=== Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@203.97.41.246] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:39] Why did the -artwork ML just get a whole bunch of old emails sent to it? [03:39] stuff from June... [03:40] I don't know! === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@202.124.98.26] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === tomveens [n=tomveens@ztn-c-1566b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [07:10] madpilot i suspect someone forwarded them [07:10] troy_s, the odd emails? They didn't look like forwards [07:11] some of them are for certain -- you can see that in the header. but i don't really understand it. [07:11] one minute i had 24 messages in my inbox === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ppd [n=max@dslb-088-064-027-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:19] troy_s: hi. have you received my email? === PingunZ [n=kristof@11.175-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:40] hi === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549562A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@82.228.146.152] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@82.243.217.90] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:59] hi all [01:08] hi effraie [01:08] ;) [01:09] bersace, /me cry for ppc poor user who can't use xaralx open-source... [01:09] lol [01:09] xaralx is not so good [01:09] ah? [01:09] it has good svg functionnalities [01:10] but the GUI is quite ugly imho [01:10] ok [01:10] far from HIG :) [01:10] but i want to make my own opinion, you know [01:10] (where inkscape goes) [01:10] it seems to be powerful [01:10] anyway, it has good svg feature, i'm sure that inkscape is going to implement such features [01:11] they add svg features each releases [01:11] that right [01:11] about artwork [01:11] is the pink a joke ? [01:11] never used xara, which are the funky feature is has which inkscape doesn't? [01:11] yes, a private joke [01:12] s/is/it/ [01:12] lapo: i can't use it on my ubuntu/ppc [01:12] do sabdfl want a black boot theme, then a pink login screen then orange gnome splash, and a brown desktop bg [01:13] it will be the gloubiboulga caumunity them, bersace [01:13] omg, my all those colors make my head spin :-) [01:13] caumunity/community [01:15] bersace: what pink are you speaking about? i just realised i did'nt post the pink panel-bg i've done [01:16] lapo: dunno [01:16] lapo: seems xaralx support gradient that fit a path [01:16] s/fit/follow/ [01:16] or similar features [01:16] would be cool === ppd [n=max@dslb-088-064-027-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:17] I'd love a perspective distorsion matrix [01:17] effraie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Polish/Incoming/LastMinuteRush [01:18] ok [01:18] bersace: uhm... is the artwork changing once again? [01:19] lapo: of course ! [01:19] hum, IMHO, that gdm is great, and is not really pink (but quite) where better just a little more dark [01:19] don't you know that Ubuntu like last minute rush to produce artwork [01:19] bersace: bah, there is a lot of talking but no clear guidelines or coordination about all this artwork process [01:19] event if we spent hours organising it (like restructuring the wiki= [01:19] ) [01:19] there was [01:20] bersace : did you seen it full screen? doesnt not feel pink in full screen [01:20] doesnt/does [01:23] effraie: right [01:23] but that's still pink [01:24] when i see my skin, its pale yellow [01:24] (with tches de rouceurs ) [01:24] :P [01:24] lol [01:24] skin ubuntu, au pied de la lettre [01:24] lol [01:25] human... [01:25] if we want skin color, don't be cartoonish ! [01:25] just take a shot of you skin and pick the a color !!! [01:25] summer skin or winter skin? [01:32] hh [01:32] south afrika skin ! [01:36] I supose that means summer -_- [01:38] hh [01:39] Soo .. what's up whit the pink ? [01:39] Kubuntu growing purple .. ubuntu getting pink [01:40] one of you know how to hack gtk-themes in order to assign a panel-pg? [01:40] Gimme a sec .. you just want to change its color or the background image ? [01:40] Check out /.themes [01:40] there the gtkrc [01:41] and then hold on a second :) [01:41] no... i want that the gtk-theme automaticly associate a bg-panel.png , as it can be done with desktop-background [01:41] PingunZ: if you can do that, youur fabulous [01:42] effraie .. it can be done [01:42] with the pixmap engine [01:42] gimme a sec .. I'm trying to find out how :) [01:42] great! [01:43] so, i've got to make a bug-report on ubuntu-look engine, to implement the same [01:43] I think I've got it .. [01:43] I'll pastebin it [01:44] PingunZ: do you know if pixmaps rotate the background image in case of vertical panels? [01:44] No, they don't === Huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] [01:44] ok [01:45] and can can associate different images for horizontal & vertical panels? [01:45] effraie: Just take a look at the LiNsta theme .. it uses the pixmap engine .. with a different panel bg .. [01:45] ok [01:45] Dunno effraie .. I think it can be done but that's just a guess .. [01:45] I'll link you to the linsta theme .. gimme a sec ;) [01:45] ok, thanks a lot [01:46] oh, i'll found it [01:46] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42697 [01:47] effraie: Take a look at the description on gnome-look there is a short explanation how to change its look .. ;) [01:48] yes, i'm currently reading that description [01:51] O_o My compiz theme is ranked #1 at gnome-look ^^ [02:00] which one is it? [02:12] Xristal === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549562A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === matt8806suomi [n=matt@dsl-jklgw1-fef4de00-58.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.4.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.4.dynamic.phpg.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Ex-Chat"] === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === matt8806suomi [n=matt@dsl-jklgw1-fef4de00-58.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@11.175-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:14] o_O I just checked out the new GDM .. te lastminuterush one .. [05:15] Err .. I don't like it .. at all === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.211] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:32] I removed the quiet option to get boot messages, the problem is that the boot messages are above the progress bar & corrupt it [05:32] is there a way to change the position in which the boot messages appear ? [05:32] and is there a way to use Dapper's splash in Edgy ? === matt8806suomi [n=matt@dsl-jklgw1-fef4de00-58.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:30] Hello... [06:30] Anyone haven't seen my new wallpaper that I made? especially kwwii? [06:31] show us! [06:31] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Polish/Incoming/Viper550 [06:36] how do i replace the startup splash screen [06:37] you use edgy? [06:41] just about to upgrade to edgy === dborg [n=daniel@85.182.50.158] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=Msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B2B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:32] hi all happy people! :))) === matt8806suomi [n=matt@dsl-jklgw1-fef4de00-58.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:48] I wish I was one. [08:49] but? msikma? === matt8806suomi [n=matt@dsl-jklgw1-fef4de00-58.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === matt8806suomi [n=matt@dsl-jklgw1-fef4de00-58.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:12] Hello everyone [09:17] hi fschoep [09:17] Hey kwwii , how are you doing? [09:17] I wonder which wallpaper Viper550 meant [09:18] I don't get it - more info needed :) === Zoohouse [n=joel@adsl-225-175-131.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:19] Hello everyone [09:19] Hi Zoohouse [09:19] hi fschoep :) [09:19] Hi nysosym [09:19] You guys know who I am? lol [09:19] Sure [09:19] no? [09:20] Joel Montes de Oca [09:20] Welcome [09:20] I created this team long ago near the time when launchpad.net opened. [09:20] fschoep: a short question, is the actually uspalsh theme the final one? [09:21] nysosym: it shouldn't be [09:21] I had a icon set concept in the making and I created this team to receive help. [09:21] Zoohouse: :) [09:21] But launchpad was still a bit limited [09:21] wow, amazing that the team took off [09:21] Zoohouse: that's a great bit of history [09:22] brb phone [09:22] k [09:22] fschoep: jippi, any preview of the final one? :D [09:23] nysosym: wrong question, we're working on it :-) [09:23] i like the idea of kubuntu, with the black background and a glossy logo [09:23] I see [09:23] What do you like most about that one? [09:23] ok back [09:23] fschoep: good, how are you? sounds like a lot of stress at the moment [09:24] kwwii: it's going, well, fine but a bit stressed indeed [09:24] kwwii: managed to do some real actual work tonight regarding integration of the Theme Team work [09:24] fschoep: at most, it is simple useful and very beautiful. :) [09:24] fschoep: as long as you make it through this time, things will be fine :-) [09:24] it's good to be able to actually *do* something instead of sending mails and pushing people around :) [09:25] fschoep: this was kinda what I was afraid would happen in paris [09:25] kwwii: hehe, October when kingdoms rise and kingdoms falls [09:25] fall* [09:25] fschoep: exactly :-) [09:25] Anyway, don't worry - I'm doing fine and I full well know what went well and what went wrong :) [09:26] what went wrong? :) [09:26] Here is the original icon set I was putting together at the time: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29443 [09:26] I'm pretty sure things'll work out even though it's been looking bleak at times ;) [09:26] fschoep: yeah, I got that feeling from the results...I think things will work out in the end [09:26] no matter how bleak it looks there is always a solution [09:27] Yes :) [09:27] Zoohouse: very good work, but a little bit inconsistent (the "people" icon for example) [09:27] we are having a party in the house I live in...time to go get a beer...be back later :-) [09:27] kwwii: got news on California already? [09:27] fschoep: nope, you? [09:27] kwwii: go and get your beer, cheers! [09:27] kwwii: me neither [09:27] kwwii: see you later this week probably [09:27] kwwii: be good :0 [09:27] hehe, from what I have heard, we are both still on the internal list, so we'll see what happens [09:28] see you later [09:28] nysosym: right, also the help icon and such were inconsistent. I had plans of changing them in the near future. [09:28] kwwii: cu [09:30] fschoep: on which section do you work at moment? :) [09:30] So how does the group function? Is all the communication done via the mailing list? [09:30] nysosym: integrating Theme Team themes to Edgy [09:30] Zoohouse: a lot is ML and a lot via the Wiki [09:31] nysosym: so you can enjoy Blubuntu, Peace and Tropic pretty soon I guess [09:31] What type of projects have you guys worked on? [09:31] Zoohouse: mainly core distro artwork [09:31] Zoohouse: but there's a lot more done during Edgy [09:32] fschoep: oohh very nice i like blubuntu :) [09:32] Zoohouse: Human theme, three side themes, new sounds, Firefox themes, Human iconset expansion, HighCon iconset work [09:32] nysosym: Blubuntu is an awesome theme, I've been using it for a large part of the evening since I just packaged it :) [09:33] How do you guys provide the art work? Do you provide it to the ubuntu team or do you offer it to the end users as a DL? [09:33] fschoep: shure, but i think that would never be a default "ubuntu" color, because "kubuntu" is blue.. :-/ [09:33] Zoohouse: we're doing distro work mainly [09:33] Zoohouse: I'm in close contact with Daniel Holbach for packaging and uploading our work [09:34] nysosym: indeed, but it's good to have Blubuntu added to the mix now [09:35] fschoep: yes :))) , back to usplash, any chance to get a "ubuntu" version of the "kubuntu" style? :) [09:35] Maybe, can you make one? [09:35] ;) [09:36] hmm, i dont know, but i will try it :) [09:36] http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/radial-light_overlay.gif [09:36] 5.Oct is feature freaze :((( [09:36] That's what I'm trying to get in there [09:36] 7 september was feature freeze [09:37] fschoep: O.o a LOT nicer than the kubuntu one :)))) [09:37] ;) [09:37] I need to see it working first though [09:38] i think this should be possible :) [09:38] Indeed, but someone's gotta step up and do it. [09:38] msikma did the graphics, I cropped them and Seveas should now implement it [09:38] Not sure where we stand though [09:39] wow, i could watch these "artwork" every hour a day :D [09:39] Hehe [09:39] hour=time [09:39] That's not the one. [09:39] wow.. I'm a little confused though... See, when I created the team in 2005, I stepped away from the team (I was alone at the time) since launchpad was still in beta. Then I started school and what not and lost interest since no one seemed to join and help out, not to mention that the folks at #launchpad were not too friendly. How/why did people join a inactive team instead of building a new one? [09:39] That's an old version. [09:39] msikma: I know, but it comes close right? [09:39] http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/final/usplash_rlsl_7.gif [09:39] OK, you win - I didn't have the link ready [09:40] I also made a Kubuntu one, but I'm not sure if anyone ever looked at it. http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/final/kubuntu_rlsl_6.gif [09:40] Probably doesn't fit in with their style, anyway. [09:40] msikma: I saw the Kubuntu one and it's almost as good as the Ubuntu one except for the logo :) [09:40] Did I use a bad version of the logo? [09:40] msikma: did you ever hear something from Seveas? Should I try to get in touch with him again? [09:40] I just pulled whichever one I could find. [09:41] msikma: although a very very good work, but i prefer the "light" effect of the old one, but the logo placement is much better in the new one :) [09:41] msikma: No, it's the Kubuntu logo, it was a joke. [09:41] Actually, no. I've been pretty busy, so I haven't really paid attention. [09:41] msikma: No problem, I'll try to sort it out. [09:41] Ah, hehe [09:41] msikma: You were going to California, right / wrong? [09:41] I'm sorry that I'm a little, er, unwilling to handle that side of Ubuntu Art. [09:41] Not me. [09:41] I'm staying in Rotterdam. [09:42] Funny thing is we're all (you, Dennis and I) from NL and we're talking English almost all of the time. [09:42] I feel so out of touch. [09:42] I don't even know where we stand at Ubuntu Art. [09:42] Oh, no problem. Do you want an update? [09:43] yes :D [09:43] Then I got a message from Troy about the fact some of the art won't be accepted (which, arguably, might also be a very good thing; I simply don't know since I haven't been around to check the integrity of all submitted art). === matt8806suomi [n=matt@dsl-jklgw1-fef4de00-58.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:43] I'm a little lost. But you don't need to update me right now; I'm working on something. I'll be sure to listen to an explanation later, though. [09:43] OK, great. [09:43] nysosym: sorry ;) [09:43] (And this is supposed to be done yesterday.) :) [09:44] msikma: We're getting on the right track though, so we'll probably have acceptable artwork for release. [09:44] I can tell... I wrote this ActionScript... a year ago? It's terrible. [09:44] fschoep: hmm okay, i like it to try ^^ [09:44] I was planning on just ignoring most of the process, coming up with my own theme, and somehow submitting it, whether for main artwork or as a separate package. Either way, I'd just like to show how I would do it. [09:45] msikma: I know, that's the easiest way to get something in :) [09:45] msikma: I'm packaging the Theme Team stuff right now [09:45] I wish I knew how to GDM/Metacity. [09:46] *looks very happy* :D [09:46] You rip an existing one, modify some gfx and give it to me :) [09:46] nysosym: hi there :) [09:46] That's what the others did [09:47] hi msikma :) [09:47] fschoep: I perhaps could do that. I wonder how long it'll take. I usually end up too tired after work to do serious stuff except when it's business. [09:47] My GDM is pretty complicated, though. [09:47] I think. [09:47] msikma: I understand, and indeed GDM and GTK/Metacity is nuts [09:47] I see that Troy James Sobotka is now the team owner [09:47] where can i watch them msikma (the GDM theme) :) [09:47] Zoohouse: indeed [09:47] nysosym: wait two days, they'll be in main then [09:48] I think* [09:48] nysosym: I'll upload my mockup [09:48] 2 day, a long time. ^^ :) [09:48] msikma: thx :) [09:49] its very good too see any "action" in this channel. :))) [09:49] Right :) [09:50] Zoohouse: you might enjoy reading this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan [09:50] http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/michielgtk14.png <-- hmm, this is not the latest version, but it's only one I have online right now. Some things have already been changed since then. [09:50] (sliders, scroll bars are way different now) [09:50] (I've also modified the inactive tabs) [09:51] Here's how the sliders work in the new version: http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/slider_test.png [09:51] fschoep: Im glad i wasn't kicked out of the group or I might have known the fate of the team. heh [09:51] msikma: ohh very lovely! :) [09:51] Zoohouse: :) [09:51] Zoohouse: are you looking to join the action again? [09:52] nysosym: thank you :) [09:52] Unfortunately, that's currently the extent of my abilities. [09:52] As far as GDM goes, that is. [09:52] GTK you mean? [09:53] msikma: i like your abilities ;) [09:53] fschoep: I will sure try. By they way have you seen Xara yet? Its a killer vector app. [09:53] Zoohouse: yes, Xara is very good. [09:54] Zoohouse: current Edgy artwork was made with Xara [09:54] oh? [09:54] er, GTK [09:54] :P === Cadet [n=Cadet@user-514d7597.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:54] msikma: no problem, I was a bit confused by your message :) [09:55] fschoep: where can i get xara? :) [09:55] nysosym: xaraxtreme.org [09:55] nysosym: enjoy! [09:56] i use inkscape only at moment and miss many features.. [09:56] ohh cool, big thx :) [09:56] It's time for a good old... "what are you listening to?" [09:56] But with a twist. [09:56] This time, it's "What are you listening to and what are you drinking?" [09:57] I'm listening to Tom Waits - Telephone Call from Istanbul while drinking English tea with milk., [09:57] Oh dear, sounds like a standard forum thing, not :)? [09:57] Well I'm listening to Lyla by Oasis on iTunes, drinking nothing. [09:57] The Killers - Sam's Town and a lot of coffee :D [09:57] Nah, it's more like an IRC/blog thing. [09:58] I used to drink a lot of coffee. But not anymore. I think it's because I became more picky. [09:58] I ordered an Apple USB keyboard so I can use my Macbook in clamshell mode on my big screen [09:59] Wish me luck [09:59] Good luck :) [09:59] *wish luck* [09:59] G'nite. [09:59] Thanks [09:59] He Cadet [09:59] You've only just joined us [09:59] I'm getting tired of this Apple keyboard. I'm getting a different one. [09:59] *although use a macbook* :))) [10:00] Ever since I started working on Edgy I've used a Macbook with OS X. Feels a bit weird :) [10:00] sure, OSX is very nice edgy although i think [10:00] fschoep: When users create the art, how do they send it in for review? Do they just place it in the wiki? [10:00] I used to always work on Windows due to the cost of an Apple. Now I'm running an Intel iMac 20" inch and happily dual booting with Ubuntu. [10:00] Zoohouse: yes, and post to the ML [10:01] msikma: Ubuntu boots natively on those machines? [10:01] Cool, downloading a vital file for this project I'm working on at a _stunning_ 500 bytes/s. [10:01] fschoep: bash me but i preffer OSX a little bit *duck and run* [10:01] I can't get mine to boot graphically [10:01] fschoep: sure, but you need to fix it up after you get it. [10:01] I hope that Edgy will fix that. [10:01] msikma: I see [10:01] It's terrible. [10:01] I remember Warty making me do that. I didn't expect Dapper to. [10:01] msikma: Indeed [10:02] msikma: I could stand Ubuntu on my MB, but Windows is a no-go [10:02] hmm edgy works fine on mine macbook :) [10:02] I still have Windows, but on an emulator. [10:02] msikma: like, Parallels? [10:02] nysosym: glad to hear that :) [10:02] or VMware on Ubuntu? [10:02] fschoep: I experimented with Parallels, and it's brilliant, but I felt bad about using it so I'm now using Q (with Qemu frontend). [10:03] Why feel bad using Parallels? [10:03] Because I never paid for it. [10:03] Me neither, I've got zillions of trial codes though [10:03] I was considering purchasing it [10:03] Because it's a very useful tool for development [10:03] Bah, even 500 bytes/s wasn't good enough. The download got interrupted. [10:04] Qemu works excellently. It's a free and open source emulator. It's slower than Parallels, but it works. [10:04] msikma: right, maybe I'll try that one in the future [10:04] Right now, I only have and need OS X on my MB [10:04] http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ [10:04] Something to check out if you have the time. If you have Parallels, it's not necessary. [10:04] I know QEMU, been using it for ages on Linux before VMware player went free [10:04] Unless you want to run it on Ubuntu. [10:04] Ah :) [10:05] VMware player > Parallels [10:05] I was kind of surprised that such a major emulator was around. [10:05] But they're making progress [10:05] why u didn use bootcamp fschoep? [10:05] Because I didn't get Ubuntu booting natively without hassles [10:06] I feel your pain. [10:06] And I don't want to futz around too much, if it doesn't work I choose something else [10:06] It's terrible to have to mess with that. [10:06] And on top of that, OS X is all I need for work [10:06] I can run Edgy on my workstation [10:06] hmm strange, edgy works well here [10:06] OS X is leaps ahead on many fronts [10:06] But that's another discussion [10:06] sure i love osx ^^ [10:07] I use my Macbook live on stage for DSP processing [10:07] Somehow I don't see Ubuntu doing that anytime soon [10:08] Not until the art team is given more freedom, anyway. [10:08] linux is very very good, no question. But OSX is better i think [10:08] Well, it depends [10:08] OS X has a good commercial software selection [10:09] Apple makes some nice software like iLife and iWork [10:09] If the artwork team is granted freedom, we will be able to actually position Ubuntu on the market in a different way than "linux distro". [10:09] But the Linux kernel is probably better than Darwin [10:09] That should bootstrap it in the consumer market. [10:09] msikma: I see, tell Mark that :) [10:09] It's very easy to say that in two sentences on IRC. [10:10] I've been meaning to write it down in detail. The sole reason why I haven't done that is because I think it will be dismissed. [10:10] Right, I feel your pain [10:10] "Fix Edgy kthxbye" [10:10] I think you do. [10:10] No, that's just kidding [10:11] Unfortunately, I don't have any marketing credentials, but I've at least had one year of a marketing education, and a general interest in it in general (I quit because I wanted to design.) [10:11] general in genera [10:11] hmm [10:11] Maybe you could try talking to Corey? [10:11] Does he do marketing? [10:11] He's in the martketing team. [10:11] Yes, Burgundavia on IRC. [10:11] Well then I should kick his ass. [10:11] Liked by some, despised by others :) [10:12] He hasn't done a good job in convincing Mark that design is the absolute most important aspect of a product's marketing strategy by far. [10:12] hehe ^^ [10:12] :) [10:12] I'm not kidding or trying to help out my team. [10:12] This is truth. [10:13] I see, you should talk to troy_s about him :) [10:14] I'm just trying to do what I think needs doing and sometimes it goes well and other times it goes a bit awry. [10:14] When I uploaded Troy's design (current) the Canonical Deathstar fired at me :) [10:14] Well, we're fixing it for now [10:15] Ohhh [10:15] nysosym: what's up my brother? === matt8806suomi [n=matt@dsl-jklgw1-fef4de00-58.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Ex-Chat"] [10:15]