=== doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-115-244.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-82-251.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] what nick does Dennis Kaarsmaker use on IRC? [12:21] Seveas [12:21] wait [12:21] yes. [12:21] correct [12:21] there he is. [12:22] Q-FUNK, it's Kaarsemaker by the way : === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@unaffiliated/lotusleaf] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] oh, sorry :) [12:24] Seveas: I just wanted to know what's going on with usplash-theme-ubuntu [12:24] not much atm [12:24] I'm not on the art team, so can't tell [12:25] Bug #61126 [12:25] Malone bug 61126 in usplash-theme-ubuntu "fails to set the alternative to replace the testcard" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61126 [12:25] that's solved in usplash -31 [12:25] ah [12:26] Seveas: weren't you on Atari before, btw? [12:26] no === Q-FUNK renables splash and runs update-grub, then reboots... === NthDegree [n=IDENT@194-247-238-128.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] Seveas: ok, I indeed get something that spalshes. no boot messages at all, though. [12:43] Q-FUNK, that's expected behaviour [12:43] then if i remove the quiet boot option, I get messages, but the message box is over where the progress bar is, so they both try to paint over each other [12:43] it wasn't the behavior until usplash 0.3 :) [12:45] that's not normal -- they should be confined to their own space. COuld you perhaps make a photo of it? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] i wished, but no digi cam here [12:46] however, I got a call from one user today thta he sees the same thing [12:46] it's only now that i realized what he was describing [12:46] his host runs in 1024x768, while mine runs in 800x600 [12:47] the message box is off-center and partialy overlaps the progress bar [12:49] ah [12:49] that's my bad - but I won't fix it [12:49] the theme will change drastically === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] how so? [12:52] isn't it just a metter of changing the positioning of the box in the .h file that defines the theme settings? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] bddebian: would you like to help me with acidrip again? [12:53] I'll also extend this offer to any free MOTU :D === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] sladen: what just happend ? :-) [12:53] sladen: suddenly DNS was lost [01:12] Q-FUNK, .c file actually, but yes [01:12] I don't want to make a pointless upload though [01:14] Seveas: why? the theme is expected to change again soon? [01:14] the theme will change drastically [01:14] I just said that ;) [01:14] the current theme is a 3-minute rushjob [01:15] Seveas: ambiguous sentence. :) it could have meant thta fixing the C file would have wreaked havoc :) [01:15] heh, ok === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-85-156.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] moins all [01:27] imbrandon: can I borrow your upload rights for a sec :) [01:28] imbrandon: I've already made a debdiff for your convenience.... [01:28] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acidrip/+bug/63582 [01:28] Malone bug 63582 in acidrip "Crop detection fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] jdong, sure i'll take a look, one sec [01:34] jdong, i have no issue with the upload but i'm gonna do it a tad diffrent === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-96-133.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] instead of patching the source directly i'm gonna make it a dpatch ( as thats what the package uses already ) [01:35] jdong, ^^ === givre [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-85-156.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Mirrado [n=Mirrado@20150036073.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirrado [n=Mirrado@20150036073.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] imbrandon: sure, that sounds good [01:49] imbrandon: I had bddebian do another one-liner patch earlier, and he just patched the source [01:49] so I was going by his example :D === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] hehe jdong no worries, depends on the package, if there is a patch system in place the prefered method is to use it rather than patching the source [01:52] imbrandon: one of these days I'll take the time to read up on dpatch.... [01:52] so the one bddebian did earlier might have been correct [01:52] for that package === redguy [n=mati@acq161.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] meh, I doubt a new upstream release of acidrip is coming anytime soon anyway [01:53] :) [01:54] well it makes it easy to send upstearm too, and if it will be a while untill the new version all the better as the longer it is the more likely you'll forget the changes and a patch is easy to isolate ;) [01:54] anyhow no worries, i already did it, just was letting ya know ;) === cahuez [i=huezosta@nat/hp/x-402e9192f52f619f] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] hiya there; looking for re-config the xorg server.. [01:59] cahuez, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but #ubuntu is for support [02:01] or #kubuntu or #xubuntu ;) [02:01] you mean this is the right place for troubleshooting..? :) [02:01] ;) [02:02] cahuez: this is NOT the right place for troubleshooting [02:02] no this is the right place for package management of the universe repo [02:02] #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu are for troubleshooting cahuez [02:02] i see, let me move ahead there, thanks nth.. [02:03] ;-) === xopher [n=xopher@dyn226-120.lpok.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-123-144.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awbassett [n=andrew@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] could anyone have a look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scite/+bug/61033 ? if a newer scite is not put in edgy (or a patch added) tabs won't work at all in it... [02:15] Malone bug 61033 in scite "Tabs don't function properly under edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@dyn226-120.lpok.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lophyte [n=dsulliva@Toronto-HSE-ppp3879871.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] ok jdong uploaded === givre [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-85-156.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] I have a nice Usplash theme that I think would make good universe material [02:49] (for edgy) === Arr0gance [n=aks@toronto-hs-216-138-192-87.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Viper550, we are in universe freeze atm , you are more than welcome to file UFe though [02:51] url is in the topic [02:51] bbiab [02:52] I meant for after the freez [02:52] the freeze lasts until release [02:52] ahh ok , sure, get it all ready and remind us about decembe then [02:52] uh oh... [02:52] december* [02:52] at which point the distro is properly frozen [02:52] and only critical things get put into updates [02:53] heya ajmitch [02:53] hi [02:53] foooooooood [02:54] if you are wondering, it's this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46645 (I ported Dapper's usplash theme to Edgy) === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Viper550 [n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Just] === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11fata0.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-123-144.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awbassett [n=andrew@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] good evening [03:57] Hey Toadstool. [03:57] hey Fujitsu [04:00] Heya Toadstool, Fujitsu [04:00] heya bddebian and Toadstool [04:00] Fujitsu: Fixed all Universe bugs yet? :) [04:00] Heya imbrandon [04:02] hey imbrandon, bddebian === CarlFK [n=carl@c-24-13-53-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool 1 - Broadcom 1... [04:06] Doh [04:06] :) [04:08] bddebian, not quite :P === givre [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-85-156.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:10] I need to squash some bugs to relax or I am going to throw my laptop through the window [04:10] Squashing bugs is relaxing? Since when? :) [04:10] hehe === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-235-141.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121h77.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@dedibox1.famille-corbier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] hi all [04:38] Hi zakame. [04:40] Heya zakame [04:40] hey zakame === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] what is the current procedure for syncing a new version from debian now (no upstream change)? [04:43] I am talking about bug #63548 [04:43] Malone bug 63548 in bandwidthd "Please update to the latest version from Debian Unstable - Edgys -6 version is miserably broken." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63548 [04:43] minghua: Unless something has changed you need to request a UVF exception on Launchpad with the appropriate details [04:44] bddebian: even there is no upstream changes (only a -6 to -9 Debian version bump) [04:44] ? [04:44] minghua, just a normal sync request. [04:44] Oh, if it's just a release bump no, just a sync request, sorry [04:45] okay, cool, I'll do that then, thanks bddebian and Fujitsu [04:45] slomo subscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors which completely confused me === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:54] eww, upstream tarball with autom4te.cache/ directory... [04:56] Urgh, minghua. Please keep this channel friendly. That's just not good. [04:56] heh [04:56] Fujitsu: Finish up that azureus yet? ;-P [04:56] You little. [04:56] Little? heh, I wish, I'm a fat old bastard :'-( [04:57] :-) [04:57] We've got 1.5 months to nominate somebody to do Azureus next cycle... [04:57] Hrm... === Toadstool runs away [04:58] hehe === Fujitsu pulls Toadstool. [04:59] Fujitsu: You are serious? I apologize if I offended anyone. But which part is not friendly? [04:59] Back here! [04:59] minghua, that bit about autom4te.cache being in the upstream tarball :P [04:59] That's just bad bad bad :P [04:59] Not serious, no. [05:00] Fujitsu: oh I see. so it's okay for me to report a bug about that autom4te.cache in upstream tarball (it's a cvs snapshot), isn't it? [05:00] I am just confused :-) [05:01] you see, English is not my first language [05:01] I don't think it should be there, no. That's not ideal. [05:01] minghua, aha, that'd do it. === superm1 [n=superm1@74.129.231.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] Fujitsu: I run too fast :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] Heya Hobbsee [05:04] everybody hide ! :) === imbrandon is afk [05:05] hey bddebian [05:05] indeed! === Hobbsee waves her long pointy stick of doom around [05:05] hi Hobbsee [05:06] hey Toadstool [05:06] Hobbsee!! [05:06] Fujitsu! [05:06] whoop the AU crew is wakin up [05:07] ;) [05:07] it's 1pm :P === Hobbsee has just been to 4 hours of lectures === Hobbsee eyerolls [05:08] my exam timetable is truly evil [05:08] haha [05:08] glad i didnt apply for sponsorship, looking at this [05:08] MATH136 - Mathematics IB Wednesday 15 November 13:50 3 hrs [05:08] ELEC166 - Introduction to Electronic Systems Thursday 16 November 13:50 3 hrs [05:08] COMP165 - Fundamentals of Computer Science (Advanced) Tuesday 21 November 09:20 3 hrs [05:08] PHYS143 - Physics IB Tuesday 21 November 13:50 3 hrs [05:09] heh [05:09] hey imbrandon [05:09] hum speaking of we should hear about that i think [05:09] heya superm1 [05:10] Hobbsee: wow! fun :p [05:10] indeed. [05:10] you going to need to open a UVFe for that patch I left for myth? Or should the normal process of just leaving a debdiff suffice? [05:11] superm1: bug number? [05:11] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/62909 [05:11] Malone bug 62909 in mythtv "MythTV Frontend 0.20-0.0ubuntu2 not compiled with MMX enabled" [Undecided,Confirmed] [05:11] superm1, nah the debdiff is fine, i'll upload it here in a few minutes [05:11] mkay sweet [05:12] superm1: UVFe is for new upstream versions, no need to ask for an exception when it's just a tiny patch ;) [05:12] okay wasnt too sure [05:12] okay well i'm gonna cut out early tonite. got my flight back early tomorrow morning. imbrandon, see you tomrorow at the CC meeting right? [05:13] yup yup superm1 ;) [05:13] okay night then all :) [05:14] g'night === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121a7c.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua wonders where the bug mail for "Ubuntu Sponsors for universe" goes [05:20] to the people in the team of sponsors [05:20] minghua: to the people on the team [05:21] everybody? I see. thanks [05:21] yea everyone on the team [05:21] ( as with any LP team afaik ) [05:21] (and I can't unsubscribe it from a bug because I am not a member) [05:22] you should be able to [05:22] i thought [05:22] so god bless those with email filters [05:22] what bug ? [05:22] imbrandon: bug #63578 [05:22] Malone bug 63578 in ubiquity "detects two harddisks, but can only choose one harddisk in "manually edit partition table"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63578 [05:23] and if anyone can show me how to unsubscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors, I'll appreciate that too [05:23] ubuntu sponsors isnt subscribed to that bug [05:23] universe* [05:24] oops [05:24] bug #63548 instead [05:24] Malone bug 63548 in bandwidthd "Please sync bandwidthd (universe) 2.0.1+cvs20050208-9 from Debian (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63548 [05:24] imbrandon: sorry [05:24] no /me looks [05:24] s/no/np [05:24] ajmitch: and I think motu-science's bug mail goes to the list instead of everyone on the team [05:25] done: "Ubuntu Sponsors for universe has been unsubscribed from this bug." === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] minghua, yeah, I'm not sure how that works... LP is a strange beast. [05:34] indeed. I never tries to understand LP === minghua goes home [05:34] be back soon [05:34] Bye [05:34] bye [05:42] Hey MOTUs. [05:45] Hi TheMuso. [05:49] heya TheMuso [05:49] Hey imbrandon. [05:49] How goes it? [05:51] good good, just munchin ;) [05:51] tollin on LP a bit [05:51] trollin' [05:51] heh === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-129-17.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua is back :-) [05:55] hm [05:55] wb ajmitch [05:55] thanks [05:55] I guess DSL went away for a few minutes [05:55] heh [05:56] wb minghua [05:57] hi zakame, haven't seen you for quite a while [06:01] hmm, yahoo apparently doesn't like the LP bug mail from myself, and throws them in spam folder frequently [06:01] heh [06:16] Yay! NZer is back in -devel! [06:19] If you'd asked we could have thrown in another NZer? :) [06:19] now Fujitsu, aren't you meant to be at TAFE? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121a7c.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:27] Plug, not for 3.5 hours. [06:28] Right. Crazy timezones. :) === jldugger [n=jldugger@adsl-71-149-200-224.dsl.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] Fujitsu: NZer in devel? we have some of them? [06:48] ajmitch, that troll. [06:48] oh fun [06:50] does the wiki have a log of who deletes or moves pages? [06:51] wiki emails probably do === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] ajmitch, hum did canonical send out the emails about the dev summit ? ( just makin sure my spam filter dident catch it ) [07:05] or are they late [07:06] imbrandon: no idea [07:06] cuz someone appears to have moved and or deleted the LaptopTestingTeam page, but I can't find any record of it === imbrandon would have figured he would have atleaste got a no if that was the case [07:06] jldugger: I'll look [07:07] jldugger: last change I see on it was yours, and that was no move/delete [07:08] hum it does seem to be gone === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] ajmitch / jldugger : looks like there might be a python / database problem on the wiki atm ( w.r.t. the laptoptestingteam page ) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-October/003320.html === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aboe [n=aboe@tb-c-76ec.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@194.50.115.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] ok, well as long as i didnt break it === mayday_jay [n=metal_ja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BazziR [n=Bastian@p50803A85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marsmensch [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-122-023.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=metal_ja@maydayjay.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === selinuxium_ [n=selinium@82-34-235-84.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] morning === selinuxium_ [n=selinium@82-34-235-84.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:02] hey phanatic [09:02] hey Hobbsee === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@127.225-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] === tomv [n=tv@87.230.125.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] Hi. I'm kind of concerned about the ubuntu universe versions of some packages I maintain for Debian. Is there someone in the MOTU team who wants to look at libaqbanking and libchipcard2? [09:41] what problems are there? I see they're a few versions behind in edgy, but we've hit freeze time now - need to get approval to update [09:47] ajmitch: the problems are a couple of Debian bugs ranging from important to RC, a memory leak, problems with accessing a class of USB chipcard readers and several bugs that concerning iTAN-based online banking. [09:49] sounds reasonable, can you look at the last wiki page in the topic & file bugs about these? I'd hate to ship your packages with RC bugs [09:49] ajmitch: The problem is that these bugs, while no RC in the Debian sense (makes packages useless for everyone), make the packages completely dysfunctional for people affected, often with opaque error messages. [09:50] that's still serious enough to get them into edgy [09:51] & we tend to trust the debian maintainer's word on this [09:51] ajmitch: Sorry, but I do believe that unless someone really wants online banking in edgy and will subscribe to the upstream mailing list, this project is doomed to fail. [09:51] ajmitch: That's very nice, but I'm not that trustworthy. :) [09:51] 'this project' being? [09:51] I've seen some of your packaging :) [09:51] The project "having consistently good packages is Ubuntu". [09:51] s/seen/inherited/ [09:52] Hey, I'm only responsible for the diff. :) [09:52] (the interdiff, that is...) [09:53] ajmitch: Really, I'm not in a too good position to summarize all problems either, because I don't have a lot of bank accounts to transfer money around. :) [09:53] hehe [09:53] i wouldn't mind online banking, but i think my bank does === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio__ [n=tonio@94.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] god bless america [09:53] trying to track bugs in all the universe packages is always a challenge, true [09:54] ajmitch: and I'm not envying you for the task, either... [09:54] tomv: just join us :) [09:55] ajmitch: OK, so I can try to make the changelog of upstream available in a more ready format, they're pretty good at documenting their fixes. [09:56] we need to get that list of bugs that are closed in debian & waiting for us to grab - keybuk did generate them at some point [09:56] Burgundavia: ping [09:56] ajmitch: I don't want to make Ubuntu Debian. Whatever that means. [09:56] layers & layers of bureaucracy? [09:56] ajmitch: Every package cared for. :) [09:56] :p [09:56] ajmitch: pong [09:57] heh, debian has MIA maintainers as well [09:57] ajmitch: those lists are still available [09:57] Burgundavia: is there some way you can redirect those MoM reports by keybuk? [09:57] yes, manually [09:57] so we have to pester keybuk to get him to change the address? [09:57] ajmitch: OK, I'll be off filing ubuntu bugs. :) [09:57] I'd rather not write my own code to grab the BTS [09:58] tomv: thanks very much :) [09:58] ajmitch: no, I can redirect large numbers in a single batch [09:59] Burgundavia: maybe to universe-bugs or similar [09:59] I know this was discussed briefly [09:59] ah, keybuk is alive as well [09:59] yes, it was discussed recently === givre [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-85-156.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] ajmitch: sorry, you thanked me too early. It's not going to happen after all. Blame it all on launchpad. I thought, well, if you can do it via mail, but they want to make me complete my launchpad profile before that... [10:15] surely not? [10:17] no. I'll just read a book instead. Hopefully, it's not good, so I can complain. === ajmitch sighs === jldugger attempts to imagine what bug reports would look like if anonymous emails were accepted [10:28] C14LIS! BUY NOW === tseng sighs. === berent [n=berent@59.144.63.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] can anyone tell me how to upgrade to dapper - i have currently 2.6.12 [10:43] anyone here [10:43] berent, please ask on #ubuntu [10:43] ok === givr1 [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-51-208.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra_ [n=zdra@68.240-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] Burgundavia: so where in the world are you this week? :) [11:05] hi azeem [11:05] ajmitch: at home [11:05] heya [11:06] Burgundavia: great, how long were you out on the road? [11:06] a week [11:06] off to boston at the end of this week === ajmitch is somewhat envious [11:07] of the boston trip, not the rest [11:08] hehe [11:08] hey imbrandon [11:09] up early? [11:09] yea a bit [11:09] went to sleep early ;) [11:09] I was worried you were about to reply 'up late' instead [11:09] hahaha [11:09] nah , not /this/ time [11:09] hehe === ajmitch has no plans to stay up till 2AM doing ubuntu again tonight [11:10] lol [11:11] heya gnome deity , i have a quick question ( probably should be support but its slow in here shhhh ) can i make the clock in the gnome pannel show me times for other timezones when i hove the mouse over it ( i got used to this in KDE ) [11:11] hover* [11:11] I doubt it [11:11] that would be a 'feature' [11:11] heh [11:12] imbrandon: Shhh, if you talk about the clock applet, they'll remove it [11:12] hahaha [11:12] ok so umm how do you all easily check times in other zones ? [11:13] or do you hehe [11:13] "you all" as in normal gnome users [11:13] I always convert in my head :) [11:13] imbrandon: like so: TZ=Europe/London date [11:13] heh ok, figures ;) === imbrandon is glad a certain thread has all but died on -devel [11:15] imbrandon: Hah, try debian-devel sometime [11:15] lol no thanks [11:16] thats one of the main reasons i will probably never be a DD [11:16] sadly [11:17] you don't have to read that === Hobbsee giggles at the backscroll [11:17] oh, Hobbsee is here [11:17] ajmitch: indeed [11:17] heh, heya Hobbsee [11:17] good reason not to use gnome [11:17] then again, if i talk about gnome, will they remove it too? [11:17] no [11:17] :P [11:18] awww [11:18] Hobbsee, yea but since horatio died and my laptop was already loaded with gnome i dident want to reinstall [11:18] they'll just laugh at you [11:18] ajmitch: they seem to do that anyway, so... [11:18] imbrandon: why would you reinstall? [11:18] well install -kubuntu-desktop and remove gnome [11:18] etc etc etc [11:18] not /really/ "reinstall" link windows [11:18] like* [11:19] gives me a nice view of the "other side" so when i get kde back i'll love it that much more ;) [11:19] sides gnome runs on my lappy faster ;) [11:19] shhhh i dident say that [11:20] no surprise [11:20] it lacks a few minor things i'm used to , but nothing major ( little stuff like the clock etc ) [11:21] and i'm sure most of it is i just dont have it 100% configured the way i would like yet [11:22] i do have it KDEized alot ( as in one pannel at the bottom, the application menus replaced with the main menu , pannel applet placings etc ) [11:22] heh [11:22] we chased her away again [11:22] heh [11:26] heh === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] i guess not for long [11:28] imbrandon: since you tweak your KDE a lot, GNOME probably doesn't suit you after all [11:28] imbrandon: as for the clock thing, I am not aware there's anyway to do that === Hobbsee dies of shock [11:29] minghua, very true, there isnt alot of the "options" i'm used to , but for simplisity, its ok i guess === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] imbrandon: but if you want to poke hidden features of gnome stuff, install gconf-editor and look at those cryptic values [11:29] hi Yagisan [11:29] G'day ajmitch [11:30] hehe minghua maybe someday , that wont be this morning though , /me whinces at the thought of the windows registry ( gconf editor ) [11:31] hey, gconf-editor still has fewever things to click than KDE preference dialog :-P [11:31] hahahaa === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] yea but "simple" in some cases is "simply not what i need it to do" [11:32] ;) [11:32] true, gnome is definitely not for everybody [11:32] but alas it is a good DE just not good for _me_ ;) [11:32] so many bugs to try & keep up with... [11:32] fortunately I like it very much [11:32] ;) [11:33] COOL! I have a fully working edgy again! [11:33] hm, *crap* === NthDegree [n=NthDegre@194-247-238-128.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] ajmitch, ? [11:33] seems that my power supply fan is not spinning [11:33] Hobbsee, yay \o/ [11:34] kaboomy in not long then ajmitch [11:34] ajmitch, ouch , get it fixed asap so you dont end up like me heh [11:34] it's a fairly new power supply, too [11:34] not good [11:34] yeah we all like Hobbsee don''t we ;) [11:34] Hobbsee: you broke kde again? [11:35] ajmitch: X broke from -8-generic onwards. was the toshiba hotkeys [11:35] fun [11:35] wow [11:35] indeed [11:35] Hobbsee: How did that cause problems? [11:35] speaking of X is aiglx built into the edgy X ? as in i just need to load compix/beryl and go ? [11:35] ajmitch, ^^ [11:36] imbrandon: yes, what drivers do you use? [11:36] this lappy has an ati card [11:36] hm, inside of my case is fairly warm [11:36] ajmitch, ouch , icepacks [11:36]