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| Burgundavia | http://mag.mypclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13 | 02:40 |
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| poningru | Burgundavia: the book you guys wrote was cc? | 04:45 |
| Burgundavia | poningru: yes | 04:46 |
| poningru | grr | 04:51 |
| poningru | I asked the publisher and they said it was copyrighted all rights | 04:51 |
| tonyyarusso | It says Copyright 2007 Canonical, Ltd. ; This book is published under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 open publication license. <URL> | 04:53 |
| tonyyarusso | (How can it be copyrighted a year that hasn't happened yet?) | 04:53 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, interesting | 04:56 |
| tonyyarusso | Does say "All rights reserved" right after that too. | 04:56 |
| tonyyarusso | Then the standard "This publication is protected by copyright, and permission must be optained from the publisher prior to any prohibited reproduction, storage in a retrieval system, or transmission in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or likewise unless permitted under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license 2.0. For information regarding permissions, write to: <address> | 04:58 |
| tonyyarusso | Burgundavia: That all seems somewhat self-contradictory to me. | 04:58 |
| tonyyarusso | (Although I'm not familiar with the text of that license.) | 04:58 |
| poningru | hmm weird | 04:59 |
| poningru | I asked the Florida rep for the publisher | 04:59 |
| poningru | and she was like yeah all our books are fully copyrighted | 04:59 |
| poningru | I never got a chance to take a look at a physical copy | 04:59 |
| tonyyarusso | Well I'd assume it's copyrighted for real, but I don't think it's "All rights reserved". | 05:03 |
| elkbuntu | conspiracy! | 05:15 |
| Madpilot | stuff can be both copyrighted & CC-licenced | 05:16 |
| elkbuntu | Madpilot, read what tonyyarusso said.. it sorta seems to contradict | 05:17 |
| Madpilot | not really - the "...unless permitted under..." is the key here | 05:18 |
| elkbuntu | hmm.. suppose | 05:19 |
| Madpilot | I did a seminar thru my union on reading legal docs; it's proven to be the best thing the union ever did for me :) | 05:19 |
| elkbuntu | heh | 05:20 |
| elkbuntu | oh how i love how angus&robertson put stuff into their db.. like keep a single format for the whole of a field, dont be stupid "Author: Benjamin; Bacon, Jono; Burger, Corey & others Hill" | 05:22 |
| Madpilot | hah! | 05:22 |
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| elkbuntu | http://www.angusrobertson.com.au/search/results.asp?searchbycriteria=ubuntu&searchby=title&submit_search.x=0&submit_search.y=0&submit_search=search | 05:22 |
| elkbuntu | "& others Hill" is the best bit | 05:23 |
| elkbuntu | cool they list it as a best seller | 05:24 |
| elkbuntu | oh ffs.. it's like it all over the place | 05:27 |
| elkbuntu | heh, another bookshop lists the author as just "Mako" | 05:31 |
| tonyyarusso | I got it at Barnes & Noble, but I had to order; there weren't any in stock. They told me they had hardcover, which turned out not to be true. | 05:32 |
| elkbuntu | heh | 05:33 |
| BHSPitLappy | g'evening all | 05:45 |
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| elkbuntu | bwahaha. book on order :) | 07:33 |
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| === BHSPitLappy yawns | ||
| === poningru too | ||
| BHSPitLappy | do my calculus homework | 08:17 |
| poningru | hehe | 08:17 |
| poningru | crap the UWN | 08:18 |
| BHSPitLappy | uwn? | 08:18 |
| poningru | UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter | 08:34 |
| BHSPitLappy | oh | 08:52 |
| BHSPitLappy | yeah, I'm not much for newsletters | 08:52 |
| Burgundavia | yes, I have been ignoring it as well, been working on my book | 08:59 |
| poningru | 0_o | 09:00 |
| poningru | what are you writing? | 09:00 |
| Burgundavia | erratta for the official book | 09:02 |
| poningru | ah | 09:04 |
| elkbuntu | gah.. what's the url to the schedule/timeline for edgy release? | 09:11 |
| BHSPitLappy | I think wiki page EdgyRelease | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | /EdgyEft/ReleaseSchedule | 09:11 |
| BHSPitLappy | whatever | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | something like that | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | can someone tell me why RB is so crap? | 09:12 |
| elkbuntu | RB? | 09:13 |
| BHSPitLappy | Relative Barometrics | 09:13 |
| Madpilot | RythymBox? | 09:17 |
| Madpilot | RhythymBox, even | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | rhythmbox | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | whiprush: I am making you happy by installing banhsee right now | 09:18 |
| Madpilot | it's still crap even in Edgy, hmm? | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | it just won't play a .pls | 09:18 |
| Madpilot | what the heck is a .pls? | 09:19 |
| Burgundavia | online radio station playlist | 09:19 |
| elkbuntu | Burgundavia, are you takling about how it stops at track changes? | 09:19 |
| Burgundavia | no, it simply won't load them | 09:20 |
| elkbuntu | heh, rude | 09:20 |
| Burgundavia | totem appears to work | 09:21 |
| Burgundavia | why is nautlius using 76% of my cpu with nothing happening? | 09:22 |
| elkbuntu | hmm..how can i answer that and still stay in compliance with the CoC? | 09:25 |
| Burgundavia | you can disparage programs | 09:27 |
| Burgundavia | yes, nautilus is crap | 09:27 |
| elkbuntu | my feelings for it would incite the use of really bad language | 09:27 |
| poningru | what??? | 09:28 |
| Burgundavia | it also lacks a maintainer | 09:28 |
| === poningru <3s Rhythmbox | ||
| poningru | after some hacking ofcourse | 09:28 |
| poningru | but still | 09:28 |
| poningru | teh awesome | 09:28 |
| Burgundavia | rh yanked a bunch of their desktop people for mugshot | 09:28 |
| elkbuntu | poningru, i prefer xmms personally | 09:28 |
| Madpilot | bah. Muine for albums, Totem for everything else here. | 09:29 |
| poningru | RB for my roomates large music collection | 09:29 |
| poningru | rb is the only one that seems to handle the nfs over wireless crappiness well | 09:30 |
| Madpilot | cool, I managed to create a 2.5Mb SVG... neat trick ;) | 09:30 |
| poningru | heh | 09:30 |
| === poningru imagines an essay in the id3 | ||
| Madpilot | actually, 6.3Mb is my largest SVG - it's a big photo converted to SVG | 09:32 |
| poningru | ouch | 09:32 |
| Madpilot | the XFC file it came from was 8.5Mb; the PNG that Inkscape actually used was "only" 5Mb | 09:33 |
| poningru | jeez | 09:38 |
| poningru | how big... | 09:38 |
| poningru | ? | 09:38 |
| jenda | hehe, matthew revell has just posted to the ML an email, and the spamfilter caught it (Subject: Tesco supermarket software) | 10:21 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, odd | 10:24 |
| Burgundavia | but I saw that | 10:24 |
| jenda | It either came through because he already has that email addy as a go-through in there... | 10:25 |
| jenda | ...or someone got to it before I did (it was already through when I was about to let it) | 10:25 |
| poningru | grr | 10:27 |
| poningru | figuring out bzr is the hardest thing in the world | 10:27 |
| jenda | yep :) | 10:29 |
| jenda | What's the matter? | 10:29 |
| jenda | (I only use the three pushing commands, but I recently had an error there...) | 10:29 |
| elkbuntu | poningru, i played the n00b card and got one of the resident -au devs to do it for me : | 10:30 |
| poningru | hehe | 10:31 |
| poningru | jenda: I still dont think I have any rights to upload | 10:31 |
| poningru | I have given up on it now I think | 10:31 |
| poningru | grr | 10:31 |
| poningru | I think I am just gonna host my college stuff on my home server | 10:32 |
| jenda | poningru: what's the error? | 10:32 |
| jenda | I can UL it for you, if I get it to work :-D | 10:32 |
| poningru | dude point me to some docs | 10:34 |
| poningru | if there are any | 10:35 |
| poningru | cause google cant find any | 10:35 |
| jenda | heh... I don't know any :-D | 10:35 |
| jenda | but there's #bzr | 10:35 |
| jenda | and #launchpad | 10:35 |
| jenda | the guys there have always helped me :) | 10:35 |
| jenda | But what's the matter, poningru? | 10:35 |
| poningru | I dont think I can get my gpg to go into launchpad | 10:36 |
| jenda | aha | 10:36 |
| jenda | bzr uses ssh, though | 10:36 |
| poningru | ... | 10:36 |
| poningru | so my rsa? | 10:36 |
| jenda | well you definitely need to have a ssh key in LP: https://launchpad.net/people/poningru/+editsshkeys | 10:37 |
| poningru | Not allowed here | 10:38 |
| poningru | Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. | 10:38 |
| poningru | You are logged in as Poningru. | 10:38 |
| poningru | wtf | 10:38 |
| jenda | gah | 10:39 |
| jenda | that is weird | 10:39 |
| poningru | zomg I think I know what the prob is | 10:39 |
| jenda | ya do | 10:40 |
| poningru | duplicate accounts | 10:40 |
| jenda | aha :) | 10:41 |
| jenda | Ah, I found my problem too. | 10:45 |
| jenda | I was pushing to an old branch (one under my name, not the team's) | 10:45 |
| jenda | pushed :) | 10:46 |
| jenda | poningru: now I can help out, if it doesn't work in the end. | 10:46 |
| poningru | naah I am sure I can figure it out after the merge | 10:47 |
| jenda | ok, cool | 10:47 |
| jenda | I have an extremely weird sleep cycle this weekend... went to bed at 5 AM, got up at 10 AM, went to bed at 4 PM, got up at 10 PM, went to bed at 6 AM, got up at 10 AM :) | 10:48 |
| poningru | thanks though | 10:48 |
| poningru | hehe its 5 here | 10:50 |
| poningru | btw jenda where are you? | 10:50 |
| poningru | I kinda realized this weekend I have no clue where you are | 10:50 |
| jenda | Czech Republic | 10:50 |
| jenda | 10:50 | |
| jenda | and you? | 10:50 |
| poningru | florida us | 10:51 |
| jenda | ok. | 10:51 |
| poningru | and where is menza? | 10:51 |
| jenda | Denmark | 10:54 |
| poningru | ah | 10:59 |
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| jenda | sudo grep "MenZa" irc.freenode.net | 04:33 |
| elkbuntu | o.O | 04:48 |
| jenda | Right, I didn't need the sudo, probably. | 04:50 |
| jenda | It felt more powerful that way, though. | 04:50 |
| jenda | Still no luck :) | 04:50 |
| jenda | He forgot the stickers in Denmark, so will have to snailmail them. I wanted to prod him :) | 04:50 |
| elkbuntu | hehe | 04:50 |
| jenda | ...because I'm being prodded meself. | 04:51 |
| elkbuntu | im trying to decide whether to respond to the flame i got on sounder | 04:53 |
| jenda | This one: "Small typo, the address is http://surveys.geekosophical.net/ "? | 04:55 |
| jenda | :) | 04:55 |
| jenda | No seriously, where? | 04:55 |
| jenda | (what's in the topic?) | 04:55 |
| elkbuntu | freespire bullpoo | 04:56 |
| elkbuntu | Freespire's Google ads: "What is Ubuntu Missing?" | 04:57 |
| jenda | ok | 04:57 |
| jenda | social skills-- | 04:59 |
| elkbuntu | lol? | 05:00 |
| jenda | It takes a lot of experience to respond flames and flamebait the good way :) Feel free to give it a shot. I totally suck at it. | 05:00 |
| jenda | My last was 'thanks for your constructive criticism' :) | 05:00 |
| elkbuntu | lol saying that to a troll/flamer is like saying 'ouch, my bottom hurts' | 05:01 |
| jenda | Hehe. | 05:01 |
| yama | to which the flamer's response might be 'maybe you have worms?' | 05:14 |
| jenda | hehe | 05:15 |
| jenda | In this case, 'you are welcome' | 05:15 |
| elkbuntu | jenda, still around? | 05:32 |
| jenda | yeppers | 05:32 |
| jenda | for a bit more | 05:32 |
| elkbuntu | PM in a sec | 05:33 |
| jenda | k | 05:33 |
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| elkbuntu | jenda, i think freenode just grepped menza for you | 05:39 |
| MenZa | :o | 05:39 |
| elkbuntu | it just took a while ;) | 05:39 |
| MenZa | :D | 05:39 |
| elkbuntu | <jenda> sudo grep "MenZa" irc.freenode.net <-- about an hour ago | 05:40 |
| MenZa | lmfao | 05:40 |
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| MenZa | I needed a new mug anyway. | 05:40 |
| elkbuntu | rofl | 05:40 |
| MenZa | :D | 05:40 |
| MenZa | I just want a Flock mug now. | 05:40 |
| === MenZa must bug Will | ||
| jenda | :) | 05:41 |
| jenda | There's a guy selling Ubnutu mugs here, BTW :-D | 05:41 |
| jenda | MenZa: In the former satellite states of Soviet Russia, Jenda bug YOU!!... I need them stickies! :) | 05:42 |
| MenZa | jenda: yup, shall send them the moment I exchange these 200Kc for Danish Kroner | 05:43 |
| MenZa | Which might be tomorrow. | 05:43 |
| MenZa | (I'll do it as fast as I can) | 05:43 |
| MenZa | And that "Soviet Russia"-joke reminds me. | 05:43 |
| MenZa | I bought the furhat ;P | 05:43 |
| jenda | hehe :) | 05:44 |
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| jenda | Burgwork: hello | 06:53 |
| jenda | Would you happen to know who to contact to open a mailing list on lists.ubuntu.com? | 06:53 |
| MenZa | I'd ask Seveas, jenda | 06:54 |
| MenZa | He'll know ;p | 06:54 |
| jenda | I'm asking him too :) | 06:54 |
| Burgwork | hey jenda | 06:55 |
| Burgwork | jenda, what do you need a mailing list for? | 06:56 |
| jenda | I don't - Martin Bhm of the Czech Kubuntu team does, for this team: Kubuntu Testers: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-testers | 06:56 |
| jenda | The team has been approved by both Hobbsee and Ridell | 06:56 |
| Burgwork | cool | 06:57 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: Come to think of it, there are countries where such 'comparative' advertising is illegal (@previous topic) | 06:57 |
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| jenda | Burgwork: any ideas? | 07:09 |
| Burgwork | jenda, for the mailing list? | 07:10 |
| jenda | I recommended emailing Jono (martin refuses to use rt@canonical.com because they didn't respond to his kubuntu.cz request at all after about half a year) | 07:10 |
| jenda | Yes. | 07:10 |
| Burgwork | rt is the place | 07:12 |
| jenda | There's no way I can make him do that :) But I agree it's the first place to try. | 07:15 |
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| nixternal | jenda: rt has been restaffed and actually works pretty quick...it took me about 2 days to get both the mailing list and web site for ubuntu chicago | 07:25 |
| jenda | aha... really good news there, thx | 07:26 |
| jenda | nixternal: you've prolly got mail... | 07:26 |
| nixternal | truthfully, you would think the "kubuntu-users" would be testers ;) like there needs to be more teams and mailing lists | 07:27 |
| nixternal | i always have mail ;) | 07:27 |
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| jenda | that's what I thought, but since Hobbsee and Ridell approved, it's no longer any of my business :) | 07:27 |
| jenda | Hello Klaidas | 07:27 |
| Klaidas | hi jenda :) | 07:28 |
| nixternal | hehe jenda ;) | 07:33 |
| nixternal | does the list get a lot of spam? | 07:33 |
| nixternal | my list has been getting a lot lately, thank god for the filters | 07:34 |
| jenda | I have no clue - I believe it don't exist yet. | 07:35 |
| jenda | The team was founded yesterday | 07:35 |
| nixternal | no no, concerning the email i received ;) | 07:35 |
| nixternal | the marketing list | 07:35 |
| poningru | grr | 07:35 |
| poningru | we need to get the UWN out | 07:35 |
| poningru | its monday guys | 07:36 |
| nixternal | what? it didn't get released? | 07:36 |
| poningru | comeone now | 07:36 |
| poningru | no | 07:36 |
| nixternal | school has me tied down this week ;( | 07:36 |
| jenda | nixternal: aha, not too bad, but not too good either ;) | 07:36 |
| poningru | nixternal: I know me too | 07:36 |
| jenda | uh oh | 07:36 |
| nixternal | ahh...cool, i know how to prevent that jenda ;) | 07:36 |
| jenda | let's get to work then :) | 07:36 |
| jenda | nixternal: ya do? :) | 07:36 |
| poningru | I have nothing to put in the upcoming events | 07:36 |
| jenda | hmm | 07:37 |
| poningru | I am going delete feature of the week for this UWN | 07:37 |
| poningru | also we need to put something in lp news section | 07:37 |
| poningru | and sectionalize In the press | 07:37 |
| nixternal | ya, i have been working with the mailman people trying to learn the filtering regiment they use | 07:38 |
| jenda | that's neat | 07:38 |
| jenda | my PC is upgrading right now, so if I drop out, Edgy is at fault. | 07:38 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:38 |
| poningru | so: upcoming events | 07:38 |
| poningru | sectionalize In the press | 07:38 |
| poningru | and feature of the week | 07:38 |
| poningru | if no one has any suggestions for feature of the week | 07:39 |
| poningru | I am gonna delete it for this week | 07:39 |
| nixternal | hey, that feature of the week, does it have to be a "default" installed feature of the week? or can it be something you can apt-get from the universe repos? | 07:39 |
| Burgwork | nixternal, yes | 07:40 |
| nixternal | heh, i take that is yes to both...if so rockin' | 07:40 |
| Burgwork | yes | 07:40 |
| nixternal | bip or bitlbee would be cool to show off..bip is awesome! | 07:40 |
| Burgwork | please edit UWN | 07:40 |
| poningru | bitlbee? | 07:41 |
| Burgwork | and I am going to be working on it tonight, for release tonight | 07:41 |
| poningru | nixternal: wanna do that section? | 07:41 |
| nixternal | bitlbee allows you access to your IM accounts via IRC | 07:41 |
| nixternal | i can do it poningru | 07:41 |
| poningru | awesome | 07:41 |
| jenda | grr, I can't get gobby started. | 07:41 |
| poningru | hold on let me update the gobby page | 07:41 |
| poningru | k done | 07:42 |
| poningru | nixternal: updating on the wiki or gobby? | 07:42 |
| jenda | Gobby was the FoW once :) | 07:43 |
| poningru | we need more stuff for In the Press | 07:43 |
| poningru | hehe true | 07:43 |
| jenda | hmm... | 07:44 |
| jenda | how about we draft from #ubuntu-offtopic? | 07:44 |
| jenda | maybe not a good idea, maybe worth a try... | 07:44 |
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| jenda | grr, mbr messed up | 07:44 |
| === jenda cries | ||
| poningru | ouch | 07:45 |
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| poningru | err wait | 07:45 |
| poningru | wrong distro | 07:45 |
| jenda | I have plenty, but it even refuses to boot fro... aha! booted. | 07:45 |
| Klaidas | poningru, mandra^H^Hiva? | 07:46 |
| poningru | pssh | 07:46 |
| poningru | gentoo | 07:46 |
| nixternal | poningru: whatever is easiest | 07:48 |
| poningru | arr? | 07:48 |
| nixternal | updating location | 07:48 |
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| poningru | but that was announced today | 07:50 |
| poningru | so doesnt qualify | 07:50 |
| jenda | ompaul: a rushed UWN is being worked on... you can join in :) | 07:50 |
| nixternal | [12:42:58] <poningru> nixternal: updating on the wiki or gobby? | 07:51 |
| poningru | ah gotcha | 07:51 |
| poningru | nixternal: upto you | 07:51 |
| ompaul | that can't be right = | 07:51 |
| ompaul | either do gobby or go wiki | 07:51 |
| poningru | nixternal: though for the screencap you may wanna do wiki | 07:51 |
| ompaul | and wiki is not colob | 07:52 |
| nixternal | hehe, k..im gonna take a quick shower | 07:52 |
| ompaul | colaboration even | 07:52 |
| nixternal | bbiaf | 07:52 |
| poningru | ompaul: the prob is not everyone is familiar with gobby | 07:52 |
| ompaul | who is running gobby? | 07:52 |
| ompaul | poningru, multi player notepad? | 07:52 |
| ompaul | where is the session? | 07:53 |
| ompaul | i.e. who is running the server? | 07:53 |
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| poningru | hold on | 07:53 |
| ompaul | ip please | 07:53 |
| poningru | my ip | 07:53 |
| poningru | port | 07:53 |
| poningru | 6522 | 07:53 |
| poningru | password: ufl@ftw | 07:54 |
| poningru | 70.171.62.28 | 07:54 |
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| poningru | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies | 07:55 |
| poningru | that has better instructions | 07:55 |
| jenda_ | Will be up in a bit... | 07:56 |
| poningru | ompaul: also you need the edgy gobby | 07:56 |
| Burgwork | ompaul, busy today | 07:56 |
| ompaul | Burgwork, no worries | 07:56 |
| ompaul | poningru, you can not be serious | 07:56 |
| ompaul | gobby does not work across versions ... | 07:57 |
| poningru | ? | 07:57 |
| poningru | ompaul: unfortunately the .4 added a bunch of new stuff | 07:57 |
| ompaul | well I don't have a functional edgy box atm | 07:57 |
| poningru | frack | 07:57 |
| poningru | you can just download the edgy gobby | 07:57 |
| poningru | and install that | 07:57 |
| === ompaul has a thing called Death To Backports | ||
| poningru | hold on melissa put something up a while ago | 07:57 |
| ompaul | :) | 07:57 |
| ompaul | I'll see if I have anything to contrib - via the web page | 07:58 |
| poningru | sweet | 07:58 |
| jenda | pheck! Version mismatch on the liveCD :( | 07:59 |
| ompaul | question, is the feature tackled? | 08:00 |
| poningru | nixternal: went for a shower | 08:00 |
| poningru | so if you wanna take over I guess its ok | 08:01 |
| jenda | There was a suggestion, but if you have better :) | 08:01 |
| ompaul | what was the suggestion | 08:01 |
| poningru | bitlbee | 08:01 |
| jenda | <nixternal> bip or bitlbee would be cool to show off..bip is awesome! | 08:01 |
| ompaul | leave it with him | 08:01 |
| ompaul | okay I can add to the akademy and the GPLv3 keynote on the sunday by COR - I was there | 08:02 |
| jenda | quick hint please, how do I install the new version? (/me fergat) | 08:02 |
| poningru | w00t | 08:02 |
| ompaul | or | 08:02 |
| poningru | jenda: for the gobby? | 08:02 |
| jenda | very good, ompaul :) | 08:02 |
| poningru | in dapper? | 08:02 |
| jenda | poningru: yep | 08:02 |
| poningru | crap | 08:02 |
| poningru | elkbuntu: ping | 08:02 |
| poningru | she figured something out | 08:03 |
| ompaul | actually - that was the BOF session | 08:03 |
| ompaul | arrrrg | 08:03 |
| ompaul | he did patents in europe | 08:03 |
| ompaul | forget it | 08:03 |
| poningru | hold on let me track that down her thing | 08:03 |
| ompaul | you don't have room for the story so far | 08:03 |
| poningru | ompaul: sure we do | 08:03 |
| jenda | Hey, how about a Ubuntu Poster Design Competition Yields Results piece? | 08:04 |
| ompaul | poningru, you really don't :-) not if you want to go to press today | 08:04 |
| === ompaul thinks for a moment | ||
| poningru | jenda: yeah go for it | 08:04 |
| ompaul | brb | 08:04 |
| poningru | jenda: lets just do this over wiki for now | 08:04 |
| jenda | ok | 08:05 |
| poningru | looks like too many people are having trouble with gobby | 08:05 |
| poningru | I will put up the instructions on how to install gobby backporting stuff | 08:05 |
| ompaul | got to go | 08:05 |
| ompaul | back later | 08:05 |
| poningru | k | 08:05 |
| ompaul | hopefully it is okay | 08:05 |
| jenda | poningru, why use the edgy version? | 08:06 |
| === poningru shrugs | ||
| jenda | er, nevermind, I get it. | 08:06 |
| jenda | (it makes sense for dapperers to upgrade, but not for edgyers to dg) | 08:06 |
| poningru | it had a lot more features... and almost everyone at the time who was here was using edgy | 08:06 |
| poningru | yeah | 08:06 |
| nixternal | so are we doing gobby? | 08:11 |
| jenda | universe freeze - do you have that in there? | 08:12 |
| poningru | nixternal: cant too many people without it | 08:15 |
| poningru | just use the wiki | 08:15 |
| nixternal | glad you said that, almost connected ;) | 08:15 |
| nixternal | how hard is it to apt-get it ;) | 08:15 |
| poningru | nixternal: hehe the prob is dapper gobby will not talk to the edgy gobby :( | 08:15 |
| nixternal | well, people shouldn't be using dappah ;) | 08:16 |
| nixternal | and it seems as if gobby stunk it up on that..that should be a bug | 08:16 |
| nixternal | Gobby 0.4 is available in the repos for dapper | 08:17 |
| nixternal | not ubuntu repos, but you can grab it from the debian/dapper repos | 08:17 |
| poningru | hehe yeah | 08:18 |
| poningru | http://pkern.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby/gobby_0.4.1-1_i386.deb | 08:18 |
| nixternal | or there ;) | 08:18 |
| ompaul | do it | 08:19 |
| poningru | ok lets go with gobby now | 08:19 |
| nixternal | heh | 08:19 |
| nixternal | same ip and setup info you posted earlier? | 08:20 |
| ompaul | nixternal, people will use dapper for the next few years so other people better get used to it :) | 08:21 |
| === ompaul runs | ||
| poningru | nixternal: yep | 08:21 |
| poningru | hehe | 08:21 |
| ompaul | okay I will try and dist upgrade the box that edgy would not install on | 08:21 |
| poningru | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies | 08:21 |
| ompaul | this is going to be fun | 08:21 |
| ompaul | I will not make the editing session methinks | 08:22 |
| ompaul | I don't have a fast box or a huge pipe | 08:22 |
| poningru | ompaul: arr? | 08:22 |
| poningru | http://pkern.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby/gobby_0.4.1-1_i386.deb | 08:22 |
| poningru | pretty small | 08:22 |
| ompaul | poningru, and dist-upgrade ? | 08:23 |
| ompaul | poningru, the only way I _may_ be able to make this other machine run edgy is if edgy installs on it | 08:24 |
| ompaul | but it is slow | 08:24 |
| poningru | ompaul: dude you can just use that deb | 08:24 |
| ompaul | the dvd failed | 08:24 |
| poningru | no need to distupgrade | 08:24 |
| ompaul | dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 08:24 |
| poningru | oh | 08:24 |
| poningru | ouch | 08:24 |
| ompaul | it won't install on my box | 08:24 |
| poningru | crap | 08:24 |
| ompaul | whereas gobby did | 08:24 |
| ompaul | yeap pretty much | 08:25 |
| ompaul | maybe that gobby will work on it | 08:25 |
| ompaul | I'll join you here from there with an alt nick | 08:26 |
| jenda | hey, I added my part to the wiki, but it put the image directly in there. | 08:26 |
| ompaul | then I will say the gobby url | 08:26 |
| jenda | I'm not sure if that's exactly what we want. | 08:26 |
| jenda | wait... | 08:27 |
| ompaul | don't please don't try to do gobby and wiki without someone declaring themselves king of the project - and granting tickets to work in wiki space | 08:27 |
| jenda | which issue are we editing? | 08:27 |
| jenda | I declare poningru king, if he agrees :) | 08:27 |
| === jenda was just obeying orders, btw ;) | ||
| Burgwork | ompaul, you need obby and net6 as well | 08:28 |
| ompaul | ipv6 | 08:28 |
| ompaul | hmm | 08:28 |
| jenda | Which issue are we editing, 16 or 17? | 08:29 |
| poningru | 16 | 08:29 |
| jenda | ok | 08:29 |
| ompaul | Burgwork, lets see jhow we go | 08:30 |
| poningru | ompaul: http://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/Download | 08:30 |
| poningru | under the .4 section | 08:30 |
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| ompaul_ | bah humbug :) | 08:31 |
| nixternal | yes, use the deb debian info for dapper ;) | 08:31 |
| ompaul | http://pkern.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby/gobby_0.4.1-1_i386.deb | 08:31 |
| ompaul | http://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/Download | 08:31 |
| ompaul_ | this box issssss sssssoooo slow | 08:32 |
| nixternal | which UWN are we using on Gobby? | 08:32 |
| nixternal | i edited (2) | 08:32 |
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| ompaul_ | nixternal, save and move on | 08:33 |
| poningru | obtw | 08:33 |
| poningru | Burgwork: is the king | 08:33 |
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| === poningru is simply a minister ;) | ||
| Burgwork | poningru, Burgwork is also currently insanely busy | 08:33 |
| poningru | hence the minister doing the work ;) | 08:33 |
| jenda | Could someone add a bit about the universe freeze? I honestly have a bit of technical trouble here. | 08:34 |
| ompaul_ | stop using windows then :P | 08:35 |
| jenda | I'm not!!! | 08:37 |
| poningru | hehe | 08:37 |
| jenda | I find that as a serious personal offense, ompaul ;) | 08:37 |
| ompaul | well it is nearly as bad as people expecting me to have a running edgy system | 08:39 |
| ompaul | sorry folks but I can't particpate | 08:39 |
| poningru | ompaul: sure you can | 08:39 |
| ompaul | my play with fire box has burnt itself | 08:39 |
| poningru | we can coordinate between wiki and gobby | 08:39 |
| ompaul | I need to fix it | 08:39 |
| poningru | we arent really using gobby atm | 08:40 |
| poningru | wiki all the way | 08:40 |
| jenda | I'm on the wiki :) | 08:40 |
| jenda | Is there a resource for writing about the universe freeze? (before my PC reboots into nothingness) | 08:41 |
| poningru | ok writing the universe freeze | 08:41 |
| jenda | (or edgyness) | 08:41 |
| jenda | aha | 08:41 |
| jenda | great. | 08:41 |
| === jenda dies happy. | ||
| MenZa | lol | 08:45 |
| jenda | don't laugh at the dead man | 08:47 |
| Burgwork | jenda, mentoin that it is frozen and point to the release schedule | 08:47 |
| jenda | poningru^ | 08:48 |
| === jenda is going to reboot... err... be rebooted in a sec. | ||
| === jenda screeeaams | ||
| poningru | Burgwork: arr? | 08:50 |
| poningru | release schedule? | 08:50 |
| poningru | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule | 08:52 |
| poningru | will that do? | 08:52 |
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| ompaul | poningru, that is the one | 08:53 |
| jenda | whoo | 08:54 |
| jenda | back to work then, sorry :) | 08:54 |
| ompaul | poningru, the text here could be a preamble to the other url https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFreeze | 08:54 |
| jenda | poningru: what's the gobby password? | 08:55 |
| jenda | nvm, got firefox started ok. | 08:56 |
| ompaul | <poningru> password: ufl@ftw | 08:56 |
| ompaul | <poningru> 70.171.62.28 | 08:56 |
| poningru | using wiki right now | 08:56 |
| poningru | so all we need now is New app in edgy | 08:57 |
| poningru | cleanup In the news | 08:58 |
| ompaul | late breaking news or something http://www.electricnews.net/news.html?code=9824239 | 08:58 |
| poningru | and finish upcoming events | 08:58 |
| ompaul | don't bother it is about firefox exploits from last saturday | 08:58 |
| poningru | yeah teh lame | 08:59 |
| poningru | I have no idea what to do with the In the Press segment | 08:59 |
| poningru | but working on it now | 08:59 |
| jenda | the formatting, you mean? | 08:59 |
| jenda | I think an indent to the quotes would help a lot | 08:59 |
| poningru | yeah | 08:59 |
| poningru | hmm | 09:01 |
| poningru | done | 09:02 |
| jenda | May I? | 09:02 |
| poningru | please | 09:02 |
| poningru | ompaul, nixternal please add yourselves to the credits if you arent there already | 09:02 |
| ompaul | I did nothing other than groan :) | 09:03 |
| ompaul | or was that moan | 09:03 |
| poningru | ok not sure thats appropriate for a family friendly channel ;) | 09:03 |
| ompaul | To make a low prolonged sound of grief or pain | 09:04 |
| ompaul | pain at testing the inclusiveness of your gobbyness :) | 09:04 |
| ompaul | credit me with failing to you join as software issues arrose and need to be reviewed | 09:04 |
| jenda | I tried out a bit of bolding to see how it looked... | 09:05 |
| ompaul | bold on a web page is not nice | 09:05 |
| nixternal | if someone can add me that would rock..i have to run and fix mum's puter...bbiab | 09:05 |
| ompaul | nixternal, which name | 09:05 |
| nixternal | Richard Johnson | 09:05 |
| poningru | nice | 09:06 |
| nixternal | yes i know the nicknames already ;) | 09:06 |
| nixternal | bbiab | 09:06 |
| poningru | jenda: unfortunately since we send it out as text... we cant exactly do the bold stuff | 09:06 |
| ompaul | done | 09:06 |
| jenda | It doesn't look good, I'll remove it. | 09:07 |
| poningru | but it looks good on the wiki | 09:07 |
| jenda | Hehe, it does? :) | 09:07 |
| ompaul | let me read it with the editor openj | 09:07 |
| jenda | Lemme look again. | 09:07 |
| poningru | no it draws attention to the subjects | 09:07 |
| poningru | so it does look good | 09:07 |
| poningru | just... | 09:07 |
| jenda | poningru: If you want, I can do the grunt work in the end (spelling proofread and wiki formatting removal for text version). | 09:08 |
| poningru | awesome thanks man | 09:08 |
| === jenda feels guilty for not being available enough when it was important :) | ||
| poningru | we still need upcoming events though | 09:08 |
| ompaul | I ripped out === in tthis issue === | 09:08 |
| ompaul | you already have an index so it kind of has no place there anymore | 09:09 |
| poningru | and New apps in edgy | 09:09 |
| poningru | ompaul: naah we have to use that for when we send it out as text | 09:09 |
| ompaul | include the index | 09:09 |
| poningru | the index only looks good on the wiki | 09:09 |
| poningru | yeah we just copy it over | 09:10 |
| poningru | and put it under the In this issue | 09:10 |
| jenda | yep, agreed. | 09:10 |
| === poningru thinks about writing a php app to convert the moinmoin stuff to plaintext | ||
| ompaul | after this there should be no new apps cos the universe is frozen | 09:11 |
| poningru | yeah but wondering what new stuff came up | 09:11 |
| poningru | also what can we include for upcoming events? | 09:11 |
| poningru | we can include the mountain view stuff | 09:12 |
| ompaul | search conferences | 09:12 |
| ompaul | and october 2006 | 09:12 |
| === poningru searches | ||
| ompaul | I am adding the stuff for the === in this issue | 09:13 |
| jenda | poningru: that would be great. Shouldn't be too difficult, either. | 09:13 |
| poningru | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Conferences | 09:14 |
| poningru | hmm what do you guys think? where should all the conferences stuff go? under meetings? or upcoming events? | 09:16 |
| poningru | I say upcoming events | 09:16 |
| jenda | +1 | 09:16 |
| poningru | anything periodical should go under meetings and other similar events | 09:16 |
| ompaul | upcoming | 09:19 |
| ompaul | you are free to add it | 09:20 |
| ompaul | are their any linux confs on anywhere? | 09:20 |
| jenda | I might be doing one at home... two people present... | 09:21 |
| jenda | :) | 09:21 |
| poningru | ompaul: there is one in dresden on the 8th | 09:21 |
| poningru | added that | 09:21 |
| ompaul | so anything else? | 09:21 |
| jenda | Dresden? Sheesh, that's about the nearest real city around | 09:23 |
| ompaul | clear? | 09:23 |
| jenda | clear | 09:24 |
| ompaul | okay read it for errors | 09:24 |
| ompaul | put the errors here and only them] | 09:24 |
| ompaul | then poningru can attack the errors :) | 09:24 |
| ompaul | then we say signed sealed and delivered | 09:24 |
| ompaul | should we make it, one item or commas between in this issue? | 09:25 |
| poningru | ompaul: fixed | 09:26 |
| poningru | bulleted | 09:26 |
| ompaul | no new apps | 09:26 |
| poningru | ah removing then | 09:27 |
| poningru | need spell checking | 09:27 |
| ompaul | no | 09:28 |
| poningru | arr? | 09:28 |
| ompaul | I mean there are no new apps entered in the page | 09:28 |
| poningru | oh... | 09:29 |
| ompaul | Accepted: | 09:29 |
| ompaul | OK: xen-3.0_3.0.3~rc1.dsc | 09:29 |
| ompaul | -> Component: universe Section: misc | 09:29 |
| ompaul | OK: xen-3.0_3.0.3~rc1.tar.gz | 09:29 |
| ompaul | thats one there are many | 09:29 |
| poningru | ompaul: where are you getting this from? | 09:30 |
| poningru | sorry kinda ignorant about lp | 09:30 |
| ompaul | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edgy-changes | 09:30 |
| ompaul | right I have to handle something here | 09:30 |
| ompaul | in rl terms | 09:30 |
| ompaul | so later | 09:30 |
| ompaul | dig around that - ask seveas if he saw any good ones | 09:31 |
| poningru | hmm we have to get the meat from that | 09:31 |
| ompaul | stick your head into -devel and say you want a hand if someone has 15 mins | 09:31 |
| ompaul | tell them you want to ide a few packages - check out last weeks and explain what you need done | 09:32 |
| ompaul | or grab hobbsee if she is about (I doubt it) | 09:32 |
| ompaul | now I really must dash | 09:32 |
| poningru | k | 09:33 |
| poningru | thanks man | 09:33 |
| === poningru is not sure what to do about the new app | ||
| poningru | any ideas? | 09:35 |
| poningru | there are just too many to list | 09:35 |
| jenda | No ID here, sorry. | 09:36 |
| jenda | I'll bbiab | 09:36 |
| === poningru is looking through what used to be done | ||
| poningru | ompaul, nixternal and jenda thanks for stepping up to the plate there | 09:47 |
| ompaul | poningru, just a min | 09:47 |
| ompaul | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue15 | 09:47 |
| ompaul | see how it was done there | 09:47 |
| ompaul | sorry still dealing with stuff | 09:48 |
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| poningru | yeah I think its more summarized... | 09:49 |
| ompaul | if you want something mad to write about - consider firefox and the trademarking | 09:51 |
| poningru | hehe I am not touching that with a ten foot pole | 09:52 |
| ompaul | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622;msg=59 | 09:52 |
| ompaul | the words mozilla and free software are diverging | 09:52 |
| === poningru avoids another argument here | ||
| ompaul | the browser-formally-known-as-firefox | 09:53 |
| poningru | ompaul: unfortunately I take the mofo side in this argument... hence me not touching that subject | 09:55 |
| ompaul | I don't think they are right ergo I suggested that | 09:56 |
| ompaul | however, they are within their rights | 09:57 |
| Burgwork | within their rights != doing the right thing | 10:00 |
| Burgwork | both sides came in with a very combatitive attitude | 10:01 |
| Burgwork | which led to conflict | 10:01 |
| poningru | mconnor didnt like what was going on because they ignored him for the first couple of times | 10:02 |
| poningru | he got the feeling that they were just ignoring him around january thats why he had to make that bug | 10:02 |
| poningru | whatever not arguing about that around debian/ubuntu etc. | 10:03 |
| Burgwork | regardless, this is not the appropriate venue to talk about it | 10:03 |
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| poningru | yeah | 10:06 |
| Burgwork | woot! | 10:15 |
| Burgwork | work just gave me a gold business visa | 10:16 |
| ompaul | Burgwork, concur but I think that poningru needed a diversion ;-) | 10:18 |
| poningru | woah | 10:20 |
| === Burgwork wonders how far he can go on the 30k credit limit | ||
| poningru | 0_0 | 10:20 |
| tonyyarusso | Yikes | 10:26 |
| === poningru is still staring at that number | ||
| === poningru imagines Burgwork ordering couple of T1s | ||
| jenda | I'm back. | 10:40 |
| jenda | poningru: is there still any work to do? | 10:40 |
| poningru | just the new app to edgy thing | 10:40 |
| poningru | not sure what to put on there | 10:40 |
| poningru | and doing HW right now so kinda ignoring uwn for now | 10:41 |
| jenda | ok | 10:42 |
| jenda | I'll ask around for suggestions. | 10:42 |
| === BHSPitLappy hums | ||
| jenda | nothing found | 11:10 |
| jenda | :( | 11:10 |
| === jenda is going over the spelling and grammar etc. (fixed wrong ToC) | ||
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| jenda | Bulleted the in the press section. | 12:03 |
| jenda | Done | 12:03 |
| jenda | poningru, wiki page checked, proofread - now unwikifying - will come to you by email. | 12:03 |
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