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mbvo | I'm trying to install jre, how do i get the mutiverse thing on synaptic package manager on edubuntu? | 05:51 |
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omar | hi guys I installed frostwire and it dowsn't open , what can I do | 06:21 |
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highvoltage | :) | 07:37 |
cbx33 | did anyone find out about MV yeT? | 07:38 |
highvoltage | what does MV stand for again? | 07:39 |
cbx33 | Mountain View | 07:39 |
highvoltage | ah right | 07:39 |
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RichEd | mornin' | 08:34 |
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RichEd | hi Burgundavia you awake ? | 08:47 |
Burgundavia | RichEd: yes, but quite busy | 09:10 |
RichEd | No problem ... just checking in to see we are all okay after the passionate debate the other day :) | 09:11 |
Burgundavia | oh yeop | 09:12 |
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RichEd | hi willvdl ... how's big bad jo'burg ? | 09:40 |
willvdl | Hi RichEd. I am now exhausted :) | 09:41 |
RichEd | It's been quite productive so far :) What's on the cards for today ? | 09:42 |
RichEd | And when do you see Edward ? Did you read his comments in the KDE mail blip. | 09:43 |
willvdl | Haven't had a chance to se Edward yet unfortunately | 09:48 |
willvdl | Today and tomorrow involves a lot of door-knocking again | 09:49 |
RichEd | [Did you read his comments in the KDE mail blip ?] | 09:51 |
RichEd | It would be good for us to chat about an approach to him before you see him ... | 09:51 |
willvdl | yeah I did | 09:52 |
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DeMoNSeEd | hello | 10:20 |
RichEd | hi | 10:21 |
DeMoNSeEd | hi! | 10:21 |
RichEd | hello! | 10:21 |
DeMoNSeEd | i wanted to know, if you know of someone who would be willing to write up a little user review/ experience tpye of deal on Edubuntu | 10:22 |
DeMoNSeEd | *type | 10:22 |
DeMoNSeEd | i would like to feature it as a distro on our site and that type of thing always goes along well with it | 10:23 |
Burgundavia | DeMoNSeEd: the -marketing team can help you with that | 10:23 |
RichEd | That's great ... I'll do or manage that for you ... what's your site ? | 10:23 |
DeMoNSeEd | marketing | 10:23 |
DeMoNSeEd | http://www.gotux.org | 10:24 |
DeMoNSeEd | within the next couple weeks we're adding a L.I.E section | 10:24 |
RichEd | DeMoNSeEd: I'm Education 1st list contact, and I need to develop links like the one you are offering ... so I'll hold your hand through this one, and liaise with marketing if we need it. | 10:24 |
RichEd | *1st line contact | 10:25 |
RichEd | checking out your site now ... brb | 10:25 |
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DeMoNSeEd | cool, the L.I.E is still to come, i want to set it up right, to hilite the abilities of Edubuntu and linux as a whole in the edu enviro | 10:26 |
DeMoNSeEd | it's lacking right now, i've just this eve deleted some stuff on front page to make way for new tomorrow | 10:26 |
tomveens | Have you read the articles saying that there is a need on school for educational games? | 10:27 |
tomveens | I have read the dutch version so I don't know where there is an english one | 10:27 |
RichEd | Ahhhh ... right on target with my current pitch ... do you have any Ubuntu contact / help / info yet ? | 10:28 |
DeMoNSeEd | read it, i live it, i've been trying for months to get it in our local schoo;, i get so very very close, but apparently, there's a certain degree of resistance, for a person up the line, but i know i will win out | 10:28 |
DeMoNSeEd | nope, actually kinda ticked in a way | 10:29 |
RichEd | How about we work towards a font page story for the Edgy release on October 26th ? | 10:29 |
DeMoNSeEd | i had ordered via my shipit some edubuntus, i never got them | 10:29 |
tomveens | it takes six weeks | 10:30 |
RichEd | I can give you a good picture of Ubuntu and Edubuntu and how they fit together ... and our plans for the next year. | 10:30 |
DeMoNSeEd | sure, i'll gladly just put fluff up there till then | 10:30 |
RichEd | (for the education programe) | 10:30 |
DeMoNSeEd | super | 10:30 |
RichEd | Check this out for a quick ref: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy | 10:31 |
DeMoNSeEd | and if it's cool with you as i bring my Linux in Education section online, i'll keep in touch with you? | 10:31 |
RichEd | You can cull some good stuff from there ... without much tweaking. Use that in the meanwhile. | 10:31 |
RichEd | DeMoNSeEd: great -> off to msg window for a quickie | 10:32 |
tomveens | Is there a game development section of edubuntu? | 10:34 |
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RichEd | tomveens: no, but we're busy making a space where people can discuss this and share learnings / research / collaborate | 10:41 |
DeMoNSeEd | g'night everyone, take care | 10:52 |
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cbx33 | ping ogra | 12:02 |
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sirex | Hello | 12:40 |
sirex | I'm planning to install edubuntu in all computers of a school. | 12:41 |
sirex | But that school has computers not very fast. | 12:41 |
sirex | So I planing to install Xubuntu. | 12:42 |
sirex | And vanted to know is there are a way to get all dep packages in one place, that I could install it in Xubuntu? | 12:43 |
sirex | s/dep/deb | 12:43 |
RichEd | hi sirex ... I am a bit busy now ... but I could help if you sent me an email ? riched@ubuntu.com | 12:44 |
sirex | ok | 12:45 |
RichEd | sirex : No mail as yet ... please send even a short query mail ... I am going in to a meeting now ... and don't want to lose your request. I need to understand and solve your problem ! | 12:54 |
RichEd | Thanks | 12:54 |
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sirex | ok | 01:06 |
sirex | One minute.. | 01:06 |
sirex | RichEd: already sended it | 01:09 |
RichEd | thanks | 01:09 |
Amaranth | So if I didn't get an email or anything that means I didn't get sponsorship to go to mountain view, right? | 01:29 |
rodarvus | UDS emails were sent this morning? | 01:33 |
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Amaranth | supposedly they were sent yesterday | 01:34 |
Amaranth | that's what the wiki says | 01:34 |
Amaranth | "Notification of those chosen for sponsorship will be notified on Mon 2nd Oct 2006." | 01:35 |
juliux | why is the next uds in the usa? | 01:40 |
RichEd | sirex ... you there still ? | 01:44 |
ogra | juliux, because it was about time to ... we have many users in the US | 01:46 |
juliux | ogra, but very strict laws if you travel from europe in the usa | 01:47 |
juliux | ogra, and you need a new passport ;) | 01:47 |
ogra | i didnt two weeks ago | 01:47 |
juliux | hm | 01:48 |
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ogra | after i was there recently i can just say its way less scary than everybody thinks :) | 01:48 |
rodarvus | USA is scary, but not for (most) europeans | 01:49 |
rodarvus | Amaranth, afaik, no email has been sent (yet) | 01:49 |
ogra | apart from having a horrible long biarding time in frankfurt it was like any other travel i did the last yers | 01:49 |
juliux | i think if they want my personal data they should come to me not i am to them | 01:49 |
ogra | well, right, they take your fingerprints and a pic if you enter and exit the country | 01:50 |
ogra | but they could do that secretly as well very easy ... so whats the point... at least they tell you | 01:50 |
juliux | yes but if they do it secretly it cost them money | 01:51 |
RichEd | juliux: do you selectively control the right of access to people who arrive at your front door, asking to visit ? | 01:52 |
ogra | juliux, why ? they have observation cameras on airports anyway .. | 01:53 |
sirex | RichEd: yep | 01:53 |
juliux | ogra, cameras but no fingerprints ;) | 01:53 |
ogra | i guess it would have been cheaper to use these instead of setting up dedicated ones | 01:53 |
juliux | ogra, and they have the picutre but not more | 01:53 |
RichEd | Not that I am supporting the US or its policies ... but it their crib, and you want to visit, so they screen you. | 01:53 |
RichEd | sirex ... the machine spec you sent me is great for Edubuntu LTSP workstations ... have you considered that option ? | 01:54 |
juliux | ogra, and don't forget, they need the money you spend there so, why should give them my fingerprints ? | 01:54 |
ogra | well, its their rule | 01:55 |
juliux | and my rule is not to go there;) | 01:55 |
ogra | you dont need to agree ... but then you cant go :) | 01:55 |
juliux | i dont want to go to the usa | 01:56 |
ogra | nobody forces you :) | 01:56 |
juliux | there are enough countries who loves to get my money | 01:56 |
sirex | RichEd: no havn't considered it, LTSP is like a server? Now im searching the web about it.. | 01:57 |
juliux | for example Czech Republic | 01:57 |
RichEd | sirex ... hang on 2 mins and I will give you a quick intro and links | 01:57 |
ogra | juliux, thats so german ... " countries who loves to get my money" | 01:58 |
juliux | ogra, i know | 01:58 |
RichEd | sirex: LTSP is a LAN based configuration allowing low spec machines to boot directly & run off a central LTSP server. | 02:03 |
sirex | thanks.. | 02:03 |
sirex | but for I needs one big server? | 02:04 |
RichEd | sirex: Edubuntu LTSP Server is installed on one decent spec hardware box, and the remaining workstations all run off this server. The desktop configuration is standardised, with a single central point of admin. | 02:04 |
RichEd | ogra will be able to tell you the spec of the box ... ogra ? | 02:04 |
ogra | 256M for the server itself, 128M per client you attach ... | 02:05 |
RichEd | sirex has got 20x: CPU: 233 MHz / RAM: 64 MB - 92 MB / HDD: 5 GB - 8 GB | 02:05 |
ogra | i.e. with 1G memory you can run 6 clients | 02:05 |
ogra | and indeed the clients need no HD | 02:06 |
sirex | hm, this LTSP thinkg sounds dificult.. :) | 02:06 |
RichEd | he was looking at Xubuntu and adding Edu apps, but his life would be some much easier with an Edubuntu LTSP install ? | 02:06 |
RichEd | *so much | 02:06 |
ogra | it isnt ... edubuntu sets it up for you on install (at oleast in edgy, which will release in 3 weeks) | 02:06 |
RichEd | sirex: I'll find you a link ... you can read it up for yourself ... it is easy to install and use, much easier than maintainnig a "custom xubuntu" install ! | 02:08 |
ogra | right, the big advantage is that everything you have to maintain is the server ... all user sessions run there | 02:08 |
sirex | ogra, do you mean that on edgy edubuntu alsow comes with witch xfce? | 02:08 |
ogra | so /home and userdata is in a central place ... | 02:08 |
ogra | as well as all maintenance | 02:08 |
ogra | nope ... we didnt have the space on the CD for xfce | 02:08 |
ogra | we'll tra to target that for edgy+1 | 02:08 |
ogra | there is a spec thats approved, but the space constraints kept us from implementing it yet | 02:09 |
sirex | hm, so then for LTSP I will need an server with at least 256Mb of ram and big hdd, and all I need is to set up one server? | 02:10 |
tomveens | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWiring | 02:10 |
ogra | sirex, right, then rip out the HDs from the clients and make them netboot ... | 02:11 |
ogra | thats all | 02:11 |
RichEd | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation <- start here | 02:11 |
sirex | ogra one LTSP server can handle only 6 clients? | 02:11 |
RichEd | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook <- then here | 02:11 |
ogra | sirex, the ltsp server needs 256M to run the server processes and 128M for every running client ... so with 1G main memory you can run 6 clients | 02:12 |
ogra | with 2G you can run 14 ... etc etc | 02:13 |
ogra | since the clients share stuff in ram on the server i guess even 20 would be possible with 2G | 02:13 |
RichEd | and detail is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/ThinClient | 02:13 |
ogra | the clients themselves can be very low spec ... | 02:14 |
ogra | CPU: 233 MHz / RAM: 64 MB would totally suffice here ... | 02:14 |
ogra | (and no HD) | 02:15 |
sirex | Now I undertood every thing.. :) Well its realy nice thing! | 02:17 |
sirex | :) | 02:17 |
RichEd | Sirex ... it is way easier to sort out your one big box, and stick with Edubuntu, than build a custom install. You will then be welcome in the Edubuntu community with a standard install each release - 80% of our Education focus is around Edubuntu. | 02:19 |
RichEd | ( Xubuntu is not a big focus for us we have far more LTSP users in Education ) | 02:19 |
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RichEd | so, mr highvoltage, whaich is easier for a newish user to install and maintain (and get support): xubuntu + manual install of edu applications, or a standard edubuntu LTSP ? | 02:23 |
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highvoltage | RichEd: about equally. edubuntu takes about 10 minutes faster to install, probably. Xubuntu is faster on the actual network, though. | 02:24 |
highvoltage | RichEd: the installation of the edu stuff is just an apt-get install away :) | 02:24 |
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RichEd | So I want to know is there a way, that I could get all educational packages | 02:25 |
RichEd | from Edubuntu in one place as .deb files? | 02:25 |
RichEd | Then I be able to do this: | 02:25 |
RichEd | % cd edubuntu_debs | 02:25 |
RichEd | % sudo dpkg -i *.deb | 02:25 |
highvoltage | RichEd: sorry, I didn't see your original question :) | 02:27 |
highvoltage | RichEd: yes, you can do that | 02:27 |
highvoltage | RichEd: except it should be sudo dpkg -i *.deb if your shell prompt ends with a % ;) | 02:28 |
RichEd | highvoltage: [1] it was in the mail ;) [2] where does he find the files (archive) | 02:28 |
highvoltage | RichEd: [1] what was the subject of the mail? I don't think I got it. | 02:28 |
RichEd | I will forward on ... it was a one-to-one request from IRC interaction because I was in a meeting and the channel was quiet. | 02:29 |
highvoltage | [2] the simplest way is to install all the things you want on a clean system and then find the files in /var/cache/apt/archives | 02:29 |
RichEd | I'll mail it to the user and CC the mail lsit, so that all can benefit from your wisdom in one sweet answer ! | 02:30 |
highvoltage | aah, I understand :) | 02:30 |
highvoltage | I thoght you were refering to an e-mail you sent to me! | 02:30 |
sirex | I thought bout it too, that it is probably esiest way to install all packages through apt-get and then tar -czf it from /var/cache/apt/archives | 02:32 |
sirex | But NTLS way is better.. :) | 02:34 |
highvoltage | NTLS? | 02:34 |
sirex | LTSP | 02:36 |
sirex | :) | 02:36 |
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highvoltage | b b bd b b bb | 02:37 |
highvoltage | hi bddebian | 02:37 |
bddebian | Heya highvoltage :-) | 02:38 |
highvoltage | :-) | 02:39 |
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highvoltage | willvdl: wb | 02:41 |
willvdl | woot | 02:50 |
highvoltage | wwop | 02:50 |
willvdl | do you know how to get firefox 1.5.0.5 language packs? | 02:51 |
willvdl | translate.org.za haS 1.5.0.7 packs for sepedi | 02:51 |
highvoltage | "apt-cache search firefox | grep language" will show you a list | 02:51 |
highvoltage | oh translate.org.za packs... hmmm... I'm not sure you currently get them for Ubuntu | 02:52 |
willvdl | they have xpi files for firefox | 02:53 |
willvdl | on their website | 02:53 |
willvdl | but our firefox version is .0.5 ... | 02:54 |
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willvdl_ | one bar on my 3g card... | 02:57 |
cbx33 | hey willvdl | 02:58 |
cbx33 | any news on MV yet? | 02:58 |
RichEd | hey CharlieBravoXylophonethirtythree | 03:00 |
RichEd | any news on the ICT Chairpersonship yet ? | 03:01 |
cbx33 | not yet | 03:02 |
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Petaris | ogra: ping | 03:52 |
Petaris | Is there any other way to specify the screen res on the clients other then specifying the horizontal and vertical sync rates? | 03:54 |
Petaris | biab | 04:06 |
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RichEd | quit | 04:19 |
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sbalneav | Morning all | 04:24 |
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RichEd | hi DeMoNSeEd | 04:43 |
DeMoNSeEd | ty | 04:43 |
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willvdl | ping RichEd | 05:35 |
RichEd | hi willvdl | 05:37 |
willvdl | seven kinds of busy here prepping for internal launch | 05:37 |
RichEd | HPX you mean inside HP ? | 05:38 |
RichEd | or NEPAD ? | 05:38 |
willvdl | HP | 05:38 |
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lguerra | RichEd: ping | 05:57 |
RichEd | pong lguerra | 05:59 |
DeMoNSeEd | RichEd, i have to run out for a bit, i'll bbl | 06:20 |
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LaserJock | morning Edubuntu people | 06:26 |
Burgwork | morning LaserJock | 06:26 |
highvoltage | morning LaserJock and Burgwork | 06:28 |
willvdl | anyone know of a cgi:irc server that will get to #edubuntu? | 06:28 |
LaserJock | RichEd: still up? | 06:32 |
Kamping_Kaiser | hi LaserJock :) | 06:34 |
Kamping_Kaiser | hi all otehr people active at 2 am :) | 06:34 |
LaserJock | 9:30 am here ;-) | 06:34 |
Kamping_Kaiser | :P | 06:35 |
Kamping_Kaiser | 2am+beer=win | 06:35 |
highvoltage | Kamping_Kaiser: 18:37 here :) | 06:37 |
Kamping_Kaiser | highvoltage, 02:08 here :) | 06:38 |
Kamping_Kaiser | gah, wish it was 1800 here - it would mean i hadnt wasted another 6 hours of my life ;) | 06:38 |
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highvoltage | heh :) | 06:41 |
cbx33 | w00t | 06:41 |
Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 06:42 |
LaserJock | hi cbx33 | 06:45 |
cbx33 | LaserJock, dude !! | 06:46 |
cbx33 | LaserJock, my new sound card came | 06:46 |
LaserJock | nice? | 06:46 |
cbx33 | w0h yeh | 06:46 |
cbx33 | taken soem pics for the blog | 06:46 |
cbx33 | just trying to get it working with jack | 06:46 |
Petaris | jack can be confusing to setup at times | 06:50 |
cbx33 | and it's done | 06:50 |
cbx33 | :) | 06:50 |
Petaris | I've played with it a few times | 06:51 |
cbx33 | I was setting the channel count | 06:51 |
Petaris | cool | 06:51 |
cbx33 | to get it to work with my old card | 06:51 |
cbx33 | however with this stonking new card I dont need to | 06:51 |
Petaris | Which card? | 06:51 |
cbx33 | an M-Audio Delta 1010 LT | 06:51 |
Petaris | nice | 06:51 |
cbx33 | 10 in 10 out yeh it's nice ;) | 06:51 |
Petaris | I have always like Turtle Beach cards, but they just don't have many jacks | 06:52 |
cbx33 | well someone funded me this card | 06:53 |
Petaris | are you doing audio editing or studio recording or something? | 06:53 |
cbx33 | and I am so totally stoked | 06:53 |
cbx33 | Petaris, I'm doing the startup sounds for edgy | 06:53 |
Petaris | and you need a card like that? | 06:53 |
Petaris | haha | 06:53 |
Petaris | What software are you going to use? | 06:54 |
cbx33 | well, it was recommended to me and bought for me | 06:54 |
cbx33 | ardour naturally | 06:54 |
Petaris | nice | 06:54 |
Petaris | played with that too | 06:54 |
cbx33 | it rocks | 06:54 |
Petaris | audacity is also quite good, but has less functionality | 06:54 |
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