[05:38] <sanmarcos> why does dpkg-reconfigure generate an expired certificate for dovecot?
[05:42] <Ries> sanmarcos: Maybe you have the 'back to the feature' edition of ubuntu?
[05:42] <sanmarcos> indeed
[05:42] <sanmarcos> ill just genereate one of my own, anyhow I dont understand why it starts from 2005
[05:42] <sanmarcos> /var/lib/dpkg/info/dovecot-common.postinst
[05:43] <sanmarcos> I wont bother reporting a bug report..
[05:46] <Ries> sorry, I dom't know..... it sounds like a setting, but then again I am nnot much of a ubunto guru
[05:46] <sanmarcos> that is the problem and yet again the most promiment feature with ubuntu
[05:46] <sanmarcos> not enough people with years of experience
[05:46] <sanmarcos> besides the core devs
[05:47] <fabbione> sanmarcos: is that on dapper?
[05:47] <sanmarcos> yeah
[05:47] <fabbione> dovecot shouldn't be even generating a certificate and use the one from ssl-cert
[05:48] <fabbione> that's a common snake-oil cert in /etc/ssl/...
[05:48] <sanmarcos> dovecot-common does
[05:48] <sanmarcos> snake-oil I suppose is your all purpose ssl cert for the machine?
[05:48] <fabbione> yeah the "fake" certificates autogenerated just to make the services happy to start for the user
[05:50] <fabbione> dovecot (1.0.alpha5-1ubuntu2) dapper; urgency=low
[05:50] <fabbione>   * Switch default config to use ssl-cert-snakeoil certificates.
[05:50] <fabbione>   * Add Depends on ssl-cert.
[05:50] <fabbione>   * Make postinst use a more generic grep for SSL_* otherwise it just doesn't
[05:50] <fabbione>     work.
[05:50] <fabbione> the certificate is generated only if it can't find the pre-generated ones
[05:51] <fabbione> and the path to the certificates is embedded in the config
[05:51] <fabbione> if you did customize your config, then it might generate the snake-oil certificates for you
[05:51] <fabbione> it's not really a bug.. it's wanted behavious
[05:51] <fabbione> behaviour
[05:52] <sanmarcos> anyhow, I like to put some of my info in the cert
[05:52] <sanmarcos> it works, so whatever
[05:52] <sanmarcos> latest on dapper does not check for snake oil
[05:53] <fabbione> i just checked the source in dapper.. it does
[05:53] <sanmarcos> *** 1.0.beta3-3ubuntu5.3 0
[05:53] <sanmarcos> postinst for dovecot-common, does not
[05:53] <sanmarcos> dapper updates this is
[05:53] <fabbione>   ## SSL Certs
[05:53] <fabbione>   # Certs and key file
[05:53] <fabbione>   SSL_CERT=$( (grep "ssl_cert_file" /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf  || echo '/etc/ssl
[05:53] <fabbione>   SSL_KEY=$( (grep "ssl_key_file" /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf || echo '/etc/ssl/pr
[05:53] <fabbione> ivate/dovecot.pem') | cut -d'=' -f2)
[05:54] <fabbione>   # Generate new certs if needed
[05:54] <fabbione>   if [ -f $SSL_CERT ]  && [ -f $SSL_KEY ] ; then
[05:54] <fabbione>     echo "You already have ssl certs for dovecot."
[05:54] <fabbione> yes it does
[05:54] <sanmarcos> ohh that you mean, yes I have that
[05:54] <fabbione> it expects 2 separate files for cert and key
[05:54] <fabbione> or at least both the entry in the config
[05:54] <sanmarcos> yeah but does not check for /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
[05:54] <fabbione> there is no need to
[05:55] <fabbione> the default config points to that
[05:55] <sanmarcos> ah ok
[05:55] <fabbione> if you change the default config, it changes the check
[05:55] <sanmarcos> heh, that is why
[05:55] <fabbione> so as i am saying.. it works :)
[05:55] <sanmarcos> thank you for taking your time to clarify my confusion
[05:55] <fabbione> no problem
[05:55] <fabbione> given that i did the patch for ssl-cert-snakeoil thingy :)
[05:56] <sanmarcos> nice
[05:56] <sanmarcos> still I dont know why it was generating a new dovecot.pem cert with start date 05 and end 06 (october)
[05:57] <sanmarcos> anyhow, I couldnt care, since I made my own
[05:58] <sanmarcos> ahh it feels nice to do some maintenance on servers.. fixing all the erorrs
[08:45] <porkpie1> Hi guy's ....can anyone tell me where I can find the driver for a PERC 5/i raid contoller
[08:45] <porkpie1> controller
[11:15] <porkpie1> ivoks:hi
[11:15] <ivoks> hi
[11:15] <porkpie1> I spoke to dell today and it's deffinatley hardware raid 
[11:16] <ivoks> hehe
[11:16] <porkpie1> When I installed the os both drives were active ....I think the issue is the megaraid_sas driver
[11:16] <ivoks> did you ask them do they know what's software raid?
[11:16] <porkpie1> Yeah ....
[11:16] <ivoks> and?
[11:16] <porkpie1> software raid is controlled by the OS 
[11:17] <ivoks> right
[11:17] <porkpie1> I have deleted the raid configuration and  recreated it  ...
[11:17] <ivoks> and, on install, you see one or two/three disks?
[11:17] <porkpie1> 3
[11:18] <ivoks> so... that's impossible with hardware raid
[11:18] <porkpie1> ubuntu is detecting the physical drive as well as the logical drive
[11:18] <ivoks> right
[11:19] <ivoks> with hardware raid you see one disk or you don't see anything
[11:19] <ivoks> system can not see all disks
[11:19] <porkpie1> I even tried installing on sda but it still failed with error 21
[11:19] <porkpie1> I agree 
[11:19] <ivoks> that's what linux calls fakeraid
[11:20] <ivoks> in the end, it's a software raid
[11:20] <ivoks> it's controlled by the driver
[11:20] <ivoks> i.e. driver for hardware raid is used to detect controller
[11:20] <ivoks> driver for fakeraid is used to detect controller and set up raid fields
[11:20] <porkpie1> hmm!
[11:21] <ivoks> software raid is used when there is no raid controller
[11:21] <porkpie1> how did the other guy get his 1950 to work ....
[11:21] <ivoks> porkpie1: it had other raid controller
[11:22] <ivoks> maybe you noticed, but dell calls all their controllers PERC
[11:22] <ivoks> or whatever
[11:22] <ivoks> they even have same number - 5
[11:22] <ivoks> but one costs 0$, and other 700$
[11:22] <ivoks> which one do you think is hardware raid? :)
[11:23] <ivoks> go with linux software raid
[11:24] <porkpie1> well according to dell the PERC 5/i is and LSI card
[11:25] <porkpie1> http://www.lsilogic.com/cm/LookupDownloads.do?role=1&geo=ALL&category=-1&family=-1&product=8279&subtypes=Driver
[11:25] <ivoks> porkpie1: please read http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[11:26] <porkpie1> http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid_sas/index.html
[11:26] <porkpie1> ivoks:this is sas not sata
[11:28] <porkpie1> ivoks:the link you sent me is for sata which dell use on there desktops .....this is different it's scsi
[11:31] <ivoks> hm
[11:32] <porkpie1> ivoks:I think if I can get the correct driver for the initramfs ...it might work ??
[11:32] <ivoks> initramfs isn't the problem
[11:32] <porkpie1> ??
[11:32] <ivoks> porkpie1: your grub dies... that's before initramfs is loaded
[11:33] <porkpie1> Yeah
[11:33] <porkpie1> IC
[11:33] <ivoks> porkpie1: this happens with fakeraids, when you install system on disk, but not on raid
[11:33] <ivoks> porkpie1: and you see disks, not raid in installation
[11:33] <porkpie1> Hmm! yeah
[11:34] <ivoks> porkpie1: maybe you didn't set up raid correctly?
[11:34] <porkpie1> ivoks:it's very simple ...I have set it up twice now ....I even went through it with Dell ...
[11:35] <ivoks> http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/
[11:35] <porkpie1> what am I looking for
[11:35] <ivoks> anything :)
[11:35] <porkpie1> hahahaha
[11:36] <porkpie1> shit  ...I might as well send this box back 
[11:36] <porkpie1> ivoks:there must be a way to get this to work.  It works with RH and Suse
[11:36] <ivoks> so... megaraid_sas should detect raid, not disks
[11:37] <ivoks> maybe some modules loads before and detects disks?
[11:37] <porkpie1> in the install you mean
[11:37] <ivoks> yes
[11:37] <porkpie1> hmm!
[11:37] <porkpie1> not much we can do about that is there ?
[11:37] <ivoks> start install and, when you get to partitioner
[11:38] <ivoks> choose 'go back'
[11:38] <porkpie1> OK
[11:38] <porkpie1> doing it now
[11:38] <ivoks> then shift to alt+f2
[11:38] <ivoks> and lsmod | grep megaraid
[11:42] <porkpie1> megaraid_sas  
[11:43] <porkpie1> scsi_mod 160504 4 usb_storage,sg,sd_mod,megaraid_sas
[11:44] <porkpie1> ivoks:?
[11:45] <ivoks> that looks ok
[11:45] <ivoks> but you don't see raid :/
[11:46] <porkpie1> hmm! what does that mean
[11:48] <ivoks> could you export dmesg to some file
[11:48] <ivoks> and upload it somewhere?
[11:48] <ivoks> dmesg > dmesg_log
[11:48] <ivoks> mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[11:48] <porkpie1> hmm! how would I get it off the drive
[11:48] <ivoks> cp dmesg_log /mnt
[11:48] <ivoks> umount /mnt
[11:48] <porkpie1> ivoks:no floppy drive
[11:48] <ivoks> of course, you need floppy :)
[11:48] <ivoks> oh...
[11:48] <ivoks> scp?
[11:49] <porkpie1> not network connection
[11:49] <ivoks> dhclient eth0
[11:49] <porkpie1> it  doesn't detect the card
[11:49] <ivoks> nice :/
[11:49] <ivoks> usb?
[11:50] <porkpie1> I have usb slots
[11:50] <porkpie1> yes
[11:50] <ivoks> and usb key/stick? :)
[11:50] <porkpie1> I have a usb stick as well
[11:50] <ivoks> there you go
[11:50] <porkpie1> OK let me get the stick ...2 secs ...can you run me through the commands
[11:50] <ivoks> porkpie1: dmesg, lspci
[11:51] <ivoks> sure
[11:51] <ivoks> dmesg : dmesg_log
[11:51] <porkpie1> 2 secs
[11:51] <ivoks> grr
[11:51] <ivoks> dmesg > dmesg_log
[11:51] <ivoks> lspci > lspci_log
[11:51] <ivoks> lspci -vv > lspci-vv
[11:52] <porkpie1> OK doing it now
[11:55] <porkpie1> the last command didn't work
[11:55] <porkpie1> switch is wrong
[11:56] <porkpie1> invalid option w
[11:56] <porkpie1> -w
[11:56] <ivoks> -vv
[11:56] <ivoks> not -w
[11:56] <porkpie1> OK
[11:56] <porkpie1> upper case
[11:56] <ivoks> no
[11:56] <ivoks> two v
[11:56] <porkpie1> OK
[11:56] <ivoks> not double w
[11:57] <porkpie1> OK ...it that it
[11:57] <ivoks> that's it
[11:57] <ivoks> copy them to stick and upload somewhere
[11:57] <porkpie1> hmm! how do I cp to the stick 
[11:58] <porkpie1> sorry 
[11:58] <ivoks> run dmesg
[11:58] <ivoks> last lines will tell you the name of the stick
[11:58] <ivoks> proabably /dev/sdd1
[11:58] <porkpie1> yeah thats it
[11:59] <ivoks> mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt
[12:02] <porkpie1> do you only want dmesg_log
[12:02] <ivoks> no, all three files
[12:03] <porkpie1> blast I took the stick out before umount ....I need to remount
[12:04] <porkpie1> eh I cant remount
[12:04] <ivoks> umount it first
[12:04] <ivoks> then mount it again
[12:04] <ivoks> copy
[12:04] <ivoks> umount
[12:05] <porkpie1> hmm! no such file or dir ..sorry about this