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mbvoI'm trying to install jre, how do i get the mutiverse thing on synaptic package manager on edubuntu?05:51
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omarhi guys I installed frostwire and it dowsn't open , what can I do06:21
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cbx33did anyone find out about MV yeT?07:38
highvoltagewhat does MV stand for again?07:39
cbx33Mountain View07:39
highvoltageah right07:39
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RichEdhi Burgundavia you awake ?08:47
BurgundaviaRichEd: yes, but quite busy09:10
RichEdNo problem ... just checking in to see we are all okay after the passionate debate the other day :)09:11
Burgundaviaoh yeop09:12
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RichEdhi willvdl ... how's big bad jo'burg ?09:40
willvdlHi RichEd. I am now exhausted :)09:41
RichEdIt's been quite productive so far :) What's on the cards for today ?09:42
RichEdAnd when do you see Edward ? Did you read his comments in the KDE mail blip.09:43
willvdlHaven't had a chance to se Edward yet unfortunately09:48
willvdlToday and tomorrow involves a lot of door-knocking again09:49
RichEd[Did you read his comments in the KDE mail blip ?] 09:51
RichEdIt would be good for us to chat about an approach to him before you see him ... 09:51
willvdlyeah I did09:52
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DeMoNSeEdi wanted to know, if you know of someone who would be willing to write up a little user review/ experience tpye of deal on Edubuntu10:22
DeMoNSeEdi would like to feature it as a distro on our site and that type of thing always goes along well with it10:23
BurgundaviaDeMoNSeEd: the -marketing team can help you with that10:23
RichEdThat's great ... I'll do or manage that for you ... what's your site ?10:23
DeMoNSeEdwithin the next couple weeks we're adding a L.I.E section10:24
RichEdDeMoNSeEd: I'm Education 1st list contact, and I need to develop links like the one you are offering ... so I'll hold your hand through this one, and liaise with marketing if we need it.10:24
RichEd*1st line contact10:25
RichEdchecking out your site now ... brb10:25
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DeMoNSeEdcool, the L.I.E is still to come, i want to set it up right, to hilite the abilities of Edubuntu  and linux as a whole in the edu enviro10:26
DeMoNSeEdit's lacking right now, i've just this eve deleted some stuff on front page to make way for new tomorrow10:26
tomveensHave you read the articles saying that there is a need on school for educational games?10:27
tomveensI have read the dutch version so I don't know where there is an english one10:27
RichEdAhhhh ... right on target with my current pitch ... do you have any Ubuntu contact / help / info yet ?10:28
DeMoNSeEdread it, i live it, i've been trying for months to get it in our local schoo;, i get so very very close, but apparently, there's a certain degree of resistance, for a person up the line, but i know i will win out10:28
DeMoNSeEdnope, actually kinda ticked in a way10:29
RichEdHow about we work towards a font page story for the Edgy release on October 26th ?10:29
DeMoNSeEdi had ordered via my shipit some edubuntus, i never got them10:29
tomveensit takes six weeks10:30
RichEdI can give you a good picture of Ubuntu and Edubuntu and how they fit together ... and our plans for the next year.10:30
DeMoNSeEdsure, i'll gladly just put fluff up there till then10:30
RichEd(for the education programe)10:30
RichEdCheck this out for a quick ref: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy10:31
DeMoNSeEdand if it's cool with you as i bring my Linux in Education section online, i'll keep in touch with you?10:31
RichEdYou can cull some good stuff from there ... without much tweaking. Use that in the meanwhile.10:31
RichEdDeMoNSeEd: great -> off to msg window for a quickie10:32
tomveensIs there a game development section of edubuntu? 10:34
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RichEdtomveens: no, but we're busy making a space where people can discuss this and share learnings / research / collaborate10:41
DeMoNSeEdg'night everyone, take care10:52
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cbx33ping ogra12:02
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sirexI'm planning to install edubuntu in all computers of a school.12:41
sirexBut that school has computers not very fast.12:41
sirexSo I planing to install Xubuntu.12:42
sirexAnd vanted to know is there are a way to get all dep packages in one place, that I could install it in Xubuntu?12:43
RichEdhi sirex ... I am a bit busy now ... but I could help if you sent me an email ? riched@ubuntu.com12:44
RichEdsirex : No mail as yet ... please send even a short query mail ... I am going in to a meeting now ... and don't want to lose your request. I need to understand and solve your problem !12:54
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sirexOne minute..01:06
sirexRichEd: already sended it01:09
AmaranthSo if I didn't get an email or anything that means I didn't get sponsorship to go to mountain view, right?01:29
rodarvusUDS emails were sent this morning?01:33
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Amaranthsupposedly they were sent yesterday01:34
Amaranththat's what the wiki says01:34
Amaranth"Notification of those chosen for sponsorship will be notified on Mon 2nd Oct 2006."01:35
juliuxwhy is the next uds in the usa?01:40
RichEdsirex ... you there still ?01:44
ograjuliux, because it was about time to ... we have many users in the US 01:46
juliuxogra, but very strict laws if you travel from europe in the usa01:47
juliuxogra, and you need a new passport ;)01:47
ograi didnt two weeks ago01:47
juliuxhm 01:48
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ograafter i was there recently i can just say its way less scary than everybody thinks :)01:48
rodarvusUSA is scary, but not for (most) europeans01:49
rodarvusAmaranth, afaik, no email has been sent (yet)01:49
ograapart from having a horrible long biarding time in frankfurt it was like any other travel i did the last yers01:49
juliuxi think if they want my personal data they should come to me not i am to them01:49
ograwell, right, they take your fingerprints and a pic if you enter and exit the country01:50
ograbut they could do that secretly as well very easy ... so whats the point... at least they tell you 01:50
juliuxyes but if they do it secretly it cost them money01:51
RichEdjuliux: do you selectively control the right of access to people who arrive at your front door, asking to visit ?01:52
ograjuliux, why ? they have observation cameras on airports anyway .. 01:53
sirexRichEd: yep01:53
juliuxogra, cameras but no fingerprints ;)01:53
ograi guess it would have been cheaper to use these instead of setting up dedicated ones01:53
juliuxogra, and they have the picutre but not more01:53
RichEdNot that I am supporting the US or its policies ... but it their crib, and you want to visit, so they screen you.01:53
RichEdsirex ... the machine spec you sent me is great for Edubuntu LTSP workstations ... have you considered that option ?01:54
juliuxogra, and don't forget, they need the money you spend there so, why should give them my fingerprints ?01:54
ograwell, its their rule 01:55
juliuxand my rule is not to go there;)01:55
ograyou dont need to agree ... but then you cant go :)01:55
juliuxi dont want to go to the usa01:56
ogranobody forces you :)01:56
juliuxthere are enough countries who loves to get my money01:56
sirexRichEd: no havn't considered it, LTSP is like a server? Now im searching the web about it..01:57
juliuxfor example Czech Republic01:57
RichEdsirex ... hang on 2 mins and I will give you a quick intro and links01:57
ograjuliux, thats so german ... " countries who loves to get my money"01:58
juliuxogra, i know01:58
RichEdsirex: LTSP is a LAN based configuration allowing low spec machines to boot directly & run off a central LTSP server.02:03
sirexbut for I needs one big server?02:04
RichEdsirex: Edubuntu LTSP Server is installed on one decent spec hardware box, and the remaining workstations all run off this server. The desktop configuration is standardised, with a single central point of admin.02:04
RichEdogra will be able to tell you the spec of the box ... ogra ?02:04
ogra256M for the server itself, 128M per client you attach ...02:05
RichEdsirex has got 20x: CPU: 233 MHz /  RAM:    64 MB - 92 MB / HDD:    5 GB - 8 GB02:05
ograi.e. with 1G memory you can run 6 clients02:05
ograand indeed the clients need no HD 02:06
sirexhm, this LTSP thinkg sounds dificult.. :)02:06
RichEdhe was looking at Xubuntu and adding Edu apps, but his life would be some much easier with an Edubuntu LTSP install ?02:06
RichEd*so much02:06
ograit isnt ... edubuntu sets it up for you on install (at oleast in edgy, which will release in 3 weeks)02:06
RichEdsirex: I'll find you a link ... you can read it up for yourself ... it is easy to install and use, much easier than maintainnig a "custom xubuntu" install !02:08
ograright, the big advantage is that everything you have to maintain is the server ... all user sessions run there02:08
sirexogra, do you mean that on edgy edubuntu alsow comes with witch xfce?02:08
ograso /home and userdata is in a central place ...02:08
ograas well as all maintenance 02:08
ogranope ... we didnt have the space on the CD for xfce 02:08
ograwe'll tra to target that for edgy+102:08
ograthere is a spec thats approved, but the space constraints kept us from implementing it yet02:09
sirexhm, so then for LTSP I will need an server with at least 256Mb of ram and big hdd, and all I need is to set up one server?02:10
ograsirex, right, then rip out the HDs from the clients and make them netboot ... 02:11
ograthats all02:11
RichEdhttps://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation <- start here02:11
sirexogra one LTSP server can handle only 6 clients?02:11
RichEdhttps://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook <- then here02:11
ograsirex, the ltsp server needs 256M to run the server processes and 128M for every running client ... so with 1G main memory you can run 6 clients02:12
ograwith 2G you can run 14 ... etc etc02:13
ograsince the clients share stuff in ram on the server i guess even 20 would be possible with 2G02:13
RichEdand detail is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/ThinClient02:13
ograthe clients themselves can be very low spec ...02:14
ogra CPU: 233 MHz / RAM: 64 MB would totally suffice here ...02:14
ogra(and no HD)02:15
sirexNow I undertood every thing.. :) Well its realy nice thing!02:17
RichEdSirex ... it is way easier to sort out your one big box, and stick with Edubuntu, than build a custom install. You will then be welcome in the Edubuntu community with a standard install each release - 80% of our Education focus is around Edubuntu.02:19
RichEd( Xubuntu is not a big focus for us we have far more LTSP users in Education )02:19
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RichEdso, mr highvoltage, whaich is easier for a newish user to install and maintain (and get support): xubuntu + manual install of edu applications, or a standard edubuntu LTSP ?02:23
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highvoltageRichEd: about equally. edubuntu takes about 10 minutes faster to install, probably. Xubuntu is faster on the actual network, though.02:24
highvoltageRichEd: the installation of the edu stuff is just an apt-get install away :)02:24
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RichEdSo I want to know is there a way, that I could get all educational packages02:25
RichEdfrom Edubuntu in one place as .deb files? 02:25
RichEdThen I be able to do this:02:25
RichEd    % cd edubuntu_debs02:25
RichEd    % sudo dpkg -i *.deb02:25
highvoltageRichEd: sorry, I didn't see your original question :)02:27
highvoltageRichEd: yes, you can do that02:27
highvoltageRichEd: except it should be sudo dpkg -i *.deb if your shell prompt ends with a % ;)02:28
RichEdhighvoltage: [1]  it was in the mail ;) [2]  where does he find the files (archive)02:28
highvoltageRichEd: [1]  what was the subject of the mail? I don't think I got it.02:28
RichEdI will forward on ... it was a one-to-one request from IRC interaction because I was in a meeting and the channel was quiet.02:29
highvoltage[2]  the simplest way is to install all the things you want on a clean system and then find the files in /var/cache/apt/archives02:29
RichEdI'll mail it to the user and CC the mail lsit, so that all can benefit from your wisdom in one sweet answer !02:30
highvoltageaah, I understand :)02:30
highvoltageI thoght you were refering to an e-mail you sent to me!02:30
sirexI thought bout it too, that it is probably esiest way to install all packages through apt-get and then tar -czf it from /var/cache/apt/archives02:32
sirexBut NTLS way is better.. :)02:34
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highvoltageb b bd b b bb02:37
highvoltagehi bddebian 02:37
bddebianHeya highvoltage :-)02:38
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highvoltagewillvdl: wb02:41
willvdldo you know how to get firefox language packs?02:51
willvdltranslate.org.za haS packs for sepedi02:51
highvoltage"apt-cache search firefox | grep language" will show you a list02:51
highvoltageoh translate.org.za packs... hmmm... I'm not sure you currently get them for Ubuntu02:52
willvdlthey have xpi files for firefox02:53
willvdlon their website02:53
willvdlbut our firefox version is .0.5 ...02:54
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willvdl_one bar on my 3g card...02:57
cbx33hey willvdl 02:58
cbx33any news on MV yet?02:58
RichEdhey CharlieBravoXylophonethirtythree03:00
RichEdany news on the ICT Chairpersonship yet ?03:01
cbx33not yet03:02
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Petarisogra: ping03:52
PetarisIs there any other way to specify the screen res on the clients other then specifying the horizontal and vertical sync rates?03:54
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sbalneavMorning all04:24
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RichEdhi DeMoNSeEd04:43
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willvdlping RichEd05:35
RichEdhi willvdl 05:37
willvdlseven kinds of busy here prepping for internal launch05:37
RichEdHPX you mean inside HP ?05:38
RichEdor NEPAD ?05:38
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lguerraRichEd: ping05:57
RichEdpong lguerra 05:59
DeMoNSeEdRichEd, i have to run out for a bit, i'll bbl06:20
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LaserJockmorning Edubuntu people06:26
Burgworkmorning LaserJock 06:26
highvoltagemorning LaserJock and Burgwork 06:28
willvdlanyone know of a cgi:irc server that will get to #edubuntu?06:28
LaserJockRichEd: still up?06:32
Kamping_Kaiserhi LaserJock  :)06:34
Kamping_Kaiserhi all otehr people active at 2 am :)06:34
LaserJock9:30 am here ;-)06:34
highvoltageKamping_Kaiser: 18:37 here :)06:37
Kamping_Kaiserhighvoltage, 02:08 here :)06:38
Kamping_Kaisergah, wish it was 1800 here  - it would mean i hadnt wasted another 6 hours of my life ;)06:38
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highvoltageheh :)06:41
LaserJockhi cbx33 06:45
cbx33LaserJock, dude !!06:46
cbx33LaserJock, my new sound card came06:46
cbx33w0h yeh06:46
cbx33taken soem pics for the blog06:46
cbx33just trying to get it working with jack06:46
Petarisjack can be confusing to setup at times06:50
cbx33and it's done06:50
PetarisI've played with it a few times06:51
cbx33I was setting the channel count06:51
cbx33to get it to work with my old card06:51
cbx33however with this stonking new card I dont need to06:51
PetarisWhich card?06:51
cbx33an M-Audio Delta 1010 LT06:51
cbx3310 in 10 out yeh it's nice ;)06:51
PetarisI have always like Turtle Beach cards, but they just don't have many jacks06:52
cbx33well someone funded me this card06:53
Petarisare you doing audio editing or studio recording or something?06:53
cbx33and I am so totally stoked06:53
cbx33Petaris, I'm doing the startup sounds for edgy06:53
Petarisand you need a card like that?06:53
PetarisWhat software are you going to use?06:54
cbx33well, it was recommended to me and bought for me06:54
cbx33ardour naturally06:54
Petarisplayed with that too06:54
cbx33it rocks06:54
Petarisaudacity is also quite good, but has less functionality06:54
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