=== theCore [n=alex@modemcable106.200-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-244-56.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === klepas [n=klepas@203.97.41.246] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:40] http://mag.mypclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13 === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-244-56.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-244-56.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-244-56.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dsulliva@65.94.193.93] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:45] Burgundavia: the book you guys wrote was cc? [04:46] poningru: yes [04:51] grr [04:51] I asked the publisher and they said it was copyrighted all rights [04:53] It says Copyright 2007 Canonical, Ltd. ; This book is published under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 open publication license. [04:53] (How can it be copyrighted a year that hasn't happened yet?) [04:56] hmm, interesting [04:56] Does say "All rights reserved" right after that too. [04:58] Then the standard "This publication is protected by copyright, and permission must be optained from the publisher prior to any prohibited reproduction, storage in a retrieval system, or transmission in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or likewise unless permitted under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license 2.0. For information regarding permissions, write to:

[04:58] Burgundavia: That all seems somewhat self-contradictory to me. [04:58] (Although I'm not familiar with the text of that license.) [04:59] hmm weird [04:59] I asked the Florida rep for the publisher [04:59] and she was like yeah all our books are fully copyrighted [04:59] I never got a chance to take a look at a physical copy [05:03] Well I'd assume it's copyrighted for real, but I don't think it's "All rights reserved". [05:15] conspiracy! [05:16] stuff can be both copyrighted & CC-licenced [05:17] Madpilot, read what tonyyarusso said.. it sorta seems to contradict [05:18] not really - the "...unless permitted under..." is the key here [05:19] hmm.. suppose [05:19] I did a seminar thru my union on reading legal docs; it's proven to be the best thing the union ever did for me :) [05:20] heh [05:22] oh how i love how angus&robertson put stuff into their db.. like keep a single format for the whole of a field, dont be stupid "Author: Benjamin; Bacon, Jono; Burger, Corey & others Hill" [05:22] hah! === elkbuntu wonders if the pokey little store here has the book [05:22] http://www.angusrobertson.com.au/search/results.asp?searchbycriteria=ubuntu&searchby=title&submit_search.x=0&submit_search.y=0&submit_search=search [05:23] "& others Hill" is the best bit [05:24] cool they list it as a best seller [05:27] oh ffs.. it's like it all over the place [05:31] heh, another bookshop lists the author as just "Mako" [05:32] I got it at Barnes & Noble, but I had to order; there weren't any in stock. They told me they had hardcover, which turned out not to be true. [05:33] heh [05:45] g'evening all === klepas [n=klepas@202.124.98.26] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:33] bwahaha. book on order :) === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Fujitsu_ [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === BHSPitLappy yawns === poningru too [08:17] do my calculus homework [08:17] hehe [08:18] crap the UWN [08:18] uwn? [08:34] UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter [08:52] oh [08:52] yeah, I'm not much for newsletters [08:59] yes, I have been ignoring it as well, been working on my book [09:00] 0_o [09:00] what are you writing? [09:02] erratta for the official book [09:04] ah [09:11] gah.. what's the url to the schedule/timeline for edgy release? [09:11] I think wiki page EdgyRelease [09:11] /EdgyEft/ReleaseSchedule [09:11] whatever [09:11] something like that [09:12] can someone tell me why RB is so crap? [09:13] RB? [09:13] Relative Barometrics [09:17] RythymBox? [09:17] RhythymBox, even [09:18] rhythmbox [09:18] whiprush: I am making you happy by installing banhsee right now [09:18] it's still crap even in Edgy, hmm? [09:18] it just won't play a .pls [09:19] what the heck is a .pls? [09:19] online radio station playlist [09:19] Burgundavia, are you takling about how it stops at track changes? [09:20] no, it simply won't load them [09:20] heh, rude [09:21] totem appears to work [09:22] why is nautlius using 76% of my cpu with nothing happening? [09:25] hmm..how can i answer that and still stay in compliance with the CoC? [09:27] you can disparage programs [09:27] yes, nautilus is crap [09:27] my feelings for it would incite the use of really bad language [09:28] what??? [09:28] it also lacks a maintainer === poningru <3s Rhythmbox [09:28] after some hacking ofcourse [09:28] but still [09:28] teh awesome [09:28] rh yanked a bunch of their desktop people for mugshot [09:28] poningru, i prefer xmms personally [09:29] bah. Muine for albums, Totem for everything else here. [09:29] RB for my roomates large music collection [09:30] rb is the only one that seems to handle the nfs over wireless crappiness well [09:30] cool, I managed to create a 2.5Mb SVG... neat trick ;) [09:30] heh === poningru imagines an essay in the id3 [09:32] actually, 6.3Mb is my largest SVG - it's a big photo converted to SVG [09:32] ouch [09:33] the XFC file it came from was 8.5Mb; the PNG that Inkscape actually used was "only" 5Mb [09:38] jeez [09:38] how big... [09:38] ? [10:21] hehe, matthew revell has just posted to the ML an email, and the spamfilter caught it (Subject: Tesco supermarket software) [10:24] hmm, odd [10:24] but I saw that [10:25] It either came through because he already has that email addy as a go-through in there... [10:25] ...or someone got to it before I did (it was already through when I was about to let it) [10:27] grr [10:27] figuring out bzr is the hardest thing in the world [10:29] yep :) [10:29] What's the matter? [10:29] (I only use the three pushing commands, but I recently had an error there...) [10:30] poningru, i played the n00b card and got one of the resident -au devs to do it for me : [10:31] hehe [10:31] jenda: I still dont think I have any rights to upload [10:31] I have given up on it now I think [10:31] grr [10:32] I think I am just gonna host my college stuff on my home server [10:32] poningru: what's the error? [10:32] I can UL it for you, if I get it to work :-D [10:34] dude point me to some docs [10:35] if there are any [10:35] cause google cant find any [10:35] heh... I don't know any :-D [10:35] but there's #bzr [10:35] and #launchpad [10:35] the guys there have always helped me :) [10:35] But what's the matter, poningru? [10:36] I dont think I can get my gpg to go into launchpad [10:36] aha [10:36] bzr uses ssh, though [10:36] ... [10:36] so my rsa? [10:37] well you definitely need to have a ssh key in LP: https://launchpad.net/people/poningru/+editsshkeys [10:38] Not allowed here [10:38] Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. [10:38] You are logged in as Poningru. [10:38] wtf [10:39] gah [10:39] that is weird [10:39] zomg I think I know what the prob is [10:40] ya do [10:40] duplicate accounts [10:41] aha :) [10:45] Ah, I found my problem too. [10:45] I was pushing to an old branch (one under my name, not the team's) [10:46] pushed :) [10:46] poningru: now I can help out, if it doesn't work in the end. [10:47] naah I am sure I can figure it out after the merge [10:47] ok, cool [10:48] I have an extremely weird sleep cycle this weekend... went to bed at 5 AM, got up at 10 AM, went to bed at 4 PM, got up at 10 PM, went to bed at 6 AM, got up at 10 AM :) [10:48] thanks though [10:50] hehe its 5 here [10:50] btw jenda where are you? [10:50] I kinda realized this weekend I have no clue where you are [10:50] Czech Republic [10:50] [10:50] and you? [10:51] florida us [10:51] ok. [10:51] and where is menza? [10:54] Denmark [10:59] ah === MenZa [n=menza@0x50a1607b.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dsulliva@Toronto-HSE-ppp3879871.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dsulliva@Toronto-HSE-ppp3879871.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:33] sudo grep "MenZa" irc.freenode.net [04:48] o.O [04:50] Right, I didn't need the sudo, probably. [04:50] It felt more powerful that way, though. [04:50] Still no luck :) [04:50] He forgot the stickers in Denmark, so will have to snailmail them. I wanted to prod him :) [04:50] hehe [04:51] ...because I'm being prodded meself. [04:53] im trying to decide whether to respond to the flame i got on sounder [04:55] This one: "Small typo, the address is http://surveys.geekosophical.net/ "? [04:55] :) [04:55] No seriously, where? [04:55] (what's in the topic?) [04:56] freespire bullpoo [04:57] Freespire's Google ads: "What is Ubuntu Missing?" [04:57] ok [04:59] social skills-- [05:00] lol? [05:00] It takes a lot of experience to respond flames and flamebait the good way :) Feel free to give it a shot. I totally suck at it. [05:00] My last was 'thanks for your constructive criticism' :) [05:01] lol saying that to a troll/flamer is like saying 'ouch, my bottom hurts' [05:01] Hehe. [05:14] to which the flamer's response might be 'maybe you have worms?' [05:15] hehe [05:15] In this case, 'you are welcome' [05:32] jenda, still around? [05:32] yeppers [05:32] for a bit more [05:33] PM in a sec [05:33] k === MenZa [n=menza@0x50a1602b.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.7] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:39] jenda, i think freenode just grepped menza for you [05:39] :o [05:39] it just took a while ;) [05:39] :D [05:40] sudo grep "MenZa" irc.freenode.net <-- about an hour ago [05:40] lmfao === MenZa points to his new mug: "Prague--Czech me out!" [05:40] I needed a new mug anyway. [05:40] rofl [05:40] :D [05:40] I just want a Flock mug now. === MenZa must bug Will [05:41] :) [05:41] There's a guy selling Ubnutu mugs here, BTW :-D [05:42] MenZa: In the former satellite states of Soviet Russia, Jenda bug YOU!!... I need them stickies! :) [05:43] jenda: yup, shall send them the moment I exchange these 200Kc for Danish Kroner [05:43] Which might be tomorrow. [05:43] (I'll do it as fast as I can) [05:43] And that "Soviet Russia"-joke reminds me. [05:43] I bought the furhat ;P [05:44] hehe :) === MenZa should take a piccie === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FFF90.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MagicFab [n=magicfab@70.55.55.170] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MagicFab_ [n=magicfab@70.55.55.170] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MagicFab [n=magicfab@70.55.55.170] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgwork [n=corey@d64-180-214-139.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:53] Burgwork: hello [06:53] Would you happen to know who to contact to open a mailing list on lists.ubuntu.com? [06:54] I'd ask Seveas, jenda [06:54] He'll know ;p [06:54] I'm asking him too :) [06:55] hey jenda [06:56] jenda, what do you need a mailing list for? [06:56] I don't - Martin Bhm of the Czech Kubuntu team does, for this team: Kubuntu Testers: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-testers [06:56] The team has been approved by both Hobbsee and Ridell [06:57] cool [06:57] elkbuntu: Come to think of it, there are countries where such 'comparative' advertising is illegal (@previous topic) === MagicFab [n=magicfab@70.55.55.170] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:09] Burgwork: any ideas? [07:10] jenda, for the mailing list? [07:10] I recommended emailing Jono (martin refuses to use rt@canonical.com because they didn't respond to his kubuntu.cz request at all after about half a year) [07:10] Yes. [07:12] rt is the place [07:15] There's no way I can make him do that :) But I agree it's the first place to try. === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-244-56.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:25] jenda: rt has been restaffed and actually works pretty quick...it took me about 2 days to get both the mailing list and web site for ubuntu chicago [07:26] aha... really good news there, thx [07:26] nixternal: you've prolly got mail... [07:27] truthfully, you would think the "kubuntu-users" would be testers ;) like there needs to be more teams and mailing lists [07:27] i always have mail ;) === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #Ubuntu-marketing [07:27] that's what I thought, but since Hobbsee and Ridell approved, it's no longer any of my business :) [07:27] Hello Klaidas [07:28] hi jenda :) [07:33] hehe jenda ;) [07:33] does the list get a lot of spam? [07:34] my list has been getting a lot lately, thank god for the filters [07:35] I have no clue - I believe it don't exist yet. [07:35] The team was founded yesterday [07:35] no no, concerning the email i received ;) [07:35] the marketing list [07:35] grr [07:35] we need to get the UWN out [07:36] its monday guys [07:36] what? it didn't get released? [07:36] comeone now [07:36] no [07:36] school has me tied down this week ;( [07:36] nixternal: aha, not too bad, but not too good either ;) [07:36] nixternal: I know me too [07:36] uh oh [07:36] ahh...cool, i know how to prevent that jenda ;) [07:36] let's get to work then :) [07:36] nixternal: ya do? :) [07:36] I have nothing to put in the upcoming events [07:37] hmm [07:37] I am going delete feature of the week for this UWN [07:37] also we need to put something in lp news section [07:37] and sectionalize In the press [07:38] ya, i have been working with the mailman people trying to learn the filtering regiment they use [07:38] that's neat [07:38] my PC is upgrading right now, so if I drop out, Edgy is at fault. [07:38] hehe [07:38] so: upcoming events [07:38] sectionalize In the press [07:38] and feature of the week [07:39] if no one has any suggestions for feature of the week [07:39] I am gonna delete it for this week [07:39] hey, that feature of the week, does it have to be a "default" installed feature of the week? or can it be something you can apt-get from the universe repos? [07:40] nixternal, yes [07:40] heh, i take that is yes to both...if so rockin' [07:40] yes [07:40] bip or bitlbee would be cool to show off..bip is awesome! [07:40] please edit UWN [07:41] bitlbee? [07:41] and I am going to be working on it tonight, for release tonight [07:41] nixternal: wanna do that section? [07:41] bitlbee allows you access to your IM accounts via IRC [07:41] i can do it poningru [07:41] awesome [07:41] grr, I can't get gobby started. [07:41] hold on let me update the gobby page [07:42] k done [07:42] nixternal: updating on the wiki or gobby? [07:43] Gobby was the FoW once :) [07:43] we need more stuff for In the Press [07:43] hehe true [07:44] hmm... [07:44] how about we draft from #ubuntu-offtopic? [07:44] maybe not a good idea, maybe worth a try... === jenda waits for other machine to boot up [07:44] grr, mbr messed up === jenda cries [07:45] ouch === poningru hands jenda his 2006.1 rescue cd [07:45] err wait [07:45] wrong distro [07:45] I have plenty, but it even refuses to boot fro... aha! booted. [07:46] poningru, mandra^H^Hiva? [07:46] pssh [07:46] gentoo [07:48] poningru: whatever is easiest [07:48] arr? [07:48] updating location === poningru is still confoozled === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru would do the news article regarding suns open sparc thing... [07:50] but that was announced today [07:50] so doesnt qualify [07:50] ompaul: a rushed UWN is being worked on... you can join in :) [07:51] [12:42:58] nixternal: updating on the wiki or gobby? [07:51] ah gotcha [07:51] nixternal: upto you [07:51] that can't be right = [07:51] either do gobby or go wiki [07:51] nixternal: though for the screencap you may wanna do wiki [07:52] and wiki is not colob [07:52] hehe, k..im gonna take a quick shower [07:52] colaboration even [07:52] bbiaf [07:52] ompaul: the prob is not everyone is familiar with gobby [07:52] who is running gobby? [07:52] poningru, multi player notepad? [07:53] where is the session? [07:53] i.e. who is running the server? === ompaul pokes Burgwork === poningru is [07:53] hold on [07:53] ip please [07:53] my ip [07:53] port [07:53] 6522 [07:54] password: ufl@ftw [07:54] 70.171.62.28 === jenda_ [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:55] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies [07:55] that has better instructions [07:56] Will be up in a bit... [07:56] ompaul: also you need the edgy gobby [07:56] ompaul, busy today [07:56] Burgwork, no worries [07:56] poningru, you can not be serious [07:57] gobby does not work across versions ... [07:57] ? [07:57] ompaul: unfortunately the .4 added a bunch of new stuff [07:57] well I don't have a functional edgy box atm [07:57] frack [07:57] you can just download the edgy gobby [07:57] and install that === ompaul has a thing called Death To Backports [07:57] hold on melissa put something up a while ago [07:57] :) [07:58] I'll see if I have anything to contrib - via the web page [07:58] sweet [07:59] pheck! Version mismatch on the liveCD :( [08:00] question, is the feature tackled? [08:00] nixternal: went for a shower [08:01] so if you wanna take over I guess its ok [08:01] There was a suggestion, but if you have better :) [08:01] what was the suggestion [08:01] bitlbee [08:01] bip or bitlbee would be cool to show off..bip is awesome! [08:01] leave it with him [08:02] okay I can add to the akademy and the GPLv3 keynote on the sunday by COR - I was there [08:02] quick hint please, how do I install the new version? (/me fergat) [08:02] w00t [08:02] or [08:02] jenda: for the gobby? [08:02] very good, ompaul :) [08:02] in dapper? [08:02] poningru: yep [08:02] crap [08:02] elkbuntu: ping [08:03] she figured something out [08:03] actually - that was the BOF session [08:03] arrrrg [08:03] he did patents in europe [08:03] forget it [08:03] hold on let me track that down her thing [08:03] you don't have room for the story so far [08:03] ompaul: sure we do [08:04] Hey, how about a Ubuntu Poster Design Competition Yields Results piece? [08:04] poningru, you really don't :-) not if you want to go to press today === ompaul thinks for a moment [08:04] jenda: yeah go for it [08:04] brb [08:04] jenda: lets just do this over wiki for now [08:05] ok [08:05] looks like too many people are having trouble with gobby [08:05] I will put up the instructions on how to install gobby backporting stuff [08:05] got to go [08:05] back later [08:05] k [08:05] hopefully it is okay [08:06] poningru, why use the edgy version? === poningru shrugs [08:06] er, nevermind, I get it. [08:06] (it makes sense for dapperers to upgrade, but not for edgyers to dg) [08:06] it had a lot more features... and almost everyone at the time who was here was using edgy [08:06] yeah [08:11] so are we doing gobby? [08:12] universe freeze - do you have that in there? [08:15] nixternal: cant too many people without it [08:15] just use the wiki [08:15] glad you said that, almost connected ;) [08:15] how hard is it to apt-get it ;) [08:15] nixternal: hehe the prob is dapper gobby will not talk to the edgy gobby :( [08:16] well, people shouldn't be using dappah ;) [08:16] and it seems as if gobby stunk it up on that..that should be a bug [08:17] Gobby 0.4 is available in the repos for dapper [08:17] not ubuntu repos, but you can grab it from the debian/dapper repos [08:18] hehe yeah [08:18] http://pkern.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby/gobby_0.4.1-1_i386.deb [08:18] or there ;) [08:19] do it [08:19] ok lets go with gobby now [08:19]