to make a shortcut or something to desktop? xD
[01:30] <Arafangion> ompaul: Self elitist bastards, indeed.
[01:30] <webofunni> ompaul: is they are giving debian packages of mediaplayers
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: their channel topic states, very loudly, THIS IS NOT #ubuntu! :)
[01:30] <waxfactor2nd> fyrestrtr im sorry where afk / the problem is in the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1565624#post1565624 plz can you help me / when i wrote the problem in here i got disc because off spamming / so ill just ask you to read the llink / plz i really want the computer to work again
[01:30] <ompaul> !language
[01:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:30] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, is there any way i can direct to that folder via terminal? i tried CD /media/hd1, but that failed miserably :(
[01:30] <ompaul> webofunni, don't even go there
[01:30] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: it should show up on the desktop automatically, strange it doesn't.
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: its cd not CD
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: Linux is case sensitive.
[01:31] <Arafangion> fyrestrtr: Indeed, though, the statement of discussion is "used to use".
[01:31] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, oh.. i know :P
[01:31] <waxfactor2nd> fyrestrtr im sorry where afk / the problem is in the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1565624#post1565624 plz can you help me / when i wrote the problem in here i got disc because off spamming / so ill just ask you to read the llink / plz i really want the computer to work again
[01:31] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, any way i can make it show on desktop?
[01:31] <fyrestrtr> waxfactor2nd: stop repeating please.
[01:31] <waxfactor2nd> kk sry didnt think you saw it
[01:31] <Arafangion> TriGz: Mac OS X is case insensitive, but case preserving, and I haven't a clue what windows does, but it's definetly not case preserving.
[01:32] <vanberge> lol... this channel so busy.
[01:32] <ompaul> TriGz, you have to have it avialble first
[01:32] <TriGz> ompaul, it is availible.
[01:32] <ompaul> TriGz, then what is its /mount name?
[01:32] <TriGz> ompaul, how do i find the name??
[01:33] <sri999> can anyone guide how to play MP3 songs in ubuntu
[01:33] <webofunni> fyrestrtr: if there is other way to download i can do it in a cafe.Is there any other way of download
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: type 'mount' (without quotes) in a terminal.
[01:33] <ompaul> the access path is what I am looking for what is written in there
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> !mp3 > sri999
[01:33] <ompaul> TriGz,  the access path is what I am looking for what is written in there
[01:33] <fyrestrtr> webofunni: sure, just download the .deb file.
[01:33] <TriGz> ompaul, /media/hda1 ?
[01:34] <Arafangion> webofunni: And all it's dependencies.
[01:34] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, if the folder im trying to get into via terminal has a space.. what do i use to fill in the space? :P
[01:34] <ompaul> TriGz, in a terminal type this ln -s /media/hda1 /Desktop/ntfs
[01:34] <Arafangion> TriGz: escape the space with \.
[01:34] <Arafangion> TriGz: For example, to edit a file with a space in vim: vim some\ file\ with\ spaces.txt
[01:35] <TriGz> ompaul,  doesn.t show up.
[01:35] <ompaul> TriGz, sorry that was wrong I do it again
[01:35] <TriGz> ompaul,  Ok. :)
[01:35] <ompaul> TriGz,  ln -s /media/hda1 /home/your-user-name/Desktop/ntfs
[01:35] <sri999> can any one tell how to convert mp3 to oggvorbis
[01:35] <Arafangion> TriGz: Alternatively, just hit tab, and most shells will auto-complete as much as they can. :)
[01:35] <Spy> does anyone could help me to setup my internet connection in Ubuntu LTS 6.06.1 desktop please ?  ( On Live-CD it work automaticaly but not on installation )
[01:35] <sri999> can anyone send tht converter s/w to me
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: two thing either put it in quotes cd "/home/some huge folder/" or escape it cd /home/some\ huge\ folder/
[01:36] <ompaul> sri999, I used to copy the command from grip
[01:36] <TriGz> Thanks ompaul .
[01:36] <Arafangion> Spy: Your modem might not be supported.
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> Spy: how do you connect to the internet.
[01:36] <Arafangion> fyrestrtr: My guess is he's got one of those usb modems.
[01:36] <sri999> grip?
[01:36] <Spy> fyrestrtr with USB cable modem
[01:36] <sri999> wht is it?
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> Spy: it worked on the livecd?
[01:37] <sri999> wht is grip?
[01:37] <ompaul> TriGz, when you are asking a question you need to help us help you, so being very specific is useful - you used the word automatic an that was not obvious to me what you were talking about - DO NOT try to write to NTFS
[01:37] <Spy> sure fyrestrtr
[01:37] <Arafangion> TriGz: Use single-quotes, not double-quotes.
[01:37] <tk> Arafangion: generally they support USB and cat5 connections but the CAble company only provides the USB adapter
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> sri999, cd ripper
[01:37] <Arafangion> fyrestrtr: Use single quotes, bash can sometimes expand the double-quotes.
[01:37] <Arafangion> tk: Generally, yes.
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> Arafangion: yeah, good point. Thanks.
[01:38] <Arafangion> tk: They generally charge an absolute fortune for the usb ones too.
[01:38] <waxfactor2nd> fyrestrtr im sorry where afk / the problem is in the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1565624#post1565624 plz can you help me / when i wrote the problem in here i got disc because off spamming / so ill just ask you to read the llink / plz i really want the computer to work again
[01:38] <TriGz> ompaul, ok, sorry about that.. If i ran a program.. (namely World of Warcraft) would that class as writing? xD
[01:38] <waxfactor2nd> dooh / sry
[01:38] <sri999> i have my mp3 songs on the harddisk
[01:38] <ompaul> TriGz, read but don't write, blame some company for not helping people write to their filesystem
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> Spy: bootup the livecd, open a terminal, then pastebin the ouput of sudo ifconfig -a and lsmod.
[01:38] <waxfactor2nd> this was what i wanted to write  im sorry for spamming / but i just posted that here / im very sorry / can anyone help me in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1565624#post1565624 / i really need help
[01:38] <TriGz> ompaul, does running wow class as writing?
[01:38] <Spy> fyrestrtr i did
[01:38] <crazy1> WORLD OF WARCRAFT mmmmmmmmmm
[01:39] <tk> Arafangion: ahh they dont sell either one where I'm at... they make you use theres and return it at the end of service... but that fact is the reason why I now carry a 5 ft cat5 in my laptop case :P USB == drivers... cat5 == already working :)
[01:39] <Arafangion> TriGz: That may work in Wine.
[01:39] <TriGz> Arafangion, it does run in wine :P
[01:39] <TriGz> Arafangion, what i want to know is.. is it safe? :P
[01:39] <Arafangion> tk: Indeed.  I subscribe to teh KISS principle, and cat5 works for any OS, on any computer, including DOS>
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: wine? Sure, just don't drink and drive.
[01:39] <TriGz> Arafangion, like.. will it write and ruin my partitions? ^^
[01:39] <TriGz> fyrestrtr, shut it you :P you always mock me :(
[01:40] <Arafangion> TriGz: Wine will attempt to run it as an actual native program, with varying levels of success.
[01:40] <rambo3> waxfactor2nd, : sudo mount /dev/sda? /mnt/ubuntu , you know that you need to change ? to number of your partition
[01:40] <Spy> fyrestrtr i did lsmod with live cd and with installation too to compare
[01:40] <TriGz> Arafangion, so it's safe.. and if it doesnt work it wont affect my windows install? ;p
[01:40] <Arafangion> TriGz: It presents a fake windows installation in ~/.wine/drive_c
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> TriGz: to find out exactly how much of something is supported in wine, see http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> Spy: and what did you find out?
[01:40] <Arafangion> fyrestrtr: WoW is pretty much _the_ canonical game they test with, afaik.
[01:40] <ompaul> crazy1, if you don't have support questions please keep quite thanks
[01:40] <naranha> wine + wow works fine... you need to apply a source patch and compile it yourself
[01:40] <Spy> usbnet miss into installation mode
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> Arafangion: "they" = who?
[01:41] <Arafangion> naranha: Really?  What's the patch for?
[01:41] <Arafangion> fyrestrtr: Well, it was "tested" at the latest wine conference, afaik.
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> Arafangion: ati and nvida. Missing mini map, etc.
[01:41] <manuelchat3000> Does anyone could suggest me a channel where they discuss about wireless routers??I got a problem with my netgear wpn824.
[01:42] <naranha> i think it flickers with nvidia cards or something, just an opengl patch
[01:42] <naranha> see appdb
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> there is also the problem of the minimap not appearing when you walk into cities.
[01:42] <waxfactor2nd>  im sorry for spamming / but i just posted that here / im very sorry / can anyone help me in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1565624#post1565624 / i really need help
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> the patch fixes that too.
[01:42] <naranha> i think they fixed that
[01:42] <naranha> yeah
[01:42] <Arafangion> wine already has opengl now.  (But it's not enabled by default, afaik - you have to use wine regedit to enable it in the registry - see #winehq)
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> waxfactor2nd: please don't repeat, someone knows, they will answer.
[01:43] <cyber_brain_mfkg> anybody knows some link ehere i can download maya 4 linux(i've tried google but i found only some torrent files - and i have restriction of useing torrents!!!)
[01:43] <Spy> fyrestrtr: usbnet missing from hdd installation when i did lsmod
[01:43] <cyber_brain_mfkg> *where
[01:43] <manopulus> hello, i have .wav file, where i want to cut XXX mileseconds/seoconds at beginning, how i can do that? lame, sox, mplayer, better in console. ?
[01:43] <naranha> i think it works out of the box... the instructions provided in the appdb are quite straight forward
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> Spy: sudo modprobe usbnet <-- tried that?
[01:43] <main2> :-))
[01:43] <main2> MLAB1XA:/usr$ vncserver
[01:43] <main2> vncserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:43] <waxfactor2nd> kk im sry but i jusr ewally need help fast / gottaget linux and windows with drivers and ge=ames before tomorrow
[01:44] <main2> GOGOGO
[01:44] <Spy> fyrestrtr: i don't know how sudo work... i'm new in linux world
[01:44] <Arafangion> waxfactor2nd: Hahaha!
[01:44] <Arafangion> waxfactor2nd: You're joking, right?
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> Spy: just type it in :)
[01:44] <fabimm> ~/vmware-distrib$ sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:44] <fabimm> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct  1 13:35:11 2006
[01:44] <main2> ' sry but i jusr ewally need help fast / gottaget linux and windows with drivers and ge=ames before tomorrow'
[01:44] <manuelchat3000> ok
[01:44] <main2> HWAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
[01:44] <fabimm> what's that about?
[01:44] <sri999> friends can anyone tell how to play or convert mp3 songs to play in ubuntu
[01:44] <ompaul> main2, got an issue?
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> fabimm: fix your clock?
[01:44] <main2> ompaul: yes i do :(
[01:44] <Spy> fyrestrtr: mkay :) ... but do'll need to do other things after that ?
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> sri999: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:45] <fabimm> fyrestrtr : my clock is right !
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> Spy: you shouldn't try that, then lsmod again
[01:45] <sri999> yaa,i have read tht page
[01:45] <main2> ompaul:  im receiving an error from vncserver, that it cannot find libstd6.2
[01:45] <main2> while i got libtstdc 5 and 6 installed
[01:45] <Spy> fyrestrtr: ok thx i'll try it
[01:45] <strike> where can I getn archives of ubuntu
[01:45] <sri999> but how to play m p3 or how to convert them to oggvorbis
[01:46] <main2> ompaul: any ideas boy?
[01:46] <rambo3> sri999, just try to read that fyrestrtr posted
[01:46] <ompaul> main2, not much use to you, I don't use vncserver, I tried it out once and used the wiki to do it, no problems - so no ideas boy!
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> main2: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6-dev
[01:46] <main2> im getting the idea that the shared lib is updated but the symlink is not :/
[01:47] <main2> fyrestrtr: got that already
[01:47] <cyber_brain_mfkg> is there proxy settings 4 kopete??? i couldn't find it!!!
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> main2: give it LD_PRELOAD= path to it, and then try to run it, or read the wiki
[01:47] <ompaul> cyber_brain_mfkg, that would be a #kubuntu question
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> cyber_brain_mfkg: I believe it uses the same proxy settings as all other KDE apps. So you need to set them in the kde control panel.
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> or Kontrol
[01:48] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ompaul:  ok
[01:48] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ompaul: but i use gnome
[01:48] <fyrestrtr> !mp3
[01:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:48] <inpherno> hey, how do i install ubuntu with reiserfs... in the partition manager, create a reiserfs partition, but when it comes to install it wants to reformat to ext3
[01:48] <ompaul> cyber_brain_mfkg, so use ekiga
[01:49] <ompaul> cyber_brain_mfkg, it is a kde program therefore I suggest that you use that channel as they have more kde knowledge
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> inpherno: how are you installing it? using the livecd?
[01:49] <inpherno> yes
[01:49] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ompaul:  ekiga is also mesenger( suports yahoo,msn???)
[01:49] <ompaul> cyber_brain_mfkg, as far as I know it does
[01:49] <ompaul> cyber_brain_mfkg, and viop
[01:49] <fyrestrtr> no, ekiga is just SIP software.
[01:49] <ompaul> ohh
[01:49] <peter_> csan somebody tell me, why ubuntu doesn't recognise my PDA? Even HAL won't see it.
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> for messenger, you want the mighty gaim :)
[01:50] <ifrozen> hi I have a problem: I can't compile a program because it don't find some "deps", but they are still on the system (like gtk, gconf, libglade)
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> arafangion / no im not joking / i just a really newb / ive never tried linux before but i want to ttry it / do you know how to helP??
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> peter_: what type of pda?
[01:50] <ifrozen> what to do now?
[01:50] <ompaul> ahhh
[01:50] <peter_> fyrestrtr: T-Mobile MDA so windows mobile 5
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> ifrozen: what program is it?
[01:50] <fyrestrtr> peter_: 100% unsupported :)
[01:50] <inpherno> can anyone point me in the right direction for installing ubuntu on reiserfs?
[01:51] <ifrozen> fyrestrtr: playground... its a simple panel applet for gnome
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> peter_: about the only thing supported is, you plug it into the usb, and it will charge up.
[01:51] <peter_> fyrestrtr: are you sure?
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> peter_: 99.999%
[01:51] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ekiga requires registration!!! is it free???
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> ifrozen: install the -dev versions of your dependencies.
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> cyber_brain_mfkg: yes.
[01:51] <Fackamato> hm what was that edgy channel again..
[01:52] <cyber_brain_mfkg> fyrestrtr: ok ;)
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> cyber_brain_mfkg: if you just want to chat with your friends on yahoo/msn/icq use gaim, not ekiga.
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> Fackamato: #ubuntu+1
[01:52] <peter_> fyrestrtr: but there is synce with wm5 support.. :)
[01:52] <Fackamato> thanks
[01:52] <doopidub> i installe vmware player
[01:52] <doopidub> how can i start it now?
[01:52] <fyrestrtr> peter_: try it, I haven't had any luck with 3 WM5-based devices.
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> doopidub: read the wiki :)
[01:53] <cyber_brain_mfkg> fyrestrtr: ok ok i know, i'm using gaim but i've just installed kopete but i use proxy and i couldn't find proxy settings
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> cyber_brain_mfkg: what's so great about kopete that you MUST use it?
[01:53] <peter_> fyrestrtr: it is ubuntu's failure, and maybe i can use it with another distro?
[01:53] <darkanyel> are a irc chanel for doom3 in linux??
[01:53] <inpherno> okay...... then can anyone tell me if its possible to install ubuntu on reiserfs with the livecd?
[01:53] <ifrozen> fyrestrtr: but the problem is that all of them are on the system in the same directory and I think it could be enough to "say to it" where to find these libs/apps... maybe
[01:53] <cyber_brain_mfkg> fyrestrtr: nothing much just wanted to try it
[01:53] <fyrestrtr> peter_: I don't think its a ubuntu failure. If its supported under linux, it will be supported under ubuntu.
[01:54] <ifrozen> peter_: no...
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> ifrozen: ermm, did you install the deps using apt-get/synaptic/et. al. ?
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> inpherno: yes, it is.
[01:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. i need help regarding MONO. can anyone tell me how to install MONO
[01:54] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: why do you think you need it?
[01:54] <ifrozen> fyrestrtr: like gtk? of course :D but playground is just a source code... so of course I can't install it with apt
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> ifrozen: what error do you get when you ./configure ?
[01:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> fyrestrtr: to learn C#. i dont have windows.
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: sudo apt-get install monodevelop
[01:55] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, why C# and not python?
[01:55] <cyber_brain_mfkg> fyrestrtr: do u have maya for linux??? i can't find it whole day!(and yes i've tried google)
[01:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ompaul: oh come on. these are two differnet languages.
[01:55] <fyrestrtr> cyber_brain_mfkg: no, sorry I don't use those kinds of programs.
[01:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> plus. C# is in my syllabus. so i need it
[01:56] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, yes, but then I advocate one ;-)
[01:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ompaul: which one is that?
[01:56] <cyber_brain_mfkg> fyrestrtr: thanx anyway
[01:56] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ;)
[01:56] <inpherno> cyber_brain_mfkg: you mean warez?
[01:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> fyrestrtr: i hope MONO is a full fledged compiler for C#?
[01:56] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, python, do this Click on Sytem, Administration, Synaptic Package Manager, and in there search for mono
[01:56] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: it would be easier for you to use the (now free) vmware toolkit to install Windows XP and use the free Visual Studio starter kits from Microsoft if you are learning C#. Most likely your class will use the same.
[01:57] <ifrozen> fyrestrtr: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[01:57] <ifrozen> fyrestrtr: and "gconf-2.0" and "libglade-2.0"
[01:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> aah thanks. but why not MONO
[01:57] <darkanyel> anyone play doom3??
[01:57] <cyber_brain_mfkg> inpherno: ???
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> ifrozen: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[01:58] <ifrozen> okay
[01:58] <Arafangion> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Mono contains two compilers for C#.
[01:59] <Arafangion> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: For the two major versions of C# that have come out of MS.
[01:59] <peter_> fyrestrtr: if not over usb, maybe i can sync over bluetooth?
[01:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> just tell me this. is MONO good enough for learning C# or not/
[01:59] <Arafangion> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Mono is fine for learning C#, infact, imho, the documentation is better.
[01:59] <inpherno> cyber_brain_mfkg: you said you couldnt find maya for linux.... try: autodesk.com for $2000
[01:59] <Arafangion> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: And please stop shouting :)
[01:59] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ohk thanks. and please: might sound offtopic: which is better? C++ or C#?
[01:59] <mooney2> does ubuntu have the same "a2enmod' that debian does to enable apache 2 modules ?
[02:00] <Arafangion> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Depends.
[02:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> for CodeJam? LOL.
[02:00] <tejinder> whats the proper way of upgrading from dapper to edgy? i edited sources.list and did apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade last night. messed up my whole system, had to reinstall :(
[02:00] <Arafangion> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: Well, C++, because I like having RAII.
[02:00] <cyber_brain_mfkg> inpherno: thanx 4 advice! but no thanx!
[02:00] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ohk thanks. see ya guys.
[02:01] <Arafangion> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: But, honestly, C# is a great language.....   HELLO!?
[02:01] <Arafangion> Geeze!
[02:01] <ompaul> Arafangion, please your being offtopic (but funny)
[02:01] <Arafangion> ompaul: I was just warming up to the IronPython bit :(
[02:02] <darkanyel> anyone play doom3??
[02:02] <unfknblvbl> i do
[02:02] <Arafangion> ompaul: When I say "monkey", what do you think about?
[02:02] <unfknblvbl> or did
[02:02] <Arafangion> darkanyel: I used to play Wolf3D.
[02:03] <m1sh-L> i search a howto for installing xgl on edgy eft, can someone help me?
[02:03] <Arafangion> darkanyel: Do I get a cookie?
[02:03] <flajz> hello. I installed ubuntu 6.06.1 and it worked great! when I started my system, the linux kernel was upgraded to the latest, but still I see the old one in my Grub..
[02:03] <ompaul> Arafangion, SuSE and a buyout :)
[02:03] <darkanyel> arafangion, maybe ^^
[02:03] <Arafangion> ompaul: And those, in turn, remind me of Oracle, and their buyout of Sleepycat.
[02:03] <TeePOG> Arafangion: played Wolfenstein Enemy Territory yet?
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> peter_: maybe try bluetooth.
[02:03] <Arafangion> TeePOG: I don't recall playing that level in Wolf3D.
[02:04] <ompaul> please people the -offtopic channel is for chatting and here is strictly for ubuntu support
[02:04] <Arafangion> TeePOG: Actually, I don't think it was Wolf3D, maybe it was just "Wolf".
[02:04] <darkanyel> i have an error with doom
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> m1sh-L: #ubuntu+1 and #xgl
[02:04] <darkanyel> it frozen when is loading....
[02:04] <TeePOG> nooo Arafangion, it's a multiplayer game based on Wolfenstein, but it's free for W*nd*ws, Linux and Mac OS X
[02:04] <fyrestrtr> flajz: that's normal.
[02:04] <sri999> how to move a file from desktop to hda5
[02:04] <ompaul> sri999, what is hda5 ?
[02:04] <sri999> canany one help
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> sri999: mount hda5 somewhere first, then move the file to the mount point.
[02:05] <flajz> fyrestrtr, will the old one be removed when a new kernel comes?
[02:05] <ompaul> sri999, you can in theory, click on places "desktop" and move it to the other place
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> flajz: it cleans up, but keeps one behind incase you need something.
[02:05] <fyrestrtr> flajz: I think it only keeps two kernels.
[02:05] <flajz> awesome thanks
[02:06] <sri999> wht is meant my mounting hda5 somewhere?
[02:06] <SpComb> attaching it to the filesystem
[02:06] <fyrestrtr> sri999: you can only access drives once they are mounted (attached to a location on the file system).
[02:07] <ompaul> sri999, well it means you have to make it available, and it should not be a NTFS drive
[02:07] <Arafangion> It is interesting how Windows has started "mounting" and "Un mounting" devices.
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> it did that for a while.
[02:07] <sri999> it is not an NTFS drive
[02:07] <fyrestrtr> atleast its not plug and pray .... well, not most of them.
[02:08] <blenderx> Hi!
[02:08] <sri999> ss,it is there on the desktop
[02:09] <scylax> hi
[02:09] <scylax> i need help with dhcp3-relay... anyone?
[02:09] <blenderx> OK, so I installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on my P4 machine and the system is failing to get my VIA Rhine built-in ethernet card to work...
[02:09] <sri999> error while copying to /media/hda5
[02:09] <blenderx> I'm getting this message from dmesg:
[02:10] <sri999> this is the error tht appeared while trying to copy from destop to hda5
[02:10] <blenderx> via-rhine: probe of 0000:00:12.0 failed with error -5
[02:10] <blenderx> Invalid MAC address...
[02:10] <blenderx> any idea please?
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> sri999: type this in the terminal, and then paste the output mount | grep hda5
[02:10] <blenderx> any known workaround?
[02:11] <fyrestrtr> blenderx: was it working on the livecd?
[02:11] <blenderx> I don't even have GCC to compile a custom kernel for my machine...
[02:11] <blenderx> I didn't try that...
[02:11] <Tumaini> Hello! I'm deciding between ubuntu and kubuntu, and am wondering one thing. How do you change the window decorations (moving or adding icons in the title bar) in the gnome environment?
[02:11] <blenderx> but it was working on my previous fedora setup...
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> blenderx: how are you getting IP addresses? manually?
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> Tumaini, you can install gnome in kubuntu and kde in ubuntu ... so the question is moot really ... you can change the theme
[02:12] <blenderx> yes..
[02:12] <shriphani> if i install kuuntu would it sulk if i give it the same home as my ubuntu setup ?
[02:12] <Arafangion> shriphani: No.
[02:12] <blenderx> but the problem is that modprobe itself is failing...
[02:12] <blenderx> it's not a config. issue... it's a driver issue...
[02:12] <Tumaini> But if I'd like to use gnome alone, how do I change the window decorations?
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> its a MAC address issue to be honest.
[02:12] <ompaul> shriphani, to do this "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:12] <blenderx> fyrestrtr, is there any difference between the liveCD and installed kernels?
[02:13] <Arafangion> shriphani: Infact, it's very, very common to share /home between many different linux distributions.
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> blenderx: no.
[02:13] <shriphani> Arafangion, so i manually edit partition table ?
[02:13] <blenderx> OK.
[02:13] <Arafangion> blenderx: It's just a troubleshooting technique.
[02:13] <|thunder> to anyone running beryl. what does F7 do exactly?
[02:13] <blenderx> Arafangion, how come?
[02:13] <inpherno> fyrestrtr: i'm having trouble finding a guide/info on installing ubuntu on reiserfs, can u point me in the right direction pls?
[02:13] <Arafangion> blenderx: Have to start somewhere.
[02:13] <shriphani> ompaul, i dont want to like download a 100+ MB
[02:13] <ompaul> |thunder, #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl not here thanks it is beta software
[02:13] <blenderx> OK.
[02:13] <Tumaini> If you need an example, I'd like to move the 'close' icon to the left side, like in Mac OS.
[02:14] <fyrestrtr> inpherno: use the alternate install cd, and format the drive with reiserfs.
[02:14] <Tumaini> I can't find how to do that in gnome.
[02:14] <Arafangion> blenderx: Follow his instructions.
[02:14] <ompaul> shriphani, got the kubuntu cd?
[02:14] <shriphani> ompaul, yes
[02:14] <shriphani> Tumaini, use gconf editor
[02:14] <blenderx> so, is it possible to specify a MAC address @ startup time?
[02:14] <Tumaini> Ah! Where do I find that?
[02:14] <blenderx> Arafangion, what instructions?
[02:15] <blenderx> :)
[02:15] <ompaul> shriphani, stick it in and then do "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:15] <fyrestrtr> blenderx: I'm not sure, could be an option for the module. I don't have any via rhine chipset based card (I don't think anyway)
[02:15] <shriphani> Tumaini, fire up a terminal
[02:15] <shriphani> ok ompaul thanx
[02:15] <ompaul> shriphani, imples you have CD enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:15] <Tumaini> Ok, and what do I write?
[02:15] <b1_xt> xmms comes with strange symbols in menus, what can i do?
[02:16] <blenderx> fyrestrtr, what do you suggest to do?
[02:16] <firenx> can someone try http:// 154.5.113.182/
[02:16] <Tumaini> 'start the gconf, please?'
[02:16] <shriphani> ompaul, couldnt i just do apt-cdrom add ?
[02:16] <ompaul> shriphani, your testing if I am awake and I am not
[02:16] <shriphani> Tumaini, type gconf-editor
[02:16] <Tumaini> Alright. Thanks alot! :)
[02:16] <shriphani> heh
[02:17] <firenx> im trying to get apache running
[02:17] <shriphani> Tumaini, i think its aps ----> metacity ---->general
[02:17] <ompaul> firenx,  sudo apt-get install apache2 <<< is all you need for that
[02:17] <sri999> its not working tht command
[02:17] <firenx> ompaul: oh, its installed already, i'm just trying to get it to work with my router :)
[02:18] <Tumaini> Aha, I can go around the terminal? That's great, thank you!
[02:18] <omar> Hi everybod I gotta a big trouble with my S3 video card in ubuntu, I can-t open it , something is wrong maybe with my xorg, pls help me is very urgent , I got EE No device found, and I can open it, pls
[02:18] <Arafangion> omar: S3 Virge? Junk it.
[02:18] <ompaul> firenx, that would be your routers issue then
[02:18] <ubuntubob> can anyone help a poor noob with a cvs crisis?
[02:18] <blenderx> omar, try the VESA driver
[02:19] <omar> blenderx> HOw
[02:19] <cyzie> what happened to lilo ?
[02:19] <firenx> ompaul: can you test http://154.5.113.182/
[02:19] <blenderx> omar, I don't really have the details, but it's all about modifying your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[02:20] <blenderx> or something...
[02:20] <ompaul> cyzie, http://freenode.net/news.shtml
[02:20] <blenderx> check the net for some instructions on how to edit that file.. there is a lot of examples...
[02:20] <Arafangion> cyzie: /query
[02:20] <ompaul> firenx, it is not available
[02:20] <firenx> ompaul: ok.. thx
[02:21] <haydenAU> how do i mount a fat32 partition with full r/w access in fstab?
[02:21] <blenderx> you should know that the VESA driver is the slowest driver and won't offer any acceleration for your h/w
[02:21] <daigu> hi, anyone know how to configure a webcam Creative live ?
[02:21] <blenderx> but still you should be able to get something on screen...
[02:21] <fabimm> i can't launch applications with gtk in the terminal , i get this error -> GTK-WARNING : cannot open display, I'm running kubuntu .
[02:21] <ompaul> firenx, you need to log into it and allow some port redirection or something
[02:21] <doopidub> wine needs ia32-libs-dev
[02:21] <porkpie> guy's I have built the Dell Power edge 1950 13 times now and it is still failing with GRUB loading, please wait Error 21 ::::can anyone help please
[02:21] <doopidub> but there's no packet named like that
[02:21] <doopidub> what should i do?
[02:21] <blenderx> OK. got to go..
[02:22] <blenderx> thanks guys for the rhine issue...
[02:22] <blenderx> see ya.
[02:23] <doopidub> any ideas?
[02:23] <tk> great, I finally get xchat running and the install is almost done
[02:23] <unfknblvbl> a car key wistle finder
[02:23] <ubuntubob> doopidubs
[02:23] <ubuntubob> one sec
[02:24] <unfknblvbl> you put this thing on your car keys and if you misplace them you just wistle
[02:24] <unfknblvbl> and they make a noise
[02:24] <unfknblvbl> thast a good idea ? doopidub ?
[02:24] <haydenAU> how do i mount a fat32 partition with full r/w access in fstab?
[02:24] <shriphani> haydenAU, add a line to it
[02:25] <webofunni> #quit
[02:25] <haydenAU> shriphani, thanks for ya help... :S
[02:25] <fyrestrtr> haydenAU: /dev/what /mnt/where vfat rw,users 0 0 0 0
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> haydenAU: something like that.
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> !webcam > daigu
[02:26] <cyzie> thanks and condolences to the lilo's family
[02:27] <haydenAU> fyrestrtr, thanks
[02:27] <rambo3> whos lilo
[02:27] <stu_> if I know the name of the package I need, can I download it from somewhere.. .I need to transfer some packages to another computer
[02:28] <stu_> lilo was the founder of freenode
[02:29] <Skrot> Hi. How can I load a driver with certain options/arguments at boot?
[02:29] <main2> im compiling the latest version of GCC because i need it
[02:29] <main2> should i uninstall the currently installed package first?
[02:29] <ubuntubob> wasn't the lilo boot manager named for him?
[02:29] <sri999> friend how can i download and install real player
[02:30] <sri999> anybody pls help
[02:30] <Skrot> !realplayer
[02:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:30] <main2> sri999: you cant, and dont beg for help
[02:30] <main2> doesnt work
[02:30] <lukas> main2, dont know if i am right, but you cant compile without a compiler, right?
[02:30] <main2> REAL-player/media sucks
[02:30] <main2> lukas: im first compiling it now
[02:30] <TeePOG> friends don't let friends use Realplayer
[02:31] <lukas> main2, right
[02:31] <main2> when its done with 'sudo make' , i can uninstall GCC and then 'make install' ? :|
[02:31] <Tumaini> Hello again! Would anyone be kind and help me with finding out how to change the window title configuration in the configuration editor?
[02:31] <main2> lukas: OR should i just 'overwrite' it / install 'sudo make install' without uninstalling it?
[02:31] <Tumaini> I just can't seem to find where the window configuration is in the configuration editor
[02:32] <Skrot> Okay, how can I do "modprobe ipw2200 led=1" at boot?
[02:32] <xuberman> how do i become root?
[02:32] <main2> please help, could you help me - please please - o please help me
[02:32] <main2> xuberman: add urself to the 'man sudo'
[02:32] <Skrot> xuberman: sudo -i
[02:34] <mypapit> kimak lancau boring lak
[02:34] <Tumaini> I've found the configuration editor. Does anyone know how to find the configuration options for the window title bar in there?
[02:34] <mypapit> eh silap cenel, maap ya
[02:34] <xuberman> Skrot: can i log in as root?
[02:34] <xuberman> this xubuntu is really cool
[02:34] <xuberman> cool like suse
[02:34] <lukas> main2, not shure, sry.
[02:34] <Skrot> xuberman: Well, you can. By default, ubntu doesn't use root. Try "sudo passwd root" to change the root password. Then you'll be able to log in as root.
[02:34] <ubuntubob> anyone know anything about CVS
[02:34] <xuberman> how do i resize the panels?
[02:34] <rambo3> Skrot, create smal bash script , and link it to rc.
[02:35] <lukas> main2, but if it breaks anything its not that bad, because you can reinstall without compiling
[02:35] <Skrot> rambo3: That's the easiest route?
[02:35] <lukas> main2, i mean, in gentoo its quite more tricky
[02:35] <Trekkie101> Will the ubuntu live CD write anything to the hard disk?
[02:35] <xuberman> how do i resize the panels?
[02:35] <ubuntubob> Compiling from a cvs source?
[02:35] <stu_> my wireless works on my laptop, as well as the wired connection... to get my other PC working (need to instal lndiswrapper etc) I'd like ot bridge the wireless with the ethernet on my laptop and plug the other pc into my ehternet port.... whast the easiest way of doing this?
[02:35] <xuberman> this is a very neat distro
[02:35] <xuberman> and fast install
[02:35] <Tumaini> Do I go into apps, desktop, schemas, or system?
[02:36] <xuberman> now can i install gnome on top of xubuntu?
[02:36] <xuberman> and maybe kde?
[02:36] <lukas> xuberman, yes
[02:36] <ubuntubob> installing window managers is a peice of piss in ubuntu
[02:36] <lukas> xuberman, just apt-get gnome-desktop and or apt-get gnome-desktop
[02:37] <ubuntubob> works reqally reaqlly really well
[02:37] <rambo3> Skrot, can you find in /etc/modprobe.d where its loaded and edit it
[02:37] <lukas> but in my opinion xfce4 fulfills this task
[02:37] <stu_> you just told him to something or the same thing
[02:37] <stu_> to do*
[02:37] <xuberman> is vmware works with xubuntu?
[02:37] <shriphani> Tumaini, gconf-editor ?
[02:37] <stu_> yes, vmware, or xen
[02:38] <scifi> how do i startup mysql ?
[02:38] <Tumaini> Yes, shriphani, I'm in the gconf-editor, but I don't know where to go from there.
[02:39] <Skrot> rambo3: There's alsa-base in there, but it doesn't mention either snd-hda-intel nor snd-usb-audio which are the two I want to add stuff to
[02:39] <shriphani> Tumaini, apps ---------> metacity -----------> general i think
[02:39] <xuberman> how do i get flash player?
[02:40] <ghost_> hello, i just installed my nvidia drivers successfully, now in this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29, it says something about enabling "XvMC by creating the nVidia XvMC configuration file". Should i do this?
[02:40] <Skrot> rambo3: Think I found something. Brb
[02:40] <Tumaini> Aha, I found something like a list in there that lists the buttons. Perhaps I can use that. Thanks!
[02:40] <crazy_penguin> xuberman: use easyubuntu to install it
[02:40] <xuberman> how do i get flashplayer
[02:40] <xuberman> crazy_penguin: easy ubuntu?
[02:40] <xuberman> crazy_penguin: how to do it?
[02:40] <AnAnt> how can I regenerate the splash screen ?
[02:40] <crazy_penguin> xuberman: no easyubuntu
[02:40] <crazy_penguin> xuberman: one sec
[02:41] <xuberman> command not found
[02:41] <sakitel> xuberman: $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:41] <crazy_penguin> thats even better :)
[02:42] <xuberman> i did but its not giving it
[02:42] <xuberman> ok see
[02:42] <blenderx> hey,
[02:42] <xuberman> where is a good place to get repository lists?
[02:42] <blenderx> where can I find the list of options that can be passed to the kernel?
[02:42] <ubuntubob> xuberman
[02:42] <ubuntubob> there is a really good ubunto wiki
[02:43] <ubuntubob> with loads or repos
[02:43] <ubuntubob> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[02:43] <Gk-s2-> hello
[02:44] <Skylabs> when i insmod USBNET i could see modification in lsmod list but nothing happen with my cable modem... after i opened network tool and don't see modifications. What could i do if i need to make to work my cable modem in USB mode with Ubuntu ?
[02:45] <Gk-s2-> anyone can help me?
[02:45] <scifi> which mysql packages should i install ?
[02:45] <alex2> anybody know how to enable LPD in ubuntu
[02:45] <ubuntubob> whats the problem gk?
[02:45] <xuberman> so cool man
[02:45] <xuberman> so clean
[02:46] <alex2> I have a printer on a router port that I got to work on RH8 but can't power up on ubuntu
[02:46] <Gk-s2-> i've trying to install cedega for a while
[02:46] <Gk-s2-> i complete the instalation
[02:46] <Gk-s2-> but need nvidia drives
[02:46] <Gk-s2-> i install nividia
[02:46] <Gk-s2-> and now cedega give me that error
[02:46] <Gk-s2-> Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[02:46] <Gk-s2->         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[02:47] <odyssevs> Is there an apt-get substitute in Ubuntu?
[02:47] <ubuntubob> yeah
[02:47] <ubuntubob> ody
[02:47] <xubuman> can i use game with yahoo chat?
[02:47] <xubuman> gaim
[02:47] <ubuntubob> try the synaptic package manager
[02:47] <xubuman> gaim
[02:47] <scifi> which mysql packages should i install ?
[02:47] <odyssevs> Who is responsible for the splash screen at bootup?
[02:47] <ubuntubob> scifi, all of them!
[02:47] <odyssevs> The default one..
[02:47] <AnAnt> how can I regenerate the splash screen ?
[02:48] <Gothica> hi pippl. Anybody can solve my problem with Bmp (player)
[02:48] <Gothica> ?
[02:48] <scifi> theres so many
[02:48] <Tumaini> Hmm, I found it before, but how do I change from double-click for opening files, to single-click?
[02:48] <ubuntubob> one sec
[02:48] <odyssevs> The yellow/black one.
[02:48] <Gk-s2-> ok
[02:48] <xubuman> can i use gaim with yahoo chat
[02:49] <Tumaini> Yes, Yahoo is in the accounts list, xubuman.
[02:49] <ghost_> hello, i just installed my nvidia drivers successfully, now in this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29, it says something about enabling "XvMC by creating the nVidia XvMC configuration file". Should i do this?
[02:50] <Tumaini> You'd think changing to single-click would be one of the easiest things to do, but I just can't find where...
[02:50] <Gothica> while I try do: sudo ./configure. console print next: configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries
[02:50] <Gothica> Who can help me? :)
[02:50] <odyssevs> OK straight out of the box, ping google.com brings up "unknown host."
[02:50] <blenderx> what's the story w/ the builtin bittorrent tracker?
[02:50] <Skylabs> Anyone can help me with USB cable modem connection with Ubuntu please?
[02:51] <odyssevs> Card is recognised, valid IP assigned, gateway and nameservers autodetected etc.. can't see a fault, yet there appears to be no network. Ideas?
[02:51] <xubuman> it feels like i have a new computer
[02:51] <Gk-s2-> ubuntubob?
[02:51] <xubuman> olivier must be happy now
[02:51] <odyssevs> Second problem, su wants a password. The setup asked for a user password, which isn't valid as root. Is this a known problem?
[02:52] <ubuntubob> ody
[02:52] <ubuntubob> I got caught with this one
[02:52] <Gothica> who knows how to fix this: configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries ???
[02:52] <Tumaini> Hmm, the menu's stopped working...
[02:52] <Tumaini> How do you terminate running processes?
[02:52] <ubuntubob> by default ubuntu's root is disables
[02:52] <Gk-s2-> ubuntubob?
[02:52] <ubuntubob> you activate root commands using sudo
[02:53] <ubuntubob> yar gk
[02:53] <odyssevs> Jesus, to hell with that, how do you enable full root access?
[02:53] <ubuntubob> erm
[02:53] <Gothica> t2_ubuntobob what?
[02:53] <Tumaini> Where do you even see the running processes?
[02:53] <odyssevs> ps aux
[02:53] <odyssevs> gives running procs
[02:53] <ubuntubob> try the ubuntu wiki
[02:53] <Tumaini> In a terminal?
[02:53] <phargle> odyssevs: you have to use sudo to set roots pw, thats all
[02:53] <ubuntubob> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/
[02:54] <scifi> Tumaini: use system monitor?
[02:54] <Tumaini> Hmm, how do I get a terminal if my menu's and bars are not working?
[02:54] <odyssevs> 5 minutes into ubuntu and already I'm disliking it.. psychopathic colour schemes, network problems, no root.. it feels like I'm a foreigner in an unwelcome land =)
[02:54] <ubuntubob> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_set.2Fchange.2Fenable_root_user_password
[02:54] <Gk-s2-> Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[02:54] <Gk-s2-> anyone know how to fix?
[02:54] <Tumaini> How do I get to the system monitor if my menu's and bars aren't working? :P
[02:55] <phargle> odyssevs: watch out for spears
[02:55] <ubuntubob> gk, what are you trying to do?
[02:55] <tyuio> alt+f2
[02:55] <ubuntubob> install nvidia drivers?
[02:55] <Tumaini> Maybe I'd better just install windows. :P
[02:55] <Gk-s2-> open anyprogram
[02:55] <Gk-s2-> xchat
[02:55] <Gk-s2-> cedega
[02:55] <Gk-s2-> all say same message
[02:55] <ubuntubob> shit
[02:56] <ubuntubob> what have you been doing?
[02:56] <Gk-s2-> but cedega don't open
[02:56] <Gk-s2-> nivida drivers...
[02:56] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[02:56] <scifi> Gk-s2: tried restarting x ?
[02:56] <Gk-s2-> gxine to watch dvd's
[02:56] <blenderx> alright,
[02:56] <Gk-s2-> yeah
[02:56] <ubuntubob> so , you've installed nvidea drivers and its fooked up?
[02:56] <odyssevs> Good man ubuntubob - like your attitude.
[02:56] <Gk-s2-> hmm...yes
[02:56] <AnAnt> anyone got an idea how to regenerate the splash screen ?
[02:56] <Gk-s2-> but if i don't isntall i can't play games :D
[02:56] <blenderx> where can I find a valid ubuntu-friendly ethernet-device configuration file?
[02:57] <ubuntubob> press ctrl alt bkspace
[02:57] <Gothica> ubuntobob, can ia ask u?
[02:57] <ubuntubob> blenders, one comes with the standard disro
[02:57] <blenderx> I think I have the give a MAC address for my rhine card to boot..
[02:57] <odyssevs> Next problem ubuntubob, ethernet device appears to me to be properly configured, and up. Yet won't work.
[02:57] <valehru> Gk-s2-, you could use automatix to install nvidia drivers, then restart x windows
[02:58] <ubuntubob> muh
[02:58] <Gothica> 2ubuntubob: how to fix this: "configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries" ?
[02:58] <ubuntubob> router?
[02:58] <blenderx> ubuntubob, do I have to manually specify a MAC address for an ethernet card in order to get it working?
[02:58] <ubuntubob> blender, not generally
[02:58] <ubuntubob> thats usually reserved for wireless
[02:58] <odyssevs> Under `route` I'm seeing destination 192.168.1.0, whereas my gateway runs out of 192.168.1.1
[02:58] <blenderx> I have a VIA-Rhine on chip ethernet device and ubuntu is failing to get it to work...
[02:59] <odyssevs> However in the Network Settings the DNS server is listed as the approriate 192.168.1.1 (and has magically grabbed two more nameservers from the server).
[02:59] <xubuman> hmm
[02:59] <xubuman> something wrong
[02:59] <blenderx> ubuntubob, dmesg returns this string:
[02:59] <xubuman> the sound seems to skip and lag when i switch windows or click something is there a fix for this?
[03:00] <blenderx> via-rhine: probe of 0000:00:12.0 failed with error -5
[03:00] <odyssevs> So where can we force the gateway ip in Ubuntu?
[03:00] <ubuntubob> ody, what are you connecting to?
[03:00] <ubuntubob> a router, server?
[03:00] <odyssevs> A debian server, running dhcpd3
[03:00] <blenderx> so this is really a kernel issue not a config at boot-time, right?
[03:00] <ubuntubob> via a hub?
[03:01] <jearry> hellow
[03:01] <blenderx> odyssevs, yeah sure... use the route command..
[03:01] <jearry> how  are  you
[03:01] <fulhack> Hey guys and gals (yeah right..:P). I've got a small issue w/ my WPA (personal). I've set up wpa_supplicand to be able to connect and this works at times.. I've also set up network-manager-gnome, this too works *sometimes*. The symptoms when the network doesn't work is that it disconnects frequently. The bars in network-manager-gnome flash, etc. What's this?
[03:01] <scifi> can someone advise me. i dont know if im supposed to install mysql server or client ?
[03:01] <xubuman> yep sound skips
[03:01] <blenderx> odyssevs, for example: route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0
[03:01] <xubuman> do i need new kernel?
[03:01] <xubuman> pls help pls
[03:01] <blenderx> xubuman, I do!
[03:02] <blenderx> for sure...
[03:02] <odyssevs> ubuntubob, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25403/
[03:02] <jearry> im from china
[03:02] <ubuntubob> xuberman
[03:03] <blenderx> people,
[03:03] <xubuman> ok why does my sound skip every time i go to different window or click something? is it flash or is it something else? blenderx
[03:03] <odyssevs> blenderx: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[03:03] <blenderx> is it possible to download ubuntu packages manually and then install them on my ubuntu machine manually?
[03:03] <sri999> how to convert mp3 files oggvorbis
[03:03] <jearry> first from here
[03:03] <blenderx> for example, to update my kernel?
[03:04] <ubuntubob> blenderx
[03:04] <odyssevs> blenderx, what, like wgetting a package and something like dpkg to install?
[03:04] <ubuntubob> you sure you wanna do that?
[03:04] <xuburman> hmm xfmedia takes long to load my cd
[03:04] <ubuntubob> use the auto update
[03:04] <sri999> can anyone tell
[03:04] <ubuntubob> it updated my kernel quite nicely
[03:04] <blenderx> odyssevs, you have to supply the correct out-going interface (at the end).
[03:04] <fulhack> Frequent disconnects w/ WPA, then problems reconnecting. Is that normal?
[03:05] <xuburman> ok and it skips hmm
[03:05] <blenderx> ubuntubob, I don't have connectivity on my Ubuntu machine...
[03:05] <xuburman> whats iwrong with this?
[03:05] <ubuntubob> oh I see
[03:05] <jearry> i  want do use oicq
[03:05] <ubuntubob> have you tried sticking another ethernet card in
[03:05] <odyssevs> blenderx, I have the correct out-going interface... At least, there's only one ethernet card in there, if it's trying to believe my wifi card is an ethX I'd have to chceck.. is that even possible?
[03:05] <blenderx> I intend to download the packages from another machine and then move them to my ubuntu one and update..
[03:05] <blenderx> is that possible?
[03:05] <ubuntubob> there seems to be some conflict with VIA-Rhine and ubuntu
[03:05] <odyssevs> I'm not in the habit of replacing hardware - it's a common chipset.
[03:06] <xuburman> hmm not very good
[03:06] <ubuntubob> not replace, test
[03:06] <jearry> i want to download  oicq
[03:06] <odyssevs> Realtek 8029.. shouldn't dream this is remotely a problem.
[03:06] <xuburman> can i compile my own kernel?????????????????
[03:06] <blenderx> ubuntubob, I bet there is!
[03:06] <ubuntubob> If you change the card and it works you know its a hardware fault or incompatability
[03:06] <odyssevs> xuburman, absolutely, you need a walk through?
[03:06] <steeltoes13546> hey i need some help with installing ubuntu
[03:06] <odyssevs> It was working 2 hours ago with Debian ubuntubob.
[03:06] <scifi> can someone advise me. i dont know if im supposed to install mysql server or client ?
[03:07] <jearry> hei
[03:07] <KDan> when i do "find / -name sys", I see a couple of errors about proc files, but no actual files owned... can i safely assume that the 'sys' user can be removed?
[03:07] <ubuntubob> yeah, different kernel tho innit
[03:07] <KDan> (this is on a clean ubuntu server install)
[03:07] <ubuntubob> steeltoes, wassup?
[03:07] <xuburman> can i compile my own kernel?????????????????????????????
[03:07] <steeltoes13546> when i am installing ubuntu the machine keeps hanging during the instalation at 51% complete
[03:07] <ubuntubob> how much ram do you have?
[03:07] <odyssevs> The fact that `route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0` produces `SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable` is quite worrying.
[03:07] <xuburman> can i compile my own kernel?????????????????????????????
[03:07] <steeltoes13546> 1024mb
[03:07] <ubuntubob> hmm
[03:08] <odyssevs> xuburman, apparently no answer can satisfy you.
[03:08] <ubuntubob> xuberman,
[03:08] <haydenAU> can someone help me im trying to mount a fat32 partition and share it using samba, i can get to it using a smb client but i can't modify any files on the partition because it is owned by root and i can't chown it
[03:08] <odyssevs> No `modconf` command in Ubuntu?~~
[03:08] <ubuntubob> kernel compiling is not nessasary for the average user
[03:08] <scifi> can someone advise me. i dont know if im supposed to install mysql server or client ?
[03:08] <blenderx> ubuntubob, I once installed ubuntu (a previous version) on a machine w/ 48MB of RAM :)
[03:08] <KDan> when i do "find / -name sys", I see a couple of errors about proc files, but no actual files owned... can i safely assume that the 'sys' user can be removed? (clean ubuntu server install
[03:08] <odyssevs> Scifi, how can you not know? What is your objective?
[03:09] <ubuntubob> I just asked because the suse install requires a min of 512 ram
[03:09] <ubuntubob> that used to hang
[03:09] <blenderx> OK.
[03:09] <blenderx> People, what is the default ubuntu repos?
[03:09] <ubuntubob> steeltoes
[03:09] <blenderx> Where can I download the packages manually?
[03:09] <steeltoes13546> yes
[03:09] <ubuntubob> there is a ram test utility on the CD
[03:09] <steeltoes13546> yes
[03:09] <ubuntubob> I suggest you run that
[03:09] <[BTF] Chm0d> morning guys i just need to ask a question
[03:09] <scifi> odyssevs: i just want to use it for a database, i have it on windows, and u didnt have to make that choice to install it then.
[03:09] <steeltoes13546> i havnt run that
[03:10] <ubuntubob> go on chm
[03:10] <steeltoes13546> but i am running 1024mb dual channel.    the RAM is actually brand new
[03:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> I have a 7800GTX card and have installed the drivers.  If I do a glxinfo should direct rendering be yes?
[03:10] <ubuntubob> whats the spec of the puter?
[03:10] <steeltoes13546> i cant see how that can be the prob
[03:10] <THX-1138> blenderx: !source-o-matic
[03:10] <odyssevs> blenderx, http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu ?
[03:10] <firenx> hey, can someone try http:// 154.5.113.182/ and tell me if my webserver is working?
[03:10] <ubuntubob> pass chm, still havent got round to setting up my video properly
[03:10] <blenderx> OK, thanks!
[03:10] <xuburman> i cant hear sound with XMMS pls help pls
[03:11] <china-qingdao> 7800GTX card too new
[03:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> :)
[03:11] <THX-1138> blenderx:!source-o-matic
[03:11] <steeltoes13546> P4 3.12mhz 20gig hdd
[03:11] <odyssevs> 154.5.113.182 unpingable, no webpage.
[03:11] <xuburman> PLS HELP I CANT HEAR SOUND WITH XMMS I USE ATI IXP
[03:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey china-qingdao if you do a glxinfo the second line or so is your direct rendering saying yes or no
[03:11] <KDan> xuburman--
[03:11] <firenx> grr ok thanks odyssevs.. i just cant figure it out
[03:11] <haydenAU> can someone help me im trying to mount a fat32 partition and share it using samba, i can get to it using a smb client but i can't modify any files on the partition because it is owned by root and i can't chown it !
[03:11] <ubuntubob> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/ is a good source of info
[03:11] <china-qingdao> ?
[03:11] <blenderx> THX-1138, what's that?
[03:11] <steeltoes13546> ok thanks
[03:12] <THX-1138> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:12] <renaud> you know why glxgears on dapper dont show the fps anymore ?
[03:12] <firenx> odyssevs: you cant even ping my ip?
[03:12] <xuburman> brb
[03:12] <KDan> when i do "find / -name sys", I see a couple of errors about proc files, but no actual files owned... can i safely assume that the 'sys' user can be removed? (clean ubuntu server install)
[03:12] <odyssevs> Nope.
[03:12] <blenderx> hey, there is nothing on http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ !
[03:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> renaud: it shows in console when you run glxgears
[03:12] <blenderx> I mean, no .deb packages!
[03:12] <Zico> I got a problem with installation.. first I tried edubuntu, after that ubuntu alternate.. both of them stop installing on 79% of base system
[03:12] <Zico> at that moment it's usplash installing
[03:13] <odyssevs> Who configured your router/gateway/server, firenx?
[03:13] <IRC_> what is an easy way to play wmv files in firefox?
[03:13] <Zico> alt-f3 doesn't indicate any errors
[03:13] <renaud> [BTF] Chm0d, not on my computers
[03:13] <firenx> odyssevs: me, its m0n0wall..
[03:13] <ubuntubob> irc, install w32 codecs
[03:13] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm when i run glxgears in terminal the fps output is in the terminal
[03:13] <ubuntubob> (w32-codecs)
[03:14] <Zico> is it possible during install to skip installing of usplash totally?
[03:14] <IRC_> ubuntubob: when i install w32-codecs does it automatically put them into totem?
[03:14] <ubuntubob> and a xine/kaffene/totem mozilla plugin
[03:14] <ubuntubob> irc, yes
[03:14] <odyssevs> firenx, not familiar with it.
[03:14] <ubuntubob> allthough its not totem,
[03:14] <blenderx> Where can I manually download .deb packages for my ubuntu? sigh...
[03:14] <firenx> http://m0n0.ch/wall
[03:14] <ubuntubob> totem is just a front end for xine
[03:14] <sri999> i have mp3 songs in hda5
[03:14] <sri999> it is mounted
[03:14] <scifi> blenderx: there is a site, im just trying to find url
[03:14] <sri999> how to play those songs
[03:15] <sri999> friends give ur valuable solutions
[03:15] <blenderx> scifi, thanks!
[03:15] <IRC_> ubuntubob: ok so i "sudo apt-get install w32-codecs" and then sudo apt-get install firefox-totem-something" and wmv playback will be in firefox?
[03:15] <ubuntubob> irc, I would use the synaptic package manager
[03:16] <haydenAU> can someone help me im trying to mount a fat32 partition and share it using samba, i can get to it using a smb client but i can't modify any files on the partition because it is owned by root and i can't chown it !
[03:16] <scifi> blenderx: i take it ur running dapper? if so: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[03:16] <THX-1138> !restrictedformats
[03:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <haydenAU> !fat32
[03:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:16] <blenderx> scifi, thanks!
[03:16] <haydenAU> !fuse
[03:16] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:16] <renaud> haydenAU, you have to change the UID in your mount command
[03:16] <renaud> man mount :)
[03:16] <blenderx> COoL!!
[03:17] <scifi> blenderx: but still, id recommend using the synaptic package manager
[03:17] <IRC_> ubuntubob: it said i already installed them. i just uninstalled it. now what do i do?
[03:17] <odyssevs> Well folks there we go, let the lesson be learned, use 192.168.0.1 when configuring a dhcp server instead of 192.168.1.1 - ubuntu presumes the former and won't ask whether it is the latter.
[03:18] <scifi> isnt the next release of ubuntu due soon ?
[03:18] <troughton> i am trying to install the wirless network on my presario v6000 and anyone help
[03:18] <blenderx> scifi, I don't have ethernet connectivity on my Ubuntu machine!
[03:18] <THX-1138> "/msg ubotu !<item_info>" or "!<item_info>   >   <irc_user>
[03:18] <blenderx> it's really lame!
[03:18] <blenderx> scifi, I can find precompiled kernels on that web site!
[03:18] <ubuntubob> irc, what do you have installed?
[03:18] <odyssevs> troughton, let's have some specifics. What's the wifi card (or chipset if you know it) and which kernel are you using? And how far have you progressed?
[03:18] <THX-1138> ifconfig -a   ??
[03:18] <ubuntubob> w32-codecs?
[03:19] <odyssevs> firenx, any joy?
[03:19] <IRC_> ubuntubob: i had w32-codecs installed in synaptic so i uninstalled it because i thought it might have been a wrong package.
[03:19] <THX-1138> !restrictedformats > ubuntubob
[03:19] <ubuntubob> nah, you need that
[03:19] <troughton> all i know is it is a broadcom card and i am running the k8 kernel how do i find out the chip set ??
[03:19] <odyssevs> firenx, can you paste the firewall into the bin for us?
[03:19] <IRC_> ubuntubob: woops. its gone now
[03:20] <odyssevs> troughton, probably broadcom43... becoming quite common. Of course they don't release bloody details about their chips so it's all based on reverse engineering. Let me square you up with a good place to begin..
[03:20] <gandolfthewizard> anyone here to help
[03:20] <Zico> during install alt-f2 -> console.. how to tell installation to skip current package?
[03:20] <troughton> ok thanks odyssevs
[03:21] <odyssevs> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_alles.php is a good general page for finding all wifi driver info for Linux.
[03:21] <THX-1138> troughton - if you see "cafuego" - he was nice enough to post something on his site. i trust him he has been here for years. - though there are other ways to do it.
[03:21] <ubuntubob> troughton,
[03:21] <JB_> Any Ubuntu Developer online?
[03:21] <ubuntubob> google madwifi too, thats pretty good
[03:21] <odyssevs> Go there and select the specific card you're using. If it is the one I suspect, broadcom43 (bcm43*) then you'll want http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[03:21] <gandolfthewizard> hi all i don't understand why my ubuntu freezes when i go to make it a perminate install on my laptop
[03:22] <Zico> Installation stopped at "Installing the kernel - retrieving and installing usplash..." how to skip this to continue installation?
[03:22] <THX-1138> gandolfthewizard - were you able to find inything in /var/log ?
[03:23] <gandolfthewizard> i am new to linux so i have no idea
[03:23] <blenderx> OK! found it!
[03:23] <blenderx> Thanks scifi!
[03:23] <scifi> blenderx: netime
[03:23] <blenderx> Alright, it's 21Mb + dependencies and all...
[03:23] <THX-1138> gandolfthewizard: Me too. - that is about all i know is where to look. with more info someone will help.
[03:24] <gandolfthewizard> i thought it might have been my mem so i downloaded and burnt the other iso for computers under 198 and that says that it had corrupted files?
[03:24] <blenderx> That's too much for my 256 kbps ADSL connection...
[03:24] <scifi> blenderx: but that wont necessarily fix ur ethernet problem.
[03:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone here running a nvidia video card?
[03:24] <scifi> why ?
[03:24] <THX-1138> gandolfthewizard: a torrent?
[03:24] <blenderx> I think I'm going to plug my old Realtek ethernet card and try it first..
[03:24] <[BTF] Chm0d> if so can they do a glxinfo and tell me if direct rendering says yes or no?
[03:25] <THX-1138> glxinfo |grep direct
[03:25] <gandolfthewizard> well it will run off the cd but as soon as i try to install the install it will freeze when it gets to the language opptions i am able to click ok but then it freezes
[03:25] <prdgy> can anyone post a link that describes how the login process works (i tried google)
[03:25] <blenderx> So here is my opinion about my first day under ubuntu: fedora does really offer a better h/w support.
[03:25] <odyssevs> blenderx, don't be silly.. 256 kbs is plenty of speed for 21 MB.
[03:25] <[BTF] Chm0d> yes i know that THX-1138 i just want to know what others have mine says no
[03:25] <gandolfthewizard> torrent?
[03:25] <blenderx> odyssevs, haha 256kbps and you're not in Tunisia !
[03:25] <blenderx> :)
[03:26] <IRC_> ubuntubob: ok i installed the w32codecs. what do i do to get them to play in totem?
[03:26] <THX-1138> gandolfthewizard: hm, not sure what is happening. maybe the system is bootable from there?
[03:26] <odyssevs> blenderx, my condolences on your location man.. it's a rough place.
[03:26] <fulhack> Hey.. How can I antialias fonts on webpages in firefox? The fonts in menus, title bar, etc are great, but the fonts on the actual websites look crappy. Help?
[03:26] <gandolfthewizard> i have the cd coming so i hope that the cd will be better
[03:26] <blenderx> FYI, Tunisia is a nice small country located in the top of Africa
[03:26] <THX-1138> [BTF] Chm0d: Do you have the DRI module loaded in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:26] <odyssevs> blenderx, know it well. Horrible place to be.
[03:26] <blenderx> just below Italy
[03:27] <blenderx> odyssevs, how come?
[03:27] <blenderx> :)
[03:27] <odyssevs> They're a funny bunch in North Africa.. they don't handle tips (ahem) so well as the folks down South.
[03:27] <THX-1138> gandolfthewizard: Okay, sounds good. - would of been nice to be up and running this morning.
[03:27] <cpl-tnt44> a quastion : im now installing ubuntu on an old laptop PIII 500 compaq , its installing very slow , can i install it on my amd desktop computer fully and move the HDD back to the laptop and it all works fine ?
[03:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm i dont believe i do THX-1138
[03:27] <[BTF] Chm0d> no i dont
[03:27] <odyssevs> Hell of a lot of poverty there, very evident poverty. It was quite distressing.
[03:27] <IRC_> ubuntubob: what do i do after i install the w32codecs? how do i get them into totem and firefox?
[03:27] <Skylabs> hi, i need to add usbnet to /etc/modules and i'm new in linux world ...what should exactly do or where i must go please ?
[03:28] <blenderx> odyssevs, not in every place actually...
[03:28] <gandolfthewizard> yeah i have been trying for the last two days and i just have no idea how come it is doing it i was running windows xp on it but i just can't get ubuntu to run on it
[03:28] <odyssevs> blenderx, oh, you're a cut above the rest I see =)
[03:28] <odyssevs> Skylabs no modprobe in Ubuntu?
[03:28] <blenderx> odyssevs, not really :)
[03:28] <odyssevs> Or depmod?
[03:28] <cpl-tnt44> blend ?
[03:28] <cpl-tnt44> a quastion : im now installing ubuntu on an old laptop PIII 500 compaq , its installing very slow , can i install it on my amd desktop computer fully and move the HDD back to the laptop and it all works fine ?
[03:28] <blenderx> Alright,
[03:28] <THX-1138> cpl-tnt44: Yes,  similar trouble here with my favorite lappy. only 128mbs of ram. - my desktop currently shows 300mbs used. - i would guess there is a lot of disk swapping.
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[03:29] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, no.
[03:29] <gandolfthewizard> i have another ? can you run window apps on linux?
[03:29] <Skylabs> odyssevs yes in ubuntu
[03:29] <blenderx> so, I'm going to test my old card on my new Ubuntu setup, I'll be back later..
[03:29] <odyssevs> blenderx, wait.
[03:29] <odyssevs> You having the same problem I had?
[03:29] <blenderx> which one?
[03:29] <tyuio> yes you can use wine to run linux apps
[03:29] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , thank u ! in what stage of the installation u did the swap back to the laptop ?
[03:29] <tyuio> i mean windows apps
[03:29] <blenderx> VIA-rhine not working?
[03:29] <THX-1138> gandolfthewizard: WINE is good and free Cedega is $5 pm and free if you don't mind compiling it from source
[03:30] <odyssevs> Well I'm a secretive fellow, don't like showing my cards - what's yours? IRQ conflict?
[03:30] <blenderx> probably..
[03:30] <odyssevs> I had the same warning earlier. Ignored it.
[03:30] <blenderx> I tried w/ noapic, acpi=noirq
[03:30] <gandolfthewizard> i just wish i could get my laptop up and running today that is all
[03:30] <blenderx> and NOTHING...
[03:30] <Skylabs> Anyone can help me with USB cable modem connection with Ubuntu please?
[03:30] <gandolfthewizard> i'll try burning the cd at a slower speed
[03:30] <odyssevs> Does swapping the slot make a difference?
[03:30] <THX-1138> !usb
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <blenderx> odyssevs, any idea?
[03:30] <odyssevs> gandolfthewizard, or buy a better quality CDR.
[03:30] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , thank u ! in what stage of the installation u did the swap back to the laptop ?
[03:31] <THX-1138> !ubou you are an amnesiac
[03:31] <odyssevs> blenderx, no, but linuxhelp on undernet might know.
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubou you are an amnesiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <odyssevs> In fact I'll guarantee they'll know.
[03:31] <blenderx> odyssevs, it's a built-in card actually inside the southbridge chipset...
[03:31] <gandolfthewizard> i have a dvd burner and i use maxwell
[03:31] <odyssevs> Well then, no conflict.
[03:31] <odyssevs> Ubuntu not picking the right module for it?
[03:32] <blenderx> odyssevs, my VIA-rhine used to be supported on all the Linux flavors (sure, it's a kernel driver) but only on Ubuntu..
[03:32] <THX-1138> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-37252.html usb modems
[03:32] <blenderx> odyssevs, no not really, I get via_rhine loaded,
[03:32] <cpl-tnt44> any one has a guide operating internet explorer 5 or a web browser build on the same engine on ubuntu ?
[03:32] <gandolfthewizard> what is a good burn speed for iso?
[03:32] <blenderx> but then it says that it fails probing the device and returns w/ error -5.
[03:32] <cpl-tnt44> x24
[03:32] <blenderx> odyssevs, I get this message:
[03:33] <scifi> how do i start the mysql server ?
[03:33] <THX-1138> cpl-tnt44: Checkout ie4linux - haven't tried it but is mentioned ofte in #winehq
[03:33] <odyssevs> gandolfthewizard, whatever the drive/CD will take =)
[03:33] <cpl-tnt44> gandolfthewizard , x24 and down are the optimal speeds
[03:33] <blenderx> via_rhine: device 0000:00:12.0 failed probing error -5
[03:33] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , link ?
[03:34] <gandolfthewizard> ok ty i will try that i was burning them at x48
[03:34] <odyssevs> blenderx, any other (unrelated?) errorsw?
[03:34] <cpl-tnt44> nm i'll google it ...
[03:34] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , nm i'll google it ...
[03:34] <gandolfthewizard> ok well i will try that and i will be back later
[03:34] <THX-1138> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page - i really would rather recommend  Opera or Firefox on linux but, there you go.
[03:35] <blenderx> more precisely, via-rhine: probe of 0000:00:12.0 failed with error -5
[03:35] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , an other problem running x32 bit application on linux ?
[03:35] <ghost_> hello, i just installed my nvidia drivers successfully, now in this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29, it says something about enabling "XvMC by creating the nVidia XvMC configuration file". Should i do this?
[03:35] <vm> join #linux
[03:35] <xuburman> hi
[03:35] <blenderx> odyssevs, any idea?
[03:35] <xuburman> i have problems with my freaking audio
[03:35] <odyssevs> That gandolf bloek wasn't trying to load a i386 build on a mac was he?!
[03:35] <xuburman> someone wanna help me pls
[03:35] <scifi> how do i start the mysql server ?
[03:35] <odyssevs> blenderx, asking a few buddies, standby.
[03:35] <THX-1138> cpl-tnt44: Did you mean you have a 64bit system?
[03:35] <elkbuntu> vm, is that all you came here to say, or was that a typo?
[03:35] <odyssevs> scifi, really, don't you think reading the manual is a basic requirement at your stage?
[03:35] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , no 32 bit ... win xp sp2 application and sort of like...
[03:35] <blenderx> thanks!
[03:36] <xuburman> anyone pls
[03:36] <vm> elkbuntu - i forgot "/", sorry
[03:36] <xuburman> HELP I GOT PROBLEMS WIHT MY AUDIO ATI IXP OF ALSA OR OSS
[03:36] <xuburman> pls help
[03:36] <odyssevs> xuburman, well mate, if ALSA doesn't work use OSS =)
[03:36] <elkbuntu> vm, thats fine. just checking you're human ;)
[03:36] <kzt> xuburman, it will help if you can describe your problem first.
[03:36] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , i have for an exsample a stockmarket program and i wanna install it on ubuntu there must be some sort of emulator
[03:36] <odyssevs> OSS is better anyway. Nicer sounds.
[03:36] <THX-1138> cpl-tnt44: The more the application depends on directx or has a cd copy protection $ scheme the less likely it is to work with a single click.
[03:37] <xuburman> I try to play audio cd on XMMS XINE MPLAYER but it wont load
[03:37] <scifi> odyssevs: u mean "man mysql" or the mysql manual on the website that only shows windows procedures ?
[03:37] <cpl-tnt44> its a simple graph program ..
[03:37] <xuburman> kzt:  I try to play audio cd on XMMS XINE MPLAYER but it wont load
[03:37] <THX-1138> cpl-tnt44: hm - sounds like it should be easier than half-life with steam. - half-life works,
[03:38] <odyssevs> scifi, does mysql put something into /etc/init.d/ ?
[03:38] <kzt> xuburman, how about the system sounds? do you hear them? is it just the audio cd?
[03:38] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , there isnt an emulator for running windows application ? i know there is an emulator running linux apps , so it must be going 2 ways aint it ?
[03:38] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, wine ?
[03:38] <THX-1138> So does World of Warcaft. - Does anyone have a link to 12step meeting for warcraft addiction?
[03:38] <odyssevs> (Not technically an emulator though).
[03:38] <scifi> odyssevs: yes, 3 different mysql related folders
[03:39] <blenderx> odyssevs, OSS is dead!
[03:39] <odyssevs> THX-1138, it's easier if you go to Finland, develop a sex addiction and join SLAA.
[03:39] <scifi> odyssevs: i mean files
[03:39] <odyssevs> blenderx, seriously? Jeez.. I used to run OSS very nicely. Many moons ago.
[03:39] <blenderx> always use ALSA + OSS emulation
[03:39] <blenderx> :)
[03:39] <THX-1138> cpl-tnt44: I use Cedega and WINE to run games. (mostly)
[03:40] <mich> can someone plz helpp me
[03:40] <JB_> Give it any backports for dapper with Apache2.2 ???
[03:40] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 ,u have a guide for it ?
[03:40] <odyssevs> mich, awwwww, are you lost?
[03:40] <odyssevs> blenderx, sounds like the right idea mate.
[03:40] <mich> yes...
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, On a previous ubuntu installation I was able to right click the desktop or inside a directory and have "Open Terminal" as an option.  I can not remember how I got this, I think it was something I was able to get via apt-get install.....any ideas
[03:40] <odyssevs> My buddies aren't answering right now.
[03:41] <THX-1138> lets see how badly the bot needs coffee this morning i am 0 for 2
[03:41] <THX-1138> !wine
[03:41] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:41] <odyssevs> Paddy_EIRE, menu editor?
[03:41] <waxfactor2nd> hi im still having troublle with dual boot / first i installed windows , then linux by using use largest continuous free space. but now it wont boot anything / i get a grub error 22 before i can choose / anyone who can help??
[03:41] <THX-1138> !grub
[03:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:41] <mich> well i installed ubuntu on my notebook network card si working but i can only get into the router settings but i can't get on the net the net is work but on this computer
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> odyssevs: no It was a right click option
[03:41] <THX-1138> 2 and 2 with the bot Weee!
[03:41] <cpl-tnt44> THX-1138 , Thank YOU i think thats all i need ...
[03:42] <odyssevs> Paddy, you're connecting from a British Telecom ISP... are we really to believe you're an "Eire" issued Paddy? (As opposed to a Paddy from the Congo)
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> odyssevs: Northern Ireland
[03:42] <Gothica> checking for X... no
[03:42] <Gothica> configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries
[03:42] <odyssevs> Northern Ireland != Eire.... !
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> odyssevs: Ireland to me
[03:42] <gunfus> hello quick question.. his there a way to modify the fstab
[03:42] <Gothica> how fix?
[03:42] <THX-1138> cpl-tnt44: Windows users linux communoity - come back and share what you know.
[03:42] <gunfus> ubot
[03:43] <odyssevs> mich, well then, is your router a bog standard hardware one or are you using a DHCP enabled server?
[03:43] <THX-1138> I could use some help with spelling.. - lol
[03:43] <mich> i think so
[03:43] <scifi> odyssevs: ive tried "etc/init.d/mysql --console" but says no file or directory
[03:43] <odyssevs> Paddy, I see. Either way you cut it, you are under the jurisdiction of the EU.
[03:43] <odyssevs> scifi, how about trying a mysql channel?
[03:43] <mich> well this computer (running windows) is working on the router
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> odyssevs: if you wish to look at it that way ;)
[03:43] <scifi> ok
[03:44] <gunfus> is there a way to modify the fstab
[03:44] <gunfus> I mean using a GUI?
[03:44] <THX-1138> gunfus - gksudo gedit?
[03:44] <THX-1138> !fstab
[03:44] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[03:44] <gunfus> THX-1138: I will try that
[03:44] <odyssevs> scifi, http://www.washington.edu/computing/web/publishing/mysql-install-myuwnet.html perhaps
[03:44] <THX-1138> 2 and 3 with the bot - !ubotu you are a genius
[03:44] <romaluca> how can i print in mode front/retro?
[03:45] <odyssevs> scifi, hope you put a / before etc.
[03:45] <scifi> odyssevs: im in a mysql channel, thnx for tip
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how to add open terminal from the right click menu
[03:45] <odyssevs> Paddy, it is a reality sadly. We have bigger problems on our hands. It is hardly a secret that the IRA is a branch of the British military.
[03:45] <waxfactor2nd> hi im still having troublle with dual boot / first i installed windows , then linux by using use largest continuous free space. but now it wont boot anything / i get a grub error 22 before i can choose / anyone who can help??
[03:45] <Gothica> hi
[03:45] <gunfus> THX-1138: ohh I meant.. liek something more friendly.. sure I can always edit the fstab file.. but would think that Ubuntus has a more friendly GUI
[03:46] <THX-1138> romaluca - this may be of no help but gutenprint is the app that handles printers
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> odyssevs: I dont think you have a clue what your talking about mate, take it to some other channel
[03:46] <THX-1138> gunfus - they do :) - it is in the administration menu under system
[03:46] <romaluca> pl
[03:47] <romaluca> ok
[03:47] <romaluca> thanks
[03:47] <THX-1138> !pl
[03:47] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:47] <odyssevs> Paddy, no, you're quite right. 30 years of studying the subject and I'm still ignorant. There are three types of people out there. Moles, agents provocateur and useful idiots.
[03:47] <odyssevs> Mich, you think so to which scenario?
[03:47] <Alakazam_> waxfactor2nd, http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=292614
[03:47] <Ash_008> hey
[03:47] <CETBOR> hello?
[03:47] <gunfus> THX-1138: I don't have see it.. what is it called?
[03:47] <THX-1138> Disks?
[03:47] <gunfus> CETBOR: Just ask the question
[03:48] <Ash_008> how do i do the video setup thing to select the drivers and everything
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> odyssevs: "studying" the subject ;) ....try living it mate then you can talk about it, as before take it to another channel
[03:48] <CETBOR> Hello everyone
[03:48] <CETBOR> need your big help
[03:48] <gunfus> THX-1138: But I can't add new partitions
[03:48] <CETBOR> im try to create a new folder
[03:48] <THX-1138> Ash_008: VLC - mplayer
[03:48] <CETBOR> i get permission denied
[03:48] <gunfus> THX-1138: like say a my SMB shared
[03:48] <mich> i'm still lost
[03:48] <odyssevs> Paddy, yep yep.
[03:48] <Ash_008> that wont work
[03:49] <gunfus> CETBOR: do a 'sudo mkdir'
[03:49] <waxfactor2nd> alakazam thx i know that but after that can i still boot linux??? and when i try to boot from win cd it just gives me a blank black page what is the matter??
[03:49] <ponzo> Hello, I upgraded to Edgy and my X has broken
[03:49] <Ash_008> i need to chose my video drivers
[03:49] <THX-1138> gunfus - here is the link - i had no trouble seeing shared folders on the network until i tried sharing a folder on this machine. - then poof everything vanished. - (shrug) dunno
[03:49] <THX-1138> !samba
[03:49] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:50] <odyssevs> Mich, well buddy, your NIC won't connect to the router. Right?
[03:50] <mich> i can see the router
[03:50] <mich> but i don't get the net
[03:50] <waxfactor2nd> alakazam do you know how to make it work??
[03:50] <gunfus> THX-1138: okay
[03:50] <odyssevs> And the router lets otehr computers connect to the net?
[03:50] <mich> yes
[03:51] <davin> Hi guys, im trying to install cedega (cedega_5.0.1_i386.deb) with GDebi, but it tells me: 'Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs', What can I do?
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> odyssevs: this is what I was after incase you where interested "nautilus-terminal"
[03:51] <odyssevs> Ad it is giving a valid IP to your NIC?
[03:51] <mich> windows connects ubuntu mmm doesn't
[03:51] <ponzo> X just says "could not open default font 'fixed'"
[03:51] <Teoma> hi, can anyone help me change resolution using keystrokes only? I have Ubuntu running in a Virtual machine on WinXP and its running at 1600x900 @ 8 bit and I cant read a thing so cant use the mouse :)
[03:51] <THX-1138> davin - sounds a bit odd. no trouble like that here. - *maybe* install xlibs??
[03:52] <mich> idk how do i check
[03:52] <mich> ?
[03:52] <odyssevs> Paddy, never used it.. first day using Ubuntu.
[03:52] <odyssevs> mich, ifconfig ethX
[03:52] <CETBOR> is there way i can turn permission denied off?
[03:52] <odyssevs> X should be 0 if you have only one ethernet card plugged in.
[03:52] <Chousuke> hmm?
[03:52] <CETBOR> when i want to chmod, create, and etc
[03:52] <mich> in console?
[03:52] <davin> THX-1138: It tells me 'xlibs does not exist, but the follow packages replace it: libxftl xkeyboard-config'
[03:52] <odyssevs> yep
[03:52] <davin> THX-1138: No installable candidate
[03:52] <fredl> GNOME seems to be eating up more and more memory Hrmmm
[03:53] <THX-1138> CETBOR: sudo
[03:53] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[03:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:53] <Chousuke> CETBOR: you need to have access to the directory you're writing to. :P
[03:53] <odyssevs> Gnome does gobble up the juice alright.
[03:53] <CETBOR> why sudo?
[03:53] <fredl> is it normal that 'gnome-panel' eats up 14M RSS?
[03:53] <CETBOR> what sudo standard for?
[03:53] <odyssevs> do what super user can do
[03:53] <davin> THX-1138: libxftl does not exist, I have xkeyboard-config
[03:53] <THX-1138> davin - I don't know. - maybe there is help in #cedega
[03:53] <ponzo> Does anyone know anything about this problem?
[03:53] <Chousuke> switch-user do I think
[03:53] <CETBOR> ahhh thanks
[03:53] <Chousuke> sudo defaults to root though.
[03:53] <CETBOR> interesting
[03:54] <Chousuke> which is the superusers.
[03:54] <Chousuke> -s
[03:54] <odyssevs> ponzo, probably refers to FixedSys font.
[03:54] <THX-1138> davin - lib x font l   library???
[03:54] <Alakazam_> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:54] <davin> THX-1138 no idea
[03:54] <mich> eth0 inet 10.1.1.2
[03:54] <mich> i think so
[03:55] <THX-1138> davin - search for a how to - maybe all you need to do is add a symlink so they are seen by your new application?
[03:55] <odyssevs> mich, ping 10.1.1.1
[03:55] <Ash_008> how do i do a video driver wizard thin
[03:55] <ponzo> So how can I fix that problem
[03:55] <CETBOR> when i want to copy and paste to other folder using gui
[03:55] <CETBOR> i cant paste
[03:55] <davin> THX-1138: I got it! It was libxft1
[03:55] <mich> host inreachable
[03:55] <CETBOR> need permission to do it?
[03:55] <mich> un
[03:55] <odyssevs> You have a windows machine online at the moment?
[03:56] <mich> well
[03:56] <mich> yes
[03:56] <odyssevs> Which IP do you use to access the router?
[03:56] <mich> i'm using it to talk to u :)
[03:56] <davin> THX-1138: Still says 'Dependency not available: xlibs' though
[03:56] <THX-1138> CETBOR - gksudo nautilus or check out the link on the other very useful power user commands.
[03:56] <davin> THX-1138: satisfiable*
[03:56] <THX-1138> davin - Y-aay!
[03:57] <mich> 10.1.1.3    255.0.0.0    10.1.1.1
[03:57] <CETBOR> me using latest ubuntu and been installed today
[03:57] <odyssevs> Mich, double click the LAN connection icon beside the clock and tell me what gateway and netmask it's using.
[03:57] <CETBOR> im noob
[03:57] <CETBOR> me try to copy using mouse
[03:57] <THX-1138> davin - You enabled universe commuity supported and it became available?
[03:57] <CETBOR> not the command line
[03:57] <mich> in windows or ubuntu
[03:57] <Ash_008> blissex told me to do a command and it brought up a window asking me wat brand and everything my video card was how do i do that
[03:57] <CETBOR> need to find the administrator to set it full permission for anything?
[03:57] <xored> how to check, wheater an ethernet card is 10mbit or 100 mbit ?
[03:58] <davin> THX-1138: I thought it read 'libxftl' or 'libxtf1' but it was 'libxft1'
[03:58] <odyssevs> If you haev no icon beside the clock, then right click My Network Places (desktop), properties, rightclick LAN in use and properties.
[03:58] <odyssevs> Then "show icon on tray" etc.
[03:58] <mich> windows or ubuntu
[03:58] <THX-1138> CETBOR - trust me give it a try. gksudo nautilus. and read this,. you will be a linux power user in no time
[03:58] <ponzo> Bah, I really hate upgrading Ubuntu.
[03:58] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[03:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:58] <odyssevs> Or just go to start > run > cmd [hit enter] , ipconfig
[03:58] <odyssevs> mich, windows.
[03:58] <mich> i told u that
[03:59] <CETBOR> THX: url or i type "gksudo nautilus"
[03:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> im gettin bummed
[03:59] <mich> ip address 10.1.1.3
[03:59] <gh0st> hello, i can't upgrade to amarok 1.4.3, it says amarok & amarok-xine can not be upgraded!? i have amd64 version and added the amarok repos
[03:59] <odyssevs> OK
[03:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> i have to have my quake2 fix but haven't been able to play it
[03:59] <mich> sub 255.0.0.0
[03:59] <THX-1138> CETBOR: aw, give it a shot bring up a terminal
[03:59] <mich> gateway 10.1.1.1
[03:59] <odyssevs> Mich, earlier you said the Linux machine could see the router. If you can't ping the router IP from it, how is it seeing it?
[03:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> i haven't been able to figure out why my q2 doesn't laod in gl
[03:59] <[BTF] Chm0d> :(
[03:59] <ubuntubob> chm
[03:59] <davin> THX-1138: sudo apt-get install xlibs > xlibs does not exist, but is replaced by: libxft1 xkeyboard-config > sudo apt-get install libxft1 > libxft1 is the newest version > sudo apt-get install xkeyboard-config > xkeyboard-config is the newest version > still says 'Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs' when trying to install the .deb with GDebi :/
[03:59] <mich> wireless
[04:00] <ubuntubob> does glgears run?
[04:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> yea everything works
[04:00] <LazyAngel> i have upgraded my kernel. So i need to compile VMware modules for it. Isn't there a script for that?
[04:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> drivers are installed
[04:00] <odyssevs> Mich, so the Linux card isn't an ethernet one, but is wireless?
[04:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> nvidia screen upon start of x
[04:00] <mich> it got bouth
[04:00] <mich> and sude be working
[04:00] <odyssevs> Which is the default?
[04:01] <THX-1138> davin - I looked so very smart a minute ago.. - lol - now you show me that.  I am sorry i don't know what to do next
[04:01] <mich> how do i tell (only started with ubuntu)
[04:01] <Teoma> how do I get console open without a mouse in gnome?
[04:01] <davin> THX-1138: okay, no problem :-)
[04:01] <odyssevs> `route`
[04:01] <gh0st> hello, i can't upgrade to amarok 1.4.3, it says amarok & amarok-xine can not be upgraded!? i have amd64 version and added the amarok repos and installed the oringial amarok ubuntu version...
[04:01] <ponzo> So no one can help me?
[04:01] <odyssevs> ponzo, is it creating any noticable problems? =)
[04:02] <ponzo> odyssevs: That I can't start X? Yes.
[04:02] <xuburma1> hi ubuntu is deb packages? can install rpm?
[04:02] <CETBOR> THX
[04:02] <CETBOR> think i have problem
[04:02] <ponzo> xuburma1: Program named alien can help I think
[04:02] <THX-1138> xuburma1: Sure , use alien
[04:02] <odyssevs> Oh thought you only had a font problem? Is that the only error reported?
[04:02] <CETBOR> because i not have sound card installed on my system?
[04:02] <mich> i know what the f is going on now i think
[04:03] <odyssevs> mich, do tell me.
[04:03] <xuburma1> ponzo: can alien use synaptics???????????
[04:03] <THX-1138> !sound
[04:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:03] <ponzo> (EE) TDFX(0): [dri]  tdfx DRI not supported in 32 bpp mode, disabling DRI.
[04:03] <mich> destination 10.0.0.0 gateway 10.1.1.1 genmark 255.0.0.0
[04:03] <CETBOR> mmm i not have the card installed on my system
[04:04] <odyssevs> Hmm. That all?
[04:04] <CETBOR> me run that machine for lan party
[04:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> does everyone have a ld.so.conf?
[04:04] <CETBOR> not need sound card
[04:04] <xuburma1> ponzo: can i use alien with synaptics?
[04:04] <THX-1138> ponzo - maybe it will work in 24?
[04:04] <mich> mmm yes... =)
[04:04] <ubuntubob> ody, have you used cvs?
[04:04] <ponzo> xuburma1: You can install .deb -packages with dpkg -i package.deb
[04:04] <odyssevs> Mich, I had that earlier. First thing to try, ifdown eth0
[04:05] <odyssevs> then route add default gw 10.1.1.1 eth0
[04:05] <[BTF] Chm0d> may my problem be that I dont have an ld.so.conf?
[04:05] <odyssevs> then ifup eth0
[04:05] <odyssevs> ubuntubob, never.
[04:05] <mich> so what do i put in ?
[04:05] <ubuntubob> bugger
[04:05] <odyssevs> bring the card down: ifdown eth0
[04:05] <odyssevs> make the default gateway the correct ip: route add default gw 10.1.1.1 eth0
[04:05] <odyssevs> bring the card up: ifup eth0
[04:06] <odyssevs> if that doesn't work (and it didn't in my case), go into System > Administration > Networking and put the numbers in as though you're receiving a static IP.
[04:06] <xuburma1> ponzo:  can i install alien so that i can install rpm with synaptics??????????????????????
[04:06] <davin> THX-1138: lol, I used alien to convert a RedHat rpm of cedega and it actually works
[04:07] <mich> not working
[04:07] <THX-1138> ponzo - That's an excellent question.  -i don't have the answer
[04:07] <THX-1138> davin Xlnt
[04:07] <gh0st> how can i know if iuse totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[04:07] <odyssevs> mich, let's see the output of `route` - has it changed?
[04:07] <haydenAU>  /j #ubuntuos
[04:07] <blenderx> CoOL!
[04:07] <blenderx> I'm online!
[04:07] <mich> how do i cange it in network settings
[04:08] <mich> ?
[04:08] <blenderx> odyssevs, so officially, there is a problem w/ VIA rhine ethernet devices on Ubuntu..
[04:08] <odyssevs> select the Ethernet connection in the window, then hit properties.
[04:09] <odyssevs> obviously the box enabling that connection will be ticked... below you'll see configuration, change it to static IP and add in the details.
[04:09] <blenderx> done!
[04:09] <odyssevs> IP address.. you'll have to guess it, go for 10.1.1.3
[04:09] <odyssevs> and you know the rest.
[04:09] <odyssevs> then do.. ifdown eth0, ifup eth0
[04:10] <blenderx> Alright, I'm going to shutdown this machine, I'll be back using my ubuntu box.
[04:10] <gh0st> how can i know if iuse totem-gstreamer or totem-xine in totem, where are the multimediea settings in ubuntu?
[04:10] <odyssevs> blenderx, jolly good.
[04:10] <mich> gateway 10.1.1.1?
[04:10] <odyssevs> yup
[04:10] <erUSUL> gh0st: check which one you have instaled they are mutually exclusive you can't have both instaled
[04:11] <odyssevs> Don't ask me why, but I had the same problem earlier.. the route add command didn't work and leaving it on dhcp didn't work. Static did work.
[04:11] <gh0st> where are the multimediea settings in ubuntu?
[04:11] <ComputinChuck> i've got some headers that i just installed from an ubuntu package (they went into /usr/include), but g++ can't find them.  is there a header search path variable?  or do I have to update anything?
[04:11] <THX-1138> gh0st - gconf-editor???
[04:12] <keebler> Whats the best wireless USB stick to use under Ubuntu?
[04:12] <erUSUL> gh0st: gstreamer-properties is the closest thing to that
[04:12] <gh0st> THX:1138 isn't there something else?
[04:12] <gh0st> yes thanks erUSUL
[04:13] <scifi> anyone know a good ubuntu mysql walkthrough ?
[04:13] <gh0st> is totem-xine needed to be installed for amarok?
[04:13] <rkd> scifi: to do what?
[04:14] <[BTF] Chm0d> grrr can anyone point me in the right direction on questions about ld.so.conf?
[04:14] <scifi> rkd: ive installed it and started it, but i get permission denied when trying to connect as /usr/bin/mysqld_safe &
[04:15] <cpl-tnt44> i just connected my pcmcia wireless how can i define it ?
[04:16] <[BTF] Chm0d> id pull my hair out but i dont have any
[04:16] <tk> err... ok... where are the video settings akin to Kubuntu's "Display" properties in Kcontrol?
[04:16] <THX-1138> cpl-tnt44: there is a gui for wireless in the admin menu - did that work?
[04:16] <mich> o that was so evil
[04:17] <rkd> scifi: permission denied when starting the server, or connecting to it?
[04:17] <mich> lol
[04:17] <davin> whats a good torrent client for ubuntu?
[04:17] <tk> davin: I've always liked azuerus
[04:17] <ubuntubob> davin, try ktorrent
[04:17] <cpl-tnt44> THX , what is the admin menu and how can i get there ?
[04:17] <gh0st> is totem-xine needed to be installed for amarok?
[04:18] <davin> gh0st: use easyubuntu if you want to get amaroK to work
[04:18] <mich> still hir ?
[04:18] <THX-1138> !easyubuntu
[04:18] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:18] <Miles-Prower> Hi there
[04:19] <davin> gh0st: use the Multimedia Codecs option, itll install the necessary codecs for amaroK
[04:19] <Miles-Prower> I'm looking for a dev blog, a guy working on Powerpoint presentations, but I can't remember who it was or where it is
[04:19] <Miles-Prower> I *think* I found the link first on Planet
[04:19] <odyssevs> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDepABf9jOg jesus this is a classic.
[04:19] <davin> gh0st: 'Codecs' and 'Binary Codecs' in the Multimedia tab is enough
[04:20] <gh0st> davin: i get it to work without easyubuntu, however it's the version 1.3.9 (!)
[04:20] <tk> soooo.... there isnt a control panel/display manager that lets me turn on my 2nd display in ubuntu?
[04:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> how do i setup ld.so.conf?
[04:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> i dont even have one
[04:20] <gh0st> davin: i added the amarok repos from official site, but it says not installable (amd64)
[04:21] <mich> is till not working!
[04:21] <mich> still
[04:21] <odyssevs> mich, yes..
[04:21] <scifi> rkd: mysqld and mysql_safe are already running, so i guess its causing a conflict. but if i try to "create database name" it says command not found
[04:21] <odyssevs> mich, can't understand why you went offline?
[04:21] <mich> same ip
[04:21] <THX-1138> tk: nvidia is twinview and ati is xineram i believe
[04:21] <mich> from this computer and the other
[04:21] <tk> hmmm i guess its not as simple as in Kubuntu then :(
[04:21] <odyssevs> Ah *** sorry man, I meant to change the 3 to a 2. =(
[04:21] <tk> thanks THX-1138H
[04:22] <mich> i know lol is cool
[04:22] <odyssevs> Obviously you tried it with 2.
[04:22] <cpl-tnt44> THX , what is the admin menu and how can i get there ?
[04:22] <mich> 4
[04:22] <odyssevs> try 2.
[04:22] <THX-1138> !twinview
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <THX-1138> !xinerama
[04:22] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:22] <tk> THX-1138: twinview not in the repos?
[04:22] <davin> gh0st: ah no idea then, sorry, I thought you were hadding trouble getting the codecs to work
[04:23] <odyssevs> or go into your router and explicitly set the Linux ethernet card's MAC address against 10.1.1.4
[04:23] <rkd> scifi: can you paste your terminal in #flood?
[04:23] <rkd> scifi: or a pastebin
[04:23] <THX-1138> tk - give me a sec. did this a few days ago for nvidia
[04:23] <xuburma1> later guys
[04:23] <tk> THX-1138: thanks, I just reformated a kubuntu install that went bunk, and it was easy as pie... Ubuntu aint seeming as such :(
[04:24] <odyssevs> Anyone here running Ubuntu with the dm on a 300 MHz proc?
[04:24] <THX-1138> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4185.html
[04:24] <nattfodd> hi, I'm having problems with cups
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> how would I remove and delete a package using apt-get
[04:24] <nattfodd> I can't reactivate the web interface on localhost:631
[04:24] <odyssevs> Cups nearly put me off linux for life!
[04:24] <THX-1138> !samba
[04:24] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:24] <odyssevs> apt-get remove package_name
[04:24] <odyssevs> apt-get install package_name
[04:24] <nattfodd> even after following the README.Debian instructions and having everyone in the right group
[04:25] <odyssevs> (the Debian way.. no idea what Ubuntu uses).
[04:25] <THX-1138> !cups
[04:25] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:25] <POVaddct> odyssevs: the same
[04:26] <kdraw_> 
[04:26] <nattfodd> ubotu: I already saw all of that, and know cups too
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I already saw all of that, and know cups too - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <haydenAU> does clamav come with a gui?
[04:26] <porkpie> hi guys anyone here had the error grub loading please wait error 21
[04:26] <nattfodd> it's just tha gnome-cups-manager isn't working, and I can't reactivate administration through the webapp
[04:26] <scifi> rkd: i pasted it in #flood
[04:26] <Paddy_EIRE> odyssevs: yeah that works, but aint there a purge in there somewhere to ensure the folders that app created are deleted too
[04:26] <Overand> nattfodd: ubotu is a 'bot'
[04:26] <THX-1138> ubotu homer simpson is smarter than you are.
[04:27] <nattfodd> Overand: ah thanks, I should have guessed :)
[04:27] <tk> THX-1138: so just changing the option to twinview should work? thanks :)
[04:27] <odyssevs> Paddy, unless you use dpkg?
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[04:27] <THX-1138> tk - Yes, just editing xorg.conf should be all you need.
[04:27] <Overand> porkpie: what filesystem were you using for the boot drive?
[04:27] <cpl-tnt44> THX , what is the admin menu and how can i get there ?
[04:28] <odyssevs> I believe `remove` takes out the folders too... unlike purge.
[04:29] <rkd> scifi: are you starting it as sudo? you might need to do that to get the right perms
[04:29] <MyNick> does ubuntu and kubuntu come with the same software?
[04:29] <scifi> rkd: apparently i need to setup a root password first
[04:29] <POVaddct> odyssevs: no. remove leaves config files alone, while purge deletes them too
[04:29] <odyssevs> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/10/204207
[04:29] <rkd> scifi: sudo takes your normal user password
[04:29] <odyssevs> MyNick, see url.
[04:30] <odyssevs> POVaddct, oh. In 3 years of running Debian I've installed maybe 3 packages. =)
[04:30] <bf> how can i get a sense of eft stability (ie. remaining bugs)?  I potentiall want to upgrade my laptop, but would like to do some research first.
[04:30] <POVaddct> odyssevs: hehe
[04:30] <zorglu_> q. what is the default audio cd ripper in kubuntu ?
[04:30] <odyssevs> When you get it right, you end up never doing much.. which means you forget how the hell to use Linux!
[04:30] <mich> =( i'm lost / confused still
[04:31] <rkd> zorglu_: i think konqueror has ripping capabilities
[04:31] <odyssevs> mich, is /etc/network/interfaces configured properly?
[04:31] <rkd> audio:/ or something
[04:31] <odyssevs> You'll need a default gw in the route table I think, mich.
[04:32] <zorglu_> rkd: i was searching for a more dedicated tools. like grip but kde like
[04:32] <zorglu_> oh i will try kaudiocreator
[04:32] <zorglu_> rkd: thanks
[04:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> does anyone in here have any answers to the ld.so.conf file?
[04:34] <main2> im trying to install vncserver on kubuntu but it get 'vncserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[04:34] <main2> i do have the latest version of libstdc++/libc - these come with GCC, any ideas?
[04:34] <jorgino> hi there guys, i have the iso file from the latest version of ubuntu in a cd (6.06), how can i run the executable file?
[04:34] <kaur> after my laptop comes out from suspend, it keeps turning its fan on and off for every little while. Ideas? Can there be a problem with some module?
[04:34] <nattfodd> more specifically, the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface don't work
[04:35] <nattfodd> instead of the web interface asking me to login, I just get a 403 authorization denied
[04:35] <kaur> after my laptop comes out from suspend, it keeps turning its fan on and off for every little while. Ideas? Can there be a problem with some module?
[04:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> !ldconfig
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <scifi> how do i find my localmachine name on ubuntu ?
[04:36] <cpl-tnt44> anyone have a guide installing a wireless net card on ubuntu ?
[04:36] <kaur> after my laptop comes out from suspend, it keeps turning its fan on and off for every little while. Ideas? Can there be a problem with some module?
[04:37] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, which card?
[04:37] <odyssevs> Procedure is fairly standard,
[04:37] <rkd> scifi: hostname
[04:37] <aeroSoul> scifi: cat /etc/hostname
[04:37] <cpl-tnt44> D-link DWL 650+
[04:37] <scifi> ty
[04:37] <seik> hey guys
[04:38] <seik> this is probably a stupid question but do ya reckon I can put non apple hardware in my imac running ubuntu?
[04:38] <burly> how do you get realplayer to stream ram files from firefox
[04:38] <cpl-tnt44> odyssevs ?
[04:39] <jorgino> ubotu, do you know how to run the executable file from a iso image' cd
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you know how to run the executable file from a iso image' cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <odyssevs> Which version is it, cpl-tnt44?
[04:39] <cpl-tnt44> odyssevs , u have a guide for it ? bcz i need to put in WEP entries as well
[04:39] <Squaredge> hi all
[04:40] <cpl-tnt44> odyssevs , 5
[04:40] <odyssevs> Atheros chipset?
[04:40] <odyssevs> It's a .11b right?
[04:40] <Squaredge> i have a problem with mercury, can you help me ?
[04:40] <odyssevs> There were two 650+s, the man:168c dev:0013 works, the other doesn't.
[04:41] <michael> Hello all, I'm having a problem activating my on-board ethernet card, a Via Rhine II.
[04:41] <odyssevs> If it's the Atheros chipset then you're fine.
[04:41] <Beryl> can someone help me out with beryl?
[04:41] <cpl-tnt44> odyssevs , DWL-650+ thats all
[04:41] <POVaddct> odyssevs: 11b is probably not atheros
[04:41] <odyssevs> michael, a guy was in here earlier reporting that to be a problem.
[04:41] <odyssevs> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=D-Link says it is, POVaddct.
[04:41] <porkpie> hi what is the kernel name for the amd64 server iso
[04:41] <POVaddct> odyssevs: dwl-g650 is
[04:42] <michael> Was there a solution to the problem?
[04:42] <keebler> Whats the best wireless USB stick to use under Ubuntu?
[04:42] <odyssevs>  802.11b 	 DWL-650+ 	 man:168c dev:0013 	 Cardbus 	 Atheros 	 Mad WiFi 	 green  	 version A1 works; driver available at: http://madwifi.org
[04:42] <odyssevs> (green is that site's code for meaning it works fine under Linux.)
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> got it ...
[04:42] <cpl-tnt44> so what do i need to do now to make it work ?
[04:42] <odyssevs> michael, the bloke in question used a separate NIC to solve it.
[04:43] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, ndiswrapper.
[04:43] <michael> Blech, I've no more room for another NIC.
[04:43] <POVaddct> odyssevs: then this .nl site is telling b*llsh*t. the dwl-650+ has a TI chipset
[04:43] <odyssevs> POV, there are two 650+s. One has TI, the other has Atheros.
[04:44] <cpl-tnt44> ndiswrapper ? talk english
[04:44] <POVaddct> odyssevs: ah okay. i have a dwl-g650 rev c.1 here, that is definitely atheros
[04:44] <odyssevs> If his has the TI he can go buy another card.
[04:44] <michael> Ndiswrapper comes source only though :\
[04:44] <michael> Works perfectly, however.
[04:44] <Alakazam_> frostwire rocks
[04:44] <mich12> i think i need 2 go back to windows =(
[04:44] <Alakazam_> noooooooooooo mich
[04:44] <Alakazam_> i'll help you
[04:44] <POVaddct> odyssevs: while the dwl-g650 rev a.1 is prism54 based
[04:44] <Alakazam_> whats up
[04:44] <odyssevs> ndiswrapper not standard in Ubuntu!?!!
[04:44] <odyssevs> Christ this distro needs a serious overhaulling.
[04:45] <mich12> internet is fucked!
[04:45] <odyssevs> POV, Information I'm working on is at http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=D-Link
[04:45] <cpl-tnt44> odyssevs ,i have anather card , netgear one ...
[04:45] <POVaddct> michael: ndiswrapper is in ubuntu
[04:45] <Squaredge> i have a problem with mercury, can someone help me ?
[04:45] <michael> Pardon, I'm a previous Slackie, which on some PC's I installed it on required it
[04:45] <mich12> i tryed it now to fix it for 2-3hours
[04:45] <lupine_85> if I have a .mkv file(MPEG4 vid, 2 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks), what's the easiest way to turn it into a DVD? All the current instructions seem to revolve around .avi files, for some unknown reason... :(
[04:45] <odyssevs> Where's ndiswrapper, POV? I'm trying to do my first wifi myself actually.
[04:46] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: the brand is totally unimportant, you need to know the chipset
[04:46] <Alakazam_> mich
[04:46] <mich12> yes
[04:46] <POVaddct> odyssevs: it is installed by default in ubuntu
[04:46] <odyssevs> says command not found
[04:46] <lupine_85> !dvd
[04:46] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:46] <lupine_85> !authoring
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about authoring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <odyssevs> Is there a secret I'm the wrong side of?
[04:47] <cpl-tnt44> odyssevs , ok chipset ... and what ?
[04:47] <POVaddct> odyssevs: i thought ndiswrapper is a kernel module?
[04:47] <POVaddct> odyssevs: not a command
[04:47] <odyssevs> Which model number is the netgear?
[04:47] <blenderx> Hi!
[04:47] <odyssevs> POV, er, I've seen it as a command in other distros..
[04:47] <odyssevs> Hell, if it's compiled you get a command line.
[04:47] <mich12> why can't ubuntu be easy...?
[04:48] <POVaddct> odyssevs: i don't use ndiswrapper anyway, i use cards that run native on linux
[04:48] <odyssevs> Mich, try Debian if you want easy. =)))
[04:48] <blenderx> Yay!
[04:48] <cpl-tnt44> odyssevs , let it go for now ... i installed a netgear , power on ...
[04:48] <POVaddct> odyssevs: namely atheros (madwifi) and ralink (rt2570)
[04:48] <mich12> dedian>?
[04:48] <odyssevs> michael, the bloke in question has arrived - blenderx, you can consult with him over the VIA_Rhine.
[04:48] <cpl-tnt44> odyssevs , now how do i input the WEP codes ?
[04:48] <mich12> what that
[04:48] <michael> Thanks.
[04:48] <xjonex>  /join #ubuntu-fi
[04:49] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, POV is your man for that.
[04:49] <xjonex>  /join #xubuntu
[04:49] <cpl-tnt44> ok , POV ! , where do i input the WEP codes ?
[04:49] <xjonex>  /join #ubuntuforums
[04:49] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: before entering WEP keys, make sure the card is working at all
[04:49] <cpl-tnt44> how i do that ?
[04:50] <blag> Need ideas of new nick :) /q me please!
[04:50] <cpl-tnt44> POV , i see power on ...
[04:50] <blenderx> Yep, I had to plug another ethernet card to get TCP/IP. VIA rhine isn't really supported.
[04:50] <michael> blenderx, did you solve the VIA Rhine II problem?
[04:50] <michael> nm
[04:50] <michael> Craaaap
[04:50] <mich12> u ppl just don't speak englsih to me
[04:50] <blenderx> michael, no
[04:50] <tk> THX-1138: didnt quite work... manage to get X running with the modified config, but no display differences :(
[04:50] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: does "sudo iwlist scan" return any results?
[04:50] <michael> Dangit... I was looking forward to ICS ><
[04:50] <blenderx> michael, I plugged another ethernet card!
[04:51] <blenderx> :)
[04:51] <rkd> mich12: debian's the system ubuntu is based on
[04:51] <michael> I'ave no more room for an ethernet card
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> POv , where i put it in ?
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> terminal ?
[04:51] <odyssevs> Is the broadcom43 supported on Ubuntu, or do I have to go fishing with ndiswrapper?
[04:51] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: yes
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> sec
[04:51] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: and dont paste the output here
[04:51] <blenderx> michael, I got the kernel complaining at boot time about the VIA rhine thing
[04:52] <blenderx> it says: (through dmesg)
[04:52] <michael> blenderx, Let me check my own dmesg output
[04:52] <blenderx> via_rhine: device 0000:00:12.0 probe failed error -5
[04:52] <cpl-tnt44> Pov , all says lo , eth0,sit0 a;; interface doesnt suppor scanning ...
[04:52] <odyssevs> POV, what's the Ubuntu procedure for loading a wifi driver then (with ndiswrapper)?
[04:52] <michael> blenderx, I have no such error, it just says up n' down
[04:52] <tyuio> hey i have a rhine II
[04:52] <cpl-tnt44> im not
[04:53] <Lunar_Lamp> !ndiswrapper
[04:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:53] <blenderx> tyuio, does it work on Ubuntu 6.06?
[04:53] <michael> blenderx, eth1: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
[04:53] <POVaddct> odyssevs: i don't know, i don't use ndiswrapper
[04:53] <blenderx> guess yes..
[04:53] <tyuio> yep
[04:53] <mich12> what can bw wrong i can ping google but i don't get a webside....
[04:53] <mich12> be
[04:53] <blenderx> michael, then it's fine! isn't it?
[04:53] <michael> No
[04:53] <michael> It will not configure the interface
[04:53] <blenderx> why?
[04:53] <tyuio> mine may be an older one
[04:53] <michael> it will be lik e"configuring" and then just quit and go disabled again :\
[04:54] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: then you don't even have the card supported yes. no use in entering the WEP key now.
[04:54] <cpl-tnt44> so what do i do ?
[04:54] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, do lspci for us and see whether a chipset is mentioned.
[04:54] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: we need to find out the _exact_ type of the wifi card and which driver to use for it (if linux has support for it at all)
[04:54] <odyssevs> If it is the Asteros chipset we can get you up and running.
[04:55] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: do you see the card appear in the lspci output?
[04:55] <cpl-tnt44> i remember it does bcz i know i'v worked with it few months back with the same version of linux
[04:55] <odyssevs> Should be a half dozen entries from the bottom of the list produced by lspci, cpl-tnt44.
[04:55] <odyssevs> CPL, sure, but satisfy me anyway.
[04:55] <cpl-tnt44> Netgear 820.11b 16bit MA401
[04:56] <blenderx> michael, disable the networking service, check your /etc/network/* files
[04:56] <blenderx> manually, then re-enable the networking thing.
[04:56] <silent_scream> hi guys, i added 2 lines in my repos, but when i run "sudo apt-get update" it tells me something aboud "NO_PUBKEY" or something...How do i fix this?
[04:56] <odyssevs> That's a PCMCIA card, cpl-tnt44??
[04:56] <michael> blenderx, meaning I'll temporarily lose my connection, eh?
[04:56] <mich12> i give up
[04:56] <cpl-tnt44> YEAP !
[04:57] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, http://www.linux-wlan.org/
[04:57] <cpl-tnt44> im talking from my PC , but im trying to help my little laptop over here ...
[04:57] <blenderx> michael, the whole point is: if you got the kernel driver loaded and working then you already solved the 90% of the problem
[04:57] <mich12> windows = evil but works for me
[04:57] <odyssevs> mich12, sure, but Ubuntu had this problem with me earlier.
[04:57] <blenderx> michael, all the rest is just configuration stuff...
[04:57] <odyssevs> I configured it to be static and voila.. it worked. No idea why.
[04:57] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: 16bit pcmcia does not appear on pci bus, only cardbus
[04:57] <michael> Huh... now to figure out how to configure :\
[04:58] <mich12> it worked @ work 2
[04:58] <mich12> but not @ home
[04:58] <blenderx> michael, try to disable fancy stuff like DHCP, IPv6 (?), and all. and try again...
[04:58] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, in here ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/
[04:58] <cpl-tnt44> yeah im there ,,,
[04:59] <m40> hola
[04:59] <blenderx> OK. have to go.. my sister is requesting this PC for some work on Windows...
[04:59] <odyssevs> Since ndiswrapper isn't available from the command line, I haven't a clue what your next step should be.
[04:59] <cpl-tnt44> but im talking from my pc with winXp how can i put a use to these files ?
[04:59] <XiXaQ> I've installed two new harddisks. One is external and one internal. I'd like to have them automatically mounted when I boot and unmounted when I shut down. I also want them in Computer. How do I accomplish this?
[04:59] <blenderx> michael, good luck :)
[04:59] <m40> alguien que hable espaol?
[04:59] <odyssevs> In theory you introduce the .inf/.sys (windows driver) for the card to ndiswrapper, then tell it which pieces of hardware it drives, then modualise it.
[04:59] <blenderx> odyssevs, thanks for the nice chat.
[04:59] <Alakazam_> man i love linux
[04:59] <blenderx> bye.
[05:00] <Alakazam_> i havent been on a computer in 6 months.
[05:00] <cpl-tnt44> so POV , should i switch back to my D-link Airplus DWL-650+ ? bcz its 32bit card ... would be easier no ?
[05:00] <odyssevs> XiXaQ, fstab
[05:00] <odyssevs> !fstab
[05:00] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:00] <odyssevs> te he he
[05:00] <XiXaQ> isn't there any gui for it?
[05:00] <odyssevs> You need one?!
[05:00] <etzerd> Hello all
[05:00] <XiXaQ> I'd like one.
[05:01] <odyssevs> Quicker to do it manually.
[05:01] <etzerd> when is the next version will be out?
[05:01] <aeroSoul> XiXaQ: try the system menu in ubuntu.. -> disks
[05:01] <odyssevs> system > administration > disks ?
[05:01] <XiXaQ> I have no such option in my System > Administration menu.
[05:01] <cpl-tnt44> hellow ?
[05:02] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: the netgear card should be supported out of the box. is the the card? http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wlan%3Anetgearma401
[05:02] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, I'd personally use the PCMCIA.
[05:02] <michael> By the way, I'm running Kubby and not Ubby, #kubuntu had no one to help, but it's all the same to me :)
[05:02] <michael> I'll be back, time to try fancy configuring.
[05:02] <Psih0MAN> hello! i'm using ubuntu dapper and xmms for playing music. when i try to add a directory or drag and drop a directory onto an empty list, it crashes with segmentation fault. i've googled and found that xmms-flac or an defective id3 tag can crash xmms... i've disabled xmms-flac plugin and tried to load another dir, with the same results... any ideas, experiences for getting out of this situation?
[05:03] <flajz> hello. my screen has always been a little dark (even though brightness is set to max), so is there a way to increase the brightness in ubuntu?
[05:04] <RankorFodder> hey does anyone have stability issues with Mozilla on flash-heavy sites? i can't even install the latest flash for some reason.
[05:04] <Stevo> rank> i do i have that issue.  as far as i know, the latest flash for linux is 7
[05:05] <odyssevs> flajz, xgamma --help
[05:05] <Ensiferum> hello. is an usb stick supposed to be mounted automatically somewhere?
[05:05] <flajz> thank you, ill try
[05:05] <flajz> im new to linux, but man, ubuntu rocks :P
[05:05] <RankorFodder> Stevo: when i browse to adultswim.com moz tells me it wants to automatically load the flash plugin, then says there is none
[05:05] <RankorFodder> and it hangs when watching youtube videos sometimes
[05:06] <odyssevs> reinstall flash?
[05:06] <etzerd> is anybody in this channel ever try to install Debian?
[05:06] <odyssevs> Ensiferum, not sure.. some distros create an icon on the desktop when a USB storage device is plugged in.
[05:06] <odyssevs> Ensiferum, you can mkdir /usb and mount /dev/sdX
[05:07] <RankorFodder> ody: i have been thru all sorts of binge and purge install/uninstallings with flash. i think maybe moz is just shite
[05:07] <Ensiferum> odyssevs: those are my hard drives
[05:07] <odyssevs> although I see there's no sd* in /dev/ ... =|
[05:07] <Ensiferum> ah i fact there is
[05:07] <RankorFodder> have you followed the whole MoCo vs. Debian fiasco?
[05:08] <POVaddct> cpl-tnt44: still there?
[05:08] <Ensiferum> plugdev
[05:08] <bdragonmsl> Does anyone else using ubuntu have a their internet take a long time to load?
[05:08] <odyssevs> No.
[05:08] <odyssevs> bdragonmsl, is internet traffic loading at all?
[05:08] <bdragonmsl> yeah
[05:08] <printk> what does "their internet take a long time to load" mean?  slow web page browsing?  packetloss?
[05:08] <RankorFodder> bdragonmsl: could you be more specific with the symptoms?
[05:08] <bdragonmsl> it just takes a while and I have a good cable connection
[05:09] <bdragonmsl> pretty much printk
[05:09] <mich> @ list u get something
[05:09] <odyssevs> bdragonmsl, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/55412-slow-internet-ubuntu.html
[05:09] <mich> i don't
[05:09] <RankorFodder> on boot is it hanging while talking to dhcp? or does your browser take a long time to load?
[05:10] <bdragonmsl> I'll go to browse the internet and click on a page and it'll keep saying "looking up myspace.com/..."
[05:10] <bdragonmsl> browser just takes a long time to load
[05:10] <odyssevs> Yes that's a known problem, bdragonmsl.
[05:10] <odyssevs> See the URL above I pasted.
[05:11] <Volvo> hi, I have a warning in Yellow at the bottom right corner of the screen. It says, " If you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 40664 UDP open. Decentralised tracking requires this."
[05:11] <Volvo> then there is a HIDE button but it doesn't works
[05:11] <odyssevs> Volvo, CIA must be after you!
[05:11] <Volvo> how should I remove it ?
[05:11] <brutopia> can I somehow limit network access by process with iptables
[05:12] <odyssevs> brutopia, absolutely. What are you looking to do exactly?
[05:12] <Volvo> odyssevs, CIA why ?
[05:12] <brutopia> I would like to provide network access for firefox only
[05:12] <Outrunner-Pt> hey ppl
[05:12] <odyssevs> brutopia, you mean a specific browser? I'm not certain iptables handles that.
[05:12] <brutopia> no other process shouldn't be able to connect anywhere
[05:13] <RankorFodder> man. Mozilla was rock solid when i was running the XP flavor, but under ubuntu, it's like a hemopheliac baby in a knife factory.
[05:13] <brutopia> odyssevs: not specific browser, specific process
[05:13] <Chousuke> You can get halfway there by completely blocking all ports other than 80
[05:14] <brutopia> I know that but I was asking that is it possible to limit by process
[05:14] <bdragonmsl> Thanks for your help odyssevs
[05:14] <Ensiferum> yay, managed to mount my phone. thanks odyssevs
[05:14] <odyssevs> --uid-owner userid does it, brutopia.
[05:14] <odyssevs> http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/packet-filtering-HOWTO-7.html
[05:14] <POVaddct> brutopia: it is possible to limit for a process id (PID), but not for a process name (would be too easy to fake)
[05:15] <POVaddct> odyssevs: --uid-owner limits to a speficic user, not process
[05:15] <brutopia> do you know how it is done on windows with f-secure or symantec firewall
[05:16] <Chousuke> POVaddct: you could probably make the firefox process run as a separate user, then
[05:16] <brutopia> there is some checksum calculated for process which is allowed to connect?
[05:16] <POVaddct> Chousuke: could work, but then all users would have the same browser settings, cache, etc.
[05:17] <Chousuke> yeah :/
[05:17] <POVaddct> brutopia: i don't know how f-secure handles that. i don't use windows.
[05:18] <Caius> !ubuntu
[05:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:19] <RankorFodder> i used to use windows up untill 2 weeks ago.. M$ Genuine Advantage decided my $130 legally purchased XP licence wasnt "Genuine" enough, so i said screw it and let ubuntu have the whole hdd.
[05:19] <ArtVandalae> How can I tell if I have the Java SDK and not just Java RE?
[05:19] <POVaddct> brutopia: if you want to limit network to a specific process binary (inode of the filesystem), i can't be done with standard linux. rsbac (a kernel patch providing a security framework) can do that. but rsbac is not easy to configure.
[05:20] <mich> sorry to waist ur time ppl thankx for all the help but i'm not a ubuntu person , i'm goner go abck to windows xp
[05:20] <RankorFodder> the sad thing is, i actually get higher FPS in CS:S emulated under cedega than i got natively in XP
[05:20] <RankorFodder> mich: plz come back when you are sick of Vista eventually. :-D
[05:21] <mich> i don't have vista xp home
[05:21] <odyssevs> Actually mich's problem can be easily solved.
[05:21] <RankorFodder> yea, but M$ will eventually stop supporting XP and try to force you to use vista
[05:21] <mich> easy to u hard for me
[05:22] <XiXaQ> POVaddct, if you can run javac, then you have the SDK installed.
[05:22] <darkanyel> anyone can explain me what mean this??: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[05:22] <mich> i only had ubuntu on my notebook for 5hours
[05:22] <odyssevs> If I had an exactly solution I'd have shared it with you, mich.
[05:22] <m1sh-L> i will install compiz-plugin but there is a error: Depends: csm (>=0.5) but it is not installable
[05:22] <SkippyX> RankorFodder, They will. But it's going to take a long time for that to happen. I think I read that MS just stopped supporting win 98.
[05:22] <m1sh-L> whar can i do?
[05:22] <POVaddct> XiXaQ: huh? i didnt ask a java question
[05:22] <SkippyX> That's almost 10 years of support.
[05:22] <XiXaQ> POVaddct, heh, sorry...
[05:22] <odyssevs> I had the same one myself earlier (an hour into Ubuntu) and solved it quite accidentally... why/how is a mystery.
[05:23] <XiXaQ> ArtVandalae, if you can run javac then you have Java SDK installed..
[05:23] <RankorFodder> SkippyX: yea, but for all the BS i've been thru with my perfectly legal licence that they wanted me to pay for AGAIN, i bet others are getting fed up with it too
[05:23] <odyssevs> Microsoft is scheduled to be pulled anyway.
[05:23] <odyssevs> Along with Sony and Motorola and Nokia.
[05:23] <mich> i think is a problem with my dlink 604T and my notebook
[05:23] <odyssevs> Four companies you'll see collapse.
[05:23] <ArtVandalae> XiXaQ: nope, no javac. The only thing is, I have Eclipse installed, doesn't that mean that I have to have the JavaSDK installed?
[05:23] <SkippyX> RankorFodder, Hmm. Yeah - that's another issue - and one that will continue to drive individual migrations.
[05:23] <darkanyel> anyone can explain me what mean this??: "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" plz
[05:24] <SkippyX> odyssevs, I've not heard anything about all that.
[05:24] <brutopia> btw, is there some way to automatically disable the touchpad when external mouse is connected
[05:24] <m40>  estudio ingenieria electronica, soy nuevo con el linux, necesito un software similar al proteus para linux. existe?
[05:24] <XiXaQ> ArtVandalae, that means you _should_ have the SDK installed. I've never used Eclipse, but I think it's a native one?
[05:24] <RankorFodder> SkippyX: actually, i have to be thankful for their fascist practices, because it drove me right into a Ubuntu system and i havent looked back
[05:24] <POVaddct> brutopia: is the external mouse a usb one?
[05:24] <odyssevs> SkippyX, long term - which obviously lets me off the hook to prove the hypothesis, but it's my reckoning. A hunch.
[05:24] <mich> thankx for ur help odyssevs ....
[05:24] <ArtVandalae> XiXaQ: where would the Java SDK lie in the directory tree, I could just look for it there?
[05:24] <brutopia> POVaddct: yes
[05:24] <XiXaQ> ArtVandalae, Eclipse doesn't provide a SDK I think.
[05:24] <odyssevs> Mich buddy, man route.
[05:24] <adsf_> hey ppl
[05:25] <odyssevs> Mich, you'll get it eventually.
[05:25] <adsf_> could ya help me a bit
[05:25] <POVaddct> brutopia: then try: sudo rmmod psmouse
[05:25] <SkippyX> RankorFodder, 'twas win98se that drove me to linux (mdk 7.2), been in the *nix environtment ever since.
[05:25] <RankorFodder> ody: i dont think any of those 4 companies will ever "go under" so much as merge, be bought out, etc.
[05:25] <ArtVandalae> XiXaQ: oh okay. Can I pull down the SDK via apt-get?
[05:25] <adsf_> I installed ubuntu on a comp with 128mb ram and 400mhz and this is reaaaaallly friggin slow
[05:25] <odyssevs> RankorFodder, dunno I think Microsoft is in for a seriously pulling.
[05:25] <brutopia> POVaddct: do you have any idea how to do that automatically
[05:25] <adsf_> is there some way to get this faster <.<
[05:25] <tamale> How do I install a new gigabit ehternet PCI controller card in my ubuntu system?  I installed the card but upon reboot I don't have anything new listed when I run "lspci".  Help!
[05:25] <odyssevs> Hell what's the difference, the US is facing a depression.
[05:25] <Abst> Does anyone know why I cant install W32codecs?
[05:25] <mich> cya ppl
[05:25] <ArtVandalae> adsf_: yeah, it needs more RAM, or you should try something like fluxbuntu
[05:25] <XiXaQ> ArtVandalae, not sure. I'm installing it manually myself.
[05:25] <Abst> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[05:25] <ArtVandalae> Abst, any errors?
[05:26] <pdavid> can anyone lend a hand getting an external dvdrw mounted?
[05:26] <pdavid> using dapper
[05:26] <odyssevs> tamale, I would have suggested modconf but it doesn't appear to exist in Ubuntu.
[05:26] <POVaddct> brutopia: maybe in some udev scripts. udev should recognize the plugging of a usb hid device
[05:26] <pdavid> my dmesg output is
[05:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell Abst about w32codecs
[05:26] <adsf_> ArtVandalae, is there a way to just install that fluxbox to this one?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> Abst: its not in the repos please read the restricted formats site that ubotu will post to your om
[05:26] <ArtVandalae> adsf_: yep
[05:26] <gnomefreak> pm
[05:26] <tamale> odyssevs: Any other ideas?
[05:26] <ArtVandalae> adsf_: but I'm not the right person to ask, try google it
[05:26] <m40> HOLA  necesito saber si existe un software similar al PROTEUS para linux
[05:26] <RankorFodder> SkippyX: i think a lot of ppl are going to be mad when Vista breaks their 2 year old systems. i bet a lot of migration will happen when upgrade costs rise
[05:26] <superkirbyartist> How do I use Thunderbird in Nautilus?
[05:26] <SpudDogg> What a beautiful Oct 1
[05:27] <odyssevs> SkippyX, how well do you reckon Ubuntu will run on a 300 MHz 128 MB machine?
[05:27] <michael> Messing around with /etc/network helped 0%.
[05:27] <POVaddct> brutopia: i don't have an ubuntu system here right now, so i can't test
[05:27] <adsf_> I'll just try to get it with synapsis or wat ever
[05:27] <m40> ayuda
[05:27] <SkippyX> odyssevs, Not too well, I'd imagine. I'd be thinking a roll your own variant would be best there.....
[05:27] <POVaddct> odyssevs: i'd use xubuntu (no gnome, but xfce) on such a machine
[05:27] <bou9al> hi all
[05:28] <odyssevs> You're the second person to recommend xfce today.. must look into it.
[05:28] <superkirbyartist> SkippyX: It works pretty well on 400mhz, a little slow.
[05:28] <SpudDogg> Can someone tell me how to read partitions on my HD?  I have another Linux distro installed on my hda2, but I need to read it from Ubuntu.  Is this possible?
[05:28] <POVaddct> odyssevs: it's really cool
[05:28] <xenoNfluX> I run Ubuntu Server on a 633 Celeron/512MB RAM/20GB HDD :)
[05:28] <SkippyX> RankorFodder, could be.
[05:28] <michael> xfce is quite blazing.
[05:28] <bou9al> I'm lookind for documentatin on how to install ubuntu on vmware
[05:28] <superkirbyartist> Both desktop and server work on 400mhz.
[05:28] <Abst> Thanks
[05:28] <pdavid> using xfce here, and it is really, really fast
[05:28] <gh0st333> how can i use *only* some packages of ubuntu edgy in dapper?
[05:28] <POVaddct> odyssevs: even the old xfce3 (gtk1-based) is nice
[05:28] <RankorFodder> SkippyX: or maybe i'm among a small minority that feels the price of windows is far too great for the home desktop user
[05:29] <RankorFodder> yyou never know
[05:29] <adsf_> I friggin knew this wouldnt work..
[05:29] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: you just have to mount them on an empty directory. then you can go into that partition just like another directory. read about "mount" and see your /etc/fstab file
[05:29] <superkirbyartist> Personally, never tried Xubuntu.  It kills your bandwith.
[05:29] <superkirbyartist> (Ed)Ubuntu will work, but a little slow.
[05:29] <pdavid> so dmesg output shows my dvdrw being recognized, and attached at sg2
[05:29] <SkippyX> RankorFodder, that's the conclusion I came to. price is too high both in beer and speech terms.
[05:29] <odyssevs> What's the trick to setting up xfce in lieu of gnome?
[05:29] <pdavid> but all attempts to mount it fail miserably, because it shows up as a character device, not block device
[05:29] <gh0st333> how can i use *only* some packages of ubuntu edgy in dapper?
[05:29] <Abst> Anyone know what Id need to play this? http://www.srobbin.com/africam.php
[05:29] <RankorFodder> amen to that
[05:29] <darkanyel> how can i install the driver ati in egdy eft????
[05:29] <skpl> can someone please help me? i am having trouble connecting to the internet under ubuntu
[05:29] <POVaddct> odyssevs: what is "lieu"?
[05:29] <superkirbyartist> Go to http://xubuntu.com
[05:29] <superkirbyartist> There is a Ubuntu to XUbuntu section.
[05:30] <POVaddct> odyssevs: sorry, i am not a native english speaker
[05:30] <odyssevs> POVaddct, in place of, instead of.
[05:30] <RankorFodder> skpl: what exactly is the issue?
[05:30] <t0taln00b> hey all
[05:30] <SkippyX> skpl - dial-up? DSL?
[05:30] <pdavid> relevant dmesg output is here: http://pastebin.ca/187869
[05:30] <skpl> RankorFodder, when i tried to open a webpage it said it could not connect to the server
[05:30] <SpudDogg> mister_roboto: is the mounting part done from in Ubuntu?  See I need to read the /boot directory from my Back|Track install so I can make grub recognize it as a bootable OS
[05:30] <pdavid> any ideas?
[05:30] <POVaddct> odyssevs: there is a xfce metapackage: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <t0taln00b> i have just one question :)
[05:30] <RankorFodder> skpl: ok, so when the system boots, does it hang when it says "Starting DHCP"?
[05:30] <rkd> t0taln00b: go on
[05:31] <skpl> RankorFodder, no it booted up fine
[05:31] <odyssevs> POV, I presume this then asks whether xfce should replace gnome as the default window manager?
[05:31] <POVaddct> odyssevs: install it and choose session type XFCE when logging in
[05:31] <odyssevs> magic thanks.
[05:31] <skpl> RankorFodder, i just cannot pull up any webpages in firefox
[05:31] <adsf_> aargh
[05:31] <RankorFodder> skpl: are you on a cable modem, dsl, dialup?
[05:31] <flajz> what "system tray"-program do you guys use? I dont know which is the best
[05:31] <superkirbyartist> Install server with xubuntu-desktop.
[05:31] <POVaddct> odyssevs: no, gdm/kdm lets you choose the session type on login
[05:31] <adsf_> I have ubuntu hoary <.<
[05:31] <superkirbyartist> BOO!
[05:31] <adsf_> I thought this would work on this
[05:31] <supermiguel> when i try to open an rpm file on my laptop it says archive type not supported but when i try onmy desktop it let me install it
[05:31] <superkirbyartist> OLD SCHOOL.
[05:31] <supermiguel> what can i do
[05:32] <adsf_> -.-'
[05:32] <skpl> RankorFodder, cable, rr.com
[05:32] <Alakazam_> whats the latest SMP kernel i can use W/ ubuntu?
[05:32] <darkanyel> how can i install the driver ati in egdy eft????
[05:32] <t0taln00b> when i get to the poing of partitioning to resize and use freed space installer just sits there doing nothing :(
[05:32] <skpl> RankorFodder, i think it might be my wireless connection
[05:32] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: if you need grub to scan your disk to see another bootable partition, that's a different issue. if you just wanna mount it and use it for read/write while you're running ubuntu, you use "mount" and/or put it in your fstab
[05:32] <superkirbyartist> !thunderbird nautilus
[05:32] <POVaddct> omg, it's sunday...
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thunderbird nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <superkirbyartist> !thunderbird
[05:32] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[05:32] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: not sure offhand how to have grub rescan for other OS's
[05:32] <t0taln00b> can someone explain me what's happening?
[05:33] <Renan_s2> !info pan
[05:33] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[05:33] <Renan_s2> !info pan edgy
[05:33] <t0taln00b> installer doesnt work as intended
[05:33] <skpl> RankorFodder, any ideas?
[05:33] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[05:33] <pdavid> no help on mounting a simple external usb dvdrw?
[05:33] <SkippyX> That's a handy URL.
[05:33] <adsf_> hey ppl help me duh <.<
[05:33] <RankorFodder> skpl: im not sure, im looking for an automatic DHCP script
[05:33] <superkirbyartist> How do you setup thunderbird with nautilus?
[05:34] <supermiguel> when i try to open an rpm file on my laptop it says archive type not supported but when i try onmy desktop it let me install it
[05:34] <adsf_> I want this ubuntu to work on 400mhz and 128mb ram
[05:34] <t0taln00b> im using edgy beta and have an installer problem
[05:34] <superkirbyartist> adsf_: It will.
[05:34] <adsf_> this is slooooow
[05:34] <renaud> adsf_, try xfce instead of gnome
[05:34] <RankorFodder> skpl: you need to make sure that 1) your ubuntu can use your eth0 card, and 2) DHCP is auto grabbing you an IP
[05:34] <adsf_> I want fluxbox or sumthin
[05:34] <adsf_> I cant find xfce from synaptic
[05:34] <skpl> RankorFodder, how would i go about making sure it is doing that?
[05:34] <SpudDogg> mister_roboto: If you go to /boot/grub/menu.lst you will see all the items that are in the grub menu.  I am trying to put the boot info for Back|Track in there, but I cannot figure out what I need to put in there.  What I was hoping to do was to read Back|Track's /boot folder.  Do you happen to know an easier way?
[05:34] <superkirbyartist> renaud: What does xfce do?  How do you install?
[05:34] <XiXaQ> t0taln00b, #Ubuntu+1
[05:35] <adsf_> oiooo
[05:35] <lostinc> Hi I have stuff in my trash can that the empty trash command will not empty any way to get rid of it?
[05:35] <adsf_> nvm
[05:35] <ArtVandalae> XiXaQ: got it working, thanks
[05:35] <skpl> RankorFodder, i also noticed that i am on a wireless connection yet when i checked 'networking' under my admin menu it said my wireless connection was not yet configured
[05:35] <RankorFodder> skpl: from within Ubuntu, go to System > Administration > Networking
[05:35] <coshida> been about 2 yrs since was last down in these "help channels" & its changed just bit lol !! busy busy -nice to see linux is growing ^^
[05:35] <adsf_> owww...
[05:35] <XiXaQ> ArtVandalae, Great :)
[05:35] <adsf_> how can I find that xfce?
[05:35] <THX-1138> superkirbyartist: xubuntu - it's a little less ram hungry but much less refined.
[05:35] <odyssevs> Mark universe as repository? What does this mean exactly? Am I to select all "installation media" which has "(Universe)" in the description? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/InstallationNdiswrapper refers.
[05:35] <renaud> superkirbyartist, it's ligher than gnome, you should just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <adsf_> I isnt on synaptic
[05:36] <tamale> How do I install a new gigabit ehternet PCI controller card in my ubuntu system?  I installed the card but upon reboot I don't have anything new listed when I run "lspci".  Help!
[05:36] <renaud> adsf_, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <superkirbyartist> What is the lib dir for nautilus-sendto?
[05:36] <mickvd1> hey, i have a problem, i have installed ubuntu server 6.10 on a compaq prestatio 2282, but it dont boot (Uncompessing linux... Ok, booting kernel) but it dont boot
[05:36] <RankorFodder> skpl: try and use that networking configuration tool to set up your wireless.. i dont use wireless, so i dunno about drivers, etc. but you probably need the correct device driver installed
[05:36] <skpl> RankorFodder, ok i will go mess with that and then be back.
[05:36] <Nookie> !wow
[05:36] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[05:37] <RankorFodder> skpl: you should also try and browse around the manufacture's website to see if they have a linux driver for it
[05:37] <superkirbyartist> !nautilus-sendto
[05:37] <supermiguel> when i try to open an rpm file on my laptop it says archive type not supported but when i try onmy desktop it let me install it
[05:37] <ubotu> nautilus-sendto: integrates Evolution and Gaim into the Nautilus file manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 640 kB
[05:37] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: oh, i see. well, hda is 0, first partition is 0 and they go up from there. the other values you should be able to figure out from how it's getting your current boot settings (the kernel and initrd lines)
[05:37] <adsf_> renaud, it cant find the package
[05:37] <superkirbyartist> !nautilus-sendto lib dir
[05:37] <renaud> adsf_, try googleing ubuntuguide
[05:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys can anyone help me with this error?
[05:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> /dev/dsp: Broken pipe
[05:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> Could not toggle.
[05:38] <adsf_> renaud, hard to do it because this is so friggin slow
[05:38] <adsf_> takes ages to load the browser and websites
[05:38] <SpudDogg> mister_roboto: Ubuntu is installed on hda1, B|T on hda2, and my swap is hda4.
[05:38] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: so the only tricky part is getting the disk/partition right where your other boot partition is located
[05:38] <mister_roboto> hd(1,1)
[05:38] <superkirbyartist> I would like the nautilus-sendto lib dirs.
[05:39] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: sorry, hd(0,1)
[05:39] <RankorFodder> afk a bit, i need to do some paperwork in my office
[05:39] <adsf_> ......
[05:39] <SpudDogg> mister_roboto: so to boot into B|T, i should put hd(0,2)?
[05:39] <supermiguel> when i try to open an rpm file on my laptop it says archive type not supported but when i try onmy desktop it let me install it
[05:39] <adsf_> always loads of problems with linux .__.
[05:40] <Audimage> i forgot how to add repositories, where do i get the list?
[05:40] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg:  if it's hda2, that is hd(0,1)
[05:40] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: hda1 is hd(0,0
[05:40] <SpudDogg> mister_roboto: yea, ok i got that.  now how do i find the kernel and initrd lines?
[05:40] <THX-1138> supermiguel: Did you have "alien" installed on both systems?
[05:40] <adsf_> I'll just get Windows 98 for this comp ;D
[05:41] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: you just need to point it at the right vmlinuz file and initrd.img file. use whatever is the latest version from the /boot directory
[05:41] <SpudDogg> mister_roboto: actually, im just going to try to boot into b|T now.  Thanks for the help man!  I have a feeling I'll be right back :)
[05:41] <supermiguel> THX-1138: i dont think so
[05:41] <THX-1138> adsf_ - older computer and still want a server? try DSL Damn Small Linux.
[05:42] <THX-1138> supermiguel: the debian.org site has some options for you also.
[05:42] <adsf_> THX-1138, no I just want fluxbox for this  ._.
[05:42] <THX-1138> adsf_ - fluxbox - yep.
[05:42] <adsf_> I want to use this for browsing and stuff
[05:43] <adsf_> THX-1138, but I cant find fluxbox from synaptic
[05:43] <Zaggynl> Is there a way to revert to the older version of a program you got with apt-get ?
[05:43] <THX-1138> adsf_ - Enable universe community suppprted?
[05:43] <silent_scream> I installed beryl! so how do i change the default window manager?
[05:43] <stu_> hi, having some issues with ndiswrapper, I can install the driver and it tells me the hardware is present however I cant modprobe ndiswrapper, I get invalid argument
[05:43] <JB[away] > hey guys, pleaseeeeeeee fix the fucking apache mod_proxy bug ........................................
[05:44] <adsf_> THX-1138, lol how
[05:44] <stu_> also, I cant use ndiswrapper to manipulate drivers, it tells me that no versions of ndiswrapper are installed, I have to use ndiwrapper-1.1
[05:44] <stu_> so I thought I would download ndiswrapper and install it but when I make it tells me it cant find kernel build modules, although I do have build essentials installed
[05:44] <XiXaQ> How do I make a .deb package from an installer?
[05:44] <supermiguel> does any one know how can i play internet explorer games on firefox?
[05:44] <RedGhost> How can I disable drives being shown as desktop icons??
[05:44] <THX-1138> adsf_ - using synaptic.  settings .. repositories
[05:44] <odyssevs> stu_, why not just apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils ?
[05:44] <adsf_> kkk
[05:45] <stu_> odyssevs: thats how I installed it he first time
[05:45] <POVaddct> XiXaQ: you mean from the live cd?
[05:45] <XiXaQ> supermiguel, What do you mean by Internet Explorer games? Java or Flash?
[05:45] <stu_> its installed now that way, when I type ndiswrapper it tells me no versions of ndiswraper are installed
[05:45] <supermiguel> xixa neither
[05:45] <stu_> I have to use ndiswrapper-1.1
[05:45] <stu_> which isntalls the driver, but I cant modprobe
[05:45] <Zaggynl> is there a way to revert to the previous version of a package?
[05:45] <supermiguel> XiXaQ: is a game that requieres internet explorer to lunch
[05:45] <XiXaQ> POVaddct, no, installed system... I want to make a package from java sdk and netbeans installers.
[05:45] <THX-1138> stu_ - sudo apt-get install  linux-headers-'uname -R'   i believe that is the command
[05:46] <odyssevs> POV, is there a procedure which tests whether it's necessary to use ndiswrapper?
[05:46] <stu_> THX-1138: I have the headers installed to
[05:46] <THX-1138> stu_ - when in doubt use synaptic
[05:46] <XiXaQ> supermiguel, then you probably can't. There is a way to install ie in ubuntu, but I don't remember the name.. ie4linux?
[05:46] <XiXaQ> ask google.
[05:46] <Zaggynl> yep
[05:46] <Zaggynl> ie4linux it is
[05:46] <stu_> I installed ndiswrapper, build essentials and kernel headers using synaptic
[05:46] <RedGhost> How can I disable drives being shown as desktop icons??
[05:46] <THX-1138> stu_ - possible mismatch? headers to kernel?
[05:46] <odyssevs> iwconfig is showing my wifi card as eth1, and has the right chipset listed as 'nickname'.. gives me the impression the system knows the card.
[05:46] <POVaddct> odyssevs: no automated one i think. you have to know which card it is and then google
[05:46] <patxi> hola cual es el canal de ubuntu en espaol?
[05:46] <stu_> odyssevs: I doubt it this box has never been on the net all packages come from the same CD
[05:47] <THX-1138> !es
[05:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:47] <patxi> ok thanks!
[05:47] <THX-1138> de nada
[05:47] <odyssevs> !fi
[05:47] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[05:47] <SpudDogg> mister_roboto: you still here?
[05:47] <NotWired> !fr
[05:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:48] <gh0st333> how can i run the first-time wizard again?
[05:48] <THX-1138> Plkease don't wear out the bot or flood the channel
[05:48] <ntc> hey i got a big problem here...
[05:48] <ntc> I removed my self from the sudoers..
[05:48] <ntc> how can i fix this?
[05:48] <ntc> I cant do shit now :S
[05:49] <mister_roboto> yes
[05:49] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: yes i'm still here
[05:49] <ntc> my login is ntc
[05:49] <ntc> and i did this
[05:49] <THX-1138> We only pay ubotu elf  by the word - too many questions and the tiny elf stamps his feet and goes home.
[05:49] <ntc> usermod -G ftpuser ntc
[05:49] <ntc> :/
[05:49] <SpudDogg> mister_roboto: i think i have this figured out now
[05:49] <ntc> I followed something i shouldnt doo
[05:49] <tamale> How do I install a new gigabit ehternet PCI controller card in my ubuntu system?  I installed the card but upon reboot I don't have anything new listed when I run "lspci".  Help!
[05:49] <mister_roboto> SpudDogg: ok, good :)
[05:49] <ntc> pla help :(
[05:50] <ntc> plz*
[05:50] <THX-1138> !ask
[05:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:50] <Lunar_Lamp> ntc - log in as root and do "visudo"
[05:50] <FRET> hey all
[05:50] <THX-1138> Hi FRET
[05:50] <ntc> is that possible, i didnt think there was a root acc on ubuntu
[05:50] <FRET> hi THX-1138
[05:50] <Jaak_> is maya 7 latest for linux?
[05:51] <Lunar_Lamp> not by default, no ntc - sorry, i keep forgetting, i always set one up as default straight away
[05:51] <ntc> :(
[05:51] <ntc> that tells me im in big trouble^^
[05:51] <RedGhost> How can I disable drives being shown as desktop icons??
[05:51] <tamale> If I have a software RAID 5 setup, on separate drives from my ubuntu OS, can I reinstall ubuntu and keep the software raid 5 intact?
[05:51] <Lunar_Lamp> ntc - def fixable - i think you need to use safe-mode - but i;'m not sure how to do it- you trtied googling?
[05:51] <THX-1138> Jaak_ - heard something about a purchase of the maya folks by autodesk. - likely yes
[05:52] <ntc> yeah, but i didnt find any solution Lunar_Lamp
[05:52] <dzer0> hello
[05:52] <dzer0> I installed ubuntu server using the install a lamp server option
[05:52] <dzer0> and I don't think my PHP is working
[05:52] <ntc> I tryed the ubuntuforums too, but no reply so far
[05:52] <THX-1138> !php
[05:52] <mister_roboto> ntc: you could always just boot with the live cd, then mount your other partition and edit the sudoers file again
[05:53] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[05:53] <dzer0> I just uploaded a script to the server and I get this error:
[05:53] <dzer0> Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[05:53] <dzer0> Warning: Unknown: Failed opening '/var/www/index.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[05:53] <oona> hello, does anyone here have any experience with the 'diskmounter' script? or how to mount windows partitions and have them displayed on teh desktop?
[05:53] <POVaddct> ntc: boot your system with the following added in grub command line: init=/bin/sh     it should boot to a bash prompt, there you type: mount -n -o remount,rw /     then you can edit sudoers with vi or nano. then do:    mount -n -o remount,ro /    and reboot
[05:53] <ntc> mister_roboto, oh i see
[05:53] <THX-1138> Gah! - roll up your pants legs the flood is here. - please don't do that...
[05:53] <THX-1138> !paste
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:54] <ntc> okey heh
[05:54] <ntc> thx ppls
[05:54] <ntc> im gonna give this a try
[05:54] <ntc> brb
[05:54] <oona> can someone tell me how to have ubuntu show my windows partitions on the desktop?
[05:54] <earthian> hello
[05:55] <dzer0> so does anyone know why my php doesnt work?
[05:55] <surgy> hi
[05:55] <tamale> dzer0: #php  :)
[05:55] <odyssevs> oona, you'll want to mount the appropriate point as a folder there. sys > admin > disks, or fstab
[05:55] <surgy> how is everyone?
[05:55] <THX-1138> oona - sure - you can right click on the desktop and create a launcher or manipulate Disks in the gui admin menu.
[05:56] <THX-1138> !mount
[05:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:56] <THX-1138> !ntfs
[05:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:56] <earthian> i have noticed that now i have ~10-50% CPU usage as i am installing Corel suite to my VMWare machine and when the usage gets to 50% it starts to be very laggy!!! I have dual CPU box and i know that SHOULD NOT be happening! wtf?
[05:56] <surgy> ubotu psp
[05:56] <ubotu> psp: Perl Server Pages - Web scripting environment runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-3 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:56] <DigitalNinja> How do I get flash and java installed (multimedia)? I tried EasyUbuntu but it's not working.
[05:56] <surgy> ubotu playstation  portable
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about playstation  portable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell DigitalNinja about flash
[05:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell DigitalNinja about java
[05:57] <surgy> i need software for my psp
[05:57] <THX-1138> earthian the "nice" command and a google for "linux swappiness" will get things at least to work. - not enough info yet for a cure.
[05:57] <DigitalNinja> ubotu: flash
[05:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:58] <THX-1138> earthian: What does top tell you about process usage?
[05:58] <XiXaQ> earthian, have you installed vmware tools?
[05:58] <earthian> now nmothing as everything got installed
[05:58] <keebler> What is the best 802.11g USB stick for ubuntu?
[05:58] <stu_> im install dapper was I wasnt asked to create a username just choose a password?? wtf is the username going to be???
[05:58] <earthian> yes my vmware is working ok
[05:58] <earthian> its smth with ubuntu
[05:58] <stu_> smth ??
[05:59] <THX-1138> stu - open a terminal and type whoami
[05:59] <earthian> feels like it is not using full power of my BOTH CPUs
[05:59] <stu_> terminal? its still installing
[05:59] <earthian> and yes, i have SMP :)
[05:59] <XiXaQ> earthian, oh, Corel suite is available for Ubuntu?
[05:59] <lopzided> stu_, then maybe you haven't got to the part of the install where you set up your username?
[05:59] <earthian> no it is not i am runing it in vmware
[05:59] <stu_> no hes installing it on a vm
[05:59] <earthian> and it works good for the time being :)
[05:59] <stu_> lopzided: it asked for a password for the new user
[05:59] <stu_> but not for the username
[05:59] <lopzided> stu_, that's probably the superuser password
[06:00] <stu_> I even cancelled and went back and slecetd confugre users and password and still no ask for a username
[06:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> can anyone help me with a no sound problem?  how do I go about running the hardware config?
[06:00] <XiXaQ> earthian, you're running windows in vmware and corel on top of that then?
[06:00] <THX-1138> earthian -Thats great! - stick around share what you now.
[06:00] <earthian> XiXaQ, yes
[06:00] <THX-1138> earthian - could you help me with my spelling?
[06:00] <earthian> no
[06:00] <earthian> :P
[06:01] <earthian> erm.. maybe now = know
[06:01] <earthian> :)
[06:01] <XiXaQ> earthian, everything else working fine?
[06:01] <THX-1138> ;)
[06:01] <choqbhun> hi is there somebody can guide me to install drapper drake on Virtual Server 2005?
[06:01] <Overand> mount the iso
[06:01] <earthian> well as i have dual opteron 250 setup vmware works just fine for windows based non DX or OGL programs
[06:01] <Overand> that's about it
[06:01] <chrisjw> hi, how would i change the character encoding to iso 8859 instead of utf8
[06:02] <XiXaQ> I'm running Ubuntu in VMWare under Windows XP. That way, I can use Remote Desktop Connection from any windows machine and use/demonstrate Ubuntu.. :)
[06:02] <choqbhun> I keep getting crooked screen.. I've already did all the advice on google I can find
[06:02] <THX-1138> Microsoft and linux? - anyone see trouble there? - dunno - is it possible
[06:02] <earthian> hehe
[06:02] <Overand> earthian: my boss just built a dual opteron 2.6 ghz system, 8 gigs of ram
[06:02] <earthian> i have vice-versa XiXaQ
[06:02] <choqbhun> XiXaQ: unfortunately I'm developing under W2k3 too so I have to use VS2005
[06:02] <XiXaQ> earthian, I got that. :)
[06:02] <Overand> 3.5 TB Raid 5
[06:02] <mister_roboto> choqbhun: vmware server is really nice too - and it's free. just in case you wanted to try it
[06:02] <Overand> =[ makes me jealous
[06:03] <XiXaQ> choqbhun, why is that bad?
[06:03] <THX-1138> choqbhun:  "crooked screen" - hm - is it otherwise okay? clear? just stretched beyond the edges?
[06:03] <XiXaQ> mister_roboto, what does that do?
[06:03] <choqbhun> yup scretched on the edges
[06:03] <choqbhun> I edited the xorg.conf but it's still the same goddamn screen
[06:03] <THX-1138> choqbhun: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't help?
[06:03] <mister_roboto> XiXaQ: didn't see your message before i sent mine.  same thing.  just a vm
[06:04] <Overand> vs2k5 is fine
[06:04] <THX-1138> choqbhun: I am not an expert i only like to "play" one online. sounds like a problem with the refresh rate.
[06:04] <Overand> proprietary, slightly buggy and flaky
[06:04] <choqbhun> ctrl-alt-f1 then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:04] <choqbhun> yup it's the problem with color depth from 24 and 16
[06:04] <Overand> but MS is decent at the whole IDE thing
[06:04] <mister_roboto> http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html
[06:04] <mheath> choqbhun, I'm not sure I quite understand what your problem is, but this isn't something you can fix through your monitor's settings, then?
[06:05] <XiXaQ> THX-1138, I've been wondering what the name of that movie was... :) Thanks.
[06:05] <mheath> "Stretched beyond the edges"
[06:05] <SAM_theman> Guys TC elite .49 CAME OUT!!!!
[06:05] <dzer0> I need some vsftpd help
[06:05] <choqbhun> mheath : no it's something that happens with ubuntu on vs2k5
[06:05] <SAM_theman> http://www.truecombat.us/
[06:05] <THX-1138> XiXaQ: "Buy. Buy more.  Buy more now!" - wide grin
[06:05] <SAM_theman> download it
[06:05] <choqbhun> THX : I'll try the sudo. thanks. I'll be back
[06:06] <dzer0> whenever I upload a file, I need to chmod it in order for php to be able to access it and I want to know if there is a setting for default access levels of uploaded files
[06:06] <mheath> dzer0, what application are you using to upload?
[06:06] <dzer0> smartftp on windows
[06:07] <XiXaQ> How do I make a package from a installer? Instead of ./install.sh, I want to create a .deb and then install that.
[06:07] <CTU24> Hi guys, Is there a way I can download this file to my pc rather than read it online? (it's the Ubunto 6.06 LTS server guide) https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[06:07] <THX-1138> dzero - did you enable a root account and not disable it?
[06:07] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[06:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:08] <dzer0> what do you mean
[06:08] <mheath> dzer0, What FTP server are you running?
[06:08] <dzer0> like enable a root accound where THX-1138
[06:08] <dzer0> mheath vsftpd
[06:08] <THX-1138> dxero - dunno - I don't see that problem very often.
[06:08] <robbbb> does anyone run enlightenment dr17?
[06:09] <mister_roboto> dzer0: the file is being written by ftpd?
[06:09] <chrisjw> hi, how would i change the character encoding to iso 8859 instead of utf8
[06:09] <dzer0> mister_roboto well, I'm just uploading it through ftp as a local user
[06:09] <CTU24> Herro??? Does anyone know how/where I can download a version of the Ubuntu 6.06 server guide, rather than have to read it online from an HTML page?
[06:09] <Overand> !locales
[06:09] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[06:09] <odyssevs> Will iwlist ONLY list APs?
[06:09] <mister_roboto> dzer0: what is the user/group and the permissions on the resulting uploaded file?
[06:10] <adsf_> HEY PPL
[06:10] <adsf_> I got xfce
[06:10] <THX-1138> dzero - i am gussing you are online as root right now. - not a good idea.
[06:10] <Overand> chrisjw: check ubotu 's link
[06:10] <chrisjw> sorry can you pate it qagain plz
[06:10] <adsf_> do I have to do somethin before rebooting?
[06:10] <Overand> !locales
[06:10] <mheath> adsf_, Congratulations.
[06:10] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[06:10] <chrisjw> ty
[06:10] <adsf_> do I?
[06:11] <adsf_> wat do I do now??
[06:11] <mheath> THX-1138, what in the world are you talking about? He comes in asking how to set default permissions for FTP upload, and you start ranting about how he's IRCing as root without any proof?
[06:12] <THX-1138> wheath - Everyone has opinion. - i am entitled to one. even a wrong one.
[06:13] <robbbb> anyone use enlightenment DR17?
[06:13] <odyssevs> Any of you live in London?
[06:14] <mheath> THX-1138, Yes, but the gentleman was obviously getting very confused because none of what you were saying to him made any sense at all.
[06:15] <robbbb> what can i use for a notification area?
[06:15] <keiron> hi. i just did something stupid when trying to add a group to my user. i did "usermod -G [group]  [my username] ". now i can't sudo and instead get "keiron is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." can anyone help please?
[06:16] <Daeger> hello
[06:16] <crimeboy> ls
[06:17] <XiXaQ> robbbb, you mean the standard notication area that comes with gnome?
[06:17] <Daeger> could someone help me
[06:17] <Daeger> I want xfce on ubuntu, how can I put it on?
[06:17] <robbbb> XiXaQ - no i'm not using gnome. i'm using the new enlightenment
[06:17] <lopzided> Daeger, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:17] <Daeger> I got it already but how to put it on?
[06:18] <lopzided> Daeger, log out, then choose xfce as your session at the login screen
[06:18] <Daeger> it isnt there
[06:18] <Daeger> xfce
[06:18] <lopzided> Daeger, are you sure it installed correctly?
[06:19] <Daeger> humm .. well I'lllb
[06:19] <Daeger> I'll try againb
[06:19] <Daeger> shit
[06:19] <Daeger> hard to type >_>
[06:19] <keiron> does anyone know if it's possible to readd yourself to the sudo group after you stupidly removed yourself from it?
[06:19] <keiron> (when there are no other users with sudo access on the machine and root doesn't have a password)
[06:19] <THX-1138> lopzided - can i use xompmgr with xfce4 for drop shadows and transparency?
[06:20] <lopzided> THX-1138, sorry, not sure what xompmgr is :P
[06:21] <THX-1138> ooh- there is that spellin bug again. recompiling the kernel didn't help one bit. "xcompmgr"
[06:21] <roughtrader> good morning. i'm running with athlon 64 X2 processor, which smp kernel is the appropriate one?
[06:21] <THX-1138> !amd64
[06:21] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[06:22] <robbbb> whats's a pager?
[06:22] <zeemon> hi is this some ubuntu noob allowed channel?
[06:22] <lopzided> robbbb, the thing you use to switch virtual desktops (1,2,3,4)
[06:22] <robbbb> i see
[06:22] <XiXaQ> zeemon, this is one.
[06:22] <zeemon> ok
[06:23] <XiXaQ> zeemon, does that mean you're a newbie? :)
[06:23] <Korableov> People, who of you use Firefox?
[06:23] <zeemon> yep lol
[06:23] <roughtrader> i'm running ubuntu 32-bit, and K8-smp is not supported. I'm thinking 686-smp is the closest available
[06:23] <XiXaQ> zeemon, welcome then. :)
[06:23] <eigenlambda> zeemon: this is the heping newbs channel, yes.  you will need to look for the development ones ^_^
[06:23] <binary_goofy> hi room! i'm tryin to get sound working while playing railroad tycoon 2. can somebody pls help!!!
[06:23] <lopzided> Korableov, i use firefox
[06:24] <zeemon> ^_^
[06:24] <keiron> can anyone help with my problem?
[06:24] <Daeger> it saysxubuntu-desktop was not found
[06:24] <eigenlambda> binary_goofy: is railroad tycoon 2 being run in ine?
[06:24] <Daeger> it says*
[06:24] <mc44> how can I find the UUID of a disk ie. /dev/sda1?
[06:24] <eigenlambda> binary_goofy: *wine
[06:24] <binary_goofy> eigen: nope. runnin d linux version.
[06:24] <zeemon> I have ubuntu working since yesterday, by  now I have just two problems: one is my printer
[06:24] <eigenlambda> binary_goofy: i bet its an oss app
[06:25] <eigenlambda> i bet you want to run it through esddsp
[06:25] <Abst> Where can I get csm?
[06:25] <zeemon> the other one is: when I load some site with a youtube video embedded, firefox get freezed,  check CPU usage and its 100% o.O
[06:25] <lopzided> Daeger, you need to add repos
[06:26] <zeemon> BUT in youtube page I load videos with no problem
[06:26] <eigenlambda> binary_goofy: try installing esound-clients
[06:26] <Korableov> Who uses non-standard themes in Firefox?
[06:26] <binary_goofy> eigen: on d contrary, all d support forums seemed to indicate setting gstreamer to ALSA, den it worked for dem.
[06:26] <bruenig> Korableov, what is non-standard, just anything except the default?
[06:26] <eigenlambda> ooooh
[06:26] <eigenlambda> ok
[06:26] <Abst> Where can I get csm?
[06:26] <eigenlambda> so... railroad tycoon 2 uses gstreamer...
[06:26] <binary_goofy> eigen: sound works absoutely fine on everything else. only doesn't work on railroad tycoon.
[06:27] <Korableov> Bruenig, yes.
[06:27] <eigenlambda> hm
[06:27] <Korableov> I just can't apply new themes!
[06:27] <bruenig> Korableov, I use minifox, like a big browsing area
[06:27] <binary_goofy> eigen: not sure if it uses gstreamer. forums suggested setting sound to ALSA from dat n den killin esd. which i did, but it doesn't work
[06:27] <zeemon> some suggestions about that youtube embedded problem? o.O ^_^
[06:28] <bruenig> Korableov, you have to go into the themes dialog (tools>themes) then click on the theme then click use theme
[06:28] <RankorFodder> zeemon you mean the no audio problem?
[06:29] <bruenig> dat, den?
[06:29] <zeemon> no, audio and video is OK at youtube site. The problem is when I try to see video from another site with a youtubevideo embedded
[06:29] <gianlux> ciao
[06:29] <eigenlambda> binary_goofy: railroad tycoon 2 uses oss
[06:29] <zeemon> Firefox sature CPU usage
[06:29] <eigenlambda> you need to run it through esddsp
[06:29] <bruenig> flash 9 beta should be coming out soon
[06:29] <RankorFodder> zeemon: i havent ran into that problem, although Mozilla gets crashy for sites that use youtube embeded for me
[06:29] <eigenlambda> or, you need to set up aoss mixing and crap
[06:29] <binary_goofy> eigen: ok. so how do i go abt doing dat?
[06:30] <eigenlambda> install esound-clients
[06:30] <skpl> hello, i have a question. how would i go about completely removing a ubuntu installation, including the grub boot loader, and returning to a strictly windows system?
[06:30] <bruenig> binary_goofy, if you wouldn't mind speaking english
[06:30] <lopzided> skpl, boot from the windows cd and format the drive?
[06:30] <lennox> hi
[06:30] <RankorFodder> skpl: are you dual-booting, or are you going to re-install XP?
[06:30] <zeemon> ok RankorFodder
[06:31] <bruenig> binary_goofy or go to #ubuntu-gayinternetabbreviations,
[06:31] <porkpie> hi guy,s I am just build a Dell power edge 1950 running hardware raid one.  THe server restart and I get grub starting please wait error 21.  I am using a Integrated SAS/SATA RAID 1, PERC 5/i Integrated
[06:31] <RankorFodder> sorry zeemon, wish i could help
[06:31] <Arrick> does anyone know if the ATI Radeon 7500 is supported in Ubuntu Breezy?
[06:31] <zeemon> no prob. maybe is a general truble
[06:31] <zeemon> ^_^
[06:31] <eigenlambda> bruenig: those aren't internet abbreviations...
[06:31] <bruenig> yeah, I couldn't think of what to call them
[06:31] <eigenlambda> yes.  binary_goofy, please spell things correctly
[06:31] <lennox> do you guys know how i can deinstall ubuntu linux?
[06:31] <RankorFodder> zeemon: i know there are known issues with that in Moz bugtracker
[06:31] <bruenig> they aren't lingo because he is the only one that uses them
[06:31] <eigenlambda> lennox: you mean, reinstall windows?
[06:31] <TheGateKeeper> skpl: use something like gparted to repartition & reformat, can't you get on with linux?
[06:31] <lennox> ja
[06:32] <RankorFodder> zee: maybe the next release will address the issue
[06:32] <eigenlambda> pull out your windows install cds
[06:32] <eigenlambda> and install it
[06:32] <zeemon> OK. My other question is: how  to unnistall a printer?
[06:32] <mike_stern>  how can i remove a tty login screen? i am trying to write a script to remove the console login when 5 passwords are provided incorrecrly
[06:32] <RankorFodder> wtf is a printer? ;p;
[06:32] <RankorFodder> lol
[06:32] <lopzided> lol
[06:32] <zeemon> I have an HP1020, I check and is not supported
[06:32] <lennox> i have tried a hundred times but it didnt work
[06:32] <zeemon> o.O
[06:32] <binary_goofy> eigen: sorry. didn't know u would get upset over it. just that its faster to type. anyways, i install esound-clients through synaptic?
[06:32] <eigenlambda> ask about how to install windows on #windows
[06:33] <bruenig> zeemon, you want to uninstall it? if it doesn't work how did you install it?
[06:33] <eigenlambda> binary_goofy: yes
[06:33] <zeemon> sorry about my poor english second language lol ^_^
[06:33] <TheGateKeeper> lennox: tried what?
[06:33] <eigenlambda> thats ok
[06:33] <RankorFodder> i dont own a printer, but i thought CUPS would let any printer work?
[06:33] <lopzided> lennox, do you have your BIOS set to boot from CD first?
[06:33] <eigenlambda> foreigners misspelling things is ok.  its just good that you're trying.
[06:33] <bruenig> I thought nearly all HP printers worked since hp writes drivers for them and is very linux friendly
[06:33] <Abst> Anyone know why after installing flashplugin-nonfree I still cant use flash?
[06:33] <lennox> before i installed ubuntu i could easly install anything
[06:34] <keiron> does anyone know if it's possible to re-add yourself to the sudo group after you stupidly removed yourself from it, when there are no other users in the sudo group and the root password is not set?
[06:34] <lopzided> lennox, what did you have installed before ubuntu?
[06:34] <mike_stern> how can i restrict the number of GETTY ?
[06:34] <THX-1138> RankorFodder: Yes, - It works very well - you need the name windows cals your printer and the correct path
[06:34] <THX-1138> !cups
[06:34] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:34] <bruenig> lennox, to deinstall an operating system, just reformat the partition or drive it is on
[06:34] <TheGateKeeper> lennox: use something like gparted to repartition & reformat
[06:34] <lennox> it was on a cd
[06:34] <lopzided> o rly?
[06:35] <RankorFodder> lennox: if you are dual-booting xp and ubuntu,  you have to replace GRuB with NTLDR and then simply format your linux partition and resize the ntfs one to full-size
[06:35] <zeemon> I look at forums for answers and that model is not supported. There is some kind of patch wich I downloaded, but when I ttry to install it recognices the old printer..
[06:36] <Shan> hi, i'm interested in putting up a ubuntu mirror server in my country... whom do i contact / where can i get more info?
[06:36] <RankorFodder> zeemon: have you tried getting drunk? i find that helps.
[06:36] <RankorFodder> ;-D
[06:36] <Szef666> I'll ask again, please paste here permissions and owner:group of /media/* and /dev/hd*  so automount will work again in ubuntu
[06:36] <lennox> i am sorry i have understood nothing .i am new to this
[06:36] <THX-1138> RankorFodder - did you need to rip the first 512 bytes of the didk with the dd command to and copy it to windows for ntloader to see?
[06:36] <POVaddct> RankorFodder: don't drink and root :)
[06:36] <eigenlambda> never pedit after midnight
[06:37] <roughtrader> for 32-bit ubuntu, looks like either 686-smp or k7-smp will do fine
[06:37] <THX-1138> RankorFodder - hm - did i type that?
[06:37] <RankorFodder> thx: for me, at least, ntldr loads the first 512 itself
[06:37] <ompaul> jb[
[06:37] <roughtrader> for athlon X2
[06:37] <ompaul> !language
[06:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:38] <THX-1138> Good Morning ompaul
[06:38] <eracc> lennox, how much experience do you have installing/uninstalling operating systems?
[06:38] <zeemon> rankorfodder lol yeah i did installation this weekend, so i was under beer effects  ^_^  lol
[06:38] <RankorFodder> lol
[06:38] <lennox> not much
[06:39] <ompaul> THX-1138, hello, from the tz with 17:39
[06:39] <binary_goofy> eigen: installed the package. still doesn't work...
[06:39] <zeemon> "dont drink and root" good tip.
[06:39] <sureshot> !ati
[06:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:39] <main2> how do i stop the VNC server on my kubuntu boxie?
[06:39] <RankorFodder> main2: hit it with a hammer?
[06:39] <hagbard_> is there any bugtracker for edgy eft knot3?
[06:40] <THX-1138> ompaul - greetings from San Diego California. - The weather is nice but the traffic is horrible so we are staying on the computer today.
[06:40] <main2> RankorFodder: got anything usefull to say for the rest?
[06:40] <cherubiel> main2: man vncserver should give you all options, including switches
[06:40] <eracc> lennox, so you installed Ubuntu and now want to delete it? When you installed Ubuntu did you choose a dual-boot setup? (Keep Windoze and add Ubuntu)?
[06:40] <RankorFodder> main2: no, sadly i dont have any experience with VNC servers
[06:40] <ompaul> THX-1138, :-)
[06:40] <lennox> ja
[06:40] <eracc> VNC is great.
[06:40] <lennox> nein
[06:41] <ompaul> !de
[06:41] <eracc> Also, VNC is easy. :-)
[06:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:41] <Arrick2> eracc, do I come in here and type out uflunctu at any point in time?
[06:41] <lennox> you mean live cd?
[06:41] <THX-1138> !de
[06:41] <RankorFodder> ok im afk again.
[06:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:41] <Arrick2> I would appreceate it if you could speak about windows decently, just because you sont like it, doesnt mean it doesnt have its uses
[06:41] <cherubiel> lennox: easiest way to clean, do a fixmbr in windows to restore the bootloader, then manually delete the required partitions
[06:42] <binary_goofy> eigen: installed the package. sound still doesn't work...
[06:42] <THX-1138> binary_goofy: Did you see this link?
[06:42] <THX-1138> !sound
[06:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:42] <lennox> cherubiel you can explain that to me later
[06:42] <mike_stern> i am currently on TTY1 , echo "hello" >> /etc/tty2 is giving me ACCESS DENIEd
[06:42] <mike_stern> WH:?HY?
[06:42] <mike_stern> why?
[06:43] <theCore> Does Evolution support treading?
[06:43] <mike_stern> i wanna output on tty2 screen
[06:43] <binary_goofy> THX: which link?
[06:43] <higen> hmm.. my loopback device dosent get shutdown properly,  the init.d/networking excludes lo from shutdown (ifdown -a --exclude=lo), and there is no link in rc0.d or rc6.d to the loopback script.. which again mean the /var/run/network/ifstate never get cleared, which again means loopback will not come up properly on boot, because ifstate (with lo=lo) is true.. is this a common problem??
[06:44] <russki-1> hello
[06:44] <russki-1> people
[06:44] <FurryNemesis> anyone know the default location for my gaim buddy list?
[06:44] <THX-1138> higen - no, it isn't seen here often.
[06:44] <ompaul> !enter
[06:44] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:44] <RankorFodder> furry: i think gaim grabs your AIM list from the aol server
[06:44] <brian98> FurryNemesis, locate accounts.xml
[06:44] <FurryNemesis> ty
[06:44] <jrib> FurryNemesis: probably in ~/.gaim somewhere
[06:44] <russki-1> I have this two old pcs I cant install ubuntu on
[06:44] <gorn> hello, if got a problem by installing a new kerne:
[06:44] <eracc> lennox, http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314058
[06:44] <higen> THX-1138: darn.. i dont have a clue how that happend on my system??.. can you check if there is any link in loopback in your rc6.d directory?
[06:45] <russki-1> It tells me errorcode -11
[06:45] <FurryNemesis> ah, got it
[06:45] <FurryNemesis> thanks all
[06:45] <THX-1138> higen - sure. give me a sec.
[06:45] <russki-1> what is errorcode -11?
[06:45] <gorn> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.15-26-386_2.6.15-26.47_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:45] <gorn>  fehlgeschlagen in buffer_write(fd) (9, ret=-1): Backend dpkg-deb whrend ./lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/core/snd-pcm.ko: No space left on device
[06:45] <mike_stern> i am currently on TTY1 , echo "hello" >> /etc/tty2 is giving me ACCESS DENIEd
[06:45] <suprchris> Anyone working on Xgl?
[06:45] <lennox> thanks
[06:45] <lennox> i try that
[06:45] <russki-1> bloody hell too many people on this channel
[06:46] <binary_goofy> THX: did it, still doesn't work. sound is working on all other apps, except for railroad tycoon 2.
[06:46] <Arrick2> If I have shorewall installed, where do I access the program from to config it?
[06:46] <eracc> lennox, that talks about recovery of your Win$ystem. Specifically you want "	Repair the file system boot sector or the Master Boot Record (MBR).".
[06:46] <higen> mike_stern: /etc/tty2 ?? isnt that located in dev?
[06:46] <mike_stern> it is
[06:46] <lunaphyte> does ubuntu have something similar to debian's testing, so one could follow the continual update of packages, rather than a formal release?
[06:46] <mike_stern> higen
[06:46] <ompaul> russki-1, that is not a support comment take it easy you say errorcode -11 but you give no context, booting during some program operation or something else
[06:46] <mike_stern> it used to work fine!
[06:46] <CokeNCode> hey, what's this gnash i keep hearing about
[06:47] <higen> mike_stern: well.. do a ls -Al /dev/tty2 then..
[06:47] <mike_stern> on other distros
[06:47] <Paddy_EIRE> lunaphyte: yes, I think you must enable/add the appropriate repos though
[06:47] <CokeNCode> my flash is fubar'd
[06:47] <FurryNemesis> erk
[06:47] <CokeNCode> and it's giving me hell on websites ... can anyone give me some more info ?
[06:47] <THX-1138> higen - k90Sysloggd - S01linux-restrictedmodules-common. - nothing
[06:47] <mike_stern> crw-------  1 root root 4, 2 2006-09-30 18:42 /dev/tty2
[06:47] <cherubiel> FurryNemesis: are you thinking the buddy list would be stored on the local disk??
[06:47] <mike_stern> this is ls -al /etc/tty2
[06:47] <mike_stern> dev
[06:47] <higen> mike_stern: unless you are root, you cant echo anything to that console
[06:48] <mike_stern> sudo?
[06:48] <POVaddct> mike_stern: perfectly normal. a terminal which you are not logged on does not belong to you.
[06:48] <mike_stern> even sudo?
[06:48] <binary_goofy> room, can somebody pls help me get sound working on railroad tycoon 2. works fine on everything else.
[06:48] <zeemon> o.o  --->> ROR] : PyQt not installed. GUI not available. Exiting.
[06:48] <higen> either that, or you should change the group ownership, and add your user to that group, then add rw to the tty2
[06:48] <russki-1> ompaul: thanku for you attention, ubuntu loads fine as a livecd , I see gnome - everything ok, when I click on the install icon, the installation crashes after a while with error code -11
[06:48] <lennox> thank you guys
[06:49] <POVaddct> mike_stern: sudo does not affect the shell redirection, because it is still the same shell
[06:49] <THX-1138> binary_goofy - with WINE sometimes selecting OSS is the right option.
[06:49] <higen> THX-1138: hmm.. and your loopback works fine? it shows up when you do ifconfig?
[06:49] <ompaul> russki-1, what version are you trying to install?
[06:49] <Gasten> Uhm.... How do you run a .linux-x86-file?
[06:49] <mister_roboto> lunaphyte: usually, at some point you just switch your sources.list to the next version and do an update && dist-upgrade to keep following the latest
[06:49] <russki-1> dapper
[06:49] <binary_goofy> THX: not using wine. running the linux version of the game
[06:49] <ricky> hey everyone
[06:49] <mike_stern> btw
[06:49] <zeemon> em@digitalia:~$ hp-toolbox
[06:49] <zeemon>  [ERROR] : PyQt not installed. GUI not available. Exiting.
[06:49] <THX-1138> higen - yes, seems fine.
[06:49] <mike_stern> how can i enable root under ubuntu
[06:49] <russki-1> ompaul:dapper
[06:49] <zeemon> su passwd root
[06:50] <mister_roboto> lunaphyte: i'm running edgy right now... just did a s/dapper/edgy on my sources.list
[06:50] <ompaul> russki-1, have a look at this page it solves that problem on a regular basis: help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[06:50] <Gasten> zeemon: try "sudo aptitude install pyqt"
[06:50] <ricky> how can i make a email @ubuntu.org?
[06:50] <zeemon> ok gasten tnx
[06:50] <ompaul> mike_stern, it is suggested you dontdo that
[06:50] <eracc> zeemon, I was told not to tell that here (enabling root).
[06:50] <THX-1138> !rootsudo > mike_stern
[06:50] <POVaddct> zeemon: not su but sudo
[06:50] <higen> THX-1138: hmm.. then there must be something wrong with the clearout of my network dir under /var/run  can you do a ls -Al /var/run  and check if there is an special flags on the networking folder?
[06:50] <zeemon> okok
[06:50] <ompaul> zeemon, we say this !rootsudo > username
[06:50] <Paddy_EIRE> mike_stern: read this first https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:50] <mike_stern> i cant SU root!
[06:50] <mike_stern> how can i enable that pleasE?
[06:50] <russki-1> ompaul: ok thanx
[06:50] <lennox> i wish i would understand something
[06:50] <higen> the correct name on the folder are /var/run/network
[06:51] <ompaul> mike_stern, you don't need to
[06:51] <mike_stern> just curiosity
[06:51] <lunaphyte> mister_roboto: is there a way to do that without having to modify your sources.list file every time a new release is made?
[06:51] <eracc> mike_stern, if you really believe you need it then the information can be found on the WWW.
[06:51] <higen> THX-1138: or maybe the ifstate file have temp flag?
[06:51] <Gasten> !rootsudo > Gasten
[06:51] <ricky> how can i make a email @ubuntu.org can someone hepl me?
[06:51] <ompaul> mike_stern read that web page that the bot sent to you - it will tell you how to enable it and disable it but why you sould not use it
[06:51] <Niklas_E> if you installed the ati*.run in ubuntu and can't make the x work again (I have installed the fglrx before) Anyone know how to remove it?
[06:51] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[06:51] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[06:51] <mike_stern> just wanna be able to echo on terminal!
[06:52] <mister_roboto> lunaphyte: not that i know of. i've been doing that for the past 3 releases.  keeps you on the bleeding edge but i don't know if there's just one name like "testing" that you can use. i don't think so
[06:52] <mike_stern> coz i need to send messages btw terminals
[06:52] <Gasten> !rootsudo > Gasten
[06:52] <Gasten> Uhm.... How do you run a .linux-x86-file?
[06:52] <ricky> can someone tell me how can i make a email
[06:52] <THX-1138> higen - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25413/
[06:53] <ricky> can someone tell me how caon i make a email @ubuntu.org
[06:53] <ompaul> ricky, you can't have an ubuntu.org address or .com for that matter :-)
[06:53] <THX-1138> higen - lol - okay?
[06:53] <higen> THX-1138: hmm.. what about inside network directory?
[06:53] <ricky> but i have @debian.org
[06:53] <POVaddct> mike_stern: why do you want to do that?
[06:53] <ompaul> ricky, you have to be a ubuntu member to get a ubuntu.com one
[06:53] <mike_stern> well i am working on a project
[06:53] <THX-1138> higen - lol - okay. - give me a second - doh
[06:54] <ricky> how can i be a ubuntu member
[06:54] <eracc> Gasten, what is the application you are attempting to install with the .linux-x86-file?
[06:54] <mike_stern> if 5 login attermpts fail i wanna write to the terminal access deinied
[06:54] <higen> mike_stern: you know how to change user on files?
[06:54] <vicscandl> !datacable > vicscandl
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about datacable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <mike_stern> yea sure
[06:54] <vicscandl> !data cable > vicscandl
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about data cable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <ompaul> ricky,  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[06:54] <ricky> ompaul how can i be ubuntu member?
[06:54] <vicscandl> !cell phone > vicscandl
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cell phone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <Gasten> eracc: it's a game.
[06:55] <higen> mike_stern: ok.. change the tty's to another user.. then add the user you want to access the ttys to the group..  then add +rw to the tty's in /dev
[06:55] <POVaddct> mike_stern: and what should that be good for? it does not improve security
[06:55] <mike_stern> POVaddct: just warning to the user, this is my project :P
[06:55] <binary_goofy> hi room! am tryin to get sound working on railroad tycoon 2. can somebody pls help?
[06:55] <mister_roboto> higen: you mean g+rw, right?
[06:55] <eracc> Gasten, I repeat: what is the application you are attempting to install with the .linux-x86-file? Don't just tell me it is a game. It is possibly available from a Ubuntu repository.
[06:55] <higen> you cant write anything to the terminal atm, because its owned by root alone... maybe for secure reasons.. i suggest that you have kind of a scriptuser to run the message for oyu.. and only that one can access the tty.. to avoid security problems
[06:56] <higen> mister_roboto: yes that will do it
[06:56] <higen> or chmod 750
[06:56] <vicscandl> anyone know of utilities to deal with a cell phone and it's data cable?
[06:56] <Gasten> eracc: Ah.. yees.... I go check there firdt. thanks.
[06:56] <higen> and chown root:masterGroupOftheUniverse /dev/tty2
[06:57] <mike_stern> hmm
[06:57] <THX-1138> higen - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25415/ - so much for trust issues
[06:57] <okiaro> Hi guys, I'm having this weird problem where I can't mount my dvdrom drive anymore (dmesg says: "attempt to access beyond end of device"). The strange thing is that my windows XP virtual machine running in vmware has no problem reading the dvd...
[06:57] <mike_stern> root:group?
[06:57] <higen> mike_stern: yea.. for changing the ownership..
[06:58] <mike_stern> similar to chgrp
[06:58] <Doc_> Are there any other good messenger programs other than Gaim
[06:58] <higen> THX-1138: okay.. now i feel like a pain in the ass.. but i meant the /var/run/network folder :P
[06:58] <higen> mike_stern: yepp
[06:58] <ompaul> mike_stern, sudo -i gets you uid 0 and then you can echo to the console of your choice
[06:59] <DigitalNinja> how do I test the java plugin
[06:59] <Szef666> THX-1138: you're pasting listing of /etc, could you paste ls -la /media and ls -la /dev/hd* for me?
[06:59] <eracc> Doc_, I use kopete (even though I don't use KDE).
[06:59] <Doc_> ok thanks
[06:59] <mister_roboto> DigitalNinja: by running an applet from your browser?
[06:59] <higen> ompaul: which is also a good solution :P  aslong as you dont have to type password
[06:59] <J-_> amsn is good too.
[06:59] <binary_goofy> hi room! am tryin to get sound working on railroad tycoon 2. can somebody pls help?
[06:59] <THX-1138> Szef66 - time for coffee - see you in a bit.
[06:59] <ompaul> mike_stern, assuming you have permission to
[06:59] <mike_stern> i can supply clear text password using sudo?
[06:59] <mike_stern> something like sudo -p password?
[07:00] <higen> mike_stern: sounds like a heavy security issue :P
[07:00] <binary_goofy> hi room! am tryin to get sound working on railroad tycoon 2. can somebody pls help?
[07:00] <sethk> mike_stern, no
[07:00] <mike_stern> i dont care since only room will have access to it
[07:00] <sethk> mike_stern, -p is prompt, not password
[07:00] <mike_stern> hmmmmm how to run scripts then?
[07:00] <mike_stern> under root
[07:00] <sethk> mike_stern, you can use visudo to specify that a password isn't necessary at all
[07:00] <ompaul> mike_stern, cron
[07:00] <lufis> Anyone else notice that Ubuntu package downloads are maxing out at around 35 kb/s?
[07:01] <thesaltydog> any skype guru?
[07:01] <infinito> which MTA is included by default in dapper??
[07:01] <zeemon> o.O --->> http://localhost:631/printers/LaserJet-1020  that has a print test option, sends the job, but no prints
[07:01] <mike_stern> cron?
[07:01] <ompaul> mike_stern, or as sudo -i and sit there and exit
[07:01] <DigitalNinja> What's a good website with java on it?
[07:01] <Rannon> Hi everyone! This is my first time here.
[07:01] <sethk> mike_stern, cron runs a program periodically, has nothing to do with what you asked
[07:01] <Niklas_E> is there any textbased install/remove program in ubuntu (not dselect)?
[07:01] <ompaul> DigitalNinja, you can test by going to java.sun.com
[07:01] <ryan_> is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu that kubuntu is kde and ubuntu is gnome? or am i wrong?
[07:01] <ompaul> Niklas_E, apt-get
[07:01] <mike_stern> i wanna run a script under root and i dont need to interact with it to supply the password
[07:01] <DigitalNinja> ompaul: Thanks
[07:01] <ompaul> ryan_, you are root
[07:02] <ompaul> ryan_, you are right (woops)
[07:02] <sethk> ryan_, there is really no difference. you can install kde or gnome with either one
[07:02] <sethk> ryan_, the only difference is what is installed by default for one particular install option choice
[07:02] <ryan_> but the defalt installs
[07:02] <jikuty> ryan_, same thing with Xubuntu, it just uses Xfce
[07:02] <Rannon> I was referred here by the Ubuntu website. I'm trying to run ubuntu in command line mode via Virtual PC. I got it all installed and running, but the command line resolution is strange. Is there any way to modify it?
[07:02] <ompaul> mike_stern, you are asking about something called setuid root as far as I can see - you will need to google that with the word security
[07:02] <zeemon> its Xubuntu more ligth about resources needed?
[07:02] <sethk> ryan_, not all install options include a desktop at all.
[07:02] <ryan_> thats what i thought
[07:03] <jikuty> zeemon: yeah, since Xfce is lighter.
[07:03] <Niklas_E> well a textgui for removeing programs I mean
[07:03] <zeemon> ok ok
[07:03] <sethk> ryan_, I don't bother with the kubuntu disk.  If I want kde, I install with no desktop at all, then install kde
[07:03] <Niklas_E> err packages
[07:03] <jikuty> zeemon: I have Xubuntu installed on an old AMD desktop beside me, performance is decent.
[07:03] <earthian> hello
[07:03] <lufis> Niklas_E: Try Aptitude?
[07:03] <earthian> i have read swappines articles on the net.
[07:03] <Niklas_E> tnx
[07:03] <ryan_> sethk: why
[07:03] <eracc> zeemon, yes, I prefer light window managers. I actually installed fluxbox and use that.
[07:03] <sethk> ryan_, why what?
[07:04] <Niklas_E> yes aptitude ;)
[07:04] <zeemon> I intalled ubuntu, do I need to unistall it so I can try Xubuntu?
[07:04] <sethk> zeemon, no
[07:04] <earthian> got a question: i have 1gig ram and 2gig swap. now 440mb of ram is used and 1.2gigs of swap is used.
[07:04] <ryan_> I don't bother with the kubuntu disk.  If I want kde, I install with no desktop at all, then install kde
[07:04] <Arrick2> how do I set a password for root in breezy?
[07:04] <earthian> if i set swappiness to 0 would it cause OOM ?
[07:04] <Arrick2> sethk, ?
[07:04] <sethk> ryan_, I don't see any need to download and keep up to date another set of cds
[07:04] <DigitalNinja> I installed the Flash pluggin with Synaptic but Firefox doesn't show the flash animation. Do I need to restart?
[07:04] <zeemon> ok
[07:04] <sethk> Arrick2, what?
[07:05] <ryan_> o ok..i have the cds
[07:05] <ompaul> !rootsudo > Arrick2
[07:05] <lufis> DigitalNinja: Download and install the plugin from the Flash website instead
[07:05] <earthian> DigitalNinja, i would recommend installing flash plugin from flash site
[07:05] <Arrick2> thanks
[07:05] <ompaul> Arrick2, check the message from the bot - it tells all
[07:05] <higen> ompaul: as fare as i know, he is trying to get feedback respose based upon what happends during execution of /bin/login
[07:05] <earthian> ups lufis :)
[07:05] <sethk> ryan_, there's nothing wrong with using the kubuntu disk, if that's what you are asking
[07:05] <lufis> earthian: Jinx :D
[07:05] <DigitalNinja> earthian: Ho do I install it system wide
[07:05] <zeemon> I cant install Java from Firefox, any ideas?
[07:05] <ompaul> higen, who is?
[07:05] <ryan_> ok ... thanks
[07:05] <Rannon> Does anyone know how to change the command line resolution? I can enter a few commands, but then they eventually scroll off the screen.
[07:05] <sethk> ryan_, no particular reason not to use it.  I always use install options where I select what to install.  so it makes no difference to me which disk I use.
[07:05] <higen> ompaul: that stern guy :)
[07:05] <Arrick2> I know ompaul been ere before, just couldnt remember, but I dont want to do sudo for this I woudl like to login as root
[07:06] <Gosty> hi where is floopy? /media/floopy0 or /media/floopy? because i couldn't find there
[07:06] <sethk> Arrick2, ubuntu has root, exactly like all other linux distros.  you can set the root password.
[07:06] <lucky_> hello
[07:06] <eracc> !rootsudo > Arrick2
[07:07] <lucky_> talk to me
[07:07] <porkpie> guy's what is the equivelent under ubuntu Edit "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules" and add "megaraid_sas" to the end of
[07:07] <porkpie> file.
[07:07] <slight> is ugly font rendering a known issue in edgy beta?
[07:07] <ompaul> Arrick2, that is just bad and it annoys me when people do it, and pllease don't suggest it here to someone who asks give them the !rootsudo thing thanks
[07:07] <slight> can't find anything in launchpad
[07:07] <Gosty> hi where is floopy?  because i couldn't find it as /media/floopy0 or /media/floopy
[07:07] <Jimmey> How can I get the files from a .iso file, without writing it to a CD?
[07:07] <Arrick2> ompaul, I understand
[07:07] <sethk> porkpie, that's a kernel configuration thing, doesn't depend on which distro you are using
[07:07] <ompaul> eracc, hide I am getting angry :-)
[07:08] <sc0tty> echo megaradi_sas >> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[07:08] <sc0tty> iirc
[07:08] <eracc> ompaul, hee hee.
[07:08] <Polygon89> Hello, im using a thing called IFS Drives in windows, which allows windows to read and write to ext3 partitions, but recently when i boot up ubuntu it checks one of the ext3 partitons that windows writes to and says that it contains errors, and something about the LARGE_FILE flag not on the super block and it contains large files. Question is, how do i fix it and is it still safe to use ifs drives between windows and ubuntu?
[07:08] <higen> so.. can anyone do a ls -Al in their /var/run/network folder for me?? i need to se if the file there got any special flaggs!
[07:08] <POVaddct> Jimmey: mount -o loop,ro file.iso /mnt
[07:08] <Rannon> Maybe ubuntu is the wrong distribution.
[07:08] <POVaddct> Jimmey: then the files are visible in /mnt
[07:08] <EvanIsaac> how do i get to ndisgtk?
[07:08] <Jimmey> POVaddct, thanks.
[07:08] <Gasten> Gosty: you should check in "computer"
[07:08] <porkpie> sethk:I am running 6.01 tls amd64
[07:08] <lufis> Gosty: Your floppy drive should be auto-mounted in Nautilus
[07:08] <Arrick2> ompaul, how do I temorarily drop to root, without setting a password?
[07:08] <Jimmey> Then I can "umount" it, later?
[07:08] <ompaul> Arrick2, sudo -i
[07:08] <Jimmey> Arrick2, sudo -i
[07:08] <Jimmey> :'-(
[07:08] <Arrick2> thanks
[07:09] <Gosty> lufis: i found it it's /dev/fd0
[07:09] <ompaul> Arrick2, as I said it is all on that page, please read it you will find it very infomativew
[07:09] <sethk> porkpie, yes .. ?  you believe that makes it different, for some reason?
[07:09] <Arrick2> ok
[07:09] <Rannon> Do any of the other Ubuntu distributions run in pure command line mode?
[07:09] <lufis> porkpie: mingus??
[07:09] <okiaro> Hi guys, I'm having this weird problem where I can't mount my dvdrom drive anymore (dmesg says: "attempt to access beyond end of device"). The strange thing is that my windows XP virtual machine running in vmware has no problem reading the dvd...
[07:09] <ompaul> Rannon, there is a server install
[07:09] <EvanIsaac> how do i find ndisgtk?
[07:09] <Jimmey> Rannon, CTRL + ALT + F1
[07:09] <mumbles> dose anyone know what the changer is?
[07:09] <Szef666> Polygon89: check fsck.ext3
[07:10] <sethk> ompaul, the original unix security model is much better and more secure.  It's incredible that some people think they know more about it than the experts.
[07:10] <porkpie> sethk:I am having issues building a Dell power edge 1950
[07:10] <jdroid-> how do you guys feel about the firefox renaming thing?
[07:10] <slight> Polygon89, i think there's info about your issues in the faq for the pluggable ifs
[07:10] <Rannon> The problem with CTRL + ALT + F1 is that the resolution is very bad, I cannot see more than the results of one command.
[07:10] <Polygon89> ill check that slight, and sze is that a file?
[07:10] <ompaul> sethk, who what where then and 1981 was a great year sudo invented
[07:10] <slight> Polygon89, i believe it's safe, the driver refuses to mount the drive if it's not happy with it's state
[07:10] <EvanIsaac>  how do i find, and open ndisgtk?
[07:10] <slight> Polygon89, no on the website you got it from
[07:10] <Polygon89> yeah i know that but the check.ext3 or whatever someone suggested
[07:11] <sethk> ompaul, the folks who invented sudo never intended it to be used as a lot of ubuntu users seem to think.
[07:11] <porkpie> sethk:what file would I edit to add "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules" and add "megaraid_sas" to the end of
[07:11] <porkpie> file.
[07:11] <slight> Polygon89, is it from fs-driver.org?
[07:11] <Rannon> Everything after the first command scrolls off the screen. I have to execute clear to do another command.
[07:11] <netG> hi
[07:11] <netG>  Is it possible to get Banshee scan collection folder recursively?
[07:11] <Szef666> Polygon89: I'm wondering right now about the same, which is better to share files between windows and linux... ext3 partition and IFS drivers or ntfs partition and ntfs-ng3 [or something ntfs rw] 
[07:11] <sethk> porkpie, I don't understand.  you give me the name of a file, which is correct, and then ask me for the name of the same file.
[07:11] <slight> i've found ifs to be fine personally
[07:11] <Polygon89> yeah i got it from that site
[07:11] <lufis> Rannon: You're running in just command line, right?
[07:11] <Rannon> Yes, just the command line
[07:11] <mumbles> im gettign  "-i think" the greter application apperas to be crashing  errer
[07:11] <Polygon89> it works fine in windows im just afraid ubuntu is gonna screw it up cause of these wierd errors
[07:11] <EvanIsaac> anybody know how to get to the graphical interface for ndiswrapper, ndisgtk?
[07:11] <mumbles> anyone know what that means ?
[07:11] <Rannon> No x-windows
[07:11] <slight> i had to fsck my ext2/3 once before the ifs driver would happily mount it, so i think it behaves pretty safely
[07:12] <lopzided> what do i change to make it so when i right-click a link in xchat and choose "open in browser", it uses firefox instead of konqueror?
[07:12] <porkpie> sethk:I can't find the file .....I have alt f2 out of the install in to a console session
[07:12] <eracc> Szef666, a USB thumb-drive formatted to FAT32 is good for sharing with That Other OS
[07:12] <sethk> mumbles, you mean the greeter application?
[07:12] <slight> is ugly font rendering a known issue in edgy beta?
[07:12] <ompaul> sethk, and Matt Zimmerman never intended it to be used as some suggested :)
[07:12] <lufis> Rannon: Hmm... can you adjust the monitor, maybe? Would moving the screen a little to the left help?
[07:12] <Polygon89> well they worked fine in both operating systems it just recently it started generating errors on check filesystem during ubuntu bootup
[07:12] <sethk> porkpie, it doesn't exist yet.  that doesn't mean it's the wrong file name.
[07:12] <EvanIsaac> does anybody know how i get to ndisgtk?
[07:12] <Jimmey> POVaddct, I've got three isos, and only one CD - Is there some way I can "fake" the mounting of the CDs with these files in?
[07:12] <sethk> porkpie, it's much better to just compile that into the kernel, rather than trying to load it from an initrd
[07:13] <Rannon> The problem is not the monitor. I think it is a configuration of the command line. I looked at the settings in env and they don't seem to be the problem.
[07:13] <Szef666> eracc: i want to share more than usb can contain and preferably with file permissions... IFS driver respect file permissions like NTFS or EXT3?
[07:13] <sethk> ompaul, that's quite true.
[07:13] <jad> Hi, Why it's such hard task to setup Internet on Dapper?
[07:13] <porkpie> sethk:OK .   cool is there a doc on this please
[07:13] <sethk> jad, it isn't the least bit hard.  I can do it in about 30 seconds.
[07:13] <Ranbee> can i install beryl on a vmware image? i was wondering if the nvidia card will work correctly
[07:13] <EvanIsaac> sethk: do you know how i can get to ndisgtk?
[07:13] <kingace> hi
[07:13] <sethk> porkpie, the kernel source tree has docs on using initramfs
[07:13] <Polygon89> so if i fsck my drive, will i lose any data?
[07:13] <POVaddct> Jimmey: mix all files from all isos?
[07:13] <kingace> whenever i try to install XGL\compiz it tells me that compiz has dependencies and cant install
[07:13] <sethk> EvanIsaac, no, sorry, haven't used it.
[07:13] <lopzided> jad, mine worked off the rip...i just plugged everything in and presto
[07:13] <Rannon> How does the command line know how to be configured?
[07:13] <porkpie> sethk:I am used to FreeBSD  ...compling Kernels
[07:14] <sethk> porkpie, indeed, then you'll have no problems compiling the linux kernel.
[07:14] <EvanIsaac> i'm trying to get to the samething the guy did to solve his problem in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258732&highlight=Netgear+WG111T
[07:14] <jad> lopzided: are you using the always on connection through your ADSL modem ?, I'm having trouble with the pppoe
[07:14] <kingace> can someone point me towards an up to date xgl\compiz installation tutorial
[07:14] <lufis> Rannon: I'm a newb myself but I think resolution options for the command line mode are in Grub's menu.lst file. I could be wrong though
[07:14] <sc0tty> jad: it depends on  your network configuration I guess
[07:14] <Szef666> Polygon89: fsck-ing should fix errors, in worst case few files will disappear and appear in /lost+found as inodes numbered files
[07:14] <eracc> Szef666, hmmm. I believe the file permissions may not be equivalent across those file systems. Caveat: I do not use Micro$oft operating systems here ... so can't test.
[07:14] <fm> hello ! is anybody knows how to install a spyc@m 100 (Trust) ?
[07:14] <sc0tty> I have a dhcp on my lan, so it works fine out of the box
[07:14] <Jimmey> POVaddct, no, I mean, I've only got one CD, and I've got a script that requires me to insert one after another - Which means I have to insert one, wait for the script to prompt for the other, wipe the CD, and write another ISO to it
[07:15] <higen> when i reboot, my ifstate doesnt clear the line called lo=lo, which means by next reboot the loopback doesnt come up properly.. anyone have idea why?
[07:15] <Polygon89> will they be corrupted or they will be just renamed
[07:15] <sc0tty> if you don't have a router on the lan, or even no lan, it can be more troublesome
[07:15] <Arrick2> ompaul, if a folder is unreadable, such as the shorewall firewall, and it is owned by root, and unaccessable for some reason, how would I access it?
[07:15] <Polygon89> if they end up in lost+found
[07:15] <Arrick2> sudo doesnt ope it
[07:15] <Arrick2> open
[07:15] <porkpie> sethk:hmm! OK ...but normally I have installed freebsd the created a new kernel and then I build the kernel
[07:15] <zeemon> c u later tnx   ^^
[07:15] <jad> Ok, I can't use the modem always on ADSL connection, and I dont have LAN, is there anyway  to connect my ADSL with pppoe on ubuntu ? without entering the routing hell ?
[07:15] <Jimmey> POVaddct, like mounting the isos to /mnt/cdrom
[07:16] <lopzided> jad, uh...i dunno, i seriously just plugged everything in and turned it on.
[07:16] <Rannon> Oh thank you lufis! I found the menu.lst file. Do you know where I should make the change? I cannot view the file very easily.
[07:16] <POVaddct> Jimmey: i don't know what you mean. why write to cd?
[07:16] <porkpie> sethk:is unbuntu the same ..
[07:16] <sethk> porkpie, install the kernel source, copy in the configuration (which is in /boot), do make oldconfig, then build the kernel.
[07:16] <Szef666> eracc: :) now , maybe the best way to share data is to store them on an encrypted truecrypt partition accessible both from win and lin... but overhead just to listen mp3... :d
[07:16] <Jimmey> POVaddct, the script looks for the files that are on the isos in /mnt/cdrom
[07:16] <jad> lopzided: Ok, you are lucky. stop teasing me now
[07:16] <Jimmey> I'm trying to install a game, and I'm getting the "now insert disk two" kind of messages
[07:16] <eracc> Szef666, frankly I would not trust Window$ to touch my non-Micro$oft file systems. I'm a Linux/Unix bigot. ;-)
[07:17] <Jimmey> Which means I've to wipe the disk, and put the disk2 iso on
[07:17] <sethk> porkpie, there is nothing significantly different about ubuntu than any other linux distro.
[07:17] <lopzided> jad, sorry, lol
[07:17] <POVaddct> Jimmey: then why don't you mount the first iso to /mnt/cdrom, run the script until it prompts for the next cd, umount /mnt/cdrom, mount the second iso to /mnt/cdrom ...?
[07:17] <lufis> Rannon: I looked in my grub config file and there was a line "vga=791"... sounds like a resolution thing. Try googling "Grub screen resolution" or something along those lines.
[07:17] <sethk> porkpie, methods for building the kernel, etc., apply.  of course, freebsd is different, but that's to be expected.  :)
[07:17] <warpzero> hey guys
[07:17] <Jimmey> POVaddct, because I just did "ls /mnt", and I didn't see "cdrom"
[07:17] <warpzero> i'm having a "gnome never logs in" problem
[07:17] <Jimmey> Should I just create it?
[07:17] <Polygon89> again, if i fsck my drive, and some files end up in lost+found, will they be corrupted or just renamed
[07:17] <warpzero> and afaik its not the loopback-device problem
[07:17] <warpzero> or the esound problem
[07:18] <sethk> Jimmey, ubuntu puts those mount points in /media.
[07:18] <eracc> Szef666, that said, were I needing to share between Win$ and any of my OSS systems here I would run a separate Win$ box and use SAMBA on one of the servers.
[07:18] <roughtrader> can 32-bit apps be run in 64-bit ubuntu?
[07:18] <warpzero> an di can'g figure out wtf
[07:18] <sethk> Jimmey, you can either use /media, or create a directory in /mnt, it doesn't matter which.
[07:18] <Jimmey> sethk, that'd make more sense.
[07:18] <mumbles> eracc thats what im doing
[07:18] <higen> warpzero: what excatly is the loopback-device problem you are talking about?
[07:18] <POVaddct> Jimmey: so umount /mnt, mkdir /mnt/cdrom and mount the iso to /mnt/cdrom
[07:18] <sethk> roughtrader, no, generally not.
[07:18] <warpzero> higen, if lo isn't up it causes gnome problems apparently
[07:18] <porkpie> sethk:.OK ....so I am at the end of the install and alt f2 into a console session.  Can I create a new kernel from here
[07:18] <sethk> Jimmey, the most recent convention is that removable media devices have mount points in /media, fixed in mnt.
[07:19] <eracc> Szef666, I know that does not help with dual/multi-boot though. However, a second box running SAMBA would be usable even for a dual/multi-boot box.
[07:19] <sethk> porkpie, first thing you do is download the kernel source.  there is a kernel source package which you can find in synaptic.
[07:19] <higen> warpzero: and there is a problem where that doesnt happen? i have problem getting my lo up.. so i am just wondering if there is any solution laying around?
[07:19] <higen> (except hacking scripts)
[07:19] <Rannon> After looking through menu.lst, I found an something about defoptions=vga=791, but I'm not so sure what that means. Hmm.
[07:19] <sethk> porkpie, then you do what I already told you, about copying in the configuration, etc.
[07:19] <Szef666> eracc: 2 machines...I have such setup right now and try to consolidate data, but anyway... fck windows... thanks
[07:19] <warpzero> higen, sudo ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
[07:19] <higen> i can fix the problem in 2 sec.. but.. i want to find out WHY its happening
[07:19] <higen> warpzero: ahh.. ok.. thats not what i am looking after :)
[07:19] <vipernicus> the ubuntu livecds have reiser4 support right?
[07:20] <warpzero> higen, check your /etc/network/interfaces
[07:20] <warpzero> it should contain the lines
[07:20] <warpzero> auto lo
[07:20] <warpzero> iface lo inet loopback
[07:20] <EvanIsaac> anyone know how i can get ndisgtk
[07:20] <Szef666> POVaddct: talking about /media... which should be owner/permission of mountpoints inside /media to let user automount them?
[07:20] <SAM_theman> wow tv on ubutnu
[07:21] <higen> warpzero: done that.. my problem is that my ifstate file (under /var/run/network) dosent clear the line of lo=lo on shutdown, so on boot, loopback start getcalled, which reports, ifup: interface lo already configured
[07:21] <chrisjw> ok that method you told me doesn't work
[07:21] <higen> which is NOT true :)
[07:21] <warpzero> higen, oh... well i dont know then
[07:21] <Jimmey> sethk, okay, I tell it to mount to /media/cdrom/, but it goes to /media/cdrom0/
[07:21] <Polygon89> anyway thanks for your help guys...
[07:21] <sethk> Jimmey, that's because /media/cdrom is probably a symlink
[07:21] <oona> does anyone know how to make mounted partitions appear on the desktop autoomatically?
[07:21] <POVaddct> Szef666: mountpoint permissions have no effect for user mount permissions
[07:21] <POVaddct> Szef666: man fstab
[07:22] <Jimmey> sethk, You lost me
[07:22] <sethk> Jimmey, you can use either name, but the real name will always appear in things like the output of mount
[07:22] <sioux> hi I want upgrade my nvidia driver sudo init 3 seems not have affect
[07:22] <lufis> Rannon: Are you running the command line natively? like, not in an emulator?
[07:22] <sethk> Jimmey, /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to /media/cdrom0
[07:22] <chrisjw> __module_name__ = "aop"
[07:22] <Jimmey> sethk, I see..
[07:22] <sethk> Jimmey, so both mean the same thing.  however, output from commands (such as mount) will show you the real name
[07:22] <chrisjw> aop.test() doesn't work, it says aop is undefined
[07:22] <sethk> Jimmey, so it can be a bit confusing, but nothing is wrong.
[07:22] <Szef666> POVaddct: fstab has: /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults,rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:23] <Jimmey> sethk, but when I run the script looking for the files, it says "insert the CD3..."
[07:23] <Jimmey> But CD3's iso is mounted in cdrom0
[07:23] <sethk> Jimmey, and?
[07:23] <POVaddct> Szef666: so whats the problem?
[07:23] <AlexC> Is there anyway to make my Middle Mouse click act as Double Click?
[07:23] <sethk> Jimmey, what does a cd label have to do with a mount point?
[07:23] <warpzero> anyone have any ideas on why gnome is never logging in for me?
[07:23] <Szef666> POVaddct: gid 46 is plugdev, my user is in plugdev group, and i cannot mount that partition;
[07:23] <sethk> warpzero, you aren't using a user name and password that it recognizes, most likely.
[07:23] <mumbles> im gettign a "the greter application apperas to be crashing"  errer when startign ubuntu
[07:24] <Jimmey> sethk, this script's looking for CD3 in the cdrom drive, and it worked when I burned the files to a CD, and put that into the drive
[07:24] <Jimmey> But it's not working now
[07:24] <warpzero> sethk, not the problem, its hanging somewhere with only gconfd and dbus started
[07:24] <Szef666> POVaddct: it says that only root can mount "mount: only root can mount /dev/hda2 on /media/hda2"
[07:24] <POVaddct> Szef666: it should be mounted at boot  (there is no "noauto" option)
[07:24] <chrisjw> NameError: name 'aop' is not defined
[07:24] <chrisjw> so again
[07:24] <sethk> Jimmey, you are confusing the issue by mentioning disk labels. such as cd3.  Do this:    ls -ld /media/cdrom*
[07:24] <chrisjw> how do i call a function from within a python script from xchat
[07:24] <sethk> Jimmey, see if /media/cdrom shows up
[07:24] <chrisjw> is it possible?
[07:25] <sethk> Jimmey, if not, you'll have to create the link:     sudo ln -s /media/cdrom0 /media/cdrom
[07:25] <sethk> Jimmey, that's taking your word for the fact that something is looking for /media/cdrom, which seems to be what you mean.
[07:25] <Jimmey> sethk, yeah, it's there
[07:25] <Jimmey> sethk, I assume it is
[07:25] <oona> can someone tell me how to make my mounted partitions appear on the desktop?
[07:25] <POVaddct> Szef666: Szef666 either add "user,noauto" or leave fstab as it is
[07:25] <ashzilla> Hi, what bash command do I use to see what processes are running?
[07:25] <_Spire_> ashzilla: ps ax
[07:25] <sethk> Jimmey, don't assume.  why do you think so?
[07:26] <ashzilla> _Spire_: Thank you.
[07:26] <POVaddct> Szef666: your currect fstab should mount the ntfs partition at boot time, so it must be mounted right now
[07:26] <warpzero> anyone have any ideas on why gnome never starts for me?
[07:26] <sethk> Jimmey, usually, when things don't work, it's because you assumed something, and that something isn't true.
[07:26] <Jimmey> sethk, "Please mount the Commandos 2 Disc 2 CDROM"
[07:26] <lufis> oona: You can symlink the mount points to directories on your desktop... thats what i do
[07:26] <sethk> warpzero, I just answered that question.
[07:26] <rexbron> hello, when ever i run an app requireing 3d acceleration, i get this error: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[07:26] <sethk> Jimmey, that message says nothing about a mount point.
[07:26] <warpzero> sethk, well i can login on the console just fine
[07:26] <Szef666> POVaddct: mount -a as root works, but previously it worked like automount when user clicked it in "computer" :)
[07:26] <_Spire_> ashzilla: that lists all running processes with the tty they're on and their PID
[07:26] <warpzero> oh i get it
[07:26] <warpzero> you're being sarcastic
[07:26] <sethk> warpzero, no
[07:26] <skpl> can someone tell me how to make my mounted partitions appear on the desktop?
[07:27] <sethk> warpzero, not at all.
[07:27] <AlexC> gah, Linux needs a damm good FTP Client - gFTP really does suck
[07:27] <sethk> warpzero, what happens when you try to log in with gnome?
[07:27] <POVaddct> Szef666: even mount -a should not be necessary, it is mounted _at_boot_time_
[07:27] <warpzero> sethk, never shows the loading splash
[07:27] <sethk> warpzero, people ask that question frequently and the problem is they are using the wrong password.  I have no way of knowing whether that makes sense for you are not, so I ask.
[07:27] <Arrick2> !iptables
[07:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[07:27] <sethk> warpzero, that's what it doesn't do.  what does it do?
[07:27] <ashzilla> _Spire_: Useful info, thank you.
[07:27] <warpzero> sethk, starts gconfd, dbus, and ssh-agent
[07:27] <EvanIsaac> how do i get to ndisgtk?
[07:28] <Szef666> POVaddct: you're right, but maybe I've messed with /dev... now it is brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 2 2006-10-01 19:24 /dev/hda2
[07:28] <sethk> warpzero, ok, good, but what do you see on the screen?
[07:28] <EvanIsaac> how do i get ndisgtk?
[07:28] <warpzero> sethk, logs about 5 lines ending with gconfd's config loading stuff user.log
[07:28] <Jimmey> sethk, I assume it's looking in /media/cdrom/ because when I burned this "Commandos 2 Disc 3 CDROM" to a disc and put it into the disctray, I didn't get the error
[07:28] <EvanIsaac> how do i get ndisgtk?
[07:28] <warpzero> sethk, just brown, movable pointer
[07:28] <sethk> warpzero, ok, and then?
[07:28] <KenSentMe> !repeat > EvanIsaac
[07:28] <warpzero> sethk, and then... nothing
[07:28] <warpzero> it just stops
[07:28] <EvanIsaac> i don't care
[07:28] <sethk> warpzero, the screen is blank?
[07:28] <warpzero> gnome never continues to load
[07:28] <EvanIsaac> i've been asking for half an hour
[07:28] <ashzilla> Okay, so I found the server I'm trying to get ftp access enabled via root is using proftpd. How can I now create a new user/pass?
[07:28] <KenSentMe> EvanIsaac: then i won't help
[07:28] <EvanIsaac> and it seems like a pretty commonly used program
[07:29] <rayston> hello all
[07:29] <sethk> warpzero, that's an assumption, although probably correct, but an assumption nevertheless.  the screen is blank?
[07:29] <Rannon> I can get this to work. I'm going to try Fedora. Good luck everyone! =)
[07:29] <warpzero> sethk, its blank brown
[07:29] <warpzero> with a pointer
[07:29] <Rannon> Thanks for your help.
[07:29] <_Spire_> EvanIsaac: apt-get install ndisgtk maybe?
[07:29] <sethk> warpzero, ok, and it stays that way forever?
[07:29] <warpzero> sethk, yes
[07:29] <warpzero> sethk, let it sit there all night
[07:29] <rayston> one of my secondary hard drives is suddenly unavailable, it says something about a corrupted superblock when I boot, and then when I boot, I can see the HD in the disks tool but it is unavailable and clicking enable has no effect
[07:30] <sethk> warpzero, ok.  switch to a console, log in, and do    ps aux     and see what the last few processes are.
[07:30] <KenSentMe> EvanIsaac: why not just apt-get install ndisgtk?
[07:30] <sethk> warpzero, we need to see what it is waiting for.
[07:30] <skpl> can someone tell me how to make my mounted partitions appear on the desktop?
[07:30] <warpzero> sethk, gconfd-2, dbus-daemon, dbus-launch, ssh-agent
[07:30] <EvanIsaac> couldn't find package ndisgtk
[07:30] <Szef666> POVaddct: pls, list here permissions for any partition/mountpoint that automount in nautilus and I'll shut up
[07:30] <warpzero> sethk, besides obviously the bash i just started
[07:30] <_Spire_> EvanIsaac: do you have universe enabled?
[07:30] <higen> in systemv is it like this that all files that are named (link named) K**Name executes with <scriptname> stop  and S**Name get executed with <scriptname> start ?
[07:31] <_Spire_> !universe
[07:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:31] <EvanIsaac> how do i know whether i have universe enabled or not?
[07:31] <higen> !systemv
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about systemv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <higen> !sysv
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sysv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <POVaddct> Szef666: i don't have ubuntu here, sorry
[07:31] <_Spire_> EvanIsaac: uncomment the universe section in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:31] <_Spire_> !easysource > EvanIsaac
[07:31] <_Spire_> EvanIsaac: or you can try that
[07:31] <sethk> warpzero, try renaming the .gnome*   directory (ies) in your $HOME
[07:32] <rayston> how do I figure out whats wrong with my secondary HD?
[07:32] <sethk> warpzero, I run kde so I don't have the name in front of me.  there will be one or two directories starting with .gnome
[07:32] <AlexC> Anyone know of a GOOD ftp client that doesn't give you RSI and actually works?
[07:32] <Szef666> POVaddct: heh, I'm gentoo-convert and this auto-magick behind ubuntu is scarying me , thanks
[07:32] <ricky> how can i install flash player ?
[07:32] <sethk> warpzero, if you rename those, it puts you into the state you are in the first time you log into the desktop.
[07:32] <_Spire_> !flash
[07:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:32] <warpzero> sethk, there are no .gnome* directories in my home directory, but i've already tried clearing every dotfile there was
[07:32] <KenSentMe> AlexC: what's wrong with nautilus or gftpd?
[07:32] <harisund> AlexC I am not sure, but Gnome's Nautilus itself is pretty good
[07:32] <warpzero> sethk, this problem started the first login, i have never logged in to gnome
[07:33] <sethk> warpzero, so .gnome* never gets created.  that is odd.  sounds like the install didn't complete.
[07:33] <Doc__> Who here has frostwire
[07:33] <_Spire_> ricky: try "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:33] <AlexC> KenSentMe, gFTP has no Tree View which makes my wrists/fingers hurt from double clicking in and out of many many files, you can only be connected to one FTP at a time and it just randomly crashes
[07:33] <sethk> warpzero, try installing the desktop again, using the --reinstall flag with apt-get
[07:33] <ompaul> Szef666, are you ready to use packages and reject days a week of compile time? you don't need to compile here unless you fixing a bug
[07:33] <AlexC> harisund, AFAIK Nautilus is only a Viewer for FTP?
[07:33] <sethk> warpzero, you get the normal login screen, which means X is installed and configured properly.
[07:33] <EvanIsaac> so do i just uncomment the two ones that start with deb?
[07:33] <Arrick2> how do I start the firestarter gui
[07:33] <_Spire_> AlexC: gFTP is a bit of a PITA
[07:33] <warpzero> sethk, yeah iknow
[07:34] <AlexC> Linux needs something like SmartFTP
[07:34] <Doc__> does anyone have frostwire
[07:34] <sethk> warpzero, so (as root) try    apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop    (if you haven't already tried this)
[07:34] <AlexC> SmartFTP is _the_ best FTP client I have ever used
[07:34] <_Spire_> AlexC: you could run it with wine
[07:34] <ompaul> !repeat > Doc__
[07:34] <warpzero> sethk, i haven't, i will
[07:34] <sethk> warpzero, the .gnome* directories are created very early in startup, so something fairly basic is missing.
[07:34] <KenSentMe> EvanIsaac: yes
[07:34] <Doc__> when you first got it did you have trouble opening it
[07:34] <livingtm> Im having trouble getting Xorg running on my laptop with the ATI proprietary drivers. lscpi reports "Radeon Mobility U1"
[07:34] <AlexC> _Spire_, mmm, I tried but with no luck
[07:34] <ricky> spire it tells me it is installed
[07:35] <sethk> warpzero, try, there is a chance it will fix it.   not certain by any means, but worth trying.
[07:35] <ompaul> AlexC, this is not windows it is an alternative and you have access to the source to make any of the ftp clients you find work the same way
[07:35] <Szef666> ompaul: laziness... but i feel i HAVE to recompile few things, kernel and alsa for the beginning
[07:35] <ompaul> Szef666, prepare to break your box
[07:35] <warpzero> sethk, yeah its running
[07:35] <ompaul> :)
[07:35] <_Spire_> ricky: hmmm... that's strange. It should work
[07:35] <ricky> _spire_ but i can'r use it in firefox
[07:35] <sethk> warpzero, ok.
[07:35] <Arrick2> Lets say I installed Firestarter through synaptic package manager, why doesnt it show up anywhere so i can use it?
[07:35] <warpzero> sethk, hmm its downloading packages i'm not sure if they should've been cached by install
[07:35] <Doc__> ompaul: did you have porblems opening it at the begining
[07:36] <warpzero> so maybe i am missing stuff
[07:36] <Szef666> ompaul: heh,i've allready broken automount in nautilus
[07:36] <sureshot> does anyone know how to install and make work aiglx
[07:36] <ompaul> Doc__, (A) I don't use it (B) I got the bot to send you a message please read it
[07:36] <jelly-home> Hi, do ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repositories?
[07:36] <ompaul> jelly-home, yes
[07:36] <svu> sureshot, if you find the answer - pls let me know ;)
[07:36] <_Spire_> jelly-home: no
[07:36] <KenSentMe> !aiglx > sureshot
[07:37] <svu> !aiglx
[07:37] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:37] <sureshot> i have a url but i cant seem to make it install
[07:37] <hume> how can I get a pdf-printer available in OO? I have cups-pdf installed, but no pdf-printer shows up either in OO print dialog or in gnome-cups-manager when I try to install new printer
[07:37] <jelly-home> ompaul, _Spire_: now which is it? :-)
[07:37] <ricky> how can i install flas player in firefox
[07:37] <sureshot> i can give you that url if you wish
[07:37] <svu> sureshot, it seems it is for dapper not for eft
[07:37] <ompaul> jelly-home, yes
[07:37] <KenSentMe> !flash > ricky
[07:37] <ricky> yeah
[07:37] <sureshot> i am running dapper
[07:37] <warpzero> isn't eft due out soon
[07:37] <ricky> how i can do it
[07:37] <KenSentMe> !flash
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:38] <sureshot> it is in beta
[07:38] <ricky> yeah
[07:38] <ompaul> warpzero, 20th this month wrong channel for it - that is #ubuntu+1
[07:38] <KenSentMe> ricky: read the pages and do what is written
[07:38] <ricky> how can i install it in firefox
[07:38] <warpzero> ompaul, just musing
[07:38] <warpzero> ompaul, i don't run unstable ubuntus
[07:38] <intelikey> hello, anyone in here know anything about getting a generic js0 to work ?
[07:38] <ricky> where is that pages
[07:38] <CharonX> Does anyone know how to write a file in vi as another user ? eg: I opened a file as my normal user modified it but I did not realize it was read only, now I need to save it as root ? Can I sudo my write command ?
[07:38] <intelikey> or maybe i should ask, howto enable gameport ?
[07:38] <Doc__> what is a good p2p
[07:38] <ompaul> !frostwire > Doc__
[07:38] <svu> sureshot, do you mean the page on ubuntu wiki?
[07:39] <ompaul> Doc__, read the message the bot sent you
[07:39] <_Spire_> ricky: try uninstalling flash player, going to a site with a flash object, clicking on the "click here to install" thing and let it install. it should work
[07:39] <Doc__> wtf  do you mean by !frostwire
[07:39] <jelly-home> ompaul: basically the only difference is the preinstalled packages?  I'm currently using XFCE + some KDE apps on Debian etch, thinking of switching the distro.
[07:39] <KenSentMe> ricky: there are 3 links in the text ubotu sends you
[07:39] <Tokenbad> I can prob send out that computer stuff tomorrow ok?
[07:39] <KenSentMe> ricky: and there it says: Install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[07:39] <ompaul> jelly-home, come on in the water is nice
[07:39] <KenSentMe> ricky: that's what you should do
[07:40] <ompaul> jelly-home, xubuntu
[07:40] <mike_stern> to setuid(0) do i need to supply root paas?
[07:40] <Doc__> what did you mean by !frostwire >Doc__
[07:40] <crazy_penguin> Good night everyone!
[07:40] <jelly-home> ompaul: Didn't know there was one with xfce, thanks.
[07:40] <KenSentMe> Doc__: check what ubotu said to you
[07:40] <sureshot> brb
[07:40] <POVaddct> jelly-home: you can also install ubuntu and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   (thats a metapackage)
[07:40] <POVaddct> jelly-home: but with xubuntu, you have xfce by default
[07:41] <KenSentMe> Doc__: in private message
[07:41] <jelly-home> POVaddct: I'd like to skip removing the gnome cruft if possible though.
[07:41] <LinAsH> hello, I forgot the name of the (only) free flash player that plays video,  someone can help me ?
[07:41] <warpzero> is there a metapackage for all the development tools and documentation you'll ever need
[07:41] <sureshot> this page is not a wiki page
[07:41] <Arrick2> well I guess I will just go to windows for help with ubuntu, seems thats the only place I can get answers, thanks anyways guys and gals, have fun.
[07:41] <POVaddct> jelly-home: then install xubuntu
[07:41] <Doc__> I know where to get it and everything im having problems running it
[07:41] <EvanIsaac> kensentme: so now i installed the .inf files,  now what?
[07:42] <jelly-home> LinAsH: the only free flash I know of is gnash
[07:42] <LinAsH> thanks jelly-home
[07:42] <ompaul> Doc__, if you follow those instuctions it should help you install it so that it works - check the steps you took
[07:42] <sam_k> How do you enable directory browsing in apache?
[07:42] <KenSentMe> Doc__: then tell us what problems you have. Do you get errors etc.
[07:42] <ricky> i have the package installed but doesn't work
[07:42] <Olof> Hello. I'm gonna install ubuntu desktop version on my PC. Is there a beginners guide for installing it somewhere?
[07:42] <Doc__> no when i run it nothing happens NOTHING at all
[07:42] <KenSentMe> EvanIsaac: i don't know, never used the package
[07:42] <EvanIsaac> oh ok
[07:42] <EvanIsaac> thanks anyway
[07:42] <Doc__> and i was wonder if anyone had this problem
[07:43] <Doc__> and what they did to fix it
[07:43] <KenSentMe> ricky: have you closed firefox completely and restarted it?
[07:43] <sioux> hi how can I upgrade my nvidia driver?
[07:43] <rayston> how do I figure out what is wrong with my HD that suddenly is unavailable?
[07:43] <eracc> Arrick2, you are asking about firewall setup. Many people know nothing about that. However, I use a set of scripts for my clients running Linux based web/e-mail servers. I found the scripts on tldp.org and modified them.
[07:43] <ricky> nno
[07:43] <KenSentMe> Doc__: try running it from console
[07:43] <KenSentMe> Doc__: maybe you get an error
[07:43] <ricky> how can i do that?
[07:43] <Doc__> what command would i use
[07:43] <eracc> ... and he left while I was typing ...
[07:43] <KenSentMe> ricky:  close firefox
[07:43] <_Spire_> AlexC: I got smartftp running with wine... sort of
[07:43] <KenSentMe> ricky: and all ff windows. The run it again
[07:44] <intelikey>        anyone in here know anything about getting a generic js0 to work ?  or maybe i should be asking, howto enable a gameport on the sound card ?     anyone ?
[07:44] <ricky> what?
[07:44] <Doc__> what command do i use
[07:44] <ricky> can you explain
[07:44] <KenSentMe> ricky: just close firefox
[07:44] <ricky> yah
[07:44] <prophet> after a .deb package isntalls where can i find the software?
[07:44] <sureshot> hey all here is that aiglx url i did not forget you i have company sorry http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/
[07:44] <ricky> i did it
[07:44] <KenSentMe> ricky: and then open it
[07:45] <KenSentMe> Doc__: try frostwire
[07:45] <ricky> i do it
[07:45] <KenSentMe> ricky: and does it work now?
[07:45] <Doc__> just type in frostwire in ther termianal
[07:45] <mipstien> what program is good to get a multimedia keyboard working in linux?
[07:45] <KenSentMe> Doc__: yes
[07:45] <Doc__> ok
[07:46] <ricky> no
[07:46] <warpzero> sethk, yeah that fixed it
[07:46] <KenSentMe> ricky: did you install flashplugin-nonfree?
[07:47] <warpzero> sethk, thanks
[07:47] <ashzilla> is there a command to exit out of ssh safely?
[07:47] <ricky> when i type about:plugins only it tells me that i have java installed
[07:47] <ricky> in firefox
[07:47] <POVaddct> ashzilla: just exit the shell
[07:47] <KenSentMe> ashzilla: type exit
[07:47] <ashzilla> Okay.
[07:47] <KenSentMe> ricky: no, just the package in ubuntu
[07:47] <ricky> en i have flashplugin-nonfree instaled
[07:47] <eracc> mipstien, that depends on your GUI for the most part. One can assign applications to custom keys in both KDE and Gnome (IIRC). How to do that I know not (I don't use those GUIs).
[07:47] <Doc__> i need a new version of both java and sun java
[07:47] <AlanL> Hi, has anyone here had any experience with covide - the groupware app
[07:48] <prophet> how do toy create a shortcut if its not in the application menus?
[07:48] <lunaphyte> do i have to use the amd64 installer on an opteron?
[07:48] <ricky> so what i have to do?
[07:48] <KenSentMe> ricky: hmm that's strange. Did you get any errors when you installed the package?
[07:48] <eracc> mipstien, I can tell you how to assign custom keybindings in fluxbox ... probably not what you want though. :-)
[07:48] <ricky> no
[07:48] <ricky> i typed sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:49] <mipstien> i was using fluxbox last week :P just reinstalled eveyrhting tho
[07:49] <ashzilla> Where would the configuration file be located for proftpd?
[07:49] <ashzilla> So I can add users. :o
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> prophet: Try looking into xbindkeys
[07:49] <KenSentMe> ricky: are you sure you closed firefox completely, so all windows (like downloads) are closed?
[07:50] <infbliss> messed up the /etc/sudoers file. can anybody tell me what can i do
[07:50] <ricky> yah
[07:50] <sureshot> who ever needed that aiglx url did you get it
[07:50] <KenSentMe> ashzilla: there's no config file for proftpd users. The main config file is /etc/proftpd.conf
[07:51] <ashzilla> KenSentMe: Is that where I'd add a user?
[07:51] <ericz> proftpd uses system users, doesn't it?
[07:51] <ashzilla> KenSentMe: I'm just trying to make an ftp account for my server to avoid having to transfer files through scp.
[07:51] <KenSentMe> ashzilla: what ericz says. Proftpd uses system users
[07:52] <ompaul> infbliss, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25421/
[07:52] <Warbo> Hi, I am trying to get the demo of Quake 3 running, but I can't get sound. I have followed the suggestions in the help wiki page, and TLDP suggested running it through artsd, but artsd doesn't run :(
[07:52] <eracc> ashzilla, I use kermit over ssh from columbia.edu to x-fer data all the time. IMO that is better than setting up an insecure FTP server.
[07:53] <green_earz> ashzilla: you can use sftp over ssh,   there is a gui app gftp
[07:53] <KenSentMe> ricky: i have no ideas anymore, maybe a reboot works?
[07:53] <ricky> that doesn'y work
[07:53] <ricky> i did it
[07:53] <ashzilla> green_earz: I plan on disabling ssh login via password, will that method still work with gftp?
[07:54] <ashzilla> (I use gftp frequently)
[07:54] <rayston> how do I figure out what is wrong with my HD that suddenly is unavailable?
[07:54] <rayston> what tools are available to me?
[07:54] <sioux> folks how can I install kernel source? With synaptic linux-image-source seems installed in /usr/src as tar.bz2 file. Is it normal?
[07:55] <green_earz> ashzilla:   gftp will work on ssh key,  just ssh-agent then ssh-add
[07:55] <syosoft> hey guys, so i did something really stupid. i was trying to mount a new volume but fstab wasnt letting me save over it, so without a 2nd thought, i rm /etc/fstab....
[07:55] <Warbo> sioux: linux-source-2.6.15 will make a tarball in /usr/src, yes. The headers, which are needed for compiling modules, can be installed from the package linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:55] <syosoft> how can i recover/recreate that file??
[07:55] <syosoft> i havent rebooted yet...
[07:55] <ricky> ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[07:55] <Warbo> syosoft: Look around the web for one, then tweak it to suit your computer
[07:56] <KenSentMe> ricky: maybe you could try installing firefox manually like is written on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:56] <Warbo> syosoft: I could pastebin mine if you want
[07:56] <yemu> hi, can I ask some edgy question here?
[07:56] <KenSentMe> yemu: you better check #ubuntu+1 channel
[07:56] <yemu> ok, thanks
[07:56] <Szef666> sysoft: get Warbo's fstab and consult it with your /etc/mtab
[07:56] <syosoft> i dont even knwo my needs. i'm still a linux noob....maybe i could pastebin what mount tells me and a kind soul could rebuild it for me?
[07:56] <sioux> warbo I need that for upgrade my nvidia driver. The installar says that I do not have source kernel even if I installed the linux image source
[07:56] <syosoft> mtab you say...
[07:56] <syosoft> yea, i'll take whateve ri can get - greatly appreciated.
[07:57] <eracc> syosoft, you just proved that one can still FUBAR an OS even using sudo? :-)
[07:57] <Warbo> sioux: Drivers need the headers
[07:57] <syosoft> hah, yea, no doubt.
[07:57] <syosoft> i feel like a dolt.
[07:57] <ashzilla> if I su root, what command can I enter to return to my other none su account?
[07:57] <KenSentMe> ashzilla: exit
[07:57] <Chousuke> ctrl-d works too
[07:58] <ashzilla> KenSentMe: No, I mean... If I was ssh'd and while in the remote box su'd
[07:58] <Warbo> OK, this is my fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25423/
[07:58] <KenSentMe> ashzilla: that works too
[07:58] <sonium> I think I corrupted my system by loosing data. Can someone tell my how I can check LVM partitions?
[07:58] <eracc> syosoft, oh, don't feel bad. I did an 'rm -rf /home/user *' while in /etc as root once while on a PRODUCTION SCO Unixware 7 box. :-)
[07:58] <Chousuke> ashzilla: su launches another shell
[07:58] <Warbo> "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[07:58] <Chousuke> ashzilla: exit just exits that shell
[07:59] <Szef666> Warbo: pls, paste ls -la /media and  ls -la /dev/hd* for me...
[07:59] <syosoft> yea, that line doestn read good....
[07:59] <Olof> this is a bit of topic, but can i burn a CD iso (ubuntu iso) on  a dvd?
[07:59] <syosoft> am i waiting for  a paste bin or we still in limbo?
[07:59] <ashzilla> How can I change the password of a new user account
[07:59] <Warbo> sonium: You can check the filesystems on the logical volumes, but not the actual partitions. In other words run fsck on /dev/mapper/VolumeGroupName-VolumeName rather than /dev/hdXX
[07:59] <Szef666> Warbo: cause I messed it and automounting partitions got crazy
[07:59] <ravalox> how do you take a screenshot with xine?
[08:00] <KenSentMe> ashzilla: sudo passwd <username>
[08:00] <sonium> ok.. will try that
[08:01] <dfgas> what do you think would be better, a celeron 700 or a p3 667. its only 37mhz difference
[08:01] <eracc> syosoft, what the 'rm -rf /home/user *' while in /etc did was remove the user, "/home/user" as intended, and then everything under /etc, "*" as not intended. I skipped the "/" between user and *.
[08:01] <syosoft> and whats worse is that i mindfully ctrl+c everything in that file.
[08:01] <Warbo> I bet this isn't much use, but here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25424/
[08:01] <syosoft> and when i did
[08:01] <syosoft> sudo /etc/fstab
[08:01] <Olof> dfgas: p3
[08:01] <syosoft> adn then ctrl+v nothing was there, was a shame.
[08:01] <green_earz> dfgas:  same here the p3
[08:01] <syosoft> ah, yea, that really doesnt sound good.
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[08:01] <blackmanheartiez> I COME HERE TO CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LILO (AKA ROB LEVIN AKA JEW) AND TO INVITE YOU ALL TO WWW.GNAA.US OR /SERVER -m IRC.GNAA.US -j #GNAA . On a side note i need lilo's wyfe sellfone in order to schedule an anal fest meeting with that fucking hooker and hes son. I WANT TO RAPE BOTH. IM REALLY ENJOYING LILO'S DEATH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
[08:02] <ravalox> how do you take a screenshot with xine?
[08:02] <jrib> !ops
[08:02] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:02] <blackmanheartiez> I COME HERE TO CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LILO (AKA ROB LEVIN AKA JEW) AND TO INVITE YOU ALL TO WWW.GNAA.US OR /SERVER -m IRC.GNAA.US -j #GNAA . On a side note i need lilo's wyfe sellfone in order to schedule an anal fest meeting with that fucking hooker and hes son. I WANT TO RAPE BOTH. IM REALLY ENJOYING LILO'S DEATH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
[08:02] <sureshot> someone kick him
[08:02] <DoubleT> hi all
[08:02] <blackmanheartiez> I COME HERE TO CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LILO (AKA ROB LEVIN AKA JEW) AND TO INVITE YOU ALL TO WWW.GNAA.US OR /SERVER -m IRC.GNAA.US -j #GNAA . On a side note i need lilo's wyfe sellfone in order to schedule an anal fest meeting with that fucking hooker and hes son. I WANT TO RAPE BOTH. IM REALLY ENJOYING LILO'S DEATH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
[08:02] <blackmanheartiez> lol
[08:02] <blackmanheartiez> I COME HERE TO CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LILO (AKA ROB LEVIN AKA JEW) AND TO INVITE YOU ALL TO WWW.GNAA.US OR /SERVER -m IRC.GNAA.US -j #GNAA . On a side note i need lilo's wyfe sellfone in order to schedule an anal fest meeting with that fucking hooker and hes son. I WANT TO RAPE BOTH. IM REALLY ENJOYING LILO'S DEATH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
[08:02] <syosoft> is there any information i can give to you guys what would assist in recreating fstab for me?
[08:02] <blackmanheartiez> I COME HERE TO CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LILO (AKA ROB LEVIN AKA JEW) AND TO INVITE YOU ALL TO WWW.GNAA.US OR /SERVER -m IRC.GNAA.US -j #GNAA . On a side note i need lilo's wyfe sellfone in order to schedule an anal fest meeting with that fucking hooker and hes son. I WANT TO RAPE BOTH. IM REALLY ENJOYING LILO'S DEATH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
[08:02] <DoubleT> I'm having some trouble installing apache, php5 and MySQL on Ubuntu Desktop ! :(
[08:03] <Warbo> syosoft: Pastebin "mount"
[08:03] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: thanx
[08:03] <syosoft> k, doing it now.
[08:03] <jrib> DoubleT: have you seen the wiki page?
[08:03] <Warbo> (I mean the output of the command, before you go and pastebin the word "mount" :) )
[08:03] <DoubleT> i know
[08:03] <sonium> how can I mount LVMs?
[08:03] <anon32> help!
[08:03] <syosoft> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25425/
[08:03] <jrib> DoubleT: that means yes, you have seen the wiki page?
[08:03] <whazilla> damn what's black man's prob
[08:03] <Warbo> sonium: try "ls /dev/mapper"
[08:03] <DoubleT> everything went fine, untill I tried to sudo apt-get mysql-server
[08:03] <anon32> what repository do I need to add in order to get mplayer?
[08:03] <Warbo> sonium: that should tell you the device names
[08:03] <BlueLaguna> Hello, I'm trying to install the msttcorefonts package, but it says "Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[08:04] <BlueLaguna> I have all sources uncommented
[08:04] <jrib> DoubleT: what happened then?
[08:04] <sureshot> gnomefreek thanks man i tried but i am not a channel operator
[08:04] <Warbo> anon32: multiverse I htink
[08:04] <anon32> Warbo: synaptic doesn't report a repository by that name..
[08:04] <jrib> BlueLaguna: you need dapper multiverse
[08:04] <Warbo> sonium: device names might also be in "/dev/VolumeGroupName"
[08:04] <sonium> Warbo: thx, was in the mapper
[08:05] <Warbo> anon32: "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse"
[08:05] <DoubleT> jrib: I get the follwoing error:
[08:05] <DoubleT> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:05] <DoubleT>   mysql-server: Depends: mysql-client (>= 4.0.24-10ubuntu2.3)
[08:05] <DoubleT> E: Broken packages
[08:05] <Warbo> (I think)
[08:05] <anon32> mm, synaptic reports something called backport
[08:05] <anon32> what's that?
[08:05] <BlueLaguna> jrib: oh yeah, thanks, I forgot I had to add that
[08:05] <Warbo> anon32: That is newer package versions than in regular ubuntu
[08:05] <jrib> DoubleT: ok, do you have any unofficial repositories?  Or have you installed any unofficial packages?
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> anon32: It's a repo for newer versions of packages that someone thought was worth packaging up for the current release.
[08:06] <DoubleT> jrib: euhm, dont know
[08:06] <syosoft> I also have tihs
[08:06] <syosoft> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25426/
[08:06] <DoubleT> jrib: like what ?
[08:06] <Warbo> Ubuntu only gets updates when there are security/stability issues. Backports exist for features
[08:06] <jrib> DoubleT: ok, pastebin your sources.list please
[08:06] <syosoft>  /dev/hdb is what i was trying to mount.
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> anon32: The usual policy is that after version freeze (before release date), all of the packages stay the same except for security updates.  Backports allows you to get feature updates on select things too.
[08:07] <earthian> hello
[08:07] <KenSentMe> earthian: hi
[08:07] <anon32> mm, I have 168 updates to install..
[08:07] <warpzero> HERRO
[08:07] <Warbo> syosoft: Sorry, I didn't see your original paste, I'm taking a look now :)
[08:07] <anon32> god, this is worse than Windows
[08:08] <Warbo> anon32: Why? Because all of the updates are in one convenient place, rather than seperate websites?
[08:08] <mike_stern> patrick@snoopy:~$ ls -al private
[08:08] <mike_stern> -rws--x--x  1 root root 36 Oct  1 00:33 private
[08:08] <anon32> Warbo: still, 168 updates...
[08:08] <piquadrat> hi all. I have a problem with the Installer from Edgy Eft Beta. On hardware detection, the installer crashes with the message "HwDetect failed with code 10". Anyone seen this already and knows how to solve it? Happens both with Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[08:08] <mike_stern> i am getting access denied
[08:08] <mike_stern> even though its set SUID
[08:08] <syosoft> No worries.
[08:08] <mike_stern> s
[08:08] <foo> vncviewer -compresslevel 0 -quality 0 172.16.1.253 - why does the quality look the same if I leave out these options?
[08:08] <anon32> anyway, what's the name of the mplayer package?
[08:08] <anon32> and the name of the codec pack?
[08:08] <mike_stern> ./private returns access denied
[08:08] <KenSentMe> piquadrat: check the #ubuntu+1 channel for edgy stuff
[08:08] <mike_stern> can someone explain to me?
[08:08] <earthian> how do i configure my ubuntu so my samba shares would be accesible from windows systems??? Now i see the ubuntu computer however when i open it it asks me for a password. i enter root/pw and i get access denied i enter then other user name and passw but it does not connect to me to my samba shares. HOW DO I DO IT?
[08:08] <earthian> !samba
[08:08] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:09] <mitrovarr> any idea what kind of linux support I'd be looking at with a radeon x1900 xt?  I'm building a new system
[08:09] <piquadrat> KenSentMe: ok, thanks!
[08:09] <mitrovarr> I know in the past ATI had semi-acceptable linux support, but I think I might have heard that the x1--- cards didn't have any support whatsoever
[08:09] <anon32> gah, I'm in dependency hell
[08:09] <mike_stern> private: just echoes $UID
[08:09] <KenSentMe> !ati > mitrovarr
[08:09] <mike_stern> i wanna check if sUId is working correctly
[08:09] <bertugolu> Hello, can anyone explain me how to set up the apache server?
[08:10] <troughton> how can i browse my ubuntu network ?? it is not showing anyware
[08:10] <KenSentMe> !lamp > bertugolu
[08:10] <KenSentMe> bertugolu: check what ubotu tells you
[08:10] <bertugolu> ok
[08:10] <bertugolu> 10x
[08:10] <waxfactor2nd> hi i gues you guys are getting tired of me but i really need the computer working fast. now im using a livecd, and want to dual boot with ubuntu and xp. ive followed the tutorials to make dualboot but i dont work, i get an error 22. and when i put in the windows cd and start to load i get a black dos lookalike screen, with a thing blinking without i can write anything there... anyone knows how to make it all work??
[08:11] <mitrovarr> I know that I should be able to use fglx in theory, but I heard that it didn't work on some modern cards.  Anyone know anything about that?
[08:11] <Warbo> syosoft: OK, I am a little confused here. Is /dev/hda5 your swap?
[08:11] <anon32> say, where are the kernel headers up for download?
[08:11] <porkpie> Does anyone know if ubuntu 6.0.6 LTS amd64 has the correct driver for the PERC 5/i This is a rebranded LSI Logic MegaRAID card, megaraid_sas driver ?
[08:11] <Warbo> anon32: archive.ubuntu.com
[08:11] <syosoft> It appears to be.
[08:11] <KenSentMe> mitrovarr: maybe you can ask your question in the #ati channel. That's for ati support on linux
[08:12] <Warbo> syosoft: OK
[08:12] <syosoft> i'm just going by my 2nd pastebin
[08:12] <mitrovarr> KenSentMe:  Good idea, thanks.
[08:12] <Warbo> syosoft: And you want hdb to mount where? (also, is that hdb1? The fdisk paste doesn't show the partitions for some reason)
[08:12] <syosoft>  /mnt/storage
[08:12] <Warbo> ok
[08:13] <syosoft> er well, it's not mounted - its a single partition on the drive - fat32
[08:13] <mkquist> waxfactor2nd - u get a grub error 22? have u tried reinstalling grub w/live cd?
[08:13] <syosoft> this all came about because i wastrying to mount hdb
[08:13] <waxfactor2nd> yes
[08:13] <syosoft> and fstab was readonly, so i figure a quick copy of the file contents -> rm it -> recreate it -> paste content and dave.....
[08:14] <waxfactor2nd> or how do i install the grub??
[08:14] <syosoft> wasnt expecting the clipboard to vanish
[08:14] <syosoft> of course cp woulda worked well :-/
[08:14] <jrib> Double1: are you using breezy or are you using dapper?
[08:14] <Double1> euhmm Ubuntu 6.01 TLS ?
[08:14] <Warbo> OK, this should work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25431/
[08:15] <earthian> !smbfs
[08:15] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[08:15] <Warbo> but there may be a few things missing like CDROMs and floppies
[08:15] <earthian> how do i configure my ubuntu so my samba shares would be accesible from windows systems??? Now i see the ubuntu computer however when i open it it asks me for a password. i enter root/pw and i get access denied i enter then other user name and passw but it does not connect to me to my samba shares. HOW DO I DO IT?
[08:15] <Warbo> but at least the system will boot
[08:15] <syosoft> yea, i've got two cd drives
[08:15] <Warbo> oops
[08:15] <KenSentMe> earthian: have you added samba users with smbpasswd?
[08:15] <Warbo> hang on
[08:15] <syosoft> ok, much appreciated, it doesnt look 100% the same, i remember the options being a little weird.
[08:15] <andre> hello
[08:15] <earthian> i believe not
[08:15] <rayston> how do I figure out what is wrong with my HD that suddenly is unavailable?
[08:15] <Warbo> syosoft: one second
[08:15] <syosoft> and you didnt account for the hdb, correct?
[08:15] <rayston> what tools are available to me?
[08:15] <earthian> :)
[08:15] <syosoft> ok, sorry.
[08:15] <syosoft> figures just mvoe too fast sometimes.
[08:15] <jrib> Double1: are you using breezy or are you using dapper?
[08:16] <syosoft> *fingers rather.
[08:16] <waxfactor2nd> how do i wirte my own grub??
[08:16] <XiXaQ> is it normal to not have 1280x1024 as an option in Terminal Server Client?
[08:16] <Warbo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25433/
[08:16] <waxfactor2nd> sry how do a fix the grub so i can dual boot
[08:16] <syosoft> you cant use a grub wax, you have to use an earth worm.
[08:16] <Warbo> syosoft: I originally put hdb1 as ext3, but that now says vfat (fat32)
[08:16] <Double1> jrib: I'm using Ubuntu 6.01 TLS  !!!?
[08:16] <waxfactor2nd> what/?
[08:16] <Warbo> !grub > waxfactor2nd
[08:17] <ifrozen> re
[08:17] <KenSentMe> XiXaQ: i don't have the option either
[08:17] <Warbo> waxfactor2nd: That message should tell you
[08:17] <syosoft> ok, excellent, lets hope i dont fux things up on reboot...
[08:17] <jrib> Double1: your source.list are pointing to breezy repositories.  Did you do an upgrade to dapper from breezy or is this a fresh dapper install?
[08:17] <Double1> fresh install
[08:17] <jharr> !dualboot > waxfactor2nd
[08:17] <XiXaQ> KenSentMe, isn't that weird? I had to set screen resolution to 1024x768 in order to have it full screen without using the fullscreen option. But now, the text is blurred.. :(
[08:17] <jrib> Double1: k, what does 'lsb_release -c' output?
[08:18] <troughton> how browse my ubuntu network ??
[08:18] <KenSentMe> XiXaQ: maybe it is, but i don't know much about it
[08:18] <syosoft> if hdb1 is a new mount, should i be able to immediately be able to access it?
[08:18] <Double1> jrib: Codename:       dapper
[08:18] <syosoft> or do i have to run another cmd?
[08:18] <XiXaQ> perhaps I should file a bug report.
[08:18] <KenSentMe> troughton: go to Locations > Networkservers (or something)
[08:18] <troughton> it is not there KenSentMe
[08:19] <syosoft> when i click on the drive icon -> mount: only root can mount /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/storage
[08:19] <Warbo> Can anyone help me with Quake 3 sound? I have tried with ESD and without, artsd doesn't work on my system for some reason, fuser /dev/dsp says nobody is using it but still Quake 3 can't open it
[08:19] <syosoft> thoughts?
[08:19] <jrib> Double1: k, you are going to need to get a sources.list for dapper.  I hope you haven't installed much from the breezy repos
[08:19] <jrib> ubotu: tell Double1 about easysource
[08:19] <KenSentMe> troughton: what options do you have then?
[08:19] <KenSentMe> troughton: in locations
[08:19] <Warbo> syosoft: Ah, fat32 has no permission system, so the option "uid-yourusername, users" might be a good thing to put in fstab
[08:19] <Warbo> oops
[08:20] <jrib> Double1: go to page ubotu sent you and create a dapper sources.list.  I recommend sticking to the official repos (main, restricted, universe, multiverse).  Do you know how to then replace your current sources.list with the new one?
[08:20] <Warbo> "uid=yourusername, users"
[08:20] <troughton> only windows network but i dont have a windows mashiene
[08:20] <syosoft> um, i'm putting that at the end of the partition entry in fstab?
[08:20] <Double1> jrib: yes i know how to replace sources.list
[08:20] <KenSentMe> troughton: do you have samba installed?
[08:20] <eracc> Then it is not a Windows network ...
[08:20] <troughton> no
[08:20] <Warbo> syosoft: under the column "options"
[08:20] <jrib> Double1: ok, see if that resolves your problems
[08:20] <syosoft> ok, thanks, trying now.
[08:21] <andre> do you guys use linux on palm pilot and is there a lot of software for it
[08:21] <Warbo> "users" should let regular users mount it, and "uid=yourusername" lets the user "yourusername" own the files
[08:21] <eracc> OIC, a Windows network but need a Linux machine to access it. DOH!
[08:21] <KenSentMe> troughton: you can connect to an other ubuntu system with 'Connect to server' and the use ssh
[08:21] <syosoft> hrm, double clicking on it and nothing is happening.
[08:22] <Double1> jrib: i'll give it a try, thnx
[08:22] <eracc> troughton, you are attempting to use your Ubuntu system on a network comprised of Window$ systems, correct?
[08:22] <KenSentMe> andre: i used to use one, and i could sync with evolution
[08:22] <ashzilla> scp /home/ashzilla/.ssh/id_rsa ryan@mydomain.net:/home/ryan/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[08:22] <ashzilla> why is this not woking?
[08:22] <Double1> jrib: i doesn't seem to solve my problem
[08:22] <troughton> no eracc i am temtping to use my network comprised of 2 ubuntu mashiens through a router
[08:23] <CTU24> is there an editor that I can use with ubuntu server, that is more similar to the old msDOS's "EDIT" ?
[08:23] <slight> ashzilla, what error do you get?
[08:23] <andre> evolution?
[08:23] <KenSentMe> Double1: did you do sudo apt-get update and dist-upgrade?
[08:23] <KenSentMe> troughton: use the ssh option then in connect to server
[08:23] <ashzilla> slight: that there's no such file.
[08:23] <Double1> i have run pasted the source.list generated from the link
[08:23] <Double1> run the sudo apt-get update command
[08:23] <Double1> then tried to run the following command: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[08:24] <troughton> use ssh where ?? KenSentMe
[08:24] <KenSentMe> CTU24: try nano
[08:24] <eracc> troughton, hrm. Ok. You need to use either SAMBA or NFS in my experience. I would recommend NFS. Of course KenSentMe is giving you another option.
[08:24] <Warbo> syosoft: "sudo mount -a"
[08:24] <KenSentMe> troughton: go to connect to server\
[08:24] <Double1> jrib: i get the following error:
[08:24] <Double1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:24] <Double1>   mysql-server: Depends: mysql-client (>= 4.0.24-10ubuntu2.3)
[08:24] <Double1> E: Broken packages
[08:24] <KenSentMe> Double1: did you update?
[08:24] <syosoft> hrm, reporting that it's 0 bytes
[08:24] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me troubleshoot a Broadcom wireless NIC...the card appears to be up and running, but I can't get it to connect to the router, and I want to make sure I'm not missing something obvious here
[08:24] <Warbo> ?
[08:24] <syosoft> unless th drive got fried it should be a couple gb of data
[08:24] <Warbo> syosoft: hdb1?
[08:24] <syosoft> if thats what th epartition is
[08:25] <syosoft> :-/
[08:25] <Warbo> see what "fdisk -l" gives with regards to hdb
[08:25] <syosoft> i'm just confused heh
[08:25] <CTU24> KenSentMe: can I use apt-get to get nano onto my ubuntu box?
[08:25] <Warbo> (your earlier paste did not include hdb)
[08:25] <Double1> KenSentMe: Yes i did a update
[08:25] <KenSentMe> CTU24: i think it's installed by default
[08:25] <ColdFyre> it is installed by default
[08:25] <syosoft> it wouldnt - unless it was mounted - right?
[08:25] <ColdFyre> and pico
[08:25] <CTU24> kensentme: oofercool
[08:25] <KenSentMe> Double1: and did you do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:26] <CTU24> Kensentme: thank you
[08:26] <KenSentMe> CTU24: no problem
[08:26] <syosoft> this is what it says now: /dev/hdb1               1        3321    26675901    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[08:26] <intrin[a] > DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[08:26] <Double1> KenSentMe: no, why ?
[08:26] <Warbo> syosoft: fdisk looks at the drives' partition tables, so it doesn't matter whether they are mounted or not
[08:26] <syosoft> hrm, ok, but it's giving me info now
[08:26] <KenSentMe> Double1: because you added new repositories (from Breezy to Dapper) so the new packages should be installed first
[08:26] <Warbo> OK that is what fstab is set up for. Weird
[08:26] <syosoft>  /dev/hdb1               1        3321    26675901    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[08:27] <syosoft> if i go to /etc/storage i should be able to browse the drive?
[08:27] <Double1> KenSentMe: i think i did not do an upgrade from breezy to dapper
[08:27] <syosoft> yup
[08:27] <Entity> Hi, is there a apt command that helps you finding out which package provides a specific file even if the package is not installed on the system?
[08:27] <syosoft> i see it all in there
[08:27] <Warbo> syosoft: After either rebooting or running "sudo mount -a" then yes
[08:27] <syosoft> thats fine, i only wanted to mount the drive to copyo the contents locally
[08:27] <troughton> do i have to install samba on both mashiens ??
[08:27] <Warbo> Entity: apt-file does that I think
[08:27] <syosoft> thanks again, i'll probably be back for more help about correcting my problem. thanks a lot warbo.
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> in Xchat, how do I specify a port number for a server?
[08:28] <KenSentMe> Double1: have updated your sources.list like jrib told you?
[08:28] <Double1> yes i did
[08:28] <bertugolu> how can i remove a file from the terminal?
[08:28] <Entity> Warbo, ok thanks let me check it out
[08:28] <Warbo> bertugolu: "rm filename"
[08:28] <bertugolu> ok
[08:29] <Warbo> Entity: It takes a while building a database the first time you run it though
[08:29] <KenSentMe> Double1: in that file it said breezy where it should be dapper. Now that is changed you have updated your sources.list to dapper
[08:29] <KenSentMe> Double1: you have to install the dapper version of the packages
[08:29] <eracc> Geoffrey2, XChat -> Network list -> (pick network) -> Edit -> (pick server) -> Edit -> (server/port)
[08:30] <mxpxpod> I'm trying to install from the beta edgy install CD, but when I go to create my xfs partitions, mkfs.xfs cannot be run because librt.so.1 is not found... what should I do?
[08:30] <eracc> Geoffrey2, Like - chat.us.freenode.net/8001
[08:30] <Double1> KenSentMe: I created a source list on the website jrib gave me, and I pasted that in the sources.list file
[08:30] <BlueLaguna> What's the name of that package with all the mplayer codecs?
[08:30] <syosof1> heya...
[08:30] <KenSentMe> Double1: and have you saved the file?
[08:30] <Double1> KenSentMe: yes I saved the file
[08:31] <Warbo> BlueLaguna: "w32codecs" but it is not in any official repos
[08:31] <syosof1> copying all directories to a location: cp /etc/storage * ~/Desktop/stuff isnt quite working
[08:31] <syosof1> wats the cp switch?
[08:31] <tristanmike> can I have Cedega and Wine installed at the same time ?
[08:31] <Warbo> !restricted > BlueLaguna
[08:31] <Geoffrey2> eracc, ah, that's it, thanks...I'm used to using Mirc, which had a seperate field to put the port number in
[08:31] <Chousuke> syosof1: cp -r
[08:31] <Double1> KenSentMe: but the file only contains breezy words, like in the following line:
[08:31] <Double1> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[08:31] <syosof1> ty
[08:31] <Warbo> BlueLaguna: That page will tell you how to get it
[08:31] <Double1> KenSentMe: is that correct ?
[08:31] <BlueLaguna> Warbo: thanks
[08:31] <kitche> tristanmike: yes you can have them installed at the same time
[08:31] <Warbo> np
[08:31] <KenSentMe> Double1: no
[08:32] <Chousuke> syosof1: I doubt you mean /etc/storage * though
[08:32] <KenSentMe> Double1: did you use easysource?
[08:32] <KenSentMe> !easysource
[08:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:32] <syosof1> hah
[08:32] <syosof1> right, i meant mnt/
[08:32] <tristanmike> kitche: so the wine I get from the repos won't conflict with Cedegas wine ?
[08:32] <syosof1> but yt. it's working like a charm.
[08:32] <Double1> KenSentMe: yes i used that, i forgot the set the dropdown box to dapper !
[08:32] <Double1> My bad
[08:32] <Chousuke> syosof1: did you have the space before the *?
[08:32] <syosof1> but i did mean /mnt/storage * ;) moving a "remove" drive local - temporary mount.
[08:33] <KenSentMe> Double1: well it's strange that the standard option is Breezy
[08:33] <BlueLaguna> Warbo: hmm, is there a way to add the plf repo?
[08:33] <syosof1> yea, i just didnt have -r so it "skipping directory"
[08:33] <Chousuke> syosof1: if so, it will copy everything from the current directory :P
[08:33] <BlueLaguna> if it's a repo at all
[08:33] <MenZa> I'm attempting to export a document from OO.o to a PDF onto my USB key and it seems to save--even when I refresh the folder in Konqueror. Though, when I remove the drive, it's no longer present. Any ideas?
[08:33] <syosof1> yes, thats what i want
[08:33] <syosof1> ;)
[08:33] <Chousuke> good.
[08:33] <syosof1> thanks again.
[08:33] <Chousuke> that's a common error with rm :P
[08:33] <Double1> KenSentMe: I'll give it another try
[08:33] <MenZa> I've even attempted to save the file onto my harddrive, then copy it.
[08:33] <MenZa> No luck.
[08:33] <Warbo> BlueLaguna: Yes, "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" (but I don't know if they exist anymore, I kept getting 404s)
[08:33] <jdrake> Is there any minimal iso for ubuntu that is ~100mb or less?
[08:34] <BHSPitLappy> don't believe so
[08:34] <Warbo> MenZa: You have been unmounting the drive before unplugging it haven't you?
[08:34] <MenZa> Warbo: no, it automatically unmounts and mounts the drive.
[08:34] <MenZa> (afaik)
[08:34] <Warbo> you must right click the icon and select "unmount" or "eject" otherwise some cached data may not get written
[08:35] <MenZa> ah.
[08:35] <Warbo> THEN unplug it
[08:35] <MenZa> Sweet, thanks
[08:35] <jdrake> I tried the xubuntu disk and found it does not work very well on my system, part due to media and part due to age of machine. I need something like a basic text installer for it.
[08:35] <Geoffrey2> ok, back on port 8001, so at least I know I'll be staying in here.....
[08:35] <Warbo> Does any port work for coming in here or not?
[08:35] <kitche> jdrake: the alternate cd is what you want
[08:35] <jdrake> ok
[08:36] <MenZa> that works Warbo
[08:36] <MenZa> ty
[08:36] <Warbo> Just that my Uni blocks the default one, and I had to google to find out about 8001 being used to get around that exploit
[08:36] <Warbo> you're welcome
[08:36] <Double1> KenSentMe: It all works fine now, thnx a lot
[08:37] <KenSentMe> Double1: great, and have fun!
[08:37] <Double1> got to go now,
[08:37] <Double1> cya
[08:38] <Chm0d> is there like a control panel so i can check on advanced controls for sound?
[08:38] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, I just need port 8001 because my router is vulnerable to that exploit, and Netgear apparently doesn't see the need to provide a fix for it
[08:38] <Enthusiast78> Greetings! I'm running breezy on my 112MB RAM PC. Do you think upgrading to dapper would cause performance issues?
[08:38] <geniusvicks> what does "save current set up" in the log out/shut down dialog mean?
[08:38] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Yeah, but it seems to be useful for other reasons as well (like mine) :)
[08:38] <kitche> Geoffrey2: there is a fix for it
[08:39] <Enthusiast78> geniusvicks, it saves your desktop customizations
[08:39] <Warbo> geniusvicks: The applications you have open will be restarted when you next log in
[08:39] <geniusvicks> Warbo thanks
[08:39] <geniusvicks> now I understand
[08:39] <Geoffrey2> kitche, great, what is it?
[08:39] <SAM_theman> how i convert .mp3's to waves??
[08:39] <SAM_theman> .wav..
[08:40] <Warbo> SAM_theman: get mpg123 and use it's "-w" option
[08:40] <Warbo> (or is that mpg321? I get confused)
[08:40] <stu_> why convert mp3 to wav :S
[08:40] <kitche> Geoffrey2: it has to do with a packeting feature in your router trying to fidn the exact name of it right now
[08:40] <Warbo> stu_: Because Wave is lossless :)
[08:40] <Geoffrey2> actually, #1 on my priority list is getting my wireless connection working again
[08:40] <oona> does anyone here know why the mozilla-mplaer plugin will not install through synaptoc?
[08:40] <stu_> not after its been converted from mp3
[08:40] <Warbo> stu_: exactly
[08:40] <SAM_theman> thanks
[08:41] <stu_> so, why convert from mp3 to wav
[08:41] <SAM_theman> its installing
[08:41] <stu_> it will sound the same if not worse
[08:41] <troughton> ok KenSentMe i have opend up connect to server and put my files on share folder on my other mashiene whant now ??
[08:41] <Enthusiast78> stu_, to test your filesystem
[08:41] <Warbo> Also, can soundconverter do that? I think it can, but I have only ever used it to convert to Ogg Vorbis
[08:41] <Geoffrey2> about 2 days ago my Ubuntu install ate itself, basically, forcing a complete reinstall, so I'm trying to get everything up and running again
[08:41] <stu_> eh lol
[08:41] <stu_> doesnt matter :)
[08:42] <corevette> how do you uninstall a plugin in firefox...or at least disable it
[08:42] <dbr> Use the extensions list?
[08:42] <BeepAU> i have a usb disk, it responds in windows and it responds in xubuntu, but for some reason i can't get it to show up in my ubuntu machine. i type lsusb into the terminal, it knows it's there. it just won't come up.
[08:42] <Enthusiast78> so... should I upgrade breezy to dapper on a 112 MB pc or not
[08:42] <Enthusiast78> ?
[08:43] <BeepAU> can anyone help me?
[08:43] <brian98> Enthusiast78, try the live cd and see how responsive it is?
[08:43] <dbr> Mentally or with computer related problems, BeepAU?
[08:43] <Doc__> what sudo command would i use to delete things from the /root folder
[08:43] <dbr> sudo rm /root/file
[08:43] <BeepAU> dbr - the latter
[08:43] <Enthusiast78> brian98, the live cd won't even run. it requires 256 MB.
[08:44] <brian98> Enthusiast78, that may be your answer then :)
[08:44] <Enthusiast78> brian98, lol thanks :)
[08:44] <BeepAU> Enthusiast78 - use the alternate cd. it has a text install.
[08:44] <dbr> Enthusiast78 : Try the server install, then install something like fluxbox
[08:44] <Geoffrey2> I've WiFi light is on, but I can't seem to establish a connection with the router....since I had one before the meltdown, I know it works...just not sure what I need to do to get it back again
[08:44] <brian98> Enthusiast78, http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126471-page,1/article.html?RSS=RSS
[08:44] <BeepAU> Enthusiast78 - however, you might wanna check out xubuntu, it'd probaly be nicer to your machine.
[08:44] <brian98> Enthusiast78, gives info on machines with < 192mb
[08:45] <dbr> Or Flubuntu
[08:45] <Doc__> what sudo command would i use to delete things from the /root folde
[08:45] <Enthusiast78> brian98, Yeah, I was thinking about it. thanks a lot
[08:45] <infbliss> !Flubuntu
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Flubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <dbr> Doc__ : sudo rm /root/blah
[08:45] <Doc__> ok thanks
[08:45] <dbr> http://fluxbuntu.org/
[08:46] <Warbo> If someone has a few minutes to spare I could really do with some feedback on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDSharingTrackerMockup
[08:46] <DoubleT> what tools, should i use to configure mySQL ?
[08:47] <oona> does anyone here know why the mozilla-mplaer plugin will not install through synaptoc?
[08:47] <dbr> DoubleT : PHPmyAdmin?
[08:47] <kitche> Geoffrey2: well that exploit turns off the internet so you might have to powercycle the router to get full function back
[08:47] <CONDE> Que onda
[08:47] <BeepAU> well, could anyone help me with my problem concerning the usb disk?
[08:47] <CONDE> alguien habla espaniol???
[08:47] <m1sh-L> i seach a howto to install aiglx under edgy eft! can someone help me?
[08:47] <infbliss> oona:try easyubuntu
[08:47] <infbliss> !easyubuntu
[08:47] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:47] <DoubleT> dbr: does phpmyadmin do a good job, creating user in mysql ?
[08:48] <Doc__> and a command to move something
[08:48] <Warbo> m1sh-L: help.ubuntu.com/community
[08:48] <CONDE> did somebody help me for a internet video player???
[08:48] <kitche> m1sh-L: well aiglx is installed already in edgy but #ubuntu+1 is the channel you should go to
[08:48] <Doc__> what command would i use to move something into the /root ffolder
[08:48] <Enthusiast78> DoubleT, phpmyadmin is cool
[08:49] <Warbo> Doc__: "sudo mv filename /root"
[08:49] <oona> easyubuntu sounds too risky to use
[08:49] <oona> can someone recommend a plugin for firefox to play videos?
[08:49] <dbr> Oompa : mplayer-mozilla
[08:50] <infbliss> oona:do you mean videos embedded in flash
[08:50] <Warbo> EasyUbuntu does things in a pretty safe way, but the latest version doesn't seem to come up for me anyway
[08:50] <BeepAU> Doc__ - you could type the command 'gksudo nautilus' and browse as root.
[08:50] <infbliss> oona: i too didnt have any problems with EasyUbuntu
[08:50] <skpl> for some reason synaptic will not install mzilla-mplayer, due to dependency issues
[08:50] <CONDE> did somebody lnow to install macromedia player 8???
[08:50] <Warbo> skpl: Are you on 32bit x86?
[08:51] <skpl> Warbo: 64 bit
[08:51] <skpl> amd 64
[08:51] <skpl> thogh i think i have the 32 bit version of ubuntu installed
[08:51] <Warbo> skpl: Hmm, maybe MPlayer's reliance on 32bit x86 codecs is the problem
[08:51] <Warbo> oh, 32bit install should not cause problems then
[08:51] <infbliss> conde:run the install-flash-player binary
[08:52] <infbliss> conde: have you downloaded the flash player
[08:52] <Warbo> I prefer to get Debian packages of flashplayer like from debian-multimedia.org, since Flash is binary only anyway there is not any more cause for incompatibility concerns than using the Adobe installer
[08:53] <tuv> what happened to gdesklets website?
[08:53] <CTU24> Does apache support cascading style sheets (CSS)?
[08:53] <aMMgYrP> gotta question, what is the easiest way to get WPA suplicant to work with breezy?
[08:54] <Mercutio78> With Rhythym box (which i am using in Ubuntu ;-)), i have to wait aaaaages each time i start it whilst it re-finds my extensive mp3 library.. why does it not store this info and only look for new ones?
[08:54] <Mercutio78> am i doing something wrong?
[08:54] <catalan> someone who speaks spanish?
[08:54] <fdoving> !es > catalan
[08:54] <Jowi> !es
[08:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:54] <tuv> Mercutio78, use amarok
[08:54] <catalan> thanks
[08:54] <Warbo> use Listen :)
[08:54] <troughton> i have my network now showing using samba but i cant access it can anyone help
[08:54] <Warbo> by the way:
[08:54] <Warbo> !best
[08:54] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:54] <catalan> #ubuntu-es
[08:55] <green_earz> CTU24: its the web brower that supports css,
[08:55] <Mercutio78> okay.. so wrt RhythymBox "thats just the way it is"?
[08:55] <tyuio> Mercutio78: you want it to watch for new files?
[08:56] <Warbo> Mercutio78: I would guess Rhythmbox would show the tracks it already knows, then refresh them in the background. That's what Amaork does
[08:56] <tyuio> was just about to say that
[08:56] <silox> hi all, i have a problem with my laptop, i have a monitor connected to it so i am not using the LCD screen on the laptop. The problem is that i cant see the video image when i play videos.. Any ideas?
[08:56] <tyuio> i don't think it does
[08:56] <Mercutio78> rhythmbox is starting by assuming i have non! which is odd
[08:56] <CTU24> green_earz:  oh ok.. I mistakingly thought maybe it was up to apache server as well.  I'm coming from a Windoze/IIS world ...  Where do I put my HTML/PHP/CSS files for each inidivdual website so that apache can serve them up?
[08:57] <tuv> hey.. any idea how listen compares to amarok? i'd prefer a gtk app. but suspect there is one as sophisticated as amarok
[08:57] <Mercutio78> think i will give amarok a try.. but also double check all the settings in rhythmbox
[08:57] <Jowi> Mercutio78: it is odd. not normal behaviour. have a look in the edit preferences library tab
[08:57] <Jowi> Mercutio78: see if "watch my library..." is ticked. if it is, untick it
[08:57] <tyuio> amarok is actually very similar to rhythembox
[08:58] <Warbo> tuv: Listen has a few quirks (web browser only has white BG, so I needed to edit a Python file, playlist system is useless unless you are online for last.fm, etc.)
[08:58] <Mercutio78> Jowi, it is, will untick it.
[08:58] <tuv> tyuio, no way.. amarok is ages ahead of rhythmbox
[08:58] <CTU24> I'm using ubuntu 6.06.1 with Apache2,  Where do I put my HTML/PHP/CSS files for each inidivdual website so that apachecan serve them up?
[08:58] <Asymmetry> What package is the 'screen' utility in?
[08:58] <Asymmetry> CTU24, /var/www
[08:59] <KenSentMe> Is there a mplayer package that displays video in firefox
[08:59] <Warbo> Also, Listen could REALLY do with some keyboard shortcuts (I am forever pressing super-B with Amaork to switch track)
[08:59] <Geoffrey3> anyway, as I was saying during lag death, I could connect to the router once, then a few days ago I had to re-format the partition and reinstall Ubuntu, and I haven't been able to get the wireless connection established since then, so I think something either isn't installed or isn't configured correctly
[08:59] <CTU24> assymetry:  oh ok... I create a separate directory for each website right?  or, is there another way to organize them?
[08:59] <KenSentMe> I mean, in the firefox window
[08:59] <robbbb> hey guys, i've got a question - how do i write a script to start my WM? i've made one but it doesn't seem to work. it only runs the first line
[08:59] <green_earz> CTU24: check out the link it should get you started with apache > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/412
[09:00] <Asymmetry> What package is the 'screen' utility in?
[09:00] <Warbo> !info mozilla-mplayer
[09:00] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[09:00] <tyuio> tuv: you mean the built in browser and lyrics?
[09:00] <lupine_85> !screen
[09:00] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[09:00] <fdoving> Asymmetry: the 'screen' package.
[09:00] <silox> !ask i cant see video clips in any video player it only shows a blue screen and plays the audio
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask i cant see video clips in any video player it only shows a blue screen and plays the audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <lupine_85> !info screen dapper
[09:00] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB
[09:00] <CTU24> green_earz:  EXCELLENT!  thank you!
[09:00] <Asymmetry> What the hell... I just entered that. And it said it didn't exist.
[09:00] <green_earz> np
[09:00] <Warbo> !universe
[09:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:01] <tuv> tyuio, no.. the collection and playlist management and display
[09:01] <Jowi> robbbb: in .xsession you put in all the commands you wish to run before the wm starts. all commands should end with & (for example: terminal &). last line should be "exec mywm"
[09:01] <robbbb> so i put all the commands i want to run FIRST?
[09:02] <Jowi> robbbb: yes. the wm is the last to be executed.
[09:02] <morrye> hi is it possible to unblock people in GAIM? (using MSN)
[09:02] <robbbb> cool. i'll give that a whirl
[09:02] <darkhaze> hey
[09:02] <Jowi> robbbb: don't forget the "&" at the end of the command(s)
[09:02] <stojance> How to compile, link and assemble C++ .cpp and .h files in gcc?
[09:02] <darkhaze> whats a good irc client for ubuntu?
[09:02] <darkhaze> :/
[09:02] <stojance> XCHAT
[09:02] <BazziR> darkhaze: I'm currently writing one ;)
[09:02] <darkhaze> =O
[09:03] <darkhaze> yaya nice but it's still under construction :~ i'll be glad to be able to test when done :] 
[09:03] <stojance> Can someone help?
[09:03] <tyuio> tuv: maybe i don't use playlists enough, i deleted the 'favourites' type playlists in rhythembox. amaroK does have nice eye candy though
[09:03] <darkhaze> stojan. xchat gnome or xchat only?
[09:03] <BazziR> darkhaze: will be in edgy+2 hopefully :)
[09:03] <darkhaze> i'm just a newbie on linux and computer programming :/
[09:03] <Warbo> Ouch, I'd better go now since my hands hurt from losing an arm wrestle with a girl
[09:04] <foo> vncviewer -compresslevel 0 -quality 0 172.16.1.253 - why does the  quality look the same if I leave out these options?
[09:04] <darkhaze> but i decided to go open source whatever it happens
[09:04] <tuv> tyuio, i prefer gtk looks over qt/kde ones, though i failed at finding a decent gtk amarok-replacement. i'll give listen a try
[09:04] <BazziR> darkhaze: xchat-gnome is great if you want something simple and working, xchat itself is a bit more powerful but more complex
[09:04] <darkhaze> hrm
[09:04] <darkhaze> i'll try the xchat one
[09:04] <darkhaze> hard or not i'll have to learn it one day (:
[09:05] <GhostFreeman> real men use irssi
[09:05] <darkhaze> whats that ghost?
[09:05] <darkhaze> a script?
[09:06] <GhostFreeman> an IRC client
[09:06] <darkhaze> is it good?
[09:06] <Pekay> is there a date for the Ubuntu 6.10 release or RC?
[09:06] <fdoving> darkhaze: it's good if you like console based applications.
[09:06] <BazziR> !edgy
[09:06] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:06] <GhostFreeman> !schedule
[09:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:06] <tyuio> tuv: first time i've heard of it, just looking at the page now - perhaps i will try it too. I also prefer gtk look and feel :P
[09:07] <BazziR> GhostFreeman: *5*
[09:07] <GhostFreeman> what
[09:07] <BazziR> high five that should be
[09:07] <GhostFreeman> wouldn't just /me high fives _name work?
[09:07] <BazziR> it would :)
[09:09] <mluser-laptop> how do I install upgrades with aptitude that have been 'kept back' ?
[09:10] <darkhaze> sorry for going afk ._.
[09:10] <darkhaze> neways, back to the questions >.<
[09:10] <darkhaze> so considering im a newbie
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> mluser-laptop: Use dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade.
[09:10] <darkhaze> what would u recommend me as
[09:10] <darkhaze> irc client?
[09:10] <mluser-laptop> tonyyarusso: thank you
[09:11] <darkhaze> im using the x-chat now (:
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> darkhaze: Well, I personally use irssi, which is a console client.  If I use graphical it's xchat, but _not_ the new xchat-gnome.  Gaim is great for other protocols, but imo is awful for irc.
[09:12] <tuv> anyone knows what happened to gdesklets website?
[09:12] <darkhaze> hrm
[09:12] <ulfar> Runlevel 2 is the default runlevel, right? How do i add or remove services from the default runlevel?
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> tuv: I think it just moved.
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> !gdesklets
[09:12] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[09:12] <darkhaze> so i'm gonna stay on x-chat then when i get used to linux maybe i'll try console-based clients :] 
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> darkhaze: Good plan.
[09:13] <tuv> tonyyarusso, i can't find neither at gdesklets.gnome.org nor at gdesklets.org
[09:13] <ulfar> !runlevel
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <darkhaze> where are u guys from?
[09:14] <rollerover> can anyonr recommend how to set ubuntu to recognize mu usb wireless, works well with windows. im using a wireless router on another windows machine
[09:14] <octan> hi all
[09:15] <octan> i dont need lvm when i dont raid ? correct?
[09:15] <SAM_theman> why isn't my flash movies playing ???
[09:15] <SAM_theman> but flash is installed
[09:15] <darkhaze> brb gotta go on npdarkhaze
[09:15] <npdarkhaze> here :] 
[09:15] <siriusnova> hey any Ubuntu devs here?
[09:15] <octan>  want to get rid of stuff i dont need on boot up and i think lvm is one of them.. am i guessing correct ?
[09:15] <Jowi> ulfar: there are different ways. one is to remove the execute bit from the file. "chmod a-x /etc/init.d/name". you can also rename the startscript to not start like this "mv /etc/rc2.d/S20ssh /etc/rc2.d/K20ssh" or just remove it. you can also use the "update-rc.d" command.
[09:15] <psyber> can anyone in here give me a hand with some newbie linux questions?
[09:15] <cM0ss> how do I locate a video card's bus identifier?
[09:16] <ompaul> !ask
[09:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:16] <GhostFreeman> !unix
[09:16] <ompaul> cM0ss, lshw
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <cM0ss> thanks ompaul
[09:16] <psyber> lol so I am trying to figure out how to install thunderbird without using synaptic
[09:16] <octan> anyone?
[09:17] <ompaul> psyber, in this channel there is one way - synaptic
[09:17] <Jowi> ulfar: I prefer to rename the file in /etc/rc2.d. That way I have an easy way of controlling different runlevels.
[09:17] <ompaul> psyber, anything else is likely to bite you
[09:17] <eamo> how to recover files on harddrive, installed as slave and mounted, if only empty lost+found folder appears?
[09:17] <ricky> can someone tell me how make a email @ubuntu.org?
[09:17] <psyber> what I want to know is where should I install applications?  usr/share or what?
[09:17] <ompaul> ricky i told you hours ago
[09:17] <darkhaze> hey psyber
[09:17] <darkhaze> try "sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird"
[09:18] <stojance> I LOVE YOU PEOPLE
[09:18] <octan> can anyone tell me
[09:18] <octan> do i need lvm ?
[09:18] <ricky> yes but i don't know how do a ubuntu member
[09:18] <octan> im booting it up do not know what it is
[09:18] <DoubleT> i have another problem
[09:18] <ompaul> ricky, first off we don't have the .org we have .com and second off: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[09:18] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[09:18] <DoubleT> i installed apache2 php5 mysql
[09:19] <darkhaze> psyber: did it work?
[09:19] <DoubleT> and phpmyadmin
[09:19] <octan> :(
[09:19] <psyber> 1 sec dark
[09:19] <darkhaze> k
[09:19] <marcin_ant> I use gnome desktop but I'm also running few apps written with qt
[09:19] <ompaul> octan, just let it go by default
[09:19] <marcin_ant> such as amsn, and I would like to adjust fonts used by there applicaitons
[09:19] <DoubleT> but when i try to open phpmyadmin in firefox, it wants to download the file instead of opening
[09:19] <Inc> whats ubuntu built off of?
[09:19] <DoubleT> anyone can help me?
[09:19] <ricky> and them what i have to do?
[09:19] <octan> ompaul, no i want to get rid of services i dont need..
[09:19] <psyber> yeah it worked
[09:19] <marcin_ant> could someone suggest me how could I configure fonts and themes used by qt apps in gnome?
[09:19] <Jowi> marcin_ant: use "qtconfig"
[09:20] <darkhaze> (:
[09:20] <octan> means shorter bootup
[09:20] <octan> and faster pc
[09:20] <darkhaze> well, that's why i'm loving ubuntu lol. even a newbie can help someone when it's up to documentation :D
[09:20] <cM0ss> ompaul: does  bus info: pci@01:00.0  =  PCI:1:0:0 ?? I am trying to configure Xserver for Radeon card...
[09:20] <ompaul> ricky, it says what to do - you have not read it - it gets awarded to you if become a member
[09:20] <Inc> anyone have an answer to my question?
[09:21] <ompaul> Inc, debian
[09:21] <Jowi> Inc: Debian
[09:21] <DoubleT> can anyone help me to get php working on apache ?
[09:21] <Inc> ah good just checking the iq of the channel ;)
[09:21] <ompaul> octan, seriously install a package called "bum" and use it to limit what starts
[09:21] <mishkin> hello
[09:22] <mishkin> can someone help me ??? about knoda
[09:22] <octan> ompaul, whats bum?
[09:22] <mishkin> hume
[09:22] <Jowi> DoubleT: there is a good wiki here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:22] <darkhaze> OMGGG. ><
[09:22] <darkhaze> okies
[09:22] <ompaul> octan, a program  -  boot up manager
[09:22] <darkhaze> i'll be back later
[09:22] <darkhaze> i have to vote for brazil's next president
[09:22] <darkhaze> and i'm late
[09:22] <cM0ss> anyone:  does  bus info: pci@01:00.0  =  PCI:1:0:0 ?? I am trying to configure Xserver for Radeon card...
[09:22] <mishkin> can someone help me ??? about knoda
[09:22] <mishkin> can someone help me ??? about knoda
[09:23] <ompaul> !repeat
[09:23] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:23] <mishkin> i have ubuntu dapper drake
[09:23] <psyber> so, back to the more general question... when I install an application (i.e. using config make and make install) where will the application files be located?
[09:23] <ompaul> mishkin, join #kubuntu it is a kde based program
[09:23] <mishkin> ok
[09:24] <krazykit> psyber: /usr/local/
[09:24] <Jowi> psyber: probably in /usr somewhere.
[09:24] <ompaul> psyber, depends on the contents of the makefile
[09:24] <Jowi> psyber: you set the patch with ./configure
[09:24] <Jowi> psyber: an alternative way of installing is to use checkinstall
[09:24] <bh> Hello, is etch similar to Debian unstable or should I just use dapper for now ?
[09:24] <cM0ss>  does  bus info: pci@01:00.0  =  PCI:1:0:0 ?? I am trying to configure Xserver for Radeon card...
[09:24] <ompaul> psyber, we have about 20k packages so I would be surprised if what you want or something like it was not in ubuntu already
[09:25] <DoubleT> Jowi: I tried that, but when i run the command:
[09:25] <DoubleT> sudoa2enmodphp5
[09:25] <DoubleT> it tells me it does not exists ?
[09:25] <tuv> where can i get additional desklets (for gdesklets) from?
[09:25] <ompaul> cM0ss, do this >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << that will set up most video cards
[09:25] <psyber> well I am trying to learn how to work with linux, not just ubuntu
[09:25] <ompaul> psyber, then go to #linuxhelp
[09:25] <cM0ss> ompaul: that is what I am running
[09:25] <psyber> ahh good call.... thx
[09:26] <ompaul> cM0ss, it detects that
[09:26] <cM0ss> ompaul: it is asking for card bus identifier
[09:26] <psyber> silly me
[09:26] <psyber> hehe thanks for the help
[09:26] <eamo> ompaul: any suggestions on harddrive file recovery software?  drive mounted as slave OK
[09:26] <octan> ompaul, right thxz.. thats a nice app ;D
[09:26] <ricky> some body know how use javascript in links
[09:28] <exmethix> http://rafb.net/paste/results/2bs68P91.html <--- could somebody help me?
[09:28] <infinito> does anyone know why there's no MTA installed by default in dapper??
[09:28] <drunk_hobo> hod do i install the flash pluging in firefox?
[09:29] <ricky> someone know how use javascript in links
[09:29] <kupesoft> how do I make an image lighter using GIMP?
[09:29] <ompaul> eamo, check out a tool called "the coroners tool kit"
[09:29] <ompaul> cM0ss, accept it
[09:29] <mlopes> hi! what's the latest tutorial for installing AIGLX on Ubuntu Dapper?
[09:29] <cM0ss> ompaul: much thanks
[09:29] <drunk_hobo> how do i install the flash pluging in firefox?
[09:29] <mlopes> most of them seem to be broken..
[09:29] <infinito> exmethix: maybe you should run it as root
[09:29] <ompaul> infinito, that is the way the distro goes, great aunt tilly won't need one, if you do sudo apt-get install postfix or whatever
[09:29] <mook> there is a WMV9 file on a streaming server using the MMS protocol I'm having trouble playing.
[09:30] <ricky> drunk_hobo try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:30] <eamo> ompaul: thanks - will try!
[09:30] <mook> i have w3codecs installed, but VLC and Totem are both having troubles ( they skip a lot)
[09:30] <drunk_hobo> ricky: i did
[09:30] <ompaul> exmethix, sudo sh foo
[09:30] <ompaul> mook, do the dma thing
[09:30] <ricky> and doesn't work?
[09:30] <ompaul> !dma > mook
[09:30] <infinito> ompaul: and how does it send the local email?
[09:31] <ricky> drunk_hobo doesn't work?
[09:31] <mook> ompaul: What does DMA have to to with streaming wMV9 video?
[09:31] <drunk_hobo> ricky, nope it cant find the package
[09:31] <ompaul> mook, I read  i have w3codecs installed, but VLC and Totem are both having troubles ( they skip a lot)
[09:31] <exmethix> http://rafb.net/paste/results/IkaF0s68.html
[09:31] <exmethix> the same
[09:31] <Archville> Hi all.
[09:31] <ricky> you have to install manualy
[09:31] <Jowi> DoubleT: e2enmod is a part of apache2-common. if you have that package installed it should work.
[09:32] <Doc__> what drivers or plug-ins do i need for .rpm
[09:32] <thanatonaute> hi. I just installed Ubuntu, and the kernel version is: Linux version 2.6.15-27-386
[09:32] <ricky> and will work
[09:32] <ompaul> !ati > exmethix
[09:32] <mook> ompaul: The video is streaming from an Internet server via the MMS protocol though, not locally on the HDDs
[09:32] <ompaul> exmethix, check the message from ubotu the channel bot useful urls there
[09:32] <thanatonaute> Is there a newer kernel in the repository?
[09:32] <drunk_hobo> ricky and how do i do that
[09:32] <exmethix> !ati
[09:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:32] <dmglouis> i just installed apache and I can't put any files in var/www/. Can anyone tell me how?
[09:32] <ompaul> mook, your second comment made that clear, I was explaining why I said what I said
[09:32] <Jowi> dmglouis: use "sudo"
[09:32] <ricky> down load the package
[09:32] <mook> ah
[09:33] <ricky> \
[09:33] <Doc__> what drivers or plug-ins do i need for .rpm
[09:33] <dmglouis> Jowi: I dont use terminal, i dont know how to move files using cmd line
[09:33] <siriusnova> btw PSA
[09:33] <siriusnova> DONT use the X.org ati radeon driver if your using an ati radeon card in a laptop
[09:33] <siriusnova> it causes complete lockups
[09:34] <Jowi> dmglouis: you better learn. :) the terminal is a big part of linux.
[09:34] <Jowi> !common
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about common - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <siriusnova> there is a bug and a patch has been issues but no idea when it will actually hit the repos
[09:34] <Doc__> what drivers or plug-ins do i need for .rpm
[09:34] <Jowi> !commands
[09:34] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:34] <Archville> Got a question... I would like to burn the InstallCD one so i can install it here, but i only have DVDs at the moment.  Is it possible to burn it and boot it from a DVD instead of a CD or i should wait to buy a CD ?
[09:34] <ompaul> Doc__, you got the wrong program there - what do yuou want to install
[09:34] <ompaul> Doc__, there is .rpm and .deb we are in the .deb world but you need one for Ubuntu
[09:35] <livingdaylight> to copy a dvd (movie) do you copy as iso or select dvd project?
[09:35] <ompaul> Doc__, your version of Ubuntu
[09:35] <Doc__> 6.06
[09:35] <ompaul> Doc__, what program are you looking to install?
[09:35] <Jowi> dmglouis: mv = move. cp = copy. ls = list/dir. have a look at that BasicCommands page ubotu gave.
[09:35] <Archville> You can still use .rpm if you "alienize" them.
[09:35] <Doc__> sun java download manger
[09:35] <ompaul> !alien
[09:35] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[09:36] <skpl> can someone tell me how to find out what version architecture of ubuntu i have installed?
[09:36] <ompaul> skpl, what kind of box is it?
[09:36] <skpl> i am using an amd64 computer but i dunno if i have the 64 bit version of ubuntu installed
[09:36] <Jowi> skpl: uname -a will give you plenty
[09:36] <internetarchitec> my ubuntu keeps freezing at the login screen does anyone know a way to fix that?
[09:37] <LeeJunFan> odd, there's no pine in repositories, but there's packages for pine.
[09:37] <livingdaylight> to copy a dvd (movie) do you copy as iso or select dvd project?
[09:37] <DoubleT> i tried to follow the howto on this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:37] <DoubleT> but I get an error, when i try to run the following command: udoa2enmodphp5
[09:37] <DoubleT> the error is: This module does not exist!
[09:37] <anon32> gah, updater keeps timing out (dial-up...)
[09:37] <DoubleT> can anyone help me out ?
[09:37] <dmglouis> Jowi: how do i do it?
[09:37] <Doc__> i just wanna upgrade my version of sun java but i dont know how in synaptic
[09:38] <anon32> Doc__: add the "restricted" repositories
[09:38] <PFA> on grub's menu.lst, does the "other operating systems" divider count as an entry?
[09:38] <anon32> help! where's the config for updater?
[09:38] <Doc__> ok
[09:39] <Doc__> how do i add it
[09:39] <internetarchitec> anyone know why my login screen keeps freezing?
[09:39] <dmglouis> Jowi: sorry about that, the chat window froze
[09:39] <anon32> how do I unmark only the upgradable packages in Synaptic?
[09:39] <dmglouis> mine too
[09:39] <livingdaylight> to copy a dvd (movie) do you copy as iso or select dvd project?
[09:40] <dmglouis> Jowi: could you tell me what to do again?
[09:40] <Jowi> dmglouis: sure. what do you want to do exactly?
[09:40] <dmglouis> Jowi: I want to move a folder into var/www/ from my home folder
[09:40] <e2equiel> hello people!
[09:40] <PFA> on grub's menu.lst, does the "other operating systems" divider count as an entry?
[09:40] <Skylabs> Anyone can help me with USB cable modem connection with Ubuntu please?
[09:40] <Jowi> dmglouis: move or copy?
[09:41] <mon^rch> PFA, only if it's un-commented
[09:41] <Doc__> how do i add the restricted repositories
[09:41] <Railer> Hey, can anyone suggest which mail server is the best for a ubunto web server running webmin? I'm currently running qmail with vpopmail on my fedoria, but I though I would ask for other opinions?
[09:41] <dmglouis> Jowi: either way
[09:41] <e2equiel> this is my firt time in this chat
[09:41] <dmglouis> Jowi: i have a copy on another comp
[09:41] <der0b> Hey folks, I'm wondering if there's a way to record all of the prompts displayed to a user and his answers in a gnome-terminal session.  I'm trying to document a how-to and this would make it a lot easier
[09:41] <Jowi> dmglouis: to move a folder "sudo mv myfolder /var/www" to copy a folder with all subfolders "sudo cp -r myfolder /var/www"
[09:41] <PFA> mon^rch: thanks
[09:41] <mon^rch> :0
[09:41] <e2equiel> ??
[09:42] <Jowi> ubotu, tell dmglouis about commands
[09:42] <anon32> just a question (no commenting on restricted formats please) what's the linux equivalent of DVD Decrypter?
[09:42] <e2equiel> anyone who talk in spanish?
[09:42] <Doc__> how do i update my sun java
[09:42] <ryanakca> is there an application for viewing ,VSD files? (Visio Version 5 Drawing)?
[09:42] <anon32> der0b: profile -> logging
[09:42] <Skylabs> hi, i need to add usbnet to /etc/modules and i'm new in linux world ...what should exactly do or where i must go please ?
[09:43] <der0b> ack..  I prolly should have checked there huh..  thanks anon32
[09:43] <e2equiel> anyone who talk in spanish?
[09:43] <Jowi> !es
[09:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:43] <e2equiel> ok tanks
[09:44] <anon32> Doc__: Sun Microsystem's website has instructions
[09:44] <dmglouis> Jowi: thanks a lot, it worked beatifully
[09:44] <Railer> Hey, can anyone suggest which mail server is the best for a ubunto web server running webmin? I'm currently running qmail with vpopmail on my fedoria, but I though I would ask for other opinions?
[09:44] <Jimmey> How can I try another window manager?
[09:44] <dmglouis> *beautifully
[09:44] <scud> Oct  1 11:26:22 linuxbox kernel: hdd: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }     is this error something i should be really concerned about or is it just that my ata pci card is not supported well?
[09:44] <Jowi> dmglouis: no probs.
[09:45] <anon32> What's the Ubuntu/Linux equivalent to DVD Decrypter? Is it DeCSS, or is there something more usable available?
[09:45] <dfgas> is there a way to disable the power button in linux on the computer. my son hits the button and brings up the quit screen in ubuntu
[09:45] <Jimmey> anon32, try searching for "DVD Decrypter" in Synaptic Package Manager, or "apt-cache search dvd decrypt" in a terminal
[09:46] <anon32> Jimmey: apt-get install "insert window manager"
[09:46] <Jimmey> anon32, lawl, look what I just wrote before that :'-(
[09:46] <Jimmey> Thanks :)
[09:46] <Jowi> anon32: dvdrip is ok.
[09:47] <anon32> Jimmey: um, DVD Decrypter is a Windows program
[09:47] <anon32> I'm looking for an equivalent
[09:47] <nex_> hey everyone
[09:47] <Spy> Anyone can help me with USB cable modem connection with Ubuntu please?
[09:47] <nex_> i finally got ubuntu working
[09:47] <Jan-pp> hi, is there a way to change the system language? I installed my ubuntu in german and now I decided to go for the original as I think I understand that better than the german translation
[09:48] <wood> Hi !
[09:48] <anon32> ubuntu sure is wonderful isn't it?
[09:48] <mon^rch> happy hacking!!!
[09:49] <anon32> Spy: does Ubuntu detect your modem? or is it a winmodem?
[09:49] <anon32> oh wait, you said cable modem
[09:49] <Spy> anon32 as you see isn't winmodem ;p
[09:49] <anon32> Jan-pp: System -> Administration -> Language Support
[09:50] <Spy> anon32 When i used Live CD USB connection was ok but not after installation
[09:50] <Jan-pp> anon32: sry, i forgot to mention that I do not have any GUI installe
[09:50] <Jowi> Jan-pp: I think you just need to install lanuage-pack-en and language-support-en
[09:50] <Jan-pp> it is a server
[09:50] <axee> hi; i have an error starting ubuntu. it says that my session only lasted 10 seconds, and logged me out. I have terminal, but i dont know how to fix it. my disks aernt full. please help :(
[09:50] <ryanakca> is there an application for viewing .VSD files? (Visio Version 5 Drawing)?
[09:51] <matahari> hi
[09:51] <wood> I have a freshly new Ubuntu installed with Apache2 - PHP - Webmin and everything is goes fine exept one thing... I want to have a htaccess with passwd on a specific folder.. the htaccess file is in the folder and the passwd too but doesnt seems that apache2 has activate this ... any of you know what to do ?
[09:51] <[Yatta] > anyoen here mrxvt ???
[09:51] <matahari> how can i authenticate to a wlan using xubuntu?
[09:51] <anon32> please forgive my unresponsiveness
[09:51] <Jan-pp> jowi: language-pack already installed
[09:51] <Jan-pp> i just need to change the setting
[09:51] <Jowi> Jan-pp: "update-language"
[09:51] <skpl> can someone tell me what plugins i need to play mp3 files in rhythymbox?
[09:51] <anon32> Jan-pp: err...
[09:52] <Jowi> maybe
[09:52] <Jowi> not sure
[09:52] <Jan-pp> update-language not found
[09:52] <anon32> Jowi: there's a setting that has to be changed though
[09:52] <der0b> anon32: I'm not seeing a logging section in gnome-terminal
[09:53] <anon32> !restricted -> skpl
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted - - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <skpl> can someone tell me what plugins i need to play mp3 files in rhythymbox?
[09:53] <Jowi> !mp3
[09:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <rayston> how do I figure out what is wrong with my HD that suddenly is unavailable?
[09:53] <rayston> what tools are available to me?
[09:53] <Rickman> I'm having problems with Samba.  I used sudo smbpasswd -a <username> and it created the username and password.  I also edited the smb.conf to change the name of the workgroup.  I can now see the computer in my workgroup from a windoze client, but when I click on it, it's says it's unaccessabile.  Could this be because I don't have directorys/permissions set up for the new samba user I added?  if so, how do I do that?
[09:53] <anon32> der0b: it was a guess :-\
[09:54] <der0b> k
[09:54] <der0b> Hey folks, I'm wondering if there's a way to record all of the prompts displayed to a user and his answers in a gnome-terminal session.  I'm trying to document a how-to and this would make it a lot easier
[09:54] <sorush20> hi I'm installing ubuntu but there are error, everything installs okay,, I have an ntfs paritition the first one and it has windows xp on it, then the next two are root then home , and the last is the swap, I have set the first partition ntfs as bootable flag..
[09:54] <sorush20> after installtion boot I can not boot to grup .. .
[09:54] <sorush20> grub
[09:54] <kitche> der0b: there is many screen recorders
[09:54] <Jowi> Jan-pp: /etc/environment file should have the language setting
[09:55] <sorush20> are there any programs out there there that give you stats about your hardware , like cpu speed and bus speed and etc?
[09:55] <jelly-home> !hardware
[09:55] <anon32> I notice that there's a noticable lag when moving windows. This makes me wonder if my ATI RADEON x300 is supported?
[09:55] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:55] <dankh> is there somebody already using rhythmbox 0.9.6 ?
[09:55] <Rickman> Can anyone help me to configure samba on my new ubuntu install
[09:55] <jelly-home> sorush20: there are a lot of packages for that.  I personally use lshw.
[09:55] <Jan-pp> jowi: thx. looks good, rebooting
[09:56] <mlopes> hi. what's the latest tutorial for getting aiglx to work on ubuntu dapper?
[09:56] <anon32> !mplayer
[09:56] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[09:56] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[09:56] <sorush20> jelly-home: can you tell me if you can see your motherboards fsb?
[09:56] <kitche> mlopes: well you need xorg 7.1 to use aiglx unless you feel like compiling it
[09:57] <mlopes> and xorg is only included on edgy?
[09:57] <mlopes> 7.1
[09:57] <mlopes> because I've seen a lot of tutorials from July and August and none seem to work now
[09:57] <jelly-home> sorush20: Hm, I see something like "clock: 400MHz" but under "*-cpu", let me check another machine.
[09:58] <anon32> !vlc
[09:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:58] <Jowi> Jan-pp: hehe, found an easier way. typical. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"
[09:58] <kitche> mlopes: yeah xorg 7.1 is only on edgy that I know of
[09:58] <ugarit> how does one enable opengl for an intel 915 gm video apater (laptop) or how do I check that it's actually enabled?
[09:59] <mlopes> hmm ok
[09:59] <dankh> !codecs
[09:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:59] <suprchris> how do I restart x into a cmd line?  dapper just keeps sending it to the gdm login screen?
[09:59] <mlopes> when is edgy expected to be released?
[09:59] <jelly-home> sorush20: the amd/athlon-xp-2500 machine says "clock: 166MHz", does this make any sense to you?
[09:59] <mlopes> I don't feel like fscking my laptop just for eye candy :-P
[09:59] <mlopes> so I'll wait for the final release
[10:00] <procrastinator> !schedule
[10:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:00] <anon32> how do I shut down the X Window System?
[10:00] <jelly-home> sorush20: the intel machine says 400MHz which looks like its fsb freq.
[10:00] <higen> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop in terminal ?
[10:00] <anon32> jelly-home, well, that could be your FSB (jk)
[10:01] <diminthedam> heya all. could someone help me with getting my sound to work in vmware, please?
[10:01] <drunk_hobo> im trying to install flash on firefox and it says: Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape, what should i type there
[10:01] <Jowi> ugarit: I *think* you should install xserver-xorg-driver-i810 and 915resolution.
[10:01] <sktfeelssleepy> anyone having trouble with the lastfm player and alsa?
[10:02] <Jan-pp> jowi: thx, just installed it. its  great - i can set the messages separately
[10:02] <jelly-home> anon32: well it is an older motherboard (nForce2).
[10:02] <jlouis_> I installed ubuntu via PXE bootloading. When it came to installing xorg it tried to switch into xorg and failed. So I had to reboot. I am pretty sure it missed the right kernel modules, so now I have a half ubuntu installation
[10:02] <Jowi> ugarit: "glxinfo | grep direct" to see if direct rendering is enabled
[10:02] <drunk_hobo> im trying to install flash on firefox and it says: Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape, what should i type there
[10:03] <jlouis_> I am trying to mend it, so I've set keymap, timezone, logins and am running dpkg-reconfigure -a
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone have what would be considered the best xgl/compiz guide
[10:03] <jlouis_> anything I might have missed?
[10:03] <RankorFodder> drunk_hobo: i've been having moz flash problems myself, and so far the workaround i'm using is simply installing the flash plugin from within mozilla.
[10:03] <Jowi> jlouis_: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select vesa driver (or the correct driver for your card)
[10:04] <axee> whats the linux command to see all my dvd/cd/hard drives via terminal
[10:04] <RankorFodder> drunk: but i'm pretty sure that's an older version of flash
[10:04] <axee> i have had a crash, and wantt o copy stuff to my SD card, but dont know what its called
[10:04] <drunk_hobo> rankorfodder: you mean like pasting the instalation files in the dir and running it frpom there?
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> RankorFodder, drunk_hobo, have you guys tried this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:04] <anon32> axee: ls /dev/*
[10:04] <anon32> or mount -l
[10:05] <jlouis_> Jowi: I am working on it. Though it is barfing because of a missing synaptics driver (or if I remove that manually, a /dev/input/mice). I _certainly_ know I am missing some kernel modules, so they go in next ;)
[10:05] <diminthedam> my x31 esd sound drivers, conflict with vmware, and i cannot get any sound in vmware. Are there any other sound drivers that could work?
[10:05] <jlouis_> ie, I am on a 2.6.17 with 2.6.15-something the only installed modules. Thats bad, hehe ;)
[10:05] <Jowi> jlouis_: did you compile your own kernel?
[10:05] <Paddy_EIRE> RankorFodder, drunk_hobo, just try and avoid using "easyubuntu" or "automatix"
[10:05] <jlouis_> Jowi: no
[10:05] <drunk_hobo> ok
[10:06] <Doc__> how do i get more fonts
[10:06] <Jan-pp> what locale version should I use? UTF or ISO?
[10:06] <ompaul> !fonts
[10:06] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[10:06] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[10:06] <jlouis_> Jowi: I am on a freshly installed system. I believe that kernel image come from some ubuntu archive.
[10:06] <main2> any ideas how it can be that 'DRKonqi' crashes all the time when using remote desktop?
[10:06] <anon32> does xchat have any kind of transparency effects?
[10:06] <main2> (or vncviewer)
[10:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Doc__:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper <-- this will get you loads of fonts
[10:07] <main2> anon32: yes it does #xchat
[10:07] <jlouis_> I'll dig further
[10:07] <axee> anon32, when trying to "mount" it i get errors like cant find "ssd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" any idea why?
[10:07] <stu__> how do I go about installing xgl or aiglx or whatever its called on dapper ??
[10:07] <jlouis_> missing kernel modules is bad bad
[10:07] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, we have that on the wiki
[10:07] <darkhaze> yay back \o/
[10:07] <AWOSDev> I need help with fonts.  They don't show up in any application even after restarting them.  I read the FontInstallHowto to no avail.
[10:07] <Exclamation> Hi
[10:07] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: oh, I must search for it... it was down today for quite a while
[10:08] <anon32> ugh. these winmodem drivers suck
[10:08] <M0nk3Ee> hi all can anyone give me a few pointers getting me broadcom 4306 wireless card working on dapper.  I have tried loads of different bits from tutorials but am not getting anywhere.  Did have it working in the past but reformatted and now can't remember what i did.  I can get the little blue light come on on the laptop but it is not finding any networks
[10:08] <RankorFodder> hey can anyone recomend to me a good, newb-friendly IDE for cpp?
[10:08] <Exclamation> Im having problems with azureus, it gets stuck at loading images...btw im on amd64
[10:08] <Jowi> jlouis_: well... how about installing the 2.6.15-27 kernel and its restricted modules?
[10:08] <RankorFodder> or perhaps a newer, sexyer language to learn? :-D
[10:08] <anon32> RankorFodder, emacs
[10:08] <jlouis_> Jowi: Thats another solution
[10:08] <drunk_hobo> "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" doesnt work for me
[10:08] <jlouis_> Jowi: probably one I take if I can come aronud to it ;)
[10:09] <AWOSDev> RankorFodder, I like Kdevelop.
[10:09] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: for the amount of trouble getting that winmodem to work it just aint worth it, get a new one winmodems are just cheap little things anyway
[10:09] <jlouis_> Jowi: is .15-27 the newest kernel in Dapper? I am coming from a Debain sid install
[10:09] <RankorFodder> AWOSDev: will K apps run well in a gnome environment?
[10:09] <Jowi> jlouis_: the mouse itself is usually these modules: mousedev and psmouse
[10:09] <AWOSDev> RankorFodder, yep
[10:09] <Jowi> jlouis_: modprobe them and try to start X
[10:09] <RankorFodder> hmm.. neat
[10:09] <stu__> should uname -r indicate SMP if I am running a SMP kernel ?
[10:09] <jlouis_> So I don't know friggin anything about current versions ;)
[10:09] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: do you use xgl/compiz
[10:10] <jlouis_> Jowi: check. So noted.
[10:10] <drunk_hobo> im installing flash mnually and it is asking me for theinstallation path of my firefox, can anyone just tell me what to write there, i am new here, and i dont know thelinux sintax
[10:10] <AWOSDev> RankorFodder, just go apt-get (or synaptic) it.
[10:10] <drunk_hobo> pls just tell me
[10:10] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, no it is beta software
[10:10] <ClayG> is there an easy to use webdownloader for the gui, i want to download a small website, mostly documents
[10:10] <anon32> help! how do I throttle synaptic's bandwidth usage?
[10:10] <sktfeelssleepy> but yah is anyone else having problems with their lastfm player?
[10:10] <drunk_hobo> im writing /home/usr/lib/swiftfox, and it says the dir doesnt exist
[10:10] <RankorFodder> AWOSDev: yea, i apt-get everything.. i'm not even sure i have a compiler installed. :-D
[10:10] <drunk_hobo> whats wring with my sintax
[10:10] <ClayG> I know w3m and a few cli apps can do it but i want something my mother can use, something for gnome/kde
[10:10] <ClayG> ahhh, lets be honest, it's for me lol
[10:10] <M0nk3Ee> can anyone tell me what i need to do to check what drivers i currently have loaded, i have got a bit confused after trying so many tutorials to get this wireless card working
[10:11] <jlouis_> drunk_hobo: try to strike out home
[10:11] <AWOSDev> RankorFodder, sudo apt-get install build-essential   <- that'll get you a compiler
[10:11] <Jowi> drunk_hobo: where did you install swiftfox to?
[10:11] <jlouis_> /home/usr/... looks wrong
[10:11] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE, err...
[10:11] <AWOSDev> drunk_hobo, try just /usr/lib/swiftfox
[10:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: nice one, I thought I was behind the visual eyecandy stuff....will we ever see a dapper final release version of it
[10:11] <sorush20> jelly-home: yes thanks
[10:11] <drunk_hobo> i have tried that
[10:11] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: whats up
[10:11] <drunk_hobo> and that is swiftfox path
[10:11] <darkhaze> hey why do i get d/c if i don't use internet for some time?
[10:11] <drunk_hobo> the sile is there
[10:11] <darkhaze> i'm on dapper drake btw.
[10:11] <twinge_> If i install the 6.10 beta now, once the final release is out I'll be able to just run "update" and get all the changes, right?
[10:11] <M0nk3Ee> can anyone see what i am typing?
[10:11] <drunk_hobo> but the flash install keeps telling me that not a dir
[10:12] <stu__> should uname -r indicate SMP if I am running a SMP kernel ?
[10:12] <darkhaze> m0n yeah.
[10:12] <jlouis_> M0nk3Ee: sure
[10:12] <mooney2> M0nk3Ee: lsmod shoudl give you something
[10:12] <drunk_hobo> its says its not a valid installation path
[10:12] <jlouis_> darkhaze: more information is needed to answer your d/c question.
[10:12] <AWOSDev> darkhaze, that's your ISPs problem.  get a better ISP :)
[10:12] <anon32> drunk_hobo: well, write the path of firefox-bin
[10:12] <anon32> it's probably in /usr/bin
[10:12] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE, it's just that I'd still like to know how to throttle synaptic
[10:12] <RankorFodder> can anyone help me with qcad? i can't seem to set the default unit of measure as "Cubit" and i really wanna build a pyramid. :-D
[10:13] <M0nk3Ee> man lsmod
[10:13] <M0nk3Ee> wrong window
[10:13] <mooney2> lol
[10:13] <rizo> hi can some body help with aliased font issue with the opera browser running on ubuntu
[10:13] <mooney2> rizo: sure i run opera and like nice fonts :)
[10:13] <AWOSDev> anon32, uh, actually it needs the plugins directory
[10:13] <anon32> drunk_hobo, does it have a browse button?
[10:13] <drunk_hobo> anon32 how do i do that
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: sure, did you try searching for font in synaptic
[10:13] <drunk_hobo> no it doesnt
[10:13] <AWOSDev> drunk_hobo, for Firefox, it's /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[10:13] <drunk_hobo> it install from terminal
[10:14] <AWOSDev> drunk_hobo, did you try /usr/lib/swiftfox/plugins
[10:14] <AWOSDev> ?
[10:14] <rizo> i was having problem with www.theregister.co.uk
[10:14] <rizo> the fonts on the page apper aliased
[10:14] <darkhaze> well
[10:14] <jlouis_> find / -type d -name '*swiftfox*'
[10:14] <M0nk3Ee> when i run wlassistant it picks up the card and the indicator light on my laptop comes on but it doesn't find any networks
[10:14] <darkhaze> i was on irc chatting
[10:14] <jlouis_> BLAM!
[10:14] <M0nk3Ee> any ideas
[10:14] <Jowi> stu_: I believe so
[10:14] <darkhaze> for like 15mins
[10:14] <rizo> after many font changes it still looks aliaed
[10:14] <M0nk3Ee> broadcom 4306 running on a nx6110 laptop
[10:14] <darkhaze> and away from webbrowsing and etc.
[10:14] <rizo> any i dea how i can fix this?
[10:15] <ompaul> !timetable > Paddy_EIRE
[10:15] <darkhaze> when i tried to connect in a website
[10:15] <drunk_hobo> swiftfox doesnt have a plugins folder
[10:15] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, for that reason I do not think so
[10:15] <darkhaze> it just said i couldnt connect
[10:15] <darkhaze> cos no connection avaliable
[10:15] <mooney2> rizo: what font
[10:15] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE, sorry?
[10:15] <darkhaze> but i was online on irc ._.
[10:15] <mooney2> rizo: presume you have disbaled ant-aliasing in font properties
[10:15] <rizo> i don't know which it is
[10:16] <rizo> all other websites look fine
[10:16] <darkhaze> sorry if i sound newbie, but i'm really newbie >.<
[10:16] <rizo> its only that page
[10:16] <AWOSDev> Anybody know how to install fonts?  I followed the FontInstallHowto but still no fonts :(
[10:16] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: oh, that seems a shame...will there be no stable version avail then
[10:16] <rizo> i thinl it's helvetica
[10:16] <rizo> think*
[10:16] <Julian> heya
[10:16] <darkhaze> AWOS wait a sec.
[10:16] <rizo> can you please chack
[10:16] <rizo> check*
[10:16] <rizo> http://www.theregister.com/
[10:17] <Julian> anyone knows how to install syscp (syscp.org) on ubuntu?
[10:17] <AWOSDev> rizo, I'm sorry if this sounds dumb, but how do I tell whether it's aliased or not?
[10:17] <Julian> or how to request adding to the repositys?
[10:18] <rizo> if it look pixelised
[10:18] <Jowi> AWOSDev: easiest way to install fonts, copy the fonts to your ~/.fonts directory
[10:18] <steveire> can I just delete a symlink or do i unlink it or what?
[10:18] <AWOSDev> jowi, tried that
[10:18] <rizo> i don't have the helvetica font
[10:19] <matt8806suomi> hello, is this working?
[10:19] <AWOSDev> rizo, it looks smooth
[10:19] <steveire> matt8806suomi: hi
[10:19] <AWOSDev> matt8806suomi, yes
[10:19] <matt8806suomi> cool
[10:19] <holycow> steveire, you can delete it, just make sure you know WHAT it will affect
[10:19] <chopchop_> anybody know what all the kept back packages are when i try to apt-get upgrade??
[10:19] <Jowi> AWOSDev: if it is .ttf files it should work fine
[10:19] <holycow> symlinks usually exist for very good reasons
[10:19] <rizo> seems like mine is the only one
[10:19] <AWOSDev> jowi, it is .ttf and it didn't work fine :|
[10:19] <steveire> Yeah, I'm sure it's safe.
[10:19] <matt8806suomi> what is nethack
[10:19] <krazykit> a game.
[10:20] <M0nk3Ee> i have a hard disk where i had the wireless card working on it, is there some configuration files i can copy off that hard disk and on to this install to get my wireless working?
[10:20] <AWOSDev> !nethack
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nethack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <AWOSDev> poor bot :P
[10:20] <Jowi> AWOSDev: they should be copied straight into the dir. they should not be in a subdirectory.
[10:20] <anon32> chopchop: they're packages that you can upgrade but haven't chosen to
[10:20] <chopchop_> matt8806suomi: nethack is an great text-base game
[10:20] <AWOSDev> jowi, for example, /home/awilcox/.fonts/SeriesEm.ttf
[10:20] <rizo> how do i get the the ttf fonts
[10:20] <ericz> !nethack-x11
[10:20] <ubotu> nethack-x11: Text-based/X11 overhead view D&D-style adventure game. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.3-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 1844 kB
[10:20] <rizo> and what is the site using?
[10:20] <rizo> which font?
[10:21] <anon32> !nethack
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nethack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <matt8806suomi> thanks chopchop_
[10:21] <Jowi> AWOSDev: exactly as it should be, yes. try to logout/login
[10:21] <chopchop_> anon32: why doesnt ubuntu upgrade it if it can?
[10:22] <holycow> anyone here have recommendations for an app that will scan cds and sort data about them?  just curious what people use
[10:22] <anon32> chopchop_, what is the exact command you're typing?
[10:23] <chopchop_> anon32: sudo apt-get upgrade, and then i got a punch of kept back packages
[10:23] <AWOSDev> jowi, alright
[10:23] <chopchop_> anon32: about 30 packages
[10:23] <AWOSDev> jowi: okay
[10:24] <Jowi> chopchop_: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will upgrade the kept back packages
[10:24] <anon32> can I run gparted on the hard drive I'm using?
[10:24] <synth7> ubuntu isnt seeing my wireless network and the eth2 (wireless network) never seems to stay 'active'
[10:24] <lunaphyte_> i used to have a dog named chopchop.
[10:24] <siriusnova> anyone here have problems with your system locking up on a laptop that has an ati radeon card and uses the X.org "ati" driver?
[10:24] <anon32> chopchop_: probably because they depend on stuff that needs to be upgraded first
[10:25] <Jowi> anon32: yes, but you will not be able to modify any partition that is mounted
[10:25] <chopchop_> Jowi: aint dist-upgrade will install edgy into my machine which is an unstable one that someone told me it could break my system
[10:25] <kitche> chopchop_: it will only install edgy if you are usign edgy repos
[10:25] <jdrake> I am attempting to use jigdo with xubuntu, but I can't seem to find a mirror with everything on it
[10:25] <axee> anyone know why terminal wont display my usb stick, im searching /media/*
[10:26] <axee> i only see cdrom cdrom0 & windows
[10:26] <chopchop_> axee: you have to mount it yourseft
[10:26] <axee> how would one do that please chopchop_
[10:26] <Jowi> chopchop_: dist-upgrade will only install edgy if you have it in the repositories ("grep edgy /etc/apt/sources.list" to find out)
[10:26] <chopchop_> axee: try mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb -t vfat
[10:26] <holycow> axee, it just means its not mounted
[10:27] <Zolace> Meh!
[10:27] <holycow> chopchop_, nice
[10:27] <matt8806suomi>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:27] <matt8806suomi> __
[10:27] <Zolace> GRRR
[10:27] <kitche> matt8806suomi at least it wasn't your password info :)
[10:27] <chopchop_> holycow: ^^
[10:27] <chopchop_> Jowi: i got nothing
[10:27] <darkhaze> lol
[10:27] <mooney2> can someone recommend a good network diagram package like visio ? i know of dia but would like other suggestions
[10:28] <Jowi> chopchop_: so edgy will not be installed if you dist-upgrades
[10:28] <chopchop_> Jowi: ok, will try dist-upgrade, thanks
[10:28] <matt8806suomi>  hey, how do i set up private chats
[10:28] <holycow> mooney not really a lot out there, google kde network diagramming stuff
[10:28] <ClayG> i need something that will copy pages from a site i know i can do it manually a page at a time
[10:28] <holycow> mooney2, they have one its pretty good forget the name tho
[10:28] <JoshIRL> Oh man
[10:29] <JoshIRL> Anyone wanna help me? Lol
[10:29] <ClayG> but i rather have a program that i can put the site in a box hit a button and it saves it
[10:29] <ClayG> i need to print some stuff out , rather use the laser printer at work then my pos epson that is very slow
[10:29] <Jowi> ClayG: man wget
[10:29] <Squee> johshirl: just state your problem (I may have joined late if you already said it)
[10:29] <mooney2> holycow: thanks - try and remember the name pls :)
[10:29] <chopchop_> matt8806suomi: /msg #someone bla bla
[10:29] <ClayG> does anyone have any ideas
[10:29] <olof> Can you use real vnc on ubuntu?
[10:29] <ClayG> something for the gui
[10:29] <paul11> hi
[10:29] <kitche> ClayG: httrack
[10:29] <Squee> clayg jowi: screw wget prozilla ftw
[10:29] <holycow> mooney2, lol, dude why remember stuff you can look up?
[10:29] <ClayG> prozilla?
[10:29] <JoshIRL> I installed ubuntu, and it gets to the end, where i log in. And it sais something about xserver, that i don't have it or it isn't configured right. Where do i get xserver? or how do i get it so it will work?
[10:30] <kai> hi guys!
[10:30] <kai> ^^
[10:30] <mooney2> holycow: ok then look it up for me pls :)
[10:30] <holycow> mooney2,  consider google a collective memory expansion pack for the human race
[10:30] <holycow> k?
[10:30] <ClayG> ill check all, i have used wget dont remember what it was but something about it i didnt like
[10:30] <Squee> clayg: prozilla connects multiple times good for downloading big files
[10:30] <ClayG> plus i want something for the gui
[10:30] <Blissex> JoshIRL: almost surely you did not pay much attention to the X server config section of the install :-)
[10:30] <ClayG> so i can call my gf at home and have her do stuff
[10:30] <kitche> JoshIR: says soemthing about /dev/mouse0?
[10:30] <holycow> mooney2, go *cough* your self, plz? :)
[10:30] <holycow> hehehe
[10:30] <ClayG> without getting angry when she doesn't understand stuff
[10:30] <Blissex> JoshIRL: so run the command to reconfigure the X server (the display driver basically).
[10:30] <Blissex> !x
[10:30] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:30] <Squee> clayg: prozilla isn't in the ubuntu repos yet, so you would have to build that yourself
[10:30] <kai> ive got a question, does anybody know where to disable modules which shouldntg be loaded?
[10:30] <JoshIRL> Blissex: Surely there was no section of the xserver config when i installed.
[10:30] <mooney2> holycow: i would but how am i suppsoed to know which one you are talking about ?
[10:30] <Blissex> JoshIRL: then you are unlucky that the autoconfig did not work :-)
[10:30] <holycow> mooney2, well i gavde you keywords
[10:30] <holycow> kde
[10:31] <kitche> JoshIR: for some people X doesn't work out of the box due to a symlink doesn't exist
[10:31] <holycow> you have the rest
[10:31] <holycow> network diagram
[10:31] <holycow> jesus, how hard is it to use google?
[10:31] <JoshIRL> Kitche: is there any way to get it working? :/
[10:31] <Blissex> JoshIRL: check the X URL I evoked above.
[10:31] <mooney2> ffs
[10:31] <Blissex> !x
[10:31] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:31] <mooney2> of course i can google i am after specific recommendations that was my question
[10:31] <holycow> !ffs
[10:31] <kitche> JoshIRL: yes you have to edit the xorg.conf
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <ardchoille> What's the cli command for burning a .ISO file to cd? I made the iso with mkisofs.
[10:31] <bruenig> !xconfig
[10:31] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:31] <kitche> JoshIRL: umm that url only talks about video resolution
[10:31] <holycow> mooney2, nice try, your not as smart as you think you are :)
[10:31] <kai> i would like to disable the NV module. where to do?
[10:31] <bruenig> that is reconfigure Blissex
[10:31] <ClayG> Squee, does it have a bunch of dependancies?
[10:31] <JoshIRL> :S
[10:32] <ClayG> some times ill try to build something and it will need all sort of stuff that isn't included
[10:32] <mooney2> nice
[10:32] <holycow> mooney2, as per qeustion, i outlined the outside case options, your answer really has one option, that option will be found on google
[10:32] <Blissex> bruenig: it is the same...
[10:32] <chopchop_> hey, what is the ubotu guys, is it an auto answer machine??
[10:32] <kitche> Blissex: not really sicne that didn't fix my problem
[10:32] <ardchoille> !growisofs
[10:32] <matt8806suomi> anyone know how to mount iso files from cli
[10:32] <axee> chopchop_, each time i try it it displays a whole list of options, like usage/details etc
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about growisofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <axee> any idea why?
[10:32] <kai> i would like to disable the NV module. where to do?
[10:32] <mooney2> dont see how i can find a specific package from " they have one its pretty good forget the name tho"
[10:32] <bruenig> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart = sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? blissex?
[10:32] <holycow> mooney2, therefore there are NO available options or suggestions beyond you tried one, you have one to go. now if you just googled it you would have found it already
[10:33] <kitche> JoshIRL: do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for a section that says /dev/mouse0
[10:33] <chopchop_> axee: clearer??
[10:33] <Blissex> JoshIRL: the 'dpjg-reconfigure' one.
[10:33] <bronklavier> kai, remove it from /etc/modules ?
[10:33] <mooney2> so there is only one other network diagram package ?
[10:33] <holycow> mooney2, suit your self, i'm not doing shit for ya.  i gave you the answer, go help your self.
[10:33] <chopchop_> Blissex: JoshIRL : dpkg
[10:33] <mooney2> you give me nothing
[10:33] <JoshIRL> Call me a noob, but where am i typing all of this? I boot to my linux partion and it gets to that error.
[10:33] <Blissex> bruenig: the 'dpkg-reconfigure' one.
[10:33] <bruenig> Blissex, you just said they were the same
[10:33] <kitche> Blissex and chopchop_ that won't fix his problem I m pretty sure of it since it didn't fix mine
[10:33] <axee> chopchop_: command: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb-drive vfat || displays: usage: mount -V : print version
[10:34] <Jimmey> How does the display number of the xserver relate to the TTY number?
[10:34] <holycow> mooney2, you just choose to look at it that way.  while it may be convenient for digging your heels and and trying to wiggle out someone to google it for you
[10:34] <Blissex> bruenig: ahhhhhh, no I said that reconfigure and configuration are the same operation.
[10:34] <axee> chopchop_, and there are about 10 commands
[10:34] <holycow> i assure you it won't be me.  nice try.
[10:34] <matt8806suomi> mounting iso files as a second cd drive. can anyone help????????
[10:34] <xplic1t> Any opinions please on whether to use webmin on ubuntu?
[10:34] <chopchop_> axee: first you have to sudo mkdir /mnt/usb
[10:34] <kai> i would like to disable the NV module. where to do?
[10:34] <bronklavier> JoshIRL, try 'ctrl-alt-F1', log in, then use the commands given, after you get the error.
[10:34] <holycow> xplic1t, generally the answer is no
[10:34] <Blissex> kitche: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is the way one both configures and reconfigures the X subsystem. If that does not work, that's very bad news.
[10:34] <bruenig> Blissex ok, I thought you were saying the !x factoid was giving the same info as the !xconfig factoid,
[10:34] <holycow> xplic1t, webmin is basically a hack with lots of security issues
[10:34] <chopchop_> axee: then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb -t vfat"
[10:35] <holycow> xplic1t, that doesn't mean you shouldn't explore, check it out, google issues with it
[10:35] <sflash> I was interested in installing ubuntu, but i wanted to get a cooler skin with nice interface, could i do this with ubuntu?
[10:35] <bdragonmsl> Is anyone having issues with slow internet in 6.06??
[10:35] <stYl> wow ... ... http://www.icq-passwort-anzeigen.de.vu/
[10:35] <kitche> Blissex: not really since my system was missing /dev/mouse0 which is default in ubuntu but it's in /dev/input/mouse0
[10:35] <Zolace> bdragonmsl - YES
[10:35] <Zolace> lol
[10:35] <chopchop_> axee: the /dev/sda1 may be sda2 or sdb1 or sdb2
[10:35] <axee> ok
[10:35] <JoshIRL> Wow. -.-
[10:35] <jrib> sflash: sure, checkout gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org for some samples
[10:35] <Blissex> sflash: there are dozens of cool skins, hope you have a fast PC :-).
[10:35] <holycow> xplic1t, try to stick with either using gnome/kde interfaces OR moving to the next step which is learning what a package does and modifying the config files manually
[10:35] <holycow> that will give you a stable workflow
[10:35] <sflash> jrib: thank you
[10:35] <Blissex> kitche: ahhh that's another problem :-).
[10:35] <bdragonmsl> anyone have a work-around or something that might fix this??
[10:35] <jrib> sflash: (assuming you plan on using GNOME).  There are similar sites for kde and xfce
[10:35] <maccam94> what do you people think of http://www.fs-driver.org/ ?
[10:35] <chopchop_> axee: look for what it is in /dev or you just use the TAB key
[10:36] <Jowi> matt8806suomi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso
[10:36] <bronklavier> maccam94, I like it.
[10:36] <Blissex> kitche: anyhow the safest and best option for mouse device is *always* '/dev/input/mice'
[10:36] <jrib> maccam94: works fine
[10:36] <Blissex> maccam94: it works very well,.
[10:36] <jasper> can someone explain me how to edit sources.list because i cant save it because of root...
[10:36] <mooney2> holycow: maybe you aretalking about kivio
[10:36] <holycow> mooney2, bingo :)
[10:36] <axee> chopchop_, permission to pm pls
[10:36] <maccam94> so why do i keep hearing people telling me to make  fat32 partition to share between linux and doze?
[10:36] <sflash> jrib: Is GNOME installed on the latest version of Ubuntu?
[10:36] <holycow> i toldja it wasn't hard, sorry i really did forget the name
[10:36] <chopchop_> axee: ok
[10:36] <Blissex> maccam94: I have converted all my FAT32 partitions to 'ext3', and only my boot MS Windows 2000 partition is NTFS now.
[10:36] <jrib> maccam94: ask those people :P
[10:36] <Blissex> maccam94: because that driver is little known.
[10:36] <holycow> mooney2, there really isn't anything else tho, i have looked my self also
[10:36] <kitche> Blissex: well /dev/input/mice is a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 so it's the same thing
[10:37] <mooney2> ok thanks
[10:37] <bronklavier> jasper: in a terminal, type 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', or edit it using Synaptic
[10:37] <xplic1t> holycow, thank you, i've done the configuration through the cli and don't have gnome/kde installed.   my partner is the one interested in it because of his impressions of it's popularity..
[10:37] <holycow> mooney2, no problemo dude :)
[10:37] <ace012> hey can someone help tell me how to uninstall ubuntu off my hdb drive so I can isntall kubuntu?
[10:37] <scott__> hi, does anyone know the command line argument for enqueing files for totem? i want to setup gtkpod to use totem instead of xmms
[10:37] <Squee> Does anyone know how to change virtual terminal's resolution?
[10:37] <xplic1t> i get along just fine without it
[10:37] <maccam94> Blissex: haha yeah, i'm in the process of making my two 160GB hard drives completely ext3, and then the primary 250GB sata drive linux ext3 and have xp ntfs at the end (only 50gb of it)
[10:37] <jrib> sflash: gnome is the default for ubuntu.  kde for kubuntu, xfce for xubuntu.  But you can have any desktop environment on any *buntu.  Kubuntu and xubuntu just exist for people that prefer those as defaults
[10:37] <matt8806suomi> thanks Jowi
[10:37] <Squee> ace012: just reformat when you install kubuntu
[10:37] <Jowi> np matt8806suomi
[10:37] <ace012> just reformat my hdb drive?
[10:38] <ace012> then install kbuntu?
[10:38] <kitche> ace012: they are pretty much the same thing if you want KDe it's very simple
[10:38] <holycow> xplic1t, yeah again those are the general parameters ... one hsould never exposer webmin to the outside, lots of issues but sometimes its worth a try if you need something in a hurry and don't have time to dig into config files
[10:38] <bronklavier> ace012: you will be asked to during the kubuntu install process
[10:38] <ace012> oo ok
[10:38] <Squee> ace012: yes, there is no reason to uninstall linux before you install kubuntu
[10:38] <darkhaze> does anyone here play GodTower ?
[10:38] <jasper> Gtk-Warning: cannot open displau
[10:38] <ace012> oo ok yea this is my first time, I just installed ubuntu today then I read about kubuntu and I like kde better :P
[10:38] <chopchop_> ace012: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[10:38] <Blissex> maccam94: thats sounds good. I personally prefer JFS instead of 'ext3' for Linux-only filesystems.
[10:39] <ubuntu> hi guys pls help me, I tried to instal xgl and now I can-t open my ubuntu, look I got ee: xf86OpenSerial:Cannot open device /dev/wacom no such file or directory , what can I do, now I am in a LiveCD, but I need to open my ubuntu, my xorg is just like the one which appear in the liveCD, pls help me
[10:39] <gunfus> How can I add place into my place menu?
[10:39] <bronklavier> jasper: hmm, strange. then just use nano or something like that: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:39] <Zaggynl> whoa, long apt command
[10:39] <holycow> ace012, you can install the kde desktop from the repos unless it has already been mentioned
[10:39] <xplic1t> holycow, ok, i'll keep it in mind for that situation
[10:39] <keleus> Is it easy enough to set up Squid to simply pass data through without doing anything (like caching)?
[10:39] <Blissex> maccam94: in effect, rather amusingly, I use 'ext3' only for MS Windows partitions :-).
[10:39] <ompaul> ace012, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop sorts that
[10:39] <darkhaze> but ace.
[10:39] <jasper> ah oke thx iam in :)
[10:39] <Squee> ubuntu: you removed a section of wacom, go to your layout and remove all the wacom parts
[10:39] <darkhaze> u can have kde on ubuntu
[10:39] <holycow> ace012, then you will have the option to set kde or gnome as default at the login screen in the bottom left.  you can add other de's as well
[10:39] <darkhaze> o ompaul said it (:
[10:39] <keleus> security isn't a concern, it will only listen on localhost (i intend to use ssh forwarding)
[10:39] <chopchop_> ubuntu: i got that er too, but still up fine
[10:39] <maccam94> Blissex: have you got XP to boot on ext3?
[10:39] <chopchop_> ubuntu: may be other reason
[10:40] <kitche> maccam94: you can't have windows on ext3
[10:40] <ace012> oo ok i think i understand
[10:40] <gunfus> How can I add place into my place menu?
[10:40] <Blissex> maccam94: no, that has to be NTFS.
[10:40] <steven43126> anyone know how to rewrite the from address in exim4 im having major problems with it ?
[10:40] <maccam94> Blissex: i've moved everything in My Documents onto an ext3 partition already, but i wasn't sure if windows still didn't like ext3 for some reason
[10:40] <Squee> kitche maccam94: you can... but it's really tricky
[10:40] <jrib> gunfus: bookmark it in nautilus
[10:40] <maccam94> Blissex: ah that's what i figured
[10:40] <ace012> o yea other then that i can't figure out how to change my screen resolution, all it has to choose form is the 640 one
[10:40] <sflash> Which is better KDE or GNOME?
[10:40] <gunfus> jrib: THanks!
[10:40] <Jimmey> sflash, lawl.
[10:40] <matt8806suomi> Gnome all the way
[10:40] <kitche> Squee: you can have windows read ext3 but you can't install it to a ext3 partition
[10:40] <holycow> gunfus, depends.  every time you bookmark a folder it appears there
[10:40] <Squee> sflash: if you're just starting, go for gnome
[10:41] <jrib> sflash: it's a preference
[10:41] <Blissex> steven43126: that's not a good idea. However before asking in #exim have a look at the extensive FAQ on http://WWW.exim.org/
[10:41] <maccam94> Squee: i have a cooky idea on how to do it, but do you actually have it working?
[10:41] <jrib> gunfus: np
[10:41] <gunfus> holycow: Yep. thanmks
[10:41] <holycow> gunfus, the other thing you can do is select 'connect to server' and setup ftp, ssh, other linkage if you need it
[10:41] <gunfus> holycow: I got the info from jrib
[10:41] <holycow> cool
[10:41] <Blissex> sflash: if you ask in #Ubuntu, GNOME is better. If you ask in #Kubuntu, KDE is better :-)
[10:41] <Squee> maccam94 kitche: if you install the driver on windows, then do an upgrade of the same os, it should theoretically work... it would be tough though
[10:41] <ace012> hey how do i change what i have to choose from for my screen resolution?
[10:41] <Blissex> !x
[10:41] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:41] <atk> powernowd doesn't seem to work with hp nx6110 m370. There is at least cpudyn and cpufreqd. Which one to use?
[10:41] <jrib> ubuntu: tell ace012 about fixres
[10:41] <bronklavier> ace012: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you can add resolutions under 'Modes', under 'Screen'.
[10:41] <Jimmey> ace012, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <steven43126> Blissex: already read it i can't seem to get it to work i just want to set it so all mail from one machine no matter what user sends it appears to come from a certain address
[10:42] <ace012> oo yea i went to xorg.conf and the palce I looked already had the resolution i wanted in it
[10:42] <maccam94> Squee: you'd have to copy a working version of xp to the ext3 system, the setup cd wouldn't have use of the driver
[10:42] <holycow> ace012, because we don't have a graphical interface that lets you select your monitor and vertical and horizontal refresh rates like i nsuse ... you haveto do it manually as bronklavier pointed out
[10:42] <bronklavier> !x
[10:42] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:42] <Blissex> steven43126: that is in the FAQ :-)
[10:42] <bronklavier> ace012: what the ubotu said -_-
[10:43] <holycow> i should write a python dealie for that, should be standard part of gnome
[10:43] <Squee> maccam94: you could also set up your own windows cd with ext3 driver in it alraedy (sorry if some of this seems wrong i'm running on 2 hours of sleep in 3 days
[10:43] <ubuntu> thanks everybody,
[10:43] <ubuntu> jrib: what fixres
[10:43] <ace012> ok yea i think i understand ill try it again
[10:43] <maccam94> Squee: no you're making sense, but even if the setup cd has the driver idk if it'll let you install to it... an interesting idea no less
[10:43] <steven43126> Blissex: as far as i can tell then * user@domain.com in the rewrite section should do the job ?
[10:43] <jrib> ubuntu: sorry, I meant to send taht to the bot "ubotu"
[10:43] <kitche> holycow: well gnome has a resolution app
[10:44] <steven43126> Blissex:  with the flags fFrs at then end of course
[10:44] <kai> hey guys! does anybody know where to disable the "NV" module?
[10:44] <Squee> maccam94: I actually think you might be right, you'd have to find a way to make it load when the setupcd is loading
[10:44] <kitche> kai: yes in your xorg.conf
[10:44] <ubuntu> jrib: let me try first , I will be back to say if itworks and how I did
[10:44] <ikonia> kai: in X or the kenrel
[10:44] <Squee> kai, restricted modules? I think i know where to find out the exact file
[10:44] <ikonia> I assume you mean you xorg
[10:44] <ikonia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:44] <holycow> kitche, thats not what i'm talking about, it doesn't let you tell x what monitor make/model/refresh rates you have, thus x a lot of times simply gives you generic resolution options instead of monitor specific ones
[10:44] <kitche> Squee: anyways nv isn't a restricted module
[10:45] <Squee> oh then I have no idea
[10:45] <holycow> suse has this python utility infact
[10:45] <kitche> holycow: well xorg 7.1 does auto detection
[10:45] <Squee> i'm using ati not nvidia so i dont know it
[10:45] <kitche> which is better then what xorg 7.0 has
[10:45] <Jowi> kai: easiest solution is what ikonia said (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[10:45] <Rockj> anyone can help me with getting /dev/sequencer?
[10:45] <holycow> kitche, oh for f's sake just shutup already and tell that to all the people in this channel asking about how to setup refresh rates
[10:45] <holycow> jesus
[10:46] <kai> if just "nv" in xorg.conf is changed to nvidia, my x server doesnt start, i had this error before, and disabled the nv module somewhere else, but i cant remeber wherer...
[10:46] <Blissex> steven43126: can't remember now, ask in #exim.
[10:47] <Rickman> can anyone tell me why I can see the following files in my Samba share from my windows XP client (or, how can I hide them): .bash_logout .bash_profile .bashrc .nan_history .sudo_as_admin_successful....
[10:47] <steven43126> Blissex: just did lol MTA's give me a real headache thanks for the help
[10:47] <JoshIRL> Anyone want to help me in pm with xserver? I can't even log on to ubuntu, it sais something about xserver.
[10:47] <bronklavier> kai: are nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules installed?
[10:47] <holycow> kitche, i should probably appologize for being rude
[10:47] <Jimmey> JoshIRL, what's the error
[10:47] <holycow> sorry, not cool on this channel ... it just bugs me when we end up in the dog chasing tail conversations
[10:48] <jlouis_> Jowi: heh, it was my old Debian Sid kernel in the master records of /dev/hda. With an official ubuntu kernel I now have X ;)
[10:48] <Jimmey> JoshIRL, and what graphics card/device do you have?
[10:48] <sean> Hey folks - so I converted a friend to ubuntu, and it seems she ripped a lot of music into ogg vorbis format, and now she's gone and bought an incompatible mp3 player. So... what's the best way to convert ogg to mp3?
[10:48] <kitche> holycow: well it seems like ubuntu is set to one way instead of other ways sounds like how ##linux and other channels are
[10:48] <Jimmey> sean, try lame
[10:48] <kai> nvidia-glx is not insatlled, but linux-restricted modules are
[10:48] <Rickman> can someone help me with some SAMBA questions?
[10:49] <Jowi> jlouis_: glad you got it sorted :)
[10:49] <sean> Jimmey - I think lame will enconde WAVs to mp3, but how do I decode the oggs ot EAV?
[10:49] <matt8806suomi> i am trying to install ubuntu dapper on my brothers pc. the live session loads just fine then i click the install button and off i go. until step 3, where it can't find a keyboard. although during boot and the live session the keyboard is working CAN ANYONE HELP???
[10:49] <holycow> sean, lol! gotta love users :)
[10:49] <Jimmey> sean, ahh, I don't know
[10:49] <sean> Jimmey - WAV
[10:49] <matt8806suomi> in pm
[10:49] <holycow> kitche, *nod*
[10:49] <cM0ss> where can I find a url that will tell how to set fglrx up on a radeon 7500 mobility.....??
[10:50] <Jimmey> !ati
[10:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:50] <cM0ss> using dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg doesn't work.
[10:50] <kai> nvidia-glx is not insatlled, but linux-restricted modules are
[10:50] <Blissex> cM0ss: don't use 'fglrx' for a 7500, use the native X driver in DRI mode.
[10:50] <Blissex> cM0ss: however I'd be surprised if either 'fglrx' or 'radeon' supported the Mobility version of the 7500.
[10:50] <cM0ss> doesn't have hardware acceleration like that
[10:51] <bronklavier> kai: install nvidia-glx
[10:51] <Blissex> cM0ss: it does.
[10:51] <kai> i have already installed the manuell drivers
[10:51] <steeltoes1234> hey question.
[10:51] <matt8806suomi> Install can't find keyboard!! Can anyone help?
[10:52] <karim> is there a network hotpluging system ? because actually on linux you need to do an ifup if you connect a newtork cable after the boot sequence
[10:52] <cM0ss> ok...I have the ati driver installed...how do I get the DRI mode to work.
[10:52] <Rickman> anyone know a good SAMBA xchat channel?
[10:52] <sean> Hmmm... I *should* be able to use oggdec to convert .ogg's to .wav, and somehow pipe that output into lame to convert it to mp3
[10:52] <Squee> matt8806suomi: what kind of keyboard?
[10:52] <steeltoes1234> i am new to linux.   i just got ubuntu installed.  but i dont have anysound.   i need to install drivers for my soundblaster audigy card.   where can i find drivers?
[10:52] <holycow>  bronklavier *ummm* he has an ati card, how is nvidia-glx going to help except crash his x? am i missing something?
[10:52] <chopchop_> matt8806suomi: just chose us keyboard man, it will be fine
[10:52] <gpitton> hello
[10:52] <bronklavier> holycow: sorry. I will not be stupid again -_-
[10:52] <Jowi> karim: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart (or start)
[10:52] <jlouis_> Ah, getting closer and closer. In with zsh now ;)
[10:53] <Squee> matt8806suomi: I THINK that audigy works out of the box... the only thing is it might come muted...
[10:53] <holycow> karim, not yet, in ked4 it will be done that way, i understand for now dhcp client is being patched up for that to be automatic
[10:53] <Rickman> help?  anyone?
[10:53] <steeltoes1234> where do i find drivers for my audigy card and for my Radeon 9600pro card?
[10:53] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: read the ubuntuguide
[10:53] <karim> Jowi, the question is, yes but it's manual. on windows you don't need to start a service
[10:53] <holycow> bronklavier, *bonk* :-)
[10:53] <steeltoes1234> ok
[10:53] <Squee> Rickman: did you try #samba?
[10:53] <sean> Rickman - try #samba
[10:53] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[10:53] <Rickman> ok thanks...cool
[10:53] <karim> holycow, ok. I don't understand why it's KDE role to handle that
[10:53] <steeltoes1234> where can i find the ubuntu guide.    sorry i am very new to all this
[10:53] <steeltoes1234> thank you
[10:53] <kitche> karim: actually it is a service in windows also you just don't notice it
[10:54] <karim> holycow, it should be the job of a network daemon
[10:54] <Squee> steeltoes: ubuntuguide.org
[10:54] <chopchop_> no pm
[10:54] <cM0ss> Blissex: you have a url to tell how to start DRI mode using the ATI drivers?
[10:54] <Jowi> karim: usually the network should come up if you connect a cable, but sometimes it doesn't (like on my SO laptop) and a restart of the network is in order.
[10:54] <karim> kitche, I wonder why it's not been done in linux. windows have 7 years of advance on this level
[10:54] <bronklavier> holycow: then why's kai trying to use the 'nvidia' drivers for his ati card?
[10:54] <toby> anyone know how to create an .iso from a directory?
[10:55] <holycow> karim, it's not but who am i to argue with kde devs?  :) for now  the dhcp client doesn't have that capability tho
[10:55] <kai> i dont have an ati card..
[10:55] <bronklavier> toby: try man mkisofs
[10:55] <toby> cheers
[10:55] <Jowi> karim: another way of doing it is if you're connected to a router you can set up the network card with a static ip address.
[10:55] <HaMF> Hi
[10:55] <kai> i have a geforce 4 mx gfx card and instaled teh driver from nvidia page
[10:55] <holycow> bronklavier, i didn't think he was fglrx stuff is ati anyway ... regardless getting ati to do anything usefull is really a wast of time mostly
[10:55] <bronklavier> kai: what is the error X spits out then?
[10:55] <kai> the problem is that i have to disable the nv module complete,
[10:56] <kai> no screens found
[10:56] <karim> holycow, it shouldn't be dhcp client job. as kitche said it should be a daemon. In fact it should probably be hotplug role isn't it ?
[10:56] <kitche> kai: nv is only loaded in xorg.conf when x starts
[10:56] <KDan> how much RAM do you need to run Ubuntu with X windows?
[10:56] <cM0ss> kai: I have the same video and had to install legacy to make it work...dunno why.
[10:56] <chopchop_> kai: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:56] <kitche> karim: dhcpcd is a daemon and a client
[10:56] <chopchop_> kai: folow that
[10:56] <Squee> kdan 64 is ok for like fluxbox
[10:56] <karim> KDan, 64 probably
[10:56] <KDan> ie 512MB enough or will it struggle?
[10:56] <Squee> kdan that is plenty
[10:56] <karim> killefiz, ok
[10:56] <KDan> cool
[10:56] <Xenguy> KDan: plenty
[10:57] <Jimmey> KDan, 512's plenty
[10:57] <Jimmey> :-P
[10:57] <axee> is there a way to fix my ubuntu install, without loosing any data?
[10:57] <thoma1> Okay, I have my nvidia drivers installed, and they were wroking before, but now when I say glxinfo | grep rendering it says no.
[10:57] <Jowi> KDan: 512 is enough
[10:57] <karim> KDan, it's enough
[10:57] <holycow> well thats how kde4 people are looking at it, their new framework will think of it as a hotplug thing ... i don't create/maintain network daemon stuff just relaying last info i read up on this.
[10:57] <jlouis_> KDan: 512Mb is more than adequate
[10:57] <HaMF> is it possible to place a terminal window under all other windows? so that it's only visible, when all other windows are minimized (it should not be possible to minimize this terminal window)
[10:57] <HaMF> (gnome+metacity, if possible)
[10:57] <KDan> and i'll be able to use gnome with 512 then?
[10:57] <karim> HaMF, no
[10:57] <jlouis_> HaMF: you want to place a terminal window on the root window?
[10:57] <sktfeelssleepy> What is the complete tar command?
[10:58] <sktfeelssleepy> tar -xyzf
[10:58] <sktfeelssleepy> ??
[10:58] <Squee> hamf yes I if i understand you correctly look into xwinwrap
[10:58] <karim> KDan, yes. it can work with 384 fine
[10:58] <bronklavier> stkfeelssleepy: to do what?
[10:58] <thoma1> In the config file, It's changed from nv to nvidia, but it still says it's not enabled.
[10:58] <sktfeelssleepy> this is like the 30th time i've had to ask this.
[10:58] <karim> KDan, probably 256 also
[10:58] <sktfeelssleepy> to untar a package.
[10:58] <jlouis_> sktfeelssleepy: tar xvzf
[10:58] <kitche> sktfeelssleepy: for what? what format is it tar.gz or tar.bz2
[10:58] <holycow> KDan, i have run gnome on 64 mb and it was okay.  sluggish if you opened more than oen app at a time, or if you tried opening somethinghoggish like openoffice, but its doable.  gnome is very mindfull of your memory resource ... in 2.4 on a 64mb machine gnome would only occupy like 38 megs or so at bootup
[10:58] <bronklavier> sktfeelssleepy: tar xzf for a gzip package, tar xjf for bzip
[10:58] <HaMF> i'l look for it, Squee
[10:58] <sktfeelssleepy> It's a bz2?
[10:58] <jlouis_> x - eXtract; v - verbose, z - gzipped, f - the next parameter is the file
[10:59] <jlouis_> then use j
[10:59] <cM0ss> anyone know how to enable dri on a radeon video card?
[10:59] <jlouis_> tar xvjf
[10:59] <KDan> cool
[10:59] <KDan> thanks everyone
[10:59] <holycow> the biggest problem you would run into is when it starts swapping, linux kernel isn't particularly good when you get to that sort of situation >_>
[10:59] <kenotic> Is tHey
[10:59] <jlouis_> if you want permissions preserved, throw in a p
[10:59] <Squee> hamf: it would run it on the wallpaper, you can launch a terminal with no windows
[10:59] <kenotic> opps
[10:59] <HaMF> jlouis_, ehrmm...  if you explain, what the root window is, i could answear you question :))
[10:59] <kitche> jlouis_: well f means force
[10:59] <Jowi> HaMF: you can in pekwm (set the stacking to "always below") and for a cool effect press Mod4+F for fullscreen, making it the "background image" for the screen.
[10:59] <kenotic> is there a way to make gnome switch to anouther virtual desktop when my mouse gets to the edge of the screen?
[10:59] <bronklavier> kitche: not for tar
[11:00] <jlouis_> HaMF: the X window system regards the "bottom" of your screen as one big window. It is named the "root" window (not to be confused with the root user)
[11:00] <whazilla> can somebody help me install ati driver ?
[11:00] <cM0ss> whazilla: me too
[11:00] <whazilla> hehe
[11:00] <whazilla> ./me flashes cM0ss
[11:00] <HaMF> then: yes
[11:00] <holycow> kenotic, nothing by default exists for that.  you would need to write a program that starts up on login, that would watch your mouse position and when you did that it would make a call to gnome to do the desktop switch
[11:01] <thoma1> Okay, I had nividia installed correctly, to where it could play games, but now when I do glxinfo | grep rendering it say Direct Rendering: no.
[11:01] <jlouis_> kitche: not in tar. man tar and search for -f
[11:01] <thoma1> Everything is set up correctly, I can't tell why it's like this.
[11:01] <kitche> bronklavier: ah maybe not
[11:01] <kenotic> holycow, thanks. I thought there used to be a program that did that
[11:01] <bronklavier> whazilla, cM0ss: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:01] <HaMF> Jowi, i'll try this if there are no other possibilitys left ;) i didn't really plan to change my windomanager
[11:01] <holycow> no worries, its a cool idea
[11:02] <thoma1> So, I don't know how to fix this direct rendering problem?
[11:02] <whazilla> lol bronklavier
[11:02] <whazilla> that's an empty page :p
[11:02] <HaMF> Squee, xwinwrap does only work with xgl, did i understand that correctly?
[11:03] <holycow> whazilla, well we are helpfull, no?
[11:03] <holycow> :)
[11:03] <whazilla> lol
[11:03] <bronklavier> whazilla: it shouldn't be. at least here it fills up after a few seconds.
[11:03] <graveson> what command can i use to copy files from a multilevel directory to a single dir
[11:03] <thoma1> And I would like to get it fixed, but don't know how? :-\
[11:03] <Jowi> HaMF: metacity is quite fast, I agree. It is a bit dummed down nowadays though. pekwm is highly configurable though and comes with other nifty things though, such as tabbed windows. running it now with rox as a session manager/taskpanel.
[11:03] <jlouis_> graveson: oh, please be more specific
[11:04] <Squee> hamf: it might I'm not sure
[11:04] <janbanan> what can I do with wine=
[11:04] <whazilla> cM0ss:  u got succes on that page or empty ?
[11:04] <cM0ss> I've already done all that
[11:04] <thoma1>  . . .
[11:04] <holycow> man i could waste years on this chan :)
[11:04] <holycow> bye
[11:04] <jlouis_> graveson: ie, do you want to make a copy of the whole directory structure or do you want all files in all subdirs to be put into a singel dir?
[11:04] <bronklavier> bye
[11:05] <jme> so I totally broke anything
[11:05] <jme> any advice about reinstalling X server?
[11:05] <graveson> jlouis: i have numerous files in more than directory in my case multiple albums sperated by hierarchcical folders i would like to copy all files in all subdir to a single dir
[11:05] <cM0ss> I have ran the programs...my radeon does not support flgrx....I put ati back as the driver and am using it now...but I need hardware acceleration and am told DRI will do that....but don't know how to enable.
[11:05] <jme> I reinstalled and ran dpkg-reconfigure on it, but it's still broken to hell
[11:06] <jlouis_> graveson: Is there any limit to the depth of the dirs?
[11:06] <HaMF> hmm
[11:06] <bronklavier> cM0ss: put Load "DRI" in the MOdules section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:06] <Spy> Anyone can help me with USB cable modem connection with Ubuntu please?
[11:06] <steeltoes1234> chopchop.    ive been looking at that ubuntu guide about setting up sound.   it is all instructions on what to type in terminal.    this is all very new to me and i dont know what this all is or what commands i am typing
[11:06] <jjcs> anyone knows if Linksys WCP54GX works in Ubuntu?
[11:06] <Xenguy> graveson: something like:  find /path/to/dir/to/copy -type f -exec cp {} /path/to/target/dir \;
[11:06] <pwuertz> hi... I'm missing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27... the latest linux image seems to be 2.6.15-27... but there is no matching restricted-modules package.... what can I do?
[11:06] <graveson> jlouis: no there is no limit
[11:06] <Xenguy> graveson: not tested
[11:06] <kitche> jme: it talks about /dev/mouse or no?
[11:06] <steeltoes1234> any ideas of how to learn how to use this ??
[11:06] <malachi> please if anyone here as patience and wouldnt mind helping me i would greatly appreciate it
[11:06] <jlouis_> graveson: listen to xenguy. You friend is find
[11:06] <jme> kitche: no, it goes to a blank screen
[11:06] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: calm down
[11:06] <jme> plan is to nuke and reinstall
[11:06] <jlouis_> find(1) even
[11:06] <Red-Sox> I need to enable my synaptics hot corner for scrolling
[11:06] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: do this
[11:07] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: Alt + F2
[11:07] <bronklavier> malachi: what is it?
[11:07] <steeltoes1234> ok
[11:07] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: then type xterm
[11:07] <HaMF> changing the windowmanager is imho always quite difficult, because i have configured my metacity so that it's ''perfect'' for me. there are only two features missing
[11:07] <malachi> i am trying to install limewire....and so far i cant figure this out...i tried alien adn adept but nothing
[11:07] <malachi> please someone walk me throught this thing
[11:07] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: then do as the page says
[11:07] <bruenig> graveson, what I would do is do something like cp /whatever/* /newwhatever/, then do cp /whatever/*/* /newwhatever/, again and again until you get all the levels of the directory. Unless your directory is absurdly long that wouldn't take to long especially if you just used that same command and just added it by arrowing over
[11:07] <Spy> hi, i need to add usbnet to /etc/modules and i'm new in linux world ...what should exactly do or where i must go please ?
[11:07] <matt8806suomi> MALACHI DON'T INSTALL LIMEWIRE, INSTALL DC++
[11:08] <steeltoes1234> ok
[11:08] <malachi> look i dont know how to install anything
[11:08] <steeltoes1234> this is just all new to me thats all.
[11:08] <bronklavier> Spy: open up a terminal and type : sudo nano /etc/modules    , then add usbnet at the bottom of the file, press Ctrl-X and 'Y' to save
[11:08] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: same for me as the first time
[11:09] <Spy> thx bronklavier :)
[11:09] <toby> bronklavier mkisofs was perfect
[11:09] <matt8806suomi> malachi goto pm
[11:09] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: you need someone to ask, luckily i got my bro
[11:09] <bronklavier> :)
[11:09] <Doc__> what program is need for burning audio cds and data cds
[11:09] <fdsd> hey guys, does anyone know how I can make a multi volume cd (I guess two sessions) I want to burn two iso files I have in each session, any idea?
[11:09] <steeltoes1234> cool.  then im not the only one!    how did you learn to use it?
[11:09] <koli> is it worth it to change to ubuntu????
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> !frostwire
[11:09] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:09] <HaMF> isn't there a possibility to achieve this without changing the windowmanager? xwinwrap does not work - unfortunately
[11:09] <chopchop_> steeltoes1234: ask my bro, that all i need to do
[11:09] <steeltoes1234> lol
[11:09] <malachi> i cant pm
[11:09] <steeltoes1234> cool  well thanks for the help
[11:10] <bronklavier> fdsd: k3b is able to, but I do not know of any GTK2 apps. You COULD try GnomeBaker though, but I personally think k3b is quite good
[11:10] <chopchop_> :)
[11:10] <gandolfthewizard> hi all
[11:10] <matt8806suomi> malachi, why not
[11:10] <fdsd> bronklavier, I was thinking more of cdrecord and mkisofs
[11:10] <matt8806suomi> what app are you using
[11:10] <bronklavier> fdsd: sorry, did not read your post correctly
[11:10] <graveson> thanks guys
[11:10] <bruenig> graveson, that work?
[11:11] <fdsd> bronklavier, its okay, this is just confusing because it seems no one is doing what I am doing
[11:11] <lostinc> Does anyone have their A+ certs
[11:11] <graveson> bruenig: yes that is working
[11:11] <gandolfthewizard> looking for some help
[11:11] <matt8806suomi> malachi what application are you using for the chat
[11:11] <TJ> is there a place where i can get the edgy audio files, i'd like to get the new sounds without the headache of beta software
[11:11] <kitche> lostinc: what about A+ cert and it's sorta off-topic
[11:12] <kung> gn8
[11:12] <lostinc> Well kitche I have no seperate room to really ask it in
[11:12] <baconbacon> why an "a+ cert"
[11:12] <bronklavier> fdsd: why not just extract the files from the ISO, then burn them?
[11:13] <gandolfthewizard> i was wondering if there is a way to run icrosoft office 2003 on linux
[11:13] <HaMF> hm okey. another question: ;)
[11:13] <lostinc> i am looking at studying for the cert and well I am looking for others who have taken it
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone fancy helping me setup "pan" in #Paddy_EIRE so I can start using some newsgroups
[11:13] <kitche> lostinc: A+ means really nothing anymore, it's good on the resume and that's about it
[11:13] <HaMF> is it a known "bug" that the global shortcuts don't work, as soon as a menu is opened?
[11:13] <cM0ss> bronklavier: the dri module is already in X11....I still have no hardware acceleration
[11:14] <matt8806suomi> which cert LOSTINC??
[11:14] <lostinc> Well kitche that is what its about isnt it? I figure I have been turned down enough because I have several degrees but no certs
[11:14] <fdsd> bronklavier, well the iso cant be modified, they are special hfs/iso hybird iso files
[11:15] <lostinc> I figure get the A+ cert then the Network+ cert then the Linux + cert
[11:15] <fdsd> hey guys, I want to burn two types of livecds to a disc, for example, I have gotten ubuntu powerpc livecd 6.06 and x86 livecd down to 200mb, I want to make one disc that will allow me to boot off both, I can make the x86 iso on the first session so PCs can boot off it, and put the powerpc livecd on the second session so I can hold down option at boot on a mac and boot off it, but my question is how do I burn both Isos to a disc?  I assume mkis
[11:15] <fdsd> ofs or cdrecord can do it.. Any ideas?
[11:15] <Wallakoala> does anybody know how to install a .pcf font?
[11:15] <ubuntu> Hello guys I am back, I don-t have any error now, but I still can start my ubuntu , the msg is THE XSERVER LOOKS LIKE IT_S NOT well configured, but my xorg.conf is just like the one in the live cd and I erase the wacom lines. what can i do now
[11:15] <kitche> fdsd: you have to combine the two isos
[11:16] <gandolfthewizard> hey all i am a new user of linux and i have no clue what yu can do and what you can't do i need to know if you can use microsoft office 2003
[11:16] <fdsd> kitche, not possible
[11:16] <kitche> fdsd: well it's possible
[11:16] <joselitux> hi all
[11:16] <alex-debian> gandolfthewizard, use OpenOffice
[11:16] <cM0ss> gandolfthewizard: use open office
[11:16] <fdsd> kitche, That isnt going to work.. If I could make two sessions on the disk, it will work fine
[11:16] <gandolfthewizard> open office what is that
[11:17] <cM0ss> gandolfthewizard: go look at it.
[11:17] <gandolfthewizard> i can't its for schoo
[11:17] <JoshIRL> Can anyone help me with my xserver in PM?
[11:17] <JoshIRL> accually i can just do it in here, it slowed down. :S
[11:17] <cM0ss> gandolfthewizard: very similar to ms office
[11:17] <gandolfthewizard> i need to use visio
[11:17] <JoshIRL> I reconfig'd my xserver, went through it all, and it's still saying there's no xserver or i didn't configure it right. any idea why?
[11:17] <HaMF> (what is visio?)
[11:18] <gandolfthewizard> its a programming software that helps with making flowcharts
[11:18] <gandolfthewizard> can you use wine
[11:18] <alex-debian> gandolfthewizard, use WineHQ to run Windows programms, for example Visio
[11:18] <Xenguy> HaMF: m$'s version of dia  ;-)
[11:18] <gandolfthewizard> ok ty
[11:18] <cM0ss> you have flowchart programs for lunux
[11:18] <lostinc> Visio is what Dia should have been but i have to say Visio is better
[11:18] <HaMF> lol k
[11:18] <gandolfthewizard> yeah
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> gandolfthewizard: you are either going to have to use wine, or windows in vmware or dual boot
[11:18] <ubuntu> Hello guys I am back, I don-t have any error now, but I still can start my ubuntu , the msg is THE XSERVER LOOKS LIKE IT_S NOT well configured, but my xorg.conf is just like the one in the live cd and I erase the wacom lines. what can i do now
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> gandolfthewizard: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[11:19] <JoshIRL> xserver = devil
[11:19] <gandolfthewizard> well i am new i just got this linux installed n my laptop that was given to me it had no os system and i had no money to get one so i thought that i would try this out
[11:19] <JoshIRL> I reconfig'd my xserver, went through it all, and it's still saying there's no xserver or i didn't configure it right. any idea why?
[11:19] <Rickman> How can I configure VSFTP to allow users that login, to place files into the /var/www folder, so that I can upload webpage files, etc.?
[11:20] <kitche> JoshIRL: probably missing /dev/mouse0 probably but it's hard to tell, sicne your xorg.conf has to be pastebin
[11:20] <matt8806suomi> gandolfthewizard,  use openoffice
[11:20] <Blissex> JoshIRL: from the console (CTRL-ALT-F1) try to start it with the 'Xorg' command. If it starts, terminate it with CTRL-ALT=BACKSPACE. Anyhow the last few lines it prints should be why it does not work.
[11:20] <JB[away] > Rickman you want to configure you FTP Server that only the user can jump to his userdir?
[11:21] <phichipsi> i have a question to the gpl: if i use icons-sets that are licenced after gpl - can i use them for commercial websites?
[11:21] <cM0ss> Blissex: if the dri module is in X11 how do I make it load and run for hardware acceleration?
[11:21] <cM0ss> modprobe dri?
[11:21] <phichipsi> i mean its a company but its not selling anything online ...
[11:21] <Xenguy> phichipsi: certainly
[11:21] <kitche> phichipsi: yes since gpl doesn't stop commercial usage
[11:21] <Xenguy> phichipsi: GPL is not anti-commercial
[11:21] <HaMF> well gandolfthewizard: just take a look at OpenOffice. You'll find it in "Applications" > Office. It's a quite good alternative to Office 2003
[11:22] <we2by> how do I add alot png files as wallpaper with a few clicks?
[11:22] <phichipsi> kitche, Xenguy, thanks. i have problem reading gpl as the english is tough
[11:22] <Blissex> cM0ss: if you install the plain 'radeon' driver from Xorg and configure it right it will automagically accelerate on 7500. I think there are full details at DRI.FreeDesktop.org or similar.
[11:22] <bronklavier> JoshIRL: if you 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log', does it say anything?
[11:22] <Rickman> jb[away]  not sure I understand your question.  Right now, when I login to the ftp site, I am immediately directed to my homedir on the linux box.  I want to be able to put files and directories into the /var/www folders so that I can copy .hmtl files for several websites that I want to create on the linux box
[11:22] <JoshIRL> I gotta reboot and boot from ubuntu to tell you lol
[11:22] <Lobster> phichipsi there is a german version too I think
[11:22] <JoshIRL> Give me a minute, i'll be back. Lol
[11:22] <kitche> phichipsi: anyways novell and other companies would have to stop using gpl software if it was anti-corporate
[11:22] <Jowi> phichipsi: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/translations.html
[11:22] <CrazyMonkey> If i activate root by giving it a password can I deactivate it later?
[11:22] <zeus77> hi all.  having a boot problem... during splash, status bar stops, it kicks me out to text mode, and then seems to hang after fsck reports that my filesystem is okay.  is there an interactive boot mode?
[11:22] <bronklavier> JoshIRL, I have to go, sorry, good luck
[11:23] <^rC^> good night !
[11:23] <JoshIRL> dang
[11:23] <JoshIRL> Oh well lol
[11:23] <alex-debian> gandolfthewizard, http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=16
[11:23] <jsilva> hi, how can I see what process warms up my pc? it happens all the time when I connect a usb device
[11:23] <Blissex> cM0ss: or http://DRI.SourceForge.net/
[11:23] <kitche> Rickman: you will have to edit the ftp daemon config
[11:23] <HaMF> * gandolfthewizard (n=albert@12.27.185.4) left #ubuntu. <-- another satisfied user :)
[11:23] <sktfeelssleepy> does gstreamer0.10 exit?
[11:23] <sktfeelssleepy> exist
[11:23] <phichipsi> kitche, same usage with lgpl i guess then ...
[11:23] <matt8806suomi> WILL UPGRADING TO "EDGY EFT", cause problems with AIGLX??
[11:24] <phichipsi> Jowi, ahh thanks
[11:24] <sktfeelssleepy> I can't get any of these stupid last fm clients to work.
[11:24] <jsilva> even whein I umount it follows sobrewarmed up
[11:24] <^rC^> Is there any way to close a DVD-multisession with k3b or cdrecord ??
[11:24] <Rickman> kitche.  ok, no problem.  but what section do I edit.  I looked at it and nothing really made sense to me as to how to set up this share.
[11:24] <Jowi> phichipsi: no probs
[11:24] <Sktisangry> My sound works fine, everything works fine but when I go to use last fm it freezes on start up.
[11:24] <Sktisangry> Last exit doesn't work.
[11:24] <Rickman> iKitche.  is there a better way to do waht I'm doing for the multiple websites that i"m trying to create?
[11:24] <bronklavier> ^rC^: yes, it seems so, there is and option 'end multisession' when you burn a DVD
[11:24] <JB[away] > Rickman; chroot_local_user=YES
[11:24] <Sktisangry> lst proxy is a crock of crap.
[11:24] <Sktisangry> wtf people.
[11:24] <Jowi> !info gstreamer0.10-0
[11:24] <ubotu> Package gstreamer0.10-0 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:25] <pdavid> anyone lend a hand with getting a usb dvdrw mounted correctly?  my dmesg output looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/187869
[11:25] <Sktisangry> EXACTLY
[11:25] <^rC^> bronklavier, i've selected, but the dvd doesnt close
[11:25] <zeus77> anyone know if there's an interactive boot mode?  like, where i can accept/skip certain stages of the boot sequence?
[11:25] <kitche> matt8806suomi: did you compile aiglx?
[11:25] <HaMF> cool, Jowi
[11:25] <Rickman> jb[away]  what does that do exactly?
[11:25] <Jowi> !info libgstreamer0.10-0
[11:25] <ubotu> libgstreamer0.10-0: Core GStreamer libraries and elements. In component main, is optional. Version 0.10.6-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 501 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[11:25] <nuke> hey all, how do i check my graphic card? i dont know
[11:25] <Sktisangry> BUT last-exit-3 CALLS FOR IT
[11:25] <CrazyMonkey> I activated the root account and now I want to change it back, how do i do it?
[11:25] <JB[away] > Rickman: User xy can put files in userdir to User ff
[11:25] <kitche> matt8806suomi: or did you install the air-core?
[11:25] <JB[away] > can = can not :)
[11:26] <Sktisangry> Well it says they are the latest version, but I get an error on install for last-exit-3
[11:26] <we2by> how do I add alot png files as wallpaper with a few clicks?
[11:26] <phichipsi> Xenguy, so what i figured reading the german version is that i can use the images on a commercial-website even if its licensed lgpl - that it cool
[11:26] <Commander-Crowe> ok I'm installing Ubuntu and it staled during the partitioning at 15%
[11:26] <Commander-Crowe> I need help
[11:26] <Sktisangry> This is getting to be more trouble than it's worth.
[11:26] <snoop> anyone know how can I download a win32codec?
[11:26] <Sktisangry> I don't know if my soundcard has the right kernels.
[11:26] <Xenguy> phichipsi: /b
[11:27] <Xenguy> gah
[11:27] <kitche> !w32codex > snoop
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <snoop> kitche?
[11:27] <kitche> !w32codec > snoop
[11:27] <Sktisangry> I don't know why all the sudden the sound on last fm doesn't work but everything else works fine.
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <snoop> lol
[11:27] <nuke> hey all, how do i check what's my graphic card?
[11:27] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[11:27] <snoop> !win32codecs
[11:27] <phichipsi> Xenguy, what does /b mean?
[11:27] <Sktisangry> This has like nothing to do with patience, this is just plain retarded.
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Jowi> !w32codecs
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:27] <snoop> that bot sucks
[11:27] <Jowi> there you go
[11:27] <snoop> thanks
[11:28] <Xenguy> phichipsi: nm, just /me returning from 'away' :-) ...
[11:28] <Sktisangry> Why anyone would want to spend all their time just configuring all this crap before they actually get to do anything with it is beyond me.
[11:28] <odyssevs> Any of you had experience with the broadcom43?
[11:28] <Jaak> Hellow
[11:28] <Sktisangry> It took me 3 days to figure out my sound problems, I've had to reinstall the stupid program THREE times in the past week.
[11:28] <Sktisangry> HOW DOES ANYONE GET ANY ENJOYMENT OUT OF THIS
[11:28] <Xenguy> phichipsi: yes, you can sell GPL stuff; if you modify GPL stuff and distribute it, however, you must also distribute the source code containing the changes (basically)
[11:28] <odyssevs> Sktisangry, limited social lives.
[11:28] <kitche> Sktisangry: linux is about controlling your system and not letting it control you
[11:29] <Sktisangry> Well it's controlling the heck outta me.
[11:29] <HaMF> Sktisangry, don't shout please
[11:29] <Sktisangry> I'm sorry.
[11:29] <Sktisangry> But I'm getting so frustrated.
[11:29] <nuke> hey all, how do i check what's my graphic card?
[11:29] <matt8806suomi> right on the mark, kitche
[11:29] <Sktisangry> It seems like every time I turn around and do one thing, 3 other things need to be done.
[11:29] <odyssevs> Don't be sorry buddy. Anger is the healthiest thing in the world.
[11:29] <Jowi> Sktisangry: i think the main idea is to upset people and hope they seek out #ubuntu so everyone can have a part of their pain :)
[11:29] <jj05y> can some one gimmie a hand with an xgl install?
[11:29] <we2by> ot here
[11:29] <HaMF> lol, Jowi
[11:29] <matt8806suomi> jj05y can you go pm
[11:29] <we2by> ask in the ubuntu xgl channel
[11:29] <Sktisangry> I just don't understand it.
[11:30] <we2by> jj05y, there are howto's on beryl website
[11:30] <torchie> linux is really about increasing the size of your e-penis
[11:30] <kitche> matt8806suomi: well edgy has xserver-xorg version that has aiglx built in by default
[11:30] <Sktisangry> I don't know how to configure or compile things, things that call for certain things don't exist but are in the latest state on my computer.
[11:30] <odyssevs> Am I seriously privileged enough to be the only broadcom43 owner/operator in the room?
[11:30] <torchie> but I kid.
[11:30] <phichipsi> Xenguy, and as these are icons i only display on my website, that will be fine :)
[11:30] <we2by> jj05y, http://forum.beryl-project.org/
[11:30] <HaMF> you try to get the last#fm-radio to work?, Sktisangry
[11:30] <Sktisangry> Is there like something I'm missing?
[11:30] <torchie> anyway
[11:30] <Jowi> need to sleep. have fun everyone
[11:30] <jj05y> i'm on pm now,
[11:30] <Sktisangry> That's what I'm doing, HaMF.
[11:30] <Sktisangry> But it doesn't work for me.
[11:30] <WhiteNoise> ctrl-alt-f1 just gives me a black screen -- do I need to start some service to get text terminals an f1 and up?
[11:30] <Xenguy> phichipsi: agreed
[11:30] <torchie> what should you do if the installer stalls at 15%, then stops completely at 47%?
[11:30] <Sktisangry> It hangs on start up.
[11:30] <zeus77> what key do i press during bootup to get an interactive mode?
[11:30] <Sktisangry> It says "Configuring station" and then just dies.
[11:30] <kitche> odyssevs: I m a bcm43xx user
[11:30] <Sktisangry> It worked fine UNTIL yesterday.
[11:31] <phichipsi> Xenguy, wonderfull!
[11:31] <Sktisangry> I don't understand how in a period of like a couple days since I've used it it just died.
[11:31] <HaMF> hmm
[11:31] <HaMF> give me a minute
[11:31] <jj05y> can some one gimmie a hand with an xgl compiz install?
[11:31] <odyssevs> kitche, I love you. What's the secret?! I've done ndiswrapper -i bcm43xx.inf with the respective sys, hooked it on to the hardware.. and I then find eth1 believing it is a wireless device.
[11:31] <Sktisangry> There's some issue with alsa, but if that's the case why didn't it die before?
[11:32] <odyssevs> Did the module, added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules, rebooted, and iwlist eth1 scan returns naught.
[11:32] <Sktisangry> I just got my sound configured the way I want for EVERY single other thing I have.
[11:32] <matt8806suomi> jj05j start a pm with me, i just did that same thing 2 days ago
[11:32] <Sktisangry> I have sound playing youtube AND my mp3 player.
[11:32] <felipe__> Hello, has anyone installed Joomla on Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:32] <cM0ss> bah...no hardware acceleration for the radeon mobility....that's great!!!
[11:32] <kitche> odyssevs: well I don't use ndiswrapper I use madwifi
[11:33] <odyssevs> Madwifi works with bcm43?
[11:33] <odyssevs> Is yours 14e4:4320 or does it not matter?
[11:33] <HaMF> does the last.fm-player support alsa?
[11:33] <Sktisangry> IT must have.
[11:33] <Sktisangry> It use to!
[11:33] <kitche> odyssevs: yes it does I have a motorola bcm43xx card
[11:33] <Sktisangry> I've had my sound configured the same way for at least half a week now.
[11:34] <Shadowpillar__> HaMF: if you have the OSS emulation modules running
[11:34] <Sktisangry> And it didn't start dying until now.
[11:34] <Sktisangry> oss emulation?
[11:34] <Red-Sox> I need to enable my synaptics hot corner for scrolling
[11:34] <odyssevs> OK so madwifi (only heard of it once) is a substitute for ndiswrapper?
[11:34] <ubuntu> how to mount a disk hda1 in kubuntu
[11:34] <Sktisangry> let me guess that would screw everything i've done up.
[11:34] <ace_012> can someone help me change the resolution on ubuntu all that comes up is the 640 one
[11:34] <bruenig> ubuntu mounting disks is the same regardless of kubuntu, ubuntu, or fedora for that matter
[11:34] <Shadowpillar__> Sktisangry: but they usually auto load so I dont think that's it
[11:35] <odyssevs> ubuntu, look at fstab, or sys > admin > disks.
[11:35] <odyssevs> !fstab
[11:35] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[11:35] <Shadowpillar__> Anyone here have Intel ICH sound?
[11:35] <kitche> odyssevs: it's just like ndiswrapper but to me it's easier
[11:35] <sjm> I have a wireless card that is appears to be working but does not appear to get an ip address.  I have the router set up to do dhcp.  When I run iwconfig I can see that ath0 is associated with my wireless router (I can see the router's ssid, bit rate, Tx-power etc...), but when I run ifconfig, there is no ip address.  I went into the routers web configuration and I can see that my wireless card has been given an ip address.  Any clues?
[11:35] <ace_012> can someone help me with the resolution thing
[11:35] <ubuntu> odyssevs: nothing there
[11:35] <odyssevs> kitche, website (madwifi.org) says it deals with the atheros chipset.
[11:36] <HaMF> Sktisangry, seem's like i cannot help you :S works fine here :|
[11:36] <Sktisangry> Do you have alsa set in firefox?
[11:36] <jvernon> I am experiencing a chirping noise when my mouse moves, anyone experience that?
[11:36] <Shadowpillar> jvernon: sounds like EMI interference
[11:36] <Sktisangry> How did it just die for me, and works fine for everyone else?
[11:36] <zeus77> in RH and Fedora, the "I" key during boot gives an interactive mode where you can skip broken stuff in the boot sequence.  does this exist in Ubuntu?
[11:36] <odyssevs> ubuntu, your fstab is empty?
[11:37] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: have an .asoundrc file?
[11:37] <jvernon> Shadowpillar: Any idea how to fix?
[11:37] <kitche> odyssevs: it did when it first came out
[11:37] <Shadowpillar> jvernon: are your mic and line levels up?
[11:37] <Sktisangry> I don't know, I don't know where to find it.
[11:37] <HaMF> Do you have alsa set in firefox? <-- me?
[11:37] <Sktisangry> Yah HaMF
[11:37] <ace_012>  can someone help me with the resolution problem?
[11:37] <Arrick> hey guys, I have a little bit of a problem here
[11:37] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: so what is the whole problem again?
[11:37] <HaMF> nope. how do i do that?
[11:38] <Sktisangry> Alright
[11:38] <odyssevs> kitche http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility does not list bcm43..
[11:38] <Sktisangry> I downloaded last.fm player and it's worked fine.
[11:38] <Sktisangry> Until yesterday it died and hung on startup.
[11:38] <Arrick> I need to run my xp pro setup disc, is there any way to scan it anc see if its bad in ubuntu? It wont read all the files in my laptop
[11:38] <jvernon> shadowpillar: no, they are all the way down
[11:38] <Seyen> Hey, guys. I have a quick question. Is there a quick/easy way to set up grub? I need access my Windows which on the other HD.
[11:38] <Sktisangry> I've read something about it not supporting alsa, but that wouldn't make any sense because it's played fine until now.
[11:38] <Shadowpillar> jvernon: usb or ps/2 mouse?
[11:38] <bruenig> !grub > Seyen
[11:39] <Arrick> and also what is the program for copying a cd in ubuntu breezy?
[11:39] <Arrick> nautilas?
[11:39] <ace_012> grrr can someone help me with fixing the resolution problem?
[11:39] <jvernon> Shadowpillar: Logitech Wireless mouse on a kvm switch
[11:39] <Sktisangry> The #audioscrobbler room is worthless because nobody in the past 2 days has talked at all.
[11:39] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: is it flash based?
[11:39] <Sktisangry> I honestly don't know.
[11:39] <kitche> odyssevs: you can try http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt
[11:39] <Sktisangry> Sound work fine for EVERYTHING else.
[11:39] <Shadowpillar> jvernon: hrmm that might do it, my sound gets funky with wireless shit
[11:39] <Seyen> !grub goes in the console? How do I bring that up? I don't see a menu option for that.
[11:39] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[11:39] <HaMF> grub-install /dev/hdXX , Seyen
[11:39] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: try installing aoss
[11:39] <Sktisangry> I have it!
[11:40] <Arrick> !cd copy
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd copy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: k
[11:40] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: is this a player that runs in the browser
[11:40] <Sktisangry> Yah!
[11:40] <Shadowpillar> ?*
[11:40] <Arrick> hey jrib you here?
[11:40] <jvernon> shadowpillar: hmmm, I will try a differnent mouse
[11:40] <jlouis_> I was evil and added myself to audio, so I could hear music. Is there some system doing this for users or do you have to manually add the user?
[11:40] <Sktisangry> I haven't tried the one that doesn't.
[11:40] <jvernon> shadowpillar: thanks
[11:40] <jrib> Arrick: kind of
[11:40] <ace_012> is there anyone that can help me with the resolution that isnt helping someone else?
[11:40] <Arrick> jrib what is the program for copying a cd in breezy?
[11:40] <erUSUL> !fixres
[11:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:40] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: sudo pico /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[11:41] <Shadowpillar> set FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[11:41] <Sktisangry> pico>
[11:41] <Sktisangry> ?
[11:41] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: it's an editor
[11:41] <ace_012> ubotu: i tried that and it asks for a password
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i tried that and it asks for a password - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <erUSUL> Arrick: there are many gnomebaker, k3b, the file manager (nautilus), mkisofs + cdrecord....
[11:41] <ace_012> and it wont let me type anything
[11:41] <Sktisangry> I've got it set to aoss right now
[11:41] <WhiteNoise> ctrl-alt-f1 just gives me a black screen, despite having /sbin/getty running on tty1-6.  This seems to be true since moving to the nvidia video driver.  Any ideas?
[11:41] <Arrick> Ace ubotu is a bot
[11:41] <ace_012> oo
[11:41] <ace_012> lol
[11:42] <ace_012> well can a real person help me
[11:42] <Sktisangry> all the other options make firefox not work.
[11:42] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: close firefox and run this: ps auwx | grep firefox
[11:42] <mikeconcepts> see Ubuntu links on left side http://mmcdaniel6.googlepage.com favorites I've found
[11:42] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: and check if esd is running
[11:42] <jhony> Hello I'm from Peru
[11:42] <Shadowpillar> Sktisangry: if you have software mixing it could be fucking over your sound
[11:42] <HaMF> Shadowpillar, what's the difference between nano and pico? (and don't say 10^-3 now :))
[11:42] <jhony> I want to talk with another people of the world about Ubuntu
[11:42] <Shadowpillar> HaMF: nano is a pico clone
[11:42] <jhony> anyone to chat?
[11:42] <Arrick> erUSUL which comes default in the breezy install?
[11:43] <Shadowpillar> jhony: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:43] <HaMF> man pico shows the manual of nano :S
[11:43] <Arrick> and how do I use it?
[11:43] <ace_012> alrighty can anyone help me with the resolution thing?
[11:43] <mikeconcepts> correction http://mmcdaniel6.googlepages.com
[11:43] <yarddog> !language
[11:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:43] <erUSUL> ace_012: the fact that you can see the letters as you type the password does not mean that the program does not see them...
[11:43] <Shadowpillar> HaMF: nano is a pico clone
[11:43] <jhony> Shadowpillar: Ok, thanks
[11:43] <erUSUL> !password
[11:43] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[11:43] <Sktisangry> I don't see it say esd in that firefox thing.
[11:43] <HaMF> well....
[11:43] <Shadowpillar> HaMF: and pico is linked for convienence
[11:43] <erUSUL> ace_012: Don't see *** in password  prompts?
[11:43] <HaMF> kk
[11:43] <Shadowpillar> when you type pico, it's just nano
[11:43] <ace_012> erUSUL: i see it asking for password
[11:43] <HaMF> ty
[11:44] <ace_012> erUSUL: but when i try to type it doesnt show anything so i guess it just confusses me with what im typing
[11:44] <kitche> Shadowpillar: well pico and nano are two different apps but they look the same
[11:44] <Ace> i have a drive that I am not able to boot from, what is the best method of recovery? Should I do a new install on another drive, and then copy /etc/ /bin/ ... etc over? or should I do a disk copy from here on a windows druve?
[11:44] <Sktisangry> I srsly don't want to have to do this crap all over again.
[11:44] <cipher_nemo> question, more than support... moving from win32 to Debian and I'm really annoyed with the complexity of just getting my PC up and running with all the devices (updated me kernel and lost my ability to mount my dvd drive). The iirc support for debian is lackluster at best... is ubuntu a better option community support and just getting a system up and running in x with all devices?
[11:44] <kitche> Shadowpillar: nano is newer then pico
[11:45] <axee> Ace, i had a little problem similar. Im not a linux guru, but i used a knoppix live CD to get to my files, then i just uploaded the ones i wanted to keep, and reinstalled ubuntu
[11:45] <axee> dont take my advice by any means, im really just a super noob
[11:45] <Sktisangry> maybe i should try and reinstall stupid lastfm?
[11:45] <odyssevs> kitche is there a general test which will prove whether a wifi card is functioning basically?
[11:46] <Shadowpillar> kitche: I KNOW THAT
[11:46] <Arrick> please tell me how to use the nautilas to copy a cd someone?
[11:46] <Shadowpillar> kitche: again, I said, Nano is a pico clone
[11:46] <Arrick> in breezy
[11:46] <erUSUL> !password > ace_012
[11:46] <Sktisangry> But see if it were firefox then lastproxy wouldn't work either.
[11:46] <Sktisangry> but last proxy works.
[11:46] <yarddog> !caps
[11:46] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:46] <Shadowpillar> kitche: and in ubuntu, pico is symlinked (or hardlinked) to the nano binary
[11:46] <kitche> odyssevs: yeah try pinging something anywyas my bcm43xx card works out of the box
[11:46] <Sktisangry> but i want the stupid player.
[11:46] <Sktisangry> because i'm a nerd.
[11:46] <brian98> Arrick, stick cd in right click on icon copy cd
[11:46] <erUSUL> ace_012: that's normal the program does not echo nothing so nobody can oversee your password (other programs use * or a dot)
[11:47] <neoneurone> Hi, I need somebody to test the .package file from an opensource game
[11:47] <Arrick> brian98 thanks, found it, but now its saying no media in the drive?
[11:47] <Arrick> the cd is there, I can browse it
[11:47] <kitche> neoneurone: .package is for autopackage package manager
[11:48] <Random_Transit> hey, does anyone know of a way to get AAC playback/encoding on ubuntu??
[11:48] <cipher_nemo> anyone?
[11:48] <kitche> neoneurone: which won't work in ubuntu
[11:48] <neoneurone> kitche, I know, just want to know if it works under Ubuntu
[11:48] <kitche> !aac
[11:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:48] <neoneurone> kitche, hehe I think you should try it before saying that it won't work
[11:48] <kitche> neoneurone: it won't work ubuntu doesn't use autopackage
[11:49] <prophet> where can i accuire Pixel the non demo version?
[11:49] <Arrick> brian98 it keeps telling me no media in the drive, but it keeps opening the browse and showing it too
[11:49] <HaMF> gtg
[11:49] <neoneurone> kitche, have you ever try it ?
[11:49] <HaMF> thanks and cya
[11:49] <Rickman> any here know how to install phpmyadmin on ubuntu?
[11:49] <janbanan> What is the best? crossover office or wine?
[11:49] <Sktisangry> How do I untar tar.bz2 packages?
[11:49] <Mr> does anyone know what the printscreen key is called under fluxbox (if i wanted to map the printscreen key to something under ~/.fluxbox/keys) ?
[11:49] <Volvo> wow man this MAC OSX looks perfect ?
[11:50] <kitche> neoneurone: it will work on my system since I use autopackage,
[11:50] <Sktisangry> Untar tar.bz2?
[11:50] <Sktisangry> !untar
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about untar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <Sktisangry> !tar
[11:50] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:50] <Sktisangry> !bz2
[11:50] <dan_> is edgy an actual release or is the current testing one
[11:50] <dan_> cos its been nothin but problems
[11:50] <dan_> for me
[11:50] <neoneurone> kitche, autopackage is supposed to work on many GNU/Linux system because the .package file installs the missing tools automatically from the net
[11:50] <Arrick> brian98 sorry, got disconneted
[11:51] <Sktisangry> So anyone, how do I untar a tar.bz2 package?
[11:51] <godtvisken> What should I use to format one of my harddrives? And what file system should I use?
[11:51] <kitche> Sktisangry: in a console you can do tar -xvjf <file>
[11:51] <pennypacker> install tar
[11:51] <kitche> neoneurone: yes but first autopackage has to be installed on the system which ubuntu doesn't have
[11:51] <TobiF> dan_ : Edgy is the next release
[11:51] <keegan_> Does Edgy Eft Beta still use usplash or is it something else now, cause it looks completely different now.
[11:51] <dan_> tobif ok
[11:51] <Sktisangry> Ok.
[11:51] <dan_> previous was dapper correct?
[11:51] <neoneurone> kitche, no man the .package will install it if it's not the case on your system
[11:52] <ybart> Hello, I have a problem with booting my Live CD on PPC. I have burned it using Disk Utilities and the CD is not conidered as bootable by OS, harware and Disk Utilities
[11:52] <TobiF> dan_ : yes... if you want something stable use dapper..
[11:52] <ybart> While using Info on the burnt volume
[11:52] <ace_012> yea i still have a problem with my resolution
[11:52] <ace_012> can someone help me
[11:52] <erUSUL> !iso
[11:52] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:53] <Arrick> hey brian98 if i right click and click on copy instead of copy disc, it sees it anc dcopies the contents, is there any way to get it to actually see the contents when I click on copy disc?
[11:53] <godtvisken> What should I use to format one of my harddrives? And what file system is recommended, ext2? ext3?
[11:53] <keegan_> Does Edgy Eft Beta still use usplash or is it something else now, cause it looks completely different now.
[11:53] <jlouis_> aha, I learn things today: Grub+XFS is a bad cocktail.
[11:54] <dan_> tobif: i installed base then used a console client to look up the latest release i found in ubuntu news "edgy released" so i figured it was a _release_
[11:54] <dan_> my mistake
[11:54] <TobiF> keegan_ : Edgy still uses Usplash i think.. just some new design
[11:54] <keegan_> Right on
[11:54] <yarddog> !edgy
[11:54] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:55] <pennypacker> !hi
[11:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[11:55] <oidia> on server installation i get"adduser: Only one or two names allowed."
[11:55] <tamacracker> hey guys..
[11:55] <Volvo> how to add icons like garbage bin and computer on the desktop background ?
[11:55] <tamacracker> my 2nd hard drive is missing...
[11:55] <erUSUL> !icons
[11:55] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[11:55] <tamacracker> how do i get it back?
[11:55] <cpk2> having a problem with a symlink...
[11:55] <kitche> tamacracker: did you have it before?
[11:56] <tamacracker> kitche yep
[11:56] <cpk2> azureus update azplugins because /home/cpk1/.azureus/plugins/azplugins links to /usr/share/azureus/plugins/azplugins/ should i just remove the link or just give myself permissions there?
[11:56] <kitche> tamacracker: make sure it's mounted
[11:56] <tamacracker> kitche, how?
[11:56] <kitche> tamacracker: just run the mount command
[11:56] <pennypacker> type man mount
[11:56] <cpk2> azureus *cant* update
[11:56] <tamacracker> kitche im not novice nor advanced in linux.... i don't know any commands.
[11:57] <Arrick> ok, new issue
[11:57] <kitche> tamacracker: mount should just show you what is mounted
[11:57] <graveson> gents if you still around this worked :  find /media/usbdisk/music/ -depth  -name '*mp3' -exec cp '{}' /home/khalil/Music/ \;
[11:57] <ace> ok now im confused i just typed something that bot told me to type to retstart x and now i can't turn off my computer without pressing the pwoer button
[11:58] <ace> can someone help me, the onyl option i have after i typed startx is to do the hibernate thingy
[11:58] <ace> and that wont work
[11:58] <tamacracker> i don't see my drive
[11:58] <ace> is it ok just to press the power button?
[11:58] <tamacracker> kitche i dont see my drive
[11:58] <kitche> ace: well you can still turn off your computer but you have to switch to a terminal
[11:58] <bruenig> ace, try this
[11:58] <amonkey> i have an sb card with EMU10k1, when i play sounds through esd it plays them on the sb card,  but when i use alsa or oss, it uses the integrated sound. how can i tell asla/oss to use the sb card?
[11:58] <ace> oo i typed reboot in the terminal thing but it said i have to be a superuser
[11:58] <kitche> tamacracker: ok do you know the drive it's hdb1?
[11:58] <bruenig> ace, go to administration>login window
[11:59] <tamacracker> yeah
[11:59] <tamacracker> kitche yeah it's supposed to be hdb1...?
[11:59] <kitche> ace: well you do but youhave to use sudo
[11:59] <bruenig> ace, after there make sure "show actions menu" is checked
[11:59] <kitche> tamacracker: you know it's filesystem?
[11:59] <ace> ok
[11:59] <Volvo> !icon
[11:59] <ace> use sudo reboot?
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <higen> how do i add a script to the bootup?  is there any neat commandoes that add a script to the rcX.d ?
[11:59] <totall_6_7> what do you mean its missing, did you have it before while running ubuntu??
[11:59] <bruenig> ace, try mine first to see if you can get those icons back
[11:59] <tamacracker> kithce i made it for linux for ubuntu
[11:59] <ace> ok
[11:59] <Volvo> !icons
[11:59] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[11:59] <Sktisangry> This stuff is consuming my life.
[11:59] <tamacracker> kitche the whole drive is for linux only
[11:59] <ace> nope didnt work
[11:59] <bruenig> ace to do it with the terminal it would be sudo shutdown -r now
[11:59] <Volvo> thanks
[11:59] <ace> it still only says hibernate
[11:59] <totall_6_7> ooops i was scrolled up
[12:00] <Arrick> I have setup a default Ubuntu Breezy installation, and I have a phillips cdrw800 that the system recognizes. When i put a disc in the drive, the drive will read the discs, but if I right click on the cd-rom icon, and click on copy disc I get the following error>>>> will post paste in a moment
[12:00] <kitche> tamacracker: ok did you use the mke2fs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 on it?
[12:00] <Arrick> !pastebin
[12:00] <ace> ok let me try that
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:00] <tamacracker> kitche i typed mount... no other commands i typed
[12:00] <kitche> opps tamacracker: it's mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1
[12:00] <kitche> tamacracker: well did you format it is what I m asking
[12:01] <tamacracker> kitche this is what i see: /dev/hdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)