[12:13] <lupine_85> have you added yourself to the group?
[12:14] <cpk2> lupine_85: yeah, did that when i made it
[12:14] <lupine_85> peculiar
[12:15] <cpk2> lupine_85: groups doesnt show the group, i think i need to relog?
[12:15] <lupine_85> shouldn't need to
[12:16] <cpk2> lupine_85: well the users and accounts gui shows me in the group but "groups" doesnt have it listed
[12:16] <lupine_85> maybe the silly GUI hasn't written the changes yet?
[12:17] <cpk2> well its taking it sweet time =\
[12:18] <lupine_85> maybe you need to shut the GUI down?
[12:18] <cpk2> it has been =\
[12:19] <cpk2> i closed it and opened it to double check it
[12:27] <digivore> how do i run a program that i don't install through adept or synaptic?  just one that i download froma webiste?
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> digivore, you probably have to compile from source
[12:31] <Admiral_Chicago> what program is it?
[12:38] <digivore> !bowser
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bowser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <digivore> i have this 'bowser' thing in my 'internet' menu,   and it has no icon and i have no idea what it is.     anyone seen this before?
[12:40] <axiom> bowser?
[12:40] <NeoSaki> Well, Bowser is the boss in the Mario series by Nintendo
[12:40] <digivore> when i type it into terminal i get:
[12:40] <digivore> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:40] <NeoSaki> He is normally seen as taking Princess Peach from her castle in Mushroom Kingdom
[12:42] <NeoSaki> Sounds like its a database browser
[12:42] <digivore> ann it was a news leecher..
[12:42] <NeoSaki> or that
[12:42] <NeoSaki> :D
[12:43] <NeoSaki> anyone know how to make a Linksys Wireless-G USB Adapter(WUSB54GC) work in Kubuntu?
[12:43] <couquinoux> franais?
[12:43] <digivore> !fr
[12:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:44] <cpk2> i seem to have lost the logout button for kde
[12:44] <cpk2> or maybe I never had one?
[12:44] <NeoSaki> !wifi
[12:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:45] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: PIng
[12:45] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Pong
[12:46] <DaSkreech> Apparently SuperTuxkart put back up the binary :)
[12:46] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Oh nice!
[12:46] <DaSkreech> Unfortunnately it doesn't work on my other computer :(
[12:47] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: What link is the binary on ?  I'm not seeing it on the downloads page
[12:47] <digivore> I want to be able to control my windows machine over my network,  sort of like remote desktop ...  any ideas?
[12:48] <DaSkreech> VNC
[12:48] <digivore> !vnc
[12:48] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:48] <digivore> thx
[12:48] <Dr_willis> vnc can do that very nicely
[12:49] <Dr_willis> for a vnc server for windows - i tend to use the 'ultravnc' server
[12:49] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Got a link to the binary ?
[12:49] <DaSkreech> un momemt
[12:49] <Dr_willis> If you can see both machines/monitors - you can use 'syngery' to 'move the mouse' and use the keyboard on the other machine.
[12:50] <illmatik> hi, im trying to boot kubuntu from CD for the first time, when its loading the files, i get an I/O error about maybe 25% through
[12:50] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2765
[12:50] <illmatik> ive tried burning it twice
[12:50] <illmatik> and i did the data check thing as well
[12:50] <DaSkreech> illmatik: Try it on a different computer
[12:50] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Ohhh, that was there last night actually
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk2, i can't hibernate on my edgy set up
[12:50] <DaSkreech> If it works then try reburning it at a slower rate
[12:50] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: That's exactly where I downloaded the .tar.bz2 file from actually
[12:51] <illmatik> im getting a laptop soon but i wanted to give it a try on my main PC...why wouldnt it work on it, its pretty up to date
[12:51] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: When I went there the other night the source was there not the binary
[12:51] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Strange.  As I downloaded the bin file last night in fact along with the source
[12:52] <illmatik> thanks ill try that
[12:52] <Poundex> Hi, I have a couple of questions about the Edgy beta. How stable is it atm? and when the next beta/final version is released will i have to re-download the ISO and reinstall, or will it simply be a case of updating packages?
[12:52] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: ah ok. Tried the .deb?
[12:52] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[12:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Not yet.  I went to the Houston Texans vs. Miami Dolphins football game today here in Houston so I just got back home not long ago
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Poundex, you can update it by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> Poundex: I will tell you how stable a beta release is if you can confirm hacking your leg off hurts
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Poundex: It's stable enough that I use it at work (i'm slightly crazy) and yes you can just update to the new version
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> how can I search repos from the command line
[12:53] <couquinoux> qui peut m'aider  installer ine quickcam logitec pour l'utiliser dans msn?
[12:53] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: apt-cache search
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: apt-cache search or apt-cache policy
[12:53] <DaSkreech> !fr
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, i know it was something like that
[12:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:53] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Or even apt-cache madison
[12:54] <Poundex> thanks
[12:54] <cpk2> <--- lost "logout" option for kde, sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop doesnt seem to remember how many desktops I have and its kind of annoying having to configure everything when i login
[12:54] <DaSkreech> couquinoux: French?
[12:55] <cpk2> shouldnt logout be in the kde menu?
[12:56] <Dr_willis> it is in mine.
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> logout can be in your menu or on your taskbar, it can even be on your desktop
[12:56] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  make a new user.. see if it shows up in their  K menu.
[12:57] <cpk2> Dr_willis: good idea heh
[12:57] <NeoSaki> If I got the Desktop CD is Firefox included on the cd? or do I need to get a package CD from somewhere?
[12:58] <maurycy> no, U must install firefox
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> NeoSaki: its very easy to add software
[12:58] <NeoSaki> I know how
[12:58] <Dr_willis> Very very very easy,,,, trivial in fact.
[12:58] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:58] <Dr_willis> since it auto downloads. :)
[12:59] <NeoSaki> I mean if I don't have net access on the desktop because the only way to access the net is to open my net browser and agree to some flippin terms from the hotel I'm staying in
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> NeoSaki: you have to understand kubuntu is a kde destkop enviroment and as such konqueror is the default browser
[12:59] <Dr_willis> I do find it odd that they dont include firefox.. but i got my own set of install_extra_things scripts that i run on any new install
[12:59] <maurycy> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[12:59] <NeoSaki> But! The terms are not able to be pulled up by Konqueror
[12:59] <cpk2> err whats the cli to add a user? the gui doesnt seem to want to give me the prompt to entry my root pw
[12:59] <NeoSaki> >_>
[01:00] <Dr_willis> adduser, or is it useradd
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> NeoSaki: you can open a term inside konqueror
[01:00] <Dr_willis> He means the "Terms of Agreement"
[01:00] <maurycy> if U need root
[01:00] <maurycy> use sudo -s -H in term
[01:01] <NeoSaki> ...
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Ive seen isps do that befor - often theres some sort of dns trick that sends every address  to a site for the EULA/Terms of USsage
[01:01] <sorush20> hi ..
[01:01] <NeoSaki> yeah
[01:01] <NeoSaki> but for some reason Konqueror isn't compatable
[01:01] <sorush20> my kubuntu download keeps dying..
[01:01] <sorush20> are there any http dowloads?
[01:01] <sorush20> or just ftps?
[01:01] <NeoSaki> but Firefox is, because that is what I use on my windows partition
[01:01] <Dr_willis> My isp does that for new machines..  had to fight with it once when i was using a router.
[01:01] <NeoSaki> Its gay
[01:02] <sorush20> Dr_willis: what that to me?
[01:02] <Dr_willis> NeoSaki,   boot to windows.. find that url that gets to that eula page.. jog down the address.. also get the ip# of the address.
[01:02] <NeoSaki> V_V I suppose I can find some paper
[01:02] <NeoSaki> lol
[01:02] <Admiral_Chicago> sorush20, kubuntuorg
[01:02] <Dr_willis> NeoSaki,  then try to go to the http://ip#.of.the.site/whatever/eula.poo
[01:02] <Dr_willis> from within linux.
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> Im just wondering can you install the mozila-firefox-linux  binary in Kubuntu from a cd without any deps
[01:03] <Dr_willis> alternatively - try to get konqueror to identify as firefox, or IE.
[01:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Linux_Galore, sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> Admiral_Chicago: with any internet
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> without*
[01:03] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  he cant GET to the internet. :P is firefox on the kubuntu cd at all..
[01:03] <sorush20> Admiral_Chicago: what ?
[01:04] <maurycy> as i remember firefox isn't on CD
[01:04] <Dr_willis> well he can get to the internet.. sort of.. :P lol
[01:04] <Dr_willis> almost..
[01:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i i think it installs stock
[01:05] <Dr_willis> the Ubuntu cd - has firefox.. not sure bout Kubuntu
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> NeoSaki: try downloading the Linux binary in windows or via the live ubuntu cd (it has firefox) then install the binary in kubuntu via a thumb drive or cd
[01:05] <sorush20> how do I use jigsaw download sofware to kubuntu ?
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> just has another idea, download the ubuntu cd and set it up as a repo for kubuntu and install forefox
[01:06] <cpk2> Dr_willis: I am missing the whole actions area =\
[01:06] <maurycy> i just check
[01:06] <maurycy> yes, firefox is on CD
[01:06] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  odd.. could remove the .kde* settings and reset ya user to defaults
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Linux_Galore, try searching packages.ubuntu.org
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> Admiral_Chicago: I dont have a problem
[01:08] <cpk2> if i got rid of them there must be a way to put them back =P
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: ?? this in konqueror
[01:08] <cpk2> in the kmenu
[01:09] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  I dont even knwo how you could get rid of them,
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: always just remove the rc file for kmenu
[01:09] <cpk2> Linux_Galore: eh?
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: logout and back in and the menu should go back to the default
[01:10] <cpk2> Linux_Galore: what rc file?
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: in kde everything has a rc file under ~/.kde/
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: were do you think all the savings are saved
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> settings*
[01:11] <cpk2> well there isnt very much in .kde
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: ~/.kde/share/config
[01:12] <cpk2> so just remove kmenueditrc?
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: or just rename it whatever_bak
[01:14] <cpk2> well here goes
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25450/
[01:14] <DaSkreech> That's my error message :(
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: thats the menu editor it wont effect anything
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help me...i forgot my kwalletmanager password
[01:16] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Move or delete ~/.kde/share/apps/kwalletmanager and it will reset everything
[01:16] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Including which passwords you saved?
[01:16] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Actually that's ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet
[01:17] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I believe so.  I've done that before and it reset everything
[01:17] <DaSkreech> neat :)
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> one more, how can I edit Kopete to look more like Gaim, i don't like the way my buddy list looks
[01:17] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Use gaim, which is better IMO :P
[01:18] <DaSkreech> Yeah Kopete just always barely saves it's butt
[01:18] <DaSkreech> It's really a young IM clinet
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> got it. configure appearence >> contact list >>
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> contact display mode >> detailed
[01:20] <cpk2> Linux_Galore: didnt work, didnt even make a new kmenueditrc
[01:21] <cpk2> however I found out ctrl alt delete gives me a logout menu and stuff
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: duh thats the config file for the menu editor
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: just run the menu editor and set it back to the defaults
[01:24] <cpk2> kmenueditor doesnt have a "defaults" that i can see
[01:25] <sorush20> I have windows installed first  .. evertime I try to install grub it happenes with out any problems but I still can' t get grub to boot
[01:26] <KrAmMeR_> does anyone have a problem with adept getting locked?
[01:27] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Hah ahaha
[01:28] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: You got beat http://www.getdeb.net/
[01:31] <DaSkreech> KrAmMeR_: From time to time
[01:31] <KrAmMeR_> how do you fix that?
[01:31] <KrAmMeR_> cuz i cant download any packages
[01:31] <KrAmMeR_> cuz it says its locked
[01:32] <KrAmMeR_> i tried to kill the process
[01:35] <DaSkreech> KrAmMeR_: And all adept processes are dead?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> try sudo apt-get update --configure -a from the command line
[01:38] <CainMadness> Has anyone seen AWOS on lately>?
[01:38] <CainMadness> *?
[01:38] <KrAmMeR_> DaSkreech: that worked
[01:38] <KrAmMeR_> thanks
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Sure
[01:39] <DaSkreech> !seen awos
[01:39] <ubotu> I haven't seen awos recently
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Nope
[01:39] <CainMadness> Hmm.
[01:39] <Conhe> !nvidia
[01:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <CainMadness> !seen awosdev
[01:40] <ubotu> I last saw AWOSDev (n=awilcox@67-22-96-243.atlsfl.adelphia.net) 3h 15m 37s ago, quiting: "Konversation terminated!"
[01:40] <CainMadness> Thought I forgot a part of his SN.
[01:42] <jmichaelx> i have an older pci nvidia graphics card in a PC, but i cannot get x to start using the kubuntu live CD... would anyone know how to get around this? the card is a geforce mx 4000
[01:44] <joshua__> I don't know about the live CD but I have a GeForce MX4000 PCI in my computer with edgy and it's working nicely
[01:44] <joshua__> you will need to use either the nv or nvidia driver
[01:44] <jmichaelx> maybe i just need to download edgy...
[01:45] <joshua__> depending if the live CD has the binary nvidia module or not...
[01:45] <joshua__> edgy seems fairly stable so go for it
[01:50] <sorush20> is there a resume function on downloading iso images?
[01:52] <twenty2sixty> hi! can anyone name me a gui-tool (an editor) that can search for - say, the occurence of a text-string - not only in 1 document, but in a whole folder of docs?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> sorush20: how were you downloading it?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> twenty2sixty: Umm GuiGrep? :-)
[01:55] <joshua__> sorush20: try using wget's -c option
[01:56] <twenty2sixty> DaSkreech: It is not in my repos ... Is it not a part of (K)ubuntu?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> twenty2sixty: Oh it doesn't exist. :)
[01:56] <DaSkreech> I guess  Quanta might do that
[01:58] <digivore> do i need to install and configure samba before i get a VNC connection working?
[01:58] <joshua__> twenty2sixty: if you're using kubuntu you can just use the Find Files/Folders (look in the K Menu)
[01:59] <joshua__> digivore: VNC doesn't rely on samba
[01:59] <digivore> trying to view my windows machine from my kubuntu.   installed the windows version of tightvnc server onthe windows machine.
[02:01] <joshua__> do you get an error message when connecting vnc client to the windows machine?
[02:02] <joshua__> also make sure that windows firewall isn't blocking the tcp port (I think it's 5900 or 5800)
[02:02] <digivore> vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: No route to host
[02:02] <digivore> Unable to connect to VNC server
[02:03] <digivore> i want to be typing in the IP address of the windows machine right?
[02:03] <joshua__> are you able to ping the machine?
[02:03] <joshua__> I would think it's the windows firewall
[02:05] <MattKrass> I hope I don't get shot for this, but how well do fifth gen ipods mix with kubuntu
[02:06] <jmichaelx> can edgy be used as a live CD?
[02:06] <jmichaelx> at this point...
[02:06] <NeoSaki> jmichaelx: yes
[02:06] <jmichaelx> MattKrass: i have used my 5th gen ipod with kubuntu
[02:06] <jmichaelx> NeoSaki: ty
[02:07] <NeoSaki> npo
[02:08] <twenty2sixty> joshua_: Is this able to search inside plaintext-files?
[02:08] <MattKrass> jmichaelx: how well does it work? is it a hack or natively supported? what software did you use it with?
[02:09] <joshua__> it claims to match files with certain contents
[02:09] <NeoSaki> MattKrass: What exactly do you want it to do?
[02:09] <MattKrass> download legal music and movies to it
[02:09] <MattKrass> still trying to find an open source iTMS
[02:09] <NeoSaki> MattKrass: AmaroK should connect to your iPod just fine
[02:10] <joshua__> it only shows the first matching line of each file though
[02:11] <morghanphoenix> AmaroK works great with the iPod, but I'm not sure what you need to access the music store.
[02:11] <NeoSaki> !ipod
[02:11] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:11] <NeoSaki> !itms
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <NeoSaki> :S
[02:11] <NeoSaki> I tried :D
[02:12] <MattKrass> darn
[02:12] <morghanphoenix> Also try looking at GTKpod, not as slick as AmaroK, but still a nice iPod updater.
[02:12] <MattKrass> to be fair I could probably grab a lot of music off the campus network (clarkson u) but I'd rather not limit myself to not
[02:12] <MattKrass> being able to buy
[02:13] <NeoSaki> you could use the crossover office
[02:13] <NeoSaki> to do it >_>
[02:13] <morghanphoenix> I've seen sites where you can buy MP3s and download them from the web with no software interface.
[02:14] <MattKrass> I suppose...
[02:14] <MattKrass> how much is that again?
[02:14] <MattKrass> and does itunes/cedega work well? if I'm gonna pay for it I might as well get my games running too
[02:15] <DaSkreech> MattKrass: emusic?
[02:15] <larson9999> my favorite p2p site is the public library!
[02:15] <DaSkreech> MattKrass: And Umm Magnatune I think
[02:15] <morghanphoenix> I like the library, and ktorrent, and frostwire etc.
[02:15] <MattKrass> emusic/magnatune?
[02:16] <digivore_> how can i ping a range of ip addresses?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> nearly open and free stores
[02:16] <DaSkreech> digivore_ For loop?
[02:16] <graft> why do yo uwant to ping a range if ip address?
[02:17] <graft> ergh... typos
[02:17] <morghanphoenix> I wish my iPod was older, I'd install linux on it, it'd be so nice to have ogg support on my iPod.
[02:17] <MattKrass> I mostly use my itunes account for TV shows though
[02:17] <MattKrass> hence the video ipod and wanting to be able to play secured tv eps
[02:17] <digivore_> wireless network to see if anyone is on it.
[02:17] <MattKrass> and beign able to buy them too..
[02:17] <NeoSaki> He's Wardriving !
[02:17] <NeoSaki> :d
[02:17] <NeoSaki> lol
[02:18] <graft> um... can't you just scan for ARP packets, etc.?
[02:18] <graft> much safer that way - passive
[02:18] <digivore_> how would i do that?
[02:18] <graft> ethereal
[02:18] <NeoSaki> actually I need to find out how to find the wireless network around me
[02:18] <NeoSaki> !wifi
[02:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:19] <digivore_> yah i tried ethereal a bit, but only came up with my own traffic.
[02:19] <graft> /sbin/iwlist <interface> scan
[02:19] <morghanphoenix> I keep my SSID broadcast off and wep on.
[02:19] <graft> digivore_: in promiscuous mode?
[02:19] <digivore_> i believe it was promiscuous mode....
[02:19] <graft> digivore_: if other people are on the network, ethereal will definitely show it - i've watched people's traffic before, seen what html pages they were downloading, etc.
[02:20] <graft> and it'll definitely show ARP requests
[02:21] <digivore_> graft: i will try this right now
[02:21] <MattKrass> anyone have a price for crossover office? or know if cedega can run itunes?
[02:22] <digivore_> some NICs can't do promiscuous mode right?
[02:23] <NeoSaki> MattKrass: $40
[02:23] <graft> yeh
[02:23] <graft> but most can
[02:23] <NeoSaki> but it allows you to run alot of software
[02:23] <graft> you ought to get an error if you cant
[02:23] <NeoSaki> Cedega is a headache
[02:24] <NeoSaki> anyone know how to setup a wireless network using a MAC address of the router?
[02:24] <graft> NeoSaki: howzat?
[02:24] <MattKrass> alright one last question
[02:25] <MattKrass> COO, can that ru ngames like cedega can?
[02:25] <morghanphoenix> It work for commercial windows games too?
[02:26] <NeoSaki> Yes you can run commercial games in Crossover
[02:26] <NeoSaki> from windows
[02:26] <NeoSaki> http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/cat/?cat_id=2
[02:26] <NeoSaki> theres the list
[02:26] <NeoSaki> brb, going to reboot
[02:27] <MattKrass> cool
[02:27] <MattKrass> but I found something else interesting
[02:28] <MattKrass> supposedly there's a linux iTMS "client" called sharpmusique
[02:38] <larson9999> i don't run too many windows programs but wine runs everything i need.
[02:50] <ubuntu> hello I would like to share a folder called trc, like this sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/New -o urd = ubuntu , but i just recieve information is something wrong
[02:54] <tony_> Is there any way that i can Rest file folder permission to what was originally when i installed Ubuntu ????
[02:55] <tony_> Rest =  Reset
[02:55] <ubuntu> hello I would like to share a folder called trc, like this sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc ~/New -o urd = ubuntu , but i just recieve information is something wrong
[02:57] <tony_> Is there any way that i can Reset file folder permission to what was originally when i installed Ubuntu ????
[03:03] <thewheat> Is any utilities to check a Mac HFS drive that is connected via target mode to an non-Mac machine running kubuntu?
[03:04] <hoboi> tony no there is no memory as to what they were as far as i know
[03:06] <david> I'm trying to write to my xp drive and this is the line that i wrote in my fstab, "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    auto user exec rw,umask=007,gid=46 0       1", can someone tell me whats wrong?
[03:08] <hoboi> david  did you mount it
[03:10] <david> before i changed ti it mounted fine, after i changed it when i goto the mount point its empty
[03:10] <Omar> Hello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu
[03:11] <Omar> Pls I just need to know how to have more permissions
[03:13] <hoboi> david  so mount does not complain and  df -k  shows it mounted
[03:14] <hoboi> david  do   df -k and make sure it is not mounted twice
[03:18] <Omar> Hello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu
[03:18] <Omar> Hello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu
[03:18] <hoboi> Omar: did the mount fail
[03:20] <Omar> hoboi: no I mounted it
[03:20] <Omar> hoboi: normally
[03:20] <Omar> hoboi: but I can-t move -em
[03:20] <Omar> hoboi: no premissions
[03:21] <Omar> hoboi: both disks are mounted maybe the other one is the problem right
[03:22] <hoboi> Omar: since i am not currently running  ubuntu distro tell me what  urd=ubuntu  does.  my mount man page does not show it
[03:23] <Omar> hoboi: this is what I did  to mount the first disco: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot
[03:23] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i cant recall eever using   cifs
[03:23] <Omar> hoboi: should I put something else,
[03:23] <hoboi> Omar: what are the permsissions of  New and the uid and owner of New
[03:24] <Omar> urd=ubuntu also
[03:24] <Omar> hoboi: urd=ubuntu also
[03:24] <hoboi> Omar: are u using   sudo  cp ...
[03:25] <Omar> hoboi: yes
[03:25] <Omar> hoboi: tell me how to unmount this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot
[03:26] <Omar> hoboi: and how to mount it wiht permissiones
[03:27] <hoboi> Omar:  umount /mnt/ubunturoot  to unmount  but that may not be your problem
[03:27] <hoboi> Omar: what error r u getting
[03:27] <tony_> I have two partition, one xp other ubuntu.. can i reinstall ubuntu without damaging xp ?
[03:28] <Omar> hoboi: Access denied to /mnt/ubunturoot/home/omar/Libros
[03:28] <hoboi> Omar: do you have such a directory
[03:29] <Omar> hoboi: yes sure
[03:29] <hoboi> tony_: should be able to as long as you tell ubuntu to install over the existing ubuntu
[03:29] <tony_> thanks.. this permission thing withlinux is frustrting
[03:30] <tony_> my Grub will be the same or do i have to modify it somewhat ??
[03:30] <hoboi> tony_:  permissions take a little getting use to
[03:30] <tobias__> SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO);
[03:30] <tobias__> oh
[03:30] <tony_> developers need to make it much easier
[03:30] <tobias__> wrong window
[03:30] <hoboi> tony_: your grub will be overwritten by the installer and it should look as it does now
[03:31] <tony_> thanks.. im back to same place as last week.. ((( pulling my hair out )))
[03:31] <hoboi> tony_: actually it is as easy as i can remember in 14 years
[03:31] <Omar> hoboi: yes sure
[03:31] <Omar> hoboi: I need to know how to mount with all permissions
[03:31] <hoboi> tony_: better expunge the XP and stay w/ub
[03:31] <tony_> yes.. i use ftp program for window , there i can change permssion of my file and folder, ( linux server ) and window it shows the permission number such as  775 etc
[03:32] <tony_> i think that would be a better idea
[03:32] <hoboi> Omar: the permissions are determined by the receiving directorys permissions and ownership
[03:32] <tony_> thats where the problme is ..
[03:32] <hoboi> Omar: what are the perms of  Libros
[03:32] <tony_> there are users and groups
[03:33] <tony_> yet there is no descriptive guide as to what they do and how they effect entire system
[03:33] <tony_> i thought desktop would be much easier to use
[03:34] <hoboi> tony_:  desktop is controlled by permissions and ownership at it lowest level
[03:34] <tony_> like window ..
[03:34] <tony_> i set my self as admin
[03:34] <Omar> hoboi: libros is in a disk that I mounted like this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot
[03:34] <tony_> but yet i can not delet folder
[03:34] <Omar> hoboi: maybe is mounted without permissions
[03:34] <tony_> no clue as why
[03:35] <tony_> i tried other suggestion using command..
[03:35] <tony_> but that aint working either
[03:35] <hoboi> Omar: i know but what are the permissions on the libros  directory
[03:35] <Omar> hoboi: every permission
[03:35] <hoboi> tony_: what are you trying to delete
[03:36] <hoboi> Omar: does that mean  -drwxrwxrwx  or something different
[03:36] <tony_> i copied oscommer in /var/www/   try to access trough browser , it tries to downlaod the folder , and when i try to dele , i get access denied
[03:37] <tony_> folder permission, Ownership user : root GRoup : admin
[03:37] <hoboi> tony_: who owns  oscommer  and what is the apache2  group and uid values
[03:37] <Omar> hoboi: it has every permission, root, root, I can even erase there, but no in my hda1
[03:38] <Omar> hoboi: mean what
[03:38] <tony_> HOW can i check Apache2 UID ??
[03:39] <hoboi> tony_: cat /etc/group  | grep -i apache  for group
[03:39] <hoboi> tony_: cat /etc/passwd |grep -i  apache  for  uid
[03:40] <hoboi> Omar: the  ACL's have been changing in the last several years for security reasons and I have not kept up and since I run as root always i dont have there problems
[03:40] <tony_> humm, i entered those command, i get nothing
[03:40] <hoboi> Omar: the short answer is i may not be able to help you
[03:41] <Omar> hoboi: pls teach me how to erase, move and copy in root
[03:41] <hoboi> tony_: did you install the apache2 server
[03:41] <tony_> yes. with php and mysql
[03:41] <tony_> i guess, im going to reinstall ubuntu..
[03:41] <tony_> for 10th time :)
[03:42] <hoboi> Omar: to become root execute   sudo su   but be forwarned you could mess things up
[03:42] <tony_> i guess, im getting one step closer to go back with window .. err
[03:42] <hoboi> tony_: no need to reinstall that is what  apache logs are for
[03:42] <Omar> hoboi: but I have to move my files
[03:42] <hoboi> Omar: then move them a little at a time
[03:43] <tony_> im sure i scrwed up with permission somehow .. reason for ubuntu installation is to have access to apache and php , mysql
[03:43] <hoboi> tony_: execute   ps -eaf  |grep -i apache  and see what comes up
[03:44] <hoboi> tony_: you should get several processes named  httpd
[03:44] <tony_> i get www-data
[03:44] <Omar> hoboi: how
[03:44] <Omar> hoboi: you mean , normally
[03:44] <Omar> hoboi: ok
[03:45] <hoboi> tony_: what is in the extreme right of the display
[03:45] <tony_> lol.. my user , group window is frozen .. heheh. remind me good old windows day
[03:45] <tony_> uer/sbin/apache
[03:46] <tony_> 00:00:00
[03:47] <hoboi> tony_: wish is knew how to use pastebin  i am new to  irc  and dont know how to tell you to grab part of the display and send it to a place i can view it
[03:47] <hoboi> anyone can tell me how to use pastebin?
[03:47] <Slynderdale> Just paste and click submit?
[03:48] <tony_> is cool, thanks for the help, im going to reinstall ubuntu again , if didn't work, i wil install apache2triad for window and stay with microcrap
[03:48] <hoboi> Slynderdale: thanks
[03:48] <hoboi> tony_: grap one of the lines from  ps  and  send it to me here
[03:49] <tony_> thanks.. is easier to reintall everything :) .
[03:49] <hoboi> tony_:  no dont go there you are close
[03:49] <tony_> lol
[03:49] <hoboi> tony_: ok
[03:49] <M4X1MUM> how do i set default browser?
[03:50] <tony_> will reinstall tomorrow and will try apache again . hope works this time
[03:50] <Slynderdale> hoboi: http://pastebin.com/
[03:50] <Slynderdale> Basicly just paste what you want there and click submit and post the link
[03:50] <Slynderdale> Its simple
[03:53] <morla> hi, why are white transparent mouse cursors dark grey on my box?
[03:53] <hoboi> Slynderdale: thanks i am basically using one line at the bottom of the  konversation  window so i will look at the url you posted  thanks
[03:54] <Omar> hoboi: I am trying this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot -o unmask=000
[03:54] <Omar> hoboi: but I still got an error
[03:55] <genioreal> anyone knows a good Hard Drive Data Recovery Software that runs on LINUX?
[03:56] <hoboi> Omar: 000 is no permissions  if you want to try it that way  use  777
[03:57] <Omar> hoboi: thans
[03:58] <Omar> hoboi: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,  missing codepage or other error    In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try     dmesg | tail  or so    :(
[03:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm i do NOT think you combine umask= with an ext3 filesystem
[03:59] <Dr_willis>  /mnt/ubunturoot   exists allready dont it?
[04:00] <hoboi> Dr_willis: i dont remember that one either  -o  rw  whatever
[04:00] <Dr_willis> well ext2/3 has its own permissions system  using the normal linux way.. vfat,  needs options to 'simulate' the linux way..
[04:00] <Dr_willis> for lack of better words. :P
[04:01] <Dr_willis> try it without the   -o stuff
[04:01] <hoboi> Dr_willis: since i dont mount much vfat i am in the dark  the recipient is  omar  perhaps you can help him out
[04:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:02] <Dr_willis> omar try it without the   -o stuff
[04:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:02] <hoboi> whats that smell :)
[04:02] <Omar> Dr_willis: same error
[04:03] <RawSewage> is there any way to fix this annoyance:  right-clicking something usually requires some twitch skill, because when you right-click, it usually blinks on and off really fast, so you have to try it multiple times, or hold down the right-click and be tricky
[04:03] <RawSewage> does that make sense
[04:03] <Dr_willis> Omar,  lets start with the basics... the direcoty /mnt/ubunturoot   does exist?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <Dr_willis> twitch skill?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <Omar> Dr_willis: yes my freind, I am mounting
[04:04] <Omar> Dr_willis: yes my freind, I am mounting that hda1 there, but with little permissions
[04:04] <Dr_willis> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot
[04:05] <Dr_willis> works? or not?
[04:05] <Omar> Dr_willis: perfectly
[04:05] <RawSewage> yeah, for example, I want to right click a file in Konqueror, to rename or something, and I have to right-click a few times, because the right-click menu usually blinks on and off really fast
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Omar,  so when you try to mess with the permissions it fails to work?
[04:05] <Omar> Dr_willis: yes
[04:06] <Dr_willis> Omar,  Im thinking that the umask option (and others) are  ONLY for the vfat filesystem and perhaps a few others.. Not for ext2/3
[04:06] <Omar> Dr_willis: what can I do, use vfat_
[04:07] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, do you understand now
[04:07] <hoboi> Omar: what type of file system is on /dev/hda1  windows or  linux
[04:07] <RawSewage> I dread right-clicking things now
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Omar,  no idea what you are trying to do really.. you mount ext2/3 without  using that option
[04:07] <RawSewage> It's more of an artforom than a computer command
[04:08] <Omar> Dr_willis: used to be linux
[04:08] <RawSewage> You asked me
[04:08] <RawSewage> why did you ask
[04:08] <Omar> hoboi: used to be linux
[04:08] <hoboi> Omar: did you create it
[04:08] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  personall y i find the click to rename - feature to be brain dead. but i cant say that ive ever had any other right clicking  issues.. i must be skilled in click-fu
[04:08] <Omar> Dr_willis: I can mounted but I can-t move files or folders, or erase -em
[04:09] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, ok
[04:09] <Dr_willis> Omar,  chown/chmod the files on the drive to be owned by the proper user. or do it as root.
[04:09] <Omar> hoboi: I am using a liveCD in a ubuntu
[04:09] <nikon> can anyone help with samba issues, i have exhausted internet searches.
[04:09] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  it almost sounds like you rmouse is messed up. :P
[04:10] <hoboi> Omar:  execut this command   mount |grep -i hda1    and sent me the results
[04:10] <RawSewage> its more like other processes cause the menu to disappear
[04:10] <Omar> hoboi: but my ubuntu doesn-t open , I am moving everything to another machine in order to format and use kubuntu
[04:10] <RawSewage> such as downloading things
[04:10] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  i mean.. i right click and the menu stays up untill i click on somthing.. or right click again,, Hmm...
[04:10] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  Hmm... thats.. interesting
[04:10] <RawSewage> I right click, and see the menu for a brief instant before it disappears
[04:11] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  ive seen where dma being disabled for the drives make the system/mouse move erraticaly.
[04:11] <Omar> hoboi: nothing happened in my console , but I can not access to my disk anymore
[04:11] <hoboi> Omar: you mean  mount |grep -i hda1   does not return anything
[04:12] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, ok, thanks anyway
[04:12] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,   i cant get a similer action unless i purposly click outside the menu that pops up
[04:12] <Omar> hoboi: not just back to the console line
[04:12] <hoboi> RawSewage: change mice and see what happens
[04:12] <KrAmMeR_> what program would i use to install themes?
[04:12] <RawSewage> I dont have another mouse
[04:13] <hoboi> Omar: what is returned if you do   mount   only
[04:13] <hoboi> RawSewage: scratch that
[04:14] <Omar> hoboi: lot of things, can I past -em here
[04:15] <hoboi> Omar: just tell me if one of them of them starts with   /dev/hda1
[04:15] <burnninator> Is it a known issue in kubuntu that it takes forever to do any operations on an sd card, writing or mounting or anything?
[04:15] <Omar> hoboi: /dev/hda1 on /mnt/ubunturoot type ext3 (rw)
[04:16] <Omar> hoboi: but when it-s not mounted nothing
[04:16] <fignew> burnninator: it's just you
[04:16] <fignew> burnninator: however, you might have luck disabling/enabling DMA
[04:16] <burnninator> it takes like 10 minutes to even unmount any flash memory, i tried other cards and other card readers/writers
[04:16] <fignew> USB?
[04:17] <hoboi> Omar: ok you see the  (rw)  you have  read/write to that slice so the problem is in ownership or directory/file permissions lets go there next
[04:17] <burnninator> one is onboard and the other card reader is usb
[04:17] <burnninator> the onboard one could be usb also i guess.
[04:17] <hoboi> Omar: execute  ls -ld   /mnt and tell me what it says
[04:17] <fignew> burnninator: try it with the kubuntu 6.10 beta live cf
[04:17] <fignew> cd*
[04:17] <fignew> and see if it's fixed
[04:17] <Omar> hoboi: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 60 2006-10-01 22:50 /mnt
[04:18] <fignew> however, I can tell you, it's most likely your hardware
[04:18] <burnninator> how would i check if its a dma problem?
[04:18] <Omar> hoboi: the mnt is blue
[04:18] <burnninator> where do i check to see if its enabled/disabled?
[04:18] <hoboi> Omar: ok now   ls -ld /mnt/ubunturoot
[04:19] <fignew> burnninator: nevermind that
[04:19] <Omar> hoboi: drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2006-10-01 02:56 /mnt/ubunturoot
[04:19] <fignew> burnninator: if it's also happening with usb, then DMA has nothing to do with it
[04:19] <fignew> burnninator: does it happen with CDs too?
[04:19] <burnninator> it doesn't happen with my usb hd
[04:19] <burnninator> no, cd's/dvd's work fine
[04:20] <burnninator> burning is fine @ 8x on dvd's
[04:20] <burnninator> its just the media
[04:20] <fignew> I'd just wait and try Edgy and see if it's fixed
[04:20] <burnninator> flash media
[04:20] <fignew> wait... is it the same SD/CF card each time?
[04:20] <fignew> cause it could be a busted card
[04:20] <hoboi> Omar: ok now a little test  execute    cat /dev/null > /mnt/ubunturoot/test
[04:21] <hoboi> Omar: then   ls -l /mnt/ubunturoot/test
[04:21] <kanak> ps x
[04:21] <burnninator> the card works fine on my powerbook, and my windows machine
[04:21] <burnninator> and it works fine if i boot into windows on this computer
[04:22] <fignew> yes, but have you tried different cards?
[04:22] <fignew> I have some cards that work fine in my camera, but not in my PDA...
[04:22] <burnninator> im lookin for one.
[04:22] <hoboi> Slynderdale: back to pasetbin another question or two if you please
[04:22] <Slynderdale> Go ahead
[04:23] <hoboi> Slynderdale: ok so i put text in the box and send to  me??  is that correct
[04:23] <Omar> hoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied
[04:23] <hoboi> Omar: hang on a min
[04:23] <Omar> hoboi: ls: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: No such file or directory the second
[04:24] <Slynderdale> hoboi: Thats basicly it, don't need to sign up or anything. Put the text there, submit and save the link or send it to soemone
[04:25] <fignew> you see burnninator, linux may be detecting something wrong (such as corruption) that windows isn't...
[04:25] <fignew> so therefore it checks the data before it unmounts
[04:25] <fignew> ^^ just an idea
[04:25] <burnninator> i just tried a 1gb card, and it wrote the files better but its been doing "safely remove" for about 2 minutes now
[04:26] <fignew> is it blinking?
[04:26] <burnninator> yeah, really fast
[04:27] <fignew> was it a big file?
[04:27] <hoboi> Omar: ok did you put sudo in front of that cat command
[04:27] <burnninator> 200mb
[04:27] <fignew> ok
[04:27] <burnninator> its still going
[04:27] <burnninator> its kinda frustrating
[04:27] <fignew> when it's done: remount it, write another large file, go to command prompt and type sync, then "safely remove"
[04:28] <Omar> hoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied
[04:28] <burnninator> it even takes a minute or 2 to delete a file.
[04:29] <fignew> sounds like a bad card
[04:29] <fignew> like I said
[04:29] <fignew> try a different card
[04:29] <hoboi> Omar: execute    sudo  cat  /dev/null >/mnt/ubunturoot/test  does it fail
[04:29] <burnninator> this is a different card
[04:29] <burnninator> i have a 1gb and a 2gb, same thing
[04:29] <nikon> when i try and connect my windows to my linux i get "error: connection status, limited or no connectivity"
[04:30] <fignew> burnninator: what brand
[04:30] <fignew> ?
[04:30] <burnninator> sandisk
[04:30] <fignew> hmm
[04:30] <fignew> try it with the instructions I gave
[04:30] <burnninator> like i said, they work fine on everything else
[04:30] <fignew> the sync command
[04:30] <burnninator> i am doing the sync thing right now
[04:30] <burnninator> its blinking fast again
[04:31] <fignew> good, wait until it's done
[04:31] <fignew> then do remove
[04:31] <burnninator> what exactly does that do?
[04:31] <fignew> writes the changes
[04:31] <Dr_willis> nikon,  what is saying that?
[04:31] <burnninator> it shouldn't take this long, right?
[04:31] <fignew> correct
[04:31] <burnninator> wierd
[04:32] <nikon> my windows network neiborhood
[04:32] <fignew> nikon: when you plug your windows computer directly into your linux box?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> nikon,  only time ive seen a message like that under windows - is when the windows machne was unable to get a proper ip/dns/gateway information from the dhcp server
[04:32] <hoboi> Omar: what happened
[04:32] <fignew> Dr_willis: I think that's a windows error
[04:33] <Omar> hoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denie
[04:33] <nikon> yes
[04:33] <fignew> yes to my question?
[04:33] <nikon> yes
[04:33] <burnninator> doing all this(what seems like) unnecessary writing is probably shortening the life of my card right?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> fignew,  yep..  normally ive seen that when my dhcp server goes down.. or the cable is unplugged/messed up
[04:33] <hoboi> Omar: hmm  strange  you did use  sudo  correct?
[04:34] <fignew> burnninator: not really, they're rated for 500,000 writes
[04:34] <Dr_willis> nikon,  clarify your answers. :P    For your network. how are you connected the 2 pcs together?
[04:34] <kanak> hey guys
[04:34] <burnninator> sync is still going
[04:34] <fignew> burnninator: anyways, the card doesn't fail all at once
[04:34] <kanak> whts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?
[04:34] <nikon> yes box to box
[04:34] <kanak> whts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?
[04:34] <Omar> hoboi: yes
[04:34] <kanak> thast free
[04:34] <Dr_willis> nikon,  you DID use a crossover cable?
[04:34] <burnninator> alright its done
[04:34] <fignew> nikon: are you trying to get online
[04:35] <nikon> no just network between two comps
[04:35] <hoboi> Omar:
[04:35] <kanak> whts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?
[04:35] <burnninator> i did the safely remove thing and that part didn't take forever this time, only the sync thing did
[04:35] <hoboi> cd /mnt/ubunturoot
[04:35] <fignew> kanak: use your brain
[04:35] <Zaire> anyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb
[04:35] <hoboi> Omar: then do  ls -la
[04:35] <kanak> use my brain?
[04:35] <nikon> im runnning linux on my laptop and windows on my home comp
[04:35] <Dr_willis> nikon,  ok lets reclarify this.. You got 2 pc's each has a network card.. you have a normal network cable going from one network card to the other pc's network card?
[04:35] <nikon> yes
[04:35] <Dr_willis> That wont work. :P
[04:36] <Zaire> anyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb
[04:36] <Dr_willis> You need either a crossover cable.. or a hub/switch/router in the middle and use 2 cables
[04:36] <nikon> what do i have to do
[04:36] <kanak> Can you set a network bridge on here?
[04:36] <nikon> ok
[04:36] <kanak> I have 2 Ethernet ports.. (2 Cards)
[04:36] <nikon> thank you
[04:36] <kanak> One Built in and one thats a pci card..
[04:36] <Dr_willis> I suggest getting a low end router. :)  they are handy
[04:36] <fignew> burnninator: you see... when linux writes something, unless "sync" is specified in /etc/fstab, it will act like it's done, and continue writing the changes later (when it's not as busy)
[04:36] <kanak> Can I set up a Network Bridge?
[04:36] <M4X1MUM> how to set default browser?
[04:37] <M4X1MUM> how to set default browser in kubuntu anyone?
[04:37] <Omar> hoboi: lot of things again
[04:37] <nikon> thanks for all the help
[04:37] <Zaire> anyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb
[04:38] <hoboi> Omar: ok execute this   >test   and tell me what happens
[04:38] <burnninator> so, should i add sync to fstab?
[04:38] <fignew> burnninator: no
[04:38] <hoboi> Omar: that is  right arrow no space and the word test
[04:38] <fignew> Zaire: PHP4/5
[04:38] <fignew> ?
[04:39] <fignew> burnninator: It looks like there's some corruption going on somewhere
[04:39] <Zaire> php buletin board not plain php
[04:39] <burnninator> so what can i do to make this process faster, i should be able to put the card in, write a file, and eject it without any hangups
[04:39] <Zaire> basically Im trying to install a forum but its not seeing mysql-server
[04:39] <fignew> Zaire: yes, but what version of PHP is it running on??
[04:39] <Zaire> 5
[04:40] <fignew> burnninator: sorry, I'm out of ideas...
[04:40] <burnninator> ill try the 6.1 beta
[04:40] <burnninator> thanks for the help
[04:40] <fignew> :/
[04:40] <fignew> Zaire: php5-mysql
[04:40] <Slynderdale> Zaire: Did you install/compile MySQL and made sure its process is running and set up correctly?
[04:41] <Zaire> I used apt-get so I wouldn't have to install manually
[04:42] <Omar> hoboi: like this
[04:42] <fignew> do you have that package already?
[04:42] <Omar> hoboi:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ >test
[04:42] <Omar> hoboi: nothing happened
[04:42] <pibarnas> is there a way for installing kde-3.5.4 in kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS without beaking the whole system? A tutorial, something like that? Could someone help me?
[04:42] <jpiccolo> is there a better gui tool for archiving? than ark
[04:42] <Zaire> not the php5-mysql I just got that
[04:42] <fignew> should work then :/
[04:42] <fignew> wait
[04:43] <fignew> do ps aux | grep "mysql"
[04:43] <fignew> and see what that returns
[04:43] <hoboi> Omar: ok now execute   ls -l  test  and tell me what happens
[04:43] <fignew> pibarnas: yep, upgrade to 6.10
[04:44] <Zaire> ok that command gave me a screen of stuff that confuses the hell out of me
[04:44] <pibarnas> ;)
[04:44] <Omar> hoboi: -rw-r--r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 0 2006-10-02 02:41 test
[04:45] <fignew> pibarnas: really though, you're just boud to mess stuff up if you upgrade KDE yourself
[04:45] <fignew> trustme, I've been in similar situations
[04:45] <Zaire> An error has occurred during installation
[04:45] <Zaire> The PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose
[04:45] <fignew> was that the same error as before?
[04:46] <hoboi> Omar: so now we know you have permissions in that directory  execute   rm  test  to remove the  test file
[04:46] <Zaire> yep
[04:46] <graft> pibarnas: just upgrade to edgy if you want 3.5.4
[04:46] <graft> err, yeah, what everyone else said
[04:46] <fignew> Zaire: try sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[04:46] <fignew> or something like that
[04:46] <hoboi> Omar: now execute   sudo  cat /dev/null  > /mnt/ubunturoot/test    and  tell me what happens
[04:46] <pibarnas> okay, thank you guys.
[04:47] <Omar> hoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied
[04:47] <Zaire> close its apache2 restart
[04:47] <fignew> :P
[04:47] <fignew> meh at apache... I run lighttpd instead :)
[04:48] <hoboi> Omar:  execute   id   and tell me what is returned
[04:48] <Dr_willis> you dare to 'meh' apache!!!
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Blasphmy!
[04:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:48] <fignew> :-O
[04:48] <Omar> hoboi: uid=999(ubuntu) gid=999(ubuntu) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),111(admin),999(ubuntu)
[04:49] <Zaire> apache is the number 1 server out there
[04:49] <Zaire> and restarting it gave me something different i'll say that much
[04:49] <Slynderdale> Dr_willis: IIS is better ;p
[04:49] <Slynderdale> Just kidding
[04:50] <Zaire> hardly lol its crap
[04:50] <hoboi> Omar: lets open a private channel here goes
[04:50] <Dr_willis> I rember seeing a Micro web server for embeded devices - it was just a tad bigger then the cat-5 conector jack. :)
[04:51] <hoboi> Omar: click on the  hoboi tab
[04:51] <M4X1MUM> how do i install an nvidia driver?
[04:51] <fignew> anyways, as I was saying... lighttpd > apache
[04:51] <Slynderdale> I read an article of someone setting up a small webserver on their PDA over a Wireless connection ;p
[04:52] <mark__> help
[04:52] <Omar> hoboi: I am there talking i guess I have to register or something
[04:52] <Zaire> its telling me cannot connect to database
[04:52] <hoboi> Omar: interesting i dont see you hold on
[04:53] <mark__> I created a root account in ubuntu, now my sound is locked only to that user, how do I change it?
[04:53] <hoboi> Omar: try it again
[04:54] <Pupeno> !mp3
[04:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:54] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:54] <Omar> hoboi: I am talking
[04:54] <Dr_willis> mark__,  only to the root user?
[04:55] <hoboi> Omar: yes be we are not seeing each other hold on
[04:55] <Omar> hoboi: I think I gotta pay
[04:55] <mark__> yes- I can hear sound up until the login splash- which does not let me log in as root
[04:56] <mark__> then under my user acct, sound is disabled
[04:56] <mark__> when I have looked for the reason, it says only root can use the device
[04:56] <Dr_willis> thats odd.
[04:56] <hoboi> anyone know why i cannot open a private channel between  omar  and  myself
[04:56] <mark__> yes
[04:56] <Zaire> what would make it so the phpbb install couldn't connect to the database
[04:56] <Dr_willis> mark__,  how did you 'create' a root account?
[04:57] <mark__> I was doing fine with breezy but when I upgraded to drake it messed up
[04:57] <Zaire> its easy you just type sudo passwd root
[04:57] <mark__> well, the first account I made during install was called root
[04:57] <fignew> hoboi: his/your nick has to be registered
[04:57] <Dr_willis> hoboi,  thers some security settings on this server where peopl ehave to both be identified to msg? not sure..
[04:57] <hoboi> fignew: ok mine perhaps his is not thanks
[04:57] <Dr_willis> mark__,  EGADS you dident tell the installer to make  'root' as the first account?!
[04:57] <RawSewage> Anyone know how I can create my own nzb files
[04:57] <hoboi> thanks guys
[04:57] <mark__> I am a throwback, I have to have a root account to separate my admin from other functions
[04:58] <mark__> but I did not expect my sound to be affected
[04:58] <kutan> Can someone give me the name of a midi to ogg converter?
[04:58] <kutan> :x
[04:58] <hilltop> Hello all, I noted than kubuntu liveCD has kwrite at teh command line but I didn't see it in the menu. Same thing when I added kde to my GNOME ubuntu installed on HD.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> mark__,  you did not enter a 'normal' user name at the installer question then eh?
[04:58] <mark__> no
[04:58] <kutan> Or just any sound conversion software that includes MIDI and OGG format
[04:58] <hoboi> Omar: have you executed   the following commands   /nick  omar    then   /msg nickserv register  <passwd>  to register your  omar  name
[04:59] <Omar> hoboi: nop
[04:59] <mark__> when I first ran ubuntu after install, I had to drop out of login, create a new user with my name and then give it a passwd
[04:59] <Dr_willis> mark__,  well i thought they fixed that 'issue' in the installer..
[04:59] <hoboi> Omar: then for us to comm on a pvt channel you have to register that way  can you do that
[04:59] <Omar> hoboi: have I now
[04:59] <RawSewage> Anyone know if there's a way to throttle the speed on klibido
[04:59] <Dr_willis> mark__,  you realize that all you had to do to get root working normally was 'sudo passwd ' ? :P
[04:59] <hoboi> Omar: let me know when it is registered and i will open chan
[05:00] <mark__> Yes I know I could have done that now, but I did not know that then
[05:00] <Omar> hoboi: in the console
[05:00] <mark__> but why is my sound locked only to root?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> mark__,  ive heard of others doing similer 'root' thing in the installer.. but i got no idea what to fix/correct it..
[05:00] <fignew> mark
[05:00] <Dr_willis> i would guess the users/groups for the sound devices are not set correctly
[05:00] <hoboi> Omar: no in the irc.freenode  tab  of   knoversation
[05:00] <fignew> mark__: try adding the user to the sound group :)
[05:01] <hoboi> Omar: or what ever node you signed on with
[05:01] <mark__> sound group?
[05:01] <fignew> uh huh
[05:01] <Omar>  /nick  omar
[05:01] <Dr_willis> in /etc/group ---->    audio:x:29:willis
[05:01] <Omar>  /msg nickserv register  <omar>
[05:01] <Dr_willis> willis is my user name. :P
[05:02] <Dr_willis> i got 12 lines in group that have my username
[05:02] <Dr_willis> I think you will find other things broken.
[05:02] <hoboi> Omar: not not here on the irc  node
[05:02] <fignew> hehe... perhaps not sound... audio :)
[05:03] <fignew> no need to mess with /etc/groups
[05:03] <fignew> there's a command
[05:03] <fignew> i believe it's adduser username audio
[05:03] <kane_> is there a way to remove an app and none of the deps?
[05:03] <fignew> or perhaps useradd
[05:03] <hoboi> Omar: depending on the version of  konversation it will be on the bottom in a tab  or on the  left top of window
[05:03] <[renbolicious] > how can i add repos with kubuntu
[05:03] <[renbolicious] > tutorial is only for ubuntu
[05:03] <Dr_willis> !repos
[05:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:04] <Dr_willis> [renbolicious] ,  install synaptic... and follow tutorial is one way
[05:04] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or use easysource
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or edit the sources.list by hand
[05:04] <mark__> ok- I added myself to audio, how do I activate it? do I have to reboot?
[05:04] <[renbolicious] > last one im trying to avoid
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or fire up adept
[05:04] <fignew> a reboot would def. work
[05:04] <Dr_willis> editing sources.list is trivial.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> its just uncommenting some lines
[05:04] <fignew> but a simple login/out *should* work too
[05:05] <Dr_willis> or backit up, and use the !easysource page
[05:05] <mark__> Thanks for your help I will give it a try... here goes nothing...
[05:05] <hoboi> omar2: looks like you had to change names a little
[05:06] <Dr_willis> cat /etc/group | grep root        --> shows one line for me..  if mark__ has more then that.. he needs to do some more editing. :P
[05:06] <Dr_willis> when he returns
[05:07] <rideout> has ubuntu modified the standard way users/groups work? i can't seem to add my user to a groups, "sudo adduser rideout mytestgroup" work as far as it showing in /etc/goup, but the groups command doesn't show it, nor can i access files with that group
[05:08] <fignew> rideout: never looked too deeply into it... but debian uses the same system
[05:08] <[renbolicious] > how do i install software with kubuntu?
[05:08] <[renbolicious] > what is the command
[05:08] <[renbolicious] > yum?
[05:08] <[renbolicious] > apt get?
[05:08] <rideout> renbolicious: apt-get
[05:09] <Dr_willis> egads...
[05:09] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:09] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:10] <[renbolicious] > ?
[05:10] <M4X1MUM> people how to exit from x?
[05:10] <[renbolicious] > do i need to install certain packages so i can listen to mp3s?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  logout menu item - or alt-ctrl-backspace for a EXIT NOW! sort of thing
[05:10] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <Dr_willis> [renbolicious] ,  yes.. with some players.. it depends on the players as to what needs to be installed.
[05:11] <Healot> M4X1MUM, terminate/stopping the server? or you just want to get on the virtual terminal?
[05:11] <dme> after reading the about.com entry on adding a harddisk to my system, i have some questions
[05:11] <M4X1MUM> i need to login as root to install driver
[05:11] <dme> it says i have to be logged on as root... true, or will the 'su' command suffice?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  you dont really need to.. 'sudo' works great.
[05:12] <dme> sudo, excuse me
[05:12] <Dr_willis> dme,  sudo works wonders. :)
[05:12] <M4X1MUM> i tried that, and the installer says i have to exit from x
[05:12] <Dr_willis> or sudo -s
[05:12] <dme> thank you, Dw
[05:12] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  thats not the same as loging in as root
[05:12] <M4X1MUM> ooh
[05:12] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  what are you installing?
[05:12] <M4X1MUM> nvidia driver
[05:12] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  you read up on the !nvidia page yet?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:12] <rideout> M4X1MUM: for a hard disk?
[05:13] <rideout> sorry that was dme
[05:13] <Dr_willis> or are you refering to the nforce/chipset drivers?
[05:13] <M4X1MUM> not for harddisk, for graphic card
[05:13] <dme> next 'add harddisk' question: since fstab already shows an entry for /dev/hdb (the cd drive), do i call my new hard disk /dev/hdc, or will linux automatically bump up the /etc/fstab entry to the next avail drive letter for the cd drive?
[05:13] <Dr_willis>  - read the !nvidia stuff then.. its about a 3 min setup.. that can be done from X and synaptic/adept
[05:14] <Zaire> anyone know what this means http://pastebin.ca/188439
[05:14] <Dr_willis> dme,  the drives get their names from where they are installed at.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> dme,  if you plugged the hd into where the cd was at.. it will be hdb
[05:14] <[renbolicious] > nice
[05:14] <Dr_willis> dme,  'fdisk -l' shows  the drives/partitions seen
[05:14] <Dr_willis> well  -->  sudo fdisk -l
[05:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:14] <dme> if i plug it into the 2nd hd connector on the motherboard?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i would guess that would be hdc
[05:15] <dme> thank you
[05:15] <M4X1MUM> but i dont have synaptic
[05:15] <Dr_willis> drive letters dont 'bump/change' like they do under windows.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  install it.. or read the docs and use adept - the gist is the same...
[05:15] <dme> i was wondering if u would understand my question was coming from a windows p.o.v.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  select the extra repos.. search, install
[05:15] <Dr_willis> hdb is hdb is always hdb.. :P
[05:16] <Dr_willis> even if its a cd, or somthing else..
[05:16] <Dr_willis> or has 100 partitions.. or 1
[05:16] <dme> does unix/linux have an official convention as to what i name the directory i mount the hd to, or do i just name it whatever i'm going to use it for (making backups)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> you can mount them anywhere
[05:16] <Dr_willis>  - /media/SOMTHING - is normal for ubuntu
[05:17] <Dr_willis> make sure the directory exists BEFOR you try to mount the device
[05:17] <Dr_willis> so /media/hdc1 is a good name.. as would be /media/MyBackups
[05:17] <dme> does the new hard disk need a swap partition as the boot harddisk has?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> or /media/porn
[05:17] <Dr_willis> err.. forget that last one..
[05:17] <dme> forgotten
[05:17] <Dr_willis> swap partitions are for the os to use.. you can gain a little preformace by useing several swaps on different drives..
[05:17] <Dr_willis> but not needed
[05:18] <Dr_willis> I tend to put a little swap partiion on all my hds.
[05:18] <dme> very good
[05:18] <Dr_willis> 512mb or so.. since i tend to move them around a lot. and use live cd's a lot.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> but its not NEEDED
[05:19] <dme> one last question: i have a Silicon Image raid card... any idea where i would look for a linux driver for it (none on mfg cd, and silicon image's website is inadequate at best)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> google is our friend, and the ubuntu forums would be the first stop..
[05:19] <dme> thank you
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Ive found a lot of raid stuff to be rather lacking in linux friendlyness. :(
[05:19] <cpk2> hrmm i think i keep losing things in my panel and kmenu hehe
[05:19] <Dr_willis> but linux can do a software raid..  but i dont mess with raid any more
[05:20] <dme> question grab bag: any pointers a newbie like me might not know i need?
[05:20] <Zaire> how do I fix this http://pastebin.ca/188439
[05:20] <Dr_willis> dme,  IF you ever mess witht he grub loader.. rember this - GRUB starts counting at 0 :) not 1.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> dme,  Linux is about "layers and Legos" - Little blocks forming software layers that then form the foundation for the next layer of blocks (programs) :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> dme,  and rember thers NO 'n' in umount (for UNmount)
[05:21] <hoboi> omar2: are you still around
[05:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:21] <cpk2> i think i might need to completely reset my kde settings, how would i do this?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  delete those .kde dirs
[05:22] <dme> thank you; wife is calling me; must go; your help is appreciated
[05:22] <Zaire> hey Hobbsee you know anything about mysql and phpbb?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> .kde/    .kderc
[05:22] <cpk2> Dr_willis: could i just rmdir -rf .kde ?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> not sure what .kderc does
[05:22] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  yep.. that should doit.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> rm -rf
[05:22] <cpk2> i wont shoot myself in the foot here?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Zaire: nope
[05:22] <Dr_willis> does rmdir take -rf ?
[05:22] <Zaire> crap
[05:22] <Dr_willis> or just rename the .kde dir
[05:22] <Zaire> Im having database issues with mysql
[05:22] <Dr_willis> thats safer
[05:22] <cpk2> Dr_willis: i like that idea better =)
[05:23] <Zaire> !php5-mysql
[05:23] <ubotu> php5-mysql: MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[05:23] <Dr_willis> when doing new installs and keeping the /home partition ive had issues wht gnome and kde settings screwing things up
[05:24] <[renbolicious] > jeez
[05:24] <[renbolicious] > my system just crashed
[05:24] <[renbolicious] > all i did was running glxgears
[05:24] <cpk2> Dr_willis: =(
[05:24] <Dr_willis> impressive. [renbolicious] 
[05:25] <[renbolicious] > no really
[05:25] <[renbolicious] > im not impressed
[05:25] <[renbolicious] > !mp3
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <Ash-Fox> Does anyone know of a way to get firefox to open anything with 'kfmclient exec <program/filename>', if I click open in the download box or something?
[05:25] <cpk2> it seemed like a good idea to have /home on its own partition
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I am.. ive not managed to crash it that way
[05:25] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  it is a good idea.. but thats just somthing ive noticed that messed up on me.
[05:26] <cpk2> Dr_willis: you still have /home seperate?
[05:26] <cpk2> I also moved /home after my install heh
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I got so many partitions its scary
[05:26] <Dr_willis> actually now a days i got so many hard drives its scary
[05:26] <Healot> a simple. question. should there be any problem if I create a mirror with two disks with different speed, i.e SATA and IDE UltraDMA-5?
[05:27] <cpk2> wow kde made a new .kde instantly
[05:27] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  thats to be expected. :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  you did close out kde/logout then rename that dir?
[05:28] <Zaire> how do I set this up
[05:28] <cpk2> Dr_willis: no, i just realized i might want to stop kdm first though he
[05:28] <cpk2> h
[05:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:29] <otaku-san> I'm having a prob with dependencies
[05:29] <cpk2> well i will be right back
[05:29] <Dr_willis> yea - im not sure how kde caches that dir...
[05:29] <mark__> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
[05:29] <mark__> I am gstreaming RUSH RADIO right now
[05:30] <otaku-san> a app I'm trying to apt install is found but it's saying I have unmet dependencies
[05:30] <otaku-san> and says try apt-get -f install
[05:30] <[renbolicious] > :x
[05:30] <mark__> adding myself to the audio group and then rebooting did the trick
[05:30] <otaku-san> doesn't that override the dependency?  And I don't want that right?
[05:31] <[renbolicious] > how do i get kde4?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> mark__,  check how many entries you got for root in that groups file
[05:31] <otaku-san> hahaha you don't want that
[05:31] <[renbolicious] > i dont?
[05:31] <otaku-san> kde4 is still in major beta mode
[05:31] <otaku-san> unless your the dangerous kind
[05:31] <mark__> you mean /etc/groups?
[05:31] <mark__> I will check
[05:31] <otaku-san> and like crashes
[05:32] <otaku-san> it's code named krash
[05:32] <[renbolicious] > nope
[05:32] <Dr_willis> cat /etc/group | grep root
[05:32] <[renbolicious] > im scared of crashes
[05:32] <otaku-san> but expect a clean version in a few months
[05:32] <[renbolicious] > they make me weep
[05:32] <Dr_willis> I have 1 entry.. if you got more then that... well :) ya got other things to fix as well
[05:32] <otaku-san> ya crashes suck
[05:33] <otaku-san> my friend (who is a windoze junkie) cracked up at the codename
[05:33] <mark__> no just one... thanks for the idea to check though
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > does anyone know what package i need to install in order for amarok to play my mp3s?
[05:33] <otaku-san> I pointed out vista
[05:33] <Dr_willis> mark__,  my USER has 12 entries in that file
[05:33] <otaku-san> .....oh wow haven't seen that one
[05:33] <otaku-san> in a while
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > ?
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > vista is nice
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > like vacation
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > makes me wanna get a cocktail
[05:34] <[renbolicious] > and lie around in office all day
[05:34] <cpk1> Dr_willis: everything is back now =)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> nice for the hardware makers :) and the mass upgrades...
[05:34] <cpk1> only thing i really miss so far is my wallpapers
[05:34] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : ok I've gotten mp3's to play on amarok...am doing that at the moment actually...let me remember how
[05:34] <mark__> I only see one root and a list of many unique system users, then the personal users I have added
[05:34] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  heh - i link the .kde wallpapers directory to /home/willis/wallpapers
[05:34] <mark__> all looks in order
[05:34] <[renbolicious] > !mp3
[05:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <Dr_willis>  the .kde directory layout is SOOO nested
[05:35] <otaku-san> [ren
[05:35] <zakame> hi all
[05:35] <otaku-san> ack
[05:35] <mark__> amorak was just added to me tonight when I used ubuntu add/remove to look for it
[05:35] <cpk1> looks like my kde apps forgot everything too
[05:35] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : ok try those...and you need to install some stuff
[05:35] <[renbolicious] > jupp
[05:35] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  yep. :P
[05:35] <[renbolicious] > tought so
[05:35] <mark__> That is all for now, but I wanted to say thanks
[05:36] <[renbolicious] > youre welcome
[05:36] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : not to hard tho'....just let me get it all in order
[05:37] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: you on?  You can help me here...my brains going...to much info going in all the time! ;)
[05:37] <digivore> !arp
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: ?
[05:39] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: ya
[05:39] <[renbolicious] > well
[05:39] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: heheh this poor soul needs to get mp3 playing on his/her box
[05:39] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : ok you need libxine-extracodecs
[05:40] <[renbolicious] > ah
[05:40] <otaku-san> Hawkwind:
[05:40] <otaku-san> ahhkk
[05:40] <[renbolicious] > apt-get install libxine?
[05:40] <otaku-san> you don't have the repo probably
[05:40] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : No, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:40] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : Have you enabled all of your repos yet ?
[05:40] <otaku-san> so it'll just say it can't find it
[05:40] <[renbolicious] > hmm
[05:40] <[renbolicious] > i just
[05:41] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: I pull out the tut
[05:41] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: the repo one
[05:41] <[renbolicious] > i have repos enabled
[05:41] <[renbolicious] > the standard ones
[05:41] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : You need multiverse and universe
[05:41] <[renbolicious] > ?
[05:41] <[renbolicious] > which is a reposite?
[05:41] <Hawkwind> !repos > [renbolicious] 
[05:42] <[renbolicious] > !repos
[05:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:42] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : Read what the bot just pm'd you with
[05:42] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : No need for that, it's in PM already.  Keeps the channel cleaner :)
[05:42] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : hehehe go ahead and put this up on your browser for safe keeping until you need it in a bit
[05:42] <otaku-san> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[05:43] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: sorry I had to drag you out of channel watching ;)  My mind was going there...I've been going blank far to much recently
[05:43] <[renbolicious] > :(
[05:43] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: need vitamins
[05:44] <otaku-san> sad face?
[05:46] <[renbolicious] > hmm
[05:46] <otaku-san> whats up
[05:46] <Slynderdale> Can Ubunto read *and* write to a Fat32 drive or just Fat?
[05:46] <[renbolicious] > cant you send me your sources.list?
[05:46] <omar2> Hi guys , pls how can I open a konqueror like a root
[05:46] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : Look at the URL he pasted you
[05:47] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : it's on the tutorial up there.....heres the link again...it's a really good list..I've used it a ton of times
[05:47] <Hawkwind> omar2: Why would you want to ?
[05:47] <otaku-san> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[05:47] <Hawkwind> omar2: It's not recommended that you run something like konqueror as root user
[05:47] <omar2> cos I am in a live CD and I can-t move some files in a folder
[05:47] <Hawkwind> omar2: So do it from the command line, much safer
[05:48] <omar2> but I need it they are so many ifiles and folders one by one is too much
[05:48] <otaku-san> omar2: it won't matter anyways
[05:48] <Hawkwind> omar2: You can move directories at a time
[05:48] <otaku-san> omar2: the live cd will just delete everything you did
[05:48] <omar2> no, I can-t I got an error
[05:48] <cpk1> argh how do i get wine back on the kmenu?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> it pays to learn the shell. :P
[05:49] <Dr_willis> i cheat and run mc  as root
[05:49] <Hawkwind> omar2: That means you are doing the command incorrectly
[05:49] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  you mean the apps you installed with wine?
[05:49] <Hawkwind> mc as root isn't so bad at all.  I'd recommend that long before konqueror as root
[05:49] <cpk1> Dr_willis: first, lets get wine back there =)
[05:49] <otaku-san> no I think he means wine itself...which you can't
[05:49] <hoboi> Hawkwind: omar2's error is from konqueror not the command line
[05:49] <omar2> Access denied to /home/ubuntu/New/.evolution/addressbook.
[05:50] <Hawkwind> omar2: Tell us exactly what you are trying to do
[05:50] <Hawkwind> omar2: So use sudo mv blah blah blah from the terminal
[05:50] <hoboi> Hawkwind: omar2 is trying to move files from  /dev/hda1  to  a windows shared drive via konq
[05:50] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  i cant recall seeing a 'wine' icon.. ive a menu of the windows apps ive installed with wine
[05:50] <cpk1> Dr_willis: yeah that menu
[05:50] <omar2> I am trying to move a lot of files and folders from a hda1 to a share windows folder
[05:50] <omar2> there you go
[05:50] <cpk1> i dont like running the apps from konsole
[05:51] <Hawkwind> omar2: Ah, I know nothing about Windows stuff.  I would assume you are using samba ?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  no idea if theres an easy way to get them back..I am guessing the wine executable edited a file in .kde that got merged with the menus
[05:51] <omar2> I just mounted
[05:51] <Hawkwind> omar2: Is the Windows partition NTFS ?
[05:51] <omar2> but inside the windows share folder everything is fine I can even move or delete from my konq
[05:52] <omar2> but inside de hda1 I can-t do those things
[05:52] <omar2> at all
[05:52] <Hawkwind> omar2: So open up a terminal and type sudo before your command
[05:52] <Hawkwind> omar2: Example:  sudo mv /path/to/directory /path/to/new/directory
[05:53] <omar2> I am not usisng the terminal to move , cos I don-t know how, that s why I am using konq
[05:53] <Hawkwind> omar2: Though I'd strongly suggest using sudo cp -a instead of sudo mv
[05:53] <hoboi> Hawkwind: lucky u know nothing about windows, i am trying to erase my memory of that nightmare
[05:53] <omar2> there you go
[05:53] <omar2> mv
[05:53] <Hawkwind> omar2: We are trying to teach you
[05:53] <Dr_willis> cpk1, --------->  willis@Audigy:~/.kde/share/applnk/Wine   is where they are stored it seems
[05:53] <omar2> I really appreciate it
[05:53] <Hawkwind> omar2: sudo cp -a /current/directory /new/directory
[05:53] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  so copy/restore that dir from your backups :)
[05:54] <omar2> cp for copy
[05:54] <omar2> ok
[05:54] <Hawkwind> omar2: Correct
[05:54] <omar2> lets try thanks
[05:56] <cpk1> Dr_willis: thanks =D
[05:57] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  handy how that works.. :P
[05:57] <Dr_willis> merfges the menu layouts
[05:57] <cpk1> cool it updated kmenu right away too
[05:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Luser Friendly!
[05:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <cpk1> its amazing how much simpler linux stuff is compared to windows
[06:01] <otaku-san> cpk1: it can be a bit of culture shock..but it can be...now compiling and dependencies
[06:01] <otaku-san> thats another story
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Bah! go edit that Regiestry!
[06:01] <cpk1> yeah dependencies cant be fun sometimes
[06:01] <cpk1> but ubuntu is amazing
[06:02] <omar2> Hawkwind: I have a treouble to find the folder, look one is in media:/hda1/home/omar/logs (from) the other one is media:/unionfs/home/ubuntu/New (to) , how will be the line
[06:02] <cpk1> i was able to pretty much get everything that worked on windows working on ubuntu in about 10 minutes
[06:02] <otaku-san> cpk1: All around Linux is much better...Iheheh at the moment I'm getting into dependency heck!!! So many
[06:02] <Dr_willis> when using source - it can be apain
[06:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> but thats the price you pay for flexability
[06:03] <otaku-san> ......ahhhhgggg I'm just going to -f install this thing
[06:04] <Dr_willis> what thing?
[06:04] <otaku-san> it's complaining about a PNG library
[06:04] <dhq> Dr_willis: how do i configure my lm-sensors
[06:04] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: oh I found a sweet program I really need...but it's complaining
[06:04] <Dr_willis> dhq,  normally theres a sensors-detect or sensors-config you run
[06:05] <Dr_willis> otaku-san,  and the packates for it aint working?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> otaku-san,  or using source?
[06:05] <dhq> Dr_willis: i run they say no sensors detedcte d
[06:05] <otaku-san> dhq: some sensors are just not up to snuff for it....like mine sadly
[06:06] <dhq> otaku-san: but mine is a laptopo
[06:06] <dhq> otaku-san: mine temp sensors start with 55 degree cel
[06:06] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: ok so I found it's package on apt-get...I tried it and it gave me an error of needing a dependency....so I went and found the package on debian....but it's still complaining
[06:07] <otaku-san> dhq: you mean they are stuck on that temp?  Or what?
[06:07] <dhq> !lm-sensors
[06:07] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[06:08] <dhq> otaku-san: when i start my pc it starts at 55 degreecel and it keeps increasing
[06:08] <omar2> I did it , thanks a lot
[06:08] <omar2> really
[06:08] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: it gave me a choice to -f install it...so I'm going to try that...and try to get the png library to work later....tho' I use png all the time
[06:09] <sakitel> join #ubuntu-es
[06:09] <otaku-san> dhq: 55cel.......thats....great I've forgotten the formula....anyone know the degrees formula
[06:09] <cpk1> what i really want is the play stop skip song prev song buttons on my keyboard to work =P
[06:10] <otaku-san> dhq: that sounds a but high tho....
[06:10] <cpk1> i sure dont know, but google knows what 55 celsius is in fareinheit
[06:10] <dhq> otaku-san: yes its too high even when my laptop is off for ages
[06:10] <Dr_willis> 55C is roughly 1/2 the boiling point of water (a littel over) :)
[06:10] <dhq> cpk1: i can choose to farienheit
[06:11] <otaku-san> 30 cel is about 70.... in farenheit...so ya 50 is like 100-20sh
[06:11] <Dr_willis> so thats warm
[06:11] <dhq> Dr_willis: so i have to configure my lm-sensors properly
[06:11] <otaku-san> hehehe I'm kinda right
[06:11] <Dr_willis> dhq,  no idea.:P
[06:11] <Dr_willis> it may be giveing #'s but are they the right #'s
[06:11] <otaku-san> dhq: theres a tutorial out there on this...pretty big one if I remember correctly
[06:11] <otaku-san> google it
[06:12] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:12] <dhq> otaku-san: i did it but when i run lm-sensors i  so many failed and when i run  sensors it shows no sensors detected
[06:12] <Zaire> I need to know how I may have to config mysql in order to install phpbb2
[06:13] <Slynderdale> try google calculator: 30 celcius in fareheight
[06:13] <Slynderdale> 30 degrees Celsius = 86 degrees Fahrenheit
[06:14] <Slynderdale> My spelling sucks tonight :/
[06:14] <otaku-san> ohhhh I was close
[06:14] <otaku-san> I said 70
[06:14] <Zaire> yeps 30 celcius is 86 F according to my proc temp monitor
[06:14] <InteliWasp> what tools to i need to run to track a memory leak wile running a program?
[06:15] <otaku-san> don't use C++ hehehe ;) sorry...I can't help you...just being annoying
[06:15] <dhq> otaku-san: i get 120.2 f
[06:16] <otaku-san> thats ok for start up
[06:17] <otaku-san> my sensors on my BIOS show about 114 when I start er up and let it run a bit
[06:17] <Slynderdale> 50 degrees Celsius = 122 degrees Fahrenheit
[06:17] <Zaire> 30 is 86 my gigabyte easytune does not lie
[06:17] <otaku-san> who I was close again....man I feel lucky tonight
[06:17] <otaku-san> whoa*
[06:17] <InteliWasp> BTW for proccesors, they shuld run no hotter than 80c
[06:17] <Slynderdale> otaku-san: Try the lottery xD
[06:18] <Zaire> ummm 75 actually
[06:18] <otaku-san> InteliWasp: ya....but he's getting super hot at cold start up
[06:18] <Slynderdale> 75 = 167f
[06:18] <InteliWasp> crap i hate it when i mess that number up..
[06:18] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: hehehe I should!
[06:18] <soulrider> oh noes
[06:18] <Zaire> mine is running a bit hotter cause Im running kubuntu in vmware but my normal temp is 16 celcius
[06:18] <soulrider> my KDE config is back to defaul
[06:18] <soulrider> like if i had installed KDE
[06:19] <soulrider> not the kubuntu default
[06:19] <InteliWasp> i wonder the the TIM needs replaving...
[06:19] <soulrider> how can i change it to what comes by default in kubuntu ?
[06:19] <InteliWasp> TIM= Thermal Interface Matirial
[06:19] <otaku-san> hehehe I call it paste
[06:19] <otaku-san> silva paste
[06:20] <fdoving> soulrider: you can try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings'
[06:20] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[06:21] <soulrider> but thats just for KDE right ?
[06:21] <Slynderdale> Basicly what I did, was use a Ubuntu Live CD to install Ubuntu+Gnome, then used the terminal to apt-get install Kubuntu, basicly giving me the choise of Ubuntu+Gnome, or using KDE(Kbunutu), Now if I choose Gnome, it uses the normal look and feel, but whule using KDE, it switches to Kubuntu
[06:21] <soulrider> it wont screw any other apps up right ?
[06:21] <Zaire> apt-get is universal between gnome and kde
[06:22] <cpk1> Slynderdale: i dont get your question?
[06:22] <dinosaur-rus> as I understood from screenshots, live CDs can be used for regular installation to HDD with ability to work as it installs, right?
[06:23] <soulrider> dinosaur-rus: correct
[06:23] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: it's not suggested tho'....but you can
[06:23] <dinosaur-rus> otaku-san: why?
[06:25] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: because you are basically installing an OS onto your hardrive...it's a bit delicate...so doing background stuff whilst it's installing is kinda foolish
[06:25] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: you can tho'  that's what those people taking the screenshots are doing
[06:26] <Slynderdale> Hmm, a question, in Ubuntu, can it read *and* write to a FAT32 drive or just FAT?
[06:26] <dinosaur-rus> otaku-san: yeah, that's true. but theoretically, I can test some vital features before installing
[06:26] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: ok I think it can both read and write to Fat
[06:27] <otaku-san> and FAT32
[06:27] <otaku-san> it's NTFS that can only read...unless you install ext2 (a cool program) on the windows partition
[06:27] <Slynderdale> I know NTFS support is lacking, but I was wondering if the same goes for FAT32, I have a 300 Gig FAT32 drive and a 80 gig NTFS drive which I partitioned off for Windows and Linux
[06:27] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: not just theoretically....you can and is really suggested
[06:28] <InteliWasp> with ext2, how save is it to write?
[06:28] <Slynderdale> ext2?
[06:28] <InteliWasp> safe i mean
[06:28] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: test out everything on the live cd...then reboot(it won't save anything you do on the live cd...and install k-ubuntu
[06:29] <dinosaur-rus> otaku-san: why should I reboot before installling?
[06:30] <otaku-san> Slyderdale, InteliWasp : with ext2 you don't need a space taking FAT32 partition...you can just transfer files over and read and write like its another drive on windows
[06:30] <soulrider> does anyone know where i can get the dapper color scheme ?
[06:30] <soulrider> i dont like the edgy one
[06:31] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: because...there once was a bug on kubuntu that if you messed with the apps on the live cd then tried to install the OS it would crash
[06:31] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: I think they've squashed this bug...but to be on the safe side just reboot
[06:32] <otaku-san> it was a Dapper bug when it was still new...
[06:32] <otaku-san> soulrider: try kde-looks.org
[06:33] <soulrider> i did
[06:33] <Slynderdale> otaku-san: Where can I find info on the program?
[06:34] <qch> does anyone of any good tools for monitoring cpu frequency under kde?
[06:34] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: I was just finding that....hold on a tick...I'll get it
[06:34] <soulrider> otaku-san: is there any wya i can export it froma  amchine running dapper ?
[06:35] <otaku-san> soulrider: thats a good question...and something to try....probably....I think there is something like that
[06:36] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: it was something I stumbled on when I first found Linux oh so long ago....
[06:38] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: here it is...and yes it's stable...I have been using it alot...and it hasn't done anything wrong...I get picture files (for painting on PS) from my Linux partition and open them on windows all the time...and visaversa
[06:38] <otaku-san> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:38] <otaku-san> there it is ^^^^^
[06:38] <Slynderdale> Thank you :)
[06:39] <Timmy|GDS> what directory are the buntu dapper sources lists? I need to change dapper to edgy for a dist upgrade
[06:39] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: no problem...
[06:40] <otaku-san> Timmy|GDS: wow you can upgrade?  I thought it was still unstable
[06:40] <otaku-san> it came out with a RC?
[06:40] <timthelion> is there an application for optimizing startup times for kubuntu? they have become painfully slow, 5 minutes on a p4 3.0gz 2 gig ram
[06:40] <timthelion> I am on a fully up to date dapper
[06:40] <Timmy|GDS> christ! im on a p4 2.66 768dram and its not that bad
[06:41] <timthelion> it used to be like 15 secconds
[06:41] <Timmy|GDS> i think i have an ibm article for you...
[06:41] <cpk1> anyone know if kde-look has a huge zip of all their wallpapers and whatnot?
[06:41] <Timmy|GDS> (might help)
[06:41] <Timmy|GDS> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html
[06:42] <Timmy|GDS> thats a bit more core, but it might help
[06:42] <otaku-san> cpk1: um....you mean so you can get it all?
[06:42] <otaku-san> cpk1: that would be a bit hard....
[06:42] <cpk1> otaku-san: that would be preferable =D
[06:43] <otaku-san> cpk1: hehe it's not like windows!!!!
[06:43] <Timmy|GDS> lol
[06:43] <Timmy|GDS> yeah
[06:43] <Timmy|GDS> tar.gz
[06:43] <Timmy|GDS> ...
[06:44] <Timmy|GDS> Google is your best bet
[06:44] <otaku-san> cpk1: all of the window decos, wallpapers, color schemes are created by just anyone....and it's constantly changing
[06:44] <otaku-san> no use kde-looks.org
[06:44] <Timmy|GDS> yeah
[06:44] <timthelion> is it possible to have dpkg list all installed applications and libraries?
[06:44] <otaku-san> and go to deviantart.com for wallpapers
[06:44] <cpk1> i would use kget with kde-look.org but i cant seem to figure it out
[06:44] <otaku-san> cpk1: so it would be impossible to just tar it all
[06:45] <otaku-san> .....kget....kde-looks.org o.0
[06:45] <otaku-san> can you do that?
[06:45] <cpk1> not sure
[06:46] <cpk1> but you should be able to!
[06:46] <cpk1> that and the get new wallpapers gui doesnt seem to like me very much
[06:46] <otaku-san> the things on KDE that change the look normally are connected to kde-looks.org so it's very easy to change....
[06:47] <otaku-san> hey would reinstalling kdelibs4 be a good idea.....n00b question
[06:51] <otaku-san> ok I'm off....when I look at compiling and go....do I have to....I need to sleep
[06:51] <otaku-san> peace
[06:55] <cpk1> ooooooooo boy
[06:55] <cpk1> looks like kstuff.org might have been what i was looking for
[06:57] <cpk1> bah nevermind, hasnt been updated in over a year
[07:00] <igi> hi there
[07:01] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[07:01] <igi> I got a rpoblem
[07:01] <igi> my p2p under linux is much slower than under win
[07:02] <igi> also, DL from rapidshare and megaupload larger than few 100KB always breaks
[07:03] <igi> any suggestions?
[07:03] <igi> maybe default package size and stuff like that
[07:03] <igi> I dunno where to set it in linux
[07:04] <zeus_> please i need some help here whit the grub
[07:05] <zeus_> title         Windows vista
[07:05] <zeus_> root          ()
[07:05] <zeus_> makeactive
[07:05] <zeus_> chainloader   +1
[07:05] <arunkale> hey, people.. I wanted to try out Gnome desktop.. what major changes will take place? Can I use the same software that I use now?
[07:05] <zeus_> i have a sata disk but i dony know what to put in the menu.list
[07:05] <zeus_> here is my fstab file
[07:06] <zeus_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hda6       /media/hda6     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/sda5       /media/sda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:06] <zeus_> please HELPP
[07:08] <dinosaur-rus> arunkale: I guess your current software should work
[07:08] <arunkale> thanks
[07:13] <dinosaur-rus> arunkale: at least you always can return everything to its current state ;)
[07:14] <Hawkwind> zeus_: Please don't paste to the channel like that.  Use a pastebin service
[07:17] <qch> does anyone know of a good app to monitor cpu frequency on kde?
[07:18] <unix_lappy> qch: cpufreq-utils
[07:19] <unix_lappy> or use gkrellm's cpufreq monitor or use conky / torsmo
[07:19] <qch> ah, thanks unix_lappy
[07:19] <unix_lappy> kde comes with its own little applet, ASSUMING your cpu supports dynamic and has monitoring capabilities.
[07:19] <qch> hmm, where?
[07:19] <qch> i have a laptop and it does indeed support dynamic freq. scaling
[07:21] <qch> KLaptop allows me to throttle the cpu frequency but i can't actually see what speed it's running at...any clues?
[07:28] <dinosaur-rus> what gcc version does Edgy use by default?
[07:29] <qch> I think 4.1.1 ?
[07:30] <dinosaur-rus> thx
[07:39] <Slynderdale> What version is the Ubuntu Linux kernal?
[07:42] <Healot> uname -r for your current kernel, check the repos for updated version
[07:47] <Kream> does anyone here have colours working in vim ?
[08:15] <High|ander> how lovely, my palm is syncing with kpilot
[08:15] <High|ander> :)
[08:26] <raveesh> hi!
[08:26] <raveesh> i am new to kubuntu, can anyone help me out
[08:31] <june> how do i manage user permissions?
[08:31] <june> as far as allowing other users to sudo
[08:38] <kraut> moin
[08:40] <KDEfanboy> june: in Konqueror, type in location bar: "man:sudoers" to read about sudoers file. it should always be modified with 'visudo' command, "man:visudo" to read about that command
[09:17] <daurnimator> hi all
[09:17] <daurnimator> !sound
[09:17] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:21] <cpk1> argh iwconfig gives me a seg fault?!?!
[09:26] <daurnimator> ok
[09:26] <daurnimator> my sound isn't working
[09:27] <daurnimator> i need help
[09:27] <daurnimator> that help from ubotu didn't help
[09:27] <weas3l> wow, how odd is that...
[09:27] <dek> Krusader does not save configuration on exit (even though the option is enabled). It always starts in the same dir. Any idea?
[09:27] <weas3l> neither is mine.
[09:27] <weas3l> !sound
[09:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:31] <exceswater> hello people
[09:34] <yigal> hi - who can help me with installing ICQ on Ubuntu?
[09:35] <tejinder> anyone knows, why i get this error when i do glxinfo? Re: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"?
[09:35] <tejinder> i am using nvdia-glx-legacy driver
[09:35] <flaccid> google show anything?
[09:35] <tejinder> flaccid: asking me?
[09:36] <flaccid> yes
[09:37] <tejinder> did'nt find anything useful
[09:37] <KEo> join #sieci
[09:37] <flaccid> k
[09:37] <tejinder> i commented out the dri section too
[09:37] <tejinder> do i need to install restricred kernel modules, to make it work properly?
[09:37] <tejinder> I am on edgy btw
[09:37] <MDCore> hey all.. can anyone recommend a gui scp client ?
[09:38] <Healot> i am on the edge of a cliff btw
[09:52] <weas3l> what happens if $ sudo modprobe snd_es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 dma1=1 dma2=5 irq=5 fm_port=0x388 returns an error? o_O
[09:52] <NthDegree> wtf lol
[09:53] <NthDegree> you surely mean sudo modprobe snd_es18xx right?
[09:53] <weas3l> ... i'm just goin thru the motions to get my sound workin from one of the links ubotu gave me.
[09:53] <NthDegree> or weas3l if you insist on all those settings give sudo modprobe
[09:53] <weas3l> thats copied right from the link
[09:53] <NthDegree> lol
[09:54] <NthDegree> try this then
[09:54] <weas3l> so... i can just go $ sudo modprobe snd_es18xx?
[09:54] <NthDegree> yes
[09:54] <NthDegree> I believe that thing there is wrong: it should of been - sudo modprobe 'snd_es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 dma1=1 dma2=5 irq=5 fm_port=0x388' at the very least
[09:55] <weas3l> now, thats just the one in the example, its probably not going to fit my chipset...
[09:55] <NthDegree> then try this:
[09:55] <weas3l> where would i put *that* (or the modulename?)
[09:55] <NthDegree> lspci
[09:55] <Healot> it's an isa card
[09:56] <Healot> is it?
[09:56] <weas3l> on a laptop?
[09:56] <weas3l> i see theres a multimedia audio controller....
[09:56] <NthDegree> Healot: on a modern system would anyone have an ISA sound card
[09:56] <flaccid> i do
[09:56] <Healot> he could :)
[09:57] <NthDegree> hehe
[09:57] <NthDegree> yeah but that example is really wrong
[09:57] <flaccid> nothing wrong with legacy hardware if it does the job
[09:57] <NthDegree> is if it will be unsupported by kernel 2.7 :|
[09:59] <NthDegree> hmmm weas3l pastebin the output of lspci for us would ya?
[09:59] <weas3l> theres no flood restrictions here?
[09:59] <NthDegree> I said pastebin not paste lol
[09:59] <NthDegree> ubuntu.pastebin.nl <----- go there
[10:00] <weas3l> can't find it.
[10:00] <NthDegree> oops 1 sec
[10:01] <NthDegree> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:01] <NthDegree> then you can paste the info in there and we can try to help ;-)
[10:02] <weas3l> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25479/ BAM!
[10:03] <NthDegree> 1 sec
[10:03] <NthDegree> i'll find out what you really need to modprobe
[10:03] <weas3l> *snigger*
[10:05] <weas3l> would that be soundcore?
[10:05] <weas3l> or am i way off?
[10:05] <NthDegree> 1 sec
[10:05] <NthDegree> i think it could be sudo modprobe via82cxxx_audio
[10:06] <weas3l> fatal, module not found
[10:06] <NthDegree> sudo modprobe via82cxxx maybe
[10:06] <Healot> via module should be in
[10:08] <NthDegree> well lets see what putting just via82cxxx does :-)
[10:08] <weas3l> didn't return any error. :D
[10:09] <NthDegree> right now you want I think sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart or sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[10:10] <weas3l> alsa-utils?
[10:10] <weas3l> neiter of those commands are found :S
[10:10] <NthDegree> yeah :$
[10:10] <weas3l> k
[10:11] <weas3l> still no sound :S
[10:11] <NthDegree> run alsamixer
[10:11] <weas3l> should i do restart then the card?
[10:12] <NthDegree> you might need to turn the volume up lol
[10:12] <weas3l> volume is in the red on all sliders
[10:12] <NthDegree> and unmuted
[10:12] <NthDegree> ?
[10:12] <weas3l> cept the mic and cd.
[10:12] <weas3l> yup
[10:12] <NthDegree> tried running a sound test?
[10:12] <weas3l> neg
[10:13] <weas3l> wait, muting the external speaker makes it work o_O
[10:13] <NthDegree> lmao
[10:13] <weas3l> external amp i mean...
[10:13] <NthDegree> that's an on/off switch i suspect
[10:14] <weas3l> i suppose that makes sense...
[10:14] <cpk2> !sudo
[10:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:14] <NthDegree> now one last thing
[10:14] <weas3l> where do i send the cookies?
[10:15] <NthDegree> lol
[10:15] <weas3l> can you possibly shed some light as well on a wireless gateway issue i'm having with my school...
[10:16] <flaccid> how does ubuntu know the ip address of the gateway/router? i can't see anything in resolv.conf is it a dif file?
[10:16] <NthDegree> wireless isn't my thing
[10:16] <NthDegree> flaccid: it knows it via dhcp normally
[10:16] <flaccid> where is that stored but?
[10:16] <weas3l> well, its more a 'the schools tech doesn't know linux, and setting the gateway in windows is making every connection gateway.xxx.xxx:8080
[10:16] <NthDegree> flaccid: no config
[10:17] <flaccid> no config?
[10:17] <flaccid> how does the system know? command to verify?
[10:17] <NthDegree> flaccid:  dhcp works by your router acting as a server and dhcp connecting to it and receiving the data via a dhcp client
[10:17] <cpk2> so somehow sudo stopped working and forced me to do a hard reboot =\
[10:18] <flaccid> i know that
[10:18] <flaccid> i run dhcpd at home here
[10:18] <flaccid> i am asking a command to get the router ip
[10:19] <NthDegree> sudo ifup eth0
[10:19] <NthDegree> try that
[10:19] <flaccid> ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[10:19] <NthDegree> damn I can't remember the command for it
[10:20] <NthDegree> there's one that shows statistics and gateway and all that
[10:20] <flaccid> how to set gateway manual then?
[10:21] <NthDegree> in the net file, gimme a sec and i'll get the location of it
[10:21] <mabreaux> I have a alsa sound system and I can't turn the volume up beyound 30. which is very soft.  any one know how to turn it up
[10:21] <flaccid> mabreaux: try kmix
[10:21] <NthDegree>   /etc/network/interfaces @ flaccid
[10:22] <flaccid> oh yeah of course
[10:22] <mabreaux> I did, that is how I got to 30
[10:22] <NthDegree> mabreaux: try alsamixer
[10:24] <cpk2> resolv.conf
[10:24] <mabreaux> on the alsamixer the master and pcm are at the top.
[10:24] <cpk2> oh wait no thats dns oops
[10:24] <NthDegree> cpk2: I already told him lol
[10:24] <flaccid> its at the top then
[10:24] <mabreaux> but volume is still at 30
[10:24] <flaccid> yeah i think some distros use resolv.conf for gateway
[10:24] <mabreaux> and barely audible
[10:25] <NthDegree> turn up the speakers then and turn up ALL the volume bars on alsamixer
[10:25] <flaccid> you do understand that this is a pre-amp only?
[10:25] <mabreaux> speakers are built into the laptop
[10:25] <buz> what should i use these days automatix or easyubuntu?
[10:25] <flaccid> unless its an old soundcard with a built-in amplifier
[10:26] <cpk2> flaccid: it will be easier if you just use the gui to set the gateway
[10:26] <NthDegree> buz: none, they cause more issues than they solve
[10:26] <flaccid> cpk2: you don't say
[10:26] <mabreaux> brand new machine.
[10:26] <buz> i could do it by hand
[10:26] <buz> but i'm lazy
[10:26] <flaccid> mabreaux: is pcm turned all the way up
[10:26] <mabreaux> it has the high definition sound system
[10:26] <NthDegree> mabreaux: turn up the built in laptop speakers then
[10:26] <mabreaux> yes it is
[10:26] <mabreaux> they are
[10:27] <NthDegree> mabreaux: turn ALL the bits on alsamixer up
[10:27] <cpk2> flaccid: sometimes the gui can actually help
[10:27] <NthDegree> because PCM means little if "{name of soundcard model here} playback" isn't turned up too
[10:27] <flaccid> cpk2: i'm not a newbie
[10:28] <buz> !easyubuntu
[10:28] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:28] <buz> !automatix
[10:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:28] <buz> thats not very useful
[10:28] <cpk2> i dont get what being a noobie has to do with any of what i was talking about but ok
[10:28] <mabreaux> sound card says generic.....  how do I load the proper driver or what ever
[10:29] <NthDegree> buz, automatix and easyubuntu can mess up a lot of things
[10:29] <NthDegree> so they aren't officially supported
[10:30] <buz> mhh RestrictedFormats must have been redone by a crazy man
[10:30] <mabreaux> how can I identify what type sound card is in here
[10:30] <buz> now i have to type everything myself?
[10:30] <NthDegree> :|
[10:30] <NthDegree> !restrictedformats
[10:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:30] <buz> yeah i know the page
[10:30] <NthDegree> what is crazy about it?
[10:31] <cpk2> libxine-extracodecs will get most everything
[10:31] <buz> before there was nice lines which one could past
[10:31] <NthDegree> I simply apt-get install audacity and convert my MP3s to OGG
[10:31] <buz> now i need to paste 10s of lines
[10:31] <NthDegree> ROFL
[10:31] <buz> told oyu i'm lazy sob
[10:31] <NthDegree> buz, one line is all you really need
[10:32] <NthDegree> then convert all your MP3s and w/e to OGG
[10:32] <buz> thats just stupid
[10:32] <cpk2> buz: what are you trying to play?
[10:32] <NthDegree> how is it buz?
[10:32] <buz> uhm like everything? i'll need w32codecs, too
[10:32] <mabreaux> good night
[10:32] <mabreaux> all
[10:32] <NthDegree> night mabreaux
[10:32] <buz> converting lossy to lossy is a bad thing to do TM
[10:33] <cpk2> i see 5 packages that you need for kubuntu to get "everything" playing
[10:33] <cpk2> thats including w32
[10:33] <buz> yeah
[10:33] <cpk2> so technically that is 3 commands
[10:33] <buz> in the past that was ONE line ;)
[10:34] <NthDegree> buz, well stop downloading off P2P then :p and you won't need all those lines
[10:34] <buz> i dont use p2p
[10:34] <cpk2> its 3 lines!
[10:34] <NthDegree> then why do you need codecs for MP3, AVI, MPEG etc.?
[10:35] <flaccid> where are static routes kept?
[10:35] <buz> because even legit sites use those?
[10:35] <flaccid> why stop d/l off p2p
[10:35] <flaccid> it rox
[10:35] <cpk2> i still dont get it all you need to do is 3 lines
[10:35] <NthDegree> or 1 line
[10:36] <NthDegree> gimme a sec
[10:36] <cpk2> apt-get install everything but w32
[10:36] <cpk2> wget w32
[10:36] <buz> yeah
[10:36] <cpk2> dpkg w32
[10:36] <buz> but you need to craft that line
[10:36] <cpk2> and thats it
[10:36] <buz> anyway, i'm done ;)
[10:36] <cpk2> it tab completes
[10:36] <buz> apt does tab completion?
[10:36] <cpk2> yes
[10:36] <NthDegree> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs  w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib  libarts1-xine  libakode2-mpeg
[10:36] <buz> didnt know THAT ;)
[10:36] <NthDegree> OMG SOOOO EASY
[10:37] <cpk2> lol NthDegree
[10:37] <NthDegree> I did it in 1 line
[10:37] <buz> yeah but hows restrictedformats newb friendly if it cant display the commands itself?
[10:37] <NthDegree> because we don't expect people to sit around like ignorant fools not learning
[10:37] <cpk2> it does
[10:37] <NthDegree> and you don't need a terminal to do it
[10:37] <cpk2> scroll down and READ
[10:38] <cpk2> oh i guess it doesnt give you something to copy paste
[10:38] <buz> see, in the past it DID
[10:38] <NthDegree> LMFAO
[10:38] <cpk2> although you could still copy paste all the package names from the top and it would be the same
[10:38] <NthDegree> 1 second
[10:39] <cpk2> lol
[10:40] <buz> mhh is css integrated into that libxine?
[10:41] <NthDegree> buz: where do you live? what country?
[10:41] <buz> Switzerland, CSS is perfeclty legal here
[10:41] <NthDegree> then apt-get install libdvdcss I think it is
[10:41] <buz> yeah probably
[10:41] <buz> could be libdvdcss2
[10:42] <buz> or i'll just use vlc ;)
[10:42] <buz> which i like more than kaffeine anyhow
[10:43] <NthDegree> CSS is actually legal all over the world, just decrypting it with DeCSS isn't :p
[10:44] <buz> actually, i'm not entirely sure about that
[10:44] <buz> some jurisdictions are decidedly anti copy protection
[10:44] <buz> in danmark you cant sell non region free dvd players for one
[10:47] <NthDegree> lol
[10:47] <NthDegree> I like to record music off the TV and OGGify it
[10:47] <NthDegree> 100% legal
[10:47] <NthDegree> and free as in cash and freedom
[10:47] <daurnimator> uh
[10:47] <daurnimator> thats not legal
[10:48] <NthDegree> it is actually
[10:48] <NthDegree> since I watched it at home
[10:48] <daurnimator> well, maybe where you live
[10:48] <NthDegree> and paid my TV License and Sky subscription
[10:48] <buz> and even if it was illegal, there's NFW they could catch you
[10:48] <daurnimator> but, here, its illegal to record anything - just its never been enforced
[10:48] <daurnimator> HERE, its illegel to rip a cd
[10:49] <cpk2> where is "HERE"?
[10:49] <daurnimator> uh, at this minute, victoria, australia
[10:50] <daurnimator> as an extra note: if there is region protection that locks out our region, you are allowed to copy/hack all you want
[10:51] <buz> or you fix it once by hacking your dvdrom, really
[10:51] <lupine_85> UK
[10:51] <Goliath23> hi, could anyone please try and reach http://plasma.kde.org from your end?
[10:51] <buz> Goliath23: doesnt seem to respond
[10:52] <Goliath23> bugger
[10:59] <D4rkly> does anyone know how i can share my pc internet connection with my mobile via bluetooth ? the motorola desktop suite for windows does it
[11:00] <couquinoux> fr
[11:00] <kay> hello i have a question how can i find the packages where a special lib data file is? (for example libc6 which packages)
[11:01] <couquinoux> franais
[11:01] <cpk2> D4rkly: there should be a way, not sure exactly how bluetooth works but on your kubuntu box ( i assume thats the pc with the net) the simplest way would be to use MASQUEARADE
[11:01] <cpk2> possible spelling error there =P
[11:01] <KDEfanboy> !french
[11:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:02] <KDEfanboy> kay: i think you are wanting to search by filename(?) you can do that here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:02] <D4rkly> ok cool :)
[11:02] <kay> KDEfanboy: thx!
[11:02] <KDEfanboy> :)
[11:03] <cpk2> D4rkly: thats an iptables command
[11:03] <D4rkly> yep :)
[11:03] <D4rkly> how can i find out my mobile lan ip ? im guessing i need to setup a PAN between pc and mob (pesonal area network)
[11:03] <cpk2> D4rkly: i dont know the exact syntax but it will be something like iptables -t nat -a something -j MASQUERADE i might be completely off though
[11:04] <addie> lo
[11:04] <cpk2> D4rkly: i think using ad-hoc would be easiest
[11:05] <cpk2> and just give the pc wlan0 something like 192.168.2.1 and the mobile 192.168.2.2
[11:05] <D4rkly> i need to use bluetooth cause my phone doesnt have wifi
[11:06] <cpk2> does bluetooth support ad-hoc? i dont know anything about bluetooth
[11:06] <cpk2> you could set up a dhcp server on the pc
[11:07] <D4rkly> yep ill have a look into it :)
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i have an odd error. I want to edit my system settings and I opened that up in System Settings
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> but I'm getting a "the module Display can not be edited" error
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> so I can't change any of my settings
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> they aren't even displayed
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm going to post my xorg.conf is a second
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25483/
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm running XGL/Compiz as well but I don't think thats the problem
[11:25] <pascalFR> Admiral_Chicago:  does kcontrol : devices > monitor and display  work ?
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> pascalFR, kcontrol?
[11:28] <main2> im using 'desktop sharing' on my server, but a lot of times after the client connects - it dies quickly (some times after 20sec, sometimes after 3sec)
[11:28] <pascalFR> Admiral_Chicago: you're on kde ?
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[11:28] <main2> is there anything i can test too see what is broken?
[11:28] <pascalFR> then alt-F2  kcontrol
[11:29] <pascalFR> and go to devices > monitor and display
[11:29] <jpiccolo> anyone have a good resource for small form factor cases
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't see devices...
[11:30] <pascalFR> under internet ?
[11:30] <pascalFR> peripherals ?
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> ah peripherals
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> monitor does not exist
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> display doesn't work
[11:32] <pascalFR> when u click on display  what happens on the right panel ?
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> it goes back to the original screen
[11:33] <pascalFR> ok you are on edgy ?
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> pascalFR, yea i should probably ask i #ubuntu+1 no?
[11:34] <pascalFR> so it is a bug i just opened on launchpad bug #63517      not your fault or xorgs faults   it is a kdebase bug
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, ill check out LP and back you up on it
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> direct link?
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> nvm
[11:37] <pascalFR> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/63517
[11:38] <pascalFR> ok thanks
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> might want to add the keyword "edgy"
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> ah it might be like that already
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> well its bed time forme
[11:41] <pascalFR> nite Admiral_Chicago
[11:49] <Hjuringen_> Hi, I am wondering how usb automounting is working, and how I can set the automount to set exec on mounting an usb-stick so that I can run programs on this stick.
[11:50] <main2> the program 'krfb' crashes the whole time
[11:50] <main2> getting sick of it
[11:51] <main2> every time i remote desktop to my server, the process on the server crashes
[11:51] <main2> any ideas? :(
[11:52] <Hjuringen_> Reason for asking: I want to run Damn Small Linux (dsl-embedded) from the stick.
[11:52] <D4rkly> i need to use the following command but im unsure as to what the /24 is for ? also is the ip the localhost or the remote ?
[11:52] <D4rkly> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 169.254.1.68/24 -j MASQUERADE
[11:53] <cpk2> dont think you need the /24 and i think you use localhost, might want to ask in #iptables where people know what they are talking about though =P
[11:54] <cpk2> D4rkly: i found you need to be slightly patient in #iptables though =)
[11:55] <D4rkly> ok :)
[12:00] <High|ander> hm
[12:00] <High|ander> now kpilot removes the entrys on my palm !
[12:00] <High|ander> wtf?
[12:03] <jonathan__> hii
[12:13] <berkes> good morning.
[12:13] <gCb> morning
[12:13] <berkes> I am looking for some help with SUID (I think).
[12:14] <berkes> i have this little script that tests for my home wifi, if available it runs iwconfig and dhclient to connect to my home wifi,
[12:15] <Linux_Galore> just reading this test benchmark comparing kde and gnome memory usage, what is really suprising is in some cases running gnome apps in kde uses less ram
[12:15] <berkes> but I want to run that w/o typing in the su pw. The script, however, should not be editable by anyone but root.
[12:15] <Linux_Galore> http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/
[12:31] <HabaKKuk> hey ppl
[12:33] <kulbir> how to do i disable sudo password?
[12:34] <HabaKKuk> better not to disable
[12:34] <flaccid> i don't think you can
[12:34] <HabaKKuk> he can set pass blank
[12:34] <kulbir> HabaKKuk: why?
[12:34] <HabaKKuk> imho
[12:34] <raveesh> Can anyone help me in installing firefox
[12:35] <kulbir> HabaKKuk: k thanks
[12:35] <HabaKKuk> lol np
[12:35] <HabaKKuk> ;] 
[12:35] <HabaKKuk> hey, do you ppl know any good soft for mixing music ?
[12:35] <kulbir> HabaKKuk: why lol ?
[12:36] <HabaKKuk> ah dont worry
[12:36] <raveesh> Haba: Audicity
[12:36] <HabaKKuk> raveesh: is it avail in repos ?
[12:36] <HabaKKuk> main repos
[12:36] <HabaKKuk> anyway will try
[12:37] <HabaKKuk> ')
[12:37] <raveesh> can u help me with my FF  install
[12:37] <kulbir> FF?
[12:37] <raveesh> firefox
[12:37] <HabaKKuk> raveesh: wheres the problem /
[12:37] <HabaKKuk> ?
[12:38] <raveesh> i dont know how to instal it on kubuntu
[12:38] <HabaKKuk> sudo apt-get install ff     ?
[12:38] <raveesh> not working
[12:38] <HabaKKuk> ell
[12:38] <kulbir> raveesh: why?
[12:38] <HabaKKuk> hm
[12:38] <raveesh> gives an error
[12:38] <HabaKKuk> which error ?
[12:38] <raveesh> just a min
[12:39] <raveesh> some directory could not be locked
[12:40] <HabaKKuk> hm..
[12:40] <kulbir> raveesh: :-?
[12:40] <raveesh> ya
[12:40] <HabaKKuk> hae you got all repos updated ?
[12:40] <raveesh> its updating
[12:40] <HabaKKuk> !repositories
[12:40] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:40] <raveesh> right now
[12:40] <HabaKKuk> just update it thn try again
[12:41] <HabaKKuk> if it wont work still go ot ubuntu forum, i cannot help you as im quite newbie there
[12:41] <raveesh> ok
[12:41] <raveesh> so am i
[12:41] <raveesh> i just installed kubuntu this morning
[12:42] <HabaKKuk> dont worry all will be ok ;)
[12:42] <raveesh> i am good
[12:42] <raveesh> just poking my noze around
[12:42] <HabaKKuk> 'k
[12:44] <HabaKKuk> okay, theres no such package like audicity or so
[12:44] <Jazon> hi.  how do i get kdm back instead of gdm?  i inadvertantly set gdm to default...
[12:44] <HabaKKuk> do you know guys any decent muic makin soft "
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> Jazon: you want to back from kde to gnome or what ?
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> ;] 
[12:45] <Jazon> heh - exactly
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> well
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> when you start PC
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> theres a field where you need to put passwd innit ?
[12:45] <Jazon> no no i know that
[12:46] <HabaKKuk> so wheres your issue ?
[12:46] <Jazon> i want to use kdm and not gdm for that screen
[12:46] <HabaKKuk> no understand
[12:46] <HabaKKuk> ;] 
[12:46] <Jazon> hmmm
[12:46] <Jazon> ok.  well, gdm is the gnome login manager.  kdm is the kde login manager
[12:47] <HabaKKuk> yeah fine
[12:47] <hyper> someone is using edgy here? Got a prob with EasyCam2
[12:47] <Jazon> i did an apt-get install gnome or something and inadvertantly allowed it to use gdm instead of kdm.  i want the kdm back
[12:47] <Jazon> just dont know what file that setting is in
[12:47] <HabaKKuk> one sec
[12:47] <pascalFR> HabaKKuk: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm ?
[12:48] <HabaKKuk> pascalFR: theres no needs to reinstal
[12:48] <pascalFR> that's the quick way
[12:49] <HabaKKuk> he's got both kdm and gdm, i think it can be changed in system settings -> sren r so , or when you log to system, theres some opions as well
[12:49] <Jazon> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:49] <HabaKKuk> about which srtting youd like to run
[12:49] <HabaKKuk> dunno
[12:49] <Jazon> thx that was close....
[12:49] <Jazon> :P
[12:49] <HabaKKuk> ;] 
[12:49] <Jazon> restarting X now... brb
[12:50] <pascalFR> it should be in /etc/default
[12:51] <HabaKKuk> pascalFR: do u know any makin/mixin music soft /
[12:51] <HabaKKuk> ?\
[12:52] <pascalFR> HabaKKuk: nop
[12:52] <flaccid> hmm what is the flashplayer binary
[12:52] <flaccid> flashplugin-nonfree is just the plugin i assume
[12:52] <pascalFR> google is your friend  or  the wiki in the topic
[12:52] <pascalFR> flaccid: yes
[12:53] <flaccid> what is the name of the player?
[12:53] <flaccid> package
[12:53] <pascalFR> what do u mean ?  independant player ?
[12:53] <flaccid> yeah flash player to play .swf
[12:53] <flaccid> is this the one libflash-swfplayer
[12:55] <pascalFR> flaccid:  dont know  search the wiki
[12:55] <flaccid> ok
[12:55] <huy> hi
[12:56] <huy> can some one help me register my compuer to a domain name?
[12:56] <pascalFR> i have a swf-player  listed
[12:56] <huy> i already bought a domain name but i don't know how to create a domain with my computer
[12:56] <flaccid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FlashPlayerStandalone   <--- says to use wine ouchy!!
[12:56] <pascalFR> ok
[12:57] <flaccid> huy: create a domain?
[12:57] <huy> yes so i can access my computer remotely such as dev.domain.com
[12:57] <huy> so far i am asking godaddy to forward request
[12:57] <huy> for me
[12:58] <huy> i don't want to rely on godaddy
[12:59] <flaccid> huy: dns
[12:59] <huy> yep
[12:59] <huy> what do i use?? bind9?
[12:59] <flaccid> um
[12:59] <flaccid> is your server in a datacentre
[12:59] <huy> no it is at home atm
[12:59] <flaccid> because if not goddaddy will be more reliable
[12:59] <flaccid> do not serve dns from home
[01:00] <huy> ah
[01:00] <flaccid> bad idea
[01:00] <huy> but if go daddy goes down
[01:00] <huy> so is my server
[01:00] <flaccid> no
[01:00] <flaccid> incorrect
[01:00] <huy> plus go daddy can only forward http request
[01:00] <hyper> someone managed to run EasyCam2 in kubuntu edgy?
[01:00] <flaccid> dns is distributed
[01:00] <flaccid> huy: goddaddy hosts the dns, you host the site/services or whatever
[01:00] <huy> i want to be able to ssh into my home computer using my domain name
[01:01] <flaccid> you simply add an A record with your home static ip to your dns zone with godaddy
[01:01] <flaccid> huy: what is the domain name?
[01:01] <huy> www.riotstudios.net
[01:02] <huy> i want to be able to do ssh mycomputer.riotstudios.net
[01:02] <flaccid> do you wanna host the domain or a subdomain?
[01:02] <flaccid> right a subdomain
[01:02] <huy> yep
[01:02] <huy> and i have another coputer in another location
[01:02] <flaccid> so add an A record with godaddy for mycomputer.riotstudios.net to your home static ip
[01:02] <huy> running another service
[01:02] <huy> ah
[01:02] <huy> ok
[01:03] <flaccid> thats all you need to do...
[01:03] <huy> would that work for all service?
[01:04] <flaccid> what it means is that when someone looks up mycomputer.riotstudios.net the godaddy dns server will respond with that ip
[01:04] <elois> yo
[01:05] <flaccid> which means it 'points' to your home network.. so you can do whatever you want service wise. you have ~64K ports to play with
[01:05] <huy> can you explain why hosting your own dns is bad?
[01:05] <flaccid> its not
[01:05] <flaccid> but it is if you don't have a server in a datacentre that has redundancy
[01:06] <huy> well bad for an average user
[01:06] <flaccid> if you cannot provide 99.9999999% uptime
[01:06] <flaccid> say i do a look up, you are down temporarily
[01:06] <flaccid> ..
[01:06] <huy> ah ok, but does it matter, i mean if i go offline, people won't reach my compuer
[01:06] <huy> which won't be a problem to me
[01:07] <flaccid> but because its distributed, parent dns server @ isp does the lookup. all dns servers down the line ..
[01:07] <huy> but when i go online again, you will
[01:07] <flaccid> thats not dns
[01:07] <huy> oh
[01:07] <flaccid> thats simply you up or down
[01:07] <flaccid> we are talking about serving dns
[01:07] <flaccid> there is no way your home will be more reliable than godaddy
[01:07] <huy> yep am i serving it jus for my network?
[01:08] <flaccid> no
[01:08] <flaccid> master dns server for the whole world...
[01:08] <cpk2> huy: even if godaddy goes down people can still hit you via your ip
[01:08] <flaccid> you can serve internal dns
[01:08] <flaccid> but that is caching name server, not authoritive
[01:08] <flaccid> cpk2: thanks
[01:08] <huy> ah, one problem i am having is that my page when it is loading, it display my ip address
[01:08] <huy> instead of my domain name
[01:09] <huy> and apache is saying that cannot resolve domain name
[01:09] <flaccid> thats because the domain is parked i believe
[01:09] <huy> yes it is.
[01:09] <huy> what does that mean?
[01:09] <flaccid> or maybe its not one sec
[01:10] <flaccid> hmm no it has an A record
[01:10] <huy> people say that godaddy park domain name on their site
[01:10] <flaccid> what do you mean by when it is loading, it displays ip address?
[01:10] <huy> like when it is loading a picture
[01:10] <huy> it display the path to the picture which is my ip  address
[01:11] <huy> try www.riotstudios.net and you see what i mean
[01:11] <flaccid> looks like they non-standard parking
[01:12] <flaccid> are you hosting with godaddy?
[01:12] <huy> what does that mean?
[01:12] <huy> jus the domain name
[01:12] <huy> not the website
[01:12] <flaccid> where are you going to host it?
[01:12] <huy> my compuer
[01:12] <flaccid> right
[01:12] <flaccid> so basically you are being scabbing on the hosting cost?
[01:13] <flaccid> not to sound rude..
[01:13] <huy> what do you mean?
[01:13] <cpk2> why even use godaddy you can get free dns at dyndns
[01:13] <flaccid> you are hosting from home to save paying for hosting?
[01:13] <flaccid> cpk2: not for your own domain you can't
[01:13] <huy> no i am hosting at home to test first
[01:13] <flaccid> huy: is this your home ip 60.241.227.110?
[01:13] <huy> yes
[01:13] <cpk2> flaccid: semi-personalized at dyndns
[01:14] <flaccid> huy: i read the pricing today
[01:14] <huy> i'm not paying godaddy for hosting
[01:14] <flaccid> huy: in that case you need to change the A record on godaddy to that IP
[01:14] <huy> i pay them for domain
[01:14] <huy> which they broker for me
[01:14] <flaccid> the A record atm is riotstudios.net	1	A	64.202.189.170	3600s
[01:14] <flaccid> that needs to be changed
[01:15] <flaccid> to your home IP
[01:15] <huy> yes
[01:15] <huy> pray tell how I should do that?
[01:15] <flaccid> huy: if godaddy is hosting your dns, they should have a control panel to manage
[01:16] <flaccid> if you are planning on hosting on a proper server, i'd suggest allocating a subdomain only for your home web server
[01:16] <huy> what does that mean?
[01:16] <huy> sorry, i'm learning alot here
[01:16] <flaccid> are you going to get hosting?
[01:17] <huy> eventually yes
[01:17] <huy> but now now
[01:17] <huy> *not
[01:17] <flaccid> if you wanna host the TLD, then change the A record
[01:17] <huy> ok
[01:17] <flaccid> tld being top level ie. riotstudios.net
[01:18] <flaccid> you may need to unpark the domain at godaddy
[01:18] <huy> yes
[01:18] <flaccid> as the nameservers are
[01:18] <flaccid> park16.secureserver.net
[01:18] <flaccid> park15.secureserver.net
[01:18] <flaccid> are you paying them for dns hosting?
[01:18] <huy> hmm i just pay for the domain
[01:18] <huy> does that mean i pay for dns hsting?
[01:19] <flaccid> are you sure they are giving you free dns hosting?
[01:19] <huy> i don't know. I bought a domain anem with them
[01:19] <huy> and they park my domain at their server
[01:19] <huy> which is forward to my server
[01:20] <flaccid> cpk2: says 14.95 a year here http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/
[01:20] <flaccid> its not forwarding atm
[01:20] <huy> so if you do a tracert you will see their server instead of mine
[01:20] <flaccid> wtf
[01:20] <flaccid> ah i see
[01:21] <huy> i know
[01:21] <huy> i am confused
[01:21] <flaccid> i'm not
[01:21] <huy> if you do a www.riotstudios.net you get my website on my computer
[01:21] <flaccid> doesn't look like you have dns hosting
[01:21] <huy> but if u do a tracert you get their server
[01:22] <flaccid> i can't see any forwarding
[01:22] <flaccid> i'll try the traceroute
[01:23] <flaccid> basically they are not giving you free dns hosting
[01:23] <huy> yea their server is f*cked at the momment
[01:23] <flaccid> why ?
[01:23] <huy> i dont know
[01:24] <huy> for some reason i cant access my site through www.riotstudios.net
[01:24] <flaccid> then it can't be fucked
[01:24] <huy> but i can access it though my direct ip
[01:24] <huy> i could yesterday though
[01:24] <huy> just to day its acting up
[01:24] <flaccid> what dns server are you using
[01:24] <huy> um none yet
[01:25] <huy> that's why i came here to ask if i need one
[01:25] <flaccid> well thats why
[01:25] <flaccid> dns server resloves name to ip
[01:25] <flaccid> if you don't use a dns server you cannot access any domain
[01:25] <huy> hmm i could usually access it
[01:25] <flaccid> dns changes..
[01:25] <flaccid> what does host riotstudios.net return?
[01:26] <huy>  64.202.189.170
[01:27] <huy> that's not my ip
[01:27] <flaccid> exactly
[01:27] <flaccid> and if you do a wget riotstudios.net there is no HTTP forwarding
[01:27] <huy> yea they must have turned it off
[01:28] <flaccid> so basically you need proper dns hosting
[01:28] <huy> yes i guess so
[01:28] <flaccid> or you could set up your own dns with bind9 like you said
[01:28] <flaccid> but its not good idea
[01:29] <huy> yep and that's not recommended
[01:29] <huy> i thought purchasing a domain name automatically gives you a dns
[01:29] <flaccid> how much is dns hosting with go daddy
[01:29] <flaccid> nope
[01:29] <flaccid> only authority on the domain
[01:29] <flaccid> you then need two components
[01:29] <flaccid> dns and hosting
[01:29] <huy> 60 for 3 years
[01:30] <yamal> the website at ip 64.202.189.170 does try to load a a frame from 60.241.227.110, seems like some "web forwarding" service
[01:30] <huy> yea there is
[01:30] <josh_> who uses freenx?
[01:30] <flaccid> yamal: i think huy put that in himself
[01:31] <robyns-here> anyone here know much about the kubuntu packages on their website?
[01:31] <huy> they have a domain config screen
[01:31] <huy> and there is a website forwarding
[01:31] <yamal> then he could change that right where he created that
[01:31] <huy> so i just put that in
[01:31] <flaccid> heh but your right, could be dodgy godaddies version of forwarding
[01:31] <huy> yea it only work for http
[01:32] <sebsebseb> How can I find out what my saved auto log in password is for  ICQ in Gaim in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[01:32] <huy> wow, and i thought purchasing a domain automatically means you can start hosting website on your computer
[01:32] <flaccid> hehe nah you need dns
[01:32] <robyns-here> sebsebseb, you could try looking in configuration editor in ubuntu
[01:32] <flaccid> what country you in huy?
[01:32] <huy> aus
[01:34] <flaccid> me too
[01:34] <huy> aussie aussie aussie
[01:34] <flaccid> heh and i own hosting business
[01:34] <robyns-here> oi oi oi
[01:35] <huy> heheh
[01:35] <flaccid> go the broncos
[01:35] <robyns-here> crows
[01:35] <huy> sydney siders?
[01:35] <flaccid> li'm a sydney sider
[01:35] <robyns-here> nup, adelaide
[01:35] <flaccid> but moved to hobart
[01:35] <huy> omg why?
[01:35] <flaccid> study
[01:35] <robyns-here> brrr cold in hobart
[01:36] <flaccid> mild winter it was
[01:36] <huy> alot of wierd stuffs in hobart
[01:36] <flaccid> like?
[01:36] <huy> havent you heard about tassie?
[01:36] <huy> people say they all inbred
[01:37] <flaccid> yeah
[01:37] <flaccid> its not like that but
[01:37] <flaccid> http://www.editdns.net/
[01:37] <flaccid> there is some free dns hosting
[01:37] <flaccid> infact google search shows many
[01:37] <huy> is that yours?
[01:37] <flaccid> negative
[01:38] <huy> ah what hosting business are yours?
[01:38] <flaccid> dns hosting with me is prolly 20 bux a year
[01:38] <huy> 20 means nothing for a business
[01:39] <flaccid> i can do you hosting for 5 bux a month
[01:39] <flaccid> but yeah hey pm if you wanna talk
[01:39] <huy> hosting ... as in webhosting?
[01:39] <flaccid> the free dns option is there for you if you wanna run all your stuff from home
[01:39] <huy> omg i cant even access godaddy site
[01:39] <huy> is it down for you?
[01:40] <flaccid> nope seems ok for me
[01:40] <flaccid> hmm huy seem to dissappear lol
[01:41] <huy> probably got hacked
[01:41] <flaccid> u there or you going to timeout?
[01:41] <huy> sorry was chatting with my wife
[01:41] <flaccid> heh you not responding to whois or ctcp
[01:41] <huy> if you can host ruby il host with you
[01:41] <flaccid> let me check
[01:42] <flaccid> this box don't have ruby
[01:42] <flaccid> but i wanna support
[01:42] <flaccid> what does it require?
[01:42] <huy> rails
[01:42] <flaccid> ruby on rails?
[01:42] <flaccid> is that with apache
[01:42] <huy> yep
[01:43] <huy> with apache or lighthtpd
[01:43] <flaccid> particular package you prefer?
[01:43] <huy> apache2
[01:43] <huy> mod_fcgi
[01:44] <flaccid> is that mod what ruby provides?
[01:44] <huy> with mysql backend
[01:44] <huy> yep
[01:44] <huy> we're talking about $us? or au$
[01:44] <flaccid> au
[01:44] <huy> 5 bucks a monh is not bad
[01:45] <flaccid> its us hosting
[01:45] <huy> how much bandwdth?
[01:45] <flaccid> pm
[01:45] <huy> lol i can't i ssh my home box
[01:45] <huy> and irc through there
[01:45] <huy> i dont know how to use cli irc hehehe
[01:46] <flaccid> bitchx
[01:46] <p0w4h> hello im doing: apt-get install build-essential.  it keeps asking to put the kubuntu cd into my drive but i don't have it.
[01:46] <huy> well my email is huy@riotstudios.net
[01:46] <huy> send me your info and details
[01:46] <flaccid> p0w4h: change your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[01:46] <flaccid> huy: pm
[01:46] <p0w4h> ok thanks
[01:47] <huy> flaccid: i can't buddy, im using a command line irc
[01:47] <huy> i cant have multiple windows
[01:48] <flaccid> ok
[01:48] <huy> what are you studying in hobart?
[01:48] <flaccid> computing
[01:49] <huy> why did you go all the way to hobart?
[01:49] <daurnimator> tasmania sucks
[01:49] <flaccid> need a change
[01:49] <huy> uts, usyd have them
[01:49] <flaccid> and you can't do a course like this in brisbane or sydney
[01:49] <huy> what kind of course? game?
[01:49] <flaccid> nah straight computing
[01:49] <huy> what do you mean straight computing
[01:50] <flaccid> software engineering major and stuff
[01:50] <flaccid> only open source/FOSS
[01:50] <huy> you can do that at uts
[01:50] <flaccid> cept java
[01:50] <huy> i did mine at uts
[01:50] <flaccid> didnt like some of the units
[01:50] <huy> oss is up to you
[01:50] <huy> they teach you the theory
[01:50] <huy> not the tools
[01:51] <flaccid> yes
[01:51] <hyper> does kubuntu install by default a firewall?
[01:51] <huy> do you know of any game dev channel ?
[01:51] <flaccid> but you use an implementation as an example
[01:52] <flaccid> nope
[01:52] <huy> hyper: no
[01:52] <flaccid> huy can you chat to me in #huy
[01:52] <hyper> huy: thx... but now that is strange :(
[01:52] <huy> hyper: you can install it, follow the ubuntuguide
[01:53] <hyper> huy: I'm trying to get the webcam through amsn to work
[01:53] <hyper> huy: it says either I'm firewalled or behind a router... well I'm behind a router but I do forward the ports....
[01:53] <benkong2> Can a normal user issue a shutdown command? When I want to shutdown all I get is suspend | hibernate|logoff and then I gop back to the login screen and have to choose Alt-S. I want to be able to choose shutdown from the normal menu.
[01:53] <benkong2> Is this possible ^^
[01:53] <huy> did you forward to port from your router to your computer?
[01:54] <hyper> huy: yes I did... 6890-690 tcp and udp
[01:55] <hyper> I meant -6900 ^^
[01:55] <huy> hmmm that is odd
[01:55] <huy> can ubuntu detect your webcam?
[01:55] <huy> or kubuntu
[01:56] <hyper> huy: in ekiga the webcam works
[01:56] <hyper> huy: in amsn I get it displayed but can't "configure" it
[01:57] <huy> ah then its amsn
[01:57] <hyper> huy: hmmm.... thx
[01:59] <hyper> huy: I guess that message appears always if you are behind a router
[02:00] <hyper> huy: I just tested it with a friend and she can see me :) thx for the hel
[02:01] <huy> hyper: no problem, just don't strip
[02:01] <benkong2> anyone tried NetworkManager in edgy? Is it working?
[02:02] <benkong2> !NetworkManager
[02:02] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:02] <dragonfire1> gm
[02:03] <hyper> huy: one more question: do you know where I can change the sound input? so that I can use the webcam mic?
[02:05] <hyper> actually, does amsn support voice?... hmmm, I guess I have to go for Skype
[02:15] <huy> exit
[02:16] <[renbolicious] > wow
[02:18] <[renbolicious] > !mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:22] <mafu> Does anyone by chance know the difference between tetex3 and Livetex2005? I want to use Kile, which depends on tetex3, and I have been using livetex until now, but the two systems seem to conflict, so I have to choose. Any help? :)
[02:27] <grothesk> Hi!
[02:27] <Arlington> hi all!
[02:27] <grothesk> How do I enable configurartion for a Logitech Dual Optical in kcontrol.
[02:27] <grothesk> It keeps saying me, that there might be a rights problem.
[02:29] <benkong2> why does apt want to uninstall f-spot openoffice.org and many many more packeges stating that they are nolonger required?
[02:35] <Arlington> in windows Ctr-Alt-2 makes @ but in kubuntu i must press Alt Gr. is it possible to fix this
[02:36] <Arlington> is there anyone who can hel with ^^^
[02:37] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[02:40] <rampage>  i cant open adept
[02:40] <rampage>  plz help
[02:40] <Arlington> what does it say?
[02:40] <rampage>  it saying su returned with error
[02:40] <Arlington> !adept
[02:40] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:42] <rampage>  well i cant open it n nothin written on how to to solve these
[02:43] <Arlington> have you tried the kubuntu forums? searching for that exact error message?
[02:43] <rampage> nope
[02:43] <rampage> link ?
[02:43] <Arlington> www.kubuntu.com there is a forum link at the top
[02:44] <Arlington> rampage: http://kubuntuforums.net/
[02:44] <Arlington> rampage: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=search
[02:44] <rampage> k
[02:47] <qkr> I installed kubuntu and now I am trying to compile a C program with gcc and it doesn't find the stdio.h header file.
[02:48] <qkr> can anyone help?
[02:48] <Arlington> qkr: sorry
[02:48] <Arlington> rampage: did you find anything?
[02:50] <[renbolicious] > !ati
[02:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:51] <qkr> no-one can help me?
[02:54] <[renbolicious] > !ati
[02:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:57] <koboi> hello
[02:57] <koboi> c est quoi la derniere version de amsn ??
[02:57] <dinosaur-rus> qkr: I hope you wrote "#include <stdio.h>", not "#include "stdio.h""
[02:58] <dinosaur-rus> koboi: please speak English
[02:58] <koboi> #kubuntu_fr
[02:59] <koboi> c est quoi deja le lien ?
[03:01] <dinosaur-rus> koboi: this is #kubuntu, here we speak English
[03:01] <dinosaur-rus> not French
[03:01] <Arlington> anyone know when the folder /etc/hotplug/usb/ appears or why i don't have it?
[03:02] <octan> can anyone explain to me what a syn flood is?
[03:04] <dinosaur-rus> octan: it's when some host sends lots of SYN (connection establishment) packets to screw its victim
[03:05] <octan> dinosaur-rus, what harm can it do?
[03:06] <Dink> Anyone know how to show "text" during the usplash on edgy vs just a bar ??
[03:06] <dinosaur-rus> octan: primarily slowdown due to huge number of packets that must be processed
[03:06] <rampage>  well at last i have fixed it
[03:06] <rampage>  if some one cant open adept can msg me
[03:06] <Arlington> rampage:  how did you solve it?
[03:06] <Arlington> did the forum help?
[03:07] <rampage>  by editing /etc/sudoer
[03:07] <octan> dinosaur-rus, alright,, but does it need to be a syn flag that send? cant it be a ack flag also?
[03:07] <dinosaur-rus> rampage: add it to the forum so anyone who needs it can find
[03:07] <rampage> ok
[03:07] <raven79> hi all
[03:07] <octan> tcp flages
[03:08] <Arlington> can some one explain to me about /etc/usb/hotplug
[03:08] <Arlington> !hotplug
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <octan> !coldplug
[03:08] <octan> :P
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coldplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <Arlington> octan:  :-D
[03:09] <dinosaur-rus> octan: dunno, but AFAIK usually SYN-flood is done via raw sockets to get more control (fake sender's IP, ignore other packets)
[03:09] <dinosaur-rus> !coolplug
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coolplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <dinosaur-rus> heh
[03:09] <octan> yea.. but there are tcp flags,, such as syn ack fin rst so  on
[03:10] <flaccid> locate hyu@
[03:10] <flaccid> oops
[03:10] <raven79> someone could help me to add some repository to my repo lists
[03:11] <[renbolicious] > !quake
[03:11] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[03:11] <[renbolicious] > nah
[03:11] <octan> !doom3
[03:11] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:11] <[renbolicious] > what do i do with 64bit
[03:11] <[renbolicious] > doenst want to run  the 32bit installer
[03:12] <octan> what you mean
[03:12] <octan> ahh
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > glibc
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > 2.0
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > not supportet
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > (tried to run setup)
[03:12] <octan> i know :P
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > :(
[03:12] <octan> read thiis
[03:12] <octan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:12] <octan> then you have it working
[03:13] <[renbolicious] > ok
[03:13] <[renbolicious] > thx
[03:13] <octan> np
[03:13] <main2> anyone here using tightvncserver?
[03:13] <main2> im able to connect to my tightvncserver, but the kde wm doesnt startup :/
[03:13] <octan> heh i tould you to use ssh -X :P last night.
[03:14] <octan> you can start up an entire X with ssh
[03:14] <main2> solved.. the problem
[03:14] <main2> octan: an entire x, a kde desktop as well?
[03:14] <soulrider> hyello
[03:14] <octan> yes
[03:14] <main2> (krfb, kept on crashing so i left it..)
[03:14] <Arlington> octan:  do you by any change know anything about usb and hotplug?
[03:15] <octan> Arlington, not much.. sorry
[03:15] <main2> octan: could you tell me a bit more about this?
[03:15] <soulrider> does anyone know where i can get the dapper an the edgy knot 2 color schemes? or how i can export them form a machine that has them ?
[03:15] <octan> main2, thers alot of howtos on google
[03:15] <Arlington> anything? i motsly wonder why i don't have the directory
[03:16] <dinosaur-rus> octan: do you want to say Kubuntu doesn't have 32-bit apps support out-of-the-box?
[03:16] <octan> dinosaur-rus, ?
[03:16] <raven79> sorry some could, please tell me where i can add repositories? ...should be a web site where user can choose their repositories...
[03:16] <rampage>  well here is the link http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=9506.0
[03:16] <rampage> ^_^
[03:17] <raven79> thanks
[03:17] <octan> dinosaur-rus, some app are in 32 bits like flash,, and they dont work on 64 bit so you need to run them in 32 bit inside the 64 bit system
[03:17] <raven79> rampage: where i must add it?
[03:17] <dinosaur-rus> octan: I mean does freshly installed Kubuntu allow working with 32-bit apps?
[03:17] <Arlington> rampage dosn't that mean that you've made all your users to roots?
[03:17] <Arlington> that wouldn't be good.
[03:17] <rampage> nope
[03:17] <Arlington> okay.
[03:17] <rampage> only the u ser u want
[03:17] <dinosaur-rus> octan: what about regular apps like web-browsers, etc?
[03:18] <Arlington> i'am just a newbie ;-D
[03:18] <rampage> u can also disable root acess
[03:18] <Arlington> okay nice :-D
[03:18] <octan> dinosaur-rus, you can use etc firefox in 64 bit,, but without flash
[03:18] <Arlington> do you know anything about hotplug an usb?
[03:18] <octan> flash is a closed code
[03:18] <octan> and they only support 32 atm
[03:18] <host-one> ciao
[03:19] <rampage> nah ^_^
[03:19] <soulrider> Arlington: what do you mean with hotplug an usb?
[03:19] <dinosaur-rus> octan: so 64-bit Kubuntu can't run 32-bit apps without some magic dances? :P
[03:20] <Arlington> soulrider: my logitech mouse can't send it's info to xserver because of some conflict and to solve this i need to add a script to the folder /etc/usb/hotplug. all according to kubuntu help. but i don't have the folder
[03:20] <octan> dinosaur-rus read the link i pased its the magic ,,
[03:20] <Arlington> i meant KDE where i wrote xserver
[03:21] <octan> main2, http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[03:22] <main2> thanks octan :-))
[03:22] <Arlington> soulrider:  etc/hotplug/usb
[03:22] <octan> main2, np
[03:23] <soulrider> err, no idea Arlington, sorry
[03:23] <Arlington> too bad.
[03:23] <Arlington> do you have that folder? (just curious)
[03:24] <dinosaur-rus> octan: ohh, it seems I need voodoo magic to be able to run 32-bit apps like Opera
[03:25] <DHGE> Arlington: there is a script and a config-file for my logi-mouse in there
[03:26] <octan> dinosaur-rus, are you considering installing 64?
[03:26] <octan> im using it,, :)
[03:26] <Arlington> yeah that's what i wanna have too. but the directory dosn't even exist on my box...
[03:26] <octan> and have both java and flash working, thou running in 32 bit, instead of exec firefox i do firefox32
[03:27] <Arlington> DHGE:  yeah that's what i wanna have too. but the directory dosn't even exist on my box...
[03:27] <DHGE> Arlington: boot with a live Kubuntu (if you have ...) and copy the files from there
[03:28] <Arlington> but i've installed from a livekubuntu...
[03:29] <dinosaur-rus> octan: I'm gonna install Kubuntu 6.10 for x64, but I use Opera which doesn't have 64-bit version
[03:30] <rampage> software installed by adept is default installed on  /usr/local
[03:30] <rampage> ???
[03:30] <cox377> I'm looking to get a wifi dongle, does anyone have any recommendtions for one that would work right out of the box under kubuntu?
[03:31] <octan> dinosaur-rus how many app do you use that is in only 32 bit?
[03:31] <dinosaur-rus> octan: two apps
[03:31] <octan> dinosaur-rus, let me guess opera and flash ?
[03:31] <dinosaur-rus> octan: ah, 2 apps and flash
[03:32] <octan> right, and you only do that step once for each app.. and when you want to run then use appname32 instead of appname simple as that
[03:32] <dinosaur-rus> octan: damn, 3 apps and flash
[03:32] <octan> dinosaur-rus, what apps?
[03:33] <dinosaur-rus> octan: Opera, Flash, Avast! Antivirus (I don't have working Internet under Windows, so...), Adobe Reader
[03:33] <Arlington> cox377:  my d-link works very nice
[03:34] <octan> dinosaur-rus, since you only have thouse few apps running in only 32 you should defantly install 64 bit
[03:35] <giles> hey yall
[03:35] <octan> dinosaur-rus, and once ther ported to 64 bit on delete the 32 bit version :)'
[03:36] <dinosaur-rus> octan: yeah, but I thought/hoped there'll be less promlems with 32-bit apps... Windows is much better in this way (don't hurt me for these words)...
[03:37] <giles> I was wondering, Ubuntu has its package manager "Synaptic", whats the Kubuntu equivlent?
[03:37] <buz> adept
[03:37] <octan> dinosaur-rus, ? you got a 64 bit version of windows ?
[03:37] <dinosaur-rus> octan: yes
[03:37] <octan> yuuwe
[03:38] <giles> but Synaptec allows you to download anything and search, while Adept only lets you update core files
[03:38] <cox377> Arlington: Hello again, did it work straight in?? no need for ndiswrapper in other words?
[03:38] <octan> dinosaur-rus, i dont see the problem.. i have one synaptic32 for 32 bits app and one synaptic for 64 bit apps
[03:41] <Arlington> no just had to tell it the wep password and it was good to go.
[03:41] <cox377> Arlington: really?? sounds goood.. do u have a model No.?
[03:42] <Arlington> yeah hold on.
[03:42] <cox377> Arlington: cheers
[03:42] <dinosaur-rus> octan: I meant 64-bit Windows doesn't need ANY special manipulations for installing and running 32-bit applications at all! that thing is completely transparent to the user
[03:42] <estasy90> vedrai che ci capisco molto..
[03:43] <Arlington> Swl-G122 version B1 Firmware ver 2.03
[03:43] <octan> dinosaur-rus, this is linux,., it require some loving and care :p so you have to do it your self :P
[03:44] <dinosaur-rus> octan: :)
[03:44] <Arlington> cox377: make that dwl ---->
[03:46] <dinosaur-rus> oh, is Kubuntu kernel HIMEM-enabled? the question is stupid for 64-bit system, but I'd want to precaution :P
[03:46] <Arlington> cox377:  i don't know if it's availible in all countries tjough...
[03:49] <cox377> Arlington: cheers for that, which country did u buy it in?
[03:50] <Arlington> i'am a swede :-D
[03:50] <dinosaur-rus> octan: hmm... the last post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187542 says that 6.06 doesn't need chroot for 32-bit apps... I'm confused :S
[03:53] <Arlington> cox377:  hope it works fine for you too. not all that expensive either right?
[03:55] <cox377> Arlington: nah shouldnt be
[03:55] <octan> dinosaur-rus, well i would like to know how he does that
[03:56] <rampage>  amarok wont play mp3s help
[03:56] <Arlington> cox377: good luck then
[03:56] <MistaED> dinosaur-rus: afaik, the biggest problems now is that apt needs to force-install i386 stuff on amd64, and of course 32-bit plugins don't work under 64-bit firefox without installing the 32-bit firefox manually
[03:56] <Arlington> rampage: you need to download codecs.
[03:56] <rampage>  from where ??
[03:56] <Arlington> rampage: do it through adept.
[03:56] <rampage>  links ??
[03:57] <MistaED> but there's no need for a chroot afaik
[03:57] <rampage>  wanna install it offline
[03:57] <Arlington> rampage: impossible i think... :-(
[03:57] <rampage>  where installed files by apt is stored ??
[03:58] <Arlington> rampage: they arn't stored i believe just installed....
[03:58] <Arlington> !repositories
[03:58] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:58] <rampage>  temp stored some where ?
[03:59] <rampage>  apt-get amarok say already new version installed
[03:59] <dinosaur-rus> octan: I found info that 6.06+ doesn't need chroot in all rather new threads
[04:00] <octan> i see hes using lib32
[04:00] <rampage>  ??
[04:00] <Arlington> rampage: it's not amaraok you wan't to update
[04:00] <rampage>  then ?
[04:00] <octan> dinosaur-rus, then better for you :P now goahead an install :P
[04:01] <dinosaur-rus> octan: yeah, but at first I need to backup all important data :)
[04:01] <rampage>  tell me the format of apt-get install ...???
[04:01] <Arlington> rampage: stop ?? and then?? i'am working on your asnwer.
[04:02] <rampage>  ok] 
[04:03] <Arlington> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:03] <rampage> ok
[04:03] <Arlington> rampage: btw it's in multiverse...
[04:03] <rampage> hm
[04:03] <mini_gamer1896> arlington: shouldn't it be sudo...
[04:04] <mini_gamer1896> ?
[04:04] <Arlington> mini_gamer1896: sure it would be bu he asked for the apt get format
[04:04] <Arlington> mini_gamer1896: *but
[04:04] <mini_gamer1896> oh, sry
[04:04] <rampage> 
[04:04] <rampage> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:04] <rampage> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:04] <rampage> is only available from another source
[04:04] <rampage> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[04:04] <hyper> hiya, I have problems with pairing my headset... I always get  "Pairing not allowed"
[04:04] <hyper> Hi abattoir :)
[04:05] <Arlington> rampage:  you must enable multiverse,,,
[04:05] <rampage> not working
[04:05] <rampage> how to enable ??
[04:05] <Arlington> through adept
[04:05] <Arlington> open adept
[04:06] <Arlington> rampage: then manage repositories
[04:06] <rampage> k
[04:07] <rampage> then
[04:07] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[04:07] <abattoir> hyper: got edgy installed? ;)
[04:07] <hyper> abattoir: webcam in amsn runs fine... however I can't pair my headset
[04:07] <Arlington> rampage: then the line that starts with deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com in the field that says components press there and enter multiverse
[04:07] <hyper> abattoir: haven't updated to kde4 ^^
[04:08] <abattoir> hyper: in edgy?
[04:08] <abattoir> hyper: i mean the pairing issue
[04:08] <Arlington> rampage: did you follow?
[04:08] <hyper> abattoir: yes, it's in edgy
[04:08] <rampage> man
[04:09] <abattoir> hyper: bt in edgy has some issues
[04:09] <rampage> i am not gettin http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:09] <hyper> abattoir: oh.... :(
[04:09] <hyper> abattoir: I get the webcam to run in edgy.... but not the headset :(
[04:09] <abattoir> hyper: try sudo hciconfig hci piscan
[04:09] <Arlington> okay what line do you have then?
[04:09] <abattoir> hyper: after that see if it pairs
[04:10] <Arlington> rampage: *lines
[04:10] <rampage> i am gettin deb http://us.archeive ......
[04:10] <abattoir> hyper: if it doesn't, you might need to compile bluez-utils manually
[04:10] <Arlington> well then add multiverse there....
[04:11] <Arlington> rampage:  or what does it say further down taht line?
[04:11] <dinosaur-rus> damn how can I get directory size?
[04:11] <rampage>  all deb line startin with http://us. ???
[04:12] <Arlington> rampage: what distro are you on?
[04:12] <emonkey> rampage, no there can be some they start with ftp://
[04:12] <rampage> kubuntu
[04:12] <Arlington> wich build?
[04:13] <rampage> 6.06
[04:13] <rampage> drapper drake
[04:13] <Arlington> rampage. in the field  far to the right of the window. called components.
[04:13] <rampage> y
[04:13] <hyper> abattoir: well, still no luck :(
[04:14] <abattoir> hyper: any errors?
[04:14] <hyper> it just won't let me pair
[04:14] <Arlington> rampage: what do you have any one that says universe or multiverse?
[04:14] <rampage> yup it say
[04:14] <Arlington> what does it say?
[04:14] <Arlington> universe right?
[04:14] <hyper> Oct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : link_key_request (sba=00:0E:A1:33:70:FA, dba=00:0D:44:3B:7D:B9)
[04:14] <hyper> Oct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : pin_code_request (sba=00:0E:A1:33:70:FA, dba=00:0D:44:3B:7D:B9)
[04:14] <hyper> Oct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : call_passkey_agent(): no agent registered
[04:14] <rampage>  main reistricted universe and multiverse
[04:15] <wimpies> How can I connect to my mysql db using openoffice database ?
[04:15] <hyper> abattoir: I never got a box or request for the key
[04:15] <wimpies> I tried with odbc and with jdbc but both fail
[04:15] <Arlington> we do you have one that's syas only universe?
[04:15] <Arlington> *says
[04:15] <rampage>  yup
[04:15] <abattoir> hyper: ok, you need to make some minor tweaks
[04:15] <rampage>  4 says likr that
[04:15] <Arlington> is it greyed or black?
[04:15] <rampage>  universe
[04:15] <abattoir> hyper: you should change the pin_helper in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf to /usr/lib/kbluepin
[04:16] <rampage>  grey
[04:16] <hyper> abattoir: I googled and tried everything I found... but no luck
[04:16] <abattoir> hyper: and i think you'd need to compile bluez-utils
[04:16] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all, my laptop reboots instead of shutting down if i click on kmenu -> logout -> shutdown
[04:16] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[04:16] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me.
[04:16] <Arlington> then press it and then press the button in the middle called confirm(?)
[04:16] <hyper> abattoir: I have this -->           pin_helper /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin;
[04:16] <v3ctor> wimpies: http://www.unixodbc.org/doc/OOoMySQL.pdf#search=%22connect%20openoffice%20mysql%20%22
[04:16] <hyper> abattoir: that's where the proggy is
[04:16] <Arlington> sorry just right click the field and choose enable.
[04:17] <abattoir> hyper: hmm, that's surprising, must have been fixed... see if that file actually exists
[04:17] <Arlington> rampage: can we take this through pm?
[04:17] <abattoir> hyper: also check if you have /usr/bin/pin-wrapper(or any other variation of that)
[04:19] <hyper> abattoir:
[04:19] <hyper> hyper@hyper-kubuntu:/usr/lib/kdebluetooth$ locate kbluepin
[04:19] <hyper> /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin
[04:19] <riri> hi
[04:19] <riri> i just update
[04:20] <abattoir> hyper: ok, the pinwrapper?
[04:20] <riri> kubuntu edgy beta
[04:20] <riri> and now neither adept nor apt-get works : segmentation error ?
[04:20] <hyper> abattoir: no pin-wrapper
[04:20] <riri> is there a way to correct this ?
[04:20] <j2daosh> how do i get music to play through freenx?
[04:20] <Arlington> rampage: did it work
[04:20] <abattoir> hyper: any other variations of pin* ?
[04:21] <hyper> abattoir: just pinky in that folder
[04:21] <j2daosh> anyone know how?
[04:21] <hyper> hyper@hyper-kubuntu:/usr/bin$ ls pin*
[04:21] <hyper> pinky
[04:21] <abattoir> hyper: they you'd have to download the sources for bluez-utils, modify the Makefile and compile it
[04:21] <hyper> abattoir: never modified a Makefile ^^
[04:21] <rampage> nope
[04:22] <hyper> abattoir: gonna be my first time... :)
[04:22] <abattoir> hyper: there's always a first to everything ;)
[04:23] <wimpies> v3ctor : thx it works ;)
[04:23] <hyper> abattoir: just bluez-utils? or the other packages also?
[04:23] <abattoir> hyper: bluez-utils should be fine
[04:23] <abattoir> hyper: run configure, and then ping me
[04:23] <abattoir> brb
[04:23] <v3ctor> wimpies: np
[04:24] <hyper> abattoir:  checking for BLUEZ... configure: error: Bluetooth library is required
[04:25] <abattoir> hyper: ok, then get bluez-lib too :(
[04:25] <hyper> ^^
[04:25] <intelikey> you know how if you access/open a tty then you can switch to it even if it's no longer active  (any console users here?)  does anyone know what it is in the startup process that might be accessing tty 5 & 6 ?     my [alt] +[left-arrow]  should go from tty1 to tty4 (i modified inittab) but there are two blank ttys between them. 5 and 6 which should not have been opened by anything that i can think of.   any thoughts ?
[04:27] <hyper> abattoir: configure run fine.... make also.... for makeinstall do I need to do that as sudo?
[04:27] <abattoir> hyper: no, wait a sec
[04:27] <mini_gamer1896> ok, i'm using 6.06, have kde, gnome, and xfce installed, and have a problem with xfce showing the toolbars when translucency is setup anywhere in kde; any suggestions?  Have asked in #xubuntu but am getting no answer after ~10min
[04:27] <hyper> abattoir: well, I'm still at the bluez-libs
[04:27] <Pensa`MIA> my grub menu is loaded with older kernels, can I just remove the older kernels from the adept package manager?
[04:27] <abattoir> hyper: oh, run make install too on it then
[04:28] <hyper> abattoir: as sudo right?
[04:28] <abattoir> hyper: its bluez-utils that we need to modify
[04:28] <abattoir> hyper: yup
[04:28] <intelikey> hyper yes as root
[04:29] <hyper> abattoir: now configure in the utils I get this:    checking for DBUS... configure: error: dbus > 0.35 is required
[04:31] <hyper> test
[04:31] <hyper> :)
[04:32] <hyper> abattoir: now configure in the utils I get this:    checking for DBUS... configure: error: dbus > 0.35 is required
[04:32] <wimpies> How can I edit records from a Database table from OpenOffice Database (V3ctor ?)
[04:33] <raveesh> can anyone help me?
[04:33] <abattoir> hyper: you should have that installed... else install it 'sudo apt-get install dbus'
[04:33] <raveesh> amaroK not bing updated
[04:34] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 i'll answer you, although i don't know anything about your particular issue.  this kde that ub 6.6 is using is screwy from the word go.  it writes to and reads from  /root  even though you may never run sudo/kdesu... that should not happen!   and no telling what else is (hosed) in it.  i suspect that kde is writing to a dir that xfce is looking in for config info.
[04:34] <dinosaur-rus> lol before cleaning my home directory up I had 5.1GB used and 3.8GB free, now I have 3.8GB used and 5.1GB free
[04:35] <hyper> abattoir: it's the newest version (dbus is already the newest version.)
[04:35] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus 3.8G is a lot for just the installed system.  you must have some added data files (mp3 ogg or something)
[04:36] <raveesh> anyone? kindly reply
[04:36] <abattoir> hyper: i wonder why you get that error message then
[04:36] <hyper> how to find out what version it is?
[04:36] <hyper> dbus -v?
[04:36] <abattoir> hyper: was there any dbus related package on the bluez site?
[04:36] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey: k, was suspecting the same myself, thanks
[04:36] <abattoir> hyper: apt-cache show dbus
[04:37] <dinosaur-rus> intelikey: I have entire Linux (including home directory) on one partition, and this is my current Linux, I haven't installed Kubuntu yet
[04:37] <hyper> abattoir:  Version: 0.93-0ubuntu2
[04:37] <hyper> abattoir: just bluez- libs / utils / firmware / hcidump / gnome
[04:38] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 a way to test that would be add a user account that never starts kde.  you can test xfce in that account and set everything the same as in the account that does use kde  then compare the home dirs.
[04:39] <mini_gamer1896> intlikey: k
[04:39] <abattoir> hyper: weird, i don't understand why it complains
[04:41] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 also if you are using kdm as your graphic login manager  it may affect that test.   maybe use startx for that account.
[04:41] <hyper> abattoir: well, I don't understand either :(
[04:41] <hyper> oh well
[04:41] <abattoir> hyper: pastebin the exact error msg
[04:41] <intelikey> ldconfig
[04:41] <abattoir> hyper: along w/ the entire configure run(if possible)
[04:41] <intelikey> hyper run  ldconfig    it can't hurt anything.
[04:42] <intelikey> as root ^
[04:42] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey, am using the xfce default logon
[04:43] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 k  it seems same enough.
[04:43] <mini_gamer1896> sry, am having to wait for a download to start the test
[04:43] <intelikey> i've not noticed any problem with xdm
[04:45] <nomadsoul> hi
[04:46] <intelikey> nomadsoul
[04:46] <nomadsoul> does anybody know if i can have kubuntu in italian?
[04:46] <nomadsoul> i have dummy users here
[04:46] <hyper> abattoir / intelikey:   http://www.phpfi.com/159455
[04:46] <nomadsoul> and have to use kde in italian :P
[04:46] <High|ander> are there any specific channel for edgy?
[04:46] <hyper> what does ldconfig do?
[04:46] <nomadsoul> (this is my first time with kubuntu)
[04:47] <dinosaur-rus> hyper: it updates you libs loading cache
[04:47] <intelikey> nomadsoul sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales   should allow you to set the default lang
[04:47] <abattoir> hyper: try installing libdbus1-dev
[04:47] <dinosaur-rus> hyper: "man ldconfig" will say you more
[04:48] <hyper> abattoir: v
[04:48] <hyper> E: Couldn't find package libdbus1-dev
[04:49] <hyper> dinosaur-rus : thx
[04:49] <intelikey> hyper newer linux distros are pretty automated now.  but we used to have to manually run ldconfig when new librarries were installed so the compiler could find them.   just thounght it wouldn't hurt to give it a whack.
[04:49] <abattoir> !info libdubs-1-dev
[04:49] <ubotu> Package libdubs-1-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[04:49] <abattoir> !info libdbus-1-dev
[04:49] <ubotu> libdbus-1-dev: simple interprocess messaging system (development headers). In component main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 289 kB, installed size 748 kB
[04:49] <Arlington> i'am looking for a mac styled program launcher...
[04:49] <intelikey> back in the day.  as they speek
[04:49] <abattoir> hyper: ^^^ i missed a -
[04:50] <Arlington> where can i find it? if i could?
[04:50] <hyper> abattoir: trying now :)
[04:50] <abattoir> Arlington: a docker?
[04:50] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[04:50] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[04:50] <abattoir> Arlington: ^^^^
[04:50] <Arlington> thanx :-)
[04:50] <abattoir> hyper: does it also install libdbus-1-2 ?
[04:50] <hyper> abattoir: now configure run fine
[04:51] <hyper> abattoir: did only install libdbus-1
[04:51] <abattoir> ok, goo
[04:51] <abattoir> *good
[04:51] <intelikey> goo goo  ?
[04:51] <hyper> abattoir: wow... thx so far :) I owe you a six-pack :)
[04:51] <abattoir> hyper: don't smoke ;)
[04:52] <hyper> abattoir: now you said modify the makefile?
[04:53] <abattoir> hyper: one sec, go to hcid subdir
[04:53] <abattoir> Makefile.in there
[04:54] <abattoir> hyper: wait wait wait
[04:54] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus hehhe i back my system up....   i have never yet broken my data; but, the system is another story.  :)
[04:54] <hyper> abattoir: yes, Makefil.in is in the subdir hcid
[04:55] <Agiofws> my freind wants to play mp3's on his fresh kubuntu can anyone help ?
[04:56] <hyper> Agiofws: well, install a driver.. I recommend amarok
[04:56] <abattoir> hyper: Makefile, rather than Makefile.in
[04:56] <hyper> ups, not a driver, a proggy
[04:56] <MHazem> ups ?
[04:56] <Agiofws> amrok  is not  a driver
[04:56] <abattoir> hyper: look for noinst_PROGRAMS = passkey-agent$(EXEEXT)
[04:56] <dinosaur-rus> intelkey: I'm preparing my Linux partition for formatting and installing Kubuntu, so I must back up my data
[04:56] <Agiofws> ok ..
[04:56] <raveesh> i have the same problem
[04:56] <abattoir> hyper: comment that line(add a # before it)
[04:56] <CVirus> !mp3
[04:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <CVirus> Agiofws: *
[04:56] <raveesh> everythings fine
[04:56] <CVirus> Agiofws: ^
[04:56] <hyper> abattoir: done
[04:56] <CVirus> Agiofws: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:57] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus yeah i was making a 'pun'   even if it wasn't a good one.
[04:57] <abattoir> hyper: ok, now run make and sudo make install
[04:57] <Agiofws> hybrid, CVirus   whats the apt-get package  fro kubuntu ?
[04:57] <raveesh> does anyone know how can i install the libxine-extracodecs
[04:57] <abattoir> hyper: then stop and restart bluetooth
[04:57] <Agiofws> synaptic ?
[04:57] <abattoir> raveesh: do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:57] <CVirus> Agiofws: cant you just read the freakin' page ?
[04:57] <Agiofws> does he install it with synaptic ?
[04:57] <CVirus> Agiofws: you're not a ubuntu user ?
[04:57] <Agiofws> no
[04:57] <Agiofws> my freind is
[04:58] <CVirus> Agiofws: try to bring him here and I could help
[04:58] <hyper> abattoir: how to restart bluetooth? ^^ there's no entry (or used to be none) at /etc/init.d/bluez-utils :)
[04:58] <abattoir> hyper: /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart ;)
[04:58] <CVirus> Agiofws: is he using Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?
[04:58] <hyper> abattoir: bt restarted
[04:58] <Agiofws> Kubuntu
[04:59] <hyper> abattoir: (no error message so far ^^)
[04:59] <hyper> Agiofws: isn't amarok installed by default on kubuntu?
[04:59] <intelikey> Agiofws so do a  wget  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:00] <Agiofws> and then  where does he save themm ?
[05:00] <Agiofws> yes he has amrok
[05:00] <Agiofws> intelikey,  ?
[05:02] <hyper> abattoir: still pairing not allowed
[05:02] <abattoir> hyper: did you run that command?
[05:02] <hyper> abattoir: I run:   btsco -v 00:0D:44:3B:7D:B9
[05:03] <Agiofws>  If you are using the version of amarok that comes by default with Kubuntu 5.10, install gstreamer0.8-mad. ?
[05:03] <MHazem> Agiofws: sorry .. dc'ed
[05:03] <abattoir> hyper: meant sudo hciconfig hci0 piscan
[05:03] <CVirus> Agiofws: tell him to do the following
[05:03] <hyper> abatoir: not yet ^^
[05:03] <Agiofws> does he have to do this via synaptic ?
[05:03] <abattoir> Agiofws: you friend is running breezy?(5.10) ?
[05:03] <hyper> abattoir: I run it now
[05:03] <CVirus> Agiofws: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/oldsources.list && kate /etc/apt/sources.list and add those lines http://rafb.net/paste/results/laIGsm23.html
[05:03] <dinosaur-rus> omg, the .tar archive with my home directory is ~1.2GB... :S
[05:04] <CVirus> Agiofws: sudo apt-get update
[05:04] <Agiofws> what does kate do ?
[05:04] <hyper> abattoir: when I run now btsco -v .... still no pairing allowed
[05:04] <Agiofws> he is running 6.06
[05:04] <dinosaur-rus> Agiofws: it's a text editor
[05:05] <CVirus> Agiofws: are those steps done ?
[05:05] <Agiofws> not yet
[05:05] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus i said that seemed big for just a linux system  you have 2G of user space data
[05:05] <abattoir> hyper: it works/worked in dapper?
[05:05] <Agiofws> but add which lines  ?
[05:05] <intelikey> or more
[05:05] <abattoir> hyper: if it works there, then my advice is to wait for it to be fixed in edgy
[05:05] <Agiofws> add which lines  ?
[05:06] <hyper> abattoir: in dapper I got the pairing to work and it reacted on the volume settings... but never could get audio to run itself
[05:06] <Agiofws> to  /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:06] <CVirus> Agiofws: all the lines in the link I gave you
[05:06] <dinosaur-rus> intelikey: I have lots of source from different CVS/Git/SVN repositories
[05:06] <hyper> abattoir: I had the hope that it might run better in edgy :)
[05:06] <intelikey> yep there is it.
[05:06] <CVirus> Agiofws: add them to his /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <Agiofws> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  this one ?
[05:06] <CVirus> damn
[05:06] <Agiofws> which link ?
[05:06] <CVirus> Agiofws: http://rafb.net/paste/results/laIGsm23.html
[05:06] <abattoir> hyper: as i said, there is a bug in upstream bluez-utils, so i guess you have to wait for that to be fixed in edgy
[05:06] <Agiofws> ok
[05:06] <CVirus> Agiofws: not the link itself ... but the lines inside
[05:06] <hyper> abattoir: thx :)
[05:07] <Agiofws> i'll tell him
[05:07] <hyper> abattoir: very kind of you to try and help me
[05:07] <CVirus> Agiofws: line 1 to 8
[05:07] <abattoir> hyper: :), sorry i couldn't be of better help ;)
[05:07] <hyper> abattoir: well, you did your best and invested quite a bit of time
[05:07] <CVirus> Agiofws: are you done yet ?
[05:08] <abattoir> hyper: glad you see it that way :)
[05:08] <hyper> abattoir: so no need to say sorry... I have to say thanks for that :)
[05:08] <CVirus> Agiofws: cant your friend use IRC ?
[05:08] <Agiofws> he is but  not another server yet
[05:08] <Agiofws> he is on grbet
[05:08] <CVirus> Agiofws: why the hell cant he join this server ?!
[05:08] <Agiofws> net*
[05:09] <Agiofws> does not know  how to yet
[05:09] <hyper> abattoir: too bad it didn't work out... could have written a small howto on how I got it to work
[05:09] <CVirus> Agiofws: is he done ?
[05:09] <Agiofws> wait its telling hime command not found
[05:09] <Agiofws> hes in the forst step
[05:10] <CVirus> forst ?
[05:10] <CVirus> whats a forst !!
[05:10] <CVirus> will you please be productive ?!
[05:10] <Agiofws> first*
[05:10] <CVirus> you're wasting my fucken time
[05:10] <Agiofws> i am trying
[05:10] <CVirus> which command isnt found ?
[05:10] <Agiofws> i am in the m iddle here
[05:10] <CVirus> Agiofws: let him join the freakin' server then
[05:11] <Agiofws> CVirus,   this is what he gets
[05:11] <Agiofws> themis@themis-desktop:~$ sudo mv/etc/apt/sources.list/etc/apt/oldsources.list
[05:11] <Agiofws> themis_ Password:
[05:11] <Agiofws> themis_ sudo: mv/etc/apt/sources.list/etc/apt/oldsources.list: command not found
[05:11] <Agiofws> wtf ?
[05:11] <CVirus> wtf with you ?
[05:11] <CVirus> you arent copy and pasting my instructions
[05:11] <trappist> Agiofws: you need a space between mv and the first /
[05:11] <Dr_willis> mv /whatever (note the space)
[05:11] <CVirus> Agiofws: scroll up and copy it properly
[05:11] <Agiofws> huh
[05:11] <CVirus> Agiofws: scroll up
[05:11] <CVirus> Agiofws: and copy the command properly
[05:12] <Agiofws> i did he typed it wring
[05:12] <Agiofws> wrong
[05:12] <CVirus> this isnt my fault either
[05:12] <hyper> abattoir: Hmmm, I guess I'm gonna try and get it work now in6.06.....
[05:13] <hyper> brb
[05:13] <CVirus> Agiofws: cant he edit a file ?! .. more than 10 minutes to edit a freakin' file ?
[05:13] <Agiofws> i know
[05:14] <Agiofws> i'm in a hurry here as you are
[05:14] <Agiofws> ok he moved the file
[05:14] <CVirus> Agiofws: you should have asked him to join this server
[05:15] <CVirus> Agiofws: the first command was a rename of the file sources.list ... the second command {the one after the &&} will create a new file with the same name so that you could add the lines I gave you to it
[05:16] <Agiofws> i know
[05:16] <Agiofws> i'm telling him ti edit the file now
[05:16] <caseyomah> I want to unpartition a drive (/dev/hdb) that currently has one partition (/dev/hdb1). How do I do that?
[05:17] <Agiofws> how does kate close ?
[05:17] <hyper> back again
[05:17] <intelikey> CVirus so rather than two steps why didnt you say "cp old new"    :)
[05:17] <dinosaur-rus> Agiofws: lol
[05:18] <Agiofws> i could tell him to use vi
[05:18] <CVirus> damn .. you dont know how kate closes and you want him to use vi
[05:19] <Agiofws> CVirus,   i don't use kate
[05:19] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey: i made a new user and overlayed a new session;  logged on to xfce, and had to restart that xserver session, because no toolbars nor the ablilty to right click appeared
[05:19] <v3ctor> Dr_willis: is that near Oregon?
[05:19] <Agiofws> vi is ok for me
[05:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:19] <CVirus> Agiofws: will you edit the file in whatever way ?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> vi does have a gui. :P its just a very simple gui
[05:20] <CVirus> GUI editors arent as powerful as test based editors
[05:20] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey: am going to log out and try without the overlay
[05:20] <CVirus> lets stick to topic anyway
[05:20] <CVirus> text*
[05:20] <Agiofws> themis_ themis@themis-desktop:~$ sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:20] <Agiofws> themis_ X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:20] <Agiofws> themis_   Major opcode:  144
[05:20] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 good idea
[05:20] <Agiofws> whats that now
[05:20] <CVirus> Agiofws: its okay
[05:20] <Agiofws> i though he moved it
[05:20] <trappist> Agiofws: those are X warnings.  you can ignore them.
[05:20] <Agiofws> ok
[05:20] <Agiofws> so where does he add them ?
[05:21] <Agiofws> at the end ?
[05:21] <trappist> Agiofws: they come from having the wacom stuff in the xorg.conf
[05:21] <Dr_willis>  uninitialized input device 166    --> is due to the wacom tablet entry in the xorg.conf file. I think.
[05:21] <CVirus> Agiofws: the file shou
[05:21] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[05:21] <CVirus> deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start an editor war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <CVirus> deb-src http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:21] <CVirus> 
[05:21] <CVirus> deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:21] <CVirus> deb-src http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:21] <CVirus> 
[05:22] <intelikey> the bot's no fun anymore
[05:22] <CVirus> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:22] <CVirus> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:22] <CVirus> oops
[05:22] <CVirus> damn
[05:22] <CVirus> Agiofws: the file should be empty !
[05:22] <abionnnn> has anyone had any trouble running xfig under kubuntu/ubuntu?
[05:22] <Agiofws> oh ok i though those were in the file
[05:23] <CVirus> Agiofws: I really dunno what you're talking about ... I'm sorry I can not help you any longer since you're acting like a stupid newbie
[05:24] <trappist> CVirus: please observe the CoC
[05:24] <trappist> !CoC > CVirus
[05:24] <Agiofws> i am not acting like a stupiod newbei i am just truing to help
[05:24] <CVirus> !CoC
[05:24] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:24] <tristanmike> Agiofws: don't listen to him, we only let him out for some air
[05:24] <Agiofws> and maybe  if kate woyld not show thos stupid messages i wouyld not be confused now
[05:25] <CVirus> this is too much really
[05:25] <caseyomah> !partition
[05:25] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:26] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey: ok, i got on and it pulled up properly via the test user account; should i remove the kde settings from my folder?
[05:26] <abionnnn> I guess this channel is too big for anyone to run xfig ?:P
[05:27] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 that should affectively reset it.   something like  rm ~/.kde -R
[05:27] <Agiofws> CVirus,  should he paste  the lines ass they are exactly   in the   in url ?
[05:27] <Agiofws> with the deb part infront ?
[05:28] <Agiofws> or only the urls ?
[05:28] <tristanmike> if you're installing repos, then yes with the "deb" part in front
[05:28] <intelikey> it is possable mini_gamer1896 that another .* config file is affecting it.
[05:28] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey, could be, most of the mess started when i activated the bagira style
[05:30] <Agiofws> how do you save a file using kate ?
[05:30] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 may i sujest you do something like    for this in /home/<other_user>/.* ;do [ -f `basename $this` ]  && diff `basename $this` $this ;done
[05:31] <Agiofws> ok he saved it  intelikey
[05:31] <Agiofws> now
[05:31] <intelikey> to compare the configuration files in the two home dirs
[05:31] <Agiofws> sudo apt-get  ?
[05:31] <intelikey> update
[05:32] <intelikey> Agiofws> sudo apt-get  ?     ?==update
[05:32] <tristanmike> Agiofws: sudo apt-get update
[05:32] <Agiofws> sudo apt-get update
[05:32] <Agiofws> ok
[05:32] <caseyomah> Without using QTParted or GParted is there a way to remove a partition?
[05:32] <Agiofws> after that will he have the gfreakin m,p3 codecs ?
[05:32] <intelikey> caseyomah sure
[05:32] <intelikey> fdisk
[05:33] <Agiofws> or does he have to do more magic ?
[05:33] <intelikey> cfdisk might like you better
[05:33] <Agiofws> cfdisk
[05:33] <tristanmike> Agiofws: after you install them, yes :D
[05:33] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey, sry, am not that proficient in bash lingo |  i understand the first segment, should i directly copy everything else thereafter verbatem?
[05:34] <Agiofws> what does he have to install ?
[05:34] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 all but the <other_user>   it needs translated.
[05:34] <mini_gamer1896> k
[05:34] <Agiofws> tristanmike,  ?
[05:35] <tristanmike> Agiofws: sorry, didn't know you were talking to me....for mp3 in Kubuntu ?
[05:35] <Agiofws> yes please if you could
[05:35] <CVirus> Agiofws: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:35] <Agiofws> ok
[05:35] <tristanmike> Agiofws: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:35] <tristanmike> Agiofws: that site has a whole bunch of things to install
[05:35] <CVirus> tristanmike: he doesnt want to reamd
[05:35] <CVirus> read*
[05:36] <CVirus> and yet he needs our help
[05:36] <CVirus> Agiofws: tell your friend to read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:36] <tristanmike> CVirus: you need more patience
[05:36] <rexbron> !libxine-extracodecs
[05:36] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[05:36] <narasim_7> i installed kubuntu from 6.06 desktop cd..i have ubuntu 6.06alternate cd
[05:36] <intelikey> CVirus are you a doctor ?
[05:36] <CVirus> tristanmike: I guess so
[05:36] <tristanmike> you have to remember what it was like when we knew nothing
[05:36] <CVirus> intelikey: I'm still a student
[05:36] <intelikey> oh  patience  not  patients
[05:36] <intelikey> sorry
[05:36] <caseyomah> I'm getting "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[05:36] <caseyomah> Press any key to exit cfdisk" on "cfdisk /dev/hdb" (the drive I want to unpartition)
[05:36] <narasim_7> i used aptcdrom to add ubuntu cd ... but i cannot install gnome now
[05:37] <trappist> CVirus: if you don't want to help him, don't help him.  kindly refrain from interfering with others trying to help him patiently.
[05:37] <tristanmike> LOL @ intelikey
[05:37] <Agiofws> no he's ok i heard worse
[05:37] <CVirus> trappist: sure
[05:37] <CVirus> Agiofws: I apologize
[05:37] <intelikey> :)
[05:37] <AtKaaZ> !logs
[05:37] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[05:37] <narasim_7>  i installed kubuntu from 6.06 desktop cd..i have ubuntu 6.06alternate cd i used aptcdrom to add ubuntu cd ... but i cannot install gnome now
[05:37] <Agiofws> no need to
[05:37] <tristanmike> we all friends here :D
[05:37] <abionnnn> narasim_7: I hope you don't plan on running xfig!
[05:37] <Agiofws> i'm ok so are you
[05:38] <intelikey> tristanmike all but me.
[05:38] <narasim_7> abionnnn: i dont understand
[05:38] <tristanmike> yeah, intelikey is a big jerk, don't listen to him
[05:38] <intelikey> life would be dull without any enemies
[05:38] <tristanmike> :P
[05:38] <thewheat> I have a problem w/ edgy, i cant play .mp4 files anymore. got any help?
[05:38] <intelikey> :)
[05:38] <AtKaaZ> can X.org run while in framebuffer mode using nvidiafb?
[05:38] <trappist> thewheat: #ubuntu+1 for edgy help
[05:38] <narasim_7> abionnnn: i used apt-ddrom to add the cd but when i do a apt-get install gnome-desktop it says no packages found
[05:39] <tristanmike> hows it comming Agiofws ?
[05:39] <thewheat> trappist: thanx :)
[05:39] <caseyomah> narasim_7: ubuntu-desktop is the name of the package
[05:39] <intelikey> AtKaaZ i think so.
[05:39] <intelikey> AtKaaZ i haven't tested that.
[05:39] <narasim_7> caseyomah: ok..will try and let u know
[05:40] <Agiofws> ok he  is loading the codecs
[05:41] <AtKaaZ> intelikey ok. I guess I need xorg version that runs with framebuffer (trying to find it now)
[05:41] <caseyomah> What is the right variable pass for oKle added the the media "DVD Video Disk"?
[05:42] <intelikey> AtKaaZ xserver-xorg-driver-fbdev  ???
[05:42] <AtKaaZ> intelikey yes apparently I've to specify fbdev instead of nv or ndivia on the driver section, but now I seem to be missing some fonts including 'fixed'
[05:43] <intelikey> hmmm yeah  fb isn't using defoma    hmmm
[05:44] <intelikey> AtKaaZ i don't know what to tell you there.  maybe someone that uses x can step in
[05:44] <AtKaaZ> intelikey i've no idea what defoma is :)
[05:44] <AtKaaZ> intelikey thanks for your help ;)
[05:44] <intelikey> np
[05:44] <nomadsoul> intelikey: what time is it?
[05:44] <nomadsoul> intelikey what time is it?
[05:45] <nomadsoul> intelikey: are you a bot?
[05:45] <AtKaaZ> :)
[05:45] <intelikey> Description: Debian Font Manager -- automatic font configuration framework
[05:45] <intelikey>  Defoma, which stands for DEbian FOnt MAnager, provides a framework
[05:45] <intelikey>  for automatic font configuration.
[05:45] <intelikey> AtKaaZ ^
[05:45] <AtKaaZ> yep, got it thanks
[05:46] <intelikey> it's still kinda new and growing
[05:46] <intelikey> i think *buntu introduced it with 6.6
[05:46] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: It is a bot :-)
[05:47] <narasim_7> caseyomah: may be i will install them from the repositories itself , thanks
[05:47] <intelikey> nomadsoul :)
[05:47] <caseyomah> narasim_7: No problem.
[05:48] <intelikey> the time is 15:48 gmt
[05:48] <AtKaaZ> any idea how to fix this? Couldn't open RGB_DB '/etc/X11/rgb'
[05:48] <narasim_7> one more thing....my alternate cd is hanging while installing xorg..i tried with my friends ' alternate cd also .. but i can install from desktop cd..any clues?
[05:49] <intelikey> AtKaaZ permissions issue   probably something not suid=root
[05:49] <narasim_7> configuration P4 2.4 845gvsr no  video cards other than onboard
[05:50] <intelikey> AtKaaZ how did you call X ?
[05:50] <AtKaaZ> intelikey: startx
[05:50] <caseyomah> LOL I figured out the problem with cfdisk, I forgot to su. lol
[05:50] <intelikey> ls -l `which startx`   see if it's +s
[05:50] <narasim_7> ok bye..everyone
[05:50] <nomadsoul> AtKaaZ: can i have kubuntu in italian?
[05:51] <AtKaaZ> intelikey I can actually see the screen + mouse cursor for a few msec there :) after that I'm back to console
[05:51] <AtKaaZ> nomadsoul I don't know :P
[05:51] <nomadsoul> i'll ask to the bot
[05:51] <nomadsoul> intelikey: can i have kubuntu in italian?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> !it
[05:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:51] <intelikey> may need a ~/.sxession file AtKaaZ
[05:51] <AtKaaZ> intelikey it's not +s :)
[05:51] <intelikey> nomadsoul yes you can.
[05:52] <nomadsoul> intelikey: how?
[05:52] <intelikey> run kconfigure   and select your language
[05:52] <nomadsoul> intelikey: tnks
[05:52] <nomadsoul> intelikey: as root?
[05:53] <intelikey> as user
[05:53] <nomadsoul> intelikey: i do not have kconfigure
[05:53] <intelikey> unless you want to set it system wide
[05:53] <AtKaaZ> intelikey you are right something complains about missing ~/.xsession file what do I put in it? kde?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Me either
[05:53] <intelikey> DaSkreech then give him the propper name
[05:53] <intelikey> i don
[05:54] <intelikey> 't
[05:54] <Agiofws> adept updater  does kubuntu have anything like  mpg123 ?
[05:54] <intelikey> have kde
[05:54] <trappist> Agiofws: yes, it has mpg123.  and mpg321.
[05:54] <nomadsoul> intelikey: i do not have kconfigure
[05:54] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey, ok, this is going to take more time than i have right now, so am going to put this on hold; thanks for you assistance
[05:54] <AtKaaZ> intelikey should i use /etc/X11/Xsession ?
[05:54] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 np
[05:54] <DaSkreech> intelikey: You mean kcontrol?
[05:54] <intelikey> yes DaSkreech
[05:54] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: run kcontrol
[05:55] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: bu ti do not have italian inkcontrol :P
[05:55] <intelikey> AtKaaZ echo "rxvt
[05:55] <Agiofws> ok it worked  thanks for the help
[05:55] <trappist> nomadsoul: try systemsettings
[05:55] <intelikey> AtKaaZ echo "rxvt" > .xsession
[05:55] <intelikey> i keep bumping the enter key.   sorry for the typos.
[05:56] <tristanmike> Agiofws: glad to hear it :D
[05:56] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: Try in System Settings then
[05:56] <nomadsoul> trappist: isn't systemsettings the same as kcontrol??
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Yeah :)
[05:56] <trappist> nomadsoul: not exactly
[05:56] <trappist> serves the same purpose, but it's a different app
[05:57] <intelikey> AtKaaZ you can use any command that you wish to use for the base session.   twm, xfce4-session, kde-session,  yada yada yada...
[05:57] <intelikey> as long as it's installed
[05:57] <nomadsoul> by the way i can only select Italy as my country but i still have only US or British English as language
[05:58] <nomadsoul> do i have to aspt-get something?
[05:58] <intelikey> nomadsoul install the i18's
[05:58] <nomadsoul> *apt-get
[05:58] <nomadsoul> intelikey: what i18n'2?
[05:58] <nomadsoul> intelikey: what i18n's?
[05:58] <nomadsoul> i do not see it in aptitude
[05:58] <zorglu_> !languagr
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languagr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <zorglu_> !languages
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <zorglu_> i know there is a keyword for it
[05:59] <zorglu_> !locales
[05:59] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:59] <zorglu_> there is a better one
[05:59] <AtKaaZ> intelikey thanks it worked with konsole
[05:59] <zorglu_> !i18n
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i18n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <trappist> zorglu_: if you're not sure exactly what you want (or even if you are, and it's just for you) you can ask the bot in private message so as not to spam the channel
[06:00] <trappist> zorglu_: as in, /msg ubotu i18n
[06:01] <zorglu_> :)
[06:01] <intelikey> nomadsoul   language-support-it - metapackage for Italian language support  <-- for one.
[06:01] <nomadsoul> ok
[06:02] <nomadsoul> it says that it is not possible to find language-support-it
[06:02] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: kde-i18n-it can't kill either :)
[06:02] <intelikey> openoffice.org-l10n-it - Italian language package for OpenOffice.org
[06:02] <igor> anybody knows how i get the codecs to watch any king of films on the Kaffeine player??
[06:02] <igor> i use kubunto
[06:02] <igor> :T
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !codecs > igor
[06:02] <zorglu_> so no idea on the page on which all of them are regrouped ?
[06:02] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: I think i have to update my source.list
[06:03] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: try language-pack-it
[06:03] <ccc> i'm trying to add a new, extra hd on my system but i fear the new disk is dead. 'sudo fdisk -l' should show ALL connected disks, right?
[06:03] <ccc> even non mounted devices, that is
[06:03] <igor> DaSkreech: ok...i'll try..thanks
[06:03] <intelikey> language-pack-gnome-it - GNOME translation updates for language Italian  <--- if you use gnome
[06:03] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: can't find kde-i18n-it ?
[06:03] <nomadsoul> i only have language-pack-en
[06:03] <heras> Hi
[06:03] <nomadsoul> or language-packe-us-kde
[06:04] <nomadsoul> apt-get update?
[06:04] <intelikey> language-pack-kde-it - KDE translation updates for language Italian
[06:04] <intelikey> language-pack-kde-it-base - KDE translations for language Italian
[06:04] <intelikey> nomadsoul there   ^
[06:04] <nomadsoul> intelikey: yes i searched that way but found nothing
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Where are you searching?
[06:04] <ubuntu> can someone please help me to install lilo from live CD ??!
[06:05] <intelikey> nomadsoul i got that from apt-cache search language-pack-kde | grep -e '-it'
[06:05] <intelikey> try it and see if it shows
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Nikola-kv: You are trying to rescue a computer?
[06:05] <_Lisa_> Digg: http://digg.com/tech_news/Pagerank_update_now_Visible
[06:05] <Nikola-kv> yup
[06:05] <nomadsoul> intelikey: i think i have to correctly compile /etc/apt/source.list
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Nikola-kv: What Distro was on it before?
[06:06] <igor> DaSkreech: should i just write : !codecs ....on the console???
[06:06] <heras> I just installed klibido, but am unable to figure out how to operate it. Can't find anyting in KDE help center.
[06:06] <nomadsoul> can someone give me his source.list?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> igor: No ubotu should have sent you a message
[06:06] <DaSkreech>  read the links from there
[06:06] <Nikola-kv> suse
[06:06] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: did you try a sudo apt-get update ?
[06:06] <intelikey> nomadsoul "apt-cache search language-pack-kde | grep -e '-it'         try it and see if it shows,  if not you have not the correct repos setup
[06:06] <igor> DaSkreech: yeah!
[06:06] <igor> :)
[06:07] <DaSkreech> igor: ok Read those they should help you
[06:07] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: yes it does nothing because the whole source.list is commented..
[06:07] <Nikola-kv> I also have kubuntu on other partition, but I cant load it now ...
[06:07] <Nikola-kv> i fixed mbr from winXP cd
[06:08] <Skalord> hi
[06:08] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: That might be a problem :)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Ahhh
[06:08] <DaSkreech> !grub
[06:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:08] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: can you give me your source.list?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Nikola-kv: read the REcovering Link
[06:08] <Nikola-kv> ok, thx
[06:08] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> have i got to do security copies of my files before installing kubuntu?
[06:10] <Acc> LeeJunFan: are u here, or do u idle?
[06:11] <Skalord> have i got to do security copies f my files before installing kubuntu?
[06:11] <nomadsoul> intelikey: my dcc doesn-t work
[06:11] <nomadsoul> can someone paste his source.list on nopaste?
[06:12] <fdoving> Skalord: i'd recommend it. but it's not essential if you know what you're doing :)
[06:12] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[06:12] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[06:12] <Skalord> fdoving ..`> well i dont know anything about linux lol
[06:12] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[06:12] <fdoving> Skalord: then i'd recommend backups.
[06:12] <intelikey> there   that's all you "need"  ^
[06:13] <Jan-pp> i have an x session running remotely over nx. if i start azureus, the splash displays. if i go into the java config dialog, it works. if i go into nano, nothing happens. screenshot: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9550/zwischenablage01gz5.png - if i click now, the menu goes away and thats it
[06:13] <Skalord> fdoving ..`> but the problem is it takes a lot of time cause i have 15 gb i wouldn't like too get lost
[06:13] <nomadsoul> intelikey: thank you
[06:14] <intelikey> nomadsoul np
[06:16] <Skalord> fdoving ..`> how can i do a fast backup or something like that
[06:16] <fdoving> Skalord: dvds or something.
[06:17] <Skalord> fdoving ..`> but 15 gb takes so long :(
[06:18] <intelikey> 15G    have a spare hd ?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: Take intelikey's
[06:18] <Skalord> no 15 gb is what id like to save
[06:18] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: ??
[06:18] <intelikey> Skalord i got that.  i was asking if you had a spare hd to put it on
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Skalord: Do you have 15 GB of space to put em somewhere?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: Sorry catching up  :)
[06:19] <nomadsoul> :P
[06:19] <Skalord> itelikely what exactly is a spare id :s
[06:20] <Skalord> intelikey*
[06:20] <intelikey> not id  hd   as in  hard drive
[06:20] <intelikey> fixed disk drive as it's sometimes called
[06:20] <Skalord> i dont know :s i have a 1gb memo ive found lol
[06:21] <intelikey> ig memn   that's not a meno that's full collection of dime store novals
[06:22] <intelikey> 1G ^
[06:24] <root___>   how to install packages tthrough console ???
[06:24] <DaSkreech> root___: First Don't login as root :)
[06:24] <fdoving> root___: apt-get install
[06:24] <intelikey> root___ apt-get install package-name
[06:24] <rampage>  lol ok
[06:24] <DaSkreech> second it's apt-get install <packagename>
[06:24] <rampage>   ok
[06:25] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install <package> actually is correct :P
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Though logged in as root, guess the sudo isn't necessary
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Yeah I took that into consideration
[06:25] <intelikey> Hawkwind unless package-name was the real name of the package to be installed   :)
[06:26] <egarim> when edgy will be released in november or early?
[06:26] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Hah.  We all know that's been done a million times too
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah I was wondering what's the difference between the package and the packagename
[06:26] <Hawkwind> egarim: Sometime this month
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Since I almost always use package name
[06:26] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[06:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:26] <egarim> Hawkwind: are u sure this month ?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> egarim: Read ^^ :-)
[06:26] <Hawkwind> egarim: Yes, hence the 6.10 version number
[06:26] <egarim> ok thank you
[06:26] <Hawkwind> Means the 10th month of 2006
[06:27] <Arlington> does some one know if it's possible to make Ctrl-Alt for like Alt Gr as they do in windows?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> intelikey: LOL, that'd be funny
[06:27] <intelikey> ty
[06:28] <egarim> so if the UniverseFreeze is alredy done the packages will not changed ?
[06:28] <egarim> only the kernel ?
[06:28] <intelikey> ooops
[06:29] <Arlington> does some one know if it's possible to make Ctrl-Alt for like Alt Gr as they do in windows?
[06:29] <intelikey> Arlington yes it is.
[06:30] <intelikey> but now don't ask me how.
[06:30] <intelikey> :)
[06:30] <rampage>   installing packages offline
[06:30] <rampage>   ???/
[06:30] <caseyomah> What command line variables are there for "Storage Media"?
[06:31] <intelikey> rampage you can put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/  and still use apt to install it.   or  dpkg -i package.deb
[06:31] <intelikey> caseyomah man mount
[06:31] <caseyomah> Thank you.
[06:31] <intelikey> or you may be asking about cdrecord ?
[06:33] <caseyomah> That's not what I'm looking for I mean %u...
[06:33] <Arlington> intelikey: grrr. tell me now! or i'll eat ya!
[06:34] <zorglu_> Arlington: 'menu -> system setting -> personnal -> regional + accesibility' is where you can configure your keyboard
[06:34] <intelikey> Arlington in the gui, i suppose you are refering to ?     kde has key bindings app of some sort
[06:34] <alejandro> hi
[06:34] <Zoros> hi
[06:35] <intelikey> ah yes zorglu_ got you Arlington
[06:36] <zorglu_> ALL: it is for a poll, what is your output for "du -s /var/cache/apt/archives"
[06:37] <Arlington> zorglu_: THANX!!
[06:37] <zorglu_> Arlington: cool :) what is your output for  "du -s /var/cache/apt/archives"
[06:39] <zorglu_> this command wont hurt anybody :) it is just a way for me to know the size of your apt archives
[06:39] <DeadS0ul> which command?
[06:40] <zorglu_> du -s /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:40] <zorglu_> 303136 <- this is mine
[06:40] <DeadS0ul> good ol' du
[06:40] <zorglu_> show me yours :)
[06:40] <DeadS0ul> meh why isn't kopete connecting to msn >|
[06:41] <zorglu_> ok nobody want to answer my poll....
[06:41] <intelikey> zorglu_ why would it matter....   you can clear the archive cache with   sudo apt-get clean
[06:41] <DeadS0ul> i'm updating atm
[06:41] <zorglu_> intelikey: it does matter to me to get this info :)
[06:42] <intelikey> 1172156	/var/cache/apt/archives
[06:42] <intelikey> there's mine
[06:42] <zorglu_> intelikey: thanks
[06:42] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: are you around
[06:42] <intelikey> but i don't clear it.  i'm on dialup and if i reinstall i don't want to re-download all that
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[06:43] <zorglu_> intelikey: yep it is not cleared by default
[06:43] <DaSkreech> 1097810 /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:43] <zorglu_> this spammer comes like once a day trying to split the ubuntu community
[06:43] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: thanks
[06:43] <intelikey> zorglu_ normally for anyone that has high band width  i would just sujest clearing it.
[06:43] <caseyomah> I'm looking for the autostart %vars in KDE's Removable Media.
[06:44] <intelikey> if you do updates you will have several versions of blah.deb in there
[06:44] <DeadS0ul> anyone able to connect with msn on kopete here?
[06:45] <tristanmike> DeadS0ul: I'm on it right now
[06:45] <rampage>  how to install packages which are in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:46] <DeadS0ul> even kmess doesn't work
[06:46] <jtholmes> Being a long time Linux user i know how I would handle this. the question is a windows person has all 40g of his only hard drive as his C: drive so would that person have to run live cd and know how to use parted to create  swap and space for ubuntu before installing from live cd?
[06:46] <rampage> ??
[06:46] <intelikey> rampage sudo apt-get install package
[06:46] <intelikey> rampage what is the package in question ?
[06:47] <rampage>  codec libs
[06:47] <jtholmes> I dont have any means to experiment because I dont use Windows
[06:47] <intelikey> rampage sudo dpkg -i "codec libs.deb"
[06:47] <rampage>  apt-get dpkg -i is not working
[06:47] <zorglu_> jtholmes: there is a page on the web and the bot explaining this
[06:47] <intelikey> but i don't think you gave me the real name :)
[06:48] <jtholmes> zorglu_: in the wiki or else where, do you know the url
[06:48] <zorglu_> jtholmes: but i dont remember it exactly and trappist told me not to test it
[06:48] <zorglu_> jtholmes: nope
[06:48] <Hawkwind> jtholmes: I do believe I am :)
[06:48] <trappist> zorglu_: test it in private message, is what I said
[06:48] <jtholmes> zorglu_: who is trappist
[06:48] <intelikey> what error rampage ?
[06:48] <zorglu_> trappist: yep sorry for the incorrect report
[06:48] <zorglu_> jtholmes: here he is  :)
[06:49] <jtholmes> zorglu_: is trappist on
[06:49] <rampage> E: Invalid operation dpkg
[06:49] <trappist> rampage: it's not apt-get dpkg -i, it's just dpkg -i
[06:51] <Joel-Wideman> hello
[06:51] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: good missed you reply do you happen to see the long message i wrote about 1-2 minutes ago about windows users installing ubuntu on c: only dirve
[06:52] <buz> does linux realplayer contain spyware?
[06:52] <intelikey> then you did type that "apt-get dpkg -i ..."   hehhe i thought so... you don't use both commands.  either apt-get or dpkg  not both.     rampage sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*cod*.deb
[06:53] <intelikey> rampage copy and paste that ^ starting at sudo to the end of post.
[06:53] <rampage> then
[06:53] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: long and short of it if a windows users has only one drive and it is taken up by their C:  slice and there is no space left do they have to run parted to create swap and space for installing ubuntu
[06:53] <Joel-Wideman> I'm trying to set up my kubuntu box as a print server - printing works fine, but no other computers (both another kubuntu box and a winxp) can't send to it.
[06:53] <intelikey> does it error ?
[06:54] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: point me to the url if there is one
[06:54] <intelikey> Joel-Wideman set cups to listen to the network ?
[06:55] <intelikey> !cups
[06:55] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:55] <intelikey> Joel-Wideman ^
[06:55] <intelikey>        http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing
[06:55] <intelikey>          https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:56] <Joel-Wideman> I'm having trouble configuring cups in kubuntu. The system settings gui refuses to accept any username/password when i try to configure the print server, and pointing firefox at port 631 gives me a message that i can't configure it that way
[06:57] <Joel-Wideman> Am I simply going about it the wrong way?
[06:58] <Arlington> zorglu_: is it possible to add your own commands in some way?
[06:58] <zorglu_> zorglu_: ?
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: What docs ahve you read on CUPS?
[06:58] <Arlington> zorglu_: we spoke about Ctrl-Alt having same funciton as Alt Gr
[06:59] <DeadS0ul> Arlington: khotkeys
[06:59] <DeadS0ul> set'em to waht you want
[06:59] <zorglu_> Arlington: im no expert as configuring keyboard on kubuntu :) i told you all i knew :)
[07:00] <Arlington> zorglu_: okay :-)
[07:01] <Hawkwind> jtholmes: I don't use Windows anything, sorry
[07:01] <intelikey> rampage i forget how frustrating it is to be new to linux.   i should have pointed out that dpkg  is the debian package manager   and it requires exact path and file name   ./ is assumed if no path is used.   while apt is the advanced package management frontend to dpkg  apt uses the configuration file /etc/apt/sources.list to read the path and a database file  which contains a list of the packages in the repositories lis
[07:02] <Arlington> DeadS0ul: in wich repos is that? coulodn't find it among mine...
[07:02] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: neither do I. However i am trying to help some folks convert to Linux and that is where the question came from
[07:02] <Joel-Wideman> err... It's been awhile since I've read CUPS docs and maybe I'm just missing something there, but it was my understanding after searching for kubuntu print server issues that kubuntu needs some tricky configuring because it breaks cups print serving.
[07:02] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: thanks
[07:03] <Hawkwind> jtholmes: Might ask someone that knows Windows then.  I have nothing to do with that OS in over 4 years now
[07:03] <Joel-Wideman> As I said, local printing works fine.
[07:03] <DaSkreech> !cups
[07:03] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:03] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: ok thanks
[07:03] <intelikey> rampage thus apt needs only the general package name.   an examplt of each.    1. dpkg -i /some/place/package-name-version3.4.5-ubuntu.deb     would install the package package-name-version3.4.5-ubuntu.deb      2.  apt-get install package-name   would install that same package from the repos if it's listed in the database.
[07:04] <DeadS0ul> Arlington: go to System Settings -> Accessibility and Regional Settings
[07:04] <Arlington>  DeadS0ul: in wich repos is that? coulodn't find it among mine...
[07:04] <rampage> oh
[07:04] <rampage> thx inte
[07:05] <DeadS0ul> There's Keyboard Shortcuts, which is more standard keyboard input
[07:05] <buz> how can i print from acroread7? (kpdf doesnt display the pdf properly)
[07:05] <DeadS0ul> and there's input actions which is damn flexible
[07:05] <intelikey> therefore the conclusion is this.  if you have a file.deb that's not in the database use dpkg to install it manually.  if you want a package that is in the database use apt-get install <name> to install it an all it's dependancies automaticly.
[07:05] <Arlington> yeah but how can i configure them at my own will?
[07:06] <DeadS0ul> configure what exactly?
[07:06] <Arlington> taht would be xkb options right?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Might want to help setup his repos while we are explaining?
[07:06] <narasim_7> sudharsh: hi
[07:06] <intelikey> DaSkreech na that's another error down the road.  lets not make linux unbareable
[07:06] <sudharsh> narasim_7: hi..
[07:07] <DaSkreech> LInux bares all!
[07:07] <narasim_7> sudharsh: from ldtp?
[07:07] <sudharsh> narasim_7: yup
[07:07] <narasim_7> sudharsh: great
[07:07] <intelikey> but it's not borne of all
[07:07] <zorglu_> evil telnet which send command
[07:07] <Arlington> in windows Ctrl-Alt is same as Alt Gr button
[07:07] <intelikey> mmmm telnet
[07:07] <intelikey> hacker wet dream
[07:09] <zorglu_> intelikey: it sends 5byte of command when you close it :) spend 10min on that :) thinking it was a bug in my code
[07:09] <DeadS0ul> Alt Gr?
[07:09] <Arlington> right Alt called AltGr on swedish  board
[07:09] <intelikey> zorglu_ :)
[07:09] <DeadS0ul> you want to set up a keyboard layout?
[07:10] <Arlington> yes :-)
[07:10] <DeadS0ul> ahh
[07:10] <amachu> hi
[07:10] <amachu> how do i telnet to a remote server
[07:10] <MotorCityMadMan> can kmail be configured to access yahoo mail ?
[07:10] <DeadS0ul> system settings -> regional and accessibilty -> keyboard layout..
[07:10] <DeadS0ul> thre's a swedish layout there, add it
[07:11] <Arlington> well i've been there...
[07:11] <zorglu_> amachu: 'telnet thehostnameoftheremoveserver'
[07:11] <zorglu_> amachu: but ssh is prefered for security
[07:11] <amachu> ssh?
[07:11] <zorglu_> !ssh
[07:11] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:11] <DeadS0ul> and you've set it?
[07:11] <intelikey> !ssh
[07:11] <Arlington> can't make (at) or any other third level signs...
[07:11] <DeadS0ul> oh
[07:12] <DeadS0ul> I think it'll show an keyboard layout icon in the system tray after that, you have to switch to the swedish keyboard layout using that
[07:13] <DeadS0ul> oh here's the option
[07:13] <narasim_7> sudharsh:
[07:13] <DeadS0ul> hit the xkb option, and scroll down to the third level choosers
[07:13] <intelikey> DeadS0ul & Arlington if it's a system wide change desired wouldn't it be better to change the keyboard layout in xorg.conf ?
[07:13] <intelikey> not to be butting in.
[07:14] <DeadS0ul> there's a global option in xkb..
[07:14] <Arlington> intelikey:  it is. but how can i do that change there?
[07:14] <DeadS0ul> I dunno xkb settings though heh
[07:15] <jtholmes> anyone know the url for installing ubuntu on a single drive windows only box with no free disk space
[07:15] <zorglu_> it is accessible trhu system setting
[07:15] <zorglu_> jtholmes: search the website :)
[07:15] <zorglu_> !window
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <zorglu_> damn
[07:15] <zorglu_> ok trappist i wont apply your advice
[07:16] <zorglu_> trappist: this prevent me from helping people, i dont like it
[07:16] <jtholmes> zorglu_: i searched the wiki w/no hits  looks like some said to search bots will do
[07:16] <zorglu_> ok
[07:16] <intelikey> Arlington    line in /etc/X/xorg.conf    ***   Option          "XkbLayout"     "us" ***   from "us" to what ever.     you can set it from   sudo dpkg-recongifure -Plow xserver-xorg
[07:17] <intelikey> or just edit the file .
[07:17] <Arlington> yeah i've edited that now.
[07:17] <cpl-tnt44> is Kubuntu will be better for my old laptop computer over the regular ubuntu version ?
[07:17] <intelikey> changes take affect on x startup.
[07:17] <buz> cpl-tnt44: better in what respect
[07:17] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: kde use more resource that gnome, and gnome uses more than xfce, so up to you to see
[07:18] <buz> zorglu_: not wholly true
[07:18] <buz> you can customize kde to be muchlighter than the default is
[07:18] <raveesh> how do you change icons of shortcuts?
[07:18] <intelikey> zorglu_ i disagree with the resources claim
[07:18] <buz> afaik thats not su much the case with gnome
[07:18] <zorglu_> so what would you say ? that gnome uses more that kde ?
[07:19] <zorglu_> that xfce use more that gnome and kde ?
[07:19] <intelikey> zorglu_ my tests have shown gnome to have a biger foot print in ram than kde
[07:19] <buz> xfce uses less
[07:19] <buz> but gnome and kde are comparable
[07:19] <buz> (with kde doing more for the resources)
[07:19] <buz> with the possible exception of kmail which is damn resource hog
[07:19] <intelikey> if you want light weight.  use twm
[07:20] <intelikey> or go commando
[07:20] <intelikey> :)
[07:20] <zorglu_> hehe :) i only boot in single user :)
[07:20] <zorglu_> ok so lets help this guy then
[07:20] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu , thanks i'll check the ubuntu first ...
[07:20] <buz> cpl-tnt44: try the live cd maybe?
[07:21] <cpl-tnt44> buz , i installed from the live cd the ubuntu 6 ..
[07:21] <intelikey> zorglu_ why single ?     just remove the referance to the *dm in your desired runlevel.   no need to be in single user mode.
[07:21] <cpl-tnt44> laterst
[07:21] <buz> you can install kubuntu by doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <buz> then you can switch between the two and compare
[07:22] <intelikey> buz or just install kde
[07:22] <cpl-tnt44> damn ... im getting an error failed to start Xserver ( your graphical interface ...blablabla ...) what should i do ?
[07:22] <intelikey> no conflicts that way.... or not as many
[07:22] <buz> conflicts? what conflicts
[07:22] <buz> i have both on my notebook, no issues whatsoever
[07:23] <cpl-tnt44> guyz .. i have a proble, with the install now ... can i get some attension plz
[07:23] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 depends on what the blablabla is
[07:23] <cpl-tnt44> "Failed to start the X Server ( your graphical interface) it is likely that it is not set up correctly . would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem "  *** just installed ubuntu on a desktop and moved the hdd back to the laptop and this is the messege i got .. how can i solve this ? ***
[07:23] <zorglu_> intelikey: nope in reality i ran unix only in tty up to 2001 and then switch to graphical. now i like it :)
[07:24] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: you can't move the hd like that :) all the hardward config from the laptop is different from the desktop one
[07:24] <intelikey> zorglu_ i used gui's up to 2k  hehhe
[07:24] <Joel-Wideman> Okay. I followed the instructions at those links. From the client kubuntu box, it sees the print server. Printing a test page, it says it was successfully sent. However, the test page doesn't print.
[07:24] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: this is what confuse the system
[07:24] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu_ : so in what step can i move the hdd ?
[07:24] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu_ , cant ubuntu adjust itself ?
[07:25] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: good question, the easiest would be to reinstall
[07:25] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:25] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: nope it cant
[07:25] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu_ : ok ... and not the easiest ?
[07:25] <cpl-tnt44> thank inte
[07:25] <intelikey> np
[07:25] <Arlington> aaaargh anyone who can help a swede with getting (at) and everyother third selection figure to work?!
[07:25] <intelikey> and i would call reconfiguring x easer than reinstalling
[07:25] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: would be to fix all the issue you would meet along the way, as intelikey give you
[07:26] <buz> Arlington: getting WHAT to work?
[07:26] <cpl-tnt44> he asks me to autodetect the graphical card should i click YES or NO ?
[07:26] <intelikey> zorglu_ there shouldn't be many issues.   reconfiguring the network and the xserver should about do it.
[07:27] <intelikey> yes
[07:27] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[07:27] <zorglu_> intelikey: cool then
[07:27] <zorglu_> !se
[07:27] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[07:27] <cpl-tnt44> card provider ... :??? compaq armada m300
[07:27] <zorglu_> Arlington: in case you are not aware of it
[07:27] <Arlington> i can't make @ signs.
[07:27] <igor> anybody knows a good website to get codecs???? i need the realplayer codecs
[07:28] <intelikey> O.O
[07:28] <Arlington> and if i get that to work i usually can't make usual letters...
[07:28] <intelikey> !realplayer
[07:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:29] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , use kernal framebuffer device interface ?
[07:29] <intelikey> Arlington what does [shift of #2]   print ?
[07:29] <cpl-tnt44> yes or no ?
[07:29] <Arlington> "
[07:29] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 no
[07:29] <intelikey> Arlington hmmm interesting...
[07:30] <Arlington> well now mysteriously it works. i will dig and get back !
[07:30] <intelikey> Arlington did you set xorg to use your keyboard layout ?
[07:30] <igor> anybody knows a good website to get codecs???? i need the realplayer codecs
[07:30] <Arlington> yes of course.
[07:30] <cpl-tnt44> interlikey , rebooting , hold your fingers ...
[07:30] <buz> !restricted
[07:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:31] <igor> i'll see
[07:31] <Joel-Wideman> Also, the windows box says that I'm not authorized to use the printer on the kubuntu box. I did follow the steps in those instructions.
[07:31] <buz> spilt white powder on your keyboard or what
[07:31] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 just type startx
[07:32] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 no need to reboot to test it
[07:32] <cpl-tnt44> interlikey "interlikey , rebooting , hold your fingers ..." means i already did
[07:32] <intelikey> hehhe ok
[07:32] <cpl-tnt44> interlikey still problem presist
[07:33] <Joel-Wideman> !cups
[07:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:33] <intelikey> you didn't get something right. cpl-tnt44   compare  `lshw`   with the settings for the vidio card in your /etc/X/xorg.conf
[07:34] <cpl-tnt44> "startx" - is giving me an log screen ... at the end it says : Fatal server error : no screen found , XIO : fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer ) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests ( 0 knows processed) with 0 events remaning .
[07:34] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 or pastebin the output of  lshw   and  cat /etc/X/xorg.conf
[07:35] <cpl-tnt44> lshw ( i dunno what it means or how to activate it ... plz be more specific since im new to linux )
[07:35] <intelikey> it's a command.
[07:35] <Joel-Wideman> Is the information in those documents incorrect for Kubuntu because the print server does NOT work following those directions?
[07:36] <intelikey>  you can redirrect the output to a file if need be so      lshw > output.file
[07:36] <Arlington> not to bardge in or anything but cpl.tnt44 what videocard do u use?
[07:37] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , since my laptop dont have any outpot devices i would have to let it go ...
[07:37] <dinosaur-rus> uh, I won't install Kubuntu for several months
[07:37] <cpl-tnt44> cpltntn44 using ati rage 4 MB on his compaq armada M300
[07:37] <Arlington> !ati
[07:37] <intelikey> no output device ?
[07:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:37] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey - i only use external ...
[07:38] <rampage>  my amarok wont play
[07:38] <rampage>  help ?
[07:38] <Arlington> rampage: what happens?
[07:38] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 headless boxen   i C
[07:38] <rampage>  my amarok wont play mp3
[07:38] <cpl-tnt44> ubuntu 5 version worked well ... i dunno why i had to upgrade to 6
[07:38] <zorglu_> q. when people boot in recovery, what is the graphic mode use ? normal X drivers or does it fall back on fd ?
[07:38] <zorglu_> fd= fb= framebuffer
[07:38] <Arlington> cpl-tnt44: what driver did u select?
[07:38] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , yeap
[07:39] <cpl-tnt44> ATI
[07:39] <rampage>  ???
[07:39] <mluser-laptop> could someone please let me know what file I need to edit to have certain kernel modules loaded at boot time?
[07:39] <zorglu_> !mp3
[07:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <cpl-tnt44> lets do a step by step of the commands ?
[07:39] <Arlington> you should probably get the frglx driver.
[07:39] <rampage>  i know that stuff@ubotu
[07:39] <morghanphoenix> how do I set up ssh to let my girl access my hard drive from WinSCP?
[07:39] <cpl-tnt44> sudo d...reconfigure command ?
[07:39] <buz> mluser-laptop: /etc/modules
[07:40] <cpl-tnt44> found it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:40] <rampage>  how can i play mp3 in amarok ?
[07:40] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: just lets her login, the scp is on top of ssh
[07:40] <intelikey> zorglu_ i don't know  but it should be  vga=normal  if it's truely a "safe mode"   probably isn't.   look in the  /boot/grub/menu.lst  and see what it is
[07:40] <zorglu_> !mp3 > rampage
[07:40] <Arlington> you need to get thoose codecs we spoke about earlier.
[07:40] <Arlington> rampage:  !mp3
[07:40] <buz> morghanphoenix: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:40] <mluser-laptop> buz: thanks :)
[07:40] <buz> then maybe you have to start openssh
[07:40] <rampage> yup
[07:40] <rampage> help
[07:41] <intelikey> zorglu_ frame buffering should not be active in failsafe/recovery mode.
[07:41] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: as far I know you apt-get install openssh-server and then give her a login
[07:41] <buz> (out of personal experience i recommend to remove certain files first)
[07:41] <intelikey> it probably is in *butnu though.
[07:41] <zorglu_> intelikey: indead, it is only 'single + nosplash' for recovery, but nothing about graphic mode
[07:41] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey : ok step by step command ...
[07:41] <cpl-tnt44> Autodetect video driver ? YES NO ?
[07:41] <intelikey> no
[07:42] <morghanphoenix> Do I need to do anything with my router or should that not matter?
[07:42] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 switch tty's and run lshw on the same box and see what the name of the graphics card is.
[07:42] <intelikey> err headless.  nm.
[07:42] <morghanphoenix> openssh-server
[07:42] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: she need to be able to reach your box. so up to you to see
[07:43] <buz> morghanphoenix: can oyu ping her?
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> yes, I can ping her
[07:43] <buz> then your network is fine
[07:43] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 i aint gonna play the headless game today.  ask someone else.
[07:43] <zorglu_> buz: that a optimistic view of network :)
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> do I need to set up opensshserer or is that doen allready?
[07:43] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , can i make it run page by page so i can look at it ? like dir/w ?
[07:43] <zorglu_> !ssh
[07:43] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:43] <buz> if you apt-getted it, it's setup
[07:43] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: have you read this page ?
[07:44] <morghanphoenix> Thanks
[07:44] <buz> you MIGHT need to start it
[07:44] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 yes   lshw | less
[07:44] <cpl-tnt44> thanks u .. that should solve it...
[07:44] <rampage>  help some 1 ?
[07:44] <rampage>   playing mp3s
[07:44] <Arlington> !mp3
[07:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <rampage>  with amarok
[07:44] <rampage>  i have seen that
[07:45] <Arlington> tehn do what it say!
[07:45] <zorglu_> looks like the bot page no more satisfies users
[07:45] <Arlington> says
[07:45] <DaSkreech> buz: He shouldn't :)
[07:45] <buz> that usually works with amarok?!?
[07:45] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , it doesnt show the graphical card...
[07:45] <Arlington> !repositories
[07:45] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:45] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , it doesnt show the graphical card... nm !!!
[07:45] <Arlington> !daept
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <buz> DaSkreech: who shouldnt do what?
[07:45] <Arlington> !adept
[07:45] <DaSkreech> rampage: install libxine-extracodecs
[07:45] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:45] <DaSkreech> buz: Have to start it
[07:45] <intelikey> zorglu_ back to the recovery mode   i can't use grub so i have nothing to look at.  but there may be a default  vga= in your menu.lst
[07:45] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 in the less filter hit   /vidio
[07:45] <buz> DaSkreech: i know i had to do it once
[07:46] <buz> but other times i didnt
[07:46] <buz> so checking cant hurt
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Warty? :)
[07:46] <zorglu_> intelikey: yep, thanks i think i will add it, just in case i need it. because it is not there
[07:46] <buz> hoary
[07:46] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , DISPLAY : VGA compatible controller , PRODUCT : 3D Rage LT PRO , vendor : ATI ,physical id:5 bus info pci@00:05.0 version : dc
[07:46] <Arlington> rampage: PM
[07:46] <buz> or breezy
[07:46] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 less has built in search function  /<search-string>   for forword  and   ?<search_string>  for reverse search.
[07:47] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 yuch.... there's part of the problem.
[07:47] <intelikey> !ati
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 try to just use the vesa driver and see if you can get x working that way.
[07:48] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , mmm the problem is to move it back to the laptop witch is headless
[07:48] <Arlington> intelikey: it's not hard to get that driver!
[07:48] <Arlington> i did it.
[07:48] <cpl-tnt44> ok using the vesa driver is ?
[07:48] <buz> a headless laptop?
[07:48] <buz> now that sounds rather useless
[07:48] <cpl-tnt44> yeap
[07:48] <intelikey> Arlington getting it. no.  getting it to work without error.........
[07:48] <cpl-tnt44> headless but i can easy remove the HDD and connect it to a usb 2
[07:49] <Arlington> not hard for me anyway?
[07:49] <Arlington> if nothing else works you must try the hard routes...
[07:49] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , how do i define the vesa ?
[07:49] <buz> cpl-tnt44: you could always install openssh-server ;)
[07:49] <cpl-tnt44> openssh-server ?
[07:49] <cpl-tnt44> expand on it ?
[07:50] <cpl-tnt44> btw how do i exit from the lshw command ?
[07:50] <buz> yeah access it over the net
[07:50] <buz> wait a minute, how are you using less without a screen?
[07:51] <cpl-tnt44> laptop , without output like Diskett drives or DVD drive and sort of like not a screan !!!
[07:51] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 please ask someone else.   i don't want to play the headless game....    in the first place you can't get xorg working on a headless box    not the server anyway.   and in the second place we probably aren't even speeking the same language which will only lead to more frustration.
[07:51] <cpl-tnt44> screen
[07:51] <morghanphoenix> okay, I don't see where it says what the host is, is it my IP or host name?
[07:51] <morghanphoenix> Keeps telling me the host doesn't exist.
[07:51] <cpl-tnt44> its not head less !!!
[07:51] <Arlington> cpl-tnt44:  headless as in graphics card
[07:52] <cpl-tnt44> Arlington , i can see something on the screen , how do u think i write the commands ?
[07:52] <buz> morghanphoenix: try the ip
[07:52] <intelikey> headless means no vidio-out
[07:52] <buz> without screen, one can do that you know
[07:53] <buz> bonus points for serial console ;)
[07:53] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , i got u wrong i thought headless like in no output devices like cdrom , diskett drives or so ...
[07:53] <intelikey> buz hehhe cheeter
[07:53] <cpl-tnt44> not screen !
[07:53] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: can you putty in?
[07:53] <cpl-tnt44> i have a regular laptop its just dont have cdrom and diskett drives...
[07:53] <Arlington> intelikey cpl-tnt44: hahaha
[07:53] <buz> even more bonuspoints if the serial console is on the other end of the world using a portmaster ;)
[07:53] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 see  the second reason in the excuse above... ^
[07:53] <cpl-tnt44> :)
[07:54] <ninHer> hi all
[07:54] <cpl-tnt44> lol !... come on ...
[07:54] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , im a computer tech guy but english is not my 1st language but i do speak it very well ...
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> it should be an ez problem to solve...
[07:55] <intelikey> ok it's not headless.   we can do this then.     (takes a deep breath)
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> ok ..
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> im in lshw command ...
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> how do i end it ?
[07:55] <buz> try q
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> buz , thanks ...
[07:55] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: I assume client machine is Windows?
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> ok now what ?
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> X server problem ..
[07:56] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 for all future referances.  all commands will pertain only to the (headless) laptop with a display    ok ?
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> the chip is ati ...
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> lol offcourse !
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> go
[07:56] <buz> morghanphoenix: can the client ping YOU?
[07:57] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/X/xserver.xorg
[07:57] <morghanphoenix> yes, it can ping me.
[07:57] <cpl-tnt44> i got into a GNU nano 1.3.10 ?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: Can you putty in?
[07:57] <buz> uhm xorg.conf lives in /etc/X11/xorg.conf on dapper?!?
[07:58] <intelikey> scroll down to  Section "Device"
[07:58] <dinosaur-rus> buz: it should
[07:58] <cpl-tnt44> buz ,i dont think so bcz im in an edit screen ...
[07:58] <intelikey> buz yes ty.  sorry cpl-tnt44  X11
[07:58] <morghanphoenix> I got it to connect, but it's saying that it can't initialize SFTP
[07:58] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg
[07:58] <intelikey> and scroll down to  Section "Device"
[07:58] <morghanphoenix> do I need to install something else on mine, or is the windows client set up wrong.
[07:58] <cpl-tnt44> ok how do i exit this screen ?
[07:58] <buz> morghanphoenix: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config if sftp-server is commented out
[07:58] <intelikey> that defines your vidio card
[07:59] <intelikey> the instructions are at the bottom of the screen
[07:59] <cpl-tnt44> inte , wait u got in an edit screen Exit = ^X
[07:59] <intelikey> yep
[07:59] <cpl-tnt44> ok !
[07:59] <cpl-tnt44> i got it
[07:59] <cpl-tnt44> now what
[08:00] <cpl-tnt44> sudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg ?
[08:00] <intelikey> try it with the correct address ?   you there now ?
[08:00] <intelikey> yep
[08:00] <buz> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:01] <cpl-tnt44> aint working guyz !
[08:01] <buz> try mine
[08:01] <cpl-tnt44> give me a command that works...
[08:01] <cpl-tnt44> i tried !
[08:01] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: What client are you using?
[08:01] <intelikey> reposting  <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg
[08:02] <intelikey> oops
[08:02] <intelikey> i did say xserver  hah
[08:02] <morghanphoenix> only place it even says sftp is Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[08:02] <intelikey> buz take over.
[08:02] <morghanphoenix> WinSCP
[08:02] <cpl-tnt44> Still !
[08:02] <cpl-tnt44> not working
[08:02] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[08:02] <buz> why arent we using dpkg-reconfigure anyway
[08:02] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: Hmm I've heard good things about that. I normally use Filezilla though
[08:02] <cpl-tnt44> lets use !
[08:02] <buz> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:03] <cpl-tnt44> nope .. still get me to the edit screen
[08:03] <morghanphoenix> it was the reccomendation in the windows irc channel
[08:03] <buz> cpl-tnt44: that's the point
[08:03] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 nano is a text editor
[08:03] <buz> morghanphoenix: winscp is fine
[08:03] <cpl-tnt44> ok ...
[08:04] <cpl-tnt44> so it worked fine ?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: What error are you getting?
[08:04] <buz> morghanphoenix: the sftp line isn't commented out?
[08:04] <intelikey> scroll down to the section that defines your vidio card.
[08:04] <cpl-tnt44> but im getting to an empty text editor with nothing says on it
[08:04] <morghanphoenix> the line I coppied? No
[08:04] <buz> no wonder your X doesnt work
[08:04] <buz> without configuration it would have a hard time
[08:04] <intelikey> change the driver to vesa     check with buz that i spelled correctly
[08:05] <cpl-tnt44> how do i change the driver to vesa ?
[08:05] <morghanphoenix> cannot initialize sftp protocol.
[08:05] <cpl-tnt44> dpkg ?
[08:05] <buz> yeah you could try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:05] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: Can WinSCP configure which version of ssh it is using?
[08:06] <cpl-tnt44> so lets...
[08:06] <morghanphoenix> it asks 1 or 2
[08:06] <morghanphoenix> Default 2
[08:07] <DaSkreech> That should be right then
[08:08] <morghanphoenix> It's okay that the user login for her has no home directory, right? I mean she doesn't use my computer.
[08:09] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: Erm... so when she sftps in what directory does it drop her into?
[08:09] <morghanphoenix> mine
[08:10] <morghanphoenix> I'm trying to give her files from my home directory.
[08:11] <buz> her user DOES need a home dir
[08:11] <buz> otherwise sftp wont work
[08:12] <mark_> Anyone help with sound problem? No audio, not even system sounds, all Kmix settings are up full but nowt comes from speakers???
[08:13] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: so she logs in with your username and passwd?
[08:13] <morghanphoenix> no, her user name to my home directory
[08:17] <morghanphoenix> So, I gave her user a home directory and tried logging in to it, smae error message.
[08:17] <morghanphoenix> server sent command exit status 1.
[08:18] <morghanphoenix> should I try using my login?
[08:18] <mark_> I just get a buzz when I use the scroll wheel on the mouse and I laso here a click when I press keys on the keyboard. Any ideas please???
[08:18] <buz> you could
[08:19] <buz> but i dont think it will help
[08:20] <morghanphoenix> Worked with my log in
[08:20] <morghanphoenix> that was wierd
[08:20] <buz> ok that IS weird
[08:21] <morghanphoenix> maybe because I'm logged in on this computer?
[08:22] <morghanphoenix> That's all I can think of.
[08:23] <morghanphoenix> But thanks, it's working now.
[08:23] <solemnwarning> When edgy stable gonna be released?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> !schedule > solemnwarning
[08:27] <alfadar> hi, I need to joining a kubuntu Workstation to a Windows NT4 Domain, somebody can indicate some documents to read?
[08:27] <DaSkreech> Did they ever sort out that Korroa Lawsuit?
[08:28] <zorglu_> !samba
[08:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:28] <zorglu_> alfadar: the above link it for you
[08:31] <alfadar> ok zorglu_
[08:31] <alfadar> Thank you zorglu_ and ubotu :)
[08:31] <zorglu_> :)
[08:36] <sYnie> Hey there. Does anyone know a little tool to convert VCD to MPEG?
[08:36] <buz> vcd IS mpeg
[08:37] <sYnie> but i'll get errors when i try to view the *.dat file
[08:37] <buz> view in what
[08:37] <sYnie> mplayer, vlc, ...
[08:38] <buz> mhh should work in vlc
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Is Edgy shipping with k3b 1?
[08:38] <buz> can you play the vcd in vlc?
[08:38] <zorglu_> !info k3b edgy
[08:38] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB
[08:38] <buz> DaSkreech: i think i saw it running on my box once
[08:38] <sYnie> yes
[08:38] <buz> mhh must have been wrong then ;)
[08:38] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: not currently :)
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[08:39] <DaSkreech> I hope the new basket gets in at some point
[08:39] <sYnie> [00000265]  access_file access error: read failed (Input/output error) <-- VLC says
[08:39] <buz> DaSkreech: it's nice
[08:39] <buz> although i dont agree with the kontact integration 100%
[08:39] <DaSkreech> You are using the SVN version?
[08:39] <DaSkreech> buz: can't you opt out of that?
[08:39] <buz> snapshots from the tarball yes
[08:39] <buz> DaSkreech: yes
[08:39] <DaSkreech> Problem solved :)
[08:39] <buz> if you compile it and kdepim-dev isnt installed it wont be integrated
[08:40] <buz> DaSkreech: it's simple to build, actually
[08:41] <DaSkreech> buz: Hmm no after installation opt out?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> That's not kool
[08:41] <buz> sudo apt-get build-dep kdepim and you got everything (most likely much more but who cares) than you need
[08:41] <buz> not sure
[08:41] <buz> maybe you can remove the shared lib
[08:41] <DaSkreech> hey aseigo
[08:42] <jessica_> #kubuntu.de
[08:42] <buz> the master himself
[08:42] <aseigo> hoi
[08:42] <jessica_> oh...
[08:42] <jessica_> i#m sorry
[08:42] <jessica_> '
[08:42] <jessica_> lol
[08:42] <zorglu_> no harm done :)
[08:42] <jessica_> wie geht das nochmal?
[08:42] <buz> jessica_: /join #kubuntu.de
[08:42] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[08:43] <cpl-tnt44> hey remember me ?
[08:43] <jessica_> ahh...
[08:43] <buz> yes
[08:43] <jessica_> thank you!
[08:43] <cpl-tnt44> i took a little break off this ...
[08:43] <buz> kein problem
[08:43] <zorglu_> !de
[08:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:43] <cpl-tnt44> reinstalled the ubuntu 6 and still problem presist
[08:43] <cpl-tnt44> we need to reconfigure the server X ...
[08:43] <buz> what card have you actually got
[08:44] <jessica_> buz kannst du etwa deutsch??
[08:44] <cpl-tnt44> its an old laptop ati rage
[08:44] <zorglu_> jessica_: it is a '-' :) and you can click on the #kubuntu-de directly if you are using konversation to irc
[08:44] <jessica_> oh...
[08:44] <jessica_> im sorry
[08:44] <buz> my bad
[08:44] <jessica_> thank you!!
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu_ , remember me u said something about u cant install ubuntu 6 on a desktop computer and move the hdd back to the laptop ?
[08:45] <buz> actually you can
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> really ?
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> thats what i did now buz
[08:45] <buz> sure, it's not windows
[08:45] <Mo-Z> is runescape playable in linux?
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> yeah but now i came to this server X error
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> and it cant be solved..
[08:45] <buz> yeah well you'll likely have to reconfigure x
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> sodu ?
[08:46] <buz> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> sudo ?
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> thanks
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> lets step by step this
[08:46] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: some misunderstanding here :) i said the easiest would be to reinstall. or you could fix the issue as you meet them
[08:46] <buz> pretty self explanatory really
[08:46] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: and you choosed the second solution
[08:47] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu my bad u right !
[08:47] <MasterEvilAce> HURRAY! Kubuntu update gave me a usplash again. It's not centered though.. how do I fix that?
[08:47] <cpl-tnt44> but i wonder why in ubuntu 5 the transmission worked smooth while in 6 it come to some problems
[08:48] <romin> how i can install firefox with tar.gz ?
[08:48] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:48] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[08:48] <cpl-tnt44> lets continue
[08:48] <zorglu_> romin: elaborate
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> autodetect video hardware /yes/no ?
[08:49] <buz> try yes
[08:49] <miguel> alguien habla espaol?
[08:49] <zorglu_> !es
[08:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:49] <romin> anybody can help me ?
[08:50] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:50] <cpl-tnt44> it writes ati ...
[08:50] <cpl-tnt44> witch is ok
[08:50] <cpl-tnt44> which is ok
[08:50] <zorglu_> romin: the first step to get help, is to explain the problem you are trying to solve
[08:50] <JacksLivr> miguel hablo un poco espanol
[08:50] <zorglu_> romin: hence my 'elaborate' :)
[08:51] <Hawkwind> !es
[08:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> he wants the amount of memory in kb to be used by your video card ...
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> buz ^^^^
[08:51] <buz> leave it empty
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> kernal framebuffer ?
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> yes or no ?
[08:51] <JacksLivr> miguel: que is su problema?
[08:51] <buz> just hit enter until you come to the screen configuration
[08:51] <zorglu_> JacksLivr: miguel: please go in #kubuntu-es to speak in spanish
[08:52] <JacksLivr> sorry, was just trying to help him
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> ok i never some to this
[08:52] <JacksLivr> zorglu_: not trying to offend, just trying to help
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> he is asking me now Would you like to view the detailed X server output as well ?
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> hit yes or no ?
[08:52] <buz> why did it start x just now?
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> buz ?
[08:52] <buz> no
[08:53] <miguel> gracias
[08:53] <zorglu_> JacksLivr: it is cool, the issue is just this channel is english speaking, you can help him in #kubuntu-es without problem
[08:53] <miguel> para empezar como cambio de canal??
[08:53] <miguel> ya tengo una pestaa abierta con #kubuntu-es
[08:53] <cpl-tnt44> now it says ... The X server is now diabled . Restart GDM when it is configured correctly
[08:53] <buz> DaSkreech: actually it seems you can use basket standalone even if its compiled for kontact
[08:53] <miguel> pero nadie me contesta
[08:53] <DaSkreech> buz: well yeah :)
[08:53] <cpl-tnt44> is it ok
[08:53] <JacksLivr> i'll PM him
[08:53] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Kontact is an app aggregator
[08:54] <buz> mhh
[08:54] <buz> doesnt sound very good, cpl-tnt44
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> ok ..
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> retry ?
[08:54] <buz> if x cant configure itself, there's likely some hardware it gets confused by
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> or there is more to it?
[08:54] <buz> no that works with my ati card
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> which cant be redefined ?
[08:54] <buz> what chip is in there?
[08:55] <cpl-tnt44> Rage
[08:55] <buz> DaSkreech: i can tar you up the built sources if you like
[08:55] <miguel> jackslivr_ tengo que registrar mi nick cada vez que incie session, ya recibi tu mensaje en privado, pero no te puedo contestar
[08:55] <buz> hmm
[08:55] <buz> not even sure if thats supported by the ati driver, really
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> naaa the ubuntu 5 took the card why the 6 cant ?
[08:56] <buz> different versions of xorg
[08:56] <buz> maybe you need another driver, who knows
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> can i upgrade from 5 to 6 ?
[08:56] <buz> i'm not exactly x expert myself
[08:56] <buz> sure
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> without a CD !!!
[08:56] <buz> sure
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> bcz i dont have cd rom
[08:57] <zorglu_> JacksLivr: or you can join #kubuntu-es :)
[08:57] <buz> !upgrade
[08:57] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:57] <cpl-tnt44> in this laptop
[08:57] <buz> neither have i
[08:57] <cpl-tnt44> can i install ubuntu from the hdd without a cd rom ?
[08:57] <zorglu_> !netboot
[08:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:57] <buz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[08:58] <buz> thats how i install kubuntu on my notebook
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> i have a network card in the laptop
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> can i use it to boot ?
[08:58] <zorglu_> buz: the bot used to answer this page... the page of the bot are to general now...
[08:58] <PiR> hi
[08:58] <buz> depends
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> u mean PXE ?
[08:58] <PiR> i've a program whose his name is stellarium
[08:59] <buz> zorglu_: i had used the page last night
[08:59] <buz> so it was still in my history
[08:59] <buz> cpl-tnt44: yes
[08:59] <PiR> and i wanna take screen shots
[08:59] <zorglu_> buz: ok
[08:59] <PiR> but i don't know how
[08:59] <rampage>  where can i get libc6 (>= 2.4-1) for installing libxine-extracodecs
[08:59] <PiR> someone can help me ?
[08:59] <zorglu_> PiR: press the 'print' key
[08:59] <buz> PiR: alt-f2 -> ksnapshot
[08:59] <rampage>  help ??
[09:00] <PiR> ok thanks
[09:00] <zorglu_> !info libc6
[09:00] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[09:00] <zorglu_> rampage: you get it there
[09:00] <rampage>  but my amarok wont play unless libxine-extracodecs installed
[09:01] <buz> rampage: how about sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodeds?
[09:01] <rampage>  libxine has these dependiencies
[09:02] <rampage>  it say
[09:02] <rampage> (Reading database ... 67107 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:02] <rampage> Unpacking libxine1c2 (from .../libxine1c2_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb) ...
[09:02] <rampage> Selecting previously deselected package libxine-extracodecs.
[09:02] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[09:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:02] <rampage> Unpacking libxine-extracodecs (from .../libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb) ...
[09:02] <rampage> Preparing to replace libxine-extracodecs 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (using .../libxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
[09:02] <rampage> Unpacking replacement libxine-extracodecs ...
[09:02] <rampage> More than one copy of package libxine-extracodecs has been unpacked
[09:02] <rampage>  in this run !  Only configuring it once.
[09:02] <zorglu_> rampage: the pastebin is done for that.
[09:02] <rampage> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libxine-extracodecs:
[09:02] <rampage>  libxine-extracodecs depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however:
[09:02] <rampage>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[09:02] <rampage> dpkg: error processing libxine-extracodecs (--install):
[09:02] <rampage>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:03] <PiR> 'print' for screen shot -> no
[09:04] <frojnd> hello there
[09:04] <PiR> and ALT+F2 do nothings
[09:04] <rampage>  plz look at these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25517/
[09:04] <fdoving> PiR: kmenu -> run command
[09:04] <fdoving> !paste > rampage
[09:04] <PiR> and ?
[09:04] <PiR> ok
[09:04] <fdoving> PiR: that equals to alt+f2.
[09:05] <rampage>  thse what i get when apt-get libxine-extracodecs
[09:05] <zorglu_> PiR: you seems to have issue with your keyboard configuration. or you had modified it
[09:05] <zorglu_> PiR: those keys are setup by default on kubuntu
[09:05] <PiR> but i've not the kmenu in the screen
[09:05] <zorglu_> Pi
[09:05] <zorglu_> PiR: no big K on the bottom left ?
[09:05] <rampage>  so help ??
[09:05] <frojnd> what can I do to open link which include streaming: Firefox doesn't know how to open this adress, becouse the protocol (mms) isn't associated with any program
[09:05] <PiR> stellarium is a program which take total place in the screen
[09:06] <rampage>  some help ^_^
[09:06] <PiR> screenfull program (i believe we says it)
[09:07] <zorglu_> PiR: oh ok, the term is 'fullscreen'
[09:07] <PiR> ok thanks (i'm french sorry)
[09:07] <zorglu_> PiR: np, me too :)
[09:07] <PiR> lol
[09:07] <rampage>  help ??? on amarok plz
[09:07] <cpl-tnt44> BUZ BUZ !
[09:07] <cpl-tnt44> BUz !
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> its working !!!!
[09:08] <buz> congrats
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> u wont belive what i did !
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> i used the recovery consol
[09:08] <rampage>  ???
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> and did what u said about the screen configuration
[09:08] <sYnie> i tried to copy a file from CD to my harddrive. but i always get a "Input/Output error"... what could this be ?
[09:08] <DaSkreech> rampage: what command did you use to install?
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> and ubuntu is up !!!
[09:08] <DaSkreech> sYnie: BaD Cd?
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> now lets restart to chk if it works
[09:09] <fdoving> rampage: looks like your sources.list entries don't match your current kubuntu version
[09:09] <sYnie> @DaSkreech it's a VCD and I can play it via VLC
[09:09] <rampage> might be
[09:09] <PiR> zorglu_ : if you know, can you please connect in kubuntu-fr me to explain ?
[09:09] <rampage> how to change them
[09:09] <DaSkreech> sYnie: try to dd it
[09:09] <Homer> will edgy eft has KDE 3.5.4?
[09:09] <buz> Homer: yes
[09:09] <buz> already has
[09:09] <knithx> Hi!
[09:09] <fdoving> rampage: what kubuntu version do you have?
[09:09] <zorglu_> PiR: "sleep 5 && ksnapshot" in a terminal and you got 5sec to switch to the stellariem screen :)
[09:09] <rampage> 6.06
[09:09] <buz> you can use kde 3.5.4 with dapper if you want
[09:10] <xav33> sex
[09:10] <knithx> Can anyone send me /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png???
[09:10] <knithx> Please
[09:10] <rampage>  ???
[09:10] <DaSkreech> rampage: what command did you use to install this?
[09:10] <buz> thinking of it, i should upgrade kde myself
[09:10] <sYnie> dd says the same: "Input/Output error"
[09:10] <rampage> dpkg -i /root/Desktop/m/*.deb
[09:11] <DaSkreech> rampage: do you have two libxine debs on the Desktop?
[09:11] <knithx> Excuse me, can anyone upload /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png to www.imageshack.us for me?
[09:11] <rampage>  that was the command
[09:11] <Homer> yeah I heard khtml got improved in 3.5.4
[09:11] <buz> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[09:11] <DaSkreech> rampage: do you have two libxine-extracodes.deb files on the desktop
[09:12] <rampage> libxine1c2_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb
[09:12] <rampage> libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb
[09:12] <rampage> libxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[09:12] <DaSkreech> !
[09:12] <rampage>  these 3 files
[09:12] <DaSkreech> rampage: mv the 1.1.1 deb to a new folder
[09:12] <rampage>  ok
[09:13] <DaSkreech> rampage: No wait!!
[09:13] <DaSkreech> The 1.1.2
[09:13] <rampage>  ??
[09:13] <DaSkreech> mv that one out leave the 1.1.1 on the desktop
[09:13] <DaSkreech> then run the command again
[09:14] <rampage>  which 1.1.1 ? i have 2 files
[09:14] <soulrider> anyone here good with networks ?
[09:14] <knithx> Excuse me, can anyone upload /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png to www.imageshack.us for me?
[09:15] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[09:16] <cpl-tnt44> i have one more issue to solve
[09:16] <soulrider> http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4025/kubuntupanelyw6.png
[09:16] <buz> what
[09:16] <cpl-tnt44> my wireless network on a pcmcia card
[09:16] <buz> !wireless
[09:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:16] <cpl-tnt44> ok thanks i hope it helps
[09:17] <rampage> help
[09:17] <cpl-tnt44> if im using a laptop i should go into this section : WifiDocs/WirelessLaptopInternetAccessPoint ???
[09:17] <buz> no idea
[09:17] <buz> my wireless always works
[09:17] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[09:19] <Homer> does wine work pretty well these days?
[09:23] <grothesk> Hi!
[09:23] <grothesk> How do I set up a certain soundcard as the default one?
[09:25] <caseyomah> Homer: That is an unfair question. it works for most basic M$ programs, but many DirectX and "Disc ID" programs fail.
[09:25] <fdoving> grothesk: check this out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76978.html
[09:26] <grothesk> fdoving: thx!
[09:26] <zorglu_> caseyomah: what is 'disc id' ?
[09:26] <caseyomah> That's what I call them.
[09:26] <caseyomah> Programs (mainly games) that do original disc checking.
[09:26] <fdoving> grothesk: not sure it's up2date, but it can be helpfull anyway.
[09:26] <zorglu_> caseyomah: ah ok thanks
[09:27] <caseyomah> Examples I've seen: Diablo series, 7th Guest series.
[09:27] <fdoving> grothesk: there is also http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=48385
[09:29] <caseyomah> I personally prefer Gaim to Kopete because of Kopete's adhering to the rule of "You cannot add yourself to your contact list"
[09:29] <Nookie^> caseyomah: and why do u want to add your self to contact list?
[09:30] <jeff_> Hi, all
[09:30] <caseyomah> Nookie^: I make a Status group and add myself so I can see if the "program status" matches the "network status" I have seen times (on other messengers) when they don't.
[09:30] <Homer> caseyomah: yeah that annoys the hell out of me
[09:31] <jeff_> I've got an issue with mythtv running on a Virtual Machine, not making any connection to a remote mysql server, even though I can make the same connection using mysql from the CL.
[09:31] <Homer> not just you can't add yourself to the contact list, it has to remind you everytime
[09:31] <Homer> You can not add yourself to the contact list!
[09:31] <caseyomah> That too. :)
[09:31] <Homer> with no way to remove yourself
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm retarted
[09:31] <Homer> unless you use gaim of course lol
[09:32] <caseyomah> Right.
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i just messed up two different envelopes writing an address
[09:32] <caseyomah> Does Kopete support meta-contacts?
[09:34] <grothesk> caseyomah: Yes, it does.
[09:34] <cpl-tnt44> im fresh to ubuntu can some 1 plz tell me how to install ndiswrapper on a computer with no internet connection ?
[09:34] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[09:35] <caseyomah> Okay, so just the "can't add yourself" balances against A/V features...
[09:36] <buz> no idea
[09:36] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[09:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:36] <buz> !ndiswwrapper
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <buz> !ndiswrapper
[09:36] <caseyomah> BTW: I have a Dell USB Hub Keyboard. I was wondering how to get the multimedia keys working (if possible)
[09:36] <DaSkreech> When does the MP3 patent expire?
[09:36] <caseyomah> 2100?
[09:37] <cpl-tnt44> !ndiswrapper
[09:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:37] <caseyomah> DaSkreech: The year 2100?
[09:37] <DaSkreech> caseyomah: When was it filed?
[09:38] <caseyomah> DaSkreech: I don't know, I'm just being a jerk because patents aren't being used the way they were intended.
[09:38] <DaSkreech> Yeah but would be nice to know when Distros can ship with mP3 support
[09:38] <soulrider> i heard that mp3 will be free in 2 years or soemthign like that
[09:38] <cpl-tnt44> !wiki
[09:38] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[09:38] <DaSkreech>  Though I think that we shouldjust make .ogg kill .mp3
[09:39] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Where?
[09:39] <soulrider> uhm
[09:39] <soulrider> here actually
[09:39] <soulrider> someone said it
[09:39] <soulrider> cant remember who
[09:39] <caseyomah> DaSkreech: Patents are supposed to "buy" the patent subject into the public domain after a number of years.
[09:39] <Hawkwind> soulrider: I added all the wallpapers to http://SeerOfSouls.com/gallery  today
[09:39] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: http://www.mp3licensing.com/patents/index.html for each different countries
[09:39] <soulrider> AWESOME!
[09:40] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i stil got a Sh**load to upload
[09:40] <octan> DaSkreech 75 years after it was patended
[09:40] <soulrider> but i got a slow connection, plus, i need my connection
[09:40] <soulrider> hopefuly i cna do it in a few weeks
[09:40] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You should put them in a seperate directory somewhere so I can download just those and not the whole thing again :)
[09:41] <soulrider> uhm
[09:41] <soulrider> the thing is i dont know which i uploaded lol
[09:41] <soulrider> im sucha  atrd
[09:41] <soulrider> what we could do is
[09:41] <caseyomah> lol @ soulrider
[09:41] <soulrider> i can go on uploading them to tks server
[09:41] <DaSkreech> octan: That's the date it was granted not the date it was filed?
[09:41] <soulrider> and then
[09:41] <octan> yea granted
[09:41] <soulrider> you can sort them by date
[09:41] <soulrider> and just downlaod hte ones you want
[09:42] <soulrider> which are the latest
[09:42] <fdoving> hint, #kubuntu-offtopic.
[09:42] <soulrider> **rolls eyes**
[09:42] <caseyomah> Okay, I have a kubuntu (KDE) specific issue...
[09:42] <fdoving> caseyomah: shoot.
[09:42] <cpl-tnt44> someone , guide me through the steps of installing wireless pcmcia card  please ? (wireless guides are for more advanced users ...)
[09:43] <caseyomah> I wonder if anyone knows what the %a...%z are set to in "Storage Media" in System Settings. (The media autoplay)
[09:44] <JohnFlux_> hey
[09:44] <caseyomah> Yes JohnFlux_?
[09:46] <bytech> Hi all. I just loaded Kubuntu on one of my desktops this morning. First time to view and navigate this OS. Can someone tell me the best way to check for updates and add programs like Mozilla Firefox and etc. etc.
[09:46] <caseyomah> ...Or failing a list, is there a way to like echo a list of current values to screen?
[09:47] <caseyomah> "Add/Remove Programs"
[09:47] <soulrider> bytech: you can use add/remove programs
[09:47] <soulrider> it will automatically get them form the internet :)
[09:47] <bytech> Let me check it out
[09:48] <bytech> I just sat down behind the machine 10 minutes ago
[09:48] <DaSkreech> bytech: Also you will have a little Orange blob thing with a Warning Sign on it in your System tray if you have updates
[09:48] <caseyomah> Updates (Really Upgrades) are auto-checked and you get a notification area icon when there are newer versions available.
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> bytech, or use Adept Manager
[09:49] <soulrider> yup
[09:49] <soulrider> thats another alternative
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> you might want to check out easy ubuntu too...
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> !easyubuntu > bytech
[09:50] <DaSkreech> bytech: Have you used LInux before?
[09:52] <JohnFlux_> caseyomah: my wife just mucking around..
[09:53] <bytech> Played with a few distros here and there
[09:55] <bytech> DaSkreech: Been using Kanotix for 3 or 4 months now as a primary machine
[09:55] <DaSkreech> bytech: Ok so you don't need too much "we are not windows" speech
[09:56] <bytech> No, I already prefer Linux over Windows
[09:58] <morghanphoenix> How do you change the icon for the K menu?
[09:59] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:59] <DaSkreech> Hello
[09:59] <bytech> DaSkreech: Just a matter of making the conversion and getting use to the basics of Linux and then going from there
[10:00] <morghanphoenix> is there a channel for KDE customization?
[10:00] <DaSkreech> #kde ?
[10:00] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: it's a file that you swap out I think
[10:00] <DaSkreech> bytech: Found adept and add/remove ok?
[10:01] <morghanphoenix> I saw that in the manual, but I followed the instructions and it didn't change.
[10:02] <DaSkreech> #kde would be a good place to hang out. Someone who knows more might answer you on here as well
[10:05] <bytech> DaSkreech: yep found both and checked out EasyUbuntu page as well. Just a matter of getting a little more in depth when I got some time.
[10:05] <gupta> Is  "tar  -cf  services.tar /etc/rc*" good enough to backup services start/disabled state??
[10:06] <DaSkreech> gupta: try /etc/rc*/*
[10:07] <bytech> Thanks for the help. Be back later
[10:07] <gupta> DaSkreech: Oh the tar command works
[10:07] <DaSkreech> bye bytech
[10:08] <gupta> I was wonering if that was all that is required for backing up
[10:08] <gupta> services state
[10:08] <bytech> c
[10:09] <ace> can someone help explan to me how I can uninstall programs that were already installed when I installed ubuntu and the kubuntu desktop?
[10:10] <DaSkreech> ace: You can remove them with adept or apt-get remove <package name>
[10:10] <ace> anyone?
[10:10] <ace> well then i tried adapt it said it was going to uninstall kubuntu too
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Which Kubuntu?
[10:11] <DaSkreech> kubuntu-desktop?
[10:11] <ace> idk let me try it again but i think so
[10:11] <ace> and i installed the kubuntu desktop when i was in ubuntu
[10:11] <ace> if that helps
[10:12] <ace> yea i am trying to uninstall kooka and when i click inspect changes it says it is going to remove Kubuntu desktop system too
[10:13] <jtyler4> i'm having trouble with removing a package from 6.06 with Apt-get is this the correct area to get halp?
[10:13] <DaSkreech> ace: that's fine
[10:13] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: yes
[10:14] <ace> just go ahead and click uninstall????
[10:14] <DaSkreech> ace: yes
[10:14] <ace> alrighty...thnx
[10:15] <gupta> can anyone think of a possible reason for not being able to download from Irc?
thank you. I used the installed with wordperfect (I know it's old) but now I can't remove a package. dpkg kicks out an error about missing files and directories.
[10:16] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: Did you check if they were in fact missing?
[10:16] <jtyler4> they are.
[10:17] <jtyler4> I made them with touch and made the directories over, and it dutifuly removes them, but still repeats the error
[10:17] <DaSkreech> Can you pastebin the error?
[10:17] <jtyler4> I've tried clean and autoclean switches, but no go
pastebin?
[10:18] <DaSkreech> !paste
[10:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:18] <jtyler4> it's about 15 lines
[10:19] <DaSkreech> That's why you use Pastebin :)
http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25524/plain/
[10:21] <coreymon77> hey guys
[10:21] <coreymon77> whats a good bittorrent program for linux
[10:21] <coreymon77> ?
[10:21] <fdoving> check out ktorrent or azureus
is there a way to clear the package manually from the marked changes?
[10:23] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:23] <jtyler4> DaSkreech:same error
[10:24] <DaSkreech> Blast :-(
[10:24] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:24] <jtyler4> DaSkreech:yeah. there were other packages. maybe ths script fails cause this is the last package remaining
[10:25] <jtyler4> DaSkreech:same.
[10:25] <DaSkreech> Why are you removing it?
[10:26] <jtyler4> It refused to cooperate. I was trying it out for a noob to see if I could talk them through installing it... it didn't even start.
[10:27] <DaSkreech> apt-get install -f ?
[10:28] <jtyler4> DaSkreech:I used the command line to run the installer that came with WP8
[10:28] <DaSkreech> Sooo it was a .deb?
[10:28] <jtyler4> DaSkreech:yes. it is an old app. I chose debian during the install
[10:29] <DaSkreech> Ah. ... I'm wondering if you want to --force it
[10:30] <jtyler4> the remove script that came with it failed, and I'm trying to get it out now
[10:32] <bill6> how do you install a modem in kubundu
[10:32] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: do you mean reinstall it with force?
[10:34] <DaSkreech> no remove it with a force
[10:34] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: What did the original installer fail with?
[10:34] <rambo3> same way  you install a file  in kubundu.
[10:35] <jtyler4> SaSkreech: the installer worked fine. it was when I tried the uninstall script... and that was last night. I don't have the script.
[10:35] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: Right what did that fail with?
[10:35] <Tumaini> Hello people! I'm having some problems with Kweather. It just shows a window that says "empty page" when I try to configure it. How can I solve this, does anyone know?
[10:35] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: where can I find that?
[10:35] <tdn> How do I get my nvidia gforce 2 gts pro card to work in Kubuntu?
[10:36] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys :)
[10:36] <tdn> I selected the nvidia-driver from the display-setup in System settings. But now I won't work :(
[10:37] <DaSkreech> Ermm. Syslog maybe?
[10:37] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: standby
[10:37] <rambo3> nv driver
[10:37] <Tumaini> Anyone got any clue why kweather doesn't work in kde?
[10:39] <rambo3> !doesn't work
[10:39] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:40] <jtyler4> DaSkreech:the error- Only libc6 versions 2.0 and 2.1 are supported. Neither are installed.
[10:40] <shadowhywind> anyone good with wpa_supplicant, its keeps coming up saying Driver doesn't support WPA, but the driver was working before i reinstalled kubuntu
[10:41] <DaSkreech> What version of Libc6 is installed?
[10:41] <DaSkreech> Seems like a strange time to be checking that
[10:42] <Tumaini> Sorry, I was more specific earlier, but got no answer.
[10:42] <Tumaini> The problem is that when I try to configure it, I get a window that says "Empty page", and nothing more.
[10:43] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is installed according to Synaptic
[10:44] <DaSkreech> Tumaini: I think that happened to me as well and I had to log out
[10:44] <Tumaini> Oh, just that? Thanks, I'll try that.
[10:45] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: It checked for that at uninstall?
[10:47] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: here's the verbosity from the script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25526/plain/
[10:50] <noheadlights> join #rubyonrails
[10:50] <noheadlights> sry :)
[10:53] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: you get my last?
[10:56] <rambo3> are there any "quick and pre programed  " dhtml tools for linux
[10:57] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: BTW it's Photopaint, and not WP8 4 linux
[10:57] <DaSkreech> jtyler4:  I think the uninstaller itself needs libc 2.0 or 2.1
[10:58] <DaSkreech>  you could try and fool it :)
[10:58] <jtyler4> make a link to the current library?
[11:02] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[11:05] <jeisma> My amarok won't play mp3s anymore, how come?
[11:05] <jeisma> It says my 'void-engine' claims to not be able to play mp3s
[11:05] <jeisma> why did it change ti void-engine?
[11:05] <jeisma> any help?
[11:05] <CanoeOnWater> I cant get mp3s to play, aint there some package to do it all?
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> CanoeOnWater, libxine-extracodecs
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, are yiou using xine?
[11:06] <jeisma> anyone know why my amarok changed to 'void-engine' and it wont play mp3s?
[11:07] <CanoeOnWater> well i just installed it, and
[11:07] <CanoeOnWater> not sure
[11:07] <CanoeOnWater> let me look
[11:08] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: I'm looking over this script and it's just doing a script check. I'm going to edit a copy of the script and try again
[11:08] <DaSkreech> Ok
[11:08] <Kubu> what was the apt-get code to get the kernel source???
[11:08] <Kubu> sudo apt-get install ...
[11:08] <CanoeOnWater> i have kaffeen and amork
[11:08] <jeisma> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[11:08] <jeisma> Admiral_Chicago but it said it was changed to void-engine
[11:09] <Kubu> huh
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, #amarok
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> they know a little more than me and i'm afk
[11:09] <CanoeOnWater> is the xine in the Adept or Synaptic installer?
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> !mp3 > CanoeOnWater
[11:10] <jeisma> !mp3
[11:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:10] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: here's the section any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25528/
[11:11] <CanoeOnWater> ok, thanks Chicago... i will try
[11:12] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: What are you trying to do?
[11:12] <jtyler4> add 2.3 to the choices
[11:13] <shadowhywind> does anyone know why a driver would support WPA in one install, and not support it after the reinstall?
[11:15] <shadowhywind> any ideaas?
[11:16] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: Why don't you just comment out the check? :)
[11:17] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: I could set the libcVer manually. good idea.
[11:18] <zuus> anybody know how to fix the ati 'Mesa' driver issue??
[11:19] <zuus> i am having a problem getting 3d acceleration working
[11:19] <zuus> dri fails to load
[11:23] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: script went through. still have my apt-get error.
[11:23] <jtyler4> :(
[11:24] <DaSkreech> No errors for the uninstaller?
[11:24] <zuus> Does anybody know how to get 3d acceleration working properly??
[11:25] <jtyler4> DaSkreech:it was a strict script. it prefaced everything with "if installed..."
[11:25] <Kubu> what graphics card hav u got
[11:25] <Kubu> zuus
[11:25] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: It's a smart script :)
[11:25] <jtyler4> I still have to fix apt though
[11:26] <zuus> I am using an ATI Xpress 200m
[11:26] <zuus> I have trolled the forums for the past week
[11:26] <zuus> and cannot get FGLRX to load properly
[11:28] <drbeams> what is a good ftp server for kubunttu
[11:30] <segfault> drbeams, proftp
[11:31] <naegling23> hey, im getting an error when I try to change the resloution in NWN, can anyone help me out?
[11:32] <drbeams> k, i can use adept to install, but i don't know anything about it from there
[11:32] <jtyler4> DaSkreech?
[11:34] <naegling23> its X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation), does this mean that xorg is having trouble with my resolution?
[11:36] <colinguist> Hiya,  I just did something rather stupid.  I used the Kubuntu Display tool to change my monitor (using "Test"), and I can no longer see, my monitor gives me the "Incompatible Mode" message, and I can't see the desktop to change it back
[11:36] <colinguist> I now can't make it to the Login Screen
[11:36] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: Yes?
[11:36] <colinguist> Any good way to get in and fix it?
[11:36] <colinguist> (apologies for the noob question :p)
[11:36] <jtyler4> I've still got the error in Apt-get
[11:38] <colinguist> Or, more importantly, is there any way to reset Xorg.conf?
[11:38] <colinguist> So I can just start over :p
[11:38] <zuus> what video card are you using?
[11:38] <colinguist> ATI Radeon 9600
[11:39] <colinguist> This all happened when installing fglrx
[11:39] <zuus> try aticonfig --initial
[11:39] <zuus> yeah im having major problems with fglrx too
[11:39] <colinguist> Did that
[11:39] <colinguist> The issue is getting my xorg.conf back to a state where I can see anything
[11:39] <stonedragon12> hm
[11:39] <colinguist> and doing so without being able to get to Login
[11:40] <colinguist> I've got it booted off a liveCD now
[11:40] <zuus> hm sorry I dont know anything else that might help
[11:40] <colinguist> and I think I can edit the xorg.conf from here
[11:41] <zuus> what does fglrxinfo return?
[11:41] <colinguist> Well, I'm not sure right now
[11:43] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: try apt-get install --force-yes
[11:43] <DaSkreech> and the package you are installing
[11:44] <colinguist> If you erase xorg.conf, will it automatically create another/
[11:44] <colinguist> Actually...
[11:44] <colinguist> Hmm
[11:45] <colinguist> ?Can you start to a command line/
[11:46] <colinguist> Is there a way to bypass KDM altogether?
[11:47] <bmh> hi all, i just converted some partitions from ntfs to ext3, they show up in konq but i cant write as normal user - fstab entry for one: /dev/hdc1 /media/ext46 ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[11:47] <zuus> I think xorg.conf will regenerate itself if you delete it
[11:48] <zuus> you might want to create a backup first
[11:51] <colinguist> I'm copying the XOrg.conf from the LiveCD
[11:51] <colinguist> and hoping that works
[11:51] <colinguist> :p
[11:52] <edu> help
[11:53] <colinguist> YES!   It worked!
[11:53] <hyper> what package do I need to install for jpeglib.h  ?
[11:55] <frank_> hyper: probably something that looks like libjpeg-dev
[11:55] <frank_> hyper: what are you trying to compile?
[11:56] <hyper> frank: http://webcamserver.sourceforge.net/  --> or do you know any better webcam streaming software?
[11:56] <hyper> frank: on windows I used webcamXP
[11:57] <KDEfanboy> hyper: you can search packages by content filenames at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <hyper> frank: libjpeg62-dev did the job :)
[11:57] <zuus> colinquest: what does fglrxinfo return?
[11:57] <KDEfanboy> !packages
[11:57] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[11:58] <hyper> kdefanboy: Well, I was looking where that file is included... so I had no clue what the package was... so search doesn't help much, does it?
[11:58] <frank_> hyper: I don't know. don't have a webcam
[11:58] <jtyler4> DaSkreech: is there a force for installing this package? it seems to have broken dpkg
[11:58] <hyper> frank: configure / make / make install was now without error :) now lets see how that thing works
[11:58] <frank_> hyper: actually you can search for a specific file (in a package) at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ I think
[11:59] <KDEfanboy> hyper: yes it will help. there you can search for which packages provides jpeglib.h
[12:00] <hyper> fank / kdefanboy: I didn't know that... but in apt-cache search you can't search for a single file...
[12:02] <DaSkreech> jtyler4: Ah.. I'm Sorry but I have to leave now :(
[12:02] <jtyler4> I'm onthe right track now. thanks
[12:02] <DaSkreech> There should be a way to clear the dpkg install queue but I don't know what it is outside of reboot :(
[12:03] <jtyler4> k
[12:05] <couquinoux> francais
[12:05] <KDEfanboy> !fr
[12:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:07] <colinguist> Hmm.. "XLib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". when I run Glxgears
[12:08] <colinguist> Anybody have any idea what's broken there?
[12:10] <hyper> hmmm, isn't there a sun-java5-plugin for edgy?