=== ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@202.124.98.26] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Huwshimi [n=huw@59.167.203.12] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B75D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:28] hi all :) === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B75D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === aboe [n=aboe@tb-c-76ec.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:44] hi aboe :) [09:45] hi nysosym [09:45] how are you [09:46] troy_s, are you busy?? === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:56] aboe: ohh i feel fine, thx [09:56] hi andreasn :) [09:56] and troy_s :) [09:57] hehe, if they are awake...looks like nap time for some people... [09:57] hi there [09:58] aboe: hehe no, i have played with some graphics :) [09:58] nysosym, I wanted to ask if the murrine-gtk engine could be included in edgy universe or multiverse repo...I think it makes a good addition to ubuntu-looks engine [09:58] what are you working on?? [10:00] aboe: nothing special, only a little learning with inkcape [10:00] inkscape is a cool program I could never get the hang of it... [10:02] hmm [10:02] aboe, there's an excellent manual written for it [10:02] i don`t understand that question (?) Can anyone help me :D [10:02] How many of these emblems are replacements for existing emblems in the Human icon set, and how many are new (in the sense that there is not already an emblem in Human?) [10:03] http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/ [10:03] I know but graphics isn't my thing...I don't have the patients for it or the skills...me just package stuff [10:03] and build [10:05] he's asking which emblems are being replaced with the human icon set. and which emblem icons are new or added by the human icon set... [10:05] I think...hehehe :) [10:06] Madpilot, that's a very good manual...like the style it's written in [10:07] yeah, it's well done [10:08] aboe: hmm i have made these emblems, to match with the human icon theme. For replace all "old" gnome emblem when human in use. [10:08] thats would be my answer ^^ [10:08] hope that's what the question was about.... [10:09] :) hehe :) [10:10] sure? ^^ [10:13] nysosym, I also got a question...about icon-themes? it's about synaptic, Only the refresh icon is themed....? [10:16] aboe: no, the refresh icon, the properties icon and the apply icon works perfectly here [10:17] only "mark all" and "search" looks like "old" [10:17] what about update and apply...I'm using the normal tango theme that can be installed with edgy [10:20] did I do something wrong when I installed the theme...or maybe there isn't any tango icons for those yet and that's why it goes back to default gnome... === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:20] how do I change the gnome splash screen ? [10:23] nysosym, you're right if I use the human theme the icons in synaptic are changed, but with the tango theme they aren't... [10:23] :) [10:24] he goodbye everybody got to go to work...bleuh :( [10:28] found it : /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ === Huwshimi [n=huw@59.167.203.12] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === mneptok [n=mneptok@mneptok.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B75D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:27] re === Huwshimi [n=huw@59.167.203.12] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:26] Hi all === lapo [n=lapo@host102-254-static.189-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:32] Hi lapo [12:33] yo fschoep [12:34] lapo: How are you doing? [12:34] doing fine, thanks [12:36] fschoep: how is the artwork refresh going? [12:36] lapo: well, we're working with Mark on creating a new GDM and wallpaper [12:36] lapo: so far, making good progress [12:36] lapo: other areas are going well, too - Theme Team work should go in shortly [12:36] lapo: Human iconset expanded, Firefox themes doing fine [12:37] lapo: now looking into adding emblems for the Human theme [12:37] lapo: and lots more :) [12:37] lapo: sounds, too! [12:37] sounds cool [12:38] apropos sound the logout sound is way too long :-/ === mneptok is trying to get permission to use a nifty script that retrieves photos from Flickr based on user-defined tags [12:38] hopefully we can have that in edgy+1 [12:39] mneptok: have you made a specification already? [12:40] no, waiting until we have permission to use it, and then trying to convince the author to attend the dev summit to work on it [12:40] mneptok: I see, I hope all goes well [12:40] if i can get those 2 things done, i'll have someone else write the spec. i'm kinda buried with other stuff. [12:41] mneptok: the author doesn't necessarily have to attend the dev summit [12:41] mneptok: I also think the deadline for sponsorship has passed [12:41] fschoep: i know, but if he does, *he* can write improvements. two words. "diminished responsibility" ;) [12:41] mneptok: so he would have to pay for the trip and accomodation :) [12:42] fschoep: he lives in the SF area. works at Pixar. [12:42] mneptok: I see, that's relatively close, isn't it? [12:44] aye [12:44] ~25 miles or so === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@96.132-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ_ [n=kristof@253.181-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B75D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:39] hi all :) [01:41] ohh very silent ^^ [01:42] hi fschoep :) [01:42] Hi nysosym [01:42] nysosym: working on your emblems now, good things do happen you see :) [01:43] sure, by problems, i`m here :D [01:43] nysosym: I've got some comments [01:44] nysosym: The circle aren't entirely round it seems, they more wide than tall [01:44] circles* [01:44] really ? *confused* [01:44] nysosym: On top of that I noticed the top gloss gradient doesn't run to white (#FFFFFF) but to some light shade of grey, was that intentional? [01:46] one moment please :) [01:46] nysosym: sure, take your time [01:49] To the 1. point i have checked some icons and these have the same height and width (in inkscake checked, only the graphic) [01:51] nysosym: odd, let me check again :) [01:52] To the 2. point, yes this is intentional, because the folder icons although didn't have a white gloss, for the emblems i have uses one to match witch the folders. :) [01:53] nysosym: right [01:53] :D [01:53] nysosym: OK, no problem then - I'll work on getting them working first, then we'll discuss details if there are any left [01:53] nysosym: deal? [01:54] some of my icons works here very good as emblem (24x24) [01:54] deal :) [01:54] mom *make s screenshot* [01:58] http://www.250kb.de/u/061004/p/c78ec8f5.png [01:59] i have checked only a few icons and all works good here :) [01:59] nysosym: looking good, are you sure emblems should be 24x24 and not 32x32? I think the default ones are 32 [01:59] is that a eagle? [01:59] eagle? [01:59] andreasn: it's a globe [01:59] andreasn: ;) [01:59] oh [01:59] ^^ [01:59] sorry [02:00] no problem [02:00] took a rough guess [02:00] andreasn: no problem, it's a bit hard to see at 24x24 so that's why I'm proposing 32 [02:00] you need to provide emblems in all sizes [02:00] fschoep: hmm thats a good point, personally i think 24x24 is a good size (on 1280x1024) [02:01] andreasn: tell me more [02:01] fschoep: well, if you use like 4000x3000 (or whatever) [02:01] andreasn: we have scalable SVGs as well, would that be good? [02:01] fschoep: the system should be able to use the scalable emblem and blow that up [02:02] andreasn: right, so we don't prerendered ones? [02:02] and if you have nautilus set to tiny folders (like 25%) you don't want blurry ones [02:02] prerender the small sizes, but supply svg as well [02:02] as prerender is faster [02:03] andreasn: I see, thanks for the advice - I'm going to try and get them working now, then [02:06] http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/blurry-emblem.png [02:06] that emblem is 32x32 [02:06] andreasn: sure, but the original gnome icon theme, has the main part of emblems only in 48x48. I agree with u, but this let me a little bit confused [02:07] yeah, but in gnome-icon-theme, all icons used to have only one size, and that made the whole system look blurry [02:07] or, well, not all, but most of them [02:08] fschoep [02:08] troy_s: troy_s [02:08] I'm not 100% sure if nautilus pick the right size all the time though, I've noticed a bunch of bugs here and there when using pixel perfect sets [02:09] troy_s: speak your mind [02:11] andreasn: nysosym: I'll try to get the basics working first, we can work on retouching smaller versions later on, right? [02:12] right :) [02:13] http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/not-blurred-emblem.png [02:13] ah, it seems nautilus picks a good size [02:13] when you have emblems in the right size [02:13] andreasn: good to hear, I'll make sure to test around with it once we've got everything set [02:14] sure [02:14] troy_s: ping ? [02:14] how you doing fschoep, sorry was checking mail [02:14] troy_s: fine, thanks. I hope you are well as well === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B75D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:17] wrong button... [02:18] hmm damn, i must go to work at 3 o`clock and it`s 2:18PM... [02:18] working on graphics use a lot of time.... [02:23] fschoep: we should use 32x32 scalable [02:24] nysosym: OK [02:24] sry for many work :( === mneptok tootles off for some sleep === mneptok [n=mneptok@mneptok.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] [02:28] fschoep: i have testet that nautilus scales svg's very well in every size [02:28] nysosym: OK, good [02:28] nysosym: should I just place your SVGs in /scalable then? [02:28] the only problem should be the performance, but i can`t reproduce any lags on my machine 2600+ [02:28] yes, here all works very well [02:29] i must go to work now [02:29] OK, I'll go and try that [02:29] thx for all :-* [02:29] bye guys!! [02:29] nysosym: cu later [02:29] nysosym: be good :) [02:29] ever! :D === PingunZ [n=kristof@253.181-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:13] Hey PingunZ [03:13] PingunZ: don't know if Jonathan already told you, but your GDM should be in quite soon I think [03:14] I packaged it on Monday [03:14] fschoep: What gdm .. do I have to make a gdm ? [03:14] Or the one I already made ? :) [03:14] PingunZ: the Blubuntu one [03:14] I already made ? [03:14] PingunZ: it's probably going into Edgy this week [03:14] PingunZ: yes [03:15] Sooo .. do I need to do something ? [03:15] PingunZ: no, you already did your part of the work [03:15] Exept kiss you cause your incuding it :):D [03:15] PingunZ: you're welcome ;) [03:15] Btw.. sorry for being inactive .. but I don't want to fail on school again ;) [03:16] PingunZ: don't worry, there is more than Ubuntu [03:16] I know :) .. Suse, debian, Gentoo .. :D [03:16] PingunZ: right [03:16] Thanks for including it fschoep :) I really like that [03:17] PingunZ: no problem, I hope it gets uploaded soon [03:17] Btw .. Thanks for making me a moderator too :) [03:18] Rofl .. all I do is thanking tou ! :) [03:18] PingunZ: ;) [03:18] How's your appla battery charger going ? [03:19] PingunZ: good, thanks [03:19] PingunZ: got a new one the day after calling Apple [03:20] That's what they call service .. :) [03:20] PingunZ: I also ordered an Apple keyboard and mouse so I now use my Macbook as the main computer on my main display [03:20] I use Linux over X11 ;) [03:20] Lemme guess 20" Lcd ? :) [03:20] PingunZ: that's also the reason why I'm on IRC way more often now :0 [03:20] Wich is great ;) [03:21] Yes, I got used to it I think [03:21] Woah this rocks .. My work will be in the default install of ubuntu ? :O [03:21] Can't wait to tell my parents .. rofl ! : [03:21] *:) [03:22] PingunZ: tell everyone you know. It should be pretty certain it's going to be in there, but the decision is now out of my reach. [03:22] Oh ;) [03:22] PingunZ: I packaged and modified it on Monday and asked Daniel to upload it. He's sitting on it now. [03:22] Daniel -> Who ? [03:23] Daniel Holbach, the funny German guy? [03:23] Never heard of .. :) [03:23] PingunZ: now you have, then [03:23] What's his nick [03:23] *? [03:23] dholbach on IRC and Launchpad probably [03:23] Never heard of .. [03:23] https://launchpad.net/people/dholbach [03:24] O_o He is like admin of 10 teams ? :D [03:24] Daniel does a lot of different things yes [03:25] He's a core-dev so he can work on Ubuntu as a job [03:25] Btw .. Have you seen my compiz theme .. its rated #1 on gnome-look :) [03:25] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45690 [03:26] Nice, looks a bit like Vista I think :) [03:26] You should make the close button a bit bigger ;) [03:26] Yes .. I think vista *looks* nice [03:26] Right, and we've *so* had it with Mac OS X Aqua looks [03:26] Yes .. I just used someone else's buttons :) [03:26] I know ;) [03:27] I'll try to make some .. but its not really my err .. speciality :D [03:27] I use Mac OS X aqua borders on my install... of Mac OS X [03:27] But I'll do my best ;) [03:28] fschoep: When can I propose a themeteam for edgy+1 ? [03:29] PingunZ: probably early next cycle [03:29] PingunZ: I'm not sure who'll be in my position for Edgy +1 [03:29] And .. can themeteams also cover Openoffice, gimp, xara splashes ? [03:29] fschoep: You're the AiC, does it change every cycle ? :| [03:29] PingunZ: we're going to need to take a look at that. We considered that for Edgy, but it's already proven to be difficult to deliver four pieces of artwork for Human. [03:30] Hmm .. :) [03:30] PingunZ: Yes, Mark suggested rotating the AiC for each release. [03:30] Why is that ? [03:30] PingunZ: to have multiple people get experience doing so [03:30] I think you're doing pretty great :) [03:31] thank you [03:31] If we could vote once .. I'll vote for you ^^ [03:31] hehe, that's nice to hear, but let's not get ahead of ourselves [03:31] ;) [03:31] Mark will explain his plan soon I think [03:31] Ok ;) [03:32] he's already started looking forward for Kubuntu, so Ubuntu'll be next I think === Cadet [n=Cadet@user-5443caa7.lns6-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:32] Hi Cadet, back again? [03:34] Hmm, I need to go and get some stuff I ordered for printing, does anyone have urgent matters to discuss right now? [03:36] Right. I'll let my Macbook fall to sleep and disconnect, then. See you guys in an hour or so. === PingunZ [n=kristof@253.181-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ppd [n=max@dslb-088-064-016-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:01] hello everyone === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:08] hey ppd [06:08] hi PingunZ [06:15] troy_s: You there ? I'd like to discuss your GDM :) === dborg [n=daniel@e182052096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Faisal [n=RPC@60.52.236.133] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:47] hi [07:02] troy_s: ping === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [07:07] OK, that was just a really long hour. [07:22] fschoep: will my name still be in the GDM description ? :) [07:22] PingunZ: yes [07:22] Wohoo :) [07:22] Thanks ! [07:22] PingunZ: both your real name and nickname [07:23] When will I know if it'll be included in Edgy ? [07:23] PingunZ: as soon as I know [07:23] Rofl :) [07:23] PingunZ: :) [07:24] No ETA ? :D [07:24] PingunZ: no, sorry [07:24] brb [07:25] ok ;) [07:29] Right, I really don't know yet what will happen, but of course I am trying my best to push for inclusion and to have them on the CD. [07:37] fschoep: Thanks m8 ;) I really like appreceate that ;) [07:37] Or however you write that :) === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@253.181-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ppd [n=max@dslb-088-064-016-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:22] hi [09:23] Hi ppd [09:23] Hi ppd & fschoep :) [09:23] Hi PingunZ [09:24] Hi fschoep & PingunZ === PingunZ is currently taking a look at Xubuntu edgy :) [09:24] With the new beryl compiz [09:24] PingunZ: can I give you a task :) ? [09:25] Yes you can :) [09:25] PingunZ: OK it's an easy one probably [09:25] Ok ;) [09:25] PingunZ: Did you see Eric's mail to the list on the new orange Human emblems? [09:25] Yes [09:25] PingunZ: I need you to find out how to replace emblems in the Human icon set [09:25] PingunZ: sounds doable? [09:26] PingunZ: I'm a bit busy fixing some other bugs so if you can help that'd be awesome [09:26] /usr/share/icons/human/emblems/ [09:26] I don't really get it .. [09:26] ;) [09:26] If you place icons in that folder, they don't seem to get updateed [09:26] updated* [09:26] You just extract the emblems into the icons folder [09:27] Well refresh your theme in theme manager ;) [09:27] Really? I had no luck doing so. [09:27] That's how I would do it ;) [09:27] Show me a screenshot you managed to change 'em then :) [09:27] Ok :) === PingunZ sniffs for the mail [09:27] PingunZ: If you manage to do it, you'll get a cookie :0 [09:27] Yay ! :D === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B75D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:31] gooood evening :) [09:32] fschoep: Cookies ready ? [09:32] PingunZ: yes, apple cake even [09:33] Nice :) [09:33] Get it - "Apple" cake [09:33] ;) [09:33] ^^ [09:33] nysosym: PingunZ is proving me it's easy to add your emblems [09:33] I just did [09:33] I'm uploading the screenie :) [09:33] http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7674/screenshotgg6.png [09:34] Say I'm 1337 :D [09:34] ahhh cool :) [09:34] nice work :) [09:34] Ain't my work :) [09:34] we use the color ones now? :D [09:34] I just extracted them into the emblems dir [09:35] Dunno [09:35] I prefer them :) [09:35] PingunZ: right? [09:35] PingunZ: it's that easy? [09:35] Yes. [09:35] PingunZ: I've been trying like mad to get them working [09:35] fschoep: I'll guide you trough it :) [09:35] *:) [09:35] You on gnome/kde/xfce ? [09:35] GNOME, Vanilla Ubuntu [09:36] vanilla means "clean" [09:36] AltF2 -> gksudo nautilus [09:36] I know ;) [09:36] OK, good :0 [09:36] Can you give me the short story? [09:36] There .. copy the emblems.tar.gz into your /usr/share/icons/tango/scalable/emblems/ [09:37] Like put the SVGs in /usr/share/icons/Human/scalable/emblems [09:37] and right click -> Extract here :) [09:37] in Tango? [09:37] Yup . [09:37] I did it in tango .. I'm a tango-fan [09:37] And then just remove the .tar.gz [09:37] Right. [09:37] Worked here :) [09:38] Can you also get it working for Human :) ? [09:38] I'd rather not put Human emblems in Tango [09:38] Yes .. [09:38] Must be same :) [09:38] Is there a magic rune for updating the list of emblems [09:38] fschoep: Are you trying to use the orange or colored ones ? [09:38] PingunZ: orange [09:38] PingunZ: I like orange(s) and Apple(s) [09:38] Oh .. maybe the tar is corrupt ? [09:38] ;) [09:38] rofl fschoep [09:38] No I do get the SVGs alright [09:39] I'll try to put the oranges into the Human :D [09:39] OK, go ahead and let me know if it works. [09:40] hmm this action doesn`t work here [09:42] brb need to check something === PingunZ [n=kristof@253.181-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:48] fschoep: Something wierd is happening with those orange emblems [09:48] PingunZ: tell me more [09:48] The colored ones work .. the orange ones don't [09:49] PingunZ: right so unpacking the colored ones into emblems works for Human as well, but orange doesn't? [09:49] i have found a good way, gimme some minutes please :) [09:49] nysosym: A good way ? [09:49] yes, to work with the orange ones [09:50] gimme some time :) [09:50] nysosym: I'm looking forward to it [09:50] i will send frank an new tar.gz :D [09:50] nysosym: almost peeled out every hair on my head because I couldn't get them working [09:50] nysosym: j/k ;) [09:50] add pingunz@gmail.com [09:50] I told you .. the tar was corrupt :) [09:50] Do I get a cookie now ? [09:51] fschoep: stop!!! :D [09:51] PingunZ: not yet, if it works afterwards, both you and nysosym'll get one [09:51] PingunZ: not corrubt, but a :D [09:51] a later [09:51] i will final my worm :D [09:52] Can I set my icons back to tango now ? :) [09:52] jojo [09:52] Hmmm .. tango :) [09:52] Sweetest icons ever made ! [09:55] nysosym: You're the one who made the emblems right ? [09:56] yes [09:56] Oh :) [09:57] why? [09:57] Just wondering .. [09:57] because? [09:57] I was interested .. [09:58] In who made the emblems .. [10:01] fschoep: If you have any blubuntu-gdm news or other jobs like that to be done .. just mail me .. I'm kinda tired so .. cya ! :) === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:01] ping fschoep [10:01] PingunZ: cu [10:01] cbx33: right man right time [10:01] PingunZ: will mail you [10:01] hey dude [10:01] Oki fschoep , night all [10:01] just got in [10:02] gonna do some sound work today [10:02] and then if I don;t get it all done tomorrow too [10:02] fschoep, I was thinking [10:02] instead of ... [10:02] cbx33: take your time, it looks like you're out of breath now :) [10:02] dum da dum ba ba da-dum | dum da dum ba ba da-dum | dum da dum ba ba da-dum | dum dum dum dum [10:03] OK, weird as it sounds I understand what you are saying [10:03] dum da dum dum | dum da dum dum | dum da dum dum dum [10:03] mush shorter [10:04] That's an option indeed, I was thinking of trying just "dum da dum ba ba da-dum krsshh" [10:04] wow even shorter [10:05] our problem lies in where thr sound is initiated [10:05] but its too late to chagne now [10:06] what do you mean exactly? [10:06] for the startup [10:06] I'm talkign abotu startup [10:07]