zmotrappist - actually I'd like to get some FAQ/Howto/whatever RFTM about it12:01
rukuarticCaptain_Redbeard: Look around on the internet for one, download the package from their site and get the .conf from there?12:01
Dr_willisCaptain_Redbeard,  search the repos.. theres a kxdocker data package as well12:01
zmotrappist - that didn't work out12:01
cpk2Dr_willis: who says I've been worrying this whole time haha, I have music playing ya know =P12:01
zmoI have to load the sblive module first12:01
trappistzmo: no, it won't when your card isn't in /proc/asound/cards12:01
Captain_RedbeardDr_willis: isntalled it already... no difference12:01
zmothat's the only way12:01
physicsnickguys? how do i view my syslog?12:01
zmowhen it is in /proc/asound/cards12:01
Dr_williscpk2,  listing to the latest Weird AL cd eh.12:01
pike_AgEnT-0016: once you do it though there is no going back you might if you have freespace just install it to another partition and then copy over your home dir12:01
zmophysicsnick - less /var/log/syslog12:01
rukuarticphysicsnick: dmesg12:01
physicsnickzmo, rukuartic, thanks12:01
avagantguys is /home/skt suppose to have like 1000 files in it?12:02
avagantBecause it's MY name?12:02
rukuarticphysicsnick: Not sure what dmesg actualy does, I'm pretty sure its syslog. any check zmo?12:02
avagantor my usr name or whatever?12:02
cpk2Dr_willis: I heard it was good but, no12:02
AgEnT-0016spike_ is this safe? i mean, is it as stable as drake?12:02
zmothere are so many modules loaded, that I'm damn lost12:02
Dr_willisCaptain_Redbeard,  i installed them both and it worked for me.. another guy had similer issue and installed both and then it worked... kxdocker sort of SUCKS anyway :P to be honest12:02
trappistzmo: also gnome is rumored to have a pretty good interface for all of this, but I don't use gnome so I can't help with that12:02
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cpk2I'll put it on my to get list12:02
zmotrappist - gnome sucks pretty much about it for now12:02
avagantis it possible get rid of gnome and have the kde only?12:02
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zmothere's even a launchpad about that12:02
likewhoa54my xorg.conf file needs to be generated on the fly for each individual workstation that boots up off the network12:02
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GigaClonmy gcc 3.3 is broken I get this, gcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory12:03
zmobut gnome 2.16 has the fix :)12:03
Captain_RedbeardDr_willis: ok? do you have anything else to roccomend? to use as a bar that is?12:03
likewhoa54using nfs boot....need to make an xorg.conf on the fly, can anyone suggest a direction to look in?12:03
Dr_willisavagant,  yes - but its a hassle12:03
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TheMoebiusi thought compiz/Xgl was supposed to be included in edgy by default. is this not the case?12:03
zmothink I'm gonna rebuild the alsa-base file12:03
Dr_willisCaptain_Redbeard,  i just use the normal kde panel.. i hate the actual OS-X funky dock.12:03
avagantDr_willis: Cause I have both, and I don't know if that's why my gb's went down like...2 gb's.12:03
trappistTheMoebius: no, it's not ready for that yet12:03
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zmobut noone has hints about the modprobe.d thing ?12:03
zmoI don't like to use things I don't understand fully12:03
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Dr_willisavagant,  they both take up some space.. but not a huge amount.12:03
zmoand rebuilding it and not repairing it myself would be a failure to me12:04
knixtechneed help guys, when i do apt-get install electricsheep, i get "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:04
knixtech  Major opcode:  14512:04
knixtech  Minor opcode:  312:04
knixtech  Resource id:  0x012:04
knixtechFailed to open device12:04
knixtechDESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.12:04
knixtechSelecting previously deselected package electricsheep.12:04
knixtech(Reading database ... 84177 files and directories currently installed.)12:04
knixtechUnpacking electricsheep (from .../electricsheep_2.6.4-2ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... "12:04
Captain_RedbeardDr_willis: it's a bit boring.. I'm into styling my desktop as of now... :)12:04
pike_!paste > knixtech12:04
trappistzmo: what was the modprobe.d question? (disclaimer: I probably can't help)12:04
Dr_willisCaptain_Redbeard,  uselesw eye candy.. good luck.12:04
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Captain_RedbeardDr_willis: I just got myself a dualcore amd64 and I want to see how much shit I can put on it before it starts complaining about load :)12:04
zmotrappist - well, do you have any documentation that talk about that, especially in ubuntu ?12:04
zmoI'd like to understand what's all those aliases and options for12:05
Millethanks an yway. cya tomorrow everyone. nn12:05
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TheMoebiusif I install the compiz and xgl packages on edgy will it automatically configure it, or will I still have to hack it to get it working like in dapper?12:05
zmoand there should be somewhere some kind of mini-howto or something12:05
knixtechplease help12:05
zmobut I didn't find one12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
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trappistzmo: no, afaik there is none.  the kernel devs seem to go to some trouble to ensure that you a) don't have to, and b) can't, mess with the kernel or its modules12:06
CaptainMorganfolks - so I did sudo apt-remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and have finished the downloading, with an error at the end concerning a connection.. looks like 99% was downloaded.. do I just continue? what do I need to do? restart X ? to see Gnome back?12:06
zmotrappist - but they should not12:06
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theacolyteWell, you'll all be pleased to know I got the dual head part working, so you can breath now -- quick question though. I want to switch which is the "primary" screen, is there an easy way to do that?12:06
zmotrappist - they can't rely on other abstractions12:06
avagantDr_willis: Well is /home/skt suppose to have like 9000 files in it?12:06
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avagantDr_willis: Because skt is my user name.12:06
avagantDr_willis: But when I click into /home/skt only 3 files show.12:07
zmoI mean, I used modules.conf for years, and never had any trouble using it12:07
knixtechelectric sheep help  -  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:07
zmonow I'm using Ubuntu and I get troubles12:07
Dr_willisavagant,  ls -al12:07
matt8806suomiwhen i click the logout button, it takes me to the login screen without displaying a screen asking option like: switch user, lock screen, logout, restart, suspend, hibernate, shutdown!! can anyone help??12:07
avagantin /home/skt?12:07
avagantthat would take a long time. haha12:07
kitchezmo: well modules.conf isn't really used anymore it's for older kernels12:07
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zmokitche - yup12:07
ubotumodule-init-tools: tools for managing Linux kernel modules. In component main, is important. Version 3.2.2-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 76 kB, installed size 316 kB12:08
trappistzmo: preaching to the choir, there12:08
Dr_willismatt8806suomi,  did you login to X using gdm/kdm/ or the shell?12:08
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theacolyteHow is primary and secondary monitors specified in xorg.conf?12:08
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zmotrappist - uhuh :)12:08
theacolyteare, rather12:08
rukuarticAnyway to get usplash to work with initng?12:08
matt8806suomiit automatically starts the gui when it boots12:08
zmoand whatever my problem is12:09
avagantmaybe i'm just reading something wrong.12:09
zmoit's just a matter of understanding what's wrong12:09
avagantthis kde menu is kinda confusing when it comes to searching for my files.12:09
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matt8806suomiDr_willis: it automatically starts the gui when it boots12:09
sladenrukuartic: usplash just depends on a framebuffer and lsb12:09
slaramy girlfriend need to make a talk about ubuntu12:09
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slaraand she needs slides for the presentation12:10
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zmowell reinstalling alsa-base12:10
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Dr_willismatt8806suomi,  you are refering to GDM? or are you saying it auto-logins to the user?12:11
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GreenLanternrukaurtic: i have the lsusb number12:11
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matt8806suomiDr_willis:   auto logins in after 3o seconds with a gui12:12
CaptainMorganfolks - so I did sudo apt-remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and have finished the downloading, with an error at the end concerning a connection.. looks like 99% was downloaded.. do I just continue? what do I need to do? restart X ? to see Gnome back?12:12
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GreenLanterni need some help with a wireless card.  It's linksys.12:12
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Dr_willismatt8806suomi,  i am guessing the autologin feature is disablign that stuff then12:13
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avagantIs there a way to list all the programs installed when not on the command line?12:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.12:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linksys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:14
rukuarticGreenLantern: here12:14
GreenLanternoh good.  What now?12:14
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rukuarticGreenLantern: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?action=show&redirect=SetupNdiswrapperHowto12:14
rukuarticGreenLantern: Thats a complete tutorial on how to get it working12:14
knixtechanyone help with electric sheep issue  -http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:14
matt8806suomiDr_willis: what other causes would there be cause i has been doing it longer than i have had "timed login" setup12:14
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physicsnickquestion, i just set up ddclient to update my ip address. but i can't get the damn thing to output any sort of log messages whatsoever12:14
GreenLanternand i will need the lsusb number?12:14
physicsnickhow do i know if it's working?12:14
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rukuarticGreenLantern: Yep, just follow through the thing completely12:15
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porkpiewhat kernel is dapper running12:15
rukuarticporkpie: uname -r12:15
noumaani think that by changing some keys in us  layout in /etc/x11/xkb/symbols i can assign the shift role to someother key is this possible/12:15
noumaanmy keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key12:15
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CaptainMorganam I set on ignore or something?12:16
rukuarticporkpie: I'm 2.6.15-27-38612:16
GreenLanternrukuartic: How can I be sure that it's not working already?  Because honestly, I don't know.12:16
holycowCaptainMorgan, do ya wanna be?12:16
knixtechCaptainMorgan, so am i , ;)12:16
CaptainMorganI did sudo apt-get remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, restarted X server and see no changes in the type of sessions available12:16
rukuarticGreenLantern: You can try "ifconfig" to see what interfaces you are, and then "iwlist (interface) scan"12:16
holycowme signs up CaptainMorgan and Captain_Redbeard  for battle of the pirates12:16
CaptainMorganholycow !12:17
rukuarticGreenLantern: But if it doesn't work, then you probably won't find stuff.12:17
rukuarticGreenLantern: Sorry, if you don't find stuff, it won't work, and you need to follow the tutorial.12:17
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Captain_RedbeardYarr ;)12:17
holycowheh :)12:17
CaptainMorganhow do I get Gnome without reinstalling??12:17
knixtechplease guys, there 900 people in here, and no responses   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/12:18
Captain_Redbeardneed to use the bathroom for a bit... but when I'm back you better keep that rapier ready ;)12:18
CaptainMorganim sick of KDE12:18
holycowCaptainMorgan, well just reinstall gnome12:18
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnomedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
CaptainMorgannice one holycow12:18
holycowsearch for gnome desktop something or other, you will recognize it when you see it12:18
holycowthat will pull in all the gnome stuff12:18
holycowand then log out, select gnome on the bottom left hand side as your default de and log back in12:19
GreenLanternrukuartic: what should i see with ifconfig andiwlist12:19
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knixtecham i a ghost?12:19
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rukuarticGreenLantern: Ok, type iwconfig. you might see things like "eth0" or "wlan0" or something... try going "iwlist eth0 scan" or "iwlist wlan0 scan"12:19
CaptainMorganholycow:  bottom left?12:20
holycowyou haveto logout first12:20
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holycowoh christ12:21
holycowwe need a wpa supplicant interface12:21
CaptainMorganalready did after the command I listed above12:21
jkku3holy spirit12:21
holycowCaptainMorgan, you couldn't of possibly installed gnome already12:21
theacolyteWow, I'm at a loss. How can I set which monitor is the "primary" in xorg.conf?12:21
holycowthat will take well over an hour on adsl12:21
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CaptainMorganholycow: took over an hour to dl12:21
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holycowbut you asked 3 minutes ago?12:22
tamacrackerHey guys?... How do I ping someone?12:22
CaptainMorganbecause I had already applied that ocmmand!12:22
rukuartictamacracker: ping <host>12:22
holycow*cough* wee bit of lag?12:22
tamacrackerthrough terminal?12:22
CaptainMorganwhich is why I asked if I was being ignored12:22
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rukuartictamacracker: Yep :) You could also use some gui tool, don't know which one it is though./12:22
holycowCaptainMorgan, can i ignore you too?12:22
frojndtopic... who is Lilo ?12:22
Phlostentamacracker: or System->Administration->Network Tools12:22
holycowwhat command was that i don't feel like scrolling12:23
rukuartictamacracker: Phlosten beat me to it12:23
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tamacrackercool let me check it out hold on12:23
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.12:23
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Phlostenfrojnd: lilo was the founder of freenode12:23
Subhumanfrojnd, no lilo was the "owner" of freenode.... the irc server your using now.12:23
kitchefrojnd: he ran freenode12:24
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CaptainMorganholycow: sudo apt-get remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:24
theacolyteOne of the nicest people you'd ever meet12:24
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LilRayRay<LilRayRay> hi all, I am trying to install a D-Link WUA-1340 under ubuntu using ndiswrapper.  I extracted the .inf .sys and .bin file from my Windows D-link exe.  This driver doesnt seem to work (It says that the driver is incorrect).  Could someone help?12:24
holycowlol thats not a good idea12:24
frojndwhat is he dead or smth12:24
CaptainMorganerr.. maybe I missed the sudo in the second half?12:24
holycowyou should of installed gnome first, made sure it worked then removed kde12:24
holycowyou didn't actually remove kde12:24
holycowyou removed the metapackage12:24
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tamacrackerOk one more question Phlosten12:25
holycowkde is still there... you will need to remove one of the main kde libs to pull everything out so you are still good12:25
CaptainMorganplease oblige to the right commmand?12:25
tamacrackerHow do I check if I'm being pinged?12:25
holycowlog out, select session i think, and select gnome desktop it should appear in a list there next to kde12:25
CaptainMorgansudo apt-get install gnome? or ubuntu-desktop?12:25
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CaptainMorganholycow:  in that list gnome is NOT listed12:25
Phlostentamacracker: no idea12:25
CaptainMorganonly default, kde, and X stuff12:25
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CaptainMorganI know for a fact there's no Gnome option12:26
CaptainMorgandid I need to have sudo before the second half command?12:26
CaptainMorgancuz I ddn't apply it12:26
tamacrackerthere's no way to check if im gettin pinged?12:26
CaptainMorganalright, Ill try that12:26
tamacrackeror atleast block a ping from a known IP address?12:26
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CaptainMorgansorry, holycow I just checked terminal history, I DID have sudo there, but in typing here in Konversation I forget to type it12:27
avagantwhat's the gk thing for kde?12:27
holycowsounds like gnome is installed.12:27
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CaptainMorganhow do I access it? Im running the command again just to be safe12:28
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holycowCaptain_Redbeard, oh wait ...12:28
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holycoware using kdm instead of gdm?12:28
avagantlike i can go alt f2 and get run command what's the gksudo for kde?12:28
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holycowtry sudo apt-get install gdm12:28
Crippy-BoyLo all12:28
noumaanmy keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key12:29
holycowthat should install the gnome display manager12:29
CaptainMorganfunny.. after tyring for the second time, it asked me if I want to use kdm, or gdm.. so i chose gdm12:29
avaganti have to figure out why i suddenly lost 2gb's.12:29
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dmglouishow do I ping in terminal?12:29
frojndhej guys, where can I find some channels that are mentioned just for chatting..12:29
avagantall those random apps i'm installing. haha12:29
CaptainMorganthe first time it didn't ask12:29
Crippy-BoyHow would i install windows(on a seperate) partition without it fucking up my mbr and/or xubuntu install?  (i need to install windows for college)12:29
kitchefrojnd: #freenode-social #ubuntu-offtopic is two12:30
avaganti wish there was a way to list what apps i had without going through all the apps in the package manager.12:30
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holycowremove kdm altogether, i don't know why it wouldn't show gnome its usually pretty good12:30
RickHhi all12:30
dmglouiscan someone help me?12:31
Crippy-Boydmglouis, with?12:31
holycowping ip.ad.dr.ess12:31
KirbyI have a problem, im not sure what i did but now the boot loader shows 2 Ubuntu's... both the same12:31
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dmglouishow do i ping in erminal12:31
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Crippy-Boyping -c 3 <host>12:31
stu_Kirby: are you sure they are exactly the same, one digit might be different12:31
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CaptainMorganholycow: it's running a different install than last time... with the option of gdm being applied.. so in 45 minutes I should see Gnome among th list in session12:31
CaptainMorganthanks dude12:32
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Kirbywell, was there an update that made a new one?12:32
CaptainMorganor dudet12:32
stu_Kirby: quite possibly12:32
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dmglouishow do I make it only a particular # of requests12:32
lschey guys where do i find my 3d driver for intel 810 ?12:32
holycowno worries12:32
Kirbyi never installed anything new. i was messing with mounts right before that happened12:32
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RickHany idea why ubuntu live cd would lock up?....edubuntu runs fine12:32
lschey guys where do i find my 3d driver for intel 810 ?12:33
dmglouisnever mind12:33
RickHon live cd12:33
linusHimselfhi al12:33
Kirbyok, IF 1 digit WAS different, how can i move windows XP to the top of the boot loader list12:33
Kirbyand how can i remove the 10 second timer12:33
Crippy-BoyKirby, look in /boot/grub/menu.lst12:33
linusHimselfi massed up my X while trying to install xgl/mopix12:33
Kirbyok =D12:34
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sivikanyone here use gnomad2>=2.8.5?12:34
Crippy-BoyKirby, back it up before changing it though12:34
Kirbyis that where i remove the timer? Crippy-Boy12:34
holycowlinusHimself, thats alpha software, its only meant as an excercise to see if it can be done.  yeah it will hose your system (not really it can be fixed with hard work) but reinstall12:34
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Crippy-BoyKirby theres a 'timeout' line in menu.lst, Alter that to what you want12:35
holycowby reinstall i mean to say its far far easier and faster than mucking around reconstructing the x and desktop stuff12:35
avagantWow maybe I should delete kde. How hard is it to delete kde-desktop without running the programs you have?12:35
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avagantOr will I have to reinstall amarok agian, the only thing media player i like now.12:35
Kirbyok thanks, ill be back.. =D12:35
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Crippy-BoyCan anyone answer my question?12:35
Kirbyif nothing is wrong.12:36
linusHimselfgood idea..12:36
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Kirbyi meant, if i have anymore problems12:36
Crippy-BoyHow would i install windows(on a seperate) partition without it messing up my mbr and/or xubuntu install?  (i need to install windows for college)12:36
Crippy-BoyI dont wanna mess around reinstalling grub and such :(12:36
linusHimselfit shouldnt be a problem12:36
Phlostenwindows will always stuff your mbr12:36
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linusHimselfjust resize ur current primary partition12:36
RickHCrippy-Boy, why would you need windoze?12:36
Rastalinus itself!12:36
holycowCrippy-Boy, you cannot install windows AFTER installing any other os on the hd first12:36
PhlostenCrippy-Boy: why not use vmware?12:36
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holycowmicrosoft seems to think tha tits the only os on th eplanet and it overwrite the bootsector12:37
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sivikafter i run ./configure, i need to run make and make install correct12:37
Crippy-BoyBecause i need it for college12:37
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tamacrackerCan it be possible to trace and block an IP address that's trying to flood your connection?12:37
odyssevstamacracker, absolutely.12:37
holycowthe easiest way is to install windows first on what would be the primary c partition, then install ubuntu after ... gnome will recognize windows and let you select options for install12:37
linusHimselfso the bootloader will b removed, it could b later reinstalled12:37
linusHimselfthe hard way12:37
Crippy-Boyand im on a 1.4ghz powerbook, I dont wanna use a virtual machine.12:37
siviktamacracker, are you using a router of some sort?12:37
RickHCrippy-Boy, what will win do that linux won't?12:37
tamacrackercan you teach me how odysseys12:37
odyssevstamacracker, I have the majority of the Pacific and Asia blocked.12:38
tamacrackernope... no router12:38
odyssevstamacracker, which distro/etc are you on?12:38
tamacrackerUbuntu Drake12:38
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linusHimselfjust wondering, is there a Triliian version 4 linux?12:38
siviktamacracker, thats rather outdated12:38
odyssevsIs iptables on drake?12:38
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Crippy-BoyListen, I came here to ask for advice not to be questioned, I need windows because theres alot of windows only software i need for college which the chances are wont work with wine and its far easier for me to just dual boot.12:38
odyssevstamacracker, before we waste time, apt-get install chkrootkit and then run it.12:39
tamacrackeroh sorry12:39
faceprinti'm getting an X crash whenever i close the lid on my laptop in edgy...anyone else seeing this?12:39
sivikCrippy-Boy, what are these windows only programs?12:39
tamacrackeri have Dapper Drake12:39
SinnerGsivik: don't try .. :P12:39
marshallintel helping people switch from windows: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-roadmap.html12:39
sivikSinnerG, don't try what?12:39
holycowactually he's kinda right12:39
SinnerGgo into a discussion :p12:39
holycowlets not question the dudes intentions too much :)12:39
sivikSinnerG, discussion about what?12:39
sivikCrippy-Boy, what programs?12:39
holycowlet's support him12:39
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Crippy-BoyMacromedia studio, Groupwise, and a bunch of other stuff.12:40
LeeJunFanis there a way to locally search non-installed packages for files they contain locally? So I don't have to wait 15 mins for results on packages.ubuntulinux.org?12:40
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SinnerGsivik: we'll see :p12:40
sivikSinnerG, discussion about what?12:40
tamacrackerhey odyssevs: sude apt-get install chkrootkit12:40
tamacrackerbash: sude: command not found12:40
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SinnerGfyi, I'm a windows user with an ubuntu dedi server ;)12:40
RickHCrippy-Boy, just curious...here trying to learn as well...i haven't found any issues with win based stuff as yet....they either run or there is a replacement12:40
PhlostenCrippy-Boy: i personally find vmware-server the best option for those must have windows tasks12:40
odyssevstamacracker, sudo12:40
theacolyteCan anyone look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25605/ and tell me why my External LCD (Screen 0 in server layout) is still not the primary sccreen?12:40
odyssevstamacracker, just cut the crap and use sudo -s12:40
SinnerGI tried ubuntu before, but indead soem stuff I couldnt run and I dont like to dual boot :p12:40
tamacrackerah crap12:40
tamacrackeri typed it wrong lol12:40
SinnerGI'm trying vista atm ;p12:40
odyssevstamacracker, gets you into root mode. you'll be sudoing all day otherwise.12:40
avagantwhoa my computer just suddenly started to lag.12:40
SinnerG(I dont own a legal copy of windows, so the vista beta is as legal I can get :p)12:41
linusHimselfhow is Vista?12:41
tamacrackeryeah :)12:41
statikeffeckQuestion about the "Search for Files" feature: How do I search for ALL files even if I don't have access?12:41
theacolyteVista isn't bad at all12:41
tamacrackerFuck WIndows Vista.12:41
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SinnerGits okay, a bit to much security :p12:41
odyssevsDoes anyone know who owns Microsoft?12:41
theacolyteI use it on my other machine12:41
tamacrackerThe new Linux is alot iller12:41
SinnerGthe shareholders?12:41
Crippy-BoyI use linux all of the time, i havent touched windows in years, Your trying to preach to the converted, But the point is it'd be far simpler and faster for me to just install windows and i dont wanna virtualise on my crappy laptop.12:41
DBOtamacracker, please watch your language12:41
theacolyteAnd it's no more security than Ubuntu asking for the root password to do anything12:41
odyssevsFriend (not one for pulling my leg) remarked it was 87% US government owned. I'd sure like to see something to back that up (or otherwise).12:41
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tamacrackeroops sorry, New linux: Kororaa12:42
sivikodyssevs, what do you mean by owns?12:42
holycowdudes Crippy-Boy is right.  sometimes a means to an end is fine.  give him some breathing room :)12:42
linusHimselfcan we still get vista or are they finished with the beta?12:42
likewhoa54theacolyte: :(12:42
theacolyteI'm pretty sure you can still get it12:42
PhlostenCrippy-Boy: install windows, which will overwrite your mbr, boot with ubuntu live cd, and resurrect your mbr12:42
SinnerGbeta is finished12:42
odyssevssivik, shareholder wise.12:42
theacolyteI got it through my Technet subscription though12:42
holycowafter he gets out of college he will be installing linux at every job he gets :)12:42
SinnerGI got a legal key12:42
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SinnerGyou can still 'get' it tho ;)12:42
gnomefreakcan you guys please stay on topic or join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue the MS talk12:42
odyssevstamacracker, let me know when you've run chkrootkit.12:42
SinnerGI'm waiting for RC2 :P12:42
sivikodyssevs, not sure12:42
tamacrackerVista = owned by patriot act :x12:42
SinnerGokay gnome, if someone is there atleast ;p12:42
odyssevsgnomefreak, how about some gnomechat?12:42
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Crippy-BoyPhlosten, Thanks for the straight answer, thats what i suspected but i thought there may be a way around it. but thanks.12:43
linusHimselfok ok...12:43
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gnomefreakodyssevs: if it has to do with support feel free to ask12:43
sivikCrippy-Boy, are some of those must use programs office stuff?12:43
fgh_locan someone point me to a howto or guide for squid?12:43
tamacrackerodyssevs, how do I run the chkrootkit?12:43
Crippy-BoyI wish i could always dictate to what software/os i run but im not going to get far in a career and/or education with that attitude.12:43
ubotusquid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.12-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2108 kB12:43
linusHimselfI have to say that until i say gnome i never thought about moving to Linux,12:43
odyssevsgnomefreak, it looks uncannily like windows =P12:43
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theacolytegnomefreak: can you look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25605/ and tell me why my External LCD (Screen 0 in server layout) is still not the primary sccreen?12:43
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linusHimselfGUI is importent 2 me12:43
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odyssevstamacracker, type the name and hit enter (after installing it).12:43
sivikfgh_lo, try either wiki.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org12:43
RickHCrippy-Boy, sorry if i sounded "preachy"...didn't mean to ruffle feathers....just trying to learn if something specific didn't work12:43
holycowCrippy-Boy, not quite true, but partially12:43
gnomefreakodyssevs: that is far from support related12:44
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Crippy-Boysivik: some of them yes, Along with macromedia, Groupwise, .Net 2.0 runtimes with VC# and other stuff12:44
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avagantSo my computer started lagging pretty big time, and lost 2 gb almost overnight.12:44
odyssevsgnomefreak, well, Linux needs a psycho-spiritual support centre. For humans, of course.12:44
sivikCrippy-Boy, ok, .net 2.0 can be run with mono, some of macromedia stuff can be ran with crossover office12:44
gnomefreaktheacolyte: in the first part there is a # infront of external screen  thats just as far as i got12:44
odyssevstamacracker, if you get the all clear, we'll see about iptables to block off some ips.12:44
Crippy-BoyRickH, Its cool.12:44
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avagantI don't know exactly what happened to make this thing start running so slow.12:44
theacolytegnomefreak: I commented out that line so I could back out if I needed to12:45
avagantbut it's lagging when i open more than one app and it didn't last night.12:45
Crippy-Boysivik now your talking shite, Half of .net 1.1 is still missing in mono let alone 212:45
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gnomefreakthe # is just that a comment it wont read it12:45
theacolyteRight, but after that I define the screens12:45
tamacrackerodyssevs there were no errors of any sort12:45
sivikCrippy-Boy, whatever you say, i haven't had much problems with it12:45
BlueEagleavagant: Which timezone are you in?12:45
gnomefreaklsc: please dont use the caps12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
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avagantuhh pacific?12:45
lgcHelp! My networking is 'kaputt' after an obliged Windoze session!12:46
odyssevstamacracker, so you did not see "possible rootkit" or "infected" ?12:46
siviklgc: what is the problem?12:46
chemajaWhat's with DLink ADSL routers and Ubuntu? Works in XP, but in Ubuntu it doesn't route TCP to inet (ICMP/UDP is fine)... and also, some hostnames resolve to what gives?12:46
BlueEagleavagant: oh.. and what time is it there? Did you turn on your computer just recently perhaps?12:46
avagantbut loading up files and what not takes a real long time.12:46
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sureshotdoes anyone know how compatible wine is to cedega from transgamming.com12:46
chemajaI'm with iPrimus (Australia)12:46
avagantno it's been on all night.12:46
lgcI can't connect to the outside, sivik12:46
tamacrackerlet me check, under what category odyssevs12:46
BlueEagleavagant: Well then that is odd. Anyways try: ps axu|grep updatedb12:46
Kirby904I am trying to edit menu.1st, and i cant save it12:46
holycowchemaja, no problems with them here ... did you check google?12:46
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siviklgc: that maybe an issue with the isp12:46
avagantWhat's that suppose to do?12:47
odyssevstamacracker, apt-get install chkrootkit, then run chkrootkit.12:47
sivikKirby904, make sure you sudo gedit/vi menu.list12:47
lgcsivik: I'f afraid not. I'm using Windoze now.12:47
Kirby904oh ok thanks12:47
Crippy-Boysivik, Don't get me wrong, im not saying its bad or naff software or anything, nor am i saying that about crossover or anything else you mentioned, I just dont see the point in me spending hours trying to get everything running when the tutors would complain anyway, It seems a big waste of time and effort to me since the only thing ill be using it for is collage12:47
Kirby904its menu.1st or menu.list?12:47
chemajaholycow: didn't get a chance (no inet) :D -- i'm at work today so i can (not that i will, he went back to win2k -- i just had to rant)12:47
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sivikCrippy-Boy, then don't use linux12:47
tamacrackerodyssevs lol i already did that12:47
avagantBlueEagle: What's that suppose to do anyways?12:48
holycowchemaja, ah all cool.  i have a bunch they seem to work12:48
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: No, god forbid that you might actually learn alternative ways of doing things12:48
tamacrackerodyssevs then it did a bunch of checks and it seems like everythings ok12:48
holycowno idea, probably the isp comment might be the right clue12:48
Crippy-Boysivik, I use it only for home use, But i NEED to use windows for college, hence the dual boot12:48
Kirby904New problem, when i open with sudo gedit, nothing shows in the text editor12:48
chemajaholycow: okidoke. i guess i just got unlucky. i think it was a 501 model or something12:48
holycowsorry it didn't work out, i hate it when they gotta go back to ms12:48
BlueEagleavagant: ps aux lists all running processes, grep scans that list for a pattern, in this case the process updatedb12:48
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odyssevstamacracker, smashing stuff. Now, you directly connected?12:48
siviklgc: that really shouldn't be an issue with the os, the ip, subnet, and default gateway should all be assigned from the isp12:48
gnomefreaklgc: download xserver-xorg-video-i810 from ubuntu.packages.com and save it to usb stick than install it on ubuntu (you might want to get xorg and xserver-xorg-driver-all while you at it)12:48
tamacrackerodyssevs im on cable internet12:49
avagantit didn't do anything12:49
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, I already know those alternatives and they're not acceptible for my use.12:49
BlueEagleavagant: if it is running that is because slocate and friends are updating their index. This is a processor- and disk intensive operation.12:49
gnomefreakpackages.ubuntu.com lgc12:49
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: ...and why are you still here again?12:49
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odyssevstamacracker, sure, so no router/gateway/server between you and your connection, right? Does `iptables -L` show anything?12:49
lgcgnomefreak: what is that for?12:49
gnomefreaklgc: your intel card. werent you the person that needed the intel drivers12:50
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lscgome freek12:50
Kirby904when im moving "Windows XP" to the top of the boot list, do i just move this line to the top of my Ubuntu entries?12:50
Kirby904# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian12:50
Kirby904# ones.12:50
Kirby904titleOther operating systems:12:50
Kirby904# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS12:50
Kirby904# on /dev/hda112:50
lsci just installed kubnu12:50
tamacrackerodyssevs I get a policies accepted12:50
Kirby904titleMicrosoft Windows XP Home Edition12:50
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BlueEagleubotu: tell kirby904 abotu paste12:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell kirby904 abotu paste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:50
gnomefreakKirby904: you can stop pasteing now12:50
SinnerGpff :p12:50
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, So what, because i need to use linux for collage i shouldnt be here? Well pat yourself on the back, You've just destroyed my idea of that the ubuntu community wasnt made up of eletists, If i wanted this kind of response i would use gentoo12:50
lsci only have the vga server driver12:51
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lgcgnomefreak: not that I know of...my networking just doesn't function anymore (and I didn't mess with it!)12:51
Crippy-BoyNeed to use windows for college*12:51
gnomefreakKirby904: use pastebin please12:51
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: No, don't get me wrong.12:51
odyssevstamacracker, magical stuff.12:51
Kirby904Yes, ok12:51
odyssevstamacracker, standby, we'll whip you a basic firewall up.12:51
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: I just do not understand why you are here if you are not at all enclined to make linux fit your needs.12:51
tamacrackerodyssevs sweet12:51
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gnomefreakah lsc install xserver-xorg-driver-all12:51
gnomefreaklgc: sorry it was lsc that needed it12:52
holycowguys, can you please lay off Crippy-Boy12:52
holycowjesus f christ12:52
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: And frankly, with your approach to support channel I guess you'll meet that attitude anywhere you go.12:52
holycowwe need visible ops here banning people12:52
holycowBlueEagle, shut the f up12:52
lscdo i doa sudo apt-get install12:52
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gnomefreakholycow: with language like that i will12:52
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, Its not about *MY* needs, if it was and i could dictate to what i use then i would. But unfortunatly i have to answer to tutors, who in the end decide upon my grade12:52
lscdo i doa sudo apt-get install  xserver-xorg-driver-all12:52
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holycowgnomefreak, ah yes ban for a letter sweet12:52
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gnomefreaklsc: yes12:52
Kirby904When opening menu.1st with sudo gedit, nothing shows in the text editor.12:52
lgcgnomefreak: but maybe you can help me anyway!12:52
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gnomefreakKirby904: menu.lst not a 112:53
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: Please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic so we can continue this discussion.12:53
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, With this attitude? I asked a simple question about an mbr and 5 people jumped on me with the 'wtf do you wanna run windoze for, do this, do that' no matter how much i explained that i had no choice.12:53
Kirby904oh =/12:53
gnomefreaklgc: wireless?12:53
holycowat least i got your attention, guys lets be a wee bit more supportive.  there are thousands of reasons to use linux in thousands of configurations, its all good12:53
gnomefreakCrippy-Boy: what is your question12:53
avagantmy computer is running really slow, and i have no idea why.12:53
holycowCrippy-Boy, pls drop it, i don't think they meant to really attack you, its all good12:53
lgcgnomefreak: that's another problem, but let's concentrate on eth012:53
BlueEaglecrippy-boy: I am sorry, but I did not catch your first question. All I caught was your big rant.12:53
Kirby904when moving windows xp to the top of the list, i can just cut and paste on top of ubuntu right?12:53
sivikCrippy-Boy, i didn't say that, i just said you can run a bunch of that stuff with either wine or crossover12:53
Crippy-Boygnomefreak, no worries, its sorted12:54
lscafter that then what ?12:54
cafuegoKirby904: yep12:54
Crippy-Boyholycow, Will do.12:54
gnomefreakCrippy-Boy: ok12:54
fourathow to monitor an application to see wich file it's reading/writing, something like file monitoring12:54
cafuegoKirby904: To *before* the automagic kernels list stuff,12:54
Crippy-BoyBlueEagle, Its ok, My rant was in response to people not listening to my reasons.12:54
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Crippy-Boysivik, no worries, crossed wires then, but it didnt help that you wasnt the only on :-)12:54
Crippy-BoyDiscussion over :-)12:54
lscgnomefreek then what after i install then files12:55
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Kirby904behind the ### Begin Automagic Kernels List line?12:55
gnomefreaklsc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and goo through it till you get to the drivers part and choose intel12:55
lgcgnomefreak: any ideas?12:55
odyssevstamacracker, now, you're receiving this as a prototype. It will need modifying, but the general theme of iptables is fairly easy to follow. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25608/12:55
cafuegoKirby904: Just above it12:55
zmowell sound is working again12:56
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gnomefreaklgc: can you ping anything?12:56
zmodid it the lame way :/12:56
cafuegoKirby904: Otheriwse it'll get deleted when the kernel is updated.12:56
zmogn all12:56
lgcgnomefreak: no. 100% loss.12:56
gnomefreaklgc: what card is it?12:56
sureshotdoes anyone know how compatible wine is to cedega from transgamming.com12:56
Kirby904Oh ok thanks.12:56
lgcgnomefreak: how do I find out?12:56
rickyhey some body know you install java to links12:56
gnomefreaklgc: lspci  should list the nic card12:56
tamacrackerodyssevs do you need me to copy and paste that onto the terminal?12:56
gnomefreakricky: to links?12:57
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gnomefreakricky: you mean links the browser12:57
RickHCrippy-Boy, what linux distro you run?12:57
cafuegoricky: It wouldn't surprise me at all if that wasn't possible.12:57
ellioTbwhats up guys, whats a good app for managing wireless LAN besides the one in the ubuntu Add/Remove12:57
ellioTbcause that one hates me12:57
gnomefreakricky: im thinking you cant since its not a gui browser12:57
odyssevstamacracker, the idea is that $IPTABLES -A INPUT -s 123.456.789.0/24 -j REJECT, will reject the ip range 123.456.789.* (ie, all 256 class C ips).12:57
Chm0dcan anyone in here tell me why i get command not found when i use deb?12:57
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gnomefreakChm0d: what is the command12:58
lgcgnomefreak: since I'm in Windoze now, I would like to know what else to try when I reboot to Breezy...12:58
rickyso can i installer in lynx12:58
redguyChm0d: perhaps because there is no such command as "deb"12:58
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odyssevstamacracker, good god no. It probably will work if you put it into an rc.firewall file, chmod o+x it and execute. But I wouldn't, since you don't need a nat. Read the iptables manual.. it's full of handy tricks.12:58
gnomefreakricky: java is not compatible with text browsers12:58
Chm0di just did a fresh install of ubuntu did my updates installed kde and tried installing xgl/compiz12:58
cafuegoricky: No, only browser that use the X toolkit *and* are netscape plugin compatble12:58
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ellioTbchm0d, i think if it gives you deb on a how-to12:58
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ellioTbchm0d, that you are supposed to add it to your sources.list12:59
ellioTbnot use it in the terminal12:59
gnomefreaklgc: find drivers for the nick card when you find out what card it is go to the following link12:59
tamacrackerodyssevs just a quick question is there a "program" GUI interface that can do all this without scripting? :D12:59
lgcgnomefreak: I suppose I can figure that out on Windoze too, am I right?12:59
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:59
odyssevstamacracker, you want basically to have a list of nefarious IPs generated based on certain traffic from them (easy in the case of flooding).12:59
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage12:59
rickywhere can i get that?12:59
odyssevstamacracker, absolutely.12:59
gnomefreaklgc: yes should be in device or whatever its called12:59
avagantWOuld it be ok to delete python 2.3 without harming python 2.4?12:59
lgcgnomefreak: was that for me?12:59
cafuegoricky: firefox should work ok.12:59
ellioTbChm0d, do this in console "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"12:59
ellioTband add that deb line there12:59
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gnomefreaklgc: the hardware was12:59
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odyssevstamacracker, but I mean you'll miss the fun stuff, like -j MIRROR (swaps the source/dest ips of packets).12:59
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Chm0dthank you01:00
lgcgnomefreak: the hardware is OK, this is the proof.01:00
dmglouis_my internet doesn't work, can someone help?01:00
odyssevstamacracker, apt-cache search iptables01:00
tamacrackerodyssevs ah I would like to get a userfriendly program....  I dont understand "swaps the source/destination IPs of packets"01:00
ellioTbChm0d, no prob01:00
Phlostendmglouis_: the internet is evil, run now01:00
gnomefreaklgc: but the hardware link above will show you what nic cards are supported and how they work (if you need drivers and so on)01:00
cafuegodmglouis_: it's not yours, it belongs to all of us. And it's working fine ;-)01:00
avaganti just did apt-get clean is that gonna kill me?01:01
ellioTbanyone got a good WLAN manager though, besides having to go to networking and do it all manually through that01:01
odyssevstamacracker: uruk - Very small firewall script, for configuring iptables01:01
gnomefreakavagant: no01:01
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dmglouis_can someone help connect to the internet01:01
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)01:01
tamacrackeri see01:01
CosmoDaddmglouis_: can you ping any internet host?01:01
Phlostencafuego: there might be some g'ment officials who would say otherwise ;)01:01
redguyhuh? what happened to shorewall?01:01
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odyssevstamacracker: knetfilter - GUI for configuring the 2.4 kernel IP Tables [KDE I think.] 01:01
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: not even an IP address (!= name)?01:01
cafuegoPhlosten: Al Gore can bite me01:01
CaptainMorganthank you holycow !! oh my how I miss Gnome01:01
odyssevstamacracker, here we go, try this one, gnome-lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (GNOME interface)01:02
tamacrackeris there a Gnome version?01:02
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:02
CosmoDaddmglouis_: what kind of physical connection do you have (DSL, analogue, ISDN, cable, ...)01:02
rickyhow can i install shockwave in firefox01:02
dmglouis_CosmoDad: cable01:02
holycowCaptainMorgan, you are most welcome.  i have nothing against kde, i just like my gnome too01:02
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dmglouis_cosmodad: but i connect thru router01:02
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cafuego!RestrictedFormats > ricky01:02
CaptainMorgansame here mang01:02
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lgcgnomefreak: I am not trying your patience here, but I didn't install anything and everything was working fine before I needed to reboot in Windoze (and I think Windoze is not the bad guy either). Do you see any point in reviewing hardware or driver issues?01:02
CosmoDaddmglouis_: is your router connected?01:02
sivikricky: you have to have the multiverse repo on and then sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla01:02
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea its fine, im on it right now01:02
cafuegoricky: that page contains links to info on java/flash and video in firefox.01:03
ibob63my internet has become really slow on my ubuntu installation. how should I diagnose the problem?01:03
gnomefreaklgc: see you didnt tell me any of this so i dont know it :)01:03
CosmoDaddmglouis_: did you specify your LAN router as the default router on your Ubuntu box?01:03
lgcgnomefreak: now you know.01:03
dmglouis_cosmodad: huh?01:03
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gnomefreaklgc: did you do updates before you rebooted to windows01:03
avagantgnomefreak: so it won't hurt me in any way?01:03
lgcgnomefreak: no.01:03
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you have to tell Ubuntu to use your router by default when there's data destined for the Internet01:03
gnomefreakavagant: no01:03
dmglouis_cosmodad: the ehternet connection is the default yes01:03
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rickyi have java and flash player installer but i need to instar shockwave01:03
fourathow to monitor an application to see wich file it's reading/writing, something like file monitoring01:03
gnomefreaklgc: and you net works in windows not in ubuntu?01:03
cafuegoricky: There is no shockwave for Linux.01:04
sivikricky, shockwave is flash01:04
lgcgnomefreak: yes.01:04
gnomefreakricky: you cant01:04
cafuegosivik: It's not.01:04
Admiral_Chicagofourat, /lock?01:04
gnomefreakricky: flash/shockwave01:04
sivikcafuego, well, it does the same thing more of less, didn't mean for it come out like that01:04
gnomefreakcafuego: installing flash gives you shockwave01:04
fouratAdmiral_Chicago, /lock ?01:04
ellioTbcan i switch to xubuntu really easy?01:04
cafuegognomefreak: No, it really doesn't.01:04
sivikellioTb, yes01:04
gnomefreaki have shockwave support in FF01:04
ellioTband what if i want to switch back to gnome01:04
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: can you ping your router?01:04
ellioTbcause this comp is an older laptop, and seems to be running slow01:04
raphaHi all!01:04
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dmglouis_cosmodad: nope01:05
sivikellioTb, you just tell your xdm/kdm/gdm to use that as the current session01:05
avagantgnomefreak: So my computer is lagging alot, is there something wrong here? haha01:05
tamacrackerodyssev sweet!01:05
ellioTbits a 2.2ghz w/only 256mb of ram01:05
gnomefreakapplication/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes01:05
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok, you sure that your router does accept pings?01:05
tamacrackerthis is what i was speakin of!01:05
cafuegognomefreak: Shockwave Flash != Shockwave01:05
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea01:05
ellioTbsivik, is that easy to switch?01:05
cafuegognomefreak: No, they are different things.01:05
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dmglouis_coosmodad: i just reinstalled ubuntu and last time it worked fine01:05
sivikellioTb, yes, very much so, you know when you login01:05
sivikellioTb, you can tell it what session type to use01:05
cafuegognomefreak: flash sucks, whereas shockwave is mainly cool ;-)01:05
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gnomefreakah ok thought it was same just for non macs01:06
CosmoDaddmglouis_: have you set up a static IP address for your Ubuntu box or do you use dhcp?01:06
ellioTbsivik, thanks, i am going to have to check it out, see if it runs this faster01:06
maxamillionis it possible to make X forward over ssh in ubuntu?01:06
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Chm0dwhat is gset-compiz guys?  i can't find that package01:06
cafuegomaxamillion: of course01:06
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gnomefreakmaxamillion: yes use the -x option i think01:06
CosmoDadmaxamillion: sure01:06
ellioTbsivik, so you can do the same thing with KDE huh01:06
maxamillioncafuego: i can't seem to get it to work01:06
cpk2does smp preempt mean smp is off?01:06
dmglouis_cosmodad: if I say dhcp, it doesn't select it as default, whereas the static ip is not working01:06
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maxamilliongnomefreak: that works on my debian box, but not my ubuntu machine01:06
gnomefreakor thats to not use X its been so long since i used ssh01:06
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: what do you mean by it doesn't select it by default?01:06
sivikellioTb, yes01:06
cafuegomaxamillion: Did you check the X11Forward option in sshd_config?01:07
maxamillioncafuego: sure did01:07
gnomefreakmaxamillion: when your there just run gnome or kde or whatever from termminal it should load it01:07
birdfishWhen installing ubuntu, does it ask for network configuration information before or after installing the system (note this is while installing without the gui)01:07
dmglouis_cosmodad: when I go to "Networking", there's no default seleced01:07
ellioTbsivi, thanks, that is awsome, i hope it will run xfce faster than this gnome01:07
CosmoDaddmglouis_: have you tried Ubuntu's network manager to set and check your configuration?01:07
dmglouis_cosmodad: *selected01:07
lgcgnomefreak: any idea?01:07
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea thats it01:07
CosmoDaddmglouis_: pastebin "ifconfig eth0"01:08
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gnomefreaklgc: not off hand.01:08
cafuegomaxamillion: I have on occasion has some VERY weird X forward issues (but only on Debian sofar) where it wouls refuse to work (at all) until I purged ssh and reinstalled it.01:08
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lgcgnomefreak: what oracle should I resort to now?01:08
dmglouis_cosmodad: i dont know how i'll paste it here01:08
ellioTbsivik, will it run the same gnome apps? or do i have toge t xcfe apps01:08
knut_i installed the nvidia drivers yet, and know my fonts are everywhere smaller than before01:08
dmglouis_cosmodad: im on a different computer01:08
knut_its very hard to read01:08
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knut_how can i change it?01:09
avagantMy computer is running like it's in the dark ages.01:09
blindI *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.01:09
knut_its not only when im logged in, its in login screen too.. everywhere where x puts text out01:09
lgcgnomefreak: is there anything like network utility reconfiguration commands?01:09
Chm0dknut have you changed resolution?01:09
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gnomefreaklgc: ifconfig01:09
knut_no Chm0d its the same01:09
infinitodoen anyone know why having libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed i can't read a dvd using totem-xine??01:09
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: is this machine you're using right now in the same LAN as the ubuntu box?01:09
gnomefreaklgc: gnome-network-manager01:09
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea01:09
CosmoDaddmglouis_: can you ping the ubuntu box?01:10
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knut_someone said me i should change the DPI but dont know what he mean Chm0d01:10
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pianoboy3333sivik: you there?01:10
dmglouis_cosmodad: the request timed out01:10
Knifahi, i've just managed to get ubuntu installed on my core 2 duo system (to an IDE drive from an IDE cd-rom) using the latest beta, the install went perfectly and there was no errors while it was installing, but now when I boot it won't detect the drive again, or atleast it won't mount it, so I can't get in :(01:10
Knifaanyone know what i can do to fix it?01:10
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MagicFabKnifa, is the hD IDE ?01:11
lgcgnomefreak: gnomefreak gnome-network-manager reinstalls anything? Or it just asks you for options like DNS vs fixed IP and so on?01:11
Knifayeah the hard drive is IDE01:11
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok then, seems like you don't have a (proper) IP address assigned to your Ubuntu box...01:11
blindKnifa: can you mount the drive manually?01:11
Knifano idea01:11
CorpseFeederI lost my connection and had to reboot01:11
Knifai can't get in to try :S01:11
Knifaand i dunno any other way.01:11
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ellioTbwill the GDM login let you select between gnome and xfce01:11
Chm0ddpi dots per inch?  I would think he meant the resolution01:11
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PhlostenellioTb: yes01:11
CorpseFeederwhat does it mean when you have a blank black screen with blinking cursor in top left and the caps lock and scroll lock on the keyboard is blinking?01:11
CosmoDaddmglouis_: try this on your linux box: "sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0"01:11
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: then try to ping your router again01:12
MagicFabKnifa, can you access the BIOS ? Can you check the specs to know if you're booting from IDE or SATA ?01:12
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KnifaMagicFab it's booting from IDE01:12
ellioTbPhlosten, thanks, also will it run gnome apps? or do i have to get new ones for when i am in xfce01:12
blindCorpseFeeder: means switch your mouse and keyboard. afaik.01:12
MagicFabKnifa, what's the exact error ?01:12
knut_no Chm0d he means dpi01:12
PhlostenellioTb: it will still run most gnome apps01:12
blindCorpseFeeder: like, they're plugged in the wrong PS/2 ports.01:12
KnifaMagicFab it boots to GRUB, starts loading a bit, then dies at "Being: loading root file system" (or something like that)01:12
MagicFabKnifa, when botting from the CD and choosing "boot from first HD", can you boot ?01:12
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and give your user's password if prompted01:12
PhlostenellioTb: most apps will run in kde/gnome/xfce etc01:12
knut_he said i should change the dpi in the ".Xressources" file01:12
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ellioTbPhlosten, thanks, i am a total noob at this stuff right now01:13
KnifaMagicFab i havn't tried that, but i don't think it'll work since it isn't detected my drive.01:13
dmglouis_cosmodad: yea its still busy01:13
MagicFabKnifa, get the exact text of the error, Google will most likely help01:13
CorpseFeederthey're not in the wrong ports.01:13
MagicFaband we can lookinto kaunchpad01:13
avagantIs it possible to delete the kubuntu desktop without screwing anything up?01:13
dmglouis_cosmodad:its done now01:13
lgcgnomefreak: gnome-network-manager reinstalls anything? Or it just asks you for options like DNS vs fixed IP and so on?01:13
CosmoDaddmglouis_: did you get an IP address?01:13
MagicFabKnifa, if the drive wasn't detected, you wouldn't even get to grub01:13
ellioTbPhlosten, i did the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, once thats done will i be able to pick when i login, after a reboot or ctrl+alt+bckspc01:13
avagantmy computer is running like i have 1gb left.01:13
CosmoDaddmglouis_: like the last line looking like you were assigned such an IP address?01:13
dmglouis_cosmodad: you mean in terminal?01:13
CosmoDaddmglouis_: yeah01:14
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dmglouis_cosmodad: no01:14
KnifaMagicFab it's something to do with the IDE controller on core 2 duo motherboards01:14
avaganti think kde killed my hd leftover.01:14
CorpseFeederit seems to do it when i use hibernate... I get the blinking keyboard LEDs and blank screen and have to press reset button.01:14
CosmoDaddmglouis_: if pinging still doesn't work, what does the last line of the terminal output say?01:14
avagantcause now my computer is running like it's in the stone ages.01:14
knut_any idea Chm0d ?01:14
lgcgnomefreak: yoo-hoo!01:14
PhlostenellioTb: that is correct, you click session or something like that and pick xfce and then you can tell it just for that session or all the time etc01:14
Knifathe latest daily build was supposed to fix it01:14
Knifathe installer works01:14
dmglouis_cosmodad: it just went back to the normal prompt with [user] @computer:01:14
Knifabut it won't boot.01:14
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ellioTbPhlosten, awsome, thanks man01:15
MagicFabKnifa, at the risk of repeating... you wouldn't see anything near to GRUB if IDE wasn't detecting01:15
MagicFabprobable the partition' s order / dev names have changed01:15
Knifait's here01:15
Knifait's this problem.01:15
sureshot !wine01:15
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:15
blindI *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.01:15
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:15
CosmoDaddmglouis_: I really need some configuration information of yours... please open /etc/network/interfaces and look up a "eth0" section01:15
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: it should start with "iface eth0"01:16
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you don't have multiple network cards in your Ubuntu machine, do you?01:16
avagantMaybe those 150 some packages that came with kde killed my computer.01:16
dmglouis_cosmodad: yes01:16
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you do have?01:16
dmglouis_cosmodad: i have a wireless usb01:16
dmglouis_cosmodad:but I disabled that01:16
MagicFabKnifa, that bug refers to SATA, not to IDE01:16
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you should pull the cable while testing01:16
KnifaMagicFab: the IDE runs off the same controller01:17
avagantit's taking 3 years for me to load up any programs.01:17
CosmoDaddmglouis_: I mean the "USB-cable"01:17
dmglouis_cosmodad:let me try that01:17
Knifait's something to do with the Jmicron PATA controller that is on the motherboard I have, other people are having the same problem, but apperntly the latest daily build is supposed to fix it. The installer works (unlike the stable releases) but when it actually tries to boot and mount the drive, it doesn't work. so i'm wondering if there's anything special i need to do to get it to work01:17
avagantcan you ping on kde.01:17
ellioTbwith IDE, there was a bug going around, for me to even install ubuntu i had to do "ide=nodma" in GRUB boot options01:17
ellioTbsome people had to do ide=reverse or something like that as well01:17
avagantor rather ubuntu can you ping the entire program?01:17
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and tell me what the line beginning with "iface eth0" in that interfaces-file exactly looks like01:18
MagicFabKnifa, I'd check elliotb' s suggestions, out of ideas here01:18
blindavagant: ping a program?01:18
avagantlike in windows when you go to run and type ping.01:18
dmglouis_cosmodad: iface eth0 inet static01:18
avagantcan you do that with ubuntu?01:19
Admiral_Chicagoavagant, command line, terminal01:19
ellioTbKnifa, try pressing F6 when you get to grub, and add the option ide=nodma and press enter01:19
ellioTbi'll brb01:19
blindavagant: just open a terminal, and type ping.01:19
dmglouis_cosmodad: address
avagantDidn't work01:19
Admiral_Chicagoavagant, the command is still ping01:19
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok, what's the address of the box you're on right now?01:19
blindavagant: define didn't work.01:19
avaganti typed in ping and it's giving me a list of commands to go with ping01:19
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thenakedcowboyi need some help with installing packages01:19
avaganti just need to find out why my computer is suddenly running so sluggish01:20
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you can't have two machines within the same LAN with the very same IP address01:20
blindavagant: what are you trying to ping?01:20
Admiral_Chicagoavagant, try this "ping"01:20
Admiral_Chicagono quotes01:20
thenakedcowboyi am a compleat linux n00b01:20
dmglouis_cosmodad:i dont01:20
dmglouis_cosmodad: wait sorry uh let me check01:20
Crippy-Boythenakedcowboy, What are you trying to install, Or just in general?01:20
Admiral_Chicagothenakedcowboy, what package?01:20
txoofwhat is the meta package for the ubuntu desktop environemnt?01:20
MagicFabtxoof, ubuntu-desktop01:20
Admiral_Chicagotxoof, ubuntu-desktop iirc01:20
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avagantmy computer just pretty much died on me.01:20
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avaganti could run more than one program without lag, and all the sudden there's a ton of lag.01:21
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok... type, in a shell: ifconfig eth0|head -n 2|tail -n 101:21
speudsome french here ?01:21
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avagantit takes about 2 minutes to just open up something.01:21
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blindavagant, that has nothing to do with ping.01:21
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Admiral_Chicagoavagant, you may have a memory leak01:21
avagantOh I know, but in windows it would irmpove it a bit.01:21
CosmoDaddmglouis_: does it display the IP address
Admiral_Chicago!fr > speud01:22
blindavagant: no it wouldn't O_o01:22
dmglouis_cosmodad: do i type in the |01:22
avagantWell...it was wishful thinking.01:22
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Admiral_Chicagoavagant, what do you run?01:22
CosmoDaddmglouis_: hold "alt-gr" and press the "<>" key (lower left on a german keyboard)01:22
avagantUbuntu? Haha01:22
txoofcan I remove all the refering packages via a meta package?  e.g. I installed ubuntu-desktop and now want to remove all that was dependant on it.  Is there a way to do that?01:22
blindavagant, open a terminal, type ps aux and find out what's using all your memory.01:22
avagantDO you mean programs?01:22
Crippy-BoyWhat does ping have to do with your computer lagging?01:22
Phlostentxoof: only one by one afaik01:22
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: or just type "ifconfig eth0" and check the second line01:22
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blindCrippy-Boy: it doesn't.01:23
ellioTbcan't really tell if XFCE is faster01:23
keegan_I just downloaded Conky and its pretty sweet, but I was wondering if there is a way I can show what I am playing inside Amarok on my Desktop just like Conky shows how my system is going?  Anyone know how to do that or direct me in a direction would be really cool01:23
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blindkeegan, try #conky01:23
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ellioTbthey need like a gnome/kde/xfce benchmark01:23
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dmglouis_cosmodad: ok i got it: inet addr:  Bcast:   Mask:
lgccafuego: You familiar with networking problems (eth0 is dead after a reboot and no updates or messing around with parameters)?01:23
Crippy-Boyblind, Just what i was thinking :-/01:24
txoofIs there a way I can get apt to spit out all the packages that are refered to by a meta package?  I can then use that to remove everything...01:24
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok this looks like your machine is correctly configured with respect to IP address01:24
avagantI don't know what's making it run so bad.01:24
speudwhat do i write to go ubuntu-fr ?01:24
blindavagant, open a terminal, type `ps aux`01:24
Admiral_ChicagoellioTb, i hear KDE runs fster than GNOME01:24
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: are the cables connected correctly?01:24
speudno gnome is faster kde01:24
avagantThat's what I did.01:24
sureshotdoes anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine01:24
dmglouis_cosmodad: yes01:24
ellioTbAdmiral_Chicago, does it really? i heard the opposite01:24
Admiral_Chicagospeud, /join #ubuntu-fr01:25
blindit should tell you how much everything is using.01:25
avagantblind: That's what I did but I can't really see what's making it go crazy.01:25
blindpastebin it.01:25
ellioTbspeud, how about xfce vs. gnome, i am having a hard time telling01:25
dmglouis_cosmodad: it was just working before I reinstalled ubuntu01:25
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Knifanah that didn't work either01:25
blindellioTb: if you want fast, go with fluxbox :] 01:25
Knifai think i'll just need to wait till a fix is released that works01:25
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ellioTbblind, really? whats that, and where do i get!01:25
CosmoDaddmglouis_: not sure what the reinstallation changed... type "route -n" and tell me if there are any entries01:25
motinUpdated: http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToComfortablySwitchFromWindowsToUbuntu  I appreciate feedback and impromptu corrections (the wiki is open for everyone)01:25
blindellioTb: sudo apt-get install fluxbox01:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:26
ellioTbwell thats easy enough01:26
blindellioTb: it might be confusing to a novice, though. make sure you read the documentation :] 01:26
dmglouis_cosmodad: how do do a line break without actually sending the message?01:26
lgcnalioth: you there?01:26
ellioTbblind, to a novice? or a semi-noob like me01:26
sureshotdoes anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine01:26
CosmoDaddmglouis_: in IRC?01:26
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you can't, but use pastebin for that01:27
dmglouis_cosmodad: well i have trillian01:27
dmglouis_cosmodad: pastebin?01:27
blindellioTb: both. i love it, but it's not the easiest to work with.01:27
CosmoDad!tell dmglouis_ about pastebin01:27
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avagantblind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25609/01:28
ellioTbblind, well this comp is a 2.2ghz with 256m of ram with an ati radeon (laptop btw) and it seems SOOO slow in gnome01:28
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you'd paste the multi-line content within http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me the URL01:28
dmglouis_cosmodad: this is going to take some time01:28
CosmoDaddmglouis_: wait01:28
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: are you going to paste the route output?01:28
Crippy-BoyellioTb, Install Fbdesk and fluxconf with it, should make it a bit easier.01:28
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dmglouis_not paste but type01:28
ellioTbCrippy-Boy, thanx01:28
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: there's an easier way...01:29
orinocowhen is ubuntu dapper supposed to be out?01:29
sureshotellioTb what modle is your card01:29
ellioTbsureshot, 350M01:29
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orinocono dapper, the nexto one :(01:29
ellioTborinoco, i am in dapper01:29
CosmoDaddmglouis_: look at /etc/network/interfaces again, look up the "iface eth0" section and tell me whether there's a "gateway <IP address> entry below it01:29
cpk2i got the 686 kernel but cant tell how to double check that it isnt using SMP?01:29
sureshotelliotb do you know if it is fglrx compaitble01:29
Crippy-Boycpk2, uname -a?01:30
dmglouis_cosmodad:there is01:30
orinocoellioTb, i meant the new one, knot ?01:30
CosmoDaddmglouis_: what's the IP address?01:30
orinocohow is its name?01:30
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orinocoedgy eft01:30
ellioTbsureshot, it isn't when i tried last last, said no devices when i change it from ati to fglrx01:30
orinocothats it01:30
avagantwatch he leaves as soon as i try to get some help. heh01:30
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and does it equal your router's address?01:30
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cpk2Crippy-Boy: says SMP PREEMPT I have no idea what that means01:30
orinocothen, when is edgy eft suposed to be out ????01:30
sureshotchecke this out01:30
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok. do you have any firewalls running?01:30
ellioTbprograms just seem to take FOREVER to start, but then run fine01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:31
dmglouis_cosmodad:on this computer01:31
avagantmy programs are taking 10 years to load up too.01:31
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: no on the Ubuntu machine01:31
vjacobis there a powerpc/mac ubuntu channel?01:31
sureshotellioTb check this out it will tell you if your card is and give you instrucktions on how to install01:31
blindavagant: not sure whats eating everything up :\01:31
Razor-Hey does anyone here use gaim for there msn account01:31
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keegan_I do01:31
dmglouis_cosmodad:and my router control panel shows the ubuntu box as connected01:31
ellioTbRazor-, i couldn't get it to work for mine, prolly just forgot my pas01:32
avagantwell it seems overnight my gb went down01:32
Razor-i block someone and i cant unblock them do you know how lol01:32
avaganti have like 4.3gb out of 10 left.01:32
avagantmaybe i should uninstall kde even though it's amazing and I like it.01:32
CosmoDaddmglouis_: it does? ok, then it's gotta be a software issue. are you connected via wire or wlan?01:32
blindRazor-: privacy. check your preferences.01:32
dmglouis_cosmodad: wire01:32
keegan_Razor-: I've never blocked anyone before but I believe its Tools>Privacy01:32
Crippy-Boyavagant, have you got gnome or xfce installed aswell as kde?01:32
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sureshotdoes anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine01:33
avaganti've gnome and kde.01:33
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ellioTbRazor-, get new friends?01:33
Crippy-Boyavagant, Uninstall gnome?01:33
avagantBut I heard it's hard to just uninstall it.01:33
avagantand wouldn't i have to get all the programs back?01:33
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and you said your two LAN machines cannot ping each other right?01:33
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: like the ubuntu machine cannot ping the windows machine and the other way around01:33
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ?01:33
dmglouis_cosmodad: nope this and ubuntu cant01:33
Crippy-Boyavagant, I cant really answer that, never tried but it shouldnt be too difficult.01:34
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avagantCrippy-Boy: Someone just said it's a pain.01:34
CosmoDaddmglouis_: type "sudo iptables -L -n" and tell me whether all three policies are set to ACCEPT01:34
Yonomy dual monitors worked during installation and work during bootup, but only one monitor works on my desktop01:34
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Yonocan anyone help?01:34
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dmglouis_cosmodad:they are01:35
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ellioTbYono, what kind of video card01:35
Dekkardis there anyword of screensaver locking up systems?01:35
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and each chain only(!) contains a line like this: "target     prot opt source               destination" ?01:35
YonoellioTb: Nvidia ti4200 w/ ap8x01:35
Yonolspci -v says its installed fine01:35
malice_what program can I use to convert pictures that I took to a smaller size so I can email them? The Pictures are around 2 megs a piece01:35
Yonobut only during bootup do both monitors work01:36
nexsananyone know the command to install the build essentials?01:36
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok. when you ping your router or the windows host, what does ping return as error message?01:36
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avagantThere's one.01:36
w30malice_, gimp, xv01:36
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avagantCan I kill things from the command line, processes?01:36
malice_w30: ty01:36
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avagantOr would I have better success doing it from system monitor?01:36
Knifaokay seems i have to add "all-generic-ide" to get it to work01:36
Knifaa command rather01:36
Knifabut how do i do that?01:36
dmglouis_cosmodad:3 pckts trans, 0 rcvd, +3 errors, 100% packet loss01:36
w30malice_, xv01:36
dmglouis_cosmodad: and time 1999ms01:37
CosmoDaddmglouis_: I mean something like "Destination Host Unreachable" ?01:37
nexsanAnyone know the command to build-essentials?01:37
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Crippy-Boynexsan, sudo apt-get install build-essential01:37
avagantI don't have bluetooth and in fact I deleted it, but apparently it's still running.01:37
dmglouis_cosmodad:that too01:37
nexsanthank you Crippy01:37
blindI *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.01:37
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: geez...01:37
KnifaHow do I add the "all-generic-ide" to the kernel? D:01:38
CosmoDaddmglouis_: jesus01:38
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w30malice_, it's an old simple Unix graphics program by John Bradley01:38
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dmglouis_cosmodad: i know it can work, i got it working last time01:38
ellioTbman, i like this fluxbox01:38
CosmoDaddmglouis_: your prob is either really simple and I can't seem to figure it or really hard01:38
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ellioTbnice and clean01:38
blindellioTb:  :D it's wonderful. fully customizable.01:38
Crippy-BoyellioTb, Wait till you start messing with the conf files ;-)01:38
dmglouis_cosmodad:last time it was not that hard i dont think01:38
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lgcavagant: there are several possibilities: "kill -9 PID" or, better, "pkill -KILL name"01:38
blindellioTb: just make sure you run nautilus with --no-desktop01:38
CosmoDaddmglouis_: what worries me is the fact that it looks correct01:38
vjacob_is there a powerpc/mac ubuntu channel?01:39
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ellioTbCrippy-Boy, i know, its so simple right now, where are all the confs01:39
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nexsananyone know a good place to find cedega documentation?01:39
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ellioTbblind, ok, i'll figger out how to do that01:39
Crippy-BoyellioTb, Read the fluxbox docs, you'll learn plenty from them01:39
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vjacob_anyone here watch TV on their mac? I am thinking more about analog or DTT than IPTV-based situations...01:39
sureshotdoes anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine01:39
ellioTbCrippy-Boy, alright thanx01:40
avagantnautilus --no-desktop?01:40
CosmoDaddmglouis_: please do "cat /etc/network/run/ifstate" and tell me how many lines the output gives?01:40
avagantWhat does that do?01:40
nexsansureshot use cedega01:40
blindsureshot: http://appdb.winehq.org/01:40
avagantI think i might uninstall kubuntu.01:40
Crippy-Boysureshot, Just try it, I doubt it though, you might have more luck with cedega01:40
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nexsani need a cedega manual01:40
avagantEven though there's alot of really good programs I like.01:40
lgcavagant: did you read my last post?01:40
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sureshotyou have to pay for cedega and they are snobs on there channel01:40
lgcavagant: about killing processes...01:40
dmglouis_cosmodad:no such file01:41
nexsanyou have to pay for cedega?01:41
NickABuseyI plug in an external USB drive, and it shows up in my Dev Manager for like 10 seconds, then disappears from the list again. Any ideas why?01:41
Razor-what other msn clients are there for ubuntu01:41
avagantIt still running pretty slow.01:41
nexsani suppose you have to pay for linux as well huh?01:41
Crippy-Boysureshot, snobs? :P01:41
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sureshotwhy can you get it with out paying01:41
blindnexsan, you're on the internet ;)01:41
zircxhey guys, hows it going, I'm looking to try something new as a desktop enviroment, ubuntu might be the go heh..01:41
vjacob__razor, have you looked at mercury and amsn?01:41
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you sure?01:41
nexsanthat's what i'm trying to tell sure01:41
CosmoDaddmglouis_: no typo?01:41
Razor-no thanks01:41
vjacob__i think they are both crossplatform01:41
nexsanthis si the internet01:41
ellioTbCrippy-Boy, whats a good site for themes/styles? boxwhore.org?01:42
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blindellioTb: yes01:42
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sureshotCrippy-Boy yes as i said was over there yesterday asked a question and got called stupid for my troubles01:42
NickABuseyI plug in an external USB drive, and it shows up in my Dev Manager for like 10 seconds, then disappears from the list again. Any ideas why?01:42
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox01:42
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blindboxwhore > gnome-look for fluxbox01:42
avagantHow do I delete kubuntu without having any problems?01:42
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok... do "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" and change the "iface eth0 inet static" to "iface eth0 inet dhcp"...01:42
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ellioTbblind, this seems 100X faster01:42
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CCmonsterwhay kind of bluetooth support is there in Ubuntu?01:42
blindellioTb: it's wonderful :] 01:42
CosmoDaddmglouis_: save and exit gedit, then do "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"01:42
zircxblah that was annoying..01:43
lgcavagant: never try "kill -9 -1"!01:43
avagantlgc: Why not? Hehe01:43
avagantI seem to be good at ruining other things.01:43
CosmoDaddmglouis_: and tell me whether you can see a DHCP request attempt and its result01:43
Crippy-Boyavagant, did you just install it ontop of ubuntu?01:43
lgcavagant: Wanna try?01:43
avagantYah Crippy-Boy I did.01:43
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avagantlgc: No, I'll pass.01:43
nexsancedega anyone?01:43
avagantlgc: I'll have to keep track of it.01:43
nexsanbefore i hit the crack pipe and forget what i was doing...01:44
ellioTbblind, how do you install these styles, only if its an easy explanation, otherwise i'll go try to look it up01:44
lgcavagant: you better. But be advised that it'll kill all your processes, in case you need.01:44
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blindellioTb: move it to ~/.fluxbox/styles01:44
dmglouis_cosmodad:i still cant ping the router01:44
avagantI just don't understand why I'm like super slow dude.01:44
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ellioTbblind, unzipped or in the gz01:44
CosmoDaddmglouis_: after you did the ifup-part, did it show a bunch of lines?01:44
avagantIt's faster then it was before, but.01:44
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blindellioTb: unzipped, but still in individual folders01:45
zircxI'm looking for to possibly try something new, ubuntu looks like a good option, does the desktop enviroment come with the samba tools for setting up a linux machine that can share with window xp machines? or do those tools come with part of the server installation01:45
avagantIt's like I'm running an old apple or something.01:45
CosmoDaddmglouis_: "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"01:45
ryanakcahow do you set the interval between each image when using image magick? animate *.png  is what I'm using, and they go too fast01:45
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Crippy-Boyavagant, what are your machine specs?01:45
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blindryanakca: have you read the man file? there's a switch, i think it's -d but im not sure.01:46
jribryanakca: animate -help, says there is a -delay option01:46
dmglouis_cosmodad: a lot lines just cam now01:46
avagantI don't know haha.01:46
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avagantI have 2 10 gb hd's..01:46
nexsanzircx: i have windows on another partition and it sees them fine01:46
nexsanfrom the moment i installed01:46
CosmoDaddmglouis_: try pinging again01:46
nexsani can access the files, but i can't write to them...01:46
avagantCrippy-Boy: I got this off Craigslist, I guess I deserve it.01:46
dmglouis_cosmodad:its still busy01:46
nexsani can also copy them onto the linux part.01:46
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok01:46
blindnexsan: is the drive NTFS ?01:46
ellioTbblind, once they are there, do i do a reconfigure?01:46
jominonexsan, do you have windows on ntfs?01:47
ryanakcablind: jrib: yep, I was reading animate *.png ... never thought to search for the term 'delay'...01:47
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blindellioTb: they should show up automatically.01:47
dmglouis_cosmodad: doing dhcpdiscover01:47
blindright click, then down to styles.01:47
nexsanjomino yes01:47
zircxnexsan , you can access the files from windows to linux? but can't write to those files, or vice versa?01:47
nexsani have a 320 SATA drive01:47
dmglouis_cosmodad: the network is unreachable now01:47
avagantOk like I said how hard is it to uninstall kubuntu-desktop without screwing everything up?01:47
nexsanwith 200 for windows01:47
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blindnexsan, linux doesn't yet have full NTFS support.01:47
nexsansplit in two01:47
nexsanwell i'm running xp on ntfs on the same drive01:47
ellioTbblind, they did thanx, fbdesk is the desktop thing?01:47
nexsanand i switch between the two01:48
CosmoDaddmglouis_: :/  this wasn't a help. revert the changes (substitute the "dhcp" by "static" again) and do the "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0" again afterwards01:48
blindnexsan, you didn't install linux on NTFS. a partition was made.01:48
nexsani know01:48
jominonexsan, thats normal...there is a patch afair but i don't know where to get it and if it works well01:48
nexsani didn't say i did01:48
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blindellioTb: im not sure what fbdesk is.01:48
La_PaRCaHey, I f I want to connecto to a windows machine should I use RDP or RDPv5 from the terminal services client?01:48
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REALFLEOis the command a2ensite supporte on ubuntu01:49
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overriddengood evening01:49
AlethesREALFLEO:  yeah, that's an apache thing, not distro specific01:49
zircxso what's the big difference from having a ubuntu desktop with any other distro for that matter?01:49
avagantblind: Were you the one who said they'd never tried to uninstall kubuntu-desktop?01:49
sureshotno it is not a good eve.. but glad you are having one01:49
blindavagant: no. but i also haven't :P01:49
avagantI don't have wanna like 3 desktop environments.01:50
nexsanubuntu is the name of the distro, it runs Gnome desktop environment01:50
avagantbut i don't want it to ruin anything.01:50
Dr_willisavagant,  basicially you fire up synaptic and start searching/uninstalling any kde related packages you see01:50
ellioTbblind, then what do you use for a desktop, or do you just not have one01:50
nexsanif you like KDE better, get Kubuntu01:50
Dr_willisit 'shouldent' hurt anything01:50
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overriddenwhats the security difference between using your router as dns of using the dns from your isp directly ? whats the best thing to do ?01:50
avagantDr_willis: Are you serious that could take hours.01:50
REALFLEOok cuz  the cobash: a2ensite: command not found01:50
blindellioTb: i used to run fluxbox, but now im in gnome. (so i can run beryl <3)01:50
nexsani use the dns from my isp01:50
jribavagant: removing some important kde library like libqt3-mt should do the trick (or use deborphan)01:50
dmglouis_cosmodad: now it says no such process01:50
Dr_willisavagant, Yep. theres no 'quick and easy way ' to do it - UNLESS you installed it with aptitude.01:50
REALFLEOcan I manually put the file in sites-enabled ?01:51
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zircxoverridden . dns from the isp, only because they've got backup dns servers, or you can use your own with your isp as a back up dns server01:51
avagantI don't remember how I installed it.01:51
CosmoDaddmglouis_: when does it say that?01:51
Dr_willisavagant,  theres a web site  that lists the standard packages installed by kubuntu-desktop. but i dont rember the url..01:51
sureshotblind beryl is very nice01:51
dmglouis_cosmodad: SIOCDELRT: No such process01:51
avagantI'm not sure if I used apt or aptitute.01:51
blindsureshot: sure is :q01:51
dmglouis_cosmodad: after ifdown and ifup01:51
sorush20how do I recover a file that I accidentally deleted.. I did sudo rm /etc/modules01:51
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok, but you did revert the change?01:51
jribDr_willis, avagant: the website is psychocats or something similar, so googling for kubuntu psychocats should do it01:51
blindsorush20: why did you do that? :[01:51
Dr_willisavagant,  try aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop personally  I never unisntall stuff.01:51
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avagantSo if I deleted kubuntu-desktop completely would it ruin gnome and everything else?01:51
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sureshotblind got it working yesterday it was worth the trouble are you xgl or aixgl01:52
avagantWell I think that's why my computer is running like it's from the stoneage.01:52
sorush20blind: accident.. I wanted to delte something else..01:52
lgcsorush20: not many options...01:52
blindsureshot: xgl.01:52
avagantBecause I have gnome and kde.01:52
Dr_willisavagant,  kubuntu-desktop is a meta-pacakge - it may not really remove much at all.01:52
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CosmoDaddmglouis_: I'm kinda lost right now01:52
Dr_willisavagant,  if it reloves too much - you can always reinstall stuff.01:52
zircxI've become more accustomed to gnome over kde.. which is a nice relief, because i felt as though gnome got lost in their development at one point01:52
avagantBut it came with 150 files Dr_willis01:52
CosmoDaddmglouis_: I'll come over to your place and fix the prob myself ;)01:52
sureshotblind same here aigxl is  not compatable to my ati card01:52
ellioTbblind, does the transparency work for everyone in flux, it hates me01:52
Dr_willisavagant,  and your point is? :)01:52
avagantI like the Kommand line too in kde.01:53
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blindellioTb: transparency isn't that big in flux.01:53
dmglouis_cosmodad: thanks for the help anyway01:53
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avagantBut I think it's killing my computer.01:53
blindsureshot: yeah, i've got an old nvidia card.01:53
pushpophi all01:53
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you're welcome. oh, one last thing:01:53
nexsani'm a gnome01:53
dmglouis_cosmodad: yes?01:53
Dr_willisavagant,  i dont see how having kde and gnome both installed would affect the computer01:53
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pushpopare there any 64-bit users in the house?01:53
sorush20well is there anyway I could undelete the file? surely there must be.01:53
CosmoDaddmglouis_: you didn't set up your router *after* you've booted your ubuntu box did you?01:53
sureshotblind aigxl is supposed to be compatable to nividia card01:53
dmglouis_cosmodad: no01:53
zircxI'm just trying to figure out what the biggest advanatages would be going with ubuntu as a desktop01:54
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blindsureshot: ALL of them? I don't know, I just installed it two days ago. Didn't know anything about it :] 01:54
avagantWell I don't have many GB on this HD01:54
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rylasasinhi guys i'm having a few problems01:54
zircxi guess, the bleeding edge software and technology that it has would be an advantage ..01:54
rylasasinI can't get sound to play from YTMND.com01:54
simplahi peoples01:54
CosmoDaddmglouis_: ok. I suggest you reboot your ubuntu box before continuing to fix your problem01:54
avagantThat didn't work at all.01:54
blindrylasasin: that's because it's flash01:54
sureshotblind let me find an url i will post it to you in a few ok01:54
dmglouis_cosmodad: lol im doing it right now01:54
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blindsureshot, sure.01:54
CosmoDaddmglouis_: :)01:54
theunruledhihi people, I have a centrino CPU, would I need linux-386 or linux-686?01:55
simplais there anyone into development on ubuntu here?01:55
avagantwait what?01:55
pushpopi have two separate hard drives, one with ubuntu and the other with Windows XP, I just installed Ubuntu with GRUB but when I boot my system no boot menu is presented to me and it just boots windows01:55
rylasasinI have the flash plugin I think01:55
avagant"kubuntu-desktop not installed so not removed?"01:55
pushpopcan anyone help me01:55
nexsancause windows has the MBR01:55
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avagantI'm using kde right now.01:55
collier_Excuse me, I just installed ACCT threw Synaptic Package Manager now how do I access it?01:55
lgcsorush20: ghjk01:55
nexsangrub was suppose to be installed on the first drive01:55
avagantHow is it not installed?01:55
zircxwhat do people prefer as a standard installation, the server or desktop? and are their many differences from a package install perspective or is it the fact that the server just offers a working LAMP on install01:55
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nexsanwhat you can do is make the second drive first in the bios01:55
blindavagant: did you install kde?01:55
pushpopnexsan: thanks01:56
sorush20so I have deleted the file /etc/modules how do i get it back01:56
pushpopwill try it01:56
collier_Excuse me, I just installed ACCT threw Synaptic Package Manager now how do I access it, like what command do I type in terminal????01:56
nexsando the boot priority01:56
rylasasinso what do I need to make YTMND work?01:56
Razor-what was that mercury messenger what is its file name i cant find it in synaptic01:56
blindrylasasin: you can install flash 9 with wine.01:56
simplazircx: desktop.   Server install is best if you want to setup a console box with server stuff, like web server, etc01:56
pushpopi dunno if the boot order meny allows you to specify the drives, i think it just loads whichever one you specify in the bios01:56
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pushpophopefully that made sense01:57
sureshotblind are you running dapper or edgy01:57
zircxsimpla, ok, that makes sense, i've already got an independent server running my services at the moment, so I'm really looking for a tidy desktop enviroment01:57
blindsureshot: dapper01:57
nexsanyou should be able to adjust the boot priority individually, depending on the bios...01:57
zircxalso aixgl / xgl looks like nice eye candy01:57
nexsananyone know the package name for xlibs?01:57
nexsanit's not under xlibs01:57
blindzircx: oh it is.01:57
bm0nkWould anyone be able to give me some 1-2-1 advice on setting up prism54usb? ( im using http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/01:57
blindzircx: it's wonderful eye candy. want some screenshots? xD01:58
zircxyeah dump a couple please blind01:58
simplazircx, install the ubuntu desktop!  Its what I am running now, and its great, with plans to setup a home server using the server install01:58
pushpopI havent tried it in the BIOS, but in the boot menu when i hit F12 it doesnt seem to specify the individual drives01:58
Dr_willisnexsan,  its obsolited..  its part of an older package. but no longre really need.01:58
pushpopmaybe im mistaken though01:58
pushpopwow, this place is busy :-)01:58
nexsanDr_willis: cedega is asking for it....01:58
pushpopim used to IRC channels with 100 people max01:58
Dr_willisnexsan,  cedega wanted it.. i edited the cedega.deb and removed the dependency.. or the wiki/forums discuss other ways to get around the issue01:58
zircxblind , does it restrict the ability to play games also?01:58
Dr_willisnexsan,  cedega is stupid that way. :P ive seen other apps want it as well.01:59
zircxUT etc etc..01:59
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nexsannow to get around this01:59
rylasasinI have wine, now how do I get to flash 9?01:59
blindzircx: not afaik01:59
nexsanthat's why i love linux01:59
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keegan_To get the dependecy errors off Cedega deb just use alien to turn it into a .tgz then back to a .deb01:59
CyberSlugIs there anyone here able to help me with a beagle indexing problem: it seems to freeze on a task, utilising 100% CPU, and doing nothing.01:59
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zircxI knew i owned an xbox for a reason..01:59
nexsankeegan: you got me01:59
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zircxblind , where are those screenies..02:00
avagantIt's kde.02:00
rylasasinwhere do I get flash 9 from here?02:00
avagantblind: It's more definitley kde that's making my computer slow.02:00
zircxflash 9, as in the plugin?02:00
avagantBut I cant uninstall it!02:00
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:00
rylasasinfor firefox02:00
bm0nkIm trying to setup the prism54usb from http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/ - but I'm pretty new to linux so im not 100% sure on what im doing...would anyone be able to help?02:01
blindzircx: I'll pm em to you02:01
keegan_Linux doesn't have flash 902:01
blindavagant: are you IN kde?02:01
blindkeegan_: you can install it with wine. >_>02:01
rylasasinyeah but you said you could install it through wine02:01
Dr_willisavagant,  id like to see your proof that kde is definitley the issue02:01
adam410Hi, I'm running an ubuntu LAMP server, and I'd like to modify the DHCP settings so that my router (apple airport via eth0) doesn't assign a random internal IP, suck that it is static and ports are always forwarded to it. how do u modify the DHCP settings from $02:01
keegan_Can you use linux Firefox with flash 9 on wine?02:01
zircxdamn, I'm still on flash 7.0r2502:01
blindkeegan_: yes02:01
avagantblind: I'm not in kde anymore.02:02
keegan_You know where I could find a tutorial on that?02:02
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avagantblind: I ctrl alt backspaced02:02
sureshotblind try this one for started i did not save the one i wanted to send you sorry.. i also wene to the cannels xgl and aixgl and askquestion02:02
nexsanadam: enter the ip of your router in a web browser window02:02
sureshotblind http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/02:02
thermionicanyone here got a working mirrors.list for apt-mirror ?02:02
blindavagant: then kde isn't slowing you down02:02
nexsanyou should be able to access the router, don't know not a mac guy, but that's how other routers work02:02
avagantBut I was when it was slowing me down.02:02
avagantGnome seems to be running fine.02:02
blindavagant: then don't run kde02:03
avagantWell duh!02:03
keegan_avagant if Gnome and KDE are slow why not us XFCE or Fluxbox.02:03
adam410nexasn: it uses a mac application for admin, and it doesn't support changing the internal IP from the router, it has to been done via DHCP, i had to go thru this on my mac.02:03
thermionicadam you need to config the DHCP service on the router, not the client02:03
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avagantkeegan_: I can't get kde to uninstall!02:03
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collier_Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?02:03
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keegan_avagant: Did you install it through the Repos?02:04
avagantI just wish I could install Konsule instead of termial.02:04
adam410thermionic: this apple router doesnt allow that, it needs to be done from the client02:04
blindavagant: you can.02:04
JohnNash27892hello .. i need some help with ubuntu on ibook g402:04
avagantI like the black look of the kde terminal.02:04
CyberSlugkeegan_, http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ - That's the url to keep up to date about Flash 9 for linux02:04
Dr_willisavagant,  you mean konsole ?02:04
JohnNash27892i cant get the wired network to work02:04
keegan_CyberSlug: Thanks dude02:04
collier_Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?02:04
avagantkonsole doesn't show up in gnome?02:04
JohnNash27892can anybody help ?02:04
avagantkeegan_: I did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I believe.02:05
avagantI can't remember what I did.02:05
thermionicI think you actually need to run an apple program on the client to configure the routre02:05
CyberSlugkeegan_, No problem **^^**02:05
blindavagant, just run it. ALT+F2 konsole02:05
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w30 avagant with gnome-terminal you can change colors with editing profiles for terminal02:05
sorush20I accidentally deleted my modules file in /etc/ what will happen if I restart the computer?02:05
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avagantyay konsole! ^_^02:05
blindavagant: :] 02:05
avagantbut anyways, I don't know how to get rid of kde.02:05
collier_Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?02:06
CosmoDadsorush20: those modules might not get loaded during boot-up02:06
avagantBut everything seems to be running smooth on gnome.02:06
blindavagant: is it necessary? lol02:06
nexsa1that's what i get for trying to edit the DHCP while i'm online02:06
holycowyou need to remove the main kde library ... i forget what it is.  ask #kde302:06
sorush20CosmoDad: how can i fix this ?02:06
holycowremove the library and it will remove pretty much all of kde, outside of non de apps02:06
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JohnNash27892anybody help me on enabling network on ibook g4 with ubuntu ?02:06
CosmoDadsorush20: use your backups. you have backups, right?02:06
avagantholycow: But if I do that, won't all the programs go bye bye?02:06
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holycowsorush20, it probably wont boot02:06
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collier_Hello, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?02:07
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holycowavagant, only the programs as part of kde desktop and those that rely on the libraries02:07
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holycowyou can reinstall those later02:07
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sorush20CosmoDad: no I don#t fuxk have back ups02:07
holycowi'm assuming you have gnome or some other de already installed and working however02:07
jribcollier_: type 'dpkg -L | grep bin'  that should help02:07
simplacollier_,  check out http://www.gnu.org/software/acct/manual/html_mono/accounting.html  according to it one of the commands is  'ac' without the quotes02:07
avagantI do.02:07
jribcollier_: type 'dpkg -L PACKAGE| grep bin'  that should help02:07
CosmoDadsorush20: I think your machine will boot anyways, some parts may not work, however02:07
avagantI'm running gnome and it's working like nothings wrong.02:07
avagantBut in KDE all my stuff is very sluggish.02:08
CosmoDadsorush20: did you ever make changes to that file yourself?02:08
holycowsorush20, backup your /home dir, then reinstall02:08
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blindavagant: what are the computer specs?02:08
avagantblind: I really have no idea.02:08
ruzgarhow can i post a new topic in ubuntuforums ?02:08
CosmoDadholycow: why you think his machine won't work anymore?02:08
ruzgari am a member02:08
theunruledhii, i have a question ^^02:08
ruzgarof ubuntuforums02:08
blindask it02:08
sorush20CosmoDad: no I didn#t02:08
avagantblind: I bought it off craigslist.02:08
theunruledblind: what kernel does centrino need?02:08
zircx_argh annoying, nice shots btw..02:08
theunruled386 or 68602:08
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sorush20holycow: I just have done a new reinstall02:08
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avagantblind: That's kind of why I have Ubuntu in the first place.02:08
CosmoDadsorush20: then boot from a ubuntu live cd, copy the /etc/modules file and restore it within your HD-booted Ubuntu02:08
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theunrulednexal: oh okay =]  thanks02:09
nexsa1everything that is not 64 bit needs 38602:09
holycowCosmoDad, i'm suggesting a backup plan, and optional recovery that will work, i have no idea what will happen if he reboots.  however, he should backup /home BEFORE he even thinks about rebooting :)02:09
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sorush20CosmoDad: is the live cd the same as the insall alternative cd now?02:09
holycowi hope that outlines it02:09
nexsa1nexsal! my name is wrong lol02:09
theunrulednexsa1: sorry ^^;02:09
CosmoDadsorush20: not sure02:09
theunruledi'm not used to tab yet02:09
nexsa1no worries my tupo02:09
rylasasinnow how do I use flash 9 in linux firefox?02:10
sorush20is there a program that you can install that will prevent things ike this from happening.?02:10
nexsa1ok i need to smoke more crack today02:10
simplablind, is that shots of the Xgl stuff?  Could I get the link too so I can have a look?02:10
CosmoDadholycow: /etc/modules just contains modules that should be loaded *explicitly*, that's all02:10
AngelShineHi, I wanted to ask: where can I get the default /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (I think I messed it up)02:10
zircxi see that suse, uses xen, does ubuntu allow for something similar?02:10
ryanakcaanother imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly, but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation... I can't seem to find a -export option...02:10
blindsimpla, I'll PM you.02:10
adam410any ideas on how to modify DHCP setting from $?02:10
avagantNobody is answering my questions in the other room. Haha02:10
DrSpinanyone wiling to assist with XFCE/wpa-psk ??02:10
CosmoDadsorush20: generally, you should be more careful when being root02:10
holycowCosmoDad, *nod* i was thinking that might prevent it from loading if he had some weird hardware ... you are probably correct02:10
Centaur5I understand that the 2.6 kernel dropped hardware support for old parts.  How old would a computer have to be to not work with Ubuntu?02:10
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CosmoDadsorush20: how did you delete it?02:11
blindf indeed02:11
holycowCentaur5, commedore 64 i'm thinking?02:11
AngelShineHelloo!! Is there anybody non-busy for a video conf Q ?02:11
holycowoh i slay me02:11
nexsa1what the hell /nick doesn't work...02:11
Centaur5holycow: So a 233 or 450 mhz should work?02:11
Dr_willisCentaur5,  perhaps one with isa slots.. of course it depends on the specific parts.02:11
nexsa1any good irc clients for linux, other than gaim?02:11
zircxCentaur5 , absolutely02:11
blindnexsa1, xchat, irssi02:11
holycowusre, but you will need to use a very lightweight desktop environment on those02:12
Dr_willisCentaur5,  ubuntu runs on a Pent I  100 machine of mine02:12
holycowlike xfce02:12
nexsa1blind: which one do you use?02:12
sorush20CosmoDad: tell it to my pinkie, just sudo rm /etc/modules02:12
CosmoDadsorush20: to prevent accidental deletion via shell, you can force certain commands like mv and rm to prompt back to you before doing dangerous things02:12
nexsa1linux runs on anything man02:12
blindnexsa1: irssi. but it's console based.02:12
Centaur5Okay, thanks.  I was just curious whether or not to bother installing Ubuntu on machines that old.02:12
nexsa1unlike windoze02:12
AngelShineHi? (Again)02:12
CosmoDadsorush20: you're nuts to do something like that :)02:12
Centaur5Dr_willis: Wow, does it still perform decent?02:12
thermionicadam, you 'enable'; dhcp or you run a static IP, you don't have special dcp settings that the server sees, unless apple really broke dhcp02:12
holycowCentaur5, for file servers, webservers, firewalls sure02:12
holycowi use lots of those kinds of machines for that02:12
blindHi, AngelShine.02:12
AngelShineHi! =)02:12
rylasasinguys, I downloaded an installed flash 9 (windows) using wine02:12
holycowinfact those used to be very good desktops02:12
AngelShineThank you !!02:12
blindAngelShine: what do you need02:12
rylasasinnow how do I make it work?02:12
Centaur5holycow: I'm talking about a replacement for 9802:12
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zircxyes i use to run slack 7.0 on a 233mhz and it run pretty good02:13
Dr_willisCentaur5,  i never said that. :P it did the console very well.. and  i installed some very very light window managers.. it did ok.02:13
zircx256mb of ram..02:13
holycowyou can install xfce desktop if you want, it will be pretty speedy and nice, you just haveto install the maximum amount of ram into those02:13
zircxif that..02:13
thermionicnobody here knows about the binutils issue with apt-mirror or debmirrotr then I guess02:13
Dr_willisCentaur5,  the Install took a few hrs. :(  1x cdrom02:13
ryanakcaanother imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)02:13
AngelShineI think I messed up my /etc/X11/org.conf and wnated to know how coudl I get it backl to the default one02:13
CosmoDadsorush20: what's pinkie? your dog? ;)02:13
sorush20CosmoDad: no me my pinkei small finger that likes to reach for the enter button..02:13
Centaur5Dr_willis: Ouch, sounds rather painful.  :)02:13
holycowwhich i'm guessing should be around 300 mb or so? that should be more than enough to even run open office once in a while from xfce02:13
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:13
blindAngelShine: did you make a backup? :] 02:13
AngelShineI don't remember =(02:13
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.02:14
AngelShinethe thing is02:14
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rylasasinguys how do you make flash 9 work in linux firefox?02:14
AngelShineI messed with the conf a few days ago, and now I messed with it again02:14
CosmoDadsorush20: there're only two solutions: (1) ask someone else to be root for you or (2) DO BACKUPS02:14
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AngelShinethis time the X did not start02:14
Centaur5holycow: Okay, perhaps I'll give it a shot then with a different window manager.02:14
CosmoDadsorush20: those solutions written in capital letters are to be preferred :)02:14
blindAngelShine: you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to redo the whole thing02:14
CaptainMorganhas X-Chat's bottom tab feature been removed?02:14
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AngelShinei got it back from a backup02:14
bdragonmslanyone know of any good guides for getting xgl up and running?02:14
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blindCaptainMorgan: not afaik02:14
holycowCentaur5, you don't loose much, its a good learning experience02:14
zircxAngelShine , you should be able to run xorgconfig in a console and it should start you at the xorg configuration which will make a xorg.conf if it's been deleted02:14
blindbdragonmsl: try #ubuntu-xgl02:14
nexsa1Dr_Willis: how can i bypass xlibs again?02:14
Dr_willisbdragonmsl,  i found it best to not mess with xgl02:14
CaptainMorganblind, it's set to bottom, yet it is not appearing at the bottom - rather to the left in a tree02:15
Dr_willisnexsa1,  i edited the .deb file following a forum/wiki link i found.02:15
rylasasinHow do I use flash 9 on linux firefox?02:15
Centaur5holycow: Do you think customizing and stripping down the kernel will make a significant difference to be worth it?02:15
AngelShine@blind: so I should first delete it or just run that=02:15
blindCaptainMorgan: that's a separate option. set it to tabs and not tree.02:15
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Dr_willisnexsa1,  or you can track down an old xlibs deb and install it02:15
holycowCentaur5, not at all02:15
blindAngelShine: just run that02:15
dezanyone know about s3 unichrome via?02:15
AngelShinethank you!02:15
holycowCentaur5, there is no such thing as customizing a kernel on debian and its relatives02:15
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CaptainMorganblind, can you be specific? Im looking but I don' tsee it02:15
holycowthose kernels are mostly modularized, the kernel loads only what it needs to02:15
CaptainMorganblind, omg nevermind02:16
holycowthat is to say the kernel configures it self02:16
blindCaptainMorgan: I'm not really sure. It's been a while since I've used X-Chat02:16
CaptainMorganit's in view02:16
blindCaptainMorgan: lol :] 02:16
CaptainMorgannot in preferences like I thought02:16
holycowyou would really only need to configure a kernel under some specific workloads, like embedded applications02:16
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Centaur5holycow: Really?  Well I guess I'll never waste my time doing that.  :)02:16
holycowdo it only if you want to learn02:16
holycowif you wanna do something cool02:16
CaptainMorgan!ubotu mp302:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:17
holycowinstall ubuntu full on any machine02:17
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holycowthen take the hd to any other machine and turn the power on02:17
Centaur5holycow: I guess it would save some disk space but that's all?02:17
holycowall you haveto make sure is that the hard drive is on the same part of the ide chain and channel02:17
ryanakcaanother imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)02:17
holycowCentaur5, few megs? why bother? you should have a 10 gig hd around a 233 might be able to see that02:17
MissLadyanyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.02:18
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Centaur5holycow: So you're saying that if you do a computer upgrade you won't have to do a repair install like with windows xp?02:18
holycowindeed, no point02:18
holycowapt just downlaods lattest packages02:18
holycowyou only reboot if the kernel is updated02:18
Centaur5holycow: I mean, it rarely happens but sometimes a new mb will make xp need to be repaired.02:18
sorush20doing backups the very dynamic and prefared way is to hard..02:18
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holycowCentaur5, not on linux or at least debian.  as everything is modular youthe kernel either has the drivers or they don't exist02:19
Centaur5holycow: The worst is when it won't let you login one freaking time afterwards cause it wants to be activated.02:19
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holycowbasicaly 98% of all hardware just works, plug and trully play02:19
zircxCentaur5 , kernel configurations are normally hardware specific, it just saves having a bloated kernel, which is relative to the boot process, it's not a major, you can actually configure and tweak your hardware once booted02:19
holycowCentaur5, kiss ms goodbye forever :) welcome to ubuntu.02:20
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holycowas with any change there are things to learn and bumps to hit but you'll be fine02:20
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blindzircx: did you get those screenshots?02:20
zircxblind , yes thankyou02:20
Centaur5holycow: Well I already have but I'm still learning.  I didn't know much about putting it on older machines as I have a core duo laptop that works great with it.02:20
holycowrylasasin, you don't the plugin doesn't exist yet02:20
blindrylasasin: install it with wine.02:20
holycowadobe is writing one02:21
zircxI said thanks earlier, but I must have pinged out prior to the message hitting the screen lol02:21
blindholycow: you can install it with wine >_>02:21
holycowrylasasin, welcome to the totally crappy world of proprietary software02:21
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simplaCentaur5, what laptop did you are you using it on?02:21
holycowwhere you are at the mercy of  the software vendor02:21
Centaur5simpla: Sony VGN-SZ140P02:21
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holycowwhat blind said yeah, that can maybe work but i refuse to run icky windows software on my boxen02:21
rylasasinI did install it with whine02:21
ryan_how do i install/enable 3d acceleration02:21
rylasasinbut how do I use it (I want to veiw ytmnd in linux)02:21
holycowrylasasin, you need to install windows firefox on winve first02:22
blindmine worked right away02:22
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holycowthen install the windows version of the plugin02:22
blindholycow: no you don't02:22
blindI have flash9 in my linux ff02:22
Bird[OnLinux] What command do I use to intall a program that I just downloaded?02:22
holycowsince when does wine integrate into regular apps?02:22
simplaoh ok.  I ordered an Acer 5614, but couldn't find much info on it regarding if ubuntu picked all the hardware up.  I did find one forum post with some guy using it and said it ran fine.  Bout all he said.  So hoping it works fine on it.  Just waiting for it to be delivered :)02:22
Centaur5Thanks holycow for all the info02:22
rylasasinoh ok02:22
holycowCentaur5, no worries02:22
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blindholycow: oh, maybe i used cxoffice02:22
holycowblind, of course you did02:22
zircxI do run crossover which allows me to use the MS Office suite, that is somewhat of an advantage, especially when it comes to format and keeping the format between those documents, something that Open Office doesn't do02:23
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holycowzircx, depends on your workload02:23
holycowin general if you are storing your documents in an editable format in ms office02:23
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holycowthats just bad bad bad in so many ways its hard to describe02:23
Centaur5simpla: I would imagine that it will all work fine unless Acer put a broadcom wireless card in there.  Since it is a core duo they probably used the centrino 3945 wireless.02:23
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dewdudeis there anything special you have to do to get the menu on the server ISO that lets you choose LAMP install...because i know it's supposed to let you choose several options...but whenever i stick my CD in, after boot: pops up and hit enter..it goes right into standard install02:24
holycowif you haven't managed to convert to openoffice then okay, but its strongly urged to convert all docs to open office when you can ... that is a trully open and documented standard02:24
holycowand all formatting will be kept ... open office docs don't renumber them selves for example >_>02:24
simplaCentaur5, its spose to be in intel pro wireless02:24
TheMoebiusI just installed edgy on my system and I have two video cards - both nvidia, but it only put one of them in xorg.conf. How can I get the PCI address of the other?02:24
Centaur5simpla: Is it the travel mate?02:24
Bird[OnLinux] What command do I use to install a file I just downloaded?02:25
simplaCentaur5, yep02:25
blindTheMoebius: lspci02:25
holycowTheMoebius, want my xorg.conf to check?02:25
Dr_willisTheMafia,  lspci has that option02:25
CaptainMorganthink I found a bug... I was trying different themes and I selected Resilience, now I can't open them selector anymore02:25
avagantOk...whew I think I got everything.02:25
TheMoebiusholycow: yeah, do you have multiple vid cards?02:25
Centaur5simpla: Err, I hate when Acer doesn't have the exact model # on their site.02:25
CaptainMorganit opens for a split second then lcloses02:25
holycowoh shit ... TheMoebius i didn't read properly02:25
holycow\i have one dual02:26
blindholycow :O02:26
simplaCentaur5, lol yeah, i noticed that their site don't quite work with firefox either..  I think on their site its under a 561002:26
holycow*eep* indeed, right i donno, sorry mate, that indeed is a tricky one02:26
zircxholycow; in the corporate world and enviroment, the majority of companies are using MS Applications, this is where linux use to faulter, because they didn't have anything that could compare, sure Openoffice is getting better, and I do use it all the time, but still, when you've got to take important documents which are in MS Office format it does become an issue02:26
gnomefreakholycow: again please watch your language02:26
holycowactually zircx your half right02:26
zircxit wouldn't be an issue if the majority of people out there were using Open office to start out with..02:26
Centaur5simpla: All I use is firefox and I go to their site every week.02:26
holycowwe are converting 600 users to open office02:26
blindTheMoebius: use lspci02:26
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holycowits as easy as pie if you have th eproper research and planning in place02:26
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dewdudezircx, that'd make life easier, sadly MS OFfice was there first.02:26
dewdudeand lots of organizations and people are leary when they hear the word "open"02:27
simplaCentaur5, oh ok.  I was having troubles with their site using firefox.  Its all I use aswell.  Must be just me02:27
holycowthe side effect is that it streamlines and organizes your communication strategies and workflows02:27
holycowits surprisingly easy for us to tell all vendors and customers how to send us data and in what format02:27
zircxdewdude , yes that's unfortunately the reality at the moment..02:27
CaptainMorganlogging off, brb02:27
Centaur5simpla: What does it do or does it just not show certain things?02:27
holycow.doc IS NOT accepted here ... or wont be after we are done.02:27
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gnomefreakholycow: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that and keep this channel for support02:27
Bird[OnLinux] How do I change my default movie player from totem media player to something else?02:27
jribubotu: tell Bird[OnLinux]  about defaultapp02:28
holycowgnomefreak, if you are going to warn me, try spreading the love fairly and warn everyone02:28
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holycowso who else needs ubuntu help?02:28
ryan_how do i install/enable 3d acceleration02:28
holycowryan_, depends on what vid card you have?02:28
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:28
zircxyes, i concur, spread the love evenly02:28
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keegan_How long does it take you guys normally to encode video?02:28
dewdudeyeah...why won't the menu pop up on the server install CD so i can install a LAMP server...it just jumps right to install after pressing enter at the boot: prompt02:28
Bird[OnLinux] jrib nothing happened what you typed that in.02:28
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collier_Excuse me, I install CALC threw Synaptic Now how do I open it???????/02:28
holycowkeegan_, dependson the size of the file mostly02:28
ellioTbman, 531megs to install KDE if i am already running ubuntu w/gnome?02:28
blindkeegan_: depends on the size and your processor speed02:29
simplaCentaur5, i went to their build your own page, but the button on it doesnt work02:29
holycowand the kidn of hardware you have to throw at it02:29
Bird[OnLinux] jrib nothing happened when you typed that in.02:29
gnomefreakcollier_: OO.o calc?02:29
jrib!defaultapp > Bird[OnLinux] 02:29
collier_An Advanced calculator and mathematical tool02:29
jribBird[OnLinux] : did you get a private message now?02:29
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AngelShine@blind: I just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' like you said, it asked me a lot of questions which I am not sure of the answer... but the final outcome is very similar to my old conf file, I'll try reloading the X now... wish me luck :-)02:29
keegan_I'm in a P3 866 and its about 700MBs :(02:29
collier_Its under synaptic02:29
collier_how do  I open it?02:29
avagantOk guys as soon as this is done, I'm totally getting fluxbox02:29
isaeWhat licenses do I agree to when I install an Ubuntu distro?02:29
holycowellioTb, indeed, kde is not just a few small files.  it is a suite of software strung together to define the entire desktop experience02:29
holycowits really quite decent02:29
blindAngelShine: good luck :D02:29
jribcollier_: try what I suggested before with that other program02:29
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avagantIf fluxbox is real light weight that's all that matters.02:29
gnomefreakcollier_: it should be in your acssories menu02:29
collier_What did u suggest?02:29
Bird[OnLinux] jrib I still didnt get one.02:29
gnomefreakonly spelled right02:29
ryanakcajrib: another imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)02:30
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"02:30
blindfluxbox is super lightweight02:30
Centaur5simpla: Oh, I've never tried to customize one on their site.02:30
keegan_avagant: I would rather have XFCE fluxbox is too minilistic for me02:30
zircxkeegan_ , depending on the video if you're talking about taking footage from a digital camera and then encrypting it into a avi format as well as editing and cutting, I would say 1-2 hours to get 45minutes worth of video footage02:30
jribBird[OnLinux] : see above from ubotu ^02:30
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isaeWhat licenses do I agree to when I install an Ubuntu distro?02:30
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collier_gnomefreak: its not under accessiores02:30
Bird[OnLinux] jrib ok thank you anyway.02:30
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simplaCentaur5, yeah ah I tried it hoping I could build my own laptop lol02:30
gnomefreakisae: GPL02:30
avagantkeegan_: That's how I like it.02:30
TheMoebiusok my other vid card has the entry 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900XT]  (rev al1) when i do lspci so does that mean the line in my xorg.conf will be BusID "PCI:01:00.0"? The other PCI card has BusID "PCI:0:14:0"...02:30
blindisae: you should have read :D02:30
jribBird[OnLinux] : ?? ubotu told you above02:30
ryanakcaisae: GNU Public License, but that's the same for all linux distros02:30
isaegnomefreak: Only?02:30
isaeI know02:30
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Bird[OnLinux] jrib I just got message.02:30
avagantkeegan_: As long as it doesn't take up a billion hd.02:30
ellioTbholy, wow, that is so big, trying to remember if i liked kde when i had kbuntu installed for 20 mins02:30
jribBird[OnLinux] : oh ok02:30
keegan_I am taking an .avi video and converting it an SVCD format02:30
ellioTberr holycow02:30
CaptainMorganfolks.. I changed my theme to Resilience which is a horrible and now I can't change it back..02:31
avagantI have to reinstall konsole and amarok though. Boo.02:31
jribcollier_: type 'dpkg -L PACKAGE| grep bin'  that should help02:31
CaptainMorganhow do I revert? Im in KDE now cuz of this.. GNOME doesn't start because of the applied thmee02:31
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blindkeegan_: how big is the avi? whats your processor speed?02:31
holycowisae, no licence.  all the software is independently licenced under various open source licences, mostly gpl02:31
Centaur5simpla: Well I'm looking at the specs and I think the intel video chipset might take a little work to get working at it's full potential but it is possible.02:31
jribcollier_: that command will tell you what files got installed to bin folders (likely commands you can run)02:31
keegan_P3 866 and about 700MBs02:31
isaeholycow: Mostly?02:31
blindkeegan_: it's gonna take a while.02:31
isaeAre the rest gpl-like?02:31
jribryanakca: I don't know, haven't used it that extensively02:31
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holycowisae, free software llicences basically means you need to agree to nothing except the author gives you true consumer rights, and you agree to let the author keep his copyright to the work02:31
ryanakcajrib: kk02:31
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keegan_I started at 12 and nows its 5:31 its at 29%02:31
gnomefreakisae: they are free licenses might not just be GPL02:32
isaeholycow: I know02:32
simplaCentaur5, oh, i got the model that has a Nvidia 7300 256Mb card.  So shouldn't have any problems there, as using Nvidia 4600 on my desktop with ubuntu and its working fine.02:32
holycowisae, mostly.  gpl, lgpl, bsd, tons of other ones02:32
isaeholycow: I know02:32
collier_jrib: no it didnt.02:32
holycowthen why ask?02:32
CaptainMorgancan I access Gnome's themes from within KDE and manually switch it back?02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about license - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
holycowCaptainMorgan, no02:32
ellioTbcan't decide whether to install KDE or not02:32
simplaCentaur5, I was mainly wondering about the wireless, bluetooth, and the inbuilt camera.02:32
jribcollier_: what was the output?02:32
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blindkeegan_: yeah. i've got a 3ghz and it would take ME a while to convert a 700mb video02:32
w30isae, it depends on what you do with it, distribution comes under GPL and some repos contain propritary software that has click throughs on install,like Nvidia drivers02:32
collier_jrib: Its to long to paste02:32
ellioTbif i decide to keep kde, can i uninstall gnome from ubuntu?02:32
ellioTbi have a small HD02:32
holycowellioTb, sure02:32
jribcollier_: paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:32
CaptainMorganholycow: what do I do? Gnome seems to freeze when logging in... appears the theme is corrupted or corrupted Gnome02:33
keegan_I was reading the Flash 9 Blog, anyone got information on when the beta is coming out?02:33
avagantellioTb: kde is fun huh?02:33
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holycowellioTb, you will need to pick a core gnome library, uninstall that and it will pull out all the other gnome apps with it02:33
AngelShine@blind: had to bring back my backup again... this time I read the error message, something about my X and my NVidia driver not having the same version ((????))) (I am trying to install the video driver, have a NVidia GeForce 2)02:33
gnomefreakisae: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing02:33
avagantellioTb: I just don't think i have the hd for it.02:33
zircxkeegan_ , what are type of file are you encoding from and too? vob to avi?02:33
avagantfor more than one.02:33
w30isae, you don't need a license to just use it for non comercial use02:33
blind!nvidia > AngelShine02:33
der0bcaptainmorgan: when I had that prob, I just removed (moved to a safe place) the .gtk* files in my home dir02:33
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ellioTbavagant, yeah, just wondering if its gonna be too slow on this comp02:33
Centaur5simpla: pro wireless 3945 works great, bluetooth should be quite standard and work fine, cameras I hear can be a little tricky depending on who made it.02:33
collier_jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25610/02:33
zircxkeegan_ , and what software are you using to encode?02:33
avagantit made me lag big time.02:33
blindAngelShine: read what ubotu sent you02:33
keegan_zircx: .avi to SVCD mpeg and I am using Avidemux02:33
holycowCaptainMorgan, delete the theme from  your system.  you need to google where gnome themes are stored, then do ctrl/alt/f1, log in to cli, delete theme, then restart gdm with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:33
isaew30, gnomefreak Thaks a lot dudes.02:33
holycowthat should do it02:33
zircxah okies..02:34
Centaur5simpla: I didn't get the camera on mine but somebody that did still hasn't gotten it to work.02:34
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jribcollier_: dpkg -L PACKAGE_NAME | grep bin02:34
AngelShinesure will do, I'm not sure if it's not one of the pages I was reading about it when the whole 'my X is not starting' began =(02:34
zircxkeegan_ , does it encode vob to avi?02:34
holycoww30, non commercial? you don't need a licence to use it for commercial stuff either02:34
zircxI haven't tried Avidemux02:34
ellioTbwhats the name of the instant messenger APP in kde?02:34
keegan_I don't know...02:34
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holycowmost of the free software licences have no restrictions whatsoever on whether or not its commercial or non commercial use02:35
blindellioTb: kopete02:35
jribellioTb: kopete?02:35
collier_jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25611/02:35
zircxI'll have to have a look into it02:35
ellioTbthere we go, anyone know if it runs in gnome02:35
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holycowhehehe j/k :)02:35
blindjrib: you owe me a soda02:35
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simplaCentaur5, ah ok.  Its an Acer OrbiCam 1.3 ..  I am assuming it will all work as the guy on a forum said he had no problems, didn't mention any problems with the camera, so assuming it will be ok.  I guess I will find out in the next day or 2 when it arrives and I install ubuntu on it :)02:35
TheMoebiuscan anyone help me find out what the BusID is for my AGP vid card?02:35
jribcollier_: replace PACKAGE_NAME with the actual package name :P02:35
keegan_Is VOB a DVD format?02:35
zircxkeegan, yes02:35
keegan_Then yes I believe it does02:35
segfaultellioTb, yes kde apps will run in gnome and gnome apps will run in kde02:35
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Dr_willisellioTb,  and I do so all the time. :P02:36
isaeDo I accept some terms of licenses if I use an instant messenger that uses MSN protocols?02:36
CaptainMorgander0b: you moved them all?02:36
holycowalso, all those apps will also run on other de's as long as you have the proper libraries in place :)02:36
Centaur5simpla: Yeah, when I first installed Dapper I had to do a lot of crazy things to get it to work but now it's all supported in the kernel so it should be smooth.  Good luck to ya.02:36
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LilRayRaycould someone help me with compiling a driver?02:36
zircxI thought i'd do a test, I plugged my video camera into a windows boxen that I have here, and recorded the contents of the camera, put it into avi format and it come out like shit..02:36
blindkeegan_: what's the name of that program again?02:36
collier_jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25612/ <-- I did that nothing happened02:36
zircxthen I used kino, and did exactly the same thing and it come out perfect..02:36
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CaptainMorganI have three: .gtk_qt_engine_rc    .gtkrc-1.2=gnome2   and .gtkrc-2.002:37
AngelShine@blind: the page says something about 3 conditions having to be met, and I'm not sure I my card meets all of those (specifically this one: 'You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6".')02:37
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blindcollier_: you're got a / on the tail of that02:37
Centaur5simpla: I installed it 3 months before it officially came out as well, just so you understand it wasn't finished.  :)02:37
holycowzircx, you probably didn't check the compression stuff on win :) but oh well hehe02:37
gnomefreakisae: yes everything you use has a license in some way shape or form IM clients maybe the servers license02:37
mike8901/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug does anyone know how to fix that error?02:37
jribcollier_: ah, I just read the description "Description: An advanced calculator and mathematical tool for Emacs."  Do you use emacs?  What are you looking for exactly?02:37
der0bcaptainmorgan: there was only 2 .gtk_qt_engine_rc & .gtkrc-2.002:37
mike8901am I missing some packages?02:37
CaptainMorgander0b: bare with me, that worked??02:37
LilRayRaywhen i try to compile the driver it doesnt recognize the "make" command02:37
der0bworked for me yes, captainmorgan02:37
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simplaCentaur5, yeah thanks.  Just wish it would hurry up and arrive lol.. I tried Edgy on my old laptop (Screen busted, and it worked fine, but is an old laptop without half the stuff in the new one.  But I really could notice the speed increase between dapper and edgy02:37
collier_jrib: Oh I dont think I have emacs02:37
mike8901is lQtXML from a development library that I'm missing?02:38
w30holycow, I was thinking along the lines of putting Ubuntu stuff in something you sold, if so you need to offer a GPL License. I can't offer any lawyer type advice.02:38
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jribcollier_: good. :)02:38
simplaCentaur5, yeah, the beta version, always fun to tinker02:38
ellioTbxfce seems exactly like gnome to me, now i can't remember what KDE was like, lol02:38
holycoww30, you can sell gpl stuff02:38
jribcollier_: do you just want a regular calculator?02:38
holycowits done all the time02:38
zircxholycow, well I was only working with the default moviemaker, the options are somewhat limited, and I even went with an option that overrode the default option, going with quality output it was still crap..02:38
LilRayRayanyone here that can help me?02:38
Centaur5I'm probably going to put the edgy beta on in a few days when they freeze the kernel.02:38
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:38
holycowgpl simply demands you do certain things with respect to the gpld components when you do that, its in the licence it self *nod*02:38
collier_jrib: no02:38
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holycowzircx, *nod*02:38
jribblind: yes, I do owe you a soda02:39
der0bcaptainmorgan: I believe it has something to do with attemting to apply QT settings to Gnome apps.02:39
w30holycow, right. You just can't use it and sell it under your own license02:39
jribcollier_: what are you looking for?02:39
LilRayRaynayone here willing to help me compile a driver02:39
simplaCentaur5, would you know much about development with ubuntu?  Im only new to it, but was wondering about the source packages you download.  Was wondering if you download a source package, tinker with the code, and then build/compile it, does that make a binary in a new deb package?02:39
mike8901/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug does anyone know how to fix that error?02:39
blindjrib: that was way late :P02:39
AngelShine@blind: the page says something about 3 conditions having to be met, and I'm not sure I my card meets all of those (specifically this one: 'You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6".') --- what I remember from my card: NVidia GeForce 2 MX, 32 or 16 MB02:39
isaeOf course one can sell GPL-licensed stuff. That's what it is about.02:39
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zircxok, i think it's time to move my stuff over to my server, and download ubuntu and give it the test run02:39
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collier_jrib: an algebra calculator02:39
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blindAngelShine: hm. im not sure, then.02:39
segfaultLilRayRay, ask ur question and maybe someone will help u02:39
jribblind: yep, long queue up there02:39
simplaCentaur5, yeah I have been wanting to put the edgy one on, but being putting it off till I get my new laptop.02:39
zircxslackware's fine, but I want a desktop I don't have to work hard on..02:39
mike8901/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug <-------------------------- what does this error mean?02:39
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keegan_Ubuntu is an easy setup02:40
w30holycow, maybe a SCO license??02:40
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holycowfunny :)02:40
jribcollier_: try scilab or octave02:40
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LilRayRayI asked twice sooo: How do you compile drivers.  Im following some instructions with a "make" command and it is an "unknown" command.02:40
Centaur5simpla: If you install a program from source it should replace the old version if I understood your question correctly.02:40
jribubotu: tell LilRayRay about compiling02:40
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segfaultLilRayRay, u need build essentials pkg02:40
AngelShine@blind: k, thanks anyways, I'll keep looking for tutorials on this.... :-)02:41
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nexsa1got source running on Ubuntu!02:41
LilRayRayI told it to install that, but it gave me an error02:41
sagarpin edgy how can i get rid of the printer icon in the notification area??02:41
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amicrawlehow doi download from irc ?02:41
nexsa1thanks Dr.Willis, got cedega running02:41
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ellioTbfor you KDE guys, what do you like about KDE over gnome of xfce02:41
ellioTbor is this the wrong room for that ?02:41
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CaptainMorgander0b, worked!02:41
blindellioTb: god no don't ask that02:41
zircxI've never known any program to replace an older version of the exact program, normally you need to either un-install the older version or upgrade to the newer version02:41
rendoQuick question, does shockwave work with Ubuntu and Firefox?02:41
blindellioTb: you will start a war02:42
avagantellioTb: What about fluxbox?02:42
ellioTbblind, lol02:42
CaptainMorganfolks - stay away from the theme "Resilience"02:42
blindrendo: no02:42
ellioTbavagant, fluxbox is nice and fast, but i feel lost as hell, and i feel like i'll spend forever messing with it02:42
krazykitrendo: no02:42
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simplaCentaur5, oh ok.  Yeah I am planning to learn c, c++, and was going to just hack code to start with while learning.  Was going to use the source packages from apt, so it includes the ubuntu changes from debian..  but don't know if doing it through the packages for source, if when you build it it makes a new binary package, which I could keep for next time I re-install ubuntu02:42
rendoSo any games that are shockwave won't work, correct?02:42
jribellioTb: #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place02:42
ellioTbi have a really nice OS X look in gnome, i am in xfce right now02:42
ellioTbjrib, thanx02:42
avagantellioTb: Don't say that, I was just going to download it.02:42
LilRayRaycan someone pm me, it might be easier to help02:42
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blindI can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux.02:42
keegan_Does anyone here have experience with LMMS?02:42
krazykitrendo: right.  shockwave not working = nothing shockwave will work02:42
rendoSo I should backhand my wife for making me get up to try and fix something that doesn't work to begin with? :)02:43
ellioTbavagant, check it out, it looks really cool and is SUPER fast02:43
rendoWill do. :b02:43
ellioTbavagant, i am just too ADD to mess with it to make it just like i want it02:43
avagantWIll all my programs go?02:43
jdrakeIs there a way to remove the restricted modules without removing the kernel itself?02:43
ellioTbavagant, the ones i tried worked perfectly02:43
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avagantWill my programs that are on now transfer over?02:44
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blindavagant: they won't transfer over.02:44
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ellioTbavagant, yeah, the menu there will have all the same stuff as in gnome02:44
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blindavagant: they're installed, they're not going anywhere.02:44
ellioTbavagant, what do you mean by transfer over02:44
simplaanyhow i am off to work.  bye all.  thanks Centaur502:44
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Centaur5simpla: Oh, I understand your question now.  I wish programming was something enjoyable to me but I never took more than one C+ class.  You'll have to do something after compiling it to make it a binary for later on but I don't know anymore than that.  Sorry02:44
nexsa1if Company of Heroes works, i'm gonna try to kiss my own feet02:44
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Centaur5simpla: Okay, have fun.  I'm going to go home from work and eat.  :)02:45
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simplaCentaur5, oh ok, yeah.  I will look more into it tonight when I get home.02:45
keegan_Is ellioTb uninstalling KDE still?02:45
simplaCentaur5, lol yep will do.  anyhow cya02:45
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zircxaight, i'm out02:45
ellioTbkeegan_, i haven't installed it yet02:45
Centaur5simpla: bye02:45
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rendoWhat's that other thing, not Automatix, the other script thing for installing junk?02:45
slipstream3dAnyone wanna help out a doofus that just upgraded to Edgy and lost all network connectivity :D02:46
ellioTbkeegan_, i want to install it, just nervous about taking up half a gig and then hating it02:46
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keegan_ellioTb: If you don't like KDE when you install just go into the package manager and take it off, simple as that02:46
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:46
avagantellioTb: That's what I just did. Haha02:46
rendon/m easyubuntu :o02:46
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slipstream3dahhh thanks02:46
CaptainMorganis DDD compatible with Gnome?02:46
ellioTbkeegan_, thanx02:46
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myesteriousCan i move /home/MyUser to another partition without reinstall Ubuntu ?02:47
CaptainMorganoops.. lol was not meant to be here..02:47
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ellioTbavagant, check out that fluxbox, if you are into that real hackery simple look, then its for you02:47
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collier_How do I CD root?02:47
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jribcollier_: what does that mean?02:47
derekjwwuse the sudo command02:47
skrollIf I am using Evolution, and I just install spamassassin from the repos, will evolution automatically use it?02:48
collier_cd to root02:48
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:48
collier_like cd Destop02:48
derekjwwlike: sudo cd /root02:48
jribcollier_: just: cd /root02:48
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keegan_I used fluxbox a couple of times but not enough to learn how to make it look all fancy and stuff02:48
collier_jrib: ok thanks jrib forgot the /02:48
blindI can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux.02:48
ellioTbi better plug this thing into the ethernet, downloading KDE over wireless might be kinda slow02:48
derekjwwyou won't have privelages to go into that file though02:48
blindderekjww: you have permissions to look, but need sudo to do anything.02:49
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox02:49
slipstream3dsudo lets you use a single command, does su work in ubuntu? it keeps telling me my password is wrong.02:49
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jribubotu: tell slipstream3d about sudo02:50
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suff0katewhats the encoder i have to d/l to play mpeg files?02:50
blindI love fluxbox. I'd use it, if beryl worked with it.02:50
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jribslipstream3d: su works fine.  But you can't su to root because the password is blank.  Instead, use sudo -i for a root prompt02:50
blindsuff0kate: mplayer, vlc pick one.02:50
derekjwwwell could somebody help me network my computer to a microsoft computer02:50
markeibcan i write without real risks on ntfs partitions?02:50
w30myesterious, sure but make an entry in fstab so Ubuntu will know where it is. Remember that fstab needs tabs instead of spaces in certain places, if in doubt try a tab instead of a space and back up home and fstab first02:50
blindmarkeib: nope.02:50
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czer323hey blind!  I had to erase and install the other day, and now i don't have that pimp wallpaper you were showing off the other day.  Ubuntu/gray with transparent 45 lines.  Think you could link me up?02:51
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blindczer323: you counted the lines? o_o02:51
myesteriousI have to use "ln" command to link new path ?02:51
czer323blind> 45 degree angle lines.02:51
ellioTbavagant, did kde run too slow for you?02:51
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derekjwwsomebody help me set up my network to microsoft computers02:51
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blindohhhhh lol02:51
blindczer323: http://blindcam.sytes.net/ubuntuwalltrans.png02:52
manterwhere can i find the ubuntu live cd?02:52
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jribmanter: ubuntu.com, click on download02:52
czer323blind> lol, seriously ;)  I'm not that compulsive.02:52
manteri don see the live02:52
ellioTbit doesn't say :"live" anymore02:52
jribmanter: the live cd is now the both the live and the install02:52
ellioTbits just the desktop CD02:52
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ellioTbit does the same thing02:52
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keegan_ellioTb: I have a p3 866MHz, 512Mbs RAM, and a GeForce 5200 and I can run KDE with a little tiny bit a slowness02:52
blindczer323: yeah, there's more tthan 45 anyway02:52
manterah tnx02:52
rylasasinuh guys how do I get quicktime?02:52
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rylasasinI think thats what I need to veiw YTMND with sound02:53
jribubotu: tell rylasasin about quicktime02:53
gnomefreak!quicktime > rylasasin02:53
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maxlfusionwonderI can't beleive all my names were taken02:53
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jribgnomefreak: you owe blind a soda02:53
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ellioTbkeegan_, i think i am going to install kde just so i can check it out a little more02:53
MaxLFOKay, will the geforce asus 6600 gt 128m work in ubuntu?02:53
AscWhat's the method in bash used to let a program access a file of a different protocol?  Like if I want to cap http://whatever.txt02:53
derekjwwhow do I set up a network with microsoft computers02:53
ramonhi, i recently changed my apt sources to edgy (from dapper) and have only managed to upgrade a few packages. now many things fail with "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings ... are supported and installed on your system ... falling back to standard locale "C". Is there a particular package I should upgrade to fix this?02:53
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w30myesterious, no just copy home to a new partition and then in /etc/fstab make an entry for home. like "/dev/hda3       /home/mydirectory           ext3    defaults        0       0" without the quotes02:54
rylasasinI meant the quicktime pluggin02:54
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:54
jribAsc: some wget incovation02:54
derekjwwyes samba02:54
keegan_ellioTb: I love KDE, I just hate Kopete doesn't tell if people are using AIM with there Cellphone or not, thats all that is stopping me from using KDE lol02:54
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jribAsc: invocation even02:54
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keegan_GTK + QT apps looks good, but QT + GTK looks bleh02:54
jribAsc: wget -O - http://foo  I think02:55
ellioTbkeegan_, lol, can't u just use gaim in KDE? i like the ichat style of kopete, but its so annoying how you can't organize the group names02:55
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keegan_I can't stand seeing how much GAIM stands out in KDE lol02:55
Ascjrib: I'm trying to access a remove volume via http without downloading it.02:55
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czer323i love me some gaim.02:55
detectiveinspektcan someone look at my ip address function02:55
keegan_I love GAIM too, but not in KDE lol02:55
nexsanyea, gaim is pretty cool02:56
nexsanusing it for ir02:56
detectiveinspekttrying to program using sockets at memcpy is going funky02:56
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ellioTbkeegan_, gaim would be awsome if you could "skin" it a little more, or change the appearance better02:56
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cipher_nemoWhen I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:02:56
cipher_nemovo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.02:56
blindi hate gaim for irc.02:56
cipher_nemoIs it normal to not be able to open the x11 display in ubuntu via a root terminal?02:57
wickedpuppydetectiveinspekt, may i ask why you think we are c gurus ?02:57
CrescendoI don't like gaim for IRC either.02:57
ellioTbkeegan_, i just realized how annoying that is you can't see the cellphones02:57
keegan_ellioTb: Totally or if they made kopete better, hopefully KDE4 revamps kopete02:57
b-radHas anyone had an issue with Kubuntu Edgy and the resolution being set to something your monitor cannot deal with?  It starts to boot up, but then the resolution changes to something the monitor can't display and I'm stuck...  anyone got any ideas on what I could do?  I attempted to install the Nvidia drivers, but no such luck.02:57
CrescendoI use XChat.02:57
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ellioTbkeegan_, well i am gonna install KDE right now02:57
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keegan_ellioTb: I hate it too, I am always afraid to IM02:57
CaptainMorganwhere are X11 files located?02:57
Dr_willisI use xchat 2.4 :)02:57
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nexsantrying Konversation02:57
blindb-rad: you're gonna have to do some research and find out the correct horizsync and vertrefresh for your monitor, then edit your xorg.conf02:57
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  which X11 files? theres an X11 directory or 202:57
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nexsanthere i am in konversation02:58
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detectiveinspektyou can program02:58
blindI can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux. >_>02:58
ellioTbi guess i can just install all the diff WM02:58
Dr_willisblind,  normally you run the 'vncserver' command.  (or at least I do)02:58
b-radblind: would that affect bootup as well, unless Kubuntu boots that darn quick heh02:58
ellioTbif i have the Kubuntu cd, can i just install kde off that02:58
nexsan2can't decide which one i like better02:58
CaptainMorganDr_willis, Im trying to install DDD, and at ./configure; make, it says: configure: error: The X11 library '-lX11' could not be found.02:58
wickedpuppydetectiveinspekt, sure i am not saying people here doesnt know .. well its your right to ask :P02:58
blindDr_willis: well vncserver runs Xvnc :]  but lemme try that and see what happens02:58
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  you need to isntall the X11 developer packages.02:58
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CaptainMorganDr_willis, eh? how do I do that?02:59
keegan_Does anyone know where I could a tutorial for LMMS? Its tricky02:59
Dr_willisblind,  check the logs in .vnc, also you may want to make a xstartup script in the dir to run a specific window manager and terminal.02:59
Stevodoes anyone know how to get wireless working in Ubuntu 6.06LTS?02:59
blindDr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25615/02:59
MaxLFWill an asus video card work in linux?02:59
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  fire up the package manager, serrch for the X11 dev pacakges.. click.. install.02:59
wickedpuppykeegan_, i would check for "X11 library" in synaptic02:59
ellioTbkeegan_, if i have the kubuntu cd, can i install kde off that, by adding it to sources.list or whatever02:59
AngelShine@blind: I found something, I do have to install the link you sent me, some GeForce need it, some don't, mine is one of those as I understood... so restarting my X again .... *crossing-fingers* :-)02:59
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ellioTbkeegan_, cause its a pretty big DL03:00
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keegan_ellioTb: You can just go to the synaptic and install it from there, cause if you install it from the CD its gunna take ever longer03:00
ramonhey, anyone know what package my locale en_ZA.UTF8 would be in, it says its not installed on my system and now some programs won't start?03:00
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matjanhi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?03:00
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keegan_ellioTb: Then you can just switch from Gnome or KDE through the GDM03:00
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ellioTbkeegan_, alright its downloading, probably will be done in 10 years03:01
Dr_willisblind,  could not open default font 'fixed'      <----------- this bug has been around for AGES03:01
AscThere's a bash function that allows a program to act on a file inside an archive.  Anybody know what it is?03:01
Dr_willisblind,  personally I would remove the vncserver you installed and install the vnc4server pacakge.03:01
blindDr_willis: there's also Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'03:01
Dr_willisblind,  its smarter and dont have that issue.03:01
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cipher_nemono one can help with my video output problem?03:01
wickedpuppyAsc, whats the extension of the archive ?03:01
blindAlright Dr_willis03:01
ellioTbkeegan_, by the way, if you hold your mouse over a person in Kopete, and there is no buddy icon, it means they are on the phone03:01
Dr_willisblind,  i  THINK the issue with that package is a bug/typo in the vncserver script looking for xf86config not xorg.conf03:01
CaptainMorganDr_willis,  that search came up empty03:02
keegan_ellioTb: Is that so...hm I might switch over...03:02
Dr_willisblind,  but i cant rember the details03:02
Ascwickedpuppy: .tar.gz03:02
detectiveinspektwhat the hell?03:02
Dr_willis!info vnc4server03:02
ubotuvnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB03:02
detectiveinspektgot any ideas?03:02
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ellioTbkeegan_, yeah, just figured it out, still a little bit annoying, but atleast you can tell b4 you message03:02
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wickedpuppyAsc, tar -tvf file.tar.gz03:02
PFAwhat would b ethe command to swapoff hda4?03:02
wickedpuppyAsc, btw look at tar --help03:02
detectiveinspektoh *hit IC03:03
krazykitPFA: swapoff hda403:03
blindDr_willis: I'm not sure how to remove tightvnc :\03:03
avagantWhat is it "sudo alternative-update -- whatever?03:03
wickedpuppyespecially the examples03:03
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krazykitPFA: rather, sudo swapoff /dev/hda403:03
PFAkrazykit, swapoff: hda4: No such file or directory03:03
Dr_willisblind,  apt-get remove whatever03:03
PFAkrazykit, swapoff: /dev/hda4/: No such file or directory03:03
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blindDr_willis: i didn't isntall it from the repos03:03
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krazykitPFA: you sure it's hda4 then?03:03
DaMaakushi everybody - i installed ubuntu and managed to mount two windows partitions, but i cant get samba to share them, can anybody help me with this?03:03
MaxLFis there a list of video cafds that work in ubuntu03:03
AngelShine@blind: It worked, I just saw the NVidia logo, thank you so much! :-)03:03
PFAkrazykit, yup03:03
wickedpuppyAsc, if that doesn't work try tar -tzvf ...03:03
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Ascwickedpuppy: Without extracting the archive.03:03
blindAngelShine: haha I didn't do anything :D03:04
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blindAngelShine: but I'm glad it worked.03:04
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cipher_nemoreposting, as I guess no one out of 860-some ppl can answer this yet :( ... When I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:03:04
cipher_nemovo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.03:04
wickedpuppythat won't extract .. look at tar --help ... -t is for listing -x is for extracting03:04
wickedpuppyAsc, that won't extract .. look at tar --help ... -t is for listing -x is for extracting03:04
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AngelShine@blind: turns out restarting wasn't doing it, had to sudo shutdown -r now to do the trick... don't know why though03:04
krazykitPFA: well... /dev/hda4 isn't a directory, so there shouldn't be the trailing /03:04
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PFAkrazykit, swapoff: /dev/hda4: No such file or directory03:04
AscI am.  Trying to look all those up.03:04
blindAngelShine: weird.03:04
PFAkrazykit, this is a liveCD btw does that make a difference03:05
Dr_willisyou sure its hda403:05
Dr_willisand not some other hda03:05
krazykitPFA: yes.03:05
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PFAkrazykit, sorry03:05
PFADr_willis, yup, i'm looking at it in Gparted as we speak03:05
matjanhi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?03:05
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krazykitPFA: i don't think the liveCD uses available swap...  you could check /etc/mtab and others03:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:05
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PFAkrazykit, well . . . it's got a padlock icon in GParted and won't let me change it. that's all i know.03:06
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Dr_willisIve seen live cd's that scan for swap partitons and use them if found.03:06
Dr_willishow do you remove a swap partiton from use... if its being used.....03:06
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tonyyarussoI have multiple installations accessing some partitions.  I need those partitions user-writable.  Is that a chmod thing or fstab thing?03:06
krazykitPFA: you could check /proc/meminfo to see if there is swap being used03:07
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PFAkrazykit, huh?03:07
markeibhow to autologin?03:07
Ascwickedpuppy: Well, it seems to list the files in an archive.  How would I open one?03:07
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CaptainMorganDr_willis,  that search came up empty, theres plenty of other X11 stuff, but i don't see dev specific03:07
wickedpuppytonyyarusso, its sudo thing if you are talking about premission problems to /etc and such that user does not have access to03:07
krazykitPFA: you're not familiar with the command line, are you :-P03:07
PFAkrazykit, not so much03:07
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krazykitPFA: can't tell you how to do it graphically, and i need to get homework done :-/03:08
tonyyarussowickedpuppy: I mean permanently.  They're things like /multimedia, where I keep my music.  Sudo shouldn't be necessary.03:08
wickedpuppyAsc, again i would look at the tar --help ... the command is tar -zxvf ... you are not looking at the help are you ? they have the examples ...03:08
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  im guessing its somthing like Xlib-dev or similer.. i just tend to click and install everything.03:08
PFAkrazykit, can you explain how to do it CLI-y? lol03:08
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jtholmesatiixp sound card not detected all modules loaded  ideas03:08
cipher_nemoWhen I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:03:08
cipher_nemovo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.03:08
cipher_nemoIs it normal to not be able to open the x11 display in ubuntu via a root terminal?03:08
krazykitPFA: open a terminal, `cat /proc/meminfo` and check for any swap03:08
wickedpuppytonyyarusso, i don't have a dir called multimedia ... so you created using root ? to change owner use chown , to change permission use chmod03:09
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Ascwickedpuppy: Unless you've got a different version of tar than me, -z is an invalid option03:09
Dr_willislibx11-dev - X11 client-side library (development headers)03:09
avagantHow do I get rid of a program I compiled myself?03:09
jtholmesI have read all the documents about sound03:09
PFAkrazykit, looks like it -- SwapTotal SwapFree SwapCached?03:09
wickedpuppyAsc, what did you type ? can paste the whole line here ?03:09
matjanhi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?03:09
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  apt-cache search X11 | grep dev03:09
CaptainMorganthanks Dr_willis found that one03:10
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CaptainMorganlibx11-dev.... so you install Every one of them?03:10
tonyyarussowickedpuppy: I created it during the installation - it's a separate partition.  Additionally, I have _multiple_ installations of Linux, all of which should have access to that partition.  chown/chmod I'm not sure would be the proper way to go, but I don't quite now how it applies in this particular case.03:10
Dr_willisCaptainMorgan,  im guessing thats the one you need.. I tend to just install,... and keep installing. :)03:10
krazykitPFA: those'd be the ones.  you could just try `sudo swapoff /dev/hdaX` replacing X with 1 through 403:10
wickedpuppytonyyarusso, man chmod and man chown03:10
Ascwickedpuppy: tar -tzvf tru*tar.gz Licence.txt03:10
wickedpuppyand permissions .. look for them in google ..03:10
AscAlthough... hm.03:11
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wickedpuppy Asc, again i would look at the tar --help ... the command is tar -zxvf ... you are not looking at the help are you ? they have the examples ...03:11
avagantHow do I get rid of something I compiled on my own?03:11
wickedpuppyits axvf03:11
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PFAkrazykit, what would that accomplish? :/03:11
avagantI don't remember where all the files for it went.03:11
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wickedpuppynot tzvf03:11
krazykitPFA: it'd swapoff anything on those partitions, in case you're wrong about the swap partition or something.03:11
Dr_willisavagant,  sudo make uninstall   - IF you kept the source tree03:11
PFAkrazykit, nope, i'm looking at it in GParted right now03:12
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avagantsource tree?03:12
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avagantWell amarok has last.fm support so I figure it's pretty stupid to have last-exit.03:12
hsunda3Does anybody here run Ubuntu inside Vmware on a Windows XP host? I am doing so (and everything is great) but I am getting worried about the memory consumption. Any ideas?03:12
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Dr_willisavagant,  you compiled it from source... that directory03:12
Agrajaghsunda3: buy more ram03:12
avagantit says "no rule to uninstall"03:13
Dr_willishsunda3,  tell xp to quit slurping down the ram. :)03:13
hsunda3Agrajag: indeed.. that's on my agenda for Thanksgiving.03:13
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Dr_willisavagant,  now you know why package managment was invented.03:13
hsunda3Dr_willis: hmmm.... as far as I know, only Firefox takes up my ram on Windows XP. Otherwise I have no complaints.03:13
markeibcan i uninstall kaffeine without having to install all the kde desktop?03:13
Dr_willisavagant,  check the docs and makefile..  the guy may of not bothered.03:13
PFAkrazykit, omg i am stupid03:14
Dr_willishsunda3,  you allocate X amount of ram for the vmware thing.. and it uses it.. whats the problem?03:14
PFAkrazykit, i was trying to do the extended instead of logical partition!03:14
PFAkrazykit, thanks for all your help03:14
Dr_willisPFA,  i was wondering that...03:14
hsunda3Dr_willis: you are right .. I do set the upper limit on the RAM ... just that I am not running X on the Ubuntu ... not a complaint Dr_Willis :) ubuntu is great.. just curious .03:14
blindDr_willis: I've got it working, but still can't connect to it :\03:15
hsunda3Dr_willis: I am running LAMP on my UBuntu inside Vmware and it is just awesomely convenient ... nothing could be better..03:15
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viatorwhy run ubuntu in vmware?03:15
avagantDr_willis: What about "make clean"03:16
viatorid run xp in vmware its the only safe way03:16
tritiumavagant: nope03:16
hsunda3viator: don't have the patience to get it running given my laptop hardware03:16
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hsunda3viator: safe is a matter of perception, really.03:16
avagantSee I have the directory of files, but it's skill in bin03:16
viatoryeah ;)03:16
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hsunda3viator: I am safer running Windows, since I tend to play around less. With Ubuntu I tend to break it more often given how much you can play around with the kernel and so on :)03:16
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Dr_willisavagant,  gcc 101 - that cleans the source tree. :)03:17
hsunda3but inside of Vmware, I can do all kinds of stuff, knowing that a drastic mistake only means a new image .. nothing could be simpler :)03:17
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viatorsure same for xen etc03:17
Dr_willishsunda3,  im running windows under vmware in Ubuntu. Heh03:17
viatorwell kinda03:17
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avagantDr_willis: Will that get rid of the "bin" files too?03:18
hsunda3Dr_willis: I would have too ... but sometimes Windows just does the job for me .. primarily playing music from a couple of websites.03:18
Dr_willisavagant,  no idea.. it aint somthing i worry about..03:18
viatorhsunda3 im interested in what sites the music wont play for you03:18
avagantWell I guess it doesn't matter as long as last-fm is gone.03:18
viatorin linux03:18
hsunda3Dr_willis: also, I generally don't run X. So it just runs in the background. I SSH into my Ubuntu running inside the Vmware!03:18
Dr_willisavagant,  if it did - it would remov the bin files from the source tree directory.. NOT the system,03:19
raphaHelp! Ubuntu Server 6.06 always does a reboot right after GRUB ... doesn't even load Linux kernel... :(03:19
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viatorwhat are they?03:19
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hsunda3viator: http://musicindiaonline.com and http://raaga.com ..these are both sites that serve Indian music .. and use RealPlayer.03:19
Dr_willishsunda3,  ! blasphmy! you got it totally backwards!03:19
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Dr_willishsunda3,  ya could use that xming and have X apps on your windows desktop also :)03:19
blindDr_willis: any clue why it's running, I set a password, but I still can't connect?03:19
Dr_willisblind,  check the log files03:20
CaptainMorganDr_willis, now I know what you mean... 5th time Ive installed something different03:20
hsunda3Dr_willis: indeed, I have practically the entire Cygwin installed .. when I compile the kernel I do the make xconfig on Cygwin :)03:20
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blindDr_willis: I'm trying to connect from a different computer.03:20
Dr_willishsunda3,  i found xming just for the X stuff works nicer then Cygwin.03:20
blindoh wait. nevermind03:20
Dr_willisblind,  try connecting locally first. vncviewer localhost:1 or :2 or whatever03:20
markeibwhy can't i uninstall gaim without uninstalling gnome-desktop?03:20
hsunda3viator: ironically the website (http://musicindiaonline.com) even has instructions for playing it on Linux. But i couldn't figure it. Guess I didn't have codecs or something.03:21
tritiummarkeib: because of package dependencies03:21
Dr_willisblind,  also kill the vncserver with 'vncserver -kill :1' (or is it --kill)03:21
avagantDr_willis: Well it's still showing in bin.03:21
Dr_willisblind,  that kills it nicely03:21
avagantSo I guess I didn't do something right.03:21
ryanakcaI've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)03:21
tritiummarkeib: you can do it, but when you go to dist-upgrade to edgy, you'll likely want to reinstall ubuntu-desktop03:21
Dr_willisavagant,  make clean does NOT remove the binaries from the /bin as i said.. it removes the stuff from the source tree directory03:21
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avagantso i have to go into bin and remove it myself?03:22
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hsunda3markeib: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package that lists the other packages. Therefore it is not required for a running system, but when upgrading to a newer release that *package* is required.03:22
avagantSee now I have more space, I knew it was kde.03:22
Dr_willisavagant,  thats what 'sudo make uninstall' would do. or check the docs.. the gjy may be doing somthing different03:22
viatoryeah im playing it right now03:22
JimersonI have a question03:22
tritiumavagant: in the future, use checkinstall if you compile stuff from source.  Better to find ubuntu packages, though.03:22
viatorthat indain music is kinda funky03:22
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Dr_willisavagant,  gee. removing stuff - does normally give you more drive space. :)03:22
viatorin a good way03:22
bdragonmsldoes 6.10 use the latest nvidia drivers??03:22
tonyyarussoHow to define mount options for drives that are managed through hal?  For instance, I would like to have all USB flash drives mount with the sync option rather than the default of async, but of course such devices do not exist in fstab.03:22
mike-digiport-I tried installing squid with --enable-ssl, and on Make, I get the error03:23
markeibso hsunda that means that03:23
viatoron a side note there is a realplayer in the repos03:23
avagantI have 2 10gb hd's, and the main one was like 4.3gb from like 5.903:23
mike-digiport-cannot find openSSL headers03:23
markeibhey i think i understand03:23
viatorthe plf repos03:23
blindDr_willis: this is weird O_o. I connected via HTTP, using the java applet. worked fine, tried connecting, it tells me it can't connect to the VNC server.03:23
avagantI might try that fluxbox though.03:23
viatorim using mplayer03:23
Dr_willisi got 10gb+ in just my wallpapers directory03:23
markeibthe package isn't anything it just has all these dependencies to be easy to use03:23
tritium!nvidia-glx edgy03:23
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8774+ (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB03:23
hsunda3viator: depends on what you are playing. Good to hear you could get it playing. A couple of my friends managed it too, but I prefer to use each operating system for what it does best.....03:23
blindbut don't the VNC server and http server both run off the same program?03:23
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Dr_willisblind,  how are you trying to connect?03:23
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Dr_willisblind,  the port #'s are different for one thing03:23
blindright now im on a separate computer03:23
viatortold it to use windows media player and it worked03:23
blindusing Real VNC03:23
hsunda3viator: Wow! that's interseting ..03:23
JimersonI am trying to configure my iBook's trackpad in the xorg.conf file, but I'm not sure which setting to modify under the synaptics touchpad input device.03:24
cipher_nemoI think viator has the wrong channel03:24
blindi also tried the java applet. it connected to the applet, but won't connect to the vnc03:24
Dr_willisblind,  what port# are you using with the java applet?03:24
cipher_nemoviator: wrong channel?03:24
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hsunda3cipher_nemo: no .. :) he is not.03:24
blind5801 for the java, 5901 for VNC03:24
viatorkind of03:24
amonkeyi'm trying to install ubuntu and the livecd only detects my integrated graphics. how do i tell it to use my addon card?03:24
hsunda3cipher_nemo: he is just testing a website for me.. checking if he is able to stream songs from a website I couldn't earlier :)03:24
Dr_willisblind,  try vncserver ip#:103:24
cipher_nemoI'm seeing viator's comments... but don't see a link to anything else in the channel, lol03:24
Dr_willisnot 590103:25
tritiumamonkey: try disabling the onboard graphics in the BIOS03:25
cipher_nemohsunda3: ahhh03:25
viatoramonkey is it disabled in the bios03:25
blindwith the # sign?03:25
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amonkeytritium: i can't, i can select which has priority (start first) but i can't just drop it03:25
amonkeyviator: ditto03:25
hsunda3blind if I might interrupt, what are you having problems with?03:26
Dr_willisblind,  No.. use the ip# :)03:26
Dr_willisor name03:26
blindhsunda3: vnc03:26
JimersonAnyone familiar with modifying those trackpad settings?03:26
blindDr_willis: thought so, had to ask03:26
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JavaDeveloperHi, I have a question regarding Gnome startup environment, I put Java in PATH in .bashrc, somehow in Gnome, I run Eclipse by clicking an icon that runs Eclipse, it couldn't find Java by saying "'Java' is not in your current PATH"03:26
blindDr_willis: it timed out o.o03:26
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blindbut im connected via ssh right now03:26
retercan i upgrade from hoary to edgy eft?03:26
Dr_willisblind,  Hmm... im wonderin if windows isent messing with somthing.03:26
JavaDeveloperBut if I run it in shell, I could run it03:26
hsunda3blind what VNC server are you using?03:26
Dr_willisblind,  you got a desktop on the vncserver machine?03:26
tritiumreter: yes, but ask in #ubuntu+103:27
Dr_willisblind,  try vncserver localhost:103:27
hsunda3blind: the built in one or did you install one?03:27
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elizabethwhen i started up ubuntu it said that /dev/hda6 could not be found . . . all this crazy stuff about fsck. i just deleted that partition in a liveCD. what should i do so it doesn't try to mount it at startup?03:27
Dr_willisblind,  also do a ps - and see if vnc is really running03:27
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, have you reloaded bash?03:27
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blindit is, Dr_willis i checked the log, it showed the HTTP request.03:27
blindplus it's in ps aux03:27
Jimersonhehe, lemme know when it slows down and I'll ask mine again later03:27
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blindhsunda3: installed vnc4server03:27
Dr_willisblind,  so try on the vnc machine the vncserver localhost:103:27
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: yes03:27
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kupesoftI want to fix the button that triggers the screen to shut off when I close up my laptop.  What is that button called?03:28
blindDr_willis: all i have right now via ssh is a cli03:28
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Dr_willisblind,  eww. :)03:28
viatoreleizabeth edit etc/fstab03:28
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, can we see the path line from .bashrc?03:28
blindDr_willis: im not quite sure what im doing :P03:28
viatorremove any refrence to it03:28
Dr_willisblind,  well the trick is - for most vncclients you dont tell it  5901 - you just tell it '1'03:28
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: sure03:28
blindDr_willis: i don't know ssh03:28
hsunda3blind: it might not be very easy to launch a vncserver using SSH :) .. the $DISPLAY will be all messed up ..03:28
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Dr_willisI run the vncserver all the time with ssh.03:29
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, when you type java in commandline what you get?03:29
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Dr_willisssh in, run vncserver -- I get a line like ------------>   New 'Audigy:1 (willis)' desktop is Audigy:103:29
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viatorPFA get that post?03:29
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/19049103:29
hsunda3Dr_willis: do you forward your X through SSH?03:29
Dr_willisI can then go to the windows machine and point the vncviewer to "Audigy:1'03:29
mcquaidhello, anyone know about troubleshooting DriveReady SeekComplete Error type errors when dealing with cdrom/dvd drom drives?03:30
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: it shows my 1.4.2 JDK03:30
blindmeh, im going home. i'll figure this out there.03:30
Dr_willishsunda3,  hes on a windows box. :P  so i dont think hes doing that.03:30
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GekitsuuI may have missed the beginning of the conversation but instead of fowarding my x session I just use an ssh tunnel with vnc03:30
mcquaidI'm at my wits end trying to get this burner burning successfully again. it doesn't seem to be a linux problem as i make coasters in windows as well03:30
Dr_willisblind,  this is on a local lan? or are you doing it through the internet?03:30
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hsunda3Dr_willis: Ah ok ...03:31
mcquaidat first i thought the drive was dying (it reads discs fine just burns coasters even though it says burnt successfully)03:31
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: the story went like this, I installed jdk1.4.2_12 manually specifically for Opentab ERP cuz it doesn't work on jdk1.5.  Then I tried to redirect Java to 1.4.2 by using updating alternative.  However, on UbuntuGuide, it doesn't show me how to do that since all those are talking about how to download JDK1.503:31
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wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, echo $PATH03:31
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wickedpuppywhat you get?03:31
mcquaidso i ignored it for awhile assuming the burner was dying.  but i finally got a new dvd burner and i'm still making coasters03:31
wickedpuppyand echo $JAVA_HOME03:31
tritiumJavaDeveloper: there are ubuntu packages of SUN's java03:31
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/19049403:31
kitchemcquaid: maybe bad IDE controller03:32
mcquaidi thought maybe bad ram, i did memtest for 10 hours with no errors, i've tried 3 different ide cables03:32
tritium!java > JavaDeveloper03:32
JavaDevelopertritium: yeah but I lovely to download and install manually cuz I need to change JAVA_HOME to do some tests03:32
mcquaidkitche, ya i'm thinking that, hoping it isn't03:32
JavaDevelopertritium: *love03:32
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tritiumJavaDeveloper: you can change JAVA_HOME with environment variables03:33
mcquaidkitche, there is another drive on the same ide channel that gives me no issue03:33
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, it seems to be ok ... the path is in $PATH..03:33
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JavaDevelopertritium: changed and I even fixed update-alternatives manullay by redirecting the symlink in /etc/alternative/java, javaws and java_vm and completely ignore update-alternative03:33
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avagantSO IN ORDER to get fluxbox I just put "sudo apt-get install fluxbox?03:34
jribavagant: yes03:34
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: let me try to show you what eclipse says03:34
avagantand everything i had before will still be here huh?03:34
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tritiumJavaDeveloper: doesn't sound right...03:34
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: sorry, just wait a bit cuz I am downloading callisto plugins :P03:34
viatoravagant yes03:34
wickedpuppybtw you are running eclipse on the same shell right ?03:34
viatorand you can choose which de you want to use03:34
LookTJHi people03:34
viatorfrom gdm03:34
LookTJwhat's up y'all03:35
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Jimerson(going to ask my question again.. :p)03:35
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ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience03:35
LookTJ> jimerson03:35
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: what do you mean by same shell?  before I modified the symlink, I didn't have problem running eclipse by clicking on the 'shortcut icon' on desktop that I created but not after03:35
wickedpuppywhat symlink ?03:35
JimersonI am trying to get the touchpad on my ibook working by modifying the synaptics touchpad section of xorg.conf, yet I don't know which setting controls the cursor speed. Anyone able to help?03:35
reter\what is the page to upgrade to dapper drake?03:35
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: /etc/alternative/java, /etc/alternative/javaws and /etc/alternative/java_vm03:36
jribubotu: tell reter about upgrade03:36
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tritiumJavaDeveloper: you're saying that running sudo update-alternatives didn't work?03:36
JimersonI mean, the touchpad works, it just goes very slow.03:36
suff0kateIs there a battle.net bot for ubuntu?03:36
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, sometimes i have 3 bash terminals opened in gnome ... if i re load bash in one , i need to re load all so the they are all getting the latest bashrc .. btw you are NOT andy leung ... are you ?03:36
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JavaDevelopertritium: thanks for your link, but I thought I've already mentioned I need JDK 1.4, not 1.503:37
viatorfunny my touchpad is REALLY slow under windows03:37
viatorunder ubuntu uts fast but not too fast03:37
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: yes I am03:37
wickedpuppyno kid ... i thought its the singer ...03:37
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wickedpuppyone of the heavenly kings03:37
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JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: lol...anyway I am just a small potatoe...I even restart my computer to load bash for my gnome but whenever I run that shortcut icon that I make for eclipse, it gave me error message03:38
suff0katehow do u mask ur ip with gaim?03:38
terrIs there an "educational" version of ubuntu suitable for junior high?03:38
kitchesuff0kate do you mean though tor or just masking?03:39
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, just type bash and it will reload ...03:39
LookTJJimerson: use usb mouse instead to save the trouble03:39
CaptainMorganfolks, i successfully installed DDD, however I would like to add it to the App/Programming Menu, how do I do this?03:39
viatorunder ubuntu go under system >prefrences> mouse03:39
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suff0katesomething to cover up my ip when i am in a irc channel like this one03:39
jribterr: I'm not sure what level edubuntu is targeted at, but are you aware of it?03:39
viatoryou can increase the speed03:39
CaptainMorganit's exec is in /usr/local/bin03:39
viatorof your touchpad there03:39
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, you have trouble loading eclipse or trouble compiling or running programs after loading eclipse ?03:39
JimersonI have but it is not always convenient as when I am in a car or in class :\03:39
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JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/19050003:40
kitchesuff0kate: use tor or donate to freenode to get a cloak03:40
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: trouble loading it from gnome but not in terminal03:40
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svidhey all, I need help setting up an svid-out port on my laptop03:40
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, can i trouble you to right click on the icon on the desktop and go to properties ? look at the command03:40
ryanakcaI've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)03:41
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: not a problem, cuz I make it up and it did work before I replaced the symlink for alternative03:41
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JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/19050103:41
anuvis001what is the best target wifi(pci) for ubuntu???03:41
JavaDeveloperanuvis001: I have used Linksys's card and they are pretty good03:41
suff0kateokay i downloaded tor now what do i do to use it?03:42
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, the command is the same as you run from the terminal ?03:42
JavaDeveloperanuvis001: even the USB one is very easy to install03:42
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: yes03:42
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terrjrib no - I wasn't aware of it.03:42
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raphaWhat JERK decided to remove isapnptools from the ubuntu repos?03:42
terrjrib - I'm a developer and am happy with Debian (so far).03:42
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terrjrib - I'm doing this for a friend who runs a high school lab03:43
Mortuisquick noob question: How do I tell how much RAM this computer has?03:43
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pharglerapha: i did it03:43
hsunda3Mortuis: cat /etc/meminfo03:43
anuvis001and the d-link ?03:43
raphaphargle: sorry for the jerk then, but... Why?03:43
terrMortuis:  check the boot info - dmesg03:43
pharglei didnt really03:43
sorush20Seveas: will you be updating that source-o-matic ?03:43
anuvis001is good or not??03:43
terrMortuis:  top also tells you.03:44
hsunda3yes of course! top as well..03:44
crimsunrapha: it was removed on July 28, 2005 from the Debian unstable repository, and when Ubuntu synced, the source package was also removed.03:44
Mortuishsunda3: no such file :-(03:44
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kitchesuff0kate: read this http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor03:44
jribterr: I see.  Well edubuntu.org is all I know about it.  But all the *buntu's are the same thing except a different meta-package to choose the default apps.  So your friend can always add whatever apps he feels would be useful through apt03:44
hsunda3Mortuis: sorry: cat /proc/meminfo03:44
Mortuisbut top worked, I wanted to see if this memory I installed was good.03:44
crimsunrapha: see http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/isapnptools/news/20050728T183210Z.html03:45
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raphacrimsun: ah okay, thanks. I'll go and blame Debian then :)03:45
terrMortuis:  dmesg is a command...03:45
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snook353apt-get upgraded ephiphany-browser, and it crashes!!03:45
Mortuiscat /proc/meminfo   worked as well03:45
hsunda3terr: I think he was talking about my incorrect /etc/meminfo (it should be /proc/meminfo)03:45
Mortuisthanks again03:45
raphacrimsun: too bad, no reason given...03:45
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hsunda3Mortuis: :)03:45
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terrhsunda3:  ok - no worries03:45
crimsunrapha: sure there is, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=31835903:45
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noumaanmy keyboards shift keys not working for unknown reasons. i want to know how could i assign the shift key role to some other key on my keyboard/03:46
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terrjrib: Thanks - I was lookin for the link at ubuntu and missed it.03:46
snook353i have breezy, and i don't want to get dapper, cuz it won't work with my laptop03:46
snook353the cursor doesn't change speed.  it goes really slow across the screen03:46
ryanakcanoumaan: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'... it'll give you the option somewhere along the way03:46
bdragonmslcould anyone help with getting my nvidia drivers installed?03:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:47
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JavaDeveloperanuvis001: it's not that stable03:47
CaptainMorganfolks, i successfully installed DDD, however I would like to add it to the App/Programming Menu, how do I do this? it's exec is located in /usr/local/bin and at $bash: ddd is a command not found error03:47
raphacrimsun: that is bad news for me. Any idea how I could get an old ISA card working on the current Ubuntu kernel then?03:47
crimsunrapha: what type of isa card?03:47
raphacrimsun: NIC with BNC connector.03:47
terrjrib:  I'm blind.  I ignored the related projects.03:47
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Jimersonsnook353 I have the same  problem with my cursor03:47
crimsunrapha: is the driver loaded?03:48
bruenigCaptainMorgan, do you have alacarte?>03:48
snook353is edgy Really gonna be better than breezy and dapper?03:48
raphacrimsun: Works under OpenBSD afair... and used to work under Slackware.03:48
wickedpuppyJavaDeveloper, i can't figure out why eclipse is not getting the PATH03:48
snook353yeah, it was unmanagable for me, so i put breezy back on, jimerson03:48
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bruenigsnook353, in theory, else it wouldn't be released. But what is 'better' is subject to individual need and definition03:48
raphacrimsun: let me try to find that out03:48
suff0kateYou do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. WHY DOES IT SAY THAT 24/703:48
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TrendKi||hey guys, anyone can point me to a link for getting madwifi in the module-assistant?03:49
Jimersonsnook353 kind of computer are you running?03:49
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jribubotu: tell suff0kate about permissions03:49
snook353yeah.  i've got a five-year old laptop - toshiba sat 1407, i believe.  i'll check on the numbers03:49
kitchesuff0kate: where are you trying to save the file though03:49
JavaDeveloperwickedpuppy: it's okay, I will run it from shell then....thank you very much03:49
CaptainMorganah.. thanks bruenig03:49
snook353jimerson, 1405 - s17103:49
bruenigCaptainMorgan, lol, glad that one question spawned a solution...03:50
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snook353i want to upgrade, but its insane to use a mouse that slow wth dapper, jimerson03:50
Jimersonsnook353 I wonder what would happen if you copied the synaptic touchpad inputdevice settings and pasted them into xorg.conf in dapper03:50
hsunda3has anybody here used the rope programming language in Ubuntu?03:51
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Jimersonsnook353 I'm a real newbie at this so it is just an idea03:51
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snook353well, idk, but i'll try it!03:51
raphacrimsun: dmesg says it's a D-Link DE220 (it is)... but from reading the rest of dmesg and also the lsmod output I'd say there is no module loaded.03:51
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anuvis001thanks you  4<JavaDeveloper>03:51
noumaanryanakca,  For example, if you wish the Caps Lock key to behave as an additional     03:51
noumaan  Control key, you may enter "ctrl:nocaps"; if you would like to switch     03:51
noumaan  the Caps Lock and left Control keys, you may enter "ctrl:swapcaps".03:51
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noumaanryanakca,  how do i set it to use capslock as shift key/03:51
snook353have you done that, jimerson?03:51
Jimersonif you give me settings that breezy gives you I'll try them on my dapper03:51
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fergeranyone here use xubuntu?03:52
Jimersonsnook353 no, I just installed linux for the first time ever yesterday.. and dapper it was03:52
snook353ok....i don't know where to find that stuff, jimerson03:52
tgelterI just updated to edgy and now I can't get booted...I think it's not loading dmraid right, anyone able to help?03:52
snook353Oh, that's great!  but too bad...jimerson03:52
Flanneltgelter: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support03:52
knixtechferger, just ask your question03:52
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Flannelferger: people in #xubuntu use xubuntu, if you really need some xubuntu specific help03:52
crimsunrapha: lsmod |grep ^ne03:52
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knixtechferger, fur burgers?03:52
snook353jimerson, where would i find the input settings?  i'll do it if you can tell me03:53
fergerhaha no, but i get that all the time03:53
cipher_nemoHow do I copy all of one user's settings (and Firefox info) to another user account?03:53
knixtechha,  go to xubuntu03:53
fergerlike how doctor evil says father03:53
raphacrimsun: nope, nothing. Just "new_wlan" which belongs to one of the other two interfaces.03:53
Jimersonsnook353 the xorg.conf file is "sudo gedit //etc/x11/xorg.conf03:53
bruenigciper_nemo, copy over the ~/.mozilla directory03:53
FlannelJimerson, snook353, gksudo not sudo03:53
crimsunrapha: sudo modprobe ne03:53
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snook353ok, thanks flannel03:53
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: and all the ~/ including . for other settings03:53
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Jimersonsnook353 let me make it more clear- in terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf"03:54
hsunda3is anybody familiar with the difference between -Y and -X on a SSH X Forward? I know one is *trusted* and the other is not, but that means what?03:54
FlannelJimerson, snook353, and no double //, and you'll probably want to put the command in quotes03:54
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: profiles in linux is a breeze :)03:54
Jimersonflannel snook353 oops03:54
bur[n] erJimerson: gksudo works better when it's a gui app03:54
snook353ok jimerson flannel03:54
Jimersonthanks guys03:54
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raphacrimsun: there we got another prob now. I'm running the system from the CD's rescue mode because the shipped kernel won't boot. So, naturally, no access to the drivers in the real /lib/modules :(03:54
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crimsunhsunda3: -Y is not subject to the X11 SECURITY extension controls03:54
bruenigis there any difference between gksudo and gksu03:54
Jimersonas I said it is only my second day :\03:55
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hsunda3crimsun: so anything I should know in particular to connect to my home machine from my laptop while on the road?03:55
noumaani am reconfiguring xserver xorg and i want to assign the shift key role to the capslock key how i do that.03:55
cipher_nemobur[n] er: a breeze, but only after I know them :) can you give me full paths of what to copy?  my user I want to copy is ciphernemo, and the user I want to add my settings to is mythtv, and I'm in a root terminal window now03:55
crimsunhsunda3: -X is preferred to -Y03:55
hsunda3crimsun: ah ok ..03:55
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crimsunrapha: so ne is loaded now? Can you ifup the interface?03:56
snook353flannel, jimerson, it says this:  (gedit:10394): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:03:56
snook353Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.03:56
bruenigwhen I do gksu nautilus and gksudo nautilus, at least graphically everything is the same03:56
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hsunda3bur[n] er: actually you can use gksu for any user, not just root (as longas you have the password for that user) ... it's similar to the way su and sudo work03:56
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: cp -a /home/ciphernemo /home/mythtv && sudo chown -R mythtv:mythtv /home/mythtv03:56
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bruenigsnook353, if it still launches don't worry about it, that warning is a bug that doesn't mean anything03:56
Jimersonsnook353 there is another way to get there without the terminal.. one moment and I will try and figure it out03:56
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w30    cipher_nemo maybe copy all the users .files to the new user and change the ownership and group to the new user? That would configure every yhing almost.03:56
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: that also sets the priveleges for mythtv to see cipher_nemo's files that you copied03:56
fergerall my desktop icons disappeared and when i right click on the desktop, the menu doesnt drop down anymore03:56
snook353ok, jimerson03:56
knewthow do i configure my partitions during the installer without using the "partition disks" option? this being because that doesn't know about them03:56
bur[n] erw30: that's what I said... only via commands03:57
hsunda3ferger: that would probably mean you are not running any desktop at all. What Desktop Environment are you using?03:57
sorush20is there anything equivalent to windows recovery in linux or ubuntu?03:57
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bruenigknewt, you can go to System>Administration>Gnome Partition editor, although I think the one in the installer is the same thing03:57
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi03:57
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snook353jimerson, it show an empty file03:57
cipher_nemobur[n] er: thx!03:57
raphacrimsun: no, it's not loaded. The ne module is only included with the installed system, but right now I have to run off the CD. That's my second problem though, Ubuntu 6.06 Server's kernel appears not to work on computers with 48Meg of RAM...03:57
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ryanakcanoumaan: no clue... sorry, I just know that it's possible using that command...03:57
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: np03:57
Dr_willissorush20,  remind me what windows-recovery does?03:57
knewtbruenig: i'm using the expert server install03:57
w30bur[n] er, good that would be better03:57
ryanakcanoumaan: aka, I forget how I had done it..03:57
Jimersonmenu->places->computer->filesystem->etc->x11 snook35303:58
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cipher_nemow30: I don't think I'll need to do that since pretty clean system just for use as a PVR03:58
bruenigknewt, ah03:58
snook353ok, jimerson03:58
noumaanryanakca,  what about shift:swapcaps03:58
Jimersonsnook353 try it through that and it will work, I had trouble with the terminal too03:58
cipher_nemow30: but would be good to know in the future :)03:58
ryanakcanoumaan: have you tried using a differrent keyboardmap?03:58
sorush20Dr_willis: key files are replaced , just wondering if my key files could alos be replaced..03:58
ryanakcanoumaan: maybe03:58
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noumaanryanakca,  yes03:58
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knewtbruenig: and my "partitions" are all device-mapped. i've got them set up, but i need to get the ubuntu installer to know about them03:58
ryanakcanoumaan: kk03:58
bruenigknetw, I got nothing03:58
crimsunrapha: you chroot into your Ubuntu install and install another kernel.03:59
cipher_nemoburner and w30, thx for the help... I'll relog and check it out03:59
avagantOk, I'm using fluxbox, and I like it.03:59
snook353jimerson, ok , i got it03:59
avagantThis is about the easiest thing in the world.03:59
Stevowho knows about wireless in ubuntu?03:59
snook353i'll paste it03:59
gunfusHello guys03:59
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Jimersonsnook353 great! Now scrolls down until you find input devices synaptic touchpad03:59
cipher_nemobur[n] er: does the two commands you gave me also transfer Firefox bookmarks?03:59
gunfusI am trying to learn more about the linux source03:59
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Dr_willissorush20,  a users 'key' files would all be in the home dir..  system wide - hmm.. /etc/ and a few other spots.. so ive not noiticed any similer programs for linux. you could make your own.. but how do you know whats imporiutant or not. :P03:59
w30cipher_nemo, I keep a fake user on my system so I can steal files when I f#%@$%up, god knows I do it enough.03:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:59
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gunfusI wonder if anyone has a good recomendation on where to start reading the source03:59
gunfusor what is someone easy to understand04:00
gunfusso far I am looking at v4l04:00
gunfuswhich is not too bad04:00
bur[n] ercipher_nemo: yes... it copies settings for all programs04:00
Dr_willisgunfus,  what source specfically?04:00
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bur[n] ercipher_nemo: be it firefox favorites, or thunderbird configuration04:00
sorush20Dr_willis: I think that would com  under the easy backup project that is under develop04:00
gunfusright now I am looking at tuner.c04:00
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retercan i go from hoary to dapper and skip breezy updates?04:00
cipher_nemow30: ahhh, makes sense :) I'm sure I would to if I was using ubuntu as my primary desktop... fortunately I can only fup right now, because onces MythTV is working, I won't do much else with the pc :)04:00
Dr_willissorush20,  i can say that ive never really had much of a need to backup the stuff. :P04:00
snook353*looking*, jimerson04:01
avagantreter: I've read that wasn't adviced.04:01
cipher_nemobur[n] er: cool, thx again!04:01
bur[n] erreter: i wouldn't advise it... i killed a pc doing that once04:01
ArrenLexreter: when you apt-get dist-upgrade, you go to the newest packages in your repositories.04:01
Xenguyreter: I don't think that is recommended :-/04:01
cipher_nemothat was easy :)04:01
hsunda3gunfus: the source is too massive. Perhaps you might be better off determining what part of the source you want to learn first, and then look at that section of the code. Or you could start from a scratch at something like kernelnewbies.org or something04:01
crimsunreter: it's not recommended to skip stable releases when dist-upgrading. That said, it's doable if you have patience and diligence.04:01
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Ubuntu-neHello all.04:01
sheepy1988hey folks, anyone good with rhythmbox?04:01
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bur[n] ersheepy1988: define "good with" ;)04:01
gunfushsunda3: I will go to that04:01
snook353ok, i found several things about the  input devices synaptic touchpad, jimerson04:01
bruenigsheepy1988, just ask04:01
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raphacrimsun: I'm already chrooted into it and am happily doing stuff. I just don't know which of the Ubuntu kernels that are in the repos could suit a box with 48MB of RAM?04:01
crimsunrapha: -38604:02
hsunda3gunfus: http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHacking04:02
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raphacrimsun: that's what the -server kernel is...04:02
ryanakcaI've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)04:02
sheepy1988my rhythmbox doesnt play mp3s for some reason, i dont know if its because they're from an ipod backup disc or because its on a dvd, or because i havent got a decoder installed (newbie)04:02
errrI did a server install of ubuntu, I did apt-get install gnome and got all the stuff needed for a gui now, but Im not sure the command to use to kick off the X server setup, any hints?04:02
gunfushsunda3: THANKS!04:02
crimsunrapha: the -server kernel has a different config to -38604:02
Jimersonsnook353 can you email me all the options under that section?04:02
raphacrimsun: aaah okay... thx then :)04:02
bruenigsheepy1988, ubuntu doesn't have mp3 support by default, you have to install it04:02
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ArrenLexerrr: apt-get install xserver-xorg x-window-system-core04:03
bruenigubotu, tell sheepy1988 about mp304:03
hsunda3gunfus: what you were searching for?04:03
snook353i've pasted it, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25619/ jimerson04:03
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La_PaRCaWhat would be the right software for someone to use on windows if they want to share their webcam with me in ekiga?04:03
Ubuntu-neRandom question to the room: Should a basic Ubuntu install allow for desktops larger than 1024x768 for an Nvidia 5900?04:03
Jimersonsnook353 ah thanks04:03
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sheepy1988any hints on where to get the decorder and what not?04:03
mortal5for mplayer, don't you put your codecs in /usr/lib/codecs?04:03
bruenigsheepy1988, check this04:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:03
ArrenLexUbuntu-ne: yes.04:03
errrArrenLex: wouldnt apt-get install gnome have added an Xserver considering it wont run with out one?04:03
crimsunmortal5: /usr/lib/win32/04:03
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snook353so you have about the same toshiba, jimerson?04:03
ArrenLexmortal: /usr/lib/win32 is default, although codecs will also work04:04
Ubuntu-neArreLex.. hmmm. Thanks. I was afraid of that.04:04
sorush20Dr_willis: google is offering something like this http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/index.html, I think it would be a great idea for ubuntu to do something similar where by if you have to reinstall your root partition and download update etc you would be able to sync back to the origianl ubuntu that you left. I do not mean backing up all your root partition but just your fav programs that you would like to 04:04
gunfushsunda3: well first I want to get my tuner video card working and for that I am working with the v4l guys.. next I guess I wanted to look into monitoring my system which I tried a couple of months ago.. but I wasn't that much into the coding stuff04:04
Jimersonsnook353 no, but my options ar ethe exact same :(04:04
ArrenLexerr: not necessarily. Check.04:04
snook353Oh :(04:04
sheepy1988cheers mate04:04
Ubuntu-neI blew up my Xconfig trying to get above 1024x768.04:04
sorush20other things like source aditions from your fave sources is essential too..04:04
snook353jimerson:  hmmm04:04
errrArrenLex: wow what a rip, it didnt, but now it is.. that seems like a bug :)04:04
Jimersonsnork353 was worth a shot- thanks04:04
alex_ubuntu I am trying to enable the printer I have located on my routers printer port in cups, any help..04:04
ryanakcaI've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)04:04
gunfushsunda3: now I am thinking of something like getting this 256 RAM box PII box working with some linux04:04
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hsunda3gunfus: good luck!04:05
bruenigSoekisan, that is a lot of server space that is essentially unnecessary seeing as if you want the app back, you can download it again anyways04:05
snook353sorush20, you bought an external usb mouse, and it works better than the toughpad, jimerson?04:05
bruenigsorry Soekisan I meant sorush2004:05
Jimersonsnook353 usb mouse works fine, my touchpad does not04:05
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ArrenLexerrr: it's not a bug. Some people might want to install gnome on, for example, a network machine which serves the environment or applications for use by other machines running X on the network.04:05
gunfushsunda3: Thanks04:05
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raphacrimsun: is there a specification or something somewhere that says what the minimum requirements for the Ubuntu kernels are?04:05
snook353Oh, well that's better than nothing, jimerson04:05
gunfushsunda3: I should probably look into gento for installing linux on the 256 RAM box, eh?04:05
viatori configure my touch pad through the gui04:06
Dr_willissorush20,  theres several bookmark cacheing sites/tools out.. i was using that google one.. but some how it lost my bookmarks. :(  using Del.icio.us right now04:06
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hsunda3gunfus: probably not until you are quite comfortable with Linux in general .. for which of course Ubuntu is the best way to get started..04:06
nadsHello... can anyone please help me set up my VPN connection to work? pptpconfig seems to work and is connected, but I'm unable to ping any remote computer....04:06
Jimersonsnook353 yeah true, but I still need to get this fixed so I can use the trackpad in the car or in class, or other places where using a mouse is not possible04:06
ArrenLexryanacka, try the command04:06
crimsunrapha: the release notes have same basic notes, but feel free to flesh them out04:06
ArrenLexryancka: convert -delay 20 *.png foo.gif04:06
snook353yeah.  i'm lookin forward to edgy, jimerson04:07
DrSpinJust installed Dapper... semms that the file /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant is missing04:07
raphacrimsun: as soon as I find them out :)04:07
Jimersonsnook353 is edgy suppose to fix this problem?04:07
snook353maybe someone will catch this prob, jimerson.  idk04:07
gunfushsunda3: I am at medium confort  with linux.. but not the source.. there is of course tons of stuff that I need to get more familiar..04:07
DrSpinoh... and the config files aren't there04:07
Ubuntu-neIf my X config is hosed and It's a fresh install it would faster/easier to just reinstall rather than try to fix my xconf. I'm a Linux noob and can't vi my way out of a sack.04:07
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Jimersonsnook353 if I ever figure it out I'll let you know04:07
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DrSpinanyone know where I can get a package that properly installs?04:07
snook353ok, thanks jimerson04:07
ArrenLexUbuntu-ne: if you don't understand vi, use nano. More intuitive.04:08
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hsunda3gunfus: ok! good luck .. you could try Gentoo ... but remember, watching tons of messages scroll by your screen doesn't necessarily *teach* you anything. You can learn just about everything you want to know with Ubuntu as well...don't go by the misconception that if you install everything from source you will learn more. You can do all that from Ubuntu as well..04:08
krangdoes anyone know why my disks are getting fskd every time I boot? It's a 250GB disk, and it's getting really annoying04:08
Ubuntu-neI was going to try to fire up Lynx to research the problem but U doesn't have Lynx installed by default?? I'm up on a SLAX live CD right now.04:08
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totall_6_7Ubuntu-ne: use nano or gedit they are easer to use than vi04:08
snook353well, i'll wait a while to see who else has a prob with the newest epiphany....i like it better than firefox04:08
hsunda3krang: how are you shutting down the machine?04:08
kranghsunda3: with the trusty shutdown option in the GUi menu04:09
ArrenLexUbuntu-ne: if you want lynx, install it. apt-get install lynx04:09
crimsunUbuntu-ne: w3m is in the ubuntu-standard seed.04:09
ArrenLexsnook: epiphany doesn't support all the plugins I'm used to and comes with even more stupid Gnome dependencies. ;_;04:09
hsunda3krang: hmm.... normally a fsck happens every once in 30 reboots.. (or something) .. sometimes it happens if *the machine was not shutdown cleanly* ...04:09
w30totall_6_7, is nano a terminal app?04:10
snook353hmmm :(, jimerson04:10
gunfushsunda3: I am with you.. back in the days of RH, for which my server is still on RH.. I have to often install everything from source.. and it really wasn't very motivating.. specially because of the problems that I was having compiling and looking at tons of mesgs scroll through my console without much knwoledge04:10
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kranghsunda3: I know, but this is doing it every time, regardless (no messages about "30 times without check" either)04:10
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ArrenLexw30: nano is a terminal app, yes.04:10
snook353i don't like opera, and firefox Has Been unstable, jimeson04:10
Jimersonsnook353 yes?04:10
snook353jimerson, i'll see about this newest firefox04:10
totall_6_7w30: i have no clue on nano, i was just echoing what was said, I only use gedit, its simple and works04:10
Ubuntu-neThanks for the input on nano and gedit..04:10
Jimersonsnook353 ok04:10
hsunda3gunfus: lol .. the whole message scrolling will increase your geek factor in front of your friends through. The terminal always seems to carry some geek points with it ..04:11
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snook353jimerson, it Had been unstable04:11
Ubuntu-neis gedit a terminal app?04:11
suff0katehow do you make yourself owner cause i'm the only one that uses this comp and i want to have full access to read and write on files04:11
hsunda3krang: hmm... is there anything you could figure out from the output of the 'dmesg' command?04:11
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ArrenLexUbuntu-ne: gedit is a gnome notepad clone. Graphical.04:11
kranghsunda3: good suggestion, I'll go see04:11
totall_6_7Ubuntu-ne:  you can run gedit from terminal yes04:11
snook353oops, ok arrenlex04:11
Ubuntu-neAh. that's what I thought. (hense the g)04:11
sureshothey if i run windows xp in a vm would i be able to run games and such such as swat 3 and 4 ghost recon and such04:11
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hsunda3gunfus: by back in the days, do you mean RH when it was still free? Wow .. then you must have bene using linux for long indeed...04:11
ArrenLexsuff0kate: that's exactly what Linux is designed NOT to let you do. If you need root access temporarily, prefix the command with sudo.04:11
Dr_willissureshot,  not very well.04:11
TonrenHey guys, why are my images in Firefox garbled?  How do I fix it?04:12
hsunda3sureshot: not sure.. guess you need lots of memory for that.. and still not very smoothly. VM I don't think is meant for gaming, atleast not yet.04:12
gunfushsunda3: yeah.. it increases my geek factor.. If i know what it reads.. otherwise.. when they ask me I will totally be such a dumb-head (for being politicly correct)04:12
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hsunda3gunfus lol..04:12
bruenigTonren, are you sure they are just resizing them, if so you can click on them to see them fully sized04:12
tonyyarussoHow to define mount options for drives that are managed through hal?  For instance, I would like to have all USB flash drives mount with the sync option rather than the default of async, but of course such devices do not exist in fstab.04:12
gunfushsunda3: yep.. back in the days when it was free.. I started with RH5.2 and I was enthusiastic.. but I nevere really understood much of the code04:13
sureshotthanks all dont have cedega on disability not money to buy it and i want to cut up my xp cd and send it back to ms as a statement04:13
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Tonrenbruenig: Oh, they're certainly quite garbled.  Chunks of the image have been moved around, the coloration is off... all sorts of horrible things are happening to my poor images.04:13
Tonrenbruenig: And it happens on every website!04:13
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hsunda3gunfus: indeed..it's never too late to learn !04:13
ThePirateMonk3ydoes anyone know about support on ubuntu for creative media players?04:13
gunfushsunda3: Now.. things are getting a lot better since I have 5 years of coding experience not particulary in C but in java.. C i did it for a year last year04:13
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ArrenLexHi Jesus!04:14
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man_id_unknownHow common is WxWidgets?04:14
BankHeaddon't know04:14
dtrumpI'll soon find out04:14
Ubuntu-neWell thanks for the help. I'm going to switch over to the DD live cd and see about reinstalling. I'll be back.04:14
hsunda3man_id_unknown: there are some good apps written with wx. I think Audacity is one.04:14
crimsunman_id_unknown: quite common.04:14
gunfushsunda3: I remenber one day I was able to turn my fan on or off on my laptop.. that defently put me high in the geek factor in front of my friends..04:14
kranghsunda3: Nope, no mention. it probes the IDE interfaces and recognises filesystems, but that's it04:15
man_id_unknowncrimsun: is it common enough to create a program with it without worry?04:15
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gunfushsunda3: the only thing though.. is that I did leave linux alone for a long time.. since about RH6 to one year ago..04:15
crimsunman_id_unknown: yes04:15
man_id_unknownhsunda3: is it common enough to create a program with it without worry?04:15
gunfushsunda3: so i was away for a few years..04:15
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viatorremove firefox04:15
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man_id_unknowncrimsun: thank you. I appreceate that.04:15
regionalpI am installing ubuntu on my laptop, which has an 80 gig hard drive04:15
regionalp          with 11 gigs free.  I want to keep the other stuff on there.  I04:15
regionalp          can't decide in the ubuntu installation whether to select this04:15
regionalp          option: "Resize SCSI1 (o, o, o), partition #2 (sda) and use the04:15
regionalp          freed space" or this option: "use the largest continuous free04:15
regionalp          space."  Can someone please explain what these options mean? I don't04:15
regionalp          want to fuck things up.04:15
hsunda3man_id_unknown: yes why not ...04:15
knixtechplease help - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25623/04:15
sureshotwould anyone know ware i could get my hands on cedega04:15
ArrenLexman_id: if your program is going to be in a package, then the dependencies are resolved automatically.04:15
crimsunvlc is another well known program that uses WxW04:15
hsunda3krang: hmmm... I am lost now ... sorry ..04:15
gunfusubotu: tell regionalp about pastebin04:15
hsunda3man_id_unknown: of course! VLC ..04:15
ArrenLex!pastebin > regionalp04:15
man_id_unknownhsunda3: I don't have a reason. I just truly didn't know.04:16
snook353i've been thinkin abou trying kunbuntu dapper.  would that be a good choice?04:16
man_id_unknownhsunda3: What is VLC, Sir?04:16
w30totall_6_7, for command line I like pico that comes with pine mail04:16
Ubuntu-neIf anyone wants to get a chuckle at watching a noob (that would be me) knock his head around Ubuntu I'll be blogging about it. (www.friedgeek.com) Thanks again.04:16
knixtechsureshot, buy it?04:16
DrSpincould someone help me get WPA working on Dapper?? It seems the package for wpasupplicant is horribly broken (no init script, no config files)04:16
viatorsudo apt-get --purge remove firefox04:16
hsunda3man_id_unknown: VLC is a popular media player on Linux/Windows/Mac ... open source, plays all kinds of files ...04:16
Ash-FoxHow would one extract a bunch of zip files in a directory? unzip -d *.zip ?04:16
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kranghsunda3: No trouble. Thanks anyway!04:16
knixtechDrSpin, network-manager04:16
gunfushsunda3: anyways.. thanks for the website.. I will look into it.. maybe one day I will be more useful like you :D04:16
viatorand reinstall it see if that remedies it04:16
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ArrenLexMention me, Ubuntu-ne! ;)04:16
WhiteNoiseregionalp, if you don't mind an 11gig ubuntu install, why not 'user the largest .. free space'?04:17
Ubuntu-neWill do ArrenLex.04:17
sureshotknixtech gee i wish i had thought of that04:17
DrSpinknixtech: UH ??04:17
hsunda3gunfus: I just happen to know it, becuase I am taking an operating systems class in university .. best wishes anyway!04:17
man_id_unknownhsunda3: Thank you. This really helps a lot. I need a easy-to-use yet popular gui. I think this is the one. ;) Thanks, SIr.04:17
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AstrayIs it possible to change the hide/unhide speed of the gnome panels?04:17
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malvwhen is Edgy due?04:17
viatormake SURE the is no .mozilla folder04:17
viatorin your home dir04:17
knixtechDrSpin, install network-manager04:17
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viatordelete it04:17
knixtechDrSpin, and WPA will work just fine04:17
ArrenLexknixtech: where is this package from? It's newer than your system.04:17
avagantWow, this fluxbox is like BAM BAM04:18
GigaClonI have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.304:18
GigaClongcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory04:18
sureshotsureshot is on disability and fixed income and money for things like that is not avaliable04:18
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knixtechArrenLex, I got it on the site, and if i do a apt-get same thing04:18
knixtechsureshot, search google04:18
DrSpinknixtech: are you sure you're not thinking WEP -- because that works fine04:18
knixtechDrSpin, no, WPA,  i am using it to talk to you ;)04:19
alex_ubuntuI have a printer on a print server, anyone know how to configure it... I had it working in RH8 with parport and lpd but can't figure it out on dapper04:19
micahcowanknixtech, kudos for using electricsheep ^_^ ...btw, afaik it doesn't work well with gnome-screensaver (I'm using xscreensaver)04:19
micahcowanOddly, I haven't encountered the trouble you seem to be having, either on dapper or edgy :/04:19
TonrenHey guys, why are my images in Firefox garbled?  How do I fix it?04:19
alex_ubuntuthe driver is loaded I just need to re-direct it properly04:19
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DrSpinknixtech: it installs by default it seems... still no wpa...04:19
viatori have wpa on too04:19
knixtechDrSpin, gnome or KDE?04:20
DrSpinhow did you configure it??04:20
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DrSpinGNOME, XFCE04:20
viatordud its simple in the gui04:20
DrSpinbeen screwing with wpasupplicant for a couple horus now and still nothing04:20
knixtechDrSpin, do you have network-manager-gnome installed?04:20
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viatorin network manager04:20
DrSpinno -- it won't find any interfaces04:20
Max_-xmule or amule?04:20
bur[n] erDrSpin: it will if you comment out /etc/network/interfaces file04:21
viatoryeah go to ect/network/interfaces04:21
suff0katehow do you grant read and write access to /ect/privoxy/config  ??04:21
knixtechmicahcowan, ty for the kudos04:21
viatorand comment everything out04:21
DrSpinor rename ??04:21
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ferossDrSpin: goto  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com  little wpa howto04:21
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micahcowanknixtech, where did you get the electricsheep .deb you're trying to install?04:22
viatorcomment out you know put # signs infornt of04:22
kintaro0ehi guys.how to disable the root account?04:22
w30alex_ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu04:22
knixtechmicahcowan, i got it from the electricsheep.org04:22
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knixtechmicahcowan, latest for debian04:23
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micahcowankintaro0e, by default, it's disabled for login. If you've enabled it, you can delete root's password. Is that what you mean, or do you mean something else?04:23
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micahcowanknixtech, do you currently have it installed via the ubuntu repositories, or not installed at all? I'd recommend that you use the Ubuntu-specific .deb, if you don't.04:23
adamHelp I can't install a package! log file details here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25624/04:23
knixtechmicahcowan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/04:24
alex_ubuntuw30, been ther tried that different config04:24
AstrayDoes anyone know if it's possible to assig na different wallpaper per workspace?04:24
ArrenLexadam: why are you trying to install this package?04:24
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alex_ubuntuthis is not a linux print server it is a router with a parallel port print server built in04:24
adamto get MTP working w/ my mp3 player04:24
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regionalpI am installing ubuntu on my laptop, which has an 80 gig hard drive with 11 gigs free.  I want to keep the other stuff on there.  I can't decide in the ubuntu installation whether to select this option: "Resize SCSI1 (o, o, o), partition #2 (sda) and use the freed space" or this option: "use the largest continuous free space."  Can someone please explain what these options mean? I don't want to fuck things up.04:24
ArrenLexadam: does it provide a somehow better version of the libntp package you already have installed?04:25
sg2how do i install divx codecs?04:25
ArrenLexlibnjb5? **04:25
knixtechsg2, easyubuntu04:25
bm0nkCan someone do me a favour and type    modprobe firmware_class   and tell me if it says   FATAL: Module firmware_class not found   ? :S04:25
ArrenLex!codecs > sg204:25
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:25
viatorget a real printserver04:25
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knixtech!easyubuntu > sg204:26
ArrenLex$ modprobe firmware_class04:26
ArrenLexFATAL: Module firmware_class not found.04:26
viatoror a real networked printer04:26
knixtechmicahcowan, and yes , all the repos are enabled04:26
bm0nkArrenLex : thanks04:26
ferossregionalp: you can do costum partition and do it yourself04:26
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adam??? like a more recent version is installed?04:26
alex_ubuntuI have a dapper server up but haven'y figured it out yet..04:26
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micahcowanadam, it looks like it's probably safe for you to force overwriting. Try running the dpkg again with --force-conflicts?04:27
kintaro0emicahcowan: hi i remember my friend told me using the passwd or sudo something that will disable the root account04:27
ferossregionalp: when the installer talks about use continuous free space, are you sure it's talking about the 11GB you can use?04:27
Mat_666Hello...   I have a problem with external SATA disks...   they won't shutdown properly and I need to fsck them at reboot....   tried to script a sync+umount in a custom etc/rc1.d/K88 script, but it won't help....  any ideas ?04:27
adamok i'll try04:27
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micahcowankintaro0e, the root account is disabled by default on Ubuntu. Have you done anything to enable it/do you have a root password?04:28
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micahcowanknixtech, hm.... which version of Ubuntu are you running?04:28
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regionalpfeross: no, I have no idea what is going on.  I have 1 partition presently, 80 GB NTFS windows hard drive.  11 gb is empty on this partion.  I want to install ubuntu on this 11 gb. How do I achieve this?04:28
knixtechmicahcowan, dapper04:29
kintaro0emicahcowan: yes.i enable it..but now i remember its just like this: sudo passwd -l root04:29
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ferossMat_666: external SATA disks? are they hooked up via USB or are they just SATA disks but they're hanging out of your box? ;}04:29
iCodHere's my problem, on startup loading hardware drivers and something else right before it fails, reducing startup time to about 5-10 ten minutes because it hangs before it says failed. Would anyone have clue of what's going on?04:29
Mat_666eSATA disks04:29
adammicahcowan did u try that right? cause when I try to put "sudo checkinstall --force-conflicts" (without quotes) in the terminal it says it's an unrecognized option04:29
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micahcowankintaro0e, yes, that sounds like just what you want.04:29
kintaro0emicahcowan: yeah..thanks04:29
ArrenLexadam: Why are you checkinstalling? You already have a .deb backage.04:29
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Mat_666it's a SATA card with eSATA connectors.  the eSATA connector goes into a eSATA enclosure, which has a regular SATA connection inside.04:30
ubotuelectricsheep: screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2669 kB, installed size 3376 kB04:30
ferossregionalp: ohh, you should resize the NTFS partition.04:30
ArrenLexadam: could you please paste the output of dpkg -l libnjb5 | grep ii04:30
knixtechviator, woot,  now can you fix it for me?04:30
knixtechviator, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/04:30
regionalpfeross: how? In windows? may I do that in the ubuntu installer?04:31
adamii  libnjb5        2.2.4-3ubuntu3 Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox library04:31
ferossregionalp: hmm, never had to do it with the installer but I think you can.04:31
micahcowanadam, yes: the option I gave you was for dpkg. Hm... I wouldn't recommend overwriting something installed by a .deb with something from checkinstall... I think you probably don't want to install from source. You may be wanting to install libnjb-dev (note the -dev) instead.04:31
ArrenLexadam: you seem to be upgrading. If you're using checkinstall to build from source, specify the "name" to be libnjb5 to do it cleanly and avoid all these problems.04:31
ferossregionalp: I've done it with qtparted.04:31
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ArrenLexadam: and make sure you specify version to be 2.2.504:32
ninwaAnybody here familiar with setting up ATI drivers for the Radeon 9800 Pro on Edgy?04:32
ArrenLexninwa: are you having problems?04:32
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w30feross, does a ntfs partiton need to be defragged?04:32
viatorremove it and try reinstalling it for sh#$% and giggles04:32
ferossw30: yes04:32
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ninwaArrenLex, yes. My xorg.conf looks right, and I downloaded and installed the packages, but fglrxinfo doesn't show it as being ATI drivers.04:33
knixtech!electricsheep > knixtech04:33
micahcowanknixtech, I'm afraid I've never seen errors from apt like that (for those reading along: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/). I'm not sure how to get around that.  Wait, are you sure it didn't install? After the QT errors (which seem quite odd coming from apt-get), it appears to continue installing...04:33
ninwaAt this point I'd go for any advice :)04:33
ArrenLexninwa: downloaded and installed what packages?04:33
ninwaI had it working on dapper, it was painless04:33
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ninwaArren, one second, I did a lot of stuff out of desperation at one point, haha. Let me bring up the guide I used.04:34
knixtechmicahcowan, well it does install, because it shows up in ss,  but doesnt run04:34
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ArrenLexknixtech: I don't think those errors are from apt. Have you, by any chance, launched a program with an & switch earlier in this terminal session?04:34
suff0katehow am i supposed to edit the damn config.txt when i can't even save it04:34
knixtechArrenLex, nope04:34
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suff0kateand when i try using the access stuff it doesn't work04:34
GigaClongcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory04:34
jribubotu: tell suff0kate about sudo04:34
GigaClonI have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.304:34
micahcowanknixtech, doesn't run? Are you using gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver? What happens when you try to run it?04:34
jribsuff0kate: by "access stuff" you mean sudo?04:34
ferossregionalp: so what are you doing?04:34
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ArrenLexWhat happen? Somebody set up us the bomb?04:35
AbstThats cool04:35
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suff0kateno i want to add a line to the config but it won't let me04:35
jribsuff0kate: what config?04:35
w30ooooooooooohh, the twilight zone04:35
AlReece45that was a lot of people getting off at once...04:35
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knixtechmicahcowan, how do i know which one i am using?04:35
adamhere's what I got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25626/04:35
SinnerGsplit :p04:35
jribsuff0kate: use sudo, like so:    sudo nano /etc/foo04:35
ninwaArrenLex: I followed Method 2 - http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide04:35
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kitcheAlReece45: it was a net split04:36
AbstWhats a net split04:36
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Mat_666I have a problem with external eSATA disks...   they won't shutdown properly and I need to fsck them at reboot....   tried to script a sync+umount in a custom etc/rc1.d/K88 script, but it won't help.... I'm sure this script is ran because I created small text file in it to verify it is run.  I put the script at K88 because I want it to be ran last, juste before the syslogd shutdown (these are data partitions, not system ones...  however I have a virtual ma04:36
ArrenLexadam: no. Run the command "checkinstall". Then when it brings up that screen when it shows you the values, press 2 and enter. Type libnjb5. Press enter.04:36
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knixtechmicahcowan, if i run "electricsheep" in shell, it comes up and plays the sheep, but if i set it to ss, it does nothing04:36
iCodHere's my problem, on startup loading hardware drivers and something else right before it fails, reducing startup time to about 5-10 ten minutes because it hangs before it says failed. Would anyone have clue of what's going on?04:36
micahcowanknixtech, if you haven't changed anything, you're using gnome-screensaver. Do you simply get a black screen when you're running it? (BTW, have you used electricsheep before?)04:36
ninwaArren, let me retry a few things first, actually. I believe I might have missed a step.04:36
knixtechmicahcowan, yes a black screen04:36
knixtechmicahcowan, i use it on windows, so yes i know how it works04:37
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adamok. now enter to continue?04:37
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knixtechack i said windows04:37
ichabodI'm running an intel 865G graphics card, but when I try to run Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, I hear sound, but see nothing.04:37
ArrenLexninwa: are you certain that your card won't be supported by the driver installed via method 1?04:37
micahcowanknixtech, unfortunately, I haven't gotten it running on gnome-screensaver recently. I had to install xscreensaver (apt-get install xscreensaver), which mostly replaces gnome-screensaver.04:37
knixtechgreat, ill try that04:38
ArrenLexadam: yes, if "name" is libnjb5 and "version" is 2.2.5, press enter.04:38
ninwaArren, no I'm not. Do you suggest I retrace the steps in method 1?04:38
ArrenLexninwa: I strongly suggest you use the default ubuntu packages if at all possible.04:38
ichabodI figure it's a driver problem, but I haven't a clue; I'm new to linux, and am running dapper drake.04:38
ArrenLexninwa: much less... messing.04:38
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knixtechmicahcowan, how do i use the xscreensaver?04:39
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nrdbI am looking into video capture, if a card uses the bttv module does that mean it uses software compression ?04:39
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adami still got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25628/04:39
viatorsamewa uou use gnome-screensaver04:39
micahcowanknixtech, I should warn you that the screensaver config doesn't seem to be in System -> Preferences for xscreensaver, though. You may need to manually run xscreensaver-demo. And, you'll probably need to log out/log in for xscreensaver to come up with your gnome session.04:39
ArrenLexadam: view the log. Tell me what it says.04:39
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knixtechmicahcowan, ty04:40
tarmathsorry newbie question here lads... Ive always wondered how I could see why a package is being installed when I request another package... like what is the dependency tree... is there any application that can tell me that?04:40
adamo wait easy to fix. log says operation requires superuser privilege. I just use sudo right?04:40
ferossichabod: not sure exactly but I would run the game in 'safe' mode and change the video setting to the lowest at first and then try it. Then notch it up little by little until you get best resolution without fudging things up.04:40
ichabodokay... how do I run in safe mode? I'm a complete noob.04:40
kitchetarmath: you could go to the software website that your install it says the dependencies on there04:40
ArrenLexadam: I strongly suggest you run the command from scratch as "sudo checkinstall" rather than just installing the generated package with sudo.04:40
ferossichabod: I'm not familiar with the game but you can probably find it on the game website or google.. G Knows ALL.04:41
motinUpdated: http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToComfortablySwitchFromWindowsToUbuntu  I appreciate feedback and impromptu corrections (the wiki is open for everyone)04:41
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ArrenLexfeross: if you run the command "glxgears", do you see it?04:41
ichabodI searched google for a couple days (!!!) but to no avail.04:41
tarmathkitche: well the dependencies im wondering about dont seem to be directly needed by the application I want to install...04:41
nrdbichabod: there are ordinary users (default) and then root access (must be admin and give password) that can do anything.04:41
ferossArrenLex: yes I see it but it runs SLOOOOWWW for me because I have a SiS card in my lappy.04:42
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ichabodSo if I want to run in safe mode, I have to have root access?04:42
kitchetarmath they probably are just that they are needed for the other things to work in that app04:42
ArrenLexfeross -> ichabod for glxgears, sorry04:42
deckoHi guys!!! There some way to install Ubuntu in a LVM Volume???04:42
tarmathkitche: yes, but I want to know which one...04:42
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ichabodglxgears? Yes, I see them.04:43
ArrenLexdecko: check out the alternate install.04:43
ferossArrenLex: oh ok, was going to say no 3D support for SiS ... Lesson learned, always buy lappys with Nvidia04:43
adamhere's the instructions I found on the ubuntu forums to get my mp3 player working on ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250 does this help? I ran into the original problem at step 12 under manual instructions04:43
ArrenLexNvidia owns all.04:43
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ichabodI have crappy intel 'extreme' graphics 2. Ugh.04:43
ferossichabod: no, it all depends on the game04:43
ichabodokay, so how do I run it in safe mode?04:43
ArrenLexadam: no problem. There is no issue. Just run "sudo checkinstall" right now.04:43
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bur[n] erintel extreme works with beryl for me :)  I like it04:43
ArrenLexichabod: do you get 3D acceleration?04:43
ichabodI don't know. How do I tell?04:44
kitchebur[n] er aiglx?04:44
jmerlinwhat is the command to display the gnome "Run Application" dialog?04:44
bur[n] erkitche: si04:44
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deckoArrenLex: What is this??? a new system??? Or can I do this with the liveCD???04:44
ArrenLexichabod: if you do, be happy with the card -- Intel is the only open-source 3D driver. :)04:44
ferossichabod: go to google.com type in. wolfinstein safe mode ... then hit enter.. look through articles04:44
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bur[n] erjmerlin: Alt+F204:44
nrdbichabod: an ordinary user can't modify the most of the setup files for linux so is 'safe', the root/admin user can change anything so is 'unsafe'04:44
jmerlinnot alt+f204:44
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bruenigbur[n] er, that is not a command04:44
suff0katehow do you save in gnu nano?04:44
jmerlinthe actual terminal command04:44
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ichabodoh... okay! Thanks. I'll be back in a bit. I'm running it in safe mode, then, I guess.04:44
jmerlini need to add it to my menu via alacarte04:44
bur[n] erjmerlin: isn't it part of metacity?04:44
jmerlinand you can't add alt+f2 as a command04:44
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ArrenLexsuffokate: ctrl + x, y, s04:45
jimersonhow do I change permissions on a file that is read/write for the owner?04:45
ArrenLexsorry, ctrl+x, y, enter04:45
nickv111How would one go about installing cryptsetup on Dapper Drake?04:45
bur[n] erjmerlin: it's not part of metacity... it works in beryl too :\04:45
nrdbichabod: I presume you have a ubuntu setup?04:45
nickv111apt-cache search cryptsetup doesn't turn it up04:45
ichabodYes, I do.04:45
jmerlinwhat is the command then -_-04:45
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tarmathjmerlin: have you tried alt-f2 and then look at the process list?04:45
jmerlinhow do you check the plist?04:45
nickv111Maybe it's in a different repository?04:45
adami still get errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25630/04:45
tarmathjmerlin:  ps aux in a terminal04:45
bur[n] erjmerlin: got me ;)04:45
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jmerlinjimerson: chown to change the owner or chmod to add the flags04:46
ArrenLexadam: yes you are getting errors, because you're not changing the name to libnjb5 like I told you to.04:46
jmerlinjimerson: you might need to use sudo if it's owned by root04:46
tarmathjmerlin: do it before and after... while the window is showing04:46
kitchejmerlin you can pas aux or top04:46
jurehello i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner the auto.log file. someone help me ? (sorry for english)04:46
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nrdbichabod: if you put 'nrdb:' your message will be highlighted for me.  when you installed ubuntu you where asked for a user name, are you loged in with that name now?04:46
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ichabodnrdb: yes, I am logged into that name.04:47
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jimersonjmerlin thanks04:47
nrdbichabod: ok, this user has admin ability, open a terminal, and I will demonstate for you (nothing important will be changed).04:48
tarmathsorry newbie question here lads... Ive always wondered how I could see why a package is being installed when I request another package... like what is the dependency tree... is there any application that can tell me that?04:48
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ichabodnrdb: It always just asks for a password whenever I want to do something adminish.04:48
ArrenLextarmath: do you mean, which file does it need?04:48
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nrdbichabod: yes.04:49
jimersonjmerlin what command follows sudo in order to open the file?04:49
kitcheArrenLex he means what software that is needed to make that app run like its's suppose to04:49
lufisTough question, but can anyone just give me the quick and dirty of what's the best filesystem?04:49
jurehello i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. someone help me ?04:49
ichabodnrdb: But what happens is that when I run Enemy Territory in console, I get a black screen, but I can hear the music.04:49
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segfaulttarmath, man apt-get also apt-cach show pkg-name will show u details including dependencies of pkg04:49
nrdbichabod: I don't know what 'Enemy Territory' is04:50
nickv111Nevermind. My /etc/apt/sources.list was fubar04:50
ichabodnrdb: oh... lol it's a WWII fps04:50
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tarmathsegfault: ive already looked into those, what I want is the dependency tree, not only the direct dependencies... have I overlooked something?04:50
nrdbichabod: a game?04:50
ichabodnrdb: yes04:50
dailamaAnyone here to help?04:50
dailamaI have a question if so?04:50
segfaultlufis, opinions vary, i like reiser for desktop04:50
nickv111dailama: Please do not ask to ask04:50
nickv111dailama: Just ask.04:50
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:51
jmerlinjimerson: open it how?04:51
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dailamanickv111, how do i start something from within a terminal window04:51
nrdbichabod: does it start with a intro clip?04:51
jmerlinhow do i close a process with ps?04:51
ichabodnrdb: yes04:51
jurei deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?04:51
tarmathArrenLex: in fact im trying to figure out why installing some php web app makes the system want to install perl04:51
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dailamanickv111, and not lose the terminal window04:51
segfaultjmerlin, u dont use kill04:51
nickv111dailama: Just type the program name.04:51
lufissegfault: Well, I've been trying to figure out which one :P So many to choose from... and I refuse to use ext3 just because it's default ;)04:51
nickv111dailama: What program are you trying to start, for example?04:51
adamok thanks that part worked, but now on a different part of those instructions it says No package 'glib-2.0' found, No package 'gthread-2.0' found, and No package 'gtk+-2.0' found. how can i quickly get these packages?04:51
ichabodnrdb: but when I press space bar, which skips the clip, it's still black. And I don't know how to quit it after that either.04:51
ArrenLextarmath: ah. Yes, I've wondered that myself many times. If you find such a tool, please tell me!04:51
lufissegfault: I'm actually using resier right now...04:51
ichabodnrdb: so I have to coldboot my pc (shock)04:51
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jmerlinkill works :>04:51
jurei deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?04:52
nickv111dailama: Oh, I see what you're saying04:52
dailamafor instance i'm using tilda.....i start say...xmms from the terminal window04:52
ArrenLexadam: apt-cache search for those packages.04:52
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dailamai lose the terminal04:52
dailamauntil i close xmms04:52
nex_can anyone help me out with the alien command?04:52
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nex_i need to install maya04:52
segfaultlufis, i recommend reiser, ive used it for many years without any issue, it is quite fast and stable, and chks after an improper shutdown are faster than with ext2 or 304:52
nickv111dailama: You want to run a program, but you don't want to lose control of the terminal04:52
nrdbichabod: don't know what going on here, if you try and shut down the console, what happens ?04:52
ArrenLexdailama: instead of "xmms", type "xmms &"04:52
nex_but they are .rpm;s04:52
dailamanickv111, exactly04:52
nickv111dailama: Run it in the background by using an ampersand04:52
bur[n] erdailama: type "xmms &"04:52
jimersonjmerlin: I am trying to change the permissions of a file.. how do I open it under root?04:52
nickv111dailama: Like, "xmms &"04:52
tarmathArrenLex: cant possibly believe there wouldnt be one... but Im running out of places to look it up...04:52
bur[n] erdoh ;)04:52
ichabodnrbd: well, I don't know how to shut down the console. Kind of embarassing.04:52
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lufissegfault: Great, thank you :)04:53
ichabodnrdb: it's just a black screen, I can't exit at all.04:53
segfaultlufis, np04:53
wickedpuppy& will put the program in background04:53
nickv111dailama: Basically, that just runs it in the background04:53
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jurei deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?04:53
jurei deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?04:53
nickv111dailama: "fg" will put it back into the foreground04:53
nrdbichabod: does the whole screen go black?04:53
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:53
nickv111dailama: Suspend and then "bg" will put it into the background again.04:53
nex_how do i use the "Alien" command to change the name of a file?04:53
ichabodnrdb: yup.04:53
ArrenLexnex: what do you mean, "change the name of a file"?04:53
lufisjure: Can you rephrase your question?04:53
dailamanickv111, so does that mean if I close the terminal out the program then dies as well04:53
kitchenex_: alien is used to convert packages04:54
wickedpuppynex_, alien doesn't change the name of the file ... mv does04:54
ichabodnrdb: it's a full screen program... maddeningly so.04:54
dailamain front or back?/04:54
nex_i need to convert the package04:54
jmerlinjimerson, you don't open it under root to change the permissions04:54
nickv111dailama: You need to type "^D"04:54
ArrenLexdailama: yes, the program will still die if you close the term. However, the term will be useable for other commands.04:54
nex_from .rpm to .deb04:54
lufisnex_: sudo apt-get install alien04:54
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nickv111dailama: Like, you need to exit the shell before you close the terminal for it to close without killing your process04:54
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segfaulttarmath, dependency tree, hmm, i dont off such a tool (and havent needed one since i stopped using gentoo), ive always been able to find all the info i need from apt-get04:54
ferossjure: yeah, you don't make any sense. What auto.log? where is it located? why did you delete it? why do you want it back? what does the owner have to do with anything?04:54
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nickv111dailama: "^D" (ctrl-D) will exit your shell, leaving your running processes intact04:54
ArrenLexnex: sudo alien "package.rpm"04:54
jmerlinjimerson, you'll use chown to change the user or chmod to change the permissions04:54
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nex_without "" i suppose?04:55
nrdbichabod: ok.  now for a Linux trick, if you hold down <ctrl> <alt> keys and press <f1> ... <f7> you get different screen <f7> is the gui.  give it a try now.04:55
segfaulttarmath, err that should read i dont know of ....04:55
jimersonjmerlin: ok I will try that thanks04:55
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ArrenLexnex: without.04:55
pooruhow do i go about mounting a secondary slave hd?04:55
jmerlindammit what's the command to launch the run command -_-.. i did the ps list by pid and it doesn't show up04:55
jmerlinat all04:55
nickv111It's got to be hard to be someone who speaks a language other than English in an English-centered technical world04:55
ichabodnrdb: cool! so those are like terminals w/o the gui, right?04:55
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nex_and that should change the "package" from .rpm to .deb?04:55
nickv111Not that the world is English-centered. Just the technical world, it seems.04:55
jmerlinran it without, started the run dialog, ran it again04:55
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jmerlinand it doesn't come up..04:55
pooruwhen i go to computer it shows up as "Local Slave"04:56
nrdbichabod: yes, you can allways kill a program from them.04:56
dailamanickv111, ctrl-d exits shell...program can run in foreground or background...ampersands free up the terminal when starting apps from the command line....anything else i miss?04:56
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ichabodnrdb: is there a specific command for killing a program?04:56
kitchejmerlin: you did that in a terminal?04:56
adamhow? sry i'm new to linux....i'm learning tho!04:56
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ArrenLexichabod: terminals are without the GUI by definition. The GUI terminals are terminal EMULATORS. :P They're a GUI frontend to mimic not having a GUI. Does that make sense?04:56
poorubut if i double-click on that it says "Unable to mount" b/c /dev/hdb1 is not removable04:56
GigaCloncan some one help me with this04:56
GigaClonI have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.304:56
GigaClongcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory04:56
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ArrenLexichabod: killall <program>04:56
jmerlinyes kitche04:56
GigaClonbut I have installed gcc 3.3 thru synaptic04:56
ichabodArrenLex: yes, that makes perfect sense.04:56
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jurelufis : which user is owner /var/log/auth.log file? i deleted this file. and created again. and now owner is root. what can i do. thanks (:04:57
nickv111dailama: Nope.04:57
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nrdbichabod: yes 'kill' the trick is you need to know the number of the process you want to kill, have you that console open04:57
ferosspooru: first you need to partition it and format it. then make a directory to mount it to like /mnt/spare ... Then use the mount command to mount.04:57
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ArrenLexjure: to change the owner, type "sudo chown <username> /var/log/auth.log" where <username> is whoever you want to own it.04:57
tarmathsegfault: i used to be on gentoo before too, and im missing that kinda app, Ill see if Ive read past something good for me in the apt-get manual again then...04:57
kitcheGigaClon: install build-essential04:57
GigaCloni have04:57
ichabodnrdb: no I don't have it open now... I wasn't sure how to close it again, and I thought I'd jump on here for some help.04:57
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jmerlinthe nearest i can find is gksuexec04:58
jmerlinwhich lets you run a program as a user04:58
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poorufeross, it already has data on it. it's formatted NTFS from my previous XP install04:58
jureArrenLex thanks04:58
CaptainMorganwhat's a good emulator(?) for playing games in ubuntu that run in Win? Im not thinking anything 3-D or intense.. just simple online poker04:58
poorui'm trying to get the data off of it04:58
rixthBHSPitLappy, yo around?04:58
kitcheCaptainMorgan: wine04:58
bignosehi. i just booted off the livecd, and network manager does not have WPA options for my wireless card, only WEP. what's the deal ?04:58
bur[n] erCaptainMorgan: wine04:58
segfaulttarmath, :) i find i care less about the extra libs etc that get installed when i dont have to compile them, i just install what i need04:58
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ArrenLexCaptainMorgan: online poker? Like, In a browser?04:58
CaptainMorganArrenLex, nah04:58
nrdbichabod: not the game, a console you can type commands in see "Applications->Accesories->Terminal"04:58
bur[n] erCaptainMorgan: get official wine repositories to get the latest version04:59
ArrenLexCaptain: wine04:59
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CaptainMorganwine seems to be the official word on it, thanks ;)04:59
ichabodnrdb: okay, I have a terminal open, is that what you mean?04:59
ferosspooru: if you do a df -h do you see it mounted anywhere?04:59
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GigaClonthere is a weird compling bug with 3.4 and up so I need to use 3.3 i have all the build essentials and what not04:59
Kenny_72454ello ello04:59
poorufeross: nope04:59
nrdbichabod: yes, now try the command 'ps -A'04:59
adamarrenlex, i'm new to linux and don't get how to use apt-cache to get and install those 3 packages04:59
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poorufeross: only thing mounted (as far as HD's) is /dev/hda105:00
tarmathsegfault: right, I generally dont care either, but I dont like perl at all, and when I saw it wanted to install it, I just couldnt do for it without knowing why... at any rate, thanks for your help05:00
bruenigadam, open up a terminal, applications>accessories>terminal05:00
segfaultadam, apt-get to install pkgs05:00
ArrenLexadam: "apt-cache search" just searches through the repositories for whatever string you specify.05:00
ichabodnrdb: I get PID TTY TIME CMD and 7200 pts/1 00:00:00 ps05:00
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jmerlinsomeone here must know -_-05:00
bruenigsearches the cache you already have05:00
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ArrenLexadam: so if you want a package called bobfred, you would "apt-cache search bobfred" and it would list all the packages with bobfred in name or description.05:00
kitchejmerlin: try top05:00
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ichabodnrdb: just saw the capital A... kk05:00
ArrenLexadam: so when you find the package you want, you "apt-get install <package>" it.05:00
GigaClonany help05:01
PorkkroPDoes XGL work with ATI under ubuntu?05:01
poorufeross: it also says "could not execute pmount" in the File Browser errors05:01
ArrenLexadam: remind me why you're compiling a library you already have again?05:01
ferosspooru: ok hold a sec, there's a site with good instructions.05:01
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segfaulttarmath, np05:01
ArrenLexjmerlin: do you mean run like you get in windows when you click start-run? Or something else?05:01
bruenigadam, do sudo apt-get install package, make sure you use sudo05:01
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ArrenLexYes, adam, sudo when you need to do administrative things like installing things.05:02
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rylasasinwhat is the channel again for XGL?05:02
NetslayerI installed edgy, tried "suspend" to power off, it failed and ever since when i restart it hangs for 4 minutes.. please help me fix this "[52]  jumps to [245]  Attempting manual resume  than it goes on to mounting root05:02
rylasasinubuntu xgl that is05:02
ferosspooru:  here it is ... http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=58505:02
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:03
GigaClonanother question how do I get a configure script to generate makefiles that use gcc 3.3?05:03
poorufeross: thanks, i'll go check it out now05:03
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bruenigrylasasin, #ubuntu-xgl05:03
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nrdbichabod: that is a list of every process on your computer, when you want to kill a program you need its number (first column), to limit what you see we can use the 'grep' command to only show some of the list.   try (ps -A | grep 'screen'), you sould only see one line now.05:03
CorpseFeederIs this page not quite right? http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Quake-HOWTO-3.html - It says in the instructions for installing the demo to do "mv Install/Data/baseq2 ." but that just generates a cannot overwrite directory error.05:03
adamkk bruenig, arrenlex, it didn't work when I ran the script they provided on the forum post, so i'm following the manual install instructions. here's the thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19925005:03
ArrenLexGigaClon: ./configure -CC=gcc-3.3 typically. Or else make sure it's the only gcc on your system. Or else make sure /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to /usr/bin/gcc-3.305:03
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bruenigadam, what are you trying to do?05:03
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GigaClonis that for C and C++05:04
ArrenLexichabod: to kill a program just type "killall program" ; don't mess with process numbers.05:04
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ichabodnrdb: okay, cool. So to kill a specific one, you just use the PID number?05:04
nrdbArrenLex: didn't know about that one.05:04
ichabodArrenLex: okay, that makes sense.05:04
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CosmoDadI'm having problems reading PDFs in firefox... it just opens a blank page... can anyone help me (still using breezy)?05:04
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bruenigadam, that looks like fun...05:04
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bruenigCosmoDad, you are using mozilla-acroread?05:04
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CosmoDadbruenig: I've installed that, yes05:05
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ichabodnrdb: So the fact that I get a black screen... any idea there? I tried changing the screen resolution, looked into drivers (useless inquiry, I'm too noobish), and generally sat and wondered a lot.05:05
nrdbichabod: yes that one way of doing it.05:05
CosmoDadbruenig: it used to work before but some time stopped05:05
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noctiis there an app like M$ movie maker? thanks05:05
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linkzerowould anyone happen to know how to get settings on GLSlideshow.  i'm trying to tell it where to get the pics from, but there isn't a settings button05:06
CosmoDadbruenig: any idea?05:06
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bruenigCosmoDad, I hate opening pdfs in the browser, but you might try this as nontechnical and stupid as it may seem. Do sudo apt-get remove mozilla-acroread, and then remove the .adobe directory in your home folder, then reinstall05:06
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nrdbichabod: no idea on the black screen but it is handy to know how to kill without reseting the whole computer.05:06
GigaClonI used the -CXX=gcc-3.3 tag but i can't make anything with the files05:06
Netslayerhere's my pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/190553     shows my edgy system hanging for 4 minutes... ideas?05:06
ichabodnrdb: most definitely! Thanks for that... it'll save me the annoyance of rebooting.05:06
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CosmoDadbruenig: you think .adobe has to do with the FF plugin?05:06
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CorpseFeedersomething is missing from the how-to for installing quake2 demo...  "mv Install/Data/baseq2 ." gives me an error.. what is the command meant to be instead?05:07
nrdbichabod: is there a website for the game ?05:07
ArrenLexback, sorry.05:07
ichabodnrdb: it's a free thingee... there's not a whole lot of support for it.05:07
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bruenigCosmoDad, good point, I am a little messed up today...that wouldn't work anyways. Or at least it wouldn't make any sense to uninstall it05:07
ubuntuim having problems mounting a harddrive with a live cd05:08
CosmoDadbruenig: I'll try it anyway :)05:08
bruenigyou could just delete it and then relaunch it and get the same ffect as that05:08
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adamget my stupid Creative Zen Vision: M mp3 player to work on linux! I should have been smarter when i picked an mp3 player and used a UMS one, but I picked the vision: m, which uses MTP (Media Transfer Protocol, i beleive) in the support threads for my mp3 player, it says libmtp adds mtp support to linux and therefor support for my mp3 player. they didn't have much instructions in the support thread, so i searched ubuntu forums and found those ins05:08
adamtructions (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250) and am trying to follow them but keep getting errors...(I think i need a padded room all my own)05:08
CosmoDadbruenig: well, didn't work :(05:08
holycowthat looks usefull for all our friends that are trying to setup dual boot in the wrong order05:08
bur[n] eradam: i've seen reports of it working in Banshee05:08
FaithXI know I should know the answer to this but how do I set system-wide variables?05:08
Tokenbadcrossover seems like it is getting better with its new release soon05:08
ArrenLexadam: but you seem to already have that library installed.05:08
tarmathwell heck, when I go through aptitude, installing the application makes it want to install perl and lots of other stuff, but going directly with apt-get doesnt... im not using aptitude ever again...05:08
bruenigCosmoDad, well the plugin should be in /usr/lib/firefox/05:08
nrdbichabod: have you seen if there is a cannel for it here.  try '/join #<name>' etc.05:08
kitcheadam: it works with banshee I've tested it out05:08
bruenigCosmoDad, well the plugin should be in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins*05:09
kitchetarmath: aptitude follows dependencies05:09
CosmoDadbruenig: seems to be missing...05:09
ichabodnrdb: Okay, I'll do that. Thanks for helping!05:09
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CosmoDadbruenig: there's only one .so unrelated to acrobat05:09
nrdbichabod: ok no problem05:09
tarmathkitche: apt-get doesnt?05:09
CosmoDadbruenig: any idea what I need to link?05:09
nenochkatarmath, that's because aptitude automatically installs needed dependencies05:09
bruenigCosmoDad, perhaps it is in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins05:09
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boris55can I install ubuntu using xfs or jfs?05:10
kitchetarmath: apt-get will just install the program but might not run correctly05:10
adamwell i get this error when I try to start gnomad2: gnomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libmtp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:10
CosmoDadbruenig: yup, there it is: nppdf.so05:10
Netslayershould have stuck with gentoo05:10
adambut hopefully it won't matter cause hopefuly banshee will work05:10
tarmathwow no kidding?05:10
bruenighopefully it works05:10
ArrenLexkitche: that's FUD. apt-get works just as well as aptitude.05:11
bur[n] erapt-get installs dependencies05:11
CosmoDadbruenig: any further linking necessary?05:11
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bruenigArrenLex, his claim is wrong, but apt-get is not the same as aptitude05:11
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bruenigCosmoDad, launch it and see if it works05:11
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CosmoDadbruenig: I've re-launched FF already, doesn't work05:12
tarmathso whats the truth anyway? aptitude installs more packages for sure, why?05:12
epodI have an odd issue.  I apparently (According to the sound properties) have two sound devices, one is aHDA Nvidia (Alsa Mixer) and the other is SigmaTEL STAC9200 (OSS Mixer).  Both are unmuted, appear to be detected fine, and respond to my keyboard volume keys if I watch the volume bar.  Yet no sound is emitted, and in fact I only have one sound device ( a Sigmatel High Def audio Codec according to Windows)05:12
ArrenLexbruenig: no, apt-get is not the same as aptitude, but it works just as well. It's just not GUI. Different strokes...05:12
bruenigCosmoDad, hmmm, and pdfs work outside of ff?05:12
kitcheArrenLex: yes it does I m just saying if it doesn't pull down the needed dependencies then the app won't work like it's suppose to05:12
CosmoDadbruenig: yes05:12
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bruenigArrenLex, apt-get is not gui, apt-get doesn't track dependencies, aptitude does05:12
ArrenLexkitche: apt-get will get all the dependencies you need.05:12
bruenigCosmoDad, go into firefox and type about:plugins in the address bar05:13
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kitcheArrenLex: is that why tarmath says it's not pulling all the software like aptitude does?05:13
ArrenLexbruenig:define "track dependencies"05:13
ferossepod: tried alsamixer and nothing mutted?05:13
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tarmathim saying aptitude is pulling stuff I dont want/need05:13
epodfeross, yep.. nothing muted.05:13
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bruenigArrenLex, as in when you do aptitude remove, it removes all the dependencies it installed with it so that they don't float around on your disk uselessly05:13
tarmathbut apt-get definitively pulls out dependencies...05:14
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adamhow do i get banshee to recognize my mp3 player (Creative Zen vision: M)?05:14
ryanmci cant seem to mount a hard drive while running from a live cd any hints....05:14
bur[n] eradam: it just does?  /me shrugs05:14
CosmoDadbruenig: there's an Adobe 7.0 entry05:14
jester45could someone please help me with setting up my HP deskjet 712c printer05:14
HTGN-css|Silent_Hey guys. I reinstalled Windows and it killed grub. I tried reinstalling grub by chrooting to my linux partition from live, but I can't grub-install because /dev/sda dissappears after I chroot. What must I do?05:14
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bur[n] erkitche: how'd you get your zen to work with banshee?05:14
bruenigCosmoDad, well it sees it, don't know what else there is to do05:14
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ArrenLexbruenig: ah, yes, that's correct. However, what kitche was saying is that if you try to install a new program with apt-get, it won't fetch all the dependencies it needs and the program won't be runnable, which is BS and FUD.05:14
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Netslayeris there a channel for non newbs?05:15
kitchebur[n] er don't own a zen lol but I tested it you just plug it in :P05:15
bruenigArrenLex, yeah, that is why I said, he was wrong but that to say they are the same is wrong, even if they are essentially the same for his purpose05:15
bur[n] erNetslayer: if you know of one, let me know ;)05:15
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nrdbanyone here had experience with the Linux Media Labs cards?05:15
CorpseFeederis there a channel for getting quake2 to work?05:15
adamok i opened banshee and plugged in my Zen and nothing happened.05:15
bur[n] erlol05:15
ArrenLexbruenig: I never said they were the same! I said, and I quote: kitche: that's FUD. apt-get works just as well as aptitude.05:15
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bur[n] eradam: sorry man, not sure, you could check the banshee website05:16
ArrenLexburenig: Maybe I interpreted wrong, but to me, "just as well" != "in exactly the same manner as".05:16
rylasasinI need both compiz and xgl right?05:16
CosmoDadbruenig: ok thanks05:16
bruenigright, I suppose interpretation comes into play here which ultimately you have the last word on because you said it. It seemd as if you were saying the same05:16
Netslayerhow about an edgy channel?05:16
bur[n] errylasasin: beryl > compiz05:16
epodNetslayer, #ubuntu+105:16
kitcheArrenLex: wow guess you didn't read what I wrote I said it doesn't pull the dependencies when you uninstall05:16
adamremember it's a Zen Vision: M not a Nomad or other creative player. there seems to be more problems with the Vision:  M05:16
bruenigNetslayer, #ubuntu+105:16
ArrenLexbruenig: I assure you I'm perfectly aware they're different programs.05:16
bur[n] eradam: i've only used a zen sleek :\05:16
ArrenLex(21:09:43) kitche: tarmath: aptitude follows dependencies && (21:10:36) kitche: tarmath: apt-get will just install the program but might not run correctly05:17
bur[n] eradam: try the banshee site though, i swear i read something, might be in latest version05:17
ArrenLexKitche: seems to me like you were saying apt-get doesn't work. :P05:17
ArrenLexMaybe that's just, you know, ME...05:17
bruenigArrenLex, I figured you did know they were different, just that you may be dumbing stuff down for a noob, which is never good05:17
ferossHTGN-css|Silent_: what?05:18
HTGN-css|Silent_Hey guys. I reinstalled Windows and it killed grub. I tried reinstalling grub by chrooting to my linux partition from live, but I can't grub-install because /dev/sda dissappears after I chroot. What must I do?05:18
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ArrenLexbruenig: no, no, I never attempted to convey the impression that they were THE SAME, merely that if you apt-get install foobar, you will get foobar; and that if you aptitude install foobar, you will get foobar.05:18
tarmathbruenig: so the fact that aptitude makes me install more packages than apt-get means what exactly? im figuring there's either 2 possibilities: 1) apt-get doesnt grab all dependencies and programs might break when installed with it. 2) aptitude makes me install more packages than necessary...05:18
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ferossHTGN-css|Silent_: that doesn't make sense. /dev/sda dissappears? tried it without chroot?05:19
bruenigtarmath, aptitude doesn't make you install more. At least in the comparisons I have done, they are always the same. I don't usually compare though, it may be that aptitude is actually installing all suggested packages along with the necessary packages whereas apt-get only installs necessary. That is just a guess though.05:19
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HTGN-css|Silent_it says it cant access /proc/something05:20
rylasasinhow do I get beryl?05:20
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harisundHello! I have eth0 and eth1, and both are DHCP clients. Now when I do apt-get update, how do I know which of the two is being used? How do I force internet access through eth0 or eth1?05:20
rylasasinits not in the packages menu05:20
CosmoDadbruenig: well I fixed it... there's a forum entry that deals with the issue05:20
kitcheHTGN-css|Silent_: you have to mount /proc also05:20
bruenigCosmoDad, what was the answer?05:20
HTGN-css|Silent_in fdisk -l there are no sda partitions05:20
CosmoDadbruenig: you have to overwrite the nppdf.so which is located in /usr/lib/Adobe/... with one from an official tarball05:20
tarmathbruenig, ArrenLex, kitche: thanks for your help...05:20
jester45i have a problem with my printer when i try to print it says that is cant get Deskjet 712c setup in CUPS can anyone please help05:21
HTGN-css|Silent_brb, trying again05:21
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kitcheharisund: disable the one you don't want to use by ifdown eth1 or eth0 or setup iptables correctly05:21
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adamwhat does banshee usually do when it recognizes a mp3 player?05:23
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kitcheharisund: such as force the internet though one of the eth devices05:23
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ellioTbman, that KDE is still installin on here05:23
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lnostdali recently upgraded to edgy-beta - and i miss having 4 desktops as opposed to only having 2 like now -- any way to configure this?05:23
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bur[n] erinimesekene: definately... and i'll tell you in #ubuntu+105:23
harisundkitche, hmm... no iptables involved... (or should there be?).. see, eth0 has (gw and eth1 has (gw and I login from both subnets.. so I can't block anything through iptables05:23
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Madpilotlnostdal, right-click on the desktop switcher, choose Preferences, pick how many desktops you want to have (I have eight, myself...)05:24
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jmerlinanyone here ever install XPde?05:24
FlannelSoekisan: right, october.  6.10 (2006, 10th month)05:24
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kitcheharisund: well then you won't be able to tell which one is used anyways but probably by defaul eth0 is your internet05:24
ArrenLexjmerlin: I did, once. It was terrible. Don't use it. If you want XP, use XP.05:25
poorufeross: hey thanks a lot, it worked05:25
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jmerlinArrenLex, it's not for me05:25
jmerlinbut anyway05:25
jmerlinafter running through the setup05:25
kitcheharisund: you can check in the networking part what's your main network card05:25
SuperMigueldoes any one know any linux that i can boot from an usb drive05:25
jmerlinit tells me that i need to add the lines in xinitircDEFAULT to my system05:25
adamBANSHEE: what does it usually do when it recognises a mp3 player?05:25
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jmerlinwhere do i add those to use it?05:25
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ArrenLexjmerlin: whoever it's for; if you want a desktop that's easy for a windows user to use but still powerful and complete, use KDE.05:25
jester45SuperMiguel: damnsmalllinux will05:26
SuperMigueli wont boot :(05:26
jmerlini'm trying out options05:26
kitcheadam: it should say if the mp3 player is mounted in Options05:26
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jmerlinhow do i get it to run?05:26
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harisundkitche: sorry no GUI .. I am thinking it has something to do with the default gw in the output of the route command?05:26
jwhitlarkhas anyone ever attended a ubuntu developer summit?  Next one is near me and I want to know if it's worth going.05:26
ArrenLexjmerlin: xinitrc is in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc for the whole system and in ~/.xinitrc for you.05:26
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dailamanickv111, i have another question05:26
kitcheharisund: yes whatever is default is what your network runs though05:27
dailamado you mind?05:27
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ellioTbholy hell this laptop is hot in my lap05:27
dailamahow do you open an executable file in linux ?05:27
Madpilotjwhitlark, they're not really public confrences in the exhibits & speakers type sense (although they're public in the anyone-can-show-up sense)05:27
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ArrenLexdailama: if you have permissions to execute it, just ./<file> from the command line or double-click on it from Nautilus.05:27
ellioTbjwhitlark, you might not be dork enough in real life to get in, lol05:28
kitchedailama: also with .exe you need wine to run it05:28
viatori guess yours is a notebook not a lpatop05:28
dailamaArrenLex, I would like to open the file to see how it was written05:28
ellioTberr dorky05:28
jwhitlarkI don't know about that, I'm a sysadmin ;P05:28
jmerlinArrenLex, read your PM05:28
ellioTbviator, whatever you call it, hot as hell05:28
adambur[n] er: here's what you read: Banshee developers are also working on two other types:    * Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) a.k.a. PlaysForSure(tm) devices05:28
ellioTbjwhitlark, you pass!05:28
ArrenLexI totally read "viator" as "vibrator" o_o05:28
dailamaArrenLex, For instance...I would like to open the program tilda or grep or similar05:28
jwhitlarkellioTb: tnks!05:29
ladydoordailama: you just type grep05:29
ArrenLexdailama: open what file?05:29
ellioTbjwhitlark, thats actually the secret password to get in05:29
dailamanot the program, the file05:29
ladydoordailama: you don't "open" grep.05:29
kitchedailama: you need the source code to do that05:29
dailamai want to see what its doing05:29
ArrenLexjmerlin: I have no PM.05:29
dailamaisn't this linux05:29
dailamaopen source?05:29
adambur[n] er?05:29
ArrenLexdailama: the source code?05:29
dailamaArrenLex: yes05:29
ArrenLexdailama: yes, but the source code is separate -- you can't EXECUTE source. :P05:29
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cl187i gots a question05:29
jwhitlarkellioTb, I can't just show up w/ a pocket protector?05:30
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jmerlinso i rename that DEFAULT file to .xinitre ?05:30
cl187my wireless sees networks05:30
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jmerlinin my home05:30
cl187i put in my key05:30
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jmerlinand reboot05:30
ellioTbjwhitlark, yes, or a shirt with a commodore on it05:30
cl187but network fails05:30
tarmathbruenig, ArrenLex, kitche: as an epilogue sort-of note, i just want to let you guys know I found out aptitude also installs "recommended" packages, and not only dependencies...05:30
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ellioTbi can't even spell that05:30
ArrenLexdailama: google for the grep sources is the best idea. Else you'd have to go through ubuntu source packages.05:30
jmerlinand after i try that, how do i run KDE?05:30
viatoryou can look at and  change the source05:30
ladydoordailama: just because it's free software doesn't mean you have the magical ability to read binary. you need to look at the source code used to create the binary.05:30
jwhitlarkor an amiga...05:30
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ArrenLextarmath: yes, I suspected. I myself never use it.05:30
viatorand then compile and execute05:30
dailamaladydoor: I can understand that now...05:30
ArrenLexjmerlin: do you mean, how do you INSTALL kde?05:30
dailamaladydoor: I do believe I have been pointed in the right direction05:30
ellioTbjwhitlark, lol, or any sort of star wars paraphernalia05:30
jmerlinArrenLex, how do i get it to run?05:31
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ellioTbjmerlin, mine is installing it right now05:31
ellioTbjmerlin, what are you in right now?05:31
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bur[n] eradam: got me senor :\05:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: do you have it installed? If so, just run "exec startkde" from the terminal.05:31
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ellioTbjmerlin, press control + alt + backspace05:31
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ellioTbthat will take you to login05:31
jwhitlarkTREK! TREK!05:31
ellioTbthen click on options05:31
ellioTbthen go to "sessions"05:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:32
ArrenLexjmerlin: if you've got a display manager, log out and log in as KDE.05:32
ellioTband change it to "KDE"05:32
asdfasdfalright, so I chrooted to my mounted linux partition and mounted proc and tried to grub-install sda and I get /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device05:32
jwhitlarkI'm actually downloading battlestar gal. at the moment, tho.05:32
jmerlink i'll try05:32
ellioTbjwhitlark, the secret handshake to get in is the spock thing05:32
asdfasdffdisk -l returns absolutely nothing05:32
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ArrenLexasdfasdf: sudo fdisk -l05:32
asdfasdfI am root05:33
adamdang i wonder how long it will take them? how long has MTP devices been around? it sure does take a while to implement stupid protocols microsoft makes up for no reason when UMS works just as well or better.05:33
asdfasdfsudo su05:33
pooruasdfasdf: use" sudo fdisk -l05:33
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ellioTbyou are on irc as root? isn't that dangerous05:33
ellioTbor is that old school05:33
ArrenLexasdf: you can't combine sudo and su.05:33
asdfasdfI could care less ellio, I just want this to work05:33
ArrenLexasdf: it's impossible to sudo su.05:33
ellioTblast time i was in linux before this ubuntu install was back in the day05:33
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ellioTbasdfasdf, i know, no hackers here cept jwhitlark05:33
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jwhitlarkArrenLex, no it's not, I do it all the time.05:33
ArrenLexadsf: no, wait, it may not be impossible. But don't.05:34
kyjauh oh/.!! I need help.05:34
ArrenLexOkay, well, there you go.05:34
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:34
siviki need help getting connected with minicom05:34
asdfasdfanyway, fdisk -l returns nothing as root05:34
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asdfasdfhow do I "scan" for my partitions?05:34
ellioTbonly 866 people in here, weak05:34
ArrenLexasdf: what happens if you go back to normal user and run sudo fdisk -l?05:34
ellioTbasdfasdf, what about the partition manager, thats a real easy way to see05:34
holycowfdisk -l05:35
asdfasdfgood idea05:35
ArrenLexasdf: if that doesn't work, try /proc/partitions05:35
ArrenLexi.e. "cat /proc/partitions:05:35
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ArrenLexi.e. "cat /proc/partitions"05:35
kyjadurring install after updating to edgy it could not move a folder in x11 so it stopped all installs prematurily. now I dont know how to continue the upgrade. I manualy moved the folder it needed moved.05:35
jwhitlarkuse df (disk free) to see your mounted partitions.05:35
ellioTbkyja, i think they want you to ask that in #ubuntu+105:35
ArrenLexkyja: apt-get -f install05:35
ellioTbi dunno, but you might get better results in there05:35
kitcheto see mounted partitions it's mount05:36
kyjathx I try05:36
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ArrenLexellioTb: I don't think so. Her question is a generic one about interrupted upgrades.05:36
valehruHey guys, I'm getting the following error with my phpmyadmin installation: extension=mysql.so05:36
valehruCannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration.05:36
SuperMiguelhow can i write and read to my usb drive05:36
ellioTboh ok, perfecto, is there a lot of good new stuff in edgy?05:36
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Languiddoes anyone know how to stop firefox from crashing when05:37
Languidwhoops sorry05:37
adamOMG!!!! something happened!! my mp3 player says it's connected to the comp!! there's hope yet!!05:37
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jwhitlarkasdf, did those things help (mount/df)05:37
sivikadam: what kind of mp3 player?05:37
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ellioTbi have a dell jukebox i wanna get connected sometime when i am not so lazy05:37
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ferossSuperMiguel: usually it pops up on your desktop and you can doubleclick to open/read/write05:38
asdfasdfhmm... I can get the partitions to show up in fdisk, but when I chroot to my linux partition I get a root commandline05:38
sg2knixtech - sorry i asked earlier but then got distracted.  To install codecs for ubuntu you recommended easy ubuntu but easy ubuntu doesn't work for me05:38
adamCreative Zen Vision: M05:38
sg2neither is automatix working for me05:38
ellioTboh my god! KDE is done, be back later05:38
sg2any other ideas?05:38
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sivikadam: are you using gnomad>=2.8.5?05:38
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siviki need some help getting minicom to get into my router05:38
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cisco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
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ArrenLexsg2: I can help you, hold on...05:39
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jmerlinit says all i have installed is GNOME05:40
asdfasdfI'm getting bash: /proc/partitions: Permission denied as root... ??05:40
SuperMiguelthe only linux that can stand on windows is dsl?05:40
jmerlinwhere do i get the other one?05:40
asdfasdfDSL embedded runs slow05:40
PleceboI'm having trouble connecting my laptop's wireless card to my wap network. I only see wep connection settings... can anyone help me out.05:40
kitcheasdfasdf: you chrooted into your systen?05:40
ferossSuperMiguel: cygwin works well05:40
adami'm not sure, how do i check? but when I try opening gnomad2 by typing gnomad2 in the terminal, i get this error: gnomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libmtp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:40
SuperMiguelcygwin is hard :S05:40
SuperMigueli dont understand it05:41
kitcheasdfasdf: you have to mount /proc also to <mountpoint>/proc05:41
sivikadam: did you install gnomad2 from apt-get?05:41
asdfasdfI typed mount /proc and it accepted the command05:41
asdfasdfwhere should I put it?05:41
ferossPlecebo: fdalmoro.blogspot.com look at the mini wpa howto05:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:41
jwhitlarkcygwin is great, but it's a little different, and that causes a number of probs.  I'd rather just use linux.05:41
tonyyarussoPlecebo: ^^05:41
Plecebofeross,  thanks i'll check that out05:41
SuperMiguelany other embedded linux?05:41
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kitcheasdfasdf: you have to mount proc to your system that you are chrooting into05:42
adamidk i've been trying tons of different stuff people have been telling me, but I think yes the last time i tried to install gnomad2 it was from apt-get05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
ferossSuperMiguel: well, you could always run ubuntu on a spare pc and ssh into it :) or vnc to it.05:42
kitche!proc > asdfasdf05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about proc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:43
jmerlinwhat are some other windows-like desktop enviroments05:43
SuperMigueli dont want to have my computer always on05:43
jmerlinand how do i install KDE?05:43
kitchehmmmmm oh well I don't feel like searching the gentoo docs right now for the right mount command05:43
viatordoes networkmanager work "out of the box" with edgy05:43
ArrenLexjmerlin: apt-get install kde-core kdebase :P05:43
ArrenLexexcept that :P05:43
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halexviator: no, it doesn't..05:43
asdfasdfjmerlin, use synaptic package manager05:43
viatoror is it not even installed by default as in dapper05:43
ArrenLexsg2: download the package http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb05:43
ArrenLexsg2: install it using dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb05:44
jmerlinwell.. are there any skins for it to make it look like win XP?05:44
ArrenLexjmerlin: yes. Why do you want them?05:44
SuperMiguelyou can use candy eye05:44
sg2arrenlex: should i use the wget command or can i just download it05:44
feross!easyubuntu > sg205:44
jmerlinbecause it's for an organization i work for05:44
viatorxp skins :|05:44
jmerlinthey ask i give, that's what i'm paid for.05:44
jmerlini don't ask questions05:45
ArrenLexsg2: whatever is more comfortable for you, as long as it ends up on your hard drive.05:45
Plecebofeross,  from the guide "Point it to lo and then remove it from the panel." do they mean the network manager or the gnome-network stuff?05:45
jmerlinthey want the desktop to be censored midget porn, i'll put it on there05:45
ferossPlecebo: the gnome-network stuff05:45
Plecebofeross, thanks05:45
SuperMigueltell merlin about !gdesjets05:45
sg2awesome, thanks alot!05:45
Madpilotjmerlin, check gnome-look.org05:45
ArrenLexjmerlin: www.kde-look.org might have some suggestions05:45
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gdeskjets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
jmerlinis KDE better than gnome?05:45
ArrenLexjmerlin: YES! :P05:46
SuperMiguelnot better05:46
viatorjmerlin matter of opinion05:46
ArrenLexjmerlin: no.05:46