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lupine_85have you added yourself to the group?12:13
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cpk2lupine_85: yeah, did that when i made it12:14
lupine_85peculiar12:14
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cpk2lupine_85: groups doesnt show the group, i think i need to relog?12:15
lupine_85shouldn't need to12:15
cpk2lupine_85: well the users and accounts gui shows me in the group but "groups" doesnt have it listed12:16
lupine_85maybe the silly GUI hasn't written the changes yet?12:16
cpk2well its taking it sweet time =\12:17
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lupine_85maybe you need to shut the GUI down?12:18
cpk2it has been =\12:18
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cpk2i closed it and opened it to double check it12:19
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digivorehow do i run a program that i don't install through adept or synaptic?  just one that i download froma webiste?12:27
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Admiral_Chicagodigivore, you probably have to compile from source12:30
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Admiral_Chicagowhat program is it?12:31
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digivore!bowser12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bowser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
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digivorei have this 'bowser' thing in my 'internet' menu,   and it has no icon and i have no idea what it is.     anyone seen this before?12:39
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axiombowser?12:40
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NeoSakiWell, Bowser is the boss in the Mario series by Nintendo12:40
digivorewhen i type it into terminal i get:12:40
digivoreCan't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)12:40
NeoSakiHe is normally seen as taking Princess Peach from her castle in Mushroom Kingdom12:40
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NeoSakiSounds like its a database browser12:42
digivoreann it was a news leecher..12:42
NeoSakior that12:42
NeoSaki:D12:42
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NeoSakianyone know how to make a Linksys Wireless-G USB Adapter(WUSB54GC) work in Kubuntu?12:43
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couquinouxfranais?12:43
digivore!fr12:43
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:43
cpk2i seem to have lost the logout button for kde12:44
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cpk2or maybe I never had one?12:44
NeoSaki!wifi12:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:44
DaSkreechHawkwind: PIng12:45
HawkwindDaSkreech: Pong12:45
DaSkreechApparently SuperTuxkart put back up the binary :)12:46
HawkwindDaSkreech: Oh nice!12:46
DaSkreechUnfortunnately it doesn't work on my other computer :(12:46
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HawkwindDaSkreech: What link is the binary on ?  I'm not seeing it on the downloads page12:47
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digivoreI want to be able to control my windows machine over my network,  sort of like remote desktop ...  any ideas?12:47
DaSkreechVNC12:48
digivore!vnc12:48
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.12:48
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digivorethx12:48
Dr_willisvnc can do that very nicely12:48
Dr_willisfor a vnc server for windows - i tend to use the 'ultravnc' server12:49
HawkwindDaSkreech: Got a link to the binary ?12:49
DaSkreechun momemt12:49
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Dr_willisIf you can see both machines/monitors - you can use 'syngery' to 'move the mouse' and use the keyboard on the other machine.12:49
illmatikhi, im trying to boot kubuntu from CD for the first time, when its loading the files, i get an I/O error about maybe 25% through12:50
DaSkreechHawkwind: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=276512:50
illmatikive tried burning it twice12:50
illmatikand i did the data check thing as well12:50
DaSkreechillmatik: Try it on a different computer12:50
HawkwindDaSkreech: Ohhh, that was there last night actually12:50
Admiral_Chicagocpk2, i can't hibernate on my edgy set up12:50
DaSkreechIf it works then try reburning it at a slower rate12:50
HawkwindDaSkreech: That's exactly where I downloaded the .tar.bz2 file from actually12:50
illmatikim getting a laptop soon but i wanted to give it a try on my main PC...why wouldnt it work on it, its pretty up to date12:51
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DaSkreechHawkwind: When I went there the other night the source was there not the binary12:51
HawkwindDaSkreech: Strange.  As I downloaded the bin file last night in fact along with the source12:51
illmatikthanks ill try that12:52
PoundexHi, I have a couple of questions about the Edgy beta. How stable is it atm? and when the next beta/final version is released will i have to re-download the ISO and reinstall, or will it simply be a case of updating packages?12:52
DaSkreechHawkwind: ah ok. Tried the .deb?12:52
DaSkreech!schedule12:52
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:52
HawkwindDaSkreech: Not yet.  I went to the Houston Texans vs. Miami Dolphins football game today here in Houston so I just got back home not long ago12:53
Admiral_ChicagoPoundex, you can update it by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list12:53
Linux_GalorePoundex: I will tell you how stable a beta release is if you can confirm hacking your leg off hurts12:53
DaSkreechPoundex: It's stable enough that I use it at work (i'm slightly crazy) and yes you can just update to the new version12:53
Admiral_Chicagohow can I search repos from the command line12:53
couquinouxqui peut m'aider  installer ine quickcam logitec pour l'utiliser dans msn?12:53
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: apt-cache search12:53
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: apt-cache search or apt-cache policy12:53
DaSkreech!fr12:53
Admiral_ChicagoHawkwind, i know it was something like that12:53
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:53
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Or even apt-cache madison12:53
Poundexthanks12:54
cpk2<--- lost "logout" option for kde, sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop doesnt seem to remember how many desktops I have and its kind of annoying having to configure everything when i login12:54
DaSkreechcouquinoux: French?12:54
cpk2shouldnt logout be in the kde menu?12:55
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Dr_willisit is in mine.12:56
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Linux_Galorelogout can be in your menu or on your taskbar, it can even be on your desktop12:56
Dr_williscpk2,  make a new user.. see if it shows up in their  K menu.12:56
cpk2Dr_willis: good idea heh12:57
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NeoSakiIf I got the Desktop CD is Firefox included on the cd? or do I need to get a package CD from somewhere?12:57
maurycyno, U must install firefox12:58
Linux_GaloreNeoSaki: its very easy to add software12:58
NeoSakiI know how12:58
Dr_willisVery very very easy,,,, trivial in fact.12:58
Dr_willis:P12:58
Dr_willissince it auto downloads. :)12:58
NeoSakiI mean if I don't have net access on the desktop because the only way to access the net is to open my net browser and agree to some flippin terms from the hotel I'm staying in12:59
Linux_GaloreNeoSaki: you have to understand kubuntu is a kde destkop enviroment and as such konqueror is the default browser12:59
Dr_willisI do find it odd that they dont include firefox.. but i got my own set of install_extra_things scripts that i run on any new install12:59
maurycyhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper12:59
NeoSakiBut! The terms are not able to be pulled up by Konqueror12:59
cpk2err whats the cli to add a user? the gui doesnt seem to want to give me the prompt to entry my root pw12:59
NeoSaki>_>12:59
Dr_willisadduser, or is it useradd01:00
Linux_GaloreNeoSaki: you can open a term inside konqueror01:00
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Dr_willisHe means the "Terms of Agreement"01:00
maurycyif U need root01:00
maurycyuse sudo -s -H in term01:00
NeoSaki...01:01
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Dr_willisIve seen isps do that befor - often theres some sort of dns trick that sends every address  to a site for the EULA/Terms of USsage01:01
sorush20hi ..01:01
NeoSakiyeah01:01
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NeoSakibut for some reason Konqueror isn't compatable01:01
sorush20my kubuntu download keeps dying..01:01
sorush20are there any http dowloads?01:01
sorush20or just ftps?01:01
NeoSakibut Firefox is, because that is what I use on my windows partition01:01
Dr_willisMy isp does that for new machines..  had to fight with it once when i was using a router.01:01
NeoSakiIts gay01:01
sorush20Dr_willis: what that to me?01:02
Dr_willisNeoSaki,   boot to windows.. find that url that gets to that eula page.. jog down the address.. also get the ip# of the address.01:02
NeoSakiV_V I suppose I can find some paper01:02
NeoSakilol01:02
Admiral_Chicagosorush20, kubuntuorg01:02
Dr_willisNeoSaki,  then try to go to the http://ip#.of.the.site/whatever/eula.poo01:02
Dr_willisfrom within linux.01:02
Linux_GaloreIm just wondering can you install the mozila-firefox-linux  binary in Kubuntu from a cd without any deps01:02
Dr_willisalternatively - try to get konqueror to identify as firefox, or IE.01:03
Admiral_ChicagoLinux_Galore, sudo apt-get install firefox01:03
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: with any internet01:03
Linux_Galorewithout*01:03
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  he cant GET to the internet. :P is firefox on the kubuntu cd at all..01:03
sorush20Admiral_Chicago: what ?01:03
maurycyas i remember firefox isn't on CD01:04
Dr_williswell he can get to the internet.. sort of.. :P lol01:04
Dr_willisalmost..01:04
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, i i think it installs stock01:04
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Dr_willisthe Ubuntu cd - has firefox.. not sure bout Kubuntu01:05
Linux_GaloreNeoSaki: try downloading the Linux binary in windows or via the live ubuntu cd (it has firefox) then install the binary in kubuntu via a thumb drive or cd01:05
sorush20how do I use jigsaw download sofware to kubuntu ?01:05
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Linux_Galorejust has another idea, download the ubuntu cd and set it up as a repo for kubuntu and install forefox01:06
cpk2Dr_willis: I am missing the whole actions area =\01:06
maurycyi just check01:06
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maurycyyes, firefox is on CD01:06
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Dr_williscpk2,  odd.. could remove the .kde* settings and reset ya user to defaults01:06
Admiral_ChicagoLinux_Galore, try searching packages.ubuntu.org01:07
Linux_GaloreAdmiral_Chicago: I dont have a problem01:07
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cpk2if i got rid of them there must be a way to put them back =P01:08
Linux_Galorecpk2: ?? this in konqueror01:08
cpk2in the kmenu01:08
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Dr_williscpk2,  I dont even knwo how you could get rid of them,01:09
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Linux_Galorecpk2: always just remove the rc file for kmenu01:09
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cpk2Linux_Galore: eh?01:09
Linux_Galorecpk2: logout and back in and the menu should go back to the default01:09
cpk2Linux_Galore: what rc file?01:10
Linux_Galorecpk2: in kde everything has a rc file under ~/.kde/01:10
Linux_Galorecpk2: were do you think all the savings are saved01:10
Linux_Galoresettings*01:11
cpk2well there isnt very much in .kde01:11
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Linux_Galorecpk2: ~/.kde/share/config01:12
cpk2so just remove kmenueditrc?01:12
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Linux_Galorecpk2: or just rename it whatever_bak01:12
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cpk2well here goes01:14
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DaSkreechHawkwind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25450/01:14
DaSkreechThat's my error message :(01:14
Linux_Galorecpk2: thats the menu editor it wont effect anything01:15
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Admiral_Chicagocan someone help me...i forgot my kwalletmanager password01:15
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Move or delete ~/.kde/share/apps/kwalletmanager and it will reset everything01:16
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DaSkreechHawkwind: Including which passwords you saved?01:16
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Actually that's ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet01:16
HawkwindDaSkreech: I believe so.  I've done that before and it reset everything01:17
DaSkreechneat :)01:17
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Admiral_Chicagoone more, how can I edit Kopete to look more like Gaim, i don't like the way my buddy list looks01:17
HawkwindAdmiral_Chicago: Use gaim, which is better IMO :P01:17
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DaSkreechYeah Kopete just always barely saves it's butt01:18
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DaSkreechIt's really a young IM clinet01:18
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Admiral_Chicagogot it. configure appearence >> contact list >>01:20
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Admiral_Chicagocontact display mode >> detailed01:20
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cpk2Linux_Galore: didnt work, didnt even make a new kmenueditrc01:20
cpk2however I found out ctrl alt delete gives me a logout menu and stuff01:21
Linux_Galorecpk2: duh thats the config file for the menu editor01:21
Linux_Galorecpk2: just run the menu editor and set it back to the defaults01:21
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cpk2kmenueditor doesnt have a "defaults" that i can see01:24
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sorush20I have windows installed first  .. evertime I try to install grub it happenes with out any problems but I still can' t get grub to boot01:25
KrAmMeR_does anyone have a problem with adept getting locked?01:26
DaSkreechHawkwind: Hah ahaha01:27
DaSkreechHawkwind: You got beat http://www.getdeb.net/01:28
DaSkreechKrAmMeR_: From time to time01:31
KrAmMeR_how do you fix that?01:31
KrAmMeR_cuz i cant download any packages01:31
KrAmMeR_cuz it says its locked01:31
KrAmMeR_i tried to kill the process01:32
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DaSkreechKrAmMeR_: And all adept processes are dead?01:35
DaSkreechtry sudo apt-get update --configure -a from the command line01:36
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CainMadnessHas anyone seen AWOS on lately>?01:38
CainMadness*?01:38
KrAmMeR_DaSkreech: that worked01:38
KrAmMeR_thanks01:38
DaSkreechSure01:39
DaSkreech!seen awos01:39
ubotuI haven't seen awos recently01:39
DaSkreechNope01:39
CainMadnessHmm.01:39
Conhe!nvidia01:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:39
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CainMadness!seen awosdev01:40
ubotuI last saw AWOSDev (n=awilcox@67-22-96-243.atlsfl.adelphia.net) 3h 15m 37s ago, quiting: "Konversation terminated!"01:40
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CainMadnessThought I forgot a part of his SN.01:40
jmichaelxi have an older pci nvidia graphics card in a PC, but i cannot get x to start using the kubuntu live CD... would anyone know how to get around this? the card is a geforce mx 400001:42
joshua__I don't know about the live CD but I have a GeForce MX4000 PCI in my computer with edgy and it's working nicely01:44
joshua__you will need to use either the nv or nvidia driver01:44
jmichaelxmaybe i just need to download edgy...01:44
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joshua__depending if the live CD has the binary nvidia module or not...01:45
joshua__edgy seems fairly stable so go for it01:45
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sorush20is there a resume function on downloading iso images?01:50
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twenty2sixtyhi! can anyone name me a gui-tool (an editor) that can search for - say, the occurence of a text-string - not only in 1 document, but in a whole folder of docs?01:52
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DaSkreechsorush20: how were you downloading it?01:53
DaSkreechtwenty2sixty: Umm GuiGrep? :-)01:53
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joshua__sorush20: try using wget's -c option01:55
twenty2sixtyDaSkreech: It is not in my repos ... Is it not a part of (K)ubuntu?01:56
DaSkreechtwenty2sixty: Oh it doesn't exist. :)01:56
DaSkreechI guess  Quanta might do that01:56
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digivoredo i need to install and configure samba before i get a VNC connection working?01:58
joshua__twenty2sixty: if you're using kubuntu you can just use the Find Files/Folders (look in the K Menu)01:58
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joshua__digivore: VNC doesn't rely on samba01:59
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digivoretrying to view my windows machine from my kubuntu.   installed the windows version of tightvnc server onthe windows machine.01:59
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joshua__do you get an error message when connecting vnc client to the windows machine?02:01
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joshua__also make sure that windows firewall isn't blocking the tcp port (I think it's 5900 or 5800)02:02
digivorevncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: No route to host02:02
digivoreUnable to connect to VNC server02:02
digivorei want to be typing in the IP address of the windows machine right?02:03
joshua__are you able to ping the machine?02:03
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joshua__I would think it's the windows firewall02:03
MattKrassI hope I don't get shot for this, but how well do fifth gen ipods mix with kubuntu02:05
jmichaelxcan edgy be used as a live CD?02:06
jmichaelxat this point...02:06
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NeoSakijmichaelx: yes02:06
jmichaelxMattKrass: i have used my 5th gen ipod with kubuntu02:06
jmichaelxNeoSaki: ty02:06
NeoSakinpo02:07
twenty2sixtyjoshua_: Is this able to search inside plaintext-files?02:08
MattKrassjmichaelx: how well does it work? is it a hack or natively supported? what software did you use it with?02:08
joshua__it claims to match files with certain contents02:09
NeoSakiMattKrass: What exactly do you want it to do?02:09
MattKrassdownload legal music and movies to it02:09
MattKrassstill trying to find an open source iTMS02:09
NeoSakiMattKrass: AmaroK should connect to your iPod just fine02:09
joshua__it only shows the first matching line of each file though02:10
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morghanphoenixAmaroK works great with the iPod, but I'm not sure what you need to access the music store.02:11
NeoSaki!ipod02:11
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto02:11
NeoSaki!itms02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about itms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
NeoSaki:S02:11
NeoSakiI tried :D02:11
MattKrassdarn02:12
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morghanphoenixAlso try looking at GTKpod, not as slick as AmaroK, but still a nice iPod updater.02:12
MattKrassto be fair I could probably grab a lot of music off the campus network (clarkson u) but I'd rather not limit myself to not02:12
MattKrassbeing able to buy02:12
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NeoSakiyou could use the crossover office02:13
NeoSakito do it >_>02:13
morghanphoenixI've seen sites where you can buy MP3s and download them from the web with no software interface.02:13
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MattKrassI suppose...02:14
MattKrasshow much is that again?02:14
MattKrassand does itunes/cedega work well? if I'm gonna pay for it I might as well get my games running too02:14
DaSkreechMattKrass: emusic?02:15
larson9999my favorite p2p site is the public library!02:15
DaSkreechMattKrass: And Umm Magnatune I think02:15
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morghanphoenixI like the library, and ktorrent, and frostwire etc.02:15
MattKrassemusic/magnatune?02:15
digivore_how can i ping a range of ip addresses?02:16
DaSkreechnearly open and free stores02:16
DaSkreechdigivore_ For loop?02:16
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graftwhy do yo uwant to ping a range if ip address?02:16
graftergh... typos02:17
morghanphoenixI wish my iPod was older, I'd install linux on it, it'd be so nice to have ogg support on my iPod.02:17
MattKrassI mostly use my itunes account for TV shows though02:17
MattKrasshence the video ipod and wanting to be able to play secured tv eps02:17
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digivore_wireless network to see if anyone is on it.02:17
MattKrassand beign able to buy them too..02:17
NeoSakiHe's Wardriving !02:17
NeoSaki:d02:17
NeoSakilol02:17
graftum... can't you just scan for ARP packets, etc.?02:18
graftmuch safer that way - passive02:18
digivore_how would i do that?02:18
graftethereal02:18
NeoSakiactually I need to find out how to find the wireless network around me02:18
NeoSaki!wifi02:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:18
digivore_yah i tried ethereal a bit, but only came up with my own traffic.02:19
graft/sbin/iwlist <interface> scan02:19
morghanphoenixI keep my SSID broadcast off and wep on.02:19
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graftdigivore_: in promiscuous mode?02:19
digivore_i believe it was promiscuous mode....02:19
graftdigivore_: if other people are on the network, ethereal will definitely show it - i've watched people's traffic before, seen what html pages they were downloading, etc.02:19
graftand it'll definitely show ARP requests02:20
digivore_graft: i will try this right now02:21
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MattKrassanyone have a price for crossover office? or know if cedega can run itunes?02:21
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digivore_some NICs can't do promiscuous mode right?02:22
NeoSakiMattKrass: $4002:23
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graftyeh02:23
graftbut most can02:23
NeoSakibut it allows you to run alot of software02:23
graftyou ought to get an error if you cant02:23
NeoSakiCedega is a headache02:23
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NeoSakianyone know how to setup a wireless network using a MAC address of the router?02:24
graftNeoSaki: howzat?02:24
MattKrassalright one last question02:24
MattKrassCOO, can that ru ngames like cedega can?02:25
morghanphoenixIt work for commercial windows games too?02:25
NeoSakiYes you can run commercial games in Crossover02:26
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NeoSakifrom windows02:26
NeoSakihttp://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/cat/?cat_id=202:26
NeoSakitheres the list02:26
NeoSakibrb, going to reboot02:26
MattKrasscool02:27
MattKrassbut I found something else interesting02:27
MattKrasssupposedly there's a linux iTMS "client" called sharpmusique02:28
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larson9999i don't run too many windows programs but wine runs everything i need.02:38
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ubuntuhello I would like to share a folder called trc, like this sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/New -o urd = ubuntu , but i just recieve information is something wrong02:50
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tony_Is there any way that i can Rest file folder permission to what was originally when i installed Ubuntu ????02:54
tony_Rest =  Reset02:55
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ubuntuhello I would like to share a folder called trc, like this sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/New -o urd = ubuntu , but i just recieve information is something wrong02:55
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tony_Is there any way that i can Reset file folder permission to what was originally when i installed Ubuntu ????02:57
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thewheatIs any utilities to check a Mac HFS drive that is connected via target mode to an non-Mac machine running kubuntu?03:03
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hoboitony no there is no memory as to what they were as far as i know03:04
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davidI'm trying to write to my xp drive and this is the line that i wrote in my fstab, "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    auto user exec rw,umask=007,gid=46 0       1", can someone tell me whats wrong?03:06
hoboidavid  did you mount it03:08
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davidbefore i changed ti it mounted fine, after i changed it when i goto the mount point its empty03:10
OmarHello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu03:10
OmarPls I just need to know how to have more permissions03:11
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hoboidavid  so mount does not complain and  df -k  shows it mounted03:13
hoboidavid  do   df -k and make sure it is not mounted twice03:14
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OmarHello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu03:18
OmarHello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu03:18
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hoboiOmar: did the mount fail03:18
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Omarhoboi: no I mounted it03:20
Omarhoboi: normally03:20
Omarhoboi: but I can-t move -em03:20
Omarhoboi: no premissions03:20
Omarhoboi: both disks are mounted maybe the other one is the problem right03:21
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hoboiOmar: since i am not currently running  ubuntu distro tell me what  urd=ubuntu  does.  my mount man page does not show it03:22
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Omarhoboi: this is what I did  to mount the first disco: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot03:23
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Dr_willishmm.. i cant recall eever using   cifs03:23
Omarhoboi: should I put something else,03:23
hoboiOmar: what are the permsissions of  New and the uid and owner of New03:23
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Omarurd=ubuntu also03:24
Omarhoboi: urd=ubuntu also03:24
hoboiOmar: are u using   sudo  cp ...03:24
Omarhoboi: yes03:25
Omarhoboi: tell me how to unmount this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot03:25
Omarhoboi: and how to mount it wiht permissiones03:26
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hoboiOmar:  umount /mnt/ubunturoot  to unmount  but that may not be your problem03:27
hoboiOmar: what error r u getting03:27
tony_I have two partition, one xp other ubuntu.. can i reinstall ubuntu without damaging xp ?03:27
Omarhoboi: Access denied to /mnt/ubunturoot/home/omar/Libros03:28
hoboiOmar: do you have such a directory03:28
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Omarhoboi: yes sure03:29
hoboitony_: should be able to as long as you tell ubuntu to install over the existing ubuntu03:29
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tony_thanks.. this permission thing withlinux is frustrting03:29
tony_my Grub will be the same or do i have to modify it somewhat ??03:30
hoboitony_:  permissions take a little getting use to03:30
tobias__SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO);03:30
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tobias__oh03:30
tony_developers need to make it much easier03:30
tobias__wrong window03:30
hoboitony_: your grub will be overwritten by the installer and it should look as it does now03:30
tony_thanks.. im back to same place as last week.. ((( pulling my hair out )))03:31
hoboitony_: actually it is as easy as i can remember in 14 years03:31
Omarhoboi: yes sure03:31
Omarhoboi: I need to know how to mount with all permissions03:31
hoboitony_: better expunge the XP and stay w/ub03:31
tony_yes.. i use ftp program for window , there i can change permssion of my file and folder, ( linux server ) and window it shows the permission number such as  775 etc03:31
tony_i think that would be a better idea03:32
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hoboiOmar: the permissions are determined by the receiving directorys permissions and ownership03:32
tony_thats where the problme is ..03:32
hoboiOmar: what are the perms of  Libros03:32
tony_there are users and groups03:32
tony_yet there is no descriptive guide as to what they do and how they effect entire system03:33
tony_i thought desktop would be much easier to use03:33
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hoboitony_:  desktop is controlled by permissions and ownership at it lowest level03:34
tony_like window ..03:34
tony_i set my self as admin03:34
Omarhoboi: libros is in a disk that I mounted like this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot03:34
tony_but yet i can not delet folder03:34
Omarhoboi: maybe is mounted without permissions03:34
tony_no clue as why03:34
tony_i tried other suggestion using command..03:35
tony_but that aint working either03:35
hoboiOmar: i know but what are the permissions on the libros  directory03:35
Omarhoboi: every permission03:35
hoboitony_: what are you trying to delete03:35
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hoboiOmar: does that mean  -drwxrwxrwx  or something different03:36
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tony_i copied oscommer in /var/www/   try to access trough browser , it tries to downlaod the folder , and when i try to dele , i get access denied03:36
tony_folder permission, Ownership user : root GRoup : admin03:37
hoboitony_: who owns  oscommer  and what is the apache2  group and uid values03:37
Omarhoboi: it has every permission, root, root, I can even erase there, but no in my hda103:37
Omarhoboi: mean what03:38
tony_HOW can i check Apache2 UID ??03:38
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hoboitony_: cat /etc/group  | grep -i apache  for group03:39
hoboitony_: cat /etc/passwd |grep -i  apache  for  uid03:39
hoboiOmar: the  ACL's have been changing in the last several years for security reasons and I have not kept up and since I run as root always i dont have there problems03:40
tony_humm, i entered those command, i get nothing03:40
hoboiOmar: the short answer is i may not be able to help you03:40
Omarhoboi: pls teach me how to erase, move and copy in root03:41
hoboitony_: did you install the apache2 server03:41
tony_yes. with php and mysql03:41
tony_i guess, im going to reinstall ubuntu..03:41
tony_for 10th time :)03:41
hoboiOmar: to become root execute   sudo su   but be forwarned you could mess things up03:42
tony_i guess, im getting one step closer to go back with window .. err03:42
hoboitony_: no need to reinstall that is what  apache logs are for03:42
Omarhoboi: but I have to move my files03:42
hoboiOmar: then move them a little at a time03:42
tony_im sure i scrwed up with permission somehow .. reason for ubuntu installation is to have access to apache and php , mysql03:43
hoboitony_: execute   ps -eaf  |grep -i apache  and see what comes up03:43
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hoboitony_: you should get several processes named  httpd03:44
tony_i get www-data03:44
Omarhoboi: how03:44
Omarhoboi: you mean , normally03:44
Omarhoboi: ok03:44
hoboitony_: what is in the extreme right of the display03:45
tony_lol.. my user , group window is frozen .. heheh. remind me good old windows day03:45
tony_uer/sbin/apache03:45
tony_00:00:0003:46
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hoboitony_: wish is knew how to use pastebin  i am new to  irc  and dont know how to tell you to grab part of the display and send it to a place i can view it03:47
hoboianyone can tell me how to use pastebin?03:47
SlynderdaleJust paste and click submit?03:47
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tony_is cool, thanks for the help, im going to reinstall ubuntu again , if didn't work, i wil install apache2triad for window and stay with microcrap03:48
hoboiSlynderdale: thanks03:48
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hoboitony_: grap one of the lines from  ps  and  send it to me here03:48
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tony_thanks.. is easier to reintall everything :) .03:49
hoboitony_:  no dont go there you are close03:49
tony_lol03:49
hoboitony_: ok03:49
M4X1MUMhow do i set default browser?03:49
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tony_will reinstall tomorrow and will try apache again . hope works this time03:50
Slynderdalehoboi: http://pastebin.com/03:50
SlynderdaleBasicly just paste what you want there and click submit and post the link03:50
SlynderdaleIts simple03:50
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morlahi, why are white transparent mouse cursors dark grey on my box?03:53
hoboiSlynderdale: thanks i am basically using one line at the bottom of the  konversation  window so i will look at the url you posted  thanks03:53
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Omarhoboi: I am trying this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot -o unmask=00003:54
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Omarhoboi: but I still got an error03:54
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geniorealanyone knows a good Hard Drive Data Recovery Software that runs on LINUX?03:55
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hoboiOmar: 000 is no permissions  if you want to try it that way  use  77703:56
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Omarhoboi: thans03:57
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Omarhoboi: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,  missing codepage or other error    In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try     dmesg | tail  or so    :(03:58
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Dr_willisHmm i do NOT think you combine umask= with an ext3 filesystem03:59
Dr_willis /mnt/ubunturoot   exists allready dont it?03:59
hoboiDr_willis: i dont remember that one either  -o  rw  whatever04:00
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Dr_williswell ext2/3 has its own permissions system  using the normal linux way.. vfat,  needs options to 'simulate' the linux way..04:00
Dr_willisfor lack of better words. :P04:00
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Dr_willistry it without the   -o stuff04:01
hoboiDr_willis: since i dont mount much vfat i am in the dark  the recipient is  omar  perhaps you can help him out04:01
Dr_willis:)04:01
Dr_willisomar try it without the   -o stuff04:02
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Dr_willis:)04:02
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hoboiwhats that smell :)04:02
OmarDr_willis: same error04:02
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RawSewageis there any way to fix this annoyance:  right-clicking something usually requires some twitch skill, because when you right-click, it usually blinks on and off really fast, so you have to try it multiple times, or hold down the right-click and be tricky04:03
RawSewagedoes that make sense04:03
Dr_willisOmar,  lets start with the basics... the direcoty /mnt/ubunturoot   does exist?04:03
Dr_willis:)04:04
Dr_willistwitch skill?04:04
Dr_willis:)04:04
OmarDr_willis: yes my freind, I am mounting04:04
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OmarDr_willis: yes my freind, I am mounting that hda1 there, but with little permissions04:04
Dr_willissudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot04:04
Dr_willisworks? or not?04:05
OmarDr_willis: perfectly04:05
RawSewageyeah, for example, I want to right click a file in Konqueror, to rename or something, and I have to right-click a few times, because the right-click menu usually blinks on and off really fast04:05
Dr_willisOmar,  so when you try to mess with the permissions it fails to work?04:05
OmarDr_willis: yes04:05
Dr_willisOmar,  Im thinking that the umask option (and others) are  ONLY for the vfat filesystem and perhaps a few others.. Not for ext2/304:06
OmarDr_willis: what can I do, use vfat_04:06
RawSewageDr_willis, do you understand now04:07
hoboiOmar: what type of file system is on /dev/hda1  windows or  linux04:07
RawSewageI dread right-clicking things now04:07
Dr_willisOmar,  no idea what you are trying to do really.. you mount ext2/3 without  using that option04:07
RawSewageIt's more of an artforom than a computer command04:07
OmarDr_willis: used to be linux04:08
RawSewageYou asked me04:08
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RawSewagewhy did you ask04:08
Omarhoboi: used to be linux04:08
hoboiOmar: did you create it04:08
Dr_willisRawSewage,  personall y i find the click to rename - feature to be brain dead. but i cant say that ive ever had any other right clicking  issues.. i must be skilled in click-fu04:08
OmarDr_willis: I can mounted but I can-t move files or folders, or erase -em04:08
RawSewageDr_willis, ok04:09
Dr_willisOmar,  chown/chmod the files on the drive to be owned by the proper user. or do it as root.04:09
Omarhoboi: I am using a liveCD in a ubuntu04:09
nikoncan anyone help with samba issues, i have exhausted internet searches.04:09
Dr_willisRawSewage,  it almost sounds like you rmouse is messed up. :P04:09
hoboiOmar:  execut this command   mount |grep -i hda1    and sent me the results04:10
RawSewageits more like other processes cause the menu to disappear04:10
Omarhoboi: but my ubuntu doesn-t open , I am moving everything to another machine in order to format and use kubuntu04:10
RawSewagesuch as downloading things04:10
Dr_willisRawSewage,  i mean.. i right click and the menu stays up untill i click on somthing.. or right click again,, Hmm...04:10
Dr_willisRawSewage,  Hmm... thats.. interesting04:10
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RawSewageI right click, and see the menu for a brief instant before it disappears04:10
Dr_willisRawSewage,  ive seen where dma being disabled for the drives make the system/mouse move erraticaly.04:11
Omarhoboi: nothing happened in my console , but I can not access to my disk anymore04:11
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hoboiOmar: you mean  mount |grep -i hda1   does not return anything04:11
RawSewageDr_willis, ok, thanks anyway04:12
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Dr_willisRawSewage,   i cant get a similer action unless i purposly click outside the menu that pops up04:12
Omarhoboi: not just back to the console line04:12
hoboiRawSewage: change mice and see what happens04:12
KrAmMeR_what program would i use to install themes?04:12
RawSewageI dont have another mouse04:12
hoboiOmar: what is returned if you do   mount   only04:13
hoboiRawSewage: scratch that04:13
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Omarhoboi: lot of things, can I past -em here04:14
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hoboiOmar: just tell me if one of them of them starts with   /dev/hda104:15
burnninatorIs it a known issue in kubuntu that it takes forever to do any operations on an sd card, writing or mounting or anything?04:15
Omarhoboi: /dev/hda1 on /mnt/ubunturoot type ext3 (rw)04:15
Omarhoboi: but when it-s not mounted nothing04:16
fignewburnninator: it's just you04:16
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fignewburnninator: however, you might have luck disabling/enabling DMA04:16
burnninatorit takes like 10 minutes to even unmount any flash memory, i tried other cards and other card readers/writers04:16
fignewUSB?04:16
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hoboiOmar: ok you see the  (rw)  you have  read/write to that slice so the problem is in ownership or directory/file permissions lets go there next04:17
burnninatorone is onboard and the other card reader is usb04:17
burnninatorthe onboard one could be usb also i guess.04:17
hoboiOmar: execute  ls -ld   /mnt and tell me what it says04:17
fignewburnninator: try it with the kubuntu 6.10 beta live cf04:17
fignewcd*04:17
fignewand see if it's fixed04:17
Omarhoboi: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 60 2006-10-01 22:50 /mnt04:17
fignewhowever, I can tell you, it's most likely your hardware04:18
burnninatorhow would i check if its a dma problem?04:18
Omarhoboi: the mnt is blue04:18
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burnninatorwhere do i check to see if its enabled/disabled?04:18
hoboiOmar: ok now   ls -ld /mnt/ubunturoot04:18
fignewburnninator: nevermind that04:19
Omarhoboi: drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2006-10-01 02:56 /mnt/ubunturoot04:19
fignewburnninator: if it's also happening with usb, then DMA has nothing to do with it04:19
fignewburnninator: does it happen with CDs too?04:19
burnninatorit doesn't happen with my usb hd04:19
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burnninatorno, cd's/dvd's work fine04:19
burnninatorburning is fine @ 8x on dvd's04:20
burnninatorits just the media04:20
fignewI'd just wait and try Edgy and see if it's fixed04:20
burnninatorflash media04:20
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fignewwait... is it the same SD/CF card each time?04:20
fignewcause it could be a busted card04:20
hoboiOmar: ok now a little test  execute    cat /dev/null > /mnt/ubunturoot/test04:20
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hoboiOmar: then   ls -l /mnt/ubunturoot/test04:21
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kanakps x04:21
burnninatorthe card works fine on my powerbook, and my windows machine04:21
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burnninatorand it works fine if i boot into windows on this computer04:21
fignewyes, but have you tried different cards?04:22
fignewI have some cards that work fine in my camera, but not in my PDA...04:22
burnninatorim lookin for one.04:22
hoboiSlynderdale: back to pasetbin another question or two if you please04:22
SlynderdaleGo ahead04:22
hoboiSlynderdale: ok so i put text in the box and send to  me??  is that correct04:23
Omarhoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied04:23
hoboiOmar: hang on a min04:23
Omarhoboi: ls: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: No such file or directory the second04:23
Slynderdalehoboi: Thats basicly it, don't need to sign up or anything. Put the text there, submit and save the link or send it to soemone04:24
fignewyou see burnninator, linux may be detecting something wrong (such as corruption) that windows isn't...04:25
fignewso therefore it checks the data before it unmounts04:25
fignew^^ just an idea04:25
burnninatori just tried a 1gb card, and it wrote the files better but its been doing "safely remove" for about 2 minutes now04:25
fignewis it blinking?04:26
burnninatoryeah, really fast04:26
fignewwas it a big file?04:27
hoboiOmar: ok did you put sudo in front of that cat command04:27
burnninator200mb04:27
fignewok04:27
burnninatorits still going04:27
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burnninatorits kinda frustrating04:27
fignewwhen it's done: remount it, write another large file, go to command prompt and type sync, then "safely remove"04:27
Omarhoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied04:28
burnninatorit even takes a minute or 2 to delete a file.04:28
fignewsounds like a bad card04:29
fignewlike I said04:29
fignewtry a different card04:29
hoboiOmar: execute    sudo  cat  /dev/null >/mnt/ubunturoot/test  does it fail04:29
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burnninatorthis is a different card04:29
burnninatori have a 1gb and a 2gb, same thing04:29
nikonwhen i try and connect my windows to my linux i get "error: connection status, limited or no connectivity"04:29
fignewburnninator: what brand04:30
fignew?04:30
burnninatorsandisk04:30
fignewhmm04:30
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fignewtry it with the instructions I gave04:30
burnninatorlike i said, they work fine on everything else04:30
fignewthe sync command04:30
burnninatori am doing the sync thing right now04:30
burnninatorits blinking fast again04:30
fignewgood, wait until it's done04:31
fignewthen do remove04:31
burnninatorwhat exactly does that do?04:31
fignewwrites the changes04:31
Dr_willisnikon,  what is saying that?04:31
burnninatorit shouldn't take this long, right?04:31
fignewcorrect04:31
burnninatorwierd04:31
nikonmy windows network neiborhood04:32
fignewnikon: when you plug your windows computer directly into your linux box?04:32
Dr_willisnikon,  only time ive seen a message like that under windows - is when the windows machne was unable to get a proper ip/dns/gateway information from the dhcp server04:32
hoboiOmar: what happened04:32
fignewDr_willis: I think that's a windows error04:32
Omarhoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denie04:33
nikonyes04:33
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fignewyes to my question?04:33
nikonyes04:33
burnninatordoing all this(what seems like) unnecessary writing is probably shortening the life of my card right?04:33
Dr_willisfignew,  yep..  normally ive seen that when my dhcp server goes down.. or the cable is unplugged/messed up04:33
hoboiOmar: hmm  strange  you did use  sudo  correct?04:33
fignewburnninator: not really, they're rated for 500,000 writes04:34
Dr_willisnikon,  clarify your answers. :P    For your network. how are you connected the 2 pcs together?04:34
kanakhey guys04:34
burnninatorsync is still going04:34
fignewburnninator: anyways, the card doesn't fail all at once04:34
kanakwhts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?04:34
nikonyes box to box04:34
kanakwhts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?04:34
Omarhoboi: yes04:34
kanakthast free04:34
Dr_willisnikon,  you DID use a crossover cable?04:34
burnninatoralright its done04:34
fignewnikon: are you trying to get online04:34
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nikonno just network between two comps04:35
hoboiOmar:04:35
kanakwhts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?04:35
burnninatori did the safely remove thing and that part didn't take forever this time, only the sync thing did04:35
hoboicd /mnt/ubunturoot04:35
fignewkanak: use your brain04:35
Zaireanyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb04:35
hoboiOmar: then do  ls -la04:35
kanakuse my brain?04:35
nikonim runnning linux on my laptop and windows on my home comp04:35
Dr_willisnikon,  ok lets reclarify this.. You got 2 pc's each has a network card.. you have a normal network cable going from one network card to the other pc's network card?04:35
nikonyes04:35
Dr_willisThat wont work. :P04:35
Zaireanyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb04:36
Dr_willisYou need either a crossover cable.. or a hub/switch/router in the middle and use 2 cables04:36
nikonwhat do i have to do04:36
kanakCan you set a network bridge on here?04:36
nikonok04:36
kanakI have 2 Ethernet ports.. (2 Cards)04:36
nikonthank you04:36
kanakOne Built in and one thats a pci card..04:36
Dr_willisI suggest getting a low end router. :)  they are handy04:36
fignewburnninator: you see... when linux writes something, unless "sync" is specified in /etc/fstab, it will act like it's done, and continue writing the changes later (when it's not as busy)04:36
kanakCan I set up a Network Bridge?04:36
M4X1MUMhow to set default browser?04:36
M4X1MUMhow to set default browser in kubuntu anyone?04:37
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Omarhoboi: lot of things again04:37
nikonthanks for all the help04:37
Zaireanyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb04:37
hoboiOmar: ok execute this   >test   and tell me what happens04:38
burnninatorso, should i add sync to fstab?04:38
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fignewburnninator: no04:38
hoboiOmar: that is  right arrow no space and the word test04:38
fignewZaire: PHP4/504:38
fignew?04:38
fignewburnninator: It looks like there's some corruption going on somewhere04:39
Zairephp buletin board not plain php04:39
burnninatorso what can i do to make this process faster, i should be able to put the card in, write a file, and eject it without any hangups04:39
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Zairebasically Im trying to install a forum but its not seeing mysql-server04:39
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fignewZaire: yes, but what version of PHP is it running on??04:39
Zaire504:39
fignewburnninator: sorry, I'm out of ideas...04:40
burnninatorill try the 6.1 beta04:40
burnninatorthanks for the help04:40
fignew:/04:40
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fignewZaire: php5-mysql04:40
SlynderdaleZaire: Did you install/compile MySQL and made sure its process is running and set up correctly?04:40
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ZaireI used apt-get so I wouldn't have to install manually04:41
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Omarhoboi: like this04:42
fignewdo you have that package already?04:42
Omarhoboi:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ >test04:42
Omarhoboi: nothing happened04:42
pibarnasis there a way for installing kde-3.5.4 in kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS without beaking the whole system? A tutorial, something like that? Could someone help me?04:42
jpiccolois there a better gui tool for archiving? than ark04:42
Zairenot the php5-mysql I just got that04:42
fignewshould work then :/04:42
fignewwait04:42
fignewdo ps aux | grep "mysql"04:43
fignewand see what that returns04:43
hoboiOmar: ok now execute   ls -l  test  and tell me what happens04:43
fignewpibarnas: yep, upgrade to 6.1004:43
Zaireok that command gave me a screen of stuff that confuses the hell out of me04:44
pibarnas;)04:44
Omarhoboi: -rw-r--r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 0 2006-10-02 02:41 test04:44
fignewpibarnas: really though, you're just boud to mess stuff up if you upgrade KDE yourself04:45
fignewtrustme, I've been in similar situations04:45
ZaireAn error has occurred during installation04:45
ZaireThe PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose04:45
fignewwas that the same error as before?04:45
hoboiOmar: so now we know you have permissions in that directory  execute   rm  test  to remove the  test file04:46
Zaireyep04:46
graftpibarnas: just upgrade to edgy if you want 3.5.404:46
grafterr, yeah, what everyone else said04:46
fignewZaire: try sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart04:46
fignewor something like that04:46
hoboiOmar: now execute   sudo  cat /dev/null  > /mnt/ubunturoot/test    and  tell me what happens04:46
pibarnasokay, thank you guys.04:46
Omarhoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied04:47
Zaireclose its apache2 restart04:47
fignew:P04:47
fignewmeh at apache... I run lighttpd instead :)04:47
hoboiOmar:  execute   id   and tell me what is returned04:48
Dr_willisyou dare to 'meh' apache!!!04:48
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Dr_willisBlasphmy!04:48
Dr_willis:)04:48
fignew:-O04:48
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Omarhoboi: uid=999(ubuntu) gid=999(ubuntu) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),111(admin),999(ubuntu)04:48
Zaireapache is the number 1 server out there04:49
Zaireand restarting it gave me something different i'll say that much04:49
SlynderdaleDr_willis: IIS is better ;p04:49
SlynderdaleJust kidding04:49
Zairehardly lol its crap04:50
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hoboiOmar: lets open a private channel here goes04:50
Dr_willisI rember seeing a Micro web server for embeded devices - it was just a tad bigger then the cat-5 conector jack. :)04:50
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hoboiOmar: click on the  hoboi tab04:51
M4X1MUMhow do i install an nvidia driver?04:51
fignewanyways, as I was saying... lighttpd > apache04:51
SlynderdaleI read an article of someone setting up a small webserver on their PDA over a Wireless connection ;p04:51
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mark__help04:52
Omarhoboi: I am there talking i guess I have to register or something04:52
Zaireits telling me cannot connect to database04:52
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hoboiOmar: interesting i dont see you hold on04:52
mark__I created a root account in ubuntu, now my sound is locked only to that user, how do I change it?04:53
hoboiOmar: try it again04:53
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Pupeno!mp304:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:54
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Dr_willis!nvidia04:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:54
Omarhoboi: I am talking04:54
Dr_willismark__,  only to the root user?04:54
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hoboiOmar: yes be we are not seeing each other hold on04:55
Omarhoboi: I think I gotta pay04:55
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mark__yes- I can hear sound up until the login splash- which does not let me log in as root04:55
mark__then under my user acct, sound is disabled04:56
mark__when I have looked for the reason, it says only root can use the device04:56
Dr_willisthats odd.04:56
hoboianyone know why i cannot open a private channel between  omar  and  myself04:56
mark__yes04:56
Zairewhat would make it so the phpbb install couldn't connect to the database04:56
Dr_willismark__,  how did you 'create' a root account?04:56
mark__I was doing fine with breezy but when I upgraded to drake it messed up04:57
Zaireits easy you just type sudo passwd root04:57
mark__well, the first account I made during install was called root04:57
fignewhoboi: his/your nick has to be registered04:57
Dr_willishoboi,  thers some security settings on this server where peopl ehave to both be identified to msg? not sure..04:57
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hoboifignew: ok mine perhaps his is not thanks04:57
Dr_willismark__,  EGADS you dident tell the installer to make  'root' as the first account?!04:57
RawSewageAnyone know how I can create my own nzb files04:57
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hoboithanks guys04:57
mark__I am a throwback, I have to have a root account to separate my admin from other functions04:57
mark__but I did not expect my sound to be affected04:58
kutanCan someone give me the name of a midi to ogg converter?04:58
kutan:x04:58
hilltopHello all, I noted than kubuntu liveCD has kwrite at teh command line but I didn't see it in the menu. Same thing when I added kde to my GNOME ubuntu installed on HD.04:58
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Dr_willismark__,  you did not enter a 'normal' user name at the installer question then eh?04:58
mark__no04:58
kutanOr just any sound conversion software that includes MIDI and OGG format04:58
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hoboiOmar: have you executed   the following commands   /nick  omar    then   /msg nickserv register  <passwd>  to register your  omar  name04:58
Omarhoboi: nop04:59
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mark__when I first ran ubuntu after install, I had to drop out of login, create a new user with my name and then give it a passwd04:59
Dr_willismark__,  well i thought they fixed that 'issue' in the installer..04:59
hoboiOmar: then for us to comm on a pvt channel you have to register that way  can you do that04:59
Omarhoboi: have I now04:59
RawSewageAnyone know if there's a way to throttle the speed on klibido04:59
Dr_willismark__,  you realize that all you had to do to get root working normally was 'sudo passwd ' ? :P04:59
hoboiOmar: let me know when it is registered and i will open chan04:59
mark__Yes I know I could have done that now, but I did not know that then05:00
Omarhoboi: in the console05:00
mark__but why is my sound locked only to root?05:00
Dr_willismark__,  ive heard of others doing similer 'root' thing in the installer.. but i got no idea what to fix/correct it..05:00
fignewmark05:00
Dr_willisi would guess the users/groups for the sound devices are not set correctly05:00
hoboiOmar: no in the irc.freenode  tab  of   knoversation05:00
fignewmark__: try adding the user to the sound group :)05:00
hoboiOmar: or what ever node you signed on with05:01
mark__sound group?05:01
fignewuh huh05:01
Omar /nick  omar05:01
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Dr_willisin /etc/group ---->    audio:x:29:willis05:01
Omar /msg nickserv register  <omar>05:01
Dr_williswillis is my user name. :P05:01
Dr_willisi got 12 lines in group that have my username05:02
Dr_willisI think you will find other things broken.05:02
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hoboiOmar: not not here on the irc  node05:02
fignewhehe... perhaps not sound... audio :)05:02
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fignewno need to mess with /etc/groups05:03
fignewthere's a command05:03
fignewi believe it's adduser username audio05:03
kane_is there a way to remove an app and none of the deps?05:03
fignewor perhaps useradd05:03
hoboiOmar: depending on the version of  konversation it will be on the bottom in a tab  or on the  left top of window05:03
[renbolicious] how can i add repos with kubuntu05:03
[renbolicious] tutorial is only for ubuntu05:03
Dr_willis!repos05:03
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:03
Dr_willis[renbolicious] ,  install synaptic... and follow tutorial is one way05:04
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Dr_willis:P05:04
Dr_willisor use easysource05:04
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Dr_willisor edit the sources.list by hand05:04
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mark__ok- I added myself to audio, how do I activate it? do I have to reboot?05:04
[renbolicious] last one im trying to avoid05:04
Dr_willisor fire up adept05:04
fignewa reboot would def. work05:04
Dr_willisediting sources.list is trivial.05:04
Dr_willisits just uncommenting some lines05:04
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fignewbut a simple login/out *should* work too05:04
Dr_willisor backit up, and use the !easysource page05:05
mark__Thanks for your help I will give it a try... here goes nothing...05:05
hoboiomar2: looks like you had to change names a little05:05
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Dr_williscat /etc/group | grep root        --> shows one line for me..  if mark__ has more then that.. he needs to do some more editing. :P05:06
Dr_williswhen he returns05:06
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rideouthas ubuntu modified the standard way users/groups work? i can't seem to add my user to a groups, "sudo adduser rideout mytestgroup" work as far as it showing in /etc/goup, but the groups command doesn't show it, nor can i access files with that group05:07
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fignewrideout: never looked too deeply into it... but debian uses the same system05:08
[renbolicious] how do i install software with kubuntu?05:08
[renbolicious] what is the command05:08
[renbolicious] yum?05:08
[renbolicious] apt get?05:08
rideoutrenbolicious: apt-get05:08
Dr_willisegads...05:09
Dr_willis!apt-get05:09
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:09
Dr_willis:)05:09
[renbolicious] ?05:10
M4X1MUMpeople how to exit from x?05:10
[renbolicious] do i need to install certain packages so i can listen to mp3s?05:10
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Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  logout menu item - or alt-ctrl-backspace for a EXIT NOW! sort of thing05:10
Dr_willis!mp305:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:10
Dr_willis[renbolicious] ,  yes.. with some players.. it depends on the players as to what needs to be installed.05:11
HealotM4X1MUM, terminate/stopping the server? or you just want to get on the virtual terminal?05:11
dmeafter reading the about.com entry on adding a harddisk to my system, i have some questions05:11
M4X1MUMi need to login as root to install driver05:11
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dmeit says i have to be logged on as root... true, or will the 'su' command suffice?05:11
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  you dont really need to.. 'sudo' works great.05:11
dmesudo, excuse me05:12
Dr_willisdme,  sudo works wonders. :)05:12
M4X1MUMi tried that, and the installer says i have to exit from x05:12
Dr_willisor sudo -s05:12
dmethank you, Dw05:12
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  thats not the same as loging in as root05:12
M4X1MUMooh05:12
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  what are you installing?05:12
M4X1MUMnvidia driver05:12
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  you read up on the !nvidia page yet?05:12
Dr_willis!nvidia05:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:12
rideoutM4X1MUM: for a hard disk?05:12
rideoutsorry that was dme05:13
Dr_willisor are you refering to the nforce/chipset drivers?05:13
M4X1MUMnot for harddisk, for graphic card05:13
dmenext 'add harddisk' question: since fstab already shows an entry for /dev/hdb (the cd drive), do i call my new hard disk /dev/hdc, or will linux automatically bump up the /etc/fstab entry to the next avail drive letter for the cd drive?05:13
Dr_willis - read the !nvidia stuff then.. its about a 3 min setup.. that can be done from X and synaptic/adept05:13
Zaireanyone know what this means http://pastebin.ca/18843905:14
Dr_willisdme,  the drives get their names from where they are installed at.05:14
Dr_willisdme,  if you plugged the hd into where the cd was at.. it will be hdb05:14
[renbolicious] nice05:14
Dr_willisdme,  'fdisk -l' shows  the drives/partitions seen05:14
Dr_williswell  -->  sudo fdisk -l05:14
Dr_willis:)05:14
dmeif i plug it into the 2nd hd connector on the motherboard?05:14
Dr_willisi would guess that would be hdc05:15
dmethank you05:15
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M4X1MUMbut i dont have synaptic05:15
Dr_willisdrive letters dont 'bump/change' like they do under windows.05:15
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Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  install it.. or read the docs and use adept - the gist is the same...05:15
dmei was wondering if u would understand my question was coming from a windows p.o.v.05:15
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  select the extra repos.. search, install05:15
Dr_willishdb is hdb is always hdb.. :P05:15
Dr_williseven if its a cd, or somthing else..05:16
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Dr_willisor has 100 partitions.. or 105:16
dmedoes unix/linux have an official convention as to what i name the directory i mount the hd to, or do i just name it whatever i'm going to use it for (making backups)05:16
Dr_willis:)05:16
Dr_willisyou can mount them anywhere05:16
Dr_willis - /media/SOMTHING - is normal for ubuntu05:16
Dr_willismake sure the directory exists BEFOR you try to mount the device05:17
Dr_willisso /media/hdc1 is a good name.. as would be /media/MyBackups05:17
dmedoes the new hard disk need a swap partition as the boot harddisk has?05:17
Dr_willisor /media/porn05:17
Dr_williserr.. forget that last one..05:17
dmeforgotten05:17
Dr_willisswap partitions are for the os to use.. you can gain a little preformace by useing several swaps on different drives..05:17
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Dr_willisbut not needed05:17
Dr_willisI tend to put a little swap partiion on all my hds.05:18
dmevery good05:18
Dr_willis512mb or so.. since i tend to move them around a lot. and use live cd's a lot.05:18
Dr_willisbut its not NEEDED05:18
dmeone last question: i have a Silicon Image raid card... any idea where i would look for a linux driver for it (none on mfg cd, and silicon image's website is inadequate at best)05:19
Dr_willisgoogle is our friend, and the ubuntu forums would be the first stop..05:19
dmethank you05:19
Dr_willisIve found a lot of raid stuff to be rather lacking in linux friendlyness. :(05:19
cpk2hrmm i think i keep losing things in my panel and kmenu hehe05:19
Dr_willisbut linux can do a software raid..  but i dont mess with raid any more05:19
dmequestion grab bag: any pointers a newbie like me might not know i need?05:20
Zairehow do I fix this http://pastebin.ca/18843905:20
Dr_willisdme,  IF you ever mess witht he grub loader.. rember this - GRUB starts counting at 0 :) not 1.05:20
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Dr_willisdme,  Linux is about "layers and Legos" - Little blocks forming software layers that then form the foundation for the next layer of blocks (programs) :)05:21
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Dr_willisdme,  and rember thers NO 'n' in umount (for UNmount)05:21
hoboiomar2: are you still around05:21
Dr_willis:)05:21
cpk2i think i might need to completely reset my kde settings, how would i do this?05:21
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Dr_williscpk2,  delete those .kde dirs05:21
dmethank you; wife is calling me; must go; your help is appreciated05:22
Zairehey Hobbsee you know anything about mysql and phpbb?05:22
Dr_willis.kde/    .kderc05:22
cpk2Dr_willis: could i just rmdir -rf .kde ?05:22
Dr_willisnot sure what .kderc does05:22
Dr_williscpk2,  yep.. that should doit.05:22
Dr_willisrm -rf05:22
cpk2i wont shoot myself in the foot here?05:22
HobbseeZaire: nope05:22
Dr_willisdoes rmdir take -rf ?05:22
Zairecrap05:22
Dr_willisor just rename the .kde dir05:22
ZaireIm having database issues with mysql05:22
Dr_willisthats safer05:22
cpk2Dr_willis: i like that idea better =)05:22
Zaire!php5-mysql05:23
ubotuphp5-mysql: MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB05:23
Dr_williswhen doing new installs and keeping the /home partition ive had issues wht gnome and kde settings screwing things up05:23
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[renbolicious] jeez05:24
[renbolicious] my system just crashed05:24
[renbolicious] all i did was running glxgears05:24
cpk2Dr_willis: =(05:24
Dr_willisimpressive. [renbolicious] 05:24
[renbolicious] no really05:25
[renbolicious] im not impressed05:25
[renbolicious] !mp305:25
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Ash-FoxDoes anyone know of a way to get firefox to open anything with 'kfmclient exec <program/filename>', if I click open in the download box or something?05:25
cpk2it seemed like a good idea to have /home on its own partition05:25
Dr_willisI am.. ive not managed to crash it that way05:25
Dr_williscpk2,  it is a good idea.. but thats just somthing ive noticed that messed up on me.05:25
cpk2Dr_willis: you still have /home seperate?05:26
cpk2I also moved /home after my install heh05:26
Dr_willisI got so many partitions its scary05:26
Dr_willisactually now a days i got so many hard drives its scary05:26
Healota simple. question. should there be any problem if I create a mirror with two disks with different speed, i.e SATA and IDE UltraDMA-5?05:26
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cpk2wow kde made a new .kde instantly05:27
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Dr_williscpk2,  thats to be expected. :)05:27
Dr_williscpk2,  you did close out kde/logout then rename that dir?05:28
Zairehow do I set this up05:28
cpk2Dr_willis: no, i just realized i might want to stop kdm first though he05:28
cpk2h05:28
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Dr_willis:)05:29
otaku-sanI'm having a prob with dependencies05:29
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cpk2well i will be right back05:29
Dr_willisyea - im not sure how kde caches that dir...05:29
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mark__THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU05:29
mark__I am gstreaming RUSH RADIO right now05:29
otaku-sana app I'm trying to apt install is found but it's saying I have unmet dependencies05:30
otaku-sanand says try apt-get -f install05:30
[renbolicious] :x05:30
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mark__adding myself to the audio group and then rebooting did the trick05:30
otaku-sandoesn't that override the dependency?  And I don't want that right?05:30
[renbolicious] how do i get kde4?05:31
Dr_willismark__,  check how many entries you got for root in that groups file05:31
otaku-sanhahaha you don't want that05:31
[renbolicious] i dont?05:31
otaku-sankde4 is still in major beta mode05:31
otaku-sanunless your the dangerous kind05:31
mark__you mean /etc/groups?05:31
mark__I will check05:31
otaku-sanand like crashes05:31
otaku-sanit's code named krash05:32
[renbolicious] nope05:32
Dr_williscat /etc/group | grep root05:32
[renbolicious] im scared of crashes05:32
otaku-sanbut expect a clean version in a few months05:32
[renbolicious] they make me weep05:32
Dr_willisI have 1 entry.. if you got more then that... well :) ya got other things to fix as well05:32
otaku-sanya crashes suck05:32
otaku-sanmy friend (who is a windoze junkie) cracked up at the codename05:33
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mark__no just one... thanks for the idea to check though05:33
[renbolicious] does anyone know what package i need to install in order for amarok to play my mp3s?05:33
otaku-sanI pointed out vista05:33
Dr_willismark__,  my USER has 12 entries in that file05:33
otaku-san.....oh wow haven't seen that one05:33
otaku-sanin a while05:33
[renbolicious] ?05:33
[renbolicious] vista is nice05:33
[renbolicious] like vacation05:33
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[renbolicious] makes me wanna get a cocktail05:33
[renbolicious] and lie around in office all day05:34
cpk1Dr_willis: everything is back now =)05:34
Dr_willisnice for the hardware makers :) and the mass upgrades...05:34
cpk1only thing i really miss so far is my wallpapers05:34
otaku-san[renbolicious] : ok I've gotten mp3's to play on amarok...am doing that at the moment actually...let me remember how05:34
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mark__I only see one root and a list of many unique system users, then the personal users I have added05:34
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Dr_williscpk1,  heh - i link the .kde wallpapers directory to /home/willis/wallpapers05:34
mark__all looks in order05:34
[renbolicious] !mp305:34
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Dr_willis the .kde directory layout is SOOO nested05:34
otaku-san[ren05:35
zakamehi all05:35
otaku-sanack05:35
mark__amorak was just added to me tonight when I used ubuntu add/remove to look for it05:35
cpk1looks like my kde apps forgot everything too05:35
otaku-san[renbolicious] : ok try those...and you need to install some stuff05:35
[renbolicious] jupp05:35
Dr_williscpk1,  yep. :P05:35
[renbolicious] tought so05:35
mark__That is all for now, but I wanted to say thanks05:35
[renbolicious] youre welcome05:36
otaku-san[renbolicious] : not to hard tho'....just let me get it all in order05:36
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otaku-sanHawkwind: you on?  You can help me here...my brains going...to much info going in all the time! ;)05:37
digivore!arp05:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about arp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
Hawkwindotaku-san: ?05:38
otaku-sanHawkwind: ya05:39
[renbolicious] well05:39
otaku-sanHawkwind: heheh this poor soul needs to get mp3 playing on his/her box05:39
otaku-san[renbolicious] : ok you need libxine-extracodecs05:39
[renbolicious] ah05:40
otaku-sanHawkwind:05:40
otaku-sanahhkk05:40
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[renbolicious] apt-get install libxine?05:40
otaku-sanyou don't have the repo probably05:40
Hawkwind[renbolicious] : No, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:40
Hawkwind[renbolicious] : Have you enabled all of your repos yet ?05:40
otaku-sanso it'll just say it can't find it05:40
[renbolicious] hmm05:40
[renbolicious] i just05:40
otaku-sanHawkwind: I pull out the tut05:41
otaku-sanHawkwind: the repo one05:41
[renbolicious] i have repos enabled05:41
[renbolicious] the standard ones05:41
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Hawkwind[renbolicious] : You need multiverse and universe05:41
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[renbolicious] ?05:41
[renbolicious] which is a reposite?05:41
Hawkwind!repos > [renbolicious] 05:41
[renbolicious] !repos05:42
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:42
Hawkwind[renbolicious] : Read what the bot just pm'd you with05:42
Hawkwind[renbolicious] : No need for that, it's in PM already.  Keeps the channel cleaner :)05:42
otaku-san[renbolicious] : hehehe go ahead and put this up on your browser for safe keeping until you need it in a bit05:42
otaku-sanhttp://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.005:42
otaku-sanHawkwind: sorry I had to drag you out of channel watching ;)  My mind was going there...I've been going blank far to much recently05:43
[renbolicious] :(05:43
otaku-sanHawkwind: need vitamins05:43
otaku-sansad face?05:44
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[renbolicious] hmm05:46
otaku-sanwhats up05:46
SlynderdaleCan Ubunto read *and* write to a Fat32 drive or just Fat?05:46
[renbolicious] cant you send me your sources.list?05:46
omar2Hi guys , pls how can I open a konqueror like a root05:46
Hawkwind[renbolicious] : Look at the URL he pasted you05:46
otaku-san[renbolicious] : it's on the tutorial up there.....heres the link again...it's a really good list..I've used it a ton of times05:47
Hawkwindomar2: Why would you want to ?05:47
otaku-sanhttp://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.005:47
Hawkwindomar2: It's not recommended that you run something like konqueror as root user05:47
omar2cos I am in a live CD and I can-t move some files in a folder05:47
Hawkwindomar2: So do it from the command line, much safer05:47
omar2but I need it they are so many ifiles and folders one by one is too much05:48
otaku-sanomar2: it won't matter anyways05:48
Hawkwindomar2: You can move directories at a time05:48
otaku-sanomar2: the live cd will just delete everything you did05:48
omar2no, I can-t I got an error05:48
cpk1argh how do i get wine back on the kmenu?05:48
Dr_willisit pays to learn the shell. :P05:49
Dr_willisi cheat and run mc  as root05:49
Hawkwindomar2: That means you are doing the command incorrectly05:49
Dr_williscpk1,  you mean the apps you installed with wine?05:49
Hawkwindmc as root isn't so bad at all.  I'd recommend that long before konqueror as root05:49
cpk1Dr_willis: first, lets get wine back there =)05:49
otaku-sanno I think he means wine itself...which you can't05:49
hoboiHawkwind: omar2's error is from konqueror not the command line05:49
omar2Access denied to /home/ubuntu/New/.evolution/addressbook.05:49
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Hawkwindomar2: Tell us exactly what you are trying to do05:50
Hawkwindomar2: So use sudo mv blah blah blah from the terminal05:50
hoboiHawkwind: omar2 is trying to move files from  /dev/hda1  to  a windows shared drive via konq05:50
Dr_williscpk1,  i cant recall seeing a 'wine' icon.. ive a menu of the windows apps ive installed with wine05:50
cpk1Dr_willis: yeah that menu05:50
omar2I am trying to move a lot of files and folders from a hda1 to a share windows folder05:50
omar2there you go05:50
cpk1i dont like running the apps from konsole05:50
Hawkwindomar2: Ah, I know nothing about Windows stuff.  I would assume you are using samba ?05:51
Dr_williscpk1,  no idea if theres an easy way to get them back..I am guessing the wine executable edited a file in .kde that got merged with the menus05:51
omar2I just mounted05:51
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Hawkwindomar2: Is the Windows partition NTFS ?05:51
omar2but inside the windows share folder everything is fine I can even move or delete from my konq05:51
omar2but inside de hda1 I can-t do those things05:52
omar2at all05:52
Hawkwindomar2: So open up a terminal and type sudo before your command05:52
Hawkwindomar2: Example:  sudo mv /path/to/directory /path/to/new/directory05:52
omar2I am not usisng the terminal to move , cos I don-t know how, that s why I am using konq05:53
Hawkwindomar2: Though I'd strongly suggest using sudo cp -a instead of sudo mv05:53
hoboiHawkwind: lucky u know nothing about windows, i am trying to erase my memory of that nightmare05:53
omar2there you go05:53
omar2mv05:53
Hawkwindomar2: We are trying to teach you05:53
Dr_williscpk1, --------->  willis@Audigy:~/.kde/share/applnk/Wine   is where they are stored it seems05:53
omar2I really appreciate it05:53
Hawkwindomar2: sudo cp -a /current/directory /new/directory05:53
Dr_williscpk1,  so copy/restore that dir from your backups :)05:53
omar2cp for copy05:54
omar2ok05:54
Hawkwindomar2: Correct05:54
omar2lets try thanks05:54
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cpk1Dr_willis: thanks =D05:56
Dr_williscpk1,  handy how that works.. :P05:57
Dr_willismerfges the menu layouts05:57
cpk1cool it updated kmenu right away too05:57
Dr_willis:)05:58
Dr_willisLuser Friendly!05:58
Dr_willis:)05:58
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cpk1its amazing how much simpler linux stuff is compared to windows06:00
otaku-sancpk1: it can be a bit of culture shock..but it can be...now compiling and dependencies06:01
otaku-santhats another story06:01
Dr_willisBah! go edit that Regiestry!06:01
cpk1yeah dependencies cant be fun sometimes06:01
cpk1but ubuntu is amazing06:01
omar2Hawkwind: I have a treouble to find the folder, look one is in media:/hda1/home/omar/logs (from) the other one is media:/unionfs/home/ubuntu/New (to) , how will be the line06:02
cpk1i was able to pretty much get everything that worked on windows working on ubuntu in about 10 minutes06:02
otaku-sancpk1: All around Linux is much better...Iheheh at the moment I'm getting into dependency heck!!! So many06:02
Dr_williswhen using source - it can be apain06:02
Dr_willis:)06:03
Dr_willisbut thats the price you pay for flexability06:03
otaku-san......ahhhhgggg I'm just going to -f install this thing06:03
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Dr_williswhat thing?06:04
otaku-sanit's complaining about a PNG library06:04
dhqDr_willis: how do i configure my lm-sensors06:04
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otaku-sanDr_willis: oh I found a sweet program I really need...but it's complaining06:04
Dr_willisdhq,  normally theres a sensors-detect or sensors-config you run06:04
Dr_willisotaku-san,  and the packates for it aint working?06:05
Dr_willisotaku-san,  or using source?06:05
dhqDr_willis: i run they say no sensors detedcte d06:05
otaku-sandhq: some sensors are just not up to snuff for it....like mine sadly06:05
dhqotaku-san: but mine is a laptopo06:06
dhqotaku-san: mine temp sensors start with 55 degree cel06:06
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otaku-sanDr_willis: ok so I found it's package on apt-get...I tried it and it gave me an error of needing a dependency....so I went and found the package on debian....but it's still complaining06:06
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otaku-sandhq: you mean they are stuck on that temp?  Or what?06:07
dhq!lm-sensors06:07
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB06:07
dhqotaku-san: when i start my pc it starts at 55 degreecel and it keeps increasing06:08
omar2I did it , thanks a lot06:08
omar2really06:08
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otaku-sanDr_willis: it gave me a choice to -f install it...so I'm going to try that...and try to get the png library to work later....tho' I use png all the time06:08
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otaku-sandhq: 55cel.......thats....great I've forgotten the formula....anyone know the degrees formula06:09
cpk1what i really want is the play stop skip song prev song buttons on my keyboard to work =P06:09
otaku-sandhq: that sounds a but high tho....06:10
cpk1i sure dont know, but google knows what 55 celsius is in fareinheit06:10
dhqotaku-san: yes its too high even when my laptop is off for ages06:10
Dr_willis55C is roughly 1/2 the boiling point of water (a littel over) :)06:10
dhqcpk1: i can choose to farienheit06:10
otaku-san30 cel is about 70.... in farenheit...so ya 50 is like 100-20sh06:11
Dr_willisso thats warm06:11
dhqDr_willis: so i have to configure my lm-sensors properly06:11
otaku-sanhehehe I'm kinda right06:11
Dr_willisdhq,  no idea.:P06:11
Dr_willisit may be giveing #'s but are they the right #'s06:11
otaku-sandhq: theres a tutorial out there on this...pretty big one if I remember correctly06:11
otaku-sangoogle it06:11
Dr_willisbbl06:12
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dhqotaku-san: i did it but when i run lm-sensors i  so many failed and when i run  sensors it shows no sensors detected06:12
ZaireI need to know how I may have to config mysql in order to install phpbb206:12
Slynderdaletry google calculator: 30 celcius in fareheight06:13
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Slynderdale30 degrees Celsius = 86 degrees Fahrenheit06:13
SlynderdaleMy spelling sucks tonight :/06:14
otaku-sanohhhh I was close06:14
otaku-sanI said 7006:14
Zaireyeps 30 celcius is 86 F according to my proc temp monitor06:14
InteliWaspwhat tools to i need to run to track a memory leak wile running a program?06:14
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otaku-sandon't use C++ hehehe ;) sorry...I can't help you...just being annoying06:15
dhqotaku-san: i get 120.2 f06:15
otaku-santhats ok for start up06:16
otaku-sanmy sensors on my BIOS show about 114 when I start er up and let it run a bit06:17
Slynderdale50 degrees Celsius = 122 degrees Fahrenheit06:17
Zaire30 is 86 my gigabyte easytune does not lie06:17
otaku-sanwho I was close again....man I feel lucky tonight06:17
otaku-sanwhoa*06:17
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InteliWaspBTW for proccesors, they shuld run no hotter than 80c06:17
Slynderdaleotaku-san: Try the lottery xD06:17
Zaireummm 75 actually06:18
otaku-sanInteliWasp: ya....but he's getting super hot at cold start up06:18
Slynderdale75 = 167f06:18
InteliWaspcrap i hate it when i mess that number up..06:18
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otaku-sanSlynderdale: hehehe I should!06:18
soulrideroh noes06:18
Zairemine is running a bit hotter cause Im running kubuntu in vmware but my normal temp is 16 celcius06:18
soulridermy KDE config is back to defaul06:18
soulriderlike if i had installed KDE06:18
soulridernot the kubuntu default06:19
InteliWaspi wonder the the TIM needs replaving...06:19
soulriderhow can i change it to what comes by default in kubuntu ?06:19
InteliWaspTIM= Thermal Interface Matirial06:19
otaku-sanhehehe I call it paste06:19
otaku-sansilva paste06:19
fdovingsoulrider: you can try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings'06:20
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dinosaur-rushi06:20
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soulriderbut thats just for KDE right ?06:21
SlynderdaleBasicly what I did, was use a Ubuntu Live CD to install Ubuntu+Gnome, then used the terminal to apt-get install Kubuntu, basicly giving me the choise of Ubuntu+Gnome, or using KDE(Kbunutu), Now if I choose Gnome, it uses the normal look and feel, but whule using KDE, it switches to Kubuntu06:21
soulriderit wont screw any other apps up right ?06:21
Zaireapt-get is universal between gnome and kde06:21
cpk1Slynderdale: i dont get your question?06:22
dinosaur-rusas I understood from screenshots, live CDs can be used for regular installation to HDD with ability to work as it installs, right?06:22
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soulriderdinosaur-rus: correct06:23
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otaku-sandinosaur-rus: it's not suggested tho'....but you can06:23
dinosaur-rusotaku-san: why?06:23
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otaku-sandinosaur-rus: because you are basically installing an OS onto your hardrive...it's a bit delicate...so doing background stuff whilst it's installing is kinda foolish06:25
otaku-sandinosaur-rus: you can tho'  that's what those people taking the screenshots are doing06:25
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SlynderdaleHmm, a question, in Ubuntu, can it read *and* write to a FAT32 drive or just FAT?06:26
dinosaur-rusotaku-san: yeah, that's true. but theoretically, I can test some vital features before installing06:26
otaku-sanSlynderdale: ok I think it can both read and write to Fat06:26
otaku-sanand FAT3206:27
otaku-sanit's NTFS that can only read...unless you install ext2 (a cool program) on the windows partition06:27
SlynderdaleI know NTFS support is lacking, but I was wondering if the same goes for FAT32, I have a 300 Gig FAT32 drive and a 80 gig NTFS drive which I partitioned off for Windows and Linux06:27
otaku-sandinosaur-rus: not just theoretically....you can and is really suggested06:27
InteliWaspwith ext2, how save is it to write?06:28
Slynderdaleext2?06:28
InteliWaspsafe i mean06:28
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otaku-sandinosaur-rus: test out everything on the live cd...then reboot(it won't save anything you do on the live cd...and install k-ubuntu06:28
dinosaur-rusotaku-san: why should I reboot before installling?06:29
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otaku-sanSlyderdale, InteliWasp : with ext2 you don't need a space taking FAT32 partition...you can just transfer files over and read and write like its another drive on windows06:30
soulriderdoes anyone know where i can get the dapper color scheme ?06:30
soulrideri dont like the edgy one06:30
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otaku-sandinosaur-rus: because...there once was a bug on kubuntu that if you messed with the apps on the live cd then tried to install the OS it would crash06:31
otaku-sandinosaur-rus: I think they've squashed this bug...but to be on the safe side just reboot06:31
otaku-sanit was a Dapper bug when it was still new...06:32
otaku-sansoulrider: try kde-looks.org06:32
soulrideri did06:33
Slynderdaleotaku-san: Where can I find info on the program?06:33
qchdoes anyone of any good tools for monitoring cpu frequency under kde?06:34
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otaku-sanSlynderdale: I was just finding that....hold on a tick...I'll get it06:34
soulriderotaku-san: is there any wya i can export it froma  amchine running dapper ?06:34
otaku-sansoulrider: thats a good question...and something to try....probably....I think there is something like that06:35
otaku-sanSlynderdale: it was something I stumbled on when I first found Linux oh so long ago....06:36
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otaku-sanSlynderdale: here it is...and yes it's stable...I have been using it alot...and it hasn't done anything wrong...I get picture files (for painting on PS) from my Linux partition and open them on windows all the time...and visaversa06:38
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otaku-sanhttp://www.fs-driver.org/06:38
otaku-santhere it is ^^^^^06:38
SlynderdaleThank you :)06:38
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Timmy|GDSwhat directory are the buntu dapper sources lists? I need to change dapper to edgy for a dist upgrade06:39
otaku-sanSlynderdale: no problem...06:39
otaku-sanTimmy|GDS: wow you can upgrade?  I thought it was still unstable06:40
otaku-sanit came out with a RC?06:40
timthelionis there an application for optimizing startup times for kubuntu? they have become painfully slow, 5 minutes on a p4 3.0gz 2 gig ram06:40
timthelionI am on a fully up to date dapper06:40
Timmy|GDSchrist! im on a p4 2.66 768dram and its not that bad06:40
timthelionit used to be like 15 secconds06:41
Timmy|GDSi think i have an ibm article for you...06:41
cpk1anyone know if kde-look has a huge zip of all their wallpapers and whatnot?06:41
Timmy|GDS(might help)06:41
Timmy|GDShttp://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html06:41
Timmy|GDSthats a bit more core, but it might help06:42
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otaku-sancpk1: um....you mean so you can get it all?06:42
otaku-sancpk1: that would be a bit hard....06:42
cpk1otaku-san: that would be preferable =D06:42
otaku-sancpk1: hehe it's not like windows!!!!06:43
Timmy|GDSlol06:43
Timmy|GDSyeah06:43
Timmy|GDStar.gz06:43
Timmy|GDS...06:43
Timmy|GDSGoogle is your best bet06:44
otaku-sancpk1: all of the window decos, wallpapers, color schemes are created by just anyone....and it's constantly changing06:44
otaku-sanno use kde-looks.org06:44
Timmy|GDSyeah06:44
timthelionis it possible to have dpkg list all installed applications and libraries?06:44
otaku-sanand go to deviantart.com for wallpapers06:44
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cpk1i would use kget with kde-look.org but i cant seem to figure it out06:44
otaku-sancpk1: so it would be impossible to just tar it all06:44
otaku-san.....kget....kde-looks.org o.006:45
otaku-sancan you do that?06:45
cpk1not sure06:45
cpk1but you should be able to!06:46
cpk1that and the get new wallpapers gui doesnt seem to like me very much06:46
otaku-santhe things on KDE that change the look normally are connected to kde-looks.org so it's very easy to change....06:46
otaku-sanhey would reinstalling kdelibs4 be a good idea.....n00b question06:47
otaku-sanok I'm off....when I look at compiling and go....do I have to....I need to sleep06:51
otaku-sanpeace06:51
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cpk1ooooooooo boy06:55
cpk1looks like kstuff.org might have been what i was looking for06:55
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cpk1bah nevermind, hasnt been updated in over a year06:57
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igihi there07:00
dinosaur-rushi07:01
igiI got a rpoblem07:01
igimy p2p under linux is much slower than under win07:01
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igialso, DL from rapidshare and megaupload larger than few 100KB always breaks07:02
igiany suggestions?07:03
igimaybe default package size and stuff like that07:03
igiI dunno where to set it in linux07:03
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zeus_please i need some help here whit the grub07:04
zeus_title         Windows vista07:05
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arunkalehey, people.. I wanted to try out Gnome desktop.. what major changes will take place? Can I use the same software that I use now?07:05
zeus_i have a sata disk but i dony know what to put in the menu.list07:05
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zeus_here is my fstab file07:05
zeus_proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       007:06
zeus_/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       107:06
zeus_/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:06
zeus_/dev/hda6       /media/hda6     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:06
zeus_/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:06
zeus_/dev/sda5       /media/sda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:06
zeus_/dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       007:06
zeus_/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       007:06
zeus_please HELPP07:06
dinosaur-rusarunkale: I guess your current software should work07:08
arunkalethanks07:08
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dinosaur-rusarunkale: at least you always can return everything to its current state ;)07:13
Hawkwindzeus_: Please don't paste to the channel like that.  Use a pastebin service07:14
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qchdoes anyone know of a good app to monitor cpu frequency on kde?07:17
unix_lappyqch: cpufreq-utils07:18
unix_lappyor use gkrellm's cpufreq monitor or use conky / torsmo07:19
qchah, thanks unix_lappy07:19
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unix_lappykde comes with its own little applet, ASSUMING your cpu supports dynamic and has monitoring capabilities.07:19
qchhmm, where?07:19
qchi have a laptop and it does indeed support dynamic freq. scaling07:19
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qchKLaptop allows me to throttle the cpu frequency but i can't actually see what speed it's running at...any clues?07:21
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dinosaur-ruswhat gcc version does Edgy use by default?07:28
qchI think 4.1.1 ?07:29
dinosaur-rusthx07:30
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SlynderdaleWhat version is the Ubuntu Linux kernal?07:39
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Healotuname -r for your current kernel, check the repos for updated version07:42
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Kreamdoes anyone here have colours working in vim ?07:47
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High|anderhow lovely, my palm is syncing with kpilot08:15
High|ander:)08:15
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raveeshhi!08:26
raveeshi am new to kubuntu, can anyone help me out08:26
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junehow do i manage user permissions?08:31
juneas far as allowing other users to sudo08:31
krautmoin08:38
KDEfanboyjune: in Konqueror, type in location bar: "man:sudoers" to read about sudoers file. it should always be modified with 'visudo' command, "man:visudo" to read about that command08:40
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daurnimatorhi all09:17
daurnimator!sound09:17
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:17
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cpk1argh iwconfig gives me a seg fault?!?!09:21
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daurnimatorok09:26
daurnimatormy sound isn't working09:26
daurnimatori need help09:27
daurnimatorthat help from ubotu didn't help09:27
weas3lwow, how odd is that...09:27
dekKrusader does not save configuration on exit (even though the option is enabled). It always starts in the same dir. Any idea?09:27
weas3lneither is mine.09:27
weas3l!sound09:27
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:27
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exceswaterhello people09:31
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yigalhi - who can help me with installing ICQ on Ubuntu?09:34
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tejinderanyone knows, why i get this error when i do glxinfo? Re: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"?09:35
tejinderi am using nvdia-glx-legacy driver09:35
flaccidgoogle show anything?09:35
tejinderflaccid: asking me?09:35
flaccidyes09:36
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tejinderdid'nt find anything useful09:37
KEojoin #sieci09:37
flaccidk09:37
tejinderi commented out the dri section too09:37
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tejinderdo i need to install restricred kernel modules, to make it work properly?09:37
tejinderI am on edgy btw09:37
MDCorehey all.. can anyone recommend a gui scp client ?09:37
Healoti am on the edge of a cliff btw09:38
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weas3lwhat happens if $ sudo modprobe snd_es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 dma1=1 dma2=5 irq=5 fm_port=0x388 returns an error? o_O09:52
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NthDegreewtf lol09:52
NthDegreeyou surely mean sudo modprobe snd_es18xx right?09:53
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weas3l... i'm just goin thru the motions to get my sound workin from one of the links ubotu gave me.09:53
NthDegreeor weas3l if you insist on all those settings give sudo modprobe09:53
weas3lthats copied right from the link09:53
NthDegreelol09:53
NthDegreetry this then09:54
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weas3lso... i can just go $ sudo modprobe snd_es18xx?09:54
NthDegreeyes09:54
NthDegreeI believe that thing there is wrong: it should of been - sudo modprobe 'snd_es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 dma1=1 dma2=5 irq=5 fm_port=0x388' at the very least09:54
weas3lnow, thats just the one in the example, its probably not going to fit my chipset...09:55
NthDegreethen try this:09:55
weas3lwhere would i put *that* (or the modulename?)09:55
NthDegreelspci09:55
Healotit's an isa card09:55
Healotis it?09:56
weas3lon a laptop?09:56
weas3li see theres a multimedia audio controller....09:56
NthDegreeHealot: on a modern system would anyone have an ISA sound card09:56
flaccidi do09:56
Healothe could :)09:56
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NthDegreehehe09:57
NthDegreeyeah but that example is really wrong09:57
flaccidnothing wrong with legacy hardware if it does the job09:57
NthDegreeis if it will be unsupported by kernel 2.7 :|09:57
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NthDegreehmmm weas3l pastebin the output of lspci for us would ya?09:59
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weas3ltheres no flood restrictions here?09:59
NthDegreeI said pastebin not paste lol09:59
NthDegreeubuntu.pastebin.nl <----- go there09:59
weas3lcan't find it.10:00
NthDegreeoops 1 sec10:00
NthDegreehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10:01
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NthDegreethen you can paste the info in there and we can try to help ;-)10:01
weas3lhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25479/ BAM!10:02
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NthDegree1 sec10:03
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NthDegreei'll find out what you really need to modprobe10:03
weas3l*snigger*10:03
weas3lwould that be soundcore?10:05
weas3lor am i way off?10:05
NthDegree1 sec10:05
NthDegreei think it could be sudo modprobe via82cxxx_audio10:05
weas3lfatal, module not found10:06
NthDegreesudo modprobe via82cxxx maybe10:06
Healotvia module should be in10:06
NthDegreewell lets see what putting just via82cxxx does :-)10:08
weas3ldidn't return any error. :D10:08
NthDegreeright now you want I think sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart or sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart10:09
weas3lalsa-utils?10:10
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weas3lneiter of those commands are found :S10:10
NthDegreeyeah :$10:10
weas3lk10:10
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weas3lstill no sound :S10:11
NthDegreerun alsamixer10:11
weas3lshould i do restart then the card?10:11
NthDegreeyou might need to turn the volume up lol10:12
weas3lvolume is in the red on all sliders10:12
NthDegreeand unmuted10:12
NthDegree?10:12
weas3lcept the mic and cd.10:12
weas3lyup10:12
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NthDegreetried running a sound test?10:12
weas3lneg10:12
weas3lwait, muting the external speaker makes it work o_O10:13
NthDegreelmao10:13
weas3lexternal amp i mean...10:13
NthDegreethat's an on/off switch i suspect10:13
weas3li suppose that makes sense...10:14
cpk2!sudo10:14
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:14
NthDegreenow one last thing10:14
weas3lwhere do i send the cookies?10:14
NthDegreelol10:15
weas3lcan you possibly shed some light as well on a wireless gateway issue i'm having with my school...10:15
flaccidhow does ubuntu know the ip address of the gateway/router? i can't see anything in resolv.conf is it a dif file?10:16
NthDegreewireless isn't my thing10:16
NthDegreeflaccid: it knows it via dhcp normally10:16
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flaccidwhere is that stored but?10:16
weas3lwell, its more a 'the schools tech doesn't know linux, and setting the gateway in windows is making every connection gateway.xxx.xxx:808010:16
NthDegreeflaccid: no config10:16
flaccidno config?10:17
flaccidhow does the system know? command to verify?10:17
NthDegreeflaccid:  dhcp works by your router acting as a server and dhcp connecting to it and receiving the data via a dhcp client10:17
cpk2so somehow sudo stopped working and forced me to do a hard reboot =\10:17
flaccidi know that10:18
flaccidi run dhcpd at home here10:18
flaccidi am asking a command to get the router ip10:18
NthDegreesudo ifup eth010:19
NthDegreetry that10:19
flaccidifup: interface eth1 already configured10:19
NthDegreedamn I can't remember the command for it10:19
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NthDegreethere's one that shows statistics and gateway and all that10:20
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flaccidhow to set gateway manual then?10:20
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NthDegreein the net file, gimme a sec and i'll get the location of it10:21
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mabreauxI have a alsa sound system and I can't turn the volume up beyound 30. which is very soft.  any one know how to turn it up10:21
flaccidmabreaux: try kmix10:21
NthDegree  /etc/network/interfaces @ flaccid10:21
flaccidoh yeah of course10:22
mabreauxI did, that is how I got to 3010:22
NthDegreemabreaux: try alsamixer10:22
cpk2resolv.conf10:24
mabreauxon the alsamixer the master and pcm are at the top.10:24
cpk2oh wait no thats dns oops10:24
NthDegreecpk2: I already told him lol10:24
flaccidits at the top then10:24
mabreauxbut volume is still at 3010:24
flaccidyeah i think some distros use resolv.conf for gateway10:24
mabreauxand barely audible10:24
NthDegreeturn up the speakers then and turn up ALL the volume bars on alsamixer10:25
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flaccidyou do understand that this is a pre-amp only?10:25
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mabreauxspeakers are built into the laptop10:25
buzwhat should i use these days automatix or easyubuntu?10:25
flaccidunless its an old soundcard with a built-in amplifier10:25
cpk2flaccid: it will be easier if you just use the gui to set the gateway10:26
NthDegreebuz: none, they cause more issues than they solve10:26
flaccidcpk2: you don't say10:26
mabreauxbrand new machine.10:26
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buzi could do it by hand10:26
buzbut i'm lazy10:26
flaccidmabreaux: is pcm turned all the way up10:26
mabreauxit has the high definition sound system10:26
NthDegreemabreaux: turn up the built in laptop speakers then10:26
mabreauxyes it is10:26
mabreauxthey are10:26
NthDegreemabreaux: turn ALL the bits on alsamixer up10:27
cpk2flaccid: sometimes the gui can actually help10:27
NthDegreebecause PCM means little if "{name of soundcard model here} playback" isn't turned up too10:27
flaccidcpk2: i'm not a newbie10:27
buz!easyubuntu10:28
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:28
buz!automatix10:28
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.10:28
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buzthats not very useful10:28
cpk2i dont get what being a noobie has to do with any of what i was talking about but ok10:28
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mabreauxsound card says generic.....  how do I load the proper driver or what ever10:28
NthDegreebuz, automatix and easyubuntu can mess up a lot of things10:29
NthDegreeso they aren't officially supported10:29
buzmhh RestrictedFormats must have been redone by a crazy man10:30
mabreauxhow can I identify what type sound card is in here10:30
buznow i have to type everything myself?10:30
NthDegree:|10:30
NthDegree!restrictedformats10:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:30
buzyeah i know the page10:30
NthDegreewhat is crazy about it?10:30
cpk2libxine-extracodecs will get most everything10:31
buzbefore there was nice lines which one could past10:31
NthDegreeI simply apt-get install audacity and convert my MP3s to OGG10:31
buznow i need to paste 10s of lines10:31
NthDegreeROFL10:31
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buztold oyu i'm lazy sob10:31
NthDegreebuz, one line is all you really need10:31
NthDegreethen convert all your MP3s and w/e to OGG10:32
buzthats just stupid10:32
cpk2buz: what are you trying to play?10:32
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NthDegreehow is it buz?10:32
buzuhm like everything? i'll need w32codecs, too10:32
mabreauxgood night10:32
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mabreauxall10:32
NthDegreenight mabreaux10:32
buzconverting lossy to lossy is a bad thing to do TM10:32
cpk2i see 5 packages that you need for kubuntu to get "everything" playing10:33
cpk2thats including w3210:33
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buzyeah10:33
cpk2so technically that is 3 commands10:33
buzin the past that was ONE line ;)10:33
NthDegreebuz, well stop downloading off P2P then :p and you won't need all those lines10:34
buzi dont use p2p10:34
cpk2its 3 lines!10:34
NthDegreethen why do you need codecs for MP3, AVI, MPEG etc.?10:34
flaccidwhere are static routes kept?10:35
buzbecause even legit sites use those?10:35
flaccidwhy stop d/l off p2p10:35
flaccidit rox10:35
cpk2i still dont get it all you need to do is 3 lines10:35
NthDegreeor 1 line10:35
NthDegreegimme a sec10:36
cpk2apt-get install everything but w3210:36
cpk2wget w3210:36
buzyeah10:36
cpk2dpkg w3210:36
buzbut you need to craft that line10:36
cpk2and thats it10:36
buzanyway, i'm done ;)10:36
cpk2it tab completes10:36
buzapt does tab completion?10:36
cpk2yes10:36
NthDegreeapt-get install libxine-extracodecs  w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib  libarts1-xine  libakode2-mpeg10:36
buzdidnt know THAT ;)10:36
NthDegreeOMG SOOOO EASY10:36
cpk2lol NthDegree10:37
NthDegreeI did it in 1 line10:37
buzyeah but hows restrictedformats newb friendly if it cant display the commands itself?10:37
NthDegreebecause we don't expect people to sit around like ignorant fools not learning10:37
cpk2it does10:37
NthDegreeand you don't need a terminal to do it10:37
cpk2scroll down and READ10:37
cpk2oh i guess it doesnt give you something to copy paste10:38
buzsee, in the past it DID10:38
NthDegreeLMFAO10:38
cpk2although you could still copy paste all the package names from the top and it would be the same10:38
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NthDegree1 second10:38
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cpk2lol10:39
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buzmhh is css integrated into that libxine?10:40
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NthDegreebuz: where do you live? what country?10:41
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buzSwitzerland, CSS is perfeclty legal here10:41
NthDegreethen apt-get install libdvdcss I think it is10:41
buzyeah probably10:41
buzcould be libdvdcss210:41
buzor i'll just use vlc ;)10:42
buzwhich i like more than kaffeine anyhow10:42
NthDegreeCSS is actually legal all over the world, just decrypting it with DeCSS isn't :p10:43
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buzactually, i'm not entirely sure about that10:44
buzsome jurisdictions are decidedly anti copy protection10:44
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buzin danmark you cant sell non region free dvd players for one10:44
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NthDegreelol10:47
NthDegreeI like to record music off the TV and OGGify it10:47
NthDegree100% legal10:47
NthDegreeand free as in cash and freedom10:47
daurnimatoruh10:47
daurnimatorthats not legal10:47
NthDegreeit is actually10:48
NthDegreesince I watched it at home10:48
daurnimatorwell, maybe where you live10:48
NthDegreeand paid my TV License and Sky subscription10:48
buzand even if it was illegal, there's NFW they could catch you10:48
daurnimatorbut, here, its illegal to record anything - just its never been enforced10:48
daurnimatorHERE, its illegel to rip a cd10:48
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cpk2where is "HERE"?10:49
daurnimatoruh, at this minute, victoria, australia10:49
daurnimatoras an extra note: if there is region protection that locks out our region, you are allowed to copy/hack all you want10:50
buzor you fix it once by hacking your dvdrom, really10:51
lupine_85UK10:51
Goliath23hi, could anyone please try and reach http://plasma.kde.org from your end?10:51
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buzGoliath23: doesnt seem to respond10:51
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Goliath23bugger10:52
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D4rklydoes anyone know how i can share my pc internet connection with my mobile via bluetooth ? the motorola desktop suite for windows does it10:59
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couquinouxfr11:00
kayhello i have a question how can i find the packages where a special lib data file is? (for example libc6 which packages)11:00
couquinouxfranais11:01
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cpk2D4rkly: there should be a way, not sure exactly how bluetooth works but on your kubuntu box ( i assume thats the pc with the net) the simplest way would be to use MASQUEARADE11:01
cpk2possible spelling error there =P11:01
KDEfanboy!french11:01
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:01
KDEfanboykay: i think you are wanting to search by filename(?) you can do that here http://packages.ubuntu.com/11:02
D4rklyok cool :)11:02
kayKDEfanboy: thx!11:02
KDEfanboy:)11:02
cpk2D4rkly: thats an iptables command11:03
D4rklyyep :)11:03
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D4rklyhow can i find out my mobile lan ip ? im guessing i need to setup a PAN between pc and mob (pesonal area network)11:03
cpk2D4rkly: i dont know the exact syntax but it will be something like iptables -t nat -a something -j MASQUERADE i might be completely off though11:03
addielo11:04
cpk2D4rkly: i think using ad-hoc would be easiest11:04
cpk2and just give the pc wlan0 something like 192.168.2.1 and the mobile 192.168.2.211:05
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D4rklyi need to use bluetooth cause my phone doesnt have wifi11:05
cpk2does bluetooth support ad-hoc? i dont know anything about bluetooth11:06
cpk2you could set up a dhcp server on the pc11:06
D4rklyyep ill have a look into it :)11:07
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Admiral_Chicagoi have an odd error. I want to edit my system settings and I opened that up in System Settings11:14
Admiral_Chicagobut I'm getting a "the module Display can not be edited" error11:14
Admiral_Chicagoso I can't change any of my settings11:15
Admiral_Chicagothey aren't even displayed11:15
Admiral_Chicagoi'm going to post my xorg.conf is a second11:15
Admiral_Chicagohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25483/11:16
Admiral_Chicagoi'm running XGL/Compiz as well but I don't think thats the problem11:16
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pascalFRAdmiral_Chicago:  does kcontrol : devices > monitor and display  work ?11:25
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Admiral_ChicagopascalFR, kcontrol?11:27
main2im using 'desktop sharing' on my server, but a lot of times after the client connects - it dies quickly (some times after 20sec, sometimes after 3sec)11:28
pascalFRAdmiral_Chicago: you're on kde ?11:28
Admiral_Chicagoyes11:28
main2is there anything i can test too see what is broken?11:28
pascalFRthen alt-F2  kcontrol11:28
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pascalFRand go to devices > monitor and display11:29
jpiccoloanyone have a good resource for small form factor cases11:29
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Admiral_Chicagoi don't see devices...11:29
pascalFRunder internet ?11:30
pascalFRperipherals ?11:30
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Admiral_Chicagoah peripherals11:30
Admiral_Chicagomonitor does not exist11:31
Admiral_Chicagodisplay doesn't work11:32
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pascalFRwhen u click on display  what happens on the right panel ?11:32
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Admiral_Chicagoit goes back to the original screen11:33
pascalFRok you are on edgy ?11:33
Admiral_ChicagopascalFR, yea i should probably ask i #ubuntu+1 no?11:33
pascalFRso it is a bug i just opened on launchpad bug #63517      not your fault or xorgs faults   it is a kdebase bug11:34
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Admiral_Chicagohmm, ill check out LP and back you up on it11:34
Admiral_Chicagodirect link?11:34
Admiral_Chicagonvm11:36
pascalFRhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/6351711:37
pascalFRok thanks11:38
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Admiral_Chicagomight want to add the keyword "edgy"11:40
Admiral_Chicagoah it might be like that already11:40
Admiral_Chicagowell its bed time forme11:40
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pascalFRnite Admiral_Chicago11:41
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Hjuringen_Hi, I am wondering how usb automounting is working, and how I can set the automount to set exec on mounting an usb-stick so that I can run programs on this stick.11:49
main2the program 'krfb' crashes the whole time11:50
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main2getting sick of it11:50
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main2every time i remote desktop to my server, the process on the server crashes11:51
main2any ideas? :(11:51
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Hjuringen_Reason for asking: I want to run Damn Small Linux (dsl-embedded) from the stick.11:52
D4rklyi need to use the following command but im unsure as to what the /24 is for ? also is the ip the localhost or the remote ?11:52
D4rklyiptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 169.254.1.68/24 -j MASQUERADE11:52
cpk2dont think you need the /24 and i think you use localhost, might want to ask in #iptables where people know what they are talking about though =P11:53
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cpk2D4rkly: i found you need to be slightly patient in #iptables though =)11:54
D4rklyok :)11:55
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High|anderhm12:00
High|andernow kpilot removes the entrys on my palm !12:00
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High|anderwtf?12:00
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jonathan__hii12:03
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berkesgood morning.12:13
gCbmorning12:13
berkesI am looking for some help with SUID (I think).12:13
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berkesi have this little script that tests for my home wifi, if available it runs iwconfig and dhclient to connect to my home wifi,12:14
Linux_Galorejust reading this test benchmark comparing kde and gnome memory usage, what is really suprising is in some cases running gnome apps in kde uses less ram12:15
berkesbut I want to run that w/o typing in the su pw. The script, however, should not be editable by anyone but root.12:15
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Linux_Galorehttp://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/12:15
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HabaKKukhey ppl12:31
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kulbirhow to do i disable sudo password?12:33
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HabaKKukbetter not to disable12:34
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flaccidi don't think you can12:34
HabaKKukhe can set pass blank12:34
kulbirHabaKKuk: why?12:34
HabaKKukimho12:34
raveeshCan anyone help me in installing firefox12:34
kulbirHabaKKuk: k thanks12:35
HabaKKuklol np12:35
HabaKKuk;] 12:35
HabaKKukhey, do you ppl know any good soft for mixing music ?12:35
kulbirHabaKKuk: why lol ?12:35
HabaKKukah dont worry12:36
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raveeshHaba: Audicity12:36
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HabaKKukraveesh: is it avail in repos ?12:36
HabaKKukmain repos12:36
HabaKKukanyway will try12:36
HabaKKuk')12:37
raveeshcan u help me with my FF  install12:37
kulbirFF?12:37
raveeshfirefox12:37
HabaKKukraveesh: wheres the problem /12:37
HabaKKuk?12:37
raveeshi dont know how to instal it on kubuntu12:38
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HabaKKuksudo apt-get install ff     ?12:38
raveeshnot working12:38
HabaKKukell12:38
kulbirraveesh: why?12:38
HabaKKukhm12:38
raveeshgives an error12:38
HabaKKukwhich error ?12:38
raveeshjust a min12:38
raveeshsome directory could not be locked12:39
HabaKKukhm..12:40
kulbirraveesh: :-?12:40
raveeshya12:40
HabaKKukhae you got all repos updated ?12:40
raveeshits updating12:40
HabaKKuk!repositories12:40
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:40
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raveeshright now12:40
HabaKKukjust update it thn try again12:40
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HabaKKukif it wont work still go ot ubuntu forum, i cannot help you as im quite newbie there12:41
raveeshok12:41
raveeshso am i12:41
raveeshi just installed kubuntu this morning12:41
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HabaKKukdont worry all will be ok ;)12:42
raveeshi am good12:42
raveeshjust poking my noze around12:42
HabaKKuk'k12:42
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HabaKKukokay, theres no such package like audicity or so12:44
Jazonhi.  how do i get kdm back instead of gdm?  i inadvertantly set gdm to default...12:44
HabaKKukdo you know guys any decent muic makin soft "12:44
HabaKKukJazon: you want to back from kde to gnome or what ?12:45
HabaKKuk;] 12:45
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Jazonheh - exactly12:45
HabaKKukwell12:45
HabaKKukwhen you start PC12:45
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HabaKKuktheres a field where you need to put passwd innit ?12:45
Jazonno no i know that12:45
HabaKKukso wheres your issue ?12:46
Jazoni want to use kdm and not gdm for that screen12:46
HabaKKukno understand12:46
HabaKKuk;] 12:46
Jazonhmmm12:46
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Jazonok.  well, gdm is the gnome login manager.  kdm is the kde login manager12:46
HabaKKukyeah fine12:47
hypersomeone is using edgy here? Got a prob with EasyCam212:47
Jazoni did an apt-get install gnome or something and inadvertantly allowed it to use gdm instead of kdm.  i want the kdm back12:47
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Jazonjust dont know what file that setting is in12:47
HabaKKukone sec12:47
pascalFRHabaKKuk: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm ?12:47
HabaKKukpascalFR: theres no needs to reinstal12:48
pascalFRthat's the quick way12:48
HabaKKukhe's got both kdm and gdm, i think it can be changed in system settings -> sren r so , or when you log to system, theres some opions as well12:49
Jazonsudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm12:49
HabaKKukabout which srtting youd like to run12:49
HabaKKukdunno12:49
Jazonthx that was close....12:49
Jazon:P12:49
HabaKKuk;] 12:49
Jazonrestarting X now... brb12:49
pascalFRit should be in /etc/default12:50
HabaKKukpascalFR: do u know any makin/mixin music soft /12:51
HabaKKuk?\12:51
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pascalFRHabaKKuk: nop12:52
flaccidhmm what is the flashplayer binary12:52
flaccidflashplugin-nonfree is just the plugin i assume12:52
pascalFRgoogle is your friend  or  the wiki in the topic12:52
pascalFRflaccid: yes12:52
flaccidwhat is the name of the player?12:53
flaccidpackage12:53
pascalFRwhat do u mean ?  independant player ?12:53
flaccidyeah flash player to play .swf12:53
flaccidis this the one libflash-swfplayer12:53
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pascalFRflaccid:  dont know  search the wiki12:55
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flaccidok12:55
huyhi12:55
huycan some one help me register my compuer to a domain name?12:56
pascalFRi have a swf-player  listed12:56
huyi already bought a domain name but i don't know how to create a domain with my computer12:56
flaccidhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FlashPlayerStandalone   <--- says to use wine ouchy!!12:56
pascalFRok12:56
flaccidhuy: create a domain?12:57
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huyyes so i can access my computer remotely such as dev.domain.com12:57
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huyso far i am asking godaddy to forward request12:57
huyfor me12:57
huyi don't want to rely on godaddy12:58
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flaccidhuy: dns12:59
huyyep12:59
huywhat do i use?? bind9?12:59
flaccidum12:59
flaccidis your server in a datacentre12:59
huyno it is at home atm12:59
flaccidbecause if not goddaddy will be more reliable12:59
flacciddo not serve dns from home12:59
huyah01:00
flaccidbad idea01:00
huybut if go daddy goes down01:00
huyso is my server01:00
flaccidno01:00
flaccidincorrect01:00
huyplus go daddy can only forward http request01:00
hypersomeone managed to run EasyCam2 in kubuntu edgy?01:00
flacciddns is distributed01:00
flaccidhuy: goddaddy hosts the dns, you host the site/services or whatever01:00
huyi want to be able to ssh into my home computer using my domain name01:00
flaccidyou simply add an A record with your home static ip to your dns zone with godaddy01:01
flaccidhuy: what is the domain name?01:01
huywww.riotstudios.net01:01
huyi want to be able to do ssh mycomputer.riotstudios.net01:02
flacciddo you wanna host the domain or a subdomain?01:02
flaccidright a subdomain01:02
huyyep01:02
huyand i have another coputer in another location01:02
flaccidso add an A record with godaddy for mycomputer.riotstudios.net to your home static ip01:02
huyrunning another service01:02
huyah01:02
huyok01:02
flaccidthats all you need to do...01:03
huywould that work for all service?01:03
flaccidwhat it means is that when someone looks up mycomputer.riotstudios.net the godaddy dns server will respond with that ip01:04
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eloisyo01:04
flaccidwhich means it 'points' to your home network.. so you can do whatever you want service wise. you have ~64K ports to play with01:05
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huycan you explain why hosting your own dns is bad?01:05
flaccidits not01:05
flaccidbut it is if you don't have a server in a datacentre that has redundancy01:05
huywell bad for an average user01:06
flaccidif you cannot provide 99.9999999% uptime01:06
flaccidsay i do a look up, you are down temporarily01:06
flaccid..01:06
huyah ok, but does it matter, i mean if i go offline, people won't reach my compuer01:06
huywhich won't be a problem to me01:06
flaccidbut because its distributed, parent dns server @ isp does the lookup. all dns servers down the line ..01:07
huybut when i go online again, you will01:07
flaccidthats not dns01:07
huyoh01:07
flaccidthats simply you up or down01:07
flaccidwe are talking about serving dns01:07
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flaccidthere is no way your home will be more reliable than godaddy01:07
huyyep am i serving it jus for my network?01:07
flaccidno01:08
flaccidmaster dns server for the whole world...01:08
cpk2huy: even if godaddy goes down people can still hit you via your ip01:08
flaccidyou can serve internal dns01:08
flaccidbut that is caching name server, not authoritive01:08
flaccidcpk2: thanks01:08
huyah, one problem i am having is that my page when it is loading, it display my ip address01:08
huyinstead of my domain name01:08
huyand apache is saying that cannot resolve domain name01:09
flaccidthats because the domain is parked i believe01:09
huyyes it is.01:09
huywhat does that mean?01:09
flaccidor maybe its not one sec01:09
flaccidhmm no it has an A record01:10
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huypeople say that godaddy park domain name on their site01:10
flaccidwhat do you mean by when it is loading, it displays ip address?01:10
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huylike when it is loading a picture01:10
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huyit display the path to the picture which is my ip  address01:10
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huytry www.riotstudios.net and you see what i mean01:11
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flaccidlooks like they non-standard parking01:11
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flaccidare you hosting with godaddy?01:12
huywhat does that mean?01:12
huyjus the domain name01:12
huynot the website01:12
flaccidwhere are you going to host it?01:12
huymy compuer01:12
flaccidright01:12
flaccidso basically you are being scabbing on the hosting cost?01:12
flaccidnot to sound rude..01:13
huywhat do you mean?01:13
cpk2why even use godaddy you can get free dns at dyndns01:13
flaccidyou are hosting from home to save paying for hosting?01:13
flaccidcpk2: not for your own domain you can't01:13
huyno i am hosting at home to test first01:13
flaccidhuy: is this your home ip 60.241.227.110?01:13
huyyes01:13
cpk2flaccid: semi-personalized at dyndns01:13
flaccidhuy: i read the pricing today01:14
huyi'm not paying godaddy for hosting01:14
flaccidhuy: in that case you need to change the A record on godaddy to that IP01:14
huyi pay them for domain01:14
huywhich they broker for me01:14
flaccidthe A record atm is riotstudios.net1A64.202.189.1703600s01:14
flaccidthat needs to be changed01:14
flaccidto your home IP01:15
huyyes01:15
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huypray tell how I should do that?01:15
flaccidhuy: if godaddy is hosting your dns, they should have a control panel to manage01:15
flaccidif you are planning on hosting on a proper server, i'd suggest allocating a subdomain only for your home web server01:16
huywhat does that mean?01:16
huysorry, i'm learning alot here01:16
flaccidare you going to get hosting?01:16
huyeventually yes01:17
huybut now now01:17
huy*not01:17
flaccidif you wanna host the TLD, then change the A record01:17
huyok01:17
flaccidtld being top level ie. riotstudios.net01:17
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flaccidyou may need to unpark the domain at godaddy01:18
huyyes01:18
flaccidas the nameservers are01:18
flaccidpark16.secureserver.net01:18
flaccidpark15.secureserver.net01:18
flaccidare you paying them for dns hosting?01:18
huyhmm i just pay for the domain01:18
huydoes that mean i pay for dns hsting?01:18
flaccidare you sure they are giving you free dns hosting?01:19
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huyi don't know. I bought a domain anem with them01:19
huyand they park my domain at their server01:19
huywhich is forward to my server01:19
flaccidcpk2: says 14.95 a year here http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/01:20
flaccidits not forwarding atm01:20
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huyso if you do a tracert you will see their server instead of mine01:20
flaccidwtf01:20
flaccidah i see01:20
huyi know01:21
huyi am confused01:21
flaccidi'm not01:21
huyif you do a www.riotstudios.net you get my website on my computer01:21
flacciddoesn't look like you have dns hosting01:21
huybut if u do a tracert you get their server01:21
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flaccidi can't see any forwarding01:22
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flaccidi'll try the traceroute01:22
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flaccidbasically they are not giving you free dns hosting01:23
huyyea their server is f*cked at the momment01:23
flaccidwhy ?01:23
huyi dont know01:23
huyfor some reason i cant access my site through www.riotstudios.net01:24
flaccidthen it can't be fucked01:24
huybut i can access it though my direct ip01:24
huyi could yesterday though01:24
huyjust to day its acting up01:24
flaccidwhat dns server are you using01:24
huyum none yet01:24
huythat's why i came here to ask if i need one01:25
flaccidwell thats why01:25
flacciddns server resloves name to ip01:25
flaccidif you don't use a dns server you cannot access any domain01:25
huyhmm i could usually access it01:25
flacciddns changes..01:25
flaccidwhat does host riotstudios.net return?01:25
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huy 64.202.189.17001:26
huythat's not my ip01:27
flaccidexactly01:27
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flaccidand if you do a wget riotstudios.net there is no HTTP forwarding01:27
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huyyea they must have turned it off01:27
flaccidso basically you need proper dns hosting01:28
huyyes i guess so01:28
flaccidor you could set up your own dns with bind9 like you said01:28
flaccidbut its not good idea01:28
huyyep and that's not recommended01:29
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huyi thought purchasing a domain name automatically gives you a dns01:29
flaccidhow much is dns hosting with go daddy01:29
flaccidnope01:29
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flaccidonly authority on the domain01:29
flaccidyou then need two components01:29
flacciddns and hosting01:29
huy60 for 3 years01:29
yamalthe website at ip 64.202.189.170 does try to load a a frame from 60.241.227.110, seems like some "web forwarding" service01:30
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huyyea there is01:30
josh_who uses freenx?01:30
flaccidyamal: i think huy put that in himself01:30
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robyns-hereanyone here know much about the kubuntu packages on their website?01:31
huythey have a domain config screen01:31
huyand there is a website forwarding01:31
yamalthen he could change that right where he created that01:31
huyso i just put that in01:31
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flaccidheh but your right, could be dodgy godaddies version of forwarding01:31
huyyea it only work for http01:31
sebsebsebHow can I find out what my saved auto log in password is for  ICQ in Gaim in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?01:32
huywow, and i thought purchasing a domain automatically means you can start hosting website on your computer01:32
flaccidhehe nah you need dns01:32
robyns-heresebsebseb, you could try looking in configuration editor in ubuntu01:32
flaccidwhat country you in huy?01:32
huyaus01:32
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flaccidme too01:34
huyaussie aussie aussie01:34
flaccidheh and i own hosting business01:34
robyns-hereoi oi oi01:34
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huyheheh01:35
flaccidgo the broncos01:35
robyns-herecrows01:35
huysydney siders?01:35
flaccidli'm a sydney sider01:35
robyns-herenup, adelaide01:35
flaccidbut moved to hobart01:35
huyomg why?01:35
flaccidstudy01:35
robyns-herebrrr cold in hobart01:35
flaccidmild winter it was01:36
huyalot of wierd stuffs in hobart01:36
flaccidlike?01:36
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huyhavent you heard about tassie?01:36
huypeople say they all inbred01:36
flaccidyeah01:37
flaccidits not like that but01:37
flaccidhttp://www.editdns.net/01:37
flaccidthere is some free dns hosting01:37
flaccidinfact google search shows many01:37
huyis that yours?01:37
flaccidnegative01:37
huyah what hosting business are yours?01:38
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flacciddns hosting with me is prolly 20 bux a year01:38
huy20 means nothing for a business01:38
flaccidi can do you hosting for 5 bux a month01:39
flaccidbut yeah hey pm if you wanna talk01:39
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huyhosting ... as in webhosting?01:39
flaccidthe free dns option is there for you if you wanna run all your stuff from home01:39
huyomg i cant even access godaddy site01:39
huyis it down for you?01:39
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flaccidnope seems ok for me01:40
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flaccidhmm huy seem to dissappear lol01:40
huyprobably got hacked01:41
flaccidu there or you going to timeout?01:41
huysorry was chatting with my wife01:41
flaccidheh you not responding to whois or ctcp01:41
huyif you can host ruby il host with you01:41
flaccidlet me check01:41
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flaccidthis box don't have ruby01:42
flaccidbut i wanna support01:42
flaccidwhat does it require?01:42
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huyrails01:42
flaccidruby on rails?01:42
flaccidis that with apache01:42
huyyep01:42
huywith apache or lighthtpd01:43
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flaccidparticular package you prefer?01:43
huyapache201:43
huymod_fcgi01:43
flaccidis that mod what ruby provides?01:44
huywith mysql backend01:44
huyyep01:44
huywe're talking about $us? or au$01:44
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flaccidau01:44
huy5 bucks a monh is not bad01:44
flaccidits us hosting01:45
huyhow much bandwdth?01:45
flaccidpm01:45
huylol i can't i ssh my home box01:45
huyand irc through there01:45
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huyi dont know how to use cli irc hehehe01:45
flaccidbitchx01:46
p0w4hhello im doing: apt-get install build-essential.  it keeps asking to put the kubuntu cd into my drive but i don't have it.01:46
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huywell my email is huy@riotstudios.net01:46
huysend me your info and details01:46
flaccidp0w4h: change your /etc/apt/sources.lst01:46
flaccidhuy: pm01:46
p0w4hok thanks01:46
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huyflaccid: i can't buddy, im using a command line irc01:47
huyi cant have multiple windows01:47
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flaccidok01:48
huywhat are you studying in hobart?01:48
flaccidcomputing01:48
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huywhy did you go all the way to hobart?01:49
daurnimatortasmania sucks01:49
flaccidneed a change01:49
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huyuts, usyd have them01:49
flaccidand you can't do a course like this in brisbane or sydney01:49
huywhat kind of course? game?01:49
flaccidnah straight computing01:49
huywhat do you mean straight computing01:49
flaccidsoftware engineering major and stuff01:50
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flaccidonly open source/FOSS01:50
huyyou can do that at uts01:50
flaccidcept java01:50
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huyi did mine at uts01:50
flacciddidnt like some of the units01:50
huyoss is up to you01:50
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huythey teach you the theory01:50
huynot the tools01:50
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flaccidyes01:51
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hyperdoes kubuntu install by default a firewall?01:51
huydo you know of any game dev channel ?01:51
flaccidbut you use an implementation as an example01:51
flaccidnope01:52
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huyhyper: no01:52
flaccidhuy can you chat to me in #huy01:52
hyperhuy: thx... but now that is strange :(01:52
huyhyper: you can install it, follow the ubuntuguide01:52
hyperhuy: I'm trying to get the webcam through amsn to work01:53
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hyperhuy: it says either I'm firewalled or behind a router... well I'm behind a router but I do forward the ports....01:53
benkong2Can a normal user issue a shutdown command? When I want to shutdown all I get is suspend | hibernate|logoff and then I gop back to the login screen and have to choose Alt-S. I want to be able to choose shutdown from the normal menu.01:53
benkong2Is this possible ^^01:53
huydid you forward to port from your router to your computer?01:53
hyperhuy: yes I did... 6890-690 tcp and udp01:54
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hyperI meant -6900 ^^01:55
huyhmmm that is odd01:55
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huycan ubuntu detect your webcam?01:55
huyor kubuntu01:55
hyperhuy: in ekiga the webcam works01:56
hyperhuy: in amsn I get it displayed but can't "configure" it01:56
huyah then its amsn01:57
hyperhuy: hmmm.... thx01:57
hyperhuy: I guess that message appears always if you are behind a router01:59
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hyperhuy: I just tested it with a friend and she can see me :) thx for the hel02:00
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huyhyper: no problem, just don't strip02:01
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benkong2anyone tried NetworkManager in edgy? Is it working?02:01
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benkong2!NetworkManager02:02
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager02:02
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dragonfire1gm02:02
hyperhuy: one more question: do you know where I can change the sound input? so that I can use the webcam mic?02:03
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hyperactually, does amsn support voice?... hmmm, I guess I have to go for Skype02:05
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huyexit02:15
[renbolicious] wow02:16
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[renbolicious] !mp302:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:18
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mafuDoes anyone by chance know the difference between tetex3 and Livetex2005? I want to use Kile, which depends on tetex3, and I have been using livetex until now, but the two systems seem to conflict, so I have to choose. Any help? :)02:22
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grotheskHi!02:27
Arlingtonhi all!02:27
grotheskHow do I enable configurartion for a Logitech Dual Optical in kcontrol.02:27
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grotheskIt keeps saying me, that there might be a rights problem.02:27
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benkong2why does apt want to uninstall f-spot openoffice.org and many many more packeges stating that they are nolonger required?02:29
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Arlingtonin windows Ctr-Alt-2 makes @ but in kubuntu i must press Alt Gr. is it possible to fix this02:35
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Arlingtonis there anyone who can hel with ^^^02:36
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rampage i cant open adept02:40
rampage plz help02:40
Arlingtonwhat does it say?02:40
rampage it saying su returned with error02:40
Arlington!adept02:40
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:40
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rampage well i cant open it n nothin written on how to to solve these02:42
Arlingtonhave you tried the kubuntu forums? searching for that exact error message?02:43
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rampagenope02:43
rampagelink ?02:43
Arlingtonwww.kubuntu.com there is a forum link at the top02:43
Arlingtonrampage: http://kubuntuforums.net/02:44
Arlingtonrampage: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=search02:44
rampagek02:44
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qkrI installed kubuntu and now I am trying to compile a C program with gcc and it doesn't find the stdio.h header file.02:47
qkrcan anyone help?02:48
Arlingtonqkr: sorry02:48
Arlingtonrampage: did you find anything?02:48
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[renbolicious] !ati02:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:50
qkrno-one can help me?02:51
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[renbolicious] !ati02:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:54
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koboihello02:57
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koboic est quoi la derniere version de amsn ??02:57
dinosaur-rusqkr: I hope you wrote "#include <stdio.h>", not "#include "stdio.h""02:57
dinosaur-ruskoboi: please speak English02:58
koboi#kubuntu_fr02:58
koboic est quoi deja le lien ?02:59
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dinosaur-ruskoboi: this is #kubuntu, here we speak English03:01
dinosaur-rusnot French03:01
Arlingtonanyone know when the folder /etc/hotplug/usb/ appears or why i don't have it?03:01
octancan anyone explain to me what a syn flood is?03:02
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dinosaur-rusoctan: it's when some host sends lots of SYN (connection establishment) packets to screw its victim03:04
octandinosaur-rus, what harm can it do?03:05
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DinkAnyone know how to show "text" during the usplash on edgy vs just a bar ??03:06
dinosaur-rusoctan: primarily slowdown due to huge number of packets that must be processed03:06
rampage well at last i have fixed it03:06
rampage if some one cant open adept can msg me03:06
Arlingtonrampage:  how did you solve it?03:06
Arlingtondid the forum help?03:06
rampage by editing /etc/sudoer03:07
octandinosaur-rus, alright,, but does it need to be a syn flag that send? cant it be a ack flag also?03:07
dinosaur-rusrampage: add it to the forum so anyone who needs it can find03:07
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rampageok03:07
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raven79hi all03:07
octantcp flages03:07
Arlingtoncan some one explain to me about /etc/usb/hotplug03:08
Arlington!hotplug03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:08
octan!coldplug03:08
octan:P03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about coldplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
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Arlingtonoctan:  :-D03:09
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dinosaur-rusoctan: dunno, but AFAIK usually SYN-flood is done via raw sockets to get more control (fake sender's IP, ignore other packets)03:09
dinosaur-rus!coolplug03:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about coolplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
dinosaur-rusheh03:09
octanyea.. but there are tcp flags,, such as syn ack fin rst so  on03:09
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flaccidlocate hyu@03:10
flaccidoops03:10
raven79someone could help me to add some repository to my repo lists03:10
[renbolicious] !quake03:11
ubotuQuake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details03:11
[renbolicious] nah03:11
octan!doom303:11
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php03:11
[renbolicious] what do i do with 64bit03:11
[renbolicious] doenst want to run  the 32bit installer03:11
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octanwhat you mean03:12
octanahh03:12
[renbolicious] glibc03:12
[renbolicious] 2.003:12
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[renbolicious] not supportet03:12
[renbolicious] This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown03:12
[renbolicious] (tried to run setup)03:12
octani know :P03:12
[renbolicious] :(03:12
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octanread thiis03:12
octanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457503:12
octanthen you have it working03:12
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[renbolicious] ok03:13
[renbolicious] thx03:13
octannp03:13
main2anyone here using tightvncserver?03:13
main2im able to connect to my tightvncserver, but the kde wm doesnt startup :/03:13
octanheh i tould you to use ssh -X :P last night.03:13
octanyou can start up an entire X with ssh03:14
main2solved.. the problem03:14
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main2octan: an entire x, a kde desktop as well?03:14
soulriderhyello03:14
octanyes03:14
main2(krfb, kept on crashing so i left it..)03:14
Arlingtonoctan:  do you by any change know anything about usb and hotplug?03:14
octanArlington, not much.. sorry03:15
main2octan: could you tell me a bit more about this?03:15
soulriderdoes anyone know where i can get the dapper an the edgy knot 2 color schemes? or how i can export them form a machine that has them ?03:15
octanmain2, thers alot of howtos on google03:15
Arlingtonanything? i motsly wonder why i don't have the directory03:15
dinosaur-rusoctan: do you want to say Kubuntu doesn't have 32-bit apps support out-of-the-box?03:16
octandinosaur-rus, ?03:16
raven79sorry some could, please tell me where i can add repositories? ...should be a web site where user can choose their repositories...03:16
rampage well here is the link http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=9506.003:16
rampage^_^03:16
raven79thanks03:17
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octandinosaur-rus, some app are in 32 bits like flash,, and they dont work on 64 bit so you need to run them in 32 bit inside the 64 bit system03:17
raven79rampage: where i must add it?03:17
dinosaur-rusoctan: I mean does freshly installed Kubuntu allow working with 32-bit apps?03:17
Arlingtonrampage dosn't that mean that you've made all your users to roots?03:17
Arlingtonthat wouldn't be good.03:17
rampagenope03:17
Arlingtonokay.03:17
rampageonly the u ser u want03:17
dinosaur-rusoctan: what about regular apps like web-browsers, etc?03:17
Arlingtoni'am just a newbie ;-D03:18
rampageu can also disable root acess03:18
Arlingtonokay nice :-D03:18
octandinosaur-rus, you can use etc firefox in 64 bit,, but without flash03:18
Arlingtondo you know anything about hotplug an usb?03:18
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octanflash is a closed code03:18
octanand they only support 32 atm03:18
host-oneciao03:18
rampagenah ^_^03:19
soulriderArlington: what do you mean with hotplug an usb?03:19
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dinosaur-rusoctan: so 64-bit Kubuntu can't run 32-bit apps without some magic dances? :P03:19
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Arlingtonsoulrider: my logitech mouse can't send it's info to xserver because of some conflict and to solve this i need to add a script to the folder /etc/usb/hotplug. all according to kubuntu help. but i don't have the folder03:20
octandinosaur-rus read the link i pased its the magic ,,03:20
Arlingtoni meant KDE where i wrote xserver03:20
octanmain2, http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html03:21
main2thanks octan :-))03:22
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Arlingtonsoulrider:  etc/hotplug/usb03:22
octanmain2, np03:22
soulridererr, no idea Arlington, sorry03:23
Arlingtontoo bad.03:23
Arlingtondo you have that folder? (just curious)03:23
dinosaur-rusoctan: ohh, it seems I need voodoo magic to be able to run 32-bit apps like Opera03:24
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DHGEArlington: there is a script and a config-file for my logi-mouse in there03:25
octandinosaur-rus, are you considering installing 64?03:26
octanim using it,, :)03:26
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Arlingtonyeah that's what i wanna have too. but the directory dosn't even exist on my box...03:26
octanand have both java and flash working, thou running in 32 bit, instead of exec firefox i do firefox3203:26
ArlingtonDHGE:  yeah that's what i wanna have too. but the directory dosn't even exist on my box...03:27
DHGEArlington: boot with a live Kubuntu (if you have ...) and copy the files from there03:27
Arlingtonbut i've installed from a livekubuntu...03:28
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dinosaur-rusoctan: I'm gonna install Kubuntu 6.10 for x64, but I use Opera which doesn't have 64-bit version03:29
rampagesoftware installed by adept is default installed on  /usr/local03:30
rampage???03:30
cox377I'm looking to get a wifi dongle, does anyone have any recommendtions for one that would work right out of the box under kubuntu?03:30
octandinosaur-rus how many app do you use that is in only 32 bit?03:31
dinosaur-rusoctan: two apps03:31
octandinosaur-rus, let me guess opera and flash ?03:31
dinosaur-rusoctan: ah, 2 apps and flash03:31
octanright, and you only do that step once for each app.. and when you want to run then use appname32 instead of appname simple as that03:32
dinosaur-rusoctan: damn, 3 apps and flash03:32
octandinosaur-rus, what apps?03:32
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dinosaur-rusoctan: Opera, Flash, Avast! Antivirus (I don't have working Internet under Windows, so...), Adobe Reader03:33
Arlingtoncox377:  my d-link works very nice03:33
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octandinosaur-rus, since you only have thouse few apps running in only 32 you should defantly install 64 bit03:34
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gileshey yall03:35
octandinosaur-rus, and once ther ported to 64 bit on delete the 32 bit version :)'03:35
dinosaur-rusoctan: yeah, but I thought/hoped there'll be less promlems with 32-bit apps... Windows is much better in this way (don't hurt me for these words)...03:36
gilesI was wondering, Ubuntu has its package manager "Synaptic", whats the Kubuntu equivlent?03:37
buzadept03:37
octandinosaur-rus, ? you got a 64 bit version of windows ?03:37
dinosaur-rusoctan: yes03:37
octanyuuwe03:37
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gilesbut Synaptec allows you to download anything and search, while Adept only lets you update core files03:38
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cox377Arlington: Hello again, did it work straight in?? no need for ndiswrapper in other words?03:38
octandinosaur-rus, i dont see the problem.. i have one synaptic32 for 32 bits app and one synaptic for 64 bit apps03:38
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Arlingtonno just had to tell it the wep password and it was good to go.03:41
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cox377Arlington: really?? sounds goood.. do u have a model No.?03:41
Arlingtonyeah hold on.03:42
cox377Arlington: cheers03:42
dinosaur-rusoctan: I meant 64-bit Windows doesn't need ANY special manipulations for installing and running 32-bit applications at all! that thing is completely transparent to the user03:42
estasy90vedrai che ci capisco molto..03:42
ArlingtonSwl-G122 version B1 Firmware ver 2.0303:43
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octandinosaur-rus, this is linux,., it require some loving and care :p so you have to do it your self :P03:43
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dinosaur-rusoctan: :)03:44
Arlingtoncox377: make that dwl ---->03:44
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dinosaur-rusoh, is Kubuntu kernel HIMEM-enabled? the question is stupid for 64-bit system, but I'd want to precaution :P03:46
Arlingtoncox377:  i don't know if it's availible in all countries tjough...03:46
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cox377Arlington: cheers for that, which country did u buy it in?03:49
Arlingtoni'am a swede :-D03:50
dinosaur-rusoctan: hmm... the last post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187542 says that 6.06 doesn't need chroot for 32-bit apps... I'm confused :S03:50
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Arlingtoncox377:  hope it works fine for you too. not all that expensive either right?03:53
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cox377Arlington: nah shouldnt be03:55
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octandinosaur-rus, well i would like to know how he does that03:55
rampage amarok wont play mp3s help03:56
Arlingtoncox377: good luck then03:56
MistaEDdinosaur-rus: afaik, the biggest problems now is that apt needs to force-install i386 stuff on amd64, and of course 32-bit plugins don't work under 64-bit firefox without installing the 32-bit firefox manually03:56
Arlingtonrampage: you need to download codecs.03:56
rampage from where ??03:56
Arlingtonrampage: do it through adept.03:56
rampage links ??03:56
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MistaEDbut there's no need for a chroot afaik03:57
rampage wanna install it offline03:57
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Arlingtonrampage: impossible i think... :-(03:57
rampage where installed files by apt is stored ??03:57
Arlingtonrampage: they arn't stored i believe just installed....03:58
Arlington!repositories03:58
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:58
rampage temp stored some where ?03:58
rampage apt-get amarok say already new version installed03:59
dinosaur-rusoctan: I found info that 6.06+ doesn't need chroot in all rather new threads03:59
octani see hes using lib3204:00
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rampage ??04:00
Arlingtonrampage: it's not amaraok you wan't to update04:00
rampage then ?04:00
octandinosaur-rus, then better for you :P now goahead an install :P04:00
dinosaur-rusoctan: yeah, but at first I need to backup all important data :)04:01
rampage tell me the format of apt-get install ...???04:01
Arlingtonrampage: stop ?? and then?? i'am working on your asnwer.04:01
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rampage ok] 04:02
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Arlingtonapt-get install libxine-extracodecs04:03
rampageok04:03
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Arlingtonrampage: btw it's in multiverse...04:03
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rampagehm04:03
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mini_gamer1896arlington: shouldn't it be sudo...04:03
mini_gamer1896?04:04
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Arlingtonmini_gamer1896: sure it would be bu he asked for the apt get format04:04
Arlingtonmini_gamer1896: *but04:04
mini_gamer1896oh, sry04:04
rampage04:04
rampagePackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:04
rampageThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:04
rampageis only available from another source04:04
rampageE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate04:04
hyperhiya, I have problems with pairing my headset... I always get  "Pairing not allowed"04:04
hyperHi abattoir :)04:04
Arlingtonrampage:  you must enable multiverse,,,04:05
rampagenot working04:05
rampagehow to enable ??04:05
Arlingtonthrough adept04:05
Arlingtonopen adept04:05
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Arlingtonrampage: then manage repositories04:06
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rampagethen04:07
abattoirhi hyper :)04:07
abattoirhyper: got edgy installed? ;)04:07
hyperabattoir: webcam in amsn runs fine... however I can't pair my headset04:07
Arlingtonrampage: then the line that starts with deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com in the field that says components press there and enter multiverse04:07
hyperabattoir: haven't updated to kde4 ^^04:07
abattoirhyper: in edgy?04:08
abattoirhyper: i mean the pairing issue04:08
Arlingtonrampage: did you follow?04:08
hyperabattoir: yes, it's in edgy04:08
rampageman04:08
abattoirhyper: bt in edgy has some issues04:09
rampagei am not gettin http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/04:09
hyperabattoir: oh.... :(04:09
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hyperabattoir: I get the webcam to run in edgy.... but not the headset :(04:09
abattoirhyper: try sudo hciconfig hci piscan04:09
Arlingtonokay what line do you have then?04:09
abattoirhyper: after that see if it pairs04:09
Arlingtonrampage: *lines04:10
rampagei am gettin deb http://us.archeive ......04:10
abattoirhyper: if it doesn't, you might need to compile bluez-utils manually04:10
Arlingtonwell then add multiverse there....04:10
Arlingtonrampage:  or what does it say further down taht line?04:11
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dinosaur-rusdamn how can I get directory size?04:11
rampage all deb line startin with http://us. ???04:11
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Arlingtonrampage: what distro are you on?04:12
emonkeyrampage, no there can be some they start with ftp://04:12
rampagekubuntu04:12
Arlingtonwich build?04:12
rampage6.0604:13
rampagedrapper drake04:13
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Arlingtonrampage. in the field  far to the right of the window. called components.04:13
rampagey04:13
hyperabattoir: well, still no luck :(04:13
abattoirhyper: any errors?04:14
hyperit just won't let me pair04:14
Arlingtonrampage: what do you have any one that says universe or multiverse?04:14
rampageyup it say04:14
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Arlingtonwhat does it say?04:14
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Arlingtonuniverse right?04:14
hyperOct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : link_key_request (sba=00:0E:A1:33:70:FA, dba=00:0D:44:3B:7D:B9)04:14
hyperOct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : pin_code_request (sba=00:0E:A1:33:70:FA, dba=00:0D:44:3B:7D:B9)04:14
hyperOct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : call_passkey_agent(): no agent registered04:14
rampage main reistricted universe and multiverse04:14
wimpiesHow can I connect to my mysql db using openoffice database ?04:15
hyperabattoir: I never got a box or request for the key04:15
wimpiesI tried with odbc and with jdbc but both fail04:15
Arlingtonwe do you have one that's syas only universe?04:15
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Arlington*says04:15
rampage yup04:15
abattoirhyper: ok, you need to make some minor tweaks04:15
rampage 4 says likr that04:15
Arlingtonis it greyed or black?04:15
rampage universe04:15
abattoirhyper: you should change the pin_helper in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf to /usr/lib/kbluepin04:15
rampage grey04:16
hyperabattoir: I googled and tried everything I found... but no luck04:16
abattoirhyper: and i think you'd need to compile bluez-utils04:16
MetaMorfoziShi all, my laptop reboots instead of shutting down if i click on kmenu -> logout -> shutdown04:16
MetaMorfoziSwhy?04:16
MetaMorfoziSplease help me.04:16
Arlingtonthen press it and then press the button in the middle called confirm(?)04:16
hyperabattoir: I have this -->           pin_helper /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin;04:16
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v3ctorwimpies: http://www.unixodbc.org/doc/OOoMySQL.pdf#search=%22connect%20openoffice%20mysql%20%2204:16
hyperabattoir: that's where the proggy is04:16
Arlingtonsorry just right click the field and choose enable.04:16
abattoirhyper: hmm, that's surprising, must have been fixed... see if that file actually exists04:17
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Arlingtonrampage: can we take this through pm?04:17
abattoirhyper: also check if you have /usr/bin/pin-wrapper(or any other variation of that)04:17
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hyperabattoir:04:19
hyperhyper@hyper-kubuntu:/usr/lib/kdebluetooth$ locate kbluepin04:19
hyper/usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin04:19
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ririhi04:19
ririi just update04:19
abattoirhyper: ok, the pinwrapper?04:20
ririkubuntu edgy beta04:20
ririand now neither adept nor apt-get works : segmentation error ?04:20
hyperabattoir: no pin-wrapper04:20
ririis there a way to correct this ?04:20
j2daoshhow do i get music to play through freenx?04:20
Arlingtonrampage: did it work04:20
abattoirhyper: any other variations of pin* ?04:20
hyperabattoir: just pinky in that folder04:21
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j2daoshanyone know how?04:21
hyperhyper@hyper-kubuntu:/usr/bin$ ls pin*04:21
hyperpinky04:21
abattoirhyper: they you'd have to download the sources for bluez-utils, modify the Makefile and compile it04:21
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hyperabattoir: never modified a Makefile ^^04:21
rampagenope04:21
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hyperabattoir: gonna be my first time... :)04:22
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abattoirhyper: there's always a first to everything ;)04:22
wimpiesv3ctor : thx it works ;)04:23
hyperabattoir: just bluez-utils? or the other packages also?04:23
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abattoirhyper: bluez-utils should be fine04:23
abattoirhyper: run configure, and then ping me04:23
abattoirbrb04:23
v3ctorwimpies: np04:23
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hyperabattoir:  checking for BLUEZ... configure: error: Bluetooth library is required04:24
abattoirhyper: ok, then get bluez-lib too :(04:25
hyper^^04:25
intelikeyyou know how if you access/open a tty then you can switch to it even if it's no longer active  (any console users here?)  does anyone know what it is in the startup process that might be accessing tty 5 & 6 ?     my [alt] +[left-arrow]  should go from tty1 to tty4 (i modified inittab) but there are two blank ttys between them. 5 and 6 which should not have been opened by anything that i can think of.   any thoughts ?04:25
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hyperabattoir: configure run fine.... make also.... for makeinstall do I need to do that as sudo?04:27
abattoirhyper: no, wait a sec04:27
mini_gamer1896ok, i'm using 6.06, have kde, gnome, and xfce installed, and have a problem with xfce showing the toolbars when translucency is setup anywhere in kde; any suggestions?  Have asked in #xubuntu but am getting no answer after ~10min04:27
hyperabattoir: well, I'm still at the bluez-libs04:27
Pensa`MIAmy grub menu is loaded with older kernels, can I just remove the older kernels from the adept package manager?04:27
abattoirhyper: oh, run make install too on it then04:27
hyperabattoir: as sudo right?04:28
abattoirhyper: its bluez-utils that we need to modify04:28
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abattoirhyper: yup04:28
intelikeyhyper yes as root04:28
hyperabattoir: now configure in the utils I get this:    checking for DBUS... configure: error: dbus > 0.35 is required04:29
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hypertest04:31
hyper:)04:31
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hyperabattoir: now configure in the utils I get this:    checking for DBUS... configure: error: dbus > 0.35 is required04:32
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wimpiesHow can I edit records from a Database table from OpenOffice Database (V3ctor ?)04:32
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raveeshcan anyone help me?04:33
abattoirhyper: you should have that installed... else install it 'sudo apt-get install dbus'04:33
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raveeshamaroK not bing updated04:33
intelikeymini_gamer1896 i'll answer you, although i don't know anything about your particular issue.  this kde that ub 6.6 is using is screwy from the word go.  it writes to and reads from  /root  even though you may never run sudo/kdesu... that should not happen!   and no telling what else is (hosed) in it.  i suspect that kde is writing to a dir that xfce is looking in for config info.04:34
dinosaur-ruslol before cleaning my home directory up I had 5.1GB used and 3.8GB free, now I have 3.8GB used and 5.1GB free04:34
hyperabattoir: it's the newest version (dbus is already the newest version.)04:35
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intelikeydinosaur-rus 3.8G is a lot for just the installed system.  you must have some added data files (mp3 ogg or something)04:35
raveeshanyone? kindly reply04:36
abattoirhyper: i wonder why you get that error message then04:36
hyperhow to find out what version it is?04:36
hyperdbus -v?04:36
abattoirhyper: was there any dbus related package on the bluez site?04:36
mini_gamer1896intelikey: k, was suspecting the same myself, thanks04:36
abattoirhyper: apt-cache show dbus04:36
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dinosaur-rusintelikey: I have entire Linux (including home directory) on one partition, and this is my current Linux, I haven't installed Kubuntu yet04:37
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hyperabattoir:  Version: 0.93-0ubuntu204:37
hyperabattoir: just bluez- libs / utils / firmware / hcidump / gnome04:37
intelikeymini_gamer1896 a way to test that would be add a user account that never starts kde.  you can test xfce in that account and set everything the same as in the account that does use kde  then compare the home dirs.04:38
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mini_gamer1896intlikey: k04:39
abattoirhyper: weird, i don't understand why it complains04:39
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intelikeymini_gamer1896 also if you are using kdm as your graphic login manager  it may affect that test.   maybe use startx for that account.04:41
hyperabattoir: well, I don't understand either :(04:41
hyperoh well04:41
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abattoirhyper: pastebin the exact error msg04:41
intelikeyldconfig04:41
abattoirhyper: along w/ the entire configure run(if possible)04:41
intelikeyhyper run  ldconfig    it can't hurt anything.04:41
intelikeyas root ^04:42
mini_gamer1896intelikey, am using the xfce default logon04:42
intelikeymini_gamer1896 k  it seems same enough.04:43
mini_gamer1896sry, am having to wait for a download to start the test04:43
intelikeyi've not noticed any problem with xdm04:43
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nomadsoulhi04:45
intelikeynomadsoul04:46
nomadsouldoes anybody know if i can have kubuntu in italian?04:46
nomadsouli have dummy users here04:46
hyperabattoir / intelikey:   http://www.phpfi.com/15945504:46
nomadsouland have to use kde in italian :P04:46
High|anderare there any specific channel for edgy?04:46
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hyperwhat does ldconfig do?04:46
nomadsoul(this is my first time with kubuntu)04:46
dinosaur-rushyper: it updates you libs loading cache04:47
intelikeynomadsoul sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales   should allow you to set the default lang04:47
abattoirhyper: try installing libdbus1-dev04:47
dinosaur-rushyper: "man ldconfig" will say you more04:47
hyperabattoir: v04:48
hyperE: Couldn't find package libdbus1-dev04:48
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hyperdinosaur-rus : thx04:49
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intelikeyhyper newer linux distros are pretty automated now.  but we used to have to manually run ldconfig when new librarries were installed so the compiler could find them.   just thounght it wouldn't hurt to give it a whack.04:49
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abattoir!info libdubs-1-dev04:49
ubotuPackage libdubs-1-dev does not exist in any distro I know04:49
abattoir!info libdbus-1-dev04:49
ubotulibdbus-1-dev: simple interprocess messaging system (development headers). In component main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 289 kB, installed size 748 kB04:49
Arlingtoni'am looking for a mac styled program launcher...04:49
intelikeyback in the day.  as they speek04:49
abattoirhyper: ^^^ i missed a -04:49
Arlingtonwhere can i find it? if i could?04:50
hyperabattoir: trying now :)04:50
abattoirArlington: a docker?04:50
abattoir!info kxdocker04:50
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB04:50
abattoirArlington: ^^^^04:50
Arlingtonthanx :-)04:50
abattoirhyper: does it also install libdbus-1-2 ?04:50
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hyperabattoir: now configure run fine04:50
hyperabattoir: did only install libdbus-104:51
abattoirok, goo04:51
abattoir*good04:51
intelikeygoo goo  ?04:51
hyperabattoir: wow... thx so far :) I owe you a six-pack :)04:51
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abattoirhyper: don't smoke ;)04:51
hyperabattoir: now you said modify the makefile?04:52
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abattoirhyper: one sec, go to hcid subdir04:53
abattoirMakefile.in there04:53
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abattoirhyper: wait wait wait04:54
intelikeydinosaur-rus hehhe i back my system up....   i have never yet broken my data; but, the system is another story.  :)04:54
hyperabattoir: yes, Makefil.in is in the subdir hcid04:54
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Agiofwsmy freind wants to play mp3's on his fresh kubuntu can anyone help ?04:55
hyperAgiofws: well, install a driver.. I recommend amarok04:56
abattoirhyper: Makefile, rather than Makefile.in04:56
hyperups, not a driver, a proggy04:56
MHazemups ?04:56
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Agiofwsamrok  is not  a driver04:56
abattoirhyper: look for noinst_PROGRAMS = passkey-agent$(EXEEXT)04:56
dinosaur-rusintelkey: I'm preparing my Linux partition for formatting and installing Kubuntu, so I must back up my data04:56
Agiofwsok ..04:56
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raveeshi have the same problem04:56
abattoirhyper: comment that line(add a # before it)04:56
CVirus!mp304:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:56
CVirusAgiofws: *04:56
raveesheverythings fine04:56
CVirusAgiofws: ^04:56
hyperabattoir: done04:56
CVirusAgiofws: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats04:56
intelikeydinosaur-rus yeah i was making a 'pun'   even if it wasn't a good one.04:57
abattoirhyper: ok, now run make and sudo make install04:57
Agiofwshybrid, CVirus   whats the apt-get package  fro kubuntu ?04:57
raveeshdoes anyone know how can i install the libxine-extracodecs04:57
abattoirhyper: then stop and restart bluetooth04:57
Agiofwssynaptic ?04:57
abattoirraveesh: do you have multiverse enabled?04:57
CVirusAgiofws: cant you just read the freakin' page ?04:57
Agiofwsdoes he install it with synaptic ?04:57
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CVirusAgiofws: you're not a ubuntu user ?04:57
Agiofwsno04:57
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Agiofwsmy freind is04:57
CVirusAgiofws: try to bring him here and I could help04:58
hyperabattoir: how to restart bluetooth? ^^ there's no entry (or used to be none) at /etc/init.d/bluez-utils :)04:58
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abattoirhyper: /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart ;)04:58
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CVirusAgiofws: is he using Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?04:58
hyperabattoir: bt restarted04:58
AgiofwsKubuntu04:58
hyperabattoir: (no error message so far ^^)04:59
hyperAgiofws: isn't amarok installed by default on kubuntu?04:59
intelikeyAgiofws so do a  wget  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats04:59
Agiofwsand then  where does he save themm ?05:00
Agiofwsyes he has amrok05:00
Agiofwsintelikey,  ?05:00
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hyperabattoir: still pairing not allowed05:02
abattoirhyper: did you run that command?05:02
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hyperabattoir: I run:   btsco -v 00:0D:44:3B:7D:B905:02
Agiofws If you are using the version of amarok that comes by default with Kubuntu 5.10, install gstreamer0.8-mad. ?05:03
MHazemAgiofws: sorry .. dc'ed05:03
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abattoirhyper: meant sudo hciconfig hci0 piscan05:03
CVirusAgiofws: tell him to do the following05:03
hyperabatoir: not yet ^^05:03
Agiofwsdoes he have to do this via synaptic ?05:03
abattoirAgiofws: you friend is running breezy?(5.10) ?05:03
hyperabattoir: I run it now05:03
CVirusAgiofws: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/oldsources.list && kate /etc/apt/sources.list and add those lines http://rafb.net/paste/results/laIGsm23.html05:03
dinosaur-rusomg, the .tar archive with my home directory is ~1.2GB... :S05:03
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CVirusAgiofws: sudo apt-get update05:04
Agiofwswhat does kate do ?05:04
hyperabattoir: when I run now btsco -v .... still no pairing allowed05:04
Agiofwshe is running 6.0605:04
dinosaur-rusAgiofws: it's a text editor05:04
CVirusAgiofws: are those steps done ?05:05
Agiofwsnot yet05:05
intelikeydinosaur-rus i said that seemed big for just a linux system  you have 2G of user space data05:05
abattoirhyper: it works/worked in dapper?05:05
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Agiofwsbut add which lines  ?05:05
intelikeyor more05:05
abattoirhyper: if it works there, then my advice is to wait for it to be fixed in edgy05:05
Agiofwsadd which lines  ?05:05
hyperabattoir: in dapper I got the pairing to work and it reacted on the volume settings... but never could get audio to run itself05:06
Agiofwsto  /etc/apt/sources.list ?05:06
CVirusAgiofws: all the lines in the link I gave you05:06
dinosaur-rusintelikey: I have lots of source from different CVS/Git/SVN repositories05:06
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hyperabattoir: I had the hope that it might run better in edgy :)05:06
intelikeyyep there is it.05:06
CVirusAgiofws: add them to his /etc/apt/sources.list05:06
Agiofwshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  this one ?05:06
CVirusdamn05:06
Agiofwswhich link ?05:06
CVirusAgiofws: http://rafb.net/paste/results/laIGsm23.html05:06
abattoirhyper: as i said, there is a bug in upstream bluez-utils, so i guess you have to wait for that to be fixed in edgy05:06
Agiofwsok05:06
CVirusAgiofws: not the link itself ... but the lines inside05:06
hyperabattoir: thx :)05:06
Agiofwsi'll tell him05:07
hyperabattoir: very kind of you to try and help me05:07
CVirusAgiofws: line 1 to 805:07
abattoirhyper: :), sorry i couldn't be of better help ;)05:07
hyperabattoir: well, you did your best and invested quite a bit of time05:07
CVirusAgiofws: are you done yet ?05:07
abattoirhyper: glad you see it that way :)05:08
hyperabattoir: so no need to say sorry... I have to say thanks for that :)05:08
CVirusAgiofws: cant your friend use IRC ?05:08
Agiofwshe is but  not another server yet05:08
Agiofwshe is on grbet05:08
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CVirusAgiofws: why the hell cant he join this server ?!05:08
Agiofwsnet*05:08
Agiofwsdoes not know  how to yet05:09
hyperabattoir: too bad it didn't work out... could have written a small howto on how I got it to work05:09
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CVirusAgiofws: is he done ?05:09
Agiofwswait its telling hime command not found05:09
Agiofwshes in the forst step05:09
CVirusforst ?05:10
CViruswhats a forst !!05:10
CViruswill you please be productive ?!05:10
Agiofwsfirst*05:10
CVirusyou're wasting my fucken time05:10
Agiofwsi am trying05:10
CViruswhich command isnt found ?05:10
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Agiofwsi am in the m iddle here05:10
CVirusAgiofws: let him join the freakin' server then05:10
AgiofwsCVirus,   this is what he gets05:11
Agiofwsthemis@themis-desktop:~$ sudo mv/etc/apt/sources.list/etc/apt/oldsources.list05:11
Agiofwsthemis_ Password:05:11
Agiofwsthemis_ sudo: mv/etc/apt/sources.list/etc/apt/oldsources.list: command not found05:11
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Agiofwswtf ?05:11
CViruswtf with you ?05:11
CVirusyou arent copy and pasting my instructions05:11
trappistAgiofws: you need a space between mv and the first /05:11
Dr_willismv /whatever (note the space)05:11
CVirusAgiofws: scroll up and copy it properly05:11
Agiofwshuh05:11
CVirusAgiofws: scroll up05:11
CVirusAgiofws: and copy the command properly05:11
Agiofwsi did he typed it wring05:12
Agiofwswrong05:12
CVirusthis isnt my fault either05:12
hyperabattoir: Hmmm, I guess I'm gonna try and get it work now in6.06.....05:12
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hyperbrb05:13
CVirusAgiofws: cant he edit a file ?! .. more than 10 minutes to edit a freakin' file ?05:13
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Agiofwsi know05:13
Agiofwsi'm in a hurry here as you are05:14
Agiofwsok he moved the file05:14
CVirusAgiofws: you should have asked him to join this server05:14
CVirusAgiofws: the first command was a rename of the file sources.list ... the second command {the one after the &&} will create a new file with the same name so that you could add the lines I gave you to it05:15
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Agiofwsi know05:16
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Agiofwsi'm telling him ti edit the file now05:16
caseyomahI want to unpartition a drive (/dev/hdb) that currently has one partition (/dev/hdb1). How do I do that?05:16
Agiofwshow does kate close ?05:17
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hyperback again05:17
intelikeyCVirus so rather than two steps why didnt you say "cp old new"    :)05:17
dinosaur-rusAgiofws: lol05:17
Agiofwsi could tell him to use vi05:18
CVirusdamn .. you dont know how kate closes and you want him to use vi05:18
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AgiofwsCVirus,   i don't use kate05:19
=== Dr_willis spends 70% of his day in a state of confusion.
=== intelikey avoids vi like the plague
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mini_gamer1896intelikey: i made a new user and overlayed a new session;  logged on to xfce, and had to restart that xserver session, because no toolbars nor the ablilty to right click appeared05:19
v3ctorDr_willis: is that near Oregon?05:19
Agiofwsvi is ok for me05:19
=== Dr_willis for one welcoms out VI Overlords.
Dr_willis:)05:19
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CVirusAgiofws: will you edit the file in whatever way ?05:19
Dr_willisvi does have a gui. :P its just a very simple gui05:20
CVirusGUI editors arent as powerful as test based editors05:20
mini_gamer1896intelikey: am going to log out and try without the overlay05:20
CViruslets stick to topic anyway05:20
CVirustext*05:20
Agiofwsthemis_ themis@themis-desktop:~$ sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:20
Agiofwsthemis_ X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16605:20
Agiofwsthemis_   Major opcode:  14405:20
intelikeymini_gamer1896 good idea05:20
Agiofwswhats that now05:20
CVirusAgiofws: its okay05:20
Agiofwsi though he moved it05:20
trappistAgiofws: those are X warnings.  you can ignore them.05:20
Agiofwsok05:20
Agiofwsso where does he add them ?05:20
Agiofwsat the end ?05:21
trappistAgiofws: they come from having the wacom stuff in the xorg.conf05:21
Dr_willis uninitialized input device 166    --> is due to the wacom tablet entry in the xorg.conf file. I think.05:21
CVirusAgiofws: the file shou05:21
intelikey!start an editor war05:21
CVirusdeb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start an editor war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
CVirusdeb-src http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse05:21
CVirus05:21
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CVirusdeb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse05:21
CVirusdeb-src http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse05:21
CVirus05:21
intelikeythe bot's no fun anymore05:22
CVirusdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse05:22
CVirusdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse05:22
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CVirusoops05:22
CVirusdamn05:22
CVirusAgiofws: the file should be empty !05:22
abionnnnhas anyone had any trouble running xfig under kubuntu/ubuntu?05:22
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Agiofwsoh ok i though those were in the file05:22
CVirusAgiofws: I really dunno what you're talking about ... I'm sorry I can not help you any longer since you're acting like a stupid newbie05:23
trappistCVirus: please observe the CoC05:24
trappist!CoC > CVirus05:24
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Agiofwsi am not acting like a stupiod newbei i am just truing to help05:24
CVirus!CoC05:24
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/05:24
tristanmikeAgiofws: don't listen to him, we only let him out for some air05:24
Agiofwsand maybe  if kate woyld not show thos stupid messages i wouyld not be confused now05:24
CVirusthis is too much really05:25
caseyomah!partition05:25
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks05:25
mini_gamer1896intelikey: ok, i got on and it pulled up properly via the test user account; should i remove the kde settings from my folder?05:26
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abionnnnI guess this channel is too big for anyone to run xfig ?:P05:26
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intelikeymini_gamer1896 that should affectively reset it.   something like  rm ~/.kde -R05:27
AgiofwsCVirus,  should he paste  the lines ass they are exactly   in the   in url ?05:27
Agiofwswith the deb part infront ?05:27
Agiofwsor only the urls ?05:28
tristanmikeif you're installing repos, then yes with the "deb" part in front05:28
intelikeyit is possable mini_gamer1896 that another .* config file is affecting it.05:28
mini_gamer1896intelikey, could be, most of the mess started when i activated the bagira style05:28
Agiofwshow do you save a file using kate ?05:30
intelikeymini_gamer1896 may i sujest you do something like    for this in /home/<other_user>/.* ;do [ -f `basename $this` ]  && diff `basename $this` $this ;done05:30
Agiofwsok he saved it  intelikey05:31
Agiofwsnow05:31
intelikeyto compare the configuration files in the two home dirs05:31
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Agiofwssudo apt-get  ?05:31
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intelikeyupdate05:31
intelikeyAgiofws> sudo apt-get  ?     ?==update05:32
tristanmikeAgiofws: sudo apt-get update05:32
Agiofwssudo apt-get update05:32
Agiofwsok05:32
caseyomahWithout using QTParted or GParted is there a way to remove a partition?05:32
Agiofwsafter that will he have the gfreakin m,p3 codecs ?05:32
intelikeycaseyomah sure05:32
intelikeyfdisk05:32
Agiofwsor does he have to do more magic ?05:33
intelikeycfdisk might like you better05:33
Agiofwscfdisk05:33
tristanmikeAgiofws: after you install them, yes :D05:33
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mini_gamer1896intelikey, sry, am not that proficient in bash lingo |  i understand the first segment, should i directly copy everything else thereafter verbatem?05:33
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Agiofwswhat does he have to install ?05:34
intelikeymini_gamer1896 all but the <other_user>   it needs translated.05:34
mini_gamer1896k05:34
Agiofwstristanmike,  ?05:34
tristanmikeAgiofws: sorry, didn't know you were talking to me....for mp3 in Kubuntu ?05:35
Agiofwsyes please if you could05:35
CVirusAgiofws: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:35
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Agiofwsok05:35
tristanmikeAgiofws: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:35
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tristanmikeAgiofws: that site has a whole bunch of things to install05:35
CVirustristanmike: he doesnt want to reamd05:35
CVirusread*05:35
CVirusand yet he needs our help05:36
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CVirusAgiofws: tell your friend to read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:36
tristanmikeCVirus: you need more patience05:36
rexbron!libxine-extracodecs05:36
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB05:36
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narasim_7i installed kubuntu from 6.06 desktop cd..i have ubuntu 6.06alternate cd05:36
intelikeyCVirus are you a doctor ?05:36
CVirustristanmike: I guess so05:36
tristanmikeyou have to remember what it was like when we knew nothing05:36
CVirusintelikey: I'm still a student05:36
intelikeyoh  patience  not  patients05:36
intelikeysorry05:36
caseyomahI'm getting "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive05:36
caseyomahPress any key to exit cfdisk" on "cfdisk /dev/hdb" (the drive I want to unpartition)05:36
narasim_7i used aptcdrom to add ubuntu cd ... but i cannot install gnome now05:36
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trappistCVirus: if you don't want to help him, don't help him.  kindly refrain from interfering with others trying to help him patiently.05:37
tristanmikeLOL @ intelikey05:37
Agiofwsno he's ok i heard worse05:37
CVirustrappist: sure05:37
CVirusAgiofws: I apologize05:37
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intelikey:)05:37
AtKaaZ!logs05:37
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs05:37
narasim_7 i installed kubuntu from 6.06 desktop cd..i have ubuntu 6.06alternate cd i used aptcdrom to add ubuntu cd ... but i cannot install gnome now05:37
Agiofwsno need to05:37
tristanmikewe all friends here :D05:37
abionnnnnarasim_7: I hope you don't plan on running xfig!05:37
Agiofwsi'm ok so are you05:37
intelikeytristanmike all but me.05:38
narasim_7abionnnn: i dont understand05:38
tristanmikeyeah, intelikey is a big jerk, don't listen to him05:38
intelikeylife would be dull without any enemies05:38
tristanmike:P05:38
thewheatI have a problem w/ edgy, i cant play .mp4 files anymore. got any help?05:38
intelikey:)05:38
AtKaaZcan X.org run while in framebuffer mode using nvidiafb?05:38
trappistthewheat: #ubuntu+1 for edgy help05:38
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narasim_7abionnnn: i used apt-ddrom to add the cd but when i do a apt-get install gnome-desktop it says no packages found05:38
tristanmikehows it comming Agiofws ?05:39
thewheattrappist: thanx :)05:39
caseyomahnarasim_7: ubuntu-desktop is the name of the package05:39
intelikeyAtKaaZ i think so.05:39
intelikeyAtKaaZ i haven't tested that.05:39
narasim_7caseyomah: ok..will try and let u know05:39
Agiofwsok he  is loading the codecs05:40
AtKaaZintelikey ok. I guess I need xorg version that runs with framebuffer (trying to find it now)05:41
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caseyomahWhat is the right variable pass for oKle added the the media "DVD Video Disk"?05:41
intelikeyAtKaaZ xserver-xorg-driver-fbdev  ???05:42
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AtKaaZintelikey yes apparently I've to specify fbdev instead of nv or ndivia on the driver section, but now I seem to be missing some fonts including 'fixed'05:42
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intelikeyhmmm yeah  fb isn't using defoma    hmmm05:43
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intelikeyAtKaaZ i don't know what to tell you there.  maybe someone that uses x can step in05:44
AtKaaZintelikey i've no idea what defoma is :)05:44
AtKaaZintelikey thanks for your help ;)05:44
intelikeynp05:44
nomadsoulintelikey: what time is it?05:44
nomadsoulintelikey what time is it?05:44
nomadsoulintelikey: are you a bot?05:45
AtKaaZ:)05:45
intelikeyDescription: Debian Font Manager -- automatic font configuration framework05:45
intelikey Defoma, which stands for DEbian FOnt MAnager, provides a framework05:45
intelikey for automatic font configuration.05:45
intelikeyAtKaaZ ^05:45
AtKaaZyep, got it thanks05:45
intelikeyit's still kinda new and growing05:46
intelikeyi think *buntu introduced it with 6.605:46
DaSkreechnomadsoul: It is a bot :-)05:46
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narasim_7caseyomah: may be i will install them from the repositories itself , thanks05:47
intelikeynomadsoul :)05:47
caseyomahnarasim_7: No problem.05:47
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intelikeythe time is 15:48 gmt05:48
AtKaaZany idea how to fix this? Couldn't open RGB_DB '/etc/X11/rgb'05:48
narasim_7one more thing....my alternate cd is hanging while installing xorg..i tried with my friends ' alternate cd also .. but i can install from desktop cd..any clues?05:48
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intelikeyAtKaaZ permissions issue   probably something not suid=root05:49
narasim_7configuration P4 2.4 845gvsr no  video cards other than onboard05:49
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intelikeyAtKaaZ how did you call X ?05:50
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AtKaaZintelikey: startx05:50
caseyomahLOL I figured out the problem with cfdisk, I forgot to su. lol05:50
intelikeyls -l `which startx`   see if it's +s05:50
narasim_7ok bye..everyone05:50
nomadsoulAtKaaZ: can i have kubuntu in italian?05:50
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AtKaaZintelikey I can actually see the screen + mouse cursor for a few msec there :) after that I'm back to console05:51
AtKaaZnomadsoul I don't know :P05:51
nomadsouli'll ask to the bot05:51
nomadsoulintelikey: can i have kubuntu in italian?05:51
DaSkreech!it05:51
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:51
intelikeymay need a ~/.sxession file AtKaaZ05:51
AtKaaZintelikey it's not +s :)05:51
intelikeynomadsoul yes you can.05:51
nomadsoulintelikey: how?05:52
intelikeyrun kconfigure   and select your language05:52
nomadsoulintelikey: tnks05:52
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nomadsoulintelikey: as root?05:52
intelikeyas user05:53
nomadsoulintelikey: i do not have kconfigure05:53
intelikeyunless you want to set it system wide05:53
AtKaaZintelikey you are right something complains about missing ~/.xsession file what do I put in it? kde?05:53
DaSkreechintelikey: Me either05:53
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intelikeyDaSkreech then give him the propper name05:53
intelikeyi don05:53
intelikey't05:54
Agiofwsadept updater  does kubuntu have anything like  mpg123 ?05:54
intelikeyhave kde05:54
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trappistAgiofws: yes, it has mpg123.  and mpg321.05:54
nomadsoulintelikey: i do not have kconfigure05:54
mini_gamer1896intelikey, ok, this is going to take more time than i have right now, so am going to put this on hold; thanks for you assistance05:54
AtKaaZintelikey should i use /etc/X11/Xsession ?05:54
intelikeymini_gamer1896 np05:54
DaSkreechintelikey: You mean kcontrol?05:54
intelikeyyes DaSkreech05:54
DaSkreechnomadsoul: run kcontrol05:54
nomadsoulDaSkreech: bu ti do not have italian inkcontrol :P05:55
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intelikeyAtKaaZ echo "rxvt05:55
Agiofwsok it worked  thanks for the help05:55
trappistnomadsoul: try systemsettings05:55
intelikeyAtKaaZ echo "rxvt" > .xsession05:55
intelikeyi keep bumping the enter key.   sorry for the typos.05:55
tristanmikeAgiofws: glad to hear it :D05:56
DaSkreechnomadsoul: Try in System Settings then05:56
nomadsoultrappist: isn't systemsettings the same as kcontrol??05:56
DaSkreechYeah :)05:56
trappistnomadsoul: not exactly05:56
trappistserves the same purpose, but it's a different app05:56
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intelikeyAtKaaZ you can use any command that you wish to use for the base session.   twm, xfce4-session, kde-session,  yada yada yada...05:57
intelikeyas long as it's installed05:57
nomadsoulby the way i can only select Italy as my country but i still have only US or British English as language05:57
nomadsouldo i have to aspt-get something?05:58
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intelikeynomadsoul install the i18's05:58
nomadsoul*apt-get05:58
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nomadsoulintelikey: what i18n'2?05:58
nomadsoulintelikey: what i18n's?05:58
nomadsouli do not see it in aptitude05:58
zorglu_!languagr05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languagr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
zorglu_!languages05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
zorglu_i know there is a keyword for it05:59
zorglu_!locales05:59
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf05:59
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zorglu_there is a better one05:59
AtKaaZintelikey thanks it worked with konsole05:59
zorglu_!i18n05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i18n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
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trappistzorglu_: if you're not sure exactly what you want (or even if you are, and it's just for you) you can ask the bot in private message so as not to spam the channel06:00
trappistzorglu_: as in, /msg ubotu i18n06:00
zorglu_:)06:01
intelikeynomadsoul   language-support-it - metapackage for Italian language support  <-- for one.06:01
nomadsoulok06:01
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nomadsoulit says that it is not possible to find language-support-it06:02
DaSkreechnomadsoul: kde-i18n-it can't kill either :)06:02
intelikeyopenoffice.org-l10n-it - Italian language package for OpenOffice.org06:02
igoranybody knows how i get the codecs to watch any king of films on the Kaffeine player??06:02
igori use kubunto06:02
igor:T06:02
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DaSkreech!codecs > igor06:02
zorglu_so no idea on the page on which all of them are regrouped ?06:02
nomadsoulDaSkreech: I think i have to update my source.list06:02
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DaSkreechnomadsoul: try language-pack-it06:03
ccci'm trying to add a new, extra hd on my system but i fear the new disk is dead. 'sudo fdisk -l' should show ALL connected disks, right?06:03
ccceven non mounted devices, that is06:03
igorDaSkreech: ok...i'll try..thanks06:03
intelikeylanguage-pack-gnome-it - GNOME translation updates for language Italian  <--- if you use gnome06:03
DaSkreechnomadsoul: can't find kde-i18n-it ?06:03
nomadsouli only have language-pack-en06:03
herasHi06:03
nomadsoulor language-packe-us-kde06:03
nomadsoulapt-get update?06:04
intelikeylanguage-pack-kde-it - KDE translation updates for language Italian06:04
intelikeylanguage-pack-kde-it-base - KDE translations for language Italian06:04
intelikeynomadsoul there   ^06:04
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nomadsoulintelikey: yes i searched that way but found nothing06:04
DaSkreechWhere are you searching?06:04
ubuntucan someone please help me to install lilo from live CD ??!06:04
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intelikeynomadsoul i got that from apt-cache search language-pack-kde | grep -e '-it'06:05
intelikeytry it and see if it shows06:05
DaSkreechNikola-kv: You are trying to rescue a computer?06:05
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_Lisa_Digg: http://digg.com/tech_news/Pagerank_update_now_Visible06:05
Nikola-kvyup06:05
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nomadsoulintelikey: i think i have to correctly compile /etc/apt/source.list06:05
DaSkreechNikola-kv: What Distro was on it before?06:06
igorDaSkreech: should i just write : !codecs ....on the console???06:06
herasI just installed klibido, but am unable to figure out how to operate it. Can't find anyting in KDE help center.06:06
nomadsoulcan someone give me his source.list?06:06
DaSkreechigor: No ubotu should have sent you a message06:06
DaSkreech read the links from there06:06
Nikola-kvsuse06:06
DaSkreechnomadsoul: did you try a sudo apt-get update ?06:06
intelikeynomadsoul "apt-cache search language-pack-kde | grep -e '-it'         try it and see if it shows,  if not you have not the correct repos setup06:06
igorDaSkreech: yeah!06:06
igor:)06:06
DaSkreechigor: ok Read those they should help you06:07
nomadsoulDaSkreech: yes it does nothing because the whole source.list is commented..06:07
Nikola-kvI also have kubuntu on other partition, but I cant load it now ...06:07
Nikola-kvi fixed mbr from winXP cd06:07
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Skalordhi06:08
DaSkreechnomadsoul: That might be a problem :)06:08
DaSkreechAhhh06:08
DaSkreech!grub06:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:08
nomadsoulDaSkreech: can you give me your source.list?06:08
DaSkreechNikola-kv: read the REcovering Link06:08
Nikola-kvok, thx06:08
Skalordcpk2 ..`> have i got to do security copies of my files before installing kubuntu?06:08
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AccLeeJunFan: are u here, or do u idle?06:10
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Skalordhave i got to do security copies f my files before installing kubuntu?06:11
nomadsoulintelikey: my dcc doesn-t work06:11
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nomadsoulcan someone paste his source.list on nopaste?06:11
fdovingSkalord: i'd recommend it. but it's not essential if you know what you're doing :)06:12
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intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse06:12
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse06:12
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Skalordfdoving ..`> well i dont know anything about linux lol06:12
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse06:12
fdovingSkalord: then i'd recommend backups.06:12
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intelikeythere   that's all you "need"  ^06:12
Jan-ppi have an x session running remotely over nx. if i start azureus, the splash displays. if i go into the java config dialog, it works. if i go into nano, nothing happens. screenshot: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9550/zwischenablage01gz5.png - if i click now, the menu goes away and thats it06:13
Skalordfdoving ..`> but the problem is it takes a lot of time cause i have 15 gb i wouldn't like too get lost06:13
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nomadsoulintelikey: thank you06:13
intelikeynomadsoul np06:14
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Skalordfdoving ..`> how can i do a fast backup or something like that06:16
fdovingSkalord: dvds or something.06:16
Skalordfdoving ..`> but 15 gb takes so long :(06:17
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intelikey15G    have a spare hd ?06:18
DaSkreechnomadsoul: Take intelikey's06:18
Skalordno 15 gb is what id like to save06:18
nomadsoulDaSkreech: ??06:18
intelikeySkalord i got that.  i was asking if you had a spare hd to put it on06:18
DaSkreechSkalord: Do you have 15 GB of space to put em somewhere?06:18
DaSkreechnomadsoul: Sorry catching up  :)06:19
nomadsoul:P06:19
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Skalorditelikely what exactly is a spare id :s06:19
Skalordintelikey*06:20
intelikeynot id  hd   as in  hard drive06:20
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intelikeyfixed disk drive as it's sometimes called06:20
Skalordi dont know :s i have a 1gb memo ive found lol06:20
intelikeyig memn   that's not a meno that's full collection of dime store novals06:21
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intelikey1G ^06:22
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root___  how to install packages tthrough console ???06:24
DaSkreechroot___: First Don't login as root :)06:24
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fdovingroot___: apt-get install06:24
intelikeyroot___ apt-get install package-name06:24
rampage lol ok06:24
DaSkreechsecond it's apt-get install <packagename>06:24
rampage  ok06:24
Hawkwindsudo apt-get install <package> actually is correct :P06:25
HawkwindThough logged in as root, guess the sudo isn't necessary06:25
HawkwindHah06:25
DaSkreechYeah I took that into consideration06:25
intelikeyHawkwind unless package-name was the real name of the package to be installed   :)06:25
egarimwhen edgy will be released in november or early?06:26
Hawkwindintelikey: Hah.  We all know that's been done a million times too06:26
DaSkreechYeah I was wondering what's the difference between the package and the packagename06:26
Hawkwindegarim: Sometime this month06:26
DaSkreechSince I almost always use package name06:26
DaSkreech!schedule06:26
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:26
egarimHawkwind: are u sure this month ?06:26
DaSkreechegarim: Read ^^ :-)06:26
Hawkwindegarim: Yes, hence the 6.10 version number06:26
egarimok thank you06:26
HawkwindMeans the 10th month of 200606:26
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=== intelikey goes to build a meta package called "package" that depends on apt lol :)
Arlingtondoes some one know if it's possible to make Ctrl-Alt for like Alt Gr as they do in windows?06:27
Hawkwindintelikey: LOL, that'd be funny06:27
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intelikeyty06:27
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egarimso if the UniverseFreeze is alredy done the packages will not changed ?06:28
egarimonly the kernel ?06:28
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intelikeyooops06:28
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Arlingtondoes some one know if it's possible to make Ctrl-Alt for like Alt Gr as they do in windows?06:29
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intelikeyArlington yes it is.06:29
intelikeybut now don't ask me how.06:30
intelikey:)06:30
rampage  installing packages offline06:30
rampage  ???/06:30
caseyomahWhat command line variables are there for "Storage Media"?06:30
intelikeyrampage you can put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/  and still use apt to install it.   or  dpkg -i package.deb06:31
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intelikeycaseyomah man mount06:31
caseyomahThank you.06:31
intelikeyor you may be asking about cdrecord ?06:31
caseyomahThat's not what I'm looking for I mean %u...06:33
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Arlingtonintelikey: grrr. tell me now! or i'll eat ya!06:33
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zorglu_Arlington: 'menu -> system setting -> personnal -> regional + accesibility' is where you can configure your keyboard06:34
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intelikeyArlington in the gui, i suppose you are refering to ?     kde has key bindings app of some sort06:34
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intelikeyah yes zorglu_ got you Arlington06:35
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zorglu_ALL: it is for a poll, what is your output for "du -s /var/cache/apt/archives"06:36
Arlingtonzorglu_: THANX!!06:37
zorglu_Arlington: cool :) what is your output for  "du -s /var/cache/apt/archives"06:37
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zorglu_this command wont hurt anybody :) it is just a way for me to know the size of your apt archives06:39
DeadS0ulwhich command?06:39
zorglu_du -s /var/cache/apt/archives06:40
zorglu_303136 <- this is mine06:40
DeadS0ulgood ol' du06:40
zorglu_show me yours :)06:40
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DeadS0ulmeh why isn't kopete connecting to msn >|06:40
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zorglu_ok nobody want to answer my poll....06:41
intelikeyzorglu_ why would it matter....   you can clear the archive cache with   sudo apt-get clean06:41
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DeadS0uli'm updating atm06:41
zorglu_intelikey: it does matter to me to get this info :)06:41
intelikey1172156/var/cache/apt/archives06:42
intelikeythere's mine06:42
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zorglu_intelikey: thanks06:42
jtholmesHawkwind: are you around06:42
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intelikeybut i don't clear it.  i'm on dialup and if i reinstall i don't want to re-download all that06:42
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zorglu_intelikey: yep it is not cleared by default06:43
DaSkreech1097810 /var/cache/apt/archives06:43
zorglu_this spammer comes like once a day trying to split the ubuntu community06:43
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zorglu_DaSkreech: thanks06:43
intelikeyzorglu_ normally for anyone that has high band width  i would just sujest clearing it.06:43
caseyomahI'm looking for the autostart %vars in KDE's Removable Media.06:43
intelikeyif you do updates you will have several versions of blah.deb in there06:44
DeadS0ulanyone able to connect with msn on kopete here?06:44
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tristanmikeDeadS0ul: I'm on it right now06:45
rampage how to install packages which are in /var/cache/apt/archives/06:45
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DeadS0uleven kmess doesn't work06:46
jtholmesBeing a long time Linux user i know how I would handle this. the question is a windows person has all 40g of his only hard drive as his C: drive so would that person have to run live cd and know how to use parted to create  swap and space for ubuntu before installing from live cd?06:46
rampage??06:46
intelikeyrampage sudo apt-get install package06:46
intelikeyrampage what is the package in question ?06:46
rampage codec libs06:47
jtholmesI dont have any means to experiment because I dont use Windows06:47
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intelikeyrampage sudo dpkg -i "codec libs.deb"06:47
rampage apt-get dpkg -i is not working06:47
zorglu_jtholmes: there is a page on the web and the bot explaining this06:47
intelikeybut i don't think you gave me the real name :)06:47
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jtholmeszorglu_: in the wiki or else where, do you know the url06:48
zorglu_jtholmes: but i dont remember it exactly and trappist told me not to test it06:48
zorglu_jtholmes: nope06:48
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Hawkwindjtholmes: I do believe I am :)06:48
trappistzorglu_: test it in private message, is what I said06:48
jtholmeszorglu_: who is trappist06:48
intelikeywhat error rampage ?06:48
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zorglu_trappist: yep sorry for the incorrect report06:48
zorglu_jtholmes: here he is  :)06:48
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jtholmeszorglu_: is trappist on06:49
rampageE: Invalid operation dpkg06:49
trappistrampage: it's not apt-get dpkg -i, it's just dpkg -i06:49
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Joel-Widemanhello06:51
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jtholmesHawkwind: good missed you reply do you happen to see the long message i wrote about 1-2 minutes ago about windows users installing ubuntu on c: only dirve06:51
buzdoes linux realplayer contain spyware?06:52
intelikeythen you did type that "apt-get dpkg -i ..."   hehhe i thought so... you don't use both commands.  either apt-get or dpkg  not both.     rampage sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*cod*.deb06:52
intelikeyrampage copy and paste that ^ starting at sudo to the end of post.06:53
rampagethen06:53
jtholmesHawkwind: long and short of it if a windows users has only one drive and it is taken up by their C:  slice and there is no space left do they have to run parted to create swap and space for installing ubuntu06:53
Joel-WidemanI'm trying to set up my kubuntu box as a print server - printing works fine, but no other computers (both another kubuntu box and a winxp) can't send to it.06:53
intelikeydoes it error ?06:53
jtholmesHawkwind: point me to the url if there is one06:54
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intelikeyJoel-Wideman set cups to listen to the network ?06:54
intelikey!cups06:55
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:55
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intelikeyJoel-Wideman ^06:55
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intelikey       http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing06:55
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intelikey         https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:55
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Joel-WidemanI'm having trouble configuring cups in kubuntu. The system settings gui refuses to accept any username/password when i try to configure the print server, and pointing firefox at port 631 gives me a message that i can't configure it that way06:56
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Joel-WidemanAm I simply going about it the wrong way?06:57
Arlingtonzorglu_: is it possible to add your own commands in some way?06:58
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zorglu_zorglu_: ?06:58
DaSkreechJoel-Wideman: What docs ahve you read on CUPS?06:58
Arlingtonzorglu_: we spoke about Ctrl-Alt having same funciton as Alt Gr06:58
DeadS0ulArlington: khotkeys06:59
DeadS0ulset'em to waht you want06:59
zorglu_Arlington: im no expert as configuring keyboard on kubuntu :) i told you all i knew :)06:59
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Arlingtonzorglu_: okay :-)07:00
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Hawkwindjtholmes: I don't use Windows anything, sorry07:01
intelikeyrampage i forget how frustrating it is to be new to linux.   i should have pointed out that dpkg  is the debian package manager   and it requires exact path and file name   ./ is assumed if no path is used.   while apt is the advanced package management frontend to dpkg  apt uses the configuration file /etc/apt/sources.list to read the path and a database file  which contains a list of the packages in the repositories lis07:01
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ArlingtonDeadS0ul: in wich repos is that? coulodn't find it among mine...07:02
jtholmesHawkwind: neither do I. However i am trying to help some folks convert to Linux and that is where the question came from07:02
Joel-Widemanerr... It's been awhile since I've read CUPS docs and maybe I'm just missing something there, but it was my understanding after searching for kubuntu print server issues that kubuntu needs some tricky configuring because it breaks cups print serving.07:02
jtholmesHawkwind: thanks07:02
Hawkwindjtholmes: Might ask someone that knows Windows then.  I have nothing to do with that OS in over 4 years now07:03
Joel-WidemanAs I said, local printing works fine.07:03
DaSkreech!cups07:03
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:03
jtholmesHawkwind: ok thanks07:03
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intelikeyrampage thus apt needs only the general package name.   an examplt of each.    1. dpkg -i /some/place/package-name-version3.4.5-ubuntu.deb     would install the package package-name-version3.4.5-ubuntu.deb      2.  apt-get install package-name   would install that same package from the repos if it's listed in the database.07:03
DeadS0ulArlington: go to System Settings -> Accessibility and Regional Settings07:04
Arlington DeadS0ul: in wich repos is that? coulodn't find it among mine...07:04
rampageoh07:04
rampagethx inte07:04
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DeadS0ulThere's Keyboard Shortcuts, which is more standard keyboard input07:05
buzhow can i print from acroread7? (kpdf doesnt display the pdf properly)07:05
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DeadS0uland there's input actions which is damn flexible07:05
intelikeytherefore the conclusion is this.  if you have a file.deb that's not in the database use dpkg to install it manually.  if you want a package that is in the database use apt-get install <name> to install it an all it's dependancies automaticly.07:05
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Arlingtonyeah but how can i configure them at my own will?07:05
DeadS0ulconfigure what exactly?07:06
Arlingtontaht would be xkb options right?07:06
DaSkreechintelikey: Might want to help setup his repos while we are explaining?07:06
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narasim_7sudharsh: hi07:06
intelikeyDaSkreech na that's another error down the road.  lets not make linux unbareable07:06
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sudharshnarasim_7: hi..07:06
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DaSkreechLInux bares all!07:07
narasim_7sudharsh: from ldtp?07:07
sudharshnarasim_7: yup07:07
narasim_7sudharsh: great07:07
intelikeybut it's not borne of all07:07
zorglu_evil telnet which send command07:07
Arlingtonin windows Ctrl-Alt is same as Alt Gr button07:07
intelikeymmmm telnet07:07
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intelikeyhacker wet dream07:07
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zorglu_intelikey: it sends 5byte of command when you close it :) spend 10min on that :) thinking it was a bug in my code07:09
DeadS0ulAlt Gr?07:09
Arlingtonright Alt called AltGr on swedish  board07:09
intelikeyzorglu_ :)07:09
DeadS0ulyou want to set up a keyboard layout?07:09
Arlingtonyes :-)07:10
DeadS0ulahh07:10
amachuhi07:10
amachuhow do i telnet to a remote server07:10
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MotorCityMadMancan kmail be configured to access yahoo mail ?07:10
DeadS0ulsystem settings -> regional and accessibilty -> keyboard layout..07:10
DeadS0ulthre's a swedish layout there, add it07:10
Arlingtonwell i've been there...07:11
zorglu_amachu: 'telnet thehostnameoftheremoveserver'07:11
zorglu_amachu: but ssh is prefered for security07:11
amachussh?07:11
zorglu_!ssh07:11
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/07:11
DeadS0uland you've set it?07:11
intelikey!ssh07:11
Arlingtoncan't make (at) or any other third level signs...07:11
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DeadS0uloh07:11
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DeadS0ulI think it'll show an keyboard layout icon in the system tray after that, you have to switch to the swedish keyboard layout using that07:12
DeadS0uloh here's the option07:13
narasim_7sudharsh:07:13
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DeadS0ulhit the xkb option, and scroll down to the third level choosers07:13
intelikeyDeadS0ul & Arlington if it's a system wide change desired wouldn't it be better to change the keyboard layout in xorg.conf ?07:13
intelikeynot to be butting in.07:13
DeadS0ulthere's a global option in xkb..07:14
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Arlingtonintelikey:  it is. but how can i do that change there?07:14
DeadS0ulI dunno xkb settings though heh07:14
jtholmesanyone know the url for installing ubuntu on a single drive windows only box with no free disk space07:15
zorglu_it is accessible trhu system setting07:15
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zorglu_jtholmes: search the website :)07:15
zorglu_!window07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about window - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
zorglu_damn07:15
zorglu_ok trappist i wont apply your advice07:15
zorglu_trappist: this prevent me from helping people, i dont like it07:16
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jtholmeszorglu_: i searched the wiki w/no hits  looks like some said to search bots will do07:16
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zorglu_ok07:16
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intelikeyArlington    line in /etc/X/xorg.conf    ***   Option          "XkbLayout"     "us" ***   from "us" to what ever.     you can set it from   sudo dpkg-recongifure -Plow xserver-xorg07:16
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intelikeyor just edit the file .07:17
Arlingtonyeah i've edited that now.07:17
cpl-tnt44is Kubuntu will be better for my old laptop computer over the regular ubuntu version ?07:17
intelikeychanges take affect on x startup.07:17
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buzcpl-tnt44: better in what respect07:17
zorglu_cpl-tnt44: kde use more resource that gnome, and gnome uses more than xfce, so up to you to see07:17
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buzzorglu_: not wholly true07:18
buzyou can customize kde to be muchlighter than the default is07:18
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raveeshhow do you change icons of shortcuts?07:18
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intelikeyzorglu_ i disagree with the resources claim07:18
buzafaik thats not su much the case with gnome07:18
zorglu_so what would you say ? that gnome uses more that kde ?07:18
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zorglu_that xfce use more that gnome and kde ?07:19
intelikeyzorglu_ my tests have shown gnome to have a biger foot print in ram than kde07:19
buzxfce uses less07:19
buzbut gnome and kde are comparable07:19
buz(with kde doing more for the resources)07:19
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buzwith the possible exception of kmail which is damn resource hog07:19
intelikeyif you want light weight.  use twm07:19
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intelikeyor go commando07:20
intelikey:)07:20
zorglu_hehe :) i only boot in single user :)07:20
zorglu_ok so lets help this guy then07:20
cpl-tnt44zorglu , thanks i'll check the ubuntu first ...07:20
buzcpl-tnt44: try the live cd maybe?07:20
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cpl-tnt44buz , i installed from the live cd the ubuntu 6 ..07:21
intelikeyzorglu_ why single ?     just remove the referance to the *dm in your desired runlevel.   no need to be in single user mode.07:21
cpl-tnt44laterst07:21
buzyou can install kubuntu by doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:21
buzthen you can switch between the two and compare07:21
intelikeybuz or just install kde07:22
cpl-tnt44damn ... im getting an error failed to start Xserver ( your graphical interface ...blablabla ...) what should i do ?07:22
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intelikeyno conflicts that way.... or not as many07:22
buzconflicts? what conflicts07:22
buzi have both on my notebook, no issues whatsoever07:22
cpl-tnt44guyz .. i have a proble, with the install now ... can i get some attension plz07:23
intelikeycpl-tnt44 depends on what the blablabla is07:23
cpl-tnt44"Failed to start the X Server ( your graphical interface) it is likely that it is not set up correctly . would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem "  *** just installed ubuntu on a desktop and moved the hdd back to the laptop and this is the messege i got .. how can i solve this ? ***07:23
zorglu_intelikey: nope in reality i ran unix only in tty up to 2001 and then switch to graphical. now i like it :)07:23
zorglu_cpl-tnt44: you can't move the hd like that :) all the hardward config from the laptop is different from the desktop one07:24
intelikeyzorglu_ i used gui's up to 2k  hehhe07:24
Joel-WidemanOkay. I followed the instructions at those links. From the client kubuntu box, it sees the print server. Printing a test page, it says it was successfully sent. However, the test page doesn't print.07:24
zorglu_cpl-tnt44: this is what confuse the system07:24
cpl-tnt44zorglu_ : so in what step can i move the hdd ?07:24
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cpl-tnt44zorglu_ , cant ubuntu adjust itself ?07:24
zorglu_cpl-tnt44: good question, the easiest would be to reinstall07:25
intelikeycpl-tnt44 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:25
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zorglu_cpl-tnt44: nope it cant07:25
cpl-tnt44zorglu_ : ok ... and not the easiest ?07:25
cpl-tnt44thank inte07:25
intelikeynp07:25
Arlingtonaaaargh anyone who can help a swede with getting (at) and everyother third selection figure to work?!07:25
intelikeyand i would call reconfiguring x easer than reinstalling07:25
zorglu_cpl-tnt44: would be to fix all the issue you would meet along the way, as intelikey give you07:25
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buzArlington: getting WHAT to work?07:26
cpl-tnt44he asks me to autodetect the graphical card should i click YES or NO ?07:26
intelikeyzorglu_ there shouldn't be many issues.   reconfiguring the network and the xserver should about do it.07:26
intelikeyyes07:27
cpl-tnt44ok07:27
zorglu_intelikey: cool then07:27
zorglu_!se07:27
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se07:27
cpl-tnt44card provider ... :??? compaq armada m30007:27
zorglu_Arlington: in case you are not aware of it07:27
Arlingtoni can't make @ signs.07:27
igoranybody knows a good website to get codecs???? i need the realplayer codecs07:27
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intelikeyO.O07:28
Arlingtonand if i get that to work i usually can't make usual letters...07:28
intelikey!realplayer07:28
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cpl-tnt44intelikey , use kernal framebuffer device interface ?07:29
intelikeyArlington what does [shift of #2]   print ?07:29
cpl-tnt44yes or no ?07:29
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Arlington"07:29
intelikeycpl-tnt44 no07:29
intelikeyArlington hmmm interesting...07:29
Arlingtonwell now mysteriously it works. i will dig and get back !07:30
intelikeyArlington did you set xorg to use your keyboard layout ?07:30
igoranybody knows a good website to get codecs???? i need the realplayer codecs07:30
Arlingtonyes of course.07:30
cpl-tnt44interlikey , rebooting , hold your fingers ...07:30
buz!restricted07:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:30
igori'll see07:31
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Joel-WidemanAlso, the windows box says that I'm not authorized to use the printer on the kubuntu box. I did follow the steps in those instructions.07:31
buzspilt white powder on your keyboard or what07:31
intelikeycpl-tnt44 just type startx07:31
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intelikeycpl-tnt44 no need to reboot to test it07:32
cpl-tnt44interlikey "interlikey , rebooting , hold your fingers ..." means i already did07:32
intelikeyhehhe ok07:32
cpl-tnt44interlikey still problem presist07:32
Joel-Wideman!cups07:33
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:33
intelikeyyou didn't get something right. cpl-tnt44   compare  `lshw`   with the settings for the vidio card in your /etc/X/xorg.conf07:33
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cpl-tnt44"startx" - is giving me an log screen ... at the end it says : Fatal server error : no screen found , XIO : fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer ) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests ( 0 knows processed) with 0 events remaning .07:34
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intelikeycpl-tnt44 or pastebin the output of  lshw   and  cat /etc/X/xorg.conf07:34
cpl-tnt44lshw ( i dunno what it means or how to activate it ... plz be more specific since im new to linux )07:35
intelikeyit's a command.07:35
Joel-WidemanIs the information in those documents incorrect for Kubuntu because the print server does NOT work following those directions?07:35
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intelikey you can redirrect the output to a file if need be so      lshw > output.file07:36
Arlingtonnot to bardge in or anything but cpl.tnt44 what videocard do u use?07:36
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cpl-tnt44intelikey , since my laptop dont have any outpot devices i would have to let it go ...07:37
dinosaur-rusuh, I won't install Kubuntu for several months07:37
cpl-tnt44cpltntn44 using ati rage 4 MB on his compaq armada M30007:37
Arlington!ati07:37
intelikeyno output device ?07:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:37
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cpl-tnt44intelikey - i only use external ...07:37
rampage my amarok wont play07:38
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rampage help ?07:38
Arlingtonrampage: what happens?07:38
intelikeycpl-tnt44 headless boxen   i C07:38
rampage my amarok wont play mp307:38
cpl-tnt44ubuntu 5 version worked well ... i dunno why i had to upgrade to 607:38
zorglu_q. when people boot in recovery, what is the graphic mode use ? normal X drivers or does it fall back on fd ?07:38
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zorglu_fd= fb= framebuffer07:38
Arlingtoncpl-tnt44: what driver did u select?07:38
cpl-tnt44intelikey , yeap07:38
cpl-tnt44ATI07:39
rampage ???07:39
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mluser-laptopcould someone please let me know what file I need to edit to have certain kernel modules loaded at boot time?07:39
zorglu_!mp307:39
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cpl-tnt44lets do a step by step of the commands ?07:39
Arlingtonyou should probably get the frglx driver.07:39
rampage i know that stuff@ubotu07:39
morghanphoenixhow do I set up ssh to let my girl access my hard drive from WinSCP?07:39
cpl-tnt44sudo d...reconfigure command ?07:39
buzmluser-laptop: /etc/modules07:39
cpl-tnt44found it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:40
rampage how can i play mp3 in amarok ?07:40
zorglu_morghanphoenix: just lets her login, the scp is on top of ssh07:40
intelikeyzorglu_ i don't know  but it should be  vga=normal  if it's truely a "safe mode"   probably isn't.   look in the  /boot/grub/menu.lst  and see what it is07:40
zorglu_!mp3 > rampage07:40
Arlingtonyou need to get thoose codecs we spoke about earlier.07:40
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Arlingtonrampage:  !mp307:40
buzmorghanphoenix: sudo apt-get install openssh-server07:40
mluser-laptopbuz: thanks :)07:40
buzthen maybe you have to start openssh07:40
rampageyup07:40
rampagehelp07:40
intelikeyzorglu_ frame buffering should not be active in failsafe/recovery mode.07:41
DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: as far I know you apt-get install openssh-server and then give her a login07:41
buz(out of personal experience i recommend to remove certain files first)07:41
intelikeyit probably is in *butnu though.07:41
zorglu_intelikey: indead, it is only 'single + nosplash' for recovery, but nothing about graphic mode07:41
cpl-tnt44intelikey : ok step by step command ...07:41
cpl-tnt44Autodetect video driver ? YES NO ?07:41
intelikeyno07:41
morghanphoenixDo I need to do anything with my router or should that not matter?07:42
intelikeycpl-tnt44 switch tty's and run lshw on the same box and see what the name of the graphics card is.07:42
intelikeyerr headless.  nm.07:42
morghanphoenixopenssh-server07:42
zorglu_morghanphoenix: she need to be able to reach your box. so up to you to see07:42
buzmorghanphoenix: can oyu ping her?07:43
morghanphoenixyes, I can ping her07:43
buzthen your network is fine07:43
intelikeycpl-tnt44 i aint gonna play the headless game today.  ask someone else.07:43
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zorglu_buz: that a optimistic view of network :)07:43
morghanphoenixdo I need to set up opensshserer or is that doen allready?07:43
cpl-tnt44intelikey , can i make it run page by page so i can look at it ? like dir/w ?07:43
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zorglu_!ssh07:43
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/07:43
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buzif you apt-getted it, it's setup07:43
zorglu_morghanphoenix: have you read this page ?07:43
morghanphoenixThanks07:44
buzyou MIGHT need to start it07:44
intelikeycpl-tnt44 yes   lshw | less07:44
cpl-tnt44thanks u .. that should solve it...07:44
rampage help some 1 ?07:44
rampage  playing mp3s07:44
Arlington!mp307:44
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rampage with amarok07:44
rampage i have seen that07:44
Arlingtontehn do what it say!07:45
zorglu_looks like the bot page no more satisfies users07:45
Arlingtonsays07:45
DaSkreechbuz: He shouldn't :)07:45
buzthat usually works with amarok?!?07:45
cpl-tnt44intelikey , it doesnt show the graphical card...07:45
Arlington!repositories07:45
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:45
cpl-tnt44intelikey , it doesnt show the graphical card... nm !!!07:45
Arlington!daept07:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about daept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:45
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buzDaSkreech: who shouldnt do what?07:45
Arlington!adept07:45
DaSkreechrampage: install libxine-extracodecs07:45
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:45
DaSkreechbuz: Have to start it07:45
intelikeyzorglu_ back to the recovery mode   i can't use grub so i have nothing to look at.  but there may be a default  vga= in your menu.lst07:45
intelikeycpl-tnt44 in the less filter hit   /vidio07:45
buzDaSkreech: i know i had to do it once07:45
buzbut other times i didnt07:46
buzso checking cant hurt07:46
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DaSkreechWarty? :)07:46
zorglu_intelikey: yep, thanks i think i will add it, just in case i need it. because it is not there07:46
buzhoary07:46
cpl-tnt44intelikey , DISPLAY : VGA compatible controller , PRODUCT : 3D Rage LT PRO , vendor : ATI ,physical id:5 bus info pci@00:05.0 version : dc07:46
Arlingtonrampage: PM07:46
buzor breezy07:46
intelikeycpl-tnt44 less has built in search function  /<search-string>   for forword  and   ?<search_string>  for reverse search.07:46
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intelikeycpl-tnt44 yuch.... there's part of the problem.07:47
intelikey!ati07:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:47
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intelikeycpl-tnt44 try to just use the vesa driver and see if you can get x working that way.07:47
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cpl-tnt44intelikey , mmm the problem is to move it back to the laptop witch is headless07:48
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Arlingtonintelikey: it's not hard to get that driver!07:48
Arlingtoni did it.07:48
cpl-tnt44ok using the vesa driver is ?07:48
buza headless laptop?07:48
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buznow that sounds rather useless07:48
cpl-tnt44yeap07:48
intelikeyArlington getting it. no.  getting it to work without error.........07:48
cpl-tnt44headless but i can easy remove the HDD and connect it to a usb 207:48
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Arlingtonnot hard for me anyway?07:49
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Arlingtonif nothing else works you must try the hard routes...07:49
cpl-tnt44intelikey , how do i define the vesa ?07:49
buzcpl-tnt44: you could always install openssh-server ;)07:49
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cpl-tnt44openssh-server ?07:49
cpl-tnt44expand on it ?07:49
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cpl-tnt44btw how do i exit from the lshw command ?07:50
buzyeah access it over the net07:50
buzwait a minute, how are you using less without a screen?07:50
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cpl-tnt44laptop , without output like Diskett drives or DVD drive and sort of like not a screan !!!07:51
intelikeycpl-tnt44 please ask someone else.   i don't want to play the headless game....    in the first place you can't get xorg working on a headless box    not the server anyway.   and in the second place we probably aren't even speeking the same language which will only lead to more frustration.07:51
cpl-tnt44screen07:51
morghanphoenixokay, I don't see where it says what the host is, is it my IP or host name?07:51
morghanphoenixKeeps telling me the host doesn't exist.07:51
cpl-tnt44its not head less !!!07:51
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Arlingtoncpl-tnt44:  headless as in graphics card07:51
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cpl-tnt44Arlington , i can see something on the screen , how do u think i write the commands ?07:52
buzmorghanphoenix: try the ip07:52
intelikeyheadless means no vidio-out07:52
buzwithout screen, one can do that you know07:52
buzbonus points for serial console ;)07:53
cpl-tnt44intelikey , i got u wrong i thought headless like in no output devices like cdrom , diskett drives or so ...07:53
intelikeybuz hehhe cheeter07:53
cpl-tnt44not screen !07:53
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DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: can you putty in?07:53
cpl-tnt44i have a regular laptop its just dont have cdrom and diskett drives...07:53
Arlingtonintelikey cpl-tnt44: hahaha07:53
buzeven more bonuspoints if the serial console is on the other end of the world using a portmaster ;)07:53
intelikeycpl-tnt44 see  the second reason in the excuse above... ^07:53
cpl-tnt44:)07:53
ninHerhi all07:54
cpl-tnt44lol !... come on ...07:54
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cpl-tnt44intelikey , im a computer tech guy but english is not my 1st language but i do speak it very well ...07:54
cpl-tnt44it should be an ez problem to solve...07:55
intelikeyok it's not headless.   we can do this then.     (takes a deep breath)07:55
cpl-tnt44ok ..07:55
cpl-tnt44im in lshw command ...07:55
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cpl-tnt44how do i end it ?07:55
buztry q07:55
cpl-tnt44buz , thanks ...07:55
DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: I assume client machine is Windows?07:55
cpl-tnt44ok now what ?07:55
cpl-tnt44X server problem ..07:56
intelikeycpl-tnt44 for all future referances.  all commands will pertain only to the (headless) laptop with a display    ok ?07:56
cpl-tnt44the chip is ati ...07:56
cpl-tnt44lol offcourse !07:56
cpl-tnt44ok07:56
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cpl-tnt44go07:56
buzmorghanphoenix: can the client ping YOU?07:56
intelikeysudo nano /etc/X/xserver.xorg07:57
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morghanphoenixyes, it can ping me.07:57
cpl-tnt44i got into a GNU nano 1.3.10 ?07:57
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DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: Can you putty in?07:57
buzuhm xorg.conf lives in /etc/X11/xorg.conf on dapper?!?07:57
intelikeyscroll down to  Section "Device"07:58
dinosaur-rusbuz: it should07:58
cpl-tnt44buz ,i dont think so bcz im in an edit screen ...07:58
intelikeybuz yes ty.  sorry cpl-tnt44  X1107:58
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morghanphoenixI got it to connect, but it's saying that it can't initialize SFTP07:58
intelikeysudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg07:58
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intelikeyand scroll down to  Section "Device"07:58
morghanphoenixdo I need to install something else on mine, or is the windows client set up wrong.07:58
cpl-tnt44ok how do i exit this screen ?07:58
buzmorghanphoenix: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config if sftp-server is commented out07:58
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intelikeythat defines your vidio card07:58
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intelikeythe instructions are at the bottom of the screen07:59
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cpl-tnt44inte , wait u got in an edit screen Exit = ^X07:59
intelikeyyep07:59
cpl-tnt44ok !07:59
cpl-tnt44i got it07:59
cpl-tnt44now what07:59
cpl-tnt44sudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg ?08:00
intelikeytry it with the correct address ?   you there now ?08:00
intelikeyyep08:00
buzsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:00
cpl-tnt44aint working guyz !08:01
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buztry mine08:01
cpl-tnt44give me a command that works...08:01
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cpl-tnt44i tried !08:01
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DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: What client are you using?08:01
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intelikeyreposting  <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg08:01
intelikeyoops08:02
intelikeyi did say xserver  hah08:02
morghanphoenixonly place it even says sftp is Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server08:02
intelikeybuz take over.08:02
morghanphoenixWinSCP08:02
cpl-tnt44Still !08:02
cpl-tnt44not working08:02
cpl-tnt44buz08:02
buzwhy arent we using dpkg-reconfigure anyway08:02
DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: Hmm I've heard good things about that. I normally use Filezilla though08:02
cpl-tnt44lets use !08:02
buzsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:02
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cpl-tnt44nope .. still get me to the edit screen08:03
morghanphoenixit was the reccomendation in the windows irc channel08:03
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buzcpl-tnt44: that's the point08:03
intelikeycpl-tnt44 nano is a text editor08:03
buzmorghanphoenix: winscp is fine08:03
cpl-tnt44ok ...08:03
cpl-tnt44so it worked fine ?08:04
DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: What error are you getting?08:04
buzmorghanphoenix: the sftp line isn't commented out?08:04
intelikeyscroll down to the section that defines your vidio card.08:04
cpl-tnt44but im getting to an empty text editor with nothing says on it08:04
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morghanphoenixthe line I coppied? No08:04
buzno wonder your X doesnt work08:04
buzwithout configuration it would have a hard time08:04
intelikeychange the driver to vesa     check with buz that i spelled correctly08:04
cpl-tnt44how do i change the driver to vesa ?08:05
morghanphoenixcannot initialize sftp protocol.08:05
cpl-tnt44dpkg ?08:05
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buzyeah you could try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:05
DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: Can WinSCP configure which version of ssh it is using?08:05
cpl-tnt44so lets...08:06
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morghanphoenixit asks 1 or 208:06
morghanphoenixDefault 208:06
DaSkreechThat should be right then08:07
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morghanphoenixIt's okay that the user login for her has no home directory, right? I mean she doesn't use my computer.08:08
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DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: Erm... so when she sftps in what directory does it drop her into?08:09
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morghanphoenixmine08:09
morghanphoenixI'm trying to give her files from my home directory.08:10
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buzher user DOES need a home dir08:11
buzotherwise sftp wont work08:11
mark_Anyone help with sound problem? No audio, not even system sounds, all Kmix settings are up full but nowt comes from speakers???08:12
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DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: so she logs in with your username and passwd?08:13
morghanphoenixno, her user name to my home directory08:13
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morghanphoenixSo, I gave her user a home directory and tried logging in to it, smae error message.08:17
morghanphoenixserver sent command exit status 1.08:17
morghanphoenixshould I try using my login?08:18
mark_I just get a buzz when I use the scroll wheel on the mouse and I laso here a click when I press keys on the keyboard. Any ideas please???08:18
buzyou could08:18
buzbut i dont think it will help08:19
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morghanphoenixWorked with my log in08:20
morghanphoenixthat was wierd08:20
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buzok that IS weird08:20
morghanphoenixmaybe because I'm logged in on this computer?08:21
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morghanphoenixThat's all I can think of.08:22
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morghanphoenixBut thanks, it's working now.08:23
solemnwarningWhen edgy stable gonna be released?08:23
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DaSkreech!schedule > solemnwarning08:26
alfadarhi, I need to joining a kubuntu Workstation to a Windows NT4 Domain, somebody can indicate some documents to read?08:27
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DaSkreechDid they ever sort out that Korroa Lawsuit?08:27
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zorglu_!samba08:28
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:28
zorglu_alfadar: the above link it for you08:28
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alfadarok zorglu_08:31
alfadarThank you zorglu_ and ubotu :)08:31
zorglu_:)08:31
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sYnieHey there. Does anyone know a little tool to convert VCD to MPEG?08:36
buzvcd IS mpeg08:36
sYniebut i'll get errors when i try to view the *.dat file08:37
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buzview in what08:37
sYniemplayer, vlc, ...08:37
buzmhh should work in vlc08:38
DaSkreechIs Edgy shipping with k3b 1?08:38
buzcan you play the vcd in vlc?08:38
zorglu_!info k3b edgy08:38
ubotuk3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB08:38
buzDaSkreech: i think i saw it running on my box once08:38
sYnieyes08:38
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buzmhh must have been wrong then ;)08:38
zorglu_DaSkreech: not currently :)08:38
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DaSkreechOk :)08:38
DaSkreechI hope the new basket gets in at some point08:39
sYnie[00000265]  access_file access error: read failed (Input/output error) <-- VLC says08:39
buzDaSkreech: it's nice08:39
buzalthough i dont agree with the kontact integration 100%08:39
DaSkreechYou are using the SVN version?08:39
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DaSkreechbuz: can't you opt out of that?08:39
buzsnapshots from the tarball yes08:39
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buzDaSkreech: yes08:39
DaSkreechProblem solved :)08:39
buzif you compile it and kdepim-dev isnt installed it wont be integrated08:39
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buzDaSkreech: it's simple to build, actually08:40
DaSkreechbuz: Hmm no after installation opt out?08:41
DaSkreechThat's not kool08:41
buzsudo apt-get build-dep kdepim and you got everything (most likely much more but who cares) than you need08:41
buznot sure08:41
buzmaybe you can remove the shared lib08:41
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DaSkreechhey aseigo08:41
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jessica_#kubuntu.de08:42
buzthe master himself08:42
aseigohoi08:42
jessica_oh...08:42
jessica_i#m sorry08:42
jessica_'08:42
jessica_lol08:42
zorglu_no harm done :)08:42
jessica_wie geht das nochmal?08:42
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buzjessica_: /join #kubuntu.de08:42
cpl-tnt44buz08:42
cpl-tnt44hey remember me ?08:43
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jessica_ahh...08:43
buzyes08:43
jessica_thank you!08:43
cpl-tnt44i took a little break off this ...08:43
buzkein problem08:43
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zorglu_!de08:43
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:43
cpl-tnt44reinstalled the ubuntu 6 and still problem presist08:43
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cpl-tnt44we need to reconfigure the server X ...08:43
buzwhat card have you actually got08:43
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jessica_buz kannst du etwa deutsch??08:44
cpl-tnt44its an old laptop ati rage08:44
zorglu_jessica_: it is a '-' :) and you can click on the #kubuntu-de directly if you are using konversation to irc08:44
jessica_oh...08:44
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jessica_im sorry08:44
buzmy bad08:44
jessica_thank you!!08:44
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cpl-tnt44zorglu_ , remember me u said something about u cant install ubuntu 6 on a desktop computer and move the hdd back to the laptop ?08:45
buzactually you can08:45
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cpl-tnt44really ?08:45
cpl-tnt44thats what i did now buz08:45
buzsure, it's not windows08:45
Mo-Zis runescape playable in linux?08:45
cpl-tnt44yeah but now i came to this server X error08:45
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cpl-tnt44and it cant be solved..08:45
buzyeah well you'll likely have to reconfigure x08:45
cpl-tnt44ok08:46
cpl-tnt44sodu ?08:46
buztry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:46
cpl-tnt44sudo ?08:46
cpl-tnt44ok08:46
cpl-tnt44thanks08:46
cpl-tnt44lets step by step this08:46
zorglu_cpl-tnt44: some misunderstanding here :) i said the easiest would be to reinstall. or you could fix the issue as you meet them08:46
buzpretty self explanatory really08:46
zorglu_cpl-tnt44: and you choosed the second solution08:46
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cpl-tnt44zorglu my bad u right !08:47
MasterEvilAceHURRAY! Kubuntu update gave me a usplash again. It's not centered though.. how do I fix that?08:47
cpl-tnt44but i wonder why in ubuntu 5 the transmission worked smooth while in 6 it come to some problems08:47
rominhow i can install firefox with tar.gz ?08:48
cpl-tnt44ok08:48
cpl-tnt44buz08:48
cpl-tnt44lets continue08:48
zorglu_romin: elaborate08:48
cpl-tnt44autodetect video hardware /yes/no ?08:49
buztry yes08:49
miguelalguien habla espaol?08:49
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zorglu_!es08:49
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:49
rominanybody can help me ?08:49
cpl-tnt44ok08:50
cpl-tnt44it writes ati ...08:50
cpl-tnt44witch is ok08:50
cpl-tnt44which is ok08:50
zorglu_romin: the first step to get help, is to explain the problem you are trying to solve08:50
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JacksLivrmiguel hablo un poco espanol08:50
zorglu_romin: hence my 'elaborate' :)08:50
Hawkwind!es08:51
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:51
cpl-tnt44he wants the amount of memory in kb to be used by your video card ...08:51
cpl-tnt44buz ^^^^08:51
buzleave it empty08:51
cpl-tnt44ok08:51
cpl-tnt44kernal framebuffer ?08:51
cpl-tnt44yes or no ?08:51
JacksLivrmiguel: que is su problema?08:51
buzjust hit enter until you come to the screen configuration08:51
zorglu_JacksLivr: miguel: please go in #kubuntu-es to speak in spanish08:51
JacksLivrsorry, was just trying to help him08:52
cpl-tnt44ok i never some to this08:52
JacksLivrzorglu_: not trying to offend, just trying to help08:52
cpl-tnt44he is asking me now Would you like to view the detailed X server output as well ?08:52
cpl-tnt44hit yes or no ?08:52
buzwhy did it start x just now?08:52
cpl-tnt44buz ?08:52
buzno08:52
miguelgracias08:53
zorglu_JacksLivr: it is cool, the issue is just this channel is english speaking, you can help him in #kubuntu-es without problem08:53
miguelpara empezar como cambio de canal??08:53
miguelya tengo una pestaa abierta con #kubuntu-es08:53
cpl-tnt44now it says ... The X server is now diabled . Restart GDM when it is configured correctly08:53
buzDaSkreech: actually it seems you can use basket standalone even if its compiled for kontact08:53
miguelpero nadie me contesta08:53
DaSkreechbuz: well yeah :)08:53
cpl-tnt44is it ok08:53
JacksLivri'll PM him08:53
cpl-tnt44?08:53
DaSkreechKontact is an app aggregator08:53
buzmhh08:54
buzdoesnt sound very good, cpl-tnt4408:54
cpl-tnt44ok ..08:54
cpl-tnt44retry ?08:54
buzif x cant configure itself, there's likely some hardware it gets confused by08:54
cpl-tnt44or there is more to it?08:54
buzno that works with my ati card08:54
cpl-tnt44which cant be redefined ?08:54
buzwhat chip is in there?08:54
cpl-tnt44Rage08:55
buzDaSkreech: i can tar you up the built sources if you like08:55
migueljackslivr_ tengo que registrar mi nick cada vez que incie session, ya recibi tu mensaje en privado, pero no te puedo contestar08:55
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buzhmm08:55
buznot even sure if thats supported by the ati driver, really08:55
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cpl-tnt44naaa the ubuntu 5 took the card why the 6 cant ?08:56
buzdifferent versions of xorg08:56
buzmaybe you need another driver, who knows08:56
cpl-tnt44mmm08:56
cpl-tnt44can i upgrade from 5 to 6 ?08:56
buzi'm not exactly x expert myself08:56
buzsure08:56
cpl-tnt44without a CD !!!08:56
buzsure08:56
cpl-tnt44bcz i dont have cd rom08:56
zorglu_JacksLivr: or you can join #kubuntu-es :)08:57
buz!upgrade08:57
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes08:57
cpl-tnt44in this laptop08:57
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buzneither have i08:57
cpl-tnt44can i install ubuntu from the hdd without a cd rom ?08:57
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zorglu_!netboot08:57
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:57
buzhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot08:57
buzthats how i install kubuntu on my notebook08:58
cpl-tnt44mmm08:58
cpl-tnt44i have a network card in the laptop08:58
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cpl-tnt44can i use it to boot ?08:58
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zorglu_buz: the bot used to answer this page... the page of the bot are to general now...08:58
PiRhi08:58
buzdepends08:58
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cpl-tnt44u mean PXE ?08:58
PiRi've a program whose his name is stellarium08:58
buzzorglu_: i had used the page last night08:59
buzso it was still in my history08:59
buzcpl-tnt44: yes08:59
PiRand i wanna take screen shots08:59
zorglu_buz: ok08:59
PiRbut i don't know how08:59
rampage where can i get libc6 (>= 2.4-1) for installing libxine-extracodecs08:59
PiRsomeone can help me ?08:59
zorglu_PiR: press the 'print' key08:59
buzPiR: alt-f2 -> ksnapshot08:59
rampage help ??08:59
PiRok thanks09:00
zorglu_!info libc609:00
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB09:00
zorglu_rampage: you get it there09:00
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rampage but my amarok wont play unless libxine-extracodecs installed09:00
buzrampage: how about sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodeds?09:01
rampage libxine has these dependiencies09:01
rampage it say09:02
rampage(Reading database ... 67107 files and directories currently installed.)09:02
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rampageUnpacking libxine1c2 (from .../libxine1c2_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb) ...09:02
rampageSelecting previously deselected package libxine-extracodecs.09:02
zorglu_!pastebin09:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:02
rampageUnpacking libxine-extracodecs (from .../libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb) ...09:02
rampagePreparing to replace libxine-extracodecs 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (using .../libxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...09:02
rampageUnpacking replacement libxine-extracodecs ...09:02
rampageMore than one copy of package libxine-extracodecs has been unpacked09:02
rampage in this run !  Only configuring it once.09:02
zorglu_rampage: the pastebin is done for that.09:02
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rampagedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libxine-extracodecs:09:02
rampage libxine-extracodecs depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however:09:02
rampage  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.09:02
rampagedpkg: error processing libxine-extracodecs (--install):09:02
rampage dependency problems - leaving unconfigured09:02
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PiR'print' for screen shot -> no09:03
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frojndhello there09:04
PiRand ALT+F2 do nothings09:04
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rampage plz look at these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25517/09:04
fdovingPiR: kmenu -> run command09:04
fdoving!paste > rampage09:04
PiRand ?09:04
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PiRok09:04
fdovingPiR: that equals to alt+f2.09:04
rampage thse what i get when apt-get libxine-extracodecs09:05
zorglu_PiR: you seems to have issue with your keyboard configuration. or you had modified it09:05
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zorglu_PiR: those keys are setup by default on kubuntu09:05
PiRbut i've not the kmenu in the screen09:05
zorglu_Pi09:05
zorglu_PiR: no big K on the bottom left ?09:05
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rampage so help ??09:05
frojndwhat can I do to open link which include streaming: Firefox doesn't know how to open this adress, becouse the protocol (mms) isn't associated with any program09:05
PiRstellarium is a program which take total place in the screen09:05
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rampage some help ^_^09:06
PiRscreenfull program (i believe we says it)09:06
zorglu_PiR: oh ok, the term is 'fullscreen'09:07
PiRok thanks (i'm french sorry)09:07
zorglu_PiR: np, me too :)09:07
PiRlol09:07
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rampage help ??? on amarok plz09:07
cpl-tnt44BUZ BUZ !09:07
cpl-tnt44BUz !09:07
cpl-tnt44its working !!!!09:08
buzcongrats09:08
cpl-tnt44u wont belive what i did !09:08
cpl-tnt44i used the recovery consol09:08
rampage ???09:08
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cpl-tnt44and did what u said about the screen configuration09:08
sYniei tried to copy a file from CD to my harddrive. but i always get a "Input/Output error"... what could this be ?09:08
DaSkreechrampage: what command did you use to install?09:08
cpl-tnt44and ubuntu is up !!!09:08
DaSkreechsYnie: BaD Cd?09:08
cpl-tnt44now lets restart to chk if it works09:08
fdovingrampage: looks like your sources.list entries don't match your current kubuntu version09:09
sYnie@DaSkreech it's a VCD and I can play it via VLC09:09
rampagemight be09:09
PiRzorglu_ : if you know, can you please connect in kubuntu-fr me to explain ?09:09
rampagehow to change them09:09
DaSkreechsYnie: try to dd it09:09
Homerwill edgy eft has KDE 3.5.4?09:09
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buzHomer: yes09:09
buzalready has09:09
knithxHi!09:09
fdovingrampage: what kubuntu version do you have?09:09
zorglu_PiR: "sleep 5 && ksnapshot" in a terminal and you got 5sec to switch to the stellariem screen :)09:09
rampage6.0609:09
buzyou can use kde 3.5.4 with dapper if you want09:09
xav33sex09:10
knithxCan anyone send me /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png???09:10
knithxPlease09:10
rampage ???09:10
DaSkreechrampage: what command did you use to install this?09:10
buzthinking of it, i should upgrade kde myself09:10
sYniedd says the same: "Input/Output error"09:10
rampagedpkg -i /root/Desktop/m/*.deb09:10
DaSkreechrampage: do you have two libxine debs on the Desktop?09:11
knithxExcuse me, can anyone upload /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png to www.imageshack.us for me?09:11
rampage that was the command09:11
Homeryeah I heard khtml got improved in 3.5.409:11
buzhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php09:11
DaSkreechrampage: do you have two libxine-extracodes.deb files on the desktop09:11
rampagelibxine1c2_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb09:12
rampagelibxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb09:12
rampagelibxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb09:12
DaSkreech!09:12
rampage these 3 files09:12
DaSkreechrampage: mv the 1.1.1 deb to a new folder09:12
rampage ok09:12
DaSkreechrampage: No wait!!09:13
DaSkreechThe 1.1.209:13
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rampage ??09:13
DaSkreechmv that one out leave the 1.1.1 on the desktop09:13
DaSkreechthen run the command again09:13
rampage which 1.1.1 ? i have 2 files09:14
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soulrideranyone here good with networks ?09:14
knithxExcuse me, can anyone upload /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png to www.imageshack.us for me?09:14
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cpl-tnt44buz09:15
cpl-tnt44i have one more issue to solve09:16
soulriderhttp://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4025/kubuntupanelyw6.png09:16
buzwhat09:16
cpl-tnt44my wireless network on a pcmcia card09:16
buz!wireless09:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:16
cpl-tnt44ok thanks i hope it helps09:16
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rampagehelp09:17
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cpl-tnt44if im using a laptop i should go into this section : WifiDocs/WirelessLaptopInternetAccessPoint ???09:17
buzno idea09:17
buzmy wireless always works09:17
cpl-tnt44ok09:17
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Homerdoes wine work pretty well these days?09:19
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grotheskHi!09:23
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grotheskHow do I set up a certain soundcard as the default one?09:23
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caseyomahHomer: That is an unfair question. it works for most basic M$ programs, but many DirectX and "Disc ID" programs fail.09:25
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fdovinggrothesk: check this out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76978.html09:25
grotheskfdoving: thx!09:26
zorglu_caseyomah: what is 'disc id' ?09:26
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caseyomahThat's what I call them.09:26
caseyomahPrograms (mainly games) that do original disc checking.09:26
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fdovinggrothesk: not sure it's up2date, but it can be helpfull anyway.09:26
zorglu_caseyomah: ah ok thanks09:26
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caseyomahExamples I've seen: Diablo series, 7th Guest series.09:27
fdovinggrothesk: there is also http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4838509:27
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caseyomahI personally prefer Gaim to Kopete because of Kopete's adhering to the rule of "You cannot add yourself to your contact list"09:29
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Nookie^caseyomah: and why do u want to add your self to contact list?09:29
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jeff_Hi, all09:30
caseyomahNookie^: I make a Status group and add myself so I can see if the "program status" matches the "network status" I have seen times (on other messengers) when they don't.09:30
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Homercaseyomah: yeah that annoys the hell out of me09:30
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jeff_I've got an issue with mythtv running on a Virtual Machine, not making any connection to a remote mysql server, even though I can make the same connection using mysql from the CL.09:31
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Homernot just you can't add yourself to the contact list, it has to remind you everytime09:31
HomerYou can not add yourself to the contact list!09:31
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caseyomahThat too. :)09:31
Homerwith no way to remove yourself09:31
Admiral_Chicagoi'm retarted09:31
Homerunless you use gaim of course lol09:31
caseyomahRight.09:32
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Admiral_Chicagoi just messed up two different envelopes writing an address09:32
caseyomahDoes Kopete support meta-contacts?09:32
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grotheskcaseyomah: Yes, it does.09:34
cpl-tnt44im fresh to ubuntu can some 1 plz tell me how to install ndiswrapper on a computer with no internet connection ?09:34
cpl-tnt44buz09:34
caseyomahOkay, so just the "can't add yourself" balances against A/V features...09:35
buzno idea09:36
DaSkreech!wireless09:36
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:36
buz!ndiswwrapper09:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ndiswwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
buz!ndiswrapper09:36
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caseyomahBTW: I have a Dell USB Hub Keyboard. I was wondering how to get the multimedia keys working (if possible)09:36
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DaSkreechWhen does the MP3 patent expire?09:36
caseyomah2100?09:36
cpl-tnt44!ndiswrapper09:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:37
caseyomahDaSkreech: The year 2100?09:37
DaSkreechcaseyomah: When was it filed?09:37
caseyomahDaSkreech: I don't know, I'm just being a jerk because patents aren't being used the way they were intended.09:38
DaSkreechYeah but would be nice to know when Distros can ship with mP3 support09:38
soulrideri heard that mp3 will be free in 2 years or soemthign like that09:38
cpl-tnt44!wiki09:38
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation09:38
DaSkreech Though I think that we shouldjust make .ogg kill .mp309:38
DaSkreechsoulrider: Where?09:39
soulrideruhm09:39
soulriderhere actually09:39
soulridersomeone said it09:39
soulridercant remember who09:39
caseyomahDaSkreech: Patents are supposed to "buy" the patent subject into the public domain after a number of years.09:39
Hawkwindsoulrider: I added all the wallpapers to http://SeerOfSouls.com/gallery  today09:39
zorglu_DaSkreech: http://www.mp3licensing.com/patents/index.html for each different countries09:39
soulriderAWESOME!09:39
soulriderHawkwind: i stil got a Sh**load to upload09:40
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octanDaSkreech 75 years after it was patended09:40
soulriderbut i got a slow connection, plus, i need my connection09:40
soulriderhopefuly i cna do it in a few weeks09:40
Hawkwindsoulrider: You should put them in a seperate directory somewhere so I can download just those and not the whole thing again :)09:40
soulrideruhm09:41
soulriderthe thing is i dont know which i uploaded lol09:41
soulriderim sucha  atrd09:41
soulriderwhat we could do is09:41
caseyomahlol @ soulrider09:41
soulrideri can go on uploading them to tks server09:41
DaSkreechoctan: That's the date it was granted not the date it was filed?09:41
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soulriderand then09:41
octanyea granted09:41
soulrideryou can sort them by date09:41
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soulriderand just downlaod hte ones you want09:41
soulriderwhich are the latest09:42
fdovinghint, #kubuntu-offtopic.09:42
soulrider**rolls eyes**09:42
caseyomahOkay, I have a kubuntu (KDE) specific issue...09:42
fdovingcaseyomah: shoot.09:42
cpl-tnt44someone , guide me through the steps of installing wireless pcmcia card  please ? (wireless guides are for more advanced users ...)09:42
caseyomahI wonder if anyone knows what the %a...%z are set to in "Storage Media" in System Settings. (The media autoplay)09:43
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JohnFlux_hey09:44
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caseyomahYes JohnFlux_?09:44
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bytechHi all. I just loaded Kubuntu on one of my desktops this morning. First time to view and navigate this OS. Can someone tell me the best way to check for updates and add programs like Mozilla Firefox and etc. etc.09:46
caseyomah...Or failing a list, is there a way to like echo a list of current values to screen?09:46
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caseyomah"Add/Remove Programs"09:47
soulriderbytech: you can use add/remove programs09:47
soulriderit will automatically get them form the internet :)09:47
bytechLet me check it out09:47
bytechI just sat down behind the machine 10 minutes ago09:48
DaSkreechbytech: Also you will have a little Orange blob thing with a Warning Sign on it in your System tray if you have updates09:48
caseyomahUpdates (Really Upgrades) are auto-checked and you get a notification area icon when there are newer versions available.09:48
Admiral_Chicagobytech, or use Adept Manager09:49
soulrideryup09:49
soulriderthats another alternative09:49
Admiral_Chicagoyou might want to check out easy ubuntu too...09:49
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Admiral_Chicago!easyubuntu > bytech09:49
DaSkreechbytech: Have you used LInux before?09:50
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JohnFlux_caseyomah: my wife just mucking around..09:52
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bytechPlayed with a few distros here and there09:53
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bytechDaSkreech: Been using Kanotix for 3 or 4 months now as a primary machine09:55
DaSkreechbytech: Ok so you don't need too much "we are not windows" speech09:55
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bytechNo, I already prefer Linux over Windows09:56
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morghanphoenixHow do you change the icon for the K menu?09:58
slow-motionhallo09:59
DaSkreechHello09:59
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bytechDaSkreech: Just a matter of making the conversion and getting use to the basics of Linux and then going from there09:59
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morghanphoenixis there a channel for KDE customization?10:00
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DaSkreech#kde ?10:00
DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: it's a file that you swap out I think10:00
DaSkreechbytech: Found adept and add/remove ok?10:00
morghanphoenixI saw that in the manual, but I followed the instructions and it didn't change.10:01
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DaSkreech#kde would be a good place to hang out. Someone who knows more might answer you on here as well10:02
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bytechDaSkreech: yep found both and checked out EasyUbuntu page as well. Just a matter of getting a little more in depth when I got some time.10:05
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guptaIs  "tar  -cf  services.tar /etc/rc*" good enough to backup services start/disabled state??10:05
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DaSkreechgupta: try /etc/rc*/*10:06
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bytechThanks for the help. Be back later10:07
guptaDaSkreech: Oh the tar command works10:07
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DaSkreechbye bytech10:07
guptaI was wonering if that was all that is required for backing up10:08
guptaservices state10:08
bytechc10:08
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acecan someone help explan to me how I can uninstall programs that were already installed when I installed ubuntu and the kubuntu desktop?10:09
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DaSkreechace: You can remove them with adept or apt-get remove <package name>10:10
aceanyone?10:10
acewell then i tried adapt it said it was going to uninstall kubuntu too10:10
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DaSkreechWhich Kubuntu?10:11
DaSkreechkubuntu-desktop?10:11
aceidk let me try it again but i think so10:11
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aceand i installed the kubuntu desktop when i was in ubuntu10:11
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aceif that helps10:11
aceyea i am trying to uninstall kooka and when i click inspect changes it says it is going to remove Kubuntu desktop system too10:12
jtyler4i'm having trouble with removing a package from 6.06 with Apt-get is this the correct area to get halp?10:13
DaSkreechace: that's fine10:13
DaSkreechjtyler4: yes10:13
acejust go ahead and click uninstall????10:14
DaSkreechace: yes10:14
acealrighty...thnx10:14
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guptacan anyone think of a possible reason for not being able to download from Irc?10:15
jtyler4<DaSkreech>thank you. I used the installed with wordperfect (I know it's old) but now I can't remove a package. dpkg kicks out an error about missing files and directories.10:15
DaSkreechjtyler4: Did you check if they were in fact missing?10:16
jtyler4they are.10:16
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jtyler4I made them with touch and made the directories over, and it dutifuly removes them, but still repeats the error10:17
DaSkreechCan you pastebin the error?10:17
jtyler4I've tried clean and autoclean switches, but no go10:17
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jtyler4<DaSkreech>pastebin?10:17
DaSkreech!paste10:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:18
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jtyler4it's about 15 lines10:18
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DaSkreechThat's why you use Pastebin :)10:19
jtyler4<DaSkreech>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25524/plain/10:20
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coreymon77hey guys10:21
coreymon77whats a good bittorrent program for linux10:21
coreymon77?10:21
fdovingcheck out ktorrent or azureus10:21
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jtyler4<DaSkreech>is there a way to clear the package manually from the marked changes?10:22
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DaSkreechjtyler4: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:23
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jtyler4DaSkreech:same error10:23
DaSkreechBlast :-(10:24
DaSkreechsudo dpkg --configure -a10:24
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jtyler4DaSkreech:yeah. there were other packages. maybe ths script fails cause this is the last package remaining10:24
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jtyler4DaSkreech:same.10:25
DaSkreechWhy are you removing it?10:25
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jtyler4It refused to cooperate. I was trying it out for a noob to see if I could talk them through installing it... it didn't even start.10:26
DaSkreechapt-get install -f ?10:27
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jtyler4DaSkreech:I used the command line to run the installer that came with WP810:28
DaSkreechSooo it was a .deb?10:28
jtyler4DaSkreech:yes. it is an old app. I chose debian during the install10:28
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DaSkreechAh. ... I'm wondering if you want to --force it10:29
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jtyler4the remove script that came with it failed, and I'm trying to get it out now10:30
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bill6how do you install a modem in kubundu10:32
jtyler4DaSkreech: do you mean reinstall it with force?10:32
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DaSkreechno remove it with a force10:34
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DaSkreechjtyler4: What did the original installer fail with?10:34
rambo3same way  you install a file  in kubundu.10:34
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jtyler4SaSkreech: the installer worked fine. it was when I tried the uninstall script... and that was last night. I don't have the script.10:35
DaSkreechjtyler4: Right what did that fail with?10:35
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TumainiHello people! I'm having some problems with Kweather. It just shows a window that says "empty page" when I try to configure it. How can I solve this, does anyone know?10:35
jtyler4DaSkreech: where can I find that?10:35
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tdnHow do I get my nvidia gforce 2 gts pro card to work in Kubuntu?10:35
|lostbyte|Hi guys :)10:36
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tdnI selected the nvidia-driver from the display-setup in System settings. But now I won't work :(10:36
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DaSkreechErmm. Syslog maybe?10:37
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jtyler4DaSkreech: standby10:37
rambo3nv driver10:37
TumainiAnyone got any clue why kweather doesn't work in kde?10:37
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rambo3!doesn't work10:39
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.10:39
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jtyler4DaSkreech:the error- Only libc6 versions 2.0 and 2.1 are supported. Neither are installed.10:40
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shadowhywindanyone good with wpa_supplicant, its keeps coming up saying Driver doesn't support WPA, but the driver was working before i reinstalled kubuntu10:40
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DaSkreechWhat version of Libc6 is installed?10:41
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DaSkreechSeems like a strange time to be checking that10:41
TumainiSorry, I was more specific earlier, but got no answer.10:42
TumainiThe problem is that when I try to configure it, I get a window that says "Empty page", and nothing more.10:42
jtyler4DaSkreech: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is installed according to Synaptic10:43
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DaSkreechTumaini: I think that happened to me as well and I had to log out10:44
TumainiOh, just that? Thanks, I'll try that.10:44
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DaSkreechjtyler4: It checked for that at uninstall?10:45
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jtyler4DaSkreech: here's the verbosity from the script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25526/plain/10:47
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noheadlightsjoin #rubyonrails10:50
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noheadlightssry :)10:50
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jtyler4DaSkreech: you get my last?10:53
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rambo3are there any "quick and pre programed  " dhtml tools for linux10:56
jtyler4DaSkreech: BTW it's Photopaint, and not WP8 4 linux10:57
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DaSkreechjtyler4:  I think the uninstaller itself needs libc 2.0 or 2.110:57
DaSkreech you could try and fool it :)10:58
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jtyler4make a link to the current library?10:58
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DaSkreechYeah11:02
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jeismaMy amarok won't play mp3s anymore, how come?11:05
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jeismaIt says my 'void-engine' claims to not be able to play mp3s11:05
jeismawhy did it change ti void-engine?11:05
jeismaany help?11:05
CanoeOnWaterI cant get mp3s to play, aint there some package to do it all?11:05
Admiral_ChicagoCanoeOnWater, libxine-extracodecs11:06
Admiral_Chicagojeisma, are yiou using xine?11:06
jeismaanyone know why my amarok changed to 'void-engine' and it wont play mp3s?11:06
CanoeOnWaterwell i just installed it, and11:07
CanoeOnWaternot sure11:07
CanoeOnWaterlet me look11:07
jtyler4DaSkreech: I'm looking over this script and it's just doing a script check. I'm going to edit a copy of the script and try again11:08
DaSkreechOk11:08
Kubuwhat was the apt-get code to get the kernel source???11:08
Kubusudo apt-get install ...11:08
CanoeOnWateri have kaffeen and amork11:08
jeismaAdmiral_Chicago: yes11:08
jeismaAdmiral_Chicago but it said it was changed to void-engine11:08
Kubuhuh11:09
Admiral_Chicagojeisma, #amarok11:09
Admiral_Chicagothey know a little more than me and i'm afk11:09
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CanoeOnWateris the xine in the Adept or Synaptic installer?11:09
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Admiral_Chicago!mp3 > CanoeOnWater11:10
jeisma!mp311:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:10
jtyler4DaSkreech: here's the section any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25528/11:10
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CanoeOnWaterok, thanks Chicago... i will try11:11
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DaSkreechjtyler4: What are you trying to do?11:12
jtyler4add 2.3 to the choices11:12
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shadowhywinddoes anyone know why a driver would support WPA in one install, and not support it after the reinstall?11:13
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shadowhywindany ideaas?11:15
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DaSkreechjtyler4: Why don't you just comment out the check? :)11:16
jtyler4DaSkreech: I could set the libcVer manually. good idea.11:17
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zuusanybody know how to fix the ati 'Mesa' driver issue??11:18
zuusi am having a problem getting 3d acceleration working11:19
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zuusdri fails to load11:19
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jtyler4DaSkreech: script went through. still have my apt-get error.11:23
jtyler4:(11:23
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DaSkreechNo errors for the uninstaller?11:24
zuusDoes anybody know how to get 3d acceleration working properly??11:24
jtyler4DaSkreech:it was a strict script. it prefaced everything with "if installed..."11:25
Kubuwhat graphics card hav u got11:25
Kubuzuus11:25
DaSkreechjtyler4: It's a smart script :)11:25
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jtyler4I still have to fix apt though11:25
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zuusI am using an ATI Xpress 200m11:26
zuusI have trolled the forums for the past week11:26
zuusand cannot get FGLRX to load properly11:26
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drbeamswhat is a good ftp server for kubunttu11:28
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segfaultdrbeams, proftp11:30
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naegling23hey, im getting an error when I try to change the resloution in NWN, can anyone help me out?11:31
drbeamsk, i can use adept to install, but i don't know anything about it from there11:32
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jtyler4DaSkreech?11:32
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naegling23its X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation), does this mean that xorg is having trouble with my resolution?11:34
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colinguistHiya,  I just did something rather stupid.  I used the Kubuntu Display tool to change my monitor (using "Test"), and I can no longer see, my monitor gives me the "Incompatible Mode" message, and I can't see the desktop to change it back11:36
colinguistI now can't make it to the Login Screen11:36
DaSkreechjtyler4: Yes?11:36
colinguistAny good way to get in and fix it?11:36
colinguist(apologies for the noob question :p)11:36
jtyler4I've still got the error in Apt-get11:36
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colinguistOr, more importantly, is there any way to reset Xorg.conf?11:38
colinguistSo I can just start over :p11:38
zuuswhat video card are you using?11:38
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colinguistATI Radeon 960011:38
colinguistThis all happened when installing fglrx11:39
zuustry aticonfig --initial11:39
zuusyeah im having major problems with fglrx too11:39
colinguistDid that11:39
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colinguistThe issue is getting my xorg.conf back to a state where I can see anything11:39
stonedragon12hm11:39
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colinguistand doing so without being able to get to Login11:39
colinguistI've got it booted off a liveCD now11:40
zuushm sorry I dont know anything else that might help11:40
colinguistand I think I can edit the xorg.conf from here11:40
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zuuswhat does fglrxinfo return?11:41
colinguistWell, I'm not sure right now11:41
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DaSkreechjtyler4: try apt-get install --force-yes11:43
DaSkreechand the package you are installing11:43
colinguistIf you erase xorg.conf, will it automatically create another/11:44
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colinguistActually...11:44
colinguistHmm11:44
colinguist?Can you start to a command line/11:45
colinguistIs there a way to bypass KDM altogether?11:46
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bmhhi all, i just converted some partitions from ntfs to ext3, they show up in konq but i cant write as normal user - fstab entry for one: /dev/hdc1 /media/ext46 ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 111:47
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zuusI think xorg.conf will regenerate itself if you delete it11:47
zuusyou might want to create a backup first11:48
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colinguistI'm copying the XOrg.conf from the LiveCD11:51
colinguistand hoping that works11:51
colinguist:p11:51
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eduhelp11:52
colinguistYES!   It worked!11:53
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hyperwhat package do I need to install for jpeglib.h  ?11:53
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frank_hyper: probably something that looks like libjpeg-dev11:55
frank_hyper: what are you trying to compile?11:55
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hyperfrank: http://webcamserver.sourceforge.net/  --> or do you know any better webcam streaming software?11:56
hyperfrank: on windows I used webcamXP11:56
KDEfanboyhyper: you can search packages by content filenames at http://packages.ubuntu.com11:57
hyperfrank: libjpeg62-dev did the job :)11:57
zuuscolinquest: what does fglrxinfo return?11:57
KDEfanboy!packages11:57
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!11:57
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hyperkdefanboy: Well, I was looking where that file is included... so I had no clue what the package was... so search doesn't help much, does it?11:58
frank_hyper: I don't know. don't have a webcam11:58
jtyler4DaSkreech: is there a force for installing this package? it seems to have broken dpkg11:58
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hyperfrank: configure / make / make install was now without error :) now lets see how that thing works11:58
frank_hyper: actually you can search for a specific file (in a package) at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ I think11:58
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KDEfanboyhyper: yes it will help. there you can search for which packages provides jpeglib.h11:59
hyperfank / kdefanboy: I didn't know that... but in apt-cache search you can't search for a single file...12:00
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DaSkreechjtyler4: Ah.. I'm Sorry but I have to leave now :(12:02
jtyler4I'm onthe right track now. thanks12:02
DaSkreechThere should be a way to clear the dpkg install queue but I don't know what it is outside of reboot :(12:02
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couquinouxfrancais12:05
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KDEfanboy!fr12:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:05
colinguistHmm.. "XLib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". when I run Glxgears12:07
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colinguistAnybody have any idea what's broken there?12:08
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hyperhmmm, isn't there a sun-java5-plugin for edgy?12:10

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