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zmotrappist - actually I'd like to get some FAQ/Howto/whatever RFTM about it12:01
rukuarticCaptain_Redbeard: Look around on the internet for one, download the package from their site and get the .conf from there?12:01
Dr_willisCaptain_Redbeard,  search the repos.. theres a kxdocker data package as well12:01
zmotrappist - that didn't work out12:01
cpk2Dr_willis: who says I've been worrying this whole time haha, I have music playing ya know =P12:01
zmoI have to load the sblive module first12:01
trappistzmo: no, it won't when your card isn't in /proc/asound/cards12:01
Captain_RedbeardDr_willis: isntalled it already... no difference12:01
zmothat's the only way12:01
physicsnickguys? how do i view my syslog?12:01
zmowhen it is in /proc/asound/cards12:01
Dr_williscpk2,  listing to the latest Weird AL cd eh.12:01
pike_AgEnT-0016: once you do it though there is no going back you might if you have freespace just install it to another partition and then copy over your home dir12:01
zmophysicsnick - less /var/log/syslog12:01
rukuarticphysicsnick: dmesg12:01
physicsnickzmo, rukuartic, thanks12:01
avagantguys is /home/skt suppose to have like 1000 files in it?12:02
avagantBecause it's MY name?12:02
rukuarticphysicsnick: Not sure what dmesg actualy does, I'm pretty sure its syslog. any check zmo?12:02
avagantor my usr name or whatever?12:02
cpk2Dr_willis: I heard it was good but, no12:02
AgEnT-0016spike_ is this safe? i mean, is it as stable as drake?12:02
zmothere are so many modules loaded, that I'm damn lost12:02
Dr_willisCaptain_Redbeard,  i installed them both and it worked for me.. another guy had similer issue and installed both and then it worked... kxdocker sort of SUCKS anyway :P to be honest12:02
trappistzmo: also gnome is rumored to have a pretty good interface for all of this, but I don't use gnome so I can't help with that12:02
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cpk2I'll put it on my to get list12:02
zmotrappist - gnome sucks pretty much about it for now12:02
avagantis it possible get rid of gnome and have the kde only?12:02
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zmothere's even a launchpad about that12:02
likewhoa54my xorg.conf file needs to be generated on the fly for each individual workstation that boots up off the network12:02
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GigaClonmy gcc 3.3 is broken I get this, gcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory12:03
zmobut gnome 2.16 has the fix :)12:03
Captain_RedbeardDr_willis: ok? do you have anything else to roccomend? to use as a bar that is?12:03
likewhoa54using nfs boot....need to make an xorg.conf on the fly, can anyone suggest a direction to look in?12:03
Dr_willisavagant,  yes - but its a hassle12:03
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zmoanyway12:03
TheMoebiusi thought compiz/Xgl was supposed to be included in edgy by default. is this not the case?12:03
zmothink I'm gonna rebuild the alsa-base file12:03
Dr_willisCaptain_Redbeard,  i just use the normal kde panel.. i hate the actual OS-X funky dock.12:03
avagantDr_willis: Cause I have both, and I don't know if that's why my gb's went down like...2 gb's.12:03
trappistTheMoebius: no, it's not ready for that yet12:03
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zmobut noone has hints about the modprobe.d thing ?12:03
zmoI don't like to use things I don't understand fully12:03
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Dr_willisavagant,  they both take up some space.. but not a huge amount.12:03
zmoand rebuilding it and not repairing it myself would be a failure to me12:04
knixtechneed help guys, when i do apt-get install electricsheep, i get "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:04
knixtech  Major opcode:  14512:04
knixtech  Minor opcode:  312:04
knixtech  Resource id:  0x012:04
knixtechFailed to open device12:04
knixtechDESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.12:04
knixtechSelecting previously deselected package electricsheep.12:04
knixtech(Reading database ... 84177 files and directories currently installed.)12:04
knixtechUnpacking electricsheep (from .../electricsheep_2.6.4-2ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... "12:04
Captain_RedbeardDr_willis: it's a bit boring.. I'm into styling my desktop as of now... :)12:04
pike_!paste > knixtech12:04
knixtechsorry12:04
trappistzmo: what was the modprobe.d question? (disclaimer: I probably can't help)12:04
Dr_willisCaptain_Redbeard,  uselesw eye candy.. good luck.12:04
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Captain_RedbeardDr_willis: I just got myself a dualcore amd64 and I want to see how much shit I can put on it before it starts complaining about load :)12:04
zmotrappist - well, do you have any documentation that talk about that, especially in ubuntu ?12:04
zmoI'd like to understand what's all those aliases and options for12:05
Millethanks an yway. cya tomorrow everyone. nn12:05
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TheMoebiusif I install the compiz and xgl packages on edgy will it automatically configure it, or will I still have to hack it to get it working like in dapper?12:05
knixtechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:05
zmoand there should be somewhere some kind of mini-howto or something12:05
knixtechplease help12:05
zmobut I didn't find one12:05
zmo!modprobe.d12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
GigaClon!wireless12:05
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:05
trappistzmo: no, afaik there is none.  the kernel devs seem to go to some trouble to ensure that you a) don't have to, and b) can't, mess with the kernel or its modules12:06
CaptainMorganfolks - so I did sudo apt-remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and have finished the downloading, with an error at the end concerning a connection.. looks like 99% was downloaded.. do I just continue? what do I need to do? restart X ? to see Gnome back?12:06
zmotrappist - but they should not12:06
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theacolyteWell, you'll all be pleased to know I got the dual head part working, so you can breath now -- quick question though. I want to switch which is the "primary" screen, is there an easy way to do that?12:06
zmotrappist - they can't rely on other abstractions12:06
avagantDr_willis: Well is /home/skt suppose to have like 9000 files in it?12:06
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avagantDr_willis: Because skt is my user name.12:06
avagantDr_willis: But when I click into /home/skt only 3 files show.12:07
zmoI mean, I used modules.conf for years, and never had any trouble using it12:07
knixtechelectric sheep help  -  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:07
zmonow I'm using Ubuntu and I get troubles12:07
Dr_willisavagant,  ls -al12:07
matt8806suomiwhen i click the logout button, it takes me to the login screen without displaying a screen asking option like: switch user, lock screen, logout, restart, suspend, hibernate, shutdown!! can anyone help??12:07
avagantin /home/skt?12:07
avagantthat would take a long time. haha12:07
kitchezmo: well modules.conf isn't really used anymore it's for older kernels12:07
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zmokitche - yup12:07
zmo!module-init-tools12:08
ubotumodule-init-tools: tools for managing Linux kernel modules. In component main, is important. Version 3.2.2-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 76 kB, installed size 316 kB12:08
trappistzmo: preaching to the choir, there12:08
Dr_willismatt8806suomi,  did you login to X using gdm/kdm/ or the shell?12:08
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theacolyteHow is primary and secondary monitors specified in xorg.conf?12:08
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zmotrappist - uhuh :)12:08
theacolyteare, rather12:08
rukuarticAnyway to get usplash to work with initng?12:08
matt8806suomiit automatically starts the gui when it boots12:08
slarahello12:08
zmoand whatever my problem is12:09
avagantmaybe i'm just reading something wrong.12:09
zmoit's just a matter of understanding what's wrong12:09
avagantthis kde menu is kinda confusing when it comes to searching for my files.12:09
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matt8806suomiDr_willis: it automatically starts the gui when it boots12:09
sladenrukuartic: usplash just depends on a framebuffer and lsb12:09
slaramy girlfriend need to make a talk about ubuntu12:09
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slaraand she needs slides for the presentation12:10
knixtechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:10
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zmowell reinstalling alsa-base12:10
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Dr_willismatt8806suomi,  you are refering to GDM? or are you saying it auto-logins to the user?12:11
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GreenLanternrukaurtic: i have the lsusb number12:11
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matt8806suomiDr_willis:   auto logins in after 3o seconds with a gui12:12
CaptainMorganfolks - so I did sudo apt-remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and have finished the downloading, with an error at the end concerning a connection.. looks like 99% was downloaded.. do I just continue? what do I need to do? restart X ? to see Gnome back?12:12
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GreenLanterni need some help with a wireless card.  It's linksys.12:12
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knixtechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:12
Dr_willismatt8806suomi,  i am guessing the autologin feature is disablign that stuff then12:13
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avagantIs there a way to list all the programs installed when not on the command line?12:13
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kothz!lam12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
kothz!lamp12:13
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.12:13
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GreenLantern!linksys12:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linksys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:14
rukuarticGreenLantern: here12:14
GreenLanternoh good.  What now?12:14
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rukuarticGreenLantern: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?action=show&redirect=SetupNdiswrapperHowto12:14
rukuarticGreenLantern: Thats a complete tutorial on how to get it working12:14
knixtechanyone help with electric sheep issue  -http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:14
matt8806suomiDr_willis: what other causes would there be cause i has been doing it longer than i have had "timed login" setup12:14
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physicsnickquestion, i just set up ddclient to update my ip address. but i can't get the damn thing to output any sort of log messages whatsoever12:14
GreenLanternand i will need the lsusb number?12:14
physicsnickhow do i know if it's working?12:14
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rukuarticGreenLantern: Yep, just follow through the thing completely12:15
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porkpiewhat kernel is dapper running12:15
rukuarticporkpie: uname -r12:15
noumaani think that by changing some keys in us  layout in /etc/x11/xkb/symbols i can assign the shift role to someother key is this possible/12:15
noumaanmy keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key12:15
holycow!wpa12:15
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:15
CaptainMorganam I set on ignore or something?12:16
rukuarticporkpie: I'm 2.6.15-27-38612:16
CaptainMorgan:D12:16
GreenLanternrukuartic: How can I be sure that it's not working already?  Because honestly, I don't know.12:16
holycowCaptainMorgan, do ya wanna be?12:16
knixtechCaptainMorgan, so am i , ;)12:16
CaptainMorganI did sudo apt-get remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, restarted X server and see no changes in the type of sessions available12:16
knixtechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:16
rukuarticGreenLantern: You can try "ifconfig" to see what interfaces you are, and then "iwlist (interface) scan"12:16
holycowme signs up CaptainMorgan and Captain_Redbeard  for battle of the pirates12:16
CaptainMorganholycow !12:17
rukuarticGreenLantern: But if it doesn't work, then you probably won't find stuff.12:17
rukuarticGreenLantern: Sorry, if you don't find stuff, it won't work, and you need to follow the tutorial.12:17
holycowtest12:17
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Captain_RedbeardYarr ;)12:17
holycowheh :)12:17
CaptainMorganhow do I get Gnome without reinstalling??12:17
knixtechplease guys, there 900 people in here, and no responses   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:18
Captain_Redbeardneed to use the bathroom for a bit... but when I'm back you better keep that rapier ready ;)12:18
CaptainMorganim sick of KDE12:18
holycowCaptainMorgan, well just reinstall gnome12:18
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holycow!gnomedesktop12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnomedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
CaptainMorgannice one holycow12:18
CaptainMorganwth12:18
holycowsearch for gnome desktop something or other, you will recognize it when you see it12:18
holycowthat will pull in all the gnome stuff12:18
holycowand then log out, select gnome on the bottom left hand side as your default de and log back in12:19
GreenLanternrukuartic: what should i see with ifconfig andiwlist12:19
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knixtecham i a ghost?12:19
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rukuarticGreenLantern: Ok, type iwconfig. you might see things like "eth0" or "wlan0" or something... try going "iwlist eth0 scan" or "iwlist wlan0 scan"12:19
CaptainMorganholycow:  bottom left?12:20
holycowyou haveto logout first12:20
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holycowoh christ12:21
holycowwe need a wpa supplicant interface12:21
CaptainMorganalready did after the command I listed above12:21
holycow*hmmmm*12:21
jkku3holy spirit12:21
holycowCaptainMorgan, you couldn't of possibly installed gnome already12:21
theacolyteWow, I'm at a loss. How can I set which monitor is the "primary" in xorg.conf?12:21
holycowthat will take well over an hour on adsl12:21
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CaptainMorganholycow: took over an hour to dl12:21
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holycowbut you asked 3 minutes ago?12:22
CaptainMorganright!12:22
tamacrackerHey guys?... How do I ping someone?12:22
CaptainMorganbecause I had already applied that ocmmand!12:22
rukuartictamacracker: ping <host>12:22
holycow*cough* wee bit of lag?12:22
tamacrackerthrough terminal?12:22
CaptainMorganwhich is why I asked if I was being ignored12:22
CaptainMorganremmeber?12:22
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rukuartictamacracker: Yep :) You could also use some gui tool, don't know which one it is though./12:22
holycowCaptainMorgan, can i ignore you too?12:22
holycowj/k!12:22
frojndtopic... who is Lilo ?12:22
Phlostentamacracker: or System->Administration->Network Tools12:22
holycowwhat command was that i don't feel like scrolling12:23
rukuartictamacracker: Phlosten beat me to it12:23
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tamacrackercool let me check it out hold on12:23
frojnd!Lilo12:23
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.12:23
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Phlostenfrojnd: lilo was the founder of freenode12:23
Subhumanfrojnd, no lilo was the "owner" of freenode.... the irc server your using now.12:23
kitchefrojnd: he ran freenode12:24
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CaptainMorganholycow: sudo apt-get remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:24
theacolyteOne of the nicest people you'd ever meet12:24
zmoRIP12:24
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LilRayRay<LilRayRay> hi all, I am trying to install a D-Link WUA-1340 under ubuntu using ndiswrapper.  I extracted the .inf .sys and .bin file from my Windows D-link exe.  This driver doesnt seem to work (It says that the driver is incorrect).  Could someone help?12:24
holycowlol thats not a good idea12:24
frojndwhat is he dead or smth12:24
CaptainMorganerr.. maybe I missed the sudo in the second half?12:24
holycowyou should of installed gnome first, made sure it worked then removed kde12:24
theacolyteYes12:24
holycowhowever12:24
holycowyou didn't actually remove kde12:24
holycowyou removed the metapackage12:24
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tamacrackerOk one more question Phlosten12:25
holycowkde is still there... you will need to remove one of the main kde libs to pull everything out so you are still good12:25
CaptainMorganplease oblige to the right commmand?12:25
tamacrackerHow do I check if I'm being pinged?12:25
holycowlog out, select session i think, and select gnome desktop it should appear in a list there next to kde12:25
CaptainMorgansudo apt-get install gnome? or ubuntu-desktop?12:25
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CaptainMorganholycow:  in that list gnome is NOT listed12:25
Phlostentamacracker: no idea12:25
CaptainMorganonly default, kde, and X stuff12:25
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CaptainMorganI know for a fact there's no Gnome option12:26
holycowweird12:26
CaptainMorgandid I need to have sudo before the second half command?12:26
CaptainMorgancuz I ddn't apply it12:26
tamacrackerthere's no way to check if im gettin pinged?12:26
holycowyes12:26
CaptainMorganalright, Ill try that12:26
tamacrackeror atleast block a ping from a known IP address?12:26
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CaptainMorgansorry, holycow I just checked terminal history, I DID have sudo there, but in typing here in Konversation I forget to type it12:27
avagantwhat's the gk thing for kde?12:27
holycowsounds like gnome is installed.12:27
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CaptainMorganhow do I access it? Im running the command again just to be safe12:28
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holycowCaptain_Redbeard, oh wait ...12:28
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holycoware using kdm instead of gdm?12:28
avagantlike i can go alt f2 and get run command what's the gksudo for kde?12:28
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holycowtry sudo apt-get install gdm12:28
Crippy-BoyLo all12:28
noumaanmy keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key12:29
holycowthat should install the gnome display manager12:29
CaptainMorganfunny.. after tyring for the second time, it asked me if I want to use kdm, or gdm.. so i chose gdm12:29
avaganti have to figure out why i suddenly lost 2gb's.12:29
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dmglouishow do I ping in terminal?12:29
frojndhej guys, where can I find some channels that are mentioned just for chatting..12:29
avagantall those random apps i'm installing. haha12:29
CaptainMorganthe first time it didn't ask12:29
Crippy-BoyHow would i install windows(on a seperate) partition without it fucking up my mbr and/or xubuntu install?  (i need to install windows for college)12:29
kitchefrojnd: #freenode-social #ubuntu-offtopic is two12:30
avaganti wish there was a way to list what apps i had without going through all the apps in the package manager.12:30
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holycowremove kdm altogether, i don't know why it wouldn't show gnome its usually pretty good12:30
RickHhi all12:30
Crippy-Boylo12:31
dmglouiscan someone help me?12:31
Crippy-Boydmglouis, with?12:31
holycowping ip.ad.dr.ess12:31
KirbyI have a problem, im not sure what i did but now the boot loader shows 2 Ubuntu's... both the same12:31
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dmglouishow do i ping in erminal12:31
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dmglouisthanks12:31
Crippy-Boyping -c 3 <host>12:31
stu_Kirby: are you sure they are exactly the same, one digit might be different12:31
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CaptainMorganholycow: it's running a different install than last time... with the option of gdm being applied.. so in 45 minutes I should see Gnome among th list in session12:31
CaptainMorganthanks dude12:32
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Kirbywell, was there an update that made a new one?12:32
CaptainMorganor dudet12:32
stu_Kirby: quite possibly12:32
likewhoa54dudatious!12:32
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dmglouishow do I make it only a particular # of requests12:32
lschey guys where do i find my 3d driver for intel 810 ?12:32
holycowno worries12:32
Kirbyi never installed anything new. i was messing with mounts right before that happened12:32
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RickHany idea why ubuntu live cd would lock up?....edubuntu runs fine12:32
lschey guys where do i find my 3d driver for intel 810 ?12:33
dmglouisnever mind12:33
RickHon live cd12:33
linusHimselfhi al12:33
Kirbyok, IF 1 digit WAS different, how can i move windows XP to the top of the boot loader list12:33
Kirbyand how can i remove the 10 second timer12:33
Crippy-BoyKirby, look in /boot/grub/menu.lst12:33
linusHimselfi massed up my X while trying to install xgl/mopix12:33
Kirbyok =D12:34
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sivikanyone here use gnomad2>=2.8.5?12:34
Crippy-BoyKirby, back it up before changing it though12:34
Kirbyis that where i remove the timer? Crippy-Boy12:34
holycowlinusHimself, thats alpha software, its only meant as an excercise to see if it can be done.  yeah it will hose your system (not really it can be fixed with hard work) but reinstall12:34
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Crippy-BoyKirby theres a 'timeout' line in menu.lst, Alter that to what you want12:35
holycowby reinstall i mean to say its far far easier and faster than mucking around reconstructing the x and desktop stuff12:35
avagantWow maybe I should delete kde. How hard is it to delete kde-desktop without running the programs you have?12:35
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avagantOr will I have to reinstall amarok agian, the only thing media player i like now.12:35
Kirbyok thanks, ill be back.. =D12:35
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Crippy-BoyCan anyone answer my question?12:35
Kirbyif nothing is wrong.12:36
linusHimselfgood idea..12:36
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Kirbyi meant, if i have anymore problems12:36
Crippy-BoyHow would i install windows(on a seperate) partition without it messing up my mbr and/or xubuntu install?  (i need to install windows for college)12:36
Crippy-BoyI dont wanna mess around reinstalling grub and such :(12:36
linusHimselfit shouldnt be a problem12:36
Phlostenwindows will always stuff your mbr12:36
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Rastadude12:36
linusHimselfjust resize ur current primary partition12:36
RickHCrippy-Boy, why would you need windoze?12:36
Rastalinus itself!12:36
holycowCrippy-Boy, you cannot install windows AFTER installing any other os on the hd first12:36
PhlostenCrippy-Boy: why not use vmware?12:36
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holycowmicrosoft seems to think tha tits the only os on th eplanet and it overwrite the bootsector12:37
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sivikafter i run ./configure, i need to run make and make install correct12:37
Crippy-BoyBecause i need it for college12:37
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tamacrackerCan it be possible to trace and block an IP address that's trying to flood your connection?12:37
odyssevstamacracker, absolutely.12:37
holycowthe easiest way is to install windows first on what would be the primary c partition, then install ubuntu after ... gnome will recognize windows and let you select options for install12:37
linusHimselfso the bootloader will b removed, it could b later reinstalled12:37
linusHimselfthe hard way12:37
Crippy-Boyand im on a 1.4ghz powerbook, I dont wanna use a virtual machine.12:37
siviktamacracker, are you using a router of some sort?12:37
RickHCrippy-Boy, what will win do that linux won't?12:37
linusHimselftrue12:37
tamacrackercan you teach me how odysseys12:37
odyssevstamacracker, I have the majority of the Pacific and Asia blocked.12:38
tamacrackernope... no router12:38
odyssevstamacracker, which distro/etc are you on?12:38
tamacrackerUbuntu Drake12:38
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linusHimselfjust wondering, is there a Triliian version 4 linux?12:38
siviktamacracker, thats rather outdated12:38
odyssevsIs iptables on drake?12:38
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Crippy-BoyListen, I came here to ask for advice not to be questioned, I need windows because theres alot of windows only software i need for college which the chances are wont work with wine and its far easier for me to just dual boot.12:38
odyssevstamacracker, before we waste time, apt-get install chkrootkit and then run it.12:39
tamacrackeroh sorry12:39
faceprinti'm getting an X crash whenever i close the lid on my laptop in edgy...anyone else seeing this?12:39
sivikCrippy-Boy, what are these windows only programs?12:39
tamacrackeri have Dapper Drake12:39
tamacrackerok12:39
SinnerGsivik: don't try .. :P12:39
marshallintel helping people switch from windows: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-roadmap.html12:39
sivikSinnerG, don't try what?12:39
holycowactually he's kinda right12:39
SinnerGgo into a discussion :p12:39
holycowlets not question the dudes intentions too much :)12:39
sivikSinnerG, discussion about what?12:39
sivikCrippy-Boy, what programs?12:39
holycowlet's support him12:39
holycow:)12:39
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Crippy-BoyMacromedia studio, Groupwise, and a bunch of other stuff.12:40
LeeJunFanis there a way to locally search non-installed packages for files they contain locally? So I don't have to wait 15 mins for results on packages.ubuntulinux.org?12:40
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SinnerGsivik: we'll see :p12:40
sivikSinnerG, discussion about what?12:40
tamacrackerhey odyssevs: sude apt-get install chkrootkit12:40
tamacrackerbash: sude: command not found12:40
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SinnerGfyi, I'm a windows user with an ubuntu dedi server ;)12:40
RickHCrippy-Boy, just curious...here trying to learn as well...i haven't found any issues with win based stuff as yet....they either run or there is a replacement12:40
PhlostenCrippy-Boy: i personally find vmware-server the best option for those must have windows tasks12:40
odyssevstamacracker, sudo12:40
theacolyteCan anyone look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25605/ and tell me why my External LCD (Screen 0 in server layout) is still not the primary sccreen?12:40
odyssevstamacracker, just cut the crap and use sudo -s12:40
SinnerGI tried ubuntu before, but indead soem stuff I couldnt run and I dont like to dual boot :p12:40
tamacrackerah crap12:40
tamacrackeri typed it wrong lol12:40
SinnerGI'm trying vista atm ;p12:40
odyssevstamacracker, gets you into root mode. you'll be sudoing all day otherwise.12:40
avagantwhoa my computer just suddenly started to lag.12:40
SinnerG(I dont own a legal copy of windows, so the vista beta is as legal I can get :p)12:41
linusHimselfhow is Vista?12:41
tamacrackeryeah :)12:41
statikeffeckQuestion about the "Search for Files" feature: How do I search for ALL files even if I don't have access?12:41
theacolyteVista isn't bad at all12:41
tamacrackerFuck WIndows Vista.12:41
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SinnerGits okay, a bit to much security :p12:41
odyssevsDoes anyone know who owns Microsoft?12:41
theacolyteI use it on my other machine12:41
tamacrackerThe new Linux is alot iller12:41
SinnerGthe shareholders?12:41
Crippy-BoyI use linux all of the time, i havent touched windows in years, Your trying to preach to the converted, But the point is it'd be far simpler and faster for me to just install windows and i dont wanna virtualise on my crappy laptop.12:41
DBOtamacracker, please watch your language12:41
theacolyteAnd it's no more security than Ubuntu asking for the root password to do anything12:41
odyssevsFriend (not one for pulling my leg) remarked it was 87% US government owned. I'd sure like to see something to back that up (or otherwise).12:41
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SinnerGtrue12:41
likewhoa54lol12:42
tamacrackeroops sorry, New linux: Kororaa12:42
sivikodyssevs, what do you mean by owns?12:42
holycowdudes Crippy-Boy is right.  sometimes a means to an end is fine.  give him some breathing room :)12:42
linusHimselfcan we still get vista or are they finished with the beta?12:42
likewhoa54theacolyte: :(12:42
theacolyteI'm pretty sure you can still get it12:42
PhlostenCrippy-Boy: install windows, which will overwrite your mbr, boot with ubuntu live cd, and resurrect your mbr12:42
SinnerGbeta is finished12:42
odyssevssivik, shareholder wise.12:42
theacolyteI got it through my Technet subscription though12:42
holycowafter he gets out of college he will be installing linux at every job he gets :)12:42
SinnerGI got a legal key12:42
linusHimselfwhere?12:42
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SinnerGyou can still 'get' it tho ;)12:42
gnomefreakcan you guys please stay on topic or join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue the MS talk12:42
odyssevstamacracker, let me know when you've run chkrootkit.12:42
SinnerGI'm waiting for RC2 :P12:42
sivikodyssevs, not sure12:42
tamacrackerVista = owned by patriot act :x12:42
SinnerGokay gnome, if someone is there atleast ;p12:42
odyssevsgnomefreak, how about some gnomechat?12:42
linusHimselflol12:43
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Crippy-BoyPhlosten, Thanks for the straight answer, thats what i suspected but i thought there may be a way around it. but thanks.12:43
linusHimselfok ok...12:43
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gnomefreakodyssevs: if it has to do with support feel free to ask12:43
sivikCrippy-Boy, are some of those must use programs office stuff?12:43
fgh_locan someone point me to a howto or guide for squid?12:43
sivik!squid12:43
tamacrackerodyssevs, how do I run the chkrootkit?12:43
Crippy-BoyI wish i could always dictate to what software/os i run but im not going to get far in a career and/or education with that attitude.12:43
ubotusquid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.12-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2108 kB12:43
linusHimselfI have to say that until i say gnome i never thought about moving to Linux,12:43
odyssevsgnomefreak, it looks uncannily like windows =P12:43
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theacolytegnomefreak: can you look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25605/ and tell me why my External LCD (Screen 0 in server layout) is still not the primary sccreen?12:43
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linusHimselfGUI is importent 2 me12:43
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odyssevstamacracker, type the name and hit enter (after installing it).12:43
sivikfgh_lo, try either wiki.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org12:43
RickHCrippy-Boy, sorry if i sounded "preachy"...didn't mean to ruffle feathers....just trying to learn if something specific didn't work12:43
holycowCrippy-Boy, not quite true, but partially12:43
gnomefreakodyssevs: that is far from support related12:44
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Crippy-Boysivik: some of them yes, Along with macromedia, Groupwise, .Net 2.0 runtimes with VC# and other stuff12:44
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avagantSo my computer started lagging pretty big time, and lost 2 gb almost overnight.12:44
odyssevsgnomefreak, well, Linux needs a psycho-spiritual support centre. For humans, of course.12:44
sivikCrippy-Boy, ok, .net 2.0 can be run with mono, some of macromedia stuff can be ran with crossover office12:44
gnomefreaktheacolyte: in the first part there is a # infront of external screen  thats just as far as i got12:44
odyssevstamacracker, if you get the all clear, we'll see about iptables to block off some ips.12:44
Crippy-BoyRickH, Its cool.12:44
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avagantI don't know exactly what happened to make this thing start running so slow.12:44
theacolytegnomefreak: I commented out that line so I could back out if I needed to12:45
avagantbut it's lagging when i open more than one app and it didn't last night.12:45
Crippy-Boysivik now your talking shite, Half of .net 1.1 is still missing in mono let alone 212:45
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lscHOW TO ENABLE THE INTEL 810 3d DRIVER?12:45
gnomefreakthe # is just that a comment it wont read it12:45
theacolyteRight, but after that I define the screens12:45
tamacrackerodyssevs there were no errors of any sort12:45
sivikCrippy-Boy, whatever you say, i haven't had much problems with it12:45
BlueEagleavagant: Which timezone are you in?12:45
gnomefreaklsc: please dont use the caps12:45
gnomefreak!intel12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
gnomefreakgrrrrr12:45
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avagantuhh pacific?12:45
lgcHelp! My networking is 'kaputt' after an obliged Windoze session!12:46
odyssevstamacracker, so you did not see "possible rootkit" or "infected" ?12:46
siviklgc: what is the problem?12:46
chemajaWhat's with DLink ADSL routers and Ubuntu? Works in XP, but in Ubuntu it doesn't route TCP to inet (ICMP/UDP is fine)... and also, some hostnames resolve to 1.0.0.0.... what gives?12:46
BlueEagleavagant: oh.. and what time is it there? Did you turn on your computer just recently perhaps?12:46
avagantbut loading up files and what not takes a real long time.12:46
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sureshotdoes anyone know how compatible wine is to cedega from transgamming.com12:46
chemajaI'm with iPrimus (Australia)12:46
avagantno it's been on all night.12:46
lgcI can't connect to the outside, sivik12:46
tamacrackerlet me check, under what category odyssevs12:46
BlueEagleavagant: Well then that is odd. Anyways try: ps axu|grep updatedb12:46
Kirby904I am trying to edit menu.1st, and i cant save it12:46
holycowchemaja, no problems with them here ... did you check google?12:46
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siviklgc: that maybe an issue with the isp12:46
avagantWhat's that suppose to do?12:47
odyssevstamacracker, apt-get install chkrootkit, then run chkrootkit.12:47
sivikKirby904, make sure you sudo gedit/vi menu.list12:47
lgcsivik: I'f afraid not. I'm using Windoze now.12:47
Kirby904oh ok thanks12:47
Crippy-Boysivik, Don't get me wrong, im not saying its bad or naff software or anything, nor am i saying that about crossover or anything else you mentioned, I just dont see the point in me spending hours trying to get everything running when the tutors would complain anyway, It seems a big waste of time and effort to me since the only thing ill be using it for is collage12:47
Kirby904its menu.1st or menu.list?12:47
chemajaholycow: didn't get a chance (no inet) :D -- i'm at work today so i can (not that i will, he went back to win2k -- i just had to rant)12:47
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sivikCrippy-Boy, then don't use linux12:47
tamacrackerodyssevs lol i already did that12:47
avagantBlueEagle: What's that suppose to do anyways?12:48
holycowchemaja, ah all cool.  i have a bunch they seem to work12:48
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: No, god forbid that you might actually learn alternative ways of doing things12:48
tamacrackerodyssevs then it did a bunch of checks and it seems like everythings ok12:48
holycowno idea, probably the isp comment might be the right clue12:48
Crippy-Boysivik, I use it only for home use, But i NEED to use windows for college, hence the dual boot12:48
Kirby904New problem, when i open with sudo gedit, nothing shows in the text editor12:48
chemajaholycow: okidoke. i guess i just got unlucky. i think it was a 501 model or something12:48
holycowsorry it didn't work out, i hate it when they gotta go back to ms12:48
BlueEagleavagant: ps aux lists all running processes, grep scans that list for a pattern, in this case the process updatedb12:48
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odyssevstamacracker, smashing stuff. Now, you directly connected?12:48
siviklgc: that really shouldn't be an issue with the os, the ip, subnet, and default gateway should all be assigned from the isp12:48
gnomefreaklgc: download xserver-xorg-video-i810 from ubuntu.packages.com and save it to usb stick than install it on ubuntu (you might want to get xorg and xserver-xorg-driver-all while you at it)12:48
tamacrackerodyssevs im on cable internet12:49
gnomefreakoops12:49
avagantit didn't do anything12:49
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, I already know those alternatives and they're not acceptible for my use.12:49
BlueEagleavagant: if it is running that is because slocate and friends are updating their index. This is a processor- and disk intensive operation.12:49
gnomefreakpackages.ubuntu.com lgc12:49
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: ...and why are you still here again?12:49
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odyssevstamacracker, sure, so no router/gateway/server between you and your connection, right? Does `iptables -L` show anything?12:49
gnomefreakxserver-xorg-driver*-i81012:49
lgcgnomefreak: what is that for?12:49
gnomefreaklgc: your intel card. werent you the person that needed the intel drivers12:50
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lscgome freek12:50
Kirby904when im moving "Windows XP" to the top of the boot list, do i just move this line to the top of my Ubuntu entries?12:50
Kirby904# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian12:50
Kirby904# ones.12:50
Kirby904titleOther operating systems:12:50
Kirby904root12:50
Kirby904# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS12:50
Kirby904# on /dev/hda112:50
lsci just installed kubnu12:50
tamacrackerodyssevs I get a policies accepted12:50
Kirby904titleMicrosoft Windows XP Home Edition12:50
Kirby904root(hd0,0)12:50
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BlueEagleubotu: tell kirby904 abotu paste12:50
Kirby904savedefault12:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell kirby904 abotu paste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:50
Kirby904makeactive12:50
gnomefreakKirby904: you can stop pasteing now12:50
Kirby904chainloader+112:50
SinnerGpff :p12:50
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, So what, because i need to use linux for collage i shouldnt be here? Well pat yourself on the back, You've just destroyed my idea of that the ubuntu community wasnt made up of eletists, If i wanted this kind of response i would use gentoo12:50
Kirby904Sorry.12:51
lsci only have the vga server driver12:51
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lgcgnomefreak: not that I know of...my networking just doesn't function anymore (and I didn't mess with it!)12:51
Crippy-BoyNeed to use windows for college*12:51
gnomefreakKirby904: use pastebin please12:51
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: No, don't get me wrong.12:51
odyssevstamacracker, magical stuff.12:51
Kirby904Yes, ok12:51
odyssevstamacracker, standby, we'll whip you a basic firewall up.12:51
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: I just do not understand why you are here if you are not at all enclined to make linux fit your needs.12:51
tamacrackerodyssevs sweet12:51
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gnomefreakah lsc install xserver-xorg-driver-all12:51
gnomefreaklgc: sorry it was lsc that needed it12:52
holycowguys, can you please lay off Crippy-Boy12:52
holycowjesus f christ12:52
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: And frankly, with your approach to support channel I guess you'll meet that attitude anywhere you go.12:52
holycowwe need visible ops here banning people12:52
holycowBlueEagle, shut the f up12:52
lscdo i doa sudo apt-get install12:52
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gnomefreakholycow: with language like that i will12:52
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, Its not about *MY* needs, if it was and i could dictate to what i use then i would. But unfortunatly i have to answer to tutors, who in the end decide upon my grade12:52
lscdo i doa sudo apt-get install  xserver-xorg-driver-all12:52
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holycowgnomefreak, ah yes ban for a letter sweet12:52
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gnomefreaklsc: yes12:52
Kirby904When opening menu.1st with sudo gedit, nothing shows in the text editor.12:52
lgcgnomefreak: but maybe you can help me anyway!12:52
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gnomefreakKirby904: menu.lst not a 112:53
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: Please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic so we can continue this discussion.12:53
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, With this attitude? I asked a simple question about an mbr and 5 people jumped on me with the 'wtf do you wanna run windoze for, do this, do that' no matter how much i explained that i had no choice.12:53
Kirby904oh =/12:53
gnomefreaklgc: wireless?12:53
holycowat least i got your attention, guys lets be a wee bit more supportive.  there are thousands of reasons to use linux in thousands of configurations, its all good12:53
gnomefreakCrippy-Boy: what is your question12:53
avagantmy computer is running really slow, and i have no idea why.12:53
holycowCrippy-Boy, pls drop it, i don't think they meant to really attack you, its all good12:53
lgcgnomefreak: that's another problem, but let's concentrate on eth012:53
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: I am sorry, but I did not catch your first question. All I caught was your big rant.12:53
Kirby904when moving windows xp to the top of the list, i can just cut and paste on top of ubuntu right?12:53
sivikCrippy-Boy, i didn't say that, i just said you can run a bunch of that stuff with either wine or crossover12:53
Crippy-Boygnomefreak, no worries, its sorted12:54
lscafter that then what ?12:54
holycow:)12:54
cafuegoKirby904: yep12:54
Crippy-Boyholycow, Will do.12:54
gnomefreakCrippy-Boy: ok12:54
fourathow to monitor an application to see wich file it's reading/writing, something like file monitoring12:54
cafuegoKirby904: To *before* the automagic kernels list stuff,12:54
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, Its ok, My rant was in response to people not listening to my reasons.12:54
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Crippy-Boysivik, no worries, crossed wires then, but it didnt help that you wasnt the only on :-)12:54
Crippy-BoyDiscussion over :-)12:54
siviko12:55
sivikok12:55
lscgnomefreek then what after i install then files12:55
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Kirby904behind the ### Begin Automagic Kernels List line?12:55
gnomefreaklsc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and goo through it till you get to the drivers part and choose intel12:55
lgcgnomefreak: any ideas?12:55
odyssevstamacracker, now, you're receiving this as a prototype. It will need modifying, but the general theme of iptables is fairly easy to follow. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25608/12:55
cafuegoKirby904: Just above it12:55
zmowell sound is working again12:56
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gnomefreaklgc: can you ping anything?12:56
zmodid it the lame way :/12:56
cafuegoKirby904: Otheriwse it'll get deleted when the kernel is updated.12:56
lscok12:56
zmogn all12:56
lgcgnomefreak: no. 100% loss.12:56
gnomefreaklgc: what card is it?12:56
sureshotdoes anyone know how compatible wine is to cedega from transgamming.com12:56
Kirby904Oh ok thanks.12:56
lgcgnomefreak: how do I find out?12:56
rickyhey some body know you install java to links12:56
ricky?12:56
gnomefreaklgc: lspci  should list the nic card12:56
tamacrackerodyssevs do you need me to copy and paste that onto the terminal?12:56
gnomefreakricky: to links?12:57
rickyya12:57
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gnomefreakricky: you mean links the browser12:57
RickHCrippy-Boy, what linux distro you run?12:57
rickyyeah12:57
cafuegoricky: It wouldn't surprise me at all if that wasn't possible.12:57
ellioTbwhats up guys, whats a good app for managing wireless LAN besides the one in the ubuntu Add/Remove12:57
ellioTbcause that one hates me12:57
gnomefreakricky: im thinking you cant since its not a gui browser12:57
odyssevstamacracker, the idea is that $IPTABLES -A INPUT -s 123.456.789.0/24 -j REJECT, will reject the ip range 123.456.789.* (ie, all 256 class C ips).12:57
Chm0dcan anyone in here tell me why i get command not found when i use deb?12:57
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gnomefreakChm0d: what is the command12:58
lgcgnomefreak: since I'm in Windoze now, I would like to know what else to try when I reboot to Breezy...12:58
tamacrackerwhoa...12:58
rickyso can i installer in lynx12:58
redguyChm0d: perhaps because there is no such command as "deb"12:58
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odyssevstamacracker, good god no. It probably will work if you put it into an rc.firewall file, chmod o+x it and execute. But I wouldn't, since you don't need a nat. Read the iptables manual.. it's full of handy tricks.12:58
gnomefreakricky: java is not compatible with text browsers12:58
Chm0di just did a fresh install of ubuntu did my updates installed kde and tried installing xgl/compiz12:58
rickyok12:58
Chm0dhmm12:58
cafuegoricky: No, only browser that use the X toolkit *and* are netscape plugin compatble12:58
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ellioTbchm0d, i think if it gives you deb on a how-to12:58
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ellioTbchm0d, that you are supposed to add it to your sources.list12:59
ellioTbnot use it in the terminal12:59
gnomefreaklgc: find drivers for the nick card when you find out what card it is go to the following link12:59
tamacrackerodyssevs just a quick question is there a "program" GUI interface that can do all this without scripting? :D12:59
lgcgnomefreak: I suppose I can figure that out on Windoze too, am I right?12:59
gnomefreak!hardware12:59
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:59
rickyok12:59
odyssevstamacracker, you want basically to have a list of nefarious IPs generated based on certain traffic from them (easy in the case of flooding).12:59
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avagant!Help12:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage12:59
rickywhere can i get that?12:59
odyssevstamacracker, absolutely.12:59
gnomefreaklgc: yes should be in device or whatever its called12:59
avagantWOuld it be ok to delete python 2.3 without harming python 2.4?12:59
lgcgnomefreak: was that for me?12:59
cafuegoricky: firefox should work ok.12:59
ellioTbChm0d, do this in console "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"12:59
ellioTband add that deb line there12:59
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rickyyeah12:59
gnomefreaklgc: the hardware was12:59
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odyssevstamacracker, but I mean you'll miss the fun stuff, like -j MIRROR (swaps the source/dest ips of packets).12:59
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Chm0dthank you01:00
lgcgnomefreak: the hardware is OK, this is the proof.01:00
dmglouis_my internet doesn't work, can someone help?01:00
odyssevstamacracker, apt-cache search iptables01:00
tamacrackerodyssevs ah I would like to get a userfriendly program....  I dont understand "swaps the source/destination IPs of packets"01:00
ellioTbChm0d, no prob01:00
Phlostendmglouis_: the internet is evil, run now01:00
gnomefreaklgc: but the hardware link above will show you what nic cards are supported and how they work (if you need drivers and so on)01:00
cafuegodmglouis_: it's not yours, it belongs to all of us. And it's working fine ;-)01:00
avaganti just did apt-get clean is that gonna kill me?01:01
ellioTbanyone got a good WLAN manager though, besides having to go to networking and do it all manually through that01:01
odyssevstamacracker: uruk - Very small firewall script, for configuring iptables01:01
gnomefreakavagant: no01:01
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dmglouis_can someone help connect to the internet01:01
redguy!firewall01:01
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)01:01
tamacrackeri see01:01
CosmoDaddmglouis_: can you ping any internet host?01:01
dmglouis_nope01:01
Phlostencafuego: there might be some g'ment officials who would say otherwise ;)01:01
redguyhuh? what happened to shorewall?01:01
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odyssevstamacracker: knetfilter - GUI for configuring the 2.4 kernel IP Tables [KDE I think.] 01:01
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: not even an IP address (!= name)?01:01
dmglouis_nope01:01
cafuegoPhlosten: Al Gore can bite me01:01
CaptainMorganthank you holycow !! oh my how I miss Gnome01:01
odyssevstamacracker, here we go, try this one, gnome-lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (GNOME interface)01:02
tamacrackeris there a Gnome version?01:02
we2by!xfce01:02
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:02
tamacrackersweet01:02
CosmoDaddmglouis_: what kind of physical connection do you have (DSL, analogue, ISDN, cable, ...)01:02
rickyhow can i install shockwave in firefox01:02
dmglouis_CosmoDad: cable01:02
holycowCaptainMorgan, you are most welcome.  i have nothing against kde, i just like my gnome too01:02
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dmglouis_cosmodad: but i connect thru router01:02
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cafuego!RestrictedFormats > ricky01:02
CaptainMorgansame here mang01:02
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lgcgnomefreak: I am not trying your patience here, but I didn't install anything and everything was working fine before I needed to reboot in Windoze (and I think Windoze is not the bad guy either). Do you see any point in reviewing hardware or driver issues?01:02
CosmoDaddmglouis_: is your router connected?01:02
sivikricky: you have to have the multiverse repo on and then sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla01:02
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea its fine, im on it right now01:02
cafuegoricky: that page contains links to info on java/flash and video in firefox.01:03
ibob63my internet has become really slow on my ubuntu installation. how should I diagnose the problem?01:03
gnomefreaklgc: see you didnt tell me any of this so i dont know it :)01:03
CosmoDaddmglouis_: did you specify your LAN router as the default router on your Ubuntu box?01:03
lgcgnomefreak: now you know.01:03
dmglouis_cosmodad: huh?01:03
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gnomefreaklgc: did you do updates before you rebooted to windows01:03
avagantgnomefreak: so it won't hurt me in any way?01:03
lgcgnomefreak: no.01:03
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you have to tell Ubuntu to use your router by default when there's data destined for the Internet01:03
gnomefreakavagant: no01:03
dmglouis_cosmodad: the ehternet connection is the default yes01:03
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rickyi have java and flash player installer but i need to instar shockwave01:03
fourathow to monitor an application to see wich file it's reading/writing, something like file monitoring01:03
gnomefreaklgc: and you net works in windows not in ubuntu?01:03
cafuegoricky: There is no shockwave for Linux.01:04
sivikricky, shockwave is flash01:04
lgcgnomefreak: yes.01:04
gnomefreakricky: you cant01:04
cafuegosivik: It's not.01:04
Admiral_Chicagofourat, /lock?01:04
rickyok01:04
gnomefreakricky: flash/shockwave01:04
sivikcafuego, well, it does the same thing more of less, didn't mean for it come out like that01:04
rickyok01:04
gnomefreakcafuego: installing flash gives you shockwave01:04
rickythanx01:04
fouratAdmiral_Chicago, /lock ?01:04
ellioTbcan i switch to xubuntu really easy?01:04
cafuegognomefreak: No, it really doesn't.01:04
sivikellioTb, yes01:04
gnomefreaki have shockwave support in FF01:04
ellioTband what if i want to switch back to gnome01:04
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: can you ping your router?01:04
ellioTbcause this comp is an older laptop, and seems to be running slow01:04
raphaHi all!01:04
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dmglouis_cosmodad: nope01:05
sivikellioTb, you just tell your xdm/kdm/gdm to use that as the current session01:05
avagantgnomefreak: So my computer is lagging alot, is there something wrong here? haha01:05
tamacrackerodyssev sweet!01:05
ellioTbits a 2.2ghz w/only 256mb of ram01:05
gnomefreakapplication/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes01:05
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok, you sure that your router does accept pings?01:05
tamacrackerthis is what i was speakin of!01:05
cafuegognomefreak: Shockwave Flash != Shockwave01:05
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea01:05
ellioTbsivik, is that easy to switch?01:05
gnomefreakoh01:05
cafuegognomefreak: No, they are different things.01:05
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dmglouis_coosmodad: i just reinstalled ubuntu and last time it worked fine01:05
sivikellioTb, yes, very much so, you know when you login01:05
sivikellioTb, you can tell it what session type to use01:05
cafuegognomefreak: flash sucks, whereas shockwave is mainly cool ;-)01:05
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gnomefreakah ok thought it was same just for non macs01:06
CosmoDaddmglouis_: have you set up a static IP address for your Ubuntu box or do you use dhcp?01:06
ellioTbsivik, thanks, i am going to have to check it out, see if it runs this faster01:06
maxamillionis it possible to make X forward over ssh in ubuntu?01:06
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Chm0dwhat is gset-compiz guys?  i can't find that package01:06
cafuegomaxamillion: of course01:06
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gnomefreakmaxamillion: yes use the -x option i think01:06
CosmoDadmaxamillion: sure01:06
ellioTbsivik, so you can do the same thing with KDE huh01:06
maxamillioncafuego: i can't seem to get it to work01:06
cpk2does smp preempt mean smp is off?01:06
dmglouis_cosmodad: if I say dhcp, it doesn't select it as default, whereas the static ip is not working01:06
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maxamilliongnomefreak: that works on my debian box, but not my ubuntu machine01:06
gnomefreakor thats to not use X its been so long since i used ssh01:06
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: what do you mean by it doesn't select it by default?01:06
sivikellioTb, yes01:06
cafuegomaxamillion: Did you check the X11Forward option in sshd_config?01:07
maxamillioncafuego: sure did01:07
gnomefreakmaxamillion: when your there just run gnome or kde or whatever from termminal it should load it01:07
birdfishWhen installing ubuntu, does it ask for network configuration information before or after installing the system (note this is while installing without the gui)01:07
dmglouis_cosmodad: when I go to "Networking", there's no default seleced01:07
ellioTbsivi, thanks, that is awsome, i hope it will run xfce faster than this gnome01:07
CosmoDaddmglouis_: have you tried Ubuntu's network manager to set and check your configuration?01:07
dmglouis_cosmodad: *selected01:07
lgcgnomefreak: any idea?01:07
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea thats it01:07
CosmoDaddmglouis_: pastebin "ifconfig eth0"01:08
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gnomefreaklgc: not off hand.01:08
cafuegomaxamillion: I have on occasion has some VERY weird X forward issues (but only on Debian sofar) where it wouls refuse to work (at all) until I purged ssh and reinstalled it.01:08
Chm0danyone?01:08
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knut_hello..01:08
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Chm0dhello01:08
lgcgnomefreak: what oracle should I resort to now?01:08
dmglouis_cosmodad: i dont know how i'll paste it here01:08
ellioTbsivik, will it run the same gnome apps? or do i have toge t xcfe apps01:08
knut_i installed the nvidia drivers yet, and know my fonts are everywhere smaller than before01:08
dmglouis_cosmodad: im on a different computer01:08
knut_its very hard to read01:08
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knut_how can i change it?01:09
avagantMy computer is running like it's in the dark ages.01:09
blindI *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.01:09
knut_its not only when im logged in, its in login screen too.. everywhere where x puts text out01:09
lgcgnomefreak: is there anything like network utility reconfiguration commands?01:09
Chm0dknut have you changed resolution?01:09
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gnomefreaklgc: ifconfig01:09
knut_no Chm0d its the same01:09
infinitodoen anyone know why having libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed i can't read a dvd using totem-xine??01:09
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: is this machine you're using right now in the same LAN as the ubuntu box?01:09
gnomefreaklgc: gnome-network-manager01:09
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea01:09
CosmoDaddmglouis_: can you ping the ubuntu box?01:10
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knut_someone said me i should change the DPI but dont know what he mean Chm0d01:10
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pianoboy3333sivik: you there?01:10
dmglouis_cosmodad: the request timed out01:10
Knifahi, i've just managed to get ubuntu installed on my core 2 duo system (to an IDE drive from an IDE cd-rom) using the latest beta, the install went perfectly and there was no errors while it was installing, but now when I boot it won't detect the drive again, or atleast it won't mount it, so I can't get in :(01:10
Knifaanyone know what i can do to fix it?01:10
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gnomefreakbbiab01:10
MagicFabKnifa, is the hD IDE ?01:11
lgcgnomefreak: gnomefreak gnome-network-manager reinstalls anything? Or it just asks you for options like DNS vs fixed IP and so on?01:11
Knifayeah the hard drive is IDE01:11
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok then, seems like you don't have a (proper) IP address assigned to your Ubuntu box...01:11
blindKnifa: can you mount the drive manually?01:11
Knifano idea01:11
CorpseFeederI lost my connection and had to reboot01:11
Knifai can't get in to try :S01:11
Knifaand i dunno any other way.01:11
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ellioTbwill the GDM login let you select between gnome and xfce01:11
Chm0ddpi dots per inch?  I would think he meant the resolution01:11
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PhlostenellioTb: yes01:11
CorpseFeederwhat does it mean when you have a blank black screen with blinking cursor in top left and the caps lock and scroll lock on the keyboard is blinking?01:11
CosmoDaddmglouis_: try this on your linux box: "sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0"01:11
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: then try to ping your router again01:12
MagicFabKnifa, can you access the BIOS ? Can you check the specs to know if you're booting from IDE or SATA ?01:12
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KnifaMagicFab it's booting from IDE01:12
ellioTbPhlosten, thanks, also will it run gnome apps? or do i have to get new ones for when i am in xfce01:12
blindCorpseFeeder: means switch your mouse and keyboard. afaik.01:12
MagicFabKnifa, what's the exact error ?01:12
knut_no Chm0d he means dpi01:12
PhlostenellioTb: it will still run most gnome apps01:12
blindCorpseFeeder: like, they're plugged in the wrong PS/2 ports.01:12
KnifaMagicFab it boots to GRUB, starts loading a bit, then dies at "Being: loading root file system" (or something like that)01:12
MagicFabKnifa, when botting from the CD and choosing "boot from first HD", can you boot ?01:12
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and give your user's password if prompted01:12
PhlostenellioTb: most apps will run in kde/gnome/xfce etc01:12
knut_he said i should change the dpi in the ".Xressources" file01:12
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ellioTbPhlosten, thanks, i am a total noob at this stuff right now01:13
KnifaMagicFab i havn't tried that, but i don't think it'll work since it isn't detected my drive.01:13
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea its still busy01:13
MagicFabKnifa, get the exact text of the error, Google will most likely help01:13
Knifa*detecting01:13
CorpseFeederthey're not in the wrong ports.01:13
MagicFaband we can lookinto kaunchpad01:13
avagantIs it possible to delete the kubuntu desktop without screwing anything up?01:13
dmglouis_cosmodad:its done now01:13
lgcgnomefreak: gnome-network-manager reinstalls anything? Or it just asks you for options like DNS vs fixed IP and so on?01:13
CosmoDaddmglouis_: did you get an IP address?01:13
MagicFabKnifa, if the drive wasn't detected, you wouldn't even get to grub01:13
ellioTbPhlosten, i did the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, once thats done will i be able to pick when i login, after a reboot or ctrl+alt+bckspc01:13
avagantmy computer is running like i have 1gb left.01:13
CosmoDaddmglouis_: like the last line looking like you were assigned such an IP address?01:13
dmglouis_cosmodad: you mean in terminal?01:13
CosmoDaddmglouis_: yeah01:14
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dmglouis_cosmodad: no01:14
KnifaMagicFab it's something to do with the IDE controller on core 2 duo motherboards01:14
avaganti think kde killed my hd leftover.01:14
CorpseFeederit seems to do it when i use hibernate... I get the blinking keyboard LEDs and blank screen and have to press reset button.01:14
CosmoDaddmglouis_: if pinging still doesn't work, what does the last line of the terminal output say?01:14
avagantcause now my computer is running like it's in the stone ages.01:14
knut_any idea Chm0d ?01:14
lgcgnomefreak: yoo-hoo!01:14
PhlostenellioTb: that is correct, you click session or something like that and pick xfce and then you can tell it just for that session or all the time etc01:14
Knifathe latest daily build was supposed to fix it01:14
Knifathe installer works01:14
dmglouis_cosmodad: it just went back to the normal prompt with [user] @computer:01:14
Knifabut it won't boot.01:14
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ellioTbPhlosten, awsome, thanks man01:15
MagicFabKnifa, at the risk of repeating... you wouldn't see anything near to GRUB if IDE wasn't detecting01:15
MagicFabprobable the partition' s order / dev names have changed01:15
Knifahttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/5750201:15
Knifait's here01:15
Knifait's this problem.01:15
sureshot !wine01:15
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:15
blindI *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.01:15
avagant!xubuntu01:15
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:15
CosmoDaddmglouis_: I really need some configuration information of yours... please open /etc/network/interfaces and look up a "eth0" section01:15
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avagant!kde01:15
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE01:15
CosmoDaddmglouis_: it should start with "iface eth0"01:16
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you don't have multiple network cards in your Ubuntu machine, do you?01:16
avagantMaybe those 150 some packages that came with kde killed my computer.01:16
dmglouis_cosmodad: yes01:16
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you do have?01:16
dmglouis_cosmodad: i have a wireless usb01:16
dmglouis_cosmodad:but I disabled that01:16
MagicFabKnifa, that bug refers to SATA, not to IDE01:16
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you should pull the cable while testing01:16
KnifaMagicFab: the IDE runs off the same controller01:17
avagantit's taking 3 years for me to load up any programs.01:17
CosmoDaddmglouis_: I mean the "USB-cable"01:17
dmglouis_cosmodad:let me try that01:17
Knifait's something to do with the Jmicron PATA controller that is on the motherboard I have, other people are having the same problem, but apperntly the latest daily build is supposed to fix it. The installer works (unlike the stable releases) but when it actually tries to boot and mount the drive, it doesn't work. so i'm wondering if there's anything special i need to do to get it to work01:17
avagantcan you ping on kde.01:17
ellioTbwith IDE, there was a bug going around, for me to even install ubuntu i had to do "ide=nodma" in GRUB boot options01:17
ellioTbsome people had to do ide=reverse or something like that as well01:17
avagantor rather ubuntu can you ping the entire program?01:17
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and tell me what the line beginning with "iface eth0" in that interfaces-file exactly looks like01:18
Crippy-Boy:-/01:18
MagicFabKnifa, I'd check elliotb' s suggestions, out of ideas here01:18
Knifakay01:18
blindavagant: ping a program?01:18
avagantlike in windows when you go to run and type ping.01:18
dmglouis_cosmodad: iface eth0 inet static01:18
avagantcan you do that with ubuntu?01:19
Admiral_Chicagoavagant, command line, terminal01:19
ellioTbKnifa, try pressing F6 when you get to grub, and add the option ide=nodma and press enter01:19
ellioTbi'll brb01:19
blindavagant: just open a terminal, and type ping.01:19
dmglouis_cosmodad: address 192.168.2.13201:19
avagantDidn't work01:19
Admiral_Chicagoavagant, the command is still ping01:19
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dmglouis_cosmodad:netmask 255.255.255.001:19
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok, what's the address of the box you're on right now?01:19
Knifakay01:19
blindavagant: define didn't work.01:19
dmglouis_cosmodad:192.168.2.13201:19
avaganti typed in ping and it's giving me a list of commands to go with ping01:19
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thenakedcowboyi need some help with installing packages01:19
avaganti just need to find out why my computer is suddenly running so sluggish01:20
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you can't have two machines within the same LAN with the very same IP address01:20
blindavagant: what are you trying to ping?01:20
Admiral_Chicagoavagant, try this "ping 10.122.12.12"01:20
Admiral_Chicagono quotes01:20
thenakedcowboyi am a compleat linux n00b01:20
dmglouis_cosmodad:i dont01:20
dmglouis_cosmodad: wait sorry uh let me check01:20
Crippy-Boythenakedcowboy, What are you trying to install, Or just in general?01:20
Admiral_Chicagothenakedcowboy, what package?01:20
txoofwhat is the meta package for the ubuntu desktop environemnt?01:20
dmglouis_cosmodad:192.168.2.15301:20
MagicFabtxoof, ubuntu-desktop01:20
Admiral_Chicagotxoof, ubuntu-desktop iirc01:20
Crippy-Boyubuntu-desktop?01:20
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avagantmy computer just pretty much died on me.01:20
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avaganti could run more than one program without lag, and all the sudden there's a ton of lag.01:21
speudhello01:21
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok... type, in a shell: ifconfig eth0|head -n 2|tail -n 101:21
speudsome french here ?01:21
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avagantit takes about 2 minutes to just open up something.01:21
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blindavagant, that has nothing to do with ping.01:21
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Admiral_Chicagoavagant, you may have a memory leak01:21
avagantOh I know, but in windows it would irmpove it a bit.01:21
CosmoDaddmglouis_: does it display the IP address 192.168.2.132?01:21
Admiral_Chicago!fr > speud01:22
blindavagant: no it wouldn't O_o01:22
dmglouis_cosmodad: do i type in the |01:22
avagantWell...it was wishful thinking.01:22
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Admiral_Chicagoavagant, what do you run?01:22
CosmoDaddmglouis_: hold "alt-gr" and press the "<>" key (lower left on a german keyboard)01:22
avagantUbuntu? Haha01:22
txoofcan I remove all the refering packages via a meta package?  e.g. I installed ubuntu-desktop and now want to remove all that was dependant on it.  Is there a way to do that?01:22
blindavagant, open a terminal, type ps aux and find out what's using all your memory.01:22
avagantDO you mean programs?01:22
Crippy-BoyWhat does ping have to do with your computer lagging?01:22
Phlostentxoof: only one by one afaik01:22
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: or just type "ifconfig eth0" and check the second line01:22
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blindCrippy-Boy: it doesn't.01:23
ellioTbcan't really tell if XFCE is faster01:23
ellioTbhrmmm01:23
keegan_I just downloaded Conky and its pretty sweet, but I was wondering if there is a way I can show what I am playing inside Amarok on my Desktop just like Conky shows how my system is going?  Anyone know how to do that or direct me in a direction would be really cool01:23
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blindkeegan, try #conky01:23
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ellioTbthey need like a gnome/kde/xfce benchmark01:23
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dmglouis_cosmodad: ok i got it: inet addr:192.168.2.132  Bcast:192.168.2.255   Mask: 255.255.255.001:23
lgccafuego: You familiar with networking problems (eth0 is dead after a reboot and no updates or messing around with parameters)?01:23
Crippy-Boyblind, Just what i was thinking :-/01:24
txoofIs there a way I can get apt to spit out all the packages that are refered to by a meta package?  I can then use that to remove everything...01:24
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok this looks like your machine is correctly configured with respect to IP address01:24
avagantI don't know what's making it run so bad.01:24
speudwhat do i write to go ubuntu-fr ?01:24
blindavagant, open a terminal, type `ps aux`01:24
Admiral_ChicagoellioTb, i hear KDE runs fster than GNOME01:24
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: are the cables connected correctly?01:24
speudno gnome is faster kde01:24
avagantThat's what I did.01:24
sureshotdoes anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine01:24
dmglouis_cosmodad: yes01:24
ellioTbAdmiral_Chicago, does it really? i heard the opposite01:24
Admiral_Chicagospeud, /join #ubuntu-fr01:25
blindit should tell you how much everything is using.01:25
avagantblind: That's what I did but I can't really see what's making it go crazy.01:25
blindpastebin it.01:25
ellioTbspeud, how about xfce vs. gnome, i am having a hard time telling01:25
dmglouis_cosmodad: it was just working before I reinstalled ubuntu01:25
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Knifanah that didn't work either01:25
blindellioTb: if you want fast, go with fluxbox :] 01:25
Knifai think i'll just need to wait till a fix is released that works01:25
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ellioTbblind, really? whats that, and where do i get!01:25
CosmoDaddmglouis_: not sure what the reinstallation changed... type "route -n" and tell me if there are any entries01:25
motinUpdated: http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToComfortablySwitchFromWindowsToUbuntu  I appreciate feedback and impromptu corrections (the wiki is open for everyone)01:25
blindellioTb: sudo apt-get install fluxbox01:26
avagant!pastebin01:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:26
ellioTbwell thats easy enough01:26
blindellioTb: it might be confusing to a novice, though. make sure you read the documentation :] 01:26
dmglouis_cosmodad: how do do a line break without actually sending the message?01:26
lgcnalioth: you there?01:26
ellioTbblind, to a novice? or a semi-noob like me01:26
sureshotdoes anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine01:26
CosmoDaddmglouis_: in IRC?01:26
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you can't, but use pastebin for that01:27
dmglouis_cosmodad: well i have trillian01:27
dmglouis_cosmodad: pastebin?01:27
blindellioTb: both. i love it, but it's not the easiest to work with.01:27
CosmoDad!tell dmglouis_ about pastebin01:27
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avagantblind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25609/01:28
ellioTbblind, well this comp is a 2.2ghz with 256m of ram with an ati radeon (laptop btw) and it seems SOOO slow in gnome01:28
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you'd paste the multi-line content within http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me the URL01:28
dmglouis_cosmodad: this is going to take some time01:28
CosmoDaddmglouis_: wait01:28
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: are you going to paste the route output?01:28
Crippy-BoyellioTb, Install Fbdesk and fluxconf with it, should make it a bit easier.01:28
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dmglouis_not paste but type01:28
ellioTbCrippy-Boy, thanx01:28
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orinocohi01:29
CosmoDaddmglouis_: there's an easier way...01:29
dmglouis_cosmodad:what?01:29
orinocowhen is ubuntu dapper supposed to be out?01:29
sureshotellioTb what modle is your card01:29
ellioTbsureshot, 350M01:29
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orinocono dapper, the nexto one :(01:29
lgchedix:01:29
ellioTborinoco, i am in dapper01:29
ellioTbheh01:29
CosmoDaddmglouis_: look at /etc/network/interfaces again, look up the "iface eth0" section and tell me whether there's a "gateway <IP address> entry below it01:29
cpk2i got the 686 kernel but cant tell how to double check that it isnt using SMP?01:29
sureshotelliotb do you know if it is fglrx compaitble01:29
Crippy-Boycpk2, uname -a?01:30
dmglouis_cosmodad:there is01:30
orinocoellioTb, i meant the new one, knot ?01:30
CosmoDaddmglouis_: what's the IP address?01:30
orinocohow is its name?01:30
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orinocoedgy eft01:30
ellioTbsureshot, it isn't when i tried last last, said no devices when i change it from ati to fglrx01:30
orinocothats it01:30
avagantwatch he leaves as soon as i try to get some help. heh01:30
dmglouis_cosmodad: 192.168.2.101:30
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and does it equal your router's address?01:30
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cpk2Crippy-Boy: says SMP PREEMPT I have no idea what that means01:30
orinocothen, when is edgy eft suposed to be out ????01:30
dmglouis_cosmodad:yes01:30
sureshotchecke this out01:30
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok. do you have any firewalls running?01:30
ellioTbprograms just seem to take FOREVER to start, but then run fine01:30
sureshot!nividia01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
sureshot!nvidia01:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:31
dmglouis_cosmodad:on this computer01:31
avagantmy programs are taking 10 years to load up too.01:31
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: no on the Ubuntu machine01:31
dmglouis_cosmodad:no01:31
vjacobis there a powerpc/mac ubuntu channel?01:31
sureshotellioTb check this out it will tell you if your card is and give you instrucktions on how to install01:31
blindavagant: not sure whats eating everything up :\01:31
Razor-Hey does anyone here use gaim for there msn account01:31
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keegan_I do01:31
dmglouis_cosmodad:and my router control panel shows the ubuntu box as connected01:31
ellioTbRazor-, i couldn't get it to work for mine, prolly just forgot my pas01:32
avagantwell it seems overnight my gb went down01:32
Razor-i block someone and i cant unblock them do you know how lol01:32
avaganti have like 4.3gb out of 10 left.01:32
avagantmaybe i should uninstall kde even though it's amazing and I like it.01:32
CosmoDaddmglouis_: it does? ok, then it's gotta be a software issue. are you connected via wire or wlan?01:32
blindRazor-: privacy. check your preferences.01:32
dmglouis_cosmodad: wire01:32
keegan_Razor-: I've never blocked anyone before but I believe its Tools>Privacy01:32
Crippy-Boyavagant, have you got gnome or xfce installed aswell as kde?01:32
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sureshotdoes anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine01:33
avaganti've gnome and kde.01:33
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ellioTbRazor-, get new friends?01:33
Crippy-Boyavagant, Uninstall gnome?01:33
avagantBut I heard it's hard to just uninstall it.01:33
avagantand wouldn't i have to get all the programs back?01:33
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and you said your two LAN machines cannot ping each other right?01:33
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Yonohi01:33
CosmoDaddmglouis_: like the ubuntu machine cannot ping the windows machine and the other way around01:33
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ?01:33
dmglouis_cosmodad: nope this and ubuntu cant01:33
Crippy-Boyavagant, I cant really answer that, never tried but it shouldnt be too difficult.01:34
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avagantCrippy-Boy: Someone just said it's a pain.01:34
CosmoDaddmglouis_: type "sudo iptables -L -n" and tell me whether all three policies are set to ACCEPT01:34
Yonomy dual monitors worked during installation and work during bootup, but only one monitor works on my desktop01:34
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Yonocan anyone help?01:34
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dmglouis_cosmodad:they are01:35
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ellioTbYono, what kind of video card01:35
Dekkardis there anyword of screensaver locking up systems?01:35
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and each chain only(!) contains a line like this: "target     prot opt source               destination" ?01:35
YonoellioTb: Nvidia ti4200 w/ ap8x01:35
Yonolspci -v says its installed fine01:35
malice_what program can I use to convert pictures that I took to a smaller size so I can email them? The Pictures are around 2 megs a piece01:35
dmglouis_cosmodad:yes01:35
Yonobut only during bootup do both monitors work01:36
nexsananyone know the command to install the build essentials?01:36
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok. when you ping your router or the windows host, what does ping return as error message?01:36
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avagantThere's one.01:36
w30malice_, gimp, xv01:36
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avagantCan I kill things from the command line, processes?01:36
malice_w30: ty01:36
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avagantOr would I have better success doing it from system monitor?01:36
Knifaokay seems i have to add "all-generic-ide" to get it to work01:36
Knifaa command rather01:36
Knifabut how do i do that?01:36
dmglouis_cosmodad:3 pckts trans, 0 rcvd, +3 errors, 100% packet loss01:36
w30malice_, xv01:36
dmglouis_cosmodad: and time 1999ms01:37
CosmoDaddmglouis_: I mean something like "Destination Host Unreachable" ?01:37
nexsanAnyone know the command to build-essentials?01:37
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Crippy-Boynexsan, sudo apt-get install build-essential01:37
dmglouis_cosmodad:yes01:37
avagantI don't have bluetooth and in fact I deleted it, but apparently it's still running.01:37
dmglouis_cosmodad:that too01:37
nexsanthank you Crippy01:37
blindI *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.01:37
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: geez...01:37
dmglouis_cosmodad:what?01:37
KnifaHow do I add the "all-generic-ide" to the kernel? D:01:38
CosmoDaddmglouis_: jesus01:38
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w30malice_, it's an old simple Unix graphics program by John Bradley01:38
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dmglouis_cosmodad: i know it can work, i got it working last time01:38
ellioTbman, i like this fluxbox01:38
CosmoDaddmglouis_: your prob is either really simple and I can't seem to figure it or really hard01:38
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ellioTbnice and clean01:38
blindellioTb:  :D it's wonderful. fully customizable.01:38
Crippy-BoyellioTb, Wait till you start messing with the conf files ;-)01:38
avagantfluxbox?01:38
dmglouis_cosmodad:last time it was not that hard i dont think01:38
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lgcavagant: there are several possibilities: "kill -9 PID" or, better, "pkill -KILL name"01:38
blindellioTb: just make sure you run nautilus with --no-desktop01:38
CosmoDaddmglouis_: what worries me is the fact that it looks correct01:38
vjacob_is there a powerpc/mac ubuntu channel?01:39
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ellioTbCrippy-Boy, i know, its so simple right now, where are all the confs01:39
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nexsananyone know a good place to find cedega documentation?01:39
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ellioTbblind, ok, i'll figger out how to do that01:39
Crippy-BoyellioTb, Read the fluxbox docs, you'll learn plenty from them01:39
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vjacob_anyone here watch TV on their mac? I am thinking more about analog or DTT than IPTV-based situations...01:39
sureshotdoes anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine01:39
ellioTbCrippy-Boy, alright thanx01:40
avagantnautilus --no-desktop?01:40
CosmoDaddmglouis_: please do "cat /etc/network/run/ifstate" and tell me how many lines the output gives?01:40
avagantWhat does that do?01:40
nexsansureshot use cedega01:40
blindsureshot: http://appdb.winehq.org/01:40
avagantI think i might uninstall kubuntu.01:40
Crippy-Boysureshot, Just try it, I doubt it though, you might have more luck with cedega01:40
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nexsani need a cedega manual01:40
avagantEven though there's alot of really good programs I like.01:40
lgcavagant: did you read my last post?01:40
avagantno?01:40
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sureshotyou have to pay for cedega and they are snobs on there channel01:40
lgcavagant: about killing processes...01:40
avagantoooh01:40
avagantyah01:40
dmglouis_cosmodad:no such file01:41
nexsanyou have to pay for cedega?01:41
NickABuseyI plug in an external USB drive, and it shows up in my Dev Manager for like 10 seconds, then disappears from the list again. Any ideas why?01:41
Razor-what other msn clients are there for ubuntu01:41
nexsanlol01:41
avagantIt still running pretty slow.01:41
nexsani suppose you have to pay for linux as well huh?01:41
nexsanlol01:41
Crippy-Boysureshot, snobs? :P01:41
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sureshotwhy can you get it with out paying01:41
blindnexsan, you're on the internet ;)01:41
zircxhey guys, hows it going, I'm looking to try something new as a desktop enviroment, ubuntu might be the go heh..01:41
nexsanlol01:41
vjacob__razor, have you looked at mercury and amsn?01:41
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you sure?01:41
nexsanthat's what i'm trying to tell sure01:41
CosmoDaddmglouis_: no typo?01:41
Razor-no thanks01:41
vjacob__i think they are both crossplatform01:41
nexsanthis si the internet01:41
nexsan....01:41
ellioTbCrippy-Boy, whats a good site for themes/styles? boxwhore.org?01:42
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dmglouis_cosmodad:ys01:42
blindellioTb: yes01:42
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sureshotCrippy-Boy yes as i said was over there yesterday asked a question and got called stupid for my troubles01:42
NickABuseyI plug in an external USB drive, and it shows up in my Dev Manager for like 10 seconds, then disappears from the list again. Any ideas why?01:42
avagant!fluxbox01:42
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox01:42
nexsanhttp://www.gnome-look.org01:42
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blindboxwhore > gnome-look for fluxbox01:42
avagantHow do I delete kubuntu without having any problems?01:42
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CCmonsterhey01:42
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok... do "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" and change the "iface eth0 inet static" to "iface eth0 inet dhcp"...01:42
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ellioTbblind, this seems 100X faster01:42
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CCmonsterwhay kind of bluetooth support is there in Ubuntu?01:42
blindellioTb: it's wonderful :] 01:42
CosmoDaddmglouis_: save and exit gedit, then do "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"01:42
zircxblah that was annoying..01:43
lgcavagant: never try "kill -9 -1"!01:43
avagantlgc: Why not? Hehe01:43
avagantI seem to be good at ruining other things.01:43
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and tell me whether you can see a DHCP request attempt and its result01:43
Crippy-Boyavagant, did you just install it ontop of ubuntu?01:43
lgcavagant: Wanna try?01:43
avagantYah Crippy-Boy I did.01:43
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avagantlgc: No, I'll pass.01:43
nexsancedega anyone?01:43
dmglouis_cosmodad:ok01:43
avagantlgc: I'll have to keep track of it.01:43
nexsanbefore i hit the crack pipe and forget what i was doing...01:44
ellioTbblind, how do you install these styles, only if its an easy explanation, otherwise i'll go try to look it up01:44
lgcavagant: you better. But be advised that it'll kill all your processes, in case you need.01:44
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blindellioTb: move it to ~/.fluxbox/styles01:44
dmglouis_cosmodad:i still cant ping the router01:44
avagantI just don't understand why I'm like super slow dude.01:44
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ellioTbblind, unzipped or in the gz01:44
CosmoDaddmglouis_: after you did the ifup-part, did it show a bunch of lines?01:44
avagantIt's faster then it was before, but.01:44
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blindellioTb: unzipped, but still in individual folders01:45
dmglouis_cosmodad:ifup?01:45
zircxI'm looking for to possibly try something new, ubuntu looks like a good option, does the desktop enviroment come with the samba tools for setting up a linux machine that can share with window xp machines? or do those tools come with part of the server installation01:45
avagantIt's like I'm running an old apple or something.01:45
CosmoDaddmglouis_: "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"01:45
ryanakcahow do you set the interval between each image when using image magick? animate *.png  is what I'm using, and they go too fast01:45
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Crippy-Boyavagant, what are your machine specs?01:45
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blindryanakca: have you read the man file? there's a switch, i think it's -d but im not sure.01:46
jribryanakca: animate -help, says there is a -delay option01:46
dmglouis_cosmodad: a lot lines just cam now01:46
avagantI don't know haha.01:46
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avagantI have 2 10 gb hd's..01:46
nexsanzircx: i have windows on another partition and it sees them fine01:46
nexsanfrom the moment i installed01:46
CosmoDaddmglouis_: try pinging again01:46
nexsani can access the files, but i can't write to them...01:46
avagantCrippy-Boy: I got this off Craigslist, I guess I deserve it.01:46
dmglouis_cosmodad:its still busy01:46
nexsani can also copy them onto the linux part.01:46
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok01:46
blindnexsan: is the drive NTFS ?01:46
ellioTbblind, once they are there, do i do a reconfigure?01:46
jominonexsan, do you have windows on ntfs?01:47
ryanakcablind: jrib: yep, I was reading animate *.png ... never thought to search for the term 'delay'...01:47
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blindellioTb: they should show up automatically.01:47
dmglouis_cosmodad: doing dhcpdiscover01:47
blindright click, then down to styles.01:47
nexsanjomino yes01:47
zircxnexsan , you can access the files from windows to linux? but can't write to those files, or vice versa?01:47
nexsani have a 320 SATA drive01:47
dmglouis_cosmodad: the network is unreachable now01:47
avagantOk like I said how hard is it to uninstall kubuntu-desktop without screwing everything up?01:47
nexsanwith 200 for windows01:47
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nexsanntfs01:47
blindnexsan, linux doesn't yet have full NTFS support.01:47
nexsansplit in two01:47
nexsanwell i'm running xp on ntfs on the same drive01:47
ellioTbblind, they did thanx, fbdesk is the desktop thing?01:47
nexsanand i switch between the two01:48
CosmoDaddmglouis_: :/  this wasn't a help. revert the changes (substitute the "dhcp" by "static" again) and do the "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0" again afterwards01:48
blindnexsan, you didn't install linux on NTFS. a partition was made.01:48
nexsani know01:48
jominonexsan, thats normal...there is a patch afair but i don't know where to get it and if it works well01:48
nexsani didn't say i did01:48
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blindellioTb: im not sure what fbdesk is.01:48
La_PaRCaHey, I f I want to connecto to a windows machine should I use RDP or RDPv5 from the terminal services client?01:48
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REALFLEOis the command a2ensite supporte on ubuntu01:49
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overriddengood evening01:49
AlethesREALFLEO:  yeah, that's an apache thing, not distro specific01:49
zircxso what's the big difference from having a ubuntu desktop with any other distro for that matter?01:49
avagantblind: Were you the one who said they'd never tried to uninstall kubuntu-desktop?01:49
sureshotno it is not a good eve.. but glad you are having one01:49
blindavagant: no. but i also haven't :P01:49
avagantI don't have wanna like 3 desktop environments.01:50
nexsanubuntu is the name of the distro, it runs Gnome desktop environment01:50
avagantbut i don't want it to ruin anything.01:50
Dr_willisavagant,  basicially you fire up synaptic and start searching/uninstalling any kde related packages you see01:50
ellioTbblind, then what do you use for a desktop, or do you just not have one01:50
nexsanif you like KDE better, get Kubuntu01:50
Dr_willisit 'shouldent' hurt anything01:50
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overriddenwhats the security difference between using your router as dns of using the dns from your isp directly ? whats the best thing to do ?01:50
avagantDr_willis: Are you serious that could take hours.01:50
REALFLEOok cuz  the cobash: a2ensite: command not found01:50
blindellioTb: i used to run fluxbox, but now im in gnome. (so i can run beryl <3)01:50
nexsani use the dns from my isp01:50
jribavagant: removing some important kde library like libqt3-mt should do the trick (or use deborphan)01:50
dmglouis_cosmodad: now it says no such process01:50
Dr_willisavagant, Yep. theres no 'quick and easy way ' to do it - UNLESS you installed it with aptitude.01:50
REALFLEOcan I manually put the file in sites-enabled ?01:51
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sorush20hi01:51
zircxoverridden . dns from the isp, only because they've got backup dns servers, or you can use your own with your isp as a back up dns server01:51
blindhi01:51
avagantI don't remember how I installed it.01:51
CosmoDaddmglouis_: when does it say that?01:51
Dr_willisavagant,  theres a web site  that lists the standard packages installed by kubuntu-desktop. but i dont rember the url..01:51
sureshotblind beryl is very nice01:51
dmglouis_cosmodad: SIOCDELRT: No such process01:51
avagantI'm not sure if I used apt or aptitute.01:51
blindsureshot: sure is :q01:51
dmglouis_cosmodad: after ifdown and ifup01:51
sorush20how do I recover a file that I accidentally deleted.. I did sudo rm /etc/modules01:51
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok, but you did revert the change?01:51
jribDr_willis, avagant: the website is psychocats or something similar, so googling for kubuntu psychocats should do it01:51
dmglouis_cosmodad:yea01:51
blindsorush20: why did you do that? :[01:51
Dr_willisavagant,  try aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop personally  I never unisntall stuff.01:51
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avagantSo if I deleted kubuntu-desktop completely would it ruin gnome and everything else?01:51
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sureshotblind got it working yesterday it was worth the trouble are you xgl or aixgl01:52
avagantWell I think that's why my computer is running like it's from the stoneage.01:52
sorush20blind: accident.. I wanted to delte something else..01:52
lgcsorush20: not many options...01:52
blindsureshot: xgl.01:52
avagantBecause I have gnome and kde.01:52
Dr_willisavagant,  kubuntu-desktop is a meta-pacakge - it may not really remove much at all.01:52
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: I'm kinda lost right now01:52
Dr_willisavagant,  if it reloves too much - you can always reinstall stuff.01:52
dmglouis_cosmodad:lol01:52
zircxI've become more accustomed to gnome over kde.. which is a nice relief, because i felt as though gnome got lost in their development at one point01:52
avagantBut it came with 150 files Dr_willis01:52
CosmoDaddmglouis_: I'll come over to your place and fix the prob myself ;)01:52
sureshotblind same here aigxl is  not compatable to my ati card01:52
ellioTbblind, does the transparency work for everyone in flux, it hates me01:52
Dr_willisavagant,  and your point is? :)01:52
avagantI like the Kommand line too in kde.01:53
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blindellioTb: transparency isn't that big in flux.01:53
dmglouis_cosmodad: thanks for the help anyway01:53
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avagantBut I think it's killing my computer.01:53
blindsureshot: yeah, i've got an old nvidia card.01:53
pushpophi all01:53
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you're welcome. oh, one last thing:01:53
nexsani'm a gnome01:53
dmglouis_cosmodad: yes?01:53
Dr_willisavagant,  i dont see how having kde and gnome both installed would affect the computer01:53
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pushpopare there any 64-bit users in the house?01:53
sorush20well is there anyway I could undelete the file? surely there must be.01:53
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you didn't set up your router *after* you've booted your ubuntu box did you?01:53
sureshotblind aigxl is supposed to be compatable to nividia card01:53
dmglouis_cosmodad: no01:53
zircxI'm just trying to figure out what the biggest advanatages would be going with ubuntu as a desktop01:54
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blindsureshot: ALL of them? I don't know, I just installed it two days ago. Didn't know anything about it :] 01:54
avagantWell I don't have many GB on this HD01:54
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rylasasinhi guys i'm having a few problems01:54
zircxi guess, the bleeding edge software and technology that it has would be an advantage ..01:54
rylasasinI can't get sound to play from YTMND.com01:54
simplahi peoples01:54
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok. I suggest you reboot your ubuntu box before continuing to fix your problem01:54
avagantThat didn't work at all.01:54
blindrylasasin: that's because it's flash01:54
sureshotblind let me find an url i will post it to you in a few ok01:54
dmglouis_cosmodad: lol im doing it right now01:54
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blindsureshot, sure.01:54
CosmoDaddmglouis_: :)01:54
theunruledhihi people, I have a centrino CPU, would I need linux-386 or linux-686?01:55
simplais there anyone into development on ubuntu here?01:55
avagantwait what?01:55
pushpopi have two separate hard drives, one with ubuntu and the other with Windows XP, I just installed Ubuntu with GRUB but when I boot my system no boot menu is presented to me and it just boots windows01:55
sorush20asdf01:55
rylasasinI have the flash plugin I think01:55
avagant"kubuntu-desktop not installed so not removed?"01:55
pushpopcan anyone help me01:55
sorush20asdf01:55
nexsancause windows has the MBR01:55
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avagantI'm using kde right now.01:55
collier_Excuse me, I just installed ACCT threw Synaptic Package Manager now how do I access it?01:55
lgcsorush20: ghjk01:55
nexsangrub was suppose to be installed on the first drive01:55
avagantHow is it not installed?01:55
zircxwhat do people prefer as a standard installation, the server or desktop? and are their many differences from a package install perspective or is it the fact that the server just offers a working LAMP on install01:55
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nexsanwhat you can do is make the second drive first in the bios01:55
blindavagant: did you install kde?01:55
pushpopnexsan: thanks01:56
sorush20so I have deleted the file /etc/modules how do i get it back01:56
pushpopwill try it01:56
nexsan;)01:56
collier_Excuse me, I just installed ACCT threw Synaptic Package Manager now how do I access it, like what command do I type in terminal????01:56
nexsando the boot priority01:56
rylasasinso what do I need to make YTMND work?01:56
Razor-what was that mercury messenger what is its file name i cant find it in synaptic01:56
blindrylasasin: you can install flash 9 with wine.01:56
simplazircx: desktop.   Server install is best if you want to setup a console box with server stuff, like web server, etc01:56
nexsanftp...01:56
pushpopi dunno if the boot order meny allows you to specify the drives, i think it just loads whichever one you specify in the bios01:56
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pushpophopefully that made sense01:57
sureshotblind are you running dapper or edgy01:57
zircxsimpla, ok, that makes sense, i've already got an independent server running my services at the moment, so I'm really looking for a tidy desktop enviroment01:57
blindsureshot: dapper01:57
nexsanyou should be able to adjust the boot priority individually, depending on the bios...01:57
zircxalso aixgl / xgl looks like nice eye candy01:57
nexsananyone know the package name for xlibs?01:57
nexsanit's not under xlibs01:57
blindzircx: oh it is.01:57
bm0nkWould anyone be able to give me some 1-2-1 advice on setting up prism54usb? ( im using http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/01:57
blindzircx: it's wonderful eye candy. want some screenshots? xD01:58
zircxyeah dump a couple please blind01:58
simplazircx, install the ubuntu desktop!  Its what I am running now, and its great, with plans to setup a home server using the server install01:58
pushpopI havent tried it in the BIOS, but in the boot menu when i hit F12 it doesnt seem to specify the individual drives01:58
Dr_willisnexsan,  its obsolited..  its part of an older package. but no longre really need.01:58
pushpopmaybe im mistaken though01:58
pushpopwow, this place is busy :-)01:58
nexsanDr_willis: cedega is asking for it....01:58
pushpopim used to IRC channels with 100 people max01:58
Dr_willisnexsan,  cedega wanted it.. i edited the cedega.deb and removed the dependency.. or the wiki/forums discuss other ways to get around the issue01:58
zircxblind , does it restrict the ability to play games also?01:58
Dr_willisnexsan,  cedega is stupid that way. :P ive seen other apps want it as well.01:59
zircxUT etc etc..01:59
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nexsancheeses01:59
nexsanok01:59
nexsannow to get around this01:59
rylasasinI have wine, now how do I get to flash 9?01:59
blindzircx: not afaik01:59
nexsanthat's why i love linux01:59
nexsan:o01:59
zircxk01:59
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keegan_To get the dependecy errors off Cedega deb just use alien to turn it into a .tgz then back to a .deb01:59
CyberSlugIs there anyone here able to help me with a beagle indexing problem: it seems to freeze on a task, utilising 100% CPU, and doing nothing.01:59
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zircxI knew i owned an xbox for a reason..01:59
nexsankeegan: you got me01:59
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zircxblind , where are those screenies..02:00
avagantIt's kde.02:00
rylasasinwhere do I get flash 9 from here?02:00
avagantblind: It's more definitley kde that's making my computer slow.02:00
zircxflash 9, as in the plugin?02:00
avagantBut I cant uninstall it!02:00
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rylasasinyes02:00
DrSpin!wpa02:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:00
rylasasinfor firefox02:00
bm0nkIm trying to setup the prism54usb from http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/ - but I'm pretty new to linux so im not 100% sure on what im doing...would anyone be able to help?02:01
blindzircx: I'll pm em to you02:01
keegan_Linux doesn't have flash 902:01
blindavagant: are you IN kde?02:01
blindkeegan_: you can install it with wine. >_>02:01
rylasasinyeah but you said you could install it through wine02:01
Dr_willisavagant,  id like to see your proof that kde is definitley the issue02:01
adam410Hi, I'm running an ubuntu LAMP server, and I'd like to modify the DHCP settings so that my router (apple airport via eth0) doesn't assign a random internal IP, suck that it is static and ports are always forwarded to it. how do u modify the DHCP settings from $02:01
keegan_Can you use linux Firefox with flash 9 on wine?02:01
zircxdamn, I'm still on flash 7.0r2502:01
blindkeegan_: yes02:01
avagantblind: I'm not in kde anymore.02:02
keegan_You know where I could find a tutorial on that?02:02
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avagantblind: I ctrl alt backspaced02:02
sureshotblind try this one for started i did not save the one i wanted to send you sorry.. i also wene to the cannels xgl and aixgl and askquestion02:02
nexsanadam: enter the ip of your router in a web browser window02:02
sureshotblind http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/02:02
thermionicanyone here got a working mirrors.list for apt-mirror ?02:02
blindavagant: then kde isn't slowing you down02:02
nexsanyou should be able to access the router, don't know not a mac guy, but that's how other routers work02:02
avagantBut I was when it was slowing me down.02:02
avagantGnome seems to be running fine.02:02
blindavagant: then don't run kde02:03
avagantWell duh!02:03
avagantxD02:03
keegan_avagant if Gnome and KDE are slow why not us XFCE or Fluxbox.02:03
adam410nexasn: it uses a mac application for admin, and it doesn't support changing the internal IP from the router, it has to been done via DHCP, i had to go thru this on my mac.02:03
thermionicadam you need to config the DHCP service on the router, not the client02:03
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avagantkeegan_: I can't get kde to uninstall!02:03
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collier_Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?02:03
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keegan_avagant: Did you install it through the Repos?02:04
avagantI just wish I could install Konsule instead of termial.02:04
adam410thermionic: this apple router doesnt allow that, it needs to be done from the client02:04
blindavagant: you can.02:04
JohnNash27892hello .. i need some help with ubuntu on ibook g402:04
avagantI like the black look of the kde terminal.02:04
CyberSlugkeegan_, http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ - That's the url to keep up to date about Flash 9 for linux02:04
Dr_willisavagant,  you mean konsole ?02:04
JohnNash27892i cant get the wired network to work02:04
keegan_CyberSlug: Thanks dude02:04
collier_Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?02:04
avagantkonsole doesn't show up in gnome?02:04
JohnNash27892can anybody help ?02:04
avagantkeegan_: I did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I believe.02:05
avagantI can't remember what I did.02:05
thermionicI think you actually need to run an apple program on the client to configure the routre02:05
CyberSlugkeegan_, No problem **^^**02:05
blindavagant, just run it. ALT+F2 konsole02:05
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w30 avagant with gnome-terminal you can change colors with editing profiles for terminal02:05
sorush20I accidentally deleted my modules file in /etc/ what will happen if I restart the computer?02:05
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avagantyay konsole! ^_^02:05
blindavagant: :] 02:05
avagantbut anyways, I don't know how to get rid of kde.02:05
collier_Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?02:06
CosmoDadsorush20: those modules might not get loaded during boot-up02:06
avagantBut everything seems to be running smooth on gnome.02:06
blindavagant: is it necessary? lol02:06
nexsa1that's what i get for trying to edit the DHCP while i'm online02:06
nexsa1:(02:06
holycowyou need to remove the main kde library ... i forget what it is.  ask #kde302:06
sorush20CosmoDad: how can i fix this ?02:06
holycowremove the library and it will remove pretty much all of kde, outside of non de apps02:06
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JohnNash27892anybody help me on enabling network on ibook g4 with ubuntu ?02:06
CosmoDadsorush20: use your backups. you have backups, right?02:06
avagantholycow: But if I do that, won't all the programs go bye bye?02:06
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holycowsorush20, it probably wont boot02:06
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collier_Hello, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?02:07
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holycowavagant, only the programs as part of kde desktop and those that rely on the libraries02:07
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holycowyou can reinstall those later02:07
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sorush20CosmoDad: no I don#t fuxk have back ups02:07
holycowi'm assuming you have gnome or some other de already installed and working however02:07
jribcollier_: type 'dpkg -L | grep bin'  that should help02:07
simplacollier_,  check out http://www.gnu.org/software/acct/manual/html_mono/accounting.html  according to it one of the commands is  'ac' without the quotes02:07
avagantI do.02:07
jribcollier_: type 'dpkg -L PACKAGE| grep bin'  that should help02:07
CosmoDadsorush20: I think your machine will boot anyways, some parts may not work, however02:07
avagantI'm running gnome and it's working like nothings wrong.02:07
avagantBut in KDE all my stuff is very sluggish.02:08
CosmoDadsorush20: did you ever make changes to that file yourself?02:08
holycowsorush20, backup your /home dir, then reinstall02:08
AngelShineHi?02:08
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blindavagant: what are the computer specs?02:08
avagantblind: I really have no idea.02:08
ruzgarhow can i post a new topic in ubuntuforums ?02:08
CosmoDadholycow: why you think his machine won't work anymore?02:08
ruzgari am a member02:08
theunruledhii, i have a question ^^02:08
ruzgarof ubuntuforums02:08
blindask it02:08
sorush20CosmoDad: no I didn#t02:08
avagantblind: I bought it off craigslist.02:08
theunruledblind: what kernel does centrino need?02:08
zircx_argh annoying, nice shots btw..02:08
theunruled386 or 68602:08
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sorush20holycow: I just have done a new reinstall02:08
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nexsa138602:08
avagantblind: That's kind of why I have Ubuntu in the first place.02:08
CosmoDadsorush20: then boot from a ubuntu live cd, copy the /etc/modules file and restore it within your HD-booted Ubuntu02:08
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theunrulednexal: oh okay =]  thanks02:09
nexsa1everything that is not 64 bit needs 38602:09
holycowCosmoDad, i'm suggesting a backup plan, and optional recovery that will work, i have no idea what will happen if he reboots.  however, he should backup /home BEFORE he even thinks about rebooting :)02:09
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sorush20CosmoDad: is the live cd the same as the insall alternative cd now?02:09
holycowi hope that outlines it02:09
nexsa1nexsal! my name is wrong lol02:09
nexsa1there02:09
nexsa1nope02:09
theunrulednexsa1: sorry ^^;02:09
CosmoDadsorush20: not sure02:09
nexsa1lol02:09
theunruledi'm not used to tab yet02:09
nexsa1no worries my tupo02:09
rylasasinnow how do I use flash 9 in linux firefox?02:10
sorush20is there a program that you can install that will prevent things ike this from happening.?02:10
nexsa1ok i need to smoke more crack today02:10
simplablind, is that shots of the Xgl stuff?  Could I get the link too so I can have a look?02:10
CosmoDadholycow: /etc/modules just contains modules that should be loaded *explicitly*, that's all02:10
AngelShineHi, I wanted to ask: where can I get the default /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (I think I messed it up)02:10
zircxi see that suse, uses xen, does ubuntu allow for something similar?02:10
ryanakcaanother imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly, but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation... I can't seem to find a -export option...02:10
blindsimpla, I'll PM you.02:10
adam410any ideas on how to modify DHCP setting from $?02:10
avagantNobody is answering my questions in the other room. Haha02:10
DrSpinanyone wiling to assist with XFCE/wpa-psk ??02:10
CosmoDadsorush20: generally, you should be more careful when being root02:10
holycowCosmoDad, *nod* i was thinking that might prevent it from loading if he had some weird hardware ... you are probably correct02:10
Centaur5I understand that the 2.6 kernel dropped hardware support for old parts.  How old would a computer have to be to not work with Ubuntu?02:10
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nexsa1f02:11
CosmoDadsorush20: how did you delete it?02:11
blindf indeed02:11
holycowCentaur5, commedore 64 i'm thinking?02:11
avagantGrowl!02:11
holycow*cough*02:11
AngelShineHelloo!! Is there anybody non-busy for a video conf Q ?02:11
holycowoh i slay me02:11
holycow>_>02:11
nexsa1what the hell /nick doesn't work...02:11
Centaur5holycow: So a 233 or 450 mhz should work?02:11
Dr_willisCentaur5,  perhaps one with isa slots.. of course it depends on the specific parts.02:11
nexsa1any good irc clients for linux, other than gaim?02:11
zircxCentaur5 , absolutely02:11
blindnexsa1, xchat, irssi02:11
holycowusre, but you will need to use a very lightweight desktop environment on those02:12
Dr_willisCentaur5,  ubuntu runs on a Pent I  100 machine of mine02:12
holycowlike xfce02:12
nexsa1blind: which one do you use?02:12
sorush20CosmoDad: tell it to my pinkie, just sudo rm /etc/modules02:12
CosmoDadsorush20: to prevent accidental deletion via shell, you can force certain commands like mv and rm to prompt back to you before doing dangerous things02:12
nexsa1linux runs on anything man02:12
blindnexsa1: irssi. but it's console based.02:12
Centaur5Okay, thanks.  I was just curious whether or not to bother installing Ubuntu on machines that old.02:12
nexsa1unlike windoze02:12
AngelShineHi? (Again)02:12
CosmoDadsorush20: you're nuts to do something like that :)02:12
Centaur5Dr_willis: Wow, does it still perform decent?02:12
thermionicadam, you 'enable'; dhcp or you run a static IP, you don't have special dcp settings that the server sees, unless apple really broke dhcp02:12
holycowCentaur5, for file servers, webservers, firewalls sure02:12
nexsa1ok02:12
holycowi use lots of those kinds of machines for that02:12
blindHi, AngelShine.02:12
AngelShineHi! =)02:12
rylasasinguys, I downloaded an installed flash 9 (windows) using wine02:12
holycowinfact those used to be very good desktops02:12
AngelShineThank you !!02:12
blindAngelShine: what do you need02:12
rylasasinnow how do I make it work?02:12
Centaur5holycow: I'm talking about a replacement for 9802:12
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zircxyes i use to run slack 7.0 on a 233mhz and it run pretty good02:13
Dr_willisCentaur5,  i never said that. :P it did the console very well.. and  i installed some very very light window managers.. it did ok.02:13
zircx256mb of ram..02:13
holycowyou can install xfce desktop if you want, it will be pretty speedy and nice, you just haveto install the maximum amount of ram into those02:13
zircxif that..02:13
thermionicnobody here knows about the binutils issue with apt-mirror or debmirrotr then I guess02:13
Dr_willisCentaur5,  the Install took a few hrs. :(  1x cdrom02:13
ryanakcaanother imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)02:13
AngelShineI think I messed up my /etc/X11/org.conf and wnated to know how coudl I get it backl to the default one02:13
CosmoDadsorush20: what's pinkie? your dog? ;)02:13
sorush20CosmoDad: no me my pinkei small finger that likes to reach for the enter button..02:13
Centaur5Dr_willis: Ouch, sounds rather painful.  :)02:13
holycowwhich i'm guessing should be around 300 mb or so? that should be more than enough to even run open office once in a while from xfce02:13
njal!xgl02:13
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:13
blindAngelShine: did you make a backup? :] 02:13
AngelShineI don't remember =(02:13
holycow!aiglx02:14
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.02:14
AngelShinethe thing is02:14
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rylasasinguys how do you make flash 9 work in linux firefox?02:14
AngelShineI messed with the conf a few days ago, and now I messed with it again02:14
CosmoDadsorush20: there're only two solutions: (1) ask someone else to be root for you or (2) DO BACKUPS02:14
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AngelShinethis time the X did not start02:14
Centaur5holycow: Okay, perhaps I'll give it a shot then with a different window manager.02:14
CosmoDadsorush20: those solutions written in capital letters are to be preferred :)02:14
blindAngelShine: you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to redo the whole thing02:14
CaptainMorganhas X-Chat's bottom tab feature been removed?02:14
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AngelShinei got it back from a backup02:14
bdragonmslanyone know of any good guides for getting xgl up and running?02:14
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blindCaptainMorgan: not afaik02:14
holycowCentaur5, you don't loose much, its a good learning experience02:14
dezYo02:14
zircxAngelShine , you should be able to run xorgconfig in a console and it should start you at the xorg configuration which will make a xorg.conf if it's been deleted02:14
blindbdragonmsl: try #ubuntu-xgl02:14
nexsa1Dr_Willis: how can i bypass xlibs again?02:14
Dr_willisbdragonmsl,  i found it best to not mess with xgl02:14
bdragonmslthanks02:14
CaptainMorganblind, it's set to bottom, yet it is not appearing at the bottom - rather to the left in a tree02:15
Dr_willisnexsa1,  i edited the .deb file following a forum/wiki link i found.02:15
rylasasinHow do I use flash 9 on linux firefox?02:15
Centaur5holycow: Do you think customizing and stripping down the kernel will make a significant difference to be worth it?02:15
AngelShine@blind: so I should first delete it or just run that=02:15
blindCaptainMorgan: that's a separate option. set it to tabs and not tree.02:15
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Dr_willisnexsa1,  or you can track down an old xlibs deb and install it02:15
holycowCentaur5, not at all02:15
blindAngelShine: just run that02:15
dezanyone know about s3 unichrome via?02:15
AngelShinegreat!02:15
AngelShinethank you!02:15
holycowCentaur5, there is no such thing as customizing a kernel on debian and its relatives02:15
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CaptainMorganblind, can you be specific? Im looking but I don' tsee it02:15
holycowthose kernels are mostly modularized, the kernel loads only what it needs to02:15
CaptainMorganblind, omg nevermind02:16
holycowthat is to say the kernel configures it self02:16
blindCaptainMorgan: I'm not really sure. It's been a while since I've used X-Chat02:16
CaptainMorganit's in view02:16
blindCaptainMorgan: lol :] 02:16
CaptainMorgannot in preferences like I thought02:16
holycowyou would really only need to configure a kernel under some specific workloads, like embedded applications02:16
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Centaur5holycow: Really?  Well I guess I'll never waste my time doing that.  :)02:16
holycowindeed02:16
holycowdo it only if you want to learn02:16
holycowif you wanna do something cool02:16
CaptainMorgan!ubotu mp302:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:17
holycowinstall ubuntu full on any machine02:17
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holycowthen take the hd to any other machine and turn the power on02:17
Centaur5holycow: I guess it would save some disk space but that's all?02:17
holycowall you haveto make sure is that the hard drive is on the same part of the ide chain and channel02:17
ryanakcaanother imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)02:17
holycowCentaur5, few megs? why bother? you should have a 10 gig hd around a 233 might be able to see that02:17
MissLadyanyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.02:18
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Centaur5holycow: So you're saying that if you do a computer upgrade you won't have to do a repair install like with windows xp?02:18
holycowindeed, no point02:18
holycowapt just downlaods lattest packages02:18
holycowyou only reboot if the kernel is updated02:18
Centaur5holycow: I mean, it rarely happens but sometimes a new mb will make xp need to be repaired.02:18
sorush20doing backups the very dynamic and prefared way is to hard..02:18
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holycowCentaur5, not on linux or at least debian.  as everything is modular youthe kernel either has the drivers or they don't exist02:19
Centaur5holycow: The worst is when it won't let you login one freaking time afterwards cause it wants to be activated.02:19
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holycowbasicaly 98% of all hardware just works, plug and trully play02:19
zircxCentaur5 , kernel configurations are normally hardware specific, it just saves having a bloated kernel, which is relative to the boot process, it's not a major, you can actually configure and tweak your hardware once booted02:19
holycowCentaur5, kiss ms goodbye forever :) welcome to ubuntu.02:20
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holycowas with any change there are things to learn and bumps to hit but you'll be fine02:20
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blindzircx: did you get those screenshots?02:20
zircxblind , yes thankyou02:20
rylasasinHOW DO YOU USE FLASH 9 ON FIREFOX FOR LINUX?02:20
Centaur5holycow: Well I already have but I'm still learning.  I didn't know much about putting it on older machines as I have a core duo laptop that works great with it.02:20
holycowrylasasin, you don't the plugin doesn't exist yet02:20
blindrylasasin: install it with wine.02:20
holycowadobe is writing one02:21
zircxI said thanks earlier, but I must have pinged out prior to the message hitting the screen lol02:21
blindholycow: you can install it with wine >_>02:21
holycowrylasasin, welcome to the totally crappy world of proprietary software02:21
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simplaCentaur5, what laptop did you are you using it on?02:21
holycowwhere you are at the mercy of  the software vendor02:21
Centaur5simpla: Sony VGN-SZ140P02:21
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holycowwhat blind said yeah, that can maybe work but i refuse to run icky windows software on my boxen02:21
holycow>_>02:21
rylasasinI did install it with whine02:21
ryan_how do i install/enable 3d acceleration02:21
rylasasinbut how do I use it (I want to veiw ytmnd in linux)02:21
holycowrylasasin, you need to install windows firefox on winve first02:22
blindmine worked right away02:22
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holycowthen install the windows version of the plugin02:22
blindholycow: no you don't02:22
holycowwhat?02:22
blindI have flash9 in my linux ff02:22
Bird[OnLinux] What command do I use to intall a program that I just downloaded?02:22
holycowsince when does wine integrate into regular apps?02:22
simplaoh ok.  I ordered an Acer 5614, but couldn't find much info on it regarding if ubuntu picked all the hardware up.  I did find one forum post with some guy using it and said it ran fine.  Bout all he said.  So hoping it works fine on it.  Just waiting for it to be delivered :)02:22
Centaur5Thanks holycow for all the info02:22
rylasasinoh ok02:22
holycowCentaur5, no worries02:22
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blindholycow: oh, maybe i used cxoffice02:22
holycowblind, of course you did02:22
holycow:)02:22
zircxI do run crossover which allows me to use the MS Office suite, that is somewhat of an advantage, especially when it comes to format and keeping the format between those documents, something that Open Office doesn't do02:23
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holycowzircx, depends on your workload02:23
holycowin general if you are storing your documents in an editable format in ms office02:23
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holycowthats just bad bad bad in so many ways its hard to describe02:23
Centaur5simpla: I would imagine that it will all work fine unless Acer put a broadcom wireless card in there.  Since it is a core duo they probably used the centrino 3945 wireless.02:23
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dewdudeis there anything special you have to do to get the menu on the server ISO that lets you choose LAMP install...because i know it's supposed to let you choose several options...but whenever i stick my CD in, after boot: pops up and hit enter..it goes right into standard install02:24
holycowif you haven't managed to convert to openoffice then okay, but its strongly urged to convert all docs to open office when you can ... that is a trully open and documented standard02:24
holycowand all formatting will be kept ... open office docs don't renumber them selves for example >_>02:24
holycowhehe02:24
simplaCentaur5, its spose to be in intel pro wireless02:24
TheMoebiusI just installed edgy on my system and I have two video cards - both nvidia, but it only put one of them in xorg.conf. How can I get the PCI address of the other?02:24
Centaur5simpla: Is it the travel mate?02:24
Bird[OnLinux] What command do I use to install a file I just downloaded?02:25
simplaCentaur5, yep02:25
blindTheMoebius: lspci02:25
holycowTheMoebius, want my xorg.conf to check?02:25
Dr_willisTheMafia,  lspci has that option02:25
CaptainMorganthink I found a bug... I was trying different themes and I selected Resilience, now I can't open them selector anymore02:25
CaptainMorganhelp?02:25
avagantOk...whew I think I got everything.02:25
TheMoebiusholycow: yeah, do you have multiple vid cards?02:25
Centaur5simpla: Err, I hate when Acer doesn't have the exact model # on their site.02:25
CaptainMorganit opens for a split second then lcloses02:25
holycowoh shit ... TheMoebius i didn't read properly02:25
holycow\i have one dual02:26
blindholycow :O02:26
simplaCentaur5, lol yeah, i noticed that their site don't quite work with firefox either..  I think on their site its under a 561002:26
holycow*eep* indeed, right i donno, sorry mate, that indeed is a tricky one02:26
zircxholycow; in the corporate world and enviroment, the majority of companies are using MS Applications, this is where linux use to faulter, because they didn't have anything that could compare, sure Openoffice is getting better, and I do use it all the time, but still, when you've got to take important documents which are in MS Office format it does become an issue02:26
gnomefreakholycow: again please watch your language02:26
holycowactually zircx your half right02:26
zircxit wouldn't be an issue if the majority of people out there were using Open office to start out with..02:26
Centaur5simpla: All I use is firefox and I go to their site every week.02:26
holycowwe are converting 600 users to open office02:26
blindTheMoebius: use lspci02:26
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holycowits as easy as pie if you have th eproper research and planning in place02:26
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dewdudezircx, that'd make life easier, sadly MS OFfice was there first.02:26
dewdudeand lots of organizations and people are leary when they hear the word "open"02:27
simplaCentaur5, oh ok.  I was having troubles with their site using firefox.  Its all I use aswell.  Must be just me02:27
holycowthe side effect is that it streamlines and organizes your communication strategies and workflows02:27
holycowits surprisingly easy for us to tell all vendors and customers how to send us data and in what format02:27
zircxdewdude , yes that's unfortunately the reality at the moment..02:27
CaptainMorganlogging off, brb02:27
Centaur5simpla: What does it do or does it just not show certain things?02:27
holycow.doc IS NOT accepted here ... or wont be after we are done.02:27
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gnomefreakholycow: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that and keep this channel for support02:27
Bird[OnLinux] How do I change my default movie player from totem media player to something else?02:27
jribubotu: tell Bird[OnLinux]  about defaultapp02:28
holycowgnomefreak, if you are going to warn me, try spreading the love fairly and warn everyone02:28
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holycowdanke02:28
holycowso who else needs ubuntu help?02:28
ryan_how do i install/enable 3d acceleration02:28
holycowryan_, depends on what vid card you have?02:28
holycow!ati02:28
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:28
zircxyes, i concur, spread the love evenly02:28
holycow!nvidia02:28
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keegan_How long does it take you guys normally to encode video?02:28
dewdudeyeah...why won't the menu pop up on the server install CD so i can install a LAMP server...it just jumps right to install after pressing enter at the boot: prompt02:28
Bird[OnLinux] jrib nothing happened what you typed that in.02:28
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collier_Excuse me, I install CALC threw Synaptic Now how do I open it???????/02:28
holycowkeegan_, dependson the size of the file mostly02:28
ellioTbman, 531megs to install KDE if i am already running ubuntu w/gnome?02:28
blindkeegan_: depends on the size and your processor speed02:29
simplaCentaur5, i went to their build your own page, but the button on it doesnt work02:29
holycowand the kidn of hardware you have to throw at it02:29
Bird[OnLinux] jrib nothing happened when you typed that in.02:29
gnomefreakcollier_: OO.o calc?02:29
jrib!defaultapp > Bird[OnLinux] 02:29
collier_An Advanced calculator and mathematical tool02:29
jribBird[OnLinux] : did you get a private message now?02:29
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AngelShine@blind: I just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' like you said, it asked me a lot of questions which I am not sure of the answer... but the final outcome is very similar to my old conf file, I'll try reloading the X now... wish me luck :-)02:29
keegan_I'm in a P3 866 and its about 700MBs :(02:29
collier_Its under synaptic02:29
collier_how do  I open it?02:29
avagantOk guys as soon as this is done, I'm totally getting fluxbox02:29
isaeWhat licenses do I agree to when I install an Ubuntu distro?02:29
holycowellioTb, indeed, kde is not just a few small files.  it is a suite of software strung together to define the entire desktop experience02:29
holycowits really quite decent02:29
blindAngelShine: good luck :D02:29
jribcollier_: try what I suggested before with that other program02:29
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avagantIf fluxbox is real light weight that's all that matters.02:29
gnomefreakcollier_: it should be in your acssories menu02:29
collier_What did u suggest?02:29
Bird[OnLinux] jrib I still didnt get one.02:29
gnomefreakonly spelled right02:29
jrib!defaultapp02:30
ryanakcajrib: another imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)02:30
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"02:30
blindfluxbox is super lightweight02:30
Centaur5simpla: Oh, I've never tried to customize one on their site.02:30
keegan_avagant: I would rather have XFCE fluxbox is too minilistic for me02:30
zircxkeegan_ , depending on the video if you're talking about taking footage from a digital camera and then encrypting it into a avi format as well as editing and cutting, I would say 1-2 hours to get 45minutes worth of video footage02:30
jribBird[OnLinux] : see above from ubotu ^02:30
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isaeWhat licenses do I agree to when I install an Ubuntu distro?02:30
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collier_gnomefreak: its not under accessiores02:30
Bird[OnLinux] jrib ok thank you anyway.02:30
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simplaCentaur5, yeah ah I tried it hoping I could build my own laptop lol02:30
gnomefreakisae: GPL02:30
avagantkeegan_: That's how I like it.02:30
TheMoebiusok my other vid card has the entry 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900XT]  (rev al1) when i do lspci so does that mean the line in my xorg.conf will be BusID "PCI:01:00.0"? The other PCI card has BusID "PCI:0:14:0"...02:30
blindisae: you should have read :D02:30
jribBird[OnLinux] : ?? ubotu told you above02:30
ryanakcaisae: GNU Public License, but that's the same for all linux distros02:30
isaegnomefreak: Only?02:30
gnomefreakno02:30
isaeI know02:30
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Bird[OnLinux] jrib I just got message.02:30
avagantkeegan_: As long as it doesn't take up a billion hd.02:30
ellioTbholy, wow, that is so big, trying to remember if i liked kde when i had kbuntu installed for 20 mins02:30
jribBird[OnLinux] : oh ok02:30
keegan_I am taking an .avi video and converting it an SVCD format02:30
ellioTberr holycow02:30
CaptainMorganfolks.. I changed my theme to Resilience which is a horrible and now I can't change it back..02:31
avagantI have to reinstall konsole and amarok though. Boo.02:31
jribcollier_: type 'dpkg -L PACKAGE| grep bin'  that should help02:31
CaptainMorganhow do I revert? Im in KDE now cuz of this.. GNOME doesn't start because of the applied thmee02:31
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blindkeegan_: how big is the avi? whats your processor speed?02:31
holycowisae, no licence.  all the software is independently licenced under various open source licences, mostly gpl02:31
Centaur5simpla: Well I'm looking at the specs and I think the intel video chipset might take a little work to get working at it's full potential but it is possible.02:31
jribcollier_: that command will tell you what files got installed to bin folders (likely commands you can run)02:31
keegan_P3 866 and about 700MBs02:31
isaeholycow: Mostly?02:31
blindkeegan_: it's gonna take a while.02:31
isaeAre the rest gpl-like?02:31
jribryanakca: I don't know, haven't used it that extensively02:31
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holycowisae, free software llicences basically means you need to agree to nothing except the author gives you true consumer rights, and you agree to let the author keep his copyright to the work02:31
ryanakcajrib: kk02:31
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keegan_I started at 12 and nows its 5:31 its at 29%02:31
gnomefreakisae: they are free licenses might not just be GPL02:32
isaeholycow: I know02:32
simplaCentaur5, oh, i got the model that has a Nvidia 7300 256Mb card.  So shouldn't have any problems there, as using Nvidia 4600 on my desktop with ubuntu and its working fine.02:32
holycowisae, mostly.  gpl, lgpl, bsd, tons of other ones02:32
isaeholycow: I know02:32
collier_jrib: no it didnt.02:32
holycowthen why ask?02:32
CaptainMorgancan I access Gnome's themes from within KDE and manually switch it back?02:32
gnomefreak!license02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about license - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
holycowCaptainMorgan, no02:32
ellioTbcan't decide whether to install KDE or not02:32
gnomefreakack02:32
simplaCentaur5, I was mainly wondering about the wireless, bluetooth, and the inbuilt camera.02:32
jribcollier_: what was the output?02:32
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blindkeegan_: yeah. i've got a 3ghz and it would take ME a while to convert a 700mb video02:32
w30isae, it depends on what you do with it, distribution comes under GPL and some repos contain propritary software that has click throughs on install,like Nvidia drivers02:32
collier_jrib: Its to long to paste02:32
ellioTbif i decide to keep kde, can i uninstall gnome from ubuntu?02:32
ellioTbi have a small HD02:32
holycowellioTb, sure02:32
jribcollier_: paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:32
CaptainMorganholycow: what do I do? Gnome seems to freeze when logging in... appears the theme is corrupted or corrupted Gnome02:33
keegan_I was reading the Flash 9 Blog, anyone got information on when the beta is coming out?02:33
avagantellioTb: kde is fun huh?02:33
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holycowellioTb, you will need to pick a core gnome library, uninstall that and it will pull out all the other gnome apps with it02:33
AngelShine@blind: had to bring back my backup again... this time I read the error message, something about my X and my NVidia driver not having the same version ((????))) (I am trying to install the video driver, have a NVidia GeForce 2)02:33
gnomefreakisae: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing02:33
avagantellioTb: I just don't think i have the hd for it.02:33
zircxkeegan_ , what are type of file are you encoding from and too? vob to avi?02:33
avagantfor more than one.02:33
avagantbrb02:33
w30isae, you don't need a license to just use it for non comercial use02:33
blind!nvidia > AngelShine02:33
der0bcaptainmorgan: when I had that prob, I just removed (moved to a safe place) the .gtk* files in my home dir02:33
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ellioTbavagant, yeah, just wondering if its gonna be too slow on this comp02:33
Centaur5simpla: pro wireless 3945 works great, bluetooth should be quite standard and work fine, cameras I hear can be a little tricky depending on who made it.02:33
collier_jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25610/02:33
zircxkeegan_ , and what software are you using to encode?02:33
avagantit made me lag big time.02:33
blindAngelShine: read what ubotu sent you02:33
keegan_zircx: .avi to SVCD mpeg and I am using Avidemux02:33
holycowCaptainMorgan, delete the theme from  your system.  you need to google where gnome themes are stored, then do ctrl/alt/f1, log in to cli, delete theme, then restart gdm with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:33
isaew30, gnomefreak Thaks a lot dudes.02:33
holycowthat should do it02:33
zircxah okies..02:34
Centaur5simpla: I didn't get the camera on mine but somebody that did still hasn't gotten it to work.02:34
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jribcollier_: dpkg -L PACKAGE_NAME | grep bin02:34
AngelShinesure will do, I'm not sure if it's not one of the pages I was reading about it when the whole 'my X is not starting' began =(02:34
zircxkeegan_ , does it encode vob to avi?02:34
holycoww30, non commercial? you don't need a licence to use it for commercial stuff either02:34
zircxI haven't tried Avidemux02:34
ellioTbwhats the name of the instant messenger APP in kde?02:34
keegan_I don't know...02:34
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holycowmost of the free software licences have no restrictions whatsoever on whether or not its commercial or non commercial use02:35
blindellioTb: kopete02:35
jribellioTb: kopete?02:35
collier_jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25611/02:35
zircxI'll have to have a look into it02:35
ellioTbthere we go, anyone know if it runs in gnome02:35
holycowkaim?02:35
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holycowhehehe j/k :)02:35
blindjrib: you owe me a soda02:35
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simplaCentaur5, ah ok.  Its an Acer OrbiCam 1.3 ..  I am assuming it will all work as the guy on a forum said he had no problems, didn't mention any problems with the camera, so assuming it will be ok.  I guess I will find out in the next day or 2 when it arrives and I install ubuntu on it :)02:35
TheMoebiuscan anyone help me find out what the BusID is for my AGP vid card?02:35
jribcollier_: replace PACKAGE_NAME with the actual package name :P02:35
keegan_Is VOB a DVD format?02:35
collier_o02:35
collier_lol02:35
zircxkeegan, yes02:35
keegan_Then yes I believe it does02:35
segfaultellioTb, yes kde apps will run in gnome and gnome apps will run in kde02:35
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Dr_willisellioTb,  and I do so all the time. :P02:36
isaeDo I accept some terms of licenses if I use an instant messenger that uses MSN protocols?02:36
CaptainMorgander0b: you moved them all?02:36
holycowalso, all those apps will also run on other de's as long as you have the proper libraries in place :)02:36
Centaur5simpla: Yeah, when I first installed Dapper I had to do a lot of crazy things to get it to work but now it's all supported in the kernel so it should be smooth.  Good luck to ya.02:36
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LilRayRaycould someone help me with compiling a driver?02:36
zircxI thought i'd do a test, I plugged my video camera into a windows boxen that I have here, and recorded the contents of the camera, put it into avi format and it come out like shit..02:36
blindkeegan_: what's the name of that program again?02:36
collier_jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25612/ <-- I did that nothing happened02:36
zircxthen I used kino, and did exactly the same thing and it come out perfect..02:36
keegan_Avidemux02:36
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CaptainMorganI have three: .gtk_qt_engine_rc    .gtkrc-1.2=gnome2   and .gtkrc-2.002:37
AngelShine@blind: the page says something about 3 conditions having to be met, and I'm not sure I my card meets all of those (specifically this one: 'You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6".')02:37
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blindcollier_: you're got a / on the tail of that02:37
Centaur5simpla: I installed it 3 months before it officially came out as well, just so you understand it wasn't finished.  :)02:37
holycowzircx, you probably didn't check the compression stuff on win :) but oh well hehe02:37
gnomefreakisae: yes everything you use has a license in some way shape or form IM clients maybe the servers license02:37
mike8901/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug does anyone know how to fix that error?02:37
jribcollier_: ah, I just read the description "Description: An advanced calculator and mathematical tool for Emacs."  Do you use emacs?  What are you looking for exactly?02:37
der0bcaptainmorgan: there was only 2 .gtk_qt_engine_rc & .gtkrc-2.002:37
mike8901am I missing some packages?02:37
CaptainMorgander0b: bare with me, that worked??02:37
LilRayRaywhen i try to compile the driver it doesnt recognize the "make" command02:37
der0bworked for me yes, captainmorgan02:37
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simplaCentaur5, yeah thanks.  Just wish it would hurry up and arrive lol.. I tried Edgy on my old laptop (Screen busted, and it worked fine, but is an old laptop without half the stuff in the new one.  But I really could notice the speed increase between dapper and edgy02:37
collier_jrib: Oh I dont think I have emacs02:37
mike8901is lQtXML from a development library that I'm missing?02:38
w30holycow, I was thinking along the lines of putting Ubuntu stuff in something you sold, if so you need to offer a GPL License. I can't offer any lawyer type advice.02:38
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jribcollier_: good. :)02:38
simplaCentaur5, yeah, the beta version, always fun to tinker02:38
ellioTbxfce seems exactly like gnome to me, now i can't remember what KDE was like, lol02:38
holycoww30, you can sell gpl stuff02:38
jribcollier_: do you just want a regular calculator?02:38
holycowits done all the time02:38
zircxholycow, well I was only working with the default moviemaker, the options are somewhat limited, and I even went with an option that overrode the default option, going with quality output it was still crap..02:38
LilRayRayanyone here that can help me?02:38
jrib!helpme02:38
Centaur5I'm probably going to put the edgy beta on in a few days when they freeze the kernel.02:38
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:38
holycowgpl simply demands you do certain things with respect to the gpld components when you do that, its in the licence it self *nod*02:38
collier_jrib: no02:38
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holycowzircx, *nod*02:38
jribblind: yes, I do owe you a soda02:39
der0bcaptainmorgan: I believe it has something to do with attemting to apply QT settings to Gnome apps.02:39
w30holycow, right. You just can't use it and sell it under your own license02:39
jribcollier_: what are you looking for?02:39
LilRayRaynayone here willing to help me compile a driver02:39
simplaCentaur5, would you know much about development with ubuntu?  Im only new to it, but was wondering about the source packages you download.  Was wondering if you download a source package, tinker with the code, and then build/compile it, does that make a binary in a new deb package?02:39
mike8901/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug does anyone know how to fix that error?02:39
blindjrib: that was way late :P02:39
AngelShine@blind: the page says something about 3 conditions having to be met, and I'm not sure I my card meets all of those (specifically this one: 'You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6".') --- what I remember from my card: NVidia GeForce 2 MX, 32 or 16 MB02:39
isaeOf course one can sell GPL-licensed stuff. That's what it is about.02:39
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zircxok, i think it's time to move my stuff over to my server, and download ubuntu and give it the test run02:39
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collier_jrib: an algebra calculator02:39
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blindAngelShine: hm. im not sure, then.02:39
segfaultLilRayRay, ask ur question and maybe someone will help u02:39
jribblind: yep, long queue up there02:39
simplaCentaur5, yeah I have been wanting to put the edgy one on, but being putting it off till I get my new laptop.02:39
zircxslackware's fine, but I want a desktop I don't have to work hard on..02:39
mike8901/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug <-------------------------- what does this error mean?02:39
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keegan_Ubuntu is an easy setup02:40
w30holycow, maybe a SCO license??02:40
holycowlol02:40
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holycowfunny :)02:40
jribcollier_: try scilab or octave02:40
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LilRayRayI asked twice sooo: How do you compile drivers.  Im following some instructions with a "make" command and it is an "unknown" command.02:40
Centaur5simpla: If you install a program from source it should replace the old version if I understood your question correctly.02:40
jribubotu: tell LilRayRay about compiling02:40
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segfaultLilRayRay, u need build essentials pkg02:40
AngelShine@blind: k, thanks anyways, I'll keep looking for tutorials on this.... :-)02:41
nexsa1wooohoooo02:41
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nexsa1got source running on Ubuntu!02:41
LilRayRayI told it to install that, but it gave me an error02:41
sagarpin edgy how can i get rid of the printer icon in the notification area??02:41
nexsa1yaya02:41
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amicrawlehow doi download from irc ?02:41
nexsa1thanks Dr.Willis, got cedega running02:41
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ellioTbfor you KDE guys, what do you like about KDE over gnome of xfce02:41
ellioTbor is this the wrong room for that ?02:41
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CaptainMorgander0b, worked!02:41
blindellioTb: god no don't ask that02:41
CaptainMorganwow02:41
zircxI've never known any program to replace an older version of the exact program, normally you need to either un-install the older version or upgrade to the newer version02:41
rendoQuick question, does shockwave work with Ubuntu and Firefox?02:41
blindellioTb: you will start a war02:42
avagantellioTb: What about fluxbox?02:42
ellioTbblind, lol02:42
CaptainMorganfolks - stay away from the theme "Resilience"02:42
blindrendo: no02:42
ellioTbavagant, fluxbox is nice and fast, but i feel lost as hell, and i feel like i'll spend forever messing with it02:42
krazykitrendo: no02:42
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simplaCentaur5, oh ok.  Yeah I am planning to learn c, c++, and was going to just hack code to start with while learning.  Was going to use the source packages from apt, so it includes the ubuntu changes from debian..  but don't know if doing it through the packages for source, if when you build it it makes a new binary package, which I could keep for next time I re-install ubuntu02:42
rendoSo any games that are shockwave won't work, correct?02:42
jribellioTb: #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place02:42
ellioTbi have a really nice OS X look in gnome, i am in xfce right now02:42
ellioTbjrib, thanx02:42
avagantellioTb: Don't say that, I was just going to download it.02:42
LilRayRaycan someone pm me, it might be easier to help02:42
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blindI can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux.02:42
keegan_Does anyone here have experience with LMMS?02:42
krazykitrendo: right.  shockwave not working = nothing shockwave will work02:42
rendoSo I should backhand my wife for making me get up to try and fix something that doesn't work to begin with? :)02:43
ellioTbavagant, check it out, it looks really cool and is SUPER fast02:43
rendoWill do. :b02:43
ellioTbavagant, i am just too ADD to mess with it to make it just like i want it02:43
avagantWIll all my programs go?02:43
jdrakeIs there a way to remove the restricted modules without removing the kernel itself?02:43
ellioTbavagant, the ones i tried worked perfectly02:43
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avagantWill my programs that are on now transfer over?02:44
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blindavagant: they won't transfer over.02:44
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ellioTbavagant, yeah, the menu there will have all the same stuff as in gnome02:44
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blindavagant: they're installed, they're not going anywhere.02:44
ellioTbavagant, what do you mean by transfer over02:44
simplaanyhow i am off to work.  bye all.  thanks Centaur502:44
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Centaur5simpla: Oh, I understand your question now.  I wish programming was something enjoyable to me but I never took more than one C+ class.  You'll have to do something after compiling it to make it a binary for later on but I don't know anymore than that.  Sorry02:44
nexsa1if Company of Heroes works, i'm gonna try to kiss my own feet02:44
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Centaur5simpla: Okay, have fun.  I'm going to go home from work and eat.  :)02:45
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simplaCentaur5, oh ok, yeah.  I will look more into it tonight when I get home.02:45
keegan_Is ellioTb uninstalling KDE still?02:45
simplaCentaur5, lol yep will do.  anyhow cya02:45
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zircxaight, i'm out02:45
ellioTbkeegan_, i haven't installed it yet02:45
Centaur5simpla: bye02:45
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slipstream3dhello02:45
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rendoWhat's that other thing, not Automatix, the other script thing for installing junk?02:45
slipstream3dAnyone wanna help out a doofus that just upgraded to Edgy and lost all network connectivity :D02:46
ellioTbkeegan_, i want to install it, just nervous about taking up half a gig and then hating it02:46
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keegan_ellioTb: If you don't like KDE when you install just go into the package manager and take it off, simple as that02:46
wickedpuppy!edgy02:46
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:46
avagantellioTb: That's what I just did. Haha02:46
rendon/m easyubuntu :o02:46
myesterioushi02:46
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slipstream3dahhh thanks02:46
CaptainMorganis DDD compatible with Gnome?02:46
ellioTbkeegan_, thanx02:46
CaptainMorganlol02:46
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myesteriousCan i move /home/MyUser to another partition without reinstall Ubuntu ?02:47
CaptainMorganoops.. lol was not meant to be here..02:47
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ellioTbavagant, check out that fluxbox, if you are into that real hackery simple look, then its for you02:47
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derekjwwhello02:47
collier_How do I CD root?02:47
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jribcollier_: what does that mean?02:47
derekjwwuse the sudo command02:47
skrollIf I am using Evolution, and I just install spamassassin from the repos, will evolution automatically use it?02:48
collier_cd to root02:48
Abst!sudo02:48
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:48
collier_like cd Destop02:48
derekjwwlike: sudo cd /root02:48
collier_Desktop02:48
jribcollier_: just: cd /root02:48
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keegan_I used fluxbox a couple of times but not enough to learn how to make it look all fancy and stuff02:48
collier_jrib: ok thanks jrib forgot the /02:48
blindI can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux.02:48
ellioTbi better plug this thing into the ethernet, downloading KDE over wireless might be kinda slow02:48
derekjwwyou won't have privelages to go into that file though02:48
blindderekjww: you have permissions to look, but need sudo to do anything.02:49
derekjwwoh02:49
derekjwwok02:49
Abst!fluxbox02:49
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox02:49
slipstream3dsudo lets you use a single command, does su work in ubuntu? it keeps telling me my password is wrong.02:49
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jribubotu: tell slipstream3d about sudo02:50
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suff0katewhats the encoder i have to d/l to play mpeg files?02:50
blindI love fluxbox. I'd use it, if beryl worked with it.02:50
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jribslipstream3d: su works fine.  But you can't su to root because the password is blank.  Instead, use sudo -i for a root prompt02:50
blindsuff0kate: mplayer, vlc pick one.02:50
derekjwwwell could somebody help me network my computer to a microsoft computer02:50
markeibcan i write without real risks on ntfs partitions?02:50
w30myesterious, sure but make an entry in fstab so Ubuntu will know where it is. Remember that fstab needs tabs instead of spaces in certain places, if in doubt try a tab instead of a space and back up home and fstab first02:50
suff0katety02:50
blindmarkeib: nope.02:50
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czer323hey blind!  I had to erase and install the other day, and now i don't have that pimp wallpaper you were showing off the other day.  Ubuntu/gray with transparent 45 lines.  Think you could link me up?02:51
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blindczer323: you counted the lines? o_o02:51
myesteriousI have to use "ln" command to link new path ?02:51
czer323blind> 45 degree angle lines.02:51
ellioTbavagant, did kde run too slow for you?02:51
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derekjwwsomebody help me set up my network to microsoft computers02:51
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blindohhhhh lol02:51
blindczer323: http://blindcam.sytes.net/ubuntuwalltrans.png02:52
manterwhere can i find the ubuntu live cd?02:52
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jribmanter: ubuntu.com, click on download02:52
czer323blind> lol, seriously ;)  I'm not that compulsive.02:52
ellioTbwww.ubuntu.org/download02:52
manteri don see the live02:52
ellioTbit doesn't say :"live" anymore02:52
jribmanter: the live cd is now the both the live and the install02:52
ellioTbits just the desktop CD02:52
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ellioTbit does the same thing02:52
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keegan_ellioTb: I have a p3 866MHz, 512Mbs RAM, and a GeForce 5200 and I can run KDE with a little tiny bit a slowness02:52
blindczer323: yeah, there's more tthan 45 anyway02:52
manterah tnx02:52
rylasasinuh guys how do I get quicktime?02:52
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rylasasinI think thats what I need to veiw YTMND with sound02:53
jribubotu: tell rylasasin about quicktime02:53
gnomefreak!quicktime > rylasasin02:53
maxlfusionwonderWiah02:53
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maxlfusionwonderI can't beleive all my names were taken02:53
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jribgnomefreak: you owe blind a soda02:53
MaxLFThere.02:53
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ellioTbkeegan_, i think i am going to install kde just so i can check it out a little more02:53
MaxLFOKay, will the geforce asus 6600 gt 128m work in ubuntu?02:53
gnomefreak:)02:53
AscWhat's the method in bash used to let a program access a file of a different protocol?  Like if I want to cap http://whatever.txt02:53
derekjwwhow do I set up a network with microsoft computers02:53
ramonhi, i recently changed my apt sources to edgy (from dapper) and have only managed to upgrade a few packages. now many things fail with "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings ... are supported and installed on your system ... falling back to standard locale "C". Is there a particular package I should upgrade to fix this?02:53
Asc*cat02:54
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w30myesterious, no just copy home to a new partition and then in /etc/fstab make an entry for home. like "/dev/hda3       /home/mydirectory           ext3    defaults        0       0" without the quotes02:54
rylasasinI meant the quicktime pluggin02:54
czer323!samba02:54
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:54
jribAsc: some wget incovation02:54
derekjwwyes samba02:54
keegan_ellioTb: I love KDE, I just hate Kopete doesn't tell if people are using AIM with there Cellphone or not, thats all that is stopping me from using KDE lol02:54
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jribAsc: invocation even02:54
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keegan_GTK + QT apps looks good, but QT + GTK looks bleh02:54
nexsanback02:54
jribAsc: wget -O - http://foo  I think02:55
ellioTbkeegan_, lol, can't u just use gaim in KDE? i like the ichat style of kopete, but its so annoying how you can't organize the group names02:55
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keegan_I can't stand seeing how much GAIM stands out in KDE lol02:55
Ascjrib: I'm trying to access a remove volume via http without downloading it.02:55
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czer323i love me some gaim.02:55
detectiveinspektcan someone look at my ip address function02:55
keegan_I love GAIM too, but not in KDE lol02:55
nexsanyea, gaim is pretty cool02:56
nexsanusing it for ir02:56
nexsanirc*02:56
detectiveinspekttrying to program using sockets at memcpy is going funky02:56
detectiveinspekthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25614/02:56
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ellioTbkeegan_, gaim would be awsome if you could "skin" it a little more, or change the appearance better02:56
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cipher_nemoWhen I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:02:56
cipher_nemovo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.02:56
blindi hate gaim for irc.02:56
blindyick02:56
cipher_nemoIs it normal to not be able to open the x11 display in ubuntu via a root terminal?02:57
wickedpuppydetectiveinspekt, may i ask why you think we are c gurus ?02:57
CrescendoI don't like gaim for IRC either.02:57
ellioTbkeegan_, i just realized how annoying that is you can't see the cellphones02:57
keegan_ellioTb: Totally or if they made kopete better, hopefully KDE4 revamps kopete02:57
b-radHas anyone had an issue with Kubuntu Edgy and the resolution being set to something your monitor cannot deal with?  It starts to boot up, but then the resolution changes to something the monitor can't display and I'm stuck...  anyone got any ideas on what I could do?  I attempted to install the Nvidia drivers, but no such luck.02:57
CrescendoI use XChat.02:57
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ellioTbkeegan_, well i am gonna install KDE right now02:57
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keegan_ellioTb: I hate it too, I am always afraid to IM02:57
CaptainMorganwhere are X11 files located?02:57
Dr_willisI use xchat 2.4 :)02:57
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nexsantrying Konversation02:57
blindb-rad: you're gonna have to do some research and find out the correct horizsync and vertrefresh for your monitor, then edit your xorg.conf02:57
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  which X11 files? theres an X11 directory or 202:57
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nexsanthere i am in konversation02:58
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detectiveinspektyou can program02:58
blindI can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux. >_>02:58
ellioTbi guess i can just install all the diff WM02:58
nexsan2hey02:58
Dr_willisblind,  normally you run the 'vncserver' command.  (or at least I do)02:58
b-radblind: would that affect bootup as well, unless Kubuntu boots that darn quick heh02:58
ellioTbif i have the Kubuntu cd, can i just install kde off that02:58
nexsan2can't decide which one i like better02:58
CaptainMorganDr_willis, Im trying to install DDD, and at ./configure; make, it says: configure: error: The X11 library '-lX11' could not be found.02:58
wickedpuppydetectiveinspekt, sure i am not saying people here doesnt know .. well its your right to ask :P02:58
blindDr_willis: well vncserver runs Xvnc :]  but lemme try that and see what happens02:58
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  you need to isntall the X11 developer packages.02:58
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CaptainMorganDr_willis, eh? how do I do that?02:59
keegan_Does anyone know where I could a tutorial for LMMS? Its tricky02:59
Dr_willisblind,  check the logs in .vnc, also you may want to make a xstartup script in the dir to run a specific window manager and terminal.02:59
Stevodoes anyone know how to get wireless working in Ubuntu 6.06LTS?02:59
blindDr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25615/02:59
MaxLFWill an asus video card work in linux?02:59
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  fire up the package manager, serrch for the X11 dev pacakges.. click.. install.02:59
wickedpuppykeegan_, i would check for "X11 library" in synaptic02:59
ellioTbkeegan_, if i have the kubuntu cd, can i install kde off that, by adding it to sources.list or whatever02:59
AngelShine@blind: I found something, I do have to install the link you sent me, some GeForce need it, some don't, mine is one of those as I understood... so restarting my X again .... *crossing-fingers* :-)02:59
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ellioTbkeegan_, cause its a pretty big DL03:00
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keegan_ellioTb: You can just go to the synaptic and install it from there, cause if you install it from the CD its gunna take ever longer03:00
ramonhey, anyone know what package my locale en_ZA.UTF8 would be in, it says its not installed on my system and now some programs won't start?03:00
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matjanhi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?03:00
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keegan_ellioTb: Then you can just switch from Gnome or KDE through the GDM03:00
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ellioTbkeegan_, alright its downloading, probably will be done in 10 years03:01
Dr_willisblind,  could not open default font 'fixed'      <----------- this bug has been around for AGES03:01
AscThere's a bash function that allows a program to act on a file inside an archive.  Anybody know what it is?03:01
Dr_willisblind,  personally I would remove the vncserver you installed and install the vnc4server pacakge.03:01
blindDr_willis: there's also Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'03:01
Dr_willisblind,  its smarter and dont have that issue.03:01
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cipher_nemono one can help with my video output problem?03:01
wickedpuppyAsc, whats the extension of the archive ?03:01
blindAlright Dr_willis03:01
ellioTbkeegan_, by the way, if you hold your mouse over a person in Kopete, and there is no buddy icon, it means they are on the phone03:01
Dr_willisblind,  i  THINK the issue with that package is a bug/typo in the vncserver script looking for xf86config not xorg.conf03:01
CaptainMorganDr_willis,  that search came up empty03:02
keegan_ellioTb: Is that so...hm I might switch over...03:02
Dr_willisblind,  but i cant rember the details03:02
Ascwickedpuppy: .tar.gz03:02
detectiveinspektwhat the hell?03:02
Dr_willis!info vnc4server03:02
ubotuvnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB03:02
detectiveinspektgot any ideas?03:02
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ellioTbkeegan_, yeah, just figured it out, still a little bit annoying, but atleast you can tell b4 you message03:02
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wickedpuppyAsc, tar -tvf file.tar.gz03:02
PFAwhat would b ethe command to swapoff hda4?03:02
wickedpuppyAsc, btw look at tar --help03:02
detectiveinspektoh *hit IC03:03
krazykitPFA: swapoff hda403:03
blindDr_willis: I'm not sure how to remove tightvnc :\03:03
avagantWhat is it "sudo alternative-update -- whatever?03:03
wickedpuppyespecially the examples03:03
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krazykitPFA: rather, sudo swapoff /dev/hda403:03
PFAkrazykit, swapoff: hda4: No such file or directory03:03
Dr_willisblind,  apt-get remove whatever03:03
PFAkrazykit, swapoff: /dev/hda4/: No such file or directory03:03
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blindDr_willis: i didn't isntall it from the repos03:03
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krazykitPFA: you sure it's hda4 then?03:03
DaMaakushi everybody - i installed ubuntu and managed to mount two windows partitions, but i cant get samba to share them, can anybody help me with this?03:03
MaxLFis there a list of video cafds that work in ubuntu03:03
AngelShine@blind: It worked, I just saw the NVidia logo, thank you so much! :-)03:03
PFAkrazykit, yup03:03
wickedpuppyAsc, if that doesn't work try tar -tzvf ...03:03
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Ascwickedpuppy: Without extracting the archive.03:03
blindAngelShine: haha I didn't do anything :D03:04
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blindAngelShine: but I'm glad it worked.03:04
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cipher_nemoreposting, as I guess no one out of 860-some ppl can answer this yet :( ... When I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:03:04
cipher_nemovo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.03:04
wickedpuppythat won't extract .. look at tar --help ... -t is for listing -x is for extracting03:04
wickedpuppyAsc, that won't extract .. look at tar --help ... -t is for listing -x is for extracting03:04
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AngelShine@blind: turns out restarting wasn't doing it, had to sudo shutdown -r now to do the trick... don't know why though03:04
krazykitPFA: well... /dev/hda4 isn't a directory, so there shouldn't be the trailing /03:04
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PFAkrazykit, swapoff: /dev/hda4: No such file or directory03:04
AscI am.  Trying to look all those up.03:04
blindAngelShine: weird.03:04
PFAkrazykit, this is a liveCD btw does that make a difference03:05
Dr_willisyou sure its hda403:05
Dr_willisand not some other hda03:05
krazykitPFA: yes.03:05
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PFAkrazykit, sorry03:05
PFADr_willis, yup, i'm looking at it in Gparted as we speak03:05
matjanhi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?03:05
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krazykitPFA: i don't think the liveCD uses available swap...  you could check /etc/mtab and others03:05
cipher_nemo!flood03:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:05
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PFAkrazykit, well . . . it's got a padlock icon in GParted and won't let me change it. that's all i know.03:06
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Dr_willisIve seen live cd's that scan for swap partitons and use them if found.03:06
Dr_willishow do you remove a swap partiton from use... if its being used.....03:06
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tonyyarussoI have multiple installations accessing some partitions.  I need those partitions user-writable.  Is that a chmod thing or fstab thing?03:06
krazykitPFA: you could check /proc/meminfo to see if there is swap being used03:07
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PFAkrazykit, huh?03:07
markeibhow to autologin?03:07
Ascwickedpuppy: Well, it seems to list the files in an archive.  How would I open one?03:07
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CaptainMorganDr_willis,  that search came up empty, theres plenty of other X11 stuff, but i don't see dev specific03:07
wickedpuppytonyyarusso, its sudo thing if you are talking about premission problems to /etc and such that user does not have access to03:07
krazykitPFA: you're not familiar with the command line, are you :-P03:07
PFAkrazykit, not so much03:07
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krazykitPFA: can't tell you how to do it graphically, and i need to get homework done :-/03:08
tonyyarussowickedpuppy: I mean permanently.  They're things like /multimedia, where I keep my music.  Sudo shouldn't be necessary.03:08
wickedpuppyAsc, again i would look at the tar --help ... the command is tar -zxvf ... you are not looking at the help are you ? they have the examples ...03:08
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  im guessing its somthing like Xlib-dev or similer.. i just tend to click and install everything.03:08
PFAkrazykit, can you explain how to do it CLI-y? lol03:08
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jtholmesatiixp sound card not detected all modules loaded  ideas03:08
cipher_nemoWhen I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:03:08
cipher_nemovo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.03:08
cipher_nemoIs it normal to not be able to open the x11 display in ubuntu via a root terminal?03:08
krazykitPFA: open a terminal, `cat /proc/meminfo` and check for any swap03:08
wickedpuppytonyyarusso, i don't have a dir called multimedia ... so you created using root ? to change owner use chown , to change permission use chmod03:09
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Ascwickedpuppy: Unless you've got a different version of tar than me, -z is an invalid option03:09
Dr_willislibx11-dev - X11 client-side library (development headers)03:09
avagantHow do I get rid of a program I compiled myself?03:09
jtholmesI have read all the documents about sound03:09
PFAkrazykit, looks like it -- SwapTotal SwapFree SwapCached?03:09
wickedpuppyAsc, what did you type ? can paste the whole line here ?03:09
matjanhi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?03:09
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  apt-cache search X11 | grep dev03:09
CaptainMorganthanks Dr_willis found that one03:10
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CaptainMorganlibx11-dev.... so you install Every one of them?03:10
tonyyarussowickedpuppy: I created it during the installation - it's a separate partition.  Additionally, I have _multiple_ installations of Linux, all of which should have access to that partition.  chown/chmod I'm not sure would be the proper way to go, but I don't quite now how it applies in this particular case.03:10
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  im guessing thats the one you need.. I tend to just install,... and keep installing. :)03:10
krazykitPFA: those'd be the ones.  you could just try `sudo swapoff /dev/hdaX` replacing X with 1 through 403:10
CaptainMorganhahah03:10
wickedpuppytonyyarusso, man chmod and man chown03:10
Ascwickedpuppy: tar -tzvf tru*tar.gz Licence.txt03:10
wickedpuppyand permissions .. look for them in google ..03:10
AscAlthough... hm.03:11
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wickedpuppy Asc, again i would look at the tar --help ... the command is tar -zxvf ... you are not looking at the help are you ? they have the examples ...03:11
avagantHow do I get rid of something I compiled on my own?03:11
wickedpuppyits axvf03:11
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wickedpuppyzxvf03:11
PFAkrazykit, what would that accomplish? :/03:11
avagantI don't remember where all the files for it went.03:11
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wickedpuppynot tzvf03:11
krazykitPFA: it'd swapoff anything on those partitions, in case you're wrong about the swap partition or something.03:11
Dr_willisavagant,  sudo make uninstall   - IF you kept the source tree03:11
PFAkrazykit, nope, i'm looking at it in GParted right now03:12
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avagantsource tree?03:12
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avagantWell amarok has last.fm support so I figure it's pretty stupid to have last-exit.03:12
hsunda3Does anybody here run Ubuntu inside Vmware on a Windows XP host? I am doing so (and everything is great) but I am getting worried about the memory consumption. Any ideas?03:12
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Dr_willisavagant,  you compiled it from source... that directory03:12
Agrajaghsunda3: buy more ram03:12
avagantit says "no rule to uninstall"03:13
Dr_willishsunda3,  tell xp to quit slurping down the ram. :)03:13
hsunda3Agrajag: indeed.. that's on my agenda for Thanksgiving.03:13
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Dr_willisavagant,  now you know why package managment was invented.03:13
hsunda3Dr_willis: hmmm.... as far as I know, only Firefox takes up my ram on Windows XP. Otherwise I have no complaints.03:13
markeibcan i uninstall kaffeine without having to install all the kde desktop?03:13
Dr_willisavagant,  check the docs and makefile..  the guy may of not bothered.03:13
PFAkrazykit, omg i am stupid03:14
Dr_willishsunda3,  you allocate X amount of ram for the vmware thing.. and it uses it.. whats the problem?03:14
PFAkrazykit, i was trying to do the extended instead of logical partition!03:14
PFAkrazykit, thanks for all your help03:14
Dr_willisPFA,  i was wondering that...03:14
hsunda3Dr_willis: you are right .. I do set the upper limit on the RAM ... just that I am not running X on the Ubuntu ... not a complaint Dr_Willis :) ubuntu is great.. just curious .03:14
blindDr_willis: I've got it working, but still can't connect to it :\03:15
hsunda3Dr_willis: I am running LAMP on my UBuntu inside Vmware and it is just awesomely convenient ... nothing could be better..03:15
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viatorwhy run ubuntu in vmware?03:15
avagantDr_willis: What about "make clean"03:16
viatorid run xp in vmware its the only safe way03:16
tritiumavagant: nope03:16
hsunda3viator: don't have the patience to get it running given my laptop hardware03:16
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hsunda3viator: safe is a matter of perception, really.03:16
avagantSee I have the directory of files, but it's skill in bin03:16
viatoryeah ;)03:16
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hsunda3viator: I am safer running Windows, since I tend to play around less. With Ubuntu I tend to break it more often given how much you can play around with the kernel and so on :)03:16
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Dr_willisavagant,  gcc 101 - that cleans the source tree. :)03:17
hsunda3but inside of Vmware, I can do all kinds of stuff, knowing that a drastic mistake only means a new image .. nothing could be simpler :)03:17
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viatorsure same for xen etc03:17
Dr_willishsunda3,  im running windows under vmware in Ubuntu. Heh03:17
viatorwell kinda03:17
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avagantDr_willis: Will that get rid of the "bin" files too?03:18
hsunda3Dr_willis: I would have too ... but sometimes Windows just does the job for me .. primarily playing music from a couple of websites.03:18
Dr_willisavagant,  no idea.. it aint somthing i worry about..03:18
viatorhsunda3 im interested in what sites the music wont play for you03:18
avagantWell I guess it doesn't matter as long as last-fm is gone.03:18
viatorin linux03:18
hsunda3Dr_willis: also, I generally don't run X. So it just runs in the background. I SSH into my Ubuntu running inside the Vmware!03:18
Dr_willisavagant,  if it did - it would remov the bin files from the source tree directory.. NOT the system,03:19
raphaHelp! Ubuntu Server 6.06 always does a reboot right after GRUB ... doesn't even load Linux kernel... :(03:19
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viatorwhat are they?03:19
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hsunda3viator: http://musicindiaonline.com and http://raaga.com ..these are both sites that serve Indian music .. and use RealPlayer.03:19
Dr_willishsunda3,  ! blasphmy! you got it totally backwards!03:19
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Dr_willishsunda3,  ya could use that xming and have X apps on your windows desktop also :)03:19
blindDr_willis: any clue why it's running, I set a password, but I still can't connect?03:19
Dr_willisblind,  check the log files03:20
CaptainMorganDr_willis, now I know what you mean... 5th time Ive installed something different03:20
hsunda3Dr_willis: indeed, I have practically the entire Cygwin installed .. when I compile the kernel I do the make xconfig on Cygwin :)03:20
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blindDr_willis: I'm trying to connect from a different computer.03:20
Dr_willishsunda3,  i found xming just for the X stuff works nicer then Cygwin.03:20
blindoh wait. nevermind03:20
Dr_willisblind,  try connecting locally first. vncviewer localhost:1 or :2 or whatever03:20
markeibwhy can't i uninstall gaim without uninstalling gnome-desktop?03:20
hsunda3viator: ironically the website (http://musicindiaonline.com) even has instructions for playing it on Linux. But i couldn't figure it. Guess I didn't have codecs or something.03:21
tritiummarkeib: because of package dependencies03:21
Dr_willisblind,  also kill the vncserver with 'vncserver -kill :1' (or is it --kill)03:21
markeibok03:21
avagantDr_willis: Well it's still showing in bin.03:21
Dr_willisblind,  that kills it nicely03:21
avagantSo I guess I didn't do something right.03:21
ryanakcaI've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)03:21
tritiummarkeib: you can do it, but when you go to dist-upgrade to edgy, you'll likely want to reinstall ubuntu-desktop03:21
Dr_willisavagant,  make clean does NOT remove the binaries from the /bin as i said.. it removes the stuff from the source tree directory03:21
avagantoh03:21
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avagantso i have to go into bin and remove it myself?03:22
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hsunda3markeib: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package that lists the other packages. Therefore it is not required for a running system, but when upgrading to a newer release that *package* is required.03:22
avagantSee now I have more space, I knew it was kde.03:22
Dr_willisavagant,  thats what 'sudo make uninstall' would do. or check the docs.. the gjy may be doing somthing different03:22
Jimersonhello03:22
viatoryeah im playing it right now03:22
JimersonI have a question03:22
tritiumavagant: in the future, use checkinstall if you compile stuff from source.  Better to find ubuntu packages, though.03:22
viatorthat indain music is kinda funky03:22
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Dr_willisavagant,  gee. removing stuff - does normally give you more drive space. :)03:22
viatorin a good way03:22
avagantHehe03:22
bdragonmsldoes 6.10 use the latest nvidia drivers??03:22
tonyyarussoHow to define mount options for drives that are managed through hal?  For instance, I would like to have all USB flash drives mount with the sync option rather than the default of async, but of course such devices do not exist in fstab.03:22
mike-digiport-I tried installing squid with --enable-ssl, and on Make, I get the error03:23
markeibso hsunda that means that03:23
viatoron a side note there is a realplayer in the repos03:23
avagantI have 2 10gb hd's, and the main one was like 4.3gb from like 5.903:23
mike-digiport-cannot find openSSL headers03:23
markeibhey i think i understand03:23
viatorthe plf repos03:23
viatorbut03:23
blindDr_willis: this is weird O_o. I connected via HTTP, using the java applet. worked fine, tried connecting, it tells me it can't connect to the VNC server.03:23
avagantI might try that fluxbox though.03:23
viatorim using mplayer03:23
Dr_willisi got 10gb+ in just my wallpapers directory03:23
markeibthe package isn't anything it just has all these dependencies to be easy to use03:23
tritium!nvidia-glx edgy03:23
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8774+2.6.17.5-8 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB03:23
hsunda3viator: depends on what you are playing. Good to hear you could get it playing. A couple of my friends managed it too, but I prefer to use each operating system for what it does best.....03:23
blindbut don't the VNC server and http server both run off the same program?03:23
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Dr_willisblind,  how are you trying to connect?03:23
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Dr_willisblind,  the port #'s are different for one thing03:23
blindright now im on a separate computer03:23
viatortold it to use windows media player and it worked03:23
blindusing Real VNC03:23
hsunda3viator: Wow! that's interseting ..03:23
cipher_nemoroflol03:24
JimersonI am trying to configure my iBook's trackpad in the xorg.conf file, but I'm not sure which setting to modify under the synaptics touchpad input device.03:24
cipher_nemoI think viator has the wrong channel03:24
blindi also tried the java applet. it connected to the applet, but won't connect to the vnc03:24
Dr_willisblind,  what port# are you using with the java applet?03:24
cipher_nemoviator: wrong channel?03:24
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hsunda3cipher_nemo: no .. :) he is not.03:24
viatornope03:24
viatorot03:24
viatorlol03:24
blind5801 for the java, 5901 for VNC03:24
viatorkind of03:24
amonkeyi'm trying to install ubuntu and the livecd only detects my integrated graphics. how do i tell it to use my addon card?03:24
hsunda3cipher_nemo: he is just testing a website for me.. checking if he is able to stream songs from a website I couldn't earlier :)03:24
Dr_willisblind,  try vncserver ip#:103:24
cipher_nemoI'm seeing viator's comments... but don't see a link to anything else in the channel, lol03:24
Dr_willisnot 590103:25
tritiumamonkey: try disabling the onboard graphics in the BIOS03:25
cipher_nemohsunda3: ahhh03:25
viatoramonkey is it disabled in the bios03:25
blindwith the # sign?03:25
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amonkeytritium: i can't, i can select which has priority (start first) but i can't just drop it03:25
amonkeyviator: ditto03:25
hsunda3blind if I might interrupt, what are you having problems with?03:26
Dr_willisblind,  No.. use the ip# :)03:26
Dr_willisor name03:26
blindhsunda3: vnc03:26
JimersonAnyone familiar with modifying those trackpad settings?03:26
blindDr_willis: thought so, had to ask03:26
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JavaDeveloperHi, I have a question regarding Gnome startup environment, I put Java in PATH in .bashrc, somehow in Gnome, I run Eclipse by clicking an icon that runs Eclipse, it couldn't find Java by saying "'Java' is not in your current PATH"03:26
blindDr_willis: it timed out o.o03:26
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blindbut im connected via ssh right now03:26
retercan i upgrade from hoary to edgy eft?03:26
Dr_willisblind,  Hmm... im wonderin if windows isent messing with somthing.03:26
JavaDeveloperBut if I run it in shell, I could run it03:26
hsunda3blind what VNC server are you using?03:26
Dr_willisblind,  you got a desktop on the vncserver machine?03:26
tritiumreter: yes, but ask in #ubuntu+103:27
Dr_willisblind,  try vncserver localhost:103:27
hsunda3blind: the built in one or did you install one?03:27
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elizabethwhen i started up ubuntu it said that /dev/hda6 could not be found . . . all this crazy stuff about fsck. i just deleted that partition in a liveCD. what should i do so it doesn't try to mount it at startup?03:27
Dr_willisblind,  also do a ps - and see if vnc is really running03:27
blindAHH TOO MANY QUESTIONS03:27
blindrofl03:27
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, have you reloaded bash?03:27
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blindit is, Dr_willis i checked the log, it showed the HTTP request.03:27
blindplus it's in ps aux03:27
Jimersonhehe, lemme know when it slows down and I'll ask mine again later03:27
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blindhsunda3: installed vnc4server03:27
Dr_willisblind,  so try on the vnc machine the vncserver localhost:103:27
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: yes03:27
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kupesoftI want to fix the button that triggers the screen to shut off when I close up my laptop.  What is that button called?03:28
blindDr_willis: all i have right now via ssh is a cli03:28
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Dr_willisblind,  eww. :)03:28
viatoreleizabeth edit etc/fstab03:28
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, can we see the path line from .bashrc?03:28
blindDr_willis: im not quite sure what im doing :P03:28
viatorremove any refrence to it03:28
Dr_willisblind,  well the trick is - for most vncclients you dont tell it  5901 - you just tell it '1'03:28
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: sure03:28
blindDr_willis: i don't know ssh03:28
hsunda3blind: it might not be very easy to launch a vncserver using SSH :) .. the $DISPLAY will be all messed up ..03:28
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Dr_willisI run the vncserver all the time with ssh.03:29
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, when you type java in commandline what you get?03:29
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Dr_willisssh in, run vncserver -- I get a line like ------------>   New 'Audigy:1 (willis)' desktop is Audigy:103:29
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viatorPFA get that post?03:29
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/19049103:29
viatorheh03:29
hsunda3Dr_willis: do you forward your X through SSH?03:29
Dr_willisI can then go to the windows machine and point the vncviewer to "Audigy:1'03:29
mcquaidhello, anyone know about troubleshooting DriveReady SeekComplete Error type errors when dealing with cdrom/dvd drom drives?03:30
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: it shows my 1.4.2 JDK03:30
blindmeh, im going home. i'll figure this out there.03:30
Dr_willishsunda3,  hes on a windows box. :P  so i dont think hes doing that.03:30
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GekitsuuI may have missed the beginning of the conversation but instead of fowarding my x session I just use an ssh tunnel with vnc03:30
mcquaidI'm at my wits end trying to get this burner burning successfully again. it doesn't seem to be a linux problem as i make coasters in windows as well03:30
Dr_willisblind,  this is on a local lan? or are you doing it through the internet?03:30
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hsunda3Dr_willis: Ah ok ...03:31
mcquaidat first i thought the drive was dying (it reads discs fine just burns coasters even though it says burnt successfully)03:31
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: the story went like this, I installed jdk1.4.2_12 manually specifically for Opentab ERP cuz it doesn't work on jdk1.5.  Then I tried to redirect Java to 1.4.2 by using updating alternative.  However, on UbuntuGuide, it doesn't show me how to do that since all those are talking about how to download JDK1.503:31
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wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, echo $PATH03:31
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wickedpuppywhat you get?03:31
mcquaidso i ignored it for awhile assuming the burner was dying.  but i finally got a new dvd burner and i'm still making coasters03:31
wickedpuppyand echo $JAVA_HOME03:31
tritiumJavaDeveloper: there are ubuntu packages of SUN's java03:31
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/19049403:31
kitchemcquaid: maybe bad IDE controller03:32
mcquaidi thought maybe bad ram, i did memtest for 10 hours with no errors, i've tried 3 different ide cables03:32
tritium!java > JavaDeveloper03:32
JavaDevelopertritium: yeah but I lovely to download and install manually cuz I need to change JAVA_HOME to do some tests03:32
mcquaidkitche, ya i'm thinking that, hoping it isn't03:32
JavaDevelopertritium: *love03:32
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tritiumJavaDeveloper: you can change JAVA_HOME with environment variables03:33
mcquaidkitche, there is another drive on the same ide channel that gives me no issue03:33
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, it seems to be ok ... the path is in $PATH..03:33
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JavaDevelopertritium: changed and I even fixed update-alternatives manullay by redirecting the symlink in /etc/alternative/java, javaws and java_vm and completely ignore update-alternative03:33
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avagantSO IN ORDER to get fluxbox I just put "sudo apt-get install fluxbox?03:34
jribavagant: yes03:34
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: let me try to show you what eclipse says03:34
avagantSweet03:34
wickedpuppyk03:34
avagantand everything i had before will still be here huh?03:34
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tritiumJavaDeveloper: doesn't sound right...03:34
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: sorry, just wait a bit cuz I am downloading callisto plugins :P03:34
viatoravagant yes03:34
wickedpuppybtw you are running eclipse on the same shell right ?03:34
viatorand you can choose which de you want to use03:34
LookTJHi people03:34
viatorfrom gdm03:34
LookTJwhat's up y'all03:35
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Jimerson(going to ask my question again.. :p)03:35
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LookTJ!repeat03:35
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience03:35
LookTJ> jimerson03:35
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: what do you mean by same shell?  before I modified the symlink, I didn't have problem running eclipse by clicking on the 'shortcut icon' on desktop that I created but not after03:35
wickedpuppywhat symlink ?03:35
JimersonI am trying to get the touchpad on my ibook working by modifying the synaptics touchpad section of xorg.conf, yet I don't know which setting controls the cursor speed. Anyone able to help?03:35
reter\what is the page to upgrade to dapper drake?03:35
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: /etc/alternative/java, /etc/alternative/javaws and /etc/alternative/java_vm03:36
jribubotu: tell reter about upgrade03:36
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tritiumJavaDeveloper: you're saying that running sudo update-alternatives didn't work?03:36
JimersonI mean, the touchpad works, it just goes very slow.03:36
suff0kateIs there a battle.net bot for ubuntu?03:36
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, sometimes i have 3 bash terminals opened in gnome ... if i re load bash in one , i need to re load all so the they are all getting the latest bashrc .. btw you are NOT andy leung ... are you ?03:36
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JavaDevelopertritium: thanks for your link, but I thought I've already mentioned I need JDK 1.4, not 1.503:37
viatorfunny my touchpad is REALLY slow under windows03:37
viatorunder ubuntu uts fast but not too fast03:37
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: yes I am03:37
wickedpuppyno kid ... i thought its the singer ...03:37
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wickedpuppyone of the heavenly kings03:37
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JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: lol...anyway I am just a small potatoe...I even restart my computer to load bash for my gnome but whenever I run that shortcut icon that I make for eclipse, it gave me error message03:38
suff0katehow do u mask ur ip with gaim?03:38
terrIs there an "educational" version of ubuntu suitable for junior high?03:38
kitchesuff0kate do you mean though tor or just masking?03:39
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, just type bash and it will reload ...03:39
LookTJJimerson: use usb mouse instead to save the trouble03:39
CaptainMorganfolks, i successfully installed DDD, however I would like to add it to the App/Programming Menu, how do I do this?03:39
viatorunder ubuntu go under system >prefrences> mouse03:39
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suff0katesomething to cover up my ip when i am in a irc channel like this one03:39
jribterr: I'm not sure what level edubuntu is targeted at, but are you aware of it?03:39
viatoryou can increase the speed03:39
CaptainMorganit's exec is in /usr/local/bin03:39
viatorof your touchpad there03:39
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, you have trouble loading eclipse or trouble compiling or running programs after loading eclipse ?03:39
JimersonI have but it is not always convenient as when I am in a car or in class :\03:39
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JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/19050003:40
kitchesuff0kate: use tor or donate to freenode to get a cloak03:40
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: trouble loading it from gnome but not in terminal03:40
suff0katek03:40
suff0katety03:40
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svidhey all, I need help setting up an svid-out port on my laptop03:40
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, can i trouble you to right click on the icon on the desktop and go to properties ? look at the command03:40
anuvis001hi03:41
ryanakcaI've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)03:41
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: not a problem, cuz I make it up and it did work before I replaced the symlink for alternative03:41
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JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/19050103:41
anuvis001what is the best target wifi(pci) for ubuntu???03:41
JavaDeveloperanuvis001: I have used Linksys's card and they are pretty good03:41
suff0kateokay i downloaded tor now what do i do to use it?03:42
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, the command is the same as you run from the terminal ?03:42
JavaDeveloperanuvis001: even the USB one is very easy to install03:42
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: yes03:42
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terrjrib no - I wasn't aware of it.03:42
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raphaWhat JERK decided to remove isapnptools from the ubuntu repos?03:42
terrjrib - I'm a developer and am happy with Debian (so far).03:42
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terrjrib - I'm doing this for a friend who runs a high school lab03:43
Mortuisquick noob question: How do I tell how much RAM this computer has?03:43
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pharglerapha: i did it03:43
hsunda3Mortuis: cat /etc/meminfo03:43
anuvis001and the d-link ?03:43
raphaphargle: sorry for the jerk then, but... Why?03:43
terrMortuis:  check the boot info - dmesg03:43
pharglei didnt really03:43
raphaAh.03:43
sorush20Seveas: will you be updating that source-o-matic ?03:43
phargle:)03:43
rapha:)03:43
anuvis001is good or not??03:43
terrMortuis:  top also tells you.03:44
hsunda3yes of course! top as well..03:44
crimsunrapha: it was removed on July 28, 2005 from the Debian unstable repository, and when Ubuntu synced, the source package was also removed.03:44
Mortuishsunda3: no such file :-(03:44
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kitchesuff0kate: read this http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor03:44
jribterr: I see.  Well edubuntu.org is all I know about it.  But all the *buntu's are the same thing except a different meta-package to choose the default apps.  So your friend can always add whatever apps he feels would be useful through apt03:44
hsunda3Mortuis: sorry: cat /proc/meminfo03:44
Mortuisbut top worked, I wanted to see if this memory I installed was good.03:44
crimsunrapha: see http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/isapnptools/news/20050728T183210Z.html03:45
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raphacrimsun: ah okay, thanks. I'll go and blame Debian then :)03:45
terrMortuis:  dmesg is a command...03:45
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snook353apt-get upgraded ephiphany-browser, and it crashes!!03:45
Mortuiscat /proc/meminfo   worked as well03:45
hsunda3terr: I think he was talking about my incorrect /etc/meminfo (it should be /proc/meminfo)03:45
Mortuisthanks again03:45
raphacrimsun: too bad, no reason given...03:45
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hsunda3Mortuis: :)03:45
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terrhsunda3:  ok - no worries03:45
crimsunrapha: sure there is, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=31835903:45
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noumaanmy keyboards shift keys not working for unknown reasons. i want to know how could i assign the shift key role to some other key on my keyboard/03:46
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terrjrib: Thanks - I was lookin for the link at ubuntu and missed it.03:46
snook353i have breezy, and i don't want to get dapper, cuz it won't work with my laptop03:46
bruenigedgy...03:46
snook353the cursor doesn't change speed.  it goes really slow across the screen03:46
ryanakcanoumaan: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'... it'll give you the option somewhere along the way03:46
bdragonmslcould anyone help with getting my nvidia drivers installed?03:47
bruenig!nvidia03:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:47
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JavaDeveloperanuvis001: it's not that stable03:47
CaptainMorganfolks, i successfully installed DDD, however I would like to add it to the App/Programming Menu, how do I do this? it's exec is located in /usr/local/bin and at $bash: ddd is a command not found error03:47
raphacrimsun: that is bad news for me. Any idea how I could get an old ISA card working on the current Ubuntu kernel then?03:47
crimsunrapha: what type of isa card?03:47
raphacrimsun: NIC with BNC connector.03:47
terrjrib:  I'm blind.  I ignored the related projects.03:47
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Jimersonsnook353 I have the same  problem with my cursor03:47
crimsunrapha: is the driver loaded?03:48
bruenigCaptainMorgan, do you have alacarte?>03:48
snook353is edgy Really gonna be better than breezy and dapper?03:48
raphacrimsun: Works under OpenBSD afair... and used to work under Slackware.03:48
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, i can't figure out why eclipse is not getting the PATH03:48
snook353yeah, it was unmanagable for me, so i put breezy back on, jimerson03:48
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bruenigsnook353, in theory, else it wouldn't be released. But what is 'better' is subject to individual need and definition03:48
raphacrimsun: let me try to find that out03:48
suff0kateYou do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. WHY DOES IT SAY THAT 24/703:48
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TrendKi||hey guys, anyone can point me to a link for getting madwifi in the module-assistant?03:49
Jimersonsnook353 kind of computer are you running?03:49
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jribubotu: tell suff0kate about permissions03:49
snook353yeah.  i've got a five-year old laptop - toshiba sat 1407, i believe.  i'll check on the numbers03:49
kitchesuff0kate: where are you trying to save the file though03:49
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: it's okay, I will run it from shell then....thank you very much03:49
CaptainMorganah.. thanks bruenig03:49
snook353jimerson, 1405 - s17103:49
bruenigCaptainMorgan, lol, glad that one question spawned a solution...03:50
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snook353i want to upgrade, but its insane to use a mouse that slow wth dapper, jimerson03:50
Jimersonsnook353 I wonder what would happen if you copied the synaptic touchpad inputdevice settings and pasted them into xorg.conf in dapper03:50
hsunda3has anybody here used the rope programming language in Ubuntu?03:51
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Jimersonsnook353 I'm a real newbie at this so it is just an idea03:51
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snook353well, idk, but i'll try it!03:51
raphacrimsun: dmesg says it's a D-Link DE220 (it is)... but from reading the rest of dmesg and also the lsmod output I'd say there is no module loaded.03:51
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anuvis001thanks you  4<JavaDeveloper>03:51
noumaanryanakca,  For example, if you wish the Caps Lock key to behave as an additional     03:51
noumaan  Control key, you may enter "ctrl:nocaps"; if you would like to switch     03:51
noumaan  the Caps Lock and left Control keys, you may enter "ctrl:swapcaps".03:51
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noumaanryanakca,  how do i set it to use capslock as shift key/03:51
snook353have you done that, jimerson?03:51
Jimersonif you give me settings that breezy gives you I'll try them on my dapper03:51
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fergeranyone here use xubuntu?03:52
knixtechno03:52
Jimersonsnook353 no, I just installed linux for the first time ever yesterday.. and dapper it was03:52
knixtech;)03:52
snook353ok....i don't know where to find that stuff, jimerson03:52
tgelterI just updated to edgy and now I can't get booted...I think it's not loading dmraid right, anyone able to help?03:52
snook353Oh, that's great!  but too bad...jimerson03:52
Flanneltgelter: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support03:52
tgelterthanks03:52
knixtechferger, just ask your question03:52
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Flannelferger: people in #xubuntu use xubuntu, if you really need some xubuntu specific help03:52
crimsunrapha: lsmod |grep ^ne03:52
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knixtechferger, fur burgers?03:52
snook353jimerson, where would i find the input settings?  i'll do it if you can tell me03:53
fergerhaha no, but i get that all the time03:53
cipher_nemoHow do I copy all of one user's settings (and Firefox info) to another user account?03:53
knixtechha,  go to xubuntu03:53
fergerlike how doctor evil says father03:53
raphacrimsun: nope, nothing. Just "new_wlan" which belongs to one of the other two interfaces.03:53
Jimersonsnook353 the xorg.conf file is "sudo gedit //etc/x11/xorg.conf03:53
bruenigciper_nemo, copy over the ~/.mozilla directory03:53
snook353ok03:53
FlannelJimerson, snook353, gksudo not sudo03:53
crimsunrapha: sudo modprobe ne03:53
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snook353ok, thanks flannel03:53
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: and all the ~/ including . for other settings03:53
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Jimersonsnook353 let me make it more clear- in terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf"03:54
hsunda3is anybody familiar with the difference between -Y and -X on a SSH X Forward? I know one is *trusted* and the other is not, but that means what?03:54
FlannelJimerson, snook353, and no double //, and you'll probably want to put the command in quotes03:54
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: profiles in linux is a breeze :)03:54
Jimersonflannel snook353 oops03:54
bur[n] erJimerson: gksudo works better when it's a gui app03:54
snook353ok jimerson flannel03:54
Jimersonthanks guys03:54
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raphacrimsun: there we got another prob now. I'm running the system from the CD's rescue mode because the shipped kernel won't boot. So, naturally, no access to the drivers in the real /lib/modules :(03:54
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crimsunhsunda3: -Y is not subject to the X11 SECURITY extension controls03:54
bruenigis there any difference between gksudo and gksu03:54
Jimersonas I said it is only my second day :\03:55
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hsunda3crimsun: so anything I should know in particular to connect to my home machine from my laptop while on the road?03:55
noumaani am reconfiguring xserver xorg and i want to assign the shift key role to the capslock key how i do that.03:55
cipher_nemobur[n] er: a breeze, but only after I know them :) can you give me full paths of what to copy?  my user I want to copy is ciphernemo, and the user I want to add my settings to is mythtv, and I'm in a root terminal window now03:55
crimsunhsunda3: -X is preferred to -Y03:55
hsunda3crimsun: ah ok ..03:55
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noumaanshift:capslock03:55
crimsunrapha: so ne is loaded now? Can you ifup the interface?03:56
snook353flannel, jimerson, it says this:  (gedit:10394): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:03:56
snook353Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.03:56
bruenigwhen I do gksu nautilus and gksudo nautilus, at least graphically everything is the same03:56
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hsunda3bur[n] er: actually you can use gksu for any user, not just root (as longas you have the password for that user) ... it's similar to the way su and sudo work03:56
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: cp -a /home/ciphernemo /home/mythtv && sudo chown -R mythtv:mythtv /home/mythtv03:56
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bruenigsnook353, if it still launches don't worry about it, that warning is a bug that doesn't mean anything03:56
Jimersonsnook353 there is another way to get there without the terminal.. one moment and I will try and figure it out03:56
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w30    cipher_nemo maybe copy all the users .files to the new user and change the ownership and group to the new user? That would configure every yhing almost.03:56
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: that also sets the priveleges for mythtv to see cipher_nemo's files that you copied03:56
fergerall my desktop icons disappeared and when i right click on the desktop, the menu doesnt drop down anymore03:56
snook353ok, jimerson03:56
knewthow do i configure my partitions during the installer without using the "partition disks" option? this being because that doesn't know about them03:56
bur[n] erw30: that's what I said... only via commands03:57
hsunda3ferger: that would probably mean you are not running any desktop at all. What Desktop Environment are you using?03:57
sorush20is there anything equivalent to windows recovery in linux or ubuntu?03:57
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bruenigknewt, you can go to System>Administration>Gnome Partition editor, although I think the one in the installer is the same thing03:57
bruenig!backup03:57
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi03:57
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snook353jimerson, it show an empty file03:57
cipher_nemobur[n] er: thx!03:57
raphacrimsun: no, it's not loaded. The ne module is only included with the installed system, but right now I have to run off the CD. That's my second problem though, Ubuntu 6.06 Server's kernel appears not to work on computers with 48Meg of RAM...03:57
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ryanakcanoumaan: no clue... sorry, I just know that it's possible using that command...03:57
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: np03:57
Dr_willissorush20,  remind me what windows-recovery does?03:57
knewtbruenig: i'm using the expert server install03:57
w30bur[n] er, good that would be better03:57
ryanakcanoumaan: aka, I forget how I had done it..03:57
Jimersonmenu->places->computer->filesystem->etc->x11 snook35303:58
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cipher_nemow30: I don't think I'll need to do that since pretty clean system just for use as a PVR03:58
bruenigknewt, ah03:58
snook353ok, jimerson03:58
noumaanryanakca,  what about shift:swapcaps03:58
Jimersonsnook353 try it through that and it will work, I had trouble with the terminal too03:58
cipher_nemow30: but would be good to know in the future :)03:58
ryanakcanoumaan: have you tried using a differrent keyboardmap?03:58
sorush20Dr_willis: key files are replaced , just wondering if my key files could alos be replaced..03:58
ryanakcanoumaan: maybe03:58
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noumaanryanakca,  yes03:58
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knewtbruenig: and my "partitions" are all device-mapped. i've got them set up, but i need to get the ubuntu installer to know about them03:58
ryanakcanoumaan: kk03:58
bruenigknetw, I got nothing03:58
crimsunrapha: you chroot into your Ubuntu install and install another kernel.03:59
cipher_nemoburner and w30, thx for the help... I'll relog and check it out03:59
avagantOk, I'm using fluxbox, and I like it.03:59
snook353jimerson, ok , i got it03:59
avagantThis is about the easiest thing in the world.03:59
Stevowho knows about wireless in ubuntu?03:59
snook353i'll paste it03:59
gunfusHello guys03:59
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Jimersonsnook353 great! Now scrolls down until you find input devices synaptic touchpad03:59
cipher_nemobur[n] er: does the two commands you gave me also transfer Firefox bookmarks?03:59
gunfusI am trying to learn more about the linux source03:59
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Dr_willissorush20,  a users 'key' files would all be in the home dir..  system wide - hmm.. /etc/ and a few other spots.. so ive not noiticed any similer programs for linux. you could make your own.. but how do you know whats imporiutant or not. :P03:59
w30cipher_nemo, I keep a fake user on my system so I can steal files when I f#%@$%up, god knows I do it enough.03:59
avagant!pastebin03:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:59
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gunfusI wonder if anyone has a good recomendation on where to start reading the source03:59
gunfusor what is someone easy to understand04:00
gunfusso far I am looking at v4l04:00
gunfuswhich is not too bad04:00
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: yes... it copies settings for all programs04:00
Dr_willisgunfus,  what source specfically?04:00
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bur[n] ercipher_nemo: be it firefox favorites, or thunderbird configuration04:00
sorush20Dr_willis: I think that would com  under the easy backup project that is under develop04:00
gunfusright now I am looking at tuner.c04:00
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retercan i go from hoary to dapper and skip breezy updates?04:00
cipher_nemow30: ahhh, makes sense :) I'm sure I would to if I was using ubuntu as my primary desktop... fortunately I can only fup right now, because onces MythTV is working, I won't do much else with the pc :)04:00
Dr_willissorush20,  i can say that ive never really had much of a need to backup the stuff. :P04:00
snook353*looking*, jimerson04:01
avagantreter: I've read that wasn't adviced.04:01
cipher_nemobur[n] er: cool, thx again!04:01
bur[n] erreter: i wouldn't advise it... i killed a pc doing that once04:01
ArrenLexreter: when you apt-get dist-upgrade, you go to the newest packages in your repositories.04:01
Xenguyreter: I don't think that is recommended :-/04:01
cipher_nemothat was easy :)04:01
hsunda3gunfus: the source is too massive. Perhaps you might be better off determining what part of the source you want to learn first, and then look at that section of the code. Or you could start from a scratch at something like kernelnewbies.org or something04:01
crimsunreter: it's not recommended to skip stable releases when dist-upgrading. That said, it's doable if you have patience and diligence.04:01
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Ubuntu-neHello all.04:01
sheepy1988hey folks, anyone good with rhythmbox?04:01
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bur[n] ersheepy1988: define "good with" ;)04:01
gunfushsunda3: I will go to that04:01
snook353ok, i found several things about the  input devices synaptic touchpad, jimerson04:01
bruenigsheepy1988, just ask04:01
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raphacrimsun: I'm already chrooted into it and am happily doing stuff. I just don't know which of the Ubuntu kernels that are in the repos could suit a box with 48MB of RAM?04:01
crimsunrapha: -38604:02
hsunda3gunfus: http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHacking04:02
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raphacrimsun: that's what the -server kernel is...04:02
ryanakcaI've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)04:02
sheepy1988my rhythmbox doesnt play mp3s for some reason, i dont know if its because they're from an ipod backup disc or because its on a dvd, or because i havent got a decoder installed (newbie)04:02
errrI did a server install of ubuntu, I did apt-get install gnome and got all the stuff needed for a gui now, but Im not sure the command to use to kick off the X server setup, any hints?04:02
gunfushsunda3: THANKS!04:02
crimsunrapha: the -server kernel has a different config to -38604:02
Jimersonsnook353 can you email me all the options under that section?04:02
raphacrimsun: aaah okay... thx then :)04:02
bruenigsheepy1988, ubuntu doesn't have mp3 support by default, you have to install it04:02
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sheepy1988ah04:03
ArrenLexerrr: apt-get install xserver-xorg x-window-system-core04:03
bruenigubotu, tell sheepy1988 about mp304:03
hsunda3gunfus: what you were searching for?04:03
snook353i've pasted it, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25619/ jimerson04:03
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La_PaRCaWhat would be the right software for someone to use on windows if they want to share their webcam with me in ekiga?04:03
Ubuntu-neRandom question to the room: Should a basic Ubuntu install allow for desktops larger than 1024x768 for an Nvidia 5900?04:03
Jimersonsnook353 ah thanks04:03
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sheepy1988any hints on where to get the decorder and what not?04:03
sheepy1988decoder*04:03
mortal5for mplayer, don't you put your codecs in /usr/lib/codecs?04:03
bruenigsheepy1988, check this04:03
bruenig!restricted04:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:03
ArrenLexUbuntu-ne: yes.04:03
errrArrenLex: wouldnt apt-get install gnome have added an Xserver considering it wont run with out one?04:03
crimsunmortal5: /usr/lib/win32/04:03
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snook353so you have about the same toshiba, jimerson?04:03
ArrenLexmortal: /usr/lib/win32 is default, although codecs will also work04:04
Ubuntu-neArreLex.. hmmm. Thanks. I was afraid of that.04:04
sorush20Dr_willis: google is offering something like this http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/index.html, I think it would be a great idea for ubuntu to do something similar where by if you have to reinstall your root partition and download update etc you would be able to sync back to the origianl ubuntu that you left. I do not mean backing up all your root partition but just your fav programs that you would like to 04:04
gunfushsunda3: well first I want to get my tuner video card working and for that I am working with the v4l guys.. next I guess I wanted to look into monitoring my system which I tried a couple of months ago.. but I wasn't that much into the coding stuff04:04
Jimersonsnook353 no, but my options ar ethe exact same :(04:04
ArrenLexerr: not necessarily. Check.04:04
snook353Oh :(04:04
sheepy1988cheers mate04:04
Ubuntu-neI blew up my Xconfig trying to get above 1024x768.04:04
sorush20other things like source aditions from your fave sources is essential too..04:04
snook353jimerson:  hmmm04:04
errrArrenLex: wow what a rip, it didnt, but now it is.. that seems like a bug :)04:04
Jimersonsnork353 was worth a shot- thanks04:04
alex_ubuntu I am trying to enable the printer I have located on my routers printer port in cups, any help..04:04
ryanakcaI've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)04:04
gunfushsunda3: now I am thinking of something like getting this 256 RAM box PII box working with some linux04:04
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hsunda3gunfus: good luck!04:05
bruenigSoekisan, that is a lot of server space that is essentially unnecessary seeing as if you want the app back, you can download it again anyways04:05
snook353sorush20, you bought an external usb mouse, and it works better than the toughpad, jimerson?04:05
bruenigsorry Soekisan I meant sorush2004:05
Jimersonsnook353 usb mouse works fine, my touchpad does not04:05
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ArrenLexerrr: it's not a bug. Some people might want to install gnome on, for example, a network machine which serves the environment or applications for use by other machines running X on the network.04:05
gunfushsunda3: Thanks04:05
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raphacrimsun: is there a specification or something somewhere that says what the minimum requirements for the Ubuntu kernels are?04:05
snook353Oh, well that's better than nothing, jimerson04:05
gunfushsunda3: I should probably look into gento for installing linux on the 256 RAM box, eh?04:05
viatori configure my touch pad through the gui04:06
Dr_willissorush20,  theres several bookmark cacheing sites/tools out.. i was using that google one.. but some how it lost my bookmarks. :(  using Del.icio.us right now04:06
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hsunda3gunfus: probably not until you are quite comfortable with Linux in general .. for which of course Ubuntu is the best way to get started..04:06
nadsHello... can anyone please help me set up my VPN connection to work? pptpconfig seems to work and is connected, but I'm unable to ping any remote computer....04:06
Jimersonsnook353 yeah true, but I still need to get this fixed so I can use the trackpad in the car or in class, or other places where using a mouse is not possible04:06
ArrenLexryanacka, try the command04:06
crimsunrapha: the release notes have same basic notes, but feel free to flesh them out04:06
ArrenLexryancka: convert -delay 20 *.png foo.gif04:06
snook353yeah.  i'm lookin forward to edgy, jimerson04:07
DrSpinJust installed Dapper... semms that the file /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant is missing04:07
raphacrimsun: as soon as I find them out :)04:07
Jimersonsnook353 is edgy suppose to fix this problem?04:07
snook353maybe someone will catch this prob, jimerson.  idk04:07
gunfushsunda3: I am at medium confort  with linux.. but not the source.. there is of course tons of stuff that I need to get more familiar..04:07
DrSpinoh... and the config files aren't there04:07
Ubuntu-neIf my X config is hosed and It's a fresh install it would faster/easier to just reinstall rather than try to fix my xconf. I'm a Linux noob and can't vi my way out of a sack.04:07
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Jimersonsnook353 if I ever figure it out I'll let you know04:07
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DrSpinanyone know where I can get a package that properly installs?04:07
snook353ok, thanks jimerson04:07
ArrenLexUbuntu-ne: if you don't understand vi, use nano. More intuitive.04:08
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hsunda3gunfus: ok! good luck .. you could try Gentoo ... but remember, watching tons of messages scroll by your screen doesn't necessarily *teach* you anything. You can learn just about everything you want to know with Ubuntu as well...don't go by the misconception that if you install everything from source you will learn more. You can do all that from Ubuntu as well..04:08
krangdoes anyone know why my disks are getting fskd every time I boot? It's a 250GB disk, and it's getting really annoying04:08
Ubuntu-neI was going to try to fire up Lynx to research the problem but U doesn't have Lynx installed by default?? I'm up on a SLAX live CD right now.04:08
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totall_6_7Ubuntu-ne: use nano or gedit they are easer to use than vi04:08
snook353well, i'll wait a while to see who else has a prob with the newest epiphany....i like it better than firefox04:08
hsunda3krang: how are you shutting down the machine?04:08
kranghsunda3: with the trusty shutdown option in the GUi menu04:09
ArrenLexUbuntu-ne: if you want lynx, install it. apt-get install lynx04:09
crimsunUbuntu-ne: w3m is in the ubuntu-standard seed.04:09
ArrenLexsnook: epiphany doesn't support all the plugins I'm used to and comes with even more stupid Gnome dependencies. ;_;04:09
hsunda3krang: hmm.... normally a fsck happens every once in 30 reboots.. (or something) .. sometimes it happens if *the machine was not shutdown cleanly* ...04:09
w30totall_6_7, is nano a terminal app?04:10
snook353hmmm :(, jimerson04:10
gunfushsunda3: I am with you.. back in the days of RH, for which my server is still on RH.. I have to often install everything from source.. and it really wasn't very motivating.. specially because of the problems that I was having compiling and looking at tons of mesgs scroll through my console without much knwoledge04:10
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kranghsunda3: I know, but this is doing it every time, regardless (no messages about "30 times without check" either)04:10
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ArrenLexw30: nano is a terminal app, yes.04:10
snook353i don't like opera, and firefox Has Been unstable, jimeson04:10
Ubuntu-nehmm....04:10
Jimersonsnook353 yes?04:10
snook353jimerson, i'll see about this newest firefox04:10
totall_6_7w30: i have no clue on nano, i was just echoing what was said, I only use gedit, its simple and works04:10
Ubuntu-neThanks for the input on nano and gedit..04:10
Jimersonsnook353 ok04:10
hsunda3gunfus: lol .. the whole message scrolling will increase your geek factor in front of your friends through. The terminal always seems to carry some geek points with it ..04:11
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snook353jimerson, it Had been unstable04:11
Ubuntu-neis gedit a terminal app?04:11
suff0katehow do you make yourself owner cause i'm the only one that uses this comp and i want to have full access to read and write on files04:11
hsunda3krang: hmm... is there anything you could figure out from the output of the 'dmesg' command?04:11
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ArrenLexUbuntu-ne: gedit is a gnome notepad clone. Graphical.04:11
kranghsunda3: good suggestion, I'll go see04:11
totall_6_7Ubuntu-ne:  you can run gedit from terminal yes04:11
snook353oops, ok arrenlex04:11
Ubuntu-neAh. that's what I thought. (hense the g)04:11
sureshothey if i run windows xp in a vm would i be able to run games and such such as swat 3 and 4 ghost recon and such04:11
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hsunda3gunfus: by back in the days, do you mean RH when it was still free? Wow .. then you must have bene using linux for long indeed...04:11
ArrenLexsuff0kate: that's exactly what Linux is designed NOT to let you do. If you need root access temporarily, prefix the command with sudo.04:11
Dr_willissureshot,  not very well.04:11
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TonrenHey guys, why are my images in Firefox garbled?  How do I fix it?04:12
hsunda3sureshot: not sure.. guess you need lots of memory for that.. and still not very smoothly. VM I don't think is meant for gaming, atleast not yet.04:12
gunfushsunda3: yeah.. it increases my geek factor.. If i know what it reads.. otherwise.. when they ask me I will totally be such a dumb-head (for being politicly correct)04:12
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hsunda3gunfus lol..04:12
bruenigTonren, are you sure they are just resizing them, if so you can click on them to see them fully sized04:12
bruenigaren't*04:12
tonyyarussoHow to define mount options for drives that are managed through hal?  For instance, I would like to have all USB flash drives mount with the sync option rather than the default of async, but of course such devices do not exist in fstab.04:12
gunfushsunda3: yep.. back in the days when it was free.. I started with RH5.2 and I was enthusiastic.. but I nevere really understood much of the code04:13
sureshotthanks all dont have cedega on disability not money to buy it and i want to cut up my xp cd and send it back to ms as a statement04:13
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Tonrenbruenig: Oh, they're certainly quite garbled.  Chunks of the image have been moved around, the coloration is off... all sorts of horrible things are happening to my poor images.04:13
Tonrenbruenig: And it happens on every website!04:13
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hsunda3gunfus: indeed..it's never too late to learn !04:13
ThePirateMonk3ydoes anyone know about support on ubuntu for creative media players?04:13
gunfushsunda3: Now.. things are getting a lot better since I have 5 years of coding experience not particulary in C but in java.. C i did it for a year last year04:13
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hsunda3ok04:13
ArrenLexHi Jesus!04:14
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dtrumphello04:14
BankHeadhello04:14
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man_id_unknownHow common is WxWidgets?04:14
BankHeaddon't know04:14
dtrumpI'll soon find out04:14
Ubuntu-neWell thanks for the help. I'm going to switch over to the DD live cd and see about reinstalling. I'll be back.04:14
hsunda3man_id_unknown: there are some good apps written with wx. I think Audacity is one.04:14
crimsunman_id_unknown: quite common.04:14
gunfushsunda3: I remenber one day I was able to turn my fan on or off on my laptop.. that defently put me high in the geek factor in front of my friends..04:14
kranghsunda3: Nope, no mention. it probes the IDE interfaces and recognises filesystems, but that's it04:15
man_id_unknowncrimsun: is it common enough to create a program with it without worry?04:15
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gunfushsunda3: the only thing though.. is that I did leave linux alone for a long time.. since about RH6 to one year ago..04:15
crimsunman_id_unknown: yes04:15
man_id_unknownhsunda3: is it common enough to create a program with it without worry?04:15
gunfushsunda3: so i was away for a few years..04:15
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viatorremove firefox04:15
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man_id_unknowncrimsun: thank you. I appreceate that.04:15
regionalpI am installing ubuntu on my laptop, which has an 80 gig hard drive04:15
regionalp          with 11 gigs free.  I want to keep the other stuff on there.  I04:15
regionalp          can't decide in the ubuntu installation whether to select this04:15
regionalp          option: "Resize SCSI1 (o, o, o), partition #2 (sda) and use the04:15
regionalp          freed space" or this option: "use the largest continuous free04:15
regionalp          space."  Can someone please explain what these options mean? I don't04:15
regionalp          want to fuck things up.04:15
hsunda3man_id_unknown: yes why not ...04:15
knixtechplease help - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25623/04:15
sureshotwould anyone know ware i could get my hands on cedega04:15
ArrenLexman_id: if your program is going to be in a package, then the dependencies are resolved automatically.04:15
crimsunvlc is another well known program that uses WxW04:15
hsunda3krang: hmmm... I am lost now ... sorry ..04:15
gunfusubotu: tell regionalp about pastebin04:15
hsunda3man_id_unknown: of course! VLC ..04:15
ArrenLex!pastebin > regionalp04:15
man_id_unknownhsunda3: I don't have a reason. I just truly didn't know.04:16
snook353i've been thinkin abou trying kunbuntu dapper.  would that be a good choice?04:16
man_id_unknownhsunda3: What is VLC, Sir?04:16
w30totall_6_7, for command line I like pico that comes with pine mail04:16
Ubuntu-neIf anyone wants to get a chuckle at watching a noob (that would be me) knock his head around Ubuntu I'll be blogging about it. (www.friedgeek.com) Thanks again.04:16
knixtechsureshot, buy it?04:16
DrSpincould someone help me get WPA working on Dapper?? It seems the package for wpasupplicant is horribly broken (no init script, no config files)04:16
viatorsudo apt-get --purge remove firefox04:16
hsunda3man_id_unknown: VLC is a popular media player on Linux/Windows/Mac ... open source, plays all kinds of files ...04:16
Ash-FoxHow would one extract a bunch of zip files in a directory? unzip -d *.zip ?04:16
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kranghsunda3: No trouble. Thanks anyway!04:16
knixtechDrSpin, network-manager04:16
gunfushsunda3: anyways.. thanks for the website.. I will look into it.. maybe one day I will be more useful like you :D04:16
viatorand reinstall it see if that remedies it04:16
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ArrenLexMention me, Ubuntu-ne! ;)04:16
WhiteNoiseregionalp, if you don't mind an 11gig ubuntu install, why not 'user the largest .. free space'?04:17
Ubuntu-neWill do ArrenLex.04:17
sureshotknixtech gee i wish i had thought of that04:17
DrSpinknixtech: UH ??04:17
hsunda3gunfus: I just happen to know it, becuase I am taking an operating systems class in university .. best wishes anyway!04:17
man_id_unknownhsunda3: Thank you. This really helps a lot. I need a easy-to-use yet popular gui. I think this is the one. ;) Thanks, SIr.04:17
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knixtechhehe04:17
AstrayIs it possible to change the hide/unhide speed of the gnome panels?04:17
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knixtechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25623/04:17
malvwhen is Edgy due?04:17
viatormake SURE the is no .mozilla folder04:17
viatorin your home dir04:17
knixtechDrSpin, install network-manager04:17
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viatordelete it04:17
knixtechDrSpin, and WPA will work just fine04:17
ArrenLexknixtech: where is this package from? It's newer than your system.04:17
avagantWow, this fluxbox is like BAM BAM04:18
GigaClonI have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.304:18
GigaClongcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory04:18
sureshotsureshot is on disability and fixed income and money for things like that is not avaliable04:18
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knixtechArrenLex, I got it on the site, and if i do a apt-get same thing04:18
knixtechsureshot, search google04:18
DrSpinknixtech: are you sure you're not thinking WEP -- because that works fine04:18
knixtechDrSpin, no, WPA,  i am using it to talk to you ;)04:19
alex_ubuntuI have a printer on a print server, anyone know how to configure it... I had it working in RH8 with parport and lpd but can't figure it out on dapper04:19
micahcowanknixtech, kudos for using electricsheep ^_^ ...btw, afaik it doesn't work well with gnome-screensaver (I'm using xscreensaver)04:19
micahcowanOddly, I haven't encountered the trouble you seem to be having, either on dapper or edgy :/04:19
TonrenHey guys, why are my images in Firefox garbled?  How do I fix it?04:19
alex_ubuntuthe driver is loaded I just need to re-direct it properly04:19
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DrSpinknixtech: it installs by default it seems... still no wpa...04:19
viatori have wpa on too04:19
viator:)04:20
knixtechDrSpin, gnome or KDE?04:20
DrSpinhow did you configure it??04:20
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DrSpinGNOME, XFCE04:20
viatordud its simple in the gui04:20
DrSpinbeen screwing with wpasupplicant for a couple horus now and still nothing04:20
knixtechDrSpin, do you have network-manager-gnome installed?04:20
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viatorin network manager04:20
DrSpinno -- it won't find any interfaces04:20
Max_-xmule or amule?04:20
bur[n] erDrSpin: it will if you comment out /etc/network/interfaces file04:21
viatoryeah go to ect/network/interfaces04:21
suff0katehow do you grant read and write access to /ect/privoxy/config  ??04:21
knixtechmicahcowan, ty for the kudos04:21
viatorand comment everything out04:21
viatorexcept04:21
viatorlo04:21
viatorloopback04:21
DrSpinor rename ??04:21
DrSpinLOL04:21
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ferossDrSpin: goto  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com  little wpa howto04:21
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micahcowanknixtech, where did you get the electricsheep .deb you're trying to install?04:22
viatorcomment out you know put # signs infornt of04:22
kintaro0ehi guys.how to disable the root account?04:22
w30alex_ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu04:22
knixtechmicahcowan, i got it from the electricsheep.org04:22
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knixtechmicahcowan, latest for debian04:23
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micahcowankintaro0e, by default, it's disabled for login. If you've enabled it, you can delete root's password. Is that what you mean, or do you mean something else?04:23
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micahcowanknixtech, do you currently have it installed via the ubuntu repositories, or not installed at all? I'd recommend that you use the Ubuntu-specific .deb, if you don't.04:23
adamHelp I can't install a package! log file details here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25624/04:23
knixtechmicahcowan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/04:24
alex_ubuntuw30, been ther tried that different config04:24
AstrayDoes anyone know if it's possible to assig na different wallpaper per workspace?04:24
ArrenLexadam: why are you trying to install this package?04:24
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alex_ubuntuthis is not a linux print server it is a router with a parallel port print server built in04:24
adamto get MTP working w/ my mp3 player04:24
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regionalpI am installing ubuntu on my laptop, which has an 80 gig hard drive with 11 gigs free.  I want to keep the other stuff on there.  I can't decide in the ubuntu installation whether to select this option: "Resize SCSI1 (o, o, o), partition #2 (sda) and use the freed space" or this option: "use the largest continuous free space."  Can someone please explain what these options mean? I don't want to fuck things up.04:24
ArrenLexadam: does it provide a somehow better version of the libntp package you already have installed?04:25
sg2how do i install divx codecs?04:25
ArrenLexlibnjb5? **04:25
knixtechsg2, easyubuntu04:25
bm0nkCan someone do me a favour and type    modprobe firmware_class   and tell me if it says   FATAL: Module firmware_class not found   ? :S04:25
knixtech!easyubuntu04:25
ArrenLex!codecs > sg204:25
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:25
viatorget a real printserver04:25
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knixtech!easyubuntu > sg204:26
ArrenLex$ modprobe firmware_class04:26
ArrenLexFATAL: Module firmware_class not found.04:26
viatoror a real networked printer04:26
knixtechmicahcowan, and yes , all the repos are enabled04:26
bm0nkArrenLex : thanks04:26
ferossregionalp: you can do costum partition and do it yourself04:26
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adam??? like a more recent version is installed?04:26
alex_ubuntuI have a dapper server up but haven'y figured it out yet..04:26
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micahcowanadam, it looks like it's probably safe for you to force overwriting. Try running the dpkg again with --force-conflicts?04:27
kintaro0emicahcowan: hi i remember my friend told me using the passwd or sudo something that will disable the root account04:27
ferossregionalp: when the installer talks about use continuous free space, are you sure it's talking about the 11GB you can use?04:27
Mat_666Hello...   I have a problem with external SATA disks...   they won't shutdown properly and I need to fsck them at reboot....   tried to script a sync+umount in a custom etc/rc1.d/K88 script, but it won't help....  any ideas ?04:27
adamok i'll try04:27
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micahcowankintaro0e, the root account is disabled by default on Ubuntu. Have you done anything to enable it/do you have a root password?04:28
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micahcowanknixtech, hm.... which version of Ubuntu are you running?04:28
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regionalpfeross: no, I have no idea what is going on.  I have 1 partition presently, 80 GB NTFS windows hard drive.  11 gb is empty on this partion.  I want to install ubuntu on this 11 gb. How do I achieve this?04:28
knixtechmicahcowan, dapper04:29
kintaro0emicahcowan: yes.i enable it..but now i remember its just like this: sudo passwd -l root04:29
kintaro0eright?04:29
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ferossMat_666: external SATA disks? are they hooked up via USB or are they just SATA disks but they're hanging out of your box? ;}04:29
iCodHere's my problem, on startup loading hardware drivers and something else right before it fails, reducing startup time to about 5-10 ten minutes because it hangs before it says failed. Would anyone have clue of what's going on?04:29
Mat_666eSATA disks04:29
adammicahcowan did u try that right? cause when I try to put "sudo checkinstall --force-conflicts" (without quotes) in the terminal it says it's an unrecognized option04:29
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adamtype*04:29
micahcowankintaro0e, yes, that sounds like just what you want.04:29
kintaro0emicahcowan: yeah..thanks04:29
ArrenLexadam: Why are you checkinstalling? You already have a .deb backage.04:29
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viator!electricsheep04:30
Mat_666it's a SATA card with eSATA connectors.  the eSATA connector goes into a eSATA enclosure, which has a regular SATA connection inside.04:30
ubotuelectricsheep: screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2669 kB, installed size 3376 kB04:30
ferossregionalp: ohh, you should resize the NTFS partition.04:30
ArrenLexadam: could you please paste the output of dpkg -l libnjb5 | grep ii04:30
knixtechviator, woot,  now can you fix it for me?04:30
knixtechviator, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/04:30
regionalpfeross: how? In windows? may I do that in the ubuntu installer?04:31
adamii  libnjb5        2.2.4-3ubuntu3 Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox library04:31
ferossregionalp: hmm, never had to do it with the installer but I think you can.04:31
micahcowanadam, yes: the option I gave you was for dpkg. Hm... I wouldn't recommend overwriting something installed by a .deb with something from checkinstall... I think you probably don't want to install from source. You may be wanting to install libnjb-dev (note the -dev) instead.04:31
ArrenLexadam: you seem to be upgrading. If you're using checkinstall to build from source, specify the "name" to be libnjb5 to do it cleanly and avoid all these problems.04:31
ferossregionalp: I've done it with qtparted.04:31
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ArrenLexadam: and make sure you specify version to be 2.2.504:32
ninwaAnybody here familiar with setting up ATI drivers for the Radeon 9800 Pro on Edgy?04:32
ArrenLexninwa: are you having problems?04:32
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w30feross, does a ntfs partiton need to be defragged?04:32
viatorremove it and try reinstalling it for sh#$% and giggles04:32
ferossw30: yes04:32
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ninwaArrenLex, yes. My xorg.conf looks right, and I downloaded and installed the packages, but fglrxinfo doesn't show it as being ATI drivers.04:33
knixtech!electricsheep > knixtech04:33
micahcowanknixtech, I'm afraid I've never seen errors from apt like that (for those reading along: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/). I'm not sure how to get around that.  Wait, are you sure it didn't install? After the QT errors (which seem quite odd coming from apt-get), it appears to continue installing...04:33
ninwaAt this point I'd go for any advice :)04:33
ArrenLexninwa: downloaded and installed what packages?04:33
ninwaI had it working on dapper, it was painless04:33
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ninwaArren, one second, I did a lot of stuff out of desperation at one point, haha. Let me bring up the guide I used.04:34
knixtechmicahcowan, well it does install, because it shows up in ss,  but doesnt run04:34
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ArrenLexknixtech: I don't think those errors are from apt. Have you, by any chance, launched a program with an & switch earlier in this terminal session?04:34
suff0katehow am i supposed to edit the damn config.txt when i can't even save it04:34
knixtechArrenLex, nope04:34
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suff0kateand when i try using the access stuff it doesn't work04:34
GigaClongcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory04:34
jribubotu: tell suff0kate about sudo04:34
GigaClonI have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.304:34
micahcowanknixtech, doesn't run? Are you using gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver? What happens when you try to run it?04:34
ArrenLex...04:34
Abst...04:34
jribsuff0kate: by "access stuff" you mean sudo?04:34
ferossregionalp: so what are you doing?04:34
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ArrenLexWhat happen? Somebody set up us the bomb?04:35
AbstBwhaha04:35
knixtechwtf04:35
AbstThats cool04:35
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fildowtf04:35
SinnerGlol04:35
suff0kateno i want to add a line to the config but it won't let me04:35
viatorbots?04:35
jribsuff0kate: what config?04:35
w30ooooooooooohh, the twilight zone04:35
AlReece45that was a lot of people getting off at once...04:35
suff0kateprivoxy04:35
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knixtechmicahcowan, how do i know which one i am using?04:35
adamhere's what I got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25626/04:35
SinnerGsplit :p04:35
jribsuff0kate: use sudo, like so:    sudo nano /etc/foo04:35
ninwaArrenLex: I followed Method 2 - http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide04:35
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kitcheAlReece45: it was a net split04:36
AbstWhats a net split04:36
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Mat_666I have a problem with external eSATA disks...   they won't shutdown properly and I need to fsck them at reboot....   tried to script a sync+umount in a custom etc/rc1.d/K88 script, but it won't help.... I'm sure this script is ran because I created small text file in it to verify it is run.  I put the script at K88 because I want it to be ran last, juste before the syslogd shutdown (these are data partitions, not system ones...  however I have a virtual ma04:36
ArrenLexadam: no. Run the command "checkinstall". Then when it brings up that screen when it shows you the values, press 2 and enter. Type libnjb5. Press enter.04:36
ichabodhi04:36
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knixtechmicahcowan, if i run "electricsheep" in shell, it comes up and plays the sheep, but if i set it to ss, it does nothing04:36
iCodHere's my problem, on startup loading hardware drivers and something else right before it fails, reducing startup time to about 5-10 ten minutes because it hangs before it says failed. Would anyone have clue of what's going on?04:36
micahcowanknixtech, if you haven't changed anything, you're using gnome-screensaver. Do you simply get a black screen when you're running it? (BTW, have you used electricsheep before?)04:36
ninwaArren, let me retry a few things first, actually. I believe I might have missed a step.04:36
knixtechmicahcowan, yes a black screen04:36
knixtechmicahcowan, i use it on windows, so yes i know how it works04:37
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adamok. now enter to continue?04:37
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knixtechack i said windows04:37
ichabodI'm running an intel 865G graphics card, but when I try to run Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, I hear sound, but see nothing.04:37
ArrenLexninwa: are you certain that your card won't be supported by the driver installed via method 1?04:37
micahcowanknixtech, unfortunately, I haven't gotten it running on gnome-screensaver recently. I had to install xscreensaver (apt-get install xscreensaver), which mostly replaces gnome-screensaver.04:37
knixtechgreat, ill try that04:38
knixtechty04:38
ArrenLexadam: yes, if "name" is libnjb5 and "version" is 2.2.5, press enter.04:38
ninwaArren, no I'm not. Do you suggest I retrace the steps in method 1?04:38
ArrenLexninwa: I strongly suggest you use the default ubuntu packages if at all possible.04:38
ichabodI figure it's a driver problem, but I haven't a clue; I'm new to linux, and am running dapper drake.04:38
ArrenLexninwa: much less... messing.04:38
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knixtechmicahcowan, how do i use the xscreensaver?04:39
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nrdbI am looking into video capture, if a card uses the bttv module does that mean it uses software compression ?04:39
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adami still got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25628/04:39
viatorsamewa uou use gnome-screensaver04:39
micahcowanknixtech, I should warn you that the screensaver config doesn't seem to be in System -> Preferences for xscreensaver, though. You may need to manually run xscreensaver-demo. And, you'll probably need to log out/log in for xscreensaver to come up with your gnome session.04:39
ArrenLexadam: view the log. Tell me what it says.04:39
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knixtechmicahcowan, ty04:40
tarmathsorry newbie question here lads... Ive always wondered how I could see why a package is being installed when I request another package... like what is the dependency tree... is there any application that can tell me that?04:40
adamo wait easy to fix. log says operation requires superuser privilege. I just use sudo right?04:40
ferossichabod: not sure exactly but I would run the game in 'safe' mode and change the video setting to the lowest at first and then try it. Then notch it up little by little until you get best resolution without fudging things up.04:40
ichabodokay... how do I run in safe mode? I'm a complete noob.04:40
kitchetarmath: you could go to the software website that your install it says the dependencies on there04:40
ArrenLexadam: I strongly suggest you run the command from scratch as "sudo checkinstall" rather than just installing the generated package with sudo.04:40
ferossichabod: I'm not familiar with the game but you can probably find it on the game website or google.. G Knows ALL.04:41
motinUpdated: http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToComfortablySwitchFromWindowsToUbuntu  I appreciate feedback and impromptu corrections (the wiki is open for everyone)04:41
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ArrenLexfeross: if you run the command "glxgears", do you see it?04:41
ichabodI searched google for a couple days (!!!) but to no avail.04:41
tarmathkitche: well the dependencies im wondering about dont seem to be directly needed by the application I want to install...04:41
nrdbichabod: there are ordinary users (default) and then root access (must be admin and give password) that can do anything.04:41
ferossArrenLex: yes I see it but it runs SLOOOOWWW for me because I have a SiS card in my lappy.04:42
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ichabodSo if I want to run in safe mode, I have to have root access?04:42
kitchetarmath they probably are just that they are needed for the other things to work in that app04:42
ArrenLexfeross -> ichabod for glxgears, sorry04:42
deckoHi guys!!! There some way to install Ubuntu in a LVM Volume???04:42
tarmathkitche: yes, but I want to know which one...04:42
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ichabodglxgears? Yes, I see them.04:43
ArrenLexdecko: check out the alternate install.04:43
ferossArrenLex: oh ok, was going to say no 3D support for SiS ... Lesson learned, always buy lappys with Nvidia04:43
adamhere's the instructions I found on the ubuntu forums to get my mp3 player working on ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250 does this help? I ran into the original problem at step 12 under manual instructions04:43
ArrenLexNvidia owns all.04:43
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ichabodI have crappy intel 'extreme' graphics 2. Ugh.04:43
ferossichabod: no, it all depends on the game04:43
ichabodokay, so how do I run it in safe mode?04:43
ArrenLexadam: no problem. There is no issue. Just run "sudo checkinstall" right now.04:43
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bur[n] erintel extreme works with beryl for me :)  I like it04:43
ArrenLexichabod: do you get 3D acceleration?04:43
ichabodI don't know. How do I tell?04:44
kitchebur[n] er aiglx?04:44
jmerlinwhat is the command to display the gnome "Run Application" dialog?04:44
bur[n] erkitche: si04:44
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deckoArrenLex: What is this??? a new system??? Or can I do this with the liveCD???04:44
ArrenLexichabod: if you do, be happy with the card -- Intel is the only open-source 3D driver. :)04:44
ferossichabod: go to google.com type in. wolfinstein safe mode ... then hit enter.. look through articles04:44
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bur[n] erjmerlin: Alt+F204:44
adamy04:44
adamoops04:44
nrdbichabod: an ordinary user can't modify the most of the setup files for linux so is 'safe', the root/admin user can change anything so is 'unsafe'04:44
jmerlinnot alt+f204:44
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bruenigbur[n] er, that is not a command04:44
suff0katehow do you save in gnu nano?04:44
jmerlinthe actual terminal command04:44
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ichabodoh... okay! Thanks. I'll be back in a bit. I'm running it in safe mode, then, I guess.04:44
jmerlini need to add it to my menu via alacarte04:44
bur[n] erjmerlin: isn't it part of metacity?04:44
jmerlinand you can't add alt+f2 as a command04:44
jmerlinperhaps04:44
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ArrenLexsuffokate: ctrl + x, y, s04:45
jimersonhow do I change permissions on a file that is read/write for the owner?04:45
ArrenLexsorry, ctrl+x, y, enter04:45
nickv111How would one go about installing cryptsetup on Dapper Drake?04:45
bur[n] erjmerlin: it's not part of metacity... it works in beryl too :\04:45
nrdbichabod: I presume you have a ubuntu setup?04:45
jmerlinhm..04:45
nickv111apt-cache search cryptsetup doesn't turn it up04:45
ichabodYes, I do.04:45
jmerlinwhat is the command then -_-04:45
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tarmathjmerlin: have you tried alt-f2 and then look at the process list?04:45
jmerlinhow do you check the plist?04:45
nickv111Maybe it's in a different repository?04:45
adami still get errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25630/04:45
tarmathjmerlin:  ps aux in a terminal04:45
bur[n] erjmerlin: got me ;)04:45
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jmerlinjimerson: chown to change the owner or chmod to add the flags04:46
ArrenLexadam: yes you are getting errors, because you're not changing the name to libnjb5 like I told you to.04:46
jmerlinjimerson: you might need to use sudo if it's owned by root04:46
tarmathjmerlin: do it before and after... while the window is showing04:46
kitchejmerlin you can pas aux or top04:46
jurehello i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner the auto.log file. someone help me ? (sorry for english)04:46
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nrdbichabod: if you put 'nrdb:' your message will be highlighted for me.  when you installed ubuntu you where asked for a user name, are you loged in with that name now?04:46
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ichabodnrdb: yes, I am logged into that name.04:47
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jimersonjmerlin thanks04:47
nrdbichabod: ok, this user has admin ability, open a terminal, and I will demonstate for you (nothing important will be changed).04:48
ichabodkk04:48
tarmathsorry newbie question here lads... Ive always wondered how I could see why a package is being installed when I request another package... like what is the dependency tree... is there any application that can tell me that?04:48
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viatorapt04:48
ichabodnrdb: It always just asks for a password whenever I want to do something adminish.04:48
ArrenLextarmath: do you mean, which file does it need?04:48
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nrdbichabod: yes.04:49
jimersonjmerlin what command follows sudo in order to open the file?04:49
kitcheArrenLex he means what software that is needed to make that app run like its's suppose to04:49
lufisTough question, but can anyone just give me the quick and dirty of what's the best filesystem?04:49
jurehello i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. someone help me ?04:49
ichabodnrdb: But what happens is that when I run Enemy Territory in console, I get a black screen, but I can hear the music.04:49
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segfaulttarmath, man apt-get also apt-cach show pkg-name will show u details including dependencies of pkg04:49
nrdbichabod: I don't know what 'Enemy Territory' is04:50
nickv111Nevermind. My /etc/apt/sources.list was fubar04:50
ichabodnrdb: oh... lol it's a WWII fps04:50
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tarmathsegfault: ive already looked into those, what I want is the dependency tree, not only the direct dependencies... have I overlooked something?04:50
nrdbichabod: a game?04:50
ichabodnrdb: yes04:50
dailamaAnyone here to help?04:50
dailamaI have a question if so?04:50
segfaultlufis, opinions vary, i like reiser for desktop04:50
nickv111dailama: Please do not ask to ask04:50
nickv111dailama: Just ask.04:50
ArrenLex!ask04:51
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:51
jmerlinjimerson: open it how?04:51
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dailamanickv111, how do i start something from within a terminal window04:51
nrdbichabod: does it start with a intro clip?04:51
jmerlinhow do i close a process with ps?04:51
ichabodnrdb: yes04:51
jurei deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?04:51
tarmathArrenLex: in fact im trying to figure out why installing some php web app makes the system want to install perl04:51
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dailamanickv111, and not lose the terminal window04:51
segfaultjmerlin, u dont use kill04:51
nickv111dailama: Just type the program name.04:51
lufissegfault: Well, I've been trying to figure out which one :P So many to choose from... and I refuse to use ext3 just because it's default ;)04:51
nickv111dailama: What program are you trying to start, for example?04:51
adamok thanks that part worked, but now on a different part of those instructions it says No package 'glib-2.0' found, No package 'gthread-2.0' found, and No package 'gtk+-2.0' found. how can i quickly get these packages?04:51
ichabodnrdb: but when I press space bar, which skips the clip, it's still black. And I don't know how to quit it after that either.04:51
ArrenLextarmath: ah. Yes, I've wondered that myself many times. If you find such a tool, please tell me!04:51
lufissegfault: I'm actually using resier right now...04:51
ichabodnrdb: so I have to coldboot my pc (shock)04:51
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jmerlinkill works :>04:51
jurei deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?04:52
nickv111dailama: Oh, I see what you're saying04:52
dailamafor instance i'm using tilda.....i start say...xmms from the terminal window04:52
ArrenLexadam: apt-cache search for those packages.04:52
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dailamai lose the terminal04:52
dailamauntil i close xmms04:52
nex_can anyone help me out with the alien command?04:52
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nex_i need to install maya04:52
segfaultlufis, i recommend reiser, ive used it for many years without any issue, it is quite fast and stable, and chks after an improper shutdown are faster than with ext2 or 304:52
nickv111dailama: You want to run a program, but you don't want to lose control of the terminal04:52
nrdbichabod: don't know what going on here, if you try and shut down the console, what happens ?04:52
ArrenLexdailama: instead of "xmms", type "xmms &"04:52
nex_but they are .rpm;s04:52
dailamanickv111, exactly04:52
nickv111dailama: Run it in the background by using an ampersand04:52
bur[n] erdailama: type "xmms &"04:52
jimersonjmerlin: I am trying to change the permissions of a file.. how do I open it under root?04:52
nickv111dailama: Like, "xmms &"04:52
tarmathArrenLex: cant possibly believe there wouldnt be one... but Im running out of places to look it up...04:52
bur[n] erdoh ;)04:52
ichabodnrbd: well, I don't know how to shut down the console. Kind of embarassing.04:52
dailamanickv111,04:53
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lufissegfault: Great, thank you :)04:53
dailamainteresting04:53
ichabodnrdb: it's just a black screen, I can't exit at all.04:53
segfaultlufis, np04:53
wickedpuppy& will put the program in background04:53
nickv111dailama: Basically, that just runs it in the background04:53
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jurei deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?04:53
jurei deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?04:53
nickv111dailama: "fg" will put it back into the foreground04:53
ArrenLex!repeat04:53
nrdbichabod: does the whole screen go black?04:53
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:53
nickv111dailama: Suspend and then "bg" will put it into the background again.04:53
nex_how do i use the "Alien" command to change the name of a file?04:53
ichabodnrdb: yup.04:53
ArrenLexnex: what do you mean, "change the name of a file"?04:53
lufisjure: Can you rephrase your question?04:53
dailamanickv111, so does that mean if I close the terminal out the program then dies as well04:53
kitchenex_: alien is used to convert packages04:54
wickedpuppynex_, alien doesn't change the name of the file ... mv does04:54
nex_that04:54
ichabodnrdb: it's a full screen program... maddeningly so.04:54
dailamain front or back?/04:54
nex_i need to convert the package04:54
jmerlinjimerson, you don't open it under root to change the permissions04:54
nickv111dailama: You need to type "^D"04:54
ArrenLexdailama: yes, the program will still die if you close the term. However, the term will be useable for other commands.04:54
nex_from .rpm to .deb04:54
lufisnex_: sudo apt-get install alien04:54
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nickv111dailama: Like, you need to exit the shell before you close the terminal for it to close without killing your process04:54
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dailamainteresting04:54
segfaulttarmath, dependency tree, hmm, i dont off such a tool (and havent needed one since i stopped using gentoo), ive always been able to find all the info i need from apt-get04:54
ferossjure: yeah, you don't make any sense. What auto.log? where is it located? why did you delete it? why do you want it back? what does the owner have to do with anything?04:54
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nickv111dailama: "^D" (ctrl-D) will exit your shell, leaving your running processes intact04:54
ArrenLexnex: sudo alien "package.rpm"04:54
jmerlinjimerson, you'll use chown to change the user or chmod to change the permissions04:54
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nex_without "" i suppose?04:55
nrdbichabod: ok.  now for a Linux trick, if you hold down <ctrl> <alt> keys and press <f1> ... <f7> you get different screen <f7> is the gui.  give it a try now.04:55
segfaulttarmath, err that should read i dont know of ....04:55
jimersonjmerlin: ok I will try that thanks04:55
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ArrenLexnex: without.04:55
pooruhow do i go about mounting a secondary slave hd?04:55
nex_ok04:55
jmerlindammit what's the command to launch the run command -_-.. i did the ps list by pid and it doesn't show up04:55
jmerlinat all04:55
nickv111It's got to be hard to be someone who speaks a language other than English in an English-centered technical world04:55
ichabodnrdb: cool! so those are like terminals w/o the gui, right?04:55
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nex_and that should change the "package" from .rpm to .deb?04:55
nickv111Not that the world is English-centered. Just the technical world, it seems.04:55
jmerlinran it without, started the run dialog, ran it again04:55
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jmerlinand it doesn't come up..04:55
pooruwhen i go to computer it shows up as "Local Slave"04:56
nrdbichabod: yes, you can allways kill a program from them.04:56
dailamanickv111, ctrl-d exits shell...program can run in foreground or background...ampersands free up the terminal when starting apps from the command line....anything else i miss?04:56
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ichabodnrdb: is there a specific command for killing a program?04:56
kitchejmerlin: you did that in a terminal?04:56
adamhow? sry i'm new to linux....i'm learning tho!04:56
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ArrenLexichabod: terminals are without the GUI by definition. The GUI terminals are terminal EMULATORS. :P They're a GUI frontend to mimic not having a GUI. Does that make sense?04:56
poorubut if i double-click on that it says "Unable to mount" b/c /dev/hdb1 is not removable04:56
GigaCloncan some one help me with this04:56
GigaClonI have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.304:56
GigaClongcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory04:56
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ArrenLexichabod: killall <program>04:56
jmerlinyes kitche04:56
GigaClonbut I have installed gcc 3.3 thru synaptic04:56
ichabodArrenLex: yes, that makes perfect sense.04:56
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jurelufis : which user is owner /var/log/auth.log file? i deleted this file. and created again. and now owner is root. what can i do. thanks (:04:57
nickv111dailama: Nope.04:57
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nrdbichabod: yes 'kill' the trick is you need to know the number of the process you want to kill, have you that console open04:57
ferosspooru: first you need to partition it and format it. then make a directory to mount it to like /mnt/spare ... Then use the mount command to mount.04:57
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ArrenLexjure: to change the owner, type "sudo chown <username> /var/log/auth.log" where <username> is whoever you want to own it.04:57
tarmathsegfault: i used to be on gentoo before too, and im missing that kinda app, Ill see if Ive read past something good for me in the apt-get manual again then...04:57
kitcheGigaClon: install build-essential04:57
GigaCloni have04:57
ichabodnrdb: no I don't have it open now... I wasn't sure how to close it again, and I thought I'd jump on here for some help.04:57
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jmerlinthe nearest i can find is gksuexec04:58
jmerlinwhich lets you run a program as a user04:58
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poorufeross, it already has data on it. it's formatted NTFS from my previous XP install04:58
jureArrenLex thanks04:58
CaptainMorganwhat's a good emulator(?) for playing games in ubuntu that run in Win? Im not thinking anything 3-D or intense.. just simple online poker04:58
poorui'm trying to get the data off of it04:58
rixthBHSPitLappy, yo around?04:58
kitcheCaptainMorgan: wine04:58
bignosehi. i just booted off the livecd, and network manager does not have WPA options for my wireless card, only WEP. what's the deal ?04:58
bur[n] erCaptainMorgan: wine04:58
segfaulttarmath, :) i find i care less about the extra libs etc that get installed when i dont have to compile them, i just install what i need04:58
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ArrenLexCaptainMorgan: online poker? Like, In a browser?04:58
CaptainMorganArrenLex, nah04:58
nrdbichabod: not the game, a console you can type commands in see "Applications->Accesories->Terminal"04:58
CaptainMorganclientside04:58
bur[n] erCaptainMorgan: get official wine repositories to get the latest version04:59
ArrenLexCaptain: wine04:59
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CaptainMorganwine seems to be the official word on it, thanks ;)04:59
ichabodnrdb: okay, I have a terminal open, is that what you mean?04:59
ferosspooru: if you do a df -h do you see it mounted anywhere?04:59
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GigaClonthere is a weird compling bug with 3.4 and up so I need to use 3.3 i have all the build essentials and what not04:59
Kenny_72454ello ello04:59
poorufeross: nope04:59
nrdbichabod: yes, now try the command 'ps -A'04:59
adamarrenlex, i'm new to linux and don't get how to use apt-cache to get and install those 3 packages04:59
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poorufeross: only thing mounted (as far as HD's) is /dev/hda105:00
tarmathsegfault: right, I generally dont care either, but I dont like perl at all, and when I saw it wanted to install it, I just couldnt do for it without knowing why... at any rate, thanks for your help05:00
bruenigadam, open up a terminal, applications>accessories>terminal05:00
segfaultadam, apt-get to install pkgs05:00
ArrenLexadam: "apt-cache search" just searches through the repositories for whatever string you specify.05:00
ichabodnrdb: I get PID TTY TIME CMD and 7200 pts/1 00:00:00 ps05:00
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jmerlinsomeone here must know -_-05:00
bruenigsearches the cache you already have05:00
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ArrenLexadam: so if you want a package called bobfred, you would "apt-cache search bobfred" and it would list all the packages with bobfred in name or description.05:00
kitchejmerlin: try top05:00
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ichabodnrdb: just saw the capital A... kk05:00
ArrenLexadam: so when you find the package you want, you "apt-get install <package>" it.05:00
GigaClonany help05:01
PorkkroPDoes XGL work with ATI under ubuntu?05:01
poorufeross: it also says "could not execute pmount" in the File Browser errors05:01
ArrenLexadam: remind me why you're compiling a library you already have again?05:01
ferosspooru: ok hold a sec, there's a site with good instructions.05:01
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pooruthanks05:01
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segfaulttarmath, np05:01
ArrenLexjmerlin: do you mean run like you get in windows when you click start-run? Or something else?05:01
bruenigadam, do sudo apt-get install package, make sure you use sudo05:01
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ArrenLexYes, adam, sudo when you need to do administrative things like installing things.05:02
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rylasasinwhat is the channel again for XGL?05:02
NetslayerI installed edgy, tried "suspend" to power off, it failed and ever since when i restart it hangs for 4 minutes.. please help me fix this "[52]  jumps to [245]  Attempting manual resume  than it goes on to mounting root05:02
rylasasinubuntu xgl that is05:02
ferosspooru:  here it is ... http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=58505:02
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feross!ntfs05:03
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:03
GigaClonanother question how do I get a configure script to generate makefiles that use gcc 3.3?05:03
poorufeross: thanks, i'll go check it out now05:03
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bruenigrylasasin, #ubuntu-xgl05:03
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nrdbichabod: that is a list of every process on your computer, when you want to kill a program you need its number (first column), to limit what you see we can use the 'grep' command to only show some of the list.   try (ps -A | grep 'screen'), you sould only see one line now.05:03
CorpseFeederIs this page not quite right? http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Quake-HOWTO-3.html - It says in the instructions for installing the demo to do "mv Install/Data/baseq2 ." but that just generates a cannot overwrite directory error.05:03
adamkk bruenig, arrenlex, it didn't work when I ran the script they provided on the forum post, so i'm following the manual install instructions. here's the thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19925005:03
ArrenLexGigaClon: ./configure -CC=gcc-3.3 typically. Or else make sure it's the only gcc on your system. Or else make sure /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to /usr/bin/gcc-3.305:03
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bruenigadam, what are you trying to do?05:03
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GigaClonis that for C and C++05:04
ArrenLexichabod: to kill a program just type "killall program" ; don't mess with process numbers.05:04
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ichabodnrdb: okay, cool. So to kill a specific one, you just use the PID number?05:04
nrdbArrenLex: didn't know about that one.05:04
ichabodArrenLex: okay, that makes sense.05:04
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CosmoDadI'm having problems reading PDFs in firefox... it just opens a blank page... can anyone help me (still using breezy)?05:04
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bruenigadam, that looks like fun...05:04
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bruenigCosmoDad, you are using mozilla-acroread?05:04
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CosmoDadbruenig: I've installed that, yes05:05
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ichabodnrdb: So the fact that I get a black screen... any idea there? I tried changing the screen resolution, looked into drivers (useless inquiry, I'm too noobish), and generally sat and wondered a lot.05:05
nrdbichabod: yes that one way of doing it.05:05
CosmoDadbruenig: it used to work before but some time stopped05:05
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noctiis there an app like M$ movie maker? thanks05:05
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linkzerowould anyone happen to know how to get settings on GLSlideshow.  i'm trying to tell it where to get the pics from, but there isn't a settings button05:06
CosmoDadbruenig: any idea?05:06
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bruenigCosmoDad, I hate opening pdfs in the browser, but you might try this as nontechnical and stupid as it may seem. Do sudo apt-get remove mozilla-acroread, and then remove the .adobe directory in your home folder, then reinstall05:06
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nrdbichabod: no idea on the black screen but it is handy to know how to kill without reseting the whole computer.05:06
GigaClonI used the -CXX=gcc-3.3 tag but i can't make anything with the files05:06
Netslayerhere's my pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/190553     shows my edgy system hanging for 4 minutes... ideas?05:06
ichabodnrdb: most definitely! Thanks for that... it'll save me the annoyance of rebooting.05:06
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CosmoDadbruenig: you think .adobe has to do with the FF plugin?05:06
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CorpseFeedersomething is missing from the how-to for installing quake2 demo...  "mv Install/Data/baseq2 ." gives me an error.. what is the command meant to be instead?05:07
nrdbichabod: is there a website for the game ?05:07
ArrenLexback, sorry.05:07
ichabodnrdb: it's a free thingee... there's not a whole lot of support for it.05:07
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bruenigCosmoDad, good point, I am a little messed up today...that wouldn't work anyways. Or at least it wouldn't make any sense to uninstall it05:07
ubuntuim having problems mounting a harddrive with a live cd05:08
CosmoDadbruenig: I'll try it anyway :)05:08
bruenigyou could just delete it and then relaunch it and get the same ffect as that05:08
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holycowhttp://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/19/175923705:08
adamget my stupid Creative Zen Vision: M mp3 player to work on linux! I should have been smarter when i picked an mp3 player and used a UMS one, but I picked the vision: m, which uses MTP (Media Transfer Protocol, i beleive) in the support threads for my mp3 player, it says libmtp adds mtp support to linux and therefor support for my mp3 player. they didn't have much instructions in the support thread, so i searched ubuntu forums and found those ins05:08
adamtructions (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250) and am trying to follow them but keep getting errors...(I think i need a padded room all my own)05:08
CosmoDadbruenig: well, didn't work :(05:08
holycowthat looks usefull for all our friends that are trying to setup dual boot in the wrong order05:08
bur[n] eradam: i've seen reports of it working in Banshee05:08
holycow:)05:08
FaithXI know I should know the answer to this but how do I set system-wide variables?05:08
Tokenbadcrossover seems like it is getting better with its new release soon05:08
ArrenLexadam: but you seem to already have that library installed.05:08
tarmathwell heck, when I go through aptitude, installing the application makes it want to install perl and lots of other stuff, but going directly with apt-get doesnt... im not using aptitude ever again...05:08
bruenigCosmoDad, well the plugin should be in /usr/lib/firefox/05:08
nrdbichabod: have you seen if there is a cannel for it here.  try '/join #<name>' etc.05:08
kitcheadam: it works with banshee I've tested it out05:08
bruenigCosmoDad, well the plugin should be in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins*05:09
kitchetarmath: aptitude follows dependencies05:09
CosmoDadbruenig: seems to be missing...05:09
ichabodnrdb: Okay, I'll do that. Thanks for helping!05:09
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CosmoDadbruenig: there's only one .so unrelated to acrobat05:09
nrdbichabod: ok no problem05:09
tarmathkitche: apt-get doesnt?05:09
CosmoDadbruenig: any idea what I need to link?05:09
nenochkatarmath, that's because aptitude automatically installs needed dependencies05:09
bruenigCosmoDad, perhaps it is in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins05:09
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boris55can I install ubuntu using xfs or jfs?05:10
kitchetarmath: apt-get will just install the program but might not run correctly05:10
adamwell i get this error when I try to start gnomad2: gnomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libmtp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:10
CosmoDadbruenig: yup, there it is: nppdf.so05:10
Netslayershould have stuck with gentoo05:10
adambut hopefully it won't matter cause hopefuly banshee will work05:10
tarmathwow no kidding?05:10
bruenighooray05:10
bruenighopefully it works05:10
ArrenLexkitche: that's FUD. apt-get works just as well as aptitude.05:11
bur[n] erapt-get installs dependencies05:11
CosmoDadbruenig: any further linking necessary?05:11
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proudfoot!edgy05:11
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bruenigArrenLex, his claim is wrong, but apt-get is not the same as aptitude05:11
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bruenigCosmoDad, launch it and see if it works05:11
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CosmoDadbruenig: I've re-launched FF already, doesn't work05:12
tarmathso whats the truth anyway? aptitude installs more packages for sure, why?05:12
epodI have an odd issue.  I apparently (According to the sound properties) have two sound devices, one is aHDA Nvidia (Alsa Mixer) and the other is SigmaTEL STAC9200 (OSS Mixer).  Both are unmuted, appear to be detected fine, and respond to my keyboard volume keys if I watch the volume bar.  Yet no sound is emitted, and in fact I only have one sound device ( a Sigmatel High Def audio Codec according to Windows)05:12
ArrenLexbruenig: no, apt-get is not the same as aptitude, but it works just as well. It's just not GUI. Different strokes...05:12
bruenigCosmoDad, hmmm, and pdfs work outside of ff?05:12
kitcheArrenLex: yes it does I m just saying if it doesn't pull down the needed dependencies then the app won't work like it's suppose to05:12
CosmoDadbruenig: yes05:12
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bruenigArrenLex, apt-get is not gui, apt-get doesn't track dependencies, aptitude does05:12
ArrenLexkitche: apt-get will get all the dependencies you need.05:12
bruenigCosmoDad, go into firefox and type about:plugins in the address bar05:13
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kitcheArrenLex: is that why tarmath says it's not pulling all the software like aptitude does?05:13
ArrenLexbruenig:define "track dependencies"05:13
ferossepod: tried alsamixer and nothing mutted?05:13
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tarmathim saying aptitude is pulling stuff I dont want/need05:13
epodfeross, yep.. nothing muted.05:13
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bruenigArrenLex, as in when you do aptitude remove, it removes all the dependencies it installed with it so that they don't float around on your disk uselessly05:13
tarmathbut apt-get definitively pulls out dependencies...05:14
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adamhow do i get banshee to recognize my mp3 player (Creative Zen vision: M)?05:14
ryanmci cant seem to mount a hard drive while running from a live cd any hints....05:14
bur[n] eradam: it just does?  /me shrugs05:14
CosmoDadbruenig: there's an Adobe 7.0 entry05:14
jester45could someone please help me with setting up my HP deskjet 712c printer05:14
HTGN-css|Silent_Hey guys. I reinstalled Windows and it killed grub. I tried reinstalling grub by chrooting to my linux partition from live, but I can't grub-install because /dev/sda dissappears after I chroot. What must I do?05:14
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bur[n] erkitche: how'd you get your zen to work with banshee?05:14
bruenigCosmoDad, well it sees it, don't know what else there is to do05:14
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ArrenLexbruenig: ah, yes, that's correct. However, what kitche was saying is that if you try to install a new program with apt-get, it won't fetch all the dependencies it needs and the program won't be runnable, which is BS and FUD.05:14
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Netslayeris there a channel for non newbs?05:15
kitchebur[n] er don't own a zen lol but I tested it you just plug it in :P05:15
bruenigArrenLex, yeah, that is why I said, he was wrong but that to say they are the same is wrong, even if they are essentially the same for his purpose05:15
bur[n] erNetslayer: if you know of one, let me know ;)05:15
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nrdbanyone here had experience with the Linux Media Labs cards?05:15
CorpseFeederis there a channel for getting quake2 to work?05:15
adamok i opened banshee and plugged in my Zen and nothing happened.05:15
bur[n] erlol05:15
ArrenLexbruenig: I never said they were the same! I said, and I quote: kitche: that's FUD. apt-get works just as well as aptitude.05:15
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bur[n] eradam: sorry man, not sure, you could check the banshee website05:16
ArrenLexburenig: Maybe I interpreted wrong, but to me, "just as well" != "in exactly the same manner as".05:16
rylasasinI need both compiz and xgl right?05:16
CosmoDadbruenig: ok thanks05:16
bruenigright, I suppose interpretation comes into play here which ultimately you have the last word on because you said it. It seemd as if you were saying the same05:16
Netslayerhow about an edgy channel?05:16
bur[n] errylasasin: beryl > compiz05:16
epodNetslayer, #ubuntu+105:16
kitcheArrenLex: wow guess you didn't read what I wrote I said it doesn't pull the dependencies when you uninstall05:16
adamremember it's a Zen Vision: M not a Nomad or other creative player. there seems to be more problems with the Vision:  M05:16
bruenigNetslayer, #ubuntu+105:16
ArrenLexbruenig: I assure you I'm perfectly aware they're different programs.05:16
bur[n] eradam: i've only used a zen sleek :\05:16
HTGN-css|Silent_anyone?05:17
ArrenLex(21:09:43) kitche: tarmath: aptitude follows dependencies && (21:10:36) kitche: tarmath: apt-get will just install the program but might not run correctly05:17
bur[n] eradam: try the banshee site though, i swear i read something, might be in latest version05:17
ArrenLexKitche: seems to me like you were saying apt-get doesn't work. :P05:17
ArrenLexMaybe that's just, you know, ME...05:17
bruenigArrenLex, I figured you did know they were different, just that you may be dumbing stuff down for a noob, which is never good05:17
ferossHTGN-css|Silent_: what?05:18
HTGN-css|Silent_Hey guys. I reinstalled Windows and it killed grub. I tried reinstalling grub by chrooting to my linux partition from live, but I can't grub-install because /dev/sda dissappears after I chroot. What must I do?05:18
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ArrenLexbruenig: no, no, I never attempted to convey the impression that they were THE SAME, merely that if you apt-get install foobar, you will get foobar; and that if you aptitude install foobar, you will get foobar.05:18
tarmathbruenig: so the fact that aptitude makes me install more packages than apt-get means what exactly? im figuring there's either 2 possibilities: 1) apt-get doesnt grab all dependencies and programs might break when installed with it. 2) aptitude makes me install more packages than necessary...05:18
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ferossHTGN-css|Silent_: that doesn't make sense. /dev/sda dissappears? tried it without chroot?05:19
bruenigtarmath, aptitude doesn't make you install more. At least in the comparisons I have done, they are always the same. I don't usually compare though, it may be that aptitude is actually installing all suggested packages along with the necessary packages whereas apt-get only installs necessary. That is just a guess though.05:19
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HTGN-css|Silent_it says it cant access /proc/something05:20
rylasasinhow do I get beryl?05:20
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harisundHello! I have eth0 and eth1, and both are DHCP clients. Now when I do apt-get update, how do I know which of the two is being used? How do I force internet access through eth0 or eth1?05:20
rylasasinits not in the packages menu05:20
CosmoDadbruenig: well I fixed it... there's a forum entry that deals with the issue05:20
kitcheHTGN-css|Silent_: you have to mount /proc also05:20
bruenigCosmoDad, what was the answer?05:20
HTGN-css|Silent_in fdisk -l there are no sda partitions05:20
CosmoDadbruenig: you have to overwrite the nppdf.so which is located in /usr/lib/Adobe/... with one from an official tarball05:20
tarmathbruenig, ArrenLex, kitche: thanks for your help...05:20
jester45i have a problem with my printer when i try to print it says that is cant get Deskjet 712c setup in CUPS can anyone please help05:21
ferossbrb05:21
HTGN-css|Silent_brb, trying again05:21
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kitcheharisund: disable the one you don't want to use by ifdown eth1 or eth0 or setup iptables correctly05:21
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adamwhat does banshee usually do when it recognizes a mp3 player?05:23
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kitcheharisund: such as force the internet though one of the eth devices05:23
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ellioTbman, that KDE is still installin on here05:23
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lnostdali recently upgraded to edgy-beta - and i miss having 4 desktops as opposed to only having 2 like now -- any way to configure this?05:23
halex!edgy05:23
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bur[n] erinimesekene: definately... and i'll tell you in #ubuntu+105:23
harisundkitche, hmm... no iptables involved... (or should there be?).. see, eth0 has 192.168.10.2 (gw 192.168.10.1) and eth1 has 192.168.20.2 (gw 192.168.20.1) and I login from both subnets.. so I can't block anything through iptables05:23
Soekisan!schedule05:23
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:23
Soekisanoctober?05:24
Madpilotlnostdal, right-click on the desktop switcher, choose Preferences, pick how many desktops you want to have (I have eight, myself...)05:24
ellioTb!schedule05:24
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:24
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jmerlinanyone here ever install XPde?05:24
ArrenLex!schedule05:24
FlannelSoekisan: right, october.  6.10 (2006, 10th month)05:24
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kitcheharisund: well then you won't be able to tell which one is used anyways but probably by defaul eth0 is your internet05:24
ArrenLexjmerlin: I did, once. It was terrible. Don't use it. If you want XP, use XP.05:25
poorufeross: hey thanks a lot, it worked05:25
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jmerlinArrenLex, it's not for me05:25
jmerlinbut anyway05:25
jmerlinafter running through the setup05:25
kitcheharisund: you can check in the networking part what's your main network card05:25
SuperMigueldoes any one know any linux that i can boot from an usb drive05:25
jmerlinit tells me that i need to add the lines in xinitircDEFAULT to my system05:25
adamBANSHEE: what does it usually do when it recognises a mp3 player?05:25
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jmerlinwhere do i add those to use it?05:25
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ArrenLexjmerlin: whoever it's for; if you want a desktop that's easy for a windows user to use but still powerful and complete, use KDE.05:25
jester45SuperMiguel: damnsmalllinux will05:26
SuperMigueli wont boot :(05:26
SuperMiguelit*05:26
jmerlini'm trying out options05:26
kitcheadam: it should say if the mp3 player is mounted in Options05:26
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jmerlinhow do i get it to run?05:26
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harisundkitche: sorry no GUI .. I am thinking it has something to do with the default gw in the output of the route command?05:26
jwhitlarkhas anyone ever attended a ubuntu developer summit?  Next one is near me and I want to know if it's worth going.05:26
ArrenLexjmerlin: xinitrc is in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc for the whole system and in ~/.xinitrc for you.05:26
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dailamanickv111, i have another question05:26
kitcheharisund: yes whatever is default is what your network runs though05:27
dailamado you mind?05:27
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ellioTbholy hell this laptop is hot in my lap05:27
dailamahow do you open an executable file in linux ?05:27
Madpilotjwhitlark, they're not really public confrences in the exhibits & speakers type sense (although they're public in the anyone-can-show-up sense)05:27
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ArrenLexdailama: if you have permissions to execute it, just ./<file> from the command line or double-click on it from Nautilus.05:27
ellioTbjwhitlark, you might not be dork enough in real life to get in, lol05:28
ellioTbj/k05:28
kitchedailama: also with .exe you need wine to run it05:28
viatori guess yours is a notebook not a lpatop05:28
viatorlol05:28
dailamaArrenLex, I would like to open the file to see how it was written05:28
ellioTberr dorky05:28
jwhitlarkI don't know about that, I'm a sysadmin ;P05:28
jmerlinArrenLex, read your PM05:28
ellioTbviator, whatever you call it, hot as hell05:28
adambur[n] er: here's what you read: Banshee developers are also working on two other types:    * Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) a.k.a. PlaysForSure(tm) devices05:28
ellioTbjwhitlark, you pass!05:28
ArrenLexI totally read "viator" as "vibrator" o_o05:28
dailamaArrenLex, For instance...I would like to open the program tilda or grep or similar05:28
viatorhah05:28
jwhitlarkellioTb: tnks!05:29
ladydoordailama: you just type grep05:29
viatorlatin05:29
ArrenLexdailama: open what file?05:29
ellioTbjwhitlark, thats actually the secret password to get in05:29
dailamanot the program, the file05:29
ladydoordailama: you don't "open" grep.05:29
kitchedailama: you need the source code to do that05:29
dailamai want to see what its doing05:29
ArrenLexjmerlin: I have no PM.05:29
dailamaisn't this linux05:29
dailamaopen source?05:29
adambur[n] er?05:29
ArrenLexdailama: the source code?05:29
dailamaArrenLex: yes05:29
ArrenLexdailama: yes, but the source code is separate -- you can't EXECUTE source. :P05:29
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cl187i gots a question05:29
jwhitlarkellioTb, I can't just show up w/ a pocket protector?05:30
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jmerlinso i rename that DEFAULT file to .xinitre ?05:30
cl187my wireless sees networks05:30
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jmerlinin my home05:30
cl187i put in my key05:30
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jmerlinand reboot05:30
ellioTbjwhitlark, yes, or a shirt with a commodore on it05:30
cl187but network fails05:30
tarmathbruenig, ArrenLex, kitche: as an epilogue sort-of note, i just want to let you guys know I found out aptitude also installs "recommended" packages, and not only dependencies...05:30
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ellioTbi can't even spell that05:30
ArrenLexdailama: google for the grep sources is the best idea. Else you'd have to go through ubuntu source packages.05:30
jmerlinand after i try that, how do i run KDE?05:30
viatoryou can look at and  change the source05:30
ladydoordailama: just because it's free software doesn't mean you have the magical ability to read binary. you need to look at the source code used to create the binary.05:30
jwhitlarkor an amiga...05:30
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ArrenLextarmath: yes, I suspected. I myself never use it.05:30
viatorand then compile and execute05:30
dailamaladydoor: I can understand that now...05:30
ArrenLexjmerlin: do you mean, how do you INSTALL kde?05:30
dailamaladydoor: I do believe I have been pointed in the right direction05:30
ellioTbjwhitlark, lol, or any sort of star wars paraphernalia05:30
jmerlinArrenLex, how do i get it to run?05:31
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ellioTbjmerlin, mine is installing it right now05:31
ellioTbjmerlin, what are you in right now?05:31
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jmerlingnome05:31
bur[n] eradam: got me senor :\05:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: do you have it installed? If so, just run "exec startkde" from the terminal.05:31
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ellioTbjmerlin, press control + alt + backspace05:31
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ellioTbthat will take you to login05:31
jwhitlarkTREK! TREK!05:31
ellioTbthen click on options05:31
cl187!wireless05:32
ellioTbthen go to "sessions"05:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:32
ArrenLexjmerlin: if you've got a display manager, log out and log in as KDE.05:32
ellioTband change it to "KDE"05:32
asdfasdfalright, so I chrooted to my mounted linux partition and mounted proc and tried to grub-install sda and I get /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device05:32
jwhitlarkI'm actually downloading battlestar gal. at the moment, tho.05:32
jmerlink i'll try05:32
ellioTbjwhitlark, the secret handshake to get in is the spock thing05:32
asdfasdffdisk -l returns absolutely nothing05:32
jwhitlarklol05:32
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ArrenLexasdfasdf: sudo fdisk -l05:32
asdfasdfI am root05:33
adamdang i wonder how long it will take them? how long has MTP devices been around? it sure does take a while to implement stupid protocols microsoft makes up for no reason when UMS works just as well or better.05:33
asdfasdfsudo su05:33
pooruasdfasdf: use" sudo fdisk -l05:33
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ellioTbyou are on irc as root? isn't that dangerous05:33
ellioTbor is that old school05:33
ArrenLexasdf: you can't combine sudo and su.05:33
asdfasdfI could care less ellio, I just want this to work05:33
ArrenLexasdf: it's impossible to sudo su.05:33
ellioTblast time i was in linux before this ubuntu install was back in the day05:33
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ellioTbasdfasdf, i know, no hackers here cept jwhitlark05:33
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jwhitlarkArrenLex, no it's not, I do it all the time.05:33
ArrenLexadsf: no, wait, it may not be impossible. But don't.05:34
kyjauh oh/.!! I need help.05:34
ArrenLexOkay, well, there you go.05:34
ArrenLex!ask05:34
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:34
siviki need help getting connected with minicom05:34
asdfasdfanyway, fdisk -l returns nothing as root05:34
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asdfasdfhow do I "scan" for my partitions?05:34
ellioTbonly 866 people in here, weak05:34
ArrenLexasdf: what happens if you go back to normal user and run sudo fdisk -l?05:34
ellioTbasdfasdf, what about the partition manager, thats a real easy way to see05:34
holycowfdisk -l05:35
asdfasdfgood idea05:35
ArrenLexasdf: if that doesn't work, try /proc/partitions05:35
ArrenLexi.e. "cat /proc/partitions:05:35
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ArrenLexi.e. "cat /proc/partitions"05:35
kyjadurring install after updating to edgy it could not move a folder in x11 so it stopped all installs prematurily. now I dont know how to continue the upgrade. I manualy moved the folder it needed moved.05:35
jwhitlarkuse df (disk free) to see your mounted partitions.05:35
ellioTbkyja, i think they want you to ask that in #ubuntu+105:35
kyjaah05:35
ArrenLexkyja: apt-get -f install05:35
ellioTbi dunno, but you might get better results in there05:35
kitcheto see mounted partitions it's mount05:36
kyjathx I try05:36
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ArrenLexellioTb: I don't think so. Her question is a generic one about interrupted upgrades.05:36
valehruHey guys, I'm getting the following error with my phpmyadmin installation: extension=mysql.so05:36
valehruCannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration.05:36
SuperMiguelhow can i write and read to my usb drive05:36
ellioTboh ok, perfecto, is there a lot of good new stuff in edgy?05:36
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Languiddoes anyone know how to stop firefox from crashing when05:37
Languidwhoops sorry05:37
adamOMG!!!! something happened!! my mp3 player says it's connected to the comp!! there's hope yet!!05:37
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jwhitlarkasdf, did those things help (mount/df)05:37
sivikadam: what kind of mp3 player?05:37
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ellioTbi have a dell jukebox i wanna get connected sometime when i am not so lazy05:37
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ferossSuperMiguel: usually it pops up on your desktop and you can doubleclick to open/read/write05:38
asdfasdfhmm... I can get the partitions to show up in fdisk, but when I chroot to my linux partition I get a root commandline05:38
sg2knixtech - sorry i asked earlier but then got distracted.  To install codecs for ubuntu you recommended easy ubuntu but easy ubuntu doesn't work for me05:38
adamCreative Zen Vision: M05:38
sg2neither is automatix working for me05:38
ellioTboh my god! KDE is done, be back later05:38
sg2any other ideas?05:38
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sivikadam: are you using gnomad>=2.8.5?05:38
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siviki need some help getting minicom to get into my router05:38
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sivik!router05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
sivik!cisco05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cisco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
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ArrenLexsg2: I can help you, hold on...05:39
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jmerlinit says all i have installed is GNOME05:40
asdfasdfI'm getting bash: /proc/partitions: Permission denied as root... ??05:40
SuperMiguelthe only linux that can stand on windows is dsl?05:40
jmerlinwhere do i get the other one?05:40
asdfasdfDSL embedded runs slow05:40
PleceboI'm having trouble connecting my laptop's wireless card to my wap network. I only see wep connection settings... can anyone help me out.05:40
kitcheasdfasdf: you chrooted into your systen?05:40
ferossSuperMiguel: cygwin works well05:40
asdfasdfyep05:40
adami'm not sure, how do i check? but when I try opening gnomad2 by typing gnomad2 in the terminal, i get this error: gnomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libmtp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:40
SuperMiguelcygwin is hard :S05:40
SuperMigueli dont understand it05:41
kitcheasdfasdf: you have to mount /proc also to <mountpoint>/proc05:41
sivikadam: did you install gnomad2 from apt-get?05:41
asdfasdfI typed mount /proc and it accepted the command05:41
asdfasdfwhere should I put it?05:41
ferossPlecebo: fdalmoro.blogspot.com look at the mini wpa howto05:41
tonyyarusso!wpa05:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:41
jwhitlarkcygwin is great, but it's a little different, and that causes a number of probs.  I'd rather just use linux.05:41
tonyyarussoPlecebo: ^^05:41
Plecebofeross,  thanks i'll check that out05:41
SuperMiguelany other embedded linux?05:41
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kitcheasdfasdf: you have to mount proc to your system that you are chrooting into05:42
adamidk i've been trying tons of different stuff people have been telling me, but I think yes the last time i tried to install gnomad2 it was from apt-get05:42
jwhitlark!serial05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
ferossSuperMiguel: well, you could always run ubuntu on a spare pc and ssh into it :) or vnc to it.05:42
kitche!proc > asdfasdf05:43
SuperMiguelumm05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about proc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:43
jmerlinwhat are some other windows-like desktop enviroments05:43
SuperMigueli dont want to have my computer always on05:43
jmerlinand how do i install KDE?05:43
kitchehmmmmm oh well I don't feel like searching the gentoo docs right now for the right mount command05:43
viatordoes networkmanager work "out of the box" with edgy05:43
ArrenLexjmerlin: apt-get install kde-core kdebase :P05:43
ArrenLexexcept that :P05:43
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halexviator: no, it doesn't..05:43
asdfasdfjmerlin, use synaptic package manager05:43
viatoror is it not even installed by default as in dapper05:43
ArrenLexsg2: download the package http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb05:43
ArrenLexsg2: install it using dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb05:44
jmerlinwell.. are there any skins for it to make it look like win XP?05:44
SuperMigueljmerlin05:44
jmerlinwhat?05:44
ArrenLexjmerlin: yes. Why do you want them?05:44
SuperMiguelyou can use candy eye05:44
sg2arrenlex: should i use the wget command or can i just download it05:44
feross!easyubuntu > sg205:44
jmerlinbecause it's for an organization i work for05:44
viatorxp skins :|05:44
jmerlinthey ask i give, that's what i'm paid for.05:44
viatorlol05:45
jmerlini don't ask questions05:45
ArrenLexsg2: whatever is more comfortable for you, as long as it ends up on your hard drive.05:45
Plecebofeross,  from the guide "Point it to lo and then remove it from the panel." do they mean the network manager or the gnome-network stuff?05:45
jmerlinthey want the desktop to be censored midget porn, i'll put it on there05:45
ferossPlecebo: the gnome-network stuff05:45
Plecebofeross, thanks05:45
SuperMigueltell merlin about !gdesjets05:45
sg2awesome, thanks alot!05:45
Madpilotjmerlin, check gnome-look.org05:45
SuperMiguel!gdeskjets05:45
ArrenLexjmerlin: www.kde-look.org might have some suggestions05:45
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gdeskjets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
jmerlinis KDE better than gnome?05:45
SuperMiguelfaster05:46
ArrenLexjmerlin: YES! :P05:46
SuperMiguelnot better05:46
viatorjmerlin matter of opinion05:46
ArrenLexjmerlin: no.05:46
jmerlincan i remove gnome from ubuntu? :o05:46
jmerlinlol05:46
ArrenLexjmerlin: different strokes from different folks.05:46
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ArrenLexjmerlin: yes! :O05:46
SeanTaterI want to compile a program (workFlow, not in repos), but it needx X includes, how might I install them?05:46
ferossPlecebo: I wrote that BTW.. I'll make that clear when I update05:46
ArrenLexI have.05:46
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Madpilotjmerlin, you could, but why would you? ;)05:46
jmerlini thought you couldn't..05:46
asdfasdfkitche, whenever I sudo chroot it makes me root. If I exit out of root to user, the root is defaulted05:46
ArrenLexSean: apt-get install xlibs-dev05:46
jmerlinbecause i might like KDE better05:46
SeanTaterArrenLex: thanks!05:46
SuperMiguel:)05:46
ArrenLexMadpilot: because KDE owns you.05:46
jmerlinand not want to keep gnome on there for harddrive purposes05:46
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SuperMigueli have a quiack and hard question05:46
ArrenLexQuick and hard? =O05:46
SuperMiguelhow do i burn an iso file to an usb drive?05:47
viatorinstall kde and remove gnome05:47
asdfasdfsynaptic does all the work for you05:47
kitcheasdfasdf: well you have to mount /proc that's your problem it doesn't get automounted for the system that your chrooting into05:47
ArrenLexSuper: you don't "burn" anything to a USB drive. Not without actual fire. You can extract the files on the ISO to the drive. Do you want that?05:47
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SuperMiguelkind of05:47
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jwhitlarkyou can write an iso to a usb drive.05:47
highnekoHello. Is there a way to turn off tooltips?05:47
ellioTbalright, in that kde now, kind of feelin it05:47
SuperMiguelnever05:47
SuperMiguelmind05:48
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asdfasdfkitche, which proc am I mounting, the one on my chrooted partition or on the live cd?05:48
ferossSuperMiguel probably want to make it bootable05:48
SuperMiguelit was easier that i trought05:48
ArrenLexelliot: isn't it magic? :D Play with the settings, I find defaults annoying.05:48
SuperMiguelfeross05:48
SuperMiguelhow do i make it bootable05:48
jwhitlarkthat's a pain in the ****05:48
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jwhitlarkmaking usb bootable.05:48
ellioTbArrenLex, which settings first? i think i need another style too05:48
ellioTberr theme05:48
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jwhitlarkat least it was the last time I did it ~6mo.05:48
ninwaArrenLex: If you were curious, I think I got it installed. OpenGL support seems to be there, but it's slower than what I was getting with Dapper's drivers, is that normal?05:48
ferossSuperMiguel: rumor has it that DSL has a whole HOWTO on it :P05:48
ellioTbdoes openoffice take 10 years to open for anyone else?05:49
ellioTbits like my WM benchmark05:49
SuperMiguelthey sell it05:49
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jwhitlarkno, only about 8 years.05:49
sivikellioTb, not me05:49
jmerlinellioTb, no05:49
jmerlinabout 2 seconds for me05:49
viatorkde is more easily configured to your liking05:49
SuperMiguelbut dont explain05:49
ArrenLexninwa: no, it's not normal. What's the output of  glxinfo | grep renderer05:49
asdfasdfI have a 128 mb usb I made bootable, but its a live cd boot and thats not good enough for me. I was planning on getting a debian install on my 512 stick tonight, but I'll probably have to do it tomorrow05:49
sivikminicom, i need some help getting it to connect, i have already done a setup and nothing ever happens05:49
ellioTbwierd, i dunno whats wrong, this isn't that slow of a notebook, and everything takes forever05:49
highnekoI'm using Ubuntu gnome, and there tooltips are really ****ing anoying! Can someone please help. I tryed google, and read alot.05:49
ArrenLexelliot: hell yes. It's like photoshop.05:49
ninwaArrenLex: OpenGL rendere string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic05:49
viatorgood luck getting debian on 512 mb05:50
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jwhitlarksivik, minicom was no easy to use, when I tried.05:50
asdfasdfits been done on 25605:50
SuperMiguelasdfasdf: if you use a flash drive as a hard drive will that not blow your flash drive?05:50
ferossSuperMiguel: really? I think if you burn DSL to a cd, boot, then in the DSL panel there's an 'Install to USB' thing... hmm you should try the DSL room05:50
jwhitlarknot05:50
Flannelviator: er, what?  I'm running debian on 40mb.05:50
ellioTbArrenLex, whats like photoshop05:50
ArrenLexninwa: ....weird.05:50
ninwaI'll be honest, I don't know really anything about this, but I remember something about DRI being important once-apon-atime setting these drivers up, and when I grep DRI nothing shows up.05:50
asdfasdfMiguel, I guess I'll find out :) I'm not swapping on it anyway05:50
ArrenLexelliotTB: openoffice opening:photoshop opening:glacier melting05:50
viatoryeah and dsl fits in 50 mb'05:50
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asdfasdfI run dsl on the 12805:51
viatorbut isnt as useful to me05:51
ellioTblol, seems like most apps take a while to load, then work fine05:51
asdfasdfviator, try slax05:51
jwhitlarkMy big problem with minicom was getting the hardware to work right.05:51
ellioTbprolly cause i only have 256megs of ram on here05:51
ArrenLexninwa: DRI is in your xorg.conf. If you're rendering with RADEON 9800, you have DRI on.05:51
sivikjwhitlark, did you ever fix it05:51
SuperMiguelfeross i tryed that but it didnt boot:(05:51
jwhitlarkno.05:51
jwhitlarksorry.05:51
ArrenLexelliot: yeah, that would be why.05:51
Flannelhighneko: gconftool-2 --set /apps/panel/global/tooltips_enabled --type=boolean false05:51
Nightboatthis is plecebo, I'm still not able to connect, my wireless device is not even showing in network manager05:51
ArrenLexelliot: had 256 ram on my old machine. It took firefox ten seconds to open. I was like *weeps* every time.05:51
highnekoFlannel: Ok, thank you.05:52
Flannelhighneko: you can do the same thing with gconfeditor, just having to browse to that entry05:52
ellioTbarren, but the comp was free, so i can't complain too much, its a p4m 2.2ghz05:52
ferossSuperMiguel: hm, there is also an "Install" boot option. Press F2 or F3, should be there.05:52
jwhitlarksivik, make sure your bios is set right, first.  otherwise you'll be wasting time.05:52
ArrenLexAh.05:52
ArrenLexAnything free is passable! :D05:52
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sivikjwhitlark, what does the bios need to say?05:52
highnekoFlannel: I'm pretty new to gnome. Never heard of gconfeditor before!05:52
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viatorgconfeditor is like windows05:53
jwhitlarkdepends on your bios, but it can block the serial console.  I'm looking for the howto I used... just a sec.05:53
viatorregistry05:53
Flannelhighneko: I don't believe it's installed by default on Dapper, configuration editor, I think.  you might need to apt-get it05:53
viatorregedit05:53
sivikjwhitlark, ok, wouldn't the bios cause it not to work in windows?05:53
viatorhaha05:53
highnekoI just tryed apt-get05:53
asdfasdfkitche, I am root on the chroot, proc says its mounted and I'm getting /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device. on grub-install05:53
highneko"Couldn't find package gconfeditor"05:53
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jwhitlarkyes.  I didn't know you'd run it already under windows.05:54
highnekoI have universe and multi.05:54
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Flannelhighneko: let me get you the real name of hte package05:54
poningruhighneko: its gconf-editor05:54
sivikjwhitlark, i checked to make sure05:54
highnekoAh, that's it. Thanks again! :)05:54
jwhitlarksivik, try http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/05:54
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jwhitlarkmy problem was a hdware one, but that seemed like a very good howto.05:55
squeeanyone running beryl + amd64?05:55
ArrenLexasdf: what if you run "grub-install (hd0,0)05:55
ellioTbnow i feel turned around in KDE, just got comfortable in gnome05:55
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TheFakeJoni am trying to install bochs and it keeps complaining about me not having the X GUI Library files05:56
ArrenLexellioTb: don't worry, it's really quite magical. I run KDE; if you need help I'd love to help you!05:56
asdfasdfbash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0,0'05:56
TheFakeJonhow would I go about getting htat05:56
ellioTbholy hell KDE came with a lot of programs05:56
jwhitlarkellioTb, why did you feel the need to switch?05:56
viatormake kde look and function like gnome then05:56
ArrenLexasdf: grub-install (hd0)?05:56
viatorlol05:56
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ellioTbjwhitlark, i just want to check em all out05:56
asdfasdfbash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0'05:56
ellioTbso i can see which one i want to stick with05:56
jwhitlarkellioTb, that's what live CD's are for.05:57
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ArrenLexgrub-install hd0 ? xD05:57
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sg2arrenlex: hey i installed the codecs... but i can only get .avi's to play in vlc which i think already could(?). anyways, is there something else i need to do?05:57
Flanneljwhitlark: nothing wrong with having both/all three installed05:57
dec2binhello, does anyone know which library do i need to install to get module.h?05:57
Flanneldec2bin: do you have build-essential yet?05:57
asdfasdf /dev/sda3: Not found or not a block device.05:57
ArrenLexsg2: what happens when you try to play, for example, a .wmv file?05:57
adamok here's what's going on now: to get my mp3 player to say it's "Docked" I have to open terminal and type mtp-detect. but even then, none of my installed jueboxes/media players recognize my mp3 player and allow me to transfer/set up sync options with it.05:57
jwhitlarknah, but it takes time away from the shell.05:57
dec2biner.. that's a pointer, i'll check Flannel05:57
ellioTbjwhitlark, yeah, already had gnome installed, figured i would check out xfce, fluxbox, kde, etc05:57
ellioTbthen just remove the ones i don't want05:57
dec2bin:)05:57
TheFakeJonhow can I use synaptic to get the X window Library?05:58
adameven Gnomad2 doesn't realize it's  there05:58
jwhitlarkellioTb, icewm works well for me when I need something lightweight.05:58
ellioTbfaster download to install KDE than download the kubuntu live cd05:58
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sivikhow do i see if my serial port is working correctly?05:58
ellioTbjwhitlark, i am gonna have to check it out, fluxbox was a lil to minimal for me if you know what i mean05:58
viatormplayers ugly but ut works with 99% of the files i try05:58
=== ArrenLex smacks ellioTb. Of course KDE comes with a lot of programs!! That's why you always install kde-core rather than the full kde, and then add what you want!
ellioTbsince i need more ram, fluxbox was fast05:58
sivik!serial05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
ellioTbarren, well i am an idiot, cause now i have a million things05:59
asdfasdfarren, any ideas?05:59
jwhitlarksivik, you're trying to connect to a cisco router, right?05:59
jwhitlarkor to another machine?05:59
asdfasdfwhen I sudo chroot it auto-roots me and I cant see the partitions. when I exit I can see the partitions but I cant chroot05:59
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ArrenLexvialtor: mplayer is not ugly! It is skinnable!05:59
ellioTbArrenLex, how big is kde-core05:59
sivikjwhitlark, yes, 250006:00
ellioTbArrenLex, cause now i am lost cause i have 1,000 apps on here06:00
viatorits default is06:00
sivikwell, 251406:00
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viatorthats just my opinion06:00
ArrenLexelliot: not big. It's just the files you need to run KDE itself. Not all the apps that come with it.06:00
ellioTboh man, i wish some1 would have told me that earlier06:00
ellioTbthey said in here just to apt-get install kde06:00
jwhitlarksivik, if you've connected in windows, you should know the settings, right?06:00
ellioTblol, 3 hours later i have every app ever made seems like06:00
ArrenLexelliot: "kde" is a metapackage that installs "kde and everything associated with it"06:01
jwhitlarkspeed, parity, etc.06:01
kyjawell, I am screwed.06:01
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dec2binFlannel: I apt-got that and it compiled but i get these nice errors: .. redefinition of 'struct timespec'... etc..06:01
ArrenLexelliot: did you make a note of which packages it installed? Can you backtrack?06:01
adamArrenLex: hey thanks for all the help. my mp3 player now says it's connected to the comp, but none of the linux music players realize it's there06:01
adamwe made progress! hooray106:01
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adam!!06:01
dec2binit's a simple hello world module06:01
viatoryeah just purge remove kde06:01
ellioTbArrenLex, it installed a million packages, and i didn't take note of all of them, DOH06:02
sivikjwhitlark, yes06:02
ArrenLexviator: that won't work. Again, kde is a metapackage. Nothing depends on it.06:02
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sivikjwhitlark, i do it at school at least twice a week06:02
TheFakeJonwhat are the x windows libraries ? and where can I find them?06:02
ArrenLexelliot: what did you use to install them all? apt-get?06:02
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ellioTbwhen i did apt-get kde, it got them all automatically06:02
jwhitlarksivik, just a sec, I'm downlaoding minicom to take a look.06:03
ArrenLexelliot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002 will that help?06:03
asdfasdfoh gawd... I'm gonna have to reinstall linux06:03
sivikjwhitlark, thanks06:03
sg2arrenlex: same error, i don't have the decoder isntalled06:03
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asdfasdfall because of a bootloader06:03
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dec2binanyone know why i get this nice error: /module.h:41: error: field 'attr' has incomplete type06:04
ArrenLexsg2: does VLC have a place where you can configure where it looks for codecs? If so, point it to /usr/lib/win3206:04
dec2binwith a whole buncha error06:04
dec2bin*s06:04
viatordo apt-cache show kde06:04
viatorit shows all the dependencies06:04
sg2arrenlex: dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb was the last line when i installed it06:04
viatorbut not everything it instslls06:04
ellioTbArrenLex, can i just do a remove kde06:04
ArrenLexviator: those dependencies have their own dependencies have their own dependenices.06:04
ArrenLexelliot: no, it won't work.06:04
ellioTbArrenLex, cause there is way too much stuff on here now06:04
ellioTboh nooooo06:04
ArrenLexelliot: how about that guide?06:05
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ellioTbthat just says how to install kde easy06:05
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sg2arrenlex: sorry for being unclear, vlc does work but other video players don't, should i see if the other videoplayers have an option like that?06:05
ellioTbwith an apt-install kubuntu-desktop06:05
jwhitlarksivik, Ctrl-A Z, then the settings are in o, should be it.06:05
ArrenLexelliot: read all of it!  Look at the section "to have pure..."06:05
ellioTboh ok06:05
sivikjwhitlark, yes, thats where i'm trying to get it to work06:05
crimsunsg2: / ArrenLex: vlc in dapper and edgy is not compiled with loader or win32 support06:05
ArrenLexhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php06:05
ArrenLex(@elliot)06:06
ArrenLexcrimsun: ah, I didn't know that. I see.06:06
adamArrenLex: yo thanks for the help. we made progress. my mp3 player now says it's connected to something intead of just charging like it's on AC power06:06
asdfasdfis there any way I can reinstall grub on /dev/sda without reinstalling linux that will work?06:06
ArrenLexsg2: personally I always recommend mplayer. It plays anything!06:06
ArrenLexadam: I didn't really help much xD06:06
TheFakeJonwhat are the x windows libraries ? and where can I find them?06:06
ArrenLexasdf: yes. But how is another matter.06:06
ArrenLexasdf: have you googled?06:07
ArrenLexTheFakeJon: are you compiling?06:07
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sg2arrenlex: yeah i mean i can play all videos in vlc, just not universally06:07
TheFakeJonArrenLex yes06:07
asdfasdfArren, I have googled many times06:07
ArrenLexTheFakeKon: apt-get install xlibs-dev06:07
ArrenLexKon -> Jon06:07
TheFakeJonArrenLex in the configure script it is asking for x windows Libraries06:07
ellioTbArrenLex, i don't think so, that removes KDE if you had kubuntu06:07
jwhitlarksivik, Ctrl-A p for params, the cycle it.  That's as far as I'v gotten.06:07
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jwhitlarksorry,06:07
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ellioTbso sad, i just want to remove all that crap that comes with the kde package06:08
ArrenLexellioTb: kubuntu is just ubuntu plus kde packages minus gnome packages =P it will still work.06:08
jwhitlarkDinner's ready, see ya'll later...06:08
sivikjwhitlark, just did that06:08
ellioTbwon't the package manager deselect all the stuff that installed when i did apt-get kde06:08
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ArrenLexellioTb: run the top command on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php06:08
TheFakeJonArrenLex thanks06:08
ellioTbArrenLex, that isn't enough stuff i don't think, plus it removes a bunch of stuff i want to keep, i guess i could just reinstall those packages06:08
ArrenLexElliot: you need to read more.06:09
ArrenLexElliot: from that site, top line:  If you didn't have as much foresight and chose instead to install KDE or XFCE through Synaptic or apt-get, this is how to remove those desktop environments from your Gnome.06:09
asdfasdfArrenLex, I have done everything on google, but I can't get the system to see /dev/sda once I've chrooted to my linux partition06:09
ArrenLexelliot: which stuff you want to keep does it remove?06:09
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asdfasdfas root it seems I cant see anything06:09
ellioTbArrenLex, alright, its pasted, here goes nothing06:09
asdfasdfand without root I cant chroot06:09
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ArrenLexasdf: Have you seen this guide? It seems like what you want. http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/06:10
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mister_roboto_ellioTb: why are you worried about deleting it? are you short on disk?06:10
ellioTbArrenLex, thanks a bunch06:10
ArrenLexasdf: replace "redhat boot disk" with "any Linux recovery disk:06:10
ArrenLex"06:10
ellioTbmister_roboto_, i just don't want the million apps i installed06:10
mister_roboto_ellioTb: again... why do you care?06:10
ellioTbwhen i installed kde, it was 531mb, to remove it with that paste, its 63106:10
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ellioTbmister_roboto_, cause now i can't find anything cause of the million apps, i guess i could just clean up the menu06:11
ArrenLexellioTb: I don't know what to tell you, mean. Take it or leave it. I suggest you apt-get install ubuntu-desktop afterward to make sure you have everything.06:11
mister_roboto_ellioTb: ahh, ok, the menu is cluttered :)06:11
ellioTbyeah06:11
ArrenLexmisteroboto: some of us don't want a bunch of crap on our hard drives, however vast they may or may not be.06:11
ellioTbmister_roboto_, i just wanted to try out kde, but instead of installer kde-core, i installed the 500mb package06:12
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ellioTblol, i guess i need to get out of KDE to uninstall that stuff huh06:12
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mister_roboto_ArrenLex: it's not exactly crap though. but i understand.06:12
ellioTbbrb, save me that link arren06:12
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ArrenLexmister: have you SEEN the applications that come bundled with KDE? It's total crap!06:13
com4i'm trying to setup rsync in a script using the RSYNC_PASSWORD environment variable. the rsync binary doesn't seem to be reading that variable at all.06:13
ArrenLexmister: I do NOT care about a povray frontend. I'm sorry, I just DON'T.06:13
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: i use kde, have for years06:13
ArrenLexmister: so do I, have for years.06:13
sg2arrenlex and everyone else: i think i got it, thanks alot for all the help though!06:13
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: what exactly is crap?06:13
com4export RSYNC_PASSWORD=mypassword; rsync -avz some stuff06:13
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sg2exit06:14
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ArrenLexmister: kpovmodeler, for example. kig. all\most of the games. There was, like, a japanese dictionary or something. I don't speak japanese! There are a thousand applications I don't need.06:14
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jmoncayohow is the ubuntu offtopic channel please?06:14
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ellioTbyeah, don't think that would have worked to uninstall kde while i was in it06:15
ArrenLexjmoncayo: it's at #ubuntu-offtopic06:15
Healot#ubuntu-offtopic?06:15
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ArrenLexelliot: .....probably not! XD06:15
ellioTbheheh06:15
bm0nkive just managed to get my network card working....  i put    islsm    in /etc/modprobe.conf - is that all i need to do now so i can use the internet when i reboot my computer without typing anything ? - i type modprobe islsm now it returns     WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line 106:15
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: i'm running kubuntu and have none of that stuff06:15
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: not sure how you picked it up06:15
bm0nkive just managed to get my network card working....  i put    islsm    in /etc/modprobe.conf - is that all i need to do now so i can use the internet when i reboot my computer without typing anything ? - i type modprobe islsm now it returns     WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'islsm'06:15
ArrenLexImagine standing on a boat in the sea. And then imagine removing that boat because you decide you want a different boat. Uhhh...06:15
bm0nksorry for the repeat...pressed the wrong button06:15
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: this is a fresh install of edgy on this machine though so ymmv06:16
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ArrenLexmister: _I_ don't have it. Elliot accidentally installed it. I was helping him remove it.06:16
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: i'm specifically talking about the stuff you said YOU had on YOUR machine, like the japanese dictionary and povmodeler06:16
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ArrenLexmister: surprising. I know for certain that kpovmodeler was part of the suite at one point. *shrug* there are still lots of apps you don't need.06:17
ellioTbaww man, dpkg was interrupted06:17
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ellioTbi think i just restarted X while the last terminal was running06:17
ellioTbdoh06:17
ArrenLexelliot: oops. xD "apt-get -f install"06:17
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ArrenLexand then re-run that crazy long command to get everything you didn't get to.06:17
bm0nkcan anyone help? i really need to go to bed but i cant turn my computer off without knowing wireless will work when i wake up06:18
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ellioTbArrenLex, thanx, there it goes06:18
noctibm0nk, pull the plug06:18
ArrenLexOkay, mister, I just typed in 'apt-get install kde'. Selected randomly: kasteroids, quanta, kstars, kbattleship, kfax, kwifimanager, amor, atlantik. Mostly the random games.06:18
bm0nknocti : so WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line1: ignoring bad line starting with 'islsm'06:19
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ellioTbArrenLex, so after this, if i just want to check it out, i can just do an apt-get install kde-core?06:19
bm0nknocti : so WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line1: ignoring bad line starting with 'islsm'       - isnt bad? and it will all work tomorrow ?06:19
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: besides the games, quanta and kwifimanager are very useful. quanta is an awesome html editor06:19
ArrenLexelliot: yes. And make sure you either use aptitude so it removes everything it installed with it, or else paste the packages it installed into a text file so you can remove them all later!06:19
noctibm0nk, go to sleep. it will work...06:20
ArrenLexmister: of course it is. But _I_ don't have a use for an html editor. I'm sure it's very useful for some people.06:20
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ArrenLexkvoctrain06:20
ArrenLexkweather06:20
bm0nknocti : ok... sorry its just i've spent 4 days in a row trying to get it to work and now finally it does i dont want to lose it :P06:20
ellioTbArrenLex, whats aptitude06:20
ellioTblol, noob question06:21
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: of course you could make the same complaint about all the "crap" in ubuntu (gnome desktop)06:21
noctibm0nk, it's just a warning. warnings are usually that... warnings. but you can look over your modprobe.conf, look for that line and comment it out.06:21
jimersonI figured out my trackpad slow cursor problem!06:21
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ellioTbmister_roboto_, touche06:21
ArrenLexellioTB: aptitude is similar to apt-get, except it also provides a GUI if you need it, it also installs "recommended" packages rather than just what you need, and it remembers what packages were also installed when you tried to install some package, and removes them all once you remove that one package.06:21
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bm0nknocti : well someone told me to put    islsm   in /etc/modprobe.conf so it will load it when i reboot, i just though that warning meant that i hadn't done it right06:22
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ellioTbArrenLex, i have some package manager, prolly not aptitude though06:22
ArrenLexmister: I certainly could, and I do. I installed ubuntu from the alternate version. I didn't even have X when I started; I added only what I needed.06:22
noctibm0nk,  man islsm06:22
ellioTbmister_roboto_, the prollem is having crap from both06:22
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ArrenLexellioTb: everyone has aptitude, it's part of the install. You're talking about synaptic, which is an X app.06:22
bm0nknocti : no manual entry for islsm06:22
noctibm0nk, ah...06:23
nix_chix0rMay i speak with room 2H please?06:23
KumoriJinsokucan someone help me with installing mplayer?06:23
ArrenLexKumori: what help do you need?06:23
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: good practice for a server. i find it hard to get too anal about a desktop with a big disk though, as long as all the services are tightly under control06:23
noctibm0nk, if it worked when you booted earlier. i trust it will work tomorrow when you have a clearer head :)06:23
ellioTbahh, i didn't see kde-core in aptitude06:23
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ArrenLexmister: I just don't like crap on my drive. It's the way I am.06:23
KumoriJinsokuArrenLex: for some reason, I can't find mplayer. I've opened all my repos in the sources.list but I can't install it.06:23
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ArrenLexKumori: it's not there. Ubuntu refuses to ship mplayer because of patent worries. You're going to have to find it on a third-party repository or build it from source yourself.06:24
bm0nknocti : no thats the thing...i havent rebooted since i turned my machine on....but ive just got it to work and someone told me to put the islsm line in modprobe.conf but i just wasnt sure if i did it right :s06:24
felicianoI need to install Transmission... somebody do this?06:24
com4I'm trying to write an rsync script using the RSYNC_PASSWORD environment variable, but /usr/bin/rsync seems to be ignoring it. Can anyone help?06:24
noctiArrenLex, if you *really* want a clean system, just the apps you want/need, try LFS distro.06:24
ellioTbwon't AutomatiX install it06:25
MadpilotArrenLex, not true. mplayer is in Multiverse06:25
ArrenLexnocti: I want a "clean" system, with just the apps I want\need, without having to build every single one from source. =P06:25
Madpilot!info mplayer06:25
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB06:25
KumoriJinsokuArrenLex: ah ok. How would I go about doing that then? what build should I get?06:25
ArrenLexOh. So it is. My apologies; I guess that was debian.06:25
ArrenLexKumori: I'm told it's in multiverse.06:25
MadpilotKumoriJinsoku, enable the Multiverse repo, get mplayer06:25
noctiArrenLex, how about installing ubuntu server and starting from that. kde/gnome usually has their own baggage of crap anyway you install em06:25
ArrenLexnocti: but I adore KDE. It's customisable and powerful and familiar.06:26
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ellioTbArrenLex, i am excited about gettin back into it to check it out06:26
noctiArrenLex, and slow :)06:26
SoulBlinkdoes anybody know who to enable core dumps in ubuntu?06:26
ArrenLexNot slow for me.06:26
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ellioTbonly had linux again for under a week, trying to get back into the swing of things06:26
ArrenLexMaybe I just don't know what fast is or have a snappy machine. But I'm perfectly alright with it.06:26
mister_roboto_ArrenLex: you'd probably be better off going with Linux From Scratch ;)06:27
JosephRiversI'm trying to get a java application to run on Linux, and it's not working particularly well. The application only partially draws itself on the screen, but when I move the mouse around and interact with some of the widgets they start to draw themselves. Any suggestions on what I can do to make the app display normally?06:27
ArrenLexmister_roboto: I don't want to compile everything from source. I've always felt that source-based distros were for the immortal.06:27
KumoriJinsokuMadpilot: I believe I have the universe repo enabled under my source.list. Should I type in "apt-get install mplayer" to get it then?06:27
ArrenLexJoseph: what Java did you install?06:27
ArrenLexJumori: multiverse is different from universe.06:27
MadpilotKumoriJinsoku, multiverse is seperate from universe06:27
ArrenLexKumori *06:28
ellioTbgnome isn't so slow on my desktop cause that is a LOT faster than this notebook with a lot more RAM06:28
SoulBlinkcore dumps, anybody, nobody?06:28
JosephRiversArrenLex: I tried it first with blackdown; then I tried with Sun's java. Both of them exhibited the same behavior.06:28
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KumoriJinsokuMadpilot: oh. I meant that.   meant to say multiverse instead of universe.06:28
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KumoriJinsokumy bad06:28
ArrenLexJoseph: you're certain that's what you were using? What you described sounds an awful lot like GJI.06:28
MadpilotKumoriJinsoku, yes, then 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' would work06:28
ellioTbdon't you have to get all the codecs and stuff to watch stuff in mplayer also06:29
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ArrenLexelliot: you need proprietary codecs for proprietary formats, yes.06:29
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: what about core dumps?06:29
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ArrenLexMadpilot: why doesn't ubuntu include w32codecs in some repo?06:30
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: how do I enable them06:30
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MadpilotArrenLex, legality, or lack thereof06:30
JosephRiversArrenLex: I don't really know how to specify which verision of java to run. What I did is just set /usr/bin/java to point to /opt/<java version>/bin/java. Will that be enough to specify the version of java to run or do I also need to change class paths and things like that.06:30
LookTJHey y'all06:30
gtlhello! need help! ubuntu x86_6406:30
ArrenLexMadpilot: also can you explain to me why Mplayer is "non-free"?06:30
LookTJHow are y'all06:30
ellioTbgtl, whats up06:30
gtlwine06:30
MadpilotArrenLex, because it's not actually open-source, I gather. I don't use it myself.06:30
ArrenLexJoseph: it should be enough, yeah.06:30
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ArrenLexMadpilot: of course it's open-source! I've compiled it dozens of times. It's GPL.06:31
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: you getting 0 length core files? or none? try "man core"06:31
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MadpilotArrenLex, in that case, I've no idea06:31
SoulBlinknone06:31
gtlellioTb, can't install wine06:31
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: none06:31
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KumoriJinsokuMadpilot: it tells me: "Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package."06:31
ixian__does ubuntu need to be installed on a primary partition?06:31
ArrenLexMadpilot: voila wikipedia: License: GPL06:31
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: I already tried setting ulimit to 1024 and unlimited06:31
ellioTbgtl, how far have you gotten06:31
picassohi. i've got dell inspiron 6000, recently upgraded 5.10 -> 6.06, and i just realized that my sound no longer works with xmms or mpg123 ('can't open default sound device')06:31
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picassoanybody know what would have changed? /dev/dsp no longer works?S06:31
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: I am getting no man for core06:31
MadpilotJosephRivers, the Java wiki page includes directions on getting your system to use Sun Java instead of the isntalled free one06:31
picassoor whatever sound device they try to use06:32
ArrenLexixian: no, Linux is an OS which can be installed on Logical partitions. Grub will know how to find it.06:32
gansinhohello, I've changed the name of my home in desktop via gnome configuration editor, and now I've an annoying message everytime I start nautilus, even though I've already tried to change the problematic entry06:32
kbeeixian__: no06:32
HealotLinux is just the operating system kernel, ehem06:32
ArrenLexHealot: "Linux-based operating systems" =P06:32
Healotehem06:32
valehruHey guys, I want to stream a couple of directories of MP3's over my LAN.  Does anyone know a good application to do this?06:33
gtlellioTb, OpenGL crashes "./configure"06:33
HealotVLC06:33
ellioTbhrmm, have you tried that wine-config program?06:33
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ellioTbi forgot exactly what its called, i used that to walk me through everything06:33
ellioTbdidn't have to configure, make or anything06:33
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Healotwith VLC, File->Wizard; Stream to network06:34
ixian__okay, so i have 2 drives, master 80gb drive with winxp on it, and a slave 160gb drive. so i can say for example make a 10gb logical partition on the slave drive and ubuntu will install to that?06:34
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valehruHealot, thanks06:34
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: looking06:34
gtlellioTb, is there one for my processor?06:34
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SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: thanks for the effort06:34
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: there has to be something I am missing06:34
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ellioTbgtl, try a sudo apt-get wineconfig06:35
ellioTbor something like that06:35
ArrenLexixian: yes, grub will know how to find it.06:35
ellioTbanyone know what the wine config package is?06:35
valehruHealot, can you enable multiple directories, or is it only 1 file at a time?06:35
ArrenLexelliot: I understand they're trying to compile wine. Otherwise they'd not be running configure.06:35
picassowith ubuntu 6.06, should i be using OSS driver, esound, ALSA? (for xmms)06:35
ArrenLexpicasso: ALSA06:35
gtlellioTb, hold...06:35
berniei'm trying to  get fglrx working with 3d fun, but when i try fglrxinfo it syas all my opengl stuff is mesa, not ati. what'd i do wrong?06:35
Healotyou can select multiple files from multiple directories, valehru06:35
picassoArrenLex: is that different than 5.10 was?06:36
ArrenLexNo.06:36
picassompg123 <file.mp3> doesn't work by default right now06:36
smoked1I have a pcmcia card reader and I have a card in it right now. I can see the card mounted under "Computer" but when I double click it nothing happens.06:36
ellioTbArrenLex, yeah, i just used some config program for wine, and it ddi all the hard stuff for me06:36
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SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: is it somewhere in the /etc/security file?06:36
ArrenLexbernie: do you have restricted modules installed? Do you have the fglrx driver installed? Did you set your xorg.conf to use the fglrx driver?06:36
gtlellioTb, E: impossible to find package wine-config"06:36
ArrenLexellioTb: I assume you weren't compiling wine from source, but working with the binaries.06:36
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Ferox^Anyone here think they can give me a hand with getting my laptop's broadcom wifi adapter to connect? I have added the firmware for it.. but for some reason everytime I try to connect to my WEP router it wont' connect .. at least not at first.. I have to keep entering the key over and over06:36
ellioTbarren, i was using the packages06:37
ArrenLexgtl: no, ellioTb is talking about something else. Can you paste me the part where configure fails?06:37
Ferox^It finally works after a while06:37
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: never mind06:37
smoked1Ferox: try installing Network Tools06:37
ellioTblol, yeah, ask the real experts, i have only hadl inux a week lol06:37
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gtlArrentLex: in portuguese?06:37
bernieArrenLex, oddly enough i have a device section for both radeon and fglrx. how can i tell which device it used? restricted is installed, fglrx is installed from repo.06:37
ArrenLexgtl: portuguese? What? o_o06:37
ArrenLexbernie: do you have two video cards? A dual-head setup? Something equally weird?06:38
gtlArrenLex: just kidding!06:38
ArrenLex... ha ha?06:38
stopgocan anyone tell me why my nm-applet doesn't show wireless networks? i read that it wouldn't show interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces, so i changed that to exclude my wireless interfaces and it didnt help06:38
bernieArrenLex, integrated, but i don't want to use it. i just can't turn it off in bios unfortunatly06:38
gtlArrenLex: guess it's something about repositories06:38
ellioTbArrenLex, i keep watching this thing remove packages i wanted, lol06:38
bernie ArrenLex I have integrated and an radeon card06:38
ArrenLexbernie: integrated ATI?06:39
ArrenLex/info bernie06:39
ArrenLexDammit -_-06:39
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ArrenLexThere we go, it's /whois06:39
bernieArrenLex, integrated intel, addon ati 9200PRO, can't turn off the integrated06:39
ArrenLexGot it.06:39
ArrenLexbernie: pastebin the output of "lspci"06:39
ArrenLexbernie: also pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:39
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gtlArrenLex: or perhaps something relates to the video driver?06:40
nefariousHi all06:40
ArrenLexgtl: can you pastebin the error ./configure gives you, please?06:40
bernieArrenLex, would fglrxinfo work if it was using the radeon driver? i think it's just using the wrong openGL librarys but i don't know how to change them06:40
ArrenLexbernie: I'm using radeon and fglrxinfo works for me. It just shows mesa.06:41
nefariousany chance anyone here is running ubuntu on a aspire 5500z?06:41
bernieArrenLex, i'm gonna try restarting x without the radeon section in xorg06:41
ArrenLexAight.06:41
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Ferox^nefarious: nope, are you having trouble with your wireless?06:42
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mister_roboto_SoulBlink: you still there?06:42
nefariousno i foolowed some instructions online and got that working. got problems with the monitor though06:42
ArrenLexnefarious: "problems"?06:43
nefariousresolution and such... image is not clear06:43
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: ulimit -c <bignumber>   (like 50000 or more) to enable cores06:43
Ferox^nefarious: ahh, well at least you're ahead of me, i'm still having networking issues06:43
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ArrenLexnefarious: is your resolution too low? You can change it by going sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:43
nefariouswhen i look in xorg.conf,  under Monitor it says only generic monitor06:43
gtlconfigure: WARNING: Wine will be build without OpenGL or Direct3D support06:43
gtlconfigure: WARNING: because something is wrong with the OpenGL setup:06:43
gtlconfigure: WARNING: No OpenGL library found on this system.06:43
gtlConfigure finished.  Do 'make depend && make' to compile Wine.06:43
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nefariousok ill try that 1 sec06:43
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ArrenLexgtl: do you need 3D support in wine?06:44
nefariousFerox if you want i can try to find the webpage i foolowed for the wireless06:44
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tonyyarussoHow can I set mount options for devices handled by hal instead of fstab?  For instance, I would like to make USB flash drives mount with the 'sync' option rather than the default.06:45
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: ya,I already tried that it still doesn't work06:45
gtlArrenLex: yes I'll need it06:45
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FriedGeekThanks for the blog post ArrenLex. And you are right on all counts. :-)06:46
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: well i just did it and it does work. you need to be in a dir that is writeable06:46
Soekisancan someone recomend me a good ftp client?06:46
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mister_roboto_SoulBlink: and i have the core file to prove it  ;)06:46
NoobZaibotHello06:46
ArrenLexgtl: try -- and I'm not at all sure about this --  installing xlibmesa-dev06:46
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kromelHello06:46
nix_chix0rLOLOCANO06:46
NoobZaibotHow do i recompile the kernel to run at 1000hz ?06:46
ArrenLexNO06:47
ArrenLexlibgl1-mesa-dev06:47
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ArrenLexand libglu1-mesa-dev06:47
FriedGeekArrenLex: Since I hadn't really invested much in it I just re-installed. Eventually I'll get my screen resolution up.06:47
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: also, the executable used for the process has to be readable, not just executable06:47
Soekisan!ftp06:47
ArrenLexgtl: Actually, do you have x-window-system-core, xlibs, and xlibs-dev installed?06:47
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd06:47
nix_chix0rhai2u mister_roboto_06:47
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smoked1I have used this pcmcia card to read this memory stick before but now it wont work. Any ideas?06:47
smoked1It's mounted but I cant view the contents06:48
mister_roboto_nix_chix0r: domo06:48
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FriedGeekIs there FileZilla for Linux? That's my fav.06:48
FriedGeekFTP that is.06:49
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: the core will probably be written to the dir from which you started the process. you might just be missing it. maybe "find / -name core -type f" if all else fails :)06:49
Soekisani cant find it06:49
ellioTbArrenLex, its still uninstalling stuff, lol06:49
Soekisani mean filezilla.06:49
tuxmaniacHow to change the host name?? Like I have tuxmaniac@dapper$ at the console. I want it to be now tuxmaniac@edgy$ any pointers?06:49
HealotFriedGeek, FileZilla with a taste of WINE works06:49
nefariousok i dont know what i just did06:49
kromelFriedGeek, ooh, I'll have to check that out.  I did enjoy FileZilla when I used Windows.06:49
ArrenLexFriedGeek: typically there aren't versions of Windows apps for Linux. Try gftp!06:49
nefariousdo i have to restart X after this ?06:49
tuxmaniacHow to change the host name?? Like I have tuxmaniac@dapper$ at the console. I want it to be now tuxmaniac@edgy$ any pointers?06:49
NoobZaibotHow do i recompile the kernel to run at 1000hz ?06:50
gtlArrenLes: x-libs-dev: impossible to find06:50
smoked1FriedGeek: Just use gftp06:50
ArrenLextuxmaniac: /etc/hostname. Edit it.06:50
Healotsudo hostname <new hostname>06:50
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smoked1works great06:50
ArrenLexgtl: xlibs-dev06:50
FriedGeekCool.06:50
nefariousill restart brb06:50
ArrenLextuxmaniac: Healot is right, run "sudo hostname edgy"06:51
gtlArrenLes: oops! xlibs-dev : most recent06:51
Soekisanill try that gftp06:51
ArrenLexgtl: that's fine. Do you also have x-window-system-core and xlibs?06:51
kromelhmm, gftp actually looks real nixe.06:51
tuxmaniacArrenLex> Done thanks guys06:51
tuxmaniacHealot>06:52
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NoobZaibotHow do i recompile the kernel to run at 1000hz ? hellooo06:52
ArrenLexNoobZaibot: what do you mean, "run at 1000hz"?06:52
gtlArrenLes: "E: Package has no candidate for installation!06:52
ArrenLexgtl: what package is this?06:52
gtlArrenLes: xlibs06:53
NoobZaiboti need to recompile it to run the timer at 1000hz06:53
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: readable by who?06:53
ArrenLexgtl: actually, you don't need xlibs. Make sure you have x-window-system-core and xlibs-dev.06:53
mister_roboto_by the uid running the process06:53
ArrenLexSoulBlink: by WHOM?06:53
SoulBlinkArrenLex: thank you06:53
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FriedGeeklol06:54
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gtlArrenLes: both are most recent06:54
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: ok, so ulimit is set, I think it lies in the readable nonsense06:54
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25636/06:54
nefariousok back.... bad news... now im at 640x480 resolution06:54
Cadeodd question, but can anyone here read Catalan?06:54
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mister_roboto_SoulBlink: you need to set "ulimit -c"06:55
NoobZaibotArrenLex: Hello ?06:55
ellioTbodd question, but can anyone here read Klingon?06:56
ArrenLexHi! What do you need?06:56
FriedGeekI've got my fresh (10 min old) install doing it's initial update, then it's back to trying to get my screen up to 1280x1024.06:56
Healotlinux font space has reserved klingon entry :)06:56
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: silly thing wont take SIGABRT as an option for kill06:56
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Cade-_-'06:56
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: this machine is driving me nuts06:56
ArrenLexOh. Sorry, Noob, I can't help you. xD I don't know.06:56
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NoobZaibotok06:56
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mister_roboto_SoulBlink: use "-6" instead of "-SIGABRT" then   or did you forget the hyphen?06:57
nefariousmy xorg.conf says 1280x800 but im at 640x480 after restarting06:57
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kromelSetting Ubuntu on a Machine with an onboard video and a PCI video card was a pain.06:57
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SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: I just used ABRT06:58
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: and it aborted and didn't dump06:58
ArrenLexnefarious: what happens if you ctrl+plus? (plus as in the plus sign on your numpad_06:58
ArrenLex)06:58
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FriedGeekMaybe that's my issue.06:58
mister_roboto_SoulBlink: what does "ulimit -c" give you?06:58
ArrenLexSorry, that's ctl+alt+plus06:58
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FriedGeekI've got a via chipset onboard and an Nvidia 5900 AGP.06:58
nefariousnothing at all06:58
bl4cktoneQuick question guys,  is it good to give a gift card after an IT interview with a written thankyou letter?  I don't know if that's maybe overboard or if something else would be better06:58
ArrenLexFriedgeek: is that... bad? xD06:58
MrKeunerhi, are there more packages in source repositories than in binary repositories? And are surce files in source repositories different from the sources distributed by the project itself?06:58
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mister_roboto_bl4cktone: a gift card?!?!   ummm  yes, overboard06:59
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: I was execing a new shell and ulimit must be session based06:59
nefariouswhat is suuposed to happen?06:59
nefarioussupposed*06:59
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FriedGeekArrenLex: I don't know. X)06:59
morrisseyhi all06:59
fubuntu_why is it that i can't uninstall open office?!!!06:59
fubuntu_it's got some locK!06:59
fubuntu_omg06:59
steveneddyhey morrissey06:59
morrisseyanyone has a problem like me with an Epson printer cx320006:59
morrisseyhi Steve07:00
FriedGeeknixternal: "It's a bit nutty."07:00
BHSPitLappybl4cktone, definitely overboard. consider it like paperclipping a $20 to your resume ^^07:00
ArrenLexMrKeuner: There are less source packages than binary packages because some binaries are built from a single source package. But there will be a source package for every binary package, except for the multiverse repo.07:00
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ArrenLexfubuntu: why? What's it saying?07:00
SoulBlinkmister_roboto_: ok, now I just have to figure out how to add reading to this binary with our screwing up the uid it runs as07:00
FriedGeek"I Mojo Nixion am the anti-morrisey"07:00
nixternalFriedGeek: whats a bit nutty?07:00
FriedGeekSorry couldnt' pass that up07:00
kromelhmm, paperclipping a $20 to resume.. I may try that next.  Can't be worse then the results I'm having now.07:00
morrisseyI installed on Ubuntu and when I try to print, it starts really slow and then just stops completely07:00
MrKeunerArrenLex/ aren't there source packages without their binaries?07:00
ArrenLexSoulBlink, can't you just "sudo chmod 777 <file>?07:00
morrisseyanybody has any idea ?07:00
fubuntu_OMG! ArrenLex... it _just_ worked07:00
ArrenLexMrKeuner: No. That's pointless.07:00
fubuntu_it had a nice lock07:00
FriedGeekerr sorry.   nix_chix0r: ..bit nutty.07:00
BHSPitLappykromel, I didn't even need a resume to get my current job...07:00
SoulBlinkArrenLex: cause its a binary thats set to run as root07:01
SoulBlinkArrenLex: don't ask, but its screwy07:01
fubuntu_it couldn't unlock some directory...07:01
nefariouswhats the command to do that config again? dpkg07:01
ArrenLexSoulBlink... alrighty. o_o /me doesn't ask.07:01
fubuntu_lol thanks!07:01
kromelBHSPitLappy, I never had too either till 2001.  the 1990's were soooo easy.07:01
nix_chix0rhmm FriedGeek i like nutty=) thanks07:01
FriedGeekOop. Update done. Back after reboot.07:01
ArrenLexfubuntu: can't unlock directory means you aren't running as root. Use sudo.07:01
BHSPitLappykromel, well, I got my job a week ago. :)07:01
fubuntu_i did sudo su07:01
MrKeunerArrenLex/ why would I want to go with the source when there is already a binary? performance issues?07:01
kromelBHSPitLappy, wish I can say the same.07:02
fubuntu_well, gksudo synaptic07:02
ArrenLexWTF is with all these people and their sudo su?!07:02
BHSPitLappykromel, wendy's isn't so bad ;)07:02
fubuntu_sudo su, sudo su, sudo su07:02
fubuntu_replace su07:02
fubuntu_by typing 5 more chars07:02
SoulBlinkalrighty07:02
SoulBlinkthanks07:02
kromelBHSPitlappy, don't make me go in to convulsions please. heh07:02
ArrenLexMrKeuner: you wouldn't, unless you want to change the package or if you just really want to build it from source. On modern machines, the performance increase from compiling natively is almost inperceptible.07:02
morrisseyanyone listening ? :-(07:02
MrKeunerArrenLex/ OK thanks07:03
BHSPitLappykromel, you should work at lowes, all their computers run linux... you could probably do something spiffy and impress them07:03
gtlArrenLes: both are most recent07:03
BHSPitLappyand hack your way up to manager07:03
mneptokmorrissey: what kind of printer? how is it connected to the machine? what driver are you using? how did you install it? do you get any output at all?07:03
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bronsonmorrissey: yes, but do you expect us to have ESP?07:03
steveneddymorrissey, can't help you - all HP printers here07:03
ArrenLexgtk: I don't swing that way, and sorry, I don't know how to help you then? xD07:03
ArrenLexbronson: he asked his question earlier up =P07:03
kromelBHSPitLappy, I'm still a linux noob.  as in 1 month of experience.  BUT, I didn't convert 4 friend to linux though.  The army is growing.07:03
fubuntu_peace07:03
BHSPitLappyword07:03
kromelBHSPitLappy, err DID07:04
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bronsonArrenLex: about the printer, I saw it.  But it didn't have any specifics.07:04
BHSPitLappykromel, well if we want to continue chit-chatting we should probably move it to #ubuntu-offtopic07:04
morrisseythanks : it's an epson cx 3200, usb only connection, installed driver provided by Ubuntu, what happens is that the printer is installed, starts printing but very  very slowly then simply doesn't work any more07:04
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kromelBHSPitLappy, probably a good idea07:05
morrisseyany ideas ?07:05
bronsonmorrissey: what do your CPU and memory monitors say while printing?07:05
bronson(or just run top while printing)07:05
nefariousim going through the xorg reconfigure... can anyone help me through some of the settings please?07:05
morrisseythey go up just a little, but then nothing, back to normal, and the next printing job doesn't affect them at all07:05
bronsonUp a little is fine -- neither one spikes?07:06
ArrenLexnefarious: what do you need help with?07:06
bl4cktoneOk so after the interview a physical letter with signature would be best I guess.07:06
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bl4cktoneX the starbucks gift card07:06
nefariousits asking me to input how much memeroy in Kb to give to the video card?07:06
ArrenLexnefarious: keep the default? o_o07:06
bronsonmorrissey: the job stops, then what?  Do you cancel it?  Do you unplug/replug or powercycle the printer?07:06
nefariousthere is nothing in there07:07
nefariousi leave it blank?07:07
ArrenLexnefarious: don't ask questions if you won't be bothered to read what the question asks.07:07
morrisseythen I tried all, unplug and plug, restart the printer etc,.. restart the computer too or the X system and the job just stays in the tray saying : "printing" until I have to finally cancel it07:07
ArrenLexRead the blurb above it and then, if you don't understand, ask.07:07
bronsonmorrissey: I've seen this but not for years.07:08
morrisseyand then when I check the printer configuration it says : not connected07:08
morrisseyahhh07:08
morrisseywhat do you think it is Bronson07:08
nefariousyes it says some integrated chips (like the intel i810) have no memory so for those we need to specify, and thats the one it had selected for me by default07:08
bronson... trying to remember.  But I doubt it's the same since it didn't affect the printer connection.07:09
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morrisseyyeah, most of the time though it says printer connected, it just stops sending info or something07:09
morrisseyI tried changing usb cable too07:09
ArrenLexnefarious: you're on an intel chip?07:09
bronsonTrying to print from Abiword would produce weird postscript that would cause some sort of conflict between Ghostscript and GimpPrint's drivers.07:09
morrisseyor putting lower quality paper07:09
bronsonI never tracked it down completely.07:09
Healotubuntu xorg doesn't have fbdev driver right?07:09
morrisseyahhh07:09
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nefariousyes its a laptop acer aspire 5500z07:10
bronsonI only saw this problem with a single file.  I managed to print it by printing specific page ranges and never saw it again.07:10
morrisseyshite, so no solution for now07:10
morrisseyhmmm07:10
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bronsonMay or may not be the same thing.  *shrug*07:10
morrisseyit's indeed not the same problem07:10
nefariousit has an integrated intel video card07:10
FriedGeekHello all. Could anyone help me get my screen res up to 1280x1024? I've got an Nvidia 5900 AGP card and I'm suck at 1024x768 on a large LCD. I feel like I'm using my grandma's computer. Huge fonts and icons.07:10
ArrenLexnefarious: how much ram does your computer have?07:10
morrisseyit seems as though the power is too weak or something07:10
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morrisseybecause why would it print then07:11
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morrisseyand then just stop forever07:11
ArrenLexFriedGeek: did you specify the correct resolutions when you configured X?07:11
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nefarious512 mb07:11
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ferossnefarious: just throwing something out but I like to do things simple first to harder later.. I didn't see anything mentioned about going to System>prefs>screen resolution.. did you try changing it there before messing around with the xorg.conf file and such?07:11
morrisseyany ideas mneptok07:11
nefariousyea its at 640x480 there but cant change it07:11
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wall0159hi all. Has anyone successfully reflashed the firmware on a Seagate hard disk?07:12
FriedGeekArrenLex: I didn't see an X setup when I installed.07:12
Healotdo you really need firmware flash?07:12
wall0159well, possibly not, but the drive's unresponsive.. not a happy HD07:13
ArrenLexFriedGeek: firstly, tried what feross suggested for nefarious.07:13
wall0159not detected by BIOS07:13
mneptokmorrissey: have you tried contacting Epson?07:13
Ademan_ is there a way to manually bind global and program specific actions to mouse buttons? (i've now got a "12" button mouse)07:13
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morrisseyno, not yet07:13
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wall0159but apparently, corrupted firmware is a common problem resulting in an apparently dead HD07:13
FriedGeekArrenLex: Checked Screen res panel. Offers 640/800/1024.07:13
FriedGeeknothing higher.07:14
ArrenLexFriedGeek: okay, open a term. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.07:14
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ArrenLexFriedGeek: go through the motions. It should be self-evident for the most part.07:14
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ArrenLexAdeman: yes. Look into the "imwheel" program.07:15
hchey, i have some problems with unmet dependencies07:15
ArrenLex!imwheel07:15
ubotuimwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-5 (dapper), package size 78 kB, installed size 264 kB07:15
ArrenLexubotu: imwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-5 (dapper), package size 78 kB, installed size 264 kB07:15
ArrenLexYeah, what he said.07:15
FriedGeekArrenLex: Would '07:15
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AbstAnyone know why my fonts are this (this = http://img.waffleimages.com/ee008dd87422981167cf17c366cd8070280054a6/Screenshot-tkMOO-SE%20v0.3.png) small in login and some programs?07:15
nefariousat the end when it autodetects the monitor it sets it as generic Monitor. is there a way to set it to a tft ?07:15
hc!unmet dependencies07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unmet dependencies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
FriedGeekArrenLex: oops would 'nv' stand for Nvidia?07:16
hc!unmet07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unmet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
ArrenLexFriedGeek: "nv" is the open-source driver for nvidia cards. It does not provide 3D acceleration. Do you need 3D acceleration?07:16
hchey, i have some problems with unmet dependencies. anyone able to help me?07:16
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Ferox^Got a question for you guys.. for some reason, after I log into ubuntu, it pauses a long time before the desktop shows... any ideas??07:16
Ferox^I mean like.. 3 minutes or so07:16
ArrenLexAbst: run "cat ~/.Xresources" and paste the output here.07:17
FriedGeekArrenLex: I supose not. At least not right away. Does the nv support OpenGL?07:17
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wall0159Ferox - do you have network shared drives? (guess)07:17
Ferox^no07:17
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nefariousok tried something going to restart x again07:17
EvilpigsterHey. Could anyone help me with something?07:17
ArrenLexFriedGeek: You will have to use Mesa Indirect OpenGL emulation. It will be slow.07:17
ArrenLex!ASK07:17
Ferox^wall0159: although I was trying to get my broadcom wireless device working when it started07:17
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:17
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Abstcat: /home/loser/.Xresources: No such file or directory07:17
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wall0159hmm - I'm not terribly knowledgable ;-) it sounds like a timeout. do you know 'dmesg' ?07:18
ArrenLexAbst: run this:      echo "Xft.dpi: 96" >> ~/.Xresources07:18
ArrenLexAbst: and restart X.07:18
FriedGeekArrenLex: I'll go without 3d. I'll be happy with the higher res. So choose 'nv'?07:18
hchey, i have some problems with unmet dependencies. anyone able to help me? i've tried apt-get -f install, didn't work07:18
Ferox^wall0159: Nope07:18
wall0159open a terminal, and type 'dmesg | tail'07:18
ArrenLexFriedGeek: I think so. Is "nvidia" an option?07:18
AbstOkay07:19
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wall0159dmesg tells you system messages07:19
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EvilpigsterYesterday after installing a new nvidia driver, when i rebooted it the X server wouldnt start and modprobe nvidia returns "Fatal: module nvidia not found"07:19
Ferox^I'm pretty much a linux newb, how can I check it out?07:19
wall0159don't paste the result here07:19
ArrenLexEvilpigster: Did you install all components?07:19
wall0159hmm. well, you could try looking for something that says about your wireless07:19
FriedGeekArrenLex: not seeing it Neomagic...newport...nsc...nv..rendition.. Nope.07:19
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ArrenLexFriedGeek: then go with nv.07:20
EvilpigsterI believe so07:20
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Ferox^Hmmm...07:20
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wall0159I'm sorry - I doubt I can be much help07:20
FriedGeekArrenLex: Cool. Thanks alot by the way.07:20
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AbstStill the same07:20
Ferox^No worries.. I just used dmesg, but I don't see anything that says timeout07:20
ArrenLexFriedGeek: "nvidia" is the name of the official nvidia driver. It supports 3D, but the source is not available.07:20
hchey, i have some problems with unmet dependencies. anyone able to help me? i've tried apt-get -f install, didn't work.07:20
ferosshc: do you have universal and multiverse in your sources.list file.. also you could add the plf repo and try it again.07:20
ArrenLexFriedGeek: just hope my "help" doesn't screw up your computer. =P Heaven knows it's screwed my own computer up many times.07:20
ArrenLexhc: what problem?07:21
FriedGeekArrenLex: Ah. I see. Lol07:21
hcfeross: i have all sources uncommented07:21
wall0159where in the login process does it hang?07:21
EvilpigsterIve tried alot of changing around with my xorg.conf and still cant get X to start07:21
theguyokay..so im having a problem watching gbs.tv it says im missing a plug in but when i install it it still does nothing07:21
WhiteNoisewine, ubuntu, and nvidia drivers 8762 appear to have a problem with all text being invisible in wine apps.  Anyone here found a solution?07:21
ArrenLexEvilpigster: Can't get X to start? What happens when you run 'startx' in the terminal?07:21
Evilpigsterone sec Ill try07:21
ferossdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse07:22
FriedGeekArrenLex: "Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "07:22
ferosshc:  like that ^^^ ?07:22
ArrenLexWhiteNoise: highly doubt nividia is at fault there. Did wine work before and stopped now? Or did you change it in some way?07:22
Ferox^Just right after I put in my password07:22
ArrenLexFriedGeek: No.07:22
EvilpigsterFATAL: Module nvidia not found07:22
Evilpigster(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the nvidia kernel module!07:23
WhiteNoiseArrenLex, never showed text - switched from gnome.  I've tried 3 versions of wine, and just now tried crossover wine beta.  None show text correctly.07:23
ArrenLexEvilpigster: did you install from official sources or from ubuntu packages?07:23
wall0159what are the specs of your machine?07:23
Rastawhen using virtual machines like vmware it takes half of the memory and processor when used?07:23
WhiteNoiseArrenLex, switched from gentoo rather07:23
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ferosshc: And this one? -> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free07:23
ArrenLexWhiteNoise: do any other apps experience problems?07:23
WhiteNoiseArrenLex, nope07:23
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Rasta!vmware07:23
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare07:23
Winter-SoulsticeAnyone know when edgy is supposed to have a stablerelease?07:23
EvilpigsterEasy ubuntu07:23
ArrenLexWhite: wine installed from the ubuntu repoistories?07:23
ArrenLexrepositories?07:23
Rasta!windows07:24
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm07:24
ArrenLex!edgy07:24
Winter-Soulstice!edgy07:24
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:24
ArrenLex!schedule07:24
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:24
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ArrenLexUgh.07:24
EvilpigsterEasyubuntu uses the official drivers i think07:24
ArrenLexOct. 2something.07:24
Cade2607:24
WhiteNoiseArrenLex, yes, on one attempt, tried dapper, edgy, also wine source from winehq, tried crossover wine as mentioned07:24
ArrenLexWhite: when you compiled from sources, did configure give you any warnings?07:24
WhiteNoiseArrenLex, no, but winecfg still showed normal app with tabs, etc, but text all invisible.07:25
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FriedGeekArrenLex: Here goes nothing. CTRL+ALT+BS to restart X, right?07:25
EvilpigsterDoes anyone know a temporary fix to at least start X? Maybe by trying a generic driver?07:25
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ArrenLexEvilpigster: use the "nv" driver.07:25
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ArrenLexFriedGeek: yeah.07:26
EvilpigsterAlright, ill try that and see what it says07:26
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Evilpigster:D07:26
FriedGeekArrenLex: Fingers crossed......07:26
glyph_hello07:26
ArrenLexHi glyph.07:26
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glyph_just thought i would stop in in windoze atm sadly...07:27
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EvilpigsterI tried "nv" typed "07:27
Evilpigstershould I reboot?07:28
ArrenLexEvilpigster: finish your sentence. o_o typed?07:28
Evilpigsterlol woah07:28
EvilpigsterI meant to say07:28
ArrenLex!enter07:28
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.07:28
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EvilpigsterI restarted gdm07:29
Evilpigstererr, X server07:29
ArrenLexXD07:29
ArrenLexYou're not very good at this elephant07:29
ArrenLexI mean speaking thing07:29
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ArrenLexYou changed the driver to nv? Restart X.07:29
ArrenLexWait, how can you have X running? I thought it didn't start.07:29
kyjalol enter key as punctuation. ???? what !!!????07:29
EvilpigsterYes and I got this error: EE - Failed to initialize GLX extension07:30
ArrenLexEvilpigster: if you're using the nv driver, comment out the glx extension in /etx/X11/xorg.conf07:30
vanhtu1987Evilpigster: Then try disabling gfl and possibly dri ext.07:30
ArrenLexkyja, some people use the enter key in place of a comma, semicolon or period.07:30
vanhtu1987I meant glx07:30
ArrenLexi.e. rather than saying "I use Ubuntu, and I hate it, because Debian owns all", they would say07:31
ArrenLexI use Ubuntu07:31
ArrenLexand I hate it07:31
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ArrenLexbecause Debian owns all.07:31
ArrenLexAnd it's annoying.07:31
Evilpigsterheh07:31
kyjaah so as in adressing you.07:31
kyjaArrenLex,07:31
kyjathen my message07:31
ArrenLexSure.07:31
ArrenLexThat too.07:31
ArrenLexOr like this.07:31
kyjayup bad habbit.07:31
ArrenLexThis is bad too.07:31
ferossok ok . we get the point!!!07:31
ArrenLexWow, it's quiet here.07:32
ArrenLexOh, of course. There's only 836 people.07:32
Evilpigstervanhtu1987, I already disabled dri and glcore07:32
ArrenLexEvilpigster: disable glx07:32
EvilpigsterNot sure what gfl is07:32
vanhtu1987Evilpigster: how about glx ?07:32
EvilpigsterOh ok07:32
ArrenLex/me's advice is ignored. :(07:32
ArrenLex...dammit.07:32
ianm_just added a new (well, rewritten C -> Ruby) screen ruler to Gnome CVS, anyone interested in testing? (super easy to setup in Ubuntu, I can tell you exactly what to type)07:32
EvilpigsterAlright I will try that07:32
kyja836 I think 800 of them forgot they logged into irc channel long time ago and hid the app.07:33
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ArrenLexKruler owns you, thanks. :)07:33
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ArrenLexkyja: they're probably all FBI agents watching for predators. The Linux channel is aswarm with innocent young girls, you see.07:33
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ianm_ArrenLex: everyone loves running KDE software in Gnome...07:33
deathz0rmaybe this is no the right channel. but can someone tell just how to change text color of everything i write on xchat207:34
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ianm_looks like http://linuxadvocate.org/projects/gruler/screenshot6.png07:34
ArrenLexianm: everyone loves KDE and not running Gnome. :)07:34
Prezhello...07:34
EvilpigsterOk, well disabling GLX got rid of this error (EE - Failed to initialize GLX extension) but it still has the last error "no GLX visuals available"07:34
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deathz0ri put a transparent backgroung and i cant change the gray color of my own text07:34
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deathz0rcant seem to find it07:34
Prezsomeone have an IBM X32 doing direct rendering?  I've tried all docs on the web...07:34
EvilpigsterI also installed XGL hoping that thats not a problem with it07:34
kyjaah, well then they are welcome to be here.07:34
ianm_ArrenLex: pay attention.07:35
ArrenLexEvilpigster: uh, duh that's a problem! The nv driver doesn't support 3D acceleration.07:35
deathz0rhmm07:35
FriedGeekArrenLex: Well since the command was still in my terminal history I was able to drop back to 1024.07:35
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ArrenLexianm: I know! Gnome ruler! Gnome CVS! I'm just giving props to KDE because she is my mistress.07:35
ianm_ArrenLex: I mean to reality :)07:35
EvilpigsterGahh! I got to start paying attention...07:35
ArrenLexFriedGeek: who? what? where? when? why? o__O07:35
FriedGeekArrenLex: the xconfig didn't take, couldn't get back to x after the changes. trying again.07:36
Evilpigsteris there a way to remove beryl-manager from the start up?07:36
ArrenLexFriedGeek: what errors did it give?07:36
Prezno ThinkPad X31 or X32 users?07:37
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vanhtu1987Evilpigster: does Ubuntu desktop uses 'xserver-xorg' (I'm not sure as I've no Ubuntu box here right now), if it does, try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'07:37
ArrenLexEvilpigster: the people in #ubuntu+1 will probably be better at answering your beryl questions.07:37
FriedGeekArrenLex: It gave a garbled CLI prompt saying it was an invalid x config and couldn't start x. Did I want to view the X server log.. yada yada..07:37
EvilpigsterAlright thanks for the help, I'll try that channel. :D07:38
ArrenLexFriedGeek: I certainly want to see the X server log.07:38
ArrenLexEvilpigster: my bad. #ubuntu-xgl07:38
EvilpigsterHah, np thx07:38
FriedGeekWell I ran the x config again and I was able to at least come back to 1024. I'm trying again and if it still craps out I'll try to pull the log back with me.07:39
ArrenLexFriedGeek: hold on, wait.07:39
FriedGeekArrenLex: k07:39
ArrenLexFriedGeek: pastebin your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:39
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Ferox^Question: Whenever I login to ubuntu after entering password, it freezes for about 3 minutes. Also, whenever I open the network settings window.. it won't pull up, and will ahve to be force closed. Any ideas??07:40
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FriedGeekArrenLex: I hope this doesn't torque anyone else off. ...# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package up07:41
vanhtu1987Ferox^: try switching to console and login from there, what did the logs say ?07:41
ArrenLexFriedgeek: pastebin!07:41
ArrenLex!pastebin07:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:41
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FriedGeekArrenLex: oop. ummm..... *looking I'm in Kopete...*07:42
ArrenLexFirstly, it cuts off, secondly, yes it WILL annoy people, and thirdly I will be able to read it more easily if formatting is retained.07:42
fubuntuI can't figure out why module.h is being funny...07:42
fubuntudo any of you guys have a funny module.h?07:42
ArrenLexFriedGeek: just go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:42
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Ferox^vanhtu1987: I can't see anything that says timing out in the dmesg if that's what you're asking.. any other place I could look?07:42
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fubuntuwhy is kern 2.6 bringing so much havoc?07:43
ArrenLexFriedGeek: why are you in kopete if you're not running KDE anyway?07:43
FriedGeekArrenLex: Just did a synapse search for IRC... *sheepish* 001. # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) 002. # 003. # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using 004. # values from the debconf database. 005. # 006. # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. 007. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) 008. # 009. # This file is au07:43
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ArrenLex...07:43
FriedGeekArrenLex: Crap.07:44
fubuntuso out of all these users, the ones which are online reading this message there isn't a _single_ user who didn't have to use module.h to write device drivers?07:44
ArrenLexWhat are you doing?07:44
deepakCan anyone help me in getting the info on the IDEs for building C++ app07:44
ArrenLexfubuntu: personally I don't... write device drivers. o_o07:44
ArrenLexWith module.h or otherwise.07:44
fubuntubah!07:44
ArrenLexYou might get more help at some ubuntu developer channel.07:44
fubuntusigh*07:44
fubuntu:)07:44
fubuntutrying..07:44
fubuntuthanks07:44
vanhtu1987Ferox^: GNOME and X are big beasts, I'm not sure what's causing this, can you try installing a light-weight Window Manager, icewm or fvmw could help.07:45
ArrenLexI totally read that as "big breasts".07:45
ArrenLexSomething's wrong with me.07:45
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theunruledso... how do you configure mpd?07:45
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FriedGeekArrenLex: http://google.com/notebook/public/10759102673738384372/BDQUHIwoQiobqjuEh07:46
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FriedGeekArrenLex: One way or another... :-)07:46
ArrenLexFriedGeek: what the hell is wrong with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ? Or even pastebin.ca?07:46
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ArrenLexFriedGeek: there's your problem. Hold on.07:47
poningrudeepak: eclipse?07:47
poningruwith the correct module ofcourse07:47
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ArrenLexWow, FriedGeek, you have a lot of crap here. Do you even have a touchpad and a stylus?07:48
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ArrenLexstylus -> tablet07:48
FriedGeekArrenLex: I think it was the IRC client I'm using. I pasted into paste.u... got back the plane with the text couldn't paste it in here right. Umm no stylus or touchpad.07:48
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ArrenLexFriedGeek: the idea is that you upload your text to the site and then give me the link, and I read it on that site.07:49
ArrenLexFriedGeek: no tablet?07:49
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FriedGeekArrenLex: Then it was 100% pilot error. Didn't follow the concept, my bad. I did have one but none is plugged in now. I gave it away months ago. Had XP installed then. Drive was formatted before U install.07:50
ArrenLexFriedGeek: Your xorg.conf has sections allowing you to use a touchpad and a tablet, in case you have them. Mine had them too. My question to you is, do you NEED this capability?07:51
FriedGeekArrenLex: Not at all.07:51
deepakeclipse 2 heavy some light weight 1?07:51
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surfacedeepak:  ajunta, kdevelop307:51
ArrenLexFriedGeek: don't mind if I remove them? Or would you prefer me to comment them out so you can put them back if you need to? Or shall I just leave them?07:51
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FriedGeekArrenLex: Nukem07:51
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surfaceanjunta sorry type07:52
deepaktry kdevelop3 .. thanz buddy07:52
surfacetypo07:52
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surfacedeepak:  anjunta is lighter than kdev07:52
ArrenLexFriedGeek: go to /etc/X11 and back up your current xorg.conf, i.e. move it to xorg.conf.bak or something.07:53
surfacedeepak:  remember to download libtool as well07:53
ajmitchmneptok: interesting city, montreal :)07:53
nefariousArrenLex thanks for the help i got it back to normal :007:53
ArrenLexFriedGeek: tell me when you're done.07:53
deepakSure thanz again07:53
nefarious:)07:53
ArrenLexnefarious: What help? xD07:53
mneptokajmitch: aye. and i tend to only see it at night.07:53
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ajmitchmneptok: so did I, for UBZ07:54
nefariouswell for taking the time :P07:54
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FriedGeekArrenLex: Ready.07:54
mneptokajmitch: ah, don't think there will be one this year. the dev summit is in november @ google.07:54
ArrenLexFriedGeek: your new, shiny, magical xorg.conf is at http://arrenlex.diff.be/xorg.conf07:54
ajmitchmneptok: yes, I'm trying to see if I can get there07:55
ArrenLexReboot after you do that.07:55
ArrenLexOr, not reboot. Restart x.07:55
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ArrenLex</windows mentality>07:55
mneptokajmitch: dunno yet if they want me there or not. if i go, i'll try to find you.07:55
FriedGeekArrenLex:doh, don't have permission to save over it?07:56
ArrenLexFriedGeek: Are you trying to save from the browser? That won't work.07:56
FriedGeekwas trying to save from gedit.07:56
ArrenLexFriedGeek: if you're sure you've backed it up, go to the terminal. Do the following:07:56
ArrenLexcd /etc/X1107:56
ArrenLexsudo rm xorg.conf07:56
ArrenLexsudo wget http://arrenlex.diff.be/xorg.conf07:56
ArrenLexAnd that should fix ya.07:57
FriedGeekArrenLex. I have a copy of the current one in my user folder as .bak07:57
ArrenLexFriedGeek: okey, as long as you don't lose it.07:57
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FriedGeekArrenLex: :-)07:57
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PrezArrenLex, for what card is that/07:58
Prez?07:58
ArrenLexPrez: it's for friedgeek. It's his working xorg.conf with a new resolution added in. o_o07:58
ArrenLexPrez: dunno why you would need it.07:58
ArrenLexPrez: saysIdentifier"NVIDIA Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900] "07:58
PrezArrenLex, ok, no good for me... i cannot get my radeon mobility m6 to do direct render..07:59
ArrenLexPrez: are you using fglrx?07:59
Prezjust curious what card u guys were talking about07:59
FriedGeekArrenLex: Bing. Saved.07:59
ArrenLexRestart X.07:59
PrezArrenLex, nope, that driver doesn't work for this card07:59
FriedGeekFingers crossed. ..... CTRL+ALT+BS.... (see you in the funny papers)08:00
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ArrenLexPrez: ...are you sure?08:00
LookTJYo08:00
PrezArrenLex, not 100% but from what i've read no go plus i tried it and i get no device found08:01
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adEewhen you take a screenshot of a video with VLC, where does the file go?08:01
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ArrenLexadEe: check your desktop, your home directory, and /tmp08:01
adEeArrenLex: nope08:02
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ciphex_got a simple question guys.. runnning xubuntu, uname -r reports 2.6.15-26-38608:03
ciphex_but the 2.6.15-26-386 sources aren't in my repositories08:04
WhiteNoiseOK - so wine works with 'nv' driver, but not 'nvidia' driver -- definitely a nvidia driver and wine issue -- anyone encountered this (invisible fonts with nvidia driver and wine apps?)08:04
ciphex_apparently08:04
umbro http://kecy.roumen.cz/ubuntu_5.11.jpg08:04
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ArrenLexciphex: linux-source-2.6.15, I think.08:04
ArrenLex...I didn't really need to see that.08:04
ArrenLexhttp://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:bFCOTR6-HNnjeM:http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~fool/Humor/ubuntu-logo.jpg08:05
ArrenLexBut the full-size image is already gone.08:05
ciphex_all i see in my repos is linux-source-2.6.15-2508:05
Admiral_ChicagoArrenLex, i saw the same thing kinda, but with clevage08:06
ArrenLexciphex: I don't think sources are maintained for every patchset, only for each kernel revision. I doubt you have linux-source-2.6.15-25 in your repos; I don't, and all are enabled.08:06
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ArrenLexAdmiral: that's what umbro just pasted above.08:06
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ArrenLexciphex: I really think all you need is linux-source-2.6.1508:07
mneptokciphex_: sudo apt-get install linux-source08:08
Admiral_Chicagowell i've been afk so i just got here08:08
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ciphex_well... i also have linux-source 2.6.15-27.4808:08
mneptokciphex_: that will get you the latest released kernel source, and provide updates in the future08:08
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MZMmorning, folks. should Pin-Priority: 1001 prevent package upgrade?08:09
theunruledok guys... I downloaded this theme and its colour is different from the screenshot online08:09
theunruledhow do i modify a window border'd colour?08:09
ciphex_well... i am trying to install the OSS sound drivers and need the source for my current kernell08:09
mneptokspeaking of kernels, i'll bet this VMWare instance is using plain-Jane i386 instead of K708:09
ciphex_-l08:09
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mneptokciphex_: just install that meta-package08:09
NewBeiNeed Help on Libssl ? Hoz tht is implemented in our app08:09
ciphex_ok08:10
ciphex_will do.08:10
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ArrenLexMZM: pin-priority 1001 means whatever pin you specify will ALWAYS be used, no matter what. If you pin it to a version, you'll always stick with that version.08:10
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Ayabaramorning. I'm trying to set up an ubuntu image under vmware like I did a fedora core 5 image. is there no yp.conf in ubuntu, or is my install just missing some packages?08:10
ArrenLexciphex: why are you trying to install oss?08:10
krautmoin08:11
ciphex_because ALSA won't drive my SoundBlaster08:11
ciphex_apparently08:11
MZMArrenLex: and it works in ubuntu?08:11
ArrenLexAybara: (YAY ROBERT JORDAN) what does yp.conf do? I've never heard of it.08:11
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ArrenLexMZM: of course.08:11
ciphex_i have no idea08:11
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MZMArrenLex: then I need help with writing Pin :)08:11
ciphex_is there a reason it wouldn't that i should know about?08:11
AyabaraArrenLex, then probably it doesn't exist in ubuntu. the line I'm gonna add is 'domain <name> server nis' (and I have no idea what it does...)08:12
ArrenLexMZM: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html08:12
ciphex_i've tried everything i can think of to get ALSA to recognize it but have had 0 luck08:12
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ciphex_OSS is my last option08:12
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ArrenLexciphex: have you tried running alsaconf?08:13
techno_freakI did an upgrade to edgy beta, but my emacs has got screwed up, it displays boxes instead of text and the font is disifgured, any help or pointers ?08:14
ciphex_heh. nope. didn't know it existed.08:14
ArrenLextechno, they can probably help you better with edgy stuff in #ubuntu+108:14
techno_freakArrenLex: thanx08:14
ArrenLexciphex: it doesn't, in ubuntu :P08:14
ZataHI have a problem with my wireless in edgy, anyone who maybe can help me ?08:14
FlannelZataH: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support08:14
ciphex_OSS doesn't?08:14
Admiral_Chicagotechno_freak, maybe #ubuntu+108:14
mneptoktechno_freak: you could try moving ~/.emacs aside and see what happens08:14
techno_freakya, mez leading there08:14
ArrenLexciphex: how familiar are you with manipulating debian packages? If I give you a package, can you extract a file from it?08:15
techno_freakok08:15
ZataHFlannel: thx08:15
ciphex_not very but i can follow instructions to the T08:15
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ciphex_so then.. i guess you're saying alsaconf doesn't exist in ubuntu08:16
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MZMArrenLex: can you, please, look at my pins? http://pastebin.ca/19065608:17
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SurfnKidguys how do i stop that annoying buzz when i hit an error in ubuntu08:17
SurfnKidit wakes people up08:17
ArrenLexciphex: download this somewhere: http://arrenlex.diff.be/alsaconf08:17
ArrenLexciphex: and run it as root.08:17
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NoobZaibothello anybody familiar with kernel recompiling and menuconfig ? i am using the badger08:19
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^Ocean^how do i get pppoe to use a custom dns sever, and now download one from my isp ?08:19
MZMNoobZaibot: ask your question (ps. zaibot - from zaebal?)08:19
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tonyyarussoMeanwhile, how do you edit the network manager settings?  For instance, see what wireless networks it has on its list, and delete some if necessary?08:20
ArrenLexMZM: try it? It looks okay at first glance.08:20
ArrenLex/info FriedGeek08:20
ArrenLexDAMMIT08:20
ArrenLexSTUPID COMMAND DIE08:20
ciphex_running08:20
NoobZaibotMZM : i am trying to recompile my kernel with the timer running at 1000hz08:20
MZMArrenLex: yea, for me too looks OK, but still apt-get upgrade wants to upgrade oracle08:21
NoobZaibothowever i am not able to find the option in menuconfig08:21
NoobZaiboti downloaded the kernel 2.6.1208:21
NoobZaibotaccording to this guide : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8506408:21
MZMwhy 2.6.12?08:21
NoobZaibotreally dunno x)08:22
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ArrenLexMZM: are you certain that there are no packages you're trying to upgrade which depend on oracle-xe-universal being upgraded?08:22
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NoobZaibotshould i use 2.6.13 ?08:22
wickedpuppyArrenLex, still helping here ? thats what ... 4 5 hours ?08:22
daryl_excuse me, when I type "su" it asks for a password.  But the password I gave it when I installed Ubuntu doesn't work.08:23
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MZMArrenLex: it's oracle, what can depend on it? I mean - no. nothing depends on it08:23
ArrenLexMZM: I have no idea what oracle is. xD08:23
ZataHdaryl_: it because when you "su" you choose to log in as root08:23
ciphex_ArrenLex: failed to find the card.08:23
wickedpuppydaryl_, what do you need root to run ? use sudo instead08:23
ArrenLexMZM: what if you pinned it to the exact version you have rather than * ?08:23
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ArrenLexciphex: yeah, I guess ALSA doesn't support it. Sorry.08:24
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daryl_wickedpuppy: aren't I allowed to log in as root?08:24
NoobZaibotMZM : do u have any ideas ?08:24
ArrenLexwicked: I have no life, okay? Who asked you?08:24
ZataHdaryl_: you have to set a root password then08:24
ciphex_strange. it's a SBLive! EMU10K1 device08:24
wickedpuppy!sudo08:24
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ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:24
daryl_ZataH: hrm where do I do that?08:24
daryl_oh i see08:24
daryl_thanks08:25
wickedpuppydaryl_, kindly read that link08:25
MZMNoobZaibot: make menuconfig->processor type and features->timer frequency08:25
ZataHadministration > user & groups08:25
ciphex_so... is there any reason I shouldn't try the OSS drivers?08:25
ArrenLexciphex: no, if ALSA won't cut it for you, go ahead.08:25
MZMArrenLex: tnx, worked.08:25
ZataHdaryl_: but else sudo yourcommandhere08:26
NoobZaiboti don't have the timer frequency option in my menuconfig08:26
daryl_wickedpuppy: ok i'm just gonna use sudo since I oviously dont' understand the differences.08:26
wickedpuppydaryl_, welcome to ubuntu :P08:26
daryl_ZataH: excuse me, but how do I run a script?  a .sh file.08:26
daryl_I thought you typed ./filename.sh08:26
ZataH./filename08:26
ArrenLexdaryl: sudo = you have to type sudo every time. su = become root once, do whatever you want until you log out.08:27
wickedpuppyyah08:27
wickedpuppy..08:27
wickedpuppywhy you need root access ?08:27
ArrenLexdaryl: "sh filename"08:27
ciphex_ok... they are  a piece of work in themselves08:27
NoobZaibotMZM : i don't have the timer frequency option in my menuconfig08:27
ciphex_the installer is throwing errors at me left and right... im trying to resolve them all08:27
daryl_ArrenLex: thanks tons.08:28
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daryl_ArrenLex: sudo sh filename fixed my problem08:28
nysosymhi everyone! :))))08:28
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ArrenLexdaryl: why are you running a script for which you need to be root? o_o08:28
wickedpuppydaryl_, why do you need sudo to run a shell script ?08:28
wickedpuppyi don't get it08:28
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daryl_wickedpuppy: was trying to run a script that downloaded allt he packages I needed08:29
wickedpuppyautomatix by any chance ?08:29
ArrenLexOh. Okay.08:29
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mneptoki *loathe* those scripts08:29
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mneptokthey are a support nightmare08:29
daryl_wickedpuppy: just a bunch of dependancies that weren't installed w/the clean install08:29
wickedpuppyyah .. the auto download scripts are not recommended here daryl_ cause they will cause a lot of confusion later08:30
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EvilpigsterFinally after Googling around I fixed it. :D08:30
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wickedpuppyyou won't know what is installed and if you ask us for help later it will take a lot of work to track where is it that is wrong08:30
daryl_wickedpuppy: I'd actually installed all of them manually apparently.  I'd just wanted to run the script to make sure I hadn't missed anything.  I hadn't fortunately08:30
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mneptokand i can say "use of those automated installer scripts is officially discouraged "08:31
mneptok:)08:31
daryl_rofl08:31
mneptokno offense to the script authors, who had their hearts in the right place08:31
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daryl_ok i'll avoid such scripts, now to see if I can install my program.08:31
MZMNoobZaibot: well - it's there since 2.6.0? Your on x86?08:31
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vladuz976how mature is the apt-get upgrade method when upgrading distro?08:31
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MZMvladuz976: apt-get dist-upgrade08:32
wickedpuppyvladuz976, how mature ? people been doing it for 4 or 5 times ....08:32
NoobZaibotMZM: I am downloading this http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.14.tar.bz2 and trying to recompile08:32
wickedpuppyi did it 3 times already08:32
daryl_wickedpuppy, mneptok, ArrenLex: thanks guys that took care of me.08:32
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vladuz976what about third party packages?08:32
MZMNoobZaibot: if You use vanilla, then use recent version. And - are you on x86?08:32
NoobZaibotMZM: I am using an Intel PIV HT 3.2 Ghz08:32
wickedpuppyvladuz976, such as ... nvidia drivers ?08:32
surfacethird party packages?08:32
daryl_I'm going to go ahead and close IRC now.  thanks again.08:33
mneptokvladuz976: if they exist in your currently active repos for the new version of Ubuntu, they will be upgraded08:33
MZMNoobZaibot: it's x86 or AMD64?08:33
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NoobZaibotx8608:33
^Ocean^in ##Linux08:33
wickedpuppysometimes they do break ... i got my X broke once .. but i fixed it easily ...08:33
vladuz976wickedpuppy: for instance08:33
NoobZaibotMZM : Intel P4 = x8608:33
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MZMNoobZaibot: well, there are AMD64 versions of P4 :)08:34
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MZMNoobZaibot: use 2.6.2808:34
MZMs/28/18/08:34
wickedpuppyMZM, you mean amd also sells pentium4 ?08:34
NoobZaibotMZM : do u have direct link for download with wget ?08:34
Jason_Dhello ^^08:34
MZMwickedpuppy: no, AMD64 is just 64 bit architecture08:35
NoobZaibotMZM : U just cracked my brain with that AMD64 thing. The Intel 64 Bit arch is EM6408:35
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wickedpuppyyah but you said there are amd64 version of p4 ...08:35
ArrenLexI'm going to crash. See you guys later! Glad I could help someone.08:35
Jason_Dcan anybody help me?08:35
ArrenLex!ask08:35
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:35
wickedpuppy!ask08:35
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Jason_Dok. :D08:35
NoobZaibotMZM : I'll use 2.6.18, latest stable kernel version08:36
wickedpuppythe bot wins08:36
mneptokNoobZaibot: you'll want the 686 kernel, and not the stock i38608:36
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^Ocean^is the 686 kernel better than the stalk one ?08:36
NoobZaibotmneptok: I changed it in Processor Type at Menuconfig08:36
ArrenLexstock? xD08:37
kromelquestion, i'm using an AMD Sempron processor, the k7 kernel the proper one for me to use?08:37
ArrenLexOcean: if that's your arch, 686 is better than 386, yeah.08:37
mneptok^Ocean^: the 686 kernel is certainly better if you have a PII or better08:37
MZMwickedpuppy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd6408:37
Jason_D!ask i just started with linux and i heard that ubuntu is easiest to start with but i have problems starting it.08:37
^Ocean^well i got an AMD AthalonXP2400 :S08:37
ArrenLexkromel: if you have a dual-core CPU, you need an -smp kernel.08:37
wickedpuppythis conversation reminds me of gentoo forum ...08:37
mneptokkromel: did you install the i386 or AMD64 version of Ubuntu?08:37
mneptok^Ocean^: you'll want the K7 kernel on i386, the K8 on AMD6408:38
NoobZaibotmneptok : The kernel that i am downloading now http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.18.tar.bz2 is not optimized for i686 ? I thought that selecting the type in menuconfig was enough08:38
kromelmneptok, i38608:38
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mneptokkromel: yes, K708:38
mneptokNoobZaibot: if you're compiling it yourself, it's not an issue08:38
kromelmneptok, okay, that's what I'm on now.  thanks for the clarification.08:38
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mneptokkromel: using a K7 kernel gets you things like 3DNow! calls and other AMD-specific extension support to improve overall performance08:39
MZMwickedpuppy: and what? Gentoo was too gar 4u? ;)08:39
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MZMs/gar/hard/08:39
mneptokgar. arr. me hearty.08:40
wickedpuppynope ... the forum was great08:40
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ciphex_can anyone suggest a cheap PCI sound card that will work with ALSA drivers. (running xUbuntu)08:40
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wickedpuppylook at the talks08:40
wickedpuppywe are talking about architectures08:40
wickedpuppyyou hardly see it outside of gentoo forums08:40
wickedpuppysince most distros come with a vanilla kernel08:40
mneptokciphex_: what part of the world arte you in?08:41
mneptok-t08:41
ciphex_US. East coast.08:41
MZMwickedpuppy: Oh, now I see. I also use Gentoo, so this konversation was OK for me :)08:41
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frying_fishciphex_: any of the cheaper creative cards.08:41
mneptokciphex_: sec08:41
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XZEKUTIONanybody still awake?08:42
wickedpuppynope08:42
XZEKUTION:(08:42
frying_fishsome people just woke up08:42
XZEKUTIONI need hewp08:42
MZMXZEKUTION: still awake? your kidding! I just got up.08:42
wickedpuppyits afternoon here ...08:42
wickedpuppy2:45 pm08:42
mneptokciphex_: mind if i paste you a URL to PM?08:42
XZEKUTIONIt's 1:45AM08:42
MZMit's 9 am08:42
XZEKUTIONCentral U.S.08:42
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ciphex_mneptok: please do08:43
MDCore08:42am :D08:43
XZEKUTIONyou guys ubuntu experts?08:43
MDCoreAh.. the lovely freenode tradition of "What time is it where you are?!!? "08:43
MZMex-prets??08:43
wickedpuppy!ask08:43
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:43
XZEKUTIONmy Ubuntu clock and my WinXP clock keep messing each other up and I can't figure out what the deal is08:43
wickedpuppyi got a solution ... format winxp ... solved!08:44
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MZMXP uses local time for clock, Ubuntu - UTM08:44
mneptokXZEKUTION: tell the XP clock that it's timezone is UTC08:44
mneptok*its08:44
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XZEKUTIONIf I reboot from WinXP back to WinXP it's fine, but if I boot from WinXP and reboot to Ubuntu, the clock will be off on Ubuntu, and then it will be off when i go back to WinXP too08:44
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GreenCulthi all08:44
XZEKUTIONUTC ?08:44
mneptokXZEKUTION: Ubuntu sets the hardware clock to UTC and converts from there to your local time. XP sets the hardware clock to your local time.08:44
XZEKUTIONwhat is UTC08:44
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mneptokUniversal Time Coordinated08:45
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mneptokwhich right now is GMT-108:45
XZEKUTIONwill it still be the time I am used to or will it be the 24hour clock that I'm unaccustomed to08:45
XZEKUTIONI like the 12hr clocks08:45
frying_fishahh yes, windows needs the hardware clock to be set to localtime (stupid thing) so you will need to go to here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201690&highlight=clock+times+changing+xp08:45
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mneptokthe display of the time (12 vs 24 hours) will not be affected08:45
frying_fishit is fairly simple to sort, right click on the clock, then untick the UTC option08:45
XZEKUTIONI don't need to do anything to Ubuntu, just WinXP ?08:45
mneptokcorrect08:46
frying_fishXZEKUTION: no, you need to do this in ubuntu08:46
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frying_fishleave win xp alone, just whilst in ubuntu next right click the clock, then untick UTC in preferences08:46
XZEKUTIONoooooh08:46
XZEKUTIONI thought it was a WinXP problem08:46
frying_fishnope, it is a win xp problem, but the fix is in linux.08:47
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mneptokXZEKUTION: you can also use a registry hack, but that's somewhat uglier08:47
XZEKUTIONis it possible to listen to my music that I have on WinXP once I am in Ubuntu08:47
|thunderXZEKUTION; look in /media/hda108:48
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frying_fishXZEKUTION: yes,08:48
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frying_fish|thunder: that may be incorrect for his partitioning or devices08:49
PunjabiFLOYDIANguys. i need to update my firefox. can u plesae tell how08:49
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frying_fishPunjabiFLOYDIAN: are you using the default one that came with ubuntu?08:49
PunjabiFLOYDIANhmm. yup!08:49
|thunderitll get him looking in the right direction08:49
PunjabiFLOYDIANi tried using the update manger no luck08:49
frying_fish|thunder: no, it really won't08:49
frying_fishPunjabiFLOYDIAN: then it is most likely at the most recent version08:50
mneptokPunjabiFLOYDIAN: why do you need a Firefox newer than what is in the repositories?08:50
frying_fishPunjabiFLOYDIAN: what does the about bit tell you?08:50
PunjabiFLOYDIANok its old08:50
PunjabiFLOYDIANwhats the latest version08:50
PunjabiFLOYDIANmine is 1.508:50
XZEKUTIONwhen I am in Ubuntu, how do I get desktop icons?08:50
mneptoklatest is 1.5.0.708:50
XZEKUTIONI've seen screenshots of people who have really cool desktops08:50
PunjabiFLOYDIANmine is 1.5.0.508:50
frying_fishPunjabiFLOYDIAN: you are most likely running 1.5.0.708:50
mneptokXZEKUTION: icons for what?08:50
wickedpuppyXZEKUTION, you mean the button thats close all the windows ?08:51
PunjabiFLOYDIANLOL. how can i update my software? the update link in firefox is deactivated08:51
XZEKUTIONmusic, browser, documents, programs etc08:51
wickedpuppyif it is then its at bottom left edge08:51
FlannelPunjabiFLOYDIAN: you update it through update-manager, all of the fixes from 1.5.0.7 are included in the current version from ubuntu08:51
PunjabiFLOYDIANok guys thanks a lot.08:51
mneptokPunjabiFLOYDIAN: uhhhh ... you use the Update Manager app in Ubuntu to update software. not update utilities inside the apps themselves.08:51
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XZEKUTIONupdating and installing stuff is the hardest part about ubuntu08:52
XZEKUTIONand downloading too08:52
wickedpuppyXZEKUTION, SEEN SYNAPTIC ?08:53
wickedpuppyopps08:53
XZEKUTIONyes08:53
wickedpuppypardon my caps08:53
wickedpuppythats hard ?08:53
XZEKUTIONthere is so much stuff on those repositories.. how do you know what you want.. whats good and what is crap08:53
jendaHow can I make Ubuntu blank the screen when the lappy lid is closed, but not lock it?08:53
wickedpuppyclearly you never managed windows before ...08:53
jenda(since it refuses to accept my password after locking)08:54
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XZEKUTIONwickedpuppy: what?08:54
wickedpuppyXZEKUTION, do you know whats the best burning software for windows ?08:54
XZEKUTIONnero08:54
wickedpuppyhow did you know ?08:54
abhinayI want to run servlet programs of java in Ubuntu, and i want to install tomcat server help me.08:55
XZEKUTIONbc i've heard a lot about it, and I've used it before08:55
jendaI don't see how knowing it for Windows is any easier than knowing it for Ubuntu, wickedpuppy...08:55
wickedpuppyi can think of more than 20 other burning softwares08:55
FlannelXZEKUTION: until you get familiar with programs, you don't really (know what's good/not), you have to do some research, or trust what's in main (which is fully supported by ubuntu, meaning it's somewhat guarenteed quality), you can search synaptic, or packages.ubuntu.com, etc.08:55
wickedpuppydownload.com has tons08:55
wickedpuppyXZEKUTION, precisely ...08:55
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CromagDKcd burner xp pro08:55
jendalol08:55
wickedpuppyXZEKUTION, slowly you will know which is good and which is crap08:55
wickedpuppyjenda, now you get my message ?08:55
XZEKUTIONgive me suggestions08:55
jendawickedpuppy: yep, sorry, was meant for XZEKUTION08:56
wickedpuppyfor ?08:56
XZEKUTIONwhen I'm on WinXP I use Yahoo Jukebox to listen to the radio.. what options does Ubuntu have08:56
CromagDKi liked Cd burner XP pr08:56
CromagDKwith an o08:56
jendaXZEKUTION: AmaroK, I recomend.08:56
mneptokXZEKUTION: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?08:56
XZEKUTIONUbuntu08:56
Yasuoxmms08:56
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mneptokXZEKUTION: Rhythmbox or Banshee08:56
Yasuomplayer :P08:56
XZEKUTIONtheres 308:56
XZEKUTIONwhich of those 3 is the best08:56
jendaYasuo: please...08:57
XZEKUTIONI want one that will work the first time, and have good music08:57
XZEKUTIONnothing crappy08:57
mneptokXZEKUTION: Amarok is nice, but will require you to download and install all the KDE libraries. kinda overkill just for a music player.08:57
YasuoXZEKUTION, there is no BEST, asking for best player only makes ppl flaming around08:57
jendaXZEKUTION: Up to personal preference. There are many more for Windows, and Yahoo Jukebox is hardly the best.08:57
wickedpuppyXZEKUTION, you want OSX ...08:57
XZEKUTIONI just want to listen to the radio, i dont want anything crazy08:57
wickedpuppylinux doesnt work that way08:57
wickedpuppytry and choose the one you want ...08:57
mneptokXZEKUTION: Rhythmbox is already installed. try it.08:58
XZEKUTIONalright08:58
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Yasuoxmms is fine for hearing musikc, if you want more playlist and music managing use amarok or so08:58
XZEKUTIONi dont want playlists of my own music i want radio08:58
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XZEKUTIONall my MP3s got erased, and i dont feel like downloading them all again08:58
XZEKUTIONi had like 4,00008:58
Yasuolol baka08:58
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wickedpuppythats .. not a lot really if you ask me08:59
wickedpuppyi got 7 or so gig ..08:59
XZEKUTIONit will suck even more if you lose them all08:59
m4rkhow come photoshop doesn't work with wine????08:59
Yasuo/me mas 1/008:59
mneptokwickedpuppy: 30K mp3s is ~125GB08:59
Yasuom4rk, its a windows program08:59
wickedpuppyYasuo, wine runs windows programs08:59
Yasuocrossoveroffice is specialized for photoshop08:59
Yasuowickedpuppy, oh, rly?09:00
frying_fishmneptok: why can't you use xmms? 30'000, does that go past a file limit? as it certainly copes with my 15k fine09:00
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wickedpuppy!wine09:00
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:00
XZEKUTIONis Wine preinstalled with Ubuntu or do i have to try and figure out how to get it on my computer09:00
frying_fishXZEKUTION: apt-get install wine09:00
mneptokfrying_fish: browsing 30K mp3s by filename is a *drag*09:00
wickedpuppyXZEKUTION, as usual sudo apt-get install wine09:00
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XZEKUTIONlast time i installed wine it went crazy on me09:00
frying_fishyou say "browsing" you can always use the jump feature09:00
YasuoXZEKUTION is Wine preinstalled with Ubuntu or do i have to try and figure out how to get it on my computer <<< it really doesnt matter does it?09:00
XZEKUTIONmade my screen flash to black over and over again09:00
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mneptokfrying_fish: trust me, managing what music you want to hear when you have 30,000 songs to choose from is a lot easier with Rhythmbox, Banshee, or some other "music library" meme app09:01
YasuoXZEKUTION, try before asking09:01
XZEKUTIONI dont know all of the console commands for linux09:01
XZEKUTIONi dont know apt etc09:01
wickedpuppyYasuo, relax .. its ok to ask :P09:02
mneptokXZEKUTION: few people do.09:02
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Yasuoxzakox, you can use the gui09:02
frying_fishahh, well I am currently using audacious, which is starting to think about a music library, but I have never really found the need.09:02
MZMmneptok: I think - no one knows ALL of them09:02
Yasuoaptutude iirc?09:02
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tristan_hi, i have question about openoffice09:02
YasuoXZEKUTION,  apt-cache search program09:02
XZEKUTIONI'm boot to ubuntu, be right back09:02
YasuoXZEKUTION,  then: apt-get install exactprogramname09:02
XZEKUTIONthanks for your hel09:02
frying_fishXZEKUTION: open the "package manager" which is synaptic in ubuntu and adept (I think) in kubuntu09:02
XZEKUTIONhelp*09:03
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Yasuowhy reboot?09:03
tristan_I am using openoffice impress(presentation). how can i add an element(for example a text control) that will apply to all new slides09:03
XZEKUTIONi cant get there from here09:03
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XZEKUTIONI'm on WinXP right now09:04
YasuoXZEKUTION, then install xchat and come back then at least09:04
tristan_i am trying to create an open office template, do have any references?09:04
XZEKUTIONI have xchat on ubuntu09:04
XZEKUTIONi'll brb09:04
Yasuo;)09:04
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faisal_dmorning... where is the smbusers file located in dapper? i can't find it in /etc/samba/smbusers09:06
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abhinayhow to start tomcat server ?09:07
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Adrosswhich app should I use to resize an ogg theora video?09:08
wickedpuppyabhinay, ah can ask in #java or #tomcat ?09:08
Skitzo1989is there a mpeg codec for "movie player"?09:09
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AdrossSkitzo1989:09:09
Adrossyeh, give me a second09:09
Skitzo1989ok09:09
Flannelabhinay: the 'tomcat5' package09:09
Adrosshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29%7C%28formats%2909:09
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mofOk so I have a 117 gig partition for /home I'm using 6.4 gig with 60.7 gig free- now i could be wrong but doesn't that leave 110 gig? where is the other ~40 gig?09:12
xicasvaldeleas09:13
faisal_dmof, check your disks and partitions for the missing space09:14
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mofim not sure what you mean?09:15
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LookTJmof: gparted09:15
wickedpuppydf -h09:16
LookTJon livecd09:16
faisal_dfor visual gui try to go to system -> administration -> disks.. it'll give you all infromation you need09:16
mofthe /home partition shows 117 but lists it's free space as the ~60 gig.09:16
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faisal_dmof, your home is 117 G, you are 60 free... where is the problem??09:17
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mofwith it's 'contents' using ~6.4 gig09:18
LookTJmof: resize the partition, take 1 MB away09:18
faisal_dah... i see09:18
ciphex_how does the kernel-source package differ from the linux-source package?09:18
LookTJthen resize and put the 1 MB back09:18
theguycan some one help me...i cant seem to rum video streams from websites09:18
LookTJit happened to my 250 GB once before09:19
zappewhy doesn't work with "named.* @computer" in syslog for logging?09:19
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LookTJi got one problem here09:19
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mofLookTJ thanks but that seems like a good way to loose some data, is there a documented bug with ext3?09:20
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LookTJ1 MB09:20
LookTJ?09:20
LookTJthat's won't do anything to lose data09:20
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Sabagoodmorning09:21
anilomkarhow to install JSDK in ubuntu??09:21
mofi might just back some things up first anyway. ;P09:21
LookTJgood evening saba09:21
Sabait's 9.30 am here LookTJ09:22
faisal_danilomaker, download it, chmod a+x, then run it09:22
LookTJ12:22 AM here09:22
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LookTJ:P09:22
Alex232Hello!09:22
LookTJHi09:22
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Sabahello Alex23209:22
ciphex_can anyone tell me the differences between the kernel-source and linux-source packages?09:22
Alex232Do anybody use eagle-usb?09:23
LookTJhey anilomkar i help with that09:23
Alex232I mean ADSL driver09:23
faisal_di can't find my /etc/samba/smbusers file... can anybody tell me where it's located?09:24
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mneptokfaisal_d: "locate smbusers"09:24
Alex232Eagle-usb is a driver for ADSL modems like Sagem and others. I can't install this one09:24
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faisal_dmneptok, it doesn't return anything!!09:25
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LookTJfaisal_d I have my jsdk in a .deb package09:25
LookTJ:)09:25
mneptokfaisal_d: "sudo updatedb && locate smbusers"09:25
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Xzekutionanybody here09:26
faisal_dlookTj, really? whre did you get it form? java.sun.com only have binary or rpm09:26
XzekutionI think I messed something up09:26
LookTJI made it09:26
Alex232if to use official instructions, after configure command eagle-usb reports that it can't find gcc, cc and something else. Is there gcc in Ubuntu Dapper?09:27
faisal_dxzekution, don't ask to ask a question.. just ask09:27
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LookTJfaisal_d i made it myself09:27
XzekutionI was using WinXP a minute ago when I was in here.. and I booted to Ubuntu.. and it wouldn't work09:27
XzekutionI got some kind of graphics X error09:27
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Xzekutionand I'm using the LiveCD right now09:27
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faisal_dlookTj, sweeeeet :)09:27
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anilomkarLookTJ, please help me09:28
anilomkarLookTJ, what to do?09:28
XzekutionHow do I uninstall the beta version of Ubuntu and go back to Dapper09:28
LookTJi need to update it though09:28
mneptokfaisal_d: Sun's JRE, JDK, and JDSK are in the apt repos09:28
Xzekutionor do I have to reinstall Ubuntu from the LiveCD09:28
Alex232So, is there gcc in Ubuntu???09:28
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mneptokAlex232: sudo apt-get install build-essentials09:28
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jack_where to talk about edgy?09:29
Xzekutionmneptok :(09:29
mneptokjack_: #ubuntu+109:29
Alex232mneptok: what will this do?09:29
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LookTJ!edgy09:29
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:29
LookTJ;)09:29
Alex232mneptok: install gcc?09:29
mneptokAlex232: install gcc and other programs neede to build anything09:29
mneptok*needed09:30
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Alex232mneptok: ok! i'll try it now, thanks09:30
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xzkmneptok, can you help me09:31
^Ocean^anyone get vmware working on Edgy ?09:31
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fuffaloi used apt get to install some software, how do i uninstall it if it's not in my add/remove list?09:32
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faisal_dxzk don't ask to ask, just ask09:32
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xzkfaisal_d: I already did :(09:32
mneptokxzk: check ~/.xsession-errors09:32
xzkmneptotk: can I do that from the LiveCD ?09:33
xzkthats what I'm using now09:33
mneptokxzk: mount the Ubuntu partition on the hard drive and loook at it09:33
LookTJmaking sun-j2sk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb atm09:33
NoobZaibotmneptok : do u know if the xfs support is normally needed ?09:33
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xzkmneptok: with GParted?09:34
xzkmneptok: using GParted?09:35
Skitzo1981which version of java do i need to download for Ubuntu?09:35
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Lob1hi09:36
Madpilot!java09:36
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:36
Lob1does anyone have the .deb for compiz-manager plz ?09:36
xzkLob1: are you a Pro at using Ubuntu09:36
Lob1xzk > no sorry :/09:36
^Ocean^Lobl: beryl09:36
MadpilotSkitzo1981, check ubotu above ^^^09:37
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LookTJanyone want sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb?09:37
xzkLob1: bummer09:37
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LookTJjava from ubuntu isn't uptodate09:38
LookTJno offense09:38
xzkhow do I uninstall Edgy and go back to Dapper09:38
xzkEdgy won't boot for me09:38
^Ocean^xzk: ffr :P09:38
^Ocean^ffr rather09:38
xzkffr?09:38
^Ocean^fdisk format recover :)09:38
LookTJwhat's ffr?09:38
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LookTJoh09:38
Skitzo1981Ubunto doesnt use RPM's does it?09:38
xzkhow do i do that ocean09:38
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LookTJnope09:38
^Ocean^lol09:39
^Ocean^umm09:39
Admiral_ChicagoSkitzo1981, no .deb09:39
LookTJyou want sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb09:39
LookTJ?09:39
^Ocean^re-install drapper thats how :)09:39
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faisal_dskitzo you can use alient to install RPMs, but it's experimental09:39
Admiral_Chicagobut you can change a .rpm to deb by using alien, but you have to install it firsh09:39
xzkocean: am i better off reinstalling from the LiveCD09:39
Admiral_Chicagoit's always worked for me09:39
^Ocean^pritty much so yeah...09:39
xzkalright cool09:39
xzkthats not too bad09:39
^Ocean^altho u might just wanna fix edgy09:39
xzki was hoping that.. bc i downloaded too much crap on my linux with the synaptic.. it was messy09:40
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xzkOcean: how do i fix edgy lol09:40
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LookTJ!edgy09:40
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:40
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^Ocean^well would have to figure out whats wrong with it :)09:40
xzkit looks like a scary error09:40
faisal_d!schedule09:40
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule09:40
xzki think i better reinstall dapper09:40
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xzkWish me luck with the reinstall09:41
openeduI am having trouble removing a package with apt-get09:41
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Admiral_Chicagoopenedu, what package?09:42
openedui receive the following error: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:42
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^Ocean^ur prolyl running another instance of apt09:42
openeduAdmiral_Chicago, it is libdb4.4, although the error appears to be a locking error09:42
^Ocean^or a package manager09:42
Admiral_Chicagoopenedu, or something else may be sudo09:42
Admiral_Chicagoare you using the package? thought it might be in /lock09:43
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openeduhmm, is there a way to query such things?09:43
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LookTJopenedu, close either the terminal or package manager09:44
pcdealHelp I have trouble with delivering to Maildir with fetchmail and procmail in courier-imap09:44
faisal_dwhen i run the testparm command i get the following: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: n. How can i find out which line that is?09:45
openedu^Ocean^, I may have a package manager running, but I don't know how to locate it.  I am running a fairly standard install of ubuntu, so most things are defaults09:45
^Ocean^well u need to turn it off to use apt09:45
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Admiral_Chicagoopenedu, in the terminal type pstree09:46
Admiral_Chicagoand if you see something branching of sudo or su, it is using root privilages09:46
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openeduAdmiral_Chicago, I do not see anything running under sudo.  I also do not see any evidence of a running package manager (like the update notifier?), but i'm not sure what to look for09:47
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mneptokopenedu: ps aux | grep db09:48
mneptokopenedu: what does that tell  you?09:48
Admiral_Chicagobed time09:48
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openedumneptok, that gives me dbus-daemon and similar, nothing with libdb09:50
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mneptokopenedu: running a *SQL instance?09:50
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openedumneptok, I just stopped my 'mysql' instance.  i'll past the pstree for you09:51
asmo674hurthow i can edit particions of HDD after OS instalation??09:51
^Ocean^asmo674hurt, qtpartedit09:52
mneptokopenedu: it's probably MySQL that's causing the lockfiles on the libdb stuff.09:52
openedumneptok, http://paste.lisp.org/display/2732109:52
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asmo674hurt^Ocean^, ?09:53
oronetahola, buenos dias a todos09:53
^Ocean^QTPart i think it might be called09:53
^Ocean^or qtpard edit09:53
^Ocean^search google for it .09:54
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daryl_excuse me, I just shared a folder on my computer using smb.  I'm not sure why, but on my other linux computer I cna't see it.  When I go to my other linux computer I now see a "ubuntu" computer, but when I double click on it, nothing is shared.  Any suggestions?09:54
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openedumneptok, i don't see how exactly since I stopped mysql.  mysql is also not configured to use berkeley db.09:54
openedui amended my paste to include the apt error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/27321#109:55
l-formHello everybody I just wonder isn't this a violation of the GPL when somebody sells ubuntu distros?09:55
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faisal_dI-form, no... it's completely legal09:55
oronetasorry, any channel to speak spanish about ubuntu??09:55
faisal_d!spanish09:55
mofOk i umounted /home and now x-server spits errors and no gtk programs will start, any sugestions?09:55
Rookie!es09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:55
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:55
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daryl_!smb09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
oronetathank09:56
faisal_doroneta, de nada ;)09:56
oronetagracias ;-)09:56
mattiMorning.09:56
Rookiel-form - no, you can sell it , if you sell something with it, i.e support09:56
RookieSuse selling too, they sell the books and manuals09:57
daryl_Excuse me, did anyone know the answer to my question?  : )  dont' wanna nag anyone.09:57
oronetabye!09:57
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Rookie!samba09:57
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:57
l-formRookie: what they sell is a ubuntu installation cd only09:57
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mneptokopenedu: have you tried rebooting into the safe runlevel and uninstalling?09:58
mattiI need to ask - it is possible, that perlinked system may not work well after hibernating 'em? I mean, sometimes when I wake my desktop from hibernation applications are not working or I cannot start any software. No errors in dmesg or logs. It is very odd.09:58
Rookiethats wrong, they need to sell something with it, not only the distro ... maybe they charge for the cd ... ?09:58
openeduopenedu, no.  i just deleted the lock file, though09:58
faisal_dI-form, AFAIK, as long as you say it's Ubuntu, you can sell it... users always have the freedom to get it for free if they want to09:58
faisal_drookie, yes, probably they charge for CD, and saving you time to download.. i suppose09:59
SurfnKidwhats a good network management software package09:59
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l-formrookie: probably, they charge 1 USD for that, so that must be the story, but still, those cds look like they'd been shipped free-of-charge by canonical to them10:00
mneptokl-form: do you have a URL for these people?10:00
openedui am also having a lot of trouble getting a functioning lisp environment on ubuntu.  i cannot figure out how to install CMUCL 19c, for which there is no binary package despite a buggy 19a--the included version10:01
daryl_Hey Rookie, do I have to go through allt hat Samba stuff to be able to transfer files on a linux box?10:01
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zzarrhello10:01
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Rookiesamba is easy, just install it and config smb.conf and set a user with smbpasswd10:02
xzkhey guys, is there any software for Ubuntu or Linux for C++ ? like MSVC++10:02
l-formso if canonical sends you free installation cds, wouldn't that be a violation to sell them to anybody?10:02
SteilWhere can i blacklist modules from loading?10:02
faisal_ddaryl_ if you don't want to mess with config files yourself, try isntalling webmin10:02
Rookieand dont forget to restart it after your done10:02
xzkso i can do my computer science homework10:02
mneptokxzk: do you want syntax highlighting in a text editor, or a full-fledged IDE>10:03
Rookieall configs in linux is to be found in /etc10:03
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mneptok?10:03
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zzarrI have a gigant problem... X it won't start10:03
zzarrit puts my monitor in sleep mode10:03
Sabazzarr, what does it say in the log file10:03
xzkmneptok: whats the difference? I don't really know what I want.. I just want something that will work10:03
xzkin my class we use MSVC++10:03
zzarrwhat log file?10:03
Saba/var/log/xorg.log or something like that10:04
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mneptokxzk: a text editor with syntax highlighting is much, MUCH easier to get set up and use.10:04
Sabawait a minute10:04
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zzarrlooking it up now10:04
l-formpeople, who can clarify the reselling issue and possible related violations10:04
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xzkmneptok: do you have suggestions for a text editor and IDE ?10:04
faisal_dxzk, eclipse with the c++ plugin is an amazing IDE10:05
mneptokxzk: well, start with the built-in text editor10:05
Sabaor gdm log or kdm log or something zzarr10:05
mneptokxzk: it does C++ syntax highlighting10:05
Rookieabout gpl - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt10:05
Rookie!gpl10:05
ubotugpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html10:05
xzkI'm not sure if I would know how to use a text editor... in my class we are learning to use MSVC++  ... i think it is IDE10:05
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mattik, I assume, that nobody have similar problems... well then.10:06
matti;] 10:06
xzkfaisal_d: where can i find eclipse and the C++ plugin10:07
mofmneptok: you don't get a gui designer with eclipse do you? just asking because I'm starting out with c# and mono.10:07
mneptokxzk: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html10:07
faisal_dthey should be in the repos10:07
mneptokmof: no idea. never used eclipse.10:07
mofright cheers10:07
xzkmof you c++ ?10:07
l-formthanx gonna study it10:07
mofno, c# is a bit different.10:08
zzarris there no driver for ATI Radeon X800 XT PE?10:09
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mneptokmof: http://www.monodevelop.com/Main_Page10:09
zzarronly ATI Radeon X800 XT?10:09
mofxzk: you could try #C++ irc channel, really I probably know less than anyother ;P10:10
xzkthanks mof10:10
zzarrwell PE only tells one it's running att a higher rate10:11
zzarr(Hz)10:11
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tuskerniniARE there any Engineers using ubuntu here?10:11
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dario314I'm an engineer but it has nothing to do with my using Ubuntu right now10:12
tuskerninidario314, do you know of a nice program doing signal analysis in ubuntu?10:12
dario314Can someone give me a gnutella host? Any host? This thing doesn't seem to come with a host list...10:12
dario314I've been using Ubuntu for about 24 hours, so...no :)10:13
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tuskerninidario314, normal modulation and transforms10:13
tuskerninihehe10:13
tuskerniniok10:13
mneptokdario314: "this thing?"10:13
l-formafter reading gpl as I grasp it, anyone can get cds from canonoical for free and then sell em to some poor bastard and make money outta nothin? is this normal?10:13
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dario314mutella. I have it. It runs... doesn't connect to anything.10:13
mneptokl-form: depends on how they do it10:14
anilomkarhow to install tomcat server in Ubuntu please help me???10:14
zzarrthe log says "(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" this can't be good10:14
faisal_dtuskernini: i am no engineer.. but these might help: http://www.opensound.com/ossapps.html10:14
mneptokl-form: Ubuntu is a trademarked name. they cannot use that name when selling CDs.10:14
tuskerninifaisal_d, thank you will try it10:15
dario314I think if I connect to one gnutella host, I'll get a list of other hosts... but I don't have a single one to try.10:15
mneptokdario314: you shouldn't need an initial address.10:15
anilomkari want tomcat server in my Ubuntu what to do?10:16
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dario314How not? mutella loads, but it doesn't connect to any hosts, it has no cached hosts... nothing10:17
erUSUL!info tomcat510:17
ubotutomcat5: Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.30-9 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 336 kB10:17
mneptokdario314: what flavor of Ubuntu are you using?10:17
dario314Xubuntu dapper10:17
mneptokdario314: try gtk-gnutella10:17
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l-formmnepok: there's this site that says hey go ahead and buy newest ubuntu dapper drake form us (xubuntu and kubuntu too) and i seriuously believe that those cds they sell come from free canonical ltd shipment10:18
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l-formmneptok sorry for misspelling your nick10:19
mneptokl-form: got a URL?10:20
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NoobZaibotcan i update from the badger to the dapper via sshd ?10:20
mneptokl-form: it is 100% OK to resell CDs. it is 100% NOT ok to use our corporate trademarks to do so without permission.10:20
NoobZaibotor its necessary to be in front of the pc ?10:20
mneptokNoobZaibot: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:21
l-formmneptok: yeah its ukrainian thou, but i guess u'll be able to understand the page http://opensource.com.ua/products.php?info=p1293_Xubuntu-6-06-Dapper-desktop--1CD-.html10:21
NoobZaibotmneptok : Do you know how could i recompile the kernel after the update to modify the timer frequency ?10:21
mneptokl-form: spassibo10:22
mneptokNoobZaibot: timer frequency? as in the clock?10:22
l-formmneptok: bud laska10:22
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NoobZaibotmneptok : Yes, it comes by default in 250 Hz, i wanna increase it to 1000 hz10:23
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joobieHi Guys.. Just curious if anyone here has completed their CISSP?10:23
mneptokNoobZaibot: for timekeeping purposes?10:24
NoobZaibotmneptok : No, i need it for tweaking a game server10:24
mneptokNoobZaibot: then you'll need kernel source and the proper compile time flags10:25
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dario314mneptok, gtk-gnutella works better. Nicer interface too. Thanks!10:25
mneptokNoobZaibot: and i don't know those off the top of my head. but i'm sure it's documented.10:25
mneptokdario314: np. glad you're happy. :)10:26
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l-formmneptok: so what do u think bout that? shall it be submitted as a violation?10:27
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mneptokl-form: talking to management now. thanks.10:27
NoobZaibotmneptok : yes but i am trying to recompile the kernel now and i am getting errors as hell10:27
NoobZaibotmy first kernel recompilation :)10:27
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mneptokNoobZaibot: kernel compilation is not something easily explained in the context of IRC. but there are a lot of really good tutorials. before you dive in, do some reading about "water," and "bathing suits." ;)10:28
NoobZaibotmneptok: i know. I am trying to recompile it just for that Hz rate. All the tutorials say that it would be easy ! X)10:29
jwhitlarkThe problem is that once someone is good enough to write a tutorial, it is easy for them!10:30
NoobZaibottrue.10:31
daurn|afkwhats an app for burning audio cds that supports .wma?10:31
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daurn|afkK3b doesn't10:32
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l-formgnome baker?10:33
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hastesaverhello. The root partition is full, what can I do?10:33
NoobZaibotsuicide.10:33
jpjacobsdaurn|afk, i'd convert the wma's to something else with like mencoder , or transcode10:33
linopilcheck this survey out  ! http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html10:34
daurn|afki don't want them to loose any more quality10:34
hastesaverNoobZaibot, what else can I do? I'd like to know all my options first10:34
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linopilhastesaver GParted bootable CD  can help you resize partition10:35
linopilalso boot fron install ubuntu CD10:35
linopiland try to clean  /tmp10:36
linopilhastesaver: ?10:36
hastesaverlinopil, actually, my system is still working fine... there are about 20 MB free, so I was trying to see what I should delete10:36
linopil20 mb is bad you  understand hastesaver10:36
hastesaverlinopil, yes, I know it's very little... that's why I want to free up more space10:36
linopilgo root10:37
daurn|afkhastesaver: old .debs?10:37
linopilhastesaver:  df -h10:37
daurn|afkhastesaver: empty the trash?10:38
hastesaverlinopil, yes, /var/cache is 427 MB..10:38
timowhat is this?10:38
linopilgood place to start aint it?10:38
daurn|afktimo: an irc channel10:38
hastesaverA tiny 4.7 GB hardisk10:38
daurn|afkwhats an app for burning audio cds that supports .wma?10:38
linopilall system on 4.7 GB ?10:38
hastesaverGreat. Available "530M". Should be enough for now, I guess? :-)10:39
hastesaverlinopil, oh, sorry. The root partition is 4.7 G10:39
linopilgood luck hastesaver10:39
linopilhttp://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html10:39
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daurn|afkanyone?10:40
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hastesaverdaurn|afk, I think converting is your best bet10:40
_Er1K_daurn|afk:  use mplay or vlc to transcode them first10:40
hastesaverdaurn|afk, I mean, even the audio CD cannot have .wma files, it has to be a special cdaudio format... you know that, right?10:41
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_Er1K_unless he is puting it in a player with native wma support, but we will leave that for a different discussion10:41
hastesaver_Er1K_, right, such players are better left unmentioned :-)10:42
mneptoksuch players are the spawn of the devil :P10:42
hastesaverdaurn|afk, does your system burn .wav files, BTW? Someone was complaining the other day that gnome-baker and serpentine don't work with .wav files...10:42
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daurn|afkuh10:43
daurn|afkno idea10:43
LookTJyo10:43
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faisal_dwb lookTj10:43
LookTJwho was i talking to in a pm?10:43
daurn|afki haven't burned a cd NOT from image in a year or more10:43
daurn|afk!icecast10:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:44
hastesaverdaurn|afk, anyway, mplayer <filename> -ao pcm will create a .wav file out of it. You can then (try to) easily burn it10:44
_Er1K_I don't disagree, but my car head can play them directory, although it never has.  I have never, and don't want to ever feed it WMA content, but transcoding seems like trading bad for worse.10:44
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hastesaver_Er1K_, but daurn|afk wants an audio CD, not a "CD for wma players". Right?10:46
daurn|afkcorrect10:47
_Er1K_it was never clear what his target capabilities where :)10:47
_Er1K_ok, then, now we know10:47
daurn|afki have a few i want to burn10:47
daurn|afki don't want to have to do it file by file10:47
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_Er1K_I think vlc will do entire directories, which makes life a little easlier10:48
_Er1K_easir10:48
_Er1K_easier10:48
daurn|afkvlc burns?10:48
SqueeDoes anyone know how to get a patched madwifi driver so you can do packet injections?10:48
_Er1K_burn? no, transcode?  yes10:48
_Er1K_but it is 2 am, I am half asleep, wife wants me elsewhere.  Night, friendly people10:48
hastesaverdaurn|afk, what version of k3b, BTW?10:49
daurn|afklatest in synaptic10:50
hastesaverdaurn|afk, someone claims "K3b version 0.12 supports wma" somewhere...10:50
l-formmneptok: any result so far? sorry for bein such a pain in the ass but that really bothers me, the people cheating others, using somebody else's achievements to earn their living, violating the very principle of the free everything 0)10:50
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mneptokl-form: they are allowed to do that as long as the give proper credit for the trademarks10:51
mneptoks/the/they/10:51
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l-formwhat do you mean proper credit, a line saying this has been developed by canonical ltd, all rights reserved or something?10:52
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mneptok"Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and others are trademarks of Canonical, Ltd. This site is not affiliated with Canonical, Ltd."10:52
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l-formthere's no such line there whatsoever!10:53
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ubuntuhi10:53
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faisal_dwow.. now i can speak with ubuntu itself :p10:53
hastesaverl-form, which site are you talking about?10:53
ubuntu(:10:54
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l-forma  software portal selling ubuntu installation cds http://opensource.com.ua/product1293.html#comments10:55
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l-formwhat it says there is that all trademarks are owned by their respective owners or smth like that10:56
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hastesaverl-form, 5.00 ??? seems a reasonable price :-) [Even though I have no clue what the currency's value is...] 10:57
faisal_dI-form: that is giving proper credit to the trademark owners10:57
hastesaverl-form, they will have costs of shipping and handling; do you expect them to ShipIt(TM) for free? ;-)10:57
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NET||abusewhat is the plan for edgy seeing as dapper is the LTS release??10:59
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erUSUL!schedule11:00
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule11:00
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mofOk i screwed my self, umounted my home directory, was on it's own partition, and deleted it from etc/mtab. Now no mater what i cant mount it.11:00
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wickedpuppyno ah thats not what NET||abuse asks ... NET||abuse i think it will also be a LTS ..clearly i do not know :P11:01
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NET||abuseexactly, that's what i meant11:01
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l-formFaisal_d: still i think its not right to resell cd shipped by canonical for free, wouldnt u agree11:01
hastesaverNET||abuse, no, it's not a LTS. In fact, it's very Edgy :-)11:01
berenthas anyone upgraded their kernel to dapper11:01
berentfrom breezy11:01
NET||abuseyeh, i did it11:01
berenthow11:01
hastesaver!upgrade11:02
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes11:02
NET||abusesimple version... change your source.list, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:02
NET||abusei shut down gdm and ran on console11:02
NET||abusejust to be sure ;)11:02
erUSULNET||abuse: wickedpuppy it will not be lts. the lts release is dapper...11:02
NET||abuseand foolllowed the upgrade mentioned above11:02
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sc0tthey folks11:02
berentwhat did u change in source.lst11:02
sc0tt:)11:02
NET||abusewill edgy features be integrated into dapper then as it progresses?11:03
wickedpuppyeracc, okie11:03
wickedpuppythanks11:03
hastesaverberent, you have a good internet connection, I presume?11:03
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mneptokNET||abuse: depends on the feature, and its criticality tto proper operation11:03
hastesaverberent,  Whatever. Hit Alt-F2, and type:        gksudo "update-manager"11:04
dibblegowhen I boot off the live CD I get a message "ipw3945 Radio Frequency Kill Switch is on" and my wireless card is not available -- wtf is that?11:04
mneptokdibblego: check your BIOS?11:04
NET||abusemneptok, hehe, ok, beryl?11:04
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NET||abuse;)11:04
mneptokNET||abuse: no comment.11:05
dibblegomneptok, but I haven't touched the bios -- it was working fine11:05
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mneptokdibblego: with Ubuntu?11:05
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erUSULNET||abuse: the definition of stabel is "*no* new features *only* bug fixes"11:05
lalala5https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases /q ubotu11:05
dibblegomneptok, yes11:05
NET||abuseerUSUL, doh. :(11:05
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hastesaverNET||abuse, you can't have "stable" and "experimental" features on the same system :)11:06
mneptokdibblego: then i suggest you look around in the BIOS and in Windows to see if anything changed.11:06
dibblegomneptok, I just switched it on today and got that message for some reason, so I tried the live CD and saw that message11:06
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dibblegomneptok, I don't run windows, but ok thanks11:06
mneptokdibblego: you switched what on today?11:06
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dibblegomneptok, the machine11:06
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hAPPY_mAJAHow do you extract .rpm-files in ubuntu. The arc-tool doesn't work..11:07
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erUSULNET||abuse: what's the problem? if you want new features just upgrade to edgy when it's released11:07
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dibblegoaccording to BIOS, wireless is enabled11:07
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NET||abuseerUSUL, i suppose i need to find out more bout what new features will be in there and if it's worth the potential headaches..11:08
Alex232I've installed eagle-usb-data and eagle-usb-utils packages, but my Sagem 800 ADSL modem doesn't work.11:08
Alex232After "startadsl" command it writes "Modem is not operational! Check eaglestat result to know its state!"11:08
mneptokdibblego: manufacturer?11:08
Alex232Pls help11:08
dibblegomneptok, Dell11:08
l-formdoes anyone know about cyrillics in gnome-icu?11:09
gandolfthewizardgm everyone11:09
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NET||abusei would love to use something such as beryl if it improved the performance and features of Xgl/compiz11:09
gandolfthewizardi have a quetion11:09
hAPPY_mAJAeey! .rpm???11:09
mneptokdibblego: have you contacted them to find out what they do to the 3945 to possibly cause that message? because i have a Thinkpad with a 3945 and have never seen anything like that.11:09
gandolfthewizardi am tryig to install from a cd how do i do that11:09
dibblegomneptok, that message comes from ubuntu during the boot of the live CD11:09
gandolfthewizardi have wine and i need to install win office 200011:10
dibblegomneptok, then the wireless card simply isn't there11:10
l-formi mean everybody else in ru-net sees them as question marks11:10
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mneptokdibblego: right, and what causes Ubuntu to believe that that situation is the case?11:10
dibblegomneptok, no idea - nothing changed as far as I can tell11:10
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Alex232will anybody help me, please?11:10
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hAPPY_mAJAgandolfthewizard: openoffice is much better, but if you insist i recomend VMware11:10
gandolfthewizardvm qare ok ty11:11
berentthanks guys i am able to get the upgrade to dapper11:11
mneptokdibblego: which is why i mentioned contacting Dell to see how their firmware interacts with that device.11:11
dibblegomneptok, ok thanks11:11
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hastesaverdaurn|afk, so, what did you do, finally?11:12
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gandolfthewizardoh one more ?11:12
gandolfthewizardcan i run mac software on linux on a pc11:12
mneptokno11:12
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gandolfthewizardok ty11:13
Alex232I've installed eagle-usb-data and eagle-usb-utils packages, but my Sagem 800 ADSL modem doesn't work. After startadsl command it writes "Modem is not operational! Check eaglestat result to know its state!" eaglestat writes "Modem waiting for driver response. Please send DSP (eaglectrl -d)". What can I do?11:13
gandolfthewizardthought i would ask11:13
dibblegomneptok, I think I may have figured it out :)11:13
hAPPY_mAJAgandolfthewizard: yeah, with VMware!11:13
mneptokdibblego: suave11:13
dibblegomneptok, I have pressed one of those Fn+<something> buttons11:13
hastesavergandolfthewizard, but most of the common apps have near-equivalents, though11:13
mneptokdibblego: Don't Do That(tm)11:14
dibblegomneptok, yep, my wireless is back - thanks for the tips11:14
mneptoknp11:14
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VoXare there any programs available that will sort through a collection of images, and tag which ones are similar, based on the /image/ itself?11:15
Alex232nobody will help me :(11:16
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VoXdoesnt look like thar be many/any people around at present11:16
berentAlex232: I think there is no driver11:16
Alex232isn't eagle-usb-data a driver?11:17
berentAlex232 : for that modem?11:17
AlinuxOSHello, how can I report a bug for Debian if I use Ubuntu ?11:18
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Alex232Sagem provide eagle usb 1.9.9, and I found eagle-usb 2.xx in Ubuntu's distr11:19
Alex232it is the same driver, isn't it?11:19
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berentnot sure11:20
Alex232any it was written in package description that it is for Sagem 80011:20
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Alex232anyway*11:20
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Alex232and startadsl and stopadsl commands appeared after installation11:21
Alex232but it waits for some response from driver...11:22
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mneptokAlex232: did you use sudo when launching those scripts?11:22
daryl_Excuse me, how do I tell what kernel I have?11:22
sc0ttAnyone here have a 5.1 creative sound card?11:22
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mneptokdaryl_: uname -a11:22
sc0ttdaryl_, uname -a11:22
sc0tt:)11:22
Alex232no11:22
Alex232will it affect?11:22
mneptokAlex232: do so, please11:22
timohow can I list my udb devices?11:23
sc0ttlsusb11:23
sc0tti would assume :P11:23
timothanks11:23
sc0tthaven't had a chance to see what binutils etc come with bunutu11:23
Caplaini didnt have my tv plugged into my computer when i started it up and i dont want to have to restart to get the tv working, is there a way to init it?11:23
daryl_mneptok and sc0tt: this instruction is telling me to use synaptic to search for "linux-restricted-modules", and then install the appropriate module.  but I'm just not sure what is appropriate.11:24
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Alex232okay, will try now  it is so difficult to shut down windows, load linux, shut down linux and go windows again to get here11:24
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Alex232thanks11:24
mneptokdaryl_: *what* instruction? for what?11:24
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daryl_mneptok: some instructions for installing the appropriate support for my video card.11:24
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mneptokdaryl_: apt-cache search restricted11:25
wickedpuppydaryl_, it would be better for you to tell us what is your video card , where you see the instruction11:25
tuskerniniTHREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!11:25
erUSULdaryl_: linux-restricted-modules is a package that you have to install that comes with a few modules11:25
xerxes1358Hello11:25
xerxes1358He guys how is ATI RAEDON 3D support in Linux these days?11:26
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tuskerniniTHREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!11:26
mneptokxerxes1358: given ATIs utter refusal to open even a tiny piece of their drivers, not as good as it could be.11:26
xerxes1358ah ok11:26
daryl_thanks guys, I think its a 686 I needed.11:26
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tuskerniniTHREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!11:26
xerxes1358is the XGL and nice desktop effects available today possible ? (Not talking about GAming)11:27
tuskerninisorry that was the last one... great stuff, thats ubuntu spirit11:27
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squeeHow do I apply a .patch to a source directory?11:28
sc0ttI don't think ubuntu detected my soundcard right =p11:28
halexsquee: patch -p0 < patch.patch11:28
squeethanks i'll try that11:29
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Frustrated_Noobquick question, how am i to sudo bash diskmounter when it doesn't recognize the file on my desktop?11:31
wickedpuppyrecognise the file ?11:33
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wickedpuppycan explain ?11:33
zim_hi all when will 6.10 be out ???11:34
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CheekyBoinc26.1011:34
zim_ty11:34
Frustrated_Noobwell, i have the file diskmounter on the desktop in ubuntu.  When i go into the terminal and type sudo bash diskmounter, as per the instructions, it says it can't find the file.11:34
wickedpuppydismounter ?11:35
wickedpuppyfile name is diskmounter ?11:35
Frustrated_Noobyes11:35
wickedpuppywhich instruction ? can point me to it ?11:35
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Frustrated_Noobthe one in the diskmounter file11:35
mneptokuhh11:36
mneptokbash? what's that there for?11:36
mneptokwhat is it you're trying to do with this file?11:36
wickedpuppyi am confused ..11:36
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wickedpuppylol11:36
Frustrated_Noobtrying to get it so that ubuntu will be able to read ntfs formats11:36
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mneptokFrustrated_Noob: have you looked in /media?11:37
Frustrated_Noobah, no11:38
Frustrated_Noobunfortunately, i dont have it on dual boot11:38
wickedpuppydon't have what ?11:38
Frustrated_Noobone other question.....  How do I write to the file system disk?11:38
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mneptokFrustrated_Noob: write what?11:38
Frustrated_Noobanything.11:39
Frustrated_Noobi have only read permissions on the desk.11:39
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Frustrated_Noober, disk11:39
mneptokright11:39
wickedpuppyFrustrated_Noob, can ask things clearly ? i have no idea what is it that you want ...11:39
mneptokbecause only the root user can write wherever they please11:39
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Frustrated_Noobi am root11:39
mneptokthis is called "security."11:39
wickedpuppyLOL11:40
mneptokFrustrated_Noob: you are not root. i can almost guarantee it.11:40
Frustrated_Noobinteresting.  then how does one get root on one's own computer after one has installed ubuntu?11:41
Frustrated_Nooband strange how the terminal says i am root11:41
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mneptokFrustrated_Noob: type "who"11:41
mneptok(in a temrinal)11:41
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erUSUL!sudo11:42
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:42
erUSUL!sudo > Frustrated_Noob11:42
erUSULFrustrated_Noob: sudo -i gives a root shell11:42
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basvghey all11:43
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mneptokand wandering around your machine as root, and with a nick that includes the word "Noob" makes me somewhat more than uneasy11:43
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Frustrated_Noobsee, i'm not so noob that i can't figure out to have a back up.11:43
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orioncan someone please help. my resources shows 97% CPU usage from events/0 ?11:43
Frustrated_Noobthey won't orion11:44
Frustrated_Noobthey'll tell you what an idiot you are first11:44
basvga while ago I noticed a thread on xcompmgr messing up gnome-panel in the sense that the panel which shows 'lock screen' 'reboot' etc. doesn't work anymore... just installed taht stuff again and it still happens. ANy clue how/when that'll be fixed?11:44
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mneptokFrustrated_Noob: i have used Unix for almost 25 years. i work for Canonical. i don't wander around my machine as root. you do the math. and then kindly tell me exactly when i called you an idiot.11:44
mneptokorion: what does top tell you?11:45
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emiliogrhola11:45
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Rookie!es11:45
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:45
Frustrated_Noobjust because you don't use the word doesn't mean you don't use it mneptok.  and as for wandering around the machine as root, i was doing as told by several members of this community.11:45
orionok, one minute11:45
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Frustrated_NoobI have not wandered around the machine as root, but believe what you want.11:46
Frustrated_Noobobviously ubuntu was not the wisest choice for me into my first foray into the linux cosmos11:46
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Frustrated_NoobThis only tells me I've wasted the past week pulling together the resources so that I can make a safe migration.  I'll merely reformat the hd to something windows recognizes and use it as is.11:47
RookieIf ubuntu is not for you, try slackware, latest version got out yesterday ... 11.011:48
Frustrated_Noobnot going to bother with linux anymore, rookie.  i'm tired of being treated like a moron.11:48
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wickedpuppyFrustrated_Noob, its ok not to like ubuntu ... but pls don't troll here ..11:48
Rookiewell, linux is real easy, ive done it for 8 years and i find it easy11:49
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orionmneptok, post the whole thing?11:49
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mneptokFrustrated_Noob: then take advice from people with more experience than you and stop putting words in their mouths. you'll get along much better with people if you don't start your relations with them by ignoring them and making up things they said.11:49
sc0ttAnyone know how to get stereo upmixed to 5.1 on a creative card?11:49
mneptokone man's opinion, of course11:49
sc0ttWindows used to have a little util called EAX11:49
sc0ttthat would set the card to upmix11:49
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mneptokorion: what is the very first entry in top? the one using the most CPU?11:49
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Rookielinux is about to understand security on several lvl's and networking and hardware vs software ...11:50
Frustrated_NoobI haven't made up anything.  I asked for help in how to get diskmounter to run.  Then I asked how i can write to the hd.  i was told that i wasn't root, when I am, and I was told that i wasn't making any sense.11:50
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mneptokFrustrated_Noob: you said i called you an "idiot," when i most certainly said no such thing. your response was "just because you didn't say it doesn't mean you didn;t say it."11:51
cmc_xgl11:51
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oriontop - 02:48:02 up 24 min,  3 users,  load average: 1.72, 2.71, 3.0211:51
orionCpu(s):  8.6% us, 89.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  1.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.3% hi,  0.3% si11:51
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orionnot sure if that's it? sorry11:51
sc0ttnext line orion ;)11:51
Peter77hi, the battery monito for ubuntu is a bit faulty11:51
orionMem:   2076340k total,   325144k used,  1751196k free,     7724k buffers11:51
mneptokorion: look a little bit down at the list of running processes. which one is at the top of the list, using the most CPU?11:52
Peter77some times it appears others it doesn't11:52
Frustrated_NoobHmm, you tell me I don't have root when I do.  So either I'm a liar or an idiot.11:52
Frustrated_Noobeither way, doesn't matter.  I'll try elsewhere, maybe someone will help.11:52
mneptokFrustrated_Noob: i didn't say "you don;t have root"11:52
wickedpuppyorion, below PID , USER and so on11:52
mneptokFrustrated_Noob: i said "you are not root"11:52
Frustrated_Noob<mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: you are not root. i can almost guarantee it.11:52
Rookiedepence on how you got to root account ... you can get to root on several ways but few gives you your paths11:52
wickedpuppymneptok, pls ...11:53
mneptokFrustrated_Noob: the difference between saying "you do not own boots" and "you are not wearing boots"11:53
sc0ttlol11:53
sc0ttbest analogy ever11:53
Peter77can anyone help my fix the vattery monitor?11:53
sc0tt:>11:53
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Frustrated_Noobdoesn't matter.  thing says root when i'm in the terminal11:53
Peter77I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.11:53
Peter77The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).11:53
Peter77Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?11:53
mneptokPeter77: have you tried removing it from the panel when it is visible, and re-adding it?11:54
Peter77yeah11:54
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Frustrated_NoobWell, thanks for the "useful" information.11:54
orion4 root      39  19     0    0    0 R 97.2  0.0  21:17.85 events/011:55
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orion4460 root      15   0 45732  21m 7536 S  0.3  1.1   1:31.36 Xorg11:55
mneptokPeter77: FYI, the battery monitor does not appear when the machine is fulyl charged and plugged into AC.11:55
mneptok*fully11:55
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Peter77the one in the panel just says "ac is connected, no battery", and the other one near the clock just doesn't appear when thats displayed11:55
mneptokorion: and events/0 is the one eating CPU?11:55
Peter77but my machine isn't fully charged11:55
Peter77some times it's nearly flat and ends up cutting out because theres no monitor11:56
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mneptokPeter77: remove one or the other11:56
Peter77?11:56
mneptokPeter77: you said you have one monitor in a panel, and another up by the clock.11:56
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Peter77the one by the clock appears when power is detected11:56
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mneptokget rid of one of those and just let a single instance try to sort things out11:56
erUSULorion: tail -f /var/log/messages maybe faulty hardware is generating a lot of events...?11:57
Peter77I also use kubuntu11:57
Peter77which seems to have the same problem11:57
Peter77it's appeared in kubuntu now so I'm going to switch to gnome to see if it works there too11:57
erUSULorion: also  'sudo udevmonitor'11:57
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mibukI've raised a bug in Launchpad against libsdl1.2 and nothings happening with it.  It's a known bug upstream that has been fixed, and I posted hte individual patch, or requested that the maintainer upgraded package to latest version.  Is htere anyhting else I can do?  Is it possible for me to either add the patch to the current ubuntu deb, or to update the current deb to latest upstream version, or is that something only the package11:58
mibukmaintainer can do?11:58
Peter77(kubuntu desktop btw)11:58
Peter77yeah it's working in gnome now11:58
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Peter77I'm going to restart and go into kde instead of going into gnome which I normally do and the monitor doesn't appear11:59
orionsorry, I am having trouble with irssi, I will be back in a second11:59
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Peter77kde says "no power source found"12:01
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orionok sorry, based on this-> 4 root      39  19     0    0    0 R 97.2  0.0  21:17.85 events/012:01
Peter77so it must something below the GUI level12:02
orionit shows 97% so does that mean it could be faulty hardware you said?12:02
erUSULorion: i said to check the kernel log just in case...12:02
orionok sorry, could you tell me how one more time?12:03
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erUSULorion: tail -f /var/log/messages12:03
erUSULorion: also  'sudo udevmonitor'12:03
mibukanybody know the answer to my question?12:03
Peter77I didn't have this trouble when running suse on my laptop12:03
daurn|afkok12:05
daurn|afkhow do you burn wmas12:05
daurn|afkwhats the trick12:05
afxmibuk/ what is your question?12:05
mibukI've raised a bug in Launchpad against libsdl1.2 and nothings happening with it.  It's a known bug upstream that has been fixed, and I posted hte individual patch, or requested that the maintainer upgraded package to latest version.  Is htere anyhting else I can do?  Is it possible for me to either add the patch to the current ubuntu deb, or to update the current deb to latest upstream version, or is that something only the package12:06
mibukmaintainer can do?12:06
mibukBasically, can I do anything after raising the bug (which I did about a month ago).12:06
rpedrowhat's a good newsgroup client?12:06
mneptokrpedro: gui or cli?12:07
rpedrogui12:07
mneptokPan12:07
Peter77can anyone help me?12:07
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rpedroah, thanks12:07
mibukits bug #6138912:07
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HerC1hello12:08
mneptokmibuk: if you have a bug in LP, and a fix, paste the fix to a new post12:08
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HerC1i have question12:08
HerC1how to install my asus ati 9550 Gt12:08
wickedpuppy!ati12:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:08
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mibukmneptok: I did that already12:09
mneptokmibuk: and is the fix in Edgy?12:09
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Przemcio78hi, could anyone post his/hers /boor/grub/menu.lst file?12:10
HerC1yeah and i have other question when i start the pC and choose ubuntu with grub loader when the linux has start loading my monitor writed OUT OF RANGE 35//86 hz khz i don't remember12:10
mibukmneptok: Not that I can see, I cant run edgy on my dev laptop, X broke seriously last time I tried, and had to reformat and reinstall dapper :(12:10
Przemcio78i mean could anyone paste it somewhere? i'd like to check sth out12:11
Peter77a little help plz12:11
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mneptokmibuk: until Edgy definitevely ships without the fix i wouldn't panic12:11
mneptok*definitively12:11
Peter77I need this battery monitor to work because I use my laptop to take notes in lectures12:11
daurn|afkanyone???12:11
daurn|afkhow do you burn wmas12:11
camer0ffhave a quick question about ubuntu and changing monitors12:11
camer0ffdo i just ask?12:12
Peter77good thing I didn't format the windows partition, windows actually has it's uses!12:12
BuZzY!firefox12:12
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:12
mibukmneptok:  I think it should be backported to Dapper.  It means that all pygame and SDL based applications dont work with a compiz desktop.  thats a lot of software that wont work.12:12
Peter77any one know whats wrong with the battery monitor in ubuntu?12:13
wickedpuppyPrzemcio78, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25643/12:13
mneptokmibuk: people sticking with a fault-tolerant release like Dapper should not be using half-baked OGL accelerators like compiz, IMO12:13
sc0tthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1579043#post157904312:13
sc0ttincase anyone is bored and wants to help :>12:13
HerC1wickedpuppy,  my video card is not ati radeon it it ASUS ATI what to do12:13
Peter77I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.12:14
Peter77The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).12:14
Peter77Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?12:14
HerC1!asus12:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:14
halexmneptok: but remember, it's gonna be a while before compiz is gonna be classified as stable12:14
wickedpuppyHerC1, ah ... i thought there is only one ati ...12:14
camer0ffjust wondering how i get ubuntu to recognise my new monitor, it currently is only supporting 1024x768 and it should be able to support higher12:14
HerC1Make sure the following things are true about your video card:12:14
HerC1    *12:14
HerC1      It is a 'Radeon' card12:14
HerC1it isn't radeon card12:15
Przemcio78wickedpuppy: thanks12:15
halexPeter77: Change your Power Management preferences, see the General tab on the dialog, and check the Always Show radio box..12:15
wickedpuppyPrzemcio78, np ... save it somewhere safe :P12:15
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Millelo xD12:15
wickedpuppyHerC1, it is or is it not ?12:15
Peter77halex: ok I'll try that12:15
mneptokhalex: precisely, which is why ensuring that every app under the sun works with such unstable code is sorta futile.12:15
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MilleI'm wondering. Isn't it possible to move the ubuntu partition (ext3) forward with gparted on the live-cd?12:16
Przemcio78i wanted to change some option in my archlinux grub that was default in ubuntu :)12:16
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HerC1wickedpuppy,  IT"S NOT RADEON12:16
HerC1asus ati not ati radeon12:16
Przemcio78thanks12:16
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wickedpuppyHerC1, relax .. sorry about that .. nope i guess i can't help ya there ... perhaps others can12:17
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halexmneptok: the only real stopgap measure is to run two X servers, which is a pain in the rear for the average joe..12:17
NineTeen67CometHI all .. Does anyone know is there another desktop manager competing with Compiz? I thought I saw something the other day on my other computer called by*** can't remember totally ..12:17
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HerC1wickedpuppy,  sry just i tring to install this video card much time ago...12:17
HerC1and I can't12:17
soonHi Folks - attached new camera via USB, doesnt auto-mount, dmesg: usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 712:17
soonconfiguration #1 chosen from 2 choices12:18
wickedpuppyHerC1, have you bugged asus ?12:18
halexbrb guys, gotta install edgy..12:18
wickedpuppyafter all its their hardware12:18
HerC1asus ati 9550 GT i don't know12:18
erUSULHerC1: you are confused radeon is the name of the chip as is gforce for nvidia athought asus make cards with both chips (radeon and gforce) and chipmakers (ati and nvidia)12:18
soonany suggestions what I should mount? It doesnt turn up as a /dev/sda or sdb12:18
Peter77halex, ok I've done that, it says "computer is running on battery power but is displaying no level12:18
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HerC1erUSUL,  so ? i can install fglrx driver and 3d accelelator will be working ?12:19
erUSULHerC1: so yes yours is a radeon chip card (rxxx in the lspci aoutput)12:19
ThandavarayanHerC1, yeah...erUSUL is right.12:19
daurn|afkanyone at all12:19
daurn|afkhow do you burn wmas12:19
Peter77plugged in AC, now it says computer is running on AC12:19
erUSULHerC1: yes12:19
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erUSUL!ati12:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:19
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HerC1thanks12:19
mibukmneptok: I'd like to point out, it's not as simple as making a single app work with the unstable but very popular XGL/AIGLX servers.  it's making a dynamicly loaded library that can and is used by a number of third party applications and a large number of games, fixing this makes all of them work correctly.  not fixing it breaks all those applicaitons and a number of games12:19
erUSUL!caps > HerC112:19
wickedpuppylol12:19
HerC1but i want to ask other12:19
wickedpuppythats what i showed him ....12:20
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HerC1when i start loading linux12:20
Peter77ok so it detects where the battery power is coming from but still no level12:20
HerC1my monitor writes out of range..12:20
HerC1and when X will be loader12:20
erUSUL!patience > HerC112:20
camer0ffhey i have just connected a new monitor to the computer, how do i get it to recognise the new monitor so i can set the resolution higher?12:20
speudhow can i do to go the french server12:20
mibukdaurn|afk:  what do you mean burn WMA's?  Do you want them just on CD as files?  or on DVD's / CD's as a Video CD that will play in a DVD player?12:20
THX-1138daurn - Re-ecode them to something else? wav or mp3? - you can't really do it.12:21
daurn|afkas an audio cd12:21
HerC1sry12:21
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HerC1erUSUL,12:21
HerC1:12:21
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mibukdaurn|afk: then you need to re-encode them as WAV files12:21
daurn|afkTHX-1138: i don't want to lose anymore quality (so not mp3)12:21
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daurn|afkmibuk: is there a prog WITH gui that will do that?12:22
cpk2camer0ff: if it doesnt detect the monitor automatically you can put modelines into xorg yourself12:22
Peter77any ideas please?12:22
THX-1138I suppose you might do one at a time capturing each one in real time using audacity to wav12:22
mibukdaurn|afk: I think you can do it with mplayer, checkout the mplayer website, they have an encoding / recording tool included with mplayer.12:22
camer0ffcpk2, modelines? can you explain please12:22
daurn|afkarg12:22
THX-1138daurn - i have hundred+ gigs of lossless varible bit encoded wmas.12:22
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daurn|afki just want to get a cd/playlist to go through my stereo12:23
BuZzY!usb12:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:23
BuZzY!usbdrive12:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usbdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:23
daurn|afkBuZzY: you plug them in... thats it12:23
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THX-1138daurn - It took me days to do. - the only fast option i have seen is blazepro. - someone please, please tell me i am wrong.12:23
cpk2camer0ff: in your xorg.conf you will either have a section with modelines or modes, if its just modes you can input what resolution you want x to use, if it uses modelines you can generate your modeline here http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl12:23
BuZzYok daurn|afk  :DS12:24
daurn|afki don;t want to go back to windows12:24
daurn|afkbut i think i might have to12:24
daurn|afki can't handle the lack of music tools for linux12:24
ReservoirGodsHello all, I am trying to get a tv tuner card to work, forums helped just about enough to get the tuner working. can see a very good picture. but no sound.12:24
mibukdaurn|afk: cant you just use your headphones / lineout on your pc and the Aux In onyur stereo.  it'd be easier.   Re-encoding the files will take a while and lot of space.12:24
BuZzY!floppy12:24
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone12:24
cpk2daurn|afk: lack of music tools?12:24
rockerichtigReservoirGods: maybe you need to plug in a cable for sound?12:24
daurn|afkmibuk: stereo is 4 rooms away :P12:24
ReservoirGodsI've tried a lotta things with the /etc/modules.d/bttv file- but nothing is happening- the audio out jack is connected . duh.12:25
ReservoirGodsi checked the volumes too12:25
mibukReservoirGods: Does your TV card provide sound, or do you need to connect a jack to jack cable from tv card to sound card?  my old tv card needed me to do that12:25
THX-1138mibuk - recording an analog signal sounds pretty bad.12:25
Peter77could the problem be in the ACPI?12:25
daurn|afkcpk2: no good library tools, few reencoing tools, no good taggers, lag12:25
ReservoirGodsline in seems to be unmuted. mibuk- its an old one. heck- the box says for windows 98/98 :P12:25
Peter77or a conflict between KDE and Gnome?12:25
mneptokdaurn|afk: EasyTag is a *great* ID3 tagger12:25
daurn|afkTHX-1138: [20:21:46]  <daurn|afk> i just want to get a cd/playlist to go through my stereo12:26
camer0ffcpk2, where do i find xorg.conf?12:26
ReservoirGodswell, i've got the cable connected directly to the sound card.12:26
mibukReservoirGods:  does the tV card have a jack socket on it?12:26
mneptokdaurn|afk: Rhythmbox and Banshee both handle large libraries well (mine is 30,000 songs)12:26
mibukcamer0ff: /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:26
cpk2camer0ff: /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:26
camer0ffso i was close :)12:26
cpk2what mibuk said ^^12:26
mibuk:)12:26
camer0ffcpk2, mibuk thanks12:26
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ReservoirGodsmibuk - yeah- it does- you mean for a small audio cable provided with the tv tuner card - let me just paste the dmesg output and bttv file12:27
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cpk2still trying to understand what the advantage of burning to wma would be?12:27
mibukReservoirGods: did you connect the cable between the sound card and the tv card?  I know these are stupid questions, but it's good to check :)12:27
THX-1138FLAC! FLAC! - lol12:28
rockerichtigReservoirGods: maybe the soundcard inline is muted or your TV tool uses to wrong engine12:28
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rockerichtigcheck these things12:28
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mibukcp2k: I think daurn wants to burn from WMA, to normal music CD12:28
cpk2THX-1138: yeah, i was going to say use flac if you are a big audiophile12:28
BuZzY!floppy12:29
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone12:29
THX-1138cp2k - you might use audacity to capture a wav file then burn that.12:29
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ReservoirGodshttp://rafb.net/paste/results/Mxdzj499.html12:29
cpk2THX-1138: I dont need the music burning help =P12:29
ReservoirGodsrockerichtig: see for yourself. I cant understand much of the dmesg output. but i suspect something about the audio is missing here :S12:29
cpk2i have a spdif out straight to my stereo =)12:29
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THX-1138cpk2 - you would still need to configure you sound plugins  - i thought we were helping daurn - share the knowledge, linux community - "Ubuntu"12:30
ReservoirGodsmibuk: I've done that- connected to the soundcard. heck, i even tried the onboard sound as well as an old soundblaster card I'd lying around. nuthing works.,12:30
ReservoirGodsthinking of giving it a try with the audigy card.12:30
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mibukReservoirGods:  I think you'll find that with a TV Card like that, the software doesn't do anyhting with sound.  the hardware just outputs it directly to the jack you plugged in.  Therefore the software wont see a volume, but you have to manually control the line in on your sound card to get the tv sound to come in.12:31
IshmaelDoes anyone use PALM machines and are they as much easier to sync with Ubunt?12:31
camer0ffcpk2, do i have to restart x to get this resolution thing to update? i have gone as far as to delete all the other modes to see if it will work... but nothing. am i right to believe that i just have to reboot x?12:31
cpk2camer0ff: thats right, i hope you backed up your xorg.org =P12:32
camer0ffnope :D12:32
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mibukReservoirGods:  Sounds like the line in isn't working then.  make sure it's not muted, that its turned up, that it's not overridden by the mic input, er... trying to think of other ideas.12:32
camer0ffcpk2, nope... wish me luck :D12:32
camer0ffcpk2, be back soon12:32
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anilomkarubotu, how to install tomcat in Ubuntu12:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about how to install tomcat in Ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
cpk2camer0ff: we hope =)12:32
Rookie!tomcat12:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:33
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Peter77I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.12:33
Peter77The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).12:33
Peter77Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?12:33
THX-1138Rookie is the tomcat server prt of xamp?12:33
anilomkarcan anyone help me in installing tomcat in Ubuntu12:33
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Peter77I've made it permantly visible and it tells me if I'm using AC or battery but the level reading is still intermitent12:34
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ReservoirGodsmibuk- yes. I can understand. wait...i think thats one thing i'd not tried- overridden by mic output. Will try. But I am kinda on the verge of giving up- just looked through the tv4linux site and from what they've described there's a helluva lotta tweaking that needs to be done. even if i get the card number/settings right, i also have to make sure the tuner settings, TDA and what-nots are just set right- otherwise, wont work. thanks for the help12:34
ThandavarayanPeter77 Could you please give the Ubuntu version.12:34
ReservoirGodsthough. http://rafb.net/paste/results/zYyvu861.html12:34
Peter77Dapper Drake12:34
Peter776.0612:34
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camer0nyay12:35
mibukReservorGods:  I know how you feel.   I think I'm going to have to buy a decent TV card so I cna setup a mythtv box12:35
camer0ncpk2, i didn't die :D12:35
cpk2camer0n: you have the resolution you want?12:35
IshmaelHi, just to try again: does anyone use PALM machines and are they as much easier to sync with Ubuntu?12:35
camer0ncpk2, yeah12:35
cpk2camer0n: =D12:35
camer0ncpk2, everythings small.... *high fives the air*12:35
Peter77Thandavarayan: could it be the ACPI as I have the same problem in the KDE desktop12:36
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mibukOther than that, I'm out of ideas.  sound cards aren't really my thing, I never understood the whole Alsa/Esound/OSS stuff12:36
camer0ncpk2, it has also chucked in a whole heap of other values in between 1024x768 and 1280x1024.... not sure if that is a good thing :P12:36
cpk2camer0n: did you plug in the new monitor while x was running?12:37
camer0nyeah12:37
ThandavarayanPeter77 If that demon has started during the startup, then it should not be a problem for these applets to show the battery status...or....12:37
camer0nbut i have restarted the comptuer since then12:37
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BuZzYhow can i convert wav files into mp3's ????12:37
camer0ncpk2, yeah... but i rebooted since12:37
BuZzY!mp312:37
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BuZzY!mp3 convert12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
Peter77it seems to show if during boot up I plug it into the AC then remove the AC12:38
cpk2camer0n: well as long as it works now =P12:38
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ShadeTYou have a sound device, that only 1 thread can talk to at one time... So Alsa/Esound/OSS specifically talks to the sound device, so multiple application can then play sounds by talking to Alsa/Esound/OSS.12:38
erUSUL!info soundconverter12:38
ubotusoundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB12:38
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camer0ncpk2, yeah... pity it's still an old monitor.. bigger than the old one though.. fits more :)12:39
triptecI have a amd64, what do u recommend, 64 or 32 ubuntu??12:39
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mibukCheers ShadeT, I kinda get the idea, but it's configuring, and getting everything working that I can never work out.  they all seem to be installed at once on most systems.12:39
Peter77Thandavarayan: do you think it could be the kernal as changing the power source during boot seems to activate the battery level12:39
BuZzY!time12:40
ubotutime: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB12:40
ThandavarayanPeter77: Can you able to see the kernel log.12:40
camer0ncpk2, thanks for the help anyway. /me goes off and idles in satisfication12:40
BuZzY!sync time12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sync time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
BuZzY!synctime12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about synctime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
Peter77when booting?12:40
erUSULShadeT: of the three only esound does what you say (and arts and polyaudio btw) alsa and oss are drivers frameworks for the kernel ass is obsolete so alsa has a compat layer to support old apis and braindamaged apps like skype12:40
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ThandavarayanPeter77: Yeah...12:41
Peter77yes12:41
BuZzYhow can i convert wav files into mp3's ????12:41
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vladimirBGhey12:41
Peter77well under the logo12:42
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ThandavarayanPeter77: What does the log file says.12:42
Peter77just loading hardware  ok12:42
meson_rayBuZzY:  lame, if you want command line12:42
ShadeTAhh, that is right.  I am stuck in the old days.12:42
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Peter77and all that other stuff, nothing about battery12:42
vladimirBGcan you recomend some software that can convert non-drm wmv and mov files into PAL DV format?12:42
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erUSULvladimirBG: ffmpeg or mencoder12:43
ThandavarayanPeter77: /etc/init.d/acpid start12:43
mahmoudhi12:43
Peter77ok12:43
ThandavarayanPeter77: try to start the demon,12:43
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Peter77i'll try that12:43
mahmoudi've a problem12:43
unfknblvbl!php12:43
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.12:43
BuZzYmeson_ray, GUI?12:43
Peter77in terminal right?12:43
mahmoudafter apt-get instal gcc12:43
mahmoudand compiling a c file12:44
ThandavarayanPeter77: /etc/init.d/acpi-support start12:44
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yangowhere do I link libjavaplugin_oji.so for firefox to use the Java plugin?12:44
Thandavarayanto check the battery status...12:44
mahmoudi've an error message12:44
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meson_rayBuZzY:  try soundconverter.  i dunno if it converts to mp3 or not though12:44
yangoto $HOME/.mozilla/firefox what else?12:44
Thandavarayanofcourse in terminal12:44
mahmoudstdlib.h stdio.h12:44
mahmoudnot found12:44
Peter77ok it came on this time because  had to turn AC on during boot up12:44
BuZzYLOL meson_ray  :D12:44
meson_raywell, i know it converts FROM mp312:44
Peter77for some reason that has an effect12:45
herc1!ati12:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:45
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meson_rayi know there was a program somewhere, i don't remember what it was though12:45
ThandavarayanPeter77: Can your describe in more detail, what exactly you have done.12:45
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Peter77just plug/unplug the AC while linux is booting12:46
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meson_raygive me a second to look12:46
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ThandavarayanPeter77 Okay, after booting the applet shows the status of the battery or...12:46
Peter77if I don't change the power source while booting it generally won't show the battery level12:46
Peter77no in the GUI12:46
Peter77Gnome12:46
ThandavarayanPeter77: Yeah Yeah...12:47
mahmoudafter apt-get install gcc and compiling a c file i've an error message stdio.h sys/wait.h not found12:47
ThandavarayanPeter77: Can you able to look into the log files.12:47
ThandavarayanPeter77: /var/log/12:48
Peter77ok there12:48
Peter77what am I loooking for?12:48
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LookTJHow do i install opera?12:49
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erUSUL!opera12:49
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:49
LookTJok thanks12:50
Thandavarayanlook of acpid12:50
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Peter77ok12:50
Peter77found12:50
Thandavarayanto see, it says loaded...12:50
mahmoudno one to help me?12:50
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Peter771 client rule loaded?12:51
erUSUL!b-e > mahmoud12:51
meson_rayBuZzY:  lame has a script, called mlame that you can use to convert multiple files.12:51
erUSUL!b-e12:51
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:51
meson_rayBuZzY:  if you still think you need a gui, try a google search or something12:52
BuZzYok12:52
erUSUL!info soundconverter12:52
ubotusoundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB12:52
mahmoudafter apt-get install gcc and compiling a c file i've an error message stdio.h sys/wait.h not found12:52
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BuZzYpeople how can i remove safely my pen driver?12:52
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BuZzYon win xp  have to disable it first12:52
ReservoirGodsAnother problem. I cant copy anything to usb-disks - in /etc/fstab, i have the users,rw options turned on- and the directory is owned by my user. what gives?12:52
berentBuzzy : umount /mnt12:53
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ReservoirGodsBuZzY: simply umount /media/path_to_flash12:53
ShadeTOr right click on the icon on your desktop and eject12:53
erUSULmahmoud: check the ubotu msg's and the pm12:53
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Peter77Thandavarayan:"1client rule loaded"12:53
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LookTJwhere is the opera debian package in dapper12:53
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perkinshola12:54
Canopyhello there12:54
xavyou have to add a repo12:54
THX-1138LookTJ Good Moring - commercial non-free repos12:54
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LookTJi added that12:54
meson_rayBuZzY:  try razorlame, maybe12:55
xavLookTJ, well just install opera now then12:55
LookTJby the software properties12:55
THX-1138LookTj - you will also need libqt3-mt12:55
P3L|C4N0LookTJ, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main12:55
chromium6hello I have a radeon 9200SE with the RV280 chip set and I cant get for the life of me fglrx or sti drivers to fire up DRI and I tried building fglrx but I get build errors12:55
CanopyWhere can I go for some help?12:55
perkinsalguien que hable espaol12:55
chromium6s/sti/ati12:55
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P3L|C4N0perkins, en #ubuntu-es12:55
THX-1138!es12:55
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:55
perkinscomo se hace12:56
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erUSULchromium6: fglrx not longer support r2xx (te latest version from ati) radeon free driver has better performance use it (man radeon, man ati)12:56
P3L|C4N0perkins, escribe /j #ubuntu-es12:56
THX-1138perkins - I always hate doing !es it's dead there. - nice that you speak spanish.12:56
perkinsgracias12:56
xaverUSUL, ubuntu doesn't provide the last version of fglrx12:57
CanopyI need some  help installing a graphics driver (n00b to Linux)12:57
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erUSULxav: i know but chromium6 said "I tried building fglrx but I get build errors..."12:57
THX-1138Canopy - ati or nvidia/12:58
chromium6yes I have used the ati driver in my xorg.conf and tried to pass Chipset "RV280"  and the log files still say it is not supported12:58
Canopythx , nvidia12:58
meson_rayif i want to stick all of my binary files on a different partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?12:58
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chromium6I binaries do me no good from ati because they stopped supporting it12:58
THX-1138Canopy - great! - nvivdia works best.12:58
THX-1138!nvidia12:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:58
xaverUSUL, oh right, I forgot ubuntu had them built already12:59
meson_rayor rather, what can i stick from my ubuntu partition on another partition easily (without being able to mount said partition in ubuntu)12:59
arendaganwhat date is the stable version of edgy being released??12:59
Canopythat is good...going there now, standby plz12:59
unfknblvbl26 October12:59
erUSUL!schedule12:59
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:59
arendaganok.. thanks12:59
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LookTJok thanks P3L|C4N001:00
LookTJfor the repos01:00
LookTJ:)01:00
P3L|C4N0;)01:00
chromium6ok ubotu I will give that a shot01:00
chromium6thanks01:00
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CanopyTHX, looks like it is just what I need to figure it out ... thx!01:01
xavchromium6, why don't you tell us which errors you have with radeon?01:01
xavchromium6, it's better to use radeon drivers if you can01:01
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erUSULchromium6: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose ati driver... i can post my old radeon xorg.conf (for a 9250) so you can take a look at relevant sections (device, modules, dri etc...)01:02
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chromium6done that01:02
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chromium6I have started to edit my xorg.config by hand now that I have been digging at it so much01:03
slvmchnhow do i specify the master soundcard in ubuntu? i installed a PCI card in addition to audio, and dapper constantly defaults to the PCI one, when i actually only use that one with jack for mixing stuff... a lot of my programs are defaulting to the delta1010 interface instead of the onboard, because in the system settings -> sound tab, it has delta1010 as default... changing it doesn't seem to be permanent, is there a file i can edit som01:03
slvmchnewhere?01:03
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slvmchnit's just a pain when i have to troubleshoot games every time i run them, because the system tells them to use alsa with the interface01:04
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meson_rayif i want to stick all of my binary files on a different (non-blank) partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?01:04
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chromium6but ati drivers and fglrx fail to fire up DRI. I can get the xv extention working with aticonfig01:04
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herc1how to set up my tv-out ?01:05
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chromium6I have given up on fglrx and just tryed loading up DRM module and the radeon driver but I can't get it to support RV28001:07
chromium6 RADEON: Chipset "rv280" in Device section "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] " isn't valid for this driver01:07
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porkpieWhen are we going to get a release that installs on the Dell 1950 with out any disk dtection issues ??????01:09
unknownpeople is it good to "home" on a separate partition?01:10
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Shishunknown: normally, yes; that way you can reinstall the system partition and leave your personal files alone01:11
morryeHow do you install a printer on ubuntu?01:11
kzmIs mirrored logical volumes supported in LVM2 now?  (lvcreate -m ..)01:11
erUSULmorrye: System Admin Printers01:11
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kzmmorrye, plug it in, and use the gnome printer adm tool.  Do *not* try to use the CUPS web front end.01:11
Jaak_!offtopic01:11
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:11
kzm(at least, I couldn't manage to get it to work)01:12
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chromium6in both fglrx and radeon support ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP) but how ever mine is PCI could that be my issue?01:12
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sfp|torro!win32codecs01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
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meson_raycheck the ubuntu docs for win32codecs01:13
meson_raythere's information online01:13
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unknown now i have only 2 partitions: swap and root, how can i move "home" to a new partition?01:13
unknownShish, ?01:13
josh_what program(s) would i need to get in order to stream my music? (something similiar to winamp/shoutcast in windows)01:13
Jaak_Is there a gnome versionthinhy like KBleutoothD - meta server?01:14
Xappejosh_: icecast maybe01:14
kzmunknown, mount /dev/hdXN /mnt; cp -a /home /tmp/; rm -rf /home/*; umount /mnt; mount /dev/hdXN /home (some caution advised)01:14
unknownkzm, is there a web site where i can learn to do that?01:15
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josh_rgr01:15
kzmunknown, probably, but I have no particular suggestions.  Perhaps a good book on Unix?01:15
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meson_raysfp|torro:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:15
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chromium6ok brb going to try and fire up my gfx card again01:16
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_stippi_hi, I installed the KDE and Xfce desktop environment along the default Gnome desktop, how can I change the boot+shutdown screen logos and the login screen back to the default Ubuntu theme?01:17
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Jaak_how do  i make a doc/folder hidden in nautilus?01:19
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CosmoDadJaak_: preceeding its name with a dot should suffice01:22
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chromium6yeah same deal (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  drmOpen failed01:24
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chromium6radeon loads but fails to recognize my chip set and when I use the binary from ATI it loads but they stopped supporting the 9200 series, and when I use the binary from ubuntu the drm module fails to load fglrx01:26
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chromium6drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card001:28
chromium6drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)01:28
chromium6ermm???? I dont get that one. the device is there01:28
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chromium6crap it was01:28
chromium6nm brb01:28
ArafangionI've just installed network-manager-gnome, but it doesn't appear to work (I assume that the panel widget is supposed to display a list of networks one can connect to, but it's completely empty)01:29
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voraistoshello guys. i have a ubuntu server Mysql related problem: it seems when i want to set up password for host it wont work.01:30
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voraistosmysqladmin -u root password yourrootsqlpassword -->> this seems to work fine01:30
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meson_rayif i want to stick all of my binary files on a different (non-blank) partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?01:31
voraistosmysqladmin -h server1.example.com -u root password yourrootsqlpassword --> this doesnt01:31
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ArafangionSo, how do I get network-manager-gnome to work?01:32
voraistosmysqladmin: connect to server at 'server1.exemple.com' failed01:32
voraistoserror: 'Host 'server1.exemple.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'01:32
Arafangionvoraistos: I'm a postgresql guy, so I can't really suggest very much except to check your configuration.01:32
Arafangionvoraistos: And afaik, by default "localhost" transparently uses bsd sockets instead, it's MySQL's way of duping you into believing that they are really fast.01:33
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Arafangion(MySQL _is_ faster than Pg, but that's another issue altogether)01:33
voraistosArafigion: the network manager should already be there. what do u want from it ?01:34
voraistosoops. sorry for ure name Arafangion01:34
NET||abusehey guys, i have a window border sitting on top of everything from OOo, i've closed the app completely, but this border is just sittin there, can't do a thing to it.01:34
NET||abuseis there any way i can clear it off ??01:35
Arafangionvoraistos: Well, it's not installed by default on Dapper.01:35
NET||abusei think it was from a print dialog..01:35
voraistosKill sum stuff01:35
Arafangionvoraistos: So I installed it - but the icon on the gnome panel has an orange ! symbol, but I can't figure out what the heck that means.01:35
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voraistosNetworkManager Applet 0.6.2 : its not that ? Arafangion01:36
Arafangionvoraistos: I am quite confident that it's only the default in Etch.01:36
Arafangionvoraistos: But yes, it's 0.6.2, now that it's installed.01:36
voraistosArafangion: well, it was already there when i installed ;)01:37
Arafangion:)01:37
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voraistosit actually doesnt work for me. it can only see the wired network. useless01:38
ArafangionMy problem exactly.01:38
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=== voraistos wonders where is everybody ????
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=== Arafangion wonders the same.
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unfknblvblwe're here when you don't need us01:39
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voraistosusually it is very busy around here .........................01:39
Arafangionunfknblvbl: But we _do_ need you :(01:39
voraistosyes we do !01:39
unfknblvblyeh i know01:39
unfknblvblbut my point was.. dw01:40
voraistosdamn it! i am sure even on #Debian there is more people !01:40
Arafangionunfknblvbl: We need someone to talk to, who's not an MS fanatic, after we've spent two freaking days trying to get MS Access databases to work in VB.NET.01:40
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unfknblvbland btw i got no clue how to solve your problem01:40
unfknblvblsorry i got no idea01:40
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Arafangionvoraistos: I'd probably join #mysql first, and check the mysql website for any faq's.01:40
tuxubi am trying to rsync some stuff from one server to another keeping the permissions but the destination always get the username uid of the rsync login inserted. how can i solve this?01:41
voraistosArafangion: i feel it is not a Mysql problem01:41
Arafangiontuxub: What is the command?01:41
dragonfire1GM01:41
Arafangionvoraistos: How's that?01:41
voraistosi dunno01:41
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Arafangiondragonfire1: Hmm?01:42
voraistosi feel it is a dns problem or something like that01:42
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tuxubrsync --force --ignore-errors --delete-excluded --delete --progress --stats --numeric-ids -a /srv/ $BSERVER::$USER/$FOLDER/srv/01:42
tuxubi think my problem is in the server configuration01:42
Arafangiontuxub: What about, _anything_ related to preserving permissions?01:42
tuxubisn't this it: --numeric-ids ?01:43
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voraistoswow. /me saw 5 guys on #debian! yeah !01:43
Arafangiontuxub: See man rsync, search for "preserve"01:43
tuxuband -a is to enable archive mode, preserving permissions ?01:43
tuxubit says in the man rsync to use the -a option for preserving permissions01:44
Arafangiontuxub: You're correct, actually.01:44
herc1how can i give premisions on any fail to be opened with no root01:44
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tuxubso, the problem must be in the server config, dont you think?01:44
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ArafangionTristan: Perhaps.  Perhaps.01:45
ArafangionBeen too long since I've done rsync, right now I'm just bitter with VB.NET crap.01:45
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=== voraistos has an explanation to all that: time for americans to sleep +time for europeans to eat = nobody on #ubuntu
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voraistos:'(01:47
xavisn't it time for americans to wake up ?01:47
xavand europeans should be done eating01:47
voraistosnope. i didnt eat yet01:48
xav(though I'm not)01:48
xav:d01:48
voraistosand the americans, after a long night on #ubuntu, cant get up early01:48
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ptyi'm european and still deciding what to have for breakfast01:49
tuxubArafangion, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/79998701:49
voraistoshehe so do I :P01:49
xavrofl01:49
eXistenZEuros > Americans01:49
CroXSay I wanted to search through a directory, with subdirs, after all files containing the string "asdf". How could I do that?01:49
xavyou don't work?01:49
ptyi start my new job on monday, having a bit of a break01:49
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xavCromagDK, find /path/to/dir/ | xargs grep asdf01:49
voraistosxav i am a student. i dont need to go to uni, they dont even have ubuntu !01:50
tuxubvoraistos, lol01:50
xavme they have fedora01:50
ptyunlucky. at my uni they made us use rh901:50
xavI don't care, as long as I'm not forced to use windows01:50
voraistosdamn. i am a computing student, and they all are running windows. i even get free win licenses !01:50
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voraistosand visual studio.net licenses as well and stuff i dont xare about01:51
tuxubvoraistos, same here :(01:51
voraistostuxub: lets kill ourselves to join BillGates' Hell(aka linux paradise)01:51
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tuxub:)01:52
ptyunfortunately thats why uk universities churn out a load of MS only developers who think that anything that isnt VS is crap01:52
voraistosso we all are in the UK ?01:53
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pty<-Manchester01:53
ptydon't diss beans on toast!01:53
voraistosStafford. Need to kill myself.01:53
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xavare there big city without cars ?01:55
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xavthat's the place where I want to go01:55
voraistoshmmmmmm. maybe in african countries01:56
wickedpuppyxav, north korea ?01:56
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voraistosxav: they have no cars but tanks in north korea. and no beans nor toast01:56
xavhey, that's even worse01:57
ptyi guess holland is decent cos even though theres loads of cars nearly every road has a bick track next to it01:57
ptybike*01:57
xavah cool01:57
voraistosyeah. holland is nice; and in holland, pedestrian have rights too.01:57
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ptyand dutch ladies are pretty damn good lookin :)  must be all the cycling01:58
xavok I'm going to holland then01:58
ptychips and maynoaise ftw too01:58
voraistosxav u might want to go to sweden as well; i dunno about the girls, but i know about the computing stuff :)01:59
wickedpuppyholland is below sea level ... hope you know how to swim when tides go up ...01:59
xavI'll just take my kayak01:59
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voraistoswickedpuppy: not everywhere01:59
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xavmuch better than swimming :)02:00
wickedpuppytrue .. not everywhere clearly ... but most part .. no ?02:00
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xavreally, I also need moutains somewhere to go skiing02:00
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buzzy-hello ubuntu friends!02:01
ptyhi buzzy-02:01
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buzzy-pty, how are you?02:02
chamohello02:02
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dondonghi,young lads02:02
ptystill thinking about what i want for breakfast02:02
elmargolHi i Search a way so force an application to a specific sound device (ALSA).02:03
dondongiv just had my dinner02:03
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elmargolto force02:03
voraistosi could take my yacht. I mean, the day i have a yacht02:03
buzzy-pty, breakfast?? O_O  i just have had lunch!!02:03
ptyelmargol: what application?02:03
elmargolpty: banshee02:03
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dondongany1 know where to find linux games,not demo02:05
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elmargoldondong: www.holarse.net02:05
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dondongis it for free elmargol?02:05
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elmargoldondong: it is a german list of games avaiable for linux02:06
dondongi see it02:06
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zircxguys, I'm running an FX6600 nvidia card, is there an easy howto on installing the nvidia drivers for this particular card?02:06
dondongthanx02:06
cs02rm0_zircx: have you tried the envy script?02:07
zircxhaven't heard of the envy script at all, I'm very new to ubuntu02:07
binary_goofyhi room! can somebody help me in getting wine working on my system?02:07
cs02rm0_look here: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html02:07
elmargoldondong: http://www.linux-gamers.net/02:07
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zircxcs02rm0_: thanks02:08
cs02rm0_np02:08
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dondongelmargol,thanx,ill check it02:08
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binary_goofyhi room! can somebody help me in getting wine working on my system?02:10
unfknblvblhey02:11
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kyjaok I have another ubuntu partition. and ubuntu on this partition, how can I mount the other one to rescue data. copy from old partition to this new one?02:14
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Orbywhat do i need to do, to get my box to accept all incoming mail going to domain1 and forward it to user@domain2 on another server?02:14
binary_goofycan somebody pls help me in resolving wine errors?02:14
oskudekyja: "mount" is the command to mount partitions...02:15
oskudebinary_goofy: wine doesnt have anything to do with ubuntu...02:15
kyjalike sudo mount hda002:15
Orbyyou need to tell it where to mount to02:16
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Orbyso sudo mount /dev/hdaX /somefolder02:16
oskudekyja: "man mount" can inform more02:16
kyjathx02:16
oskudekyja: but your on the right track02:16
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abionnnndoes anyone know how to get DRI working on an X700?02:17
binary_goofyoskude: i tried installing wine on my system. after installation, when i try to run it, gives me errors saying Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" and then terminates. so i guess in some way it has to do with the settings on my ubuntu system. thats why am here.02:17
abionnnnseemed to work ok with breezy, went back to mesa after I upgraded to dapper02:17
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oskudebinary_goofy: afaik, GLX has something to do with you graphic chip drivers...02:18
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davin_Hi guys, I just installed Beryl which didnt seem to work, so I reverted everything back, but now my alt-tab doesnt work? how do I fix it?02:20
binary_goofyoskude: am running an asus V3800-magic, which uses a 32MB RIVA TNT2 chipset developed by NVIDIA. have the proper driver installed for it.02:21
rubsohey guys, i need help opening xvid video file, thanks.02:21
Orbyanyone know how to get my box to accept mail from *@domain1 and forward it to another server at user@domain202:21
binary_goofyoskude: display is not a problem with anything else. what could be the cause of this error?02:21
oskudebinary_goofy: the only i can think is look in xorg.conf if the "glx" module is in there02:21
orbinrubso: what's the issue?02:22
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rubsoorbin: i've downloaded a tv show that requires xvid codec to run.02:22
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rubsoi tried using mplayer and xine, it doesn't play it.02:22
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davin_My alt-tab borked, how do I reassign/fix it?02:23
kothzmah.  anyone use an x-based irc client they actually like?02:23
unfknblvblgaim02:23
oskudekothz: xchat02:23
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orbinrubso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:24
yamakothz: I can think of a few: xchat, xchat-gnome, konversation...02:24
mneptokrubso: you want the FFMPEG codecs for GStreamer02:25
binary_goofyoskude: you were right. GLX module not found in xorg.conf. how do i work around this problem?02:25
rubsooh, ok i'll try to install it right now02:25
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oskudebinary_goofy: i got 'Load    "glx"' under 'Section "Module"'02:26
oskudebinary_goofy: but im not sure if "nv" driver supports that (if youre using that driver)02:26
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kyjakeeps complaining it cant find it in fstab or mtab :/02:27
binary_goofyoskude: am using the nvidia driver given by ubuntu as an update. so i add that to the module section? and restart X? or is there something else to do?02:27
wladstonguys, I've changed my video card, and now x wont start ... I'm on IRC at the command line!02:27
wladstonanyone can help ?02:27
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oskudebinary_goofy: dunno, you gotta try02:28
davin_wladston: what card?02:29
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oskudewladston: what driver do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and what card/chip do you have ?02:29
wladstonwell, I had a nvidea gforce 4000 pci ...02:29
kyjaahhh02:29
davin_wladston: your new one..02:29
wladstonnow I've installed a02:29
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oskudewladston: or you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and pick "nv" driver02:29
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wladstonPower Color ati radeon 9550 agp02:29
wickedpuppyati ?02:30
wladstonyeah02:30
wickedpuppyati support for linux sux ... pls complain to them02:30
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oskudewladston: in that case select "radeon" (or fglrx, after installing the driver)02:30
binary_goofyoskude: thanks. wil try. God bless.02:30
rubsomneptok: all the media players i have with extra codecs gives me an error msg that says : No demuxer found, stream format not recognised.02:30
wladstonokskude : I'll try ...02:30
wickedpuppyyou are the customer now .. you got the right to make hell of a noise02:30
wladstonhold on ...02:30
davin_oskude: can you help me? my alt-tab doesnt work and I need to fix/reassign it (using gnome)02:30
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boink!easysource02:31
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:31
rubsoorbin: check out my last msg02:31
oskudedavin_: didnt even know you can "break" it ;) sorry, never had such problem...02:31
wladstonarght ... I can't scrool up to see the command i have to enter!02:31
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davin_wladston: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:32
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mneptokrubso: did you install the ffmpeg codecs for gstreamer?02:32
wladstonthanks! Just found anyways ... pgip and pgdown :)02:32
rubsoyes02:32
mneptokrubso: then maybe that file is corrupted or otherwise problematic02:32
rubsoits working under windows02:33
mneptokand what does Windows tell you about it?02:33
davin_how do I reassign alt+tab to do the window-switch thingy that it normally does?02:33
rubsowith VLC too, but no luck under linux.02:33
mneptokhow is the video encoded? how is the sound encoded?02:33
oskudedavin_: have you tried to restart x ? (maybe you killed the process, or such)02:33
rubsomneptok: xvid Video, and its a HIGH resolution video, HD.02:34
davin_oskude: hmm ill try, i just uninstalled all my beryl/xgl stuff02:34
kyjahaha I got it =] 02:34
mneptokrubso: and the audio?02:34
rubsoi don't know anything about the audio02:34
mneptokrubso: mp3? aac? what?02:34
rubsoi really don't know02:34
mneptoktry install gstreamer-plugins-ugly02:35
rubsook02:35
mneptok*installing02:35
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wladstonauch ... now it's asking the video card bus identifier ....02:35
rubsomneptok: its already installed.02:36
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wladstoni really wonder what i have to type in ...02:36
wladstonmaybe AGP:1:0:0 ?02:36
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boinkdoes ubuntu desktop already install openoffice?02:36
Ricoboink: yes02:36
kothzwladston: do an 'lspci' and look for your video card... it'll have a PCI:x:x:x type address02:37
boinkta02:37
wickedpuppyyes02:37
wladstonwe'll, i'm going to try .... maybe it works ....02:37
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wladstonahn ... there is an lspci command ....02:38
boinkit's quite handy02:38
boinkalso handy is /proc as well02:38
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xiaochuanAll used KYLIN?!02:38
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kristianI just installed edgy and compiled a custom kernel and now the computer just stalls after the kernel is done booting, any suggestions?02:40
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davinhey I know why it didnt work, cause I used startx instead of turning on the PC :)02:40
stangaroohi guys02:40
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boinkkristian: how did you many your own kernel?02:40
boinkusing make-dpkg?02:40
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wladstonnow what ? Use the PCI:1:0:0 or the PCI:1:0:1 ???02:40
kristianboink, no i built it with just make and then edited menu.lst my self02:40
davincheers oksude02:40
wladstonboth maps to my video card02:40
stangarooanyone know how i can switch off my mouse pad on my  thinkpad?02:41
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kristianboink, I have runed custom kernels for years and never had a problem like this02:41
boinkdid you make an image file?02:41
diminthedamhello. i have the following messages when trying to install glib: 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.10.3 was found! What do i do about it?02:41
kristianboink, yes /usr/src/linux-2.6.18/arch/i386/boot/bzImage02:41
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boinkno, for booting02:41
oskudedavin: nice to hear that it works :) (next time use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart")02:42
kristianboink, no, do I have to?02:42
davinquick question, when I try do dd my harddrive (if) it totally fills my usb harddisk (off) to the max, why? should be a ~5gb image not 160gb02:42
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davinoskude: *adds to notes*02:42
boinkyes, initrd image file02:42
boinkit's maybe getting stuck there on the booting02:42
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boinkever made a custom kernel the debian way as well?02:42
kristianboink, isn't that just if you have scsi controllers or other drivers that needs to be loaded built as modules?02:42
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boinkit's quite handy02:42
Stevowho would be willing to help with a networking issue?02:42
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boinkdunno kristian .. it's hard for me to tell02:43
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kristianboink, I don't have any special hardware and I've booted this kernel .config with breezy02:43
boinkbut with make-kpg that's a very good way to ma your own kernel02:43
boinks/ma/make/02:43
kristianboink, i'll check into that02:43
boinkdid breezy use a 2.4 or a 2.6 kernel?02:44
poncho__1Stevo u need to ask the question02:44
kristianboink, how do I make a initrd package?02:44
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oskudedavin: cause youre dd'ing the whole partition ? (inluding "empty" bits)02:44
boinkthere's a make-initrd tool somewhere02:44
Stevoponcho> there's a few questions...02:44
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kristianboink, I used the same 2.6.18 kernel with breezy, just copied the .config file to my new edgy install02:44
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poncho__1Stevo ok start with one at time02:44
Stevoponcho> i've been trying for months to get wireless working, to no avail.02:44
boinkbut remember, edgy is extreme bleedying edge. the pain factor is higher02:45
Stevowhich i've found can be a common problem.02:45
davinoskude: ah, well I did like 'sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/usbdisk/backup/system/imagefile'02:45
boinkinstalling breezer is really nice02:45
diminthedami have question about instalilng glib. can anyone help?02:45
kristianboink, yes, I have edgy running on my workstation at home also with a custom kernel but I've installed it a couple of weeks ago02:45
boinkok02:45
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BuzZy!grip02:46
ubotugrip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number02:46
BuzZy!rip02:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:46
BuzZy!ripper02:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:46
Stevoanyhow, what conf files do i need to modify in order to get everything working?  i had it working one time, only with security turned off, and after reboot, i can't connect or anything.  net-mngr says there's no signal.02:46
oskudedavin: hmm, i would think /media just a place for mount points, but... (do you really need sudo to copy your usbstick?)02:46
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poncho__1Stevo did u do some looking in the ubuntu forums02:46
Stevoonly for the last 3 months02:46
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Stevolol02:47
poncho__1!wireless02:47
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:47
Stevoif you wanna pm i can copy/paste some readouts from the cli..02:47
oskudedavin: and iirc, usbdisk are mounted (automaticly) to /media/usbdisk, so plese dont do any directores there :/02:47
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boink!imap02:47
eskulol02:47
Stevoi've been there, that's why i'm here.02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:47
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boink!sylpheed02:48
ubotusylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 551 kB, installed size 1376 kB02:48
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GoreHatbuenas02:48
poncho__1Stevo i wont be any help for u but some of these people might be able to help02:48
wladstonfinally, the operation finished .... I wonder if it will work :(02:48
GoreHatalguien me puede ayudar?02:48
Stevodon't worry about it.  i can't run the network w/out WEP turned on anyway.02:48
poncho__1dont use wireless here02:48
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boinkGoreHat: no hablo espanol aqui02:48
kothzsteve: what kind of wireless card do you have?02:48
wladstoni wonder why it has to be SO complicated to swich vdeo cards...02:48
wladstonexit02:49
boink!tell GoreHat about es02:49
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Stevolinksys wpc54g02:49
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stangaroo'lo anyone out there know how to switch off my mouse pad02:49
davinoskude: what do you mean? you mean that Its wrong that I did a mkdir when it was mounted?02:49
wickedpuppyswitch off mouse pad ?02:50
kothzsteve: what have you done so far to get it working?02:50
oskudedavin: sorry, i may impreted that wrong, as my usbisk is in /dev/sda1, but i assume your hd is there ?02:50
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wickedpuppyi thought mouse pad is a piece of rubber ...02:50
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Stevondiswrapper to install driver.02:50
BuzZycan i run a gnome based program (grip) on kubuntu?02:51
GostyHi!!! can somedy help me with DNS? i need help with file named.conf.options and set apache for working with the new domain i don't know what i must type in allow-query can somebody help?02:51
kothzstevo: *shudders at ndiswrapper* :)02:51
Stevoplayed around with /etc/network/interfaces02:51
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oskudeBuzZy: yes02:51
davinoskude: yep, I got a s-ata hdd02:51
Stevokothz> what else is there?02:51
BuzZyhow?02:51
wickedpuppyBuzZy, sure ... i run k3b in gnome02:51
BuzZyoskude, how can i?02:51
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boinkapache is done in the httpd.conf or in the apache.conf02:51
kothzstevo: i've got a linksys wireless card, running with the native broadcom drivers02:51
oskudeBuzZy: by installing it and running it...02:51
boinknamed.conf is only for the name server, bind02:51
wickedpuppyBuzZy, install ?02:51
BuzZylol02:51
BuzZy:D02:51
kothzsteveo: sec02:52
BuzZythouth it needed an emulator02:52
BuzZy:D02:52
Stevokothz> really..?02:52
BuzZyso i can run grip?02:52
BuzZyright!!02:52
BuzZyhow can i install grip? there aren't any rep!!02:52
oskudedavin: dd if=/dev/sda1 will copy the whole partition, not just the (5gb) of used data...02:52
berentwhat is grip for02:52
oskude!enter02:52
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.02:52
wickedpuppyBuzZy, sudo apt-get install grip ...02:52
Stevoi believe it's a DNS issue on my part02:52
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Riottause sound juicer02:52
davinoskude: whoa I didnt know that, so how do I copy my 'filled' space?02:52
boink!mp302:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:53
Riottabetter than grip imo02:53
BuzZywickedpuppy, no result02:53
boinkcan the ubuntu xmms play mp3s?02:53
oskudedavin: cp, would be the "normal" copy command... but there are others "better" for backuping... maybe start with "rsync"02:53
wickedpuppyBuzZy, no result means nothing to us ... error message is ?02:53
davinoskude: okay ill look on into it, cheers mate :-)02:53
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wickedpuppypls pls pls pls give us something to work .... i beg of you ...02:54
GostyHi!!! can somedy help me with DNS? i need help with file named.conf.options and set apache for working with the new domain i don't know what i must type in allow-query can somebody help?02:54
BuzZywickedpuppy, :02:54
BuzZyunknown@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search Grip02:54
BuzZyunknown@ubuntu:~$02:54
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BuzZy---------------02:54
oskude!info grip > BuzZy02:54
ubotugrip: GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 440 kB, installed size 1268 kB02:54
boinkGosty: I said already .. named.conf is only for the name server, bind02:54
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boinkyou need to set up apache with the httpd.conf or the apache.conf02:54
wickedpuppyBuzZy, did you see my message ?02:54
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oskude!repos > BuzZy02:54
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Gostyboink: but i don't know what type as allow-query i have only local network02:55
boinkthough, you need to set up apache, no?02:55
BuzZywickedpuppy, "impossible to find grip"02:55
stangarooAnyone know where i can find linux+thinkpad FAQs?02:55
boink!laptop02:56
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org02:56
BuzZywickedpuppy,  so i need a rep02:56
wickedpuppynow we are somewhere ... i believe the bot has message ya .. pls kindly add the repos :P02:56
stangarooubotu: Ta!02:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Ta! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
wickedpuppyBuzZy, the bot has messaged you .. no ?02:56
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wickedpuppystangaroo, ubotu is a bot ..02:56
oskudeBuzZy: grip is in "universe" repo, activate it and youre off... (ubotu told you how)02:56
BuzZywickedpuppy,  ok but how can i know what rep i need?02:56
boinkyou can still thank it :)02:56
stangaroolol02:56
BuzZyok oskude02:57
whitedethman something's really screwed up with my clock settings02:57
BuzZytnx02:57
Gostyboink: i have in allow-query block now this: 127.0.0.1; 10.1.14.106  (my ip adress in the local network) is it ok?02:57
whitedethis there a way to change the time via terminal?02:57
stangarooubotu: thank you02:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thank you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:57
stangaroohehehe02:57
whitedeth!time02:57
ubotutime: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB02:57
wickedpuppyBuzZy, while ya there pls add the multiverse too ...02:57
whitedeth!clock02:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:57
davinis there like a graphical file manager for the console?02:57
boinksounds fine, but I don't know what you're trying to do exactly?02:57
oskudewhitedeth: date02:57
wickedpuppy!botabuse02:57
whitedeth!snack02:57
StAfZe6sup?02:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:57
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops02:57
BuzZyok wickedpuppy02:57
BuzZytnx02:57
wickedpuppywhitedeth, pls stop that02:57
whitedethbotabuse? :\02:57
davinsomething like norton commander02:57
whitedethim trying to figure out what it is for time.02:58
oskudedavin: i heard, "midnight commander" would be such, but never used..02:58
boinkdavin: midnight-commander works fine02:58
whitedeth!date02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
boinklooks just like norton commander02:58
davinboink, oskude: cheers02:58
whitedethbleh :(02:58
oskudewhitedeth: type "man date" in terminal02:58
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whitedethso there's no way to change the time via terminal? :\02:58
whitedethoh, cheers.02:58
boinkwhitedeth: ntpdate02:58
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wickedpuppywhitedeth, pls do not flood the channel using the bot .. if you need help pls ask02:59
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oskudewhitedeth: you can talk "privately" with the bot by typing "/msg ubout foobar"02:59
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Gostyboink: please type before message my nick...................and i have this problem: my PC name in the network is gosty-pc and ip adress 10.1.14.106 and i want to have something like mysql.gosty-pc ftp.gosty-pc   only for users in the network understand me?03:00
SuperSubanyone no how to install quicktime plugin?03:00
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boinkGosty: sure, that you do in the named.conf in Bind03:00
boinkor you could put that in your /etc/hosts file too03:00
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oskudeSuperSub: maybe you should say plugin for what...03:00
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SuperSubquicktime movies?03:01
mneptokboink: you'd have to add them to every hosts file on every machine03:01
boinkyes .. that's why they invented dns :)03:01
mneptok'zackly03:01
Gostyboink: oooh someone told me that i must change named.conf and have domain gosty-pc.lan03:01
whitedethEverytime I bring up the clock/date settings to adjust them, the window crashes :\03:01
boinkin the old days, you had to download the latest host file :P03:01
whitedethevery single time.03:01
Gostyboink: can i write with you by private?03:01
boinksorry, I'm a little busy at the moment03:01
boink!bind03:01
ubotubind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (dapper), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB03:01
mneptokGosty: you make sure BIND is installed and running, read through some named.conf examples you find on Google, and then use that machine as the DNS server for all the machines on your network.03:02
boinkthere are a lot of web resources on bind, Gosty03:02
oskude!quicktime > SuperSub03:02
SuperSubyes03:02
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boinkwhitedeth: do you want to set the time correctly on your PC?03:02
whitedethboink: Yes03:02
boinkthe nerd way of doing that is using ntpdate03:02
boink!ntpdate03:03
whitedethIt's an hour behind thanks to daylight savings.03:03
ubotuntpdate: The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is important. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 160 kB03:03
davinalso, is there something like a address bar for nautilus? (like konqueror-style)03:03
mneptokboink: the nerd way of doing it is with ntpd ;)03:03
whitedethill get that03:03
boinkyou need the closest time server03:03
oskudeSuperSub: i assume you want a quicktime plugin for a video player, read what ubotu send you03:03
Gostyboink: oh no the boy told me something really another03:03
Gostyboink: i'm so confused now03:03
boinkheh, ntpd :) of course03:03
mneptokGosty: what boy?03:03
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whitedeth4 Oct 13:03:38 ntpdate[22276] : no servers can be used, exiting03:03
SuperSubok03:03
boinkwhat's the closest time server for you?03:03
SuperSub;)03:04
whitedethhow would I find out?03:04
mneptokwhitedeth: sudo ntpdate time.berkeley.netdot.net03:04
Gostymneptok: BlueEagle from #xubuntu03:04
boinkwell, where are you?03:04
_stippi_hi, I installed the KDE and Xfce desktop environment along the default Gnome desktop, how can I change the boot+shutdown screen logos and the login screen back to the default Ubuntu theme?03:04
whitedethnew zealand03:04
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boinkok .. google the closest list from google: time server new zealand03:04
whitedethlol, now it's UK time here, thanks mneptok :P03:04
boinklike I would use: ntpdate ntp.demon.co.uk03:04
mneptokwhitedeth: sudo ntpdate ntp.iprolink.co.nz03:05
boinkkewl :)03:05
DivineAntCan anyone help me with sources.list syntax, i need tercap-compat in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe but either way i add it, it searches in the dists folder03:05
boinkthen set up ntpd to keep the time03:05
oskude_stippi_: just a wild guess: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop (but i would wait if theres a "better" solution)03:05
boinkthere's nothing like having the wrong time on the computer .. how horrible!03:05
_stippi_oskude: thanks03:05
mneptokwhitedeth: .nz public stratum 2 NTP servers are here - http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock2a.html03:05
_stippi_whitedeth: where in new zealand are you?03:06
davingot it, ctrl+L03:06
oskudeDivineAnt: maybe this can help http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:06
whitedethAuckland03:06
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boinkideally you want to use the timeserver closest to you03:06
whitedethwill it change the time instantaneously? Cos it doesnt seem to be changing anything.03:07
_stippi_whitedeth: cool I will be visiting NZ / Auckland for half a year03:07
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whitedeth_stippi_: This place sucks :)03:07
whitedethYep, time isnt changing at all. It's getting the right time from the servers, just not changing anything.03:07
boinkwhitedeth: it just gives yuor system the proper time03:07
oskudeDivineAnt: my line looks like this "deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse"03:07
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whitedethboink: And how is one to force the system to use that time as the correct time?03:08
_stippi_whitedeth: yeah right, you want to keep it for yourself...03:08
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boinkthen you would use ntpd to keep the time always correct03:08
boinkntpd will poll the timeserver ever so often to get the right system time03:08
whitedeth_stippi_: Actually, I hate it so much im leaving at the end of this year!03:08
_stippi_Does anyone know where to obtain a Polymere theme package installable on Dapper?03:08
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_stippi_whitedeth: You mean somewhere else in NZ?03:09
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krangdammit, why won't gnomebaker try to burn CDs with my CD-R drive instead of my DVD-ROM?03:09
whitedethboink: Fine with me, but how do I do it? It still says 1:09PM in the tray while it's actually 2:04 AM.03:09
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whitedeth_stippi_: Nope, going to Australia.03:09
boinkwhat does "date" say?03:09
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mneptokwhitedeth: you probably have the incorrect time zone set03:09
whitedethOct 403:09
boinkwhat time? "date" gives system time03:10
whitedethmneptok: No way to change it though since it just crashes everytime I try changing anytime.03:10
Gostymneptok: so what should i do? reinstall bind?03:10
mneptokwhitedeth: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/NZ /etc/localtime03:10
dragonfire1who will help me get through this install this morning03:10
oskude_stippi_: looked in kde-look.org ?03:10
diminthedamhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25650/03:10
Khamaelis there a way to get xen working in dapper?03:10
highnekoWhen I change my workspace, the name of it is displayed. How can I stop this?03:10
dragonfire1I'm in prepare disk I have 4 partions on the HD03:10
whitedethboink "Thu Oct  5 02:10:13 NZDT 2006". Perfect. "date" gives the correct time but the tray has it all wrong.03:10
mneptokGosty: is BIND actually installed?03:10
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Gostymneptok: i installed bin9 and bind_utilities03:11
oskudediminthedam: would help if you post the _whole_ error... with the command that causes it...03:11
whitedethboink: Why is the tray showing it wrong? :\03:11
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krangHas anyone else had gnomebaker problems? I select one drive, and it tries to burn with the other03:11
diminthedamoskude: it was a 'make command' with heaps of output. should i give the command i ran and error, or the whole thing?03:12
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oskudediminthedam: did you do "./configure" first ?03:12
boinkwhitedeth: heh, then it could be something in gnome.03:12
whitedethwow.03:12
boinksadly I'm not a gnome expert, I'm learning too :)03:12
diminthedamoskude: yes, i mean ./configure03:12
boinkI've always used windowmaker03:13
whitedethsuddenly one day I wake up and gnome is all screwed??03:13
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boinklet's hope not03:13
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whitedethSo windows screws up when you install something...but Linux is worse...it just screws up on it's own?!03:13
whitedethwow.03:13
boinkbut at least the time on your box seems in order now03:13
oskudediminthedam: did you install "build-essential" package ?03:13
whitedeththe time isnt "in order" untill it shows it correctly.03:13
KenSentMeWhy can't i see the userrights of files when i connect to a ftp server in nautilus?03:13
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mneptokGosty: so then all you have to do is edit /etc/bind/named.conf and create /etc/bind/local.zone and put the correct entries in those. you'll be making a network called "local.zone" and creating entries for "foo.local.zone" and "bar.local.zone" and then setting the other machines to use this machine as their DNS server03:13
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mneptokGosty: i think you should spend some time reading about BIND before doing anything, though.03:14
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diminthedamoskude: yes03:15
oskudediminthedam: btw, what are you compiling ? sure its nowhere in ubuntu repo ?03:15
highnekoWhen I open a program in gnome an outline of the windows is displayed. Can I stop that?03:15
nukuhi which is the best repository to get win32codecs and such for edgy? use seveas dapper repos or is there an actual edgy repository?03:15
diminthedamoskude: i am compiling gaim-vv. couldnt find it in reps. had to install glib-2 first, it told me03:15
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oskudediminthedam: hmm, whats gaim-vv ? i hope you didnt compile glib to /usr03:16
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mneptokoskude: gaim-vv is like gaim, but with more v's for your pleasuring.03:17
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oskudediminthedam: and the latest news i see is from "Oct 07, 2005" at http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/ ...03:17
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sam_kWhen I right click to create a new document it give me a option to load premade templates, where do I make these templates?03:18
oskudediminthedam: and this http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html says "Please don't expect it to work." ;)03:18
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diminthedamoskude: gaim-vv is for video conf. i compiled glib with ./configure, make and make install. thats it. i see the news...03:19
sureshothey can someone tell me how to make this file an executable file /home/sureshot/Desktop/cedega_timedemo_installer.03:19
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oskudediminthedam: and ekiga wont work for you ?03:19
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segfaultsureshot, chmod +x filename03:20
sureshotthanks03:20
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segfaultnp03:20
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diminthedamoskude: i need to conf with windows client. they cant get net meeting to run. i need something we both have. skype? no vid for linux03:20
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oskudediminthedam: well, you better ask in gaim-vv forum/list/chat ...03:21
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diminthedamoskude: tanks03:21
hosenscheisser#ubuntu-de03:21
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oskudediminthedam: and did you read this ? "There will be no further gaim-vv releases, as code will be added to the main gaim program."03:22
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mneptokdiminthedam: Ekiga. that's what it's for.03:22
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oskudediminthedam: do if you really need gaim (with video) you could try theis cvs/or such... but i would use ekiga...03:24
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BelialMkIIdoes Gaim support video?03:24
BelialMkIII though aMSN was the only IM client with that03:24
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Bazzievery other im client has that :)03:24
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diminthedammneptok: maybe am super thick, but i=havent been able to join any server, when i can chat with a netmeeting person03:26
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BelialMkIIIve resorted to running a Virtual amchine with win2k in it to use cam software, but thats casue the driver for my camera is pretty shoddy03:27
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mneptokdiminthedam: i thought your immediate need was A/V <-> NetMeeting03:29
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mneptokdiminthedam: in which case, i don't understand the "Ekiga only works with NetMeeting" problem03:29
ArafangionKopete is supposed to be able to use cameras.03:29
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chris_Hey, can I delete files in /var/cache/apt/archives ? The .deb files are taking up huge amounts of space...03:32
frogzoo/1203:32
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diminthedammneptok: i was hoping to do video conf with a netmeeting client03:32
Bazzichris_: apt-get clean afaik03:32
oskudechris_: sudo apt-get clean03:32
chris_Thanks!03:32
diminthedammneptok: thought giam-vv would work with their MSN03:32
mneptokdiminthedam: like i said, use Ekiga03:33
mneptok"Ekiga (formely known as GnomeMeeting) is an open source VoIP and video conferencing application for GNOME. Ekiga uses both the H.323 and SIP protocols. It supports many audio and video codecs, and is interoperable with other SIP compliant software and also with Microsoft NetMeeting."03:33
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hchey03:33
hci deleted /etc/init.d/samba03:33
hchow can i restore it?03:33
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boinkheh ... not a good idea there03:33
unfknblvblwhat packages for vlc do i need to load to read .mov files properly ?03:34
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hcboink: i know :p03:34
dondonghi,people,any1 can help with this:when install a game it echos:.setup7327: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:34
unfknblvbl!mov03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
oskudehc: mybe with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install the-package-name-that-gives-that-file"03:34
boink!codecs03:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:34
mneptok!quicktime03:34
unfknblvblthats the word boink03:34
unfknblvblty03:34
boinkasking about codecs is a common one03:34
boinkthere are patent/copyright issues03:34
dondongthe problem is what is "libgtk-1.2.so.0"03:35
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raulgnome-art isnt working it closes after selecting an item from menu. What is the reason behind this?03:35
oskudedondong: apt-file search libgtk-1.2.so.0 would show you which package(s) has that file03:35
oskudedondong: and i get "libgtk1.2" :)03:36
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unfknblvbli searched for mov in all 3 of those links03:36
dondongoh,oskude,ill try03:36
unfknblvblbut nothing >.<03:36
hc/var/cache/apt/archives/samba-common_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1_i386.deb /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.conffiles /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.config /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.md5sums /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.templates /usr/share/app-install/desktop/Xfsamba.desktop /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kcmsambaconf.desktop /usr/share/cups/doc-root/es03:36
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orbindondong: what game?03:36
mneptokunfknblvbl: .mov is usually QucikTime03:36
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dondong Alien Arena 200703:37
dondong:>orbin03:37
unfknblvblyeh03:37
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oskudedondong: that must be a very old game ?03:37
unfknblvblbut innit quicktime apple/windoze ?03:37
dondongoskude,its  Alien Arena 200703:37
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oskudedondong: try installing libgtk1.2 "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"03:38
dondongyeah,im aptin'03:38
dondongk,done,thanx oskude,thanx all03:39
mneptokunfknblvbl: my point is, you should be using "apt-cache search quicktime" ;)03:39
oskudedondong: have fun :)03:39
dondong:>03:39
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unfknblvbli have mneptok03:41
davidwany idea why a bnx2 driver, compiled from stock 2.6.18 would not work (showing up as eth2 and eth3 instead of eth0 and eth1!?!?), whereas a fedora core 5 live CD does...?03:41
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unfknblvbli'm reading the SPM now03:41
malixhi all03:41
Alakazam_suppers03:41
unfknblvbli installed quicktime-x11utils03:42
unfknblvblbut its missing video and audio codecs03:42
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BreaKIce I have added a .ppd file to /usr/share/cups/model/ and restarted cups, but the new driver doesn't show up in system-config-printer on centos 4? did i miss something?03:42
mneptokunfknblvbl: libquicktime0 - A library for reading and writing Quicktime files  <--- looks rather promising, eh? ;)03:42
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xamoxis it possible to disable ipv6?03:42
Mehrdadwhen's 6.10 coming?03:42
oskude!ipv6 > xamox03:42
unfknblvbli've got it mneptok03:43
dondonghope it is not 6.1203:43
malixI find a bug on Firefox package  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840 but after 8 months the bug is still here. I wont help with the solution but I need someone interested03:43
oskudeMehrdad: when its done...03:43
Mehrdadwhen it's going to be done?:D03:43
lexamlol03:43
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lexamMehrdad if your impatient you can download the beta03:44
mneptokunfknblvbl: be aware, Apple changes their codecs about every 12 minutes, so libquicktime will allow playback of some stuff, but not every .mov you find.03:44
lexambut I wouldn't suggest it unless you report the bugs03:44
MehrdadI did it, i'm curious about the final version03:44
unfknblvbl>.<03:44
lexamAH03:44
mneptokunfknblvbl: exactly.03:44
unfknblvblty anyways03:44
oskudemalix: ist that bug in "vanilla" fx too ?03:44
lexamHow is the beta is it graphically different?03:44
jay__[help] How can i open a wmv file on a webpage with gmplay, it tells "New face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file(~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)", What is wrong? How can deal with it?03:44
Mehrdadthe splash is so cool03:45
DivineAntMehrdad: Ubuntu has a six month release cycle, and dapper was released abot june, so ill guess about december03:45
mneptokunfknblvbl: if i ever snap and drive to Apple HQ with the RPG, i'll pick you up on the way.03:45
Mehrdadbut other UI elements is same as dapper03:45
unfknblvblhaha ty mneptok03:45
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mneptok6.10 gets released at the end of this month.03:45
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unfknblvblthe funny thing is i sell apple in my part time job03:45
highnekoIs there any gnome program to backup everything?03:45
brittXML::Parser03:45
MehrdadDivineAnt, 6.06 was LTS, that's why it took more, 6.10 will be october but when in october is my question03:46
lexamI can't wait, I'm debating on using the 64bit version or not.03:46
brittwhat module do I need?03:46
unfknblvbltheir comps aren't bad for general use03:46
jay__[help] When i open a wmv file on a webpage with gmplayer, it tells "New face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file(~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)", What is wrong? How can deal with it?03:46
jribjay__: install mplayer-fonts03:46
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malixoskude I don't know03:46
malixhow I can check?03:47
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britthey im trying to compile gaim and I need XML::Parser for perl03:47
brittwhich i dont have03:47
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oskudemalix: i mean, "ubuntu" doesnt "make" firefox... so try the "vanilla" fx and complain at mozilla...03:47
Dimensionshow do icheck if my php is installed correctly ?03:47
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mneptokbritt: there may be a apckaged version via apt, or you could use CPAN03:47
Dimensionsi did apt-get install php503:47
KenSentMeWhy can't i see the userrights of files when i connect to a ftp server in nautilus?03:47
oskudeDimensions: make a php file and open it03:48
jribubotu: tell Dimensions about lamp03:48
brittmneptok: i'm compiling the beta03:48
oskudeDimensions: ment "run" it03:48
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mneptokbritt: the beta of what?03:48
xScrewballxg-day03:48
Dimensionsya i have a file of php but can't open it ... in browser ...03:48
Khamaelis it dangerous to use the nvidia beta drivers in dapper?03:48
brittmneptok: gaim03:48
brittversion 2.0beta303:48
oskudeDimensions: do you have a webserver running ?03:48
xScrewballxi'm having problems with video codecs03:48
mneptokbritt: i meant xml::parser03:48
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brittmneptok: it didnt specify03:48
britti assume the newest version i can apt03:49
xScrewballxtryinf to get stup totem running installed w32codecs03:49
mneptokbritt: you need xml:parser, yes?03:49
brittmneptok: yes03:49
britt:)03:49
mneptok^^ britt: there may be a packaged version via apt, or you could use CPAN  ^^03:49
brittlol03:49
brittjust use xml:parser?03:49
malixoskude I reported the bug to Mozilla also but the problem is on Ubuntu because the version downloaded from mozilla site work without problem03:49
brittin apt?03:49
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xScrewballxnow video's washed out/burnt and stupid totem still doesn't run03:50
mneptokbritt: no, search apt for xml. does it have xml::parser for Perl? if not, install via CPAN.03:50
xScrewballxuninstalled w23codec and reinstalled vlc03:50
oskudemalix: well, i heard of problems modyfing fx code... so maybe theres a fix, but they are not allowed to modify it ;)03:50
xScrewballxcan anyone help?03:50
malixon the bug I also reported the difference that I have discovered between Firefox packaged by Ubuntu and the one distributed by Mozilla.org03:50
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oskudemalix: as you *have* to "verify" your fixes with fx-devs before you are allowed to modify the code and call it firefox...03:51
brittgot it thx03:51
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britt:)03:51
Dimensionsoskude:  i isntalled apache2 but when i open localhost/hello.php it opens many browsers and says Forbidden u dont have permission to access /hello.php on this server and ..... at bottom it says Apache/1.3.34 at 127.0.0.1 Port 80 ?03:51
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mneptokmalix: if the problem is specific to an Ubuntu build you should report it on Launchpad03:51
brittshoudl have looked there first, i assumed apt wouldnt find it03:51
Slimhi03:51
WulongIs there any form for Ubuntu mini install?03:51
malixoskude is I reported it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/3384003:52
oskudeDimensions: then make sure "www-data" user is allowed to read that file03:52
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BuzZy!rep03:52
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uboturep: lisp command interpreter frontends to librep. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-11ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 96 kB03:52
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BuzZy!repository03:52
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:52
oskudesorry, cant help you more...03:53
A[D] minSwhere i can find amule 0.47c ?03:53
AngryElfhey all, when I putty(ssh) into my box I get color coding in the terminal but not in emacs -- any way around that?03:53
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Dimensionsoskude: how to do that ?03:53
oskudemalix: maybe posting a usefull! site that doesnt work with that bug...03:54
malixoskude the bug is on every site03:54
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oskudeDimensions: chmod is one way... but how about doing a dir "public_html" in your (not root) users home dir, and then you can access that at "http://localhost/~username"03:55
oskudemalix: well, i have popups depressed, so i havent needed that "feature" never...03:55
linopilhi03:56
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wickedpuppyBuzZy, still having problems with adding repo ?03:56
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malixoskude just go to a site that have a link that open a popup click on link and the popup open the second time you click on it the popup remain in background03:56
BuzZywickedpuppy,  no ;)03:57
oskudemalix: well i hate popups (i open all in tabs)...03:57
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wickedpuppyAngryElf, programming issit ?03:57
wickedpuppyBuzZy, glad to hear that :P03:57
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chromium6I finally got radeon and drm modules to load for the xserver.  I show a good xv extension, any idea on how to enable DRI in opengl03:57
BuzZywickedpuppy,  hehe03:57
UKMattIf I were trying to create a short .mpg or some kind of video file (from scratch) what software should I use?03:57
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malixoskude so if you have the popup already opened click on a link it seems that doesn't work but the popup don't come in foreground03:58
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malixoskude this doesn't happen with the package istributed by Mozilla03:59
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unfknblvblmneptok: mplayer works beautifully03:59
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Khamaelhas anybody who uses the nvidia beta drivers har any problems with it and/or aiglx?03:59
unfknblvblshame it had no simple gui03:59
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mneptokunfknblvbl: smashing.03:59
KenSentMeDoes anyone use the nautilus option to connect to an ftp server?04:00
ALMimonihi, how can i see status for wget working in the background by terminal?04:00
unfknblvblmneptok: i thought you would be excited04:00
malixoskude attention is not the popup blocked by popup blocker (that open automatically) but a popup requested by user04:00
mneptokKenSentMe: i haven't used ftp in years, really04:00
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mneptokunfknblvbl: *almost* soiled myself. almost. ;)04:00
str4ndARGH! ATi sucks04:00
unfknblvblhehe04:00
str4ndfglrx == symlink to /dev/null ?04:01
KenSentMemneptok: well, i do, but nautilus doesn't show me the chmod options of files and folders04:01
mneptokKenSentMe: have you tried gftp to see if it meets your needs?04:01
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mneptokKenSentMe: talked to someone on GIMPnet's #nautilus?04:02
UnIDataubuntu 6.10 when ?04:02
KenSentMemneptok: i tried that, but i thought maybe it was a bug in nautilus04:02
unfknblvblOctober 26thhhhhhhhhhhhh04:02
KenSentMemneptok: i'll try that04:02
UnIDatathx04:02
mneptokKenSentMe: may be a bug in Nautilus. if so, you should speak to the Nautilus devs.04:02
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UnIDataon ubuntu what is the best MTA ?04:03
wickedpuppymail server ?04:03
meson_rayhi all04:03
KenSentMemneptok: do you mean #nautilus @ gimpnet or at gnome.org?04:03
mneptokUnIData: the same as any other Unix variant. your choice.04:03
UnIDatayes mail server04:03
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mneptokKenSentMe: #nautilus on irc.gnome.org (which is part of GIMPnet)04:03
UnIDataok04:03
KenSentMemneptok: ah, ok04:03
wickedpuppypostfix ... what else ?04:04
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mneptokwickedpuppy: some people really love sendmail or exim04:04
meson_rayi have ubuntu installed on a 2.5 gig partition, and want to move stuff to other partitions - that i cannot wipe - and was wondering what directories i should move?  will a soft link work for that or would hard be better?04:04
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wickedpuppymneptok, really ... sodoku fans perhaps .. i mean sendmail fans04:05
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mneptokwickedpuppy: my boss is one of them04:05
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kakklOMFG http://www.nanoy.org/se.php?id=65 got defaced LOL04:08
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meson_raydoes anybody have any ideas?04:09
lokedkUsing the latest ubuntu iso, i am trying to boot it on my laptop but when it comes to mounting root filesystems the splash screen disappears and all i see is black screen with "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel".. and nothing happens04:09
unfknblvblwhats a good download manager with a schedule thingy ?04:09
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Alakazam_meson_ray, any ideas about what.04:11
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Alakazam_lokedk, try using the safe graphics install option04:11
meson_rayi have ubuntu installed on a 2.5 gig partition, and want to move stuff to other partitions - that i cannot wipe - and was wondering what directories i should move?  will a soft link work for that or would hard be better?04:11
lokedkOkay i'll try04:11
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lokedksame thing happens04:13
Alakazam_meson_ray, i dont even know what you are talking about.04:13
docmurHello all04:13
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leng__hello04:13
meson_rayi want to move files from my ubuntu installation onto different partitions04:13
Alakazam_lokedk, im not too sure then man. i dont know why its doing that. have you checked the MD5SUM?04:13
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docmurI just upgraded to edgy but my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd are missing04:13
Alakazam_meson_ray, why?04:13
docmur??? can I use mknod to restore them04:13
meson_raybecause of my partitioning, i had to install ubuntu on a 2.5 gig partition04:13
meson_rayi have space on other partitions, but i'm not willing to format04:14
Alakazam_meson_ray, if you start moving rap around, you're going to jack the OS up04:14
Alakazam_rap = crap04:14
Alakazam_i need to go buy some cigs, i'll be back in a little.04:14
meson_raythat's why i'd make a link04:14
Alakazam_nick Alakazam_AFK04:14
lokedkAlakazam_: I haven't.. but i have tried with both serveral of thoes i got send by snailmail and some i downloaded myself04:14
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userbnhfdhmcfdkjkkjdf04:15
lokedkdoubt that 10 printet cd's are broken04:15
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meson_raywell if i jack the OS up, that's my fault, isn't it?  i'm just asking how to best do it with the least chance of messing everything up04:16
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lokedkcheck cd for defects give busybox04:17
vimikeHi. I'm using xchat2-gnome in 6.06. The "user list" is only a small icon on the bottom left. How can I make it a "list" again that is visible all the time?04:17
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Khamaelis there a howto for aiglx and the new nvidia beta drivers?04:18
boink!nvidia04:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:19
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berenthow do u chat on irc on console04:19
berentany pointers04:19
chromiumfinally fixed my ATI driver for opengl04:19
Khamaelberent: bitchx or irssi04:19
berentirssi04:20
boinkbarent: irssi is for grown ups04:20
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berenthaha04:20
boinkapt-get install irssi, but it takes a while to learn how to use04:20
lalalai linke irssi quite wel04:20
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boinkbitchx is fine if you're age 1304:20
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Khamaelwhat is the difference?04:20
lalalabit of a learning curve but not that difficult04:20
berentdo u think i am 1304:20
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chromiumfglrx is for the birds04:21
boinkon the internet, anyone can be 13 :P04:21
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DrZeushi all04:21
ProN00bi somehow edited my gconf in a place i shouldn't04:21
ProN00bcan i reset it ?04:21
DrZeusQuestion: how is it done for having full-duplex sound?04:21
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malixoskude only after you have left I see You are no more connected04:21
berenthow to learn irssi chat onconsole04:21
malixmaybe you miss some messages04:21
oskudemalix: well, i said i had to go home...04:21
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beligumHi all, I wrote a little essay on the concept and advantages of videohelpdesking on Linux (and FOSS in general), since you're all fellow Linux users/developers, I thought it might be an interesting read: http://blog.beligum.org04:22
DrZeusdoes anybody knows how to get full duplex audio?04:22
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oskudemalix: but i would call it a feature that popups dont get focus ;)04:23
DrZeuseach time I get sound from 2 sources(webpage, player) they cant.  The first one that was playing keeps the audio, and the other app has no sound04:23
oskudeDrZeus: your audio chip and drivers have to support full duplex (pretty normal these days)04:23
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oskudeDrZeus: thats no duplex, full duplex means an application can record and play at the same time04:24
DrZeusoh, then, i cant hear sound from 2 sources04:24
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DrZeusi havent tried recording actually04:24
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docmurI just upgraded to edgy but my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd are missing04:24
docmur??? can I use mknod to restore them04:24
oskudeDrZeus: i think that has something to do with the mixer and the "audio engine" type you use...04:25
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DrZeusoskude: then, how is it done for being available to listen audio from 2 sources, at the same time(like windoze for example)04:25
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DrZeusalsamixer means I use alsa?04:25
oskudeDrZeus: sorry, never had that "problem" as i dont even want 2 sound sources at the same time (got even system sounds disabled)04:26
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DrZeusI see04:26
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oskudeDrZeus: but im sure ubotu knows04:26
malixoskude its not a feature, attention are not automatically opened popup (popup blocker) but a popup requested by user when click on a link04:26
DrZeus!alsa04:27
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems04:27
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UnIDataquit04:27
PhilsenAskhey guys04:27
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malixoskude and this work correctly with Firefox distributed by Mozilla.org04:27
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oskudemalix: got a page (link) to test that ?04:27
PhilsenAskis on the ubuntu servers a webgui chat?04:27
malixoskude I'm preparing it04:27
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berentanyone on irssi chat on linux console04:28
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oskudemalix: roger04:28
berentany tutorials04:28
etienne_oh my good theres a lot of people here04:28
nateAnyone know how to setup a bonded (bond0) interface that will work with the network scripts using dhcp? I can only get static to work.04:28
tennerberent: for what? irssi?04:28
berenton command prompt04:28
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berentjust to know it04:28
BuzZywhen will exit edge?04:28
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PhilsenAskis some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?04:28
BuzZy!edge04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about edge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
PhilsenAskis some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?04:28
PhilsenAskis some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?04:28
PhilsenAskis some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?04:28
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oskude!wait04:29
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wait - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:29
slopPhilsenAsk, that's a good way to get banned...04:29
PhilsenAsksorry04:29
PhilsenAskbut it's very important04:29
eXistenZNo one dares to ban PhilsenAsk04:29
nateTry asking the question in a manner that makes sense.04:29
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BuzZywhen will exit edge?04:29
slopPhilsenAsk, what's a webgui chat?04:29
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oskudePhilsenAsk: and i dont even understand what you want...04:30
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mdcmbhola04:30
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PhilsenAskwebgui is a Content Managment System and i need an channel to ask somebody who knows a lot of it04:30
tennerberent: eber tried the official irssi.org?04:31
boinktry Xchat04:31
tenner*ever04:31
berenttenner : never04:31
ProN00bi somehow edited my gconf in a place i shouldn't, can i somehow reset it ?04:31
berentshud i04:31
oskudePhilsenAsk: thats better :) if they dont mention a chatroom on their website, there propably aint any...04:31
etienne_Hi, i'm looking for a ubuntu package how-to04:31
slopetienne_, what package?04:31
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nateI think he means howto create a package04:32
davidwis thre a way to change what a device shows up as in sysfs?04:32
tennerberent: no, never visit any official site if you are searching for any help04:32
segfaultetienne_, search google for debian package how to the process is the same04:32
etienne_slop: how-to about how the packaging system works to install and maintain them04:32
davidweth2 should be called eth004:32
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slopetienne_, ah ok04:32
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nateAnyone know how to setup a bonded (bond0) interface that will work with the network scripts using dhcp? I can only get static to work.04:32
DrZeusanybody knows howto get incoming sound from different source, happening at the same time sharing the soundcard?04:32
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berenttenner : when i type irc on my console it opens a window where i donno what to do04:32
iratikI'm experiencing _severe_ performance loss - I can't ssh in, so I went onsite to the actual server itself (running ubuntu 6.06LTS LAMP w/ ispconfig). When I get onsite, I enter the login, password - nothing , it just sits - this happened yesterday and I solved it by doing a hard-reset (only the boot took 17 minutes, it usually takes less than 2 minutes, and it mostly was while the kernel was loading) - Do you think this is a hardware 04:32
oskudeetienne_: you mean for user or for a package maintainer ?04:32
PhilsenAsk!04:33
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etienne_oskude: user04:33
tennerberent: when you use irssi, why do you type "irc"?04:33
PhilsenAskthanks :-D04:33
nateiratik: load is probably through the roof. you need to be able to see whats using the most resources04:33
oskudeetienne_: hmm, dunno about that. sorry04:33
berenttenner: both r same04:33
iratiknate: What do I look for in top?04:33
slopetienne_, you could probably google around for one, or check the ubuntu forums04:33
tennerberent: say what?04:34
jendaDoes anyone have an ide where I could find a setting in xchat to change the default browser? This way it always uses Galeon.04:34
nateI'd start with anything that's using the majority of resources.04:34
etienne_oskude: ok because i was wondering about hte graphical interface and also the ubuntu faq says to not mix up deb and ubuntu bpackages04:34
iratiknate: I looked and it said that system usage was at 8% (but it took about 1.5 minutes to pull up top)04:34
DrZeusdoes anybody can hear sound from 2 sources at the same time in ubuntu?04:34
berenttenner: try typing them same window opens04:34
nateif nothing is, but you're load is over 3.0 you've got a rogue process sucking up resources.04:34
BuzZywhen will exit edge?04:34
BuzZywhen will exit edge?04:34
DrZeusdoes anybody can hear sound from 2 sources at the same time in ubuntu?04:34
slopDrZeus, i can04:34
natejust type uptime at the CLI. see what the load average is04:34
nateit's quicker then top04:34
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jendaBuzZy: If you mean the release of Edgy, then that's planned for october 1604:35
iratiknate: type uptime?04:35
iratikwell , its taken 12 minutes - but the login just went through , i'll try it04:35
nateyeah, type "uptime" at the command line04:35
slopDrZeus, are you talking about for music production?04:35
nateI know it sucks, I've been in your situation before.04:35
DrZeusslop: did you configure anything, or it just worked? I can only have audio from 1 source, the next one is muted04:35
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oskudeetienne_: you may ask your questions here, and yes even very newbie ones :) for mixing ubuntu and debian packages, its cause debian and ubuntu may not have the same versions of the libraries that the program may need, but it theorey, they are compatible04:35
natetrying to diagnose an overloaded system04:35
iratikLoad average: 16.65, 17.53, 16.6204:35
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nateyeah something is sucking resources04:35
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tennerberent: that was not my question. if you install "firefox", do you type "thunderbird" to start it? i guess not, but anyway. good howTos on using irrssi are on the main site irssi.org and yyou might have some luck in #irssi04:35
iratikThats over 304:35
slopDrZeus, when i'm doing music production, i can use more than one source by setting up the JACK server04:35
nateif top doesn't show a specific process that's using the majority share, it's a bit harder to find it04:36
iratiknate: So what do I look for?04:36
nateI'd start with "dmesg"04:36
iratikis there a way to find the current load?04:36
DrZeusslop: no, just listening.  I run a media player and it has audio.  I close it and then try to listen audio from a website, and it doesnt04:36
natesee if there is anything in there about errors04:36
natethe current load is the first field of Load Average04:36
nateso 16.6504:36
iratikdmesg is hardware errors right?04:36
natedmesg is info right from the kernel04:36
tennerberent: besides that the general usage doesn't differ too much from any other irc client04:36
natecheck that and look for errors in scsi or some other device04:37
berenttenner : but how do i start there04:37
tennerberent: command-wise04:37
iratikdmesg | grep <anything i should type here> ?04:37
nateno just "dmesg"04:37
nateor04:37
lordiIm new to linux. Is it 386 desktop version that i need for my P4?04:37
natedmesg | less04:37
natethat'd be better I guess04:37
etienne_oskdude: ok but yourself, do you use the x package manager or do you do your packaing stuff off the console?04:37
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natebut I'm sure the last 200 lines will tell you what you need04:37
iratiknate: I don't see anything that looks like an erro04:38
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iratiki'll pass it through grep for 'failed' or 'error'04:38
malixoskude here you find the example that doesn't work http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox/04:38
oskudeetienne_: i use apt-get, but people use aptitude or synaptic too, it "really" doesnt matter...04:38
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x_roblordi: yup04:38
xamoxwhat's a good light weight file manager, like something for fluxbox?04:39
tennerberent: try typing /connect irc.freenode.net04:39
iratikThe only thing I get is: [some long number]  cdrom: open failed04:39
iratikthat isnt it04:39
berenttenner : thats like a good boy04:39
tennerberent: then go on with /join #ubuntu after you're connecte04:39
tennerd04:39
nateyou may just have to reboot it and open a window with the primary log files04:39
natejust monitor it04:39
natewait for the hang to occur04:39
tennerand then start reading lots and lots of docs plus the manpage04:39
tyler_how long should an initial charge of a new li-polymer battery be? anyone please?04:39
lordiThanx x_rob, do you know if the installer (after my xp install) can create a swap partition in my unpartitonated space on the disk?04:40
iratikOn top,  mysql is taking 387mb of on the 'VIRT' column - is this normal?04:40
slopxamox, try xfe04:40
natelordi: for partitioning after the disk all ready has an OS on it I would suggest Gparted04:40
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oskudemalix: ok, still, i would call that a feature ;) well, actually, the firefox in ubuntu should work like "vanilla" fx, otherwise itws not allowed to be called firefox...04:40
x_roblordi: yes,it should be able too, you've just got to make sure that you make a root partition aswell04:40
nateiratik: dunno, it's your server. is it normal?04:40
natenobody can tell you what's normal on your machine.04:40
noqmanI need to know how to setup a vpn from my linux box into a windows server the windows system is already running vpn on its side but Ive never done vpn from my fedora box; anybody know a good tutorial  that will help me04:40
berenttenner : thanks04:41
xamoxslop:  thx04:41
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tennerberent: what are you using right now?04:41
slopxamox, np04:41
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iratiknate: I'll ask #mysql if its normal - but on '%CPU' it says between 10-16% which isn't much right?04:41
oskudemalix: of wait, theres not the trademarked firefox logo in ubuntu, ok...04:41
berenttenner : xchat04:41
natesounds normal for sql04:41
nateif it were 99%, that'd be your culprit04:41
natewe have a mail server here with NFS problems04:41
nateit likes to shoot the load to 100+04:42
natebut top shows nothing using excessive cpu04:42
nateit's very annoying04:42
natetook me a while to find it.04:42
iratikIs there a way to 'catch' a program that blows the system load?04:42
oskudemalix: i would be curious if that "feature" remains when you compile form the deb-src...04:42
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berenttenner: also how will u open a web browser when on command line i dont like lynx04:42
iratikdmesg doesn't tell me much04:42
tennerberent: why not keep using it? you seem to be not really aware of things that you're facing right now, so why change to irss?04:42
malixoskude I call this a bug and not a feature04:43
tennerberent: you're in X?04:43
berenttenner: yes i am in X04:43
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etienne_oskude: ok, i'm just a bit lost. Just installed ubuntu and the only thing i found so far is the gnome app install thing ... anyways i will read up on the subject04:43
tennerberent: just open a browser you have installed04:43
berenttenner : what happened for me to be aware04:43
malixoskude the second popup open but don't come in foreground as expected04:43
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berenttenner: i know but how to if i am on command prompt if i want min overhead04:44
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oskudeetienne_: you dont "need" anything else than the synaptic package manager (under administration) but for me, terminal/console tools are faster to use...04:44
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etienne_oskude : i'm used to use a shell as well04:44
etienne_looking at synaptic right now04:45
malixoskude I can try to compile from source but as I reported on launchpad https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840 there are difference on linked libraries04:45
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oskudeetienne_: then i would recommend apt-get or aptitude04:45
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oskudemalix: so you mean the "bug" is outside fx ?04:45
malixoskude may be the bug is due a bug on one of this library. But I need hel to investigate this04:45
tyler_how long should an initial charge of a new li-polymer battery be? anyone please?04:45
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oskudemalix: btw, in what specification does this behaviour (and command) belong ?04:46
diminthedammy ekiga keeps crashing when trying to detect NAT. Any ideas?04:46
Ti_Uhlhello04:46
malixoskude excuse me may be the bug is in one of those libraries but I repeat I don't know how to investigate04:46
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gangstercan anyone tell me how to deactivate automount.04:47
iratikthanks for the help nate04:47
Ti_Uhlhow do i install a sun jdk on ubuntu Dapper server ? there doesn't seem to be anything in the apt repo's. I've added the universe and multiverse resources04:47
oskudemalix: well, my motto is "no one needs popups", so im not so motivated to pursue this :P04:47
valvolagangster, just open gnome-volume-manager04:47
berentgangster : edit ur /etc/fstab04:47
malixoskude I need someone that would help me on find where the bug happen. But this one is just someone thar know Firefox04:47
natesorry I can't do more. but it's a lot of diagnostic work basically04:47
natejust gotta dive in04:47
natebut I can't really tell you what to look for specifically04:48
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nateyou just learn over time04:48
meson_rayif i start moving system directories around, can i use a hard or soft link to 'mount' the new location in the old location?04:48
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rodneykwhat is the best way to upgrade from dapper to edgy, just change the apt-sources?04:48
gangstervalvola: can u tell me clearly coz am a beginner in linux04:48
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natemeson: you could, but why would you need to do so? partitions fill up?04:48
diminthedamoskuda: u recommended ekiga, but it freezes when detecting my NAT04:48
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tennerberent: just start eg firefox, o i dont understand the problem04:48
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Ti_Uhlhow do i install a sun jdk on ubuntu Dapper server ? there doesn't seem to be anything in the apt repo's. I've added the universe and multiverse resources. Anyone ?04:49
valvolagangster, now i'm not on ubuntu so i can't see, but i think that if you open gnome-volume-properties u can find it easy how to deactivate automount04:49
Soekisancan anyone tell me how to change my own text color on xchat 2?04:49
nateTi_Uhl: sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.004:49
SkySurferTi_Uhl: I've added java support by getting the official package from sun. It's easy to install.04:49
oskudediminthedam: then please report a bug... do you have a nat ?04:49
meson_rayyeah, partition's full04:49
oloffhow do i configure mysql?04:49
Ti_Uhlnate : that isn't in my repo's ?04:50
gangstervalvola: can u tell me how to open that04:50
natemeson: yeah you can do it. it's nasty but it will work.04:50
meson_raynate:  i had to install on a 2.5 gig partition04:50
oloffhow do i configure mysql. set passwords etc.04:50
narmahello, I have just heard about the CD burning application brasero (http://perso.orange.fr/bonfire/). I see into a ubuntu doc that I can install it but 'apt-cache search brasero' give me nothing. Is there a way to installe it ?04:50
diminthedamoskude: it worked before. i have NAT on my dsl router04:50
berenttenner : let me explain .if u r in command prompt without X server started u have only a prompt and nothing else links/lynx are character mode www browsers04:50
meson_raynate:  plenty of space on other partitions, but it's better than installing two OSes on the same partition04:50
natemeson: my old solaris router had that problem too. I had to sym link across a new disk04:50
valvolagangster, from a shell or easily with "Alt + F2"04:50
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meson_raythey're both on the same disk, just different partitions04:50
berenttenner : i want something more quick and easy04:50
tennerberent: 1643     berent> tenner: yes i am in X04:50
nateTi_Uhl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/sun-java5-jdk04:51
WulongWould I get any better performance using resierFS and not Ext3 ?04:51
tennerberent: what are you babbling about your cli?04:51
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nateWu: depends on what you do. But I would suggest XFS over resier04:51
berenttenner : i know but i wanna know that also04:51
oskudediminthedam: well, it works here, so we need more info... hmm maybe your better off in ekiga chatroom (if theres one)04:51
tennerberent: just use a browser that doesn't depend on an X server04:51
narmanobody use brasero ?04:52
berenttenner : which one04:52
tennerberent: aka lynx, links04:52
berenttenner: anything else04:52
oskudediminthedam: are you using a "pure" ubuntu dapper ?04:52
diminthedamoskuda: i keep trying. not ekiga chat room yet unfortuately. also do u know much about vmware?04:52
tennerberent: the only two i use frequently04:52
diminthedamoskuda: yes04:52
Ti_Uhlnate : i've added the multiverse repository but i can't find it with apt ?04:52
gangsterberent: can u tell me how to do it fully04:53
meson_raynate:  should i use a soft or hard link for that?04:53
tennerberent: what do you expect from those text brosers? links, links" are the best i have faced yet04:53
oskudeoskude: (does your chat client have tab clompetion for nicks?;) sorry, never used vmware04:53
berenttenner : fully?04:53
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natemeson: I always used soft04:53
oskudediminthedam: (wrong nick:/) (does your chat client have tab clompetion for nicks?;) sorry, never used vmware04:53
tennerberent: fully what?04:53
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diminthedamoskude: i dont understand that q04:54
berenttenner : ok that was for previous answer of urs04:54
silent_screamwhere can i find commads for xchat??04:54
nateTi_Uhl: make sure you add multiverse for main and backports04:54
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berenttenner: tell me onething how do u switch between cli and X04:54
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oskudediminthedam: you could allso start ekiga from console, and see if you get any usefull error messages04:54
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silent_screamand generally how to write with colors etc...04:54
daWabbitsilent_scream, There are lists of slash commands for irc all over the web. Just google on it04:55
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natesilent_scream there are IRC specifics commands and then there are client commands04:55
tennerberent: did you read anything related to linux in general? a howto, a book? anything similar?04:55
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natewhich do you want?04:55
oskudediminthedam: and "ekiga --help" says "ekiga -d" would spit even more info...04:55
berenttenner : no04:55
berenttenner : i might have04:55
silent_screamnate, yes client commands04:55
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oskudediminthedam: and do you have software firewalls installed ?04:55
silent_screamnate, both04:56
jendaIs there a way to find out which app is using a port on my network?04:56
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natejenda: lsof -i04:56
tennerberent: and you expect people to totally introduce you into this world? dont you think this sounds strange?04:56
kzmIs amarok broken in dapper?04:56
natejenda: or netstat -a04:56
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tennerberent: you might have? yes you should have04:56
krautis there any german mirror of security.ubuntu.com?04:56
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meson_raynate:  sorry to be a bother, but is there any advantage to using hard over soft?04:56
jendanate: aha, cool :) pipe&grep and it's exactly what I need :04:56
jenda:)04:56
diminthedamoskuda: good idea. says none of the auth protocols supported and auth failed04:56
oskudemeson_ray: hard is mostly faster04:57
berenttenner: i think i need some quick answers -they will be refreshing04:57
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diminthedamoskuda: no soft firewalls04:57
berenttenner :my thoughts and knowledge04:57
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oskudediminthedam: then it seems ekiga cant auto detect your nat... (but it shouldnt freeze)04:57
SkySurfermoi tuoppi! cool name!04:58
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oskudediminthedam: i gotta go shopping, back in 30min or so04:58
theunruledHello everyone, how do I install Alltray? I don't see it in the apt04:58
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chamohello04:58
kzmAnd if amarok is broken, what is the recommended application for music playing ++?04:58
diminthedamoskuda: thanks. have fun04:58
daWabbitIn order to get Alltray to work, I had to build it for Dapper PPC04:58
theunruledkzm: ncmpc04:58
nateafk a bit04:58
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theunruledDapper PPC?04:59
daWabbitYup04:59
meson_raykzm:  rythmbox if it's not too many dependencies04:59
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ifrozenhali (eszem,de olvasom05:00
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berentanyone : whats the command to switch between cli and xterm05:03
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mergesth05:03
mergesthi05:03
meson_raynate:  thanks for the help05:03
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meson_rayoskude:  thanks as well05:04
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The_Jack_of_Clubholy cow 910 people05:05
brokendashso, I was attempting to recompile my kernel the other night, ran out of disk space, and now I can't boot except for "recovery mode".  Can anybody tell me what I should remove so that I can boot again?05:05
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kzmberent: xterm is a cli (command line interface)05:06
daWabbitbrokendash; CD to /tmp and see if the attempted build has put a lot of stuff in there05:06
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brokendashis it possible to browse the console in recovery mode without quitting irssi?05:07
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mergesti got a problem with my grub... i installed a windows system and now i tried to reinstall grub with a u-lifecd with "grub-install  /dev/hda! !! than came an error: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." whats wrong?05:07
berentkzm: i want to go to init 1 or init 205:07
berentand switch back to x05:07
jason^i'm trying to get crontab emails to go to another email address off of the machine but my mail server won't accept root@random.named.machine.com, it needs someuser@blah.com in the from field, is there a way to do that?05:07
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sureshothey all how to i deltree somthing that has made several directorys05:08
kzmberent: sudo init 1  (or perhaps 'telinit 1')?05:08
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kzmsureshot, rm -rf (caution advised)05:08
berentkzm:can i switch back05:08
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kzmI don't remember what the runlevel is, but try telinit 3 or something?  Or look at /etc/inittab05:09
sureshoti know kzm and thanks but it is in my home directory i think i am safe there am i05:09
sureshot??05:09
nate1 = single, 2 = regular05:09
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natedebian/ubuntu run levels are stupid05:09
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mergesti readed the howto in the internet but it cant help me :(05:09
kzmsureshot, you're not going to destroy anything that isn't yours, so go for it :-)05:10
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iratikI'm getting this on bootup (boot is taking 14 minutes, avg is 2 minutes , and avg load is 17.35) - is this error message related?05:10
sureshotkzm thanks man05:10
iratik* Starting kernel event manager05:10
iratik* Loading hardware drivers05:10
iratik[42949570.83000000]  shpchp: shpc_init: cannot reserve MMIO region05:10
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mergesthda is right and exist05:10
brokendashis there any way to use the console without quitting irssi?05:10
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brokendash^^ in recovery mode05:10
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iratikcan anyone make any sense of that error message?05:11
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natebroken: define "recovery mode"05:11
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brokendashnate: one of the boot options, as I cannot boot normally05:12
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mikeymikeholy moly05:13
mztrizyeah...05:13
mikeymikehi05:13
mikeymikeokay05:13
mztrizlot's of p eople in this room05:13
mztrizhaha05:13
nateso how does that relate to running irssi?05:13
mikeymikeyeah always05:13
mikeymikeokay ave post away i'm sure someone will help :)05:13
brokendashnate: I am running irssi atm because I can't figure out how to fix my problem, but its kinda annoying to have to quit irssi anytime I want to check/try a command05:13
nateyou at the console?05:14
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keTry with screen05:14
nateor remote?05:14
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nateeither use another virtual console or run screen05:14
mikeymikehey mztriz thats almost like your middle name05:14
mikeymikelol05:14
mikeymikeshriphani05:14
brokendashI am on teh console05:14
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mztrizOkay, I have a gateway w730-k8x laptop and I just installed 6.06 drapper on  it but it doesn't detect the internet. Not even with eth0105:14
natethen use another virtual (alt+F[1-6] )05:14
brokendashctrl-alt-f# doesn't work though, none of the other consoles display anything besides a blinking curso05:14
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natemztriz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops?highlight=%28laptop%2905:15
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mikeymikeawesome05:15
mikeymikehaha05:15
natebroken: then use screen05:15
mztrizthanks nate05:15
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mikeymikemztriz: i love this channel :)05:15
brokendashbut atm I am trying to find out what I need to do to fix it first05:15
nateI'm just here to get my own question answered, that's all :-D05:15
mikeymikeo nate its not in there05:16
mikeymikethe gateway05:16
mikeymikenot listed in that05:16
brokendashI didn't think my question was that hard :S05:16
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der0bbrokendash: quit irssi, enter screen -S irssi, then start irssi to get back to the consol, ctrl+a d, to get back to screen enter screen -x irssi05:16
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brokendashI was recompiling my kernel, ran out of disk space, but I don't know what I can safely remove so I can boot again05:16
natemikeymike: I make no promises. that site often has the info I need for laptops.05:16
sureshotkzm thanks that worked had to get rid of cedega it gets tiresome to click yes 10000 times trying to reinstall each file and the uninstaller did not work05:16
mikeymikenate: k :)05:17
natebroken: remove the kernel source?05:17
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brokendashnate: and how do I do that?  [I am not very proficient] 05:17
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kzmsureshot, unix is your friend. :-905:17
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yellowhey guys05:17
natedid you manually download the source or use apt?05:17
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yellowi have a question05:18
Tyle1Hey there everyone, im having a problem using a printer of mine with Ubuntu, im new to Ubuntu and would like to get my printer working.05:18
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brokendashnate: I think it was manual, but I don't recall specifically05:18
yellowhow do you display international characters in programs in ubuntu ?05:18
jendaHow do I set a static IP for my Ubuntu box in my router?05:18
natewell if you don't know what you did it's hard to tell you how to fix it05:18
brokendashwhere does it store all the newly-compiled data then?  how about that?05:19
natejenda: you doing port forwarding or something?05:19
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natebroken: depends if you did source or apt.05:19
natethat's why I asked05:19
brokendashnate: where can I look?05:19
WulongWhy the hell do ubuntu create a 'wifi0' device when eth1 is my wifi card?05:19
der0bjenda: that would be a function of your router, if your router can do that you'll have to read the docs for it05:19
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m|scr34ntjenda: You can set it in /etc/network/interfaces05:19
segfaultbrokendash, dpkg -l | grep linux-source05:19
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Tyle1Hey there everyone, im having a problem using a printer of mine with Ubuntu, im new to Ubuntu and would like to get my printer working.05:20
segfaultTyle1, what printer?05:20
natesegfault: forgot some wild cards in there.05:20
segfaultnate, i think that will get it05:20
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nateno, that will match the specific name. to which there is no package05:21
Tyle1HP All in One PSC 131505:21
segfaultnate, no dpkg -l will list all installed pkgs | grep linux-source will match any line with that text, which will exists if the kernel src is installed05:21
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brokendashwell, the dpkg command didn't return anything05:22
nateah I didn't see the grep. I usually just match a wildcard directly to dpkg05:22
natemy mind sees what it wants to see :-)05:23
Tyle1segfault, my printer is a all in one HP PSC 131505:23
segfaultnate, :) me too sometimes05:23
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mztriznate: that wiki article you sent me didn't have anything I needed in it05:23
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jendam|scr34nt: yes, that's where I'm now... but I don't what to change.05:23
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krzysiekhi05:24
krzysiekhi05:24
natemztriz: that's all I got05:24
segfaultTyle1, ull need to read ubuntu docs on setting up cups, u might also need to add hpoj pkg, the rest should already be installed i think05:24
jendam|scr34nt: I have the manpage open... but it's difficult to find what I need in there.05:24
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krzysiekhow i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)05:25
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brokendashso, is there nothing I can do to try and fix this?05:25
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m|scr34ntjenda: I set mine up to be static with the following:05:25
m|scr34ntiface eth0 inet static05:25
m|scr34ntaddress 192.168.75.5005:25
m|scr34ntnetmask 255.255.255.005:25
m|scr34ntgateway 192.168.75.105:25
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segfaultbrokendash, sounds like u dodnt install src from apt, so just remove the src dir05:25
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krzysiek?05:26
jendam|scr34nt: and the gateway part, is that where you put the router's default gateway?05:26
m|scr34ntjenda: That's where I put the routers gateway IP yeah.05:26
jendam|scr34nt: and I suppose you deleted something like "auto eth005:26
jendaiface eth0 inet dhcp"05:26
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The_Jack_of_Cluba gateway connects to the next router inline or the modem05:27
m|scr34ntjenda: Yeah, comment out the auto eth0 and change the dhcp to static05:27
krzysiekhow i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)05:27
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brokendashsegfault: /src is in /usr ?05:27
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jendam|scr34nt: will do... thx05:27
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segfaultbrokendash, u couls have put the src anywhere, but conventially it would be /usr/src05:28
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segfaultbrokendash, couls=could05:28
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thread`so where is the beryl package? I added the repos, but no beryl: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main aiglx05:28
thread`deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ dapper main aiglx05:28
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thread`is it available for amd64 ?05:28
brokendashk, it has two folder in it, linux and linux 2.6.something05:28
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brokendashI think the "linux" one is not a folder, but a symlink perhaps?05:29
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jendam|scr34nt: now, how do the changes come into effect... restarting eth0?05:29
jendaomg... it already did :)05:29
m|scr34ntjenda: Yeah, restart your networking, or reboot05:30
krzysiekhow i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)05:30
mztrizI have a gateway laptop with networking problems, can someone help me?05:30
iter?? ask05:30
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gangsterhi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?05:30
mikeymikeiter: she's asking how to get networking working on it05:30
mikeymikenothing works05:30
mikeymikewifi or eth005:30
iterifconfig -a05:30
iterwhat do you see05:30
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Stormx2I need to mount a NTFS partition via the dapper live CD. How?05:31
MrKeunerhi, which utility was it that was checking if the md5sums of binaries proves the md5sums distributed by ubuntu?05:31
itermztriz: what do you see with ifconfig -a05:31
mikeymikeiter: she's waiting for the laptop to arrive :)05:31
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mikeymikeiter: she doesn't have the laptop yet05:31
Dimensionsoskude:  i have /var/www folder and there i have .php files ... i did chown of them to my user name but still when i open them with http://localhost/file.php it opens dialogue box asking open with ... and then opens many blank pages ... my host name is BILAL does it has any thing to do with it ?05:32
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mztriziter: it's my friends laptop, she'll be here soon though.05:32
iterDimensions: apache1 or 205:32
mikeymikeiter: do you want her to paste that stuff when she gets it?05:32
brokendashpbbth, how do I delete a folder? :X05:32
jendam|scr34nt: could you hint me in on how to restart eth0 through CLI?05:32
Dimensionsiter:  i downloaded sudo apt-get apache2 but when browser opens it has written apache 1.3 ...05:32
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krzysiekhow i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)05:33
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iterDimensions: interesting. that's another problem05:33
krzysiekhow i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)05:33
krzysiekhow i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)05:33
krzysiekhow i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)05:33
krzysiekhow i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)05:33
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mikeymikeuh oh.05:33
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iterDimensions: what you're looking for is DirectoryIndex in apache2.conf05:33
iteror in httpd.conf if an older version of apache05:33
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brokendashhow do I delete a folder? :X05:33
nateWhy do people that are so urgent to get their question answered, ask with the least understandable questions?05:33
itermake sure that it has index.php on that line05:33
gangsterhi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?05:33
natebrokendash: rmdir05:34
brokendashooo05:34
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m|scr34ntjenda: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:34
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Dimensionswhen i am restarting apache with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it says fail .. Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName and ....  could not bind to address 127.0.0.1:8005:34
Dimensionsno listening sockets available, shutting down05:34
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brokendashcan I force it to remove it even if its not empty?05:34
iterDimensions: it's cause you're alreading running apache on port 8005:34
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mikeymikebrokendash: -f = force05:34
mikeymikelol05:34
iterwhich is why it can't bind05:34
Dimensionsso what should i do ?05:35
iterdo 'ps aux | grep http'05:35
pike_brokendash: if it contains files rm -fr directory   r is recursive f is force05:35
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Dimensionshow i am going to open my .php file05:35
iterDimensions: did you read what I wrote?05:35
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iteredit apache2.conf05:35
iterint /etc/apache205:35
Dimensionsyeah ...05:35
iteradd index.php to the DirectoyIndex line05:35
gangsterhi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?05:35
highnekoWhat's the resize window keybloard shortcut?05:35
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iterDimensions: now kill apache 1.3 with apachectl stop05:36
Dimensionsiter:  i got this reply ... filter   18822  0.0  0.1   2888   820 pts/0    S+   16:35   0:00 grep http05:36
brokendashexcellent, now I am only at 85% used space, see you on the other side05:36
iterstart apache2 with apache2ctl start05:36
KenSentMeDoes anyone use the nautilus option to connect to an ftp server?05:36
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iterDimensions: httpd is not running then05:36
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iterthat error you get about not being able to determing the FQDN you can ignore05:37
pike_KenSentMe: you can just type ftp://username@servername in naut05:38
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KenSentMepike_: do you use nautilus to connect to an ftp server, and can you see the file permissions?05:38
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pike_KenSentMe: when people ask me about ftp i recommend nautilus but i use just the cli myself im not too familiar with it05:39
iterlftp >> *05:39
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KenSentMepike_: could you try it for me? The permissions are not shown here and i want to make sure it's not a problem on my side05:39
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KenSentMepike_: or with my ftp server05:40
davidwinterhi all. I'd like to install Ubuntu on my MacBook in a dual boot situation.05:40
jozzephhello05:40
zircxblah, can someone point me in the right direction of the latest xgl/compiz howto install site..05:40
davidwinterI did try Dapper before, but run into problems with grub during the install05:40
zircxI've been through 150 of the damn things and neither of them worked to date..05:41
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jozzephi have a  b i g   problem with ubuntu and java05:41
davidwinterso I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck with Edgy beta + MacBook?05:41
zircxusing Dapper05:41
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pike_KenSentMe: you can pm me your server05:41
jozzephi reinstalled ubuntu about 30 times05:41
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KenSentMepike_: one moment then05:41
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jozzephand i tried 3 different javas05:41
thanatonauteHi. I finally got my wireless usb card to work, but I had to type in bunch of commands.05:41
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zircxconfigured/installed my nvidia drivers.. i have xgl working, but not compiz, or beryl as it is05:42
thanatonauteHow can I automate this using a script? Where can I put the script?05:42
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jozzephso  p l e a s e   can somebody help me with java?05:42
davidwinterzircx: what I did once I had nvidia drivers working was to follow this for XGL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl05:42
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davidwinterzircx: then I just followed this straight after: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz?highlight=%28compiz%2905:42
zircxi swear i'm frustrated as hell lol05:42
iterjozzeph: what's the problem05:42
jozzephso i just reinstalled ubuntu and sun java05:42
davidwinterI followed both of those one after the other and had no troubles05:43
zircxokies, will it require me uninstalling what I already have..05:43
jozzephand java worked!05:43
zircxokies, I'll give that ago05:43
jozzephunbtil i rebooted05:43
davidwinterzircx: I'm not sure - I guess it's the best way to make sure it'll work05:43
segfaultzircx, just follow the guides on the ubuntu site to get xgl then compiz/cgwd it worked fine for me05:43
jozzephi dont upgrade until i solve my java problem05:43
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Lard-O-Ladthanatonaute: you could make a bash script, running it as a cron or add it in your .bashrc05:43
davidwinterany MacBook users here?05:43
jozzephhello05:44
psusiwhere does debconf store settings and how can I manually change them?05:44
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zircxberyl has taken over compiz is that correct? or replaced it?05:44
jozzephcan somebody help me pls with my java?05:44
segfaultzircx, im still using compiz here with much success05:44
zircxjozzeph: whats the problem with your java?05:44
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jozzephzircx i tried it 30 time reinstalling ubuntu05:45
Dimensionsiter sorry but i didn't get the point ... adding index.php to Directoryindex line ... when i goto /etc/apache2 which is a directory then ?05:45
zircxand what java are you talking about?05:45
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jozzephnow i use java sun...05:45
jozzephit worked 1 time05:45
zircx30 time reinstall ubuntu?05:45
jozzephyes05:45
Lard-O-Ladjozzeph: do you have java or gij (default java package in ubuntu)?05:45
iterDimensions: if you installed php with apt-get it's probably been added05:45
zircxwhy the hell would you want to reinstall it 30 times?05:45
jozzephgij05:45
iterDimensions: just need to stop apache and start apache205:45
zircxjozzeph: what exactly are you trying to do?05:46
jozzephi tried 3 types of java05:46
highnekoWhat's the resize window keyboard shortcut? Kinda like how alt is for moving windows.05:46
iterDimensions: check to see if you have apache installed with 'dpkg -l | grep apache'05:46
oskudeDimensions: looking for the last post for me, you need to install/activate the apache php module for apache to know what to do with .php files05:46
jozzephcan i use signed aplets with sun java?05:47
jozzephsometimes java works with unsigned applet05:47
Lard-O-Ladjozzeph: so you can install Sun Java?05:47
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jozzephyes sure lard05:47
Lard-O-Ladi dont understand what the problem is :)05:47
jozzephit doesnt work05:47
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Tokenbadcould a person install ubuntu to 2 different drives to kinda dual boot ubuntu?05:48
xavdoes anyone else have problem acceding to this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270882 ?05:48
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Dimensionsier when i do dpkg -l l apache it shows me two of apache05:48
oskudeTokenbad: yes05:48
iterjozzeph: can you run 'java -version' from a terminal05:48
Dimensionsone is apache 1.3 and other is apache 205:48
jozzephmy java applet only works the first time after installing java05:48
iterDimensions: right, because you have them both installed05:48
Dimensionsiter:  i have two folders in /etc one is apache and other is apache205:48
iterDimensions: remove apache 1.305:48
zircxare you wanting the java plugin or ? the jdk2 development platform?05:48
jozzephafter reboot it wont work05:48
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Dimensionsis it okay if i just rm apache folder ?05:48
jozzephthe java plugin05:49
xavoh no05:49
iterDimensions: use apt-get remove apache05:49
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Tokenbadoskude, ok thanks...will try that05:49
xavit seems it randomly happen on every thread05:49
xavubuntu forums are dead05:49
zircxsynaptic has the java plugin 1.5 i believe05:49
jozzephi installed java now with easy ubuntu05:49
Lard-O-Ladzirc: he can install it, but it wont run his applet05:49
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iterjozzeph: can you run 'java -version' from the command line05:50
zircxi see..05:50
jozzephon kubuntu it was the same way05:50
Dimensionsiter:  i have removed it ... now ?05:50
jozzephyes iter05:50
iterDimensions: run apache2ctl start05:50
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iterDimensions: you should see the error about the FQDN and 127.0.0.105:50
jozzephmaybe i should change my resolution for java aplet05:50
jozzephscreen resolution05:50
iterbut not the one about not being able to bind05:50
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iterjozzeph: if you've tried all these java installs, and the only thing they have in common is your applet ....05:51
jozzephsometimes java works when i install mozilla in stead of mozilla firefox05:51
jozzephmy applet is the 'runescape' game05:51
boinkyou mean seamonkey?05:51
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jozzephsometimes it wqorks with unsigned applet05:52
jozzephmy java randomly works05:52
Dimensionsiter:  it says httpd (pid19317 ) pid already running  and also the same as Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName05:52
jozzephsometimes it does sometimes it doesnt05:52
iterDimensions: do kill -9 1931705:52
iterDimensions: then restart ir05:52
iterit*05:52
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oskudeDimensions: you can ignore that warning05:53
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imperfect-Howdy!05:53
imperfect-;)05:53
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imperfect-Anyone know what tons of dirtied inode messages followed by system lockups means if fsck reports no problems?05:53
MissLadyanyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.05:53
iterDimensions: but yeah it should be running, check to make sure you're not still getting the 1.3 error message05:53
jozzephcan somebody explain why java sometimes works and sometimes not?05:53
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unfknblvbljava was modelled on a female05:54
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iterjozzeph: how much ram do you have05:54
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bouncyplease can someone offer me a little assistance with vsftp...?05:54
jozzephahaha05:54
unfknblvblthat explains it all05:54
jozzephenough ram05:54
zircxerm java works fine05:54
jozzeph524 or so05:54
iterIf you have over 2GB RAM and are running Sun Java, you may be suffering from a known bug with Java's memory allocation. Please contact RuneScape Technical Support05:54
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pike_bouncy: ?05:54
zircxI don't understand why you're having problems, if you're installing the correct java plugin you should be fine ...05:54
oskudejozzeph: cause its all 0 or 1, yes or no, true or false, works or doesnt ;P05:54
bouncymm05:54
jozzephhmm05:55
bouncyit always gives me the error 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root05:55
jozzephi could try runescape technical support05:55
zircxI have runescape running05:55
Gilnimhi guys: i need a how-to for installing flash on a 64bit ubuntu with firefoy/opera/modzilla05:55
Dimensionsoskude:  and iter when i open any php file using http://localhost/test.php it opens a dialogue box open with and then opens dozen blank pages ...05:55
jozzephand it always works zirk?05:55
bouncyor "child died"05:55
Gilnim!flash05:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:55
zircxyes  no problems ..05:56
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jozzephso what browser do u use zircx?05:56
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zircxstandard firefox05:56
oskudeDimensions: which apache version is runing, 1.3 or 2 ?05:56
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jozzephand what java?05:56
davidwhow's this udev thing work with network devices?05:56
iterDimensions: did you verify that line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?05:56
zircxi installed 1.4.2 and 1.5.0 i believe it is05:56
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Dimensionsoskude:  i have removed 1.3 but the page i open doesn't say any thing ...05:56
jozzephis that sun java?05:57
oskudeDimensions: and which php version, 4 or 5 ?05:57
zircxyes absolutely05:57
bouncypike_: do you have experience with vsftpd?05:57
Dimensionsoskude:  im having php505:57
jozzephwhat screen resolution do u use zircx?05:57
zircxeither that or someone decided to change runescape to flash and I've just realised my flash works05:57
zircxlol05:57
zircx1280x102405:57
ardchoilleI plugged in (USB) a Zire 72. How do I find out which /dev/sd<whatever> it is so I can mount it? mount doesn't show it and dmesg doesn't show a /dev/?05:57
oskudeDimensions: then you need this package too, "libapache2-mod-php5" is it installed ?05:57
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zircxDepth 2405:57
pike_bouncy: its what i use in ubuntu when i need ftp but not too much05:57
jozzephok i try that again coz then it worked with me too05:57
pike_bouncy: you have write enabled?05:58
bouncypike_: please have you encountered a similar solution?05:58
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bouncypike_: write isn't enabled in the config05:58
oskudeDimensions: but i assume this should tell that all https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP05:58
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zircxhas anyone had any success with beryl and xgl? I know that people use compiz and xgl..05:58
pike_bouncy: well ive never allowed anonymous05:58
bouncyok how about local login05:59
bouncythat would be ok, then i can work on the anonymous later05:59
zircxapparently beryl is supposedly taken over compiz-manager05:59
oskudezircx: no, i havent seen this ;P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl05:59
bouncyi set: local_enable=YES05:59
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mztriziter: I got the laptop and did ifconfig -a05:59
nearfarno ghostview in ubuntu?05:59
pike_bouncy: yeah.  its not secure in any way so i only turn it on when someone requests and then back off.  i use sftp normally05:59
knewtso, i got around it this time, but is there actually any way to tell the ubuntu expert server installer to use specified block devices for the install, instead of going through the partitioner?05:59
zircxi get it going and then it wigs out on me lol06:00
itermztriz: and ?06:00
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mztrizi got link encap: ethernet hwaddr 00:03:25:35:88:0406:00
boinkapt-cache search ghostview06:00
itermztriz: pastebin the whole thing06:00
Gilnimhi guys: i need a how-to for installing flash on a 64bit ubuntu with firefox06:00
mztrizi can't paste it, but i'm typing06:00
nearfarboink: 'apt-get install ghostview' failed06:00
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itermztriz: ok what's at the start of that line06:00
itermztriz: the one with link encap:06:00
boinkthat's why you should do an apt-cache search ghostview06:00
mztrizbraodcast multicast mtu:1500 Metric:106:01
itermztriz: should be like eth0 or ath006:01
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mztrizohh06:01
nearfarboink: so, gs-gpl?06:01
mztrizyeah that one was06:01
mztrizeth006:01
TheGateKeeperGilnim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava06:01
boinkif that's what you want, try it06:01
Gilnimthanks06:01
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oskudeknewt: if you want to go hardcore, google for "debootstrap" (thats what the installer uses, afaik)06:01
nearfarboink: btw, I'm not in gnome. (ubuntu-server + basic X11)06:01
itermztriz: ok, and you're supposed to get a IP by DHCP or is it static06:01
mztrizthere is eth0, eth1, lo,  and sit006:01
itermztriz: lo and sit0 you can ignore for now06:02
nearfarboink: but I'm looking for a 'viewer'06:02
bouncypike_:  it doesn't work though06:02
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itermztriz: eth0 and eth1 are your network cards06:02
ardchoilleWhat's up with the forums? I keep getting "Fatal error"06:02
bouncypike_: i try to login using a user and get...#06:02
mztriziter: it's suppose to be DHCP06:02
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boinkI don't know if a viewer does exist if you're not using X06:02
pike_bouncy: ill paste my very basic almost default config file one sec06:02
itermztriz: so the network that's plugged in right now has a working dhcp server ?06:02
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nearfarboink: I *am* using X, but just not gnome or kde.06:02
mztrizum, it's not plugged in right now, but I can do that. (although it doesn't work)06:03
bouncypike_: 500 OOPS child died06:03
bouncyhi thanks06:03
nearfarotherwise, I could be using evince or kghostview06:03
boinkok .. then try any of those options under apt-cache search06:03
zircxubuntu configures etho cards as dhcp by default from a client side as opposed to static I've noticed06:03
itermztriz: plug it in06:03
mztrizok brb.06:03
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mikeymikemztriz: there's plugs there?06:03
itermztriz: then run dhclient and see what happens06:03
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mikeymikeiter: i think she's having hardware issues06:03
iterif you can see eth0 and eth1 probably not06:03
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nearfarboink: damn! I missed this package with two-character name -- gv06:03
itermight be tho06:04
mikeymikeiter: ah okay06:04
boinkgv - PostScript and PDF viewer for X <= would that do?06:04
nearfar:)06:04
mikeymikeiter: if its not hardware issues then its simple config06:04
boinkheh .. good luck, let's see if it does what you want06:04
boinkbefore installing, check with apt-cache first06:04
mikeymikeiter: she's on campus @ a university06:04
mikeymikewifi works for her in windows on her own laptop06:04
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mikeymikeso its not a connectivity thing unless dapper is silly from the box06:04
bouncypike_: where can i have a look at your config?06:04
mikeymikeit should accept dhcp06:04
mikeymikeright?06:05
KevinBooksHello all, I am testing a solution for embedded linux and it seems to me it is a _very_ stripped down version of ubuntu. It currently expects a dhcp server, but I want to use a static ip. I've set that up, but when I went to add the dns server to /etc/resolv.conf, it wasn't there! So, where can I add DNS servers?06:05
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narmahello, I have installe apache, mysql, php and phpmyadmin but I can't display a simple file /var/www/index.php firefox want to download it when I go to localhost/index.php06:05
Dimensionsiter:  in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf index.php is already there ...06:05
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boinkyou add dns stuff in /etc/resolv.conf06:05
narmahow can I do ?06:05
imperfect-Hey06:05
imperfect-Anyone here good w/ Lm sensors?06:05
Dimensionsoskude:  i have already installed libapache2-mod-php506:05
KevinBooksboink: ok, I thought since it didn't exist, it might use something else06:05
imperfect-anyoe know about like06:05
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pike_bouncy: it is not a good idea to run like this all the time http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25665/06:06
imperfect-what the sensor PWN sensor is?06:06
Dimensionsas i had followed the link u gave me ...06:06
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oskudeDimensions: do you have "/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf" file ?06:07
KevinBooksboink: yeah, that worked, I guess I shoulda just tried it...06:07
nearfarthanks! works06:07
KevinBooksboink: thanks!06:07
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oskudeDimensions: and as the document says "You may also need to actually enable it, by doing sudo a2enmod php5 followed by sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" does that work ?06:08
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Dimensionsoskude: nah i am missing that conf file ...06:08
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mztrizok i'm back06:09
mikeymikefinally.06:09
mikeymike:p06:09
Dimensionsoskude: i got this message ...  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName06:09
bouncypike_:  this is almost identical to mine06:10
oskudeDimensions: try reinstalling "libapache2-mod-php5", cause that file delivers that config file06:10
bouncypike_: but it won't work06:10
mztriziter: what do you want me to do ?06:10
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dalfzi have serious crash-problems with openoffice spreadsheet, it crashes often when i change cell contents. anyone else having problems?06:10
SGLHowdy06:10
oskudeDimensions: did you read that howto i gave ? it says "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName - then edit sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and add ServerName localhost at the end of the file"06:10
bouncypike_: i use your config, for example, restart vsftpd, try to connect and it tells me 500 OOPS Child Died06:10
SGLHow do I become a sudo-er on my computer???06:10
knewtoskude: yeah, that's great if you have something already installed on the box. not if you're starting from scratch though06:10
pooruhey, i was able to map my secondary HD (hdb1) to /media/windows. yet under computer "Local Slave" still doesn't work06:11
xUBUNTUxanyone uses kiba-dock? i can't change the most of its properties06:11
pike_bouncy: hmm06:11
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hsunda3hello! does anyone know of a good symbolic math tool in the Ubuntu repos?06:11
oskudeknewt: knoppix ? (or other "live" distro)06:11
pooruit says that now hdb1 is mapped to /media/windows. is there a way to redirect this?06:12
oskudeknewt: but i didnt actually understand what you really want...06:12
Dimensionsoskude:  im sorry i dont follow that line what would be my ServerName06:13
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SGLHow do I gain sudo rights??06:13
SGLI have the password06:13
highnekoAnyone know how to stop join quit part messages in xchat-gnome?06:13
hsunda3SGL: execute sudo -i on the command line06:13
SGLhsunda3: nothing happens06:13
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SGLhsunda3: I just get my $ back06:13
oskudeDimensions: read the help page... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-6ce180906ddbc141ef4b213f82465515a8ad303106:14
hsunda3highneko: I have been trying to find that for a long time ... not very successful. Somebody has written a plugin for it though .. (which I use on my Windows XChat)06:14
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hsunda3SGL: now that's surprising ... what happens if you execute 'su -'06:14
bouncypike_:  Ha!06:14
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bouncypike_: I just tried it in edgy and it works perfectly06:14
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bouncypike_: are you using dapper or edgy?06:14
pike_bouncy: dapper06:14
bouncypike_: me too06:15
SGLhsunda3: authentication failure06:15
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Llewxamcan anyone please help me fix my xserver problem? i got this running somehow but if i shudown or restart i get that black screen again.06:15
pike_bouncy: how about anon_root=/home/ftp/    ?06:15
bouncypike_: but for some reason the vsftpd is borked06:15
hsunda3SGL: is that the error you get? 'authentication failure' ?06:15
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bouncypike_: already tried that06:15
oskudeDimensions: it says "...and add ServerName localhost at the end of the file" so you add that line "ServerName localhost" ...06:15
SGLhsunda3: yeah...06:15
Dimensionsummm ...06:15
pike_bouncy: well its an excuse to upgrade i guess :)06:15
hsunda3SGL what happens if you try 'su - root'? Same error?06:15
SGLhsunda3: It says "Authentication failure" "Sorry"06:15
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bouncywell i won't06:15
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oskudeDimensions: as you can see it has another font as the "normal" text on that webpage...06:15
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mikeymikehow do you find your local ip06:16
SGLyes06:16
hsunda3mikeymike: using ifconfig output06:16
SGLhsunda3: same error06:16
mikeymikethank you06:16
bouncyi've spent 5 months getting dapper the way i want it and I appreciate the extended support, I want to stick with dapper for a couple of years.06:16
Dimensionsyeah sorry oskude abt not getting the point ...06:16
bouncyi did install edgy in vmware just to check it out though ;)06:16
mikeymikehsunda3: what is en006:16
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hsunda3SGL: then there is one thing only I can think of. Reboot, and in Grub boot menu, choose the rescue mode. You will be logged in using a root prompt. Change the password using the passwd command, and check to see if you are in the sudoers file (though not necessary)06:16
oskudeDimensions: then ask again06:17
hsunda3mikeymike: hang on .. just a second06:17
SGLwhat is the sudoers file???06:17
mikeymikehsunda3: im on a mac though it might be different..06:17
Llewxamcan anyone please help me fix my xserver problem? i got this running somehow but if i shudown or restart i get that black screen again.06:17
hsunda3mikeymike: oh. Ubuntu on a mac?06:17
mikeymikei have adaptors like lo0 and gif0 and stf0 and en0 and en106:17
mikeymikehsunda3: no os x06:17
SGLhsunda3: I did the following: while logged in as this user, I deleted this user and recreated this user. Now I have this problem06:17
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mikeymikehsunda3: im trying to help mztriz06:17
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hsunda3mikeymike: eh? that's most interesting. I haven't seen adaptors like that :)06:18
mikeymikeunder en0 my local ip shows up06:18
mikeymikehsunda3: that might be why06:18
hsunda3SGL: sudoers file is the listing of who can become root on the machine using their own password06:18
mikeymikeim guessing en0 is my eth006:18
mikeymikeon the mac06:18
mikeymikearchaic bsd06:18
hsunda3mikeymike: I am guessing so too... sorry havent used macs much .. atleast not macs on the command line06:18
SGLhsunda3: where do I find it?06:18
mikeymike:[06:18
Dimensionsoskude:  and iter thanks alot buddies ... it worked .... now thank you so muchhhhhhhhhhhh.........06:18
oskudeLlewxam: the file "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" contains xservers error messages, you could look there06:18
mikeymikehsunda3: okay06:18
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oskudeDimensions: and what was the solution/problem ?06:18
bouncyhey i just solved it06:19
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pike_bouncy: permissions problem?06:19
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sholdenHas anyone had any luck using compiz/beryl with MergedFB?  I'm going through dual screen withdrawal, but don't want to loose my compiz perks :)06:19
bouncypike_:  I purged vsftpd, deleted all remaining files and directories, and deleted the ftp user06:20
SGLhsunda3: where do I find it?06:20
pike_ah06:20
bouncyi think the user FTP was causing the problem06:20
Dimensionsoskude:  ... i couldn't load php page ... from the server ... it was problem and i guess reason was it couldn't read the server name which was localhost ...06:20
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pricechildhi all, i want to learn how to rebuild lrm, lrmc & nvidia-glx with the latest nvidia beta drivers on edgy06:20
bouncybecause that user was created when I install proftpd06:20
pricechildcould anyone help?06:20
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bouncyi'm so happy!06:20
bouncyyay!06:20
bouncyHAPPY HUG DAY!06:20
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piratepenguinwhat will it take to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, when it's released?06:20
oskudeDimensions: hmm, i still get that _warning_ and yet it works...06:20
xavlol06:21
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Llewxami see no errors in the log except for one.06:21
iterok sorry06:21
knewtoskude: the volumes ("partitions") i want to install to are device-mapper block devices. the partition editor doesn't have a clue about them. i'd like to be able to tell the installer: "Ok, /dev/.... should be used as /, /dev/.... should be used as /boot, etc etc"06:21
xavsomeone managed to post on ubuntu forums that ubuntu forums didn't work06:21
iterboss was in06:21
piratepenguin!upgrade06:21
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:21
SGLWhere can I find the sudoers file??06:21
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SGL!help06:21
Gottiwhen is edgy scheduled for its official release?06:21
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:21
Llewxamand it's a missing font. other than that nothing.06:21
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pike_SGL: /etc/sudoers06:21
pricechildGotti: 26h06:21
dang`r`ushi06:21
SGLahh ok06:22
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Gotticool...thanks.06:22
xavwhy is everyone asking this question06:22
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dang`r`uscheckinstall seems to be broken, it always complains about lacking permissions to write e.g. to /usr/bin06:22
oskudeknewt: sorry, never worked with lvm... so i have just used /dev/hda1 and so on...06:22
itermztriz: still there?06:22
itermztriz: run dhclient06:22
xavwho cares when edgy is released.. man, this is so boring06:22
dang`r`usbut isn't the point of checkinstall that it runs in a fakeroot environment where it can write everywhere?06:22
xavI wish there wasn't any release date06:22
pricechildit wil be changed06:22
Tokenbadis there a partition program besides gparted?  I tried it and let it sit for almost 30 mins and it never finished trying to partition the drive06:22
oskudeTokenbad: i use mostly "cfdisk"06:23
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pike_Tokenbad: you want to just erase or create new partitions or resize existing?06:23
iterTokenbad: I second cfdisk06:23
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mikeymikesomeone tell me if this network adaptor is working properly by this ifconfig output Eth0   Link ecnap:Ethernet Hwaddr 00:03)25:8B:04 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:106:23
mikeymikeRX Packets:0 erros:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:006:24
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mikeymikeTXpackets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0b) TX bytes 0(0.0b) Interrupt:5006:24
itermikeymike: no06:24
iternot UP06:24
mikeymikeiter: woops06:24
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mikeymikeiter: you're back06:24
iteryeah had to discuss strategery with the boss there for a sec06:24
mikeymikeiter: ah okay06:24
mikeymikeso she did the ifconfig -a06:24
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mikeymikethats her output06:24
mikeymikethe eth0 and eth106:24
iterright it's not up06:24
mikeymikedont have any ip's06:24
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itershould say UP BROADCAST etc etc06:24
mikeymikeyea06:25
iterbut run dhclient06:25
itersee where that gets you06:25
oskudemikeymike: dont see any inet addr there... and please dont paste here :)06:25
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mikeymikeoskude: i didnt think so06:25
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mikeymikeiter: dhclient comes with dapper?06:25
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dang`r`usit does06:25
mikeymikeokay06:25
iterwell if you want to get an IP you better have dhclient ;p06:25
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mikeymikeiter: haha okay06:26
mikeymikeiter: its not on my mac :)06:26
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scheurihi all06:26
pricechildcan anyone here help me with rebuilding lrm an nvidia-glx/06:26
mikeymike/bin/sh: line 1: dhclient: command not found06:26
mikeymike:)06:26
iteris that on her machine?06:27
mikeymikeiter: negatory06:27
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scheurianyone an idea why all of a sudden an upgrade is asking me for "yes" or "no" because it thinks it comes from a untrusty source?06:27
mikeymikeiter: she said its bound to 172.23.36.6006:27
iterifconfig -a to make sure06:27
iterthen ping google.com06:27
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mikeymikeiter: okay06:27
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oskudescheuri: have you manually added repos ?06:28
Justm3hey] 06:28
Justm3ive got the ubuntu cd06:28
Justm3today06:28
mikeymikeiter: she has an ip now:)06:28
mikeymikeiter: pinging in progress06:28
Justm3and want to ask qs about the partitioning system06:28
oskudemikeymike: apt-file search show that dhclient is in "dhcp-client" package06:28
mikeymikeiter: connected06:28
scheurioskude: no, happend on a freshly installed ubuntu as well as on my machine...no other repos than those from ubuntu (incl. backports) and kubutu.org06:28
itermikeymike: ok she's set06:29
mikeymikeoskude: awesome06:29
mikeymikeoskude: im on os x man06:29
itermikeymike: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces06:29
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itermikeymike: make sure it's correct06:29
mikeymikeiter: how can she config it to wokr06:29
mikeymikeiter: so that her friend doesn't have to run dhclient06:29
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itermikeymike: should say something like auto eth006:29
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mikeymikeiter: okay06:29
itermikeymike: iface eth0 inet dhcp06:29
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oskudescheuri: hmm, and sure theres no "3rd" party repos ? (as backport is not on as default) can you pastebin your sources.list ?06:30
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scheurioskude: yep...gimme a sec06:30
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Khamaelhttp://tux.crystalxp.net/06:30
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xenoNfluX!sources06:30
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:30
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gangerlihi all06:31
Justm3 ive got the ubuntu cds just today and wanna install it but when i reach the partitioning step (step 5) i am afraid to make any move as i dunno if something i do will/won't delete my files06:31
gangerlisomebody help me please06:31
scheurioskude: still...on a freshly installed machine (alternate 6.06.1 CD) there should not be anything like this...06:31
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iterJustm3: you can easily lose data while partitioning if you're not very careful06:31
oskudescheuri: if you have backports on, its not "fresh"!06:31
Justm3plz tell me06:31
iterJustm3: be sure you know what you're removing etc06:31
knewtoskude: is there a recommended place to ask about something like this, since there doesn't seem to ever be anyone about here who knows about the installer stuff06:31
iterJustm3: you have one hard disk?06:31
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TheGateKeeperJustm3: have you got windows already installed on this drive?06:32
Justm3i have nothing on sda7 and want to put unbuntu in that partition06:32
Justm3yes06:32
scheurioskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25668/06:32
iterJustm3: just install to sda706:32
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gangerlihow do I make sure I have BUP enabled before I start burning CDs?06:32
iterJustm3: install grub to mbr06:32
scheurioskude: on the freshly installed machine I have NOT made ANY thing to the sources.list06:32
mikeymikeiter: so /etc/network/interfaces <<--- edit that to say auto eth006:32
oskudeknewt: hmm, mailing list, forum, google ?06:32
mikeymikeiter: after that it will work without having to run dhclient?06:32
itermikeymike: it should say some other stuff too06:32
mikeymikeiter: right06:33
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Justm3iter: but when i reach the 2nd phase on step5, it gives me options of something like /media/sda5, sda6, sda7, sda1 what abt that06:33
itermikeymike: auto eth0 just means try to setup eth006:33
TheGateKeeperJustm3: choose manual patitioning and tell it to use sda706:33
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itermikeymike: not automatically get an ip06:33
oskudescheuri: ok, that is not fresh... which repo gives the errors ?06:33
xamoxhow do I enabled mod rewrite for apache2?06:33
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Justm3iter: how do i choose to install on sda7?06:33
itermikeymike: under auto eth0 it should say iface eth0 inet dhcp06:33
iteriirc06:33
iterJustm3: click on it?06:33
mikeymikeiter: so what exactly was her problem then? dhclient fixed it apparently.....06:33
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itermikeymike: might not have that auto eth0 line in /etc/network/interfaces06:34
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gangerlisomebody please :)06:34
iterthat would do it06:34
pike_Justm3: you could maybe just select it and change the type or whatever to / and tell it to format ext3 or reiser or whatever06:34
Zeralnet.06:34
mikeymikeiter: so if she adds that it should work then06:34
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itermikeymike: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10576406:35
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Justm3pike_: so if i just choose sda7 as "/" root, then will my prob be solved?? and should i make all other partitions "/media/sda#" ??06:35
mikeymikeiter: thanks06:35
hoss_bertI managed to mess up my grub installation (described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270736). I'd really appreciated if anyone could help06:36
itermikeymike: basically it just needs two lines for eth006:36
scheurioskude: on the freshly installed machine (with NO backports) the ch.archive.ubuntu.com and security06:36
itermikeymike: auto eth006:36
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itermikeymike: and iface eth0 inet dhcp06:36
Tokenbadoskude I can't seem to get it to read the drive06:36
jozzephhello06:36
itermikeymike: it also needs lines for lo of course06:36
oskudescheuri: hmm, maybe wait a little, or try another mirror...06:36
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scheurioskude: sorry...the paste is indeed my machine and not the freshly installed one...06:36
mikeymikeiter: okay06:36
jozzephi still have a problem06:36
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pike_Justm3: you wont need anything else but swap everything will be created under / you have a swap partition already? you could just make a swapfile under / but thats more involved..06:36
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jozzephevery 4th time i start runescape it won't work06:37
scheuriwell then06:37
scheurithansk06:37
scheurithansk06:37
twbIs 6.10b known to (not) work under Qemu (with kQemu loaded)?06:37
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oskudescheuri: btw, i few times had "timing" problems with de mirror, and now using at, i havent had problems since :)06:37
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Justm3pike_: how do i setup a swap partition (do i need to)?06:37
jozzephmy java applet works about 3 of 4 times and 1 time it does not work06:37
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oskudeTokenbad: hmm, forgot your problem, sorry :(06:38
jozzephwhy does my java does not work sometimes only?06:38
g333k_workhi, what are the x-windows runlevel for ubuntu?06:38
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gangerlihm, now, is there anyone willing to help? just one noob question.. :)06:38
iterg333k_work: 506:38
Tokenbadoskude, partition of hard drive06:38
oskudeTokenbad: what did you do, what error did you got ?06:38
oskude!ask06:38
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:38
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itergangerli: you just asked it ;p06:38
pike_Justm3: if you dont have one delete sda7 and then create two partitions from it one small like 256 to 1024 mb depending on how much space you have make the small one swap and the big one /06:38
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itergangerli: now ask your real question06:39
jozzephwhy does my java sometimes doesn't work?06:39
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jozzephjava should work or not...06:39
gangerlihow can I make sure Buffer underrun protection is enabled before burning Cds?06:39
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gangerlior is it enabled internally?06:39
iterjozzeph: if you run 'java -version' 4x in a row does it work ?06:39
iterjozzeph: if so then java works06:39
iterjozzeph: the problem is the applet most likely06:39
jozzephso it works 3 times on a row iter06:39
iterjozzeph: check the forums for runescape06:39
javierhow can i do06:40
jozzephok06:40
iterjozzeph: seems like other ppl have this sort of issue06:40
jozzephbut i didnt see it there06:40
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jozzephi looked on the main forums06:40
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jozzephthe forums feature a lot of other problems but not mine06:41
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mikeymikeiter: if she can get the laptop online (which i think it is now) i am going to ssh ot it06:41
mikeymikeand fix it06:41
mikeymikelol06:41
jozzephcontacting runescape does not work on ubuntu06:41
itergangerli: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/unofficial_ubuntu_starter_guide/index_097.html06:41
jozzephis there a way to run signed applets for java?06:42
gangerlithx ^^06:42
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jozzephis there a way to run signed applets in ubuntu-java?06:42
Tokenbadoskude, well this can't be good...I have an 80 gig drive...had over 20 gigs free..so was using gparted to partition 20 gigs of it to another partition....now it is saying that drive is full...06:43
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oskudeTokenbad: sorry, i hardly use gparted...06:44
Dimensionsoskude:  i have a simple line of code in a .php just to say hello ... when i open it ... its giving permission error ... while i have also done chown -R user:root /var/www06:44
itergangerli: I think that link is old06:44
itergangerli: you want to run gconf-editor06:44
itergangerli: then browse to apps-->nautilus_cd_buner06:44
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boink!buildessentials06:45
iterDimensions: the webserver doesn't run as root06:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:45
oskudeDimensions: apache is running user "www-data"...06:45
gangerliwell I found the appointed section,06:45
boinkdamm .. what's that called? build-essentials?06:45
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Tokenbadoskude, I can't seem to figure out the one you said...06:45
jozzepherror message on java: unexpected mouse position06:45
pike_Tokenbad: what does du -ah /tmp say?06:45
xamox!mod rewrite06:45
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Dimensionsahhan ... my user is filter ... so i can't run any program page made ?06:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mod rewrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:45
oskudeTokenbad: and i still dont know whats the real problem...06:46
phatmonkeyi'm having trouble getting the SPDIF coax input working on my audigy 2 card - i can't find any relevant options in alsamixer06:46
gangerliit's the same, wheter I do it from a terminal or follow the instructions06:46
gangerliwel thanks again06:46
itersho06:46
Tokenbadpike a bunch of lines of stuff06:46
jozzephi smashed my keyboard coz java didnt work!06:46
pike_last line should be total size of folder06:46
oskudeDimensions: as i said, if you want apache to show webpages, the user "www-data" has to be able to read those files06:46
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Tokenbadoskude, ok...here was the problem...I had started gparted to partition my 80 gig drive...but it sat for 30 mins and nothing...so I killed it...06:47
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hoss_berthow do u boot into rescue mode if your root partition is /dev/hda306:47
Tokenbadpike like 60K06:47
mypapitof06:47
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jozzephseems like smashing the keyboard worked for java06:47
Dimensionsoskude:  even if i login as my own user 'filter' to ubuntu i will have to make that user www-data ? ... and how do i enable it ?06:47
Tokenbadoskude, so figured would try to find something else to partition it06:48
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oskudeDimensions: and an easier way would be to use "public_html" dir in your users home dir...06:48
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Dimensionsu mean to create a directory named public_html ?06:49
oskudeTokenbad: ok, lets start with "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin the result06:49
xenoNfluXDimensions: ...06:49
xenoNfluX!lamp06:49
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ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.06:49
xenoNfluXlook that up06:49
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TheGateKeeperTokenbad: you did press 'apply changes' ?06:49
xenoNfluXit'll help you with what you need to know for your Apache configuration06:49
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TokenbadTheGateKeeper, yes...and it sat for like said...30 mins with that little thing going back and forth06:50
Tokenbadbut not doing anything06:50
jozzephsometimes my java works after restarting my browser...06:50
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oskudeDimensions: if you do a dir /home/yourusername/public_html" you can acces that with your browser at "http://localhost/~yourusernam" that way you dont have to mess with root user rights...06:51
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jozzephi dont understand why i am the only one with my java problem06:51
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Tokenbadoskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25671/06:51
jozzephjava should work or it should not06:51
jozzephbut my java only works sometimes06:52
jozzephthats strange06:52
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segfaultjozzeph, which java are u using06:52
oskudejozzeph: yup, java is "strange" ;)06:52
jozzephi only use 1 browser06:52
jozzeph1 java the sun06:52
oskudeTokenbad: ok, and what do you want to do know ?06:52
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oskudeTokenbad: *now06:53
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jozzephsometimes it works 3 of the 4 times it works06:53
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jozzephall on 1 single program06:53
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jozzeph1 browser 1 java 1 program06:53
oskudeTokenbad: and why do you have W95 Ext'd (LBA) ? and why extended partitions anyway?06:53
xenoNfluXI blame RuneScape06:53
jozzephpossible xeno06:53
xenoNfluXRuneScape used to have a bad memory leak06:53
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jozzephbut still i find it strange06:54
Tokenbadwell....see before I started gparted and tried to partition the drive...I had an 80 gig drive...used about 45 gigs..and had over 20 gigs free...so wanted to partition the drive so could use the 20 gig part to do another copy of ubuntu on that partition...06:54
Tokenbadthe lba and stuff I don't know06:54
jozzephi hate to use windows now06:54
Dimensionsthanks oskude and xenoNfluX06:54
Dimensionstake care guys ...06:54
jendaI have serious networking trouble...06:54
xenoNfluX:)06:54
Dimensions:)06:54
Dimensionsbuhbyee..06:54
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iterjenda: sup06:55
BergcubeIs there any way to modify the "Log off / shut down" window thingy you get when you click the power-symbol in the tray?  I'd like to remove all but the "Log off" option for the users.06:55
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jendaifconfig says my IP is 192.168.1.100... my router says it forwards port 55001 to that IP...06:55
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jendaAnd still the port is closed, according to https://www.grc.com/x/portprobe=5500106:55
jendaand according to Azureus.06:55
oskudeTokenbad: and which partition is that you created ?06:55
Tokenbadits gone...06:56
jendaI have a Zyxel Prestige modem/router06:56
iterjenda: do netstat -tap06:56
jendaAnd this used to work :(06:56
iterjenda: make sure port is open on your machine06:56
Tokenbadnow gparted is saying I have the 80 gig drive but 75 of it is used06:56
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pooruanyone good at configuring secondary NTFS drives?06:56
jendaiter: which part of netstat -tap is useful?06:56
jendaAnd how do I 'open' the port on the PC?06:56
oskudeTokenbad: as i said, i have no idea of gparted...06:56
iterjenda: you're looking for Local Address06:56
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iterjenda: should say something liek localhost:5500106:57
iterjenda: and state should eb LISTEN06:57
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mikeymikeiter: is there a way to avoid routers not allowing port 22 by assing ssh to a different port?06:57
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oskudeTokenbad: and i think that "fdisk -l" should show unpartitioned space if there where any, so you have all space partitioned...06:57
iterjenda: actually should be *:55001 not localhost:5500106:57
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poorui'm having trouble getting the "Local Slave" drive to work under "Computer"06:57
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itermikeymike: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config06:58
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jendaiter: nothing there.06:58
jendaHow can I open it?06:58
oskudeTokenbad: is the hdd used yet ?06:58
nosilver4uhey, i'm trying to get canon brightq printer drivers to work06:58
mikeymikeiter: okay06:58
iterjenda: if you're sure that your software is running you might have a firewall06:58
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nosilver4uit keeps giving me some sort of permissions error when i run te config utiity06:58
oskude Tokenbad as i would get rid of that hdd2 with any means...06:59
mikeymikeiter: after editing that config how do you refresh it?06:59
mikeymikeis it live?06:59
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itermikeymike: /etc/inid.d/ssh restart06:59
nosilver4uit works in gentoo, and it used to work in ubuntu (breezy), any ideas what has changed with the cups config?06:59
mikeymikeok06:59
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oskudeTokenbad: you know you can have upto 4 primary partitions, so no need for extended ?06:59
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jendaiter: most certainly not... default ubuntu, mostly.06:59
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brian_I'm havine problems with Boson packages I can't get any music I have sound. but I get an error loading whatever .mp3 file boson is trying to play I have libvorbis libopenal and all dev libs installed06:59
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iterjenda: can you do 'telnet localhost 55001'07:00
garth_allo07:00
gravesoncan vmware use the video adapter directly- i notice it use something called vmware svga driver ?07:00
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garth_can I talk about bit torrents here, getting real slow speeds07:00
vanisherquick question, is partitioning still needed or is one partition just enough (/)07:00
itergarth_: it's not a bug it's a feature ;\07:00
imperfect-Can someo07:00
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oskudegarth_: and you think thats ubuntus fault ?07:00
Webanyone feel like answering a question for an ubuntu newb?07:01
iterWeb: shoot07:01
jvaigarth: bump up your upload speed07:01
Tokenbadoskude, I didn't actually make the extended07:01
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oskudevanisher: i allways have only / and swap...07:01
Webconcerns File Sharing and using existing NTFS patitioned hard drives07:01
vanisherrgr, lol i'm still in vmware esx mode ;)07:01
garth_yup, maybe when i dowload to disk i get 40kb, on bitorent i get 1.5kb07:01
nosilver4ugraveson: no, it can't07:01
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brian_Who ever packaged the Boson debs did a poor job most of the dependancy are left out and you have to mark them manually :(07:01
Tokenbadoskude, and yes the 80 gig drive has 45 gigs of stuff on it07:01
oskudevanisher: means, / and swap are required (you could do without swap, but is not recommended)07:01
jendaiter: connected...07:02
mikeymikeiter: any ideas as to what port i could reassign sshd to to get around typical university router-gayness07:02
garth_how do i register07:02
iterjenda: ok so your machine is listening07:02
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garth_web_ give it a go07:02
oskudeTokenbad: i hope youre not talking about partition resizing ?07:02
itermikeymike: if they're blocking incoming port 22 they are pretty tight-ass07:02
brian_I'm almost to the point to where i'm going to compile boson myself07:02
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mikeymikeiter: yeah...07:02
vanisheroskude: Thx! trying to convert from windows ;-)07:02
bartisthello everybody07:02
bartistdo somebody know if can i run VBA macros in openoffice?07:02
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mikeymikeiter: i cant even get her ip address.. it keeps giving me a local 19207:03
itermikeymike: might try a high port >102407:03
imperfect-CPU_PWM07:03
mikeymikeiter: even when she goes to ipchicken.com07:03
imperfect-Anyone know what that is?07:03
mikeymikeit gives her some 192 address07:03
imperfect-as a sensor?07:03
Tokenbadoskude, no..I have 2 drives...a small 6 gig drive and an 80 gig drive...the 80 gig drive was what i wanted to partition07:03
WebIf I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?07:03
itermikeymike: is that the same address as her machine gets?07:03
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itermikeymike: thought it was a 172. address07:03
mikeymikeiter: let me have her do if config again07:03
oskudeTokenbad: yes, i know... but still dont really know whats the problem...07:03
itermikeymike: also go to whatismyip.com07:03
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oskudeTokenbad: i need commands and errors :)07:04
mikeymikeiter: 2 of those type sites gave me the same 192 address07:04
mikeymike192.122.237.1107:04
jendaiter: any ideas, then?07:04
iterjenda: can you do telnet 192.168.1.100 5500107:04
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C-O-L-Thello when I am inserting pictures to OO Impress than OO crashes what to do07:04
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WebIf I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?07:05
jendaiter: connected...07:05
atoponcewhere can i find a list of the non-free software that ubuntu ships with?07:05
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mikeymikeiter: 192.122.237.11 is lan isn't it.....07:05
mikeymikehow are these webpages giving her her lan address....07:05
iterjenda: machine is configured ok then, time to double/triple check your router config07:05
oskudeC-O-L-T: i would test another (format) pictures and see if it crashes again...07:06
mikeymikesome weird tunneling going on07:06
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itermikeymike: 192.122 isn't private07:06
darkanyelanyone can help me to configure a webcam???07:06
mikeymikeits not?07:06
itermikeymike: 192.168 is07:06
mikeymikeiter: ah07:06
jendaiter, I have :(07:06
C-O-L-Toskude: but it is jpg07:06
C-O-L-Toskude: should I reinstall?07:06
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oskudeC-O-L-T: ... why reinstall ?07:06
bartistI have a 30GB drive07:07
bartisthow much GB should I attribute to my root, home and swap partition?07:07
oskudeC-O-L-T: im just suggesting to narrow down the cause of the problem...07:07
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we2byfirefox is frozen :(07:07
C-O-L-Toskude: to solve that problem07:07
Tokenbadoskude, ok so tried  cfdisk /dev/hdd  and it gave error saying can't read drive07:07
C-O-L-Toskude: it does the same with every picture07:07
oskudebartist: i never have swap bigger than 1gb07:07
C-O-L-Tformat07:07
vanisherbartist: just heared that 2 partitions are enough, one / and one swap07:07
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garth_hate to do it agian but if I am downloading at 35KB and bitorrents is downloading at 1,5KB surely something is wrong07:07
oskudeTokenbad: did you reboot after gparted "freezed" ?07:07
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bartistoskude, now i am running with a 1gb swap07:07
bartistoskude, but it is never used07:08
Tokenbadoskude, yes07:08
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oskudeC-O-L-T: have you searched google if others have the same problem ?07:08
mikeymikehey iter how do you start sshd07:08
Web If I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?07:08
garth_and can some body let me know how to register my nickname?07:08
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bartistso, of my 30GB, there is 1GB of swap.07:08
bartisthow should i divide the 29GB remaining?07:08
eraccWhat is the apt-* command to download/install security updates only please?07:08
itermikeymike: /etc/init.d/ssh start07:08
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mikeymikethanks07:09
atoponcebasically, i'm looking for the non-free software in the restricted repo that ships by default07:09
mjrbartist, don't. make it a single root partition.07:09
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iterWeb: are you asking if you can overwrite windows server partition or what07:09
sheshuhi07:09
oskudebartist: for root i would do atleast 5-8gb (but i got all in / so i got the rest of hd)07:09
eraccOr for that matter what is the apt-* command to download and install all updates?07:09
iterWeb: you can install ubuntu server and then see/access ntfs drives, yes07:09
iterWeb: ntfs support is not rock solid yet though07:10
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iterWeb: would not recommend it for production07:10
mikeymikeiter:  /etc/init.d/ssh start07:10
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oskudebartist: actually i got 2 ubuntus on a 20gb drive here :)07:10
mikeymikebash: /etc/init.d/ssh: No such file or directory07:10
bartistdo you recommand to separate the /home from /?07:10
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garth_register..............me.......name.................can anyone help please????07:10
Cornelius!mplayer07:10
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dark_lightgarth_, /nickserv help register07:10
mikeymikeiter: did you mean sshd -start ??07:10
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oskudebartist: i used to, but then one was full and the other had plenty of space... i dont see any reason to make own partition for home07:11
itermikeymike: try taht07:11
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Webhmmm ok thanks for the info iter07:11
dark_light<iter> Web: would not recommend it for production > ideed the web is very unstable :)07:11
bartistoskude, here is my situation07:11
bartistoskude, i have 1GB swap and 20GB root07:11
mikeymikeiter: eh...07:11
mikeymikeim not sure07:11
mikeymikeif thats working07:11
bartistI want to reinstall a fresh ubuntu07:11
mikeymikelol07:11
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mikeymikeno command07:11
bartistwithout loosing my home07:12
itermikeymike: /usr/sbin/sshd07:12
bartistwhat can i do?07:12
rodneyksudo is for pussies!07:12
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vanisherbartist: tar them to a network drive07:12
mikeymikeiter: thanks much07:12
oskudebartist: backup your home07:12
bartistvanisher, i have not acces to a network drive07:12
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bartistoskude, isn't there a way to delete everything but my home?07:13
oskudebartist: but thats another thing i never do, i do fresh install of my home too (i got "my files" somewhere else)07:13
dark_lightbartist, it's just a matter to when partitioning only format the / and swap07:13
skuarecirclenickserv durban register07:13
bartistdark_light : my home is in /07:14
mikeymikeiter: this is disturbing....07:14
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mikeymikeiter: no sshd on this dapper install07:14
iterdidn't get installed I guess07:14
mikeymikesince when has linux not came with sshd....07:14
iterapt-get install ssh sshd07:14
mikeymikeiter: yeah07:14
oskudebartist: i do new install only when new versions come out, so i dont even want my old configs in home...07:14
dark_lightbartist, that's too bad07:14
vanishermikeymike: Top security :D no ssh/sshd07:14
mikeymikelol07:14
bartisti have backed up some file in my ipod07:14
mikeymikeHAHA07:14
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excitatorybartist: well, back it up to a dvd, or second hard drive, or cd or something...  in the future, keep /home on a separate partition or even better and second hard drive to avoid this issue..07:14
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jendaiter: Doesn't this telnet output look like it's set? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25674/07:15
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mikeymikei dont think this is tinfoil hat linux....07:15
mikeymikelol07:15
dark_lightbartist, now you know why is a good idea have a separate /home (another thing is: when /home is full the system continues because / is in another partition..)07:15
mikeymikei think even tinfoil hat linux comes with sshd!07:15
bartistso as i am planing to do a fresh instal07:15
Webiter, sorry one more question... any way to convert those NTFS partitions without losing the data so I could make them more "Production ready"07:15
iterjenda: can you access whatever it is on 44444 at 1.37 ?07:15
bartisti will have the opportunity to reconf my hdd07:15
oskudedark_light: you know / has 5% reserved, so it should never really get full...07:16
iterWeb: I would be scared to do that07:16
bartistdo you think 1GB swap, 7GB root, and 22GB home is good?07:16
jendaiter: nope.. I set that up for my other PC which is DHCP07:16
iterWeb: much safer to copy to another disk that's fat3207:16
Web=)... k man, thanks for your time and help.07:16
iterthen use that disk for ubuntu07:16
Webexcellent07:16
itercan also use it under windows w/a fat32 fs07:16
Webthanks again07:16
thermionicyou can't do a non destructive convert of NTFS partitions07:16
jendaiter: OTOH, that one even refuses telnet...07:16
excitatorybartist: how much ram do you have?07:16
itersho07:16
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iterjenda: what's on 44444 on 1.3707:17
Webso if I were to convert them first to FAT 32 b4 I install Ubunto I would be gtg?07:17
iterweb yes07:17
Webok, no more buggy you man! =) Thanks gains!07:17
iterif gtg means good to go and not 'going to gag'07:18
vanisherBartist: When an ext2/3 filesystem is created by default 5% is reserved for root. This is allows root access the partition in case the filesystem becomes full and reduce fragmentation. You can use tune2fs to change the amount of reserved space.07:18
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Weblol07:18
dark_lightoskude, by default? but well, it's a option in /etc/fstab? i cant find it07:18
jendaiter: nothing, I just set up that forward to try the portprobe.07:18
mjrbartist, really, don't make a separate /home unless you have a pressing reason and you know it07:18
bartistthank you all guys for your precious info!07:18
CroXAt http://tremulous.net/ they say that "it made it's way into Ubuntu" but it doesn't say where I can find it. Anyone know?07:18
thermionicdoes anyone here know about creating a local repository for installing Ubuntu from ?07:18
vanisherdark_light: When an ext2/3 filesystem is created by default 5% is reserved for root. This is allows root access the partition in case the filesystem becomes full and reduce fragmentation. You can use tune2fs to change the amount of reserved space.07:18
sureshoti noticed someone posted to me by name i took a nap and did not see it i am here now if someone needed to chat with me07:18
dark_lightoskude, i heard about it, the root can reserve some percentage of partition for its use, but i didnt know that its the default07:19
oskudedark_light: vanisher said you can edit it with tune2fs07:19
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dark_lighthmm :)07:19
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jendaiter: I suppose why that didn't work. I'll try to fallback to DHCP and try it out.07:19
oskudedark_light: if you used the text installer, you would see a 5% there as default ;)07:19
thermionicmaybe I should take the lack of response as a NO07:19
oskudedark_light: oh, but could be that the gui installer doesnt do that...07:20
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bartistanother thing07:20
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thermionica basic requirement for doing multiple installs and nobody sems to know how to do it07:20
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dark_lightoskude, i created partitions with mkfs some times, but i didn't remembered it07:20
bartisti have to run vba code in openoffice spreadsheet for university07:20
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thermionicsaddening really07:20
bartistbut vba only works with excel, and not oo07:20
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oskudedark_light: that doesnt make partitions, it just formats them...07:21
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dark_lightwell you got what i meant :P07:21
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bartistthe only reason why i wanted to format my pc is because of beryl and xgl07:22
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bartisti did not liked it very much07:22
bartistplus it's alpha code, and it hurts your eyes07:23
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sharperguyis it possible to stop the edgy upgrade once youve started downloading (i assume i'll have to fix sources.list)07:23
sharperguyif possible PM it to me because i have to go07:23
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dark_lightbartist, you can just remove it..07:23
dark_lightand use the old X07:23
oskudeon terminal, just press ctrl+c07:23
dark_lightor, you could just remake the links for point to the old X.org ..07:24
oskudesharperguy: on terminal, just press ctrl+c07:24
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bartistdark_light i removed it07:25
bartistbut i feel my pc is buggy since i installed it07:25
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dark_lightper example?07:25
vanisheri just have 2 problems completly migrating to linux :(07:26
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Linuturk_codevanisher, and they are?07:26
bartistwhat is remake the links for point to the old X.org?07:26
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vanisherOutlook -> pda synchronization and MS Flightsimulator07:26
Corneliusis it possible to have kanotix and Ubuntu at the sametime on 1 computer07:26
bartistdark: when i updated my sys today, my screen went black07:26
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bartistdark: i can not run macros in OO07:26
crwebis the xine/flac problem with amarok ever going to be fixed in 6.*?07:27
Tokenbadoskude, yes I rebooted07:27
bartistand, my OO presentations are buggy07:27
mikeymikeok so.. once you edit sshd_config how you restart it07:27
we2byhow do I install xfce4 themes?07:27
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mikeymikejust run the daemon again?07:27
mikeymiketo get the new settings?07:27
vanisherlinuturk_code: any suggestion ? :D07:27
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Linuturk_codevanisher, there is a pda syncer on dapper, but I've never used it07:27
Cornelius!dvb-t07:28
Linuturk_codevanisher, check www.winehq.org to see if the flight similator works with wine07:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:28
vanishermy pda is running windows mobile, i wasn't able to sort it out yet :(07:28
oskudevanisher: and there is a free flight simulator, dunno the name, google..07:28
Cornelius!dvbt07:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvbt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:28
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boink!realplay07:28
uboturealplay: RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.. In component main, is optional. Version 10.0.8-0ubuntu1 (dapper-commercial), package size 6110 kB, installed size 15456 kB (Only available for i386)07:28
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bashusrhello everyone... what's the latest ubuntu server?07:28
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oskudevanisher: here http://www.flightgear.org/07:29
oskudebashusr: 6.0607:29
ChimereHi, what's the best psx emulator for UB?07:29
Cornelius!dvb07:29
bashusrhuh?07:29
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:29
bashusri can only find 5.1007:29
vanisheroskude: Yes i know that, but Microsoft Flight Simulator is very sofisticated.. with online ATC, custom planes etc (like www.vatsim.com)07:29
oskudevanisher: then use that...07:30
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vanisheroskude: indeed.. that are the only things that keep me of 100% linux :-( http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=281907:30
oskudebashusr: hmm, where do you look, i see like this http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/6.06/07:30
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bashusrahh07:31
bashusri was looking http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/ubuntu/ubuntu-server/07:31
mikeymikecan someone tell me what this means when running sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key07:31
oskudevanisher: then go say that to the software makers, and ask for a linux client!07:31
bashusroskude: does the server release have LAMP package on the ISO?07:31
oskudebashusr: dunno, sorry07:31
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vanisheroksude: YEAH DUDE :) Mister Microsoft, please make Windows Vista compatible with linux :)07:31
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Tokenbadoskude, I can't even fdisk the drive07:32
bashusrTokenbad: then throw it out!07:32
oskudevanisher: i said about the programs, not the os...07:32
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bashusrTokenbad: corrupt!07:32
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vanisheroskude: i know ;-) but i'll guess the answer is the same lol brb coffee time.07:32
oskudeTokenbad: whats your command ?07:32
oskudevanisher: and what should we now do about it ?07:33
_stippi_Hi, I want to convert video files (for example WMV -> AVI), I have so far managed to install the gstreamer plugins necessary to at least watch the videos I want to convert. Can someone recommend a tool for the conversion?07:33
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vanisheroskude: forcing the online flightsim community to use flight gear or something :D07:33
JamesFosterVanisher: http://www.x-plane.com/07:33
ArrenLexstippi: mencoder! :D07:33
bashusrdoes ubuntu support linksys usb wireless G network adaptor?07:33
_stippi_ArrenLex: thanks, I will give that a try07:34
vanisheroskude: that would only be around 10.000 online people a day ;-) i think that's easier than convincing MS , but enough about that07:34
ArrenLexstippi: part of the mplayer package, in multiverse07:34
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Tokenbadoskude, I tried fdisk /dev/hdd107:34
ChimereWhat are the .so files on Ubuntu?07:35
oskudeTokenbad: hmm, thats a partition, fdisk needs a harddisk... and root (sudo) rights...07:35
joltstatic libraries07:35
ArrenLexChimere: libraries. Like .dll07:35
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_stippi_ArrenLex: are there any GUI tools too?07:35
ChimereThanks Arren.07:36
Tokenbadoskude, hdd is my second drive07:36
Tokenbadnot a partition07:36
ChimereAnybody tried to install wxWidgets with Code::Blocks?07:36
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oskudeTokenbad: yup, and you used hdd107:36
ArrenLexstippi: yes, but I haven't found any taht work for me. It's easier to use commands once you get the hang of it. mencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=<videobitrate>:abitrate=<audiobitrate>:vhq <file.wmv> -o <outfile.avi>07:36
ArrenLexthat07:37
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ArrenLexstippi: man mplayer is also wonderful. Although long.07:37
oskude_stippi_: i used to use transcode07:38
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oskude_stippi_: but it seems dead :/07:38
Tokenbadoskude, I have tried it both ways...but its cause I didn't use sudo...but even in fdisk I don't know how to fix it07:38
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oskudeTokenbad: fix what ? (and i would use cfdisk for editing partitions)07:39
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Tokenbadoskude, as I said...I have 80 gig drive...before I used gparted and it froze...the drive had over 20 gigs free...now...I tried to partition 20 gigs to another partition...but it froze...now when I start gparted it says 75 gigs of the 80 gig drive is used...so in other words...its had the other space taken up that I was going to use for partition...and no way to get it back..07:40
_stippi_ArrenLex: I get an error that the output file cannot be opened!!07:40
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Tokenbadoskude, it don't list it as an unused partition07:41
ArrenLexstippi: are you trying to write the file somewhere you don't have permission to write it?07:41
oskudeTokenbad: hmm, i just dont get you... this doesn make sence "I tried to partition 20 gigs to another partition"07:41
ArrenLexstippi: try -o /tmp/file.avi07:41
oskudeTokenbad: so you dont have any free (unpartitioned) space then07:42
bashusris there a ubuntu release that is 650MB or less?07:42
oskudeTokenbad: if you run "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd" do you see "unpartitioned space" somehwere ?07:43
bashusrsorta don't have any 700MB CDs lying around07:43
ArrenLexbashusr: ran into that problem. The edgy install CDs just fit on 650MB cds if you use overburning.07:43
oskudebashusr: maybe the alternate image07:43
ArrenLexoskude: no.07:43
bashusroskude: alternative is 69807:43
oskudeArrenLex: bashusr, indeed07:44
Tokenbadoskude, let me try this again...the drive...its 80 gigs...I had used 45 gigs of it...I wanted to take 20 gigs of the free space on that drive..and partition it off...so could use that 20 gigs for something else...but when gparted froze...it now says there is no free space...when there should be07:44
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oskudebashusr: the server is smaller ;)07:44
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oskudeTokenbad: free partitioned or unpartitioned space ?07:45
bashusroskude: can i install a GUI on it?07:45
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ArrenLexbashusr: once you get the core of ubuntu installed, you can install anything you want.07:45
oskudebashusr: sure, but over internet (or from another cd/dvd(07:45
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_stippi_ArrenLex: for some reason I could not write to fat32.... plus I have these complete system freezes, which I totally hate.07:46
mikeymikewhats that command to find out what chipset the wifi is?07:46
_stippi_could you repeat that mencoder line for me?07:46
bashusrArrenLex: will i have to "configure" anything... or will i be able to just apt-get install GPM and have the same environment as the desktop?07:46
_stippi_because it worked, before my system froze07:46
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ArrenLexstippi: I never had that problem, and I have a fat32 partition... but I dunno.07:46
highnekoWhen I minimize a window I see an outline. How do I remove this?07:46
oskudeTokenbad: as you cant partition a partition in partition :/ so you need UNPARTITIONED space before you can do new partitions (people say you can resize, but i never use that)07:46
ArrenLexbashusr: I have no idea what gpm is, but I'm pretty sure apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will set you up.07:46
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bashusrArrenLex: err GDM (gnome display manager)07:47
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dfgashow do i take a screen shot?07:47
bashusrthat's how you used to have to do it back on debian :-p07:47
Tokenbadosfameron, the drive was never partitioned...I formated it and made it ext3...and then started putting stuff on it...I wanted to take the free space and make that into a partition07:47
oskudedfgas: the "print-screen" button07:47
_stippi_ArrenLex: could you repeat that mencoder line for me?07:47
bashusrso how good is ubuntu support for wireless USB and PCMCIA cards?07:47
ArrenLexbashusr: uh, no. That'll just install the login screen, not gnome itself. You'll have to go "apt-get install gdm x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome"07:47
bashusri'll stick with ubuntu-desktop :)07:48
ArrenLexmencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=<videobitrate>:abitrate=<audiobitrate>:vhq <file.wmv> -o <outfile.avi>07:48
oskudebashusr: as good as they are open to developers...07:48
Tokenbadoskude, I mean , the drive was never partitioned...I formated it and made it ext3...and then started putting stuff on it...I wanted to take the free space and make that into a partition07:48
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Russelhiho07:48
oskudeTokenbad: hmm, you can format without a partition...07:48
AstrophixHi all..07:49
bashusroskude: in other words... has linux hackers got support for things like the linksys usb adapter (WUSB54G)?07:49
oskudeTokenbad: *cant07:49
mikeymikeok i have a broadcom bcm4318 wifi card on eth1 (gateway laptop) how do i get it working07:49
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Russeli want to set the $EDITOR to vim, how can i do it?07:49
ArrenLexexport EDITOR=vim ?07:49
ArrenLexor vi? or whatever works?07:49
oskudebashusr: google, or the ubuntu hardware support page...07:49
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oskudebashusr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:49
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Tokenbadoskude, well not sure how to say it..but basicly qparted has taken all the free space I had...and did something with it...cause now I have no free space07:49
micahcowanRussel, what ArrenLex said. If you put that in your ~/.bashrc, it will execute that line every time you start.07:49
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Russeli mean global forever07:49
Russelsomething systemwide?07:49
buzzy-!w32codecs07:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:49
tox!ompiz07:50
dalfz!openoffice07:50
micahcowanIf you want to make a more global change, Russel, try "sudo update-alternatives --set editor /usr/bin/vim".07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ompiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".07:50
tox!compiz07:50
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:50
ArrenLexRussel: put EDITOR="vim" in /etc/environment07:50
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oskudeTokenbad: well... then learn some (very) basic partitioning and do it manually with cfdisk07:50
sharperguyoskude, oh yea, im not useing dist-upgrade07:50
Russelthx i try it07:50
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Tokenbadoskude, I can't now....the space is gone...unless someone knows a way to get it back07:50
sharperguyim using the gui07:50
oskudeTokenbad: how do you know its "gone" ?07:51
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pike_Tokenbad: have you rebooted since then?07:51
bashusrthaks oskude07:51
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khaije1whats the comparison between aiglx and xgl? i've seen people say aiglx is superior?07:51
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AstrophixCouldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)07:51
Tokenbadoskude, cause...its saying the drive is full...and its not...it had like 35 gigs free before this...07:51
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Tokenbadpike_, yes07:51
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oskudeTokenbad: so if you look in cfdisk the partitions space and count them together, and comapre that to the harddisk size, youre missing like gigabytes ?07:52
eraccHey, dudes, you do know you can open a private IRC session with the bot (ubotu) to test your database lookups first ...07:52
heanol_anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu with 2.6.18?07:53
_stippi_ArrenLex: ok thanks! can this be done with SWF files as well? I mean convert a flash movie into AVI?07:53
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mikeymikeanyone in here got dapper working with Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 ??07:53
mikeymikeanyone able to point me to a howto or something ... a resource of info about making that wifi card work with dapper07:53
efrancolaportehi i need help. i have the nvidia drivers installed and it used to load them at boot but now i dont know why it doesn't anymore and i have no 3d acceleration07:53
pike_Tokenbad: maybe fsck the partition?07:54
Tokenbadoskude, I can't seem to get cfdisk to read the disk07:54
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kmaynardefrancolaporte: tried automatix?07:54
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oskudeTokenbad: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd07:54
HeXiOnhello07:54
efrancolaporteyes i installed them with atomatix07:54
oskude_stippi_: flash is not a video format...07:54
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efrancolaportei tried reinstalling them from the terminal but it says the newest version is already installed so it wont do anything07:54
_stippi_oskude: I know07:54
HeXiOnanyone knows a program to edit ISO files??? (just to delete some files to match a 650MB disc).. KIso crashes :S07:54
Tokenbadoskude, ok...its says 77gigs on one partition and like 2 gigs on another07:55
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oskudeTokenbad: ok, so youre not missing any space...07:55
AstrophixCouldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)07:55
SubhumanHeXiOn, mount the iso and edit it then.07:55
kmaynardefrancolaporte: have you looked at your xorg.conf file to make sure the right driver is loaded?07:55
Tokenbadoskude, yes I am...the 35 gigs that was free...now its saying is used07:56
Subhuman!iso07:56
HeXiOnSubhuman, and when I umount it, changes are saved?07:56
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ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows07:56
efrancolaportei am going to look now07:56
Tokenbadso that 35 gigs that was free I can't use now07:56
oskudeTokenbad: free space on a partition ? or free unpartitioned space ?07:56
HeXiOnthanks unotu & Subhuman07:56
_stippi_oskude: some flash movies are non interactive, why can't I convert those?07:57
oskude_stippi_: dunno, ask adobe!07:57
efrancolaportei see in my xorg.conf:07:57
efrancolaporteSection "Device"07:57
efrancolaporte    Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] "07:57
efrancolaporte    Driver         "nvidia"07:57
efrancolaporteEndSection07:57
_stippi_oskude: don't try to preach to the converted07:57
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SubhumanHeXiOn, ubotu is a bot07:57
Subhumanuse !command07:57
kmaynardthat should do it then07:57
efrancolaporteim not sure what its supposed to write07:57
Subhuman!ubotu07:57
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:57
eraccTokenbad, from the "problem box" post the output of 'df -k' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ then give us the URL please.07:58
oskude_stippi_: maybe you should ask, why doesnt flash export movie ?07:58
HeXiOnSubhuman, oops!!! :D07:58
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_stippi_there is an SWF gstreamer plugin, can this be useful to me?07:58
heanol_is edgy eft beta newer than knot 3?07:58
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oskudeheanol_: i think so07:59
_stippi_I mean, I thought gstreamer was supposed to be a frame work, but now I saw that some movies play in one gstreamer app and not in others.07:59
kmaynardefrancolaporte: check your log   /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:59
_stippi_I thought it is all interchangable...07:59
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Subhumanheanol_, the beta is the newest.07:59
kmaynardor whatever your system names it...it's in /var/log07:59
Subhumanthey will all update themselves to the same level anyway once installed.07:59
oskude_stippi_: maybe the other apps are not using that parts of gstreamer... but i have like no clue...07:59
Subhumanheanol_, any edgy chat should be in #ubuntu+1 however08:00
heanol_anyone know what kernel the beta has?08:00
heanol_ok08:00
efrancolaportemy terminal says permisson denied08:00
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RahmielI'm trying to enable 3d acceleration with my nvidia geforce card, following the instructions in the help.. when I do nvidia-glx-config enable I get that it cannot due to my X configuration being altered.08:00
kmaynardtry sudo08:00
efrancolaporte/var/log/Xorg.0.log says permission denied in my terminal, even as root08:00
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HeXiOnSubhuman, it mounts as read only08:01
HeXiOn-rw maybe08:01
pxlmdkis ubuntu free to download?08:01
HeXiOn?08:01
eraccTokenbad, hmmm, maybe include the output of 'df -i' too.08:01
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sharperguypxlmdk, most definatly08:01
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eraccRunning out of inodes is as bad as running out of physical space.08:01
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kmaynardefrancolaporte: ls -l /var/log | grep Xorg08:02
pxlmdkgreat. it is one of the easiest versions of linux right?08:02
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habeebHello, I was messing arround with my mp3 player (deleting files and restoring etc) and now, I have an empty mp3, but with only 93MB space left. How can I completely restore it or something? Not a brand mp3, so there are no software available. Thanks!08:02
sharperguyyea08:02
efrancolaporteok kmaynard, that gives me:08:02
matt8806suomi"Dynamic CPU throttle" can anyone help me?08:02
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pxlmdki have never run linux but 2003 is going to become out of date and i am not going to be running xp or vista.08:02
efrancolaporteshit i cant copy from terminal08:02
Rookie!ati08:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:03
efrancolaportenevermind08:03
efrancolaporte-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47764 2006-10-04 13:43 Xorg.0.log08:03
efrancolaporte-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47764 2006-10-04 08:14 Xorg.0.log.old08:03
efrancolaporte-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47765 2006-10-02 21:23 Xorg.20.log08:03
efrancolaporte-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   27479 2006-10-01 15:22 Xorg.20.log.old08:03
eraccpxlmdk, "easiest" is relative to one's experience. ;-)08:03
efrancolaportethats what it gives me kmaynard08:03
THX-1138habeeb - restore a deleted mp3? "Penguin Sleuth Kit"08:03
sharperguyhabeeb, try pressing ctrl+h and deleting the .trash-yourname folder08:03
kmaynardoh, the permission denied bit was from the log file itself08:03
kmaynardyou were reading it08:03
ubuntu_hi all just did a update and i cant get xdesktop to load any way i can reupdate from there08:03
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efrancolaporteyeah anyway what am i supposed to understand form that giberish :D08:04
pxlmdklol eracc that makes sense but basically is it the best for noobs to linux?08:04
ubuntu_says i am missing i font .ttf file08:04
ChucaraCan anyone help me install mplayer on dapper drake, tried a few FAQ/howto, but apt-get keeps saying that there is no package "mplayer"08:04
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eraccpxlmdk, that is what I understand, yes. But I am no noob by a long shot so I can only tell you it works for me. ;-)08:05
bashusrChucara: you got to add the universe binary location08:05
matt8806suomii'm looking to setup/enable "Dynamic CPU throttle" can anyone help me please?08:05
bashusrChucara: or something like that08:05
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Chousukeefrancolaporte: user (root) has read-write permissions, group (root) has read permissions, others have no permissions08:05
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RahmielI follow the guide to setup my nvidia drivers, but I get the following:08:05
Rahmiel"Error: your X configuration has been altered.08:05
RahmielThis script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this08:05
Rahmielnot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following08:05
Rahmielcommand:08:05
Rahmielmd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum08:05
Chousukes/user/owner08:05
Rahmielotherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section08:05
Rahmielfrom nv to nvidia."08:05
THX-1138ubuntu_ - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - to rid of the blues screen and an error about the xserver being disabled until reconfigured?08:05
RahmielSorry for spam.08:05
pxlmdkok eracc sounds good.08:05
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HeXiOnSubhuman, it didn't work... mounts as read only and option -w is ignored08:05
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efrancolaporteChousuke I know that. my problem is that the nvidia drivers are not loading when I boot ubuntu I have no idea why because they USED to load08:06
SubhumanHeXiOn, are you trying to mount the ubuntu cd?08:06
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HeXiOnyes08:06
efrancolaporteand they are still installed so it wont let me install them because they already are08:06
HeXiOnSubhuman, edgy beta08:06
Subhumanif so, its all compressed anyway, so you cant simply jus mount it, delete some stuff and close it again08:06
Chousukeefrancolaporte: maybe yout kernel got upgraded and the drivers didn't.08:06
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ubuntu_so what is the code..... sudo app-get??????08:07
Subhumanif you cant get a CD, get one shipped for free, or do a netinstall (assuming you have more than one pc on your network)08:07
eraccpxlmdk, if you learned your PC "skilz" on Micro$oft products you will still need to retrain yourself a bit. But if you use KDE or Gnome desktops you should find it very familiar. The real differences are "under the hood" and take longer to understand.08:07
efrancolaporteChousuke.... i have no idea... how do i fix the situation??08:07
Chousukeefrancolaporte: Did you install them from the nvidia package?08:07
THX-1138How do you enable the mount command from the live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.08:07
efrancolaportecould i uninstall them and reinstall them?08:07
pxlmdkhttps://shipit.ubuntu.com/ <- free ubuntu cd :D08:07
efrancolaportei installed them from Atomatix08:07
we2byany way to increase the performance of firefox? or alternative to firefox?08:07
Chousukeefrancolaporte: hmmh08:07
HeXiOnSubhuman, it's to not waste a non-rewritable CD08:07
Chousukeefrancolaporte: I don't know what automatix did08:07
HeXiOnSubhuman, I think I'll have to :)08:07
Chousukeefrancolaporte: go ask on #automatix08:07
pxlmdkeracc i have only used M$ unfortunately. i am familiar with command lines at least tho.08:08
HeXiOnSubhuman, thanks for your help08:08
Subhumanyeah, a cd is like 5p these days anyway08:08
Subhumanno problem.08:08
efrancolaportelook its a ubuntu problem more than an atomatix one08:08
afiefWhat are some good replacements for nautilus?08:08
THX-1138pxlmdk - The lack of viruses and malware is the reason to try linux. - flexible configurability will addict you.08:08
eraccpxlmdk, all I can say is try it. If you have a spare PC then that is the best way to go IMO.08:08
efrancolaportei can install the drivers without atomatix if i know how to uninstall them in the 1st pace08:08
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efrancolaportebut i dont know that either08:09
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Chousukeefrancolaporte: I don't know what automatix did, so I can't tell you how to undo it08:09
pxlmdkyah i am going to back up my system and try to install a dual boot08:09
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efrancolaporteomfg08:09
eraccpxlmdk, the second best way to start is dual-boot on the same PC with a second drive.08:09
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efrancolaportewhy cant i just uninstall the package08:09
Chousukeefrancolaporte: #ubuntu has (at least had) a policy of redirecting automatix users to #automatix08:09
efrancolaporteor something like thaty08:09
ChucaraI've added about 2 pages worth of text to sources.list, yet I am still unable to find any mplayer or mplayer-586 packages?08:09
THX-1138pxlmdk - compare the adware filled "window blinds" to even the simplest of gnome themes. - nice08:09
Chousukeefrancolaporte: well, you should be able to.08:10
axanyone know how i can make it so that ldconfig looks in /usr/local/lib ?08:10
pxlmdkuntil i find a way to use photoshop in linux. maybe pixel will do.08:10
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Chousukeefrancolaporte: but I can't guarantee it'll work08:10
eraccpxlmdk, yes, please DO backup first. ;-)08:10
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pxlmdkeracc ok i will use a second drive thanks for the tip. :)08:10
Chousukesince automatix is not supported by Ubuntu :/08:10
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Chousukeor #ubuntu, for that matter.08:10
efrancolaporteok08:10
wumingcompiz is broken now?08:10
Ubuntu_Durbanneed some help08:10
pxlmdki have a 27 gig i can put in i just haven't bothered.08:10
THX-1138pxlmdk - have you taken a look at the codeweavers version of WINE?08:10
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ubuntu_so what is the code to update and install ..... sudo app-get??????08:11
efrancolaportetheres noone in #atomatix08:11
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pxlmdkno thx08:11
Ubuntu_Durbanwhere do i go for help on chatzilla, I know it's off topic08:11
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sureshotthx-1138 it that version better than cedega08:11
efrancolaportecome on i bet 2/3 of people here used atomatix themselves08:11
eraccpxlmdk, take a look at The GIMP for editing graphics. It is not Photo$hop but many graphics people I know like it.08:11
sureshoti did not08:11
oskudeefrancolaporte: i doubt!08:11
v3rt3xmy laptop hangs at the end of shutdown when I try to reboot it. It only does this after a suspend to memory. Anyone else experience this?08:11
TubaSoldierubuntu_ the command is sudo apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade08:11
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ChimereAnybody installed the last version of SDL on ubuntu (1.2.1.1)?08:12
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efrancolaportemy problem started much later after i used atomatix..... it worked for at least 2 weeks08:12
pxlmdkTHX-1138 wow nice didn't know about that.08:12
jmitchjcan someone help me with setting up my Wireless connection?08:12
efrancolaportei didnt run atomatix more than once, so it didnt do any changes before and after it was working08:12
afiefwuming: they moved to beryl08:12
eraccpxlmdk, oh yes, THX-1138 mentioned WINE. That is another possibility to keep using your Photo$hop.08:12
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ubuntu_ty for the help08:12
sureshotthen you installed somthing that broke it and such and what i have been told that once you use automatix there is not going back with out a reinstall08:12
wumingafief:thx08:12
efrancolaporteubuntu changed something while updating, most likely. atomatix never updated08:13
afiefWhat are some good replacements for nautilus?08:13
ChimereAnybody installed the last version of LibSDL and LibSDL-Dev on ubuntu (1.2.1.1)?08:13
oskudeafief: konqueror, some may say...08:13
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sureshotTHX-1138 it that version better than cedega08:13
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afiefoskude: i meant without all the overhead KDE packages08:14
jmitchj can someone help me with setting up my Wireless connection?08:14
TubaSoldiermidnight commander is one08:14
TubaSoldierto replace nautilus08:14
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Ubuntu_Durbanme is a pink bunny08:14
oskudeafief: aha ...08:14
eraccIMO one should use Window$ app$ on Window$ and OSS apps on Linux. But some like to "shoehorn" Window$ stuff onto X so application layers like WINE exist. I try to avoid them.08:14
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Tokenbaderacc, this is the df -k : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25679/08:14
Peter77hi, I installed ubuntu on my laptop a few days ago, will I need to download any special drivers for my hardware or does ubuntu already have everything I need?08:15
Tokenbadoskude, df -i : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25680/08:15
afiefEracc: sometimes it's not an option, and it would actually be nice to have all the windows software running on linux08:15
kmaynardefrancolaporte: what tipped you off the 3d was broken?08:15
der0bpeter77: is everything working?08:16
eraccEgad, Tokenbad! Everything is under '/'?08:16
Peter77yes08:16
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efrancolaporteyes08:16
der0bthen you're all set :)08:16
oskudeTokenbad: what should i do with that ?08:16
efrancolaportethats what tipping me off. windows are slower to drag, my screensavers dont work anymore and all my games are super slow08:16
afiefTubaSoldier: will anybody blame me if i sell my soul to midnight commander? i'm in love:D08:16
kmaynarddo you get the nvidia splash screen?08:16
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Peter77apart from the intermitent battery level reading, I set the icon to always be displayed but when I don't get a reading it just displays a plug which when I hover over says "running off battery"08:17
Rambo3_how do i get my nickname  back somone is using it?08:17
eraccTokenbad, hrm, you are definitely not out of either space nor out of inodes. Hmmmm.08:17
TubaSoldierafief, no. no one will blame you for anything08:17
ChucaraCan anyone help me figure out why my mplayer playback is god awful? (divx)08:17
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oskudeafief: nope, in oss, you dont have to sell your soul08:17
geanhi all!08:17
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der0bpeter77: Linux and Win differ in that most of the hardware suppoert is built into the kernel.  You usually don't need to download drivers (unless you have funky hardware which has drivers being developed and isn't in the kernel yet)08:17
TubaSoldierlol, good one oskude08:17
gean!hdinstall08:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hdinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:17
eraccafief, heh, I'm an OSS bigot. What can I say? ;-)08:17
afiefoskude: oh right:D i'm glad i quit windows before i did...08:17
gean!install08:17
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:17
ChucaraBy God awful, I mean: laggy, sound not playing on que with picutre08:17
kmaynardefrancolaporte: do you get the nvidia splash screen?08:18
jvaii'm glad i did too..lol08:18
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THX-1138WINE, Cedega, Crossover Office, Virtual machines like vmware, kqemu - linux flexibility08:18
efrancolaporteno i dont. i used to, but not anymore.08:18
Peter77what could be causing the battery level to show before a reboot but not after?08:18
afieferacc: sure i'm trying to run as many OSS apps as i can:) but my dad can't use a PC that doesn't run his legacy software from 199508:18
efrancolaportenot since i found out my drivers dont load anymore08:18
ChucaraI notice that Xorg is eating away 60% CPU on mplayer playback.. I usually use 3% CPU total in windows to play divx.. ?!08:18
oskudeafief: there are good dos emulators ;)08:18
efrancolaporteyet there still is NVIDIA Settings in my System Tools menu from the menu bar Applications08:19
kmaynardefrancolaporte: try uninstalling and reinstalling automatix...there was a new version out not long ago. also there was a new version of the nvidia driver released recently08:19
THX-1138FreeDOS08:19
eraccNow running a VM is something with which I agree. I actually run an instance of Window$ 98 in Bochs here. (Just because I can, I don't really use the thing ;-)08:19
jmitchjhow do i gain access to an installed program that doesn't show up under Applications or "Open with"?08:19
afiefoskude: it's a windows application he bought when windows 95 was released08:19
efrancolaportek08:19
kmaynardjmitchj: what program?08:19
mumbles-laptopwhat the hell is it/.08:19
jmitchjmplayer3208:19
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afiefoskude: ignore that, mixed up the conversations:)08:19
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efrancolaportei dont run therisk of having "clones" of packages installed over each other?08:19
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efrancolaportei.e v 6.0 and v.6.01 installed at the same time?08:20
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kmaynardjmitchj: there should be a frontend for that...cant think of the name right off hand tho08:20
kmaynard!mplayer08:20
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile08:20
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ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.08:20
kmaynard!mplayer-gui08:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-gui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:20
jtickleis anyone here using Beagle and could tell me why it's not indexing applications?08:20
kmaynard!mplayer-gtk08:20
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-gtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:20
oskudekmaynard: gmplayer ?08:21
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kmaynardoskude: bingo08:21
kmaynard!gmplayer08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
Peter77der0b: what could cause the battery monitor not to show the battery level randomly after reboot or shut down?08:21
domini1salut08:21
THX-1138!info gmplayer08:21
ubotuPackage gmplayer does not exist in any distro I know08:21
TubaSoldierdoes anybody use the gnome wallpaper-tray and actually have it working?08:21
domini1who speak french08:21
der0bpeter77: I haven't the slightest idea.  sorry08:21
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eracc!fr08:22
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:22
oskudekmaynard: apt-file search gmplayer : mplayer: usr/bin/gmplayer08:22
kmaynardwell crap. i just install codecs thru automatix, not the players. most of my media is either in a browser or in totem08:22
Peter77der0b: hmm, I really need to fix that, the battery level use to show 100% of the time in suse 1008:22
beowuffI'm wondering what CLI mail clients people are using. I was going to use pine, but it doesn't appear to be in the repositories.08:22
AAAgmplayer is part of the mplayer-xxx pkg08:22
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kmaynardgotcha08:23
kmaynardi still have a foot in gentoo i guess ;)08:23
v3rt3xI can suspend to mem fine and resume fine. But when I try to reboot after that, it hangs at the very end of the process and won't turn off. Anyone else seen this?08:23
oskudebeowuff: i heard some use "mutt"08:23
eraccTokenbad, what application is telling you are out of space? Does this happen with /all/ applications or just one/some?08:23
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THX-1138domini1 - You might also install a .py script to translate irc using irssi and bablefish08:23
ChucaraNoone have any idea what causes xorg to jump to 60% and mplayer to 40% when starting mplayer on a freshly installed ubuntu?08:23
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kmaynardweak system? :) jk08:24
Tokenbaderacc, i am not sure what other programs to use to see free space on that drive08:24
Tokenbadbut gparted is saying its full08:24
ChucaraIt is, but I can run mplayer on windows without incident..08:24
beowuffoskude, cool, I think that'll work. thanks.08:24
THX-1138Tokenbad df and du in terminal??08:25
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oskudeTokenbad: please do refer to unpartitioned free space if you mean that, free space would mean (for most of us) free unused space in a partition...08:25
dark_lightTokenbad, type df -h08:25
der0bchucara: have you tried some of the alternate output options?  maybe there's one that works better on your machine08:25
iter2-0 oakland woooo08:25
iterwhoops08:25
buzzy-!lame08:25
dark_lightdf -h shows free unused space in a partition..08:25
iterwell, GO A's anyway ;)08:25
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB08:25
Tokenbadoskude, well I guess since it was one drive...the space was used..08:25
Chucarader0b: What do you mean?08:25
Chucarader0b: Alternate players, or?08:25
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Tokenbador should say space in a partitioned drive08:26
der0bchucara: you can switch output options using mplayer (the list is huge, you should check the man page)08:26
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habeebsharperguy: woah, great. But now only 500MB restored...08:26
habeebsharperguy: I want MOAR!08:26
efrancolaportehey i fixed the issue08:26
ChucaraWhen playing, it says "Badly interleaved AVI file detected - switching to -mi mode" - Does that have an impact?08:26
UKMattIf I wanted to do something like create a 10 second .mpg or .avi (something that can be burned to a DVD) from scratch, what program should I use?08:26
der0bchucara: for instance, mplayer runs like poo on my machine until I set the -ao to esd08:26
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eraccTokenbad, if your drive has no unpartitioned space then as far as a partition editor (gparted) is concerned the drive /is/ full.08:26
oskudeTokenbad: and as i said, you need unpartitioned free space to make another partitions... (but some say you can resize existing partitions...)08:26
Chucarader0b: Ok, I'll experiment a little - thanks08:27
efrancolaportefor some reason my nvidia-settings.desktop file or whatever was empty no idea why. i pasted back the settings it should have and restarted the x server and now my driver loads08:27
Tokenbaddark_light, it says the drive is now only 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...so guess it was partitioned...but where08:27
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yellowhey08:27
efrancolaportethanks for all your help :-)08:27
der0bchucara: have fun, it can be time consuming but once you figure it out you're golden :)08:27
afiefyellow, hi08:27
efrancolaportei dont know why it was ampty though :| strange08:27
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jmitchjkmaynard: Any luck with how to get to mplayer3208:27
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jmitchjif i want to try and run a program for the Terminal ...what command do i use?08:28
Subhumanjmitchj, from the terminal?08:28
dark_lightTokenbad, where? who is saying that your have a 47gb drive? i didn't understand. if your drive has more than 47gb so maybe there are free unused space outside the partition. i am confused. :P08:29
afiefjmitchj: usually the program's name08:29
Subhumanapplicatyions-accesories-terminal08:29
sharperguyhabeeb, terminal to youre folder and run "sudo rm -rf . " (this will delete everything in the folder so make sure its the right one)08:29
jmitchjyeah...i can't find it anywhere else....but it's installed08:29
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Subhumanor ALT+F2 and tick run in terminal jmitchj08:29
habeebsharperguy: ok08:29
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afiefjmitchj: which program?08:29
jmitchjmplayer3208:30
Tokenbaddark_light, the drive is 80 gig...that I tried to resize I guess...so could have 2 partitions on the drive...df -h says the hdd1 is only 47gigs with 15 gigs free...so the other partition should be some where08:30
habeebsharperguy: $ sudo rm -rf .08:30
habeebrm: cannot remove `.' or `..'08:30
dfgasanyone here use vmware player?08:30
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sharperguyoh08:30
afiefjmitchj: applications-> accesories -> terminal -> mplayer08:30
der0bdfgas: yes08:30
sharperguytry removing the .08:30
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dark_lightTokenbad, no, there are a "free" space of 37gb that is outside partitions08:30
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dfgasder0b, how do i get sound08:31
sharperguyor changing it to a *08:31
AstrophixCouldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)08:31
dfgasder0b, windows xp is the system i am running08:31
jmitchji have an amd64 system....will that play mplayer32?...or the regular mplayer?08:31
dark_light33*08:31
appelzaHi guys, I'm having trouble with exim, I installed it and its log shows :  Permission denied: creating lock file hitching post /var/mail/www-data.lock.prophecy.4523fd52.0000073c (euid=33 egid=8)08:31
THX-1138Tokenbad - How much of the 80g is disk manufacturer math 1g versus 1024mbs?08:31
Subhumanjmitchj, jus push ALT+F2 and type mplayer in the box08:31
dark_lightTokenbad, you have to create manually another partition with size 33gb, after your 47gb partition08:31
appelzaWhat permissions should that have, and why isnt that done on install :|08:31
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der0bdfgas: does the vm have your sound card mapped?08:31
jmitchjdoesn;t work08:31
dfgasnot sure08:31
oskudeappelza: how did you start the program ?08:32
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dfgasalls i know is it says something about direct sound when i try to play winamp08:32
whadarhello, it seems that my ubuntu lost its sound ability (after an update i think)... i turned on all kinds of volumes in the alsa mixer and still nothing...08:32
sharperguyAstrophix, I dont think so, I know knoppix lets you do it, but not ubuntu08:32
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habeebsharperguy: Did that, not really fixed. What are these . and .. folders?08:32
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der0bdfgas: You need to make sure that in the setting of the virtual machine you have a sound card (and that sound card has to be working properly in linux if you want it to work on your vm)08:32
appelzaoskude: it was started automaticly after installed it08:32
AstrophixOk, that's what I needed to know, thanks :-)08:32
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highneko!easyubuntu08:32
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:32
StuartWSUHas anyone ever heard of outbound tcp connections to other IPs with a remote port greater than 1024 be blocked?  I have a machine here that I can connect outside to 983/tcp however if I run a webserver on, say, 8080 on another machine, connecting to it is impossible.  tcpdump shows the packets seemingly leave the machine, however nothing is returned and there is no selinux policy that I can see that is affecting this.  Booting into windoze on th08:32
StuartWSUe same machine, same mac, same ip and the connection to 8080/tcp works fine.  Any ideas?08:32
afiefsubhuman: typing mplayer doesn't do anything because mplayer itself has no GUI08:32
collierWhats the best IRC clinet for Ubuntu?????//08:32
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der0bdfgas: so just poke around in the virtual machines settings.08:33
dfgasder0b, in the vmx file?08:33
oskudeappelza: did you install it from ubuntu repos ?08:33
sharperguyhabeeb, . is youre current folder, and .. is the parent folder08:33
jticklecollier, if you're into graphical stuff, probably X-Chat08:33
jmitchjit's not even accessible thru "Open with"08:33
Subhumanafief, i always compile mplayeer with a gui08:33
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afiefjmitchj: alt+f2 -> gmplayer works for me08:33
Subhumanits stupid not too.08:33
appelzaYes08:33
whadarcollier: gaim08:33
jtickleyou seem to have the IRC problem covered at the moment though08:33
der0bdfgas: did you create the vm yourself?08:33
sharperguyhabeeb, its just if you want to cd up a level you do "cd .."08:33
albertoAlgum Fala Portugus ?08:33
appelzaexim4 btw08:33
habeebsharperguy: Didnt know these were actually hidden folders that could be shown with ls -a08:33
kyjacan two partitions of linux installs dual booting share one swap ?08:33
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habeebYeah, got that sharperguy08:33
collierwhadar: GAIM didnt work for me08:33
THX-1138!pt08:33
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.08:33
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dfgasder0b, yes08:33
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oskudeappelza: hmm, try "sudo /etc/init.d/exim4 restart" (or how its called)08:33
appelzajust tell me what permsions your /var/mail has and ill chown or something :/08:33
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afiefsubhuman: i don't think he compiled it himself. the default package comes with mplayer= CLI and gmplayer=GUI08:33
albertoGrato08:33
Tokenbaddark_light, how....how do I get that 37 gigs back08:33
appelzaI have.08:33
habeeb!gr08:33
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes08:33
whadaranyone else got that "no sound problem"... ?08:33
jmitchjafief: command not found08:34
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sharperguyhabeeb, u got the full amount of space now?08:34
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habeebsharperguy: moment.08:34
afiefjmitchj: install gmplayer08:34
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oskudeappelza: drwxr-xr-x08:34
dark_lightTokenbad, create another partition, or resize again your partition/fs to have that space back08:34
der0bdfgas: you'll have to open it in your vmware application (workstation, server, whatever) to edit the settings.  you can't edit a vm with the player08:34
habeebNo dammit :( sharperguy ...08:34
Focuz_re08:34
Focuz_hello all!08:34
habeebsharperguy: Still 680MB free08:34
sharperguywhats the max?08:34
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oskudeappelza: root:root08:34
habeebsharperguy: 100008:34
afiefTokenbad: use gparted, it works perfectly08:34
StuartWSUI just setup a webserver on a remote machine listening on 999/tcp.  I can connect to it no problem.  If I bind the remote webserver to 1000/tcp and try to connect - nothing.  Any idea why this would be blocked and where in the OS would it be blocked from?08:34
manuvcubewhere do i discuss security-related things about "edgy eft"?08:34
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sharperguyhabeeb, not sure why that is,08:35
appelzaand ur exim works?08:35
habeebsharperguy: I see :/08:35
sharperguyyou might have to reformat it08:35
habeebsharperguy: how?08:35
sharperguyI'm not sure whats the best way to do it08:35
oskudeappelza: i dont have exim...08:35
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sharperguybut ive used gparted in the past (a partition editor)08:35
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uppercutshow do i get divx support08:36
habeebWell, sharperguy that usb device is not on fstab. The mounted place is /mnt/<Some weird name>08:36
afiefsharperguy: why not just resize and move partitions in gparted? it worked seamlessly for me08:36
habeebsharperguy: no lies... /media/<Some weird name>08:36
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StuartWSUI just setup a webserver on a remote machine listening on 999/tcp.  I can connect to it no problem from my ubuntu machine both using http://remote:999 and telnet remote 999.  If I bind the remote webserver to 1000/tcp and try to connect - nothing.  Any idea why this would be blocked and where in the OS would it be blocked from?08:36
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sureshothow do i find out what version of glibc i have08:37
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sharperguyafief, its for jsut reformatting a usb drive to one big partition08:37
frojndhello there08:37
plutarchosI see in the ADSLPPPoE wiki that an ethernet card is, dare I say, required. There is no mention of using ADSL via a USB modem.08:37
highnekouppercuts: http://kb.gosi.at/6_11_en.html08:37
aeroSoulStuartWSU: did you restart the webserver?08:37
THX-1138!dsl08:37
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE08:37
sharperguyhabeeb, so its dosnt show up in gparted?08:37
ZaggynlI've got a bunch of avi files I want to make a dvd of, any nice software exists for that in Ubuntu?08:37
highnekouppercuts: Works for Kubuntu and Ubuntu.08:37
plutarchosTHX-1138, did you read my remark? I'm using a USB ADSL modem.08:37
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afiefsharperguy: doesn't he need to repartition anyway? sorry didn't know it's a usb08:37
habeebsharperguy: Installing gparted, moment. But well, not in fstab... Let me see what fstab will show.08:37
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frojndcan someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/ (last 3 lines during the firefox32 installation - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32)08:37
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Peter77how easy is it to upgrade drake to edgy on a 250k line?08:38
THX-1138plutarchos  /msg ubotu !usb08:38
plutarchos`pppoeconf` furthermore wants modconf which is unavailable in ubuntu - someone needs to address this in the next release.08:38
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sharperguyPeter77, as easy as anything else, it'll just take hours08:38
sureshothow do i find out what version of glibc i have08:38
StuartWSUaero: Yes, I bounced the remote webserver to make sure it was bound to 999/tcp and 1000/tcp respectively...  Also connected to the remote box via ssh and then did a telnet localhost to verify the web daemon was bound to the right ports.  however as I said, i go back to my local ubuntu box and try to connect with http://remote:999 or telnet remote 999 - works.  Same with with any port >=1000 and it drops the connection.08:38
ker0uacI just installed ubuntu on my laptop. How do I get into xwindows? startx and xconfig = command not found08:39
sharperguyPeter77, wait 250KB or Kb? (bits or bytes)08:39
Peter77sharperguy: is there a lot to upgrade (MBs)08:39
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ityow08:39
Peter77250 Kbits08:39
THX-1138putarchos - doesn't sound like the "It just works philosophy" - tried and rpm?08:39
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itanyone who has like 5 minutes to answer my n00bquestions?08:39
sharperguyPeter77, youre on a clean install its about 700MB but theres more to upgrade the more you have08:39
oskudeker0uac: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart08:39
habeebsharperguy: nothing on /dev/hdc which is my hd. But there is a /dev/sda which has a size of 235.33MB, which is (I think) the ammount of MB missing from the mp3.08:39
aeroSoulStuartWSU: you can't telnet to port 1000 from localhost?08:40
sharperguyweird08:40
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Peter77could edgy fix my battery monitor trouble?08:40
oskude!ask > it08:40
hoss_bertI managed to mess up my grub installation (described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270736). I'd really appreciated if anyone could help08:40
frojndcan someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/ (last 3 lines during the firefox32 installation - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32) ??08:40
Peter77also the live cd doesn't always monitor my battery levels08:40
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habeebFound it sharperguy ! /dev/sda1, is the usb!08:40
ker0uacoskude: command not found08:40
plutarchosTHX-1138, which RPM? What I need is a wiki on adsl which focuses on users of USB modems.08:40
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sharperguyhabeeb, nothing on /dev/hdc thats not good08:40
habeebsharperguy: /dev/sda1 on /media/SGTL MSCN type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)08:41
ker0uacoskude: is there something I need to download?08:41
oskudeker0uac: whan ubuntu did you install ?08:41
edgyHi, I installed edgy as chroot in dapper and when I try to play fgfs I got:08:41
edgyError: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8762, but08:41
edgythis client has the version 1.0-8774.  Please make sure that the kernel08:41
edgymodule and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.08:41
ker0uacoskude: I think it was the desktop.  IS there any way for me to verify?08:41
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THX-1138plutarchos - grab mdconf? and install alien to translate the package. -It doesn't sound likeany fun.08:41
oskudeker0uac: you didnt write anything on the cd ?08:41
ker0uacoskude: no08:41
jazzrockerok, i just read and followed the instructions in this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server and now i successfully have vmware-server connected to samba on my localhost. how do i add shares? where do i add them?08:42
habeebSo, I just have to format /dev/sda1, amirite sharperguy ?08:42
ker0uachow do I start xwindows? DO I first need to check to see whether it was installed?08:42
sharperguyyea08:42
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habeebsharperguy: how can I do this? ^_^08:42
plutarchosTHX-1138, all Greek to me mate. I fail to believe there isn't some simple approach 'wifi-fied' somewhere detailign the steps needed.08:42
jazzrockerker0uac, usually one of 'startx' or just 'X'08:42
Peter77hehe I used gparted before to re-partition my HDD08:42
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StuartWSUaero: i cant connect to http://remote:1000 (or greater than 1000) or telnet to remote 1000 (or greater than 1000) from my ubuntu box.   if i have a service on the remote host using a port < 1000, it works fine.08:42
oskudeker0uac: hmm... good question, but i think _you_ should know which cd image you used...08:42
Peter77Open Source rules08:42
jazzrockerker0uac, startx is usually a script to determine how to run 'X' iirc08:42
sureshotsorry all if you answered my question i was distracted helping my wife but how do i tell what version of glibc i have08:42
THX-1138 live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.08:43
aeroSoulStuartWSU: and did you try connecting to the port from the machine the server is running on?08:43
it2hi08:43
aeroSoulStuartWSU: when it's listening on port 1000 can you connect from the same machine?08:43
StuartWSUaero: i.e. loopback while on the remote host to make sure the server is running? yes.08:43
it2my damn windows opera browser crashed08:43
sharperguyhabeeb, like i said, i dont know the best way, but on gparted you just delete all partitions drom that drive, and make one big one (probably with fat32)08:43
starzim having problems changing the the premissions or some files on a harddrive while booting from a live cd. it just wont let me do it08:43
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it2anywayz, i'm here to get rid of it :p08:43
habeebHow can I format an external usb drive? The /dev file is /dev/sda108:43
aeroSoulStuartWSU: what do you see when you type "iptables -L" ?08:43
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habeebOk thanks, sharperguy . I'll ask for moar info in the channel, thanks!08:44
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pike_habeeb: mkfs.msdos /dev/sda1 for fat3208:44
ker0uacoskude: hmm, I just did sudo apt-get insall gdm08:44
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ker0uacoskude: is there anything more I'll need to do?08:44
habeebThat will erase the existing data, and will restore the mp3 player in its starting "form"?08:44
fuococan i use telepathy on dapper to have voip with google talk ?08:44
sureshothow do i find out what version of glibc i have08:44
oskudeker0uac: how should i know if i dont even know what you allready have ?08:45
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habeebThat will erase the existing data, and will restore the mp3 player in its starting "form"? pike_08:45
THX-1138it2 - Opera for linux doesn't run the way you want it to? - Opera is in the commercial non-free repository. 2 packages opera and libqt3-mt08:45
frojndok I am desperated (going to jump from roof :(08:45
frojndcan someone help me install firefox08:45
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pike_habeeb: you might want to check and make sure there are not files or dir the player needs on there but yes08:45
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buzzy-!mplayer08:45
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile08:45
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.08:45
it2i have this problem: i have a 80 gig hd that i use(d) as a data disk for windows, i partitioned it, and wanted to install ubuntu on an empty partition, now ubuntu has formatted the drive, and installed itself on the entire drive instead of just one partition, how can i make sure this won't happen again?08:45
oskudefrojnd: sudo apt-get install firefox08:45
marcrosoftHi, im trying to install vmware-player on ubuntu LTS, kernel: 2.6.15-27-k7, and it cannot seem to open vmmon or the vmnet... i think it has something to do with the kernel version, is there a way to fix this?08:46
frojndwell..08:46
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StuartWSUaero: on the local box? Nothing..   Its disabled - no rulesets defined.08:46
frojndoskude I don't wanna get 64bit08:46
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THX-1138buzzy - Hi,How are things going today?       !<item> > <nickname>08:46
frojndoskude: I tryed to install 32 bit08:46
kmaynardjmitchj: sorry, went afk for a few... try  gmplayer from the terminal. are you trying to manually play a file?08:46
frojndwith this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+3208:46
oskudefrojnd: youre on 64bit ubuntu and want 32bit firefox ?08:46
it2anyone?08:46
aeroSoulStuartWSU: which os are you using to connect?08:46
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sureshothow do i find out what version of glibc i have08:46
frojndoskude: 64bit kubuntu and yes08:47
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matt8806suomii'm looking for help with a telewell tw-ea200 that i have connected to my ubuntu desktop via usb, i need drivers, maybe or just help configuring it.   The telewell tw-ea200, is a usb ADSL modem08:47
aeroSoulStuartWSU: you already tried telnet form the remote machine, right?08:47
yellowit2:  when u install08:47
frojndoskude: I wanna get 32bit firefox08:47
oskudesureshot: if its libc6, check the version of that08:47
_eckobar_hello everybody08:47
yellowmake sure08:47
frojndcheck the link aboce..08:47
oskudefrojnd: ok, no idea :)08:47
frojndabove*08:47
yellowu select manual partitioning08:47
THX-1138it2 - there is an option the 4th in list to define partitions - you need / amd /swap08:47
frojndanyone herd for this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+3208:47
it2ok08:47
it2thx08:47
yellowyes it2 listen to Thx08:47
sureshotoskude i need the syntax on how to find out .. what version comes with dapper08:47
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aeroSoulStuartWSU: if you want i can try to connect to the host... to rule out that it's your client machine that is the problem08:48
oskudesureshot: manyways... apt-cache show libc608:48
it2so i need to allocate 1 partition for the swap, the other for /ald, right?08:48
oskudesureshot: dpkg -l | grep libc608:48
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buzzy-is there any cpu monitor in ubuntu?08:48
pike_buzzy-: top :)08:48
Neo8750habeeb: top ??08:48
Neo8750hmm where did the habeeb come from08:49
buzzy-ok08:49
StuartWSUaero: Yes.....  My local machine = ubuntu.  If I connect to my REMOTE machine via ssh - its fine.  when i login to the remote machine and telnet localhost 1000 the server comes up.... if i break the ssh connection and am thus returned back to my ubuntu box and then try to connect to remote on 1000, it hangs.08:49
THX-1138buzzy - yes in in administration or top or ps -e in the terminal08:49
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UKMatthey, I'm trying to convert something like a slide show into a a 10 second movie... or even create something from scratch in a program and don't know how to do it in ubuntu08:49
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pike_in fluxbox i use wmcpu or wmcpuload08:49
_eckobar_problem: want to install compiz, followed steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz but when i want to make apt-get install cms compiz compiz-gnome getting following output from apt: package not installable ... package destroyed (translated from german to englisch from the scratch...real english output differ.) can anybody help me??08:49
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buzzy-!fortran08:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fortran - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:49
kopermineHi guys who wants to help a beginner?08:49
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aeroSoulStuartWSU: on which ip is the webserver listening?08:50
Zaggynlkopermine, what's up08:50
Neo8750kopermine: depends on what you need help with08:50
StuartWSUaero: you wont be able to get to it08:50
sureshotoskude thanks i am new at this so i am trying just needed that info for anoter instalation08:50
oskudeUKMatt: hmm, dunno if openoffice can export video, but would be cool...08:50
aeroSoulStuartWSU: you can see it with "netstat -anp | grep 1000" or grep apache08:50
kopermineI need to access my HD from the ubuntu live cd08:50
oskudesureshot: np08:50
UKMattoskude, well by slideshow all i mean is that its a short basic movie, nothing complex08:50
koperminefor some reason it only sees my usb hd08:50
aeroSoulStuartWSU: maybe it is only listening on a local ip08:50
it2ow, now i restarted windows, and i have 1 partition left, it's an empty drive, shoul i partition it in windows or in ubuntu now?08:50
aeroSoulStuartWSU: ok sry.. then it wouldnt work on port 99908:51
StuartWSUaero: nope because if i take my local ubuntu machine and boot it into windows it works fine. (dual boot)08:51
oskudeUKMatt: hmm, never wanted to do that, but im sure there are tools, atleast for commandline...08:51
StuartWSUaero: Thats the thing - it does though08:51
jmitchjCan someone help me with setting up a wireless connection?08:51
UKMattoskude, i've been looking and can't find anything08:51
TyggerBobHey all. wonder if anyone has any ideas as to what's going wrong for me.  I have an SMC 2532w pcmcia wireless card that doesn't get loaded properly.. I want to use hostap vice orinoco, which seems to be the default.  the hostap module builds fine and, as long as it's the first time after a kernel rebuild, it works fine, but the next time, it won't work .  If I do an iwconfig, it shows the wifi0, but hangs for a bit and then doesn't show08:51
TyggerBobthe wlan0.  I've scoured the net for ideas, but if someone here has any, I'd love to hear them.  Thanks in advance.08:51
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dfgasder0b, nothing shows up in windows for device08:52
oskudeUKMatt: mencoder and transcode (and many other terminal tools) can do videos from images08:52
ker0uacI just downloaded and installed gdm08:52
ker0uacxconfig doesn't work08:52
ker0uacneither does startx08:52
ker0uacis there something I am missing?08:52
oskudeker0uac: install "ubuntu-desktop"08:52
THX-1138jmitchj: Did the GUI Aystem .. Admin .. networking configure it?08:52
UKMattoskude, hmm well what about this, looking through open office it says I can export as .swf, can that be saved onto and played on a DVD?08:52
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oskudeUKMatt: not as dvd video08:53
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oskudeUKMatt: so you want to do dvd video ?08:53
ker0uacoskude: is that the whole cd?08:53
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jmitchjit says activated, but i can;t access08:53
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oskudeker0uac: what cd ?08:54
UKMattoskude, I want to create a short... like 2 picture w/ transition clip and burn it to a dvd08:54
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aeroSoulStuartWSU: dont know what the problem is, maybe iptables rules on your client machine? i'd try port forwarding... to redirect port 1000 to port 999 or something =)08:54
oskudeUKMatt: and be able to play that wiht a regular dvd player ?08:54
UKMattoskude, yeah08:54
ornHi. Is there a tool to detect the settings of a new monitor in ubuntu?08:54
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oskudeUKMatt: i think transcode and mencoder can do that too, there are even tools to make dvd (video) menus...08:54
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jmitchjTHX-1138: as soon as i close The network settings window and come back it;s deactivated again08:55
THX-1138UKMatt - Take a peek at mplayer or mencoder. - Will those do?08:55
kopermineany idea guys? my xp crashed and trying to restore some files through ubuntu08:55
bluefox83how do you get your computer's ip from terminal while behind a router?08:55
UKMattdon't know anything about mencoder, limme look08:55
aeroSoulStuartWSU: maybe another service listening on port 1000?08:55
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bluefox83ifconfig is returning the ip the router dishes out08:55
pike_kopermine: sudo fdisk -l"08:55
oskudebluefox83: ifconfig08:55
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THX-1138jmitchij - Ok, i am a bit new but can help you gather more info. sudo lspci    sudo lsmod08:56
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oskudebluefox83: you wanted the ip of your computer08:56
pike_kopermine: without the "08:56
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Vornotronokay.  automated CD burning requires that I use cdrecord.  (is this a correct statement?  or is there a wrapper that handles things for me?)  I've got a cdrecord HOWTO from http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html , but it's six years old, mentions considerable voodoo, and I can't tell how much of it would be done for me in a modern distribution.  So question is:  how much easier is it to burn CDs now than it was then?08:56
UKMattthx-1138, oskude, does mencoder have a GUI?  I have the package installed (probably for tovid)08:56
jstarcherhow do I get the size of a directory? Like read the size of everything inside from command line?08:56
oskudeUKMatt: dunno, but i doubt08:56
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bluefox83oskude, somehow an ip starting with 172 does nto sound like a real internet ip08:57
habeebHmm, who told me the way to format that usb mp3 player? I think I just screwed it up ^_^08:57
oskudebluefox83: 172 ? hmm...08:57
anon32whoa, traffic prioritization is sweet!08:57
THX-1138UKMatt - I have only played with it. - not familiar with tovid.08:57
bluefox83oskude, yes..as in a router's defined ip08:57
pike_kopermine: if the drive or partition shows up it will be something like /dev/hda1 you would mount it like sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda108:58
caseyomahHow do I make wine start Windows Executables when I double-click?08:58
jmitchjTHX-1138: What do i do with all that info?08:58
THX-1138anon32 - conntrack - nerdy fun rofl08:58
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bluefox83oskude, my freind needs me to ssh into his machine and fix his X config, but we can't get his real ip08:58
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oskudebluefox83: on default, (mostly) you get a 192.168.x.x ip from routers dhcp08:58
habeebpike_: Well, have a few problems... The device is still recognised by the PC. But, it doesnt show the menus etc...08:58
vanisherbluefox83: www.whatismyip.com08:58
bluefox83vanisher, from TERMINAL08:58
habeebpike_: It just shows the "splash screen" when you open the mp3 player, and then nothing.. It stucks there.08:59
oskudebluefox83: there you need the ip of the friends router, not the computers ip...08:59
bluefox83as in no X, no way to use a browser08:59
koperminepike_:then i still don't see the partitions from ubuntu08:59
TyggerBobguess no one has any ideas, eh?08:59
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TyggerBobThanks anyway.08:59
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koperminepike_:suspect a corrupt hybernate file08:59
vanisherlynx www.whatismyip.com08:59
oskudebluefox83: there are web browsers allso for terminal...08:59
aeroSoulbluefox83: he could use bitchx and come to irc... there you see his ip =)08:59
caseyomahbluefox83: lynx.08:59
jstarcherhow do I get the size of a directory? Like read the size of everything inside from command line?08:59
pike_habeeb: try mkfs.vfat /dev/sda108:59
bluefox83aeroSoul, he's in irssi and i still get the wrong ip09:00
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oskudejstarcher: du09:00
THX-1138jmitchj - copy and paste wifi info to a note. paste the note to pastebin most here know a lot more than i.09:00
bluefox83so what.. lynx www.whatismyip.com?09:00
anon32jstarcher try ls -l09:00
habeebAnd now pike_ ?09:00
oskudejstarcher: "du -h" to make it "human" readable09:00
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habeebpike_: $ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb09:00
habeebmount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock09:00
krazykiti can't kill this process... i've done kill -9 as root, too...09:00
caseyomahbluefox83: Yep.09:00
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Justm3hey, plz help me with this stuff:09:00
Justm3I got the cds of Ubuntu today so i booted from the cd. I tried Ubuntu then decided to install it.09:00
Justm3When i reached the Partition Step (Step 5), i was confused . I selected manually edit partition table.09:00
Justm31. I want to install Ubuntu on the last partition (sda7) it is 20GB Fat32, is this fine for the installation?09:00
Justm32. I can resize that partition so that i can get 500 MB for swap partition, but what i want to know is how do i select it to be a swap partition (do i select "linux-swap" in the filesystem dropdown)?09:00
Justm33. Why is it showing the first partition (sda1) as the a boot lba (and what does boot lba mean?), would it affect my Win XP installation?09:00
THX-1138jmitchj > !paste09:00
Justm34. Ok, then i move on to the next step.09:00
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Justm3Where every partition is set as "/media/sda#"09:01
Justm3should i change "/media/sda7" to "/"?09:01
oskude!enter09:01
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.09:01
Justm35. When selecting the swap partition in the same step as above, should i select the swap partition as "/swap"?09:01
oskude!paste09:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:01
Vornotron(also I'm having trouble with screen resolution, but I haven't gotten around to looking up the documentation for that job)09:01
jmitchj!paste09:01
caseyomahbluefox83: If that doesn't work you can apt-get install lynx09:01
jstarcheroskude, du? heh never heard of that before, thanks, I'll give it a shot!09:01
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plutarchosWhat's the quickest way to find VP/VC values for an ADSL connection?09:01
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pike_habeeb: hmm try unplugging it and turing it off /on09:01
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jstarcheranon32, yeah that will show the files size but not directory sizes :-(09:01
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SeanTater!paste > Justm309:01
vanisherbluefox83 lynx is a text based browser09:01
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oskudejstarcher: "man du" > "du - estimate file space usage"09:02
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jstarcherls09:02
bluefox83vanisher, yes yes..i know09:02
Justm3thx ubotu09:02
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jmitchjso once i paste it...then what?09:03
THX-1138plutarchos - This is rough. It will get easier. - What is VP/VC?  - will netstat or ifconfig help?09:03
benaocaz_soi el ligon y estoy falde09:03
vanisherjmitchj: patste the link here09:03
benaocaz_qien se atreve09:03
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jstarcheroskude, whoa, that just throws out a size of all the files inside it. I want to know the total size of everything within a specific directory. I'll read the man real quick to see if I can do that with du09:03
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habeebpike_: nothing.. But let me try another time.. btw, whats the chance that it completely fucked up?09:04
paolobHi guys! is there in ubuntu a software to manage a little sale point?09:04
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jmitchjhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25682/09:04
habeebI got this error pike_ : mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock09:04
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pike_jstarcher: du -ach directory the last line will have a total you can even pipe it through grep and just get that line09:04
oskudejstarcher: look at the very last entry, what does it show ?09:04
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yellowhey guys09:04
[Jonne] I can't start Konqueror and Amarok. I have the Gnome desktop, and I think it's related to XGL. Can somebody help?09:05
pike_habeeb: what kind of mp3 player?09:05
smyruHi, can I build a *.deb binary from an installed package? I mean I have f.e. zip installed in the system, and I want to package it to .deb. A reverse action to installing from .deb. Is there any tool to do that?09:05
oskudejstarcher: but you can use "-hs" to show only that last entry09:05
koperminepike_: any ideas left?09:05
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habeebpike_: an unknown one, from a local company. It was acting entirely as an external hard drive, because I started screwing up..09:05
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jstarcheroskude, yeah it does show the directories but there are a lot of files and it's hard to find them all with so much outputting09:06
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habeebActually pike_ , before that format command you gave me, I could enter songs, I just had 400MB of unused space wasted, without a reason.09:06
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pike_kopermine: sorry09:06
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habeebpike_: (not blaming you of course.)09:06
jmitchjnow wait for someone to look at it?09:06
oskudejstarcher: you did want to know how much a dir is using space ?09:06
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jstarcheroskude, yea09:07
oskudejstarcher: so wheres the problem ?09:07
jstarcheroskude, It's just showing me too much lol, I want to see just the directorys on the screen09:07
vanisherjmitchj: indeed ;-) what is your problem, paste that together with the link09:07
jstarcherahhh I got it09:07
jstarcherit shows it right09:07
benaocaz_qie qiere ligar desde benaocaz09:07
jeevesbondHello, am attempting to compile Wine from source (in Edgy), but it always segfaults due to this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/56965 (which neither party seem willing to fix). To workaround the bug I need to add '-fno-stack-protector' to my CFLAGS. Where are CFLAGS defined? In Gentoo they seem to be stored in /etc/make.conf, but in the Ubuntu Edgy environment that file does not exist?!09:08
jstarcherpike_, thanks, worked great09:08
jmitchjI can;t get my Wireless to work on my laptop...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25682/09:08
jstarcheroskude, thanks for the help, I appreciate ti09:08
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habeebpike_: any ideas? :/09:08
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oskudejeevesbond: i assume those are normal environment variables, so you set them like in the terminal09:09
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oskudejeevesbond: see "./configure --help"09:09
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jeevesbondAhhh, ok great! Thanks for the help oskude!09:09
pike_habeeb: format should be fat32 you might try formatting it in windows..09:10
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oskudejeevesbond: or you can manually add them to the "Makefile"09:10
habeebpike_: which I dont have... I cant format it in Linux? And the menus etc, will be restored? :/09:10
jeevesbondHmmm, I think Wine has piles of makefiles... :D09:11
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pike_habeeb: you should be able to yes09:11
habeebpike_: 22:11 < pike_> habeeb: you should be able to yes09:11
THX-1138jeevesbond - vitamin #winehq is an encyclopedia.09:11
habeeboops :P09:11
habeebpike_: what about: " mkfs.msdos -F 32 /dev/xxx"09:11
jstarcheroskude and pike_, fyi the "-s" argument was what I wanted09:11
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jstarcherjust a summary :-P09:12
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pike_habeeb: there wasnt any other files in that partition  before you formatted?09:12
oskudejstarcher: did i say that ? ;)09:12
jeevesbondOh, I see. But there is one overriding one. Thanks guys09:12
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habeebpike_: I couldnt check it out. But well, the /media/usb which was mounted on, was completely empty.09:12
pike_habeeb: you could try that depending on the player09:12
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pike_habeeb: wont hurt anything :)09:13
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jstarcheroskude, ohahha I missed that message, sorry09:13
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cipher_nemoHow do I logout and close X in ubuntu?09:14
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habeebTried fat32 with that command I gave you pike_ , still endless splash screen and nothing more...09:14
vanisherctrl-backspace? ;-)09:14
habeebbtw, I cant mount it... Because of "bad superblock" any ideas?09:14
ChickenTalonshabeeb = your HD is going back to allah09:14
pike_habeeb: try taking battery out and replacing09:14
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dredhammerhello all does gnomebaker 0.6.0 have overburn options in it? Went to the support forums and saw this screenshot http://static.flickr.com/30/91544734_53c7c99d90_o.png09:15
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habeebChickenTalons: What do you mean, sir?09:15
jstarcheryou know how when you do "cd .." it brings you up a directory? Is there a way to go up two or three at a time?09:15
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dredhammerbut when i compiled the latest version i don't have the overburn option09:15
cipher_nemoHow do I logout and --close-- X in ubuntu?09:15
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pike_jstarcher: cd ../ for back one or ../../ for two etc09:16
ChickenTalonshabeeb, cmon man, that couldnt be that hard to understand.09:16
oskudeLlewxam: what happens when you run "sudo /etc/init.d/hdm restart" ?09:16
vanisherjstarcher: cd .. cd ../..09:16
oskudeLlewxam: what happens when you run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" ? (sorry typo)09:16
jstarchernice, thanks guys!09:16
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Llewxamoskude: the same thing that always happens. after hte login page i get a black screen.09:16
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jstarcherlinux is sooo nice09:16
habeebChickenTalons: Actually, what HD are you talking about? :/09:16
jstarcherscrew windows forever09:16
jmitchjIs anyone able to help me activate my wireless connection on my laptop?...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25682/09:17
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vanisherjstarcher: sorry mate MS flightsim is not running yet ;-)09:17
HizerAnyone know of any good free web hosting that support MySQL and Php?09:17
oskudeLlewxam: do you see any errors with "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"09:17
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ChickenTalonshabeeb, the one with the bad superblock. Someone must have fatwah'd on it09:17
cipher_nemoHow do I logout and --close-- X in ubuntu? (should be a simple question and answer) :(09:17
der0bomg, why have I been terrified of setting up cron jobs??   crontab -e just makes it so easy!  ack..  what a fool!09:17
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jstarchervanisher, you mean it's not on *nix yet?09:17
oskudeHizer: if you find one, please let me know too ;)09:17
Llewxamoskude: not with that but i found some errors with xauth.09:18
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habeebThats my poor usb mp3 player ChickenTalons09:18
habeebAnd yes I fucked it up ^_^09:18
oskudeLlewxam: ah, interestin, what ?09:18
HizerI thought about using HostUltra but I hear it is a horrid service.09:18
ChickenTalonshabeeb, someone must have declared a jihad on it b/c of your poor taste in music09:18
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jeevesbondcipher_nemo: There should be a little icon on the top-right I think. A little door and an arrow09:18
Paddy_EIREcipher_nemo: either use the quit button on the top panel far left, or System > Quit09:18
pike_jmitchj: have you tried sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`   yet? the `` arent quotes09:19
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cipher_nemojeevesbond: but this will just get me back to a login screen for gnome/X... I want command line09:19
habeebChickenTalons: I'm in a quite sensitive situation right now, no religious things at this moment, please :P09:19
Llewxamto make it simple it says i got an error in locking new authority, fatal server error: server is already active for display 009:19
[SilverTest09:19
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jeevesbondYou can go down a runlevel or two using the 'init' command09:19
habeebWhat is the superblock error btw ChickenTalons ?09:20
oskudeLlewxam: hmm, do you have kdm/kde running ? (or even xdm)09:20
TokenbadI forgot who I was talking to about the drive problem...plumber showed up and had to go deal with that09:20
jonah1980hi can anyone help me upload a file with gftp, it'll only let me access the site with the http protocol, but won't let me upload anything, but i can download09:20
jeevesbondOr if you want to leave X running in the background press: ctrl-alt-F209:20
Llewxamoskude: none of the above. only gnome.09:20
jeevesbondOr ctrl-alt-F309:20
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Tokenbadoskude, and pike_ I know was helping but not sure whoelse09:20
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Tokenbadbut back to my problem...09:20
jeevesbondAnd so on...09:20
vanishercipher_nemo: ctrl-backspace?09:20
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TokenbadI ran fsck on the drive...it fixed part of the space problem that gparted did...but need to find a way to get the rest of the space back09:21
oskudeLlewxam: well, something is running allready if xauth says... or is that maybe an old message ?09:21
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habeebpike_: If I return it back (its on guarantee) will they be able to restore it?09:21
Llewxamit's what i got after typing startx, and it's the same message i get.09:22
pike_habeeb: if you do that admit nothing :)09:22
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oskudeLlewxam: you should not use startx!09:22
pike_habeeb: it just doesnt work you dont know why.  whats a linux? etc09:22
jmitchjpike: I hadn;t tried that, but am trying now09:22
jeevesbondvanisher: Seems he might have pressed some of those buttons we told him about... Waits for 'Connetion reset by peer' message :)09:22
habeebhaha09:22
habeebOk pike_09:22
sharperguygdm09:22
Tokenbadoskude, any idea where I can find the space that it is saying is used even though its not?09:22
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vanisherjeevesbond: yess, guess he managed to get to the cli09:23
jmitchjpike: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic is already the newest version.09:23
jmitchj0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:23
bluefox83doesn't X create a file someplace when it starts up X to prevent multiple X sessions from being started?09:23
habeebThat evil uncle screwed it up, pike_  >:09:23
Llewxam>.<' k... well i just want to fix this.09:23
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[SBM] Hizerwww.freewebs.com/silverbulletmonks09:23
oskudeTokenbad: the last time you said cfdisk has a 77gb partition and a 2gb partitions, so that makes 80gb...09:23
[SBM] HizerWhat do you think of that layout?09:23
harisund_has anybody successfully Yahoo! music videos in Ubuntu? What have they used?09:23
ubuntu__hi guys09:23
jstarcherwhats up09:23
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stealth_hey guys, I just installed kubuntu edgy. Turns out I don't like KDE as much as Gnome. Is there a way to replace kubuntu with ubuntu w/o reinstalling?09:23
vanisher[SMB] Hizer, way to dar09:23
vanisherdark09:23
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jstarcherstealth_ iirc there is09:24
ubuntu__stealth_,  i think u can09:24
habeebpike_: so that, "superblock" error, is not fixable?09:24
ubuntu__stealth_,  look in adept09:24
heanol_question..09:24
ubuntu__for ubuntu-desktop09:24
jmitchjpike_: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic is already the newest version.09:24
jmitchj0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:24
oskudeLlewxam: i would recommend restarting the pc and looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues09:24
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dredhammerdoes the latest gnomebaker have overburn in it?09:24
pike_habeeb: it is but you need some more info on your mp3 player maybe there is no reason you cant reformat the partition and have it work09:24
cipher_nemoHow do I close gnome/x and get to a command prompt? (no, logout does not close x, I want to quit x completely)09:24
heanol_i have hda,sda,sdb,sdc,sdd,sde.. what hd should grub install to?09:24
stealth_I know you would install ubuntu with ubuntu-desktop, but removing kubuntu-desktop is the trickier thing isn't it?09:24
jstarcherstealth_ In synaptic you can remove it09:24
heanol_i have hda,sda,sdb,sdc,sdd,sde.. i would like grub to install to sde, what hd should grub install to?09:24
Llewxamoskude: precisely what should i look for in the log?09:24
SinnerGa Bind Q: is it possible to include every file in a certain folder? like include "/some/path/*.bind" ? Anyone knows? I cant test it atm and nobody answered me on #bind the whole day :p09:25
ubuntu__stealth_,  i installed kubuntu from ubuntu , if that makes sense09:25
ubuntu__;)09:25
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oskudecipher_nemo: gnome runs in "ctrl+alt+f7" f1-f6 are consoles...09:25
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buzzy-!floppy09:25
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone09:25
oskudeLlewxam: normally its an [EE]  in the beginning of a line09:25
Llewxamk i'll try that and come back09:25
cipher_nemooskude: I don't want x running at all... how do consoles help me?09:25
oskudecipher_nemo: so you dont really have to close gnome to get to the console09:26
ubuntu__!snort09:26
ubotusnort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 347 kB, installed size 824 kB09:26
pike_jmitchj: sorry not any more advise other than searching ubuntuforums.org for your card maybe09:26
cipher_nemooskude: no, I don't want a terminal window09:26
oskudecipher_nemo: ok, then go to console and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"09:26
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cipher_nemooskude: ty!09:26
vanishercipher_nemo: set your runlevel to 309:26
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ubuntu__any1 installed XGL here?09:27
oskudecipher_nemo: and i didnt say anthing about a terminal window, i said going to console with "ctrl+alt+f1"09:27
pike_!xgl > ubuntu__09:28
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jstarcherIs there a way to show how much of you swap is being used? It doesn't show it in df09:28
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ubuntu__pike_, ty09:28
jeevesbondcipher_nemo: Open a terminal and type 'init 3' (think that works from a terminal window)--as vanisher recommended.09:28
oskudejstarcher: free09:28
jstarcherthx09:28
oskudejstarcher: free -m (for megabytes)09:29
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jeevesbond"<- cipher_nemo has disconnected (Remote closed the connection)" I suppose that worked then...09:30
jstarcherwhoa!09:30
jstarcherlooks like I should get some more ram on my server09:30
jstarcher256mb and 246 is used09:30
jstarcher-_-09:31
jeevesbondYes ubuntu__ I have xgl09:31
oskudejstarcher: uninstall gnome & co in server...09:31
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ubuntu__jeevesbond, kool , any improvment in performance or anything?09:31
oskudejstarcher: actually theres even an iso for server isntallation09:31
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habeebpike_: I'll annoy you some more, sorry. After a reboot I got some changes. First of all, /dev/sda1 dissapeared and /dev/sda took its place, and I got these errors: http://pastebin.ca/191198 . Check them out, in case something changed, if you'd like.09:32
jstarcheroskude, it's not ubuntu on that rig, it's slackware :-P09:32
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earthianhello09:32
earthianmy PPP is spaming my copnsole :(09:32
earthianconsole*09:32
pike_jstarcher: i run xubuntu on 256 and and its my server and media box09:32
earthianhow to stop that?09:32
jeevesbondubuntu__: Performance? Well everyone who owns an ATI card is waiting for them to release drivers so we wont need XGL anymore :)09:32
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ubuntu__jeevesbond,  aah ok, well u see i have crappy intel onboard card09:33
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jstarcherpike_: yeah I dunno why it's all used up? Is there a way to show what pid's are using it?09:33
jeevesbondIf you want XGL performance, get an nVidia card and you wont need to run XGL at all. :)09:33
ubuntu__earthian,  hi09:33
Lard-O-Laddoes the ubuntu livecd run any daemons?09:33
earthianhi09:33
jeevesbondAhhhh, I know how you feel mate09:33
Ander_hi09:33
plutarchosjstarcher, you wouldn't know a trick for finding the VP/VC value (ADSL etc) would you? I happen to be connected presently via a USB ADSL modem on WinXP - any files here which can be analysed?09:33
ubuntu__earthian,  try network-admin as root or gksu network-admin09:33
earthianmy ATI uses fglrx? is that the same as XGL?09:33
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oskudeLard-O-Lad: propably09:33
ubuntu__Lard-O-Lad,  yep they do09:33
earthianwhat i will see there ubuntu__ ?09:33
oskudeearthian: no09:34
ubuntu__earthian,  net control options :)09:34
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jstarcherplutarchos, nope, sorry09:34
Lard-O-Ladi have a PC without a monitor, does the Live CD run a ssh server/ftpd?09:34
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pike_habeeb: lets just do sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and then delete sda1 and select write and then recreate it and write and then quit and then mkfs.vfat /dev/sda109:34
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ubuntu__Lard-O-Lad,  ssh =yes, ftp = no09:34
oskudeLard-O-Lad: not automaticly09:34
jstarcheroskude: hmm why is it not showing the correct amounts when I do free -m?09:34
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plutarchosjstarcher, no problem - next quickie, I've selected my rather basic Lexmark printer (parallel port connected) from the printer config on Ubuntu... yet it isn't adding.09:35
Lard-O-Ladoskude09:35
oskudejstarcher: it doesnt ? how do you know ?09:35
plutarchosjstarcher, liveCD version. Is this a known problem? Or will it only work on the installed version?09:35
earthianubuntu__, where should i look exactly? i am sorry but i do not know what causes the sapmming in console :(09:35
jstarcheroskude: it says I'm using almost all 2gb on my worksation, but krellm says I'm not even using a gig09:35
jeevesbondearthian: No, fglrx is the proprietary driver from ATI. XGL is some malarky that allows Beryl to work09:35
Tokenbadoskude, well after ran fsck to try and fix what qparted did....it now says have a 47 gig drive with like 15 gigs free09:35
earthianspamming*09:35
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earthianthanks jeevesbond :)09:35
oskudejstarcher: hmm...09:35
pike_jstarcher: ubuntu's going to use whatever available ram you have for stuff free doesnt really give you a good idea it would look like you needed more if you had 512 and typed free09:35
kothzlinux memory management is a bit obscure to mere mortals.  It'll use up all its ram, without freeing it.09:36
Tokenbadoskude, so now its missing like 30 gigs09:36
MouldyHey all! I'm having a problem reading floppies, I put it in and have no way of accessing them. Any fix for this?09:36
habeebActually pike_ , its 1GB of free space, nothing inside.09:36
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pike_jstarcher: although with gnome you do prob need more09:36
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habeeb   Name        Flags      Part Type  FS Type          [Label]         Size (MB)09:36
habeeb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------09:36
habeeb                            Pri/Log   Free Space                         992.9309:36
Dr_willisMouldy,  try mountign them manually09:36
it2yow, anyone who knows how i can partition my harddrive in ubuntu?09:36
oskudeTokenbad: sorry, im tired to start explaining partitions atm...09:36
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jeevesbondBeryl does funky effects on your desktop (it's/was also known as compiz)...Just in case you didn't know09:36
MouldyDr_willis, how? mount /media/floppy0?09:36
earthianomfg!!! o_O09:36
earthianMem:       1033564    1003052      3051209:36
Dr_willisit2,  gparted, or the othe rfdisking tools09:36
earthiantotal used free09:37
earthian^^09:37
earthianomg i am out of mem09:37
earthian:/09:37
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it2ty dr willis09:37
oskudejstarcher: well, i usually trust free more than kgrellm...09:37
Dr_willisMouldy,  mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0   (or similer line)09:37
jstarcherpike_: it's slackware.....09:37
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pike_jstarcher: same principal09:37
it2wow damn, my system restarted and i get this msg: grub loading, plz wait errror 1709:37
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it2anyone?09:38
jstarcheroskude: I don't....theres nothing running to use that much ram. Gnome system monitor says the same as krellm too09:38
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jstarcherpike_: yeah, I'm not running any WM on that rig09:38
jstarcherjust CL09:38
suff0katehow come when i do tsocks gaim it won't let me connect anymore everything is set up right09:38
MouldyDr_willis, Ok, I tried that, the drive made a bit of noise and then terminal said "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"09:38
kothzYour OS will manage the RAM.  It won't necessarily free it.09:38
oskudejstarcher: hmm, so you got 2gb ram and how much swap ?09:38
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it2help help09:39
Dr_willisMouldy,  its worth wile learning how to manually mount things.. :P if its a dos floppy use -t fat09:39
jstarcheroskude: yes 2gb ram and 2gb swap09:39
it2grub loading error 17, anyone who knows this?09:39
Dr_willisMouldy,  mount -t fat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy009:39
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habeebpike_: Since its just empty space should I create a sda1? :/09:39
THX-1138 kthz - Had you seen "linux swappiness" discussed on th 'Net?09:39
it2i get this immediatly afetr startup09:39
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pike_habeeb: write the changes then create sda1 and write again and quit09:39
MouldyDr_willis, Yeah, I managed to get it working using -t vfat (is there a difference between that and fat?) I was also assuming that ubuntu could just mount them automatically? Is there a way to do that rather than doing it manually all the time?09:40
it2looks like i can't even acces my bios09:40
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Dr_willisMouldy,  its supposed to mount them.. i recall finding the floppy in the media stuff and rightclick/mounting them.. but i dont mess with them much09:40
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jstarcheroskude: gnome system monitor says I'm using 820mb ram and 20mb swap09:40
=== kothz snickers. I manage linux farms. :) Tuning swappy is my life. :)
Dr_willisMouldy,  the # of floppys i use a year < 2 :)09:41
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Dr_willisThis is the only machine i got out of like 9 that has a floppy.09:41
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Demo1evening all09:41
Jowiit2: how many harddisks do you have? what type of harddisks (IDE or SATA)?09:41
oskudejstarcher: hmm, system monitor says 178 ram used here, and free says 178mb too ...09:41
highnekoHow can I get rid of the window outlines when minimizing? I found some information about removing the outline when programs are started, but not for minimizing.09:41
habeebpike_: sda1 will be bootable?09:41
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pike_habeeb: yeah flag it bootable09:41
MouldyDr_willis, even so, would have thought technology as old as floppy drives would "just work" :p09:41
oskudejstarcher: -/+ buffers/cache:        17809:41
Dr_willishighneko,  yep - i find that annoying also.. but the gnome guys dont like to give us too many options.09:41
it2jowi: i have 2 hd's 1 10 gig with ms installed, a 80 gb with ubuntu on it09:42
oskudejstarcher: and swap used is the same too :/09:42
it2both are ata09:42
Demo1anyone here got a problem I can attempt to help with? (I am over due to help some people)09:42
it2ide09:42
Dr_willisMouldy,  the system really dosetn have a method to realize the floppy has changed.. DOS sort of faked it.. and windows i think just constantly scans..09:42
Dr_willisMouldy,  or at least i think thats how it works.09:42
THX-1138jstarcher - Do you have a server installed?09:42
Dr_willisMouldy,  learning to MOUNT things yourself is the best idea. the auto-mounting stuff just causes more hassles.09:42
habeebI created the partition but there is no /dev/sda1 pike_09:42
blablaDemo1, you have one09:43
StAfZe6hello09:43
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pike_habeeb: what did it call it?09:43
Dr_willisMouldy,  also umount the floppy befor removing it09:43
Jowiit2: if you can do this in bios, change the boot order of the harddisks. if you can not, physically change the order of them.09:43
str47hey09:43
StAfZe6no09:43
jstarcherTHX-1138, yes09:43
str47?09:43
it2ok, thx09:43
MouldyDr_willis, What happens if I don't (umount)? Corrupt data or something?09:43
Jowiit2: wait09:43
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habeebpike_: I called it "sda1" and it appears alright in cfdisk /dev/sda09:43
it2i can't acces the bios, so i'll fysicly change the order09:43
jstarcheroskude: appearently the +/- thing is the real number09:43
Demo1mmm apparently so blabla09:43
oskudejstarcher: yup09:43
habeebBut there isnt a sda1 in the /dev directory pike_09:43
Jowiit2: can you see grub at all?09:43
jstarcheroskude, cool thanks09:43
pike_habeeb: now after exiting cfdisk type mkfs.vfat /dev/sda109:43
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habeebpike_: That sda1, was a partition right?09:44
it2what is grub?09:44
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Demo1it209:44
habeebBut there is no /dev/sda1 pike_  :309:44
Demo1grub is grand unified bootloader09:44
zool2005evenin all09:44
THX-1138jstarcher - 1.2g here and no swapfile usage. - wondering if apache always uses swap. google "linux swappiness" good explanation and tweaks09:44
pike_habeeb: yeah sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda109:44
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Justy-hi =)09:44
Jowiit2: the boot manager. you can select which kernel to use or boot windows for example09:44
it2nope09:44
jstarcheroskude & pike_: only 108mb used on the slackware server after all :-D09:44
it2can't see it09:44
habeebpike_: /dev/sda1: No such file or directory09:44
whysocan most games run in wine?09:44
Dr_willisMouldy,  or worse. :)09:44
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Jowiit2: so switch the order of the disks. see if that helps09:44
Justy-question: I have a sda hdd which has a format of NTFS09:44
pike_habeeb: did you write changes before exiting cfdisk?09:44
it2ok, i'll try09:45
Dr_williswhyso,  SOME games can run with wine09:45
Demo1can't see what it2?09:45
Jowiit2: why can't you access BIOS btw?09:45
zool2005is it possible to do a minimal install of ubuntu to use on an old laptop? I want to choose my own packages to avoid bloat09:45
MouldyDr_willis, oh noes! :o Either way though, it's a bit daft that a user-friendly distro like ubuntu can't handle floppys :p09:45
habeebYes, and now when I do "cfdisk /dev/sda" the partition appears alright.09:45
Justy-question: I go to SystemAdmin.Disk manager09:45
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bluefox83anyone familiar with the synaptics kernel module?09:45
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jstarcherTHX-1138, interesting09:45
it2i can acces bios09:45
habeebBut it was saying something about "couldnt read it , reboot first" or something. I'll reboot.09:45
it2srry, didn't see09:45
jstarcherTHX-1138, 1.2g of 2g?09:45
jstarcherfor u?09:45
whysoah ok, trying to decide weather or not to dual boot; do the majority of newer ones?09:45
it2so i'll swap the master and slave, right?09:45
Dr_willisMouldy,  go research the history of the floppy and linux befor you start passing judgement.. and as far as i know - it DOES work fine for my system09:45
pike_habeeb: ok unplug it and replug then try the command again09:45
THX-1138whyso - The more they utilise cd copy protection or directx the less likely it will run as just point and click install. - take a peek at cedega.09:45
Justy-question: then it enables /tmp/sdablablabla and i can access there ONLY with root privilages09:45
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habeebAw ok pike_09:45
Jowiit2: oh, but not change the boot order from there? I see.09:46
whysook thanks09:46
baconbaconzool2005: look into the server cd, then go from there09:46
Dr_willisMouldy,  thats the problem with automounting stuff.. when it breaks - its yet anothe rlayer to troubledshoot.09:46
THX-1138jstarcher - 1.2g total.09:46
jstarcherof swap?09:46
jstarcherright09:46
Justy-question: can i access there without the help of disk manager directly09:46
bluefox83i need to know what the new name for the kernel module "Synaptics" is09:46
oskudezool2005: you could install using the server image, afaik theres no (yet) easy way to install a base system like with debian09:46
zool2005baconbacon, thanks09:46
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Jowiit2: is it a fresh install of ubuntu?09:46
whysoi really wish directx was made open source :(09:46
it2jowi: yes09:46
Demon012lol so do i whyso09:46
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Dr_willisMouldy,  as far as i know.. you find the floppy drive icon, right click, and slect mount.09:46
THX-1138jstarcher - somethin like 200mbs used - heavy use of mysql here.09:46
Demon012SDL is a good middleground tho i suppose09:46
Demon012just gotta convince more developers to use it09:47
Dr_willisMouldy,  then befor you remove the disk you right click - select unmounr09:47
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Justy-hi =)09:47
Justy-question: I have a sda hdd which has a format of NTFS09:47
MouldyDr_willis, I only get a floppy icon when I've already mounted it, so the only option I have is to unmount it...which makes sense :p09:47
oskudezool2005: and my favorite minimal wm is "openbox" ;)09:47
Justy-question: I go to SystemAdmin.Disk manager09:47
Justy-question: then it enables /tmp/sdablablabla and i can access there ONLY with root privilages09:47
habeebWhat the fuck pike_ :P now there are /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 and nothing of /dev/sda*09:47
Justy-question: can i access there without the help of disk manager directly09:47
boink!language09:47
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:47
jstarcherTHX-1138, yeah I dunno if apache uses swap, I'd guess if it needed to it would but otherwise not...my server is just a LAN fileserver and I do have apache/mysql up but they aren't really used at all09:47
zool2005oskude: there is not internet connection, will I be able to access repositories on other ubuntu cd?09:47
pike_habeeb: thats fine09:47
Dr_willisMouldy,  thers a setting for the gnome desktop to show unmounted floppies - i do belive. I dont use gnome.. so cant tell you more... I dont want ANY icons on my desktop09:47
oskudezool2005: yes09:47
Jowiit2: then I would probably try to reinstall it instead of swap the order first of all. The problem is probably this: when grub is installed it is installing itself on the MBR (master boot record) on the wrong disk. and the wrong disk is bootable in bios. wierd problem but happens.09:48
pike_habeeb: well sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb109:48
it2jowi: it is a fresh install, but ubuntu used the entire 80 gb hd, while i only meant to give it a 10 gb partition, so i went back to ms, deleted the partition, then partitioned it again to a 10 gb and a 70 gb partition09:48
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Lard-O-LadJusty-: if you change the umask to 000 you can access without super user privilages09:48
MouldyDr_willis, ok thanks, I'll check gconf09:48
habeebpike_: Ok09:48
pike_habeeb: hald is waky that way09:48
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Dr_willisMouldy,  i dont think you got to go that extreme.. if you do.. thats showing WHY i dont use gnome..09:48
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habeebAnd then unplug && plug?09:48
Justy-Lard-O-Lad, what is umask and where can i change it from?09:48
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it2ok , i'll fysicly swap the disks09:48
Jowiit2: ah, then try a reinstall. set up the partitions properly in the installation.09:48
MouldyDr_willis, What do you use? One of the *boxes?09:48
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Justy-Lard-O-Lad, ow, thanks btw =)09:49
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Dr_willisMouldy,  i tend to use kde.09:49
pike_habeeb: might as well09:49
MouldyDr_willis, I didn't particularly like KDE. Just wasn't for me I guess, prefer Gnome's way of doing things09:49
habeebok09:49
it2ko09:49
it2ok09:49
jstarcheroskude pike_ THX-1138: well I'm outta here, I have to goto work. Thanks for the help09:49
Lard-O-LadJusty-: np, open /etc/fstab and look for the line with the NTFS drive09:49
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Dr_willisMouldy,  of gnomes lack of ways to do things. :)09:49
Jowiit2: better another failed installation than having to re-switch again in case it doesn't work.09:49
it2man , i hope using ubuntu will be easier then installing it :p09:49
oskudejstarcher: have fun09:50
habeebNow its only /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 pike_  :P Hide and seek?09:50
Dr_willisMouldy,  the more i used gnome.. the more i disliked it. :)  but Linux is all about Flexability09:50
it2ok09:50
Jowiit2: bad luck that's all.09:50
MouldyDr_willis, Well, as much as I'd agree with you at the moment (:P) it tends to be quite well behaved09:50
Justy-Lard-O-Lad, I couldn't see.. would you like me to pastebin it?09:50
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kupesoftWhy did breezy upgrade firefox to 1.5.0.7?09:51
Lard-O-LadJusty-: if it isnt there your gonna have to add it09:51
MouldyDr_willis, Each to his own I guess. I used fluxbox for a while, got bored of that pretty quickly :p09:51
it2jowi: i've gotten a headacke after trying to install it the entire afternoon, must be my lack of knowledge :)09:51
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Jowiit2: use ext3 for the linux partition09:51
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sharky-woo ubuntu!!!09:51
Jowiit2: and install grub on MBR09:51
Lard-O-Ladbetter yet...09:51
Lard-O-Lad!ntfs-3g > Justy-09:51
vanisher!snort09:51
kupesoftWhy did breezy upgrade firefox to 1.5.0.7??09:51
Zaggynlhmm what does Ubuntu default to? I just clicked next a lot09:51
habeebShould I do the same for /dev/sda1 pike_ ? :/09:51
ubotusnort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 347 kB, installed size 824 kB09:51
vanisher!exim09:52
ubotuexim: An MTA (Mail Transport Agent). In component universe, is extra. Version 3.36-18ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 758 kB, installed size 1424 kB09:52
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it2jowi: can i install ubuntu on a hd wich has also a ms data partition on it?09:52
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Justy-Lard-O-Lad, http://pastebin.com/80025009:52
oskudeZaggynl: default what ?09:52
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Jowiit2: believe me, it is bad luck. I managed to screw up to have error 17 once (my own fault). yes you can absolutely install on the same disk09:53
Zaggynloskude, the file system, does it use ext2 by default?09:53
oskudeZaggynl: ext309:53
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it2jowi: ok, thx man09:53
Zaggynlah okay09:53
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cipher_nemoFor ubuntu 6.06 dapper install CD, is there a quicker way to install than selecting Start/Install... I noticed a command line you can enter a command?09:53
pike_habeeb: is it working again?09:53
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adam0509hi09:54
Lard-O-LadJusty-: did you get a PM from ubotu?09:54
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zool2005oskude: I'd considered installing Arch linux but there is little support and all my questions went unanswered on IRC so I'll try installing my trusted Ubuntu!09:54
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adam0509Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???09:54
it2jowi: earlier today ubuntu erased my entire win data hd and dleted all partitions i made in windows, can you guide me thrue the install?09:54
Justy-Lard-O-Lad, it tells me to have Fuse installed09:54
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Justy-Lard-O-Lad, yes09:54
habeebNo, endless splash screen still, pike_ . But the /dev/sdb became /dev/sda again..09:54
CVirushow can I update a single package using apt ?09:54
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adam0509Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???09:55
adam0509Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???09:55
adam0509Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???09:55
adam0509Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???09:55
adam0509thx.09:55
oskudecipher_nemo: sudo apt-get install programname09:55
Justy-Lard-O-Lad, can you inform me about it ? please09:55
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gravesoni am trying to install a tvr/dvb type device,can someone please tell me what this is : snd_rawmidi09:55
cipher_nemooskude: so I'd want to do what for programname to get full ubuntu?09:55
CVirusadam0509: is that a proper way to ask a question ?09:55
Jowiit2: very difficult to guide over IRC (and I work tomorrow). If it erased all your win data you did make something wrong in the setup for sure.09:55
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it2jowi: what is best, install ubuntu on the entire 80 gig hd , then repartition the hd in ubuntu, or create a partition while installing?09:55
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adam0509no one answer me in several channel...09:56
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adam0509beginning to being annoyed...09:56
oskudecipher_nemo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:56
Zaggynladam0509, spamming doesn't help either09:56
it2jowi: i'm sure it's my fault:p09:56
suff0katewhats the command to edit a text in terminal i forget sudo something09:56
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adam0509I Knowh ><09:56
CVirusadam0509: ask your ISP09:56
Lard-O-LadJusty-: well NTFS is proprietary to microsoft, for a while now linux users have been trying to read and write from NTFS partition.  NTFS-3G is by far the best implementation.  (however it is still in beta, not to be used in "production" machines)09:56
Zaggynladam0509, the site is in french for you?09:56
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adam0509is the wiki.ubuntu.com the officiel wiki ?09:56
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cipher_nemooskude: k, thx... have you done this before on a new install instead of letting it boot to gnome/x?09:56
it2jowi: installer is not very clear if you're a win user for like 12 yrs09:56
Lard-O-LadJusty-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g09:56
THX-1138suff0kate: edit with root priv? sudo gedit or nan or even ed  OMG!09:57
Justy-Lard-O-Lad, hmmm09:57
adam0509that page only (I'm french by the way, so its a ISP script h4x something ?)09:57
Jowiit2: create partitions during setup is easier. for example partition1: / (root) 6GB ext3, partition 2: swap 1GB, partition 3: /home 30GB ext309:57
kupesoftWhy did breezy upgrade firefox to 1.5.0.7??09:57
suff0katehow do i edit a text that only read only in terminal09:57
suff0kate?09:57
THX-1138s/nan/nano/g09:57
oskudecipher_nemo: no, as the desktop (alternate) cd installs that automaticly09:57
Lard-O-LadJusty-: if you just want to read from a NTFS partition, then the default NTFS drivers will do09:57
suff0katenano kk ty09:57
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habeebbtw pike_ just for the history of this thing... Why am I getting a folder with the mp3 in my "computer" directory even tho its not mounted?09:57
cipher_nemooskude: ok... I;ll try to install the ubuntu-desktop and see if it works :) thx again09:58
it2jowi: wich partition will be my win data partition then?09:58
CVirushow can I update a single package using apt ?09:58
it2jowi: i still wonna use 70 gig for win u see09:58
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Jowiit2: does not matter which one it is. can make it as number 1, 2, 3 or 4. linux make no difference where it is09:58
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it2jowi: so i want to make 70 gig ntfs, 1 gig fat32 for swapping between ubuntu and win, and 9 gig for ubuntu itself09:59
pike_habeeb: well at least you still have a sweet thumbdrive :)09:59
Llewxamamazing.. changed kernels and it works.... backing my stuff up now for a format and reinstall... as much as i'd hate to do it.09:59
oskudeadam0509: bad that theres not even an option to select the desired languange for that site...09:59
habeebNo pike_09:59
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habeebI cant store things inside..09:59
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Jowiit2: swap is not fat32. and you can not use it for both win and linux09:59
THX-1138it2 - A Fat32 partition can be useful for files to be seen in linux and windows.09:59
adam0509I want to see the english Wiki... but I ddon't find how !!!!!!!!!09:59
habeebWell, I'm so going to that store tomorrow and saying that my bad unclie tried to apply some songs and plugged it off before he rejected the device.. :(10:00
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Jowiit2: you can make 70GB ntfs, 9 gig ext3 and 1gb swap (for linux)10:00
it2jowi: ok10:00
oskudeadam0509: hmm, but i dont get it as german, even that im in germany...10:00
it2jowi: thx dude10:00
TyggerBobJowi, I don't think me meant that as a swap drive..10:00
adam0509:|10:00
Jowiit2: no probs10:00
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TyggerBobI think he meant as a "transfer" drive10:00
TyggerBobthat's what I do as well.10:00
adam0509erh.... is that "thing" the official wiki => https://help.ubuntu.com/community ???10:01
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zerberus_hi!10:01
JowiTyggerBob: ah, yeah. you might be right. that's what you meant it2?10:01
TyggerBobone that's writable from both the Ubuntu and Windows10:01
oskudeadam0509: "wiki" is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/10:01
earthiannn all10:01
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ryan__what could cause this error:      There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The Settings Daemon restarted too many times. The last error message was: System exception: IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred.GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in10:02
it2jowi: should i resize the hd?10:02
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adam0509okay...10:02
TyggerBobbut it2, you will still need an actual _swap_ partition formated as swap for Ubuntu.10:02
zerberus_Anyone ever had the problem that the Kernel freezes at startup if a USB-Hub is connected?10:02
adam0509I think i'm gonna add very much text for it....10:02
Centaur5If an Averatec laptop crashes when it tries to boot the install cd in text or live cd mode is it going to be impossible to put it on?10:02
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it2ok10:02
=== Tokenbad is so confused on what to do now
Jowiit2: if that was what you meant, 1: ntfs 69 gb, 2: ext3 9 gb, 3: fat32 1gb, 4: swap 1gb10:02
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it2then i'll make 4 partitions10:02
adam0509It's a huge holed wiki.... oskude don't you think so ?10:02
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it2jowi: that is what i mean yes10:03
fyrestrtrCentaur5: define 'crash'10:03
oskudeadam0509: huge holed ?10:03
Paddy_EIREhow simple would it be to change the gnome splash screen10:03
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adam0509the french wiki must be above 4 or 5 more bigger !10:03
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Jowiit2: if you will wipe the hdd anyway there's no need to resize it. remember you can only have 4 primary partitions.10:03
Centaur5fyrestrtr: It does a kernel init error10:03
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: system > preferences > splash screen10:03
TyggerBobI'd make the fat32 drive even a bit bigger.. I'm finding that 1G wasn't enough.. depending whether your actually leaving stuff there...10:03
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it2ok10:04
H080J03ok i have just purchesed a usb bluetooth dongle, i would like to scan for some devices useing it, how would i go about doing this10:04
Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: it aint there10:04
fyrestrtrwhat?10:04
TokenbadI need someone to help me with a drive problem10:04
cberlowhere would I look for information about an Edgy LTSP install that doesn't allow logins through LDM?10:04
fyrestrtrCentaur5: anything before the error that you see on the screen?10:04
TyggerBobH080J03, try hcitool hci0 scan10:04
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TyggerBobI think..10:04
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cberlo(and/or any additional docs to take advantage of the new local devices features and local printing...)10:04
pike_H080J03: i think youll need bluez-utils package10:04
it2jowi: can i install in english and change the language latr to dutch? i wonna do this cause now i have to translate each step..10:04
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fyrestrtrcberlo: #ubuntu+1 is a good place to start10:04
pike_H080J03: too10:05
Jowiit2: yes10:05
Centaur5TyggerBob: Can you let me know how to issue the command when I can't get into the live cd?10:05
it2ok, thx10:05
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TyggerBobCentaur5, which command?10:05
Paddy_EIREdoes anyone know how to change the gnome splash screen10:05
gravesoncan someone please help. i am installing a tv device(similar to a dvb) .when i plug in the usb cable some modules are loaded-noticed via lsmod ,but i see nothing hwhen doing lspci .what does this mean10:05
cberlofyrestrtr: Thanks.10:06
Jowi!usplash10:06
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto10:06
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axa-axaHi10:06
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: use the gconf editor10:06
kitchegraveson: lspci is for pci slots10:06
H080J03TyggerBob, nothing happened10:06
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trappistgraveson: lspci doesn't list usb devices - you want lsusb :)10:06
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adam0509the french wiki must be above 4 or 5 more bigger ! oskude10:06
TyggerBobH080J03, are there any discoverable BT devices nearby?10:06
oskudeadam0509: cant compute!10:06
axa-axaSince dapper drake 6.06 is LTS (Long Term Support) does that mean that last Gnome version will also be available for dapper drake?10:06
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H080J03i don't think so, i need to buy some batteirs for my mouse10:07
rellisAnyone ever hear of sound working fine in Ubuntu, but you can hear no sound from flash videos in Firefox?10:07
fyrestrtraxa-axa: no.10:07
TokenbadI have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is10:07
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trappistrellis: yes, check out the RestrictedFormats wiki page.  it tells you how to fix it.10:07
fyrestrtrrellis: very common problem, its in the wiki under RestrictedFormats10:07
axa-axafyrestrtr: than what does LTS mean?10:07
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trappistaxa-axa: Long Term Support10:07
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fyrestrtraxa-axa: means its supported for longer than the other releases, not that it will update to the latest and greatest.10:07
james___hello, i'm having a strange problem with my dapper system10:07
TyggerBobH080J03, I'm pretty sure that if there's nothing to report, it won't report them.10:08
rellistrappist, fyrestrtr: Thanks.10:08
trappistaxa-axa: security fixes and bugfixes will be backported to dapper for 5 years10:08
TyggerBobH080J03, most devices require some action to get them to be discoverable.. like holding a button down or something.10:08
axa-axathanks10:08
fyrestrtrH080J03: install the gnome blutooth package, and do a search from gnome.10:08
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ed_i have a mount problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25685/   why does mount report that the drive is mounted or busy?10:08
oskudetrappist: backporting is something else than fixing bugs and security updates10:08
james___i seem to be receiving about 3 messages a second about hid-core.c having it's controller-queue fill10:09
james___full*10:09
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H080J03alrighty then10:09
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THX-1138james_ hid = human interface device?10:09
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james___yeah10:09
fyrestrtrTHX-1138: yes10:09
james___i guess so10:09
trappistoskude: sometimes they backport hole packages.  but for stable releases, they take patches that fix individual bugs or security issues and backport them to already-released versions.  it's still a backport.10:09
Centaur5fyrestrtr: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init10:09
trappists/hole/whole/10:10
Centaur5fyrestrtr: Do you want the long code before that?10:10
CONDEDid somebody knows how to enter in a computer from linux ubuntu?10:10
fyrestrtrCentaur5: yes10:10
ryan__should the user own the contants of the home folder or should root10:10
THX-1138james_ - ah. - i didn't know.10:10
TyggerBobCONDE, whatcha trying to do?10:10
ed_CONDE, use telnet :P10:10
fyrestrtrryan__: user, if root does, then the user can't write.10:10
mitsuhhoboooer10:10
it2so, now i created 3 new partitions, can i make my 69 gig ntfs again later in ms?10:10
oskudetrappist: but you dont need the backport repo for that...10:10
CONDEubuntu has a telnet?10:10
james___the tail of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25686/10:10
kitcheryan__: the user should own their own folder but /home should be owned by root10:10
edgyed_: : try umount /dev/hdb10:10
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ed_CONDE, if you're crazy enough to install it10:10
H080J03TyggerBob, how do i know hcitool is useing my dongle?10:10
trappistoskude: no, the backport repo is for backported packages.10:10
gravesonthanks guys10:11
sharperguyCONDE, yes ubuntu has telnet10:11
ed_edgy, that doesnt work. output is shown in the paste10:11
TyggerBobH080J03, do a dmesg | grep hci10:11
edgyed_: no you tried something else ;)10:11
ed_edgy, partition is not mounted10:11
CONDEdid some of you have a tutorial of how to do it?10:11
TyggerBobto see if it's creating the device.10:11
oskudetrappist: but you dont need backport repo to get bug and security updates for dapper lts...10:11
gravesonso if my device is not listed -that means it is not being detected.how do i go about troubleshooting this10:11
ed_edgy, partition is not mounted umount: /dev/hdb: not mounted10:11
TyggerBobshould see something like hci0 in there somewhere.10:11
trappistoskude: correct10:11
TyggerBobthen try hciconfig10:11
edgyed_: hdb not hdb110:11
ed_edgy, neither are mounted in /proc/mounts !10:11
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Centaur5fyrestrtr: [17179573.372000]  Code: 74 06 88 81 60 59 38 c0 c3 25 ff 00 00 00 c3 8b 15 24 b0 88 04 4d f5 2f c0 eb 80 b8 e4 ff ff ff c3 8d b4 26 00 0010:12
edgyed_: can you paste sudo fdisk -l?10:12
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it2oh ow, i still don't understan..10:13
ed_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25687/10:13
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Paddy_EIREhow should I launch "gconf editor" as there is no way of doing it in the gui as it is not there10:13
it2so: step 5 i manualy edit partition table, right?10:13
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CONDEdid somebody speak spanish?10:13
it2then i slect my 80 gig drive10:14
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oskudePaddy_EIRE: gconf-editor10:14
it2and right click it, select the new button right?10:14
THX-1138TyggerBob - hcitool - nice tip. :)10:14
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qatsiok, im having some troubble with my network card....i did a fresh install in my desktop, and the network card isnt supported, now i know how to install it, but the thing is that i need the latest kernel sources, kernel headers, the make package and various gcc things...is there a way to download them, transfer and install it without network connection ? thnk you :)10:14
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Paddy_EIREoskude: is that "gksudo" or "sudo" or is it typed in an application launcer10:14
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salimI can open .3gp movie files from my sonyericsson with vlc and mplayer, but in both, there is no sound!10:15
jiphexcan someone have a quick look at my syslog and tell me what's causing this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25686/ (hid-core.c contol queue full)10:15
salimcan anybody help me10:15
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oskudePaddy_EIRE: if you need sudo for graphical tools, use "gksudo"10:15
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THX-1138How do you enable the mount command from the live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.10:15
Paddy_EIREoskude: yeah, lol....but which is it for gconf-editor10:16
Centaur5fyrestrtr: hopeless?10:16
H080J03TyggerBob, ok i have my bluetooth enabled phone now, it has bluetooth turned on10:16
Subhumansalim, i get the same problem.10:16
H080J03and the scan shows nothing10:16
edgyed_: did you try to specify the fs type in the mount?10:16
ryan__at login after i enter my password i get this error: $home/.dmrc is being ignored. user must be owner.........but the user is the owner of everything in the home folder ...anyideas10:16
CONDEIn telnet when i put open what i have to put the ip addres or some page?10:16
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ed_edgy, yes i treid that previously10:16
oskudePaddy_EIRE: do you need sudo rights for that ?10:16
salimsubhuman: and no solution yet?10:16
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TyggerBobH080J03, the phone will only been seen if it's set as discoverable. my Razor has discoverability turned off by default.. I can enable it for 30 sec in the menu10:17
Paddy_EIREoskude: this is a single user comp, just me and root after install10:17
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gravesonif a usb  device is not listed by the lsusb command (however it has an id) -that means it is not being detected.how do i go about troubleshooting this10:17
CONDEHey who can help me10:17
ed_edgy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25688/10:17
H080J03TyggerBob, i took out the hci0 form the command, it worked10:17
oskudePaddy_EIRE: i can run gconf-editor without sudo rights... but dunno if it needs one...10:17
Paddy_EIREk10:17
TyggerBobAhh..10:18
TyggerBobsorry about that..10:18
edgyjiphex: I also have the exact same problem. It's related to usb but don't know how to solve it. if some one helped you tell me please10:18
Paddy_EIREoskude: sorted, nice one10:18
TyggerBobI don't have my dongle attached right now, so I couldn't try it.10:18
edgyed_: is it xfs really?!10:18
CONDEDid somebody knows how to hacl a computer from ubuntu?10:18
ed_edgy, yes10:18
heanol_can i boot up my installed system from the installation cd_10:19
heanol_?10:19
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edgyed_: does it contain any data?10:19
ed_edgy, yes10:19
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kitcheheanol_: yea you have to specify root=10:19
TyggerBobCONDE, not sure what you're trying to do..10:19
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jiphexedgy: i know its something to do with usb, i guess its more specifically to do with kb/mouse as its a hid error10:19
TyggerBobis it yours?10:19
ed_edgy, i don't think wiping it would help, some reason mount thinks it's busy/mounted10:19
heanol_kitche, ok.. so press f6 and change the root to point to my installed partition_10:19
heanol_?10:19
kitcheheanol_: yeah that should boot your isntaleld system10:20
heanol_ok10:20
heanol_brb, test10:20
heanol_thanks10:20
heanol_:-)10:20
CONDEi want to enter in a computer10:20
CONDEto see files10:20
TyggerBobCONDE, who's computer?10:20
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TyggerBobwhose, even10:20
CONDEA them guy who steal files from my computer10:21
Ackeubu_hwy how do i check if opengl is supported by my video card?10:21
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CONDEit supouse it is my friend10:21
ByanAckeubu_: what's your card?10:21
THX-1138CONDE "ls" list fikes from the command line? see also cd = change directory and cp = copy10:21
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edgyed_: as a last resort did you try to reboot?10:21
oskudeCONDE: omg ? someone is stealing files from your computer ? how does he/she do that ?10:21
TyggerBobthen sorry.. I can't help you. If it was your computer.. that's one thing..10:21
Ackeubu_Byan Ati10:21
ed_edgy, yes, several boots since10:22
CONDEi don't know10:22
Byanyou wanna be more specific...?10:22
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Byanbut really anything made by ATI in the last 10 years is gonna have OpenGL on it10:22
oskudeCONDE: how do you know he/she is stealing your files ?10:22
CONDEbut she show me files in the school i only have10:22
RahsputinHi !  i am using WinXP inside VMware server... having trouble with ? USB 2 ? anyone here expirience with VMware.... allready tried in #vmware,wiki, and google we can meet in #vmware10:22
edgyed_: my guess is either a kernel problem ( and you can try to an old kernel) or a really defective usb port10:22
salimI want to install realplayer (through synaptic) but it says xlibs is not insalled10:22
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kevinhey10:23
ed_edgy, it's PATA, it was ok when i was using debian a few days ago10:23
Ackeubu_Byan, it has. but i installed some updates and now i think its not working properly but is running on mesa....10:23
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edgyed_: I never formatted something as xfs before so I can't tell how it's different but the error message give me the impression not to try it at all ;)10:23
Ackeubu_GL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect10:23
harrismHi everyone, a guy I knows keeps putting ubuntu down and it's really starting to get annoying. He is a fedora fan and says ubuntu stole fedoras theme and never gave them any credit. I don't know if this is true or not because I have yet to try fedora core. However, if this is true can anyone point me to some ubuntu credits page or something? To shut him up basically?10:23
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edgyed_: so if you boot from a livecd would it work?10:24
Subhumanharrism, ubuntu uses a brown theme, no other distro uses brown....10:24
ed_edgy, i can't think what kernel problem it could be, i have two identical drives, so it's not hardware compatibility, and xfs is built as a kernel driver. xfs is good, i think this is a problem with mount utils10:24
CONDEcan i use telnet to enter in a computer???10:24
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baconbaconharrism: tell him "huh, welcome to free software"10:24
ed_edgy, i would expect so10:24
SubhumanCONDE, if they are running a telnet server. yes, but i suggest you to use ssh over telnet10:24
Subhuman!ssh10:24
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/10:24
harrismbaconbacon, yeah10:24
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harrismwell, he said took fedoras look and made it brown10:24
mitsuhhoboI think Im gonna reinstall ubuntu10:25
edgyed_: sorry that kernel message is not for you it's for jiphex10:25
harrismI think ubuntu is great, I have nothing against it really10:25
oskudeharrism: let him first show the fedore(tm?) theme ?10:25
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edgyjiphex: my guess is either a kernel problem ( and you can try to an old kernel) or a really defective usb port10:25
Paddy_EIREthe gnome splashscreen that I downloaded is a .svgz when I click it the timer on the mouse icon sarts then stops and nothing loads....can i use this file in its current format as the splash10:25
THX-1138harrism - lol - let him fight with thte fedora packaging system and dependency hell. - you can use the time for something productive.10:25
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CONDEi have to open ssh?10:25
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CONDEand then what ia have to do?10:25
mitsuhhobothis instal doesn't love me anymore10:25
CONDEfind the ip?10:25
harrismthx-1138, yeah ha, that was the only thing he gave ubuntu credit for.. but then said "wait until fc6"10:26
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TyggerBobtake care all..10:26
TyggerBobhave a good evening10:27
jiphexedgy: yeah, i guess i'll try that, have to wait till im actually at the computer (ssh'ing at the moment). I dont like rebooting remotely ;-)10:27
THX-1138TyggerBob - Awsome. - thank you for the tips10:27
baconbaconharrism: well ok, i might reconsider if fc6 gets better, but for the time i use what's best.10:27
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ryan__durring login i get the error: User's $Home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the defalt session and language from being saved. File should be owned by userand have 644 premissions. Users home directory must be owned by users and not writable by other users.10:27
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ryan__how do i go about fixing this10:28
edgyed_: if it worked from a livecd or another system may be you can compare the mount utils version and may be you find one version has that problem10:28
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theguyim having a problem10:28
theguyi wonder if someone can help10:28
ryan__and/or where do i find the 1st file the change the premissions10:28
harrismyeah, I don't really have anything against any disto I try however I didn't like freespire so much. I just can't understand how he could bash ubuntu so much. It does its job and well. I never had a problem with it. I would not mind trying fc6 either for that matter.10:28
ed_edgy, thanks for the help10:28
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oskuderyan__: chown changes the user/group of a file, and chmod the rights10:28
Paddy_EIREhey guys the gnome splashscreen that I downloaded is a .svgz when I click it the timer on the mouse icon sarts then stops and nothing loads....can i use this file in its current format as the gnome splash screen through gconf-editor10:29
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oskudePaddy_EIRE: and you think you can install splash screens by doubleclicking them ?10:29
Paddy_EIREoskude: no10:29
Paddy_EIRE?10:29
Paddy_EIREwanted to view it10:29
redguyhi, I am trying to read a webpage which uses <font face="Symbol"> in konqueror. The fonts aren't diplayed properly though. Any hints on making this work?10:29
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theguybasically im trying to install codecs but it says i dont have permission to write to my folders10:29
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oskudePaddy_EIRE: give me a link, ill try10:30
Paddy_EIREk10:30
oskudePaddy_EIRE: means it should work10:30
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edgyed_: did you see this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84174-p-2.html10:30
oskuderedguy: afaik font html tag is "dead" should use css instead...10:30
MoriaeHello.10:30
Paddy_EIREoskude: Snowish Splash is the one http://www.gnome-look.org/10:31
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redguyoskude: heh, I know that. Supposedly the makers of the webpage didn't10:31
Paddy_EIREoskude: btw, i put it in my home dir in ".custom_splash" is this ok10:31
codezerohello i have a question on my ubuntu dapper drake samba complains about some links...when i do apt-get to install a new application everytime i get a warning about samba and it is annoying10:31
redguyoskude: and actually, font tags do still work10:31
oskudePaddy_EIRE: no idea, i never install splash screens10:32
codezerohow can i get rid of this problem?10:32
redguyoskude: so the tag itself isn't the problem. the problem are the fonts10:32
Paddy_EIREoskude: why not10:32
oskudePaddy_EIRE: sorry, ment installed10:32
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idefix_who is lilo?10:32
vanisheridefix_: a bootloader10:33
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oskuderedguy: could be10:33
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Paddy_EIREwhat do I type in a terminal to see the full directory path to where i am10:33
oskudePaddy_EIRE: pwd10:34
Paddy_EIREnice one10:34
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oskudePaddy_EIRE: ok, i can open it in gnome image viewer neither, but inkscape opens it10:34
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oskudePaddy_EIRE: *cant10:34
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ltR20how come i cant install XGL?10:35
Paddy_EIREoh i see "svgz10:35
Paddy_EIREbe right back10:35
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zool2005i've just installed ubuntu server edition and want to install XFCE, how can I add XUBUNTU cd to repositories from command line? I don't have an internet connection10:35
THX-1138ltR20 !XGL10:35
THX-1138#ubuntu-xgl10:35
DivineAnt!codecs10:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:36
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pike_zool2005: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the comment # infront of any urls and then ctrl-o or x to write changes and then sudo apt-get udpate10:36
oskudezool2005: apt-cdrom could help (never used) but try reading "man apt-cdrom"10:36
Paddy_EIREoskude: no it didnt work although its now using the "gnome 2.14" splash???10:36
Volstrupanyone who knows how to get the mldonkey-server installation up'n'running? I've tried on two different machines and the installation just won't finish. Afterwards I can't even run dpkg-reconfigure mldonkey-server10:37
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fyrestrtrzool2005: use apt-cdrom, something like apt-cdrom /dev/something add10:37
pike_zool2005: lol nm10:37
oskudePaddy_EIRE: what ever "it" is...10:37
Paddy_EIREoskude: the splash screen10:37
hoodyhi there! i got trouble with the ndiswrapper... can anybody help me with this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25689/10:37
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oskudePaddy_EIRE: i ment with "it" the way you tried to install it...10:38
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: please tell me what you mean exactly by splash screen. The screen that loads up on system start, the screen where you type your username password, or the little thing that pops up with the icons that show gnome initializing.10:38
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Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: gnome splash screen10:38
mirakdoes dapper versions have the nvidia new driver that supports AIGLX ?10:38
Ackeubu_hey anyone knows a nice howto on how to back up to a previous version of a package?10:38
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RokueHello, I cant get my ubuntu updated..10:39
Rokue"E: /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_5.93-5ubuntu4_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2"10:39
RokueThat pops up10:39
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Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: as in the one that makes a soft jingle when its loading things like nautilus and update notifier10:39
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Russelhiho10:39
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Zaggynlhohi10:40
Russelif i am in a tty, i have ad bad resolution and such things, is there a guide for it?10:40
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qatsiok, i need the make command, i would normally do apt-get install make, but i dont have internet on the computer i need that, is there a way to copy tha package and install it ?, it must be a .deb file, but i dont know where to find it....can you help me? thank you10:41
ryan__after start up i get the error: There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.........how do i go about fixing this10:41
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fyrestrtrRussel: yes, the framebuffer howto in the wiki10:42
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fyrestrtr!framebuffer > Russel10:42
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Russelthx fyrestrtr10:43
RokueTrying to update ubuntu and this pops up.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25690/10:43
Zaggynlah yes, that it was, framebuffer10:43
aldarsiorHello, I installed the Mantis Bug Tracker on my ubuntu server on Apache2. When I try to access it, my browser asks me if I would like to save the file "index.php" and it does not render. I have fixed the apache configuration (uncommented the content type lines in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf) and restarted apache (/etc/init.d/apache2 restart) but it still does the same thing.10:43
Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: what is the default directory where the default splash screen is stored10:43
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pridkettis there a way to make apt stop complaining about missing a file?  for example, I compiled a package from source and removed the ubuntu version, but now apt complains.   Any ideas?10:43
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: use the gconf editor to find out.10:44
kitchealdarsior: you setup apache2 to use php? since that's the problem your having10:44
Paddy_EIREfyrestrtr: it aint givin me the info10:44
aldarsiorkitche: I mean, how?10:44
kitche!LAMP > aldarsior10:44
aldarsiorkitche: I uncommented this line in the apache2 config file: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php10:44
pridketti know I can use dpkg-divert for single files, but I want to know how to make the system quit complaining about a dependency.  (i.e. how to have ubuntu-desktop not complain about missing f-spot)10:44
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kitchethat should help you out it aldarsior10:45
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fyrestrtrpridkett: are you on dapper?10:45
fyrestrtrbecause it sounds like you are complaining about edgy.10:45
codezeroaldarsior, that should help you if you have php5 or any other php package installed10:45
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edgyed_10:45
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Paddy_EIREanyone know the default directory where the ubuntu splash screen is stored (the splash you get upon login10:46
kitchePaddy_EIRE: it depends what window manager you use really but it's where the window manager directories are10:46
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Paddy_EIREkitche: gnome10:46
pridkettfyrestrtr: it's a general question -- I'm on edgy, but the problem equally applies to dapper (not for the same packages of course)10:46
zuguhi all10:46
matteogood evening10:46
pike_Paddy_EIRE: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash maybe10:47
aldarsiorcodezero: thanks a bunch10:47
qatsiok, this is stupid, i downloaded the make package, and to install it, i need to execute the make command, which i dont have, thats why i want to install it...is there a workaround?10:47
aldarsiorcodezero: it's actually a php4 package, but it's beyond me as to why it doesn't require or recommend mod-php410:47
zool2005i've added ubuntu cds to repositories using apt-cdrom add but apt-get install xfce fails saying couldn't find package. I'm a bit stuck!10:47
aldarsiorkitche: thanks a bunch10:47
Paddy_EIREpike_: nice shot, spot on :)10:47
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fyrestrtrpridkett: first, please ask edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 as it may be a known issue.10:48
matteoi want to install the latest nvidia beta driver but i can't find the package nvidia-kernel-1.0.962510:48
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deltabqatsi: you'll need to install an executable version, e.g. with apt-get install make10:48
fyrestrtr!info xfce10:48
ubotuPackage xfce does not exist in any distro I know10:48
kitchealdarsior: I use LAMP myself since it's just plain easier10:48
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kitche!info xfce410:48
zuguis there any way for me to have only one instance of VLC running at any time? so that if I double click a video file, while another one is running in VLC, the already running one will close and the other will play instead10:48
fyrestrtrzool2005: there is your answer, there is no xfce package :)10:48
ubotuxfce4: Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB10:48
aldarsiorLAMP what?10:48
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pridkettfyrestrtr: it's not a bug thought, it's an apt-get usage issue10:48
kitchethere you go fyrestrtr10:48
zool2005fyrestrtr : why do I have it on my desktop install then?10:48
qatsideltab: the thing is dont have internet, so i need the .deb file :s but i cant find it :s10:48
aldarsiorkitche: I need a bug tracker not a development environment10:49
MissLadyanyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.10:49
kitchealdarsior it just installs and setups everything to work nicely with each other by default LAMP is linux apache mysql and php is what it stands for10:49
pridkettI could have just as easily said "I compiled my own version of gstreamer and now rhythmbox complains about an unsatisfied dependency"10:49
zool2005fyrestrtr: i need a lightweight WM for a 400MHz laptop!10:49
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fyrestrtrzool2005: you don't want xfce then.10:50
qatsifluxbox ?10:50
codezeroaldarsior, be sure that you have also libapache2-mod-php4 package10:50
baconbaconxfce, fluxbox or icewm for ultra lightweight and featureless10:50
Rokuefyrestrtr: I'm trying to update and this pops up.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25690/10:50
deltabqatsi: do you have a CD with it on?10:50
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codezeroand you have also enabled apache2 extension for php10:50
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Russelhiho10:51
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qatsideltab: yes i do, is it there ?10:51
ltR20whats better10:51
ltR20veryl?10:51
zool2005baconbacon: apt-get install can't find any of those packages apparently!10:51
ltR20or compiz?10:51
codezeroaldarsior, when you do install libapache2-mod-php4 package10:51
ltR20beryl*10:51
Russeli tried this vga option, but now the refresh frequenzy is to low and the screen doesn't fit10:51
Russelsomething i missed?10:51
kitcheltR20: their the samething but one is going a different direction then the other10:51
codezeroactually it creates a symlink on /etc/apache2/mods-enabled directory to enable php4 on apache10:51
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aldarsiorcodezero: that's what I meant10:52
baconbaconxfce is xubuntu-desktop, but i don't know(remember) how to install fluxbox10:52
fyrestrtrzool2005: apt-get install xfce410:52
qatsideltab: ok, now i installed it :) thank you very much for your help :)10:52
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apeman2020hello all10:52
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deltabqatsi: heh, you're welcome10:52
pike_fluxbox and xinit very lightweight10:52
aldarsiorcodezero: this package should really recommend apache or apache2 and the appropriate php mods10:52
zool2005fyrestrtr:  I've installed from server version and now I need to install lightweight X without internet connection10:52
uglyfl0wHi. I've got a question, tried ubuntu today by booting a live cd (or whatever it's called). When I got to the desktop the highest resolution would only be 1024x768 which isn't what my wide-tft like, and I tried to change it, but I couldn't make that choise. Am i able to change that or isn't it supported for some reason?10:53
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Russelit was all really easy to set up in gentoo10:53
apeman2020    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off..... why?10:53
MissLadyanyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.10:53
pike_!resolution > uglyfl0w10:53
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uglyfl0wpike_, thank you.10:54
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deltab!resolution10:55
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ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:55
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apeman2020 /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off..... why?10:55
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idefix_what did peer do man?10:55
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Russeldeltab: if you mean me, i mean refreshrate in framebuffer10:56
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B1zzgeez10:56
slopwtf10:56
B1zzwhat with these guys10:56
gnomefreakholy crap10:56
threadwtf10:56
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threadwtf wtf10:56
mortal5I have a question, I have some programs (such as gstreamer) that I want to remove from ubuntu, but it says that ubuntu-desktop depends upon it.  It looks like if i uninstall gstreamer, it will uninstall the entire desktop10:56
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fsanchohi all10:56
slopADMIN!10:56
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Jack_Sparrow!ops10:57
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ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!10:57
fsanchoi'm using dapper10:57
Rezslop: we're here.10:57
gnomefreakJack_Sparrow: right here10:57
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slopRez, k :)10:57
SeveasJack_Sparrow, ?10:57
Jack_SparrowSorry10:57
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Lunar_Lampi think it's been sorted now10:57
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ompaulthey are gon10:57
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kitchesomeone did DCC10:57
ompaulSeveas, it is done10:57
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pike_mortal5: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage go ahead and let it remove10:57
Seveasah10:57
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fsanchoi wan to use wammu or kmobiletools with bluetooth10:57
Jack_SparrowSeveral times10:57
Leminoi have som trouble with the character-encoding in centericq.10:57
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fsanchobut i cant find /dev/rfcomm010:57
slopRez, i just got DCC attacked :P10:57
SeveasJack_Sparrow, do NOT!!! call !ops for DCC exploiters10:57
fsanchoi have a usb bluetooth dongle10:57
RokueI'm trying to update and this pops up.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25690/10:57
Seveasthey are automatically K-lined10:57
THX-1138Hello Seveas.10:57
fsanchowith gnome-bluetooth works ok10:57
fsanchoi can send files10:57
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gnomefreaki didnt see the kline10:58
Leminono matter what I try I don't seem to be able to get swedish letters.10:58
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Jack_SparrowThanks, didnt know. but after 6 or 7 times I wasnt sure10:58
fsanchobut kmobiletools and wammu needs a device10:58
Lemino(diacritical)10:58
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fsanchobut i can't find any bluetooth device10:58
gnomefreakJack_Sparrow: i was here they were pinging the crap out of me10:58
MissLadyanyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.10:58
THX-1138Got to love freenode and the sysops here. - nice work guys.10:58
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slopcool10:58
Jack_SparrowSorry gnomefreak..10:58
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Russelhas ubuntu support for vesafb-tng enabled?10:59
kitcheyeah it's bots doing the DCC exploits just got about 5 in a row10:59
slopwhat is k-lined?10:59
insitesgiyf10:59
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threadslop: banned from server10:59
edgySeveas: can you explain this DCC in a simple way to be understood?10:59
slopah ok10:59
sureshotjack_Sarrow hey 2 things have you uploaded your crib sheet yet and do you know anything about cedega10:59
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THX-1138kitche - could be playing the numbers game betting some are logged in as root while getting set up.10:59
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pike_fsancho: i dont know much of anything about bluetooth but ive head good things about the kde tool as opposed to gnome11:00
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Seveas!exploit > edgy11:00
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Jack_Sparrowsureshot: No have not up'd the crib sheet and I dont do Wine, cdega or that other one..11:00
it2hello11:00
B1zzi think that they re coming back11:00
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Jack_Sparrowsureshot: I am finishing up my game... almost there11:00
it2i just installed ubuntu , it finaly works!!11:00
sureshotJack_sparrow sorry to nag you what game is that man11:01
it2now i want to copy an encrypted dvd, anyone who knows how?11:01
Jack_Sparrowsureshot: I am writing Sudoku for WIndows11:01
it2i just installed k3b, but it won't work:(11:01
THX-1138Cedega is a bit easier to use and feeds my addiction for WoW. - Ubutnu is cool.11:01
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sureshotthat is correct if you get it running send me a copy ok11:01
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JinRohHello11:02
pike_it2: cant you cat /dev/dvd > ~/dvd.iso  ?11:02
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Jack_Sparrowsureshot: It is working now..  JUst getting ready to see if the wife can crash it.11:02
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it2pike: no way to copy directly?11:02
THX-1138lol@Jack_11:02
sureshotsend it to me i bet my 11 year old can .... he can crash linux11:02
JinRohDoes anyone know why I can't install grub?? I have windows on a SDA hdd, and linux in HDA, grub installs on hd0, but grub screen doesn't appear at restart :(11:02
Jack_Sparrowsureshot: Not kidding, I can try to crash it for days and she can walk up and blow it away in seconds..11:03
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edgySeveas: thx for the clarification. It said "When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets." Which users would be removed?11:03
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sureshotTHS-1138 i cant get this cedega to update through the update wizard any ideas11:03
fyrestrtrJinRoh: what is the first boot disk?11:03
Seveasedgy, the victims11:03
TokenbadI have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is11:03
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pike_it2: dunno sorry11:03
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sureshoti am not either i run linux for ever he comes along and i have to reinstall11:03
edgySeveas: isn't the dcc disconnect those victims already?11:03
JinRohfyrestrtr,  I have linux in hda (trying to install)11:03
it2pike: np :p11:03
THX-1138The trick to freenode is to contribute a few dollars - they offer a service to conceal your ip address.11:03
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JinRohand windows in sda11:04
Seveasedgy, they reconnect immediately11:04
it2pike: i'll do a dep seaarch on the internet, there must be some kind of way11:04
KenSentMeHow do you switch to window 12 in irssi?11:04
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SeveasTHX-1138, please don't talk bullshit11:04
HibountuAm I at the right place to ask questions about edgy ?11:04
zugusometimes, after I close the VLC window in GNOME, the player continues to run in the background, and I have to do "killall wxvlc" to stop it; what could possibly cause such a behaviour?11:04
SeveasHibountu, #ubuntu+111:04
POVaddctKenSentMe: i think esc-a11:04
edgySeveas: ah! and how can you tell the victims? how can I tell whether I am a victim of it?11:04
apeman2020 /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off..... why?11:04
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Hibountuthanks11:04
Seveasedgy, you're not -- you weren't disconnected11:04
POVaddctKenSentMe: or esc-a11:05
THX-1138Seveas - ?? - I remember reading it a few months ago. during their fundraiser. - could i make that up?11:05
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POVaddctKenSentMe: sorry, esc-b11:05
SeveasTHX-1138, apparently11:05
yellow,,,11:05
codezeroi have a question...i have an ati mobility radeon 9200 vga card. I have installed fglrx drivers from repositories. I have also xgl and compiz. The problem is that it is really to slow and when 11:05
THX-1138!language11:05
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:05
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sureshotTHS-1138 i cant get this cedega to update through the update wizard any ideas11:05
codezeroI start my X session with fglrx drivers enabled..it is also relatively small11:05
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edgySeveas: ok but how can you tell the victims? why you don't allow them connect from beginning?11:05
codezeroany idea on what is going on?11:05
Seveasedgy, one can only tell after an attack ;)11:06
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edgySeveas: how?11:06
sureshotTHX-1138 i cant get this cedega to update through the update wizard any ideas11:06
sureshotsorry11:06
Seveasedgy, because they disconnect....11:06
codezerosmall=slow actually11:06
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Seveascodezero, glxinfo | grep dirct11:06
ompaul!timetable > trappist11:06
Seveascodezero, glxinfo | grep direct11:06
THX-1138sureshot -bad password/email address?11:06
edgySeveas: ah! but you did disconnect them in a very quick way. Just one by one?11:06
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|thundergod i love beryl soooooo  much more than compiz.  a million times easier to install to.11:06
Seveasdoes it say direct rendering: yes?11:06
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ompaultrappist, see if that helps with the none new stuff11:06
kitcheedgy: there is a fix to it connect to a different port11:07
trappistompaul: eh?11:07
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edgykitche: yes I got that11:07
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XiXaQhas anyone here used xrdp in order to connect to ubuntu using remote desktop connection in windows?11:07
edgySeveas: sorry for the may be stupid questions but this is my first time exposed to it. It's curiosity ;)11:07
edgySeveas: thx for all the clarifications11:07
sureshotTHX-1138 i can log in with the same info i just dont know i check all the depends and all checkes out ok i am at a loss11:07
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THX-1138sureshot - hm, it worked yeterday.11:08
sureshothow do i kill a locked up program11:08
ompaultrappist, you sent a message to the bot a while ago :)_11:08
|thunderXiXaQ; no, but i would like to connect to my windows box with it. that'd be nice.11:08
deltabsureshot: does it have a window open?11:08
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codezeroseveas: when i do that it says for direct rendering: no and for OpenGL Mesa GLX Indirect11:09
sureshotdeltab says it trying to download some ms fonts for cedega11:09
qatsidarn, this Sundance network card is driving me crazy...when i try to compile, i get make: *** No rule to make target 'all'. Stop. anyone knows why ?11:09
codezerobut at this session fglrx is not enabled and xgl not working11:09
Seveascodezero, then fglrx isn't working and compiz wil indeed b slow as hell11:09
paradizelosthowdy all, i'm trying to boot a sony desktop to the liveDVD, and it seems as though i'm getting translated ATA stat/err errors11:09
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deltabsureshot: and closing the window doesn't work?11:09
paradizelostanyone have any ideas?11:09
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codezeroseveas: i will enable fglrx and try this again to see the results11:10
ladydoorsureshot: killall -s KILL programname11:10
sureshotno it is not responsive11:10
codezeroSeveas, if fglrx is not enabled at that time too, what can i do to enable it?11:10
ladydoorsureshot: if you don't know the programname, you can use top to find out (look for something promising)11:10
POVaddctsureshot: open a terminal and type "xkill". the mouse cursor will change to a skull, then click on the window of the hanging app11:10
codezeroi change my /etc/X11/xorg.conf drivers section to fglrx11:10
sureshotladydoor if i type it as you wroted it would only kill cedega11:10
codezerofglrx is correctyl installed11:10
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Seveascodezero, you need to do more than that -- read the guide in the wiki11:10
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ladydoorsureshot: what's the program you're trying to kill?11:10
sureshotneed11:10
XiXaQ|thunder, I think so too. I now have ubuntu installed in vmware under windows in order to use rdp, cause I can't install anything at work.11:10
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sureshotcedega11:11
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sureshotladydoor cedega11:11
trappistompaul: ah yeah, my purpose was to explain why the way we do things is a good thing, and so on, but that page covers it all reasonably well.  thanks :)11:11
kitchesureshot: if it's a windows program is should gett killed after you kill cedega also11:11
ladydoorsureshot: ok...so what's the problem with killing cedega, then?11:11
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swashbucklinstevI'm having trouble updating or downloading any repository indexes, the connection keeps failing, I just installed via the OEM method. Any clues?11:11
ladydoorsureshot: (if cedega is what you want to kill)11:11
sureshotjust trying to install and set it up11:11
lostincIs there a good chess game for one player verse the computer11:11
POVaddctsureshot: if you want to be sure, type "ps axc | grep programname" and look at the PID (process id). then type: "kill process_id" and if that doesn't work "kill -9 process_id"11:12
sureshotladydoor yes i am week on syntax ok dont want to have to reset x again11:12
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: are you using the us. repositories (look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list to find out)11:12
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codezeroSeveas, actually i read it. there are 2 different guides..one is with many step...i choosed the other one...i installed fglrx drivers and compiz compiz-gnome xgl package...then i created an .Xsession file on my home folder and restarted my session11:12
paradizelostSeveas: can ya give me a hand? i'm getting ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCq 0x3/11/0411:12
codezerodo i have to do more than that?11:12
variantanyone know if you can name a partition with cfdisk or whatever like in windows? for example i want to call my partition bigmomma or somthing ?11:12
TokenbadI have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is11:12
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Seveascodezero, fglrx is not properly installed if you don't have direct rendering11:12
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swashbucklinstevladydoor: us.archive.ubuntu.com right ?11:12
ladydoorSeveas: ...wait, i'm confused. why would you have to restart x, and why did you spend so long figuring out the syntax?11:12
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deltabvariant: cfdisk doesn't, but it will display labels it finds11:13
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kitchevariant: you mean something like a label?11:13
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variantTokenbad: the latest version of gparted is much much better (its not in apt though, you have to install deps and compile the source)11:13
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ladydoorswashbucklinstev: aha. the us archives are often slow. first, back up your sources.list--in a terminal, type sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak11:13
deltabvariant: use e2label to set the labels of e2fs partitions11:13
variantdeltab: you know a gnu/linux program that will do it?11:13
heanol_i managed to get grub installed, but it wont boot.. grub just says error 2111:13
variantdeltab: excellent thanks11:13
|thundervariant; how bout you build it and add it to the repo11:13
|thunder;)11:13
variant|thunder: ye ye11:14
sureshothey that xkill works kinda nice thanks who ever and also thanks ladydoor as i said i am week in the syntax of this os been in ms for all of my life11:14
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: then do sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list to edit it, and take out the part that says ``us.'' (but *only* the ``us.''--nothing else!)11:14
codezeroSeveas, i will restart my X session and come back11:14
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ladydoorsureshot: i don't know what you mean, but ok.11:15
THX-1138Seveas -"Cloak"  http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml11:15
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sureshotladydoor i dont know how to use the ubuntu commands i have been a certifide mcse for like 15 years or so11:15
sureshoti was a network eeng for all of my life11:16
Tokenbadvariant, but how do I find the 30 gigs that is now missing?11:16
SeveasTHX-1138, a) cloaks don't require donations b) cloaks don't protect against the DCC attack11:16
ladydoorsureshot: ah. well, in that case it was just copy/paste.11:16
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amonke1i can't get direct rendering working with fglrx after much googling. i have a rad9250 which is covered by the drivers. i'm using the 8.28.8 driver.11:16
THX-1138Seveas - Ah, Okay.11:16
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ladydoorsureshot: it's important to learn...it'll make your life a lot easier.11:16
POVaddctsureshot: being a mcse is no excuse for not learning to work with the unix shell11:16
tomcatt!ubotu joystick11:16
variantTokenbad: you mean 30 gb of data is lost or 30 gb of hte partition is not visible? (the disk seems smaller than it is)?11:16
ubotujoystick: Testing and calibration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 20051019-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 72 kB11:16
codezeroSeveas, you are right fglrx and direct rendering is not working11:16
sureshoti am trying but cant teach an old dog new tricks very easy LOL11:16
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codezeroand i see Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".11:17
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codezerowhat should I do to correctly install fglrx? I did everything explained on the wiki?11:17
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SeveasPOVaddct, we have Minesweeper and Solitaire on Ubuntu too ;)11:17
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sureshotPOVaddct i am trying only had this runing for 4 weeks and have xgl and berly running and such11:17
variantlol, mcse is bs.. who cares about ms biztalk etc11:17
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POVaddctSeveas: hehehe11:17
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sureshotif anyone has any crib sheets they would like to email me let me know i will frame them11:18
POVaddctsureshot: xgl is totally unimportant. it's just eye candy, nothing more.11:18
THX-1138On the page it does look like cloak is related to a donation. - though it as you say would be no protection. - What is a cloak?11:18
geanhi again.. again desperately trying to install ubuntu on my laptop..11:18
Seveasvariant, being MCSE qualified is great for your career if you pursue a career as windows sysadmin11:18
Tokenbadvariant, the disk is smaller than it is11:18
sureshotbut it is a start11:18
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codezeroSeveas, any ideas?11:18
sureshoti did but hate windows i really hate ms11:18
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Seveascodezero, yes: properly install fglrx before trying xgl11:18
swallowIf anyone can help me, I'm having problem booting onto newly installed Ubuntu11:18
kitcheTHX-1138: it has to do with routers the routers have a bad exploit in them cloaks just stop hackers from getting IPs11:19
variantSeveas: yeah, good for the carrer i suppose11:19
deltabswallow: what's the problem?11:19
swallowI get error loading operating system error11:19
SeveasTHX-1138, try /whois Seveas11:19
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sureshotwell i have go and teach my wife and my best friend how to play guitar see ya all later11:19
qatsiwhile compiling some things, i get the error telling me that my .lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build directory dosnt exist...what should i do ?11:19
Seveasyou won't see my ip address, it's cloaked11:19
swallowI installed it in hdb11:19
geanwell, flash install didnt work.. booting went directly to the HD, the ``removable'' prepaired flash was simply not recognized as bootable ..11:19
variantTokenbad: well the updated gparted should help you find it.. but backup all your data as parted/gparted warn you to do before hand11:19
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collier_Can someone help me. I installed ircd-irc2 from synaptic and I type ircd in termainal and I get this11:19
collier_warning: different zlib version11:19
collier_binding stream socket irc.localhost[0.0.0.0@.6667] :Address already in use11:19
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Demon012anyone else having problems accessing www.ubuntuforums.org atm?11:19
swallowI manually selected the hdd from boot menu11:20
Seveasqatsi, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:20
THX-1138kitche - Thanks - The darndest thing happens everytime i log on here. - useful  knowledge11:20
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yellowhey guys11:20
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deltabMissLady: isit the computer you're using now or another one?11:20
kitchecollier_: port 6667 is used your connected though port 666711:20
yellowis there a way11:20
qatsiSeveas: i dont have internet, i cant install the linux-headers....11:20
Seveasqatsi, they're on the cd too11:20
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swallowno this isn't the computer i'm installing.11:20
MissLadywhy this question deltab ?11:20
yellowhey guys, is there a way to open a terminal where you are while browsing file  ?11:20
Seveasswallow, another IRCD is running and listening on port 666711:20
collier_kitche: well I installed ircd-hybrid put I removed it from synaptic and I guess its still running, how do I stop it?11:21
qatsiSeveas: ok, now, is there a way to open synaptic only using the cd ? because when i inserted it, linux asked me that, but now i dont know how to...11:21
MoriaeI am trying to connect to a printer that is on a windows box, I am very very unfamiliar with Ubuntu and linux in general, can anyone point me in the right direction.11:21
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variantTHX-1138: if you set up a fall back nick with nickserv you can just ask an irc staffer for a cloak.. i have one but im not identified at the momment11:21
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POVaddctladydoor: are you from germany? then you should know sven guckes, he is the text tools pope :)11:21
swallowI'm connected to 2 irc servers.11:21
variantTHX-1138: ask nicley :) thats what i did.. although it was a few years ago'11:21
geanwell, also windows install didn't work... had all that CD( of different distro)s in c: entirely copied in c:\ubuntu... but: the same problem showed up when rebooting from windows from ubuntu install inside: CD was not detected..11:21
deltabMissLady: if it's the machine you're using you might not be able to try things out without losing internet access temporarily11:21
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kitchecollier_: well it's in the initscripts but it's not running still see irc.freenode.net uses port 6667 so it can't opent he port for that irc server to use sicne you are already using it11:22
MissLadydeltab...11:22
qatsiSeveas: uhmm, forget it :p i found out how to...thank you very much for the help..11:22
THX-1138variant - Thanks - Would look at that, it happened again. - useful knowledge. ;)11:22
swashbucklinstevladydoor: Did that, still can't get a single thing through. I even removed all repositories from the list and added one to make sure11:22
ladydoorPOVaddct: i'm not from germany...i'm from the us (we're not all yahoos, i promise)11:22
ladydoorPOVaddct: thank you, though :-)11:22
geanjust one q: to HardDisk install, do i need a new partition, copy all CD entries there, AND NEVER NEED MY CD-ROM ?11:22
Winter-SoulsticeAnyone want to help me get my wirless lan card working using the linux native drivers?11:22
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Tokenbadvariant, trying to install the new gparted..says libuuid not installed but when tried to apt-get install libuuid1 it says newest is already installed11:23
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ladydoorswashbucklinstev: wait...ok, so you removed *more* than just the characters ``us.''?11:23
swashbucklinstevbah11:23
Seveasgean, please fix your caps lock key11:23
kitche!libuuid11:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libuuid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:23
geanseveas: sorry, it was intention..11:23
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: (is that what you mean?)11:23
swashbucklinstevladydoor: nay, just 'us."11:23
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deltabdoes anyone know why bonobo-activation-server and gnome-vfs-daemon would have my /dev/dsp open? I can't find anything about this on the web11:23
Winter-SoulsticeAnyone want to help me get my wirless lan card working using the linux native drivers?11:23
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THX-1138variant - Is using irssi with screen more dangerous than irssi. or just xchat?11:23
JapanFredevenin' all11:23
Winter-Soulsticehi11:24
MoriaeI'm attempting to print from my Ubuntu laptop, but my printer is connected to my windows PC. I have a network set up, but I have no clue how to locate the printer and print from it on my laptop. Can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction?11:24
swashbucklinstevladydoor: in the list of repositories in synaptic, I removed all the repositories and then added one11:24
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geanseveas, this is just a reflection of my desperated stadium of trying to install ubuntu..11:24
pike_Moriae: need to set it up to smb print i think never fooled with it though11:24
kitcheTHX-1138: screen with irssi is useful if you can stay logged on all the time you can hide the irc chats while you are away :)11:24
yellowhey guys, is there a way to open a terminal where you are while browsing file  ?11:24
MoriaePike, thanks for the answer.11:24
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lassegsi have a problem with my procsesor(pentium m) under edgy. When laptop is on A/C Power the proscessor always runs on 1.73(100%), without any processes using the CPU. How can i stop this?11:24
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: *whew*. ok, your internet is obviously working...try doing sudo apt-get update and paste its output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.com. also, would you mind pasting your sources.list? i'm a little confused :-)11:25
JapanFredAny ubuntu tweak masters here? am running ubuntu on a p3 500 256mb ram vaio, takes forever to boot, is there anything i can do?11:25
Seveaslassegs, file a bug11:25
SeveasJapanFred, use a faster pc 11:25
THX-1138Moriae - Using the graphical interface System .. Administration .. Printing ..  select windows printer samba smb11:25
swashbucklinstevladydoor: sure, no problem11:25
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lassegsSeveas: Yeah, in launchpad? Ive never done that before... :O11:25
JapanFredSeveas, hehe, i wish i could, but i cant afford a new laptop at the moment, i dont wanna install linux on my desktop just yet11:26
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Tokenbadvariant, any idea why it says its not installed when it is?11:26
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pike_JapanFred: take a look in /etc/init.d there is alot of stuff in there you dont need you can remove with sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove  Dont go crazy :)11:26
swallowWhen I installed Ubuntu, I let installer erase and set automatically one hdd. I have XP on another hdd but I don't want dual boot menu. I'm just planing on using boot menu provided by BIOS. So I selected Ubuntu installed hdd from BIOS boot menu but I get 'error loading operating system' error. What can I do now?11:26
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daryl_Excuse me, how do I add more resolution options to System | Preferences | Screen Resolution?11:27
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Seveasswallow, you'll need to install grub on the second harddisk11:27
Seveasdaryl_, you don't11:27
pike_JapanFred: but you prob dont want to run gnome on that machine. xubuntu would be better11:27
daryl_Seveas: right now the top one is 1024x768.  and I forgot to check the additional options when I was installing ubuntu11:27
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swallowDo I need to install it seperately? Isn't it installed automatically by installer by the way I installed it?11:28
JapanFredpike_, i couldn't figure out how to remove gnome/kde from this either, i wanna use xfce, but for the life of me i cant figure it out!!11:28
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swallowIf not how do I go about doing it?11:28
JapanFredpike_, am looking in the init.d now :) thankies11:28
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daryl_Seveas: if I remember right, its a Xserver option, and I can configure it from terminal...11:28
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THX-1138daryl_ - If you know what your display and adapter card are capable of you can safely edit xorg.conf  with the command sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  grab a sample form the 'Net - It is pretty straightforward.11:29
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swashbucklinstevladydoor: paste.ubuntu-nl.com seems down, http://rafb.net/paste/results/5xDza564.html11:30
SoulBlinkdoes ubuntu have a passwordless single user mode?11:30
geandaryl_ i usually had to restart xorg-reconfigure or so...11:30
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: it's just slow11:30
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daryl_THX-1138: yeah that rings a bell.  I remember there being a command line that starts the sam... yep gean just posted it11:30
daryl_thanks gean11:30
swashbucklinstevladydoor: ah, I probably have funky timeout issues or something11:31
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THX-1138daryl_ - You might also decide to run the configure script after turning of the graphical display manager sudo /etcinit.d/gdm stop hit ctrl+alt+backspace then log in at terminal (quick there is a timer) then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:31
THX-1138sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:32
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: probably. also, you need to close synaptic before doing sudo apt-get update...you might try it again with synaptic closed, and also post your sources.list (if you don't mind)11:32
JapanFreddo i need KDM and GDM?11:32
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swashbucklinstevladydoor: ah, apologies, I forgot to paste the sources.list11:32
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: no need to apologize!11:32
daryl_thx-1138 woot! that was exactly the command I've been trying to remember11:32
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THX-1138I need help with a sticky keyboard. Hey it isn't what you think! - spilled soda.11:33
pike_JapanFred: you can remove the links for them but unless you use like xinit or something youll have to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start whenever you boot the computer11:33
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acollinscan anyone tell me the best way to make sure the fglrx kernel module is loaded at boot time?11:33
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kitcheTHX-1138: unplug it run water on the board don't plug it in for 48 hours to let it dry11:33
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JapanFredpike_, but do i need both of them though? wont gdm just suffice?11:34
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gfxstylerhi11:34
femii need help with the setting my screen resolution with ubuntu 6.06 lts 386 desktop edition11:34
THX-1138kitche -  i need a new /nick  THX-1138+3 - Thanks again.11:34
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femianybody know howto?11:34
JapanFredpike_, but do i need both of them though? wont gdm just suffice?11:34
JapanFredpike_, sorry didnt mean to send tha tagain...11:35
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|CADE|hey - quick question11:35
femican anybody give me some help?11:35
|CADE|I'm getting ready to do another install11:35
pike_JapanFred: yes no reason to have both11:35
|CADE|I run reiserfs as / partition11:35
collier_I am having so much trouble setting this ircd-hybrid server up.. I edited the config to my needs, then I changed the motd and I restarted the server and the motd stayed the same and I keep trying11:35
fyrestrtr!fixres > femi11:35
|CADE|anyone have any suggestion for my /home partition? :)11:35
pike_JapanFred: but only one or the other should be set to run right now anyway11:36
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JapanFredpike_, yeah, just checked my proccesses and only gdm is running11:36
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JapanFredbrb, rebooting11:37
ELpH95owhat's up11:37
collier_kitche: the folder ircd-hybrid under /etc/ is unreadable and I cant delete it.11:37
C-O-L-Thello can somebody tell me where to get an alternate install cd guide? wiki?11:37
fyrestrtrC-O-L-T: its the same as the breezy installer.11:37
pike_JapanFred: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89491.html for a rundown of some of the scripts11:37
C-O-L-Tfyrestrtr: actually I am trying to install xubuntu. has the same installer like breezy badger in the old days11:38
C-O-L-T?11:38
fyrestrtryes, the installers are the same, the code is the same, hell the system is the same, the only thing different is the window manager / DE.11:38
collier_kitche: the folder ircd-hybrid under /etc/ is unreadable and I cant delete it.11:38
fyrestrtr|CADE|: ext311:38
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kitchecollier_: did you sudo ls in it11:39
THX-1138collier - is that file locked and in use?11:39
C-O-L-Tfyrestrtr: okay :D11:39
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C-O-L-Tfyrestrtr: thanks than11:39
fyrestrtrC-O-L-T: yeap :)11:39
ELpH95oUbuntu has turned me into a linux convert11:39
collier_kitche: no11:39
ELpH95oheh11:39
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ELpH95oonly thing is midi sequencing stuff isn't as good as in windows11:39
ELpH95oand blender crashes when i try to run it11:40
TokenbadI have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is11:40
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cyberfall__Tokenbad11:40
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ladydoorswashbucklinstev: (don't forget to send me the link :-) )11:41
cyberfalli got a question for someone11:41
THX-1138Tokenbad - were there any warnings about too many Primary partions? - i think 4 is the limit.11:41
cyberfalltryin to install glftpd and it wanting inetd11:41
swashbucklinstevladydoor: same results after closing synaptic except that apt-get doesn't mention anything about /var/lib/dpkg/lock ,  http://rafb.net/paste/results/4nrbCI89.html11:42
femii need help with my screen resolution:i want to lower it so as to see better my videos, but as soon as i lower it it becomes black and then ubuntu logs off and sets the resolution back to before11:42
kitchecyberfall: inetd is what peopel call a super server it starts the servers on boot sort of a service daemon11:42
femiand i can't change the frequency11:42
collier_kitche: this is not working, all I want to do is setup this irc server and ill be good11:42
Wulongcyberfall: rather use vsftpd or a sftp daemon.11:42
femiwhich i guess is the key to resolving my resolution problem11:42
cyberfallkitche,  ya i know that i found a varent to it11:42
femiplease.11:42
cyberfallfemi11:42
kitchecollier_: well you have to not use IRC for it to use port 666711:42
swashbucklinstevfemi: how about expanding the video window?11:43
kitchecyberfall: xinetd?11:43
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femiexpanding the video?what do you mean11:43
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collier_kitche: ohhh I got you brb then11:43
femiit blocks11:43
femiit freezes a lot11:43
swashbucklinstevfemi: what video player do you use?11:43
anon32question: if I deinstall totem, will that break video previews in nautilus?11:43
cyberfallin the systems preference there the screen resolution11:43
femiis it a problem concerning the fact that linux has a monolythic kernel?11:43
cyberfallif that dont change it im not sure how to reset it11:43
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femii use vlc player11:44
cyberfallkitche no11:44
femicause it's the only one that plays divx11:44
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: it sounds like it's an internet connection problem, because *in theory* that line should work. however, why don't you replace your sources.list with this (*definitely* working) one (which i'm pasting as we speak)11:44
femion my system11:44
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anon32question: if I deinstall totem, will that break video previews in nautilus?11:44
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cyberfallkitche,  inetutils-inetd11:44
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cyberfallvlc player is cool11:45
femii just want to know if it is possible to watch videos without them freezing or scattering11:45
THX-1138Hi femi - I don't comepletly understand why it is doing what it is. - sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to add resolutions or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to run through the display/adapter card script.11:45
cyberfallfemi what video card u got11:45
FlannelTHX-1138: gksudo11:45
anon32question: if I deinstall totem, will that break video previews in nautilus?11:45
femiwith windows they work just fine cause i got a good graphics card and a fast pc, quite11:45
anon32can anyone ask that?11:45
anon32answer*11:46
femii got a radeon 9200 with 256 mb ram11:46
swashbucklinstevladydoor: Indeed, I have very whimsical internet service :-D11:46
kromelwhat is the difference between gksudo and sudo?11:46
anon32gksudo is graphical11:46
THX-1138Flannel - I thought you only used the command line. lol - femi Flannel is right.11:46
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swashbucklinstevbrb11:46
WulongDoes it matter which distro I use (x|k)ubuntu to install a server? they are all the same, right?11:46
cyberfallfemi not sure then check to see if your driver is upto date11:46
THX-1138Hi Flannel11:46
Flannelanon32: I believe so, yes.11:46
kromelanon32, thanks.11:47
FlannelWulong: if you have a server install (with no GUI) then yes, perfectly identical.11:47
Winter-SoulsticeIf Im using dapper can i use beryl too?11:47
cyberfallkitche,11:47
der0bwulong: there's an ubuntu server as well.  it doesn't install a GUI11:47
anon32Flannel, in that case, can I at least get it to stop playing DVDs automatically?11:47
kitcheI m here cyberfall11:47
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Wulongder0b: yea, that was the one I was talking about. Don't want GUI.11:47
blindWinter-Soulstice: yes. i love it.11:47
cyberfallinetutils-inetd crazy11:47
FlannelWulong: If you want a server either grab the server CD, or the alternate ISO, and type "server" at the install prompt.  Depending on what you want kernel wise.11:47
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25695/11:47
femihow do i update my drivers in linux'i am new on the system11:48
cyberfallwell i ment the inetutils is what it says in etc/init.d11:48
FlannelWulong: I don't believe there are ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu server CDs, just an ubuntu one.11:48
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der0bwulong: you can download the iso for ubuntu server but I think the sever install on the standard ubuntu cd will get you the same thing11:48
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blind,11:48
FlannelWulong: If there are, they're different only in name11:48
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kromelanyone else here that run xgl-compiz find that after a bit, you get a physical headache?  I had to remove it because of it.11:48
WulongFlannel: there are, on the alternative CD's. Yea, thats what I thought.11:48
kitchecyberfall: I think that is inetd since I onyl know of one alternative to inetd11:48
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anon32can someone tell me how to get totem to not play DVDs/CDs automatically? that's getting kind of irritating11:49
cyberfallya xinetd11:49
FlannelWulong: well, yeah, the alternate CDs, but the end result is the same11:49
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ladydoorswashbucklinstev: try that sources.list, do sudo apt-get update, and see if it spits out errors. if so, it's a connetion problem of some kind.11:49
cyberfallbut do i need to make a link to that file to fix it11:49
baratahow to install dvd::rip? is it actually dvdrip?11:49
cyberfallor just rename the file and hope it dont mess something up11:49
anon32can someone tell me how to get totem to not play DVDs/CDs automatically? that's getting kind of irritating11:49
Dr_willis!info dvdrip11:50
WulongAlso, after server install I get a ath0 and wifi0 device, which is related to eth1. Works under install, but not after install. Is this normal? haven't seen to much on it though11:50
ubotudvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB11:50
ladydooranon32: so is repeating your question after less than a minute.11:50
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femihow do i update my device driver on ubuntu?11:50
anon32well11:50
cyberfallhehe ladydoor11:50
anon32nobody ever wants to answer me11:50
cyberfallfemi11:50
ELpH95oError: Rage 128 timed out... exiting11:50
ELpH95oi get that when i try to run Blender11:50
femiyea11:50
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cyberfalluse the synaptic package manager11:50
blind!patience > anon3211:50
whyameyeIs there a quicktime plugin for Firefox?11:51
whyameye!quicktime11:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:51
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swashbucklinstevah, hope I didn't miss anything11:51
THX-1138!irssi11:51
ubotuirssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )11:51
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whyameye!quicktime11:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:52
Flanneler, irssi is already installed... someone should update that factoid11:52
puffAfternoon.  I"m starting to use the terminal tabs in the xterminal;  I tried to change the shortcut for switching betwewen tabs to match firefox tabbing (ctrl-tab for next, shift-ctrl-tab for prev) but that just marks it as "disabled11:52
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THX-1138Flannel - yes, Thats why i checked. - ubotu is an amnesiac11:52
femisynaptic manager which section?system?11:52
|CADE|how do you determine the UUID of a device?11:53
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anon32can someone tell me how to get totem to not play DVDs/CDs automatically? at least you can turn autoplay off in Windows..11:53
cyberfallfemi,  yes11:53
cyberfallunder administration11:53
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ladydoorswashbucklinstev: any luck?11:53
POVaddct|CADE|: if the device has ext2 or ext3 filesystem: tune2fs -l /dev/hdX11:54
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femimultiverse, universe or basic?11:54
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pike_anon32: im curious does totem automatically start when you put a dvd in?11:54
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|CADE|POVaddct: it's JFS11:55
swashbucklinstevladydoor: not yet, I may have missed anything you said since you mentioned your sources.list, I had to reboot. still seeing apt-get failing to connect11:55
POVaddct|CADE|: then i don't know11:55
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THX-1138Is there Kernel patch to add a device unseen by the BIOS? (3 video adapters only 2 are seen 1 onboard 1 pcie)11:55
anon32pike_, yes11:55
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ladydoorswashbucklinstev: why did you have to reboot?11:56
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: and did you try the one i put in pastebin?11:56
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THX-1138anon32 - There is a kernel patch?11:56
madrilehola11:56
TokenbadTHX-1138, no...it was only 1 partition before...then wanted to add another from the free space on the one..11:56
Tokenbadcyberfall, yes?11:56
collier_kitche: I am trying lots of irc servers, none are working11:56
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madrile#mac11:56
ladydooranon32: i think you can configure that in gnome-volume-manager11:56
anon32THX-1138, sorry?11:56
ladydooranon32: (turning off the dvd thing)11:56
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collier_kitche: for the one I just tryed i got this error E: rageircd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 111:57
THX-1138anon32 - I am easily confused. pardon the bios question.11:57
POVaddctmadrile: yes, you can put ubuntu on a mac too :)11:57
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pike_anon32: first thing i do is switch out totem for mplayer and i use vlc for streaming stuff but its not a bad player11:57
anon32volume manager? geez... real intuitive11:57
whyameye!wine11:57
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:57
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anon32pike_, but does deinstalling totem break thumbnails?11:58
swashbucklinstevladydoor: the cpu frequency scaling monitor didn't like being clicked on for some reason. I don't think i caught the URL for your sources.list, I'll check the index11:58
blindanon32: have you gotten your answer?11:58
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kitchecollier_: that error has to deal with APT11:58
anon32um, running "gnome-volume-manager" does nothing11:58
blindif you run gnome-volume-manager you can disable the autoplay in there11:58
blinddoes nothing?11:58
anon32blind: no11:58
linnuxxyI have motherboard gigabyte ga-8i925xe-g... 1 sata HDD... 1 IDE HDD... and 1 IDE CD-ROM drive .... in windows everything works just fine... in dapper... i can't access the IDE HDD... although there is a /dev/hdb1..511:58
blindrun it from terminal11:58
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pike_anon32: not sure nautilus is also a casualty11:58
collier_kitche: what is that?11:58
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anon32it just runs and closes... do I need to pass it any args?11:59
collier_kitche: Now whenever I try to install something I get this E: rageircd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 111:59
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blindanon32: it should pop up a gui11:59
anon32pike_, um, what file manager do you use then?11:59
kitchecollier_: yeah it has to deal with rageircd did you uninstall it?11:59
blablawhich nick do you prefer between foo_bar_foo and fo0bar11:59
collier_kitche: uninstall? you mean remove?12:00
kitcheyeah12:00
anon32blind, it doesn't, do I need to sudo?12:00
blindanon32: i don't think so O_o12:00
collier_kitche: it wont let me it keeps giving me that error12:00
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pike_anon32: do me a favor and uninstall it im curious now :)12:00
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