=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Orby [n=grant@bb-87-81-116-75.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === de_wizze [n=ogarro@nat-8.msm.edu] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego [n=cafuego@59.167.191.160] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@143-24-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-146-164-179.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.41.228.162] has joined #edubuntu === mbvo [n=malcolm@user-0c8hk95.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] I'm trying to install jre, how do i get the mutiverse thing on synaptic package manager on edubuntu? === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === crrs [n=claudio@201.19.138.155] has joined #edubuntu === mbvo [n=malcolm@user-0c8hk95.cable.mindspring.com] has left #edubuntu [] === crrs [n=claudio@201.19.138.155] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === omar [n=omar@190.40.230.110] has joined #edubuntu [06:21] hi guys I installed frostwire and it dowsn't open , what can I do === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.57.157] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === superset1 [n=smarinel@adsl-75-15-117-126.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 yawns [07:37] :) [07:38] did anyone find out about MV yeT? [07:39] what does MV stand for again? [07:39] Mountain View [07:39] ah right === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [08:34] mornin' === bimberi_ is now known as bimberi [08:47] hi Burgundavia you awake ? [09:10] RichEd: yes, but quite busy [09:11] No problem ... just checking in to see we are all okay after the passionate debate the other day :) [09:12] oh yeop === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:40] hi willvdl ... how's big bad jo'burg ? [09:41] Hi RichEd. I am now exhausted :) [09:42] It's been quite productive so far :) What's on the cards for today ? [09:43] And when do you see Edward ? Did you read his comments in the KDE mail blip. [09:48] Haven't had a chance to se Edward yet unfortunately [09:49] Today and tomorrow involves a lot of door-knocking again [09:51] [Did you read his comments in the KDE mail blip ?] [09:51] It would be good for us to chat about an approach to him before you see him ... [09:52] yeah I did === DeMoNSeEd [n=DeMoNSeE@bas1-sherbrooke40-1177557023.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu [10:20] hello [10:21] hi [10:21] hi! [10:21] hello! [10:22] i wanted to know, if you know of someone who would be willing to write up a little user review/ experience tpye of deal on Edubuntu [10:22] *type [10:23] i would like to feature it as a distro on our site and that type of thing always goes along well with it [10:23] DeMoNSeEd: the -marketing team can help you with that [10:23] That's great ... I'll do or manage that for you ... what's your site ? [10:23] marketing [10:24] http://www.gotux.org [10:24] within the next couple weeks we're adding a L.I.E section [10:24] DeMoNSeEd: I'm Education 1st list contact, and I need to develop links like the one you are offering ... so I'll hold your hand through this one, and liaise with marketing if we need it. [10:25] *1st line contact [10:25] checking out your site now ... brb === tomveens [n=tomveens@ztn-c-1566b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #edubuntu [10:26] cool, the L.I.E is still to come, i want to set it up right, to hilite the abilities of Edubuntu and linux as a whole in the edu enviro [10:26] it's lacking right now, i've just this eve deleted some stuff on front page to make way for new tomorrow [10:27] Have you read the articles saying that there is a need on school for educational games? [10:27] I have read the dutch version so I don't know where there is an english one [10:28] Ahhhh ... right on target with my current pitch ... do you have any Ubuntu contact / help / info yet ? [10:28] read it, i live it, i've been trying for months to get it in our local schoo;, i get so very very close, but apparently, there's a certain degree of resistance, for a person up the line, but i know i will win out [10:29] nope, actually kinda ticked in a way [10:29] How about we work towards a font page story for the Edgy release on October 26th ? [10:29] i had ordered via my shipit some edubuntus, i never got them [10:30] it takes six weeks [10:30] I can give you a good picture of Ubuntu and Edubuntu and how they fit together ... and our plans for the next year. [10:30] sure, i'll gladly just put fluff up there till then [10:30] (for the education programe) [10:30] super [10:31] Check this out for a quick ref: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy [10:31] and if it's cool with you as i bring my Linux in Education section online, i'll keep in touch with you? [10:31] You can cull some good stuff from there ... without much tweaking. Use that in the meanwhile. [10:32] DeMoNSeEd: great -> off to msg window for a quickie [10:34] Is there a game development section of edubuntu? === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["No] [10:41] tomveens: no, but we're busy making a space where people can discuss this and share learnings / research / collaborate [10:52] g'night everyone, take care === float [n=float@85-124-11-165.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=984ec598@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:02] ping ogra === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@214.pool85-50-135.dynamic.uni2.es] has joined #edubuntu === sirex [n=sirex@office.idamas.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:40] Hello [12:41] I'm planning to install edubuntu in all computers of a school. [12:41] But that school has computers not very fast. [12:42] So I planing to install Xubuntu. [12:43] And vanted to know is there are a way to get all dep packages in one place, that I could install it in Xubuntu? [12:43] s/dep/deb [12:44] hi sirex ... I am a bit busy now ... but I could help if you sent me an email ? riched@ubuntu.com [12:45] ok [12:54] sirex : No mail as yet ... please send even a short query mail ... I am going in to a meeting now ... and don't want to lose your request. I need to understand and solve your problem ! [12:54] Thanks === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [01:06] ok [01:06] One minute.. [01:09] RichEd: already sended it [01:09] thanks [01:29] So if I didn't get an email or anything that means I didn't get sponsorship to go to mountain view, right? [01:33] UDS emails were sent this morning? === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEE3BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:34] supposedly they were sent yesterday [01:34] that's what the wiki says [01:35] "Notification of those chosen for sponsorship will be notified on Mon 2nd Oct 2006." [01:40] why is the next uds in the usa? [01:44] sirex ... you there still ? [01:46] juliux, because it was about time to ... we have many users in the US [01:47] ogra, but very strict laws if you travel from europe in the usa [01:47] ogra, and you need a new passport ;) [01:47] i didnt two weeks ago [01:48] hm === juliux will never travell to the usa [01:48] after i was there recently i can just say its way less scary than everybody thinks :) [01:49] USA is scary, but not for (most) europeans [01:49] Amaranth, afaik, no email has been sent (yet) [01:49] apart from having a horrible long biarding time in frankfurt it was like any other travel i did the last yers [01:49] i think if they want my personal data they should come to me not i am to them [01:50] well, right, they take your fingerprints and a pic if you enter and exit the country [01:50] but they could do that secretly as well very easy ... so whats the point... at least they tell you [01:51] yes but if they do it secretly it cost them money [01:52] juliux: do you selectively control the right of access to people who arrive at your front door, asking to visit ? [01:53] juliux, why ? they have observation cameras on airports anyway .. [01:53] RichEd: yep [01:53] ogra, cameras but no fingerprints ;) [01:53] i guess it would have been cheaper to use these instead of setting up dedicated ones [01:53] ogra, and they have the picutre but not more [01:53] Not that I am supporting the US or its policies ... but it their crib, and you want to visit, so they screen you. [01:54] sirex ... the machine spec you sent me is great for Edubuntu LTSP workstations ... have you considered that option ? [01:54] ogra, and don't forget, they need the money you spend there so, why should give them my fingerprints ? [01:55] well, its their rule [01:55] and my rule is not to go there;) [01:55] you dont need to agree ... but then you cant go :) [01:56] i dont want to go to the usa [01:56] nobody forces you :) [01:56] there are enough countries who loves to get my money [01:57] RichEd: no havn't considered it, LTSP is like a server? Now im searching the web about it.. [01:57] for example Czech Republic [01:57] sirex ... hang on 2 mins and I will give you a quick intro and links [01:58] juliux, thats so german ... " countries who loves to get my money" [01:58] ogra, i know [02:03] sirex: LTSP is a LAN based configuration allowing low spec machines to boot directly & run off a central LTSP server. [02:03] thanks.. [02:04] but for I needs one big server? [02:04] sirex: Edubuntu LTSP Server is installed on one decent spec hardware box, and the remaining workstations all run off this server. The desktop configuration is standardised, with a single central point of admin. [02:04] ogra will be able to tell you the spec of the box ... ogra ? [02:05] 256M for the server itself, 128M per client you attach ... [02:05] sirex has got 20x: CPU: 233 MHz / RAM: 64 MB - 92 MB / HDD: 5 GB - 8 GB [02:05] i.e. with 1G memory you can run 6 clients [02:06] and indeed the clients need no HD [02:06] hm, this LTSP thinkg sounds dificult.. :) [02:06] he was looking at Xubuntu and adding Edu apps, but his life would be some much easier with an Edubuntu LTSP install ? [02:06] *so much [02:06] it isnt ... edubuntu sets it up for you on install (at oleast in edgy, which will release in 3 weeks) [02:08] sirex: I'll find you a link ... you can read it up for yourself ... it is easy to install and use, much easier than maintainnig a "custom xubuntu" install ! [02:08] right, the big advantage is that everything you have to maintain is the server ... all user sessions run there [02:08] ogra, do you mean that on edgy edubuntu alsow comes with witch xfce? [02:08] so /home and userdata is in a central place ... [02:08] as well as all maintenance [02:08] nope ... we didnt have the space on the CD for xfce [02:08] we'll tra to target that for edgy+1 [02:09] there is a spec thats approved, but the space constraints kept us from implementing it yet [02:10] hm, so then for LTSP I will need an server with at least 256Mb of ram and big hdd, and all I need is to set up one server? [02:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWiring [02:11] sirex, right, then rip out the HDs from the clients and make them netboot ... [02:11] thats all [02:11] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation <- start here [02:11] ogra one LTSP server can handle only 6 clients? [02:11] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook <- then here [02:12] sirex, the ltsp server needs 256M to run the server processes and 128M for every running client ... so with 1G main memory you can run 6 clients [02:13] with 2G you can run 14 ... etc etc [02:13] since the clients share stuff in ram on the server i guess even 20 would be possible with 2G [02:13] and detail is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/ThinClient [02:14] the clients themselves can be very low spec ... [02:14] CPU: 233 MHz / RAM: 64 MB would totally suffice here ... [02:15] (and no HD) [02:17] Now I undertood every thing.. :) Well its realy nice thing! [02:17] :) [02:19] Sirex ... it is way easier to sort out your one big box, and stick with Edubuntu, than build a custom install. You will then be welcome in the Edubuntu community with a standard install each release - 80% of our Education focus is around Edubuntu. [02:19] ( Xubuntu is not a big focus for us we have far more LTSP users in Education ) === highvoltage uses Xubuntu in schools :) === ogra goes back to his bank holiday ... since he's not supposed to be here at all today and GF starts throwing evil looks [02:23] so, mr highvoltage, whaich is easier for a newish user to install and maintain (and get support): xubuntu + manual install of edu applications, or a standard edubuntu LTSP ? === RichEd wishes ogra some good time off :) [02:24] RichEd: about equally. edubuntu takes about 10 minutes faster to install, probably. Xubuntu is faster on the actual network, though. [02:24] RichEd: the installation of the edu stuff is just an apt-get install away :) === RichEd defers to expert opinion ... and asks higvoltage to answer the original user question as follwos: [02:25] So I want to know is there a way, that I could get all educational packages [02:25] from Edubuntu in one place as .deb files? [02:25] Then I be able to do this: [02:25] % cd edubuntu_debs [02:25] % sudo dpkg -i *.deb [02:27] RichEd: sorry, I didn't see your original question :) [02:27] RichEd: yes, you can do that [02:28] RichEd: except it should be sudo dpkg -i *.deb if your shell prompt ends with a % ;) [02:28] highvoltage: [1] it was in the mail ;) [2] where does he find the files (archive) [02:28] RichEd: [1] what was the subject of the mail? I don't think I got it. [02:29] I will forward on ... it was a one-to-one request from IRC interaction because I was in a meeting and the channel was quiet. [02:29] [2] the simplest way is to install all the things you want on a clean system and then find the files in /var/cache/apt/archives [02:30] I'll mail it to the user and CC the mail lsit, so that all can benefit from your wisdom in one sweet answer ! [02:30] aah, I understand :) [02:30] I thoght you were refering to an e-mail you sent to me! [02:32] I thought bout it too, that it is probably esiest way to install all packages through apt-get and then tar -czf it from /var/cache/apt/archives [02:34] But NTLS way is better.. :) [02:34] NTLS? [02:36] LTSP [02:36] :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [02:37] b b bd b b bb [02:37] hi bddebian [02:38] Heya highvoltage :-) [02:39] :-) === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [02:41] willvdl: wb [02:50] woot [02:50] wwop [02:51] do you know how to get firefox 1.5.0.5 language packs? [02:51] translate.org.za haS 1.5.0.7 packs for sepedi [02:51] "apt-cache search firefox | grep language" will show you a list [02:52] oh translate.org.za packs... hmmm... I'm not sure you currently get them for Ubuntu [02:53] they have xpi files for firefox [02:53] on their website [02:54] but our firefox version is .0.5 ... === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl_ [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [02:57] one bar on my 3g card... [02:58] hey willvdl [02:58] any news on MV yet? [03:00] hey CharlieBravoXylophonethirtythree [03:01] any news on the ICT Chairpersonship yet ? [03:02] not yet === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd -> collection 30-45 mins === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [03:52] ogra: ping [03:54] Is there any other way to specify the screen res on the clients other then specifying the horizontal and vertical sync rates? [04:06] biab === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd brb - reboot ... dead mouse [04:19] quit === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:24] Morning all === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-164-179.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === DeMoNSeEd [n=DeMoNSeE@bas1-sherbrooke40-1177557023.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:43] hi DeMoNSeEd [04:43] ty === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEE3BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [05:35] ping RichEd [05:37] hi willvdl [05:37] seven kinds of busy here prepping for internal launch [05:38] HPX you mean inside HP ? [05:38] or NEPAD ? [05:38] HP === lguerra [i=lguerra@200.21.93.195] has joined #edubuntu [05:57] RichEd: ping [05:59] pong lguerra [06:20] RichEd, i have to run out for a bit, i'll bbl === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [06:26] morning Edubuntu people [06:26] morning LaserJock [06:28] morning LaserJock and Burgwork [06:28] anyone know of a cgi:irc server that will get to #edubuntu? [06:32] RichEd: still up? [06:34] hi LaserJock :) [06:34] hi all otehr people active at 2 am :) [06:34] 9:30 am here ;-) [06:35] :P [06:35] 2am+beer=win [06:37] Kamping_Kaiser: 18:37 here :) [06:38] highvoltage, 02:08 here :) [06:38] gah, wish it was 1800 here - it would mean i hadnt wasted another 6 hours of my life ;) === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [06:41] heh :) [06:41] w00t [06:42] :) [06:45] hi cbx33 [06:46] LaserJock, dude !! [06:46] LaserJock, my new sound card came [06:46] nice? [06:46] w0h yeh [06:46] taken soem pics for the blog [06:46] just trying to get it working with jack [06:50] jack can be confusing to setup at times [06:50] and it's done [06:50] :) [06:51] I've played with it a few times [06:51] I was setting the channel count [06:51] cool [06:51] to get it to work with my old card [06:51] however with this stonking new card I dont need to [06:51] Which card? [06:51] an M-Audio Delta 1010 LT [06:51] nice [06:51] 10 in 10 out yeh it's nice ;) [06:52] I have always like Turtle Beach cards, but they just don't have many jacks [06:53] well someone funded me this card [06:53] are you doing audio editing or studio recording or something? [06:53] and I am so totally stoked [06:53] Petaris, I'm doing the startup sounds for edgy [06:53] and you need a card like that? [06:53] haha [06:54] What software are you going to use? 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