[12:10] <LeeJunFan> !java
[12:10] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:11] <LeeJunFan> ubotu: tell LeeJunFan about !glx
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about !glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <LeeJunFan> colinguist: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[12:12] <colinguist> ATI Radeon 9600
[12:12] <colinguist> and I've just installed fglrx
[12:13] <colinguist> I'm trying disabling composite in xorg.conf
[12:13] <colinguist> Let's see what that breaks :p
[12:14] <LeeJunFan> colinguist: no - you need to do that.
[12:14] <colinguist> Alright, the error is gone
[12:15] <colinguist> For some reason, glxgears runs fine for around 5 seconds, then slows to a crawl
[12:15] <Authority> ok, seriously, how does one install mplayer on kubuntu?  none of the howtos on the web actually work.
[12:16] <draik> anyone here know of any dance channels?
[12:16] <draik> Specifically dancing salsa
[12:16] <hyper> LeeJunFan: multiverse is enabled but apt-cache search java5 returns nothing
[12:16] <cl187> !wireless
[12:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:17] <LeeJunFan> !info sun-java5-jre
[12:17] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[12:18] <LeeJunFan> hyper: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[12:18] <hyper> edgy
[12:19] <LeeJunFan> hyper: me too.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> it installs -jre and -bin among other ones
[12:19] <hyper> LeeJun: java-gcj-compat-plugin --> that works
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ick
[12:19] <LeeJunFan> hyper: I see about 10 packages that match java5 when I apt search
[12:20] <gnomefreak> LeeJunFan: search java theres even more
[12:21] <LeeJunFan> hyper: I don't know why it wouldn't be there for you, are you sure you have enabled the proper multiverse lines? not the source, updates or backports?
[12:21] <hyper> LeeJun: http://www.phpfi.com/159610
[12:22] <hyper> LeeJun: Oh, it's the backports ^^
[12:22] <LeeJunFan> hyper: yep.
[12:23] <LeeJunFan> hyper just add multiverse to lines 16 and 17
[12:24] <hyper> LeeJun: Did so already and fetching 30MB of archives now
[12:25] <hyper> if I could get my bt headset to work and if skype would support also video I'd be happy :)
[12:25] <cl187> odd, my card sees networks, but wont connect to them
[12:26] <cl187> was working, but kept faiding every few min
[12:26] <cl187> now it wont work at all
[12:27] <shardz> I'm trying to boot the kubuntu installer, I checked the disk for errors, and I found none, but the CD just hangs after the progress bar reaches the end.
[12:27] <zuus> can anybody help me with fglrx issues??
[12:28] <shardz> Is it a one-cd problem? Or do I need to do something?
[12:28] <LeeJunFan> zuus: what fglrx problem?
[12:29] <LeeJunFan> shardz: how did you check for errors?
[12:29] <zuus> fglrxinfo returns mesa as the driver and dri fails to load
[12:29] <LeeJunFan> shardz: with md5sum?
[12:29] <shardz> LeeJunFan: with md5sum before burning, and the on-CD util
[12:29] <markc> is it possible to use nvidia drivers with edgy yet ?
[12:29] <LeeJunFan> zuus: how did you install fglrx?
[12:30] <shardz> startx complains about "no matching device section" and VESA(0) Cannot read V_BIOS
[12:30] <ok> hello.i haveproble with Adept...i want to download "ndiswrapper" but tell:    BREAK INSTALL why? :-(
[12:30] <zuus> from the wiki
[12:30] <zuus> but when I tried sudo module-assistant it said it was an unrecognized command
[12:31] <shardz> LeeJunFan: it's the AMD64 version, if that would matter, I dont know how long Kubuntu has been doing 64bit
[12:31] <colinguist> Hmmm... DVD playback is really choppy
[12:32] <colinguist> I've done the DMA thing, and downloaded the CSS libs
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> shardz: hrm, I dunno. 64 bit shouldn't matter. Maybe doing text install or using alternate CD would work better.
[12:33] <shardz> and what's the root password?
[12:33] <shardz> for the liveCD
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> shardz: there isn't one.
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> shardz: just do sudo -s
[12:33] <shardz> LeeJunFan: so how do you su?
[12:33] <shardz> ok
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> or sudo -i
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> zuus: you installed the xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted modules?
[12:34] <main2> when i start tightvncserver with sudo, i still see a access denied error in my log file (it wont open the desktop) access to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Access Denied
[12:34] <main2> am i overlooking something, or what am i doing wrong? :)
[12:35] <LeeJunFan> zuus: could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[12:35] <shardz> LeeJunFan: I'm gonna try to copy my old xorg.conf
[12:37] <zuus> sure
[12:37] <shardz> LeeJunFan: for the record, it works
[12:39] <zuus> whats pastebin?
[12:39] <LeeJunFan> shardz: good job :)
[12:39] <LeeJunFan> !pastebin
[12:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:39] <shardz> zuus: emerge nopaste
[12:39] <shardz> fuck sorry
[12:39] <shardz> I'm dual booting Gentoo.. heh
[12:39] <shardz> zuus: ignore me
[12:39] <hyper> LeeJun: when I put a star/stop/restart script into /etc/init.d, how can I make it start from boot?
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> zuus: you want to open a console and 'kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' copy the entire contents and paste it on pastebin.
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> hyper: take a look at /etc/rc2.d directory, there you will find links to the (S)tart and (K)ill scripts in /etc/init.d
[12:41] <zuus> k
[12:41] <zuus> done
[12:41] <LeeJunFan> hyper: the S01, S05, etc... corresponds to the order in which they start up. so just go to /etc/rc2.d and ln -s ../init.d/[yourscript]  S80yourscript - or whatever.
[12:42] <LeeJunFan> zuus: normally you would want to post the link back here for the person helping you.
[12:42] <zuus> ah
[12:42] <zuus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25530/plain/
[12:43] <Slynderdale> Hmm, how does one install the make/compile options in ubuntu?
[12:43] <hyper> LeeJun: thx
[12:44] <josh_> my drive is full lmao
[12:44] <zuus> any suggestions?
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> zuus: well, xorg config looks good from what I can tell there. It's either loading the wrong driver or the wrong lib, if it's loading the wrong driver it will fall back to MESA.
[12:44] <josh_> my 160 gig is being rma'd
[12:44] <josh_> so i'm on 2.4 gigs
[12:44] <josh_> is there any way to clean up files?
[12:44] <josh_> like deleting packages you dont need
[12:45] <zuus> ive tried installing the drivers several times, and with clean (k)ubuntu installs
[12:45] <zuus> currently i am using 8.24 because of my graphics card
[12:46] <zuus> I think the problem lies with dri
[12:46] <zuus> but I dont know how to fix it
[12:47] <colinguist> exit
[12:47] <colinguist> Gah, sorry
[12:47] <colinguist> IRC != Terminal :po
[12:48] <hyper> g'night everyone
[12:48] <[-KaSatKa-] > I have a computer with windows xp that is sharing a dvd drive, and I'm trying to install something from dvd, but it needs to be mounted, how can I mount a network drive?
[12:48] <hyper> LeeJun: thx for the help
[12:49] <LeeJunFan> zuus: try this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25531/
[12:49] <Tumaini> Here's a probably quite easy question for you: how do you become root, so you can change files in folders belonging to root?
[12:49] <LeeJunFan> zuus: it's helped me in the past when dri was loading wrong modules.
[12:50] <[-KaSatKa-] > I have a computer with windows xp that is sharing a dvd drive, and I'm trying to install something from dvd, but it needs to be mounted, how can I mount a network drive?
[12:50] <macconline> hi, who use k3b? i have a question.... insert disc 8x, the soft tell mevelocity 8.2x, but are recording at 1.2x... why??
[12:51] <cpk2> macconline: buffer problems probably
[12:51] <Tumaini> Does anyone know how to become root?
[12:51] <BonBonTheJon> use sudo
[12:51] <BonBonTheJon> sudo command
[12:51] <zuus> are the export commands supposed to return anything?
[12:51] <Tumaini> How do I do that outside the terminal?
[12:52] <macconline> cpk2... but that is configurity?
[12:52] <BonBonTheJon> in kubuntu, use the run menu item, then use kdesu command
[12:52] <Tumaini> I just write kdesu? Thanks!
[12:52] <Slynderdale> Hmm, from what I gather, GCC compiling and the make command isn't shipped with Ubuntu, how does one go about installig it?
[12:53] <cpk2> Slynderdale: apt-get build-essentials
[12:53] <BonBonTheJon> Tumaini, type in kdesu before the command you want, it will then ask you for your password
[12:53] <Slynderdale> Thanks
[12:54] <Tumaini> Oh. I don't know what the command is. I want to create a text file in a certain folder, and put text in it and save it. Can I not become root outside the terminal?
[12:54] <Slynderdale> cpk2: E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[12:54] <BonBonTheJon> Tumaini, try kdesu kate
[12:54] <cpk2> macconline: not really sure but it is probably saving you from having a bad burn by preventing buffer under/over run by going slower
[12:54] <BonBonTheJon> then you can save as root anywhere
[12:54] <cpk2> !info build-essential
[12:54] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:54] <Tumaini> Ah, thanks! Of course!
[12:54] <cpk2> its build essential =P
[12:54] <BonBonTheJon> no problem
[12:54] <cpk2> with a hyphen
[12:55] <Slynderdale> cpk2: With or without? I tried with the hyphen, heres the command I used sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[12:56] <cpk2> Slynderdale: its build-essential i made a typo =)
[12:56] <Slynderdale> cpk2: That worked, thanks :)
[12:57] <couquinoux> t'es sur?
[12:59] <macconline> cpk2: but in xp work fine, so, any idea?? tks
[01:00] <josh_> i want to access the c drive through samba on my windows machine
[01:00] <josh_> but its asking for a password
[01:01] <josh_> i dont recall ever putting a password
[01:01] <josh_> is there a default username and pass or something?
[01:12] <BonBonTheJon> josh: you need to add a samba user
[01:32] <Tumaini> Is anyone here good with hotway?
[01:33] <Tumaini> I just can't seem to get it to work. It keeps telling me 'localhost' refused connection.
[01:37] <kutan> Hello people
[01:38] <otaku-san> !pastebin
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:39] <otaku-san> kutan: Hello, do you have a question?
[01:39] <kutan> I do
[01:39] <kutan> I'm trying to install XMMS
[01:39] <cpl-tnt44> can some 1 please tell me what is the command for exsample to insert windows xp driver (for wireless pcmcia card ) with ndiswrapper ?
[01:40] <kutan> and when I run configure, it gives me the error that I don't have glib installed.
[01:40] <kutan> but I just installed the latest version
[01:41] <kutan> what's up with that?
[01:41] <gameman73> Im getting poor performance with xgl, what should i check?
[01:41] <otaku-san> kutan: ohhh....actually having troubles simaliar to that....
[01:41] <gameman73> ATI vid card, 90% sure im running their drivers (never used an ati vid card under linux)
[01:42] <otaku-san> kutan: so I may not be the one to answer that...try later...most of the gurus of the forum get on later
[01:42] <kutan> Maybe I'll try #ubuntu.. I'm sure there's someone different on there that might know.
[01:42] <otaku-san> yes
[01:42] <otaku-san> that is a great idea
[01:43] <otaku-san> I think I'll try my prob there too....
[01:43] <mluser-work> Hello everyone.. I'm having a problem with kpersonalizer.  Everytime I start kde it comes up, even if I go through and set things up with it or if I simply skip the wizard.  Is there a file I can touch that will keep this thing from comming up everytime I log in?
[01:43] <M4X1MUM> guys how do i reformat a partition? which software to use?
[01:44] <joscha> mkfs.*
[01:44] <otaku-san> mluser-work: I have problems with this sometimes with other programs...try checking in the kicker for the little icon that comes up telling it on...I think kperson does that
[01:44] <shardz> Before install, do I need to configure repo's? And if so, what is the command?
[01:44] <joscha> @ M4X1MUM
[01:45] <M4X1MUM> do i type that in the terminal or what?
[01:45] <joscha> mkfs.ext3 for ext3, mkfs.raiser for raiserfs,....
[01:45] <otaku-san> mluser-work: if it's up when you shut down the box...it'll come up everytime you start up...actually I set up Amarok and The Gimp to do that
[01:45] <cpl-tnt44> Card: D-Link Airplus DWL 650+
[01:45] <cpl-tnt44> Chipset: ACX100
[01:45] <cpl-tnt44> pciid: 104c:8400
[01:45] <joscha> mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda2 for example
[01:45] <cpl-tnt44> can some 1 plz help me installing this card ?
[01:45] <joscha> formats hda2 with ext3
[01:45] <gameman73> cpl-tnt44: is that an atheros chipset card?
[01:45] <M4X1MUM> is there any gui version?
[01:45] <gameman73> qtparted
[01:45] <gameman73> maybe
[01:46] <gameman73> im sure it formats
[01:46] <cpk2> qtparted however doesnt seem to work with sata =\
[01:46] <cpk2> cfdisk is ncurses
[01:46] <cpk2> but doesnt format
[01:46] <M4X1MUM> aah im using sata2 at the moment
[01:46] <pberger> i have a DWL 510 running...
[01:46] <mluser-work> otaku-san: thanks.. I'll check into it
[01:46] <cpk2> just makes a partition
[01:46] <pberger> maybe it helps you?
[01:46] <otaku-san> mluser-work: no prob
[01:46] <M4X1MUM> nah i have a partition with NTFS, i want to convert it to ext3
[01:47] <cpk2> M4X1MUM: you could try using qtparted but when i tried it with my sata drive the app would crash
[01:47] <M4X1MUM> since some people says its not recomended to write to NTFS format? such as for bittorrent
[01:47] <cpk2> M4X1MUM: if qtparted works that will be super easy
[01:48] <Kr4t05> M4X1MUM: Do you have data on that partition?
[01:48] <M4X1MUM> nope its empty, i already backup all the data to prepare for the reformat
[01:48] <Slynderdale> How do you tell what version of KDE you have?
[01:49] <MotorCityMadMan> Slynderdale: help/about
[01:50] <MotorCityMadMan> 3.5.4 newest
[01:50] <cpk2> M4X1MUM: have you tried qtparted yet?
[01:51] <M4X1MUM> command not found
[01:51] <cpk2> M4X1MUM: apt-get it
[01:51] <Slynderdale> MotorCityMadMan: How do you get the newest version under Kubuntu?
[01:51] <cpl-tnt44> how can i know what version is my ndiswrapper ? what is the command ? plz some 1
[01:51] <M4X1MUM> ok
[01:52] <MotorCityMadMan> Slynderdale: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.4.php
[01:52] <otaku-san> kutan: not having luck?
[01:53] <kutan> Nope, I just gave up and installed it through the Adept package manager. :P
[01:53] <MotorCityMadMan> cpl-tnt44: did you install ndiswrapper ?
[01:53] <cpl-tnt44> yeap
[01:53] <cpl-tnt44> some 1 from here gave me the command...
[01:53] <cpl-tnt44> the problem its doing some errors
[01:54] <cpl-tnt44> and in the guide it says maybe reinstalling will be better
[01:54] <M4X1MUM> aaah i think ill try with the mkfs, now i know the harddisk mount thingy
[01:54] <otaku-san> kutan: hahaha sorry...ya I saw...it's always best to do that first...then fall back on compiling....
[01:54] <cpl-tnt44> so i wanna know what version i have ...
[01:54] <Kr4t05> "We don't agitate the dots."
[01:54] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: you can apt-get ndiswrapper, it will give you the newest package on the repo
[01:54] <M4X1MUM> but can i rename it? /media/sda8 to say /media/Archive??
[01:55] <MotorCityMadMan> cpl-tnt44:open ndiswrapper | go to help tab/about
[01:55] <otaku-san> well try to find a deb package first...then try a gzip, bzip...and then binary
[01:55] <Kr4t05> M4
[01:55] <cpl-tnt44> MotorCityMadMan :  how do i open it ? ( i always used console ...)
[01:55] <Kr4t05> M4X1MUM: change your /etc/fstab file
[01:55] <otaku-san> kutan: I mean after you checked adept
[01:55] <Nikola-rs> Today I asked here for a way to fix grub after windows 'fixmbr' command, and someone gave me one verry useful link...  but I lost it :(
[01:55] <kutan> yeah
[01:55] <kutan> I understand
[01:55] <Nikola-rs> can someone find it ?
[01:55] <Kr4t05> Or, create a symbolic link. ;)
[01:56] <cpl-tnt44> MotorCityMadMan : u know what maybe im doing something wronge from the begginning lets restart that shit...
[01:56] <M4X1MUM> theres nothing in that directory
[01:56] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: did you get the windows driver already?
[01:56] <M4X1MUM> ooh oops its a file, didn't read properly
[01:56] <alan42> #linuxquestions
[01:56] <cpl-tnt44> MotorCityMadMan : can u recommand me of the best way installing a wireless pcmcia card all i have is the windows xp drivers for it...
[01:56] <cpl-tnt44> YES
[01:57] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: .inf?
[01:57] <Slynderdale> Hmm, is there a 'deb' command in kubuntu?
[01:57] <cpl-tnt44> yeap airplus.inf
[01:57] <otaku-san> !language
[01:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:57] <cpl-tnt44> D-Link Airplus DWL 650+ ,Chipset: ACX100
[01:57] <cpl-tnt44> i need the ndis right ?
[01:57] <otaku-san> M4X1MUM: A bit late but watch the cussing
[01:58] <otaku-san> ahhhh wrong person
[01:58] <M4X1MUM> > /media/sda8 is not a block special device.   what is that mean? should i just proceed formatting it?
[01:58] <M4X1MUM> hahaha
[01:58] <otaku-san> sorry M4X1MUM
[01:58] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: did you get a .sys file?
[01:58] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 : yes
[01:59] <cpl-tnt44> inf sys and bin
[01:59] <cpl-tnt44> all on my desktop ...
[01:59] <cpl-tnt44> now what ?
[01:59] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: Yo!
[01:59] <cpl-tnt44> i open the terminal and ?
[01:59] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: and you did ndiswrapper -i/dir/to/.inf
[01:59] <cpl-tnt44> yes ... and it failed ..
[01:59] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: i think so
[01:59] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: how?
[02:00] <M4X1MUM> aaaah cannot work :(
[02:00] <Slynderdale> otaku-san: Thanks again for your help the other day, that IFS EXT2 thing worked like a charm. ANyways, how are you tday?
[02:00] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 , just a sec let me retype it i will tell what it wrote ...
[02:00] <M4X1MUM> sudo mkfs.ext3 /media/sda8  <-- give me error when trying to reformat
[02:00] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper --version might tell you a version number
[02:00] <cpk2> M4X1MUM: did you unmount it?
[02:00] <cpl-tnt44> cp2k , btw what is the desktop dir ?
[02:01] <M4X1MUM> ooh not yet
[02:01] <M4X1MUM> how to unmount?
[02:01] <cpl-tnt44> home\desktop\ ?
[02:01] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: probably /home/cp-tnt44/desktop
[02:02] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: Wow!  Awesome...man.  It is very nice, eh?  I am doing pretty well....having probs still with compiling...*backhands box* hehehe
[02:02] <cpk2> desktop is Desktop acutally
[02:02] <cpl-tnt44> mmm second letme chk i dont think the cpl-tnt44 exsist ...
[02:02] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: how are you?
[02:02] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: whatever user you are logged in as ><
[02:02] <cpl-tnt44> the command again ? ndiswrapper -i dir/*..inf ?
[02:02] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[02:03] <M4X1MUM> how to unmount the hd?
[02:03] <cpk2> umount
[02:04] <cpl-tnt44> he writes me back unable to cr8 directory .. make sure u r running as root
[02:04] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 ...
[02:04] <cpl-tnt44> ^^^
[02:04] <M4X1MUM> still give me same error :(
[02:04] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: i would put the files in their own directory in your home folder
[02:04] <Slynderdale> otaku-san: I'm doing well, though just a bit tired from work. CUrrently I'm trying to figure out how to updae KDE on Kubuntu. *Is still a linux newbie*
[02:05] <M4X1MUM> I get this error > mkfs.ext3: Device size reported to be zero....
[02:05] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 sec...
[02:05] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: update????  What version are you...your not trying for version 4?
[02:05] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 : what files ? inf sys and bin ?
[02:05] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: yeah, dunno if you need the bin but i guess it wont hurt
[02:06] <cpk2> M4X1MUM: unmount the hard drive then run cfdisk first
[02:06] <cpl-tnt44> i have like 4 bins here how would i know which one ?
[02:06] <cpk2> .sys and .inf are the important ones
[02:06] <Slynderdale> otaku-san: I have 3.5.2 and wanted to update to the latests table KDE version, which is 3.5.4
[02:06] <M4X1MUM> i get error too :( it says its read only
[02:06] <cpk2> M4X1MUM: check mount to make sure it isnt mounted
[02:07] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 ok thanks , give me sec ..
[02:07] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: try adept
[02:08] <M4X1MUM> damn i got to go, i'll be back!!! in about 8-10 hours!!
[02:08] <cpk2> Slynderdale: did you add the repo from the kubuntu site to upgrade?
[02:08] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: hehehe not many gurus on right now....cpk2 knows his stuff...and there he is
[02:08] <fatejudger> is there really a difference between dist-upgrading to edgy vs install the fresh iso?
[02:08] <cpk2> psh I am *not* a "guru"
[02:09] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 : i cant paste it to home directory ...
[02:09] <cpl-tnt44> maybe on the root ?
[02:09] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: why not?
[02:09] <cpl-tnt44> dunno !
[02:09] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: no you do not need root to do it
[02:09] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[02:09] <Slynderdale> cpk2: Which repository?
[02:09] <otaku-san> cpk2: more than I am...by a long shot..so your...higher edumacated......hehehe doesn't it come with the repos already
[02:09] <Ash-Fox> Anybody know of a alternative to XMPlay, I can't find a single mod player that can play multi-track XM files properly.
[02:09] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: are you logged in as the user whose /home you are trying to move the files to?
[02:10] <cpk2> Slynderdale: one second let me get it
[02:10] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: hold on...let me get the path
[02:11] <otaku-san> or cpk2 can get it....I have to do a bit of searching...found the gpg keyys
[02:11] <cpl-tnt44> yes
[02:11] <otaku-san> keys*
[02:11] <cpk2> Slynderdale: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[02:11] <cpl-tnt44> ok i can copy the files to : /home/idan(the user )
[02:12] <cpl-tnt44> but cant put them on \home
[02:12] <cpk2> i think sourceomatic has the repo for it as well
[02:12] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: when we say /home we mean the users /home dir which would be /home/idan for you
[02:12] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 : ok i got it now ...
[02:13] <MotorCityMadMan> Slynderdale: didn't i just give you that url ?
[02:13] <cpl-tnt44> now i have 2 files : airplus.inf and airplus.sys ....
[02:13] <cpl-tnt44> good...
[02:13] <cpl-tnt44> in home/idan
[02:13] <cpl-tnt44> now what is the command again ?
[02:13] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: put them in /home/idan/wirelesscard or somesuch
[02:14] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[02:14] <cpk2> cleanliness is very helpful
[02:14] <cpl-tnt44> they /home/idan/wire
[02:14] <cpk2> you want want a kajillion files floating around in your home dir
[02:14] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper -i airplus.inf
[02:14] <cpk2> wont want*
[02:14] <Slynderdale> cpk2: SO basicly add that and use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[02:15] <MotorCityMadMan> kajillion <-- how much is that ?
[02:15] <cpk2> Slynderdale: dont even think you need to dist upgrade to update kde
[02:15] <cpk2> MotorCityMadMan: aprox. 5 x 33!
[02:15] <cpk2> =D
[02:16] <Slynderdale> http://www.tilansia.com/sizechart.html
[02:16] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 : listen to this .
[02:16] <otaku-san> .....speaking of floating files and kajillion....I think I need to nuke some files
[02:16] <cpl-tnt44> command : ndiswrapper -i home\idan\wire\airplus.inf
[02:17] <cpl-tnt44> installinf homeidanwireairplus
[02:17] <cpk2> i hope you didnt do forwardslashes
[02:17] <cpk2> err DID do
[02:17] <MotorCityMadMan> cpl-tnt44: --> / this way
[02:17] <otaku-san> ya make sure to back slash
[02:17] <cpk2> I am making some bad typos today
[02:17] <cpl-tnt44> unable to create directory /etc/ndiswrapper/homeidanwireairplus.Make sure you are running as root
[02:18] <cpl-tnt44> ok back slashes ?
[02:18] <otaku-san> who is this Johnathan Riddle....his keys are everywhere!
[02:18] <otaku-san> yes
[02:18] <cpk2> hmm yeah i guess ndiswrapper does need root
[02:18] <cpl-tnt44> can u put down the right command for it plz ... im kinda new although i think i know ..
[02:18] <cpl-tnt44> what is this root ?
[02:18] <ubuntu> newbie<----- how can i access my harddrive's file using a kubuntu livecd
[02:19] <MotorCityMadMan> think of root as low drag
[02:19] <cpk2> sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/idan/iputwireless/here.inf
[02:19] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: root is the master of th universe
[02:19] <MotorCityMadMan> or under the hood
[02:20] <cpl-tnt44> how do i ok now i get couldn't copy /home/idan/wire/airplus.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135
[02:20] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 ... u got the error ?
[02:20] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: ok put the sourcelist on (/etc/apt/sources.list) you'll need to open up kate(or other text editor) in root so type kdesu kate in konsole
[02:21] <ubuntu> i cant mount my harddrive on livecd.... mount: can't find /dev/hda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:21] <cpk2> thats an odd error
[02:21] <cpl-tnt44> that what it did b4 ...
[02:21] <cpl-tnt44> thats the error i was trying to post here
[02:21] <cpk2> what does ndiswrapper -l give you?
[02:21] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: then open the sources.list file in the rooted kate...at the bottom put the whole source...
[02:22] <cpl-tnt44> installed ndis drivers : airplus invalid driver!
[02:22] <cpl-tnt44> and driverswinxpairplus invalid driver
[02:23] <cpk2> so maybe thats way it isnt installing =P
[02:23] <cpl-tnt44> maybe ...
[02:23] <cpl-tnt44> but still .. doesnt sounds good ...
[02:23] <cpl-tnt44> now what ?
[02:23] <cpl-tnt44> lets try the next step ?
[02:24] <kutan> Can anyone tell me why su won't work?
[02:24] <otaku-san> cuz su is debian
[02:24] <otaku-san> sudo is ubuntu kubuntu
[02:24] <cpk2> su DOES work
[02:24] <otaku-san> it does?!?!?!!
[02:24] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 u with me ?
[02:24] <cpk2> but you would need to set it up for
[02:24] <kutan> I mean when I use the password it says it's a bad pass
[02:24] <otaku-san> just do sudo...
[02:24] <kutan> but I know it's good
[02:25] <cpk2> kutan: obviously its not good =)
[02:25] <cpl-tnt44> what's sudo btw ?
[02:25] <MotorCityMadMan> kdesu
[02:25] <cpl-tnt44> i mean whats that command means ?
[02:25] <cpk2> and the rule of thumb is if you cant figure it out then you really shouldnt be told =P
[02:25] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: sudo does the command as root
[02:25] <cpl-tnt44> oh ! ok !
[02:25] <cpl-tnt44> now all comes together...
[02:25] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: sudo = super user do
[02:25] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 thanks..
[02:25] <otaku-san> ahhh now he you know
[02:26] <cpl-tnt44> btw what is the next step ?
[02:26] <cpl-tnt44> in installing that driver ?
[02:26] <otaku-san> he knows....you know...whats the diff....darn typo
[02:26] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: sudo ndiswrapper -e nameofdriverinstalled
[02:26] <cpk2> that will remove them
[02:26] <oggb4mp3> Riddell: ping
[02:26] <cpl-tnt44> btw im working ubuntu not kubuntu .. no diff right ?
[02:26] <paddy2k> does anyone know why a simple su command returns "Authentication Failure"?
[02:26] <cpk2> kubuntu is ubuntu
[02:27] <otaku-san> cpl-tnt44: not really...different apps here and there...but same thing
[02:27] <otaku-san> ....cpk2 puts it in 3 words
[02:27] <kutan> cpk2, when I use the command passwd to change my root pass it says it changes to the one I specify, meaning I'm using the correct password.
[02:28] <otaku-san> cpk2: AHA you su theory is being proven wrong! ;)
[02:28] <MotorCityMadMan> KDE su was developed for use with KDE
[02:28] <otaku-san> paddy2k: use sudo
[02:28] <kutan> and there's a problem with using sudo for some reason..
[02:28] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 ,remind me why we removing them ?
[02:28] <kutan> I mean a problem with using sudo and ./
[02:28] <paddy2k> i know I do, but I read some docs that said su can be used too. I was wondering why it failed, thats all
[02:28] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 , after all we wanna install them dont we ?
[02:29] <angasule> !scanner
[02:29] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:29] <kutan> I've used su before
[02:29] <otaku-san> hmmm must be a bug....maybe
[02:29] <kutan> but there was an option someone told me to use which is the only way it worked
[02:29] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: invalid driver that usually means you dont wan it
[02:29] <kutan> actually I think it may have been an option with sudo, lemme check
[02:30] <cpk2> i just logged in as root using su -
[02:30] <cpk2> i dont see what the problem is
[02:30] <otaku-san> su won't work with apt-get install!
[02:30] <paddy2k> otaku-san: then i better let them know there is a bug in the ship-it cd
[02:30] <cpk2> otaku-san: eh? really?
[02:30] <pberger> paddy2k: sudo su
[02:30] <MotorCityMadMan> kdesu --help
[02:31] <kutan> oooooh sudo su works
[02:31] <otaku-san> cpk2: it says Unknown id: apt-get
[02:31] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 : so what do u suggest of doing now ?
[02:31] <paddy2k> pberger: thanks that works!
[02:31] <kutan> Second'd
[02:31] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 , switch an pcmcia adapter ? bcz i have a spare one of a diffrent company
[02:31] <cpk2> otaku-san: you do su -?
[02:31] <otaku-san> doesn't work for me....
[02:32] <otaku-san> cpk2: you mean su -
[02:32] <cpk2> otaku-san: yes
[02:32] <otaku-san> cpk2: do I put a space after the - ?
[02:32] <otaku-san> or just su -apt-get
[02:32] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: after you remove both those drivers (check by doing ndiwrapper -l) try to install the .inf again
[02:33] <pberger> otaku-san: sudo apt-get
[02:33] <cpk2> otaku-san: su is used to login as root
[02:33] <cpk2> ie root@localhost
[02:33] <paddy2k> i know konsole is hardcore but "kdesu adept" does everything I could ever need, nearly
[02:33] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: you should only have one .inf and one .sys in the folder
[02:33] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 ok !
[02:33] <GaiaX11> cpk2: Do you want to install your wireless card? Is it?
[02:34] <otaku-san> pberger: Hahahaha, ya I know...We're just testing something
[02:34] <cpl-tnt44> GaiaX11 . no his trying for myn which is getting to be quite annoying
[02:34] <cpk2> adept is nice if i am just looking for random things, otherwise it shows too much stuff
[02:34] <otaku-san> cpk2: so I just put in su...then do what I want in root?
[02:35] <cpk2> otaku-san: you probably want su -
[02:35] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: Trying for you?
[02:35] <otaku-san> cpk2: I did su - ....and it tells me Authentication Error
[02:35] <otaku-san> cpk2: OHHHH!!! sudo su - works
[02:35] <pberger> toaku-san: and sudo su - does not work?
[02:35] <cpk2> otaku-san: then you havent set a root password
[02:35] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: I did not get
[02:36] <pberger> toaku-san: ok, you got it
[02:36] <otaku-san> hahah ya
[02:36] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 : same error in line 135 !
[02:36] <otaku-san> .......um how do I get out of root??????
[02:36] <cpl-tnt44> invailed driver ..
[02:36] <cpk2> otaku-san: exit
[02:36] <cpl-tnt44> maybe it dont work ?
[02:37] <otaku-san> cpk2: ahhhh...ok I thought you had to first un root then exit....I use exit all the time
[02:37] <otaku-san> paddy2k: hahahaha, how?
[02:37] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: remove the driver and try putting the .bin in there, supposedly some drivers might need the .bin
[02:37] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: I had similar problems with my DWL-510 wireless. Some dirver versions work, others not.
[02:37] <paddy2k> root just crashed into me
[02:37] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: use latest ndiswrapper (build from source)
[02:38] <cpl-tnt44> u mean : sudo ndiswrapper -i /dir/blabla.bin ?
[02:38] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: and sometimes you have to edit the .inf-file
[02:38] <cpl-tnt44> pberger , now you talking ...
[02:38] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44 cpk2; What do you want guys?
[02:38] <otaku-san> paddy2k: root crashed into you????  Thats a bit impossible....
[02:38] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: no, put the .bin in with the .inf and .sys however you might need to compile, just trying to prevent having to compile since its not very beginner friendly
[02:39] <paddy2k> not when root is falling off a table!
[02:39] <cpl-tnt44> GaiaX11 , i want to install a wireless pcmcia card D-link DWL-650+
[02:39] <cpk2> GaiaX11: cpl-tnt44 is trying to set up a pcmcia wireless card with ndiswrapper
[02:39] <cpl-tnt44> compile ?
[02:39] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: for me the ubuntu ndiswrapper did not work...
[02:39] <GaiaX11> cpk2: Alright!
[02:39] <otaku-san> paddy2k: I am so confused......do you mean a real life root? or what! ;)
[02:40] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: dont worry compiling is the last option =)
[02:40] <cpk2> this is ubuntu after all, the point is to use packages!
[02:40] <paddy2k> otaku-san: no, no trees were hurt in the making of this lame joke, nite
[02:41] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 , ok now what ? put inside the Wire folder *.inf *.bin and *.sys ?
[02:41] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: Do you already have the headers installed?
[02:41] <cpk2> cpl-tnt44: yes
[02:41] <cpl-tnt44> headers ?
[02:41] <otaku-san> paddy2k: Hahaha, sorry I didn't catch it! Oh man...
[02:41] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: Your kernel headers
[02:41] <cpk2> GaiaX11: we are hoping we dont need to compile ndiswrapper
[02:42] <cpl-tnt44> Gaia dunno wut u talking about...
[02:42] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: If you don't, it will not work at all
[02:42] <cpl-tnt44> cpk2 ? whats he talking about ?
[02:42] <otaku-san> GaiaX11: your talking another language man....explain...this is a channel to help
[02:43] <otaku-san> shite...even I haven't grasped it all the way yet
[02:43] <otaku-san> sorry language
[02:43] <cpl-tnt44> i can see others are listening to this problem. ..
[02:43] <cpl-tnt44> we got an audience
[02:43] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: yes
[02:43] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: You have to install: ndiswrapper; kernel headers and have the .inf to do what you want
[02:43] <cpl-tnt44> ok Gaia lets try your way ...
[02:43] <cpl-tnt44> shot
[02:44] <cpl-tnt44> im in the terminal i have the drivers...
[02:44] <pberger> ok
[02:44] <pberger> type: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:44] <cpl-tnt44> sudo ndiswrapper showing no drivers installed... im clean
[02:45] <cpl-tnt44> pberger that meant for me ?
[02:45] <pberger> what ndiswrapper version are you using?
[02:45] <pberger> yes
[02:45] <cpk2> compiling != for newbies =\
[02:45] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: look in synaptic to see if your headers are installed
[02:45] <pberger> cpk2: it's not that difficult
[02:45] <cpl-tnt44> Gaia i go your way
[02:45] <cpl-tnt44> pberger just a sec ...
[02:46] <cpl-tnt44> sunaptic is where ?
[02:46] <cpl-tnt44> ok found it
[02:46] <GaiaX11> sudo synaptic &
[02:46] <otaku-san> cpk2: Once you get the basics down...how few there are...compilings not hard
[02:46] <cpl-tnt44> System >> Admin>> Sypatic..
[02:47] <otaku-san> cpk2: I'm no master...heck I still have probs but it always is a last resort
[02:47] <cpl-tnt44> Gaia u with me ?
[02:47] <cpl-tnt44> now i get 2 tables ...
[02:47] <cpl-tnt44> what package should i be looking for ?
[02:47] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: Yeah!
[02:48] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[02:48] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: linux-kernel-headers for you kernel version
[02:48] <cpl-tnt44> ok im on it ...
[02:49] <cpl-tnt44> how can i know if its installed or not ?
[02:49] <cpl-tnt44> it doesnt marked "V"
[02:49] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: is the little box green?
[02:49] <cpl-tnt44> nope...
[02:50] <cpl-tnt44> if i mark it ... it asks me if i wanna mark it for installation ...
[02:50] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: So. You have to choose the right kernel version and install the right linux headers for you
[02:51] <cpl-tnt44> ok ! f*** how do i know what is the right for me ?
[02:51] <cpl-tnt44> sound complicated...
[02:51] <cpl-tnt44> i thought i just mark it and click apply ? and it installs the package ..
[02:51] <cpl-tnt44> gaia
[02:51] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: just type in the console: sudo apt-get build-essential ... then you get everything we will need...
[02:52] <cpl-tnt44> gaia agree ?
[02:52] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: look and see what is your linux-image
[02:53] <cpl-tnt44> ok gaia i got few green boxes...
[02:53] <cpl-tnt44> linux=image-386
[02:53] <cpl-tnt44> linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[02:53] <cpl-tnt44> linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[02:53] <cpl-tnt44> alsa base
[02:53] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44:  The one the is running in your machine is the newest one
[02:54] <cpl-tnt44> so no problem ?
[02:54] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: xxx27xxx
[02:54] <cpl-tnt44> maybe we do what pberger told ? couldnt hurt ?
[02:55] <shadowhywind> does anyone have any ideas why wpa_supplicant would say my driver doesn't support WPA even though i know my driver does.. ?
[02:55] <pberger> shadowhywind: maybe another driver from ubuntu-standard is also loaded?
[02:56] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: So install the linux-kernel-headers
[02:56] <cpl-tnt44> gaia ok .. mark it and install
[02:56] <pberger> shadowhywind: for me, r8180 was loaded, so the ndiswrapper-driver did not work...
[02:56] <shadowhywind> pberger this only happens when i start wpa_supplicant with -Dndiswrapper
[02:56] <otaku-san> I think I'm going to change to XFCE....anyone use this?
[02:57] <pberger> shadowhywind: call wpa_supplicant with -dd for mor debug-info
[02:57] <GaiaX11> pberger: I use a rt8180 and it works great for me :-)
[02:57] <pberger> GaiaX11: with wpa?
[02:57] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: apt-get install ndiswrapper now
[02:58] <pberger> GaiaX11: wpa never worked for me with the r8180-module, only with ndiswrapper
[02:58] <GaiaX11> pberger: for me it works also with ndiswrapper
[02:59] <cpl-tnt44> gaiax11 ,just a second ... let it finish
[02:59] <GaiaX11> pberger: The other way I have not tried
[02:59] <pberger> GaiaX11: ubuntu loads r8180 automatically, i have to rmmod it
[02:59] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: Have you installed ndiswrapper from synaptic?
[03:00] <cpl-tnt44> nopw
[03:00] <cpl-tnt44> nope from the console
[03:00] <cpl-tnt44> with a command , i think it was something like u wrote
[03:00] <otaku-san> ok I'm off to change to Xfce...see ya
[03:00] <cpl-tnt44> restarting ubuntu , it did a system update from b4 ..
[03:00] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: apt-get install ndiswrapper is the same as doing it using synaptic
[03:01] <cpl-tnt44> oh ok !
[03:01] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: synaptic is the apt gui
[03:01] <shadowhywind> someone just suggested to me instaed of useing -Dndiswrapper to use -Dwext
[03:01] <cpl-tnt44> i see
[03:01] <cpl-tnt44> ok ubuntu is loading up ..
[03:01] <cpl-tnt44> just a sec ok
[03:01] <pberger> shadowhywind: i only use -Dwext
[03:01] <cpl-tnt44> omg ... p3 500mhz 64 mb of ram ...
[03:01] <cpl-tnt44> working like heaven this ubuntu ...
[03:02] <shadowhywind> brb, going to go try that
[03:02] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: Have you?
[03:02] <cpl-tnt44> have i ?
[03:02] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: does ndiswrapper shows a green box in synaptic?
[03:02] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: have a look there
[03:02] <cpl-tnt44> i dunno , u want me to chk ? of first type the install in the consol ?
[03:03] <cpl-tnt44> ok system is up ...
[03:03] <cpl-tnt44> now what ? check first or install ?
[03:03] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: check
[03:03] <cpl-tnt44> checking ...
[03:03] <cpl-tnt44> how does it call ? ndiswrapper ?
[03:04] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: yes
[03:04] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:05] <cpl-tnt44> ndiswrapper-utils 1.8-0ubuntu2
[03:05] <cpl-tnt44>  ok ?
[03:05] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: yes
[03:05] <cpl-tnt44> gaia ?
[03:05] <cpl-tnt44> seems to be installed..
[03:06] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: do you have the the .inf file in a cd windows installer?
[03:06] <cpl-tnt44> gaia?
[03:06] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: It is a folder
[03:06] <cpl-tnt44> no
[03:06] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: in the cd
[03:06] <cpl-tnt44> i dont have a cd - rom in this laptop ...
[03:06] <cpl-tnt44> i downloaded from the internet...
[03:07] <cpl-tnt44> i have the drivers for win 98 \2k\xp
[03:07] <physicsnick> *sigh*
[03:07] <physicsnick> problem, my microphone isn't sensitive enough.
[03:07] <cpl-tnt44> btw is there's a shortcut key to the terminal ?
[03:07] <physicsnick> under kmix input tab, i see only three sliders, all labelled "capture"
[03:07] <physicsnick> they all do nothing
[03:08] <physicsnick> no microphone boost
[03:08] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: do you have the folder with the inf file?
[03:08] <physicsnick> what am i doing wrong?
[03:08] <cpl-tnt44> yes i do ! gaia
[03:08] <cpl-tnt44> its under /home/idan/wire/____inf sys bins____ ok ?
[03:08] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: Are you sure that it is the right file for your card?
[03:09] <cpl-tnt44> Yes ... i checked and downloaded from the vendor site
[03:09] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: have you tested it in, say, window$?
[03:09] <shadowhywind_> thanks for all the help all, solved my wireless problem
[03:09] <cpl-tnt44> Card: D-Link Airplus DWL 650+
[03:09] <pberger> shadowhywind: good to hear
[03:10] <cpl-tnt44> your welcome !
[03:10] <cpl-tnt44> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#D
[03:10] <cpl-tnt44> got it from here
[03:10] <shadowhywind_> all that it was that stupid -ndiswrapper bit
[03:10] <cpl-tnt44> glad to hear :)
[03:10] <cpl-tnt44> at least some 1 is happy
[03:10] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: So, now put the folder in /usr/local/bin for example
[03:10] <physicsnick> :(
[03:11] <cpl-tnt44> u mean it will look like this : /usr/local/bin/wire/*.* ?
[03:11] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: enter there and try ndiswrapper -i blablabla.inf
[03:12] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: it should say: drive present, hardware present
[03:12] <cpl-tnt44> i cant copy the files\folder to the usr\loca\bin ...
[03:12] <cpl-tnt44> im back in the terminal ...
[03:13] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: you can use sudo cp
[03:13] <cpl-tnt44> im getting this line : installing airplus
[03:14] <cpl-tnt44> couldn't copy /home/idan/wire/airplus.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135
[03:14] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper -l
[03:14] <cpl-tnt44> this is the ultimate error !
[03:14] <cpl-tnt44> airplus invalid driver
[03:14] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: nothing?
[03:15] <cpl-tnt44> airplus invalid driver
[03:15] <cpl-tnt44> airplus invalid driver!
[03:15] <cpl-tnt44> it said it couldnt copy line 135 ... i guess the trick is in there
[03:15] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: I think that the driver is corrupted then
[03:15] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: did you use the win-xp driver?
[03:16] <cpl-tnt44> yes
[03:16] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: You have to download the driver again
[03:16] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: or use a newer version of ndiswrapper...
[03:16] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: the problem is in the driver. Because all tools are in your machine
[03:16] <cpl-tnt44> this is the newest ...
[03:16] <cpl-tnt44> ok ..
[03:17] <cpl-tnt44> maybe lets try a diffrent card vendor ...
[03:17] <cpl-tnt44> i have a netgear ma401 card as well ...
[03:17] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: someone else needs to use my machine. But you are going in the right way.
[03:17] <cpl-tnt44> lets see if the driver is fucked up or dunno what
[03:17] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper -i
[03:18] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: ndiswrapper -l
[03:18] <cpl-tnt44> i told u airplus invalid driver !
[03:18] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:18] <cpl-tnt44> Fatal : error inserting ....
[03:19] <cpl-tnt44> operation not permitted
[03:19] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: after installing put the driver ndiswrapper in /etc/modules to load at boot time
[03:20] <cpl-tnt44> Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper.ko):Operation not permitted
[03:20] <GaiaX11> cpl-tnt44: I really have to go!
[03:20] <cpl-tnt44> pberger u there ?
[03:20] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: yes
[03:21] <cpl-tnt44> can u continue from here ?
[03:21] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: i think you should try and compile the ndiswrapper yourself
[03:21] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: its not that complicated...
[03:21] <Berto> hi - i'm looking for a KDE applet that will help me manage my network connections (to easily switch from wlan0 wireless to eth0 when i get plugged in)
[03:21] <Berto> anything like that i can apt-get install?
[03:22] <cpl-tnt44> pberger : ok shot...
[03:22] <cpl-tnt44> i think the driver may be bad ...
[03:22] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: ok
[03:22] <cpl-tnt44> but ok ...
[03:23] <cpl-tnt44> remove the driver from ndiswrapper ?
[03:23] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: type in the console: sudo ndiswrapper -e nameofdriver
[03:23] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: exactly
[03:24] <cpl-tnt44> ok done !
[03:24] <cpl-tnt44> go
[03:24] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: now: sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper
[03:25] <cpl-tnt44> strange...
[03:25] <cpl-tnt44> Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[03:25] <Berto> i use ndiswrapper... compiled from sourceforge sources because the one in my repository was so old
[03:25] <Berto> after i got 1.23 from sf.net it worked
[03:25] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: mybe: sudo apt-get remove ndis*
[03:26] <cpl-tnt44> ok works !
[03:26] <cpl-tnt44> done
[03:26] <cpl-tnt44> i mean its removing as we speak ...
[03:26] <cpl-tnt44> but go ahead...
[03:26] <pberger> cpl-tnt: fine. now go to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[03:27] <cpl-tnt44> now what to find ?
[03:27] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: Downloads, Releases...
[03:28] <pberger> or: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/
[03:28] <cpl-tnt44> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#D
[03:28] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: nono
[03:28] <cpl-tnt44> it says i need ndiswrapped 1.1
[03:28] <pberger> we use the latest..
[03:28] <cpl-tnt44> Card: D-Link Airplus DWL 650+
[03:29] <flavioribeiro> when i try to starts an video with mplayer shows this error: Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D57
[03:29] <carlos_> hi
[03:29] <flavioribeiro> anyone knows what i need to do to make my video plays?
[03:29] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/ and press download!
[03:29] <carlos_> hola
[03:29] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:29] <cpl-tnt44> done
[03:30] <cpl-tnt44> stable or testing ?
[03:30] <pberger> stable
[03:30] <cpk2> flavioribeiro: what video format?
[03:30] <flavioribeiro> wmv
[03:30] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:30] <cpl-tnt44> downloading
[03:30] <cpk2> did you get w32codecs?
[03:30] <pberger> good.
[03:30] <pberger> save it somewhre in your home-directory...
[03:30] <flavioribeiro> cpk2 no, i need to emule 32 bits and i dont know how to do this
[03:31] <cpl-tnt44> done
[03:31] <carlos_> install automatix
[03:31] <cpl-tnt44> open ?
[03:31] <cpk2> do NOT install automatix
[03:31] <pberger> find it in the file-browser
[03:31] <carlos_> why not?
[03:31] <pberger> and right-klick on it
[03:31] <cpl-tnt44> why not just press open ?
[03:31] <pberger> we have to extract all files...
[03:32] <cpl-tnt44> where do the firefox saves it by default ?
[03:32] <cpl-tnt44> nm
[03:32] <pberger> on the desktop...
[03:32] <carlos_> whats the matters whit automatix?
[03:32] <cpl-tnt44> extract to ?
[03:32] <pberger> a folder in your home-directroy
[03:32] <cpl-tnt44> ok done
[03:32] <pberger> ok
[03:32] <pberger> go to the console then
[03:33] <pberger> and find the folder called ndiswrapper-...
[03:33] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:33] <pberger> cd into that folder
[03:33] <cpk2> automatix can cause problems
[03:34] <pberger> if you make ls you should now see some files and two folders
[03:34] <pberger> is that right?
[03:34] <cpl-tnt44> wait
[03:34] <cpl-tnt44> how do i see continent ?
[03:35] <pberger> ls
[03:35] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:35] <pberger> ls = dir
[03:35] <pberger> ok, to be sure we have everything we need:
[03:35] <unix_infidel> uhh, no ls !=dir
[03:35] <pberger> type: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:35] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:36] <pberger> this installs the headers, compilers etc...
[03:36] <pberger> may take a while...
[03:36] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[03:36] <cpl-tnt44> ok downloading ?
[03:36] <pberger> ok
[03:36] <cpl-tnt44> just click YES
[03:36] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[03:36] <pberger> Yes
[03:37] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:37] <cpl-tnt44> i see the folder with some files in it
[03:37] <pberger> ready?
[03:37] <cpl-tnt44> yes ...
[03:37] <pberger> ok. if you have to compile a programm yourself:
[03:37] <pberger> take a look at a file called INSTALL.
[03:38] <pberger> you can type: cat INSTALL
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Is there an app to stress test your machine?
[03:38] <pberger> with cat you can see the content of a file...
[03:38] <cpl-tnt44> ahh no ... wait ... let it install the files...
[03:38] <cpl-tnt44> i thought u want to explain something
[03:38] <pberger> ok
[03:38] <pberger> yes
[03:38] <cpl-tnt44> u know what keep explaining
[03:38] <cpl-tnt44> cat = edit ?
[03:39] <pberger> kind of
[03:39] <DaSkreech> cpl-tnt44: No
[03:39] <cpl-tnt44> ok its done
[03:39] <DaSkreech> cat = view
[03:39] <pberger> you can only read, but not edit
[03:39] <pberger> perfect
[03:39] <cpl-tnt44> oh ! ok
[03:39] <cpl-tnt44> so whats edit ?
[03:39] <cpl-tnt44> nano ?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Yup
[03:39] <pberger> so cat is just if you want to read a file quick
[03:39] <pberger> nano is also good...
[03:40] <cpl-tnt44> ok were done ...
[03:40] <pberger> In the INSTALL-file there are informations about how to build and install
[03:40] <pberger> usualle its a command like make
[03:40] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:40] <pberger> here they write:
[03:40] <KDEfanboy> !checkinstall
[03:40] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:40] <pberger> make uninstall
[03:40] <cpl-tnt44> so do "cat install" ?
[03:40] <DaSkreech> I'll be kind and say nano works
[03:40] <pberger> yes
[03:40] <pberger> cat INSTALL
[03:41] <pberger> you have to be case-sensitive in linux!
[03:41] <cpl-tnt44> ok !
[03:41] <cpl-tnt44> got it
[03:41] <pberger> if you scroll up, you can read the file
[03:41] <pberger> so all we have to do now is: make uninstall
[03:41] <pberger> then: make
[03:42] <pberger> so type: make uninstall
[03:42] <cpl-tnt44> why do we make uninstall ?
[03:42] <pberger> to remove old versions (to be sure)
[03:42] <pberger> afterwards: make
[03:42] <cpl-tnt44> ok i did ..
[03:42] <cpl-tnt44> btw it had some errors...
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Is there an app to stress test your machine?
[03:42] <Hawkwind> Why not make clean instead.  A bit better to do it that way
[03:43] <cpl-tnt44> like permission denied ..
[03:43] <pberger> with make uninstall or with make?
[03:43] <cpl-tnt44> make uninstall
[03:43] <pberger> ok, then type: sudo make uninstall
[03:43] <Hawkwind> make uninstall will fail because he probably did sudo make install so he will need to do sudo make uninstall
[03:43] <cpl-tnt44> ok !
[03:43] <cpl-tnt44> worked like a charm
[03:43] <cpl-tnt44> now make ?
[03:43] <pberger> now type: make
[03:44] <pberger> yes
[03:44] <cpl-tnt44> sudo make ?
[03:44] <cpl-tnt44> or make ?
[03:44] <pberger> this will take a while with some output like  [CC]  ...text...
[03:44] <pberger> no, without sudo!
[03:44] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:44] <pberger> you need sudo only for installing / editing system files etc.
[03:45] <cpl-tnt44> ok it says some error 1 and error 2
[03:45] <pberger> for compiling its not needed...
[03:45] <cpl-tnt44> ...
[03:45] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:45] <cpl-tnt44> i got it ...
[03:45] <pberger> as long as ist runs a wihile its ok
[03:45] <pberger> finished?
[03:45] <cpl-tnt44> it finished after 2 seconds...
[03:45] <cpl-tnt44> not ok ?
[03:45] <cpl-tnt44> +slow comp
[03:45] <pberger> let me check
[03:46] <pberger> no, for me it takes a while
[03:46] <cpl-tnt44> ok ...
[03:46] <cpl-tnt44> here what it writes
[03:46] <cpl-tnt44> can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules /2.6.15-27-386/build;
[03:47] <cpl-tnt44> give the path to kernel build directory with KBUILD=<path> argumant to make
[03:47] <cpl-tnt44> make[1]  *** [prereq_check] Error 1
[03:47] <pberger> ok,
[03:47] <cpl-tnt44> leaving dir..../home/idan/ndis/driver
[03:47] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:47] <cpl-tnt44> ...
[03:49] <cpl-tnt44> wellz ?
[03:49] <pberger> ok
[03:49] <pberger> you need the headers, still...
[03:49] <cpl-tnt44> what headers ?
[03:49] <cpl-tnt44> in synaptic ?
[03:50] <pberger> ok
[03:50] <pberger> type: uname -r
[03:50] <pberger> what does it say?
[03:50] <cpl-tnt44> 2.6.15-27-386
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Damn zorglu is gone :(
[03:51] <pberger> ok, then type: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.16-27-386
[03:51] <cpl-tnt44> couldnt find package
[03:52] <cpl-tnt44> u sure its not 2.6.15 ?
[03:52] <cpl-tnt44> or that we already have ?
[03:52] <pberger> sorry. misstyping
[03:52] <pberger> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2-6.15-27-386 of course
[03:53] <cpl-tnt44> ok 1 min
[03:53] <cpl-tnt44> downloading
[03:53] <pberger> yes, this takes a while...
[03:54] <cpl-tnt44> ok almost done
[03:54] <cpk2> i thought for ndiswrapper you do fakeroot?
[03:54] <cpl-tnt44> fakeroot ?
[03:54] <cpl-tnt44> sudo....
[03:55] <pberger> but not for building...
[03:55] <cpl-tnt44> ok pberger .. done
[03:55] <pberger> perfect.
[03:55] <cpl-tnt44> now same ?
[03:55] <cpl-tnt44> make ?
[03:55] <pberger> now go again to the ndiswrapper-1.24 directory
[03:55] <pberger> and make
[03:55] <cpl-tnt44> i changed the name so it would be easier "ndis"
[03:56] <kutan> ...How do I open a .deb?
[03:56] <pberger> thats fine
[03:56] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:56] <cpl-tnt44> now what
[03:56] <cpl-tnt44> im ther
[03:56] <pberger> make
[03:56] <cpl-tnt44> from where we took off ?
[03:56] <pberger> yes
[03:56] <pberger> now it shold compile
[03:56] <cpl-tnt44> now its thinking some ...
[03:56] <cpl-tnt44> good !
[03:56] <pberger> yes this takes a while...
[03:57] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:57] <cpl-tnt44> what we do after ?
[03:57] <cpl-tnt44> fun compiling !
[03:57] <pberger> you see a lot of lines with [CC]  names module.o
[03:57] <cpl-tnt44> yes
[03:57] <pberger> when finished, we do
[03:57] <pberger> sudo make install
[03:57] <pberger> this should give you at least a working ndiswrapper installation
[03:57] <cpl-tnt44> again ?
[03:57] <pierreth> what are you using to crypt?
[03:58] <cpl-tnt44> make install ? or INSTALL ?
[03:58] <pberger> sudo make install
[03:58] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[03:58] <pberger> INSTALL is only the text-file with information for you, like README...
[03:59] <cpl-tnt44> ok im getting some errors...
[03:59] <cpl-tnt44> usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386
[03:59] <cpl-tnt44> mpmp
[04:00] <cpl-tnt44> my mistake ...
[04:00] <cpl-tnt44> no no
[04:00] <Parkotron> Is there an official release date for Edgy yet?
[04:00] <ubuntu> I need some urgent help here: anyone have some time?
[04:00] <cpl-tnt44> _module_/home/idan/ndis/driver error2
[04:01] <cpl-tnt44> "/home/idan/ndis/driver/hal.o error1
[04:01] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: dont panic, wait until you have the promt again
[04:01] <cpl-tnt44> i have ...
[04:01] <pberger> ok
[04:01] <cpl-tnt44> this is the end of it ...
[04:01] <cpl-tnt44> ok now ?
[04:01] <pberger> then sudo make install
[04:01] <cpl-tnt44> again !?
[04:01] <cpl-tnt44> we just did !
[04:02] <pberger> ok, then its fine
[04:02] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:02] <cpl-tnt44> now what
[04:02] <ubuntu> i'm in livecd mode cause I can't get into my system, got the 30 reboot script
[04:02] <pberger> now go to your dir with the driver .inf
[04:02] <ubuntu> and the process is hanging cause of shorewall
[04:02] <pberger> and the same procedure as before:
[04:02] <cpl-tnt44> ndiswrapper -i ...
[04:02] <pberger> ndiswrapper -i name.inf
[04:02] <pberger> exactly
[04:03] <cpl-tnt44> what about installing ndis ?
[04:03] <ubuntu> can someone pls help me completely remove shorewall from commandline?
[04:03] <cpl-tnt44> or we done that ?
[04:03] <pberger> we done that
[04:03] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:03] <cpl-tnt44> sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wire/*.inf right
[04:03] <pberger> yes
[04:04] <ubuntu> I didn't even have shorewall up and running when I rebooted
[04:04] <pberger> and then: ndiswrapper -l
[04:04] <cpl-tnt44> command not found man ...
[04:04] <pberger> ndiswrapper?
[04:04] <cpl-tnt44> sudo: ndiswrapper command not found
[04:05] <cpl-tnt44> yes
[04:05] <cpl-tnt44> im telling u we didnt installed it ...
[04:05] <cpl-tnt44> we removed it last time..
[04:05] <pberger> but you did: make install?
[04:05] <pberger> this _is_ installing...
[04:05] <cpl-tnt44> oh...
[04:05] <cpl-tnt44> if u say
[04:06] <cpl-tnt44> that's wierd
[04:06] <pberger> indeed
[04:06] <cpl-tnt44> retry ?
[04:06] <pberger> go back to ndis-dir
[04:06] <pberger> type: make clean
[04:06] <cpl-tnt44> pl
[04:06] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:07] <cpl-tnt44> now ?
[04:07] <cpl-tnt44> done
[04:07] <pberger> then: make
[04:07] <ubuntu> fdoving: my gnarly pal! u snoozing?
[04:09] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:09] <ubuntu> has anyone heard a peep out of fdoving recently?
[04:09] <pberger> then: sudo make uninstall
[04:09] <pberger> then: sudo make install
[04:10] <ubuntu> pberger? u 2 busy helping cpl-tnt? mine might be a quick fix
[04:11] <cpl-tnt44> he can do us both ( :) )
[04:11] <cpl-tnt44> doesnt sounds so good /?
[04:11] <pberger> ubuntu: what's the problem
[04:11] <ubuntu> heheh...am in livecd and need to uninstall shorewall from commandline
[04:12] <ubuntu> i'd gotten the 30-reboot script, and it hung during the shorewall process
[04:12] <pberger> ubuntu: what is sherewall?
[04:12] <ubuntu> shorewall wasn't even up and running when I rebooted...it's shorewall, the firewall
[04:12] <pberger> ok
[04:13] <pberger> maybe sudo killall shorewall
[04:13] <cpl-tnt44> pberger now its ok !
[04:13] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: thats good!
[04:14] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: now back to your diver dir and sudo ndiswrapper -i name.inf
[04:14] <cpl-tnt44> lol !
[04:14] <ubuntu> perhaps that will work while i'm trying to reboot, but I'd like to try and uninstall it from hdd while still in livecd mode
[04:14] <cpl-tnt44> oberger get this : instead of line 135 error i get now 164 error ...
[04:14] <cpl-tnt44> well we got a few more lines ...
[04:14] <ubuntu> so I need a commandline script that will completely remove all parts...can't use adept or synaptic
[04:14] <pberger> ubuntu: ok, then try to find the file which makes it load...
[04:14] <igor> i have a video .avi ....when i play with MPlayer, it opens in another window...and shows an error : "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card availble."    "Run 'xinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html3xv!"    "See 'mplyer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11"
[04:15] <igor> ?????
[04:15] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: then its something really wrong with the inf-file
[04:15] <cpl-tnt44> lol !
[04:15] <ubuntu> k, i'll try, but like I said, it never loaded completely cause it wasn't configured properly yet
[04:15] <cpl-tnt44> thanks !
[04:15] <pberger> cpl-tnt44: you did use the latest XP-driver?
[04:15] <cpl-tnt44> lets try an other inf file ..
[04:15] <cpl-tnt44> yes
[04:16] <cpl-tnt44> maybe win2k file ?
[04:16] <pberger> why not?
[04:16] <cpl-tnt44> lets try ...
[04:16] <ubuntu> I just need the 30-reboot script to skip the checking of the shorewall, and figured if there were no directories to shorewall check...
[04:16] <ubuntu> it couldn't hang there, and let me get into my desktop
[04:17] <igor> hey guys
[04:17] <igor> hey guys
[04:17] <igor> ?????
[04:17] <igor> i have a video .avi ....when i play with MPlayer, it opens in another window...and shows an error : "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card availble."    "Run 'xinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html3xv!"    "See 'mplyer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11"
[04:17] <ubuntu> hi igor
[04:17] <igor> does do you knows what is happening man??
[04:17] <igor> :T
[04:17] <pberger> ubunt: is ist loaded by init.d?
[04:17] <ubuntu> let me check
[04:19] <pberger> ubuntu: its init.d
[04:19] <igor> do i have to get any codec?
[04:21] <ubuntu> k...now how do i get into that directory from the livecd to remove it? the partition is mounted here in livecd, but i can't seem to browse it
[04:23] <ubuntu> igor: can u play other avi files?
[04:23] <ubuntu> with mplayer, that is
[04:25] <igor> to tell the true...i didnt try...
[04:25] <ubuntu> ok igor: there are lots of codecs to install to handle multimedia, as well as graphics drivers for your video card, b4 you can play movies
[04:27] <ubuntu> have u read the 'restrictedformats wiki to get all your codecs, including w32codecs and that?
[04:27] <ubuntu> pberger? u still here?
[04:27] <Slynderdale> igor: Here and for anyone else who want codecs for just about every video/sound file, try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[04:28] <igor> i already have the w32 codecs...
[04:28] <mabreaux> does any one know how to edit grub's startup screen?
[04:28] <igor> but i don know what else shoul i get...
[04:29] <ubuntu> good igor; have u followed the rest of restrictedformats howto?
[04:29] <igor> no....
[04:29] <igor> ?T
[04:29] <ubuntu> that gieves u a good list of all the multimedia codecs u need
[04:30] <ubuntu> it's on the ubuntu.com community support pages
[04:30] <Slynderdale> igor: EasyUnbunto basicly gives you everything in an easy to install package for Kubunto.
[04:30] <ubuntu> pberger?
[04:31] <igor> good....
[04:31] <igor> so in the ubuntu website....there are all codecs i need?
[04:32] <ubuntu> mabreak: in root shell, "cd \boot\grub"
[04:32] <Kr4t05> screenkast compile is asking for KDE headers. What should I look for?
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Why are you compiling it ?  It's in deb format already
[04:32] <ubuntu> then "nano menu.lst|
[04:32] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Rellay?
[04:32] <ubuntu> oops. "nano menu.lst" without quotes
[04:33] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Certainly so.  Look at my http://SeerOfSouls.com/  and then click on the Deb Packages tab at the top.  It's in contrib
[04:33] <ubuntu> igor: no, the restrictedformats howto is on the ubuntu.com website
[04:33] <Hawkwind> !codecs
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: You, sir, are a god.
[04:34] <ubuntu> igor: u use synaptic or adept to get the apps the howto talks about
[04:34] <ubuntu> there's the link to RestrictedFormats igor
[04:34] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: SoS will hopefully soon be added to source-o-matic.  It's the largest 3rd party rpm repo for Mandriva and is growing quickly for deb stuff now too :)  I average about 2 million hits per month to the site :)
[04:35] <Kr4t05> I'm adding it.
[04:35] <ubuntu> hawkwind: i have a problem, and pberger seems to have disappeared
[04:35] <igor> thanks ubuntu...
[04:35] <ubuntu> could u help me with something?
[04:35] <ubuntu> no probs igor
[04:36] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: I'm actually heading to bed, though I'm sure someone can
[04:36] <ubuntu> glad I could help somebody, as I often need it
[04:36] <ubuntu> k; goodnight hawkwind
[04:36] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: I also have an E17 repo there that is updated usually about once a week or so.
[04:36] <caseyoma1> How do I format a vfat partition (dev/hdb1)?
[04:37] <cpl-tnt44> pberger u there ?
[04:37] <ubuntu> problem: i got the rebooted-30-times script at bootup, and it's hanging on shorewall firewall app
[04:38] <ubuntu> i'm in livecd now, and need a command line to completely remove shorewall from mounted partition
[04:38] <Slynderdale> Why not boot up in safe mode and remove it?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get remove --purge shorewall
[04:39] <ubuntu> tried safemode...thnks, hawkwind!
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Is there an app to stress test your machine?
[04:42] <ubuntu> let me try it...brb
[04:42] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Taking some time off for SuperTuxkart?
[04:43] <ubuntu> k, got a couple of error messages about not being able to get a lock on some directories
[04:45] <dennis_> well I just got another laptop up  and running with a bcm4319 w/ WPA, no the strange thing is whne I reboot the system, sometimes the wireless card shows up as eth2 or wlan0
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> what is the linux source dir ?
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> what is the linux source dir ?
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> oops
[04:52] <cpl-tnt44> usr/src/linux ?
[04:52] <mabreaux> thanks for the information on editting the grub menu......
[04:59] <Dr_willis> cpl-tnt44,  thats it normally. but ive noticed that ubuntu keeps the kernels in their own dirs.. I recall that normally 'linux' is a link to the current kernel/version.. but that may not be the standard any more
[05:00] <rendal> salve
[05:06] <cpl-tnt44> While sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf ,gettinf couldn't open netma401.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164 . ANY ONE have any idea\clue how to solve this !??
[05:08] <Dr_willis> !skype
[05:08] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:09] <cpl-tnt44> Dr_willis how can i solve this ?
[05:09] <cpl-tnt44> dont use ndiswrapper ?
[05:10] <[-KaSatKa-] > Amarok says I don't have visualizations installed but I do, How can I make amarok check to see if any are installed?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Is there an app to stress test your machine?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> cpl-tnt44,  make a soft link from your kernel source dir to the linux dir.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> cpl-tnt44,  i had to to that to compile the vmware modules.
[05:17] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[05:17] <cpl-tnt44> how i do a soft link
[05:17] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[05:17] <cpl-tnt44> and between which 2 folders ?
[05:18] <cpl-tnt44> Dr Willis plz help ... im sitting on it like 20 hours..
[05:19] <Dr_willis> ln -s somthing somthingelse
[05:19] <Dr_willis> bash 101 stuff  :)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> and i always get it backwards
[05:20] <RawSewage> how do you skip the 30 mount disk check for a later time
[05:21] <cahuez> hiya; looking for the right flash/shockwave plugin.. :)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  use tunefs or was it tune2fs.. somthing like that to set the # to whatever ya want.
[05:22] <RawSewage> is there a command I can type when it the check starts to abort
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Usage: tune2fs [-c max_mounts_count] 
[05:22] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  best to just let it run
[05:22] <RawSewage> I know but
[05:23] <Dr_willis> may try ctrl-c or ctrl-d - but never tried to stop it
[05:23] <RawSewage> once in a while, Im in a hurry, and cant wait 30 minutes for it to check
[05:23] <RawSewage> ok
[05:23] <Dr_willis> 30 min? Hmm..ya got either  real slow system.. or dma is not enabled.. or UBER huge ha4rd drives
[05:24] <RawSewage> actually, I think it was an hour on my laptop
[05:25] <RawSewage> thx
[05:25] <RawSewage> does the disk check do some defragging
[05:25] <Dr_willis> ext2/3 does not really have a fragmention issue.
[05:26] <RawSewage> what if your disk is consantly full
[05:26] <Dr_willis> not sure of any linux filesystems that do.
[05:27] <cpl-tnt44> Dr_willis care to write me the command for softlink ?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> ln -s place1 place2
[05:27] <cpl-tnt44> ok what is my place 2 ?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> 'ln -s' makes a soft link.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ln  makes a hard link
[05:28] <cpl-tnt44> ok i dunno the diff care to explain ?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> linuxsource-kerne-dir   for one, then 'linux' for the otehr.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> man ln
[05:28] <Dr_willis> a hard link is IDENTICAL to the file.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> so when in doubt use soft links
[05:28] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[05:28] <Smooph> !teamspeak
[05:28] <cpk2> i thought you really only get fragmented disks if the swap is on the same partition?
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <Dr_willis> swap is in its own partition - so it never affects the other filesystem partitions
[05:29] <RawSewage> well
[05:29] <Dr_willis> a swap FILE - is normally of a set size -  if using that feature. (from what i rember)
[05:30] <RawSewage> if my disk is full, and Im constantly deleting, adding more files, the file has no room to breathe
[05:30] <cpl-tnt44> Dr willis so my 1st folder is /use/sbin/ndiswrapper my 2nd is linuxsource-kernel-dir?
[05:30] <RawSewage> seems like the file would have to fragment
[05:30] <RawSewage> if I delete 6 100mb files, to make room for 1 600mb file
[05:31] <cpl-tnt44> so the right command is this : ln -s /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper linuxsource-kerne-dir ?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> cpl-tnt44,  no.. you want to do ln -s kernel-source-dir  /usr/src/linux  (I THINK) not sure what your really trying to do
[05:31] <RawSewage> it will have to be fragmented
[05:31] <Dr_willis> cpl-tnt44,  theres NO reason to link a Binary to a dir... thats making no sence at all
[05:31] <cpl-tnt44> so what i need to do !?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> the files are 'fragmented' but have no real effect on the preformace i guess is the 'correct' way
[05:31] <cpl-tnt44> dir to binary ?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> cpl-tnt44,  I dont know what you are even trying to do
[05:32] <Dr_willis> what you just said is totally 'not right'
[05:32] <cpl-tnt44> ndiswrapper command writes me this error
[05:32] <cpl-tnt44> While sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf ,gettinf couldn't open netma401.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164 . ANY ONE have any idea\clue how to solve this !??
[05:32] <Dr_willis> /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164   - is the command and line# thats hacing the error...
[05:32] <cpl-tnt44> and then i get driver invalid ...
[05:32] <cpl-tnt44> not good
[05:33] <cpl-tnt44> like this with almost any inf file
[05:33] <Dr_willis> sounds to me like it wants  the netma401.inf directory
[05:33] <Dr_willis> err file.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> you sure you are giving it the right path for the -i command?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> what is your USER name?
[05:33] <cpl-tnt44> yes
[05:33] <cpl-tnt44> idan
[05:33] <Dr_willis> you got the stuff in the 'wireless' dir?
[05:33] <cpl-tnt44> user=idan
[05:33] <RawSewage> ok
[05:33] <Dr_willis> ok... STOP.. look.. think...
[05:33] <Dr_willis>  -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf
[05:33] <cpl-tnt44> yes
[05:34] <cpl-tnt44> exsacly
[05:34] <Dr_willis> i am GUESSING you should be using 'idan' not 'user'
[05:34] <cpl-tnt44> i know
[05:34] <cpl-tnt44> i am
[05:34] <Dr_willis> :) ok..
[05:34] <cpl-tnt44> this was just an exsample
[05:34] <igor> how i put a subtitle in the kaffeine????
[05:34] <igor> anybody knows????
[05:34] <cpl-tnt44> any suggestions ?
[05:34] <RawSewage> oh yeah, I remember what I was going to ask
[05:34] <RawSewage> igor, what do you mean
[05:34] <RawSewage> igor, do you have the srt file
[05:35] <cpl-tnt44> i already compiled the installation of ndiswrapper ... and still same error diffrent line
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Ive never messed with ndiswrapper.. so really cant tell ya much about it.. check the wiki/forums.. sound almost like either the program cant read that dir.. or the file formats are wrong.
[05:35] <cpl-tnt44>  newesr version .. newest kernal ...
[05:35] <cpl-tnt44> i dunno what im doin wrong
[05:35] <igor> i have the file
[05:35] <igor> :T
[05:35] <RawSewage> My question is:  what program should I use to mount a bin file.  some sort of virtual drive
[05:35] <igor> .srt
[05:35] <cpl-tnt44> Dr Willis care for a link to the forums plz
[05:36] <RawSewage> igor, just put the .srt in the same folde as the video, and make sure they have the same name
[05:36] <igor> ok
[05:36] <igor> thanks....
[05:37] <Dr_willis> google for  ubuntu forums.. gesh. :)
[05:37] <RawSewage> whats the url for google
[05:37] <Dr_willis> !ndiswrappers
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswrappers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <Dr_willis> !ndiswrapper
[05:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:37] <cpl-tnt44> ubotu>
[05:37] <cpl-tnt44> thanks! all of u ..
[05:38] <RawSewage> !bin
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Slynderdale> Umm, I just popped in an external drive and it shows ND #endif as the name
[05:46] <digivore> hey i screwed up my system installing e16... how can i get linux to start up in KDE again?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> how did you mnage to break that
[05:46] <Parkotron> RawSewage: I believe Kiso will convert BINs to ISOs which you can then easily mount.
[05:47] <digivore> is there something i can change in my profile to tell linux to start in KDE ??
[05:47] <RawSewage> Parkotron, ok, ty
[05:48] <Parkotron> digivore: You should have the option of choosing in KDM.
[05:49] <digivore> ohh.  there it is.
[05:49] <Parkotron> digivore: Provided your install isn't entirely messed, there should be multiple options under Session Type in the KDM menu.
[05:49] <digivore> thanks, didn'tknow that was there.
[05:50] <Parkotron> digivore: You're welcome.
[05:51] <digivore> ohh,   e-kde.. thats funny.  half and half...
[05:51] <RawSewage> kiso works good
[05:52] <Dr_willis> broke it - :)
[05:52] <Parkotron> RawSewage: I've never used it myself, and I was a little worried because it hasn't seen an update since last Christmas. But I'm glad it worked out for you.
[05:55] <RawSewage> reboot
[05:56] <cahuez> hi there; how can i re-config the xorg server..?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> with a dpkg-reconfigure SOMTHING  command
[05:56] <Dr_willis> i never can rember the SOMTHING
[05:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <cahuez> hehehe, me neither..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> i alwyas got to google for it
[05:57] <cahuez> i did it sometime when..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> but ive rarely needed to run it
[05:57] <bimberi> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:57] <bimberi> :)
[05:57] <cahuez> i tasted edubuntu and it works, hehe..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> yea - i always just try 'xorg' :)
[05:58] <cahuez> the issue is that when i turn on the box..
[05:58] <cahuez> it delays forever and..
[05:58] <cahuez> i have to alt+f1 as root to..
[05:58] <cahuez> config the serial mouse, sb sound and other stuff..!
[05:59] <cahuez> i can remember that there is a..
[05:59] <cahuez> way just for config the stuff..
[06:00] <cahuez> is a config i found sometime before but..
[06:00] <cahuez> i think it works only not with kubuntu..
[06:00] <Parkotron> !enter
[06:00] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:01] <RawSewage> lol
[06:01] <cahuez> ;)
[06:01] <michael> Anyone have any idea why nv drivers do NOT work with my Nvidia card?
[06:02] <RawSewage> did you change nv to nvidia
[06:02] <RawSewage> but nv should work
[06:02] <michael> Will that make the difference? Because if I switch to nv, X blows up in my face.
[06:02] <cahuez> are you doing a apt-get for the controllers..?
[06:02] <michael> It gives me a blank screen with a white line, and doesn't move forever.
[06:02] <michael> I did apt-get
[06:02] <RawSewage> install the nvidia drivers, and change nv to nvidia in that .conf file
[06:03] <michael> Hope that works.
[06:03] <michael> What's the apt-get... uh... apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[06:03] <RawSewage> I think thats it
[06:03] <cahuez> how can i config <forever> the serial mouse, sb sound for the right time..?
[06:04] <RawSewage> still. nv should work
[06:04] <cahuez> when i boot the box, i have so config the /dev/mouse,
[06:04] <jmichaelx> how would one install kubuntu with an nvidia card? i am not able to get x going so that i can get to the point where i can install 'nvidia'.... is there a boot code of some sort?
[06:04] <michael> It doesn't.
[06:04] <michael> I promise.
[06:04] <RawSewage> I know.  Im just saying, thats an odd problem
[06:04] <michael> You have to use vesa man
[06:04] <michael> That's what I had to do :\
[06:04] <RawSewage> nvidia is best anyway
[06:04] <cpk2> jmichaelx: you are trying to use the live cd?
[06:04] <michael> do uh... apt-get-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... I think is it.
[06:05] <jmichaelx> cpk2: yes
[06:05] <cahuez> testing...
[06:05] <michael> and select vesa
[06:05] <cpk2> jmichaelx: did you try safe mode?
[06:05] <jmichaelx> cpk2: yeah, i tried safe mode, but still no x
[06:05] <michael> Dang man.
[06:06] <cpk2> jmichaelx: did you try going to a different terminal and see what the x log said?
[06:06] <jmichaelx> cpk2: no, i guess i could do that
[06:06] <cpk2> the kubuntu live cd didnt give me x normally but did in safe mode and I didnt have any problems once it installed
[06:06] <RawSewage> jmichaelx, are you installing Dapper or Edgy
[06:07] <cpk2> jmichaelx: if you cant get the live cd to work you will probably need the alternate cd
[06:07] <jmichaelx> RawSewage: i have tried both
[06:07] <jmichaelx> cpk2: that is what i was wondering.....
[06:08] <cahuez> mm, it don't like it> apt-get-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:08] <jmichaelx> i supposed i could take this card back out, use the integrated card to install kubuntu, then download the nvidia drver, put the card back in and fire up??
[06:09] <jmichaelx> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:09] <Dr_willis> you can install the nvidia drivers from the console.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> odd that its screwing up so badly
[06:09] <Dr_willis> it may be getting cinfused by the onboard card and the  other card
[06:09] <michael> Yeah I'm about to edit xorg.conf
[06:09] <michael> Then reboot
[06:09] <michael> THis shall be fun
[06:10] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: i would first need to install in order to download the driver, not?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  depends. :P ive seen some live cd's that come with the nvidia and ati driver.. and im wondering how they are legally doing that.. :)
[06:10] <KDEfanboy> michyou might also want to try nvidia's nvidia-xconfig
[06:10] <unix_infidel> wow, my video card is at 58C while my proc is at 41C.
[06:11] <RawSewage> Customized distro
[06:11] <unix_infidel> that's rediculous....
[06:11] <Dr_willis> but kubuntu/ubuntu cant.. (guess they are sticking to the legal high ground)
[06:11] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: i have too, i used the kororaa live CD on this box, and it obviously contained 'nvidia'.... and xgl/compiz worked great lol
[06:12] <cpk2> cahuez: its sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:12] <KDEfanboy> Kororaa did stop distributing them tho
[06:12] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,  im guessing the little guys get under the radar.. Kororaa got caught tho dident they?  I think Mepis may have cut some deal however.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Now ya can get Linux Warez with the old verson of Kororra :)
[06:13] <cpk2> Dr_willis: cant you insert packages into the live cd though after you download it?
[06:13] <jmichaelx> mepis contains nvidia/??? i should just install mepis, then. it is pretty much the same as kubuntu, anyways
[06:13] <jmichaelx> i guess i must have the old kororaa version
[06:14] <Dr_willis> jmichaelx,   im thinkingit does...  actually im not sure that freespire dont do it as well..
[06:14] <Dr_willis> i aint checked out mepis in some time. It dident have much else going for it
[06:15] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: i have mepis one one box here in my apartment..... it's nice. basically the same as kubuntu, except that the live CD had a lot of non-free on it
[06:15] <Dr_willis> the mepis live cd - installer was better done.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> but the #mepis channel and forums and so on.. where no near near as well done.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> but this was a few months ago.
[06:17] <jmichaelx> mepis does not quite has the community base that ubuntu has... not y a long shot
[06:17] <jmichaelx> have*
[06:17] <jmichaelx> by*
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :0
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <jmichaelx> by the way, slack 11.0 has been released...
[06:19] <Dr_willis> yep - got the torrent downloading now. :)
[06:19] <jmichaelx> lol
[06:19] <Dr_willis> gotta love testing new disrtos in vmware
[06:19] <jmichaelx> i have not tried that yet... i just have way too many old PCs sitting around
[06:20] <jmichaelx> i need to leard how to use vmware
[06:20] <omar> hi guys I installed frostwire and it dowsn't open
[06:20] <omar> what can i do
[06:20] <Dr_willis> #1 check your java version
[06:21] <Dr_willis> #2 if your version is not suns official java.. read the !java url and use the update-alternetives  information to set it to use suns java by default.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Is there an app to stress test your machine?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  ive seen some benchmark tools befor.. but never used any
[06:22] <omar> Dr_willis how to check the version
[06:22] <Dr_willis> guess it depends on what you want to test. :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> java -version
[06:22] <Dr_willis> :) or was it --version
[06:22] <michael> Yeah, that failed miserably
[06:22] <omar> Dr_willis it's 1.4.2
[06:23] <Dr_willis> omar,  check the OTHER lines in the version output...
[06:23] <fdoving> DaSkreech: you can checkout the 'stress' package.
[06:23] <omar> Dr_willis you want me to paste averything
[06:23] <Dr_willis> omar,  no.. that version # tells me you are NOT using the sun java.. go to step 2 :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> ava version "1.5.0_06"
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[06:24] <michael> Setting my driver to "nvidia" causes X to bomb the same as it being set to "nv".
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Your has gljc or somthing in the 2nd line. :P i cant rember exactly however.
[06:24] <cahuez> take a look to xorg.conf..
[06:25] <notech> michael: check the xorg.0.log
[06:25] <notech> or is it Xorg.0.log, i forget
[06:25] <michael> Either way, it doesn't exist because it doesn't get a chance to create it
[06:26] <michael> It bombs, as in, it goes to a blank screen and does nothing else.
[06:26] <michael> Hard drive is active, and scratching, but no view.
[06:26] <DaSkreech> fdoving: That looks like it :)0
[06:26] <notech> michael:  did it ever work?
[06:27] <omar> Dr_willis looks so complicated :(
[06:27] <michael> No.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> omar,  thee 1 line you need to use 'update-alternatives SOMTHING' that i forget..
[06:28] <notech> michael: sorry, i've never heard/seen that before
[06:28] <michael> Yeah
[06:28] <KDEfanboy> michael: try nvidia-xconfig, nvidia's x configurator
[06:28] <RawSewage> how do you unmount using mount
[06:29] <notech> umount
[06:29] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  you dont .. you use 'umount'
[06:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:29] <michael> "bash: nvidia-xconfig: command not found"
[06:29] <RawSewage> ty
[06:29] <Dr_willis> and NO i dont know where the 'n' went. :)
[06:29] <KDEfanboy> michael sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[06:29] <michael> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-xconfig
[06:30] <RawSewage> lol
[06:32] <michael> I happen to have two major things not working that I need working
[06:32] <michael> my onboard Via Rhine
[06:32] <michael> and my video card.
[06:33] <RawSewage> what do you need the video card working for
[06:33] <michael> Because VESA is a piece of crap.
[06:33] <michael> and there is 0 reasons to use Vesa.
[06:33] <michael> I enjoy 2D and 3D hardware acceleration
[06:33] <RawSewage> lol
[06:33] <Dr_willis> --> /kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.ko
[06:33] <cpk2> !nvidia
[06:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:33] <RawSewage> why didnt nvidia work
[06:33] <michael> It just doesn't.
[06:33] <michael> It gives a blank screen and nothing else
[06:33] <RawSewage> you changed xorg.conf ?
[06:33] <michael> Yes.
[06:33] <michael> Yes I did.
[06:34] <RawSewage> you installed nvidia-glx
[06:34] <michael> I have different problems with the Rhine
[06:34] <michael> Yes.
[06:34] <RawSewage> how many kernels do you have in GRUB
[06:34] <michael> 2.
[06:34] <KDEfanboy> michael add 'universe' repository or download manually: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=nvidia-xconfig&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[06:34] <michael> The latest and whatever came with 5.10
[06:34] <RawSewage> did you try using the other one
[06:34] <michael> Yeah I tried before
[06:34] <michael> that's why I updated
[06:34] <michael> I'd hope it'd work : )
[06:35] <michael> and it didn't.
[06:35] <RawSewage> did you search the forums
[06:35] <michael> That link has amd64 in it.
[06:36] <RawSewage> Ubuntu Forums
[06:37] <michael> Not just yet.
[06:37] <cahuez> hey michael, take a look here> http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/ and find..
[06:37] <cahuez>  Linux Gaming Part 4 - Installing NVidia Graphics Driver
[06:38] <KDEfanboy> michael it has amd64 and i386
[06:40] <angrykeyboarder> I can't seem to get KDM to accept my password.  I've got both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed. I switched from GDM to KDM.  KDM won't accept my password.  I've tried everything  I can think of but nothing helps.  If I go back to using GDM it takes my password just fine.  I'd rather use KDM though.  Any ideas?
[06:40] <michael> I 'ave the .deb file, how do I "install" this mofo?
[06:41] <cahuez> michael: using aptitude front-end..
[06:41] <Parkotron> angrykeyboarder: What version of Ubuntu and what version of KDE?
[06:41] <KDEfanboy> !dpkg
[06:41] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[06:42] <Parkotron> michael: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[06:42] <angrykeyboarder> Edgy and KDE 3.5.4.  But actually I ran into this same probem months ago in Dapper and nobody had a solution.
[06:42] <illmatik`> im trying to edit my boot order from kubuntu, but when I try to save the menu file i get some sort of error
[06:43] <Parkotron> angrykeyboarder: Bizarre, I have no idea. Sorry.
[06:44] <Parkotron> illmatik`: What "boot order" are you refering to?
[06:44] <illmatik`> i forget the name...but basically when I start up my laptop I just wanna set the default OS to windows and also edit the timeout
[06:44] <illmatik`> but i cant save the file
[06:44] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Ah, GRub's menu.lst.
[06:45] <angrykeyboarder> I guess it only affects me.  When I asked months ago on the mailng list I got no response. ;-)  Oh well. I guess I'll try that route again and see if I have better luck this time.
[06:45] <illmatik`> yes sir
[06:45] <Parkotron> illmatik`: You need to edit the file with root privelidges.
[06:46] <illmatik`> care to explain, as you can tell im a complete linux noob
[06:46] <illmatik`> just gettin into this heh
[06:46] <cahuez> go to /boot/grub and edit the menu.lst file..
[06:46] <illmatik`> i did
[06:46] <illmatik`> but i cant save it
[06:46] <cahuez> are you editing with vi..?
[06:47] <Parkotron> illmatik`: As a user, you don't have permission to edit systemwide configuration files.
[06:47] <illmatik`> so what do i need  to do to get root privelidges
[06:47] <Parkotron> The short answer is run "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[06:47] <cahuez> yep, you have to be root.. :)
[06:47] <illmatik`> got it
[06:47] <Parkotron> !sudo
[06:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:47] <pierre_> hi
[06:48] <cahuez> hiya pierre..
[06:48] <illmatik`> a few more questions...when i installed kubuntu i accidently gave the linux partition 80 GBs and my windows 20, whats the easiest way to edit the partitions and give my windows 80GB?
[06:48] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Read the above article. It's probably the most important part of switching to Linux.
[06:48] <illmatik`> will do
[06:48] <cahuez> yep, re-installing it..
[06:48] <illmatik`> i cant just edit the partition sizes?
[06:49] <cahuez> yep you can but you have to re-partition it with qtpart..
[06:49] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Try QTParted or GParted. They're graphical partition editors.
[06:49] <cpk2> illmatik`: its possible to resize them, depending on how much free space you have
[06:49] <cahuez> qtparted is the right one..
[06:50] <illmatik`> got it, which brings me to my last question
[06:50] <illmatik`> i tried installing my first program...it was Konversation, the IRC client
[06:50] <cahuez> you need free space a lot for doing it success..@
[06:50] <Parkotron> cahuez: GParted is actually the superior product of the two. Unfortunately it relies of GTK.
[06:50] <illmatik`> and i tried doing ./config in the terminal and it started to config it but then I got an error saying it couldnt find kde-info or something like that
[06:51] <illmatik`> cahuez: just bought this laptop today :] 
[06:51] <Parkotron> illmatik`: As a beginner, you shouldn't have to compile software. Just install Ubuntu's binary packages with Adept.
[06:51] <cahuez> give a try to>apt-get install konversation ..
[06:51] <illmatik`> just type that in terminal?
[06:52] <cahuez> yep, sounds better.. :)
[06:52] <illmatik`> sweet
[06:52] <cahuez> yep..
[06:52] <illmatik`> thatll be the first thing i do so i can talk to you guys in kubuntu
[06:52] <cahuez> give it a try..
[06:52] <illmatik`> thanks, brb
[06:52] <cahuez> but in fact konversation is present by default in..
[06:52] <cahuez> any xbuntu distro..
[06:53] <cpk2> or ksirc
[06:53] <cpk2> for kde
[06:53] <cahuez> just find it out at menu K..
[06:53] <root> No.
[06:53] <root> that failed miserably.
[06:53] <root> Same results
[06:54] <michaelx> That failed  badly.
[06:55] <Parkotron> michaelx: What's your trouble?
[06:55] <michaelx> X doesn't work the same.
[06:55] <cahuez> **
[06:55] <michaelx> "nv" and "nvidia" driver listings do NOT work.
[06:55] <Parkotron> michaelx: Does vesa?
[06:55] <michaelx> Yes.
[06:55] <michaelx> That's what I'm currently using
[06:56] <Parkotron> michaelx: It's not a lot of fun, but have you tried compiling the nVidia drivers yourself?
[06:56] <michaelx> Yes, it bombs
[06:56] <michaelx> Ubby comes with less than 1 thing to build them.
[06:56] <michaelx> Kubby, actually.
[06:57] <michaelx> tried it with both anyway
[06:57] <Parkotron> What are you missing?
[06:57] <michaelx> Uh
[06:57] <michaelx> Actually
[06:57] <michaelx> I apt-get'd what I needed
[06:57] <michaelx> but GCC mismatched
[06:57] <Parkotron> michaelx: I think they only need build-essential and the linux headers.
[06:58] <michaelx> with my kernel
[06:58] <michaelx> Let me go fetch the .run from the site real quick
[06:58] <Parkotron> michaelx: You have to change the GCC version before you begin the install.
[06:58] <michaelx> I KNOW that works, it did on slack, and beautifully
[06:59] <Parkotron> michaelx: Dapper or Edgy?
[06:59] <Parkotron> michaelx: I've used this in the past with success: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139264
[06:59] <michaelx> 5.10... Believe it's Dapper.
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> 5.10 is breezy.
[07:00] <Parkotron> 5.10 is Breezy.
[07:00] <michaelx> Oh.
[07:00] <michaelx> Thanks.
[07:00] <michaelx> then I have that : )
[07:01] <michaelx> I ran... apt-get install dist-upgrade... update... whatever it is.
[07:01] <Parkotron> michaelx: At this point, I'd say you're better of downloading a fresh Dapper (6.06) CD and starting from scratch.
[07:02] <LeeJunFan> !upgrade
[07:02] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:02] <michaelx> Whaaaaat.
[07:02] <Parkotron> michaelx: I would only bother going through an upgrade if you already have a working system, which from the sounds of things, you don't.
[07:03] <Parkotron> michaelx: But of course that's my personal opinion.
[07:03] <michaelx> Erg...
[07:03] <michaelx> 24.6KBS here guys
[07:03] <michaelx> Not a good option : )
[07:03] <michaelx> DSL is death.
[07:04] <Parkotron> michaelx: I was affraid you'd say that.
[07:04] <michaelx> Oh yeah, nothing is easy.
[07:04] <michaelx> Not with Linux, that's why I use it.
[07:05] <Parkotron> michaelx: Have you run Linux/X/nvidia drivers on this computer before?
[07:05] <KDEfanboy> michaelx what card is it?
[07:05] <michaelx> Slackware loves the drivers from nvidia
[07:05] <michaelx> and windows loves them too.
[07:05] <michaelx> it's an eVga Nvidia 7600GS
[07:06] <Parkotron> michaelx: Is that model newer than October 2005?
[07:06] <michaelx> UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:06] <michaelx> Let me check.
[07:07] <michaelx> I have no idea, I bought it in 06 but it's been out a while I"m sure,
[07:07] <Parkotron> If so, that would explain why a Kubuntu 5.10 CD wouldn't have drivers for it.
[07:08] <michaelx> Huh
[07:09] <michaelx> 6.06 hopefully has Via Rhine working too.
[07:09] <michaelx> The story with that
[07:09] <michaelx> is that I hit "Enable" and then it just disables itself .2 seconds
[07:09] <michaelx> later
[07:09] <illmatik`> yay i got konversation installed
[07:11] <Healot> via rhine/velocity is supported since 2.6.8
[07:11] <Parkotron> michaelx: Support for the 7600 was only added to the drivers in April. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html
[07:11] <michaelx> Aww.
[07:11] <michaelx> So bogus.
[07:11] <michaelx> All right well here's what I'll do then.
[07:11] <illmatik`> so im trying to edit the menu.lst file...why am i getting kdesu: command not found
[07:12] <michaelx> "borrow" a connection
[07:12] <michaelx> and get a move on.
[07:12] <michaelx> Pleasent talking to you helpful people, thanks, hope to be back soon
[07:12] <Slynderdale> COuld always use AUtomatrix or EasyUbuntu to install ATI/NVidia drivers, thats what I did and worked like a charm
[07:12] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Are you on Kubuntu?
[07:12] <illmatik`> yes sir
[07:13] <Parkotron> illmatik`: kdesu has to be there.
[07:13] <illmatik`> =/ dunno what to say, i installed kubuntu from the latest cd
[07:13] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Exactly what command did you type in?
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> should be in /usr/bin/kdesu try ls to see if it's there?
[07:14] <LeeJunFan> it's in kdebase-bin, don't know how it couldn't be on installed.
[07:15] <illmatik`> sudo kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:15] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Drop the "sudo".
[07:15] <illmatik`> ack. im a total nub, i cant even navigate to /usr/bin/kdesu ... whats the linux equivalent of cd.. ?
[07:16] <Parkotron> illmatik`: sudo and kdesu do the same thing. sudo is for command line apps, kdesu is for graphical apps.
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: cd
[07:16] <midspeed> hi everybody, how do i format a NTFS partition hard drive on kubuntu 6.06
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> err cd .. to go up a dir
[07:16] <Parkotron> illmatik`: cd .. (you need the space.)
[07:16] <casfindad> Quick sound question: How do I turn on system sounds in KDE? All other sounds (internet videos, amarok, etc.) work fine.
[07:16] <illmatik`> ah got it
[07:17] <illmatik`> there is no kdesu in usr/bin
[07:17] <Parkotron> illmatik`: I make that mistake so frequently I've had to map cd.. to cd ..
[07:17] <midspeed> how do i format a NTFS partition hard drive on kubuntu 6.06???????
[07:17] <illmatik`> i see kdesu_stub
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> midspeed: mkfs.ntfs
[07:18] <midspeed> mkfs.ntfs on the konsole??? and thats it
[07:18] <midspeed> ?
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> midspeed: ie, mkfs.ntfs /dev/hda1 will format partition 1 of your primary IDE in ntfs.
[07:18] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Try "which kdesu".
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> midspeed: open konsole and type 'man mkfs.ntfs'
[07:19] <midspeed> ok
[07:19] <illmatik`> nothing happens
[07:20] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Hmm. That's a doosy of a problem.
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[07:20] <Parkotron> illmatik`: For the moment you can edit that file in a console with "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst".
[07:21] <illmatik`> thanks
[07:21] <illmatik`> now a general question...how do you know the names of these programs so that I can download them through the terminal as i did konversationter
[07:21] <illmatik`> for instancve i need to get QTparted.
[07:22] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: did you install from kubuntu CD or ubuntu CD?
[07:22] <illmatik`> kubuntu
[07:23] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Use KMenu|System|Adept. It's a graphical frontend that lets you search and browse for software.
[07:23] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: konversation should have been installed as well by default. I think. you should run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and have it install all the kubuntu desktop all over again.
[07:23] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: or at least it should install any missing parts.
[07:24] <illmatik`> yeah...Kemenu|System|Adept isnt even there
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> you need to install kubuntu-desktop you've got some severely missing parts there. You didn't do a "server" install when you installed did you?
[07:25] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Yes, you've definitely got an incomlete or nonstandard install there.
[07:25] <illmatik`> not sure wha thappened
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> heh, neither am I.
[07:26] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Well, it least what you do have is running! :) That's an an accomplishment in itself for many Linux beginners.
[07:27] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: if you run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' it should get you to a complete running kubuntu system.
[07:27] <illmatik`> i did the command to install kubuntu-desktop and it didnt really do anything
[07:27] <illmatik`> nothing downloaded or installed
[07:27] <Parkotron> illmatik`: What exactly did it say?
[07:28] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[07:28] <LeeJunFan> !pastebin
[07:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:29] <illmatik`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25548/
[07:30] <illmatik`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25549/
[07:30] <illmatik`> ^ attemping to install kubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <arejaytee> how can i see free space on a drive? i feel stupid not being able to find it lol
[07:31] <LeeJunFan> arejaytee: df -h
[07:32] <LeeJunFan> arejaytee: there are other ways but that's the fastest.
[07:32] <cpk2> thank god apt-get can resume downloads frim where it left off
[07:32] <cpk2> just timed out but it resumed where it left off
[07:32] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: try running 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[07:33] <arejaytee> thanks LeeJunFan
[07:33] <arejaytee> hrmm 17 gig used ! lol
[07:33] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: I have no idea why it wouldn't be able to install language-selector-qt, it IS in main, and your repos are right.
[07:34] <illmatik`> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
[07:34] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: what about 'sudo apt-get -f upgrade'
[07:34] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: I have a feeling either your download of the CD or the burn is corrupted.
[07:35] <illmatik`> download 54 megs of updates
[07:35] <illmatik`> :)
[07:35] <RawSewage> are you installing Dapper or Edgy
[07:35] <LeeJunFan> dapper
[07:35] <cpk2> amorok and amorok-xine seem to be kept back to matter what?
[07:35] <RawSewage> Edgy has about 25 packages currently held  back
[07:36] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: after that's done try 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[07:36] <illmatik`> :/ its stuck at 0%
[07:36] <LeeJunFan> ugh.
[07:36] <illmatik`> im gonna plug in my wired network
[07:36] <illmatik`> brb
[07:38] <DaSkreech> Good night all
[07:38] <LeeJunFan> gnight DaSkreech
[07:39] <DaSkreech> LeeJunFan: Quick question
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Do you have XGL installed on Edgy Kubuntu?
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: yeah
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> using beryl right now.
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Nice Which Video card?
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> ATI 9700
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Excellent :)
[07:40] <illmatik`> k im on ethernet now...downloading the kubuntu upgrade
[07:40] <DaSkreech>  is there a walktrhough for that?
[07:41] <DaSkreech>  I have a klass I'm teaching and it's an ATI box which I have Kubuntu Beta on
[07:41] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Is it downloading now?
[07:41] <illmatik`> yeah got a minute to go
[07:41] <DaSkreech>  would be fun to casually turn on Beryl and watch them freak
[07:41] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: just follow the existing compiz ones, the repositories are the same, just apt-get install beryl instead of compiz
[07:41] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Well that's an excellent sign. With any luck you should be fully up and running shortly.
[07:41] <DaSkreech> So the install routines haven't changed very much?
[07:42] <illmatik`> awesome, i appreciate the help
[07:42] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: no, you just substitute beryl for compiz, if you are running xgl then use beryl-xgl, and emerald in place of cdwg
[07:43] <DaSkreech> alright thanks :) I'll have to try it out over the next few days
[07:43] <DaSkreech> get drivers first etc
[07:43] <DaSkreech> NIght again
[07:43] <illmatik`> k finished parkotron
[07:44] <illmatik`> wasnt there some other commands you wanted me to do
[07:44] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25550/
[07:44] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: there's my ~/.Xsession to start it. Then if at kdm you choose to run default it will start xgl/beryl
[07:44] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Well, let's start with your original question. Does "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst" work?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> LeeJunFan: Thanks
[07:45] <LeeJunFan> DaSkreech: np, gnight again :)
[07:46] <illmatik`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25551/ - doest work
[07:46] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: now would probably be best to 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[07:47] <Parkotron> illmatik`: OK, not everythings been installed yet. Try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[07:47] <illmatik`> alright! only 750 megs to go
[07:47] <LeeJunFan> whew. it really left out some stuff.
[07:47] <illmatik`> wonder what happened
[07:47] <Parkotron> 750? Wow. That's more than a CDs worth.
[07:47] <LeeJunFan> owell, at least it looks like it's  going in the right direction now. I'm off to bed myself. gnight.
[07:48] <illmatik`> sweet well it looks like im in good shape once this is finished
[07:48] <LeeJunFan> illmatik`: probably so.
[07:48] <illmatik`> from there i should be able to format my partitions correctly
[07:48] <illmatik`> is it possible to access my folders on my windows PC? theyre shared on the network
[07:49] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Yes. I'll try to find a guid for you.
[07:49] <illmatik`> sweet, thanks
[07:50] <Parkotron> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[07:51] <casfindad> Has anyone had luck connecting to Yahoo IM using Kopete?
[07:51] <Healot> like everyday :)
[07:51] <Parkotron> illmatik`: If you only want to browse shared files, that's more than you need, but if you want to share in both directions you'll need to set it all up.
[07:51] <casfindad> Healot: Any suggestions? I can get AIM to work, but not Yahoo.
[07:52] <illmatik`> looks good. how about accessing directories on my other windows partition?
[07:52] <Healot> what seems to be the problem?
[07:52] <Healot> i just enter my username, password, bam connect
[07:52] <Parkotron> illmatik`: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[07:53] <casfindad> Healot: I set up my Yahoo account, hit connect, and the bouncing smiley jumps around until it greys out.
[07:53] <illmatik`> man youre on a roll
[07:53] <casfindad> Healot: I'm behind a router firewall; did you need to forward a port or anything?
[07:53] <Healot> check your username+password? casfindad
[07:53] <Healot> casfindad, yes...
[07:53] <Parkotron> illmatik`: In fact you might want to read everything on psychocats.net/ubuntu . It's all really good beginner information.
[07:53] <illmatik`> right on
[07:54] <casfindad> Healot: I'll do that. Except the same username and passwd work with Gaim on my xubuntu box.
[07:54] <Healot> i can't remember the address setting though, maybe using Windows Y! Messenger and checking the Y! connection would help
[07:55] <casfindad> Healot: So Windows Y! Messenger is available for Linux?
[07:55] <Healot> yes, gaim has the alternate HTTP connection, can't remember whether Kopete has that setting...
[07:55] <Healot> casfindad, obviously there is a Linux port :)
[07:55] <casfindad> Healot: Kopete offer alternate HTTP too.
[07:55] <Parkotron> illmatik`: I too must be off to bed. Can you think of any more questions before I leave you to fend for yourself?
[07:55] <Healot> casfindad, use that HTTP alternate feature too... casfindad
[07:56] <illmatik`> where can i scan and install my printers
[07:56] <illmatik`> and i think im good for tonight :)
[07:56] <Parkotron> illmatik`: What do you mean by "scan"?
[07:56] <illmatik`> maybe the wrong word, i just wanna install the printers on my network
[07:57] <Healot> scan with xsane; setting up printer > KDE control panel...
[07:58] <casfindad> Healot: I'm going to try registering a new Yahoo account. I have a yahoo account through my ISP, but I suspect it may not work for IM.
[07:58] <Parkotron> illmatik`: I don't have much experience with printers but I think you can do most everthing from the Printers module of "systemsettings".
[07:58] <casfindad> Healot: Give me a couple minutes and I'll see how this works.
[07:58] <illmatik`> got it, thanks!
[07:59] <physicsnick> dumb question, how can i see how much free space i have on my separate vfat partition?
[07:59] <Healot> df -mh
[08:00] <physicsnick> thanks
[08:00] <Healot> df is fairly enough, but crypted coz it display in block size
[08:00] <physicsnick> any way for konqueror to tell me this information without having to open up a terminal?
[08:01] <physicsnick> also, what does the -m tag do? it's not in the man page
[08:01] <Parkotron> illmatik`: Good night and good luck. You've been a pleasure to help.
[08:02] <Parkotron> physicsnick: Displays info in MB rather than blocks.
[08:02] <illmatik`> thanks buddy
[08:02] <illmatik`> i appreciate it
[08:02] <Healot> physicsnick, it works right?
[08:04] <physicsnick> yes
[08:04] <physicsnick> it works
[08:04] <physicsnick> but i don't want to open a terminal every time i want to see my disk space
[08:04] <physicsnick> why can't konqueror just tell me when i'm browsing the drive?
[08:05] <physicsnick> Parkotron, -h displays in mb, not -m. i don't know what -m does.
[08:05] <Healot> physicsnick, how about the media tree?
[08:05] <Healot> you know the one folder that list your mounted medias?
[08:06] <physicsnick> yes, yes
[08:06] <physicsnick> this is wierd
[08:06] <Healot> you can check the disk space, by right clicking the icon
[08:06] <physicsnick> now it's telling me the disk space when i right click and say properties on the mount point
[08:06] <physicsnick> but if i go system menu -> storage media and right click on the drive and click properties, it doesn't work
[08:06] <physicsnick> hmph
[08:07] <physicsnick> right click on the partition i mean
[08:07] <Healot> on the media tree? physicsnick
[08:07] <Healot> because  system menu -> storage media points to the same place... it should werk
[08:09] <physicsnick> yes, it works on the media tree or if i right click on the mount point itself but it doesn't work on the partition in storage media
[08:10] <physicsnick> oh well, no matter
[08:10] <physicsnick> i'll just get rid of system menu
[08:10] <physicsnick> and replace it with my own links to my partitions
[08:15] <debatem1> hey all, quick question, has anyone here gotten avrdude to work under wine?
[08:16] <debatem1> rather, has anyone gotten avrstudio working under wine?
[08:18] <illmatik`> hi guys, im trying to resize my two partitions (kubuntu and windows) using QTParted
[08:18] <illmatik`> i accidently made my kubuntu 80 gigs and my windows 20, when i want it the other way around
[08:18] <illmatik`> but its not letting me resize those partitions
[08:19] <method|> how do I install ksynaptics? it's not in my repos (i havent added any)
[08:22] <cpk2> !info ksynaptics
[08:22] <ubotu> ksynaptics: A KDE application to configure Synaptics TouchPad. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.4-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 908 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc kfreebsd-i386)
[08:22] <cpk2> method|: you need universe
[08:22] <method|> how do i enable universe?
[08:22] <cpk2> edit your sources.list
[08:23] <cpk2> !sourceomatic
[08:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:23] <cpk2> you can generate a sources list there
[08:23] <cpk2> !repos
[08:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:23] <cpk2> might also have valuable information
[08:24] <method|> i remember there being an easy way to enable universe in synaptic
[08:27] <cpk2> i'm sure adept has an easy gui to enable it however i use apt-get so I am not familiar with adept gui
[08:31] <morghanphoenix> What file do you use to check distro for karamba apps?
[08:37] <Dodger> yello
[08:40] <morghanphoenix> anybody know how to set up the distro check in a karamba sys monitor?
[08:45] <arejaytee> why the hell does my network settings keep forgetting my dns server
[08:46] <arejaytee> i set it click apply and then reset keeps it for awhile and then loses it
[08:46] <Dodger> loses it as in, applies a new one?
[08:46] <morghanphoenix> There, that solved it, just deleted the distro section of the code.
[08:49] <Dodger> arejaytee: what does cat /etc/resolv.conf give you?
[08:50] <arejaytee> currently has both dns in it
[08:51] <arejaytee> will wait and see if it happens again and see what it contains then
[08:52] <Dodger> here's my question: my nforce4 raid won't mount anymore since i upgraded to edgy... /dev/mapper is empty except for control, and dmraid -ay doesn't find the partitions...
[08:52] <Dodger> any takers?
[08:54] <cpk2> Dodger: i think edgy questions are answered better in #ubuntu+1
[08:54] <Dodger> ah... thankee :)
[09:00] <koli> hi all
[09:01] <koli> how do i change settings in kubuntu
[09:01] <Smooph> ^^
[09:01] <Smooph> koli: what settings ?
[09:02] <koli> any setting
[09:02] <koli> for example
[09:02] <koli> effects
[09:02] <koli> like the yast2 in suse
[09:04] <Smooph> i am not sure what you mean but try the system settings
[09:04] <koli> i don;t have i
[09:04] <koli> how can i find it
[09:05] <Smooph> open the menu and look for system settings
[09:06] <koli> i don;t have it that;'s the problem
[09:06] <koli> maybe it is not installed
[09:06] <Smooph> ^^
[09:06] <koli> how can i install iit
[09:07] <Smooph> you use kde right
[09:07] <koli> yes
[09:07] <koli> i found it
[09:07] <koli> whatever
[09:08] <koli> the package its not installed
[09:08] <koli> im going to install it now
[09:11] <arejaytee> Dodger: u still there?
[09:12] <arejaytee> if i leave the network settings box open it stays, ive just closed it and it deletes it from the resolve.conf also
[09:28] <buz> is there any kde vnc viewer in kubuntu?
[09:30] <MistaED> buz: afaik, i think krdc is kde's vnc viewer
[09:30] <buz> right
[09:31] <buz> very sensibly named
[09:35] <buz> MistaED: thanks, that what i was looking for the whole time
[10:01] <morla> anybody here?
[10:02] <Healot> sure morla
[10:02] <morla> hi
[10:02] <morla> I was wondering why m,y screensaver isn't working
[10:03] <morla> it seems to be related to the restricted modules, nvidia driver
[10:05] <morla> with nv it works; with nvidia not, and i also cannot change resolution, the kde display settings module is broken
[10:09] <arejaytee> friggin azureus window is stuck open and i cant close the bastard
[10:09] <arejaytee> the warning box
[10:09] <arejaytee> how can i see active process to kill diff programs
[10:15] <KDEfanboy> arejaytee: does CTRL-ESC bring up the process table? (i don't remember if it's default or i changed it)
[10:16] <arejaytee> nada
[10:16] <arejaytee> yeah it does sorry
[10:16] <arejaytee> lappy running slow
[10:16] <arejaytee> lol
[10:17] <KDEfanboy> arejaytee: ok. also if you want to kill a window's process, do CTRL+ALT+ESC , which will change the mouse cursor to a skull (dfeault) and then click the window
[10:18] <KDEfanboy> ESC or right-click will cancel the click-to-kill
[10:19] <DeMoNSeEd> hello
[10:22] <arejaytee> sweet thanks KDEfanboy
[10:22] <arejaytee> anyone able to help getting java going? ive installed it but firefox doesnt see it and azureus doesnt display its windows properly
[10:23] <Healot> !java
[10:23] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:24] <Healot> arejaytee, do you configure java yet?
[10:25] <Ranma2264> Im getting an unhandled msn error 403 on Kopete trying to login to msn but I'm sure that my password is right anyone out there with the same issue?
[10:26] <arejaytee> no i had only just finished installing from thier site, but using the link given by ubotu now
[10:26] <Healot> 403: Forbidden?
[10:27] <Ranma2264> the message says unhandled msn error code 403
[10:27] <Ranma2264> Maybe something changed on msn protocol or maybe not im just guessing
[10:28] <Ranma2264> and I have the latest kopete
[10:30] <DeadSouL> I downloaded Google Earth download file for linux which has .bin extension. How can I install it?
[10:31] <Ranma2264> chmod +x filename
[10:31] <Ranma2264> and then sh filename as a user
[10:31] <DeadSouL> Thanks a lot Ranma2264
[10:31] <Ranma2264> no problem
[10:31] <Ranma2264> and for system wide kdesu sh filename
[10:36] <MDCore> how do I get WEP working ??
[10:45] <daurnimator> hi all
[10:45] <daurnimator> anyone around?
[10:46] <daurnimator> !sound
[10:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:48] <arejaytee> anyone know of a ftp client that has ssl ?
[10:48] <arejaytee> im kinda suprised i cant find one for LINUX !
[10:51] <Healot> filezilla!
[10:52] <Healot> with a bit of WINE it should work
[10:56] <frojnd> I have Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;  bit it wont install flash player. It allwasy announce that it can't becouse 64bit is not good..
[10:57] <frojnd> but*
[10:57] <frojnd> I have 64bit processor and also kubuntu 6.10 je 64bit
[10:58] <main2> i would like my server running kubuntu (whehehe:), to login to KDE automaticly
[10:59] <main2> so ive activated 'automatic login' for a certain user
[10:59] <main2> but it doesnt work, what things do i have to keep in mind?
[11:05] <avagant> Ok guys.
[11:05] <main2> Ok boy
[11:05] <main2> .
[11:05] <rod> hi!  i installed kubuntu on my laptop before and my wireless card was detected and worked fine, but i have reinstalled since and this time it wasn't picked up.  it's an intel wireless card (ipw3945 i think), is there some way i can just re-run whatever the installer does without re-installing the complete distro?  i asked in the ubuntu channel and was told about gnome-network-manager that it might help, is there a kde equivalent?
[11:05] <avagant> How might I ask, do you get into super user/root whatever when I'm not in the terminal to change files.
[11:06] <main2> rod: 'lcpci' < do you see the card?
[11:06] <main2> if so, then 'dmesg|grep ipw3945' ,and tell me what comes out
[11:06] <sarah> hi
[11:07] <main2> avagant: kdesu
[11:07] <avagant> i just want to edit files, that's all.
[11:07] <avagant> haha
[11:07] <rod> main2: yes i think so, it comes up as - Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 4222 (rev 02)
[11:07] <avagant> but is there anything i put after that?
[11:07] <main2> rod: 'Unknown device 4222' the device driver did not load for this thing im afraid
[11:07] <arejaytee_> can someone send me a .txt of something please wanna test if i have router setup right
[11:07] <rod> i found a project on sf.net about this driver but following the instructions didn't work for me, and i've heard that this is actually supported by dapper (well, i know it is as it worked for me before)
[11:08] <sarah> what line do I need in /etc/fstab to automatically  mount  /dev/hda4  to  /home/mydir/foobar/   ?   It should be WRITEABLE mounted  also for me as user(!)  -  /dev/hda4  is  FAT32
[11:08] <Gean> i need help: on startup i get this weird window to "open file with" , the file is COMPIZ.SAVE
[11:08] <main2> avagant: if you make a shortcut on your desktop to 'kdesu kate' or kwrite
[11:08] <Gean> I get it every time on startup
[11:08] <main2> then you have a 'root' privileges editor
[11:08] <Gean> quite annoying
[11:09] <main2> Gean: thats because you have a file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:09] <rod> main2: does this mean i have to find the right driver?  or that there's no hope?
[11:09] <main2> delete it, your not using XGL anyway i guess?
[11:09] <main2> rod: you need to find the right driver, but what did the grep output?
[11:10] <avagant> oh so i would have to puut kdesu and then kate?
[11:10] <Gean> main2 i like to use XGL, but i can't figure out how to install
[11:11] <rod> the grep?  u mean the output of lspci?  that's what i posted, it's - Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 4222 (rev 02)
[11:11] <Gean> i'm quite a Kubuntu-newby
[11:11] <main2> rod: here is the howto for you driver, make sure that you dont just type over the version numbers http://swm1.com/inspiron_e1505.html
[11:11] <rod> main2: thanks a lot!
[11:11] <main2> Gean: that is obvious, but XGL is so alpha - that even i stopped using it :P
[11:11] <main2> open a console and type this:
[11:11] <main2> 'cd ~/.kde/Autostart'
[11:12] <main2> 'ls'
[11:12] <main2> now you see the compiz file..
[11:12] <main2> 'rm nameofthescript' and it wont bother you any longer
[11:12] <Gean> bash: cd: /home/jan/.kde/autostart: No such file or directory
[11:12] <Gean> HUH?
[11:15] <main2> its case sensitive, use upper/lowercase
[11:15] <main2> *NIX (linux etc) is all case sensitive, make sure that you type it right..
[11:15] <main2> im rb, need to change one setting..
[11:15] <Gean> i see
[11:22] <Gean> how do i open a *.bin file? sorry for the noob-question ...
[11:23] <KDEfanboy> Gean: what do you mean by open it?
[11:25] <Gean> install or something
[11:26] <Gean> it's a file i downloaded to make a java vm in linux
[11:26] <Gean> i suppose i should install something
[11:27] <Gean> java_ee_sdk-5-linux.bin on my desktop
[11:27] <KDEfanboy> Gean: make sure it's executable first. either 'chmod u+x file.bin' in shell, or right click in Konqueror and go to properties. then execute it, with either ./file.bin or double click in konqueror/dekstop
[11:28] <main2> Gean: start using the konsole
[11:29] <Gean> main2 i opened console ...
[11:29] <main2> good, now start using it
[11:30] <Gean> what do you mean :p
[11:30] <main2> Gean: read trough this http://www.math.mcgill.ca/services/linux_basics.php you lazy cheek
[11:31] <Gean> how wait
[11:31] <Gean> i made it executable, and now i get an install wizard
[11:36] <Gean> ok, is anyone familiar with java?
[11:37] <abattoir> Gean: what's the problem?
[11:37] <Gean> well ... i guess i installed SDK
[11:37] <abattoir> instead of the JRE?
[11:37] <Gean> i don't know, i was told i had to install SDK
[11:38] <abattoir> Gean: what do you need Java for?
[11:38] <abattoir> Gean: are you planning on doing some Java development?
[11:38] <Gean> well, i need it for school :p to make very simple programms
[11:38] <abattoir> Gean: or do you just need to run a java application?
[11:38] <Gean> development
[11:38] <abattoir> Gean: ok, the SDK was right...
[11:38] <abattoir> *then
[11:39] <abattoir> since you seem to be a beginner, an IDE might also help things a bit
[11:39] <Gean> IDE ?
[11:39] <abattoir> Gean: yes, an Integrated Development Environment
[11:39] <abattoir> Gean: get either Eclipse or Netbeans
[11:40] <Gean> at school we are working with kate
[11:40] <Gean> i'd like to do at home the same
[11:40] <abattoir> Gean: ah ok, then use it :P
[11:40] <Gean> yeah but it doesn't know the java-commands
[11:40] <arejaytee> anyone got iglooftp pro? i need a ftp client that supports ssl
[11:40] <abattoir> kate comes preinstalled w/ Kubuntu
[11:40] <Gean> to run and compile a java-file
[11:41] <Gean> that's why i was told to install SDK
[11:41] <abattoir> Gean: how do you do it in school? your save the file in kate and then run a command?
[11:41] <Gean> yup
[11:41] <abattoir> arejaytee: i'd expect kbear or konqueror to do the job...
[11:42] <abattoir> Gean: ok, you got sdk installed?
[11:42] <Gean> but i was wondering, is there a major difference between kate and eclipse/netbeans?
[11:42] <Gean> i thinks so yes
[11:42] <Gean> i got this binfile on my desktop, made it an executable, and ran it, got trough the installation wizard
[11:43] <dudemeister> hiho! anyone of u using the fish shell?
[11:43] <abattoir> Gean: ok, then should have gone through correctly, unless there was an error messagae
[11:43] <Gean> nope, no error
[11:43] <abattoir> dudemeister: i use fish:/ in konqueror...
[11:43] <abattoir> Gean: ok, that sounds good
[11:43] <arejaytee> konqueror doesnt do it properly for some reason ill try kbear
[11:43] <abattoir> Gean: do you have the file opened in kate?
[11:44] <Gean> i have nog
[11:44] <Gean> now*
[11:44] <dudemeister> abattoir: oh, what u mean in konqueror?
[11:44] <abattoir> Gean: one sec
[11:44] <Gean> allright
[11:45] <abattoir> dudemeister: enter fish://name@domain.com in konqueror
[11:45] <abattoir> dudemeister: of course, replace that w/ your own name and domain
[11:46] <M4X1MUM> I got this message--> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[11:46] <M4X1MUM> what is the problem?
[11:46] <abattoir> !baddevice
[11:46] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[11:46] <abattoir> M4X1MUM: ^^^^ you can safely ignore it
[11:46] <dudemeister> abattoir: has this anything to do with the fish shell???
[11:46] <abattoir> Gean: ok, click on the little Terminal button at the bottom, in kate
[11:46] <M4X1MUM> ooh ok
[11:47] <abattoir> dudemeister: ok, sorry, my mistake, i thought you were referring to something ssh-based...
[11:48] <Gean> yes ...
[11:48] <dudemeister> abattoir: that's ok. thx anyway :)
[11:48] <Gean> i've been there, but it doenst accept my 'java'-commands like 'javac'
[11:48] <abattoir> Gean: ok, then enter the command you use to compile the source(whatever was taught in your school)
[11:49] <Gean> bash: javac: command not found
[11:49] <abattoir> Gean: hmm, wait a sec, then you didn't install it properly...
[11:50] <M4X1MUM> is automatix a commonly used package?
[11:51] <abattoir> Gean: where is the j2sdk1.4.2.... directory?
[11:52] <abattoir> Gean: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/install-linux.html#self-extracting
[11:52] <abattoir> Gean: i know its almost the same as what you did...
[11:52] <abattoir> Gean: but install it in a more global location, and export the path to javac
[11:53] <Gean> i'll try this page
[11:53] <Gean> thanks anyway !
[11:54] <Gean> but hey
[11:54] <Gean> my bin file has this name: java_ee_sdk-5-linux.bin
[11:54] <Gean> nothing like j2sdk-1_4_2_<version>-linux-i586.bin
[11:55] <abattoir> i think you got the enterprise edition
[11:55] <Gean> i see
[11:55] <abattoir> you'd need the standard edition i think
[11:55] <abattoir> where did you get it from?
[11:56] <Gean> http://java.sun.com/javaee/downloads/index.jsp
[11:56] <abattoir> Gean: were you aske to go there by any chance?
[11:56] <abattoir> *specifically asked to go there
[11:56] <M4X1MUM> how do i know if nvidia driver have been installed or not?
[11:57] <Gean> i posted my problem on a forum of our school, and a student posted this url
[11:58] <abattoir> Gean: i dont know, maybe your school's curriculum is on the EE... might want to double check on that...
[11:58] <abattoir> Gean: if it's the EE, then you're on the right track... just export the path to javac, and you are done
[11:59] <Gean> how do i export the path to javac?
[12:00] <abattoir> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html has EE and SE stuff, weird
[12:00] <Gean> on this page i suppose i need to download J2SE SDK ?
[12:01] <abattoir> Gean: find where javac is in that folder
[12:01] <abattoir> Gean: well, as i said, you might want to clarify first... if your school teaches EE, then i might be wrong
[12:02] <Gean> j2sdk-1_4_2_<version>-linux-i586.bin
[12:02] <Gean> wait
[12:02] <Gean> javac is in SUNWappserver/jdk/bin
[12:03] <abattoir> hmm, i think in the SE its under Sun.../bin/javac'
[12:04] <abattoir> Gean: export PATH="$PATH:<enter path here>/javac"
[12:04] <Gean> allright, i'll get the SE
[12:04] <abattoir> Gean: ^^^that's the command to export the path
[12:04] <Gean> in konsole?
[12:04] <abattoir> mm, yes
[12:05] <Gean> i might look stupid, but i don't understand what you are telling me te do
[12:06] <Gean> i'm just new on linux,
[12:06] <Gean> that's probably why
[12:06] <Gean> but i'm off to lunch
[12:06] <Gean> i'll try the SE when i get back
[12:06] <Gean> thanks for all
[12:07] <abattoir> Gean: when you enter the 'javac' command, 'Bash'(or the thing which handles all this) does not know where to look for it
[12:07] <octan> anyone running firefox 2 beta :P
[12:07] <abattoir> Gean: so you are manually 'exporting' the path, telling it where to find javac
[12:08] <abattoir> Gean: and while installing the SDK, follow the official Installation instructions in the Sun site
[12:08] <abattoir> Gean: copy it the bin to somewhere like /usr/java(make it if it doesn't exist, 'sudo mkdir /usr/java'
[12:08] <abattoir> Gean: then extract it as root inside that directory
[12:09] <abattoir> (just prefix sudo to the extraction command, one you are in that directory)
[12:09] <abattoir> Gean: then you'd need to export the path to /usr/java/j2sd..../bin/javac, and you should be good to go :0
[12:10] <octan> put the path to java in ld.conf.so :P
[12:21] <arejaytee> whats a good cd/dvd image viewer ?
[12:21] <arejaytee> iso and so forth to open them instead of burning
[12:22] <abattoir> arejaytee: ark might handle it... not sure
[12:22] <abattoir> arejaytee: or you could mount the iso
[12:22] <arejaytee> hrmm good idea
[12:23] <octan> yea mount the iso
[12:23] <klingsor> cpl-tnt44: Are you online?
[12:23] <arejaytee> im guessing i cant do with a context menu lol
[12:23] <octan> mount -o loop /file.iso /path
[12:27] <arejaytee> ./file.iso: No such file or directory
[12:28] <arejaytee> sudo mount -o loop /file.iso /files/iso/new.iso
[12:31] <abattoir> arejaytee: i actually remember seeing a service menu for it over at kde-apps ;
[12:31] <abattoir> ;)
[12:32] <abattoir> http://www.kde-apps.org/conten
[12:32] <abattoir> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[12:36] <arejaytee> thanks
[12:43] <Gean> abattoir: i installed SDK SE
[12:43] <Gean> standard it is extracted to my desktop
[12:44] <arejaytee> abattoir: that shell script is sweet
[12:44] <arejaytee> cept it aint work for me lol
[12:45] <Gean> abattoir: you told me to make a new folder un "usr" but i can't, permission denied
[12:45] <zorglu_> wow just tried krename... doesnt seem easy to rename file with it :)
[12:45] <M4X1MUM> alright people, how do i create a partition? I already delete a partition using qtparted, but the create option is not enabled
[12:46] <zorglu_> M4X1MUM: select an empty space/partition to enable it ?
[12:46] <M4X1MUM> i know that, its not working
[12:46] <M4X1MUM> mkft.ext3 doesnt work either
[12:46] <zorglu_> i think you know too much for me :)
[12:47] <M4X1MUM> :(
[12:50] <morghanphoenix> !restricted formats
[12:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:50] <Gean> how can i make a new folder in "usr" ?
[12:51] <Gean> i always got "permission denied"
[12:52] <zorglu_> Gean: "mkdir yourname"
[12:52] <zorglu_> "sudo mkdir yournamefolder"
[12:52] <Gean> yeah
[12:52] <Gean> allright, how do i make it accessible, so i can copy files into it?
[12:53] <zorglu_> man mkdir
[12:54] <zorglu_> man chown
[12:54] <zorglu_> man chmod
[12:54] <zorglu_> thhis will give you the basic of file right management in unix
[12:55] <Gean> zorglu_: i don't get the last part
[12:55] <Gean> suppose the folder's name is Java
[01:13] <ubuntu> I get this when trying to install kubuntu: "could not install bootloader
[01:13] <ubuntu> and after mounting and checking
[01:13] <ubuntu> there is no /boot/grub folder ..
[01:13] <ubuntu> whatsup?
[01:13] <ninHer> hi all
[01:14] <ubuntu> there are only  a few *.386 files in the /boot
[01:15] <lluka> hey does anyone know how to install the drivers for an intel 945g?
[01:16] <n3storm> lluka: from what I know the module is already installed in dapper
[01:16] <n3storm> i900
[01:17] <lluka> hmm odd koz i cant change my screen res past 1024x768
[01:17] <bele> lluka: I guess it works out-of-box
[01:17] <bele> lluka: you should instaa package 915resoltuion
[01:17] <lluka> lemme look for that
[01:18] <lluka> ok installed
[01:18] <lluka> im unfamiliar with this... do i have to restart x?
[01:19] <bele> lluka: yes
[01:19] <lluka> k brb
[01:19] <bele> and before that
[01:22] <M4X1MUM> !dapper
[01:22] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[01:25] <ubuntu> possible to install grub if /boot/grub doesn't exist?
[01:26] <MenZa> !grub > ubunt
[01:26] <MenZa> !grub > ubuntu
[01:26] <MenZa> there we go.
[01:26] <ubuntu> I tried istalling using the howto from the forums, but that requires /boot/grub to be present
[01:27] <ubuntu> MenZa: no, those require that /boot/grub be present
[01:27] <ubuntu> I tried boot floppies
[01:27] <MenZa> ubuntu: oh?
[01:27] <MenZa> !info grub
[01:27] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[01:27] <lluka> how do i use 915resolution?
[01:28] <bele> lluka: easiest is to reboot
[01:28] <lluka> just did
[01:28] <bele> lluka: and it didnt work?
[01:28] <lluka> i dont see any other res in my control panel
[01:28] <lluka> but im thinking i can do it from the terminal
[01:29] <bele> lluka: it should automatically work with your screens navite resolution
[01:30] <lluka> well, im not in kde, maybe thats why
[01:30] <lluka> im using enlightenment
[01:30] <bele> lluka:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver?highlight=%28915%29
[01:31] <lluka> thnx
[01:44] <lluka> hey im using 915resolution but it makes my screen flicker
[01:44] <lluka> and turn off
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> ?? @ 915
[01:45] <lluka> im trying to change my resolution past 1024x768
[01:45] <Mortice> lluka: I assume you mean you're passing vga=915 to the kernel at boot time. when exactly does your screen flicker? when X starts, or during the bootup process?
[01:46] <lluka> when x restarted
[01:46] <lluka> not at boot time i havent added that yet
[01:46] <Mortice> lluka: well, what do you mean by 915resolution?
[01:46] <lluka> its an application
[01:47] <lluka> it replaces resolution with another
[01:47] <Mortice> lluka: what's wrong with kubuntu's programs for that?
[01:47] <lluka> kubuntu wont let me go past a certain res
[01:47] <Mortice> oh, i see, this appears to be an intel 915 chipset thing
[01:48] <lluka> yah
[01:48] <lluka> i think the problem is the monitor tho
[01:48] <lluka> :S
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> lluka: always manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file
[01:48] <Mortice> lluka: i'm afraid i have no experience with 915 chipsets, but have you tried enabling other resolutions by doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[01:49] <Linux_Galore> lluka: the 915 chipset doesnt define the resolution your monitor does
[01:49] <lluka> hmm
[01:49] <lluka> well it lists modes i can choose
[01:49] <lluka> lemme try reconfiguring xorg
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> lluka: look for the line DefaultColorDepth
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> lluka: in my case its 23
[01:50] <Linux_Galore> 24 sorry
[01:50] <lluka> hmm ok
[01:50] <thygrrr> Can I somehow tell Konqueror to automagically try "www.hostname.tld" if "hostname.tld" alone doesn't work?
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> then I look further down for Subsection "Display" , Depth 24
[01:51] <Linux_Galore> the following line sets my default resolution Virtual 1280 1024
[01:52] <Linux_Galore> lluka: change that to what you want it to be
[01:53] <lluka> im afraid to do this because it might not come back on :S
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> lluka: well make a copy of the xorg.conf  file call it xorg.conf_back
[01:54] <Linux_Galore> lluka: if X fails just rename the back file to the original name and delete the modified file
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> lluka: you can test it before you logout
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> just in case
[01:55] <Linux_Galore> lluka: press ctrl alt F1  login then type  xinit /usr/bin/startkde -- :1
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> lluka: should start a new X session with the new resolution
[01:56] <Linux_Galore> lluka: to kill it press ctrl alt backspace and to go back to your original desktop press ctrl alt F6
[01:57] <Linux_Galore> lluka: Linux can suppoer multiple graphical sessions at the same time
[01:57] <Linux_Galore> support*
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> thygrrr: konqueror should automatically already do that
[02:08] <lluka> thanks guys the xorg.conf editing worked!
[02:08] <lluka> :)
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> lluka: we aim to please
[02:15] <lluka> anyone know where i can find the doom iwad?:p
[02:16] <_ikk> ei,lluka
[02:16] <_ikk> how du you du
[02:17] <thygrrr> Linux_Galore, nope, my konqueror doesn't do it (anymore?). That's why I'm asking.
[02:22] <Knifa> when i try to install kubuntu onto my computer, the live boot cd dies at mounting root system and the alternative cd refuses to detect my cd-drive
[02:22] <Knifa> what should i do D:
[02:22] <Knifa> get another cd drive?
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> thygrrr: Settings->Configure Konqueror  goto web shortcuts  and define one
[02:23] <klingsor> Knifa: other drive is a good choice...
[02:23] <Knifa> i'll give it a try
[02:23] <klingsor> Knifa: Had a similar problem once
[02:23] <Knifa> i tried it last night but it wouldn't POST. i didn't check the pins so it was probably that
[02:23] <Knifa> and i just went to bed.
[02:24] <Knifa> i'll go give it a try now
[02:24] <Knifa> :3
[02:32] <Knifa> same deal
[02:32] <Knifa> :
[02:32] <Knifa> :/
[02:33] <Knifa> dies at mounting root system
[02:33] <Knifa> or whatever
[02:33] <Knifa> i think its' my mobo
[02:34] <IndyBC> How can I change the song information (artist, album etc) about a .mp3 file?
[02:36] <KDEfanboy> IndyBC: in amarok, right click the file and select 'Track Information...'
[02:38] <[GuS] > Bonjour
[02:38] <KDEfanboy> !fr
[02:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:39] <elias_> I know this is the wrong place but the ubuntu guys don't seem to know: Does anybody know how to print to PDF in gnome?
[02:47] <ArRiEsP17> ola
[02:48] <KDEfanboy> !es
[02:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:50] <ArRiEsP17> ok sorry
[02:50] <KDEfanboy> np
[02:52] <tomek_> Cze
[02:52] <KDEfanboy> !cz
[02:52] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[02:53] <tomek_> mam pyatnie apropos firewalla
[02:53] <tomek_> jakiego uywacie ??
[02:53] <tomek_> do Kubuntu
[02:54] <KDEfanboy> i have no idea
[02:54] <KDEfanboy> :)
[02:54] <tomek_> :)
[02:55] <tomek_> what firewall do you use on Kubuntu ??
[02:56] <sudharsh> tomek_: firestarter, afaik, kubuntu is fine by itself...
[02:56] <tomek_> hmmm
[02:56] <KDEfanboy> !firewall
[02:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[02:57] <tomek_> ok I understand
[02:57] <bele> or GuardDog for firewall cong
[02:57] <octan> hey can i run google earth in amd64 ?
[02:57] <tomek_> already I have guarddog on system
[02:58] <tomek_> but it doesn ;t work
[02:58] <tomek_> I don;t know what is a problem
[02:58] <bele> tomek_: really? should work :)
[02:59] <tomek_> really ...
[03:00] <tomek_> may I use a firestarter ??
[03:00] <tomek_> on Kubuntu ??
[03:01] <[GuS] > tomek_, yes
[03:01] <klingsor> tomek_: why not?
[03:02] <tomek_> I think that Gnome's program .................:)
[03:02] <[GuS] > tomek_, and?
[03:02] <[GuS] > QT handles very well GTK apps
[03:02] <[GuS] > more than GTK could with QT...
[03:02] <tomek_> and,... I don t know :))
[03:03] <[GuS] > tomek_, you could install i will work very well
[03:03] <drbeams> is there a way to pull system info as in mobo model, or nic model # from the pc in kubuntu with a live disc ?
[03:03] <[GuS] > nothing have to do that is an "gnome" app...
[03:03] <tomek_> ok thanks
[03:03] <[GuS] > drbeams, in console, lspci
[03:03] <tomek_> bye
[03:04] <[GuS] > or just in K-menu, System, KInfoCenter
[03:06] <v3ctor> does the livecd have lshw ?
[03:09] <dragonfire1> gm
[03:09] <diswill> hello everyone. I seem to have lost sound recently. would someone help me get sound working again?
[03:10] <spriet> hi
[03:10] <diswill> hi spriet
[03:11] <spriet> i  installed first kubuntu and then Suse and no i like to mount the partition witch contains Suse somone can helb me?
[03:12] <diswill> I do the mounting by editing the /ect/fstab
[03:14] <spriet> k thx
[03:16] <dragonfire1> Where would you find to edit teh /etc/fstab in the kernal command to do that sorry newbie trying to partion also
[03:16] <octan> !amd64
[03:16] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[03:16] <octan> !amd64 google eart
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd64 google eart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <octan> !google earth amd64
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google earth amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <octan> crapy bot
[03:20] <main2> octan: stupid you :p
[03:20] <main2> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:21] <octan> main2, you mean http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Google_Earth
[03:21] <octan> it suxz
[03:23] <grizzly> urgh the kubuntu installer is so buggyyyyy!!!
[03:23] <main2> octan: UTFS :D
[03:23] <grizzly> one cannot install with xfs partition
[03:23] <main2> grizzly: just use normal ext3, its the best
[03:24] <grizzly> main2: just want to play with it
[03:24] <grizzly> have a look
[03:25] <gnomefreak> grizzly: might try using the alternate installer for that
[03:25] <grizzly> gnomefreak: the alternate cd u mean?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:25] <gpkumaran> @everyone, please tell me info about installing packages
[03:25] <octan> main2, what are you talking about
[03:25] <gnomefreak> !adept > gpkumaran
[03:26] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: read your m from ubotu
[03:26] <grizzly> gnomefreak: that I can't @ 64kbps
[03:26] <grizzly> but nvmind
[03:26] <gnomefreak> s/m/pm
[03:26] <main2> octan: im telling you to use the fuckin search =)
[03:26] <grizzly> heres the bug report with a solution: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugs/2006-June/231189.html
[03:26] <gnomefreak> main2: watch your language
[03:26] <main2> !friendly
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about friendly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <octan> main2, i did and i dont find anything about it
[03:26] <grizzly> !being friendly
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about being friendly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <grizzly> lol
[03:27] <octan> !stfu
[03:27] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[03:27] <ArRiEsP17> xao gnt
[03:27] <gpkumaran> thank you gnomefreak.
[03:27] <gnomefreak> yw gpkumaran
[03:28] <main2> octan: http://www.ubuntux.org/install-google-earth-on-amd64-via-chroot
[03:29] <rbrunhuber> hi all
[03:30] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: i tried to install yahoo messenger package with right click-->Kubuntu package menu--> install package
[03:31] <gpkumaran> @gnomefreak, but it said that it depends on some other packages
[03:31] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: there a yahoo messanger app in kubuntu?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> messenger*
[03:32] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: sudo apt-get install packagename     replace package name with the name of the package
[03:32] <tomek_> hi, I have one guestions about nvidia
[03:32] <octan> main2, it doesnt worj
[03:32] <gnomefreak> tomek_: go for it
[03:32] <octan> .......Extraction failed.
[03:32] <octan> .Signal caught, cleaning up
[03:33] <tomek_> what may I install ??
[03:33] <gnomefreak> tomek_: nvidia-glx
[03:33] <main2> octan: ur download is broken dude
[03:33] <gpkumaran> when i tried installing those packages, it says that they depend on some other packages and so on...
[03:33] <gpkumaran> what can i do?
[03:33] <tomek_> I have Nvidia 5200 FX T
[03:33] <octan> main2, i downloaded it 2 times now
[03:33] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: are you using dapper?
[03:33] <gpkumaran> yes
[03:33] <gnomefreak> tomek_: thats the right package the nvidia-glx
[03:33] <main2> 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[03:33] <tomek_> legacy ??
[03:34] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: can you paste the output of the command to pastebin
[03:34] <main2> type in konsole..
[03:34] <gnomefreak> tomek_: no
[03:34] <tomek_> ok
[03:34] <tomek_> tkanks
[03:34] <gnomefreak> for the 5200 its nvidia-glx
[03:34] <tomek_> ok
[03:35] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: sorry for being so childish... :-) how can i pastebin
[03:35] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[03:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:36] <gpkumaran> !pastebin
[03:36] <gpkumaran> gpkumaran@gpkumaran-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[03:36] <gpkumaran> (Reading database ... 65393 files and directories currently installed.)
[03:36] <gpkumaran> Preparing to replace ymessenger 1.0.4_1 (using ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb) ...
[03:36] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: just use the link ubotu gave you
[03:36] <gpkumaran> Unpacking replacement ymessenger ...
[03:36] <gpkumaran> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[03:36] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: stop pasting please
[03:36] <gpkumaran>  ymessenger depends on libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0); however:
[03:36] <gpkumaran>   Package libgdk-pixbuf2 is not installed.
[03:36] <gpkumaran>  ymessenger depends on libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:
[03:40] <gpkumaran> !pastebin
[03:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:42] <WinUninstall>  possibile ridimensione una partizione NTFS?
[03:45] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: can i install debian packages in ubuntu
[03:45] <main2> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:45] <main2> gpkumaran: but do not use packages from the debian repository
[03:46] <insanekane>  
[03:46] <hyper> hello abattoir
[03:46] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[03:46] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: please dont use debian repos
[03:46] <abattoir> !fr
[03:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:46] <abattoir> WinUninstall: ^^^^
[03:46] <hyper> abattoir: Just a small question: how can I disable kmix from starting?
[03:47] <WinUninstall> ops
[03:47] <abattoir> WinUninstall: you want to resize your NTFS partition?
[03:47] <WinUninstall> Sorry
[03:47] <gpkumaran> main2: i have already installed certain packages from the debian site(i dunno whats meant by repos)
[03:47] <WinUninstall> abattoir, Yes
[03:47] <hyper> abattoir: I rebooted twice and both times kmix used up all cpu
[03:47] <gpkumaran> sorry i`m a newbie
[03:47] <abattoir> hyper: that's weird
[03:47] <WinUninstall> abattoir, I've readed about ntfsprogs
[03:47] <hyper> resizing ntfs partition: get Partition Magic from PowerQuest
[03:48] <abattoir> WinUninstall: i'd recommend doing it from Windows
[03:48] <WinUninstall> hybrid, It cost...
[03:48] <gpkumaran> main2: then where can i find ubuntu packages. what about the debian packages i already installed
[03:48] <WinUninstall> abattoir, How?
[03:48] <rbrunhuber> is there a "preferred application" gui in kubuntu like in ubuntu?
[03:48] <abattoir> WinUninstall: i think there are shareware/demo applications, which might be helpful
[03:48] <main2> gpkumaran: how did you install them?
[03:49] <abattoir> WinUninstall: using one of thse Partitioning programs ;)
[03:49] <main2> gpkumaran:  did you add the debian repository to your list?
[03:49] <WinUninstall> abattoir, OK
[03:49] <WinUninstall> I will try with gparted
[03:49] <main2> gpkumaran: use adept from 'system' in the kde menu to install software
[03:49] <gpkumaran> main2: by right clicking-->Kubuntu package menu-->install
[03:49] <hyper> rbrunhuber: There is: KDE Button --> System Settings --> Default Applications
[03:50] <abattoir> hyper: do you have session management on?
[03:50] <hyper> WinUninstall: Well, you could get a crack for PM....
[03:50] <hyper> abattoir: Well I guess so... it's a default Edgy install and it keeps starting up the same proggies
[03:51] <abattoir> hyper: ok, did you try closing it when logging out?
[03:51] <abattoir> hyper: please refrain from that here, thanks :)
[03:51] <hyper> abattoir: I just killed the process "kill -9 pid"
[03:52] <rbrunhuber> @hyper: i have no system settings menu. and in system settings their is no default applications button
[03:53] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: are you on Kubuntu?
[03:53] <rbrunhuber> yes i am
[03:53] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: there is no System Settings entry in the Menu?
[03:54] <Mochito> good morning
[03:54] <main2> gpkumaran: use 'adept' or 'apt' to install software, and do not install packages from other distro's
[03:54] <rbrunhuber> abattoir: i just found it but it is not in system settings i have to call kcontrol from the console
[03:54] <gpkumaran> main2: are the programs in windows same as packages in ubuntu
[03:54] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: System settings and Kcontrol have the same modules
[03:55] <rbrunhuber> abattoir: not here
[03:55] <main2> gpkumaran: what are you talking about?
[03:55] <main2> linux != windows
[03:55] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: anyways, go to KDE Components->Default Associations(or some variation of that)
[03:55] <Mochito> i dont' know man
[03:55] <rbrunhuber> abattoir: thank you i already found it
[03:55] <abattoir> rbrunhuber: well, it should be on the menu, unless it was accidentally(or intentionally) removed
[03:55] <gpkumaran> main2: i`m very sorry. i already told you that i`m a newbie.
[03:56] <Mochito> i wanna know how can i install a package
[03:56] <Mochito> ?
[03:56] <hyper> mochito: what package?
[03:56] <hyper> mochito: there are different ways :)
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Mochito,  fire up adept, search, click, install.
[03:56] <main2> gpkumaran: np
[03:57] <hyper> rbrunhuber - can you put a screenshot online?
[03:57] <rbrunhuber> abattoir: i have system-settings in the menu. i just thougth it ought to be a menu not a application.
[03:57] <gpkumaran> main2: i just wanna know what should i do if i wanna install another program like opera or firefox
[03:57] <main2> start adept
[03:57] <Dr_willis> -->   fire up adept, search, click, install.
[03:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:57] <main2> (in the kde menu, click on system - then 'adept' > enter your password)
[03:57] <Dr_willis> or use that add/remove program icon.
[03:57] <gpkumaran> main2: actually whats a package. is it same as a setup file in windows
[03:57] <hyper> or use aptitude or apt-get
[03:58] <main2> gpkumaran: you could compare if you want, but packages are way better then stupid setup.exe files
[03:58] <Dr_willis> package systems are WAY WAY better then setup.exe files...
[03:58] <rbrunhuber> hyper: i solved it already thank you. I sometimes just get a little confuses because i have way to many apps installed (having both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed)
[03:58] <main2> there are also packages containing sourcecode of the program
[03:58] <Dr_willis> its sad when i download 5+ programs for windows.. and they all come named  'setup.exe'
[03:59] <Dr_willis> and then those 5 programs have to have some sort of 'update' feature/systemtrayicon for updates... which is ALSO a feature handled by the package managers. :)
[04:00] <Mochito> can i install karamba in Kubuntu??
[04:00] <Dr_willis> then those 5 progrms also have to put in 'uninstall' icons  normally in their own menus, and in the add/remove programs tool.. which is also handled by the package manager. :P
[04:00] <abattoir> Mochito: karamba or superkaramba?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> !info karamba
[04:00] <ubotu> karamba: A program improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-5.1build1 (dapper), package size 68 kB, installed size 308 kB
[04:00] <Dr_willis> !info superkaramba
[04:00] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[04:00] <gpkumaran> main2: ok. now i wanna install a ftp program for kubuntu. where can i find one and how to install it
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !ftp
[04:01] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:01] <Dr_willis> konqueror the  default file manager can handle ftp..
[04:01] <niroxx> how can i change the size of the desktopicons ?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> or install kbear if you like.
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !info kbear
[04:01] <ubotu> kbear: graphical ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-13ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2401 kB, installed size 8604 kB
[04:02] <gpkumaran> from where can i download these(gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd)
[04:02] <main2> gpkumaran: type 'kbear' in adept -> in the searchbar
[04:02] <main2> it will popup, rightclick and install it
[04:02] <main2> have you found adept meanwhile?
[04:03] <emonkey-p> !kbeat > emonkey-p
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbeat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <emonkey-p> !kbear > emonkey-p
[04:03] <gpkumaran> yes i have found adept and opened it
[04:03] <niroxx> How can i change the size of the desktopicons ?
[04:03] <emonkey-p> !kbear > niroxx
[04:03] <niroxx> oh
[04:04] <niroxx> thanks
[04:04] <gpkumaran> now when i type kbear and press enter. nothing happens
[04:04] <main2> gpkumaran: try to find out what adept is, and how it works
[04:04] <main2> gpkumaran: you have to wait a minute
[04:04] <gpkumaran> !ftp
[04:04] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:05] <main2> stop it
[04:07] <Sanne_> I would also add kftpgrabber to the ftp client lists. I tested it once and it seemed pretty nice. http://www.kftp.org/misc/screenshots
[04:12] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: welcome back. suppose i want to find and install a ftp client in kubuntu 6.06 what shud i do
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: apt-cache search ftp  and see one that sounds good im not sure what good ones kubuntu has
[04:14] <Sanne_> gpkumaran: consider my suggestion above, or just use konqueror.
[04:14] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: try kasablanca
[04:14] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: it says could not run the specified command
[04:14] <gpkumaran> where can i get kasablanca
[04:14] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: what command did you use (i just ran it fine)
[04:14] <gnomefreak> !info kasablanca
[04:14] <ubotu> kasablanca: a FTP client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 157 kB, installed size 600 kB
[04:15] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: the universe repo
[04:15] <abattoir> gnomefreak: i dont even think he has it installed
[04:15] <gnomefreak> abattoir: has what installed?
[04:15] <abattoir> any ftp client, when you said kasablanca, he just tried executing the command
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:15] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: sudo apt-get install kasablanca
[04:15] <abattoir> gpkumaran: people have already told you what to do...
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Oh!
[04:15] <gpkumaran> gnomefreak: apt -cache search ftp
[04:16] <gnomefreak> no space
[04:16] <DaSkreech> What's the mediamanager?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search ftp
[04:16] <gnomefreak> gpkumaran: the other guys would know better what ones are good on kubuntu
[04:16] <gnomefreak> im hacking at gnome right now but later i might end up on kubuntu
[04:16] <DaSkreech> My friend keeps trying media:/ and gets mediamanager not running
[04:17] <omar> do you know games for xubuntu , like spider or sol, how can I get 'em ive tried apt-get install kgames, ksol, but nothing
[04:17] <DaSkreech> omar: try not using the k :)
[04:17] <Dr_willis> defind 'nothing'
[04:17] <DaSkreech> Those are X or gnome games
[04:17] <DaSkreech> !doesn't work
[04:17] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> use adept. search, click, install , enjoy. :P
[04:28] <omar> DaSkreech: you mean synaptic
[04:28] <omar> Dr_Willis: yuo mean synaptic
[04:28] <DaSkreech> omar: Nope I mean you are installing ksol etc when you are looking for a non KDE application
[04:29] <omar> DaSkreech: I just need the games, kde, g , no problem which
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Ah ok :)
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Then apt-get away
[04:29] <DaSkreech> might want to try kpat as well
[04:30] <rbrunhuber> does anyone have the problem to kaddressbook/kontact does not show umlauts in vcards
[04:30] <omar> DaSkreech: come on, please
[04:30] <rbrunhuber> to=too
[04:30] <omar> DaSkreech: ok, like apt-get kpat
[04:30] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kpat
[04:30] <admin__> Poland rulez
[04:32] <admin__> Whats the topic?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> try typing /topic
[04:35] <chx> Xorg eats 97% of my system, what could cause this? What log ifle should I read?
[04:36] <power91> siemka
[04:36] <TheGeek> any experienced users around?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> chx: I guess /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:36] <DaSkreech> TheGeek: Nope You'll have to make do with us :)
[04:36] <power91> see you
[04:36] <DaSkreech> power91: Hi
[04:37] <admin__> POLSKA
[04:38] <TheGeek> alright da;
[04:38] <chx> HUH! Skype 1.3 caused this
[04:38] <TheGeek> how do you change icons in kubentu
[04:39] <omar> thanks
[04:39] <Almad|Notebook> TheGeek: in control panel
[04:40] <admin__> hello there=D
[04:40] <TheGeek> where cani get new themes?
[04:40] <abattoir> TheGeek: kde-look.org
[04:40] <chx> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.ca/189888 this was found in /var/log/messages
[04:40] <Almad|Notebook> Hi, i'm trying to install kinterbasdb 3.2 on Kubuntu...however, no package is available; I'm trying to build it from source, but there are strange errors in building Python-C bindings...any ideas for that or anybody knew of deb package?
[04:41] <TheGeek> almad: have you updated your python?
[04:42] <Almad|Notebook> TheGeek: to what? Using 2.4, there should be no problem
[04:43] <TheGeek> you are right
[04:43] <TheGeek> what errors are you getting
[04:43] <DaSkreech> chx: Looks like kernel stuff
[04:44] <chx> OK
[04:45] <Almad|Notebook> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25585/
[04:45] <gpkumaran> !pastebin
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:45] <Knifa> my mobo haet cubuntu
[04:45] <Knifa> err
[04:45] <Knifa> kubuntu
[04:45] <Knifa> :(
[04:46] <Almad|Notebook> TheGeek: hopefully all required -dev packages should be installed
[04:46] <gpkumaran> anyone know if theres any application for controlling nokia phones(like pc suite)
[04:46] <TheGeek> google it gp
[04:47] <Knifa> can i install kubuntu/ubuntu through windows some how?
[04:47] <Knifa> the installer itself won't detect my cd drive for some unknown reason
[04:48] <Knifa> despite getting into the bootloader from it.
[04:48] <TheGeek> try buring a new image
[04:48] <Knifa> it's the same deal with two of the cds i have
[04:48] <Knifa> the livecd one and the alternative one
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Knifa: Live Cd ?
[04:48] <Knifa> i've also tried with 2 diffrent drives
[04:48] <DaSkreech> Ah ok
[04:48] <TheGeek> which version are you using
[04:48] <Knifa> latest
[04:48] <DaSkreech> did you do a md5 sum on the ISO?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Edgy beta?
[04:49] <Knifa> not a beta no
[04:49] <Knifa> well i don't think so
[04:49] <Knifa> however
[04:49] <Admiral_Chicago> 6.06?
[04:49] <Knifa> the same disc just installer perfectly on another computer
[04:49] <Knifa> yeah 6.06
[04:49] <Knifa> i think it might be my motherboard.
[04:49] <TheGeek> try installing 5.10 and then upgrade
[04:50] <Knifa> it won't actualyl boot into the installer at all though.
[04:50] <Knifa> but sure okay.
[04:50] <TheGeek> have you checked your boot device priority
[04:50] <Knifa> yes
[04:50] <Knifa> it boots to the bit where it asks you to install it
[04:50] <Knifa> with the alternative cd atleast
[04:50] <Knifa> i do that
[04:50] <Knifa> it goes for a bit
[04:50] <Knifa> then says it can't detect my CD drive
[04:51] <Knifa> the live cd gets to mounting root system then dies.
[04:51] <TheGeek> try the 5.10cd
[04:51] <Knifa> kay
[04:51] <Knifa> downloading now
[04:52] <Knifa> i still think it might be my motherboard
[04:52] <Knifa> it has some weird SATA compatability stuff that makes it come up as IDE
[04:52] <pumuky> hay alguien de espaa
[04:52] <Knifa> and turning it off doesn't seem to do anything useful
[04:52] <TheGeek> i have an idea
[04:53] <Knifa> yeah?
[04:53] <TheGeek> if even 5.10 doesn't work
[04:53] <TheGeek> try using the knoppix live cd
[04:53] <Knifa> *terror*
[04:53] <TheGeek> they are both debain based
[04:53] <Sanne_> Knifa: which motherboard is it?
[04:53] <Knifa> Gigabye 965P-DS3
[04:53] <Knifa> *Gigabyte
[04:53] <Knifa> for core 2 duos
[04:55] <sF|Xemanth> is it possible that i could break my whole dapper drake with edgy dist-upgrade ? :D
[04:55] <Sanne_> Knifa: I'm looking through applicable links listed here, maybe you mboard turns up somewhere: http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[04:56] <rbrunhuber> sF|Xemanth: this is software so this is always possible
[04:57] <Knifa> Sanne_ i just googled for my motherboard model number and ubuntu
[04:57] <Knifa> it seems people are having problems with drives
[04:57] <Knifa> like me
[04:57] <Knifa> The 2.6.18 kernel (which is still in beta as of August 23, 2006) incorporates a fix for this problem. To fix this problem on 2.6.17 a patch could be used.
[04:57] <Knifa> mabye i should try the latest beta?
[04:58] <TheGeek> maybe you should
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Knifa: 2.6.18 has gone final about a week ago
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Linux Britannia 2.6.18-01 #1 SMP Wed Sep 20 08:00:45 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Hence why I'm running it :)
[04:58] <Knifa> i will try the beta then
[04:58] <Sanne_> Knifa: ah, maybe you need to, if the standard kernel doesn't support your hardware correctly.
[04:58] <Knifa> yeah
[04:59] <TheGeek> better luck next time
[04:59] <Knifa> ah i can do that
[05:00] <Knifa> or use knoppix
[05:00] <Knifa> or a usb thumbstick
[05:00] <TheGeek> ya do some research and Destruction
[05:01] <Knifa> ah apperntly the latest beta doesn't work either
[05:01] <TheGeek> when did you get the system
[05:01] <Knifa> a few days ago
[05:01] <TheGeek> no wonder
[05:02] <sF|Xemanth> New init system, Upstart <- i wonder how that works from dapper upgrade ^^
[05:02] <Knifa> TheGeek what do you mean?
[05:02] <TheGeek> what is the basic diff between EdGY and Drapper
[05:02] <TheGeek> you a got a new system
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Knifa: I have a great how-to for compiling/building the kernels from kernel.org, even have a script that does it for you automatically
[05:02] <hyper> abbatoir?
[05:03] <Sanne_> Knifa: do you also search in the ubuntuforums? Maybe you get some more info.
[05:03] <Knifa> i found a wiki entry on it
[05:03] <rbrunhuber> sF|Xemanth: I made a dapper upgrade to edgy where edgy still used init and it worked flawlessly
[05:03] <Knifa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[05:03] <Knifa> i need to do it through another live cd
[05:03] <Sanne_> Knifa: ah
[05:03] <Knifa> or a thumb drive (which i don't have)
[05:03] <TheGeek> then try it with a live Cd
[05:04] <Knifa> yeah i am going to
[05:04] <TheGeek> anyway where are u frm: Knifa
[05:04] <hyper> anyone knows how to "autostart" programs into a specific workspace?
[05:04] <Knifa> scotland
[05:04] <Sanne_> Knifa: wow, what a nice wiki entry. I'm contiually amazed about the community resources.
[05:04] <TheGeek> since when have you been using linux
[05:05] <Knifa> i don't usually
[05:05] <Knifa> i'm installing it on another hard drive to check it otu
[05:05] <TheGeek> you
[05:05] <TheGeek> are in my league
[05:05] <Sanne_> Knifa: ahhh, I've been to Scotland once and *loved* it!
[05:05] <Knifa> i've used it before though
[05:05] <Knifa> and my dedicated server runs debian
[05:06] <TheGeek> so anyone knows how can i install new themes
[05:06] <TheGeek> on kubuntu
[05:07] <Knifa> oh apperntly the latest beta does work for my board
[05:07] <Knifa> hurray!
[05:07] <TheGeek> great
[05:07] <TheGeek> long live the Beta
[05:07] <Sanne_> Knifa: wonderful
[05:08] <TheGeek> do you know how to install a new theme
[05:09] <Knifa> i don't :(
[05:09] <TheGeek> anyone else over here knows?????????!!!!
[05:09] <MDCore> TheGeek: try asking in #kde
[05:09] <TheGeek> thx
[05:09] <Sanne_> TheGeek: I remember it was pretty easy, it's somewhere in the kontrol center.
[05:10] <Hawkwind> TheGeek: Download them from kde-look.org and then install them from within kcontrol under Look & Appearance
[05:11] <TheGeek> i'll try
[05:18] <couquinoux> franais?
[05:19] <Hawkwind> !fr
[05:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:23] <TheGeek> hey can i try to install gnome too
[05:30] <dhq> i have the source of xorg 7.1 how do i build it i hit command sudo ./configure
[05:30] <dhq> then what do i do
[05:31] <trappist> you don't sudo ./configure
[05:32] <arafat> dhq: usually type: 'make' then 'sudo make install'
[05:32] <trappist> but if you want xorg 7.1, this might be a good time to install edgy.  installing from source is going to cause you problems.
[05:32] <dhq> trappist: i wanna take the risk
[05:32] <TheGeek> bye guys
[05:32] <dhq> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:33] <trappist> dhq: it's not taking a risk - it *will* cause problems.  upgrading to edgy is a risk, but a sane one.
[05:34] <trappist> and then you get xorg 7.1 for free
[05:34] <kumsy> help regarding installing packages
[05:34] <dhq> trappist: well thats like 20 days more to wait which i cant wait
[05:34] <dhq> wanna try x7.1
[05:36] <octan> Hey guys i need help
[05:36] <octan> im trying to install google earth
[05:37] <octan> i have a amd64 with kubuntu amd64 installed
[05:37] <octan> i got firefox2 beta ,flash and java working
[05:37] <octan> but when i try to install google earth i get this error
[05:37] <octan> .......Extraction failed.
[05:37] <octan> .Signal caught, cleaning up
[05:38] <octan> ermm
[05:38] <octan> nuxil@Nuxil:~$ sudo sh ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[05:38] <octan> Password:
[05:38] <octan> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[05:38] <octan> Uncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.0.2091.....
[05:38] <octan> then
[05:38] <octan> .......Extraction failed.
[05:38] <octan> .Signal caught, cleaning up
[05:39] <octan> i thought that i was a corrupt download
[05:39] <octan> but,, i tryed downloading it like 5 times
[05:39] <octan> both with wget and firefox
[05:40] <kumsy> how to solve dependency problems? from where can i download kdelibs4  libqt3c102-mt libssl0.9.7
[05:40] <dhq> is there a guide to install xserver7.1 from sources
[05:40] <octan> and i have to set up a chrooted 32 bit jail following some wikis but that didnt help
[05:42] <octan> please help.. im open for ideas here
[05:42] <Hawkwind> dhq: Why exactly are you wanting to install xorg-7.1 anyways ?
[05:42] <Hawkwind> octan: Isn't there a deb for Google Earth ?
[05:43] <dhq> Hawkwind: just to try it
[05:43] <Hawkwind> dhq: On dapper ?
[05:43] <octan> Hawkwind, 0.= you kidding?
[05:43] <dhq> Hawkwind: yes
[05:43] <dhq> octan: y
[05:43] <octan> Hawkwind,  where is the pkg?
[05:43] <Hawkwind> dhq: Not suggested.  You should just upgrade to Edgy if you want 7.1.  Putting it on Dapper will probably break most everything
[05:44] <octan> !googleearth
[05:44] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[05:44] <octan> !googleearth.deb
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about googleearth.deb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <dhq> Hawkwind: well let me see ;if i back up my system and try it i guess there wont be much harm done
[05:44] <Hawkwind> octan: There might not be, but I thought there was
[05:45] <octan> can you extract the bin for me pls?
[05:45] <Hawkwind> octan: Umm there is
[05:45] <Hawkwind> octan: apt-cache search googleearth shows it
[05:45] <Mochito> #debian
[05:45] <octan> not here
[05:45] <octan> Hawkwind, im missing a repo
[05:45] <octan> Hawkwind, which one is it in?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> googleearth | 4.0.1693-1plf3 | http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Packages
[05:46] <Hawkwind> googleearth | 4.0.1693-1plf3 | http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Sources
[05:46] <octan> alright
[05:46] <Hawkwind> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[05:46] <Hawkwind> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[05:47] <Hawkwind> octan: ^^^^^^^^
[05:47] <Hawkwind> octan: Add those to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <octan> im doing it now
[05:47] <octan> :)
[05:47] <JacksLivr> if i need to compile software and gc is not installed. do i need to just install gcc or install a suite like dev-tools or somehting
[05:48] <dhq> Hawkwind: i will wait for those 20 days to try xorg 7.1
[05:49] <Hawkwind> dhq: What is in 7.1 that you want so bad ?
[05:49] <padla> Hi, I'd like to know if I can install transcode and cinelerra on kubuntu...
[05:49] <Sphere> hi
[05:49] <octan> Hawkwind, what do you name them?
[05:49] <octan> main?
[05:49] <Sphere> how do i install KDE on xubuntu?
[05:50] <Hawkwind> octan: Name them ?
[05:50] <Mortice> Sphere: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <octan> i get error with deb http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Sources
[05:50] <JacksLivr> if i need to compile software and gcc is not installed. do i need to just install gcc or install a suite like dev-tools or somehting
[05:50] <MetaMorfoziS> JacksLivr: build-essential
[05:50] <Sphere> Mortice: i read that you should type aptitude? whats the diference?
[05:50] <Mortice> JacksLivr: easiest way is apt-get install build-essential
[05:50] <JacksLivr> apt-get install gcc
[05:50] <octan> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free main-amd64 ??
[05:50] <intelikey> Sphere or  sudo apt-get install kde
[05:50] <JacksLivr> oh thats all
[05:50] <Mortice> Sphere: not an awful lot. the backend is the same.
[05:51] <Sphere> Mortice: tested aptitude and is seemd to work but i cant fins KDE anywhere...
[05:51] <octan> Hawkwind, ??
[05:51] <Mortice> sphere: in your sessions list in GDM?
[05:51] <Hawkwind> octan: Are you using 64Bit ?
[05:51] <octan> yes
[05:51] <Hawkwind> octan: Those are the lines directly from my sources.list
[05:51] <Sphere> Mortice: im a linux n00b ..
[05:51] <DaSkreech> dhq You >can< install edgy without it being out
[05:51] <intelikey> Mortice xdm
[05:51] <Hawkwind> octan: I don't know if it's available for 64Bit
[05:51] <Mortice> intelikey: right you are. >.<
[05:52] <JacksLivr> MetaMorfoziS, Mortice: thanks, doing that now
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Why isn't there more interest in WorldWind?
[05:52] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[05:52] <Mortice> Sphere: when you get to the login screen, you should have an option to choose the "session type"
[05:52] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:52] <Sphere> Mortice: i typed dpkg-reconfigure kde/gnm/kfc without success
[05:52] <dhq> DaSkreech: how
[05:52] <Sphere> Mortice: KDE is not under session type..
[05:52] <Sphere> so ill gues it didnt work
[05:52] <DaSkreech> in your sources.list change where it says dapper to edgy and save
[05:53] <DaSkreech>  the nsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:53] <dhq> Hawkwind: DaSkreech what does knot 2 mean
[05:53] <Mortice> Sphere: so you did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and kde doesn't appear in your sessions list? odd.
[05:53] <Mortice> Sphere: were there any errors?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> second stable release of edgy
[05:53] <octan> Hawkwind, ok lets check.. im downloading and installing it now :)
[05:53] <Sphere> is there anything else you have to do? i just typed "sudo aptidute
[05:53] <Hawkwind> Second release candidate of Edgy.
[05:53] <Hawkwind> Not stable
[05:53] <Sphere> "sudo aptitude install kde-desktop"
[05:53] <DaSkreech> It was a release candidate?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Of course
[05:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Stable would mean a final product
[05:54] <Mortice> Sphere: use the kubuntu-desktop package.
[05:54] <intelikey> Sphere no not kde-desktop   just kde
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: No it doesn't :-P release candidate means final product :-P
[05:54] <TheGateKeeper> what's the release date for edge?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[05:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Not even remotely close
[05:54] <dhq> DaSkreech: did you try edgy
[05:54] <DaSkreech> oct 26 I think
[05:54] <Sphere> so i should just type "aptitude install kde"?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> dhq:  Yes
[05:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: You have RC, beta, then final
[05:54] <Mortice> intelikey: why are you suggesting kde over kubuntu-desktop?
[05:55] <intelikey> Sphere that's what i'd sujest
[05:55] <dhq> DaSkreech: howz it
[05:55] <DaSkreech> dhq Pretty :-)
[05:55] <Sphere> =)
[05:55] <intelikey> Mortice cause Sphere didn't ask for all the packages that kubuntu installs just the full kde
[05:55] <Sphere> ill try that
[05:55] <dhq> DaSkreech: and how much time will it take me to upgrade to it i am on a 256kbps
[05:55] <Mortice> intelikey: fair enough.
[05:55] <Sphere> btw is there any way to scan a disc for errors in ubuntu?
[05:55] <octan> Hawkwind, :D Thank you very very much :)
[05:56] <octan> you repo worked :)
[05:56] <Mortice> Sphere: fsck
[05:56] <Sphere> sudo fsck hda1 for example?
[05:56] <Hawkwind> octan: Kewl
[05:56] <Mortice> Sphere: sudo fsck /dev/hda1 for example :)
[05:56] <intelikey> Sphere remount it read only then run fsck on it.   or if you mean phisical error testing  badblocks it the app
[05:57] <abionnnn> Is there any way to run XFIG in Kubuntu?
[05:57] <Mortice> Sphere: but yea, don't run it while mounted. it should get checked each boot anyway
[05:57] <Sphere> Mortice: okey...
[05:57] <Sphere> badblocks is that included in ubuntu?
[05:57] <intelikey> yep
[05:57] <Sphere> where do i find it?
[05:57] <intelikey> which badblocks
[05:58] <intelikey> type that in a terminal ^
[05:58] <Sphere> btw can you unmount the system disc?
[05:58] <intelikey> no you have to remount,ro
[05:58] <intelikey> sudo mount -o remount,ro /
[05:58] <DaSkreech> dhq: soonere than it would take to compile x.org 7.1
[05:59] <DaSkreech> abionnnn: XFIG?
[05:59] <dhq> ok
[05:59] <abionnnn> DaSkreech: somewhat popular figure editor which uses Xaw3d widgets
[06:00] <TheGateKeeper> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3/Kubuntu <-- doesn't say which version of kde
[06:00] <intelikey> Sphere also you should be advised that any command that requires "sudo" (root privilages)  you should read at least the description for the command in the manuals       man man  &&  man intor
[06:01] <intelikey> that is.    man man  &&  man intor    for information on how to use the man pages.
[06:01] <Sphere> thanks for all the help guys...!
[06:02] <intelikey> errrr man intro
[06:02] <luis_lopez> quick question: is swapd enabled by default in Egdy? How's the swap management done in this version?
[06:02] <intelikey> transpositional typist....
[06:07] <intelikey> Mortice also concerning why i was sujesting kde over kubuntu-desktop,  the subject in question started with xubuntu; which would normally indicate either a sense of curiosity, or a minimalistic attatude.  in either case i try to point toword what they specificly ask about.  even if i think that something else is better.   (not that you really wanted a full explanation)  :)
[06:07] <Mortice> heh. perfectly fair enough :)
[06:09] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:10] <DaSkreech> hi
[06:10] <frojnd> can someone help me youtube and simillar pages make them work
[06:11] <DaSkreech> simialr pages?
[06:11] <frojnd> I can't find proper plug-ins..
[06:11] <DaSkreech> !flash
[06:11] <frojnd> youtube metacafe..
[06:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:11] <DaSkreech> read that :)
[06:11] <frojnd> k
[06:11] <frojnd> :>
[06:11] <kumsy> !packages
[06:11] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:11] <kumsy> !adept
[06:11] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:12] <intelikey> !repos
[06:12] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:12] <intelikey> might as well round it out  :)
[06:20] <intelikey> commands can be strung togather in several ways on the command line.    1.   command-1 ; command-2    is the same as typing them one at a time. the simi-colen is the same as the [enter]  key.   2. command-1 & command-2    both will start togather with command-1 running in the background.  it's abount like running command-1 and hitting ^Z  [ctrl+Z]   then running command-2
[06:21] <th0rben> hi, can anyone familiar with the graphical installer of 6.06 please PM me?
[06:21] <intelikey> 3. command-1 && command-2      command-2 runs only if command-1 finishes without error.
[06:21] <intelikey> 4. command-1 || command-2       command-2 runs only if command-1 errors out.
[06:22] <th0rben> the issue is, i am going to install kubuntu on some unused partitions, but i can't seem to change the mountpoints of those partitions, and atm they are set quite wrong
[06:23] <intelikey> th0rben the live CD ?
[06:24] <th0rben> intelikey: yes, i think so.
[06:24] <intelikey> step 5 ?
[06:24] <th0rben> intelikey: yes
[06:24] <intelikey> clicking on the mountpoint doesn't allow for changing it ?
[06:25] <sarah> hi
[06:25] <th0rben> intelikey: no, can only view infos
[06:26] <th0rben> intelikey: but i can format, but i can't change the mountpoint there
[06:26] <th0rben> and i can only format as ext2...
[06:27] <th0rben> i mounted a partition manually before, is that any help? i forgot to unmount it until the installer reminded me, that i should be sure.
[06:27] <th0rben> to have nothing mounted
[06:29] <intelikey> if i remember correctly.  you should be looking at a page that has lines with     mountpoint-box   device-identification   format-type   []  format y-n       and one line per partition.  is that what you are looking at ?
[06:31] <intelikey> last step befor installation.       that's where you confirm everything about the disk/partitions     not the first page about the partitions.     the second one.     that's where you can set the mountpoints
[06:31] <th0rben> intelikey: so i would set the mountpoints at step 6
[06:31] <th0rben> ?
[06:31] <intelikey> th0rben it's not my turn to start lying to you now.
[06:32] <intelikey> ask someone that is sure about the step number.
[06:32] <intelikey> simply put.   i don't know.
[06:32] <th0rben> intelikey: at the previous step i chose to partition manually.
[06:32] <intelikey> i thought is was step 5  maybe 6 idk
[06:33] <intelikey> it asks if it's all correct.
[06:33] <th0rben> intelikey: i dared :-)
[06:34] <intelikey> and for the record.    i hate the installer on the live CD with a purple passion
[06:34] <th0rben> intelikey: step 5 contained some substeps...
[06:34] <mikki> how do i install screen driver for my radeon 9550
[06:34] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: if you are using the liveCD then you should be able to select manual partitioning then you can select where to mount
[06:34] <intelikey> !ati > mikki
[06:34] <th0rben> intelikey: will i get kicked if i say that i prefere gentoo anyway?
[06:34] <intelikey> not by me    lol
[06:35] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: ok I am curious, why does (k)ubuntu interest you?
[06:36] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: I am interested in my father being capable to do some administration stuff himself :-) and i know that (k)ubuntu would be the best choice there
[06:37] <StrahlungAlpha2> whoops. didn't mean to join this channel (even this server) but since i obviously did: Hi there :)
[06:37] <intelikey> StrahlungAlpha2 it's ok you didn't  :)
[06:37] <sarah> re
[06:38] <StrahlungAlpha2> id did not?
[06:38] <StrahlungAlpha2> now this is confusing
[06:38] <cpk2> th0rben: you set the partitions, you set the mount points and then it tells you how you have it configured and says "install" if you dont like the coniguration go back
[06:38] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: seems like a reasonable choice to me, gentoo is great but I can't leave pc running at night, which presents a bit of a problem with big emerges
[06:39] <intelikey> your irc client joined the server and channel.... you didn't   :)
[06:39] <sarah> Question:  I added this line to  /etc/fstab
[06:39] <sarah> /dev/hda3 /home/foo/bar vfat defaults,uid=0,gid=0,umask=002 0 0
[06:39] <sarah> when I want to write data to this directory, I get this error:
[06:40] <sarah> bash: test.txt: Permission denied
[06:40] <sarah> so I cannot write the directory as user
[06:40] <sarah> how can I make it writeable for me being a user?
[06:40] <intelikey> sarah you are not in the root group
[06:40] <TheGateKeeper> (k)ubuntu is easy to install, installing software is easy to with apt-get/synaptic/adept
[06:40] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: i only leave my pc running overnight when i emerge something like kde... but they have binaries for kde now, too
[06:40] <sarah> intelikey: sure?   sudo  works for me
[06:40] <intelikey> sarah set the uid to your uid  not root
[06:40] <mikki> how do i know if i got dapper og breezy ...?
[06:41] <sarah> intelikey: thank you
[06:41] <sarah> mine is 1000
[06:41] <sarah> thank you
[06:41] <intelikey> sarah sudo works because you are in the 'admin' group  not 'root' group
[06:41] <sarah> need to restart to see if it works
[06:41] <intelikey> and she didn't need to restart either.....
[06:41] <abattoir> mikki: 'lsb_release -a'
[06:42] <cpk2> intelikey: windows syndrome i guess
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: where? I installed kororaa after trashing my system trying to move it to testing because I could not face repeating all the stuff I had done
[06:42] <intelikey> yeah
[06:42] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: emerge kde-bin did the trick iirc
[06:43] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: thanx :-)
[06:43] <intelikey> mikki on the rare case where lsb-release is not installed you could    grep dapper /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null && echo dapper || echo other
[06:43] <mikki> what ?
[06:44] <intelikey> long answer to your question
[06:44] <StrahlungAlpha2> intelikey- isn't it regardless who did? i am here now
[06:44] <mikki> im trying to install ati driver: sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[06:44] <azzco> Hi I'm using ktorrent and I've downloaded an ISO... however I've created a new map and would like to have my downloaded ISO's in that map... however I would also liike to continue seeding the ones I've downloaded... how do I change shortcuts to the ISO's?
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: btw if the livecd is giving you greif use the alternative cd, it's got a text installer & I think it will give you a little more control
[06:44] <mikki> but that dosnt work
[06:45] <intelikey> StrahlungAlpha2 yeah  but you said "<StrahlungAlpha2> whoops. didn't mean to join this channel..."
[06:45] <grizzly> is kubuntu's network/ethernet a lil screwed up?
[06:45] <cpk2> does apt-get ever install stuff into the home dir?
[06:45] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: doesn't the live cd have a text installer hidden somewhere, too?
[06:45] <StrahlungAlpha2> why, then i was wrong
[06:45] <StrahlungAlpha2> curse u konversation
[06:45] <joscha> cpk2: no, but it could
[06:46] <intelikey> cpk2 i don't think it will by default.
[06:46] <grizzly> cpk2: only the config files /home/user/.someconffile afaik
[06:46] <intelikey> grizzly apt doesn't do that does it ?
[06:46] <intelikey> that would be the app it's self
[06:46] <joscha> the conf files will be generated during the first start of the application
[06:46] <intelikey> when first ran
[06:46] <joscha> not by apt
[06:47] <cpk2> ok just wondering if i would mess it up by running apt-get from root@localhost
[06:47] <intelikey> ditto joscha
[06:47] <ssddr> hey , i need help
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: no just the gui one
[06:47] <joscha> you could write an .deb archive which will install things in Homedirectorys... but nobody will do something stupid like that
[06:47] <ssddr> when i run apt-get
[06:48] <ssddr> this happends:
[06:48] <joscha> at least nobody working @debian, ubuntu,....
[06:48] <intelikey> cpk2 that's what sudo does.
[06:48] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: right. but my father is looking over my shoulder, so i thought the gui installer would be a bit more 'understandable'
[06:48] <grizzly> ok suggest me an alternative to kcontrol for managin /diagnosing ethernet plz command line/gui
[06:49] <intelikey> joscha that's not so stupid if you build packages that users can install locally without root privilages
[06:49] <Dannioni> Hi, i want to log in as root (in kde), how do i do?
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: by all means use it if you can get it to do what you want it to do, only suggested the other one if it was giving you problems
[06:49] <intelikey> managing grizzly ifconfig
[06:49] <joscha> intelikey: sure, but for this there are parameters you can pass to dpkg
[06:50] <intelikey> right.  and they could be added to the preinstall scripts
[06:50] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: like I said if you choose manual partitioning you should be able to set it up the way you want it, but the partitioner can be a little tempremental if you are not carefull with it
[06:50] <intelikey> but i think apt would still need uid=0 to first dl the package
[06:51] <joscha> i meant it would be stupid to install a package by default in the user-dir
[06:51] <intelikey> agreed
[06:51] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: I noticed... i had to confirm every small step i did
[06:52] <Dannioni> Do anyone know how to do to log in as root in kde?
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> th0rben: make sure that free space is selected before creating a partition or it will get it's knickers in a twist
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> Dannioni: kdesu <application>
[06:53] <th0rben> TheGateKeeper: well it's too late now anyway...
[06:53] <intelikey> "<TheGateKeeper> th0rben: like I said if you choose manual partitioning you should be able to set it up the way you want it,"  <--- now that is absolutely true.  unfortunately it's not the case with the live CD installer.     i want to install on /dev/sda  but the installer on the live cd will not install there.  it demands a partition.   totally inflexable about it too
[06:54] <cpk2> i couldnt even get the live cd to let me manually partition my sda, doesnt seem to like my sata
[06:54] <th0rben> intelikey: everyone knows that you are not THAT flexible with guis
[06:54] <frojnd> hello, how can I search for all .avi files on my kubuntu?
[06:55] <dek> Krusader doesn't save settings on exit (always starts in the same dir) even though the option in settings is enabled. Using Edgy and latest Krusader. Any idea what could be wrong?
[06:55] <intelikey> th0rben i've used linux installers that allow that
[06:55] <intelikey> mandrake for one.
[06:55] <intelikey> slackware was a little more involved but worked.
[06:55] <th0rben> intelikey: the amount of gui installers is only a subset of the amount of linux installers
[06:56] <nixternal> somebody who is running dapper type at the command line         cat /etc/usplash.conf
[06:56] <nixternal> tell me if you get results pleast
[06:56] <intelikey> yeah  but the live CD doesn't even allow for a non-gui install
[06:56] <nixternal> please. thank you ;)
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> intelikey: the livecd installer does seem a bit tempremental
[06:56] <th0rben> intelikey: do you happen to know why that is?
[06:57] <intelikey> th0rben no.
[06:57] <joscha> cat: /etc/usplash.conf: No such file or directory
[06:57] <intelikey> th0rben space issues i assume.
[06:57] <nixternal> thank you ;)
[06:58] <th0rben> intelikey: why on earth does a whois reveal, that you are logged in as root i wonder
[06:58] <intelikey> nixternal i don't have usplash installed so it would be superflutious for me to issue that command.
[06:59] <th0rben> ok, want to reboot now...
[06:59] <intelikey> th0rben cause if you use the *buntu (root jr.)  sudo method  and your whois info is true  then when you login as your user you have affectively loged in to irc as root for all practical purposes.
[07:00] <th0rben> intelikey: i accept this as an explanation, but only because i don't understand all of it...
[07:00] <intelikey> that is to say.  if you reviel the name of your admin account (root jr.)  you open the door for attack
[07:01] <intelikey> so let them try to crack the root account.   and let them have fun trying....
[07:01] <intelikey> :)
[07:01] <intelikey> i'm not root. btw.
[07:01] <tristanmike> lol
[07:02] <Dannioni> sure ? :p
[07:02] <ziabice> re all
[07:02] <intelikey> Dannioni i'm not root.   im  "init"
[07:03] <intelikey> or in edgy terms.  im  "upstart"   :)
[07:03] <Sphere> hi again.. managed to get kde under xubuntu but now i cant change the resolution
[07:04] <MotorCityMadMan> !camera
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <Sphere> right click on the desktop - configure desktop......... but there is no option to change resolution... what do i do now?
[07:04] <MotorCityMadMan> !picture
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about picture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <intelikey> Sphere how are you trying to change the rez.... oh.   it's  in kcontrol     i think
[07:05] <intelikey> in the Kmenu Sphere
[07:06] <Sphere> not thete either
[07:06] <Sphere> was no problem under kubuntu but kde on xubunto .... no option there
[07:08] <Dannioni> Is there any kind of linux Wiki??
[07:08] <CVirus> Dannioni: every distribution has its very own wiki
[07:08] <CVirus> !wiki
[07:08] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:08] <Sphere> intelikey: any ide?
[07:08] <CVirus> Dannioni: ^
[07:09] <Dannioni> Aha, then i'll check that one, i'm quite new to linux, so some questions my
[07:09] <Dannioni> *may seem stupid to you :p
[07:09] <intelikey> Sphere it was there when i had 'kde' installed here.....
[07:10] <CVirus> Dannioni: its okay
[07:10] <Dannioni> Thanks!
[07:10] <Sphere> intelikey: yes it was there when i ran pure kubunto too but not with KDE over xubuntu
[07:11] <intelikey> Sphere an alternative would be to adjust the fonts size all up/down-ward to make the thing more like the rez setting you want
[07:11] <intelikey> Sphere but i didn't have kubuntu i had kde   just like you installed it.
[07:11] <intelikey> it is there somewhere.  look again.
[07:12] <intelikey> system > something
[07:12] <michael> For anyone following yesterday, newly installed 6.06 using apt-get install nvidia-glx, then changing xorg.conf to say "nvidia" under drivers works perfect.
[07:12] <intelikey> Sphere also the kmenu is not all visable by default.  you may need to configure the menu first.
[07:12] <Sphere> intelikey: how do i do that?
[07:13] <intelikey> right click on it
[07:13] <gemidjy> http://i12.tinypic.com/3yhzpjo.png why the Local printer checkbox is disabled ?
[07:14] <intelikey> or run kcontrol
[07:14] <intelikey> kcontrol
[07:14] <intelikey> kcontrol
[07:14] <intelikey> kcontrol
[07:14] <intelikey> gemidjy not @ you.
[07:14] <Sphere> seems to be loatds of errors when i typed that in the console
[07:15] <Sphere> oh wrong console..
[07:15] <Sphere> when i type kcontrol now.. the controlpanels opens but still no dispay option
[07:16] <FreeBugs> help, how to fix this? http://tinyurl.com/cx7h8,
[07:17] <intelikey> root@localhost/~# urpmi kde
[07:17] <intelikey> Need to get 445kB/182MB of archives
[07:17] <intelikey> installing.
[07:18] <CVirus> FreeBugs: you are officially a gay
[07:18] <abattoir> !ops
[07:18] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[07:18] <abattoir> FreeBugs seems to be a tor
[07:18] <gnomefreak> abattoir: ?
[07:18] <abattoir> gnomefreak: FreeBugs
[07:18] <imbrandon> yes ?
[07:19] <abattoir> FreeBugs is i=dav@gateway/tor/x-6ef31713bf683734 (vda)
[07:19] <abattoir> and the link is shady
[07:19] <gnomefreak> abattoir: it was a shady link at best im not so sure tor is redirected in here
[07:20] <drbeams> i want to run windows xp in a vmplayer session on my pc.  is this possilble?  is there a *.vmx for windows xp ?
[07:22] <Sanne_> drbeams: you can create yourself a vmx at http://www.easyvmx.com/
[07:23] <kulbir> how to do i extract .deb file?
[07:24] <zorglu_> q. i would like to save the output of my webcam on disk, i got the webcam running, just looking at a software to save it on disk. any suggestion ?
[07:24] <Sanne_> drbeams: you might also want to look at some of those: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmware&titlesearch=Titles
[07:25] <drbeams> zorglu_: vlc
[07:25] <zorglu_> drbeams: well i fail to save any video with it. i dunno which encoder is supported. all i tried failed
[07:25] <zorglu_> drbeams: i even asked on #videolan and they didnt answer
[07:26] <zorglu_> drbeams: any suggestion on how can i know the supported encoder by my vlc ?
[07:26] <intelikey> now i'm reminded why i removed kde....
[07:26] <intelikey> oh well!
[07:27] <zorglu_> drbeams: ?
[07:27] <Sanne_> kulbir: right click on deb/extract, or from the cli: ar -x name-of-deb
[07:28] <intelikey> tar ^
[07:28] <zorglu_> so any suggestion on how to save the output of a webcam on disk ?
[07:29] <zorglu_> ok will retry tomorrow :)
[07:30] <intelikey> zorglu_ one could cat the device to a file but that's not what you want.
[07:30] <zorglu_> \indeed :)
[07:31] <zorglu_> in fact i just want to window with my face in it
[07:31] <zorglu_> and a file containing the stuff
[07:31] <zorglu_> very nice tool for blog
[07:31] <zorglu_> oh maybe #kde could help
[07:32] <intelikey> maybe
[07:32] <intelikey> or ##linux
[07:32] <intelikey> or ##linuxhelp
[07:32] <zorglu_> never went there, are they helpfull ?
[07:32] <intelikey> or #ubuntu  even
[07:32] <intelikey> at times very.
[07:33] <intelikey> at times you might walk in to a dogma fight....
[07:33] <zorglu_> oh cool will try then :)
[07:33] <intelikey> if it's really busy just watch for a minute and see what's up
[07:34] <drbeams> zorglu_: sorry, lunch.  lemme check
[07:34] <jpiccolo> how would i update from the command line?
[07:34] <drbeams> zorglu_: ur trying to run live video in a blog window ?
[07:35] <THY733T> Hi,i want to add some scripts to mount/umount network shares on suspend/hibernate.Where do i add the script?I use Kubuntu Dapper
[07:35] <zorglu_> drbeams: well this is the end destination of my stuff. but in practice i just want a simple tool i could launch, and have the webcam stram saved on disk
[07:36] <intelikey> jpiccolo update what ?   the system ?
[07:36] <zorglu_> drbeams: i was using vlc for that before, but i was using xvid+mp3 encoder and they no more work
[07:36] <the_imax> hi can some one paste me a clean source.list?
[07:36] <drbeams> open capture device on "file"
[07:36] <zorglu_> drbeams: so i look for alternative. #videolan being dead or unhelpfull at the moment
[07:36] <jpiccolo> update a ubuntu server
[07:36] <intelikey> jpiccolo "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade "
[07:37] <jpiccolo> ok apt-get dist-upgrade will list the updates available?
[07:37] <zorglu_> drbeams: what do you mean ? in the menu ? if i do 'open capture device' it show me the video but dont save on disk
[07:37] <intelikey> it will ask for confirmation on all the updates at one time.
[07:37] <intelikey> yes listing them
[07:38] <drbeams> zorglu_: stream output to a file
[07:38] <drbeams> you might be interested in a project i have been working on
[07:39] <zorglu_> drbeams: oh ok i found it, thanks
[07:39] <drbeams> i am working at embeding video/chat/and audio in a web page
[07:39] <zorglu_> drbeams: the choise of encoder is 'wrong' tho :) but i got a list of them :)
[07:39] <zorglu_> drbeams: just have to try them all :)
[07:39] <drbeams> hope to post a project to sf soon
[07:40] <zorglu_> cool :)
[07:40] <drbeams> i am looking for devs
[07:40] <jpiccolo> intelikey, thanks
[07:40] <arunkale> for some reason frostwire just wont open for me
[07:40] <intelikey> np
[07:40] <drbeams> iirc mpv4 is the better quality
[07:41] <arunkale> it does the whole loading bouncy ball thingy and then nothing
[07:41] <intelikey> question.  is there a way to passively cat something ?
[07:41] <drbeams> there are some comprehensive tutorials out there explaining the codecs and how they can be used
[07:41] <drbeams> intelikey: pet it
[07:42] <drbeams> intelikey: it will purrrrr
[07:42] <drbeams> :-)
[07:43] <insanekane> intelikey: passively cat ?
[07:43] <amaiko>  hello every body
[07:44] <amaiko> anyOne here have Some Links about python language
[07:44] <insanekane> amaiko: python.org :)
[07:44] <intelikey> drbeams like this.  login tty1 & tty2  then in tty2 do  cat /dev/tty1     and in tty1 what ever you type is put on tty2  but it makes insurection(a hostile takeover) on tty1 leaving it useless.     is there a way to grab the data without taking over
[07:44] <insanekane> amaiko: you installed kubuntu ? if so, it comes with Dive into Python ... look in Help
[07:44] <zorglu_> maouaoua video on linux is such a pain :)
[07:44] <amaiko> thanks
[07:45] <intelikey> insanekane ^
[07:45] <amaiko> i installed ubuntu
[07:45] <amaiko> then i installed KDE
[07:46] <insanekane> amaiko: hmm ... well, look K->Help->Scrollkeeper->Development->Dive into Python
[07:46] <insanekane> intelikey: no idea man
[07:46] <intelikey> k
[07:46] <insanekane> intelikey: maybe you should use a named pipe or something
[07:47] <intelikey> yeah or a vc even
[07:47] <amaiko> okay man Thx
[07:48] <zorglu_> drbeams: ok i tried the mp4 and it passed !!!!
[07:48] <zorglu_> wow i can even read the file with other players
[07:48] <Sanne_> amaiko: I found those two extremely helpful: http://swaroopch.info/text/Byte_of_Python:Main_Page and Python Quick Reference at http://rgruet.free.fr/
[07:49] <insanekane> yes Byte of Python is cool :)
[07:50] <Sanne_> :)
[07:50] <amaiko> is The python easy
[07:50] <insanekane> of course, i didnt need either to learn Python ... just used Guido's tutorial on python.org
[07:50] <insanekane> amaiko: python is dead easy :)
[07:51] <intelikey> konsolekalendar <--kan we get any more k'ish in our konversation ?   :)
[07:51] <amaiko> thank you all
[07:51] <amaiko> u r kind pple :d
[07:51] <intelikey> urqw
[07:51] <amaiko> this is my frist time on this chat
[07:51] <luis_lopez> Hi everyone. Quick question: is swap disabled by default in Edgy?
[07:52] <intelikey> luis_lopez enabled by default
[07:52] <intelikey> on all linux distros i've ever seen
[07:53] <Sanne_> amaiko: you're welcome :)
[07:53] <THY733T> Someone help me?
[07:54] <zorglu_> [00000334]  ffmpeg encoder error: cannot find encoder MPEG Audio layer 1/2/3 <- it is from vlc, any idea on how to fix it ?
[07:56] <zorglu_> !restricted
[07:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:57] <Flarp> zorglu_: did you encode the audio layer as well ?
[07:57] <zorglu_> Flarp: yep i try to do the audio and video
[07:58] <intelikey> drbeams you sure you got the right nick ?
[07:58] <zorglu_> i tried with mp4 but the result is quite crappy
[07:58] <zorglu_> much worst that the one i got with div3+mp3
[07:59] <intelikey> well i'm going to go start a gui.   haven't seen one in a few days....   later chan
[08:01] <phummer> This seems like a really dumb question, but God bless Linux distros that do everything for you...  I'm a Debian user taking Kubuntu for a spin.  I put a typo in my /etc/sudoers on accident (meaning I can't sudo now), and the root password is not my user password.  What is it?
[08:02] <soulrider> err, does anyone know why i cant open a .midi file ?
[08:08] <sts9> Im having serious package issues with amule. is there somewhere I can post a few error mgs
[08:09] <arunkale> anyone for frostwire
[08:10] <Sanne_> sts9: paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:10] <sts9> what can I do about this error message when installing amule? :diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.xmule.1.gz by amule' clashes with `diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.xmule.1.gz by amule-utils'
[08:17] <holoton2> Any of you folks happen to know how to get QTVR 360 panoramas to work in kubuntu?
[08:28] <holoton2> anybody?
[08:28] <zorglu_> yep me too i want an answer :)
[08:28] <zorglu_> or the solution is a script using gstream via python :)
[08:29] <zorglu_> dont tell me linux is not easy :)
[08:29] <zorglu_> it is ok if you know python and are not afraid to code your own apps :)
[08:30] <zorglu_> or maybe i could find a vlc which work ok on ubuntu
[08:30] <zorglu_> !vlc
[08:30] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:30] <zorglu_> !info vlc
[08:30] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[08:30] <zorglu_> !info vlc plf
[08:31] <zorglu_> lc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats <- they mean 'without mp3' :)
[08:32] <method|> why do fonts in kubuntu suck so bad compared to PCLinuxOS
[08:33] <zorglu_> likely need to tune them
[08:33] <mikko> anyone has probles loging in to msn ?
[08:33] <method|> i have imported the same .fonts.conf from PCLOS and they still suck
[08:33] <method|> the same fonts look totally different
[08:33] <zorglu_> looked very bad before i did tune them
[08:33] <zorglu_> some dpkg reconfigure font
[08:34] <arunkale> methodj: i've got my fonts to render exactly like os x renders them
[08:34] <joscha> mikko: msn is broken...
[08:35] <method|> arunkale: how?
[08:35] <mikko> joscha how is it broken if my friends can log in ?
[08:37] <emonkey-u> does anybody know how i can delete the ext3 journal?
[08:37] <holoton2> mikko: what do you mean by "log into msn"?
[08:38] <holoton2> mikko: chat?
[08:38] <mikko> i mean whole msn service
[08:39] <mikko> here's my log
[08:39] <mikko> kopete (msn): WARNING: [void MSNSocket::slotSocketError(int)]  Error: 17 (remote host closed connection)
[08:39] <mikko> kio (KIOJob): TransferJob::slotRedirection(https://msnia.login.live.com/login2.srf?lc=1033)
[08:39] <mikko> :\
[08:39] <mikko> kopete (msn): WARNING: [void MSNSocket::slotSocketError(int)]  Error: 17 (remote host closed connection)
[08:39] <holoton2> does it work via GAIM?
[08:40] <mikko> nope, it says that ""Your MSN buddy list is temporarily unavailable""
[08:40] <zorglu_> mikko: the hotmail icon is ok from here
[08:40] <zorglu_> well msn has always been flacky
[08:41] <holoton2> mikko: I'm connected to msn right now via Gaim
[08:41] <zorglu_> i always had trouble with msn on gaim or kopete
[08:41] <tictric> hi, who can give me a hand with the current way of dapper to handle network configuration?
[08:41] <tictric> I can't quite get used to stumble over (as I believe) hal on so many places
[08:41] <mikko> i have tried aMsn too but it does same, can get connection
[08:42] <zorglu_> mikko: is this permanent ?
[08:42] <zorglu_> mikko: or just temporary as only today ?
[08:42] <tictric> in /etc/network/interfaces I have configured my eth0 as 192.168.1.20
[08:43] <mikko> worked last night
[08:43] <zorglu_> mikko: wait a bit, it could ismply be the server in your area. all seems ok from where i am
[08:43] <tictric> Still when I type ifconfig it says my ip was 169.254.199.73
[08:44] <zorglu_> tictric: sorry only did basic conf thru kcontrol
[08:44] <zorglu_> auto eth0
[08:44] <zorglu_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:44] <zorglu_> all my interface look like this
[08:45] <zorglu_> do you need static ip ?
[08:45] <tictric> zorglu_: Yes, I need that to keep my network working
[08:45] <zorglu_> have you tried thry kcontrol ?
[08:46] <fredo> ola
[08:46] <fredo> qe tal?
[08:46] <zorglu_> !es
[08:46] <tictric> but fact is that when I do a ping home it replies with my correct 192.168.1.20
[08:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:47] <tictric> fredo: porque no hablamos espanol aqui
[08:47] <zorglu_> tictric: and 'ip addr' shows which addr ? the one you want ?
[08:48] <tictric> zorglu_: No, it shows that ominous 169.254.199.73
[08:48] <tictric> I just don't know where this is being configured
[08:48] <zorglu_> hmm
[08:49] <zorglu_> ok do "ip addr" and put that in a pastebin
[08:49] <zorglu_> then do "ip route" and to that in another pastbin
[08:52] <intelikey> howto start kde from the console   (not *dm, and not startx)  ?
[08:52] <tictric> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25596/
[08:52] <zorglu_> 09.     inet 169.254.199.73/16 brd 169.254.255.255 scope link eth0
[08:52] <zorglu_> 10.     inet 192.168.1.20/16 brd 192.168.255.255 scope global eth0
[08:53] <zorglu_> seems ok from here
[08:53] <zorglu_> what make you think you got an issue
[08:53] <intelikey> nobody ?
[08:53] <tictric> zorglu_: where does that 169.blabla IP come from?
[08:53] <zorglu_> intelikey: nope, mine got started automatically :)
[08:53] <Hawkwind> /usr/bin/startkde ?
[08:54] <zorglu_> tictric: it is a automatic  ip allocation in case you got no dhcp or fix address. it is part of zeroconf
[08:54] <intelikey> Hawkwind X is running  and that doesn't take args like  --display :1  does it ?>
[08:54] <zorglu_> inet 169.254.168.30/16 brd 169.254.255.255 scope link eth0 <- tictric is mine
[08:54] <Hawkwind> intelikey: You can do startx /usr/bin/startkde -- :2
[08:55] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Not sure if you can leave off the startx part or not
[08:55] <intelikey> k  ty
[08:55] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Seems that starts KDE in the same X session
[08:56] <Hawkwind> I just tried it
[08:56] <intelikey> yeah i got an error
[08:56] <intelikey> Fatal server error:
[08:56] <intelikey> Server is already active for display :1
[08:56] <Hawkwind> Try :2
[08:57] <intelikey> nope doesn't seem to take.
[08:57] <intelikey> giving up.
[08:57] <intelikey> xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
[08:58] <intelikey> probably an suid issue there
[08:58] <intelikey> i need to connect to a running X
[08:58] <kyaneos> hi
[08:59] <intelikey> i think i can edit /usr/bin/startkde   maybe get it to accept the args
[09:00] <intelikey> it's a shell script
[09:00] <koboi> bonjour puis avoir le lien en fr ?
[09:01] <intelikey> !fr
[09:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:06] <main2> any questions remaining?
[09:07] <main2> No, good - then all be a happy kubu user.. and smile
[09:07] <frojnd> can someone help me with installing flashplayer
[09:07] <frojnd> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[09:07] <frojnd>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[09:07] <frojnd> :S
[09:07] <main2> frojnd: amd64?
[09:07] <frojnd> jep
[09:08] <oheard> !flash
[09:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <frojnd> wel..
[09:08] <frojnd> can I get smth more specific
[09:09] <zorglu_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106 <- frojnd may be of help
[09:09] <main2> frojnd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:09] <main2> ^^
[09:10] <zorglu_> the bot suggestions are way to broad. how can we add command/tag in it ?
[09:11] <johnsandman> I wanna a own bootsplash screen do someone know where I can get information about it?
[09:12] <zorglu_> !uplash
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <zorglu_> johnsandman: it is something called uplash, google for it
[09:12] <johnsandman> ok I will search for it :-) thanks
[09:13] <trappist> zorglu_: I promise it's really easy to say like /msg ubotu usplash.  you can even leave the query window open and just say 'usplash' there.
[09:14] <zorglu_> trappist: you already told me that yesterday. and i already told you i wont follow your advice as it make it a lot harder to help user
[09:14] <zorglu_> trappist: if you wanna discuss it, we can
[09:14] <trappist> zorglu_: I'm telling you it doesn't make it harder.  it does make it a little harder when the screen is full of ubotu saying "I don't know"
[09:15] <zorglu_> trappist: well i can easily proove the opposite, if you are willing to discuss it
[09:16] <trappist> zorglu_: /query ubotu.  then in that window, just say like "mp3" or something.  you can leave it open and ask him all you want, just as easily as saying !mp3 here.
[09:16] <zorglu_> trappist: you mean you are willing discuss it ?
[09:16] <zorglu_> trappist: ok lets go
[09:16] <trappist> zorglu_: I thought that's what we were doing.
[09:16] <xubuntu> is someone here to help me?
[09:17] <BonBonTheJon> what do you need help with
[09:17] <zorglu_> trappist: ok what you propose double the work. so it make it harder
[09:17] <zorglu_> trappist: it is my argument
[09:17] <xubuntu> I need help with konsole
[09:17] <trappist> say you get 3 tries wrong before getting it right.  that's 8 lines of scroll, which is 1/3 of my screen, which gets pretty noisy.
[09:17] <xubuntu> How can I browse to another folders with konsole?
[09:17] <zorglu_> trappist: can you explain how making the work 2 longer wont make it harder to help user ?
[09:18] <cpk2> xubuntu: cd /dir/dir/dir
[09:18] <trappist> zorglu_: and my argument is that it's no harder to switch windows and say "foo" than it is to say !foo... or not significantly harder, and certainly not twice as hard
[09:18] <xubuntu> thank you CPK2
[09:18] <zorglu_> trappist: i dont get it. so you say that making twice more work, dont make it harder to help user ?
[09:19] <trappist> zorglu_: it *does* make it harder for others to help the same person, because if I keep saying !try1 !try2 !try3 pretty soon his question isn't even on my screen anymore
[09:19] <trappist> zorglu_: you're not listening.  it's not twice the work.
[09:19] <zorglu_> trappist: i am listening
[09:19] <cpk2> trappist: how often does zorglu_ get it wrong when its someone asking how to get mp3's to work? I suppose !foo > randomuser might be better
[09:19] <cpk2> but maybe other people will see the link and read it
[09:20] <zorglu_> trappist: you said 'before using ubotu, test the command via private message'
[09:20] <cpk2> if it is across the whole channel
[09:20] <zorglu_> trappist: did i misundertood you ?
[09:20] <trappist> cpk2: what we're talking about is when you don't know whether what you're searching for is in the db.  I'm suggesting looking for it in pmsg before making lots of noice in the channel.
[09:21] <trappist> zorglu_: close, but not quite - when you don't know for sure that ubotu knows what you're talking about, and you might have to try 3 or 4 things before getting it right or giving up, do THAT in pmsg, and when you get it right, THEN say !whatever
[09:21] <cpk2> the bot is always going to make noise, I mean theres a !botsnack for goodness sakes
[09:21] <zorglu_> trappist: ok well i never know if the command will be there
[09:21] <trappist> !trythis
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trythis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <trappist> !trythat
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trythat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <trappist> !tryagain
[09:21] <trappist> !tryanother
[09:21] <zorglu_> trappist: sorry if i dont remember all the commands
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tryagain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tryanother - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <trappist> that's just noise, and it adds up quickly
[09:21] <zorglu_> trappist: so i try the command
[09:22] <zorglu_> trappist: you seems to think it is not a good idea
[09:22] <zorglu_> trappist: you suggest me to test privatly which increase a lot my work to help people
[09:22] <trappist> zorglu_: come on man.  I'm not asking a lot.  if you don't know, it's *polite* to try it out first before making a lot of unnecessary noise in the channel.
[09:22] <zorglu_> trappist: i am very polite on the channel
[09:23] <zorglu_> trappist: and 'come on man', i dont get your point
[09:23] <trappist> zorglu_: there's being polite to other people, and there's having good "netiquette", which includes trying not to cause unnecessary scroll in the channel.
[09:23] <trappist> it's similar
[09:23] <trappist> to doing
[09:23] <trappist> like
[09:23] <trappist> this
[09:23] <zorglu_> trappist: well i do have a good netiquete and i dont appreciate your suggesting otherwise
[09:24] <zorglu_> trappist: or come with proof or log or anything
[09:24] <trappist> zorglu_: I'm not suggesting you're trying to be rude.  but there are hundreds of users in the channel, and it's polite to try to avoid showing them all a lot of unnecessary noise.
[09:24] <arcasa> NOISE!
[09:24] <arcasa> FOR A PARTY?
[09:25] <zorglu_> trappist: please stop suggesting im impolite without coming with proof
[09:25] <zorglu_> trappist: ok we disagree. what do we do ?
[09:25] <arcasa> EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIIIIIIGHTTIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGGGG!
[09:25] <zorglu_> trappist: the code of conduct say 'we ask other people'
[09:25] <arcasa> We stip naked and play How Low Can You Go.
[09:25] <zorglu_> trappist: any suggestion ?
[09:25] <cpk2> you need to come up with something so that no one is happy
[09:25] <armando> Hi all.....
[09:25] <trappist> zorglu_: good call
[09:25] <cpk2> thats called compromise
[09:25] <armando> Someone can help me?
[09:25] <arcasa> How Low Can You Go?
[09:26] <arcasa> I broke 6 vertebrae last time. . .
[09:26] <zorglu_> trappist: the code of conduct say to be polite too :) so lets avoid insult each other, ok ?
[09:26] <arcasa> STFU N00BS?!
[09:26] <cpk2> armando: not until you describe your problem
[09:26] <arcasa> Is that polite?
[09:26] <trappist> zorglu_: on the other hand, I'm not suggesting it should be a rule, and I'm not suggesting it's rude.  I'm saying it would be better, and a polite gesture, to take the very small extra effort to cut down on the noise in the channel.
[09:27] <armando> i need to install some codec like Divx and MP3....
[09:27] <arcasa> Can anyone help with Sexual Frustration?
[09:27] <armando> but I'm experiencing some problem...
[09:27] <zorglu_> trappist: yep it is your opinion and i stated today and yesterday i disagree
[09:27] <zorglu_> trappist: and honnestly i dont get why you go so hard on this
[09:27] <segfault> armando, this is well documented on the ubuntu site under restricted formats
[09:27] <trappist> zorglu_: what part do you disagree with
[09:27] <arcasa> I'm on zorglu's side in this one. (He has a nicer arse.)
[09:27] <armando> ok... i will see
[09:27] <armando> tnx a lot
[09:27] <segfault> np
[09:28] <zorglu_> trappist: your suggestion doubles my work to help people, it make it harder to help them, so i disagree
[09:28] <trappist> disagree with what
[09:28] <arcasa> I OBJECT!
[09:28] <zorglu_> as i said we disagree
[09:28] <arcasa> *Wiggles finger*
[09:28] <trappist> ... about what?
[09:29] <trappist> zorglu_: you're choosing not to follow my suggestion, which is fine.  but what do you disagree with?
[09:29] <zorglu_> trappist: i dont want to follow your suggestion, you want me to, this is a disagreement
[09:29] <arcasa> I OBJECT!
[09:29] <zorglu_> trappist: ok so it is fine :)
[09:29] <arcasa> *Wiggles finger*
[09:29] <arcasa> OBJECTION! *Wiggles finger*
[09:30] <zorglu_> ok now about this bot, is there a way to add tag/command in it ?
[09:30] <arcasa> Yes.
[09:30] <arcasa> Ask nicely.
[09:30] <arcasa> With Grammar AND Spelling.
[09:31] <trappist> zorglu_: you can make a suggestion, and the ops will discuss it and maybe implement it
[09:31] <arcasa> I suggest Kopete is rebuilt from the ground up.
[09:31] <trappist> zorglu_: like, !usplash is some kind of thing.  see http://somesite.com/usplash
[09:31] <zorglu_> trappist: oh it is the ops which control the content of the bo ?
[09:31] <zorglu_> t
[09:31] <trappist> yes
[09:31] <Hawkwind> trappist: zorglu_: Mind taking this discussion somewhere like -OffTopic please
[09:31] <trappist> Hawkwind: we're finished
[09:32] <trappist> and yeah, sorry
[09:32] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Yes, most of us who are ops have access to change bot entries as well
[09:32] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: well this make the process to add stuff quite long :)
[09:32] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Not really
[09:32] <zorglu_> is there a description somewhere of the policy applied for the keyword in the bot ?
[09:33] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: You can add your fact, and it gets put into the ops channel so all of us see it, then we can approve it and add it if we find it helpful or good enough
[09:33] <arcasa> Can I be a ops?
[09:33] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: You can also pm me at any time with whatever and when I see it, I'll let you know one way or the other if I add it
[09:33] <Hawkwind> !ubuto
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <Hawkwind> Heh
[09:34] <Hawkwind> !bot > zorglu_
[09:34] <arcasa> !bot > kiss ma ass!
[09:34] <zorglu_> i mean something i could read before going thru the process of persuading the ops of its 'goodness'
[09:34] <zorglu_> ok reading it
[09:34] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: I'm here all the time so feel free to pm me anything you want added
[09:34] <Hawkwind> arcasa: Please don't play with the bot :)
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:34]  <ubotu> Error: That person could not be found in any channel you're in
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:34]  <arcasa> HI!
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:34]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HI! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:34]  <arcasa> Boobs!
[09:34] <arcasa> [20:35]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Boobs! - try searching on http://bots
[09:35] <arcasa> He knows nothing anyway.
[09:35] <Hawkwind> arcasa: Please, no need to paste like that to channel.  Use pastebin please the next time
[09:36] <arcasa> How do I change my name?
[09:36] <arcasa> !Hawkwind how do I change my name?
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Hawkwind how do I change my name? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <Hawkwind> arcasa: /nick new-nick-here
[09:37] <Arcasa> Awesome!
[09:37] <shmlar> question: anyone familiar w/ setting up postfix?
[09:37] <Arcasa> Capital letters make my day!
[09:37] <shmlar> poooostfix anyoneeeee?
[09:38] <trappist> shmlar: you might have better luck with something like this: I was trying to set up postfix, and when I did X, Y happened.  what went wrong?
[09:38] <shmlar> lol. how about.. we have postfix set up, but are having problems recieving mail from Outlook on an XP box..
[09:39] <danbuntu> how do I enable compoisting on the nvidia driver? I'm trying to gewt beryl to work
[09:40] <Hawkwind> danbuntu: Might talk to the guys in #Ubuntu-XGL as they are experts
[09:40] <danbuntu> ah cool I'll give them a go
[09:40] <intelikey> kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.
[09:40] <intelikey> Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
[09:40] <Arcasa> How do I update my KDE version?
[09:41] <intelikey> can i manually export that veriable ?
[09:41] <johannes> Hello: Q: Does someone know how to install and configure "Kontact". I can't find Kmail, Kadressbook and so on in it...
[09:41] <intelikey> something like export DISPLAY="0:0"    ???
[09:42] <frojnd> can someone help me with installing firefox32 at the point (5) when I try to Create the execution files for 32 bit firefox it says: bash: gksudo: command not found. Can someone help me with that?
[09:42] <frojnd> link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:43] <zorglu_> frojnd: "gksudo gedit /usr/local/bin/firefox32" should be replaced by "kdesu kate /usr/local/bin/firefox32"
[09:43] <zorglu_> frojnd: it is ubuntu tutoral and kubuntu has a bit different apps installed
[09:43] <frojnd> aha
[09:43] <trappist> shift: receiving mail *from* outlook, like outlook is sending the mail?  and it doesn't arrive?
[09:44] <intelikey> is it safe to do something like    export DISPLAY="0:0"    or would that even be proper syntax ?    maybe   export DISPLAY="-:0"   ?  anyone
[09:45] <trappist> intelikey: export DISPLAY=:0
[09:45] <trappist> intelikey: or :0
[09:46] <intelikey> trappist that doesn't comprimize the tty ?
[09:46] <trappist> intelikey: no, just tells what display to send gui goodness to
[09:47] <intelikey> trappist ty
[09:47] <trappist> intelikey: like, if I ssh to your box and set DISPLAY=:0 you'll see any gui apps I run from the console
[09:47] <trappist> and if I don't set DISPLAY (and ssh is configured to act like this, as it is by default) I'll see them, but they'll be running on your box.
[09:48] <danbuntu> arcasa - goto the kubuntu website and follow the instructions in order to update kde - it involes adding a repo and then doing an upgrade
[09:48] <frojnd> ok how can I install firefox 32bit on kubuntu
[09:48] <frojnd> (I have amd64)
[09:49] <frojnd> and this tutorial is for ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:49] <zorglu_> frojnd: which part doesnt work ?
[09:49] <trappist> frojnd: since I also have to worry about mplayer, wine, etc. I just set up a 32bit chroot and install regular 32bit packages in there
[09:49] <frojnd> gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc &
[09:49] <zorglu_> "gksudo gedit" should be replaced by "kdesu kate"
[09:49] <ubuntu__> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab, any idea what to do, im booting from kubuntu live cd
[09:49] <zorglu_> the same as the previous one :)
[09:50] <zorglu_> frojnd: it means "launch a text editor as admin/root"
[09:50] <frojnd> I see
[09:52] <frojnd> zorglu, I don't get the part when it says at this line to file. There are some links...
[09:53] <frojnd> do I have to add html code ? :shy:
[09:53] <casper__> hi... has anyone had success with installing Xgl/Compiz on Kubuntu 6.10/ATI ?
[09:53] <zorglu_> frojnd: ? which html code are your talking about
[09:53] <Hawkwind> casper__: I think several have.  Have you talked to the experts in #Ubuntu-XGL yet by chance ?
[09:53] <frojnd> zorglu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava (part 5)
[09:54] <frojnd> when I have to add text to file.
[09:54] <casper__> Hawkwind: no I havnt... what server is that room on?
[09:54] <Hawkwind> casper__: This network of course.  Just type:  /join #Ubuntu-XGL
[09:55] <zorglu_> frojnd: no, you simply put the text in the text file... the editor should be open via the 'kdesu kate'
[09:56] <brydenn> hmm i have an Adept Manager problem guys
[09:56] <matadio> Hey
[09:56] <brydenn> i just installed Edgy Etf Beta and tried to update the system in Adept Manager
[09:57] <brydenn> and it closed on me for some reason and every time i re-open it it says the process is still running and is in READ ONLY mode
[09:57] <brydenn> how do i fix that?
[09:57] <matadio> Does Kubuntu support multiple processors, and if it does will it run with four of them?
[09:57] <_ShoGo_> hi, could anyone give me a howto for compiz and xgl with ati?
[09:58] <zorglu_> brydenn: there is likely a lock remaining from the crash. you could reboot, or remove it by hand (harder and more dangerous)
[09:58] <fdoving> matadio: yes. would run very good with four.
[09:58] <matadio> Awesome
[09:58] <frojnd> zorglu: Create a new file for gdk-pixbuf.loaders  How can I do that
[09:58] <zorglu_> matadio: yes, would have to install server kenerl to take advange of them thos
[09:58] <brydenn> zorglu_:  i've done 2 reboots. it's still there
[09:58] <fdoving> !adept crash fix > brydenn
[09:59] <matadio> Thanks
[09:59] <intelikey> thanks guys.
[10:01] <brydenn> fdoving: what exactly does that command do?
[10:01] <Blacken> I have an ATI Radeon x1300 and am running the ATI proprietary drivers. How do I "enable direct rendering," as Boson requires?
[10:02] <fdoving> brydenn: finds the process locking the database (what makes the adept you start read-only), and ask you if you want to kill it or not.
[10:02] <brydenn> hmm
[10:02] <brydenn> cuz i just pressed Y and it's doing all this stuff in the Konsole
[10:02] <brydenn> haha hope its working ;)
[10:03] <brydenn> sweet. it worked. thanks fdoving
[10:03] <fdoving> brydenn: ah.. yes, the second part 'dpkg --configure -a' will configure all unpacked and unconfigured packages. too.
[10:03] <matadio> Does Kubuntu come with WINE?
[10:03] <brydenn> so basically it goes back through and finishes the process you were trying to do before the crash?
[10:04] <tomaz> matadio: no, not comes with
[10:04] <tomaz> but ya can install very easily
[10:04] <Arcasa> Boobs.
[10:04] <Arcasa> Nipples.
[10:04] <Arcasa> Tits.
[10:04] <frojnd> :D
[10:04] <Arcasa> Arse.
[10:04] <Arcasa> Vagina.
[10:05] <Arcasa> Take your pick.
[10:05] <matadio> Okay.
[10:05] <zorglu_> Arcasa: please avoid this kind of language here
[10:05] <Arcasa> I'm just trying to liven the place up!
[10:05] <trappist> Arcasa: kindly refrain.
[10:06] <Arcasa> Knock knock.
[10:06] <matadio> So just for my reference, it's Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome?
[10:06] <Arcasa> - Who's there?
[10:06] <bLaZeD> matadio, yes
[10:06] <Arcasa> Boo.
[10:06] <matadio> Awesome
[10:06] <Arcasa> -Boo who?
[10:06] <matadio> Thanks guy's
[10:06] <Arcasa> Don't cry. It's only a joke!
[10:06] <matadio> Arcasa: Please stop.
[10:06] <bLaZeD> matadio, u where asking about kubuntu correct...
[10:06] <matadio> Yes.
[10:06] <bLaZeD> then yes
[10:06] <trappist> !ops
[10:06] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind
[10:06] <bLaZeD> =D
[10:07] <Arcasa> Britain.
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ty Hawkwind
[10:07] <matadio> I've used Ubuntu, but I am getting a nice server with 4 processors, but I like KDE and was wondering if it was the same as Ubuntu minus the GUI
[10:07] <matadio> I was pretty sure it was.
[10:07] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: no problem.  Had my head in another channel :)
[10:10] <naragol> hola
[10:10] <naragol> de que va esto?
[10:11] <naragol> como funciona?
[10:11] <zorglu_> !es
[10:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:11] <naragol> ok, muchas gracias
[10:11] <zorglu_> np
[10:11] <naragol> thank you, i wanted saing ;)
[10:11] <cpk2> matadio: if you dont want a gui you can just install from an alternate cd
[10:11] <naragol> bye
[10:12] <matadio> I know
[10:12] <matadio> However, I'd rather just not have to do it if I can avoid it
[10:13] <cpk2> also if you want wine the main dapper repo doesnt have a very new package for wine but i think the wiki gives you a repo that is updated regularly, or the wine page gives you the repo
[10:19] <arcasa_> MUAHAHAHAHA
[10:19] <arcasa_> BATMAN
[10:19] <arcasa_> BATMAN
[10:20] <Hawkwind> arcasa_: I assume you don't plan on stopping do you
[10:20] <arcasa_> I just did.
[10:27] <tomaz> !pt
[10:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:28] <tomaz> this is a female bot o.o
[10:28] <cpk2> lol
[10:29] <cpk2> so is it bad if i try to bring up my wireless card that lspci lists as "Unknown device 0301"
[10:30] <trappist> cpk2: I *think* that just means the device id isn't in the database
[10:30] <cpk2> i think last time i tried to bring it up the whole system got angry
[10:30] <trappist> cpk2: which could be bad, as some drivers specifically look for a list of device ids that they support
[10:32] <cpk2> ok now i know my system didnt like it because first google result had some guy with same problem (after bringing it up cant sudo and root programs dont work)
[10:32] <fdoving> cpk2: you can update the pciids with the 'update-pccids' script.
[10:33] <cpk2> fdoving: great now it knows the toplevel name but i still have this "Subsystem: RaLink: Unknown device 2561" is that a problem?
[10:34] <cpk2> and is it safe to try to bring up now?
[10:34] <fdoving> cpk2: sure.
[10:37] <cpk2> hrmm lspci says the card is ra0 but ifup says its an unknown interface
[10:38] <_arne_> wich of the kubuntu rooms are in swedish?
[10:39] <Skrot> !se
[10:39] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[10:39] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:39] <buzzy0> :$
[10:39] <MotorCityMadMan> running kubuntu dapper is adept or synaptic recommended ?
[10:40] <cpk2> well kubuntu comes with adept
[10:41] <MotorCityMadMan> cpk2: yes but is synaptic recommended over adept ?
[10:41] <cpk2> they both do the same job
[10:41] <Hawkwind> MotorCityMadMan: It's all about personal choice really
[10:41] <cpk2> personally i use apt-get
[10:41] <Hawkwind> MotorCityMadMan: Some like adept, some like aptitude, synaptic, some of us just use apt-get from CLI
[10:42] <MotorCityMadMan> i like the apt-get me self. i like looking at those words in the shell
[10:43] <oomph_7> MotorCityMadMan: my advice wold be to learn apt-get the commands are pretty simple once you get into the habbit
[10:44] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:44] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:44] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:44] <buzzy0> how can i change my boot loader in kubuntu? can t find where to click!!1
[10:44] <buzzy0> pleaseeeeeeeeee
[10:44] <MotorCityMadMan> buzzy0: did look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:44] <buzzy0> maybe i havent installed it?
[10:44] <menace> !lock
[10:45] <Skrot> Jesus christ, buzzy0.. what do you want to change about your bootloader?
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <menace> whats the command to unlock adept?
[10:45] <buzzy0> people where can i edit my boot loader infos?
[10:45] <MotorCityMadMan> menace: sudo
[10:45] <menace> no not that.
[10:45] <menace> hang on ill show you the error
[10:46] <mikko> menace what you want to do ?
[10:46] <Skrot> buzzy0: By default, Kubuntu uses Grub. The Grub config file is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst -- you should edit that as sudo, since your regular user probably don't have the proper access
[10:46] <trappist> !adept crash fix
[10:46] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:46] <MotorCityMadMan> buzzy0: sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst from shell
[10:46] <menace> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[10:46] <cpk2> lol this companies "documentation" for using their wireless pci card is an html page of hexeditor or whatever
[10:46] <menace> thats my error
[10:46] <trappist> menace: ^
[10:46] <menace> kk ty
[10:46] <buzzy0> Skrot:  tnx but i 'd like to do i t graphically
[10:46] <buzzy0> is there any interface? Skrot ?
[10:47] <jatos> kill any other package managers you hae open
[10:47] <Skrot> buzzy0: No, there hasn't been made any GUI for editing grub as far as I know. You can edit the textfile in a graphical texteditor though
[10:47] <buzzy0> ok
[10:47] <buzzy0> is there a config panel in kubuntu?
[10:47] <buzzy0> Skrot: ?
[10:47] <jpiccolo> does linux eventually purge out ram that its not using?
[10:48] <jatos> no Buzzy0
[10:48] <Skrot> buzzy0: Not for editing grub, no. But if you want to edit it, go to The K Menu -> Run -> Konsole. When you're in Konsole, type "sudo kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst" and enter your password.
[10:48] <jatos> hes gone
[10:48] <Skrot> yeah
[10:48] <Skrot> hehe
[10:48] <MotorCityMadMan> Uptime: 1 days, 12 hours and 46 minutes
[10:48] <jatos> mind I pm skrot?
[10:49] <unix_infidel> jpiccolo: linux memory management is a bit more complex than windows memory management where you can use apps to "purge" memory.
[10:49] <Skrot> MotorCityMadMan: Are you using konversation?
[10:49] <Skrot> jatos: What's it about? I'm not logged in so I can't answer on privmsg's
[10:49] <Dr_willis> linux thinking.. when in doubt use memory to cache the drive.. release it as needed
[10:49] <jatos> just a question I rather not ask in public...
[10:49] <Skrot> Two secs.
[10:50] <MotorCityMadMan> Skrot: yes and you ?
[10:50] <Acidic31> how do i get my Sony CyberShot DSC-T10 to work in KDE
[10:50] <Acidic31> works fine in Gnome
[10:50] <Maneit> There, jatos
[10:50] <Maneit> MotorCityMadMan: Yes. But you where using /uptime, right? I made that script \o/
[10:50] <jpiccolo> unix_infidel, ok i was just wondering be cause i am messing with samba between 2 linux boxes, and the server box was at very low ram usage untill i started a large file transfer, then the ram went up. but i have since stopped the transfer and the ram usage is still high, is that ok?
[10:50] <MotorCityMadMan> Maneit: thank you
[10:51] <sorush20> what is the ubuntu kernel version in the alternet iso?
[10:51] <unix_infidel> jpiccolo: yupp, i've never doubted linux memory management unless i've got some symptoms that i have to deal with.
[10:51] <Maneit> MotorCityMadMan: hehe, no problem. I made it 5 years ago or something, you're the first one I've ever seen using it besides me
[10:51] <draik> Maneit, thanks for that script. Works wonders when fiance tells me to be quick on the desktop late at night
[10:51] <unix_infidel> and the root of those symptoms are usually not the kernel itself but the app.
[10:51] <MotorCityMadMan> Sysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 1004 MHz (2011 bogomips), , RAM: 494/503MB, 121 proc's, 1.12d up
[10:52] <mikko> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2600+ at 2079 MHz (4163 bogomips), , RAM: 637/1010MB, 97 proc's, 5.6h up
[10:52] <sorush20> !kernel
[10:52] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:52] <jpiccolo> unix_infidel, ok yeah i figured it would be ok, i am messing around figuring out what i am going to need for a NAS box
[10:52] <MotorCityMadMan> damn i need more RAM
[10:52] <unix_infidel> everyone needs more RAM.
[10:52] <draik> I wish I can use more RAM
[10:52] <draik> I need more HDD space
[10:52] <MotorCityMadMan> 200HDD here
[10:53] <draik> 500HDD
[10:53] <draik> well, 580HDD
[10:53] <MotorCityMadMan> you the man
[10:53] <draik> 250 + 250 + 80
[10:53] <fdoving> hint #kubuntu-offtopic hint.
[10:53] <draik> hardly
[10:53] <Maneit> 1260HDD :(
[10:53] <mikko> :s
[10:53] <Maneit> I win
[10:53] <draik> sorry fdoving
[10:53] <draik> Maneit, how many HDDs?
[10:54] <Maneit> 4*250, 2x120
[10:54] <jpiccolo> ubuntu and kubuntu server install are exactly the same right?
[10:54] <Maneit> Way to be consistant with */x there.. hehe
[10:54] <draik> I'm in offtopic now
[10:54] <Dr_willis> thats almost enough for my porn.. err.. vacation videos...
[10:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:54] <Maneit> haha
[10:54] <draik> lol
[10:54] <Dr_willis> its for research!
[10:54] <draik> of course
[10:54] <fdoving> jpiccolo: there is no,  kubuntu-server, is there?
[10:54] <draik> when isn't it?
[10:54] <Dr_willis> Im working for Mr. Foley!
[10:54] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis:
[10:54] <unix_infidel> ?
[10:55] <draik> Mr. Foley, why does that sound familiar?
[10:55] <Maneit> Dr_willis: Guess you're a gynecologist then
[10:55] <Dr_willis> and Bill Clinton. :)
[10:55] <draik> lol
[10:55] <Dr_willis> draik,  hes all over the Drive By MEdia at the moment.
[10:55] <jpiccolo> fdoving, i have a disc that is
[10:55] <Dr_willis> "explisit 'instant messanges' to pages, and other young kids... supposubly'
[10:55] <jpiccolo> fdoving, kubuntu non-live cd
[10:56] <fdoving> jpiccolo: ah, the alternate cd?
[10:56] <jpiccolo> fdoving, yeah
[10:56] <fdoving> jpiccolo: that's not the server cd, however you can install a minimal system from it.
[10:56] <jpiccolo> i am guessing that the install would be the same
[10:56] <jpiccolo> oh really
[10:56] <jpiccolo> it says server install in the menu
[10:57] <draik> Is there a diff between Kubuntu CD and Kubuntu DVD?
[10:57] <draik> other than the obvious CD and DVD
[10:57] <fdoving> draik: more packages on the dvd.
[10:57] <fdoving> jpiccolo: ok, then i think there is a difference.. but i'm not sure.
[10:58] <draik> fdoving, nothing more than packages?
[10:58] <jpiccolo> ok, so if i want smallest running system go with the ubuntu server install
[10:58] <fdoving> draik: not that i'm aware of, what would you expect? free music and movies? :)
[10:58] <draik> lol
[10:58] <draik> no
[10:59] <sorush20> anyone here image their boot partition?
[10:59] <sorush20> auto image..
[10:59] <fdoving> jpiccolo: the packages will probably be the same.. but with the server install cd, you'll get more 'server packages' on the cd, with the kubuntu alternate cd, you can install the same packages, but you'll have to download them from the repositories over itnernet.
[10:59] <fdoving> sorush20: i use partimage once a week.
[11:00] <sorush20> fdoving: partimage it is then great..
[11:00] <jpiccolo> fdoving, ok so the running process's should be the same
[11:01] <fdoving> jpiccolo: as far as i know, yes.
[11:01] <draik> fdoving, I'm not sure what I was expecting, to be honest.  I was thinking there'd be more to it like a better or higher (?) kernel or KDE or something.
[11:01] <cpk2> if i need to install a driver for a pci device I can just use a module correct?
[11:01] <cpk2> install a driver from source*
[11:01] <fdoving> draik: no, just more software on the disc, so you won't need to download everything from the internet when installiing from adept/apt.
[11:01] <sorush20> is partimage.org down?
[11:02] <draik> I have fallen in love with apt-get
[11:02] <fdoving> cpk2: working on the wifi stuff? try 'apt-cache search ralink'
[11:02] <draik> How do you author a CD/DVD?
[11:02] <draik> I heard about making your own CD/DVD from your current installs
[11:03] <fdoving> sorush20: works for me.. partimage.org that is.
[11:03] <draik> Am I outdated/wrong/misinformed/???
[11:03] <cpk2> fdoving: unfortunatly those 2 arent my card =( but i got the source from the chip maker
[11:04] <fdoving> draik: this might be usefull for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[11:04] <fdoving> cpk2: ah.. ok.
[11:06] <cpk2> fdoving: I just dont really want to have to rebuild my kernel
[11:06] <fdoving> cpk2: no, you only need to build the module.
[11:10] <draik> fdoving, that was exactly what I was looking for, thank you
[11:16] <BonBonTheJon> bye!
[11:16] <BonBonTheJon> also duie
[11:19] <ypsila> good evening
[11:21] <ypsila> anybody in here?
[11:24] <[GuS] > people, some knows an app. to take snapshots (or record) from a webcam and upload to ftp? (other than camstream)
[11:26] <amaiko> press print screen
[11:26] <ypsila> [gijoe] :
[11:26] <octan> [GuS]  xawtv
[11:26] <ypsila> [GuS] : sorry; I do not know much about it
[11:26] <[GuS] > ok
[11:26] <[GuS] > amaiko, is not what i mean..........
[11:28] <[GuS] > maybe webcamd will do the job
[11:28] <[GuS] > with camstream i have problems to enable 2 webcam, same model
[11:28] <ypsila> [GuS] :  I'm just a kubuntu beginner, but we used to save webcam as jpg and then ftp, but I guess thats not wha you want to achieve
[11:28] <[GuS] > no
[11:28] <[GuS] > i need something like camstream indeed
[11:29] <ypsila> a permanent upstream?
[11:29] <octan> GuS motion
[11:29] <[GuS] > yes
[11:29] <[GuS] > octan, ?
[11:29] <octan> it takes a snap every time something moves
[11:29] <ypsila> sorry if my questions seem ridicoulus to you, I try to understand
[11:29] <[GuS] > mm
[11:29] <[GuS] > let me check
[11:29] <octan> its called motion
[11:30] <ypsila> octan:  I got that feature on my logitec, but never had the intention to put it to the weg
[11:30] <ypsila> b
[11:30] <[GuS] > only on motion octan ?
[11:30] <[GuS] > i need to take snap every X seconds
[11:30] <[GuS] > not every motion
[11:30] <octan> GuS check it out... make it has some otions like that too
[11:31] <[GuS] > ok
[11:31] <[GuS] > thanks
[11:31] <[GuS] > yango, http://www.gdnet.com.ar/modules/webcam/ is what i am configuring
[11:31] <[GuS] > that usign camstream
[11:32] <[GuS] > mm nice, motion is on repositories
[11:32] <[GuS] > is GUI or console app octan ?
[11:32] <octan> cli
[11:32] <hussam> I noticed this. http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/pool-edgy , Does this mean that edgy will have kde 3.5.5?
[11:32] <[GuS] > Ok
[11:33] <[GuS] > thanks for the info octan  ;)
[11:33] <octan> np
[11:34] <octan> [GuS] , its perfect for web use.. cos thers no reason recording when something is not happening,, right,,so  you only want to record something thats moving
[11:34] <judith_> how can I make VLC handle yahoo video?
[11:34] <[GuS] > ok, i know
[11:34] <[GuS] > just i want to take snap every 10 s.
[11:35] <octan> [GuS] , yes motion can do that,, it can snap every 10 sec as long as there is motion :)
[11:35] <ypsila> but not without
[11:36] <hussam> Hi Riddell, will these kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/pool-edgy be uploaded to edgy?
[11:36] <ypsila> [GuS] :  with an ordinary camera this should work
[11:36] <octan> why you wanna record a still pic?
[11:37] <[GuS] > ?
[11:37] <ypsila> octan: why not? we did that to see the moon "walk"
[11:37] <steveire> Hey, I was trying to install something from source and I got this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:37] <[GuS] > octan, i think thats is for me... if i want to record still pics.. right? :)
[11:37] <steveire> Any idea what I should do about that?
[11:38] <judith_> steveire: install the build-essential package
[11:38] <ypsila> steveire: repositories?
[11:38] <judith_> steveire: install the build-essential package and anything like "xlibs*"
[11:39] <steveire> judith_: I've got it already. I'll look for the libs
[11:39] <Sanne_> steveire: you probably need the X development packages, maybe xlibs-dev
[11:41] <judith_> how can I make VLC handle yahoo video? Right now, Totem is the default and it cannot handle the stuff!
[11:41] <steveire> Hmm, Sanne_, that package wants to install a lot of other stuff...
[11:41] <steveire> I'll go for it anyway
[11:42] <Sanne_> steveire: yes, this is a meta package
[11:42] <steveire> What's VLC?
[11:42] <Sanne_> steveire: maybe you only need some of those dependencies
[11:42] <[GuS] > mmm
[11:42] <[GuS] > i jave same problem
[11:42] <steveire> Sanne_: Right, but the meta-package is catch-all
[11:42] <[GuS] > seems having two same webcams... just can use one :(
[11:42] <[GuS] > (same model)
[11:43] <ypsila> [GuS] : so one gets priority?
[11:43] <Sanne_> steveire: maybe try with libx11-dev first, also look here for descriptions of all those dev packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/oldlibs/xlibs-dev
[11:43] <[GuS] > yes.. one or another
[11:43] <[GuS] > i can use boths
[11:43] <[GuS] > cant*
[11:43] <Bandwidth> hey peoples
[11:44] <ypsila> [GuS] :  seems logical
[11:44] <ypsila> hallo Bandwidth
[11:44] <[GuS] > why?
[11:44] <islam_> http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[11:44] <[GuS] > are in diff. usb ports.-..
[11:44] <steveire> I've already installed the meta package, I'm getting the same situation now with Qt though.
[11:44] <ypsila> [GuS] : conlfict? which is first and which is second?
[11:44] <[GuS] > i will test iwth 2 diff webcams...
[11:44] <[GuS] > to see
[11:45] <ypsila> [GuS] :  drivers
[11:45] <steveire> Sanne_: Is there qt-dev or something like that?
[11:45] <Sanne_> steveire: you need to have the *dev packages of every library your compilation wants to link to
[11:46] <Sanne_> steveire: search for something starting with libqt and ending with -dev ;)
[11:46] <Sanne_> steveire: does the error mention a specific file it doesn't find?
[11:47] <[GuS] > ypsila, webcam works great, drivers works great
[11:47] <[GuS] > thats is not the problem
[11:47] <ypsila> [GuS] : what did you do?
[11:48] <steveire> Sanne_: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:48] <[GuS] > ?
[11:48] <steveire> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[11:48] <[GuS] > ypsila, just to make you sure, i am not a newbie :)
[11:48] <steveire> I see nothing of interest in the config.log though.
[11:48] <ypsila> [GuS] : you said: two identical webcams :-D
[11:48] <Sanne_> steveire: no file mentioned. If it did, you could go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the package that provides said file in the section "Search the contents of packages"
[11:48] <steveire> Will I install libqt3-dev?
[11:49] <tdn> I have installed kubuntu-desktop, but I still use gdm instead of kdm. Now I would like to use kdm. What do I do?
[11:49] <steveire> ah, I'll keep that in mind
[11:49] <[GuS] > ypsila, yes
[11:49] <[GuS] > so?
[11:49] <Sanne_> steveire: sec, I'll check something
[11:50] <ypsila> [GuS] :  how can your system know, when to switch from cam 1 to cam 2?
[11:50] <[GuS] > because /dev/video0 /dev/video1 etc etc ypsila
[11:50] <[GuS] > did you know that? :)
[11:50] <ypsila> [GuS] : but both will take the same driver?
[11:51] <Sanne_> steveire: I have libqt3-headers installed, I guess that's it, according to its description.
[11:51] <steveire> I'll have a go so.
[11:52] <steveire> Hmmm, another big meta-package
[11:52] <octan> ahh gus
[11:52] <octan> i know how to now
[11:53] <Sanne_> steveire: quote from description: "If you want to compile or develop programs which use Qt3, you have to install this package."
[11:53] <octan> install cqamgrab
[11:53] <ypsila> [GuS] :  as I already mentionded, I'm a beginner on kubuntu
[11:53] <steveire> Sanne_: Yeah, so I see.
[11:53] <Sanne_> steveire: :)
[11:53] <steveire> I had a quick aptitude show
[11:54] <steveire> getting packages always seems exceptionally fast, even for large downloads...
[11:54] <cpk2> to upgrade my kernel to 686 do i want to apt-get linux-686 or linux-image-686 ?
[11:54] <Sanne_> steveire: and I also have libqt3-mt-dev installed
[11:55] <steveire> I will too after this aptitude run
[11:55] <octan> [GuS] ,apt-get install camgrab,, then make a script like,,   while [ !-e /tmp/camstopfile ]  ;do sleep 10;  camgrap -device /dev/videoX -output /path/to/file.jpg ; done
[11:55] <Sanne_> steveire: ah, yes, with recommends ;)
[11:55] <[GuS] > ahh nice idea
[11:55] <octan> to stop it from running jusy do echo "0" > /tmp/camstopfile
[11:55] <[GuS] > camgrab could send it to the website? va FTP por example?
[11:56] <octan> yes
[11:56] <[GuS] > ok
[11:56] <steveire> Sanne_: Huh? I didn't know it automatically gets recommends too.
[11:56] <Sanne_> steveire: as far as I know, aptitude does. libqt3-mt-dev is listed under recommends for libqt3-headers.
[11:57] <steveire> right. I'm getting a similar error now for KDE. If I know anything about this, it'll probably be the last one...
[11:58] <steveire> I don't see any obvious candidate -dev's though
[11:58] <Sanne_> steveire: on to a hunt for kde dev packages, then :)
[11:58] <Sanne_> steveire: libkde...dev
[11:59] <Sanne_> steveire: I don't seem to have any of those, I'll help you find them on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:59] <steveire> I don't see any either. I see java files, games files etc.
[11:59] <SB|nblracer> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[12:00] <drayen__> the k :P
[12:00] <Dr_willis> KDE and GNOME  by default as the DE.
[12:00] <steveire> Sanne_: kdebase-dev?
[12:00] <Sanne_> steveire: you're sure you don't see any file it complains about, maybe in config.log?
[12:00] <Sanne_> steveire: ah, sounds good
[12:01] <steveire> there's also kde-devel and kde-devel-extras
[12:01] <steveire> I'll look in the config.olg
[12:02] <Sanne_> steveire: I would decide from the descriptions and try them one by one. But kdebase-dev sounds good.
[12:03] <tony_> hello everyone..
[12:04] <tony_> can you please tell me , how to creat shortcut on my desktop ( KDE ) .. LIKE Trash , etc
[12:04] <Dr_willis> kde has some settings to show those icons.
[12:05] <Dr_willis> or to not show them.
[12:05] <steveire> agreed. Although I'll probably have all of the kde-devel files once I've installed the core...
[12:05] <tony_> im new , so can you please tell me how enable those setting to show them on my desktopp ?
[12:05] <Dr_willis> They are in the Perferances somewhere..  proberly under the Desktop Settings
[12:06] <Dr_willis> that would be the logical place for them
[12:06] <Sanne_> steveire: look at the dependencies, some my be metapackages anyway. Oh, there's also kdelibs4-dev, sounds also like you could need that.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> i see a tab for device icons.. but none for trash.. Hmm.. never wanted trash there anyway.. i perfer it on the panel
[12:07] <tony_> where did you see that..
[12:07] <tony_> im in system setting
[12:08] <Dr_willis> right click on the desktop
[12:08] <tony_> if i rightclick on desktop i can creat shortcuts , but i have to enter some command i guess, i tried that before and nothing worked, cuz i have no idea where those files reside
[12:08] <SB|nblracer> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[12:08] <Dr_willis> configure desktop -> in the tabs
[12:08] <Dr_willis> SB|nblracer,  one has KDE one has GNOME
[12:09] <SB|nblracer> what is kde?
[12:09] <steveire> It configured fine. Thanks for the help Sanne_. I'm kinda pleased that it didn't work the first time around. I've not installed from source before, so now I know how to do it and what it does...
[12:09] <SB|nblracer> n vm
[12:09] <Sanne_> steveire: yeah, the first time it can be pretty much work hunting for all those devel stuff. Glad to have helped, you're welcome :)