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LeeJunFan!java12:10
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:10
LeeJunFanubotu: tell LeeJunFan about !glx12:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about !glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:11
LeeJunFancolinguist: what kind of graphics card do you have?12:11
colinguistATI Radeon 960012:12
colinguistand I've just installed fglrx12:12
colinguistI'm trying disabling composite in xorg.conf12:13
colinguistLet's see what that breaks :p12:13
LeeJunFancolinguist: no - you need to do that.12:14
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colinguistAlright, the error is gone12:14
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colinguistFor some reason, glxgears runs fine for around 5 seconds, then slows to a crawl12:15
Authorityok, seriously, how does one install mplayer on kubuntu?  none of the howtos on the web actually work.12:15
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draikanyone here know of any dance channels?12:16
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draikSpecifically dancing salsa12:16
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hyperLeeJunFan: multiverse is enabled but apt-cache search java5 returns nothing12:16
cl187!wireless12:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:16
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LeeJunFan!info sun-java5-jre12:17
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB12:17
LeeJunFanhyper: what version of kubuntu are you running?12:18
hyperedgy12:18
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LeeJunFanhyper: me too.12:19
gnomefreakit installs -jre and -bin among other ones12:19
hyperLeeJun: java-gcj-compat-plugin --> that works12:19
gnomefreakick12:19
LeeJunFanhyper: I see about 10 packages that match java5 when I apt search12:19
gnomefreakLeeJunFan: search java theres even more12:20
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LeeJunFanhyper: I don't know why it wouldn't be there for you, are you sure you have enabled the proper multiverse lines? not the source, updates or backports?12:21
hyperLeeJun: http://www.phpfi.com/15961012:21
hyperLeeJun: Oh, it's the backports ^^12:22
LeeJunFanhyper: yep.12:22
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=== hyper is still confused about all those sources
LeeJunFanhyper just add multiverse to lines 16 and 1712:23
hyperLeeJun: Did so already and fetching 30MB of archives now12:24
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hyperif I could get my bt headset to work and if skype would support also video I'd be happy :)12:25
cl187odd, my card sees networks, but wont connect to them12:25
cl187was working, but kept faiding every few min12:26
cl187now it wont work at all12:26
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shardzI'm trying to boot the kubuntu installer, I checked the disk for errors, and I found none, but the CD just hangs after the progress bar reaches the end.12:27
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zuuscan anybody help me with fglrx issues??12:27
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shardzIs it a one-cd problem? Or do I need to do something?12:28
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LeeJunFanzuus: what fglrx problem?12:28
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LeeJunFanshardz: how did you check for errors?12:29
zuusfglrxinfo returns mesa as the driver and dri fails to load12:29
LeeJunFanshardz: with md5sum?12:29
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shardzLeeJunFan: with md5sum before burning, and the on-CD util12:29
markcis it possible to use nvidia drivers with edgy yet ?12:29
LeeJunFanzuus: how did you install fglrx?12:29
shardzstartx complains about "no matching device section" and VESA(0) Cannot read V_BIOS12:30
okhello.i haveproble with Adept...i want to download "ndiswrapper" but tell:    BREAK INSTALL why? :-(12:30
zuusfrom the wiki12:30
zuusbut when I tried sudo module-assistant it said it was an unrecognized command12:30
shardzLeeJunFan: it's the AMD64 version, if that would matter, I dont know how long Kubuntu has been doing 64bit12:31
colinguistHmmm... DVD playback is really choppy12:31
colinguistI've done the DMA thing, and downloaded the CSS libs12:32
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LeeJunFanshardz: hrm, I dunno. 64 bit shouldn't matter. Maybe doing text install or using alternate CD would work better.12:33
shardzand what's the root password?12:33
shardzfor the liveCD12:33
LeeJunFanshardz: there isn't one.12:33
LeeJunFanshardz: just do sudo -s12:33
shardzLeeJunFan: so how do you su?12:33
shardzok12:33
LeeJunFanor sudo -i12:33
LeeJunFanzuus: you installed the xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted modules?12:34
main2when i start tightvncserver with sudo, i still see a access denied error in my log file (it wont open the desktop) access to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Access Denied12:34
main2am i overlooking something, or what am i doing wrong? :)12:34
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LeeJunFanzuus: could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?12:35
shardzLeeJunFan: I'm gonna try to copy my old xorg.conf12:35
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zuussure12:37
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shardzLeeJunFan: for the record, it works12:37
zuuswhats pastebin?12:39
LeeJunFanshardz: good job :)12:39
LeeJunFan!pastebin12:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:39
shardzzuus: emerge nopaste12:39
shardzfuck sorry12:39
shardzI'm dual booting Gentoo.. heh12:39
shardzzuus: ignore me12:39
hyperLeeJun: when I put a star/stop/restart script into /etc/init.d, how can I make it start from boot?12:39
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LeeJunFanzuus: you want to open a console and 'kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' copy the entire contents and paste it on pastebin.12:40
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LeeJunFanhyper: take a look at /etc/rc2.d directory, there you will find links to the (S)tart and (K)ill scripts in /etc/init.d12:40
zuusk12:41
zuusdone12:41
LeeJunFanhyper: the S01, S05, etc... corresponds to the order in which they start up. so just go to /etc/rc2.d and ln -s ../init.d/[yourscript]  S80yourscript - or whatever.12:41
LeeJunFanzuus: normally you would want to post the link back here for the person helping you.12:42
zuusah12:42
zuushttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25530/plain/12:42
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SlynderdaleHmm, how does one install the make/compile options in ubuntu?12:43
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hyperLeeJun: thx12:43
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josh_my drive is full lmao12:44
zuusany suggestions?12:44
LeeJunFanzuus: well, xorg config looks good from what I can tell there. It's either loading the wrong driver or the wrong lib, if it's loading the wrong driver it will fall back to MESA.12:44
josh_my 160 gig is being rma'd12:44
josh_so i'm on 2.4 gigs12:44
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josh_is there any way to clean up files?12:44
josh_like deleting packages you dont need12:44
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zuusive tried installing the drivers several times, and with clean (k)ubuntu installs12:45
zuuscurrently i am using 8.24 because of my graphics card12:45
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zuusI think the problem lies with dri12:46
zuusbut I dont know how to fix it12:46
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colinguistexit12:47
colinguistGah, sorry12:47
colinguistIRC != Terminal :po12:47
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hyperg'night everyone12:48
[-KaSatKa-] I have a computer with windows xp that is sharing a dvd drive, and I'm trying to install something from dvd, but it needs to be mounted, how can I mount a network drive?12:48
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hyperLeeJun: thx for the help12:48
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LeeJunFanzuus: try this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25531/12:49
TumainiHere's a probably quite easy question for you: how do you become root, so you can change files in folders belonging to root?12:49
LeeJunFanzuus: it's helped me in the past when dri was loading wrong modules.12:49
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[-KaSatKa-] I have a computer with windows xp that is sharing a dvd drive, and I'm trying to install something from dvd, but it needs to be mounted, how can I mount a network drive?12:50
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macconlinehi, who use k3b? i have a question.... insert disc 8x, the soft tell mevelocity 8.2x, but are recording at 1.2x... why??12:50
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cpk2macconline: buffer problems probably12:51
TumainiDoes anyone know how to become root?12:51
BonBonTheJonuse sudo12:51
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BonBonTheJonsudo command12:51
zuusare the export commands supposed to return anything?12:51
TumainiHow do I do that outside the terminal?12:51
macconlinecpk2... but that is configurity?12:52
BonBonTheJonin kubuntu, use the run menu item, then use kdesu command12:52
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TumainiI just write kdesu? Thanks!12:52
SlynderdaleHmm, from what I gather, GCC compiling and the make command isn't shipped with Ubuntu, how does one go about installig it?12:52
cpk2Slynderdale: apt-get build-essentials12:53
BonBonTheJonTumaini, type in kdesu before the command you want, it will then ask you for your password12:53
SlynderdaleThanks12:53
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TumainiOh. I don't know what the command is. I want to create a text file in a certain folder, and put text in it and save it. Can I not become root outside the terminal?12:54
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Slynderdalecpk2: E: Couldn't find package build-essentials12:54
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BonBonTheJonTumaini, try kdesu kate12:54
cpk2macconline: not really sure but it is probably saving you from having a bad burn by preventing buffer under/over run by going slower12:54
BonBonTheJonthen you can save as root anywhere12:54
cpk2!info build-essential12:54
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB12:54
TumainiAh, thanks! Of course!12:54
cpk2its build essential =P12:54
BonBonTheJonno problem12:54
cpk2with a hyphen12:54
Slynderdalecpk2: With or without? I tried with the hyphen, heres the command I used sudo apt-get install build-essentials12:55
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cpk2Slynderdale: its build-essential i made a typo =)12:56
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Slynderdalecpk2: That worked, thanks :)12:56
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couquinouxt'es sur?12:57
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macconlinecpk2: but in xp work fine, so, any idea?? tks12:59
josh_i want to access the c drive through samba on my windows machine01:00
josh_but its asking for a password01:00
josh_i dont recall ever putting a password01:01
josh_is there a default username and pass or something?01:01
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BonBonTheJonjosh: you need to add a samba user01:12
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TumainiIs anyone here good with hotway?01:32
TumainiI just can't seem to get it to work. It keeps telling me 'localhost' refused connection.01:33
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kutanHello people01:37
otaku-san!pastebin01:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:38
otaku-sankutan: Hello, do you have a question?01:39
kutanI do01:39
kutanI'm trying to install XMMS01:39
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cpl-tnt44can some 1 please tell me what is the command for exsample to insert windows xp driver (for wireless pcmcia card ) with ndiswrapper ?01:39
kutanand when I run configure, it gives me the error that I don't have glib installed.01:40
kutanbut I just installed the latest version01:40
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kutanwhat's up with that?01:41
gameman73Im getting poor performance with xgl, what should i check?01:41
otaku-sankutan: ohhh....actually having troubles simaliar to that....01:41
gameman73ATI vid card, 90% sure im running their drivers (never used an ati vid card under linux)01:41
otaku-sankutan: so I may not be the one to answer that...try later...most of the gurus of the forum get on later01:42
kutanMaybe I'll try #ubuntu.. I'm sure there's someone different on there that might know.01:42
otaku-sanyes01:42
otaku-santhat is a great idea01:42
otaku-sanI think I'll try my prob there too....01:43
mluser-workHello everyone.. I'm having a problem with kpersonalizer.  Everytime I start kde it comes up, even if I go through and set things up with it or if I simply skip the wizard.  Is there a file I can touch that will keep this thing from comming up everytime I log in?01:43
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M4X1MUMguys how do i reformat a partition? which software to use?01:43
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joschamkfs.*01:44
otaku-sanmluser-work: I have problems with this sometimes with other programs...try checking in the kicker for the little icon that comes up telling it on...I think kperson does that01:44
shardzBefore install, do I need to configure repo's? And if so, what is the command?01:44
joscha@ M4X1MUM01:44
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M4X1MUMdo i type that in the terminal or what?01:45
joschamkfs.ext3 for ext3, mkfs.raiser for raiserfs,....01:45
otaku-sanmluser-work: if it's up when you shut down the box...it'll come up everytime you start up...actually I set up Amarok and The Gimp to do that01:45
cpl-tnt44Card: D-Link Airplus DWL 650+01:45
cpl-tnt44Chipset: ACX10001:45
cpl-tnt44pciid: 104c:840001:45
joschamkfs.ext3 /dev/hda2 for example01:45
cpl-tnt44can some 1 plz help me installing this card ?01:45
joschaformats hda2 with ext301:45
gameman73cpl-tnt44: is that an atheros chipset card?01:45
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M4X1MUMis there any gui version?01:45
gameman73qtparted01:45
gameman73maybe01:45
gameman73im sure it formats01:46
cpk2qtparted however doesnt seem to work with sata =\01:46
cpk2cfdisk is ncurses01:46
cpk2but doesnt format01:46
M4X1MUMaah im using sata2 at the moment01:46
pbergeri have a DWL 510 running...01:46
mluser-workotaku-san: thanks.. I'll check into it01:46
cpk2just makes a partition01:46
pbergermaybe it helps you?01:46
otaku-sanmluser-work: no prob01:46
M4X1MUMnah i have a partition with NTFS, i want to convert it to ext301:46
cpk2M4X1MUM: you could try using qtparted but when i tried it with my sata drive the app would crash01:47
M4X1MUMsince some people says its not recomended to write to NTFS format? such as for bittorrent01:47
cpk2M4X1MUM: if qtparted works that will be super easy01:47
Kr4t05M4X1MUM: Do you have data on that partition?01:48
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M4X1MUMnope its empty, i already backup all the data to prepare for the reformat01:48
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SlynderdaleHow do you tell what version of KDE you have?01:48
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MotorCityMadManSlynderdale: help/about01:49
MotorCityMadMan3.5.4 newest01:50
cpk2M4X1MUM: have you tried qtparted yet?01:50
M4X1MUMcommand not found01:51
cpk2M4X1MUM: apt-get it01:51
SlynderdaleMotorCityMadMan: How do you get the newest version under Kubuntu?01:51
cpl-tnt44how can i know what version is my ndiswrapper ? what is the command ? plz some 101:51
M4X1MUMok01:51
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MotorCityMadManSlynderdale: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.4.php01:52
otaku-sankutan: not having luck?01:52
kutanNope, I just gave up and installed it through the Adept package manager. :P01:53
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MotorCityMadMancpl-tnt44: did you install ndiswrapper ?01:53
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cpl-tnt44yeap01:53
cpl-tnt44some 1 from here gave me the command...01:53
cpl-tnt44the problem its doing some errors01:53
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cpl-tnt44and in the guide it says maybe reinstalling will be better01:54
M4X1MUMaaah i think ill try with the mkfs, now i know the harddisk mount thingy01:54
otaku-sankutan: hahaha sorry...ya I saw...it's always best to do that first...then fall back on compiling....01:54
cpl-tnt44so i wanna know what version i have ...01:54
Kr4t05"We don't agitate the dots."01:54
cpk2cpl-tnt44: you can apt-get ndiswrapper, it will give you the newest package on the repo01:54
M4X1MUMbut can i rename it? /media/sda8 to say /media/Archive??01:54
MotorCityMadMancpl-tnt44:open ndiswrapper | go to help tab/about01:55
otaku-sanwell try to find a deb package first...then try a gzip, bzip...and then binary01:55
Kr4t05M401:55
cpl-tnt44MotorCityMadMan :  how do i open it ? ( i always used console ...)01:55
Kr4t05M4X1MUM: change your /etc/fstab file01:55
otaku-sankutan: I mean after you checked adept01:55
Nikola-rsToday I asked here for a way to fix grub after windows 'fixmbr' command, and someone gave me one verry useful link...  but I lost it :(01:55
kutanyeah01:55
kutanI understand01:55
Nikola-rscan someone find it ?01:55
Kr4t05Or, create a symbolic link. ;)01:55
cpl-tnt44MotorCityMadMan : u know what maybe im doing something wronge from the begginning lets restart that shit...01:56
M4X1MUMtheres nothing in that directory01:56
cpk2cpl-tnt44: did you get the windows driver already?01:56
M4X1MUMooh oops its a file, didn't read properly01:56
alan42#linuxquestions01:56
cpl-tnt44MotorCityMadMan : can u recommand me of the best way installing a wireless pcmcia card all i have is the windows xp drivers for it...01:56
cpl-tnt44YES01:56
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cpk2cpl-tnt44: .inf?01:57
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SlynderdaleHmm, is there a 'deb' command in kubuntu?01:57
cpl-tnt44yeap airplus.inf01:57
otaku-san!language01:57
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:57
cpl-tnt44D-Link Airplus DWL 650+ ,Chipset: ACX10001:57
cpl-tnt44i need the ndis right ?01:57
otaku-sanM4X1MUM: A bit late but watch the cussing01:57
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otaku-sanahhhh wrong person01:58
M4X1MUM> /media/sda8 is not a block special device.   what is that mean? should i just proceed formatting it?01:58
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M4X1MUMhahaha01:58
otaku-sansorry M4X1MUM01:58
cpk2cpl-tnt44: did you get a .sys file?01:58
cpl-tnt44cpk2 : yes01:58
cpl-tnt44inf sys and bin01:59
cpl-tnt44all on my desktop ...01:59
cpl-tnt44now what ?01:59
otaku-sanSlynderdale: Yo!01:59
cpl-tnt44i open the terminal and ?01:59
cpk2cpl-tnt44: and you did ndiswrapper -i/dir/to/.inf01:59
cpl-tnt44yes ... and it failed ..01:59
pbergercpl-tnt44: i think so01:59
cpk2cpl-tnt44: how?01:59
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M4X1MUMaaaah cannot work :(02:00
Slynderdaleotaku-san: Thanks again for your help the other day, that IFS EXT2 thing worked like a charm. ANyways, how are you tday?02:00
cpl-tnt44cpk2 , just a sec let me retype it i will tell what it wrote ...02:00
M4X1MUMsudo mkfs.ext3 /media/sda8  <-- give me error when trying to reformat02:00
cpk2cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper --version might tell you a version number02:00
cpk2M4X1MUM: did you unmount it?02:00
cpl-tnt44cp2k , btw what is the desktop dir ?02:00
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M4X1MUMooh not yet02:01
M4X1MUMhow to unmount?02:01
cpl-tnt44home\desktop\ ?02:01
cpk2cpl-tnt44: probably /home/cp-tnt44/desktop02:01
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otaku-sanSlynderdale: Wow!  Awesome...man.  It is very nice, eh?  I am doing pretty well....having probs still with compiling...*backhands box* hehehe02:02
cpk2desktop is Desktop acutally02:02
cpl-tnt44mmm second letme chk i dont think the cpl-tnt44 exsist ...02:02
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otaku-sanSlynderdale: how are you?02:02
cpk2cpl-tnt44: whatever user you are logged in as ><02:02
cpl-tnt44the command again ? ndiswrapper -i dir/*..inf ?02:02
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cpl-tnt44ok02:02
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M4X1MUMhow to unmount the hd?02:03
cpk2umount02:03
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cpl-tnt44he writes me back unable to cr8 directory .. make sure u r running as root02:04
cpl-tnt44cpk2 ...02:04
cpl-tnt44^^^02:04
M4X1MUMstill give me same error :(02:04
cpk2cpl-tnt44: i would put the files in their own directory in your home folder02:04
Slynderdaleotaku-san: I'm doing well, though just a bit tired from work. CUrrently I'm trying to figure out how to updae KDE on Kubuntu. *Is still a linux newbie*02:04
M4X1MUMI get this error > mkfs.ext3: Device size reported to be zero....02:05
cpl-tnt44cpk2 sec...02:05
otaku-sanSlynderdale: update????  What version are you...your not trying for version 4?02:05
cpl-tnt44cpk2 : what files ? inf sys and bin ?02:05
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cpk2cpl-tnt44: yeah, dunno if you need the bin but i guess it wont hurt02:05
cpk2M4X1MUM: unmount the hard drive then run cfdisk first02:06
cpl-tnt44i have like 4 bins here how would i know which one ?02:06
cpk2.sys and .inf are the important ones02:06
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Slynderdaleotaku-san: I have 3.5.2 and wanted to update to the latests table KDE version, which is 3.5.402:06
M4X1MUMi get error too :( it says its read only02:06
cpk2M4X1MUM: check mount to make sure it isnt mounted02:06
cpl-tnt44cpk2 ok thanks , give me sec ..02:07
otaku-sanSlynderdale: try adept02:07
M4X1MUMdamn i got to go, i'll be back!!! in about 8-10 hours!!02:08
cpk2Slynderdale: did you add the repo from the kubuntu site to upgrade?02:08
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otaku-sanSlynderdale: hehehe not many gurus on right now....cpk2 knows his stuff...and there he is02:08
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fatejudgeris there really a difference between dist-upgrading to edgy vs install the fresh iso?02:08
cpk2psh I am *not* a "guru"02:08
cpl-tnt44cpk2 : i cant paste it to home directory ...02:09
cpl-tnt44maybe on the root ?02:09
cpk2cpl-tnt44: why not?02:09
cpl-tnt44dunno !02:09
cpk2cpl-tnt44: no you do not need root to do it02:09
cpl-tnt44ok02:09
Slynderdalecpk2: Which repository?02:09
otaku-sancpk2: more than I am...by a long shot..so your...higher edumacated......hehehe doesn't it come with the repos already02:09
Ash-FoxAnybody know of a alternative to XMPlay, I can't find a single mod player that can play multi-track XM files properly.02:09
cpk2cpl-tnt44: are you logged in as the user whose /home you are trying to move the files to?02:09
cpk2Slynderdale: one second let me get it02:10
otaku-sanSlynderdale: hold on...let me get the path02:10
otaku-sanor cpk2 can get it....I have to do a bit of searching...found the gpg keyys02:11
cpl-tnt44yes02:11
otaku-sankeys*02:11
cpk2Slynderdale: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php02:11
cpl-tnt44ok i can copy the files to : /home/idan(the user )02:11
cpl-tnt44but cant put them on \home02:12
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cpk2i think sourceomatic has the repo for it as well02:12
cpk2cpl-tnt44: when we say /home we mean the users /home dir which would be /home/idan for you02:12
cpl-tnt44cpk2 : ok i got it now ...02:12
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MotorCityMadManSlynderdale: didn't i just give you that url ?02:13
cpl-tnt44now i have 2 files : airplus.inf and airplus.sys ....02:13
cpl-tnt44good...02:13
cpl-tnt44in home/idan02:13
cpl-tnt44now what is the command again ?02:13
cpk2cpl-tnt44: put them in /home/idan/wirelesscard or somesuch02:13
cpl-tnt44ok02:14
cpk2cleanliness is very helpful02:14
cpl-tnt44they /home/idan/wire02:14
cpk2you want want a kajillion files floating around in your home dir02:14
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pbergercpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper -i airplus.inf02:14
cpk2wont want*02:14
Slynderdalecpk2: SO basicly add that and use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?02:14
MotorCityMadMankajillion <-- how much is that ?02:15
cpk2Slynderdale: dont even think you need to dist upgrade to update kde02:15
cpk2MotorCityMadMan: aprox. 5 x 33!02:15
cpk2=D02:15
Slynderdalehttp://www.tilansia.com/sizechart.html02:16
cpl-tnt44cpk2 : listen to this .02:16
otaku-san.....speaking of floating files and kajillion....I think I need to nuke some files02:16
cpl-tnt44command : ndiswrapper -i home\idan\wire\airplus.inf02:16
cpl-tnt44installinf homeidanwireairplus02:17
cpk2i hope you didnt do forwardslashes02:17
cpk2err DID do02:17
MotorCityMadMancpl-tnt44: --> / this way02:17
otaku-sanya make sure to back slash02:17
cpk2I am making some bad typos today02:17
cpl-tnt44unable to create directory /etc/ndiswrapper/homeidanwireairplus.Make sure you are running as root02:17
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cpl-tnt44ok back slashes ?02:18
otaku-sanwho is this Johnathan Riddle....his keys are everywhere!02:18
otaku-sanyes02:18
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cpk2hmm yeah i guess ndiswrapper does need root02:18
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cpl-tnt44can u put down the right command for it plz ... im kinda new although i think i know ..02:18
cpl-tnt44what is this root ?02:18
ubuntunewbie<----- how can i access my harddrive's file using a kubuntu livecd02:18
MotorCityMadManthink of root as low drag02:19
cpk2sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/idan/iputwireless/here.inf02:19
cpk2cpl-tnt44: root is the master of th universe02:19
MotorCityMadManor under the hood02:19
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cpl-tnt44how do i ok now i get couldn't copy /home/idan/wire/airplus.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 13502:20
cpl-tnt44cpk2 ... u got the error ?02:20
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otaku-sanSlynderdale: ok put the sourcelist on (/etc/apt/sources.list) you'll need to open up kate(or other text editor) in root so type kdesu kate in konsole02:20
ubuntui cant mount my harddrive on livecd.... mount: can't find /dev/hda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:21
cpk2thats an odd error02:21
cpl-tnt44that what it did b4 ...02:21
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cpl-tnt44thats the error i was trying to post here02:21
cpk2what does ndiswrapper -l give you?02:21
otaku-sanSlynderdale: then open the sources.list file in the rooted kate...at the bottom put the whole source...02:21
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cpl-tnt44installed ndis drivers : airplus invalid driver!02:22
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cpl-tnt44and driverswinxpairplus invalid driver02:22
cpk2so maybe thats way it isnt installing =P02:23
cpl-tnt44maybe ...02:23
cpl-tnt44but still .. doesnt sounds good ...02:23
cpl-tnt44now what ?02:23
cpl-tnt44lets try the next step ?02:23
kutanCan anyone tell me why su won't work?02:24
otaku-sancuz su is debian02:24
otaku-sansudo is ubuntu kubuntu02:24
cpk2su DOES work02:24
otaku-sanit does?!?!?!!02:24
cpl-tnt44cpk2 u with me ?02:24
cpk2but you would need to set it up for02:24
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kutanI mean when I use the password it says it's a bad pass02:24
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otaku-sanjust do sudo...02:24
kutanbut I know it's good02:24
cpk2kutan: obviously its not good =)02:25
cpl-tnt44what's sudo btw ?02:25
MotorCityMadMankdesu02:25
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cpl-tnt44i mean whats that command means ?02:25
cpk2and the rule of thumb is if you cant figure it out then you really shouldnt be told =P02:25
cpk2cpl-tnt44: sudo does the command as root02:25
cpl-tnt44oh ! ok !02:25
cpl-tnt44now all comes together...02:25
pbergercpl-tnt44: sudo = super user do02:25
cpl-tnt44cpk2 thanks..02:25
otaku-sanahhh now he you know02:25
cpl-tnt44btw what is the next step ?02:26
cpl-tnt44in installing that driver ?02:26
otaku-sanhe knows....you know...whats the diff....darn typo02:26
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cpk2cpl-tnt44: sudo ndiswrapper -e nameofdriverinstalled02:26
cpk2that will remove them02:26
oggb4mp3Riddell: ping02:26
cpl-tnt44btw im working ubuntu not kubuntu .. no diff right ?02:26
paddy2kdoes anyone know why a simple su command returns "Authentication Failure"?02:26
cpk2kubuntu is ubuntu02:26
otaku-sancpl-tnt44: not really...different apps here and there...but same thing02:27
otaku-san....cpk2 puts it in 3 words02:27
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kutancpk2, when I use the command passwd to change my root pass it says it changes to the one I specify, meaning I'm using the correct password.02:27
otaku-sancpk2: AHA you su theory is being proven wrong! ;)02:28
MotorCityMadManKDE su was developed for use with KDE02:28
otaku-sanpaddy2k: use sudo02:28
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kutanand there's a problem with using sudo for some reason..02:28
cpl-tnt44cpk2 ,remind me why we removing them ?02:28
kutanI mean a problem with using sudo and ./02:28
paddy2ki know I do, but I read some docs that said su can be used too. I was wondering why it failed, thats all02:28
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cpl-tnt44cpk2 , after all we wanna install them dont we ?02:28
angasule!scanner02:29
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners02:29
kutanI've used su before02:29
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otaku-sanhmmm must be a bug....maybe02:29
kutanbut there was an option someone told me to use which is the only way it worked02:29
cpk2cpl-tnt44: invalid driver that usually means you dont wan it02:29
kutanactually I think it may have been an option with sudo, lemme check02:29
cpk2i just logged in as root using su -02:30
cpk2i dont see what the problem is02:30
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otaku-sansu won't work with apt-get install!02:30
paddy2kotaku-san: then i better let them know there is a bug in the ship-it cd02:30
cpk2otaku-san: eh? really?02:30
pbergerpaddy2k: sudo su02:30
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MotorCityMadMankdesu --help02:30
kutanoooooh sudo su works02:31
otaku-sancpk2: it says Unknown id: apt-get02:31
cpl-tnt44cpk2 : so what do u suggest of doing now ?02:31
paddy2kpberger: thanks that works!02:31
kutanSecond'd02:31
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cpl-tnt44cpk2 , switch an pcmcia adapter ? bcz i have a spare one of a diffrent company02:31
cpk2otaku-san: you do su -?02:31
otaku-sandoesn't work for me....02:31
otaku-sancpk2: you mean su -02:32
cpk2otaku-san: yes02:32
otaku-sancpk2: do I put a space after the - ?02:32
otaku-sanor just su -apt-get02:32
cpk2cpl-tnt44: after you remove both those drivers (check by doing ndiwrapper -l) try to install the .inf again02:32
pbergerotaku-san: sudo apt-get02:33
cpk2otaku-san: su is used to login as root02:33
cpk2ie root@localhost02:33
paddy2ki know konsole is hardcore but "kdesu adept" does everything I could ever need, nearly02:33
cpk2cpl-tnt44: you should only have one .inf and one .sys in the folder02:33
cpl-tnt44cpk2 ok !02:33
GaiaX11cpk2: Do you want to install your wireless card? Is it?02:33
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otaku-sanpberger: Hahahaha, ya I know...We're just testing something02:34
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cpl-tnt44GaiaX11 . no his trying for myn which is getting to be quite annoying02:34
cpk2adept is nice if i am just looking for random things, otherwise it shows too much stuff02:34
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otaku-sancpk2: so I just put in su...then do what I want in root?02:34
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cpk2otaku-san: you probably want su -02:35
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: Trying for you?02:35
otaku-sancpk2: I did su - ....and it tells me Authentication Error02:35
otaku-sancpk2: OHHHH!!! sudo su - works02:35
pbergertoaku-san: and sudo su - does not work?02:35
cpk2otaku-san: then you havent set a root password02:35
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: I did not get02:35
pbergertoaku-san: ok, you got it02:36
otaku-sanhahah ya02:36
cpl-tnt44cpk2 : same error in line 135 !02:36
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otaku-san.......um how do I get out of root??????02:36
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cpl-tnt44invailed driver ..02:36
cpk2otaku-san: exit02:36
cpl-tnt44maybe it dont work ?02:36
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otaku-sancpk2: ahhhh...ok I thought you had to first un root then exit....I use exit all the time02:37
otaku-sanpaddy2k: hahahaha, how?02:37
cpk2cpl-tnt44: remove the driver and try putting the .bin in there, supposedly some drivers might need the .bin02:37
pbergercpl-tnt44: I had similar problems with my DWL-510 wireless. Some dirver versions work, others not.02:37
paddy2kroot just crashed into me02:37
pbergercpl-tnt44: use latest ndiswrapper (build from source)02:37
cpl-tnt44u mean : sudo ndiswrapper -i /dir/blabla.bin ?02:38
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pbergercpl-tnt44: and sometimes you have to edit the .inf-file02:38
cpl-tnt44pberger , now you talking ...02:38
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44 cpk2; What do you want guys?02:38
otaku-sanpaddy2k: root crashed into you????  Thats a bit impossible....02:38
cpk2cpl-tnt44: no, put the .bin in with the .inf and .sys however you might need to compile, just trying to prevent having to compile since its not very beginner friendly02:38
paddy2knot when root is falling off a table!02:39
cpl-tnt44GaiaX11 , i want to install a wireless pcmcia card D-link DWL-650+02:39
cpk2GaiaX11: cpl-tnt44 is trying to set up a pcmcia wireless card with ndiswrapper02:39
cpl-tnt44compile ?02:39
pbergercpl-tnt44: for me the ubuntu ndiswrapper did not work...02:39
GaiaX11cpk2: Alright!02:39
otaku-sanpaddy2k: I am so confused......do you mean a real life root? or what! ;)02:39
cpk2cpl-tnt44: dont worry compiling is the last option =)02:40
cpk2this is ubuntu after all, the point is to use packages!02:40
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paddy2kotaku-san: no, no trees were hurt in the making of this lame joke, nite02:40
cpl-tnt44cpk2 , ok now what ? put inside the Wire folder *.inf *.bin and *.sys ?02:41
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: Do you already have the headers installed?02:41
cpk2cpl-tnt44: yes02:41
cpl-tnt44headers ?02:41
otaku-sanpaddy2k: Hahaha, sorry I didn't catch it! Oh man...02:41
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: Your kernel headers02:41
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cpk2GaiaX11: we are hoping we dont need to compile ndiswrapper02:41
cpl-tnt44Gaia dunno wut u talking about...02:42
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: If you don't, it will not work at all02:42
cpl-tnt44cpk2 ? whats he talking about ?02:42
otaku-sanGaiaX11: your talking another language man....explain...this is a channel to help02:42
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otaku-sanshite...even I haven't grasped it all the way yet02:43
otaku-sansorry language02:43
cpl-tnt44i can see others are listening to this problem. ..02:43
cpl-tnt44we got an audience02:43
pbergercpl-tnt44: yes02:43
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: You have to install: ndiswrapper; kernel headers and have the .inf to do what you want02:43
cpl-tnt44ok Gaia lets try your way ...02:43
cpl-tnt44shot02:43
cpl-tnt44im in the terminal i have the drivers...02:44
pbergerok02:44
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pbergertype: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:44
cpl-tnt44sudo ndiswrapper showing no drivers installed... im clean02:44
cpl-tnt44pberger that meant for me ?02:45
pbergerwhat ndiswrapper version are you using?02:45
pbergeryes02:45
cpk2compiling != for newbies =\02:45
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: look in synaptic to see if your headers are installed02:45
pbergercpk2: it's not that difficult02:45
cpl-tnt44Gaia i go your way02:45
cpl-tnt44pberger just a sec ...02:45
cpl-tnt44sunaptic is where ?02:46
cpl-tnt44ok found it02:46
GaiaX11sudo synaptic &02:46
otaku-sancpk2: Once you get the basics down...how few there are...compilings not hard02:46
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cpl-tnt44System >> Admin>> Sypatic..02:46
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otaku-sancpk2: I'm no master...heck I still have probs but it always is a last resort02:47
cpl-tnt44Gaia u with me ?02:47
cpl-tnt44now i get 2 tables ...02:47
cpl-tnt44what package should i be looking for ?02:47
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: Yeah!02:47
cpl-tnt44?02:48
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: linux-kernel-headers for you kernel version02:48
cpl-tnt44ok im on it ...02:48
cpl-tnt44how can i know if its installed or not ?02:49
cpl-tnt44it doesnt marked "V"02:49
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: is the little box green?02:49
cpl-tnt44nope...02:49
cpl-tnt44if i mark it ... it asks me if i wanna mark it for installation ...02:50
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: So. You have to choose the right kernel version and install the right linux headers for you02:50
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cpl-tnt44ok ! f*** how do i know what is the right for me ?02:51
cpl-tnt44sound complicated...02:51
cpl-tnt44i thought i just mark it and click apply ? and it installs the package ..02:51
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cpl-tnt44gaia02:51
pbergercpl-tnt44: just type in the console: sudo apt-get build-essential ... then you get everything we will need...02:51
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cpl-tnt44gaia agree ?02:52
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: look and see what is your linux-image02:52
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cpl-tnt44ok gaia i got few green boxes...02:53
cpl-tnt44linux=image-38602:53
cpl-tnt44linux-image-2.6.15-27-38602:53
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cpl-tnt44linux-image-2.6.15-26-38602:53
cpl-tnt44alsa base02:53
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44:  The one the is running in your machine is the newest one02:53
cpl-tnt44so no problem ?02:54
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GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: xxx27xxx02:54
cpl-tnt44maybe we do what pberger told ? couldnt hurt ?02:54
shadowhywinddoes anyone have any ideas why wpa_supplicant would say my driver doesn't support WPA even though i know my driver does.. ?02:55
pbergershadowhywind: maybe another driver from ubuntu-standard is also loaded?02:55
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: So install the linux-kernel-headers02:56
cpl-tnt44gaia ok .. mark it and install02:56
pbergershadowhywind: for me, r8180 was loaded, so the ndiswrapper-driver did not work...02:56
shadowhywindpberger this only happens when i start wpa_supplicant with -Dndiswrapper02:56
otaku-sanI think I'm going to change to XFCE....anyone use this?02:56
pbergershadowhywind: call wpa_supplicant with -dd for mor debug-info02:57
GaiaX11pberger: I use a rt8180 and it works great for me :-)02:57
pbergerGaiaX11: with wpa?02:57
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GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: apt-get install ndiswrapper now02:57
pbergerGaiaX11: wpa never worked for me with the r8180-module, only with ndiswrapper02:58
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GaiaX11pberger: for me it works also with ndiswrapper02:58
cpl-tnt44gaiax11 ,just a second ... let it finish02:59
GaiaX11pberger: The other way I have not tried02:59
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pbergerGaiaX11: ubuntu loads r8180 automatically, i have to rmmod it02:59
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: Have you installed ndiswrapper from synaptic?02:59
cpl-tnt44nopw03:00
cpl-tnt44nope from the console03:00
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cpl-tnt44with a command , i think it was something like u wrote03:00
otaku-sanok I'm off to change to Xfce...see ya03:00
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cpl-tnt44restarting ubuntu , it did a system update from b4 ..03:00
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: apt-get install ndiswrapper is the same as doing it using synaptic03:00
cpl-tnt44oh ok !03:01
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: synaptic is the apt gui03:01
shadowhywindsomeone just suggested to me instaed of useing -Dndiswrapper to use -Dwext03:01
cpl-tnt44i see03:01
cpl-tnt44ok ubuntu is loading up ..03:01
cpl-tnt44just a sec ok03:01
pbergershadowhywind: i only use -Dwext03:01
cpl-tnt44omg ... p3 500mhz 64 mb of ram ...03:01
cpl-tnt44working like heaven this ubuntu ...03:01
shadowhywindbrb, going to go try that03:02
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: Have you?03:02
cpl-tnt44have i ?03:02
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: does ndiswrapper shows a green box in synaptic?03:02
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: have a look there03:02
cpl-tnt44i dunno , u want me to chk ? of first type the install in the consol ?03:02
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cpl-tnt44ok system is up ...03:03
cpl-tnt44now what ? check first or install ?03:03
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: check03:03
cpl-tnt44checking ...03:03
cpl-tnt44how does it call ? ndiswrapper ?03:03
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: yes03:04
cpl-tnt44ok03:04
cpl-tnt44ndiswrapper-utils 1.8-0ubuntu203:05
cpl-tnt44 ok ?03:05
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: yes03:05
cpl-tnt44gaia ?03:05
cpl-tnt44seems to be installed..03:05
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: do you have the the .inf file in a cd windows installer?03:06
cpl-tnt44gaia?03:06
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: It is a folder03:06
cpl-tnt44no03:06
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: in the cd03:06
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cpl-tnt44i dont have a cd - rom in this laptop ...03:06
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cpl-tnt44i downloaded from the internet...03:06
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cpl-tnt44i have the drivers for win 98 \2k\xp03:07
physicsnick*sigh*03:07
physicsnickproblem, my microphone isn't sensitive enough.03:07
cpl-tnt44btw is there's a shortcut key to the terminal ?03:07
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physicsnickunder kmix input tab, i see only three sliders, all labelled "capture"03:07
physicsnickthey all do nothing03:07
physicsnickno microphone boost03:08
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: do you have the folder with the inf file?03:08
physicsnickwhat am i doing wrong?03:08
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cpl-tnt44yes i do ! gaia03:08
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cpl-tnt44its under /home/idan/wire/____inf sys bins____ ok ?03:08
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GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: Are you sure that it is the right file for your card?03:08
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cpl-tnt44Yes ... i checked and downloaded from the vendor site03:09
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: have you tested it in, say, window$?03:09
shadowhywind_thanks for all the help all, solved my wireless problem03:09
cpl-tnt44Card: D-Link Airplus DWL 650+03:09
pbergershadowhywind: good to hear03:09
cpl-tnt44your welcome !03:10
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cpl-tnt44http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#D03:10
cpl-tnt44got it from here03:10
shadowhywind_all that it was that stupid -ndiswrapper bit03:10
cpl-tnt44glad to hear :)03:10
cpl-tnt44at least some 1 is happy03:10
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: So, now put the folder in /usr/local/bin for example03:10
physicsnick:(03:10
cpl-tnt44u mean it will look like this : /usr/local/bin/wire/*.* ?03:11
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: enter there and try ndiswrapper -i blablabla.inf03:11
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: it should say: drive present, hardware present03:12
cpl-tnt44i cant copy the files\folder to the usr\loca\bin ...03:12
cpl-tnt44im back in the terminal ...03:12
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: you can use sudo cp03:13
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cpl-tnt44im getting this line : installing airplus03:13
cpl-tnt44couldn't copy /home/idan/wire/airplus.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 13503:14
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper -l03:14
cpl-tnt44this is the ultimate error !03:14
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cpl-tnt44airplus invalid driver03:14
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GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: nothing?03:14
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cpl-tnt44airplus invalid driver03:15
cpl-tnt44airplus invalid driver!03:15
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cpl-tnt44it said it couldnt copy line 135 ... i guess the trick is in there03:15
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: I think that the driver is corrupted then03:15
pbergercpl-tnt44: did you use the win-xp driver?03:15
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cpl-tnt44yes03:16
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: You have to download the driver again03:16
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pbergercpl-tnt44: or use a newer version of ndiswrapper...03:16
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GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: the problem is in the driver. Because all tools are in your machine03:16
cpl-tnt44this is the newest ...03:16
cpl-tnt44ok ..03:16
cpl-tnt44maybe lets try a diffrent card vendor ...03:17
cpl-tnt44i have a netgear ma401 card as well ...03:17
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: someone else needs to use my machine. But you are going in the right way.03:17
cpl-tnt44lets see if the driver is fucked up or dunno what03:17
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper -i03:17
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper -l03:18
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cpl-tnt44i told u airplus invalid driver !03:18
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: modprobe ndiswrapper03:18
cpl-tnt44Fatal : error inserting ....03:18
cpl-tnt44operation not permitted03:19
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: after installing put the driver ndiswrapper in /etc/modules to load at boot time03:19
cpl-tnt44Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper.ko):Operation not permitted03:20
GaiaX11cpl-tnt44: I really have to go!03:20
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cpl-tnt44pberger u there ?03:20
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pbergercpl-tnt44: yes03:20
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cpl-tnt44can u continue from here ?03:21
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pbergercpl-tnt44: i think you should try and compile the ndiswrapper yourself03:21
pbergercpl-tnt44: its not that complicated...03:21
Bertohi - i'm looking for a KDE applet that will help me manage my network connections (to easily switch from wlan0 wireless to eth0 when i get plugged in)03:21
Bertoanything like that i can apt-get install?03:21
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cpl-tnt44pberger : ok shot...03:22
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cpl-tnt44i think the driver may be bad ...03:22
pbergercpl-tnt44: ok03:22
cpl-tnt44but ok ...03:22
cpl-tnt44remove the driver from ndiswrapper ?03:23
pbergercpl-tnt44: type in the console: sudo ndiswrapper -e nameofdriver03:23
pbergercpl-tnt44: exactly03:23
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cpl-tnt44ok done !03:24
cpl-tnt44go03:24
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pbergercpl-tnt44: now: sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper03:24
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cpl-tnt44strange...03:25
cpl-tnt44Couldn't find package ndiswrapper03:25
Bertoi use ndiswrapper... compiled from sourceforge sources because the one in my repository was so old03:25
Bertoafter i got 1.23 from sf.net it worked03:25
pbergercpl-tnt44: mybe: sudo apt-get remove ndis*03:25
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cpl-tnt44ok works !03:26
cpl-tnt44done03:26
cpl-tnt44i mean its removing as we speak ...03:26
cpl-tnt44but go ahead...03:26
pbergercpl-tnt: fine. now go to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/03:26
cpl-tnt44now what to find ?03:27
pbergercpl-tnt44: Downloads, Releases...03:27
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pbergeror: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/03:28
cpl-tnt44http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#D03:28
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pbergercpl-tnt44: nono03:28
cpl-tnt44it says i need ndiswrapped 1.103:28
pbergerwe use the latest..03:28
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cpl-tnt44Card: D-Link Airplus DWL 650+03:28
flavioribeirowhen i try to starts an video with mplayer shows this error: Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D5703:29
carlos_hi03:29
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flavioribeiroanyone knows what i need to do to make my video plays?03:29
pbergercpl-tnt44: go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/ and press download!03:29
carlos_hola03:29
cpl-tnt44ok03:29
cpl-tnt44done03:29
cpl-tnt44stable or testing ?03:30
pbergerstable03:30
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cpk2flavioribeiro: what video format?03:30
flavioribeirowmv03:30
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cpl-tnt44ok03:30
cpl-tnt44downloading03:30
cpk2did you get w32codecs?03:30
pbergergood.03:30
pbergersave it somewhre in your home-directory...03:30
flavioribeirocpk2 no, i need to emule 32 bits and i dont know how to do this03:30
cpl-tnt44done03:31
carlos_install automatix03:31
cpl-tnt44open ?03:31
cpk2do NOT install automatix03:31
pbergerfind it in the file-browser03:31
carlos_why not?03:31
pbergerand right-klick on it03:31
cpl-tnt44why not just press open ?03:31
pbergerwe have to extract all files...03:31
cpl-tnt44where do the firefox saves it by default ?03:32
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cpl-tnt44nm03:32
pbergeron the desktop...03:32
carlos_whats the matters whit automatix?03:32
cpl-tnt44extract to ?03:32
pbergera folder in your home-directroy03:32
cpl-tnt44ok done03:32
pbergerok03:32
pbergergo to the console then03:32
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pbergerand find the folder called ndiswrapper-...03:33
cpl-tnt44ok03:33
pbergercd into that folder03:33
cpk2automatix can cause problems03:33
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pbergerif you make ls you should now see some files and two folders03:34
pbergeris that right?03:34
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cpl-tnt44wait03:34
cpl-tnt44how do i see continent ?03:34
pbergerls03:35
cpl-tnt44ok03:35
pbergerls = dir03:35
pbergerok, to be sure we have everything we need:03:35
unix_infideluhh, no ls !=dir03:35
pbergertype: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:35
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cpl-tnt44ok03:35
pbergerthis installs the headers, compilers etc...03:36
pbergermay take a while...03:36
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cpl-tnt44mmm03:36
cpl-tnt44ok downloading ?03:36
pbergerok03:36
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cpl-tnt44just click YES03:36
cpl-tnt44?03:36
pbergerYes03:36
cpl-tnt44ok03:37
cpl-tnt44i see the folder with some files in it03:37
pbergerready?03:37
cpl-tnt44yes ...03:37
pbergerok. if you have to compile a programm yourself:03:37
pbergertake a look at a file called INSTALL.03:37
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pbergeryou can type: cat INSTALL03:38
DaSkreechIs there an app to stress test your machine?03:38
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pbergerwith cat you can see the content of a file...03:38
cpl-tnt44ahh no ... wait ... let it install the files...03:38
cpl-tnt44i thought u want to explain something03:38
pbergerok03:38
pbergeryes03:38
cpl-tnt44u know what keep explaining03:38
cpl-tnt44cat = edit ?03:38
pbergerkind of03:39
DaSkreechcpl-tnt44: No03:39
cpl-tnt44ok its done03:39
DaSkreechcat = view03:39
pbergeryou can only read, but not edit03:39
pbergerperfect03:39
cpl-tnt44oh ! ok03:39
cpl-tnt44so whats edit ?03:39
cpl-tnt44nano ?03:39
DaSkreechYup03:39
pbergerso cat is just if you want to read a file quick03:39
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pbergernano is also good...03:39
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cpl-tnt44ok were done ...03:40
pbergerIn the INSTALL-file there are informations about how to build and install03:40
pbergerusualle its a command like make03:40
cpl-tnt44ok03:40
pbergerhere they write:03:40
KDEfanboy!checkinstall03:40
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!03:40
pbergermake uninstall03:40
cpl-tnt44so do "cat install" ?03:40
DaSkreechI'll be kind and say nano works03:40
pbergeryes03:40
pbergercat INSTALL03:40
pbergeryou have to be case-sensitive in linux!03:41
cpl-tnt44ok !03:41
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cpl-tnt44got it03:41
pbergerif you scroll up, you can read the file03:41
pbergerso all we have to do now is: make uninstall03:41
pbergerthen: make03:41
pbergerso type: make uninstall03:42
cpl-tnt44why do we make uninstall ?03:42
pbergerto remove old versions (to be sure)03:42
pbergerafterwards: make03:42
cpl-tnt44ok i did ..03:42
cpl-tnt44btw it had some errors...03:42
DaSkreechIs there an app to stress test your machine?03:42
HawkwindWhy not make clean instead.  A bit better to do it that way03:42
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cpl-tnt44like permission denied ..03:43
pbergerwith make uninstall or with make?03:43
cpl-tnt44make uninstall03:43
pbergerok, then type: sudo make uninstall03:43
Hawkwindmake uninstall will fail because he probably did sudo make install so he will need to do sudo make uninstall03:43
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cpl-tnt44ok !03:43
cpl-tnt44worked like a charm03:43
cpl-tnt44now make ?03:43
pbergernow type: make03:43
pbergeryes03:44
cpl-tnt44sudo make ?03:44
cpl-tnt44or make ?03:44
pbergerthis will take a while with some output like  [CC]  ...text...03:44
pbergerno, without sudo!03:44
cpl-tnt44ok03:44
pbergeryou need sudo only for installing / editing system files etc.03:44
cpl-tnt44ok it says some error 1 and error 203:45
pbergerfor compiling its not needed...03:45
cpl-tnt44...03:45
cpl-tnt44ok03:45
cpl-tnt44i got it ...03:45
pbergeras long as ist runs a wihile its ok03:45
pbergerfinished?03:45
cpl-tnt44it finished after 2 seconds...03:45
cpl-tnt44not ok ?03:45
cpl-tnt44+slow comp03:45
pbergerlet me check03:45
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pbergerno, for me it takes a while03:46
cpl-tnt44ok ...03:46
cpl-tnt44here what it writes03:46
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cpl-tnt44can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules /2.6.15-27-386/build;03:46
cpl-tnt44give the path to kernel build directory with KBUILD=<path> argumant to make03:47
cpl-tnt44make[1]  *** [prereq_check] Error 103:47
pbergerok,03:47
cpl-tnt44leaving dir..../home/idan/ndis/driver03:47
cpl-tnt44ok03:47
cpl-tnt44...03:47
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cpl-tnt44wellz ?03:49
pbergerok03:49
pbergeryou need the headers, still...03:49
cpl-tnt44what headers ?03:49
cpl-tnt44in synaptic ?03:49
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pbergerok03:50
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pbergertype: uname -r03:50
pbergerwhat does it say?03:50
cpl-tnt442.6.15-27-38603:50
DaSkreechDamn zorglu is gone :(03:51
pbergerok, then type: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.16-27-38603:51
cpl-tnt44couldnt find package03:51
cpl-tnt44u sure its not 2.6.15 ?03:52
cpl-tnt44or that we already have ?03:52
pbergersorry. misstyping03:52
pbergersudo apt-get install linux-headers-2-6.15-27-386 of course03:52
cpl-tnt44ok 1 min03:53
cpl-tnt44downloading03:53
pbergeryes, this takes a while...03:53
cpl-tnt44ok almost done03:54
cpk2i thought for ndiswrapper you do fakeroot?03:54
cpl-tnt44fakeroot ?03:54
cpl-tnt44sudo....03:54
pbergerbut not for building...03:55
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cpl-tnt44ok pberger .. done03:55
pbergerperfect.03:55
cpl-tnt44now same ?03:55
cpl-tnt44make ?03:55
pbergernow go again to the ndiswrapper-1.24 directory03:55
pbergerand make03:55
cpl-tnt44i changed the name so it would be easier "ndis"03:55
kutan...How do I open a .deb?03:56
pbergerthats fine03:56
cpl-tnt44ok03:56
cpl-tnt44now what03:56
cpl-tnt44im ther03:56
pbergermake03:56
cpl-tnt44from where we took off ?03:56
pbergeryes03:56
pbergernow it shold compile03:56
cpl-tnt44now its thinking some ...03:56
cpl-tnt44good !03:56
pbergeryes this takes a while...03:56
cpl-tnt44ok03:57
cpl-tnt44what we do after ?03:57
cpl-tnt44fun compiling !03:57
pbergeryou see a lot of lines with [CC]  names module.o03:57
cpl-tnt44yes03:57
pbergerwhen finished, we do03:57
pbergersudo make install03:57
pbergerthis should give you at least a working ndiswrapper installation03:57
cpl-tnt44again ?03:57
pierrethwhat are you using to crypt?03:57
cpl-tnt44make install ? or INSTALL ?03:58
pbergersudo make install03:58
cpl-tnt44ok03:58
pbergerINSTALL is only the text-file with information for you, like README...03:58
cpl-tnt44ok im getting some errors...03:59
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cpl-tnt44usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-38603:59
cpl-tnt44mpmp03:59
cpl-tnt44my mistake ...04:00
cpl-tnt44no no04:00
ParkotronIs there an official release date for Edgy yet?04:00
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ubuntuI need some urgent help here: anyone have some time?04:00
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cpl-tnt44_module_/home/idan/ndis/driver error204:00
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cpl-tnt44"/home/idan/ndis/driver/hal.o error104:01
pbergercpl-tnt44: dont panic, wait until you have the promt again04:01
cpl-tnt44i have ...04:01
pbergerok04:01
cpl-tnt44this is the end of it ...04:01
cpl-tnt44ok now ?04:01
pbergerthen sudo make install04:01
cpl-tnt44again !?04:01
cpl-tnt44we just did !04:01
pbergerok, then its fine04:02
cpl-tnt44ok04:02
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cpl-tnt44now what04:02
ubuntui'm in livecd mode cause I can't get into my system, got the 30 reboot script04:02
pbergernow go to your dir with the driver .inf04:02
ubuntuand the process is hanging cause of shorewall04:02
pbergerand the same procedure as before:04:02
cpl-tnt44ndiswrapper -i ...04:02
pbergerndiswrapper -i name.inf04:02
pbergerexactly04:02
cpl-tnt44what about installing ndis ?04:03
ubuntucan someone pls help me completely remove shorewall from commandline?04:03
cpl-tnt44or we done that ?04:03
pbergerwe done that04:03
cpl-tnt44ok04:03
cpl-tnt44sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wire/*.inf right04:03
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pbergeryes04:03
ubuntuI didn't even have shorewall up and running when I rebooted04:04
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pbergerand then: ndiswrapper -l04:04
cpl-tnt44command not found man ...04:04
pbergerndiswrapper?04:04
cpl-tnt44sudo: ndiswrapper command not found04:04
cpl-tnt44yes04:05
cpl-tnt44im telling u we didnt installed it ...04:05
cpl-tnt44we removed it last time..04:05
pbergerbut you did: make install?04:05
pbergerthis _is_ installing...04:05
cpl-tnt44oh...04:05
cpl-tnt44if u say04:05
cpl-tnt44that's wierd04:06
pbergerindeed04:06
cpl-tnt44retry ?04:06
pbergergo back to ndis-dir04:06
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pbergertype: make clean04:06
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cpl-tnt44pl04:06
cpl-tnt44ok04:06
cpl-tnt44now ?04:07
cpl-tnt44done04:07
pbergerthen: make04:07
ubuntufdoving: my gnarly pal! u snoozing?04:07
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cpl-tnt44ok04:09
ubuntuhas anyone heard a peep out of fdoving recently?04:09
pbergerthen: sudo make uninstall04:09
pbergerthen: sudo make install04:09
ubuntupberger? u 2 busy helping cpl-tnt? mine might be a quick fix04:10
cpl-tnt44he can do us both ( :) )04:11
cpl-tnt44doesnt sounds so good /?04:11
pbergerubuntu: what's the problem04:11
ubuntuheheh...am in livecd and need to uninstall shorewall from commandline04:11
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ubuntui'd gotten the 30-reboot script, and it hung during the shorewall process04:12
pbergerubuntu: what is sherewall?04:12
ubuntushorewall wasn't even up and running when I rebooted...it's shorewall, the firewall04:12
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pbergerok04:12
pbergermaybe sudo killall shorewall04:13
cpl-tnt44pberger now its ok !04:13
pbergercpl-tnt44: thats good!04:13
pbergercpl-tnt44: now back to your diver dir and sudo ndiswrapper -i name.inf04:14
cpl-tnt44lol !04:14
ubuntuperhaps that will work while i'm trying to reboot, but I'd like to try and uninstall it from hdd while still in livecd mode04:14
cpl-tnt44oberger get this : instead of line 135 error i get now 164 error ...04:14
cpl-tnt44well we got a few more lines ...04:14
ubuntuso I need a commandline script that will completely remove all parts...can't use adept or synaptic04:14
pbergerubuntu: ok, then try to find the file which makes it load...04:14
igori have a video .avi ....when i play with MPlayer, it opens in another window...and shows an error : "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card availble."    "Run 'xinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html3xv!"    "See 'mplyer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11"04:14
igor?????04:15
pbergercpl-tnt44: then its something really wrong with the inf-file04:15
cpl-tnt44lol !04:15
ubuntuk, i'll try, but like I said, it never loaded completely cause it wasn't configured properly yet04:15
cpl-tnt44thanks !04:15
pbergercpl-tnt44: you did use the latest XP-driver?04:15
cpl-tnt44lets try an other inf file ..04:15
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cpl-tnt44yes04:15
cpl-tnt44maybe win2k file ?04:16
pbergerwhy not?04:16
cpl-tnt44lets try ...04:16
ubuntuI just need the 30-reboot script to skip the checking of the shorewall, and figured if there were no directories to shorewall check...04:16
ubuntuit couldn't hang there, and let me get into my desktop04:16
igorhey guys04:17
igorhey guys04:17
igor?????04:17
igori have a video .avi ....when i play with MPlayer, it opens in another window...and shows an error : "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card availble."    "Run 'xinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html3xv!"    "See 'mplyer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11"04:17
ubuntuhi igor04:17
igordoes do you knows what is happening man??04:17
igor:T04:17
pbergerubunt: is ist loaded by init.d?04:17
ubuntulet me check04:17
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pbergerubuntu: its init.d04:19
igordo i have to get any codec?04:19
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ubuntuk...now how do i get into that directory from the livecd to remove it? the partition is mounted here in livecd, but i can't seem to browse it04:21
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ubuntuigor: can u play other avi files?04:23
ubuntuwith mplayer, that is04:23
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igorto tell the true...i didnt try...04:25
ubuntuok igor: there are lots of codecs to install to handle multimedia, as well as graphics drivers for your video card, b4 you can play movies04:25
ubuntuhave u read the 'restrictedformats wiki to get all your codecs, including w32codecs and that?04:27
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ubuntupberger? u still here?04:27
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Slynderdaleigor: Here and for anyone else who want codecs for just about every video/sound file, try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/04:27
igori already have the w32 codecs...04:28
mabreauxdoes any one know how to edit grub's startup screen?04:28
igorbut i don know what else shoul i get...04:28
ubuntugood igor; have u followed the rest of restrictedformats howto?04:29
igorno....04:29
igor?T04:29
ubuntuthat gieves u a good list of all the multimedia codecs u need04:29
ubuntuit's on the ubuntu.com community support pages04:30
Slynderdaleigor: EasyUnbunto basicly gives you everything in an easy to install package for Kubunto.04:30
ubuntupberger?04:30
igorgood....04:31
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igorso in the ubuntu website....there are all codecs i need?04:31
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ubuntumabreak: in root shell, "cd \boot\grub"04:32
Kr4t05screenkast compile is asking for KDE headers. What should I look for?04:32
HawkwindKr4t05: Why are you compiling it ?  It's in deb format already04:32
ubuntuthen "nano menu.lst|04:32
Kr4t05Hawkwind: Rellay?04:32
ubuntuoops. "nano menu.lst" without quotes04:32
HawkwindKr4t05: Certainly so.  Look at my http://SeerOfSouls.com/  and then click on the Deb Packages tab at the top.  It's in contrib04:33
ubuntuigor: no, the restrictedformats howto is on the ubuntu.com website04:33
Hawkwind!codecs04:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:33
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Kr4t05Hawkwind: You, sir, are a god.04:34
ubuntuigor: u use synaptic or adept to get the apps the howto talks about04:34
ubuntuthere's the link to RestrictedFormats igor04:34
HawkwindKr4t05: SoS will hopefully soon be added to source-o-matic.  It's the largest 3rd party rpm repo for Mandriva and is growing quickly for deb stuff now too :)  I average about 2 million hits per month to the site :)04:34
Kr4t05I'm adding it.04:35
ubuntuhawkwind: i have a problem, and pberger seems to have disappeared04:35
igorthanks ubuntu...04:35
ubuntucould u help me with something?04:35
ubuntuno probs igor04:35
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Hawkwindubuntu: I'm actually heading to bed, though I'm sure someone can04:36
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ubuntuglad I could help somebody, as I often need it04:36
ubuntuk; goodnight hawkwind04:36
HawkwindKr4t05: I also have an E17 repo there that is updated usually about once a week or so.04:36
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caseyoma1How do I format a vfat partition (dev/hdb1)?04:36
cpl-tnt44pberger u there ?04:37
ubuntuproblem: i got the rebooted-30-times script at bootup, and it's hanging on shorewall firewall app04:37
ubuntui'm in livecd now, and need a command line to completely remove shorewall from mounted partition04:38
SlynderdaleWhy not boot up in safe mode and remove it?04:38
Hawkwindsudo apt-get remove --purge shorewall04:38
ubuntutried safemode...thnks, hawkwind!04:39
DaSkreechIs there an app to stress test your machine?04:39
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ubuntulet me try it...brb04:42
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DaSkreechHawkwind: Taking some time off for SuperTuxkart?04:42
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ubuntuk, got a couple of error messages about not being able to get a lock on some directories04:43
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dennis_well I just got another laptop up  and running with a bcm4319 w/ WPA, no the strange thing is whne I reboot the system, sometimes the wireless card shows up as eth2 or wlan004:45
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cpl-tnt44what is the linux source dir ?04:51
cpl-tnt44what is the linux source dir ?04:51
cpl-tnt44oops04:51
cpl-tnt44usr/src/linux ?04:52
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mabreauxthanks for the information on editting the grub menu......04:52
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Dr_williscpl-tnt44,  thats it normally. but ive noticed that ubuntu keeps the kernels in their own dirs.. I recall that normally 'linux' is a link to the current kernel/version.. but that may not be the standard any more04:59
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rendalsalve05:00
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cpl-tnt44While sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf ,gettinf couldn't open netma401.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164 . ANY ONE have any idea\clue how to solve this !??05:06
Dr_willis!skype05:08
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:08
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cpl-tnt44Dr_willis how can i solve this ?05:09
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cpl-tnt44dont use ndiswrapper ?05:09
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[-KaSatKa-] Amarok says I don't have visualizations installed but I do, How can I make amarok check to see if any are installed?05:10
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DaSkreechIs there an app to stress test your machine?05:13
Dr_williscpl-tnt44,  make a soft link from your kernel source dir to the linux dir.05:14
Dr_williscpl-tnt44,  i had to to that to compile the vmware modules.05:14
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cpl-tnt44mmm05:17
cpl-tnt44how i do a soft link05:17
cpl-tnt44?05:17
cpl-tnt44and between which 2 folders ?05:17
cpl-tnt44Dr Willis plz help ... im sitting on it like 20 hours..05:18
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Dr_willisln -s somthing somthingelse05:19
Dr_willisbash 101 stuff  :)05:19
Dr_willisand i always get it backwards05:19
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RawSewagehow do you skip the 30 mount disk check for a later time05:20
cahuezhiya; looking for the right flash/shockwave plugin.. :)05:21
Dr_willisRawSewage,  use tunefs or was it tune2fs.. somthing like that to set the # to whatever ya want.05:22
RawSewageis there a command I can type when it the check starts to abort05:22
Dr_willisUsage: tune2fs [-c max_mounts_count] 05:22
Dr_willisRawSewage,  best to just let it run05:22
RawSewageI know but05:22
Dr_willismay try ctrl-c or ctrl-d - but never tried to stop it05:23
RawSewageonce in a while, Im in a hurry, and cant wait 30 minutes for it to check05:23
RawSewageok05:23
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Dr_willis30 min? Hmm..ya got either  real slow system.. or dma is not enabled.. or UBER huge ha4rd drives05:23
RawSewageactually, I think it was an hour on my laptop05:24
RawSewagethx05:25
RawSewagedoes the disk check do some defragging05:25
Dr_willisext2/3 does not really have a fragmention issue.05:25
RawSewagewhat if your disk is consantly full05:26
Dr_willisnot sure of any linux filesystems that do.05:26
cpl-tnt44Dr_willis care to write me the command for softlink ?05:27
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Dr_willisln -s place1 place205:27
cpl-tnt44ok what is my place 2 ?05:27
Dr_willis'ln -s' makes a soft link.05:28
Dr_willisln  makes a hard link05:28
cpl-tnt44ok i dunno the diff care to explain ?05:28
Dr_willislinuxsource-kerne-dir   for one, then 'linux' for the otehr.05:28
Dr_willisman ln05:28
Dr_willisa hard link is IDENTICAL to the file.05:28
Dr_willisso when in doubt use soft links05:28
cpl-tnt44ok05:28
Smooph!teamspeak05:28
cpk2i thought you really only get fragmented disks if the swap is on the same partition?05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
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Dr_willisswap is in its own partition - so it never affects the other filesystem partitions05:29
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RawSewagewell05:29
Dr_willisa swap FILE - is normally of a set size -  if using that feature. (from what i rember)05:29
RawSewageif my disk is full, and Im constantly deleting, adding more files, the file has no room to breathe05:30
cpl-tnt44Dr willis so my 1st folder is /use/sbin/ndiswrapper my 2nd is linuxsource-kernel-dir?05:30
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RawSewageseems like the file would have to fragment05:30
RawSewageif I delete 6 100mb files, to make room for 1 600mb file05:30
cpl-tnt44so the right command is this : ln -s /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper linuxsource-kerne-dir ?05:31
Dr_williscpl-tnt44,  no.. you want to do ln -s kernel-source-dir  /usr/src/linux  (I THINK) not sure what your really trying to do05:31
RawSewageit will have to be fragmented05:31
Dr_williscpl-tnt44,  theres NO reason to link a Binary to a dir... thats making no sence at all05:31
cpl-tnt44so what i need to do !?05:31
Dr_willisthe files are 'fragmented' but have no real effect on the preformace i guess is the 'correct' way05:31
cpl-tnt44dir to binary ?05:31
Dr_williscpl-tnt44,  I dont know what you are even trying to do05:31
Dr_williswhat you just said is totally 'not right'05:32
cpl-tnt44ndiswrapper command writes me this error05:32
cpl-tnt44While sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf ,gettinf couldn't open netma401.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164 . ANY ONE have any idea\clue how to solve this !??05:32
Dr_willis/usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164   - is the command and line# thats hacing the error...05:32
cpl-tnt44and then i get driver invalid ...05:32
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cpl-tnt44not good05:32
cpl-tnt44like this with almost any inf file05:33
Dr_willissounds to me like it wants  the netma401.inf directory05:33
Dr_williserr file.05:33
Dr_willisyou sure you are giving it the right path for the -i command?05:33
Dr_williswhat is your USER name?05:33
cpl-tnt44yes05:33
cpl-tnt44idan05:33
Dr_willisyou got the stuff in the 'wireless' dir?05:33
cpl-tnt44user=idan05:33
RawSewageok05:33
Dr_willisok... STOP.. look.. think...05:33
Dr_willis -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf05:33
cpl-tnt44yes05:33
cpl-tnt44exsacly05:34
Dr_willisi am GUESSING you should be using 'idan' not 'user'05:34
cpl-tnt44i know05:34
cpl-tnt44i am05:34
Dr_willis:) ok..05:34
cpl-tnt44this was just an exsample05:34
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igorhow i put a subtitle in the kaffeine????05:34
igoranybody knows????05:34
cpl-tnt44any suggestions ?05:34
RawSewageoh yeah, I remember what I was going to ask05:34
RawSewageigor, what do you mean05:34
RawSewageigor, do you have the srt file05:34
cpl-tnt44i already compiled the installation of ndiswrapper ... and still same error diffrent line05:35
Dr_willisIve never messed with ndiswrapper.. so really cant tell ya much about it.. check the wiki/forums.. sound almost like either the program cant read that dir.. or the file formats are wrong.05:35
cpl-tnt44 newesr version .. newest kernal ...05:35
cpl-tnt44i dunno what im doin wrong05:35
igori have the file05:35
igor:T05:35
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RawSewageMy question is:  what program should I use to mount a bin file.  some sort of virtual drive05:35
igor.srt05:35
cpl-tnt44Dr Willis care for a link to the forums plz05:35
RawSewageigor, just put the .srt in the same folde as the video, and make sure they have the same name05:36
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igorok05:36
igorthanks....05:36
Dr_willisgoogle for  ubuntu forums.. gesh. :)05:37
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RawSewagewhats the url for google05:37
Dr_willis!ndiswrappers05:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ndiswrappers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
Dr_willis!ndiswrapper05:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:37
cpl-tnt44ubotu>05:37
cpl-tnt44thanks! all of u ..05:37
RawSewage!bin05:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:38
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SlynderdaleUmm, I just popped in an external drive and it shows ND #endif as the name05:39
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digivorehey i screwed up my system installing e16... how can i get linux to start up in KDE again?05:46
Dr_willishow did you mnage to break that05:46
ParkotronRawSewage: I believe Kiso will convert BINs to ISOs which you can then easily mount.05:46
digivoreis there something i can change in my profile to tell linux to start in KDE ??05:47
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RawSewageParkotron, ok, ty05:47
Parkotrondigivore: You should have the option of choosing in KDM.05:48
digivoreohh.  there it is.05:49
Parkotrondigivore: Provided your install isn't entirely messed, there should be multiple options under Session Type in the KDM menu.05:49
digivorethanks, didn'tknow that was there.05:49
Parkotrondigivore: You're welcome.05:50
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digivoreohh,   e-kde.. thats funny.  half and half...05:51
RawSewagekiso works good05:51
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Dr_willisbroke it - :)05:52
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ParkotronRawSewage: I've never used it myself, and I was a little worried because it hasn't seen an update since last Christmas. But I'm glad it worked out for you.05:52
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RawSewagereboot05:55
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cahuezhi there; how can i re-config the xorg server..?05:56
Dr_williswith a dpkg-reconfigure SOMTHING  command05:56
Dr_willisi never can rember the SOMTHING05:56
Dr_willis:)05:57
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cahuezhehehe, me neither..05:57
Dr_willisi alwyas got to google for it05:57
cahuezi did it sometime when..05:57
Dr_willisbut ive rarely needed to run it05:57
bimberisudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:57
bimberi:)05:57
cahuezi tasted edubuntu and it works, hehe..05:57
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Dr_willisyea - i always just try 'xorg' :)05:57
cahuezthe issue is that when i turn on the box..05:58
cahuezit delays forever and..05:58
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cahuezi have to alt+f1 as root to..05:58
cahuezconfig the serial mouse, sb sound and other stuff..!05:58
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cahuezi can remember that there is a..05:59
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cahuezway just for config the stuff..05:59
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cahuezis a config i found sometime before but..06:00
cahuezi think it works only not with kubuntu..06:00
Parkotron!enter06:00
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.06:00
RawSewagelol06:01
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cahuez;)06:01
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michaelAnyone have any idea why nv drivers do NOT work with my Nvidia card?06:01
RawSewagedid you change nv to nvidia06:02
RawSewagebut nv should work06:02
michaelWill that make the difference? Because if I switch to nv, X blows up in my face.06:02
cahuezare you doing a apt-get for the controllers..?06:02
michaelIt gives me a blank screen with a white line, and doesn't move forever.06:02
michaelI did apt-get06:02
RawSewageinstall the nvidia drivers, and change nv to nvidia in that .conf file06:02
michaelHope that works.06:03
michaelWhat's the apt-get... uh... apt-get install nvidia-glx?06:03
RawSewageI think thats it06:03
cahuezhow can i config <forever> the serial mouse, sb sound for the right time..?06:03
RawSewagestill. nv should work06:04
cahuezwhen i boot the box, i have so config the /dev/mouse,06:04
jmichaelxhow would one install kubuntu with an nvidia card? i am not able to get x going so that i can get to the point where i can install 'nvidia'.... is there a boot code of some sort?06:04
michaelIt doesn't.06:04
michaelI promise.06:04
RawSewageI know.  Im just saying, thats an odd problem06:04
michaelYou have to use vesa man06:04
michaelThat's what I had to do :\06:04
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RawSewagenvidia is best anyway06:04
cpk2jmichaelx: you are trying to use the live cd?06:04
michaeldo uh... apt-get-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... I think is it.06:04
jmichaelxcpk2: yes06:05
cahueztesting...06:05
michaeland select vesa06:05
cpk2jmichaelx: did you try safe mode?06:05
jmichaelxcpk2: yeah, i tried safe mode, but still no x06:05
michaelDang man.06:05
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cpk2jmichaelx: did you try going to a different terminal and see what the x log said?06:06
jmichaelxcpk2: no, i guess i could do that06:06
cpk2the kubuntu live cd didnt give me x normally but did in safe mode and I didnt have any problems once it installed06:06
RawSewagejmichaelx, are you installing Dapper or Edgy06:06
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cpk2jmichaelx: if you cant get the live cd to work you will probably need the alternate cd06:07
jmichaelxRawSewage: i have tried both06:07
jmichaelxcpk2: that is what i was wondering.....06:07
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cahuezmm, it don't like it> apt-get-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:08
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jmichaelxi supposed i could take this card back out, use the integrated card to install kubuntu, then download the nvidia drver, put the card back in and fire up??06:08
jmichaelxdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:09
Dr_willisyou can install the nvidia drivers from the console.06:09
Dr_willisodd that its screwing up so badly06:09
Dr_willisit may be getting cinfused by the onboard card and the  other card06:09
michaelYeah I'm about to edit xorg.conf06:09
michaelThen reboot06:09
michaelTHis shall be fun06:09
jmichaelxDr_willis: i would first need to install in order to download the driver, not?06:10
Dr_willisjmichaelx,  depends. :P ive seen some live cd's that come with the nvidia and ati driver.. and im wondering how they are legally doing that.. :)06:10
KDEfanboymichyou might also want to try nvidia's nvidia-xconfig06:10
unix_infidelwow, my video card is at 58C while my proc is at 41C.06:10
RawSewageCustomized distro06:11
unix_infidelthat's rediculous....06:11
Dr_willisbut kubuntu/ubuntu cant.. (guess they are sticking to the legal high ground)06:11
jmichaelxDr_willis: i have too, i used the kororaa live CD on this box, and it obviously contained 'nvidia'.... and xgl/compiz worked great lol06:11
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cpk2cahuez: its sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:12
KDEfanboyKororaa did stop distributing them tho06:12
Dr_willisjmichaelx,  im guessing the little guys get under the radar.. Kororaa got caught tho dident they?  I think Mepis may have cut some deal however.06:12
Dr_willisNow ya can get Linux Warez with the old verson of Kororra :)06:13
cpk2Dr_willis: cant you insert packages into the live cd though after you download it?06:13
jmichaelxmepis contains nvidia/??? i should just install mepis, then. it is pretty much the same as kubuntu, anyways06:13
jmichaelxi guess i must have the old kororaa version06:13
Dr_willisjmichaelx,   im thinkingit does...  actually im not sure that freespire dont do it as well..06:14
Dr_willisi aint checked out mepis in some time. It dident have much else going for it06:14
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jmichaelxDr_willis: i have mepis one one box here in my apartment..... it's nice. basically the same as kubuntu, except that the live CD had a lot of non-free on it06:15
Dr_willisthe mepis live cd - installer was better done.06:15
Dr_willis:)06:15
Dr_willisbut the #mepis channel and forums and so on.. where no near near as well done.06:16
Dr_willisbut this was a few months ago.06:16
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jmichaelxmepis does not quite has the community base that ubuntu has... not y a long shot06:17
jmichaelxhave*06:17
jmichaelxby*06:17
Dr_willis:006:18
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Dr_willis:)06:18
jmichaelxby the way, slack 11.0 has been released...06:18
Dr_willisyep - got the torrent downloading now. :)06:19
jmichaelxlol06:19
Dr_willisgotta love testing new disrtos in vmware06:19
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jmichaelxi have not tried that yet... i just have way too many old PCs sitting around06:19
jmichaelxi need to leard how to use vmware06:20
omarhi guys I installed frostwire and it dowsn't open06:20
omarwhat can i do06:20
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Dr_willis#1 check your java version06:20
Dr_willis#2 if your version is not suns official java.. read the !java url and use the update-alternetives  information to set it to use suns java by default.06:21
Dr_willis:)06:21
DaSkreechIs there an app to stress test your machine?06:21
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Dr_willisDaSkreech,  ive seen some benchmark tools befor.. but never used any06:21
omarDr_willis how to check the version06:22
Dr_willisguess it depends on what you want to test. :)06:22
Dr_willisjava -version06:22
Dr_willis:) or was it --version06:22
michaelYeah, that failed miserably06:22
omarDr_willis it's 1.4.206:22
Dr_willisomar,  check the OTHER lines in the version output...06:23
fdovingDaSkreech: you can checkout the 'stress' package.06:23
omarDr_willis you want me to paste averything06:23
Dr_willisomar,  no.. that version # tells me you are NOT using the sun java.. go to step 2 :)06:23
Dr_willisava version "1.5.0_06"06:24
Dr_willisJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)06:24
michaelSetting my driver to "nvidia" causes X to bomb the same as it being set to "nv".06:24
Dr_willisYour has gljc or somthing in the 2nd line. :P i cant rember exactly however.06:24
cahueztake a look to xorg.conf..06:24
notechmichael: check the xorg.0.log06:25
notechor is it Xorg.0.log, i forget06:25
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michaelEither way, it doesn't exist because it doesn't get a chance to create it06:25
michaelIt bombs, as in, it goes to a blank screen and does nothing else.06:26
michaelHard drive is active, and scratching, but no view.06:26
DaSkreechfdoving: That looks like it :)006:26
notechmichael:  did it ever work?06:26
omarDr_willis looks so complicated :(06:27
michaelNo.06:27
Dr_willisomar,  thee 1 line you need to use 'update-alternatives SOMTHING' that i forget..06:27
notechmichael: sorry, i've never heard/seen that before06:28
michaelYeah06:28
KDEfanboymichael: try nvidia-xconfig, nvidia's x configurator06:28
RawSewagehow do you unmount using mount06:28
notechumount06:29
Dr_willisRawSewage,  you dont .. you use 'umount'06:29
Dr_willis:)06:29
michael"bash: nvidia-xconfig: command not found"06:29
RawSewagety06:29
Dr_willisand NO i dont know where the 'n' went. :)06:29
KDEfanboymichael sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig06:29
michaelE: Couldn't find package nvidia-xconfig06:29
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RawSewagelol06:30
michaelI happen to have two major things not working that I need working06:32
michaelmy onboard Via Rhine06:32
michaeland my video card.06:32
RawSewagewhat do you need the video card working for06:33
michaelBecause VESA is a piece of crap.06:33
michaeland there is 0 reasons to use Vesa.06:33
michaelI enjoy 2D and 3D hardware acceleration06:33
RawSewagelol06:33
Dr_willis--> /kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.ko06:33
cpk2!nvidia06:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:33
RawSewagewhy didnt nvidia work06:33
michaelIt just doesn't.06:33
michaelIt gives a blank screen and nothing else06:33
RawSewageyou changed xorg.conf ?06:33
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michaelYes.06:33
michaelYes I did.06:33
RawSewageyou installed nvidia-glx06:34
michaelI have different problems with the Rhine06:34
michaelYes.06:34
RawSewagehow many kernels do you have in GRUB06:34
michael2.06:34
KDEfanboymichael add 'universe' repository or download manually: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=nvidia-xconfig&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all06:34
michaelThe latest and whatever came with 5.1006:34
RawSewagedid you try using the other one06:34
michaelYeah I tried before06:34
michaelthat's why I updated06:34
michaelI'd hope it'd work : )06:34
michaeland it didn't.06:35
RawSewagedid you search the forums06:35
michaelThat link has amd64 in it.06:35
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RawSewageUbuntu Forums06:36
michaelNot just yet.06:37
cahuezhey michael, take a look here> http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/ and find..06:37
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cahuez Linux Gaming Part 4 - Installing NVidia Graphics Driver06:37
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KDEfanboymichael it has amd64 and i38606:38
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angrykeyboarderI can't seem to get KDM to accept my password.  I've got both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed. I switched from GDM to KDM.  KDM won't accept my password.  I've tried everything  I can think of but nothing helps.  If I go back to using GDM it takes my password just fine.  I'd rather use KDM though.  Any ideas?06:40
michaelI 'ave the .deb file, how do I "install" this mofo?06:40
cahuezmichael: using aptitude front-end..06:41
Parkotronangrykeyboarder: What version of Ubuntu and what version of KDE?06:41
KDEfanboy!dpkg06:41
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.06:41
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Parkotronmichael: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb06:42
angrykeyboarderEdgy and KDE 3.5.4.  But actually I ran into this same probem months ago in Dapper and nobody had a solution.06:42
illmatik`im trying to edit my boot order from kubuntu, but when I try to save the menu file i get some sort of error06:42
Parkotronangrykeyboarder: Bizarre, I have no idea. Sorry.06:43
Parkotronillmatik`: What "boot order" are you refering to?06:44
illmatik`i forget the name...but basically when I start up my laptop I just wanna set the default OS to windows and also edit the timeout06:44
illmatik`but i cant save the file06:44
Parkotronillmatik`: Ah, GRub's menu.lst.06:44
angrykeyboarderI guess it only affects me.  When I asked months ago on the mailng list I got no response. ;-)  Oh well. I guess I'll try that route again and see if I have better luck this time.06:45
illmatik`yes sir06:45
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Parkotronillmatik`: You need to edit the file with root privelidges.06:45
illmatik`care to explain, as you can tell im a complete linux noob06:46
illmatik`just gettin into this heh06:46
cahuezgo to /boot/grub and edit the menu.lst file..06:46
illmatik`i did06:46
illmatik`but i cant save it06:46
cahuezare you editing with vi..?06:46
Parkotronillmatik`: As a user, you don't have permission to edit systemwide configuration files.06:47
illmatik`so what do i need  to do to get root privelidges06:47
ParkotronThe short answer is run "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"06:47
cahuezyep, you have to be root.. :)06:47
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illmatik`got it06:47
Parkotron!sudo06:47
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:47
pierre_hi06:47
cahuezhiya pierre..06:48
illmatik`a few more questions...when i installed kubuntu i accidently gave the linux partition 80 GBs and my windows 20, whats the easiest way to edit the partitions and give my windows 80GB?06:48
Parkotronillmatik`: Read the above article. It's probably the most important part of switching to Linux.06:48
illmatik`will do06:48
cahuezyep, re-installing it..06:48
illmatik`i cant just edit the partition sizes?06:48
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cahuezyep you can but you have to re-partition it with qtpart..06:49
Parkotronillmatik`: Try QTParted or GParted. They're graphical partition editors.06:49
cpk2illmatik`: its possible to resize them, depending on how much free space you have06:49
cahuezqtparted is the right one..06:49
illmatik`got it, which brings me to my last question06:50
illmatik`i tried installing my first program...it was Konversation, the IRC client06:50
cahuezyou need free space a lot for doing it success..@06:50
Parkotroncahuez: GParted is actually the superior product of the two. Unfortunately it relies of GTK.06:50
illmatik`and i tried doing ./config in the terminal and it started to config it but then I got an error saying it couldnt find kde-info or something like that06:50
illmatik`cahuez: just bought this laptop today :] 06:51
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Parkotronillmatik`: As a beginner, you shouldn't have to compile software. Just install Ubuntu's binary packages with Adept.06:51
cahuezgive a try to>apt-get install konversation ..06:51
illmatik`just type that in terminal?06:51
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cahuezyep, sounds better.. :)06:52
illmatik`sweet06:52
cahuezyep..06:52
illmatik`thatll be the first thing i do so i can talk to you guys in kubuntu06:52
cahuezgive it a try..06:52
illmatik`thanks, brb06:52
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cahuezbut in fact konversation is present by default in..06:52
cahuezany xbuntu distro..06:52
cpk2or ksirc06:53
cpk2for kde06:53
cahuezjust find it out at menu K..06:53
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rootNo.06:53
rootthat failed miserably.06:53
rootSame results06:53
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michaelxThat failed  badly.06:54
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Parkotronmichaelx: What's your trouble?06:55
michaelxX doesn't work the same.06:55
cahuez**06:55
michaelx"nv" and "nvidia" driver listings do NOT work.06:55
Parkotronmichaelx: Does vesa?06:55
michaelxYes.06:55
michaelxThat's what I'm currently using06:55
Parkotronmichaelx: It's not a lot of fun, but have you tried compiling the nVidia drivers yourself?06:56
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michaelxYes, it bombs06:56
michaelxUbby comes with less than 1 thing to build them.06:56
michaelxKubby, actually.06:56
michaelxtried it with both anyway06:57
ParkotronWhat are you missing?06:57
michaelxUh06:57
michaelxActually06:57
michaelxI apt-get'd what I needed06:57
michaelxbut GCC mismatched06:57
Parkotronmichaelx: I think they only need build-essential and the linux headers.06:57
michaelxwith my kernel06:58
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michaelxLet me go fetch the .run from the site real quick06:58
Parkotronmichaelx: You have to change the GCC version before you begin the install.06:58
michaelxI KNOW that works, it did on slack, and beautifully06:58
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Parkotronmichaelx: Dapper or Edgy?06:59
Parkotronmichaelx: I've used this in the past with success: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13926406:59
michaelx5.10... Believe it's Dapper.06:59
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LeeJunFan5.10 is breezy.07:00
Parkotron5.10 is Breezy.07:00
michaelxOh.07:00
michaelxThanks.07:00
michaelxthen I have that : )07:00
michaelxI ran... apt-get install dist-upgrade... update... whatever it is.07:01
Parkotronmichaelx: At this point, I'd say you're better of downloading a fresh Dapper (6.06) CD and starting from scratch.07:01
LeeJunFan!upgrade07:02
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:02
michaelxWhaaaaat.07:02
Parkotronmichaelx: I would only bother going through an upgrade if you already have a working system, which from the sounds of things, you don't.07:02
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Parkotronmichaelx: But of course that's my personal opinion.07:03
michaelxErg...07:03
michaelx24.6KBS here guys07:03
michaelxNot a good option : )07:03
michaelxDSL is death.07:03
Parkotronmichaelx: I was affraid you'd say that.07:04
michaelxOh yeah, nothing is easy.07:04
michaelxNot with Linux, that's why I use it.07:04
Parkotronmichaelx: Have you run Linux/X/nvidia drivers on this computer before?07:05
KDEfanboymichaelx what card is it?07:05
michaelxSlackware loves the drivers from nvidia07:05
michaelxand windows loves them too.07:05
michaelxit's an eVga Nvidia 7600GS07:05
Parkotronmichaelx: Is that model newer than October 2005?07:06
michaelxUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH07:06
michaelxLet me check.07:06
michaelxI have no idea, I bought it in 06 but it's been out a while I"m sure,07:07
ParkotronIf so, that would explain why a Kubuntu 5.10 CD wouldn't have drivers for it.07:07
michaelxHuh07:08
michaelx6.06 hopefully has Via Rhine working too.07:09
michaelxThe story with that07:09
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michaelxis that I hit "Enable" and then it just disables itself .2 seconds07:09
michaelxlater07:09
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illmatik`yay i got konversation installed07:09
Healotvia rhine/velocity is supported since 2.6.807:11
Parkotronmichaelx: Support for the 7600 was only added to the drivers in April. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html07:11
michaelxAww.07:11
michaelxSo bogus.07:11
michaelxAll right well here's what I'll do then.07:11
illmatik`so im trying to edit the menu.lst file...why am i getting kdesu: command not found07:11
michaelx"borrow" a connection07:12
michaelxand get a move on.07:12
michaelxPleasent talking to you helpful people, thanks, hope to be back soon07:12
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SlynderdaleCOuld always use AUtomatrix or EasyUbuntu to install ATI/NVidia drivers, thats what I did and worked like a charm07:12
Parkotronillmatik`: Are you on Kubuntu?07:12
illmatik`yes sir07:12
Parkotronillmatik`: kdesu has to be there.07:13
illmatik`=/ dunno what to say, i installed kubuntu from the latest cd07:13
Parkotronillmatik`: Exactly what command did you type in?07:13
LeeJunFanshould be in /usr/bin/kdesu try ls to see if it's there?07:13
LeeJunFanit's in kdebase-bin, don't know how it couldn't be on installed.07:14
illmatik`sudo kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst07:15
Parkotronillmatik`: Drop the "sudo".07:15
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illmatik`ack. im a total nub, i cant even navigate to /usr/bin/kdesu ... whats the linux equivalent of cd.. ?07:15
Parkotronillmatik`: sudo and kdesu do the same thing. sudo is for command line apps, kdesu is for graphical apps.07:16
LeeJunFanillmatik`: cd07:16
midspeedhi everybody, how do i format a NTFS partition hard drive on kubuntu 6.0607:16
LeeJunFanerr cd .. to go up a dir07:16
Parkotronillmatik`: cd .. (you need the space.)07:16
casfindadQuick sound question: How do I turn on system sounds in KDE? All other sounds (internet videos, amarok, etc.) work fine.07:16
illmatik`ah got it07:16
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illmatik`there is no kdesu in usr/bin07:17
Parkotronillmatik`: I make that mistake so frequently I've had to map cd.. to cd ..07:17
midspeedhow do i format a NTFS partition hard drive on kubuntu 6.06???????07:17
illmatik`i see kdesu_stub07:17
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LeeJunFanmidspeed: mkfs.ntfs07:18
midspeedmkfs.ntfs on the konsole??? and thats it07:18
midspeed?07:18
LeeJunFanmidspeed: ie, mkfs.ntfs /dev/hda1 will format partition 1 of your primary IDE in ntfs.07:18
Parkotronillmatik`: Try "which kdesu".07:18
LeeJunFanmidspeed: open konsole and type 'man mkfs.ntfs'07:18
midspeedok07:19
illmatik`nothing happens07:19
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Parkotronillmatik`: Hmm. That's a doosy of a problem.07:20
LeeJunFanillmatik`: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin07:20
Parkotronillmatik`: For the moment you can edit that file in a console with "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst".07:20
illmatik`thanks07:21
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illmatik`now a general question...how do you know the names of these programs so that I can download them through the terminal as i did konversationter07:21
illmatik`for instancve i need to get QTparted.07:21
LeeJunFanillmatik`: did you install from kubuntu CD or ubuntu CD?07:22
illmatik`kubuntu07:22
Parkotronillmatik`: Use KMenu|System|Adept. It's a graphical frontend that lets you search and browse for software.07:23
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LeeJunFanillmatik`: konversation should have been installed as well by default. I think. you should run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and have it install all the kubuntu desktop all over again.07:23
LeeJunFanillmatik`: or at least it should install any missing parts.07:23
illmatik`yeah...Kemenu|System|Adept isnt even there07:24
LeeJunFanyou need to install kubuntu-desktop you've got some severely missing parts there. You didn't do a "server" install when you installed did you?07:25
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Parkotronillmatik`: Yes, you've definitely got an incomlete or nonstandard install there.07:25
illmatik`not sure wha thappened07:25
LeeJunFanheh, neither am I.07:25
Parkotronillmatik`: Well, it least what you do have is running! :) That's an an accomplishment in itself for many Linux beginners.07:26
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LeeJunFanillmatik`: if you run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' it should get you to a complete running kubuntu system.07:27
illmatik`i did the command to install kubuntu-desktop and it didnt really do anything07:27
illmatik`nothing downloaded or installed07:27
Parkotronillmatik`: What exactly did it say?07:27
LeeJunFanillmatik`: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?07:28
LeeJunFan!pastebin07:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:28
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illmatik`http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25548/07:29
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illmatik`http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25549/07:30
illmatik`^ attemping to install kubuntu-desktop07:30
arejayteehow can i see free space on a drive? i feel stupid not being able to find it lol07:31
LeeJunFanarejaytee: df -h07:31
LeeJunFanarejaytee: there are other ways but that's the fastest.07:32
cpk2thank god apt-get can resume downloads frim where it left off07:32
cpk2just timed out but it resumed where it left off07:32
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LeeJunFanillmatik`: try running 'sudo apt-get -f install'07:32
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arejayteethanks LeeJunFan07:33
arejayteehrmm 17 gig used ! lol07:33
LeeJunFanillmatik`: I have no idea why it wouldn't be able to install language-selector-qt, it IS in main, and your repos are right.07:33
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illmatik`0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.07:34
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LeeJunFanillmatik`: what about 'sudo apt-get -f upgrade'07:34
LeeJunFanillmatik`: I have a feeling either your download of the CD or the burn is corrupted.07:34
illmatik`download 54 megs of updates07:35
illmatik`:)07:35
RawSewageare you installing Dapper or Edgy07:35
LeeJunFandapper07:35
cpk2amorok and amorok-xine seem to be kept back to matter what?07:35
RawSewageEdgy has about 25 packages currently held  back07:35
LeeJunFanillmatik`: after that's done try 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'07:36
illmatik`:/ its stuck at 0%07:36
LeeJunFanugh.07:36
illmatik`im gonna plug in my wired network07:36
illmatik`brb07:36
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DaSkreechGood night all07:38
LeeJunFangnight DaSkreech07:38
DaSkreechLeeJunFan: Quick question07:39
DaSkreechDo you have XGL installed on Edgy Kubuntu?07:39
LeeJunFanDaSkreech: yeah07:40
LeeJunFanusing beryl right now.07:40
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DaSkreechNice Which Video card?07:40
LeeJunFanATI 970007:40
DaSkreechExcellent :)07:40
illmatik`k im on ethernet now...downloading the kubuntu upgrade07:40
DaSkreech is there a walktrhough for that?07:40
DaSkreech I have a klass I'm teaching and it's an ATI box which I have Kubuntu Beta on07:41
Parkotronillmatik`: Is it downloading now?07:41
illmatik`yeah got a minute to go07:41
DaSkreech would be fun to casually turn on Beryl and watch them freak07:41
LeeJunFanDaSkreech: just follow the existing compiz ones, the repositories are the same, just apt-get install beryl instead of compiz07:41
Parkotronillmatik`: Well that's an excellent sign. With any luck you should be fully up and running shortly.07:41
DaSkreechSo the install routines haven't changed very much?07:41
illmatik`awesome, i appreciate the help07:42
LeeJunFanDaSkreech: no, you just substitute beryl for compiz, if you are running xgl then use beryl-xgl, and emerald in place of cdwg07:42
DaSkreechalright thanks :) I'll have to try it out over the next few days07:43
DaSkreechget drivers first etc07:43
DaSkreechNIght again07:43
illmatik`k finished parkotron07:43
illmatik`wasnt there some other commands you wanted me to do07:44
LeeJunFanDaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25550/07:44
LeeJunFanDaSkreech: there's my ~/.Xsession to start it. Then if at kdm you choose to run default it will start xgl/beryl07:44
Parkotronillmatik`: Well, let's start with your original question. Does "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst" work?07:44
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DaSkreechLeeJunFan: Thanks07:45
LeeJunFanDaSkreech: np, gnight again :)07:45
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illmatik`http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25551/ - doest work07:46
LeeJunFanillmatik`: now would probably be best to 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'07:46
Parkotronillmatik`: OK, not everythings been installed yet. Try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"07:47
illmatik`alright! only 750 megs to go07:47
LeeJunFanwhew. it really left out some stuff.07:47
illmatik`wonder what happened07:47
Parkotron750? Wow. That's more than a CDs worth.07:47
LeeJunFanowell, at least it looks like it's  going in the right direction now. I'm off to bed myself. gnight.07:47
illmatik`sweet well it looks like im in good shape once this is finished07:48
LeeJunFanillmatik`: probably so.07:48
illmatik`from there i should be able to format my partitions correctly07:48
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illmatik`is it possible to access my folders on my windows PC? theyre shared on the network07:48
Parkotronillmatik`: Yes. I'll try to find a guid for you.07:49
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illmatik`sweet, thanks07:49
Parkotronhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba07:50
casfindadHas anyone had luck connecting to Yahoo IM using Kopete?07:51
Healotlike everyday :)07:51
Parkotronillmatik`: If you only want to browse shared files, that's more than you need, but if you want to share in both directions you'll need to set it all up.07:51
casfindadHealot: Any suggestions? I can get AIM to work, but not Yahoo.07:51
illmatik`looks good. how about accessing directories on my other windows partition?07:52
Healotwhat seems to be the problem?07:52
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Healoti just enter my username, password, bam connect07:52
Parkotronillmatik`: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows07:52
casfindadHealot: I set up my Yahoo account, hit connect, and the bouncing smiley jumps around until it greys out.07:53
illmatik`man youre on a roll07:53
casfindadHealot: I'm behind a router firewall; did you need to forward a port or anything?07:53
Healotcheck your username+password? casfindad07:53
Healotcasfindad, yes...07:53
Parkotronillmatik`: In fact you might want to read everything on psychocats.net/ubuntu . It's all really good beginner information.07:53
illmatik`right on07:53
casfindadHealot: I'll do that. Except the same username and passwd work with Gaim on my xubuntu box.07:54
Healoti can't remember the address setting though, maybe using Windows Y! Messenger and checking the Y! connection would help07:54
casfindadHealot: So Windows Y! Messenger is available for Linux?07:55
Healotyes, gaim has the alternate HTTP connection, can't remember whether Kopete has that setting...07:55
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Healotcasfindad, obviously there is a Linux port :)07:55
casfindadHealot: Kopete offer alternate HTTP too.07:55
Parkotronillmatik`: I too must be off to bed. Can you think of any more questions before I leave you to fend for yourself?07:55
Healotcasfindad, use that HTTP alternate feature too... casfindad07:55
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illmatik`where can i scan and install my printers07:56
illmatik`and i think im good for tonight :)07:56
Parkotronillmatik`: What do you mean by "scan"?07:56
illmatik`maybe the wrong word, i just wanna install the printers on my network07:56
Healotscan with xsane; setting up printer > KDE control panel...07:57
casfindadHealot: I'm going to try registering a new Yahoo account. I have a yahoo account through my ISP, but I suspect it may not work for IM.07:58
Parkotronillmatik`: I don't have much experience with printers but I think you can do most everthing from the Printers module of "systemsettings".07:58
casfindadHealot: Give me a couple minutes and I'll see how this works.07:58
illmatik`got it, thanks!07:58
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physicsnickdumb question, how can i see how much free space i have on my separate vfat partition?07:59
Healotdf -mh07:59
physicsnickthanks08:00
Healotdf is fairly enough, but crypted coz it display in block size08:00
physicsnickany way for konqueror to tell me this information without having to open up a terminal?08:00
physicsnickalso, what does the -m tag do? it's not in the man page08:01
Parkotronillmatik`: Good night and good luck. You've been a pleasure to help.08:01
Parkotronphysicsnick: Displays info in MB rather than blocks.08:02
illmatik`thanks buddy08:02
illmatik`i appreciate it08:02
Healotphysicsnick, it works right?08:02
physicsnickyes08:04
physicsnickit works08:04
physicsnickbut i don't want to open a terminal every time i want to see my disk space08:04
physicsnickwhy can't konqueror just tell me when i'm browsing the drive?08:04
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physicsnickParkotron, -h displays in mb, not -m. i don't know what -m does.08:05
Healotphysicsnick, how about the media tree?08:05
Healotyou know the one folder that list your mounted medias?08:05
physicsnickyes, yes08:06
physicsnickthis is wierd08:06
Healotyou can check the disk space, by right clicking the icon08:06
physicsnicknow it's telling me the disk space when i right click and say properties on the mount point08:06
physicsnickbut if i go system menu -> storage media and right click on the drive and click properties, it doesn't work08:06
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physicsnickhmph08:06
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physicsnickright click on the partition i mean08:07
Healoton the media tree? physicsnick08:07
Healotbecause  system menu -> storage media points to the same place... it should werk08:07
physicsnickyes, it works on the media tree or if i right click on the mount point itself but it doesn't work on the partition in storage media08:09
physicsnickoh well, no matter08:10
physicsnicki'll just get rid of system menu08:10
physicsnickand replace it with my own links to my partitions08:10
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debatem1hey all, quick question, has anyone here gotten avrdude to work under wine?08:15
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debatem1rather, has anyone gotten avrstudio working under wine?08:16
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illmatik`hi guys, im trying to resize my two partitions (kubuntu and windows) using QTParted08:18
illmatik`i accidently made my kubuntu 80 gigs and my windows 20, when i want it the other way around08:18
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illmatik`but its not letting me resize those partitions08:18
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method|how do I install ksynaptics? it's not in my repos (i havent added any)08:19
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cpk2!info ksynaptics08:22
ubotuksynaptics: A KDE application to configure Synaptics TouchPad. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.4-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 908 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc kfreebsd-i386)08:22
cpk2method|: you need universe08:22
method|how do i enable universe?08:22
cpk2edit your sources.list08:22
cpk2!sourceomatic08:23
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:23
cpk2you can generate a sources list there08:23
cpk2!repos08:23
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:23
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cpk2might also have valuable information08:23
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method|i remember there being an easy way to enable universe in synaptic08:24
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cpk2i'm sure adept has an easy gui to enable it however i use apt-get so I am not familiar with adept gui08:27
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morghanphoenixWhat file do you use to check distro for karamba apps?08:31
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Dodgeryello08:37
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morghanphoenixanybody know how to set up the distro check in a karamba sys monitor?08:40
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arejayteewhy the hell does my network settings keep forgetting my dns server08:45
arejayteei set it click apply and then reset keeps it for awhile and then loses it08:46
Dodgerloses it as in, applies a new one?08:46
morghanphoenixThere, that solved it, just deleted the distro section of the code.08:46
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Dodgerarejaytee: what does cat /etc/resolv.conf give you?08:49
arejayteecurrently has both dns in it08:50
arejayteewill wait and see if it happens again and see what it contains then08:51
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Dodgerhere's my question: my nforce4 raid won't mount anymore since i upgraded to edgy... /dev/mapper is empty except for control, and dmraid -ay doesn't find the partitions...08:52
Dodgerany takers?08:52
cpk2Dodger: i think edgy questions are answered better in #ubuntu+108:54
Dodgerah... thankee :)08:54
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kolihi all09:00
kolihow do i change settings in kubuntu09:01
Smooph^^09:01
Smoophkoli: what settings ?09:01
koliany setting09:02
kolifor example09:02
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kolieffects09:02
kolilike the yast2 in suse09:02
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Smoophi am not sure what you mean but try the system settings09:04
kolii don;t have i09:04
kolihow can i find it09:04
Smoophopen the menu and look for system settings09:05
kolii don;t have it that;'s the problem09:06
kolimaybe it is not installed09:06
Smooph^^09:06
kolihow can i install iit09:06
Smoophyou use kde right09:07
koliyes09:07
kolii found it09:07
koliwhatever09:07
kolithe package its not installed09:08
koliim going to install it now09:08
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arejayteeDodger: u still there?09:11
arejayteeif i leave the network settings box open it stays, ive just closed it and it deletes it from the resolve.conf also09:12
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buzis there any kde vnc viewer in kubuntu?09:28
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MistaEDbuz: afaik, i think krdc is kde's vnc viewer09:30
buzright09:30
buzvery sensibly named09:31
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buzMistaED: thanks, that what i was looking for the whole time09:35
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morlaanybody here?10:01
Healotsure morla10:02
morlahi10:02
morlaI was wondering why m,y screensaver isn't working10:02
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morlait seems to be related to the restricted modules, nvidia driver10:03
morlawith nv it works; with nvidia not, and i also cannot change resolution, the kde display settings module is broken10:05
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arejayteefriggin azureus window is stuck open and i cant close the bastard10:09
arejayteethe warning box10:09
arejayteehow can i see active process to kill diff programs10:09
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KDEfanboyarejaytee: does CTRL-ESC bring up the process table? (i don't remember if it's default or i changed it)10:15
arejayteenada10:16
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arejayteeyeah it does sorry10:16
arejayteelappy running slow10:16
arejayteelol10:16
KDEfanboyarejaytee: ok. also if you want to kill a window's process, do CTRL+ALT+ESC , which will change the mouse cursor to a skull (dfeault) and then click the window10:17
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KDEfanboyESC or right-click will cancel the click-to-kill10:18
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DeMoNSeEdhello10:19
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arejayteesweet thanks KDEfanboy10:22
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arejayteeanyone able to help getting java going? ive installed it but firefox doesnt see it and azureus doesnt display its windows properly10:22
Healot!java10:23
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:23
Healotarejaytee, do you configure java yet?10:24
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Ranma2264Im getting an unhandled msn error 403 on Kopete trying to login to msn but I'm sure that my password is right anyone out there with the same issue?10:25
arejayteeno i had only just finished installing from thier site, but using the link given by ubotu now10:26
Healot403: Forbidden?10:26
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Ranma2264the message says unhandled msn error code 40310:27
Ranma2264Maybe something changed on msn protocol or maybe not im just guessing10:27
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Ranma2264and I have the latest kopete10:28
DeadSouLI downloaded Google Earth download file for linux which has .bin extension. How can I install it?10:30
Ranma2264chmod +x filename10:31
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Ranma2264and then sh filename as a user10:31
DeadSouLThanks a lot Ranma226410:31
Ranma2264no problem10:31
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Ranma2264and for system wide kdesu sh filename10:31
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MDCorehow do I get WEP working ??10:36
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daurnimatorhi all10:45
daurnimatoranyone around?10:45
daurnimator!sound10:46
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:46
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arejayteeanyone know of a ftp client that has ssl ?10:48
arejayteeim kinda suprised i cant find one for LINUX !10:48
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Healotfilezilla!10:51
Healotwith a bit of WINE it should work10:52
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frojndI have Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;  bit it wont install flash player. It allwasy announce that it can't becouse 64bit is not good..10:56
frojndbut*10:57
frojndI have 64bit processor and also kubuntu 6.10 je 64bit10:57
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main2i would like my server running kubuntu (whehehe:), to login to KDE automaticly10:58
main2so ive activated 'automatic login' for a certain user10:59
main2but it doesnt work, what things do i have to keep in mind?10:59
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avagantOk guys.11:05
main2Ok boy11:05
main2.11:05
rodhi!  i installed kubuntu on my laptop before and my wireless card was detected and worked fine, but i have reinstalled since and this time it wasn't picked up.  it's an intel wireless card (ipw3945 i think), is there some way i can just re-run whatever the installer does without re-installing the complete distro?  i asked in the ubuntu channel and was told about gnome-network-manager that it might help, is there a kde equivalent?11:05
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avagantHow might I ask, do you get into super user/root whatever when I'm not in the terminal to change files.11:05
main2rod: 'lcpci' < do you see the card?11:06
main2if so, then 'dmesg|grep ipw3945' ,and tell me what comes out11:06
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sarahhi11:06
main2avagant: kdesu11:07
avaganti just want to edit files, that's all.11:07
avaganthaha11:07
rodmain2: yes i think so, it comes up as - Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 4222 (rev 02)11:07
avagantbut is there anything i put after that?11:07
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main2rod: 'Unknown device 4222' the device driver did not load for this thing im afraid11:07
arejaytee_can someone send me a .txt of something please wanna test if i have router setup right11:07
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rodi found a project on sf.net about this driver but following the instructions didn't work for me, and i've heard that this is actually supported by dapper (well, i know it is as it worked for me before)11:07
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sarahwhat line do I need in /etc/fstab to automatically  mount  /dev/hda4  to  /home/mydir/foobar/   ?   It should be WRITEABLE mounted  also for me as user(!)  -  /dev/hda4  is  FAT3211:08
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Geani need help: on startup i get this weird window to "open file with" , the file is COMPIZ.SAVE11:08
main2avagant: if you make a shortcut on your desktop to 'kdesu kate' or kwrite11:08
GeanI get it every time on startup11:08
main2then you have a 'root' privileges editor11:08
Geanquite annoying11:08
main2Gean: thats because you have a file in ~/.kde/Autostart11:09
rodmain2: does this mean i have to find the right driver?  or that there's no hope?11:09
main2delete it, your not using XGL anyway i guess?11:09
main2rod: you need to find the right driver, but what did the grep output?11:09
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avagantoh so i would have to puut kdesu and then kate?11:10
Geanmain2 i like to use XGL, but i can't figure out how to install11:10
rodthe grep?  u mean the output of lspci?  that's what i posted, it's - Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 4222 (rev 02)11:11
Geani'm quite a Kubuntu-newby11:11
main2rod: here is the howto for you driver, make sure that you dont just type over the version numbers http://swm1.com/inspiron_e1505.html11:11
rodmain2: thanks a lot!11:11
main2Gean: that is obvious, but XGL is so alpha - that even i stopped using it :P11:11
main2open a console and type this:11:11
main2'cd ~/.kde/Autostart'11:11
main2'ls'11:12
main2now you see the compiz file..11:12
main2'rm nameofthescript' and it wont bother you any longer11:12
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Geanbash: cd: /home/jan/.kde/autostart: No such file or directory11:12
GeanHUH?11:12
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main2its case sensitive, use upper/lowercase11:15
main2*NIX (linux etc) is all case sensitive, make sure that you type it right..11:15
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main2im rb, need to change one setting..11:15
Geani see11:15
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Geanhow do i open a *.bin file? sorry for the noob-question ...11:22
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KDEfanboyGean: what do you mean by open it?11:23
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Geaninstall or something11:25
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Geanit's a file i downloaded to make a java vm in linux11:26
Geani suppose i should install something11:26
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Geanjava_ee_sdk-5-linux.bin on my desktop11:27
KDEfanboyGean: make sure it's executable first. either 'chmod u+x file.bin' in shell, or right click in Konqueror and go to properties. then execute it, with either ./file.bin or double click in konqueror/dekstop11:27
main2Gean: start using the konsole11:28
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Geanmain2 i opened console ...11:29
main2good, now start using it11:29
Geanwhat do you mean :p11:30
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main2Gean: read trough this http://www.math.mcgill.ca/services/linux_basics.php you lazy cheek11:30
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Geanhow wait11:31
Geani made it executable, and now i get an install wizard11:31
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Geanok, is anyone familiar with java?11:36
abattoirGean: what's the problem?11:37
Geanwell ... i guess i installed SDK11:37
abattoirinstead of the JRE?11:37
Geani don't know, i was told i had to install SDK11:37
abattoirGean: what do you need Java for?11:38
abattoirGean: are you planning on doing some Java development?11:38
Geanwell, i need it for school :p to make very simple programms11:38
abattoirGean: or do you just need to run a java application?11:38
Geandevelopment11:38
abattoirGean: ok, the SDK was right...11:38
abattoir*then11:38
abattoirsince you seem to be a beginner, an IDE might also help things a bit11:39
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GeanIDE ?11:39
abattoirGean: yes, an Integrated Development Environment11:39
abattoirGean: get either Eclipse or Netbeans11:39
Geanat school we are working with kate11:40
Geani'd like to do at home the same11:40
abattoirGean: ah ok, then use it :P11:40
Geanyeah but it doesn't know the java-commands11:40
arejayteeanyone got iglooftp pro? i need a ftp client that supports ssl11:40
abattoirkate comes preinstalled w/ Kubuntu11:40
Geanto run and compile a java-file11:40
Geanthat's why i was told to install SDK11:41
abattoirGean: how do you do it in school? your save the file in kate and then run a command?11:41
Geanyup11:41
abattoirarejaytee: i'd expect kbear or konqueror to do the job...11:41
abattoirGean: ok, you got sdk installed?11:42
Geanbut i was wondering, is there a major difference between kate and eclipse/netbeans?11:42
Geani thinks so yes11:42
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Geani got this binfile on my desktop, made it an executable, and ran it, got trough the installation wizard11:42
dudemeisterhiho! anyone of u using the fish shell?11:43
abattoirGean: ok, then should have gone through correctly, unless there was an error messagae11:43
Geannope, no error11:43
abattoirdudemeister: i use fish:/ in konqueror...11:43
abattoirGean: ok, that sounds good11:43
arejayteekonqueror doesnt do it properly for some reason ill try kbear11:43
abattoirGean: do you have the file opened in kate?11:43
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Geani have nog11:44
Geannow*11:44
dudemeisterabattoir: oh, what u mean in konqueror?11:44
abattoirGean: one sec11:44
Geanallright11:44
abattoirdudemeister: enter fish://name@domain.com in konqueror11:45
abattoirdudemeister: of course, replace that w/ your own name and domain11:45
M4X1MUMI got this message--> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16611:46
M4X1MUMwhat is the problem?11:46
abattoir!baddevice11:46
ubotubaddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.011:46
abattoirM4X1MUM: ^^^^ you can safely ignore it11:46
dudemeisterabattoir: has this anything to do with the fish shell???11:46
abattoirGean: ok, click on the little Terminal button at the bottom, in kate11:46
M4X1MUMooh ok11:46
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abattoirdudemeister: ok, sorry, my mistake, i thought you were referring to something ssh-based...11:47
Geanyes ...11:48
dudemeisterabattoir: that's ok. thx anyway :)11:48
Geani've been there, but it doenst accept my 'java'-commands like 'javac'11:48
abattoirGean: ok, then enter the command you use to compile the source(whatever was taught in your school)11:48
Geanbash: javac: command not found11:49
abattoirGean: hmm, wait a sec, then you didn't install it properly...11:49
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M4X1MUMis automatix a commonly used package?11:50
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abattoirGean: where is the j2sdk1.4.2.... directory?11:51
abattoirGean: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/install-linux.html#self-extracting11:52
abattoirGean: i know its almost the same as what you did...11:52
abattoirGean: but install it in a more global location, and export the path to javac11:52
Geani'll try this page11:53
Geanthanks anyway !11:53
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Geanbut hey11:54
Geanmy bin file has this name: java_ee_sdk-5-linux.bin11:54
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Geannothing like j2sdk-1_4_2_<version>-linux-i586.bin11:54
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abattoiri think you got the enterprise edition11:55
Geani see11:55
abattoiryou'd need the standard edition i think11:55
abattoirwhere did you get it from?11:55
Geanhttp://java.sun.com/javaee/downloads/index.jsp11:56
abattoirGean: were you aske to go there by any chance?11:56
abattoir*specifically asked to go there11:56
M4X1MUMhow do i know if nvidia driver have been installed or not?11:56
Geani posted my problem on a forum of our school, and a student posted this url11:57
abattoirGean: i dont know, maybe your school's curriculum is on the EE... might want to double check on that...11:58
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abattoirGean: if it's the EE, then you're on the right track... just export the path to javac, and you are done11:58
Geanhow do i export the path to javac?11:59
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abattoirhttp://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html has EE and SE stuff, weird12:00
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Geanon this page i suppose i need to download J2SE SDK ?12:00
abattoirGean: find where javac is in that folder12:01
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abattoirGean: well, as i said, you might want to clarify first... if your school teaches EE, then i might be wrong12:01
Geanj2sdk-1_4_2_<version>-linux-i586.bin12:02
Geanwait12:02
Geanjavac is in SUNWappserver/jdk/bin12:02
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abattoirhmm, i think in the SE its under Sun.../bin/javac'12:03
abattoirGean: export PATH="$PATH:<enter path here>/javac"12:04
Geanallright, i'll get the SE12:04
abattoirGean: ^^^that's the command to export the path12:04
Geanin konsole?12:04
abattoirmm, yes12:04
Geani might look stupid, but i don't understand what you are telling me te do12:05
Geani'm just new on linux,12:06
Geanthat's probably why12:06
Geanbut i'm off to lunch12:06
Geani'll try the SE when i get back12:06
Geanthanks for all12:06
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abattoirGean: when you enter the 'javac' command, 'Bash'(or the thing which handles all this) does not know where to look for it12:07
octananyone running firefox 2 beta :P12:07
abattoirGean: so you are manually 'exporting' the path, telling it where to find javac12:07
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abattoirGean: and while installing the SDK, follow the official Installation instructions in the Sun site12:08
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abattoirGean: copy it the bin to somewhere like /usr/java(make it if it doesn't exist, 'sudo mkdir /usr/java'12:08
abattoirGean: then extract it as root inside that directory12:08
abattoir(just prefix sudo to the extraction command, one you are in that directory)12:09
abattoirGean: then you'd need to export the path to /usr/java/j2sd..../bin/javac, and you should be good to go :012:09
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octanput the path to java in ld.conf.so :P12:10
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arejayteewhats a good cd/dvd image viewer ?12:21
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arejayteeiso and so forth to open them instead of burning12:21
abattoirarejaytee: ark might handle it... not sure12:22
abattoirarejaytee: or you could mount the iso12:22
arejayteehrmm good idea12:22
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octanyea mount the iso12:23
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klingsorcpl-tnt44: Are you online?12:23
arejayteeim guessing i cant do with a context menu lol12:23
octanmount -o loop /file.iso /path12:23
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arejaytee./file.iso: No such file or directory12:27
arejayteesudo mount -o loop /file.iso /files/iso/new.iso12:28
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abattoirarejaytee: i actually remember seeing a service menu for it over at kde-apps ;12:31
abattoir;)12:31
abattoirhttp://www.kde-apps.org/conten12:32
abattoirhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1157712:32
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arejayteethanks12:36
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Geanabattoir: i installed SDK SE12:43
Geanstandard it is extracted to my desktop12:43
arejayteeabattoir: that shell script is sweet12:44
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arejayteecept it aint work for me lol12:44
Geanabattoir: you told me to make a new folder un "usr" but i can't, permission denied12:45
zorglu_wow just tried krename... doesnt seem easy to rename file with it :)12:45
M4X1MUMalright people, how do i create a partition? I already delete a partition using qtparted, but the create option is not enabled12:45
zorglu_M4X1MUM: select an empty space/partition to enable it ?12:46
M4X1MUMi know that, its not working12:46
M4X1MUMmkft.ext3 doesnt work either12:46
zorglu_i think you know too much for me :)12:46
M4X1MUM:(12:47
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morghanphoenix!restricted formats12:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:50
Geanhow can i make a new folder in "usr" ?12:50
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Geani always got "permission denied"12:51
zorglu_Gean: "mkdir yourname"12:52
zorglu_"sudo mkdir yournamefolder"12:52
Geanyeah12:52
Geanallright, how do i make it accessible, so i can copy files into it?12:52
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zorglu_man mkdir12:53
zorglu_man chown12:54
zorglu_man chmod12:54
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zorglu_thhis will give you the basic of file right management in unix12:54
Geanzorglu_: i don't get the last part12:55
Geansuppose the folder's name is Java12:55
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ubuntuI get this when trying to install kubuntu: "could not install bootloader01:13
ubuntuand after mounting and checking01:13
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ubuntuthere is no /boot/grub folder ..01:13
ubuntuwhatsup?01:13
ninHerhi all01:13
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ubuntuthere are only  a few *.386 files in the /boot01:14
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llukahey does anyone know how to install the drivers for an intel 945g?01:15
n3stormlluka: from what I know the module is already installed in dapper01:16
n3stormi90001:16
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llukahmm odd koz i cant change my screen res past 1024x76801:17
belelluka: I guess it works out-of-box01:17
belelluka: you should instaa package 915resoltuion01:17
llukalemme look for that01:17
llukaok installed01:18
llukaim unfamiliar with this... do i have to restart x?01:18
belelluka: yes01:19
llukak brb01:19
beleand before that01:19
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M4X1MUM!dapper01:22
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"01:22
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ubuntupossible to install grub if /boot/grub doesn't exist?01:25
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MenZa!grub > ubunt01:26
MenZa!grub > ubuntu01:26
MenZathere we go.01:26
ubuntuI tried istalling using the howto from the forums, but that requires /boot/grub to be present01:26
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ubuntuMenZa: no, those require that /boot/grub be present01:27
ubuntuI tried boot floppies01:27
MenZaubuntu: oh?01:27
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MenZa!info grub01:27
ubotugrub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB01:27
llukahow do i use 915resolution?01:27
belelluka: easiest is to reboot01:28
llukajust did01:28
belelluka: and it didnt work?01:28
llukai dont see any other res in my control panel01:28
llukabut im thinking i can do it from the terminal01:28
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belelluka: it should automatically work with your screens navite resolution01:29
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llukawell, im not in kde, maybe thats why01:30
llukaim using enlightenment01:30
belelluka:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver?highlight=%28915%2901:30
llukathnx01:31
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llukahey im using 915resolution but it makes my screen flicker01:44
llukaand turn off01:44
Linux_Galore?? @ 91501:45
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llukaim trying to change my resolution past 1024x76801:45
Morticelluka: I assume you mean you're passing vga=915 to the kernel at boot time. when exactly does your screen flicker? when X starts, or during the bootup process?01:45
llukawhen x restarted01:46
llukanot at boot time i havent added that yet01:46
Morticelluka: well, what do you mean by 915resolution?01:46
llukaits an application01:46
llukait replaces resolution with another01:47
Morticelluka: what's wrong with kubuntu's programs for that?01:47
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llukakubuntu wont let me go past a certain res01:47
Morticeoh, i see, this appears to be an intel 915 chipset thing01:47
llukayah01:48
llukai think the problem is the monitor tho01:48
lluka:S01:48
Linux_Galorelluka: always manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file01:48
Morticelluka: i'm afraid i have no experience with 915 chipsets, but have you tried enabling other resolutions by doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?01:48
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Linux_Galorelluka: the 915 chipset doesnt define the resolution your monitor does01:49
llukahmm01:49
llukawell it lists modes i can choose01:49
llukalemme try reconfiguring xorg01:49
Linux_Galorelluka: look for the line DefaultColorDepth01:50
Linux_Galorelluka: in my case its 2301:50
Linux_Galore24 sorry01:50
llukahmm ok01:50
thygrrrCan I somehow tell Konqueror to automagically try "www.hostname.tld" if "hostname.tld" alone doesn't work?01:50
Linux_Galorethen I look further down for Subsection "Display" , Depth 2401:51
Linux_Galorethe following line sets my default resolution Virtual 1280 102401:51
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Linux_Galorelluka: change that to what you want it to be01:52
llukaim afraid to do this because it might not come back on :S01:53
Linux_Galorelluka: well make a copy of the xorg.conf  file call it xorg.conf_back01:54
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Linux_Galorelluka: if X fails just rename the back file to the original name and delete the modified file01:54
Linux_Galorelluka: you can test it before you logout01:55
Linux_Galorejust in case01:55
Linux_Galorelluka: press ctrl alt F1  login then type  xinit /usr/bin/startkde -- :101:55
Linux_Galorelluka: should start a new X session with the new resolution01:56
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Linux_Galorelluka: to kill it press ctrl alt backspace and to go back to your original desktop press ctrl alt F601:56
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Linux_Galorelluka: Linux can suppoer multiple graphical sessions at the same time01:57
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Linux_Galoresupport*01:57
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Linux_Galorethygrrr: konqueror should automatically already do that02:00
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llukathanks guys the xorg.conf editing worked!02:08
lluka:)02:08
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Linux_Galorelluka: we aim to please02:12
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llukaanyone know where i can find the doom iwad?:p02:15
_ikkei,lluka02:16
_ikkhow du you du02:16
thygrrrLinux_Galore, nope, my konqueror doesn't do it (anymore?). That's why I'm asking.02:17
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Knifawhen i try to install kubuntu onto my computer, the live boot cd dies at mounting root system and the alternative cd refuses to detect my cd-drive02:22
Knifawhat should i do D:02:22
Knifaget another cd drive?02:22
Linux_Galorethygrrr: Settings->Configure Konqueror  goto web shortcuts  and define one02:23
klingsorKnifa: other drive is a good choice...02:23
Knifai'll give it a try02:23
klingsorKnifa: Had a similar problem once02:23
Knifai tried it last night but it wouldn't POST. i didn't check the pins so it was probably that02:23
Knifaand i just went to bed.02:23
Knifai'll go give it a try now02:24
Knifa:302:24
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Knifasame deal02:32
Knifa:02:32
Knifa:/02:32
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Knifadies at mounting root system02:33
Knifaor whatever02:33
Knifai think its' my mobo02:33
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IndyBCHow can I change the song information (artist, album etc) about a .mp3 file?02:34
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KDEfanboyIndyBC: in amarok, right click the file and select 'Track Information...'02:36
[GuS] Bonjour02:38
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KDEfanboy!fr02:38
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:39
elias_I know this is the wrong place but the ubuntu guys don't seem to know: Does anybody know how to print to PDF in gnome?02:39
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ArRiEsP17ola02:47
KDEfanboy!es02:48
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:48
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ArRiEsP17ok sorry02:50
KDEfanboynp02:50
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tomek_Cze02:52
KDEfanboy!cz02:52
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.02:52
tomek_mam pyatnie apropos firewalla02:53
tomek_jakiego uywacie ??02:53
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tomek_do Kubuntu02:53
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KDEfanboyi have no idea02:54
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KDEfanboy:)02:54
tomek_:)02:54
tomek_what firewall do you use on Kubuntu ??02:55
sudharshtomek_: firestarter, afaik, kubuntu is fine by itself...02:56
tomek_hmmm02:56
KDEfanboy!firewall02:56
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)02:56
tomek_ok I understand02:57
beleor GuardDog for firewall cong02:57
octanhey can i run google earth in amd64 ?02:57
tomek_already I have guarddog on system02:57
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tomek_but it doesn ;t work02:58
tomek_I don;t know what is a problem02:58
beletomek_: really? should work :)02:58
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tomek_really ...02:59
tomek_may I use a firestarter ??03:00
tomek_on Kubuntu ??03:00
[GuS] tomek_, yes03:01
klingsortomek_: why not?03:01
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tomek_I think that Gnome's program .................:)03:02
[GuS] tomek_, and?03:02
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[GuS] QT handles very well GTK apps03:02
[GuS] more than GTK could with QT...03:02
tomek_and,... I don t know :))03:02
[GuS] tomek_, you could install i will work very well03:03
drbeamsis there a way to pull system info as in mobo model, or nic model # from the pc in kubuntu with a live disc ?03:03
[GuS] nothing have to do that is an "gnome" app...03:03
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tomek_ok thanks03:03
[GuS] drbeams, in console, lspci03:03
tomek_bye03:03
[GuS] or just in K-menu, System, KInfoCenter03:04
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v3ctordoes the livecd have lshw ?03:06
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dragonfire1gm03:09
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diswillhello everyone. I seem to have lost sound recently. would someone help me get sound working again?03:09
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spriethi03:10
diswillhi spriet03:10
sprieti  installed first kubuntu and then Suse and no i like to mount the partition witch contains Suse somone can helb me?03:11
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diswillI do the mounting by editing the /ect/fstab03:12
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sprietk thx03:14
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dragonfire1Where would you find to edit teh /etc/fstab in the kernal command to do that sorry newbie trying to partion also03:16
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octan!amd6403:16
ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.03:16
octan!amd64 google eart03:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amd64 google eart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:16
octan!google earth amd6403:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google earth amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:16
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octancrapy bot03:17
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main2octan: stupid you :p03:20
main2http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper03:20
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octanmain2, you mean http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Google_Earth03:21
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octanit suxz03:21
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grizzlyurgh the kubuntu installer is so buggyyyyy!!!03:23
main2octan: UTFS :D03:23
grizzlyone cannot install with xfs partition03:23
main2grizzly: just use normal ext3, its the best03:23
grizzlymain2: just want to play with it03:24
grizzlyhave a look03:24
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gnomefreakgrizzly: might try using the alternate installer for that03:25
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grizzlygnomefreak: the alternate cd u mean?03:25
gnomefreakyes03:25
gpkumaran@everyone, please tell me info about installing packages03:25
octanmain2, what are you talking about03:25
gnomefreak!adept > gpkumaran03:25
gnomefreakgpkumaran: read your m from ubotu03:26
grizzlygnomefreak: that I can't @ 64kbps03:26
grizzlybut nvmind03:26
gnomefreaks/m/pm03:26
main2octan: im telling you to use the fuckin search =)03:26
grizzlyheres the bug report with a solution: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugs/2006-June/231189.html03:26
gnomefreakmain2: watch your language03:26
main2!friendly03:26
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about friendly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:26
octanmain2, i did and i dont find anything about it03:26
grizzly!being friendly03:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about being friendly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:27
grizzlylol03:27
octan!stfu03:27
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.03:27
ArRiEsP17xao gnt03:27
gpkumaranthank you gnomefreak.03:27
gnomefreakyw gpkumaran03:27
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main2octan: http://www.ubuntux.org/install-google-earth-on-amd64-via-chroot03:28
rbrunhuberhi all03:29
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gpkumarangnomefreak: i tried to install yahoo messenger package with right click-->Kubuntu package menu--> install package03:30
gpkumaran@gnomefreak, but it said that it depends on some other packages03:31
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gnomefreakgpkumaran: there a yahoo messanger app in kubuntu?03:31
gnomefreakmessenger*03:31
gnomefreakgpkumaran: sudo apt-get install packagename     replace package name with the name of the package03:32
tomek_hi, I have one guestions about nvidia03:32
octanmain2, it doesnt worj03:32
gnomefreaktomek_: go for it03:32
octan.......Extraction failed.03:32
octan.Signal caught, cleaning up03:32
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tomek_what may I install ??03:33
gnomefreaktomek_: nvidia-glx03:33
main2octan: ur download is broken dude03:33
gpkumaranwhen i tried installing those packages, it says that they depend on some other packages and so on...03:33
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gpkumaranwhat can i do?03:33
tomek_I have Nvidia 5200 FX T03:33
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octanmain2, i downloaded it 2 times now03:33
gnomefreakgpkumaran: are you using dapper?03:33
gpkumaranyes03:33
gnomefreaktomek_: thats the right package the nvidia-glx03:33
main2'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'03:33
tomek_legacy ??03:33
gnomefreakgpkumaran: can you paste the output of the command to pastebin03:34
main2type in konsole..03:34
gnomefreaktomek_: no03:34
tomek_ok03:34
tomek_tkanks03:34
gnomefreakfor the 5200 its nvidia-glx03:34
tomek_ok03:34
gpkumarangnomefreak: sorry for being so childish... :-) how can i pastebin03:35
gnomefreak!pastebin03:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:35
gpkumaran!pastebin03:36
gpkumarangpkumaran@gpkumaran-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb03:36
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gpkumaran(Reading database ... 65393 files and directories currently installed.)03:36
gpkumaranPreparing to replace ymessenger 1.0.4_1 (using ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb) ...03:36
gnomefreakgpkumaran: just use the link ubotu gave you03:36
gpkumaranUnpacking replacement ymessenger ...03:36
gpkumarandpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:03:36
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gnomefreakgpkumaran: stop pasting please03:36
gpkumaran ymessenger depends on libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0); however:03:36
gpkumaran  Package libgdk-pixbuf2 is not installed.03:36
gpkumaran ymessenger depends on libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:03:36
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gpkumaran!pastebin03:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:40
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WinUninstall possibile ridimensione una partizione NTFS?03:42
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gpkumarangnomefreak: can i install debian packages in ubuntu03:45
main2sudo dpkg -i file.deb03:45
main2gpkumaran: but do not use packages from the debian repository03:45
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insanekane 03:46
hyperhello abattoir03:46
abattoirhi hyper :)03:46
gnomefreakgpkumaran: please dont use debian repos03:46
abattoir!fr03:46
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:46
abattoirWinUninstall: ^^^^03:46
hyperabattoir: Just a small question: how can I disable kmix from starting?03:46
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WinUninstallops03:47
abattoirWinUninstall: you want to resize your NTFS partition?03:47
WinUninstallSorry03:47
gpkumaranmain2: i have already installed certain packages from the debian site(i dunno whats meant by repos)03:47
WinUninstallabattoir, Yes03:47
hyperabattoir: I rebooted twice and both times kmix used up all cpu03:47
gpkumaransorry i`m a newbie03:47
abattoirhyper: that's weird03:47
WinUninstallabattoir, I've readed about ntfsprogs03:47
hyperresizing ntfs partition: get Partition Magic from PowerQuest03:47
abattoirWinUninstall: i'd recommend doing it from Windows03:48
WinUninstallhybrid, It cost...03:48
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gpkumaranmain2: then where can i find ubuntu packages. what about the debian packages i already installed03:48
WinUninstallabattoir, How?03:48
rbrunhuberis there a "preferred application" gui in kubuntu like in ubuntu?03:48
abattoirWinUninstall: i think there are shareware/demo applications, which might be helpful03:48
main2gpkumaran: how did you install them?03:48
abattoirWinUninstall: using one of thse Partitioning programs ;)03:49
main2gpkumaran:  did you add the debian repository to your list?03:49
WinUninstallabattoir, OK03:49
WinUninstallI will try with gparted03:49
main2gpkumaran: use adept from 'system' in the kde menu to install software03:49
gpkumaranmain2: by right clicking-->Kubuntu package menu-->install03:49
hyperrbrunhuber: There is: KDE Button --> System Settings --> Default Applications03:49
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abattoirhyper: do you have session management on?03:50
hyperWinUninstall: Well, you could get a crack for PM....03:50
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hyperabattoir: Well I guess so... it's a default Edgy install and it keeps starting up the same proggies03:50
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abattoirhyper: ok, did you try closing it when logging out?03:51
abattoirhyper: please refrain from that here, thanks :)03:51
hyperabattoir: I just killed the process "kill -9 pid"03:51
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rbrunhuber@hyper: i have no system settings menu. and in system settings their is no default applications button03:52
abattoirrbrunhuber: are you on Kubuntu?03:53
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rbrunhuberyes i am03:53
abattoirrbrunhuber: there is no System Settings entry in the Menu?03:53
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Mochitogood morning03:54
main2gpkumaran: use 'adept' or 'apt' to install software, and do not install packages from other distro's03:54
rbrunhuberabattoir: i just found it but it is not in system settings i have to call kcontrol from the console03:54
gpkumaranmain2: are the programs in windows same as packages in ubuntu03:54
abattoirrbrunhuber: System settings and Kcontrol have the same modules03:54
rbrunhuberabattoir: not here03:55
main2gpkumaran: what are you talking about?03:55
main2linux != windows03:55
abattoirrbrunhuber: anyways, go to KDE Components->Default Associations(or some variation of that)03:55
Mochitoi dont' know man03:55
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rbrunhuberabattoir: thank you i already found it03:55
abattoirrbrunhuber: well, it should be on the menu, unless it was accidentally(or intentionally) removed03:55
gpkumaranmain2: i`m very sorry. i already told you that i`m a newbie.03:55
Mochitoi wanna know how can i install a package03:56
Mochito?03:56
hypermochito: what package?03:56
hypermochito: there are different ways :)03:56
Dr_willisMochito,  fire up adept, search, click, install.03:56
main2gpkumaran: np03:56
hyperrbrunhuber - can you put a screenshot online?03:57
rbrunhuberabattoir: i have system-settings in the menu. i just thougth it ought to be a menu not a application.03:57
gpkumaranmain2: i just wanna know what should i do if i wanna install another program like opera or firefox03:57
main2start adept03:57
Dr_willis-->   fire up adept, search, click, install.03:57
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Dr_willis:)03:57
main2(in the kde menu, click on system - then 'adept' > enter your password)03:57
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Dr_willisor use that add/remove program icon.03:57
gpkumaranmain2: actually whats a package. is it same as a setup file in windows03:57
hyperor use aptitude or apt-get03:57
main2gpkumaran: you could compare if you want, but packages are way better then stupid setup.exe files03:58
Dr_willispackage systems are WAY WAY better then setup.exe files...03:58
rbrunhuberhyper: i solved it already thank you. I sometimes just get a little confuses because i have way to many apps installed (having both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed)03:58
main2there are also packages containing sourcecode of the program03:58
Dr_willisits sad when i download 5+ programs for windows.. and they all come named  'setup.exe'03:58
Dr_willisand then those 5 programs have to have some sort of 'update' feature/systemtrayicon for updates... which is ALSO a feature handled by the package managers. :)03:59
Mochitocan i install karamba in Kubuntu??04:00
Dr_willisthen those 5 progrms also have to put in 'uninstall' icons  normally in their own menus, and in the add/remove programs tool.. which is also handled by the package manager. :P04:00
abattoirMochito: karamba or superkaramba?04:00
Dr_willis!info karamba04:00
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ubotukaramba: A program improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-5.1build1 (dapper), package size 68 kB, installed size 308 kB04:00
Dr_willis!info superkaramba04:00
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB04:00
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gpkumaranmain2: ok. now i wanna install a ftp program for kubuntu. where can i find one and how to install it04:00
Dr_willis!ftp04:01
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd04:01
Dr_williskonqueror the  default file manager can handle ftp..04:01
niroxxhow can i change the size of the desktopicons ?04:01
Dr_willisor install kbear if you like.04:01
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Dr_willis!info kbear04:01
ubotukbear: graphical ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-13ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2401 kB, installed size 8604 kB04:01
gpkumaranfrom where can i download these(gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd)04:02
main2gpkumaran: type 'kbear' in adept -> in the searchbar04:02
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main2it will popup, rightclick and install it04:02
main2have you found adept meanwhile?04:02
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emonkey-p!kbeat > emonkey-p04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbeat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
emonkey-p!kbear > emonkey-p04:03
gpkumaranyes i have found adept and opened it04:03
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niroxxHow can i change the size of the desktopicons ?04:03
emonkey-p!kbear > niroxx04:03
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niroxxoh04:03
niroxxthanks04:04
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gpkumarannow when i type kbear and press enter. nothing happens04:04
main2gpkumaran: try to find out what adept is, and how it works04:04
main2gpkumaran: you have to wait a minute04:04
gpkumaran!ftp04:04
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd04:04
main2stop it04:05
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Sanne_I would also add kftpgrabber to the ftp client lists. I tested it once and it seemed pretty nice. http://www.kftp.org/misc/screenshots04:07
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gpkumarangnomefreak: welcome back. suppose i want to find and install a ftp client in kubuntu 6.06 what shud i do04:12
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gnomefreakgpkumaran: apt-cache search ftp  and see one that sounds good im not sure what good ones kubuntu has04:12
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Sanne_gpkumaran: consider my suggestion above, or just use konqueror.04:14
gnomefreakgpkumaran: try kasablanca04:14
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gpkumarangnomefreak: it says could not run the specified command04:14
gpkumaranwhere can i get kasablanca04:14
gnomefreakgpkumaran: what command did you use (i just ran it fine)04:14
gnomefreak!info kasablanca04:14
ubotukasablanca: a FTP client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 157 kB, installed size 600 kB04:14
gnomefreakgpkumaran: the universe repo04:15
abattoirgnomefreak: i dont even think he has it installed04:15
gnomefreakabattoir: has what installed?04:15
abattoirany ftp client, when you said kasablanca, he just tried executing the command04:15
gnomefreakah04:15
gnomefreakgpkumaran: sudo apt-get install kasablanca04:15
abattoirgpkumaran: people have already told you what to do...04:15
DaSkreechOh!04:15
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gpkumarangnomefreak: apt -cache search ftp04:15
gnomefreakno space04:16
DaSkreechWhat's the mediamanager?04:16
gnomefreakapt-cache search ftp04:16
gnomefreakgpkumaran: the other guys would know better what ones are good on kubuntu04:16
gnomefreakim hacking at gnome right now but later i might end up on kubuntu04:16
DaSkreechMy friend keeps trying media:/ and gets mediamanager not running04:16
omardo you know games for xubuntu , like spider or sol, how can I get 'em ive tried apt-get install kgames, ksol, but nothing04:17
DaSkreechomar: try not using the k :)04:17
Dr_willisdefind 'nothing'04:17
DaSkreechThose are X or gnome games04:17
DaSkreech!doesn't work04:17
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.04:17
Dr_willisuse adept. search, click, install , enjoy. :P04:17
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omarDaSkreech: you mean synaptic04:28
omarDr_Willis: yuo mean synaptic04:28
DaSkreechomar: Nope I mean you are installing ksol etc when you are looking for a non KDE application04:28
omarDaSkreech: I just need the games, kde, g , no problem which04:29
DaSkreechAh ok :)04:29
DaSkreechThen apt-get away04:29
DaSkreechmight want to try kpat as well04:29
rbrunhuberdoes anyone have the problem to kaddressbook/kontact does not show umlauts in vcards04:30
omarDaSkreech: come on, please04:30
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rbrunhuberto=too04:30
omarDaSkreech: ok, like apt-get kpat04:30
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install kpat04:30
admin__Poland rulez04:30
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admin__Whats the topic?04:32
DaSkreechtry typing /topic04:33
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chxXorg eats 97% of my system, what could cause this? What log ifle should I read?04:35
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power91siemka04:36
TheGeekany experienced users around?04:36
DaSkreechchx: I guess /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:36
DaSkreechTheGeek: Nope You'll have to make do with us :)04:36
power91see you04:36
DaSkreechpower91: Hi04:36
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admin__POLSKA04:37
TheGeekalright da;04:38
chxHUH! Skype 1.3 caused this04:38
TheGeekhow do you change icons in kubentu04:38
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omarthanks04:39
Almad|NotebookTheGeek: in control panel04:39
admin__hello there=D04:40
TheGeekwhere cani get new themes?04:40
abattoirTheGeek: kde-look.org04:40
chxDaSkreech: http://pastebin.ca/189888 this was found in /var/log/messages04:40
Almad|NotebookHi, i'm trying to install kinterbasdb 3.2 on Kubuntu...however, no package is available; I'm trying to build it from source, but there are strange errors in building Python-C bindings...any ideas for that or anybody knew of deb package?04:40
TheGeekalmad: have you updated your python?04:41
Almad|NotebookTheGeek: to what? Using 2.4, there should be no problem04:42
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TheGeekyou are right04:43
TheGeekwhat errors are you getting04:43
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DaSkreechchx: Looks like kernel stuff04:43
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chxOK04:44
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Almad|Notebookhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25585/04:45
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gpkumaran!pastebin04:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:45
Knifamy mobo haet cubuntu04:45
Knifaerr04:45
Knifakubuntu04:45
Knifa:(04:45
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Almad|NotebookTheGeek: hopefully all required -dev packages should be installed04:46
gpkumarananyone know if theres any application for controlling nokia phones(like pc suite)04:46
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TheGeekgoogle it gp04:46
Knifacan i install kubuntu/ubuntu through windows some how?04:47
Knifathe installer itself won't detect my cd drive for some unknown reason04:47
Knifadespite getting into the bootloader from it.04:48
TheGeektry buring a new image04:48
Knifait's the same deal with two of the cds i have04:48
Knifathe livecd one and the alternative one04:48
DaSkreechKnifa: Live Cd ?04:48
Knifai've also tried with 2 diffrent drives04:48
DaSkreechAh ok04:48
TheGeekwhich version are you using04:48
Knifalatest04:48
DaSkreechdid you do a md5 sum on the ISO?04:48
DaSkreechEdgy beta?04:49
Knifanot a beta no04:49
Knifawell i don't think so04:49
Knifahowever04:49
Admiral_Chicago6.06?04:49
Knifathe same disc just installer perfectly on another computer04:49
Knifayeah 6.0604:49
Knifai think it might be my motherboard.04:49
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TheGeektry installing 5.10 and then upgrade04:49
Knifait won't actualyl boot into the installer at all though.04:50
Knifabut sure okay.04:50
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TheGeekhave you checked your boot device priority04:50
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Knifayes04:50
Knifait boots to the bit where it asks you to install it04:50
Knifawith the alternative cd atleast04:50
Knifai do that04:50
Knifait goes for a bit04:50
Knifathen says it can't detect my CD drive04:50
Knifathe live cd gets to mounting root system then dies.04:51
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TheGeektry the 5.10cd04:51
Knifakay04:51
Knifadownloading now04:51
Knifai still think it might be my motherboard04:52
Knifait has some weird SATA compatability stuff that makes it come up as IDE04:52
pumukyhay alguien de espaa04:52
Knifaand turning it off doesn't seem to do anything useful04:52
TheGeeki have an idea04:52
Knifayeah?04:53
TheGeekif even 5.10 doesn't work04:53
TheGeektry using the knoppix live cd04:53
Knifa*terror*04:53
TheGeekthey are both debain based04:53
Sanne_Knifa: which motherboard is it?04:53
KnifaGigabye 965P-DS304:53
Knifa*Gigabyte04:53
Knifafor core 2 duos04:53
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sF|Xemanthis it possible that i could break my whole dapper drake with edgy dist-upgrade ? :D04:55
Sanne_Knifa: I'm looking through applicable links listed here, maybe you mboard turns up somewhere: http://www.linux-drivers.org/04:55
rbrunhubersF|Xemanth: this is software so this is always possible04:56
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KnifaSanne_ i just googled for my motherboard model number and ubuntu04:57
Knifait seems people are having problems with drives04:57
Knifalike me04:57
KnifaThe 2.6.18 kernel (which is still in beta as of August 23, 2006) incorporates a fix for this problem. To fix this problem on 2.6.17 a patch could be used.04:57
Knifamabye i should try the latest beta?04:57
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TheGeekmaybe you should04:58
HawkwindKnifa: 2.6.18 has gone final about a week ago04:58
HawkwindLinux Britannia 2.6.18-01 #1 SMP Wed Sep 20 08:00:45 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux04:58
HawkwindHence why I'm running it :)04:58
Knifai will try the beta then04:58
Sanne_Knifa: ah, maybe you need to, if the standard kernel doesn't support your hardware correctly.04:58
Knifayeah04:58
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TheGeekbetter luck next time04:59
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Knifaah i can do that04:59
Knifaor use knoppix05:00
Knifaor a usb thumbstick05:00
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TheGeekya do some research and Destruction05:00
Knifaah apperntly the latest beta doesn't work either05:01
TheGeekwhen did you get the system05:01
Knifaa few days ago05:01
TheGeekno wonder05:01
sF|XemanthNew init system, Upstart <- i wonder how that works from dapper upgrade ^^05:02
KnifaTheGeek what do you mean?05:02
TheGeekwhat is the basic diff between EdGY and Drapper05:02
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TheGeekyou a got a new system05:02
HawkwindKnifa: I have a great how-to for compiling/building the kernels from kernel.org, even have a script that does it for you automatically05:02
hyperabbatoir?05:02
Sanne_Knifa: do you also search in the ubuntuforums? Maybe you get some more info.05:03
Knifai found a wiki entry on it05:03
rbrunhubersF|Xemanth: I made a dapper upgrade to edgy where edgy still used init and it worked flawlessly05:03
Knifahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support05:03
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Knifai need to do it through another live cd05:03
Sanne_Knifa: ah05:03
Knifaor a thumb drive (which i don't have)05:03
TheGeekthen try it with a live Cd05:03
Knifayeah i am going to05:04
TheGeekanyway where are u frm: Knifa05:04
hyperanyone knows how to "autostart" programs into a specific workspace?05:04
Knifascotland05:04
Sanne_Knifa: wow, what a nice wiki entry. I'm contiually amazed about the community resources.05:04
TheGeeksince when have you been using linux05:04
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Knifai don't usually05:05
Knifai'm installing it on another hard drive to check it otu05:05
TheGeekyou05:05
TheGeekare in my league05:05
Sanne_Knifa: ahhh, I've been to Scotland once and *loved* it!05:05
Knifai've used it before though05:05
Knifaand my dedicated server runs debian05:05
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TheGeekso anyone knows how can i install new themes05:06
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TheGeekon kubuntu05:06
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Knifaoh apperntly the latest beta does work for my board05:07
Knifahurray!05:07
TheGeekgreat05:07
TheGeeklong live the Beta05:07
Sanne_Knifa: wonderful05:07
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TheGeekdo you know how to install a new theme05:08
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Knifai don't :(05:09
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TheGeekanyone else over here knows?????????!!!!05:09
MDCoreTheGeek: try asking in #kde05:09
TheGeekthx05:09
Sanne_TheGeek: I remember it was pretty easy, it's somewhere in the kontrol center.05:09
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HawkwindTheGeek: Download them from kde-look.org and then install them from within kcontrol under Look & Appearance05:10
TheGeeki'll try05:11
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couquinouxfranais?05:18
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Hawkwind!fr05:19
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:19
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TheGeekhey can i try to install gnome too05:23
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dhqi have the source of xorg 7.1 how do i build it i hit command sudo ./configure05:30
dhqthen what do i do05:30
trappistyou don't sudo ./configure05:31
arafatdhq: usually type: 'make' then 'sudo make install'05:32
trappistbut if you want xorg 7.1, this might be a good time to install edgy.  installing from source is going to cause you problems.05:32
dhqtrappist: i wanna take the risk05:32
TheGeekbye guys05:32
dhqmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.05:32
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trappistdhq: it's not taking a risk - it *will* cause problems.  upgrading to edgy is a risk, but a sane one.05:33
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trappistand then you get xorg 7.1 for free05:34
kumsyhelp regarding installing packages05:34
dhqtrappist: well thats like 20 days more to wait which i cant wait05:34
dhqwanna try x7.105:34
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octanHey guys i need help05:36
octanim trying to install google earth05:36
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octani have a amd64 with kubuntu amd64 installed05:37
octani got firefox2 beta ,flash and java working05:37
octanbut when i try to install google earth i get this error05:37
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octan.......Extraction failed.05:37
octan.Signal caught, cleaning up05:37
octanermm05:38
octannuxil@Nuxil:~$ sudo sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin05:38
octanPassword:05:38
octanVerifying archive integrity... All good.05:38
octanUncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.0.2091.....05:38
octanthen05:38
octan.......Extraction failed.05:38
octan.Signal caught, cleaning up05:38
octani thought that i was a corrupt download05:39
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octanbut,, i tryed downloading it like 5 times05:39
octanboth with wget and firefox05:39
kumsyhow to solve dependency problems? from where can i download kdelibs4  libqt3c102-mt libssl0.9.705:40
dhqis there a guide to install xserver7.1 from sources05:40
octanand i have to set up a chrooted 32 bit jail following some wikis but that didnt help05:40
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octanplease help.. im open for ideas here05:42
Hawkwinddhq: Why exactly are you wanting to install xorg-7.1 anyways ?05:42
Hawkwindoctan: Isn't there a deb for Google Earth ?05:42
dhqHawkwind: just to try it05:43
Hawkwinddhq: On dapper ?05:43
octanHawkwind, 0.= you kidding?05:43
dhqHawkwind: yes05:43
dhqoctan: y05:43
octanHawkwind,  where is the pkg?05:43
Hawkwinddhq: Not suggested.  You should just upgrade to Edgy if you want 7.1.  Putting it on Dapper will probably break most everything05:43
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octan!googleearth05:44
ubotuGoogle Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html05:44
octan!googleearth.deb05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about googleearth.deb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
dhqHawkwind: well let me see ;if i back up my system and try it i guess there wont be much harm done05:44
Hawkwindoctan: There might not be, but I thought there was05:44
octancan you extract the bin for me pls?05:45
Hawkwindoctan: Umm there is05:45
Hawkwindoctan: apt-cache search googleearth shows it05:45
Mochito#debian05:45
octannot here05:45
octanHawkwind, im missing a repo05:45
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octanHawkwind, which one is it in?05:45
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Hawkwindgoogleearth | 4.0.1693-1plf3 | http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Packages05:46
Hawkwindgoogleearth | 4.0.1693-1plf3 | http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Sources05:46
octanalright05:46
Hawkwinddeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free05:46
Hawkwinddeb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free05:46
Hawkwindoctan: ^^^^^^^^05:47
Hawkwindoctan: Add those to your /etc/apt/sources.list05:47
octanim doing it now05:47
octan:)05:47
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JacksLivrif i need to compile software and gc is not installed. do i need to just install gcc or install a suite like dev-tools or somehting05:47
dhqHawkwind: i will wait for those 20 days to try xorg 7.105:48
Hawkwinddhq: What is in 7.1 that you want so bad ?05:49
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padlaHi, I'd like to know if I can install transcode and cinelerra on kubuntu...05:49
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Spherehi05:49
octanHawkwind, what do you name them?05:49
octanmain?05:49
Spherehow do i install KDE on xubuntu?05:49
Hawkwindoctan: Name them ?05:50
MorticeSphere: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:50
octani get error with deb http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Sources05:50
JacksLivrif i need to compile software and gcc is not installed. do i need to just install gcc or install a suite like dev-tools or somehting05:50
MetaMorfoziSJacksLivr: build-essential05:50
SphereMortice: i read that you should type aptitude? whats the diference?05:50
MorticeJacksLivr: easiest way is apt-get install build-essential05:50
JacksLivrapt-get install gcc05:50
octandeb http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free main-amd64 ??05:50
intelikeySphere or  sudo apt-get install kde05:50
JacksLivroh thats all05:50
MorticeSphere: not an awful lot. the backend is the same.05:50
SphereMortice: tested aptitude and is seemd to work but i cant fins KDE anywhere...05:51
octanHawkwind, ??05:51
Morticesphere: in your sessions list in GDM?05:51
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Hawkwindoctan: Are you using 64Bit ?05:51
octanyes05:51
Hawkwindoctan: Those are the lines directly from my sources.list05:51
SphereMortice: im a linux n00b ..05:51
DaSkreechdhq You >can< install edgy without it being out05:51
intelikeyMortice xdm05:51
Hawkwindoctan: I don't know if it's available for 64Bit05:51
Morticeintelikey: right you are. >.<05:51
JacksLivrMetaMorfoziS, Mortice: thanks, doing that now05:52
DaSkreechHawkwind: Why isn't there more interest in WorldWind?05:52
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MetaMorfoziSokay05:52
MorticeSphere: when you get to the login screen, you should have an option to choose the "session type"05:52
soulriderhi everyone05:52
SphereMortice: i typed dpkg-reconfigure kde/gnm/kfc without success05:52
dhqDaSkreech: how05:52
SphereMortice: KDE is not under session type..05:52
Sphereso ill gues it didnt work05:52
DaSkreechin your sources.list change where it says dapper to edgy and save05:52
DaSkreech the nsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:53
dhqHawkwind: DaSkreech what does knot 2 mean05:53
MorticeSphere: so you did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and kde doesn't appear in your sessions list? odd.05:53
MorticeSphere: were there any errors?05:53
DaSkreechsecond stable release of edgy05:53
octanHawkwind, ok lets check.. im downloading and installing it now :)05:53
Sphereis there anything else you have to do? i just typed "sudo aptidute05:53
HawkwindSecond release candidate of Edgy.05:53
HawkwindNot stable05:53
Sphere"sudo aptitude install kde-desktop"05:53
DaSkreechIt was a release candidate?05:53
HawkwindDaSkreech: Of course05:53
HawkwindDaSkreech: Stable would mean a final product05:54
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MorticeSphere: use the kubuntu-desktop package.05:54
intelikeySphere no not kde-desktop   just kde05:54
DaSkreechHawkwind: No it doesn't :-P release candidate means final product :-P05:54
TheGateKeeperwhat's the release date for edge?05:54
DaSkreech!schedule05:54
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:54
HawkwindDaSkreech: Not even remotely close05:54
dhqDaSkreech: did you try edgy05:54
DaSkreechoct 26 I think05:54
Sphereso i should just type "aptitude install kde"?05:54
DaSkreechdhq:  Yes05:54
HawkwindDaSkreech: You have RC, beta, then final05:54
Morticeintelikey: why are you suggesting kde over kubuntu-desktop?05:54
intelikeySphere that's what i'd sujest05:55
dhqDaSkreech: howz it05:55
DaSkreechdhq Pretty :-)05:55
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Sphere=)05:55
intelikeyMortice cause Sphere didn't ask for all the packages that kubuntu installs just the full kde05:55
Sphereill try that05:55
dhqDaSkreech: and how much time will it take me to upgrade to it i am on a 256kbps05:55
Morticeintelikey: fair enough.05:55
Spherebtw is there any way to scan a disc for errors in ubuntu?05:55
octanHawkwind, :D Thank you very very much :)05:55
octanyou repo worked :)05:56
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MorticeSphere: fsck05:56
Spheresudo fsck hda1 for example?05:56
Hawkwindoctan: Kewl05:56
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MorticeSphere: sudo fsck /dev/hda1 for example :)05:56
intelikeySphere remount it read only then run fsck on it.   or if you mean phisical error testing  badblocks it the app05:56
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abionnnnIs there any way to run XFIG in Kubuntu?05:57
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MorticeSphere: but yea, don't run it while mounted. it should get checked each boot anyway05:57
SphereMortice: okey...05:57
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Spherebadblocks is that included in ubuntu?05:57
intelikeyyep05:57
Spherewhere do i find it?05:57
intelikeywhich badblocks05:57
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intelikeytype that in a terminal ^05:58
Spherebtw can you unmount the system disc?05:58
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intelikeyno you have to remount,ro05:58
intelikeysudo mount -o remount,ro /05:58
DaSkreechdhq: soonere than it would take to compile x.org 7.105:58
DaSkreechabionnnn: XFIG?05:59
dhqok05:59
abionnnnDaSkreech: somewhat popular figure editor which uses Xaw3d widgets05:59
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TheGateKeeperhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu <-- doesn't say which version of kde06:00
intelikeySphere also you should be advised that any command that requires "sudo" (root privilages)  you should read at least the description for the command in the manuals       man man  &&  man intor06:00
intelikeythat is.    man man  &&  man intor    for information on how to use the man pages.06:01
Spherethanks for all the help guys...!06:01
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intelikeyerrrr man intro06:02
luis_lopezquick question: is swapd enabled by default in Egdy? How's the swap management done in this version?06:02
intelikeytranspositional typist....06:02
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intelikeyMortice also concerning why i was sujesting kde over kubuntu-desktop,  the subject in question started with xubuntu; which would normally indicate either a sense of curiosity, or a minimalistic attatude.  in either case i try to point toword what they specificly ask about.  even if i think that something else is better.   (not that you really wanted a full explanation)  :)06:07
Morticeheh. perfectly fair enough :)06:07
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slow-motionhallo06:09
DaSkreechhi06:10
frojndcan someone help me youtube and simillar pages make them work06:10
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DaSkreechsimialr pages?06:11
frojndI can't find proper plug-ins..06:11
DaSkreech!flash06:11
frojndyoutube metacafe..06:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:11
DaSkreechread that :)06:11
frojndk06:11
frojnd:>06:11
kumsy!packages06:11
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!06:11
kumsy!adept06:11
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:11
intelikey!repos06:12
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:12
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intelikeymight as well round it out  :)06:12
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intelikeycommands can be strung togather in several ways on the command line.    1.   command-1 ; command-2    is the same as typing them one at a time. the simi-colen is the same as the [enter]  key.   2. command-1 & command-2    both will start togather with command-1 running in the background.  it's abount like running command-1 and hitting ^Z  [ctrl+Z]   then running command-206:20
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th0rbenhi, can anyone familiar with the graphical installer of 6.06 please PM me?06:21
intelikey3. command-1 && command-2      command-2 runs only if command-1 finishes without error.06:21
intelikey4. command-1 || command-2       command-2 runs only if command-1 errors out.06:21
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th0rbenthe issue is, i am going to install kubuntu on some unused partitions, but i can't seem to change the mountpoints of those partitions, and atm they are set quite wrong06:22
intelikeyth0rben the live CD ?06:23
th0rbenintelikey: yes, i think so.06:24
intelikeystep 5 ?06:24
th0rbenintelikey: yes06:24
intelikeyclicking on the mountpoint doesn't allow for changing it ?06:24
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sarahhi06:25
th0rbenintelikey: no, can only view infos06:25
th0rbenintelikey: but i can format, but i can't change the mountpoint there06:26
th0rbenand i can only format as ext2...06:26
th0rbeni mounted a partition manually before, is that any help? i forgot to unmount it until the installer reminded me, that i should be sure.06:27
th0rbento have nothing mounted06:27
intelikeyif i remember correctly.  you should be looking at a page that has lines with     mountpoint-box   device-identification   format-type   []  format y-n       and one line per partition.  is that what you are looking at ?06:29
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intelikeylast step befor installation.       that's where you confirm everything about the disk/partitions     not the first page about the partitions.     the second one.     that's where you can set the mountpoints06:31
th0rbenintelikey: so i would set the mountpoints at step 606:31
th0rben?06:31
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intelikeyth0rben it's not my turn to start lying to you now.06:31
intelikeyask someone that is sure about the step number.06:32
intelikeysimply put.   i don't know.06:32
th0rbenintelikey: at the previous step i chose to partition manually.06:32
intelikeyi thought is was step 5  maybe 6 idk06:32
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intelikeyit asks if it's all correct.06:33
th0rbenintelikey: i dared :-)06:33
intelikeyand for the record.    i hate the installer on the live CD with a purple passion06:34
th0rbenintelikey: step 5 contained some substeps...06:34
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mikkihow do i install screen driver for my radeon 955006:34
TheGateKeeperth0rben: if you are using the liveCD then you should be able to select manual partitioning then you can select where to mount06:34
intelikey!ati > mikki06:34
th0rbenintelikey: will i get kicked if i say that i prefere gentoo anyway?06:34
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intelikeynot by me    lol06:34
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TheGateKeeperth0rben: ok I am curious, why does (k)ubuntu interest you?06:35
th0rbenTheGateKeeper: I am interested in my father being capable to do some administration stuff himself :-) and i know that (k)ubuntu would be the best choice there06:36
StrahlungAlpha2whoops. didn't mean to join this channel (even this server) but since i obviously did: Hi there :)06:37
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intelikeyStrahlungAlpha2 it's ok you didn't  :)06:37
sarahre06:37
StrahlungAlpha2id did not?06:38
StrahlungAlpha2now this is confusing06:38
cpk2th0rben: you set the partitions, you set the mount points and then it tells you how you have it configured and says "install" if you dont like the coniguration go back06:38
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TheGateKeeperth0rben: seems like a reasonable choice to me, gentoo is great but I can't leave pc running at night, which presents a bit of a problem with big emerges06:38
intelikeyyour irc client joined the server and channel.... you didn't   :)06:39
sarahQuestion:  I added this line to  /etc/fstab06:39
sarah/dev/hda3 /home/foo/bar vfat defaults,uid=0,gid=0,umask=002 0 006:39
sarahwhen I want to write data to this directory, I get this error:06:39
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sarahbash: test.txt: Permission denied06:40
sarahso I cannot write the directory as user06:40
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sarahhow can I make it writeable for me being a user?06:40
intelikeysarah you are not in the root group06:40
TheGateKeeper(k)ubuntu is easy to install, installing software is easy to with apt-get/synaptic/adept06:40
th0rbenTheGateKeeper: i only leave my pc running overnight when i emerge something like kde... but they have binaries for kde now, too06:40
sarahintelikey: sure?   sudo  works for me06:40
intelikeysarah set the uid to your uid  not root06:40
mikkihow do i know if i got dapper og breezy ...?06:40
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sarahintelikey: thank you06:41
sarahmine is 100006:41
sarahthank you06:41
intelikeysarah sudo works because you are in the 'admin' group  not 'root' group06:41
sarahneed to restart to see if it works06:41
intelikeyand she didn't need to restart either.....06:41
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abattoirmikki: 'lsb_release -a'06:41
cpk2intelikey: windows syndrome i guess06:42
TheGateKeeperth0rben: where? I installed kororaa after trashing my system trying to move it to testing because I could not face repeating all the stuff I had done06:42
intelikeyyeah06:42
th0rbenTheGateKeeper: emerge kde-bin did the trick iirc06:42
TheGateKeeperth0rben: thanx :-)06:43
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intelikeymikki on the rare case where lsb-release is not installed you could    grep dapper /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null && echo dapper || echo other06:43
mikkiwhat ?06:43
intelikeylong answer to your question06:44
StrahlungAlpha2intelikey- isn't it regardless who did? i am here now06:44
mikkiim trying to install ati driver: sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper06:44
azzcoHi I'm using ktorrent and I've downloaded an ISO... however I've created a new map and would like to have my downloaded ISO's in that map... however I would also liike to continue seeding the ones I've downloaded... how do I change shortcuts to the ISO's?06:44
TheGateKeeperth0rben: btw if the livecd is giving you greif use the alternative cd, it's got a text installer & I think it will give you a little more control06:44
mikkibut that dosnt work06:44
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intelikeyStrahlungAlpha2 yeah  but you said "<StrahlungAlpha2> whoops. didn't mean to join this channel..."06:45
grizzlyis kubuntu's network/ethernet a lil screwed up?06:45
cpk2does apt-get ever install stuff into the home dir?06:45
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th0rbenTheGateKeeper: doesn't the live cd have a text installer hidden somewhere, too?06:45
StrahlungAlpha2why, then i was wrong06:45
StrahlungAlpha2curse u konversation06:45
joschacpk2: no, but it could06:45
intelikeycpk2 i don't think it will by default.06:46
grizzlycpk2: only the config files /home/user/.someconffile afaik06:46
intelikeygrizzly apt doesn't do that does it ?06:46
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intelikeythat would be the app it's self06:46
joschathe conf files will be generated during the first start of the application06:46
intelikeywhen first ran06:46
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joschanot by apt06:46
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cpk2ok just wondering if i would mess it up by running apt-get from root@localhost06:47
intelikeyditto joscha06:47
ssddrhey , i need help06:47
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TheGateKeeperth0rben: no just the gui one06:47
joschayou could write an .deb archive which will install things in Homedirectorys... but nobody will do something stupid like that06:47
ssddrwhen i run apt-get06:47
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ssddrthis happends:06:48
joschaat least nobody working @debian, ubuntu,....06:48
intelikeycpk2 that's what sudo does.06:48
th0rbenTheGateKeeper: right. but my father is looking over my shoulder, so i thought the gui installer would be a bit more 'understandable'06:48
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grizzlyok suggest me an alternative to kcontrol for managin /diagnosing ethernet plz command line/gui06:48
intelikeyjoscha that's not so stupid if you build packages that users can install locally without root privilages06:49
DannioniHi, i want to log in as root (in kde), how do i do?06:49
TheGateKeeperth0rben: by all means use it if you can get it to do what you want it to do, only suggested the other one if it was giving you problems06:49
intelikeymanaging grizzly ifconfig06:49
joschaintelikey: sure, but for this there are parameters you can pass to dpkg06:49
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intelikeyright.  and they could be added to the preinstall scripts06:50
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TheGateKeeperth0rben: like I said if you choose manual partitioning you should be able to set it up the way you want it, but the partitioner can be a little tempremental if you are not carefull with it06:50
intelikeybut i think apt would still need uid=0 to first dl the package06:50
joschai meant it would be stupid to install a package by default in the user-dir06:51
intelikeyagreed06:51
th0rbenTheGateKeeper: I noticed... i had to confirm every small step i did06:51
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DannioniDo anyone know how to do to log in as root in kde?06:52
TheGateKeeperth0rben: make sure that free space is selected before creating a partition or it will get it's knickers in a twist06:52
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TheGateKeeperDannioni: kdesu <application>06:53
th0rbenTheGateKeeper: well it's too late now anyway...06:53
intelikey"<TheGateKeeper> th0rben: like I said if you choose manual partitioning you should be able to set it up the way you want it,"  <--- now that is absolutely true.  unfortunately it's not the case with the live CD installer.     i want to install on /dev/sda  but the installer on the live cd will not install there.  it demands a partition.   totally inflexable about it too06:53
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cpk2i couldnt even get the live cd to let me manually partition my sda, doesnt seem to like my sata06:54
th0rbenintelikey: everyone knows that you are not THAT flexible with guis06:54
frojndhello, how can I search for all .avi files on my kubuntu?06:54
dekKrusader doesn't save settings on exit (always starts in the same dir) even though the option in settings is enabled. Using Edgy and latest Krusader. Any idea what could be wrong?06:55
intelikeyth0rben i've used linux installers that allow that06:55
intelikeymandrake for one.06:55
intelikeyslackware was a little more involved but worked.06:55
th0rbenintelikey: the amount of gui installers is only a subset of the amount of linux installers06:55
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nixternalsomebody who is running dapper type at the command line         cat /etc/usplash.conf06:56
nixternaltell me if you get results pleast06:56
intelikeyyeah  but the live CD doesn't even allow for a non-gui install06:56
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nixternalplease. thank you ;)06:56
TheGateKeeperintelikey: the livecd installer does seem a bit tempremental06:56
th0rbenintelikey: do you happen to know why that is?06:56
intelikeyth0rben no.06:57
joschacat: /etc/usplash.conf: No such file or directory06:57
intelikeyth0rben space issues i assume.06:57
nixternalthank you ;)06:57
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th0rbenintelikey: why on earth does a whois reveal, that you are logged in as root i wonder06:58
intelikeynixternal i don't have usplash installed so it would be superflutious for me to issue that command.06:58
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th0rbenok, want to reboot now...06:59
intelikeyth0rben cause if you use the *buntu (root jr.)  sudo method  and your whois info is true  then when you login as your user you have affectively loged in to irc as root for all practical purposes.06:59
th0rbenintelikey: i accept this as an explanation, but only because i don't understand all of it...07:00
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intelikeythat is to say.  if you reviel the name of your admin account (root jr.)  you open the door for attack07:00
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intelikeyso let them try to crack the root account.   and let them have fun trying....07:01
intelikey:)07:01
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intelikeyi'm not root. btw.07:01
tristanmikelol07:01
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Dannionisure ? :p07:02
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ziabicere all07:02
intelikeyDannioni i'm not root.   im  "init"07:02
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intelikeyor in edgy terms.  im  "upstart"   :)07:03
Spherehi again.. managed to get kde under xubuntu but now i cant change the resolution07:03
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MotorCityMadMan!camera07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:04
Sphereright click on the desktop - configure desktop......... but there is no option to change resolution... what do i do now?07:04
MotorCityMadMan!picture07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about picture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:04
intelikeySphere how are you trying to change the rez.... oh.   it's  in kcontrol     i think07:04
intelikeyin the Kmenu Sphere07:05
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Spherenot thete either07:06
Spherewas no problem under kubuntu but kde on xubunto .... no option there07:06
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DannioniIs there any kind of linux Wiki??07:08
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CVirusDannioni: every distribution has its very own wiki07:08
CVirus!wiki07:08
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation07:08
Sphereintelikey: any ide?07:08
CVirusDannioni: ^07:08
DannioniAha, then i'll check that one, i'm quite new to linux, so some questions my07:09
Dannioni*may seem stupid to you :p07:09
intelikeySphere it was there when i had 'kde' installed here.....07:09
CVirusDannioni: its okay07:10
DannioniThanks!07:10
Sphereintelikey: yes it was there when i ran pure kubunto too but not with KDE over xubuntu07:10
intelikeySphere an alternative would be to adjust the fonts size all up/down-ward to make the thing more like the rez setting you want07:11
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intelikeySphere but i didn't have kubuntu i had kde   just like you installed it.07:11
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intelikeyit is there somewhere.  look again.07:11
intelikeysystem > something07:12
michaelFor anyone following yesterday, newly installed 6.06 using apt-get install nvidia-glx, then changing xorg.conf to say "nvidia" under drivers works perfect.07:12
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intelikeySphere also the kmenu is not all visable by default.  you may need to configure the menu first.07:12
Sphereintelikey: how do i do that?07:12
intelikeyright click on it07:13
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gemidjyhttp://i12.tinypic.com/3yhzpjo.png why the Local printer checkbox is disabled ?07:13
intelikeyor run kcontrol07:14
intelikeykcontrol07:14
intelikeykcontrol07:14
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intelikeygemidjy not @ you.07:14
Sphereseems to be loatds of errors when i typed that in the console07:14
Sphereoh wrong console..07:15
Spherewhen i type kcontrol now.. the controlpanels opens but still no dispay option07:15
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FreeBugshelp, how to fix this? http://tinyurl.com/cx7h8,07:16
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intelikeyroot@localhost/~# urpmi kde07:17
intelikeyNeed to get 445kB/182MB of archives07:17
intelikeyinstalling.07:17
CVirusFreeBugs: you are officially a gay07:18
abattoir!ops07:18
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind07:18
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abattoirFreeBugs seems to be a tor07:18
gnomefreakabattoir: ?07:18
abattoirgnomefreak: FreeBugs07:18
imbrandonyes ?07:18
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abattoirFreeBugs is i=dav@gateway/tor/x-6ef31713bf683734 (vda)07:19
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abattoirand the link is shady07:19
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gnomefreakabattoir: it was a shady link at best im not so sure tor is redirected in here07:19
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drbeamsi want to run windows xp in a vmplayer session on my pc.  is this possilble?  is there a *.vmx for windows xp ?07:20
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Sanne_drbeams: you can create yourself a vmx at http://www.easyvmx.com/07:22
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kulbirhow to do i extract .deb file?07:23
zorglu_q. i would like to save the output of my webcam on disk, i got the webcam running, just looking at a software to save it on disk. any suggestion ?07:24
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Sanne_drbeams: you might also want to look at some of those: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmware&titlesearch=Titles07:24
drbeamszorglu_: vlc07:25
zorglu_drbeams: well i fail to save any video with it. i dunno which encoder is supported. all i tried failed07:25
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zorglu_drbeams: i even asked on #videolan and they didnt answer07:25
zorglu_drbeams: any suggestion on how can i know the supported encoder by my vlc ?07:26
intelikeynow i'm reminded why i removed kde....07:26
intelikeyoh well!07:26
zorglu_drbeams: ?07:27
Sanne_kulbir: right click on deb/extract, or from the cli: ar -x name-of-deb07:27
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intelikeytar ^07:28
zorglu_so any suggestion on how to save the output of a webcam on disk ?07:28
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zorglu_ok will retry tomorrow :)07:29
intelikeyzorglu_ one could cat the device to a file but that's not what you want.07:30
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zorglu_\indeed :)07:30
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zorglu_in fact i just want to window with my face in it07:31
zorglu_and a file containing the stuff07:31
zorglu_very nice tool for blog07:31
zorglu_oh maybe #kde could help07:31
intelikeymaybe07:32
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intelikeyor ##linux07:32
intelikeyor ##linuxhelp07:32
zorglu_never went there, are they helpfull ?07:32
intelikeyor #ubuntu  even07:32
intelikeyat times very.07:32
intelikeyat times you might walk in to a dogma fight....07:33
zorglu_oh cool will try then :)07:33
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intelikeyif it's really busy just watch for a minute and see what's up07:33
drbeamszorglu_: sorry, lunch.  lemme check07:34
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jpiccolohow would i update from the command line?07:34
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drbeamszorglu_: ur trying to run live video in a blog window ?07:34
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THY733THi,i want to add some scripts to mount/umount network shares on suspend/hibernate.Where do i add the script?I use Kubuntu Dapper07:35
zorglu_drbeams: well this is the end destination of my stuff. but in practice i just want a simple tool i could launch, and have the webcam stram saved on disk07:35
intelikeyjpiccolo update what ?   the system ?07:36
zorglu_drbeams: i was using vlc for that before, but i was using xvid+mp3 encoder and they no more work07:36
the_imaxhi can some one paste me a clean source.list?07:36
drbeamsopen capture device on "file"07:36
zorglu_drbeams: so i look for alternative. #videolan being dead or unhelpfull at the moment07:36
jpiccoloupdate a ubuntu server07:36
intelikeyjpiccolo "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade "07:36
jpiccolook apt-get dist-upgrade will list the updates available?07:37
zorglu_drbeams: what do you mean ? in the menu ? if i do 'open capture device' it show me the video but dont save on disk07:37
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intelikeyit will ask for confirmation on all the updates at one time.07:37
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intelikeyyes listing them07:37
drbeamszorglu_: stream output to a file07:38
drbeamsyou might be interested in a project i have been working on07:38
zorglu_drbeams: oh ok i found it, thanks07:39
drbeamsi am working at embeding video/chat/and audio in a web page07:39
zorglu_drbeams: the choise of encoder is 'wrong' tho :) but i got a list of them :)07:39
zorglu_drbeams: just have to try them all :)07:39
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drbeamshope to post a project to sf soon07:39
zorglu_cool :)07:40
drbeamsi am looking for devs07:40
jpiccolointelikey, thanks07:40
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arunkalefor some reason frostwire just wont open for me07:40
intelikeynp07:40
drbeamsiirc mpv4 is the better quality07:40
arunkaleit does the whole loading bouncy ball thingy and then nothing07:41
intelikeyquestion.  is there a way to passively cat something ?07:41
drbeamsthere are some comprehensive tutorials out there explaining the codecs and how they can be used07:41
drbeamsintelikey: pet it07:41
drbeamsintelikey: it will purrrrr07:42
drbeams:-)07:42
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insanekaneintelikey: passively cat ?07:43
amaiko hello every body07:43
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amaikoanyOne here have Some Links about python language07:44
insanekaneamaiko: python.org :)07:44
intelikeydrbeams like this.  login tty1 & tty2  then in tty2 do  cat /dev/tty1     and in tty1 what ever you type is put on tty2  but it makes insurection(a hostile takeover) on tty1 leaving it useless.     is there a way to grab the data without taking over07:44
insanekaneamaiko: you installed kubuntu ? if so, it comes with Dive into Python ... look in Help07:44
zorglu_maouaoua video on linux is such a pain :)07:44
amaikothanks07:44
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intelikeyinsanekane ^07:45
amaikoi installed ubuntu07:45
amaikothen i installed KDE07:45
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insanekaneamaiko: hmm ... well, look K->Help->Scrollkeeper->Development->Dive into Python07:46
insanekaneintelikey: no idea man07:46
intelikeyk07:46
insanekaneintelikey: maybe you should use a named pipe or something07:46
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intelikeyyeah or a vc even07:47
amaikookay man Thx07:47
zorglu_drbeams: ok i tried the mp4 and it passed !!!!07:48
zorglu_wow i can even read the file with other players07:48
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Sanne_amaiko: I found those two extremely helpful: http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:Main_Page and Python Quick Reference at http://rgruet.free.fr/07:48
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insanekaneyes Byte of Python is cool :)07:49
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Sanne_:)07:50
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amaikois The python easy07:50
insanekaneof course, i didnt need either to learn Python ... just used Guido's tutorial on python.org07:50
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insanekaneamaiko: python is dead easy :)07:50
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intelikeykonsolekalendar <--kan we get any more k'ish in our konversation ?   :)07:51
amaikothank you all07:51
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amaikou r kind pple :d07:51
intelikeyurqw07:51
amaikothis is my frist time on this chat07:51
luis_lopezHi everyone. Quick question: is swap disabled by default in Edgy?07:51
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intelikeyluis_lopez enabled by default07:52
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intelikeyon all linux distros i've ever seen07:52
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Sanne_amaiko: you're welcome :)07:53
THY733TSomeone help me?07:53
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zorglu_[00000334]  ffmpeg encoder error: cannot find encoder MPEG Audio layer 1/2/3 <- it is from vlc, any idea on how to fix it ?07:54
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zorglu_!restricted07:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:56
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Flarpzorglu_: did you encode the audio layer as well ?07:57
zorglu_Flarp: yep i try to do the audio and video07:57
intelikeydrbeams you sure you got the right nick ?07:58
zorglu_i tried with mp4 but the result is quite crappy07:58
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zorglu_much worst that the one i got with div3+mp307:58
intelikeywell i'm going to go start a gui.   haven't seen one in a few days....   later chan07:59
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phummerThis seems like a really dumb question, but God bless Linux distros that do everything for you...  I'm a Debian user taking Kubuntu for a spin.  I put a typo in my /etc/sudoers on accident (meaning I can't sudo now), and the root password is not my user password.  What is it?08:01
soulridererr, does anyone know why i cant open a .midi file ?08:02
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sts9Im having serious package issues with amule. is there somewhere I can post a few error mgs08:08
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arunkaleanyone for frostwire08:09
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Sanne_sts9: paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:10
sts9what can I do about this error message when installing amule? :diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.xmule.1.gz by amule' clashes with `diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.xmule.1.gz by amule-utils'08:10
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holoton2Any of you folks happen to know how to get QTVR 360 panoramas to work in kubuntu?08:17
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holoton2anybody?08:28
zorglu_yep me too i want an answer :)08:28
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zorglu_or the solution is a script using gstream via python :)08:28
zorglu_dont tell me linux is not easy :)08:29
zorglu_it is ok if you know python and are not afraid to code your own apps :)08:29
zorglu_or maybe i could find a vlc which work ok on ubuntu08:30
zorglu_!vlc08:30
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs08:30
zorglu_!info vlc08:30
ubotuvlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB08:30
zorglu_!info vlc plf08:30
zorglu_lc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats <- they mean 'without mp3' :)08:31
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method|why do fonts in kubuntu suck so bad compared to PCLinuxOS08:32
zorglu_likely need to tune them08:33
mikkoanyone has probles loging in to msn ?08:33
method|i have imported the same .fonts.conf from PCLOS and they still suck08:33
method|the same fonts look totally different08:33
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zorglu_looked very bad before i did tune them08:33
zorglu_some dpkg reconfigure font08:33
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arunkalemethodj: i've got my fonts to render exactly like os x renders them08:34
joschamikko: msn is broken...08:34
method|arunkale: how?08:35
mikkojoscha how is it broken if my friends can log in ?08:35
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emonkey-udoes anybody know how i can delete the ext3 journal?08:37
holoton2mikko: what do you mean by "log into msn"?08:37
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holoton2mikko: chat?08:38
mikkoi mean whole msn service08:38
mikkohere's my log08:39
mikkokopete (msn): WARNING: [void MSNSocket::slotSocketError(int)]  Error: 17 (remote host closed connection)08:39
mikkokio (KIOJob): TransferJob::slotRedirection(https://msnia.login.live.com/login2.srf?lc=1033)08:39
mikko:\08:39
mikkokopete (msn): WARNING: [void MSNSocket::slotSocketError(int)]  Error: 17 (remote host closed connection)08:39
holoton2does it work via GAIM?08:39
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mikkonope, it says that ""Your MSN buddy list is temporarily unavailable""08:40
zorglu_mikko: the hotmail icon is ok from here08:40
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zorglu_well msn has always been flacky08:40
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holoton2mikko: I'm connected to msn right now via Gaim08:41
zorglu_i always had trouble with msn on gaim or kopete08:41
tictrichi, who can give me a hand with the current way of dapper to handle network configuration?08:41
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tictricI can't quite get used to stumble over (as I believe) hal on so many places08:41
mikkoi have tried aMsn too but it does same, can get connection08:41
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zorglu_mikko: is this permanent ?08:42
zorglu_mikko: or just temporary as only today ?08:42
tictricin /etc/network/interfaces I have configured my eth0 as 192.168.1.2008:42
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mikkoworked last night08:43
zorglu_mikko: wait a bit, it could ismply be the server in your area. all seems ok from where i am08:43
tictricStill when I type ifconfig it says my ip was 169.254.199.7308:43
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zorglu_tictric: sorry only did basic conf thru kcontrol08:44
zorglu_auto eth008:44
zorglu_iface eth0 inet dhcp08:44
zorglu_all my interface look like this08:44
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zorglu_do you need static ip ?08:45
tictriczorglu_: Yes, I need that to keep my network working08:45
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zorglu_have you tried thry kcontrol ?08:45
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fredoola08:46
fredoqe tal?08:46
zorglu_!es08:46
tictricbut fact is that when I do a ping home it replies with my correct 192.168.1.2008:46
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:46
tictricfredo: porque no hablamos espanol aqui08:47
zorglu_tictric: and 'ip addr' shows which addr ? the one you want ?08:47
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tictriczorglu_: No, it shows that ominous 169.254.199.7308:48
tictricI just don't know where this is being configured08:48
zorglu_hmm08:48
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zorglu_ok do "ip addr" and put that in a pastebin08:49
zorglu_then do "ip route" and to that in another pastbin08:49
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intelikeyhowto start kde from the console   (not *dm, and not startx)  ?08:52
tictrichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25596/08:52
zorglu_09.     inet 169.254.199.73/16 brd 169.254.255.255 scope link eth008:52
zorglu_10.     inet 192.168.1.20/16 brd 192.168.255.255 scope global eth008:52
zorglu_seems ok from here08:53
zorglu_what make you think you got an issue08:53
intelikeynobody ?08:53
tictriczorglu_: where does that 169.blabla IP come from?08:53
zorglu_intelikey: nope, mine got started automatically :)08:53
Hawkwind/usr/bin/startkde ?08:53
zorglu_tictric: it is a automatic  ip allocation in case you got no dhcp or fix address. it is part of zeroconf08:54
intelikeyHawkwind X is running  and that doesn't take args like  --display :1  does it ?>08:54
zorglu_inet 169.254.168.30/16 brd 169.254.255.255 scope link eth0 <- tictric is mine08:54
Hawkwindintelikey: You can do startx /usr/bin/startkde -- :208:54
Hawkwindintelikey: Not sure if you can leave off the startx part or not08:55
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intelikeyk  ty08:55
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Hawkwindintelikey: Seems that starts KDE in the same X session08:55
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HawkwindI just tried it08:56
intelikeyyeah i got an error08:56
intelikeyFatal server error:08:56
intelikeyServer is already active for display :108:56
HawkwindTry :208:56
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intelikeynope doesn't seem to take.08:57
intelikeygiving up.08:57
intelikeyxinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server08:57
intelikeyprobably an suid issue there08:58
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intelikeyi need to connect to a running X08:58
kyaneoshi08:58
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intelikeyi think i can edit /usr/bin/startkde   maybe get it to accept the args08:59
intelikeyit's a shell script09:00
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koboibonjour puis avoir le lien en fr ?09:00
intelikey!fr09:01
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:01
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main2any questions remaining?09:06
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main2No, good - then all be a happy kubu user.. and smile09:07
frojndcan someone help me with installing flashplayer09:07
frojndERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the09:07
frojnd       Macromedia Flash Player installer.09:07
frojnd:S09:07
main2frojnd: amd64?09:07
frojndjep09:07
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oheard!flash09:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:08
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frojndwel..09:08
frojndcan I get smth more specific09:08
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zorglu_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106 <- frojnd may be of help09:09
main2frojnd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:09
main2^^09:09
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zorglu_the bot suggestions are way to broad. how can we add command/tag in it ?09:10
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johnsandmanI wanna a own bootsplash screen do someone know where I can get information about it?09:11
zorglu_!uplash09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
zorglu_johnsandman: it is something called uplash, google for it09:12
johnsandmanok I will search for it :-) thanks09:12
trappistzorglu_: I promise it's really easy to say like /msg ubotu usplash.  you can even leave the query window open and just say 'usplash' there.09:13
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zorglu_trappist: you already told me that yesterday. and i already told you i wont follow your advice as it make it a lot harder to help user09:14
zorglu_trappist: if you wanna discuss it, we can09:14
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trappistzorglu_: I'm telling you it doesn't make it harder.  it does make it a little harder when the screen is full of ubotu saying "I don't know"09:14
zorglu_trappist: well i can easily proove the opposite, if you are willing to discuss it09:15
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trappistzorglu_: /query ubotu.  then in that window, just say like "mp3" or something.  you can leave it open and ask him all you want, just as easily as saying !mp3 here.09:16
zorglu_trappist: you mean you are willing discuss it ?09:16
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zorglu_trappist: ok lets go09:16
trappistzorglu_: I thought that's what we were doing.09:16
xubuntuis someone here to help me?09:16
BonBonTheJonwhat do you need help with09:17
zorglu_trappist: ok what you propose double the work. so it make it harder09:17
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zorglu_trappist: it is my argument09:17
xubuntuI need help with konsole09:17
trappistsay you get 3 tries wrong before getting it right.  that's 8 lines of scroll, which is 1/3 of my screen, which gets pretty noisy.09:17
xubuntuHow can I browse to another folders with konsole?09:17
zorglu_trappist: can you explain how making the work 2 longer wont make it harder to help user ?09:17
cpk2xubuntu: cd /dir/dir/dir09:18
trappistzorglu_: and my argument is that it's no harder to switch windows and say "foo" than it is to say !foo... or not significantly harder, and certainly not twice as hard09:18
xubuntuthank you CPK209:18
zorglu_trappist: i dont get it. so you say that making twice more work, dont make it harder to help user ?09:18
trappistzorglu_: it *does* make it harder for others to help the same person, because if I keep saying !try1 !try2 !try3 pretty soon his question isn't even on my screen anymore09:19
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trappistzorglu_: you're not listening.  it's not twice the work.09:19
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zorglu_trappist: i am listening09:19
cpk2trappist: how often does zorglu_ get it wrong when its someone asking how to get mp3's to work? I suppose !foo > randomuser might be better09:19
cpk2but maybe other people will see the link and read it09:19
zorglu_trappist: you said 'before using ubotu, test the command via private message'09:20
cpk2if it is across the whole channel09:20
zorglu_trappist: did i misundertood you ?09:20
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trappistcpk2: what we're talking about is when you don't know whether what you're searching for is in the db.  I'm suggesting looking for it in pmsg before making lots of noice in the channel.09:20
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trappistzorglu_: close, but not quite - when you don't know for sure that ubotu knows what you're talking about, and you might have to try 3 or 4 things before getting it right or giving up, do THAT in pmsg, and when you get it right, THEN say !whatever09:21
cpk2the bot is always going to make noise, I mean theres a !botsnack for goodness sakes09:21
zorglu_trappist: ok well i never know if the command will be there09:21
trappist!trythis09:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trythis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
trappist!trythat09:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trythat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
trappist!tryagain09:21
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trappist!tryanother09:21
zorglu_trappist: sorry if i dont remember all the commands09:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tryagain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tryanother - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
trappistthat's just noise, and it adds up quickly09:21
zorglu_trappist: so i try the command09:21
zorglu_trappist: you seems to think it is not a good idea09:22
zorglu_trappist: you suggest me to test privatly which increase a lot my work to help people09:22
trappistzorglu_: come on man.  I'm not asking a lot.  if you don't know, it's *polite* to try it out first before making a lot of unnecessary noise in the channel.09:22
zorglu_trappist: i am very polite on the channel09:22
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zorglu_trappist: and 'come on man', i dont get your point09:23
trappistzorglu_: there's being polite to other people, and there's having good "netiquette", which includes trying not to cause unnecessary scroll in the channel.09:23
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trappistit's similar09:23
trappistto doing09:23
trappistlike09:23
trappistthis09:23
zorglu_trappist: well i do have a good netiquete and i dont appreciate your suggesting otherwise09:23
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zorglu_trappist: or come with proof or log or anything09:24
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trappistzorglu_: I'm not suggesting you're trying to be rude.  but there are hundreds of users in the channel, and it's polite to try to avoid showing them all a lot of unnecessary noise.09:24
arcasaNOISE!09:24
arcasaFOR A PARTY?09:24
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zorglu_trappist: please stop suggesting im impolite without coming with proof09:25
zorglu_trappist: ok we disagree. what do we do ?09:25
arcasaEVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIIIIIIGHTTIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGGGG!09:25
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zorglu_trappist: the code of conduct say 'we ask other people'09:25
arcasaWe stip naked and play How Low Can You Go.09:25
zorglu_trappist: any suggestion ?09:25
cpk2you need to come up with something so that no one is happy09:25
armandoHi all.....09:25
trappistzorglu_: good call09:25
cpk2thats called compromise09:25
armandoSomeone can help me?09:25
arcasaHow Low Can You Go?09:25
arcasaI broke 6 vertebrae last time. . .09:26
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zorglu_trappist: the code of conduct say to be polite too :) so lets avoid insult each other, ok ?09:26
arcasaSTFU N00BS?!09:26
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cpk2armando: not until you describe your problem09:26
arcasaIs that polite?09:26
trappistzorglu_: on the other hand, I'm not suggesting it should be a rule, and I'm not suggesting it's rude.  I'm saying it would be better, and a polite gesture, to take the very small extra effort to cut down on the noise in the channel.09:26
armandoi need to install some codec like Divx and MP3....09:27
arcasaCan anyone help with Sexual Frustration?09:27
armandobut I'm experiencing some problem...09:27
zorglu_trappist: yep it is your opinion and i stated today and yesterday i disagree09:27
zorglu_trappist: and honnestly i dont get why you go so hard on this09:27
segfaultarmando, this is well documented on the ubuntu site under restricted formats09:27
trappistzorglu_: what part do you disagree with09:27
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arcasaI'm on zorglu's side in this one. (He has a nicer arse.)09:27
armandook... i will see09:27
armandotnx a lot09:27
segfaultnp09:27
zorglu_trappist: your suggestion doubles my work to help people, it make it harder to help them, so i disagree09:28
trappistdisagree with what09:28
arcasaI OBJECT!09:28
zorglu_as i said we disagree09:28
arcasa*Wiggles finger*09:28
trappist... about what?09:28
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trappistzorglu_: you're choosing not to follow my suggestion, which is fine.  but what do you disagree with?09:29
zorglu_trappist: i dont want to follow your suggestion, you want me to, this is a disagreement09:29
arcasaI OBJECT!09:29
zorglu_trappist: ok so it is fine :)09:29
arcasa*Wiggles finger*09:29
arcasaOBJECTION! *Wiggles finger*09:29
zorglu_ok now about this bot, is there a way to add tag/command in it ?09:30
arcasaYes.09:30
arcasaAsk nicely.09:30
arcasaWith Grammar AND Spelling.09:30
trappistzorglu_: you can make a suggestion, and the ops will discuss it and maybe implement it09:31
arcasaI suggest Kopete is rebuilt from the ground up.09:31
trappistzorglu_: like, !usplash is some kind of thing.  see http://somesite.com/usplash09:31
zorglu_trappist: oh it is the ops which control the content of the bo ?09:31
zorglu_t09:31
trappistyes09:31
Hawkwindtrappist: zorglu_: Mind taking this discussion somewhere like -OffTopic please09:31
trappistHawkwind: we're finished09:31
trappistand yeah, sorry09:32
Hawkwindzorglu_: Yes, most of us who are ops have access to change bot entries as well09:32
zorglu_Hawkwind: well this make the process to add stuff quite long :)09:32
Hawkwindzorglu_: Not really09:32
zorglu_is there a description somewhere of the policy applied for the keyword in the bot ?09:32
Hawkwindzorglu_: You can add your fact, and it gets put into the ops channel so all of us see it, then we can approve it and add it if we find it helpful or good enough09:33
arcasaCan I be a ops?09:33
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Hawkwindzorglu_: You can also pm me at any time with whatever and when I see it, I'll let you know one way or the other if I add it09:33
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Hawkwind!ubuto09:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:33
HawkwindHeh09:33
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Hawkwind!bot > zorglu_09:34
arcasa!bot > kiss ma ass!09:34
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zorglu_i mean something i could read before going thru the process of persuading the ops of its 'goodness'09:34
zorglu_ok reading it09:34
Hawkwindzorglu_: I'm here all the time so feel free to pm me anything you want added09:34
Hawkwindarcasa: Please don't play with the bot :)09:34
arcasa[20:34]  <ubotu> Error: That person could not be found in any channel you're in09:34
arcasa[20:34]  <arcasa> HI!09:34
arcasa[20:34]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HI! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
arcasa[20:34]  <arcasa> Boobs!09:34
arcasa[20:35]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Boobs! - try searching on http://bots09:34
arcasaHe knows nothing anyway.09:35
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Hawkwindarcasa: Please, no need to paste like that to channel.  Use pastebin please the next time09:35
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arcasaHow do I change my name?09:36
arcasa!Hawkwind how do I change my name?09:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Hawkwind how do I change my name? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
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Hawkwindarcasa: /nick new-nick-here09:37
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ArcasaAwesome!09:37
shmlarquestion: anyone familiar w/ setting up postfix?09:37
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ArcasaCapital letters make my day!09:37
shmlarpoooostfix anyoneeeee?09:37
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trappistshmlar: you might have better luck with something like this: I was trying to set up postfix, and when I did X, Y happened.  what went wrong?09:38
shmlarlol. how about.. we have postfix set up, but are having problems recieving mail from Outlook on an XP box..09:38
danbuntuhow do I enable compoisting on the nvidia driver? I'm trying to gewt beryl to work09:39
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Hawkwinddanbuntu: Might talk to the guys in #Ubuntu-XGL as they are experts09:40
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danbuntuah cool I'll give them a go09:40
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intelikeykdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.09:40
intelikeyWarning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory09:40
ArcasaHow do I update my KDE version?09:40
intelikeycan i manually export that veriable ?09:41
johannesHello: Q: Does someone know how to install and configure "Kontact". I can't find Kmail, Kadressbook and so on in it...09:41
intelikeysomething like export DISPLAY="0:0"    ???09:41
frojndcan someone help me with installing firefox32 at the point (5) when I try to Create the execution files for 32 bit firefox it says: bash: gksudo: command not found. Can someone help me with that?09:42
frojndlink: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:42
zorglu_frojnd: "gksudo gedit /usr/local/bin/firefox32" should be replaced by "kdesu kate /usr/local/bin/firefox32"09:43
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zorglu_frojnd: it is ubuntu tutoral and kubuntu has a bit different apps installed09:43
frojndaha09:43
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trappistshift: receiving mail *from* outlook, like outlook is sending the mail?  and it doesn't arrive?09:43
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intelikeyis it safe to do something like    export DISPLAY="0:0"    or would that even be proper syntax ?    maybe   export DISPLAY="-:0"   ?  anyone09:44
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trappistintelikey: export DISPLAY=:009:45
trappistintelikey: or :009:45
intelikeytrappist that doesn't comprimize the tty ?09:46
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trappistintelikey: no, just tells what display to send gui goodness to09:46
intelikeytrappist ty09:47
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trappistintelikey: like, if I ssh to your box and set DISPLAY=:0 you'll see any gui apps I run from the console09:47
trappistand if I don't set DISPLAY (and ssh is configured to act like this, as it is by default) I'll see them, but they'll be running on your box.09:47
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danbuntuarcasa - goto the kubuntu website and follow the instructions in order to update kde - it involes adding a repo and then doing an upgrade09:48
frojndok how can I install firefox 32bit on kubuntu09:48
frojnd(I have amd64)09:48
frojndand this tutorial is for ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:49
zorglu_frojnd: which part doesnt work ?09:49
trappistfrojnd: since I also have to worry about mplayer, wine, etc. I just set up a 32bit chroot and install regular 32bit packages in there09:49
frojndgksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc &09:49
zorglu_"gksudo gedit" should be replaced by "kdesu kate"09:49
ubuntu__mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab, any idea what to do, im booting from kubuntu live cd09:49
zorglu_the same as the previous one :)09:49
zorglu_frojnd: it means "launch a text editor as admin/root"09:50
frojndI see09:50
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frojndzorglu, I don't get the part when it says at this line to file. There are some links...09:52
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frojnddo I have to add html code ? :shy:09:53
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casper__hi... has anyone had success with installing Xgl/Compiz on Kubuntu 6.10/ATI ?09:53
zorglu_frojnd: ? which html code are your talking about09:53
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Hawkwindcasper__: I think several have.  Have you talked to the experts in #Ubuntu-XGL yet by chance ?09:53
frojndzorglu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava (part 5)09:53
frojndwhen I have to add text to file.09:54
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casper__Hawkwind: no I havnt... what server is that room on?09:54
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Hawkwindcasper__: This network of course.  Just type:  /join #Ubuntu-XGL09:54
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zorglu_frojnd: no, you simply put the text in the text file... the editor should be open via the 'kdesu kate'09:55
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brydennhmm i have an Adept Manager problem guys09:56
matadioHey09:56
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brydenni just installed Edgy Etf Beta and tried to update the system in Adept Manager09:56
brydennand it closed on me for some reason and every time i re-open it it says the process is still running and is in READ ONLY mode09:57
brydennhow do i fix that?09:57
matadioDoes Kubuntu support multiple processors, and if it does will it run with four of them?09:57
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_ShoGo_hi, could anyone give me a howto for compiz and xgl with ati?09:57
zorglu_brydenn: there is likely a lock remaining from the crash. you could reboot, or remove it by hand (harder and more dangerous)09:58
fdovingmatadio: yes. would run very good with four.09:58
matadioAwesome09:58
frojndzorglu: Create a new file for gdk-pixbuf.loaders  How can I do that09:58
zorglu_matadio: yes, would have to install server kenerl to take advange of them thos09:58
brydennzorglu_:  i've done 2 reboots. it's still there09:58
fdoving!adept crash fix > brydenn09:58
matadioThanks09:59
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intelikeythanks guys.09:59
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brydennfdoving: what exactly does that command do?10:01
BlackenI have an ATI Radeon x1300 and am running the ATI proprietary drivers. How do I "enable direct rendering," as Boson requires?10:01
fdovingbrydenn: finds the process locking the database (what makes the adept you start read-only), and ask you if you want to kill it or not.10:02
brydennhmm10:02
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brydenncuz i just pressed Y and it's doing all this stuff in the Konsole10:02
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brydennhaha hope its working ;)10:02
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brydennsweet. it worked. thanks fdoving10:03
fdovingbrydenn: ah.. yes, the second part 'dpkg --configure -a' will configure all unpacked and unconfigured packages. too.10:03
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matadioDoes Kubuntu come with WINE?10:03
brydennso basically it goes back through and finishes the process you were trying to do before the crash?10:03
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tomazmatadio: no, not comes with10:04
tomazbut ya can install very easily10:04
ArcasaBoobs.10:04
ArcasaNipples.10:04
ArcasaTits.10:04
frojnd:D10:04
ArcasaArse.10:04
ArcasaVagina.10:04
ArcasaTake your pick.10:05
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matadioOkay.10:05
zorglu_Arcasa: please avoid this kind of language here10:05
ArcasaI'm just trying to liven the place up!10:05
trappistArcasa: kindly refrain.10:05
ArcasaKnock knock.10:06
matadioSo just for my reference, it's Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome?10:06
Arcasa- Who's there?10:06
bLaZeDmatadio, yes10:06
ArcasaBoo.10:06
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matadioAwesome10:06
Arcasa-Boo who?10:06
matadioThanks guy's10:06
ArcasaDon't cry. It's only a joke!10:06
matadioArcasa: Please stop.10:06
bLaZeDmatadio, u where asking about kubuntu correct...10:06
matadioYes.10:06
bLaZeDthen yes10:06
trappist!ops10:06
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind10:06
bLaZeD=D10:06
ArcasaBritain.10:07
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gnomefreakty Hawkwind10:07
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matadioI've used Ubuntu, but I am getting a nice server with 4 processors, but I like KDE and was wondering if it was the same as Ubuntu minus the GUI10:07
matadioI was pretty sure it was.10:07
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: no problem.  Had my head in another channel :)10:07
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naragolhola10:10
naragolde que va esto?10:10
naragolcomo funciona?10:11
zorglu_!es10:11
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:11
naragolok, muchas gracias10:11
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zorglu_np10:11
naragolthank you, i wanted saing ;)10:11
cpk2matadio: if you dont want a gui you can just install from an alternate cd10:11
naragolbye10:11
matadioI know10:12
matadioHowever, I'd rather just not have to do it if I can avoid it10:12
cpk2also if you want wine the main dapper repo doesnt have a very new package for wine but i think the wiki gives you a repo that is updated regularly, or the wine page gives you the repo10:13
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arcasa_MUAHAHAHAHA10:19
arcasa_BATMAN10:19
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Hawkwindarcasa_: I assume you don't plan on stopping do you10:20
arcasa_I just did.10:20
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tomaz!pt10:27
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.10:28
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tomazthis is a female bot o.o10:28
cpk2lol10:28
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cpk2so is it bad if i try to bring up my wireless card that lspci lists as "Unknown device 0301"10:29
trappistcpk2: I *think* that just means the device id isn't in the database10:30
cpk2i think last time i tried to bring it up the whole system got angry10:30
trappistcpk2: which could be bad, as some drivers specifically look for a list of device ids that they support10:30
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cpk2ok now i know my system didnt like it because first google result had some guy with same problem (after bringing it up cant sudo and root programs dont work)10:32
fdovingcpk2: you can update the pciids with the 'update-pccids' script.10:32
cpk2fdoving: great now it knows the toplevel name but i still have this "Subsystem: RaLink: Unknown device 2561" is that a problem?10:33
cpk2and is it safe to try to bring up now?10:34
fdovingcpk2: sure.10:34
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cpk2hrmm lspci says the card is ra0 but ifup says its an unknown interface10:37
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_arne_wich of the kubuntu rooms are in swedish?10:38
Skrot!se10:39
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se10:39
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buzzy0how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!110:39
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buzzy0:$10:39
MotorCityMadManrunning kubuntu dapper is adept or synaptic recommended ?10:39
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cpk2well kubuntu comes with adept10:40
MotorCityMadMancpk2: yes but is synaptic recommended over adept ?10:41
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cpk2they both do the same job10:41
HawkwindMotorCityMadMan: It's all about personal choice really10:41
cpk2personally i use apt-get10:41
HawkwindMotorCityMadMan: Some like adept, some like aptitude, synaptic, some of us just use apt-get from CLI10:41
MotorCityMadMani like the apt-get me self. i like looking at those words in the shell10:42
oomph_7MotorCityMadMan: my advice wold be to learn apt-get the commands are pretty simple once you get into the habbit10:43
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buzzy0how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!110:44
buzzy0how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!110:44
buzzy0how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!110:44
buzzy0how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!110:44
buzzy0pleaseeeeeeeeee10:44
MotorCityMadManbuzzy0: did look at /boot/grub/menu.lst10:44
buzzy0maybe i havent installed it?10:44
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menace!lock10:44
SkrotJesus christ, buzzy0.. what do you want to change about your bootloader?10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:45
menacewhats the command to unlock adept?10:45
buzzy0people where can i edit my boot loader infos?10:45
MotorCityMadManmenace: sudo10:45
menaceno not that.10:45
menacehang on ill show you the error10:45
mikkomenace what you want to do ?10:46
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Skrotbuzzy0: By default, Kubuntu uses Grub. The Grub config file is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst -- you should edit that as sudo, since your regular user probably don't have the proper access10:46
trappist!adept crash fix10:46
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'10:46
MotorCityMadManbuzzy0: sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst from shell10:46
menaceYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.10:46
cpk2lol this companies "documentation" for using their wireless pci card is an html page of hexeditor or whatever10:46
menacethats my error10:46
trappistmenace: ^10:46
menacekk ty10:46
buzzy0Skrot:  tnx but i 'd like to do i t graphically10:46
buzzy0is there any interface? Skrot ?10:46
jatoskill any other package managers you hae open10:47
Skrotbuzzy0: No, there hasn't been made any GUI for editing grub as far as I know. You can edit the textfile in a graphical texteditor though10:47
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buzzy0ok10:47
buzzy0is there a config panel in kubuntu?10:47
buzzy0Skrot: ?10:47
jpiccolodoes linux eventually purge out ram that its not using?10:47
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jatosno Buzzy010:48
Skrotbuzzy0: Not for editing grub, no. But if you want to edit it, go to The K Menu -> Run -> Konsole. When you're in Konsole, type "sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst" and enter your password.10:48
jatoshes gone10:48
Skrotyeah10:48
Skrothehe10:48
MotorCityMadManUptime: 1 days, 12 hours and 46 minutes10:48
jatosmind I pm skrot?10:48
unix_infideljpiccolo: linux memory management is a bit more complex than windows memory management where you can use apps to "purge" memory.10:49
SkrotMotorCityMadMan: Are you using konversation?10:49
Skrotjatos: What's it about? I'm not logged in so I can't answer on privmsg's10:49
Dr_willislinux thinking.. when in doubt use memory to cache the drive.. release it as needed10:49
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jatosjust a question I rather not ask in public...10:49
SkrotTwo secs.10:49
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MotorCityMadManSkrot: yes and you ?10:50
Acidic31how do i get my Sony CyberShot DSC-T10 to work in KDE10:50
Acidic31works fine in Gnome10:50
ManeitThere, jatos10:50
ManeitMotorCityMadMan: Yes. But you where using /uptime, right? I made that script \o/10:50
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jpiccolounix_infidel, ok i was just wondering be cause i am messing with samba between 2 linux boxes, and the server box was at very low ram usage untill i started a large file transfer, then the ram went up. but i have since stopped the transfer and the ram usage is still high, is that ok?10:50
MotorCityMadManManeit: thank you10:50
sorush20what is the ubuntu kernel version in the alternet iso?10:51
unix_infideljpiccolo: yupp, i've never doubted linux memory management unless i've got some symptoms that i have to deal with.10:51
ManeitMotorCityMadMan: hehe, no problem. I made it 5 years ago or something, you're the first one I've ever seen using it besides me10:51
draikManeit, thanks for that script. Works wonders when fiance tells me to be quick on the desktop late at night10:51
unix_infideland the root of those symptoms are usually not the kernel itself but the app.10:51
MotorCityMadManSysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 1004 MHz (2011 bogomips), , RAM: 494/503MB, 121 proc's, 1.12d up10:51
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mikkoSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2600+ at 2079 MHz (4163 bogomips), , RAM: 637/1010MB, 97 proc's, 5.6h up10:52
sorush20!kernel10:52
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild10:52
jpiccolounix_infidel, ok yeah i figured it would be ok, i am messing around figuring out what i am going to need for a NAS box10:52
MotorCityMadMandamn i need more RAM10:52
unix_infideleveryone needs more RAM.10:52
draikI wish I can use more RAM10:52
draikI need more HDD space10:52
MotorCityMadMan200HDD here10:52
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draik500HDD10:53
draikwell, 580HDD10:53
MotorCityMadManyou the man10:53
draik250 + 250 + 8010:53
fdovinghint #kubuntu-offtopic hint.10:53
draikhardly10:53
Maneit1260HDD :(10:53
mikko:s10:53
ManeitI win10:53
draiksorry fdoving10:53
draikManeit, how many HDDs?10:53
Maneit4*250, 2x12010:54
jpiccoloubuntu and kubuntu server install are exactly the same right?10:54
ManeitWay to be consistant with */x there.. hehe10:54
draikI'm in offtopic now10:54
Dr_willisthats almost enough for my porn.. err.. vacation videos...10:54
Dr_willis:)10:54
Maneithaha10:54
draiklol10:54
Dr_willisits for research!10:54
draikof course10:54
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fdovingjpiccolo: there is no,  kubuntu-server, is there?10:54
draikwhen isn't it?10:54
Dr_willisIm working for Mr. Foley!10:54
unix_infidelDr_willis:10:54
unix_infidel?10:54
draikMr. Foley, why does that sound familiar?10:55
ManeitDr_willis: Guess you're a gynecologist then10:55
Dr_willisand Bill Clinton. :)10:55
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draiklol10:55
Dr_willisdraik,  hes all over the Drive By MEdia at the moment.10:55
jpiccolofdoving, i have a disc that is10:55
Dr_willis"explisit 'instant messanges' to pages, and other young kids... supposubly'10:55
jpiccolofdoving, kubuntu non-live cd10:55
fdovingjpiccolo: ah, the alternate cd?10:56
jpiccolofdoving, yeah10:56
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fdovingjpiccolo: that's not the server cd, however you can install a minimal system from it.10:56
jpiccoloi am guessing that the install would be the same10:56
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jpiccolooh really10:56
jpiccoloit says server install in the menu10:56
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draikIs there a diff between Kubuntu CD and Kubuntu DVD?10:57
draikother than the obvious CD and DVD10:57
fdovingdraik: more packages on the dvd.10:57
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fdovingjpiccolo: ok, then i think there is a difference.. but i'm not sure.10:57
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draikfdoving, nothing more than packages?10:58
jpiccolook, so if i want smallest running system go with the ubuntu server install10:58
fdovingdraik: not that i'm aware of, what would you expect? free music and movies? :)10:58
draiklol10:58
draikno10:58
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sorush20anyone here image their boot partition?10:59
sorush20auto image..10:59
fdovingjpiccolo: the packages will probably be the same.. but with the server install cd, you'll get more 'server packages' on the cd, with the kubuntu alternate cd, you can install the same packages, but you'll have to download them from the repositories over itnernet.10:59
fdovingsorush20: i use partimage once a week.10:59
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sorush20fdoving: partimage it is then great..11:00
jpiccolofdoving, ok so the running process's should be the same11:00
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fdovingjpiccolo: as far as i know, yes.11:01
draikfdoving, I'm not sure what I was expecting, to be honest.  I was thinking there'd be more to it like a better or higher (?) kernel or KDE or something.11:01
cpk2if i need to install a driver for a pci device I can just use a module correct?11:01
cpk2install a driver from source*11:01
fdovingdraik: no, just more software on the disc, so you won't need to download everything from the internet when installiing from adept/apt.11:01
sorush20is partimage.org down?11:01
draikI have fallen in love with apt-get11:02
fdovingcpk2: working on the wifi stuff? try 'apt-cache search ralink'11:02
draikHow do you author a CD/DVD?11:02
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draikI heard about making your own CD/DVD from your current installs11:02
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fdovingsorush20: works for me.. partimage.org that is.11:03
draikAm I outdated/wrong/misinformed/???11:03
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cpk2fdoving: unfortunatly those 2 arent my card =( but i got the source from the chip maker11:03
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fdovingdraik: this might be usefull for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e0611:04
fdovingcpk2: ah.. ok.11:04
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cpk2fdoving: I just dont really want to have to rebuild my kernel11:06
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fdovingcpk2: no, you only need to build the module.11:06
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draikfdoving, that was exactly what I was looking for, thank you11:10
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BonBonTheJonbye!11:16
BonBonTheJonalso duie11:16
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ypsilagood evening11:19
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ypsilaanybody in here?11:21
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[GuS] people, some knows an app. to take snapshots (or record) from a webcam and upload to ftp? (other than camstream)11:24
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amaikopress print screen11:26
ypsila[gijoe] :11:26
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octan[GuS]  xawtv11:26
ypsila[GuS] : sorry; I do not know much about it11:26
[GuS] ok11:26
[GuS] amaiko, is not what i mean..........11:26
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[GuS] maybe webcamd will do the job11:28
[GuS] with camstream i have problems to enable 2 webcam, same model11:28
ypsila[GuS] :  I'm just a kubuntu beginner, but we used to save webcam as jpg and then ftp, but I guess thats not wha you want to achieve11:28
[GuS] no11:28
[GuS] i need something like camstream indeed11:28
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ypsilaa permanent upstream?11:29
octanGuS motion11:29
[GuS] yes11:29
[GuS] octan, ?11:29
octanit takes a snap every time something moves11:29
ypsilasorry if my questions seem ridicoulus to you, I try to understand11:29
[GuS] mm11:29
[GuS] let me check11:29
octanits called motion11:29
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ypsilaoctan:  I got that feature on my logitec, but never had the intention to put it to the weg11:30
ypsilab11:30
[GuS] only on motion octan ?11:30
[GuS] i need to take snap every X seconds11:30
[GuS] not every motion11:30
octanGuS check it out... make it has some otions like that too11:30
[GuS] ok11:31
[GuS] thanks11:31
[GuS] yango, http://www.gdnet.com.ar/modules/webcam/ is what i am configuring11:31
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[GuS] that usign camstream11:31
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[GuS] mm nice, motion is on repositories11:32
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[GuS] is GUI or console app octan ?11:32
octancli11:32
hussamI noticed this. http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/pool-edgy , Does this mean that edgy will have kde 3.5.5?11:32
[GuS] Ok11:32
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[GuS] thanks for the info octan  ;)11:33
octannp11:33
octan[GuS] , its perfect for web use.. cos thers no reason recording when something is not happening,, right,,so  you only want to record something thats moving11:34
judith_how can I make VLC handle yahoo video?11:34
[GuS] ok, i know11:34
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[GuS] just i want to take snap every 10 s.11:34
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octan[GuS] , yes motion can do that,, it can snap every 10 sec as long as there is motion :)11:35
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ypsilabut not without11:35
hussamHi Riddell, will these kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/pool-edgy be uploaded to edgy?11:36
ypsila[GuS] :  with an ordinary camera this should work11:36
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octanwhy you wanna record a still pic?11:36
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[GuS] ?11:37
ypsilaoctan: why not? we did that to see the moon "walk"11:37
steveireHey, I was trying to install something from source and I got this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!11:37
[GuS] octan, i think thats is for me... if i want to record still pics.. right? :)11:37
steveireAny idea what I should do about that?11:37
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judith_steveire: install the build-essential package11:38
ypsilasteveire: repositories?11:38
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judith_steveire: install the build-essential package and anything like "xlibs*"11:38
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steveirejudith_: I've got it already. I'll look for the libs11:39
Sanne_steveire: you probably need the X development packages, maybe xlibs-dev11:39
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judith_how can I make VLC handle yahoo video? Right now, Totem is the default and it cannot handle the stuff!11:41
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steveireHmm, Sanne_, that package wants to install a lot of other stuff...11:41
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steveireI'll go for it anyway11:41
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Sanne_steveire: yes, this is a meta package11:42
steveireWhat's VLC?11:42
Sanne_steveire: maybe you only need some of those dependencies11:42
[GuS] mmm11:42
[GuS] i jave same problem11:42
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steveireSanne_: Right, but the meta-package is catch-all11:42
[GuS] seems having two same webcams... just can use one :(11:42
[GuS] (same model)11:42
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ypsila[GuS] : so one gets priority?11:43
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Sanne_steveire: maybe try with libx11-dev first, also look here for descriptions of all those dev packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/oldlibs/xlibs-dev11:43
[GuS] yes.. one or another11:43
[GuS] i can use boths11:43
[GuS] cant*11:43
Bandwidthhey peoples11:43
ypsila[GuS] :  seems logical11:44
ypsilahallo Bandwidth11:44
[GuS] why?11:44
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islam_http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf11:44
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[GuS] are in diff. usb ports.-..11:44
steveireI've already installed the meta package, I'm getting the same situation now with Qt though.11:44
ypsila[GuS] : conlfict? which is first and which is second?11:44
[GuS] i will test iwth 2 diff webcams...11:44
[GuS] to see11:44
ypsila[GuS] :  drivers11:45
steveireSanne_: Is there qt-dev or something like that?11:45
Sanne_steveire: you need to have the *dev packages of every library your compilation wants to link to11:45
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Sanne_steveire: search for something starting with libqt and ending with -dev ;)11:46
Sanne_steveire: does the error mention a specific file it doesn't find?11:46
[GuS] ypsila, webcam works great, drivers works great11:47
[GuS] thats is not the problem11:47
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ypsila[GuS] : what did you do?11:47
steveireSanne_: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!11:48
[GuS] ?11:48
steveireFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.11:48
[GuS] ypsila, just to make you sure, i am not a newbie :)11:48
steveireI see nothing of interest in the config.log though.11:48
ypsila[GuS] : you said: two identical webcams :-D