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[12:39] <dilinger> are there plans for dapper switching to a newer kernel, or will it stick w/ 2.6.15?
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[12:48] <ivoks> it will stay with 2.6.15, of course
[12:49] <ivoks> welcome to enterprise :)
[12:50] <dilinger> heh
[12:50] <dilinger> ok, just curious
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[12:50] <dilinger> i noticed a rejected request to backport 2.6.17 for dapper-backports
[12:52] <ivoks> time to go to bed
[12:52] <ivoks> bye all
[12:52] <porkpie3> hi ....I have been working with ivoks from ubuntu-server and he has recommended I talk to you guys.  I am trying to install ubuntu 6.0.6 tls on a dell 1950 which is using the PERC 5/i raid controller but we are having issues
[12:54] <porkpie3> Can anyone help with this issue .... unbuntu partitoiner is seeing 3 drives instead of 1 logical drive ...
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[12:58] <porkpie3> Ok what is the best way to get some help here  ....can I post the syslog and dmesg so where .....I want to use ubuntu but it seems to have a problem with the Dell 1950
[01:03] <porkpie3> Guy's this is kernel development ....
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[01:10] <gnomefreak> dilinger: ubuntu doesnt backport kernels too big of a change and can render things usless or unstable at best
[01:10] <gnomefreak> porkpie3: this is not a support channel
[01:22] <zul> i think dilinger knows that
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=== ilmari prods Someone[tm]  about bug #33950
[03:50] <mjg59> ilmari: I believe the tablet bit of it to be wrong
[03:51] <mjg59> Independent confirmation would be good
[03:52] <ilmari> the plain X41 bit is definitely right. I don't know anyone with the tablet version
[03:52] <ilmari> doesn't anyone on the laptop testing team have one?
[03:53] <mjg59> Nope
[03:53] <mjg59> I know someone who does, though. I'll try to get it checked.
[03:53] <mjg59> Is it still a problem with edgy?
[03:53] <mjg59> The driver has changed quite a lot there
[03:54] <ilmari> yes
[03:54] <ilmari> just tested
[03:54] <mjg59> Right
[03:54] <infinity> zul_: Around?
[03:54] <mjg59> I need to sleep now, but I'll check later
[03:57] <ilmari> great
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[09:23] <porkpie> Hi ....I am trying to build a Dell 1950 with a PERC 5/i raid controller but the kernel seems to be detecting the scsi drives be the raid controller.  This is causing problems when installing the base system as I see 3 drives instead of the 1 logical drive.  I have been testing with ivoks on the ubuntu-server channel and he has suggested I talk to you guys.  
[09:29] <porkpie> here is the link to the syslog http://pastebin.com/799176
[09:32] <porkpie> link to dmesg_log http://pastebin.com/799179   Any help would really be appreciated 
[09:32] <porkpie> brb
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[10:41] <AnAnt> why does edgy use UUID=XXXXX instead of /dev/XdY# in menu.lst & fstab ?
[10:42] <tonfa> so that it's stable
[10:42] <AnAnt> stable ?
[10:42] <tonfa> and doesn't change if you plug another drive
[10:42] <tonfa> or if you use the libata driver for example
[10:43] <tonfa> with the libata driver ide devices change from /dev/hdX to /dev/sdX
[10:43] <tonfa> but I think they won't be used in edgy
[10:44] <tonfa> but might in edgy+[12] 
[10:44] <AnAnt> ic
[10:45] <tonfa> I hope they do the same for network devices names
[10:45] <tonfa> persistant names are good :)
[10:45] <ajmitch> we alreayd have /etc/iftab for that
[10:45] <AnAnt> but that's hard to maintain
[10:46] <tonfa> ajmitch: why don't you use udev ?
[10:46] <ajmitch> tonfa: I do
[10:46] <tonfa> /etc/iftab uses udev for renaming ?
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[10:46] <ajmitch> see /etc/udev/rules.d/25-iftab.rules 
[10:47] <ajmitch> which is a bit OT for this channel :)
[10:47] <tonfa> yup, sorry
[10:48] <AnAnt> ajmitch: but that UUID thing is really wierd if one wants to change configuration
[10:49] <ajmitch> you just need to know how to get the UUID of a filesystem then
[10:50] <AnAnt> k
[10:51] <tonfa> Use dumpe2fs(8) to display a journal devices volume label   and   UUID.
[10:51] <ajmitch> or /sbin/vol_id <device>
[10:53] <AnAnt> ajmitch: thank
[10:53] <AnAnt> s
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[11:29] <porkpie> Hi
[11:30] <porkpie> Hi ....I am trying to build a Dell 1950 with a PERC 5/i raid controller but the kernel seems to be detecting the scsi drives be the raid controller.  This is causing problems when installing the base system as I see 3 drives instead of the 1 logical drive.  I have been testing with ivoks on the ubuntu-server channel and he has suggested I talk to you guys.  
[11:30] <porkpie> link to dmesg_log http://pastebin.com/799179   Any help would really be appreciated 
[11:30] <porkpie> here is the link to the syslog http://pastebin.com/799176
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=== porkpie can anyone here shed any light on this problem ...why would the kernel detect the hard dirve be the raid controller ??
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[12:06] <tfheen> BenC: remember the kernel freeze in two days.
[12:23] <porkpie> tfheen:I have a kernel issue  ....can you help ??
[12:24] <tfheen> porkpie: probably not, I'm not a kernel hacker
[12:25] <porkpie> OK
[12:25] <porkpie> I need to find a fix for the Dell 1950 PERC 5/i problem
[12:45] <lfittl> BenC: ping
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[01:32] <zul> somone pinged me?
[01:34] <BenC> lfittl: pong
[01:35] <lfittl> BenC: could you take a look at bug #63054 and bug #63553?
[01:37] <BenC> porkpie: Which version of ubuntu are you trying?
[01:40] <porkpie> BenC:version 6.0.6.1 LTS amd64
[01:41] <BenC> lfittl: I can do he sdhci patch easily. The sleep problem is going to require someone with the ability to use git-bisect to rebuild hte kernel a bunch of times to find the commit that started the problem
[01:42] <BenC> porkpie: Known issues, fixed in Edgy
[01:42] <BenC> will be backported to dapper, but don't expect it soon
[01:42] <lfittl> BenC: ok, will try to work together with the person who has the sleep problem to find the commit, would be great if you could merge the sdhci patch
[01:43] <porkpie> BenC:can I download Edgy ?
[01:44] <BenC> porkpie: You can download the Beta CD's
[01:44] <porkpie> BenC ...are they iso 
[01:44] <porkpie> where from
[01:46] <BenC> porkpie: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
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[01:48] <porkpie> BenC:thanks ...I will feedback on issues I find 
[01:55] <porkpie> BenC:is there a list of fixes for edgy 
[01:57] <porkpie> BenC:does it fix the network card issue as well ?
[02:08] <tfheen> BenC: re 63085; I think you meant to file it against initramfs-tools adding jmicron to the list of ide modules, didn't you?
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[02:28] <BenC> tfheen: No, initramfs tool does the job on my computer
[02:29] <BenC> tfheen: I don't think initramfs tools creates the initrd on the livecd
[02:29] <BenC> tfheen: After install, everything works fine
[02:29] <tfheen> BenC: trust me, initramfs-tools creates the initramfs on the livecd.
[02:30] <BenC> tfheen: Then it isn't doing the same thing as it does on a normal system
[02:30] <BenC> tfheen: Are you sure there aren't special scripts in the casper build that tell initramfs tools what drivers to include?
[02:30] <tfheen> BenC: yes, it is, but on your system it probably sees that you have it loaded and therefore includes it.
[02:30] <tfheen> BenC: there are a couple of modules added, but none removed, no.
[02:31] <BenC> tfheen: Re-assign as you think is required
[02:31] <tfheen> look at auto_add_modules in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions
[02:31] <BenC> my first through, given the circumstances was that it was casper, but if you're sure it's initramfs-tools, please re-assign there
[02:32] <tfheen> casper adds unionfs, squashfs, loop, vfat, ext3, nls_cp437, nls_utf8, nls_iso8859-1, sr_mod, ide-cd, sbp2, ohci1394 and the net modules
[02:32] <tfheen> none other
[02:41] <porkpie> BenC:the beta iso install is not working :(  I can't create a user ..it doesn't allow you to type the name ????
[02:41] <porkpie> BenC:I know this is not the right place to ask these question but I am desperate to get this server built 
[02:42] <BenC> porkpie: Use the alternate install CD then
[02:42] <BenC> instead of the livecd version
[02:43] <porkpie> OK  ..I don't want to install the desktop though
[02:43] <mjg59> #/win goto #assassins
[02:43] <mjg59> Grgh.
[02:43] <BenC> porkpie: Then use the server install
[02:44] <BenC> mjg59: you've been outted...I knew you were undercover for some foreign goverment
[02:44] <porkpie> BenC:I am 
[02:44] <BenC> porkpie: As in #ubuntu, maybe there's a workaround
[02:44] <BenC> porkpie: You can try an edgy daily ISO to see if it's fixed, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <porkpie> OK cool
[02:45] <porkpie> thanks
[03:03] <porkpie> BenC:one more question ...where can I find a list of the fixes ??
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[03:25] <BenC> porkpie: /usr/share/doc/linux-source-2.6.17/changelog.Debian.gz
[03:43] <porkpie1> BenC:edgy hangs after install when trying to load kernel :(
[03:54] <BenC> porkpie1: Start it without "splash quiet" options, and give it a few minutes to be sure it isn't just slow
[04:09] <porkpie1> BenC: how do i do that 
[04:09] <porkpie1> I am used to FreeBSD  ...bit  stuck with ubuntu 
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[04:11] <tonfa> esc to have the grub menu
[04:11] <tonfa> and then go to the entry
[04:12] <tonfa> type 'c' to edit the line
[04:12] <tonfa> enter when you are finished
[04:12] <tonfa> hum that's 'e' to edit the line
[04:12] <tonfa> ('c' is a cmd line prompt)
[04:12] <tonfa> and at the end 'b' to boot
[04:12] <porkpie1> BenC:Ah ...OK ..I have an error now ALERT! /dev/sad1 doesn't exist. Dropping to a shell ! BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu) Built-in shell (ash)   
[04:13] <porkpie1> '/bin/sh:can't access tty; job contol turned off'
[04:13] <porkpie1> I am at the (initramfs)
[04:15] <porkpie1> tonfa:any ideas 
[04:15] <tonfa> shouldn't it be /dev/sda1 ?
[04:15] <tonfa> (or did you mistype it)
[04:16] <porkpie1> tonfa:thats how I feel :)
[04:16] <porkpie1> yeah it's a typo sorry
[04:16] <tonfa> :)
[04:16] <tonfa> maybe ls /dev can help
[04:17] <porkpie1> I have been trying to build this server for 5 days solid no
[04:17] <tonfa> (to see what devices are there)
[04:17] <tonfa> dmesg might be helpful too
[04:17] <zul> sweet i got invited
[04:18] <porkpie1> I can't find the | to do a more
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[04:20] <porkpie1> I can't find a dmeag
[04:20] <porkpie1> dmesg
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[04:46] <mhb> hello, have you modified the skge driver in the Edgy default kernel?
[04:46] <mhb> it is not working correctly with the current Edgy kernel (send_packet: Message too long) although it works fine in Dapper
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[05:29] <lamont> zul: wth is xen-source packaged as a native package?
[05:30] <zul> umm...because i probably made a mistake
[05:30] <lamont> zul: sigh
[05:30] <lamont> mind you, fixing it requires a new upstream version number, so that you can have an orig.tar.gz to upload
[05:31] <zul> so like 2.6.17.3 or something like that
[05:31] <lamont> xen-source-2.6.17_2.6.17.0.orig.tar.gz for example
[05:31] <lamont> with a version in debina/changelog of 2.6.17.0-1
[05:32] <lamont> s/na/an/
[05:32] <lamont> what it really means is that when you packaged 2.6.17-1, you didn't have a .orig.tar.gz in the parent directory
[05:33] <zul> crappers...ill try to fix that thanks
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