[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63441 in gcc-4.1 (main) "libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `_Unwind_GetIPInfo@GCC_4.2.0'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63441
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63442 in gnome-power-manager (main) "g-p-m only works when plugged in" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63442
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63443 in evolution-data-server (main) "don't enable gnome-keyring support in eds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63443
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63444 in firefox (main) "open with doesnt give expected gnome result" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63444
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63445 in xorg (main) "When editing xorg.conf for logitech mouse, wacom settings are added, and I'm locked out of X server." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63445
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63446 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "tifm_7xx1 doesn't load tifm_sd, no SD out-of-the-box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63446
[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63447 in ipkungfu (universe) "on edgy it fails to start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63447
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63448 in vim (main) "[edgy]  command tab-completion broken in vim" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63448
[01:10] <nictuku> can one send non-english reports to malone?
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63450 in update-manager (main) "acpid install fails, upgrading from dapper to edgy beta." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63450
[01:13] <_ion> Everybody speaks English. Using some other language reduces the probability of someone investigating/fixing the bug.
[01:13] <gnomefreak> nictuku: its not a good idea
[01:14] <nictuku> sure, but if one doesn't know english, it's better to report in non-english and do not report, right?
[01:14] <nictuku> s/and/then/
[01:15] <nictuku> maybe someone latter can help translating that
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63451 in f-spot (main) "Canon EOS 300 RAW images rotated wrongly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63451
[01:23] <gnomefreak> nictuku: you seem to speak english fine
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63453 in update-manager (main) "update-manager broke when I try to upgrade Ubuntu from 6.06 to 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63453
[01:27] <nictuku> gnomefreak, my point is, what about thousands of users who don't?
[01:27] <nictuku> the context:
 I have this idea of setting up a pt_BR team for QA, to work as an interface to users who can't write reports in english in the LP, and to help foster people using malone aproprietly.
 nictuku: that sounds like a cool idea
 nictuku: Good, I was also thinking of setting a similar group for pl_PL
[01:28] <nictuku> It's important to know if malone is english-only, or not.
[01:28] <gnomefreak> not english only but most triagers are engllish speaking among other lang.
[01:29] <_ion> There's at least one non-English report in Malone already. :-) https://launchpad.net/+bugs/63366
[01:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63366 in openoffice.org "crash beim ffnen einer tabelle" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[01:30] <nictuku> what if we had support for other langauges (maybe using tags), then a team of 'report translators' would translate that to the canonical language.
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63454 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed beyond 95% competion of install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63454
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63455 in ubiquity (main) "Crash during install when reaching 98%" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63455
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63456 in bug-buddy (main) "Bug-buddy won't go away" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63456
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63459 in pango1.0 (main) "pangocairo symbol problems on upgrade from dapper to latest edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63459
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63460 in xen-source-2.6.17 (universe) "xend not starting: FATAL: Module blkbk not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63460
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63461 in mesa-utils (main) "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63461
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63462 in nvidia-settings (restricted) "nvidia-settings doesn't have a .desktop file or icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63462
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63464 in Ubuntu "firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63464
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63465 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63465
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63466 in Ubuntu "Dapper:  Kernel update wipes out grub settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63466
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63467 in sqlrelay (universe) "SQLRelay/PySQLRDB.py has terrible indenting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63467
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63468 in Ubuntu "Package recommendation: gut (etext to html converter)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63468
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63469 in xaralx (multiverse) "can't use xaralx on edgy-ppc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63469
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63470 in evolution (main) "additions to address book are not available from the "To:" button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63470
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63471 in hal (main) "[Edgy] HAL crash on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63471
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63472 in evolution (main) "Top search category in "To:" button should be "Any Category"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63472
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63473 in Ubuntu "Can't Import Photos from Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi  " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63473
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63474 in update-manager (main) "Inconsistent, bad grammar in Edgy's Software Sources (en_CA)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63474
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63475 in update-manager (main) "Third Party repos in Edgy's Software Sources are displayed incorrectly when the comment contains a &" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63475
[04:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63476 in gamin (main) "Crash when umounting an NFS share" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63476
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63477 in synfigstudio (universe) "Synfigstudio crash by startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63477
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63479 in openssh (main) "edgy - ssh client freeze" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63479
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63480 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Logout trouble" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63480
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63481 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel freezes after dist-upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63481
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63483 in gnome-panel (main) "tooltip on desktop switcher behaves incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63483
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63484 in f-spot (main) "f-spot crashes at startup complains about "Unsupported database version"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63484
[05:45] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: get fixing.
[05:45] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: fix my assignment while you're at it.
[05:45] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: I'll be polite & refrain from commenting
[05:45] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63485 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox's cover art plugin should support cover.jpg files like other GNOME music players" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63485
[05:46] <Fujitsu> I want to know how it calculates what colour each nick should be...
[05:46] <Fujitsu> It's the same on every system.
[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63486 in mythplugins (multiverse) "mythphone causes mythfrontend seg fault on amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63486
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63487 in gnome-app-install (main) "Typo in "Checking installed and available applications" dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63487
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63488 in lcdproc (universe) "Errors in both /etc/init.d/LCDd script and /etc/LCDd.conf that break lcdproc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63488
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63489 in mythweb (multiverse) "SQL Error: Column 'seriesid' cannot be null [#1048] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63489
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63490 in mythweb (multiverse) "Error: data/tv_icons directory is not writable by www-data. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63490
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63492 in wine (universe) "wine is registering mime types when it shouldn't be" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63492
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63493 in mythweb (multiverse) "mythweb.postinst: 31: Syntax error: Bad substitution (fix is to use Bash instead)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63493
[06:39] <pschulz01> Afternoon all!
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63482 in amsynth (universe) "program fails to open" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63482
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63494 in spacearyarya (universe) "Graphics are displayed incorrectly on PowerPC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63494
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63495 in Ubuntu "Web browsing a lot slower in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63495
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63496 in update-manager (main) "Upgrading from Dapper to Edgy: could not install 'spring-basedata'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63496
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63497 in update-manager (main) "unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63497
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63498 in console-common (main) "Clear screen on Logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63498
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63499 in firefox (main) "Firefox cannot spell Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63499
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63500 in xorg (main) "Latest xorg does not work with savage driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63500
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63501 in beagle (main) "memory leak in beagled?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63501
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63502 in gtk-engines-lighthouseblue (universe) "Highlighted combobox almost invisible in LightHouseBlue theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63502
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63503 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "graphics lockups with radeon DRI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63503
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63504 in Ubuntu "Same bug in Edgy than bug 51164 of Dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63504
[09:43] <cbx33> hey people I have a problem and I'm not sure if it's hardware or software
[09:44] <cbx33> the top 40 odd pixel rows in my X session seem to have been replaced by the last row of my X session
[09:45] <cbx33> If I do a print screen it's fine.....does this mean it must be a hardware issue ?
[09:48] <pepsiman> could still be a driver issue
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63505 in coreutils (main) "dd segmentation fault when receiving a USR1 signal." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63505
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63506 in adduser (main) "Mistake in adduser.conf manpage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63506
[09:51] <pepsiman> Ubugtu: oh no, another dd segfault report
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63507 in usplash (main) "No theme for 640x480 found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63507
[09:58] <cbx33> pepsiman: any way for me to confirm?
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63508 in Ubuntu "Edgy Eft does not install LAN-Express IEEE 802.11b Wireless LAN correctly (anymore)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63508
[10:02] <pepsiman> cbx33: try framebuffer mode, try another OS, ...
[10:04] <dholbach> good morning
[10:05] <cbx33> hi dholbach
[10:05] <dholbach> hey cbx33
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63509 in firefox (main) "crash when changing windows" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63509
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63510 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  German translation of boot screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63510
[10:24] <pschulz01> dholbach: I have added a patch for #63506 - what now?
[10:24] <dholbach> bug 63506
[10:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63506 in adduser "Mistake in adduser.conf manpage" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63506
[10:25] <pschulz01> (That one ^)
[10:28] <dholbach> pschulz01: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019922.html
[10:32] <pschulz01> dholbach: Sooo..... I allocate the bug to the ' Ubuntu Sponsors for main' ?
[10:32] <dholbach> yes, adduser is in main
[10:33] <pepsiman> pschulz01: pound is correct in american
[10:35] <pschulz01> pepsiman: Hmm.. I've always known it as 'hash'.. I just checked the 'bash' manpage and they don't call it anything, rather just use the character.
[10:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63511 in at-spi (main) "firefox crash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63511
[10:37] <dholbach> urg, at-spi - firefox crash?
[10:41] <pepsiman> pschulz01: in the en_GB translation, I'll use hash
[10:42] <pschulz01> pepsiman: :-)
[10:43] <pepsiman> btw, anyone know where translated manpages end up?
[10:45] <pschulz01> What is the package/software for the initial CD boot? (looking into #63510)
[10:49] <pschulz01> pepsiman: I haven't got a clue. In the adduser package there is ./doc/po4a/po which seems to have manpage translations in it.
[10:49] <pschulz01> pepsiman: .. or just the 'po' strings, I should say.
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63512 in linux-meta (main) "Yakumo QuickStick Basic DVB-T is not recogized (ID 14aa:0225 / 14aa:0226)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63512
[10:56] <pepsiman> pschulz01: there are no en_GB manpages in ubuntu :(
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63513 in usplash (main) "Boot splash looks broken." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63513
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63514 in coreutils (main) "dd reporting Segmentation Fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63514
[11:10] <pepsiman> Ubugtu: not another one
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63515 in scim-pinyin (main) "Typo in skim-scim-pinyin string (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63515
[11:16] <pschulz01> pepsiman: sorry.. just popped out..
[11:16] <pschulz01> pepsiman: We will have to create some :-)
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63516 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "ICH8 doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63516
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63517 in kdebase (main) "kcontrol monitor and display settings module cannot start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63517
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63519 in ubiquity (main) "Slave HD not recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63519
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63518 in Ubuntu "wrong resolution with Intel 915GM; 915resolution is ineffective; restarting gdm required every time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63518
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63520 in langpack-locales (main) "es_MX's LC_MONETARY is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63520
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63521 in baobab (universe) "[Edgy Knot 3]  baobab text field not editable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63521
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63522 in gnome-screensaver (main) "gdm instead of password prompt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63522
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63523 in Ubuntu "EDGY Menu management: hard to move items up and down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63523
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63524 in alacarte (main) "EDGY: the item Gnome control center is duplicated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63524
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63525 in Ubuntu "USB ports inactive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63525
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63526 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "fail to resume after suspend to RAM on HP NX8220" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63526
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63527 in python-support (main) "UVF exception & sync request: python-support 0.5.2 from debian/unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63527
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63528 in phpgroupware (universe) "0.9.16.011 debs depend on pgp5-mysql" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63528
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63530 in glib2.0 (main) "ImportError: /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_type_plUgin_complete_interface_info" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63530
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63529 in Baltix (universe) "Automatic dictionary installation doesn't work because file http://opendict.sf.net/Repository/Data/opendict-add-ons.xml is not reacheable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63529
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63531 in powernowd (main) "complete freeze of computer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63531
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63532 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Regression: ACPI broken on Asus A6Km (AMD64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63532
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63533 in kopete (main) "Mistake in kopete string" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63533
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63534 in gedit (main) "GEdit panel errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63534
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63535 in pygobject (main) "ImportError: /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_type_plUgin_complete_interface_info" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63535
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63536 in phpgroupware (universe) "Please sync phpgroupware (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63536
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63537 in apport (main) "Crash notifier daemon crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63537
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63538 in apport (main) "xchat crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63538
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63539 in Ubuntu "Can't burn CD-RW, CD-R etc in Gnome in Edgy Beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63539
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63540 in update-notifier (main) "don't show updates for locked packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63540
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63541 in usplash (main) "edgy eft usplash does not switch to kdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63541
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63542 in revelation (universe) "Show passwords item error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63542
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63543 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[edgy]  brightness auto dim error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63543
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63544 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63544
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63545 in glom (universe) "UVF: 1.1.2 -> 1.1.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63545
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63546 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Display, Disk and Filesystems, Services control modules not loading" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63546
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63547 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "The cd burning dialog can be closed, and does not ask for confirmation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63547
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63548 in bandwidthd (universe) "Please update to the latest version from Debian Unstable - Edgys -6 version is miserably broken." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63548
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63549 in evolution (main) "Calendar event rendering glitches - shadow not right" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63549
[02:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63550 in acpi (main) "[EDGY]  ACPI: Unable to turn cooling..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63550
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63551 in xorg (main) "X.org doesn't detect widescreen resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63551
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63555 in preload (universe) "Please sync preload (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63555
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63553 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Ricoh R5C822 reader only works when booted with card inserted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63553
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63554 in xchat-gnome (main) "[edgy]  cannot click on URLs in the channel topic bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63554
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63556 in Ubuntu "Attaching USB mass storage device fails with device descriptor read/64, error -71" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63556
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63558 in usplash (main) "Latest usplash leaves my consoles corrupted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63558
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63559 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Have to reinstall nvidia kernel module on reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63559
[02:44] <seb128> bug flood :/
[02:45] <dholbach> yeah :/
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63561 in rats (universe) "Segmentation fault when auditing code" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63561
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63562 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror + Kate = Weirdness" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63562
[02:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63560 in xorg (main) "installing 915resolution for the correct resolution shouldn't be necessary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63560
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63563 in glibc (main) "I think glib c - ihmc cmap tools broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63563
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63564 in nautilus-open-terminal (universe) "When used on desktop, it opens the terminal to the home foler" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63564
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63565 in kdeartwork (main) "kscreensaver shows garbage in dual screen mode in the area which is not 3d (opengl) capable." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63565
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63566 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "noflushd incompatible with gnome desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63566
[03:12] <txwikinger2> how do I best submit a suggestion for a missing package dependency ?
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62695 in gdb (main) "CVE-2006-4146 GDB buffer overflow in dwarf stack handling" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62695
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63567 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63567
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63568 in gtranslator (main) "[edgy]  gTranslator window width explodes over long lines" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63568
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63569 in ubiquity (main) "going back to timezone screen forces timezone to New York" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63569
[03:41] <bddebian> Boo
[03:43] <_ion> That, too.
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63570 in firefox (main) "Firefox 2.0b2 crashes when loading anything with Flash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63570
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63571 in ubiquity (main) "sorry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63571
[03:56] <_ion> "sorry" :-D
[03:57] <cbx33> well that's helpful ;)
[04:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63572 in update-manager (main) "gksu dependency missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63572
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63573 in Ubuntu "Mute LED doesn't work [HP NX 6120] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63573
[04:10] <beerockxs> Hi there, I'm having a weird problem when resuming from suspend to ram. Whenever I do, lots of programs take several minutes to start, but some don't exhibit this behaviour. Against which package should I report this bug?
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63574 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Dim on battery doesn't work as expected [HP NX 6120] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63574
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63576 in epiphany-browser (main) "Epiphany doesn't work with some Javascript/Ajax sites" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63576
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63577 in Ubuntu "[edgy]  Freeze when switching to vt or selecting shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63577
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63578 in ubiquity (main) "detects two harddisks, but can only choose one harddisk in "manually edit partition table"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63578
[04:34] <dholbach> xerxas: Ubugtu announces new bugs, as they trickle in
[04:34] <zul> hey dholbach
[04:35] <dholbach> hey zul
[04:35] <zul> how is it going?
[04:36] <dholbach> a bit tired but good - how are you?
[04:36] <xerxas> dholbach,  yep , cool !
[04:36] <xerxas> :)
[04:37] <zul> good tired busy weekend with 2.6.17
[04:38] <dholbach> I can imagine
[04:38] <dholbach> 2.16.1 here ;-)
[04:39] <zul> heh
[04:39] <zul> but its uploaded finally thank god
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63580 in evolution (main) "Clicking on a url in a mail message does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63580
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63582 in acidrip (multiverse) "Crop detection fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63582
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63581 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade to 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63581
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63583 in update-manager (main) "Problem with upgrading to Edgy Eft" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63583
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63584 in xorg-air (universe) "Freeze when switching to VT in AIGLX" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63584
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63585 in Ubuntu "Whole system freezes when using netgear wg111v2 wifi adaper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63585
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63586 in python-soappy (main) "Error while installing python-soappy on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63586
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63587 in rhythmbox (main) "Can't queue a song more than once in Rhythmbox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63587
[05:40] <matid> Hello bug squashers
[05:40] <dsas> hello matid
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63588 in banshee (universe) "banshee can play certain files, but won't add them to library" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63588
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63589 in gnome-power-manager (main) "g.p.m. repeats "battery is fully chanrged" message..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63589
[05:58] <gnomefreak> dholbach: has doko been around today?
[05:58] <dholbach> gnomefreak: sure
[05:58] <dholbach> gnomefreak: try #ubuntu-devel
[05:59] <gnomefreak> i had a bug i wanted to ask him about
[05:59] <gnomefreak> ok
[05:59] <dholbach> and "doko_"
[05:59] <dholbach> cool
[05:59] <gnomefreak> ty
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63591 in pychecker (main) "pychecker 0.8.17 failed to build since July 2006" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63591
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63592 in Ubuntu "[edgy]  boot with "single" option shows the text of the typed root password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63592
[06:17] <BjornT> sfllaw, seb128: ping
[06:17] <seb128> BjornT: pong
[06:19] <BjornT> so. i'm currently doing some work on linking to remote bugs in launchpad. one of the changes is to accept urls to be entered instead of specifying bug id + bug tracker.
[06:20] <dholbach> BjornT: nice
[06:20] <seb128> BjornT: you rock
[06:20] <dholbach> sfllaw: next hug day wednesday?
[06:21] <BjornT> the ui gets more complex if you can link both using a url, and specifying the bug tracker manually. do you guys be ok with only being able to specify a url (i.e., it wouldn't be possible any more to specify a bug + bug tracker separately)
[06:21] <BjornT> for example, do you often now the bug id, but not the url?
[06:21] <seb128> no
[06:22] <seb128> I usually have a browser open on bugzilla
[06:22] <seb128> and copy the URL
[06:22] <seb128> and then delete everything before the number
[06:22] <seb128> then click on the box
[06:22] <seb128> and pick the bug tracker :p
[06:22] <dholbach> same for me
[06:22] <seb128> so "just copy the URL" would be nice :)
[06:22] <BjornT> ok, that sounds good. how about debbugs bugs, though?
[06:24] <dholbach> a URL is fine too - the only problem I can see that we might need to be able to specify alternate URLs
[06:24] <dholbach> like bugzilla.gnome.org, bugs.gnome.org - just in case people get it wrong
[06:24] <dholbach> or rather make malone clever enough to understand both
[06:25] <BjornT> yeah, alternative urls is problematic today. but it shouldn't be hard to add bug tracker aliases.
[06:26] <dholbach> rock and roll
[06:26] <dholbach> Malone is so good and sweet
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63595 in acidrip (multiverse) "acidrip should provide xvid defaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63595
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63594 in gaim (main) "Crashes when uploading file over AIM protocol (files in excess of 500k)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63594
[06:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63593 in evolution-jescs (universe) "UVF: 2.8.0 -> 2.8.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63593
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63596 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[services-admin]  apache2 service not listed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63596
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63597 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 6.10 beta ppc doesn't recognize the audio card in iBook G3 dual USB." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63597
[06:44] <sfllaw> dholbach: Uhm.  In 8 days, according to Fridge.
[06:44] <sfllaw> dholbach: Do you want one this Wednesday?
[06:44] <dholbach> we should have them weekly now
[06:44] <sfllaw> I suppose the beta might deserve it.
[06:44] <dholbach> we have release in 3-4 weeks
[06:44] <sfllaw> Fair enough.
[06:44] <sfllaw> I'll send an e-mail to fridge-devel.
[06:45] <dholbach> rock and roll
[06:45] <dholbach> we're going to see some hardcore busquad action until then
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63598 in python2.4 (main) "[Edgy]  python2.4-minimal raises ValueError 'empty set of versions'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63598
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63599 in firefox (main) "Firefox-Javascript: oncontextmenu not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63599
[06:47] <dholbach> started with 1300 unread desktop-bugs mail this morning, now i'm at 875
[06:47] <dholbach> *phew*
[06:50] <matid> Good luck :)
[06:51] <shenki> thanks for the fix to 62739 seb128 :)
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63601 in xserver-xgl (universe) "DPMS fails when running Xgl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63601
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63602 in xserver-xgl (universe) "aticonfig command fails under Xgl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63602
[07:20] <seb128> shenki: np
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63603 in acroread (multiverse) "Fails to load in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63603
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63605 in beagle (main) "Unable to create indexes for applications and documentation updating from dapper to edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63605
[07:45] <bluefoxicy> hey libpng doesn't have the symbol png_write_finish_row
[07:46] <bluefoxicy> it's in png.h and it's also in the source but for some reason it's simply not exported..?
[07:46] <bluefoxicy> (povray 3.6 demands it)
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63604 in telepathy-butterfly (universe) "UVF - 0.1.0 doesn't work" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63604
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63606 in littlewizard (universe) "Dont start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63606
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63607 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "PCI error updating region, on ECS P965T-A mobo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63607
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63608 in tetex-bin (main) "improper expansion of shell variables" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63608
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63611 in xrdb (main) "xrdb crashes on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63611
[08:27] <pricechild> scramble!
[08:27] <pricechild> :P
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63612 in gnome-vfs (universe) "No translation for devices in computer:// location" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63612
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63613 in firefox (main) "[edgy]  crash to apport while I was doing something else" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63613
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63614 in nautilus (main) "No 'Paste into folder' option in the menu of a mounted device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63614
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63615 in kdebase (main) "wrong keyboard behavior at first login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63615
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63616 in language-pack-gnome-fr-base (main) "incorrect translation in workrave" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63616
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63617 in upgrade-system (universe) "crash while removing packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63617
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63618 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "atheros laptop LED not activated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63618
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63619 in Ubuntu "[edgy]  text-mode installer - Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63619
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63620 in xchat (universe) "Crashes On Exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63620
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63621 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "HTML inside many blog posts not recognised as such" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63621
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63626 in udev (main) "udev did convert my lvm on raid filesystems in /etc/fstab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63626
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63627 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Graphic Acceleration dont work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63627
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63622 in Ubuntu "Update To Edgy fails and needs manual intervention" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63622
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63623 in Ubuntu "gksu "update-manager -c -d"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63623
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63625 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "edgy - nvidia-glx install causes x to fail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63625
[10:26] <mc44> hmm should the numerous bug reports about update-manager not working due to xgl/compiz repos be rejected?
[10:27] <kristog> mc44: i guess this are not ubuntu bugs..
[10:27] <kristog> imho
[10:28] <sfllaw> kristog: compiz is now in universe, though.
[10:28] <mc44> yeah, but lots of people aren't going to be able to upgrade because of this :-/
[10:28] <kristog> sfllaw: ^ ;)
[10:29] <matid> sfllaw: But these are update-manager bugs caused by an external repo, not really compiz bugs, AFIAK
[10:29] <matid> s/AFIAK/AFAIK/
[10:29] <mc44> im sure mvo will do something about it when he has to reject the 1000th bug report :)
[10:30] <kristog> :)
[10:30] <matid> mc44: You should probably mark those bugs as duplicates of 58424
[10:30] <matid> Bug 58424
[10:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58424 in update-manager "Can't calculate the upgrade with unofficial mesa/compiz packages " [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58424
[10:30] <mc44> or at least put something in the release notes (for two people that read them)
[10:31] <mc44> mat,  great thanks :)
[10:31] <mc44> matid ^^
[10:31] <matid> mc44: Of course if that's the same problem
[10:31] <matid> But most likely yes
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63632 in belpic (universe) "Incorrect root certificate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63632
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63624 in telepathy-gabble (universe) "please accept the new upstream release of telepathy-gabble" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63624
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63628 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "no boot on Kernal images post linux-image-2.6.17-6-386 on Dell Inspiron 7500" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63628
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63629 in gdebi (main) "Version text is highlighted while it shoudn't be" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63629
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63630 in boot (universe) "Edgy Eft Beta boot logo corrupt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63630
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63631 in openssh (main) "does not connect without username" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63631
[10:54] <matid> Hi gnomefreak
[10:55] <gnomefreak> hi
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63634 in wlassistant (main) "Can not set up WPA-PSK in wlassistant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63634
[11:01] <finalbeta> !bug 57156
[11:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57156 in vino "Screen refresh problem." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/57156
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug 57156 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <finalbeta> That one can be closed for me. I reported it, but in edgy it's no longer a problem.
[11:02] <mc44> finalbeta, you can close it yourself
[11:03] <mc44> finalbeta, chane the status to rejected or fix released as appropriate
[11:05] <finalbeta> mc44, I'm looking, but how?
[11:05] <mc44> click on the package name (i.e. vino) then select from the drop down box saying status
[11:06] <finalbeta> Ok, thnx. didn't know I could do that.
[11:06] <mc44> finalbeta, np
[11:08] <finalbeta> Importance can't be changed by normal users right?
[11:09] <mc44> finalbeta, only members of the qa team, right
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63635 in pitivi (universe) "The program 'pitivi' received an X Window System error." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63635
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63636 in hardinfo (universe) "Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63636
[11:28] <matid> finalbeta: But if you do feel that some bug should be assigned some importance feel free to say it here. Someone from QA will do this for you.
[11:28] <matid> Of course if your decision is good ;)
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63637 in evolution (main) "crash while closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63637
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63638 in Ubuntu "Toshiba Laptop Freezes on Shutdown or Reboot in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63638
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63640 in Ubuntu "X -br -audit don't work and don't crash. Black screen, no possibility to use CTRL+ALT+F<x>" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63640
[11:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63639 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Edgy beta 1: scaling_available_frequencies list incomplete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63639
[11:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63641 in gnome-netstatus (main) "Wireless strength indicator is huge with the default theme." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63641
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63642 in gparted (main) "Hard disk not visible in gparted and Ubuntu installer in live cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63642
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63643 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu Edgy doesn't unmount CDs properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63643
[11:58] <matid> Good night, BugSquad
[11:58] <finalbeta> matid, I feel bug 61147 should get looked after. It's only a broken feature of Totem. But I know many will suffer from it. (seen reports on the forums, but most don't report to bugtrack) I've decided to post it upstream.
[11:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61147 in totem "edgy: totem can no longer stream from samba share" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/61147
[11:59] <matid> finalbeta: Good
[12:00] <seb128> finalbeta: we get hundred of bugs a week for few people working on them, looking at them take some time
[12:01] <seb128> finalbeta: thank you for pointing it though ;)
[12:01] <seb128> finalbeta: to be honest I doubt anybody from the desktop team will look at it before edgy, we have already a long list and only 3-4 people are working on desktopish apps atm
[12:02] <seb128> finalbeta: might have a better chance to point it upstream, get them fixing it and asking for a backport of the patch
[12:02] <finalbeta> Yep. That's what i'll try now.
[12:02] <seb128> cool
[12:02] <finalbeta> First time I did this, didn't know normal users could change that much.