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[05:43] <rideout> was pam changed in some way in edgy? something become messed up with the shadow/users/groups stuff on my install
[05:43] <rideout> i don't know what is out of sync
[05:44] <rideout> but, users i add to groups aren't in them somehow, although they can be seen in /etc/group
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[11:32] <Tonio__> hi all
[11:34] <pascalFR>  bug #63517 
[11:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63517 in kdebase "kcontrol monitor and display settings module cannot start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63517
[11:35] <pascalFR> i think it is confirmed now
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[11:59] <Tonio_> pascalFR: I replied
[11:59] <Tonio_> pascalFR: can you try this command please ?
[11:59] <Tonio_> hi allee
[12:04] <allee> hi Tonio_, SIGLUNCH, bbl ;)
[12:08] <pascalFR> Tonio_:  done :)
[12:15] <Tonio_> pascalFR: hum very strange
[12:15] <Tonio_> pascalFR: so it works i nuser mode but fails as root.....;
[12:15] <Tonio_> pascalFR: do you use xgl ?
[12:26] <pascalFR> Tonio_:  not it doesnt work nor as user nor as root
[12:26] <pascalFR> no xgl
[12:26] <pascalFR> but i remember something about python
[12:26] <pascalFR> i saw lots of python package beeing held back after upgrade
[12:27] <pascalFR> and I apt-get install all of them .... maybe it was a mistake
[12:30] <Tonio_> pascalFR: as you describe, in user mode, you can see the window with the options, but it requires admin mode rights no ,
[12:30] <Tonio_> ?
[12:31] <pascalFR> Tonio_: no  to be more clear  the window says each time that it could not load the module
[12:33] <pascalFR> Tonio_: i've attach the screenshot
[12:34] <Tonio_> hum okay
[12:34] <Tonio_> I must say I don't really understand the issue since I cannot repocude...
[12:35] <Tonio_> I'll ping _Sime concerning this, since he is developping the module
[12:37] <pascalFR> ok thx
[12:38] <pascalFR> i'll check if other modules have problems like that too
[12:45] <pascalFR> i attached my xorg.conf since the error seems to come from parsing the resolutions
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[12:46] <_Sime> "Digital Cameras" is missing from k-s-s.
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[12:47] <kwwii> moin
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[12:52] <Tonio_> yo kwwii
[12:55] <imbrandon> heya Tonio_ and kwwii 
[12:56] <imbrandon> kwwii, have fun at akademy ( no more stents where black eyes come into play )
[12:56] <imbrandon> hehe
[12:59] <kwwii> hehe
[12:59] <kwwii> we came home without injury this time
[12:59] <kwwii> hi Tonio_, imbrandon
[01:00] <imbrandon> ;)
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[01:14] <imbrandon> moins el 
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[01:15] <el> hey imbrandon :)
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[01:16] <Riddell> imbrandon: what happened with koffice?
[01:17] <imbrandon> well it finished finaly that night when i went to bed but it died with the hdd 
[01:17] <imbrandon> ;(
[01:17] <imbrandon> ( along with everything else that wasent on my laptop )
[01:18] <Tonio_> imbrandon: argh ! the point is I deleted the packaged I had done
[01:18] <Tonio_> imbrandon: since you were already on it
[01:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: want me to repack ?
[01:18] <imbrandon> Tonio_, its the same package, i dident make any changes after Riddell did the autoconf
[01:19] <imbrandon> i was just compiling for all the arches and makin sure everthing was installed
[01:19] <Tonio_> imbrandon: yeah I remember.....
[01:19] <Tonio_> imbrandon: ah okay
[01:19] <imbrandon> but when that hdd dies on me the other day ( that i blogged about ) it took all my work also
[01:19] <imbrandon> died*
[01:20] <Tonio_> imbrandon: damn....
[01:20] <el> poor imbrandon ....
[01:20] <Riddell> Tonio_: too late now, we'll just wait for the final thing
[01:20] <Tonio_> imbrandon: the point is I can't build for all archs, just x86
[01:20] <Riddell> imbrandon: ouch
[01:20] <imbrandon> yea kinda what i thought, i've been stuck on my slow laptop the last 2 days
[01:20] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay
[01:20] <Tonio_> imbrandon: raid1 is the key....
[01:21] <imbrandon> Tonio_, well my server is ( and that had all my important stuff ) raid5
[01:21] <Tonio_> that's what I have on my desktop
[01:21] <imbrandon> but not my "working" devel dir
[01:21] <imbrandon> e.g. what ever i'm doing at the moment
[01:21] <Tonio_> imbrandon: yeah I can understand this.... hard to protect everything
[01:22] <imbrandon> but good news i have my ssh keys , gpg etc etc etc , all mail is on the server , etc
[01:22] <Tonio_> hum have to go for an hour... french government doesn't want to pay me for stupid date on a paper issue....
[01:22] <imbrandon> honestly the only thing i lost perminately was my working devel dir that had amarok ( that i already redid ) and koffice
[01:22] <imbrandon> and my revu tiber ssh key
[01:23] <Tonio_> if I don't want to see my credit card erazed, I really have to get that done today.....
[01:23] <imbrandon> ( and the use of my desktop untill the new hdd arrives )
[01:23] <Tonio_> imbrandon: if your motherboard supports raid1, you really should think about it for the future
[01:24] <imbrandon> yea i will sometime in the near future but as i blogged about i woldent even have a new hdd if it wasent for a kind MOTU that spotted me one
[01:25] <imbrandon> for a few weeks that is
[01:25] <imbrandon> but as it is now the new hdd is on the way in the mail and i have my laptop setup for devel stuff untill then
[01:26] <imbrandon> but hopefully by the end of the year i'll be building  a new desktop system with a dualcore and raid 0/1 on 3 drive setup
[01:26] <imbrandon> ;)
[01:27] <imbrandon> Tonio_, http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/09/30/standing-in-awe/
[01:27] <imbrandon> heh
[01:28] <imbrandon> the full story ^^
[01:29] <Tonio_> imbrandon: will read when I'm back :)
[01:30] <imbrandon> woot we find out today if we get sponored for mountain view dont we Riddell 
[01:30] <imbrandon> i just thought about that
[01:32] <Tonio_> imbrandon: yeah we are supposed to have the info today afaik
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[01:32] <imbrandon> heh see ya later Tonio_ 
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[01:40] <Hobbsee> hey gnomefreak 
[01:40] <gnomefreak> hi Hobbsee 
[01:42] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee and gnomefreak 
[01:44] <gnomefreak> hi imbrandon 
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[02:15] <Hobbsee> http://launchpad.net/bugs/63546
[02:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63546 in kde-systemsettings "Display, Disk and Filesystems, Services control modules not loading" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[02:15] <Hobbsee> and a couple of others, iirc
[02:23] <Riddell> Hobbsee: can you confirm that?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> i cant as im upgrading dapper to edgy as we speak
[02:25] <Riddell> I'm also on dapper
[02:26] <Hobbsee> i could confirm similar, i'm not sure about that.  
[02:26] <Hobbsee> Riddell: hmmm.  seems fixed here
[02:26] <Hobbsee> someone was reporting that in here a few days ago.  nixternal or jjesse, maybe
[02:27] <Hobbsee> which i could reproduce at the time
[02:28] <gnomefreak> the 1 issue i still see is the kdevelop-data and kdevelop3 depnds issues
[02:29] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: patches welcome :)
[02:30] <gnomefreak> :(
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[02:32] <gnomefreak> god i hate that error (it means nothing but its annoying)
[02:33] <Riddell> gnomefreak: which depends issues?
[02:33] <gnomefreak> when you install kdevelop-data it has issues with kdevelop3
[02:33] <gnomefreak> i will try it again later for exact error
[02:34] <gnomefreak> Got non-package menu entry kiso.desktop  << is the annoying one but i heard its nothing
[02:34] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/38692
[02:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 38692 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings doesn't load Display, Disk and Filesystems control module" [Medium,Needs info]  
[02:34] <Hobbsee> is the original bug, it seems
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[02:56] <Tonio_> re
[03:00] <kwwii> I have a pic and kdm-xml which fixes a bug in kdm (also need to update the pic for ksplash)
[03:01] <kwwii> the next time someone updates k-d-s it would be good to include it
[03:02] <Tonio_> kwwii: send them to me, I'll upload
[03:03] <Hobbsee> heya
[03:03] <Tonio_> yo Hobbsee ;)
[03:03] <kwwii> Tonio_: cool, will do
[03:03] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/63238 is your bug, i believe
[03:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63238 in kubuntu-default-settings "kubuntu-default-settings fails to install, when foomatic isn't installed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[03:03] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: hum, yeah, true, I need to fix this
[03:03] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:03] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: will fix with kwwii files addition
[03:04] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: but honnestly, who removes foomatic ?
[03:04] <Tonio_> stupid to do this ;)
[03:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:05] <Hobbsee> yeah, well
[03:05] <kwwii> Tonio_: http://bootsplash.org/kdm-ksplash-fix.tar.gz
[03:06] <kwwii> both the files (the pic and the xml) should go in kdm, and the pic should also be copied to ksplash
[03:07] <Tonio_> kwwii: okay I'm doing this right now
[03:08] <Tonio_> kwwii: is there a bug ID concerning the issue fixed
[03:08] <Tonio_> kwwii: 404....... ^^
[03:11] <kwwii> erm, one second
[03:11] <Tonio_> kwwii: yeah no pb
[03:11] <Tonio_> kwwii: will you be in mountain view uds ?
[03:11] <kwwii> hehe, it helps to copy the file as well
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[03:12] <Tonio_> kwwii: lol
[03:12] <kwwii> Tonio_: as of now, I am not invited
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[03:12] <Tonio_> kwwii: ah...
[03:13] <Tonio_> kwwii: should I add a bug ID in the changelog ?
[03:14] <kwwii> https://launchpad.net/bugs/40821
[03:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40821 in kdebase "login dialog font is huge on 147 DPI screen" [Low,Confirmed]  
[03:14] <Tonio_> kwwii: great
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[03:17] <Tonio_> kwwii: uploaded
[03:17] <kwwii> Tonio_: great, thanks :-)
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[03:19] <Tonio_> Jason Becker is a god
[03:20] <kwwii> never heard of him
[03:21] <n8k99> kwwii: i must say again - edgy looks beautiful
[03:22] <Tonio_> n8k99: definitly
[03:22] <kwwii> n8k99: thanks :-) good to hear that you like it
[03:23] <kwwii> I think it was a big step in the right direction
[03:23] <kwwii> but we still have a long way to go :-)
[03:23] <Tonio_> kwwii: true
[03:23] <n8k99> everything seems so much sharper and the color pallet is really nice
[03:27] <kwwii> good words to hear :-)
[03:27] <kwwii> thanks again
[03:27] <n8k99> you are welcome
[03:29] <kwwii> Tonio_: just got the mail from Malone, thanks :-)
[03:30] <Tonio_> kwwii: pleasure
[03:30] <Tonio_> kwwii: did you ask for sponsorship on the wiki ?
[03:32] <kwwii> Tonio_: as I had a contract, no....it would be taken care of internally
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[03:41] <bddebian> Howdy
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[03:46] <Tonio_> yop bddebian
[03:48] <bddebian> Heya Tonio_
[03:50] <Tonio_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg5_mlQOsUQ
[03:50] <Tonio_> HAHAHA ;)
[03:50] <Tonio_> excellent
[03:51] <Tm_T> Tonio_: is that "fishmaster" ?
[03:52] <Tonio_> Tm_T: wishmaster from nightwish
[03:52] <Tonio_> just the mistaken works ;)
[03:52] <Tm_T> yeah, I did remember seen that url before
[03:53] <bddebian> wtf..? :)
[03:53] <Tonio_> bddebian: they changed the clip with mistaken words, but the result is really, really fun :)
[03:54] <Tonio_> I really love my "stupid sunday links"
[03:54] <bddebian> heh
[03:55] <Tonio_> the biggest french informatics news website give a "best of" every sunday, with stupid stuff ;)
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[03:59] <mhb> hello everyone
[04:00] <kwwii> howdy mhb
[04:03] <mhb> I'd like to gather some feedback from you (all) about the idea I had yesterday
[04:05] <mhb> I thought about creating a "Kubuntu Testers" team where the testers (or maybe Kubuntu power users in general) can contact each other, file and confirm bugs etc etc.
[04:06] <mhb> At least I know about some of people that run Edgy for quite a long time but they aren't devs at all
[04:08] <Riddell> do it :)
[04:10] <mhb> Riddell: thanks :o) I'm glad you aren't against it
[04:13] <freeflying> Riddell: will kubuntu has free CDs  :)
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[04:17] <Hawkwind> mhb: That is a great idea. I'd surely be interested in being on the team and helping set it up or whatever in any way that I can
[04:20] <mhb> Hawkwind: thanks :o) I appreciate it
[04:24] <Hobbsee> mhb: where else would you file bugs?  apart from malone
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[04:30] <mhb> Hobbsee: bugs.kde.org sometimes, I guess ... but filing kubuntu bugs in malone would be the primary objective
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[04:30] <Hobbsee> mhb: good point
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[04:33] <mhb> Hobbsee: we can help the bug hunting squad "indirectly" - that means confirm the bugs, provide more information,strace/gdb output etc.
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[04:43] <Riddell> freeflying: looks like amarok dist-upgrade issue is something to do with python-qt3
[04:44] <freeflying> Riddell: and many python packages can not be installed automatically
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[05:50] <Hawkwind> Has there been an agreement and finalization of date/time for the next Kubuntu meeting yet ?
[05:50] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I should hang you for ever mentioning supertuxkart.  I built it last night and played it a bit.  Now I'm addicted
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Did you get my ping yesterday?
[05:51] <jdong> would anyone like to do a quick ktorrent fix for me?
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Which one ?
[05:51] <Hawkwind> jdong: Fix for what exactly ?
[05:51] <Riddell> Hawkwind: next thursday, although we should check if that clashes with distro meeting
[05:51] <jdong> Hawkwind: i need ktshell to be called with bash and not sh
[05:51] <jdong> it's broken with dash :-/
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: http://www.getdeb.net/
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[05:51] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I also built dreamchess and the newest bluefish which is 1.0.6
[05:51] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Ah yeah.  I saw that.  I built my own for my repo :P
[05:52] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: But I'm now addicted to that game.  It's awesome.  I'm not much of a gamer either anymore which makes it worse
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know :) Should be nice once gnomefreak gets it included in source-o-matic
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Told you that it was well done :)
[05:53] <Hawkwind> Riddell: Seems the only thing on the 11th is the Edubuntu meeting
[05:55] <Riddell> well we'd be the 5th
[05:57] <Hawkwind> Ohhh, I was thinking 'next Thursday' meaning as in next week.  Which would actually be the 12th anyways.  Darn math 
[05:57] <nixternal> Riddell: the display, user, and disk bug was confirmed by myself and fdoving - bug 62223
[05:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62223 in kde-guidance "Monitor & Display, User Management, Disk & Filesystems - All Broken" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62223
[05:57] <nixternal> i still don't have any of those functions
[05:58] <Riddell> nixternal: do you have kde-guidance installed?
[05:59] <nixternal> from the looks of it i do
[06:00] <nixternal>  /usr/share/apps/guidance
[06:00] <nixternal>  /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance
[06:06] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: -once + if
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[06:07] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: Would it be more productive to get someone else to look at it?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> or is it just not up to you?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: cant the person that runs the site will ping me about it
[06:08] <gnomefreak> i wanted it to have more testing before i brought it back up to him so i pinged him a little while ago about it
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Ok What's the requirements before it can pass muster for source-o-matic?
[06:10] <gnomefreak> would like it to be fairly stable for one. which i have found it to be. but pretty much up to him what he wants to do with it.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> nixternal: hi!
[06:10] <Riddell> nixternal: do the apps run from the command line?  (mountconfig, displayconfig, userconfig)
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[06:12] <fdoving> Riddell: yes.
[06:12] <Riddell> fdoving: but not in system settings?
[06:13] <fdoving> Riddell: correct.
[06:13] <fdoving> not in kcontrol either.
[06:13] <Riddell> fdoving: do you have the latest libpythonize0 installed?
[06:13] <fdoving>   Installed: 0.4.0-3
[06:13] <nixternal> userconfig is the only one that works from the command line
[06:14] <fdoving> all the apps run from commandline here.
[06:14] <fdoving> but not the kcm modules. just the apps.
[06:14] <fdoving> 'kcmshell module' doesn't work.
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[06:17] <_Sime> fdoving: any error messages?
[06:18] <fdoving> _Sime: the ones in the bug report. bug 62223
[06:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62223 in kde-guidance "Monitor & Display, User Management, Disk & Filesystems - All Broken" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62223
[06:19] <_Sime> fdoving: to me it looks like the wrong python version is being used. Esp since it says that it can't find that module.
[06:20] <fdoving> might be, i have whatever is in edgy.
[06:20] <fdoving> _Sime: Python 2.4.4c0 (#2, Sep 29 2006, 19:31:08)
[06:20] <fdoving> that's 'python'
[06:21] <fdoving> which is a symlink to /usr/bin/python2.4
[06:24] <fdoving> changing the symlink to /usr/bin/python2.5 doesn't change anything.
[06:24] <Riddell> 2.4 is the default in edgy
[06:26] <fdoving> http://rafb.net/paste/results/n3sYk290.html
[06:26] <fdoving> that's the output of 'kcmshell displayconfig'
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[06:32] <Hawkwind> Isn't there another bug on this kcmshell displayconfig stuff for Dapper as well since it crashes on Dapper too
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[06:55] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Where does it crash on dapper?
[07:01] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Same way when you run it from a terminal
[07:02] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: There is a bug report on LP about it in Dapper, and it's got quite a few replies.  I just don't remember the bug number
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[07:04] <Riddell> hi oofus 
[07:05] <DaSkreech> oofus?
[07:08] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: you scared him away ;(
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[07:10] <DaSkreech> Ha ha !
[07:10] <DaSkreech> I inticed as well!
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Enticed :-(
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[07:14] <mhb> OK, so https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-testers is up, the next thing to do is probably to get a mailing list ... has anyone experience with that? What is the fastest way to get a mailing list (preferably on lists.ubuntu.com)?
[07:16] <Riddell> mhb: just use kubuntu-devel
[07:17] <mhb> Riddell: OK then, if it gets too flooded (not probable in the near future), tell me
[07:18] <Riddell> mhb: make a wiki page, explain what activities you hope kubuntu-testers can do
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[07:18] <Riddell> then announce on kubuntu-devel and #kubuntu and see who signs up
[07:18] <mhb> ok
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[07:21] <Riddell> yay :)
[07:21] <jdong|laptop> how do I focus the konq search bar via keyboard
[07:22] <jdong|laptop> ctrl+S does not work as advertised
[07:22] <jdong|laptop> I've pressed it 500 times already, and my search bar is still not focused
[07:22] <jdong|laptop> i think I'm getting carpal tunnel
[07:24] <Riddell> Lathiat: ping
[07:25] <jdong|laptop> hmm, setting it to ctrl+k makes it work
[07:25] <jdong|laptop> is that a bug then?
[07:38] <jdong|laptop> http://vigor.sourceforge.net/screenshots/
[07:38] <jdong|laptop> That is just.... wrong....
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Is the Hardware Database a pointer to knoware?
[07:45] <Riddell> to hwdb-kde
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Right but does anyone but me remember knoware?
[07:46] <Riddell> no
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Blast :) It was a SOC project that was brilliant :)
[07:46] <DaSkreech> and the first step was a hardware Daabase
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Lemme see if I can find the Mentor
[07:47] <DaSkreech> http://developer.kde.org/summerofcode/knoware.html was the write up for it
[07:49] <DaSkreech> It would be a killer app for KDE :)
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[08:26] <jdong> imbrandon / Tonio_: would either of you be free to do a simple ktorrent fix for me?
[08:46] <mhb> hm ... (this is really not the best place to ask, but) how can you add a Wiki: URL  entry in your LP team account? I can't seem to find the right place where to set it up ...
[08:50] <Tonio_> jdong: what is the issue ?
[08:50] <jdong> Tonio_: ktshell needs to use /bin/bash as interpretor, not /bin/sh
[08:50] <jdong> dash isn't advanced enough to handle it
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[08:50] <jdong> should be a pretty trivial patch
[08:50] <Tonio_> jdong: probably yes
[08:52] <Tonio_> jdong: what kind of issues does this cause ?
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[08:52] <jdong> Tonio_: the ktshell script doesn't work
[08:52] <Hawkwind> mhb: Oh really ?
[08:52] <jdong> (ktshell uses dcop at the command line to control ktorrent)
[08:52] <jdong> good for ssh'ing and messing with your torrents when you're supposed to be working!
[08:53] <mhb> yes, https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/2369
[08:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 2369 in launchpad "Some people don't have a Ubuntu WikiName" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[08:53] <Tonio_> jdong: changing sh to bash resolves the issue ?
[08:53] <jdong> Tonio_: yes
[08:53] <Tonio_> jdong: best would be that you report a bug, so that I can justify the fix :)
[08:53] <jdong> Tonio_: a bug's already in the database for it
[08:53] <Tonio_> jdong: which bug ID ?
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[08:54] <Tonio_> I'm just writing the patch
[08:54] <jdong> bug 61324
[08:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61324 in ktorrent "ktshell does not run with dash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/61324
[08:54] <jdong> upstream's doing the same in SVN, though I don't think we'll see another release before 2.1, which isn't much of an edgy candidate at this point
[08:55] <Tonio_> jdong: true
[08:55] <Tonio_> jdong: we'll patch and remove the patch with next releast
[08:56] <Tonio_> jdong: I'm just patching, closing the bug and uploading
[08:56] <Tonio_> thanks for the info
[08:56] <jdong> Tonio_: that sounds good . thanks
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[09:53] <DaSkreech> Just occured to me that we have a Debian trash
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[10:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: ping ?
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[11:04] <marseillai_> Tonio_: do you have a minute ?
[11:05] <DaSkreech> heehee
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[11:10] <Tonio_> marseillai_: yeah
[11:10] <marseillai_> yep
[11:10] <marseillai_> i've got a problem with flash in konqueror
[11:11] <marseillai_> i've install it, it works in firefox, i've make an update for module in konqueror (with little dirty modification to make it works) but it still don't work fine in konqueror
[11:12] <marseillai_> i've to change ~/.mozilla/pluggins into ~/.mozilla in order to make kde see my flash pluggin
[11:12] <marseillai_> but when i try youtube in firefox it works fine (without sound but it's enough to me) but not in konqueror
[11:14] <Tonio_> marseillai_: do you see the module in the modules list in konq ?
[11:15] <marseillai_> Tonio_:  i only see libgcjwebplugin
[11:15] <marseillai_> euh
[11:15] <marseillai_> in fact yes i see it
[11:15] <marseillai_> i've got two pluggins
[11:15] <Tonio_> sounds normal
[11:15] <Tonio_> do you have a free implementation of flash installed ?
[11:16] <marseillai_> one in ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer and one in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so
[11:16] <marseillai_> don't think so i've only this one
[11:17] <Tonio_> marseillai_: do you see it in the list of detected modules  ?
[11:17] <Tonio_> you can see that in konqueror configuration
[11:18] <marseillai_> Tonio_: see what ? the two i've told you? yes it's in there that i look
[11:19] <Tonio_> marseillai_: en pv stp :)
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[11:19] <marseillai> excuse gt pas register
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[11:40] <ryanakca_> Tonio_: what's happening with qcomicbook?
[11:41] <Tonio_> ryanakca_: hum, what do you mean ?
[11:41] <Tonio_> it has been added, and that's it
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[11:43] <Tonio_> ryanakca_: you can apt-get install it, that works
[11:44] <Tonio_> ryanakca_: hum,  did check the deps.......
[11:44] <Tonio_> unrar-nonfree
[11:45] <Tonio_> ryanakca_: does it "depend on" unrar-nonfree to work ?
[11:46] <Tonio_> ryanakca_: those deps should be "recommended" afaik
[11:49] <Riddell> Tonio_: pong
[11:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: digikam has been approved, so we have to change the seeds
[11:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: do you have a tuto concerning this ? I'd like to learn that part
[11:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: s/approved/"approved to main" ;)
[11:54] <Tonio_> Riddell: afaics, I just have to change kubuntu-desktop source package and had digikam in i386, amd64 and ppc sections, but as I can't see digikam in main for the moment, I'd like to understand how that works
[11:54] <Riddell> Tonio_: https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-seeds
[11:54] <gnomefreak> does amarok use apt to get mp3 support?
[11:54] <Tonio_> will digikam go to main when kubuntu-desktop is built or do we have to wait to see it in main to change this ?
[11:55] <Tonio_> gnomefreak: yes it does
[11:55] <Riddell> Tonio_: Code link -> Kubuntu Edgy Seeds 
[11:55] <Riddell> bzr checkout paste
[11:55] <gnomefreak> figured
[11:55] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:55] <Riddell> Tonio_: but s/http/sftp/
[11:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay I'm looking
[11:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: so if my understanding is correct, once the seeds are modified, digikam will go to main right ?
[11:59] <Riddell> Tonio_: nope
[11:59] <Riddell> two other things
[11:59] <Riddell> so modify seeds, bzr commit
[12:00] <Riddell> then apt-get source kubuntu-meta
[12:00] <Riddell> install debootstrap and germinate
[12:00] <Riddell> run ./update
[12:00] <Riddell> and dput the updated meta package
[12:00] <Tonio_> hum okay, that makes sense
[12:01] <Riddell> then you need to ask an elite person to promote the packages to main
[12:01] <Riddell> specify all the binary and source packages needed and that pitti has approved them
[12:01] <Tonio_> who to contact to ? mdz ?
[12:01] <Riddell> that's it, then you have to check the daily CDs to next day to see if we've gone over sized
[12:02] <Riddell> Tonio_: mdz or kamion or keybuk
[12:02] <Tonio_> okay
[12:02] <Tonio_> so we're uploading before promoting the packages to main ?
[12:02] <mdz> Tonio_: wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue
[12:02] <Tonio_> mdz: yes I know this, I've done main inclusion reports and pitti already approved them
[12:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay I'm reading the wiki page concerning seeds modification
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