[12:01] <klos__> anyone here uses cairo-dock
[12:02] <micael71> ladydoor many tor privoxy
[12:02] <ladydoor> micael71: are you sure it's a graphical program and not a daemon or something?
[12:02] <torchie> hmm
[12:03] <Genix> anyone have compiz and xgl working on amd64?
[12:03] <torchie> for some reason nobody seems to know what the problem is when it says "failed to allocate mem resource" after "uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."
[12:03] <pocholo> hey
[12:03] <micael71> it is a grafic in xp
[12:03] <birdfish> Does anyone have a 6.06 server and wouldn't mind e-mailing me their ssl.conf file from the apache2/mods-available directory?  I accidentally overwrote mine while creating a symlink =/
[12:04] <ladydoor> micael71: so is rar
[12:04] <pocholo> como configuro el wifi?
[12:04] <georgy_> !it
[12:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:04] <sureshot> i cant get an answer in the #berly or the #aiglx or #xgl channel can someone tell me if beryl is compatiable to dapper drake
[12:04] <ladydoor> torchie: i get the same error, but then it proceeds to boot.
[12:04] <w30> I have a printserver on 192.169.1.250(ipp protocol) and I cna print but the job never finishes (but it prints from the printer). I have to cancel the job by hand. What do I need in my cupsd.conf to make the printer tell cups on my box that the printing took place?
[12:04] <micael71> ladydoor ok i will see if it is working
[12:04] <ladydoor> micael71: cool.
[12:04] <stu_> ah, im trying to use 32bit drivers in 64bit - doh
[12:04] <kyja> ADVISE: those of you with dule core proccessors.http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_enable_Multicore_Support    What a difference it makes !!
[12:05] <godtvisk1n> When attempting to install Windows XP through VMware in linux, the windows install says it cannot find any harddrives. What should I do?
[12:05] <torchie> "PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource"
[12:05] <torchie> hmm
[12:05] <pocholo> who config the wifi conex
[12:05] <torchie> does that have anything to do with the ram?
[12:05] <ladydoor> kyja: "advice" is a noun. "advise" is a verb.
[12:05] <Agrajag> godtvisk1n: did you add a hard disk to the virtual machine?
[12:06] <kyja> lol thx ladydoor
[12:06] <ladydoor> kyja: sorry.
[12:06] <Agrajag> godtvisk1n: and if so, is it SCSI or IDE?
[12:06] <sureshot> i cant get an answer in the #berly or the #aiglx or #xgl channel can someone tell me if beryl is compatiable to dapper drake
[12:06] <kyja> not at all a problem ladydoor ;-
[12:06] <kyja> )
[12:06] <godtvisk1n> Agrajag: i think i did, it says SCSI. see this screenshot: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7306/vmharddiskcx6.png
[12:06] <Agrajag> godtvisk1n: remove that disk, and add an IDE disk.
[12:07] <Agrajag> I don't think the XP installer knows what to do with the SCSI controll that VMware virtualizes.
[12:07] <collier> how many is soup?
[12:07] <godtvisk1n> Aidamina: or i should install an IDE?
[12:07] <ladydoor> sureshot: http://swik.net/beryl+dapper
[12:07] <ladydoor> sureshot: google is your friend.
[12:08] <birdfish> No one has a 6.06 server?
[12:08] <sureshot> dont have very good luck with google ladydoor but thanks for your help been working on this all day and trying to find answers i am a newbi and strugle an strugle thanks anyway
[12:09] <godtvisk1n> Agrajag: ok, thank you
[12:09] <ANTDx1> Hi guys
[12:09] <kbee> birdfish: got in late on your question you want 6.06 server is that it
[12:09] <ladydoor> sureshot: it's always good to look. i should mention that this was the *first result* that came up.
[12:10] <ANTDx1> I have sort of a large problem.  Ubuntu 6.06 is not booting.  It starts, but then it hangs during the stage when it loads the hardware components.
[12:10] <sureshot> k
[12:10] <Avagant> Time to burn a new cd, ANTD.
[12:10] <Avagant> Haha
[12:10] <Avagant> These burned cd's don't last very long.
[12:10] <godtvisk1n> Agrajag: i don't see any options to add an IDE disk
[12:10] <Avagant> I've had to reinstall ubuntu 3 times, and each time it gets slower and slower.
[12:10] <ANTDx1> Avagant, I have it installed on a partition.
[12:10] <godtvisk1n> Agrajag: never mind
[12:10] <Avagant> Hmms.
[12:11] <Agrajag> godtvisk1n: o hok
[12:11] <Genix> anyone have compiz and xgl working on amd64?
[12:11] <bm0nk> Can i paste a link to my post on ubuntu forums here by any chance???
[12:11] <georgy_> ANTDx1, : a laptop ?
[12:11] <Avagant> As long as it is ubuntu related, I guess they wouldn't see a problem with it.
[12:11] <we2by> Genix, yes, running 32bit ubuntu
[12:11] <we2by> it is now called beryl
[12:11] <ANTDx1> It has been working.  One item of note: the light corresponding to my broadcom wireless card, which I just recently got to work, keeps blinking when it stalls during boot.
[12:11] <kbee> bm0nk: why not as long as ubuntu related
[12:11] <ANTDx1> georgy_, yes.
[12:11] <Genix> we2by i meant on 64 ubuntu
[12:11] <bm0nk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270084
[12:11] <bm0nk> thanks
[12:12] <georgy_> ANTDx1, : wich one
[12:12] <ANTDx1> I think it's 4318...i can't remember the exact one.  The laptop is an HP zv6000
[12:12] <ladydoor> bm0nk: did you do sudo ndiswrapper -m
[12:12] <ladydoor> ?
[12:13] <ladydoor> bm0nk: also, you're not using the one from the repos? it's functional.
[12:13] <Genix> seems like i can't compile anything on x64
[12:13] <bm0nk> ladydoor : havent done the 1st...and....umm...
[12:13] <ladydoor> Genix: did you install build-essential?
[12:13] <kitche> ANTDx1: it keeps blinking due to trying to get an ip address most likely
[12:13] <bm0nk> i just thought the most recent version would have been better
[12:13] <ladydoor> bm0nk: after you do the sudo ndiswrapper -m, try running sudo ifup wlan0
[12:14] <ladydoor> bm0nk: it might be, i don't know.
[12:14] <ANTDx1> Why would it be doing that?  I've only used wired connection on my laptop with Ubuntu
[12:14] <bm0nk> ladydoor thanks
[12:14] <bm0nk> ill look
[12:14] <ladydoor> bm0nk: cool.
[12:14] <sureshot> i guess beryl is not compatible to ati cards
[12:15] <kitche> sureshot sure it is
[12:15] <LilRayRay> hi all, I am having trouble installing ndiswrapper
[12:15] <bm0nk> ladydoor : modprobe config already contains alias directive
[12:15] <ANTDx1> And more importantly, how can I tell my wireless card not to try to get an IP during boot?
[12:15] <sureshot> i will try google again kitche but i keep comeing up with nvidia and nothing for ati
[12:15] <[arcanux] > Hi, I'm trying to put the fonts in the "Applications", "Places"..etc menus smaller, but when I go to Font Preferences and change them the changes don't have any effect in the menus, can anybody help me ?
[12:16] <Genix> ladydoor: what is build essential?
[12:16] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:16] <ladydoor> !build-essential
[12:16] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:16] <almimoni> i install php & apache server but php dosnt work what i should to do in file: /usr/share/php5/php.ini-dist
[12:16] <LilRayRay> I unzip the ndiswrapper tar and then I type "make uninstall" like it says and I get an error
[12:16] <ladydoor> bm0nk: hmmmm...perhaps in #ndiswrapper they can help?
[12:16] <Flannel> !tell almimoni about lamp
[12:17] <ladydoor> LilRayRay: you need to do ./configure first...it's important to read INSTALL & README
[12:17] <LilRayRay> there is a channel?
[12:17] <ladydoor> LilRayRay: that's why theyr'e in all caps
[12:17] <sureshot> kitche i me miffed ust say i am sorry the other channels i got nothing but smart remarks and such i dont mean to be mean here sorry if i have sounded a littl
[12:17] <kitche> LilRayRay: you trying to install it or uninstall since make uninstall uninstalls it after you compile it
[12:17] <almimoni> thanx
[12:17] <bm0nk> ladydoor : lol i didnt even think to go there
[12:17] <ladydoor> bm0nk: haha...common problem
[12:17] <sureshot> kitche i must say i am sorry the other channels i got nothing but smart remarks and such i dont mean to be mean here sorry if i have sounded a little miffed
[12:17] <sureshot> thare
[12:17] <kitche> sureshot: well I know it works with ati, since it's the same setup pretty much just the driver is different
[12:18] <LilRayRay> hmm, the install instructions that came with it arent very good
[12:18] <micael71> ladydoor i think i got the privoxy to work but not tor
[12:18] <bm0nk> ladydoor : feel like an idiot now :P
[12:18] <ladydoor> LilRayRay: right...but you can't skip steps
[12:18] <ladydoor> bm0nk: nah
[12:18] <kitche> sureshot: I haven't used beryl since they changed the name but I know people that use ati with it
[12:18] <ANTDx1> Does anyone have any advice for how I can get my wireless card to quit looking for an IP on boot?
[12:18] <LilRayRay> there wasnt a "./configure" step in it
[12:18] <zaxor> I am thinking about trying a different video driver for this laptop. I want to backup what ever i can so i can restore my old drivers If the new driver does not work . how would i do this?
[12:18] <ladydoor> micael71: hmmmm...i don't actually know about setting up tor, sorry
[12:18] <kitche> ANTDx1: yes disable the card
[12:18] <ANTDx1> how do I do that during boot?
[12:19] <ladydoor> ANTDx1: install BUM, the boot-up manager.
[12:19] <seatouch> !xvid
[12:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:19] <ladydoor> ANTDx1: that'll allow you to edit what runs at boot
[12:19] <sureshot> thanks kitche again just apologizing for attitude this is a nice channel the others if you are lucky enough to get an answer its like buy better hardware
[12:19] <ladydoor> ANTDx1: but BE CAREFUL.
[12:19] <georgy_> ANTDx1, : sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces and uncomment the line with ethX auto
[12:19] <kitche> zacor: just backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:19] <ANTDx1> alright
[12:19] <ANTDx1> so how do i get into my system now
[12:19] <ANTDx1> because right now I'm on my windows partition
[12:20] <[arcanux] > How can I change the font size of the folders in /home ?
[12:20] <xenoNfluX> anyone familiar with setting up phpMyAdmin?
[12:20] <kitche> ANTDx1: you have to reboot but if it freezes you have to chroot into the system chroot means change root
[12:20] <zaxor> kitche ok is there a command to back it up? also when i want to revert back to my old driver what command would i  use?
[12:21] <Flannel> zaxor: just copy it, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old or whatever
[12:21] <kitche> zaxor: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak will back it up and you do the opposite to get the config back
[12:21] <Flannel> zaxor: and then to revert you'd just copy it back
[12:21] <ANTDx1> how do I do chroot?  I'm sort of a newbie to Ubuntu and Linux as a whole
[12:21] <Spy> does anyone can help me please ? ... Since i installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but worked with Live CD.
[12:21] <georgy_> ANTDx1, : disable your wifi in the bios ?
[12:22] <ANTDx1> you can do that?
[12:22] <kitche> ANTDx1: is your card pcmcia?
[12:22] <ANTDx1> I believe so
[12:22] <w30> cupsd keeps changing my owner of error_log from lpadmin to lp and I need the file to be owned by lpadmin. How do I get cupsd to not change it or to change it to lpadmin?
[12:22] <su1ka> who can help me some ?
[12:23] <su1ka> about torrent and freebsd ?
[12:23] <stu_> what window manager does xfce use? my beryl just went tits up and I cant do anything
[12:23] <Flannel> su1ka: er, what?  this is #ubuntu
[12:23] <kitche> ANTDx1: this is a desktop or a notebook by chance since I want to make sure that you get the right instructions
[12:23] <oxEz> Hi, I plan to try Edgy Eft this week, and I wonder if using my current kernel's config (on gentoo, kernel-2.6.18), I could compile my kernel on ubuntu without any trouble? (I only have the minimum stuff in my .config).. I'm asking since I don't know if ubuntu requires 'x' module or 'y' one..
[12:23] <ANTDx1> Notebook.
[12:23] <ANTDx1> HP Pavilion zv6000
[12:23] <kitche> stu_: xfce uses xfwm you have to disable that to use beryl
[12:23] <Flannel> !tell oxEz about kernel
[12:24] <Flannel> oxEz: that's for breezy, but edgy should be same steps, just different versions
[12:24] <kitche> NTDx1: ok so it's a pcmcia most likely you can remove the card if it's a pcmcia
[12:25] <ANTDx1> disable it on bios, you mean?
[12:25] <kitche> ANTDx1: you can if you have that option
[12:25] <ANTDx1> I'll try that and see what happens
[12:25] <oxEz> Flannel: I see, thanks
[12:26] <ja1> can you recommend any package suitable for ISPs. Bandwidth filtering, trafic counting, user accounts etc ?
[12:26] <Hobo_Joe> Sorry can anyone point me to the Ubuntu Channel?
[12:26] <kitche> ANTDx1: but if it's pcmcia you can just remove it but from what you said it's built in
[12:26] <oxEz> Flannel: Would it work if I do it the manual way, make && make modules_install ?
[12:26] <Hobo_Joe> Server channel*?
[12:26] <ANTDx1> oh it is built in i think
[12:26] <ANTDx1> i cant remove it
[12:26] <stu_> #ubuntu-server
[12:26] <stu_> ^ double click that
[12:26] <Flannel> oxEz: I don't see why not
[12:26] <ANTDx1> well i know its built in
[12:27] <w30> What's the owner and group of /var/log/cups/error_log supposed to be?
[12:27] <ANTDx1> anyway, I'm going to try disabling it in the bios and see if that can be done
[12:27] <kitche> ANTDx1: ok there should be an option in your bios then
[12:27] <oxEz> Flannel: that was the goal of my visit here.. since I know ubuntu loads a lot of things at boot time, I was wondering if I needed any *special* thing for ubuntu to enable in .config
[12:27] <maccam94> hmmm... i've got no sound :-(. sis7012, modules snd_intel8x0 and snd_ac97_codec are loaded, all the mixer levels are maxed
[12:28] <maccam94> esd is running
[12:28] <Genix> anyone know how to get xchat working on a 64 bit install?
[12:28] <kitche> oxEz: it loads everything as a module so more people can use it without them compiling a kernel themselves
[12:28] <Flannel> Genix: there shouldn't be anything special to get working
[12:28] <w30> Genix, mine just works after I installed it.
[12:28] <stu_> whats the name of hte file you edit for network config?
[12:29] <Genix> i try to configure it and i get errors
[12:29] <stu_> define IP adresses etc
[12:29] <oxEz> kitche: Alright, so I guess it loads what was compiled as module, so I could be OK with my minimal kernel :]  thanks
[12:29] <Flannel> Genix: what errors?
[12:29] <Flannel> Genix: and, why not just use the one in the repositories?
[12:29] <Genix> hmm
[12:29] <Genix> didn't see one in there
[12:30] <Flannel> Genix: in main is xchat-gnome, universe has plain xchat
[12:30] <kitche> stu_: you meant he text file since there is many ways to do what you want in ubuntu the most common one is though the gui
[12:30] <main2> when i start tightvncserver with sudo, i still see a access denied error in my log file (it wont open the desktop) access to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Access Denied
[12:30] <main2> am i overlooking something, or what am i doing wrong? :)
[12:30] <Genix> Flannel: thank you
[12:30] <collier_> Ok Im back
[12:30] <collier_> I need help with this now
[12:31] <markc> is it possible to use nvidia drivers with edgy yet ?
[12:31] <georgy_> maccam94,  : try that : rmmod snd-intel8x0, then modprobe snd-intel8x0m, then rmmod snd-intel8x0 and last thing modprobe snd-intel 8x0. I have the same soundcard and sometimes i have to do this to get sound
[12:31] <kitche> collier_: help with what?
[12:31] <Flannel> markc: #ubuntu+1 but, I believe so
[12:31] <maccam94> georgy_: k, i'll give it a try
[12:31] <collier_> Umm java
[12:31] <collier_> I installed it
[12:31] <markc> Flannel: than you
[12:31] <collier_> Now I need to enable it
[12:31] <kitche> collier_: ok you want the java-plugin?
[12:32] <georgy_> maccam94, : third command rmmod snd-intel8x0m
[12:32] <collier_> no I want java to work so I can run frostwire
[12:32] <Flannel> collier_: enable it?  once you install the package it enables itself
[12:32] <maccam94> georgy_: ERROR: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use
[12:32] <collier_> well frostwire dont work
[12:32] <collier_> it needs java still
[12:32] <w30> can somebody tell me what the group and owner of their /va/log/cups/error_log is?
[12:32] <maccam94> !google ubuntu guide frostwire
[12:32] <kitche> collier_: ok you probably have to add the java path to your $PATH
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google ubuntu guide frostwire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <w30> can somebody tell me what the group and owner of their /var/log/cups/error_log is?
[12:32] <Flannel> !tell collier_ about frostwire
[12:32] <tRSS> hey guys! quick question. i reinstalled winxp. grub was lost, so I reinstalled grub on mbr. now winxp boots fine, but when i boot ubuntu, i get this error: "error 15: file not found"
[12:33] <collier_> kitche: how do I do that
[12:33] <kitche> !frostwire > kitche
[12:33] <Avagant> !xmms > kitche
[12:33] <Shatter> I just install ubuntu and it's overwhelming me.
[12:33] <cello_rasp> any icewm users can help me get the wallpaper working? i have it referred to in proferences file (full path) but the jpg still doesnt show :|
[12:33] <tRSS> i have tried the wiki page about restoring ubuntu after winxp install
[12:33] <kitche> umm Avagant?
[12:33] <collier_> I need to type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:33] <Avagant> Wait.
[12:33] <Avagant> No nicotine is better.
[12:33] <Flannel> tRSS: did winXP overwrite your boot partition, by any chance?
[12:33] <Avagant> Nicotine is alot better.
[12:33] <Avagant> <3 soulseek.
[12:34] <cyber_brain_mfkg> how to setup wine to use 3d (because when i start game in 3d mod it says that theres no 3d drivers - but i've installed glx for nvidia)
[12:34] <cyber_brain_mfkg> :(
[12:34] <Flannel> cello_rasp: you might try #icewm
[12:34] <tRSS> Flannel: win xp erased grub from mbr. , so I reinstalled it on mbr
[12:34] <cello_rasp> thanks Flannel
[12:34] <kitche> collier_: you have to do sudo update-alternatives --config java then select the alternative that includes "sun" in the name.
[12:34] <collier_> When I type sudo update-alternatives --config java it tells me to enter my pass I do and I get bash: mypassword: command not found
[12:35] <zaxor> whats the name of the dri ati driver? im trying to figure out how to install it
[12:35] <tRSS> Flannel: this has worked for me in the past, but for some reason or another, I am getting this weird error: error 15: file not found
[12:35] <Flannel> tRSS: right, but you still have a /boot/?  oh. did you shuffle harddrives, by an chance?
[12:35] <collier_> kitche why is that?
[12:35] <tRSS> nope. but i have added another hdd
[12:35] <tRSS> just today
[12:36] <tRSS> do you think , that is causing the problem, Flannel?
[12:36] <kitche> collier_: that is odd it shouldn't be doing that
[12:36] <Flannel> tRSS: well, if the HD number has changed for the ubuntu one, then yeah, it'll be looking on hd(0,5) or whatnot, and it won't be there.
[12:36] <zaxor> whats the name of the dri ati driver? im trying to figure out how to install it
[12:36] <kitche> Avagant: but why did you send me information about xmms sicne i just wanted to see what the frostwire help said
[12:37] <Flannel> !tell zaxor about ati
[12:37] <collier_> kitche, what should I do?
[12:37] <tRSS> Flannel: the HDD number can't change, because the HDD I have added today is a slave to the primary (which has Ubuntu)
[12:37] <collier_> oh wait
[12:38] <tRSS> and besides, I can chroot into it from a rescue cd
[12:38] <collier_> ok I got it
[12:38] <Flannel> tRSS: then no, that wouldn't have caused it.  However, error 15 is grub saying it can't find the second stage
[12:38] <collier_> now which one do I choose?
[12:38] <kitche> collier_: you installed sun's java right? you would choose the sun option
[12:38] <collier_> theres 2 with sun
[12:38] <collier_>       3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:38] <collier_>       4        /usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:38] <micael71> ladydoor sorry was away and trying to get it to work
[12:39] <kitche> collier_: ok choose the 3rd one
[12:39] <tRSS> Flannel: this doesn't make sense. hold one, let me tell you what I have in my menu.1st file
[12:39] <micael71> anyone here that have tor and privoxy
[12:39] <blind> My VNC server won't work. I try to connect to it, it says unable to connect. I try to run Xvnc, it says it's running on display 0 -- so why won't it connect?
[12:39] <collier_> it worked :)
[12:39] <collier_> thank you
[12:39] <ANTDx1> Alright
[12:40] <ANTDx1> so I disabled the card using bios and it still got stuck on boot, on the step 'loading manual drivers'
[12:40] <collier_> I have another question
[12:40] <collier_> When I put in my USB
[12:40] <collier_> and I click it under computer
[12:40] <tRSS> Flannel: I think, i see the problem. When I mount the disk ubuntu from a rescue cd, it tells me that ubuntu is on /dev/hda3, but when I do a df, it tells me that /dev/hda2 is mounted on /
[12:40] <collier_> it dont work
[12:40] <blind> collier_: define don't work
[12:40] <mazare3-bomba> hi guys
[12:40] <kitche> collier_: you might have to mount the usb manually
[12:40] <cpk2> !doesnt work
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesnt work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <cpk2> !doesntwork
[12:40] <collier_> how?
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesntwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <blind> lol cpk2
[12:40] <cpk2> awww
[12:40] <godtvisk1n> Hey, I removed a harddrive from my virtual machine in VMware, but it doesn't seem to actually remove it from the disk, because it is still taking up space. How can I permanently remove it?
[12:41] <blind> collier_: what doesn't it do?
[12:41] <cpk2> i forget what it is
[12:41] <kitche> collier_: is your system IDE?
[12:41] <kitche> cpk2 I think it's work
[12:41] <kitche> !work
[12:41] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:41] <collier_> IDE?
[12:41] <blind> he's using a USB drive, kitche
[12:41] <Avagant> Someone say my name?
[12:41] <kitche> blind: I know that but if he has SATA his drives will be different
[12:42] <blind> kitche: oh, didn't know that ;o
[12:42] <collier_> How do I know what I have?
[12:42] <kitche> Avagant: yes I did asked why you sent me info about xmms
[12:42] <mazare3-bomba> I updated my kernel using the software updates program to 2.6.15-27-386 and my dlink dwl 520g is not working with it
[12:42] <Avagant> Oh, I didn't notice you were looking for a p2p.
[12:42] <Avagant> I thought you were looking for a player.
[12:42] <cpk2> i think it usually mounts usb as sda regardless if its sata or not
[12:42] <ANTDx1> kitche: any suggestions as to what to do from here?  I tried disabling the wireless card in bios, and Ubuntu was still trying to use it with ndiswrapper
[12:42] <kitche> cpk2: sda on a SATA will be the hard drive
[12:42] <micael71> !tor
[12:42] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[12:43] <Hobo_Joe> has anyone managed to get ndiswrapper to run on Edgy? using the -10 kernel?
[12:43] <collier_> !tor
[12:43] <kitche> collier_: open up a terminal
[12:43] <collier_> ok
[12:43] <Flannel> Hobo_Joe: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[12:43] <cpk2> kitche: yes, but an IDE hard drive connected via usb mounts as sda as well i am pretty sure
[12:43] <Hobo_Joe> ok
[12:43] <micael71> !privoxy
[12:43] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-5 (dapper), package size 1504 kB, installed size 2852 kB
[12:43] <mazare3-bomba> it gives me a SIOCGIFFLAGS: error no such device
[12:43] <kitche> cpk2: that's usb usb is serial in nature that's why it has sda device
[12:44] <collier_> kitche: I have open a terminal
[12:44] <mazare3-bomba> after updating my kernel my dlink wifi 520g is not working and I get a SIOCGIFFLAGS: error no such device
[12:44] <w30> can somebody tell me what the group and owner of their /var/log/cups/error_log is?
[12:45] <kitche> collier_: ok type in mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 <mountpoint> mount point can be /mnt/usb
[12:45] <kitche> collier_: make sure that /mnt/usb exists first
[12:45] <ANTDx1> Does anyone have any ideas as to how to boot into ubuntu and forcing it to pass the step where it attempts to use the built-in wireless on my system?
[12:45] <Warbo> anyone need help (with something I know)?
[12:45] <Warbo> ANTDx1: Do you know the driver module name? You could blacklist it
[12:46] <georgy_> Warbo : he can't boot into ubuntu
[12:46] <ANTDx1> Warbo: I know it uses ndiswrapper...I think it's like bcm4380 but i'm not sure.  also: i have to boot into it to do that.
[12:46] <w30> Warbo, what's the group name of your /var/log/cups/error_log file?
[12:46] <ANTDx1> If i can boot into it, I don't need to disable it
[12:46] <Warbo> georgy_: It just involves editing a file though. That can be done from DSL or similar
[12:46] <collier_> kitche: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 <mountpoint> mount point can be /mnt/usb <-- what do I put for <mountpoint>
[12:46] <Flannel> w30: root lpadmin
[12:46] <kitche> collier_: can be anything but you can use /mnt/usb
[12:46] <Flannel> w30: and, 644
[12:46] <ANTDx1> I'd prefer if at all possible an option that doesn't require me to get the live disc out and attempt to mount my Ubuntu partition
[12:46] <kitche> collier_: it's safe to use /mnt/usb anyways
[12:47] <Warbo> "-rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys lp 80 2006-10-02 16:35 /var/log/cups/error_log"
[12:47] <cpk2> ANTDx1: ctrl c
[12:47] <collier_> mount: only root can do that
[12:47] <Warbo> !sudo
[12:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:47] <Flannel> collier_: sudo mount
[12:47] <kitche> collier_: have to use sudo
[12:47] <w30> Flannel, Mine keeps changing to lp even though I make it lpadmin. cupsd does it but I don't know how.
[12:47] <ANTDx1> cpk2: can I use ctrl c during boot?
[12:47] <micael71> anyone useing tor and privoy i need help
[12:48] <Flannel> w30: file a bug?  that does seem odd.
[12:48] <cpk2> ANTDx1: yeh i would assume you do it while its configuring network interfaces, thats probably when it tries to bring up the wireless
[12:48] <Warbo> micael71: I have installed it but haven't enabled it for Epiphany yet (I have used it before though). What's the trouble?
[12:48] <ANTDx1> I can try.  it stops during the step "loading manual drivers" on the boot screen
[12:48] <collier_> collier@collier-desktop:~$ sudo in mount -t  vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[12:48] <collier_> sudo: in: command not found
[12:48] <Flannel> collier_: no in
[12:48] <micael71> Warbo i have installed it too but i still have the same ip
[12:49] <cpk2> ANTDx1: i suppose you could try to ctrl c that then =P
[12:49] <nexeus> sudo in???
[12:49] <ANTDx1> would that work?
[12:49] <w30> Flannel, their is according to google but no answers other than urgency medium or something like that
[12:49] <collier_> mount: mount point /mnt/usb does not exist
[12:49] <nexeus>  sudo  mount -t  vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[12:49] <Warbo> micael71: You need to route privoxy through TOR, then set privoxy's port as your proxy in your browser (the guide explains this, but I may as well set mine up now as well)
[12:49] <kitche> collier_: you have to make the folder then sudo mkdir /mnt/usb
[12:50] <Warbo> micael71: You will still have the same IP from ifconfig and stuff, but those you connect to through an app using privoxy/tor as proxy will not be able to get it
[12:50] <micael71> Warbo:then we might set it up together
[12:50] <collier_> In /mnt?
[12:50] <collier_> I just tryed but it said I dont have permissions
[12:50] <Warbo> micael71: yup. You have the packages installed? (that is as far as I have got)
[12:50] <kitche> collier_: yes did you use sudo when you tried
[12:50] <micael71> warbo i have it on xp
[12:51] <collier_> ok
[12:51] <w30> Flannel, what Ubuntu are you using?
[12:51] <Flannel> w30: Breezy
[12:51] <collier_> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/usb busy
[12:51] <collier_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /
[12:51] <w30> Flannel, thanks
[12:51] <micael71> Warbo yes they are installed
[12:51] <Coolrazor> Is it possible to make a Linux cluster with old pcs to run a game with great specs (i.e. HL2)?  Basically, make one supercomputer.
[12:51] <Warbo> micael71: I recommended it to someone on XP, but they found it too hard to set up and I don't have a license to use Windows
[12:51] <kitche> collier_: ok you have SATA then
[12:52] <collier_> I cant do it?
[12:52] <kitche> collier_: change /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdb1 when you try to mount it
[12:52] <micael71> Warbo for me in xp it was very easy
[12:52] <w30> Warbo, what distro version are you using?
[12:52] <Flannel> Coolrazor: not really for a game, no.  Since the game isn't designed for distributed computing.  Google "Beowulf cluster" for more details
[12:52] <collier_> collier@collier-desktop:~$ sudo  mount -t  vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb
[12:52] <collier_> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[12:53] <micael71> Warbo so how do i config tor or privoxy
[12:53] <kitche> collier_: ok now that is a bug it seems like
[12:53] <Coolrazor> Flannel: thanks a bunch ;)
[12:53] <Warbo> micael71: I am on the help wiki right now.........
[12:53] <Warbo> w30: Dapper
[12:53] <collier_> :/
[12:53] <Warbo> (6.06.1)
[12:53] <micael71> warbo ok
[12:54] <w30> Warbo, ok me too, thanks
[12:54] <collier_> So I cant do it?
[12:54] <MJ> hey people
[12:54] <kitche> collier_: well you can but the way I was gonna do it you can't for some reason
[12:55] <SonicChao> !midi
[12:55] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[12:55] <MJ> anyone in here help me with a routing/iptables (im pretty sure its routeing) problem?
[12:55] <nexeus> collier_, try to unmount everything and mount the usb the mount everything could that work
[12:56] <kitche> nexeus: if he umounts everything which he can't since /dev/sda1 is his /
[12:56] <sureshot> kitche i think i got it running i have the red dimond in the upper left corner thanks for your help now just got to figure it out
[12:56] <nexeus> ok
[12:56] <ic56> kitche, collier_ for removable media in Ubuntu, please adhere to the convention of creating mountpoints under /media -- not /mnt/.  Nautilus is configured to notice that place as special.
[12:56] <Warbo> micael71: Right. Run this "sudo nano /etc/privoxy/config"
[12:56] <Lunar_Lamp> i have a problem i dont understand.  i confiugured my laptop to use alt+end to be XF86NextTrack - and it skisp track in amarok when any window is selected.  i have configured the "forward" arrow on my usb keyboard plugged into my laptop to be XF86NextTrack also, but it will only work when amarok is the focused window <== can anyone help here?
[12:57] <collier_> ?
[12:57] <sureshot> jack_sparrow are you on yet my friend
[12:57] <collier_> so instead of /mnt/ /media?
[12:57] <ANTDx1> Ok.....next idea?
[12:57] <fluvvell> does anyone know how to change the maximum number of open files from 1024 to a higher number?
[12:58] <ic56> collier_: yes.  /media instead of /mnt/.  This won't fix your current problem but you might as well get that right in the first place.
[12:58] <sureshot> kitche what video card are you running my xgl seems a little sluggish was wondering if there are some options i could set to speed it up
[12:58] <ANTDx1> It appears as though I cannot ctrl c during boot
[12:58] <Warbo> micael71: At the top of that file add the line "forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 ."
[12:58] <ANTDx1> does anyone have any idea how I can make Ubuntu quit trying to use my wireless card?
[12:58] <collier_> collier@collier-desktop:~$ sudo  mount -t  vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[12:58] <collier_> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[12:58] <georgy_> ANTDx1, : do you have a usb stuff onnected
[12:59] <kitche> sureshot: I can't run xgl
[12:59] <georgy_> *connected
[12:59] <ANTDx1> I have a USB mouse and a USB printer connected
[12:59] <micael71> Warbo ok
[12:59] <sureshot> but you run beryl anyway
[12:59] <kitche> sureshot: yes though aiglx
[12:59] <Warbo> micael71: Next look for the line "logfile XXXXXXXXX" (not "logdir XXXXXX")
[01:00] <nexeus> kitche, is aiglx faster than xgl
[01:00] <sureshot> i  am not running aiglx dont know how or if it is possiable on an ati card
[01:00] <ANTDx1> i've booted successfully with both items connected many times.
[01:00] <Warbo> AiGLX is possible on older ATI cards with Free driver
[01:00] <Senesence> Can anyone install PCF (raster) fonts on their machine?
[01:00] <georgy_> ANTDx1,  : ok
[01:00] <kitche> sureshot it's not possible yet but the new nvidia cards can
[01:00] <ANTDx1> in fact, when I tried recovery mode, the text recognized and named the printer
[01:00] <collier_> [18:58]  <collier_> collier@collier-desktop:~$ sudo  mount -t  vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[01:00] <collier_> [18:58]  <collier_> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[01:00] <ic56> collier_: collier the error message from mount means that the file /dev/sdb1 doesn't exist.  Repeating the command won't make the file re-appear.
[01:00] <collier_> So what should I do now?
[01:00] <sureshot> i know i have a laptop wiht an ati x600 se
[01:01] <Warbo> micael71: comment out that line (put a # at the beginning) and also the line "jarfile XXXXXXXX"
[01:01] <wkaar> i have a folder which size is 5GB.  i want to zip it.but i want to split it after every 1 GB.  how i can do it?
[01:01] <micael71> Warbo ok
[01:02] <Warbo> Radeon 9250 and below are the only ones with Free driver that I know of (but with those the alpha compositing is done with Mesa, so I found AiGLX unusably slow on a Radeon 9200)
[01:02] <ic56> collier_: You need to find out why that device file wasn't created when you installed or when you booted (some systems run a script that auto-creates/deletes these files on each boot -- I forget what Ubuntu does)
[01:02] <nexeus> collier_, open Disc app in Administration see how many hdd you have
[01:02] <Warbo> micael71: Save and exit (ctrl-X, y, enter)
[01:02] <ANTDx1> georgy_: any advice
[01:02] <ANTDx1> ?
[01:02] <collier_> 1
[01:03] <collier_> Device: /dev/sda/
[01:03] <micael71> Warbo so it will look like #logfile logfile
[01:03] <Senesence> Can anyone help me out here?
[01:03] <Zephirus> Hello eveyrone, new to ubuntu...     but I do have LAMP running and I visit the forums quite often
[01:03] <georgy_> ANTDx1,  : I'm googling
[01:03] <Warbo> micael71: yes, This is to stop privoxy keeping a log of what you have visited (also make sure you have done that to "jarfile jarfile" as well)
[01:03] <ANTDx1> ok
[01:04] <nexeus> collier_,  have u tried to plug in a different usb port
[01:04] <ic56> collier_: generally, if the device driver isn't loaded, the file in /dev/ won't exist.
[01:04] <Warbo> micael71: Then run "sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy restart" to restart privoxy with these changes
[01:04] <sureshot> ware would i find the latest ubuntu version of the latest fglrx driver
[01:04] <maxLF> Will an ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard work in Ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[01:04] <Zephirus> I have a question about putting frontpage extentions on my LAMP server, apparently the 2002 extensions aren't available anymore.   Is the 2000 extentions ok to use?
[01:05] <collier_> It still says the same thing
[01:05] <collier_> I just switched it
[01:05] <Parkotron> How do I lookup the IP address of a given domain? I know there's a simple command line utility, but I forget the name.
[01:05] <thedash> I am having a bit of problems with my Evolution Mail program
[01:05] <Warbo> maxLF: It will work with 3D by default, but I think ATI have dropped support for the latest 3D effects on that card with their non-Free non-default driver
[01:05] <ic56> collier: You might get useful information from the files /proc/devices and /proc/bus/usb/devices
[01:05] <thedash> it adds all my sent mail to my local Inbox
[01:05] <stu__> hi, how can I get my optical sound out to work
[01:05] <Senesence> thedash: What problems?
[01:05] <maxLF> Warbo: So it won't be that great for gaming?
[01:05] <kitche> ic56: hmm it seems like you can use /media or /mnt
[01:06] <Warbo> maxLF: Probably not. It should be OK for modest 3D work (as in, ONLY 3D models). If there is transparency/alpha then that will slow it down
[01:06] <Senesence> thedash: all the sent mail??
[01:06] <thedash> Senesence:: yep
[01:06] <thedash> any time I send an email, it gets added as a newly received mail
[01:06] <thedash> which is pretty annoying
[01:06] <micael71> Warbo done
[01:06] <Senesence> thedash: Your not sending mail to yourself right?
[01:06] <collier_> Ok well I just plugged in my zen and it has a removeable disk on it and it worked with that but not my usb
[01:06] <thedash> Senesence:: nope
[01:07] <ic56> kitche: you can configure system to use anything.  /junk would work too.  The point is the user manuals refer to /media and it's name means removable media.  It's intended for that and it makes support easier if conventions are followed.
[01:07] <stu__> thedash: u not got summin odd in your .forward or something?
[01:07] <origin> Hey, anyone know what the replacement for base-config is - friend is installing Ubuntu through Knoppix (install CDs won't boot) and he's hit an impass here...
[01:07] <Warbo> micael71: Once you've done that just set your browser to point it's proxy at "127.0.0.1" port 8118
[01:07] <Warbo> micael71: Do you use Firefox?
[01:07] <thedash> stu__:: I don't know, I just set this up today, haven't messed with stuff too much
[01:07] <collier_> port 9050
[01:07] <Alakazam_> hi all
[01:07] <Senesence> thedash: I don't know. Did you try reinstalling Evolution?
[01:08] <Warbo> collier_: was that for me?
[01:08] <ANTDx1> georgy_: I appreciate your help, but I am going to try something on my own: I'm going to take my computer down to my dorm's lobby to see if it cooperates better if it actually receives a signal from wireless
[01:08] <thedash> I am trying to add some filters atm
[01:08] <kitche> ic56: I know it has to do with FHS just saying that FHS says you can use either
[01:08] <collier_> Is he trying to use tor?
[01:08] <micael71> Warbo yes i have firefox
[01:08] <Warbo> collier_: yes. He needs to set FF to look for Privoxy which is running through TOR
[01:08] <collier_> Warbo is he trying to use tor?
[01:08] <collier_> I have a question about tor
[01:08] <ic56> kitche: interesting. I'll have to check the latest version of FHS.
[01:08] <origin> Anyone know what the replacement for base-config is? Need to post-install a system that was set up using debootstrip
[01:08] <collier_> When I downloaded it
[01:08] <collier_> it says someting about tsock
[01:09] <Warbo> micael71: Check out the extension on this page http://tor.eff.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en (I use Epiphany, so I haven't tested it)
[01:09] <Senesence> Does anyone know how to install raster fonts on ubuntu?
[01:09] <lucaferr> How do I enable ssh in ubuntu?
[01:09] <lucaferr> sshd
[01:09] <micael71> ok
[01:09] <micael71> Warbo ok
[01:09] <Warbo> collier_: tsock? I don;t know what that is. I know it uses SOCKS which is a type of proxy
[01:10] <collier_> Warbo: hold on ill see what it says
[01:10] <Asc> it's installed?
[01:10] <jtholmes> !socks
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about socks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <lucaferr> !ssh
[01:10] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:10] <Asc> locaferr: 'sudo sysv-rc-conf' and look for sshd... enable it in collumns 2-4
[01:10] <Warbo> I'm guessing Epiphany uses a generic GNOME proxy setting, yes? (it doesn't have the option in it's prefs)
[01:11] <collier_> Warbo: Nevermind its working but I thought u use Port 9050
[01:11] <micael71> Warbo a big thanks to you
[01:11] <Warbo> collier_: TOR uses 9050, but it is a good idea to use privoxy, point your browser at it, then run privoxy through TOR
[01:11] <Warbo> micael71: np
[01:12] <collier_> Warbo: How do u do that? I just installed tor
[01:12] <Warbo> micael71: Now I just have to figure out how to set a proxy for Epiphany......
[01:12] <nexeus> any1 can help with dual monitor using x800 ati i need 3d acceleration enable?
[01:12] <Warbo> collier_: It should also install "privoxy"
[01:12] <collier_> warbo: I have privoxy installed also
[01:12] <nexeus> i have 2 CRT
[01:12] <nownott> can beagle index ntfs or fat drives?
[01:12] <Warbo> collier_: OK, then scroll up as I just waled me and micael71 through it. Do you want me to post the messages again?
[01:12] <collier_> How do I start it up?
[01:13] <collier_> Yes please
[01:13] <Warbo> collier_: It is started up by default, you just have to set your browser to use it
[01:13] <collier_> Warbo: its running right now?
[01:13] <Genix|linux> how do you change the default app to open mp3s?
[01:13] <Warbo> (pay no attention to the micael71 please)
[01:13] <Warbo> micael71: Right. Run this "sudo nano /etc/privoxy/config"
[01:13] <nexeus> any1 can help with dual monitor using x800 ati i need 3d acceleration enable? I have 2 CRT
[01:13] <Warbo> micael71: At the top of that file add the line "forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 ."
[01:14] <Warbo> micael71: Next look for the line "logfile XXXXXXXXX" (not "logdir XXXXXX")
[01:14] <LookTJ> what does this mean? Oct/01/2006 13:19:05 	SYN Flood Attack Detect
[01:14] <Warbo> micael71: comment out that line (put a # at the beginning) and also the line "jarfile XXXXXXXX"
[01:14] <nownott> can beagle index ntfs or fat drives?
[01:14] <Warbo> micael71: Save and exit (ctrl-X, y, enter)
[01:14] <collier_> Warbo: How do I set my browser to use it?
[01:14] <Warbo> collier_: read these instructions
[01:14] <athlon> LookTJ, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syn_flood
[01:14] <nexeus> Xinerama doesnt work for dual monitor help
[01:14] <LookTJ> ok
[01:15] <Warbo> micael71: Then run "sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy restart" to restart privoxy with these changes
[01:15] <rixth> Hey guys, bash scripting issue. http://pastebin.ca/189256  Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}") on line 4. It looks OK to me?
[01:15] <jtholmes> !beagle
[01:15] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[01:15] <collier_> Warbo: what instructions
[01:15] <Warbo> micael71: Once you've done that just set your browser to point it's proxy at "127.0.0.1" port 8118
[01:15] <Warbo> micael71: Check out the extension on this page http://tor.eff.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en (I use Epiphany, so I haven't tested it)
[01:15] <originlabs> Base-config - any idea how to do this in dapper, it appears to be deprecated :S
[01:15] <LookTJ> so I've being dosed?
[01:15] <Warbo> collier_: these messages which start with "micael71"
[01:16] <collier_> Send In query
[01:16] <Warbo> collier_: I basically walsed him through it 2 minutes ago, so I have just copy/pasted the stuff I told him
[01:16] <Warbo> *walked
[01:16] <collier_> Send it in PM
[01:16] <dk06> !paste
[01:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:17] <Warbo> collier_: I can't send you a PM
[01:17] <glguy> Is anyone else using 6.10 and just been notified that they need a distribution upgrade, but when you try to perform it you get an error that "a required package could not be installed"?
[01:17] <nexeus> !MergedFB
[01:17] <Warbo> it isn't working, maybe you're not registered
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MergedFB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <collier_> [19:17]  <Warbo> you hetting this?
[01:17] <collier_> [19:17]  <collier_> yes
[01:17] <collier_> [19:17]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[01:17] <Warbo> oh
[01:17] <collier_> Send it, ill see it
[01:17] <Warbo> ok
[01:18] <Intangir> whats a good tool to see what the heck is taking up all my disk space?
[01:18] <Alethes> ls
[01:18] <Alethes> :D
[01:18] <dk06> umm, serch?
[01:18] <dk06> search*
[01:18] <Alethes> ls -l actually
[01:18] <dk06> and then
[01:18] <glguy> Accessories > Disk Usage Tool?
[01:18] <dk06> categorize by sisze
[01:18] <dk06> size*
[01:18] <ladydoor> Intangir: do you have an idea about what specifically it could be? if so, try du
[01:18] <Intangir> i have no idea
[01:19] <Intangir> i havent got a clue
[01:19] <Intangir> i dont use this partition
[01:19] <Intangir> last i touched it it had plenty of splace
[01:19] <Intangir> space..
[01:19] <Intangir> now its at 97% :)
[01:19] <Alethes> neato
[01:19] <Alethes> check /tmp
[01:20] <collier_> Warbo: At the very top
[01:20] <collier_> Warbo: Before It says Sample config file for privoxy?
[01:20] <Warbo> collier_: Yes, press enter a few times to get some space
[01:20] <Intangir> where is this disk usage tool?
[01:21] <Warbo> !info baobab
[01:21] <JoshIRL> What media player do you guys recomend so i can play MP3s?
[01:21] <ubotu> baobab: graphical tool to analyse directory trees. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 584 kB
[01:21] <ladydoor> !mp3
[01:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:21] <JoshIRL> ubuntu doesn't read mp3? :(
[01:21] <Alethes> JoshIRL:   it can with very little effort
[01:21] <Flannel> JoshIRL: it does, you just need codecs first
[01:21] <ladydoor> JoshIRL: please actually look at the link.
[01:21] <collier_> warbo:
[01:21] <collier_> #  1.5. logfile
[01:21] <collier_> #  [01:21] <JoshIRL> I am :P
[01:21] <ladydoor> !pastebin
[01:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:22] <collier_> warbo: is that the log file?
[01:22] <Warbo> collier_: No. ALL that the line says is "logfile logfile", and it needs to be changes to say "# logfile logfile"
[01:24] <Warbo> Anyone know how to set the proxy that Epiphany uses?
[01:24] <collier_> Warbo: How Do I set my browser to point to that?
[01:25] <Warbo> collier_: If you are using Firefox then the extension on that page I linked to will sort it out
[01:25] <sureshot> jack_sparrow are you on my friend
[01:25] <odyssevs> Is there an 'ubuntu' method of building a new kernel?
[01:25] <Warbo> collier_: But I am using Epiphany and haven't figured it out yet :(
[01:25] <collier_> Warbo: Oh
[01:25] <nownott> DOES ANYONE KNOW IF BEAGLE CAN INDEX FAT AND NTFS DRIVES/
[01:25] <ladydoor> !SHOUT
[01:25] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:26] <Warbo> odyssevs: There is a method which builds a Debian (Ubuntu) package. I forget it now, but try searching/asking about kpackage
[01:26] <Volvo> !icons
[01:26] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[01:26] <Volvo> thanks ubotu muuah
[01:26] <collier_> Warbo: I clicked on Tor Enabled
[01:26] <jtholmes> Intangir:  find . -type f -mtime -1 -size  +1000000c -exec ls  -ltr {}  \;   will find and list all files greater than  1Meg on a  File system
[01:26] <collier_> Warbo: But I did the tor test thing and it says I am not using tor
[01:26] <collier_> I need to configure firefox
[01:27] <kitche> odyssevs: there is a wiki entry for building kernels
[01:27] <jtholmes> Intangir: created in the last day that is  -7  for  last  week etc.
[01:27] <Warbo> collier_: Ok, hang on I will fore up FIrefox (so to speak)
[01:27] <Gia> Hey people!  I need help
[01:27] <Warbo> *fire (way to ruin my own joke there)
[01:27] <gaminggeek> Gia, Whats wrong?
[01:27] <collier_> Warbo: But I dont think I have tor running I need enabled it
[01:28] <Warbo> collier_: "sudo /etc/init.d/tor restart"
[01:28] <Warbo> that will restart it (but it should already be running)
[01:28] <moparfan90> hello. i installed quake 4 on my ubuntu 6.06 32bit and when i try and launch it i get a openGL error. any ideas?
[01:28] <Gia> I have apache 2.0 installed on my ubuntu-server... but when I try to go to the website, all I get is a "Index of" listing in my browser...
[01:28] <PFA> gnome-cups-manager cannot find cupsys server or something. my heart bleeds and cries. can someone help me?
[01:28] <moparfan90> i have latest video drivers installed
[01:28] <Flannel> Gia: what do you have in /var/www?
[01:28] <collier_> Warbo: It still not working I think I put that thing at the wrong part of the top of the config file
[01:29] <kitche> Gia: do you have a index.html?
[01:29] <Volvo> how to add more icons to desklets starterbar ?
[01:29] <Warbo> collier_: In FF go on Edit>Preferences>General>Connection Settings and set "manual proxy configuration" to address "127.0.0.1" port "8118"
[01:29] <Flannel> Gia: or rather, what have you put into /var/www/?  since an index of is default
[01:29] <Volvo> drag drop is not working
[01:29] <Warbo> collier_: I don't think it matters where it goes, but keeping it at the top keeps it easily accessible for editing
[01:30] <collier_> Warbo: IT says localhost
[01:30] <Warbo> collier_: OK, same thing
[01:30] <collier_> Warbo: forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 .
[01:30] <Warbo> (localhost = 127.0.0.1)
[01:30] <moparfan90> whats a channel for linux games?
[01:30] <Warbo> change 9050 to 8118
[01:30] <collier_> Warbo: Does it need to have the period at the end
[01:30] <Gia> I created two separate virtual directories: www.<myfirstdomain>.com and www.<my2nddomain>.com
[01:30] <Warbo> collier_: Wait, in the config file? 9050 and yes, the perios
[01:30] <Warbo> *period
[01:31] <Warbo> collier_:  "forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 ."
[01:31] <micael71> Warbo Collier in firefox 127.0.0.1 will be localhost
[01:31] <collier_> You are (probably) NOT using Tor.
[01:31] <collier_> You connected to this site from 85.31.187.84, hostname jnz.ath.cx
[01:31] <collier_> I am using tor
[01:31] <collier_> cause thats not my IP
[01:31] <Gia> ...checking to give you more info...hang on
[01:32] <Warbo> collier_: You saved the config file?
[01:32] <Warbo> (with the right changes?)
[01:32] <kitche> Gia: ok those domains will work if you do virtual hosting int he apache2 conf but it will keep showing Index Of if you don't have a index.html
[01:32] <collier_> Warbo: yes.. Now for tor do I have to enable it to start everytime I boot up?
[01:32] <Warbo> collier_: It is already set up to do that
[01:33] <Warbo> collier_: and privoxy
[01:33] <collier_> ok sweet
[01:33] <collier_> Warbo: Thank you
[01:33] <Warbo> collier_: But to make sure your changes take effect copy/paste this into a trminal and run it "sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy restart && sudo /etc/init.d/tor restart"
[01:34] <Gia> Kitche, when I ftp in and copy a generic index.html, then try to browse the website, I get the following: FORBIDDEN <yikes>  You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server...
[01:34] <Warbo> collier_: does it say "restarting anonymising proxy server, etc. etc. etc."?
[01:34] <Gia> I'm doing something that is "forbidden"
[01:34] <Warbo> collier_: I mean filtering
[01:34] <kitche> Gia: your permissions are wrong
[01:34] <collier_> warbo: where?
[01:35] <moparfan90> anyone have quake4 working without a emulator?
[01:35] <Warbo> collier_: In the terminal you ran that command in
[01:35] <collier_> h.o
[01:35] <DaRIo|Linux> www.linuxgames.com
[01:35] <collier_> Yes
[01:35] <DaRIo|Linux> you can download quake4 without emulator
[01:35] <Warbo> collier_: Perfect. One more step
[01:35] <Gia> kitche, do you think you help me figure out what .conf files are wrong and/or permissions?
[01:35] <moparfan90> im trying to make it work but i get a openGL error.
[01:36] <collier_> warbo: what?
[01:36] <Warbo> collier_: In Firefox go in Edit>Preferences>General>Connection Settings
[01:36] <collier_> ok
[01:36] <Gia> kitche, I've got a terminal window up right now... using nano as an editor.... not sure what to change at this point.  been working on this for hours....sigh
[01:36] <cpl-tnt44> ok can some 1 explain to me something about installing a windows xp driver with ndiswrapper ?
[01:37] <Warbo> collier_: Make sure "Manual proxy configuration" is selected, and in the top box put "127.0.0.1" and port 8118, then select "use this for all"
[01:37] <ricardo> Hey, I am relatively new to Ubuntu/Linux and would like some advice. I have installed the desktop version and would like to install the LAMP thing. Is it as easy as just using the Sympatic Manager or I actually need to install the Ubuntu server edition? THANKS
[01:37] <|_ocke> alright.. i resized my swap partition and had to move the root and home partitions, and now i cant boot the partitions
[01:37] <Warbo> !lamp > ricardo
[01:37] <|_ocke> i used partition magic..
[01:37] <Warbo> |_ocke: no wonder. You used Partition Magic.......
[01:37] <Warbo> !gparted
[01:37] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:37] <kitche> Gia: the folder|_ocke: you have to edit /etc/fstab most likely
[01:37] <Gia> kitche, I'm wondering if I should have started with the desktop version, then installed LAMP, then disabled the desktop
[01:37] <LookTJ> use gparted
[01:38] <LookTJ> lmao
[01:38] <Warbo> |_ocke: Seriously though, how far does the boot get?
[01:38] <|_ocke> what would i have to edit in fstab?
[01:38] <collier_> warbo: Is there a way to view the netowrks in tor?
[01:38] <|_ocke> Warbo: it gets to 'mounting root filesystem' and sits there
[01:38] <ricardo> yes would like to install apache/php/mysql
[01:38] <Warbo> collier_: "view"?
[01:38] <|_ocke> im booted off hte livecd right now
[01:38] <kitche> |_ocke: everything to the right partition number
[01:38] <|_ocke> and i mounted the root partition to /mnt/hd
[01:38] <Gia> kitche, you lost me on "the folder|_ocke:"
[01:38] <|_ocke> kitche: they are
[01:38] <|_ocke> i made no changes there
[01:38] <LookTJ> ricardo: install lampp
[01:38] <collier_> warbo: In windows tor u right click niew network and u see all the tor circuits
[01:38] <cpl-tnt44> can some 1 please tell me what is the command for exsample to insert windows xp driver (for wireless pcmcia card ) with ndiswrapper ?
[01:38] <LookTJ> aka xampp for linux
[01:39] <Warbo> |_ocke: I mean when you try to boot does it get as far as GRUB? Does it get as far as the Ubuntu splash screen, and if so what message?
[01:39] <Warbo> collier_: I don't know about that
[01:39] <|_ocke> oh yeah brug works great
[01:39] <armadill0> Hello, does anyone know the name of the program that manages dns client resolution in ubuntu?  I'm trying to flush my dns cache.  Thanks :)
[01:39] <ricardo> ok, I'll try that, thanks
[01:39] <|_ocke> i edit the entry for 686 2.6.12-27 to say /dev/hda2 and boot it
[01:39] <|_ocke> which is what i had to do just immediately prior to resizing the swap partitoin
[01:39] <Warbo> |_ocke: And it finds the "vmlinuz" file? (Gives a line "booting the kernel.......")
[01:39] <|_ocke> yeah
[01:39] <cpl-tnt44> can some 1 please tell me what is the command for exsample to insert windows xp driver (for wireless pcmcia card ) with ndiswrapper ?
[01:39] <|_ocke> it boots the kernel
[01:39] <|_ocke> it just sits at 'mounting root filesystem'
[01:40] <Warbo> |_ocke: OK, does sound like fstab then
[01:40] <micael71> Warbo do you know a ftp-server with grafic that works in ubuntu
[01:40] <Warbo> |_ocke: You opened it up yet?
[01:40] <kitche> Gia: I m not an apache2 person I use lighttpd but the /var/www folder needs to be world readable if it isn't already
[01:40] <|_ocke> and all filesystems mount fine with no additional switches from terminal in here
[01:40] <pberger> armadill0: dhclient
[01:40] <ricardo> If I install LAMPP would it crash with my current mySQL installation?
[01:40] <armadill0> pberger: Thanks!
[01:40] <|_ocke> yeah
[01:40] <shwag> if I boot into windows I see pull up this site just fine, but if I am in linux I am unable to view the site. Says "Making connection..." and can't connect.
[01:40] <Warbo> micael71: Nope sorry. I know gftp is a good FTP client, but I don't know server
[01:40] <collier_> IS there photoshop for linux?
[01:40] <Warbo> collier_: WINE, or GIMP
[01:41] <collier_> GIMP is confusing
[01:41] <LookTJ> collier_: wine it
[01:41] <Warbo> (No matter what many people say, GIMP is AWESOME!)
[01:41] <|_ocke> the line is /dev/hda2    /      ext3     defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[01:41] <collier_> Wheres WINE?
[01:41] <Warbo> I find Photoshop VERY confusing
[01:41] <Gia> kitche, I feel so dumb.... um ok so I'm sitting in the /var folder.  how do I change permissions for www?
[01:41] <Warbo> !wine > collier_
[01:41] <LookTJ> imo GIMP Sucks
[01:41] <|_ocke> and /dev/hda2 is what it is
[01:41] <Warbo> XSane+GIMP+Inkscape+Moho=graphics heaven
[01:41] <kitche> Gia: chmod I m not sure what permissions have ot be added to it but you can man chmod
[01:41] <thejnaitor> how do I allow two different groups access to a directory?
[01:41] <micael71> Warbo ok thanks
[01:42] <|_ocke> the fstab entries are and should be the same as they were before
[01:42] <jtholmes> GIMP is very powerful, it just has a steep learning curve
[01:42] <Warbo> |_ocke: Hmm. So hda2 is DEFINETLY your /, and that shows up in "fdisk -l" "mount" ,etc.?
[01:42] <|_ocke> the device lettering hasnt changed, only the size and location of the partitions
[01:42] <|_ocke> Warbo: yeah
[01:42] <Gia> kitche, if used the "man" command before, but I could figure out how to get out of the manual after I was in it and wanted to get out???
[01:42] <|_ocke> i took great care to ensure that the partitions are still in the same order
[01:42] <kitche> Gia: you press q
[01:43] <kutan> Hello, can someone help me with the xmms installation?
[01:43] <|_ocke> i thought maybe it had somethign to do with changing the size and not telling it somewhere
[01:43] <Warbo> jtholmes: for future reference; steep learning curve = learning a lot very quickly = very easy to use
[01:43] <Gia> kitche, :-)  cool
[01:43] <|_ocke> but i dont see why that would be
[01:43] <Warbo> GIMP therefore has a shallow learning curve
[01:43] <jtholmes> Gia:  CNTL C   or  CNTL D  gets you out of just about any function
[01:43] <kitche> |_ocke: if you move the partition it will rename the partition number
[01:43] <micael71> anyone knows a good ftp-server with grafic for ubuntu
[01:43] <|_ocke> kitche: i didnt move them relative to eachother, only relative ot the drive
[01:43] <Gia> jtholmes...cool... again
[01:43] <collier_> In Source.list I added deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main now If I do save as it says its read only is that ok?
[01:43] <Warbo> kutan: You using the packages (ie. Applications>Add/Remove?)
[01:43] <|_ocke> freed some space in the front, moved the 2nd left, moved the 3rd left a bit, moved the 4th left.. etc
[01:43] <Asc> I'm looking for a program that will display recent entries from user-specified log files, and reload them every few seconds.  Does such a thing exist?
[01:44] <jtholmes> micael71: why do you want graphic ftp
[01:44] <thejnaitor> does chmod allow you to change permissions for a specific user on a file?
[01:44] <cpl-tnt44> Card: D-Link Airplus DWL 650+
[01:44] <cpl-tnt44> Chipset: ACX100
[01:44] <cpl-tnt44> pciid: 104c:8400
[01:44] <cpl-tnt44> can some 1 plz help install that card ?
[01:44] <cpl-tnt44> ^^
[01:44] <kutan> Well I'm compiling and installing it myself Warbo, not packages.
[01:44] <kitche> |_ocke: oh do you mean just resize since I thought you said moved the whole partition
[01:44] <jtholmes> Gia: your welcome
[01:44] <collier_> I cant save source.list
[01:44] <Warbo> collier_: You probably need to use sudo to edit the file ("sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list") to get super user permission
[01:45] <Warbo> kutan: Oh, well I am pretty hopeless at compiling (if the instructions in INSTALL don't work then I am lost)
[01:45] <LookTJ> collier_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:45] <micael71> jtholmes i am not so good at this writing
[01:45] <|_ocke> kitche: my swap partition is all the way at the end.  in order to make it larger, it needed more space in front of it, so i resized root down a little bit, and kept it all the way on the left.  then i moved /home a little left to fill the blank space i just made, then same with /usr, then i resized swap
[01:45] <jtholmes> Warbo:  i dont have any problem with gimp i just dont have much requirements for it i like it myself
[01:45] <collier_> I got it
[01:45] <Warbo> well, if you want to be graphical then gksudo gedit, yes
[01:45] <kutan> Well the only problem I'm having is the fact that when I run configure it says I don't have glib installed when I just installed the latest version
[01:45] <vovik> !schedule
[01:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:46] <Warbo> jtholmes: No problem, just me being picky :)
[01:46] <cpl-tnt44> how can i know what version is my ndiswrapper ?
[01:46] <sureshot> kitche are you here
[01:46] <kitche> |_ocke ok then most likely you might have broken your ubuntu if it's in the same order
[01:46] <kitche> sureshot: yes
[01:46] <LookTJ> |_ocke: the swap partition is for RAM
[01:46] <|_ocke> i have broken my ubuntu..
[01:46] <|_ocke> i know this
[01:46] <|_ocke> LookTJ: i know this
[01:46] <sureshot> kitche i got beryl runnng i sorta like it
[01:46] <Warbo> kutan: Here's a tip: Since XMMS is in Ubuntu anyway, all of it's build dependencies can be installed with "sudo apt-get build-dep xmms", then you should have everything needed to compile the source
[01:46] <collier_> Warbo: I did it now I go to syanptic and search for wine?
[01:47] <LookTJ> twice the size of your RAM
[01:47] <jtholmes> Warbo: sure it is very good
[01:47] <|_ocke> i've been using linux since slackware 3.0, i'm looking for some advice on how to correct it, not what is wrong with it hehe
[01:47] <Warbo> collier_: Make sure you click "Reload"
[01:47] <|_ocke> im an IT professional
[01:47] <collier_> warbo: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[01:47] <micael71> jtholmes i need a server for my mom so i can send files to her when i have someting to send to her and she can not allways be there so we cant use msn or something that you have to say yes to the file
[01:47] <kutan> er well I'm using kubuntu Warbo.
[01:47] <LookTJ> what is an IT?
[01:47] <shardz> Do I need to configure repo's before installing anything? apt-get and Adept both wont install anything
[01:47] <otaku-san> Ok I have a prob with conflicting packages...heres the output of the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25536/
[01:47] <Warbo> collier_: amd64 WINE? Oops, that is a tricky one
[01:47] <LookTJ> lol
[01:47] <|_ocke> information technology
[01:47] <LookTJ> oh
[01:47] <|_ocke> i fix windows and linux machines for a living
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> |_ocke: You didnt try to move/resize mounted partitions did you?  Can you run live to verify the partition letters/numbers are still the same?
[01:47] <collier_> Warbo: Yeah I have amd64
[01:47] <Warbo> kutan: Kubuntu, Ubuntu, it;s all the same Ubuntu
[01:47] <kitche> |_ocke: the only real way to fix it is to reinstall since you might of overridden an important file that is needed to boot
[01:48] <armadill0> pberger: I'm reading the dhclient man page.. I don't see anything about the client DNS resolve cache.
[01:48] <|_ocke> kitche: i did not.
 im an IT professional <-- you'd be suprised how many times I hear that every day from complete n00bs
[01:48] <Seveas> otaku-san, please rm that .deb package
[01:48] <|_ocke> Jack_Sparrow: yes, im in live right now with it booted
[01:48] <Seveas> ubuntu has a newer version of that library installed
[01:48] <|_ocke> i e2fsck'd all the partitions i resized and they all check clean
[01:48] <LookTJ> |_ocke: did you activate it
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> |_ocke: gparted still shows everything the same?
[01:48] <Warbo> collier_: Basically since WINE runs Windows programs, which are pretty much all 32bit, the developers haven't made a 64bit version. That means that you will have to install the 32bit version
[01:48] <Gia> I've forgotten how I display the permissions of a folder/file
[01:48] <|_ocke> kritical: yeah i guess thats true
[01:48] <|_ocke> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[01:48] <Gia> argh
[01:48] <armadill0> Anyone know the name of the program that manages DNS client resolution in ubuntu?  I'm trying to flush my dns cache.  Thanks :)
[01:48] <sureshot> jack_sparrow how are you
[01:48] <Warbo> collier_: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community and search for Wine
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi sureshot
[01:49] <collier_> Ok
[01:49] <stodge> Any ideas if there's amore recent version of Balsa available for Ubuntu?
[01:49] <CromagDK> Gia: ls -l ?
[01:49] <otaku-san> Seveas: rm?  Sorry...
[01:49] <sureshot> got xgl and beryl running
[01:49] <|_ocke> i have found absolutely no differences
[01:49] <jtholmes> micael71: if you use vsftpd and set the  vsftpd.conf file on here end to allow write permissions you can send her files all day and her  to you also it is not trivial but you cna do it and vsftpd is very very secure
[01:49] <Seveas> otaku-san, as in: delete, remove, throw out
[01:49] <|_ocke> i have / mounted in /mnt/root
[01:49] <Seveas> do NOT attempt to install it
[01:49] <eczarny> hey, is anyone able to use their xbox 360 controller with dapper on an ibook?
[01:49] <|_ocke> and my /home in /mnt/root/home
[01:49] <jtholmes> here = her
[01:49] <|_ocke> and /usr in /mnt/root/usr
[01:49] <collier_> brb
[01:49] <ttoes> I can't get WEP 128bit encryption to work with my centrino laptop and ubuntu dapper drake. Works fine without encryption. Works fine encrypted with XP. Ideas anyone?
[01:49] <gameman73> i need help with xgl, im getting very poor performance from glxgears (sub 500 fps),  im using an ati videocard
[01:49] <Gia> CromagDK....ok... that did the trick
[01:49] <Steil> Whats the best way to backup a running root filesystem?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> |_ocke: What did you use to do the partition editing
[01:49] <Warbo> micael71: If you just want to make some files available then there are a few "graphical webservers" on gnomefiles.org
[01:49] <|_ocke> and they all work great, i can run all files
[01:49] <CromagDK> good
[01:50] <|_ocke> Jack_Sparrow: i used partition magic and i think it did something weird
[01:50] <suff0kate> whats a good mp3 for ubuntu kinda like winamp?
[01:50] <cpl-tnt44> how can i know what version is my ndiswrapper ? what is the command ?
[01:50] <otaku-san> Seveas: ahhhh remove...ok....but it is needed for another package I'm trying to install
[01:50] <|_ocke> it 'fixed' a couple errors
[01:50] <Warbo> suff0kate: XMMS or BMP
[01:50] <Seveas> suff0kate, beep-media-player
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> |_ocke: Ouch..
[01:50] <Seveas> otaku-san, no, you need to find a correct version of that other package
[01:50] <suff0kate> danka
[01:50] <Warbo> suff0kate: Both can use WinAmp skins, but BMP (beep media player) has nicer menus
[01:50] <|_ocke> i imagine i need to unfix them, but if it mounts fine manually and checks out with e2fsck, what other routes do i have
[01:50] <kutan> back screw it, I'll just install xmms through a package manager
[01:50] <micael71> Warbo i will look at that thanks
[01:50] <cipher_nemo> I'm trying to run phpmyadmin by going to the locahost in my browser (Firefox) and clicking on the dir phpmyadmin, but Firefox wants to open/save it as a file instead of running phpmyadmin. How do I run phpmyadmin?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> |_ocke: Version 7 is iffy at best, hope you were using 8 or above
[01:50] <kutan> bah*
[01:50] <|_ocke> Jack_Sparrow: yeah 8
[01:50] <|_ocke> 8.05
[01:51] <|_ocke> i'd never use 4-7 for linux :P
[01:51] <|_ocke> except resizing a windows part
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> |_ocke: Just checking
[01:51] <armadill0> I'm trying to flush my dns resolver cache (not for bind) with ubuntu.  Does anyone know how this can be done?
[01:51] <eczarny> anyone able to get xpad to work in dapper? i'm having one hell of a time with it on my ibook.
[01:51] <|_ocke> hehehe
[01:51] <micael71> jtholmes what do you meen here do you want me to send the vsftpd.conf file
[01:51] <|_ocke> yes i have experienced the wrath before
[01:51] <otaku-san> Seveas: hahaha, ok.  It's a gui front for a app I have on my box
[01:51] <Seveas> !repeat > armadill0
[01:51] <LookTJ> |_ocke: gparted is better in my opinion
[01:51] <Viper550> Is it me, or are there problems with the wiki?
[01:51] <armadill0> Sereas: Do you know?
[01:52] <|_ocke> i must not have tried it, but i didnt realize it could easily resize
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> |_ocke: Not knowing what Partition MAgically Did for you I dont have any answers.
[01:52] <Seveas> Viper550, actually, it's faster than usual
[01:52] <otaku-san> Seveas: I'll try to find another version....something...probably a bug I found
[01:52] <LookTJ> does anyone use google.com/linux?
[01:52] <Seveas> otaku-san, simply recompiling the package on ubuntu will solve it
[01:52] <Viper550> But I'm getting errors, and when I tried saving a change I did to one of my pages, it deleted the page!
[01:52] <|_ocke> it said it fixed some problems with the partition table
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> GoogleEarth?
[01:52] <cpl-tnt44> how can i know what version is my ndiswrapper ? what is the command ?
[01:53] <jtholmes> micael71: no I would want you to read up on vsftpd.conf and have a understanding of  anonymous writes or specific login writes/uploads go to www.vsftpd.org and there are some good examples
[01:53] <Viper550> Page could not get locked. Missing 'current' file?
[01:53] <LookTJ> |_ocke: boot livecd then resize with gparted
[01:53] <suff0kate> another question is frostwire the best for music? or is there another recommeneded?
[01:53] <|_ocke> LookTJ: thats what im trying now
[01:53] <|_ocke> im already in live
[01:53] <otaku-san> Seveas: you mean now that I nuked it...I can down it and try compiling it again....makes sense
[01:53] <jtholmes> micael71: i am out of town at the moment and dont have all my notes with me but it can be setup up with some effort
[01:53] <Gia> ! mod_dav
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mod_dav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <jtholmes> micael71: i am going to dinner now so catch me later if you still have questions
[01:54] <Warbo> suff0kate: I would use GTK-Gnutella, it uses the same network as Frostwire so can access the same files, but it is smaller and takes less memory when running in the background
[01:54] <LookTJ> |_ocke open terminal, type sudo gparted
[01:54] <kitche> !webDav > Gia
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webDav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <sureshot> jack_sparrow join #sureshot for a few second if you would
[01:54] <gnomefreak> gparted gives you a menu entry
[01:54] <|_ocke> LookTJ: already done
[01:54] <suff0kate> thank you
[01:54] <Warbo> np
[01:54] <Gia> kitche, what is webdav?
[01:54] <|_ocke> unmounting and preparing now
[01:54] <Alakazam_> what percentage more performance does a SMP kernel offer?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Alakazam_: dual cpu
[01:55] <LookTJ> |_ocke: ok try resizing again
[01:55] <eczarny> anybody willing to help me with xpad?
[01:55] <Viper550> Alakazam: Alot if you're computer is SMP compatable
[01:55] <cipher_nemo> anyone know? asking again 5 min later: I'm trying to run phpmyadmin by going to the locahost in my browser (Firefox) and clicking on the dir phpmyadmin, but Firefox wants to open/save it as a file instead of running phpmyadmin. How do I run phpmyadmin?
[01:55] <flaco> hi... anyone has a USB marble mouse working?
[01:55] <Alakazam_> okay, so i should go ahead and go SMP
[01:55] <gameman73> i need help with xgl, im getting very poor performance from glxgears (sub 500 fps),  im using an ati videocard
[01:55] <Alakazam_> its a P4 3.2Ghz
[01:55] <Viper550> But, is your computer smp compatable?
[01:55] <Alakazam_> its a P4 3.2Ghz HT
[01:55] <kitche> Gia: it's Web-based Distributed Authoring and Versioning".
[01:55] <gnomefreak> gameman73: best to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:56] <gameman73> k, thx
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Alakazam_: i think the 686 kernel should do it for you
[01:56] <baconbacon> cipher_nemo: what is the url youre going to
[01:56] <Alakazam_> is kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp the latest precompiled kernel for ubuntu
[01:56] <Alakazam_> ?
[01:56] <siriusnova> okay guys i have a stupid question
[01:56] <cipher_nemo> baconbacon: localhost
[01:56] <lance_> sometimes i log in and my mouse is choppy until i reboot.. anyone?
[01:56] <lance_> my cpu is like 10%
[01:56] <baconbacon> Alakazam_: install linux-686
[01:56] <Gia> kitche, yeah read that, but I don't what the heck that means for a little user like me... do I need it?
[01:56] <siriusnova> if i use patched madwifi-ng drivers from madwifi.org will they screw up network-manager and wpa?
[01:56] <Warbo> Isn't Hyper Threading just used so Windows can fake preemptive multitasking, and is therefore pretty much useless to get SMP on Linux which does it properly?
[01:56] <kitche> Alakazam_: there is also 2.6 kernel
[01:56] <kyja> siriusnova, the only stupid questions are those never asked
[01:56] <baconbacon> Alakazam_: NOT kernel-image-* !
[01:57] <cipher_nemo> baconbacon: these were instructions I'm following:  "MythTV uses MySQL extensively, so we have to get this set up before anything else. Fire up Firefox and in the address bar, type "localhost". Click the "phpmyadmin" directory. Type in "root" in the login form, and no password. "
[01:57] <lance_> sometimes i log in and my mouse is choppy until i reboot.. anyone?
[01:57] <Alakazam_> root@malakai:~# apt-get install linux-686-smp
[01:57] <Alakazam_> :D
[01:57] <Alakazam_> like so?
[01:57] <ucordes_> what command do i have to issue in order to open another xsrv
[01:57] <|_ocke> gah
[01:57] <cipher_nemo> baconbacon: I just installed phpmyadmin and my-sql, etc.
[01:57] <ucordes_> ?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> lance_: is everything slow/choppy?
[01:57] <Alakazam_> Sweet, thanks baconbacon
[01:57] <lance_> nope.. just mouse
[01:57] <Flannel> Alakazam_: what ubuntu version are you running?
[01:57] <pberger> armadill0: then check out named / named.conf
[01:57] <Warbo> ucordes_: "X :1"
[01:57] <gnomefreak> lance_: did you try reconfiguring it?
[01:57] <|_ocke> gparted doesnt want to make changes to the partitoin because i am using swap space on that drive
[01:58] <|_ocke> can i unmount the swap space
[01:58] <Senesence> Can anyone tell me how to install a PCF font??
[01:58] <lance_> gnomefreak, reconfiguring what?
[01:58] <collier_> How do U install FONTS?
[01:58] <|_ocke> possibly mount swap on a differnt trive
[01:58] <armadill0> pberget: Thanks, I appreciate it :)
[01:58] <|_ocke> drive
[01:58] <baconbacon> cipher, with phpmyadmin you should have apache and php too
[01:58] <Alakazam_> Flannel, dapper
[01:58] <Alakazam_> kubuntu dapper
[01:58] <cipher_nemo> baconbacon: I do
[01:58] <gnomefreak> lance_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    there is a mouse section
[01:58] <Warbo> ucordes_: Just give it IP Address:server number. Since I guess you want it on your local machine leave IP Address blank, then since you have a server running on :0 use :1 instead
[01:58] <LookTJ> |_ocke: i think deactivate?
[01:58] <Alakazam_> i just downloaded it off the mirrors and installed today
[01:58] <Senesence> collier_: Raster fonts fc-cache doesnt recognize the new font.
[01:58] <Flannel> Alakazam_: and you have 2.4?
[01:58] <|_ocke> ts the only swap allocated, is that ok?
[01:58] <LookTJ> then resize?
[01:58] <Alakazam_> root@malakai:~# cat /proc/version
[01:58] <Alakazam_> Linux version 2.6.15-27-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006
[01:59] <lance_> gnomefreak.. thix i'll try that.
[01:59] <PFA> okay so i'm trying to resize a partition using liveCD and it says the device is busy
[01:59] <Warbo> ucordes_: To give regular users permission to run programs on that server you may want to use "X -ac :1"
[01:59] <PFA> what's up and how do i resize the thing
[01:59] <Flannel> Alakazam_: 2.6.15 != 2.4.15
[01:59] <ucordes_> Warbo: thanks a lot. but this only gets me a grey screen with a cursor. how can i run applications on this?
[01:59] <Alakazam_> hmm, lemme reboot into this SMP kernel... brb
[01:59] <kitche> PFA: you can't resize something that is mounted
[01:59] <briguyd> anyone use quod libet?
[01:59] <Warbo> ucordes_: OK, go back to another terminal
[01:59] <PFA> kitche, it's not mounted, i'm on a LiveCD
[01:59] <cipher_nemo> baconbacon: I just installed... build-essential, dialog, apache2, mysql-server, phpmyadmin, gcc-3.4, libapache2-mod-php5, libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, dvdauthor, mplayer-686, ntp, ntp-simple
[01:59] <gnomefreak> kitche: livecd shouldnt have mounted it
[01:59] <PFA> there's only one partition mounted
[02:00] <PFA> linux-swap
[02:00] <PFA> and it won't let me unmount
[02:00] <Senesence> Can anyone tell me why PCF fonts don't work on Ubuntu?
[02:00] <Warbo> ucordes_: run "export DISPLAY=localhost:1" then run whatever program you want, like gnome-session or startkde
[02:00] <collier_> So your saying you cant install fonts for GIMP?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[02:00] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[02:00] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[02:00] <tom47> !edgy
[02:00] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:00] <Warbo> ucordes_: You can actually use System>Quit>Switch User to start up another login screen, which may be what you are after
[02:00] <gnomefreak> tom47: for edgy join #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <tannerld> can anyone help me? cron isn't working anymore...
[02:01] <tom47> is there an edgy irc channel?
[02:01] <Senesence> gnomefreak: Tried that it doesn't work. I can't install this font http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/
[02:01] <gnomefreak> tom47: #ubuntu+1
[02:01] <tom47> gnomefreak thank you
[02:01] <kitche> gnomefreak: it just seemed like the drive was mounted since it said it was busy
[02:01] <LookTJ> |_ocke: you stuck still?
[02:01] <ucordes_> Warbo: but doesn't this operation close my current x?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:01] <cipher_nemo> collier: I like these font packages... gsfonts-x11, msttcorefonts, and then do a #fc-cache -f -v  when your fonts are installed
[02:01] <PFA> kitche, yea, cuz there's one partition mounted, right
[02:01] <gnomefreak> kitche: maybe PFA did mount it but livecd shouldnt mount it without you doing it
[02:01] <ucordes_> Warbo: btw: my first xserver froze after openning the second one with X :1
[02:01] <Warbo> ucordes_: No. Actually If you right click on the Ubuntu logo in the top left and go "Edit Menus" you can enable a new login menu option in "System Tools" menu
[02:01] <cipher_nemo> baconbacon: going to log... be back on tonight
[02:02] <PFA> gnomefreak, i did not mount it and gparted even says nothing is mounted except linux-swap
[02:02] <gnomefreak> PFA: unmount the swap and see if that helps
[02:02] <PFA> gnomefreak, it won't let me :/
[02:02] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:02] <micael71> jtholmes sorry was away looking for servers
[02:02] <gnomefreak> why would it :(
[02:02] <Warbo> ucordes_: Oh? Usually ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f9 can switch between and you can use both fine
[02:02] <tannerld> can anyone help me? cron isn't working anymore...
[02:02] <Senesence> Does anyone know why ubuntu won't detect PCF fonts?
[02:03] <ucordes_> Warbo: ye and ctrl-alt-f7 is dead now
[02:03] <ucordes_> Warbo: ye and ctrl-alt-f8 -> grey screen with X cursor
[02:03] <Alakazam_> sweet
[02:03] <Alakazam_> Dual procs
[02:03] <Alakazam_> hehe
[02:04] <gnomefreak> Senesence: did you put it in the right dir?
[02:04] <mikeymike> hey everyone
[02:04] <Alakazam_> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
[02:04] <Alakazam_> w00t
[02:04] <Alakazam_> brb ciggy time.
[02:04] <Senesence> gnomefreak: Yes ~/.fonts
[02:04] <Seb> sup y'all
[02:04] <Seb> how do I start he cups config GUI from a shell ?
[02:04] <Seb> s/ he/ the/
[02:04] <collier_> If I have a font on my desktop how to i add it to /usr/share/fonts/ threw termnial?
[02:04] <Warbo> ucordes_: Hmm, just tried it myself and switch user isn't working (probably my effed up X, so I am using AiGLX just because X doesn't work)
[02:04] <mikeymike> if you guys wouldn't mind taking the time to check this link out for me.. i'd really appreciate it... and so would my friend nancy.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270150
[02:04] <collier_> If I have a font on my desktop how to i MOVE it to /usr/share/fonts/ threw termnial?
[02:04] <kitche> Warbo: AiGLX is X
[02:04] <Warbo> collier_: Open file browser, press ctrl-L type "fonts:"
[02:04] <ucordes_> Warbo: i see
[02:04] <mikeymike> would you guys mind checking that out :)
[02:05] <Warbo> kitche: "xorg-air"
[02:05] <Warbo> rather than "xorg"
[02:05] <ucordes_> Warbo: so you think with aiglx ill prolly do better?
[02:05] <collier_> Warbo: could not find fonts
[02:05] <Warbo> ucordes_: NO!
[02:05] <mikeymike> can someone help me perhaps?
[02:05] <Seb> how do I start the cups config GUI from a shell, anyone ?
[02:05] <Warbo> collier_: Oh. Well, plan B I would install "kcontrol" and open it up. It is a KDE app, but is VERY useful for installing fonts (start it with "gksudo kcontrol")
[02:06] <Warbo> ucordes_: AiGLX messes up switch user, since it hasn't been tested much
[02:06] <Warbo> hang on
[02:06] <collier_> collier@collier-desktop:~$ gksudo kcontrol
[02:06] <collier_> sudo: kcontrol: command not found
[02:06] <mikeymike> i have a friend and her birthday is tommorow and i wanted to get some people together to send her a happy birthday message on ubuntu forums.. it would be wonderful if you guys could do that for me if you're a member already... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270150
[02:06] <mikeymike> it would be so amazing if she got some messages
[02:07] <mikeymike> it would make her day
[02:07] <collier_> Warbo: I did that now what?
[02:07] <slopzided> mikeymike, i'll do it
[02:07] <ucordes_> Warbo: oh ok. i got this twisted. have to leave . thx for your help and have a good time
[02:07] <mikeymike> slopzided: thank you so much :)
[02:07] <mikeymike> slopzided: i think she deserves it
[02:07] <mikeymike> she's a very faithful 15 year old ubuntu user
[02:07] <mikeymike> 100% ubuntu
[02:08] <slopzided> mikeymike, sweet :)
[02:08] <mikeymike> :]  thanks so much
[02:08] <mikeymike> you're an awesome person
[02:08] <slopzided> mikeymike, no problem at all really :)
[02:09] <slopzided> i'm big on birthdays ;)
[02:09] <mikeymike> the link to send her a message is in the thread.. its so easy just click and you're right there :)
[02:09] <mikeymike> :) okay
[02:09] <colin_> Does anyone here use a Ralink rt2570 wireless device?
[02:09] <duelboot> mikeymike, slopzided --enough...we get it
[02:09] <Seveas> mikeymike, sent 
[02:09] <mikeymike> thanks so much guys!
[02:09] <mikeymike> you guys are WONDERFUL
[02:09] <slopzided> duelboot, ?
[02:10] <THX-1138> colin - ralink yes, it is supported out of the box - i just clicked on it
[02:10] <Ash-Fox> Anybody know of a alternative to XMPlay? I can't find a single mod player that can play multi-track XM files properly.
[02:10] <colin_> It's not working for me
[02:10] <Senesence> I need help guys
[02:10] <JoshIRL> I still can't get mp3's to play on my ubuntu 6.06 and i read those pages and tried. i obviously messed somethign up :(
[02:10] <mikeymike> Seveas: thank you for doing that
[02:10] <colin_> The interface is there in iwconfig and ifconfig, but I can't connect to any access points
[02:10] <kitche> JoshIRL: you read the mp3 pages?
[02:10] <Alakazam_> my azureus keeps crashing, anyone experienced that?
[02:10] <Chamuco> so I did a new install and formated and formatted a ext3 to resier, could I recover that partition/files?
[02:10] <JoshIRL> Yes.
[02:11] <AnotherWarbo> Bah, I go to the trouble of manually starting a new X session as a new user, starting GAIM, signing on to FreeNode, and ucordes has left!
[02:11] <JoshIRL> I did something wrong or misread, because it isn't working, i tried twice.
[02:11] <shwag_> If I reboot in the Xen kernel, Xorg fails to load.
[02:11] <LookTJ> duelboot: shutup dude we were wishing someone happy b-day
[02:11] <gnomefreak> JoshIRL: you installed the packages they said to for dapper?
[02:11] <JoshIRL> Yes.
[02:11] <JoshIRL> !mp3
[02:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <suff0kate> When i was configuring GTK-Gnutella it said i can't locate 'make' my life depends on it?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> JoshIRL: the first link
[02:11] <JoshIRL> Yessum :P
[02:11] <AnotherWarbo> suff0kate: WTF? It is in Ubuntu!
[02:11] <tannerld> can anyone help me? cron isn't working anymore...
[02:11] <AnotherWarbo> !info gtk-gnutella
[02:11] <duelboot> LookTJ, I went to the link...not against it...it was just so much on a channel to help people with technical problems...
[02:11] <ubotu> gtk-gnutella: shares files in a peer to peer network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1956 kB, installed size 6988 kB
[02:12] <THX-1138> colin - check the settings for gateway
[02:12] <AnotherWarbo> !synaptic > suff0kate
[02:12] <JoshIRL> I'm going to go through this again, one second.
[02:12] <LookTJ> I help people with ubuntu only
[02:12] <Senesence> Is there a way to install a raster font on ubuntu? :)
[02:12] <LookTJ> but whatever you say
[02:12] <Warbo> OK, I'm back
[02:12] <Chamuco> I have not touched that partition
[02:13] <minerale> is there a gui sftp/scp client anyone could recommend me? (or a CLI one that has autocompletion)
[02:13] <THX-1138> !fonts > Senesence
[02:13] <magnus> anyody here running dapper64
[02:13] <LookTJ> Hi THX-1138
[02:13] <colin_> THX-1128, where do I find that setting?
[02:13] <Senesence> THX-1138: Did it, but it still didn't recognize this font http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/
[02:14] <THX-1138> Hi LokTJ - lol
[02:14] <magnus> dapper 64 anyone ?
[02:14] <LookTJ> not me
[02:14] <THX-1138> colin in networkin - part of the admin menu
[02:14] <JoshIRL> Yes, i did install all of the packages
[02:14] <LookTJ> im x86
[02:14] <Alakazam_> i think it was backdown java
[02:14] <eczarny> anyone able to use their Xbox 360 controller?
[02:14] <LookTJ> brb
[02:14] <shwag_> how can I force a runlevel at boot time so that Xorg doesn't try to load ?
[02:15] <Alakazam_> or blackdown, i installed SUN's java and it seems to have stopped crashing
[02:15] <PFA> so . . . what's the thing on parted to view your partitions??
[02:15] <jcole> nyone here have a *serial* (NOT usb) gps unit and have gotten it to work with gpsd?
[02:15] <JoshIRL> I installed gstreamer.010-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.8-mad and misc and tried
[02:15] <magnus> shwag: /etc/inittab - runlevel 3
[02:15] <JoshIRL> to open in gnome-
[02:15] <JoshIRL> it didn't play, said unknown stream format or something
[02:15] <colin_> It's on automatic DHCP, so the gateway field is grayed out.
[02:15] <Warbo> shwag_: Move /etc/rc2.d/SXXgdm to /etc/rc2.d/KXXgdm
[02:15] <chupacabra_> i don't remember ubuntu asking for a root password?
[02:15] <micael71> how do i stop a program from running
[02:15] <kitche> chupacabra_: ubuntu uses sudo
[02:15] <Warbo> !root > chupacabra_
[02:16] <magnus> is here a channel for dapper64 ?
[02:16] <chupacabra_> i realize but i would still like to have the root passwd
[02:16] <Warbo> micael71: "killall <programname>"
[02:16] <Senesence> Why can't ubuntu detect my PCF font??:(
[02:16] <JoshIRL> Anyone have any idea why i can't play mp3's? i installed the plugins/packages and it still doesn't know
[02:16] <pberger> michael71: sudo killall programname
[02:16] <Warbo> chupacabra_: Then run "sudo -s -H" then "passwd" to set one
[02:16] <collier_> Anyone know how to setup a network and share a printer??????/
[02:17] <attah> Anyone that is running edgy and got some knowledge about the new bootscreen system?
[02:17] <kitche> attah: ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:17] <colin_> attah, it just shows a progress bar and the Ubnutu logo
[02:17] <THX-1138> collier - in printing properties - be certain to select windows printer and not samba
[02:18] <collier_> Wheres printer properties?
[02:18] <|_ocke> k so gparted fails when trying to resize
[02:18] <attah> colin_ well mine went to low memory..
[02:18] <attah> kitche thx
[02:18] <chupacabra_> didn't work
[02:18] <collier_> Got it
[02:18] <THX-1138> collier - in the system .. administration menu
[02:18] <Warbo> chupacabra_: I don't think su will work, since it is disabled for regular users
[02:18] <collier_> Yeah but how do I setup a network
[02:18] <chupacabra_> ahhh
[02:19] <chupacabra_> but it wont let me update
[02:19] <Warbo> chupacabra_: I don't know how to configure su though (I know visudo for sudo though)
[02:19] <THX-1138> collier - not sure why leaving "discover network printers" unchecked helped.
[02:19] <PFA> so. in parted. i want to print . . . what?? i tried /dev/hda and it's like "umm i can't find hdc" which is obviously not what i'm looking for but um . . . whatever.
[02:19] <Warbo> chupacabra_: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:19] <chupacabra_> update asks for a password and i dont know it
[02:19] <Warbo> chupacabra_: Using your regular user password
[02:20] <odyssevs> Warbo / kitche, I presume patching up to .18 from the current kernel in Ubuntu (.15?) is easier than building the .18?
[02:20] <kitche> odyssevs: you stll have to rebuild the kernel
[02:20] <magnus> ah cmon, i must not be the only dapper64 user in the world
[02:20] <Warbo> odyssevs: I am using 2.6.15-23 (and that was reluctantly upgraded from 2.6.15-18), so don't ask me :)
[02:20] <Senesence> Does ubuntu support PCF fonts?
[02:20] <lunaphyte> i see the alternate install cd mentions lvm and raid partitioning - can software raid not be configured if i installed from the standard server install cd?
[02:20] <chupacabra_> coolio
[02:21] <odyssevs> Warbo, what sort of difficulty is involved in creating a live cd of Ubuntu, but replacing the kernel with .18?
[02:21] <JoshIRL> Anyone have any idea why i can't play mp3's? i installed the plugins/packages and it still doesn't know the streamer format or w/e
[02:21] <magnus> i lost my glxinfo utility in my latest update
[02:21] <magnus> anybody here with the same problem ?
[02:21] <colin_> THX-1138, eventhough the interface shows up in ifconfig, when I do "route -n" it only shows packets going through my ethernet connection.
[02:21] <Warbo> odyssevs: I have only ever recreated KNOPPIX live CDs (and replacing the kernel is a pain. I still can't get unionfs to compile :( )
[02:22] <dragonfire1> ing searching don't see how small I need soemthing for 64 ram on a laptop 1.2 hard drive
[02:22] <JoshIRL> >:O
[02:22] <xopher> magnus: I was running 64bit dapper, now at edgy, why?
[02:22] <cafuego> magnus: Possibly you are, most peole, would run 32bit on a 64bit desktop cpu - less painful - stuff just works.
[02:23] <cyber_brain_mfkg> in Gaim why i can't see avatars of my friends that r using yahoo messenger???
[02:23] <kitche> cyber_brain_mfkg: because gaim doesn't have that feature
[02:23] <Warbo> cyber_brain_mfkg: Hm? I can....
[02:23] <JoshIRL> !mp3
[02:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:23] <chupacabra_> she is upgrading now
[02:23] <chupacabra_> thanks
[02:23] <Senesence> !PCF
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PCF - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <odyssevs> Warbo, gahh. Linux is greedy for one's time.
[02:23] <magnus> xopher: i updated and lost my glxinfo utility. Can you check where it is on your edgy ?
[02:24] <cyber_brain_mfkg> kitche: but i can c that on msn accounts
[02:24] <Senesence> !raster
[02:24] <cyber_brain_mfkg> :-S
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <xopher> !info glxinfo
[02:24] <ubotu> Package glxinfo does not exist in any distro I know
[02:24] <Senesence> !bitmap
[02:24] <ubotu> bitmap: X client - bitmap. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 252 kB
[02:24] <magnus> it is not a package, but a utility
[02:24] <Warbo> odyssevs: Which is useful to those who wish to find ways to waste it (namely me)
[02:24] <kyja> !audio
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <kyja> oops
[02:24] <Warbo> cyber_brain_mfkg: You sure they have a picture?
[02:25] <Warbo> cyber_brain_mfkg: maybe see what happens when you set your own
[02:25] <cafuego> magnus: mesa-utils
[02:25] <collier_> Warbo: How do u edit /etc/apt/sources.list  in terminal again?
[02:25] <colin_> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on an Averatec laptop?
[02:25] <Warbo> collier_: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:26] <collier_> thanks
[02:26] <Alakazam_> yeah yeah YEAH
[02:26] <shwag_> how do I not load X only for specific grub entries though...so that Xorg still loads in my normal kernel, but doesnt load if I boot into Xen.
[02:26] <shwag_> since Xen doesnt seem to support xorg.
[02:26] <Warbo> sudo = super-user-do, nano= text editor, /etc/apt/sources.list = filename
[02:26] <colin_> Alakazam_: Was that in response to my question about Averatec?
[02:27] <Alakazam_> colin_, no... sorry
[02:27] <Alakazam_> lol
[02:27] <Alakazam_> lemme read up, maybe i can help
[02:27] <physicsnick> dear ubuntu, my microphone input volume is set ridiculously low and it's driving me INSANE, i have to put the mic inside my mouth for people to hear me
[02:27] <Alakazam_> Averatec is a name brand colin_ ... whats the question/problem?
[02:27] <physicsnick> i'm in kde, in gnome i could turn it up easily, but this "kmix" program is a piece of shit
[02:27] <physicsnick> how do i turn up my microphone volume?
[02:28] <Warbo> physicsnick: double click the volume icon in the top right?
[02:28] <colin_> Alakazam_: There are two problems, I can't get wireless working and the only video driver I can use is vesa, which is extremely slow.
[02:28] <Avagant> !listen
[02:28] <physicsnick> Warbo, yes, that works wonderfully in gnome, which is what i just said. i switched over to kde and there's no such option in kmix
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about listen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <Avagant> You guys heard of this "listen" player?
[02:29] <mister_roboto> physicsnick: the mic volume slider in kmix doesn't work for u?
[02:29] <Avagant> it's pretty awesome.
[02:29] <Alakazam_> colin_, what model number is your lap top.
[02:29] <Alakazam_> i'll be able to help you with this.
[02:29] <Warbo> physicsnick: OK, if you hate KDE (understandable) then try "alsamixer" in terminal (maybe "sudo alsamixer")
[02:29] <Avagant> It's not very pretty but it has everything I need. haha
[02:29] <physicsnick> mister_roboto, no, that's just output volume, not input volume (or microphone sensitivity)
[02:29] <colin_> Alakazam_: It's 2260-EK1
[02:29] <mister_roboto> physicsnick: wrong
[02:29] <mister_roboto> physicsnick: it's input vol. there IS no output on a mic
[02:29] <physicsnick> Warbo, i love kde, i'm just very surprised and frustrated that something works in gnome and not kde
[02:29] <Alakazam_> one second colin_
[02:29] <collier_> Anyone know where to install ADOBE FLASH PLAYER from is it in sypantic?
[02:30] <Senesence> Does anyone here know anything about .PCF fonts and how to install them??
[02:30] <JoshIRL> When i use audacity to open mp3  and convert to ogg i click ok to enter the mp3 and the program closes, why?
[02:30] <physicsnick> mister_roboto, of course there is. that slider is for how loud the microphone input is outputted back out through your speakers
[02:30] <THX-1138> Warbo - whaich control in alsamixer contrls the mic?
[02:30] <physicsnick> not how sensitive the mic is
[02:30] <Warbo> collier_: Personally I would get the package from debian-multimedia.org and install that (you shouldn't really install Debain packages, but Flash is binary only anyway)
[02:30] <cafuego> JoshIRL: It knows that converting from mp3 (lossy) to ogg (other lossy) is a very bad idea.
[02:30] <Warbo> THX-1138: The one which is labelled Mic?
[02:30] <JoshIRL> I can't get it to play mp3's.
[02:30] <mister_roboto> physicsnick: wtf are u talking about? it's input level. hence the input tab
[02:30] <JoshIRL> I've tried everything, no worky.
[02:31] <JoshIRL> So, if i convert it should play, shouldn't it?
[02:31] <physicsnick> mister_roboto, the input tab has three "capture" sliders, and says nothing about a microphone
[02:31] <THX-1138> Warbo - hm - i don't see it. is it the middle one near "surround"?
[02:31] <magnus> is there a way I can search the deb packages from a mirror? I want to know the location of a file
[02:31] <physicsnick> there is a microphone slider under the output tab, which controls output, as i just said
[02:31] <cafuego> magnus: apt-file is your friend.
[02:32] <magnus> thx
[02:32] <THX-1138> Hi cafuego.
[02:32] <Warbo> THX-1138: For me, in order from left: PCM, Surround, Surround, Centre, LFE, Line, CD, Mic
[02:32] <cafuego> THX-1138: Oh sorry, I ahd no idea.
[02:32] <JoshIRL> oh well no music for me then lol
[02:32] <physicsnick> Warbo, yes, that's under OUTPUT
[02:32] <THX-1138> cafuego - Thank You fpr hosting files.
[02:32] <mister_roboto> physicsnick: intersting. i have 7 input sliders. must be the sound card driver ur using
[02:32] <physicsnick> that is not the sensitivity, it's how loud the microphone is echoed back through your speakers
[02:32] <Warbo> physicsnick: alsamixer doesn't make any distinction
[02:33] <physicsnick> Warbo, yes it does.
[02:33] <Alakazam_> colin_
[02:33] <Alakazam_> PM me, so i can keep up with our conversation.
[02:33] <constantine-xvi> can anyone in here get a samsung i500 (palm 4.x) to work?
[02:33] <THX-1138> Warbo - okay, not enabled in my card. not sure why.. don't need it though.
[02:33] <physicsnick> Warbo, alsamixer shows exactly the same thing kmix does. it shows tabs for playback and capture, and there's nothing about a microphone under capture
[02:33] <colin_> Alakazam_: what's PM?
[02:33] <bm0nk> Private Message
[02:33] <physicsnick> i'll look and see if i'm missing any audio drivers, but everything else works fine
[02:33] <Alakazam_> private message
[02:33] <Alakazam_> i'll pm you
[02:33] <physicsnick> i mean the microphone works its just not sensitive enough
[02:33] <collier_> Warbo: I got to etc/apt/source.list and add which one from http://debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html to the list
[02:34] <suff0kate> whats the other good mp3 players XMMS isn't working so well?
[02:34] <Consty> I can't use skypeout to dial out.. whenever I type a number it instantly says call failed.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:34] <kitche> Alakazam_ you need to be registered to use the pm feature on here
[02:34] <Alakazam_> oh
[02:34] <Alakazam_> well, we'll just do it here.
[02:34] <mister_roboto> physicsnick: there is a mic boost under switches tab too
[02:34] <constantine-xvi> suff0kate: if you just want a player, use vlc
[02:35] <suff0kate> vlc is for video's isn't it?
[02:35] <colin_> Alakazam_: We can start a new channel on freenode, can't we?
[02:35] <physicsnick> mister_roboto, i have no such mic boost option
[02:35] <constantine-xvi> suff0kate: both
[02:35] <Alakazam_> sure thing
[02:35] <Alakazam_> join #alakazam
[02:35] <suff0kate> can u form a playlist with it?
[02:35] <constantine-xvi> suff0kate: yes
[02:35] <jackson> does anyone know if Cinema 4D works well with wine?
[02:35] <suff0kate> kk thank you
[02:35] <eobanb_> !restricted
[02:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:35] <THX-1138> Warbo - Ah - i can use the arrow key to scroll it.>> Do i owe you an hourly computer tech fee?
[02:36] <constantine-xvi> suff0kate: unless you are looking for more functionality than xmms
[02:36] <Alakazam_> colin_, join the chan... #alakazam
[02:36] <Consty>  I can't use skypeout to dial out.. whenever I type a number it instantly says call failed.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:36] <Senesence> Does anyone know why ubuntu won't recognize .pcf fonts? I really need help on this guys
[02:36] <Warbo> THX-1138: All in a days work (and I feel I owe the community a lot anyway)
[02:37] <mister_roboto> physicsnick: oh, i forgot... running edgy here. they might have changed kmix  :\
[02:37] <Warbo> suff0kate: If you install VLC then check out the "svlc" command, it lets you use skins
[02:37] <collier_> Warbo: I got to etc/apt/source.list and add which one from http://debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html to the list
[02:37] <Volvo> how to list running processes and kill some
[02:38] <Volvo> some desklets are stuck on my desktop and are not happy to leave peacefully
[02:38] <Warbo> collier_: Add an unstable or a sid, and use the deb not the deb-src
[02:38] <constantine-xvi> Volvo: ps auxw; killall (proc name)
[02:38] <Volvo> ok for listing them ? constantine-xvi
[02:38] <constantine-xvi> Volvo: or run gnome-system-monitor and kill them the graphical way if you must
[02:38] <kitche> Sensence: might help you out http://anakin.ncst.ernet.in/~aparna/consolidated/x1091.html
[02:38] <darkhaze> hey i got a problem instaling realplayer here
[02:38] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked. What should i do?
[02:38] <darkhaze> can anyone help me instaling?
[02:38] <jman8888> Is there a way to compress my podcasts? Like to 32bit(Theyre voice so i dont care.
[02:39] <Warbo> darkhaze: Did you use Add/Remove?
[02:39] <darkhaze> hrm i did it with terminal
[02:39] <bayzider> hey when im broswing the internet and use something like you tube the audio only works around 45% of the time whats with that?
[02:39] <brian98> darkhaze: The only way I got it to work was downloading it from real.com
[02:39] <Warbo> darkhaze: OK, which package name?
[02:39] <darkhaze> hrm
[02:39] <brian98> there is a deb there
[02:39] <darkhaze> i followed the guide
[02:39] <flaco> hi all... is possible to get working 2 mouses at the same time? the laptop mouse.. and a trackball
[02:39] <constantine-xvi> Volvo: use ps auxw to list, killall -9 (proc) to kill
[02:39] <darkhaze> sudo apt-get install reaplay
[02:39] <darkhaze> sudo apt-get install reaplayer
[02:39] <collier_> Warbo: W: GPG error: http://ieso.gotdns.com unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[02:39] <darkhaze> none of them worked
[02:39] <suff0kate> is there any programs that are similar to soulseek?
[02:39] <darkhaze> so i went to the real website
[02:40] <Volvo> ok
[02:40] <Warbo> I find the dapper commercial repo's package works fine, but there is a legacy "realplay" (I think) in multiverse which doesn;'t work
[02:40] <darkhaze> and downloaded a .bin file
[02:40] <brian98> suff0kate, nicotine
[02:40] <constantine-xvi> suff0kate: soulseek (explanation)?
[02:40] <darkhaze> but im a newbie here and i dunno how to proceed to install this .bin file
[02:40] <kitche> !nicotine
[02:40] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[02:40] <suff0kate> its a windows programs p2p - fullcds
[02:40] <Warbo> darkhaze: Go in Add/Remove and tick the "enable commercial software" box
[02:40] <bm0nk> I have a Netgear WG121 USB (v2) wireless card, and  I've just installed the newest version of ndiswrapper, got the wg121.inf/sys files from ndis5 folder, ndsiwrapper -l returns  netwg121 driver installed, hardware (0846:4210) present .// lsusb returns 0846:4210 Netgear, Inc. WG121 Wifi (v2) // HOWEVER iwconfig doesn't show my card...ifconfig only shows loopback... can ANYONE help? I've been working on this for days.....
[02:40] <suff0kate> thank you
[02:40] <HornyTeddyBear> your welcome, son.
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[02:41] <brian98> he's not your son
[02:41] <suff0kate> :-D
[02:41] <Warbo> suff0kate: MLDonkey can use Soulseek, EDonkey, Kademlia, Bittorrent, HTTP/FTP, Gnutella, Gnutella2, etc. :)
[02:41] <collier_> Warbo: Do I Need to put #deb http://mirror.home-dn.net/debian-multimedia unstable main or with the #
[02:41] <kitche> bm0nk: you have to up the card with ifup <device>
[02:41] <bm0nk> kitche it doesnt show up on iwconfig
[02:41] <Senesence> Someone please help me. :)
[02:41] <bm0nk> thats whats doing my nut
[02:41] <Warbo> collier_: Without the #
[02:41] <kitche> bm0nk: it won't until you bring it up
[02:41] <collier_> it dont work
[02:41] <brian98> Senesence, whats the problem
[02:41] <collier_> Warbo: W: GPG error: http://ieso.gotdns.com unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[02:41] <Senesence> Cant install PCF font.
[02:41] <Warbo> collier_: Oh? Hang on, I will give you my line....
[02:41] <darkhaze> it says
[02:42] <darkhaze> its not possible to install
[02:42] <Warbo> collier_: Oh, don;'t pay attention to that
[02:42] <bm0nk> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[02:42] <kitche> Senesence: did you go to the webpage I posted for you?
[02:42] <HornyTeddyBear> yes
[02:42] <darkhaze> cos this file get in conflict with another file instaled in my machine
[02:42] <Warbo> darkhaze: Probably conflicting files. Make sure you remove any other realplayer packages first
[02:42] <HornyTeddyBear> ok
[02:42] <w30>  darkhaze to run a bin file chmod ugoa+x file; then in the directory of the file ./filewhatever.bin
[02:42] <bm0nk> however ndiswrapper -l  reports     netwg121 driver installed, hardware present
[02:42] <Warbo> collier_: It has worked fine
[02:42] <Consty>  I can't use skypeout to dial out.. whenever I type a number it instantly says call failed.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:42] <Senesence> kitche: Yes, did that. PCF font still not recognized. Im trying this one http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/
[02:42] <Warbo> collier_: Now look for "mozilla-flash-player7-binary"
[02:43] <HornyTeddyBear> once you find it you need to do the hokey pokey
[02:43] <collier_> Warbo: Didnt find anything
[02:43] <Senesence> kitche: Could it be something with the font itself?
[02:43] <Warbo> Oops, you on amd64? It may still work, but now I am not so confident (bloody proprietary crap)
[02:43] <jman8888> !vlc
[02:43] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:43] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked. What should i do?
[02:43] <jman8888> Can anybody tell me how to shrink a mp3?
[02:43] <kitche> Senesence: not sure I don't use pcf files but according to that website you need to gzip them
[02:43] <collier_> Warbo: Yes I am on amd64 so what should  I do
[02:43] <darkhaze> imma try it
[02:43] <HornyTeddyBear> misslady, you should come over and have a cold glass of whine with me.
[02:43] <w30> darkhaze, but don't do that to a file you got off wharez
[02:43] <Warbo> collier_: Hmm, one second
[02:44] <kitche> bm0nk: hmm I wonder if it uses a different name isntead of wlan0 now
[02:44] <darkhaze> i got it from the realmedia website
[02:44] <Senesence> kitche: You mean unzip them? Yea I did that, followed all tut instructions. But still ubuntu wont recognize it.
[02:44] <Warbo> collier_: While you wait, remove that repo from sources.list (never a good idea to keep Debian repos around when you might press upgrade)
[02:44] <kitche> Sensesence: no I mean gzip
[02:44] <bm0nk> kitche : may i PM you ?
[02:44] <darkhaze> erm.
[02:44] <collier_> Warbo: ok
[02:44] <kitche> yes bm0nk
[02:45] <jman8888> !lame
[02:45] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[02:45] <darkhaze> Warbo i dun have any realplayer instaled here
[02:45] <darkhaze> and still says i do >.<
[02:45] <kitche> Senesence such as this gzip eenadu.pcf
[02:45] <Warbo> collier_: Try this, but I haven't used it myself as I am in 32bit land https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava?highlight=%28flash%29
[02:45] <jman8888> How can i encode a mp3 high quality to low quality.
[02:45] <jman8888> Please help
[02:45] <statikeffeck> !list
[02:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:45] <Warbo> darkhaze: Then get in a temrinal and rm the files :)
[02:45] <Senesence> kitche: It said I have to gzip it?
[02:45] <Senesence> kitche: where?
[02:46] <darkhaze> x.x how do i do that?
[02:46] <magnus> can anyone give me an example of using apt-file to search for a file
[02:46] <darkhaze> *second day using linux*
[02:46] <physicsnick> blarg. anyone know how i can install realtek audio drivers?
[02:46] <likewhoa54> anyone know a good linux terminal emulator vt220 etc.
[02:46] <HornyTeddyBear> HELP HELP: I have a prob. Someone asked me why tigger stuck his head in the toylat. Was it because he was looking for pooh?
[02:46] <likewhoa54> need one to replace procomm
[02:46] <Warbo> magnus: "sudo apt-file search mylibrary.so.4" for example
[02:46] <kitche> Senseence: it's the bitmap section of the webpage I posted
[02:46] <cafuego> HornyTeddyBear: Forty-Two.
[02:46] <Warbo> darkhaze: Oh, then I wouldn;t recommend random super user file removing then :)
[02:46] <Senesence> kitche: you mean the doc page !fonts?
[02:47] <darkhaze> lol
[02:47] <darkhaze> damn T.T i wanna watch my movies T.T
[02:47] <statikeffeck> !xmms
[02:47] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:47] <darkhaze> *goes read all the documentation i can find*
[02:47] <kitche> Senesence: no I mean http://anakin.ncst.ernet.in/~aparna/consolidated/x1091.html
[02:47] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !video editor
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !video edit
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video edit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !video
[02:48] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:48] <Warbo> darkhaze: OK, look in /var/cache/apt/archives for the realplayer file, then open it up in "file roller" (archive manager) (you will need to right click>open with)
[02:48] <ladydoor> MissLady: when you plug in your modem, is then anything relevant to it (like, say, having to do with USBs) when you do this:  dmesg|tail (in the console)
[02:48] <ladydoor> ?
[02:48] <Warbo> darkhaze: The drag the "data.tar.gz" to your desktop and right click it and select "Extract Here"
[02:49] <PFA> can someone tell me if i can delete my hda4 and 5? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25537/
[02:49] <jman8888> What can i USE TO MAKE A 256KB MP3 32KB I dont have room for all my podcasts in high quality.
[02:49] <ladydoor> !language > darkhaze
[02:49] <jman8888> Please help.
[02:49] <Warbo> cyber_brain_mfkg: Video editor? Check out Kino, LiVES, Cinellera and Blender
[02:49] <statikeffeck> !audacity
[02:49] <ladydoor> !shout
[02:49] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[02:49] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:49] <MissLady> no ladydoor
[02:49] <jman8888> ladydoor, Do you know what can compress?
[02:49] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !CAD
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CAD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <micael71> is there a way to get all my media files opend with vlc
[02:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !cad
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <jman8888> statikeffeck, I dont know how to use audiacity. I just need something to encode a few folders of mp3
[02:50] <ladydoor> jman8888: gzip, bzip2, zip...
[02:50] <collier_> Wardo: When I do the last step for flash it says to type linux32 ./install_flash_player_7_linux/flashplayer-installer I do that and it says command not found
[02:50] <jman8888> ladydoor, to mp3 low quality.
[02:50] <Warbo> jman8888: I would say either use soundconverter to make it low quality Ogg Vorbis (saves even more space because it has better compression) or extract it to Wave with soundconverter and use lame to reencode it
[02:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !auto cad
[02:50] <ladydoor> jman8888: lame
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auto cad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <jman8888> ladydoor, But how do i do it.
[02:50] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !qcad
[02:50] <ubotu> qcad: A professional CAD System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4.0-1-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2872 kB, installed size 12564 kB
[02:50] <Warbo> collier_: You sure you installed all of the packages it said?
[02:50] <ladydoor> jman8888: but i'd listen to warbo
[02:50] <collier_> Warbo: bash: linux32: No such file or directory
[02:50] <jman8888> ladydoor, I need it for my mp3 player.
[02:51] <darkhaze> Warbo  there isnt anyfile with real or something like in its name
[02:51] <jman8888> ladydoor, so i need a small mp3. How do i use lame.
[02:51] <collier_> Warbo: I dont have 32 I have 64 so do I have to change that?
[02:51] <DarkMageZ> collier_, stop stop... there are much better ways to install flash player 7 for ubuntu dapper
[02:51] <ladydoor> jman8888: ummm...lame file.wav
[02:51] <darkhaze> sorry about that ladydoor
[02:51] <darkhaze> :/
[02:51] <ladydoor> darkhaze: np
[02:51] <Warbo> jman8888: OK, I would say either soundconverter or "mpg123 -w file.mp3" to get a wave, then "lame -b XX file.wav"
[02:51] <cyber_brain_mfkg> one question: if KDevelop is for KDE what is for gnome? i mean is there similar thing?
[02:51] <Warbo> darkhaze: Really? Hmm........
[02:52] <Warbo> cyber_brain_mfkg: I have heard good things about Adjunta
[02:52] <DarkMageZ> collier_, um, flashplayer 7 for linux is for 32-bit. there are hacks to get it working... but it's not pritty
[02:52] <Warbo> (although I probably spelt it wrong)
[02:52] <DrBanzai> Anybody in here ever used the cluster feature of dvd::rip??
[02:52] <darkhaze> that whats driving me insane cos i went to the official guide on ubuntu-brasil
[02:52] <kitche> collier_: look up nswrapperplugin
[02:52] <Warbo> DarkMageZ: Yeah, I directed him (her? sorry I don't know) to the wiki page...
[02:52] <treitter> is anyone else unable to stat /var/lib/gdm/.gdmfifo ?
[02:52] <darkhaze> and followed all the instructions then i got some message like " u need xlibs but its unstable or removed "
[02:52] <Warbo> darkhaze: hang on
[02:52] <collier_> kitche: in what?
[02:52] <treitter> I see it, but I cna't stat it (stat claims it doesn't exist)
[02:52] <mr-russ> anybody setup apache2 fcgid php + suexec?  I can't seem to get suexec to go into the mix. 500 internal errors result
[02:52] <cipher_nemo> I'm trying to log in for the first time to phpmyadmin and going to localhost/phpmyadmin, but Firefox wants to download it as a file instead of run the login. Any ideas? I've installed apache2, mysql-server, phpmyadmin, libapache2-mod-php5, and libapache2-mod-auth-mysql already.
[02:53] <collier_> synaptic?
[02:53] <darkhaze> Warbo: alright
[02:53] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ok! thanx Warbo!
[02:53] <PFA> can someone tell me if i can delete my hda4 and 5? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25537/
[02:53] <Warbo> darkhaze: Oh, xlibs? That doesn't exist in Ubuntu
[02:53] <jman8888> Warbo,  I got lame to do it. Just how can i make it do it to a folder?
[02:53] <gandolfthewizard> hi all
[02:53] <Warbo> darkhaze: I made a hack for it though, by making an empty package called xlibs :)
[02:53] <kitche> collier_: it's to get 32bit plugins working on a x86_64 bit system
[02:53] <sedrake> whats the command to install C header files that matches my kernel?
[02:53] <collier_> kitche: where is it though?
[02:53] <Warbo> jman8888: I don't know, you might need to find a script (Perl or Python probably)
[02:53] <jman8888> :(
[02:54] <gnomefreak> sedrake: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.xx.xxx
[02:54] <Volvo> >> nautilus --no-desktop. Opens my username home folder. How to change it with To open My computer and Garbage bin
[02:54] <DarkMageZ> Warbo, ah, k. he was trying to install flash manually. i thought it was alittle odd when there's a package in the repo. cept now i find he's running x64...
[02:54] <kothz> !fglrx
[02:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:54] <Warbo> sedrake: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[02:54] <darkhaze> is it hard to make a package ? :~
[02:54] <fluvvell> mr-russ, we use apache and php with mysql, what do you use fcgid for?
[02:54] <Warbo> darkhaze: Not at all. All I did was open up Amaork, delete everything in it and rename it :)
[02:54] <collier_> kitche: where is it though? where do I get nswrapperplugin
[02:54] <Warbo> darkhaze: two seconds........
[02:55] <kitche> collier_: http://www.gibix.net/dokuwiki/en:projects:nspluginwrapper it's nspluginwrapper
[02:55] <mister_roboto> DarkMageZ: when is 64-bit gonna be a real first class citizen in ubuntu?
[02:55] <darkhaze> its gonna be a looooooong way till i get really used to linux lol.
[02:55] <physicsnick> hey guys, what's the volume control in Ubuntu called?
[02:55] <collier_> kitche: which one do I download rpm or tar
[02:56] <DarkMageZ> mister_roboto, it is... as far as the ubuntu dev's can make it... there's still alot of 32-bit binary junk like flash 7 which ubuntu cannot fix
[02:56] <Gia> anyone here an expert on vsftpd?
[02:56] <mr-russ> fluvvell: no mod_php.  fastcgi, to speed up cgi.
[02:56] <mr-russ> fluvvell: as mod_php is insecure for virtual hosting
[02:56] <fluvvell> physicsnic, under add to panel, its in system and hardware - its volume control
[02:56] <mr-russ> and by php6 there will be no safe mode
[02:56] <kitche> collier_: the tar.bz2: you need to compile it to make it work since the binary comes in as rpm
[02:56] <Gia> is there an easier/better ftp server than vsftpd???
[02:56] <physicsnick> fluvvell, i know how to access it, i want to know what its called
[02:56] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Warbo: do i need all that kernel booting choise on the boot or i can delete some of them from menu.lst???(because every time i updete kernel it makes a new 2 lines(kernel and failsafe mode)
[02:56] <physicsnick> fluvvell,  i want to install it in kubuntu
[02:57] <cipher_nemo> physicsnic: it's also part of the ubuntu-desktop, so you can troubleshoot from the package as well
[02:57] <Warbo> darkhaze: http://www.freewebs.com/chriswarbo/Temporary/xlibs.deb
[02:57] <mr-russ> Gia: for what purpose?
[02:57] <fluvvell> physicsnic, ah ok.
[02:57] <w30> mister_roboto, Microsoft is way behind on 64bit so at 90% user base people like Flash and wma9 codecs in the 64bit realm lag also because 1% or so don't carry much weight
[02:57] <collier_> kitche: can u help me with that? I downloaded it now what?
[02:57] <physicsnick> i don't want to install ubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <Gia> mr-russ, I want to use it ftp websites from my IIS/windoze server to my new linux lamp server
[02:57] <Warbo> cyber_brain_mfkg: If the newest one works then by all means get rid of the old ones (do it by uninstalling the linux-image-<version> packages)
[02:57] <fluvvell> mr-russ, thanks.  we are using php with ssl, but I guess thats not what you're after either.
[02:57] <cipher_nemo> physicsnick: understandable :) ... lemme check on mine
[02:57] <darkhaze> Warbo: done, downloaded it
[02:57] <kitche> collier_: /join #kitchetech
[02:57] <collier_> ok
[02:58] <mr-russ> Gia: what's wrong with ssh?
[02:58] <Warbo> darkhaze: OK, install that (don't worry, it is empty and harmless) so anything looking for xlibs will now think it is installed
[02:58] <mister_roboto> w30: gotcha. thanks
[02:58] <fluvvell> physicnic,gnome-volume-manager
[02:58] <w30> mister_roboto, the Linux 64 bit has been here for a long time on the server platforms of Sun and HP
[02:58] <Gia> mr-russ.. I have ssh installed, and I'm connected to it with putty, but I didn't know you could transfer files/folders with it....???
[02:58] <physicsnick> fluvvell, thanks
[02:58] <cyber_brain_mfkg> Warbo: ok!
[02:58] <Warbo> OK, nature is calling me pretty insistently. Be back in a minute
[02:58] <DarkMageZ> mister_roboto, you'll find that once 64-bit machines are more mainstream then we'll see more support
[02:59] <darkhaze> Warbo: done
[02:59] <darkhaze> let me try it now. (:
[02:59] <kitche> Gia: yeah with scp and sftp
[02:59] <gandolfthewizard> is there any other irc out there for linux
[02:59] <kitche> gandolfthewizzard: you mean irc clients?
[02:59] <fluvvell> physicsnick, you can also play with the volume in alsamixergui in a terminal.  The key is setting volume-control to activate the correct channel.  I use pcm
[03:00] <gandolfthewizard> yes
[03:00] <mr-russ> Gia: get winscp
[03:00] <kitche> gandolfthewizard: yes the three big ones are irssi BitchX and xchat
[03:00] <physicsnick> fluvvell, alsamixer and kmix both don't let me set the sensitivity of my microphone
[03:00] <user-land> is it possible to edit tags in rythmbox ? or how do you edit song tags ?
[03:00] <gandolfthewizard> ok ty can you chat on msn with linux or no
[03:00] <w30> mister_roboto, I tried a free beta of Longhorn 64 bit two years ago for my HP AMD 64 Desktop but took it out because there wore no drivers for any thing other than the bare system
[03:00] <physicsnick> and for some reason gnome-volume-manager won't run. *sigh*
[03:00] <kothz> bah, irc clients are for the weak.  Use cat and a pipe to a network socket. :)
[03:00] <cipher_nemo> physicsnick: no, gnome-volume-manager is for file volumes
[03:01] <physicsnick> ...oh.
[03:01] <wthww> hey ive got a question
[03:01] <cipher_nemo> I wish people would read descriptions before handing out info :(
[03:01] <darkhaze> Warbo: where do i have to download realplayer its asking the directory to save it
[03:01] <darkhaze>  /root?
[03:01] <fluvvell> physicsnick, microphone levels are in alsamixer, but is that the question?
[03:01] <otaku-san> To change to Xfce...I would install it on Adept (KDE) and then log out...and from the menu choose to re login with Xfce right?
[03:01] <wthww> whats that tool that lets you make a debian package out of a sorce so you can unintiall it?
[03:01] <cipher_nemo> physicsnick: I can't find it individually... may be part of ubuntu-minimal? otherwise no clue
[03:01] <physicsnick> hm
[03:01] <Joshua_Hesketh> Hey guys, I just got my MX5000 Keyboard and mouse duo. They are a bluetooth based logitech design that work fine in linux, can browse the bios but fail to register in GRUB. Any suggestions on how to get it to work with grub?
[03:01] <btdown> checkinstall
[03:02] <fluvvell> physicsnick, sensitivity has a lot to do with microphone type. - are you into audio (so as not to insult...) ?
[03:02] <cipher_nemo> physicsnick: I don't know if it's gnome of ubuntu specific for ubuntu dapper
[03:02] <physicsnick> fluvvell, i used to run dapper on here. worked beautifully, and i could adjust the microphone sensitivity
[03:02] <physicsnick> i recently installed kubuntu, and i now i practically have to put the microphone in my mouth for people to hear me on skype
[03:03] <constantine-xvi> whenever i try to sync my palm, it doesn't respond at all, or it locks up my keyboard and dumps weird messages to a terminal
[03:03] <Blissex> physicsnick: microphone boost +20db in the mixer
[03:03] <cipher_nemo> Looks like I'll post this again since no one offered to help (or knew about it):  I'm trying to log in for the first time to phpmyadmin and going to localhost/phpmyadmin, but Firefox wants to download it as a file instead of run the login. Any ideas? I've installed apache2, mysql-server, phpmyadmin, libapache2-mod-php5, and libapache2-mod-auth-mysql already.
[03:03] <Paradoxx> whats the chmod command to add rwx priveledges to  users and group?
[03:03] <krups> 777
[03:03] <physicsnick> xmix and alsamixer both show only three sliders under input, and all three are labelled "capture"
[03:03] <physicsnick> they all do nothing
[03:03] <physicsnick> there's no microphone boost
[03:03] <Paradoxx> krups: i did that, but it didn't add
[03:03] <kothz> cipher: can you run/parse other php scripts?
[03:03] <Blissex> cipher_nemo: you need to configure Apache to server PHP pages as PHP. It is a FAQ, any PHP site will tell you how.
[03:03] <Joshua_Hesketh> cipher_memo: Have you tried restarting apache? sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:04] <fluvvell> physicsnick, so it worked once, now you are struggling for level.  What distro are you in now?
[03:04] <Paradoxx> krups: the exact command is?
[03:04] <physicsnick> kubuntu dapper
[03:04] <krups> Paradox: try sudo chmod 777 /somepath/somefile
[03:04] <physicsnick> i'm wondering if maybe it didn't install my sound card drivers this time or something
[03:04] <cipher_nemo> Paradoxx: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=c/chmod
[03:04] <physicsnick> but everything works perfectly, its just not sensitive enough
[03:04] <Chamuco> so I formated an ext3 partition to reiser by accident is there a way to recover my files?
[03:04] <ladydoor> Paradoxx: do you want nonusers/nongroup-members to be able to access it, though; and if so, how much?
[03:04] <fluvvell> physicsnick, whoops sorry, you did say that. Yes I'd look at the sound drivers, is alsa running? Is your card showing in lsmod?
[03:05] <Paradoxx> ladydoor: yes
[03:05] <ladydoor> Paradoxx: ah, then forget i said anything.
[03:05] <cipher_nemo> Blissex: not sure, I'm following directions for installing MythTV (which needs MySQL), so the author of the instructions told me exactly what to do/install... but I can check
[03:05] <physicsnick> fluvvell, yes, alsa is running, all my applications are configured to use alsa (amarok, etc) and work perfectly
[03:05] <physicsnick> lsmod does show my card
[03:05] <physicsnick> skype uses alsa, it works perfectly
[03:06] <Blissex> cipher_nemo: you need to add the PHP module as a handler.
[03:06] <Joshua_Hesketh> cipher_memo: If you installed the php mod for apache it shouldn't need reconfiguring as far as I know.
[03:06] <cipher_nemo> Joshua_Hhesketh: #/etc/init.d/apache2 restart  I did that in a root terminal window, so it's been restarted already
[03:06] <physicsnick> in the gnome volume control program, i can pick whether i'm setting the volume on alsa or oss
[03:06] <Joshua_Hesketh> hmm, ok
[03:06] <physicsnick> i see no such option in kmix, why?
[03:06] <statikeffeck> cipher_nemo: besides phpMyAdmin, what about plain ol' php test pages?
[03:06] <Blissex> Chamuco: make a copy of the filesystem, and run 'e2fsck' on the filesystem using an alternate superblock address. Number of tutorials about that.
[03:06] <bruenig> physicsnick, #kubuntu perhaps
[03:06] <DrBanzai> Anybody in here ever used the cluster feature of dvd::rip??
[03:06] <Blissex> Chamuco: if that does not work, it is going to be hard.
[03:06] <physicsnick> :(
[03:06] <cipher_nemo> Blissex: that sounds like its on the right track... how do I do that? is it client side (Firefox) or server side apache?
[03:07] <statikeffeck> I just installed Apache, PHP, MySQL yesterday and it worked immediately
[03:07] <Blissex> cipher_nemo: server side. Check out one of many tutorials on how to configure Apache to process PHP.
[03:07] <Joshua_Hesketh> statikeffeck : same for me
[03:08] <cipher_nemo> Blissex: go for it... link?
[03:08] <Paradoxx> It won't let me add +R permisions to it >.<
[03:08] <Joshua_Hesketh> cipher_nemo: alternatively if you aren't comfortable with file editing, you could try installing LAMP
[03:08] <Blissex> cipher_nemo: web search...
[03:09] <cipher_nemo> Joshua_Hesketh: lol, LAMP is installed (Linux, Apache, MySQL, php)
[03:09] <cipher_nemo> ie: ubuntu Linux, Apache, etc.
[03:09] <harisund> cipher_nemo, he probably meant LAMP option from the CD?
[03:09] <kothz> Don't laugh - adding the handler for php in apache is a basic step in making lamp work fo ryou :)
[03:09] <bruenig> acronyms are fun
[03:09] <suff0kate> guys i have a confession
[03:09] <Kyral> and XLAMP is Xen Linux Apache MySQL PHP/Perl/Python
[03:09] <Joshua_Hesketh> cipher_memo: yes, but it isn't configured or working correctly for you. There is a pre-packaged apache, mysql php etc that should work out of the box
[03:09] <suff0kate> i'm in love with linux
[03:09] <cipher_nemo> harisund: LAMP is a single package?
[03:09] <suff0kate> :-P
[03:10] <bruenig> !offtopic > suff0kate
[03:10] <maccam94> argh, anyone willing to help with a weird sound card issue? the card is detected, the drivers are loaded, but there's no sound :-(
[03:10] <harisund> cipher_nemo, there is an option where you can install LAMP of the CD directly. Meaning after an Ubuntu installation you have a running LAMP
[03:10] <statikeffeck> cipher_nemo: this is a nice page:
[03:10] <statikeffeck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:10] <suff0kate> danka bruenig
[03:10] <Joshua_Hesketh> sorry, my bad, its actually called XAMPP
[03:10] <Joshua_Hesketh> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
[03:10] <fluvvell> brian98, if you're around: I sorted out my wireless woes from yesterday. The network configure tools had mucked up my use of network manager and added stuff into interfaces so that my wireless card was being ignored.
[03:10] <ANTDx1> ok
[03:10] <Joshua_Hesketh> following their instructions may help
[03:10] <ANTDx1> quick question for anyone
[03:10] <ANTDx1> how do I mount a hard disk while i'm on the live cd?
[03:11] <cipher_nemo> harisund: ahh, makes sense. I can't use the CD... I have to get very specific versions and updates to get MythTV liking it :)
[03:11] <brian98> fluvvell, I'm delighted to hear that man!
[03:11] <dan__> how can i change what actions are performed by using multimedia keys
[03:11] <brian98> Are you happy now?
[03:11] <dan__> the keyboard shortcut option only lets me set the keys
[03:11] <dan__> not the actions
[03:11] <cipher_nemo> harisund: ie, my sources.list includes universe and metaverse, etc.
[03:11] <brian98> fluvvell, How are you finding ubuntu?
[03:11] <Joshua_Hesketh> cipher_memo: if you only need mythTV and don't mind having php not working, you shouldn't need phpmyadmin to configure mythTV,
[03:11] <fluvvell> brian98, it was just a matter of deleting the lines from interfaces and network manager picked up the config for the card.  What tricked me were the dozen or so lines of white space before the config lines were added
[03:12] <ANTDx1> does anyone have any idea how i can mount my hard drive on a Dapper live CD?
[03:12] <cipher_nemo> Joshua_Heketh: yes, you're correct, I don't need it for MythTV, but trying to do every step exactly in an updated MythTV install guide, so the author uses it in the guide
[03:12] <brian98> its great that it worked out!
[03:12] <fluvvell> brian98, oh i love it. just when things get tricky, there is a bit of a need for extra help occasionally. Its good to be able to access this channel.  I try and help where I can too.
[03:12] <statikeffeck> !MythTV
[03:12] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[03:12] <Warbo> OK, who was I helping?
[03:12] <kitche> !mount > ANTDx1
[03:12] <darkhaze> me
[03:12] <maccam94> ANTDx1: mkdir /mnt/drive && mount /dev/drive /mnt/drive
[03:12] <darkhaze> o.o
[03:12] <brian98> Cool!
[03:12] <Warbo> darkhaze: so I was
[03:12] <Joshua_Hesketh> cipher_memo: ok
[03:12] <cipher_nemo> best guide I've found for MythTV install... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747
[03:13] <darkhaze> Warbo: it didnt work :/ well now i can acess the install option but it asks me for the realplayer files
[03:13] <TomChims> !gaim
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[03:13] <Joshua_Hesketh> sorry I can't help more, have to go
[03:13] <Joshua_Hesketh> bye
[03:13] <fluvvell> brian98, the trick is, if any interface is listed in /etc/network/interfaces it will be ignored by network-manager.
[03:13] <cipher_nemo> althepcman updates the original brezzy badger guide at http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[03:13] <stodge> Anyone know if there is a more recent version of Balsa for Ubuntu?
[03:13] <Warbo> darkhaze: Gah, that is not the realplayer package you want
[03:13] <darkhaze> Warbo: btw realplayer8 files. So i went to realmedia website and they only have the real10
[03:13] <suff0kate> is there a way to mask your ip on irc?
[03:13] <Warbo> darkhaze: There are two types. One downloads the binary and installs it (bad), and the other contains the files itself (good)
[03:13] <ANTDx1> thanks
[03:14] <fluvvell> so thanks for the help!
[03:14] <kitche> suff0kate: yes my ip is masked
[03:14] <odyssevs> Warbo, is there much trouble with USB wifi cards? I presume it's equally as traumatising as adding a PCI card?
[03:14] <SoulBlink> if one wanted to download a binary package by had, where would one go to that?
[03:14] <brian98> fluvvell, don't know if thats correct! All my cards are in there and i see them in network manager but hey, whatever works :)
[03:14] <statikeffeck> !wireless
[03:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:14] <SAM_theman> nite guys
[03:14] <brian98> fluvvell, and no worries!
[03:14] <maccam94>  suff0kate: /mode +x i think
[03:14] <darkhaze> Warbo: in the website i found the binary one. where do i find this 'good' one then?
[03:14] <statikeffeck> !usb
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <cipher_nemo> statikeffeck: thx for the link :)
[03:14] <fluvvell> brian98, I found it in the wireless howto pages on the forum.  Hmm, well not sure on that one but commenting out the lines was magic.
[03:14] <Warbo> darkhaze: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/realplay/realplay_10.0.8-0ubuntu1_i386.deb <- That is the one you want
[03:14] <DaRIo|Linux> !eagle errors
[03:14] <statikeffeck> np.
[03:14] <ubotu> eagle: Printed circuit board design tool. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.11-8ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2700 kB, installed size 6592 kB
[03:15] <w30> ANTDx1, mkdir /mnt/myharddrive  then mount /dev/myharddrive /mnt/myharddrive ( where myharddrive is the name of your drive like hda2 or hda1 etc.
[03:15] <darkhaze> oooh
[03:15] <DaRIo|Linux> !eagle error fix
[03:15] <darkhaze> warbo: so its always better look for .deb files?
[03:15] <DaRIo|Linux> !...
[03:15] <Warbo> darkhaze: Now it's just a matter of installing that (conflicting files, etc.)
[03:15] <brian98> Guys, anything similar to dreamweaver for linux?
[03:15] <darkhaze> hmm
[03:15] <swj> has anyone noticed packages held back in edgy?
[03:15] <brian98> just a question I was asked today?
[03:16] <tritium> DaRIo|Linux: yes, ubuntu .debs more specifically
[03:16] <physicsnick> maybe it's this fucking kernel that's the problem
[03:16] <Warbo> darkhaze: Usually yes. Ubuntu .debs definetly, Debian ones possibly (if source code is available for Debian .deb then get source and build your own Ubuntu .deb using checkinstall)
[03:16] <harisund> does anyone know of a handheld / pocketPC kind of a device that can run Ubuntu?
[03:16] <DaRIo|Linux> Ok
[03:16] <physicsnick> i installed the multicore kernel for my HT cpu and it's given me nothing but problems
[03:16] <tritium> physicsnick: watch your language
[03:16] <mister_roboto> brian98: yes, i did. xserver and python
[03:16] <maccam94> brian98: there are several IDE's, something like eclipse, anjuta, or maybe scribus would work (i don't remember what handles what)
[03:16] <darkhaze> Warbo: bro, i cant even figure out a way to payback all the help u provided to me
[03:16] <Warbo> darkhaze: No need, seriously
[03:17] <mister_roboto> swj: xserver and python
[03:17] <brian98> maccam94, Thank you
[03:17] <cipher_nemo> physicsnick: HT isn't really mpa, it's mta
[03:17] <maccam94> cipher_nemo: he's gone
[03:17] <brian98> mister_roboto, you talking to me/
[03:17] <DaRIo|Linux> I have a problem installing eagle-utils in xubuntu ... can anyone help me?
[03:17] <Volvo> in which folder i can find the icons which are being used by the system for GARBAGE BIN COMPUTER etc
[03:17] <cipher_nemo> physicsnick: meaning it's multi-threading, not multi-processor
[03:17] <mister_roboto> brian98: no, wrong nick :)
[03:17] <brian98> no worris!
[03:17] <darkhaze> Warbo: (: one day i'll be that good with linux then help out people just like u did to me :D
[03:17] <brian98> worries
[03:17] <Warbo> darkhaze: Well I started on RedHat 9 about 2 years ago, and have been using Ubuntu for 1 year
[03:18] <Warbo> darkhaze: Anyway
[03:18] <Senesence> I tried everything at this point, and I just can't seem to properly install this PCF font http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/ Could it be something with the font itself? Someone please help.
[03:18] <Warbo> darkhaze: Got that file yet?
[03:18] <Crescendo> How can I determine system uptime?
[03:18] <darkhaze> yah
[03:18] <Warbo> Crescendo: "uptime" I think
[03:18] <Warbo> darkhaze: OK, see ehat happens when you double click it
[03:18] <Volvo> Crescendo, /exec -o uptime
[03:18] <Volvo>  06:18:56 up 1 day,  3:10,  1 user,  load average: 0.26, 0.72, 1.05
[03:19] <darkhaze> Warbo: well it oppened the same screen as that .deb file u sent to me BUT
[03:19] <swj> mister-roboto: Its python unu, openoffice.org and gnome-system-tools and system-tools-backends-I guess I should just wait??
[03:19] <Volvo> in which folder i can find the icons which are being used by the system for GARBAGE BIN COMPUTER etc
[03:19] <darkhaze> Warbo: when i check 'install' it's sayin i can use only one 'package managing' at time
[03:19] <swj> mister-roboto: If I dist it wants to remove xchat! lol
[03:19] <tritium> swj: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[03:19] <cipher_nemo> maccam94: yes, I can read the quit messages :) didn't see it until after I typed that in
[03:19] <swj> tritium: umm k
[03:19] <mister_roboto> swj: mine were slightly different but then i'm using kde. what i did was just go ahead and install all the ones that were held back. i haven't had any problems but i don't know if that's the recommened approach
[03:19] <darkhaze> Warbo: but i have only ONE terminal oppened and my synaptic aint oppened.
[03:20] <Warbo> darkhaze: OK, close any Synbaptic, Add/Remove, update manager, etc. that is open
[03:20] <maccam94> cipher_nemo: lol that was delayed
[03:20] <w30> harisund, no but a Nokia 770 tablet runs Linux and lots of Linux stuff like VNC ssh Nicotine etc. check out maemo.org
[03:20] <tritium> #ubuntu is for support on the current stable release
[03:20] <darkhaze> Warbo: all of them closed.
[03:20] <swj> mister-roboto: got it. thanks
[03:20] <cipher_nemo> macam94: busy channel and on top of it I'm troubleshooting my own ubuntu issues in between :)
[03:20] <Senesence> Can someone help me out?
[03:20] <cipher_nemo> macam94: I'm no speed iirc'er :)
[03:20] <darkhaze> Warbo: still same error ._.
[03:20] <Warbo> darkhaze: Hmm, try running "ps ax | grep dpkg | grep -v grep"
[03:20] <harisund> w30, wow cool... let me check ut out! Thanks. I have been asking this query of mine quite regulary, and you are the first to answer! Sweet..
[03:21] <maccam94> cipher_nemo: lol, yeah i'm trying to install a ton of stuff on a fresh edgy install as well as get sound working, i know what you mean
[03:21] <darkhaze> Warbo: there, nothing poped up in my screen. is it alright?
[03:21] <NEWK2> Hello, everybody
[03:22] <w30> harisund, My 770 was 359 bucks US from Nokia web sales, may be less now?
[03:22] <Warbo> darkhaze: I would say so
[03:22] <NEWK2> I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu
[03:22] <cipher_nemo> maccam94: I just gave up on Debian 3.1 r3 sarge... the darn 686 kernel never mounts my DVD, but the 386 kernel does... darndest thing. So I switched to ubuntu and never looked back -- better community too :)
[03:22] <harisund> w30, looks to be the same. So you actually have a 770! That's super cool. How do you find it? What do you use it primarily for?
[03:22] <darkhaze> Warbo: now i try to install it again or do i have to do anything else?
[03:22] <NEWK2> I've already done it twice, but I've messed something with the screensize up both times
[03:22] <Warbo> darkhaze: If something came up then it means a package manager has crashed somewhere, which is a bad thing but it narrows down the cause of too many package managers open
[03:22] <tritium> NEWK2: at whcih step?
[03:22] <brian98> maccam94, They are great IDE's it's more for pure web design that they are after?
[03:22] <NEWK2> Now I'm using the Live CD
[03:22] <tritium> which, even
[03:23] <Warbo> darkhaze: Try installing it with a terminal using "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[03:23] <fabiomazzarino> I need some help here. I use Dapper here, upgraded from Breezy. Although the kernel recognizes my USB Memory key, hal/dbus refuses to mount it. How can I fix it?
[03:23] <maccam94> um oops lol, crashed my gnome session
[03:23] <w30> harisund, they nicked me for sales tax, I think some places might skip the tax but how legal that makes you if you are US is a guess.
[03:23] <NEWK2> when it asks me to select the video modes during installtion, what am I supposzed to do?
[03:23] <fabiomazzarino> I've already looked for error messages but I couldn't find any.
[03:23] <Senesence> Does anyone here know anything about PCF fonts?
[03:23] <harisund> w30, ok ... I am not looking to buy one immediately. I want the opinion of how well *Linux* runs on different PDAs and the like .. that's all ..
[03:23] <lostboyz> i was wondering i have a logitech webcam and it comes up when i plug it in and look at it in camorama but i am not able to send it is amsn
[03:24] <odyssevs> statikeffeck, the wifi-wiki remarks the Linksys WPN311 as Ubuntu recognised, and working off the Atheros chipset. Is this also true for the WPN311NAR?
[03:24] <darkhaze> Warbo: btw, where do i have to put the file i downloaded? i mean the folder
[03:24] <Warbo> harisund: I knew a guy who has an "OQO" mini PC, which has limited documentation for Hoary
[03:24] <w30> harisund, beleive it or not I use the wirefi to connect to my Ubuntu box and to surf with the web browser when I find an open wirefi .
[03:24] <Warbo> darkhaze: Put it in your Home folder to be easiest
[03:24] <harisund> w30, nice :)
[03:24] <NEWK2> so, when I finish installing it, it's too large for my screen
[03:25] <NEWK2> So wheer did I mess up?
[03:25] <fabiomazzarino> I need some help here. I use Dapper here, upgraded from Breezy. Although the kernel recognizes my USB Memory key, hal/dbus refuses to mount it. How can I fix it?
[03:25] <lostboyz> i was wondering i have a logitech webcam and it comes up when i plug it in and look at it in camorama but i am not able to send it is amsn
[03:25] <w30> harisund, I can ssh to mybox from any connection and get any file I want, A graphical interface needs a gooood connection though
[03:25] <Senesence> I have some troubles installing a bitmap font. Can someone help me out in this area?
[03:25] <Volvo> Question of the Day. In which Folder System's icon are located ????
[03:26] <wasabi> What's that mean?
[03:26] <harisund> w30, hmm... does it have ethernet connectability?
[03:26] <ladydoor> whoa, calm down, there
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> Volvo, /usr.share.pixmaps
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> Volvo, /usr.share/pixmaps
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> Volvo, /usr/share/pixmaps
[03:26] <NEWK2> Can anyone hear me?
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> sheesh
[03:26] <darkhaze> Warbo: well i got an error like " error trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/realplay' wich is in the same reaplayer package
[03:26] <maccam94> NEWK2: NO
[03:26] <maccam94> lol
[03:26] <maccam94> jk
[03:26] <NEWK2> Damn. I'm in one of those IRC rooms where no one can hear me
[03:27] <NEWK2> Oh, nevermind, I guess you can. :P
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> NEWK2, we all can
[03:27] <w30> harisund, first thing you gotta do is get root by reflashing the tablet from maemo.org but instructions are easy if you have a Linux box.
[03:27] <NEWK2> I think I may have figured my problem out on my own though
[03:27] <Volvo> wickedpuppy, but they are not there. I mean the ICON for Computer and Garbage Bin are totally different than the one presnet there
[03:27] <harisund> w30, I see.. ok thanks :)
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> w30, and harisund is it possible to take n770 to private message ?
[03:27] <Senesence> I need some help bad.
[03:27] <his_dudnes> NEWK2 : i can reed you if that makes you happy
[03:27] <odyssevs> NEWK2, that's the benefit of using Linux. It teaches you critical thinking. =)
[03:27] <harisund> wickedpuppy, ok .. we are done anyway.
[03:27] <w30> harisund, wirefi, bluetooth for phone connection
[03:27] <Warbo> darkhaze: OK, then run "sudo dpkg -l | grep real" and tell me every package name (only use one line to avoid spamming, and I only care about the name, not the version or description)
[03:28] <Gia> wow... I'm back
[03:28] <odyssevs> Warbo, you don't foresee that I'd have any trouble with a PCMCIA to PCI pci card in Ubuntu?
[03:28] <Gia> what a pain
[03:28] <tritium> Warbo: sudo is not necessary for that
[03:28] <Warbo> odyssevs: I really have no idea, sorry
[03:28] <tyler_d> how do I remove hardware/drivers completely?
[03:29] <NEWK2> Damn! It still didn't work!!!
[03:29] <likewhoa54> odyssevs: some of those pci to pcmcia require special drivers
[03:29] <Warbo> tritium: I always get that any dpkg needs sudo
[03:29] <likewhoa54> odyssevs: check the chipset to see what chipset it is
[03:29] <lostboyz> can someone help me with my webcam issue? i am not able to make it work
[03:29] <w30> harisund, go to channel #770
[03:29] <darkhaze> Warbo: sudo dpkg -l | grep real // ii  memtest86+  // ii  myspell-pt-br   // iF  realplayer  // ii  vbetool
[03:29] <harisund> w30 will do...
[03:29] <odyssevs> likewhoa54: " 	Uses industry standard 1410 or 1211 controller chip, proven on all classes of processor, chipset and motherboard manufacturer.  Yenta compliant, PCI2.2 compliant, PC99 compliant.  Supports sleep and suspend modes.  Intel 82365 compatible register set."
[03:29] <Senesence> 2 days, and I still can't figure this out.
[03:29] <darkhaze> Warbo: ops and ii  aspell-pt-br
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> Volvo, /usr/share got a lot of gif ... i am not sure where exactly is the icons you want though
[03:29] <likewhoa54> odyssevs: does it show in lspci/dmesg?
[03:29] <fabiomazzarino> I need some help here. I use Dapper here, upgraded from Breezy. Although the kernel recognizes my USB Memory key, hal/dbus refuses to mount it. How can I fix it?
[03:30] <odyssevs> likewhoa54, I was wanting to establish this before buying =).
[03:30] <Warbo> darkhaze: Hmm, then I suggest "sudo dpkg -P realplayer" next
[03:30] <Volvo> ok thanks wickedpuppy
[03:30] <Volvo> woof woof
[03:30] <odyssevs> NEWK2, how about some details of your problem?
[03:30] <likewhoa54> odyssevs: I've used them before in linux but have had some sketchy support....you plan on using for wifi yes?
[03:30] <darkhaze> Warbo: there
[03:30] <NEWK2> I gave you all I have
[03:30] <NEWK2> I suppose I coudl repeat them
[03:30] <likewhoa54> odyssevs: if it's intel I'd trust it...
[03:30] <Gia> I need help setting up an ftp server on ubuntu
[03:30] <Warbo> darkhaze: Now try "sudo dpkg -i real*deb"
[03:30] <likewhoa54> odyssevs: I was using texas instruments edition
[03:30] <Warbo> (with that package in your Home folder)
[03:30] <Senesence> Can someone help me out with a PCF font installation?
[03:31] <efrancolaporte> hi i need help, i cant find whats the command for the application "X-CD Roast"; I want to run it as root and I can't login as root for some reason other than through "su root" in the terminal
[03:31] <ladydoor> efrancolaporte: you should use gksudo/kdesu instead.
[03:31] <Warbo> efrancolaporte: "xcdroast" maybe? Try "ls /usr/bin/*roast*"
[03:31] <odyssevs> likewhoa54, yes, becoming very costly buying duplicated hardware. Ideally I'd take a USB wifi card.. but I'm not certain that's going to be any easier, most of this usb crap comes without antenna connections (which defeats the notion of wifi).
[03:31] <Gia> I don't get it, but when I log in as a client with winscp, instead of getting public_html, I can see all the folders on the server.... I know I've done something wrong
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> Volvo, try this --> find /usr/share *.gif -print <-- it will list out all the files ending with *.gif in /usr/share
[03:32] <lostboyz> i can see my cam in camorama but i cannot send it in kopete or amsn any suggestions?
[03:32] <odyssevs> NEWK2, you're doing an installation.. and not sure which answer to give to the video adapter quiestion?
[03:32] <Warbo> efrancolaporte: Also check out "gksudo <command>" and "sudo -s -H"
[03:32] <Volvo> woof woof wickedpuppy thanks
[03:32] <NEWK2> Exactly
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:32] <NEWK2> Well, no, actualy, I dunno
[03:32] <odyssevs> NEWK2, how do I give you a critical answer when you're unsure of the problem? =)
[03:33] <Senesence> Can someone here do me a favor?
[03:33] <NEWK2> I'm trying to get to that point in the installation
[03:33] <efrancolaporte> thanks ladydoor and warbo it workred :-)
[03:33] <odyssevs> Senesence, aye?
[03:33] <odyssevs> NEWK2, and the obvious question - where are you now?
[03:33] <NEWK2> I know I'm frustrating you. I've had peopel asking me questions and not giving adequate information too
[03:33] <darkhaze> Warbo: thanks bro o/ erm, now its working BUT no sound ._.
[03:33] <NEWK2> OK, I'm at that point
[03:33] <Warbo> darkhaze: Ah, yeah I had a problem with that
[03:33] <efrancolaporte> i really love this ubuntu comunity, you are teaching the n00bs like me a lot :-)
[03:33] <Senesence> odyssevs: Could you try to install this pcf font on your distro plz http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/ I just want to make sure it's me and not the font
[03:33] <Warbo> darkhaze: Are you streaming a file from the Internet?
[03:33] <odyssevs> NEWK2, that point being the question of which video adapter you're using?
[03:34] <darkhaze> no
[03:34] <Warbo> darkhaze: The I recommend GXine
[03:34] <NEWK2> OK, basically, when I finish the installation it's way too large for my screen
[03:34] <Warbo> *Then
[03:34] <SeerNo> hey all.  i have a question about keyboard mappings
[03:34] <achille> Has the compiz package been fixed yet? THe wiki displays a big warning saying do not install - broken
[03:34] <SeerNo> how come the "right click key" does nothing under ubuntu install ??
[03:34] <darkhaze> Warbo: sudo apt-get install GXine , will solve my problem ?
[03:34] <SeerNo> in FC3 and up it actually correspondded to right-clicking
[03:34] <NEWK2> so, where do I go wrong?
[03:34] <SeerNo> what do i set in xorg.conf to get it to work - i've tried everything
[03:34] <tich> i have this great program called democracy tv but sometimes it locks up and i have to kill it;  then when i restart the sound doesn't work. any ideas?
[03:35] <achille> I'm using edgy eft - beta --- will I be fine if I were to install the compiz packages ?
[03:35] <Warbo> darkhaze: If you DO want to stream a file then ALWAYS download it using streamripper first (since Gxine can't skip through a streaming file, so if it loses the connection halfway through you will have to watch it from the beginning again. Not so for local files)
[03:35] <NEWK2> Wait! I've got it.
[03:35] <Warbo> darkhaze: Yes, but lowercase
[03:35] <NEWK2> i just gigured it out. Nevermind. I ahd it backwards. :P
[03:35] <Warbo> I think RealPlayer is still needed because it includes the codecs, so it wasn't a total waste of time :)
[03:36] <NEWK2> *figured
[03:36] <NEWK2> "gigured" lol
[03:36] <jmitchj> can anyone help me with installing and getting Gnash working on an AMD64...?
[03:36] <odyssevs> Senesence, I am presuming winamp isn't included in Ubuntu by default, and is required for this ?
[03:36] <Warbo> jmitchj: Sure
[03:37] <Warbo> jmitchj: You ever compiled software before?
[03:37] <SeerNo> What do I set in xorg.conf so that the "right-click" key works???  It just "works" in other distros, not sure why not in Ubuntu...
[03:37] <Senesence> odyssevs: winamp, for a font?
[03:37] <jmitchj> i've installed the .deb file from the website...is there more than that?
[03:37] <jmitchj> and no i've never compiled software
[03:37] <darkhaze> Warbo: i just installed it but still no sound :~
[03:37] <Warbo> jmitchj: Oh, the easy way :) (I didn't know there was one)
[03:37] <odyssevs> Senesence, nevermind, I was reading the screenshot. I presume you've followed this http://nl.ijs.si/gnusl/cee/x11/font.install.html ?
[03:37] <jmitchj> it just didn;t work
[03:38] <Warbo> darkhaze: I mean use the GXine player instead of RealPlayer, and it will use RealPlayer's codec
[03:38] <Avagant> They need to port more games.
[03:38] <odyssevs> Senesence, you'll give me a moment, the machine is down the hall.. will take a few minutes to rig it up. Standby.
[03:38] <Warbo> jmitchj: Can you give me a link to the .deb please?
[03:38] <jmitchj> ok
[03:38] <jmitchj> http://ubuntu.moshen.de/dists/dapper/flash/
[03:38] <SeerNo> anyone....?
[03:38] <Senesence> odyssevs: thank you
[03:39] <jmitchj> i installed the gnash-plugin
[03:39] <NEWK2> Damn!
[03:39] <NEWK2> Same problem
[03:39] <kitche> odyssevs: were you the one that was asking about wireless the other day?
[03:39] <darkhaze> Warbo: Error loading library:  cook.so.6.0 ,  drv4.so.6.0
[03:39] <NEWK2> I've done everything I cna think of doing
[03:40] <NEWK2> What's wrong?
[03:40] <jmitchj> when I go to a site with flash...it says at the botton of Firefox..."Finished downlading Flas movie /tmp/FLVPLAYER_Progressive.swf. Starting playback..."....but noting happens
[03:40] <gaminggeek>  anyone know what package helix-dbus-server is in?
[03:41] <SeerNo> What do I set in xorg.conf so that the "right-click" key works???  It just "works" in other distros, not sure why not in Ubuntu...
[03:41] <jtholmes> !helix
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <NEWK2> OK, I have a problem...
[03:41] <odyssevs> kitche, yes, other than printing, I think wifing is one of the only things which would put me permanently off using computers =)
[03:41] <Warbo> darkhaze: Hmm, try installing "libxine-extracodecs"
[03:41] <NEWK2> Everytime I boot from the CD, it doesn't work. It's too large for my screen even if I mess with teh video settings everytime
[03:41] <Warbo> jmitchj: OK, I've had a look through it and it seems like the Firefox plugin should be installed system-wide
[03:41] <dragonfyre13> Hey guys. Had a bit of time, and figured I'd contribute.
[03:41] <NEWK2> I've tried everything. It's still too large!
[03:41] <NEWK2> Help!
[03:42] <tich> i just checked and after democracy locks up sound doesn't work for any of my programs. can anyone help me figure this out?
[03:42] <dragonfyre13> NEWK2: which CD?
[03:42] <Avagant> I was gonna be REAL angry just now.
[03:42] <NEWK2> The live CD
[03:42] <efrancolaporte> hey.. X-CD-Roast cant detect my DVD-RW/CD-R devices anyone know how to fix it?
[03:42] <jmitchj> Warbo: How do I make it system wide?
[03:42] <dragonfyre13> NEWK2: Kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, edgy, dapper, hoary?
[03:42] <Warbo> jmitchj: It already is
[03:42] <jmitchj> so why doesn;t it work?
[03:42] <Warbo> jmitchj: Try going on a relatively simple animation
[03:43] <jmitchj> ok
[03:43] <Warbo> Gnash is not that complete yet
[03:43] <Warbo> I will find a link...
[03:43] <jmitchj> ok
[03:43] <dragonfyre13> Oh, Gnash has tons of reported problems. As a project, it's coming along nicely, but don't rely on it.
[03:43] <deirdre> how fo i stop a partitioon from being mounted? I removed it from my fstab
[03:43] <odyssevs> kitche, I've bought another card.. we'll see whether it works (as proclaimed with great fanfare by many how-tos etc).
[03:44] <dragonfyre13> NEWK2: ???
[03:44] <jmitchj> are there better alternatives for AMD64 machine than gansh?
[03:44] <dragonfyre13> NEWK2: is it the standard download off the main site?
[03:44] <dragonfyre13> jmitchj: I thought there was a flash one for linux 64 bit.
[03:44] <bruenig> jmitchj, there are some howtos on getting 32 bit firefox to work which would allow flash, or you could use wine or a chroot
[03:44] <Warbo> jmitchj: OK, I really am sorry for the content of this but I just tried it in Gnash and it works (with no sound though) http://www.eviltrailmix.com/animutation/kungfu.swf
[03:45] <odyssevs> Senesence, goes into /usr/lib/X11/fonts/ I presume?
[03:45] <kitche> odyssevs: well I know what i was thinking of the other day it was wlan-ng
[03:45] <andrewcool> i am trying to install ubuntu right now on a laptop but i keep getting debottstrap error :P
[03:45] <dragonfyre13> jmitchj: there you go. That's how I got it to work, with 32 bit firefox.
[03:45] <odyssevs> kitche, wlan-ng? Similar to ndiswrapper/madawifi?
[03:45] <lostboyz> i was wondering i have a logitech webcam and it comes up when i plug it in and look at it in camorama but i am not able to send it is amsn
[03:45] <Senesence> odyssevs: Did it work on your distro? Because I tryed that and it still didn't work
[03:45] <kitche> odyssevs yeah
[03:45] <hoody> hi there
[03:45] <dragonfyre13> hoody: hi.
[03:46] <vanberge> ls
[03:46] <dragonfyre13> viator: you wouldn't happen to be using fifo would you?
[03:46] <vanberge> woops sorry!
[03:47] <dragonfyre13> vanberge: wrong window. ^_^
[03:47] <viator> heh?
[03:47] <Warbo> darkhaze: You still there? GXine working or not?
[03:47] <ubuntu_> i need help fixing grub
[03:47] <DrBanzai> Anybody in here ever used the cluster feature of dvd::rip??
[03:47] <jmitchj> could you give me that link again...gnome seems to have rebooted when i tried to get in cnn.com to give gnash a try
[03:47] <bruenig> !grub
[03:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:47] <Warbo> !grub > ubuntu_
[03:47] <dragonfyre13> viator: you're on verison in the eastern US. I wondered if you used fifo. I know it's available in parts. Fiber Optic network.
[03:47] <Isaiah_the_Marty> can someone help me with  burning a dvd?
[03:47] <Isaiah_the_Marty> nothing i can find online is helping
[03:47] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: sure.
[03:48] <bruenig> Isaiah_the_Marty, just a data dvd or what
[03:48] <vanberge> dragonfyre13: yep.
[03:48] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: which kind?
[03:48] <jmitchj> Warbo: Could you send that link again?
[03:48] <vanberge> :-/
[03:48] <Isaiah_the_Marty> its a .bin file of casablanca
[03:48] <Warbo> jmitchj: http://www.eviltrailmix.com/animutation/kungfu.swf (it is crap, but I like it :) )
[03:48] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i opend cd burner and put it in there  and the output was an iso
[03:48] <dragonfyre13> vanberge: if you would've typed dir I would have booted you. LOL.
[03:48] <Warbo> Use bchunk to convert .bin into .iso, then burn it
[03:48] <Isaiah_the_Marty> so i right click that and try to write it to cd and it just keeps putting it in my home folder
[03:49] <odyssevs> kitche, I gave up with the broadcom. I understand they're reportedly supported under the current release but the trauma was doing me in.
[03:49] <hoody> how do i fix the battery indicator on ubuntu edgy?
[03:49] <Warbo> Isaiah_the_Marty: There is a program called bchunk that converts .bin/.cue into .iso, which Ubuntu handles very well
[03:49] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: you are writing to the "image writer" not a physical disk. When it asks you where to write, change it to a drive.
[03:49] <Isaiah_the_Marty> installing now Warbo
[03:49] <ubuntu_> /boot/grub/menu.lst is supposed to be all text, right? even in edgy?
[03:49] <viator> its not call fifo
[03:49] <odyssevs> Senesence, would you believe I've never installed a font. It appears to go into one of the four folders in /etc/X11/fonts/
[03:49] <viator> lol
[03:50] <viator> fios
[03:50] <Isaiah_the_Marty> how do i write it to the dvd dragonfyre13
[03:50] <ubuntu_> mine seems to have gotten trashed
[03:50] <dragonfyre13> Warbo: he's saying it burns not to a disk, but to an ISO file.
[03:50] <DrBanzai> Anybody in here ever used the cluster feature of dvd::rip??
[03:50] <Warbo> OK, I really have to go since it is 3 AM and I have lectures at 9......... (If darkhaze has problems with RealPlayer and/or GXine then help him 'cos he's cool :) )
[03:50] <jmitchj> is it possible that the installation of Gnash is rebooting Gnome?
[03:50] <Senesence> odyssevs: I'm putting it everywhere at this point, but still nothing.
[03:51] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: grab k3b. It's like nero for linux. Real easy, and pretty straight forward. If you need something easier, and Gnome native, try gnomebaker.
[03:51] <andrewcool> What is the "The Deboot strap program exited with error(return value 1). Check /var/log/messages or see virtual console 3 for details"
[03:51] <viator> nah fios isnt available YET
[03:51] <odyssevs> Senesence, simply putting into one of the folders will not be enough, I believe. Did you follow the prerequisites on the URL I gave?
[03:51] <viator> ill switch as soon as it is though
[03:51] <Isaiah_the_Marty> kde app i take it dragonfyre13
[03:51] <dragonfyre13> viator: well, it should be soon. That would be sweet.
[03:52] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: k3b is, but it's way beyond where gnomebaker is.
[03:52] <viator> yeah the price difference is  almost nothing
[03:52] <odyssevs> Senesence, I mean if the both of us are going to wing it, we might as well do it properly =)
[03:52] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: it'll have you download the KDE libs, but it's worth it IMHO
[03:52] <Isaiah_the_Marty> how do i empty trash from command line
[03:52] <Isaiah_the_Marty> xfce doesnt have an icon for it
[03:52] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: if you use KDE already then you are set.
[03:52] <Senesence> odyssevs: Yea, from what I gather I should run xset fp rehash, or fc-cache, but I did that for everything already so I'm lost at this point. And no one knows.
[03:52] <andrewcool> Everybody(all):Who can help me with this install error?
[03:52] <viator> but the bandwidth is  aabout 6 times as much for cheaper package
[03:52] <Isaiah_the_Marty> <<< Xfce
[03:53] <odyssevs> Senesence, ok first point to make, it goes into the 100px folder only.
[03:53] <Isaiah_the_Marty> can you empty trash from the command line?
[03:53] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: go to the root, or your home, and delete everything in .(YOUR USERNAME)-trash
[03:53] <viator> bb
[03:53] <Avagant> They need to make Wine not suck. Haha
[03:53] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: oh, and xfce has an app for it. Let me find it.
[03:53] <Avagant> Or, I just need a better computer.
[03:54] <Avagant> With sound capabilities!
[03:54] <brian|lfs> I'm running ubuntu 6.06 and I want to try the 6.10 without reinstalling is there a way I can do that?
[03:54] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty:can you help me with a install error? please?
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: xftrash4
[03:54] <Senesence> odyssevs: In the /usr/lib/X11/fonts dir right??
[03:54] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: run that, and it will get you the trash.
[03:54] <vanberge> brian|lfs:  live cd ?
[03:54] <Senesence> odyssevs: or is it the /etc
[03:55] <brian|lfs> is there a way to update from 6.06 to 6.10
[03:55] <Isaiah_the_Marty> couldnt find it dragonfyre13
[03:55] <Isaiah_the_Marty> and its not in the repos
[03:55] <dragonfyre13> run it on the CLI
[03:55] <Isaiah_the_Marty> tried
[03:55] <Isaiah_the_Marty> says command not found
[03:55] <bruenig> brian|lfs, there is some repo you can add and go from there
[03:55] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: Let me find it. Hang on.
[03:56] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty : can you help me with a install error?
[03:56] <statikeffeck> !X11
[03:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:56] <brian|lfs> where would I go to find out what repo
[03:56] <Isaiah_the_Marty> whats the error andrewcool
[03:56] <odyssevs> Senesence, well now, I haven't a clue.
[03:56] <Avagant> Yah maybe I should figure out what my grapics card is and all that.
[03:56] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty :  "The Deboot strap program exited with error(return value 1). Check /var/log/messages or see virtual console 3 for details"
[03:57] <Isaiah_the_Marty> you installing?
[03:57] <andrewcool> Yes
[03:57] <suff0kate> how come when i play videos on youtube it has no sound?
[03:57] <Isaiah_the_Marty> on a laptop?
[03:57] <suff0kate> desktop
[03:57] <bruenig> suff0kate, because adobe wrote a poor flash port
[03:57] <odyssevs> Senesence, let me go give it a stab and we'll see.. brb.
[03:57] <andrewcool> Laptop
[03:57] <Avagant> You playing something else at the same time?
[03:57] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty :  laptop
[03:57] <Isaiah_the_Marty> andrewcool, that happend to me alot
[03:57] <Avagant> suff0kate: you play something at the same time?
[03:57] <andrewcool> so what do i need to do?
[03:57] <Senesence> odyssevs: please, It's been 2 days. I need some closure.
[03:57] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i would usually just keep trying until it worked
[03:57] <suff0kate> nope everything is stoped
[03:57] <Avagant> hmm
[03:57] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty :  been doing that lol
[03:57] <Avagant> well then flash sucks.
[03:57] <Isaiah_the_Marty> try turning your laptop on its side a bit to slow down the cd reader
[03:58] <Isaiah_the_Marty> thats what i did
[03:58] <andrewcool> ughh lol
[03:58] <john> What drivers should I use form my ATI Mobility X300?
[03:58] <Isaiah_the_Marty> have you formatted the entire drive andrewcool ?
[03:58] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty : Yes
[03:59] <andrewcool> i got  a 1gb flash drive
[03:59] <Avagant> suff0kate: you should probably google it.
[03:59] <andrewcool> can i install from there
[03:59] <Avagant> youtube+alsa
[03:59] <Avagant> or youtube+ubuntu
[03:59] <Avagant> !flash
[03:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:59] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i think someone said you can
[03:59] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i've never tried it though
[03:59] <Isaiah_the_Marty> so i wouldnt be able to help
[03:59] <Avagant> !flash > suff0kate
[03:59] <andrewcool> still getting the eroor
[03:59] <kutan> How do I open a .deb?
[03:59] <andrewcool> error...
[03:59] <anemone> anybody know why i would have to reinstall the nvidia drivers anytime i reboot?
[03:59] <harisund> is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop package? I know it is a meta package and all that, but will my Ubuntu break if that is not installed? Will some package in the future later break with a 'ubuntu-desktop not found error' ?
[03:59] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty : tried it upside down too
[04:00] <Isaiah_the_Marty> andrewcool, also sometimes it tries to install in /media/cdrom instead of /
[04:00] <anemone> oops
[04:00] <tich> my sound isn't working, how can i (re)start it without restarting the computer?
[04:00] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty : so what do i do
[04:01] <anemone> reinstall....reboot....nvidia?
[04:01] <Avagant> command line killall esd or killall alsa see if that works.
[04:01] <Avagant> i've been in your shoes.
 What happened to build-essential in Dapper?
[04:01] <Isaiah_the_Marty> when your partitioning andrewcool  make sure its set to /   and not /media/cdrom
[04:01] <kutan> -_- Can someone tell me how to open a .deb file?
[04:01] <jtholmes> anemone: that doesnt make sense sounds like the nvidia drivers are not being loaded have you tried lsmod
[04:02] <anemone> kutan dpkg
[04:02] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: what file manager are you using? Rox, or Thunar?
[04:02] <Crescendo> Doubleclick it, kutan?
[04:02] <Avagant> !dpkg
[04:02] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:02] <Isaiah_the_Marty> thunar
[04:02] <kutan> thanks...
[04:02] <Isaiah_the_Marty> why do you ask dragonfyre13
[04:02] <navaburo> dpkg -i <fiilename> will install it
[04:02] <anemone> np
[04:02] <Avagant> !dpkg > kutan
[04:02] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty :  on primary its set to /
[04:02] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: there is normally a trash association in the filemanager, and I think I know how to get it in thunar.
[04:02] <Crescendo> Telling people about command line methods doesn't exactly help most people.  <3
[04:02] <Isaiah_the_Marty> dragonfyre13, if i'm trying to burn a bin file do i start new dvd project or data project?
[04:03] <navaburo> How do I get GCC on Dapper?
[04:03] <Avagant> It didn't help me, haha.
[04:03] <Avagant> People thought I was crazy
[04:03] <navaburo> the forums say apt-get install build-essential, but that doesnt work
[04:03] <Avagant> did you try apt-cache search?
[04:03] <jtholmes> anemone: then do lsmod and see if they are loaded after you have installted them then look for the same driver in /usr/lib/modules/*
[04:03] <ladydoor> navaburo: did you use sudo?
[04:03] <anemone> sudo 1st
[04:03] <navaburo> ladydoor, you bet
[04:03] <Avagant> sudo apt-cache search gcc?
[04:04] <tich> Avagant: i tried killall but for both of them it said: no process killed and my sound still doesn't work.
[04:04] <jtholmes> anemone: yes just to be safe
[04:04] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: if you are trying to burn a bin file in k3b, you click on tools, then burn cd image, or dvd image depending on the type of media.
[04:04] <anemone> sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:04] <ladydoor> Crescendo: it's a lot quicker and easier than trying to explain a menu-driven method--click here...no, here! now check that and that, then click there...no, THERE!"
[04:04] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: on the toolbar.
[04:04] <Avagant> That's one of my favorite commands, ladydoor
[04:04] <DrBanzai> Anybody in here ever used the cluster feature of dvd::rip??
[04:04] <ladydoor> lol
[04:04] <dragonfyre13> navaburo: apt-get install build-essential
[04:04] <Avagant> i always search for things first myself.
[04:04] <inflex> Is there any service in ubuntu which starts up by default and hooks/uses ttyS0 ?
[04:04] <jtholmes> anemone: since I always run as root in every window i dont bother with sudo too time consuming
[04:04] <navaburo> dragonfyre13, got it, thanks
[04:04] <Avagant> Because lord knows what I'm actually downloading.
[04:05] <dragonfyre13> navaburo: sorry.
[04:05] <navaburo> its all good
[04:05] <dragonfyre13> jtholmes: sudo -s
[04:05] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty : woot is working now :P i guess...
[04:05] <anemone> jtholmes, i see the nvidia module loaded...
[04:05] <mike__> i don't know if this is the right place to ask this but: i have a computer that is connected to a router.  i set the router to do Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) on that that computers ip address(witch i told it to be static though every thing else on the lan is dhcp)... i think that means it should forward all ports to tha machien??  and i have created an account with dyndns... so i have a host name that resolves to ??i guess the router??...
[04:05] <mike__> this system i have the host name set to "cat".. i want to beable to ssh to "cat" from another computer on the internet... is that possable?
[04:05] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty : turned the laptop like facing up
[04:05] <Isaiah_the_Marty> andrewcool, when it wasnt working does it stop at like 86% and give the message
[04:05] <navaburo> So the general aditude here is to give GUI methods first? To facilitate newer users?
[04:05] <Isaiah_the_Marty> and then sometimes it goes through
[04:05] <jtholmes> anemone: ok now see if it is in  /usr/lib/modules
[04:06] <Isaiah_the_Marty> but when installing the extra packages stops at 76%
[04:06] <anemone> jthomles, well, maybe just a sudo modprobe nvidia after reboot would work but why would it not load on boot?
[04:06] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty : it was stopping at 6%
[04:06] <odyssevs> Senesence, I would be tempted to install the truetype version of this.
[04:06] <dragonfyre13> mike__: yep.
[04:06] <Isaiah_the_Marty> yea that happend to me alot
[04:06] <Isaiah_the_Marty> you just have to keep trying until it works i guess
[04:06] <Avagant> Goodness I need to stop drinking so many fluids.
[04:06] <andrewcool> Isaiah_the_Marty : can i install the extra pack later? because its going to take like 1.5hours lol
[04:06] <dragonfyre13> navaburo: basically.
[04:06] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i tipped my laptop on it side to get it working
[04:06] <w30> anemone, if you have installed the Nvidia driver through Ubuntu repository and then used the installer from Nvidia's web site they will fight each other so you need to remove one, probably the Ubuntu one if you have your own kernel.
[04:06] <jtholmes> anemone:   cd /usr/lib/modules;  execute  du -a |grep -i  module_name    see if it shows up
[04:06] <Isaiah_the_Marty> yea andrewcool just install the base system then use aptitude later
[04:06] <Isaiah_the_Marty> thats what i did
[04:06] <dragonfyre13> navaburo: we try to cater to the lowest common denominator.
[04:06] <Isaiah_the_Marty> much easier
[04:06] <anemone> w30, ok ill check
[04:07] <Volvo> i give up, i cann't find the icons folder
[04:07] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: did that work for you?
[04:07] <Volvo> so anyone in here who knows how to add those icons to your gdesklet starterbar ?
[04:07] <anemone> jtholmes, i have only /lib/modules, no /usr/lib
[04:07] <Isaiah_the_Marty> k3b dragonfyre13 ?
[04:07] <Senesence> odyssevs: Yea that works, but looks kinda crappy. That's why I'm so hung up on the pcf version.
[04:07] <navaburo> dragonfyre13, understood
[04:07] <Isaiah_the_Marty> we'll find out in a minute i guess
[04:07] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: yep.
[04:07] <Isaiah_the_Marty> the pull down for the burning device is empty dragonfyre13
[04:07] <jtholmes> anemone: correct  /lib/modules
[04:08] <Senesence> odyssevs: I don't understand why it wont work. I mean pcf is the originally supported linux font format right?
[04:08] <anemone> jthomles, nice use of du =] 
[04:08] <odyssevs> Senesence, so I believe.
[04:08] <jtholmes> anemone: w30 makes a good point I was not aware of that problem
[04:08] <w30> anemone, open up the add remove menu and search nvidia or maybe synaptic and search nvidia
[04:08] <odyssevs> Senesence, however the bloke's site does say the font is expected to look bad in say, Word editors, or when printed.
[04:08] <jtholmes> anemone: either way you want to see if the module(s) are in /lib/modules
[04:08] <Isaiah_the_Marty> dragonfyre13, it doesnt have a pull down for the device
[04:09] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: then your device is not setup correctly. when you insert a cd, can you see it? if it has stuff on it?
[04:09] <Senesence> I tryed it in terminal and it was crap there too.
[04:09] <odyssevs> Senesence, the system > fonts dialogue offers some font display tweaks. I would try that, see whether she polishes off a bit.
[04:09] <Isaiah_the_Marty> usually dragonfyre13
[04:09] <Isaiah_the_Marty> but theres nothing on this one
[04:09] <Crescendo> My friend, a Linux newb, is having trouble with her touchpad on a Toshiba laptop - it seems to randomly stop working, and completely not work when on a USB mouse.  Suggestions?
[04:09] <anemone> jtholmes, ok there are finds in kernel/drivers/char kernel/drivers/video volitile/nvidia-legacy.ko
[04:09] <Isaiah_the_Marty> and it didnt show up when i put it in
[04:09] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: that's what I figured. Is it recognising it as a burnable device?
[04:09] <odyssevs> Senesence, yes, well I'm given to thinking the author has been romantic in his 'salesmanship.'
[04:09] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i dont think so
[04:10] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: let's start this way, are you using xubuntu, or ubuntu, or kubuntu
[04:10] <Isaiah_the_Marty> usually the little icon shows up on the desktop
[04:10] <Isaiah_the_Marty> its not doing that now
[04:10] <Senesence> odyssevs: I just cant believe that it's so impossible to do something such as installing a font.
[04:10] <Isaiah_the_Marty> ubuntu
[04:10] <Isaiah_the_Marty> but i'm on xfce desktop
[04:10] <Avagant> should i try this kde desktop?
[04:10] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: ok, that makes it easy.
[04:10] <Avagant> is it possible to switch between gnome and kde?
[04:10] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: yes.
[04:10] <jtholmes> anemone: good now reboot and after you come up  run  lsmod and see if the module is loaded then if it is not loaded then execute  modprobe -r nvidia-legacy
[04:11] <lufis> How do I view an audio CD in Nautilus without Sound Juicer opening?
[04:11] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: ok, so you are using xubuntu for all intesive purposes.
[04:11] <jtholmes> anemone:  and the driver should load
[04:11] <Phoul> How do i convert a bin to a iso
[04:11] <Phoul> ?
[04:11] <andrewcool> use a converter?
[04:11] <Phoul> which one>
[04:11] <andrewcool> google it?
[04:11] <odyssevs> Senesence, system > fonts > advanced > open font folder, drag & drop ttf and apparently you're done. Seems as easy as Windows. Alas, the pcf version of a font is another story. Maybe there's a script/prog which does pcf installations for the less savvy among us.
[04:11] <andrewcool> bin to iso converter
[04:11] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: How so?
[04:11] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i guess dragonfyre13
[04:11] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: it won't show up the burning device on the desktop in XFCE, since it doesn't use a desktop like nautilus does.
[04:11] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i dont use gnome much anymore
[04:11] <kitche> Phoul: bchuck I think it's called
[04:11] <kitche> !bchuck
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bchuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <Isaiah_the_Marty> it does every other time dragonfyre13
[04:12] <Isaiah_the_Marty> just not now with the empty dvd
[04:12] <Senesence> odyssevs: Yea, well thanks for trying.
[04:12] <lufis> How do I unregister Sound Juicer from handling audio CDs?
[04:12] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: just install kubuntu-desktop under ubuntu, or vice versa. Then when logging in through gdm, chose a different desktop environment.
[04:12] <Phoul> bchuck isnt in apt
[04:12] <Avagant> gdm?
[04:12] <anemone> argh, shifg+backspace is killingme
[04:12] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: OK, that must be the new thunar integration. have you burned anything before/
[04:13] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: what's gdm?
[04:13] <odyssevs> Senesence, mind you, when I right click the pcf itself and select "open with gnome font viewer" I don't see a font, merely the empty font viewer.
[04:13] <Avagant> oh gnome desktop manager?
[04:13] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: where you type in your username password.
[04:13] <Avagant> does it give you a choice between the 2?
[04:13] <Phoul> anyone know how to convert .bin to .iso
[04:13] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: right at the start.
[04:13] <Isaiah_the_Marty> no dragonfyre13
[04:13] <Isaiah_the_Marty> this is a first
[04:13] <anemone> w30, it looks like i did install the nvidia and ubuntu versions of the driver
[04:13] <Senesence> odyssevs: Yea I know that too,lol
[04:13] <Avagant> is it kubuntu or kde?
[04:13] <Senesence> And still no one knows
[04:13] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: it'l have a dropdown
[04:13] <anemone> i wouldn't have done that if on reboot x was not failing
[04:14] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: you want to install kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <anemone> w30, but now i need to remove the nvida version
[04:14] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: ok, let me see what I can dig up.
[04:15] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: it will default to gnome, and you have to specifically choose KDE to boot there. It has a dropdown before you even type your username.
[04:15] <Avagant> wow 156 packages!
[04:15] <Taim> so where would be the best place to get help with the following:
[04:16] <Taim> root@nenene:/var/log# fglrxinfo
[04:16] <Taim> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:16] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Do you by any chance know how to install a PCF font.
[04:16] <Avagant> Then I would have to reboot, and that's a big boo.
[04:16] <Taim> Not running xgl either.
[04:16] <Avagant> I hate rebooting.
[04:16] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: what do you mean?
[04:16] <blind> My VNC server won't work. I try to connect to it, it says unable to connect. I try to run Xvnc, it says it's running on display 0 -- so why won't it connect?
[04:17] <bimberi> Taim: you're running that as root.  Are you logged into X as root or is that a 'sudo -i' session?
[04:17] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Do you know how to install a bitmap font (.pcf), linux doesnt seem to recognize it
[04:17] <Taim> bimberi: sorry, I ran the last as root, however I was running it previously as the logged in user.
[04:17] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: gimme a sec. I'll find it.
[04:17] <sjust1216> is anyone having trouble with the theme manager in edgy
[04:17] <Taim> bimberi: same error.
[04:17] <Crescendo> My friend, a Linux newb, is having trouble with her touchpad on a Toshiba laptop - it seems to randomly stop working, and completely not work when on a USB mouse.  Suggestions?
[04:17] <tjb891> how do you turn off a service like a nessus server?
[04:18] <theunruled> Hi everyone. I'm 3 days new to Ubuntu and Linux and I have 2 questions that's bothering me.
[04:18] <bimberi> Taim: ah, if it's happening as the logged in user then i'm not sure sorry
[04:18] <blind> theunruled: let's hear em
[04:18] <bimberi> !edgy
[04:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:19] <theunruled> 1: I installed ubuntu normally and grub showed me 5 choices excluding my xp
[04:19] <Phoul> can someone tell me where i can find bchuck
[04:19] <theunruled> there're 2 versions of ubuntu listed, each has a normal and recovery, plus an additional memory test option
[04:19] <theunruled> is that normal?
[04:19] <jrib> Phoul: bchunk?
[04:19] <TomChims> !xgl
[04:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:20] <blind> theunruled: you probably have two separate kernels.
[04:20] <john> How do I reinstall drivers that came with the Easy Ubuntu package?
[04:20] <theunruled> blind: any idea how I made that happen?
[04:20] <Deramin> theunruled: perfectly normal. I have the same thing
[04:20] <blind> hmmm, ubotu should be updated. compiz = no more. it's all about beryl now.
[04:20] <theunruled> but why would it install 2 kernels?
[04:20] <blind> theunruled: it's not a big deal.
[04:20] <poningru> !java
[04:20] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:20] <theunruled> hmm okay
[04:20] <blind> theunruled: I have two installed, as well.
[04:21] <theunruled> I see
[04:21] <theunruled> okay 2nd one is more problematic
[04:21] <blind> kk
[04:21] <theunruled> I cannot modify anything in / or /usr or /etc or etc
[04:21] <theunruled> the only folder i can modify is my home
[04:21] <blind> not without root.
[04:21] <bimberi> theunruled: that will happen as you keep up to date with the updates, new versions of the kernel will be installed, each time adding new entries to the grub menu.  You can reduce the number by removing older kernel versions.  Personally I don't bother.
[04:21] <Gevaudan82> theunruled: because you aren't root...use sudo isntead
[04:22] <ravenwritingdesk> I've got a whole bunch of wireless drivers pre-installed, how can I tell which one my wireless card is actually using?
[04:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell theunruled about sudo
[04:22] <blind> !beryl
[04:22] <theunruled> bimberi: so I need to modify the grub files with sudo commands
[04:22] <theunruled> ?
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <TomChims> !conky
[04:22] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB
[04:22] <odyssevs> Senesence, did you run FontPath by the way?
[04:22] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: OK, I've got it.
[04:22] <Gevaudan82> theunruled: sudo vim /etc/myconfig.conf is just one example
[04:22] <bimberi> theunruled: no, you can remove the kernels using a package management tool (such as synaptic).
[04:22] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: nevermind
[04:23] <Senesence> odyssevs: Just a sec
[04:23] <Gevaudan82> bimberi: yes you can
[04:23] <dragonfyre13> SeanTater: OK, I got it.
[04:23] <dragonfyre13> SeanTater: nevermind
[04:23] <bimberi> Gevaudan82: ?
[04:23] <theunruled> so the files *should* be locked? Because I see this little lock on every folder icon, but i saw a few ubuntu screenshots that don't have those locks
[04:23] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: OK, I got it.
[04:23] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: yes
[04:23] <Gevaudan82> bimberi: you can definitly remove and install kernels assuming they are in the apt-get repos using synaptic
[04:23] <theunruled> bimberi: oh, wouldn't dmg other kernels right?
[04:23] <Avagant> this is gonna take a while.
[04:24] <bimberi> Gevaudan82: that's what i said
[04:24] <Gevaudan82> bimberi: anything else, then sure you gotta compile yourself
[04:24] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: got that?
[04:24] <Gevaudan82> bimberI: oops...words blurring together again, sorry
[04:24] <Avagant> does kde have more ability to change the look of things?
[04:24] <bimberi> theunruled: no
[04:24] <bimberi> Gevaudan82: np :)
[04:25] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: depends on who you ask. I think gnome does.
[04:25] <Gevaudan82> avagant: probally..though it easier to install themes in gnome
[04:25] <odyssevs> Senesence, just to recap, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25540/
[04:25] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Should I leave the pcf file gzipped?
[04:25] <dragonfyre13> That's fine, I think.
[04:25] <blind> ubotu: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/
[04:25] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: I'll try it
[04:25] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: That's fine, I think. For now, just ungzip it.
[04:26] <Avagant> It's just now unpacking this crap. Haha
[04:26] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: k
[04:26] <Avagant> Wow, what'd I do?
[04:26] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: What do you mean?
[04:26] <fildo> anyone here have an opinion on using a 3rd party firmware update for a linksys router?
[04:26] <Gevaudan82> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJG-OeCB-L8&NR  <-- whoah
[04:26] <odyssevs> dragonfyre13, you sent something to Senesence? Wouldn't mind being privy to that too..
[04:26] <Avagant> Haha now it's just taking along time, but apparently there's alot of stuff.
[04:26] <Gevaudan82> fildo: use ddwrt if you do so...it's quite painless
[04:26] <Avagant> "no" i mean.
[04:26] <dragonfyre13> odyssevs: here you go.
[04:26] <Avagant> 150 some packages!
[04:27] <theunruled> okay, I do find 2 linux images in synaptic. Last confirmation, removing one wouldn't bother the other right? ^^; i'm kinda scared
[04:27] <fildo> Gevaudan82: i was actually looking into that . but dont want to courupt hardware
[04:28] <andrewcool> Whats that 5 dollar router, where like there aliens, umm and others
[04:28] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: you just got a whole new desktop environment. Heck yeah theres a lot.
[04:28] <Avagant> are there more gnome desktop configuration options.
[04:28] <Avagant> ?!
[04:28] <nu> guys, anyone know about glade?
[04:28] <Gevaudan82> fildo: you won't...just make sure you are plugged into  a reliable power supply and are flashing to ddwrt from any original linksys firmware...if you want to shop around, always reflash   to the original linksys firmware before flashing to a different firmware
[04:28] <Avagant> as long as i have this i might as well make it worth it.
[04:28] <Avagant> !glade
[04:28] <ubotu> glade: GTK+ 2 User Interface Builder. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.12.1-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 299 kB, installed size 4916 kB
[04:28] <nu> tNo i know
[04:28] <odyssevs> dragonfyre13, cheers. I gave him http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25540/ (and forgot to add the directory after mkfontdir). Cheers mate.
[04:28] <nu> the question is, if i made an app using glade
[04:28] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: that's my thinking.
[04:28] <nu> will it run on KDE/
[04:29] <nu> or just gnome?
[04:29] <andrewcool> ok its fon
[04:29] <dragonfyre13> odyssevs: hehehe. great minds.
[04:29] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: I accidently fell into Ubuntu to begin with.
[04:29] <tjb891> I am using nessus to scan my own network and now my computer is running a nessus server, how do i turn this off becasue i only want it on when im using nessus and it is booting with it now?
[04:29] <ladydoor> nu: it'll run--you just need to have gtk libs installed
[04:29] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: what do you mean?
[04:29] <nu> ladydoor: thank you
[04:29] <nikolai> dragonfyre13,  Isaiah_the_Martyr
[04:29] <ladydoor> np
[04:29] <Avagant> My sound on windoze was screwed up, i got a new soundcard it still didn't work and then I tried to do a complete reinstall but the cd was busted.
[04:29] <nikolai> k3b says that i dont have any writers
[04:29] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, I have officially lost track of Rodrigos who play the guitar.
[04:29] <Gevaudan82> tjb891:  sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf && sudo sysv-rc-conf and then turn off nessusd
[04:30] <ubuntu_> After enabling wifi, boot up halts when "configuring network interfaces." How do you get a desktop?
[04:30] <dragonfyre13> nikolai:  ?
[04:30] <Avagant> I screwed myself over.
[04:30] <dragonfyre13> nikolai: I'm waiting for pages to load on the other desktop.
[04:30] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: i was blown away...i can't belive in our country 50 cent and britney spears make it to the top of the charts
[04:30] <tjb891> Gevaudan82:what is sysv-rc?
[04:30] <Gevaudan82> rjb891: a tool to configure boot services
[04:30] <nikolai> when i put the disc in k3b doesnt find it
[04:31] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, this particular Rodrigo puts on a good show. What's his full name, or band name?
[04:31] <tjb891> ok
[04:31] <clearzen> How do you share a folder with the network via the command line?
[04:31] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: no clue honestly
[04:31] <bimberi> ubuntu_: try hitting CTRL-C at that point
[04:31] <tjb891> but how do i turn off services from the command line
[04:31] <ubuntu_> Gevaudan82: George Bush as the pres too. - somethings just aren't funny.
[04:31] <Avagant> I shouldn't download alot of stuff, but man.
[04:31] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: there's a couple other vis w/ him
[04:31] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: vids i mean
[04:31] <ubuntu_> bimberi - didn't work
[04:31] <bimberi> tjb891: invoke-rc.d (temporarily) update-rc.d (permanently)
[04:31] <Avagant> I can't help it!
[04:31] <Governor> when i type eject in console, the cd drive opens, but i have two drives. how do i get the other one open? sometimes the icon on desktop doesn't show the eject option
[04:32] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: ah, got it. I thought you were reminding me about yourself. I was thinking, "I'm searching man!"
[04:32] <Isaiah_the_Marty> do i have to mount it or something?
[04:32] <ubuntu_> bimberi - looks like i can't get a console for f2-f7 either.
[04:32] <bimberi> ubuntu_: hm, perhaps try it just as the "configuring..." message appears
[04:32] <odyssevs> clearzen, http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=396486
[04:32] <Isaiah_the_Marty> oh
[04:32] <Isaiah_the_Marty> lol
[04:32] <Isaiah_the_Marty> sorry
[04:32] <ubuntu_> bimberi - nah, nothing.
[04:32] <bimberi> ubuntu_: yes, it probably hasn't started them yet
[04:32] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, true progress for the benefit of the individual is not promoted by the state. Thought we all learned that by 5? =P
[04:33] <ubuntu_> grub options to disable networking?
[04:33] <Avagant> I'm gonng have to mount my cd burner probably to actually brn cd like I want to.
[04:33] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: did you get that?
[04:33] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: i guess i assume if we are the melting pot we'd be better soup than we are now
[04:33] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, I wouldn't turn down an evening having a drink with this bloke in the corner. Good stuff.
[04:33] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: ?
[04:33] <ubuntu_> bimberi - What file controls wifi modules being started?
[04:33] <Avagant> dragonfyre?
[04:34] <theunruled> sorry, 1 more question. My ubuntu can find my USB extneral drive but it's read only. Anyway to modify it?
[04:34] <Avagant> chmod! no don't do it.
[04:34] <clearzen> odyssevs: thank you. That link should give me the info I need
[04:34] <rockstar_> Hm, I just installed Kubuntu on my laptop, taking it for a spin (I'm a Debian user).  I installed e17 and entrance, but something is not setting the PATH when it starts entrance.  Where should I look to find where the $PATH environment variable is?
[04:34] <Gevaudan82> rockstar_ ~/.bash_profile is a start
[04:34] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: We all have the chronic downloader syndrome.
[04:34] <Avagant> I can't help it, all these cool things I keep finding for Ubuntu.
[04:34] <bimberi> ubuntu_: idk sorry, if you know the module you can prevent it being loaded by blacklisting it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:35] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: That didn't work. Did you get it to work on your distro. Im trying to get this font to work http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/
[04:35] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, all excellent things have the same core principles. The superficial differences are irrelevant. And for anyone who complains about the state of civilisations, I tell them.. a coward dies a thousand times, a brave man dies once.
[04:35] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: I've been in it a few years, and I'm still finding stuff.
[04:35] <Avagant> Get Listen Player, it's friggin awesome.
[04:35] <jtholmes> theunruled: is there a write disable button on the drive
[04:35] <rockstar_> Gevaudan82, hm, my default shell is zsh.  However, most of the Xsession xinitrc etc scripts are run through bash.  I'll check it out.
[04:35] <Avagant> Lyrics and last.fm scrobbler!
[04:35] <marcusgrazette> hi, does anyone know if installing the ntfsmount tool and the ntfs-fuse user-space filesystem driver will allow me to use gparted to create an ext3 partition on a disk that has only one ntfs partition? I'm aiming to be able to resize that ntfs partition and create the ext3 next to it
[04:35] <theunruled> jtholmes: a write disable button on the drive? where would I find that?
[04:35] <Avagant> The only 2 things I need in the world besides Soulseek/Nicotine and sound.
[04:36] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: let me play for a few minutes.
[04:36] <Deramin> Anyone know if Anjuta has it's own help channel?
[04:36] <Isaiah_the_Marty> dragonfyre13, did you get it?
[04:36] <Isaiah_the_Marty> * Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[04:36] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: I'll come up with an answer.
[04:36] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Please, I need closure, lol
[04:36] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: nope.
[04:36] <jtholmes> theunruled: if there was one you would know it  just  unmount  and  remount using   mount -o rw  ...
[04:36] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: pastebin it.
[04:36] <alex_ubuntu> Avantgant: What is listen player
[04:36] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, Linux has this. There's something fundamentally special about it, where we progress, individually, and learn to be strategic and thorough. Something which the media, educational institutes, and all groups in general are not inclined to teach a person. =)
[04:37] <Avagant> Hurry up and set up so I can see what this looks like.
[04:37] <theunruled> jtholmes: hmm... i'm rather new to linux
[04:37] <Avagant> I'm 3 days new to Linux.
[04:37] <Avagant> Well 4 days.
[04:37] <theunruled> so what should I look for when u unmout and mount
[04:37] <theunruled> Avagant: about same here
[04:37] <bimberi> ubuntu_: another method would be to remove the /etc/rcS.d/S40networking symlink.  You might need a live cd as i think recovery mode will try to start it up too
[04:37] <odyssevs> clearzen, did that page clear up your question?
[04:37] <jtholmes> theunruled: ok execute  mount  command and see where the drive is mounted problbly  /media/usbdisk  etc.
[04:37] <Avagant> Windows died, I can't remember the exact day.
[04:37] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: i can attest to this...last semester in grad school...learned more hacking away on my own than ever in school
[04:37] <ubuntu_> bimberi - bimberi - Great idea! - can you help me do it?
[04:37] <Avagant> I've learned more using Linux then ever in my life.
[04:38] <Avagant> I've also almost had a nervous breakdown because of it.
[04:38] <jtholmes> theunruled: if it automounted then  df -k  will not list it
[04:38] <Isaiah_the_Marty> dragonfyre13,  [17179577.036000]  hdc: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-C2612, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[04:38] <Isaiah_the_Marty> [17179577.764000]  Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[04:38] <Isaiah_the_Marty> [17179608.232000]  cdrom: open failed.
[04:38] <Isaiah_the_Marty> then it just goes on with cdrom: open failed a couple more times
[04:38] <ubuntu_> ln -s adds a link right? - how do you rmove one?
[04:38] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: that's why i'm so impressed with ubuntu...the free as in free idiology and the fact that they are offering long term support...i see big things in the future for ubuntu
[04:38] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, absolutely. Anyway thanks for the Yet Another Rodrigo =)
[04:39] <theunruled> jtholmes: hm ok
[04:39] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: it looks like you don't have a burner. Are you sure it burns? It looks like a general DVD drive.
[04:39] <jtholmes> theunruled: so where is it mounted
[04:39] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, well, distros come and go. Ubuntu won't be around forever. Maybe she'll be in the top five for a couple of years, but new and better projects are bound to replace her.
[04:39] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: OK, I've got an answer.
[04:39] <Avagant> I've got the question!
[04:39] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: kfontview
[04:40] <theunruled> jtholmes: i'm not sure
[04:40] <Avagant> kfontview?
[04:40] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: it's a program that will allow you to install all sorts of fonts, including ttf and pcf
[04:40] <theunruled> i don't have the drive with me at the moment
[04:40] <Avagant> Oh my.
[04:40] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: neat, huh?
[04:40] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Im the font guy
[04:40] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: it's not exactly easy to gain so much community involvement in such a short amount of time...and a community that is open to new users even more rare...i think she's here to stay
[04:40] <jtholmes> theunruled: do you see a line containing   /media/usbdisk
[04:40] <ubuntu_> bimberi - man unlink - says it will remove the file. - is that good?
[04:40] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: Ah. Sorry Avagant
[04:40] <Isaiah_the_Marty> dragonfyre13, it says its a dvd/cd burner
[04:41] <theunruled> jtholmes: i don't have the disk connected at the moment
[04:41] <Avagant> Hey wait, will all my sound and stuff work with kde?
[04:41] <marcusgrazette> hi, does anyone know if i can use ubuntu to resize an ntfs partition and create an ext3 partition alongside it?
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> Gevaudan82, that line reminds me of gentoo community ... open to new users ... :P
[04:41] <Avagant> Because it's setting up players and stuff?
[04:41] <theunruled> jtholmes: i'll check when i get home
[04:41] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: apt-get install kcontrol
[04:41] <bimberi> ubuntu_: no you can just delete the link with 'rm'
[04:41] <jtholmes> theunruled: ok
[04:41] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, and that's ok. We move on, close one project and begin another. Linux does require the investment of time and energy, the exercising of the brain - so it is not truly free at all. For some of us, accustomed to $100/hour wages, we spend tens of hours working out a solution. The more we value our time, the better our aptitude and the greater our ability to decypher the available information, the more we can achi
[04:41] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: then, kfontview from the commandline
[04:41] <Isaiah_the_Marty> can i burn it as data dragonfyre13 ?
[04:41] <Gevaudan82> Avagant: no way to tell...mine did and my computer just came out a couple months ago (dell precision 390)
[04:41] <theunruled> !mount
[04:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> btw its not just ubuntu which is very newbie friendly ...
[04:41] <Isaiah_the_Marty> would that work?
[04:41] <ubuntu_> bimberi - What does it link to?
[04:42] <odyssevs> In all this Linux forces us to be forward-thinking, logic-based people. If you acquire all that, viz, what is a possibility, then it pays off.
[04:42] <Avagant> If I use kde is it going to change all my sound settings and what not?
[04:42] <dragonfyre13> Isaiah_the_Marty: it's not even recognising it as a burnable drive. I'm researching further. Dang torrents and updates, taking up my bandwidth takes forever to load the forum pages.
[04:42] <Isaiah_the_Marty> lol same
[04:42] <bimberi> ubuntu_: /etc/rcS.d/S40networking: symbolic link to `../init.d/networking'
[04:42] <lufis> How do I view an audio CD's contents in Nautilus? Every time I try to open the mount point Sound Juicer insists on opening
[04:42] <dennis_> well I just got another laptop up  and running with a bcm4319 w/ WPA, no the strange thing is whne I reboot the system, sometimes the wireless card shows up as eth2 or wlan0
[04:42] <dennis_> any ideas ??
[04:42] <dragonfyre13> dennis_: demon computer?
[04:43] <dennis_> demon?????
[04:43] <dragonfyre13> dennis_: ^_^
[04:43] <ubuntu_> bimberi - okay, I'll take a look there. - Thanks :)
[04:43] <Lam_> what's the difference between Edgy RC1 and Edgy Final?
[04:43] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: is kde going to change all my sound settings and everything?
[04:43] <bimberi> ubuntu_: np, good luck :)
[04:43] <dragonfyre13> dennis_: devil computer.
[04:43] <Gevaudan82> wickedpuppy: gentoo, open to new users? wow, surprised that's their mo now...gentoo's ok, but when i installed it i couldn't see any real performance benefit...emerge and gentoo's optimization are kind of like SElinux in my opinion...only beneficial if you know its capabilities inside and out which accounts for about .05% of us
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> Lam_, one is RC1 and another is final ?
[04:43] <theunruled> jtholmes: thx for the help =] 
[04:43] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: nope.
[04:43] <dennis_> thats what I though you ment
[04:43] <mikesdesktopsyst> if i have a harddrive that is ntfs and i want to play music off of it in linux, would i need to use samba or another type of program?
[04:43] <jtholmes> theunruled: anytime
[04:43] <theunruled> I'm trying to get ncmpc to work but I have no idea what I'm doing
[04:43] <Avagant> It's setting up these players and stuff, I was getting worried.
[04:44] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: everything will pretty much stay the same, except for the insane amount of programs you will have.
[04:44] <tritium> mikesdesktopsyst: no, you can safely read ntfs
[04:44] <jtholmes> Lam_: are u asking what RC1 stands for?
[04:44] <wickedpuppy> Gevaudan82, you were talking about friendly communities .. not geek communities .. as far as friendly community goes check out #gentoo
[04:44] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Got kfontview up what do I do now?
[04:44] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: things will only change if you make them.
[04:44] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, all great projects come to a close, and lead the way into newer ones. For one reason or another. When we become stuck with a picture which doesn't fit the reality, we regress. Same with dating, same with loyalty to one's country. All these relationships come and go. Ubuntu will eventually breed life into different projects. That's just life. =)
[04:44] <Avagant> ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SOME
[04:44] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: open it.
[04:44] <dennis_> so anyone seen this issue before nic card showing up as eht2 or wlan0 when it wants to
[04:44] <Avagant> It's still setting up.
[04:44] <Lam_> jtholmes: no. i know what it is.  i was referring more along the lines of the differences because the Release Schedule has the RC1 listed as a "pre-production" release
[04:45] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: oh, and click the little open button.
[04:45] <Lam_> jtholmes: which to me, sounds like a final version before the version sticker is slapped on it
[04:45] <marcusgrazette> ubotu: i dont want to make a filesystem, just a regular ext3 partition
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i dont want to make a filesystem, just a regular ext3 partition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <mister_roboto_> mikesdesktopsyst: no you wouldn't have to. you can just mount the win partition and read from it
[04:45] <odyssevs> Ah good old kfontview, forgot it existed!
[04:45] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: You are little. I had over 2 gig setting up one time. That was sick.
[04:45] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: Wait are all my gnome programs going to disappear?
[04:46] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: Like I have last-exit and nicotine in gnome, are they gonna go away?
[04:46] <Gevaudan82> for reading and writing ntfs partition check out the link at ubuntuguide.org...i've tested both and they work perfectly...though i only write to an ntfs drive that stores non-system files
[04:46] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: nope. They'll be there, just accompanied by the KDE ones.
[04:46] <Avagant> Oh.
[04:46] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: in fact, they will be there on both the KDE menu, and the Gnome one. Same with the KDE apps.
[04:46] <jtholmes> Lam_: quite close, it is one step before the final and they hope to find any remaining show stoppers before final release
[04:46] <theunruled> thanks for all the help guys
[04:46] <Avagant> Oh, sweet.
[04:46] <theunruled> i'm running out of battery
[04:46] <Avagant> Maybe I shouldn't have done this. Haha
[04:46] <theunruled> bye bye
[04:46] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Ok I got it open there was an error because it could not find the font name, and some other errors within console, but it's open
[04:46] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, what about writing to ext3 from NTFS?
[04:47] <Avagant> haha
[04:47] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: you'll just have massive menus. I reccomend rightclicking the menu, and clicking edit menu, then checking off most of the boxes.
[04:47] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: that's normal.
[04:47] <Gevaudan82> odssevs: there's tools to do so...been forever since i've done it though
[04:47] <odyssevs> jtholmes, which kernel are they putting in the next release?
[04:47] <tritium> odyssevs: 2.6.17
[04:47] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: just click the blue folder, and select the font file.
[04:47] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: So what now?
[04:47] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: will i be able to make the bottom task bar crazy awesome?
[04:47] <odyssevs> tritium, r2 I hope?
[04:47] <Rasta> someone has tried photoshop under vmware or another virtual machine? i have it installed with wine but it has some problems it isnt useful for serious work
[04:48] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Did that, it's open
[04:48] <Lam_> what would happen if i tried to use the Edgy repositories with Dapper?
[04:48] <tritium> odyssevs: we'll see
[04:48] <jtholmes> Lam_: i dont know i looked at the release page earlier and did not see a ref to the kernel
[04:48] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: but my setup involves me writing from my windows xp laptop to my ext3 server so i just use samba
[04:48] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: if you really feel like it. Check out Gnome-look.org and KDE-look.org.\
[04:48] <tritium> Lam_: you'd have to upgrade so many packages that you might as well just do a full dist-upgrade
[04:48] <odyssevs> tritium, should put me one step closer to wifing on Linux. Gaaah I'll miss going bald.
[04:48] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: hang on. I'll get there.
[04:48] <Gevaudan82> Lam_: be prepared for a headache if you are trying to upgrade
[04:48] <tritium> odyssevs: why, what's the problem?
[04:48] <jtholmes> Lam_: however, i suspect that with the final being the 26th of this month the current kernel would be the one used it is quite late in the game to change that
[04:49] <Gevaudan82> Lam_: it'll get easier, but edgy is still beta...october 26th release date i think
[04:49] <Lam_> jtholmes: yeah. i think they froze the kernel in mid september
[04:49] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, samba appeared once too often on my Secunia list for comfort.
[04:49] <Lam_> Gevaudan82: ok thanks
[04:49] <jtholmes> Lam_: yes i seem to remember seeing frozeon on some items and the kernel was probably one of them they run a tight ship
[04:49] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: I sound like a complete n00b but will all my codecs and things still be there?
[04:50] <odyssevs> tritium, can't bring my bcm43xx card to life.
[04:50] <tritium> odyssevs: not even with ndiswrapper?
[04:50] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: i've passed a nessus scan with no problems...but i just use it locally behind a router/firewall so i'm not worried...i use pptpd to access samba shares remotely or plain old ssh
[04:50] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: yep.
[04:50] <odyssevs> tritium, tried it.
[04:50] <Avagant> Hurray for progress!
[04:50] <dragonfyre13> Avagant: don't panic. Everything will be the same as if you just installed new programs.
[04:50] <tritium> odyssevs: works for most
[04:50] <Avagant> I wonder how many actual gb this is going to take. Haha
[04:50] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, god bless iptables =)
[04:50] <odyssevs> tritium, adds to the frustration.
[04:50] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> is it possible to install ubuntu to a usb drive? How much space would it need?
[04:51] <Avagant> wow this really is taking a long time.
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> what is the linux source dir ?
[04:51] <Jahooty> i've got a minor issue, in the repositories list (xubuntu, 6.06) i have no 'multiverse' listed,
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> what is the linux source dir ? /usr/src/linux ?
[04:51] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: the internet could use a better getting started guide for iptables as it's really not bad but it's intimidating for most reading the iptables bible or whatever it is called..the comprehensive guide
[04:51] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: I lied. Exit out, and type kcontrol and go to system administration, and then to font installer.
[04:51] <tritium> Jahooty: you can easily add it
[04:51] <cpl-tnt44> what is the linux source dir ? /usr/src/linux ?
[04:51] <Jahooty> cool, i was hoping it's easy
[04:51] <tritium> cpl-tnt44: you need to install the source first
[04:51] <Jahooty> cant find it's information tho,
[04:52] <Gevaudan82> cpl-tn44: do a search for apt-get install linux-headers
[04:52] <morphir> anyone installed engage(the dock) sucessfully on LTS 6.06?
[04:52] <Avagant> Ok, it just finished.
[04:52] <tritium> Gevaudan82: headers and source packages are not the same
[04:52] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: then, go to administration mode, and click add fonts.
[04:52] <cpl-tnt44> Gevaudan82> whats the connncetion ?
[04:52] <dragonfyre13> Select the unzipped pcf font.
[04:52] <Gevaudan82> tritum: i didn't realize that...carry on :)
[04:52] <odyssevs> tritium, I am convinced it would work.. however I'm a bit too old to get my head around all the various tricks.
[04:52] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: Select the unzipped pcf font.
[04:52] <Jahooty> does it matter that i'm running xubuntu?
[04:53] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Im using gnome, will any of this work
[04:53] <cpl-tnt44> i wanna install a linux wireless card drivers and it asks me some qustions when i do 'make config'
[04:53] <tritium> Gevaudan82: but, you're right, often times, one really only needs the headers.  e.g., to build modules...
[04:53] <cpl-tnt44> Geva ,i wanna install a linux wireless card drivers and it asks me some qustions when i do 'make config'
[04:53] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: that's why you go to admin mode. It will work, it installs it in a common area.
[04:53] <cpl-tnt44> i wanna get them right u know
[04:53] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: I use gnome too.
[04:53] <suff0kate> this is gonna be a odd question but is there a battle.net bot?
[04:53] <Avagant> dragonfyre13: I'm going to reboot wish me luck. Haha
[04:53] <tritium> cpl-tnt44: for which wireless card?  You shouldn't need to compile them...
[04:54] <Gevaudan82> cpl-tn44: tried searching for the exact string you are asked in google? typically you'll find a forum post or two
[04:54] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, you might fancy La Bottine Souriante too.. small group from Quebec. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRCu24-d_RY
[04:54] <Gevaudan82> cpl-tn44: in quotes all the same
[04:54] <cpl-tnt44> tritum Netgear MA401
[04:54] <ksmurf> I'm trying to use a serial port I have for a virt machine but it says it's locked.  can I chown it or is there a better way?
[04:54] <rowanjl> how do you stop a service?
[04:54] <rowanjl> Oh, and Hello :P
[04:54] <cpl-tnt44> tritum ?
[04:54] <tritium> rowanjl: invoke-rc.d <servicename> stop
[04:55] <jtholmes> rowanjl: what service
[04:55] <rowanjl> ok
[04:55] <tritium> (with sudo first)
[04:55] <cpl-tnt44> tritum ? do u think using the ndiswrapper is good here ? instead of the linux driver the vendor supplies ?
[04:55] <tritium> cpl-tnt44: I'd definitely try it first.
[04:55] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: george carlin and the p funk meets riverdance...not bad at all
[04:55] <lufis> Why is Ubuntu so bloody persistent on forcing me to use Sound Juicer?
[04:55] <morphir> see this guide ppl: http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/04/engage-on-dapper-drake
[04:55] <odyssevs> tritium, something you could pass up the line to the fellows working on the next release. Probably tracked, but anyway - when accessing a dialogue requiring the root pass, if you hit the caps lock towards the end of the password, the window resizes slightly. Disengaging it causes the window to resize again, but improperly.
[04:55] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Did this work on your end? It's not recognizing it as a font
[04:55] <cpl-tnt44> tritium , mmm so i'd use the winxp inf files or the linux inf files ?
[04:56] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: Hmm. Hang on
[04:56] <tritium> cpl-tnt44: should be winxp
[04:56] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: been listining to this old crow medicine show track on repeat most of the night..."Wagon Wheel" is the name
[04:56] <rowanjl>  * Stopping web server lighttpd                                          [fail] 
[04:56] <tritium> odyssevs: file a bug!
[04:56] <rowanjl> bloody thing!
[04:56] <tritium> rowanjl: does it need a bandage?
[04:56] <odyssevs> gah. =)
[04:56] <rowanjl> it needs a hammer... on its skill
[04:57] <Netslayer> how can i install ubuntu on a bootable fake or software raid? i've tried the guides, server, desktop iso's and always something screws up
[04:57] <Gevaudan82> Netslayer: not to  change the subject, but is a software raid really worth your trouble?
[04:57] <Netslayer> dapper and edgy both have issues with dmraid with my nvidia or sli raid chipsets.. i feel doomed
[04:57] <tritium> rowanjl: did you use sudo to stop it?
[04:57] <lufis> The CD drive is /dev/hdc mounted on /media/cdrom0. I try to open /media/cdrom0 in Nautilus and SoundJuicer is opened. I like SoundJuicer, really, but I would like to be able to just view the audio cd tracks in Nautilus!
[04:57] <Netslayer> Gevaudan82, yes
[04:57] <jtholmes> rowanjl: how do you know it is running
[04:57] <rowanjl> yeah
[04:58] <rowanjl> I know its running because its taken over localhost ;)
[04:58] <jtholmes> rowanjl: that is one way
[04:58] <rowanjl> thanks :)
[04:58] <Netslayer> i really should start filing these bugs i find
[04:58] <benguin> Hi there; anyone has a GeForce 7600 on a via kt800 pro mobo?
[04:58] <lufis> Netslayer: Makes the two of us...
[04:59] <clearzen> the updater is not letting me download any updates. It gives me this error anytime I try to update through the command line: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg
[04:59] <clearzen> along with some others but they are all either gpg or unable to fetch file
[04:59] <Flannel> clearzen: which mirrors you using? the us ones by any chance?  try changing them.
[05:00] <clearzen> where could I get a list of different repos?
[05:00] <hondje> lufis: go to system -> preferences -> removable drives and media and go to the multimedia tab
[05:00] <Gevaudan82> odyssevs: actually a link on youtube for it:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=O2vJUadjdmo
[05:00] <Flannel> clearzen: if you're using us.archive.ubuntu.com, just remove the us. from the front of all of them, just archive.ubu...
[05:00] <violot> Anyone know how to change the color of the title bar's text in GNOME?
[05:00] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: OK, I have an alternative. Go to the site, and get the ttf font.
[05:01] <violot> The Window border theme I'm using is white, and the text is white too :|
[05:01] <cycom> Crayon?
[05:01] <Netslayer> dmraid on edgy reports my chunk size isn't divisible by the space and won't give me a mapped device, dmraid on dapper gives some other error. really sad (i have nvidia and sil fake raids and neither work)
[05:01] <violot> It's..... unreadable :P
[05:01] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: then, go to nautilus, and select go to location.
[05:01] <clearzen> alright. I'll try that. Are those mirrors down? why is it doing that?
[05:01] <PFA> help! i reinstalled ubuntu and now nothing will open!
[05:01] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: then, go to font:/// and copy the font over to the directory, unzipped.
[05:01] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Yea, I know that the .ttf works, but it looks horrible, thats why I want the .pcf.
[05:01] <Flannel> clearzen: because the us mirrors go down... quite often ;)
[05:01] <Gevaudan82> PFA: specifics
[05:01] <clearzen> oh
[05:01] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: oh. I might have a fix for that. Give me a sec.
[05:02] <PFA> Gevaudan82: um . . . i installed Breezy?
[05:02] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: so there is no way to install a .pcf font?
[05:02] <odyssevs> Gevaudan82, jolly good. All I need now is the 1930s Packard =)
[05:02] <violot> Nobody?  Or nobody pays attention to me? ;)
[05:02] <Gevaudan82> PFA: what won't open? can you boot in to ubuntu? grub throwing an error? can't login? can't open programs? what?
[05:02] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: that's what I'm talking about. I know the convoluted way, but it only works on fedora.
[05:02] <PFA> Gevaudan82: can't open programs
[05:02] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: oh, and gentoo.
[05:02] <odyssevs> violot, standby.
[05:03] <Netslayer> is there a flag i can pass to the kernel when booting a livecd to stop x from starting (it locks my desktop cause it's incompatible with a 24" dell panel)
[05:03] <Gevaudan82> PFA: change your hostname
[05:03] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: I think I have a way to install PCF on ubuntu though.
[05:03] <PFA> Gevaudan82: how and to what
[05:03] <Gevaudan82> PFA: vim /etc/hostname and vim /etc/hosts
[05:03] <cute_bettong> ! ati
[05:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:03] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: If it works Ill try it
[05:03] <Gevaudan82> PFA: could be any number of things, but try that and reboot to see if it helps
[05:04] <bm0nk> I've download wlan.sh, edited it in gedit, saved it, chmod 777, then i do ./wlan.sh and it tells me      : No such file or directory    Yet im in the same directory where the file is.....IM CONFUSED :(
[05:04] <PFA> Gevaudan82: but what do i change it to?
[05:04] <Gevaudan82> PFA: anything besides what it is now
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, pastebin the ls -l and ./wlan.sh pls
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> i wanna see
[05:04] <PFA> Gevaudan82: um, okay
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> :P
[05:04] <cpl-tnt44> While sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf ,gettinf couldn't open netma401.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164 . ANY ONE have any idea\clue how to solve this !??
[05:05] <bm0nk> i cant pastebin
[05:05] <bm0nk> seperate computer
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> oh
[05:05] <bm0nk> ah
[05:05] <PFA> Gevaudan82: what the heck? I dont know how to do that
[05:05] <bm0nk> no its ok
[05:05] <bm0nk> i think i can do that
[05:05] <odyssevs> Netslayer I think if you type 'server' at the prompt it will give you text-only.
[05:05] <Netslayer> cool i'll try that next boot
[05:05] <jumbers> A ton of my thumbnails are failing to be created
[05:05] <Gevaudan82> PFA: in /etc/hosts type 127.0.0.1 ubuntu.username.lan after the line that reads 127.0.0.1 ...in /etc/hostname simply type ubuntu.username.lan replacing username in both cases
[05:06] <Netslayer> did some ubuntu mirror go down.. swears
[05:06] <Gevaudan82> PFA: you can use gedit if you are more comfortable but you have to be root to edit the files
[05:06] <cpl-tnt44> While sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf ,gettinf couldn't open netma401.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164 . ANY ONE have any idea\clue how to solve this !??
[05:06] <Netslayer> 195.248.90.54 is down
[05:06] <PFA> Gevaudan82: there is no line that says that :S
[05:07] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: there we go.
[05:07] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: run this. sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[05:07] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: when it asks if you want to enable bitmap fonts, say YES.
[05:07] <odyssevs> violot short term solution is to pick another theme.
[05:07] <Gevaudan82> PFA: type 127.0.0.1 localhost ubuntu.username.lan and then on a new line type 127.0.1.1 ubuntu.username.lan
[05:07] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: that's why nothing worked.
[05:07] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : Pasted by bm0nk October 3rd 5:07
[05:07] <violot> odyssevs: :\
[05:07] <bm0nk> oh...
[05:07] <violot> Any way just to edit the colour of the text?!
[05:08] <odyssevs> Netslayer, clearzen was reporting a problem with the US mirror.
[05:08] <bm0nk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25542
[05:08] <hondje> violot: Um, you'd think wouldn't you :-)
[05:09] <hondje> There really isn't a way to click and pick colors for various parts of your theme
[05:09] <PFA> Gevaudan82: sorry, rebooted by accident
[05:09] <violot> *Sigh* Sometimes I really do think the GNOME people oversimplify GNOME :|
[05:09] <PFA> Gevaudan82: there is no line that says that IP address
[05:09] <odyssevs> violot, perhaps a gnome-themes howto ? =))
[05:09] <clearzen> odyssevs: actually I tried the non us mirrors and it is giving me the same errors
[05:09] <Gevaudan82> PFA: type 127.0.0.1 localhost ubuntu.username.lan and then on a new line type 127.0.1.1 ubuntu.username.lan
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, its certainly weird ... try sh wlan.sh ?
[05:09] <odyssevs> clearzen, Netslayer will be delighted to hear that.
[05:09] <PFA> Gevaudan82: what are the files again?
[05:09] <Gevaudan82> PFA: then edit /etc/hostname and simply type ubuntu.username.lan ...finally reboot
[05:09] <odyssevs> clearzen, one wonders whether the Debian mirrors would do the job?
[05:09] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : woah...let me pastebin this
[05:10] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: It was already on. I did it before, it was on yes all the time.
[05:10] <Netslayer> server is up, the edgy repos were updated so an apt-get update was required on my behalf since the old deb files were removed
[05:10] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Did it work on your distro?
[05:10] <odyssevs> violot, simplicity isn't cheap - http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9877
[05:10] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
[05:10] <clearzen> It might be my sources list though. I'm going to  try a few things. like importing all the gpg keys for the repos and rebuilding my keycache
[05:10] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: yep.
[05:10] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25543
[05:10] <PFA> Gevaudan82: what is the filename
[05:10] <Gevaudan82> PFA: the first message goes in /etc/hosts
[05:11] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: The trist.pcf worked for you?
[05:11] <PFA> Gevaudan82: okay thanks
[05:11] <PFA> Gevaudan82: and um . . . where do i put the new line, lol
[05:11] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: trisk.pcf*
[05:11] <Gevaudan82> PFA: i thought you said the file was empty?
[05:11] <dragonfyre13> I used another font. bcf. Let me try this one.
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, thats even more weird ... i can't think of any other way to run a shell script .. lol
[05:11] <PFA> Gevaudan82: no, there was just no line in it with that IP address
[05:12] <PFA> Gevaudan82: actually, after a reboot, everything works :o sorry to trouble you! and thanks
[05:12] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: It here http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/
[05:12] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy :(
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, is the script very long ? if not can pastebin it as well ?
[05:12] <bm0nk> err
[05:12] <bm0nk> ill try
[05:12] <Gevaudan82> bm0nk: are you using bash? did you type #!/bin/bash at the top of the shellscript?
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> thank
[05:12] <cpl-tnt44> While sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/user/wireless/netma401.inf ,gettinf couldn't open netma401.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 164 . ANY ONE have any idea\clue how to solve this !??
[05:12] <clearzen> it keeps giving me this on a lot of the sources:
[05:12] <clearzen> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[05:12] <clearzen>   Could not connect to 62.117.35.196:8080 (62.117.35.196), connection timed out
[05:13] <clearzen> It's been giving me that error for days now
[05:13] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: yep, I'm getting it now.
[05:13] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: So trisk.pcf works for you?
[05:14] <bm0nk> Gevaudan82 : yes
[05:14] <dragonfyre13> not yet. I'm missing a switch.
[05:14] <Gevaudan82> bm0nk: did you create the shellscript in linux? if you created it windows there might be some special characters throwing it off...you can always dos2unix it
[05:14] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: hang on. Missing a switch somewhere.
[05:14] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Ok
[05:15] <Deramin> Running Ubuntu 6.06.  Apologies for the slightly off topic questions but:  1) Is there a way to convert Anjuta to a Java IDE?  2) How can I be sure I've got the Java Development Kit 5.0 installed?  I installed it from the Package Manager, but other programs are telling me that I don't have all the libraries it comes with.  3) What is the best visually rich Java IDE for Ubuntu that doesn't require projects. I only need to work with single files.
[05:15] <bm0nk> Gevaudan82 : Someone in here sent me it
[05:15] <Gevaudan82> bm0nk: i actually had that exact problem earlier today...even though i created the shellscript in linux just uploaded to a windows ftp server to download again to another linux machine...special characters appeared
[05:15] <Netslayer> dmraid on edgy: device-mapper: dm-stripe: Target length not divisible by chunk size        and nothing happens..no device..nadda
[05:15] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25544
[05:15] <bm0nk> ahhh
[05:15] <bm0nk> well someone on here gave it to me
[05:15] <bm0nk> http://kitchetech.com/docs/unix/wlan.sh
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, it look right for a shell script ..
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> try dos2unix like Gevaudan82 suggested ?
[05:16] <bm0nk> ok
[05:16] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, is the respective sys file present in the same place?
[05:16] <Gevaudan82> bm0nk:if you open it in vim you should see a ^M at the end of the line if they exist
[05:16] <bm0nk> vim ?
[05:17] <bm0nk> sorry im new to ubuntu
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> may not work .. but can't find the file ... so weird
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, vi wlan.sh
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> to quit press escape then :wq
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> just :q
[05:17] <odyssevs> bm0nk, vi is an alias for vim, a clone of the original vi.
[05:17] <Cheep-cheep> dragonfyre13: You still here?
[05:17] <r0yrul3z> or just use nano
[05:17] <violot> What the heck!? Mouse scroll scrolls for like half a second, then quits scrolling in Firefox!?
[05:17] <Cheep-cheep> I don't remember my other sn. Hehe
[05:18] <odyssevs> violot, your lucky night isn't it?
[05:18] <RawSewage> how do you skip the 30 mount disk check for a later time
[05:18] <violot> It quite is ;)
[05:18] <dragonfyre13> Cheep-cheep: you the one with the burner issue?
[05:18] <violot> KDE seems to be ugly-i-fied
[05:18] <Cheep-cheep> No, I was trying the kde.
[05:18] <violot> GNOME is fine
[05:18] <RawSewage> if Im in a hurry, and it happens to be the 30th time, it's very annoying to have to wait for a half hour
[05:18] <Cheep-cheep> HEY I like KDE.
[05:18] <violot> and beautiful
[05:18] <odyssevs> cpl-tnt44, yes? no?
[05:18] <r0yrul3z> Cheep-cheep, GNOME > KDE
[05:18] <violot> KDE is ugly on my system for some reason
[05:18] <Cheep-cheep> I like KDE. Personally.
[05:18] <bm0nk> when i press Q
[05:18] <bm0nk> it just says
[05:18] <bm0nk> recording
[05:18] <violot> And for some reason, my mouses in X are only black and white... :|
[05:18] <Gevaudan82> violot: i like kubuntu but i hate debian kde...way too many apps preinstalled to know what to do with
[05:19] <violot> And they don't animate
[05:19] <Flannel> Gnome Vs KDE, emacs vs vim, etc arguments belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:19] <Cheep-cheep> It sucks it didn't recognize my hd1 was on the desktop, but that's fine with me.
[05:19] <violot> I installed the package kde... don't do that!  Do kubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <SinnerG> pff slow ;p
[05:19] <dragonfyre13> Cheep-cheep: Oh, Avan.... something.
[05:19] <bm0nk> omg i cant get out of it
[05:19] <odyssevs> Jeez Debian's KDE is a serious problem for indecisive people.
[05:19] <RawSewage> #MyOSisBetterThanYourOS
[05:19] <Cheep-cheep> violot: That's what I did.
[05:19] <bm0nk> escape q  doesnt work
[05:19] <Cheep-cheep> Ya I can't remember my last sn. haha
[05:19] <violot> kde installs A BUNCH of crap
[05:19] <RawSewage> I mean WM
[05:19] <violot> kubuntu-desktop does a lot less
[05:19] <Cheep-cheep> My mouse works better on kde?
[05:20] <Gevaudan82> ^^
[05:20] <violot> My mice are black and white all of a sudden
[05:20] <dragonfyre13> Cheep-cheep: I'm a gnome guy. Till death. But linus torvalds is KDE, so you're in good company.
[05:20] <violot> :|
[05:20] <RawSewage> how do you skip the 30 mount disk check for a later time
[05:20] <Gevaudan82> Cheep-cheep: lol, are you serious?
[05:20] <violot> And don't animate cursors
[05:20] <Cheep-cheep> Yah I don't understand why, but it seems more sensitive which is alright with me.
[05:20] <Cheep-cheep> HAHA it's set to 24hr.
[05:20] <SkramX> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:20] <tritium> SkramX: have you installed build-essential?
[05:20] <SkramX> /lib/cpp is a sym link to the cpp binary.. any idea?
[05:21] <PFA> how do i find out what USB port my printer is on
[05:21] <SkramX> tritium: doing now
[05:21] <SkramX> I am a Gentoo'er, just installed ubuntu on my laptop to try it out
[05:21] <bm0nk> OK I tried dos2unix - still "No such file or directory"
[05:21] <SkramX> tritium: thanks
[05:21] <bm0nk> And i tried vim, couldnt close it so i just closed the terminal window
[05:21] <b14ck73425> hey everyone
[05:21] <r0yrul3z> bm0nk, use nano
[05:21] <SkramX> tritium: what about Xtest?
[05:22] <b14ck73425> change the system font
[05:22] <odyssevs> bm0nk, :q to quit, :wq to write and quit, :q! to quit saving no changes.
[05:22] <Cheep-cheep> I like terminal in KDE too.
[05:22] <tritium> bm0nk: you have to installed sysutils or tofrodos to have dos2unix command
[05:22] <SkramX> nvm
[05:22] <tritium> SkramX: what about it
[05:22] <tritium> ?
[05:22] <SkramX> apt-get install x-window-system-dev
[05:22] <Gevaudan82> bm0nk: to close vim type :wq ...press the i and Esc button to go in and out of edit mode...i goes in, esc goes back to command mdoe where you can type :wq for example which saves and quits
[05:22] <bm0nk> tritium : actually i used the online web version of dos2unix
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, i also downloaded ... and got the same errors .. weird
[05:22] <tritium> bm0nk: okay, but it's available in ubuntu packages
[05:22] <SkramX> violot: I am on one right now :)
[05:22] <Cheep-cheep> The clock is in 24 hour time, I have no idea how to get it out of that, but it's ok as long as it has the right time.
[05:22] <bm0nk> Well without this wlan script i cant make my wireless card work
[05:23] <violot> Meanie :P
[05:23] <SkramX> :P
[05:23] <bm0nk> thanks tritium
[05:23] <violot> Mac OS X looks real neat
[05:23] <SkramX> yeah
[05:23] <violot> I'd use it alongside with Ubuntu
[05:23] <Cheep-cheep> OS X is neat if you have THE LATEST os.
[05:23] <violot> and maybe install some random unpopular linux distros on another
[05:23] <SkramX> I used to us egentoo for my desktop machine (a laptop), then got this macmini. Now trying ubuntu on the laptop and osx on the macmini
[05:23] <Cheep-cheep> If you have something that's like 10 versions behind you are outta luck with anything.
[05:23] <violot> I hate Apple's upgrade ways
[05:23] <RawSewage> Is there a command you can type to abort the 30-mount disk check
[05:23] <SkramX> still proudly use gentoo on servers
[05:23] <SkramX> yeah
[05:24] <Gevaudan82> violot:  granted i'm not a mac user but it seems the osx dock would be horrible for multitasking...especially when opening up close to two dozen windows as i usually have open
[05:24] <bm0nk> I tried to configure my wireless card using the networking GUI, but as soon as i change it from DHCP to static, even if i've filled in all the boxes....the OK buttin is greyed out...so i was trying to use this wlan.sh but now obviously im screwed :(
[05:24] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a FAQ for the Firefox update somewhere?  After the update to 1.5.0.7 in breezy, I only get sound when I play a video (such as those at cnn or bbc).
[05:24] <violot> I want to try a Mac out
[05:24] <violot> They seem to have real nice integration built in between apps
[05:24] <RawSewage> Is there an Ubuntu help channel
[05:24] <Cheep-cheep> I like the name of the advanced text editor.
[05:24] <violot> Like what KDE seems to be striving for
[05:24] <Cheep-cheep> !Kate
[05:24] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[05:24] <sig> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:24] <sig> anyone want to help with this one?
[05:25] <sig> processing was halted because there were too many errors?????
[05:25] <Gevaudan82> violot: assuming you pay for their apps of course...just as microsoft's visual studio/sql server/windows 2003 server integration
[05:25] <sig> was install mplayer
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> sig, mplay is in repos ..
[05:25] <violot> Yeah, I wish I wouldn't be stuck in a clone of MS's monopoly with Apple
[05:25] <Cheep-cheep> !html
[05:25] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[05:25] <RawSewage> Is there a command you can type to abort the 30-mount disk check
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> mplayer*
[05:25] <odyssevs> I'm not being funny, but how do you exit emacs?
[05:25] <sig>  /car/cache/apt/archives/libartsc0_1.5.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:25] <Deramin> Does anyone know how to get something, *anything*, to code and compile Java set up in Ubuntu?
[05:25] <SinnerG> pff slow ;p
[05:25] <violot> If they supported free software/open source software and such I'd be happy
[05:25] <sig> wickedpuppy, no kidding
[05:25] <r0yrul3z> lol
[05:25] <SinnerG> ops ;p
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> odyssevs, ctrl-x xtrl-c
[05:26] <Gevaudan82> Deramin: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-sdk
[05:26] <sig> that was an apt-get install error
[05:26] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy:  I tried to configure my wireless card using the networking GUI, but as soon as i change it from DHCP to static, even if i've filled in all the boxes....the OK buttin is greyed out...so i was trying to use this wlan.sh but now obviously im screwed :(
[05:26] <Gevaudan82> Deramin: then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> sig, try sudo apt-get install mplayer
[05:26] <Cheep-cheep> Kopete?
[05:26] <sig> wickedpuppy, that was the return error of apt-get install mplayer dude
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, i still can't figure out the error from the bash
[05:26] <Deramin> Gevaudan82: hypothetically did it. Not all libraries seem to be there, though or else my program relying on the JDK is fubar
[05:27] <b14ck73425> is there a way to make a different program the default for movies
[05:27] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : thats the problem...its not a real error message beccause the file does exist :(
[05:27] <haydenAU> what can i use to burn a dvd-video ?
[05:27] <Netslayer> i really dont feel like submitting some bugs, is there a quicker way?
[05:27] <Gevaudan82> Deramin: what libraries are you looking for?
[05:27] <violot> Cocoa and Obj-C looks like a real nice way to develop apps
[05:27] <Netslayer> the edgy installer has a lot of rough edges
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, well bash should be slapped :P
[05:28] <Gevaudan82> haydenAU: k3b
[05:28] <violot> I'd kill for a port of Cocoa to Linux that could make GNOME or Qt apps with Cocoa's same code
[05:28] <haydenAU> anything for gnome?
[05:28] <SinnerG> grmbl
[05:28] <jtholmes> Netslayer: like what rough edges
[05:28] <clearzen> How do I set apt to directly connect to the internet instead of using a proxy? What changes need to be made to the apt.conf file?
[05:28] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : This is the final step to make my wireless card work...    ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1573173 is my extensive posting lol )
[05:28] <SinnerG> where I had 80connections / sec before with debian
[05:28] <SinnerG> I get 4-5 connections / sec with ubuntu :/
[05:28] <Gevaudan82> haydenAU: it's the best dvd burner period and works in gnome even adds menu items...you can try gnomebaker if you want though
[05:28] <SinnerG> compiled apache 2 + php + eaccelerator
[05:28] <grandy> Hello... I've scoured the net about this and finally I'm here on IRC:  I am trying to install the latest Ubuntu server on a dell poweredge 650 with Megaraid... Apparently according to my search the dapper install cd has a version of the kernel w/ a broken megaraid driver... any ideas on what I can do to get dapper installed in spite of that?
[05:28] <SinnerG> just as I had before
[05:28] <SinnerG> and load is skyrocketing
[05:28] <haydenAU> Gevaudan82, ok i'll install that
[05:29] <SinnerG>  07:28:55 up 1 day,  3:11,  2 users,  load average: 47.02, 35.04, 32.45
[05:29] <jturek> help! -r--r--r--   1 root     sys          990 Oct  2 23:16 passwd
[05:29] <RawSewage> I was gone, did someone answer my question
[05:29] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : And I think i've nearly fixed it but...this bash script should just be a simple run procedure but NO, its laughing at me, ITS LAUGHING AT ME :(
[05:29] <RawSewage> just kidding
[05:29] <jturek> how can i edit that file as root if its all read only
[05:29] <Netslayer> jtholmes, if the partition managed (manual edit mode) fails to create a partition due to rereading errors it still continues and then dies
[05:29] <bm0nk> sudo gedit /file
[05:29] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: How's it going?
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, relax and calm down ...
[05:29] <Deramin> Gevaudan82: may have misread it. can't find library tools.jar
[05:29] <odyssevs> violot, GNUstep is the ebst you get I'm afraid.
[05:29] <jturek> bm0nk: even as root it says permission denied
[05:29] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : lol im sorry, but you have no idea how much time i've spent on this
[05:30] <bm0nk> jturek : Ah...well...thats the end of the line for me helping you...lol im a newbie :(
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, wireless isn't that polished on linux ... a few years back it was sound and video ... so on and so on ... blame the companies
[05:30] <jtholmes> Netslayer: i noticed the msg  all removed partitions will be formatted  that is bad i have to wait to get home to check that one out
[05:30] <dragonfyre13> OK, there are easier ways of doing .FON files, which is what I'm working on. BCF works, but PCF dies.
[05:30] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: OK, there are easier ways of doing .FON files, which is what I'm working on. BCF works, but PCF dies.
[05:31] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy :  Well right now wireless isnt the problem, its bash.....
[05:31] <jtholmes> Netslayer: i dont dare check it out while on the road too dangerous if i wipe my prime linux mahcine
[05:31] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: So I should forget about PCF?
[05:31] <dragonfyre13> yep
[05:31] <grandy> Hello... I've scoured the net about this and finally I'm here on IRC:  I am trying to install the latest Ubuntu server on a dell poweredge 650 with Megaraid... Apparently according to my search the dapper install cd has a version of the kernel w/ a broken megaraid driver... any ideas on what I can do to get dapper installed in spite of that?
[05:31] <dragonfyre13> FON is the way to go. It's windows standard.
[05:31] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: FON is the way to go. It's windows standard.
[05:31] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : I've done the hard part....installing ndsiwrapper/card driver, getting it to see it...getting it connected...now just trying to run this F-ing script to get it working...and it doesnt even give me an error i can go google and research
[05:31] <Codemaster_> hey guys, I've looked around on the forums and online for this problem and I still am unable to fix it: gpg: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libreadline.so.5: undefined symbol: BC
[05:31] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : doing my freaking head in
[05:32] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: The thing is, PCF 5 years ago was great. It's just gone out by now.
[05:32] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Someone should change the docs.
[05:32] <Senesence> !fonts
[05:32] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[05:32] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[05:32] <Codemaster_> so if anyone can help, that'd be awesome :D
[05:32] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: lemme look.
[05:33] <WhiteNoise> IF i have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common, and then later want to install an nvidia 3rd party module, how do I work this out?  uninstall both ubuntu packages and run nvidia's installer?  just use nvidia's installers and ignore installed pckgs?
[05:33] <Normal> I'm having alot of trouble installing Ubuntu and would appreciate any help. It's a little long to put here so: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2447076#post2447076
[05:34] <Cheep-cheep> Guys I have to say I like KDE.
[05:34] <Cheep-cheep> Probably because it reminds me of uh....
[05:34] <clearzen> How can I tell apt to directly connect to the internet instead of using a proxy?
[05:34] <Codemaster_> here's a link to the problem I've been having: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269022
[05:34] <roughtrader> does anyone here use lyx?
[05:34] <tritium> WhiteNoise: use ubuntu packages, not nvidia installers
[05:34] <Apollo> OK so guys
[05:34] <Apollo> I need quite a large amount of help
[05:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Cheep-cheep: ...cartoons?
[05:34] <ithiel> how does one switch desktops (gnome to KDE) using Apt?
[05:35] <Codemaster_> apt-get the kubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <ithiel> I'm getting old and I've forgotten, forgive me
[05:35] <Apollo> Ubuntu stopped booting today..it keeps hanging on the part where it loads the manual drivers.
[05:35] <bm0nk> Well i guess no one can help me, im thoroughly pissed off with this bash:/
[05:35] <WhiteNoise> tritium, so far I have, but the latest ubuntu have problems with getty (f1 - f6) *AND* wine (wine won't show any fonts) -- big problems for me
[05:35] <Apollo> For some reason, my wireless light on my laptop keeps blinkingwhen it freezes
[05:35] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, libncurses-dev is installed?
[05:35] <ithiel> yay. no more stupefying desktop.
[05:36] <Codemaster_> should be, let me double check here
[05:36] <Apollo> Things I've tried: disabling wireless in the bios, and booting in recovery mode.
[05:36] <odyssevs> has some whistles and bells with it.. apt-get with -s to check.
[05:36] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: yes, libncurses5-dev is installed
[05:36] <Cheep-cheep> EnsignRedshirt: Cartoons?
[05:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Cheep-cheep: Just finishing your previous comment.  KDE always looked cartoonish to me.
[05:37] <Cheep-cheep> Oh.
[05:37] <Cheep-cheep> Well, maybe that's why I like it?
[05:37] <EnsignRedshirt> :)
[05:37] <alex_ubuntu> Who can help with a CUPS install
[05:38] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/devel/06/01/3799.html
[05:38] <Codemaster_> i'll take a look at that; thank you for your help so far.
[05:38] <morphir> anyone run engage the osx-like docker??
[05:38] <ellioT`> hows it goin everyone
[05:38] <ellioT`> code, i couldn't get it to install
[05:38] <lostboyz> i was wondering i have a problem when i try to logout after i changed the xorg serever to accomodate my ati graphics card now i just get a black screen
[05:38] <ellioT`> i got that kxdocker or whatever
[05:39] <ellioT`> but it was too annoying
[05:39] <Gevaudan82> lostboyz: see if you have an /etc/X11/xorg.backup
[05:39] <Dr_willis> ellioT`,  i agree there.
[05:39] <morphir> ellioT`: kxdocker sucks man
[05:39] <ANTDx1> Anyone know what is causing my laptop to hang during boot?
[05:39] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: what's this 'R'? Do i have to recompile it and if so, where do i obtain the sources
[05:39] <ellioT`> i know, lol
[05:39] <Gevaudan82> ANTDx1: did  you  check /var/log/messages?
[05:39] <ellioT`> how do you get transparent windows, or borders
[05:39] <lostboyz> yes i have one but i want to know exactly why it is not able to work
[05:39] <ANTDx1> Gevaudan82, I can't because it won't boot.
[05:39] <ellioT`> kinda like vista, i have seen it in screenshots
[05:40] <Gevaudan82> ANTDx1: enter grub, enter e to edit the default entry and then type single after it...alternativly, check enter the fail safe mode, they do the same thing
[05:40] <ellioT`> can't get the forum's search to work right now, so i figured i would check out the chat
[05:40] <AngryParsley> ellioT`: it annoys me how many quirks it inherits from XP
[05:40] <AngryParsley> like bluetooth
[05:40] <ellioT`> heheh
[05:40] <EnsignRedshirt> Crud... I got the update to Firerfox 1.5.0.7 in breezy, and now video, java and flash don't work.
[05:40] <ellioT`> i just switched to ubuntu
[05:40] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, no idea. Another site (in German) mentions it too.
[05:40] <ANTDx1> Gevaudan82: what will that do?  I have a dual-boot on my computer.  The boot for Ubuntu starts, but then stops at a certain point in the mounting of hardware and loading of drivers
[05:41] <AngryParsley> the hardware accelerated UI is nice, but apple has had it for years
[05:41] <Codemaster_> yeah, i've found most of this via google
[05:41] <ellioT`> like a week ago, haven't been in linux for years
[05:41] <Dr_willis> ellioT`,  forums search has been having some up and down issues :(
[05:41] <AngryParsley> I'm setting up an ubuntu lamp server right now
[05:41] <AngryParsley> and so far it's going swimmingly
[05:41] <Codemaster_> it's very odd, apt-get fails because gpg fails because of this
[05:41] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, some French site was suggesting perhaps libncurses-dev wasn't as up-to-date as necessary. Nothing which gives you a solution of course.
[05:41] <ellioT`> dr_willi, its saying db down right now, you know what gives you transparent windows?
[05:41] <Codemaster_> hm, ok
[05:41] <ellioT`> or just the borders
[05:41] <Codemaster_> i'll try reinstalling libncurses
[05:41] <Gevaudan82> ANTDx1: it'll allow you to enter the command line...then type tail /var/log/messages to see where your boot is choking at...whatever line you get search it in google and changes are someone else has had the same problem
[05:42] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, I wouldn't break your neck over it.
[05:42] <Gevaudan82> ANTDx1: if it's related to your ati driver...see if you have a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file...if so replace xorg.conf with your backup
[05:42] <Codemaster_> i can't install half the updates the
[05:42] <Cheep-cheep> Ok, nobody can say yucky to KDE.
[05:42] <Codemaster_> because it fails gpg'ing them
[05:42] <ellioT`> what you guys use for irc, xchat?
[05:42] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: I have to go. Thank you for trying to help me. If you find any answers to this issue please be so kind as to post the answer here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269528. Thanks again for all you did.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> ellioT`,  using xchat 2.4 here. :)
[05:43] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: sure.
[05:43] <dragonfyre13> Senesence: I'll post if I find it.
[05:43] <ANTDx1> ok i'll try that and be back if it doesn't work
[05:43] <Senesence> dragonfyre13: Thanks
[05:43] <ellioT`> hrmm, i want those transparent window borders like vista
[05:43] <Codemaster_> my friend has them with the newet ubuntu in gnome
[05:43] <Codemaster_> not sure how or what theme he is using
[05:44] <Dr_willis> ellioT`,  useless eye candy.
[05:44] <ellioT`> he has the transparency? so jealous
[05:44] <ellioT`> i know, but sometimes i like the useless
[05:44] <DarkMageZ> ellioT`, i think you're refering to compiz/beryl... it's alpha software... but if you REALLY wanna hurt your system then visit #ubuntu-xgl
[05:44] <ellioT`> lol, i don't want to hurt it
[05:44] <AngryParsley> ellioT`: the eye candy is pretty useless
[05:44] <AngryParsley> it's not worth the instability right now
[05:45] <ellioT`> oh ok, thanx
[05:45] <AngryParsley> and the frustration of setting up xgl
[05:45] <Codemaster_> ellioT`: he said he using beryl to achieve the transparency effects.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> even if it was stable..i dont see how it makes you any more productive..
[05:45] <ellioT`> i can't beleive how great this works right after the install
[05:45] <DarkMageZ> Dr_willis, you should try it for a month. it does help when it works
[05:45] <ellioT`> wireless works perfect, everything
[05:45] <Dr_willis> i guess i am the only peson that likes clean, clear, easy to read/use themes.
[05:45] <AngryParsley> Dr_willis: in OSX at least they made up things like dashboard and expose to make things easier
[05:45] <AngryParsley> but besides that there's only the performance enhancement
[05:45] <Dr_willis> DarkMageZ,  i dont see how. I tend to set up desktops for my different tasks and just swithc tween them.
[05:45] <odyssevs> Dr_willis, far from it.
[05:45] <ellioT`> now i dual boot my other comp, ubuntu's drivers worked better than xp or vista ever did
[05:46] <SkramX> api.c:30:22: ft2build.h: No such file or directory
[05:46] <SkramX> any idea?
[05:46] <SkramX> do i need to apt-get something to get that?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Then again.. ive been using the "Matchbox" window manager lately. :P thats.. different.
[05:46] <alex_ubuntu> any one ever use the  http://localhost:631/admin CUPS to install a printer
[05:46] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: I reinstalled all of the ncurses libraries via synaptic and ran sudo ldconfig, but I still have the libreadline.so.5 undefined symbol: BC error.
[05:46] <odyssevs> alex_ubuntu, yes, nearly put me off linux for life.
[05:46] <alex_ubuntu> no luck...
[05:46] <DarkMageZ> SkramX, what on earth are you trying to build?
[05:46] <SkramX> imlib2 for enlightenment 17
[05:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell alex_ubuntu about cupsweb
[05:47] <odyssevs> SkramX, http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2004-03/thread00287-0.html
[05:47] <SkramX> ok..
[05:48] <cafuego> libimlib2 1.2.1-2  not good enough?
[05:49] <flowbot> anybody using telepathy in edgy? i can't figure how to connect to irc channel with the idle extension ...
[05:50] <Dr_willis> alex_ubuntu,  thats disabled by default in ubuntu - it LOOKS like it works. but it dosent
[05:50] <Dr_willis> alex_ubuntu,  its a bit of a sore spot with the cups devs. :P the ubuntu forums/wikis discuss how to reenable the web interface
[05:51] <delaney> does anyone here use mpd and gmpc ??
[05:51] <delaney> im COMPLETELY confused
[05:51] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, may I see your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[05:51] <Codemaster_> sure,
[05:51] <Codemaster_> want me to PM you it?
[05:51] <odyssevs> !pastebin
[05:51] <odyssevs> !paste
[05:51] <Codemaster_> !paste
[05:51] <Codemaster_> !pastebin
[05:51] <odyssevs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org] 
[05:51] <Codemaster_> that works
[05:52] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25545/
[05:52] <Codemaster_> it errors on us.archive, beerorkid, blutkind, compiz-mirror, compiz.net and security.ubuntu.com
[05:53] <cute_bettong> !ati
[05:53] <cute_bettong> ! ati
[05:53] <Cheep-cheep> KDE = win.
[05:53] <Cheep-cheep> Sorry guys.
[05:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:54] <cute_bettong> !ati
[05:54] <Dr_willis> sorry Cheep-cheep  kde = kde. win=win
[05:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:55] <grandy> hello.... does anyone know what the noprobe options is on installation?  is it just install noprobe?
[05:55] <Cheep-cheep> Hahaha does not compute.
[05:55] <Cheep-cheep> does not compute.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> 'exterminate!'
[05:55] <Dr_willis> 'danger danger danger!'
[05:56] <NormalSpore> I got disconnected and don't know if my last msge went through....Did it?
[05:56] <Cheep-cheep> I guess I'm just weird.
[05:56] <ravenwritingdesk> Guys I'm on an amd64 laptop that I can't get ALSA to work on.
[05:56] <ravenwritingdesk> everything else works great.
[05:56] <Cheep-cheep> ALSA
[05:56] <Dr_willis> NormalSpore,  not that ive seen
[05:56] <ravenwritingdesk> !alsa
[05:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:56] <Cheep-cheep> Alsa really sucks ravenwritingdesk
[05:56] <Antioch> Does anyone know any good programs to code java using - preferably ones that have debuggers. xemacs has a debugger and syntax hilighting, but I don't think the debugger will work with java...
[05:57] <ravenwritingdesk> cheep-cheep: not much option anymore no?
[05:57] <desy> hi..............
[05:57] <Cheep-cheep> Yah, but there's nothing you can really do about it.
[05:57] <Cheep-cheep> Unless you set up hardware to use esd AND alsa like I did. Haha.
[05:57] <NormalSpore> Okay. I've reposted my problem on ubuntu's forums(from linuxquestions) so maybe someone will be more inclined to help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1574298#post1574298
[05:58] <Cheep-cheep> No need for applause! Really!
[05:58] <michael> Wooh... the nv drivers for my Nvidia card do NOT work, only thing working so far is VESA :\
[05:58] <tyler_d> any way I can specify which driver is loaded for a wifi connection? still can't get it working?
[05:59] <Cheep-cheep> Guys. Off topic, I need a high five.
[05:59] <Cheep-cheep> YES
[06:00] <odyssevs> code, try http://pastebin.ca/189512
[06:00] <grandy> hello.... does anyone know what the noprobe options is on installation?  is it just install noprobe?
[06:00] <ANTDx1> Back on topic, I could not figure out how to edit grub, so I still cannot access my Ubuntu partition
[06:00] <Codemaster_> alright
[06:00] <Codemaster_> is this your sources?
[06:01] <odyssevs> Nope.
[06:02] <alex_ubuntu> Can I use CUPS to configure a printer on a router with a print server
[06:02] <alex_ubuntu> And if so... how..
[06:02] <ANTDx1> Can anyone help me fix this problem I'm having?
[06:02] <Tsukino> Okay, I think I'm in trouble. =(
[06:03] <ithiel> what's a good channel to go to for help with assembly?
[06:03] <ANTDx1> what's a good channel to go to for people who actually respond?
[06:03] <ithiel> this used to be a fairly responsive channel
[06:03] <Tsukino> Is there a way to try to kickstart a battery to work again? Mine suddenly shows no charge and will not charge
[06:03] <ithiel> I used to be a helper :)
[06:03] <odyssevs> Standard policy is to tell us the problem, ANTDx1. Saves the typing.
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> ANTDx1: I might be able to help you futz with grub; what's up?
[06:04] <ithiel> hello tonyyarusso
[06:04] <shriphani> wee i fixed the audio problem
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> Hey ithiel
[06:04] <ithiel> *cracks neck* I'm getting old
[06:04] <grandy> hello.... does anyone know what the noprobe options is on installation?  is it just install noprobe?  I can't get dapper to stop probing and installing a bunch of modules!
[06:04] <ANTDx1> Well I don't really want to futz with grub directly...I've been in and out of here all day trying different fixes for the same problem: when I boot Ubuntu, it keeps stopping at the part where it is "loading manual drivers"
[06:04] <ithiel> need to learn me some assembler.
[06:04] <ANTDx1> During that stop, the wireless light on my laptop blinks slightly
[06:05] <odyssevs> ithiel, try some of the mainstream language channels on undernet.
[06:05] <ANTDx1> I have a feeling that something has gone wrong with the wireless drivers, but I have no idea what to do about it, because I can't even boot into Ubuntu
[06:05] <shriphani> loading manual or restricted ?
[06:05] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: still get that gpg error
[06:05] <odyssevs> Tsukino, laptop battery?
[06:05] <Tsukino> yeah, I have no idea what happened
[06:06] <Tsukino> It showed no loss of charge or any difference before now
[06:06] <Tsukino> Now even the button on the battery itself won't register. It's like the battery is just dead.
[06:06] <psynautic> hey i tried to update to edgy, and i cant boot in using the new kernel, i managed to get in ok with the old kernel tho
[06:06] <ANTDx1> Manual drivers
[06:07] <odyssevs> Tsukino, happens. You haven't been operating it at minus 50 or anything? =)
[06:07] <ANTDx1> not restricted
[06:07] <Tsukino> Nope, only thing I've done was not run it for a few weeks.
[06:07] <tyler_d> how do I specify drivers to use with devices?
[06:07] <odyssevs> Tsukino, completely discharge it and leave her recharging for about 24 hours.
[06:08] <Tsukino> I'm sure the battery discharged in that time, as it's done it before.
[06:08] <Tsukino> Unplugging my laptop shuts it off instantly
[06:08] <odyssevs> All rechargeable batteries should be completely discharged every once in a while (no idea whether newer technology circumvents that.)
[06:09] <Codemaster_> so would anyone know anything about libreadline.so.5 problems :(
[06:09] <blind> My VNC server won't work. I try to connect to it, it says unable to connect. I try to run Xvnc, it says it's running on display 0 -- so why won't it connect?
[06:09] <Tsukino> It should have been completely discharged today. The laptop wasn't plugged in for at least 3 weeks.
[06:09] <odyssevs> Tsukino, any time I've ever bought a device with a rechargeable battery the manual has made a firm point of leaving it on charge for 24 hours before running off it.
[06:09] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, scratching my head there..
[06:09] <ANTDx1> Any idea as to what I can do to fix the problem?
[06:09] <Tsukino> The battery's about 2 years old too
[06:09] <Codemaster_> yeah, me tooo
[06:09] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, try apt-key update
[06:09] <Codemaster_> alright
[06:10] <Codemaster_> i dont have ubuntu-keyring installed
[06:10] <Codemaster_> because gpg fails
[06:10] <Codemaster_> so i can't execute an apt-key update
[06:11] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, so install it.
[06:11] <odyssevs> http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-keyring/ or whatever.
[06:11] <Codemaster_> i just attempte dto
[06:11] <Codemaster_> it won't let me because gpg complains
[06:11] <odyssevs> How did you try installing it?
[06:11] <Codemaster_> apt-get
[06:12] <Codemaster_> i'll try using the actual file, though
[06:12] <odyssevs> Get the package yourself and do it manually.
[06:12] <Codemaster_> alright
[06:12] <Tsukino> I think it was around 30% when I unplugged my laptop. That's when it shut off. After that it showed 0% on that battery, and doesn't charge. The laptop firmware shows it at 0%, and the battery itself shows no charge on its button
[06:12] <odyssevs> Tsukino, stick it in the freezer for 5 or 10 minutes.
[06:12] <Tsukino> oh?
[06:13] <odyssevs> Don't leave it in all night or you'll end up with a thermal runaway.
[06:13] <clusty> hey
[06:13] <clusty> what package contains gimptool?
[06:14] <odyssevs> clusty, read http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/libdevel/libgimp2.0-dev - might assist you.
[06:15] <clusty> thanx
[06:15] <jmoncayo> does anybody here have a linksys wrt54g???
[06:15] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: same error; it won't let me install ubuntu-keyring because it fails at gpg checking
[06:15] <BlingBonk] > Anyone heard of Richard Stallman?
[06:15] <Codemaster_> he's the GNU guy, right?
[06:15] <bf> who's he?
[06:15] <snoop> yeah
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> jmoncayo: I will by the end of the week.
[06:15] <chemaja> aka. RMS
[06:15] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, you downloaded the package itself?
[06:16] <Codemaster_> yes, the .deb file
[06:16] <odyssevs> and used dpkg?
[06:16] <Codemaster_> yes, i did a sudo dpkg -i ubuntu-keyring_2005.01.12.1_all.deb
[06:16] <bf> can someone help me navigate launchpad to get a sense of bugs left in edgy?
[06:16] <jmoncayo> tonyyarusso: do you know if you can use the ddns featire with a web page?
[06:16] <snoop> BLingBonk] : Stallman Founder of GNU Project and Free Software Foundation
[06:17] <BlingBonk] > His views are really extreme man
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> jmoncayo: No idea.  (However, I do know that there's a lot of info at linksysinfo.org)
[06:17] <jmoncayo> thanks
[06:18] <Madpilot> BlingBonk] , #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, please
[06:18] <BlingBonk] > ok
[06:18] <BlingBonk] > ive been banned from there for months
[06:18] <tyler_d> how do I remove the drivers for any piece of hardware?
[06:18] <snoop> haha
[06:18] <snoop> why
[06:18] <BlingBonk] > my ban does seem to be getting lifted
[06:18] <jshamash66> can someone help me out, i've been running ubuntu for an hour and i can't figure out how to share a folder with other computers on my network running XP
[06:18] <SkramX> automake does not support beinf defined conditionally
[06:18] <SkramX> any idea to that error?
[06:18] <ANTDx1> I've been in and out of here all day trying different fixes for the same problem: when I boot Ubuntu, it keeps stopping at the part where it is "loading manual drivers"  During this time, the wireless light on my laptop blinks softly.  Does anyone have any possible solutions to this?
[06:18] <BlingBonk] > I honestly cant remember why Im banned
[06:19] <snoop> pissed off the oper?
[06:19] <BlingBonk] > I guess so
[06:19] <BlingBonk] > but this isnt the room to talk about it
[06:19] <Dr_willis> its because you were ONTOPIC in the OFFtopic room!
[06:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:19] <SkramX> ?
[06:19] <BlingBonk] > lol
[06:20] <BlingBonk] > woo unbanned, thanks!
[06:20] <Madpilot> BlingBonk] , ban in -offtopic is lifted...
[06:20] <BlingBonk] > cheers
[06:20] <BlingBonk] > thanks
[06:20] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, wtf did you do to your system? =)
[06:20] <omar>  hi guys I installed frostwire and it dowsn't open , what can I do
[06:20] <jshamash66> does anyone here no anything about sharing folders between ubuntu and XP?.....
[06:20] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: are you booting single user that you see that message?
[06:20] <snoop> jshamash66>: System -> Administrator -> Share Folders ?
[06:20] <omar>  hi guys I installed frostwire and it dowsn't open , what can I do
[06:21] <ANTDx1> booting single user?  what does that mean?
[06:21] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: ok lets start from the beginning when and were do you see that message
[06:21] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: what we did was removed all the libreadline from /usr/local/lib
[06:21] <snoop> jshamash66>: System -> Administrator -> Share Folders ?
[06:21] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: and then did an ldconfig
[06:21] <jshamash66> no, i have samba and i tried sharing, but my XP computer can't find my Ubuntu one
[06:21] <snoop> in ubuntu
[06:21] <Codemaster_> odyssevs: seemed to fix it [somehow?] 
[06:22] <kritical> Anyone know a command to display the currnet directory?... like output /home/user or whatever the working directory is?
[06:22] <drew> Is there any way I can sort top by memory usage?
[06:22] <ANTDx1> Under the Ubuntu logo during the boot process.
[06:22] <shriphani> kritical, pwd
[06:22] <ANTDx1> The little bar gets about 1/8 of the way through, then it just stops at this step.
[06:22] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: ok what version of ubuntu
[06:23] <drew> ANTDx1, your xserver configuration may be bad.
[06:23] <ANTDx1> Ubuntu 6.06
[06:23] <ANTDx1> Drew: how would I fix that?
[06:24] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: i dont run ubuntu but dont you have two entrys in the  grub menu one for single user?
[06:24] <jshamash66> how can I get my winXP computer to find my Ubuntu computer's shared folder?
[06:24] <ANTDx1> umm...no i have a few entries
[06:24] <ANTDx1> one for Ubuntu normal and one for recovery mode
[06:24] <drew> ANTDx1, in the grub menu choose the safe mode version of your kernel
[06:24] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: does one say failsafe
[06:25] <drew> Ehh ANTDx1 did you recently install a new video driver?
[06:25] <ANTDx1> Not that I'm aware of.  There are three for ubuntu, one for teach kernel version
[06:25] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, rm -rf ~/.gnupg
[06:25] <odyssevs> Codemaster_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnupg
[06:26] <ANTDx1> and each one has its own safe mode.  I tried the top safe mode, and the process still stopped at the same place, except it was shown on just a black-and-white prompt
[06:26] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: answer drews question about the video driver
[06:26] <ANTDx1> I have not installed a new video driver recently.  I'm running whatever was automatically recognized for video.  I did install a new wireless driver recently
[06:26] <Parisi> Hmm.
[06:27] <Parisi> Whats different about beep player and xmms?
[06:27] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: when it stops what is the longest time you have waited before forcing a reboot?
[06:27] <drew> Hmm... I was having a similar problem when my X server couldn't load my nvidia driver, it may be a driver problem.
[06:27] <jtholmes> drew: sound like it doesnt it
[06:27] <ANTDx1> atleast 2 or 3 minutes.  I don't wait that long everytime...after the first two, when I looked and saw the light blinking, I just forced the reboot.
[06:28] <drew> Does anyone know how to detect for multiple processes under the same command? I have 2GB of ram and I'm at 90% usage, I don't want to have to reboot.
[06:28] <topping> hi all!  i'm about to do my first ubuntu install, but need to do it over the top of an existing set of data from a redhat install. can I do that?
[06:28] <jmoncayo> tonyyarusso: do you know how to flash the linksys router
[06:28] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: ok lets wait for about 5-7 to 10 minutes to see if there is a timeout problem and it hits it and when the timeout is reached it go ahead a boots
[06:29] <Madpilot> enough spamming the channel for now :)
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> jmoncayo: Not yet.  Maybe I'll learn once mine arrives.
[06:29] <topping> s/redhat/fedora
[06:29] <ANTDx1> ok I'll try that.
[06:29] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: no waiting for a while has bit me a lot in the past
[06:29] <jmoncayo> tonyyarusso: do you have any tuts on how to do it?
[06:29] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: no=not
[06:29] <ANTDx1> alright I'll try and see.
[06:29] <ANTDx1> thanks..I'll probably be back if it doesn't work after that
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> jmoncayo: I think there are instructions at the URL I gave earlier.
[06:30] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: wait for at least 7 minutes
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> Is it safe to share a /home between Dapper and Edgy installations?
[06:31] <jtholmes> tonyyarusso: should be fine to share
[06:31] <Dr_willis> tonyyarusso,  ive had issues with kde and gnome settings having issues...
[06:31] <madewokherd> not necessarily
[06:31] <Dr_willis> when used with different versions of kde/gnome
[06:31] <orospakr> heh, it looks like gnome-terminal blows up on edgy when using nvidia. (BadValue X11 error)
[06:32] <jtholmes> tonyyarusso: share them from the command line
[06:32] <madewokherd> in the past sharing settings between different versions of gnome has caused problems (for the older version)
[06:32] <tyler_d> omg, could anyone tell me how to remove a driver please?
[06:33] <DrewZF> tyler_d, what type of driver?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> Dr_willis: I'll keep my eye out for weirdness with those then.
[06:33] <topping> is this a bad place to ask for installation help?
[06:33] <jtholmes> tyler_d: if it is listed when you do a lsmod then  modprobe -r drivername unless it is in use which sometimes prevents removal
[06:33] <snoop> System -> Administrator -> Sypnatic Package Manager ?
[06:33] <tyler_d> DrewZF: wifi driver
[06:33] <snoop> tyler_d
[06:34] <Netslayer> nice my cable modem is operating at 40 up and 4000 down right now.. fricking dial up is faster ** curses 4th isp in two weeks
[06:34] <DrewZF> tyler_d, Go with jtholmes' advice to remove the driver from execution, go with snoops advice to remove it altogether
[06:34] <Tsukino> Well, freezer didn't make my battery respond. Going to let it sit outside my laptop for a week or so.
[06:35] <tyler_d> DrewZF: didn't see that advice from snoop?
[06:36] <orospakr> when Launchpad/Malone says "$package_whatever does not use Malone as it's bug tracker", that means I'm supposed to file all bugs with upstream?
[06:36] <jake_> im a linux newbie, and need help setting up shared folders
[06:37] <orospakr> s/it's/its/
[06:37] <jake_> my winXP computers won't find my Ubuntu one
[06:37] <alex_ubuntu> gnite
[06:37] <alex_ubuntu> gnite all
[06:37] <alex_ubuntu> s
[06:37] <DrewZF> tyler_d, Use synaptic package manager
[06:37] <orospakr> oh, I get it! I have to go to distros/ubuntu in Launchpad.
[06:37] <alex_ubuntu> And if so... how..
[06:39] <Tsukino> If I recall how I did it, I made a directory and set it to the permissions I wanted, then I went and mounted that directory to a FAT32 formatted partition
[06:39] <snoop> tyler_d: System -> Administrator -> Sypnatic Package Manager ?
[06:39] <snoop> you can remove the driver there
[06:39] <Tsukino> Trying it the other way never let me keep permissions, but I finally managed to make it work.
[06:39] <jtholmes> i need the /etc/  filename for adding  mulitverse  keyword
[06:39] <jtholmes> for package urls
[06:39] <madewokherd> there are mount options for permissions..
[06:39] <snoop> Tsukino you used chmod?
[06:40] <jtholmes> !multiverse
[06:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:40] <Cheep-cheep> ubuntu kde love.
[06:41] <DrewZF> Cheep-cheep, amen.
[06:41] <Cheep-cheep> I've said my piece.
[06:41] <chronic1> any built in tools in ubuntu to convert ape to flac or mp3?
[06:41] <ANTDx1> Alright that worked
[06:41] <chronic1> or ogg - should say
[06:42] <Healot> lame; and a wave converter
[06:42] <ANTDx1> jtholmes:  I now have another problem: my computer is at 100% use..constantly
[06:42] <Healot> !info flac
[06:42] <ubotu> flac: Free Lossless Audio Codec - command line tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 122 kB, installed size 332 kB
[06:42] <Healot> !info lame
[06:42] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[06:42] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: so disable the wireless since it was the last thing you did
[06:42] <Tsukino> Yeah, I had used chmod, but the deal was that I was mounting a VFAT partition, which didn't support privileges.
[06:42] <jtholmes> last thing you loaded that is
[06:42] <snoop> cheep-cheep: ubuntu gnome love
[06:43] <Tsukino> So I had to set privileges on the directory before mounting it.
[06:43] <Tsukino> Works fine for me now. I just pray I don't have to remember how in a year or two
[06:43] <topping> ok so hopefully someone here knows wtf i'm talking about
[06:43] <topping> i have eight disks that i am installing ubuntu on
[06:43] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: the wifi is probably a module do you know how to unload it
[06:43] <Cheep-cheep> I don't mind gnome. It's just ugly. Haha
[06:43] <topping> two sets of four, each set RAID5, then lvm'd across them
[06:44] <ANTDx1> jtholmes: Not a clue.  I isntalled a driver that I thought would work.  It was working but now it doesn't.  IT could be because I tried installing two different drivers...the first one did't seem to work.
[06:44] <snoop> cheep-cheep: nuh uh
[06:44] <topping> so i need to get the ubuntu installer to recognize the configuration and save the data on them
[06:44] <holoton1> dear god
[06:44] <holoton1> all I want to do is format an external hard drive as fat32
[06:44] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: hmm... interseting do you know the names of the drivers you installed
[06:44] <Cheep-cheep> Hehe.
[06:44] <holoton1> and I am about to pull my hair out
[06:44] <topping> the partitioner seems to recognize the md, but the lvm configuration screens are pretty poor and say they want to write to my disks with a very nondescript message
[06:45] <Cheep-cheep> I'll probably use gnome most of the time, I just wanted to try kde....
[06:45] <topping> i'm not comfortable with what it's saying without getting confirmation from someone who knows
[06:45] <Cheep-cheep> Because I'll forget it's there.
[06:45] <topping> does anyone know?
[06:45] <topping> or is this a bad place to ask?
[06:45] <ANTDx1> jtholmes:  One was bcmxxxx I believe.  That one didn't work.
[06:45] <Slackwise> Sooo, I'm installing Ubuntu, and it's sitting at 84% "Configuring apt..."
[06:45] <ANTDx1> The other, I don't know the name but I know it's for the broadcom 4318 wireless card
[06:45] <Slackwise> Is this just a long process, or has the installer hung?
[06:45] <snoop> cheep-cheep: gnome using 800x600 :P
[06:46] <yveriel> need help, is there a Macromedia Flash for ubuntu linux?
[06:46] <orospakr> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+package/gnome-terminal <-- why are all the options greyed out?
[06:46] <cpk2> Cheep-cheep: most window managers are the same, you need to play with them to get them to look how you like them
[06:46] <snoop> yveriel: yes
[06:46] <Cheep-cheep> Heh
[06:46] <snoop> yveriel: download the plugins
[06:46] <Cheep-cheep> I wish I remembered my other name.
[06:46] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: ok execute   lsmod | grep -i bcm  and see is one of the names is  bcmxxx  something
[06:46] <Geoffrey2> yveriel, extremely outdated, but it exists
[06:46] <Cheep-cheep> Does anyone remember some avagant guy from earlier?
[06:46] <madewokherd> cpk2: can you name two window managers that are the same?
[06:46] <snoop> !Macromedia Flash
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Macromedia Flash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <yveriel> snoop: i mean the editor
[06:46] <Avagant> I guess that was me.
[06:47] <cpk2> madewokherd: gnome and kde both feel very similiar to me
[06:47] <shriphani> i feel flubox is ok
[06:47] <madewokherd> gnome and kde aren't window managers
[06:47] <yveriel> or something that could create swf files
[06:47] <shriphani> oh window managers
[06:48] <shriphani> thunar and nautilus
[06:48] <ANTDx1> jtholmes: , no response from the terminal..it just moved to the next line
[06:48] <cpk2> err desktop enviroment
[06:48] <Geoffrey2> anyone here use Evolution?
[06:48] <shriphani> although one doesnt give you a trash can the other does
[06:48] <cpk2> common typo =P
[06:48] <Avagant> right on the first try ftw!
[06:48] <madewokherd> thunar and nautilus are file managers :|
[06:48] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: ok so that driver is not loaded (it appears)  what was the other driver name
[06:48] <Avagant> !thunar
[06:48] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0+r21789-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 368 kB, installed size 2632 kB
[06:49] <ubuntu> someone help me
[06:49] <ubuntu> please
[06:49] <shriphani> cpk2, i feel kde and windows
[06:49] <ANTDx1> bcm4318x64
[06:49] <mr-russ> ubuntu: you need a problem first
[06:49] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: if you dont remember then execute   lsmod  |  less and scroll thru the list and see if anything comes to mind
[06:49] <ubuntu> i have installed windows after linux and i cant install grub
[06:49] <topping> if I pour fresh chicken blood over the keyboard of my annointed ubuntu machine, will i be more successful than i currently am?
[06:50] <jtholmes> ANTDx1: that is   lsmod | less    less is a pager in case you are use to more
[06:50] <mr-russ> ubuntu: boot from install cd and load recovery
[06:50] <Avagant> topping: HAHAH
[06:50] <Geoffrey2> is it possible to set up more than one email account for a single user in Evolution?
[06:50] <ANTDx1> well ndiswrapper was used somewhere in the process
[06:50] <ubuntu> mr-russ: im in live cd
[06:50] <orospakr> Geoffrey2, yes.
[06:50] <Avagant> Probably not, unless you praise the god of Ubuntu
[06:50] <topping> Avagant: excellent, i am not just talking to myself
[06:50] <topping> Avagant: thank you
[06:50] <mr-russ> ubuntu: mount the hdd, open a shell, chroot and install grub again
[06:50] <Avagant> topping: don't worry i'm having just as many problems
[06:51] <Avagant> topping: everyone keeps telling me how easy things are, and pretty much they speak lies.
[06:51] <casfindad> I recommend sudo /etc/init.d/chicken restart
[06:51] <ANTDx1> other than ndiswrapper, I see no loaded modules that correspond to the ones I installed
[06:51] <topping> Avagant: this thing has a really nasty installer
[06:51] <Avagant> topping: it's very touch too.
[06:51] <yveriel> need a Fla/Swf creator (just like FLASH) is there a software for ubuntu linux?
[06:51] <Avagant> topping: word of advice, don't ever decide you need to -R anything
[06:52] <ubuntu> mr-russ: mount /dev/hda?
[06:52] <Avagant> topping: especially anything in the /usr/bin vicinity
[06:52] <topping> Avagant: -r ?
[06:52] <ubuntu> mr-russ: mount: can't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:52] <Geoffrey2> orospakr, ok, under what menu would I find where I set up additional accounts?
[06:52] <taylor_> kick LookTJ
[06:52] <Avagant> It's a command to change the owner of the files or some crap like that.
[06:52] <taylor_> someone please
[06:52] <Avagant> topping: so pretty much if you do it for your name, you lose sudo.
[06:52] <madewokherd> yveriel: I doubt it, most flash stuff that's not official seems pretty limited
[06:52] <Madpilot> taylor_, um, why?
[06:52] <Avagant> topping: of course i didn't know that, so i couldn't do jack crap.
[06:53] <taylor_> it's me
[06:53] <taylor_> i restart gdm
[06:53] <orospakr> Geoffrey2, Edit->Preferences
[06:53] <ANTDx1> jtjt: only ndiswrapper is recognizable...I still have some of the files that I tried in my home directory, but other than that, nothing
[06:53] <taylor_> restarted*
[06:53] <jtjt> ANTDx1: i changed names  how are you doing
[06:53] <ubuntu> mr-russ: i cant mount
[06:53] <topping> Avagant: I guess I am going to go back to fedora
[06:53] <Madpilot> taylor_, if the nick is registered to you, you can just ghost it
[06:53] <Avagant> topping: I'd like to go back to Windows honestly.
[06:53] <taylor_> how
[06:53] <cute_bettong> i have an ati radeon 9700 and it has a dvi out only i was wondering if anyone could tell me why i cannot get it to work like i did the last time
[06:53] <Madpilot> taylor_, /msg nickserv help
[06:53] <Avagant> topping: It's about 300 times easier to do ANYTHING
[06:53] <madewokherd> Avagant: then why don't you?
[06:53] <cute_bettong> i need video acceleration
[06:53] <topping> Avagant: fedora is much easier to work with
[06:53] <jtjt> ANTDx1: not familiar with ndiswrapper you will have to ask someone else
[06:54] <Avagant> madewokherd: Because I don't have a disc?
[06:54] <ANTDx1> Hmm
[06:54] <jtjt> ANTDx1: however  cd to /etc/init.d
[06:54] <jtjt> ANTDx1: and lets check something
[06:54] <Geoffrey2> orospakr, ah, there it is...thanks....I've been using Thunderbird, but I had to wipe everything and start over a few days ago, and since Evolution comes pre-installed, I thought I'd try that for a while
[06:54] <Avagant> topping: Well, one of the only reasons I got Ubuntu to begin with is because my Winodws disc died on me.
[06:54] <LookTJ> thanks guys
[06:54] <LookTJ> :D
[06:54] <topping> Avagant: you can't download?
[06:54] <madewokherd> that would be illegal
[06:54] <Avagant> topping: I probably could.
[06:54] <cute_bettong> can anyone help me with my ati card
[06:55] <ANTDx1> jtjt: I'm there.
[06:55] <topping> download fedora fc5
[06:55] <sri> greetings, I'm using edgy right now and I"m trying to install gaim-librvp but it fails
[06:55] <jtjt> ANTDx1: when you are in  /etc/init.d  execute   ls -ltra  and see if any of the last few files listed were changed about the time you loaded any of the wifi drivers
[06:55] <Madpilot> cute_bettong, have you looked at the ATI stuff on the Ubuntu wiki?
[06:55] <Avagant> topping: I'm giving this a try, one of the main problems going back though is my soundcard wasn't properly configured and I'm not sure it will be.
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> sri: /join #ubuntu+1
[06:55] <Avagant> topping: So pretty much I didn't have any sound at all and it sucked.
[06:55] <cute_bettong> yes
[06:55] <sri> okay
[06:55] <cute_bettong> i followed the howto
[06:55] <Avagant> topping: But sound worked right out of the box on Ubuntu.
[06:55] <madewokherd> hmm, actually my soundcard doesn't work on the latest dapper kernel either
[06:55] <cute_bettong> and it diden't work
[06:55] <LookTJ> I still under syn flood attack
[06:55] <Madpilot> cute_bettong, you said 9700, right? That should work, my 9600XT works fine in Ubuntu
[06:55] <LookTJ> -_-
[06:55] <cute_bettong> but did before my hard drive crashed and died
[06:56] <topping> Avagant: #fedora is pretty helpful
[06:56] <LookTJ> how do i get the ip
[06:56] <madewokherd> oh wait it is working?
[06:56] <cute_bettong> yea it does work but i cannot get it to use flgrx
[06:56] <Avagant> My soundcard works great here!
[06:56] <Avagant> Yes but is fedora all like "you have to make your own EVERYTHING?"
[06:56] <ANTDx1> jtjt: Nope..one shows up from a few weeks ago, the other shows up from tonight
[06:56] <cute_bettong> and i followed the how to to the letter
[06:56] <madewokherd> I'm confused where it doesn't work, not that there's any reason for me to know
[06:56] <Madpilot> cute_bettong, go thru the howto again - fglrx should work for your card
[06:56] <cute_bettong> iti says missing screen when the xorg log
[06:56] <Avagant> And now that I actually know what my soundcard is, I can get the right drivers if I go back to Windows.
[06:56] <cute_bettong> it has a dvi to vga converter
[06:57] <madewokherd> Avagant: I think that's just gentoo
[06:57] <cute_bettong> as there is only one dvi port
[06:57] <jtjt> ANTDx1: what is the name of the one who's access time is tonight
[06:57] <Avagant> madewokherd: I don't know anything about building, or compiling or any of that junk, so it's like if I get something that I need to do all the work for..
[06:57] <ANTDx1> it says ..
[06:57] <cute_bettong> and i have been through the howto 3 times
[06:57] <cute_bettong> maybe someone can help?
[06:57] <pppoe_dude> hi
[06:58] <Avagant> madewokherd: Don't get me wrong, I like Ubuntu (especially because my sound works) but I don't know..
[06:58] <Avagant> madewokherd: There's something about it, that irks me the wrong way.
[06:58] <pppoe_dude> anyone here using intel i855gme graphics? have you installed any special drivers and did you find that it helped?
[06:58] <ANTDx1> jtjt:  the exact line is drwxr-xr-x 120 root root 4096 2006-10-03 00:36 ..
[06:58] <madewokherd> it's not hard..but..yeah, you shouldn't have to compile lots of stuff
[06:58] <topping> Avagant: fedora comes with way too much, actually
[06:58] <[1] Adam> How do I fix my Ubuntu clock and my WinXP clock, everytime I logon to Ubunto, the clock is 1hour off, and when I log back on to WinXP its clock is wrong too :(
[06:58] <jtjt> ANTDx1: what is the file name at the right side of the line
[06:58] <Avagant> topping: Is Fedora no $$?
[06:59] <ANTDx1> the place where the file name should be says ".."
[06:59] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > how can i make the vncserver point to the current X desktop?
[06:59] <jtjt> ANTDx1: after the  00:36
[06:59] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , try vino-server
[06:59] <topping> Avagant: yes it's free
[06:59] <ANTDx1> jtjt:  it just says ".."
[06:59] <Avagant> My main problem is in order to play the ONE and only game I want to play and I can't play it.
[06:59] <achandra> [1] Adam: might even want to start out by making sure the bios clock is correct first ( ie enter into bios upon boot) then set the clock..
[06:59] <Avagant> Anyways in order to play that game, I need Wine.
[06:59] <madewokherd> what game?
[06:59] <orospakr> FaeLLe[gentoo] , System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[06:59] <Avagant> I don't want to use Wine because it's real glitch for me.
[06:59] <Avagant> RO
[06:59] <Avagant> I'm lame I know.
[07:00] <[1] Adam> achandra: would it be simple to find, like in the options - or would I need to type in a special command
[07:00] <madewokherd> I wasn't going to say anything
[07:00] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > orospakr, tell me how from the terminal please
[07:00] <jtjt> ANTDx1: ok I have my head in the clouds that is the parent directory  is there a line above that one that has yesterdays date on it
[07:00] <Rasta> someone has tried photoshop under vmware or another virtual machine? i have it installed with wine but it has some problems it isnt useful for serious work
[07:00] <achandra> [1] Adam: most modern bioses make it pretty easy..
[07:00] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , vino-preferences
[07:00] <drewzf> Is there a simple way to detect & mount windows-based hdd's?
[07:00] <Avagant> I used Wine for about a day.
[07:00] <orospakr> FaeLLe[gentoo] , read the manpages. ;)
[07:00] <ANTDx1> No.  Only today's date on that line.
[07:00] <Avagant> And it kinda got old.
[07:00] <ANTDx1> The line above it has a date from about two weeks ago.
[07:00] <tfw> hi folks. Just a *hopefully* simple one....
[07:00] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , but its still gui. i am unsure if theres an alternative
[07:01] <jtjt> ANTDx1: are there any files near the bottom of the list with yesterdays date
[07:01] <Avagant> mr-russ: Yah seriously.
[07:01] <ANTDx1> jtjt: nope...the one above that last one has a date from two weeks ago, and it says "."
[07:02] <Avagant> I haven't had too many problems myself, besides not knowing what I'm doing concerning root.
[07:02] <cute_bettong> Madpilot, can you help me with my ati problem?
[07:02] <Avagant> don't EVER change the permissions for /usr/bin EVER
[07:02] <jtjt> ANTDx1: ok  cd to  /lib/modules
[07:02] <tfw> I've managed to get an alias 'tv' to run my totem on fullscreen for tv-out...using a DISPLAY command.  So: tv myfile.avi works fine from terminal. What I want to do is to associate that with video files in gnome for simple double-click. Any thoughts?
[07:02] <Madpilot> cute_bettong, I'm not sure what to suggest - the basic wiki ATI stuff has always worked for me... sorry
[07:02] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, that helped thanks
[07:02] <AngryParsley> we don't need to give binaries in /usr/bin execute permission :rolleyes:
[07:02] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, im using gentoo *hides*
[07:03] <jtjt> ANTDx1: when you get to /lib/modules  execute  ls and tell me what directorys you have there
[07:03] <Avagant> AngryParsley: Hey this is my first week with Ubuntu give me a break.
[07:03] <madewokherd> tfw: I think there's an "open with" tab in properties if you right-click a file
[07:03] <madewokherd> yeah
[07:03] <Avagant> AngryParsley: Someone told me how to do that, and I just went crazy.
[07:03] <madewokherd> you should be able to add your command there and make it the default
[07:03] <ANTDx1> I have 3 directories...
[07:04] <tfw> madewok - thanks, but when I try that, and use 'Custom Command', it says "tv not found" - think it's looking for executables.
[07:04] <jtjt> ANTDx1: names please
[07:04] <Avagant> Low and behold, I couldn't get into sudo
[07:04] <madewokherd> it's probably not in your path
[07:04] <Avagant> topping: They don't last very long.
[07:04] <achandra> Someone on here had some pretty good resources to python...does anyone know what/where they were??
[07:04] <achandra> !python
[07:04] <ANTDx1> jtjt: 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic  2.6.15-26-amd64-generic  2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[07:04] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[07:04] <Avagant> topping: I've had to reinstall 3 times, and each time it's been slower and slower.
[07:04] <tfw> My only thought was to perhaps do a shell script - so I can run "tv.sh thing.avi" - but heh, can't write shell scripts.
[07:04] <Normal> I can't get X to initialize and think it might be my Nvidia driver. How do I update it from the command line?
[07:04] <tfw> madewok - alias isn't relevant to path, no? it's in my bash.rc
[07:04] <madewokherd> uh
[07:04] <topping> Avagant: it sounds like you could use some experience with linux first
[07:05] <pppoe_dude> Normal, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:05] <Avagant> topping: Yah probably. Haha
[07:05] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, pls guide me on how i might start it after that
[07:05] <j0lliyo> when i do modprobe ndiswrapper, i first get a segmentation fault, then when i try again it doesn't work at alle... just no response from the terminal until i press ctrl c
[07:05] <madewokherd> .bashrc only applies when you're in a terminal
[07:05] <jtjt> ANTDx1: execute  uname -r  and tell me tell me what it printed
[07:05] <j0lliyo> any idea what the problem might be?
[07:05] <madewokherd> gnome doesn't use it
[07:05] <Avagant> topping: Maybe I should just read up on everything BEFORE I do anything else.
[07:05] <tfw> Normal - I just did that with sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx   :: worked beatifully
[07:05] <ANTDx1> jtjt: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[07:05] <Avagant> I did manage to learn some command promp things though.
[07:05] <ellioTb> yeah, i have an ati in this laptop, i can only get the default drivers to work
[07:05] <topping> Avagant: on the other hand, ubuntu does not seem like the best environment to learn on either
[07:05] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , ? vino-preferences will give you a dialog that will allow you to set a password or key to the remote connection.
[07:06] <madewokherd> if you have an alias, it shouldn't be hard to turn it into a shell script
[07:06] <tfw> ok made, so how do I get my 'alias' to function from gnome?
[07:06] <achandra> j0lliyo: this could easily be that the driver is incompatible...is it a bcm4318??
[07:06] <Avagant> topping: It just kind of threw me into it.
[07:06] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , to connect, do vncviewer localhost:0
[07:06] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, it says no server is up :p
[07:06] <topping> avagant: try fedora!
[07:06] <Avagant> topping: Then everyones like Oh hey! Do this to get sound!
[07:06] <tfw> i can't just 'add it to path' can i?
[07:06] <madewokherd> there's a .gnomerc but I'm not sure "open with" will recognize aliases anyway
[07:06] <j0lliyo> achandra, i've used the same driver before
[07:06] <achandra> j0lliyo: other than that it could be an irq conflict as well
[07:06] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , did you check the right boxes?
[07:06] <Avagant> topping: Is fedora easier?
[07:06] <j0lliyo> i just did a reinstall
[07:06] <madewokherd> your best bet is to make a shell script
[07:06] <j0lliyo> and now it doesn't work
[07:06] <topping> Avagant: yes
[07:06] <Avagant> topping: Will my sound work out of the box? Haha
[07:06] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, all are ticked...
[07:06] <jtjt> ANTDx1: ok now execute   touch -t 10021500 /tmp/newer
[07:06] <achandra> j0lliyo: have you added any new device or memory??
[07:06] <topping> Avagant: the ubuntu installer is from 1998
[07:07] <j0lliyo> don't think so
[07:07] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , as in "allow others to view my desktop" and did u set a pwd, and did u uncheck "ask for permission"?
[07:07] <j0lliyo> ah a sound card
[07:07] <Avagant> Sheesh.
[07:07] <topping> Avagant: erm, no, it's from debian ahah
[07:07] <jtjt> ANTDx1: the  10021500  is important type it correctly
[07:07] <tfw> yeah. That's what I thought. So I tried a shell script...'open with' is happy to use one, but I'm a schmuck. Will just the same command in a file called 'tv.sh' work?
[07:07] <AngryParsley> Avagant: I'm just joking around dude, I've done dumber stuff
[07:07] <Avagant> topping: As long as my sound works, I'd be happy.
[07:07] <achandra> hmmm..
[07:07] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, ok trying with uncheck of ask for confirmation
[07:07] <madewokherd> sure
[07:07] <jtjt> ANTDx1: tell me when you have it done
[07:07] <Avagant> AngryParsley: Yah, that was pretty dumb of me.
[07:07] <ANTDx1> jtjt: I have it done.
[07:07] <tfw> madewok - testing.... :-D
[07:07] <madewokherd> you might need to take a few extra steps to make it an executable file
[07:07] <j0lliyo> lsusb stops working aswell after i get the fault
[07:07] <achandra> jolliyo: I had a similar problem when adding memory to my system...it just point blank freaked out when enabling ndiswrapper....due to irq conflict...another person had the same issue.
[07:08] <Avagant> AngryParsley: Then again it seemed like I could do anything!
[07:08] <topping> Avagant: since the sound card is supported by the kernel, it's likely to be supported by any linux distro
[07:08] <madewokherd> namely, insert "#/bin/sh" as the first line (no quotes)
[07:08] <jtjt> ANTDx1: ok one of the directorys in /lib/modules  has a 27 in it right
[07:08] <madewokherd> and chmod +x the file
[07:08] <ANTDx1> jtjt: yes
[07:08] <madewokherd> er
[07:08] <Avagant> topping: I don't understand why it doesn't work in Windows though.
[07:08] <madewokherd> sorry, #!/bin/sh
[07:08] <achandra> j0lliyo: see comment above...that is what I can think of for now...
[07:08] <Avagant> topping: via82xxx?
[07:08] <topping> Avagant: windows is suck
[07:08] <simpla> hi
[07:08] <AngryParsley> Avagant: most distros give you enough rope to hang yourself and then hang yourself again
[07:08] <jtjt> ANTDx1: ok  cd to that  directory the one that matches the output  of   the  uname -r  command you ran
[07:08] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, looks like its not started up......
[07:08] <achandra> jolliy0: does dmesg complain about anything or /var/log/messages?
[07:09] <AngryParsley> but the second time you hang yourself it's slower and more painful
[07:09] <Avagant> AngryParsley: Yah they definitley gave me too much.
[07:09] <jtjt> ANTDx1: tell me when you are there
[07:09] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , :S did u try doing it locally? just vncviewer localhost:0 from the same computer?
[07:09] <Avagant> Like when I couldn't get into any of my preferences OR get on Firefox to figure out how to change it.
[07:09] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, ps aux | grep vnc shows nothing
[07:09] <ANTDx1> jtjt: I am there.
[07:09] <topping> AngryParsley: but ubuntu appears to offer you razor wire to hang yourself with for the first round
[07:09] <AngryParsley> and sometimes the rope is made of detcord and you blow yourself up too (I'm looking at you LILO!)
[07:09] <jtjt> ANTDx1: is your  ANTDx1 name registered
[07:09] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , its |grep vino
[07:09] <j0lliyo> ok thanks
[07:09] <Geoffrey2> In Thunderbird, you could set up mailboxes so each account had it's own complete set of boxes (inbox, sent, draft, etc), is there any way to do that in Evolution?
[07:09] <ellioTb> man, its just fun finding new cool apps to install
[07:09] <j0lliyo> i'll try it out some more when i get home from work
[07:09] <jtjt> ANTDx1: i want to open a private channel
[07:09] <topping> AngryParsley: they question is whether it gets worse or better from there
[07:09] <ANTDx1> jtjt: It is not.  I will do that now.
[07:09] <snoop> FaeLLe[gentoo] : whats your problem with vnc?
[07:10] <AngryParsley> topping: depends on whether you keep incremental backups
[07:10] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, i am trying from same computer... but no vino process either
[07:10] <AngryParsley> or if your ubuntu box is a virtual machine
[07:10] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > snoop, just trying to get itt running
[07:10] <ellioTb> anyone ever get an OSX type dock to work?
[07:10] <jtjt> ANTDx1: ok register and we can open a pvt chan
[07:10] <j0lliyo> and no dmesg doesn't complain about anythinng
[07:10] <topping> jtjt: a private channel would be good to get away from us people that are just making noise
[07:10] <pppoe_dude> hmm... are you in gnome?
[07:10] <Avagant> topping: Can I dl fedora online?
[07:10] <topping> Avagant: yes
[07:10] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, KDE
[07:10] <Avagant> topping: Also, am I going to have to mount everything and blah blah all over again?
[07:10] <snoop> FaeLLe[gentoo] : the vnc server is running?
[07:10] <topping> Avagant: http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/
[07:10] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , Ok that explains it i think.
[07:11] <topping> Avagant: yes, but you can do it with a mouse
[07:11] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, i want it in KDE :/
[07:11] <tyler-wylie> can anyone here point me to a good howto on how to do dual monitors using open source 9250 driver pleeeease
[07:11] <jtjt> topping: you are not making noise it is just hard to see with all the mesg flying by  :)
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , 1 sec
[07:11] <ANTDx1> jtjt:  I have registered.
[07:11] <Avagant> topping: Also, haha is there a command line?
[07:11] <achandra> j0lliyo: when you said it worked before...that was in linux right...or are you referring to before as in windows or something??
[07:11] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, cool thanks
[07:11] <topping> jtjt: :)
[07:11] <topping> Avagant: yes, once you install it
[07:11] <j0lliyo> it's the exact same installation as i have now
[07:11] <j0lliyo> installed ubuntu from the same cd
[07:11] <jtjt> ANTDx1: ok i will open a channel to yo here comes
[07:11] <Avagant> Oh so it pretty much gives you that option huh?
[07:12] <Avagant> "if you want to be stupid and use a command line and screw everything up.."
[07:12] <snoop> FaeLLe[gentoo] : you have a vnc server running? and which one
[07:12] <achandra> j0lliyo: I have a suggestion...maybe starting deactivating or unplugging other devices and try it again...maybe you can isolate a conflict??
[07:12] <topping> Avagant: all linux distros have command lines
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , krfb
[07:12] <j0lliyo> yes i'm gonna try that when i get home from work
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> !info krfb
[07:12] <ubotu> krfb: Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 913 kB, installed size 1632 kB
[07:12] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > snoop, none yet
[07:12] <Avagant> Actually I feel pretty powerful with the command line. Haha
[07:12] <Avagant> Cept with power comes great responsibility
[07:13] <snoop> FaeLLe[gentoo] : for kde right?
[07:13] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > snoop, yea
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , it is useless to try and work vnc as a remote control
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , from experience :-
[07:13] <esac> hi, i installed AIGLX and Berly as instructed. I ran it via berly-manager and it worked great. I then added berly-manager to the session startup. it would start, and then X would crash and restart into gdm. ive tried getting it back into a sane state and tried running berly-manager manually again, but now it always does it. any ideas ?
[07:13] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, i want it for ScreenKast
[07:13] <madewokherd> Avagant: I sort of feel claustrophobic on windows for similar reasons I think
[07:13] <THX-1138> ppoe_dude - what is the option  for gnome?
[07:13] <j0lliyo> i can't do ndiswrapper -l either
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , check out krfb... should do what you want
[07:13] <snoop> FaeLLe[gentoo] : you have xfree86 ?
[07:13] <Avagant> madewokherd: I could never figure out "dos"
[07:14] <Avagant> WHich is probably why I'm having a hard time on the command line.
[07:14] <ellioTb> lol
[07:14] <j0lliyo> well anyways... later
[07:14] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > snoop, not sure
[07:14] <Avagant> fedora sounds interesting though.
[07:14] <ellioTb> i feel all kinds of lost in linux
[07:14] <Avagant> Maybe I should go look at it.
[07:14] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > compiling krfb now
[07:14] <Avagant> ellioTb: Take a number.
[07:14] <tfw> hi madewok. We have progress! The reason my shell script was doing nowt before was I was foolishly using #!/bin/bash (not sh)
[07:14] <Parisi> Fedora = awful
[07:14] <tfw> I have also added $1 after my command to pass the filename.
[07:15] <Avagant> I guess I'm too much of a windows baby.
[07:15] <madewokherd> use "$1"
[07:15] <madewokherd> with quotes
[07:15] <madewokherd> it'll prevent problems if you have spaces in a filename
[07:15] <madewokherd> sh is crazy like that
[07:15] <ellioTb> Avagant, we'll get it, just takes a bit, been programmed to use windows for so long
[07:15] <ellioTb> been using windows since 3.11, before that it was dos who knows
[07:16] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , any luck?
[07:16] <Avagant> I had an apple way back in the day...
[07:16] <AngryParsley> you can still use win 3.11: http://abughrai.be/pics/IE50.png
[07:16] <Avagant> I think I had to use the command line/dos whatever to open things up.
[07:16] <topping> Avagant: can you afford one now?
[07:16] <Avagant> Hahaha no.
[07:16] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, krfb is compiling
[07:16] <Avagant> Apple = way suck on price.
[07:16] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > give us a few
[07:16] <AngryParsley> apple's aren't that pricey now
[07:16] <ellioTb> Avagant, i bet they cost more back then
[07:16] <topping> Avagant: macbook
[07:16] <tfw> So - we have it opening. Mostly.  hahha - legend. you anticipated my next question. It's actually files on a mounted windows/smb share, and the spaces were killing it. Fixed. thanks
[07:16] <AngryParsley> also, you can sell used ones for pretty good
[07:17] <madewokherd> I want to use safari
[07:17] <Avagant> Although KDE reminds me of the Mac I had this year.
[07:17] <madewokherd> I'm uninterested in every other aspect of macs, but I want safari
[07:17] <AngryParsley> macs are great because of one thing: OS X
[07:17] <Avagant> Cept the time is in 24 instead of 12.
[07:17] <AngryParsley> seriously, it's soooo nice
[07:17] <topping> madewokherd: because it uses konqueror?
[07:17] <Avagant> OS X is alright if you have the latest version.
[07:17] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , lol oh ya forgot... gentoo guy
[07:17] <ellioTb> i want this gnome to look more like a mac, i followed the guide
[07:17] <Parisi> AngryParsley, Agreed.
[07:17] <madewokherd> I can use konqueror here
[07:17] <topping> AngryParsley: +1
[07:17] <Parisi> I wanted a mac just for OSX
[07:17] <Avagant> I couldn't get ANYTHING on my mac.
[07:17] <Parisi> Too expensuve tho.
[07:18] <AngryParsley> I mean it's 2006 and I only see one OS that looks like it's from 2006
[07:18] <Avagant> I had os x 10.2. 8
[07:18] <ellioTb> yeah, OSX is pretty slick
[07:18] <topping> mac us UNIX plus compatibility with Adobe/Microsoft
[07:18] <Parisi> The mini is a rip off at $599
[07:18] <AngryParsley> ubuntu is getting better but it still has a ways to go
[07:18] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, tehehehe
[07:18] <topping> s/us/is
[07:18] <AngryParsley> Parisi: well the price is higher due to the form factor and whatnot
[07:18] <tfw> madewok: 1 more noob question. So to finish. To get my (currently 'testing.sh') to the path, I put it where... (and can I name it 'tv' - extension irrelevant, yeah?)
[07:18] <Avagant> And it's now what 10.4?
[07:18] <AngryParsley> I have an ibook though
[07:18] <ellioTb> i want some of those transparency effects from Vista on here
[07:18] <AngryParsley> Avagant: yes, and there is a ton of new stuff since 10.2
[07:18] <Parisi> Seriously, $599 for a mac with integrated graphics (64 meg) and 512 ram is a poor excuse.
[07:18] <Avagant> If you have anything under 10.3 you are screwed.
[07:18] <tfw> /usr/bin?
[07:18] <AngryParsley> expose, dashboard, better finder
[07:19] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_thanks for helping me out though most people would just shoo me away to the other chan. though noone there right now who can assist
[07:19] <Avagant> I couldn't get anything to work.
[07:19] <topping> Avagant: 10.4 is best
[07:19] <Avagant> I wanted to use soulseek, no luck there.
[07:19] <madewokherd> tfw: the extension shouldn't matter
[07:19] <madewokherd> you can put it in /usr/bin, but I wouldn't if I were you
[07:19] <Avagant> Oh well, now I've got linux.
[07:19] <ellioTb> yeah, this laptop only has linux on it
[07:19] <tfw> oh, ok. Where should I? Just leave in home and hardwire the .avi to run from that?
[07:19] <ellioTb> figure it will force me to learn it
[07:19] <madewokherd> I'd export PATH=~/bin:$PATH in .gnomerc
[07:19] <topping> Avagant: get a good book on linux
[07:20] <madewokherd> or just point gnome directly to the file if that's possible
[07:20] <Avagant> Are there alot of tutorials online?
[07:20] <Avagant> haha
[07:20] <Avagant> topping: I can't remember the last time I had time to "read"
[07:20] <ellioTb> i keep learning stuff, then i forget it instantly
[07:20] <ellioTb> console commands that is
[07:20] <Normal> Thanks for the help, now I have to disconnect to share my internet with my troublesome ubuntu...:)
[07:21] <topping> Avagant: it takes less time to read than type here
[07:21] <Avagant> I'm lazy.
[07:21] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, trying to figure out where its installed
[07:21] <ellioTb> me too
[07:21] <ellioTb> i am too add to read about simple stuff
[07:21] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , wouldnt it be in path now?
[07:21] <ellioTb> if it was a 10 page tutorial on how to do something bad ase, i would be all over it
[07:21] <pppoe_dude> if using emerge
[07:22] <Avagant> I learned how to compile yesterday, that was fun.
[07:22] <Avagant> Or rather ./configure
[07:22] <madewokherd> "make"?
[07:22] <ellioTb> heh
[07:22] <Avagant> Yah
[07:22] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, apparently emerge didnt put krfb as a command
[07:22] <Avagant> That was fun stuff.
[07:22] <ellioTb> i remember that from back in the day when i played with linux
[07:22] <topping> does anyone know why cartman is so fat?
[07:22] <ellioTb> i had to custom build a machine to get hardware that worked with linux
[07:22] <ellioTb> now, ubuntu installed easier than xp or vista
[07:22] <topping> does he use ubuntu?
[07:22] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > but i found it
[07:22] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , try System->remote desktop
[07:22] <pppoe_dude> or such
[07:22] <topping> does ubuntu have a relation to mel gibson?
[07:22] <wooptydoo> good night...
[07:23] <Avagant> ellioTb: It seriously took me less time to load up linux then anything else.
[07:23] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > used slocate and grep with /bin to find it :p
[07:23] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > /usr/kde/3.5/bin/krfb
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> neat
[07:23] <jtjt> where are the  network config files in  debian
[07:23] <pppoe_dude> jtjt, /etc/network/interfaces
[07:23] <ellioTb> Avagant, yeah, got here so fast, then i feel like i can get around ok, just really confused
[07:23] <jtjt> pppoe_dude: thanks dude little new to debian so have to get use to where thing are
[07:23] <Avagant> Ubuntu at least the first time was like "BAM"
[07:23] <ellioTb> like being drunk
[07:24] <ellioTb> where you feel like you know what you are doing, but nothing works
[07:24] <Avagant> I'm scared myself.
[07:24] <Avagant> Like command prompts and debs and tars.
[07:24] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, well this is like a remote desktop invitation program......
[07:24] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, not exactly a vnc server
[07:24] <Avagant> I'm all..."Am I gonna screw something up?"
[07:24] <ellioTb> lol
[07:24] <ellioTb> i just wanna apt-install all the cool crap
[07:24] <ellioTb> thats what i have spent all my time doing, finding packages
[07:24] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , there should be something about 'uninvited connections'
[07:25] <tfw> madewokherd: Thanks for your help man, awesome. Simple answers to stupid questions...the sort of help that actually works :-D
[07:25] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15315.html
[07:25] <madewokherd> it's not stupid
[07:25] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , two thirds down the page
[07:25] <Avagant> ellioTb: Haha that can get you in trouble.
[07:25] <madewokherd> it took me a long time and a few stupid hacks before I found .gnomerc :p
[07:25] <ellioTb> i knnoow
[07:25] <ellioTb> but worst case scenario, i can reinstall in 5 minutes
[07:25] <Avagant> ellioTb: I don't even remember half the stuff i've installed
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , near "running the application"
[07:26] <Avagant> ellioTb: It's probably all worthless.
[07:26] <tfw> Well, took me 10 minutes & irc. heh. Right, time for me to call it a night. Cheers!
[07:26] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, yea i got it running
[07:26] <Geoffrey2> is dapper-udpates the backport repository?
[07:26] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, trying to figure out where the uninvited stuff is
[07:26] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > hold up
[07:26] <Geoffrey2> er, dapper-updates, that is
[07:26] <ellioTb> Avagant, lol, i have ubuntu just like i like it on my other comp
[07:26] <Avagant> I got all the codecs I need though.
[07:26] <Madpilot> Geoffrey2, no
[07:26] <ellioTb> Avagant, then i set it up on this laptop, couldn't remember anything i installed on there
[07:27] <ellioTb> Avagant, and it was like 2 days ago
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , click the configure button
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , instead of messin with invitations
[07:27] <OmniD> I have a drive I cannot get write access for some reason.
[07:27] <Avagant> I didn't realize kde had 159 packages included though. Haha
[07:27] <OmniD> An external HDD
[07:27] <madewokherd> OmniD: is it ntfs?
[07:27] <OmniD> umm I think FAT32
[07:27] <pppoe_dude> should be like vino from there, FaeLLe[gentoo] 
[07:27] <OmniD> I can't check though
[07:27] <Avagant> I was like OH NOES
[07:27] <OmniD> I mean I could
[07:27] <OmniD> I don't know how though
[07:28] <madewokherd> you can read it?
[07:28] <OmniD> Yep
[07:28] <Avagant> But it's ok...I'll just reinstall someday. Probably have to soon.
[07:28] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, somethings wrong configure wont bring up anything
[07:28] <OmniD> Read, but not write
[07:28] <ellioTb> oh well, catch yall later, gonna go install some fun stuff
[07:28] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > let me try find it in a kde menu rather than invoke myself
[07:28] <madewokherd> system monitor will tell you that
[07:28] <madewokherd> under devices
[07:28] <madewokherd> mount will also tell you if you like the command line
[07:28] <OmniD> ACK
[07:28] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, got it
[07:28] <OmniD> It IS NTFS!!
[07:28] <OmniD> Argh
[07:29] <Avagant> !gparted
[07:29] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:29] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , cool. any better?
[07:29] <OmniD> That would help me?
[07:29] <Avagant> !gparted OmniD
[07:29] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[07:29] <pppoe_dude> !ubotu > Avagant
[07:29] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, yea now let me try connect using vncviewer
[07:29] <Avagant> Me either really, but I had the same problem.
[07:29] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , should be compat
[07:30] <OmniD> installing gparted
[07:30] <OmniD> wait will this format it?>
[07:30] <OmniD> Or just change the type of partition
[07:30] <madewokherd> it will if you tell it to
[07:30] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, worked cool :D
[07:30] <OmniD> Okay but I can preserve the files right?
[07:30] <Avagant> You can format it to ext3
[07:30] <Flannel> OmniD: if you change the type, it has to partition it
[07:30] <Flannel> OmniD: er, format
[07:30] <wass_> hi, I would like tu rename 300 files with bash.  I want to remove the first 13 chars from each file.  how can I do that ?
[07:30] <royal> hey guys whats up?
[07:30] <OmniD> So the files will stay though
[07:30] <OmniD> I have 200 gigs of files on it
[07:30] <Avagant> I don't think so.
[07:30] <Avagant> Ouch.
[07:30] <OmniD> :/
[07:30] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , i went through that prob a long time ago... tryin to manually configure vnc to do remote desktop, to no avail
[07:31] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, works with screenkast too :)
[07:31] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , so decided gui's are a more sensible way to do this
[07:31] <Geoffrey2> Madpilot, could you tell me how to gain access to it?  I'm trying on source-o-matic, but it doesn't seem to be generating the line to add in source list to get it
[07:31] <OmniD> Well... I'll burn all the files on it I want
[07:31] <Flannel> OmniD: no, if you change the partition type, it has to reformat it.
[07:31] <Avagant> That's what I did, so that I could have more than just read access on my second hd.
[07:31] <Avagant> Worked like a charm.
[07:31] <madewokherd> fat32 should read/write fine anyway :/
[07:31] <Madpilot> Geoffrey2, source-o-matic should have it - look for dapper-backports
[07:32] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > pppoe_dude, is supposed to show the other persons desktop too once you accept initation ?
[07:32] <Avagant> I work fast.
[07:32] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > screenkast (vnc recorder) started going nuts and nested the desktop till it crashed :p
[07:32] <Avagant> Who had that problem with renaming files?
[07:32] <Avagant> I just want to make a point here to NEVER -R /usr/bin
[07:32] <pppoe_dude> lol
[07:33] <Avagant> n_n d carry on
[07:33] <pppoe_dude> FaeLLe[gentoo] , not familiar with screenkast, but desktop sharing should be just like vnc
[07:33] <FaeLLe[gentoo] > ok ill figure it out np :)
[07:33] <pppoe_dude> maybe it was nesting itself
[07:33] <Geoffrey2> Madpilot, well, it probably should, since it's an option you can check, but I've run it several times and it's not including the backports line
[07:33] <drew> What would I use in place of hd(0,0) for hdd1?
[07:33] <ellioTb> anyone gotten the Engage dock to install?
[07:34] <Madpilot> Geoffrey2, odd. I don't use the backports myself, so I can't give you my sources.list in this case
[07:34] <Geoffrey2> Madpilot, ok, thanks anyway :)
[07:35] <Avagant> So yah, ubuntu...
[07:35] <Avagant> wow.
[07:35] <warlock__> How do I search every file for one specific line?
[07:35] <madewokherd> EVERY file?
[07:35] <warlock__> yes
[07:35] <ellioTb> no one has engage huh
[07:35] <jmerlin> grep ?
[07:35] <warlock__> Or in a dir
[07:35] <madewokherd> um
[07:35] <warlock__> ex /home/*
[07:36] <jmerlin> anyone have any idea why my ubuntu freezes up sometimes?
[07:36] <jmerlin> sometimes it runs for days without any problems..
[07:36] <madewokherd> find /home/|xargs grep "a line"
[07:36] <jmerlin> sometimes in 10 minutes i'll be browsing the web and it freezes up.. just freezes..
[07:36] <madewokherd> or grep --recursive "a line" /home/
[07:36] <madewokherd> I think the first form makes more sense
[07:36] <drew> What would I use in place of hd(0,0) for hdd1? I'm trying to add a windows install to my grub list
[07:36] <tyler-wylie> So yea I can't get dual monitors working, well they both work but they are the same thing, no right by etc
[07:38] <ANTDx1> Ok guys I have found a problem that may have been causing all my other problems: it appers as though NetworkManager is taking up 95+% of my CPU
[07:38] <ANTDx1> does anyone know what it might be doing with all that CPU power?
[07:38] <fuffalo> is it possible to write to an ntfs partition from ubuntu
[07:39] <Flannel> fuffalo: technically yes, but not safely.  You might lose data
[07:39] <LookTJ> where is gdm.conf located?
[07:39] <LookTJ> anyone here/
[07:39] <LookTJ> ?
[07:39] <ANTDx1> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu's NetworkManager?
[07:40] <LookTJ> where is gdm.conf in ubuntu?
[07:40] <madewokherd> LookTJ: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:40] <LookTJ> thanks
[07:40] <LookTJ> sorry for repeat
[07:41] <royal> so how do you install XGL/Compiz?
[07:41] <Flannel> royal: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:41] <Healot> !compiz
[07:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:41] <Healot> yeah #ubuntu-xgl :0
[07:43] <warlock__> Does anyone know hwo to recompile the kernel to 1000HZ ?
[07:43] <warlock__> using 2.5 SMP kernel with ubuntu 5.10 breezy
[07:43] <madewokherd> uh why are you still using breezy?
[07:44] <snoop> 5.10 thats outdated
[07:46] <LookTJ> Sup y'all
[07:47] <stonarmusic> anyone know why audio cd burning doesn't work anymore? was there an update that could have broken it?
[07:48] <Normal> Oivay,I've tried all sorts of things to get X going, to no avail. I hope someone can help me. Here's a link to my problems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1574298#post1574298  .Don't worry about answering there, I'm here!:)
[07:50] <Normal> Hmmmm....so quiet!
[07:50] <royal> yup
[07:50] <thombone> huh?? what happened to lilo? Sorry if OT
[07:51] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me troubleshoot a wireless connection?  I have all the required software installed, and the WiFi light is on, but I can't connect to the router....
[07:51] <Normal> I've been trying to install ubuntu for 12hours straight now.......
[07:51] <nex_> hi
[07:52] <nex_> can anyone help me install the latest nvidia drivers on dapper?
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> thombone: http://freenode.net/news.shtml
[07:52] <DrewZF> nex_, describe your problem...
[07:52] <nex_> well, what packages do i need exactly?
[07:52] <thombone> thank you tonyyarusso
[07:52] <SatanGolga> what other gui-irc-chats are there than xchat?
[07:53] <nex_> cause until now, i've had to restart 4 times installing different packages it has been requiring
[07:53] <nex_> libc, make, gcc
[07:53] <nex_> what else?
[07:53] <nex_> so i don't need to keep restarting all the time
[07:53] <DrewZF> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:53] <nex_> rgr
[07:53] <madewokherd> SatanGolga: chatzilla
[07:53] <DrewZF> or essentials, can't quite remember.
[07:54] <madewokherd> gaim can do it too, but most people don't like gaim for irc for some reason
[07:54] <SatanGolga> madewokherd: ok, thanks
[07:54] <thombone> that is crushing news, I've spoken to Rob many many times... a wonderful soul.
[07:54] <nex_> done
[07:54] <nex_> thanks
[07:54] <DrewZF> thombone, There have been reports that his death can't be proven
[07:54] <nex_> let's see if that worked
[07:54] <DrewZF> nex_, You should be okay now.
[07:55] <nex_> thanks Drew
[07:55] <nex_> gonna go try it now
[07:55] <jgerber> anyone using compiz having problems with the latest upgrade?
[07:55] <stonarmusic> I burned audio cds just the other day and now it says "The plugin to handle a file of type audio/mpeg is not installed.'
[07:55] <jgerber> lost my windows decorations
[07:55] <jgerber> anyone else?
[07:56] <jgerber> compiz anyone?
[07:56] <Healot> stonarmusic, can you play MPEG video or MP3?
[07:57] <stonarmusic> Healot - yes
[07:57] <Healot> stonarmusic, got lame?
[07:58] <thombone> DrewZF: that would be pretty sick if a hoax. I doubt Rob would do such a thing, sorry for OT again I'll go private
[07:58] <Healot> it's not even April yet:
[07:59] <nex_> ahhhh
[07:59] <nex_> Kernel Source files anyone?
[07:59] <stonarmusic> Healot - yes, got Lame
[08:00] <nex_> nvidia driver install is asking me to install the kernel source files...
[08:00] <Healot> burning with k3b or gnomebaker?
[08:00] <echosyp> anyone feel like helping me get my smartcard reader working
[08:00] <Normal> Everytime I try to boot from the dapper cd, I get "uncompressing linux...Ok,booting to kernel." Then a blinking cursor and nothing else. What do I do?
[08:01] <stonarmusic> Healot - gnomebaker and serpentine
[08:01] <stonarmusic> Healot - they both worked a couple days ago
[08:01] <echosyp> gempc430
[08:02] <Healot> you're trying to burn MPEG audio into Audio CD right?
[08:02] <Healot> and it works previously?
[08:02] <stonarmusic> Healot - yes, i think so, mp3s to audio cd
[08:03] <nex_> is nvidia-glx any better than the current driver?
[08:03] <nex_> any suggestions????/
[08:03] <Healot> you did the same thing previously with success?
[08:03] <stonarmusic> Healot - yes just the other day
[08:03] <echosyp> i require assistance
[08:04] <tyler-wylie> god this sucks trying to get dual monitors working :(
[08:04] <tyler-wylie> tried the wiki.ubuntu howto
[08:04] <tyler-wylie> no luck
[08:04] <echosyp> i have been googling for hours
[08:04] <nex_> does anyone know how to get the nvidia driver installed?
[08:04] <echosyp> and have also had no luck
[08:05] <Healot> stonarmusic, hum, can't say much, try to delete the gnomebaker settings (at your home directory), and try to burn again?
[08:05] <stonarmusic> Healot - ok, but serpentine is broken as well
[08:06] <tuskernini> Hi all, how do I ... lspci > clipboard ?
[08:06] <Healot> updated gnomebaker? stonarmusic ?
[08:06] <echosyp> don't konw about clipboard
[08:07] <echosyp> but you can echo it to a file
[08:07] <echosyp> lspci > filename
[08:07] <echosyp> and thats that
[08:08] <tuskernini> i thought that it would be possible to "copy" the output of ls to paste directly
[08:08] <echosyp> just copy and past it
[08:08] <Healot> echosyp, lspci... select the output with your mouse, click right and select the menu copy
[08:08] <echosyp> paste
[08:08] <echosyp> i don't need that
[08:08] <echosyp> i know
[08:08] <echosyp> i need help with my smartcard reader
[08:09] <echosyp> wanna help me with that?
[08:09] <stonarmusic> mebbe i'll try a reboot...
[08:09] <Healot> smartcard reader?
[08:09] <tuskernini> healot, that is how i used to do it... just wanted to try something new
[08:09] <tuskernini> thankx
[08:09] <Healot> humm fancy hardware
[08:09] <echosyp> heh
[08:09] <tuskernini> thankx
[08:09] <echosyp> not really
[08:10] <echosyp> im 1337
[08:10] <echosyp> except not
[08:10] <LookTJ> if anyone has problems with ati and gdm i can fix it
[08:10] <LookTJ> :)
[08:10] <echosyp> i have a problem with a smartcard reader
[08:10] <echosyp> fix that
[08:10] <LookTJ> lol
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> if I uninstall firefox and reinstall it, will I lose anything?
[08:11] <echosyp> gempc430
[08:11] <echosyp> BHSPitLappy, just be safe and back it up anyway
[08:11] <echosyp> why would you need to uninstall and reinstall anyway
[08:15] <echosyp> anyone feel like assisting me?
[08:16] <echosyp> guess not
[08:16] <echosyp> bitches
[08:17] <hastesaver> Can I use the apt cache on one machine on another, somehow? So that I won't have to redownload lots of packages again?
[08:18] <FunnyMan3595> When I set my connection to use a static IP instead of DHCP, I can connect to some things (e.g. web, ssh) but not others (IRC, World of Warcraft).  Only thing I can come up with offhand that might cause a problem is that inside the LAN, this computer is named when using the static IP, but that name isn't usable outside.
[08:18] <Healot> hastesaver, logon to that machine?
[08:19] <stonarmusic> ok, so maybe something is wrong with the file, cause now I can burn other mps, but not that one. gnomebaker throwa an error during transcoding
[08:19] <bimberi_> hastesaver: if you transfer the .deb files from&to /var/cache/apt/archives the machine will get them from there instead of downloading when you (dist-)upgrade
[08:20] <stonarmusic> is there a way to see more info about a file, it's filetype comes up as mp3, maybe it's something else?
[08:20] <Healot> file
[08:20] <Healot> file file
[08:20] <stonarmusic> k
[08:20] <hastesaver> bimberi_, is that safe? nothing will get broken?
[08:21] <snoop> .
[08:21] <wrabbit^> Any python programmers here?
[08:21] <bimberi_> hastesaver: hasn't broken for me yet
[08:21] <hastesaver> bimberi_, I just have to scp -r the files from machine A to machien B?
[08:21] <stonarmusic> hmmm, looks ok ' MPEG ADTS, layer III, v2,  64 kBits, 22.05 kHz, Stereo'
[08:21] <madewokherd> wrabbit^: I'm a python programmer, why?
[08:21] <erpo> When I Ctrl-Alt-F1, I get a blank, turned-off screen on my laptop. Yet according to /etc/inittab I have getty running on this terminal. What's wrong?
[08:22] <bimberi_> hastesaver: i don't know scp but yeah, transfer using your method of choice :)
[08:22] <madewokherd> erpo: had you edited your inittab before this started?
[08:22] <erpo> When I Ctrl-Alt-F7 from this blank screen, I get my graphical desktop again.
[08:22] <erpo> madewokherd: No, I haven't.
[08:22] <madewokherd> oh
[08:22] <madewokherd> I had something like that happen when I accidentally broke mine :/
[08:23] <bimberi_> erpo: hitting the Enter key do anything (ie. bring up a login prompt)
[08:23] <bimberi_> ?
[08:23] <wrabbit^> madewokherd: I'm just starting up and for the life of me, I can't find the interpreter path.  One of the first tutes involves me adding something like #! /usr/bin/env python to the start of my script but there's nothing there.
[08:23] <hastesaver> bimberi_, great, I'll try it. And if something goes wrong, where can I find you to beat up? :-)
[08:23] <wrabbit^> madewokherd: any idea where it's kept?  Ubuntu seems to have installed it for me and I don't know where it is
[08:23] <erpo> bimberi_: No, and when I switch to F1, the backlight on my screen turns off so it's totally black.
[08:24] <madewokherd> wrabbit^: type "which python"
[08:24] <wrabbit^> madewokherd: ah, /usr/bin/python
[08:24] <LookTJ> erpo: you have ATI?
[08:24] <bimberi_> erpo: erk.  how about F2 to F6
[08:24] <wrabbit^> madewokherd: thank you
[08:24] <bimberi_> ?
[08:24] <haydenAU> is it possible to install ubuntu-ppc and run it from an external drive on an ibook?
[08:24] <erpo> bimberi_: Same results on F2-F6.
[08:24] <erpo> LookTJ: No, nvidia.
[08:25] <LookTJ> oh
[08:25] <LookTJ> :(
[08:25] <bimberi_> erpo: hmm.  that's me done at this point then sorry :|
[08:25] <tyler-wylie> anyone here good at xorg tweaking, tried getting dual head monitors setup and basically screwed up my xorg.conf so I went to my backup and need someone to help me out ^^
[08:25] <cpk2> haydenAU: probably I am running x86 arch on my laptop which only has an external drive
[08:25] <erpo> I'm using the binary kernel module and a properly configured X so I can get direct rendering.
[08:25] <erpo> *hardware accelerated rendering.
[08:25] <haydenAU> cpk2: ok
[08:26] <stonarmusic> must just be a bad mp3 or something, i renamed and tried it from another directory, and still errors
[08:27] <echosyp> ok
[08:27] <echosyp> so i have this smartcard reader (gempc430)
[08:27] <echosyp> and i want to be able to read/write to it
[08:27] <echosyp> but im at a loss
[08:28] <echosyp> cause i can't figure out how
[08:28] <echosyp> i don't have any sd* in /dev/
[08:28] <stonarmusic> oh wait, mpeg adts layer III, is not the same as mp3. i wonder if lame will convert it?
[08:29] <haldor> echosyp: tried looking in /media
[08:30] <FunnyMan3595> When I set my connection up to use a static IP instead of DHCP, I can connect to some things (web, ssh) but not others (IRC, World of Warcraft).  Offhand the only major difference I can think of (besides the obvious) is that the static IP has a name on the LAN, which isn't usable from outside.  The way the connections don't work is weird, they look like they're trying to open, and then they just sit there forever.  (Sorry for the repeat, Gnome deci
[08:30] <echosyp> ./media is a dir i have mounted
[08:30] <echosyp> another partition
[08:30] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, does mplayer play it?
[08:31] <FunnyMan3595> I'm wondering if the computer might be passing the LAN name it sees outwards, and when a protocol needs to create a connection back, it tries to use that, but it doesn't exist.
[08:31] <polttaja> hello
[08:32] <polttaja> I have got a little problem.. sorry, I have tried to solve it with forums etc, but I haven't find the solution...
[08:32] <polttaja> so, some files whose I have saved with ubuntu to a fat32-partition, don't be visible in windows...
[08:32] <echosyp> your english is poor
[08:32] <stonarmusic> hastesaver - yes, mplayer, totem, etc..
[08:32] <polttaja> is this some charset problem or something that?
[08:33] <echosyp> check file attributes
[08:33] <cafuego> polttaja: Can Ubuntu still see them on that fat32 partition?
[08:33] <echosyp> make sure they aren't hidden
[08:33] <polttaja> cafuego: yes...
[08:33] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, so what gives the errors?
[08:33] <stonarmusic> i'm going to try to convert it with lame
[08:33] <polttaja> but windows can't.
[08:33] <cafuego> polttaja: Do they contain non-ascii characters?
[08:33] <stonarmusic> hastesaver - gnomebaker and serpentine, when i try to burn it to audio cd
[08:33] <echosyp> you guys suck
[08:33] <polttaja> cafuego: not everyone
[08:33] <echosyp> im going to bed
[08:34] <polttaja> some contains, some not.
[08:34] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, you can do "mplayer -ao pcm"
[08:35] <stonarmusic> hastesaver - to convert it?
[08:35] <polttaja> I'm not sure, but I supposed that they are usually files which I have saved from the internet by firefox
[08:35] <openedu> hello, is 2.6.15-27-386 the latest kernel?
[08:35] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, it will create a .wav file, which you can then burn to CD
[08:35] <mneptok> openedu: for i386, yes.
[08:35] <stonarmusic> k, doing it
[08:35] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, you can also, of course, convert it to mp3 with lame, for "future use"... but you don't have to get an mp3, right?
[08:36] <stonarmusic> hastesaver, no just something that will burn to audio cd
[08:37] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, yeah, the "-ao pcm" (it will create audiodump.wav, watch out if you happen to have a file with the same name :-) is best
[08:38] <polttaja> can anyone help me with this file problem?
[08:38] <mneptok> polttaja: what problem?
[08:38] <stonarmusic> now gnomebaker says 'The plugin to handle a file of type audio/x-wav is not installed.'
[08:38] <openedu> mneptok, thanks
[08:38] <polttaja> that disappeared files in windows...
[08:38] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, what? It can use mp3s but not wav? This is sad :)
[08:39] <stonarmusic> lemme try serpentine
[08:39] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, ok, go ahead and use lame to make an mp3... or use something better than gnomebaker :)
[08:39] <stonarmusic> lol
[08:39] <polttaja> that if I saved a file to a fat32-partition by ubuntu, that hasn't necessarily on windows
[08:39] <mneptok> polttaja: *what* files? assume i didn;t read the original description of the problem, since ... you know ... i didn't read the original description of the problem. ;)
[08:40] <theunruled> hi guys
[08:40] <theunruled> can someone give me a link to a fluxbox tutorial?
[08:40] <mneptok> polttaja: so you save files from Linux onto a FAT32 partition, and then Windows does not see those files?
[08:40] <polttaja> mneptok: just so
[08:40] <polttaja> that's the problem
[08:41] <mneptok> polttaja: do the files contain characters in their names that might piss off Windows?
[08:41] <polttaja> sometimes yes, sometimes not
[08:41] <stonarmusic> serpentine doesnt seem to know how to burn wavs
[08:41] <mneptok> polttaja: did you try renaming them )or otherwise manipulating them) in Linux and see if Windows can then see them?
[08:41] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, file a bug!
[08:41] <polttaja> the problem is sometimes with only ASCII-names too
[08:42] <mneptok> polttaja: have you defragged that drive using the Windows tools recently?
[08:42] <polttaja> yes I have tried. but it not works
[08:42] <mneptok> polttaja: sounds like the allocation table is not being updated properly. or not read properly.
[08:42] <haydenAU> cpk2, is that external drive you said you use on your laptop connect via firewire or usb?
[08:43] <mneptok> polttaja: if i were you, i'd re-format that FAT32 partition to ext3 and then install the Windows ext2/3 driver. :)
[08:43] <polttaja> mneptok: yes I tried too, but te windows defragnent tool gives an error message: "a corrupt file founded.000"
[08:43] <mneptok> polttaja: but that's me. i would never trust my data to a filesystem developed by chimps.
[08:43] <cpk2> haydenAU: usb
[08:43] <haydenAU> cpk2, and what that with an intel mac?
[08:44] <cpk2> haydenAU: no, it was an x86 laptop
[08:44] <polttaja> mneptok: perhaps... but I had never file problems with old mandrake linux 9
[08:44] <haydenAU> cpk2, ok
[08:44] <mneptok> polttaja: maybe the file allocation table wasn't destroyed by Windows when you were running Mandriva?
[08:45] <cpk2> haydenAU: so i suppose ppc might be different but i would think odd if you couldnt do that with a ppc
[08:45] <polttaja> there files worked with linux and windows fine
[08:45] <mneptok> polttaja: "it used to work 6 months ago using this other OS" is not a guarantee that it still works.
[08:45] <haydenAU> cpk2, yea i think i remembered that mac os x can't boot from an external usb drive only firewire
[08:45] <polttaja> mneptok: I haven't used mandrake/mandriva with this computer... it was on my old one
[08:45] <mneptok> polttaja: immaterial.
[08:46] <polttaja> what?
[08:46] <cpk2> haydenAU: oh, well i suppose that might be a problem =\
[08:46] <haydenAU> cpk2, yea :(
[08:46] <mneptok> polttaja: saying "it used to work on another machine with another version of Linux" does not tell you anything.
[08:47] <stonarmusic> hastesaver - does that '-ao pcm' trick work for streams as well?
[08:47] <polttaja> of course I know that
[08:47] <polttaja> I only said...
[08:48] <mneptok> polttaja: the most helpful clue is that Microsoft's own filesystem tools fail to work on that disk. That's Bad(tm).
[08:48] <cpk2> haydenAU: although i think it would be the bios that determines if it can boot from usb or not
[08:48] <mneptok> polttaja: either the drive's format is suspect, or the drive itself is.
[08:49] <polttaja> yes... I know that fat32 is only a compromise..
[08:49] <polttaja> but thanks. perhaps I will found some solution to my problem..
[08:50] <mneptok> polttaja: when someone says "either the drive's format is suspect, or the drive itself is" it's time to not look for a fix, but for an "oh crap!" moment where you begin backing up data :)
[08:51] <polttaja> :)
[08:51] <kishore> hi
[08:51] <mneptok> polttaja: i suggest you backup all the data on the drive, reformat it as ext3, and run it *hard* under Linux for a week or two until you are assured that the drive is not physically compromised.
[08:52] <polttaja> but what disk format would be the best solution to use same partition for windows and ubuntu files..?
[08:53] <kishore> i had.. formatted windows n now installed again. then onwards.. my drives r not opening in ubuntu
[08:53] <kishore> can any one help me..
[08:53] <mneptok> polttaja: ext3
[08:53] <polttaja> but but... windows hasn't got suppert for ext3..? or?
[08:53] <mneptok> 02:43 < mneptok> polttaja: if i were you, i'd re-format that FAT32 partition to ext3 and then install the Windows ext2/3 driver. :)
[08:53] <polttaja> hmm?
[08:53] <polttaja> does it works? =P
[08:54] <polttaja> it isn't an official windows plugin from microsoft?
[08:54] <mneptok> no
[08:54] <polttaja> so the problems will be with linux then perhaps...
[08:54] <mneptok> that's why it works
[08:55] <mneptok> huh?
[08:55] <kishore> how to get my.. drives back........
[08:55] <polttaja> hmm. I'm a little bit sceptic... I have never heard about win ext3 support
[08:56] <mneptok> polttaja: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[08:56] <hastesaver> kishore, you had ubuntu installed, and then you installed Windows?
[08:57] <polttaja> but that is ext2 system?
[08:57] <xipietotec> is there any way to check my memory in ubuntu?
[08:57] <kishore> hastesaver, no.. fist windows.. then ubuntu......... then.. formatted.. widows..n again.. installed..
[08:57] <polttaja> and I have heard that ext2 isn't very good?
[08:57] <hastesaver> xipietotec, what memory? Disk space? RAM? Your personal memories? :-)
[08:57] <mneptok> polttaja: spend 2 minutes reading before asking questions like that? please? ;)
[08:57] <xipietotec> ram
[08:57] <polttaja> ok, sorry. :)
[08:57] <kishore> hastesaver, tat too only.. c:
[08:57] <mneptok> " The Ext3 file system is the Ext2 file system which has been extended by journaling. Ext3 is backward-compatible to Ext2 - an Ext3 volume can be mounted and used as an Ext2 volume. Just as older Linux Kernels which do not know the Ext3 file system can mount Ext3 volumes (as Ext2 volumes), the Ext2 file system driver ext2fs.sys for Windows incorporated in this software package can do it without any problems, too. Of course you do not take advantage of ...
[08:57] <kishore> not all other drvies
[08:58] <mneptok> ... the journaling of the Ext3 file system if you mount it as an Ext2 file system.
[08:58] <hastesaver> xipietotec, you can use "free", but be warned that Linux caches memory to be faster, so much more might be free than is shown
[08:58] <xipietotec> I'm just talking about displaying maximum physically recognized memory
[08:58] <mneptok> xipietotec: top
[08:59] <xipietotec> top?
[08:59] <mneptok> xipietotec: memory is shown right at the top of the top display
[08:59] <Madpilot> 'free' shows total memory as well as mem in use
[08:59] <polttaja> hmm. ok. thanks... I will think that... :)
[08:59] <mneptok> xipietotec: it will show physical as well as swap, and how much of each is in use.
[08:59] <Madpilot> 'free -m' is even better - it uses Megabytes to display - far easier to parse
[08:59] <fubuntu> do guys remember what the partitioning software was used when installing ubuntu 6.06?
[08:59] <LookTJ> good night y'all
[09:00] <LookTJ> :P
[09:00] <fubuntu> well, its screwed my NTFS partition _real_ nice
[09:00] <fubuntu> ubuntu == people unix
[09:00] <xipietotec> Jeez, I'm using 1/2 my memory
[09:00] <fubuntu> it's like they say
[09:00] <mneptok> xipietotec: no, you're not.
[09:00] <xipietotec>  1002500     575876     426624
[09:00] <Flannel> xipietotec: unused memory is wasted memory.  Linux puts stuff there even if its not using it, because it might use it in the future
[09:00] <xipietotec> Total, used, free
[09:01] <fubuntu> i take it it's the user's fault for deciding to go w/ ubuntu
[09:01] <Madpilot> xipietotec, most of that is probably cache - I'm using 90% of my 1Gb right now, but 50% is cache
[09:01] <mneptok> fubuntu: Linux did not do anything to your drive or partition that you didn't tell it to do.
[09:01] <fubuntu> really?
[09:01] <hastesaver> kishore, look at this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows make *very* sure you pick the right section.
[09:01] <fubuntu> i'll bet u $100
[09:01] <fubuntu> i told it to resize my ntfs partition by 200mb
[09:01] <mneptok> fubuntu: i'm guessing you sliced off a chunk of free space to use with Ubuntu, and now the original NTFS partition has problems?
[09:01] <fubuntu> and what i get is a corrupted drive
[09:02] <xipietotec> ah, okay...Used to windows where if you're using 90% of your memory...that's 90% of your memory
[09:02] <fubuntu> sorry
[09:02] <fubuntu> corrupted partition
[09:02] <mneptok> fubuntu: did you completely defragment the drive with the XP tools before doing that?
[09:02] <Madpilot> xipietotec, nope, Linux will use as much of your memory as it can for cache, but it's good about freeing it when it's needed by apps
[09:02] <xipietotec> cool
[09:02] <fubuntu> well, i did and partition magic (being leet and all) wouldn't let me resize w/o fragmenting
[09:02] <fubuntu> so assuming that after resizing originally for fedora core 5
[09:02] <fubuntu> i didn't need to do it again
[09:03] <fubuntu> but since ubuntu requires 2 gigs
[09:03] <fubuntu> ... hey, 200mb more
[09:03] <fubuntu> bam
[09:03] <fubuntu> 'no more 25 gig
[09:03] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:03] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:03] <aeroSoul> backups can be very useful sometimes... :] 
[09:03] <fubuntu> i know just like partition of ubuntu
[09:03] <fubuntu> i mean software partition
[09:03] <fubuntu> to late for this, just wondering if u guys came accross this
[09:03] <Flannel> fubuntu: in all honesty, linux does the best it can with ntfs, but, like writing, resizing isn't 100% safe.
[09:04] <mneptok> xipietotec: picture someone walking into an empty room and finding an entire cake. they immediately think, "that WHOLE cake is mine!" they then horde the cake. five minutes later, a supermodel walks in and says, "that cake looks good. i'd do just about *anything* to have a piece. the smart guy gives her a piece of cake. Linux is smart.
[09:04] <fubuntu> i don't understand why ubuntu requires 2 gigs
[09:04] <fubuntu> i don't care for gimp or media players and i want gcc by default w/ root account
[09:04] <fubuntu> that's ppl friendly
[09:04] <mneptok> fubuntu: you have a root account
[09:04] <xipietotec> gotcha =)
[09:04] <Madpilot> fubuntu, then find another distro...
[09:04] <fubuntu> sudo != root
[09:05] <mneptok> fubuntu: sudo su = root
[09:05] <fubuntu> that's hax
[09:05] <mneptok> that's what?
[09:05] <fubuntu> so what's the purpose of sudo
[09:06] <Madpilot> fubuntu, it lets you do admin w/o wasting time with a 2nd password
[09:06] <aeroSoul> there is a root account... you just dont have the pw =)
[09:06] <mneptok> to eliminate the ability for root to login remotely. for auditing of commands used with root privileges.
[09:06] <hastesaver> fubuntu, "sudo -i"
[09:06] <fubuntu> thanks
[09:06] <hastesaver> fubuntu, and edgy has gcc by defaulot
[09:07] <fubuntu> i just felt like bragging to some one about my corrupt 25 gig of work... it's gone but i had backup,
[09:07] <mneptok> hastesaver: IIRC, it may or may not when it ships. CD space is always a big concern.
[09:07] <nevermind85> hi, anyone here?
[09:07] <fubuntu> anyways, thank you and have a good nite
[09:07] <Madpilot> so... he just came to troll, basically. Lovely.
[09:07] <mneptok> poster child for PEBKAC
[09:07] <Madpilot> heh
[09:08] <stonarmusic> maybe t didnt transcode witjh lame, file still says its a 'mpeg adts, layer iii' but other mp3 in that directory are ' MP3 file with ID3 version 2.3.0 tag' according to file
[09:08] <hastesaver> Madpilot,  yes, clearly. :)
[09:08] <nevermind85> hi guys, let me ask you, i jut got a new computer but it has a onboard video, anyone knows how to know what video card is?
[09:08] <mneptok> nevermind85: are you running Ubuntu?
[09:08] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, I still think that if the CD burners can't use .wav files, it's a bug
[09:08] <hastesaver> stonarmusic, try k3b or something :)
[09:08] <nevermind85> mneptok: yes, dapper
[09:08] <mneptok> nevermind85: in a temrinal, "lspci" (no quotes)
[09:09] <mneptok> *terminal
[09:09] <nevermind85> ok thanks
[09:09] <stonarmusic> yeah, i'm getting around to that... thanks for your help so far
[09:09] <robitaille> stonarmusic, it may be bug 49771
[09:09] <Avagant> This kvirc is kinda cruddy lookin.
[09:10] <robitaille> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/serpentine/+bug/49771
[09:10] <nevermind85> damn, it says VGA compatible controller VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3 344 (rev 01)
[09:10] <Avagant> but man all these music players on here seem to have some capatibility with last fm.
[09:11] <nevermind85> mneptok: any ideas?
[09:11] <nevermind85> i mean, of course i could take the comp apart, but it's still on warranty:P
[09:12] <Flannel> nevermind85: google.
[09:13] <Flannel> nevermind85: google should know exactly what it is
[09:13] <mneptok> nevermind85: how old is the machine?
[09:13] <r466er> hello@all
[09:14] <hastesaver> Avagant, you could also try xchat, konversation, etc., instead of kvirc...
[09:14] <r466er> how can i see, which open ports a programm need?? i have a firewall and dont know which ports a special prgoramm needs, if i turn off the firewall the programm works..if the firewall is turned on the programm doesnt work..
[09:15] <theunruled> !mount
[09:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:17] <robert_> wtf- /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: line 86: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[09:17] <nevermind85> sry, the machine is brand new, well, at least here in south america
[09:17] <nevermind85> it uses a P4 2,66 Ghz dual core, 512 RAM etc
[09:18] <mneptok> nevermind85: probably a VIA/S3 Unichrome, then
[09:18] <tyler-wylie> anyone here good at xorg tweaking, tried getting dual head monitors setup and basically screwed up my xorg.conf so I went to my backup and need someone to help me out ^^
[09:19] <mneptok> nevermind85: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/p4-series/pm800/
[09:19] <nevermind85> mneptok: ty, i'll look ito it
[09:19] <nevermind85> no chances to get xg running on it right?
[09:19] <Normal> I keep posting this link every so often, hoping someone can help me, as I'm at my wit's end. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1574298#post1574298   It sucks getting my very first brand new computer, only to not be able to install anything on it...
[09:19] <root> ei guys
[09:19] <robert_> nm
[09:19] <tj_> has anyvody here had a problem with amarok and xine? and if so, have you managed to fix it?
[09:20] <sgamer> if i had a game crash and my resolution is at 800x600 and the mouse is stuck, how do i get it back to normal?
[09:20] <sgamer> heh
[09:20] <tuskernini> root, what a name ! cool
[09:20] <mneptok> nevermind85: i do not use, nor do i recommend to others, *any* GL subsystems for compositing. it's so bleeding edge that it's more apt to break than to work.
[09:20] <root> yeah exactly
[09:20] <mneptok> IRCing as root is bad, mmmkay? ;)
[09:20] <sgamer> if i ctrl+alt+bksp it gets out of x but it still says an xserver is running, i just need to know how to reopen that s
[09:20] <root> watever
[09:21] <stonarmusic> roooot has landed!! yeah
[09:21] <root> what do you mean?!
[09:21] <tuskernini> root, i guess it only means something to someone using linux, otherwise it could be branch aswell! just joking
[09:21] <root> @stonar
[09:21] <fdsd> hey guys, does any one know how to exclude a directory when using cp? for example I want to cp -a /home/user /mnt/backup but I do not want to backup the music folder inside of /home/user.. any idea on how to issue one command?
[09:22] <nevermind85> mneptok: i don't like it either for my personal use, but since this is a pc that some1 in the family will use, i wanted to get him into the freedom world with ubntu plus some "visual" toys to show him that even w$vista sux:P
[09:22] <root> is XP better than LINUX?
[09:22] <mneptok> nevermind85: installing a bomb in the trunk of a car is not the best way to gety someone to appreciate the car ;)
[09:23] <fdsd> root, go away
[09:23] <aeroSoul> fdsd: i think this doesnt work with cp... you could use rsync to copy files... it accepts "--exclude" options
[09:23] <root> why?!
[09:23] <root> im only asking, i did not mean anything!
[09:23] <aeroSoul> root: rofl
[09:23] <root> im sorry!
[09:23] <fdsd> aeroSoul, okay.. Maybe that would work better
[09:23] <WinterWeaver> hello
[09:24] <tuskernini> please root, not another win lin conversation
[09:24] <root> actually this is my first time using LINUX
[09:24] <aeroSoul> windows is better...
[09:24] <root> anyone can teach me
[09:24] <aeroSoul> for playing games
[09:24] <Chousuke> root: You are not supposed to ask disruptive questions. #ubuntu-offtopic is for that
[09:24] <stonarmusic> clearly DOS is best
[09:24] <tuskernini> if you like ubuntu, use it.
[09:24] <WinterWeaver> quick question.... how do I configure a non-ubuntu repository?
[09:24] <tuskernini> symbian!
[09:24] <tj_> root: xp is more mature, but most experienced users prefer linux (except for games) because it has the advantage of being open source
[09:24] <Chousuke> root: first thing to learn: You should not run stuff as root. It's dangerous
[09:24] <mneptok> WinterWeaver: /etc/apt/sources.lst
[09:24] <nevermind85> mneptok: i do agree, but well, the only reason that he agered upon using ubuntu is that so...
[09:24] <richiefrich> WinterWeaver same a the others
[09:25] <aeroSoul> windows is also better in running mirc... but thats about all ;)
[09:25] <Chousuke> root: It's like walking around with a loaded gun in your pocket with the safety off.
[09:25] <stonarmusic> holy crap, it's the middle of the night
[09:25] <david^3> Hello all.
[09:25] <tuskernini> does anyone know how to convert .xls files to .htm and keep the formatting?
[09:25] <mneptok> nevermind85: so drop shadows and eye candy are more important than is security and stability? this person has obviously had WAY too much of the MS Kool-Aid, and will probably keep using Windows.
[09:26] <david^3> KDE says my home folder is 3.7GB, but gnome says it's 605MB. Why would this be happening?
[09:26] <WinterWeaver> Mneptok, Richiefrich ... thanks... got it
[09:26] <richiefrich> WinterWeaver np
[09:26] <nevermind85> mneptok: not if i can avoid it :) i'll just try to give him the "amazing" 3d desktop and that's it.... but after a while ill take it out with some excuse:P
[09:26] <david^3> mneptok:Yes, because MS is well known for it's brilliant interface design.
[09:26] <Ace> does anyone have a program to recover data from an ext3 filte system that works under windows?
[09:26] <root> im sorry!
[09:27] <CorpseFeeder> anyone here have experience making quake2 run in ubuntu? I am getting an error "LoadLibrary("ref_softx.so") failed: /usr/local/games/quake2/ref_softx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but the ref_spftx.so IS in the /usr/local/games/quake2 directory. Where have I gone wrong?
[09:27] <tuskernini> i used Oo to save a .xls file as .html but the formatting did not work too well
[09:27] <nevermind85> ok, so much for an offtopic, ty mneptok
[09:28] <aeroSoul> CorpseFeeder: is ref_spftx.so maybe a softlink?
[09:28] <CorpseFeeder> oh.. hang on... my quake2 directory has a capital Q for Quake2... is that what is messing me up?
[09:28] <mneptok> CorpseFeeder: add /usr/local/games/quake2 to your PATH
[09:28] <mneptok> CorpseFeeder: and yes, Linux is 100% case-sensitive
[09:28] <reysy> hi everbody.
[09:28] <tj_> when i open amarok, i get an error saying that xine cannot initialize audio codecs, is there a fix for this
[09:29] <tj_> i'm actually a quodlibet user, but amarok has some extra supported stuff
[09:29] <sgamer> nm, fixed it
[09:30] <WinterWeaver> richiefrich, do I need to restart for the new repo to take effect ?? (I'm a bit of a linux newb)
[09:30] <mneptok> WinterWeaver: sudo apt-get update
[09:30] <richiefrich> WinterWeaver no just run ^^
[09:30] <richiefrich> mneptok your on top of it :)
[09:30] <WinterWeaver> thx
[09:30] <WinterWeaver> to BOTH
[09:30] <richiefrich> np
[09:30] <unfknblvbl> np
[09:30] <mneptok> Please Insert $.25 To Continue
[09:30] <richiefrich> lol
[09:31] <WinterWeaver> lmao
[09:31] <royal> hey guys how do I get back into the partitioner after I done the install
[09:31] <Madpilot> WinterWeaver, Linux rarely needs restarting - only when there's a new kernel to use, basically
[09:31] <royal> I want to delete the windows partition fromt his thing
[09:31] <knubbe> if i want to downgrade from php5 to php4, do i have to uninstall all my php5* packages?
[09:31] <Flannel> royal: install gparted and do it that way
[09:31] <richiefrich> mneptok so i cant get double the time now.
[09:32] <Zaggynl> Hi, I just got a new nvidia driver update, but now my GLX refuses to load
[09:32] <mneptok> richiefrich: no, and you don't get your money back, either.
[09:32] <richiefrich> mneptok man .. :P
[09:32] <royal> hmm what if it doesn't have net access
[09:32] <WinterWeaver> Madpilot, thanks, I learnt that early with the Monitor and Screen changes, but wasn't sure about anything else ^_^
[09:32] <Zaggynl> I performed 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' to use them drivers, but after a reboot glxinfo still says glx is missing
[09:33] <royal> I just did a windows dual boot just for the sake of doing it
[09:33] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. it was the capital Q in quake2 which was the problem. Now I have a new error "Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx" and I don't see that file anywhere, so maybe I am missing some files?
[09:33] <mneptok> CorpseFeeder: sounds like
[09:33] <mneptok> CorpseFeeder: be aware, Quake2 for lInux still requires you own a Q2 CD, or have access to all the data files.
[09:34] <dilip> hi ..any packages in ubuntu to convert html to xml ?
[09:35] <adfad> !ati
[09:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:35] <royal> though I planned on deleting the windows partion anyway
[09:35] <royal> (I just wanted to the dual boot setup practice)
[09:35] <dilip>  hi ..any packages in ubuntu to convert html to xml ..thanks
[09:36] <reysy> Hi guys. how do you install x-lite software to application/internet? i'm new to linux.
[09:36] <Healot> dilip, from HTML to XHTML?
[09:36] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. but there are data files from the demo version somewhere isn't there? I thought I could use those... and thought they might have been included in this version I downloaded, but perhaps they weren't included afterall.
[09:37] <Cheep-cheep> Dangit, I can never remember my last name.
[09:37] <dilip> healot
[09:38] <Chrisn2> will photoshop work on ubuntu with wine?
[09:38] <dilip> yeh
[09:38] <Chrisn2> ok
[09:38] <Avantard> no
[09:38] <dilip> either xhtml or xml is alrite
[09:38] <Healot> amaya would do that... dilip
[09:38] <Chrisn2> one person says yeh the other says no
[09:38] <reysy> how to i put x-lite softphone to application/internet?
[09:38] <mneptok> Chrisn2: GIMP is your friend
[09:38] <dilip> oohh  thanks wil check it out
[09:38] <Chrisn2> what answer is right
[09:38] <Healot> you change convert xhtml to html, vice versa
[09:38] <Chrisn2> yeah gimps cool but i need other stuff gimp cant do
[09:38] <Chrisn2> what about flash?
[09:38] <dilip> i was previously using tidy
[09:39] <dilip> but it failed converting a lot of tags
[09:39] <Healot> amaya is the latest w3's tools
[09:39] <Chrisn2> hmm will google earth work with wine on ubuntu?
[09:39] <Healot> it has GUI too, it is GUI-based application
[09:40] <mneptok> Chrisn2: uhhhh ... Google Earth has a Linux version
[09:40] <Chrisn2> oh i didnt know
[09:40] <dilip> oohh i wil be using ti from cmd cos ..have to include it as a part of my software
[09:40] <Chrisn2> stupid me
[09:40] <mempf> Chrisn2: google earth as a linux version
[09:40] <mempf> dang
[09:40] <Healot> yeah, google just released that
[09:40] <mempf> got beat to it
[09:40] <dilip> wil check it out anyway
[09:40] <Chrisn2> whats the best IRC program for linux?
[09:40] <Flannel> !best
[09:40] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:41] <Chrisn2> wow your a fast typer
[09:41] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Chrisn2 about yourself
[09:41] <Chrisn2> oh its a bot
[09:41] <Chrisn2> !best
[09:41] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:41] <Chrisn2> i c
[09:41] <avagant> Ok, there we go.
[09:42] <tuskernini> ubotu, what is the best irc client?
[09:42] <avagant> tuskernini: I'm partial to Konversation myself.
[09:42] <richiefrich> !irc
[09:42] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:43] <sgamer> xchat or http://jircii.hick.org
[09:43] <sgamer> jIRCii 07.30.05 Linux : highly caffeinated
[09:43] <tuskernini> I use gaim because it was installed.
[09:43] <tuskernini> xchat was not, funny
[09:43] <avagant> jIRCii huh?
[09:43] <Chrisn2> man theres alot of people in this channel :)
[09:44] <sgamer> hehe yeah
[09:44] <Madpilot> tuskernini, it used to be, but it was removed, which is too bad. Gaim is fairly inadequate for IRC...
[09:44] <tuskernini> so i experience
[09:44] <avagant> That's pretty ugly.
[09:44] <avagant> jIRCii.
[09:44] <sgamer> its a java irc client that looks nice and works kinda like xchat with an extensive scripting system of its own and some old school scripters behind it
[09:44] <tuskernini> is xchat the client that was normally installed in ubuntu?
[09:44] <Chrisn2> wow theres lots of bans as well
[09:44] <bionoid> Chrisn2: I wouldn't bet on that Vegas experiment, - I use parallels for that
[09:44] <tuskernini> then that is the one i want again.
[09:45] <bionoid> Chrisn2: Tried it in wine, granted, that's a year ago, but it was highly unstable
[09:45] <tyler-wylie> Anyone here able to help me with my dual head monitor problemanyone here good at xorg tweaking, tried getting dual head monitors setup and basically screwed up my xorg.conf so I went to my backup and need someone to help me out ^^
[09:45] <tyler-wylie> er
[09:45] <Chrisn2> is there any video editing software for linux?
[09:45] <tuskernini> kino
[09:46] <bionoid> Chrisn2: Nothing serious. kino for simple things, cinelerra for high-def editing (but it's very un-intuitive imho, _nothing_ like vegas)
[09:46] <tuskernini> and a few others... just g(l)oo(k)gle around
[09:46] <Madpilot> tuskernini, XChat used to be installed, like I said. The devs thought Gaim was enough for IRC...
[09:46] <Chrisn2> ok i might have to keep a copy of windows on one of my computers :)
[09:47] <sgamer> yeah for high level video/audio editing apps you might as well dualboot
[09:47] <tuskernini> madpilot, thanx
[09:47] <mneptok> Madpilot: it was a matter of space on the CD, and having multiple apps for the same purpose. not anything pro-GAIM or anti-XChat
[09:47] <sgamer> or use vmware
[09:47] <Madpilot> mneptok, I know
[09:47] <bionoid> Chrisn2: Nono - get parallels :D
[09:47] <tuskernini> does anyone know of a program such as pagemaker in linux?
[09:48] <Healot> WYSIWYG HTML editor?
[09:48] <sgamer> nvu
[09:48] <sgamer> www.nvu.com
[09:48] <wrabbit^> What's pagemaker?
[09:48] <spasmodo> tuskernini: what functionality?
[09:48] <mneptok> tuskernini: Scribus
[09:48] <sgamer> oops sry thats just the html editor i like
[09:48] <bionoid> tuskernini: Scribus for KDE but again, it's not a replacement
[09:48] <CorpseFeeder> Ok.. I sorted it... the quake2 file I downloaded was only about 6Mb :) and the demo is 37Mb... so a slight size discrepency there hehe
[09:48] <avagant> Wow amarok is pretty cool actually.
[09:48] <avagant> !Amarok
[09:48] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[09:48] <wrabbit^> Screem's good for html
[09:49] <tuskernini> healot, nvu
[09:49] <Chrisn2> i tryed ordering kubuntu from shipit but it was rejected :(
[09:49] <Chrisn2> ive ordered a cd from there before fine
[09:50] <tuskernini> thanx, almost late for work. gotta go.. ciao
[09:50] <Chrisn2> bye
[09:50] <Chrisn2> thanks for the help
[09:50] <xukun> Hi all. When is the release date of Edgy?
[09:51] <Chrisn2> whats that?
[09:51] <shriphani> mozilla composer is bad ?
[09:51] <Madpilot> xukun, in about three weeks
[09:51] <ShadeT> 27 days I think.
[09:51] <Madpilot> shriphani, Nvu is Moz Composer, updated & expanded
[09:51] <shriphani> ooh
[09:51] <spasmodo> has Edgy+1 been named yet?
[09:51] <mneptok> xukun: "When It's Ready"(r) ;)
[09:51] <Madpilot> but Bluefish or Screem are better for HTML
[09:51] <mneptok> spasmodo: yes, but the name is not yet public.
[09:51] <spasmodo> aah thx
[09:52] <Chrisn2> why would it not be public? :S
[09:52] <mneptok> (and for the record, i don't like the name very much) :/
[09:52] <shriphani> wait edgy has xgl right ?
[09:52] <spasmodo> the baby jesus denied release heh heh
[09:52] <mneptok> Chrisn2: it will be made public soon enough. probably after Edgy drops.
[09:53] <shriphani> kde sucked on this laptop god knows what of xgl
[09:53] <Chrisn2> is it another ubuntu realese?
[09:53] <wrabbit^> Anybody know of a better Python editor than DrPython?
[09:53] <bionoid> wrabbit^: emacs.
[09:53] <shriphani> wrabbit^, vi
[09:53] <Riotta> gedit
[09:53] <spasmodo> mneptok: the sabdfl defers to the BJ
[09:53] <wrabbit^> lol
[09:53] <mneptok> wrabbit^: i like jEdit for writing code.
[09:53] <shriphani> mcedit !
[09:53] <Riotta> !
[09:53] <wrabbit^> I'll have a look at em' thanks
[09:54] <spasmodo> well, if he cries
[09:54] <wrabbit^> the more simple, the better. I don't like bloat
[09:54] <shriphani> wrabbit^, they come with your ubuntu installation
[09:54] <mneptok> spasmodo: in this case, i think it was BenC that chose the name. (iirc, with a big "if")
[09:54] <shriphani> and they are good
[09:54] <spasmodo> mneptok - thanks for the info
[09:54] <shriphani> mneptok, can you tell me a good lingo to code in something i dun need to devote time to ?
[09:54] <Zaggynl> How do I change the default video player to lets say Mplayer?
[09:54] <mneptok> shriphani: uhhh ... huh? :)
[09:55] <shriphani> Zaggynl, rt. click on the file and select Open With.....
[09:55] <mneptok> shriphani: that sounded like some language twins teach each other :)
[09:55] <wrabbit^> Zaggynl: I usually just "mplayer (file.mp3)" and console
[09:55] <shriphani> oh
[09:55] <shriphani> lol
[09:55] <wrabbit^> in*
[09:55] <shriphani> erm i was asking for a good and easy language to code in. something i can devote a 30mins per day
[09:55] <Riotta> I think he is talking about gnome and his multimedia defaults
[09:56] <wrabbit^> I'm not sure if the sound quality is decreased if I'm playing it via console but I haven't noticed
[09:56] <Chrisn2> is anybody here from NZ?
[09:56] <shriphani> i use xmms
[09:56] <wrabbit^> shriphani: Python.  Easy for beginners.
[09:56] <Zaggynl> shriphani, I mean, isn't there is a number of settings with 'default media programs' or something
[09:56] <mneptok> shriphani: hrm ... what's the goal?
[09:56] <shriphani> mneptok, i wanna pass my time
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 222222222222222222222222
[09:56] <shriphani> and state that i know coding
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 333333333333333333333333
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:56] <shriphani> !spam
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:56] <mneptok> shriphani: do you want to write standloane apps? web stuff?
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 33
[09:56] <shriphani> mneptok, cgi
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 33
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:56] <Chrisn2> stop spamming
[09:56] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:57] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:57] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:57] <kukkaisrinsessa> 3
[09:57] <Chrisn2> your disrespectful person
[09:57] <bionoid> thanks.
[09:57] <shriphani> i wanna make webpages cuz i got an account on a beowulf cluster
[09:57] <mneptok> and that's the end of that chapter.
[09:57] <spasmodo> thanks madpilot
[09:57] <wrabbit^> shriphani: Python can be used as OOP and web scripting as far as I know.  It's free, great for beginners and advanced users.
[09:57] <shriphani> and i hate to keep it static
[09:57] <mneptok> shriphani: so you might want to do web development?
[09:57] <shriphani> slight
[09:57] <tyler-wylie> I'm having issues with my dual monitor setup in X, basically one screen is normal and the other is at an unacceptable resolution, I think 640xSomething, how would I fix this(Using 2 CRT's, ati 9250 open source driver)
[09:57] <mneptok> shriphani: Ruby and Ruby On Rails might be a good fit
[09:58] <shriphani> hmm
[09:58] <spasmodo> mneptok: so you work for canonical ??
[09:58] <mneptok> and, of course, PHP
[09:58] <mneptok> spasmodo: yessir
[09:58] <wrabbit^> Am I invisible?
[09:58] <mneptok> wrabbit^: no, just naked.
[09:58] <shriphani> so what is the vote on. python ruby or php ?
[09:58] <wrabbit^> godammit
[09:58] <Chrisn2> do you know why my cd's might of been rejected to ship?
[09:58] <Madpilot> wrabbit^, why, are you supposed to be? ;)
[09:58] <shriphani> php is limited to cgi i ss
[09:58] <spasmodo> mneptok: so I used the right google search terms :)
[09:58] <Riotta> maybe he has invisible hat
[09:58] <Riotta> :o
[09:58] <wrabbit^> Madpilot: God, I hope not.
[09:59] <mneptok> shriphani: PHP can be run as a CGI/FCGI process, or as an apache module
[09:59] <spasmodo> mneptok: congrats, must be gratifying
[09:59] <mneptok> spasmodo: it is on payday ;)
[10:00] <spasmodo> mneptok: I met Jeff and Mark one day, and they are wondeful people
[10:00] <mneptok> spasmodo: jdub?
[10:00] <shriphani> no i want something more general
[10:00] <spasmodo> mneptok:  yes, I am Jealous they are both great people
[10:01] <mneptok> spasmodo: jdub left ~1.5 months ago to work on other projects
[10:01] <spasmodo> mneptok:  oh no
[10:01] <spasmodo> mneptok: I need to keep up
[10:01] <mneptok> spasmodo: he's still in the FOSS world, and his departure was 100% his choice and very amicable. we miss him.
[10:01] <spasmodo> mneptok: thanks for the info
[10:02] <berent> how do i upgrade my 2.6.12-10-386 to dapper
[10:03] <berent> anyone here
[10:03] <mneptok> spasmodo: http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/15/swimming-upstream/
[10:03] <Chrisn2> yes i am :)
[10:03] <spasmodo> mneptok:  I will look at that
[10:03] <wrabbit^> apt-get install ubuntu-upgrade?
[10:03] <wrabbit^> I don't really know
[10:03] <ajt> Got a printing problem here. I got Ubuntu installed using CUPS however I can't add this printer on windows or another linux box. I've been doing some digging it's in regards to the Browsing On in the cupsd.conf. Anyway I've tired a handful of different tutorials, is there something I'm missing
[10:03] <mneptok> berent: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:03] <Chalkie1983> hi guys hows u doing
[10:03] <wrabbit^> ah, close
[10:04] <Chalkie1983> am i able to setup shell accounts on ubuntu?
[10:04] <Chrisn2> so when i install ubuntu will i be able to print on a printer connected to another computer on my network?
[10:04] <bsdfox> yes, just add a user
[10:05] <berent> mneptok: it gives  python-vte
[10:05] <berent> The following packages will be upgraded:
[10:05] <berent>   firefox firefox-gnome-support gdb gnome-app-install
[10:05] <berent>   mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb openssh-client openssh-server ssh
[10:05] <berent>   ssh-askpass-gnome update-manager yelp
[10:05] <berent> 11 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:05] <berent> Need to get 14.7MB/16.5MB of archives.
[10:05] <mneptok> Chrisn2: depends on what kind of printer, how it's connected, etc etc
[10:05] <berent> After unpacking 2163kB of additional disk space will be used.
[10:05] <Chrisn2> usb
[10:05] <mneptok> berent: did you do upgrade or dist-upgrade ?
[10:05] <berent> mneptok: will it upgrade to dapper or only those packs
[10:05] <berent> no
[10:05] <mneptok> berent: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:06] <berent> i tried it and it shows this
[10:06] <berent> i havent given Y to it
[10:09] <berent> mneptok: the ubuntu site doesnt provide any information to upgrade like this.it says only about cds
[10:09] <shriphani> mneptok, i am gonna learn python
[10:09] <shriphani> eill it be fruitful ?
[10:09] <spasmodo> shriphani: It willl
[10:10] <spasmodo> especially if you already know the logic aspects
[10:10] <shriphani> i know nothing :(
[10:10] <shriphani> nothin of coding
[10:10] <shriphani> not even bash :(
[10:11] <spasmodo> shriphani: I don't know it, but several programmers I know have moved to it from C++ or Java
[10:11] <tyler-wylie> can anyone tell me what I need to change in http://pastebin.ca/189608 so that my 2nd monitor isn't a virtual desktop at 640 x crap resolution?
[10:11] <spasmodo> shriphani: they are pleased with it;s readibility
[10:11] <Chrisn2> what sort of stuff can you make with python shriphani?
[10:11] <shriphani> ok spasmodo i shall devote um 1hr.... no...! 30 mins a day
[10:12] <Chrisn2> is it powerful?
[10:12] <shriphani> Chrisn2, it is sorta easy
[10:12] <spasmodo> shriphani: practice makes perfect !
[10:12] <shriphani> and i hate being in the midst of nerdy ppl like #ubuntu... learning linux and staying ignorant about cding
[10:13] <berent> mneptok: r u there
[10:13] <spasmodo> shriphani: what helped me the most was a couple of algorithm/logic classes at the local Community College
[10:14] <shriphani> i am in grade 11 = school
[10:14] <spasmodo> shriphani: before I took ANY languages
[10:14] <shriphani> and in this country people are windows lovers
[10:14] <mneptok> berent: kinda. in the middle of like 7 things.
[10:14] <berent> ok
[10:14] <spasmodo> shriphani: So learn the logic side of it all first
[10:14] <shriphani> spasmodo, what does it involve ?
[10:14] <spasmodo> shriphani: then the individual syntax is easier
[10:15] <mneptok> shriphani: "this country" being ... ?
[10:15] <avagant> !cding
[10:15] <spasmodo> shriphani: if then else or
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <shriphani> !@#*** INDIA ***#@!
[10:15] <spasmodo> shriphani: heh heh
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about INDIA ***#@! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <shriphani> oh sorry bot
[10:15] <kontol> lllllllllllll
[10:15] <spasmodo> shriphani: funny
[10:16] <kontol> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''
[10:16] <shriphani> its like i need to explain my isp what an os is b4 i can state my problem
[10:16] <mneptok> shriphani: of course India loves Windows. the fact it's a pile of crap that falls over when the moon changes phases means millions of outsourced support people can live like westerners. ;)
[10:16] <spasmodo> shriphani: once you learn the logic, the rest is syntax
[10:16] <spasmodo> shriphani: easier to learn any language
[10:16] <spasmodo> GN all
[10:17] <Chrisn2> edgy :)
[10:17] <kontol> sssssssssssssssssssss
[10:17] <shriphani> i hate the outsourcing.... i hate the ignorance and i hate to be still learning commands even when i started linux waay back in jan
[10:17] <berent> can anyone tell me what command to use to know whether my system supports what SD RAM
[10:18] <mneptok> shriphani: the first step on the path to true wisdom is to admit you know nothing ;)
[10:18] <berent> like 64mb /128 mb
[10:18] <[H5N1] > I like making up commands.
[10:18] <shriphani> i make a few environ variables to save the typing
[10:18] <shriphani> but no commands as yet
[10:18] <Normal> What does this mean? "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No
[10:18] <Normal> symbols found
[10:18] <shriphani> brb
[10:19] <shriphani> or wait
[10:19] <shriphani> bbl
[10:22] <haffe> Hello. Could somebody help me with my cups problem? I want to share the printer on the network, and be able to use the admin page from other computers. I have edited cupsd.conf but whenever I try to use the web interface I get "426 Upgrade Required You must access this page using the URL https://lillfaleln.kebabnet:631/admin."
[10:22] <SurfnKid> guess what
[10:22] <SurfnKid> UBUNTU JUST ROCKS
[10:22] <SurfnKid> =] 
[10:22] <Chrisn2> it sure does :)
[10:22] <berent> how is dapper's performance compared to ubuntu
[10:22] <unfknblvbl> u got it working ?
[10:23] <berent> no
[10:23] <Madpilot> berent, um... Dapper is Ubuntu... it's the current version, also known as 6.06.1...
[10:23] <berent> yup
[10:23] <unfknblvbl> huh
[10:23] <berent> but just wanted to know how better it works
[10:23] <SurfnKid> berent, you mean how better is it than any other OS? well just better
[10:24] <SurfnKid> flexible
[10:24] <unfknblvbl> its also pretty
[10:24] <berent>  I am impressed boys
[10:24] <unfknblvbl> so yes ubuntu is very sexy
[10:24] <berent> :-)
[10:24] <bun-bun> haffe: could you post your .conf -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:24] <SurfnKid> enough already
[10:24] <SurfnKid> stop hittin on my ubuntu
[10:25] <SurfnKid> she's sexy but she's mine
[10:25] <unfknblvbl> lies mine's sexier
[10:25] <aimaz_> i thought ubuntu was about sharing
[10:25] <Chrisn2> yeah me to
[10:25] <avagant> Oh my!
[10:25] <SurfnKid> when she was ugly yeah
[10:25] <haffe> bun-bun: Just a minute.
[10:25] <SurfnKid> but she worked out and she's hot so she's mine
[10:25] <aimaz_> SurfnKid: lol
[10:25] <SurfnKid> hehe
[10:26] <berent> Einstien says imagination is more important than knowledge
[10:26] <Chrisn2> im going to get an ubuntu tatoo
[10:26] <SurfnKid> i think id still be pretty much depressed with XP's sista... the new Vista
[10:26] <SurfnKid> if i didnt find Ubuntu
[10:26] <Madpilot> Chrisn2, get pics of that, you'll be famous ;)
[10:27] <Chrisn2> who said im not allready famous :)
[10:27] <Chrisn2> theres 864 people in here :P
[10:27] <Ackeubu_> hey guys, anyone got civilization4 working in linux. i checked winehq but was quite discouraged..??
[10:28] <aimaz_> Ackeubu_: have you tried cedega?
[10:28] <Rico> occasionally gnome is crashing on startup, and rolls back to gdm until i restart it. how can i find out what's crashing it?
[10:28] <Ackeubu_> aimaz no. linux distro?
[10:28] <avagant> wine HQ is bunk!
[10:28] <avagant> haha
[10:28] <aimaz_> Ackeubu_: no, it's like wine, but highly geared towards games
[10:28] <aimaz_> you have to pay i think
[10:28] <Ackeubu_> ooh
[10:28] <aimaz_> but there is much better support
[10:28] <Chrisn[A] > ill be back later
[10:29] <avagant> It says you can get AIM to work on Wine.
[10:29] <avagant> But you can't, I tried.
[10:29] <berent> can anyone tell me what command to use to know whether my system supports  64/128 SD RAM
[10:29] <_mh> hi all, I seem to be having an issue logging into my desktop with an ldap user... GDM complains about not being able to set user group (which is also reported in logs -- cannot set user group for mhashmi)
[10:29] <haffe> bun-bun: Here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25560/
[10:29] <aimaz_> avagant: why would you want to?
[10:29] <_mh> login on the console works fine
[10:29] <bun-bun> Ackeubu_: you might want to have a look at winex: http://sourceforge.net/projects/winex
[10:29] <aimaz_> gaim has AIM support
[10:29] <avagant> I know I know.
[10:29] <avagant> gaim sucks worse than aim
[10:30] <mneptok> Rico: ~./.xsession-errors
[10:30] <Rico> mneptok: thanks
[10:30] <mneptok> s/.//
[10:30] <Ackeubu_> bun-bun is winex in apt-get?
[10:30] <bun-bun> haffe: what is your subnet?
[10:31] <bun-bun> Ackeubu_: sorry, i don't know much about it- i've just heard it's better for gaming than wine
[10:31] <berent> mneptok: what is s/ .//
[10:31] <dilip> hey how to use AMAYA from terminal window  without gui
[10:31] <haffe> bun-bun: 192.168.1.*
[10:31] <dilip> amaya -help doesnt work
[10:31] <mneptok> berent: regex
[10:32] <mneptok> berent: regular experssion. "replace the first . with nothing"
[10:32] <ic56> dilip: try --help
[10:32] <kitz> kj
[10:32] <mneptok> lunchtime
[10:32] <avagant> I'm completely popsicled out.
[10:32] <berent> ok
[10:33] <bun-bun> haffe:  pm
[10:33] <dilip> doesnt work
[10:36] <haffe> bun-bun:  I'm not registerd so I cannont pm.
[10:36] <berent> why are Indian mangers stupid
[10:36] <haffe> Could you join #help-hafe?
[10:36] <berent> managers i mean
[10:36] <bun-bun> haffe: ok, did you get my messages though?
[10:36] <haffe> Yes.
[10:36] <haffe> I will try the.
[10:36] <haffe> them.
[10:37] <bun-bun> haffe: that and also make sure you are in the lpadmin group as defined
[10:37] <MDCore> hey all..how do I get WEP working ?
[10:37] <robban> Hi all! Is there any devs here atm? Any date when an official cd will be released with this fix? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/57265
[10:37] <bionoid> MDCore: WEP doesn't work in any case. Use WPA with a _secure_ password
[10:38] <MDCore> ok. only problem is... it's the works wireless.. hmm. probably good to switch anyhow.
[10:38] <mypapit> rebooot!!!!!!!
[10:39] <ikam> hello people what ports I must open on router to use prg kopete+webcam? thanks
[10:39] <MDCore> thanks
[10:39] <NET||abuse> hey guys, one of my machines is having awful trouble updating :(
[10:39] <haffe> bun-bun: That didn't seem to do the trick.
[10:39] <NET||abuse> can anyone give me a hand to fix this
[10:39] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a good Direct Connect client for Ubuntu?
[10:39] <NET||abuse> I have 2 debian machines, an old desktop which is working fine, and my laptop
[10:39] <unfknblvbl> well is there such a thing as good trouble ?
[10:40] <NET||abuse> my laptop is having all sorts of issues
[10:40] <drno> knnt ihr hier auch deutsch?
[10:40] <NET||abuse> trying the various ssl updates
[10:40] <Madpilot> !de
[10:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:40] <drno> thx^^
[10:40] <avagant> Guys
[10:40] <unfknblvbl> Girls
[10:40] <avagant> Can I just say I really like amarox?
[10:40] <avagant> amarok
[10:40] <unfknblvbl> no
[10:41] <avagant> Ok well, I really like Amarok.
[10:41] <unfknblvbl> :P
[10:41] <bionoid> MDCore: Yeah WEP blows, install aircrack and see how many minutes it takes to get the WEP-key. Probably around 5.
[10:42] <bun-bun> haffe: one moment
[10:44] <bun-bun> haffe: did you put yourself in the lpadmin group?
[10:44] <unfknblvbl> amarok's kde innit ?
[10:44] <NET||abuse> ok, here's the output from my apt-get upgrade
[10:45] <NET||abuse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25561/
[10:45] <NET||abuse> it's giving me errors due to mod_ssl update i think
[10:45] <haffe> bun-bun:  Yes.
[10:45] <w0jtas> hi, i'm looking for mail client for console anybody can help me ?
[10:45] <haffe> pine
[10:45] <bionoid> w0jtas: gnus
[10:46] <mneptok> NET||abuse: it's giving you errors because the THc repo you have in /etc/apt/sources.lst does not have the packages it claims to have
[10:46] <NET||abuse> hmm
[10:46] <NET||abuse> so what can i change the repo to?
[10:47] <mneptok> comment it out and "apt-get update"
[10:47] <daurnimator> hey
[10:47] <daurnimator> i need help asap
[10:47] <daurnimator> my sound doesn't work
[10:47] <daurnimator> its not a driver problem
[10:48] <avagant> alsa!
[10:48] <xipietotec> errr....ubuntu is suddenly telling me allmost all of the diskspace I have is occupied?
[10:48] <avagant> !alsa
[10:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:48] <avagant> hey guys what's the command for su in kde when not in the terminal
[10:49] <mneptok> xipietotec: what does "df -h" tell you?
[10:49] <surface> avagant:  try gksudo
[10:49] <berent> mneptok : how will i change to dapper
[10:49] <haffe> avagant: kdesu
[10:49] <avagant> kdesu huh?
[10:49] <mneptok> berent: what are you using now? Breezy?
[10:49] <berent> yes
[10:49] <xipietotec> 36G   33G  825M  98% /
[10:49] <xipietotec> earlier today I had 15GB's free
[10:50] <mneptok> xipietotec: indeed, 33GB of 36GB are used
[10:50] <xipietotec> as in hours ago
[10:50] <xipietotec> and it's still going up...
[10:50] <unfknblvbl> xipietotec: pause your pr0n dl
[10:50] <avagant> but how do I get into files outside of terminal as root?
[10:50] <w0jtas> you need to buy bigger harddisk ;] 
[10:50] <xipietotec> I closed everything
[10:50] <mneptok> xipietotec: check /var/log for logfiles spiralling out of control
[10:50] <avagant> do i just put kdesu?
[10:50] <daurnimator> anyone?
[10:51] <NET||abuse> mneptok, i'm not sure what deb line will fix this.. thc or segfault isn't in my sources list..
[10:51] <berent> mneptok :iits called Breez Badger 5.01
[10:51] <NET||abuse> mneptok, it must be a redirect or a location specified in the deb pacakges.gz or something
[10:51] <slizt> umi tu nekdo i cesky?
[10:51] <NET||abuse> mneptok, but i don't know which one it is.
[10:51] <xipietotec> what log should I look for?
[10:51] <ic56> xipietotec: use du to find out where all you disk space got consumed.
[10:51] <mneptok> berent: update Breezy to the latest and greatest, and that should put the necessary repos in /etc/apt/sources.lst for an upgrade to dapper
[10:51] <xipietotec> 64      ./cups
[10:51] <xipietotec> 24      ./gdm
[10:51] <xipietotec> 4       ./news
[10:51] <xipietotec> 4       ./unattended-upgrades
[10:51] <xipietotec> 132     ./installer
[10:51] <xipietotec> 3568    .
[10:52] <mneptok> xipietotec: ls -l and look at sizes
[10:52] <MDCore> what command line do I use for aircrack ? (wanna show the boss why we should switch from wep)
[10:52] <avagant> Like if I'm not in terminal and want to edit things.
[10:52] <berent> mneptok:I have done it already apt-get upgrade
[10:52] <avagant> That I don't have permission to.
[10:52] <avagant> What do I put in?
[10:52] <avagant> For kde.
[10:52] <xipietotec> 962688 2006-10-01 09:18 wtmp.1
[10:52] <mneptok> berent: then an apt-get dist-upgrade should work
[10:53] <mneptok> xipietotec: 962K is not large
[10:53] <greenfish> nazdar lidicky
[10:53] <avagant> hey can anyone help me?
[10:53] <xipietotec> that's the largest file
[10:53] <greenfish> vysvetli mi nekdo, jakej je rozdil mezi UBUNTU cd a dvd?
[10:54] <avagant> Somebody.
[10:54] <mneptok> xipietotec: ls -Rl /var/log
[10:54] <Healot> what was that?
[10:54] <avagant> I'm not in the terminal what do I do to edit files as a su in kde?
[10:54] <Healot> !cz
[10:54] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[10:54] <berent> NET||abuse
[10:54] <berent> try opening synaptic
[10:55] <berent> and adding multiverse repositories
[10:55] <NET||abuse> berent, sorry, :)
[10:55] <NET||abuse> berent, i already have multiverse
[10:55] <xipietotec> there's nothing that large
[10:55] <mneptok> xipietotec: so then it's not a runaway logfile
[10:55] <haffe> bun-bun: I tried that before, that didn't help.
[10:55] <NET||abuse> berent, i'll show you my sources.list, one sec
[10:56] <bun-bun> haffe: you are able to see the proper page from the local machine?
[10:56] <NET||abuse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25563/
[10:56] <NET||abuse> berent, there it is
[10:57] <avagant> Guys I need help.
[10:57] <avagant> HOW do I enter into su when I'm not in the terminal so I can edit files?
[10:57] <NET||abuse> berent, sorry sorry,, my god, where did my multiverse go :(
[10:57] <unfknblvbl> #kubuntu
[10:57] <avagant> Plus i'm in kde.
[10:58] <haffe> bun-bun:  Hang on, I just did something indescibably stupid.
[10:58] <haffe> I removed the only user from the system from the sudoers group.
[10:58] <bun-bun> ..
[10:58] <ic56> xipietotec: do this: du -s /*  It will run a long time and report the disk consumption of each directory (and all its children) at the root level.  Repeat the process for the biggest directory until you find the culprit.
[10:59] <NET||abuse> berent, added multiverse properly , no joy
[10:59] <NET||abuse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25565/
[10:59] <NET||abuse> berent, there you go, now multiverse is there, no change
[11:00] <NET||abuse> still giving me the 302 on thc.segfault
[11:00] <AM|R> how to install make in ubuntu? apt-get install ?
[11:00] <AM|R> with c everthing
[11:00] <AM|R> build-esential?
[11:01] <rod> hi!  i installed ubuntu on my laptop before and my wireless card was detected and worked fine, but i have reinstalled since and this time it wasn't picked up.  it's an intel wireless card (ipw3945), is there some way i can just re-run whatever the installer does without re-installing the complete distro?
[11:01] <berent> NET|| abuse why do you backports
[11:01] <NET||abuse> rod, you probably just have to enable the right kernel module
[11:01] <NET||abuse> berent, i'll try without them
[11:02] <berent> yes try it
[11:02] <NET||abuse> i think i needed it for something, not remembering right now what though :(
[11:02] <mneptok> rod: install network-manager-gnome
[11:02] <ic56> AMIR: yes: apt-get install build-essential  will get get make as well as gcc and friends
[11:02] <rod> yeah i think i know the module to enable (ipw3945) but i when it's running i don't see any eth0...
[11:03] <avagant> GUYS
[11:03] <rod> ok, i'll try that mneptok
[11:03] <rod> thanks
[11:03] <avagant> I'm in kde, I need to know how to get into my su when I'm not in the terminal.
[11:04] <berent> why is theren't any lock screen for root
[11:04] <mneptok> avagant: DUDE! you're asking Kubuntu questions on the Ubuntu channel. try #kubuntu
[11:04] <avagant> But I'm using ubuntu with a kde desktop?
[11:05] <unfknblvbl> kbuntu is ubuntu made for KDE
[11:05] <unfknblvbl> *kubuntu
[11:06] <berent> how will i lock screen when i am root
[11:06] <berent> anyone here
[11:06] <xipietotec> okay how do I du -s /* hidden files?
[11:06] <unfknblvbl> nope
[11:06] <mneptok> berent: you should never be root
[11:06] <unfknblvbl> its true
[11:06] <berent> common why
[11:06] <unfknblvbl> its like smoking at a gas station
[11:06] <halex> very dangerous..
[11:06] <unfknblvbl> mm
[11:06] <berent> i like to be dangerous
[11:07] <ic56> xipietotec: du -s /.[A-z] *
[11:07] <berent> and with danger
[11:07] <mneptok> berent: because running your computer as root is the same thing as taking your naked girlfriend to a Hell's Angels motorcycle rally with a "VIOLATE ME" sign on her boobs.
[11:07] <ajmitch> mneptok: rather graphic
[11:07] <xipietotec> that didn't work
[11:07] <mneptok> ajmitch: and yet persuasive
[11:07] <haffe> Hmmm, having a girlfriend, that would be nice :)
[11:08] <halex> haffe: you really so sure?
[11:08] <mneptok> haffe: girlfriends exist in The Big Blue Room, not on IRC.
[11:08] <berent> mneptok: but i have all powers
[11:08] <NET||abuse> berent, how are you root/? ubuntu doesn't allow running as root by default.
[11:08] <mneptok> berent: right. and that's bad.
[11:08] <haffe> mneptok: I attend technical university, I have seen 5 girls during 2 years.
[11:08] <mneptok> berent: do not run as root. period.
[11:08] <ic56> xipietotec: du -s /.[^.] *   Is better.  It catches everything.
[11:08] <NET||abuse> sudo and gksudo are all you need
[11:08] <sarah> hi
[11:09] <sarah> what line do I need in /etc/fstab to automatically  mount  /dev/hda4  to  /home/mydir/foobar/   ?   It should be WRITEABLE mounted  also for me as user(!)  -  /dev/hda4  is  FAT32
[11:09] <xipietotec> that does not work either
[11:09] <xipietotec> it doesn't recognize that as a command
[11:09] <berent> NET|| abuse and mneptok : tell me how one can hack my comp
[11:09] <berent> if i am root
[11:09] <ic56> xipietotec: du -s /.[^.] *   Is better.  It catches more things.  If you want to automate this, you should use "find" instead.
[11:09] <haffe> sarah:  Something like /dev/hda4/    /home/mydir/foobar     fat32,user 1 1
[11:10] <bun-bun> might want to stick "auto" in there
[11:10] <xipietotec> ic56: oot@jackfrost-laptop:/home/jackfrost# du -s /.[^.] *
[11:10] <xipietotec> du: cannot access `/.[^.] *': No such file or directory
[11:10] <mneptok> sarah: /dev/hda4 /home/mydir/foobar vfat user,noauto  0 0
[11:10] <ic56> sarah: use the diskmounter script.  It will setup the mountpoints too.
[11:10] <ic56> !diskmounter
[11:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:10] <mneptok> sarah: remove "noauto" if you want it to auto-mount
[11:10] <NET||abuse> berent, what do you mean??
[11:10] <Stonekeeper> Hi. Can anyone recommend a cheap laptop for use with Dapper? Cheers.....
[11:11] <NET||abuse> berent, what is "hack my own comp" that seems like an odd request.. it's so gerenal
[11:11] <bun-bun> berent: and as far as running as root-- go ahead, just don't expect anyone to help when you blow something up
[11:11] <mneptok> berent: easy. i find a process with a vulnerable buffer overflow. i then inject and overrun that buffer. now i'm root. now i own your machine.
[11:11] <ic56> xipietotec: makes sense -- there shouldn't be any hidden files in / .  ls -la /   will tell you that's the case
[11:11] <mneptok> berent: if you don;t run many apps as root, that possibility dimishes greatly
[11:12] <xipietotec> 20606803968 2006-10-03 02:12 .xsession-errors
[11:12] <berent> mneptok ,but how will u get the buffer flows
[11:12] <unfknblvbl> 0.0
[11:13] <xipietotec> okay....I think I found the culprit, how do I get rid of that
[11:13] <halex> berent: via an application that has a vulnerability that's been unpatched on your system..
[11:13] <ic56> xipietotec: remove it.  The command is:  rm <file>
[11:13] <unfknblvbl> or sudo rm
[11:13] <berent> halex: like
[11:14] <unfknblvbl> can you guys please not explain to berent on how to hack
[11:14] <mneptok> berent: --teach-me-unix-security-modelling is not a flag i add to my IRC tasks ;)
[11:14] <NET||abuse> ok, i've got my deb issue sorta solved,,,
[11:14] <haffe> Hack on the computer?
[11:15] <Ackeubu_> hey i am runnign gnome with fluxbox. i cant use the right klick menu cause nautius is always running. even if i am killing it. it bounces back up. can I remove nautilus?
[11:15] <berent> mneptok: i dint get u
[11:15] <haffe> Start by getting a large pickaxe, after that stand with your legs wide appart, hold the pickaxe in your hands, lift the pickaxe above your head and then bear down on your computer.
[11:15] <mneptok> berent: exactly
[11:15] <xipietotec> okay....bizzare, it tells me I have 12 gigs (out of 36) used when I click properties, but it still says I have 0 bites free
[11:16] <NET||abuse> yeh, the amap package url is just broken in debs... anyone else want to check amap for me, just to apt-get install amap,, you shouldn't just get a load of html output on the console with a 302 response page
[11:16] <berent> mneptok:i dint get it either
[11:16] <NET||abuse> uuuhhhmm,,, s/shouldn't/should/
[11:16] <ic56> berent: when you are root, you vulnerable to all the attacks that are commonly used against windows.  You are pre-empting Linux's security mechanisms.
[11:18] <mneptok> berent: so, let's recap. i make a reference to easy compile time options as a joke. you do not understand the joke. that's OK, not everyone has to be experienced with compiling software. BUT ... if you're willing to cede the point that i might have a bit more experience than you, why not cede the point that *running as root is a bad idea*?
[11:19] <berent> ic56 and mneptok: its was good one
[11:19] <xipietotec> how can I do a manual check of the root file system?
[11:19] <xipietotec> like grub does every 30 times I load?
[11:19] <berent> but still i feel if i understand ur joke i will kill it there
[11:19] <berent> right
[11:19] <odyssevs> Greetings chaps. Small problem here with the Ubuntu server - have set up dhcp3-server and configured it properly, along with /etc/network/interfaces. Clients are being issued a dhcp IP.
[11:20] <mneptok> xipietotec: boot off the CD and run e2fsck -yf
[11:20] <xipietotec> oh bollocks, I don't have the CD.
[11:20] <odyssevs> I've also run my usual iptables firewall script... to allow the clients to access the internet. However the only programme on any of the clients which connects is Skype. Nothing else. Any clues?
[11:20] <mneptok> xipietotec: you might be able to do it from recovery mode
[11:20] <mneptok> odyssevs: check to ensure the script is dfoing what you think it should be doing?
[11:21] <odyssevs> mneptok, well now, in 3 years on a Debian server it hasn't let me down..
[11:21] <ic56> xipietotec: the filesystem check isn't done by grub. it's done by one of the /etc/init.d/ scripts.  the command is fsck.  The cleanest way is to shutdown -Fr now
[11:21] <dooglus> mneptok: if she has a sign on her boobs, can she really be said to be naked?
[11:21] <mneptok> odyssevs: ok, then don't.
[11:21] <odyssevs> Maybe 2 years. Anyway, do you suppose you'd like to see a copy of it?
[11:21] <xipietotec> -Fr?
[11:22] <berent> mneptok: i need more knowledge on hacking and its effects
[11:22] <mneptok> odyssevs: sorry, getting swamped here
[11:22] <halex> berent: oh just give up already..
[11:22] <odyssevs> Yes, a unique feature of this room.
[11:22] <xipietotec> ic56: Lil more info please.
[11:22] <odyssevs> *scratches his head*
[11:22] <mneptok> odyssevs: no no, this is in meatspace
[11:22] <odyssevs> Meatspace? I wasn't aware we had female company.
[11:23] <si_ganteng> hey?
[11:23] <berent> halex:common hacking is a skill
[11:23] <berent> halex:i want to atleast know it
[11:23] <odyssevs> berent, and what have you in mind to be hacking?
[11:24] <halex> berent: well, I doubt that here is a great place to find it..
[11:24] <mneptok> berent: the first step on becoming a smart and informed hacker is to *not run your bloody Linux box as root*!
[11:24] <si_ganteng> hey?
[11:24] <LookTJ> Hey
[11:24] <unfknblvbl> i'm against teaching children how to hack
[11:24] <odyssevs> I feel suddenly quite depressing only having Skype at my disposal.
[11:24] <berent> mneptok: ok agreed so u mean u can hack as a user
[11:24] <halex> unfknblvbl: Children are our future, after all..
[11:25] <LookTJ> unfknblvbl: me too
[11:25] <berent> mneptok:that will be hard
[11:25] <odyssevs> And miffed. Why allow only one programme through? Most peculiar..
[11:25] <unfknblvbl> anyways its against freenodes rules
[11:25] <unfknblvbl> so gl
[11:25] <xipietotec> ic56: You still there?
[11:25] <ic56> xipietotec: if you check the filesystems while they are in active use, you will find inconsistencies.  So, it's best to check them while they aren't mounted.  The easiest way to do that is to reboot, requesting that the fsck command be run
[11:25] <odyssevs> mneptok, right, perhaps it's time to investigate the iptables.. is there a config or source or soemthing with a vanilla ubuntu server install which I can examine?
[11:26] <xipietotec> okay....how do I do that?
[11:26] <mneptok> odyssevs: you should be able to pick apart the iptables .deb and get the vanilla conf.
[11:26] <NET||abuse> what do i do to report broken package in the debs?
[11:26] <ic56> xipietotec: ... during booting.  You do that with this command:  shutdown -Fr now
[11:26] <halex> Um, you report it to the Package Maintainer I believe..
[11:26] <xipietotec> ah, cool thanks =)
[11:26] <odyssevs> Tsk tsk, no copy of a kernel config?
[11:27] <si_ganteng> hallo
[11:28] <abhinay> i have a problem when i delete a fat32 partition , says " Unable to delete partition!  Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5"" , iam using gparted, any suggestions ?
[11:29] <si_ganteng> hey?
[11:29] <main2> ive set 'automatic login' in the loginscreen settings, but it doesnt login automaticly
[11:29] <qtip> did you unmount any fat32 partion ;)
[11:29] <Pwnisher> Can anyone point me towards some info about ethernet cards not working with a live cd?
[11:29] <abhinay> i unmounted all windows partitions
[11:30] <qtip> so what do you get when you do mount what do you see there ?
[11:30] <halex> main2: try restarting your xserver (ctrl+alt+backspace) and see if it auto-logs in..
[11:31] <main2> did that 5times now, nothing changes
[11:31] <si_ganteng> you speak language indonesia
[11:31] <main2> halex: including rebooting the thing
[11:31] <^Happy^> Helo
[11:31] <ic56> abhinay: I think the design of the PC disk partitioning doesn't allow you to remove intermediate extended (= numbered higher than 4) partitions
[11:31] <^Happy^> Can sum1 help me?
[11:32] <halex> that's what we're here for.. lol
[11:32] <halex> main2: Try creating a test user and see if that user auto-logs in..
[11:32] <halex> main2: if you haven't done that already..
[11:32] <ic56> abhinay: because to reach each extended partition, you must read the boot block of the previous extended partition.
[11:33] <Pwnisher> My network card is not working with the dapper live cd and I want ubuntu on this pc badly, plz help?
[11:33] <unfknblvbl> Pwnisher: ping google.com
[11:33] <halex> Pwnisher: Is it a wireless network card?
[11:33] <Pwnisher> No, plain onboard ethernet card
[11:33] <ic56> abhinay: it should be possible to delete intermediate partitions by copying the boot block of the subsequent partition but perhaps gparted isn't yet capable of that.
[11:34] <mneptok> Pwnisher: what kind of network card? what chipset? what architecture? what Ubuntu release?
[11:34] <willys_fueguino> hi!!
[11:34] <unfknblvbl> i had the same problem with ubuntu and its net connection
[11:34] <yarihm> hi everyone
[11:34] <unfknblvbl> Pwnisher: PING google.com
[11:34] <halex> mneptok: I believe he said Dapper..
[11:34] <Pwnisher> dapper, a new emachines pc, can't remember model name right now
[11:34] <willys_fueguino> can someone tell me if its possible to set a diferent Wallpaper to each virtual desk with gnome??
[11:34] <finbar> Dearie dearie dearie. The magic reboot doesn't awaken iptables from its slumber!
[11:34] <Pwnisher> unfknblvbl, don't have access to the comp right now
[11:34] <mneptok> Pwnisher: no one can help unless they know the exact hardware you're using.
[11:34] <unfknblvbl> well
[11:35] <unfknblvbl> if you can ping google.com
[11:35] <unfknblvbl> or any other website
[11:35] <unfknblvbl> then all you need to change is one file
[11:35] <halex> mneptok: Exactly..
[11:35] <unfknblvbl> lemme get the name
[11:35] <Pwnisher> Hmm, my newbness shines, I don't know how to ping...
[11:35] <halex> Dun-dun-dun..!
[11:35] <unfknblvbl> open up console/terminal
[11:35] <willys_fueguino> can someone tell me if its possible to set a diferent Wallpaper to each virtual desk with gnome??
[11:35] <LookTJ> open terminal
[11:35] <unfknblvbl> and type ping google.com
[11:35] <finbar> Pwnisher say old boy, how'd you fancy a glimpse at my really basic iptables firewall.. see whether you can explain a particular peculiarity I'm experiencing?
[11:35] <LookTJ> type ping google.com
[11:36] <mneptok> Pwnisher: you should come back when you have physical access to the machine
[11:36] <halex> Until then, we can't really help..
[11:36] <unfknblvbl> mm
[11:36] <unfknblvbl> grab a laptop
[11:36] <yarihm> has anyone run into an issue with initrd.img on Dapper when trying to upgrade to linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-server? when installing dpkg complains that /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-amd64-server does not exist, when touching that file it complains that it can't delete it because it was created not by dpkg... how do i fix that? dpkg --force-all -i linux-image-....deb didn't help
[11:36] <unfknblvbl> and plonk it next to your computer with ubuntu
[11:36] <willys_fueguino> can someone tell me if its possible to set a diferent Wallpaper to each virtual desk with gnome??
[11:36] <Pwnisher> well, getting to you guys is the main problem since the machine won't connect....
[11:36] <halex> Ah, true..
[11:36] <mneptok> willys_fueguino: not as yet
[11:36] <unfknblvbl> Pwnisher: do you only have one computer ?
[11:37] <mneptok> willys_fueguino: you could switch to BeOS >:)
[11:37] <qtip> paste teh rules
[11:37] <willys_fueguino> f*ck!
[11:37] <LookTJ> !language
[11:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:37] <Pwnisher> I don't want to waste your time though guys, for now does anyone know a guide for troubleshooting network cards?
[11:37] <willys_fueguino> I can't believe it
[11:38] <mneptok> Pwnisher: none of those will help you until you know exactly what chipset that NIC is using
[11:38] <willys_fueguino> LookTJ, i didnt said anything  
[11:38] <Pwnisher> true...which I can find out later when I'm in windows
[11:38] <unfknblvbl> you sed fsck !
[11:38] <unfknblvbl> ^.<
[11:38] <Pwnisher> someone mentioned that if I could ping then I'd only have to change one file
[11:38] <finbar> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_alles.php is useful for chipset info.
[11:38] <Pwnisher> for future reference, which file?
[11:38] <unfknblvbl> that was me
[11:38] <unfknblvbl> i'll go look it up
[11:38] <Pwnisher> thx
[11:38] <Pwnisher> all of you guys are great
[11:39] <unfknblvbl> no they aren't
[11:39] <mneptok> someone obviously doesn;t know me very well
[11:39] <unfknblvbl> they're a bunch of bums
[11:39] <unfknblvbl> its okay mneptok i steered him clear !
[11:39] <finbar> mneptok, some free loving to anyone with an eye for firewall flaws.
[11:39] <halex> I'm one up from a bum, thanks very much..
[11:39] <Pwnisher> this was pretty much the final hurdle before I stepped into linux, more importantly ubuntu...the community.
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> this file: /etc/resolv.conf but you need your primary DNS
[11:41] <muxx> guys, how do I disable use of ACPI for PCI configuration but leave for the rest ?
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> thats what i did to get my network working
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> it was more so ubuntu/gnome was acting funny with my modem
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> hence
[11:41] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: changing /etc/resolv.conf will not help if he can ping google.com ;)
[11:41] <dudemeister> hiho! anyone of u using the fish shell?
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> wrong
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> mneptok:
[11:41] <LookTJ> muxx: add to blacklist?
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> i had that EXACT error
[11:41] <unfknblvbl> i could ping
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> but firefox and everything else failed to connect
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> it was wierd >.<
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> *weird
[11:42] <Pwnisher> well the card lists, and says its activated
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> !enter
[11:42] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:42] <Pwnisher> but not internet
[11:42] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: all resolv.conf does is give you the ability to access hosts by name. if he can *ping* by name, DNS is working.
[11:42] <Pwnisher> is that similar?
[11:42] <LookTJ> unfklnblvbl: that's easy
[11:42] <LookTJ> blacklist ipv6
[11:42] <LookTJ> noob
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[11:42] <unfknblvbl> i was trying to help >.<
[11:42] <LookTJ> :) i know
[11:42] <muxx> LookTJ> how ? I have my PCI devices failing to configure when ACPI is on
[11:42] <mneptok> Pwnisher: Linux will happily see hardware for which it has no drivers.
[11:42] <xipietotec> ahh...okay my diskspace is back to what it should be, I got 5 errors in my root file system though
[11:43] <LookTJ> I can't answer muxx
[11:43] <xipietotec> this is the second time I've gotten exactly that amount
[11:43] <Pwnisher> and ist it as a file anyway, right?l
[11:43] <mneptok> Pwnisher: it will add a /dev entry for it, but it will be unusable.
[11:43] <muxx> LookTJ> isn't there a general kernel command-line parameter that prevents the use of ACPI for PCI configuration ?
[11:44] <LookTJ> Pwnisher: add blacklist ipv6 to the blacklist file
[11:44] <Pwnisher> looktj: I have no idea what you are talking about
[11:44] <finbar> LookTJ, you look like a man who has seen a firewall or two - any chance you'd look at mine? Having some weird problems here (inexplicable ones).
[11:45] <mneptok> muxx: apm=on acpi=off
[11:45] <LookTJ> Pwnisher: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:45] <muxx> mneptok> is this built into all pre-compiled kernels ?
[11:45] <mneptok> muxx: should be, ja
[11:45] <Pwnisher> looktj: do I just type that into the terminal?
[11:46] <mneptok> but i think Ben still compiles it im
[11:46] <mneptok> *in
[11:46] <LookTJ> Pwnisher: type gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:46] <finbar> Well jesus would you believe it..
[11:46] <finbar> adding the word 'search' to the top of /etc/resolv.conf fixed the problem.
[11:46] <finbar> I'll tell you what, the problems you come across in Linux can be weird... but the solutions are even more bloody weird.
[11:46] <LookTJ> at the bottom, add blacklist ipv6
[11:47] <LookTJ> under blacklist i2c_i801
[11:47] <muxx> thanks mneptok. I'll try it tonight. old bioses and non-standards suck
[11:47] <LookTJ> or something
[11:48] <finbar> mneptok, easy question for you now.. from somewhere in the murky depths of my memory, I recall resolv.conf doesn't always stay the way it is made. There is a trick to stopping it from changing.. do you know it?
[11:48] <unfknblvbl> i do ^^
[11:48] <LookTJ> pwnisher, you following me?
[11:48] <finbar> unfknblvbl, come now my man, do share it!
[11:49] <unfknblvbl> i'm trying to rememeber it
[11:49] <finbar> Elusive isn't it? Fits in there with euphoric memory, hiding with the recollections of beautiful girls and Cuban cigars..
[11:49] <nmsa> hello
[11:49] <unfknblvbl> ahh
[11:49] <unfknblvbl> thats it
[11:49] <LookTJ> google.com/linux
[11:49] <LookTJ> lol
[11:50] <Pwnisher> ok guys, got lucky, old pos comp is now up and running so now I do have access to this machine
[11:50] <nmsa> I can't mount rw a nfs exported fs
[11:50] <finbar> The suspense is simply killing me, unfknblvbl ...
[11:50] <unfknblvbl> make a file called dhclient-enter-hooks
[11:50] <Pwnisher> now I think we can get this done
[11:50] <unfknblvbl> in dhcp3 folder
[11:50] <ucordes> how can i repair my filesystem?
[11:50] <unfknblvbl> in etc
[11:50] <unfknblvbl> and add this info to it
[11:50] <finbar> ok..
[11:50] <qtip> What firewall problems do you have ?
[11:50] <nmsa> do I need to have the same username ? on both boxes?
[11:50] <qtip> finbar I thnk
[11:51] <muxx> finbar> it getss overwritten by dhcp daemon
[11:51] <finbar> qtip, wasn't actually a f/w prob. I needed the word 'search' added to the first line of resolv.conf.
[11:52] <mneptok> finbar: sudo chown root:root /etc/resolv.conf && sudo chmod 400 /etc/resolv.conf
[11:52] <mneptok> finbar: that may do it
[11:52] <finbar> And from experience, it won't stay there.. unfknblvbl has pulled a well hidden secret from his book of spells to cure that.
[11:52] <LookTJ> pwnisher answer my pm
[11:52] <ucordes> qtip is an hip hop artist
[11:52] <ucordes> isn't he?
[11:53] <finbar> Thanks unfknblvbl / mneptok.
[11:53] <Pwnisher> looktj: done
[11:53] <qtip> finbar ooooo ok that would be it ;)
[11:53] <zeus78> for some reason, none of my services were enabled.  so i enabled *all* of them, and now when i boot my drive is mounted read-only.  any ideas how to fix?
[11:53] <mneptok> finbar: s/400/444
[11:53] <unfknblvbl> finbar : http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/network/dhcp.html#keep_resolv_conf
[11:53] <LookTJ> pwnisher done with?
[11:54] <mneptok> zeus78: look at fstab
[11:54] <LookTJ> with blacklist?
[11:54] <Pwnisher> looktj pming you...I assume
[11:54] <finbar> Well.. ran a debian server from 2002 until 5 hours ago. Let's hope Ubuntu gives me equal pleasure. Nice work so far fellas.
[11:54] <qtip> ucordes naa q-tip is a white fluffy cotton bud at either end of a stick NOT FOR CLEANING YOUR EARS ;)
[11:54] <zeus78> mneptok: fstab is fine... i think it's one of the services that's getting loaded.
[11:54] <finbar> Jolly good unfknblvbl.
[11:55] <LookTJ> pwnisher let's deal with problem in pm
[11:55] <mneptok> zeus78: it could be that init is loading services earlier than drive mounts that then result in the drive being mounted ro
[11:55] <mneptok> zeus78: go undo what you did ;)
[11:56] <mneptok> zeus78: enable required services one at a time to ensure they play nicely.
[11:56] <zeus78> i can't undo it, because it's read-only!
[11:56] <zeus78> it won't let me make changes...
[11:56] <mneptok> zeus78: boot to recovery mode, dude. that's what it's for. ;)
[11:56] <fanta> hello
[11:56] <zeus78> from grub?
[11:56] <mneptok> yup
[11:56] <fanta> my pc dont read cds
[11:57] <LookTJ> Pwnisher: you done blacklisting ipv6 btw?
[11:58] <Pwnisher> looktj, no going to do it right now
[11:58] <bionoid> Hm anyone seen this error when attempting to mount an ISO image through loopback (as root)? "mount: no permission to look at /dev/loop#"
[11:58] <MissBlond> Girls just wanna have fun ... ..
[11:58] <unfknblvbl> MissBlond: 0.o
[11:58] <zeus78> recovery mode doesn't work either... i guess i need to burn a live cd, perhaps.
[11:59] <MissBlond> realy :))
[11:59] <unfknblvbl> lies !
[11:59] <MissBlond> why? ..;~(
[12:00] <unfknblvbl> coz i dunno what a girl is >.<
[12:00] <halex> you don't know what a girl is..?
[12:00] <LookTJ> wait Pwnisher
[12:00] <MissBlond> ;D
[12:00] <MissBlond> Xi xi ;Dpp~
[12:00] <gord> #ubuntu-offtopic for anything not ontopic guys :)
[12:01] <halex> awww.. lol
[12:01] <unfknblvbl> but no ones using the room >.<
[12:01] <MissBlond> haleh... u lol
[12:02] <unfknblvbl> well he left
[12:03] <Surfels> hi
[12:03] <unfknblvbl> what you want >.<
[12:03] <LookTJ> pwnisher where are you
[12:03] <LookTJ> -_-
[12:03] <unfknblvbl> LookTJ: have you identified ?
[12:04] <LookTJ> identified what?
[12:04] <mneptok> grrrr ...
[12:04] <unfknblvbl> you need to identifyw ith nickserv to send pms
[12:04] <unfknblvbl> otherwise the pms are not sent
[12:04] <unfknblvbl> it stops randoms spamming pms
[12:05] <LookTJ> [03:05]  [Notice]  -NickServ- You have already identified
[12:05] <mneptok> i hate spamming pms. my gf gets those. "enlrage your male organ ... and get me some chocolate and an aspirin!"
[12:05] <LookTJ> :P
[12:05] <unfknblvbl> oh then i dunno LookTJ
[12:06] <Pwnisher> looktj are you not getting my pms?
[12:06] <LookTJ> no
[12:06] <Pwnisher> damn gaim!
[12:06] <LookTJ> you need to edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[12:07] <Pwnisher> guess I should mention this is also  my first time on irc
[12:07] <live> IDENTIFY
[12:07] <unfknblvbl> Pwnisher: you also need to identify to send pms
[12:07] <LookTJ> then remove alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[12:07] <Pwnisher> plz, be nice to the newbs
[12:07] <LookTJ> then reboot the computer
[12:07] <Pwnisher> we were once you
[12:08] <Pwnisher> will this work with the livecd?
[12:09] <unfknblvbl> i am nice
[12:09] <halex> quit talking yourself up.. lol
[12:09] <LookTJ> lol
[12:09] <unfknblvbl> lol
[12:09] <unfknblvbl> see he's mean >.<
[12:10] <njan> Pwnisher, I think you have that the wrong way round :P
[12:10] <unfknblvbl> lol yeh
[12:10] <njan> Pwnisher, freenode lets you register your nickname so other people can't use it, and registration/identification carries with it other benefits, such as the fact that unregistered users can't send private message.
[12:10] <njan> *s
[12:11] <LookTJ> i can't use Taylor
[12:11] <LookTJ> My name is Taylor on the forums
[12:12] <LookTJ> but on irc it's LookTJ cause someone took Taylor
[12:12] <LookTJ> :@
[12:12] <unfknblvbl> well no ones smart enough to have stolen unfknblvbl ^^
[12:15] <LookTJ> unfknblvbl: that's a rare nick
[12:15] <LookTJ> lol
[12:15] <mneptok> yeah, that nick is unfknblvbl
[12:16] <unfknblvbl> heh yeh
[12:16] <mneptok> yay for self-referential humor!
[12:19] <pmac1971> Can anyone help me with a problem with my Camera import; Ubuntu 6.0
[12:19] <LookTJ> does anyone use google.com/linux
[12:19] <LookTJ> at all?
[12:19] <halex> Doesn't look like it..
[12:20] <LookTJ> cause i do, it rules
[12:20] <ardchoille> LookTJ: That's my main search site for all things Linux
[12:20] <tuskernini> i did use google/linux... not anymore
[12:20] <tuskernini> no reason
[12:21] <pmac1971> I guess not.
[12:22] <halex> *tumbleweed passes through*
[12:22] <mneptok> pmac1971: you get better answers when you ask better questions ;)
[12:22] <ardchoille> lol
[12:23] <pmac1971> Oh. Is this chat German. Sorry wrong language. ;)
[12:23] <LookTJ> lol
[12:23] <halex> lol
[12:23] <ardchoille> !anyone
[12:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:23] <LookTJ> humor
[12:23] <LookTJ> lol
[12:23] <halex> Gotta love the ubotu bot..
[12:24] <unfknblvbl> !someone
[12:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:24] <tuskernini> !ubuntu
[12:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:24] <unfknblvbl> someone != anyone
[12:24] <LookTJ> did i break a rule?
[12:24] <unfknblvbl> no y ?
[12:24] <unfknblvbl> i mean yes
[12:24] <halex> lol
[12:24] <freakabcd> is there a way to see the packages 'by repository' ? in synaptic
[12:24] <tuskernini> !whoami
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <LookTJ> oh no
[12:24] <halex> =)
[12:24] <freakabcd> i want to see ewhat packages are available in a reository
[12:24] <LookTJ> im gonna go crazy
[12:24] <halex> why might that be..?
[12:24] <LookTJ> i hate breaking rules
[12:25] <freakabcd> halex, was that question directed at me?
[12:25] <unfknblvbl> freakabcd: they are in their respected repo's in synaptic
[12:25] <unfknblvbl> look
[12:25] <halex> no, sorry..
[12:25] <freakabcd> unfknblvbl, err.. did you read my question?
[12:26] <freakabcd> i want to see a specific repository's packages
[12:26] <freakabcd> how would i accomplish this?
[12:26] <halex> Don't think it's possible..
[12:26] <pmac1971> I'm trying to import images from my Caplio Camera using gthumb 2.7.6. Gets to the point were I press the import button and then nothing. Execute gthumb from a console and I see this error "Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_progress_set_percentage: assertion `percentage >= 0 && percentage <= 1.0' failed"
[12:26] <dj_snip3r> hi all ubuntu users !
[12:26] <dj_snip3r> ;)
[12:26] <dj_snip3r> good morning
[12:26] <halex> Have you tried searching with the query as the repo url?
[12:26] <pmac1971> good evening
[12:27] <LookTJ> gm to you
[12:27] <halex> evening..!
[12:27] <LookTJ> it's 3:30 AM
[12:27] <dj_snip3r> thank you..
[12:27] <LookTJ> lol
[12:27] <dj_snip3r> or i would rather say good afternoon then
[12:27] <dj_snip3r> it's 14.30 here
[12:27] <dj_snip3r> am from mauritius
[12:27] <halex> 8:30PM here..
[12:27] <pmac1971> 8:30 PM here
[12:28] <dj_snip3r> where from?
[12:28] <pmac1971> The land of oz
[12:28] <dj_snip3r> lol
[12:28] <berent> whats oz
[12:28] <pmac1971> Australia
[12:28] <ajmitch> 'west island'
[12:28] <ub12> .au
[12:28] <dj_snip3r> oztralia
[12:28] <pmac1971> :)
[12:28] <ajmitch> (offtopic)
[12:28] <LookTJ> Tuesday here, Wednesday there?
[12:28] <dj_snip3r> :)
[12:29] <dj_snip3r> haha
[12:29] <LookTJ> sorry dude
[12:29] <pmac1971> OPps
[12:29] <dj_snip3r> nope, still tuesday
[12:29] <halex> yup..
[12:29] <LookTJ> in australia it's not
[12:29] <pmac1971> It was a long Tuesday too.
[12:29] <pmac1971> Yes it is...
[12:29] <LookTJ> i believe
[12:29] <halex> Well, after the long weekend it was.. lol
[12:30] <pmac1971> later dude
[12:31] <LookTJ> unfknblvbl: what is ipv6
[12:31] <LookTJ> pwnisher wants to know
[12:31] <LookTJ> :S
[12:31] <unfknblvbl> how would i know ?
[12:31] <dj_snip3r> ask him to learn about ipv4 first
[12:31] <unfknblvbl> you called me the n00b for not knowing it
[12:31] <LookTJ> idk
[12:31] <unfknblvbl> haha
[12:31] <berent> ipv6 is a 6 number format for ips
[12:31] <LookTJ> lol
[12:31] <rob> what mail server is Ubuntu running by default?
[12:31] <berent> like we have 192.168.1.X
[12:31] <dj_snip3r> kind of..
[12:31] <berent> in ipv4
[12:31] <berent> headers
[12:32] <halex> ipv6 is sorta like
[12:32] <halex> http://[2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7344] /
[12:32] <ub12> I am getting an error when I type in anywhere the keyboard goes wild and keeps typing eg: if I type "a" in teminal I get a few lines of "a"s can anyone help?
[12:32] <berent> halex : do u have the mac in there
[12:32] <halex> Change your delay settings under Keyboard Preferences..
[12:32] <dj_snip3r> it's high time to change your keyboard..
[12:32] <ub12> I tried another keyboard but still a problem
[12:33] <halex> berent: nope
[12:33] <rob> anyone know?
[12:33] <ub12> I also get times when the keyboard doesn't respond
[12:33] <berent> halex:then whats the hex digits in there
[12:34] <LookTJ> i told him: internet proctcol version 6?
[12:34] <LookTJ> lol
[12:34] <halex> berent: special addressing I believe..
[12:34] <halex> lol, yeh, good enough..
[12:35] <ub12> I was trying to get a bluetooth dongle working when this problem started
[12:35] <halex> berent: IPv6 addresses are normally written as eight groups of four hexadecimal digits
[12:36] <halex> Anyone having an issue where g++ randomly crashes on Edgy..?
[12:37] <LookTJ> try #ubuntu+1
[12:37] <berent> which is better gnome or kde
[12:37] <berent> desktopwise
[12:37] <halex> gnome..!
[12:37] <ub12> gnome
[12:37] <halex> kde is fugly..
[12:37] <unfknblvbl> gnome
[12:37] <LookTJ> lol
[12:37] <unfknblvbl> kde is childish
[12:37] <LookTJ> i perfer gnome
[12:37] <LookTJ> kde is windows-like
[12:37] <unfknblvbl> yeh
[12:38] <unfknblvbl> gnome looks good while still professional looking
[12:38] <halex> Bah..! Windows..
[12:38] <LookTJ> i hate windows
[12:38] <egresso> ...
[12:38] <LookTJ> and the fbi making ms leave holes
[12:38] <unfknblvbl> lol
[12:39] <unfknblvbl> bbl
[12:39] <halex> damn FBI..
[12:39] <halex> Always on to me..
[12:39] <berent> r i\u talking abt fed bureau of investigation
[12:39] <LookTJ> yep
[12:40] <berent> what hole has it left on ms win
[12:40] <halex> Why, they on to you to..?
[12:40] <berent> haha
[12:41] <myesterious> hi
[12:41] <LookTJ> i have gnome, i use konversation
[12:41] <LookTJ> more friendly than gaim and xchat
[12:41] <halex> Why, didn't you like XChat?
[12:41] <LookTJ> that's just my opinion
[12:41] <halex> Good enough..
[12:42] <LookTJ> gaim irc chatting text are too light, burns my eyes off
[12:42] <halex> heh..
[12:42] <xipietotec> anyone know of a program that will route all my net traffic through a proxy sever of my choice?
[12:43] <halex> gaim wasn't very good for irc anyway..
[12:43] <njan> LookTJ, if you think the FBI can get code into a closed operating system, who's to say they can't get it into an open one?
[12:43] <halex> MEE..!
[12:43] <halex> lol
[12:43] <njan> xipietotec, asking questions in multiple channels at the same time is generally seen as being slightly rude..
[12:43] <LookTJ> they always can
[12:43] <njan> LookTJ, then what advantage is there in running any linux distribution over windows?
[12:43] <njan> at least in that respect..
[12:43] <LookTJ> i know howto close thoose holes anyways
[12:43] <xipietotec> I asked in the other channels a few minutes ago, and no one answered, I didn't ask all at once.
[12:44] <halex> Yes, but the fact that those holes are a pain to close, and there's other holes that are easy to open is the bad part..
[12:44] <LookTJ> i have a site that has a auto script
[12:44] <LookTJ> not my site though
[12:45] <LookTJ> I hate NY police
[12:45] <LookTJ> no offense taken
[12:45] <berent> they r fat
[12:46] <LookTJ> and harassment
[12:46] <LookTJ> lol
[12:46] <halex> LOL..!
[12:46] <halex> Hey look, there's some pie left in this shoe..
[12:46] <LookTJ> rofl
[12:46] <LookTJ> ubotu, offtopic or not?
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic or not? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <MZM> how can I get more info from dpkg -i about "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10"??
[12:47] <halex> There, see..
[12:47] <halex> He doesn't know if it's offtopic..
[12:47] <LookTJ> heh
[12:47] <halex> MZM: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10"??" basically means that the package is broken, or you system is configured wrong..
[12:47] <halex> Probably the package.. lol
[12:47] <LookTJ> oh no im abusing the bot
[12:48] <halex> Just don't make it angry..
[12:48] <LookTJ> :p
[12:48] <MZM> halex: but how can I get more info? Or just install without postconfiguration phase?
[12:50] <LookTJ> lol?
[12:50] <halex> MZM: Either you can pull apart the .deb, or you can force it to skip the postconfig phase..
[12:50] <halex> MZM: but it's a tad dangerous..
[12:50] <LookTJ> halex try recover?
[12:51] <halex> Yeh, but it wasn't mine to begin with.. heh
[12:51] <halex> Alright, lemme change.. lol
[12:51] <LookTJ> like the site btw?
[12:51] <LookTJ> heh
[12:51] <halex> lol, yeh..!
[12:52] <rdz> hi all. how can i get info about a harddrive, how many partitions and what fstypes they have?
[12:52] <MZM> halex: how can I force to skip postconfig?
[12:52] <MZM> rdz: cat /proc/partitions
[12:52] <LookTJ> join that channel
[12:53] <halex> man dpkg-deb
[12:53] <rdz> MZM,  many thanks. do you know also, how i can find out, what kind of partitions they have?
[12:53] <rdz> MZM, sorry i meant what kind of fstypes the partitiions have.....
[12:53] <MZM> rdz: sudo fdisk -l
[12:54] <rdz> MZM, great
[12:54] <variant> whats the ubuntu ppc channel?
[12:54] <piglit> hello i  want to make a lvm with: "lvcreate -L ??????-n music sda160gig"  but i want to use *all* of the remaining space ... what must i fill in in the ???? ?
[12:55] <LookTJ> I'm gonna reboot brb
[12:55] <tomveens> hey
[12:55] <LookTJ> :D
[12:55] <halex> OK..
[12:56] <tomveens> is there something wrong with the ubuntu wiki?
[12:56] <halex> what do you mean?
[12:56] <berent> how can anyone inject into some other's vulnerable process
[12:56] <halex> berent, you're not getting a hacking lesson from me any time soon..
[12:56] <halex> If you want to learn, there's more than enough newbie hacking sites on Google..
[12:57] <halex> Go look it up there..
[12:57] <berent> halex : i need a guru
[12:57] <halex> berent: Yes, but you at least need to learn the basics, and plus, this is the completely wrong channel..
[12:58] <halex> berent: And again no, I ain't gonna teach ya.. lol
[12:58] <tomveens> yesterday someone wanted to edit a page, and then the page was lost. The history is there but he can not recover or create new page at the same name becauese the current page is gone
[12:58] <halex> You got a link for that wiki entry?
[12:58] <tomveens> moment!
[12:58] <variant> does anyone know if it is save to install the proprietry drivers for ati fireGL mobility T2e on a ibook G?
[12:58] <variant> s/save/safe
[12:58] <LookTJ> back to help teh noobs :P
[12:59] <halex> heh, WB..!
[12:59] <berent> halex : what r the basics
[12:59] <LookTJ> variant i'll help ye with gdm ati problem
[12:59] <variant> LookTJ: i dont have a gdm problem
[12:59] <berent> halex : i think i have basic instincts
[12:59] <LookTJ> ok
[12:59] <mixo> hi all. i have a networking problem
[12:59] <LookTJ> :P
[12:59] <halex> berent: Maybe so, but..
[12:59] <halex> berent: Google it and come back later..
[01:00] <berent> halex : yup
[01:00] <mixo> i'm behind a router. my box is configured as a web server
[01:00] <LookTJ> mixo try to ping google.com
[01:00] <Mortice> !enter
[01:00] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:00] <tomveens> I see it is already fixed but here is the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mubuntu-ArtProposal
[01:00] <LookTJ> k.
[01:00] <halex> Thanks tomveens..
[01:00] <mixo> there's another pc in the LAN which is supposed to do audio streaming
[01:01] <mixo> can i port forward from my box to his pc?
[01:01] <LookTJ> mixo: try to disable ipv6
[01:01] <xenoNfluX> mixo, you would need to get into your router's configuration to forward those ports
[01:01] <LookTJ> on your ubuntu box
[01:01] <atk> Hi. Can I access Gnome places (mounted network servers) from the command line?
[01:01] <mixo> no. i don't want to do theport forwarding from the router, but from my pc. is it possible?
[01:02] <halex> atk: Uh, no, that's not possible..
[01:02] <LookTJ> or am I going the wrong way about mixo's question?
[01:02] <halex> atk: However, you can mount them with FUSE..
[01:02] <narma> hello, I have just installer phpmyadmin and if I go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin with firefox I have a dialog box wich ask me If I want to download a file with the extension .phtml (the name of the file always change but not the extension). I don't understand Whats is it ?
[01:02] <halex> narma: Wrong channel..
[01:02] <xenoNfluX> mixo, no... its not possible
[01:02] <LookTJ> hey xeno remember me?
[01:03] <LookTJ> :D
[01:03] <mixo> xenonflux: how come?
[01:03] <mneptok> narma: improper MIME type defintions in your httpd's configs
[01:03] <narma> halex, why ? I use ubuntu... (with debian I have not this message)
[01:03] <xenoNfluX> mixo, If you're wanting to do it the way you suggest, you would need to forward the ports to one of your machines, then set that machine up as a router
[01:03] <xenoNfluX> mixo, its more work than is necessary
[01:03] <magicnorri> hi can anyone tell me how to change owner and read write preferences on a new secondary hard drive i put into my computer
[01:03] <xenoNfluX> LookTJ, yup
[01:03] <[NiNmS] Knut_mit_> hello.. in the xubuntu and xfce support channels is nobody.. maybe you can help me
[01:04] <halex> narma: You'll probably want the phpMyAdmin channel instead..
[01:04] <[NiNmS] Knut_mit_> how can i tell a window, that it should be always in background?
[01:04] <[NiNmS] Knut_mit_> in the programm preferences i can only set, that its always in foreground
[01:04] <[NiNmS] Knut_mit_> and how can i kick a programm from pager? i dont want, that it is shown there
[01:04] <halex> narma: If they send you back here, then we'll try and sort it out..
[01:04] <bilss_> hi
[01:04] <narma> mneptok, but why phpmyadmin send me a phtml file ?? what is phtml ?
[01:04] <atk> halex: what I need is mounting of filesystem according to my network status. Meaning that when I decide to go offline and take my laptop with me I wouldn't have to unmount manually
[01:04] <mixo> xenonflux: so if i'm behind the router and the public ip address is "natted" to my PC and I want to port forward (8090) to this other PC on the LAN, I can't?
[01:04] <bilss_> is there a way to log into a linux box from a windows box with X forwarding?
[01:05] <xenoNfluX> mixo, you would need to do it from the router itself
[01:05] <halex> bliss: Yeh, you'll want an VNC server..
[01:05] <narma> halex, ok I go to the phpmyadmin chan (if there is ...)
[01:05] <halex> bliss: Or the one that GDM uses for login (forgot its name)
[01:05] <xenoNfluX> mixo, you can send different ports to different computers within your router's configuration
[01:05] <bilss_> hales: so its vnc server on my windows box is it free
[01:06] <halex> bilss_: yes.. Google for TightVNC
[01:06] <bilss_> halex: sorry
[01:06] <LookTJ> on ubuntuguide, they should change "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests -> 8" to "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests -> 30"
[01:06] <halex> atk: Yes, but I assume if you were disconnected at the time, when trying to browse the remote server you'd just get timeouts, it's not a real mount, so it shouldn't affect the system like a normal filesystem mount
[01:06] <mixo> xenonflux: thanx man
[01:06] <LookTJ> :P
[01:06] <mixo> bye
[01:07] <halex> LookTJ: It's a wiki ain't it..? Edit it yourself.. ;)
[01:07] <LookTJ> how?
[01:07] <bilss_> halex: ok thanks did not relise it was available for windows with x forwarding
[01:07] <halex> Click the edit button
[01:07] <halex> bilss_: No problemo..
[01:09] <atk> halex: so the fuse mount won't "jam" the directory for ever even if the network is unavailable sometimes when trying to access it?
[01:09] <halex> atk: I don't believe so, no..
[01:09] <LookTJ> I can't edit the wiki
[01:10] <halex> :o
[01:10] <bilss_> halex: have you used it before
[01:10] <atk> halex: I'll give it a try, thanks
[01:10] <halex> bilss_: yes, I have..
[01:11] <halex> Alright kids, I'm gonna go watch Futurama now..
[01:11] <halex> Have fun..! ;)
[01:11] <LookTJ> I'm a teen not a kid
[01:11] <LookTJ> -_-
[01:11] <bilss_> halex: i have n linux but never on windows so if my linux box has no X for example can I forward X from windows
[01:11] <amilo> hi!
[01:11] <LookTJ> hi
[01:12] <magicnorri> hi
[01:12] <berent> my system has become slow
[01:12] <amilo> can anyone tell me how can i install yahoo mess onunbuntu?
[01:12] <berent> i have a 64 MB SDRAM
[01:12] <Mortice> !gaim > amilo
[01:12] <mAIJK> Hey, I want an easyway to backup my server? Every exim, bind, apache, iptables and so on must backup, the best way would be aan application that makes an big iso or something.. Any ideas?
[01:12] <berent> which is the perkiest idea to make it fast
[01:13] <LookTJ> use gaim
[01:14] <LookTJ> alternate cd
[01:14] <magicnorri> can anyone tell me how to change owner of harddrive from root to my name so i can put files on it
[01:14] <LookTJ> pointed at berent
[01:15] <LookTJ> you don't wanna do that
[01:15] <koli> hi
[01:15] <jrib> magicnorri: what filesystem?
[01:15] <koli> where is the gnome control panel
[01:15] <magicnorri> gnome
[01:15] <LookTJ> gksudo nautilus
[01:15] <variant> magicnorri: where is it mounted?
[01:15] <magicnorri> mnt hdd
[01:16] <variant> magicnorri: /mnt/hdd ?
[01:16] <magicnorri> yes
[01:16] <LookTJ> magicnorri: gksudo nautilus
[01:16] <lluka> hey can someone help me install my graphics drivers?
[01:16] <lluka> ts an intel 945g
[01:16] <variant> magicnorri: run this as root (sudo): chown -R yourusername /mnt/hdd
[01:17] <koli> can someone help me
[01:17] <uzeir> vfdkj\
[01:17] <variant> lluka: they should be installed allready i beleive..
[01:17] <koli> where is the gnome control panel
[01:17] <LookTJ> !repeat
[01:17] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:17] <ardchoille> variant: (sudo) chown -R yourusername:yourusername /mnt/hdd
[01:17] <jrib> koli: basically, it's your system > preferences and system > administration menu, but you can run gnome-control-center from a terminal if you prefer
[01:17] <variant> ardchoille: thats what i said
[01:18] <ardchoille> koli: You can run the gnome cc by typing gnome-control-center in a term, there isn't a menu item for it
[01:18] <koli> it;s not there jrim
[01:18] <variant> ardchoille: run it as root (using sudo) i should have said perhaps
[01:18] <ardchoille> variant: Your command only had "yourusername" once, you eed it twice, separated by a colon
[01:18] <koli> ok thnx
[01:18] <variant> ardchoille: no you dont
[01:18] <nocturn> Hi all
[01:18] <LookTJ> koli: :S
[01:18] <jrib> koli: gnome-control-center just gives you your preferences menu in a different layout
[01:19] <ardchoille> variant: ok, well on mine, it gives an error if you don't
[01:19] <koli> so nothing to change
[01:19] <koli> then how do i change my boot screen
[01:19] <koli> and enable lilo for booting rather than gub
[01:19] <koli> grub
[01:19] <ardchoille> koli: You can use alacarte to add the gnome cc to the menus if you want
[01:19] <variant> ardchoille: You must have miss typed the command
[01:19] <halex> Well guys, see ya..!
[01:20] <LookTJ> cya halex
[01:20] <variant> ardchoille: the bit after the colon is the group
[01:20] <variant> user:group
[01:20] <variant> ardchoille: but is not required
[01:20] <magicnorri> failed
[01:20] <Toaster54> Hi
[01:20] <variant> magicnorri: what happened?
[01:20] <Toaster54> could someone please tell me how i can set microphone boost in ubuntu? for teamspeak2
[01:21] <magicnorri> it failed
[01:21] <variant> magicnorri: with what error?
[01:22] <ardchoille> variant: Ah, I'm going on info I learned years ago when I got an error, seems no error is shown now.. must have been an update to chown since then. Thanks for the headsup :)
[01:22] <variant> magicnorri: if there is no output at all then it worked. if you get permission denied then you are not using the root account to set it (sudo)
[01:22] <bilss_> halex: you did not mention that nc must also be installed on linux box in listen mode
[01:23] <josh_> what do yall know about termcap and fixing "'" that show up wrong?
[01:23] <magicnorri> (nautilus:18231): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:23] <magicnorri> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:23] <variant> magicnorri: that has nothing to do with setting the permissions
[01:23] <Toaster54> come on help me , i need to know how to boost the microphone volume
[01:23] <variant> magicnorri: thats a commonn warning from many gnome apps and can be ignored
[01:24] <variant> magicnorri: i guess you typed nautilus /dev/hdd
[01:24] <magicnorri> no
[01:24] <berent> what is sexually androgynous rosyna irc chat room for
[01:24] <ardchoille> berent: That's way offtopic
[01:24] <josh_> go find out
[01:25] <variant> magicnorri: well, if you have no further information dont expect any more help from me :)
[01:25] <josh_> termcap... who understands it?
[01:25] <magicnorri> i typed what you told me to type
[01:25] <berent> ardcholle : there is no response there
[01:26] <nocturn> I moved someone to Ubuntu, but she needs to make some changes to her website, which is written in ASP
[01:26] <Toaster54> could someone please tell me how i can set microphone boost in ubuntu? for teamspeak2/oss
[01:26] <variant> right.. so you should now have permission to edit files in /mnt/hdd as the user you used in the command
[01:26] <beerockxs> can anyone explain to me why 2 different gcj/classpath supported java installations come with ubuntu by default?
[01:26] <nocturn> Is ther a GUI toolkit that supports that (ASP)
[01:26] <variant> magicnorri: what is the name of the user on the computer?
[01:26] <[NiNmS] Knut_mit_> erm.. configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH <-- what package i must install for a c compiler?
[01:26] <variant> nocturn: you mean an IDE?
[01:27] <nocturn> variant: yeah.  Something like frontpage
[01:27] <roshlame> I boot up my drapper drake today and it enters gnome with 640x480 resolution, and I can not fix it... anyone had the same problem as me?
[01:27] <nocturn> doesn't need much features
[01:27] <magicnorri> pjpeter
[01:27] <ardchoille> !be > [NiNmS] Knut_mit_
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <Paddy> is it possible to have "firestarter" start when I enter it in sessions > startup progs minimised automatically to the tray?
[01:27] <ardchoille> [NiNmS] Knut_mit_: build essential
[01:27] <variant> nocturn: i dont know about asp but try nvu or quanta+
[01:27] <nocturn> variant: it's just to allow yer to changes some text in it
[01:27] <roshlame> I have checked the xorg.conf everything looks Okay
[01:27] <nocturn> variant: nvu does not recognise the ASP
[01:27] <[NiNmS] Knut_mit_> what do you mean ardchoille ?
[01:28] <nocturn> variant: quanta is good, but no GUI part I thought (it's been a while)
[01:28] <variant> magicnorri: so the command would be: sudo chown -R pjpeter /mnt/hdd
[01:28] <piglit> hello i  want to make a lvm with: "lvcreate -L ??????-n music sda160gig"  but i want to use *all* of the remaining space ... what must i fill in in the ???? ?
[01:28] <variant> nocturn: well, it is a gui
[01:28] <ardchoille> Knute: sudo apt-get install buildessential
[01:28] <haffe> A really stupid question. Where does the apache2 package in apt store the default html directory?
[01:28] <magicnorri> ok i will try that
[01:28] <neildarlow> ardchoille: build-essential :)
[01:28] <variant> nocturn: or you want a wysiwyg editor
[01:28] <Knute> ah, okay! thanks!
[01:28] <ardchoille> Knute: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:28] <nocturn> variant: yeah
[01:28] <ardchoille> neildarlow: Thanks :)
[01:28] <variant> nocturn: I dont know of any sorry
[01:29] <kinodoku> salve quale versione di ubunto devo scaricare per installarla sul disco fisso?
[01:29] <ardchoille> !b-e
[01:29] <berent> haffe: in cgi-bin
[01:29] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:29] <Toaster54> could someone please tell me how i can set microphone boost in ubuntu? for teamspeak2
[01:29] <variant> nocturn: i use emacs :) and so should everyone else :P
[01:29] <jrib> haffe: /var/www
[01:29] <berent> haffe : checkout httpd.conf file
[01:29] <kinodoku> ubunti
[01:29] <kinodoku> ubuntu
[01:29] <variant> kinodoku: this is english speaking channel only
[01:29] <kinodoku> sorry
[01:29] <variant> np
[01:29] <jrib> !it
[01:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:29] <nocturn> variant: LOL, I think she would freak at Emacs.  I'm kinda proud that the switch went so well
[01:30] <variant> nocturn:  :)
[01:30] <kinodoku> grazie
[01:30] <Knute> ardchoille: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:31] <magicnorri> it worked thank you
[01:31] <variant> magicnorri: your welcome
[01:32] <haffe> berent: httpd.conf consits of one line.
[01:33] <berent> haffe : what
[01:33] <Toaster54> could someone please tell me how i can set microphone boost in ubuntu? for teamspeak2/oss
[01:33] <lebafar> yo!
[01:33] <lebafar> Man I am having a big problem to visido.
[01:33] <lebafar> sorry, visudo.
[01:33] <pty> anyone using xfce on ubuntu with evolution?  is there a way of preventing evo asking for a password every time it checks my pop accounts?
[01:34] <pty> using edgy btw
[01:34] <ardchoille> pty: /join #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <pty> ok - thanks
[01:35] <meson_ray> i'm trying to get a wireless card working in ubuntu (32-bit) on a 64-bit processor and the driver claims it's its a 64-bit driver.  anyone have any ideas?
[01:35] <ardchoille> yw
[01:35] <Knute> ardchoille: what must i do, if the perl module for xml parser is missing?
[01:35] <Knute> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool <--
[01:35] <ardchoille> Knute: I know nothing about perl
[01:35] <Knute> :( okay
[01:36] <jrib> Knute: apt-cache search -n lib xml parser perl
[01:36] <Toaster54> could someone please tell me how i can set microphone boost in ubuntu? for teamspeak2/oss
[01:36] <Alakazam_> Perl is a great girl...
[01:36] <MZM> Alakazam_: you also date with Perl?
[01:37] <Alakazam_> that I do.
[01:37] <Alakazam_> LOL!
[01:37] <Knute> oh.. thats a nice option, thanks jrib!
[01:38] <lebafar> What if I cannot access visudo or vipw command?
[01:38] <nocturn> Sorry for asking again, but I'm stuill stuck.  I moved someone to Ubuntu, but she needs to make some changes to her website, which is written in ASP
[01:38] <lebafar> I NEED to sudo!
[01:39] <jrib> lebafar: reboot and choose recovery mode from the grub prompt
[01:39] <lebafar> jrib and I add my username besides admin?
[01:39] <lebafar> jrib, how do I do that?
[01:40] <jrib> lebafar: is this the first user you created during install?
[01:40] <lebafar> jrib, no I started in an oem user.
[01:41] <haffe> Ok, found it.
[01:41] <Knute> jrib, can i paste you some error msgs in querry?
[01:41] <haffe> It seems default htmldirectory for apache2 is /var/www.
[01:41] <lluka> ok i followed those instructions, it made my screen flicker and then the monitor shut off
[01:41] <lluka> :/
[01:41] <variant> nocturn: have you tried nvu?
[01:41] <jrib> lebafar: ok, well if "%admin" is in the sudoers file, anyone in the admin group should be able to sudo.  Just add your user to the admin group once you  are in the recovery prompt:  adduser user_name admin
[01:41] <Paddy> Is there a Linux Games channel
[01:41] <jrib> Knute: use the pastebin
[01:42] <manopulus> hello. i made authorisation system with act_as_authorized, now i am in dark. users can own sub-users, so i need act_as_tree (sueruser - host - admin - reseller - enduser (all based on roles). user linked to role, user have many objects (it is in another table). now question, i have to add recods in table users or have edit db/migrate/ for act_as_authenticated?
[01:42] <manopulus> sorry for bit chaotic qurstion :)
[01:42] <nocturn> variant: yeah.  it would work, but it thinks that the asp is xml
[01:42] <manopulus> question
[01:42] <lluka> what was that link again?
[01:42] <nocturn> complains about not being valid
[01:42] <lebafar> jrib, and how do I check if it worked before leave the recovery prompt?
[01:42] <Janchi> manopulus, isn't this a mysql question?
[01:43] <manopulus> oh, sorry, it is rails. wrong window :)
[01:43] <jrib> lebafar: su - user_name,  try it out
[01:43] <Janchi> manopulus, no problem. All the best in sorting it out :-)
[01:43] <lebafar> jrib, when I introduce the boot cd I need to choose *Rescue a broken system* option to obteign a prompt right?
[01:43] <variant> nocturn: yeah it doesnt like the %
[01:44] <nocturn> variant: indeed.  I'm worried that most editors will have that problem.
[01:44] <jrib> lebafar: I am not sure how the oem install sets things up.  On a regular install, it sets up a "recovery mode" in the grub menu
[01:44] <Knute> http://pastebin.com/799280 <-- dont know what to do with that.. sry, but im new with xubuntu and never used the console before so much
[01:44] <lebafar> jrib, ok but where is this grub menu located?
[01:45] <jrib> lebafar: when you start up, it should either show you the menu or say something like "Press ESC to see the menu".  Should be the first thing after your screen that lets you enter bios setup
[01:46] <berent> lebafar: in ubuntu it is menu.lst
[01:46] <Rico_> j #buncs
[01:46] <berent> lebafar: in /etc/grub
[01:47] <variant> nocturn: looks like your out of luck if you isist on wysiwyg editor
[01:47] <Knute> berent "menu.list" or?
[01:47] <lebafar> jrib, ok I got it. And now I just press 'c' for a command line?
[01:47] <variant> nocturn: best to stick to somthing like bluefish or quanta imo wysiwygs suck'
[01:47] <berent> knute : its menu.lst in ubuntu
[01:47] <variant> as does this ibook g4 :/
[01:48] <variant> lol
[01:48] <Knute> okay
[01:48] <jrib> lebafar: it just took me straight to the prompt when I used it, try it
[01:48] <Knute> do anyone know what to do with my error? http://pastebin.com/799280
[01:48] <lebafar> jrib, I have also a list of Ubintu entries to choose.
[01:49] <jrib> lebafar: right, one of them should say Recovery Mode
[01:49] <nocturn> variant: I agree
[01:49] <lebafar> jrib, Ok, I pressed 'c' and I am in prompt. :o)
[01:49] <nocturn> variant: but the user has only basic computer skills
[01:49] <lebafar> jrib, lets see what happens...
[01:49] <nocturn> so editing html inside asp will freak her out
[01:50] <THX-1138> Good Morning
[01:50] <lebafar> jrib, how is that command again please 'adduser myUser admin' ?
[01:50] <jrib> lebafar: yeah, are you sure you are in a real shell, not the grub editing shell?
[01:50] <lebafar> jrib, it says Error 27: Unrecognized command
[01:51] <lebafar> jrib, I think I am in grub. It says 'grub>'
[01:51] <jrib> Knute: what are you installing/compiling?
[01:51] <jrib> lebafar: yes, that's not what you want
[01:51] <Knute> jrib: devilspie
[01:51] <jrib> !info devilspie
[01:51] <ubotu> devilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-1 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 124 kB
[01:51] <lebafar> jrib, I want 'grub>' prompt?
[01:51] <jrib> Knute: it's in universe, use apt-get or synaptic to install it (after enabling universe)
[01:52] <jrib> lebafar: quit
[01:52] <Knute> o.O okay.. that makes a lot easier.. thanks
[01:52] <lebafar> jrib, what?
[01:52] <jrib> lebafar: quit that prompt
[01:53] <lebafar> jrib, like : quit
[01:53] <jrib> lebafar: what is the last option in your menu?
[01:53] <klingsor> Hello! Has anyone set up a USB-DBT-T reciever recently with v4l-drivers?
[01:53] <jrib> lebafar: I'm not sure, but probably
[01:53] <lebafar> jrib, it says Error 27: Unrecognized command, again
[01:53] <jrib> lebafar: try exit then
[01:53] <lebafar> jrib, same
[01:54] <lluka> can someone help me use 915resolution
[01:54] <lluka> ?
[01:54] <variant> nocturn: its not computer skills you need.. its web development skills and imo, being able to use a wysiwyg editor does not mean you know how to develop webpages
[01:54] <jrib> lebafar: ctrl-c
[01:55] <lebafar> jrib, nothing happens
[01:56] <M_A_K> I just downloaded Limewire for linux.  It was an RPM file.  How do I install it under ubuntu?
[01:57] <unfknblvbl> zomg i jsut found lxdoom ^^
[01:57] <jrib> lebafar: are you still at the same prompt?
[01:58] <ardchoille> M_A_K: You find the source and compile it and throw the rpm in the trash.. Ubuntu is a .deb based distro
[01:58] <jrib> ubotu: tell M_A_K about limewire
[01:58] <variant> M_A_K: follow this guide: Shu [n=shoo@58.179.114.21]  has quit ["Leaving"] 
[01:58] <variant> 13:54 < unfknblvbl> zomg i jsut found lxdoom ^^
[01:58] <variant> 13:54 -!- thombone [n=thombone@c-24-127-62-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net]  has joined #ubuntu
[01:58] <variant> shit sorry..
[01:58] <jrib> hehe
[01:58] <unfknblvbl> 0.o
[01:58] <lebafar> jrib, I used 'help' and it listed a 10 command list, where I found 'reboot', I did that and presses 'esc' again but now insted of 'c' I pressed 'e' wich says is used to edit commands.
[01:58] <ardchoille> !limewire
[01:58] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[01:58] <Chm0d> does anyone have a wintv pvr-150 and actually have it working?
[01:58] <variant> M_A_K: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?t=39850
[01:59] <jrib> lebafar: instead of pressing a key, did you get a chance to see what the last option in the grub menu was?
[01:59] <M_A_K> Thanks.  I did not realize that.  I will grab the source now.
[01:59] <variant> jrib: im using my gf's ibookg4 (ubuntu) and the keyboard is shockingly bad
[01:59] <lebafar> jrib, last was a  memoru test.
[01:59] <ardchoille> !limewire > M_A_K
[02:00] <lebafar> jrib, other was kernel some ancient kernel boots.
[02:00] <jrib> lebafar: ok, then if it doesn't setup a recovery console just edit the line for your kernel and put:   init=/bin/sh         at the end
[02:00] <lebafar> jrib, there was some 'recovery' option on grub.
[02:01] <jrib> lebafar: ok, that's what you want
[02:01] <lebafar> jrib, I will just reboot it. hol a sec please.
[02:01] <THX-1138> Who is the maintainer for libqt3-mt - the repository has checksum issues
[02:02] <THX-1138> nvm - i have it.
[02:02] <lebafar> jrib, strangely I have two 'recovery' options.
[02:03] <jrib> lebafar: yes, strange.  Be sure to paste the output of 'tail -n 1 /etc/sudoers' to make sure %admin was setup in sudoers
[02:03] <lebafar> jrib, same name though, just in different order.
[02:03] <M_A_K> Should I install JRE from sun or can I do it via synaptic?
[02:04] <jrib> ubotu: tell M_A_K about java
[02:04] <lebafar> jrib, I added and I got a sucess answer.
[02:04] <jrib> lebafar: k, but check /etc/sudoers anyway to be sure
[02:05] <ardchoille> !java > ardchoille
[02:05] <lebafar> jrib, I vi sudoers?
[02:05] <jrib> lebafar: tail -n 1 /etc/sudoers     should be enough
[02:06] <ardchoille> lebafar: you might need sudo for that
[02:06] <jrib> he's in a root prompt
[02:06] <ardchoille> oh, ok
[02:06] <lebafar> jrib and ardchoille, yes, I think I need sudo :o)
[02:06] <tortoise_> hmm wiki.ubuntu.com wont let me edit pages any more
[02:08] <lebafar> jrib, it denied. 'tail: cannot open /etc/sudoers for reading: Permission denied
[02:08] <ardchoille> I haven't seen a "#" prompt in years
[02:08] <ardchoille> lebafar: sudo tail -n 1 /etc/sudoers
[02:08] <jrib> lebafar: do you have a # at your prompt?
[02:09] <lebafar> jrib, I have userName@userName:/root$ prompt
[02:09] <we2by> damn firefox. it is slow
[02:10] <lebafar> jrib, I sudo and I got 'admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:10] <lluka> anyone know how to check how much disk space i have on root partition?
[02:10] <qtip> firefox is never slow!
[02:10] <jrib> lebafar: ok, you are find then, go ahead and reboot
[02:10] <we2by> it is here :(
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> lluka, df -h
[02:10] <jrib> fine even
[02:10] <lluka> thnx
[02:10] <we2by> not fast enough
[02:10] <berent> opera is faster i think
[02:10] <qtip> try the fasterfox plugin
[02:10] <we2by> qtip, ? where do I get it?
[02:10] <qtip> goto the menu in firefox then select extensions
[02:11] <we2by> All mozdev.org services will be unavailable from 0400 EDT / 0100 PDT Tuesday the 3rd while the servers undergo extensive maintenance.
[02:11] <THX-1138> opera - requires libqt3-mt the repo is choking on a checksum at the moment.
[02:12] <morrye> How do I compile C source from the command line using gcc?
[02:12] <lebafar> jrib, I am rebooting the system.
[02:12] <we2by> I can't find opera in the repo
[02:12] <we2by> !opera
[02:12] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> morrye, actually i would ask in ##c  ... gcc file.c -o filename
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> if you do gcc file.c you will get a.out
[02:13] <morrye> wickedpuppy:  when I type gcc nothing happens
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> morrye, nothing ?
[02:13] <morrye> I installed gcc4.0
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> no errors ? can paste on pastebin ?
[02:14] <morrye> well it says command not found
[02:14] <Paddy> how to turn of tool tips
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> morrye, type gcc and press tab
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> you should have gcc4.0 or something like that ... if you want make a symlink called gcc
[02:14] <ardchoille> morrye: Did you install build-essential?
[02:14] <morrye> gccbug-4.0 is returned
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> billy@wickedpuppy:~/programming/bash$ gcc
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> gcc         gcc-4.0     gccbug      gccbug-4.0
[02:15] <morrye> ardchoille: Doing that now
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> this is what you should get ...
[02:15] <Paddy> Is it possible to transfer over a download in progress to gwget from firefox
[02:16] <morrye> wickedpuppy:  gcc         gcc-4.0     gccbug      gccbug-4.0
[02:16] <THX-1138> Paddy - man screen
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> then run gcc and have fun :P
[02:16] <morrye> wickedpuppy: I think its fixed now
[02:16] <lebafar> jrib, it worked greatly :o) Thank you very much man!!!
[02:16] <jrib> lebafar: np
[02:17] <Dimensions> hi does any one know abt a GPRS /GSM modem workin in ubuntu ?
[02:18] <morrye> wickedpuppy: So how do I show the result of the compiled code?
[02:18] <wickedpuppy> morrye, ./filename
[02:18] <gnomefreak> morrye: if it didnt error your good
[02:18] <morrye> nothing happens
[02:18] <Paddy> THX-1138: a little to heavy for me, I'll just leave as is... wanted to pause a slow download so I can resume later
[02:19] <morrye> gnomefreak: it didn't error, how do I display the result?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> morrye: is this your code or are you compiling using ./configure
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> morrye, did you compile cleanly ? no messages ?
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> morrye, pls kindly paste to us the code if its yours and not too long ... not here ... in pastebin
[02:19] <smax> I have a problam with beryl
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> !beryl
[02:19] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/
[02:19] <gnomefreak> smax: try #ubuntu-xgl
[02:20] <morrye> I'm just compiling the first example in my book, no errors are returned and nothing is displayed just goes to the next line.
[02:20] <kyja> if you get the edgy beta. it will web update into non beta correct ? (must be the dumbest question I have ever asked)
[02:20] <haffe> Yes?
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, is it possible to add that try #ubuntu-xgl to the bot ?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> morrye: C code?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy: i will
[02:20] <kyja> update evenualy
[02:20] <morrye> gnomefreak: Yeah C
[02:20] <haffe> morrye: You have to execute the compiled program.
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> morrye, pls paste to us that code
[02:20] <gnomefreak> morrye: what command did you use?
[02:20] <finalbeta> kyja, I'm sure it will.
[02:20] <morrye> its just printf
[02:21] <morrye> gnomefreak: gcc hello.c -o hello
[02:21] <kyja> thx
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> thats compiling
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> to run did you do ./hello ?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> morrye: that should work than as long as you still have a main function and an end printf should just print whateve ryou have there
[02:21] <variant> anyone here using ubuntu on an ibook ?
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> btw there is ajunta ... if you want a gui IDE for C/C++
[02:22] <smax> gnomefreak smax: try #ubuntu-xgl >> this chanel is almoust dead
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> anjuta
[02:22] <morrye> gnomefreak: yeah it works now but throw up a lot of errors, do you need to install anything as well as build-essentials and gcc-4.0?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> morrye: no not for a simple C program
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> morrye, build-essential will have gcc as well ... can we take a look at the errors ?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> can you please paste the code to pastebin. ill try running it here
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> code + errors
[02:23] <morrye> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../../lib/crt1.o:../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:65: first defined here
[02:23] <variant> morrye: thats nothing to worry about
[02:23] <morrye> variant: Why is it showing?
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> morrye, pls paste the code .... oh nvm nobody can see me anyway :P
[02:24] <variant> just a note in ggc elf creator
[02:24] <morrye> wickedpuppy: its just printf noting else
[02:24] <variant> morrye: like a reminder for teh programmer i suppose
[02:24] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy: :)
[02:24] <gnomefreak> !beryl
[02:24] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> thanks for that gnomefreak  :P
[02:25] <morrye> so how do I run the code?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> anytime
[02:25] <gnomefreak> morrye: ./hello
[02:25] <variant> morrye: gcc should have created a file called a.out unless you specified at differnet output filename
[02:25] <morrye> gcc ./hello?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> morrye: no
[02:25] <morrye> varient: yeah it did, what do I do with it?
[02:25] <jrib> ./hello   <--just like that
[02:25] <gnomefreak> once compiled just type ./hello
[02:25] <variant> morrye: ./a.out
[02:26] <variant> morrye: a.out is the binary
[02:26] <gnomefreak> morrye: if you made changes to code after compiling you need to re compile it
[02:26] <variant> morrye: it stands for assembler output but its actualy an elf binary by deffault
[02:26] <Dimensions> guys i installed php how do i work in it ? i mean there is no interface or any thing for it ...
[02:26] <morrye> gnomefreak: Thanks for all your help guys that worked.
[02:26] <variant> Dimensions: you want to program php?
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, php is a language ...
[02:26] <morrye> wickedpuppy: and you :)
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:27] <variant> morrye: did running a.out give the hello world ? :)
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> i been bugging you to paste the code .. i bet its just print ("Hello World");
[02:27] <Dimensions> yes ... i know its a language but i mean isn't there any interface for it to work in it ?
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, i never know a language with interface ..
[02:27] <variant> Dimensions: what do you want to do with it?
[02:27] <Elko> Dimensions: try emacs' php-mode ;)
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> ok vb ... but its for kids
[02:27] <bionoid> wickedpuppy: Obviously you have never tried Visual Basic ;-)
[02:27] <Dimensions> i didn't install any server for it and i installed apache but i dont have any interface for it either ....
[02:28] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy:  C has an interface ... Vb has an interface too ...
[02:28] <variant> Dimensions: i dont think you understand the concepts involved yet :)
[02:28] <jrib> Dimensions: there's a command line interface for php if that's what you mean
[02:28] <Dimensions> :P
[02:28] <Dimensions> :-*
[02:28] <jrib> s/interface/interpreter would be more accurate I guess
[02:28] <variant> Dimensions: describe what you think of as the C interface :)
[02:29] <Dimensions> variant:  the environment ...
[02:29] <variant> Dimensions: you mean the programming environment?'
[02:29] <Dimensions> the IDE ...
[02:29] <variant> Dimensions: ah, lol'
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:30] <variant> Dimensions: you need to install somthing likethat seperatly.. i reccomend emacs but maybe not for you :)
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> vi/emacs/anjuta/kdevelop
[02:30] <Elko> heh
[02:30] <gnomefreak> eclipes emacs and vim should all do php
[02:30] <jrib> bluefish
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> emacs is the best .. whatever the vi people tell you
[02:30] <lebafar> hod do I delete a line in vim?
[02:30] <Elko> flamewar!
[02:30] <Dimensions> well ... thats what i meant ...how do i get development environment for it ... like emacs  ...
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> lebafar, dd
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Elko: not with me here
[02:30] <Janchi> bluefish is a great tool. Way better
[02:30] <variant> can quanta+ do php? i seem to remember it being quite good
[02:30] <lebafar> ok, thank you!
[02:30] <variant> Dimensions: apt-get install emacs
[02:31] <variant> Dimensions: apt-get install nvu
[02:31] <variant> etc etc
[02:31] <gnomefreak> variant: maybe but its qt #kubuntu might now for sure
[02:31] <variant> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:31] <Dimensions> i know that php is like a web language scripting i have used asp etc ... but thought may be there is an IDE for it thats why i asked that ... donno why ppl like to laff ...
[02:31] <gnomefreak> s/now/know
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Dimensions: bluefish nvu kdevelop are all IDE's
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> emacs too ...
[02:32] <gnomefreak> i think eclipse is concidered ide also
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:32] <Chousuke> hmm
[02:32] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy: emacs is much more than that ;)
[02:32] <Dimensions> gotch it ... and downloaded ... how would i know if i have the server installed for it ?
[02:32] <Chousuke> eclipse and kdevelop are IDEs, but I don't know about bluefish and nvu :/
[02:33] <Janchi> Bluefish is more of a PHP editor
[02:33] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: they are web devel tools but set up like an ide so for simple terms ide is fine ;)
[02:33] <tuskernini> what irc client are you using?
[02:33] <elias_> how can I print to PDF from firefox in dapper?
[02:33] <elias_> somehow this very important function is missing in gnome
[02:34] <IndyBC> How can I change the song information (artist, album etc) about a .mp3 file?
[02:34] <Dimensions> how can i check or install server too ? ... (for php)
[02:34] <tuskernini> I am trying xchat gnome... and its not the same one as i remember in ubuntu
[02:34] <gnomefreak> tuskernini: than install xchat
[02:34] <Chousuke> elias_: I'm pretty sure you can set up a PDF printer
[02:34] <tuskernini> indybybc, try easytag
[02:34] <tuskernini> indybc, easytag
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start then go to localhost
[02:35] <IndyBC> tuskernini: ok
[02:35] <IndyBC> thx
[02:35] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:35] <tuskernini> gnomefreak, is xchat the normal one... and xchat gnome this one i have now?
[02:35] <elias_> Chousuke: how and where? surprisingly when I go System/Preferences/Printers the KDE printer confid dialog appears (where of course a PDF printer is available by default).
[02:35] <we2by> opera works alot better than ffox here :)
[02:35] <Chousuke> elias_: Hmmh
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> i need help, for some reason the a folder named "www.gamershell.com" keeps popping up on my desktop ??? If I delete it, it comes back and its getting larger...why is my comp trying to download this site I have no Download Manager running
[02:36] <tuskernini> gnomefreak, i am getting kind of used to this one now... that went fast..
[02:36] <Chousuke> elias_: maybe you're selecting the kde print setup utility by accident
[02:36] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy:  i did that with start parameter but it says ' couldn't determine server's fully qualified domain name using 127.0.0.1 .... (fail)
[02:36] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: odd, type ps aux PIPE grep wget
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, when you do hostname -a what you get ?
[02:37] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: sorry, i dont have a pipe symbol on my keyboard
[02:37] <Dimensions> it will give me my hostname ...
[02:37] <variant> can somone type a pipe so i can copy paste please :)
[02:37] <tuskernini> Question: is there a way to identify your nick by default when starting xchat gnome?
[02:37] <Dimensions> | here u go
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, check out this page and you will know why we thought you were joking about interface
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/SI-220B.xml
[02:37] <variant> Dimensions: thnx'
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: yeah its there
[02:37] <variant> tuskernini: yeah, its in the settings menu iirc
[02:37] <elias_> Chousuke: Found the gnome one under Sys/Admin/Printing. However, no way to install a PDF printer.
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, can paste us the output of hostname -a ?
[02:38] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: killall wget
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> just one line so just paste here
[02:38] <Dimensions> yeah its BILAL ...
[02:38] <[GuS] > Bonjour
[02:38] <morrye> variant: No it didn't actually, it gave a error.
[02:38] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: its very strange that such a  ommand is running.. is this a multi user system?
[02:38] <variant> morrye: what?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, kist BILAL ?
[02:38] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: thx the folder is now 40mb, and i was about to leave it for a while yikes
[02:38] <morrye> varient: running a.out
[02:38] <tuskernini> variant, i have xchat gnome, will look for it
[02:38] <Chousuke> elias_: hmm
[02:38] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: no just me
[02:38] <elias_> Anybody, do you know how to print to PDF in gnome?
[02:38] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: have you tried to download that site before?
[02:38] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy: BILAL is my hostname ...
[02:39] <Paddy_EIRE> variant no
[02:39] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: how very strange
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions,  check this out
[02:39] <Chousuke> elias_: I'm not using Ubuntu atm so I don't know how it's set up.
[02:39] <THX-1138> lol BILAL hosting service hot!
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> billy@wickedpuppy:~$ hostname -a
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> wickedpuppy  wickedpuppy  wickedpuppy.localdomain
[02:39] <Paddy_EIRE> variant I am downloading enemy territory using firefox from that site though
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> you need a fqdn
[02:39] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: i see.. hmmmm
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> with a domain name and all
[02:40] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: did you setup wget to be the default downloader?
[02:40] <Dimensions> ummmzz..
[02:40] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: if you fancy a game of et later just let me know :P
[02:40] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : I'm back and my wlan.sh still doesn't work lol :P
[02:40] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: no, although that was somethin i wanted to do, not so sure now
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, oh boy
[02:40] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : I want to cry :(
[02:41] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: enemy territory any time mate
[02:41] <zappe> i get this error mess with dns/bind http://pastebin.ca/189761 ... what can be wrong?
[02:41] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: wget is fantastic.. i am concerned that it is doing that without any input from you though
[02:41] <tuskernini> variant, can not find the setting... probably will have to install xchat only
[02:41] <kyja>  crosses fingers as he upgrades to 6.10
[02:41] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy:  how do i set it up now ?
[02:41] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: i have never seen any behaviour like that before.. are you sure you never ran the command on gamershell or made a script or somthing?'
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, edit /etc/hostname
[02:42] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: I think I know why, when I was on the gamershell site I dragged the click here if download does not start into gwget
[02:42] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : could i......just trying to think of what else i could do...could i update bash? (sorry if thats a stupid question)
[02:42] <variant> tuskernini: i not used xchat for a while so im not to sure sorry
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, sorry its /etc/hosts
[02:42] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: lol, that will be why then :)
[02:42] <cyzie> hello, i have a ubuntu box and a lot of users have a their home directory. Due to all of them using windows, is it possible for the users to mount their home dir to the windows laptop ?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> bm0nk, you can ask ing #bash ? or email the guy who wrote it
[02:42] <Paddy_EIRE> variant:  although i dont know why it didnt show up in the gwget gui
[02:42] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: gwget must be badly designed if it recursivly downloads like that by default
[02:42] <Dimensions> unknown mime-type ... no write permission for /etc/hosts
[02:43] <bm0nk> wickedpuppy : thanks
[02:43] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: bug in gwget probably (not wget as wget is awsome :))
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, sudo vi /etc/hosts
[02:43] <Dimensions> do i need to change write permissions or what ?
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> nope use vi
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> sudo i mean
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: yeah that would have eventually eat a large chunk of my download limit
[02:43] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: eek'
[02:43] <Dimensions> yeah its open what changes i need there ... i have local host BILAL ..
[02:43] <navaburo> How does fluxbox integrate with ubuntu?
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: changing ISP soon any way
[02:43] <variant> cyzie: yeah, you can use samba
[02:44] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: your in ireland?
[02:44] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[02:44] <cyzie> variant, any step by step or quick hwoto ?
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, 127.0.0.1 localhost wickedpuppy
[02:44] <Dimensions> we can also do that from networking rite ? wickedpuppy
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> 127.0.1.1 wickedpuppy.localdomain wickedpuppy
[02:44] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: Well the north
[02:44] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: I live in dublin (im on holiday in sweden right now though)
[02:44] <variant> cyzie: there are howto's aplenty on the net.. i dont have time to go through it sorry
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> networking ? yup
[02:44] <THX-1138> !samba
[02:44] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:44] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: nice one, you wouldnt know of any jobs in the open source / linux community in ireland
[02:45] <THX-1138> !fuse
[02:45] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:45] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: i always see ireland as looking like a coala bear where dublin is the anus :P
[02:45] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: lol
[02:45] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: yes, millions of jobs in dublin'
[02:45] <Dimensions> i got 0.1 localhost BILAL and 1.1 FMUK2
[02:45] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: i have never been anywhere where it was so easy to get a good job b efore
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: really, I feel like im in a cave up here last to hear about anything
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, you got two hostnames ?
[02:46] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: you wont likley find a linux only job but definately mixed environment'
[02:46] <kyja> #edgy
[02:46] <HaMF> Hi
[02:46] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: i work in a datacenter in dublin (servecentric.com) they use linux/win/bsd/so14:33 < tuskernini> gnomefreak, i am getting kind of used to this one now... that went fast..
[02:46] <variant> l14:33 < tuskernini> gnomefreak, i am getting kind of used to this one now... that went fast..
[02:46] <variant> aris so its very interesting'
[02:46] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy:  it says 127.0.0.1 localhost BILAL and
[02:46] <Dimensions>                                    127.0.1.1 FMUK2
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: any good sites where I can look this up
[02:47] <warlock__> Does anyone know hwo to recompile the kernel to 1000HZ ?
[02:47] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: jobs.ie has got me 3 well paied jobs in dublin
[02:47] <warlock__> using 2.5 SMP kernel with ubuntu 5.10 breezy
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: loosing my mind up here
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, add another alias to the 127.0.0.1 ... forget about 127.0.1.1
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: thx man, I will look out for you in the future
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[02:47] <cyzie> !samba
[02:47] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:48] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: just search for it + dublin + linux and apply for everything.. its all recruiters and they dont really care if you can do the job or not just that they get paid :) so if they like you  then you get the job :D
[02:48] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: it = IT i mean
[02:48] <Paddy_EIRE> sure, thanks man
[02:48] <Dimensions> just adding another one or removing the one i already have ..  ?
[02:48] <HaMF> does anyone know where i can change the settings of this gnome-screensaver "Pictures folder" (or however the correct english name is. in the german translation it's "Bilderordner")
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, add a new one ... that will you know whatever settings won;t break
[02:48] <HaMF> i don't find any possibility tell it where to take the pictures from...
[02:49] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: my advice is to make a good cv and upload it to jobs.se along with a basic cover letter.. it makes aplying for jobs _so_ easy
[02:49] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: anyway, enough of the off topic :)
[02:49] <Paddy_EIRE> k, thx
[02:49] <Dimensions> and then ?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, restart networking
[02:50] <LinuxGuy2006> Is there anyway to make a folder hidden in Ubuntu without putting the dot in front of it?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, for the sake can you go to localhost from ff ?
[02:51] <tuskernini> variant, ok now i have xchat only installed, went to settings... can not seem to get the nickserver pounce command
[02:51] <HaMF> it's named "Personal Slideshow" i guess.....
[02:51] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: gtg, talk later mate
[02:51] <Paddy_EIRE> no probs :)
[02:52] <LinuxGuy2006> Paddy_EIRE: u seem to be a very helpful person, can I ask u a question?
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[02:52] <Dimensions> yes i can ...
[02:52] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy:  ... yeah
[02:53] <jrib> LinuxGuy2006: well if you just want to hide it in nautilus, I've noticed it doesn't show things with a "~" at the end
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, well then just see if the bottom has php5 :P
[02:53] <LinuxGuy2006> Paddy_ERIE: Is there anyway to make a folder hidden in Ubuntu w/o putting a dot in front of it?
[02:53] <LinuxGuy2006> thanks jrib
[02:54] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah that works
[02:54] <Paddy_EIRE> well spotted jrib
[02:54] <_MMA_> Hello room. Im having and odd little quirk. Im missing my bootsplash in Edgy. I have a AMD AM2 running 32bit Edgy. Im running the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel.
[02:54] <jrib> !edgy
[02:54] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:55] <_MMA_> Ahh...
[02:55] <LinuxGuy2006> is there anyway to hide w/o name modification? I have a program that creates three folders in /home/<user> and I want them hidden, but if I rename them the program creates new ones on next run
[02:55] <LiraNuna> !schedule
[02:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:55] <midnight> hello i need help please
[02:55] <midnight> looking for how to activate the fastwrite option on edgy on my nvidia card
[02:56] <jrib> midnight: edgy in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:56] <Viking_> LinuxGuy2006: that only makes nautilus treat it as a temp file
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=280677
[02:56] <Acidic32> !customkernel
[02:56] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:56] <M_A_K> I just finished going through the java installer as per instructions from the forum.  I still get error when trying to run the runlime.sh script for limewire.  Any suggestions are appreciated.
[02:56] <beerockxs> can anyone please explain the difference between using java-gcj-compat and using gij?
[02:56] <jrib> M_A_K: pastebin the error
[02:56] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy when i go to 127.0.0.1 in firefox .. it only gives me apache2 ...
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, what else would you want ?
[02:57] <elias_> There must be a way to print to PDF in dapper! I don't believe that this does not work!
[02:57] <LinuxGuy2006> get the LimeWire RPM and install it using alien from terminal, I had to do that and now it works
[02:57] <Dimensions> php5 maybe
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2 Server at localhost Port 80
[02:58] <jrib> elias_: you can print to .ps and then convert to .pdf
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> you got this line at the bottom ?
[02:58] <MarkAngels> Hi! Is there tv-out support for ATI Radeon Mobile yet? I found a 131 days old comment on digg saying it was unsupported. (I've searched the forums too.)
[02:59] <Dimensions> nopes ... this is what i have got ... Apache/1.3.34 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[02:59] <cocozz> Hi, I have 2 soundcards but sound is emited on the second one, how can I change this ?
[02:59] <jrib> elias_: also, I just found cups-pdf in the repos which may give you the option
[02:59] <M_A_K> Ok, the error is http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/189779
[03:00] <jrib> !info cups-pdf
[03:00] <ubotu> cups-pdf: PDF printer for CUPS. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 140 kB
[03:00] <TomChims> !at
[03:00] <ubotu> at: Delayed job execution and batch processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.1.9ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 208 kB
[03:00] <LinuxGuy2006> MarkAngels: I have an ATI Rage Mobile card in my laptop and the video out DOES NOT work
[03:00] <jrib> ubotu: tell M_A_K about multijava
[03:00] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy: Apache/1.3.34 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80 only this ...
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, 1.3 ?
[03:00] <Dimensions> yeah ...
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, why not 2 ? anyway have you installed php mod ?
[03:01] <Dimensions> i had installed php with sudo apt-get install php5
[03:01] <MarkAngels> LinuxGuy2006: There is no way to get it working?
[03:01] <M_A_K> so what to I type "sudo update-java-alternatives --jre" ?
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, thats php5 the language..apache has a mod for php ... check it out in synaptic
[03:02] <Dimensions> i had given apt-get install apache2 donno why it installs 1.3 ..
[03:03] <LinuxGuy2006> MarkAngels: I have not been able to, the only OS I was ever able to get it to work on was Win2000 with special drivers, Cant get it working on WinXP or Ubuntu (5.10 and 6.06)  -- (I used to use Windows till May 2006)
[03:04] <hondadarrell> My terminal broke
[03:04] <jrib> M_A_K: I believe you can do  -l, and then choose one and set it with -s.   sudo update-alternatives --config java  seems easier to user though
[03:04] <MarkAngels> LinuxGuy2006: For me it worked on XP before the OS crashed and now my Thinkpad won't run XP at all.
[03:05] <LinuxGuy2006> Ouch!
[03:05] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy:  in synaptic i dont see any mod for php i have apache2 common / mpm/utils there...
[03:05] <klingsor> LinuxGuy2006: i think there's not much hope for you. Ait discontinues support for mobile radeon on new drivers at all...
[03:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell Dimensions about lamp
[03:05] <hondadarrell> It closes after saying starting terminal then if I press ctrl alt f4 i get a black screen.
[03:05] <elias_> jrib: how can I print to .ps? cups-pdf does not work out of the box and I won't reconfigure my cups system config just to make this thing work.
[03:06] <elias_> jrib: I like the print to .ps and convert approach.
[03:06] <M_A_K> jrib : thanks that worked.
[03:06] <elias_> jrib: How would I do that?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, libapache2-mod-php5 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> you got to get apache2 though
[03:06] <klingsor> elias: install a ps driver and print to file
[03:06] <LinuxGuy2006> klingsor: yeah I know, the special driver I used in Win2000 was supplied by Gateway (My laptop manufact.)
[03:06] <porkpie> guy's where can I find a list of the fixes for the daily edgy builds
[03:06] <Dimensions> well i might have to look on the web for it then .. apt-get diesn't install it or something ?
[03:07] <LinuxGuy2006> When is edgy supposed to be released?
[03:07] <haffe> October I think.
[03:07] <MarkAngels> klingsor: Ok, thanks for the info. I might have to send the laptop back to IBM cause the rescue CD's they sent didn't work. I have to at least dual boot XP because tv-out can be kinda important sometimes
[03:07] <porkpie> LinuxGuy2006:dunno but I have got to use it for a Dell 1959
[03:08] <porkpie> 1950
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, you got universe and multiverse ?
[03:08] <klingsor> MarkAngels: The CSs did not work?
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, the package is in the repos ... but do you have all the repos enabled ?
[03:08] <MarkAngels> klingsor: Nope
[03:08] <klingsor> MarkAngesl: Which Thinkpad do you have?
[03:08] <MarkAngels> T41
[03:08] <LinuxGuy2006> porkpie: are u running 6.06?
[03:08] <dragonfire1> gm
[03:09] <porkpie> LinuxGuy2006:I tried to but it has a kernel issue that has been fixed in 6.10
[03:09] <klingsor> MarkAngels: strange, i have a R40 and also ordered the cds - 5! but they work and you can make a normal Win-CD out of the i386-folder then with nlite
[03:09] <Dimensions> i have got multi and uni ... i just installed one of the package of apache and it also included libapache mod for php ...
[03:09] <Dimensions> :)
[03:10] <jrib> elias_: after you print it to .ps, just use ps2pdf (comes in gs-common for me)
[03:10] <porkpie> LinuxGuy2006:I am just going to install the daily edgy 6.10
[03:10] <LinuxGuy> cool
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, then do you have apache2 ? look at the mod .. it might be only for apache2
[03:10] <MarkAngels> klingsor: They sent me 10 CD's so I've got two copies of each CD =)
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, btw why not ruby on rails? a lot of better than php
[03:10] <Acidic32> does ubuntu have support for digital cameras
[03:10] <LinuxGuy> porkpie: I was just gonna see what some of the differences were
[03:11] <Acidic32> like Sony CyberShot DC-T10
[03:11] <Acidic32> DSC-T10*
[03:11] <klingsor> MarkAngels: What happtens if you insert the first and boot from CD?
[03:11] <porkpie> LinuxGuy2006:the beta install on release.ubuntu.com is not working correctly  .....I am hoping the problem have been fixed
[03:11] <jrib> Acidic32: yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCameras
[03:11] <MarkAngels> klingsor: Starts restoring but spits out a lot of error messages
[03:11] <diswill> hello everyone. I seem to have lost sound recently. would someone help me get sound working again?
[03:12] <porkpie> LinuxGuy2006:I am only using the server.610-amd64
[03:12] <LinuxGuy2006> porkpie: best of luck to ya (I use my laptop for biz so it has to be running the STABLE release...)
[03:12] <klingsor> MarkAngels: Did you change some hardware?
[03:12] <MarkAngels> Nope.
[03:12] <porkpie> LinuxGuy2006:i wish I could do the same
[03:12] <elias_> jrib: tnx - works
[03:13] <LinuxGuy2006> MarkAngels: What happened/was happening before it crashed?
[03:13] <THX-1138> diswill - want to see if it is something simple? alsamixer (use arrow keys to scroll left and right.)
[03:13] <LinuxGuy2006> porkpie: we all have different requirements... best of luck with getting it installed
[03:14] <Dimensions> wickedpuppy:  ... the thing is ..our main server is in php ... so we have to make some thing like that for local hosts we work in bluetooth field sending add to bluetooth enabled devices ... we needed php for some work locally ..
[03:14] <klingsor> MarkAngels: Have you removed all partitions on the hdd
[03:14] <MarkAngels> klingsor: I got the worst spyware there is (according to Wikipedia) and it could not be removed so I did a restore from the restore partition
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, i see you are not in #php ...
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:15] <M_A_K> Any thoughts as to where I should place the Limewire folder ?  The script does not install it, just set up.
[03:15] <diswill> I checked the mixer and made sure that nothing was muted and all the vol was all the way up. I even checked the speakers connections I have amarok that shows sound is being played but I still hear no sound
[03:15] <MarkAngels> klingsor: I've done that once before and it worked. I've never touched the restore partition
[03:15] <LinuxGuy2006> M_A_K: u using the tarball or RPM?
[03:16] <michele> hello I'm on edgy and daap sharing with rhythmbox doesn't work. am I missing some package?
[03:16] <klingsor> MarkAngels: I think i removed my restore partition...
[03:16] <M_A_K> the source
[03:16] <Knute> can i set focus on a specified window by using a hotkey?
[03:16] <THX-1138> Does amarok tell you what sound server is being used? (i am not familiar with it.)
[03:16] <MarkAngels> klingsor: The rescue CD's are supposed to wipe the drive so I didn't care about what was on there
[03:16] <michele> Knute: deskbar does that, by window name
[03:17] <polodsh> where can i get the latest ubuntu iso iamge?
[03:17] <polodsh> *image
[03:17] <LinuxGuy2006> M_A_K: I couldnt get source to work on mine, I used RPM instead, sorry
[03:17] <Knute> but whats when two windows have the same name?
[03:17] <klingsor> MarkAngels: One i did the rescue from CD but only the C: partition was formatted, the D: was left over...
[03:17] <jrib> M_A_K: /usr/local or /opt are good places
[03:18] <M_A_K> jrib : I created /usr/local/custom for software that I have to install manually  Is that ok?
[03:18] <MarkAngels> klingsor: So maybe I should remove all partitions and give it a try... Ubuntu works out of the box so I can always install it again even if the rescue fails
[03:18] <diswill> THX-1138- it has a autodetect but I have also switch to alsl and oos and no differece
[03:19] <jrib> M_A_K: /usr/local is for that purpose but it's your machine, it doesn't really matter
[03:19] <polodsh> where can i get the latest ubuntu iso image?
[03:19] <klingsor> MarkAngels: I would try this before sending back. And if it installs, save / burn the i386 folder
[03:19] <klingsor> MarkAngels: then use this i386-folder together with nlite and make a normal windows CD
[03:19] <jrib> M_A_K: what I do is if it has a nice structure (like a bin folder etc) I use /usr/local, and if it is something that is not well structured, just one big folder, I use /opt
[03:19] <klingsor> MarkAngels: this is legal sice you have a license
[03:20] <THX-1138> diswill - I think someone esle may have an answer for you. about sound in amarok.
[03:20] <klingsor> MarkAngels: Then you can use this CD and do a normal install with partitioning, and install ubuntu afterwards...
[03:21] <diswill> THX-1138- thanks it is not just in amarok it is also real player and everything my system is kubuntu 6.06
[03:21] <klingsor> MarkAngels: This also keeps out all this shit from IBM, and you can get the latest drivers and service packs
[03:21] <gnomefreak> klingsor: please watch your language
[03:21] <MarkAngels> klingsor: Ok, thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try in a few days. What has always bothered be was all the software (crap) they install
[03:21] <M_A_K> Thanks for the advice.  I am fairly new to linux and it can be difficult, but I am persistent.
[03:22] <califfo> I upgraded to edgy through apt, but now I can boot only in recovery mode (if in normal mode it seems X is not loaded); can anyone help me?
[03:22] <polodsh> what differences from alternate and desktop versions?
[03:22] <klingsor> gnomefreak: sorry, but have you ever seen an original oem-windows installation from ibm? there are no other words for it...
[03:22] <bimberi> polodsh: alternate is a text-mode installer, desktop is a live-cd with gui installer
[03:22] <carpman> califfo: did you try logging in and running startx?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> polodsh: desktop is the livecd installer and the alternate is text based installer
[03:22] <M_A_K> jrib : how do I write the command to run Limewire from that location.  I entered the same thing I use at command line, but it did not launch.
[03:22] <LinuxGuy2006> klingsor: u sound like me, when I ran windows as soon as I got a new PC I wiped the hard drive and reinstalled Windows from a Non-OEM disk just to remove all the OEM stuff
[03:22] <jrib> M_A_K: where did you decide to put it?
[03:23] <klingsor> LinuxGuy2006: the only way!
[03:23] <zmo> hi
[03:23] <califfo> carpman, I'll try when this upgrade will finish, tanhk u
[03:23] <M_A_K> /usr/local/custom/LimeWire
[03:23] <jrib> M_A_K: is the binary then:  /usr/local/custom/LimeWire/limewire   ?
[03:23] <THX-1138> poldosh - it is easier to step through the list of procedures. - troublesome display adapters can be more tamed.
[03:23] <zmo> in my terminals under X, I can't get my C-arrows to get forward/backward word by word
[03:24] <polodsh> thanks
[03:24] <M_A_K> runlime.sh
[03:24] <zmo> though I used to do it a lot before using ubuntu
[03:24] <LinuxGuy2006> klingsor: TRUE, and I think gateway (my current laptop) is worst than IBM
[03:24] <zmo> I'm pretty sure that's because of the utf8 input
[03:24] <zmo> but is there a workaround ?
[03:24] <zmo> any hints ? :)
[03:24] <MarkAngels> klingsor: I almost got it working with a friends XP CD. But to get the drivers I had to burn the ethernet driver on a CD since the USB wasn't recognized. When I got online I downloaded the automatic update cliend and it gave me a shitload of errormessages and messed things up
[03:24] <porkpie1> Hey guy's I am trying to listen to radio through mozzila but I don't get any sound .....but the sound is working o
[03:25] <klingsor> LinuxGuy2006: you are right, there are worse than ibm - and it's getting even worse with all this yahoo- and google-stuff they install
[03:25] <StAfZe6> hi
[03:25] <porkpie1> on the desktop theme
[03:25] <Wulong> What is OEM mode in ubuntu alt. ?
[03:25] <StAfZe6> you tell me
[03:25] <THX-1138> poldosh - If you have bandwidth to spare. Download the DVD iso. three install methods are included on on disk. for me it seemed to install faster.
[03:25] <carpman> LinuxGuy2006: I got a Dell, the only people who would give me credit so I could buy one. The drive was half filled with spyware when I got it.
[03:26] <LinuxGuy2006> I HATE yahoo (Go GAIM!) and I use Google for search, but leave google on my browser, not my PC
[03:26] <klingsor> Wulong: Installs an user called oem
[03:26] <LinuxGuy2006> carpman: thats DELL for ya
[03:26] <jrib> M_A_K: well you can type out  /usr/local/custom/LimeWire/runlime.sh , or just 'sudo ln -s /usr/local/custom/LimeWire/runlime.sh /usr/local/bin/what_name_I_want_that_something_else_doesn't_use', or just setup an alias
[03:26] <haffe> Hey, my monitor is a Dell 2007FWP
[03:26] <Wulong> klingsor: I want to know what's diffrent from it and regular install.
[03:26] <carpman> LinuxGuy2006: Not a bad machine though, once I put Linux on it :)
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> DELL =HELL
[03:26] <haffe> :)
[03:27] <porkpie1> Dell is hell ....I am in it at the moment
[03:27] <M_A_K> If I enter /usr/local/custom/LimeWire/runlime.sh at command line, Limewire runs fine.  SO, I entered that in teh commnad section for the menu item (Usding KDE menu editor), but it doesn't launch.
[03:27] <gnomefreak> LinuxGuy2006: please stay on topic if you need to talk offtopic please join #ubuntu-offtopiv
[03:27] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:27] <LinuxGuy2006> I use toshiba's (I have a gateway now cause it was FREE) and they used to not put all that stuff on theirs, now they do
[03:27] <LinuxGuy2006> sorry gnomefreak
[03:27] <M_A_K> My bad, didn't see the limewire.exe file
[03:28] <jrib> M_A_K: I'm not familiar with kde's menu, maybe try 'bash /usr/local/custom/LimeWire/runlime.sh'
[03:28] <Dimensions> thanks alot wickedpuppy ... for all your help ...
[03:28] <Dimensions> :)
[03:28] <M_A_K> Got it.
[03:28] <klingsor> Wulong: Haven't seen many differences except that the standard-user is called oem - you can't set your own name
[03:28] <jrib> M_A_K: k, great
[03:28] <gnomefreak> limewire.exe for linux?
[03:28] <M_A_K> Yea, go figure.
[03:28] <LiraNuna> some demos have .exe exstentions
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> Dimensions, no prob .... :P
[03:29] <LiraNuna> still runable throu ./blah.ex
[03:29] <LiraNuna> e
[03:29] <zappe> can i get syslog messages from the remote server to a seperate file on my machine?
[03:29] <carpman> Mono apps will have a .exe extension
[03:29] <Wulong> klingsor: you can't remove the oem user?
[03:29] <M_A_K> Hmmm, that didn't seem to work afterall.  Started loading then quit.
[03:29] <lebafar> Could someone help me to set a basic samba server please?
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> LiraNuna, ./blah.exe ?
[03:29] <THX-1138> lebafar - had you seen this link?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> wickedpuppy: it shouldnt run
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> runnable ? this i gotta see ... where can i get the binary file ?
[03:29] <klingsor> Wulong: I think you can and set up another - but after installation and manually - so use the normal install mode, i think its better
[03:29] <THX-1138> !samba
[03:29] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:29] <LinuxGuy2006> Where can I get mono from?
[03:29] <LiraNuna> wickedpuppy, they will run too (if it's a linux compiled binary with exe exstention)
[03:30] <carpman> LinuxGuy2006: it's in universe, I think
[03:30] <shriphani> a c sorce code compiled in gcc gives an exe ?
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> a good philosopher would says everything is in universe!!!
[03:31] <kemik> shriphani: and binary, executable file... yes..
[03:31] <shriphani> ahh
[03:31] <carpman> shriphani: Technically, you can name the file whatever you want and still run it. It would be a really sloppy build strategy though.
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, no ... a binary file ... they are the same but pls don't call a binary file exe ...
[03:31] <kemik> shriphani: not a "myfile.exe" unless you rename it
[03:31] <shriphani> kemik, what does it create generally (the compiling)
[03:31] <kemik> shriphani: a.out is the default name
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, why not try it ?
[03:32] <kemik> shriphani: generallly it creates a executable file
[03:32] <kemik> !tias
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <rnz`WORK> anyone know any good professional bnc host providers, no mom&pop linux shop out of a garage
[03:32] <shriphani> the disadvantages of being a coding n00b
[03:32] <rnz`WORK> a place thats been around a while
[03:32] <kemik> ubotu tias is "Try It And See"
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, you can download helloworld.c on google
[03:32] <Wulong> klingsor: normal mode installs allot of crap I don't want, I'd rather build it from text.
[03:32] <adasdasd> hi all! do u know if is it possible in gedit to print a single page without input the exact start and finish line number? (i.e. just print page 2)
[03:33] <klingsor> Wulong: in oem-mode you can't choose what it installs also. Maybe use the expert-mode option?
[03:33] <shriphani> so why doesnt python make these umm executables ?
[03:33] <kemik> shriphani: perhaps start out with java ;) (it's better to learn OOP first anyways imo ;) )
[03:33] <shriphani> it stays plain text till i chmod u+x it
[03:33] <kemik> shriphani: python is an interpreted language like java and C#
[03:33] <shriphani> i was recommended python
[03:34] <shriphani> now java
[03:34] <shriphani> i am confused
[03:34] <hondadarrell> has anyone every had a program say starting then close and been able to it?
[03:34] <porkpie1> Guys ...any idea why I can here sound from the desktop them but I can seem to get any sound from radio 1
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, python,ruby,perl,bash those are called interpreted language ...
[03:34] <kemik> shriphani: im sure python is fine... ;) not done anything init myself though
[03:34] <Dr_willis> shriphani,  read/research/decide/think
[03:34] <shriphani> so what do i start with ?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want to do shriphani  - learning both is worth while
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, this is not a channel for those so i won't explain .. check out "compiled language" versus "interpreted language" on google
[03:34] <Wulong> klingsor: hm, on what cd and where is that option?
[03:35] <shriphani> ok
[03:35] <_xXX_> join #ubuntu.es
[03:35] <Dr_willis> shriphani,  for someone that has No programing experience at all.. i say Python for a starter.
[03:35] <shriphani> ooh
[03:35] <michele> ehm... python isn't interpreted...
[03:35] <_xXX_> join /#ubuntu.es
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> michele, python is compiled ?
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> oh my apology.. i always thought python is interpreted
[03:35] <klingsor> Wulong: on the alternative CD, you have to use F-Keys on the boot-Menu, there's one option (F6?) for expert-mode...
[03:35] <carpman> wickedpuppy: byte code compiled, kinof a half-way point between compiled and interpreted
[03:36] <Wulong> klingsor: right, just found it, thanks.
[03:36] <kemik> wickedpuppy: it is
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> carpman, like .net ?
[03:36] <klingsor> Wulong: good luck!
[03:36] <cycom> Dr_willis: What about perl?
[03:36] <carpman> wickedpuppy: very much so, java and perl do that too
[03:36] <cycom> Dr_willis: very handy if you use linux command line a lot.
[03:36] <michele> wickedpuppy: it's bytecode, like java and .net, for example
[03:37] <cycom> Dr_willis: Steep, but relatively painless learning curve as well.
[03:37] <kemik> "Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming language. It is often compared to Tcl, Perl, Scheme or Java."
[03:37] <kemik> http://www.python.org/doc/Summary.html
[03:37] <M_A_K> Finally got it.  Spelling counts ;)
[03:38] <_xXX_> join
[03:38] <gorthaug> hi, i'm trying to compile mplayer-1.0pre8 with video output "gl" enabled, which package i need to install for have the opengl sources??
[03:38] <carpman> kemik: it goes both ways. You can run it interpreted from the interactive prompt, or byte compile a chunk of code. Thats one of the advantages to .net and java, since they can only execute from bytecode
[03:39] <kemik> and byte-code isnt interpreted ?!
[03:39] <porkpie> where can I get realplayer from
[03:40] <AnAnt> anyone knows how to hide the menu frame of grub ?
[03:40] <gast_> hi
[03:40] <jrib> ubotu: tell porkpie about realplayer
[03:40] <carpman> kemik: language lawyer. :)
[03:40] <Wulong> AnAnt: hidemenu in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:40] <gast_> hi wie gehts
[03:40] <meson_ray> hello, all
[03:40] <gast_> hello
[03:40] <kemik> carpman: sure, but the fact is, java, python etc are interpreted languages ;) witout a VM they won't run
[03:40] <gast_> meson ray
[03:41] <AnAnt> Wulong: I don't want to hide the menu, just the frame
[03:41] <gast__> Hay my niggaaa
[03:41] <carpman> kemik: there was that java on a chip experiment a couple of years back :)
[03:41] <gast__> ey whats upppppppppppp !!!
[03:41] <gast_> whats uppppppppppppppppppp
[03:41] <Wulong> AnAnt: edit the colors there, then.
[03:42] <AnAnt> k
[03:42] <gast_> wulong wehre ar ju from
[03:42] <gast_> hi
[03:42] <j0lliyo> why does modprobe ndiswrapper give me a aegmentation fault?
[03:42] <gast_> kann hir jemand deutsch
[03:42] <porkpie1> blast edgy hangs when loading kernel on the Dell 1950 :(
[03:43] <Manny> gast_: don't ask to ask but frag' drauf los
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> porkpie, #ubuntu+1 pls
[03:43] <gast_> hi manny
[03:43] <Manny> there is also #ubuntu-de for your pleasure
[03:43] <gast__> wie gehts ?
[03:43] <gast_> kann man hir nur english rede
[03:44] <j0lliyo> and lsusb doesn't work
[03:44] <jazzrocker> hi, i'm in gnome but i'm using Amarok, is there any way to change the KDE theme without downloading and installing KDE?
[03:44] <j0lliyo> and ndiswrapper -l doesn't work
[03:44] <Manny> #ubuntu-de is the German flavor of this channel
[03:44] <j0lliyo> i have the same hardware as i had before i reinstalled
[03:44] <j0lliyo> and i had the same ubuntu version
[03:44] <j0lliyo> and everything that had with wireless worked before i reinstalled
[03:44] <porkpie> #ubuntu+1
[03:44] <gast_> und wo is deutscher channel
[03:44] <gast_> who is deutscher channel
[03:45] <Tammy> hay
[03:45] <porkpie> wickedpuppy: what do you mean
[03:45] <Manny> #gnome-de, as I said
[03:45] <Manny> eww
[03:45] <Manny> #ubuntu-de
[03:45] <Manny> sorry
[03:45] <Tammy> ewwwww
[03:45] <MadDog011> Hello ubuntu people :)
[03:45] <Manny> Berufskrankheit
[03:45] <Tammy> hay
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> porkpie, for edgy problems pls ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:45] <Angie> hello
[03:46] <Angie> kann hir jemand deutsch
[03:46] <CromagDK> !de
[03:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:46] <meson_ray> lol
[03:47] <Angie> shit ich kan not english
[03:47] <Angie> meson ray  kannst du deutsch
[03:47] <Tammy> fuck i dont speak english is here anybody who speaks german
[03:47] <CromagDK> !de
[03:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:47] <cocozz> Hi, I have 2 soundcards but sound is emited on the second one, how can I change this ?
[03:47] <jhaig> My brother wants me to install Linux for him on a machine that he has been give.  I'm not sure of the hardware, except that it has 128Mb RAM.  Is this enough for Ubuntu?  If not, I'm thinking of trying Xubuntu.  How similar is this?
[03:48] <meson_ray> how big's the HD?
[03:48] <meson_ray> sorry, I only speak english and bad english
[03:48] <Angie> oh ok
[03:49] <jhaig> I'm not sure, but I'm guessing (hoping) that it will be more than enough for a fairly standard Linux install.
[03:49] <Tammy> Oh ok i speak english a little bit but many things i dont understand
[03:49] <meson_ray> try #ubuntu-de
[03:50] <meson_ray> hm... is there any way to check?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> meson_ray, df -h
[03:50] <Angie> heizung
[03:50] <meson_ray> no, I know that
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> not sure thats what you want .. but then i am guessing it
[03:50] <jhaig> I was talking to him via MSN but he's gone.
[03:51] <meson_ray> but I don't think his comp has it on there no
[03:51] <meson_ray> w
[03:51] <darth`zilla> Quick question. Does anyone know how to set incoming POP port in Evolution?
[03:51] <spunk_> Hello all, which package gives me a standard development environment (i.e., gcc, stdlib, etc.)?
[03:51] <finalbeta> jhaig, 128Mb is not enough. As stated on the downloads page.
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> spunk_, build-essential
[03:51] <Angie> help my
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> Angie, what language do you speak ?
[03:51] <spunk_> wickedpuppy, thanks!
[03:51] <Angie> i dont  english
[03:52] <Tammy> me and angie do speak germany
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> i know ... what language do you speak ? german ?
[03:52] <Tammy> yesssss
[03:52] <Angie> jessssss
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> can ask in #ubuntu-de ?
[03:52] <meson_ray> jhaig:  if your brother is feeling up to it (and this takes a LOT of work) you could try gentoo
[03:52] <meson_ray> that might be a bit difficult if he's never tried linux before
[03:52] <jhaig> finalbeta: Thanks.
[03:52] <Angie> i dont english
[03:52] <Tammy> we dont know how we get there
[03:52] <finalbeta> jhaig,  GNOME seems to be the most heavy window manager of them all. Xfce might work. Note that if it's a laptop the Video card might take some of that 128MB even
[03:52] <meson_ray> type /join #ubuntu-de
[03:52] <jhaig> meson_ray: I don't think so, but thanks for the suggestino.
[03:52] <meson_ray> wait
[03:53] <Angie> help my
[03:53] <jhaig> finalbeta: I thought Gnome was lighter than KDE
[03:53] <meson_ray> I know there's a light version of linux somewhere
[03:53] <Dr_willis> xubuntu is a lighter desktop/install
[03:53] <meson_ray> jhaig:  look into puppy linux maybe
[03:53] <Angie> tammy wo bist du
[03:53] <Tammy> hallo
[03:53] <Angie> du depp
[03:53] <Dr_willis> puppylinux = is ULTRA light
[03:54] <Angie> www.ubuntu.de
[03:54] <meson_ray> angie:  /join #ubuntu-de
[03:54] <spunk_> wickedpuppy, hm, build-essential seems to be aimed at installing an environment for package development. Is there any package for misc. development?
[03:54] <Angie> ubuntu.de
[03:54] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[03:54] <Angie> help my
[03:54] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[03:54] <jhaig> I suggested buying more memory but he is a poor student (so he claims)
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> Angie, type this /join #ubuntu-de
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> !de
[03:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:55] <Dr_willis> spunk_,  misc. development of what? :)
[03:55] <Angie> danke
[03:55] <dragonfire1> I'm trying to install ubuntu I'm at the partion area I have four partions 9.9 each
[03:55] <meson_ray> -_-
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> 9.9 each ?
[03:55] <meson_ray> jhaig:  more memory for a system with 128 MB has gotta be pretty cheap right now
[03:55] <dragonfire1> I 'm trying to prepare mount anywhere is there instructions on this searching
[03:55] <spunk_> Dr_willis, c-programs. :-)
[03:55] <finalbeta> jhaig, yes, so did I. but now I read this. http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/ even tho it's written by a KDe dev.
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> spunk_, gcc is in build-essential ..
[03:56] <Dr_willis> spunk_,  then install build-essential  its got thej core set of tools needed todo that then
[03:56] <dragonfire1> Says no root file
[03:56] <dragonfire1> sytem
[03:56] <DJ_Danni> Hello
[03:56] <Dr_willis> spunk_,  then install whatever -dev files you need for the libs/tools/libraries you wish to use
[03:56] <Alakazam_> hi DJ_Danni
[03:56] <spunk_> wickedpuppy, Dr_willis ok, I'll go for build-essential. thanks!
[03:56] <DJ_Danni> Need som info
[03:56] <DJ_Danni> 500 Internal Error
[03:56] <spunk_> Dr_willis, ok
[03:56] <DJ_Danni> There was an unusual problem serving the requested URL '/phpmyadmin/index.php'.
[03:56] <DJ_Danni> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[03:56] <DJ_Danni> thttpd/2.23beta1 26may2002
[03:56] <DJ_Danni> What error is this
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, ask in #php ?
[03:57] <Angie> hallo
[03:57] <DJ_Danni> ok
[03:57] <Angie> hi wahts uppppppppppppppppppp
[03:57] <jhaig> Anyway, I told him that it would be sluggish with that much memory, so I may still try (x)ubuntu
[04:00] <Mille> lo
[04:00] <Mille> i should be able to make my ubuntu partition bigger with the ubuntu-cd huh?
[04:00] <[GuS] > hi guys! there is an app in Ubuntu or Kubuntu to handly with Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone?
[04:01] <Mille> ... using gpart or gtpart or what it's called.
[04:01] <[GuS] > gparted is
[04:02] <Mille> gparted. but that should be possible, huh?
[04:02] <Gosty> please help me http://pastebin.it/2035 will this work? i want subdomains in my local network
[04:02] <[GuS] > general, ext3 does not allow or is to risk to do that Mille
[04:04] <skircr115> why doesnt ubuntu work with wireless internet
[04:04] <KenSentMe> !wireless > skircr115
[04:04] <ArvineClone> Hi, I have a possibly simple question, but my rummaging through ubuntuforums hasn't turned up anything useful, is there a quick-n-dirty way to change sound driver setups?  from the Intel onboard to something more generic like AC97?
[04:04] <blabla> hi
[04:04] <Dr_willis> skircr115,  it depends on the card/chipset
[04:05] <skircr115> yeah but i have the wireless chip and everything i need to run it but it doesnt run
[04:06] <KenSentMe> skircr115: what kind of hardware do you have?
[04:06] <blabla> when i try to load a webpage, i can connect to the server, but it stops when it comes to the http request. how can i fix that?
[04:07] <mAIJK-> How do I do to autostart an service when I restart my server?
[04:07] <haffe> add a start script to /etc/init.d
[04:08] <skircr115> umm... 5.10
[04:09] <Mille> any ideas when a new ubuntu version with the latest gnome will be released? :-)
[04:09] <haffe> Mille:  Edgy Eft = 6.10 s Month 10 of year 6
[04:10] <Mille> i see
[04:10] <Mille> that's about now xD
[04:10] <haffe> Yepp.
[04:11] <jenda> !ati
[04:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:11] <haffe> Might be postponed to 6.12 though.
[04:11] <Gosty> please help me http://pastebin.it/2035 will this work? i want subdomains in my local network
[04:11] <haffe> AFAIK it's 6 month relaease cycle.
[04:11] <shriphani> i am learning python
[04:11] <shriphani> done !
[04:11] <[GuS] > people... some app to handle/admin motorola v300 phone?
[04:13] <jhaig> haffe: Is that true that it might be postponed?  I mentioned earlier that I'm thinking of giving Ubuntu to my brother, and I was going to get 6.10 beta, but now I may go for the previous version.
[04:13] <Dr_willis> [GuS] ,  clarify 'handle' - theres the bluetooth tools.
[04:13] <haffe> I don't know, my guess is as good as yours jhaig
[04:13] <[GuS] > handle, i mean for example... to download the photos from it
[04:13] <jhaig> haffe: Well, you're guess is probably better than mine.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> [GuS] ,   the bluetooth tools.
[04:14] <[GuS] > i have connected at usb (i use Kubuntu) and in bluetools does not appears the v300...
[04:14] <haffe> Hmmm, now I think I have done something stupid again.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> [GuS] ,  ive accessed my bluetooth enabled phone with the various bluetooth tools.. andyes. it can be an annoyance
[04:14] <haffe> first I ran sudo passwd root
[04:14] <haffe> After that I ran sudo userdel root
[04:14] <[GuS] > Dr_willis, for example, which one tool?
[04:14] <Dr_willis> as usb - the device 'should' show up as a hard drive. Check dmesg output and 'sudo fdisk -l'
[04:15] <[GuS] > whai i have is: sudo apt-get install libusb-dev
[04:15] <[GuS] > ups
[04:15] <[GuS] > i mean
[04:15] <Dr_willis> [GuS] ,  kde and gnome both have theor own bluetooth tools.. i dont rember the names.. they are in the menus when installed.
[04:15] <[GuS] > Bus 002 Device 028: ID 22b8:4902 Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone
[04:16] <[GuS] > with that command does not show as a "another disk"
[04:17] <THX-1138> Any nifty tips on using .gnomerc?
[04:17] <Dr_willis> its possible the phone has tobe in a specific mode to work as a usb drive.
[04:17] <[GuS] > ok
[04:17] <THX-1138> Good Morning Dr_willis
[04:17] <Gosty> Hi please help me. I want subdomains in my local network etc. mysql.gosty-pc.lan and so on i want to apply this: http://pastebin.it/2035 will this work?
[04:18] <Dr_willis> Howdy THX-1138
[04:18] <MadDog011> Does anyone have 15min of time, I need help setting up a UBUNTU router
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, if you ask me there isnt a bind expert here alive ...
[04:19] <umbro> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[04:19] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: but it isn't for expert but i am newbie :D
[04:20] <THX-1138> MadDog011 - Have you taken a look at Firestarted, shorewall and bastille?
[04:20] <MadDog011> THX-1138, no can you link me?
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, well you can ask of course ... :P
[04:20] <THX-1138> MadDog01- s/Firestarted/Firestarter/g
[04:20] <boink_> MadDog011: I don't know the exact Ubuntu way of doing this, but it would be handly to read about iptables
[04:21] <boink_> with iptables you can make your Ubuntu box into a router
[04:21] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: so can you check it if it will work? i am newbie and i found it on internet so i a little but changed me for my need
[04:21] <MadDog011> is there any tutorial out there
[04:21] <MadDog011> I downloaded UBUNTU Server
[04:21] <MadDog011> installed it
[04:21] <MadDog011> and im utterly confused
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, if i know ... i would have answered it ...
[04:21] <THX-1138> MadDog - There are some nice webmin goodies for routers also. (you need a desktop)
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> really
[04:22] <Dr_willis> ubuntu homepage has several guides
[04:22] <meson_ray> is there a way of storing all the programs for ubuntu on another partition (can't mount it)?
[04:22] <boink> MadDog101: time to google to get a good script for your needs
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> for Ubuntu server .. there is only iptables ...
[04:22] <MadDog011> allright i'll google it out...
[04:22] <MadDog011> wickedpuppy, I need packet shaping too
[04:22] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: so it will work? i don't understand you..... :(
[04:22] <boink> then you'll need to set it up to start on boot once you have the iptables script you want
[04:22] <MadDog011> I need DNS Server I need Router packet shaping ...
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> MadDog011, packet shaping ?
[04:22] <MadDog011> yes
[04:23] <MadDog011> aka bandwith limiting
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> Gosty, no i do not know bind ... my networking is total noob
[04:23] <THX-1138> MadDog - Feeling adveturous take a peek at conntrack
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> i thought its called QOS
[04:23] <boink> djbdns is another good dns server too
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> oh well
[04:23] <MadDog011> no its not qos
[04:23] <MadDog011> I need packet shaping
[04:23] <Gosty> wickedpuppy: aha noo i need help
[04:24] <MadDog011> I need to limit bandwith of network users
[04:26] <Dr_willis> thats not nice for the users! :P
[04:26] <loopjeremyloop> strange issue - about 60% of the time when starting up, I'm missing either one or both of my panels (top/bottom) - restarting X (ctrl-alt-bs) sometimes fixes it, and sometimes I need to do it more than once.  Anyone else with this issue
[04:28] <Knute> how can i convert ogg to mp3?
[04:28] <THX-1138> looperjeremyloop - Do you have something launching from sessions startup programs that might interfere with gnome-panel? - xgl/xcompmgr?
[04:28] <loopjeremyloop> beryl, yeah
[04:28] <boink> Knute: sure
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> !beryl
[04:28] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:28] <boink> convert the ogg file to a wav file, then make that wav file a mp3 file
[04:28] <loopjeremyloop> rofl thank you ubotu
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> its a bot
[04:29] <meson_ray> Knute:  you might be able to do that with a standard out too
[04:29] <meson_ray> might not need the inbetween file
[04:29] <loopjeremyloop> i figured that out immediately after I typed that :)
[04:29] <THX-1138> looperjeremyloop - You may need a custom gdm-custom, .xinitrc or .gnomerc a little experimentation will fix it. - my bet is gdm-custom
[04:29] <Knute> but how can i decode ogg to wav?
[04:29] <boink> Knute: oggenc
[04:30] <loopjeremyloop> kk, any web resources offhand for that, THX-1138?
[04:30] <Knute> apt-get didnt find oggenc
[04:30] <THX-1138> looperjeremyloop #ubuntu-xgl
[04:30] <boink> hmm, is it vorbis tools?
[04:30] <loopjeremyloop> okay thanks THX-1138
[04:30] <boink> apt-cache search vorbis-tools or something like that
[04:31] <meson_ray> !blender
[04:31] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[04:31] <Knute> jepp
[04:31] <Knute> thx
[04:31] <boink> and then man oggenc
[04:31] <boink> and then, of course, man lame
[04:32] <THX-1138> boink - Buddy, dearest friend. possibly you can save me from a *HUGE* mistake. IOs there an open source alternative to BlazePro fpr re=encoding .wmv to ogg? (100+ gigs it took daysto do.)
[04:32] <boink> THK-1138: sorry, don't know of any :/
[04:33] <boink> wmv is closed source and that sux
[04:33] <THX-1138> boink - GAH! (runs scrams and pounds head on wall.)
[04:33] <boink> wmv is 3vil stuff, sadly
[04:33] <Moroso> any1 can tell me how (with wich program) i can substitute tabulation with 8 spaces?
[04:33] <THX-1138> Aspirin STAT!
[04:34] <boink> stick to open source :)
[04:34] <Moroso> i'm going crazy
[04:34] <boink> <- already is
[04:34] <zeronenorez> help
[04:34] <haffe> Moroso:  Any text editor with search & replace should do it for you.
[04:35] <dennda> hi. how may i install the default open source driver for my ati graphics card?
[04:35] <zeronenorez> my xfce lost panels
[04:35] <zeronenorez> but i reworked that
[04:35] <boink> damm, it's oggdec instead of oggenc .. heh. little boo-boo
[04:35] <Moroso> haffe: great, but what i have to search for? there is a code for tabulation?
[04:35] <zeronenorez> but then shouldn't shutdown
[04:35] <haffe> Just press the tab key, should work I think.
[04:36] <THX-1138> boink - BlazePro is looking like the single option.
[04:36] <zeronenorez> with the warning: xfce-session is running....
[04:36] <Moroso> haffe, it doesn't work, it pass at the next text field of the user interface
[04:36] <haffe> Odd.
[04:36] <orbin> dennda: default would be 'ati'.  it should already be installed.
[04:37] <Moroso> pass = switch
[04:38] <zeronenorez> suck that
[04:38] <MadDog011> I just gave up on UBUNTU :) switching to centos :)))
[04:39] <boink> good luck then
[04:39] <boink> centos is a very good system too
[04:39] <MadDog011> thanx
[04:39] <zeronenorez> not better than ubuntu
[04:39] <MadDog011> I know, this ubuntu server is way too different than anything I ever worked on
[04:40] <boink> it's based on debian, whearas centos is based on red hat 9
[04:40] <MadDog011> That should work allright
[04:40] <jhaig> Centos is based on RHEL of the same version.
[04:41] <jhaig> Ie, Centos 4 is based on RHEL 4
[04:41] <boink> ok
[04:41] <SpComb> gah, this debian -> ubuntu conversion is not working. Is there any way to boot the ubuntu installer/livecd from a USB stick instead of a CD?
[04:41] <zeronenorez> how about gentoo?
[04:41] <bm0nk>  I've managed to get ubuntu to see my usb wg121 (v2)  card...but I'm having some difficulty getting it connected to the internet...
[04:41] <jhaig> Gentoo is based on it's own two feet  ;-)
[04:41] <SpComb> I've tried googleing, but all I can find is stuff about installing ubuntu to a USB stick
[04:42] <boink> gentoo is the most "BSD" of all linux distros
[04:43] <bm0nk> !wireless
[04:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:43] <zeronenorez> i have an mini gentoo ISO how could i boot it on disk?
[04:44] <D-Line> hello
[04:44] <Wulong> Do ubuntu support WPA/WPA2 by default, install?
[04:44] <Wulong> Ubuntuinstaller.
[04:44] <bm0nk> No :(
[04:44] <D-Line> ubuntu 6.06 used default memory 106 mb ?
[04:44] <D-Line> i have 128 mb ram and ubuntu is used 106 mb
[04:45] <MadDog011> should I install X with Gnome on a 450mhz pc?
[04:45] <D-Line> is it normal ?
[04:45] <Wulong> MadDog011: depends on it usage, I wouldn't.
[04:45] <MadDog011> k im not going to
[04:45] <MadDog011> its a server
[04:45] <Wulong> X, not on a server!
[04:45] <MadDog011> ok
[04:45] <MadDog011> no x then
[04:45] <Wulong> D-Line: Linux is trying to use as much ram as possible. For petter perforamce.
[04:46] <zeronenorez> how to boot :SabayonLinux-x86-3.0e.miniEdition.iso?
[04:46] <MadDog011> what is Legacy software development
[04:46] <MadDog011> do I need it on a linux server
[04:47] <D-Line> ok Wulong
[04:47] <IceTox> ANyone here have ever installed a "Creative Webcam Live!" on ubuntu? I can't get any drivers what so ever for the webcam :(
[04:47] <D-Line> I have ubuntu server for websites
[04:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !webcam > IceTox
[04:48] <THX-1138> IceTox - what does lspci , lshw  say about the chip inside?
[04:48] <D-Line> and I think 106 mb very big ram for server
[04:48] <spunk_> I've ha laptop with an (old) wifi-card (Prism 2 I believe). Can I use it to connect to an AP that uses WPA2-PSK? Is it required that the wifi-card's hardware supports WPA2 or can that be handled in software?
[04:50] <THX-1138> spunk_ - Do you want to see if ubotu knows anything about !wpa?
[04:50] <THX-1138> !wpa
[04:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:50] <wikijeff> Is there a way I can stop the gnome network manager applet from running at startup without uninstalling it?
[04:50] <THX-1138> spunk_ - hm. - not terribly enlightening.
[04:50] <ArvinClone> Hi, I asked a little while ago but i got bumped, is there any simple way to switch audio drivers?  The Intel audio controller in the HP dv8000t has no working microphone so I want to try using the AC97 instead.
[04:51] <spunk_> THX-1138, yep, If Ubuntu can handle WPA...
[04:52] <IceTox> THX-1138: the output of the usb from lshw is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25586/ (lspci gave me nothing about the issue)
[04:52] <ajopaul> ArvinClone, select pref or Admin -> sound change ur default sound dev there
[04:52] <THX-1138> spunk_ - WiFi is still painful. - enabled it yesterday and was stuck on reboot. "configuring network interfaces" - reinstalled. - lol
[04:52] <billytwowilly> what is the default port for ssh? 22?
[04:52] <spunk_> THX-1138, :-)
[04:53] <spunk_> billytwowilly, yep
[04:53] <mdasilva_> anyone here use evolution? is there  a way to have signatures placed before inline quoted text for replies/forwards?
[04:53] <IceTox> yes billytwowilly. But you can change it if ya want in the /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[04:53] <pumuky> hola,soy novato en esto de linux,para instalar es aptitude install nombre del programa?
[04:53] <THX-1138> !es
[04:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:54] <bettyboop1975> j
[04:54] <macsim> anybody can tell me what preseed means ?
[04:54] <IceTox> !no
[04:54] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[04:54] <IceTox> sweet
[04:54] <Alakazam_> .
[04:55] <macsim> IceTox: pressed means sweet ?
[04:55] <IceTox> the oppertunity of talking other people in your own language is sweet macsim :)
[04:55] <ArvinClone> Is anybody here familiar with how to change/swap sound drivers
[04:55] <IceTox> THX-1138: the output of the usb from lshw is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25586/ (lspci gave me nothing about the issue)
[04:56] <macsim> IceTox: ok ...
[04:56] <THX-1138> IceTox - sigh - i don't have a clue.
[04:57] <IceTox> that's ok THX-1138. :) I'll go on searching google :)
[04:57] <ArtVandalae> Where does Ubuntu store the dl .deb files?
[04:57] <ArvinClone> Is anybody here familiar with how to change/swap sound drivers??
[04:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> ArtVandalae, /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:58] <richee> !edgy
[04:58] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:58] <IceTox> that would be /var/cache/apt/archieves ArtVandalae
[04:58] <richee> !schedule
[04:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:58] <IceTox> oh.. nevermind.. I'm just slow :)
[04:59] <ArtVandalae> Thanks
[04:59] <IceTox> :)
[04:59] <ArvinClone> I've already hunted through Ubuntu Forums, but I'm not coming up with anything short of total kern recompile :(
[04:59] <xav_> does anyone also have problem with fonts in openoffice?
[04:59] <xav_> all fonts are awfully blurred
[04:59] <xav_> and the menu fonts are huge
[04:59] <xav_> http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oofontsyp0.png
[05:00] <Zaggynl> I secretly use Office in WinXP in vmware :>
[05:00] <xav_> baaad
[05:00] <meson_ray> ArvinClone: you could try rmmod
[05:00] <ArvinClone> rmmod?
[05:00] <meson_ray> ArvinClone: that shuts down driver modules
[05:01] <ArvinClone> but how to put AC97 in it's place?
[05:01] <meson_ray> modprobe
[05:01] <ArvinClone> I consulted with a hardware friend who said the Conextant and AC97 are very similar
[05:01] <ajopaul> ArvinClone, am not on gnome so not sure wher it is but sure had swapped once sound device, goto Preference or Administration -> sound -> default device
[05:01] <ArvinClone> hmmmm that would require me to install GNOME then
[05:01] <meson_ray> are you on kubuntu?
[05:01] <ArvinClone> yep
[05:01] <ArvinClone> 6.06
[05:02] <htims> hello, where can i find the list of applied patches to the dapper / edgy kernels?
[05:02] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to format an usb drive using ubuntu?
[05:02] <xav_> htims, there is a git repo afaik
[05:02] <meson_ray> have you tried kconfig?
[05:02] <xav_> SuperMiguel, usb drives are no different than normal drives
[05:02] <htims> xav_: do you know where? --
[05:02] <sproingie> htims: i'm pretty sure they're separated out into their own directory in the source .deb
[05:02] <ArvinClone> no is that like xconfig?
[05:03] <meson_ray> it's the kde control center
[05:03] <xav_> htims, no
[05:03] <SuperMiguel> is not lerting fotmat it
[05:03] <SuperMiguel> it says that i dont have permission
[05:03] <meson_ray> try running on sudo
[05:03] <SuperMiguel> how
[05:03] <ArvinClone> yeah there's nothing in the sound server that lets me change the audio driver
[05:03] <meson_ray> hm...
[05:03] <meson_ray> SuperMiguel:  sudo *command*
[05:03] <xav_> http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/11/5/246
[05:03] <SuperMiguel> yea
[05:04] <SuperMiguel> but what is the comand to format usb drivers?
[05:04] <SuperMiguel> drive*
[05:04] <meson_ray> oh
[05:04] <ArvinClone> I am guessing that if Conextant is similar enough to AC97 (unproven but i'll take a guess at this point) then maybe modprobe could find it?
[05:04] <meson_ray> sorry, dunno
[05:04] <meson_ray> *sorry dunno was to SuerMiguelp
[05:05] <meson_ray> well modprobe can load it regardless
[05:05] <meson_ray> but whether it will work or not...
[05:05] <meson_ray> (maybe?)
[05:05] <bobezus> Is there a way to use a DV CAM as a WEBCAM?
[05:05] <ArvinClone> oh well even if it worked crapily it'd be no worse than the current one
[05:05] <meson_ray> you can try to modprobe it
[05:05] <ArvinClone> Intel's support is almost as bad as none at all
[05:06] <meson_ray> what sound architecture are you using?
[05:06] <meson_ray> arts?
[05:06] <ArvinClone> on a intel board - volume sucks, microphone's AWOL, memstick controller's not found
[05:06] <ArvinClone> yeah using arts/alsa
[05:06] <ArvinClone> but i found out OSS is no better
[05:06] <sproingie> i thought arts replaced alsa
[05:06] <ArvinClone> there's several threads on ubuntuforums, many complaints, and nothing from Intel/HP so far
[05:06] <xav_> htims, you can still look at the changelog, and get the source package
[05:07] <meson_ray> up until now i've always used alsa
[05:07] <mdasilva_> anyone here use evolution? is there  a way to have signatures placed before inline quoted text for replies/forwards?
[05:09] <meson_ray> what's the lspci on your audio?
[05:10] <ArvinClone> lemme check
[05:10] <sproingie> alsa makes me hate linux all over again
[05:10] <ArvinClone> problem is i'm using win partition right now (had to use skype)
[05:10] <mdasilva_> omg why not include a top quoting option for evolution
[05:10] <mdasilva_> this is retarded
[05:10] <ArvinClone> that's the worst, i can live with crappy volume and no stick, but no microphone means no sky;e :(
[05:10] <meson_ray> yeah, i had to do that last night too, boot intpeo windows for sky
[05:10] <sproingie> i have a realtek ac97, single most common sound chipset there is.  and it can't handle doing line out and spdif at the same time
[05:10] <CromagDK> !grub
[05:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:10] <sproingie> configuring it in general is just extreme pain
[05:11] <meson_ray> whoops
[05:11] <meson_ray> !paste
[05:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:11] <ArvinClone> ok that was stupid on my part
[05:11] <meson_ray> ArvinClone: use pastebin
[05:13] <ArvinClone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25588/
[05:15] <meson_ray> do you know what driver it uses?
[05:17] <ArvinClone> I believe it's the 82801G controller
[05:18] <meson_ray> do you know what the linux driver name is?
[05:18] <ArvinClone> not off hand, i'd have to switch back to find out :(
[05:19] <IceTox> it occurs to me that webcams are supposed to be mounted to /dev/video0. Mine is not. Anyone can help me? 'lshw' information on the device is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25586/
[05:20] <bertugolu> from where do i edit the chmod
[05:20] <bertugolu> ?
[05:21] <IceTox> in the terminal bertugolu, or by right clicking the file and go to properties.
[05:21] <meson_ray> ArvinClone:  it looks like there might not be support for it yet.  i found a patch for alsa-drivers, but that's not likely to help you
[05:22] <meson_ray> ArvinClone: you're looking at a kernel compile maybe
[05:23] <ArvinClone> recompile with what though?
[05:23] <ArvinClone> the alsa patch?
[05:23] <meson_ray> actually, take alsa OUT
[05:23] <meson_ray> and use alsa-drivers
[05:23] <meson_ray> and the hda-intel driver
[05:24] <ArvinClone> actually, HDA-Intel is what I have now i believe
[05:24] <meson_ray> which kernel do you have?
[05:24] <[GuS] > Dr_willis, , it works with moto4lin ;)
[05:24] <ArvinClone> I have the *.16 driver for SMP
[05:25] <ArvinClone> 16-25.15,16 and 17
[05:25] <meson_ray> so 2.6.16?
[05:25] <mdasilva_> is there a way to move an active process to screen without restarting the process all over again?
[05:26] <meson_ray> i think the driver in that version might be broken
[05:26] <ArvinClone> yeah, 2.6.16
[05:26] <ArvinClone> I had read that the SD reader in breezy is broken, one thread mentioned that the prior version worked
[05:26] <meson_ray> i found something where someone using slackware took alsa out of the kernel and used alsa-drivers and got it working
[05:26] <ArvinClone> i've pondered installing a 2.4 kernel for comparison
[05:27] <ArvinClone> well if i was gonna chuck ubuntu it'd be to gentoo rather than slack
[05:27] <ArvinClone> nothing against slack, but something appealing about the control that gentoo offers
[05:27] <fejdan> Helo! im from sweden, can anybody help me with my server? i need to fix ip so i can go on the internet..
[05:27] <meson_ray> i'm not saying you should use slack
[05:27] <meson_ray> i'm just saying that this person was using slack and got it working by using alsa-drivers
[05:27] <kmandla> greetings!
[05:27] <meson_ray> even if you're using ubuntu, you should be able tto get it working like tha
[05:28] <xav_> ArtVandalae, don't talk about gentoo
[05:28] <fejdan> kmandla can you help me?
[05:28] <ArtVandalae> ArtVandalae: ?
[05:28] <ArtVandalae> woops
[05:28] <ArvinClone> LOL
[05:28] <kmandla> with what?
[05:28] <ArtVandalae> xav_: ?
[05:28] <ArvinClone> i think he meant me
[05:28] <meson_ray> *cough*  I don't use gentoo at all....
[05:28] <fejdan> kmandla my server, im a little noob :P
[05:28] <xav_> ArvinClone, yes indeed, sorry :)
[05:29] <ArvinClone> i'd never use it for a laptop, i prefer to have a install take less than 8 hours, call me impatient
[05:29] <brainstew> hi my problem:  well i was a jerk and changed dapper to edgy in sources.list .. upgraded and then changed back to dapper in souces.list and put dapper back.. so now the gdm looks like windows 98 or smthn.. how can i get the nice ubuntu look back?
[05:29] <fejdan> kmandla never used buntu
[05:29] <kmandla> i can try. i'm not very good with servers.
[05:29] <meson_ray> anyway the point was if you use alsa-driver you should be able to get it working
[05:29] <xav_> ArvinClone, i'd never use it for anything
[05:29] <meson_ray> only that would require you to recompile your kernel
[05:29] <meson_ray> without alsa support
[05:29] <tRSS> i need some desperate help with my grub and disk partitions
[05:29] <ArvinClone> see i foolishly assumed that the hardware specific driver would trump a generic one, at least till i ran into Inteldrivers LOL
[05:29] <meson_ray> my biggest suggestion would actually be to get a second opinion and do what i say as a last resort, because it's a pain in the ass
[05:30] <ArvinClone> yes, i consider a recompile one stop short of wiping the install completely
[05:30] <fejdan> kmandla i need to fix a ip or something, so i can go out on the internet
[05:30] <ArvinClone> takes almost as much time i think
[05:30] <brainstew> THX-1138, hi my problem:  well i was a jerk and changed dapper to edgy in sources.list .. upgraded and then changed back to dapper in souces.list and put dapper back.. so now the gdm looks like windows 98 or smthn.. how can i get the nice ubuntu look back?
[05:30] <meson_ray> mine's a silicon integrated systems audio controller and it uses an intel driver
[05:30] <ArvinClone> what really blows me away, in windows, the SD controller is listed as a "Standards Compliant SD Controller"
[05:30] <kmandla> hmm. are you working with a router, or is this through another computer?
[05:31] <tRSS> I have 3 partitions with win xp (ntfs), ubuntu (ext3) with / and /boot, another ext3 partition which has my backup
[05:31] <fejdan> kmandla with a router
[05:31] <kmandla> excellent! and you want the router to allow your machine on to the internet?
[05:31] <ArvinClone> apparently the HDA chipset has a bad history with linux compatiility
[05:31] <fejdan> is the anybody who is from sweden here?
[05:31] <fejdan> kmandla
[05:31] <fejdan> yes
[05:31] <tRSS> i reinstalled win xp, and it erased grub from the mbr. I reinstalled grub onto  the mbr (setup (hd0))
[05:31] <meson_ray> !grub
[05:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:32] <dhq> i have the source of xorg 7.1 how do i build it i hit command sudo ./configure
[05:32] <Acdic32> updating to 6.06
[05:32] <Acdic32> how do i update from 6.06 to edgy?
[05:32] <xav_> tRSS, rule number one : always install windows before linux if you are going to dualboot
[05:32] <Acdic32> !edgy
[05:32] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:32] <kmandla> fejdan do you know your own IP address and the address of your router?
[05:32] <meson_ray> tRSS said 'reinstall'
[05:32] <THX-1138> brainstew - That sounds involved. - Use a band aid and cover it with a new theme?
[05:32] <fejdan> kmandla
[05:32] <fejdan> yes i do
[05:32] <Acdic32> !schedule
[05:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:32] <tRSS> xav: i do that, but I had to reinstall win xp, without reinstalling linux
[05:32] <tRSS> brb
[05:33] <jwl007> Oct. 26th.. woohoo
[05:33] <xav_> rule number two : don't use windows, because you always have to reinstall it
[05:33] <fejdan> kmandla sry for my bad english :)
[05:34] <ArvinClone> ok i'm switching back to Kubuntu, back in a sec
[05:34] <brainstew> THX-1138, if i change themes.. if themes are the things under "user interface settings" .. then it will only change colors of the windows 98 looking theme
[05:34] <THX-1138> mdasilva_ - the gtprgrp command sound right? http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl2_getpgrp.htm
[05:34] <fejdan> witch is the easiest buntu client?
[05:34] <brainstew> THX-1138, id like to reinstall the part of ubuntu where the look is.. i removed gdm and reinstallid it.. but didnt work
[05:34] <kmandla> fejdan no problem. my english is pretty bad too. :)
[05:35] <fejdan> kmandla ;) do you think you can help me?
[05:35] <jenda> Ubuntu won't recognise my WD Combo external drive. Any ideas?
[05:35] <jenda> HD drive, that is
[05:35] <haffe> Could someone help me? I installed phphmyadmin but my user and password won't let me in. What should I do ?
[05:35] <CromagDK> root and no password
[05:35] <CromagDK> try that
[05:35] <kmandla> fejdan i'll try, but i'm afraid i don't have much time. do you connect with dhcp? do you know?
[05:35] <CromagDK> i cant remember if its for phpmyadmin..
[05:36] <fejdan> kmandla hmm idont know, whats dhcp?
[05:36] <THX-1138> madasilva_ - setpgid?
[05:36] <fejdan> kmandla im connecting to a router
[05:36] <kmandla> fejdan it's an automatic ip assigning system. if you're using a regular router like netgear or linksys, it will use dhcp to give you an ip
[05:37] <mike> For some reason, my ubuntu CD wouldn't install, so i installed kubuntu however, i want to use gnome. I "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" but when i go into gnome all the panels and such arent there. Any ideas?
[05:37] <fejdan> kmandla aha, i have a netgear i think
[05:37] <kmandla> fejdan good! usually if you open a browser and point it at 192.168.1.1, you'll get a configuration page
[05:37] <orestyle3> Is software raid faster than hardware raid....
[05:37] <SuperMiguel> hello i have a internal wireless card i can use it from windows but when i use ubuntu i wont turn on :S
[05:37] <SuperMiguel> how can i set it up
[05:38] <brainstew> THX-1138,  thunar wont start because it doesnt find ubuntulooks module_path.. what should i do? reinstall?
[05:38] <meson_ray> what card?
[05:38] <xav_> orestyle3, faster? why would it be?
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> Broadcon
[05:38] <meson_ray> can you paste the line from lspci?
[05:38] <meson_ray> use pastebin
[05:38] <meson_ray> !paste
[05:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> BCM4318 AIRFORCE
[05:39] <meson_ray> are you on amd64?
[05:39] <orestyle3> Well, I have a old dual 733 processor dell and a dual amd 64 process or hp and when testing they are only 20 seconds apart (on hardware one software)
[05:39] <meson_ray> SuperMiguel:  64bit or 32bit ubuntu?
[05:39] <fejdan> kmandla
[05:39] <fejdan> okey
[05:39] <dhq> is there a guide to install xserver7.1 from sources
[05:40] <xav_> orestyle3, maybe you need to compare something comparable ?
[05:40] <villa> salut
[05:40] <kmandla> fejdan see if you can find a "basic settings" page. that will tell you if the router is using dhcp or static ip addresses
[05:40] <xav_> orestyle3, on the pc where you are using hardware raid, switch to software and see what the difference is
[05:40] <fejdan> kmandla is using static
[05:40] <meson_ray> SuperMiguel:  Are you running a 32-bit version of Ubuntu or a 64-bit version?
[05:41] <orestyle3> xav_: from what dell says the software raid smokes the hardware raid.  I understand the software is better
[05:42] <SuperMiguel> 32 bit
[05:42] <fejdan> kmandla brb
[05:42] <brainstew> THX-1138,  the edgy thing was a serious mistake.. my xorg.conf is a mess.. ntfs-3g wont work  and shiid :(
[05:42] <orestyle3> xav_: I would but my HP does not allow me to disable the onboard raid controller.  I would have to purchase another HBA...
[05:42] <meson_ray> i had this problem yesterday on installation actually
[05:42] <orestyle3> xav_:  I tried to configure it with SWR but got errors on the installation.
[05:42] <xav_> orestyle3, onboard raid controller isn't hardware raid
[05:42] <kmandla> fejdan ok.
[05:43] <meson_ray> SuperMiguel:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[05:43] <meson_ray> Be careful, there are two versions of the drivers - one is 64bit, the other is 32bit, and you need the 32bit version to make it work
[05:44] <orestyle3> xav_: from HP its called an integrated array smart 6i controller
[05:44] <orestyle3> xav_: that must be why I can disable it on the dell system, not on the HP..
[05:44] <shido> Does anybody know how to get rid of this "Debian" submeno that suddenly appeared in my "Applications" menu?   im using gnome
[05:45] <gershon> sudo apt-get remove menu
[05:45] <shido> gershon i removed that pack and the debian submenu is still there
[05:46] <gershon> shido: and through gui?
[05:46] <kmandla> gotta run, people. thnx and cya
[05:46] <shido> i dont know hows that gershon :(
[05:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here gotten s-video output to work with an ATI Radeon card?
[05:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Can't seem to find a good howto in the forums.
[05:47] <gershon> shido: alacarte, menu editor, right click menu and "edit menus"
[05:47] <meson_ray> Supermiguel:  I found the answer earlier, but i can't find the page now
[05:47] <FunnyLookinHat> And is anyone else having problems downloading XINE?
[05:47] <SuperMiguel> :(
[05:47] <shido> ohh thanks gershon, i'll try that :)
[05:48] <zoram> hi there
[05:48] <meson_ray> i'll post to pastebin
[05:48] <meson_ray> !paste
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:48] <zoram> anyone knowledgable about the ati R200 bug arround here ?
[05:48] <FunnyLookinHat> !easysource
[05:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:48] <xav_> OH SHIT
[05:49] <xav_> motherfuckin car
[05:49] <xav_> I HATE CAR
[05:49] <xav_> DIE CAR DIE
[05:49] <SuperMiguel> xav dont use drugs
[05:49] <xav_> fuckin moron car user, die too
[05:49] <xav_> there you go
[05:49] <g-nome> hello, i want to completely reformat my ipod, what's the command to reformat at fat32?
[05:49] <orestyle3> xav_: actually I think the smartarray is pci-x card
[05:50] <gershon> any1 else python issues with gnome 2.16.1 ?
[05:50] <THX-1138> !ipod
[05:50] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[05:50] <FunnyLookinHat> !tell xav_ about language
[05:50] <jrib> gershon: are you on edgy?
[05:50] <FunnyLookinHat> !language
[05:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:50] <Elko> xav, maybe you are looking for an alternate support group?
[05:50] <meson_ray> SuperMiguel:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:50] <gershon> yeah, recent update killed all python-gnome apps
[05:50] <meson_ray> there's how i found the answer, i think
[05:50] <zoram> anyone here who could help me with that fglrx /ati bug ?
[05:50] <meson_ray> if you follow that you should be fine
[05:51] <xav_> Elko, I just need to kill myself, because I'm sick of this world which is getting worse and worse
[05:51] <jrib> gershon: edgy in #ubuntu+1
[05:51] <meson_ray> shoot, that's the wrong page
[05:52] <g-nome> hello, i want to completely reformat my ipod, what's the command to reformat at fat32?
[05:52] <gershon> jrib: 10x
[05:52] <Elko> xav_: heh, http://cox.ev.ath.cx:7420/
[05:53] <dealer> what's the minimum disk space needed for ubuntu?
[05:53] <THX-1138> dealer - about 5g for a desktop.
[05:53] <dealer> just for the install?
[05:53] <CCmonster> or are you including apps?
[05:53] <xenoNfluX> my server install is just over 1.6GB... but I've added a few things to it
[05:54] <tristanmike> dealer: the offical package says at least 2 gb
[05:54] <dealer> but with gnome and all that stuff, how much it uses?
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> 2 gig
[05:54] <tristanmike> dealer: that's it
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> +your files
[05:54] <FunnyLookinHat> What apt-get command fixes broken packages?  i have quite a few apparently
[05:54] <xenoNfluX> 2GB at least
[05:54] <jenda> Does GRUB number partitions in the same order Ubuntu does (-1, of course), or does it use the order they are in on the disk?
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> funkyHat_, -f install
[05:55] <abionnnn> Is there any way to run XFIG on ubuntu?
[05:55] <g-nome> hello, how can i reformat a drive (fat32)?
[05:55] <dealer> and for xubuntu?
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda, dsic
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> *disc
[05:55] <xenoNfluX> considering the server install doesnt come with GNOME/etc
[05:55] <jenda> Kamping_Kaiser: k, thx
[05:55] <zoram> anyone having any idea about the fglrx /ati problem ???? see there : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/47371/+index
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda, thats afaik :)
[05:56] <jenda> Kamping_Kaiser: AFAYK is good enough ;)
[05:56] <xenoNfluX> jenda, (hd0,0) is your first disk, first partition
[05:56] <jenda> The worst that happens is that it won't work.
[05:56] <dealer> xenoNfluX: the same space?
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda, :)
[05:56] <jenda> yep, yep... thx, xenoNfluX :)
[05:56] <meson_ray> SuperMiguel:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25590/
[05:56] <meson_ray> i believe that is all the steps i used to fix it
[05:56] <morphir> anyone run engage on dapper?
[05:56] <Dimensions> hi i have installed php on my linux ubuntu system along with emacs and Nvu when i make a test page and save it as .php and then open it in firefox it says open with and then opens blank pages again and again this happens repeatedly ...
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> morphir, you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:57] <xenoNfluX> dealer, my Ubuntu Server install is right around 1.6GB and I've not added much to it.... Server doesnt come with GNOME or any of those GUI apps, so Desktop is going to weigh in at a bit more
[05:57] <meson_ray> SuperMiguel:  You also have to add ndiswrapper-utils through synaptics package manager
[05:57] <brainstew> man i fucked up.. how could i restore my dapper if i upgraded to edgy ... i changed dapper repos back but it doesnt work
[05:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dimensions, save it in ~/public_html, then visint localhost/~username
[05:57] <dealer> okay
[05:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, language, please
[05:57] <brosnan> Dimensions: check the mime-type that the server is sending the file as
[05:57] <brainstew> yesyes.. but how to restore dapper setup
[05:58] <sproingie> brainstew: you're looking at reinstalling
[05:58] <brainstew> damn damn damn damn damn
[05:58] <harry> can someone help me with this website. i cant log in to the MAIN LOG IN https://cabincrew.emirates.com/?
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, theres no 'roll back'
[05:58] <sproingie> rollback would be pretty nifty.  probably take a lot of space for whole dist-upgrades tho
[05:58] <meson_ray> SuperMiguel:  system>administration>synaptics package manager... then edit>add CD-ROM
[05:58] <meson_ray> afterwards you can install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:59] <dealer> thanks a lot
[05:59] <harry> can someone help me with this website. i cant log in to the MAIN LOG IN https://cabincrew.emirates.com/?
[05:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> Harksaw, could you not spam thanks?
[05:59] <brainstew> what about terminal.. aptitude upgrade stuff doesnt work?` Kamping_Kaiser ?
[05:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> er, harry , could you not spam
[05:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, what have you done?
[05:59] <sproingie> don't ask spammers nicely
[05:59] <harry> Kamping_Kaiser: i wasnt.
[06:00] <meson_ray> download the windows 32-bit driver from your computer maker.  the driver should be called bcmwl5.inf
[06:00] <zoram> well I'm probably asking in vain, but I'll try again: Anybody here who had a problem with FGLRX and an ATI graphic card and solved it ??*
[06:00] <youbuntwo> zoram: me, i bought an NVIDIA
[06:00] <brainstew> well i changed dapper in sources.list to edgy and upgraded.. then changed back and upgraded.. now it is a mutant of some kind
[06:00] <meson_ray> any questions?
[06:00] <zoram> thanks; that's helpful ://
[06:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, i havent, but thats nto very descritive :(
[06:00] <Spec> brainstew: i'm fairly certain that's not supported
[06:01] <harry> can someone help me with this website. i cant log in to the MAIN LOG IN https://cabincrew.emirates.com/?
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats not supported, and it wont work, as the edgy packages have a higher version number theen the dapper oens
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> *ones
[06:01] <zoram> Kamping_Kaiser, I can describe the issue if someone is ready to help :)
[06:01] <jenda> harry: this is the official support channel for Ubuntu, and that question is off-topic.
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, i'm 9 beers in, but i can try ;)
[06:02] <sproingie> please don't respond to spammers
[06:02] <brainstew> so Kamping_Kaiser  if i put edgy and upgrade again.. is there a possibility that it will go back to normal:\?
[06:02] <sproingie> !ops
[06:02] <Spec> harry: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:02] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:02] <Spec> sproingie: who is spamming?
[06:02] <sproingie> [harry]  (n=haboy@124.105.155.46) : Harry Inoferio
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, 'normal' yes
[06:02] <gnomefreak> ?
[06:02] <gnomefreak> sproingie: ???
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak, i suspect it was for harry
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> (*i suspect*)
[06:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, fwiw, my desktops edgy, and its 'stable'
[06:03] <zoram> Kamping-Kaiser, well it's all described there :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[06:03] <sproingie> hard to say, the site apparently being botspammed is empty
[06:03] <sproingie> oh well gotta go
[06:03] <brainstew> Kamping_Kaiser,  k ill upgrade then..
[06:03] <sproingie> sorry if that was a false alarm.  i doubt it was
[06:03] <gnomefreak> harry: what is stopping you from loggin in?
[06:04] <brainstew> some times i do the weirdest stuff in xterm.. Amen
[06:04] <harry> jenda. how come its off topic. i'm using ubuntu systems. that page can be opened through MS-Internet Explorer 6. i cant log in through firefox using ubuntu. so i need help
[06:04] <melon> can anybody suggest a better alternative for icq/msn/etc than gaim?
[06:04] <brainstew> melon amsn
[06:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> harry, more info would be helfpfull
[06:04] <zoram> Kamping-Kaiser, basically the newer ati driver is broken for R200 ati series, as a result, impossible to launch open office. A fix was given on the thread in the forum. Worked at first but doesn't anymore
[06:04] <THX-1138> sproingie - any talk of XGL in the next release or the one following?
[06:04] <melon> amsn - does that cover irc?
[06:04] <jenda> harry, ok
[06:05] <gnomefreak> THX-1138: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:05] <harry> sproingie: whats with my private IP??
[06:05] <gnomefreak> melon: no its just msn
[06:05] <xenoNfluX> harry, that's an issue with the web developer/web host, it most likely has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[06:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, have you tried the open source driver?
[06:05] <Mortice> melon: try bitlbee + your favourite IRC client
[06:05] <melon> yeah.. i was hoping for another all-in-one
[06:05] <gnomefreak> melon: gaim
[06:05] <melon> lol
[06:05] <BlueEagle> melon: kopete perhaps?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> i know you would rather not
[06:05] <zoram> Kamping-Kaiser, isn't it what I'm using ?
[06:06] <melon> thanks - i'll go through 'n test the suggestions :)
[06:06] <tonyr> hello
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, run 'grep fglx /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and tell me what it says
[06:06] <BlueEagle> harry: that page is not compatible with Opera in windows either.
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> er, Driver, not fglrx
[06:06] <harry> xenoNflux: i just thought that you expert linux users can do something about it
[06:06] <BlueEagle> harry: I suggest you write the adminitrators of the site and have them fix it.
[06:06] <THX-1138> irssi - on screen - now what was the alias i wanted!???
[06:06] <ph8> /quit?
[06:07] <tonyr> What's the edgy discussion channel?
[06:07] <b^j> i am running dapper and have not been able to install libgtk2.0-dev for like 3 weeks due to a dependency problem.  is this a known issue (how would i find this out?), is there a fix?  i really need to build an app the requires the lib
[06:07] <hantu> !edgy
[06:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:07] <ladydoor> is there a way to make sudo not create ~.sudo_as_admin_successful?
[06:07] <ph8> #ubuntu+1
[06:07] <zoram> grep fglx /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it says nothing, xorg conf is probably in another directory, hold on
[06:07] <BlueEagle> harry: it drops the error "The address type is unknown or unsupported\nvbscript:checkdll()" and it _is_ offtopic because it's not ubuntu-spesific.
[06:07] <ladydoor> * i mean, ~/sudo*
[06:07] <ladydoor> ...
[06:07] <brainstew> !schedule
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:07] <xenoNfluX> harry, some web developers only design for MSIE... unless you're suggesting we participate in illegal activity by hacking into and reworking the code on the site, I suggest you take this up with whoever built the site
[06:07] <harry> BlueEagle: thats a good idea. but i dont think their IT specialist will allow that. i think emirates airlines is affliated with MS
[06:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, use Driver not fglrx
[06:08] <zoram> Kamping_Kaiser,  nothing either
[06:08] <harry> xenoNflux: i get it. maybe its intentionally built for MS-IE only. for microsoft users
[06:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, :| wtf?
[06:08] <xenoNfluX> harry, your only option if they won't fix it so that you can use Firefox is to get MSIE working in WINE
[06:08] <brainstew> apt-get or aptitude and what is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[06:08] <zoram> Kamping_Kaiser, seb@seb-desktop:~$ grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:08] <zoram> seb@seb-desktop:~$
[06:09] <harry> xenoNflux: does it work on wine. ??
[06:09] <xenoNfluX> harry, yes, it does
[06:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, capital D
[06:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> Driver, not driver
[06:09] <b^j> brainstew, distupgrade is for moving between distros, ie dapper to edgy
[06:09] <Jaak_> is it safe/possible to write dvd's from ubu's live cd?
[06:09] <BlueEagle> harry: Then I suggest you find another airline or ride a bike. (and this still belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic so if you want to continue this then I suggest you join me there.)
[06:09] <xenoNfluX> harry, I'm no expert in WINE, but I know that it does.... someone else here should be able to help you to get that going
[06:09] <THX-1138> ie4linux is erm an "option" ... (ugh..)
[06:09] <kyja> I was sure there is an IE linux version
[06:09] <harry> xenoNflux: is IE for free. or do i have to get it with the MS installer
[06:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> b^j, it works perfectly well for system upgrades
[06:09] <brainstew> thanks
[06:10] <THX-1138> WINE won't support IE never will.
[06:10] <xenoNfluX> harry, MSIE is free, and there is an installer out there.... look for a WINE tutorial centered around MSIE
[06:10] <b^j> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah, but its intent is for between distrobutions
[06:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> THX-1138, 'it never will' is wrong :)
[06:10] <zoram> Kamping_Kaiser,   Driver      "kbd"
[06:10] <zoram>         Driver      "mouse"
[06:10] <zoram>         Driver      "wacom"
[06:10] <zoram>         Driver      "wacom"
[06:10] <zoram>         Driver      "wacom"
[06:10] <zoram>         Option      "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
[06:10] <zoram>         Driver      "ati"
[06:10] <zoram>         Driver      "fglrx"
[06:10] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell zoram about paste
[06:10] <THX-1138> Ask WINEHQ it is ans act of masochism. - lol
[06:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> b^j, maybe, but its the best way of upgrading, between versions or not
[06:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, <zoram>         Driver      "fglrx" <- you need 'ati'
[06:11] <ladydoor> !paste > zoram
[06:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> if 'ati' lest you open oo.o, then its a working work around ;)
[06:11] <zoram> ok sorry
[06:12] <ladydoor> xenoNfluX: well, free as in beer...it's *definitely* not Free Software
[06:12] <xenoNfluX> harry, I don't know how much help this will be, but this is the first I found
[06:12] <Jaak_> i know it's not recomended but is it possible to write onto a ntfs disk?
[06:12] <xenoNfluX> ladydoor, exactly
[06:12] <cocozz> Hi, I have 2 soundcards but sound is emitted on the first one, how can I change this to emit on the second one ? Thanks
[06:12] <xenoNfluX> I never implied FOSS :)
[06:12] <THX-1138> !ntfs
[06:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:12] <chell> Jaak: It is yes
[06:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> tell Jaak_ about ntfs3g
[06:12] <xenoNfluX> harry, http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/2006040302-msie-on-linux
[06:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Jaak_ about ntfs3g
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <zoram> Kamping_Kaiser, , well I'll try that, but what i don't understand is the solution given on the forum worked but doesn't anymore
[06:12] <harry> xenoNflux: thanks anyway. no wonder other people say M$ sucks.
[06:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> zoram, i havent read it
[06:13] <b^j> Kamping_Kaiser,  thats arguable, its main difference is in installing the "held back" packages and some more advanced dependency stuff.  The held back packages are held back for a reason. (i am originally a debain guy, it may be slightly different in ubuntu)
[06:13] <chell> Hey, has anyone had issues with USB microphones and ubuntu?
[06:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ntfs-3g
[06:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[06:13] <zoram> Kamping_Kaiser,  basically had me replace libgl.so.1.2 by an older version
[06:13] <slipttees> somebody can me informs if ubuntu edgy goes to come with following drive: VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP? , because it always uses vesa driver and the image is bad!
[06:13] <harry> xenoNflux: thanks. how did sproingie got my IP address?
[06:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> b^j, i am a debian/ubuntu bloke as well (hi :)), dist-upgrade tracks dependancies, upgrade just upgrades existing packages (afaik)
[06:13] <THX-1138> ntfs-3g has more than a couple show stoppers for everyday use.
[06:14] <xenoNfluX> harry, do /whois harry
[06:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> THX-1138, what sort of stuf?i'v only heard good thigns so far
[06:14] <kyja> this helpful? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-install-internet-explorer-on-linux.html
[06:14] <THX-1138> Kamping_Kaiser - Filetimes
[06:14] <WillEyedOney> trying to get ubuntu to see my adaptec 1542 scsi card (isa) any ideas? :)
[06:14] <xenoNfluX> did I just see ISA?
[06:14] <xenoNfluX> :D
[06:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> THX-1138, it doestn record them?
[06:15] <WillEyedOney> yep
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> isa=ugly
[06:15] <xenoNfluX> ISA is still in use, wow.... to each their own :)
[06:15] <MrBiggZ> Quick question .. I was trying to di a sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`unname -r` But i was getting that security.unbuntu.com cannot be resolved.  Where else can I get these headers?  Trying unbuntu out for the first time on vmware .. thx
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> xenoNfluX, lol.
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> xenoNfluX, some people still suffer it :(
[06:15] <WillEyedOney> some of remember when isa was the dog bollocks :)
[06:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[06:16] <xenoNfluX> I avoided ISA by being an old school Mac user XD
[06:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> some live in more enlightened times :)
[06:16] <ephemeros> yo
[06:17] <b^j> can someone try to install libgtk2.0-dev? i am having dependency problems and need to build an app asap
[06:17] <THX-1138> KampingKaiser - I know you have seen this. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2697&thread_ida=23836054
[06:17] <ladydoor> MrBiggZ: well, if it says "unbuntu" in your sources.list, there's your problem--the OS is *ubuntu*--there's only 1 n
[06:17] <hantu> b^j: installed it the other day, worked fine.
[06:18] <brainstew> Kamping_Kaiser, it still does not find ubuntulooks and thunar does not start
[06:18] <b^j> hantu, you on dapper?
[06:18] <hantu> b^j: yep.
[06:18] <brainstew> the module is missing.. where can i get it
[06:18] <brainstew> a good repository list for edgy needed?
[06:18] <b^j> hantu, grrr, can you get me the exact version of libpango-1.0-dev you have installed?
[06:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> THX-1138, looking
[06:20] <brainstew> can someone give me good edgy repositories?
[06:20] <hantu> 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 i think, b^j
[06:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, 'good' in what way?
[06:20] <MrBiggZ> ladydoor .. thats just my bad typing .. you cannot ping security.ubunto.com
[06:20] <b^j> hantu i have  1.12.3-0ubuntu3, do you know how i can downgrade
[06:21] <brainstew> Kamping_Kaiser,  which do you use?  i think my list is full of errors or smthn
[06:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, i use my ISP's mirrors
[06:21] <xenoNfluX> I can ping security.ubuntu.com that's ubuntU
[06:21] <hantu> reinstall it? :o
[06:21] <hantu> anyway i gotta run
[06:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, try 'archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse'
[06:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> and add cc. infront if you fee like it
[06:22] <brainstew> what does the cc do?
[06:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> cc means 'country code'
[06:22] <brainstew> :D
[06:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> im' in australia - mines au.
[06:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[06:23] <MrBiggZ> i'ma restart my vhost see what happens .. i can ping it through windows.  Strange becuase the network is working.
[06:23] <buzzy> hello i am from knoppix because my ubuntu does not start anymore!!! i have tried to install nvidia drivers and when i have finished the procedure i hit Ctrl-Alt-Canc...but since then when i boot up my pc (i use floppy boot grub) it stops when saying:"Ok uncompressing linux...ok booting the kernel "  after this appears a black screen and nothing appens or is displayed...help me!!!
[06:23] <chronic1> anyone here know how i can get gdk and gtk+ development headers installed?  i have to have pkg-config find both packages to install a program
[06:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> chronic1, are you trying to recompiole somting in the repositories?
[06:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, have ou tried a different kernel?
[06:25] <buzzy> yes Kamping_Kaiser but it stops when it says: "waiting for root File System"
[06:25] <chronic1> nope -- just trying to compile a video converter for the psp
[06:25] <chronic1> incidently...it uses two things already int he repository....but the deps are compiling fine with a different prefix
[06:25] <eracc> WillEyedOney,  I have never tried to use an ISA card with *buntu. However, I understand that older hardware should still be supported with an "alternate" CD install. To get it working you need the card set for address 330 (default) or 334 and the aha1542 driver.
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, strange
[06:26] <buzzy> yea
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> the ubuntu team have dropped ISA from warty (IE the first release)
[06:26] <buzzy> i have a old graphic card
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> which causes some issues at times, but ISA is the suxor
[06:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, what is it?
[06:27] <eracc> Yet, if one needs ISA support because that is all one has at the moment then one needs to be able to use it.
[06:27] <brainstew> Kamping_Kaiser,  which module handles themes in xubuntu ? i think it needs to be reinstalled
[06:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> eracc, true, but in that case ubuntu is not your ideal distro :)
[06:27] <buzzy> nvidia tnt2 riva model 64 Kamping_Kaiser !!!
[06:27] <eracc> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks for letting me know. ;-)
[06:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> brainstew, i dont know - tried #xubuntu? i'm not familar with it
[06:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> eracc, ;)
[06:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, ah, nvidia-legacy ;)
[06:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> * :)
[06:28] <buzzy> ??
[06:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, you need the nvidia-legacy pacakge
[06:28] <chronic1> Kamping_Kaiser: i might have found my dep problem
[06:28] <voraistos> hey guys. i am having trouble with a new (but old) box. I have an SIS 630 it seems, integrated to the cheap matsonic Mbo. to get Aiglx working, because the graphics are shit, (excuse me, but thats a very optimistic description), i decided to add my old voodoo to the graphic circuit. 2d works, but no nice desktop. Can u help ?
[06:28] <b^j> i am trying to get libgtk2.0-dev installed.  I am having depency problems with libpango.  i need libpango1.0-0=1.12.2-0ubuntu3 installed but i have 1.12.3-0ubunutu3 installed.  when i try to install the older version i get issues with libpango-common claiming to be not installed even though dpkg -l lists it as the exact version i need
[06:29] <b^j> anyone able to help me?
[06:29] <buzzy> Kamping_Kaiser,  yes but now i cant boot from ubuntu
[06:29] <buzzy> !!
[06:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, :( um. have you mounted your ubuntu /etc/ into your knoppix? you can edit the xorg.conf from there :)
[06:30] <sig> whenever I try to apt-get a packge I get an error now
[06:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> b^j, not sure i can, but i'll try
[06:30] <buzzy> what edit can i do?
[06:30] <fadain> sig: what error ?
[06:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, change the Driver from 'nvidia' to 'nv'
[06:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[06:30] <sig> fadain, can I paste in here? or /msg you?
[06:30] <fadain> sig: sure
[06:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> and in /etc/modules you cna remove nvidia from the startup :)
[06:31] <sig> ok one second
[06:31] <fadain> sig: if its a big one /msg me
[06:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> sig, or pastebin and pastebin
[06:31] <buzzy> Kamping_Kaiser,  i already tried that
[06:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, sure you didnt edit anythign else at the same time?
[06:31] <sig> now this error I'm going to paste in here is when I try to get "any" package now
[06:31] <buzzy> hmm quite sure
[06:31] <buzzy> what can i do in modules?
[06:32] <eracc> WillEyedOney, I just asked in ##freebsd if the AHA 1542 is still supported with the latest FreeBSD ... answer - yes. Maybe you need to move to FreeBSD for your AHA 1542 adapter.
[06:32] <buzzy> pls repeit
[06:32] <b^j> Kamping_Kaiser, i run apt-get install -force=yes libpango1.0-0=1.12.2-0ubuntu3 and get libpango1.0-0: Depends: libpango1.0-common (>= 1.12.2-0ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed.  dpkg -l dpkg -l libpango1.0-common gives1.12.3-0ubuntu3 as installed
[06:32] <sig> hmm fadain Kamping_Kaiser never mind it seems to have fixed itself after I did "apt-get autoclean"
[06:32] <sig> nevermind :)
[06:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, you can select modules to load
[06:32] <fadain> sig: good :)
[06:33] <WillEyedOney> eracc, thanks for asking, I'll dump the card and stick it in the spares bin
[06:33] <eracc> WillEyedOney, according to Kamping_Kaiser you are not going to have success trying to use your old ISA adapter with ubuntu.
[06:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> b^j, what happens if you run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and 'sudo dpkg --configure --pending'
[06:33] <WillEyedOney> oh well
[06:33] <MrBiggZ> i'm good .. something must have gotten hung up.  thx for the help!
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> WillEyedOney, it wont be as easy as in other places, but it can probably be made to work
[06:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> odnt ask me how - i avoid the whole bus :)
[06:34] <WillEyedOney> it's an old machine :)
[06:34] <b^j> Kamping_Kaiser, nothing, i don't have any partially installed packages
[06:34] <eracc> I'm thinking it would take a custom kernel to support the ISA since it has reportedly been dropped.
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> custom kernel not sure. ljoadable isa modules may do the job
[06:35] <Knut^essen> hello
[06:35] <m1sh-L> i will format my crypt-device with following command:  sudo mkfs.ext3 m0 /dev/mapper/home but i have an error: mkfs.ext3: invalid blocks count - /dev/mapper/home what can i do???
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> b^j, :(
[06:37] <Knut^essen> i use "tilda" as terminal and there is in the preferences an option for a hotkey. i have set this as "F[$instance+1] " but this works only for the second instance and up. does anybody know why it doesnt work with the first instance?
[06:39] <XnixL> what is the name of the new boot system in edgy, does anyone know?
[06:39] <matid> XiXaQ: upstart
[06:39] <buzzy> Kamping_Kaiser, yesterday one on a channel has suggested me tp dp spmething with GRUB..? ar u agree?
[06:39] <clearzen> I have a problem with my laptop. Anytime I insert a pcmcia card it freezes my entire system.
[06:39] <lebafar> how do I stop a pdbedit command to read?
[06:40] <XiXaQ> matid, beg your pardon?
[06:40] <lebafar> I already tryed |more or >txt.txt but doesnt work.
[06:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> clearzen, file a bug
[06:40] <XiXaQ> oh... :) You were talking to Xnix, weren't you? :)
[06:40] <gean> hi all, today loggin in from a W* OS... i really cannot bring Ubuntu on the HD... CD-ROM detection fails desperately... Cann i install from HD or usb-disk?
[06:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, yes, but it depends what you put in :)
[06:41] <buzzy> Kamping_Kaiser,  so what can i try to do now?
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, can you mount your ubuntu partition?
[06:41] <clearzen> when I drop into a terminal and insert the card it gives me this [17223282.388000]  BUG:soft lockup detected on CPU#0! Does that mean a bug has been filed already?
[06:42] <matid> XiXaQ: Yeah, I was talking to XnixL, sorry :)
[06:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> clearzen, no. it means the system think its a butg :)
[06:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> *bug
[06:42] <matid> XnixL: The new init system is upstart
[06:42] <clearzen> how do I file a Bug?
[06:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> !bug
[06:42] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:42] <buzzy> Kamping_Kaiser,  i m in that partition now
[06:42] <buzzy> :)
[06:42] <buzzy> so?
[06:43] <Sivik> is there a copy of gnomad2>=2.8.5 in any of the repos for ubuntu?
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> buzzy, is 'nvidia' in your /etc/X11/org.conf or /etc/modules
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[06:43] <XnixL> matid: thanks
[06:43] <Dimensions> how can i configure httpd.conf to recognise php ?
[06:43] <echosyp> google it
[06:44] <xenoNfluX> !lamp
[06:44] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dimensions, when you instal lhte php packages it should auto config
[06:44] <kothz> !w32codecs
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <echosyp> canada is gay
[06:45] <echosyp> heh
[06:45] <kothz> Well, we do have lots of track lighting and spiffy dressers up here.
[06:45] <echosyp> heh
[06:45] <kothz> ...but, how's that all related to ubuntu :)
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> brb
[06:46] <rellis> Is there an easy way to go from Ubuntu to Kubuntu ?
[06:46] <rellis> ...or do I need to start over?
[06:46] <xenoNfluX> as far as I know, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:46] <XiXaQ> rellis, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:47] <xamox> how do I manually set the ip address, gateway, etc. from the console. I know about the GUI tools but I want to be able to do it manually so I can do it in ubuntu server
[06:47] <rellis> XiXaQ: That's wayyy too easy..
[06:47] <rellis> I'm looking for something more complicated.
[06:47] <rellis> <--- ex slackware user
[06:47] <Sivik> xamox: to do the ip address its ifconfig ethX ip.ip.ip.ip sub.sub.sub.sub
[06:47] <rellis> =
[06:47] <rellis> =p
[06:48] <Sivik> xamox: and then to set the gateway you have to run a different command, give me a sec to find it again
[06:48] <likewhoa54> slackware?
[06:48] <likewhoa54> lol
[06:48] <rellis> hehe ya
[06:48] <likewhoa54> ;p
[06:48] <kothz> xamox: you can also edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:48] <rellis> just switched like a month ago
[06:48] <xamox> kothz:  thx I think that's what I was looking for
[06:48] <Sivik> xamox: route default gateway dg.dg.dg.dg
[06:48] <likewhoa54> I was using gentoo for a sec....those retard developers changed the format of the network config files on an update
[06:48] <likewhoa54> box = was powered down by a dumbass
[06:48] <XiXaQ> rellis, hehe, install MS Windows. Install VMWare. Install Ubuntu inside of the virtual machine :)
[06:48] <gean> i really cannot bring Ubuntu on the HD... CD-ROM detection fails desperately... Cann i install from HD or usb-disk?
[06:48] <likewhoa54> box boots up and then can't get on network
[06:48] <likewhoa54> "thanks gentoo"
[06:49] <likewhoa54> at least debian/ubuntu keeps network config files the same
[06:49] <kbee> !usb-disk
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb-disk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <Sivik> gean: then you probably didn't burn the cd correctly, what program did you use?
[06:50] <rellis> XiXaQ: hehe
[06:50] <kbee> gean: yes you can install for usb-stick
[06:50] <Sivik> gean: and you did burn as a image and not as a normal file correctly
[06:50] <THX-1138> gean - There are some howots out there for it. - i don't have a link sry
[06:50] <ignotus> hello everybody!  I installed the ubuntu live cd onto a computer with no net connection, is there additional cd downloadable from ubuntu from which I can install more software onto that computer?
[06:51] <kbee> gean:  try this link  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:51] <XiXaQ> ignotus, Programs > Add/Remove
[06:51] <ignotus> XiXaQ: yeah, but I assume that the install installed everything (from the CD), I am looking for MORE programs
[06:51] <THX-1138> !ubotu usbstick is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:51] <XiXaQ> ignotus, sorry. I didn't read. There is a DVD out there.
[06:52] <gean> sivik: i installed from that alternate CD once (someeone others computer)
[06:52] <gean> Sivik: then i also bought a DVD, that came once more to me as i complained..
[06:52] <ignotus> XiXaQ: if I download that DVD and put that into the computer, will the Add/Remove program recognize that and will I be able to install software from the DVD?
[06:53] <XiXaQ> ignotus, yes, you'll use the dvd as the software repository. However, only packages from main and restricted will be available I think.
[06:53] <bondiblue> i am trying to run apt-get upgrade on a server, and get the message "The following packages cannot be authenticated!" I have googled and found some suggestings about gnupg and keyrings, and that didn't really work.  for now I'd just like a way to skip the few packages that aren't authenticated but don't know how to do that from the command line.
[06:53] <Jas-Nix> ignotus: they are available online as well
[06:53] <ignotus> XiXaQ: thank you
[06:54] <XiXaQ> ignotus, you're welcome :)
[06:54] <b^j> debian.org has a way for me to download individual packages from the website, i can'f find anything similar on ubuntu can someone point me to where i might find this?
[06:54] <gean> Sivik: The problems is: the installation starts, then the CD-Rom is not detected, i have to insert modules by hand or telle the floppy what drivers should be insrtalled... but: NO Floppy! (What for, i thought, as i bought the mashine... i have a 300GB storage...)
[06:54] <ignotus> Jas-Nix: that machine hasn't got net connection, but thanks
[06:54] <shriphani> hey can i install debian this way
[06:54] <shriphani> i.e. the usb thingy
[06:54] <Jaak_> can i install ntfs-3g during a live cd session to save some files of a crashed windows session?
[06:55] <shriphani> and someone tell me how to check md5sums
[06:55] <gean> kbee, THX-1138: Thanks , i'll try the link.. gimme some seconds...
[06:55] <Jas-Nix> ignotus: hehe np :)
[06:55] <XiXaQ> Jaak_, that's a very good question. Let's find out.
[06:55] <Jaak_> XiXaQ, do you think so?
[06:56] <Jaak_> shall i use the instruction on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g?highlight=%28ntfs%29?
[06:56] <XiXaQ> Jaak_, yes, think that would be a magnificent tool...
[06:56] <bondiblue> when running apt-get upgrade is there a way to tell it to skip over specific packages?
[06:56] <gean> (oh my ggod... i want that xchat... on linux... i'm coming here through some W* tool that has few colors never stressing my name...)
[06:56] <Jaak_> XiXaQ, just follow those instructions?
[06:56] <shriphani> gean, sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:57] <frojnd> hello
[06:57] <shriphani> !hello
[06:57] <frojnd> how can I search for all .avi files
[06:57] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:57] <ChaosFan> frojnd: find / -name *.avi
[06:57] <shriphani> frojnd, ls ?
[06:57] <XiXaQ> Jaak_, not sure, I'm still downloading the page. Everything is slow here at the moment. :)
[06:57] <gean> shirphani : first sudo apt-get Ubuntu needs to be started (from this Wind* OS...) ;)
[06:57] <sara> sara
[06:57] <sara> fdhndjk
[06:57] <sara> gbk,uj
[06:58] <shriphani> ohh gean you on windows ?
[06:58] <frojnd> ChaosFan I am looking only for .avi
[06:58] <frojnd> not name..
[06:58] <frojnd> couse I don't know the name
[06:58] <shriphani> frojnd, then just find / *avi
[06:58] <EmxBA> hi
[06:58] <Fibbs> Can someone here explain me what to do to get ubuntu edgy beta to run as a DomU in xen? I have the problem that xen is complaining about the glibc (tls nonsegneg) also after moving /lib/tls away.
[06:58] <XiXaQ> Jaak_, that page looks rather empty to me?
[06:58] <EmxBA> which packages should be used for playing flv files?
[06:58] <ChaosFan> frojnd: it is a find command, finding all files matching *.avi, so, all avi files
[06:59] <Fibbs> On some distributions there are methods to configure glibc with some config file but i did not find nothing about this
[06:59] <shriphani> ChaosFan, tell me how to check the md5sum
[06:59] <EmxBA> anyone?
[06:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats flv?
[06:59] <EmxBA> flash video
[06:59] <harisund> Hello! I am at a small network and a Ubuntu box acts as a gateway to the internet for my LAN .. it does NAT and is a DHCP server + firewall. any ideas on how I can block bittorrent in my LAN?
[06:59] <EmxBA> it looks like i need codec for it?
[06:59] <ChaosFan> shriphani: md5sum -c <filename> <.asc-file containing md5sum>
[07:00] <shriphani> ok
[07:00] <xamox> when using /usr/bin/network-admin, what is the host's section for?
[07:00] <Fibbs> harisund: Why not build your small firewall with iptables and something like fwbuilder as gui?
[07:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> harisund, you can block by port or protocol with iptables (soory , no howto handy)
[07:00] <clearzen>  harisund: use iptable and only allow trusted ip/mac addys
[07:01] <harisund> clearzen -- yes, I use iptables, and do use trusted mac. I just don't want my trusted mac addresses to use bittorrent. Fibbs I am using iptables indeed, but I need to know how to stop my user from downloading
[07:02] <shriphani> ChaosFan, theres a file called md5sum.txt
[07:02] <ChaosFan> shriphani: then use that one as second argument
[07:02] <shriphani> so i type md5sum -c debian.iso m5sum.txt ?
[07:02] <ChaosFan> think so
[07:02] <ChaosFan> should work...
[07:02] <Fibbs> harisund: You can only block the known bittorrent ports and hope your users are not very intelligent ;)
[07:02] <harisund> Fibbs, yeah you are right there :)
[07:03] <bondiblue> when running apt-get upgrade is there a way to tell it to skip over specific packages?
[07:03] <shriphani> md5sum:    1058 contrib/binary-i386/Packages: No such file or directory
[07:03] <shriphani>    1058 contrib/binary-i386/Packages: FAILED open or read
[07:03] <shriphani> does that mean the iso i d'loaded is faulty ?
[07:04] <ChaosFan> shriphani: hm, it seems that your md5sum.txt contains more md5sums than just the iso's
[07:05] <shriphani> it says 1846 of 1846 files not found
[07:05] <MadDog011> how do you tell linux what dns server he needs to use to resolve dns?
[07:05] <ChaosFan> then it doesn't contain the iso's md5sum
[07:05] <shriphani> yeh
[07:06] <ChaosFan> MadDog011: write a line saying "nameserver <ip>" in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:06] <XiXaQ> Jaak_, I see no reason why that shouldn't work..
[07:06] <MadDog011> thanx
[07:06] <MadDog011> ChaosFan, didn't know the name of the file :)P
[07:06] <feliciano> Hi there... somebody can tell me, what the best feeds reader???
[07:06] <MadDog011> ty
[07:06] <shriphani> ahhhhhhh debian says cd 1 wont work
[07:07] <ChaosFan> !best
[07:07] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:07] <shriphani> !ubotu
[07:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:07] <shriphani> all knowing ?
[07:07] <tucoz> Hi, i am having problems getting rid of fglrx. When I do apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx I get dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1' with different file `/usr/X11R6/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa', not allowed
[07:07] <ChaosFan> i think that's a joke, shriphani
[07:07] <shriphani> heh
[07:07] <ladydoor> shriphani: no, all-knowing--without the dash it's gramatically incorrect.
[07:07] <THX-1138> !botsnack
[07:07] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:08] <shriphani> i would love adding like a thousand factoids to it lol
[07:09] <THX-1138>   "!ubotu <item> is <item> - Reviewed by ops then added.
[07:09] <ladydoor> THX-1138: with the quote?
[07:09] <shriphani> i wont fiddle with a bot doing service to linux
[07:09] <ian|> Are there any gcc-4.1 packets for ubuntu?
[07:09] <mwtb> I'm trying to compile MythTV 0.20 on Dapper and it requires libqt3-mt-dev, but this package has a dependency on libqt3-mt versioned ubuntu3 and the installed version is ubuntu6. What's the next move here?
[07:09] <shriphani> or serving linux users
[07:10] <THX-1138> ladydoor - don't want to confuse poor amnesiac bot
[07:10] <shriphani> mwtb, should work
[07:10] <ladydoor> THX-1138: haha...fair enough.
[07:10] <mwtb> shriphani: Synaptic won't even let me install the libqt3-mt-dev package without the dependency.
[07:10] <gean> is there any possibility to install Ubuntu out of an other OS (Linux or W*) ? I'm aSKING; SINC
[07:11] <gean> sorry
[07:11] <cedric_> hello all :)
[07:11] <shriphani> umm mwtb sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[07:11] <cedric_> is there a french channel for ubuntu ???
[07:11] <ladydoor> !insstall
[07:11] <shriphani> !fr
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about insstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:11] <ladydoor> !install
[07:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:11] <gean> I'm asking since there seems to be a possibility to usb-disk install from Wind* !"?!
[07:11] <boink> !tell cedric_ about fr
[07:11] <THX-1138> libqt-mt had checksum issues this morning. - installing Opera?
[07:11] <ladydoor> gean: see ubotu's last post.
[07:11] <j0lliyo> lsusb doesn't respond
[07:11] <gean> ladydoor: Thanks!
[07:12] <j0lliyo> nor does ndiswrapper -l
[07:12] <ladydoor> gean: np
[07:12] <j0lliyo> what could be the problem?
[07:12] <cedric_> thx boink ;)
[07:12] <j0lliyo> and modprobe ndiswrapper has the same problem
[07:12] <yemu> hi, does anybody knows a kind of a color picker applet for gnome
[07:12] <j0lliyo> they don't give me any errors
[07:12] <j0lliyo> but just waits
[07:12] <yemu> ?
[07:12] <clearzen> Could anyone give my a link to a good tutorial on rolling your own kernel?
[07:12] <Marc|> hello... can someone help me to set up an internet connection using dsl in ubuntu?
[07:13] <ladydoor> !kernel
[07:13] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:13] <mwtb> shriphani: libqt3-mt is already installed, and on trying libqt3-mt-dev, I get: libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 is to be installed
[07:13] <shriphani> umm i suck at compiling
[07:13] <shriphani> <--------- learning here
[07:14] <Marc|> my prob is... when using the network options it looks like it should be... but the "add" and "delete" tab is missing under "connections"
[07:14] <bondiblue> when running apt-get upgrade is there a way to tell it to skip over specific packages?
[07:14] <yemu> hi, does anybody knows a kind of a color picker applet for gnome, or rather someting like eyedropper tool in gimp
[07:14] <clearzen> Could someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for rolling your own kernel?
[07:14] <ladydoor> clearzen: please look up to ubotu's last post.
[07:15] <ladydoor> !repeat > clearzen
[07:15] <clearzen> thanks
[07:15] <Marc|> my prob is... when using the network options it looks like it should be... but the "add" and "delete" tab is missing under "connections" anyone have an idea what this could be?
[07:16] <yemu> i'm searching for something like colorzilla extenstion but for gnome
[07:17] <Marc|> my prob is... when using the network options it looks like it should be... but the "add" and "delete" tab is missing under "connections" anyone have an idea what this could be?
[07:17] <ladydoor> so does anybody know of a way to prevent sudo from creating ~/.sudo_as_admin_successful? i'm trying to unclutter my home dir.
[07:18] <ladydoor> also, last night, i deleted the .gnome2, .gconfd, & .gnome2-private dirs...now they're back, despite my having uninstalled GNOME
[07:18] <ladydoor> does anybody know of a way to make them go away...permanently?
[07:19] <vanhtu1987> Marc: it happends a few time to me, in several Ubuntu box, along with other minor problems that put me using Ubuntu server ever since. What are you trying to do with network connections ?
[07:19] <myesterious> I cannot solve the problem "Could not load icon
[07:19] <myesterious> Icon 'reboot.png' not found" , Can anyone help me ?
[07:19] <mcphail> ladydoor: i presume they will be rebuilt if you run a gnome app
[07:19] <Marc|> i just want to add a connection as a dsl dial in
[07:20] <ladydoor> mcphail: oh dear...how irritating. i bet it was gnumeric that did it...it's one of the few graphical programs i'm forced to use.
[07:20] <Marc|> so it doesnt help me that it offers a modem dial in
[07:20] <vanhtu1987> have you Googled yet ?
[07:20] <gean> well my problem seems not to be singular (in the www) and i cannot find it anywhere in the Ubuntu world... OK, i'm just reportin': My laptop is a prmitive mashine having all i need: 4USB, (no floppy,) good display and sound. it has a simple BIOS, Master is Samsung 80GB, and Slave is a DVD-ROM. No more HDD or CD-roms. When i BOOT from the desktop-install+live-CD(or DVD) i get frozen at the f2nd point of live setting up the system: namely: muounting fs. And i c
[07:20] <mcphail> ladydoor: why the stress? Is your space extremely limited?
[07:20] <ladydoor> mcphail: no, i'm just OCD and try to have the fewest things possible.
[07:21] <gean> Booting from the alternate CD gives me a little more chance to play with ALFF2, but no real help..
[07:21] <mcphail> ladydoor: :)
[07:21] <ladydoor> it's tru
[07:21] <ladydoor> e
[07:21] <Marc|> i have googled... also used forum... the point is: in the help it always shows those tabs... if i could add a connection i guess it would be easy...
[07:21] <MR> hey i have a problem with my ubuntu! and am actually a beginner... whenever i insert a cd my system  hangs and there is no option other than restarting it can any one help me????
[07:21] <gnomefreak> bitchslapper: please change you nick
[07:21] <Marc|> but i just dont know why it doesnt show me the option to add a connection
[07:21] <gean> This was my report. This is the reason why many friends resigned installing Ubuntu and put the other distribution that worked with their configurated hard
[07:22] <Marc|> thats true gean
[07:22] <likewhoa54> anyone know how to get vnc to run on the :0 session, I'd liek to be able to setup these client machines for remote support
[07:22] <Marc|> its way TOO restricted sometimes
[07:22] <likewhoa54> i.e. when a user logs in, I want to be able to connect to their desktop session not another xorg session
[07:22] <main2> gnomefreak: ur too demanding
[07:23] <Marc|> suse linux for example is much more easy to configure
[07:23] <likewhoa54> Marc|: if you want easy use a mac/windows
[07:23] <likewhoa54> linux isn't about easy (yet)
[07:23] <main2> ^^
[07:23] <Marc|> and beyond that... it DOES what i want if i answer a question in any way.
[07:23] <likewhoa54> ubuntu is bringing it closer...
[07:23] <ChaosFan> Marc|: then why don't you use suse?
[07:23] <main2> ^^
[07:23] <Marc|> my
[07:24] <Knut^essen> marc i disagree you, i used suse for a year until the day before yesterday..
[07:24] <main2> he is moaning about ubuntu, because he keeps repeating he's problem
[07:24] <main2> and nobody helped him yet
[07:24] <Marc|> is it too much asked that IF install ask me a question it simply DOES what i answer?
[07:24] <Mortice> Marc|: suse is easier to configure if you want to do things exactly the way the suse devs want you to. :)
[07:24] <Knut^essen> and xubuntu is much more easier than suse.. thats my meaning
[07:24] <Marc|> otherwise it doesnt means sense to ask
[07:24] <Mortice> but this is getting offtopic.
[07:24] <likewhoa54> anyone know how to get vnc to run on the :0 session, I'd liek to be able to setup these client machines for remote support
[07:24] <likewhoa54> i.e. when a user logs in, I want to be able to connect to their desktop session not another xorg session
[07:25] <j0lliyo> yeah help me with my ndiswrapper problem instead
[07:25] <Chamuco> I asked this before but again if anyone could help with this so I formated an ext3 partition to reiser by accident is there a way to recover my files?
[07:25] <gean> Marc| Suse also failed to detect the CD-Rom! (Same bought PC-WELT 10 Linux distrib. DVD...) I use now FC5 (fedora) and have to join pacific words consciently when installing new packages with yum! It takes 10 minutes to put one package on the HD and asks 10 repositories for that job...
[07:25] <vanhtu1987> Marc: I think that was the problem with the default GNOME toolkits, I've reported a few of them a several months ago, but I'm using the Server version now.
[07:25] <Marc|> the point is: if it asks me "do you want to be able to log on as root... as i want it for whatever reason... then it should DO it... otherwise not ask it
[07:25] <ChaosFan> Chamuco: i don't know of a way...
[07:26] <Chamuco> someone mentioned to google something like superblock someone else said e2f...
[07:26] <THX-1138> Chamuco - yes there is a way. - Penguin Sleuth kit - You have near guru status
[07:26] <gean> Chamuco: All u can do is to try some live CD, see what remained in the specified partitions... but i'm afrain: nothin'
[07:26] <MR> hey i have a problem with my ubuntu! and am actually a beginner... whenever i insert a cd my system  hangs and there is no option other than restarting it can any one help me????
[07:26] <MR> pls do help me
[07:26] <MR> !
[07:26] <THX-1138> Chamuco - It is difficult
[07:27] <Marc|> vahtu: so you think the server version could help?
[07:27] <vit> hy all
[07:27] <Chamuco> well whoever mentioned superblock said resier only formats the start so if I have not written in that partition the rest of the files should be somewhat intact?
[07:27] <vit> :)
[07:27] <vanhtu1987> no ;) but it doesn't ask you some silly questions, you'll have to do all of them by hand, which is also a good experience
[07:28] <MR> hey i have a problem with my ubuntu! and am actually a beginner... whenever i insert a cd my system  hangs and there is no option other than restarting it can any one help me????
[07:28] <Marc|> i personally like that more i may say
[07:28] <gnomefreak> !repeat
[07:28] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:28] <vanhtu1987> Currently I's using Ubuntu server for day-to-day work but Linux From Scratch, it was really fun :)
[07:28] <gean> by the way: is it possible to specify some option like hdb=cdrom for the install DVD ? (Is it so or linux hdb=cdrom or so...)
[07:29] <Chamuco> THX-1138: so the penguin sleuth kit with that what should I look for?
[07:30] <THX-1138> Chamuco - Linux Forensic Tools
[07:31] <vanhtu1987> Marc: give it a shot, the server version is just the desktop version minus the default GNOME GUI
[07:31] <gean> MR : try to see what is in that /cdrom or /media/cdrom (sudo bash in a terminal and u're the boss there... Take care, if u're a beginner with that #) If these directories are not there this may be a reason... Then look in the boot configuration, there shuold be also some cdrom.. entry...
[07:31] <brainstew> Kamping_Kaiser: hey.. where could i get better repos for dapper ?
[07:31] <vit> is there anybody from moldova/romania ?
[07:31] <brainstew> can anyone give me the improved list of dapper repos ?
[07:32] <soeki> hello,  can someone tell me how can I unrar files on ubuntu
[07:32] <mwtb> I'm trying to install libqt3-mt-dev, but apt-get returns: "libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 is to be installed". Any ideas on how to get around this?
[07:32] <THX-1138> !rar
[07:32] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:32] <vit> mde...
[07:32] <brainstew> THX-1138: : hey.. where could i get better repos for dapper ?
[07:32] <soeki> !info unrar-free
[07:32] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[07:32] <MR> gean: will do that
[07:33] <kbee> soeki:  if you mean untar    execute   tar -xvf  tarfile
[07:33] <soeki> no
[07:33] <brainstew> !repo
[07:33] <soeki> i mean rar
[07:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:33] <THX-1138> brainstew - I am very conservative - not the one to ask. - ripping 100g of wma lossless to ogg as we speak.
[07:33] <soeki> as in rar format.
[07:33] <graveson> which command or tool could i use to rename multiple files
[07:33] <Khales> Servus
[07:34] <vanhtu1987> graveson: you could try The Linux Tools Summary at TLDP.org
[07:34] <Khales> kann mir wer helfen? ich habe ein problem mit meiner ubuntu installation.
[07:35] <THX-1138> !de
[07:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:35] <ChaosFan> Khales: geh bitte in ubuntu-de ;)
[07:35] <MR> gean: but my system hangs as soon as i insert the cd into the disc!!! so no chance for anything!!!!
[07:35] <vanhtu1987> I'm not sure about the name, but it's refered as 'mass rename' or something
[07:35] <ubutom> Khales: /join ubuntu-de
[07:35] <surekha> hi all! I need some quick suggestions regarding a laptop
[07:35] <Xzekution> I've got a problem with my Ubuntu clock, I dual boot and when I logon to Ubuntu the clock is 1hr off - and then when I logon to WinXP the clock will be 1hr of too.. every time
[07:35] <Khales> thx, ChaosFan
[07:35] <surekha> I want to buy a laptop with ubuntu as my OS
[07:36] <surekha> the configuration I am looking for is Compaq  Presario V3029AU Portable
[07:36] <surekha> AMD64Bit  Dual Core Processor TL-50
[07:36] <feross> surekha: just make sure it has nvidia video
[07:36] <vanhtu1987> Xzekution: did you set the clock in Ubuntu be local time ?
[07:36] <THX-1138> surekha - If you have the choice of nvidia graphics or ati choose nvidia.
[07:36] <bretzel> I think there is a bug with GMT offset: I am in GMT -5 and when chossing my local time by city, it shows GMT -4:00 :-)
[07:37] <THX-1138> !hardware
[07:37] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:37] <BrunoUV> hey.. someone know how can i configure a network between me and 2 other window pcs??
[07:37] <surekha> MD64Bit  Dual Core Processor TL-501.60 GHz/80 GB SATA / 512 MB  PC2-4200 DDR2 (533 MHz) / 8X SuperMulti Drive  Double Layer (8.5 GB) DVD Writer / 14.1" Colour TFT; BrightView(tm)  WideScreen / Intel PRO/ Wireless LAN / All-In-One Card Reader / Bluetooth  / Modem / 10-100LAN / NVidia Geforce Graphics / DOS 
[07:37] <surekha> It does have NVidia
[07:37] <GreenCult> BrunoUV, use Samba
[07:37] <Stormx2> Guys, I'm compiling GAIM. What SSH package do I need for MSN to work?
[07:38] <ChaosFan> BrunoUV: that depends on what you want to do with those windows-pcs
[07:38] <surekha> anything else that I should look for
[07:38] <surekha> ?
[07:38] <davehat> amd 64 + ati mobility = :(
[07:38] <BrunoUV> ive already tried it.. it doesnt work ... it asks for a password.. but i didnt configure any pass...
[07:38] <fm> hi
[07:39] <GreenCult> i have a presario 2140 with AMD Athlon, Ati video and Ubuntu work ok..
[07:39] <THX-1138> suekha - Nice machine :)     (careful about pasting a lot of text in channel)
[07:39] <vanhtu1987> BrunoUV: what is the version of your WIndows boxes ?
[07:39] <BrunoUV> ChaosFan, I need that they can acess my files..
[07:39] <fm> I have mysteriously lost DRI with my GeForce Go 7300
[07:39] <fm> what can I do?
[07:39] <ChaosFan> BrunoUV: then you need samba
[07:39] <kbee> isnt MSN a bad word on this channel  :)
[07:39] <surekha> thank THX-1138 and sorry about my long text
[07:39] <BrunoUV> vanhtu1987, WinXp
[07:39] <sobres> hello
[07:40] <davehat> has anyone experienced a problem getting the latest beryl package?
[07:40] <MR> hey i have a problem with my ubuntu! and am actually a beginner... whenever i insert a cd my system  hangs and there is no option other than restarting it can any one help me????
[07:40] <vanhtu1987> BrunoUV: samba sould work then, or else you can configure your WIndows as a FTP/HTTP server
[07:40] <THX-1138> fm - Take a peek at your xorg.conf sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  is dri loaded in the modules section?
[07:40] <sobres> how can I do so the programs send RAM memory usage to swap when minimized?
[07:40] <davehat> I added the repo, but I get an error: Couldn't find package beryl
[07:40] <fm> THX-1138: it is
[07:40] <Chm0d> has anyone installed the nvidia drivers and still has no direct rendering?
[07:41] <sobres> similar to this Firefox trick: config.trim_on_minimize
[07:41] <ChaosFan> BrunoUV: do you have "guest ok = yes" in your share's options in /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[07:41] <kbee> MR: a little more detail please
[07:41] <THX-1138> sobres - may of misunderstood your question. 2 things can help   "man nice" and a google for "linux swappiness"
[07:41] <vanhtu1987> Bruno: Can the two Windows boxes share file to each other ?
[07:41] <BrunoUV> ChaosFan, wait .. ill check it..
[07:41] <THX-1138> !es
[07:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:42] <fm> Chm0d : I have the same problem
[07:42] <Chm0d> hmm
[07:42] <Chm0d> bummer
[07:42] <fm> Chm0d : Yesterday it worked though, but today its gone
[07:42] <davehat> in synaptic, the only pkg showing is beryl-plugins-data
[07:42] <Chm0d> same here LOL
[07:42] <SupremacyGnu> Hello, I was wondering if there's any good ISO, CUE, BIN, IMG etc mounting program with a GUI? The thing is that I need to mount multiple ISO files and CD swap with those ISOs. I've just found Kiso- But it doesn't support to mount multiple ISOs atr the same time.
[07:42] <Chm0d> worked fine yesterday
[07:42] <MR> kbee: so simple!! when i boot my ubuntu with a cd in it it hangs!! and not a single command works!!! the moment i insert a cd or a dvd the system hangs!!!!
[07:42] <fm> there's been an X update I think
[07:42] <sobres> linux swapiness ? ok ok  tnx tnx
[07:42] <fm> maybe thats why..
[07:43] <Chm0d> how do i remove the existing nvidia drivers?
[07:43] <THX-1138> Chm0d - Did you enable a shared folder on ubuntu and lose ability to see shared folders on other mmachines? - "" ditto same here.
[07:43] <Chm0d> no i didn't
[07:43] <optimusprime> hmmm...how do you run "adesklets" using xubuntu.....
[07:43] <soeki> !info rar
[07:43] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:43] <kbee> MR: the system hanging is an installed ubuntu system
[07:44] <sobres> ubuntu-es is death :(  sniF
[07:44] <MR> kbee: couldnt get u
[07:44] <THX-1138> sobre - todo la gente ha muerido?
[07:44] <SirKillalot> can someone show me a example web app made with mono?
[07:44] <SirKillalot> or some other in c#
[07:45] <holoton2> is it possible to view QTVR in Ubuntu?
[07:45] <sobres> THX-1138:  yep. all muertos :( sniF
[07:45] <davehat> (beryl problem) when I run sudo apt-get update, it seems to ignore(?) one of the main repos: Ign http://xgl.compiz.info dapper/main Packages
[07:45] <kbee> MR: you have an installed ubuntu system that hangs when you insert any cd correct
[07:46] <sobres> I found that swappiness stuff ^^ checkin out 
[07:46] <MR> kbee: yes ur right
[07:47] <kbee> MR: the instant you close the cd tray or after the cd is spinning up
[07:47] <MR> kbee:after the cd is spinning
[07:47] <brandonadsf> !ati
[07:47] <Chm0d> i have uninstalled the nvidia drivers
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <Chm0d> think im goin to try the beta drivers
[07:47] <mbvo> I'm trying to use vnc and it's giving me: libstdc++-lib6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory...how do i fix this?
[07:47] <pwn> !nvidia
[07:47] <pwn> !nvidia
[07:47] <pwn> !nvidia
[07:48] <kbee> MR: sounds like automount is the problem are you familiar with console windows
[07:48] <vanhtu1987> mbvo: make sure you've got that package intalled
[07:48] <macsim> I suppose it's not possible to install a lexmark x2450 on ubuntu ?
[07:48] <macsim> printer is too young ?
[07:48] <MR> kbee: am just a beginer... can u tell me what i should do?
[07:48] <luis_lopez> SirKillalot: http://www.splendidcrm.com/ is a CRM written in c# I believe
[07:49] <holoton2> anyone have any experience getting qtvr working in ubuntu?
[07:49] <kbee> MR: ok you did use the same cd to install ubuntu correct
[07:49] <MR> yes
[07:49] <MR> kbee: yes i did!!!!
[07:50] <THX-1138> sobre - not exactly what you asked pero command line    alias='nice -args command -args'
[07:50] <Chm0d> whats the link to the nvidia beta drivers?
[07:50] <kbee> MR: the mouse locks up also
[07:50] <MR> kbee: yes!!
[07:50] <luis_lopez> is swap disabled by default in Edgy?
[07:51] <mbvo> I can't, nether libstdc++ or lib6.2-2.so.3 are in the list of packages and libstdc++-lib6.2-2.so.3 isn't ether
[07:51] <jrib> luis_lopez: no, I don't think so, but edgy questions should be in #ubuntu+1
[07:52] <luis_lopez> thanks jrib, I'll ask there
[07:53] <kbee> MR: the automounter is probably giving you problems I cant help u there because i am currently running suse however the question to ask here is 'how do i disable the automounter' and someone should give you the answer
[07:53] <kbee> !automount
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <kbee> !automounter
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automounter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <kbee> !subfs
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <Sp4rKy> !seen monzie
[07:54] <sobres> THX-1138:  Ill try this: sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10 (default =60)
[07:54] <ubotu> I haven't seen monzie recently
[07:54] <MR> how do i disable the automounter! can anyone help me?
[07:54] <kbee> someone pls tell MR how to disable the automounter
[07:54] <fredl> Hmmm, seems I bought myself a printer that even the internet doesn't know about yet :P
[07:54] <THX-1138> sobre - Okay.
[07:54] <sobres> ^^
[07:54] <Ekushey> !ping me
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <netG> hi
[07:58] <Jimmey> Hey, I've got Ubuntu installed on the master hard drive in my machine, and would instead like to have it installed on the slave - I can't be bothered fiddling with jumper pin settings, so make the second drive ext3, and move the / of the first drive onto the second, and then boot from it?
[07:58] <sorush20> hi .. why I try to install kubuntu I keep getting the error kernel panic
[07:58] <sorush20>  any ideas what I can do PIE error
[07:59] <holoton2> Does anyone know anything about viewing Quicktime VR panoramas inside of Firefox in Ubuntu?
[07:59] <khermans> does anyone know how i can take many physical machines and combine all resources into one virtual machine?
[08:00] <MR> how do i disable the automounter! can anyone help me?
[08:00] <haffe> khermans: It's called beowulf cluster
[08:00] <khermans> haffe, but does that share devices like hard drives and nic cards?
[08:00] <haffe> No, I don't think so.
[08:00] <khermans> haffe, only cpu/mem right
[08:01] <haffe> Yes.
[08:01] <kbee> MR: a suggestion abandon the  !!!!    they annoy some folks and they will ignore your questions
[08:01] <khermans> haffe, hrmmm
[08:01] <sobres> ok. done. tnx a lot THX-1138  ^^  bye
[08:01] <kbee> MR: just ask the question and sit back and relax it may not get answered on this try
[08:02] <Knute> how can i use opera 9 on my x86:64 pc?
[08:02] <Knute> theres only a 32 bit version
[08:02] <MR> kbee: ok
[08:03] <phummer> This seems like a really dumb question, but God bless Linux distros that do everything for you...  I'm a Debian user taking Kubuntu for a spin.  I put a typo in my /etc/sudoers on accident (meaning I can't sudo now), and the root password is not my user password.  What is it?  I'm using the Edgy rc1
[08:04] <Xzekution> anybody know how to fix my ubuntu/winxp clocks always being wrong
[08:04] <brainstew> the main problem seems to be getting the hz rate to normal.. i need 1024x768@120 .. how can i do it.. modeline sb?
[08:05] <wikijeff> Is there a way I can stop the gnome network manager applet from running at startup without uninstalling it?
[08:05] <Jimerson> Hello everyone
[08:06] <popeey> have any ubuntu users looked at this bug report yet? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=241005
[08:06] <bertugolu> hey, con someone tell me how to edit permissions?
[08:06] <Wulfie> hey folks - I am having problems setting up my sound in Kubuntu - its an intel 82801g HDA card - I read a forum post that suggests I need to add a module option - but I don't know where to do that in ubuntu - any help?
[08:07] <jenda> I need a little help burning CDs. So far, there seems to be absolutely no way to burn CDs in my edgy (didn't work in dapper either). Brasero always fails on 'fixating' (internal error). Gnomebaker fails as well - CDs behave as empty ones.
[08:07] <brainstew> THX-1138, Kamping_Kaiser - the main problem seems to be getting the hz rate to normal.. i need 1024x768@120 .. how can i do it.. where can i get a modeline.. most of the modelines i have put there do not seem to work?
[08:07] <holoton2> phummer: the default root pass is by default just blank, afaik
[08:07] <Jimerson> I just installed ubuntu yesterday and I am having two problems: the first is that my cursor goes very slow when using the touchpad, but is normal when I plug in a USB mouse. The second is that my airport card is not connecting to my wireless network.
[08:07] <constantine-xvi> bertugolu: right-click in nautilus, properties, permissions
[08:07] <jenda> In fact, they physically look empty as well.
[08:07] <phummer> holoton2, Hm, doesn't look like it.  I do a 'su' and it just tells me it failed.
[08:07] <jrib> phummer: reboot and choose recovery mode from the grub menu, you can't login to root with a blank password by default
[08:07] <bertugolu> ok
[08:07] <Wulfie> jenda: did you try k3b?
[08:07] <holoton2> not su
[08:07] <Wulfie> jenda: I have never had a problem with it myself
[08:07] <holoton2> phummer: password for root
[08:07] <jenda> Wulfie: should I in Gnome?
[08:08] <holoton2> phummer: not for su
[08:08] <Wulfie> jenda: no reason why you shouldn't
[08:08] <bertugolu> no....the ones that i cannot edit, the one that i am not the owner of...
[08:08] <Knute> hey, isnt theere any possibillity to use the 32 bit version of opera on my 64bit pc?
[08:08] <jrib> phummer: by the way, are you using visudo to edit your sudoers?
[08:08] <jenda> Wulfie: ok, will try.
[08:08] <phummer> holoton2, Wait, so you're telling me it's TWO DIFFERENT PASSWORDS for root and the 'su' command
[08:08] <jenda> I use amarok with no prob.
[08:09] <phummer> jrib, nope, never visudo
[08:09] <jenda> so I guess k3b should be ok
[08:09] <bondiblue> when running apt-get upgrade is there a way to tell it to skip over specific packages?
[08:09] <jrib> phummer: you should use visudo, it will check your syntax
[08:09] <mdalcazar> hola
[08:09] <bertugolu> How can i edit the permissions of the file that i am not the owner of?
[08:10] <Jimerson> I think I found the driver, it is a .dmg file, but I don't know how to install it.
[08:10] <odyssevs> Is there an apache1.3 to apache2 conf conversion script anywhere? Or even a default conf? Half the stuff from 1.3 doesn't seem to work on 2.
[08:10] <jrib> bertugolu: become the owner, or become root
[08:10] <phummer> jrib, it's usually not a big deal, because I've always got root. Never needed to reboot and all this crap...
[08:10] <ChaosFan> y/wg 30
[08:10] <lebafar> How do I add a user in the unix password database on Ununtu?
[08:10] <lebafar> *Ubuntu, sry!
[08:10] <Knute> hey, isnt theere any possibillity to use the 32 bit version of opera on my 64bit pc?
[08:10] <bertugolu> how can i become root?
[08:10] <jrib> ubotu: tell bertugolu about sudo
[08:11] <lebafar> bertugolu, you can use sudo.
[08:11] <bertugolu> but what do i type in terminal?
[08:11] <odyssevs> No one got an apache2 conf they can share? =)
[08:11] <jrib> phummer: you can always set a root password if you prefer it.  Ubuntu's policy is just to prefer that users use sudo and disable logging into the root account
[08:12] <bertugolu> odyssevs: you want to upgrade from apache 1.3 to apache 2.0?
[08:12] <sts9>  what can I do about this error message when installing amule? :diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.xmule.1.gz by amule' clashes with `diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/ed2k.xmule.1.gz by amule-utils'
[08:12] <sorush20> these are the key words that I see when I try  to install kubuntu or ubuntu any help please ?
[08:12] <sorush20> not syncing bad EIP killing init kernel panic kubuntu
[08:13] <THX-1138> "As we enjoy great Advantages from the Inventions of others we should be glad of an Opportunity to serve others by any Invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." Benjamin Franklin.
[08:13] <bertugolu>  odyssevs: you want to upgrade from apache 1.3 to apache 2.0
[08:13] <bertugolu> ??
[08:13] <Wulfie> can anyone tell me how to add an option to a kernel module?
[08:13] <Jaak_> i hate windows
[08:14] <phummer> jrib, *sigh*  I've been using Ubuntu for four days now, and it seems that if I actually want to customize things, it's not really worth using Ubuntu.  Ubuntu just seems to be for non-technical and/or lazy people
[08:14] <bondiblue> when running apt-get upgrade is there a way to tell it to skip over specific packages?
[08:15] <odyssevs> bertugolu, nevermind, so many changes I'll just read the manual.
[08:15] <bertugolu> ok
[08:15] <Xzekution> I need some help :(
[08:15] <bertugolu> Ask
[08:15] <Xzekution> my ubuntu clock always messes up my winxp clock
[08:15] <lebafar> I am trying to add a usr on smbpasswd file with sudo smbpasswd -a -m userName but it tell me Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user userName$. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database? Could someone comment it please?
[08:15] <Xzekution> they are both 1hr off evertime i logon to ubuntu
[08:16] <phummer> Xzekution, is the BIOS password set correctly?
[08:16] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - im having problems with bluetooth on etch, i keep getting call_passkey_agent() not agent registered - any ideas?
[08:16] <Xzekution> um.. i dont have a password on my BIOS
[08:17] <phummer> Super_Cat_Frog, etch?  HAHA!  I'm a Debian user too!  Wrong channel though.
[08:17] <Super_Cat_Frog> phummer: sorry, edgy, not etch
[08:17] <phummer> Xzekution, sorry, was typing password in another window, I meant clock.
[08:17] <phummer> BIOS clock set correctly?
[08:17] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - im having problems with bluetooth on edgy, i keep getting call_passkey_agent() not agent registered - any ideas?
[08:18] <Jimerson> I have a question.
[08:18] <bondiblue> hi all, when running apt-get upgrade is there a way to tell it to skip over specific packages?
[08:18] <bertugolu> Does someone have a knowledge in php?
[08:18] <mwtb> I'm trying to install libqt3-mt-dev, but apt-get returns: "libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 is to be installed". Any ideas on how to get around this?
[08:20] <Super_Cat_Frog> bertugolu: yes
[08:20] <Jimerson> Anyone able to help me install an airport card driver from a .dmg file?
[08:20] <Super_Cat_Frog> bertugolu: im a php dev, whats your problem?
[08:20] <SportChick> iwn 34
[08:20] <Xzekution> phummer: how do I set my BIOS clock, do all computers have them ?
[08:20] <Super_Cat_Frog> bertugolu: (to clarify, i write in php, i dont write php)
[08:20] <bertugolu> Let me paste something in the paste bin
[08:21] <Xzekution> If I go into my BIOS will I be able to find it, or is it a special command I have to type in to get it to come up
[08:21] <shwag> In MySQL Administrator, when I click on Uer Addministration, it just locks up with the message at the bottom  Retreiving data from MySQL...
[08:21] <Super_Cat_Frog> shwag: goto mysql and type in show processlist;
[08:21] <Wulfie> can anyone tell me how to add an option to a kernel module?
[08:21] <eracc> Where can one get webmin for *buntu? I use webmin (mostly) to configure my servers. I tried 'apt-get install webmin' and got the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25594/
[08:21] <Jimerson> Is there an irc channel designed for getting help with the PPC distribution?
[08:21] <shwag> Super_Cat_Frog: ok
[08:21] <bertugolu> see this super_cat_frog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25595/
[08:22] <shwag> Super_Cat_Frog: to processes in state NULL
[08:22] <shwag> two
[08:22] <bertugolu> and it is giving me this error
[08:22] <Super_Cat_Frog> shwag: no idea then, sorry
[08:22] <cybernout> eracc, first add universe and multiverse
[08:22] <bertugolu> Parse error:  syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/www/uploads.php on line 7
[08:22] <cybernout> maybe its in there...
[08:22] <shwag> Super_Cat_Frog: and these is a clean install...default setup.
[08:23] <cybernout> i got phpmyadmin from these, wich works fine with my server
[08:23] <sorush20> my memtest68 goes all fuzzy and odd .. I think I have loads of errors on my mem?
[08:23] <bertugolu> did u see it super_cat_frog?
[08:23] <sorush20> how do I do A mem test please?
[08:24] <Ninkasi> Are today's updates (openssh) completely fubar? My X crashes when I click to show a description of the update.
[08:24] <Super_Cat_Frog> bertugolu: im looking now
[08:24] <bertugolu> oki
[08:24] <phummer> Xzekution, yes, all computers have them.  Go into BIOS and you'll see your time there.  Make sure that's correct.  Windows will read off the BIOS time, and Ubuntu might be messing with it, or vice versa.
[08:24] <Super_Cat_Frog> shwag: no idea, that should show something, if its supposed to be doing something
[08:24] <cybernout> with the live cd , there is an option for mem test
[08:24] <Ninkasi> What's with all the broken updates lately?
[08:25] <soeki> !info unrar
[08:25] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:25] <soeki> !info rar
[08:25] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:25] <kothz> Wulfy: you can pass options to modules using the /etc/modules file
[08:25] <michiel_> Hi everybody
[08:25] <Chm0d> anyone know the path of the kernel-source for ubuntu?  I am trying to install the beta drivers for nvidia and thats the error I get.  I know they are installed.
[08:25] <michiel_> I've got a question. During an update, my laptop lost power. Now I can't get into my graphical shell.
[08:25] <michiel_> Is there any way I can fix this?
[08:26] <odyssevs> Apache2: The port number "http://www.aviation.org.uk/" is outside the appropriate range (i.e., 1..65535).
[08:26] <michiel_> I'm talking via BitchX now so I'll have to log out to be able to check anything, though.
[08:26] <odyssevs> I have the 'ServerName http://www.aviation.org.uk' set in the httpd.conf
[08:26] <odyssevs> Any clues here?
[08:26] <Ninkasi> Can anyone else read the description of the openssh updates without X crashing?
[08:26] <Super_Cat_Frog> bertugolu: thats odd. when i get something like that, i seperatate out the line thats being odd, onto as many lines as possible, so it tells me where the problem is, eg: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gKfkUU19.html
[08:26] <kothz> Odyssevs: do you have the port number set to anything?
[08:27] <grandy> Hello!  I am wondering if anyone knows when the last Ubuntu release to feature a 2.4 kernel on the livecd was?
[08:27] <Super_Cat_Frog> odyssevs: your just supposed to have ServerNAme aviation.org.uk, rather than http://.......
[08:27] <bertugolu> ok i got u i will try it 10x
[08:27] <odyssevs> kothz, 'Listen 80' is set above, yes.
[08:27] <michiel_> Would it be easier to just nuke this installation and reinstall from the CD? I don't have many vital files on this laptop.
[08:28] <Chm0d> michiel_: try sudo --reconfigure xorg.conf i think its something like that
[08:28] <nysosym> hi all :)
[08:28] <Super_Cat_Frog> michiel_: try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:28] <jvai> hey uall, in bermuda by way of the carribean cruises(explorer of the seas), in an internet cafe, by eth0, the ship's connection sukk's.. it's dial up, & it's IE only, it doesnt work with firefox...
[08:28] <michiel_> Chm0d: I will try that, while it's really probably a bigger problem than just xorg.
[08:28] <nysosym> Hi everybody :)
[08:28] <michiel_> -f install?
[08:28] <Chm0d> :O
[08:29] <michiel_> Hi nysosym :)
[08:29] <michiel_> (Msikma from Ubuntu-art)
[08:29] <Super_Cat_Frog> michiel_: that will finished a failed install
[08:29] <michiel_> Aha
[08:29] <grandy> hello:  I'm wondering if anyone knows the last version of Ubuntu use a 2.4 kernel for the livecd...
[08:29] <michiel_> I will go try that right now. Thanks.
[08:29] <nysosym> michiel_: how are u? :)))
[08:29] <zmo> hi
[08:29] <michiel_> now... just gotta figure out how to quit BitchX...
[08:29] <hackwood> http://know-ledge.net/~itek/
[08:29] <Chm0d> anyone know the path to the kernel source files?
[08:29] <eracc> Hmmm, I have universe and multiverse sources already checked, still no webmin. Does *buntu not offer webmin at all?
[08:29] <Super_Cat_Frog> michiel_: try /exit
[08:29] <zmo> is there some kind of howto that deals with modprobe.d and how modules are loaded ?
[08:29] <nysosym> i have modified my emblems, anyone would see that? :D
[08:29] <awk> hello please can somebody tell me what is wrong with this string .. /usr/bin/logger -adsx | grep -Ev ^PROGRESS: |^STATUS:^$ > $CHECK_LOG
[08:29] <soeki> . /exit
[08:30] <Ninkasi> Can anyone else read the description of the openssh updates without X crashing?
[08:30] <Super_Cat_Frog> soeki: you can do /say /exit
[08:30] <Super_Cat_Frog> /exit
[08:30] <Super_Cat_Frog> like that
[08:30] <odyssevs> Super_Cat_Frog, thanks. I see there's no default document root, am I expected to set it?
[08:30] <soeki> /cool
[08:30] <odyssevs> DocumentRoot /var/www, or something
[08:30] <zmo> I got some problems loading sound modules (got 2 soundcards)
[08:30] <bertugolu> super_cat_frog, can you paste the code, that you didvided in many lines pls
[08:30] <kothz> eracc: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/admin/webmin
[08:30] <bertugolu> ?
[08:30] <Super_Cat_Frog> odyssevs: there *has* to be a documentroot, but it might be set elsewhere
[08:30] <zmo> and by the way, / /thing is enough
[08:30] <kothz> er hoary?  sec
[08:30] <zmo> /hello
[08:30] <Super_Cat_Frog> bertugolu: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gKfkUU19.html
[08:31] <zmo>  / /hello
[08:31] <eracc> kothz, thank you.
[08:31] <kothz> hrm - doesn't look like there's a dapper package for it
[08:31] <eracc> kothz, yeah, I'm on Dapper. ;-(
[08:31] <awk> Please can somebody help me with the string!!!!!
[08:31] <awk> /usr/bin/logger -adsx | grep -Ev ^PROGRESS: |^STATUS:^$ > $CHECK_LOG
[08:31] <awk> what is wrong with this?
[08:31] <awk> how do I grep 2 instances and pass it to $check_log
[08:32] <bertugolu> but is that the one you edited?
[08:32] <bm0nk> After a lot of time spent uninstalling/reinstalling/configuring my usb WG121(v2) card, Ubuntu can now see it as eth1....Im not using DHCP, I've turned WPA-PSK off on my router...my card sees the SSID (netgear) - yet ping requests/internet doesn't work....I've tried gnome-network-manager - it sees my network - and tries to connect...but doesnt..and doesnt give me an error message..any ideas? :s
[08:32] <Super_Cat_Frog> odyssevs: here's a bit from my apache config: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ACpVKT36.html
[08:32] <awk> I allwas just get bash: ^STATUS:^$: command not found
[08:32] <zmo> awk -  /usr/bin/logger: invalid option -- a
[08:33] <zmo> awk - one thing
[08:33] <awk> zmo: I have it installed
[08:33] <awk> ?
[08:33] <zmo> instead of screaming/crying
[08:33] <zmo> you should correct stupid things
[08:33] <Super_Cat_Frog> awk - your missing a grep after the pipe after progress
[08:33] <zmo> like using a pipe without quotes
[08:33] <Senesence> Is there a nice GUI for the vim code editor, or is this something that has to be ran from within the bash?
[08:33] <grandy> hello:  I'm wondering if anyone knows the last version of Ubuntu use a 2.4 kernel for the livecd...
[08:33] <jatt> Senesence: gvim
[08:33] <awk> what stupid things?
[08:33] <Super_Cat_Frog> Senesence: kvim?
[08:33] <zmo> /usr/bin/logger -adsx | grep -Ev ^PROGRESS: |^STATUS:^$ > $CHECK_LOG => /usr/bin/logger -adsx | grep -Ev "^PROGRESS: |^STATUS:^$" > $CHECK_LOG
[08:34] <eracc> Hmm, webmin is in Breezy too. But not in Dapper nor in Edgy. Ack! :-(
[08:34] <Senesence> jatt: I searched for gvim in synaptic and I got nothing.
[08:34] <awk> ahhh
[08:34] <awk> thank you zmo, let me try that.
[08:34] <shwag> Anyone know what is up with MySQL Administrator ?
[08:34] <shwag> doesn't work.
[08:35] <Juhaz> Senesence, it's packaged as vim-gnome
[08:35] <Super_Cat_Frog> shwag: run strace on it, see if its trying to hit a non-existant socket
[08:35] <kothz> eracc: there's an ubuntu/debian type package for webmin at www.webmin.com
[08:35] <Senesence> Juhaz: Ahh, I see thank you very much sir.
[08:36] <eracc> kothz, hrm, ok. I was trying to stick with "official" stuff. But I need my webmin. :-)
[08:36] <awk> zmo: sorry, been asking everyone I knew I was doing something wrong, I over looked using the quotes.. thanks for completing my striing.
[08:37] <odyssevs> Super_Cat_Frog, I'm very tempted to revert to apache1.3. Any sane reasons not to?
[08:37] <raulmg> hi, anyone knows how purge a broken pakage instalation?, some file to edit, aptitude can remove it.
[08:37] <amee2k_> is there a small and fast program to create 2D and 3D graphs of numeric data supplied in CSV files? (no, i already tried OOo Calc but that eats too much CPU time for effective deployment)
[08:38] <jatt> amee2k_: gnuplot
[08:38] <Super_Cat_Frog> odyssevs: i cant remember apache1.3, im sure there's a good reason to use apache2, i just cant remember what it is
[08:39] <Super_Cat_Frog> odyssevs: did you restart apache (apache2ctl restart)
[08:39] <odyssevs> Super_Cat_Frog, these configs are cracking me up. apache2 -t says syntax is ok, yet starting says fail.
[08:39] <Super_Cat_Frog> odyssevs: whats the error?
[08:39] <odyssevs> None.
[08:39] <Super_Cat_Frog> odyssevs: sudo tail /var/log/apache2/error.log
[08:39] <dekup> hi how can i learn my kernel has a mtrr support?
[08:39] <amee2k_> jatt: sounds interresting, will try. ty
[08:40] <Super_Cat_Frog> dekup: if your using stock Ubuntu, it should, mtrr hardware is present more advanced than a toaster
[08:40] <bm0nk> After a lot of time spent uninstalling/reinstalling/configuring my usb WG121(v2) card, Ubuntu can now see it as eth1....Im not using DHCP, I've turned WPA-PSK off on my router...my card sees the SSID (netgear) - yet ping requests/internet doesn't work....I've tried gnome-network-manager - it sees my network - and tries to connect...but doesnt..and doesnt give me an error message..any ideas? :s
[08:40] <Super_Cat_Frog> bm0nk: have you set the default route?
[08:41] <Super_Cat_Frog> bm0nk: ive done that before
[08:41] <bm0nk> default route?
[08:41] <Super_Cat_Frog> im having problems with bluetooth on edgy, i keep getting call_passkey_agent() not agent registered - any ideas?
[08:41] <Super_Cat_Frog> bm0nk: yes, default route - it might in an advanced tab in your network config app - i use kubuntu, so i dont know what gnome uses
[08:42] <bm0nk> Super_Cat_Frog : just my luck...im on gnome :s
[08:42] <Super_Cat_Frog> bm0nk: its the ip of the next hop, such as the router
[08:42] <bm0nk> well..gateway address
[08:42] <unimatrix9> name some real nice linux games
[08:42] <Super_Cat_Frog> bm0nk: it'l be in there somewhere
[08:42] <bertugolu> how can edit permissions of files that arent mine
[08:42] <bertugolu> ?
[08:42] <bm0nk> my gateway address is set.... (192.168.0.1)
[08:42] <Super_Cat_Frog> unimatrix9: solitaire
[08:42] <unimatrix9> hmm, i dont know that one is it cool?
[08:42] <Super_Cat_Frog> bertugolu: boot into single user mode and chmod them as root
[08:42] <bm0nk> lol
[08:42] <unimatrix9> is that not the one on vista too?
[08:43] <unimatrix9> :)
[08:43] <bertugolu> how can i do that
[08:43] <unimatrix9> name some real nice linux games...
[08:43] <Super_Cat_Frog> bertugolu: not sure how you do it with grub - google for "grub single user mode"
[08:43] <unimatrix9> who dares?
[08:43] <Super_Cat_Frog> unimatrix9: americas arey
[08:43] <Super_Cat_Frog> *army
[08:43] <bertugolu> oki
[08:43] <theacolyte> I'm having a problem figuring out what to do here. Have an Inspiron 9400 with an NVIDIA 7900GS in it. I want to use an external monitor with it, and I'll never use the built in display while in the office. Anyone have a good idea on how to do that?
[08:43] <kothz> World of Warcraft is my favourite game on linux :)
[08:44] <maboc> Hi all, which package should I apt-get to get the manpages for the function-calls in stdlib (like fork....)?
[08:44] <BazziR> kothz :)
[08:44] <unimatrix9> these are top games thats for sure...
[08:44] <Super_Cat_Frog> theacolyte: have a look on gentoo-wiki - the documentation for stuff like that on there is great, and most of the info on there is relevant on any distro
[08:44] <unimatrix9> a bit lower on the grafics ( 16 mb ati )
[08:45] <Super_Cat_Frog> unimatrix9: kasteroids?
[08:45] <jenda> Wulfie: k3b is even worse: it terminates immediately, but creates the filesystem on the CD.
[08:45] <Super_Cat_Frog> unimatrix9: perl?
[08:45] <jenda> So...
[08:45] <theacolyte> Yeah,  I'll take a look. Looks like I'll be using TwinView and not Xinerama... it's just making my head spin
[08:45] <Wulfie> jenda: weird
[08:45] <unimatrix9> ubuntu , is gnome ...so kastriods is not a  real choice is guess
[08:45] <jenda> I need a little help burning CDs. So far, there seems to be absolutely no way to burn CDs in my edgy (didn't work in dapper either). Brasero always fails on 'fixating' (internal error). Gnomebaker fails as well - CDs behave as empty ones. k3b creates the filesystem, but exits after the first megabyte (have log).
[08:46] <kothz> heh -- on a 16 mb ati, my favourite game would be: telnet pern.mccr.org 4201
[08:46] <unimatrix9> perl, hmm, scripting my own games rright?
[08:46] <Super_Cat_Frog> kothz: heh
[08:47] <THX-1138> !ubotu irssi is A command line interface IRC client. irrsi -c irc.freenode.org  Pick a "/nick name" Then "/join #ubuntu" - No desktop no problem. Nerdy fun.
[08:47] <Blinker_> I have a dell laptop with an svid-out in back that I would like to set up for use - is anyone familiar with this process?
[08:47] <kaur> after waking up from suspend or hibernation, my laptops fan keeps turning on and off all the time. Or maybe it's on all the time but it just spins harder sometimes. What should i do to make it work normally?
[08:48] <kothz> omg my pern account is still around!
[08:48] <kaur> please help! it's an awful waste of battery...
[08:48] <maboc> I just try it again :-) Hi all, which package should I apt-get to get the manpages for the function-calls in stdlib (like fork....)?
[08:49] <theunruled> Hello everyone. How do you add a batter indicator in Fluxbox?
[08:49] <Stormx2> kaur: Check the hardware page on the wiki.
[08:49] <theunruled> battery for laptops
[08:49] <awk> who uses qmail here?
[08:49] <theacolyte> is the BusID completely necessary for dual monitors?  I don't have it currently
[08:49] <Stormx2> who uses awk here?
[08:49] <Stormx2> ^_^
[08:50] <unimatrix9> acpi -t will show temp and status in console
[08:50] <grub_booter> Stormx2: very occasionally...
[08:50] <Super_Cat_Frog> maboc: libstd++-doc ?
[08:50] <kothz> % acpi -t: "No support for device thermal"  You lie.
[08:51] <Stormx2> Thats what I got!
[08:51] <maboc> Super_Cat_Frog, Super I will give it a try immediately. tnx
[08:51] <kaur> what module is responsible for the regulation of fan's work?
[08:51] <unimatrix9> hmm, ok, sorry then
[08:51] <Stormx2> kaur: You might want to ask that on ubuntuforums.org, no one seems to know here.
[08:51] <unimatrix9> Battery 1: discharging, 61%, 01:54:47 remaining
[08:51] <unimatrix9>      Thermal 1: ok, 44.0 degrees C
[08:51] <unimatrix9> thats what i got
[08:51] <theacolyte> that's a nice battery life
[08:51] <kaur> damn
[08:52] <Stormx2> kaur: Search the forum too.
[08:52] <Stormx2> kaur: You aren't by any chance a teacher?
[08:52] <kaur> i think that the module isn't properly loaded after suspend/hibernation
[08:52] <anon32> I've got a question that might seem a little obvious
[08:52] <kaur> no
[08:52] <kaur> why do u ask?
[08:52] <jAvierder> hi
[08:53] <Stormx2> ah OK. Had a teacher called Miss Kaur. i thought it an unusual name.
[08:53] <anon32> My machine is set up to dualboot WinXP and Ubuntu, but I don't think I need my WinXP install anymore
[08:53] <anon32> how would I go about removing it?
[08:53] <THX-1138> Is the app for fan control called "fan" - lol -shouldn't that be an acronym or something?
[08:53] <anon32> can I just delete it, or is there something else I have to do?
[08:53] <kothz> anon32: just ignore it.  the moment you remove it, you'll need it :)
[08:53] <Stormx2> anon32: Repartition I guess.
[08:53] <jAvierder> one question, which package should i reinstall to reinstall all mono packages?
[08:53] <Stormx2> anon32: Only if you need the space, mind.
[08:53] <segfault> kaur, iirc its acpi_fan
[08:53] <Stormx2> anon32: You can always take it out the grub list if you really object to it ^__^
[08:53] <anon32> Stormx2: I do, will I need to edit grub or something?
[08:54] <kaur> ok
[08:54] <Stormx2> anon32: Nah, you need to use gparted, I guess.
[08:54] <kaur> i have an idea now
[08:54] <Stormx2> anon32: Basicly remove the windows partition and enlarge your ubuntu partitions(s)
[08:54] <shwag> Super_Cat_Frog: found known bug
[08:54] <anon32> Stormx2, mm, when I deleted my Ubuntu partition, grub freaked out
[08:54] <kaur> i'l try it and tell u if it worked
[08:54] <anon32> so I was wondering if the same would happen if I removed my Windows partition
[08:54] <Stormx2> anon32: It would
[08:55] <Stormx2> anon32; Thats because /boot is on the ubuntu partition, and GRUB needs that to load
[08:55] <Senesence> ladydoor: Do you remember me?
[08:55] <ladydoor> Senesence: yup. what's up?
[08:55] <anon32> Stormx2, ok, so grub doesn't have any config files I need to edit?
[08:55] <spocky> hi
[08:55] <cavediver> hi.
[08:55] <Arcad3> hi
[08:56] <theunruled> hi, how do i get conky to show battery?
[08:56] <Senesence> ladydoor: Hey, I have some problems with my alacarte editor and I think it's the python 2.5 installation that you helped me install thats making a mess.
[08:56] <cavediver> I'm testing my bw with a program called axel. But how do I save to /dev/null ?
[08:56] <Stormx2> anon32: No. Windows XP will stay in the list, but if you try to boot it, it won't work. Therefore you can edit it out the list. Before or after partitioning, it doesn't matter.
[08:56] <Senesence> Senesence: Should I uninstall
[08:56] <anon32> Stormx2, where's the config at? what I need to change?
[08:56] <groove> hello
[08:56] <ladydoor> Senesence: you did keep your old python, right? with the divert step?
[08:56] <Consty> How can you enable ANSI art in terminal?
[08:56] <Stormx2> anon32: Hold on...
[08:57] <Senesence> ladydoor: Yes I used the diver just like you told me.
[08:57] <kothz> just be wary of the root (hd0,1) lines in menu.lst (for example)
[08:57] <Stormx2> anon32: Its is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:57] <Stormx2> anon32: You'll need to use sudo to edit it, but I guess you know that
[08:57] <groove> are there anyone using edgy?
[08:57] <anon32> ok
[08:57] <SurfnKid> edgy no, wedgy yes
[08:57] <Stormx2> groove: #ubuntu+1
[08:57] <ladydoor> Senesence: in that case, your programs (such as alacarte) should know where to find your python, in theory. i know that someone in here yesterday was having problems with alacarte. is it giving you specific error messages?
[08:58] <anon32> will I be able to edit it directly, or is there some weird utility?
[08:58] <theacolyte> Has anyone made a reliable GUI x.org configuration utility?
[08:58] <ladydoor> groove: no, that's what #ubuntu+1 is for
[08:58] <groove> what's wedgy
[08:58] <Stormx2> anon32: Directly. Its a text file
[08:58] <groove> ok
[08:58] <Stormx2> anon32: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:58] <groove> thx you all
[08:58] <Senesence> ladydoor: Yes this: Details: Failed to execute child process "alacarte" (No such file or directory)
[08:58] <Stormx2> Senesence: sudo apt-get install alacarte
[08:58] <ladydoor> anon32: but first back it up! sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak
[08:58] <Stormx2> Senesence: I think...
[08:58] <wodz> hello, what is the 'data flaw', I mean what is happeninghello, what is the 'data flaw', I mean what is happening when pendrive is inserted?
[08:58] <anon32> will I have to unmount my Windows partition?
[08:59] <Senesence> Stormx2: It's already installed.
[08:59] <Chrisn[A] > if i have a computer with ubuntu and one with windows will i be able to print something from my ubuntu computer to my windows computero over the network?
[08:59] <Stormx2> anon32: Thats a good idea.
[08:59] <phal1> hi
[08:59] <Stormx2> Senesence: Then I don't know, sorry
[08:59] <wodz> first comes udev to create device and what comes next
[08:59] <ladydoor> Senesence: do this:  locate alacarte | grep bin
[08:59] <Stormx2> anon32: Unmount, and take it out your /etc/fstab
[08:59] <ladydoor> Senesence: does it return anything?
[08:59] <heze> hi all, i'm running dapper and am having trouble setting up a bridge (eth0 - eth1) with ifupdown. anyone familiar with this stuff able to help me?
[08:59] <Stormx2> anon32: If I were you, I'd think this over. If there are any files you need in that windows partition, you won't be able to recover them after this
[08:59] <anon32> ok, I'll have to wait for my files to finish backing up then
[09:00] <THX-1138_> Chrisn - yes select "windows printer" from the drop down menu in system admin printing.
[09:00] <Chrisn[A] > ah cool :D
[09:00] <FunnyLookinHat> heze, why are you setting up a bridge?  You could just use network-manager
[09:00] <phal1> i am trying to compile my wifi card's driver but it my dapper keeps saying: nothing to be done for 'all', what can i do for this?
[09:00] <user-land> What is the easiest way to recursively look for a file in a directory ?
[09:00] <Senesence> ladydoor: /usr/bin/alacarte
[09:00] <Chrisn[A] > just wanted to check before i installed it
[09:00] <kothz> user-land: find . -name filename
[09:00] <Stormx2> heze: I bet you're hacking on a game XD
[09:00] <anon32> Stormx2, I was only keeping it for the files, the install is damaged
[09:00] <rod_> hi, i searched on the web a bit for this question... Is there like a minimum boot cd which grabs the latest installatino files from de web?
[09:00] <Stormx2> anon32: I see.
[09:00] <wodz> user-land: find /dir -name "*name*"
[09:00] <FunnyLookinHat> he totally iz!
[09:00] <ladydoor> Senesence: try starting it in a terminal, using the full path (so /usr/bin/alacarte would be the command to run)
[09:00] <THX-1138_> Chrisn - It shoud already be installed and avail.
[09:01] <ladydoor> Senesence: does that spit out errors? if so, to pastebin!
[09:01] <SeanTater> Someone seems to be scanning my web server looking for something, daily or even more often. They are looking for some php chat software or something, but I cannot block them because each scan comes from a new IP, but the same domain. What do I do?
[09:01] <user-land> thanks wodz.
[09:01] <phal1>  i am trying to compile my wifi card's driver but it my dapper keeps saying: nothing to be done for 'all', what can i do for this? thanks
[09:01] <Senesence> ladydoor: I got this: bash: /usr/bin/alacarte: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory.  What do you mean by paste bin?
[09:01] <heze> stormx2, nah not really :)
[09:01] <ladydoor> !paste
[09:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:01] <user-land> is there a gui file browser that features an easy find function too ?
[09:01] <ladydoor> Senesence: but don't worry about pasting that. i was expecting something longer.
[09:01] <anon32> SeanTater, close and hide the port
[09:01] <heze> funnylookinhat, hmm, wonder what "network-manager" is..
[09:02] <Senesence> ladydoor: Ok
[09:02] <ladydoor> Senesence: ok, do this:  file /usr/bin/python. what does it return?
[09:02] <Stormx2> heze: Liar =)
[09:02] <brainstew> im so pissed off right now im going to trash my computer.. how do i get this damn xubuntu to 1024x768 @ 120 hz.. IT CAN GET THiS RATE and it shows 800x600@75 .. WTF???
[09:02] <Acidic32> http://huggy.mrmoss.net/phpsysinfo/
[09:02] <kothz> SeanTater: in a .htaccess put the line deny from somedomain.com?
[09:02] <SeanTater> anon32: something where I can keep my webserver --
[09:02] <Senesence> ladydoor: bash: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory
[09:02] <heze> stormx2, i want to firewall my windows computers in a central location :>
[09:02] <ladydoor> Senesence: then do the same for /usr/local/bin/python
[09:02] <Acidic32> how comes its not detecting my processor speed properly?
[09:02] <FunnyLookinHat> heze, network manager is a system tray applet that makes connecting to networks and seamlessly changing between them MUCH easier, with an emphasis on helping for wireless network connectivity
[09:02] <Stormx2> brainstew: Dude, reconfigure X
[09:02] <SeanTater> kothz: um-- okay
[09:02] <brainstew> Stormx2,  how?
[09:02] <SeanTater> kothz: I;ll try that
[09:03] <bertugol1> Listen I did an upload link in my server but all the files that i receieve, i dont have permissions to open them, how can i open them
[09:03] <Stormx2> brainstew: Give me just one minute, kay?
[09:03] <Stormx2> brainstew: I'll find out...
[09:03] <brainstew> k
[09:03] <anon32> brainstew, first, you need the best drivers for your graphics card
[09:03] <anon32> what model do you have?
[09:03] <phal1> i don't know how things work here but should i repeat my question until i get an answer or what?
[09:03] <Senesence> ladydoor: that returns the python 2.5 version info
[09:03] <Acidic32> http://huggy.mrmoss.net/phpsysinfo/ how comes its not detecting my processor speed properly?
[09:03] <kaur> Is the solution provided here:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html safe? Will the fan turn itself on when need be?
[09:03] <brainstew> nvidia gf 4 440 or smthn
[09:03] <soeki> !info dvd
[09:03] <ubotu> Package dvd does not exist in any distro I know
[09:03] <awk> zmo: could you help me with 1 last thing?
[09:04] <anon32> !nvidia
[09:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:04] <ladydoor> Senesence: it's a symbolic link, right?
[09:04] <kaur> Is the solution provided here:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html safe? Will the fan turn itself on when need be?
[09:04] <soeki> can I play dvd movies on ubuntu?
[09:04] <bertugol1> Someone please help me
[09:04] <bertugol1> Listen I did an upload link in my server but all the files that i receieve, i dont have permissions to open them, how can i open them
[09:04] <phal1>  I am trying to compile my wifi card's driver but it my dapper keeps saying: nothing to be done for 'all', what can i do for this?
[09:04] <THX-1138_> !restrictedformats
[09:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:04] <Senesence> ladydoor: Yea, I think. Just says python version and that it was compiled with the GCC etc
[09:04] <FunnyLookinHat> bertugol1, you probably need to reset the permissions on the directory you are uploading to
[09:05] <bertugol1> the permission of the folder is 777
[09:05] <spocky> hi
[09:05] <Stormx2> brainstew: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - then restart X, and try changing the resolution. if it doesn't work it'll revert in 15 seconds. That means you need better drivers.
[09:05] <anon32> speaking of resticted formats, why the hell does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats recommend transcoding lossy formats?
[09:05] <ladydoor> Senesence: would you do it again (file /usr/local/bin/python) and then paste what exactly it says?
[09:05] <ladydoor> !language
[09:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:05] <kaur> Is the solution provided here:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html safe? Will the fan turn itself on when need be?
[09:05] <anon32> and even worse, why the hell would anyone recommend transcoding MPEG-4 to Theora?
[09:05] <phal1>  i am trying to compile my wifi card's driver but it my dapper keeps saying: nothing to be done for 'all', what can i do for this? thenks .
[09:05] <Stormx2> anon32: I saw that today, wierd eh?
[09:05] <phal1> thanks*
[09:05] <bertugol1> but the files in it i dont have permissions to open them, is there any comand from the terminal to change permissions of files?
[09:06] <awk>   if [-s $CHECK_LOG ]  then
[09:06] <awk>       /usr/bin/mail  -s fcheck \
[09:06] <awk>       `hostname` test@blah.org  < \
[09:06] <Stormx2> phal1: Are you trying to do make or something?
[09:06] <awk>       $FCHECK_LOG
[09:06] <awk>       /bin/rm $FCHECK_LOG
[09:06] <awk>   fi
[09:06] <ladydoor> bertugol1: chmod changes permissions, chown changes owner
[09:06] <Senesence> ladydoor: Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 20:27:15) [GCC 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)]  on linux2
[09:06] <awk> what is wrong with this, its complaining about fi
[09:06] <phal1> yes i am trying to compile a bunch of files with 'make all'
[09:06] <bertugol1> how can i chane the owner?
[09:06] <mistraal> chown
[09:06] <wodz> bertugol1: chown
[09:06] <kothz> bertugol: sudo chown bertugol1 /some/path/to/files/*
[09:06] <bertugol1> emm get it from synpatic?
[09:07] <bertugol1> ok 10x
[09:07] <midnight> hello need help please
[09:07] <ladydoor> bertugol1: as i said, use chown. as it says at the very top of the manpage, chown user:group file
[09:07] <brainstew> Stormx2,  select desired X server driver.. whats that?
[09:07] <Stormx2> awk: DOn't paste
[09:07] <kothz> bertugol: but you should find a way to set a umask to make the files readable for you on an ongoing basis
[09:07] <Stormx2> brainstew: Just hit enter
[09:07] <bertugol1> ok
[09:07] <Stormx2> brainstew: The current selection is highlighted by default
[09:07] <Chrisn[A] > 8gb on cd?
[09:07] <bertugol1> i will try sudo chown bertugol1 /some/path/to/files/*
[09:07] <brainstew> doesnot go away
[09:07] <ladydoor> Senesence: weird. it *should* be a link. please do ls /usr/local/bin. what color is python?
[09:08] <phal1> what do you suggest? stormx2
[09:08] <heze> is there something wrong with the following in /etc/network/interfaces: "iface br0 inet dhcp \n bridge-ifaces eth0 eth1" ?
[09:08] <MrWok> Hi
[09:08] <Stormx2> phal1: Are you following a guide?
[09:08] <Senesence> ladydoor: Oh sorry forgot the "file" :/usr/local/bin/python: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, not stripped
[09:08] <midnight> im using a dapper under a 6600GT nvidia im trying to load the nvidia-agp modules but its the agpgart modules that i can see in the cat
[09:08] <brainstew> Stormx2,  nothings highlighted.. list of words there and it keeps telling me to select desired x server driver
[09:08] <heze> that is actually almost a copy&paste from an example and it doesn't work, i can manually build a bridge with brctl tho.
[09:08] <spocky> hello. I'm trying the eft-beta, but suddenly after the latest updates my comp hangs completely on /etc/init.d/gdm restart in singleuser-mode and in normal mode I get nothing too. my xorg.conf is here http://phpfi.com/159913 and my /var/log/X.org.0.log is http://phpfi.com/159914. Does anyone know whats wrong with eft here?
[09:09] <_stippi_> hi
[09:09] <Stormx2> brainstew: Pfft, I'm lost. Sorry
[09:09] <brainstew> fk
[09:09] <_stippi_> can someone recommend a zippy editor for programming purposes? I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general
[09:09] <brainstew> i hate this bug of linux
[09:09] <ladydoor> is it possible to keep ~/.gnome2, ~/.gnome2_private, ~/.gconfd, & ~/.sudo_as_admin_successful from regenerating themselves after i delete them?
[09:09] <midnight> need to load that damn nvidia-agp module..
[09:09] <kothz> I (heart) emacs.  It's all the zippy I need. :)
[09:09] <Stormx2> brainstew: its not a bug.
[09:09] <ladydoor> Senesence: ok. just a second
[09:09] <phal1> i am following a guide for installing rt61 wifi drivers but i cant use 'make' for anything. not just this
[09:09] <Stormx2> brainstew: and it has nothing to do with linux
[09:09] <ladydoor> kothz++
[09:09] <brainstew> wtf.. always the display problem at install :\
[09:09] <Senesence> ladydoor: Ok
[09:10] <madewokherd> _stippi_: I'm not sure what zippy means, but, uh, gedit
[09:10] <mathias__> hi. i've just upgraded dapper to edgy and it wont recognise my sound-card anymore (creative labs soundblaster x-fi). any ideas?
[09:10] <Stormx2> brainstew: You need to reconfigure your X server, and if that doesn't work, get better drivers.
[09:10] <midnight> no one for help?..
[09:10] <StAfZe6> hi
[09:10] <phal1> when i try do 'make something.c' it says nothing to be done for it
[09:10] <b0ef> ehlo; helping a friend with restarting some torrent files after a reboot; where does the default bittorrent client store the torrent meta files?
[09:10] <kothz> !nvidia
[09:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <StAfZe6> you tell me ;)
[09:10] <_stippi_> madewokherd: gedit is not zippy at all on my 1.5 GHz Centrino
[09:10] <phal1> doing*
[09:10] <kothz> midnight: the best place to start is at that URL (type !nvidia to get it again)
[09:10] <spocky> edgy used to work till the updates today, but know I'm pretty stuffed
[09:10] <_stippi_> I would like a GUI editor, function popups would be nice
[09:10] <ladydoor> Senesence: ok, first, do you remember whether you used the steps ./configure, make, sudo make install to install it or whether it was with some python installer thingy?
[09:10] <midnight> !nvidia
[09:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:11] <midnight> kothz: i KNOW how to install my driver dude
[09:11] <midnight> i just need a tips on a tweak
[09:11] <anon32> are the ATI drivers better than the defaults in Ubuntu (strictly in terms of functionality)?
[09:11] <Senesence> ladydoor: It was by your instructions step by step from source, yes all the steps, we went through them.
[09:11] <Stormx2> midnight: What was the problem?
[09:11] <ladydoor> Senesence: ok, just a sec, then :-)
[09:12] <midnight> Stormx2: well im trying to get the fast writes options=yes
[09:12] <_stippi_> is there another channel for newbies like me?
[09:12] <Stormx2> midnight: Ah
[09:12] <mistraal> does anyone get "Button Label|" on some buttons in settings manager in Xubuntu?
[09:12] <midnight> but its always the agpgart driver who is loaded
[09:12] <midnight> !!
[09:12] <anon32> *ChanServ removes channel operator status from ompaul - geez, is there any other kind of operator?
[09:12] <rambo3> _stippi_ only #windows
[09:12] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Here is fine ^.^
[09:12] <_stippi_> rambo3: he
[09:13] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Ignore rambo3
[09:13] <ompaul> anon32, it is the easy way to do things :)
[09:13] <wikijeff> Do intel integrated graphics cards require drivers and setup? Or should they just work automatically?
[09:13] <Stormx2> rambo3: And its actually ##windows
[09:13] <mcquaid> hello, can the text installer be run from the live cd? or is only the gui installer available?
[09:13] <Stormx2> _stippi_: What do you need help with?
[09:13] <spocky> thx allot
[09:13] <spocky> whoever told me about the display driver thing...
[09:13] <xav_> wikijeff, should work
[09:13] <_stippi_> Stormx2: do you recommend any GUI editor for programming? Gedit doesn't even scroll small source files smoothly
[09:13] <midnight> when im doing a cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[09:13] <Stormx2> mcquaid: The Live CD functions as an installer now. The text-only installer is considered the alternative
[09:13] <spocky> with fgrlx it works now
[09:14] <rambo3> Stormx2 yeah ok , like who gives
[09:14] <midnight> i have Driver:          AGPGART
[09:14] <spocky> I sort of lost the overview, I'm on irssi at low resolution
[09:14] <midnight> Fast Writes:     Disabled
[09:14] <mcquaid> Stormx2, yes I am aware the live has the gui installer, I'm asking if it has the text installer as well
[09:14] <anon32> speaking of integrated graphics, what exactly do they do? is it just a fancy word for software rendering?
[09:14] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Hmm. I use bluefish for my web programming work. I think theres one called scite? or something like that? I quite like that. Theres always your command-line text editors too
[09:14] <wikijeff> xav_: well should I be able to run any 3d games? Right now even the most basic 3d game runs at less than 1 fps. I'm pretty sure on windows this was not the case.
[09:14] <spocky> quit
[09:15] <ladydoor> Senesence: you still there?
[09:15] <Stormx2> _stippi_: I run a 1.4ghz processer, are you sure you're not running some huge apps? How much ram do you have?
[09:15] <Senesence> ladydoor: yep
[09:15] <xav_> wikijeff, performance are supposed to suck hard, but it shouldn't be that bad
[09:15] <_stippi_> Stormx2: scite? Ok, let me google that one
[09:15] <ladydoor> Senesence: and do you still have the source? (if no, please go download it).
[09:15] <ochosi> hi, i have serious cdrom problems. some cds are readable, others just display strange icons and symbols
[09:15] <Senesence> ladydoor: Ok , just a sec
[09:15] <Volvo> Bye All
[09:15] <wikijeff> xav_: performance on linux or performance for intel integrated graphics?
[09:15] <Stormx2> _stippi_: yeah, the package is called skite. sudo apt-get install skite. You might like it, I found it nice.
[09:15] <ochosi> i tried a lot of configs with fstab, but that doesn't change much
[09:16] <_stippi_> Stormx2: I have 512 MB, nothing else running, not even firefox, just a terminal and gedit, and it is dog slow, I find Ubuntu in general pretty slow, (I'm comming from BeOS, though).
[09:16] <Senesence> ladydoor: Got it
[09:16] <_stippi_> Stormx2: thanks
[09:16] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Thats a little odd. You might consider running xubuntu
[09:16] <anon32> ochosi: Disc drive model, age and type of CDs, and surface quality of CDs
[09:16] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Open a terminal and use gnome-system-monitor. Anything acting up?
[09:16] <Chrisn[A] > hey cydermaster
[09:16] <ladydoor> Senesence: ok, so put the source in some out-of-the-way dir (i've got a dir called misc in my home dir, and in misc i have an src dir where that stuff goes, personally)
[09:17] <ochosi> anon32: laptop dvdrw combo drive, original diablo2 cds, no scratches
[09:17] <THX-1138_> StormX - grab another metapackaged desktop from an ubuntu repository.. no muss no fuss.
[09:17] <Senesence> ladydoor: Already there
[09:17] <ladydoor> Senesence: and then cd to it and do sudo make uninstall
[09:17] <Stormx2> _stippi_: But yeah. xubuntu uses XFCE, which is another desktop environment like GNOME, except its more lightweight.
[09:17] <ladydoor> Senesence: then do make clean && make distclean
[09:17] <ladydoor> Senesence: and then we're going to re-install it in a not-as-bad place
[09:17] <ochosi> anon32: the strange thing is, if i change the mount-option in fstab to "auto" i can read the game and video-cd, if i use "noauto" i can read the install-cd
[09:18] <Senesence> ladydoor: Will it matter if there are 2 files in the dir (the tgz)?
[09:18] <_stippi_> Stormx2: gnome-system-monitor has the highest CPU load just displaying the bar, around 18-25 %.
[09:18] <ladydoor> Senesence: what do you mean?
[09:18] <Stormx2> _stippi_: I'd expect that. RAM?
[09:18] <_stippi_> Stormx2: 512MB
[09:18] <Senesence> ladydoor: well there is the zipped version of the source package. Is it okay if it stays there or do I have to move it?
[09:18] <anon32> ochosi: hmm, oh yea, do your CDs have any weird DRM schemes on them?
[09:18] <Stormx2> _stippi_: I meant usage from programs
[09:18] <_stippi_> Stormx2: 16 megs ATI Mobility M6
[09:19] <ochosi> anon32: what are DRM schemes?
[09:19] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Did you make a swap partition when you installed ubuntu?
[09:19] <ladydoor> Senesence: uhhh...just cd into the unzipped dir and then do all that. you can remove the gzipped source package once you've unpacked it, if you want.
[09:19] <xav_> wikijeff, both
[09:19] <Senesence> ladydoor: or do you want me to cd into the source package (python-2.5) itself
[09:19] <nysosym> i have a short question, i have here ca.300kb data i will send to the mailing list of ubuntu (artwork) is this possible?
[09:19] <_stippi_> Stormx2: yes, and the RAM seems not the problem, only 25% used,
[09:19] <ladydoor> Senesence: yes
[09:19] <xav_> wikijeff, it possibly sucks more on linux, but there isn't a huge difference
[09:19] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Well, that is odd. Like I said, try xubuntu.
[09:19] <anon32> ochosi: a lot of CDs, especially game ones have intentional abnormalities on them to discourage copying
[09:19] <Ogester> Just one question: The free CDs, they are shipped from South Africa, right?
[09:20] <xav_> wikijeff, what's your chipset exactly?
[09:20] <_stippi_> Stormx2: I spent a huge amount of time to configure Ubuntu, I don't think I wanna switch now
[09:20] <ochosi> anon32: anything i can do about it? (i know the diablo2-install worked for a friend of mine with ubuntu)
[09:20] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Its one command
[09:20] <_stippi_> Stormx2: Really?
[09:20] <xav_> there is one thing I hate about ubuntu
[09:20] <Stormx2> _stippi_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu desktop. You keep GNOME and all your settings. It just adds XFCE to the login menu
[09:20] <rambo3> Ogester i wouldent think that , from some no tax scountry
[09:20] <kaur> my laptops fan doesn't seem to stop after suspend or hibernation. How can i make it regulate itself?
[09:21] <Senesence> ladydoor: sudo make uninstall returned: make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[09:21] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Sorry, I meant xubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <anon32> ochosi: absolutely no idea, there's really no way to troubleshoot anything more than absurdly common issues over IRC
[09:21] <xav_> why do they want to make everyone think a desktop environment make a linux distribution
[09:21] <ladydoor> Senesence: ...ok. is this new source you had to download?
[09:21] <Stormx2> Senesence: make uninstall? XD~~
[09:21] <xav_> that's sad
[09:21] <ochosi> anon32: the other strange thing is that if i insert the install cd now it won't display any files, i can't even remount it
[09:21] <ochosi> anon32: just says: device busy
[09:21] <Senesence> ladydoor: No I found the old one. Ahh we actually need a new one right?
[09:21] <anon32> but you might be interesting in imaging your CDs (iso/mds/etc) and installing with virtual drives
[09:22] <Jaggur> hey
[09:22] <ladydoor> Senesence: no, the old one.
[09:22] <_stippi_> Stormx2: BTW, skite was not found, which servers do I need to add to me apt-get list?
[09:22] <Senesence> Yea this is the old one that I'm trying it in?
[09:22] <Stormx2> _stippi_: If I were you I'd add all the repos
[09:22] <Ogester> Ah.
[09:22] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Do a google on source-o-matic
[09:22] <ochosi> anon32: maybe i should try that... seems there are not a lot of other options
[09:22] <Senesence> ladydoor: the one that I installed the whole thing from
[09:22] <THX-1138_> !easysource
[09:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:22] <Stormx2> _stippi_: You want to add main, restricted, universe and multiverse.
[09:22] <ochosi> anon32: so thanks anyway
[09:23] <ochosi> anon32: i was quite sure it was a bug in the ubuntu-automount process
[09:23] <ladydoor> Senesence: i assume so. ok, try sudo make uninstall python . if that doesn't work, try sudo make uninstall python-Whatever-Your-Version-Number-Is
[09:23] <ladydoor> Senesence: why exactly did you need the new version again?
[09:23] <ladydoor> Senesence: actually, nevermind.
[09:23] <Senesence> ladydoor: Heh, I really didnt, just wanted to be on the edge.
[09:23] <anon32> ochosi: have you tried manually setting the mount options?
[09:24] <ladydoor> Senesence: ah.
[09:24] <ochosi> anon32: you mean in fstab?
[09:24] <ladydoor> Senesence: well, let me know if those work.
[09:24] <anon32> ochosi: no, use the mount command and manually mount them
[09:24] <digitalic> Hi
[09:24] <Senesence> ladydoor: I can look through the source package the filename should be uninstall something right? And then I should run that from bash right?
[09:24] <digitalic> espaol??
[09:24] <ochosi> anon32: or with mount? actually: i've tried both. the fstab thing makes a difference, so i can read either the game or the install cd. the mount-command just gets me an error or doesn't make a difference
[09:25] <THX-1138_> !es
[09:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:25] <anon32> ochosi: oh, sorry then
[09:25] <ochosi> anon32: somehow it seems he doesn't really reload the drive with the new options (like -t udf or -t iso9660)
[09:25] <ladydoor> Senesence: errr...no, did you try the sudo make uninstall python or the sudo make uninstall python-versionnumber?
[09:26] <spocky> hello
[09:26] <Stormx2> hi spocky
[09:26] <Senesence> ladydoor: Tried it, nothing worked, same error as before.
[09:27] <AgEnT-0016> hi all
[09:27] <AgEnT-0016> i got  a problem with gaim
[09:27] <ladydoor> Senesence: blah. they're *supposed* to include the ability to uninstall stuff. have you installed anything else by hand?
[09:27] <Stormx2> AgEnT-0016: Go ahead.
[09:27] <AgEnT-0016> it work ok until i sign in into my msn account
[09:28] <AgEnT-0016> then it suddenly goes off
[09:28] <Stormx2> AgEnT-0016; Just, exits?
[09:28] <Senesence> ladydoor: No, python was my first build from source, with your help. I did nothing after that.
[09:28] <ladydoor> Senesence: ok, in that case...cd to /usr/local and do ls bin
[09:28] <manmadha> if we ping any ip address there is some message like"8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 6998ms
[09:28] <ladydoor> Senesence: is python the only thing in there?
[09:28] <manmadha> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.059/0.061/0.069/0.010 ms, pipe 2
[09:28] <manmadha> "what does the pipe mean?
[09:28] <segfault> AgEnT-0016, see gaim site this is know issue
[09:29] <AgEnT-0016> yes Stormx2
[09:29] <segfault> AgEnT-0016, know=known
[09:29] <Stormx2> AgEnT-0016: What segfault said.
[09:29] <Senesence> ladydoor: Things in there: idle  pydoc  python  python2.5  python2.5-config  python-config  smtpd.py
[09:29] <AgEnT-0016> what do you mean?
[09:29] <ladydoor> Senesence: wait a minute. you're SURE that python isn't a symlink? what color is it? and what color is python2.5?
[09:29] <brainstew> Stormx2,  i got the nvidia driver to jump in.. but the list of modes shows 800x600 and 600 .. how to set 1024x768 @ 120
[09:30] <ochosi> anon32: problem with mounting an iso-file is: i can't create iso file if i can't read the cd...
[09:30] <Senesence> ladydoor: python-config is light blue, everything else is green
[09:30] <Stormx2> brainstew: Edit your xorg.conf file.
[09:30] <odyssevs> Super_Cat_Frog, well apparently the log folders were lacking. Gah. Overlooked the obvious.
[09:30] <Stormx2> brainstew: Google a guide.
[09:30] <morbid88> hey all.I'm trying to set up Ubuntu with LAMP (the server distro) and it's hanging at the "Configuring apt" window when "scanning the mirror". Is this supposed to take a long time?
[09:30] <odyssevs> Which configuration is this error referring to: ProFTPd warning: not start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode, apparently. Check your configuration.  ?
[09:31] <anon32> ochosi: you said that with one set of settings, you could read some discs
[09:31] <Stormx2> brainstew: or better, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:31] <anon32> and with the other, you could read the rest
[09:31] <segfault> odyssevs, proftpd config
[09:31] <brainstew> Stormx2,  i've done that.. nothing seems to work. those modeline generators generate all kinds of bogous info
[09:31] <anon32> so, image them one at a time
[09:31] <ochosi> anon32: i just found out that i can read the cd "sometimes"
[09:31] <Stormx2> morbid88: Are you following the ubuntu wiki page on LAMP?
[09:31] <Stormx2> brainstew: Reconfigured it and restarted X, correct?
[09:31] <ochosi> anon32: so maybe i'll have to wait for a lucky moment :)
[09:31] <brainstew> no
[09:31] <morbid88> Stormx2: of course not. I'm just jumping into this completely unprepared.
[09:32] <anon32> oh
[09:32] <brainstew> reconfigure did not let me pass the question..
[09:32] <ochosi> anon32: ok, so thanks anyway, i won't bother you with that anymore, it's a stupid problem and i guess there's no "solution"
[09:32] <Stormx2> morbid88: I think you need http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApachePHPMySQL
[09:32] <Stormx2> morbid88: Wait wait wait
[09:32] <morbid88> Stormx2: I thought the LAMP distribution was the solution to all that.
[09:32] <Stormx2> morbid88: You're doing a server install?
[09:32] <Stormx2> morbid88: I do beg your pardon.
[09:32] <Stormx2> morbid88: Sorry, can't help.
[09:32] <morbid88> Stormx2: my forgiveness is given freely.
[09:33] <morbid88> And if you want my P.O.S. computer along with it...
[09:33] <ladydoor> Senesence: ...ok, that's really weird. *for the moment,* we're just going to move /usr/local/bin/python out of the way. if that screws up anything else (which i doubt, as it's local), we can fix that then. sudo mv bin/python bin/python-2.5 (INCLUDE THE DASH)
[09:33] <Stormx2> morbid88: haha.
[09:33] <morbid88> so does anyone know why ---
[09:33] <morbid88> oh, look at that. it just takes a long time.
[09:33] <segfault> morbid88, could be a slow mirror
[09:34] <Stormx2> jesus... how long can sudo make modules take in the linux source code? Its been going for over 2 hours now...
[09:34] <odyssevs> Any wisdom running proftpd on a non-standard port?
[09:34] <Senesence> ladydoor: Just a sec
[09:34] <morbid88> segfault: I don't even know what it means. It's not an internet issue, since it's not online yet. But it resolved itself. I guess my old AMD Duron 800MHz isn't up to par with todays youngins
[09:34] <segfault> Stormx2, a while
[09:34] <simo1> hello. I have a dual boot with ubuntu and windows xp. I've been trying to resize the partitions with gparted but it wouldn't let me move /dev/hda3 presumably because this would unmount the operating system. I then tried to use the ubuntu install disk. Now gparted doesnt recognize my partitions. Everything still works ok though - and i can still access my windows drive from ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[09:34] <mathias> ive upgraded dapper to edgy and i can't get any audio from my usb-audio-card anymore. the card is detected and i can control the volume but the pcm playback wont work.  any ideas?
[09:35] <segfault> Stormx2, fyi unless u changed the config u r building all modules in the kernel, which is alot
[09:35] <anon32> Stormx2, compiling takes forever if you don't have an uber machine like the ones MicroSoft uses to build Windows
[09:35] <Stormx2> simo1: Try the gparted live CD?
[09:35] <ladydoor> !u
[09:35] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[09:35] <THX-1138_> sim01 fsck or checkdisk - filesystem integrity.
[09:35] <Jowi> mathias: check that the volume isn't muted
[09:35] <ltr20000> HOw do i install Ubuntu (live cd) w/o the PCCMIA SUpport?
[09:36] <ltr20000> it always freezes @ 95% (config hardware)
[09:36] <saba> just installed ubuntu
[09:36] <Stormx2> segfault: Ack. See I'm trying to install LIRC from a guide. I think it was "sudo make menuconfig" which got me a menu. Should I have just picked 1 module?
[09:36] <ladydoor> Senesence: whenever you're ready...
[09:36] <saba> i think i'll learn to love it
[09:36] <Senesence> ladydoor: Done
[09:36] <rideout> on edgy, xgl seems to have a problem with xkb, all the xkb programs have this error: "Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property"
[09:36] <mathias> Jowi: mixer doesn't have the "x" symbol.  Rhythmbox shows no progress in playing the song (slider doesn't move)
[09:37] <anon32> how come a ton of the packages one can find on apt-get or synaptic are way larger than their Windows equivalents? For example - Thunderbird is 10MB on apt-get but 5.5MB to download the Windows installer
[09:37] <Chrisn[A] > becuase windows sux
[09:37] <Chrisn[A] > george bush payed them to make a smaller version
[09:37] <wcole> exit
[09:38] <soeki> i have used many distros (to some extent)of linux, and i have to say that for a company. a combo of  debian sarge on servers and ubuntu on desktops, it would be the best decission ever.
[09:38] <AgEnT-0016> Strormx2
[09:38] <anon32> Chrisn[A] , Windows sucks, so their packages are better??
[09:38] <AgEnT-0016> any idea about gaim
[09:38] <Jowi> mathias: do you get sound if you do this in a terminal "playsound /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav"?
[09:38] <soeki> and i have only 3 days with ubuntu.
[09:38] <digitalic> Hi
[09:38] <Stormx2> AgEnT-0016: No, sorry. You could always install a BETA
[09:38] <digitalic> i need help :(
[09:38] <ladydoor> Senesence: ok, now do sudo dpkg-divert --package python --remove /usr/bin/python
[09:38] <Stormx2> digitalic: With?
[09:38] <kaur> Help! after suspend or hibernation my laptop's fan keeps working... Solutions?
[09:38] <ladydoor> Senesence: to remove the diversion. what's it say?
[09:38] <segfault> Stormx2, umm not sure but i doubt u need to build all the modules, also lirc looks to be in repos
[09:38] <digitalic> with the ubuntu installation !
[09:38] <digitalic> i download a 64 distro... desktop
[09:38] <digitalic> but
[09:39] <digitalic> when i boot it...
[09:39] <Stormx2> segfault: Can I just cancel the build?
[09:39] <ltr20000> Hello, my ubuntu install freezes @ 95% (configuring hardware)
[09:39] <digitalic> it just HANGs...
[09:39] <ltr20000> how do i disable the PCMIA detection
[09:39] <THX-1138_> !enter
[09:39] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:39] <segfault> Stormx2, go for it ctl-C
[09:39] <simo1> stormx2: I tried the live cd - that's when i realized gparted was no longer recognizing my partitions - it just said the whole drive was unallocated
[09:39] <Stormx2> segfault: That won't harm my system will it? I've run: sudo make oldconfig sudo make menuconfig sudo make include/linux/version.h sudo make modules
[09:39] <morbid88> oh hell. So the Ubuntu LAMP server is command line only?
[09:39] <kaur> Help! after suspend or hibernation my laptop's fan keeps working... Solutions?
[09:39] <Senesence> ladydoor: dpkg-divert: mismatch on package
[09:39] <Senesence>   when removing `diversion of /usr/bin/python by python'
[09:39] <Senesence>   found `local diversion of /usr/bin/python to /usr/bin/python.ubuntu'
[09:39] <_stippi_> Stormx2: I have these frequent lock up problems...
[09:39] <segfault> Stormx2, nope, just means ur kernel is not fully built
[09:40] <digitalic> someone...??
[09:40] <anon32> digitalic, do you have a 64-bit CPU?
[09:40] <digitalic> hi...
[09:40] <_stippi_> Stormx2: I thought Linux was more reliable, but it is a major pain in the butt.
[09:40] <segfault> Stormx2, but wont affect kernel u have installed/running etc
[09:40] <Stormx2> simo1: Oh dear. Try sudo fdisk /dev/hda and write
[09:40] <ladydoor> Senesence: see, that's what pastebin is or.
[09:40] <digitalic> yes... i own an AMD64 4200+ Dual core... im not an idiot..
[09:40] <THX-1138_> morbid88 - i have good news No!  grab "ubuntu-desktop" huge D/L
[09:40] <Senesence> ladydoor: sorry
[09:40] <_stippi_> Stormx2: anyways, I managed to update my sources.list, but skite is still not found
[09:40] <kothz> kaur: this any help? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[09:40] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Its a hardware issue my dear. If you get it sorted, it will be more reliable...
[09:40] <morbid88_ghost> THX-1138 is that with apt-get?
[09:41] <_stippi_> Stormx2: yeah? What makes you think so?
[09:41] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Post on the forums with your exact hardware setup, and describe the problem. ubuntuforums.org
[09:41] <ladydoor> try it without ``--package python''
[09:41] <THX-1138_> morbid -I trust synaptic for tese things
[09:41] <mathias> Jowi: found a playsound command but it complains about timidity.cfg
[09:41] <_stippi_> Stormx2: on two different computers? With all the other OSs just running fine?
[09:41] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Because you have capable hardware, it probably just has the wrong drivers.
[09:41] <kaur> kothz: i considerd it as an option but i'm not sure if the fan will start if need be
[09:41] <_stippi_> Stormx2: Maybe so, how do I get the right drivers then?
[09:41] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Did you do a sudo apt-get update?
[09:41] <morbid88_ghost> THX-1138: I thought synaptic was the GNOME manager for apt. Anyway, it's a moot point, since I can't get online yet.
[09:41] <Jowi> mathias: how about simply "play"
[09:41] <digitalic> ?? :(
[09:41] <ladydoor> Senesence: try it without ``--package python.'' what's it return?
[09:42] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Depends, first you need to find the issue and I'm no help with that! :)
[09:42] <_stippi_> Stormx2: The system is up to date.
[09:42] <Skitzo1989> i have a question about ubuntu, i installed it today and ive never used linux before, what is the linux equivilent of a .exe file?
[09:42] <THX-1138_> morbid - nvm my silliness.- sorry.
[09:42] <_stippi_> Stormx2: :-)
[09:42] <LiraNuna> hi
[09:42] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Did you do that command?
[09:42] <Stormx2> _stippi_: That doesn't upgrade your system, it re-caches your package lists.
[09:42] <LiraNuna> i can't get xorg to get 3D acc.
[09:42] <_stippi_> Stormx2: If I do that, I loose my newer subversion install.
[09:42] <kaur> Help! after suspend or hibernation my laptop's fan keeps working... Solutions?
[09:42] <manmadha> if we ping any ip address there is some message like"8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 6998ms
[09:42] <manmadha> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.059/0.061/0.069/0.010 ms, pipe 2
[09:42] <mathias> Jowi: sox: Failed writing /dev/dsp: Unable to reset OSS driver.  Possibly accessing an invalid file/device
[09:42] <manmadha> "what does the pipe mean?
[09:42] <LiraNuna> i tried reconfiguring xorg.conf
[09:42] <LiraNuna> with nvidia
[09:43] <_stippi_> Stormx2: And I am really really sure my system is up to date
[09:43] <Senesence> ladydoor: Removing `local diversion of /usr/bin/python to /usr/bin/python.ubuntu'
[09:43] <digitalic> Hey, i need help ... plz...
[09:43] <anon32> Skitzo1989, linux doesn't use file extensions, an executable has a mimetype of executable/blahblahblah
[09:43] <earthian> hello. i suspect that my ubuntu sound recording does not work at all. where do i start looking for info to debug that?
[09:43] <ladydoor> Skitzo1989: file extensions are optional and discouraged in linux, as they are too confusing. executables are found in the /usr/bin dir.
[09:43] <Jowi> mathias: the volume or mute is not the problem then
[09:43] <simo1> stormx2: it says the kernel is still using the old table, and will use the new table after a reboot - do you think that will solve it?
[09:43] <Stormx2> _stippi_: *sigh* Did you run the command. If you haven't run it after updating your /etc/apt/sources.list, do it.
[09:43] <THX-1138_> morbis aptitude package manager.
[09:43] <earthian> !record
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <ladydoor> Senesence: ok, now do which python.
[09:43] <_stippi_> Stormx2: ah, thanks
[09:43] <earthian> !sound
[09:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:43] <Skitzo1989> ok thanks everyone
[09:43] <mathias> Jowi: thats seems likely
[09:43] <Stormx2> !+info skite
[09:43] <ubotu> Package skite does not exist in any distro I know
[09:43] <Stormx2> lmao
[09:44] <Stormx2> man I suck, hold on.
[09:44] <Super_Cat_Frog> ace - i got bluetooth working. i can now use my telephone as a remote control for amarok, that frigging rules
[09:44] <Jowi> mathias: have a look at the links that ubotu just spat out (with the kind help of earthian)
[09:44] <Stormx2> !+info scite
[09:44] <czer323> Anyone know how to turn off that launch indicator?  When you click on a launcher in gnome, it'll do a box and enlarge to fill the whoel screen?
[09:44] <ubotu> scite: Lightweight GTK-based Programming Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.67-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 664 kB, installed size 1804 kB
[09:44] <Stormx2> There we go.
[09:44] <Senesence> ladydoor: Great we are back to 2.4 and alacarte works. Thanks that seems to have done it.
[09:44] <ladydoor> Senesence: whew
[09:44] <digitalic> hey
[09:44] <digitalic> need some help over here!
[09:44] <aldo> Hi. Do you know what's the best graphic manager for bittorrent under Gnome?
[09:44] <ladydoor> Senesence: glad to've helped. sorry about the confusion.
[09:44] <anon32> !bsd
[09:44] <ladydoor> !best
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:44] <Sivik> digitalic: whats the problem
[09:44] <Senesence> ladydoor:  and I was worried heh, your great. Thanks again.
[09:45] <Stormx2> aldo: torrent client? Try azureus
[09:45] <pty> aldo: have you tried bittornado?
[09:45] <ladydoor> Senesence: no problem.
[09:45] <anon32> aldo, azureus.aelitis.com
[09:45] <Sivik> !gnomad2
[09:45] <ubotu> gnomad2: Manage a Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.1-1 (dapper), package size 147 kB, installed size 480 kB
[09:45] <_stippi_> Stormx2: It got stuck at 99%?
[09:45] <anon32> actually, if you have WINE, you can use utorrent instead
[09:45] <mathias> Jowi, earthian: thanks. i'll check those out
[09:45] <morbid88_ghost> anyone here know how to set up a cable modem dialler? I'm stranded with command line.
[09:46] <Skitzo1989> im trying to download java which file should i get? Linux RPM (self-extracting file), Linux (self-extracting file), Linux x64, Linux x64 RPM
[09:46] <anon32> !cedega
[09:46] <kaur> Help! after suspend or hibernation my laptop's fan keeps working... Solutions?
[09:46] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[09:46] <earthian> np i am checking them myself too :)
[09:46] <THX-1138_> !modem
[09:46] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:46] <Sivik> morbid88: a cable modem should not need to be "dailed"
[09:46] <Stormx2> _stippi_: The download? Odd, what mirror are you using?
[09:46] <kaur> it just kills my laptop...
[09:46] <THX-1138_> !ppoe
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <morbid88_ghost> Sivik: yeah, you'd think that wouldn't you.
[09:46] <morbid88_ghost> Sivik: it's actually L2TP.
[09:46] <Jowi> morbid88_ghost: depends on the modem and where you live. you don't dial but need to configure the connection. Try pppoeconf
[09:46] <digitalic> hye
[09:46] <Sivik> !L2TP
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about L2TP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <THX-1138_> Jowi - nice cacth. :)
[09:47] <anon32> Skitzo1989, use apt-get, Ubuntu doesn't use RPMs
[09:47] <digitalic> !boot
[09:47] <sureshot> !dls
[09:47] <_stippi_> Stormx2: now it went through, but it reports that some files could not be updated because of unavailable public keys...
[09:47] <morbid88_ghost> Jowi: isn't pppoeconf for modems and dial-up?
[09:47] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <sureshot> !dsl
[09:47] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:47] <digitalic> !boot problems 64bit
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boot problems 64bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <Stormx2> _stippi_: pastebin your sources.list.
[09:47] <_stippi_> Stormx2: It tells me to use apt-get update... sigh
[09:47] <Jowi> morbid88_ghost: dsl modems. some cable modems use the same connection type
[09:48] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Haha... ah joy.
[09:48] <morbid88_ghost> thanks. bbiab
[09:48] <Jowi> brb. son just woke up
[09:48] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Bear with it. I had so many issues like this when I started.
[09:48] <_stippi_> Stormx2: Do I really have to "pastebin"? I hate that.
[09:48] <Stormx2> _stippi_: Well /msg me then
[09:48] <_stippi_> ok
[09:48] <Skitzo1989> what's apt-get?
[09:49] <ladydoor> !apt
[09:49] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:49] <anon32> !apt
[09:49] <t9k565> hello
[09:50] <jshamash66> Can someone tell me how I can get Windows XP to find my Ubuntu shared folders?
[09:50] <THX-1138_>  !<item> > <nick_name> - This channel is really starting to fly!
[09:51] <t9k565> jshamash66: you can use Samba
[09:51] <clemen> hola
[09:51] <earthian> yay there are some dead links in ubuntu help pages :(
[09:51] <earthian> interested? :
[09:51] <THX-1138_> !es > clemen
[09:51] <digitalic> hola
[09:51] <digitalic> espaol
[09:52] <THX-1138_> !es
[09:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:52] <anon32> yay, the ubuntu help tells people to transcode lossy formats
[09:52] <clemen> si
[09:52] <earthian> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems <--- two first links does not have a corresponding page
[09:52] <odyssevs> Super_Cat_Frog, is the extension .htm not the standard for html pages?
[09:52] <hsunda3> What package do I need to download in order to get the kernel source, to start compiling my own kernel?
[09:52] <jshamash66> t9k565: I have Samba, i modified the workgroup section in the config file, but my XP computer still won't find my Ubuntu
[09:52] <t9k565> how may I use my Motorola SM56 modem with Ubuntu?
[09:53] <THX-1138_> !hardware >  t9k565
[09:53] <anon32> !modem
[09:53] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:53] <t9k565> and if you just type \\x.x.x.x
[09:54] <t9k565> where x.x.x.x is the Ubuntu machine IP?
[09:54] <ifrozen> hali
[09:54] <t9k565> thank you THX-1138 :)
[09:54] <mathias> Jowi: soundcard shows up with everything (in sys / dev - audio,pcm,control...) but every alsa function call says "No such device". this worked a couple of hours ago in dapper.. i'll search for bugs in launchpad
[09:54] <hsunda3> So .... is the kernel source for the Ubuntu kernel available through Synaptic?
[09:54] <Sivik> hsunda3: yes
[09:54] <Sivik> !source
[09:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:55] <hsunda3> Sivik: apparently not !source :) .. !kernel perhaps?
[09:55] <hsunda3> !kernel
[09:55] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:55] <anon32> hsunda3: yes
[09:55] <jshamash66> How can I get WinXP to find my Ubuntu shared folder, if I have Samba and I modified the workgroup section in the config file?
[09:55] <hsunda3> ah nice ...
[09:56] <anon32> be warned that compiling it will take ages
[09:56] <simo1> stormx2: unfortunately, gparted still doesnt pick up the partitons after reboot
[09:56] <hsunda3> anon32: oh don't worry about that.
[09:56] <anon32> unless you have some really tricked out folder
[09:56] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  enable the linux users samba passwords with 'sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME'
[09:56] <Chousuke> ages?
[09:56] <hsunda3> anon32: wait. Can I compile a kernel on another machine and bring it over to my laptop?
[09:56] <Chousuke> compiling a kernel?
[09:56] <Chousuke> hardly
[09:56] <anon32> jshamash66: first of all, is your shared folder on an ext3 file system?
[09:56] <anon32> XP can only read FATX and NTFS
[09:57] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  also you may want to enable 'writeable'
[09:57] <jshamash66> anons2: how can I tell?
[09:57] <Chousuke> anon32: with samba it doesn't matter
[09:57] <Dr_willis> anon32,  for a samba share -- it dosent matter.
[09:57] <hsunda3> Chousuke: do you know whether I can compile the kernel on one machine and install it one another?
[09:57] <Chousuke> hsunda3: it's possible.
[09:57] <kaur> Help! after suspend or hibernation my laptop's fan keeps working... Solutions?
[09:57] <anon32> the way he said it, it seemed like the folder was on his local machine, sorry
[09:57] <Chousuke> hsunda3: is your machine very slow, then?
[09:57] <Dr_willis> That would be VERY VERY  limiting if it mattered
[09:57] <mwtb> I'm trying to install libqt3-mt-dev, but apt-get returns: "libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 is to be installed". Any ideas on how to get around this?
[09:57] <Dr_willis> :) ok. heh heh
[09:57] <hsunda3> Chousuke: so what should I keep in mind? I intend to follow the CustomKernelBuild wiki page.
[09:58] <Chousuke> it takes about 10 minutes to compile a kernel on a 1GHz machine
[09:58] <hsunda3> Chousuke: no..not very slow.... just that I have a much faster machine at school that I have access to that I rather use than my own laptop
[09:58] <hsunda3> Chousuke: that's all?
[09:58] <Chousuke> yeah
[09:58] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  also if the windows machine has a hard time accessing/seeing the shares.. you may want to tell it the user name as the explixit share name..
[09:58] <jshamash66> Dr_Willis, what does adding a samba password do?
[09:58] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  lets your windows box get to the users home shares. no password = No access...
[09:59] <hsunda3> Chousuke: oh very well then :)
[09:59] <clearzen> How can I make programs I open with the terminal run after I close the terminal I used to open the program?
[09:59] <Chousuke> hsunda3: Just read the helps on all options and make sure you know what you need to have in your kernel.
[09:59] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  also the home shares are 'read only' by default. edit the smb.conf to make them writeable
[09:59] <Chousuke> hsunda3: compile root file system support in statically.
[09:59] <pty> clearzen: application &
[10:00] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  the book "using samba" is avilable online. and is a verry very worth while read.
[10:00] <hsunda3> Chousuke: indeed.. I am familiar with kernel compilation .. I wanted to add a feature to enhance iptables ...
[10:00] <Chousuke> hsunda3: also, make sure you have a way to boot into the old kernel if something goes wrong.
[10:00] <jshamash66> yeah, I already made them writeable. I just did the smbpasswd thing, I'm gonna see how that works
[10:00] <clearzen> pty: Do I just append that to the command to run the program when I open it?
[10:00] <Chousuke> hsunda3: ah, okay, then :)
[10:00] <hsunda3> Chousuke: so I am going to use the ubuntu kernel itself..
[10:00] <jshamash66> Thanks for the advice Dr_willis
[10:00] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  you MIGHT need torestart the samba service.. Not sure if its needed or not.
[10:00] <hsunda3> Chousuke: and not a vanilla source... from kernel.og or somethng.. thanks for your suggestions !
[10:01] <Chousuke> hsunda3: you could make a debian package out of the kernel
[10:01] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  ive messed with samba for ages. :P
[10:01] <Chousuke> hsunda3: with make-kpkg
[10:01] <Chousuke> hsunda3: it's in the kernel-package package iirc.
[10:01] <pty> clearzen: yeah - so for example :  >gedit &
[10:01] <hsunda3> Chousuke: yes, I think I am going to do that.. with make--kpkg and fakeroot and all that..
[10:01] <boink> that's the debian way
[10:01] <Chousuke> Yeah
[10:02] <clearzen> pty: Thank you. That has been bugging me for a long time.
[10:02] <bm0nk> im trying to copy a .arm file to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware as this tutorial on installing PrismFirmwares says.....but /usr/lib/hotplug doesn't even exist..... /cry
[10:02] <hsunda3> boink does UBuntu have its own way?
[10:02] <boink> Ubuntu is based on debian
[10:02] <pty> clearzen: no problem
[10:02] <kitche> bm0nk: you probably have to make it
[10:02] <bm0nk> kitche : may i pm you? :P
[10:02] <kitche> bm0nk if you wish :)
[10:02] <hsunda3> yes... but there are so many ways in which Ubuntu has deviated ... so I was wondering whethey they have their own compilation mechanism :)
[10:03] <THX-1138_> !channels is also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat By Desktop Type, Languge, Development Group.
[10:03] <kitche> hsunda3: most linux compilation mechanism is the same
[10:04] <gnomefreak> THX-1138_: please you can stop trying to add factiods now
[10:04] <hsunda3> kitche yes... but I like doing it the debian way, since I get a nice .deb package in the end.. and dpkg --list shows it as well
[10:04] <THX-1138_>  - !gnomefreak is right
[10:04] <kitche> hsunda3: well ubuntu is pretty much the same for making packages it seems
[10:05] <hsunda3> kitche: yep... indeed looks to be that way ..
[10:05] <mwe> bm0nk: I think hotplug was dropped in dapper
[10:05] <bm0nk> mwe : well that screws me even more...
[10:05] <bm0nk> Only been using ubuntu for a week and....i wont give up on trying to get this to work but
[10:05] <bm0nk> the amount of emotional stress this is giving me cant be good :P
[10:05] <mwe> bm0nk: firmware belong in /lib/firmware I think
[10:05] <kaur> Help! after suspend or hibernation my laptop's fan keeps working... Solutions?
[10:05] <bm0nk> mwe : ahhhh thanks
[10:05] <njal> um how do i get DVD's too play, some of the howto's just don't work
[10:06] <mwe> bm0nk: np 
[10:06] <boink> !libdvdcss
[10:06] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:06] <kaur> Help! after suspend or hibernation my laptop's fan keeps working... Solutions?
[10:06] <njal> Yes, i have libdvdcss
[10:06] <boink> using mplayer?
[10:06] <mistraal> does anyone get "Button Label|" on some buttons in settings manager in Xubuntu?
[10:07] <Skitzo1981> how do i get to the desktop on the terminal?
[10:07] <Benni> Hello everyone, got a little question ... it seems (!) to me that with kernel 2.6.15-27-386 my system crashes annoyingly often, whereas with 2.6.15-23-386 it doesn't. just quits its job, sysrq keys don't work, doesn't leave a trace in the syslog :-( any idea what to do?
[10:07] <njal> erm no, totem
[10:07] <njal> mplayer wasn't found in the repo's apparently
[10:07] <boink> !mplayer
[10:07] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[10:07] <THX-1138_> Skitzo1989 "startx - once started CTRL+ALT+F7
[10:07] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:07] <Crescendo_> Is there a version of Poser for Linux?
[10:08] <njal> yep universe and multiverse are both enabled
[10:08] <njal> it's the first thing i do
[10:09] <njal> i also got gxine installed
[10:09] <kaur> anyone using dapper with a laptop here?
[10:09] <Skitzo1981> THX-1138, where do i find that?
[10:09] <Benni> kaur: me
[10:10] <Jowi> Benni: use the kernel that has got the features you need and that is stable for you.
[10:10] <kaur> Benni: does your laptop fan ever stop after suspend or hibernation?
[10:11] <Benni> Jowi: sure, I've already been thinking of changing the default kernel in grub ... though I'm curious about the origin of the problem
[10:11] <njal> ok sorry my problem seems to have magically gone away for now.
[10:11] <kaur> Benni: ??
[10:11] <njal> I have a DVD here that does not want to mount
[10:12] <esher> hey
[10:12] <Benni> kaur: don't have hibernation -- but after suspend it always looked just fine to me ...
[10:12] <WILLIS_79> HI THERE
[10:12] <esher> how i can setup deny host for ssh login / shell users ?
[10:12] <Jowi> Benni: got some issues with some specific kernel versions on my hardware as well. I install one, see if it is stable, switch if it is or remove it if it is not :)
[10:12] <noumaan> i can not type capital letters using shift key. i don't know what i did that caused this thing. or may be there is some key in my keyboard that restricts me from using shift key.
[10:12] <kaur> Benni: could you check it again please?
[10:12] <Jowi> esher: /etc/hosts.deny
[10:12] <Benni> Jowi: thanks, guess I'll stick with that ...
[10:12] <noumaan> does any one has any idea what could possibly be wrong/
[10:13] <Jowi> esher: and /etc/hosts.allow of course
[10:13] <kaur> Benni: the fan of my laptop doesn't stop at all after suspend
[10:13] <esher> sorry i mean specialy host for a shelluser, that can login
[10:13] <SB|nblracer> Hello
[10:13] <SB|nblracer> can some one help to answer some of my questions
[10:14] <Jowi> esher: for example you can allow everyone to connect to ssh by adding this in /etc/hosts.allow "sshd: ALL" or limit it to your local network like this "sshd: 192.168.0."
[10:14] <esher> ok thanks dude
[10:14] <Jowi> esher: same logic goes to the hosts.deny
[10:15] <Benni> kaur: will suspend for a second
[10:15] <SB|nblracer> what is the difference between the server and desktop version
[10:15] <njal> how do I go about mounting a dvd when 'mount /dev/cdrw /media/dvdrecorder' does not work?
[10:15] <kitche> SB|nblracer: one install a desktop and the other doesn't by default
[10:15] <kjm> SB|nblracer - server does not install X for one.
[10:15] <Jowi> esher: "man hosts.allow" for useful info
[10:15] <THX-1138_> !mount > njal
[10:16] <SB|nblracer> i would like a GUI/desktop, but i am installing it on server
[10:16] <jshamash66> Dr_willis: I did what you told me to before- I set up smbpasswd for my linux user name, but Windows still can't find me
[10:17] <SB|nblracer> so should i go with the deskto version, or is there more "server" options in the server ISO
[10:17] <simo1> THX-1138_: sudo fsck returns a warning that /dev/hda3 is mounted and could cause damage - should i continue?
[10:17] <Jowi> SB|nblracer: the default install for server version is more lightweight. you can add GUI later on if you wish
[10:17] <njal> the mount command just hangs when I try to mount this one disk
[10:18] <pike_> SB|nblracer: but you still have to apt-get the 'server apps'
[10:18] <kitche> simo1: I wouldn't since that can damage your filesystem running fsck on a mounted disk
[10:18] <njal> it works on an ubuntu ppc laptop
[10:18] <kjm> simo1 - if you want to risk damage . . .
[10:18] <kaur> Benni: ok
[10:18] <njal> yet does not work here, it's confusing
[10:18] <manmadha> !nix
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <aatif> hello
[10:18] <kjm> if it is not your / partition - unmount it first.
[10:18] <cifra> wenas wenas
[10:19] <SB|nblracer> one more question what is in the DVD version thats not in the Cd iSO
[10:19] <esac> hi i am trying to run beryl, i set it up and it ran great. now it starts up, i see the splash screen, and the windows decorations disappear, and then X just closes and it restarts gdm. any ideas ?
[10:19] <kitche> SB|nblracer: the dvd version just has more applications probably that it installs
[10:19] <jshamash66> can someone walk me through sharing folders with Samba? I've tried a million things, Windows still can't find me
[10:19] <njal> both are unmounted
[10:20] <SB|nblracer> Thanks kitche
[10:20] <esac> jshamash66: are you trying to do it by computer name? does it work by ip ?
[10:20] <kitche> esac: are you using XGL or aiglx but probably get a better anwser in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:20] <kjm> jsamash66 - are your machines on the same workgroup?  First thing to check....
[10:20] <esac> kitche: aiglx
[10:20] <njal> I think i keep mounting the wrong device, how do i find out what ubuntu refers to my dvdrw drive as?
[10:20] <jshamash66> kjm: ye
 THX-1138: lol............sometimes fiddeling around with internet suggestions it can be crazy
[10:20] <Jowi> jshamash66: First of all, if you're behind a router, turn off software firewalls temporary to see if it's blocking your traffic.
 THX-1138: i removed the use_first_pass and saved the file
 THX-1138: correct syntax in that file is auth    required        pam_unix.so nullok_secure
[10:21] <jshamash66> Jowi: I already tried that, it's not
[10:21] <niklas_e> is there any way to get XV (picture showing program) to get it though apt-get?
[10:21] <kjm> jshamash66 - can you post (pastebin) your smb.conf file?
[10:21] <kjm> niklas_e : apt-cache search xv
[10:21] <g333k_work> hi, I want to program in C# under linux, do I just need to install monodevelop? what about the compiler?
[10:22] <Sivik> g333k_work: install mono and mondevelop
[10:22] <sharms> .
[10:22] <kjm> g33k_work - I think if you apt-get monodevelop, the compiler (mono) is one of the dependencies.
[10:22] <Sivik> g333k_work: sudo apt-get install mono and then sudo apt-get install monodevelop, it uses gtk# to compile
[10:22] <kjm> ^^ what Sivik said
[10:22] <Sivik> kjm: lol
[10:22] <g333k_work> Sivik, ok thanks
[10:22] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  be sure windows firewalling dont have it blocked.. and tell the windows box the exact name of the share. does it even see the Samba Machine>
[10:22] <odyssevs> How does one reload the logrotate daemon configs?
[10:22] <Sivik> g333k_work: yw
[10:22] <optimusprime> 'sudo cp' does that mean to copy a file?
[10:23] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  if it isent even seeing the machine. then you got some other issues to check out
[10:23] <Sivik> optimusprime: yes
[10:23] <kjm> optimusprime - yes
[10:23] <jshamash66> kjm: # Samba config file created using SWAT
[10:23] <jshamash66> # from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1)
[10:23] <jshamash66> # Date: 2006/09/29 19:14:58
[10:23] <jshamash66> [global] 
[10:23] <jshamash66> workgroup = RSWCA
[10:23] <jshamash66> wins support = no
[10:23] <jshamash66> [Download] 
[10:23] <jshamash66> path = /home/jake
[10:23] <jshamash66> comment = Download
[10:23] <theacolyte> sigh
[10:23] <jshamash66> available = yes
[10:23] <kjm> arg!!!
[10:23] <jshamash66> browseable = yes
[10:23] <jshamash66> public = yes
[10:23] <jshamash66> writable = no
[10:23] <niklas_e> tnx
[10:23] <kjm> !pastebin > jshmash66
[10:23] <Dr_willis> *sigh*
[10:23] <Sivik> !pastebin
[10:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:23] <jshamash66> sorry heh
[10:23] <optimusprime> so if I mess up I can always revert to that file
[10:23] <Benni> kaur: sorry, actually I don't know a lot about that ... found out that "acpi -V" displays some info, but not about my fans ...
[10:24] <wrtpeeps> can anyone tell me, if my wireles router uses WEP, is the WEP just on the wireless connections or will wired connectins need the WEP key too
[10:24] <Dr_willis> jshamash66, #1 - the user HOMES are normally set up to be shared.. no need to set up a "download" share like you got.
[10:24] <kjm> optimusprime - yes.
[10:24] <optimusprime> and everything will be back to normal
[10:24] <jshamash66> Dr_willis: no, it's not even seeing my machine
[10:24] <pike_> odyssevs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure logrotate maybe
[10:24] <optimusprime> ah ok needed to clarify that up...
[10:24] <optimusprime> thx
[10:24] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  check th samba logs.. and be sure your workgroups are correct.
[10:24] <Jowi> jshamash66: is the share set up ok? in /etc/smb.conf check "hosts allow", "workgroup", and you can try to add "force group = sambauser"  to your [share] 
[10:24] <THX-1138_> !wep  > wrtpeeps
[10:24] <kjm> wrtpeeps - just wireless
[10:25] <wrtpeeps> kjm: thanks
[10:25] <Sivik> !key
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Sivik> !keybinds
[10:25] <wrtpeeps> thank you THX-1138_
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keybinds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <esac> jshamash66: can you ping the linux machine from the windows machine by ip ?
[10:25] <Jowi> jshamash66: /etc/samba/smb.conf of course
[10:25] <jshamash66> Dr_willis: i changed my share folder to home, and my workgroup is correct\
[10:26] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  theres a special 'homes' share. You really dident need to change much of anything at all in that file. :)
[10:26] <THX-1138_> Dr_willis - is xev xmodmap sudo gconf-editor /apps/metacity  going to help with keybinds?
[10:26] <theacolyte> !twinview
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Dr_willis> THX-1138,  no idea there. i dont use gnome much
[10:26] <Dr_willis> theacolyte,  google for twinview examples - ive found a lot of very well done gentoo docs on the topic.
[10:27] <theacolyte> Yeah they all don't match my current situation, and I'm having trouble adapting them
[10:27] <wikijeff> I have a 1.5 Ghz 512 MB RAM Intel integrated graphics laptop, but I'm not able to run even the most basic 3d games. I know I don't have the optimal hardware, but shouldn't I be able to run simple 3d games with minimum graphics requirements at more than 1 fps? I tend to get between 0 and 1 fps right now.
[10:27] <Dr_willis> theacolyte,  it takes some tweaking and learning. :P
[10:27] <jshamash66> Dr_willis: so what exactly should I do now in that case?
[10:27] <theacolyte> wikijeff: not really to be honest
[10:27] <xav_> wikijeff, you need to provide more infos
[10:27] <Sivik> wikijeff: its because you have not installed the 3d drivers for it
[10:27] <theacolyte> If it's GMA, it's not going to do much
[10:27] <xav_> wikijeff, which 3d games ?
[10:28] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  i advise reading through that USING SAMBA book and learn the system.. you may have an issue on the windows side.
[10:28] <theacolyte> Dr_willis: that's what I'm having problems with. Not sure how much time I'm willing to put into it though.
[10:28] <jshamash66> Jowi: what does the forceuser do?
[10:28] <wikijeff> xav_: even something simple like Slune doesn't run at more than 1 fps.
[10:28] <xav_> wikijeff, paste Xorg.0.log xorg.conf and LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo output somewhere
[10:28] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  could boot a live cd in the windows box - so you can use some decent network scanning tools to see what shares are seen
[10:28] <jshamash66> Dr_willis: ok, thanks a lot for your help
[10:28] <wikijeff> Sivik: how do I install the 3d drivers?
[10:28] <xav_> wikijeff, you don't, it's already there
[10:28] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  i find smb4k to be very handy for scanning th enetwork for shares.
[10:29] <jshamash66> Dr_willis: wll try
[10:29] <paquito> hello
[10:29] <collier_> Is it possible to host stuff without unbuntu server edition???/
[10:29] <xav_> wikijeff, just do as I said and someone will maybe be able to help with more informations
[10:29] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  not sure  of any similer windows scanner tools
[10:29] <Dr_willis> collier_,  of course
[10:29] <theacolyte> collier_: yes
[10:29] <simo1> fdisk /dev/hda says my partition table has been altered, "Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy. The kernel still uses the old table. Syncing disks. " I've rebooted but still returns the error.
[10:29] <kjm> collier - yes.
[10:29] <collier_> how
[10:29] <Dr_willis> simo1,  you mean you are rebooting and rerunning fdisk?
[10:30] <kitche> collier_: just install the packages but it's hard to know what you want without you saying it really
[10:30] <g333k_work> Hi, I'm usign pessulus to locking down the gnome desktop, Can I add more options?
[10:30] <collier_> Whats the package called?
[10:30] <kjm> collier_ : What do you want to do?  Host stuff is pretty generic.
[10:30] <Dr_willis> collier_,  you were very VAGUE --  ' to host stuff '
[10:30] <simo1> Dr_willis: yes I rebooted and ran fdisk again - it returned the same error
[10:30] <wikijeff> xav_: Where can I find the Xorg log?
[10:30] <collier_> well I just looking at this http://ispconfig.org/index.htm will that be good??
[10:30] <Dr_willis> simo1,  dont run fdisk again.. :P or use fdisk -l to see what the drives look like
[10:31] <xav_> wikijeff, in /var/log
[10:31] <theacolyte> Dr_willis: All I really want to do is disable my laptops LCD, and display on my external monitor... this is turning out to be a nightmare
[10:31] <xav_> theacolyte, hm, so it's not dualhead, is it?
[10:31] <kjm> collier_ : that lists a lot of stuff - what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[10:31] <theacolyte> xav_: not if I can help it
[10:31] <WillEyedOney> anyone running xephem?
[10:31] <xav_> theacolyte, what?
[10:31] <collier_> I want to just host some stuff
[10:32] <xav_> theacolyte, anyway, there could be a Clone mode
[10:32] <kjm> host what and how?
[10:32] <jshamash66> Dr_willis: what will running smb4k do? (will it help?)
[10:32] <theacolyte> xav_: My laptop doesn't work with a docking station, but I want to use my 24" fpw,
[10:32] <collier_> Just host files
[10:32] <pike_> collier_: ftp server? web server?
[10:32] <simo1> Dr_willis: fdisk -l returns my partitions, (which gparted doesnt recognize), it says partition table entries are not in disk order
[10:32] <paquito> some one to talk... it the first time in here
[10:32] <collier_> web server
[10:32] <xav_> theacolyte, even if you are running dualhead, you can choose the screen where you do stuff btw
[10:33] <kitche> collier_: sudo apt-get install apache
[10:33] <kjm> collier_ : apt-cache search apache
[10:33] <wikijeff> xav_: ok, http://pastebin.ca/190231
[10:33] <xav_> theacolyte, and it gives you more screen space
[10:33] <buzzy0> hello
[10:33] <kjm> read it - then apt-get install apache
[10:33] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  its a samba scanner/mounting tool .  let ya see what shares are on the network
[10:33] <buzzy0> how can i delete the booter on my hd? i use the flopppy to boot my linux but it also appears a boot on hd
[10:34] <Dr_willis> jshamash66,  windows is sort of weirf how it scans the network.. ive seen windows ignore  a share for hours.. then it suddendly shows up
[10:34] <theacolyte> xav_: Right, I run dual screen under Windows, I'm very familiar with it
[10:34] <collier_> Ok I did sudo apt-get install apache
[10:34] <collier_> Setting up apache (1.3.34-2) ...
[10:34] <collier_> dpkg: error processing apache (--configure):
[10:34] <collier_>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:34] <collier_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:34] <collier_>  apache
[10:34] <collier_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:34] <mwe> !paste
[10:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:34] <Dr_willis> theacolyte,  never messed with twinview on a laptop.  but i did similer thing with my desktop box.
[10:34] <buzzy0> how can i delete the booter on my hd? i use the flopppy to boot my linux but it also appears a boot on hd
[10:35] <buzzy0> Kamping_Kaiser: can u help me?
[10:35] <Dr_willis> buzzy0,  install a different boot loader.
[10:35] <theacolyte> Eh, I guess I just have to try it
[10:35] <Dr_willis> theacolyte,  all i did was find that example from the gentoo wikis and tweak it.
[10:35] <collier_> I got this error dpkg: error processing apache (--configure):
[10:35] <manmadha> any one tell in detail how to use eclipse?
[10:35] <theacolyte> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html is what I'm using as a guide
[10:35] <xav_> wikijeff, are you using dualhead too or something?
[10:36] <Soekisan> can some one recomend me a x windows irc client?
[10:36] <collier_> How do I open apache now?
[10:36] <pike_> collier_: might be best to read help.ubuntu.com/community/apachemysqlphp as a starting place
[10:36] <Soekisan> im using xchat now
[10:36] <wikijeff> xav_: dualhead?
[10:36] <theacolyte> Soekisan: I use Konversation
[10:37] <xav_> wikijeff, (--) I810(0): A non-CRT device is attached to pipe B.
[10:37] <Soekisan> but i dont really like it
[10:37] <pike_> collier_: once installed it will be running on bootup but you need to edit the config files etc
[10:37] <Soekisan> seems rather simple.
[10:37] <xav_> wikijeff, what is all this stuff at the end of the log
[10:38] <wikijeff> i pasted the output from typing LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo in a terminal last
[10:38] <Jowi> jshamash66: have you tried just to do a "smbclient //127.0.0.1/Download -N" and see if you can connect on the linux machine?
[10:38] <wikijeff> xav_: i pasted the output from typing LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo in a terminal last
[10:38] <collier_> pike: I dont see help on that link
[10:38] <tony_> hello, How can i start and stop Apache2 ????
[10:38] <xav_> wikijeff, I saw that
[10:39] <wikijeff> xav_: k sorry
[10:39] <xav_> wikijeff, I'm just asking about the end of the Xorg log
[10:39] <xav_> wikijeff, is this a laptop?
[10:39] <Bastupungen> If I use DNSmasq, how can i check which ip's have been given to client?
[10:39] <wikijeff> xav_: yes
[10:39] <xav_> wikijeff, are you connecting other screens to it?
[10:39] <esac_> hi, xorg-air is crashing on me .. xorg.log is http://rafb.net/paste/results/yLcSL697.html .. any ideas ?
[10:40] <wikijeff> xav_: no
[10:40] <tony_> hello, How can i start and stop Apache2 ????
[10:40] <xav_> wikijeff, oh
[10:40] <jshamash66> Jowi: I just tried that, and it worked
[10:40] <collier_> nevermind I wont setup apache.. Is there a way to uninstall it now?
[10:40] <simo1> Dr_willis:   fdisk -l says partition table entries are not in disk order - is this the problem perhaps. Any idea how to fix it?
[10:40] <Jowi> jshamash66: are you behind a router?
[10:40] <Benni> tony_: /etc/init.d/apache2 {start|stop|restart|reload}
[10:40] <pty> tony_: in a console type :    /etc/init.d/httpd stop
[10:40] <jshamash66> Jowi: yes
[10:40] <pike_> tony_: ls /etc/init.d/    and then sudo /etc/init.d/whatever start or stop or restart
[10:41] <Bastupungen> I have a problem with IPtables, It stops working like a router, NAT, randomly. Anyone who has any ideas?
[10:41] <hcjc92> i have a usbdisk mounted, is there anyway for me to chmod it, (it's in /media/usbdisk and it doens't want to let me chmod /media/usbdisk it dones't give an error, it just doesn't change the permisions)
[10:41] <tony_> thanks , i will give it a try now
[10:41] <collier_> nevermind I wont setup apache.. Is there a way to uninstall it now?
[10:41] <Jowi> jshamash66: can you ping the windows machine?
[10:42] <jshamash66> jowi: how can I tell?
[10:42] <hcjc92> i feel so unloved :P
[10:42] <Jowi> jshamash66: "ping -c 5 your.windows.machine.ip"
[10:43] <collier_> anyone?
[10:43] <xav_> wikijeff, the xorg log looks a bit messed up, it confused me
[10:43] <collier_>  Is there a way to uninstall it now?
[10:43] <xav_> wikijeff, could you try other games, like ppracer
[10:43] <niklas_e> is there any cd cover and stuff you can download and print out for ubuntu?
[10:43] <kmandla> hello everybody!
[10:43] <wikijeff> xav_: ok
[10:44] <LiraNuna> someone knows how i can disable xgl?
[10:44] <xunubu> 200MB updates on edgy, good job guys!
[10:44] <jshamash66> Jowi: yes, it worked
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Quiet in here today...
[10:44] <collier_> nevermind I wont setup apache.. Is there a way to uninstall it now?
[10:44] <xav_> xunubu, huh?
[10:45] <martincho> Hi
[10:45] <xunubu> xav_, huh?
[10:45] <martincho> Is there any way to launch the ubuntu 6.06 live cd with serial mouse?
[10:45] <xav_> xunubu, care to explain how the size of update tell about the quality of the job?
[10:45] <Jowi> jshamash66: what is the ipaddress space of your LAN? 192.168.0...?
[10:45] <tuskernini> Has anyone used Voipbuster in linux but not with ekiga?
[10:46] <martincho> I don't have ps2 mouse and can't install
[10:46] <jnfdjdfjdhgj> i had the same problem
[10:46] <xunubu> xav_: work has quality and quantity. last one is good though. first one ... time will tell
[10:46] <jshamash66> Jowi: err.. is that the result of doing ipconfig on a Windows machine?
[10:46] <xunubu> it tells me to reboot
[10:47] <CrippsFX> hey, I'm running Dapper for amd64, with kernel 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic ... I have a beautiful 19" widescreen LCD sitting right beside my laptop, displaying at 768x1280, with an extended desktop on my ati card, I cannot, however, move my mouse onto that screen. Any ideas? It worked in 32 bit ubuntu ... but it may also have been the newer kernel ...
[10:47] <Jowi> jshamash66: doesn't matter on which machine you do it. they should all start with the same numbers
[10:47] <Jowi> jshamash66: "ifconfig" on linux or "ipconfig" on windows
[10:47] <theacolyte> CrippsFX: I can't help you with that part, but I have a 24" sitting next to my laptop that's completely blank, that I can't extend my desktop onto.... lol
[10:47] <CrippsFX> (BTW, this was set up using aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1)
[10:48] <CrippsFX> theacolyte, are you running 32 bit or 64 bit?
[10:48] <theacolyte> 32
[10:48] <theacolyte> and nvidia
[10:48] <jshamash66> Jowi: so then it's 192.168.2.100
[10:48] <LiraNuna> someone knows how i can disable xgl?
[10:48] <simo1>  fdisk -l  says partition table entries are not in disk order. Anyone know how to fix?
[10:48] <wikijeff> xav_:  actually ppracer works ok
[10:48] <xav_> LiraNuna, undo what you did to enable it?
[10:48] <xav_> wikijeff, well, then either you're asking too much
[10:48] <LiraNuna> xav_, still doesn't work :*(
[10:48] <xav_> wikijeff, or the game you are trying is broken
[10:48] <Jowi> can you add "smbd: 192.168.2." (ends with a dot, do not add the last number for a specific machine) to /etc/hosts.allow just to see if that is the problem?
[10:48] <LiraNuna> no 3D acc.
[10:49] <wikijeff> xav_: a little choppy, how can I tell what fps I'm getting?
[10:49] <LiraNuna> i had it before i installed compiz
[10:49] <ne1> can anyone help me?
[10:49] <xav_> wikijeff, for ppracer, you can go in the options
[10:49] <CrippsFX> theacolyte, with kernel 2.6.17-x-i386, i686, or x86, you should be able to run "aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1" and it should work ... it was working for me, until I reinstalled 64 bit.
[10:49] <ne1> how do i know if my video card is installed properly?
[10:49] <sharju> Hey
[10:49] <wikijeff> xav_: ok thanks, I'm probably just asking too much
[10:49] <CrippsFX> theacolyte, I'm also going to ask on off-topic question based on your nickname ... are you RC?
[10:49] <xav_> wikijeff, yep, integrated chips kinda suck
[10:49] <pike_> nexsan: what card?
[10:49] <Dr_willis> ne1  - err.. it works? :P
[10:49] <nexsan> yea
[10:49] <xav_> wikijeff, switching to 16bit help though
[10:50] <nexsan> but i need to run maya
[10:50] <pty> LiraNuna: whats at the bottom of your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom file ?
[10:50] <kmandla> oops brb
[10:50] <nexsan> and default doesn't cut it with that prog...
[10:50] <LiraNuna> [server-Xgl] 
[10:50] <LiraNuna> ah
[10:50] <LiraNuna> remove it?
[10:50] <theacolyte> CrippsFX: RC? No, if it's what I think you're asking, not exactly 100% sure on what RC is
[10:50] <xav_> wikijeff, and several bugs in xorg / mesa didn't help neither
[10:50] <marshall> hey guys
[10:50] <theacolyte> reborn?
[10:50] <pty> LiraNuna: uh-huh :)
[10:50] <CrippsFX> theacolyte, Roman Coatholic
[10:50] <CrippsFX> :)
[10:50] <LiraNuna> thanks :)
[10:50] <nanno_> is it possible to have two pc's connected to sip on the same network (wan)?
[10:50] <nexsan> i installed the nvidia-glx from the packages
[10:50] <LiraNuna> exactly what i was looking for
[10:50] <nexsan> would that work?
[10:50] <CrippsFX> er ... Catholic even :P
[10:50] <marshall> does anybody know how to use usenet or easynews or anything like that for filesharing?
[10:50] <wikijeff> xav_: yeah, I need a better computer though
[10:50] <theacolyte> CrippsFX: My family just rolled over in it's grave, Russian Orthodox :P
[10:51] <LiraNuna> brb
[10:51] <Dr_willis> marshall,  look for some newsgroup tutorials.
[10:51] <jshamash66> Jowi: should I just add that line at the bottom of the text file?
[10:51] <CrippsFX> theacolyte, ahh ... my apologies. That's pretty cool too :)
[10:51] <theacolyte> hehe, no problem
[10:51] <xav_> wikijeff, only for gaming, no?
[10:51] <Jowi> yes
[10:51] <Dr_willis> marshall,  check out the binary news downloaders also. I perfer pan myself.
[10:51] <xav_> wikijeff, that's bad :)
[10:51] <CrippsFX> theacolyte, wouldn't happen to be an acolyte either, would you? ;)
[10:51] <wikijeff> xav_: getting a computer for gaming is bad?
[10:51] <sharju> Can anyone help me?
[10:51] <LiraNuna> still doesn't work :(
[10:51] <LiraNuna> no 3D acc..
[10:52] <Dr_willis> Games are for the weak
[10:52] <mypapit> offline !!!!
[10:52] <pty> you sure XGL is still running ?
[10:52] <xav_> wikijeff, yes, gaming is :)
[10:52] <drnick> marshall try this link for a good tutoeial http://www.slyck.com/ng.php
[10:52] <theacolyte> CrippsFX: I am an acolyte... an acolyte of a non-religious sort -- trying to figure out how to set up Twinview ;)
[10:52] <jshamash66> nope, still not finding it
[10:52] <CrippsFX> Dr_willis, lol
[10:52] <nexsan> so no one knows if there is a way to check if the drivers were installed correctly for nvidia?
[10:52] <wikijeff> xav_: hah, i see
[10:52] <LiraNuna> pty, how do i check?
[10:52] <CrippsFX> theacolyte, lol. :)
[10:52] <eigenlambda> the weirdest thing just happened to me
[10:52] <eigenlambda> [eigenlambda@muon:~ -_-] $ apt-cache search eclipse
[10:52] <eigenlambda> Bus error
[10:52] <pty> LiraNuna: top ?
[10:52] <LiraNuna> pty, someone said that XGL is hogging my 3D
[10:52] <drnick> nexsan did you change your /etc/X11/xorg?
[10:52] <theacolyte> lol
[10:52] <eigenlambda> ...so i rebooted
[10:52] <xav_> wikijeff, well, mostly when you spend too much time on it
[10:52] <eigenlambda> and it still does that
[10:52] <Dr_willis> nexsan,  try glxgears -showfps (or was it printfps) - look for the nvidia logo when it starts up. perhaps as well.
[10:53] <ton> why ubuntu have more users than debia and suse ?
[10:53] <hikenboot> hello all --i would like to ping the entire subnet...only once for each host with no output except a list of hosts that reply any ideas how to do this?
[10:53] <nexsan> Dr Willis
[10:53] <nexsan> ok
[10:53] <Dr_willis> !info eclipse
[10:53] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[10:53] <eigenlambda> *why* is apt-* bus error-ing?
[10:53] <pty> LiraNuna: it may be the case but unless you're sure XGL is running it may not be the case
[10:53] <jshamash66> Jowi: it didn't do anything
[10:53] <nexsan> i installed the default glx from the package
[10:53] <xav_> ton, what makes you think that?
[10:53] <wikijeff> xav_: I just need some way to relax and have a little fun, it's tough just doing work all day
[10:53] <LiraNuna> pty, i had 3D acc before i instaleld compiz
[10:53] <eigenlambda> no... apt-cache search anything gets a bus error.  apt-get update gets a bus error.  apt-get install anything gets a bus error
[10:53] <Crescendo_> Is there a version of Poser for Linux?
[10:53] <CrippsFX> woah ... surely linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64-k8 isn't the latest ubuntu amd64 kernel .... is it?
[10:53] <eigenlambda> lol wtf
[10:53] <Crescendo_> Or an alternative?
[10:54] <Jowi> jshamash66: what do you mean? "grep workgroup /etc/samba/smb.conf" give you nothing?
[10:54] <nexsan> got this Dr Willis:  Warrning: unknown parameter: -showfps
[10:54] <drnick> crippsFX you will get the latest if you use edgy
[10:54] <nexsan> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:54] <nexsan> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[10:54] <xav_> wikijeff, when you work with a computer, it's better to relax without a screen though
[10:54] <pty> ok - if you open the system monitor and look under processes with view set to 'all'
[10:54] <ton> because the channels irc are more people in ubuttu that others
[10:54] <wikijeff> xav_: I don't usually work with a computer, mostly paper and pencil or reading
[10:54] <kitche> Crescendo_: there is no alternative for poser that is free for linux
[10:54] <CrippsFX> drnick, well, I've got time and such invested in dapper right now, I can't afford to upgrade right now ....
[10:55] <marshall> hi drnick
[10:55] <drnick> yeah if you dont go to edgy right now (its still not final) then you will not always get the latest kernel
[10:55] <nexsan> i have no freaking idea how to do this...
[10:55] <nexsan> :(
[10:55] <jshamash66> Jowi: oooh I see... well then, it told me workgroup=RSWCA
[10:55] <marshall> drnick, thanks
[10:55] <theacolyte> Is MonitorHorizSync/Vert Refresh required, and if so, how can I easily find the values for say my 24" fp
[10:55] <CrippsFX> drnick, dang.
[10:55] <psycose> hi all
[10:55] <nexsan> brb
[10:55] <drnick> no porblem marshll thats the one i used to get started
[10:56] <Jowi> jshamash66: and that is the exact workgroup name of the windows machine?
[10:56] <xav_> theacolyte, it's required if ddc isn't working
[10:56] <CrippsFX> theacolyte, that's more for CRTs, which would explode if you put in the wrong values :P
[10:56] <theacolyte> hah
[10:56] <theacolyte> That's what I thought
[10:56] <xav_> theacolyte, and you find these in the screen's manual
[10:56] <theacolyte> oh
[10:56] <theacolyte> The manual I used as kindling the other day
[10:57] <Jowi> theacolyte: HorizSync is not needed if you have a LCD monitor
[10:57] <wikijeff> Will there be any reason not to upgrade to Edgy Eft once it's final version is released?
[10:58] <wrtpeeps> my internet settings are wrong, does someone know the command wher ei can change my gateway ip etc for a wired connection?
[10:58] <xav_> wikijeff, maybe if you have everything working fine in dapper
[10:58] <jshamash66> Jowi: yes
[10:58] <drnick> wrtpeeps you on gnome or kde/
[10:58] <Jowi> theacolyte: set VertRefresh to 60 if you have an LCD (safe value)
[10:58] <xav_> wikijeff, and/or don't have time to upgrade
[10:58] <theacolyte> yeah did that
[10:59] <kothz> wrtpeeps: look in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:59] <theacolyte> well
[10:59] <xav_> Jowi, are you sure ?
[10:59] <theacolyte> here comes the X11 restart
[10:59] <wikijeff> xav_: well what's usually involved in upgrading? is it a time intensive process?
[10:59] <theacolyte> time to see a complete meltdown
[10:59] <psycose> any good url related to the installation of Ubuntu on Sun Blade 150?
[10:59] <Jowi> xav_: pretty much.
[10:59] <wrtpeeps> drnick: command line only
[10:59] <eigenlambda> i see.  apt-cache gets a bus error from "0xb7e78ec9 in std::string::compare () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6"
[10:59] <wrtpeeps> its my server
[10:59] <drnick> wrtpeeps, did you specify a static, if so then look in the /etc/network/interfaces like mentioned
[10:59] <xav_> Jowi, my lcd screen manual had horiz and vert refresh value
[10:59] <eigenlambda> std::string::compare fucked up.  lol.
[10:59] <xav_> Jowi, both in vga and dvi mode (and different values)
[10:59] <eigenlambda> typical.  i h8 cpp
[11:00] <Mille> any keyboard keys I could push when a program hangs and i can't click anything (can move the mouse though)? been waiting for 5 mins now, nothing happens, heh
[11:00] <Mille> using the live cd
[11:00] <xav_> wikijeff, it's generally cleaner to reinstall
[11:00] <Jowi> xav_: if I set HorizSync to the value written in my manual I get no image on my LCD :)
[11:00] <drnick> Mille push ctrl+alt+f2 then run "top" of use "killall programname"
[11:00] <wikijeff> ah, so I'd have to set everything up again from scratch?
[11:00] <xav_> wikijeff, so it involves backing up (which you should always do anyway :)), reinstalling, and reconfiguring stuff like you want them
[11:00] <Mille> cool
[11:00] <theacolyte> lol well
[11:00] <Jowi> jshamash66: my bet is... hold your breath.... software firewall(s). if you have norton installed - uninstall it (disabling won't do you any good)
[11:01] <theacolyte> this is interesting
[11:01] <xav_> Jowi, ha :)
[11:01] <nexsan> anyone know where i can find a comprehensible (newbie) guide to installing the latest nvidia driver?
[11:01] <kitche> psycose: is that sparc or x86_64?
[11:01] <Mille> drnick, even that doesn't work xD
[11:01] <kothz> !nvidia nexsan
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia nexsan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <Mille> drnick, no reaction from it pushing those buttons.
[11:01] <kothz> !nvidia
[11:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:01] <kothz> (er, there, nexsan :)
[11:01] <psycose> kitche, oops sorry sparc
[11:01] <Mille> i guess i have to reboot
[11:01] <Jowi> xav_: and all LCDs is compatible with 60 vertrefresh as far as I have seen
[11:01] <theacolyte> so when I switch over to a console window, it goes to my LCD (ctrl-alt-f1), but X goes right to the laptop screen
[11:01] <kitche> psycose: ubuntu doesn't have a sparc version
[11:01] <drnick> mille hmm you could try alt=f4 , can you run other progrmams in the meantime?
[11:01] <theacolyte> I've never seen an LCD that did more or less than 60hz
[11:02] <jshamash66> Jowi: I'm using ZoneAlarm security suite- should I uninstall it?
[11:02] <xav_> Jowi, I think some are running at 75 or something, but I'm not sure
[11:02] <Mille> drnick, nope. can click anything. it doesnt responde to the actions.
[11:02] <kothz> My LCD will swing up to 75
[11:02] <xav_> see :)
[11:02] <jkku3> Mac OS X, the Ubuntu version
[11:02] <psycose> kitche, SPARC server install CD http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-server-sparc.iso
[11:02] <theacolyte> brb, closing out X and trying my twinview implementation
[11:02] <Jowi> jshamash66: should be enough if you deactivate ZoneAlarm. it is a quite resonable program.
[11:03] <kothz> I'm feeling the pull of Guinness.  Methinks it time to go home
[11:03] <wrtpeeps> drnick: i did set a static
[11:03] <kai> Hi Leute! wei jemand wie man diese schwarzen rahmen beim minimieren von fenstern ausblenden kann?
[11:03] <kitche> psycose: well didn't look at the server install but you should be able to boot from the cd and install or doesn't it work?
[11:03] <Ander> Hello
[11:03] <wrtpeeps> drnick: it aint working though, so i think another setting is wrong
[11:03] <drnick> Mille the only thing left to try I guess would be restart, if you have a program that freezes and you can get into a terminal then you can use the killall command to force quit it
[11:03] <jshamash66> Jowi: it's strange, because with ZoneAlarm enabled, my XP computer can find other XP computers. Doesn't that mean it should be able to find my Ubuntu computer as well?
[11:03] <wrtpeeps> drnick: this is a wired connection on my wireles router
[11:03] <Jowi> xav_: yeah, mine support it as well. but 60 is safe for it
[11:03] <theunruled> =D I got my NTFS to run
[11:03] <drnick> wrtpeeps did you set the static in the  /etc/nwtwork/interfaces file?
[11:03] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know the name of the program I have to install to watch Windows media videos online?
[11:03] <jkku3> is it possible to write to NTFS now?
[11:04] <kitche> jshamash66: Don't think Windows machines can see linux automatically
[11:04] <Ander> Any way to install xgl on ubuntu dapper??
[11:04] <Jowi> jshamash66: try it and you will know.
[11:04] <Mille> drnick, i see. what does 'killall' actually mean? can't kill all apps, can it? just those that's not responding maybe?
[11:04] <psycose> kitche, lol yes there are lot's of way to install it but i'm looking for some user experiences ...
[11:04] <kai> hey guys! does anybody know how to disable this black borders, which are drawed while minimizing a window#?
[11:04] <CrippsFX> jkku3, possible, but still not recommended
[11:04] <jshamash66> Jowi: ok, thanks for all the help
[11:04] <jkku3> k
[11:04] <wrtpeeps> drnick: i set it during install and just verified in that file
[11:04] <xav_> Mille, some commands are quite badly named
[11:04] <drnick> millie you would use "killall gaim" for example to kill gaim, you have to specift the name of the app
[11:04] <Jowi> np jshamash66
 try vlc or mplayer
[11:04] <Mille> xav_, so what does it do? xD
[11:04] <kitche> psycose: probably no one has that experience here at least on a sparc
[11:05] <xav_> Mille, and kill doesn't kill neither, it sends signal (so in particular, it can send kill one)
[11:05] <xav_> Mille, and it does what drnick said
[11:05] <psycose> kitche, well how do you know ?
[11:05] <kai> hey guys! does anybody know how to disable this black borders, which are drawed while minimizing a window#?
[11:05] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:05] <drnick> wrtpeeps does that file contain 3 lines called address, netmask, and gateway?
[11:05] <Mille> xav_, oh i missed that. didn't highlight me. thanks for the explanation.
[11:05] <kitche> psycose: sicne the server install has it's own channel #ubuntu-server
[11:06] <glut> anyone knows if 2.6.18 is about to be a part of edgy (or whatever else) ? need it to install ubuntu on G965 chipset. installer finds no disk/cdrom on 2.6.17-10
[11:06] <Mille> drnick, I understand. Thank you. :-)
[11:06] <wrtpeeps> drnick: yep
[11:06] <psycose> kitche, oh thanks
[11:06] <kitche> psycose: in there they might have more experience with a sparc system
[11:06] <xav_> glut, no it doesn't
[11:06] <Aprox> oops
[11:06] <wrtpeeps> address: 192.168.2.7 ; netmask: 225.225.225.0 ; gateway: 192.168.2.1
[11:06] <wrtpeeps> drnick: ^^
[11:07] <wrtpeeps> the ; is a newline
[11:07] <xav_> glut, but the 2.6.17 version used isn't actually 2.6.17 . it's heavily patched
[11:07] <drnick> wrtpeeps try running "sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" that will disable the network card and reenable it, it may give you a error message
[11:07] <w30> nexsan, use Synaptic package manager and install nvidia-gxl and nvidia-kernel-common (and nvidia-xconfig to help you configure your xorg.config file)
[11:07] <wrtpeeps> k
[11:07] <glut> xav_: whatever it is, it doesn't run on G965
[11:07] <xav_> glut, other people may have similar problems, just search
[11:08] <xav_> glut, on launchpad, and on ubuntu forums too maybe
[11:08] <glut> xav_: found only debian hints, but I could have missed stuff
[11:08] <v3rt3x> anyone know how to blacklist a module from being loaded?
[11:08] <boink> blacklist?
[11:08] <kitche> !blacklist > v3rt3x
[11:08] <v3rt3x> yeah, keep a module from being loaded
[11:09] <CaptainMorgan> what's the reason why a laptops' trackpoint is significantly slower than a mouse? if you set one, the other is off track and vice versa
[11:09] <wrtpeeps> drnick: no luck
[11:09] <drnick> add the module name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:09] <kitche> v3rt3x that should help you what ubotu sent you
[11:09] <wrtpeeps> drnick: no change, but no error
[11:09] <v3rt3x> bots rick
[11:09] <v3rt3x> rock
[11:09] <keleus> Hello everyone... trying to do something wierd:
[11:09] <wrtpeeps> drnick: although
[11:09] <wrtpeeps> drnick: my router logs
[11:09] <drnick> wrtpeeps I assume that : after gateway isnt actually in the file?
[11:09] <wrtpeeps> drnick: show defragmentation errors
[11:10] <wrtpeeps> drnick: no it aint
[11:10] <nightripe> hi
[11:10] <nightripe> has anyone install ubuntu 6.06 on raid 0 with sata system ???? and ready ?
[11:10] <keleus> i have a samba server configured and set up, and i want to connect to it through an SSH tunnel from a windows box. I can make putty do the forwarding, but does anyone know how to get windows to look at a port other than 139/445 for samba stuff? (i cant have putty listen on 139/445 as a non admin, and windows already uses those ports)
[11:10] <nightripe> i can't install ubuntu on my computer and windows no too
[11:10] <drnick> wrtpeeps not sure what exactly  would cause defrag errors, never heard of them before. Hs the internet ever worked on that setup?
[11:11] <tony_> why do i get this message when i use gksudo ?
[11:11] <nightripe> can anyone help me for installing ubuntu 6.06 on my computer plz ??
[11:11] <tony_> (nautilus:7379): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:11] <tony_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:11] <theacolyte> Well that didn't work
[11:11] <theacolyte> Do I have to define the other monitor in xorg.conf for the 2nd monitor to work, everything I'm reading indicates that I don't -- I think you do
[11:11] <Wulong> Is it stupid to start from a server install to build my desktop?
[11:12] <Ander> wulong
[11:12] <v3rt3x> Wulong: yes
[11:12] <Ander> no
[11:12] <kitche> Wulong: no not really
[11:12] <nightripe> no people can help me ?? :((((
[11:12] <motin> I am mounting my ext2 partitions from windows - which currently makes it impossible to boot the windows partition in vmware. Is there any way to bind the ext2-mounts to the "native" machine hardware profile I made and have it not load in the "virtual" profile? it is rather necessary to not risk corrupt data...
[11:12] <Ander> if you are an advanced user
[11:12] <chez> hi
[11:12] <pike_> Wulong: no if you dont want all those other packages its the thing to do
[11:12] <v3rt3x> nightripe: ask a specific question and you might get an answer
[11:12] <wrtpeeps> drnick: i cant seem to find where to view the net settings for this computer
[11:13] <wrtpeeps> drnick: this one is connected wirelessly though
[11:13] <Wulong> Ander: Beyond
[11:13] <drnick> wrtpeeps you can run ifconfig wth0 to see the setup
[11:13] <nightripe> v3rt3x:  ok, i can't install ubuntu on my computer : p4p800 with 1x ide 160 GO hdd 2X 160 GO sata (raid 0 configured in bios) how can i install it ?
[11:13] <drnick> 'eth0'
[11:13] <wrtpeeps> drnick: this computer is windows
[11:13] <wrtpeeps> drnick: :P
[11:13] <Ander> wulong:use apt-get
[11:14] <nightripe> v3rt3x: i can see 3 partitions on my computer
[11:14] <v3rt3x> nightripe: first of all, you are not going to be able to use sata fakeraid on linux
[11:14] <v3rt3x> nightripe: turn raid off in the bios
[11:15] <john__> i'm screwed
[11:15] <drnick> wrtpeeps oh your in windows now? then try start-run then "cmd" then "ipconfig /all"
[11:15] <nightripe> 1xide master hda      1xsda scsi 1   (0,0,0)sda 163GO  1xsda scsci 2 (0,0,0)sda 163 GO
[11:15] <wrtpeeps> drnick: oh cheers
[11:15] <john__> i need help big time
[11:15] <Wulong> Ander: I will, done this before, 100 times, atlest (on other distros)
[11:15] <v3rt3x> nightripe: put the cd in, pick your disk and go
[11:15] <nightripe> v3rt3x: ok  ...i'm going to turn off raid system.....
[11:15] <maccam94> i've got 2 sound cards, a pci x-fi and onboard sis 7012 (intel8x0). i'm unable to get any sound, even though the drivers are loaded. help?
[11:15] <john__> i have no X
[11:15] <v3rt3x> maccam94: check the mixer settins
[11:15] <maccam94> (i'm trying to get the sis to work btw)
[11:15] <Ander> well ,
[11:16] <noumaan> my keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key
[11:16] <maccam94> v3rt3x: what are things that should most definitely be set a certain way? the volume for everything is maxed
[11:16] <nightripe> v3rt3x:  but, can i install ubuntu on 1 sata disk ?
[11:16] <john__> X wont load
[11:16] <Dr_willis> maccam94,  the x-fi  is creatives newest card aint it?
[11:16] <wrtpeeps> drnick: my settings in widnows are the same s the linux box except for a different ip
[11:16] <v3rt3x> nightripe: yes, just specify during installation
[11:16] <john__> i can't even use the 'vesa' driver
[11:16] <john__> what the heck is going on?
[11:16] <Ander> wulong: sorry, but i am not a native english speaker :P  , but ill try to understand you
[11:16] <kitche> john_: what does X say?
[11:17] <linuxactivist> maccam94:  double click on the speaker icon in the upper right.  Choose File --> Change Device and make sure you have the right device chosen.
[11:17] <drnick> wrtpeeps that is odd, you cant ping your gateway in linux?
[11:17] <pike_> john__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  didnt work?
[11:17] <v3rt3x> maccam94: indeed
[11:17] <nightripe> v3rt3x: ok i m going to see that
[11:17] <john__> pike_ nope
[11:17] <john__> see i'm running edgy
[11:17] <maccam94> linuxactivist: all that's available is the sis, the x-fi is unsupported and unconfigured. all i can choose is oss or alsa
[11:17] <john__> plus beta nvidia drivers
[11:17] <pike_> been playing with xgl?
[11:17] <mikefoo> I connect to server A via ssh, I transfer from server A to server B, I disconnect my ssh seession from server A. Will my transfer still keep going?
[11:17] <john__> and dist-upgrade messed up X
[11:17] <john__> pike_ of course
[11:18] <john__> pike_ actually beryl
[11:18] <boink> mikefoo: no
[11:18] <kitche> john__: you using xgl or aiglx since beryl just sits on top of them
[11:18] <wrtpeeps> drnick: nope :(
[11:18] <Ander> beryl is a fork of xgl ????
[11:18] <wrtpeeps> drnick: ping 192.168.2.1 = dest unreachable
[11:18] <john__> kitche it shouldn't matter
[11:18] <john__> Ander yes
[11:18] <mikefoo> boink: what do I need to do then?
[11:19] <wrtpeeps> drnick: my router uses wep
[11:19] <john__> X should start regardless
[11:19] <john__> it's the driver
[11:19] <wrtpeeps> drnick: but ive been told thats only for the wireless conecctions
[11:19] <JordanB> I need to remove Kubuntu-desktop and Ubuntu-Desktop completely, then reinstall Ubuntu-desktop from my Ubuntu server.  What apt- commands would I use for that?
[11:19] <seringen> mikefoo: use screen or something on server b to keep the connection live
[11:19] <Ander> ok , let`s see the changelog
[11:19] <drnick> wrtpeeps wep shouldnt matter for wired connections, are you sure the cord is good, does your network card light up, along with the corresponding roupter light?
[11:19] <kitche> johm_: well xgl has nothing to do with X anyways so if you have that installed it's probably an xgl issue
[11:19] <john__> kitche xgl isn't beefing
[11:19] <pike_> JordanB: tar zcfv homedir.tar.gz $HOME and then reinstall ;p
[11:20] <wrtpeeps> drnick: yep
[11:20] <wrtpeeps> thing is
[11:20] <maccam94> anybody?
[11:20] <john__> it's an API mismatch
[11:20] <nightripe> v3rt3x: when i turn off raid system..i can boot on my cd......
[11:20] <wrtpeeps> it doesnt show in my router list anyway
[11:20] <Ander> it will run on smoothly on my nvidia geforce 2mx ????
[11:20] <wrtpeeps> er
[11:20] <linuxactivist> maccam94:  Choose alsa.  Then go to System --> Preferences --> Sound and make sure that ESD is selected and that your default sound card is correct (matches the Volume Control dialog).
[11:20] <wrtpeeps> i mean
[11:20] <wrtpeeps> the client isnt listed in the router as being connected to it
[11:20] <kitche> john_: oh probably due to mesalibs then talks about DRI correct
[11:20] <matt8806suomi> hi guys and gals;     i'm looking for TELEWELL TW-EA200 ADSL modem drivers and configuration for ubuntu (gnome). Telewell is a Finnish company!!
[11:20] <nightripe> ata1: translated ata stat/err 0x51/40 to scsi SK /ASC/ASCQ etc.....
[11:20] <john__> kernel module doesn't match the X module
[11:20] <nightripe> the text is in loop
[11:21] <john__> why it needs to load a kernel module is beyond me
[11:21] <nightripe> and can't boot on cd...
[11:21] <drnick> yeah I understand what you mean with the client list, I usually dont trust it though. Mine seems to update very slow
[11:21] <wrtpeeps> drnick: mine too
[11:21] <v3rt3x> nightripe: doesn't sound good
[11:21] <wrtpeeps> but mine is usally fast at pciking up new conections
[11:21] <maccam94> linuxactivist: that's what it's set as
[11:21] <wrtpeeps> but it is really slow at dropping old ones
[11:21] <nightripe> v3rt3x:  but if i configure bios to start with IDE hdd    is booting......but i dont want to IDE is the master :-(
[11:21] <wrtpeeps> it still lists connections that have disconnected over a motnh ago
[11:21] <john__> the only solution I can think of is removing the blasted beta driver
[11:22] <JordanB> Thanks for nothing Pike...  Anyone have suggestions for me?
[11:22] <v3rt3x> nightripe: that is a secondary issue. you need to focus on your cdrom issue
[11:22] <john__> but that's hard as hell with command line
[11:22] <drnick> wrtpeeps do you have a  ubuntu forum account?
[11:22] <wrtpeeps> drnick: yep
[11:22] <nightripe> need to change cd-rom driver in bios ?
[11:22] <nightripe> *drive
[11:22] <pike_> JordanB: its going to be a pain if its anything like hoary its not worth it
[11:22] <v3rt3x> maybe
[11:23] <drnick> may be worth searching it or posting it up thier, others may have better ideas of things to check
[11:23] <CaptainMorgan> what's the reason why a laptops' trackpoint is significantly slower than a mouse? if you set one, the other is off track and vice versa
[11:23] <wrtpeeps> alright
[11:23] <matt8806suomi> Looking for TELEWELL TW-EA200 ADSL modem drivers and configuration for ubuntu (gnome). Telewell is a Finnish company!! Can anybody help me please?
[11:23] <wrtpeeps> drnick: thanks for your help
[11:23] <drnick> no poblem , hope you get it working
[11:23] <Rozabela> who fancies helping me??
[11:24] <[GuS] > people, some knows an app. to take snapshots (or record) from a webcam and upload to ftp? (other than camstream)?
[11:24] <linuxactivist> Rozabela: What's the problem?
[11:24] <eigenlambda> apt is crashing in std::string::compare in debPackagesIndex::FindInCache
[11:24] <JordanB> Pike:  Is there a way to force apt-get to reinstall the package even though I already have the latest?
[11:24] <Rozabela> trying to install 5.10, and it's failing at install base system
[11:24] <pike_> JordanB: the metapackage? like ubuntu-desktop or just a real package?
[11:25] <Rozabela> looked on all the forums, and nothing is helping
[11:25] <kitche> Rozabela: is that hoary?
[11:25] <JordanB> pike:  well metapackage would be great, but otherwise I just need to remove gnome and kde to the point where it will allow me to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[11:25] <britt> how can i list available APs using some iwconfig tool
[11:26] <Rozabela> linuxactivist: do you mind if we do private, all the text gets confusing?
[11:26] <noumaan> my keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key
[11:26] <linuxactivist> Why are you installing 5.10 instead of 6.06?
[11:26] <pike_> JordanB: you can unistall a package that is very common for dependancy and it will remove alot of it not sure offhand what would be best
[11:26] <linuxactivist> Rozabela: sure?  You invite.
[11:26] <Rozabela> only install i have
[11:27] <britt> Rozabela: i would highly suggest getting 6.10
[11:27] <JordanB> pike:  thanks, so what are the primary packages in gnome and kde?
[11:27] <drnick> britt read the man page for iwconfig, if i recall its iwconfig wlan0 scan
[11:27] <Rozabela> linuxactivist: invited
[11:28] <pike_> JordanB: sorry not really sure ive been using barebones installs for a while xfce and flux
[11:28] <pike_> i suck at desktop support anymore for ubuntu :)
[11:29] <JordanB> pike:  I am heading in that direction.  I have been amazed at what I can still get done using only ubuntu-server.  I had a bug tracker up and running on the LAMP in 2 hours including format and install.  Thanks for the help.
[11:29] <w30>    pike_ Does xfce have drag and drop?
[11:30] <tophre> I am looking for anyone who has a wireless laptop running edgy.  i have a question
[11:31] <tekian_> Does anyone know the correct alsa driver to use with the Dell Inspiron 9400 (e1705)? I'm attempting to get a "Mono Master" slider on my alsa-mixer in order to control the subwoofer.
[11:32] <REALFLEO> hi everybody
[11:32] <matt8806suomi> tophre: what's the question
[11:32] <Rozabela> linuxactivist: are messages working, my status window is saying they are blocked
[11:32] <cpk2> is it safe to get the 686 kernel image (yes I have an i686)
[11:33] <tophre> my wireless works but my connection icon on the panel is way too long
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> cpk2: yes
[11:33] <REALFLEO> what is the command to know information abou the release version on my ubuntu server
[11:33] <psycose> Anyone has any experience about Ubuntu server on Sun blade 150/Sparc ?
[11:33] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  of course.. :P sort of useless to have it  if it wasent safe. :P
[11:33] <cpk2> fyrestrtr: nothing should break correct?
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> REALFLEO: lsb_release -a
[11:34] <Dr_willis> using the 686 kernel right now
[11:34] <cpk2> well i suppose, but I guess the question is more to make sure nothing should break when i upgrade to 686
[11:34] <REALFLEO> bash: lsb_release: command not found
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> cpk2: it shouldn't. Some people have reported issues with wifi. Remember that if you have any binary drivers (like drivers for your video card) you will need to fetch new headers and re-install them against the new kernel's files.
[11:34] <pike_> REALFLEO: cat /etc/*release will work on alot of systems
[11:34] <ukplum> Hi everyone, i have searched the faq, forums, guides etc but i am unable to find information regarding my problem. I wish to install 6.0.6 from cd without booting into the xserver screen ( no gui ). can anyone help?
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> ukplum: boot from the alternate install cd.
[11:35] <tekian_> Does anyone know the correct alsa driver to use with the Dell Inspiron 9400 (e1705)? I'm attempting to get a "Mono Master" slider on my alsa-mixer in order to control the subwoofer.
[11:35] <habeeb> Hello, I cant watch .avi files :/
[11:35] <ukplum> thankyou fyrestrtr
[11:35] <Rozabela> has anyone else had problems with the 5.10 breezy?
[11:35] <tophre> matt8806suomi:  is your connection icon on the panel longer than usual?
[11:35] <REALFLEO> it doesn't work the cat command
[11:36] <trappist> Rozabela: most of us don't even remember breezy, but if you could be more specific, we might still be helpful
[11:36] <matt8806suomi> longer?
[11:36] <JordanB> can I update to EdgyEft beta without using the GUI manager?
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> REALFLEO: what are you running?
[11:36] <habeeb> !avi > habeeb
[11:36] <britt> how can i list available APs using some iwconfig tool
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot > habeeb
[11:36] <britt> tried iwconfig eth1 scan
[11:36] <britt> and it didnt work
[11:36] <Rozabela> trappist: base install system failure
[11:36] <britt> and eth1 really IS my wireless card
[11:36] <rixth> How can I get my color depth? I think it's 16 cause I'm seeing bad banding.
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> britt: iwlist
[11:37] <REALFLEO> that's the thing I'm not sure, it was a hoary 5.10 and I tried to update
[11:37] <ruzgar> !xorg
[11:37] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:37] <Dr_willis> JordanB,  i would advise against updating to edgy at this time.
[11:37] <habeeb> I can see any other type of video, but I cant watch .avi... Why? :/
[11:37] <tophre> matt8806suomi:  yes, it has a lot of extra space on the left and right of the signal level
[11:37] <ruzgar> i there a website about xorg confuguration
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> rixth: grep DefaultDepth /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:37] <Dr_willis> habeeb,  depends on the video codec the avi is using.. try other players, xine, vlc, mplayer
[11:37] <habeeb> Tried them all...
[11:37] <habeeb> Well, not vlc
[11:37] <habeeb> I'll try it, now
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> habeeb: install the drivers from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:38] <cesar> hello everyone
[11:38] <JordanB> Dr_willis:  thanks, I am just stuck.  I need to get Gnome reinstalled and I am just not sure where to start.  I thought updating might be easiest.
[11:38] <Dr_willis> habeeb,  its highly possible its some funky avi codec thats not supported
[11:38] <cpk2> hrmm kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686 isnt that a little old?
[11:38] <rixth> fyrestrtr, is there another way? I know what I have set in there but I'm unsure whether it is being applied
[11:38] <habeeb> I see.
[11:38] <habeeb> Ok thx
[11:38] <britt> iwlist what?
[11:38] <Dr_willis> JordanB,  you did good - if you managed to break gnome. :P
[11:38] <britt> just iwlist
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> rixth: you can check the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:38] <REALFLEO> what's the procedure when u update an old version
[11:38] <trappist> !update
[11:38] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:38] <rixth> JordanB, just install Edgy? Some of the gnome improvments are excellent
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> britt: iwlist yourinterface scanning
[11:38] <REALFLEO> like going from hoary to dapper ?
[11:39] <matt8806suomi> tophre: what is the name of the monitoring app?
[11:39] <britt> failed to read scan data
[11:39] <britt> hmm
[11:39] <mikeconcepts> Does anyone have an explaination as to why vmplayer runs XP so fast under Ubuntu? It seems as fast as native XP to me.
[11:39] <trappist> REALFLEO: I'm not sure hoary to dapper is supported
[11:39] <rixth> REALFLEO, do _NOT_ apt-get upgrade to Edgy.
[11:39] <britt> this gets more intresting now
[11:39] <trappist> mikeconcepts: it doesn't emulate anything.  there's no reason for it to be slow.
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> mikeconcepts: because you haven't loaded any device drivers in it.
[11:39] <trappist> mikeconcepts: well it does emulate some stuff, but not the processor
[11:39] <habeeb> I'm thinking of buying a completely unknown mp3 player from a local company, here. Its a product of the company, and you cant find it anywhere else. There is no way that there are drivers or anything for linux, but what are the chances that it will work on Ubuntu? :(
[11:39] <tophre> matt8806suomi:  its the standard network monitor that comes on the panel by default
[11:39] <mikeconcepts> I see
[11:40] <britt> oh i see how it works
[11:40] <britt> :)
[11:40] <Dr_willis> habeeb,  if the company had ANY brains at all - the device will showup as a standard usb hard drive.
[11:40] <JordanB> rixth: can I install edgy from terminal?
[11:40] <rixth> habeeb, does it require special software to put songs on, or does it just show up as a USB key
[11:40] <REALFLEO> can update my system release after release ?
[11:40] <mirak> is it normalis it normal that I can't chroot from dapper into edgy ?
[11:40] <noumaan> my keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key
[11:40] <rixth> JordanB, no way Jose.
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> habeeb: if it will work as an external disk in Windows, it will work as an external disk in ubuntu.
[11:40] <JordanB> rixth, figures
[11:40] <luke-Jr_work> habeeb: ask the company for the source for the drivers, and look and see if they are standard USB mass storage
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> noumaan: get a new keyboard.
[11:40] <habeeb> rixth: No idea. The info page, just shows some general specs, and a firmware upgrade link, nothing else. Seems like a garbage, but its cheap and it has some disk space, so I'm thinking of buying it.
[11:41] <davidmacintosh> mirak: I've done it a number of times
[11:41] <kupesoft> What is the good new lenovo/ibm laptop that has complete ubuntu support?
[11:41] <noumaan> fyrestrtr,  but i cant buy one right now
[11:41] <trappist> fyrestrtr: that's not really helpful
[11:41] <matt8806suomi> tophre: right click and hit about, tell me the name and version, please
[11:41] <cpk2> Dr_willis: for 686 the latest package the repos have is 2.4.27?
[11:41] <rixth> JordanB, the entire way Ubuntu starts was changed in Edgy (init). I apt-get upgraded, then my machine would not boot. After I sorted it out, I was told in #ubuntu+1 that this happens. It really should be in the topic in there.
[11:41] <BlueLaguna> how do I change the font DPI?
[11:41] <noumaan> fyrestrtr,  i need a temporary solution to continue wiork until i replace it
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> kupesoft: most have great support. Try the thinkwiki for more specifics. Try the new T60
[11:41] <REALFLEO> why that lsb_release command is not working on my system
[11:41] <whitedeth> what is that fix for flash player sound not working?
[11:41] <luke-Jr_work> habeeb: do they come with drivers, or does XP autodetect it?
[11:41] <BlueLaguna> My fonts with this driver are huge
[11:42] <Dr_willis> noumaan,  try the keyboard in the console, see if it works properly there..its odd that both shift keys would go bad.
[11:42] <whitedeth> anyone know it?
[11:42] <almimoni> hi every body, how can i stop downloading file with (Wget) that downloading on the background?
[11:42] <whitedeth> !flash
[11:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <habeeb> No idea.
[11:42] <tophre> matt8806suomi:  Network Monitor 2.12.0
[11:42] <JordanB> Well, basically I need to remove and reinstall Gnome then.  Has anyone been through that process?
[11:42] <rixth> habeeb, could you just say "Can I test this?", do you have a laptop? Or send an email asking if you need special software
[11:42] <habeeb> No idea luke-Jr_work
[11:42] <Dr_willis> almimoni,  kill the proccess based on its PID.
[11:42] <luke-Jr_work> habeeb: well without any information whatsoever, I doubt anyone can help
[11:42] <rukuartic> I'm looking to move into Eft, and do a complete reinstall. I'm planning to just copy my home directory to a safe spot and copy it back once the new version's in. Any tips?
[11:42] <habeeb> luke-Jr_work: True. rixth I'll go tomorrow morning to check it out.
[11:42] <rixth> almimoni, killall wget
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: expect it to break :)
[11:43] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: I expected so.
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: more info at #ubuntu+1
[11:43] <rixth> habeeb, be sure to let me know how it does.
[11:43] <luke-Jr_work> habeeb: get the company to include driver source code with your purchase
[11:43] <almimoni> Dr_willis: rixth: how can i pause it?
[11:43] <GreenLantern> If anybody is available I need to know how to get my internet up and running in 6.06
[11:43] <rixth> rukuartic, Edgy is pretty sweet at the moment. Only a couple gripes
[11:43] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: Ever moved across distro versions with a fresh install?
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: sure, plenty of times.
[11:43] <Dr_willis> almimoni,  PAUSING is not the same as  Stoping. :P
[11:43] <noumaan> Dr_willis both shift keys are not working in console either
[11:43] <rukuartic> rixth: whats your biggest gripe and biggest like?
[11:43] <habeeb> Thank you guys...
[11:43] <rixth> almimoni, you can't. You've just got to hope whoever started the download started it with the -c switch.
[11:43] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: Got any tips?
[11:43] <almimoni> :)
[11:43] <Dr_willis> almimoni,  wget can resume a download with the right options..
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: /home on a separate partition works best.
[11:44] <habeeb> fyrestrtr: There were no drivers for avi there.
[11:44] <Dr_willis> noumaan,   interesting.
[11:44] <BrunoUV> hey .. Can someone tell me how to configure the ports for Azureus??? into the modem... Im use it in a network...   What numbers should i use for TCP and UDP??
[11:44] <tophre> matt8806suomi:  it is fine if i use a different icon set,  the default human theme has a bug maybe?
[11:44] <JordanB> rukuartic:  I am running edgy from a fresh install at home.  I love it.  Found a bug in gnome, they patched it and released within 24 hours.
[11:44] <habeeb> fyrestrtr: I was getting a "no video stream" error..
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> habeeb: you need the w32codecs driver
[11:44] <habeeb> I have them. I'll redownload them.
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> habeeb: sounds like a bad file then.
[11:44] <almimoni> i use wget -r -b http://ww.....
[11:44] <rukuartic> JordanB: Hur, not the biggest into bug patching etc ;P Just looking to make the fresh install easy
[11:44] <rixth> rukuartic, biggest gripe... boot takes 10 minutes if you have mdadm installed (another grip: the new boot screen is pretty, but all it is is the ubuntu logo and a progress bar, it doesnt tell you AT ALL what it is doing)
[11:44] <BrunoUV> hey .. Can someone tell me how to configure the ports for Azureus??? into the modem... Im use it in a network...   What numbers should i use for TCP and UDP??
[11:44] <noumaan> i think that by changing some keys in us  layout in /etc/x11/xkb/symbols i can assign the shift role to someother key is this possible/
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> rixth: try hitting F2
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> BrunoUV: any ports that are open.
[11:45] <matt8806suomi> ah right, that rules out the chance of it being the notification panel, which i have had problem with in the past
 Can I go update my system version after version like hoary to breezy and breezy to dapper ?
[11:45] <JordanB> rukuarti: just get the latest updates everyday.  Unless it is a development computer or a server it should be safe enough for messing with.  Bug reporting is built in.  Looks Great too!
[11:45] <rixth> Biggest like: the screen lock feature is much improved
[11:45] <rixth> The new artwork is pretty sweet too
[11:45] <GreenLantern> I need to know how to get my internet up and running in 6.06.  Anybody?
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> REALFLEO: if you upgrade now to Edgy from within dapper, it is a bit risky. Its best to do a clean install.
[11:46] <rixth> Oh, and "F-Spot" the new photo manager (replacing gthumb) I could go on and on but wont
 what sould I have done ?
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> REALFLEO: back up /home and any config files (not necessary, but helps). Then just boot from the edgy livecd, and do manual partition, and mount /home separately.
[11:48] <GreenLantern> I have a usb wireless card, and I don't even know if it's working.
 but I mean for that server I should have follow every version ... I guess
[11:48] <matt8806suomi> when i click the logout button, it takes me to the login screen without displaying a screen asking option like: switch user, lock screen, logout, restart, suspend, hibernate, shutdown!! can anyone help??
[11:48] <michael> Anyone know where the grub.conf is hidden?
[11:49] <rukuartic> michael: You don't mean menu.lst do you?
[11:49] <michael> No idea, I need to edit the default boot selectoin
[11:49] <michael> selection*
[11:49] <CaptainMorgan> what's the reason why a laptops' trackpoint is significantly slower than a mouse? if you set one, the other is off track and vice versa
[11:49] <rukuartic> michael: Yeah, thats menu.lst, /boot/grub
[11:49] <kitche> michael there is no grub.conf its' menu.lst and is in /boot/grub
[11:50] <michael> Thank you.
[11:50] <rukuartic> michael: No prob ^^
[11:50] <GreenLantern> How do I know if my wireless device is working?
[11:50] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: You can connect to the internet? :P
[11:51] <GreenLantern> I can't, no.
[11:51] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Then its not working :O
[11:51] <GreenLantern> Do I need to configure my wireless device?
[11:51] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: try "lsusb" and looking for your wireless usb thing. Is it linksys?
[11:51] <GreenLantern> Yes, it's linksys
[11:51] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: /msg me
[11:52] <Mille> lo ppl
[11:52] <Mille> isnt it possible to move a ext3 partition?
[11:52] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Ok are you using ndiswrapper?
[11:52] <judith_> how can I make VLC handle yahoo video? Right now, Totem is the default and it cannot handle the content!
[11:53] <GreenLantern> I'm starting fresh here.  I read something about that, but I don't know what it is.
[11:53] <Mille> i got a primary ntfs partition, directly fter i my ubuntu partition. trying to move it using the live cd ... but its shadowed out in gparted
[11:53] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Try "lsusb" and see what number it spits out for your wireless adapter
[11:54] <GreenLantern> Where do I do that?
[11:54] <trappist> Mille: not sure if that's supported with ntfs
[11:54] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Inside a terminal, open up gnome-terminal or something
[11:54] <GreenLantern> Ok.  What do I do after that?
[11:54] <Mille> trappist, well, im not touching the ntfs...
[11:55] <Mille> trappist, trying to move the ext3 directly after it.
[11:55] <zmo> hi
[11:55] <Mille> trappist, just mentioned it incase it has anything to do with it.. but i dubt it.
[11:55] <zmo> I got a weird sound card problem
[11:55] <zmo> my emu10k1 driver is loaded into the kernel, my sblive is shown in lspci
[11:55] <AgEnT-0016> how do i get the new ubuntu edgy????
[11:56] <Dr_willis> !egdy
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about egdy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <GreenLantern> rukuartic: What do I do with the number that lsusb spits out?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> !edgy!
[11:56] <porkpie> Hi guy's can any one tell me when there will be a new release to fix the Dell 1950 problems ???
[11:56] <zmo> but /proc/asound/modules
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <zmo> I got nothing
[11:56] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Give it to me :P
[11:56] <rukuartic> it should be something like XXXX:XXXX
[11:56] <Dr_willis> !edgy
[11:56] <GreenLantern> Ok, be right back.
[11:56] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:56] <Dr_willis> lol
[11:56] <pike_> AgEnT-0016: you have dapper right now?
[11:56] <trappist> zmo: what about /proc/asound/cards... and, you probably want the snd-emu10k1 module
[11:56] <zmo> it's getting mad about that
[11:57] <AgEnT-0016> yes pike_
[11:57] <Mille> !schedule
[11:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:57] <zmo> trappist - snd_emu10k1           133476  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
[11:57] <zmo> in lsmod
[11:57] <trappist> zmo: and, what about /proc/asound/cards
[11:57] <zmo> and in cards I only got UART
[11:57] <zmo> 1 [UART           ] : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
[11:57] <pike_> AgEnT-0016: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   once in gedit do a find and replace find dapper and replace with breezy save the changes the do sudo apt-get update and then sudo dist-upgrade and then pray
[11:57] <zmo> it's *pretty* weird
[11:57] <porkpie> Dr_willis:will there be a 6.0.6.2 version of dapper .....to fix the PERC 5/i and Broadcom issues on the Dell PE1950
[11:57] <trappist> zmo: if you've been loading and unloading modules, your best bet is to reboot as a first step
[11:57] <pike_> AgEnT-0016: ach replace with edgy
[11:58] <judith_> how can I make VLC handle yahoo video? Right now, Totem is the default and it cannot handle the content!
[11:58] <zmo> trappist - done
[11:58] <zmo> trappist - I may have messed out modprobe.d
[11:58] <zmo> though I don't think I did anything harmful
[11:58] <Dr_willis> porkpie, no clue - ask in  on the edgy channel/check the edgy forums
[11:58] <porkpie> OK
[11:59] <trappist> zmo: ubuntu's very capable of dealing with an sblive! card, so unless you've messed up some kernel modules there's no reason it should be in lspci but not in /proc/asound/cards
[11:59] <AgEnT-0016> spike_ can you repeat it coz i got disconnected
[11:59] <cpk2> to upgrade my kernel to 686 do i want to apt-get linux-686 or linux-image-686 ?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  install them both..
[11:59] <pike_> AgEnT-0016: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   once in gedit do a find and replace find dapper and replace with edgy save the changes the do sudo apt-get update and then sudo dist-upgrade and then pray
[11:59] <zmo> trappist - well, I had issues because I have 3 sound cards
[11:59] <Mille> shouldnt it be possible tom move the ext3 partition i installed ubuntu on? want to move it forward a bit
[11:59] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  i think one insalls the other as well :P
[11:59] <zmo> one on USB, one in my motherboard, and the sblive
[11:59] <physicsnick> dumb question, how do i view my syslog?
[11:59] <zmo> and I wanted it to be first
[12:00] <Mille> im using my live cd and gparted right now, but the move-button is shadowed out
[12:00] <pike_> AgEnT-0016: let me try again the last command is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <cpk2> Dr_willis: ok so i suppose apt-get will take over and do the correct thing then if i get the metapackage =)
[12:00] <trappist> zmo: those issues can be worked with, but only if the cards are in /proc/asound/cards, which they should be unless you have an unsupported card or have messed with the loading of kernel modules
[12:00] <zmo> so I did change the modprobe.d files
[12:00] <avagant> Ok, why is my "skt" file have like 1000 files in it?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  i could of had the whole system installed in the time its taken you to worry about the 686 kernel. :P
[12:00] <zmo> to get the sblive before the other one
[12:00] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm... the ubuntu package from the reps for kxdocker doesn't seem to include any configuration-file at all the the program reports it and doesn't start... what to do?
[12:01] <trappist> zmo: to set a card as the default card, sudo asoundconf set-default-card [card name as given by asoundconf list]