[12:01] <zmo> trappist - actually I'd like to get some FAQ/Howto/whatever RFTM about it
[12:01] <rukuartic> Captain_Redbeard: Look around on the internet for one, download the package from their site and get the .conf from there?
[12:01] <Dr_willis> Captain_Redbeard,  search the repos.. theres a kxdocker data package as well
[12:01] <zmo> trappist - that didn't work out
[12:01] <cpk2> Dr_willis: who says I've been worrying this whole time haha, I have music playing ya know =P
[12:01] <zmo> I have to load the sblive module first
[12:01] <trappist> zmo: no, it won't when your card isn't in /proc/asound/cards
[12:01] <Captain_Redbeard> Dr_willis: isntalled it already... no difference
[12:01] <zmo> that's the only way
[12:01] <physicsnick> guys? how do i view my syslog?
[12:01] <zmo> when it is in /proc/asound/cards
[12:01] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  listing to the latest Weird AL cd eh.
[12:01] <pike_> AgEnT-0016: once you do it though there is no going back you might if you have freespace just install it to another partition and then copy over your home dir
[12:01] <zmo> physicsnick - less /var/log/syslog
[12:01] <rukuartic> physicsnick: dmesg
[12:01] <physicsnick> zmo, rukuartic, thanks
[12:02] <avagant> guys is /home/skt suppose to have like 1000 files in it?
[12:02] <avagant> Because it's MY name?
[12:02] <rukuartic> physicsnick: Not sure what dmesg actualy does, I'm pretty sure its syslog. any check zmo?
[12:02] <avagant> or my usr name or whatever?
[12:02] <cpk2> Dr_willis: I heard it was good but, no
[12:02] <AgEnT-0016> spike_ is this safe? i mean, is it as stable as drake?
[12:02] <zmo> there are so many modules loaded, that I'm damn lost
[12:02] <Dr_willis> Captain_Redbeard,  i installed them both and it worked for me.. another guy had similer issue and installed both and then it worked... kxdocker sort of SUCKS anyway :P to be honest
[12:02] <trappist> zmo: also gnome is rumored to have a pretty good interface for all of this, but I don't use gnome so I can't help with that
[12:02] <cpk2> I'll put it on my to get list
[12:02] <zmo> trappist - gnome sucks pretty much about it for now
[12:02] <avagant> is it possible get rid of gnome and have the kde only?
[12:02] <zmo> there's even a launchpad about that
[12:02] <likewhoa54> my xorg.conf file needs to be generated on the fly for each individual workstation that boots up off the network
[12:03] <GigaClon> my gcc 3.3 is broken I get this, gcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory
[12:03] <zmo> but gnome 2.16 has the fix :)
[12:03] <Captain_Redbeard> Dr_willis: ok? do you have anything else to roccomend? to use as a bar that is?
[12:03] <likewhoa54> using nfs boot....need to make an xorg.conf on the fly, can anyone suggest a direction to look in?
[12:03] <Dr_willis> avagant,  yes - but its a hassle
[12:03] <zmo> anyway
[12:03] <TheMoebius> i thought compiz/Xgl was supposed to be included in edgy by default. is this not the case?
[12:03] <zmo> think I'm gonna rebuild the alsa-base file
[12:03] <Dr_willis> Captain_Redbeard,  i just use the normal kde panel.. i hate the actual OS-X funky dock.
[12:03] <avagant> Dr_willis: Cause I have both, and I don't know if that's why my gb's went down like...2 gb's.
[12:03] <trappist> TheMoebius: no, it's not ready for that yet
[12:03] <zmo> but noone has hints about the modprobe.d thing ?
[12:03] <zmo> I don't like to use things I don't understand fully
[12:03] <Dr_willis> avagant,  they both take up some space.. but not a huge amount.
[12:04] <zmo> and rebuilding it and not repairing it myself would be a failure to me
[12:04] <knixtech> need help guys, when i do apt-get install electricsheep, i get "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:04] <knixtech>   Major opcode:  145
[12:04] <knixtech>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:04] <knixtech>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:04] <knixtech> Failed to open device
[12:04] <knixtech> DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction.
[12:04] <knixtech> Selecting previously deselected package electricsheep.
[12:04] <knixtech> (Reading database ... 84177 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:04] <knixtech> Unpacking electricsheep (from .../electricsheep_2.6.4-2ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... "
[12:04] <Captain_Redbeard> Dr_willis: it's a bit boring.. I'm into styling my desktop as of now... :)
[12:04] <pike_> !paste > knixtech
[12:04] <knixtech> sorry
[12:04] <trappist> zmo: what was the modprobe.d question? (disclaimer: I probably can't help)
[12:04] <Dr_willis> Captain_Redbeard,  uselesw eye candy.. good luck.
[12:04] <Captain_Redbeard> Dr_willis: I just got myself a dualcore amd64 and I want to see how much shit I can put on it before it starts complaining about load :)
[12:04] <zmo> trappist - well, do you have any documentation that talk about that, especially in ubuntu ?
[12:05] <zmo> I'd like to understand what's all those aliases and options for
[12:05] <Mille> thanks an yway. cya tomorrow everyone. nn
[12:05] <TheMoebius> if I install the compiz and xgl packages on edgy will it automatically configure it, or will I still have to hack it to get it working like in dapper?
[12:05] <knixtech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/
[12:05] <zmo> and there should be somewhere some kind of mini-howto or something
[12:05] <knixtech> please help
[12:05] <zmo> but I didn't find one
[12:05] <zmo> !modprobe.d
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <GigaClon> !wireless
[12:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:06] <trappist> zmo: no, afaik there is none.  the kernel devs seem to go to some trouble to ensure that you a) don't have to, and b) can't, mess with the kernel or its modules
[12:06] <CaptainMorgan> folks - so I did sudo apt-remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and have finished the downloading, with an error at the end concerning a connection.. looks like 99% was downloaded.. do I just continue? what do I need to do? restart X ? to see Gnome back?
[12:06] <zmo> trappist - but they should not
[12:06] <theacolyte> Well, you'll all be pleased to know I got the dual head part working, so you can breath now -- quick question though. I want to switch which is the "primary" screen, is there an easy way to do that?
[12:06] <zmo> trappist - they can't rely on other abstractions
[12:06] <avagant> Dr_willis: Well is /home/skt suppose to have like 9000 files in it?
[12:06] <avagant> Dr_willis: Because skt is my user name.
[12:07] <avagant> Dr_willis: But when I click into /home/skt only 3 files show.
[12:07] <zmo> I mean, I used modules.conf for years, and never had any trouble using it
[12:07] <knixtech> electric sheep help  -  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/
[12:07] <zmo> now I'm using Ubuntu and I get troubles
[12:07] <Dr_willis> avagant,  ls -al
[12:07] <matt8806suomi> when i click the logout button, it takes me to the login screen without displaying a screen asking option like: switch user, lock screen, logout, restart, suspend, hibernate, shutdown!! can anyone help??
[12:07] <avagant> in /home/skt?
[12:07] <avagant> that would take a long time. haha
[12:07] <kitche> zmo: well modules.conf isn't really used anymore it's for older kernels
[12:07] <zmo> kitche - yup
[12:08] <zmo> !module-init-tools
[12:08] <ubotu> module-init-tools: tools for managing Linux kernel modules. In component main, is important. Version 3.2.2-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 76 kB, installed size 316 kB
[12:08] <trappist> zmo: preaching to the choir, there
[12:08] <Dr_willis> matt8806suomi,  did you login to X using gdm/kdm/ or the shell?
[12:08] <theacolyte> How is primary and secondary monitors specified in xorg.conf?
[12:08] <zmo> trappist - uhuh :)
[12:08] <theacolyte> are, rather
[12:08] <rukuartic> Anyway to get usplash to work with initng?
[12:08] <matt8806suomi> it automatically starts the gui when it boots
[12:08] <slara> hello
[12:09] <zmo> and whatever my problem is
[12:09] <avagant> maybe i'm just reading something wrong.
[12:09] <zmo> it's just a matter of understanding what's wrong
[12:09] <avagant> this kde menu is kinda confusing when it comes to searching for my files.
[12:09] <matt8806suomi> Dr_willis: it automatically starts the gui when it boots
[12:09] <sladen> rukuartic: usplash just depends on a framebuffer and lsb
[12:09] <slara> my girlfriend need to make a talk about ubuntu
[12:10] <slara> and she needs slides for the presentation
[12:10] <knixtech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/
[12:10] <zmo> well reinstalling alsa-base
[12:11] <Dr_willis> matt8806suomi,  you are refering to GDM? or are you saying it auto-logins to the user?
[12:11] <GreenLantern> rukaurtic: i have the lsusb number
[12:12] <matt8806suomi> Dr_willis:   auto logins in after 3o seconds with a gui
[12:12] <CaptainMorgan> folks - so I did sudo apt-remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and have finished the downloading, with an error at the end concerning a connection.. looks like 99% was downloaded.. do I just continue? what do I need to do? restart X ? to see Gnome back?
[12:12] <GreenLantern> i need some help with a wireless card.  It's linksys.
[12:12] <knixtech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/
[12:13] <Dr_willis> matt8806suomi,  i am guessing the autologin feature is disablign that stuff then
[12:13] <avagant> Is there a way to list all the programs installed when not on the command line?
[12:13] <kothz> !lam
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <kothz> !lamp
[12:13] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[12:14] <GreenLantern> !linksys
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linksys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: here
[12:14] <GreenLantern> oh good.  What now?
[12:14] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?action=show&redirect=SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[12:14] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Thats a complete tutorial on how to get it working
[12:14] <knixtech> anyone help with electric sheep issue  -http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/
[12:14] <matt8806suomi> Dr_willis: what other causes would there be cause i has been doing it longer than i have had "timed login" setup
[12:14] <physicsnick> question, i just set up ddclient to update my ip address. but i can't get the damn thing to output any sort of log messages whatsoever
[12:14] <GreenLantern> and i will need the lsusb number?
[12:14] <physicsnick> how do i know if it's working?
[12:15] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Yep, just follow through the thing completely
[12:15] <porkpie> what kernel is dapper running
[12:15] <rukuartic> porkpie: uname -r
[12:15] <noumaan> i think that by changing some keys in us  layout in /etc/x11/xkb/symbols i can assign the shift role to someother key is this possible/
[12:15] <noumaan> my keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key
[12:15] <holycow> !wpa
[12:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:16] <CaptainMorgan> am I set on ignore or something?
[12:16] <rukuartic> porkpie: I'm 2.6.15-27-386
[12:16] <CaptainMorgan> :D
[12:16] <GreenLantern> rukuartic: How can I be sure that it's not working already?  Because honestly, I don't know.
[12:16] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, do ya wanna be?
[12:16] <knixtech> CaptainMorgan, so am i , ;)
[12:16] <CaptainMorgan> I did sudo apt-get remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, restarted X server and see no changes in the type of sessions available
[12:16] <knixtech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/
[12:16] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: You can try "ifconfig" to see what interfaces you are, and then "iwlist (interface) scan"
[12:16] <holycow> me signs up CaptainMorgan and Captain_Redbeard  for battle of the pirates
[12:17] <CaptainMorgan> holycow !
[12:17] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: But if it doesn't work, then you probably won't find stuff.
[12:17] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Sorry, if you don't find stuff, it won't work, and you need to follow the tutorial.
[12:17] <holycow> test
[12:17] <Captain_Redbeard> Yarr ;)
[12:17] <holycow> heh :)
[12:17] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get Gnome without reinstalling??
[12:18] <knixtech> please guys, there 900 people in here, and no responses   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25604/
[12:18] <Captain_Redbeard> need to use the bathroom for a bit... but when I'm back you better keep that rapier ready ;)
[12:18] <CaptainMorgan> im sick of KDE
[12:18] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, well just reinstall gnome
[12:18] <holycow> !gnomedesktop
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <CaptainMorgan> nice one holycow
[12:18] <CaptainMorgan> wth
[12:18] <holycow> search for gnome desktop something or other, you will recognize it when you see it
[12:18] <holycow> that will pull in all the gnome stuff
[12:19] <holycow> and then log out, select gnome on the bottom left hand side as your default de and log back in
[12:19] <GreenLantern> rukuartic: what should i see with ifconfig andiwlist
[12:19] <knixtech> am i a ghost?
[12:19] <rukuartic> GreenLantern: Ok, type iwconfig. you might see things like "eth0" or "wlan0" or something... try going "iwlist eth0 scan" or "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[12:20] <CaptainMorgan> holycow:  bottom left?
[12:20] <holycow> you haveto logout first
[12:21] <holycow> oh christ
[12:21] <holycow> we need a wpa supplicant interface
[12:21] <CaptainMorgan> already did after the command I listed above
[12:21] <holycow> *hmmmm*
[12:21] <jkku3> holy spirit
[12:21] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, you couldn't of possibly installed gnome already
[12:21] <theacolyte> Wow, I'm at a loss. How can I set which monitor is the "primary" in xorg.conf?
[12:21] <holycow> that will take well over an hour on adsl
[12:21] <CaptainMorgan> holycow: took over an hour to dl
[12:22] <holycow> but you asked 3 minutes ago?
[12:22] <CaptainMorgan> right!
[12:22] <tamacracker> Hey guys?... How do I ping someone?
[12:22] <CaptainMorgan> because I had already applied that ocmmand!
[12:22] <rukuartic> tamacracker: ping <host>
[12:22] <holycow> *cough* wee bit of lag?
[12:22] <tamacracker> through terminal?
[12:22] <CaptainMorgan> which is why I asked if I was being ignored
[12:22] <CaptainMorgan> remmeber?
[12:22] <rukuartic> tamacracker: Yep :) You could also use some gui tool, don't know which one it is though./
[12:22] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, can i ignore you too?
[12:22] <holycow> j/k!
[12:22] <frojnd> topic... who is Lilo ?
[12:22] <Phlosten> tamacracker: or System->Administration->Network Tools
[12:23] <holycow> what command was that i don't feel like scrolling
[12:23] <rukuartic> tamacracker: Phlosten beat me to it
[12:23] <tamacracker> cool let me check it out hold on
[12:23] <frojnd> !Lilo
[12:23] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[12:23] <Phlosten> frojnd: lilo was the founder of freenode
[12:23] <Subhuman> frojnd, no lilo was the "owner" of freenode.... the irc server your using now.
[12:24] <kitche> frojnd: he ran freenode
[12:24] <CaptainMorgan> holycow: sudo apt-get remove kde ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:24] <theacolyte> One of the nicest people you'd ever meet
[12:24] <zmo> RIP
 hi all, I am trying to install a D-Link WUA-1340 under ubuntu using ndiswrapper.  I extracted the .inf .sys and .bin file from my Windows D-link exe.  This driver doesnt seem to work (It says that the driver is incorrect).  Could someone help?
[12:24] <holycow> lol thats not a good idea
[12:24] <frojnd> what is he dead or smth
[12:24] <CaptainMorgan> err.. maybe I missed the sudo in the second half?
[12:24] <holycow> you should of installed gnome first, made sure it worked then removed kde
[12:24] <theacolyte> Yes
[12:24] <holycow> however
[12:24] <holycow> you didn't actually remove kde
[12:24] <holycow> you removed the metapackage
[12:25] <tamacracker> Ok one more question Phlosten
[12:25] <holycow> kde is still there... you will need to remove one of the main kde libs to pull everything out so you are still good
[12:25] <CaptainMorgan> please oblige to the right commmand?
[12:25] <tamacracker> How do I check if I'm being pinged?
[12:25] <holycow> log out, select session i think, and select gnome desktop it should appear in a list there next to kde
[12:25] <CaptainMorgan> sudo apt-get install gnome? or ubuntu-desktop?
[12:25] <CaptainMorgan> holycow:  in that list gnome is NOT listed
[12:25] <Phlosten> tamacracker: no idea
[12:25] <CaptainMorgan> only default, kde, and X stuff
[12:26] <CaptainMorgan> I know for a fact there's no Gnome option
[12:26] <holycow> weird
[12:26] <CaptainMorgan> did I need to have sudo before the second half command?
[12:26] <CaptainMorgan> cuz I ddn't apply it
[12:26] <tamacracker> there's no way to check if im gettin pinged?
[12:26] <holycow> yes
[12:26] <CaptainMorgan> alright, Ill try that
[12:26] <tamacracker> or atleast block a ping from a known IP address?
[12:27] <CaptainMorgan> sorry, holycow I just checked terminal history, I DID have sudo there, but in typing here in Konversation I forget to type it
[12:27] <avagant> what's the gk thing for kde?
[12:27] <holycow> sounds like gnome is installed.
[12:28] <CaptainMorgan> how do I access it? Im running the command again just to be safe
[12:28] <holycow> Captain_Redbeard, oh wait ...
[12:28] <holycow> are using kdm instead of gdm?
[12:28] <avagant> like i can go alt f2 and get run command what's the gksudo for kde?
[12:28] <holycow> try sudo apt-get install gdm
[12:28] <Crippy-Boy> Lo all
[12:29] <noumaan> my keyboards both shift keys are not working for unknown reasons. may be my keyboard has expired. so i want to know how could i assign the role of shift key to someother key
[12:29] <holycow> that should install the gnome display manager
[12:29] <CaptainMorgan> funny.. after tyring for the second time, it asked me if I want to use kdm, or gdm.. so i chose gdm
[12:29] <avagant> i have to figure out why i suddenly lost 2gb's.
[12:29] <dmglouis> how do I ping in terminal?
[12:29] <frojnd> hej guys, where can I find some channels that are mentioned just for chatting..
[12:29] <avagant> all those random apps i'm installing. haha
[12:29] <CaptainMorgan> the first time it didn't ask
[12:29] <Crippy-Boy> How would i install windows(on a seperate) partition without it fucking up my mbr and/or xubuntu install?  (i need to install windows for college)
[12:30] <kitche> frojnd: #freenode-social #ubuntu-offtopic is two
[12:30] <avagant> i wish there was a way to list what apps i had without going through all the apps in the package manager.
[12:30] <holycow> remove kdm altogether, i don't know why it wouldn't show gnome its usually pretty good
[12:30] <RickH> hi all
[12:31] <Crippy-Boy> lo
[12:31] <dmglouis> can someone help me?
[12:31] <Crippy-Boy> dmglouis, with?
[12:31] <holycow> ping ip.ad.dr.ess
[12:31] <Kirby> I have a problem, im not sure what i did but now the boot loader shows 2 Ubuntu's... both the same
[12:31] <dmglouis> how do i ping in erminal
[12:31] <dmglouis> thanks
[12:31] <Crippy-Boy> ping -c 3 <host>
[12:31] <stu_> Kirby: are you sure they are exactly the same, one digit might be different
[12:31] <CaptainMorgan> holycow: it's running a different install than last time... with the option of gdm being applied.. so in 45 minutes I should see Gnome among th list in session
[12:32] <CaptainMorgan> thanks dude
[12:32] <Kirby> well, was there an update that made a new one?
[12:32] <CaptainMorgan> or dudet
[12:32] <stu_> Kirby: quite possibly
[12:32] <likewhoa54> dudatious!
[12:32] <dmglouis> how do I make it only a particular # of requests
[12:32] <lsc> hey guys where do i find my 3d driver for intel 810 ?
[12:32] <holycow> no worries
[12:32] <Kirby> i never installed anything new. i was messing with mounts right before that happened
[12:32] <RickH> any idea why ubuntu live cd would lock up?....edubuntu runs fine
[12:33] <lsc> hey guys where do i find my 3d driver for intel 810 ?
[12:33] <dmglouis> never mind
[12:33] <RickH> on live cd
[12:33] <linusHimself> hi al
[12:33] <Kirby> ok, IF 1 digit WAS different, how can i move windows XP to the top of the boot loader list
[12:33] <Kirby> and how can i remove the 10 second timer
[12:33] <Crippy-Boy> Kirby, look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:33] <linusHimself> i massed up my X while trying to install xgl/mopix
[12:34] <Kirby> ok =D
[12:34] <sivik> anyone here use gnomad2>=2.8.5?
[12:34] <Crippy-Boy> Kirby, back it up before changing it though
[12:34] <Kirby> is that where i remove the timer? Crippy-Boy
[12:34] <holycow> linusHimself, thats alpha software, its only meant as an excercise to see if it can be done.  yeah it will hose your system (not really it can be fixed with hard work) but reinstall
[12:35] <Crippy-Boy> Kirby theres a 'timeout' line in menu.lst, Alter that to what you want
[12:35] <holycow> by reinstall i mean to say its far far easier and faster than mucking around reconstructing the x and desktop stuff
[12:35] <avagant> Wow maybe I should delete kde. How hard is it to delete kde-desktop without running the programs you have?
[12:35] <avagant> Or will I have to reinstall amarok agian, the only thing media player i like now.
[12:35] <Kirby> ok thanks, ill be back.. =D
[12:35] <Crippy-Boy> Can anyone answer my question?
[12:36] <Kirby> if nothing is wrong.
[12:36] <linusHimself> good idea..
[12:36] <Kirby> i meant, if i have anymore problems
[12:36] <Crippy-Boy> How would i install windows(on a seperate) partition without it messing up my mbr and/or xubuntu install?  (i need to install windows for college)
[12:36] <Crippy-Boy> I dont wanna mess around reinstalling grub and such :(
[12:36] <linusHimself> it shouldnt be a problem
[12:36] <Phlosten> windows will always stuff your mbr
[12:36] <Rasta> dude
[12:36] <linusHimself> just resize ur current primary partition
[12:36] <RickH> Crippy-Boy, why would you need windoze?
[12:36] <Rasta> linus itself!
[12:36] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, you cannot install windows AFTER installing any other os on the hd first
[12:36] <Phlosten> Crippy-Boy: why not use vmware?
[12:37] <holycow> microsoft seems to think tha tits the only os on th eplanet and it overwrite the bootsector
[12:37] <sivik> after i run ./configure, i need to run make and make install correct
[12:37] <Crippy-Boy> Because i need it for college
[12:37] <tamacracker> Can it be possible to trace and block an IP address that's trying to flood your connection?
[12:37] <odyssevs> tamacracker, absolutely.
[12:37] <holycow> the easiest way is to install windows first on what would be the primary c partition, then install ubuntu after ... gnome will recognize windows and let you select options for install
[12:37] <linusHimself> so the bootloader will b removed, it could b later reinstalled
[12:37] <linusHimself> the hard way
[12:37] <Crippy-Boy> and im on a 1.4ghz powerbook, I dont wanna use a virtual machine.
[12:37] <sivik> tamacracker, are you using a router of some sort?
[12:37] <RickH> Crippy-Boy, what will win do that linux won't?
[12:37] <linusHimself> true
[12:37] <tamacracker> can you teach me how odysseys
[12:38] <odyssevs> tamacracker, I have the majority of the Pacific and Asia blocked.
[12:38] <tamacracker> nope... no router
[12:38] <odyssevs> tamacracker, which distro/etc are you on?
[12:38] <tamacracker> Ubuntu Drake
[12:38] <linusHimself> just wondering, is there a Triliian version 4 linux?
[12:38] <sivik> tamacracker, thats rather outdated
[12:38] <odyssevs> Is iptables on drake?
[12:38] <Crippy-Boy> Listen, I came here to ask for advice not to be questioned, I need windows because theres alot of windows only software i need for college which the chances are wont work with wine and its far easier for me to just dual boot.
[12:39] <odyssevs> tamacracker, before we waste time, apt-get install chkrootkit and then run it.
[12:39] <tamacracker> oh sorry
[12:39] <faceprint> i'm getting an X crash whenever i close the lid on my laptop in edgy...anyone else seeing this?
[12:39] <sivik> Crippy-Boy, what are these windows only programs?
[12:39] <tamacracker> i have Dapper Drake
[12:39] <tamacracker> ok
[12:39] <SinnerG> sivik: don't try .. :P
[12:39] <marshall> intel helping people switch from windows: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-roadmap.html
[12:39] <sivik> SinnerG, don't try what?
[12:39] <holycow> actually he's kinda right
[12:39] <SinnerG> go into a discussion :p
[12:39] <holycow> lets not question the dudes intentions too much :)
[12:39] <sivik> SinnerG, discussion about what?
[12:39] <sivik> Crippy-Boy, what programs?
[12:39] <holycow> let's support him
[12:39] <holycow> :)
[12:40] <Crippy-Boy> Macromedia studio, Groupwise, and a bunch of other stuff.
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> is there a way to locally search non-installed packages for files they contain locally? So I don't have to wait 15 mins for results on packages.ubuntulinux.org?
[12:40] <SinnerG> sivik: we'll see :p
[12:40] <sivik> SinnerG, discussion about what?
[12:40] <tamacracker> hey odyssevs: sude apt-get install chkrootkit
[12:40] <tamacracker> bash: sude: command not found
[12:40] <SinnerG> fyi, I'm a windows user with an ubuntu dedi server ;)
[12:40] <RickH> Crippy-Boy, just curious...here trying to learn as well...i haven't found any issues with win based stuff as yet....they either run or there is a replacement
[12:40] <Phlosten> Crippy-Boy: i personally find vmware-server the best option for those must have windows tasks
[12:40] <odyssevs> tamacracker, sudo
[12:40] <theacolyte> Can anyone look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25605/ and tell me why my External LCD (Screen 0 in server layout) is still not the primary sccreen?
[12:40] <odyssevs> tamacracker, just cut the crap and use sudo -s
[12:40] <SinnerG> I tried ubuntu before, but indead soem stuff I couldnt run and I dont like to dual boot :p
[12:40] <tamacracker> ah crap
[12:40] <tamacracker> i typed it wrong lol
[12:40] <SinnerG> I'm trying vista atm ;p
[12:40] <odyssevs> tamacracker, gets you into root mode. you'll be sudoing all day otherwise.
[12:40] <avagant> whoa my computer just suddenly started to lag.
[12:41] <SinnerG> (I dont own a legal copy of windows, so the vista beta is as legal I can get :p)
[12:41] <linusHimself> how is Vista?
[12:41] <tamacracker> yeah :)
[12:41] <statikeffeck> Question about the "Search for Files" feature: How do I search for ALL files even if I don't have access?
[12:41] <theacolyte> Vista isn't bad at all
[12:41] <tamacracker> Fuck WIndows Vista.
[12:41] <SinnerG> its okay, a bit to much security :p
[12:41] <odyssevs> Does anyone know who owns Microsoft?
[12:41] <theacolyte> I use it on my other machine
[12:41] <tamacracker> The new Linux is alot iller
[12:41] <SinnerG> the shareholders?
[12:41] <Crippy-Boy> I use linux all of the time, i havent touched windows in years, Your trying to preach to the converted, But the point is it'd be far simpler and faster for me to just install windows and i dont wanna virtualise on my crappy laptop.
[12:41] <DBO> tamacracker, please watch your language
[12:41] <theacolyte> And it's no more security than Ubuntu asking for the root password to do anything
[12:41] <odyssevs> Friend (not one for pulling my leg) remarked it was 87% US government owned. I'd sure like to see something to back that up (or otherwise).
[12:41] <SinnerG> true
[12:42] <likewhoa54> lol
[12:42] <tamacracker> oops sorry, New linux: Kororaa
[12:42] <sivik> odyssevs, what do you mean by owns?
[12:42] <holycow> dudes Crippy-Boy is right.  sometimes a means to an end is fine.  give him some breathing room :)
[12:42] <linusHimself> can we still get vista or are they finished with the beta?
[12:42] <likewhoa54> theacolyte: :(
[12:42] <theacolyte> I'm pretty sure you can still get it
[12:42] <Phlosten> Crippy-Boy: install windows, which will overwrite your mbr, boot with ubuntu live cd, and resurrect your mbr
[12:42] <SinnerG> beta is finished
[12:42] <odyssevs> sivik, shareholder wise.
[12:42] <theacolyte> I got it through my Technet subscription though
[12:42] <holycow> after he gets out of college he will be installing linux at every job he gets :)
[12:42] <SinnerG> I got a legal key
[12:42] <linusHimself> where?
[12:42] <SinnerG> you can still 'get' it tho ;)
[12:42] <gnomefreak> can you guys please stay on topic or join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue the MS talk
[12:42] <odyssevs> tamacracker, let me know when you've run chkrootkit.
[12:42] <SinnerG> I'm waiting for RC2 :P
[12:42] <sivik> odyssevs, not sure
[12:42] <tamacracker> Vista = owned by patriot act :x
[12:42] <SinnerG> okay gnome, if someone is there atleast ;p
[12:42] <odyssevs> gnomefreak, how about some gnomechat?
[12:43] <linusHimself> lol
[12:43] <Crippy-Boy> Phlosten, Thanks for the straight answer, thats what i suspected but i thought there may be a way around it. but thanks.
[12:43] <linusHimself> ok ok...
[12:43] <gnomefreak> odyssevs: if it has to do with support feel free to ask
[12:43] <sivik> Crippy-Boy, are some of those must use programs office stuff?
[12:43] <fgh_lo> can someone point me to a howto or guide for squid?
[12:43] <sivik> !squid
[12:43] <tamacracker> odyssevs, how do I run the chkrootkit?
[12:43] <Crippy-Boy> I wish i could always dictate to what software/os i run but im not going to get far in a career and/or education with that attitude.
[12:43] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.12-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2108 kB
[12:43] <linusHimself> I have to say that until i say gnome i never thought about moving to Linux,
[12:43] <odyssevs> gnomefreak, it looks uncannily like windows =P
[12:43] <theacolyte> gnomefreak: can you look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25605/ and tell me why my External LCD (Screen 0 in server layout) is still not the primary sccreen?
[12:43] <linusHimself> GUI is importent 2 me
[12:43] <odyssevs> tamacracker, type the name and hit enter (after installing it).
[12:43] <sivik> fgh_lo, try either wiki.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org
[12:43] <RickH> Crippy-Boy, sorry if i sounded "preachy"...didn't mean to ruffle feathers....just trying to learn if something specific didn't work
[12:43] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, not quite true, but partially
[12:44] <gnomefreak> odyssevs: that is far from support related
[12:44] <Crippy-Boy> sivik: some of them yes, Along with macromedia, Groupwise, .Net 2.0 runtimes with VC# and other stuff
[12:44] <avagant> So my computer started lagging pretty big time, and lost 2 gb almost overnight.
[12:44] <odyssevs> gnomefreak, well, Linux needs a psycho-spiritual support centre. For humans, of course.
[12:44] <sivik> Crippy-Boy, ok, .net 2.0 can be run with mono, some of macromedia stuff can be ran with crossover office
[12:44] <gnomefreak> theacolyte: in the first part there is a # infront of external screen  thats just as far as i got
[12:44] <odyssevs> tamacracker, if you get the all clear, we'll see about iptables to block off some ips.
[12:44] <Crippy-Boy> RickH, Its cool.
[12:44] <avagant> I don't know exactly what happened to make this thing start running so slow.
[12:45] <theacolyte> gnomefreak: I commented out that line so I could back out if I needed to
[12:45] <avagant> but it's lagging when i open more than one app and it didn't last night.
[12:45] <Crippy-Boy> sivik now your talking shite, Half of .net 1.1 is still missing in mono let alone 2
[12:45] <lsc> HOW TO ENABLE THE INTEL 810 3d DRIVER?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> the # is just that a comment it wont read it
[12:45] <theacolyte> Right, but after that I define the screens
[12:45] <tamacracker> odyssevs there were no errors of any sort
[12:45] <sivik> Crippy-Boy, whatever you say, i haven't had much problems with it
[12:45] <BlueEagle> avagant: Which timezone are you in?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> lsc: please dont use the caps
[12:45] <gnomefreak> !intel
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <gnomefreak> grrrrr
[12:45] <avagant> uhh pacific?
[12:46] <lgc> Help! My networking is 'kaputt' after an obliged Windoze session!
[12:46] <odyssevs> tamacracker, so you did not see "possible rootkit" or "infected" ?
[12:46] <sivik> lgc: what is the problem?
[12:46] <chemaja> What's with DLink ADSL routers and Ubuntu? Works in XP, but in Ubuntu it doesn't route TCP to inet (ICMP/UDP is fine)... and also, some hostnames resolve to 1.0.0.0.... what gives?
[12:46] <BlueEagle> avagant: oh.. and what time is it there? Did you turn on your computer just recently perhaps?
[12:46] <avagant> but loading up files and what not takes a real long time.
[12:46] <sureshot> does anyone know how compatible wine is to cedega from transgamming.com
[12:46] <chemaja> I'm with iPrimus (Australia)
[12:46] <avagant> no it's been on all night.
[12:46] <lgc> I can't connect to the outside, sivik
[12:46] <tamacracker> let me check, under what category odyssevs
[12:46] <BlueEagle> avagant: Well then that is odd. Anyways try: ps axu|grep updatedb
[12:46] <Kirby904> I am trying to edit menu.1st, and i cant save it
[12:46] <holycow> chemaja, no problems with them here ... did you check google?
[12:46] <sivik> lgc: that maybe an issue with the isp
[12:47] <avagant> What's that suppose to do?
[12:47] <odyssevs> tamacracker, apt-get install chkrootkit, then run chkrootkit.
[12:47] <sivik> Kirby904, make sure you sudo gedit/vi menu.list
[12:47] <lgc> sivik: I'f afraid not. I'm using Windoze now.
[12:47] <Kirby904> oh ok thanks
[12:47] <Crippy-Boy> sivik, Don't get me wrong, im not saying its bad or naff software or anything, nor am i saying that about crossover or anything else you mentioned, I just dont see the point in me spending hours trying to get everything running when the tutors would complain anyway, It seems a big waste of time and effort to me since the only thing ill be using it for is collage
[12:47] <Kirby904> its menu.1st or menu.list?
[12:47] <chemaja> holycow: didn't get a chance (no inet) :D -- i'm at work today so i can (not that i will, he went back to win2k -- i just had to rant)
[12:47] <sivik> Crippy-Boy, then don't use linux
[12:47] <tamacracker> odyssevs lol i already did that
[12:48] <avagant> BlueEagle: What's that suppose to do anyways?
[12:48] <holycow> chemaja, ah all cool.  i have a bunch they seem to work
[12:48] <BlueEagle> crippy-boy: No, god forbid that you might actually learn alternative ways of doing things
[12:48] <tamacracker> odyssevs then it did a bunch of checks and it seems like everythings ok
[12:48] <holycow> no idea, probably the isp comment might be the right clue
[12:48] <Crippy-Boy> sivik, I use it only for home use, But i NEED to use windows for college, hence the dual boot
[12:48] <Kirby904> New problem, when i open with sudo gedit, nothing shows in the text editor
[12:48] <chemaja> holycow: okidoke. i guess i just got unlucky. i think it was a 501 model or something
[12:48] <holycow> sorry it didn't work out, i hate it when they gotta go back to ms
[12:48] <BlueEagle> avagant: ps aux lists all running processes, grep scans that list for a pattern, in this case the process updatedb
[12:48] <odyssevs> tamacracker, smashing stuff. Now, you directly connected?
[12:48] <sivik> lgc: that really shouldn't be an issue with the os, the ip, subnet, and default gateway should all be assigned from the isp
[12:48] <gnomefreak> lgc: download xserver-xorg-video-i810 from ubuntu.packages.com and save it to usb stick than install it on ubuntu (you might want to get xorg and xserver-xorg-driver-all while you at it)
[12:49] <tamacracker> odyssevs im on cable internet
[12:49] <gnomefreak> oops
[12:49] <avagant> it didn't do anything
[12:49] <Crippy-Boy> BlueEagle, I already know those alternatives and they're not acceptible for my use.
[12:49] <BlueEagle> avagant: if it is running that is because slocate and friends are updating their index. This is a processor- and disk intensive operation.
[12:49] <gnomefreak> packages.ubuntu.com lgc
[12:49] <BlueEagle> crippy-boy: ...and why are you still here again?
[12:49] <odyssevs> tamacracker, sure, so no router/gateway/server between you and your connection, right? Does `iptables -L` show anything?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> xserver-xorg-driver*-i810
[12:49] <lgc> gnomefreak: what is that for?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> lgc: your intel card. werent you the person that needed the intel drivers
[12:50] <lsc> gome freek
[12:50] <Kirby904> when im moving "Windows XP" to the top of the boot list, do i just move this line to the top of my Ubuntu entries?
[12:50] <Kirby904> # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
[12:50] <Kirby904> # ones.
[12:50] <Kirby904> title		Other operating systems:
[12:50] <Kirby904> root
[12:50] <Kirby904> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[12:50] <Kirby904> # on /dev/hda1
[12:50] <lsc> i just installed kubnu
[12:50] <tamacracker> odyssevs I get a policies accepted
[12:50] <Kirby904> title		Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[12:50] <Kirby904> root		(hd0,0)
[12:50] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell kirby904 abotu paste
[12:50] <Kirby904> savedefault
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell kirby904 abotu paste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <Kirby904> makeactive
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Kirby904: you can stop pasteing now
[12:50] <Kirby904> chainloader	+1
[12:50] <SinnerG> pff :p
[12:50] <Crippy-Boy> BlueEagle, So what, because i need to use linux for collage i shouldnt be here? Well pat yourself on the back, You've just destroyed my idea of that the ubuntu community wasnt made up of eletists, If i wanted this kind of response i would use gentoo
[12:51] <Kirby904> Sorry.
[12:51] <lsc> i only have the vga server driver
[12:51] <lgc> gnomefreak: not that I know of...my networking just doesn't function anymore (and I didn't mess with it!)
[12:51] <Crippy-Boy> Need to use windows for college*
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Kirby904: use pastebin please
[12:51] <BlueEagle> crippy-boy: No, don't get me wrong.
[12:51] <odyssevs> tamacracker, magical stuff.
[12:51] <Kirby904> Yes, ok
[12:51] <odyssevs> tamacracker, standby, we'll whip you a basic firewall up.
[12:51] <BlueEagle> crippy-boy: I just do not understand why you are here if you are not at all enclined to make linux fit your needs.
[12:51] <tamacracker> odyssevs sweet
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ah lsc install xserver-xorg-driver-all
[12:52] <gnomefreak> lgc: sorry it was lsc that needed it
[12:52] <holycow> guys, can you please lay off Crippy-Boy
[12:52] <holycow> jesus f christ
[12:52] <BlueEagle> crippy-boy: And frankly, with your approach to support channel I guess you'll meet that attitude anywhere you go.
[12:52] <holycow> we need visible ops here banning people
[12:52] <holycow> BlueEagle, shut the f up
[12:52] <lsc> do i doa sudo apt-get install
[12:52] <gnomefreak> holycow: with language like that i will
[12:52] <Crippy-Boy> BlueEagle, Its not about *MY* needs, if it was and i could dictate to what i use then i would. But unfortunatly i have to answer to tutors, who in the end decide upon my grade
[12:52] <lsc> do i doa sudo apt-get install  xserver-xorg-driver-all
[12:52] <holycow> gnomefreak, ah yes ban for a letter sweet
[12:52] <gnomefreak> lsc: yes
[12:52] <Kirby904> When opening menu.1st with sudo gedit, nothing shows in the text editor.
[12:52] <lgc> gnomefreak: but maybe you can help me anyway!
[12:53] <gnomefreak> Kirby904: menu.lst not a 1
[12:53] <BlueEagle> crippy-boy: Please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic so we can continue this discussion.
[12:53] <Crippy-Boy> BlueEagle, With this attitude? I asked a simple question about an mbr and 5 people jumped on me with the 'wtf do you wanna run windoze for, do this, do that' no matter how much i explained that i had no choice.
[12:53] <Kirby904> oh =/
[12:53] <gnomefreak> lgc: wireless?
[12:53] <holycow> at least i got your attention, guys lets be a wee bit more supportive.  there are thousands of reasons to use linux in thousands of configurations, its all good
[12:53] <gnomefreak> Crippy-Boy: what is your question
[12:53] <avagant> my computer is running really slow, and i have no idea why.
[12:53] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, pls drop it, i don't think they meant to really attack you, its all good
[12:53] <lgc> gnomefreak: that's another problem, but let's concentrate on eth0
[12:53] <BlueEagle> crippy-boy: I am sorry, but I did not catch your first question. All I caught was your big rant.
[12:53] <Kirby904> when moving windows xp to the top of the list, i can just cut and paste on top of ubuntu right?
[12:53] <sivik> Crippy-Boy, i didn't say that, i just said you can run a bunch of that stuff with either wine or crossover
[12:54] <Crippy-Boy> gnomefreak, no worries, its sorted
[12:54] <lsc> after that then what ?
[12:54] <holycow> :)
[12:54] <cafuego> Kirby904: yep
[12:54] <Crippy-Boy> holycow, Will do.
[12:54] <gnomefreak> Crippy-Boy: ok
[12:54] <fourat> how to monitor an application to see wich file it's reading/writing, something like file monitoring
[12:54] <cafuego> Kirby904: To *before* the automagic kernels list stuff,
[12:54] <Crippy-Boy> BlueEagle, Its ok, My rant was in response to people not listening to my reasons.
[12:54] <Crippy-Boy> sivik, no worries, crossed wires then, but it didnt help that you wasnt the only on :-)
[12:54] <Crippy-Boy> Discussion over :-)
[12:55] <sivik> o
[12:55] <sivik> ok
[12:55] <lsc> gnomefreek then what after i install then files
[12:55] <Kirby904> behind the ### Begin Automagic Kernels List line?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> lsc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and goo through it till you get to the drivers part and choose intel
[12:55] <lgc> gnomefreak: any ideas?
[12:55] <odyssevs> tamacracker, now, you're receiving this as a prototype. It will need modifying, but the general theme of iptables is fairly easy to follow. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25608/
[12:55] <cafuego> Kirby904: Just above it
[12:56] <zmo> well sound is working again
[12:56] <gnomefreak> lgc: can you ping anything?
[12:56] <zmo> did it the lame way :/
[12:56] <cafuego> Kirby904: Otheriwse it'll get deleted when the kernel is updated.
[12:56] <lsc> ok
[12:56] <zmo> gn all
[12:56] <lgc> gnomefreak: no. 100% loss.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> lgc: what card is it?
[12:56] <sureshot> does anyone know how compatible wine is to cedega from transgamming.com
[12:56] <Kirby904> Oh ok thanks.
[12:56] <lgc> gnomefreak: how do I find out?
[12:56] <ricky> hey some body know you install java to links
[12:56] <ricky> ?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> lgc: lspci  should list the nic card
[12:56] <tamacracker> odyssevs do you need me to copy and paste that onto the terminal?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ricky: to links?
[12:57] <ricky> ya
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ricky: you mean links the browser
[12:57] <RickH> Crippy-Boy, what linux distro you run?
[12:57] <ricky> yeah
[12:57] <cafuego> ricky: It wouldn't surprise me at all if that wasn't possible.
[12:57] <ellioTb> whats up guys, whats a good app for managing wireless LAN besides the one in the ubuntu Add/Remove
[12:57] <ellioTb> cause that one hates me
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ricky: im thinking you cant since its not a gui browser
[12:57] <odyssevs> tamacracker, the idea is that $IPTABLES -A INPUT -s 123.456.789.0/24 -j REJECT, will reject the ip range 123.456.789.* (ie, all 256 class C ips).
[12:57] <Chm0d> can anyone in here tell me why i get command not found when i use deb?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Chm0d: what is the command
[12:58] <lgc> gnomefreak: since I'm in Windoze now, I would like to know what else to try when I reboot to Breezy...
[12:58] <tamacracker> whoa...
[12:58] <ricky> so can i installer in lynx
[12:58] <redguy> Chm0d: perhaps because there is no such command as "deb"
[12:58] <odyssevs> tamacracker, good god no. It probably will work if you put it into an rc.firewall file, chmod o+x it and execute. But I wouldn't, since you don't need a nat. Read the iptables manual.. it's full of handy tricks.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ricky: java is not compatible with text browsers
[12:58] <Chm0d> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu did my updates installed kde and tried installing xgl/compiz
[12:58] <ricky> ok
[12:58] <Chm0d> hmm
[12:58] <cafuego> ricky: No, only browser that use the X toolkit *and* are netscape plugin compatble
[12:58] <ellioTb> chm0d, i think if it gives you deb on a how-to
[12:59] <ellioTb> chm0d, that you are supposed to add it to your sources.list
[12:59] <ellioTb> not use it in the terminal
[12:59] <gnomefreak> lgc: find drivers for the nick card when you find out what card it is go to the following link
[12:59] <tamacracker> odyssevs just a quick question is there a "program" GUI interface that can do all this without scripting? :D
[12:59] <lgc> gnomefreak: I suppose I can figure that out on Windoze too, am I right?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[12:59] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:59] <ricky> ok
[12:59] <odyssevs> tamacracker, you want basically to have a list of nefarious IPs generated based on certain traffic from them (easy in the case of flooding).
[12:59] <avagant> !Help
[12:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:59] <ricky> where can i get that?
[12:59] <odyssevs> tamacracker, absolutely.
[12:59] <gnomefreak> lgc: yes should be in device or whatever its called
[12:59] <avagant> WOuld it be ok to delete python 2.3 without harming python 2.4?
[12:59] <lgc> gnomefreak: was that for me?
[12:59] <cafuego> ricky: firefox should work ok.
[12:59] <ellioTb> Chm0d, do this in console "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:59] <ellioTb> and add that deb line there
[12:59] <ricky> yeah
[12:59] <gnomefreak> lgc: the hardware was
[12:59] <odyssevs> tamacracker, but I mean you'll miss the fun stuff, like -j MIRROR (swaps the source/dest ips of packets).
[01:00] <Chm0d> thank you
[01:00] <lgc> gnomefreak: the hardware is OK, this is the proof.
[01:00] <dmglouis_> my internet doesn't work, can someone help?
[01:00] <odyssevs> tamacracker, apt-cache search iptables
[01:00] <tamacracker> odyssevs ah I would like to get a userfriendly program....  I dont understand "swaps the source/destination IPs of packets"
[01:00] <ellioTb> Chm0d, no prob
[01:00] <Phlosten> dmglouis_: the internet is evil, run now
[01:00] <gnomefreak> lgc: but the hardware link above will show you what nic cards are supported and how they work (if you need drivers and so on)
[01:00] <cafuego> dmglouis_: it's not yours, it belongs to all of us. And it's working fine ;-)
[01:01] <avagant> i just did apt-get clean is that gonna kill me?
[01:01] <ellioTb> anyone got a good WLAN manager though, besides having to go to networking and do it all manually through that
[01:01] <odyssevs> tamacracker: uruk - Very small firewall script, for configuring iptables
[01:01] <gnomefreak> avagant: no
[01:01] <dmglouis_> can someone help connect to the internet
[01:01] <redguy> !firewall
[01:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[01:01] <tamacracker> i see
[01:01] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: can you ping any internet host?
[01:01] <dmglouis_> nope
[01:01] <Phlosten> cafuego: there might be some g'ment officials who would say otherwise ;)
[01:01] <redguy> huh? what happened to shorewall?
[01:01] <odyssevs> tamacracker: knetfilter - GUI for configuring the 2.4 kernel IP Tables [KDE I think.] 
[01:01] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: not even an IP address (!= name)?
[01:01] <dmglouis_> nope
[01:01] <cafuego> Phlosten: Al Gore can bite me
[01:01] <CaptainMorgan> thank you holycow !! oh my how I miss Gnome
[01:02] <odyssevs> tamacracker, here we go, try this one, gnome-lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (GNOME interface)
[01:02] <tamacracker> is there a Gnome version?
[01:02] <we2by> !xfce
[01:02] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <tamacracker> sweet
[01:02] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: what kind of physical connection do you have (DSL, analogue, ISDN, cable, ...)
[01:02] <ricky> how can i install shockwave in firefox
[01:02] <dmglouis_> CosmoDad: cable
[01:02] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, you are most welcome.  i have nothing against kde, i just like my gnome too
[01:02] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: but i connect thru router
[01:02] <cafuego> !RestrictedFormats > ricky
[01:02] <CaptainMorgan> same here mang
[01:02] <lgc> gnomefreak: I am not trying your patience here, but I didn't install anything and everything was working fine before I needed to reboot in Windoze (and I think Windoze is not the bad guy either). Do you see any point in reviewing hardware or driver issues?
[01:02] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: is your router connected?
[01:02] <sivik> ricky: you have to have the multiverse repo on and then sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:02] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: yea its fine, im on it right now
[01:03] <cafuego> ricky: that page contains links to info on java/flash and video in firefox.
[01:03] <ibob63> my internet has become really slow on my ubuntu installation. how should I diagnose the problem?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> lgc: see you didnt tell me any of this so i dont know it :)
[01:03] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: did you specify your LAN router as the default router on your Ubuntu box?
[01:03] <lgc> gnomefreak: now you know.
[01:03] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: huh?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> lgc: did you do updates before you rebooted to windows
[01:03] <avagant> gnomefreak: so it won't hurt me in any way?
[01:03] <lgc> gnomefreak: no.
[01:03] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you have to tell Ubuntu to use your router by default when there's data destined for the Internet
[01:03] <gnomefreak> avagant: no
[01:03] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: the ehternet connection is the default yes
[01:03] <ricky> i have java and flash player installer but i need to instar shockwave
[01:03] <fourat> how to monitor an application to see wich file it's reading/writing, something like file monitoring
[01:03] <gnomefreak> lgc: and you net works in windows not in ubuntu?
[01:04] <cafuego> ricky: There is no shockwave for Linux.
[01:04] <sivik> ricky, shockwave is flash
[01:04] <lgc> gnomefreak: yes.
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ricky: you cant
[01:04] <cafuego> sivik: It's not.
[01:04] <Admiral_Chicago> fourat, /lock?
[01:04] <ricky> ok
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ricky: flash/shockwave
[01:04] <sivik> cafuego, well, it does the same thing more of less, didn't mean for it come out like that
[01:04] <ricky> ok
[01:04] <gnomefreak> cafuego: installing flash gives you shockwave
[01:04] <ricky> thanx
[01:04] <fourat> Admiral_Chicago, /lock ?
[01:04] <ellioTb> can i switch to xubuntu really easy?
[01:04] <cafuego> gnomefreak: No, it really doesn't.
[01:04] <sivik> ellioTb, yes
[01:04] <gnomefreak> i have shockwave support in FF
[01:04] <ellioTb> and what if i want to switch back to gnome
[01:04] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: can you ping your router?
[01:04] <ellioTb> cause this comp is an older laptop, and seems to be running slow
[01:04] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:05] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: nope
[01:05] <sivik> ellioTb, you just tell your xdm/kdm/gdm to use that as the current session
[01:05] <avagant> gnomefreak: So my computer is lagging alot, is there something wrong here? haha
[01:05] <tamacracker> odyssev sweet!
[01:05] <ellioTb> its a 2.2ghz w/only 256mb of ram
[01:05] <gnomefreak> application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
[01:05] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok, you sure that your router does accept pings?
[01:05] <tamacracker> this is what i was speakin of!
[01:05] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Shockwave Flash != Shockwave
[01:05] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: yea
[01:05] <ellioTb> sivik, is that easy to switch?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:05] <cafuego> gnomefreak: No, they are different things.
[01:05] <dmglouis_> coosmodad: i just reinstalled ubuntu and last time it worked fine
[01:05] <sivik> ellioTb, yes, very much so, you know when you login
[01:05] <sivik> ellioTb, you can tell it what session type to use
[01:05] <cafuego> gnomefreak: flash sucks, whereas shockwave is mainly cool ;-)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> ah ok thought it was same just for non macs
[01:06] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: have you set up a static IP address for your Ubuntu box or do you use dhcp?
[01:06] <ellioTb> sivik, thanks, i am going to have to check it out, see if it runs this faster
[01:06] <maxamillion> is it possible to make X forward over ssh in ubuntu?
[01:06] <Chm0d> what is gset-compiz guys?  i can't find that package
[01:06] <cafuego> maxamillion: of course
[01:06] <gnomefreak> maxamillion: yes use the -x option i think
[01:06] <CosmoDad> maxamillion: sure
[01:06] <ellioTb> sivik, so you can do the same thing with KDE huh
[01:06] <maxamillion> cafuego: i can't seem to get it to work
[01:06] <cpk2> does smp preempt mean smp is off?
[01:06] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: if I say dhcp, it doesn't select it as default, whereas the static ip is not working
[01:06] <maxamillion> gnomefreak: that works on my debian box, but not my ubuntu machine
[01:06] <gnomefreak> or thats to not use X its been so long since i used ssh
[01:06] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: what do you mean by it doesn't select it by default?
[01:06] <sivik> ellioTb, yes
[01:07] <cafuego> maxamillion: Did you check the X11Forward option in sshd_config?
[01:07] <maxamillion> cafuego: sure did
[01:07] <gnomefreak> maxamillion: when your there just run gnome or kde or whatever from termminal it should load it
[01:07] <birdfish> When installing ubuntu, does it ask for network configuration information before or after installing the system (note this is while installing without the gui)
[01:07] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: when I go to "Networking", there's no default seleced
[01:07] <ellioTb> sivi, thanks, that is awsome, i hope it will run xfce faster than this gnome
[01:07] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: have you tried Ubuntu's network manager to set and check your configuration?
[01:07] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: *selected
[01:07] <lgc> gnomefreak: any idea?
[01:07] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: yea thats it
[01:08] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: pastebin "ifconfig eth0"
[01:08] <gnomefreak> lgc: not off hand.
[01:08] <cafuego> maxamillion: I have on occasion has some VERY weird X forward issues (but only on Debian sofar) where it wouls refuse to work (at all) until I purged ssh and reinstalled it.
[01:08] <Chm0d> anyone?
[01:08] <knut_> hello..
[01:08] <Chm0d> hello
[01:08] <lgc> gnomefreak: what oracle should I resort to now?
[01:08] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: i dont know how i'll paste it here
[01:08] <ellioTb> sivik, will it run the same gnome apps? or do i have toge t xcfe apps
[01:08] <knut_> i installed the nvidia drivers yet, and know my fonts are everywhere smaller than before
[01:08] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: im on a different computer
[01:08] <knut_> its very hard to read
[01:09] <knut_> how can i change it?
[01:09] <avagant> My computer is running like it's in the dark ages.
[01:09] <blind> I *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.
[01:09] <knut_> its not only when im logged in, its in login screen too.. everywhere where x puts text out
[01:09] <lgc> gnomefreak: is there anything like network utility reconfiguration commands?
[01:09] <Chm0d> knut have you changed resolution?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> lgc: ifconfig
[01:09] <knut_> no Chm0d its the same
[01:09] <infinito> doen anyone know why having libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed i can't read a dvd using totem-xine??
[01:09] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: is this machine you're using right now in the same LAN as the ubuntu box?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> lgc: gnome-network-manager
[01:09] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: yea
[01:10] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: can you ping the ubuntu box?
[01:10] <knut_> someone said me i should change the DPI but dont know what he mean Chm0d
[01:10] <pianoboy3333> sivik: you there?
[01:10] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: the request timed out
[01:10] <Knifa> hi, i've just managed to get ubuntu installed on my core 2 duo system (to an IDE drive from an IDE cd-rom) using the latest beta, the install went perfectly and there was no errors while it was installing, but now when I boot it won't detect the drive again, or atleast it won't mount it, so I can't get in :(
[01:10] <Knifa> anyone know what i can do to fix it?
[01:10] <gnomefreak> bbiab
[01:11] <MagicFab> Knifa, is the hD IDE ?
[01:11] <lgc> gnomefreak: gnomefreak gnome-network-manager reinstalls anything? Or it just asks you for options like DNS vs fixed IP and so on?
[01:11] <Knifa> yeah the hard drive is IDE
[01:11] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok then, seems like you don't have a (proper) IP address assigned to your Ubuntu box...
[01:11] <blind> Knifa: can you mount the drive manually?
[01:11] <Knifa> no idea
[01:11] <CorpseFeeder> I lost my connection and had to reboot
[01:11] <Knifa> i can't get in to try :S
[01:11] <Knifa> and i dunno any other way.
[01:11] <ellioTb> will the GDM login let you select between gnome and xfce
[01:11] <Chm0d> dpi dots per inch?  I would think he meant the resolution
[01:11] <Phlosten> ellioTb: yes
[01:11] <CorpseFeeder> what does it mean when you have a blank black screen with blinking cursor in top left and the caps lock and scroll lock on the keyboard is blinking?
[01:11] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: try this on your linux box: "sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0"
[01:12] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: then try to ping your router again
[01:12] <MagicFab> Knifa, can you access the BIOS ? Can you check the specs to know if you're booting from IDE or SATA ?
[01:12] <Knifa> MagicFab it's booting from IDE
[01:12] <ellioTb> Phlosten, thanks, also will it run gnome apps? or do i have to get new ones for when i am in xfce
[01:12] <blind> CorpseFeeder: means switch your mouse and keyboard. afaik.
[01:12] <MagicFab> Knifa, what's the exact error ?
[01:12] <knut_> no Chm0d he means dpi
[01:12] <Phlosten> ellioTb: it will still run most gnome apps
[01:12] <blind> CorpseFeeder: like, they're plugged in the wrong PS/2 ports.
[01:12] <Knifa> MagicFab it boots to GRUB, starts loading a bit, then dies at "Being: loading root file system" (or something like that)
[01:12] <MagicFab> Knifa, when botting from the CD and choosing "boot from first HD", can you boot ?
[01:12] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: and give your user's password if prompted
[01:12] <Phlosten> ellioTb: most apps will run in kde/gnome/xfce etc
[01:12] <knut_> he said i should change the dpi in the ".Xressources" file
[01:13] <ellioTb> Phlosten, thanks, i am a total noob at this stuff right now
[01:13] <Knifa> MagicFab i havn't tried that, but i don't think it'll work since it isn't detected my drive.
[01:13] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: yea its still busy
[01:13] <MagicFab> Knifa, get the exact text of the error, Google will most likely help
[01:13] <Knifa> *detecting
[01:13] <CorpseFeeder> they're not in the wrong ports.
[01:13] <MagicFab> and we can lookinto kaunchpad
[01:13] <avagant> Is it possible to delete the kubuntu desktop without screwing anything up?
[01:13] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:its done now
[01:13] <lgc> gnomefreak: gnome-network-manager reinstalls anything? Or it just asks you for options like DNS vs fixed IP and so on?
[01:13] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: did you get an IP address?
[01:13] <MagicFab> Knifa, if the drive wasn't detected, you wouldn't even get to grub
[01:13] <ellioTb> Phlosten, i did the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, once thats done will i be able to pick when i login, after a reboot or ctrl+alt+bckspc
[01:13] <avagant> my computer is running like i have 1gb left.
[01:13] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: like the last line looking like you were assigned such an IP address?
[01:13] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: you mean in terminal?
[01:14] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: yeah
[01:14] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: no
[01:14] <Knifa> MagicFab it's something to do with the IDE controller on core 2 duo motherboards
[01:14] <avagant> i think kde killed my hd leftover.
[01:14] <CorpseFeeder> it seems to do it when i use hibernate... I get the blinking keyboard LEDs and blank screen and have to press reset button.
[01:14] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: if pinging still doesn't work, what does the last line of the terminal output say?
[01:14] <avagant> cause now my computer is running like it's in the stone ages.
[01:14] <knut_> any idea Chm0d ?
[01:14] <lgc> gnomefreak: yoo-hoo!
[01:14] <Phlosten> ellioTb: that is correct, you click session or something like that and pick xfce and then you can tell it just for that session or all the time etc
[01:14] <Knifa> the latest daily build was supposed to fix it
[01:14] <Knifa> the installer works
[01:14] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: it just went back to the normal prompt with [user] @computer:
[01:14] <Knifa> but it won't boot.
[01:15] <ellioTb> Phlosten, awsome, thanks man
[01:15] <MagicFab> Knifa, at the risk of repeating... you wouldn't see anything near to GRUB if IDE wasn't detecting
[01:15] <MagicFab> probable the partition' s order / dev names have changed
[01:15] <Knifa> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/57502
[01:15] <Knifa> it's here
[01:15] <Knifa> it's this problem.
[01:15] <sureshot>  !wine
[01:15] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:15] <blind> I *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.
[01:15] <avagant> !xubuntu
[01:15] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:15] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: I really need some configuration information of yours... please open /etc/network/interfaces and look up a "eth0" section
[01:15] <avagant> !kde
[01:15] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:16] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: it should start with "iface eth0"
[01:16] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you don't have multiple network cards in your Ubuntu machine, do you?
[01:16] <avagant> Maybe those 150 some packages that came with kde killed my computer.
[01:16] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: yes
[01:16] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you do have?
[01:16] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: i have a wireless usb
[01:16] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:but I disabled that
[01:16] <MagicFab> Knifa, that bug refers to SATA, not to IDE
[01:16] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you should pull the cable while testing
[01:17] <Knifa> MagicFab: the IDE runs off the same controller
[01:17] <avagant> it's taking 3 years for me to load up any programs.
[01:17] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: I mean the "USB-cable"
[01:17] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:let me try that
[01:17] <Knifa> it's something to do with the Jmicron PATA controller that is on the motherboard I have, other people are having the same problem, but apperntly the latest daily build is supposed to fix it. The installer works (unlike the stable releases) but when it actually tries to boot and mount the drive, it doesn't work. so i'm wondering if there's anything special i need to do to get it to work
[01:17] <avagant> can you ping on kde.
[01:17] <ellioTb> with IDE, there was a bug going around, for me to even install ubuntu i had to do "ide=nodma" in GRUB boot options
[01:17] <ellioTb> some people had to do ide=reverse or something like that as well
[01:17] <avagant> or rather ubuntu can you ping the entire program?
[01:18] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: and tell me what the line beginning with "iface eth0" in that interfaces-file exactly looks like
[01:18] <Crippy-Boy> :-/
[01:18] <MagicFab> Knifa, I'd check elliotb' s suggestions, out of ideas here
[01:18] <Knifa> kay
[01:18] <blind> avagant: ping a program?
[01:18] <avagant> like in windows when you go to run and type ping.
[01:18] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: iface eth0 inet static
[01:19] <avagant> can you do that with ubuntu?
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> avagant, command line, terminal
[01:19] <ellioTb> Knifa, try pressing F6 when you get to grub, and add the option ide=nodma and press enter
[01:19] <ellioTb> i'll brb
[01:19] <blind> avagant: just open a terminal, and type ping.
[01:19] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: address 192.168.2.132
[01:19] <avagant> Didn't work
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> avagant, the command is still ping
[01:19] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:netmask 255.255.255.0
[01:19] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok, what's the address of the box you're on right now?
[01:19] <Knifa> kay
[01:19] <blind> avagant: define didn't work.
[01:19] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:192.168.2.132
[01:19] <avagant> i typed in ping and it's giving me a list of commands to go with ping
[01:19] <thenakedcowboy> i need some help with installing packages
[01:20] <avagant> i just need to find out why my computer is suddenly running so sluggish
[01:20] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you can't have two machines within the same LAN with the very same IP address
[01:20] <blind> avagant: what are you trying to ping?
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> avagant, try this "ping 10.122.12.12"
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> no quotes
[01:20] <thenakedcowboy> i am a compleat linux n00b
[01:20] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:i dont
[01:20] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: wait sorry uh let me check
[01:20] <Crippy-Boy> thenakedcowboy, What are you trying to install, Or just in general?
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> thenakedcowboy, what package?
[01:20] <txoof> what is the meta package for the ubuntu desktop environemnt?
[01:20] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:192.168.2.153
[01:20] <MagicFab> txoof, ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> txoof, ubuntu-desktop iirc
[01:20] <Crippy-Boy> ubuntu-desktop?
[01:20] <avagant> my computer just pretty much died on me.
[01:21] <avagant> i could run more than one program without lag, and all the sudden there's a ton of lag.
[01:21] <speud> hello
[01:21] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok... type, in a shell: ifconfig eth0|head -n 2|tail -n 1
[01:21] <speud> some french here ?
[01:21] <avagant> it takes about 2 minutes to just open up something.
[01:21] <blind> avagant, that has nothing to do with ping.
[01:21] <Admiral_Chicago> avagant, you may have a memory leak
[01:21] <avagant> Oh I know, but in windows it would irmpove it a bit.
[01:21] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: does it display the IP address 192.168.2.132?
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !fr > speud
[01:22] <blind> avagant: no it wouldn't O_o
[01:22] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: do i type in the |
[01:22] <avagant> Well...it was wishful thinking.
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> avagant, what do you run?
[01:22] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: hold "alt-gr" and press the "<>" key (lower left on a german keyboard)
[01:22] <avagant> Ubuntu? Haha
[01:22] <txoof> can I remove all the refering packages via a meta package?  e.g. I installed ubuntu-desktop and now want to remove all that was dependant on it.  Is there a way to do that?
[01:22] <blind> avagant, open a terminal, type ps aux and find out what's using all your memory.
[01:22] <avagant> DO you mean programs?
[01:22] <Crippy-Boy> What does ping have to do with your computer lagging?
[01:22] <Phlosten> txoof: only one by one afaik
[01:22] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: or just type "ifconfig eth0" and check the second line
[01:23] <blind> Crippy-Boy: it doesn't.
[01:23] <ellioTb> can't really tell if XFCE is faster
[01:23] <ellioTb> hrmmm
[01:23] <keegan_> I just downloaded Conky and its pretty sweet, but I was wondering if there is a way I can show what I am playing inside Amarok on my Desktop just like Conky shows how my system is going?  Anyone know how to do that or direct me in a direction would be really cool
[01:23] <blind> keegan, try #conky
[01:23] <ellioTb> they need like a gnome/kde/xfce benchmark
[01:23] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: ok i got it: inet addr:192.168.2.132  Bcast:192.168.2.255   Mask: 255.255.255.0
[01:23] <lgc> cafuego: You familiar with networking problems (eth0 is dead after a reboot and no updates or messing around with parameters)?
[01:24] <Crippy-Boy> blind, Just what i was thinking :-/
[01:24] <txoof> Is there a way I can get apt to spit out all the packages that are refered to by a meta package?  I can then use that to remove everything...
[01:24] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok this looks like your machine is correctly configured with respect to IP address
[01:24] <avagant> I don't know what's making it run so bad.
[01:24] <speud> what do i write to go ubuntu-fr ?
[01:24] <blind> avagant, open a terminal, type `ps aux`
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> ellioTb, i hear KDE runs fster than GNOME
[01:24] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: are the cables connected correctly?
[01:24] <speud> no gnome is faster kde
[01:24] <avagant> That's what I did.
[01:24] <sureshot> does anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine
[01:24] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: yes
[01:24] <ellioTb> Admiral_Chicago, does it really? i heard the opposite
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> speud, /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:25] <blind> it should tell you how much everything is using.
[01:25] <avagant> blind: That's what I did but I can't really see what's making it go crazy.
[01:25] <blind> pastebin it.
[01:25] <ellioTb> speud, how about xfce vs. gnome, i am having a hard time telling
[01:25] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: it was just working before I reinstalled ubuntu
[01:25] <Knifa> nah that didn't work either
[01:25] <blind> ellioTb: if you want fast, go with fluxbox :] 
[01:25] <Knifa> i think i'll just need to wait till a fix is released that works
[01:25] <ellioTb> blind, really? whats that, and where do i get!
[01:25] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: not sure what the reinstallation changed... type "route -n" and tell me if there are any entries
[01:25] <motin> Updated: http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToComfortablySwitchFromWindowsToUbuntu  I appreciate feedback and impromptu corrections (the wiki is open for everyone)
[01:26] <blind> ellioTb: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:26] <avagant> !pastebin
[01:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:26] <ellioTb> well thats easy enough
[01:26] <blind> ellioTb: it might be confusing to a novice, though. make sure you read the documentation :] 
[01:26] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: how do do a line break without actually sending the message?
[01:26] <lgc> nalioth: you there?
[01:26] <ellioTb> blind, to a novice? or a semi-noob like me
[01:26] <sureshot> does anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine
[01:26] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: in IRC?
[01:27] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you can't, but use pastebin for that
[01:27] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: well i have trillian
[01:27] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: pastebin?
[01:27] <blind> ellioTb: both. i love it, but it's not the easiest to work with.
[01:27] <CosmoDad> !tell dmglouis_ about pastebin
[01:28] <avagant> blind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25609/
[01:28] <ellioTb> blind, well this comp is a 2.2ghz with 256m of ram with an ati radeon (laptop btw) and it seems SOOO slow in gnome
[01:28] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you'd paste the multi-line content within http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me the URL
[01:28] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: this is going to take some time
[01:28] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: wait
[01:28] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: are you going to paste the route output?
[01:28] <Crippy-Boy> ellioTb, Install Fbdesk and fluxconf with it, should make it a bit easier.
[01:28] <dmglouis_> not paste but type
[01:28] <ellioTb> Crippy-Boy, thanx
[01:29] <orinoco> hi
[01:29] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: there's an easier way...
[01:29] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:what?
[01:29] <orinoco> when is ubuntu dapper supposed to be out?
[01:29] <sureshot> ellioTb what modle is your card
[01:29] <ellioTb> sureshot, 350M
[01:29] <orinoco> no dapper, the nexto one :(
[01:29] <lgc> hedix:
[01:29] <ellioTb> orinoco, i am in dapper
[01:29] <ellioTb> heh
[01:29] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: look at /etc/network/interfaces again, look up the "iface eth0" section and tell me whether there's a "gateway <IP address> entry below it
[01:29] <cpk2> i got the 686 kernel but cant tell how to double check that it isnt using SMP?
[01:29] <sureshot> elliotb do you know if it is fglrx compaitble
[01:30] <Crippy-Boy> cpk2, uname -a?
[01:30] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:there is
[01:30] <orinoco> ellioTb, i meant the new one, knot ?
[01:30] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: what's the IP address?
[01:30] <orinoco> how is its name?
[01:30] <orinoco> edgy eft
[01:30] <ellioTb> sureshot, it isn't when i tried last last, said no devices when i change it from ati to fglrx
[01:30] <orinoco> thats it
[01:30] <avagant> watch he leaves as soon as i try to get some help. heh
[01:30] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: 192.168.2.1
[01:30] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: and does it equal your router's address?
[01:30] <cpk2> Crippy-Boy: says SMP PREEMPT I have no idea what that means
[01:30] <orinoco> then, when is edgy eft suposed to be out ????
[01:30] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:yes
[01:30] <sureshot> checke this out
[01:30] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok. do you have any firewalls running?
[01:30] <ellioTb> programs just seem to take FOREVER to start, but then run fine
[01:30] <sureshot> !nividia
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <sureshot> !nvidia
[01:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:31] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:on this computer
[01:31] <avagant> my programs are taking 10 years to load up too.
[01:31] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: no on the Ubuntu machine
[01:31] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:no
[01:31] <vjacob> is there a powerpc/mac ubuntu channel?
[01:31] <sureshot> ellioTb check this out it will tell you if your card is and give you instrucktions on how to install
[01:31] <blind> avagant: not sure whats eating everything up :\
[01:31] <Razor-> Hey does anyone here use gaim for there msn account
[01:31] <keegan_> I do
[01:31] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:and my router control panel shows the ubuntu box as connected
[01:32] <ellioTb> Razor-, i couldn't get it to work for mine, prolly just forgot my pas
[01:32] <avagant> well it seems overnight my gb went down
[01:32] <Razor-> i block someone and i cant unblock them do you know how lol
[01:32] <avagant> i have like 4.3gb out of 10 left.
[01:32] <avagant> maybe i should uninstall kde even though it's amazing and I like it.
[01:32] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: it does? ok, then it's gotta be a software issue. are you connected via wire or wlan?
[01:32] <blind> Razor-: privacy. check your preferences.
[01:32] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: wire
[01:32] <keegan_> Razor-: I've never blocked anyone before but I believe its Tools>Privacy
[01:32] <Crippy-Boy> avagant, have you got gnome or xfce installed aswell as kde?
[01:33] <sureshot> does anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine
[01:33] <avagant> i've gnome and kde.
[01:33] <ellioTb> Razor-, get new friends?
[01:33] <Crippy-Boy> avagant, Uninstall gnome?
[01:33] <avagant> But I heard it's hard to just uninstall it.
[01:33] <avagant> and wouldn't i have to get all the programs back?
[01:33] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: and you said your two LAN machines cannot ping each other right?
[01:33] <Yono> hi
[01:33] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: like the ubuntu machine cannot ping the windows machine and the other way around
[01:33] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ?
[01:33] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: nope this and ubuntu cant
[01:34] <Crippy-Boy> avagant, I cant really answer that, never tried but it shouldnt be too difficult.
[01:34] <avagant> Crippy-Boy: Someone just said it's a pain.
[01:34] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: type "sudo iptables -L -n" and tell me whether all three policies are set to ACCEPT
[01:34] <Yono> my dual monitors worked during installation and work during bootup, but only one monitor works on my desktop
[01:34] <Yono> can anyone help?
[01:35] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:they are
[01:35] <ellioTb> Yono, what kind of video card
[01:35] <Dekkard> is there anyword of screensaver locking up systems?
[01:35] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: and each chain only(!) contains a line like this: "target     prot opt source               destination" ?
[01:35] <Yono> ellioTb: Nvidia ti4200 w/ ap8x
[01:35] <Yono> lspci -v says its installed fine
[01:35] <malice_> what program can I use to convert pictures that I took to a smaller size so I can email them? The Pictures are around 2 megs a piece
[01:35] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:yes
[01:36] <Yono> but only during bootup do both monitors work
[01:36] <nexsan> anyone know the command to install the build essentials?
[01:36] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok. when you ping your router or the windows host, what does ping return as error message?
[01:36] <avagant> There's one.
[01:36] <w30> malice_, gimp, xv
[01:36] <avagant> Can I kill things from the command line, processes?
[01:36] <malice_> w30: ty
[01:36] <avagant> Or would I have better success doing it from system monitor?
[01:36] <Knifa> okay seems i have to add "all-generic-ide" to get it to work
[01:36] <Knifa> a command rather
[01:36] <Knifa> but how do i do that?
[01:36] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:3 pckts trans, 0 rcvd, +3 errors, 100% packet loss
[01:36] <w30> malice_, xv
[01:37] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: and time 1999ms
[01:37] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: I mean something like "Destination Host Unreachable" ?
[01:37] <nexsan> Anyone know the command to build-essentials?
[01:37] <Crippy-Boy> nexsan, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:37] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:yes
[01:37] <avagant> I don't have bluetooth and in fact I deleted it, but apparently it's still running.
[01:37] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:that too
[01:37] <nexsan> thank you Crippy
[01:37] <blind> I *cannot* get my VNC server working. I run Xvnc, and it tells me a server is already running, but I can't connect to it. Not from my computer, or a separate computer, or even one on the same network. Also, ps aux doesn't show any VNC processes.
[01:37] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: geez...
[01:37] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:what?
[01:38] <Knifa> How do I add the "all-generic-ide" to the kernel? D:
[01:38] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: jesus
[01:38] <w30> malice_, it's an old simple Unix graphics program by John Bradley
[01:38] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: i know it can work, i got it working last time
[01:38] <ellioTb> man, i like this fluxbox
[01:38] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: your prob is either really simple and I can't seem to figure it or really hard
[01:38] <ellioTb> nice and clean
[01:38] <blind> ellioTb:  :D it's wonderful. fully customizable.
[01:38] <Crippy-Boy> ellioTb, Wait till you start messing with the conf files ;-)
[01:38] <avagant> fluxbox?
[01:38] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:last time it was not that hard i dont think
[01:38] <lgc> avagant: there are several possibilities: "kill -9 PID" or, better, "pkill -KILL name"
[01:38] <blind> ellioTb: just make sure you run nautilus with --no-desktop
[01:38] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: what worries me is the fact that it looks correct
[01:39] <vjacob_> is there a powerpc/mac ubuntu channel?
[01:39] <ellioTb> Crippy-Boy, i know, its so simple right now, where are all the confs
[01:39] <nexsan> anyone know a good place to find cedega documentation?
[01:39] <ellioTb> blind, ok, i'll figger out how to do that
[01:39] <Crippy-Boy> ellioTb, Read the fluxbox docs, you'll learn plenty from them
[01:39] <vjacob_> anyone here watch TV on their mac? I am thinking more about analog or DTT than IPTV-based situations...
[01:39] <sureshot> does anyone know if s.w.a.t 3 and 4 will work with wine
[01:40] <ellioTb> Crippy-Boy, alright thanx
[01:40] <avagant> nautilus --no-desktop?
[01:40] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: please do "cat /etc/network/run/ifstate" and tell me how many lines the output gives?
[01:40] <avagant> What does that do?
[01:40] <nexsan> sureshot use cedega
[01:40] <blind> sureshot: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:40] <avagant> I think i might uninstall kubuntu.
[01:40] <Crippy-Boy> sureshot, Just try it, I doubt it though, you might have more luck with cedega
[01:40] <nexsan> i need a cedega manual
[01:40] <avagant> Even though there's alot of really good programs I like.
[01:40] <lgc> avagant: did you read my last post?
[01:40] <avagant> no?
[01:40] <sureshot> you have to pay for cedega and they are snobs on there channel
[01:40] <lgc> avagant: about killing processes...
[01:40] <avagant> oooh
[01:40] <avagant> yah
[01:41] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:no such file
[01:41] <nexsan> you have to pay for cedega?
[01:41] <NickABusey> I plug in an external USB drive, and it shows up in my Dev Manager for like 10 seconds, then disappears from the list again. Any ideas why?
[01:41] <Razor-> what other msn clients are there for ubuntu
[01:41] <nexsan> lol
[01:41] <avagant> It still running pretty slow.
[01:41] <nexsan> i suppose you have to pay for linux as well huh?
[01:41] <nexsan> lol
[01:41] <Crippy-Boy> sureshot, snobs? :P
[01:41] <sureshot> why can you get it with out paying
[01:41] <blind> nexsan, you're on the internet ;)
[01:41] <zircx> hey guys, hows it going, I'm looking to try something new as a desktop enviroment, ubuntu might be the go heh..
[01:41] <nexsan> lol
[01:41] <vjacob__> razor, have you looked at mercury and amsn?
[01:41] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you sure?
[01:41] <nexsan> that's what i'm trying to tell sure
[01:41] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: no typo?
[01:41] <Razor-> no thanks
[01:41] <vjacob__> i think they are both crossplatform
[01:41] <nexsan> this si the internet
[01:41] <nexsan> ....
[01:42] <ellioTb> Crippy-Boy, whats a good site for themes/styles? boxwhore.org?
[01:42] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:ys
[01:42] <blind> ellioTb: yes
[01:42] <sureshot> Crippy-Boy yes as i said was over there yesterday asked a question and got called stupid for my troubles
[01:42] <NickABusey> I plug in an external USB drive, and it shows up in my Dev Manager for like 10 seconds, then disappears from the list again. Any ideas why?
[01:42] <avagant> !fluxbox
[01:42] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[01:42] <nexsan> http://www.gnome-look.org
[01:42] <blind> boxwhore > gnome-look for fluxbox
[01:42] <avagant> How do I delete kubuntu without having any problems?
[01:42] <CCmonster> hey
[01:42] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok... do "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" and change the "iface eth0 inet static" to "iface eth0 inet dhcp"...
[01:42] <ellioTb> blind, this seems 100X faster
[01:42] <CCmonster> whay kind of bluetooth support is there in Ubuntu?
[01:42] <blind> ellioTb: it's wonderful :] 
[01:42] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: save and exit gedit, then do "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"
[01:43] <zircx> blah that was annoying..
[01:43] <lgc> avagant: never try "kill -9 -1"!
[01:43] <avagant> lgc: Why not? Hehe
[01:43] <avagant> I seem to be good at ruining other things.
[01:43] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: and tell me whether you can see a DHCP request attempt and its result
[01:43] <Crippy-Boy> avagant, did you just install it ontop of ubuntu?
[01:43] <lgc> avagant: Wanna try?
[01:43] <avagant> Yah Crippy-Boy I did.
[01:43] <avagant> lgc: No, I'll pass.
[01:43] <nexsan> cedega anyone?
[01:43] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:ok
[01:43] <avagant> lgc: I'll have to keep track of it.
[01:44] <nexsan> before i hit the crack pipe and forget what i was doing...
[01:44] <ellioTb> blind, how do you install these styles, only if its an easy explanation, otherwise i'll go try to look it up
[01:44] <lgc> avagant: you better. But be advised that it'll kill all your processes, in case you need.
[01:44] <blind> ellioTb: move it to ~/.fluxbox/styles
[01:44] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:i still cant ping the router
[01:44] <avagant> I just don't understand why I'm like super slow dude.
[01:44] <ellioTb> blind, unzipped or in the gz
[01:44] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: after you did the ifup-part, did it show a bunch of lines?
[01:44] <avagant> It's faster then it was before, but.
[01:45] <blind> ellioTb: unzipped, but still in individual folders
[01:45] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:ifup?
[01:45] <zircx> I'm looking for to possibly try something new, ubuntu looks like a good option, does the desktop enviroment come with the samba tools for setting up a linux machine that can share with window xp machines? or do those tools come with part of the server installation
[01:45] <avagant> It's like I'm running an old apple or something.
[01:45] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"
[01:45] <ryanakca> how do you set the interval between each image when using image magick? animate *.png  is what I'm using, and they go too fast
[01:45] <Crippy-Boy> avagant, what are your machine specs?
[01:46] <blind> ryanakca: have you read the man file? there's a switch, i think it's -d but im not sure.
[01:46] <jrib> ryanakca: animate -help, says there is a -delay option
[01:46] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: a lot lines just cam now
[01:46] <avagant> I don't know haha.
[01:46] <avagant> I have 2 10 gb hd's..
[01:46] <nexsan> zircx: i have windows on another partition and it sees them fine
[01:46] <nexsan> from the moment i installed
[01:46] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: try pinging again
[01:46] <nexsan> i can access the files, but i can't write to them...
[01:46] <avagant> Crippy-Boy: I got this off Craigslist, I guess I deserve it.
[01:46] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:its still busy
[01:46] <nexsan> i can also copy them onto the linux part.
[01:46] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok
[01:46] <blind> nexsan: is the drive NTFS ?
[01:46] <ellioTb> blind, once they are there, do i do a reconfigure?
[01:47] <jomino> nexsan, do you have windows on ntfs?
[01:47] <ryanakca> blind: jrib: yep, I was reading animate *.png ... never thought to search for the term 'delay'...
[01:47] <blind> ellioTb: they should show up automatically.
[01:47] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: doing dhcpdiscover
[01:47] <blind> right click, then down to styles.
[01:47] <nexsan> jomino yes
[01:47] <zircx> nexsan , you can access the files from windows to linux? but can't write to those files, or vice versa?
[01:47] <nexsan> i have a 320 SATA drive
[01:47] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: the network is unreachable now
[01:47] <avagant> Ok like I said how hard is it to uninstall kubuntu-desktop without screwing everything up?
[01:47] <nexsan> with 200 for windows
[01:47] <nexsan> ntfs
[01:47] <blind> nexsan, linux doesn't yet have full NTFS support.
[01:47] <nexsan> split in two
[01:47] <nexsan> well i'm running xp on ntfs on the same drive
[01:47] <ellioTb> blind, they did thanx, fbdesk is the desktop thing?
[01:48] <nexsan> and i switch between the two
[01:48] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: :/  this wasn't a help. revert the changes (substitute the "dhcp" by "static" again) and do the "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0" again afterwards
[01:48] <blind> nexsan, you didn't install linux on NTFS. a partition was made.
[01:48] <nexsan> i know
[01:48] <jomino> nexsan, thats normal...there is a patch afair but i don't know where to get it and if it works well
[01:48] <nexsan> i didn't say i did
[01:48] <blind> ellioTb: im not sure what fbdesk is.
[01:48] <La_PaRCa> Hey, I f I want to connecto to a windows machine should I use RDP or RDPv5 from the terminal services client?
[01:49] <REALFLEO> is the command a2ensite supporte on ubuntu
[01:49] <overridden> good evening
[01:49] <Alethes> REALFLEO:  yeah, that's an apache thing, not distro specific
[01:49] <zircx> so what's the big difference from having a ubuntu desktop with any other distro for that matter?
[01:49] <avagant> blind: Were you the one who said they'd never tried to uninstall kubuntu-desktop?
[01:49] <sureshot> no it is not a good eve.. but glad you are having one
[01:49] <blind> avagant: no. but i also haven't :P
[01:50] <avagant> I don't have wanna like 3 desktop environments.
[01:50] <nexsan> ubuntu is the name of the distro, it runs Gnome desktop environment
[01:50] <avagant> but i don't want it to ruin anything.
[01:50] <Dr_willis> avagant,  basicially you fire up synaptic and start searching/uninstalling any kde related packages you see
[01:50] <ellioTb> blind, then what do you use for a desktop, or do you just not have one
[01:50] <nexsan> if you like KDE better, get Kubuntu
[01:50] <Dr_willis> it 'shouldent' hurt anything
[01:50] <overridden> whats the security difference between using your router as dns of using the dns from your isp directly ? whats the best thing to do ?
[01:50] <avagant> Dr_willis: Are you serious that could take hours.
[01:50] <REALFLEO> ok cuz  the cobash: a2ensite: command not found
[01:50] <blind> ellioTb: i used to run fluxbox, but now im in gnome. (so i can run beryl <3)
[01:50] <nexsan> i use the dns from my isp
[01:50] <jrib> avagant: removing some important kde library like libqt3-mt should do the trick (or use deborphan)
[01:50] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: now it says no such process
[01:50] <Dr_willis> avagant, Yep. theres no 'quick and easy way ' to do it - UNLESS you installed it with aptitude.
[01:51] <REALFLEO> can I manually put the file in sites-enabled ?
[01:51] <sorush20> hi
[01:51] <zircx> overridden . dns from the isp, only because they've got backup dns servers, or you can use your own with your isp as a back up dns server
[01:51] <blind> hi
[01:51] <avagant> I don't remember how I installed it.
[01:51] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: when does it say that?
[01:51] <Dr_willis> avagant,  theres a web site  that lists the standard packages installed by kubuntu-desktop. but i dont rember the url..
[01:51] <sureshot> blind beryl is very nice
[01:51] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: SIOCDELRT: No such process
[01:51] <avagant> I'm not sure if I used apt or aptitute.
[01:51] <blind> sureshot: sure is :q
[01:51] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: after ifdown and ifup
[01:51] <sorush20> how do I recover a file that I accidentally deleted.. I did sudo rm /etc/modules
[01:51] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok, but you did revert the change?
[01:51] <jrib> Dr_willis, avagant: the website is psychocats or something similar, so googling for kubuntu psychocats should do it
[01:51] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:yea
[01:51] <blind> sorush20: why did you do that? :[
[01:51] <Dr_willis> avagant,  try aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop personally  I never unisntall stuff.
[01:51] <avagant> So if I deleted kubuntu-desktop completely would it ruin gnome and everything else?
[01:52] <sureshot> blind got it working yesterday it was worth the trouble are you xgl or aixgl
[01:52] <avagant> Well I think that's why my computer is running like it's from the stoneage.
[01:52] <sorush20> blind: accident.. I wanted to delte something else..
[01:52] <lgc> sorush20: not many options...
[01:52] <blind> sureshot: xgl.
[01:52] <avagant> Because I have gnome and kde.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> avagant,  kubuntu-desktop is a meta-pacakge - it may not really remove much at all.
[01:52] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: I'm kinda lost right now
[01:52] <Dr_willis> avagant,  if it reloves too much - you can always reinstall stuff.
[01:52] <dmglouis_> cosmodad:lol
[01:52] <zircx> I've become more accustomed to gnome over kde.. which is a nice relief, because i felt as though gnome got lost in their development at one point
[01:52] <avagant> But it came with 150 files Dr_willis
[01:52] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: I'll come over to your place and fix the prob myself ;)
[01:52] <sureshot> blind same here aigxl is  not compatable to my ati card
[01:52] <ellioTb> blind, does the transparency work for everyone in flux, it hates me
[01:52] <Dr_willis> avagant,  and your point is? :)
[01:53] <avagant> I like the Kommand line too in kde.
[01:53] <blind> ellioTb: transparency isn't that big in flux.
[01:53] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: thanks for the help anyway
[01:53] <avagant> But I think it's killing my computer.
[01:53] <blind> sureshot: yeah, i've got an old nvidia card.
[01:53] <pushpop> hi all
[01:53] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you're welcome. oh, one last thing:
[01:53] <nexsan> i'm a gnome
[01:53] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: yes?
[01:53] <Dr_willis> avagant,  i dont see how having kde and gnome both installed would affect the computer
[01:53] <pushpop> are there any 64-bit users in the house?
[01:53] <sorush20> well is there anyway I could undelete the file? surely there must be.
[01:53] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: you didn't set up your router *after* you've booted your ubuntu box did you?
[01:53] <sureshot> blind aigxl is supposed to be compatable to nividia card
[01:53] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: no
[01:54] <zircx> I'm just trying to figure out what the biggest advanatages would be going with ubuntu as a desktop
[01:54] <blind> sureshot: ALL of them? I don't know, I just installed it two days ago. Didn't know anything about it :] 
[01:54] <avagant> Well I don't have many GB on this HD
[01:54] <rylasasin> hi guys i'm having a few problems
[01:54] <zircx> i guess, the bleeding edge software and technology that it has would be an advantage ..
[01:54] <rylasasin> I can't get sound to play from YTMND.com
[01:54] <simpla> hi peoples
[01:54] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: ok. I suggest you reboot your ubuntu box before continuing to fix your problem
[01:54] <avagant> That didn't work at all.
[01:54] <blind> rylasasin: that's because it's flash
[01:54] <sureshot> blind let me find an url i will post it to you in a few ok
[01:54] <dmglouis_> cosmodad: lol im doing it right now
[01:54] <blind> sureshot, sure.
[01:54] <CosmoDad> dmglouis_: :)
[01:55] <theunruled> hihi people, I have a centrino CPU, would I need linux-386 or linux-686?
[01:55] <simpla> is there anyone into development on ubuntu here?
[01:55] <avagant> wait what?
[01:55] <pushpop> i have two separate hard drives, one with ubuntu and the other with Windows XP, I just installed Ubuntu with GRUB but when I boot my system no boot menu is presented to me and it just boots windows
[01:55] <sorush20> asdf
[01:55] <rylasasin> I have the flash plugin I think
[01:55] <avagant> "kubuntu-desktop not installed so not removed?"
[01:55] <pushpop> can anyone help me
[01:55] <sorush20> asdf
[01:55] <nexsan> cause windows has the MBR
[01:55] <avagant> I'm using kde right now.
[01:55] <collier_> Excuse me, I just installed ACCT threw Synaptic Package Manager now how do I access it?
[01:55] <lgc> sorush20: ghjk
[01:55] <nexsan> grub was suppose to be installed on the first drive
[01:55] <avagant> How is it not installed?
[01:55] <zircx> what do people prefer as a standard installation, the server or desktop? and are their many differences from a package install perspective or is it the fact that the server just offers a working LAMP on install
[01:55] <nexsan> what you can do is make the second drive first in the bios
[01:55] <blind> avagant: did you install kde?
[01:56] <pushpop> nexsan: thanks
[01:56] <sorush20> so I have deleted the file /etc/modules how do i get it back
[01:56] <pushpop> will try it
[01:56] <nexsan> ;)
[01:56] <collier_> Excuse me, I just installed ACCT threw Synaptic Package Manager now how do I access it, like what command do I type in terminal????
[01:56] <nexsan> do the boot priority
[01:56] <rylasasin> so what do I need to make YTMND work?
[01:56] <Razor-> what was that mercury messenger what is its file name i cant find it in synaptic
[01:56] <blind> rylasasin: you can install flash 9 with wine.
[01:56] <simpla> zircx: desktop.   Server install is best if you want to setup a console box with server stuff, like web server, etc
[01:56] <nexsan> ftp...
[01:56] <pushpop> i dunno if the boot order meny allows you to specify the drives, i think it just loads whichever one you specify in the bios
[01:57] <pushpop> hopefully that made sense
[01:57] <sureshot> blind are you running dapper or edgy
[01:57] <zircx> simpla, ok, that makes sense, i've already got an independent server running my services at the moment, so I'm really looking for a tidy desktop enviroment
[01:57] <blind> sureshot: dapper
[01:57] <nexsan> you should be able to adjust the boot priority individually, depending on the bios...
[01:57] <zircx> also aixgl / xgl looks like nice eye candy
[01:57] <nexsan> anyone know the package name for xlibs?
[01:57] <nexsan> it's not under xlibs
[01:57] <blind> zircx: oh it is.
[01:57] <bm0nk> Would anyone be able to give me some 1-2-1 advice on setting up prism54usb? ( im using http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/
[01:58] <blind> zircx: it's wonderful eye candy. want some screenshots? xD
[01:58] <zircx> yeah dump a couple please blind
[01:58] <simpla> zircx, install the ubuntu desktop!  Its what I am running now, and its great, with plans to setup a home server using the server install
[01:58] <pushpop> I havent tried it in the BIOS, but in the boot menu when i hit F12 it doesnt seem to specify the individual drives
[01:58] <Dr_willis> nexsan,  its obsolited..  its part of an older package. but no longre really need.
[01:58] <pushpop> maybe im mistaken though
[01:58] <pushpop> wow, this place is busy :-)
[01:58] <nexsan> Dr_willis: cedega is asking for it....
[01:58] <pushpop> im used to IRC channels with 100 people max
[01:58] <Dr_willis> nexsan,  cedega wanted it.. i edited the cedega.deb and removed the dependency.. or the wiki/forums discuss other ways to get around the issue
[01:58] <zircx> blind , does it restrict the ability to play games also?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> nexsan,  cedega is stupid that way. :P ive seen other apps want it as well.
[01:59] <zircx> UT etc etc..
[01:59] <nexsan> cheeses
[01:59] <nexsan> ok
[01:59] <nexsan> now to get around this
[01:59] <rylasasin> I have wine, now how do I get to flash 9?
[01:59] <blind> zircx: not afaik
[01:59] <nexsan> that's why i love linux
[01:59] <nexsan> :o
[01:59] <zircx> k
[01:59] <keegan_> To get the dependecy errors off Cedega deb just use alien to turn it into a .tgz then back to a .deb
[01:59] <CyberSlug> Is there anyone here able to help me with a beagle indexing problem: it seems to freeze on a task, utilising 100% CPU, and doing nothing.
[01:59] <zircx> I knew i owned an xbox for a reason..
[01:59] <nexsan> keegan: you got me
[02:00] <zircx> blind , where are those screenies..
[02:00] <avagant> It's kde.
[02:00] <rylasasin> where do I get flash 9 from here?
[02:00] <avagant> blind: It's more definitley kde that's making my computer slow.
[02:00] <zircx> flash 9, as in the plugin?
[02:00] <avagant> But I cant uninstall it!
[02:00] <rylasasin> yes
[02:00] <DrSpin> !wpa
[02:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:00] <rylasasin> for firefox
[02:01] <bm0nk> Im trying to setup the prism54usb from http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/ - but I'm pretty new to linux so im not 100% sure on what im doing...would anyone be able to help?
[02:01] <blind> zircx: I'll pm em to you
[02:01] <keegan_> Linux doesn't have flash 9
[02:01] <blind> avagant: are you IN kde?
[02:01] <blind> keegan_: you can install it with wine. >_>
[02:01] <rylasasin> yeah but you said you could install it through wine
[02:01] <Dr_willis> avagant,  id like to see your proof that kde is definitley the issue
[02:01] <adam410> Hi, I'm running an ubuntu LAMP server, and I'd like to modify the DHCP settings so that my router (apple airport via eth0) doesn't assign a random internal IP, suck that it is static and ports are always forwarded to it. how do u modify the DHCP settings from $
[02:01] <keegan_> Can you use linux Firefox with flash 9 on wine?
[02:01] <zircx> damn, I'm still on flash 7.0r25
[02:01] <blind> keegan_: yes
[02:02] <avagant> blind: I'm not in kde anymore.
[02:02] <keegan_> You know where I could find a tutorial on that?
[02:02] <avagant> blind: I ctrl alt backspaced
[02:02] <sureshot> blind try this one for started i did not save the one i wanted to send you sorry.. i also wene to the cannels xgl and aixgl and askquestion
[02:02] <nexsan> adam: enter the ip of your router in a web browser window
[02:02] <sureshot> blind http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/
[02:02] <thermionic> anyone here got a working mirrors.list for apt-mirror ?
[02:02] <blind> avagant: then kde isn't slowing you down
[02:02] <nexsan> you should be able to access the router, don't know not a mac guy, but that's how other routers work
[02:02] <avagant> But I was when it was slowing me down.
[02:02] <avagant> Gnome seems to be running fine.
[02:03] <blind> avagant: then don't run kde
[02:03] <avagant> Well duh!
[02:03] <avagant> xD
[02:03] <keegan_> avagant if Gnome and KDE are slow why not us XFCE or Fluxbox.
[02:03] <adam410> nexasn: it uses a mac application for admin, and it doesn't support changing the internal IP from the router, it has to been done via DHCP, i had to go thru this on my mac.
[02:03] <thermionic> adam you need to config the DHCP service on the router, not the client
[02:03] <avagant> keegan_: I can't get kde to uninstall!
[02:03] <collier_> Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?
[02:04] <keegan_> avagant: Did you install it through the Repos?
[02:04] <avagant> I just wish I could install Konsule instead of termial.
[02:04] <adam410> thermionic: this apple router doesnt allow that, it needs to be done from the client
[02:04] <blind> avagant: you can.
[02:04] <JohnNash27892> hello .. i need some help with ubuntu on ibook g4
[02:04] <avagant> I like the black look of the kde terminal.
[02:04] <CyberSlug> keegan_, http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ - That's the url to keep up to date about Flash 9 for linux
[02:04] <Dr_willis> avagant,  you mean konsole ?
[02:04] <JohnNash27892> i cant get the wired network to work
[02:04] <keegan_> CyberSlug: Thanks dude
[02:04] <collier_> Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?
[02:04] <avagant> konsole doesn't show up in gnome?
[02:04] <JohnNash27892> can anybody help ?
[02:05] <avagant> keegan_: I did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I believe.
[02:05] <avagant> I can't remember what I did.
[02:05] <thermionic> I think you actually need to run an apple program on the client to configure the routre
[02:05] <CyberSlug> keegan_, No problem **^^**
[02:05] <blind> avagant, just run it. ALT+F2 konsole
[02:05] <w30>  avagant with gnome-terminal you can change colors with editing profiles for terminal
[02:05] <sorush20> I accidentally deleted my modules file in /etc/ what will happen if I restart the computer?
[02:05] <avagant> yay konsole! ^_^
[02:05] <blind> avagant: :] 
[02:05] <avagant> but anyways, I don't know how to get rid of kde.
[02:06] <collier_> Excuse me, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?
[02:06] <CosmoDad> sorush20: those modules might not get loaded during boot-up
[02:06] <avagant> But everything seems to be running smooth on gnome.
[02:06] <blind> avagant: is it necessary? lol
[02:06] <nexsa1> that's what i get for trying to edit the DHCP while i'm online
[02:06] <nexsa1> :(
[02:06] <holycow> you need to remove the main kde library ... i forget what it is.  ask #kde3
[02:06] <sorush20> CosmoDad: how can i fix this ?
[02:06] <holycow> remove the library and it will remove pretty much all of kde, outside of non de apps
[02:06] <JohnNash27892> anybody help me on enabling network on ibook g4 with ubuntu ?
[02:06] <CosmoDad> sorush20: use your backups. you have backups, right?
[02:06] <avagant> holycow: But if I do that, won't all the programs go bye bye?
[02:06] <holycow> sorush20, it probably wont boot
[02:07] <collier_> Hello, I just INSTALLED ACCT threw Synaptic, Now how do I access it, Like whats the commad in terminal?
[02:07] <holycow> avagant, only the programs as part of kde desktop and those that rely on the libraries
[02:07] <holycow> you can reinstall those later
[02:07] <sorush20> CosmoDad: no I don#t fuxk have back ups
[02:07] <holycow> i'm assuming you have gnome or some other de already installed and working however
[02:07] <jrib> collier_: type 'dpkg -L | grep bin'  that should help
[02:07] <simpla> collier_,  check out http://www.gnu.org/software/acct/manual/html_mono/accounting.html  according to it one of the commands is  'ac' without the quotes
[02:07] <avagant> I do.
[02:07] <jrib> collier_: type 'dpkg -L PACKAGE| grep bin'  that should help
[02:07] <CosmoDad> sorush20: I think your machine will boot anyways, some parts may not work, however
[02:07] <avagant> I'm running gnome and it's working like nothings wrong.
[02:08] <avagant> But in KDE all my stuff is very sluggish.
[02:08] <CosmoDad> sorush20: did you ever make changes to that file yourself?
[02:08] <holycow> sorush20, backup your /home dir, then reinstall
[02:08] <AngelShine> Hi?
[02:08] <blind> avagant: what are the computer specs?
[02:08] <avagant> blind: I really have no idea.
[02:08] <ruzgar> how can i post a new topic in ubuntuforums ?
[02:08] <CosmoDad> holycow: why you think his machine won't work anymore?
[02:08] <ruzgar> i am a member
[02:08] <theunruled> hii, i have a question ^^
[02:08] <ruzgar> of ubuntuforums
[02:08] <blind> ask it
[02:08] <sorush20> CosmoDad: no I didn#t
[02:08] <avagant> blind: I bought it off craigslist.
[02:08] <theunruled> blind: what kernel does centrino need?
[02:08] <zircx_> argh annoying, nice shots btw..
[02:08] <theunruled> 386 or 686
[02:08] <sorush20> holycow: I just have done a new reinstall
[02:08] <nexsa1> 386
[02:08] <avagant> blind: That's kind of why I have Ubuntu in the first place.
[02:08] <CosmoDad> sorush20: then boot from a ubuntu live cd, copy the /etc/modules file and restore it within your HD-booted Ubuntu
[02:09] <theunruled> nexal: oh okay =]  thanks
[02:09] <nexsa1> everything that is not 64 bit needs 386
[02:09] <holycow> CosmoDad, i'm suggesting a backup plan, and optional recovery that will work, i have no idea what will happen if he reboots.  however, he should backup /home BEFORE he even thinks about rebooting :)
[02:09] <sorush20> CosmoDad: is the live cd the same as the insall alternative cd now?
[02:09] <holycow> i hope that outlines it
[02:09] <nexsa1> nexsal! my name is wrong lol
[02:09] <nexsa1> there
[02:09] <nexsa1> nope
[02:09] <theunruled> nexsa1: sorry ^^;
[02:09] <CosmoDad> sorush20: not sure
[02:09] <nexsa1> lol
[02:09] <theunruled> i'm not used to tab yet
[02:09] <nexsa1> no worries my tupo
[02:10] <rylasasin> now how do I use flash 9 in linux firefox?
[02:10] <sorush20> is there a program that you can install that will prevent things ike this from happening.?
[02:10] <nexsa1> ok i need to smoke more crack today
[02:10] <simpla> blind, is that shots of the Xgl stuff?  Could I get the link too so I can have a look?
[02:10] <CosmoDad> holycow: /etc/modules just contains modules that should be loaded *explicitly*, that's all
[02:10] <AngelShine> Hi, I wanted to ask: where can I get the default /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (I think I messed it up)
[02:10] <zircx> i see that suse, uses xen, does ubuntu allow for something similar?
[02:10] <ryanakca> another imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly, but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation... I can't seem to find a -export option...
[02:10] <blind> simpla, I'll PM you.
[02:10] <adam410> any ideas on how to modify DHCP setting from $?
[02:10] <avagant> Nobody is answering my questions in the other room. Haha
[02:10] <DrSpin> anyone wiling to assist with XFCE/wpa-psk ??
[02:10] <CosmoDad> sorush20: generally, you should be more careful when being root
[02:10] <holycow> CosmoDad, *nod* i was thinking that might prevent it from loading if he had some weird hardware ... you are probably correct
[02:10] <Centaur5> I understand that the 2.6 kernel dropped hardware support for old parts.  How old would a computer have to be to not work with Ubuntu?
[02:11] <nexsa1> f
[02:11] <CosmoDad> sorush20: how did you delete it?
[02:11] <blind> f indeed
[02:11] <holycow> Centaur5, commedore 64 i'm thinking?
[02:11] <avagant> Growl!
[02:11] <holycow> *cough*
[02:11] <AngelShine> Helloo!! Is there anybody non-busy for a video conf Q ?
[02:11] <holycow> oh i slay me
[02:11] <holycow> >_>
[02:11] <nexsa1> what the hell /nick doesn't work...
[02:11] <Centaur5> holycow: So a 233 or 450 mhz should work?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Centaur5,  perhaps one with isa slots.. of course it depends on the specific parts.
[02:11] <nexsa1> any good irc clients for linux, other than gaim?
[02:11] <zircx> Centaur5 , absolutely
[02:11] <blind> nexsa1, xchat, irssi
[02:12] <holycow> usre, but you will need to use a very lightweight desktop environment on those
[02:12] <Dr_willis> Centaur5,  ubuntu runs on a Pent I  100 machine of mine
[02:12] <holycow> like xfce
[02:12] <nexsa1> blind: which one do you use?
[02:12] <sorush20> CosmoDad: tell it to my pinkie, just sudo rm /etc/modules
[02:12] <CosmoDad> sorush20: to prevent accidental deletion via shell, you can force certain commands like mv and rm to prompt back to you before doing dangerous things
[02:12] <nexsa1> linux runs on anything man
[02:12] <blind> nexsa1: irssi. but it's console based.
[02:12] <Centaur5> Okay, thanks.  I was just curious whether or not to bother installing Ubuntu on machines that old.
[02:12] <nexsa1> unlike windoze
[02:12] <AngelShine> Hi? (Again)
[02:12] <CosmoDad> sorush20: you're nuts to do something like that :)
[02:12] <Centaur5> Dr_willis: Wow, does it still perform decent?
[02:12] <thermionic> adam, you 'enable'; dhcp or you run a static IP, you don't have special dcp settings that the server sees, unless apple really broke dhcp
[02:12] <holycow> Centaur5, for file servers, webservers, firewalls sure
[02:12] <nexsa1> ok
[02:12] <holycow> i use lots of those kinds of machines for that
[02:12] <blind> Hi, AngelShine.
[02:12] <AngelShine> Hi! =)
[02:12] <rylasasin> guys, I downloaded an installed flash 9 (windows) using wine
[02:12] <holycow> infact those used to be very good desktops
[02:12] <AngelShine> Thank you !!
[02:12] <blind> AngelShine: what do you need
[02:12] <rylasasin> now how do I make it work?
[02:12] <Centaur5> holycow: I'm talking about a replacement for 98
[02:13] <zircx> yes i use to run slack 7.0 on a 233mhz and it run pretty good
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Centaur5,  i never said that. :P it did the console very well.. and  i installed some very very light window managers.. it did ok.
[02:13] <zircx> 256mb of ram..
[02:13] <holycow> you can install xfce desktop if you want, it will be pretty speedy and nice, you just haveto install the maximum amount of ram into those
[02:13] <zircx> if that..
[02:13] <thermionic> nobody here knows about the binutils issue with apt-mirror or debmirrotr then I guess
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Centaur5,  the Install took a few hrs. :(  1x cdrom
[02:13] <ryanakca> another imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)
[02:13] <AngelShine> I think I messed up my /etc/X11/org.conf and wnated to know how coudl I get it backl to the default one
[02:13] <CosmoDad> sorush20: what's pinkie? your dog? ;)
[02:13] <sorush20> CosmoDad: no me my pinkei small finger that likes to reach for the enter button..
[02:13] <Centaur5> Dr_willis: Ouch, sounds rather painful.  :)
[02:13] <holycow> which i'm guessing should be around 300 mb or so? that should be more than enough to even run open office once in a while from xfce
[02:13] <njal> !xgl
[02:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:13] <blind> AngelShine: did you make a backup? :] 
[02:13] <AngelShine> I don't remember =(
[02:14] <holycow> !aiglx
[02:14] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[02:14] <AngelShine> the thing is
[02:14] <rylasasin> guys how do you make flash 9 work in linux firefox?
[02:14] <AngelShine> I messed with the conf a few days ago, and now I messed with it again
[02:14] <CosmoDad> sorush20: there're only two solutions: (1) ask someone else to be root for you or (2) DO BACKUPS
[02:14] <AngelShine> this time the X did not start
[02:14] <Centaur5> holycow: Okay, perhaps I'll give it a shot then with a different window manager.
[02:14] <CosmoDad> sorush20: those solutions written in capital letters are to be preferred :)
[02:14] <blind> AngelShine: you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to redo the whole thing
[02:14] <CaptainMorgan> has X-Chat's bottom tab feature been removed?
[02:14] <AngelShine> i got it back from a backup
[02:14] <bdragonmsl> anyone know of any good guides for getting xgl up and running?
[02:14] <blind> CaptainMorgan: not afaik
[02:14] <holycow> Centaur5, you don't loose much, its a good learning experience
[02:14] <dez> Yo
[02:14] <zircx> AngelShine , you should be able to run xorgconfig in a console and it should start you at the xorg configuration which will make a xorg.conf if it's been deleted
[02:14] <blind> bdragonmsl: try #ubuntu-xgl
[02:14] <nexsa1> Dr_Willis: how can i bypass xlibs again?
[02:14] <Dr_willis> bdragonmsl,  i found it best to not mess with xgl
[02:14] <bdragonmsl> thanks
[02:15] <CaptainMorgan> blind, it's set to bottom, yet it is not appearing at the bottom - rather to the left in a tree
[02:15] <Dr_willis> nexsa1,  i edited the .deb file following a forum/wiki link i found.
[02:15] <rylasasin> How do I use flash 9 on linux firefox?
[02:15] <Centaur5> holycow: Do you think customizing and stripping down the kernel will make a significant difference to be worth it?
[02:15] <AngelShine> @blind: so I should first delete it or just run that=
[02:15] <blind> CaptainMorgan: that's a separate option. set it to tabs and not tree.
[02:15] <Dr_willis> nexsa1,  or you can track down an old xlibs deb and install it
[02:15] <holycow> Centaur5, not at all
[02:15] <blind> AngelShine: just run that
[02:15] <dez> anyone know about s3 unichrome via?
[02:15] <AngelShine> great!
[02:15] <AngelShine> thank you!
[02:15] <holycow> Centaur5, there is no such thing as customizing a kernel on debian and its relatives
[02:15] <CaptainMorgan> blind, can you be specific? Im looking but I don' tsee it
[02:15] <holycow> those kernels are mostly modularized, the kernel loads only what it needs to
[02:16] <CaptainMorgan> blind, omg nevermind
[02:16] <holycow> that is to say the kernel configures it self
[02:16] <blind> CaptainMorgan: I'm not really sure. It's been a while since I've used X-Chat
[02:16] <CaptainMorgan> it's in view
[02:16] <blind> CaptainMorgan: lol :] 
[02:16] <CaptainMorgan> not in preferences like I thought
[02:16] <holycow> you would really only need to configure a kernel under some specific workloads, like embedded applications
[02:16] <Centaur5> holycow: Really?  Well I guess I'll never waste my time doing that.  :)
[02:16] <holycow> indeed
[02:16] <holycow> do it only if you want to learn
[02:16] <holycow> if you wanna do something cool
[02:17] <CaptainMorgan> !ubotu mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <holycow> install ubuntu full on any machine
[02:17] <holycow> then take the hd to any other machine and turn the power on
[02:17] <Centaur5> holycow: I guess it would save some disk space but that's all?
[02:17] <holycow> all you haveto make sure is that the hard drive is on the same part of the ide chain and channel
[02:17] <ryanakca> another imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)
[02:17] <holycow> Centaur5, few megs? why bother? you should have a 10 gig hd around a 233 might be able to see that
[02:18] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.
[02:18] <Centaur5> holycow: So you're saying that if you do a computer upgrade you won't have to do a repair install like with windows xp?
[02:18] <holycow> indeed, no point
[02:18] <holycow> apt just downlaods lattest packages
[02:18] <holycow> you only reboot if the kernel is updated
[02:18] <Centaur5> holycow: I mean, it rarely happens but sometimes a new mb will make xp need to be repaired.
[02:18] <sorush20> doing backups the very dynamic and prefared way is to hard..
[02:19] <holycow> Centaur5, not on linux or at least debian.  as everything is modular youthe kernel either has the drivers or they don't exist
[02:19] <Centaur5> holycow: The worst is when it won't let you login one freaking time afterwards cause it wants to be activated.
[02:19] <holycow> basicaly 98% of all hardware just works, plug and trully play
[02:19] <zircx> Centaur5 , kernel configurations are normally hardware specific, it just saves having a bloated kernel, which is relative to the boot process, it's not a major, you can actually configure and tweak your hardware once booted
[02:20] <holycow> Centaur5, kiss ms goodbye forever :) welcome to ubuntu.
[02:20] <holycow> as with any change there are things to learn and bumps to hit but you'll be fine
[02:20] <blind> zircx: did you get those screenshots?
[02:20] <zircx> blind , yes thankyou
[02:20] <rylasasin> HOW DO YOU USE FLASH 9 ON FIREFOX FOR LINUX?
[02:20] <Centaur5> holycow: Well I already have but I'm still learning.  I didn't know much about putting it on older machines as I have a core duo laptop that works great with it.
[02:20] <holycow> rylasasin, you don't the plugin doesn't exist yet
[02:20] <blind> rylasasin: install it with wine.
[02:21] <holycow> adobe is writing one
[02:21] <zircx> I said thanks earlier, but I must have pinged out prior to the message hitting the screen lol
[02:21] <blind> holycow: you can install it with wine >_>
[02:21] <holycow> rylasasin, welcome to the totally crappy world of proprietary software
[02:21] <simpla> Centaur5, what laptop did you are you using it on?
[02:21] <holycow> where you are at the mercy of  the software vendor
[02:21] <Centaur5> simpla: Sony VGN-SZ140P
[02:21] <holycow> what blind said yeah, that can maybe work but i refuse to run icky windows software on my boxen
[02:21] <holycow> >_>
[02:21] <rylasasin> I did install it with whine
[02:21] <ryan_> how do i install/enable 3d acceleration
[02:21] <rylasasin> but how do I use it (I want to veiw ytmnd in linux)
[02:22] <holycow> rylasasin, you need to install windows firefox on winve first
[02:22] <blind> mine worked right away
[02:22] <holycow> then install the windows version of the plugin
[02:22] <blind> holycow: no you don't
[02:22] <holycow> what?
[02:22] <blind> I have flash9 in my linux ff
[02:22] <Bird[OnLinux] > What command do I use to intall a program that I just downloaded?
[02:22] <holycow> since when does wine integrate into regular apps?
[02:22] <simpla> oh ok.  I ordered an Acer 5614, but couldn't find much info on it regarding if ubuntu picked all the hardware up.  I did find one forum post with some guy using it and said it ran fine.  Bout all he said.  So hoping it works fine on it.  Just waiting for it to be delivered :)
[02:22] <Centaur5> Thanks holycow for all the info
[02:22] <rylasasin> oh ok
[02:22] <holycow> Centaur5, no worries
[02:22] <blind> holycow: oh, maybe i used cxoffice
[02:22] <holycow> blind, of course you did
[02:22] <holycow> :)
[02:23] <zircx> I do run crossover which allows me to use the MS Office suite, that is somewhat of an advantage, especially when it comes to format and keeping the format between those documents, something that Open Office doesn't do
[02:23] <holycow> zircx, depends on your workload
[02:23] <holycow> in general if you are storing your documents in an editable format in ms office
[02:23] <holycow> thats just bad bad bad in so many ways its hard to describe
[02:23] <Centaur5> simpla: I would imagine that it will all work fine unless Acer put a broadcom wireless card in there.  Since it is a core duo they probably used the centrino 3945 wireless.
[02:24] <dewdude> is there anything special you have to do to get the menu on the server ISO that lets you choose LAMP install...because i know it's supposed to let you choose several options...but whenever i stick my CD in, after boot: pops up and hit enter..it goes right into standard install
[02:24] <holycow> if you haven't managed to convert to openoffice then okay, but its strongly urged to convert all docs to open office when you can ... that is a trully open and documented standard
[02:24] <holycow> and all formatting will be kept ... open office docs don't renumber them selves for example >_>
[02:24] <holycow> hehe
[02:24] <simpla> Centaur5, its spose to be in intel pro wireless
[02:24] <TheMoebius> I just installed edgy on my system and I have two video cards - both nvidia, but it only put one of them in xorg.conf. How can I get the PCI address of the other?
[02:24] <Centaur5> simpla: Is it the travel mate?
[02:25] <Bird[OnLinux] > What command do I use to install a file I just downloaded?
[02:25] <simpla> Centaur5, yep
[02:25] <blind> TheMoebius: lspci
[02:25] <holycow> TheMoebius, want my xorg.conf to check?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> TheMafia,  lspci has that option
[02:25] <CaptainMorgan> think I found a bug... I was trying different themes and I selected Resilience, now I can't open them selector anymore
[02:25] <CaptainMorgan> help?
[02:25] <avagant> Ok...whew I think I got everything.
[02:25] <TheMoebius> holycow: yeah, do you have multiple vid cards?
[02:25] <Centaur5> simpla: Err, I hate when Acer doesn't have the exact model # on their site.
[02:25] <CaptainMorgan> it opens for a split second then lcloses
[02:25] <holycow> oh shit ... TheMoebius i didn't read properly
[02:26] <holycow> \i have one dual
[02:26] <blind> holycow :O
[02:26] <simpla> Centaur5, lol yeah, i noticed that their site don't quite work with firefox either..  I think on their site its under a 5610
[02:26] <holycow> *eep* indeed, right i donno, sorry mate, that indeed is a tricky one
[02:26] <zircx> holycow; in the corporate world and enviroment, the majority of companies are using MS Applications, this is where linux use to faulter, because they didn't have anything that could compare, sure Openoffice is getting better, and I do use it all the time, but still, when you've got to take important documents which are in MS Office format it does become an issue
[02:26] <gnomefreak> holycow: again please watch your language
[02:26] <holycow> actually zircx your half right
[02:26] <zircx> it wouldn't be an issue if the majority of people out there were using Open office to start out with..
[02:26] <Centaur5> simpla: All I use is firefox and I go to their site every week.
[02:26] <holycow> we are converting 600 users to open office
[02:26] <blind> TheMoebius: use lspci
[02:26] <holycow> its as easy as pie if you have th eproper research and planning in place
[02:26] <dewdude> zircx, that'd make life easier, sadly MS OFfice was there first.
[02:27] <dewdude> and lots of organizations and people are leary when they hear the word "open"
[02:27] <simpla> Centaur5, oh ok.  I was having troubles with their site using firefox.  Its all I use aswell.  Must be just me
[02:27] <holycow> the side effect is that it streamlines and organizes your communication strategies and workflows
[02:27] <holycow> its surprisingly easy for us to tell all vendors and customers how to send us data and in what format
[02:27] <zircx> dewdude , yes that's unfortunately the reality at the moment..
[02:27] <CaptainMorgan> logging off, brb
[02:27] <Centaur5> simpla: What does it do or does it just not show certain things?
[02:27] <holycow> .doc IS NOT accepted here ... or wont be after we are done.
[02:27] <gnomefreak> holycow: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that and keep this channel for support
[02:27] <Bird[OnLinux] > How do I change my default movie player from totem media player to something else?
[02:28] <jrib> ubotu: tell Bird[OnLinux]  about defaultapp
[02:28] <holycow> gnomefreak, if you are going to warn me, try spreading the love fairly and warn everyone
[02:28] <holycow> danke
[02:28] <holycow> so who else needs ubuntu help?
[02:28] <ryan_> how do i install/enable 3d acceleration
[02:28] <holycow> ryan_, depends on what vid card you have?
[02:28] <holycow> !ati
[02:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:28] <zircx> yes, i concur, spread the love evenly
[02:28] <holycow> !nvidia
[02:28] <keegan_> How long does it take you guys normally to encode video?
[02:28] <dewdude> yeah...why won't the menu pop up on the server install CD so i can install a LAMP server...it just jumps right to install after pressing enter at the boot: prompt
[02:28] <Bird[OnLinux] > jrib nothing happened what you typed that in.
[02:28] <collier_> Excuse me, I install CALC threw Synaptic Now how do I open it???????/
[02:28] <holycow> keegan_, dependson the size of the file mostly
[02:28] <ellioTb> man, 531megs to install KDE if i am already running ubuntu w/gnome?
[02:29] <blind> keegan_: depends on the size and your processor speed
[02:29] <simpla> Centaur5, i went to their build your own page, but the button on it doesnt work
[02:29] <holycow> and the kidn of hardware you have to throw at it
[02:29] <Bird[OnLinux] > jrib nothing happened when you typed that in.
[02:29] <gnomefreak> collier_: OO.o calc?
[02:29] <jrib> !defaultapp > Bird[OnLinux] 
[02:29] <collier_> An Advanced calculator and mathematical tool
[02:29] <jrib> Bird[OnLinux] : did you get a private message now?
[02:29] <AngelShine> @blind: I just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' like you said, it asked me a lot of questions which I am not sure of the answer... but the final outcome is very similar to my old conf file, I'll try reloading the X now... wish me luck :-)
[02:29] <keegan_> I'm in a P3 866 and its about 700MBs :(
[02:29] <collier_> Its under synaptic
[02:29] <collier_> how do  I open it?
[02:29] <avagant> Ok guys as soon as this is done, I'm totally getting fluxbox
[02:29] <isae> What licenses do I agree to when I install an Ubuntu distro?
[02:29] <holycow> ellioTb, indeed, kde is not just a few small files.  it is a suite of software strung together to define the entire desktop experience
[02:29] <holycow> its really quite decent
[02:29] <blind> AngelShine: good luck :D
[02:29] <jrib> collier_: try what I suggested before with that other program
[02:29] <avagant> If fluxbox is real light weight that's all that matters.
[02:29] <gnomefreak> collier_: it should be in your acssories menu
[02:29] <collier_> What did u suggest?
[02:29] <Bird[OnLinux] > jrib I still didnt get one.
[02:29] <gnomefreak> only spelled right
[02:30] <jrib> !defaultapp
[02:30] <ryanakca> jrib: another imagemagick question: I've got animate running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)
[02:30] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[02:30] <blind> fluxbox is super lightweight
[02:30] <Centaur5> simpla: Oh, I've never tried to customize one on their site.
[02:30] <keegan_> avagant: I would rather have XFCE fluxbox is too minilistic for me
[02:30] <zircx> keegan_ , depending on the video if you're talking about taking footage from a digital camera and then encrypting it into a avi format as well as editing and cutting, I would say 1-2 hours to get 45minutes worth of video footage
[02:30] <jrib> Bird[OnLinux] : see above from ubotu ^
[02:30] <isae> What licenses do I agree to when I install an Ubuntu distro?
[02:30] <collier_> gnomefreak: its not under accessiores
[02:30] <Bird[OnLinux] > jrib ok thank you anyway.
[02:30] <simpla> Centaur5, yeah ah I tried it hoping I could build my own laptop lol
[02:30] <gnomefreak> isae: GPL
[02:30] <avagant> keegan_: That's how I like it.
[02:30] <TheMoebius> ok my other vid card has the entry 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900XT]  (rev al1) when i do lspci so does that mean the line in my xorg.conf will be BusID "PCI:01:00.0"? The other PCI card has BusID "PCI:0:14:0"...
[02:30] <blind> isae: you should have read :D
[02:30] <jrib> Bird[OnLinux] : ?? ubotu told you above
[02:30] <ryanakca> isae: GNU Public License, but that's the same for all linux distros
[02:30] <isae> gnomefreak: Only?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> no
[02:30] <isae> I know
[02:30] <Bird[OnLinux] > jrib I just got message.
[02:30] <avagant> keegan_: As long as it doesn't take up a billion hd.
[02:30] <ellioTb> holy, wow, that is so big, trying to remember if i liked kde when i had kbuntu installed for 20 mins
[02:30] <jrib> Bird[OnLinux] : oh ok
[02:30] <keegan_> I am taking an .avi video and converting it an SVCD format
[02:30] <ellioTb> err holycow
[02:31] <CaptainMorgan> folks.. I changed my theme to Resilience which is a horrible and now I can't change it back..
[02:31] <avagant> I have to reinstall konsole and amarok though. Boo.
[02:31] <jrib> collier_: type 'dpkg -L PACKAGE| grep bin'  that should help
[02:31] <CaptainMorgan> how do I revert? Im in KDE now cuz of this.. GNOME doesn't start because of the applied thmee
[02:31] <blind> keegan_: how big is the avi? whats your processor speed?
[02:31] <holycow> isae, no licence.  all the software is independently licenced under various open source licences, mostly gpl
[02:31] <Centaur5> simpla: Well I'm looking at the specs and I think the intel video chipset might take a little work to get working at it's full potential but it is possible.
[02:31] <jrib> collier_: that command will tell you what files got installed to bin folders (likely commands you can run)
[02:31] <keegan_> P3 866 and about 700MBs
[02:31] <isae> holycow: Mostly?
[02:31] <blind> keegan_: it's gonna take a while.
[02:31] <isae> Are the rest gpl-like?
[02:31] <jrib> ryanakca: I don't know, haven't used it that extensively
[02:31] <holycow> isae, free software llicences basically means you need to agree to nothing except the author gives you true consumer rights, and you agree to let the author keep his copyright to the work
[02:31] <ryanakca> jrib: kk
[02:31] <keegan_> I started at 12 and nows its 5:31 its at 29%
[02:32] <gnomefreak> isae: they are free licenses might not just be GPL
[02:32] <isae> holycow: I know
[02:32] <simpla> Centaur5, oh, i got the model that has a Nvidia 7300 256Mb card.  So shouldn't have any problems there, as using Nvidia 4600 on my desktop with ubuntu and its working fine.
[02:32] <holycow> isae, mostly.  gpl, lgpl, bsd, tons of other ones
[02:32] <isae> holycow: I know
[02:32] <collier_> jrib: no it didnt.
[02:32] <holycow> then why ask?
[02:32] <CaptainMorgan> can I access Gnome's themes from within KDE and manually switch it back?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> !license
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about license - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, no
[02:32] <ellioTb> can't decide whether to install KDE or not
[02:32] <gnomefreak> ack
[02:32] <simpla> Centaur5, I was mainly wondering about the wireless, bluetooth, and the inbuilt camera.
[02:32] <jrib> collier_: what was the output?
[02:32] <blind> keegan_: yeah. i've got a 3ghz and it would take ME a while to convert a 700mb video
[02:32] <w30> isae, it depends on what you do with it, distribution comes under GPL and some repos contain propritary software that has click throughs on install,like Nvidia drivers
[02:32] <collier_> jrib: Its to long to paste
[02:32] <ellioTb> if i decide to keep kde, can i uninstall gnome from ubuntu?
[02:32] <ellioTb> i have a small HD
[02:32] <holycow> ellioTb, sure
[02:32] <jrib> collier_: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:33] <CaptainMorgan> holycow: what do I do? Gnome seems to freeze when logging in... appears the theme is corrupted or corrupted Gnome
[02:33] <keegan_> I was reading the Flash 9 Blog, anyone got information on when the beta is coming out?
[02:33] <avagant> ellioTb: kde is fun huh?
[02:33] <holycow> ellioTb, you will need to pick a core gnome library, uninstall that and it will pull out all the other gnome apps with it
[02:33] <AngelShine> @blind: had to bring back my backup again... this time I read the error message, something about my X and my NVidia driver not having the same version ((????))) (I am trying to install the video driver, have a NVidia GeForce 2)
[02:33] <gnomefreak> isae: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[02:33] <avagant> ellioTb: I just don't think i have the hd for it.
[02:33] <zircx> keegan_ , what are type of file are you encoding from and too? vob to avi?
[02:33] <avagant> for more than one.
[02:33] <avagant> brb
[02:33] <w30> isae, you don't need a license to just use it for non comercial use
[02:33] <blind> !nvidia > AngelShine
[02:33] <der0b> captainmorgan: when I had that prob, I just removed (moved to a safe place) the .gtk* files in my home dir
[02:33] <ellioTb> avagant, yeah, just wondering if its gonna be too slow on this comp
[02:33] <Centaur5> simpla: pro wireless 3945 works great, bluetooth should be quite standard and work fine, cameras I hear can be a little tricky depending on who made it.
[02:33] <collier_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25610/
[02:33] <zircx> keegan_ , and what software are you using to encode?
[02:33] <avagant> it made me lag big time.
[02:33] <blind> AngelShine: read what ubotu sent you
[02:33] <keegan_> zircx: .avi to SVCD mpeg and I am using Avidemux
[02:33] <holycow> CaptainMorgan, delete the theme from  your system.  you need to google where gnome themes are stored, then do ctrl/alt/f1, log in to cli, delete theme, then restart gdm with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:33] <isae> w30, gnomefreak Thaks a lot dudes.
[02:33] <holycow> that should do it
[02:34] <zircx> ah okies..
[02:34] <Centaur5> simpla: I didn't get the camera on mine but somebody that did still hasn't gotten it to work.
[02:34] <jrib> collier_: dpkg -L PACKAGE_NAME | grep bin
[02:34] <AngelShine> sure will do, I'm not sure if it's not one of the pages I was reading about it when the whole 'my X is not starting' began =(
[02:34] <zircx> keegan_ , does it encode vob to avi?
[02:34] <holycow> w30, non commercial? you don't need a licence to use it for commercial stuff either
[02:34] <zircx> I haven't tried Avidemux
[02:34] <ellioTb> whats the name of the instant messenger APP in kde?
[02:34] <keegan_> I don't know...
[02:35] <holycow> most of the free software licences have no restrictions whatsoever on whether or not its commercial or non commercial use
[02:35] <blind> ellioTb: kopete
[02:35] <jrib> ellioTb: kopete?
[02:35] <collier_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25611/
[02:35] <zircx> I'll have to have a look into it
[02:35] <ellioTb> there we go, anyone know if it runs in gnome
[02:35] <holycow> kaim?
[02:35] <holycow> hehehe j/k :)
[02:35] <blind> jrib: you owe me a soda
[02:35] <simpla> Centaur5, ah ok.  Its an Acer OrbiCam 1.3 ..  I am assuming it will all work as the guy on a forum said he had no problems, didn't mention any problems with the camera, so assuming it will be ok.  I guess I will find out in the next day or 2 when it arrives and I install ubuntu on it :)
[02:35] <TheMoebius> can anyone help me find out what the BusID is for my AGP vid card?
[02:35] <jrib> collier_: replace PACKAGE_NAME with the actual package name :P
[02:35] <keegan_> Is VOB a DVD format?
[02:35] <collier_> o
[02:35] <collier_> lol
[02:35] <zircx> keegan, yes
[02:35] <keegan_> Then yes I believe it does
[02:35] <segfault> ellioTb, yes kde apps will run in gnome and gnome apps will run in kde
[02:36] <Dr_willis> ellioTb,  and I do so all the time. :P
[02:36] <isae> Do I accept some terms of licenses if I use an instant messenger that uses MSN protocols?
[02:36] <CaptainMorgan> der0b: you moved them all?
[02:36] <holycow> also, all those apps will also run on other de's as long as you have the proper libraries in place :)
[02:36] <Centaur5> simpla: Yeah, when I first installed Dapper I had to do a lot of crazy things to get it to work but now it's all supported in the kernel so it should be smooth.  Good luck to ya.
[02:36] <LilRayRay> could someone help me with compiling a driver?
[02:36] <zircx> I thought i'd do a test, I plugged my video camera into a windows boxen that I have here, and recorded the contents of the camera, put it into avi format and it come out like shit..
[02:36] <blind> keegan_: what's the name of that program again?
[02:36] <collier_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25612/ <-- I did that nothing happened
[02:36] <zircx> then I used kino, and did exactly the same thing and it come out perfect..
[02:36] <keegan_> Avidemux
[02:37] <CaptainMorgan> I have three: .gtk_qt_engine_rc    .gtkrc-1.2=gnome2   and .gtkrc-2.0
[02:37] <AngelShine> @blind: the page says something about 3 conditions having to be met, and I'm not sure I my card meets all of those (specifically this one: 'You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6".')
[02:37] <blind> collier_: you're got a / on the tail of that
[02:37] <Centaur5> simpla: I installed it 3 months before it officially came out as well, just so you understand it wasn't finished.  :)
[02:37] <holycow> zircx, you probably didn't check the compression stuff on win :) but oh well hehe
[02:37] <gnomefreak> isae: yes everything you use has a license in some way shape or form IM clients maybe the servers license
[02:37] <mike8901> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug does anyone know how to fix that error?
[02:37] <jrib> collier_: ah, I just read the description "Description: An advanced calculator and mathematical tool for Emacs."  Do you use emacs?  What are you looking for exactly?
[02:37] <der0b> captainmorgan: there was only 2 .gtk_qt_engine_rc & .gtkrc-2.0
[02:37] <mike8901> am I missing some packages?
[02:37] <CaptainMorgan> der0b: bare with me, that worked??
[02:37] <LilRayRay> when i try to compile the driver it doesnt recognize the "make" command
[02:37] <der0b> worked for me yes, captainmorgan
[02:37] <simpla> Centaur5, yeah thanks.  Just wish it would hurry up and arrive lol.. I tried Edgy on my old laptop (Screen busted, and it worked fine, but is an old laptop without half the stuff in the new one.  But I really could notice the speed increase between dapper and edgy
[02:37] <collier_> jrib: Oh I dont think I have emacs
[02:38] <mike8901> is lQtXML from a development library that I'm missing?
[02:38] <w30> holycow, I was thinking along the lines of putting Ubuntu stuff in something you sold, if so you need to offer a GPL License. I can't offer any lawyer type advice.
[02:38] <jrib> collier_: good. :)
[02:38] <simpla> Centaur5, yeah, the beta version, always fun to tinker
[02:38] <ellioTb> xfce seems exactly like gnome to me, now i can't remember what KDE was like, lol
[02:38] <holycow> w30, you can sell gpl stuff
[02:38] <jrib> collier_: do you just want a regular calculator?
[02:38] <holycow> its done all the time
[02:38] <zircx> holycow, well I was only working with the default moviemaker, the options are somewhat limited, and I even went with an option that overrode the default option, going with quality output it was still crap..
[02:38] <LilRayRay> anyone here that can help me?
[02:38] <jrib> !helpme
[02:38] <Centaur5> I'm probably going to put the edgy beta on in a few days when they freeze the kernel.
[02:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:38] <holycow> gpl simply demands you do certain things with respect to the gpld components when you do that, its in the licence it self *nod*
[02:38] <collier_> jrib: no
[02:38] <holycow> zircx, *nod*
[02:39] <jrib> blind: yes, I do owe you a soda
[02:39] <der0b> captainmorgan: I believe it has something to do with attemting to apply QT settings to Gnome apps.
[02:39] <w30> holycow, right. You just can't use it and sell it under your own license
[02:39] <jrib> collier_: what are you looking for?
[02:39] <LilRayRay> nayone here willing to help me compile a driver
[02:39] <simpla> Centaur5, would you know much about development with ubuntu?  Im only new to it, but was wondering about the source packages you download.  Was wondering if you download a source package, tinker with the code, and then build/compile it, does that make a binary in a new deb package?
[02:39] <mike8901> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug does anyone know how to fix that error?
[02:39] <blind> jrib: that was way late :P
[02:39] <AngelShine> @blind: the page says something about 3 conditions having to be met, and I'm not sure I my card meets all of those (specifically this one: 'You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6".') --- what I remember from my card: NVidia GeForce 2 MX, 32 or 16 MB
[02:39] <isae> Of course one can sell GPL-licensed stuff. That's what it is about.
[02:39] <zircx> ok, i think it's time to move my stuff over to my server, and download ubuntu and give it the test run
[02:39] <collier_> jrib: an algebra calculator
[02:39] <blind> AngelShine: hm. im not sure, then.
[02:39] <segfault> LilRayRay, ask ur question and maybe someone will help u
[02:39] <jrib> blind: yep, long queue up there
[02:39] <simpla> Centaur5, yeah I have been wanting to put the edgy one on, but being putting it off till I get my new laptop.
[02:39] <zircx> slackware's fine, but I want a desktop I don't have to work hard on..
[02:39] <mike8901> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtXml_debug <-------------------------- what does this error mean?
[02:40] <keegan_> Ubuntu is an easy setup
[02:40] <w30> holycow, maybe a SCO license??
[02:40] <holycow> lol
[02:40] <holycow> funny :)
[02:40] <jrib> collier_: try scilab or octave
[02:40] <LilRayRay> I asked twice sooo: How do you compile drivers.  Im following some instructions with a "make" command and it is an "unknown" command.
[02:40] <Centaur5> simpla: If you install a program from source it should replace the old version if I understood your question correctly.
[02:40] <jrib> ubotu: tell LilRayRay about compiling
[02:40] <segfault> LilRayRay, u need build essentials pkg
[02:41] <AngelShine> @blind: k, thanks anyways, I'll keep looking for tutorials on this.... :-)
[02:41] <nexsa1> wooohoooo
[02:41] <nexsa1> got source running on Ubuntu!
[02:41] <LilRayRay> I told it to install that, but it gave me an error
[02:41] <sagarp> in edgy how can i get rid of the printer icon in the notification area??
[02:41] <nexsa1> yaya
[02:41] <amicrawle> how doi download from irc ?
[02:41] <nexsa1> thanks Dr.Willis, got cedega running
[02:41] <ellioTb> for you KDE guys, what do you like about KDE over gnome of xfce
[02:41] <ellioTb> or is this the wrong room for that ?
[02:41] <CaptainMorgan> der0b, worked!
[02:41] <blind> ellioTb: god no don't ask that
[02:41] <CaptainMorgan> wow
[02:41] <zircx> I've never known any program to replace an older version of the exact program, normally you need to either un-install the older version or upgrade to the newer version
[02:41] <rendo> Quick question, does shockwave work with Ubuntu and Firefox?
[02:42] <blind> ellioTb: you will start a war
[02:42] <avagant> ellioTb: What about fluxbox?
[02:42] <ellioTb> blind, lol
[02:42] <CaptainMorgan> folks - stay away from the theme "Resilience"
[02:42] <blind> rendo: no
[02:42] <ellioTb> avagant, fluxbox is nice and fast, but i feel lost as hell, and i feel like i'll spend forever messing with it
[02:42] <krazykit> rendo: no
[02:42] <simpla> Centaur5, oh ok.  Yeah I am planning to learn c, c++, and was going to just hack code to start with while learning.  Was going to use the source packages from apt, so it includes the ubuntu changes from debian..  but don't know if doing it through the packages for source, if when you build it it makes a new binary package, which I could keep for next time I re-install ubuntu
[02:42] <rendo> So any games that are shockwave won't work, correct?
[02:42] <jrib> ellioTb: #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place
[02:42] <ellioTb> i have a really nice OS X look in gnome, i am in xfce right now
[02:42] <ellioTb> jrib, thanx
[02:42] <avagant> ellioTb: Don't say that, I was just going to download it.
[02:42] <LilRayRay> can someone pm me, it might be easier to help
[02:42] <blind> I can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux.
[02:42] <keegan_> Does anyone here have experience with LMMS?
[02:42] <krazykit> rendo: right.  shockwave not working = nothing shockwave will work
[02:43] <rendo> So I should backhand my wife for making me get up to try and fix something that doesn't work to begin with? :)
[02:43] <ellioTb> avagant, check it out, it looks really cool and is SUPER fast
[02:43] <rendo> Will do. :b
[02:43] <ellioTb> avagant, i am just too ADD to mess with it to make it just like i want it
[02:43] <avagant> WIll all my programs go?
[02:43] <jdrake> Is there a way to remove the restricted modules without removing the kernel itself?
[02:43] <ellioTb> avagant, the ones i tried worked perfectly
[02:44] <avagant> Will my programs that are on now transfer over?
[02:44] <blind> avagant: they won't transfer over.
[02:44] <ellioTb> avagant, yeah, the menu there will have all the same stuff as in gnome
[02:44] <blind> avagant: they're installed, they're not going anywhere.
[02:44] <ellioTb> avagant, what do you mean by transfer over
[02:44] <simpla> anyhow i am off to work.  bye all.  thanks Centaur5
[02:44] <Centaur5> simpla: Oh, I understand your question now.  I wish programming was something enjoyable to me but I never took more than one C+ class.  You'll have to do something after compiling it to make it a binary for later on but I don't know anymore than that.  Sorry
[02:44] <nexsa1> if Company of Heroes works, i'm gonna try to kiss my own feet
[02:45] <Centaur5> simpla: Okay, have fun.  I'm going to go home from work and eat.  :)
[02:45] <simpla> Centaur5, oh ok, yeah.  I will look more into it tonight when I get home.
[02:45] <keegan_> Is ellioTb uninstalling KDE still?
[02:45] <simpla> Centaur5, lol yep will do.  anyhow cya
[02:45] <zircx> aight, i'm out
[02:45] <ellioTb> keegan_, i haven't installed it yet
[02:45] <Centaur5> simpla: bye
[02:45] <slipstream3d> hello
[02:45] <rendo> What's that other thing, not Automatix, the other script thing for installing junk?
[02:46] <slipstream3d> Anyone wanna help out a doofus that just upgraded to Edgy and lost all network connectivity :D
[02:46] <ellioTb> keegan_, i want to install it, just nervous about taking up half a gig and then hating it
[02:46] <keegan_> ellioTb: If you don't like KDE when you install just go into the package manager and take it off, simple as that
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> !edgy
[02:46] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:46] <avagant> ellioTb: That's what I just did. Haha
[02:46] <rendo> n/m easyubuntu :o
[02:46] <myesterious> hi
[02:46] <slipstream3d> ahhh thanks
[02:46] <CaptainMorgan> is DDD compatible with Gnome?
[02:46] <ellioTb> keegan_, thanx
[02:46] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[02:47] <myesterious> Can i move /home/MyUser to another partition without reinstall Ubuntu ?
[02:47] <CaptainMorgan> oops.. lol was not meant to be here..
[02:47] <ellioTb> avagant, check out that fluxbox, if you are into that real hackery simple look, then its for you
[02:47] <derekjww> hello
[02:47] <collier_> How do I CD root?
[02:47] <jrib> collier_: what does that mean?
[02:47] <derekjww> use the sudo command
[02:48] <skroll> If I am using Evolution, and I just install spamassassin from the repos, will evolution automatically use it?
[02:48] <collier_> cd to root
[02:48] <Abst> !sudo
[02:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:48] <collier_> like cd Destop
[02:48] <derekjww> like: sudo cd /root
[02:48] <collier_> Desktop
[02:48] <jrib> collier_: just: cd /root
[02:48] <keegan_> I used fluxbox a couple of times but not enough to learn how to make it look all fancy and stuff
[02:48] <collier_> jrib: ok thanks jrib forgot the /
[02:48] <blind> I can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux.
[02:48] <ellioTb> i better plug this thing into the ethernet, downloading KDE over wireless might be kinda slow
[02:48] <derekjww> you won't have privelages to go into that file though
[02:49] <blind> derekjww: you have permissions to look, but need sudo to do anything.
[02:49] <derekjww> oh
[02:49] <derekjww> ok
[02:49] <Abst> !fluxbox
[02:49] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[02:49] <slipstream3d> sudo lets you use a single command, does su work in ubuntu? it keeps telling me my password is wrong.
[02:50] <jrib> ubotu: tell slipstream3d about sudo
[02:50] <suff0kate> whats the encoder i have to d/l to play mpeg files?
[02:50] <blind> I love fluxbox. I'd use it, if beryl worked with it.
[02:50] <jrib> slipstream3d: su works fine.  But you can't su to root because the password is blank.  Instead, use sudo -i for a root prompt
[02:50] <blind> suff0kate: mplayer, vlc pick one.
[02:50] <derekjww> well could somebody help me network my computer to a microsoft computer
[02:50] <markeib> can i write without real risks on ntfs partitions?
[02:50] <w30> myesterious, sure but make an entry in fstab so Ubuntu will know where it is. Remember that fstab needs tabs instead of spaces in certain places, if in doubt try a tab instead of a space and back up home and fstab first
[02:50] <suff0kate> ty
[02:50] <blind> markeib: nope.
[02:51] <czer323> hey blind!  I had to erase and install the other day, and now i don't have that pimp wallpaper you were showing off the other day.  Ubuntu/gray with transparent 45 lines.  Think you could link me up?
[02:51] <blind> czer323: you counted the lines? o_o
[02:51] <myesterious> I have to use "ln" command to link new path ?
[02:51] <czer323> blind> 45 degree angle lines.
[02:51] <ellioTb> avagant, did kde run too slow for you?
[02:51] <derekjww> somebody help me set up my network to microsoft computers
[02:51] <blind> ohhhhh lol
[02:52] <blind> czer323: http://blindcam.sytes.net/ubuntuwalltrans.png
[02:52] <manter> where can i find the ubuntu live cd?
[02:52] <jrib> manter: ubuntu.com, click on download
[02:52] <czer323> blind> lol, seriously ;)  I'm not that compulsive.
[02:52] <ellioTb> www.ubuntu.org/download
[02:52] <manter> i don see the live
[02:52] <ellioTb> it doesn't say :"live" anymore
[02:52] <jrib> manter: the live cd is now the both the live and the install
[02:52] <ellioTb> its just the desktop CD
[02:52] <ellioTb> it does the same thing
[02:52] <keegan_> ellioTb: I have a p3 866MHz, 512Mbs RAM, and a GeForce 5200 and I can run KDE with a little tiny bit a slowness
[02:52] <blind> czer323: yeah, there's more tthan 45 anyway
[02:52] <manter> ah tnx
[02:52] <rylasasin> uh guys how do I get quicktime?
[02:53] <rylasasin> I think thats what I need to veiw YTMND with sound
[02:53] <jrib> ubotu: tell rylasasin about quicktime
[02:53] <gnomefreak> !quicktime > rylasasin
[02:53] <maxlfusionwonder> Wiah
[02:53] <maxlfusionwonder> I can't beleive all my names were taken
[02:53] <jrib> gnomefreak: you owe blind a soda
[02:53] <MaxLF> There.
[02:53] <ellioTb> keegan_, i think i am going to install kde just so i can check it out a little more
[02:53] <MaxLF> OKay, will the geforce asus 6600 gt 128m work in ubuntu?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:53] <Asc> What's the method in bash used to let a program access a file of a different protocol?  Like if I want to cap http://whatever.txt
[02:53] <derekjww> how do I set up a network with microsoft computers
[02:53] <ramon> hi, i recently changed my apt sources to edgy (from dapper) and have only managed to upgrade a few packages. now many things fail with "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings ... are supported and installed on your system ... falling back to standard locale "C". Is there a particular package I should upgrade to fix this?
[02:54] <Asc> *cat
[02:54] <w30> myesterious, no just copy home to a new partition and then in /etc/fstab make an entry for home. like "/dev/hda3       /home/mydirectory           ext3    defaults        0       0" without the quotes
[02:54] <rylasasin> I meant the quicktime pluggin
[02:54] <czer323> !samba
[02:54] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:54] <jrib> Asc: some wget incovation
[02:54] <derekjww> yes samba
[02:54] <keegan_> ellioTb: I love KDE, I just hate Kopete doesn't tell if people are using AIM with there Cellphone or not, thats all that is stopping me from using KDE lol
[02:54] <jrib> Asc: invocation even
[02:54] <keegan_> GTK + QT apps looks good, but QT + GTK looks bleh
[02:54] <nexsan> back
[02:55] <jrib> Asc: wget -O - http://foo  I think
[02:55] <ellioTb> keegan_, lol, can't u just use gaim in KDE? i like the ichat style of kopete, but its so annoying how you can't organize the group names
[02:55] <keegan_> I can't stand seeing how much GAIM stands out in KDE lol
[02:55] <Asc> jrib: I'm trying to access a remove volume via http without downloading it.
[02:55] <czer323> i love me some gaim.
[02:55] <detectiveinspekt> can someone look at my ip address function
[02:55] <keegan_> I love GAIM too, but not in KDE lol
[02:56] <nexsan> yea, gaim is pretty cool
[02:56] <nexsan> using it for ir
[02:56] <nexsan> irc*
[02:56] <detectiveinspekt> trying to program using sockets at memcpy is going funky
[02:56] <detectiveinspekt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25614/
[02:56] <ellioTb> keegan_, gaim would be awsome if you could "skin" it a little more, or change the appearance better
[02:56] <cipher_nemo> When I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:
[02:56] <cipher_nemo> vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[02:56] <blind> i hate gaim for irc.
[02:56] <blind> yick
[02:57] <cipher_nemo> Is it normal to not be able to open the x11 display in ubuntu via a root terminal?
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> detectiveinspekt, may i ask why you think we are c gurus ?
[02:57] <Crescendo> I don't like gaim for IRC either.
[02:57] <ellioTb> keegan_, i just realized how annoying that is you can't see the cellphones
[02:57] <keegan_> ellioTb: Totally or if they made kopete better, hopefully KDE4 revamps kopete
[02:57] <b-rad> Has anyone had an issue with Kubuntu Edgy and the resolution being set to something your monitor cannot deal with?  It starts to boot up, but then the resolution changes to something the monitor can't display and I'm stuck...  anyone got any ideas on what I could do?  I attempted to install the Nvidia drivers, but no such luck.
[02:57] <Crescendo> I use XChat.
[02:57] <ellioTb> keegan_, well i am gonna install KDE right now
[02:57] <keegan_> ellioTb: I hate it too, I am always afraid to IM
[02:57] <CaptainMorgan> where are X11 files located?
[02:57] <Dr_willis> I use xchat 2.4 :)
[02:57] <nexsan> trying Konversation
[02:57] <blind> b-rad: you're gonna have to do some research and find out the correct horizsync and vertrefresh for your monitor, then edit your xorg.conf
[02:57] <Dr_willis> CaptainMorgan,  which X11 files? theres an X11 directory or 2
[02:58] <nexsan> there i am in konversation
[02:58] <detectiveinspekt> you can program
[02:58] <blind> I can't get my VNC server working. running Xvnc tells me one's already running, but I can't connect to it, nor does anything show up in ps aux. >_>
[02:58] <ellioTb> i guess i can just install all the diff WM
[02:58] <nexsan2> hey
[02:58] <Dr_willis> blind,  normally you run the 'vncserver' command.  (or at least I do)
[02:58] <b-rad> blind: would that affect bootup as well, unless Kubuntu boots that darn quick heh
[02:58] <ellioTb> if i have the Kubuntu cd, can i just install kde off that
[02:58] <nexsan2> can't decide which one i like better
[02:58] <CaptainMorgan> Dr_willis, Im trying to install DDD, and at ./configure; make, it says: configure: error: The X11 library '-lX11' could not be found.
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> detectiveinspekt, sure i am not saying people here doesnt know .. well its your right to ask :P
[02:58] <blind> Dr_willis: well vncserver runs Xvnc :]  but lemme try that and see what happens
[02:58] <Dr_willis> CaptainMorgan,  you need to isntall the X11 developer packages.
[02:59] <CaptainMorgan> Dr_willis, eh? how do I do that?
[02:59] <keegan_> Does anyone know where I could a tutorial for LMMS? Its tricky
[02:59] <Dr_willis> blind,  check the logs in .vnc, also you may want to make a xstartup script in the dir to run a specific window manager and terminal.
[02:59] <Stevo> does anyone know how to get wireless working in Ubuntu 6.06LTS?
[02:59] <blind> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25615/
[02:59] <MaxLF> Will an asus video card work in linux?
[02:59] <Dr_willis> CaptainMorgan,  fire up the package manager, serrch for the X11 dev pacakges.. click.. install.
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> keegan_, i would check for "X11 library" in synaptic
[02:59] <ellioTb> keegan_, if i have the kubuntu cd, can i install kde off that, by adding it to sources.list or whatever
[02:59] <AngelShine> @blind: I found something, I do have to install the link you sent me, some GeForce need it, some don't, mine is one of those as I understood... so restarting my X again .... *crossing-fingers* :-)
[03:00] <ellioTb> keegan_, cause its a pretty big DL
[03:00] <keegan_> ellioTb: You can just go to the synaptic and install it from there, cause if you install it from the CD its gunna take ever longer
[03:00] <ramon> hey, anyone know what package my locale en_ZA.UTF8 would be in, it says its not installed on my system and now some programs won't start?
[03:00] <matjan> hi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?
[03:00] <keegan_> ellioTb: Then you can just switch from Gnome or KDE through the GDM
[03:01] <ellioTb> keegan_, alright its downloading, probably will be done in 10 years
[03:01] <Dr_willis> blind,  could not open default font 'fixed'      <----------- this bug has been around for AGES
[03:01] <Asc> There's a bash function that allows a program to act on a file inside an archive.  Anybody know what it is?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> blind,  personally I would remove the vncserver you installed and install the vnc4server pacakge.
[03:01] <blind> Dr_willis: there's also Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[03:01] <Dr_willis> blind,  its smarter and dont have that issue.
[03:01] <cipher_nemo> no one can help with my video output problem?
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> Asc, whats the extension of the archive ?
[03:01] <blind> Alright Dr_willis
[03:01] <ellioTb> keegan_, by the way, if you hold your mouse over a person in Kopete, and there is no buddy icon, it means they are on the phone
[03:01] <Dr_willis> blind,  i  THINK the issue with that package is a bug/typo in the vncserver script looking for xf86config not xorg.conf
[03:02] <CaptainMorgan> Dr_willis,  that search came up empty
[03:02] <keegan_> ellioTb: Is that so...hm I might switch over...
[03:02] <Dr_willis> blind,  but i cant rember the details
[03:02] <Asc> wickedpuppy: .tar.gz
[03:02] <detectiveinspekt> what the hell?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> !info vnc4server
[03:02] <ubotu> vnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[03:02] <detectiveinspekt> got any ideas?
[03:02] <ellioTb> keegan_, yeah, just figured it out, still a little bit annoying, but atleast you can tell b4 you message
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> Asc, tar -tvf file.tar.gz
[03:02] <PFA> what would b ethe command to swapoff hda4?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> Asc, btw look at tar --help
[03:03] <detectiveinspekt> oh *hit IC
[03:03] <krazykit> PFA: swapoff hda4
[03:03] <blind> Dr_willis: I'm not sure how to remove tightvnc :\
[03:03] <avagant> What is it "sudo alternative-update -- whatever?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> especially the examples
[03:03] <krazykit> PFA: rather, sudo swapoff /dev/hda4
[03:03] <PFA> krazykit, swapoff: hda4: No such file or directory
[03:03] <Dr_willis> blind,  apt-get remove whatever
[03:03] <PFA> krazykit, swapoff: /dev/hda4/: No such file or directory
[03:03] <blind> Dr_willis: i didn't isntall it from the repos
[03:03] <krazykit> PFA: you sure it's hda4 then?
[03:03] <DaMaakus> hi everybody - i installed ubuntu and managed to mount two windows partitions, but i cant get samba to share them, can anybody help me with this?
[03:03] <MaxLF> is there a list of video cafds that work in ubuntu
[03:03] <AngelShine> @blind: It worked, I just saw the NVidia logo, thank you so much! :-)
[03:03] <PFA> krazykit, yup
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> Asc, if that doesn't work try tar -tzvf ...
[03:03] <Asc> wickedpuppy: Without extracting the archive.
[03:04] <blind> AngelShine: haha I didn't do anything :D
[03:04] <blind> AngelShine: but I'm glad it worked.
[03:04] <cipher_nemo> reposting, as I guess no one out of 860-some ppl can answer this yet :( ... When I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:
[03:04] <cipher_nemo> vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> that won't extract .. look at tar --help ... -t is for listing -x is for extracting
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> Asc, that won't extract .. look at tar --help ... -t is for listing -x is for extracting
[03:04] <AngelShine> @blind: turns out restarting wasn't doing it, had to sudo shutdown -r now to do the trick... don't know why though
[03:04] <krazykit> PFA: well... /dev/hda4 isn't a directory, so there shouldn't be the trailing /
[03:04] <PFA> krazykit, swapoff: /dev/hda4: No such file or directory
[03:04] <Asc> I am.  Trying to look all those up.
[03:04] <blind> AngelShine: weird.
[03:05] <PFA> krazykit, this is a liveCD btw does that make a difference
[03:05] <Dr_willis> you sure its hda4
[03:05] <Dr_willis> and not some other hda
[03:05] <krazykit> PFA: yes.
[03:05] <PFA> krazykit, sorry
[03:05] <PFA> Dr_willis, yup, i'm looking at it in Gparted as we speak
[03:05] <matjan> hi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?
[03:05] <krazykit> PFA: i don't think the liveCD uses available swap...  you could check /etc/mtab and others
[03:05] <cipher_nemo> !flood
[03:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:06] <PFA> krazykit, well . . . it's got a padlock icon in GParted and won't let me change it. that's all i know.
[03:06] <Dr_willis> Ive seen live cd's that scan for swap partitons and use them if found.
[03:06] <Dr_willis> how do you remove a swap partiton from use... if its being used.....
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> I have multiple installations accessing some partitions.  I need those partitions user-writable.  Is that a chmod thing or fstab thing?
[03:07] <krazykit> PFA: you could check /proc/meminfo to see if there is swap being used
[03:07] <PFA> krazykit, huh?
[03:07] <markeib> how to autologin?
[03:07] <Asc> wickedpuppy: Well, it seems to list the files in an archive.  How would I open one?
[03:07] <CaptainMorgan> Dr_willis,  that search came up empty, theres plenty of other X11 stuff, but i don't see dev specific
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> tonyyarusso, its sudo thing if you are talking about premission problems to /etc and such that user does not have access to
[03:07] <krazykit> PFA: you're not familiar with the command line, are you :-P
[03:07] <PFA> krazykit, not so much
[03:08] <krazykit> PFA: can't tell you how to do it graphically, and i need to get homework done :-/
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> wickedpuppy: I mean permanently.  They're things like /multimedia, where I keep my music.  Sudo shouldn't be necessary.
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> Asc, again i would look at the tar --help ... the command is tar -zxvf ... you are not looking at the help are you ? they have the examples ...
[03:08] <Dr_willis> CaptainMorgan,  im guessing its somthing like Xlib-dev or similer.. i just tend to click and install everything.
[03:08] <PFA> krazykit, can you explain how to do it CLI-y? lol
[03:08] <jtholmes> atiixp sound card not detected all modules loaded  ideas
[03:08] <cipher_nemo> When I did #mplayer -vo xv /tmp/test.mpg ... where test.mpg is a valid mpeg video I recorded, I got this message:
[03:08] <cipher_nemo> vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!       Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[03:08] <cipher_nemo> Is it normal to not be able to open the x11 display in ubuntu via a root terminal?
[03:08] <krazykit> PFA: open a terminal, `cat /proc/meminfo` and check for any swap
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> tonyyarusso, i don't have a dir called multimedia ... so you created using root ? to change owner use chown , to change permission use chmod
[03:09] <Asc> wickedpuppy: Unless you've got a different version of tar than me, -z is an invalid option
[03:09] <Dr_willis> libx11-dev - X11 client-side library (development headers)
[03:09] <avagant> How do I get rid of a program I compiled myself?
[03:09] <jtholmes> I have read all the documents about sound
[03:09] <PFA> krazykit, looks like it -- SwapTotal SwapFree SwapCached?
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> Asc, what did you type ? can paste the whole line here ?
[03:09] <matjan> hi, how can i get the totem firefox plugin to play fullscreen?
[03:09] <Dr_willis> CaptainMorgan,  apt-cache search X11 | grep dev
[03:10] <CaptainMorgan> thanks Dr_willis found that one
[03:10] <CaptainMorgan> libx11-dev.... so you install Every one of them?
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> wickedpuppy: I created it during the installation - it's a separate partition.  Additionally, I have _multiple_ installations of Linux, all of which should have access to that partition.  chown/chmod I'm not sure would be the proper way to go, but I don't quite now how it applies in this particular case.
[03:10] <Dr_willis> CaptainMorgan,  im guessing thats the one you need.. I tend to just install,... and keep installing. :)
[03:10] <krazykit> PFA: those'd be the ones.  you could just try `sudo swapoff /dev/hdaX` replacing X with 1 through 4
[03:10] <CaptainMorgan> hahah
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> tonyyarusso, man chmod and man chown
[03:10] <Asc> wickedpuppy: tar -tzvf tru*tar.gz Licence.txt
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> and permissions .. look for them in google ..
[03:11] <Asc> Although... hm.
[03:11] <wickedpuppy>  Asc, again i would look at the tar --help ... the command is tar -zxvf ... you are not looking at the help are you ? they have the examples ...
[03:11] <avagant> How do I get rid of something I compiled on my own?
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> its axvf
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> zxvf
[03:11] <PFA> krazykit, what would that accomplish? :/
[03:11] <avagant> I don't remember where all the files for it went.
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> not tzvf
[03:11] <krazykit> PFA: it'd swapoff anything on those partitions, in case you're wrong about the swap partition or something.
[03:11] <Dr_willis> avagant,  sudo make uninstall   - IF you kept the source tree
[03:12] <PFA> krazykit, nope, i'm looking at it in GParted right now
[03:12] <avagant> source tree?
[03:12] <avagant> Well amarok has last.fm support so I figure it's pretty stupid to have last-exit.
[03:12] <hsunda3> Does anybody here run Ubuntu inside Vmware on a Windows XP host? I am doing so (and everything is great) but I am getting worried about the memory consumption. Any ideas?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> avagant,  you compiled it from source... that directory
[03:12] <Agrajag> hsunda3: buy more ram
[03:13] <avagant> it says "no rule to uninstall"
[03:13] <Dr_willis> hsunda3,  tell xp to quit slurping down the ram. :)
[03:13] <hsunda3> Agrajag: indeed.. that's on my agenda for Thanksgiving.
[03:13] <Dr_willis> avagant,  now you know why package managment was invented.
[03:13] <hsunda3> Dr_willis: hmmm.... as far as I know, only Firefox takes up my ram on Windows XP. Otherwise I have no complaints.
[03:13] <markeib> can i uninstall kaffeine without having to install all the kde desktop?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> avagant,  check the docs and makefile..  the guy may of not bothered.
[03:14] <PFA> krazykit, omg i am stupid
[03:14] <Dr_willis> hsunda3,  you allocate X amount of ram for the vmware thing.. and it uses it.. whats the problem?
[03:14] <PFA> krazykit, i was trying to do the extended instead of logical partition!
[03:14] <PFA> krazykit, thanks for all your help
[03:14] <Dr_willis> PFA,  i was wondering that...
[03:14] <hsunda3> Dr_willis: you are right .. I do set the upper limit on the RAM ... just that I am not running X on the Ubuntu ... not a complaint Dr_Willis :) ubuntu is great.. just curious .
[03:15] <blind> Dr_willis: I've got it working, but still can't connect to it :\
[03:15] <hsunda3> Dr_willis: I am running LAMP on my UBuntu inside Vmware and it is just awesomely convenient ... nothing could be better..
[03:15] <viator> why run ubuntu in vmware?
[03:16] <avagant> Dr_willis: What about "make clean"
[03:16] <viator> id run xp in vmware its the only safe way
[03:16] <tritium> avagant: nope
[03:16] <hsunda3> viator: don't have the patience to get it running given my laptop hardware
[03:16] <hsunda3> viator: safe is a matter of perception, really.
[03:16] <avagant> See I have the directory of files, but it's skill in bin
[03:16] <viator> yeah ;)
[03:16] <hsunda3> viator: I am safer running Windows, since I tend to play around less. With Ubuntu I tend to break it more often given how much you can play around with the kernel and so on :)
[03:17] <Dr_willis> avagant,  gcc 101 - that cleans the source tree. :)
[03:17] <hsunda3> but inside of Vmware, I can do all kinds of stuff, knowing that a drastic mistake only means a new image .. nothing could be simpler :)
[03:17] <viator> sure same for xen etc
[03:17] <Dr_willis> hsunda3,  im running windows under vmware in Ubuntu. Heh
[03:17] <viator> well kinda
[03:18] <avagant> Dr_willis: Will that get rid of the "bin" files too?
[03:18] <hsunda3> Dr_willis: I would have too ... but sometimes Windows just does the job for me .. primarily playing music from a couple of websites.
[03:18] <Dr_willis> avagant,  no idea.. it aint somthing i worry about..
[03:18] <viator> hsunda3 im interested in what sites the music wont play for you
[03:18] <avagant> Well I guess it doesn't matter as long as last-fm is gone.
[03:18] <viator> in linux
[03:18] <hsunda3> Dr_willis: also, I generally don't run X. So it just runs in the background. I SSH into my Ubuntu running inside the Vmware!
[03:19] <Dr_willis> avagant,  if it did - it would remov the bin files from the source tree directory.. NOT the system,
[03:19] <rapha> Help! Ubuntu Server 6.06 always does a reboot right after GRUB ... doesn't even load Linux kernel... :(
[03:19] <viator> what are they?
[03:19] <hsunda3> viator: http://musicindiaonline.com and http://raaga.com ..these are both sites that serve Indian music .. and use RealPlayer.
[03:19] <Dr_willis> hsunda3,  ! blasphmy! you got it totally backwards!
[03:19] <Dr_willis> hsunda3,  ya could use that xming and have X apps on your windows desktop also :)
[03:19] <blind> Dr_willis: any clue why it's running, I set a password, but I still can't connect?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> blind,  check the log files
[03:20] <CaptainMorgan> Dr_willis, now I know what you mean... 5th time Ive installed something different
[03:20] <hsunda3> Dr_willis: indeed, I have practically the entire Cygwin installed .. when I compile the kernel I do the make xconfig on Cygwin :)
[03:20] <blind> Dr_willis: I'm trying to connect from a different computer.
[03:20] <Dr_willis> hsunda3,  i found xming just for the X stuff works nicer then Cygwin.
[03:20] <blind> oh wait. nevermind
[03:20] <Dr_willis> blind,  try connecting locally first. vncviewer localhost:1 or :2 or whatever
[03:20] <markeib> why can't i uninstall gaim without uninstalling gnome-desktop?
[03:21] <hsunda3> viator: ironically the website (http://musicindiaonline.com) even has instructions for playing it on Linux. But i couldn't figure it. Guess I didn't have codecs or something.
[03:21] <tritium> markeib: because of package dependencies
[03:21] <Dr_willis> blind,  also kill the vncserver with 'vncserver -kill :1' (or is it --kill)
[03:21] <markeib> ok
[03:21] <avagant> Dr_willis: Well it's still showing in bin.
[03:21] <Dr_willis> blind,  that kills it nicely
[03:21] <avagant> So I guess I didn't do something right.
[03:21] <ryanakca> I've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but a) '-loop 0' is an invalid option (even though it is documented at http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#loop ), and b) how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)
[03:21] <tritium> markeib: you can do it, but when you go to dist-upgrade to edgy, you'll likely want to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:21] <Dr_willis> avagant,  make clean does NOT remove the binaries from the /bin as i said.. it removes the stuff from the source tree directory
[03:21] <avagant> oh
[03:22] <avagant> so i have to go into bin and remove it myself?
[03:22] <hsunda3> markeib: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package that lists the other packages. Therefore it is not required for a running system, but when upgrading to a newer release that *package* is required.
[03:22] <avagant> See now I have more space, I knew it was kde.
[03:22] <Dr_willis> avagant,  thats what 'sudo make uninstall' would do. or check the docs.. the gjy may be doing somthing different
[03:22] <Jimerson> hello
[03:22] <viator> yeah im playing it right now
[03:22] <Jimerson> I have a question
[03:22] <tritium> avagant: in the future, use checkinstall if you compile stuff from source.  Better to find ubuntu packages, though.
[03:22] <viator> that indain music is kinda funky
[03:22] <Dr_willis> avagant,  gee. removing stuff - does normally give you more drive space. :)
[03:22] <viator> in a good way
[03:22] <avagant> Hehe
[03:22] <bdragonmsl> does 6.10 use the latest nvidia drivers??
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> How to define mount options for drives that are managed through hal?  For instance, I would like to have all USB flash drives mount with the sync option rather than the default of async, but of course such devices do not exist in fstab.
[03:23] <mike-digiport-> I tried installing squid with --enable-ssl, and on Make, I get the error
[03:23] <markeib> so hsunda that means that
[03:23] <viator> on a side note there is a realplayer in the repos
[03:23] <avagant> I have 2 10gb hd's, and the main one was like 4.3gb from like 5.9
[03:23] <mike-digiport-> cannot find openSSL headers
[03:23] <markeib> hey i think i understand
[03:23] <viator> the plf repos
[03:23] <viator> but
[03:23] <blind> Dr_willis: this is weird O_o. I connected via HTTP, using the java applet. worked fine, tried connecting, it tells me it can't connect to the VNC server.
[03:23] <avagant> I might try that fluxbox though.
[03:23] <viator> im using mplayer
[03:23] <Dr_willis> i got 10gb+ in just my wallpapers directory
[03:23] <markeib> the package isn't anything it just has all these dependencies to be easy to use
[03:23] <tritium> !nvidia-glx edgy
[03:23] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8774+2.6.17.5-8 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[03:23] <hsunda3> viator: depends on what you are playing. Good to hear you could get it playing. A couple of my friends managed it too, but I prefer to use each operating system for what it does best.....
[03:23] <blind> but don't the VNC server and http server both run off the same program?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> blind,  how are you trying to connect?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> blind,  the port #'s are different for one thing
[03:23] <blind> right now im on a separate computer
[03:23] <viator> told it to use windows media player and it worked
[03:23] <blind> using Real VNC
[03:23] <hsunda3> viator: Wow! that's interseting ..
[03:24] <cipher_nemo> roflol
[03:24] <Jimerson> I am trying to configure my iBook's trackpad in the xorg.conf file, but I'm not sure which setting to modify under the synaptics touchpad input device.
[03:24] <cipher_nemo> I think viator has the wrong channel
[03:24] <blind> i also tried the java applet. it connected to the applet, but won't connect to the vnc
[03:24] <Dr_willis> blind,  what port# are you using with the java applet?
[03:24] <cipher_nemo> viator: wrong channel?
[03:24] <hsunda3> cipher_nemo: no .. :) he is not.
[03:24] <viator> nope
[03:24] <viator> ot
[03:24] <viator> lol
[03:24] <blind> 5801 for the java, 5901 for VNC
[03:24] <viator> kind of
[03:24] <amonkey> i'm trying to install ubuntu and the livecd only detects my integrated graphics. how do i tell it to use my addon card?
[03:24] <hsunda3> cipher_nemo: he is just testing a website for me.. checking if he is able to stream songs from a website I couldn't earlier :)
[03:24] <Dr_willis> blind,  try vncserver ip#:1
[03:24] <cipher_nemo> I'm seeing viator's comments... but don't see a link to anything else in the channel, lol
[03:25] <Dr_willis> not 5901
[03:25] <tritium> amonkey: try disabling the onboard graphics in the BIOS
[03:25] <cipher_nemo> hsunda3: ahhh
[03:25] <viator> amonkey is it disabled in the bios
[03:25] <blind> with the # sign?
[03:25] <amonkey> tritium: i can't, i can select which has priority (start first) but i can't just drop it
[03:25] <amonkey> viator: ditto
[03:26] <hsunda3> blind if I might interrupt, what are you having problems with?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> blind,  No.. use the ip# :)
[03:26] <Dr_willis> or name
[03:26] <blind> hsunda3: vnc
[03:26] <Jimerson> Anyone familiar with modifying those trackpad settings?
[03:26] <blind> Dr_willis: thought so, had to ask
[03:26] <JavaDeveloper> Hi, I have a question regarding Gnome startup environment, I put Java in PATH in .bashrc, somehow in Gnome, I run Eclipse by clicking an icon that runs Eclipse, it couldn't find Java by saying "'Java' is not in your current PATH"
[03:26] <blind> Dr_willis: it timed out o.o
[03:26] <blind> but im connected via ssh right now
[03:26] <reter> can i upgrade from hoary to edgy eft?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> blind,  Hmm... im wonderin if windows isent messing with somthing.
[03:26] <JavaDeveloper> But if I run it in shell, I could run it
[03:26] <hsunda3> blind what VNC server are you using?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> blind,  you got a desktop on the vncserver machine?
[03:27] <tritium> reter: yes, but ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:27] <Dr_willis> blind,  try vncserver localhost:1
[03:27] <hsunda3> blind: the built in one or did you install one?
[03:27] <elizabeth> when i started up ubuntu it said that /dev/hda6 could not be found . . . all this crazy stuff about fsck. i just deleted that partition in a liveCD. what should i do so it doesn't try to mount it at startup?
[03:27] <Dr_willis> blind,  also do a ps - and see if vnc is really running
[03:27] <blind> AHH TOO MANY QUESTIONS
[03:27] <blind> rofl
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, have you reloaded bash?
[03:27] <blind> it is, Dr_willis i checked the log, it showed the HTTP request.
[03:27] <blind> plus it's in ps aux
[03:27] <Jimerson> hehe, lemme know when it slows down and I'll ask mine again later
[03:27] <blind> hsunda3: installed vnc4server
[03:27] <Dr_willis> blind,  so try on the vnc machine the vncserver localhost:1
[03:27] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: yes
[03:28] <kupesoft> I want to fix the button that triggers the screen to shut off when I close up my laptop.  What is that button called?
[03:28] <blind> Dr_willis: all i have right now via ssh is a cli
[03:28] <Dr_willis> blind,  eww. :)
[03:28] <viator> eleizabeth edit etc/fstab
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, can we see the path line from .bashrc?
[03:28] <blind> Dr_willis: im not quite sure what im doing :P
[03:28] <viator> remove any refrence to it
[03:28] <Dr_willis> blind,  well the trick is - for most vncclients you dont tell it  5901 - you just tell it '1'
[03:28] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: sure
[03:28] <blind> Dr_willis: i don't know ssh
[03:28] <hsunda3> blind: it might not be very easy to launch a vncserver using SSH :) .. the $DISPLAY will be all messed up ..
[03:29] <Dr_willis> I run the vncserver all the time with ssh.
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, when you type java in commandline what you get?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> ssh in, run vncserver -- I get a line like ------------>   New 'Audigy:1 (willis)' desktop is Audigy:1
[03:29] <viator> PFA get that post?
[03:29] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/190491
[03:29] <viator> heh
[03:29] <hsunda3> Dr_willis: do you forward your X through SSH?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> I can then go to the windows machine and point the vncviewer to "Audigy:1'
[03:30] <mcquaid> hello, anyone know about troubleshooting DriveReady SeekComplete Error type errors when dealing with cdrom/dvd drom drives?
[03:30] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: it shows my 1.4.2 JDK
[03:30] <blind> meh, im going home. i'll figure this out there.
[03:30] <Dr_willis> hsunda3,  hes on a windows box. :P  so i dont think hes doing that.
[03:30] <Gekitsuu> I may have missed the beginning of the conversation but instead of fowarding my x session I just use an ssh tunnel with vnc
[03:30] <mcquaid> I'm at my wits end trying to get this burner burning successfully again. it doesn't seem to be a linux problem as i make coasters in windows as well
[03:30] <Dr_willis> blind,  this is on a local lan? or are you doing it through the internet?
[03:31] <hsunda3> Dr_willis: Ah ok ...
[03:31] <mcquaid> at first i thought the drive was dying (it reads discs fine just burns coasters even though it says burnt successfully)
[03:31] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: the story went like this, I installed jdk1.4.2_12 manually specifically for Opentab ERP cuz it doesn't work on jdk1.5.  Then I tried to redirect Java to 1.4.2 by using updating alternative.  However, on UbuntuGuide, it doesn't show me how to do that since all those are talking about how to download JDK1.5
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, echo $PATH
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> what you get?
[03:31] <mcquaid> so i ignored it for awhile assuming the burner was dying.  but i finally got a new dvd burner and i'm still making coasters
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> and echo $JAVA_HOME
[03:31] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: there are ubuntu packages of SUN's java
[03:31] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/190494
[03:32] <kitche> mcquaid: maybe bad IDE controller
[03:32] <mcquaid> i thought maybe bad ram, i did memtest for 10 hours with no errors, i've tried 3 different ide cables
[03:32] <tritium> !java > JavaDeveloper
[03:32] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: yeah but I lovely to download and install manually cuz I need to change JAVA_HOME to do some tests
[03:32] <mcquaid> kitche, ya i'm thinking that, hoping it isn't
[03:32] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: *love
[03:33] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: you can change JAVA_HOME with environment variables
[03:33] <mcquaid> kitche, there is another drive on the same ide channel that gives me no issue
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, it seems to be ok ... the path is in $PATH..
[03:33] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: changed and I even fixed update-alternatives manullay by redirecting the symlink in /etc/alternative/java, javaws and java_vm and completely ignore update-alternative
[03:34] <avagant> SO IN ORDER to get fluxbox I just put "sudo apt-get install fluxbox?
[03:34] <jrib> avagant: yes
[03:34] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: let me try to show you what eclipse says
[03:34] <avagant> Sweet
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> k
[03:34] <avagant> and everything i had before will still be here huh?
[03:34] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: doesn't sound right...
[03:34] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: sorry, just wait a bit cuz I am downloading callisto plugins :P
[03:34] <viator> avagant yes
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> btw you are running eclipse on the same shell right ?
[03:34] <viator> and you can choose which de you want to use
[03:34] <LookTJ> Hi people
[03:34] <viator> from gdm
[03:35] <LookTJ> what's up y'all
[03:35] <Jimerson> (going to ask my question again.. :p)
[03:35] <LookTJ> !repeat
[03:35] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:35] <LookTJ> > jimerson
[03:35] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: what do you mean by same shell?  before I modified the symlink, I didn't have problem running eclipse by clicking on the 'shortcut icon' on desktop that I created but not after
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> what symlink ?
[03:35] <Jimerson> I am trying to get the touchpad on my ibook working by modifying the synaptics touchpad section of xorg.conf, yet I don't know which setting controls the cursor speed. Anyone able to help?
[03:35] <reter> \what is the page to upgrade to dapper drake?
[03:36] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: /etc/alternative/java, /etc/alternative/javaws and /etc/alternative/java_vm
[03:36] <jrib> ubotu: tell reter about upgrade
[03:36] <tritium> JavaDeveloper: you're saying that running sudo update-alternatives didn't work?
[03:36] <Jimerson> I mean, the touchpad works, it just goes very slow.
[03:36] <suff0kate> Is there a battle.net bot for ubuntu?
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, sometimes i have 3 bash terminals opened in gnome ... if i re load bash in one , i need to re load all so the they are all getting the latest bashrc .. btw you are NOT andy leung ... are you ?
[03:37] <JavaDeveloper> tritium: thanks for your link, but I thought I've already mentioned I need JDK 1.4, not 1.5
[03:37] <viator> funny my touchpad is REALLY slow under windows
[03:37] <viator> under ubuntu uts fast but not too fast
[03:37] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: yes I am
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> no kid ... i thought its the singer ...
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> one of the heavenly kings
[03:38] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: lol...anyway I am just a small potatoe...I even restart my computer to load bash for my gnome but whenever I run that shortcut icon that I make for eclipse, it gave me error message
[03:38] <suff0kate> how do u mask ur ip with gaim?
[03:38] <terr> Is there an "educational" version of ubuntu suitable for junior high?
[03:39] <kitche> suff0kate do you mean though tor or just masking?
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, just type bash and it will reload ...
[03:39] <LookTJ> Jimerson: use usb mouse instead to save the trouble
[03:39] <CaptainMorgan> folks, i successfully installed DDD, however I would like to add it to the App/Programming Menu, how do I do this?
[03:39] <viator> under ubuntu go under system >prefrences> mouse
[03:39] <suff0kate> something to cover up my ip when i am in a irc channel like this one
[03:39] <jrib> terr: I'm not sure what level edubuntu is targeted at, but are you aware of it?
[03:39] <viator> you can increase the speed
[03:39] <CaptainMorgan> it's exec is in /usr/local/bin
[03:39] <viator> of your touchpad there
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, you have trouble loading eclipse or trouble compiling or running programs after loading eclipse ?
[03:39] <Jimerson> I have but it is not always convenient as when I am in a car or in class :\
[03:40] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/190500
[03:40] <kitche> suff0kate: use tor or donate to freenode to get a cloak
[03:40] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: trouble loading it from gnome but not in terminal
[03:40] <suff0kate> k
[03:40] <suff0kate> ty
[03:40] <svid> hey all, I need help setting up an svid-out port on my laptop
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, can i trouble you to right click on the icon on the desktop and go to properties ? look at the command
[03:41] <anuvis001> hi
[03:41] <ryanakca> I've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)
[03:41] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: not a problem, cuz I make it up and it did work before I replaced the symlink for alternative
[03:41] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: http://apache.pastebin.ca/190501
[03:41] <anuvis001> what is the best target wifi(pci) for ubuntu???
[03:41] <JavaDeveloper> anuvis001: I have used Linksys's card and they are pretty good
[03:42] <suff0kate> okay i downloaded tor now what do i do to use it?
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, the command is the same as you run from the terminal ?
[03:42] <JavaDeveloper> anuvis001: even the USB one is very easy to install
[03:42] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: yes
[03:42] <terr> jrib no - I wasn't aware of it.
[03:42] <rapha> What JERK decided to remove isapnptools from the ubuntu repos?
[03:42] <terr> jrib - I'm a developer and am happy with Debian (so far).
[03:43] <terr> jrib - I'm doing this for a friend who runs a high school lab
[03:43] <Mortuis> quick noob question: How do I tell how much RAM this computer has?
[03:43] <phargle> rapha: i did it
[03:43] <hsunda3> Mortuis: cat /etc/meminfo
[03:43] <anuvis001> and the d-link ?
[03:43] <rapha> phargle: sorry for the jerk then, but... Why?
[03:43] <terr> Mortuis:  check the boot info - dmesg
[03:43] <phargle> i didnt really
[03:43] <rapha> Ah.
[03:43] <sorush20> Seveas: will you be updating that source-o-matic ?
[03:43] <phargle> :)
[03:43] <rapha> :)
[03:43] <anuvis001> is good or not??
[03:44] <terr> Mortuis:  top also tells you.
[03:44] <hsunda3> yes of course! top as well..
[03:44] <crimsun> rapha: it was removed on July 28, 2005 from the Debian unstable repository, and when Ubuntu synced, the source package was also removed.
[03:44] <Mortuis> hsunda3: no such file :-(
[03:44] <kitche> suff0kate: read this http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor
[03:44] <jrib> terr: I see.  Well edubuntu.org is all I know about it.  But all the *buntu's are the same thing except a different meta-package to choose the default apps.  So your friend can always add whatever apps he feels would be useful through apt
[03:44] <hsunda3> Mortuis: sorry: cat /proc/meminfo
[03:44] <Mortuis> but top worked, I wanted to see if this memory I installed was good.
[03:45] <crimsun> rapha: see http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/isapnptools/news/20050728T183210Z.html
[03:45] <rapha> crimsun: ah okay, thanks. I'll go and blame Debian then :)
[03:45] <terr> Mortuis:  dmesg is a command...
[03:45] <snook353> apt-get upgraded ephiphany-browser, and it crashes!!
[03:45] <Mortuis> cat /proc/meminfo   worked as well
[03:45] <hsunda3> terr: I think he was talking about my incorrect /etc/meminfo (it should be /proc/meminfo)
[03:45] <Mortuis> thanks again
[03:45] <rapha> crimsun: too bad, no reason given...
[03:45] <hsunda3> Mortuis: :)
[03:45] <terr> hsunda3:  ok - no worries
[03:45] <crimsun> rapha: sure there is, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=318359
[03:46] <noumaan> my keyboards shift keys not working for unknown reasons. i want to know how could i assign the shift key role to some other key on my keyboard/
[03:46] <terr> jrib: Thanks - I was lookin for the link at ubuntu and missed it.
[03:46] <snook353> i have breezy, and i don't want to get dapper, cuz it won't work with my laptop
[03:46] <bruenig> edgy...
[03:46] <snook353> the cursor doesn't change speed.  it goes really slow across the screen
[03:46] <ryanakca> noumaan: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'... it'll give you the option somewhere along the way
[03:47] <bdragonmsl> could anyone help with getting my nvidia drivers installed?
[03:47] <bruenig> !nvidia
[03:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <JavaDeveloper> anuvis001: it's not that stable
[03:47] <CaptainMorgan> folks, i successfully installed DDD, however I would like to add it to the App/Programming Menu, how do I do this? it's exec is located in /usr/local/bin and at $bash: ddd is a command not found error
[03:47] <rapha> crimsun: that is bad news for me. Any idea how I could get an old ISA card working on the current Ubuntu kernel then?
[03:47] <crimsun> rapha: what type of isa card?
[03:47] <rapha> crimsun: NIC with BNC connector.
[03:47] <terr> jrib:  I'm blind.  I ignored the related projects.
[03:47] <Jimerson> snook353 I have the same  problem with my cursor
[03:48] <crimsun> rapha: is the driver loaded?
[03:48] <bruenig> CaptainMorgan, do you have alacarte?>
[03:48] <snook353> is edgy Really gonna be better than breezy and dapper?
[03:48] <rapha> crimsun: Works under OpenBSD afair... and used to work under Slackware.
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, i can't figure out why eclipse is not getting the PATH
[03:48] <snook353> yeah, it was unmanagable for me, so i put breezy back on, jimerson
[03:48] <bruenig> snook353, in theory, else it wouldn't be released. But what is 'better' is subject to individual need and definition
[03:48] <rapha> crimsun: let me try to find that out
[03:48] <suff0kate> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. WHY DOES IT SAY THAT 24/7
[03:49] <TrendKi||> hey guys, anyone can point me to a link for getting madwifi in the module-assistant?
[03:49] <Jimerson> snook353 kind of computer are you running?
[03:49] <jrib> ubotu: tell suff0kate about permissions
[03:49] <snook353> yeah.  i've got a five-year old laptop - toshiba sat 1407, i believe.  i'll check on the numbers
[03:49] <kitche> suff0kate: where are you trying to save the file though
[03:49] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: it's okay, I will run it from shell then....thank you very much
[03:49] <CaptainMorgan> ah.. thanks bruenig
[03:49] <snook353> jimerson, 1405 - s171
[03:50] <bruenig> CaptainMorgan, lol, glad that one question spawned a solution...
[03:50] <snook353> i want to upgrade, but its insane to use a mouse that slow wth dapper, jimerson
[03:50] <Jimerson> snook353 I wonder what would happen if you copied the synaptic touchpad inputdevice settings and pasted them into xorg.conf in dapper
[03:51] <hsunda3> has anybody here used the rope programming language in Ubuntu?
[03:51] <Jimerson> snook353 I'm a real newbie at this so it is just an idea
[03:51] <snook353> well, idk, but i'll try it!
[03:51] <rapha> crimsun: dmesg says it's a D-Link DE220 (it is)... but from reading the rest of dmesg and also the lsmod output I'd say there is no module loaded.
[03:51] <anuvis001> thanks you  4<JavaDeveloper>
[03:51] <noumaan> ryanakca,  For example, if you wish the Caps Lock key to behave as an additional     
[03:51] <noumaan>   Control key, you may enter "ctrl:nocaps"; if you would like to switch     
[03:51] <noumaan>   the Caps Lock and left Control keys, you may enter "ctrl:swapcaps".
[03:51] <noumaan> ryanakca,  how do i set it to use capslock as shift key/
[03:51] <snook353> have you done that, jimerson?
[03:51] <Jimerson> if you give me settings that breezy gives you I'll try them on my dapper
[03:52] <ferger> anyone here use xubuntu?
[03:52] <knixtech> no
[03:52] <Jimerson> snook353 no, I just installed linux for the first time ever yesterday.. and dapper it was
[03:52] <knixtech> ;)
[03:52] <snook353> ok....i don't know where to find that stuff, jimerson
[03:52] <tgelter> I just updated to edgy and now I can't get booted...I think it's not loading dmraid right, anyone able to help?
[03:52] <snook353> Oh, that's great!  but too bad...jimerson
[03:52] <Flannel> tgelter: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[03:52] <tgelter> thanks
[03:52] <knixtech> ferger, just ask your question
[03:52] <Flannel> ferger: people in #xubuntu use xubuntu, if you really need some xubuntu specific help
[03:52] <crimsun> rapha: lsmod |grep ^ne
[03:52] <knixtech> ferger, fur burgers?
[03:53] <snook353> jimerson, where would i find the input settings?  i'll do it if you can tell me
[03:53] <ferger> haha no, but i get that all the time
[03:53] <cipher_nemo> How do I copy all of one user's settings (and Firefox info) to another user account?
[03:53] <knixtech> ha,  go to xubuntu
[03:53] <ferger> like how doctor evil says father
[03:53] <rapha> crimsun: nope, nothing. Just "new_wlan" which belongs to one of the other two interfaces.
[03:53] <Jimerson> snook353 the xorg.conf file is "sudo gedit //etc/x11/xorg.conf
[03:53] <bruenig> ciper_nemo, copy over the ~/.mozilla directory
[03:53] <snook353> ok
[03:53] <Flannel> Jimerson, snook353, gksudo not sudo
[03:53] <crimsun> rapha: sudo modprobe ne
[03:53] <snook353> ok, thanks flannel
[03:53] <bur[n] er> cipher_nemo: and all the ~/ including . for other settings
[03:54] <Jimerson> snook353 let me make it more clear- in terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf"
[03:54] <hsunda3> is anybody familiar with the difference between -Y and -X on a SSH X Forward? I know one is *trusted* and the other is not, but that means what?
[03:54] <Flannel> Jimerson, snook353, and no double //, and you'll probably want to put the command in quotes
[03:54] <bur[n] er> cipher_nemo: profiles in linux is a breeze :)
[03:54] <Jimerson> flannel snook353 oops
[03:54] <bur[n] er> Jimerson: gksudo works better when it's a gui app
[03:54] <snook353> ok jimerson flannel
[03:54] <Jimerson> thanks guys
[03:54] <rapha> crimsun: there we got another prob now. I'm running the system from the CD's rescue mode because the shipped kernel won't boot. So, naturally, no access to the drivers in the real /lib/modules :(
[03:54] <crimsun> hsunda3: -Y is not subject to the X11 SECURITY extension controls
[03:54] <bruenig> is there any difference between gksudo and gksu
[03:55] <Jimerson> as I said it is only my second day :\
[03:55] <hsunda3> crimsun: so anything I should know in particular to connect to my home machine from my laptop while on the road?
[03:55] <noumaan> i am reconfiguring xserver xorg and i want to assign the shift key role to the capslock key how i do that.
[03:55] <cipher_nemo> bur[n] er: a breeze, but only after I know them :) can you give me full paths of what to copy?  my user I want to copy is ciphernemo, and the user I want to add my settings to is mythtv, and I'm in a root terminal window now
[03:55] <crimsun> hsunda3: -X is preferred to -Y
[03:55] <hsunda3> crimsun: ah ok ..
[03:55] <noumaan> shift:capslock
[03:56] <crimsun> rapha: so ne is loaded now? Can you ifup the interface?
[03:56] <snook353> flannel, jimerson, it says this:  (gedit:10394): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:56] <snook353> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:56] <bruenig> when I do gksu nautilus and gksudo nautilus, at least graphically everything is the same
[03:56] <hsunda3> bur[n] er: actually you can use gksu for any user, not just root (as longas you have the password for that user) ... it's similar to the way su and sudo work
[03:56] <bur[n] er> cipher_nemo: cp -a /home/ciphernemo /home/mythtv && sudo chown -R mythtv:mythtv /home/mythtv
[03:56] <bruenig> snook353, if it still launches don't worry about it, that warning is a bug that doesn't mean anything
[03:56] <Jimerson> snook353 there is another way to get there without the terminal.. one moment and I will try and figure it out
[03:56] <w30>     cipher_nemo maybe copy all the users .files to the new user and change the ownership and group to the new user? That would configure every yhing almost.
[03:56] <bur[n] er> cipher_nemo: that also sets the priveleges for mythtv to see cipher_nemo's files that you copied
[03:56] <ferger> all my desktop icons disappeared and when i right click on the desktop, the menu doesnt drop down anymore
[03:56] <snook353> ok, jimerson
[03:56] <knewt> how do i configure my partitions during the installer without using the "partition disks" option? this being because that doesn't know about them
[03:57] <bur[n] er> w30: that's what I said... only via commands
[03:57] <hsunda3> ferger: that would probably mean you are not running any desktop at all. What Desktop Environment are you using?
[03:57] <sorush20> is there anything equivalent to windows recovery in linux or ubuntu?
[03:57] <bruenig> knewt, you can go to System>Administration>Gnome Partition editor, although I think the one in the installer is the same thing
[03:57] <bruenig> !backup
[03:57] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[03:57] <snook353> jimerson, it show an empty file
[03:57] <cipher_nemo> bur[n] er: thx!
[03:57] <rapha> crimsun: no, it's not loaded. The ne module is only included with the installed system, but right now I have to run off the CD. That's my second problem though, Ubuntu 6.06 Server's kernel appears not to work on computers with 48Meg of RAM...
[03:57] <ryanakca> noumaan: no clue... sorry, I just know that it's possible using that command...
[03:57] <bur[n] er> cipher_nemo: np
[03:57] <Dr_willis> sorush20,  remind me what windows-recovery does?
[03:57] <knewt> bruenig: i'm using the expert server install
[03:57] <w30> bur[n] er, good that would be better
[03:57] <ryanakca> noumaan: aka, I forget how I had done it..
[03:58] <Jimerson> menu->places->computer->filesystem->etc->x11 snook353
[03:58] <cipher_nemo> w30: I don't think I'll need to do that since pretty clean system just for use as a PVR
[03:58] <bruenig> knewt, ah
[03:58] <snook353> ok, jimerson
[03:58] <noumaan> ryanakca,  what about shift:swapcaps
[03:58] <Jimerson> snook353 try it through that and it will work, I had trouble with the terminal too
[03:58] <cipher_nemo> w30: but would be good to know in the future :)
[03:58] <ryanakca> noumaan: have you tried using a differrent keyboardmap?
[03:58] <sorush20> Dr_willis: key files are replaced , just wondering if my key files could alos be replaced..
[03:58] <ryanakca> noumaan: maybe
[03:58] <noumaan> ryanakca,  yes
[03:58] <knewt> bruenig: and my "partitions" are all device-mapped. i've got them set up, but i need to get the ubuntu installer to know about them
[03:58] <ryanakca> noumaan: kk
[03:58] <bruenig> knetw, I got nothing
[03:59] <crimsun> rapha: you chroot into your Ubuntu install and install another kernel.
[03:59] <cipher_nemo> burner and w30, thx for the help... I'll relog and check it out
[03:59] <avagant> Ok, I'm using fluxbox, and I like it.
[03:59] <snook353> jimerson, ok , i got it
[03:59] <avagant> This is about the easiest thing in the world.
[03:59] <Stevo> who knows about wireless in ubuntu?
[03:59] <snook353> i'll paste it
[03:59] <gunfus> Hello guys
[03:59] <Jimerson> snook353 great! Now scrolls down until you find input devices synaptic touchpad
[03:59] <cipher_nemo> bur[n] er: does the two commands you gave me also transfer Firefox bookmarks?
[03:59] <gunfus> I am trying to learn more about the linux source
[03:59] <Dr_willis> sorush20,  a users 'key' files would all be in the home dir..  system wide - hmm.. /etc/ and a few other spots.. so ive not noiticed any similer programs for linux. you could make your own.. but how do you know whats imporiutant or not. :P
[03:59] <w30> cipher_nemo, I keep a fake user on my system so I can steal files when I f#%@$%up, god knows I do it enough.
[03:59] <avagant> !pastebin
[03:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:59] <gunfus> I wonder if anyone has a good recomendation on where to start reading the source
[04:00] <gunfus> or what is someone easy to understand
[04:00] <gunfus> so far I am looking at v4l
[04:00] <gunfus> which is not too bad
[04:00] <bur[n] er> cipher_nemo: yes... it copies settings for all programs
[04:00] <Dr_willis> gunfus,  what source specfically?
[04:00] <bur[n] er> cipher_nemo: be it firefox favorites, or thunderbird configuration
[04:00] <sorush20> Dr_willis: I think that would com  under the easy backup project that is under develop
[04:00] <gunfus> right now I am looking at tuner.c
[04:00] <reter> can i go from hoary to dapper and skip breezy updates?
[04:00] <cipher_nemo> w30: ahhh, makes sense :) I'm sure I would to if I was using ubuntu as my primary desktop... fortunately I can only fup right now, because onces MythTV is working, I won't do much else with the pc :)
[04:00] <Dr_willis> sorush20,  i can say that ive never really had much of a need to backup the stuff. :P
[04:01] <snook353> *looking*, jimerson
[04:01] <avagant> reter: I've read that wasn't adviced.
[04:01] <cipher_nemo> bur[n] er: cool, thx again!
[04:01] <bur[n] er> reter: i wouldn't advise it... i killed a pc doing that once
[04:01] <ArrenLex> reter: when you apt-get dist-upgrade, you go to the newest packages in your repositories.
[04:01] <Xenguy> reter: I don't think that is recommended :-/
[04:01] <cipher_nemo> that was easy :)
[04:01] <hsunda3> gunfus: the source is too massive. Perhaps you might be better off determining what part of the source you want to learn first, and then look at that section of the code. Or you could start from a scratch at something like kernelnewbies.org or something
[04:01] <crimsun> reter: it's not recommended to skip stable releases when dist-upgrading. That said, it's doable if you have patience and diligence.
[04:01] <Ubuntu-ne> Hello all.
[04:01] <sheepy1988> hey folks, anyone good with rhythmbox?
[04:01] <bur[n] er> sheepy1988: define "good with" ;)
[04:01] <gunfus> hsunda3: I will go to that
[04:01] <snook353> ok, i found several things about the  input devices synaptic touchpad, jimerson
[04:01] <bruenig> sheepy1988, just ask
[04:01] <rapha> crimsun: I'm already chrooted into it and am happily doing stuff. I just don't know which of the Ubuntu kernels that are in the repos could suit a box with 48MB of RAM?
[04:02] <crimsun> rapha: -386
[04:02] <hsunda3> gunfus: http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHacking
[04:02] <rapha> crimsun: that's what the -server kernel is...
[04:02] <ryanakca> I've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)
[04:02] <sheepy1988> my rhythmbox doesnt play mp3s for some reason, i dont know if its because they're from an ipod backup disc or because its on a dvd, or because i havent got a decoder installed (newbie)
[04:02] <errr> I did a server install of ubuntu, I did apt-get install gnome and got all the stuff needed for a gui now, but Im not sure the command to use to kick off the X server setup, any hints?
[04:02] <gunfus> hsunda3: THANKS!
[04:02] <crimsun> rapha: the -server kernel has a different config to -386
[04:02] <Jimerson> snook353 can you email me all the options under that section?
[04:02] <rapha> crimsun: aaah okay... thx then :)
[04:02] <bruenig> sheepy1988, ubuntu doesn't have mp3 support by default, you have to install it
[04:03] <sheepy1988> ah
[04:03] <ArrenLex> errr: apt-get install xserver-xorg x-window-system-core
[04:03] <bruenig> ubotu, tell sheepy1988 about mp3
[04:03] <hsunda3> gunfus: what you were searching for?
[04:03] <snook353> i've pasted it, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25619/ jimerson
[04:03] <La_PaRCa> What would be the right software for someone to use on windows if they want to share their webcam with me in ekiga?
[04:03] <Ubuntu-ne> Random question to the room: Should a basic Ubuntu install allow for desktops larger than 1024x768 for an Nvidia 5900?
[04:03] <Jimerson> snook353 ah thanks
[04:03] <sheepy1988> any hints on where to get the decorder and what not?
[04:03] <sheepy1988> decoder*
[04:03] <mortal5> for mplayer, don't you put your codecs in /usr/lib/codecs?
[04:03] <bruenig> sheepy1988, check this
[04:03] <bruenig> !restricted
[04:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:03] <ArrenLex> Ubuntu-ne: yes.
[04:03] <errr> ArrenLex: wouldnt apt-get install gnome have added an Xserver considering it wont run with out one?
[04:03] <crimsun> mortal5: /usr/lib/win32/
[04:03] <snook353> so you have about the same toshiba, jimerson?
[04:04] <ArrenLex> mortal: /usr/lib/win32 is default, although codecs will also work
[04:04] <Ubuntu-ne> ArreLex.. hmmm. Thanks. I was afraid of that.
[04:04] <sorush20> Dr_willis: google is offering something like this http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/index.html, I think it would be a great idea for ubuntu to do something similar where by if you have to reinstall your root partition and download update etc you would be able to sync back to the origianl ubuntu that you left. I do not mean backing up all your root partition but just your fav programs that you would like to 
[04:04] <gunfus> hsunda3: well first I want to get my tuner video card working and for that I am working with the v4l guys.. next I guess I wanted to look into monitoring my system which I tried a couple of months ago.. but I wasn't that much into the coding stuff
[04:04] <Jimerson> snook353 no, but my options ar ethe exact same :(
[04:04] <ArrenLex> err: not necessarily. Check.
[04:04] <snook353> Oh :(
[04:04] <sheepy1988> cheers mate
[04:04] <Ubuntu-ne> I blew up my Xconfig trying to get above 1024x768.
[04:04] <sorush20> other things like source aditions from your fave sources is essential too..
[04:04] <snook353> jimerson:  hmmm
[04:04] <errr> ArrenLex: wow what a rip, it didnt, but now it is.. that seems like a bug :)
[04:04] <Jimerson> snork353 was worth a shot- thanks
[04:04] <alex_ubuntu>  I am trying to enable the printer I have located on my routers printer port in cups, any help..
[04:04] <ryanakca> I've got animate (ImageMagick) running smoothly with 'animate -delay 20 *.png', but how do you export the animation into an animated .gif or .png?... I can't seem to find a -export option... (or something similar)
[04:04] <gunfus> hsunda3: now I am thinking of something like getting this 256 RAM box PII box working with some linux
[04:05] <hsunda3> gunfus: good luck!
[04:05] <bruenig> Soekisan, that is a lot of server space that is essentially unnecessary seeing as if you want the app back, you can download it again anyways
[04:05] <snook353> sorush20, you bought an external usb mouse, and it works better than the toughpad, jimerson?
[04:05] <bruenig> sorry Soekisan I meant sorush20
[04:05] <Jimerson> snook353 usb mouse works fine, my touchpad does not
[04:05] <ArrenLex> errr: it's not a bug. Some people might want to install gnome on, for example, a network machine which serves the environment or applications for use by other machines running X on the network.
[04:05] <gunfus> hsunda3: Thanks
[04:05] <rapha> crimsun: is there a specification or something somewhere that says what the minimum requirements for the Ubuntu kernels are?
[04:05] <snook353> Oh, well that's better than nothing, jimerson
[04:05] <gunfus> hsunda3: I should probably look into gento for installing linux on the 256 RAM box, eh?
[04:06] <viator> i configure my touch pad through the gui
[04:06] <Dr_willis> sorush20,  theres several bookmark cacheing sites/tools out.. i was using that google one.. but some how it lost my bookmarks. :(  using Del.icio.us right now
[04:06] <hsunda3> gunfus: probably not until you are quite comfortable with Linux in general .. for which of course Ubuntu is the best way to get started..
[04:06] <nads> Hello... can anyone please help me set up my VPN connection to work? pptpconfig seems to work and is connected, but I'm unable to ping any remote computer....
[04:06] <Jimerson> snook353 yeah true, but I still need to get this fixed so I can use the trackpad in the car or in class, or other places where using a mouse is not possible
[04:06] <ArrenLex> ryanacka, try the command
[04:06] <crimsun> rapha: the release notes have same basic notes, but feel free to flesh them out
[04:06] <ArrenLex> ryancka: convert -delay 20 *.png foo.gif
[04:07] <snook353> yeah.  i'm lookin forward to edgy, jimerson
[04:07] <DrSpin> Just installed Dapper... semms that the file /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant is missing
[04:07] <rapha> crimsun: as soon as I find them out :)
[04:07] <Jimerson> snook353 is edgy suppose to fix this problem?
[04:07] <snook353> maybe someone will catch this prob, jimerson.  idk
[04:07] <gunfus> hsunda3: I am at medium confort  with linux.. but not the source.. there is of course tons of stuff that I need to get more familiar..
[04:07] <DrSpin> oh... and the config files aren't there
[04:07] <Ubuntu-ne> If my X config is hosed and It's a fresh install it would faster/easier to just reinstall rather than try to fix my xconf. I'm a Linux noob and can't vi my way out of a sack.
[04:07] <Jimerson> snook353 if I ever figure it out I'll let you know
[04:07] <DrSpin> anyone know where I can get a package that properly installs?
[04:07] <snook353> ok, thanks jimerson
[04:08] <ArrenLex> Ubuntu-ne: if you don't understand vi, use nano. More intuitive.
[04:08] <hsunda3> gunfus: ok! good luck .. you could try Gentoo ... but remember, watching tons of messages scroll by your screen doesn't necessarily *teach* you anything. You can learn just about everything you want to know with Ubuntu as well...don't go by the misconception that if you install everything from source you will learn more. You can do all that from Ubuntu as well..
[04:08] <krang> does anyone know why my disks are getting fskd every time I boot? It's a 250GB disk, and it's getting really annoying
[04:08] <Ubuntu-ne> I was going to try to fire up Lynx to research the problem but U doesn't have Lynx installed by default?? I'm up on a SLAX live CD right now.
[04:08] <totall_6_7> Ubuntu-ne: use nano or gedit they are easer to use than vi
[04:08] <snook353> well, i'll wait a while to see who else has a prob with the newest epiphany....i like it better than firefox
[04:08] <hsunda3> krang: how are you shutting down the machine?
[04:09] <krang> hsunda3: with the trusty shutdown option in the GUi menu
[04:09] <ArrenLex> Ubuntu-ne: if you want lynx, install it. apt-get install lynx
[04:09] <crimsun> Ubuntu-ne: w3m is in the ubuntu-standard seed.
[04:09] <ArrenLex> snook: epiphany doesn't support all the plugins I'm used to and comes with even more stupid Gnome dependencies. ;_;
[04:09] <hsunda3> krang: hmm.... normally a fsck happens every once in 30 reboots.. (or something) .. sometimes it happens if *the machine was not shutdown cleanly* ...
[04:10] <w30> totall_6_7, is nano a terminal app?
[04:10] <snook353> hmmm :(, jimerson
[04:10] <gunfus> hsunda3: I am with you.. back in the days of RH, for which my server is still on RH.. I have to often install everything from source.. and it really wasn't very motivating.. specially because of the problems that I was having compiling and looking at tons of mesgs scroll through my console without much knwoledge
[04:10] <krang> hsunda3: I know, but this is doing it every time, regardless (no messages about "30 times without check" either)
[04:10] <ArrenLex> w30: nano is a terminal app, yes.
[04:10] <snook353> i don't like opera, and firefox Has Been unstable, jimeson
[04:10] <Ubuntu-ne> hmm....
[04:10] <Jimerson> snook353 yes?
[04:10] <snook353> jimerson, i'll see about this newest firefox
[04:10] <totall_6_7> w30: i have no clue on nano, i was just echoing what was said, I only use gedit, its simple and works
[04:10] <Ubuntu-ne> Thanks for the input on nano and gedit..
[04:10] <Jimerson> snook353 ok
[04:11] <hsunda3> gunfus: lol .. the whole message scrolling will increase your geek factor in front of your friends through. The terminal always seems to carry some geek points with it ..
[04:11] <snook353> jimerson, it Had been unstable
[04:11] <Ubuntu-ne> is gedit a terminal app?
[04:11] <suff0kate> how do you make yourself owner cause i'm the only one that uses this comp and i want to have full access to read and write on files
[04:11] <hsunda3> krang: hmm... is there anything you could figure out from the output of the 'dmesg' command?
[04:11] <ArrenLex> Ubuntu-ne: gedit is a gnome notepad clone. Graphical.
[04:11] <krang> hsunda3: good suggestion, I'll go see
[04:11] <totall_6_7> Ubuntu-ne:  you can run gedit from terminal yes
[04:11] <snook353> oops, ok arrenlex
[04:11] <Ubuntu-ne> Ah. that's what I thought. (hense the g)
[04:11] <sureshot> hey if i run windows xp in a vm would i be able to run games and such such as swat 3 and 4 ghost recon and such
[04:11] <hsunda3> gunfus: by back in the days, do you mean RH when it was still free? Wow .. then you must have bene using linux for long indeed...
[04:11] <ArrenLex> suff0kate: that's exactly what Linux is designed NOT to let you do. If you need root access temporarily, prefix the command with sudo.
[04:11] <Dr_willis> sureshot,  not very well.
[04:12] <suff0kate> k
[04:12] <Tonren> Hey guys, why are my images in Firefox garbled?  How do I fix it?
[04:12] <hsunda3> sureshot: not sure.. guess you need lots of memory for that.. and still not very smoothly. VM I don't think is meant for gaming, atleast not yet.
[04:12] <gunfus> hsunda3: yeah.. it increases my geek factor.. If i know what it reads.. otherwise.. when they ask me I will totally be such a dumb-head (for being politicly correct)
[04:12] <hsunda3> gunfus lol..
[04:12] <bruenig> Tonren, are you sure they are just resizing them, if so you can click on them to see them fully sized
[04:12] <bruenig> aren't*
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> How to define mount options for drives that are managed through hal?  For instance, I would like to have all USB flash drives mount with the sync option rather than the default of async, but of course such devices do not exist in fstab.
[04:13] <gunfus> hsunda3: yep.. back in the days when it was free.. I started with RH5.2 and I was enthusiastic.. but I nevere really understood much of the code
[04:13] <sureshot> thanks all dont have cedega on disability not money to buy it and i want to cut up my xp cd and send it back to ms as a statement
[04:13] <Tonren> bruenig: Oh, they're certainly quite garbled.  Chunks of the image have been moved around, the coloration is off... all sorts of horrible things are happening to my poor images.
[04:13] <Tonren> bruenig: And it happens on every website!
[04:13] <hsunda3> gunfus: indeed..it's never too late to learn !
[04:13] <ThePirateMonk3y> does anyone know about support on ubuntu for creative media players?
[04:13] <gunfus> hsunda3: Now.. things are getting a lot better since I have 5 years of coding experience not particulary in C but in java.. C i did it for a year last year
[04:13] <hsunda3> ok
[04:14] <ArrenLex> Hi Jesus!
[04:14] <dtrump> hello
[04:14] <BankHead> hello
[04:14] <man_id_unknown> How common is WxWidgets?
[04:14] <BankHead> don't know
[04:14] <dtrump> I'll soon find out
[04:14] <Ubuntu-ne> Well thanks for the help. I'm going to switch over to the DD live cd and see about reinstalling. I'll be back.
[04:14] <hsunda3> man_id_unknown: there are some good apps written with wx. I think Audacity is one.
[04:14] <crimsun> man_id_unknown: quite common.
[04:14] <gunfus> hsunda3: I remenber one day I was able to turn my fan on or off on my laptop.. that defently put me high in the geek factor in front of my friends..
[04:15] <krang> hsunda3: Nope, no mention. it probes the IDE interfaces and recognises filesystems, but that's it
[04:15] <man_id_unknown> crimsun: is it common enough to create a program with it without worry?
[04:15] <gunfus> hsunda3: the only thing though.. is that I did leave linux alone for a long time.. since about RH6 to one year ago..
[04:15] <crimsun> man_id_unknown: yes
[04:15] <man_id_unknown> hsunda3: is it common enough to create a program with it without worry?
[04:15] <gunfus> hsunda3: so i was away for a few years..
[04:15] <viator> remove firefox
[04:15] <man_id_unknown> crimsun: thank you. I appreceate that.
[04:15] <regionalp> I am installing ubuntu on my laptop, which has an 80 gig hard drive
[04:15] <regionalp>           with 11 gigs free.  I want to keep the other stuff on there.  I
[04:15] <regionalp>           can't decide in the ubuntu installation whether to select this
[04:15] <regionalp>           option: "Resize SCSI1 (o, o, o), partition #2 (sda) and use the
[04:15] <regionalp>           freed space" or this option: "use the largest continuous free
[04:15] <regionalp>           space."  Can someone please explain what these options mean? I don't
[04:15] <regionalp>           want to fuck things up.
[04:15] <hsunda3> man_id_unknown: yes why not ...
[04:15] <knixtech> please help - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25623/
[04:15] <sureshot> would anyone know ware i could get my hands on cedega
[04:15] <ArrenLex> man_id: if your program is going to be in a package, then the dependencies are resolved automatically.
[04:15] <crimsun> vlc is another well known program that uses WxW
[04:15] <hsunda3> krang: hmmm... I am lost now ... sorry ..
[04:15] <gunfus> ubotu: tell regionalp about pastebin
[04:15] <hsunda3> man_id_unknown: of course! VLC ..
[04:15] <ArrenLex> !pastebin > regionalp
[04:16] <man_id_unknown> hsunda3: I don't have a reason. I just truly didn't know.
[04:16] <snook353> i've been thinkin abou trying kunbuntu dapper.  would that be a good choice?
[04:16] <man_id_unknown> hsunda3: What is VLC, Sir?
[04:16] <w30> totall_6_7, for command line I like pico that comes with pine mail
[04:16] <Ubuntu-ne> If anyone wants to get a chuckle at watching a noob (that would be me) knock his head around Ubuntu I'll be blogging about it. (www.friedgeek.com) Thanks again.
[04:16] <knixtech> sureshot, buy it?
[04:16] <DrSpin> could someone help me get WPA working on Dapper?? It seems the package for wpasupplicant is horribly broken (no init script, no config files)
[04:16] <viator> sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[04:16] <hsunda3> man_id_unknown: VLC is a popular media player on Linux/Windows/Mac ... open source, plays all kinds of files ...
[04:16] <Ash-Fox> How would one extract a bunch of zip files in a directory? unzip -d *.zip ?
[04:16] <krang> hsunda3: No trouble. Thanks anyway!
[04:16] <knixtech> DrSpin, network-manager
[04:16] <gunfus> hsunda3: anyways.. thanks for the website.. I will look into it.. maybe one day I will be more useful like you :D
[04:16] <viator> and reinstall it see if that remedies it
[04:16] <ArrenLex> Mention me, Ubuntu-ne! ;)
[04:17] <WhiteNoise> regionalp, if you don't mind an 11gig ubuntu install, why not 'user the largest .. free space'?
[04:17] <Ubuntu-ne> Will do ArrenLex.
[04:17] <sureshot> knixtech gee i wish i had thought of that
[04:17] <DrSpin> knixtech: UH ??
[04:17] <hsunda3> gunfus: I just happen to know it, becuase I am taking an operating systems class in university .. best wishes anyway!
[04:17] <man_id_unknown> hsunda3: Thank you. This really helps a lot. I need a easy-to-use yet popular gui. I think this is the one. ;) Thanks, SIr.
[04:17] <knixtech> hehe
[04:17] <Astray> Is it possible to change the hide/unhide speed of the gnome panels?
[04:17] <knixtech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25623/
[04:17] <malv> when is Edgy due?
[04:17] <viator> make SURE the is no .mozilla folder
[04:17] <viator> in your home dir
[04:17] <knixtech> DrSpin, install network-manager
[04:17] <viator> delete it
[04:17] <knixtech> DrSpin, and WPA will work just fine
[04:17] <ArrenLex> knixtech: where is this package from? It's newer than your system.
[04:18] <avagant> Wow, this fluxbox is like BAM BAM
[04:18] <GigaClon> I have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.3
[04:18] <GigaClon> gcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory
[04:18] <sureshot> sureshot is on disability and fixed income and money for things like that is not avaliable
[04:18] <knixtech> ArrenLex, I got it on the site, and if i do a apt-get same thing
[04:18] <knixtech> sureshot, search google
[04:18] <DrSpin> knixtech: are you sure you're not thinking WEP -- because that works fine
[04:19] <knixtech> DrSpin, no, WPA,  i am using it to talk to you ;)
[04:19] <alex_ubuntu> I have a printer on a print server, anyone know how to configure it... I had it working in RH8 with parport and lpd but can't figure it out on dapper
[04:19] <micahcowan> knixtech, kudos for using electricsheep ^_^ ...btw, afaik it doesn't work well with gnome-screensaver (I'm using xscreensaver)
[04:19] <micahcowan> Oddly, I haven't encountered the trouble you seem to be having, either on dapper or edgy :/
[04:19] <Tonren> Hey guys, why are my images in Firefox garbled?  How do I fix it?
[04:19] <alex_ubuntu> the driver is loaded I just need to re-direct it properly
[04:19] <DrSpin> knixtech: it installs by default it seems... still no wpa...
[04:19] <viator> i have wpa on too
[04:20] <viator> :)
[04:20] <knixtech> DrSpin, gnome or KDE?
[04:20] <DrSpin> how did you configure it??
[04:20] <DrSpin> GNOME, XFCE
[04:20] <viator> dud its simple in the gui
[04:20] <DrSpin> been screwing with wpasupplicant for a couple horus now and still nothing
[04:20] <knixtech> DrSpin, do you have network-manager-gnome installed?
[04:20] <viator> in network manager
[04:20] <DrSpin> no -- it won't find any interfaces
[04:20] <Max_-> xmule or amule?
[04:21] <bur[n] er> DrSpin: it will if you comment out /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:21] <viator> yeah go to ect/network/interfaces
[04:21] <suff0kate> how do you grant read and write access to /ect/privoxy/config  ??
[04:21] <knixtech> micahcowan, ty for the kudos
[04:21] <viator> and comment everything out
[04:21] <viator> except
[04:21] <viator> lo
[04:21] <viator> loopback
[04:21] <DrSpin> or rename ??
[04:21] <DrSpin> LOL
[04:21] <feross> DrSpin: goto  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com  little wpa howto
[04:22] <micahcowan> knixtech, where did you get the electricsheep .deb you're trying to install?
[04:22] <viator> comment out you know put # signs infornt of
[04:22] <kintaro0e> hi guys.how to disable the root account?
[04:22] <w30> alex_ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[04:22] <knixtech> micahcowan, i got it from the electricsheep.org
[04:23] <knixtech> micahcowan, latest for debian
[04:23] <micahcowan> kintaro0e, by default, it's disabled for login. If you've enabled it, you can delete root's password. Is that what you mean, or do you mean something else?
[04:23] <micahcowan> knixtech, do you currently have it installed via the ubuntu repositories, or not installed at all? I'd recommend that you use the Ubuntu-specific .deb, if you don't.
[04:23] <adam> Help I can't install a package! log file details here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25624/
[04:24] <knixtech> micahcowan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/
[04:24] <alex_ubuntu> w30, been ther tried that different config
[04:24] <Astray> Does anyone know if it's possible to assig na different wallpaper per workspace?
[04:24] <ArrenLex> adam: why are you trying to install this package?
[04:24] <alex_ubuntu> this is not a linux print server it is a router with a parallel port print server built in
[04:24] <adam> to get MTP working w/ my mp3 player
[04:24] <regionalp> I am installing ubuntu on my laptop, which has an 80 gig hard drive with 11 gigs free.  I want to keep the other stuff on there.  I can't decide in the ubuntu installation whether to select this option: "Resize SCSI1 (o, o, o), partition #2 (sda) and use the freed space" or this option: "use the largest continuous free space."  Can someone please explain what these options mean? I don't want to fuck things up.
[04:25] <ArrenLex> adam: does it provide a somehow better version of the libntp package you already have installed?
[04:25] <sg2> how do i install divx codecs?
[04:25] <ArrenLex> libnjb5? **
[04:25] <knixtech> sg2, easyubuntu
[04:25] <bm0nk> Can someone do me a favour and type    modprobe firmware_class   and tell me if it says   FATAL: Module firmware_class not found   ? :S
[04:25] <knixtech> !easyubuntu
[04:25] <ArrenLex> !codecs > sg2
[04:25] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:25] <viator> get a real printserver
[04:26] <knixtech> !easyubuntu > sg2
[04:26] <ArrenLex> $ modprobe firmware_class
[04:26] <ArrenLex> FATAL: Module firmware_class not found.
[04:26] <viator> or a real networked printer
[04:26] <knixtech> micahcowan, and yes , all the repos are enabled
[04:26] <bm0nk> ArrenLex : thanks
[04:26] <feross> regionalp: you can do costum partition and do it yourself
[04:26] <adam> ??? like a more recent version is installed?
[04:26] <alex_ubuntu> I have a dapper server up but haven'y figured it out yet..
[04:27] <micahcowan> adam, it looks like it's probably safe for you to force overwriting. Try running the dpkg again with --force-conflicts?
[04:27] <kintaro0e> micahcowan: hi i remember my friend told me using the passwd or sudo something that will disable the root account
[04:27] <feross> regionalp: when the installer talks about use continuous free space, are you sure it's talking about the 11GB you can use?
[04:27] <Mat_666> Hello...   I have a problem with external SATA disks...   they won't shutdown properly and I need to fsck them at reboot....   tried to script a sync+umount in a custom etc/rc1.d/K88 script, but it won't help....  any ideas ?
[04:27] <adam> ok i'll try
[04:28] <micahcowan> kintaro0e, the root account is disabled by default on Ubuntu. Have you done anything to enable it/do you have a root password?
[04:28] <micahcowan> knixtech, hm.... which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:28] <regionalp> feross: no, I have no idea what is going on.  I have 1 partition presently, 80 GB NTFS windows hard drive.  11 gb is empty on this partion.  I want to install ubuntu on this 11 gb. How do I achieve this?
[04:29] <knixtech> micahcowan, dapper
[04:29] <kintaro0e> micahcowan: yes.i enable it..but now i remember its just like this: sudo passwd -l root
[04:29] <kintaro0e> right?
[04:29] <feross> Mat_666: external SATA disks? are they hooked up via USB or are they just SATA disks but they're hanging out of your box? ;}
[04:29] <iCod> Here's my problem, on startup loading hardware drivers and something else right before it fails, reducing startup time to about 5-10 ten minutes because it hangs before it says failed. Would anyone have clue of what's going on?
[04:29] <Mat_666> eSATA disks
[04:29] <adam> micahcowan did u try that right? cause when I try to put "sudo checkinstall --force-conflicts" (without quotes) in the terminal it says it's an unrecognized option
[04:29] <adam> type*
[04:29] <micahcowan> kintaro0e, yes, that sounds like just what you want.
[04:29] <kintaro0e> micahcowan: yeah..thanks
[04:29] <ArrenLex> adam: Why are you checkinstalling? You already have a .deb backage.
[04:30] <viator> !electricsheep
[04:30] <Mat_666> it's a SATA card with eSATA connectors.  the eSATA connector goes into a eSATA enclosure, which has a regular SATA connection inside.
[04:30] <ubotu> electricsheep: screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2669 kB, installed size 3376 kB
[04:30] <feross> regionalp: ohh, you should resize the NTFS partition.
[04:30] <ArrenLex> adam: could you please paste the output of dpkg -l libnjb5 | grep ii
[04:30] <knixtech> viator, woot,  now can you fix it for me?
[04:30] <knixtech> viator, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/
[04:31] <regionalp> feross: how? In windows? may I do that in the ubuntu installer?
[04:31] <adam> ii  libnjb5        2.2.4-3ubuntu3 Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox library
[04:31] <feross> regionalp: hmm, never had to do it with the installer but I think you can.
[04:31] <micahcowan> adam, yes: the option I gave you was for dpkg. Hm... I wouldn't recommend overwriting something installed by a .deb with something from checkinstall... I think you probably don't want to install from source. You may be wanting to install libnjb-dev (note the -dev) instead.
[04:31] <ArrenLex> adam: you seem to be upgrading. If you're using checkinstall to build from source, specify the "name" to be libnjb5 to do it cleanly and avoid all these problems.
[04:31] <feross> regionalp: I've done it with qtparted.
[04:32] <ArrenLex> adam: and make sure you specify version to be 2.2.5
[04:32] <ninwa> Anybody here familiar with setting up ATI drivers for the Radeon 9800 Pro on Edgy?
[04:32] <ArrenLex> ninwa: are you having problems?
[04:32] <w30> feross, does a ntfs partiton need to be defragged?
[04:32] <viator> remove it and try reinstalling it for sh#$% and giggles
[04:32] <feross> w30: yes
[04:33] <ninwa> ArrenLex, yes. My xorg.conf looks right, and I downloaded and installed the packages, but fglrxinfo doesn't show it as being ATI drivers.
[04:33] <knixtech> !electricsheep > knixtech
[04:33] <micahcowan> knixtech, I'm afraid I've never seen errors from apt like that (for those reading along: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25625/). I'm not sure how to get around that.  Wait, are you sure it didn't install? After the QT errors (which seem quite odd coming from apt-get), it appears to continue installing...
[04:33] <ninwa> At this point I'd go for any advice :)
[04:33] <ArrenLex> ninwa: downloaded and installed what packages?
[04:33] <ninwa> I had it working on dapper, it was painless
[04:34] <ninwa> Arren, one second, I did a lot of stuff out of desperation at one point, haha. Let me bring up the guide I used.
[04:34] <knixtech> micahcowan, well it does install, because it shows up in ss,  but doesnt run
[04:34] <ArrenLex> knixtech: I don't think those errors are from apt. Have you, by any chance, launched a program with an & switch earlier in this terminal session?
[04:34] <suff0kate> how am i supposed to edit the damn config.txt when i can't even save it
[04:34] <knixtech> ArrenLex, nope
[04:34] <suff0kate> and when i try using the access stuff it doesn't work
[04:34] <GigaClon> gcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory
[04:34] <jrib> ubotu: tell suff0kate about sudo
[04:34] <GigaClon> I have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.3
[04:34] <micahcowan> knixtech, doesn't run? Are you using gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver? What happens when you try to run it?
[04:34] <ArrenLex> ...
[04:34] <Abst> ...
[04:34] <jrib> suff0kate: by "access stuff" you mean sudo?
[04:34] <feross> regionalp: so what are you doing?
[04:35] <ArrenLex> What happen? Somebody set up us the bomb?
[04:35] <Abst> Bwhaha
[04:35] <knixtech> wtf
[04:35] <Abst> Thats cool
[04:35] <fildo> wtf
[04:35] <SinnerG> lol
[04:35] <suff0kate> no i want to add a line to the config but it won't let me
[04:35] <viator> bots?
[04:35] <jrib> suff0kate: what config?
[04:35] <w30> ooooooooooohh, the twilight zone
[04:35] <AlReece45> that was a lot of people getting off at once...
[04:35] <suff0kate> privoxy
[04:35] <knixtech> micahcowan, how do i know which one i am using?
[04:35] <adam> here's what I got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25626/
[04:35] <SinnerG> split :p
[04:35] <jrib> suff0kate: use sudo, like so:    sudo nano /etc/foo
[04:35] <ninwa> ArrenLex: I followed Method 2 - http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[04:35] <suff0kate> k
[04:36] <kitche> AlReece45: it was a net split
[04:36] <Abst> Whats a net split
[04:36] <Mat_666> I have a problem with external eSATA disks...   they won't shutdown properly and I need to fsck them at reboot....   tried to script a sync+umount in a custom etc/rc1.d/K88 script, but it won't help.... I'm sure this script is ran because I created small text file in it to verify it is run.  I put the script at K88 because I want it to be ran last, juste before the syslogd shutdown (these are data partitions, not system ones...  however I have a virtual ma
[04:36] <ArrenLex> adam: no. Run the command "checkinstall". Then when it brings up that screen when it shows you the values, press 2 and enter. Type libnjb5. Press enter.
[04:36] <ichabod> hi
[04:36] <knixtech> micahcowan, if i run "electricsheep" in shell, it comes up and plays the sheep, but if i set it to ss, it does nothing
[04:36] <iCod> Here's my problem, on startup loading hardware drivers and something else right before it fails, reducing startup time to about 5-10 ten minutes because it hangs before it says failed. Would anyone have clue of what's going on?
[04:36] <micahcowan> knixtech, if you haven't changed anything, you're using gnome-screensaver. Do you simply get a black screen when you're running it? (BTW, have you used electricsheep before?)
[04:36] <ninwa> Arren, let me retry a few things first, actually. I believe I might have missed a step.
[04:36] <knixtech> micahcowan, yes a black screen
[04:37] <knixtech> micahcowan, i use it on windows, so yes i know how it works
[04:37] <adam> ok. now enter to continue?
[04:37] <knixtech> ack i said windows
[04:37] <ichabod> I'm running an intel 865G graphics card, but when I try to run Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, I hear sound, but see nothing.
[04:37] <ArrenLex> ninwa: are you certain that your card won't be supported by the driver installed via method 1?
[04:37] <micahcowan> knixtech, unfortunately, I haven't gotten it running on gnome-screensaver recently. I had to install xscreensaver (apt-get install xscreensaver), which mostly replaces gnome-screensaver.
[04:38] <knixtech> great, ill try that
[04:38] <knixtech> ty
[04:38] <ArrenLex> adam: yes, if "name" is libnjb5 and "version" is 2.2.5, press enter.
[04:38] <ninwa> Arren, no I'm not. Do you suggest I retrace the steps in method 1?
[04:38] <ArrenLex> ninwa: I strongly suggest you use the default ubuntu packages if at all possible.
[04:38] <ichabod> I figure it's a driver problem, but I haven't a clue; I'm new to linux, and am running dapper drake.
[04:38] <ArrenLex> ninwa: much less... messing.
[04:39] <knixtech> micahcowan, how do i use the xscreensaver?
[04:39] <nrdb> I am looking into video capture, if a card uses the bttv module does that mean it uses software compression ?
[04:39] <adam> i still got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25628/
[04:39] <viator> samewa uou use gnome-screensaver
[04:39] <micahcowan> knixtech, I should warn you that the screensaver config doesn't seem to be in System -> Preferences for xscreensaver, though. You may need to manually run xscreensaver-demo. And, you'll probably need to log out/log in for xscreensaver to come up with your gnome session.
[04:39] <ArrenLex> adam: view the log. Tell me what it says.
[04:40] <knixtech> micahcowan, ty
[04:40] <tarmath> sorry newbie question here lads... Ive always wondered how I could see why a package is being installed when I request another package... like what is the dependency tree... is there any application that can tell me that?
[04:40] <adam> o wait easy to fix. log says operation requires superuser privilege. I just use sudo right?
[04:40] <feross> ichabod: not sure exactly but I would run the game in 'safe' mode and change the video setting to the lowest at first and then try it. Then notch it up little by little until you get best resolution without fudging things up.
[04:40] <ichabod> okay... how do I run in safe mode? I'm a complete noob.
[04:40] <kitche> tarmath: you could go to the software website that your install it says the dependencies on there
[04:40] <ArrenLex> adam: I strongly suggest you run the command from scratch as "sudo checkinstall" rather than just installing the generated package with sudo.
[04:41] <feross> ichabod: I'm not familiar with the game but you can probably find it on the game website or google.. G Knows ALL.
[04:41] <motin> Updated: http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToComfortablySwitchFromWindowsToUbuntu  I appreciate feedback and impromptu corrections (the wiki is open for everyone)
[04:41] <ArrenLex> feross: if you run the command "glxgears", do you see it?
[04:41] <ichabod> I searched google for a couple days (!!!) but to no avail.
[04:41] <tarmath> kitche: well the dependencies im wondering about dont seem to be directly needed by the application I want to install...
[04:41] <nrdb> ichabod: there are ordinary users (default) and then root access (must be admin and give password) that can do anything.
[04:42] <feross> ArrenLex: yes I see it but it runs SLOOOOWWW for me because I have a SiS card in my lappy.
[04:42] <ichabod> So if I want to run in safe mode, I have to have root access?
[04:42] <kitche> tarmath they probably are just that they are needed for the other things to work in that app
[04:42] <ArrenLex> feross -> ichabod for glxgears, sorry
[04:42] <decko> Hi guys!!! There some way to install Ubuntu in a LVM Volume???
[04:42] <tarmath> kitche: yes, but I want to know which one...
[04:43] <ichabod> glxgears? Yes, I see them.
[04:43] <ArrenLex> decko: check out the alternate install.
[04:43] <feross> ArrenLex: oh ok, was going to say no 3D support for SiS ... Lesson learned, always buy lappys with Nvidia
[04:43] <adam> here's the instructions I found on the ubuntu forums to get my mp3 player working on ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250 does this help? I ran into the original problem at step 12 under manual instructions
[04:43] <ArrenLex> Nvidia owns all.
[04:43] <ichabod> I have crappy intel 'extreme' graphics 2. Ugh.
[04:43] <feross> ichabod: no, it all depends on the game
[04:43] <ichabod> okay, so how do I run it in safe mode?
[04:43] <ArrenLex> adam: no problem. There is no issue. Just run "sudo checkinstall" right now.
[04:43] <bur[n] er> intel extreme works with beryl for me :)  I like it
[04:43] <ArrenLex> ichabod: do you get 3D acceleration?
[04:44] <ichabod> I don't know. How do I tell?
[04:44] <kitche> bur[n] er aiglx?
[04:44] <jmerlin> what is the command to display the gnome "Run Application" dialog?
[04:44] <bur[n] er> kitche: si
[04:44] <decko> ArrenLex: What is this??? a new system??? Or can I do this with the liveCD???
[04:44] <ArrenLex> ichabod: if you do, be happy with the card -- Intel is the only open-source 3D driver. :)
[04:44] <feross> ichabod: go to google.com type in. wolfinstein safe mode ... then hit enter.. look through articles
[04:44] <bur[n] er> jmerlin: Alt+F2
[04:44] <adam> y
[04:44] <adam> oops
[04:44] <nrdb> ichabod: an ordinary user can't modify the most of the setup files for linux so is 'safe', the root/admin user can change anything so is 'unsafe'
[04:44] <jmerlin> not alt+f2
[04:44] <bruenig> bur[n] er, that is not a command
[04:44] <suff0kate> how do you save in gnu nano?
[04:44] <jmerlin> the actual terminal command
[04:44] <ichabod> oh... okay! Thanks. I'll be back in a bit. I'm running it in safe mode, then, I guess.
[04:44] <jmerlin> i need to add it to my menu via alacarte
[04:44] <bur[n] er> jmerlin: isn't it part of metacity?
[04:44] <jmerlin> and you can't add alt+f2 as a command
[04:44] <jmerlin> perhaps
[04:45] <ArrenLex> suffokate: ctrl + x, y, s
[04:45] <jimerson> how do I change permissions on a file that is read/write for the owner?
[04:45] <ArrenLex> sorry, ctrl+x, y, enter
[04:45] <nickv111> How would one go about installing cryptsetup on Dapper Drake?
[04:45] <bur[n] er> jmerlin: it's not part of metacity... it works in beryl too :\
[04:45] <nrdb> ichabod: I presume you have a ubuntu setup?
[04:45] <jmerlin> hm..
[04:45] <nickv111> apt-cache search cryptsetup doesn't turn it up
[04:45] <ichabod> Yes, I do.
[04:45] <jmerlin> what is the command then -_-
[04:45] <tarmath> jmerlin: have you tried alt-f2 and then look at the process list?
[04:45] <jmerlin> how do you check the plist?
[04:45] <nickv111> Maybe it's in a different repository?
[04:45] <adam> i still get errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25630/
[04:45] <tarmath> jmerlin:  ps aux in a terminal
[04:45] <bur[n] er> jmerlin: got me ;)
[04:46] <jmerlin> jimerson: chown to change the owner or chmod to add the flags
[04:46] <ArrenLex> adam: yes you are getting errors, because you're not changing the name to libnjb5 like I told you to.
[04:46] <jmerlin> jimerson: you might need to use sudo if it's owned by root
[04:46] <tarmath> jmerlin: do it before and after... while the window is showing
[04:46] <kitche> jmerlin you can pas aux or top
[04:46] <jure> hello i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner the auto.log file. someone help me ? (sorry for english)
[04:46] <nrdb> ichabod: if you put 'nrdb:' your message will be highlighted for me.  when you installed ubuntu you where asked for a user name, are you loged in with that name now?
[04:47] <ichabod> nrdb: yes, I am logged into that name.
[04:47] <jimerson> jmerlin thanks
[04:48] <nrdb> ichabod: ok, this user has admin ability, open a terminal, and I will demonstate for you (nothing important will be changed).
[04:48] <ichabod> kk
[04:48] <tarmath> sorry newbie question here lads... Ive always wondered how I could see why a package is being installed when I request another package... like what is the dependency tree... is there any application that can tell me that?
[04:48] <viator> apt
[04:48] <ichabod> nrdb: It always just asks for a password whenever I want to do something adminish.
[04:48] <ArrenLex> tarmath: do you mean, which file does it need?
[04:49] <nrdb> ichabod: yes.
[04:49] <jimerson> jmerlin what command follows sudo in order to open the file?
[04:49] <kitche> ArrenLex he means what software that is needed to make that app run like its's suppose to
[04:49] <lufis> Tough question, but can anyone just give me the quick and dirty of what's the best filesystem?
[04:49] <jure> hello i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. someone help me ?
[04:49] <ichabod> nrdb: But what happens is that when I run Enemy Territory in console, I get a black screen, but I can hear the music.
[04:49] <segfault> tarmath, man apt-get also apt-cach show pkg-name will show u details including dependencies of pkg
[04:50] <nrdb> ichabod: I don't know what 'Enemy Territory' is
[04:50] <nickv111> Nevermind. My /etc/apt/sources.list was fubar
[04:50] <ichabod> nrdb: oh... lol it's a WWII fps
[04:50] <tarmath> segfault: ive already looked into those, what I want is the dependency tree, not only the direct dependencies... have I overlooked something?
[04:50] <nrdb> ichabod: a game?
[04:50] <ichabod> nrdb: yes
[04:50] <dailama> Anyone here to help?
[04:50] <dailama> I have a question if so?
[04:50] <segfault> lufis, opinions vary, i like reiser for desktop
[04:50] <nickv111> dailama: Please do not ask to ask
[04:50] <nickv111> dailama: Just ask.
[04:51] <ArrenLex> !ask
[04:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:51] <jmerlin> jimerson: open it how?
[04:51] <dailama> nickv111, how do i start something from within a terminal window
[04:51] <nrdb> ichabod: does it start with a intro clip?
[04:51] <jmerlin> how do i close a process with ps?
[04:51] <ichabod> nrdb: yes
[04:51] <jure> i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?
[04:51] <tarmath> ArrenLex: in fact im trying to figure out why installing some php web app makes the system want to install perl
[04:51] <dailama> nickv111, and not lose the terminal window
[04:51] <segfault> jmerlin, u dont use kill
[04:51] <nickv111> dailama: Just type the program name.
[04:51] <lufis> segfault: Well, I've been trying to figure out which one :P So many to choose from... and I refuse to use ext3 just because it's default ;)
[04:51] <nickv111> dailama: What program are you trying to start, for example?
[04:51] <adam> ok thanks that part worked, but now on a different part of those instructions it says No package 'glib-2.0' found, No package 'gthread-2.0' found, and No package 'gtk+-2.0' found. how can i quickly get these packages?
[04:51] <ichabod> nrdb: but when I press space bar, which skips the clip, it's still black. And I don't know how to quit it after that either.
[04:51] <ArrenLex> tarmath: ah. Yes, I've wondered that myself many times. If you find such a tool, please tell me!
[04:51] <lufis> segfault: I'm actually using resier right now...
[04:51] <ichabod> nrdb: so I have to coldboot my pc (shock)
[04:51] <jmerlin> kill works :>
[04:52] <jure> i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?
[04:52] <nickv111> dailama: Oh, I see what you're saying
[04:52] <dailama> for instance i'm using tilda.....i start say...xmms from the terminal window
[04:52] <ArrenLex> adam: apt-cache search for those packages.
[04:52] <dailama> i lose the terminal
[04:52] <dailama> until i close xmms
[04:52] <nex_> can anyone help me out with the alien command?
[04:52] <nex_> i need to install maya
[04:52] <segfault> lufis, i recommend reiser, ive used it for many years without any issue, it is quite fast and stable, and chks after an improper shutdown are faster than with ext2 or 3
[04:52] <nickv111> dailama: You want to run a program, but you don't want to lose control of the terminal
[04:52] <nrdb> ichabod: don't know what going on here, if you try and shut down the console, what happens ?
[04:52] <ArrenLex> dailama: instead of "xmms", type "xmms &"
[04:52] <nex_> but they are .rpm;s
[04:52] <dailama> nickv111, exactly
[04:52] <nickv111> dailama: Run it in the background by using an ampersand
[04:52] <bur[n] er> dailama: type "xmms &"
[04:52] <jimerson> jmerlin: I am trying to change the permissions of a file.. how do I open it under root?
[04:52] <nickv111> dailama: Like, "xmms &"
[04:52] <tarmath> ArrenLex: cant possibly believe there wouldnt be one... but Im running out of places to look it up...
[04:52] <bur[n] er> doh ;)
[04:52] <ichabod> nrbd: well, I don't know how to shut down the console. Kind of embarassing.
[04:53] <dailama> nickv111,
[04:53] <lufis> segfault: Great, thank you :)
[04:53] <dailama> interesting
[04:53] <ichabod> nrdb: it's just a black screen, I can't exit at all.
[04:53] <segfault> lufis, np
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> & will put the program in background
[04:53] <nickv111> dailama: Basically, that just runs it in the background
[04:53] <jure> i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?
[04:53] <jure> i deleted auto.log but i dont know owner this file. anybody help me ?
[04:53] <nickv111> dailama: "fg" will put it back into the foreground
[04:53] <ArrenLex> !repeat
[04:53] <nrdb> ichabod: does the whole screen go black?
[04:53] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:53] <nickv111> dailama: Suspend and then "bg" will put it into the background again.
[04:53] <nex_> how do i use the "Alien" command to change the name of a file?
[04:53] <ichabod> nrdb: yup.
[04:53] <ArrenLex> nex: what do you mean, "change the name of a file"?
[04:53] <lufis> jure: Can you rephrase your question?
[04:53] <dailama> nickv111, so does that mean if I close the terminal out the program then dies as well
[04:54] <kitche> nex_: alien is used to convert packages
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> nex_, alien doesn't change the name of the file ... mv does
[04:54] <nex_> that
[04:54] <ichabod> nrdb: it's a full screen program... maddeningly so.
[04:54] <dailama> in front or back?/
[04:54] <nex_> i need to convert the package
[04:54] <jmerlin> jimerson, you don't open it under root to change the permissions
[04:54] <nickv111> dailama: You need to type "^D"
[04:54] <ArrenLex> dailama: yes, the program will still die if you close the term. However, the term will be useable for other commands.
[04:54] <nex_> from .rpm to .deb
[04:54] <lufis> nex_: sudo apt-get install alien
[04:54] <nickv111> dailama: Like, you need to exit the shell before you close the terminal for it to close without killing your process
[04:54] <dailama> interesting
[04:54] <segfault> tarmath, dependency tree, hmm, i dont off such a tool (and havent needed one since i stopped using gentoo), ive always been able to find all the info i need from apt-get
[04:54] <feross> jure: yeah, you don't make any sense. What auto.log? where is it located? why did you delete it? why do you want it back? what does the owner have to do with anything?
[04:54] <nickv111> dailama: "^D" (ctrl-D) will exit your shell, leaving your running processes intact
[04:54] <ArrenLex> nex: sudo alien "package.rpm"
[04:54] <jmerlin> jimerson, you'll use chown to change the user or chmod to change the permissions
[04:55] <nex_> without "" i suppose?
[04:55] <nrdb> ichabod: ok.  now for a Linux trick, if you hold down <ctrl> <alt> keys and press <f1> ... <f7> you get different screen <f7> is the gui.  give it a try now.
[04:55] <segfault> tarmath, err that should read i dont know of ....
[04:55] <jimerson> jmerlin: ok I will try that thanks
[04:55] <ArrenLex> nex: without.
[04:55] <pooru> how do i go about mounting a secondary slave hd?
[04:55] <nex_> ok
[04:55] <jmerlin> dammit what's the command to launch the run command -_-.. i did the ps list by pid and it doesn't show up
[04:55] <jmerlin> at all
[04:55] <nickv111> It's got to be hard to be someone who speaks a language other than English in an English-centered technical world
[04:55] <ichabod> nrdb: cool! so those are like terminals w/o the gui, right?
[04:55] <nex_> and that should change the "package" from .rpm to .deb?
[04:55] <nickv111> Not that the world is English-centered. Just the technical world, it seems.
[04:55] <jmerlin> ran it without, started the run dialog, ran it again
[04:55] <jmerlin> and it doesn't come up..
[04:56] <pooru> when i go to computer it shows up as "Local Slave"
[04:56] <nrdb> ichabod: yes, you can allways kill a program from them.
[04:56] <dailama> nickv111, ctrl-d exits shell...program can run in foreground or background...ampersands free up the terminal when starting apps from the command line....anything else i miss?
[04:56] <ichabod> nrdb: is there a specific command for killing a program?
[04:56] <kitche> jmerlin: you did that in a terminal?
[04:56] <adam> how? sry i'm new to linux....i'm learning tho!
[04:56] <ArrenLex> ichabod: terminals are without the GUI by definition. The GUI terminals are terminal EMULATORS. :P They're a GUI frontend to mimic not having a GUI. Does that make sense?
[04:56] <pooru> but if i double-click on that it says "Unable to mount" b/c /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[04:56] <GigaClon> can some one help me with this
[04:56] <GigaClon> I have this problem when compling with gcc is 3.3
[04:56] <GigaClon> gcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory
[04:56] <ArrenLex> ichabod: killall <program>
[04:56] <jmerlin> yes kitche
[04:56] <GigaClon> but I have installed gcc 3.3 thru synaptic
[04:56] <ichabod> ArrenLex: yes, that makes perfect sense.
[04:57] <jure> lufis : which user is owner /var/log/auth.log file? i deleted this file. and created again. and now owner is root. what can i do. thanks (:
[04:57] <nickv111> dailama: Nope.
[04:57] <nrdb> ichabod: yes 'kill' the trick is you need to know the number of the process you want to kill, have you that console open
[04:57] <feross> pooru: first you need to partition it and format it. then make a directory to mount it to like /mnt/spare ... Then use the mount command to mount.
[04:57] <ArrenLex> jure: to change the owner, type "sudo chown <username> /var/log/auth.log" where <username> is whoever you want to own it.
[04:57] <tarmath> segfault: i used to be on gentoo before too, and im missing that kinda app, Ill see if Ive read past something good for me in the apt-get manual again then...
[04:57] <kitche> GigaClon: install build-essential
[04:57] <GigaClon> i have
[04:57] <ichabod> nrdb: no I don't have it open now... I wasn't sure how to close it again, and I thought I'd jump on here for some help.
[04:58] <jmerlin> the nearest i can find is gksuexec
[04:58] <jmerlin> which lets you run a program as a user
[04:58] <pooru> feross, it already has data on it. it's formatted NTFS from my previous XP install
[04:58] <jure> ArrenLex thanks
[04:58] <CaptainMorgan> what's a good emulator(?) for playing games in ubuntu that run in Win? Im not thinking anything 3-D or intense.. just simple online poker
[04:58] <pooru> i'm trying to get the data off of it
[04:58] <rixth> BHSPitLappy, yo around?
[04:58] <kitche> CaptainMorgan: wine
[04:58] <bignose> hi. i just booted off the livecd, and network manager does not have WPA options for my wireless card, only WEP. what's the deal ?
[04:58] <bur[n] er> CaptainMorgan: wine
[04:58] <segfault> tarmath, :) i find i care less about the extra libs etc that get installed when i dont have to compile them, i just install what i need
[04:58] <ArrenLex> CaptainMorgan: online poker? Like, In a browser?
[04:58] <CaptainMorgan> ArrenLex, nah
[04:58] <nrdb> ichabod: not the game, a console you can type commands in see "Applications->Accesories->Terminal"
[04:58] <CaptainMorgan> clientside
[04:59] <bur[n] er> CaptainMorgan: get official wine repositories to get the latest version
[04:59] <ArrenLex> Captain: wine
[04:59] <CaptainMorgan> wine seems to be the official word on it, thanks ;)
[04:59] <ichabod> nrdb: okay, I have a terminal open, is that what you mean?
[04:59] <feross> pooru: if you do a df -h do you see it mounted anywhere?
[04:59] <GigaClon> there is a weird compling bug with 3.4 and up so I need to use 3.3 i have all the build essentials and what not
[04:59] <Kenny_72454> ello ello
[04:59] <pooru> feross: nope
[04:59] <nrdb> ichabod: yes, now try the command 'ps -A'
[04:59] <adam> arrenlex, i'm new to linux and don't get how to use apt-cache to get and install those 3 packages
[05:00] <pooru> feross: only thing mounted (as far as HD's) is /dev/hda1
[05:00] <tarmath> segfault: right, I generally dont care either, but I dont like perl at all, and when I saw it wanted to install it, I just couldnt do for it without knowing why... at any rate, thanks for your help
[05:00] <bruenig> adam, open up a terminal, applications>accessories>terminal
[05:00] <segfault> adam, apt-get to install pkgs
[05:00] <ArrenLex> adam: "apt-cache search" just searches through the repositories for whatever string you specify.
[05:00] <ichabod> nrdb: I get PID TTY TIME CMD and 7200 pts/1 00:00:00 ps
[05:00] <jmerlin> someone here must know -_-
[05:00] <bruenig> searches the cache you already have
[05:00] <ArrenLex> adam: so if you want a package called bobfred, you would "apt-cache search bobfred" and it would list all the packages with bobfred in name or description.
[05:00] <kitche> jmerlin: try top
[05:00] <ichabod> nrdb: just saw the capital A... kk
[05:00] <ArrenLex> adam: so when you find the package you want, you "apt-get install <package>" it.
[05:01] <GigaClon> any help
[05:01] <PorkkroP> Does XGL work with ATI under ubuntu?
[05:01] <pooru> feross: it also says "could not execute pmount" in the File Browser errors
[05:01] <ArrenLex> adam: remind me why you're compiling a library you already have again?
[05:01] <feross> pooru: ok hold a sec, there's a site with good instructions.
[05:01] <pooru> thanks
[05:01] <segfault> tarmath, np
[05:01] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: do you mean run like you get in windows when you click start-run? Or something else?
[05:01] <bruenig> adam, do sudo apt-get install package, make sure you use sudo
[05:02] <ArrenLex> Yes, adam, sudo when you need to do administrative things like installing things.
[05:02] <rylasasin> what is the channel again for XGL?
[05:02] <Netslayer> I installed edgy, tried "suspend" to power off, it failed and ever since when i restart it hangs for 4 minutes.. please help me fix this "[52]  jumps to [245]  Attempting manual resume  than it goes on to mounting root
[05:02] <rylasasin> ubuntu xgl that is
[05:02] <feross> pooru:  here it is ... http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=585
[05:03] <feross> !ntfs
[05:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:03] <GigaClon> another question how do I get a configure script to generate makefiles that use gcc 3.3?
[05:03] <pooru> feross: thanks, i'll go check it out now
[05:03] <bruenig> rylasasin, #ubuntu-xgl
[05:03] <nrdb> ichabod: that is a list of every process on your computer, when you want to kill a program you need its number (first column), to limit what you see we can use the 'grep' command to only show some of the list.   try (ps -A | grep 'screen'), you sould only see one line now.
[05:03] <CorpseFeeder> Is this page not quite right? http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Quake-HOWTO-3.html - It says in the instructions for installing the demo to do "mv Install/Data/baseq2 ." but that just generates a cannot overwrite directory error.
[05:03] <adam> kk bruenig, arrenlex, it didn't work when I ran the script they provided on the forum post, so i'm following the manual install instructions. here's the thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250
[05:03] <ArrenLex> GigaClon: ./configure -CC=gcc-3.3 typically. Or else make sure it's the only gcc on your system. Or else make sure /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to /usr/bin/gcc-3.3
[05:03] <bruenig> adam, what are you trying to do?
[05:04] <GigaClon> is that for C and C++
[05:04] <ArrenLex> ichabod: to kill a program just type "killall program" ; don't mess with process numbers.
[05:04] <ichabod> nrdb: okay, cool. So to kill a specific one, you just use the PID number?
[05:04] <nrdb> ArrenLex: didn't know about that one.
[05:04] <ichabod> ArrenLex: okay, that makes sense.
[05:04] <CosmoDad> I'm having problems reading PDFs in firefox... it just opens a blank page... can anyone help me (still using breezy)?
[05:04] <bruenig> adam, that looks like fun...
[05:04] <bruenig> CosmoDad, you are using mozilla-acroread?
[05:05] <CosmoDad> bruenig: I've installed that, yes
[05:05] <ichabod> nrdb: So the fact that I get a black screen... any idea there? I tried changing the screen resolution, looked into drivers (useless inquiry, I'm too noobish), and generally sat and wondered a lot.
[05:05] <nrdb> ichabod: yes that one way of doing it.
[05:05] <CosmoDad> bruenig: it used to work before but some time stopped
[05:05] <nocti> is there an app like M$ movie maker? thanks
[05:06] <linkzero> would anyone happen to know how to get settings on GLSlideshow.  i'm trying to tell it where to get the pics from, but there isn't a settings button
[05:06] <CosmoDad> bruenig: any idea?
[05:06] <bruenig> CosmoDad, I hate opening pdfs in the browser, but you might try this as nontechnical and stupid as it may seem. Do sudo apt-get remove mozilla-acroread, and then remove the .adobe directory in your home folder, then reinstall
[05:06] <nrdb> ichabod: no idea on the black screen but it is handy to know how to kill without reseting the whole computer.
[05:06] <GigaClon> I used the -CXX=gcc-3.3 tag but i can't make anything with the files
[05:06] <Netslayer> here's my pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/190553     shows my edgy system hanging for 4 minutes... ideas?
[05:06] <ichabod> nrdb: most definitely! Thanks for that... it'll save me the annoyance of rebooting.
[05:06] <CosmoDad> bruenig: you think .adobe has to do with the FF plugin?
[05:07] <CorpseFeeder> something is missing from the how-to for installing quake2 demo...  "mv Install/Data/baseq2 ." gives me an error.. what is the command meant to be instead?
[05:07] <nrdb> ichabod: is there a website for the game ?
[05:07] <ArrenLex> back, sorry.
[05:07] <ichabod> nrdb: it's a free thingee... there's not a whole lot of support for it.
[05:07] <bruenig> CosmoDad, good point, I am a little messed up today...that wouldn't work anyways. Or at least it wouldn't make any sense to uninstall it
[05:08] <ubuntu> im having problems mounting a harddrive with a live cd
[05:08] <CosmoDad> bruenig: I'll try it anyway :)
[05:08] <bruenig> you could just delete it and then relaunch it and get the same ffect as that
[05:08] <holycow> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/19/1759237
[05:08] <adam> get my stupid Creative Zen Vision: M mp3 player to work on linux! I should have been smarter when i picked an mp3 player and used a UMS one, but I picked the vision: m, which uses MTP (Media Transfer Protocol, i beleive) in the support threads for my mp3 player, it says libmtp adds mtp support to linux and therefor support for my mp3 player. they didn't have much instructions in the support thread, so i searched ubuntu forums and found those ins
[05:08] <adam> tructions (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250) and am trying to follow them but keep getting errors...(I think i need a padded room all my own)
[05:08] <CosmoDad> bruenig: well, didn't work :(
[05:08] <holycow> that looks usefull for all our friends that are trying to setup dual boot in the wrong order
[05:08] <bur[n] er> adam: i've seen reports of it working in Banshee
[05:08] <holycow> :)
[05:08] <FaithX> I know I should know the answer to this but how do I set system-wide variables?
[05:08] <Tokenbad> crossover seems like it is getting better with its new release soon
[05:08] <ArrenLex> adam: but you seem to already have that library installed.
[05:08] <tarmath> well heck, when I go through aptitude, installing the application makes it want to install perl and lots of other stuff, but going directly with apt-get doesnt... im not using aptitude ever again...
[05:08] <bruenig> CosmoDad, well the plugin should be in /usr/lib/firefox/
[05:08] <nrdb> ichabod: have you seen if there is a cannel for it here.  try '/join #<name>' etc.
[05:08] <kitche> adam: it works with banshee I've tested it out
[05:09] <bruenig> CosmoDad, well the plugin should be in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins*
[05:09] <kitche> tarmath: aptitude follows dependencies
[05:09] <CosmoDad> bruenig: seems to be missing...
[05:09] <ichabod> nrdb: Okay, I'll do that. Thanks for helping!
[05:09] <CosmoDad> bruenig: there's only one .so unrelated to acrobat
[05:09] <nrdb> ichabod: ok no problem
[05:09] <tarmath> kitche: apt-get doesnt?
[05:09] <CosmoDad> bruenig: any idea what I need to link?
[05:09] <nenochka> tarmath, that's because aptitude automatically installs needed dependencies
[05:09] <bruenig> CosmoDad, perhaps it is in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[05:10] <boris55> can I install ubuntu using xfs or jfs?
[05:10] <kitche> tarmath: apt-get will just install the program but might not run correctly
[05:10] <adam> well i get this error when I try to start gnomad2: gnomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libmtp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:10] <CosmoDad> bruenig: yup, there it is: nppdf.so
[05:10] <Netslayer> should have stuck with gentoo
[05:10] <adam> but hopefully it won't matter cause hopefuly banshee will work
[05:10] <tarmath> wow no kidding?
[05:10] <bruenig> hooray
[05:10] <bruenig> hopefully it works
[05:11] <ArrenLex> kitche: that's FUD. apt-get works just as well as aptitude.
[05:11] <bur[n] er> apt-get installs dependencies
[05:11] <CosmoDad> bruenig: any further linking necessary?
[05:11] <proudfoot> !edgy
[05:11] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:11] <bruenig> ArrenLex, his claim is wrong, but apt-get is not the same as aptitude
[05:11] <bruenig> CosmoDad, launch it and see if it works
[05:12] <CosmoDad> bruenig: I've re-launched FF already, doesn't work
[05:12] <tarmath> so whats the truth anyway? aptitude installs more packages for sure, why?
[05:12] <epod> I have an odd issue.  I apparently (According to the sound properties) have two sound devices, one is aHDA Nvidia (Alsa Mixer) and the other is SigmaTEL STAC9200 (OSS Mixer).  Both are unmuted, appear to be detected fine, and respond to my keyboard volume keys if I watch the volume bar.  Yet no sound is emitted, and in fact I only have one sound device ( a Sigmatel High Def audio Codec according to Windows)
[05:12] <ArrenLex> bruenig: no, apt-get is not the same as aptitude, but it works just as well. It's just not GUI. Different strokes...
[05:12] <bruenig> CosmoDad, hmmm, and pdfs work outside of ff?
[05:12] <kitche> ArrenLex: yes it does I m just saying if it doesn't pull down the needed dependencies then the app won't work like it's suppose to
[05:12] <CosmoDad> bruenig: yes
[05:12] <bruenig> ArrenLex, apt-get is not gui, apt-get doesn't track dependencies, aptitude does
[05:12] <ArrenLex> kitche: apt-get will get all the dependencies you need.
[05:13] <bruenig> CosmoDad, go into firefox and type about:plugins in the address bar
[05:13] <kitche> ArrenLex: is that why tarmath says it's not pulling all the software like aptitude does?
[05:13] <ArrenLex> bruenig:define "track dependencies"
[05:13] <feross> epod: tried alsamixer and nothing mutted?
[05:13] <tarmath> im saying aptitude is pulling stuff I dont want/need
[05:13] <epod> feross, yep.. nothing muted.
[05:13] <bruenig> ArrenLex, as in when you do aptitude remove, it removes all the dependencies it installed with it so that they don't float around on your disk uselessly
[05:14] <tarmath> but apt-get definitively pulls out dependencies...
[05:14] <adam> how do i get banshee to recognize my mp3 player (Creative Zen vision: M)?
[05:14] <ryanmc> i cant seem to mount a hard drive while running from a live cd any hints....
[05:14] <bur[n] er> adam: it just does?  /me shrugs
[05:14] <CosmoDad> bruenig: there's an Adobe 7.0 entry
[05:14] <jester45> could someone please help me with setting up my HP deskjet 712c printer
[05:14] <HTGN-css|Silent_> Hey guys. I reinstalled Windows and it killed grub. I tried reinstalling grub by chrooting to my linux partition from live, but I can't grub-install because /dev/sda dissappears after I chroot. What must I do?
[05:14] <bur[n] er> kitche: how'd you get your zen to work with banshee?
[05:14] <bruenig> CosmoDad, well it sees it, don't know what else there is to do
[05:14] <ArrenLex> bruenig: ah, yes, that's correct. However, what kitche was saying is that if you try to install a new program with apt-get, it won't fetch all the dependencies it needs and the program won't be runnable, which is BS and FUD.
[05:15] <Netslayer> is there a channel for non newbs?
[05:15] <kitche> bur[n] er don't own a zen lol but I tested it you just plug it in :P
[05:15] <bruenig> ArrenLex, yeah, that is why I said, he was wrong but that to say they are the same is wrong, even if they are essentially the same for his purpose
[05:15] <bur[n] er> Netslayer: if you know of one, let me know ;)
[05:15] <nrdb> anyone here had experience with the Linux Media Labs cards?
[05:15] <CorpseFeeder> is there a channel for getting quake2 to work?
[05:15] <adam> ok i opened banshee and plugged in my Zen and nothing happened.
[05:15] <bur[n] er> lol
[05:15] <ArrenLex> bruenig: I never said they were the same! I said, and I quote: kitche: that's FUD. apt-get works just as well as aptitude.
[05:16] <bur[n] er> adam: sorry man, not sure, you could check the banshee website
[05:16] <ArrenLex> burenig: Maybe I interpreted wrong, but to me, "just as well" != "in exactly the same manner as".
[05:16] <rylasasin> I need both compiz and xgl right?
[05:16] <CosmoDad> bruenig: ok thanks
[05:16] <bruenig> right, I suppose interpretation comes into play here which ultimately you have the last word on because you said it. It seemd as if you were saying the same
[05:16] <Netslayer> how about an edgy channel?
[05:16] <bur[n] er> rylasasin: beryl > compiz
[05:16] <epod> Netslayer, #ubuntu+1
[05:16] <kitche> ArrenLex: wow guess you didn't read what I wrote I said it doesn't pull the dependencies when you uninstall
[05:16] <adam> remember it's a Zen Vision: M not a Nomad or other creative player. there seems to be more problems with the Vision:  M
[05:16] <bruenig> Netslayer, #ubuntu+1
[05:16] <ArrenLex> bruenig: I assure you I'm perfectly aware they're different programs.
[05:16] <bur[n] er> adam: i've only used a zen sleek :\
[05:17] <HTGN-css|Silent_> anyone?
[05:17] <ArrenLex> (21:09:43) kitche: tarmath: aptitude follows dependencies && (21:10:36) kitche: tarmath: apt-get will just install the program but might not run correctly
[05:17] <bur[n] er> adam: try the banshee site though, i swear i read something, might be in latest version
[05:17] <ArrenLex> Kitche: seems to me like you were saying apt-get doesn't work. :P
[05:17] <ArrenLex> Maybe that's just, you know, ME...
[05:17] <bruenig> ArrenLex, I figured you did know they were different, just that you may be dumbing stuff down for a noob, which is never good
[05:18] <feross> HTGN-css|Silent_: what?
[05:18] <HTGN-css|Silent_> Hey guys. I reinstalled Windows and it killed grub. I tried reinstalling grub by chrooting to my linux partition from live, but I can't grub-install because /dev/sda dissappears after I chroot. What must I do?
[05:18] <ArrenLex> bruenig: no, no, I never attempted to convey the impression that they were THE SAME, merely that if you apt-get install foobar, you will get foobar; and that if you aptitude install foobar, you will get foobar.
[05:18] <tarmath> bruenig: so the fact that aptitude makes me install more packages than apt-get means what exactly? im figuring there's either 2 possibilities: 1) apt-get doesnt grab all dependencies and programs might break when installed with it. 2) aptitude makes me install more packages than necessary...
[05:19] <feross> HTGN-css|Silent_: that doesn't make sense. /dev/sda dissappears? tried it without chroot?
[05:19] <bruenig> tarmath, aptitude doesn't make you install more. At least in the comparisons I have done, they are always the same. I don't usually compare though, it may be that aptitude is actually installing all suggested packages along with the necessary packages whereas apt-get only installs necessary. That is just a guess though.
[05:20] <HTGN-css|Silent_> it says it cant access /proc/something
[05:20] <rylasasin> how do I get beryl?
[05:20] <harisund> Hello! I have eth0 and eth1, and both are DHCP clients. Now when I do apt-get update, how do I know which of the two is being used? How do I force internet access through eth0 or eth1?
[05:20] <rylasasin> its not in the packages menu
[05:20] <CosmoDad> bruenig: well I fixed it... there's a forum entry that deals with the issue
[05:20] <kitche> HTGN-css|Silent_: you have to mount /proc also
[05:20] <bruenig> CosmoDad, what was the answer?
[05:20] <HTGN-css|Silent_> in fdisk -l there are no sda partitions
[05:20] <CosmoDad> bruenig: you have to overwrite the nppdf.so which is located in /usr/lib/Adobe/... with one from an official tarball
[05:20] <tarmath> bruenig, ArrenLex, kitche: thanks for your help...
[05:21] <jester45> i have a problem with my printer when i try to print it says that is cant get Deskjet 712c setup in CUPS can anyone please help
[05:21] <feross> brb
[05:21] <HTGN-css|Silent_> brb, trying again
[05:21] <kitche> harisund: disable the one you don't want to use by ifdown eth1 or eth0 or setup iptables correctly
[05:23] <adam> what does banshee usually do when it recognizes a mp3 player?
[05:23] <kitche> harisund: such as force the internet though one of the eth devices
[05:23] <ellioTb> man, that KDE is still installin on here
[05:23] <lnostdal> i recently upgraded to edgy-beta - and i miss having 4 desktops as opposed to only having 2 like now -- any way to configure this?
[05:23] <halex> !edgy
[05:23] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:23] <lnostdal> ok
[05:23] <bur[n] er> inimesekene: definately... and i'll tell you in #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <harisund> kitche, hmm... no iptables involved... (or should there be?).. see, eth0 has 192.168.10.2 (gw 192.168.10.1) and eth1 has 192.168.20.2 (gw 192.168.20.1) and I login from both subnets.. so I can't block anything through iptables
[05:23] <Soekisan> !schedule
[05:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:24] <Soekisan> october?
[05:24] <Madpilot> lnostdal, right-click on the desktop switcher, choose Preferences, pick how many desktops you want to have (I have eight, myself...)
[05:24] <ellioTb> !schedule
[05:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:24] <jmerlin> anyone here ever install XPde?
[05:24] <ArrenLex> !schedule
[05:24] <Flannel> Soekisan: right, october.  6.10 (2006, 10th month)
[05:24] <kitche> harisund: well then you won't be able to tell which one is used anyways but probably by defaul eth0 is your internet
[05:25] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: I did, once. It was terrible. Don't use it. If you want XP, use XP.
[05:25] <pooru> feross: hey thanks a lot, it worked
[05:25] <jmerlin> ArrenLex, it's not for me
[05:25] <jmerlin> but anyway
[05:25] <jmerlin> after running through the setup
[05:25] <kitche> harisund: you can check in the networking part what's your main network card
[05:25] <SuperMiguel> does any one know any linux that i can boot from an usb drive
[05:25] <jmerlin> it tells me that i need to add the lines in xinitircDEFAULT to my system
[05:25] <adam> BANSHEE: what does it usually do when it recognises a mp3 player?
[05:25] <jmerlin> where do i add those to use it?
[05:25] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: whoever it's for; if you want a desktop that's easy for a windows user to use but still powerful and complete, use KDE.
[05:26] <jester45> SuperMiguel: damnsmalllinux will
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> i wont boot :(
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> it*
[05:26] <jmerlin> i'm trying out options
[05:26] <kitche> adam: it should say if the mp3 player is mounted in Options
[05:26] <jmerlin> how do i get it to run?
[05:26] <harisund> kitche: sorry no GUI .. I am thinking it has something to do with the default gw in the output of the route command?
[05:26] <jwhitlark> has anyone ever attended a ubuntu developer summit?  Next one is near me and I want to know if it's worth going.
[05:26] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: xinitrc is in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc for the whole system and in ~/.xinitrc for you.
[05:26] <dailama> nickv111, i have another question
[05:27] <kitche> harisund: yes whatever is default is what your network runs though
[05:27] <dailama> do you mind?
[05:27] <ellioTb> holy hell this laptop is hot in my lap
[05:27] <dailama> how do you open an executable file in linux ?
[05:27] <Madpilot> jwhitlark, they're not really public confrences in the exhibits & speakers type sense (although they're public in the anyone-can-show-up sense)
[05:27] <ArrenLex> dailama: if you have permissions to execute it, just ./<file> from the command line or double-click on it from Nautilus.
[05:28] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, you might not be dork enough in real life to get in, lol
[05:28] <ellioTb> j/k
[05:28] <kitche> dailama: also with .exe you need wine to run it
[05:28] <viator> i guess yours is a notebook not a lpatop
[05:28] <viator> lol
[05:28] <dailama> ArrenLex, I would like to open the file to see how it was written
[05:28] <ellioTb> err dorky
[05:28] <jwhitlark> I don't know about that, I'm a sysadmin ;P
[05:28] <jmerlin> ArrenLex, read your PM
[05:28] <ellioTb> viator, whatever you call it, hot as hell
[05:28] <adam> bur[n] er: here's what you read: Banshee developers are also working on two other types:    * Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) a.k.a. PlaysForSure(tm) devices
[05:28] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, you pass!
[05:28] <ArrenLex> I totally read "viator" as "vibrator" o_o
[05:28] <dailama> ArrenLex, For instance...I would like to open the program tilda or grep or similar
[05:28] <viator> hah
[05:29] <jwhitlark> ellioTb: tnks!
[05:29] <ladydoor> dailama: you just type grep
[05:29] <viator> latin
[05:29] <ArrenLex> dailama: open what file?
[05:29] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, thats actually the secret password to get in
[05:29] <dailama> not the program, the file
[05:29] <ladydoor> dailama: you don't "open" grep.
[05:29] <kitche> dailama: you need the source code to do that
[05:29] <dailama> i want to see what its doing
[05:29] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: I have no PM.
[05:29] <dailama> isn't this linux
[05:29] <dailama> open source?
[05:29] <adam> bur[n] er?
[05:29] <ArrenLex> dailama: the source code?
[05:29] <dailama> ArrenLex: yes
[05:29] <ArrenLex> dailama: yes, but the source code is separate -- you can't EXECUTE source. :P
[05:29] <cl187> i gots a question
[05:30] <jwhitlark> ellioTb, I can't just show up w/ a pocket protector?
[05:30] <jmerlin> so i rename that DEFAULT file to .xinitre ?
[05:30] <cl187> my wireless sees networks
[05:30] <jmerlin> in my home
[05:30] <cl187> i put in my key
[05:30] <jmerlin> and reboot
[05:30] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, yes, or a shirt with a commodore on it
[05:30] <cl187> but network fails
[05:30] <tarmath> bruenig, ArrenLex, kitche: as an epilogue sort-of note, i just want to let you guys know I found out aptitude also installs "recommended" packages, and not only dependencies...
[05:30] <ellioTb> i can't even spell that
[05:30] <ArrenLex> dailama: google for the grep sources is the best idea. Else you'd have to go through ubuntu source packages.
[05:30] <jmerlin> and after i try that, how do i run KDE?
[05:30] <viator> you can look at and  change the source
[05:30] <ladydoor> dailama: just because it's free software doesn't mean you have the magical ability to read binary. you need to look at the source code used to create the binary.
[05:30] <jwhitlark> or an amiga...
[05:30] <ArrenLex> tarmath: yes, I suspected. I myself never use it.
[05:30] <viator> and then compile and execute
[05:30] <dailama> ladydoor: I can understand that now...
[05:30] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: do you mean, how do you INSTALL kde?
[05:30] <dailama> ladydoor: I do believe I have been pointed in the right direction
[05:30] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, lol, or any sort of star wars paraphernalia
[05:31] <jmerlin> ArrenLex, how do i get it to run?
[05:31] <ellioTb> jmerlin, mine is installing it right now
[05:31] <ellioTb> jmerlin, what are you in right now?
[05:31] <jmerlin> gnome
[05:31] <bur[n] er> adam: got me senor :\
[05:31] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: do you have it installed? If so, just run "exec startkde" from the terminal.
[05:31] <ellioTb> jmerlin, press control + alt + backspace
[05:31] <ellioTb> that will take you to login
[05:31] <jwhitlark> TREK! TREK!
[05:31] <ellioTb> then click on options
[05:32] <cl187> !wireless
[05:32] <ellioTb> then go to "sessions"
[05:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: if you've got a display manager, log out and log in as KDE.
[05:32] <ellioTb> and change it to "KDE"
[05:32] <asdfasdf> alright, so I chrooted to my mounted linux partition and mounted proc and tried to grub-install sda and I get /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device
[05:32] <jwhitlark> I'm actually downloading battlestar gal. at the moment, tho.
[05:32] <jmerlin> k i'll try
[05:32] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, the secret handshake to get in is the spock thing
[05:32] <asdfasdf> fdisk -l returns absolutely nothing
[05:32] <jwhitlark> lol
[05:32] <ArrenLex> asdfasdf: sudo fdisk -l
[05:33] <asdfasdf> I am root
[05:33] <adam> dang i wonder how long it will take them? how long has MTP devices been around? it sure does take a while to implement stupid protocols microsoft makes up for no reason when UMS works just as well or better.
[05:33] <asdfasdf> sudo su
[05:33] <pooru> asdfasdf: use" sudo fdisk -l
[05:33] <ellioTb> you are on irc as root? isn't that dangerous
[05:33] <ellioTb> or is that old school
[05:33] <ArrenLex> asdf: you can't combine sudo and su.
[05:33] <asdfasdf> I could care less ellio, I just want this to work
[05:33] <ArrenLex> asdf: it's impossible to sudo su.
[05:33] <ellioTb> last time i was in linux before this ubuntu install was back in the day
[05:33] <ellioTb> asdfasdf, i know, no hackers here cept jwhitlark
[05:33] <jwhitlark> ArrenLex, no it's not, I do it all the time.
[05:34] <ArrenLex> adsf: no, wait, it may not be impossible. But don't.
[05:34] <kyja> uh oh/.!! I need help.
[05:34] <ArrenLex> Okay, well, there you go.
[05:34] <ArrenLex> !ask
[05:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:34] <sivik> i need help getting connected with minicom
[05:34] <asdfasdf> anyway, fdisk -l returns nothing as root
[05:34] <asdfasdf> how do I "scan" for my partitions?
[05:34] <ellioTb> only 866 people in here, weak
[05:34] <ArrenLex> asdf: what happens if you go back to normal user and run sudo fdisk -l?
[05:34] <ellioTb> asdfasdf, what about the partition manager, thats a real easy way to see
[05:35] <holycow> fdisk -l
[05:35] <asdfasdf> good idea
[05:35] <ArrenLex> asdf: if that doesn't work, try /proc/partitions
[05:35] <ArrenLex> i.e. "cat /proc/partitions:
[05:35] <ArrenLex> i.e. "cat /proc/partitions"
[05:35] <kyja> durring install after updating to edgy it could not move a folder in x11 so it stopped all installs prematurily. now I dont know how to continue the upgrade. I manualy moved the folder it needed moved.
[05:35] <jwhitlark> use df (disk free) to see your mounted partitions.
[05:35] <ellioTb> kyja, i think they want you to ask that in #ubuntu+1
[05:35] <kyja> ah
[05:35] <ArrenLex> kyja: apt-get -f install
[05:35] <ellioTb> i dunno, but you might get better results in there
[05:36] <kitche> to see mounted partitions it's mount
[05:36] <kyja> thx I try
[05:36] <ArrenLex> ellioTb: I don't think so. Her question is a generic one about interrupted upgrades.
[05:36] <valehru> Hey guys, I'm getting the following error with my phpmyadmin installation: extension=mysql.so
[05:36] <valehru> Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration.
[05:36] <SuperMiguel> how can i write and read to my usb drive
[05:36] <ellioTb> oh ok, perfecto, is there a lot of good new stuff in edgy?
[05:37] <Languid> does anyone know how to stop firefox from crashing when
[05:37] <Languid> whoops sorry
[05:37] <adam> OMG!!!! something happened!! my mp3 player says it's connected to the comp!! there's hope yet!!
[05:37] <jwhitlark> asdf, did those things help (mount/df)
[05:37] <sivik> adam: what kind of mp3 player?
[05:37] <ellioTb> i have a dell jukebox i wanna get connected sometime when i am not so lazy
[05:38] <feross> SuperMiguel: usually it pops up on your desktop and you can doubleclick to open/read/write
[05:38] <asdfasdf> hmm... I can get the partitions to show up in fdisk, but when I chroot to my linux partition I get a root commandline
[05:38] <sg2> knixtech - sorry i asked earlier but then got distracted.  To install codecs for ubuntu you recommended easy ubuntu but easy ubuntu doesn't work for me
[05:38] <adam> Creative Zen Vision: M
[05:38] <sg2> neither is automatix working for me
[05:38] <ellioTb> oh my god! KDE is done, be back later
[05:38] <sg2> any other ideas?
[05:38] <sivik> adam: are you using gnomad>=2.8.5?
[05:38] <sivik> i need some help getting minicom to get into my router
[05:39] <sivik> !router
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <sivik> !cisco
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cisco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <ArrenLex> sg2: I can help you, hold on...
[05:40] <jmerlin> it says all i have installed is GNOME
[05:40] <asdfasdf> I'm getting bash: /proc/partitions: Permission denied as root... ??
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> the only linux that can stand on windows is dsl?
[05:40] <jmerlin> where do i get the other one?
[05:40] <asdfasdf> DSL embedded runs slow
[05:40] <Plecebo> I'm having trouble connecting my laptop's wireless card to my wap network. I only see wep connection settings... can anyone help me out.
[05:40] <kitche> asdfasdf: you chrooted into your systen?
[05:40] <feross> SuperMiguel: cygwin works well
[05:40] <asdfasdf> yep
[05:40] <adam> i'm not sure, how do i check? but when I try opening gnomad2 by typing gnomad2 in the terminal, i get this error: gnomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libmtp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> cygwin is hard :S
[05:41] <SuperMiguel> i dont understand it
[05:41] <kitche> asdfasdf: you have to mount /proc also to <mountpoint>/proc
[05:41] <sivik> adam: did you install gnomad2 from apt-get?
[05:41] <asdfasdf> I typed mount /proc and it accepted the command
[05:41] <asdfasdf> where should I put it?
[05:41] <feross> Plecebo: fdalmoro.blogspot.com look at the mini wpa howto
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> !wpa
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:41] <jwhitlark> cygwin is great, but it's a little different, and that causes a number of probs.  I'd rather just use linux.
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> Plecebo: ^^
[05:41] <Plecebo> feross,  thanks i'll check that out
[05:41] <SuperMiguel> any other embedded linux?
[05:42] <kitche> asdfasdf: you have to mount proc to your system that you are chrooting into
[05:42] <adam> idk i've been trying tons of different stuff people have been telling me, but I think yes the last time i tried to install gnomad2 it was from apt-get
[05:42] <jwhitlark> !serial
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <feross> SuperMiguel: well, you could always run ubuntu on a spare pc and ssh into it :) or vnc to it.
[05:43] <kitche> !proc > asdfasdf
[05:43] <SuperMiguel> umm
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <jmerlin> what are some other windows-like desktop enviroments
[05:43] <SuperMiguel> i dont want to have my computer always on
[05:43] <jmerlin> and how do i install KDE?
[05:43] <kitche> hmmmmm oh well I don't feel like searching the gentoo docs right now for the right mount command
[05:43] <viator> does networkmanager work "out of the box" with edgy
[05:43] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: apt-get install kde-core kdebase :P
[05:43] <ArrenLex> except that :P
[05:43] <halex> viator: no, it doesn't..
[05:43] <asdfasdf> jmerlin, use synaptic package manager
[05:43] <viator> or is it not even installed by default as in dapper
[05:43] <ArrenLex> sg2: download the package http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[05:44] <ArrenLex> sg2: install it using dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[05:44] <jmerlin> well.. are there any skins for it to make it look like win XP?
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> jmerlin
[05:44] <jmerlin> what?
[05:44] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: yes. Why do you want them?
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> you can use candy eye
[05:44] <sg2> arrenlex: should i use the wget command or can i just download it
[05:44] <feross> !easyubuntu > sg2
[05:44] <jmerlin> because it's for an organization i work for
[05:44] <viator> xp skins :|
[05:44] <jmerlin> they ask i give, that's what i'm paid for.
[05:45] <viator> lol
[05:45] <jmerlin> i don't ask questions
[05:45] <ArrenLex> sg2: whatever is more comfortable for you, as long as it ends up on your hard drive.
[05:45] <Plecebo> feross,  from the guide "Point it to lo and then remove it from the panel." do they mean the network manager or the gnome-network stuff?
[05:45] <jmerlin> they want the desktop to be censored midget porn, i'll put it on there
[05:45] <feross> Plecebo: the gnome-network stuff
[05:45] <Plecebo> feross, thanks
[05:45] <SuperMiguel> tell merlin about !gdesjets
[05:45] <sg2> awesome, thanks alot!
[05:45] <Madpilot> jmerlin, check gnome-look.org
[05:45] <SuperMiguel> !gdeskjets
[05:45] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: www.kde-look.org might have some suggestions
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdeskjets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <jmerlin> is KDE better than gnome?
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> faster
[05:46] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: YES! :P
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> not better
[05:46] <viator> jmerlin matter of opinion
[05:46] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: no.
[05:46] <jmerlin> can i remove gnome from ubuntu? :o
[05:46] <jmerlin> lol
[05:46] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: different strokes from different folks.
[05:46] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: yes! :O
[05:46] <SeanTater> I want to compile a program (workFlow, not in repos), but it needx X includes, how might I install them?
[05:46] <feross> Plecebo: I wrote that BTW.. I'll make that clear when I update
[05:46] <ArrenLex> I have.
[05:46] <Madpilot> jmerlin, you could, but why would you? ;)
[05:46] <jmerlin> i thought you couldn't..
[05:46] <asdfasdf> kitche, whenever I sudo chroot it makes me root. If I exit out of root to user, the root is defaulted
[05:46] <ArrenLex> Sean: apt-get install xlibs-dev
[05:46] <jmerlin> because i might like KDE better
[05:46] <SeanTater> ArrenLex: thanks!
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> :)
[05:46] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: because KDE owns you.
[05:46] <jmerlin> and not want to keep gnome on there for harddrive purposes
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> i have a quiack and hard question
[05:46] <ArrenLex> Quick and hard? =O
[05:47] <SuperMiguel> how do i burn an iso file to an usb drive?
[05:47] <viator> install kde and remove gnome
[05:47] <asdfasdf> synaptic does all the work for you
[05:47] <kitche> asdfasdf: well you have to mount /proc that's your problem it doesn't get automounted for the system that your chrooting into
[05:47] <ArrenLex> Super: you don't "burn" anything to a USB drive. Not without actual fire. You can extract the files on the ISO to the drive. Do you want that?
[05:47] <SuperMiguel> kind of
[05:47] <jwhitlark> you can write an iso to a usb drive.
[05:47] <highneko> Hello. Is there a way to turn off tooltips?
[05:47] <ellioTb> alright, in that kde now, kind of feelin it
[05:47] <SuperMiguel> never
[05:48] <SuperMiguel> mind
[05:48] <asdfasdf> kitche, which proc am I mounting, the one on my chrooted partition or on the live cd?
[05:48] <feross> SuperMiguel probably want to make it bootable
[05:48] <SuperMiguel> it was easier that i trought
[05:48] <ArrenLex> elliot: isn't it magic? :D Play with the settings, I find defaults annoying.
[05:48] <SuperMiguel> feross
[05:48] <SuperMiguel> how do i make it bootable
[05:48] <jwhitlark> that's a pain in the ****
[05:48] <jwhitlark> making usb bootable.
[05:48] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, which settings first? i think i need another style too
[05:48] <ellioTb> err theme
[05:48] <jwhitlark> at least it was the last time I did it ~6mo.
[05:48] <ninwa> ArrenLex: If you were curious, I think I got it installed. OpenGL support seems to be there, but it's slower than what I was getting with Dapper's drivers, is that normal?
[05:48] <feross> SuperMiguel: rumor has it that DSL has a whole HOWTO on it :P
[05:49] <ellioTb> does openoffice take 10 years to open for anyone else?
[05:49] <ellioTb> its like my WM benchmark
[05:49] <SuperMiguel> they sell it
[05:49] <jwhitlark> no, only about 8 years.
[05:49] <sivik> ellioTb, not me
[05:49] <jmerlin> ellioTb, no
[05:49] <jmerlin> about 2 seconds for me
[05:49] <viator> kde is more easily configured to your liking
[05:49] <SuperMiguel> but dont explain
[05:49] <ArrenLex> ninwa: no, it's not normal. What's the output of  glxinfo | grep renderer
[05:49] <asdfasdf> I have a 128 mb usb I made bootable, but its a live cd boot and thats not good enough for me. I was planning on getting a debian install on my 512 stick tonight, but I'll probably have to do it tomorrow
[05:49] <sivik> minicom, i need some help getting it to connect, i have already done a setup and nothing ever happens
[05:49] <ellioTb> wierd, i dunno whats wrong, this isn't that slow of a notebook, and everything takes forever
[05:49] <highneko> I'm using Ubuntu gnome, and there tooltips are really ****ing anoying! Can someone please help. I tryed google, and read alot.
[05:49] <ArrenLex> elliot: hell yes. It's like photoshop.
[05:49] <ninwa> ArrenLex: OpenGL rendere string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic
[05:50] <viator> good luck getting debian on 512 mb
[05:50] <jwhitlark> sivik, minicom was no easy to use, when I tried.
[05:50] <asdfasdf> its been done on 256
[05:50] <SuperMiguel> asdfasdf: if you use a flash drive as a hard drive will that not blow your flash drive?
[05:50] <feross> SuperMiguel: really? I think if you burn DSL to a cd, boot, then in the DSL panel there's an 'Install to USB' thing... hmm you should try the DSL room
[05:50] <jwhitlark> not
[05:50] <Flannel> viator: er, what?  I'm running debian on 40mb.
[05:50] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, whats like photoshop
[05:50] <ArrenLex> ninwa: ....weird.
[05:50] <ninwa> I'll be honest, I don't know really anything about this, but I remember something about DRI being important once-apon-atime setting these drivers up, and when I grep DRI nothing shows up.
[05:50] <asdfasdf> Miguel, I guess I'll find out :) I'm not swapping on it anyway
[05:50] <ArrenLex> elliotTB: openoffice opening:photoshop opening:glacier melting
[05:50] <viator> yeah and dsl fits in 50 mb'
[05:51] <asdfasdf> I run dsl on the 128
[05:51] <viator> but isnt as useful to me
[05:51] <ellioTb> lol, seems like most apps take a while to load, then work fine
[05:51] <asdfasdf> viator, try slax
[05:51] <jwhitlark> My big problem with minicom was getting the hardware to work right.
[05:51] <ellioTb> prolly cause i only have 256megs of ram on here
[05:51] <ArrenLex> ninwa: DRI is in your xorg.conf. If you're rendering with RADEON 9800, you have DRI on.
[05:51] <sivik> jwhitlark, did you ever fix it
[05:51] <SuperMiguel> feross i tryed that but it didnt boot:(
[05:51] <jwhitlark> no.
[05:51] <jwhitlark> sorry.
[05:51] <ArrenLex> elliot: yeah, that would be why.
[05:51] <Flannel> highneko: gconftool-2 --set /apps/panel/global/tooltips_enabled --type=boolean false
[05:51] <Nightboat> this is plecebo, I'm still not able to connect, my wireless device is not even showing in network manager
[05:51] <ArrenLex> elliot: had 256 ram on my old machine. It took firefox ten seconds to open. I was like *weeps* every time.
[05:52] <highneko> Flannel: Ok, thank you.
[05:52] <Flannel> highneko: you can do the same thing with gconfeditor, just having to browse to that entry
[05:52] <ellioTb> arren, but the comp was free, so i can't complain too much, its a p4m 2.2ghz
[05:52] <feross> SuperMiguel: hm, there is also an "Install" boot option. Press F2 or F3, should be there.
[05:52] <jwhitlark> sivik, make sure your bios is set right, first.  otherwise you'll be wasting time.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> Anything free is passable! :D
[05:52] <sivik> jwhitlark, what does the bios need to say?
[05:52] <highneko> Flannel: I'm pretty new to gnome. Never heard of gconfeditor before!
[05:53] <viator> gconfeditor is like windows
[05:53] <jwhitlark> depends on your bios, but it can block the serial console.  I'm looking for the howto I used... just a sec.
[05:53] <viator> registry
[05:53] <Flannel> highneko: I don't believe it's installed by default on Dapper, configuration editor, I think.  you might need to apt-get it
[05:53] <viator> regedit
[05:53] <sivik> jwhitlark, ok, wouldn't the bios cause it not to work in windows?
[05:53] <viator> haha
[05:53] <highneko> I just tryed apt-get
[05:53] <asdfasdf> kitche, I am root on the chroot, proc says its mounted and I'm getting /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device. on grub-install
[05:53] <highneko> "Couldn't find package gconfeditor"
[05:54] <jwhitlark> yes.  I didn't know you'd run it already under windows.
[05:54] <highneko> I have universe and multi.
[05:54] <Flannel> highneko: let me get you the real name of hte package
[05:54] <poningru> highneko: its gconf-editor
[05:54] <sivik> jwhitlark, i checked to make sure
[05:54] <highneko> Ah, that's it. Thanks again! :)
[05:54] <jwhitlark> sivik, try http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/
[05:55] <jwhitlark> my problem was a hdware one, but that seemed like a very good howto.
[05:55] <squee> anyone running beryl + amd64?
[05:55] <ArrenLex> asdf: what if you run "grub-install (hd0,0)
[05:55] <ellioTb> now i feel turned around in KDE, just got comfortable in gnome
[05:56] <TheFakeJon> i am trying to install bochs and it keeps complaining about me not having the X GUI Library files
[05:56] <ArrenLex> ellioTb: don't worry, it's really quite magical. I run KDE; if you need help I'd love to help you!
[05:56] <asdfasdf> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0,0'
[05:56] <TheFakeJon> how would I go about getting htat
[05:56] <ellioTb> holy hell KDE came with a lot of programs
[05:56] <jwhitlark> ellioTb, why did you feel the need to switch?
[05:56] <viator> make kde look and function like gnome then
[05:56] <ArrenLex> asdf: grub-install (hd0)?
[05:56] <viator> lol
[05:56] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, i just want to check em all out
[05:56] <asdfasdf> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0'
[05:56] <ellioTb> so i can see which one i want to stick with
[05:57] <jwhitlark> ellioTb, that's what live CD's are for.
[05:57] <ArrenLex> grub-install hd0 ? xD
[05:57] <sg2> arrenlex: hey i installed the codecs... but i can only get .avi's to play in vlc which i think already could(?). anyways, is there something else i need to do?
[05:57] <Flannel> jwhitlark: nothing wrong with having both/all three installed
[05:57] <dec2bin> hello, does anyone know which library do i need to install to get module.h?
[05:57] <Flannel> dec2bin: do you have build-essential yet?
[05:57] <asdfasdf>  /dev/sda3: Not found or not a block device.
[05:57] <ArrenLex> sg2: what happens when you try to play, for example, a .wmv file?
[05:57] <adam> ok here's what's going on now: to get my mp3 player to say it's "Docked" I have to open terminal and type mtp-detect. but even then, none of my installed jueboxes/media players recognize my mp3 player and allow me to transfer/set up sync options with it.
[05:57] <jwhitlark> nah, but it takes time away from the shell.
[05:57] <dec2bin> er.. that's a pointer, i'll check Flannel
[05:57] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, yeah, already had gnome installed, figured i would check out xfce, fluxbox, kde, etc
[05:57] <ellioTb> then just remove the ones i don't want
[05:57] <dec2bin> :)
[05:58] <TheFakeJon> how can I use synaptic to get the X window Library?
[05:58] <adam> even Gnomad2 doesn't realize it's  there
[05:58] <jwhitlark> ellioTb, icewm works well for me when I need something lightweight.
[05:58] <ellioTb> faster download to install KDE than download the kubuntu live cd
[05:58] <sivik> how do i see if my serial port is working correctly?
[05:58] <ellioTb> jwhitlark, i am gonna have to check it out, fluxbox was a lil to minimal for me if you know what i mean
[05:58] <viator> mplayers ugly but ut works with 99% of the files i try
[05:58] <ellioTb> since i need more ram, fluxbox was fast
[05:58] <sivik> !serial
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <ellioTb> arren, well i am an idiot, cause now i have a million things
[05:59] <asdfasdf> arren, any ideas?
[05:59] <jwhitlark> sivik, you're trying to connect to a cisco router, right?
[05:59] <jwhitlark> or to another machine?
[05:59] <asdfasdf> when I sudo chroot it auto-roots me and I cant see the partitions. when I exit I can see the partitions but I cant chroot
[05:59] <ArrenLex> vialtor: mplayer is not ugly! It is skinnable!
[05:59] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, how big is kde-core
[06:00] <sivik> jwhitlark, yes, 2500
[06:00] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, cause now i am lost cause i have 1,000 apps on here
[06:00] <viator> its default is
[06:00] <sivik> well, 2514
[06:00] <viator> thats just my opinion
[06:00] <ArrenLex> elliot: not big. It's just the files you need to run KDE itself. Not all the apps that come with it.
[06:00] <ellioTb> oh man, i wish some1 would have told me that earlier
[06:00] <ellioTb> they said in here just to apt-get install kde
[06:00] <jwhitlark> sivik, if you've connected in windows, you should know the settings, right?
[06:00] <ellioTb> lol, 3 hours later i have every app ever made seems like
[06:01] <ArrenLex> elliot: "kde" is a metapackage that installs "kde and everything associated with it"
[06:01] <jwhitlark> speed, parity, etc.
[06:01] <kyja> well, I am screwed.
[06:01] <dec2bin> Flannel: I apt-got that and it compiled but i get these nice errors: .. redefinition of 'struct timespec'... etc..
[06:01] <ArrenLex> elliot: did you make a note of which packages it installed? Can you backtrack?
[06:01] <adam> ArrenLex: hey thanks for all the help. my mp3 player now says it's connected to the comp, but none of the linux music players realize it's there
[06:01] <adam> we made progress! hooray1
[06:01] <adam> !!
[06:01] <dec2bin> it's a simple hello world module
[06:01] <viator> yeah just purge remove kde
[06:02] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, it installed a million packages, and i didn't take note of all of them, DOH
[06:02] <sivik> jwhitlark, yes
[06:02] <ArrenLex> viator: that won't work. Again, kde is a metapackage. Nothing depends on it.
[06:02] <sivik> jwhitlark, i do it at school at least twice a week
[06:02] <TheFakeJon> what are the x windows libraries ? and where can I find them?
[06:02] <ArrenLex> elliot: what did you use to install them all? apt-get?
[06:02] <ellioTb> when i did apt-get kde, it got them all automatically
[06:03] <jwhitlark> sivik, just a sec, I'm downlaoding minicom to take a look.
[06:03] <ArrenLex> elliot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002 will that help?
[06:03] <asdfasdf> oh gawd... I'm gonna have to reinstall linux
[06:03] <sivik> jwhitlark, thanks
[06:03] <sg2> arrenlex: same error, i don't have the decoder isntalled
[06:03] <asdfasdf> all because of a bootloader
[06:04] <dec2bin> anyone know why i get this nice error: /module.h:41: error: field 'attr' has incomplete type
[06:04] <ArrenLex> sg2: does VLC have a place where you can configure where it looks for codecs? If so, point it to /usr/lib/win32
[06:04] <dec2bin> with a whole buncha error
[06:04] <dec2bin> *s
[06:04] <viator> do apt-cache show kde
[06:04] <viator> it shows all the dependencies
[06:04] <sg2> arrenlex: dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb was the last line when i installed it
[06:04] <viator> but not everything it instslls
[06:04] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, can i just do a remove kde
[06:04] <ArrenLex> viator: those dependencies have their own dependencies have their own dependenices.
[06:04] <ArrenLex> elliot: no, it won't work.
[06:04] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, cause there is way too much stuff on here now
[06:04] <ellioTb> oh nooooo
[06:05] <ArrenLex> elliot: how about that guide?
[06:05] <ellioTb> that just says how to install kde easy
[06:05] <sg2> arrenlex: sorry for being unclear, vlc does work but other video players don't, should i see if the other videoplayers have an option like that?
[06:05] <ellioTb> with an apt-install kubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <jwhitlark> sivik, Ctrl-A Z, then the settings are in o, should be it.
[06:05] <ArrenLex> elliot: read all of it!  Look at the section "to have pure..."
[06:05] <ellioTb> oh ok
[06:05] <sivik> jwhitlark, yes, thats where i'm trying to get it to work
[06:05] <crimsun> sg2: / ArrenLex: vlc in dapper and edgy is not compiled with loader or win32 support
[06:05] <ArrenLex> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[06:06] <ArrenLex> (@elliot)
[06:06] <ArrenLex> crimsun: ah, I didn't know that. I see.
[06:06] <adam> ArrenLex: yo thanks for the help. we made progress. my mp3 player now says it's connected to something intead of just charging like it's on AC power
[06:06] <asdfasdf> is there any way I can reinstall grub on /dev/sda without reinstalling linux that will work?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> sg2: personally I always recommend mplayer. It plays anything!
[06:06] <ArrenLex> adam: I didn't really help much xD
[06:06] <TheFakeJon> what are the x windows libraries ? and where can I find them?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> asdf: yes. But how is another matter.
[06:07] <ArrenLex> asdf: have you googled?
[06:07] <ArrenLex> TheFakeJon: are you compiling?
[06:07] <sg2> arrenlex: yeah i mean i can play all videos in vlc, just not universally
[06:07] <TheFakeJon> ArrenLex yes
[06:07] <asdfasdf> Arren, I have googled many times
[06:07] <ArrenLex> TheFakeKon: apt-get install xlibs-dev
[06:07] <ArrenLex> Kon -> Jon
[06:07] <TheFakeJon> ArrenLex in the configure script it is asking for x windows Libraries
[06:07] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, i don't think so, that removes KDE if you had kubuntu
[06:07] <jwhitlark> sivik, Ctrl-A p for params, the cycle it.  That's as far as I'v gotten.
[06:07] <jwhitlark> sorry,
[06:08] <ellioTb> so sad, i just want to remove all that crap that comes with the kde package
[06:08] <ArrenLex> ellioTb: kubuntu is just ubuntu plus kde packages minus gnome packages =P it will still work.
[06:08] <jwhitlark> Dinner's ready, see ya'll later...
[06:08] <sivik> jwhitlark, just did that
[06:08] <ellioTb> won't the package manager deselect all the stuff that installed when i did apt-get kde
[06:08] <ArrenLex> ellioTb: run the top command on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[06:08] <TheFakeJon> ArrenLex thanks
[06:08] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, that isn't enough stuff i don't think, plus it removes a bunch of stuff i want to keep, i guess i could just reinstall those packages
[06:09] <ArrenLex> Elliot: you need to read more.
[06:09] <ArrenLex> Elliot: from that site, top line:  If you didn't have as much foresight and chose instead to install KDE or XFCE through Synaptic or apt-get, this is how to remove those desktop environments from your Gnome.
[06:09] <asdfasdf> ArrenLex, I have done everything on google, but I can't get the system to see /dev/sda once I've chrooted to my linux partition
[06:09] <ArrenLex> elliot: which stuff you want to keep does it remove?
[06:09] <asdfasdf> as root it seems I cant see anything
[06:09] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, alright, its pasted, here goes nothing
[06:09] <asdfasdf> and without root I cant chroot
[06:10] <ArrenLex> asdf: Have you seen this guide? It seems like what you want. http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[06:10] <mister_roboto_> ellioTb: why are you worried about deleting it? are you short on disk?
[06:10] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, thanks a bunch
[06:10] <ArrenLex> asdf: replace "redhat boot disk" with "any Linux recovery disk:
[06:10] <ArrenLex> "
[06:10] <ellioTb> mister_roboto_, i just don't want the million apps i installed
[06:10] <mister_roboto_> ellioTb: again... why do you care?
[06:10] <ellioTb> when i installed kde, it was 531mb, to remove it with that paste, its 631
[06:11] <ellioTb> mister_roboto_, cause now i can't find anything cause of the million apps, i guess i could just clean up the menu
[06:11] <ArrenLex> ellioTb: I don't know what to tell you, mean. Take it or leave it. I suggest you apt-get install ubuntu-desktop afterward to make sure you have everything.
[06:11] <mister_roboto_> ellioTb: ahh, ok, the menu is cluttered :)
[06:11] <ellioTb> yeah
[06:11] <ArrenLex> misteroboto: some of us don't want a bunch of crap on our hard drives, however vast they may or may not be.
[06:12] <ellioTb> mister_roboto_, i just wanted to try out kde, but instead of installer kde-core, i installed the 500mb package
[06:12] <ellioTb> lol, i guess i need to get out of KDE to uninstall that stuff huh
[06:12] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: it's not exactly crap though. but i understand.
[06:12] <ellioTb> brb, save me that link arren
[06:13] <ArrenLex> mister: have you SEEN the applications that come bundled with KDE? It's total crap!
[06:13] <com4> i'm trying to setup rsync in a script using the RSYNC_PASSWORD environment variable. the rsync binary doesn't seem to be reading that variable at all.
[06:13] <ArrenLex> mister: I do NOT care about a povray frontend. I'm sorry, I just DON'T.
[06:13] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: i use kde, have for years
[06:13] <ArrenLex> mister: so do I, have for years.
[06:13] <sg2> arrenlex and everyone else: i think i got it, thanks alot for all the help though!
[06:13] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: what exactly is crap?
[06:13] <com4> export RSYNC_PASSWORD=mypassword; rsync -avz some stuff
[06:14] <sg2> exit
[06:14] <ArrenLex> mister: kpovmodeler, for example. kig. all\most of the games. There was, like, a japanese dictionary or something. I don't speak japanese! There are a thousand applications I don't need.
[06:14] <jmoncayo> how is the ubuntu offtopic channel please?
[06:15] <ellioTb> yeah, don't think that would have worked to uninstall kde while i was in it
[06:15] <ArrenLex> jmoncayo: it's at #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:15] <Healot> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:15] <ArrenLex> elliot: .....probably not! XD
[06:15] <ellioTb> heheh
[06:15] <bm0nk> ive just managed to get my network card working....  i put    islsm    in /etc/modprobe.conf - is that all i need to do now so i can use the internet when i reboot my computer without typing anything ? - i type modprobe islsm now it returns     WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line 1
[06:15] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: i'm running kubuntu and have none of that stuff
[06:15] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: not sure how you picked it up
[06:15] <bm0nk> ive just managed to get my network card working....  i put    islsm    in /etc/modprobe.conf - is that all i need to do now so i can use the internet when i reboot my computer without typing anything ? - i type modprobe islsm now it returns     WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'islsm'
[06:15] <ArrenLex> Imagine standing on a boat in the sea. And then imagine removing that boat because you decide you want a different boat. Uhhh...
[06:15] <bm0nk> sorry for the repeat...pressed the wrong button
[06:16] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: this is a fresh install of edgy on this machine though so ymmv
[06:16] <ArrenLex> mister: _I_ don't have it. Elliot accidentally installed it. I was helping him remove it.
[06:16] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: i'm specifically talking about the stuff you said YOU had on YOUR machine, like the japanese dictionary and povmodeler
[06:17] <ArrenLex> mister: surprising. I know for certain that kpovmodeler was part of the suite at one point. *shrug* there are still lots of apps you don't need.
[06:17] <ellioTb> aww man, dpkg was interrupted
[06:17] <ellioTb> i think i just restarted X while the last terminal was running
[06:17] <ellioTb> doh
[06:17] <ArrenLex> elliot: oops. xD "apt-get -f install"
[06:17] <ArrenLex> and then re-run that crazy long command to get everything you didn't get to.
[06:18] <bm0nk> can anyone help? i really need to go to bed but i cant turn my computer off without knowing wireless will work when i wake up
[06:18] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, thanx, there it goes
[06:18] <nocti> bm0nk, pull the plug
[06:18] <ArrenLex> Okay, mister, I just typed in 'apt-get install kde'. Selected randomly: kasteroids, quanta, kstars, kbattleship, kfax, kwifimanager, amor, atlantik. Mostly the random games.
[06:19] <bm0nk> nocti : so WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line1: ignoring bad line starting with 'islsm'
[06:19] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, so after this, if i just want to check it out, i can just do an apt-get install kde-core?
[06:19] <bm0nk> nocti : so WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line1: ignoring bad line starting with 'islsm'       - isnt bad? and it will all work tomorrow ?
[06:19] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: besides the games, quanta and kwifimanager are very useful. quanta is an awesome html editor
[06:19] <ArrenLex> elliot: yes. And make sure you either use aptitude so it removes everything it installed with it, or else paste the packages it installed into a text file so you can remove them all later!
[06:20] <nocti> bm0nk, go to sleep. it will work...
[06:20] <ArrenLex> mister: of course it is. But _I_ don't have a use for an html editor. I'm sure it's very useful for some people.
[06:20] <ArrenLex> kvoctrain
[06:20] <ArrenLex> kweather
[06:20] <bm0nk> nocti : ok... sorry its just i've spent 4 days in a row trying to get it to work and now finally it does i dont want to lose it :P
[06:20] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, whats aptitude
[06:21] <ellioTb> lol, noob question
[06:21] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: of course you could make the same complaint about all the "crap" in ubuntu (gnome desktop)
[06:21] <nocti> bm0nk, it's just a warning. warnings are usually that... warnings. but you can look over your modprobe.conf, look for that line and comment it out.
[06:21] <jimerson> I figured out my trackpad slow cursor problem!
[06:21] <ellioTb> mister_roboto_, touche
[06:21] <ArrenLex> ellioTB: aptitude is similar to apt-get, except it also provides a GUI if you need it, it also installs "recommended" packages rather than just what you need, and it remembers what packages were also installed when you tried to install some package, and removes them all once you remove that one package.
[06:22] <ixian_> i
[06:22] <bm0nk> nocti : well someone told me to put    islsm   in /etc/modprobe.conf so it will load it when i reboot, i just though that warning meant that i hadn't done it right
[06:22] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, i have some package manager, prolly not aptitude though
[06:22] <ArrenLex> mister: I certainly could, and I do. I installed ubuntu from the alternate version. I didn't even have X when I started; I added only what I needed.
[06:22] <nocti> bm0nk,  man islsm
[06:22] <ellioTb> mister_roboto_, the prollem is having crap from both
[06:22] <ArrenLex> ellioTb: everyone has aptitude, it's part of the install. You're talking about synaptic, which is an X app.
[06:22] <bm0nk> nocti : no manual entry for islsm
[06:23] <nocti> bm0nk, ah...
[06:23] <nix_chix0r> May i speak with room 2H please?
[06:23] <KumoriJinsoku> can someone help me with installing mplayer?
[06:23] <ArrenLex> Kumori: what help do you need?
[06:23] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: good practice for a server. i find it hard to get too anal about a desktop with a big disk though, as long as all the services are tightly under control
[06:23] <nocti> bm0nk, if it worked when you booted earlier. i trust it will work tomorrow when you have a clearer head :)
[06:23] <ellioTb> ahh, i didn't see kde-core in aptitude
[06:23] <ArrenLex> mister: I just don't like crap on my drive. It's the way I am.
[06:23] <KumoriJinsoku> ArrenLex: for some reason, I can't find mplayer. I've opened all my repos in the sources.list but I can't install it.
[06:24] <ArrenLex> Kumori: it's not there. Ubuntu refuses to ship mplayer because of patent worries. You're going to have to find it on a third-party repository or build it from source yourself.
[06:24] <bm0nk> nocti : no thats the thing...i havent rebooted since i turned my machine on....but ive just got it to work and someone told me to put the islsm line in modprobe.conf but i just wasnt sure if i did it right :s
[06:24] <feliciano> I need to install Transmission... somebody do this?
[06:24] <com4> I'm trying to write an rsync script using the RSYNC_PASSWORD environment variable, but /usr/bin/rsync seems to be ignoring it. Can anyone help?
[06:24] <nocti> ArrenLex, if you *really* want a clean system, just the apps you want/need, try LFS distro.
[06:25] <ellioTb> won't AutomatiX install it
[06:25] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, not true. mplayer is in Multiverse
[06:25] <ArrenLex> nocti: I want a "clean" system, with just the apps I want\need, without having to build every single one from source. =P
[06:25] <Madpilot> !info mplayer
[06:25] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[06:25] <KumoriJinsoku> ArrenLex: ah ok. How would I go about doing that then? what build should I get?
[06:25] <ArrenLex> Oh. So it is. My apologies; I guess that was debian.
[06:25] <ArrenLex> Kumori: I'm told it's in multiverse.
[06:25] <Madpilot> KumoriJinsoku, enable the Multiverse repo, get mplayer
[06:25] <nocti> ArrenLex, how about installing ubuntu server and starting from that. kde/gnome usually has their own baggage of crap anyway you install em
[06:26] <ArrenLex> nocti: but I adore KDE. It's customisable and powerful and familiar.
[06:26] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, i am excited about gettin back into it to check it out
[06:26] <nocti> ArrenLex, and slow :)
[06:26] <SoulBlink> does anybody know who to enable core dumps in ubuntu?
[06:26] <ArrenLex> Not slow for me.
[06:26] <ellioTb> only had linux again for under a week, trying to get back into the swing of things
[06:26] <ArrenLex> Maybe I just don't know what fast is or have a snappy machine. But I'm perfectly alright with it.
[06:27] <mister_roboto_> ArrenLex: you'd probably be better off going with Linux From Scratch ;)
[06:27] <JosephRivers> I'm trying to get a java application to run on Linux, and it's not working particularly well. The application only partially draws itself on the screen, but when I move the mouse around and interact with some of the widgets they start to draw themselves. Any suggestions on what I can do to make the app display normally?
[06:27] <ArrenLex> mister_roboto: I don't want to compile everything from source. I've always felt that source-based distros were for the immortal.
[06:27] <KumoriJinsoku> Madpilot: I believe I have the universe repo enabled under my source.list. Should I type in "apt-get install mplayer" to get it then?
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Joseph: what Java did you install?
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Jumori: multiverse is different from universe.
[06:27] <Madpilot> KumoriJinsoku, multiverse is seperate from universe
[06:28] <ArrenLex> Kumori *
[06:28] <ellioTb> gnome isn't so slow on my desktop cause that is a LOT faster than this notebook with a lot more RAM
[06:28] <SoulBlink> core dumps, anybody, nobody?
[06:28] <JosephRivers> ArrenLex: I tried it first with blackdown; then I tried with Sun's java. Both of them exhibited the same behavior.
[06:28] <KumoriJinsoku> Madpilot: oh. I meant that.   meant to say multiverse instead of universe.
[06:28] <KumoriJinsoku> my bad
[06:28] <ArrenLex> Joseph: you're certain that's what you were using? What you described sounds an awful lot like GJI.
[06:28] <Madpilot> KumoriJinsoku, yes, then 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' would work
[06:29] <ellioTb> don't you have to get all the codecs and stuff to watch stuff in mplayer also
[06:29] <ArrenLex> elliot: you need proprietary codecs for proprietary formats, yes.
[06:29] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: what about core dumps?
[06:30] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: why doesn't ubuntu include w32codecs in some repo?
[06:30] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: how do I enable them
[06:30] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, legality, or lack thereof
[06:30] <JosephRivers> ArrenLex: I don't really know how to specify which verision of java to run. What I did is just set /usr/bin/java to point to /opt/<java version>/bin/java. Will that be enough to specify the version of java to run or do I also need to change class paths and things like that.
[06:30] <LookTJ> Hey y'all
[06:30] <gtl> hello! need help! ubuntu x86_64
[06:30] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: also can you explain to me why Mplayer is "non-free"?
[06:30] <LookTJ> How are y'all
[06:30] <ellioTb> gtl, whats up
[06:30] <gtl> wine
[06:30] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, because it's not actually open-source, I gather. I don't use it myself.
[06:30] <ArrenLex> Joseph: it should be enough, yeah.
[06:31] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: of course it's open-source! I've compiled it dozens of times. It's GPL.
[06:31] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: you getting 0 length core files? or none? try "man core"
[06:31] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, in that case, I've no idea
[06:31] <SoulBlink> none
[06:31] <gtl> ellioTb, can't install wine
[06:31] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: none
[06:31] <KumoriJinsoku> Madpilot: it tells me: "Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[06:31] <ixian__> does ubuntu need to be installed on a primary partition?
[06:31] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: voila wikipedia: License: GPL
[06:31] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: I already tried setting ulimit to 1024 and unlimited
[06:31] <ellioTb> gtl, how far have you gotten
[06:31] <picasso> hi. i've got dell inspiron 6000, recently upgraded 5.10 -> 6.06, and i just realized that my sound no longer works with xmms or mpg123 ('can't open default sound device')
[06:31] <picasso> anybody know what would have changed? /dev/dsp no longer works?S
[06:31] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: I am getting no man for core
[06:31] <Madpilot> JosephRivers, the Java wiki page includes directions on getting your system to use Sun Java instead of the isntalled free one
[06:32] <picasso> or whatever sound device they try to use
[06:32] <ArrenLex> ixian: no, Linux is an OS which can be installed on Logical partitions. Grub will know how to find it.
[06:32] <gansinho> hello, I've changed the name of my home in desktop via gnome configuration editor, and now I've an annoying message everytime I start nautilus, even though I've already tried to change the problematic entry
[06:32] <kbee> ixian__: no
[06:32] <Healot> Linux is just the operating system kernel, ehem
[06:32] <ArrenLex> Healot: "Linux-based operating systems" =P
[06:32] <Healot> ehem
[06:33] <valehru> Hey guys, I want to stream a couple of directories of MP3's over my LAN.  Does anyone know a good application to do this?
[06:33] <gtl> ellioTb, OpenGL crashes "./configure"
[06:33] <Healot> VLC
[06:33] <ellioTb> hrmm, have you tried that wine-config program?
[06:33] <ellioTb> i forgot exactly what its called, i used that to walk me through everything
[06:33] <ellioTb> didn't have to configure, make or anything
[06:34] <Healot> with VLC, File->Wizard; Stream to network
[06:34] <ixian__> okay, so i have 2 drives, master 80gb drive with winxp on it, and a slave 160gb drive. so i can say for example make a 10gb logical partition on the slave drive and ubuntu will install to that?
[06:34] <valehru> Healot, thanks
[06:34] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: looking
[06:34] <gtl> ellioTb, is there one for my processor?
[06:34] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: thanks for the effort
[06:34] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: there has to be something I am missing
[06:35] <ellioTb> gtl, try a sudo apt-get wineconfig
[06:35] <ellioTb> or something like that
[06:35] <ArrenLex> ixian: yes, grub will know how to find it.
[06:35] <ellioTb> anyone know what the wine config package is?
[06:35] <valehru> Healot, can you enable multiple directories, or is it only 1 file at a time?
[06:35] <ArrenLex> elliot: I understand they're trying to compile wine. Otherwise they'd not be running configure.
[06:35] <picasso> with ubuntu 6.06, should i be using OSS driver, esound, ALSA? (for xmms)
[06:35] <ArrenLex> picasso: ALSA
[06:35] <gtl> ellioTb, hold...
[06:35] <bernie> i'm trying to  get fglrx working with 3d fun, but when i try fglrxinfo it syas all my opengl stuff is mesa, not ati. what'd i do wrong?
[06:35] <Healot> you can select multiple files from multiple directories, valehru
[06:36] <picasso> ArrenLex: is that different than 5.10 was?
[06:36] <ArrenLex> No.
[06:36] <picasso> mpg123 <file.mp3> doesn't work by default right now
[06:36] <smoked1> I have a pcmcia card reader and I have a card in it right now. I can see the card mounted under "Computer" but when I double click it nothing happens.
[06:36] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, yeah, i just used some config program for wine, and it ddi all the hard stuff for me
[06:36] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: is it somewhere in the /etc/security file?
[06:36] <ArrenLex> bernie: do you have restricted modules installed? Do you have the fglrx driver installed? Did you set your xorg.conf to use the fglrx driver?
[06:36] <gtl> ellioTb, E: impossible to find package wine-config"
[06:36] <ArrenLex> ellioTb: I assume you weren't compiling wine from source, but working with the binaries.
[06:36] <Ferox^> Anyone here think they can give me a hand with getting my laptop's broadcom wifi adapter to connect? I have added the firmware for it.. but for some reason everytime I try to connect to my WEP router it wont' connect .. at least not at first.. I have to keep entering the key over and over
[06:37] <ellioTb> arren, i was using the packages
[06:37] <ArrenLex> gtl: no, ellioTb is talking about something else. Can you paste me the part where configure fails?
[06:37] <Ferox^> It finally works after a while
[06:37] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: never mind
[06:37] <smoked1> Ferox: try installing Network Tools
[06:37] <ellioTb> lol, yeah, ask the real experts, i have only hadl inux a week lol
[06:37] <gtl> ArrentLex: in portuguese?
[06:37] <bernie> ArrenLex, oddly enough i have a device section for both radeon and fglrx. how can i tell which device it used? restricted is installed, fglrx is installed from repo.
[06:37] <ArrenLex> gtl: portuguese? What? o_o
[06:38] <ArrenLex> bernie: do you have two video cards? A dual-head setup? Something equally weird?
[06:38] <gtl> ArrenLex: just kidding!
[06:38] <ArrenLex> ... ha ha?
[06:38] <stopgo> can anyone tell me why my nm-applet doesn't show wireless networks? i read that it wouldn't show interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces, so i changed that to exclude my wireless interfaces and it didnt help
[06:38] <bernie> ArrenLex, integrated, but i don't want to use it. i just can't turn it off in bios unfortunatly
[06:38] <gtl> ArrenLex: guess it's something about repositories
[06:38] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, i keep watching this thing remove packages i wanted, lol
[06:38] <bernie>  ArrenLex I have integrated and an radeon card
[06:39] <ArrenLex> bernie: integrated ATI?
[06:39] <ArrenLex> /info bernie
[06:39] <ArrenLex> Dammit -_-
[06:39] <ArrenLex> There we go, it's /whois
[06:39] <bernie> ArrenLex, integrated intel, addon ati 9200PRO, can't turn off the integrated
[06:39] <ArrenLex> Got it.
[06:39] <ArrenLex> bernie: pastebin the output of "lspci"
[06:39] <ArrenLex> bernie: also pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:40] <gtl> ArrenLex: or perhaps something relates to the video driver?
[06:40] <nefarious> Hi all
[06:40] <ArrenLex> gtl: can you pastebin the error ./configure gives you, please?
[06:40] <bernie> ArrenLex, would fglrxinfo work if it was using the radeon driver? i think it's just using the wrong openGL librarys but i don't know how to change them
[06:41] <ArrenLex> bernie: I'm using radeon and fglrxinfo works for me. It just shows mesa.
[06:41] <nefarious> any chance anyone here is running ubuntu on a aspire 5500z?
[06:41] <bernie> ArrenLex, i'm gonna try restarting x without the radeon section in xorg
[06:41] <ArrenLex> Aight.
[06:42] <Ferox^> nefarious: nope, are you having trouble with your wireless?
[06:42] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: you still there?
[06:42] <nefarious> no i foolowed some instructions online and got that working. got problems with the monitor though
[06:43] <ArrenLex> nefarious: "problems"?
[06:43] <nefarious> resolution and such... image is not clear
[06:43] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: ulimit -c <bignumber>   (like 50000 or more) to enable cores
[06:43] <Ferox^> nefarious: ahh, well at least you're ahead of me, i'm still having networking issues
[06:43] <ArrenLex> nefarious: is your resolution too low? You can change it by going sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <nefarious> when i look in xorg.conf,  under Monitor it says only generic monitor
[06:43] <gtl> configure: WARNING: Wine will be build without OpenGL or Direct3D support
[06:43] <gtl> configure: WARNING: because something is wrong with the OpenGL setup:
[06:43] <gtl> configure: WARNING: No OpenGL library found on this system.
[06:43] <gtl> Configure finished.  Do 'make depend && make' to compile Wine.
[06:43] <nefarious> ok ill try that 1 sec
[06:44] <ArrenLex> gtl: do you need 3D support in wine?
[06:44] <nefarious> Ferox if you want i can try to find the webpage i foolowed for the wireless
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> How can I set mount options for devices handled by hal instead of fstab?  For instance, I would like to make USB flash drives mount with the 'sync' option rather than the default.
[06:45] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: ya,I already tried that it still doesn't work
[06:45] <gtl> ArrenLex: yes I'll need it
[06:46] <FriedGeek> Thanks for the blog post ArrenLex. And you are right on all counts. :-)
[06:46] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: well i just did it and it does work. you need to be in a dir that is writeable
[06:46] <Soekisan> can someone recomend me a good ftp client?
[06:46] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: and i have the core file to prove it  ;)
[06:46] <NoobZaibot> Hello
[06:46] <ArrenLex> gtl: try -- and I'm not at all sure about this --  installing xlibmesa-dev
[06:46] <kromel> Hello
[06:46] <nix_chix0r> LOLOCANO
[06:46] <NoobZaibot> How do i recompile the kernel to run at 1000hz ?
[06:47] <ArrenLex> NO
[06:47] <ArrenLex> libgl1-mesa-dev
[06:47] <ArrenLex> and libglu1-mesa-dev
[06:47] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Since I hadn't really invested much in it I just re-installed. Eventually I'll get my screen resolution up.
[06:47] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: also, the executable used for the process has to be readable, not just executable
[06:47] <Soekisan> !ftp
[06:47] <ArrenLex> gtl: Actually, do you have x-window-system-core, xlibs, and xlibs-dev installed?
[06:47] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:47] <nix_chix0r> hai2u mister_roboto_
[06:47] <smoked1> I have used this pcmcia card to read this memory stick before but now it wont work. Any ideas?
[06:48] <smoked1> It's mounted but I cant view the contents
[06:48] <mister_roboto_> nix_chix0r: domo
[06:48] <FriedGeek> Is there FileZilla for Linux? That's my fav.
[06:49] <FriedGeek> FTP that is.
[06:49] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: the core will probably be written to the dir from which you started the process. you might just be missing it. maybe "find / -name core -type f" if all else fails :)
[06:49] <Soekisan> i cant find it
[06:49] <ellioTb> ArrenLex, its still uninstalling stuff, lol
[06:49] <Soekisan> i mean filezilla.
[06:49] <tuxmaniac> How to change the host name?? Like I have tuxmaniac@dapper$ at the console. I want it to be now tuxmaniac@edgy$ any pointers?
[06:49] <Healot> FriedGeek, FileZilla with a taste of WINE works
[06:49] <nefarious> ok i dont know what i just did
[06:49] <kromel> FriedGeek, ooh, I'll have to check that out.  I did enjoy FileZilla when I used Windows.
[06:49] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: typically there aren't versions of Windows apps for Linux. Try gftp!
[06:49] <nefarious> do i have to restart X after this ?
[06:49] <tuxmaniac> How to change the host name?? Like I have tuxmaniac@dapper$ at the console. I want it to be now tuxmaniac@edgy$ any pointers?
[06:50] <NoobZaibot> How do i recompile the kernel to run at 1000hz ?
[06:50] <gtl> ArrenLes: x-libs-dev: impossible to find
[06:50] <smoked1> FriedGeek: Just use gftp
[06:50] <ArrenLex> tuxmaniac: /etc/hostname. Edit it.
[06:50] <Healot> sudo hostname <new hostname>
[06:50] <smoked1> works great
[06:50] <ArrenLex> gtl: xlibs-dev
[06:50] <FriedGeek> Cool.
[06:50] <nefarious> ill restart brb
[06:51] <ArrenLex> tuxmaniac: Healot is right, run "sudo hostname edgy"
[06:51] <gtl> ArrenLes: oops! xlibs-dev : most recent
[06:51] <Soekisan> ill try that gftp
[06:51] <ArrenLex> gtl: that's fine. Do you also have x-window-system-core and xlibs?
[06:51] <kromel> hmm, gftp actually looks real nixe.
[06:51] <tuxmaniac> ArrenLex> Done thanks guys
[06:52] <tuxmaniac> Healot>
[06:52] <NoobZaibot> How do i recompile the kernel to run at 1000hz ? hellooo
[06:52] <ArrenLex> NoobZaibot: what do you mean, "run at 1000hz"?
[06:52] <gtl> ArrenLes: "E: Package has no candidate for installation!
[06:52] <ArrenLex> gtl: what package is this?
[06:53] <gtl> ArrenLes: xlibs
[06:53] <NoobZaibot> i need to recompile it to run the timer at 1000hz
[06:53] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: readable by who?
[06:53] <ArrenLex> gtl: actually, you don't need xlibs. Make sure you have x-window-system-core and xlibs-dev.
[06:53] <mister_roboto_> by the uid running the process
[06:53] <ArrenLex> SoulBlink: by WHOM?
[06:53] <SoulBlink> ArrenLex: thank you
[06:54] <FriedGeek> lol
[06:54] <gtl> ArrenLes: both are most recent
[06:54] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: ok, so ulimit is set, I think it lies in the readable nonsense
[06:54] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25636/
[06:54] <nefarious> ok back.... bad news... now im at 640x480 resolution
[06:54] <Cade> odd question, but can anyone here read Catalan?
[06:55] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: you need to set "ulimit -c"
[06:55] <NoobZaibot> ArrenLex: Hello ?
[06:56] <ellioTb> odd question, but can anyone here read Klingon?
[06:56] <ArrenLex> Hi! What do you need?
[06:56] <FriedGeek> I've got my fresh (10 min old) install doing it's initial update, then it's back to trying to get my screen up to 1280x1024.
[06:56] <Healot> linux font space has reserved klingon entry :)
[06:56] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: silly thing wont take SIGABRT as an option for kill
[06:56] <Cade> -_-'
[06:56] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: this machine is driving me nuts
[06:56] <ArrenLex> Oh. Sorry, Noob, I can't help you. xD I don't know.
[06:56] <NoobZaibot> ok
[06:56] <NoobZaibot> nvm
[06:57] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: use "-6" instead of "-SIGABRT" then   or did you forget the hyphen?
[06:57] <nefarious> my xorg.conf says 1280x800 but im at 640x480 after restarting
[06:57] <kromel> Setting Ubuntu on a Machine with an onboard video and a PCI video card was a pain.
[06:58] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: I just used ABRT
[06:58] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: and it aborted and didn't dump
[06:58] <ArrenLex> nefarious: what happens if you ctrl+plus? (plus as in the plus sign on your numpad_
[06:58] <ArrenLex> )
[06:58] <FriedGeek> Maybe that's my issue.
[06:58] <mister_roboto_> SoulBlink: what does "ulimit -c" give you?
[06:58] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that's ctl+alt+plus
[06:58] <FriedGeek> I've got a via chipset onboard and an Nvidia 5900 AGP.
[06:58] <nefarious> nothing at all
[06:58] <bl4cktone> Quick question guys,  is it good to give a gift card after an IT interview with a written thankyou letter?  I don't know if that's maybe overboard or if something else would be better
[06:58] <ArrenLex> Friedgeek: is that... bad? xD
[06:58] <MrKeuner> hi, are there more packages in source repositories than in binary repositories? And are surce files in source repositories different from the sources distributed by the project itself?
[06:59] <mister_roboto_> bl4cktone: a gift card?!?!   ummm  yes, overboard
[06:59] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: I was execing a new shell and ulimit must be session based
[06:59] <nefarious> what is suuposed to happen?
[06:59] <nefarious> supposed*
[06:59] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: I don't know. X)
[06:59] <morrissey> hi all
[06:59] <fubuntu_> why is it that i can't uninstall open office?!!!
[06:59] <fubuntu_> it's got some locK!
[06:59] <fubuntu_> omg
[06:59] <steveneddy> hey morrissey
[06:59] <morrissey> anyone has a problem like me with an Epson printer cx3200
[07:00] <morrissey> hi Steve
[07:00] <FriedGeek> nixternal: "It's a bit nutty."
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> bl4cktone, definitely overboard. consider it like paperclipping a $20 to your resume ^^
[07:00] <ArrenLex> MrKeuner: There are less source packages than binary packages because some binaries are built from a single source package. But there will be a source package for every binary package, except for the multiverse repo.
[07:00] <ArrenLex> fubuntu: why? What's it saying?
[07:00] <SoulBlink> mister_roboto_: ok, now I just have to figure out how to add reading to this binary with our screwing up the uid it runs as
[07:00] <FriedGeek> "I Mojo Nixion am the anti-morrisey"
[07:00] <nixternal> FriedGeek: whats a bit nutty?
[07:00] <FriedGeek> Sorry couldnt' pass that up
[07:00] <kromel> hmm, paperclipping a $20 to resume.. I may try that next.  Can't be worse then the results I'm having now.
[07:00] <morrissey> I installed on Ubuntu and when I try to print, it starts really slow and then just stops completely
[07:00] <MrKeuner> ArrenLex/ aren't there source packages without their binaries?
[07:00] <ArrenLex> SoulBlink, can't you just "sudo chmod 777 <file>?
[07:00] <morrissey> anybody has any idea ?
[07:00] <fubuntu_> OMG! ArrenLex... it _just_ worked
[07:00] <ArrenLex> MrKeuner: No. That's pointless.
[07:00] <fubuntu_> it had a nice lock
[07:00] <FriedGeek> err sorry.   nix_chix0r: ..bit nutty.
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> kromel, I didn't even need a resume to get my current job...
[07:01] <SoulBlink> ArrenLex: cause its a binary thats set to run as root
[07:01] <SoulBlink> ArrenLex: don't ask, but its screwy
[07:01] <fubuntu_> it couldn't unlock some directory...
[07:01] <nefarious> whats the command to do that config again? dpkg
[07:01] <ArrenLex> SoulBlink... alrighty. o_o /me doesn't ask.
[07:01] <fubuntu_> lol thanks!
[07:01] <kromel> BHSPitLappy, I never had too either till 2001.  the 1990's were soooo easy.
[07:01] <nix_chix0r> hmm FriedGeek i like nutty=) thanks
[07:01] <FriedGeek> Oop. Update done. Back after reboot.
[07:01] <ArrenLex> fubuntu: can't unlock directory means you aren't running as root. Use sudo.
[07:01] <BHSPitLappy> kromel, well, I got my job a week ago. :)
[07:01] <fubuntu_> i did sudo su
[07:01] <MrKeuner> ArrenLex/ why would I want to go with the source when there is already a binary? performance issues?
[07:02] <kromel> BHSPitLappy, wish I can say the same.
[07:02] <fubuntu_> well, gksudo synaptic
[07:02] <ArrenLex> WTF is with all these people and their sudo su?!
[07:02] <BHSPitLappy> kromel, wendy's isn't so bad ;)
[07:02] <fubuntu_> sudo su, sudo su, sudo su
[07:02] <fubuntu_> replace su
[07:02] <fubuntu_> by typing 5 more chars
[07:02] <SoulBlink> alrighty
[07:02] <SoulBlink> thanks
[07:02] <kromel> BHSPitlappy, don't make me go in to convulsions please. heh
[07:02] <ArrenLex> MrKeuner: you wouldn't, unless you want to change the package or if you just really want to build it from source. On modern machines, the performance increase from compiling natively is almost inperceptible.
[07:02] <morrissey> anyone listening ? :-(
[07:03] <MrKeuner> ArrenLex/ OK thanks
[07:03] <BHSPitLappy> kromel, you should work at lowes, all their computers run linux... you could probably do something spiffy and impress them
[07:03] <gtl> ArrenLes: both are most recent
[07:03] <BHSPitLappy> and hack your way up to manager
[07:03] <mneptok> morrissey: what kind of printer? how is it connected to the machine? what driver are you using? how did you install it? do you get any output at all?
[07:03] <bronson> morrissey: yes, but do you expect us to have ESP?
[07:03] <steveneddy> morrissey, can't help you - all HP printers here
[07:03] <ArrenLex> gtk: I don't swing that way, and sorry, I don't know how to help you then? xD
[07:03] <ArrenLex> bronson: he asked his question earlier up =P
[07:03] <kromel> BHSPitLappy, I'm still a linux noob.  as in 1 month of experience.  BUT, I didn't convert 4 friend to linux though.  The army is growing.
[07:03] <fubuntu_> peace
[07:03] <BHSPitLappy> word
[07:04] <kromel> BHSPitLappy, err DID
[07:04] <bronson> ArrenLex: about the printer, I saw it.  But it didn't have any specifics.
[07:04] <BHSPitLappy> kromel, well if we want to continue chit-chatting we should probably move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:04] <morrissey> thanks : it's an epson cx 3200, usb only connection, installed driver provided by Ubuntu, what happens is that the printer is installed, starts printing but very  very slowly then simply doesn't work any more
[07:05] <kromel> BHSPitLappy, probably a good idea
[07:05] <morrissey> any ideas ?
[07:05] <bronson> morrissey: what do your CPU and memory monitors say while printing?
[07:05] <bronson> (or just run top while printing)
[07:05] <nefarious> im going through the xorg reconfigure... can anyone help me through some of the settings please?
[07:05] <morrissey> they go up just a little, but then nothing, back to normal, and the next printing job doesn't affect them at all
[07:06] <bronson> Up a little is fine -- neither one spikes?
[07:06] <ArrenLex> nefarious: what do you need help with?
[07:06] <bl4cktone> Ok so after the interview a physical letter with signature would be best I guess.
[07:06] <bl4cktone> X the starbucks gift card
[07:06] <nefarious> its asking me to input how much memeroy in Kb to give to the video card?
[07:06] <ArrenLex> nefarious: keep the default? o_o
[07:06] <bronson> morrissey: the job stops, then what?  Do you cancel it?  Do you unplug/replug or powercycle the printer?
[07:07] <nefarious> there is nothing in there
[07:07] <nefarious> i leave it blank?
[07:07] <ArrenLex> nefarious: don't ask questions if you won't be bothered to read what the question asks.
[07:07] <morrissey> then I tried all, unplug and plug, restart the printer etc,.. restart the computer too or the X system and the job just stays in the tray saying : "printing" until I have to finally cancel it
[07:07] <ArrenLex> Read the blurb above it and then, if you don't understand, ask.
[07:08] <bronson> morrissey: I've seen this but not for years.
[07:08] <morrissey> and then when I check the printer configuration it says : not connected
[07:08] <morrissey> ahhh
[07:08] <morrissey> what do you think it is Bronson
[07:08] <nefarious> yes it says some integrated chips (like the intel i810) have no memory so for those we need to specify, and thats the one it had selected for me by default
[07:09] <bronson> ... trying to remember.  But I doubt it's the same since it didn't affect the printer connection.
[07:09] <morrissey> yeah, most of the time though it says printer connected, it just stops sending info or something
[07:09] <morrissey> I tried changing usb cable too
[07:09] <ArrenLex> nefarious: you're on an intel chip?
[07:09] <bronson> Trying to print from Abiword would produce weird postscript that would cause some sort of conflict between Ghostscript and GimpPrint's drivers.
[07:09] <morrissey> or putting lower quality paper
[07:09] <bronson> I never tracked it down completely.
[07:09] <Healot> ubuntu xorg doesn't have fbdev driver right?
[07:09] <morrissey> ahhh
[07:10] <nefarious> yes its a laptop acer aspire 5500z
[07:10] <bronson> I only saw this problem with a single file.  I managed to print it by printing specific page ranges and never saw it again.
[07:10] <morrissey> shite, so no solution for now
[07:10] <morrissey> hmmm
[07:10] <bronson> May or may not be the same thing.  *shrug*
[07:10] <morrissey> it's indeed not the same problem
[07:10] <nefarious> it has an integrated intel video card
[07:10] <FriedGeek> Hello all. Could anyone help me get my screen res up to 1280x1024? I've got an Nvidia 5900 AGP card and I'm suck at 1024x768 on a large LCD. I feel like I'm using my grandma's computer. Huge fonts and icons.
[07:10] <ArrenLex> nefarious: how much ram does your computer have?
[07:10] <morrissey> it seems as though the power is too weak or something
[07:11] <morrissey> because why would it print then
[07:11] <morrissey> and then just stop forever
[07:11] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: did you specify the correct resolutions when you configured X?
[07:11] <nefarious> 512 mb
[07:11] <feross> nefarious: just throwing something out but I like to do things simple first to harder later.. I didn't see anything mentioned about going to System>prefs>screen resolution.. did you try changing it there before messing around with the xorg.conf file and such?
[07:11] <morrissey> any ideas mneptok
[07:11] <nefarious> yea its at 640x480 there but cant change it
[07:12] <wall0159> hi all. Has anyone successfully reflashed the firmware on a Seagate hard disk?
[07:12] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: I didn't see an X setup when I installed.
[07:12] <Healot> do you really need firmware flash?
[07:13] <wall0159> well, possibly not, but the drive's unresponsive.. not a happy HD
[07:13] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: firstly, tried what feross suggested for nefarious.
[07:13] <wall0159> not detected by BIOS
[07:13] <mneptok> morrissey: have you tried contacting Epson?
[07:13] <Ademan_>  is there a way to manually bind global and program specific actions to mouse buttons? (i've now got a "12" button mouse)
[07:13] <morrissey> no, not yet
[07:13] <wall0159> but apparently, corrupted firmware is a common problem resulting in an apparently dead HD
[07:13] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Checked Screen res panel. Offers 640/800/1024.
[07:14] <FriedGeek> nothing higher.
[07:14] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: okay, open a term. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[07:14] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: go through the motions. It should be self-evident for the most part.
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Ademan: yes. Look into the "imwheel" program.
[07:15] <hc> hey, i have some problems with unmet dependencies
[07:15] <ArrenLex> !imwheel
[07:15] <ubotu> imwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-5 (dapper), package size 78 kB, installed size 264 kB
[07:15] <ArrenLex> ubotu: imwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-5 (dapper), package size 78 kB, installed size 264 kB
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Yeah, what he said.
[07:15] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Would '
[07:15] <Abst> Anyone know why my fonts are this (this = http://img.waffleimages.com/ee008dd87422981167cf17c366cd8070280054a6/Screenshot-tkMOO-SE%20v0.3.png) small in login and some programs?
[07:15] <nefarious> at the end when it autodetects the monitor it sets it as generic Monitor. is there a way to set it to a tft ?
[07:15] <hc> !unmet dependencies
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmet dependencies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: oops would 'nv' stand for Nvidia?
[07:16] <hc> !unmet
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: "nv" is the open-source driver for nvidia cards. It does not provide 3D acceleration. Do you need 3D acceleration?
[07:16] <hc> hey, i have some problems with unmet dependencies. anyone able to help me?
[07:16] <Ferox^> Got a question for you guys.. for some reason, after I log into ubuntu, it pauses a long time before the desktop shows... any ideas??
[07:16] <Ferox^> I mean like.. 3 minutes or so
[07:17] <ArrenLex> Abst: run "cat ~/.Xresources" and paste the output here.
[07:17] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: I supose not. At least not right away. Does the nv support OpenGL?
[07:17] <wall0159> Ferox - do you have network shared drives? (guess)
[07:17] <Ferox^> no
[07:17] <nefarious> ok tried something going to restart x again
[07:17] <Evilpigster> Hey. Could anyone help me with something?
[07:17] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: You will have to use Mesa Indirect OpenGL emulation. It will be slow.
[07:17] <ArrenLex> !ASK
[07:17] <Ferox^> wall0159: although I was trying to get my broadcom wireless device working when it started
[07:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:17] <Abst> cat: /home/loser/.Xresources: No such file or directory
[07:18] <wall0159> hmm - I'm not terribly knowledgable ;-) it sounds like a timeout. do you know 'dmesg' ?
[07:18] <ArrenLex> Abst: run this:      echo "Xft.dpi: 96" >> ~/.Xresources
[07:18] <ArrenLex> Abst: and restart X.
[07:18] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: I'll go without 3d. I'll be happy with the higher res. So choose 'nv'?
[07:18] <hc> hey, i have some problems with unmet dependencies. anyone able to help me? i've tried apt-get -f install, didn't work
[07:18] <Ferox^> wall0159: Nope
[07:18] <wall0159> open a terminal, and type 'dmesg | tail'
[07:18] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: I think so. Is "nvidia" an option?
[07:19] <Abst> Okay
[07:19] <wall0159> dmesg tells you system messages
[07:19] <Evilpigster> Yesterday after installing a new nvidia driver, when i rebooted it the X server wouldnt start and modprobe nvidia returns "Fatal: module nvidia not found"
[07:19] <Ferox^> I'm pretty much a linux newb, how can I check it out?
[07:19] <wall0159> don't paste the result here
[07:19] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: Did you install all components?
[07:19] <wall0159> hmm. well, you could try looking for something that says about your wireless
[07:19] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: not seeing it Neomagic...newport...nsc...nv..rendition.. Nope.
[07:20] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: then go with nv.
[07:20] <Evilpigster> I believe so
[07:20] <Ferox^> Hmmm...
[07:20] <wall0159> I'm sorry - I doubt I can be much help
[07:20] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Cool. Thanks alot by the way.
[07:20] <Abst> Still the same
[07:20] <Ferox^> No worries.. I just used dmesg, but I don't see anything that says timeout
[07:20] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: "nvidia" is the name of the official nvidia driver. It supports 3D, but the source is not available.
[07:20] <hc> hey, i have some problems with unmet dependencies. anyone able to help me? i've tried apt-get -f install, didn't work.
[07:20] <feross> hc: do you have universal and multiverse in your sources.list file.. also you could add the plf repo and try it again.
[07:20] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: just hope my "help" doesn't screw up your computer. =P Heaven knows it's screwed my own computer up many times.
[07:21] <ArrenLex> hc: what problem?
[07:21] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Ah. I see. Lol
[07:21] <hc> feross: i have all sources uncommented
[07:21] <wall0159> where in the login process does it hang?
[07:21] <Evilpigster> Ive tried alot of changing around with my xorg.conf and still cant get X to start
[07:21] <theguy> okay..so im having a problem watching gbs.tv it says im missing a plug in but when i install it it still does nothing
[07:21] <WhiteNoise> wine, ubuntu, and nvidia drivers 8762 appear to have a problem with all text being invisible in wine apps.  Anyone here found a solution?
[07:21] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: Can't get X to start? What happens when you run 'startx' in the terminal?
[07:21] <Evilpigster> one sec Ill try
[07:22] <feross> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[07:22] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: "Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "
[07:22] <feross> hc:  like that ^^^ ?
[07:22] <ArrenLex> WhiteNoise: highly doubt nividia is at fault there. Did wine work before and stopped now? Or did you change it in some way?
[07:22] <Ferox^> Just right after I put in my password
[07:22] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: No.
[07:22] <Evilpigster> FATAL: Module nvidia not found
[07:23] <Evilpigster> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the nvidia kernel module!
[07:23] <WhiteNoise> ArrenLex, never showed text - switched from gnome.  I've tried 3 versions of wine, and just now tried crossover wine beta.  None show text correctly.
[07:23] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: did you install from official sources or from ubuntu packages?
[07:23] <wall0159> what are the specs of your machine?
[07:23] <Rasta> when using virtual machines like vmware it takes half of the memory and processor when used?
[07:23] <WhiteNoise> ArrenLex, switched from gentoo rather
[07:23] <feross> hc: And this one? -> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[07:23] <ArrenLex> WhiteNoise: do any other apps experience problems?
[07:23] <WhiteNoise> ArrenLex, nope
[07:23] <Rasta> !vmware
[07:23] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[07:23] <Winter-Soulstice> Anyone know when edgy is supposed to have a stablerelease?
[07:23] <Evilpigster> Easy ubuntu
[07:23] <ArrenLex> White: wine installed from the ubuntu repoistories?
[07:23] <ArrenLex> repositories?
[07:24] <Rasta> !windows
[07:24] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:24] <ArrenLex> !edgy
[07:24] <Winter-Soulstice> !edgy
[07:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:24] <ArrenLex> !schedule
[07:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Ugh.
[07:24] <Evilpigster> Easyubuntu uses the official drivers i think
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Oct. 2something.
[07:24] <Cade> 26
[07:24] <WhiteNoise> ArrenLex, yes, on one attempt, tried dapper, edgy, also wine source from winehq, tried crossover wine as mentioned
[07:24] <ArrenLex> White: when you compiled from sources, did configure give you any warnings?
[07:25] <WhiteNoise> ArrenLex, no, but winecfg still showed normal app with tabs, etc, but text all invisible.
[07:25] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Here goes nothing. CTRL+ALT+BS to restart X, right?
[07:25] <Evilpigster> Does anyone know a temporary fix to at least start X? Maybe by trying a generic driver?
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: use the "nv" driver.
[07:26] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: yeah.
[07:26] <Evilpigster> Alright, ill try that and see what it says
[07:26] <Evilpigster> :D
[07:26] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Fingers crossed......
[07:26] <glyph_> hello
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Hi glyph.
[07:27] <glyph_> just thought i would stop in in windoze atm sadly...
[07:27] <Evilpigster> I tried "nv" typed "
[07:28] <Evilpigster> should I reboot?
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: finish your sentence. o_o typed?
[07:28] <Evilpigster> lol woah
[07:28] <Evilpigster> I meant to say
[07:28] <ArrenLex> !enter
[07:28] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:29] <Evilpigster> I restarted gdm
[07:29] <Evilpigster> err, X server
[07:29] <ArrenLex> XD
[07:29] <ArrenLex> You're not very good at this elephant
[07:29] <ArrenLex> I mean speaking thing
[07:29] <ArrenLex> You changed the driver to nv? Restart X.
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Wait, how can you have X running? I thought it didn't start.
[07:29] <kyja> lol enter key as punctuation. ???? what !!!????
[07:30] <Evilpigster> Yes and I got this error: EE - Failed to initialize GLX extension
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: if you're using the nv driver, comment out the glx extension in /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[07:30] <vanhtu1987> Evilpigster: Then try disabling gfl and possibly dri ext.
[07:30] <ArrenLex> kyja, some people use the enter key in place of a comma, semicolon or period.
[07:30] <vanhtu1987> I meant glx
[07:31] <ArrenLex> i.e. rather than saying "I use Ubuntu, and I hate it, because Debian owns all", they would say
[07:31] <ArrenLex> I use Ubuntu
[07:31] <ArrenLex> and I hate it
[07:31] <ArrenLex> because Debian owns all.
[07:31] <ArrenLex> And it's annoying.
[07:31] <Evilpigster> heh
[07:31] <kyja> ah so as in adressing you.
[07:31] <kyja> ArrenLex,
[07:31] <kyja> then my message
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Sure.
[07:31] <ArrenLex> That too.
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Or like this.
[07:31] <kyja> yup bad habbit.
[07:31] <ArrenLex> This is bad too.
[07:31] <feross> ok ok . we get the point!!!
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Wow, it's quiet here.
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Oh, of course. There's only 836 people.
[07:32] <Evilpigster> vanhtu1987, I already disabled dri and glcore
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: disable glx
[07:32] <Evilpigster> Not sure what gfl is
[07:32] <vanhtu1987> Evilpigster: how about glx ?
[07:32] <Evilpigster> Oh ok
[07:32] <ArrenLex> /me's advice is ignored. :(
[07:32] <ArrenLex> ...dammit.
[07:32] <ianm_> just added a new (well, rewritten C -> Ruby) screen ruler to Gnome CVS, anyone interested in testing? (super easy to setup in Ubuntu, I can tell you exactly what to type)
[07:32] <Evilpigster> Alright I will try that
[07:33] <kyja> 836 I think 800 of them forgot they logged into irc channel long time ago and hid the app.
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Kruler owns you, thanks. :)
[07:33] <ArrenLex> kyja: they're probably all FBI agents watching for predators. The Linux channel is aswarm with innocent young girls, you see.
[07:33] <ianm_> ArrenLex: everyone loves running KDE software in Gnome...
[07:34] <deathz0r> maybe this is no the right channel. but can someone tell just how to change text color of everything i write on xchat2
[07:34] <ianm_> looks like http://linuxadvocate.org/projects/gruler/screenshot6.png
[07:34] <ArrenLex> ianm: everyone loves KDE and not running Gnome. :)
[07:34] <Prez> hello...
[07:34] <Evilpigster> Ok, well disabling GLX got rid of this error (EE - Failed to initialize GLX extension) but it still has the last error "no GLX visuals available"
[07:34] <deathz0r> i put a transparent backgroung and i cant change the gray color of my own text
[07:34] <deathz0r> cant seem to find it
[07:34] <Prez> someone have an IBM X32 doing direct rendering?  I've tried all docs on the web...
[07:34] <Evilpigster> I also installed XGL hoping that thats not a problem with it
[07:34] <kyja> ah, well then they are welcome to be here.
[07:35] <ianm_> ArrenLex: pay attention.
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: uh, duh that's a problem! The nv driver doesn't support 3D acceleration.
[07:35] <deathz0r> hmm
[07:35] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Well since the command was still in my terminal history I was able to drop back to 1024.
[07:35] <ArrenLex> ianm: I know! Gnome ruler! Gnome CVS! I'm just giving props to KDE because she is my mistress.
[07:35] <ianm_> ArrenLex: I mean to reality :)
[07:35] <Evilpigster> Gahh! I got to start paying attention...
[07:35] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: who? what? where? when? why? o__O
[07:36] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: the xconfig didn't take, couldn't get back to x after the changes. trying again.
[07:36] <Evilpigster> is there a way to remove beryl-manager from the start up?
[07:36] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: what errors did it give?
[07:37] <Prez> no ThinkPad X31 or X32 users?
[07:37] <vanhtu1987> Evilpigster: does Ubuntu desktop uses 'xserver-xorg' (I'm not sure as I've no Ubuntu box here right now), if it does, try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: the people in #ubuntu+1 will probably be better at answering your beryl questions.
[07:37] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: It gave a garbled CLI prompt saying it was an invalid x config and couldn't start x. Did I want to view the X server log.. yada yada..
[07:38] <Evilpigster> Alright thanks for the help, I'll try that channel. :D
[07:38] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: I certainly want to see the X server log.
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Evilpigster: my bad. #ubuntu-xgl
[07:38] <Evilpigster> Hah, np thx
[07:39] <FriedGeek> Well I ran the x config again and I was able to at least come back to 1024. I'm trying again and if it still craps out I'll try to pull the log back with me.
[07:39] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: hold on, wait.
[07:39] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: k
[07:39] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: pastebin your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:40] <Ferox^> Question: Whenever I login to ubuntu after entering password, it freezes for about 3 minutes. Also, whenever I open the network settings window.. it won't pull up, and will ahve to be force closed. Any ideas??
[07:41] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: I hope this doesn't torque anyone else off. ...# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package up
[07:41] <vanhtu1987> Ferox^: try switching to console and login from there, what did the logs say ?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Friedgeek: pastebin!
[07:41] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[07:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:42] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: oop. ummm..... *looking I'm in Kopete...*
[07:42] <ArrenLex> Firstly, it cuts off, secondly, yes it WILL annoy people, and thirdly I will be able to read it more easily if formatting is retained.
[07:42] <fubuntu> I can't figure out why module.h is being funny...
[07:42] <fubuntu> do any of you guys have a funny module.h?
[07:42] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: just go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:42] <Ferox^> vanhtu1987: I can't see anything that says timing out in the dmesg if that's what you're asking.. any other place I could look?
[07:43] <fubuntu> why is kern 2.6 bringing so much havoc?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: why are you in kopete if you're not running KDE anyway?
[07:43] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Just did a synapse search for IRC... *sheepish* 001. # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) 002. # 003. # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using 004. # values from the debconf database. 005. # 006. # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. 007. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) 008. # 009. # This file is au
[07:43] <ArrenLex> ...
[07:44] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Crap.
[07:44] <fubuntu> so out of all these users, the ones which are online reading this message there isn't a _single_ user who didn't have to use module.h to write device drivers?
[07:44] <ArrenLex> What are you doing?
[07:44] <deepak> Can anyone help me in getting the info on the IDEs for building C++ app
[07:44] <ArrenLex> fubuntu: personally I don't... write device drivers. o_o
[07:44] <ArrenLex> With module.h or otherwise.
[07:44] <fubuntu> bah!
[07:44] <ArrenLex> You might get more help at some ubuntu developer channel.
[07:44] <fubuntu> sigh*
[07:44] <fubuntu> :)
[07:44] <fubuntu> trying..
[07:44] <fubuntu> thanks
[07:45] <vanhtu1987> Ferox^: GNOME and X are big beasts, I'm not sure what's causing this, can you try installing a light-weight Window Manager, icewm or fvmw could help.
[07:45] <ArrenLex> I totally read that as "big breasts".
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Something's wrong with me.
[07:45] <theunruled> so... how do you configure mpd?
[07:46] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: http://google.com/notebook/public/10759102673738384372/BDQUHIwoQiobqjuEh
[07:46] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: One way or another... :-)
[07:46] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: what the hell is wrong with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ? Or even pastebin.ca?
[07:47] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: there's your problem. Hold on.
[07:47] <poningru> deepak: eclipse?
[07:47] <poningru> with the correct module ofcourse
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Wow, FriedGeek, you have a lot of crap here. Do you even have a touchpad and a stylus?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> stylus -> tablet
[07:48] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: I think it was the IRC client I'm using. I pasted into paste.u... got back the plane with the text couldn't paste it in here right. Umm no stylus or touchpad.
[07:49] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: the idea is that you upload your text to the site and then give me the link, and I read it on that site.
[07:49] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: no tablet?
[07:50] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Then it was 100% pilot error. Didn't follow the concept, my bad. I did have one but none is plugged in now. I gave it away months ago. Had XP installed then. Drive was formatted before U install.
[07:51] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: Your xorg.conf has sections allowing you to use a touchpad and a tablet, in case you have them. Mine had them too. My question to you is, do you NEED this capability?
[07:51] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Not at all.
[07:51] <deepak> eclipse 2 heavy some light weight 1?
[07:51] <surface> deepak:  ajunta, kdevelop3
[07:51] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: don't mind if I remove them? Or would you prefer me to comment them out so you can put them back if you need to? Or shall I just leave them?
[07:51] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Nukem
[07:52] <surface> anjunta sorry type
[07:52] <deepak> try kdevelop3 .. thanz buddy
[07:52] <surface> typo
[07:52] <surface> deepak:  anjunta is lighter than kdev
[07:53] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: go to /etc/X11 and back up your current xorg.conf, i.e. move it to xorg.conf.bak or something.
[07:53] <surface> deepak:  remember to download libtool as well
[07:53] <ajmitch> mneptok: interesting city, montreal :)
[07:53] <nefarious> ArrenLex thanks for the help i got it back to normal :0
[07:53] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: tell me when you're done.
[07:53] <deepak> Sure thanz again
[07:53] <nefarious> :)
[07:53] <ArrenLex> nefarious: What help? xD
[07:53] <mneptok> ajmitch: aye. and i tend to only see it at night.
[07:54] <ajmitch> mneptok: so did I, for UBZ
[07:54] <nefarious> well for taking the time :P
[07:54] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Ready.
[07:54] <mneptok> ajmitch: ah, don't think there will be one this year. the dev summit is in november @ google.
[07:54] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: your new, shiny, magical xorg.conf is at http://arrenlex.diff.be/xorg.conf
[07:55] <ajmitch> mneptok: yes, I'm trying to see if I can get there
[07:55] <ArrenLex> Reboot after you do that.
[07:55] <ArrenLex> Or, not reboot. Restart x.
[07:55] <ArrenLex> </windows mentality>
[07:55] <mneptok> ajmitch: dunno yet if they want me there or not. if i go, i'll try to find you.
[07:56] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex:doh, don't have permission to save over it?
[07:56] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: Are you trying to save from the browser? That won't work.
[07:56] <FriedGeek> was trying to save from gedit.
[07:56] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: if you're sure you've backed it up, go to the terminal. Do the following:
[07:56] <ArrenLex> cd /etc/X11
[07:56] <ArrenLex> sudo rm xorg.conf
[07:56] <ArrenLex> sudo wget http://arrenlex.diff.be/xorg.conf
[07:57] <ArrenLex> And that should fix ya.
[07:57] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex. I have a copy of the current one in my user folder as .bak
[07:57] <ArrenLex> FriedGeek: okey, as long as you don't lose it.
[07:57] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: :-)
[07:58] <Prez> ArrenLex, for what card is that/
[07:58] <Prez> ?
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Prez: it's for friedgeek. It's his working xorg.conf with a new resolution added in. o_o
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Prez: dunno why you would need it.
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Prez: says	Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900] "
[07:59] <Prez> ArrenLex, ok, no good for me... i cannot get my radeon mobility m6 to do direct render..
[07:59] <ArrenLex> Prez: are you using fglrx?
[07:59] <Prez> just curious what card u guys were talking about
[07:59] <FriedGeek> ArrenLex: Bing. Saved.
[07:59] <ArrenLex> Restart X.
[07:59] <Prez> ArrenLex, nope, that driver doesn't work for this card
[08:00] <FriedGeek> Fingers crossed. ..... CTRL+ALT+BS.... (see you in the funny papers)
[08:00] <ArrenLex> Prez: ...are you sure?
[08:00] <LookTJ> Yo
[08:01] <Prez> ArrenLex, not 100% but from what i've read no go plus i tried it and i get no device found
[08:01] <adEe> when you take a screenshot of a video with VLC, where does the file go?
[08:01] <ArrenLex> adEe: check your desktop, your home directory, and /tmp
[08:02] <adEe> ArrenLex: nope
[08:03] <ciphex_> got a simple question guys.. runnning xubuntu, uname -r reports 2.6.15-26-386
[08:04] <ciphex_> but the 2.6.15-26-386 sources aren't in my repositories
[08:04] <WhiteNoise> OK - so wine works with 'nv' driver, but not 'nvidia' driver -- definitely a nvidia driver and wine issue -- anyone encountered this (invisible fonts with nvidia driver and wine apps?)
[08:04] <ciphex_> apparently
[08:04] <umbro>  http://kecy.roumen.cz/ubuntu_5.11.jpg
[08:04] <ArrenLex> ciphex: linux-source-2.6.15, I think.
[08:04] <ArrenLex> ...I didn't really need to see that.
[08:05] <ArrenLex> http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:bFCOTR6-HNnjeM:http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~fool/Humor/ubuntu-logo.jpg
[08:05] <ArrenLex> But the full-size image is already gone.
[08:05] <ciphex_> all i see in my repos is linux-source-2.6.15-25
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ArrenLex, i saw the same thing kinda, but with clevage
[08:06] <ArrenLex> ciphex: I don't think sources are maintained for every patchset, only for each kernel revision. I doubt you have linux-source-2.6.15-25 in your repos; I don't, and all are enabled.
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Admiral: that's what umbro just pasted above.
[08:07] <ArrenLex> ciphex: I really think all you need is linux-source-2.6.15
[08:08] <mneptok> ciphex_: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> well i've been afk so i just got here
[08:08] <ciphex_> well... i also have linux-source 2.6.15-27.48
[08:08] <mneptok> ciphex_: that will get you the latest released kernel source, and provide updates in the future
[08:09] <MZM> morning, folks. should Pin-Priority: 1001 prevent package upgrade?
[08:09] <theunruled> ok guys... I downloaded this theme and its colour is different from the screenshot online
[08:09] <theunruled> how do i modify a window border'd colour?
[08:09] <ciphex_> well... i am trying to install the OSS sound drivers and need the source for my current kernell
[08:09] <mneptok> speaking of kernels, i'll bet this VMWare instance is using plain-Jane i386 instead of K7
[08:09] <ciphex_> -l
[08:09] <mneptok> ciphex_: just install that meta-package
[08:09] <NewBei> Need Help on Libssl ? Hoz tht is implemented in our app
[08:10] <ciphex_> ok
[08:10] <ciphex_> will do.
[08:10] <ArrenLex> MZM: pin-priority 1001 means whatever pin you specify will ALWAYS be used, no matter what. If you pin it to a version, you'll always stick with that version.
[08:10] <Ayabara> morning. I'm trying to set up an ubuntu image under vmware like I did a fedora core 5 image. is there no yp.conf in ubuntu, or is my install just missing some packages?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> ciphex: why are you trying to install oss?
[08:11] <kraut> moin
[08:11] <ciphex_> because ALSA won't drive my SoundBlaster
[08:11] <ciphex_> apparently
[08:11] <MZM> ArrenLex: and it works in ubuntu?
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Aybara: (YAY ROBERT JORDAN) what does yp.conf do? I've never heard of it.
[08:11] <ArrenLex> MZM: of course.
[08:11] <ciphex_> i have no idea
[08:11] <MZM> ArrenLex: then I need help with writing Pin :)
[08:11] <ciphex_> is there a reason it wouldn't that i should know about?
[08:12] <Ayabara> ArrenLex, then probably it doesn't exist in ubuntu. the line I'm gonna add is 'domain <name> server nis' (and I have no idea what it does...)
[08:12] <ArrenLex> MZM: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[08:12] <ciphex_> i've tried everything i can think of to get ALSA to recognize it but have had 0 luck
[08:12] <ciphex_> OSS is my last option
[08:13] <ArrenLex> ciphex: have you tried running alsaconf?
[08:14] <techno_freak> I did an upgrade to edgy beta, but my emacs has got screwed up, it displays boxes instead of text and the font is disifgured, any help or pointers ?
[08:14] <ciphex_> heh. nope. didn't know it existed.
[08:14] <ArrenLex> techno, they can probably help you better with edgy stuff in #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <techno_freak> ArrenLex: thanx
[08:14] <ArrenLex> ciphex: it doesn't, in ubuntu :P
[08:14] <ZataH> I have a problem with my wireless in edgy, anyone who maybe can help me ?
[08:14] <Flannel> ZataH: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[08:14] <ciphex_> OSS doesn't?
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> techno_freak, maybe #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <mneptok> techno_freak: you could try moving ~/.emacs aside and see what happens
[08:14] <techno_freak> ya, mez leading there
[08:15] <ArrenLex> ciphex: how familiar are you with manipulating debian packages? If I give you a package, can you extract a file from it?
[08:15] <techno_freak> ok
[08:15] <ZataH> Flannel: thx
[08:15] <ciphex_> not very but i can follow instructions to the T
[08:16] <ciphex_> so then.. i guess you're saying alsaconf doesn't exist in ubuntu
[08:17] <MZM> ArrenLex: can you, please, look at my pins? http://pastebin.ca/190656
[08:17] <SurfnKid> guys how do i stop that annoying buzz when i hit an error in ubuntu
[08:17] <SurfnKid> it wakes people up
[08:17] <ArrenLex> ciphex: download this somewhere: http://arrenlex.diff.be/alsaconf
[08:17] <ArrenLex> ciphex: and run it as root.
[08:19] <NoobZaibot> hello anybody familiar with kernel recompiling and menuconfig ? i am using the badger
[08:19] <^Ocean^> how do i get pppoe to use a custom dns sever, and now download one from my isp ?
[08:19] <MZM> NoobZaibot: ask your question (ps. zaibot - from zaebal?)
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Meanwhile, how do you edit the network manager settings?  For instance, see what wireless networks it has on its list, and delete some if necessary?
[08:20] <ArrenLex> MZM: try it? It looks okay at first glance.
[08:20] <ArrenLex> /info FriedGeek
[08:20] <ArrenLex> DAMMIT
[08:20] <ArrenLex> STUPID COMMAND DIE
[08:20] <ciphex_> running
[08:20] <NoobZaibot> MZM : i am trying to recompile my kernel with the timer running at 1000hz
[08:21] <MZM> ArrenLex: yea, for me too looks OK, but still apt-get upgrade wants to upgrade oracle
[08:21] <NoobZaibot> however i am not able to find the option in menuconfig
[08:21] <NoobZaibot> i downloaded the kernel 2.6.12
[08:21] <NoobZaibot> according to this guide : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[08:21] <MZM> why 2.6.12?
[08:22] <NoobZaibot> really dunno x)
[08:22] <ArrenLex> MZM: are you certain that there are no packages you're trying to upgrade which depend on oracle-xe-universal being upgraded?
[08:22] <NoobZaibot> should i use 2.6.13 ?
[08:22] <wickedpuppy> ArrenLex, still helping here ? thats what ... 4 5 hours ?
[08:23] <daryl_> excuse me, when I type "su" it asks for a password.  But the password I gave it when I installed Ubuntu doesn't work.
[08:23] <MZM> ArrenLex: it's oracle, what can depend on it? I mean - no. nothing depends on it
[08:23] <ArrenLex> MZM: I have no idea what oracle is. xD
[08:23] <ZataH> daryl_: it because when you "su" you choose to log in as root
[08:23] <ciphex_> ArrenLex: failed to find the card.
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> daryl_, what do you need root to run ? use sudo instead
[08:23] <ArrenLex> MZM: what if you pinned it to the exact version you have rather than * ?
[08:24] <ArrenLex> ciphex: yeah, I guess ALSA doesn't support it. Sorry.
[08:24] <daryl_> wickedpuppy: aren't I allowed to log in as root?
[08:24] <NoobZaibot> MZM : do u have any ideas ?
[08:24] <ArrenLex> wicked: I have no life, okay? Who asked you?
[08:24] <ZataH> daryl_: you have to set a root password then
[08:24] <ciphex_> strange. it's a SBLive! EMU10K1 device
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> !sudo
[08:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:24] <daryl_> ZataH: hrm where do I do that?
[08:24] <daryl_> oh i see
[08:25] <daryl_> thanks
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> daryl_, kindly read that link
[08:25] <MZM> NoobZaibot: make menuconfig->processor type and features->timer frequency
[08:25] <ZataH> administration > user & groups
[08:25] <ciphex_> so... is there any reason I shouldn't try the OSS drivers?
[08:25] <ArrenLex> ciphex: no, if ALSA won't cut it for you, go ahead.
[08:25] <MZM> ArrenLex: tnx, worked.
[08:26] <ZataH> daryl_: but else sudo yourcommandhere
[08:26] <NoobZaibot> i don't have the timer frequency option in my menuconfig
[08:26] <daryl_> wickedpuppy: ok i'm just gonna use sudo since I oviously dont' understand the differences.
[08:26] <wickedpuppy> daryl_, welcome to ubuntu :P
[08:26] <daryl_> ZataH: excuse me, but how do I run a script?  a .sh file.
[08:26] <daryl_> I thought you typed ./filename.sh
[08:26] <ZataH> ./filename
[08:27] <ArrenLex> daryl: sudo = you have to type sudo every time. su = become root once, do whatever you want until you log out.
[08:27] <wickedpuppy> yah
[08:27] <wickedpuppy> ..
[08:27] <wickedpuppy> why you need root access ?
[08:27] <ArrenLex> daryl: "sh filename"
[08:27] <ciphex_> ok... they are  a piece of work in themselves
[08:27] <NoobZaibot> MZM : i don't have the timer frequency option in my menuconfig
[08:27] <ciphex_> the installer is throwing errors at me left and right... im trying to resolve them all
[08:28] <daryl_> ArrenLex: thanks tons.
[08:28] <daryl_> ArrenLex: sudo sh filename fixed my problem
[08:28] <nysosym> hi everyone! :))))
[08:28] <ArrenLex> daryl: why are you running a script for which you need to be root? o_o
[08:28] <wickedpuppy> daryl_, why do you need sudo to run a shell script ?
[08:28] <wickedpuppy> i don't get it
[08:29] <daryl_> wickedpuppy: was trying to run a script that downloaded allt he packages I needed
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> automatix by any chance ?
[08:29] <ArrenLex> Oh. Okay.
[08:29] <mneptok> i *loathe* those scripts
[08:29] <mneptok> they are a support nightmare
[08:29] <daryl_> wickedpuppy: just a bunch of dependancies that weren't installed w/the clean install
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> yah .. the auto download scripts are not recommended here daryl_ cause they will cause a lot of confusion later
[08:30] <Evilpigster> Finally after Googling around I fixed it. :D
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> you won't know what is installed and if you ask us for help later it will take a lot of work to track where is it that is wrong
[08:30] <daryl_> wickedpuppy: I'd actually installed all of them manually apparently.  I'd just wanted to run the script to make sure I hadn't missed anything.  I hadn't fortunately
[08:31] <mneptok> and i can say "use of those automated installer scripts is officially discouraged "
[08:31] <mneptok> :)
[08:31] <daryl_> rofl
[08:31] <mneptok> no offense to the script authors, who had their hearts in the right place
[08:31] <daryl_> ok i'll avoid such scripts, now to see if I can install my program.
[08:31] <MZM> NoobZaibot: well - it's there since 2.6.0? Your on x86?
[08:31] <vladuz976> how mature is the apt-get upgrade method when upgrading distro?
[08:32] <MZM> vladuz976: apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> vladuz976, how mature ? people been doing it for 4 or 5 times ....
[08:32] <NoobZaibot> MZM: I am downloading this http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.14.tar.bz2 and trying to recompile
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> i did it 3 times already
[08:32] <daryl_> wickedpuppy, mneptok, ArrenLex: thanks guys that took care of me.
[08:32] <vladuz976> what about third party packages?
[08:32] <MZM> NoobZaibot: if You use vanilla, then use recent version. And - are you on x86?
[08:32] <NoobZaibot> MZM: I am using an Intel PIV HT 3.2 Ghz
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> vladuz976, such as ... nvidia drivers ?
[08:32] <surface> third party packages?
[08:33] <daryl_> I'm going to go ahead and close IRC now.  thanks again.
[08:33] <mneptok> vladuz976: if they exist in your currently active repos for the new version of Ubuntu, they will be upgraded
[08:33] <MZM> NoobZaibot: it's x86 or AMD64?
[08:33] <NoobZaibot> x86
[08:33] <^Ocean^> in ##Linux
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> sometimes they do break ... i got my X broke once .. but i fixed it easily ...
[08:33] <vladuz976> wickedpuppy: for instance
[08:33] <NoobZaibot> MZM : Intel P4 = x86
[08:34] <MZM> NoobZaibot: well, there are AMD64 versions of P4 :)
[08:34] <MZM> NoobZaibot: use 2.6.28
[08:34] <MZM> s/28/18/
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> MZM, you mean amd also sells pentium4 ?
[08:34] <NoobZaibot> MZM : do u have direct link for download with wget ?
[08:34] <Jason_D> hello ^^
[08:35] <MZM> wickedpuppy: no, AMD64 is just 64 bit architecture
[08:35] <NoobZaibot> MZM : U just cracked my brain with that AMD64 thing. The Intel 64 Bit arch is EM64
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> yah but you said there are amd64 version of p4 ...
[08:35] <ArrenLex> I'm going to crash. See you guys later! Glad I could help someone.
[08:35] <Jason_D> can anybody help me?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> !ask
[08:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> !ask
[08:35] <Jason_D> ok. :D
[08:36] <NoobZaibot> MZM : I'll use 2.6.18, latest stable kernel version
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> the bot wins
[08:36] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: you'll want the 686 kernel, and not the stock i386
[08:36] <^Ocean^> is the 686 kernel better than the stalk one ?
[08:36] <NoobZaibot> mneptok: I changed it in Processor Type at Menuconfig
[08:37] <ArrenLex> stock? xD
[08:37] <kromel> question, i'm using an AMD Sempron processor, the k7 kernel the proper one for me to use?
[08:37] <ArrenLex> Ocean: if that's your arch, 686 is better than 386, yeah.
[08:37] <mneptok> ^Ocean^: the 686 kernel is certainly better if you have a PII or better
[08:37] <MZM> wickedpuppy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64
[08:37] <Jason_D> !ask i just started with linux and i heard that ubuntu is easiest to start with but i have problems starting it.
[08:37] <^Ocean^> well i got an AMD AthalonXP2400 :S
[08:37] <ArrenLex> kromel: if you have a dual-core CPU, you need an -smp kernel.
[08:37] <wickedpuppy> this conversation reminds me of gentoo forum ...
[08:37] <mneptok> kromel: did you install the i386 or AMD64 version of Ubuntu?
[08:38] <mneptok> ^Ocean^: you'll want the K7 kernel on i386, the K8 on AMD64
[08:38] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : The kernel that i am downloading now http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.18.tar.bz2 is not optimized for i686 ? I thought that selecting the type in menuconfig was enough
[08:38] <kromel> mneptok, i386
[08:38] <mneptok> kromel: yes, K7
[08:38] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: if you're compiling it yourself, it's not an issue
[08:38] <kromel> mneptok, okay, that's what I'm on now.  thanks for the clarification.
[08:39] <mneptok> kromel: using a K7 kernel gets you things like 3DNow! calls and other AMD-specific extension support to improve overall performance
[08:39] <MZM> wickedpuppy: and what? Gentoo was too gar 4u? ;)
[08:39] <MZM> s/gar/hard/
[08:40] <mneptok> gar. arr. me hearty.
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> nope ... the forum was great
[08:40] <ciphex_> can anyone suggest a cheap PCI sound card that will work with ALSA drivers. (running xUbuntu)
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> look at the talks
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> we are talking about architectures
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> you hardly see it outside of gentoo forums
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> since most distros come with a vanilla kernel
[08:41] <mneptok> ciphex_: what part of the world arte you in?
[08:41] <mneptok> -t
[08:41] <ciphex_> US. East coast.
[08:41] <MZM> wickedpuppy: Oh, now I see. I also use Gentoo, so this konversation was OK for me :)
[08:41] <frying_fish> ciphex_: any of the cheaper creative cards.
[08:41] <mneptok> ciphex_: sec
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> anybody still awake?
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> nope
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> :(
[08:42] <frying_fish> some people just woke up
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> I need hewp
[08:42] <MZM> XZEKUTION: still awake? your kidding! I just got up.
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> its afternoon here ...
[08:42] <wickedpuppy> 2:45 pm
[08:42] <mneptok> ciphex_: mind if i paste you a URL to PM?
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> It's 1:45AM
[08:42] <MZM> it's 9 am
[08:42] <XZEKUTION> Central U.S.
[08:43] <ciphex_> mneptok: please do
[08:43] <MDCore> 08:42am :D
[08:43] <XZEKUTION> you guys ubuntu experts?
[08:43] <MDCore> Ah.. the lovely freenode tradition of "What time is it where you are?!!? "
[08:43] <MZM> ex-prets??
[08:43] <wickedpuppy> !ask
[08:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:43] <XZEKUTION> my Ubuntu clock and my WinXP clock keep messing each other up and I can't figure out what the deal is
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> i got a solution ... format winxp ... solved!
[08:44] <MZM> XP uses local time for clock, Ubuntu - UTM
[08:44] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: tell the XP clock that it's timezone is UTC
[08:44] <mneptok> *its
[08:44] <XZEKUTION> If I reboot from WinXP back to WinXP it's fine, but if I boot from WinXP and reboot to Ubuntu, the clock will be off on Ubuntu, and then it will be off when i go back to WinXP too
[08:44] <GreenCult> hi all
[08:44] <XZEKUTION> UTC ?
[08:44] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Ubuntu sets the hardware clock to UTC and converts from there to your local time. XP sets the hardware clock to your local time.
[08:44] <XZEKUTION> what is UTC
[08:45] <mneptok> Universal Time Coordinated
[08:45] <mneptok> which right now is GMT-1
[08:45] <XZEKUTION> will it still be the time I am used to or will it be the 24hour clock that I'm unaccustomed to
[08:45] <XZEKUTION> I like the 12hr clocks
[08:45] <frying_fish> ahh yes, windows needs the hardware clock to be set to localtime (stupid thing) so you will need to go to here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201690&highlight=clock+times+changing+xp
[08:45] <mneptok> the display of the time (12 vs 24 hours) will not be affected
[08:45] <frying_fish> it is fairly simple to sort, right click on the clock, then untick the UTC option
[08:45] <XZEKUTION> I don't need to do anything to Ubuntu, just WinXP ?
[08:46] <mneptok> correct
[08:46] <frying_fish> XZEKUTION: no, you need to do this in ubuntu
[08:46] <frying_fish> leave win xp alone, just whilst in ubuntu next right click the clock, then untick UTC in preferences
[08:46] <XZEKUTION> oooooh
[08:46] <XZEKUTION> I thought it was a WinXP problem
[08:47] <frying_fish> nope, it is a win xp problem, but the fix is in linux.
[08:47] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: you can also use a registry hack, but that's somewhat uglier
[08:47] <XZEKUTION> is it possible to listen to my music that I have on WinXP once I am in Ubuntu
[08:48] <|thunder> XZEKUTION; look in /media/hda1
[08:48] <frying_fish> XZEKUTION: yes,
[08:49] <frying_fish> |thunder: that may be incorrect for his partitioning or devices
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. i need to update my firefox. can u plesae tell how
[08:49] <frying_fish> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: are you using the default one that came with ubuntu?
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hmm. yup!
[08:49] <|thunder> itll get him looking in the right direction
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i tried using the update manger no luck
[08:49] <frying_fish> |thunder: no, it really won't
[08:50] <frying_fish> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: then it is most likely at the most recent version
[08:50] <mneptok> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: why do you need a Firefox newer than what is in the repositories?
[08:50] <frying_fish> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: what does the about bit tell you?
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok its old
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> whats the latest version
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> mine is 1.5
[08:50] <XZEKUTION> when I am in Ubuntu, how do I get desktop icons?
[08:50] <mneptok> latest is 1.5.0.7
[08:50] <XZEKUTION> I've seen screenshots of people who have really cool desktops
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> mine is 1.5.0.5
[08:50] <frying_fish> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: you are most likely running 1.5.0.7
[08:50] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: icons for what?
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, you mean the button thats close all the windows ?
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> LOL. how can i update my software? the update link in firefox is deactivated
[08:51] <XZEKUTION> music, browser, documents, programs etc
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> if it is then its at bottom left edge
[08:51] <Flannel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: you update it through update-manager, all of the fixes from 1.5.0.7 are included in the current version from ubuntu
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok guys thanks a lot.
[08:51] <mneptok> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: uhhhh ... you use the Update Manager app in Ubuntu to update software. not update utilities inside the apps themselves.
[08:52] <XZEKUTION> updating and installing stuff is the hardest part about ubuntu
[08:52] <XZEKUTION> and downloading too
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, SEEN SYNAPTIC ?
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> opps
[08:53] <XZEKUTION> yes
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> pardon my caps
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> thats hard ?
[08:53] <XZEKUTION> there is so much stuff on those repositories.. how do you know what you want.. whats good and what is crap
[08:53] <jenda> How can I make Ubuntu blank the screen when the lappy lid is closed, but not lock it?
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> clearly you never managed windows before ...
[08:54] <jenda> (since it refuses to accept my password after locking)
[08:54] <XZEKUTION> wickedpuppy: what?
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, do you know whats the best burning software for windows ?
[08:54] <XZEKUTION> nero
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> how did you know ?
[08:55] <abhinay> I want to run servlet programs of java in Ubuntu, and i want to install tomcat server help me.
[08:55] <XZEKUTION> bc i've heard a lot about it, and I've used it before
[08:55] <jenda> I don't see how knowing it for Windows is any easier than knowing it for Ubuntu, wickedpuppy...
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> i can think of more than 20 other burning softwares
[08:55] <Flannel> XZEKUTION: until you get familiar with programs, you don't really (know what's good/not), you have to do some research, or trust what's in main (which is fully supported by ubuntu, meaning it's somewhat guarenteed quality), you can search synaptic, or packages.ubuntu.com, etc.
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> download.com has tons
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, precisely ...
[08:55] <CromagDK> cd burner xp pro
[08:55] <jenda> lol
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, slowly you will know which is good and which is crap
[08:55] <wickedpuppy> jenda, now you get my message ?
[08:55] <XZEKUTION> give me suggestions
[08:56] <jenda> wickedpuppy: yep, sorry, was meant for XZEKUTION
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> for ?
[08:56] <XZEKUTION> when I'm on WinXP I use Yahoo Jukebox to listen to the radio.. what options does Ubuntu have
[08:56] <CromagDK> i liked Cd burner XP pr
[08:56] <CromagDK> with an o
[08:56] <jenda> XZEKUTION: AmaroK, I recomend.
[08:56] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:56] <XZEKUTION> Ubuntu
[08:56] <Yasuo> xmms
[08:56] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Rhythmbox or Banshee
[08:56] <Yasuo> mplayer :P
[08:56] <XZEKUTION> theres 3
[08:56] <XZEKUTION> which of those 3 is the best
[08:57] <jenda> Yasuo: please...
[08:57] <XZEKUTION> I want one that will work the first time, and have good music
[08:57] <XZEKUTION> nothing crappy
[08:57] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Amarok is nice, but will require you to download and install all the KDE libraries. kinda overkill just for a music player.
[08:57] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION, there is no BEST, asking for best player only makes ppl flaming around
[08:57] <jenda> XZEKUTION: Up to personal preference. There are many more for Windows, and Yahoo Jukebox is hardly the best.
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, you want OSX ...
[08:57] <XZEKUTION> I just want to listen to the radio, i dont want anything crazy
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> linux doesnt work that way
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> try and choose the one you want ...
[08:58] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: Rhythmbox is already installed. try it.
[08:58] <XZEKUTION> alright
[08:58] <Yasuo> xmms is fine for hearing musikc, if you want more playlist and music managing use amarok or so
[08:58] <XZEKUTION> i dont want playlists of my own music i want radio
[08:58] <XZEKUTION> all my MP3s got erased, and i dont feel like downloading them all again
[08:58] <XZEKUTION> i had like 4,000
[08:58] <Yasuo> lol baka
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> thats .. not a lot really if you ask me
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> i got 7 or so gig ..
[08:59] <XZEKUTION> it will suck even more if you lose them all
[08:59] <m4rk> how come photoshop doesn't work with wine????
[08:59] <Yasuo> /me mas 1/0
[08:59] <mneptok> wickedpuppy: 30K mp3s is ~125GB
[08:59] <Yasuo> m4rk, its a windows program
[08:59] <wickedpuppy> Yasuo, wine runs windows programs
[08:59] <Yasuo> crossoveroffice is specialized for photoshop
[09:00] <Yasuo> wickedpuppy, oh, rly?
[09:00] <frying_fish> mneptok: why can't you use xmms? 30'000, does that go past a file limit? as it certainly copes with my 15k fine
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> !wine
[09:00] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:00] <XZEKUTION> is Wine preinstalled with Ubuntu or do i have to try and figure out how to get it on my computer
[09:00] <frying_fish> XZEKUTION: apt-get install wine
[09:00] <mneptok> frying_fish: browsing 30K mp3s by filename is a *drag*
[09:00] <wickedpuppy> XZEKUTION, as usual sudo apt-get install wine
[09:00] <XZEKUTION> last time i installed wine it went crazy on me
[09:00] <frying_fish> you say "browsing" you can always use the jump feature
[09:00] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION is Wine preinstalled with Ubuntu or do i have to try and figure out how to get it on my computer <<< it really doesnt matter does it?
[09:00] <XZEKUTION> made my screen flash to black over and over again
[09:01] <mneptok> frying_fish: trust me, managing what music you want to hear when you have 30,000 songs to choose from is a lot easier with Rhythmbox, Banshee, or some other "music library" meme app
[09:01] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION, try before asking
[09:01] <XZEKUTION> I dont know all of the console commands for linux
[09:01] <XZEKUTION> i dont know apt etc
[09:02] <wickedpuppy> Yasuo, relax .. its ok to ask :P
[09:02] <mneptok> XZEKUTION: few people do.
[09:02] <Yasuo> xzakox, you can use the gui
[09:02] <frying_fish> ahh, well I am currently using audacious, which is starting to think about a music library, but I have never really found the need.
[09:02] <MZM> mneptok: I think - no one knows ALL of them
[09:02] <Yasuo> aptutude iirc?
[09:02] <tristan_> hi, i have question about openoffice
[09:02] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION,  apt-cache search program
[09:02] <XZEKUTION> I'm boot to ubuntu, be right back
[09:02] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION,  then: apt-get install exactprogramname
[09:02] <XZEKUTION> thanks for your hel
[09:02] <frying_fish> XZEKUTION: open the "package manager" which is synaptic in ubuntu and adept (I think) in kubuntu
[09:03] <XZEKUTION> help*
[09:03] <Yasuo> why reboot?
[09:03] <tristan_> I am using openoffice impress(presentation). how can i add an element(for example a text control) that will apply to all new slides
[09:03] <XZEKUTION> i cant get there from here
[09:04] <XZEKUTION> I'm on WinXP right now
[09:04] <Yasuo> XZEKUTION, then install xchat and come back then at least
[09:04] <tristan_> i am trying to create an open office template, do have any references?
[09:04] <XZEKUTION> I have xchat on ubuntu
[09:04] <XZEKUTION> i'll brb
[09:04] <Yasuo> ;)
[09:06] <faisal_d> morning... where is the smbusers file located in dapper? i can't find it in /etc/samba/smbusers
[09:07] <abhinay> how to start tomcat server ?
[09:08] <Adross> which app should I use to resize an ogg theora video?
[09:08] <wickedpuppy> abhinay, ah can ask in #java or #tomcat ?
[09:09] <Skitzo1989> is there a mpeg codec for "movie player"?
[09:09] <Adross> Skitzo1989:
[09:09] <Adross> yeh, give me a second
[09:09] <Skitzo1989> ok
[09:09] <Flannel> abhinay: the 'tomcat5' package
[09:09] <Adross> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29%7C%28formats%29
[09:12] <mof> Ok so I have a 117 gig partition for /home I'm using 6.4 gig with 60.7 gig free- now i could be wrong but doesn't that leave 110 gig? where is the other ~40 gig?
[09:13] <xicas> valdeleas
[09:14] <faisal_d> mof, check your disks and partitions for the missing space
[09:15] <mof> im not sure what you mean?
[09:15] <LookTJ> mof: gparted
[09:16] <wickedpuppy> df -h
[09:16] <LookTJ> on livecd
[09:16] <faisal_d> for visual gui try to go to system -> administration -> disks.. it'll give you all infromation you need
[09:16] <mof> the /home partition shows 117 but lists it's free space as the ~60 gig.
[09:17] <faisal_d> mof, your home is 117 G, you are 60 free... where is the problem??
[09:18] <mof> with it's 'contents' using ~6.4 gig
[09:18] <LookTJ> mof: resize the partition, take 1 MB away
[09:18] <faisal_d> ah... i see
[09:18] <ciphex_> how does the kernel-source package differ from the linux-source package?
[09:18] <LookTJ> then resize and put the 1 MB back
[09:18] <theguy> can some one help me...i cant seem to rum video streams from websites
[09:19] <LookTJ> it happened to my 250 GB once before
[09:19] <zappe> why doesn't work with "named.* @computer" in syslog for logging?
[09:19] <LookTJ> i got one problem here
[09:20] <mof> LookTJ thanks but that seems like a good way to loose some data, is there a documented bug with ext3?
[09:20] <LookTJ> 1 MB
[09:20] <LookTJ> ?
[09:20] <LookTJ> that's won't do anything to lose data
[09:21] <Saba> goodmorning
[09:21] <anilomkar> how to install JSDK in ubuntu??
[09:21] <mof> i might just back some things up first anyway. ;P
[09:21] <LookTJ> good evening saba
[09:22] <Saba> it's 9.30 am here LookTJ
[09:22] <faisal_d> anilomaker, download it, chmod a+x, then run it
[09:22] <LookTJ> 12:22 AM here
[09:22] <LookTJ> :P
[09:22] <Alex232> Hello!
[09:22] <LookTJ> Hi
[09:22] <Saba> hello Alex232
[09:22] <ciphex_> can anyone tell me the differences between the kernel-source and linux-source packages?
[09:23] <Alex232> Do anybody use eagle-usb?
[09:23] <LookTJ> hey anilomkar i help with that
[09:23] <Alex232> I mean ADSL driver
[09:24] <faisal_d> i can't find my /etc/samba/smbusers file... can anybody tell me where it's located?
[09:24] <mneptok> faisal_d: "locate smbusers"
[09:24] <Alex232> Eagle-usb is a driver for ADSL modems like Sagem and others. I can't install this one
[09:25] <faisal_d> mneptok, it doesn't return anything!!
[09:25] <LookTJ> faisal_d I have my jsdk in a .deb package
[09:25] <LookTJ> :)
[09:25] <mneptok> faisal_d: "sudo updatedb && locate smbusers"
[09:26] <Xzekution> anybody here
[09:26] <faisal_d> lookTj, really? whre did you get it form? java.sun.com only have binary or rpm
[09:26] <Xzekution> I think I messed something up
[09:26] <LookTJ> I made it
[09:27] <Alex232> if to use official instructions, after configure command eagle-usb reports that it can't find gcc, cc and something else. Is there gcc in Ubuntu Dapper?
[09:27] <faisal_d> xzekution, don't ask to ask a question.. just ask
[09:27] <LookTJ> faisal_d i made it myself
[09:27] <Xzekution> I was using WinXP a minute ago when I was in here.. and I booted to Ubuntu.. and it wouldn't work
[09:27] <Xzekution> I got some kind of graphics X error
[09:27] <Xzekution> and I'm using the LiveCD right now
[09:27] <faisal_d> lookTj, sweeeeet :)
[09:28] <anilomkar> LookTJ, please help me
[09:28] <anilomkar> LookTJ, what to do?
[09:28] <Xzekution> How do I uninstall the beta version of Ubuntu and go back to Dapper
[09:28] <LookTJ> i need to update it though
[09:28] <mneptok> faisal_d: Sun's JRE, JDK, and JDSK are in the apt repos
[09:28] <Xzekution> or do I have to reinstall Ubuntu from the LiveCD
[09:28] <Alex232> So, is there gcc in Ubuntu???
[09:28] <mneptok> Alex232: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[09:29] <jack_> where to talk about edgy?
[09:29] <Xzekution> mneptok :(
[09:29] <mneptok> jack_: #ubuntu+1
[09:29] <Alex232> mneptok: what will this do?
[09:29] <LookTJ> !edgy
[09:29] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:29] <LookTJ> ;)
[09:29] <Alex232> mneptok: install gcc?
[09:29] <mneptok> Alex232: install gcc and other programs neede to build anything
[09:30] <mneptok> *needed
[09:30] <Alex232> mneptok: ok! i'll try it now, thanks
[09:31] <xzk> mneptok, can you help me
[09:31] <^Ocean^> anyone get vmware working on Edgy ?
[09:32] <fuffalo> i used apt get to install some software, how do i uninstall it if it's not in my add/remove list?
[09:32] <faisal_d> xzk don't ask to ask, just ask
[09:32] <xzk> faisal_d: I already did :(
[09:32] <mneptok> xzk: check ~/.xsession-errors
[09:33] <xzk> mneptotk: can I do that from the LiveCD ?
[09:33] <xzk> thats what I'm using now
[09:33] <mneptok> xzk: mount the Ubuntu partition on the hard drive and loook at it
[09:33] <LookTJ> making sun-j2sk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb atm
[09:33] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : do u know if the xfs support is normally needed ?
[09:34] <xzk> mneptok: with GParted?
[09:35] <xzk> mneptok: using GParted?
[09:35] <Skitzo1981> which version of java do i need to download for Ubuntu?
[09:36] <Lob1> hi
[09:36] <Madpilot> !java
[09:36] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:36] <Lob1> does anyone have the .deb for compiz-manager plz ?
[09:36] <xzk> Lob1: are you a Pro at using Ubuntu
[09:36] <Lob1> xzk > no sorry :/
[09:36] <^Ocean^> Lobl: beryl
[09:37] <Madpilot> Skitzo1981, check ubotu above ^^^
[09:37] <LookTJ> anyone want sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb?
[09:37] <xzk> Lob1: bummer
[09:38] <LookTJ> java from ubuntu isn't uptodate
[09:38] <LookTJ> no offense
[09:38] <xzk> how do I uninstall Edgy and go back to Dapper
[09:38] <xzk> Edgy won't boot for me
[09:38] <^Ocean^> xzk: ffr :P
[09:38] <^Ocean^> ffr rather
[09:38] <xzk> ffr?
[09:38] <^Ocean^> fdisk format recover :)
[09:38] <LookTJ> what's ffr?
[09:38] <LookTJ> oh
[09:38] <Skitzo1981> Ubunto doesnt use RPM's does it?
[09:38] <xzk> how do i do that ocean
[09:38] <LookTJ> nope
[09:39] <^Ocean^> lol
[09:39] <^Ocean^> umm
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> Skitzo1981, no .deb
[09:39] <LookTJ> you want sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update09_i386.deb
[09:39] <LookTJ> ?
[09:39] <^Ocean^> re-install drapper thats how :)
[09:39] <faisal_d> skitzo you can use alient to install RPMs, but it's experimental
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> but you can change a .rpm to deb by using alien, but you have to install it firsh
[09:39] <xzk> ocean: am i better off reinstalling from the LiveCD
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> it's always worked for me
[09:39] <^Ocean^> pritty much so yeah...
[09:39] <xzk> alright cool
[09:39] <xzk> thats not too bad
[09:39] <^Ocean^> altho u might just wanna fix edgy
[09:40] <xzk> i was hoping that.. bc i downloaded too much crap on my linux with the synaptic.. it was messy
[09:40] <xzk> Ocean: how do i fix edgy lol
[09:40] <LookTJ> !edgy
[09:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:40] <^Ocean^> well would have to figure out whats wrong with it :)
[09:40] <xzk> it looks like a scary error
[09:40] <faisal_d> !schedule
[09:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:40] <xzk> i think i better reinstall dapper
[09:41] <xzk> Wish me luck with the reinstall
[09:41] <openedu> I am having trouble removing a package with apt-get
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> openedu, what package?
[09:42] <openedu> i receive the following error: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:42] <^Ocean^> ur prolyl running another instance of apt
[09:42] <openedu> Admiral_Chicago, it is libdb4.4, although the error appears to be a locking error
[09:42] <^Ocean^> or a package manager
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> openedu, or something else may be sudo
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> are you using the package? thought it might be in /lock
[09:43] <openedu> hmm, is there a way to query such things?
[09:44] <LookTJ> openedu, close either the terminal or package manager
[09:44] <pcdeal> Help I have trouble with delivering to Maildir with fetchmail and procmail in courier-imap
[09:45] <faisal_d> when i run the testparm command i get the following: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: n. How can i find out which line that is?
[09:45] <openedu> ^Ocean^, I may have a package manager running, but I don't know how to locate it.  I am running a fairly standard install of ubuntu, so most things are defaults
[09:45] <^Ocean^> well u need to turn it off to use apt
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> openedu, in the terminal type pstree
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> and if you see something branching of sudo or su, it is using root privilages
[09:47] <openedu> Admiral_Chicago, I do not see anything running under sudo.  I also do not see any evidence of a running package manager (like the update notifier?), but i'm not sure what to look for
[09:48] <mneptok> openedu: ps aux | grep db
[09:48] <mneptok> openedu: what does that tell  you?
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> bed time
[09:50] <openedu> mneptok, that gives me dbus-daemon and similar, nothing with libdb
[09:50] <mneptok> openedu: running a *SQL instance?
[09:51] <openedu> mneptok, I just stopped my 'mysql' instance.  i'll past the pstree for you
[09:51] <asmo674hurt> how i can edit particions of HDD after OS instalation??
[09:52] <^Ocean^> asmo674hurt, qtpartedit
[09:52] <mneptok> openedu: it's probably MySQL that's causing the lockfiles on the libdb stuff.
[09:52] <openedu> mneptok, http://paste.lisp.org/display/27321
[09:53] <asmo674hurt> ^Ocean^, ?
[09:53] <oroneta> hola, buenos dias a todos
[09:53] <^Ocean^> QTPart i think it might be called
[09:53] <^Ocean^> or qtpard edit
[09:54] <^Ocean^> search google for it .
[09:54] <daryl_> excuse me, I just shared a folder on my computer using smb.  I'm not sure why, but on my other linux computer I cna't see it.  When I go to my other linux computer I now see a "ubuntu" computer, but when I double click on it, nothing is shared.  Any suggestions?
[09:54] <openedu> mneptok, i don't see how exactly since I stopped mysql.  mysql is also not configured to use berkeley db.
[09:55] <openedu> i amended my paste to include the apt error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/27321#1
[09:55] <l-form> Hello everybody I just wonder isn't this a violation of the GPL when somebody sells ubuntu distros?
[09:55] <faisal_d> I-form, no... it's completely legal
[09:55] <oroneta> sorry, any channel to speak spanish about ubuntu??
[09:55] <faisal_d> !spanish
[09:55] <mof> Ok i umounted /home and now x-server spits errors and no gtk programs will start, any sugestions?
[09:55] <Rookie> !es
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:56] <daryl_> !smb
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <oroneta> thank
[09:56] <faisal_d> oroneta, de nada ;)
[09:56] <oroneta> gracias ;-)
[09:56] <matti> Morning.
[09:56] <Rookie> l-form - no, you can sell it , if you sell something with it, i.e support
[09:57] <Rookie> Suse selling too, they sell the books and manuals
[09:57] <daryl_> Excuse me, did anyone know the answer to my question?  : )  dont' wanna nag anyone.
[09:57] <oroneta> bye!
[09:57] <Rookie> !samba
[09:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:57] <l-form> Rookie: what they sell is a ubuntu installation cd only
[09:58] <mneptok> openedu: have you tried rebooting into the safe runlevel and uninstalling?
[09:58] <matti> I need to ask - it is possible, that perlinked system may not work well after hibernating 'em? I mean, sometimes when I wake my desktop from hibernation applications are not working or I cannot start any software. No errors in dmesg or logs. It is very odd.
[09:58] <Rookie> thats wrong, they need to sell something with it, not only the distro ... maybe they charge for the cd ... ?
[09:58] <openedu> openedu, no.  i just deleted the lock file, though
[09:58] <faisal_d> I-form, AFAIK, as long as you say it's Ubuntu, you can sell it... users always have the freedom to get it for free if they want to
[09:59] <faisal_d> rookie, yes, probably they charge for CD, and saving you time to download.. i suppose
[09:59] <SurfnKid> whats a good network management software package
[10:00] <l-form> rookie: probably, they charge 1 USD for that, so that must be the story, but still, those cds look like they'd been shipped free-of-charge by canonical to them
[10:00] <mneptok> l-form: do you have a URL for these people?
[10:01] <openedu> i am also having a lot of trouble getting a functioning lisp environment on ubuntu.  i cannot figure out how to install CMUCL 19c, for which there is no binary package despite a buggy 19a--the included version
[10:01] <daryl_> Hey Rookie, do I have to go through allt hat Samba stuff to be able to transfer files on a linux box?
[10:01] <zzarr> hello
[10:02] <Rookie> samba is easy, just install it and config smb.conf and set a user with smbpasswd
[10:02] <xzk> hey guys, is there any software for Ubuntu or Linux for C++ ? like MSVC++
[10:02] <l-form> so if canonical sends you free installation cds, wouldn't that be a violation to sell them to anybody?
[10:02] <Steil> Where can i blacklist modules from loading?
[10:02] <faisal_d> daryl_ if you don't want to mess with config files yourself, try isntalling webmin
[10:02] <Rookie> and dont forget to restart it after your done
[10:02] <xzk> so i can do my computer science homework
[10:03] <mneptok> xzk: do you want syntax highlighting in a text editor, or a full-fledged IDE>
[10:03] <Rookie> all configs in linux is to be found in /etc
[10:03] <mneptok> ?
[10:03] <zzarr> I have a gigant problem... X it won't start
[10:03] <zzarr> it puts my monitor in sleep mode
[10:03] <Saba> zzarr, what does it say in the log file
[10:03] <xzk> mneptok: whats the difference? I don't really know what I want.. I just want something that will work
[10:03] <xzk> in my class we use MSVC++
[10:03] <zzarr> what log file?
[10:04] <Saba> /var/log/xorg.log or something like that
[10:04] <mneptok> xzk: a text editor with syntax highlighting is much, MUCH easier to get set up and use.
[10:04] <Saba> wait a minute
[10:04] <zzarr> looking it up now
[10:04] <l-form> people, who can clarify the reselling issue and possible related violations
[10:04] <xzk> mneptok: do you have suggestions for a text editor and IDE ?
[10:05] <faisal_d> xzk, eclipse with the c++ plugin is an amazing IDE
[10:05] <mneptok> xzk: well, start with the built-in text editor
[10:05] <Saba> or gdm log or kdm log or something zzarr
[10:05] <mneptok> xzk: it does C++ syntax highlighting
[10:05] <Rookie> about gpl - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt
[10:05] <Rookie> !gpl
[10:05] <ubotu> gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[10:05] <xzk> I'm not sure if I would know how to use a text editor... in my class we are learning to use MSVC++  ... i think it is IDE
[10:06] <matti> k, I assume, that nobody have similar problems... well then.
[10:06] <matti> ;] 
[10:07] <xzk> faisal_d: where can i find eclipse and the C++ plugin
[10:07] <mof> mneptok: you don't get a gui designer with eclipse do you? just asking because I'm starting out with c# and mono.
[10:07] <mneptok> xzk: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html
[10:07] <faisal_d> they should be in the repos
[10:07] <mneptok> mof: no idea. never used eclipse.
[10:07] <mof> right cheers
[10:07] <xzk> mof you c++ ?
[10:07] <l-form> thanx gonna study it
[10:08] <mof> no, c# is a bit different.
[10:09] <zzarr> is there no driver for ATI Radeon X800 XT PE?
[10:09] <mneptok> mof: http://www.monodevelop.com/Main_Page
[10:09] <zzarr> only ATI Radeon X800 XT?
[10:10] <mof> xzk: you could try #C++ irc channel, really I probably know less than anyother ;P
[10:10] <xzk> thanks mof
[10:11] <zzarr> well PE only tells one it's running att a higher rate
[10:11] <zzarr> (Hz)
[10:11] <tuskernini> ARE there any Engineers using ubuntu here?
[10:12] <dario314> I'm an engineer but it has nothing to do with my using Ubuntu right now
[10:12] <tuskernini> dario314, do you know of a nice program doing signal analysis in ubuntu?
[10:12] <dario314> Can someone give me a gnutella host? Any host? This thing doesn't seem to come with a host list...
[10:13] <dario314> I've been using Ubuntu for about 24 hours, so...no :)
[10:13] <tuskernini> dario314, normal modulation and transforms
[10:13] <tuskernini> hehe
[10:13] <tuskernini> ok
[10:13] <mneptok> dario314: "this thing?"
[10:13] <l-form> after reading gpl as I grasp it, anyone can get cds from canonoical for free and then sell em to some poor bastard and make money outta nothin? is this normal?
[10:13] <dario314> mutella. I have it. It runs... doesn't connect to anything.
[10:14] <mneptok> l-form: depends on how they do it
[10:14] <anilomkar> how to install tomcat server in Ubuntu please help me???
[10:14] <zzarr> the log says "(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" this can't be good
[10:14] <faisal_d> tuskernini: i am no engineer.. but these might help: http://www.opensound.com/ossapps.html
[10:14] <mneptok> l-form: Ubuntu is a trademarked name. they cannot use that name when selling CDs.
[10:15] <tuskernini> faisal_d, thank you will try it
[10:15] <dario314> I think if I connect to one gnutella host, I'll get a list of other hosts... but I don't have a single one to try.
[10:15] <mneptok> dario314: you shouldn't need an initial address.
[10:16] <anilomkar> i want tomcat server in my Ubuntu what to do?
[10:17] <dario314> How not? mutella loads, but it doesn't connect to any hosts, it has no cached hosts... nothing
[10:17] <erUSUL> !info tomcat5
[10:17] <ubotu> tomcat5: Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.30-9 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 336 kB
[10:17] <mneptok> dario314: what flavor of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:17] <dario314> Xubuntu dapper
[10:17] <mneptok> dario314: try gtk-gnutella
[10:18] <l-form> mnepok: there's this site that says hey go ahead and buy newest ubuntu dapper drake form us (xubuntu and kubuntu too) and i seriuously believe that those cds they sell come from free canonical ltd shipment
[10:19] <l-form> mneptok sorry for misspelling your nick
[10:20] <mneptok> l-form: got a URL?
[10:20] <NoobZaibot> can i update from the badger to the dapper via sshd ?
[10:20] <mneptok> l-form: it is 100% OK to resell CDs. it is 100% NOT ok to use our corporate trademarks to do so without permission.
[10:20] <NoobZaibot> or its necessary to be in front of the pc ?
[10:21] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:21] <l-form> mneptok: yeah its ukrainian thou, but i guess u'll be able to understand the page http://opensource.com.ua/products.php?info=p1293_Xubuntu-6-06-Dapper-desktop--1CD-.html
[10:21] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : Do you know how could i recompile the kernel after the update to modify the timer frequency ?
[10:22] <mneptok> l-form: spassibo
[10:22] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: timer frequency? as in the clock?
[10:22] <l-form> mneptok: bud laska
[10:23] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : Yes, it comes by default in 250 Hz, i wanna increase it to 1000 hz
[10:23] <joobie> Hi Guys.. Just curious if anyone here has completed their CISSP?
[10:24] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: for timekeeping purposes?
[10:24] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : No, i need it for tweaking a game server
[10:25] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: then you'll need kernel source and the proper compile time flags
[10:25] <dario314> mneptok, gtk-gnutella works better. Nicer interface too. Thanks!
[10:25] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: and i don't know those off the top of my head. but i'm sure it's documented.
[10:26] <mneptok> dario314: np. glad you're happy. :)
[10:27] <l-form> mneptok: so what do u think bout that? shall it be submitted as a violation?
[10:27] <mneptok> l-form: talking to management now. thanks.
[10:27] <NoobZaibot> mneptok : yes but i am trying to recompile the kernel now and i am getting errors as hell
[10:27] <NoobZaibot> my first kernel recompilation :)
[10:28] <mneptok> NoobZaibot: kernel compilation is not something easily explained in the context of IRC. but there are a lot of really good tutorials. before you dive in, do some reading about "water," and "bathing suits." ;)
[10:29] <NoobZaibot> mneptok: i know. I am trying to recompile it just for that Hz rate. All the tutorials say that it would be easy ! X)
[10:30] <jwhitlark> The problem is that once someone is good enough to write a tutorial, it is easy for them!
[10:31] <NoobZaibot> true.
[10:31] <daurn|afk> whats an app for burning audio cds that supports .wma?
[10:32] <daurn|afk> K3b doesn't
[10:33] <l-form> gnome baker?
[10:33] <hastesaver> hello. The root partition is full, what can I do?
[10:33] <NoobZaibot> suicide.
[10:33] <jpjacobs> daurn|afk, i'd convert the wma's to something else with like mencoder , or transcode
[10:34] <linopil> check this survey out  ! http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html
[10:34] <daurn|afk> i don't want them to loose any more quality
[10:34] <hastesaver> NoobZaibot, what else can I do? I'd like to know all my options first
[10:35] <linopil> hastesaver GParted bootable CD  can help you resize partition
[10:35] <linopil> also boot fron install ubuntu CD
[10:36] <linopil> and try to clean  /tmp
[10:36] <linopil> hastesaver: ?
[10:36] <hastesaver> linopil, actually, my system is still working fine... there are about 20 MB free, so I was trying to see what I should delete
[10:36] <linopil> 20 mb is bad you  understand hastesaver
[10:36] <hastesaver> linopil, yes, I know it's very little... that's why I want to free up more space
[10:37] <linopil> go root
[10:37] <daurn|afk> hastesaver: old .debs?
[10:37] <linopil> hastesaver:  df -h
[10:38] <daurn|afk> hastesaver: empty the trash?
[10:38] <hastesaver> linopil, yes, /var/cache is 427 MB..
[10:38] <timo> what is this?
[10:38] <linopil> good place to start aint it?
[10:38] <daurn|afk> timo: an irc channel
[10:38] <hastesaver> A tiny 4.7 GB hardisk
[10:38] <daurn|afk> whats an app for burning audio cds that supports .wma?
[10:38] <linopil> all system on 4.7 GB ?
[10:39] <hastesaver> Great. Available "530M". Should be enough for now, I guess? :-)
[10:39] <hastesaver> linopil, oh, sorry. The root partition is 4.7 G
[10:39] <linopil> good luck hastesaver
[10:39] <linopil> http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html
[10:40] <daurn|afk> anyone?
[10:40] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, I think converting is your best bet
[10:40] <_Er1K_> daurn|afk:  use mplay or vlc to transcode them first
[10:41] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, I mean, even the audio CD cannot have .wma files, it has to be a special cdaudio format... you know that, right?
[10:41] <_Er1K_> unless he is puting it in a player with native wma support, but we will leave that for a different discussion
[10:42] <hastesaver> _Er1K_, right, such players are better left unmentioned :-)
[10:42] <mneptok> such players are the spawn of the devil :P
[10:42] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, does your system burn .wav files, BTW? Someone was complaining the other day that gnome-baker and serpentine don't work with .wav files...
[10:43] <daurn|afk> uh
[10:43] <daurn|afk> no idea
[10:43] <LookTJ> yo
[10:43] <faisal_d> wb lookTj
[10:43] <LookTJ> who was i talking to in a pm?
[10:43] <daurn|afk> i haven't burned a cd NOT from image in a year or more
[10:44] <daurn|afk> !icecast
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, anyway, mplayer <filename> -ao pcm will create a .wav file out of it. You can then (try to) easily burn it
[10:44] <_Er1K_> I don't disagree, but my car head can play them directory, although it never has.  I have never, and don't want to ever feed it WMA content, but transcoding seems like trading bad for worse.
[10:46] <hastesaver> _Er1K_, but daurn|afk wants an audio CD, not a "CD for wma players". Right?
[10:47] <daurn|afk> correct
[10:47] <_Er1K_> it was never clear what his target capabilities where :)
[10:47] <_Er1K_> ok, then, now we know
[10:47] <daurn|afk> i have a few i want to burn
[10:47] <daurn|afk> i don't want to have to do it file by file
[10:48] <_Er1K_> I think vlc will do entire directories, which makes life a little easlier
[10:48] <_Er1K_> easir
[10:48] <_Er1K_> easier
[10:48] <daurn|afk> vlc burns?
[10:48] <Squee> Does anyone know how to get a patched madwifi driver so you can do packet injections?
[10:48] <_Er1K_> burn? no, transcode?  yes
[10:48] <_Er1K_> but it is 2 am, I am half asleep, wife wants me elsewhere.  Night, friendly people
[10:49] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, what version of k3b, BTW?
[10:50] <daurn|afk> latest in synaptic
[10:50] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, someone claims "K3b version 0.12 supports wma" somewhere...
[10:50] <l-form> mneptok: any result so far? sorry for bein such a pain in the ass but that really bothers me, the people cheating others, using somebody else's achievements to earn their living, violating the very principle of the free everything 0)
[10:51] <mneptok> l-form: they are allowed to do that as long as the give proper credit for the trademarks
[10:51] <mneptok> s/the/they/
[10:52] <l-form> what do you mean proper credit, a line saying this has been developed by canonical ltd, all rights reserved or something?
[10:52] <mneptok> "Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and others are trademarks of Canonical, Ltd. This site is not affiliated with Canonical, Ltd."
[10:53] <l-form> there's no such line there whatsoever!
[10:53] <ubuntu> hi
[10:53] <faisal_d> wow.. now i can speak with ubuntu itself :p
[10:53] <hastesaver> l-form, which site are you talking about?
[10:54] <ubuntu> (:
[10:55] <l-form> a  software portal selling ubuntu installation cds http://opensource.com.ua/product1293.html#comments
[10:56] <l-form> what it says there is that all trademarks are owned by their respective owners or smth like that
[10:57] <hastesaver> l-form, 5.00 ??? seems a reasonable price :-) [Even though I have no clue what the currency's value is...] 
[10:57] <faisal_d> I-form: that is giving proper credit to the trademark owners
[10:57] <hastesaver> l-form, they will have costs of shipping and handling; do you expect them to ShipIt(TM) for free? ;-)
[10:59] <NET||abuse> what is the plan for edgy seeing as dapper is the LTS release??
[11:00] <erUSUL> !schedule
[11:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:00] <mof> Ok i screwed my self, umounted my home directory, was on it's own partition, and deleted it from etc/mtab. Now no mater what i cant mount it.
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> no ah thats not what NET||abuse asks ... NET||abuse i think it will also be a LTS ..clearly i do not know :P
[11:01] <NET||abuse> exactly, that's what i meant
[11:01] <l-form> Faisal_d: still i think its not right to resell cd shipped by canonical for free, wouldnt u agree
[11:01] <hastesaver> NET||abuse, no, it's not a LTS. In fact, it's very Edgy :-)
[11:01] <berent> has anyone upgraded their kernel to dapper
[11:01] <berent> from breezy
[11:01] <NET||abuse> yeh, i did it
[11:01] <berent> how
[11:02] <hastesaver> !upgrade
[11:02] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:02] <NET||abuse> simple version... change your source.list, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:02] <NET||abuse> i shut down gdm and ran on console
[11:02] <NET||abuse> just to be sure ;)
[11:02] <erUSUL> NET||abuse: wickedpuppy it will not be lts. the lts release is dapper...
[11:02] <NET||abuse> and foolllowed the upgrade mentioned above
[11:02] <sc0tt> hey folks
[11:02] <berent> what did u change in source.lst
[11:02] <sc0tt> :)
[11:03] <NET||abuse> will edgy features be integrated into dapper then as it progresses?
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> eracc, okie
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> thanks
[11:03] <hastesaver> berent, you have a good internet connection, I presume?
[11:03] <mneptok> NET||abuse: depends on the feature, and its criticality tto proper operation
[11:04] <hastesaver> berent,  Whatever. Hit Alt-F2, and type:        gksudo "update-manager"
[11:04] <dibblego> when I boot off the live CD I get a message "ipw3945 Radio Frequency Kill Switch is on" and my wireless card is not available -- wtf is that?
[11:04] <mneptok> dibblego: check your BIOS?
[11:04] <NET||abuse> mneptok, hehe, ok, beryl?
[11:04] <NET||abuse> ;)
[11:05] <mneptok> NET||abuse: no comment.
[11:05] <dibblego> mneptok, but I haven't touched the bios -- it was working fine
[11:05] <mneptok> dibblego: with Ubuntu?
[11:05] <erUSUL> NET||abuse: the definition of stabel is "*no* new features *only* bug fixes"
[11:05] <lalala> 5https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases /q ubotu
[11:05] <dibblego> mneptok, yes
[11:05] <NET||abuse> erUSUL, doh. :(
[11:06] <hastesaver> NET||abuse, you can't have "stable" and "experimental" features on the same system :)
[11:06] <mneptok> dibblego: then i suggest you look around in the BIOS and in Windows to see if anything changed.
[11:06] <dibblego> mneptok, I just switched it on today and got that message for some reason, so I tried the live CD and saw that message
[11:06] <dibblego> mneptok, I don't run windows, but ok thanks
[11:06] <mneptok> dibblego: you switched what on today?
[11:06] <dibblego> mneptok, the machine
[11:07] <hAPPY_mAJA> How do you extract .rpm-files in ubuntu. The arc-tool doesn't work..
[11:07] <erUSUL> NET||abuse: what's the problem? if you want new features just upgrade to edgy when it's released
[11:07] <dibblego> according to BIOS, wireless is enabled
[11:08] <NET||abuse> erUSUL, i suppose i need to find out more bout what new features will be in there and if it's worth the potential headaches..
[11:08] <Alex232> I've installed eagle-usb-data and eagle-usb-utils packages, but my Sagem 800 ADSL modem doesn't work.
[11:08] <Alex232> After "startadsl" command it writes "Modem is not operational! Check eaglestat result to know its state!"
[11:08] <mneptok> dibblego: manufacturer?
[11:08] <Alex232> Pls help
[11:08] <dibblego> mneptok, Dell
[11:09] <l-form> does anyone know about cyrillics in gnome-icu?
[11:09] <gandolfthewizard> gm everyone
[11:09] <NET||abuse> i would love to use something such as beryl if it improved the performance and features of Xgl/compiz
[11:09] <gandolfthewizard> i have a quetion
[11:09] <hAPPY_mAJA> eey! .rpm???
[11:09] <mneptok> dibblego: have you contacted them to find out what they do to the 3945 to possibly cause that message? because i have a Thinkpad with a 3945 and have never seen anything like that.
[11:09] <gandolfthewizard> i am tryig to install from a cd how do i do that
[11:09] <dibblego> mneptok, that message comes from ubuntu during the boot of the live CD
[11:10] <gandolfthewizard> i have wine and i need to install win office 2000
[11:10] <dibblego> mneptok, then the wireless card simply isn't there
[11:10] <l-form> i mean everybody else in ru-net sees them as question marks
[11:10] <mneptok> dibblego: right, and what causes Ubuntu to believe that that situation is the case?
[11:10] <dibblego> mneptok, no idea - nothing changed as far as I can tell
[11:10] <Alex232> will anybody help me, please?
[11:10] <hAPPY_mAJA> gandolfthewizard: openoffice is much better, but if you insist i recomend VMware
[11:11] <gandolfthewizard> vm qare ok ty
[11:11] <berent> thanks guys i am able to get the upgrade to dapper
[11:11] <mneptok> dibblego: which is why i mentioned contacting Dell to see how their firmware interacts with that device.
[11:11] <dibblego> mneptok, ok thanks
[11:12] <hastesaver> daurn|afk, so, what did you do, finally?
[11:12] <gandolfthewizard> oh one more ?
[11:12] <gandolfthewizard> can i run mac software on linux on a pc
[11:12] <mneptok> no
[11:13] <gandolfthewizard> ok ty
[11:13] <Alex232> I've installed eagle-usb-data and eagle-usb-utils packages, but my Sagem 800 ADSL modem doesn't work. After startadsl command it writes "Modem is not operational! Check eaglestat result to know its state!" eaglestat writes "Modem waiting for driver response. Please send DSP (eaglectrl -d)". What can I do?
[11:13] <gandolfthewizard> thought i would ask
[11:13] <dibblego> mneptok, I think I may have figured it out :)
[11:13] <hAPPY_mAJA> gandolfthewizard: yeah, with VMware!
[11:13] <mneptok> dibblego: suave
[11:13] <dibblego> mneptok, I have pressed one of those Fn+<something> buttons
[11:13] <hastesaver> gandolfthewizard, but most of the common apps have near-equivalents, though
[11:14] <mneptok> dibblego: Don't Do That(tm)
[11:14] <dibblego> mneptok, yep, my wireless is back - thanks for the tips
[11:14] <mneptok> np
[11:15] <VoX> are there any programs available that will sort through a collection of images, and tag which ones are similar, based on the /image/ itself?
[11:16] <Alex232> nobody will help me :(
[11:16] <VoX> doesnt look like thar be many/any people around at present
[11:16] <berent> Alex232: I think there is no driver
[11:17] <Alex232> isn't eagle-usb-data a driver?
[11:17] <berent> Alex232 : for that modem?
[11:18] <AlinuxOS> Hello, how can I report a bug for Debian if I use Ubuntu ?
[11:19] <Alex232> Sagem provide eagle usb 1.9.9, and I found eagle-usb 2.xx in Ubuntu's distr
[11:19] <Alex232> it is the same driver, isn't it?
[11:20] <berent> not sure
[11:20] <Alex232> any it was written in package description that it is for Sagem 800
[11:20] <Alex232> anyway*
[11:21] <Alex232> and startadsl and stopadsl commands appeared after installation
[11:22] <Alex232> but it waits for some response from driver...
[11:22] <mneptok> Alex232: did you use sudo when launching those scripts?
[11:22] <daryl_> Excuse me, how do I tell what kernel I have?
[11:22] <sc0tt> Anyone here have a 5.1 creative sound card?
[11:22] <mneptok> daryl_: uname -a
[11:22] <sc0tt> daryl_, uname -a
[11:22] <sc0tt> :)
[11:22] <Alex232> no
[11:22] <Alex232> will it affect?
[11:22] <mneptok> Alex232: do so, please
[11:23] <timo> how can I list my udb devices?
[11:23] <sc0tt> lsusb
[11:23] <sc0tt> i would assume :P
[11:23] <timo> thanks
[11:23] <sc0tt> haven't had a chance to see what binutils etc come with bunutu
[11:23] <Caplain> i didnt have my tv plugged into my computer when i started it up and i dont want to have to restart to get the tv working, is there a way to init it?
[11:24] <daryl_> mneptok and sc0tt: this instruction is telling me to use synaptic to search for "linux-restricted-modules", and then install the appropriate module.  but I'm just not sure what is appropriate.
[11:24] <Alex232> okay, will try now  it is so difficult to shut down windows, load linux, shut down linux and go windows again to get here
[11:24] <Alex232> thanks
[11:24] <mneptok> daryl_: *what* instruction? for what?
[11:24] <daryl_> mneptok: some instructions for installing the appropriate support for my video card.
[11:25] <mneptok> daryl_: apt-cache search restricted
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> daryl_, it would be better for you to tell us what is your video card , where you see the instruction
[11:25] <tuskernini> THREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!
[11:25] <erUSUL> daryl_: linux-restricted-modules is a package that you have to install that comes with a few modules
[11:25] <xerxes1358> Hello
[11:26] <xerxes1358> He guys how is ATI RAEDON 3D support in Linux these days?
[11:26] <tuskernini> THREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!
[11:26] <mneptok> xerxes1358: given ATIs utter refusal to open even a tiny piece of their drivers, not as good as it could be.
[11:26] <xerxes1358> ah ok
[11:26] <daryl_> thanks guys, I think its a 686 I needed.
[11:26] <tuskernini> THREE HURRAYS for the kind soul who sent a free HDD to another ubuntu user (brandon) http://planet.ubuntu.com/ !!! way to go... wish i had the resources to be able to do that!
[11:27] <xerxes1358> is the XGL and nice desktop effects available today possible ? (Not talking about GAming)
[11:27] <tuskernini> sorry that was the last one... great stuff, thats ubuntu spirit
[11:28] <squee> How do I apply a .patch to a source directory?
[11:28] <sc0tt> I don't think ubuntu detected my soundcard right =p
[11:28] <halex> squee: patch -p0 < patch.patch
[11:29] <squee> thanks i'll try that
[11:31] <Frustrated_Noob> quick question, how am i to sudo bash diskmounter when it doesn't recognize the file on my desktop?
[11:33] <wickedpuppy> recognise the file ?
[11:33] <wickedpuppy> can explain ?
[11:34] <zim_> hi all when will 6.10 be out ???
[11:34] <CheekyBoinc> 26.10
[11:34] <zim_> ty
[11:34] <Frustrated_Noob> well, i have the file diskmounter on the desktop in ubuntu.  When i go into the terminal and type sudo bash diskmounter, as per the instructions, it says it can't find the file.
[11:35] <wickedpuppy> dismounter ?
[11:35] <wickedpuppy> file name is diskmounter ?
[11:35] <Frustrated_Noob> yes
[11:35] <wickedpuppy> which instruction ? can point me to it ?
[11:35] <Frustrated_Noob> the one in the diskmounter file
[11:36] <mneptok> uhh
[11:36] <mneptok> bash? what's that there for?
[11:36] <mneptok> what is it you're trying to do with this file?
[11:36] <wickedpuppy> i am confused ..
[11:36] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:36] <Frustrated_Noob> trying to get it so that ubuntu will be able to read ntfs formats
[11:37] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: have you looked in /media?
[11:38] <Frustrated_Noob> ah, no
[11:38] <Frustrated_Noob> unfortunately, i dont have it on dual boot
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> don't have what ?
[11:38] <Frustrated_Noob> one other question.....  How do I write to the file system disk?
[11:38] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: write what?
[11:39] <Frustrated_Noob> anything.
[11:39] <Frustrated_Noob> i have only read permissions on the desk.
[11:39] <Frustrated_Noob> er, disk
[11:39] <mneptok> right
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> Frustrated_Noob, can ask things clearly ? i have no idea what is it that you want ...
[11:39] <mneptok> because only the root user can write wherever they please
[11:39] <Frustrated_Noob> i am root
[11:39] <mneptok> this is called "security."
[11:40] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[11:40] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: you are not root. i can almost guarantee it.
[11:41] <Frustrated_Noob> interesting.  then how does one get root on one's own computer after one has installed ubuntu?
[11:41] <Frustrated_Noob> and strange how the terminal says i am root
[11:41] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: type "who"
[11:41] <mneptok> (in a temrinal)
[11:42] <erUSUL> !sudo
[11:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:42] <erUSUL> !sudo > Frustrated_Noob
[11:42] <erUSUL> Frustrated_Noob: sudo -i gives a root shell
[11:43] <basvg> hey all
[11:43] <mneptok> and wandering around your machine as root, and with a nick that includes the word "Noob" makes me somewhat more than uneasy
[11:43] <Frustrated_Noob> see, i'm not so noob that i can't figure out to have a back up.
[11:43] <orion> can someone please help. my resources shows 97% CPU usage from events/0 ?
[11:44] <Frustrated_Noob> they won't orion
[11:44] <Frustrated_Noob> they'll tell you what an idiot you are first
[11:44] <basvg> a while ago I noticed a thread on xcompmgr messing up gnome-panel in the sense that the panel which shows 'lock screen' 'reboot' etc. doesn't work anymore... just installed taht stuff again and it still happens. ANy clue how/when that'll be fixed?
[11:44] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: i have used Unix for almost 25 years. i work for Canonical. i don't wander around my machine as root. you do the math. and then kindly tell me exactly when i called you an idiot.
[11:45] <mneptok> orion: what does top tell you?
[11:45] <emiliogr> hola
[11:45] <Rookie> !es
[11:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:45] <Frustrated_Noob> just because you don't use the word doesn't mean you don't use it mneptok.  and as for wandering around the machine as root, i was doing as told by several members of this community.
[11:45] <orion> ok, one minute
[11:46] <Frustrated_Noob> I have not wandered around the machine as root, but believe what you want.
[11:46] <Frustrated_Noob> obviously ubuntu was not the wisest choice for me into my first foray into the linux cosmos
[11:47] <Frustrated_Noob> This only tells me I've wasted the past week pulling together the resources so that I can make a safe migration.  I'll merely reformat the hd to something windows recognizes and use it as is.
[11:48] <Rookie> If ubuntu is not for you, try slackware, latest version got out yesterday ... 11.0
[11:48] <Frustrated_Noob> not going to bother with linux anymore, rookie.  i'm tired of being treated like a moron.
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> Frustrated_Noob, its ok not to like ubuntu ... but pls don't troll here ..
[11:49] <Rookie> well, linux is real easy, ive done it for 8 years and i find it easy
[11:49] <orion> mneptok, post the whole thing?
[11:49] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: then take advice from people with more experience than you and stop putting words in their mouths. you'll get along much better with people if you don't start your relations with them by ignoring them and making up things they said.
[11:49] <sc0tt> Anyone know how to get stereo upmixed to 5.1 on a creative card?
[11:49] <mneptok> one man's opinion, of course
[11:49] <sc0tt> Windows used to have a little util called EAX
[11:49] <sc0tt> that would set the card to upmix
[11:49] <mneptok> orion: what is the very first entry in top? the one using the most CPU?
[11:50] <Rookie> linux is about to understand security on several lvl's and networking and hardware vs software ...
[11:50] <Frustrated_Noob> I haven't made up anything.  I asked for help in how to get diskmounter to run.  Then I asked how i can write to the hd.  i was told that i wasn't root, when I am, and I was told that i wasn't making any sense.
[11:51] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: you said i called you an "idiot," when i most certainly said no such thing. your response was "just because you didn't say it doesn't mean you didn;t say it."
[11:51] <cmc_> xgl
[11:51] <orion> top - 02:48:02 up 24 min,  3 users,  load average: 1.72, 2.71, 3.02
[11:51] <orion> Cpu(s):  8.6% us, 89.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  1.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.3% hi,  0.3% si
[11:51] <orion> not sure if that's it? sorry
[11:51] <sc0tt> next line orion ;)
[11:51] <Peter77> hi, the battery monito for ubuntu is a bit faulty
[11:51] <orion> Mem:   2076340k total,   325144k used,  1751196k free,     7724k buffers
[11:52] <mneptok> orion: look a little bit down at the list of running processes. which one is at the top of the list, using the most CPU?
[11:52] <Peter77> some times it appears others it doesn't
[11:52] <Frustrated_Noob> Hmm, you tell me I don't have root when I do.  So either I'm a liar or an idiot.
[11:52] <Frustrated_Noob> either way, doesn't matter.  I'll try elsewhere, maybe someone will help.
[11:52] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: i didn't say "you don;t have root"
[11:52] <wickedpuppy> orion, below PID , USER and so on
[11:52] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: i said "you are not root"
 Frustrated_Noob: you are not root. i can almost guarantee it.
[11:52] <Rookie> depence on how you got to root account ... you can get to root on several ways but few gives you your paths
[11:53] <wickedpuppy> mneptok, pls ...
[11:53] <mneptok> Frustrated_Noob: the difference between saying "you do not own boots" and "you are not wearing boots"
[11:53] <sc0tt> lol
[11:53] <sc0tt> best analogy ever
[11:53] <Peter77> can anyone help my fix the vattery monitor?
[11:53] <sc0tt> :>
[11:53] <Frustrated_Noob> doesn't matter.  thing says root when i'm in the terminal
[11:53] <Peter77> I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.
[11:53] <Peter77> The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).
[11:53] <Peter77> Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?
[11:54] <mneptok> Peter77: have you tried removing it from the panel when it is visible, and re-adding it?
[11:54] <Peter77> yeah
[11:54] <Frustrated_Noob> Well, thanks for the "useful" information.
[11:55] <orion> 4 root      39  19     0    0    0 R 97.2  0.0  21:17.85 events/0
[11:55] <orion> 4460 root      15   0 45732  21m 7536 S  0.3  1.1   1:31.36 Xorg
[11:55] <mneptok> Peter77: FYI, the battery monitor does not appear when the machine is fulyl charged and plugged into AC.
[11:55] <mneptok> *fully
[11:55] <Peter77> the one in the panel just says "ac is connected, no battery", and the other one near the clock just doesn't appear when thats displayed
[11:55] <mneptok> orion: and events/0 is the one eating CPU?
[11:55] <Peter77> but my machine isn't fully charged
[11:56] <Peter77> some times it's nearly flat and ends up cutting out because theres no monitor
[11:56] <mneptok> Peter77: remove one or the other
[11:56] <Peter77> ?
[11:56] <mneptok> Peter77: you said you have one monitor in a panel, and another up by the clock.
[11:56] <Peter77> the one by the clock appears when power is detected
[11:56] <mneptok> get rid of one of those and just let a single instance try to sort things out
[11:57] <erUSUL> orion: tail -f /var/log/messages maybe faulty hardware is generating a lot of events...?
[11:57] <Peter77> I also use kubuntu
[11:57] <Peter77> which seems to have the same problem
[11:57] <Peter77> it's appeared in kubuntu now so I'm going to switch to gnome to see if it works there too
[11:57] <erUSUL> orion: also  'sudo udevmonitor'
[11:58] <mibuk> I've raised a bug in Launchpad against libsdl1.2 and nothings happening with it.  It's a known bug upstream that has been fixed, and I posted hte individual patch, or requested that the maintainer upgraded package to latest version.  Is htere anyhting else I can do?  Is it possible for me to either add the patch to the current ubuntu deb, or to update the current deb to latest upstream version, or is that something only the package
[11:58] <mibuk> maintainer can do?
[11:58] <Peter77> (kubuntu desktop btw)
[11:58] <Peter77> yeah it's working in gnome now
[11:59] <Peter77> I'm going to restart and go into kde instead of going into gnome which I normally do and the monitor doesn't appear
[11:59] <orion> sorry, I am having trouble with irssi, I will be back in a second
[12:01] <Peter77> kde says "no power source found"
[12:01] <orion> ok sorry, based on this-> 4 root      39  19     0    0    0 R 97.2  0.0  21:17.85 events/0
[12:02] <Peter77> so it must something below the GUI level
[12:02] <orion> it shows 97% so does that mean it could be faulty hardware you said?
[12:02] <erUSUL> orion: i said to check the kernel log just in case...
[12:03] <orion> ok sorry, could you tell me how one more time?
[12:03] <erUSUL> orion: tail -f /var/log/messages
[12:03] <erUSUL> orion: also  'sudo udevmonitor'
[12:03] <mibuk> anybody know the answer to my question?
[12:03] <Peter77> I didn't have this trouble when running suse on my laptop
[12:05] <daurn|afk> ok
[12:05] <daurn|afk> how do you burn wmas
[12:05] <daurn|afk> whats the trick
[12:05] <afx> mibuk/ what is your question?
[12:06] <mibuk> I've raised a bug in Launchpad against libsdl1.2 and nothings happening with it.  It's a known bug upstream that has been fixed, and I posted hte individual patch, or requested that the maintainer upgraded package to latest version.  Is htere anyhting else I can do?  Is it possible for me to either add the patch to the current ubuntu deb, or to update the current deb to latest upstream version, or is that something only the package
[12:06] <mibuk> maintainer can do?
[12:06] <mibuk> Basically, can I do anything after raising the bug (which I did about a month ago).
[12:06] <rpedro> what's a good newsgroup client?
[12:07] <mneptok> rpedro: gui or cli?
[12:07] <rpedro> gui
[12:07] <mneptok> Pan
[12:07] <Peter77> can anyone help me?
[12:07] <rpedro> ah, thanks
[12:07] <mibuk> its bug #61389
[12:08] <HerC1> hello
[12:08] <mneptok> mibuk: if you have a bug in LP, and a fix, paste the fix to a new post
[12:08] <HerC1> i have question
[12:08] <HerC1> how to install my asus ati 9550 Gt
[12:08] <wickedpuppy> !ati
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <mibuk> mneptok: I did that already
[12:09] <mneptok> mibuk: and is the fix in Edgy?
[12:10] <Przemcio78> hi, could anyone post his/hers /boor/grub/menu.lst file?
[12:10] <HerC1> yeah and i have other question when i start the pC and choose ubuntu with grub loader when the linux has start loading my monitor writed OUT OF RANGE 35//86 hz khz i don't remember
[12:10] <mibuk> mneptok: Not that I can see, I cant run edgy on my dev laptop, X broke seriously last time I tried, and had to reformat and reinstall dapper :(
[12:11] <Przemcio78> i mean could anyone paste it somewhere? i'd like to check sth out
[12:11] <Peter77> a little help plz
[12:11] <mneptok> mibuk: until Edgy definitevely ships without the fix i wouldn't panic
[12:11] <mneptok> *definitively
[12:11] <Peter77> I need this battery monitor to work because I use my laptop to take notes in lectures
[12:11] <daurn|afk> anyone???
[12:11] <daurn|afk> how do you burn wmas
[12:11] <camer0ff> have a quick question about ubuntu and changing monitors
[12:12] <camer0ff> do i just ask?
[12:12] <Peter77> good thing I didn't format the windows partition, windows actually has it's uses!
[12:12] <BuZzY> !firefox
[12:12] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:12] <mibuk> mneptok:  I think it should be backported to Dapper.  It means that all pygame and SDL based applications dont work with a compiz desktop.  thats a lot of software that wont work.
[12:13] <Peter77> any one know whats wrong with the battery monitor in ubuntu?
[12:13] <wickedpuppy> Przemcio78, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25643/
[12:13] <mneptok> mibuk: people sticking with a fault-tolerant release like Dapper should not be using half-baked OGL accelerators like compiz, IMO
[12:13] <sc0tt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1579043#post1579043
[12:13] <sc0tt> incase anyone is bored and wants to help :>
[12:13] <HerC1> wickedpuppy,  my video card is not ati radeon it it ASUS ATI what to do
[12:14] <Peter77> I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.
[12:14] <Peter77> The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).
[12:14] <Peter77> Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?
[12:14] <HerC1> !asus
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <halex> mneptok: but remember, it's gonna be a while before compiz is gonna be classified as stable
[12:14] <wickedpuppy> HerC1, ah ... i thought there is only one ati ...
[12:14] <camer0ff> just wondering how i get ubuntu to recognise my new monitor, it currently is only supporting 1024x768 and it should be able to support higher
[12:14] <HerC1> Make sure the following things are true about your video card:
[12:14] <HerC1>     *
[12:14] <HerC1>       It is a 'Radeon' card
[12:15] <HerC1> it isn't radeon card
[12:15] <Przemcio78> wickedpuppy: thanks
[12:15] <halex> Peter77: Change your Power Management preferences, see the General tab on the dialog, and check the Always Show radio box..
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> Przemcio78, np ... save it somewhere safe :P
[12:15] <Mille> lo xD
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> HerC1, it is or is it not ?
[12:15] <Peter77> halex: ok I'll try that
[12:15] <mneptok> halex: precisely, which is why ensuring that every app under the sun works with such unstable code is sorta futile.
[12:16] <Mille> I'm wondering. Isn't it possible to move the ubuntu partition (ext3) forward with gparted on the live-cd?
[12:16] <Przemcio78> i wanted to change some option in my archlinux grub that was default in ubuntu :)
[12:16] <HerC1> wickedpuppy,  IT"S NOT RADEON
[12:16] <HerC1> asus ati not ati radeon
[12:16] <Przemcio78> thanks
[12:17] <wickedpuppy> HerC1, relax .. sorry about that .. nope i guess i can't help ya there ... perhaps others can
[12:17] <halex> mneptok: the only real stopgap measure is to run two X servers, which is a pain in the rear for the average joe..
[12:17] <NineTeen67Comet> HI all .. Does anyone know is there another desktop manager competing with Compiz? I thought I saw something the other day on my other computer called by*** can't remember totally ..
[12:17] <HerC1> wickedpuppy,  sry just i tring to install this video card much time ago...
[12:17] <HerC1> and I can't
[12:17] <soon> Hi Folks - attached new camera via USB, doesnt auto-mount, dmesg: usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[12:18] <soon> configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
[12:18] <wickedpuppy> HerC1, have you bugged asus ?
[12:18] <halex> brb guys, gotta install edgy..
[12:18] <wickedpuppy> after all its their hardware
[12:18] <HerC1> asus ati 9550 GT i don't know
[12:18] <erUSUL> HerC1: you are confused radeon is the name of the chip as is gforce for nvidia athought asus make cards with both chips (radeon and gforce) and chipmakers (ati and nvidia)
[12:18] <soon> any suggestions what I should mount? It doesnt turn up as a /dev/sda or sdb
[12:18] <Peter77> halex, ok I've done that, it says "computer is running on battery power but is displaying no level
[12:19] <HerC1> erUSUL,  so ? i can install fglrx driver and 3d accelelator will be working ?
[12:19] <erUSUL> HerC1: so yes yours is a radeon chip card (rxxx in the lspci aoutput)
[12:19] <Thandavarayan> HerC1, yeah...erUSUL is right.
[12:19] <daurn|afk> anyone at all
[12:19] <daurn|afk> how do you burn wmas
[12:19] <Peter77> plugged in AC, now it says computer is running on AC
[12:19] <erUSUL> HerC1: yes
[12:19] <erUSUL> !ati
[12:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:19] <HerC1> thanks
[12:19] <mibuk> mneptok: I'd like to point out, it's not as simple as making a single app work with the unstable but very popular XGL/AIGLX servers.  it's making a dynamicly loaded library that can and is used by a number of third party applications and a large number of games, fixing this makes all of them work correctly.  not fixing it breaks all those applicaitons and a number of games
[12:19] <erUSUL> !caps > HerC1
[12:19] <wickedpuppy> lol
[12:19] <HerC1> but i want to ask other
[12:20] <wickedpuppy> thats what i showed him ....
[12:20] <HerC1> when i start loading linux
[12:20] <Peter77> ok so it detects where the battery power is coming from but still no level
[12:20] <HerC1> my monitor writes out of range..
[12:20] <HerC1> and when X will be loader
[12:20] <erUSUL> !patience > HerC1
[12:20] <camer0ff> hey i have just connected a new monitor to the computer, how do i get it to recognise the new monitor so i can set the resolution higher?
[12:20] <speud> how can i do to go the french server
[12:20] <mibuk> daurn|afk:  what do you mean burn WMA's?  Do you want them just on CD as files?  or on DVD's / CD's as a Video CD that will play in a DVD player?
[12:21] <THX-1138> daurn - Re-ecode them to something else? wav or mp3? - you can't really do it.
[12:21] <daurn|afk> as an audio cd
[12:21] <HerC1> sry
[12:21] <HerC1> erUSUL,
[12:21] <HerC1> :
[12:21] <mibuk> daurn|afk: then you need to re-encode them as WAV files
[12:21] <daurn|afk> THX-1138: i don't want to lose anymore quality (so not mp3)
[12:22] <daurn|afk> mibuk: is there a prog WITH gui that will do that?
[12:22] <cpk2> camer0ff: if it doesnt detect the monitor automatically you can put modelines into xorg yourself
[12:22] <Peter77> any ideas please?
[12:22] <THX-1138> I suppose you might do one at a time capturing each one in real time using audacity to wav
[12:22] <mibuk> daurn|afk: I think you can do it with mplayer, checkout the mplayer website, they have an encoding / recording tool included with mplayer.
[12:22] <camer0ff> cpk2, modelines? can you explain please
[12:22] <daurn|afk> arg
[12:22] <THX-1138> daurn - i have hundred+ gigs of lossless varible bit encoded wmas.
[12:23] <daurn|afk> i just want to get a cd/playlist to go through my stereo
[12:23] <BuZzY> !usb
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <BuZzY> !usbdrive
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <daurn|afk> BuZzY: you plug them in... thats it
[12:23] <THX-1138> daurn - It took me days to do. - the only fast option i have seen is blazepro. - someone please, please tell me i am wrong.
[12:23] <cpk2> camer0ff: in your xorg.conf you will either have a section with modelines or modes, if its just modes you can input what resolution you want x to use, if it uses modelines you can generate your modeline here http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[12:24] <BuZzY> ok daurn|afk  :DS
[12:24] <daurn|afk> i don;t want to go back to windows
[12:24] <daurn|afk> but i think i might have to
[12:24] <daurn|afk> i can't handle the lack of music tools for linux
[12:24] <ReservoirGods> Hello all, I am trying to get a tv tuner card to work, forums helped just about enough to get the tuner working. can see a very good picture. but no sound.
[12:24] <mibuk> daurn|afk: cant you just use your headphones / lineout on your pc and the Aux In onyur stereo.  it'd be easier.   Re-encoding the files will take a while and lot of space.
[12:24] <BuZzY> !floppy
[12:24] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[12:24] <cpk2> daurn|afk: lack of music tools?
[12:24] <rockerichtig> ReservoirGods: maybe you need to plug in a cable for sound?
[12:24] <daurn|afk> mibuk: stereo is 4 rooms away :P
[12:25] <ReservoirGods> I've tried a lotta things with the /etc/modules.d/bttv file- but nothing is happening- the audio out jack is connected . duh.
[12:25] <ReservoirGods> i checked the volumes too
[12:25] <mibuk> ReservoirGods: Does your TV card provide sound, or do you need to connect a jack to jack cable from tv card to sound card?  my old tv card needed me to do that
[12:25] <THX-1138> mibuk - recording an analog signal sounds pretty bad.
[12:25] <Peter77> could the problem be in the ACPI?
[12:25] <daurn|afk> cpk2: no good library tools, few reencoing tools, no good taggers, lag
[12:25] <ReservoirGods> line in seems to be unmuted. mibuk- its an old one. heck- the box says for windows 98/98 :P
[12:25] <Peter77> or a conflict between KDE and Gnome?
[12:25] <mneptok> daurn|afk: EasyTag is a *great* ID3 tagger
[12:26] <daurn|afk> THX-1138: [20:21:46]  <daurn|afk> i just want to get a cd/playlist to go through my stereo
[12:26] <camer0ff> cpk2, where do i find xorg.conf?
[12:26] <ReservoirGods> well, i've got the cable connected directly to the sound card.
[12:26] <mibuk> ReservoirGods:  does the tV card have a jack socket on it?
[12:26] <mneptok> daurn|afk: Rhythmbox and Banshee both handle large libraries well (mine is 30,000 songs)
[12:26] <mibuk> camer0ff: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:26] <cpk2> camer0ff: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:26] <camer0ff> so i was close :)
[12:26] <cpk2> what mibuk said ^^
[12:26] <mibuk> :)
[12:26] <camer0ff> cpk2, mibuk thanks
[12:27] <ReservoirGods> mibuk - yeah- it does- you mean for a small audio cable provided with the tv tuner card - let me just paste the dmesg output and bttv file
[12:27] <cpk2> still trying to understand what the advantage of burning to wma would be?
[12:27] <mibuk> ReservoirGods: did you connect the cable between the sound card and the tv card?  I know these are stupid questions, but it's good to check :)
[12:28] <THX-1138> FLAC! FLAC! - lol
[12:28] <rockerichtig> ReservoirGods: maybe the soundcard inline is muted or your TV tool uses to wrong engine
[12:28] <rockerichtig> check these things
[12:28] <mibuk> cp2k: I think daurn wants to burn from WMA, to normal music CD
[12:28] <cpk2> THX-1138: yeah, i was going to say use flac if you are a big audiophile
[12:29] <BuZzY> !floppy
[12:29] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[12:29] <THX-1138> cp2k - you might use audacity to capture a wav file then burn that.
[12:29] <ReservoirGods> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Mxdzj499.html
[12:29] <cpk2> THX-1138: I dont need the music burning help =P
[12:29] <ReservoirGods> rockerichtig: see for yourself. I cant understand much of the dmesg output. but i suspect something about the audio is missing here :S
[12:29] <cpk2> i have a spdif out straight to my stereo =)
[12:30] <THX-1138> cpk2 - you would still need to configure you sound plugins  - i thought we were helping daurn - share the knowledge, linux community - "Ubuntu"
[12:30] <ReservoirGods> mibuk: I've done that- connected to the soundcard. heck, i even tried the onboard sound as well as an old soundblaster card I'd lying around. nuthing works.,
[12:30] <ReservoirGods> thinking of giving it a try with the audigy card.
[12:31] <mibuk> ReservoirGods:  I think you'll find that with a TV Card like that, the software doesn't do anyhting with sound.  the hardware just outputs it directly to the jack you plugged in.  Therefore the software wont see a volume, but you have to manually control the line in on your sound card to get the tv sound to come in.
[12:31] <Ishmael> Does anyone use PALM machines and are they as much easier to sync with Ubunt?
[12:31] <camer0ff> cpk2, do i have to restart x to get this resolution thing to update? i have gone as far as to delete all the other modes to see if it will work... but nothing. am i right to believe that i just have to reboot x?
[12:32] <cpk2> camer0ff: thats right, i hope you backed up your xorg.org =P
[12:32] <camer0ff> nope :D
[12:32] <mibuk> ReservoirGods:  Sounds like the line in isn't working then.  make sure it's not muted, that its turned up, that it's not overridden by the mic input, er... trying to think of other ideas.
[12:32] <camer0ff> cpk2, nope... wish me luck :D
[12:32] <camer0ff> cpk2, be back soon
[12:32] <anilomkar> ubotu, how to install tomcat in Ubuntu
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to install tomcat in Ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <cpk2> camer0ff: we hope =)
[12:33] <Rookie> !tomcat
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <Peter77> I'm using ubuntu with both the KDE and Gnome desktops installed on a Sony Vaio PCG-fr215s Notebook.
[12:33] <Peter77> The Battery monitor isn't always visible (random after restart/shut down).
[12:33] <Peter77> Can anyone help me fix this so that it is visible 100% of the time?
[12:33] <THX-1138> Rookie is the tomcat server prt of xamp?
[12:33] <anilomkar> can anyone help me in installing tomcat in Ubuntu
[12:34] <Peter77> I've made it permantly visible and it tells me if I'm using AC or battery but the level reading is still intermitent
[12:34] <ReservoirGods> mibuk- yes. I can understand. wait...i think thats one thing i'd not tried- overridden by mic output. Will try. But I am kinda on the verge of giving up- just looked through the tv4linux site and from what they've described there's a helluva lotta tweaking that needs to be done. even if i get the card number/settings right, i also have to make sure the tuner settings, TDA and what-nots are just set right- otherwise, wont work. thanks for the help
[12:34] <Thandavarayan> Peter77 Could you please give the Ubuntu version.
[12:34] <ReservoirGods> though. http://rafb.net/paste/results/zYyvu861.html
[12:34] <Peter77> Dapper Drake
[12:34] <Peter77> 6.06
[12:35] <camer0n> yay
[12:35] <mibuk> ReservorGods:  I know how you feel.   I think I'm going to have to buy a decent TV card so I cna setup a mythtv box
[12:35] <camer0n> cpk2, i didn't die :D
[12:35] <cpk2> camer0n: you have the resolution you want?
[12:35] <Ishmael> Hi, just to try again: does anyone use PALM machines and are they as much easier to sync with Ubuntu?
[12:35] <camer0n> cpk2, yeah
[12:35] <cpk2> camer0n: =D
[12:35] <camer0n> cpk2, everythings small.... *high fives the air*
[12:36] <Peter77> Thandavarayan: could it be the ACPI as I have the same problem in the KDE desktop
[12:36] <mibuk> Other than that, I'm out of ideas.  sound cards aren't really my thing, I never understood the whole Alsa/Esound/OSS stuff
[12:36] <camer0n> cpk2, it has also chucked in a whole heap of other values in between 1024x768 and 1280x1024.... not sure if that is a good thing :P
[12:37] <cpk2> camer0n: did you plug in the new monitor while x was running?
[12:37] <camer0n> yeah
[12:37] <Thandavarayan> Peter77 If that demon has started during the startup, then it should not be a problem for these applets to show the battery status...or....
[12:37] <camer0n> but i have restarted the comptuer since then
[12:37] <BuZzY> how can i convert wav files into mp3's ????
[12:37] <camer0n> cpk2, yeah... but i rebooted since
[12:37] <BuZzY> !mp3
[12:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <BuZzY> !mp3 convert
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Peter77> it seems to show if during boot up I plug it into the AC then remove the AC
[12:38] <cpk2> camer0n: well as long as it works now =P
[12:38] <ShadeT> You have a sound device, that only 1 thread can talk to at one time... So Alsa/Esound/OSS specifically talks to the sound device, so multiple application can then play sounds by talking to Alsa/Esound/OSS.
[12:38] <erUSUL> !info soundconverter
[12:38] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[12:39] <camer0n> cpk2, yeah... pity it's still an old monitor.. bigger than the old one though.. fits more :)
[12:39] <triptec> I have a amd64, what do u recommend, 64 or 32 ubuntu??
[12:39] <mibuk> Cheers ShadeT, I kinda get the idea, but it's configuring, and getting everything working that I can never work out.  they all seem to be installed at once on most systems.
[12:39] <Peter77> Thandavarayan: do you think it could be the kernal as changing the power source during boot seems to activate the battery level
[12:40] <BuZzY> !time
[12:40] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[12:40] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Can you able to see the kernel log.
[12:40] <camer0n> cpk2, thanks for the help anyway. /me goes off and idles in satisfication
[12:40] <BuZzY> !sync time
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <BuZzY> !synctime
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synctime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Peter77> when booting?
[12:40] <erUSUL> ShadeT: of the three only esound does what you say (and arts and polyaudio btw) alsa and oss are drivers frameworks for the kernel ass is obsolete so alsa has a compat layer to support old apis and braindamaged apps like skype
[12:41] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Yeah...
[12:41] <Peter77> yes
[12:41] <BuZzY> how can i convert wav files into mp3's ????
[12:41] <vladimirBG> hey
[12:42] <Peter77> well under the logo
[12:42] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: What does the log file says.
[12:42] <Peter77> just loading hardware  ok
[12:42] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  lame, if you want command line
[12:42] <ShadeT> Ahh, that is right.  I am stuck in the old days.
[12:42] <Peter77> and all that other stuff, nothing about battery
[12:42] <vladimirBG> can you recomend some software that can convert non-drm wmv and mov files into PAL DV format?
[12:43] <erUSUL> vladimirBG: ffmpeg or mencoder
[12:43] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: /etc/init.d/acpid start
[12:43] <mahmoud> hi
[12:43] <Peter77> ok
[12:43] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: try to start the demon,
[12:43] <Peter77> i'll try that
[12:43] <mahmoud> i've a problem
[12:43] <unfknblvbl> !php
[12:43] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[12:43] <BuZzY> meson_ray, GUI?
[12:43] <Peter77> in terminal right?
[12:43] <mahmoud> after apt-get instal gcc
[12:44] <mahmoud> and compiling a c file
[12:44] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: /etc/init.d/acpi-support start
[12:44] <yango> where do I link libjavaplugin_oji.so for firefox to use the Java plugin?
[12:44] <Thandavarayan> to check the battery status...
[12:44] <mahmoud> i've an error message
[12:44] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  try soundconverter.  i dunno if it converts to mp3 or not though
[12:44] <yango> to $HOME/.mozilla/firefox what else?
[12:44] <Thandavarayan> ofcourse in terminal
[12:44] <mahmoud> stdlib.h stdio.h
[12:44] <mahmoud> not found
[12:44] <Peter77> ok it came on this time because  had to turn AC on during boot up
[12:44] <BuZzY> LOL meson_ray  :D
[12:44] <meson_ray> well, i know it converts FROM mp3
[12:45] <Peter77> for some reason that has an effect
[12:45] <herc1> !ati
[12:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <meson_ray> i know there was a program somewhere, i don't remember what it was though
[12:45] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Can your describe in more detail, what exactly you have done.
[12:46] <Peter77> just plug/unplug the AC while linux is booting
[12:46] <meson_ray> give me a second to look
[12:46] <Thandavarayan> Peter77 Okay, after booting the applet shows the status of the battery or...
[12:46] <Peter77> if I don't change the power source while booting it generally won't show the battery level
[12:46] <Peter77> no in the GUI
[12:46] <Peter77> Gnome
[12:47] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Yeah Yeah...
[12:47] <mahmoud> after apt-get install gcc and compiling a c file i've an error message stdio.h sys/wait.h not found
[12:47] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: Can you able to look into the log files.
[12:48] <Thandavarayan> Peter77: /var/log/
[12:48] <Peter77> ok there
[12:48] <Peter77> what am I loooking for?
[12:49] <LookTJ> How do i install opera?
[12:49] <erUSUL> !opera
[12:49] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:50] <LookTJ> ok thanks
[12:50] <Thandavarayan> look of acpid
[12:50] <Peter77> ok
[12:50] <Peter77> found
[12:50] <Thandavarayan> to see, it says loaded...
[12:50] <mahmoud> no one to help me?
[12:51] <Peter77> 1 client rule loaded?
[12:51] <erUSUL> !b-e > mahmoud
[12:51] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  lame has a script, called mlame that you can use to convert multiple files.
[12:51] <erUSUL> !b-e
[12:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:52] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  if you still think you need a gui, try a google search or something
[12:52] <BuZzY> ok
[12:52] <erUSUL> !info soundconverter
[12:52] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[12:52] <mahmoud> after apt-get install gcc and compiling a c file i've an error message stdio.h sys/wait.h not found
[12:52] <BuZzY> people how can i remove safely my pen driver?
[12:52] <BuZzY> on win xp  have to disable it first
[12:52] <ReservoirGods> Another problem. I cant copy anything to usb-disks - in /etc/fstab, i have the users,rw options turned on- and the directory is owned by my user. what gives?
[12:53] <berent> Buzzy : umount /mnt
[12:53] <ReservoirGods> BuZzY: simply umount /media/path_to_flash
[12:53] <ShadeT> Or right click on the icon on your desktop and eject
[12:53] <erUSUL> mahmoud: check the ubotu msg's and the pm
[12:53] <Peter77> Thandavarayan:"1client rule loaded"
[12:53] <LookTJ> where is the opera debian package in dapper
[12:54] <perkins> hola
[12:54] <Canopy> hello there
[12:54] <xav> you have to add a repo
[12:54] <THX-1138> LookTJ Good Moring - commercial non-free repos
[12:54] <LookTJ> i added that
[12:55] <meson_ray> BuZzY:  try razorlame, maybe
[12:55] <xav> LookTJ, well just install opera now then
[12:55] <LookTJ> by the software properties
[12:55] <THX-1138> LookTj - you will also need libqt3-mt
[12:55] <P3L|C4N0> LookTJ, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[12:55] <chromium6> hello I have a radeon 9200SE with the RV280 chip set and I cant get for the life of me fglrx or sti drivers to fire up DRI and I tried building fglrx but I get build errors
[12:55] <Canopy> Where can I go for some help?
[12:55] <perkins> alguien que hable espaol
[12:55] <chromium6> s/sti/ati
[12:55] <P3L|C4N0> perkins, en #ubuntu-es
[12:55] <THX-1138> !es
[12:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:56] <perkins> como se hace
[12:56] <erUSUL> chromium6: fglrx not longer support r2xx (te latest version from ati) radeon free driver has better performance use it (man radeon, man ati)
[12:56] <P3L|C4N0> perkins, escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[12:56] <THX-1138> perkins - I always hate doing !es it's dead there. - nice that you speak spanish.
[12:56] <perkins> gracias
[12:57] <xav> erUSUL, ubuntu doesn't provide the last version of fglrx
[12:57] <Canopy> I need some  help installing a graphics driver (n00b to Linux)
[12:57] <erUSUL> xav: i know but chromium6 said "I tried building fglrx but I get build errors..."
[12:58] <THX-1138> Canopy - ati or nvidia/
[12:58] <chromium6> yes I have used the ati driver in my xorg.conf and tried to pass Chipset "RV280"  and the log files still say it is not supported
[12:58] <Canopy> thx , nvidia
[12:58] <meson_ray> if i want to stick all of my binary files on a different partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?
[12:58] <chromium6> I binaries do me no good from ati because they stopped supporting it
[12:58] <THX-1138> Canopy - great! - nvivdia works best.
[12:58] <THX-1138> !nvidia
[12:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:59] <xav> erUSUL, oh right, I forgot ubuntu had them built already
[12:59] <meson_ray> or rather, what can i stick from my ubuntu partition on another partition easily (without being able to mount said partition in ubuntu)
[12:59] <arendagan> what date is the stable version of edgy being released??
[12:59] <Canopy> that is good...going there now, standby plz
[12:59] <unfknblvbl> 26 October
[12:59] <erUSUL> !schedule
[12:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:59] <arendagan> ok.. thanks
[01:00] <LookTJ> ok thanks P3L|C4N0
[01:00] <LookTJ> for the repos
[01:00] <LookTJ> :)
[01:00] <P3L|C4N0> ;)
[01:00] <chromium6> ok ubotu I will give that a shot
[01:00] <chromium6> thanks
[01:01] <Canopy> THX, looks like it is just what I need to figure it out ... thx!
[01:01] <xav> chromium6, why don't you tell us which errors you have with radeon?
[01:01] <xav> chromium6, it's better to use radeon drivers if you can
[01:02] <erUSUL> chromium6: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose ati driver... i can post my old radeon xorg.conf (for a 9250) so you can take a look at relevant sections (device, modules, dri etc...)
[01:02] <chromium6> done that
[01:03] <chromium6> I have started to edit my xorg.config by hand now that I have been digging at it so much
[01:03] <slvmchn> how do i specify the master soundcard in ubuntu? i installed a PCI card in addition to audio, and dapper constantly defaults to the PCI one, when i actually only use that one with jack for mixing stuff... a lot of my programs are defaulting to the delta1010 interface instead of the onboard, because in the system settings -> sound tab, it has delta1010 as default... changing it doesn't seem to be permanent, is there a file i can edit som
[01:03] <slvmchn> ewhere?
[01:04] <slvmchn> it's just a pain when i have to troubleshoot games every time i run them, because the system tells them to use alsa with the interface
[01:04] <meson_ray> if i want to stick all of my binary files on a different (non-blank) partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?
[01:04] <chromium6> but ati drivers and fglrx fail to fire up DRI. I can get the xv extention working with aticonfig
[01:05] <herc1> how to set up my tv-out ?
[01:07] <chromium6> I have given up on fglrx and just tryed loading up DRM module and the radeon driver but I can't get it to support RV280
[01:07] <chromium6>  RADEON: Chipset "rv280" in Device section "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] " isn't valid for this driver
[01:09] <porkpie> When are we going to get a release that installs on the Dell 1950 with out any disk dtection issues ??????
[01:10] <unknown> people is it good to "home" on a separate partition?
[01:11] <Shish> unknown: normally, yes; that way you can reinstall the system partition and leave your personal files alone
[01:11] <morrye> How do you install a printer on ubuntu?
[01:11] <kzm> Is mirrored logical volumes supported in LVM2 now?  (lvcreate -m ..)
[01:11] <erUSUL> morrye: System Admin Printers
[01:11] <kzm> morrye, plug it in, and use the gnome printer adm tool.  Do *not* try to use the CUPS web front end.
[01:11] <Jaak_> !offtopic
[01:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:12] <kzm> (at least, I couldn't manage to get it to work)
[01:12] <chromium6> in both fglrx and radeon support ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP) but how ever mine is PCI could that be my issue?
[01:12] <sfp|torro> !win32codecs
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <meson_ray> check the ubuntu docs for win32codecs
[01:13] <meson_ray> there's information online
[01:13] <unknown>  now i have only 2 partitions: swap and root, how can i move "home" to a new partition?
[01:13] <unknown> Shish, ?
[01:13] <josh_> what program(s) would i need to get in order to stream my music? (something similiar to winamp/shoutcast in windows)
[01:14] <Jaak_> Is there a gnome versionthinhy like KBleutoothD - meta server?
[01:14] <Xappe> josh_: icecast maybe
[01:14] <kzm> unknown, mount /dev/hdXN /mnt; cp -a /home /tmp/; rm -rf /home/*; umount /mnt; mount /dev/hdXN /home (some caution advised)
[01:15] <unknown> kzm, is there a web site where i can learn to do that?
[01:15] <josh_> rgr
[01:15] <kzm> unknown, probably, but I have no particular suggestions.  Perhaps a good book on Unix?
[01:15] <meson_ray> sfp|torro:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:16] <chromium6> ok brb going to try and fire up my gfx card again
[01:17] <_stippi_> hi, I installed the KDE and Xfce desktop environment along the default Gnome desktop, how can I change the boot+shutdown screen logos and the login screen back to the default Ubuntu theme?
[01:19] <Jaak_> how do  i make a doc/folder hidden in nautilus?
[01:22] <CosmoDad> Jaak_: preceeding its name with a dot should suffice
[01:24] <chromium6> yeah same deal (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  drmOpen failed
[01:26] <chromium6> radeon loads but fails to recognize my chip set and when I use the binary from ATI it loads but they stopped supporting the 9200 series, and when I use the binary from ubuntu the drm module fails to load fglrx
[01:28] <chromium6> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[01:28] <chromium6> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
[01:28] <chromium6> ermm???? I dont get that one. the device is there
[01:28] <chromium6> crap it was
[01:28] <chromium6> nm brb
[01:29] <Arafangion> I've just installed network-manager-gnome, but it doesn't appear to work (I assume that the panel widget is supposed to display a list of networks one can connect to, but it's completely empty)
[01:30] <voraistos> hello guys. i have a ubuntu server Mysql related problem: it seems when i want to set up password for host it wont work.
[01:30] <voraistos> mysqladmin -u root password yourrootsqlpassword -->> this seems to work fine
[01:31] <meson_ray> if i want to stick all of my binary files on a different (non-blank) partition, can i do that with a symbolic link or does it need to be hard, and are there any concerns with doing that?
[01:31] <voraistos> mysqladmin -h server1.example.com -u root password yourrootsqlpassword --> this doesnt
[01:32] <Arafangion> So, how do I get network-manager-gnome to work?
[01:32] <voraistos> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'server1.exemple.com' failed
[01:32] <voraistos> error: 'Host 'server1.exemple.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'
[01:32] <Arafangion> voraistos: I'm a postgresql guy, so I can't really suggest very much except to check your configuration.
[01:33] <Arafangion> voraistos: And afaik, by default "localhost" transparently uses bsd sockets instead, it's MySQL's way of duping you into believing that they are really fast.
[01:33] <Arafangion> (MySQL _is_ faster than Pg, but that's another issue altogether)
[01:34] <voraistos> Arafigion: the network manager should already be there. what do u want from it ?
[01:34] <voraistos> oops. sorry for ure name Arafangion
[01:34] <NET||abuse> hey guys, i have a window border sitting on top of everything from OOo, i've closed the app completely, but this border is just sittin there, can't do a thing to it.
[01:35] <NET||abuse> is there any way i can clear it off ??
[01:35] <Arafangion> voraistos: Well, it's not installed by default on Dapper.
[01:35] <NET||abuse> i think it was from a print dialog..
[01:35] <voraistos> Kill sum stuff
[01:35] <Arafangion> voraistos: So I installed it - but the icon on the gnome panel has an orange ! symbol, but I can't figure out what the heck that means.
[01:36] <voraistos> NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2 : its not that ? Arafangion
[01:36] <Arafangion> voraistos: I am quite confident that it's only the default in Etch.
[01:36] <Arafangion> voraistos: But yes, it's 0.6.2, now that it's installed.
[01:37] <voraistos> Arafangion: well, it was already there when i installed ;)
[01:37] <Arafangion> :)
[01:38] <voraistos> it actually doesnt work for me. it can only see the wired network. useless
[01:38] <Arafangion> My problem exactly.
[01:39] <unfknblvbl> we're here when you don't need us
[01:39] <voraistos> usually it is very busy around here .........................
[01:39] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: But we _do_ need you :(
[01:39] <voraistos> yes we do !
[01:39] <unfknblvbl> yeh i know
[01:40] <unfknblvbl> but my point was.. dw
[01:40] <voraistos> damn it! i am sure even on #Debian there is more people !
[01:40] <Arafangion> unfknblvbl: We need someone to talk to, who's not an MS fanatic, after we've spent two freaking days trying to get MS Access databases to work in VB.NET.
[01:40] <unfknblvbl> and btw i got no clue how to solve your problem
[01:40] <unfknblvbl> sorry i got no idea
[01:40] <Arafangion> voraistos: I'd probably join #mysql first, and check the mysql website for any faq's.
[01:41] <tuxub> i am trying to rsync some stuff from one server to another keeping the permissions but the destination always get the username uid of the rsync login inserted. how can i solve this?
[01:41] <voraistos> Arafangion: i feel it is not a Mysql problem
[01:41] <Arafangion> tuxub: What is the command?
[01:41] <dragonfire1> GM
[01:41] <Arafangion> voraistos: How's that?
[01:41] <voraistos> i dunno
[01:42] <Arafangion> dragonfire1: Hmm?
[01:42] <voraistos> i feel it is a dns problem or something like that
[01:42] <tuxub> rsync --force --ignore-errors --delete-excluded --delete --progress --stats --numeric-ids -a /srv/ $BSERVER::$USER/$FOLDER/srv/
[01:42] <tuxub> i think my problem is in the server configuration
[01:42] <Arafangion> tuxub: What about, _anything_ related to preserving permissions?
[01:43] <tuxub> isn't this it: --numeric-ids ?
[01:43] <voraistos> wow. /me saw 5 guys on #debian! yeah !
[01:43] <Arafangion> tuxub: See man rsync, search for "preserve"
[01:43] <tuxub> and -a is to enable archive mode, preserving permissions ?
[01:44] <tuxub> it says in the man rsync to use the -a option for preserving permissions
[01:44] <Arafangion> tuxub: You're correct, actually.
[01:44] <herc1> how can i give premisions on any fail to be opened with no root
[01:44] <tuxub> so, the problem must be in the server config, dont you think?
[01:45] <Arafangion> Tristan: Perhaps.  Perhaps.
[01:45] <Arafangion> Been too long since I've done rsync, right now I'm just bitter with VB.NET crap.
[01:47] <voraistos> :'(
[01:47] <xav> isn't it time for americans to wake up ?
[01:47] <xav> and europeans should be done eating
[01:48] <voraistos> nope. i didnt eat yet
[01:48] <xav> (though I'm not)
[01:48] <xav> :d
[01:48] <voraistos> and the americans, after a long night on #ubuntu, cant get up early
[01:49] <pty> i'm european and still deciding what to have for breakfast
[01:49] <tuxub> Arafangion, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/799987
[01:49] <voraistos> hehe so do I :P
[01:49] <xav> rofl
[01:49] <eXistenZ> Euros > Americans
[01:49] <CroX> Say I wanted to search through a directory, with subdirs, after all files containing the string "asdf". How could I do that?
[01:49] <xav> you don't work?
[01:49] <pty> i start my new job on monday, having a bit of a break
[01:49] <xav> CromagDK, find /path/to/dir/ | xargs grep asdf
[01:50] <voraistos> xav i am a student. i dont need to go to uni, they dont even have ubuntu !
[01:50] <tuxub> voraistos, lol
[01:50] <xav> me they have fedora
[01:50] <pty> unlucky. at my uni they made us use rh9
[01:50] <xav> I don't care, as long as I'm not forced to use windows
[01:50] <voraistos> damn. i am a computing student, and they all are running windows. i even get free win licenses !
[01:51] <voraistos> and visual studio.net licenses as well and stuff i dont xare about
[01:51] <tuxub> voraistos, same here :(
[01:51] <voraistos> tuxub: lets kill ourselves to join BillGates' Hell(aka linux paradise)
[01:52] <tuxub> :)
[01:52] <pty> unfortunately thats why uk universities churn out a load of MS only developers who think that anything that isnt VS is crap
[01:53] <voraistos> so we all are in the UK ?
[01:53] <pty> <-Manchester
[01:53] <pty> don't diss beans on toast!
[01:53] <voraistos> Stafford. Need to kill myself.
[01:55] <xav> are there big city without cars ?
[01:55] <xav> that's the place where I want to go
[01:56] <voraistos> hmmmmmm. maybe in african countries
[01:56] <wickedpuppy> xav, north korea ?
[01:56] <voraistos> xav: they have no cars but tanks in north korea. and no beans nor toast
[01:57] <xav> hey, that's even worse
[01:57] <pty> i guess holland is decent cos even though theres loads of cars nearly every road has a bick track next to it
[01:57] <pty> bike*
[01:57] <xav> ah cool
[01:57] <voraistos> yeah. holland is nice; and in holland, pedestrian have rights too.
[01:58] <pty> and dutch ladies are pretty damn good lookin :)  must be all the cycling
[01:58] <xav> ok I'm going to holland then
[01:58] <pty> chips and maynoaise ftw too
[01:59] <voraistos> xav u might want to go to sweden as well; i dunno about the girls, but i know about the computing stuff :)
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> holland is below sea level ... hope you know how to swim when tides go up ...
[01:59] <xav> I'll just take my kayak
[01:59] <voraistos> wickedpuppy: not everywhere
[02:00] <xav> much better than swimming :)
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> true .. not everywhere clearly ... but most part .. no ?
[02:00] <xav> really, I also need moutains somewhere to go skiing
[02:01] <buzzy-> hello ubuntu friends!
[02:01] <pty> hi buzzy-
[02:02] <buzzy-> pty, how are you?
[02:02] <chamo> hello
[02:02] <dondong> hi,young lads
[02:02] <pty> still thinking about what i want for breakfast
[02:03] <elmargol> Hi i Search a way so force an application to a specific sound device (ALSA).
[02:03] <dondong> iv just had my dinner
[02:03] <elmargol> to force
[02:03] <voraistos> i could take my yacht. I mean, the day i have a yacht
[02:03] <buzzy-> pty, breakfast?? O_O  i just have had lunch!!
[02:03] <pty> elmargol: what application?
[02:03] <elmargol> pty: banshee
[02:05] <dondong> any1 know where to find linux games,not demo
[02:05] <elmargol> dondong: www.holarse.net
[02:05] <dondong> is it for free elmargol?
[02:06] <elmargol> dondong: it is a german list of games avaiable for linux
[02:06] <dondong> i see it
[02:06] <zircx> guys, I'm running an FX6600 nvidia card, is there an easy howto on installing the nvidia drivers for this particular card?
[02:06] <dondong> thanx
[02:07] <cs02rm0_> zircx: have you tried the envy script?
[02:07] <zircx> haven't heard of the envy script at all, I'm very new to ubuntu
[02:07] <binary_goofy> hi room! can somebody help me in getting wine working on my system?
[02:07] <cs02rm0_> look here: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:07] <elmargol> dondong: http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[02:08] <zircx> cs02rm0_: thanks
[02:08] <cs02rm0_> np
[02:08] <dondong> elmargol,thanx,ill check it
[02:10] <binary_goofy> hi room! can somebody help me in getting wine working on my system?
[02:11] <unfknblvbl> hey
[02:14] <kyja> ok I have another ubuntu partition. and ubuntu on this partition, how can I mount the other one to rescue data. copy from old partition to this new one?
[02:14] <Orby> what do i need to do, to get my box to accept all incoming mail going to domain1 and forward it to user@domain2 on another server?
[02:14] <binary_goofy> can somebody pls help me in resolving wine errors?
[02:15] <oskude> kyja: "mount" is the command to mount partitions...
[02:15] <oskude> binary_goofy: wine doesnt have anything to do with ubuntu...
[02:15] <kyja> like sudo mount hda0
[02:16] <Orby> you need to tell it where to mount to
[02:16] <Orby> so sudo mount /dev/hdaX /somefolder
[02:16] <oskude> kyja: "man mount" can inform more
[02:16] <kyja> thx
[02:16] <oskude> kyja: but your on the right track
[02:17] <abionnnn> does anyone know how to get DRI working on an X700?
[02:17] <binary_goofy> oskude: i tried installing wine on my system. after installation, when i try to run it, gives me errors saying Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" and then terminates. so i guess in some way it has to do with the settings on my ubuntu system. thats why am here.
[02:17] <abionnnn> seemed to work ok with breezy, went back to mesa after I upgraded to dapper
[02:18] <oskude> binary_goofy: afaik, GLX has something to do with you graphic chip drivers...
[02:20] <davin_> Hi guys, I just installed Beryl which didnt seem to work, so I reverted everything back, but now my alt-tab doesnt work? how do I fix it?
[02:21] <binary_goofy> oskude: am running an asus V3800-magic, which uses a 32MB RIVA TNT2 chipset developed by NVIDIA. have the proper driver installed for it.
[02:21] <rubso> hey guys, i need help opening xvid video file, thanks.
[02:21] <Orby> anyone know how to get my box to accept mail from *@domain1 and forward it to another server at user@domain2
[02:21] <binary_goofy> oskude: display is not a problem with anything else. what could be the cause of this error?
[02:21] <oskude> binary_goofy: the only i can think is look in xorg.conf if the "glx" module is in there
[02:22] <orbin> rubso: what's the issue?
[02:22] <rubso> orbin: i've downloaded a tv show that requires xvid codec to run.
[02:22] <rubso> i tried using mplayer and xine, it doesn't play it.
[02:23] <davin_> My alt-tab borked, how do I reassign/fix it?
[02:23] <kothz> mah.  anyone use an x-based irc client they actually like?
[02:23] <unfknblvbl> gaim
[02:23] <oskude> kothz: xchat
[02:24] <orbin> rubso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:24] <yama> kothz: I can think of a few: xchat, xchat-gnome, konversation...
[02:25] <mneptok> rubso: you want the FFMPEG codecs for GStreamer
[02:25] <binary_goofy> oskude: you were right. GLX module not found in xorg.conf. how do i work around this problem?
[02:25] <rubso> oh, ok i'll try to install it right now
[02:26] <oskude> binary_goofy: i got 'Load    "glx"' under 'Section "Module"'
[02:26] <oskude> binary_goofy: but im not sure if "nv" driver supports that (if youre using that driver)
[02:27] <kyja> keeps complaining it cant find it in fstab or mtab :/
[02:27] <binary_goofy> oskude: am using the nvidia driver given by ubuntu as an update. so i add that to the module section? and restart X? or is there something else to do?
[02:27] <wladston> guys, I've changed my video card, and now x wont start ... I'm on IRC at the command line!
[02:27] <wladston> anyone can help ?
[02:28] <oskude> binary_goofy: dunno, you gotta try
[02:29] <davin_> wladston: what card?
[02:29] <oskude> wladston: what driver do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and what card/chip do you have ?
[02:29] <wladston> well, I had a nvidea gforce 4000 pci ...
[02:29] <kyja> ahhh
[02:29] <davin_> wladston: your new one..
[02:29] <wladston> now I've installed a
[02:29] <oskude> wladston: or you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and pick "nv" driver
[02:29] <wladston> Power Color ati radeon 9550 agp
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> ati ?
[02:30] <wladston> yeah
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> ati support for linux sux ... pls complain to them
[02:30] <oskude> wladston: in that case select "radeon" (or fglrx, after installing the driver)
[02:30] <binary_goofy> oskude: thanks. wil try. God bless.
[02:30] <rubso> mneptok: all the media players i have with extra codecs gives me an error msg that says : No demuxer found, stream format not recognised.
[02:30] <wladston> okskude : I'll try ...
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> you are the customer now .. you got the right to make hell of a noise
[02:30] <wladston> hold on ...
[02:30] <davin_> oskude: can you help me? my alt-tab doesnt work and I need to fix/reassign it (using gnome)
[02:31] <boink> !easysource
[02:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:31] <rubso> orbin: check out my last msg
[02:31] <oskude> davin_: didnt even know you can "break" it ;) sorry, never had such problem...
[02:31] <wladston> arght ... I can't scrool up to see the command i have to enter!
[02:32] <davin_> wladston: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:32] <mneptok> rubso: did you install the ffmpeg codecs for gstreamer?
[02:32] <wladston> thanks! Just found anyways ... pgip and pgdown :)
[02:32] <rubso> yes
[02:32] <mneptok> rubso: then maybe that file is corrupted or otherwise problematic
[02:33] <rubso> its working under windows
[02:33] <mneptok> and what does Windows tell you about it?
[02:33] <davin_> how do I reassign alt+tab to do the window-switch thingy that it normally does?
[02:33] <rubso> with VLC too, but no luck under linux.
[02:33] <mneptok> how is the video encoded? how is the sound encoded?
[02:33] <oskude> davin_: have you tried to restart x ? (maybe you killed the process, or such)
[02:34] <rubso> mneptok: xvid Video, and its a HIGH resolution video, HD.
[02:34] <davin_> oskude: hmm ill try, i just uninstalled all my beryl/xgl stuff
[02:34] <kyja> haha I got it =] 
[02:34] <mneptok> rubso: and the audio?
[02:34] <rubso> i don't know anything about the audio
[02:34] <mneptok> rubso: mp3? aac? what?
[02:34] <rubso> i really don't know
[02:35] <mneptok> try install gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[02:35] <rubso> ok
[02:35] <mneptok> *installing
[02:35] <wladston> auch ... now it's asking the video card bus identifier ....
[02:36] <rubso> mneptok: its already installed.
[02:36] <wladston> i really wonder what i have to type in ...
[02:36] <wladston> maybe AGP:1:0:0 ?
[02:36] <boink> does ubuntu desktop already install openoffice?
[02:36] <Rico> boink: yes
[02:37] <kothz> wladston: do an 'lspci' and look for your video card... it'll have a PCI:x:x:x type address
[02:37] <boink> ta
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> yes
[02:37] <wladston> we'll, i'm going to try .... maybe it works ....
[02:38] <wladston> ahn ... there is an lspci command ....
[02:38] <boink> it's quite handy
[02:38] <boink> also handy is /proc as well
[02:38] <xiaochuan> All used KYLIN?!
[02:40] <kristian> I just installed edgy and compiled a custom kernel and now the computer just stalls after the kernel is done booting, any suggestions?
[02:40] <davin> hey I know why it didnt work, cause I used startx instead of turning on the PC :)
[02:40] <stangaroo> hi guys
[02:40] <boink> kristian: how did you many your own kernel?
[02:40] <boink> using make-dpkg?
[02:40] <wladston> now what ? Use the PCI:1:0:0 or the PCI:1:0:1 ???
[02:40] <kristian> boink, no i built it with just make and then edited menu.lst my self
[02:40] <davin> cheers oksude
[02:40] <wladston> both maps to my video card
[02:41] <stangaroo> anyone know how i can switch off my mouse pad on my  thinkpad?
[02:41] <kristian> boink, I have runed custom kernels for years and never had a problem like this
[02:41] <boink> did you make an image file?
[02:41] <diminthedam> hello. i have the following messages when trying to install glib: 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.10.3 was found! What do i do about it?
[02:41] <kristian> boink, yes /usr/src/linux-2.6.18/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
[02:41] <boink> no, for booting
[02:42] <oskude> davin: nice to hear that it works :) (next time use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart")
[02:42] <kristian> boink, no, do I have to?
[02:42] <davin> quick question, when I try do dd my harddrive (if) it totally fills my usb harddisk (off) to the max, why? should be a ~5gb image not 160gb
[02:42] <davin> oskude: *adds to notes*
[02:42] <boink> yes, initrd image file
[02:42] <boink> it's maybe getting stuck there on the booting
[02:42] <boink> ever made a custom kernel the debian way as well?
[02:42] <kristian> boink, isn't that just if you have scsi controllers or other drivers that needs to be loaded built as modules?
[02:42] <boink> it's quite handy
[02:42] <Stevo> who would be willing to help with a networking issue?
[02:43] <boink> dunno kristian .. it's hard for me to tell
[02:43] <kristian> boink, I don't have any special hardware and I've booted this kernel .config with breezy
[02:43] <boink> but with make-kpg that's a very good way to ma your own kernel
[02:43] <boink> s/ma/make/
[02:43] <kristian> boink, i'll check into that
[02:44] <boink> did breezy use a 2.4 or a 2.6 kernel?
[02:44] <poncho__1> Stevo u need to ask the question
[02:44] <kristian> boink, how do I make a initrd package?
[02:44] <oskude> davin: cause youre dd'ing the whole partition ? (inluding "empty" bits)
[02:44] <boink> there's a make-initrd tool somewhere
[02:44] <Stevo> poncho> there's a few questions...
[02:44] <kristian> boink, I used the same 2.6.18 kernel with breezy, just copied the .config file to my new edgy install
[02:44] <poncho__1> Stevo ok start with one at time
[02:44] <Stevo> poncho> i've been trying for months to get wireless working, to no avail.
[02:45] <boink> but remember, edgy is extreme bleedying edge. the pain factor is higher
[02:45] <Stevo> which i've found can be a common problem.
[02:45] <davin> oskude: ah, well I did like 'sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/usbdisk/backup/system/imagefile'
[02:45] <boink> installing breezer is really nice
[02:45] <diminthedam> i have question about instalilng glib. can anyone help?
[02:45] <kristian> boink, yes, I have edgy running on my workstation at home also with a custom kernel but I've installed it a couple of weeks ago
[02:45] <boink> ok
[02:46] <BuzZy> !grip
[02:46] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[02:46] <BuzZy> !rip
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <BuzZy> !ripper
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ripper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <Stevo> anyhow, what conf files do i need to modify in order to get everything working?  i had it working one time, only with security turned off, and after reboot, i can't connect or anything.  net-mngr says there's no signal.
[02:46] <oskude> davin: hmm, i would think /media just a place for mount points, but... (do you really need sudo to copy your usbstick?)
[02:46] <poncho__1> Stevo did u do some looking in the ubuntu forums
[02:46] <Stevo> only for the last 3 months
[02:47] <Stevo> lol
[02:47] <poncho__1> !wireless
[02:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:47] <Stevo> if you wanna pm i can copy/paste some readouts from the cli..
[02:47] <oskude> davin: and iirc, usbdisk are mounted (automaticly) to /media/usbdisk, so plese dont do any directores there :/
[02:47] <boink> !imap
[02:47] <esku> lol
[02:47] <Stevo> i've been there, that's why i'm here.
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <boink> !sylpheed
[02:48] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 551 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[02:48] <GoreHat> buenas
[02:48] <poncho__1> Stevo i wont be any help for u but some of these people might be able to help
[02:48] <wladston> finally, the operation finished .... I wonder if it will work :(
[02:48] <GoreHat> alguien me puede ayudar?
[02:48] <Stevo> don't worry about it.  i can't run the network w/out WEP turned on anyway.
[02:48] <poncho__1> dont use wireless here
[02:48] <boink> GoreHat: no hablo espanol aqui
[02:48] <kothz> steve: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[02:48] <wladston> i wonder why it has to be SO complicated to swich vdeo cards...
[02:49] <wladston> exit
[02:49] <boink> !tell GoreHat about es
[02:49] <Stevo> linksys wpc54g
[02:49] <stangaroo> 'lo anyone out there know how to switch off my mouse pad
[02:49] <davin> oskude: what do you mean? you mean that Its wrong that I did a mkdir when it was mounted?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> switch off mouse pad ?
[02:50] <kothz> steve: what have you done so far to get it working?
[02:50] <oskude> davin: sorry, i may impreted that wrong, as my usbisk is in /dev/sda1, but i assume your hd is there ?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> i thought mouse pad is a piece of rubber ...
[02:50] <Stevo> ndiswrapper to install driver.
[02:51] <BuzZy> can i run a gnome based program (grip) on kubuntu?
[02:51] <Gosty> Hi!!! can somedy help me with DNS? i need help with file named.conf.options and set apache for working with the new domain i don't know what i must type in allow-query can somebody help?
[02:51] <kothz> stevo: *shudders at ndiswrapper* :)
[02:51] <Stevo> played around with /etc/network/interfaces
[02:51] <oskude> BuzZy: yes
[02:51] <davin> oskude: yep, I got a s-ata hdd
[02:51] <Stevo> kothz> what else is there?
[02:51] <BuzZy> how?
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, sure ... i run k3b in gnome
[02:51] <BuzZy> oskude, how can i?
[02:51] <boink> apache is done in the httpd.conf or in the apache.conf
[02:51] <kothz> stevo: i've got a linksys wireless card, running with the native broadcom drivers
[02:51] <oskude> BuzZy: by installing it and running it...
[02:51] <boink> named.conf is only for the name server, bind
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, install ?
[02:51] <BuzZy> lol
[02:51] <BuzZy> :D
[02:52] <kothz> steveo: sec
[02:52] <BuzZy> thouth it needed an emulator
[02:52] <BuzZy> :D
[02:52] <Stevo> kothz> really..?
[02:52] <BuzZy> so i can run grip?
[02:52] <BuzZy> right!!
[02:52] <BuzZy> how can i install grip? there aren't any rep!!
[02:52] <oskude> davin: dd if=/dev/sda1 will copy the whole partition, not just the (5gb) of used data...
[02:52] <berent> what is grip for
[02:52] <oskude> !enter
[02:52] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, sudo apt-get install grip ...
[02:52] <Stevo> i believe it's a DNS issue on my part
[02:52] <Riotta> use sound juicer
[02:52] <davin> oskude: whoa I didnt know that, so how do I copy my 'filled' space?
[02:53] <boink> !mp3
[02:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:53] <Riotta> better than grip imo
[02:53] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy, no result
[02:53] <boink> can the ubuntu xmms play mp3s?
[02:53] <oskude> davin: cp, would be the "normal" copy command... but there are others "better" for backuping... maybe start with "rsync"
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, no result means nothing to us ... error message is ?
[02:53] <davin> oskude: okay ill look on into it, cheers mate :-)
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> pls pls pls pls give us something to work .... i beg of you ...
[02:54] <Gosty> Hi!!! can somedy help me with DNS? i need help with file named.conf.options and set apache for working with the new domain i don't know what i must type in allow-query can somebody help?
[02:54] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy, :
[02:54] <BuzZy> unknown@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search Grip
[02:54] <BuzZy> unknown@ubuntu:~$
[02:54] <BuzZy> ---------------
[02:54] <oskude> !info grip > BuzZy
[02:54] <ubotu> grip: GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 440 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[02:54] <boink> Gosty: I said already .. named.conf is only for the name server, bind
[02:54] <boink> you need to set up apache with the httpd.conf or the apache.conf
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, did you see my message ?
[02:54] <oskude> !repos > BuzZy
[02:55] <Gosty> boink: but i don't know what type as allow-query i have only local network
[02:55] <boink> though, you need to set up apache, no?
[02:55] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy, "impossible to find grip"
[02:55] <stangaroo> Anyone know where i can find linux+thinkpad FAQs?
[02:56] <boink> !laptop
[02:56] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:56] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy,  so i need a rep
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> now we are somewhere ... i believe the bot has message ya .. pls kindly add the repos :P
[02:56] <stangaroo> ubotu: Ta!
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ta! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, the bot has messaged you .. no ?
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> stangaroo, ubotu is a bot ..
[02:56] <oskude> BuzZy: grip is in "universe" repo, activate it and youre off... (ubotu told you how)
[02:56] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy,  ok but how can i know what rep i need?
[02:56] <boink> you can still thank it :)
[02:56] <stangaroo> lol
[02:57] <BuzZy> ok oskude
[02:57] <whitedeth> man something's really screwed up with my clock settings
[02:57] <BuzZy> tnx
[02:57] <Gosty> boink: i have in allow-query block now this: 127.0.0.1; 10.1.14.106  (my ip adress in the local network) is it ok?
[02:57] <whitedeth> is there a way to change the time via terminal?
[02:57] <stangaroo> ubotu: thank you
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <stangaroo> hehehe
[02:57] <whitedeth> !time
[02:57] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, while ya there pls add the multiverse too ...
[02:57] <whitedeth> !clock
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <davin> is there like a graphical file manager for the console?
[02:57] <boink> sounds fine, but I don't know what you're trying to do exactly?
[02:57] <oskude> whitedeth: date
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> !botabuse
[02:57] <whitedeth> !snack
[02:57] <StAfZe6> sup?
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[02:57] <BuzZy> ok wickedpuppy
[02:57] <BuzZy> tnx
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> whitedeth, pls stop that
[02:57] <whitedeth> botabuse? :\
[02:57] <davin> something like norton commander
[02:58] <whitedeth> im trying to figure out what it is for time.
[02:58] <oskude> davin: i heard, "midnight commander" would be such, but never used..
[02:58] <boink> davin: midnight-commander works fine
[02:58] <whitedeth> !date
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <boink> looks just like norton commander
[02:58] <davin> boink, oskude: cheers
[02:58] <whitedeth> bleh :(
[02:58] <oskude> whitedeth: type "man date" in terminal
[02:58] <whitedeth> so there's no way to change the time via terminal? :\
[02:58] <whitedeth> oh, cheers.
[02:58] <boink> whitedeth: ntpdate
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> whitedeth, pls do not flood the channel using the bot .. if you need help pls ask
[02:59] <oskude> whitedeth: you can talk "privately" with the bot by typing "/msg ubout foobar"
[03:00] <Gosty> boink: please type before message my nick...................and i have this problem: my PC name in the network is gosty-pc and ip adress 10.1.14.106 and i want to have something like mysql.gosty-pc ftp.gosty-pc   only for users in the network understand me?
[03:00] <SuperSub> anyone no how to install quicktime plugin?
[03:00] <boink> Gosty: sure, that you do in the named.conf in Bind
[03:00] <boink> or you could put that in your /etc/hosts file too
[03:00] <oskude> SuperSub: maybe you should say plugin for what...
[03:01] <SuperSub> quicktime movies?
[03:01] <mneptok> boink: you'd have to add them to every hosts file on every machine
[03:01] <boink> yes .. that's why they invented dns :)
[03:01] <mneptok> 'zackly
[03:01] <Gosty> boink: oooh someone told me that i must change named.conf and have domain gosty-pc.lan
[03:01] <whitedeth> Everytime I bring up the clock/date settings to adjust them, the window crashes :\
[03:01] <boink> in the old days, you had to download the latest host file :P
[03:01] <whitedeth> every single time.
[03:01] <Gosty> boink: can i write with you by private?
[03:01] <boink> sorry, I'm a little busy at the moment
[03:01] <boink> !bind
[03:01] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (dapper), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[03:02] <mneptok> Gosty: you make sure BIND is installed and running, read through some named.conf examples you find on Google, and then use that machine as the DNS server for all the machines on your network.
[03:02] <boink> there are a lot of web resources on bind, Gosty
[03:02] <oskude> !quicktime > SuperSub
[03:02] <SuperSub> yes
[03:02] <boink> whitedeth: do you want to set the time correctly on your PC?
[03:02] <whitedeth> boink: Yes
[03:02] <boink> the nerd way of doing that is using ntpdate
[03:03] <boink> !ntpdate
[03:03] <whitedeth> It's an hour behind thanks to daylight savings.
[03:03] <ubotu> ntpdate: The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is important. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 160 kB
[03:03] <davin> also, is there something like a address bar for nautilus? (like konqueror-style)
[03:03] <mneptok> boink: the nerd way of doing it is with ntpd ;)
[03:03] <whitedeth> ill get that
[03:03] <boink> you need the closest time server
[03:03] <oskude> SuperSub: i assume you want a quicktime plugin for a video player, read what ubotu send you
[03:03] <Gosty> boink: oh no the boy told me something really another
[03:03] <Gosty> boink: i'm so confused now
[03:03] <boink> heh, ntpd :) of course
[03:03] <mneptok> Gosty: what boy?
[03:03] <whitedeth> 4 Oct 13:03:38 ntpdate[22276] : no servers can be used, exiting
[03:03] <SuperSub> ok
[03:03] <boink> what's the closest time server for you?
[03:04] <SuperSub> ;)
[03:04] <whitedeth> how would I find out?
[03:04] <mneptok> whitedeth: sudo ntpdate time.berkeley.netdot.net
[03:04] <Gosty> mneptok: BlueEagle from #xubuntu
[03:04] <boink> well, where are you?
[03:04] <_stippi_> hi, I installed the KDE and Xfce desktop environment along the default Gnome desktop, how can I change the boot+shutdown screen logos and the login screen back to the default Ubuntu theme?
[03:04] <whitedeth> new zealand
[03:04] <boink> ok .. google the closest list from google: time server new zealand
[03:04] <whitedeth> lol, now it's UK time here, thanks mneptok :P
[03:04] <boink> like I would use: ntpdate ntp.demon.co.uk
[03:05] <mneptok> whitedeth: sudo ntpdate ntp.iprolink.co.nz
[03:05] <boink> kewl :)
[03:05] <DivineAnt> Can anyone help me with sources.list syntax, i need tercap-compat in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe but either way i add it, it searches in the dists folder
[03:05] <boink> then set up ntpd to keep the time
[03:05] <oskude> _stippi_: just a wild guess: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop (but i would wait if theres a "better" solution)
[03:05] <boink> there's nothing like having the wrong time on the computer .. how horrible!
[03:05] <_stippi_> oskude: thanks
[03:05] <mneptok> whitedeth: .nz public stratum 2 NTP servers are here - http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock2a.html
[03:06] <_stippi_> whitedeth: where in new zealand are you?
[03:06] <davin> got it, ctrl+L
[03:06] <oskude> DivineAnt: maybe this can help http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:06] <whitedeth> Auckland
[03:06] <boink> ideally you want to use the timeserver closest to you
[03:07] <whitedeth> will it change the time instantaneously? Cos it doesnt seem to be changing anything.
[03:07] <_stippi_> whitedeth: cool I will be visiting NZ / Auckland for half a year
[03:07] <whitedeth> _stippi_: This place sucks :)
[03:07] <whitedeth> Yep, time isnt changing at all. It's getting the right time from the servers, just not changing anything.
[03:07] <boink> whitedeth: it just gives yuor system the proper time
[03:07] <oskude> DivineAnt: my line looks like this "deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse"
[03:08] <whitedeth> boink: And how is one to force the system to use that time as the correct time?
[03:08] <_stippi_> whitedeth: yeah right, you want to keep it for yourself...
[03:08] <boink> then you would use ntpd to keep the time always correct
[03:08] <boink> ntpd will poll the timeserver ever so often to get the right system time
[03:08] <whitedeth> _stippi_: Actually, I hate it so much im leaving at the end of this year!
[03:08] <_stippi_> Does anyone know where to obtain a Polymere theme package installable on Dapper?
[03:09] <_stippi_> whitedeth: You mean somewhere else in NZ?
[03:09] <krang> dammit, why won't gnomebaker try to burn CDs with my CD-R drive instead of my DVD-ROM?
[03:09] <whitedeth> boink: Fine with me, but how do I do it? It still says 1:09PM in the tray while it's actually 2:04 AM.
[03:09] <whitedeth> _stippi_: Nope, going to Australia.
[03:09] <boink> what does "date" say?
[03:09] <mneptok> whitedeth: you probably have the incorrect time zone set
[03:09] <whitedeth> Oct 4
[03:10] <boink> what time? "date" gives system time
[03:10] <whitedeth> mneptok: No way to change it though since it just crashes everytime I try changing anytime.
[03:10] <Gosty> mneptok: so what should i do? reinstall bind?
[03:10] <mneptok> whitedeth: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/NZ /etc/localtime
[03:10] <dragonfire1> who will help me get through this install this morning
[03:10] <oskude> _stippi_: looked in kde-look.org ?
[03:10] <diminthedam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25650/
[03:10] <Khamael> is there a way to get xen working in dapper?
[03:10] <highneko> When I change my workspace, the name of it is displayed. How can I stop this?
[03:10] <dragonfire1> I'm in prepare disk I have 4 partions on the HD
[03:10] <whitedeth> boink "Thu Oct  5 02:10:13 NZDT 2006". Perfect. "date" gives the correct time but the tray has it all wrong.
[03:10] <mneptok> Gosty: is BIND actually installed?
[03:11] <Gosty> mneptok: i installed bin9 and bind_utilities
[03:11] <oskude> diminthedam: would help if you post the _whole_ error... with the command that causes it...
[03:11] <whitedeth> boink: Why is the tray showing it wrong? :\
[03:11] <krang> Has anyone else had gnomebaker problems? I select one drive, and it tries to burn with the other
[03:12] <diminthedam> oskude: it was a 'make command' with heaps of output. should i give the command i ran and error, or the whole thing?
[03:12] <oskude> diminthedam: did you do "./configure" first ?
[03:12] <boink> whitedeth: heh, then it could be something in gnome.
[03:12] <whitedeth> wow.
[03:12] <boink> sadly I'm not a gnome expert, I'm learning too :)
[03:12] <diminthedam> oskude: yes, i mean ./configure
[03:13] <boink> I've always used windowmaker
[03:13] <whitedeth> suddenly one day I wake up and gnome is all screwed??
[03:13] <boink> let's hope not
[03:13] <whitedeth> So windows screws up when you install something...but Linux is worse...it just screws up on it's own?!
[03:13] <whitedeth> wow.
[03:13] <boink> but at least the time on your box seems in order now
[03:13] <oskude> diminthedam: did you install "build-essential" package ?
[03:13] <whitedeth> the time isnt "in order" untill it shows it correctly.
[03:13] <KenSentMe> Why can't i see the userrights of files when i connect to a ftp server in nautilus?
[03:13] <mneptok> Gosty: so then all you have to do is edit /etc/bind/named.conf and create /etc/bind/local.zone and put the correct entries in those. you'll be making a network called "local.zone" and creating entries for "foo.local.zone" and "bar.local.zone" and then setting the other machines to use this machine as their DNS server
[03:14] <mneptok> Gosty: i think you should spend some time reading about BIND before doing anything, though.
[03:15] <diminthedam> oskude: yes
[03:15] <oskude> diminthedam: btw, what are you compiling ? sure its nowhere in ubuntu repo ?
[03:15] <highneko> When I open a program in gnome an outline of the windows is displayed. Can I stop that?
[03:15] <nuku> hi which is the best repository to get win32codecs and such for edgy? use seveas dapper repos or is there an actual edgy repository?
[03:15] <diminthedam> oskude: i am compiling gaim-vv. couldnt find it in reps. had to install glib-2 first, it told me
[03:16] <oskude> diminthedam: hmm, whats gaim-vv ? i hope you didnt compile glib to /usr
[03:17] <mneptok> oskude: gaim-vv is like gaim, but with more v's for your pleasuring.
[03:17] <oskude> diminthedam: and the latest news i see is from "Oct 07, 2005" at http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/ ...
[03:18] <sam_k> When I right click to create a new document it give me a option to load premade templates, where do I make these templates?
[03:18] <oskude> diminthedam: and this http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html says "Please don't expect it to work." ;)
[03:19] <diminthedam> oskude: gaim-vv is for video conf. i compiled glib with ./configure, make and make install. thats it. i see the news...
[03:19] <sureshot> hey can someone tell me how to make this file an executable file /home/sureshot/Desktop/cedega_timedemo_installer.
[03:19] <oskude> diminthedam: and ekiga wont work for you ?
[03:20] <segfault> sureshot, chmod +x filename
[03:20] <sureshot> thanks
[03:20] <segfault> np
[03:20] <diminthedam> oskude: i need to conf with windows client. they cant get net meeting to run. i need something we both have. skype? no vid for linux
[03:21] <oskude> diminthedam: well, you better ask in gaim-vv forum/list/chat ...
[03:21] <diminthedam> oskude: tanks
[03:21] <hosenscheisser> #ubuntu-de
[03:22] <oskude> diminthedam: and did you read this ? "There will be no further gaim-vv releases, as code will be added to the main gaim program."
[03:22] <mneptok> diminthedam: Ekiga. that's what it's for.
[03:24] <oskude> diminthedam: do if you really need gaim (with video) you could try theis cvs/or such... but i would use ekiga...
[03:24] <BelialMkII> does Gaim support video?
[03:24] <BelialMkII> I though aMSN was the only IM client with that
[03:24] <Bazzi> every other im client has that :)
[03:26] <diminthedam> mneptok: maybe am super thick, but i=havent been able to join any server, when i can chat with a netmeeting person
[03:27] <BelialMkII> Ive resorted to running a Virtual amchine with win2k in it to use cam software, but thats casue the driver for my camera is pretty shoddy
[03:29] <mneptok> diminthedam: i thought your immediate need was A/V <-> NetMeeting
[03:29] <mneptok> diminthedam: in which case, i don't understand the "Ekiga only works with NetMeeting" problem
[03:29] <Arafangion> Kopete is supposed to be able to use cameras.
[03:32] <chris_> Hey, can I delete files in /var/cache/apt/archives ? The .deb files are taking up huge amounts of space...
[03:32] <frogzoo> /12
[03:32] <diminthedam> mneptok: i was hoping to do video conf with a netmeeting client
[03:32] <Bazzi> chris_: apt-get clean afaik
[03:32] <oskude> chris_: sudo apt-get clean
[03:32] <chris_> Thanks!
[03:32] <diminthedam> mneptok: thought giam-vv would work with their MSN
[03:33] <mneptok> diminthedam: like i said, use Ekiga
[03:33] <mneptok> "Ekiga (formely known as GnomeMeeting) is an open source VoIP and video conferencing application for GNOME. Ekiga uses both the H.323 and SIP protocols. It supports many audio and video codecs, and is interoperable with other SIP compliant software and also with Microsoft NetMeeting."
[03:33] <hc> hey
[03:33] <hc> i deleted /etc/init.d/samba
[03:33] <hc> how can i restore it?
[03:33] <boink> heh ... not a good idea there
[03:34] <unfknblvbl> what packages for vlc do i need to load to read .mov files properly ?
[03:34] <hc> boink: i know :p
[03:34] <dondong> hi,people,any1 can help with this:when install a game it echos:.setup7327: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:34] <unfknblvbl> !mov
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <oskude> hc: mybe with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install the-package-name-that-gives-that-file"
[03:34] <boink> !codecs
[03:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <mneptok> !quicktime
[03:34] <unfknblvbl> thats the word boink
[03:34] <unfknblvbl> ty
[03:34] <boink> asking about codecs is a common one
[03:34] <boink> there are patent/copyright issues
[03:35] <dondong> the problem is what is "libgtk-1.2.so.0"
[03:35] <raul> gnome-art isnt working it closes after selecting an item from menu. What is the reason behind this?
[03:35] <oskude> dondong: apt-file search libgtk-1.2.so.0 would show you which package(s) has that file
[03:36] <oskude> dondong: and i get "libgtk1.2" :)
[03:36] <unfknblvbl> i searched for mov in all 3 of those links
[03:36] <dondong> oh,oskude,ill try
[03:36] <unfknblvbl> but nothing >.<
[03:36] <hc> /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-common_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1_i386.deb /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.conffiles /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.config /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.md5sums /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.templates /usr/share/app-install/desktop/Xfsamba.desktop /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kcmsambaconf.desktop /usr/share/cups/doc-root/es
[03:36] <orbin> dondong: what game?
[03:36] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: .mov is usually QucikTime
[03:37] <dondong>  Alien Arena 2007
[03:37] <dondong> :>orbin
[03:37] <unfknblvbl> yeh
[03:37] <oskude> dondong: that must be a very old game ?
[03:37] <unfknblvbl> but innit quicktime apple/windoze ?
[03:37] <dondong> oskude,its  Alien Arena 2007
[03:38] <oskude> dondong: try installing libgtk1.2 "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"
[03:38] <dondong> yeah,im aptin'
[03:39] <dondong> k,done,thanx oskude,thanx all
[03:39] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: my point is, you should be using "apt-cache search quicktime" ;)
[03:39] <oskude> dondong: have fun :)
[03:39] <dondong> :>
[03:41] <unfknblvbl> i have mneptok
[03:41] <davidw> any idea why a bnx2 driver, compiled from stock 2.6.18 would not work (showing up as eth2 and eth3 instead of eth0 and eth1!?!?), whereas a fedora core 5 live CD does...?
[03:41] <unfknblvbl> i'm reading the SPM now
[03:41] <malix> hi all
[03:41] <Alakazam_> suppers
[03:42] <unfknblvbl> i installed quicktime-x11utils
[03:42] <unfknblvbl> but its missing video and audio codecs
[03:42] <BreaKIce>  I have added a .ppd file to /usr/share/cups/model/ and restarted cups, but the new driver doesn't show up in system-config-printer on centos 4? did i miss something?
[03:42] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: libquicktime0 - A library for reading and writing Quicktime files  <--- looks rather promising, eh? ;)
[03:42] <xamox> is it possible to disable ipv6?
[03:42] <Mehrdad> when's 6.10 coming?
[03:42] <oskude> !ipv6 > xamox
[03:43] <unfknblvbl> i've got it mneptok
[03:43] <dondong> hope it is not 6.12
[03:43] <malix> I find a bug on Firefox package  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840 but after 8 months the bug is still here. I wont help with the solution but I need someone interested
[03:43] <oskude> Mehrdad: when its done...
[03:43] <Mehrdad> when it's going to be done?:D
[03:43] <lexam> lol
[03:44] <lexam> Mehrdad if your impatient you can download the beta
[03:44] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: be aware, Apple changes their codecs about every 12 minutes, so libquicktime will allow playback of some stuff, but not every .mov you find.
[03:44] <lexam> but I wouldn't suggest it unless you report the bugs
[03:44] <Mehrdad> I did it, i'm curious about the final version
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[03:44] <lexam> AH
[03:44] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: exactly.
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> ty anyways
[03:44] <oskude> malix: ist that bug in "vanilla" fx too ?
[03:44] <lexam> How is the beta is it graphically different?
[03:44] <jay__> [help] How can i open a wmv file on a webpage with gmplay, it tells "New face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file(~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)", What is wrong? How can deal with it?
[03:45] <Mehrdad> the splash is so cool
[03:45] <DivineAnt> Mehrdad: Ubuntu has a six month release cycle, and dapper was released abot june, so ill guess about december
[03:45] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: if i ever snap and drive to Apple HQ with the RPG, i'll pick you up on the way.
[03:45] <Mehrdad> but other UI elements is same as dapper
[03:45] <unfknblvbl> haha ty mneptok
[03:45] <mneptok> 6.10 gets released at the end of this month.
[03:45] <unfknblvbl> the funny thing is i sell apple in my part time job
[03:45] <highneko> Is there any gnome program to backup everything?
[03:45] <britt> XML::Parser
[03:46] <Mehrdad> DivineAnt, 6.06 was LTS, that's why it took more, 6.10 will be october but when in october is my question
[03:46] <lexam> I can't wait, I'm debating on using the 64bit version or not.
[03:46] <britt> what module do I need?
[03:46] <unfknblvbl> their comps aren't bad for general use
[03:46] <jay__> [help] When i open a wmv file on a webpage with gmplayer, it tells "New face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file(~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)", What is wrong? How can deal with it?
[03:46] <jrib> jay__: install mplayer-fonts
[03:46] <malix> oskude I don't know
[03:47] <malix> how I can check?
[03:47] <britt> hey im trying to compile gaim and I need XML::Parser for perl
[03:47] <britt> which i dont have
[03:47] <oskude> malix: i mean, "ubuntu" doesnt "make" firefox... so try the "vanilla" fx and complain at mozilla...
[03:47] <Dimensions> how do icheck if my php is installed correctly ?
[03:47] <mneptok> britt: there may be a apckaged version via apt, or you could use CPAN
[03:47] <Dimensions> i did apt-get install php5
[03:47] <KenSentMe> Why can't i see the userrights of files when i connect to a ftp server in nautilus?
[03:48] <oskude> Dimensions: make a php file and open it
[03:48] <jrib> ubotu: tell Dimensions about lamp
[03:48] <britt> mneptok: i'm compiling the beta
[03:48] <oskude> Dimensions: ment "run" it
[03:48] <mneptok> britt: the beta of what?
[03:48] <xScrewballx> g-day
[03:48] <Dimensions> ya i have a file of php but can't open it ... in browser ...
[03:48] <Khamael> is it dangerous to use the nvidia beta drivers in dapper?
[03:48] <britt> mneptok: gaim
[03:48] <britt> version 2.0beta3
[03:48] <oskude> Dimensions: do you have a webserver running ?
[03:48] <xScrewballx> i'm having problems with video codecs
[03:48] <mneptok> britt: i meant xml::parser
[03:48] <britt> mneptok: it didnt specify
[03:49] <britt> i assume the newest version i can apt
[03:49] <xScrewballx> tryinf to get stup totem running installed w32codecs
[03:49] <mneptok> britt: you need xml:parser, yes?
[03:49] <britt> mneptok: yes
[03:49] <britt> :)
[03:49] <mneptok> ^^ britt: there may be a packaged version via apt, or you could use CPAN  ^^
[03:49] <britt> lol
[03:49] <britt> just use xml:parser?
[03:49] <malix> oskude I reported the bug to Mozilla also but the problem is on Ubuntu because the version downloaded from mozilla site work without problem
[03:49] <britt> in apt?
[03:50] <xScrewballx> now video's washed out/burnt and stupid totem still doesn't run
[03:50] <mneptok> britt: no, search apt for xml. does it have xml::parser for Perl? if not, install via CPAN.
[03:50] <xScrewballx> uninstalled w23codec and reinstalled vlc
[03:50] <oskude> malix: well, i heard of problems modyfing fx code... so maybe theres a fix, but they are not allowed to modify it ;)
[03:50] <xScrewballx> can anyone help?
[03:50] <malix> on the bug I also reported the difference that I have discovered between Firefox packaged by Ubuntu and the one distributed by Mozilla.org
[03:51] <oskude> malix: as you *have* to "verify" your fixes with fx-devs before you are allowed to modify the code and call it firefox...
[03:51] <britt> got it thx
[03:51] <britt> :)
[03:51] <Dimensions> oskude:  i isntalled apache2 but when i open localhost/hello.php it opens many browsers and says Forbidden u dont have permission to access /hello.php on this server and ..... at bottom it says Apache/1.3.34 at 127.0.0.1 Port 80 ?
[03:51] <mneptok> malix: if the problem is specific to an Ubuntu build you should report it on Launchpad
[03:51] <britt> shoudl have looked there first, i assumed apt wouldnt find it
[03:51] <Slim> hi
[03:51] <Wulong> Is there any form for Ubuntu mini install?
[03:52] <malix> oskude is I reported it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840
[03:52] <oskude> Dimensions: then make sure "www-data" user is allowed to read that file
[03:52] <BuzZy> !rep
[03:52] <ubotu> rep: lisp command interpreter frontends to librep. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-11ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 96 kB
[03:52] <BuzZy> !repository
[03:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:53] <oskude> sorry, cant help you more...
[03:53] <A[D] minS> where i can find amule 0.47c ?
[03:53] <AngryElf> hey all, when I putty(ssh) into my box I get color coding in the terminal but not in emacs -- any way around that?
[03:53] <Dimensions> oskude: how to do that ?
[03:54] <oskude> malix: maybe posting a usefull! site that doesnt work with that bug...
[03:54] <malix> oskude the bug is on every site
[03:55] <oskude> Dimensions: chmod is one way... but how about doing a dir "public_html" in your (not root) users home dir, and then you can access that at "http://localhost/~username"
[03:55] <oskude> malix: well, i have popups depressed, so i havent needed that "feature" never...
[03:56] <linopil> hi
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, still having problems with adding repo ?
[03:56] <malix> oskude just go to a site that have a link that open a popup click on link and the popup open the second time you click on it the popup remain in background
[03:57] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy,  no ;)
[03:57] <oskude> malix: well i hate popups (i open all in tabs)...
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> AngryElf, programming issit ?
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, glad to hear that :P
[03:57] <chromium6> I finally got radeon and drm modules to load for the xserver.  I show a good xv extension, any idea on how to enable DRI in opengl
[03:57] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy,  hehe
[03:57] <UKMatt> If I were trying to create a short .mpg or some kind of video file (from scratch) what software should I use?
[03:58] <malix> oskude so if you have the popup already opened click on a link it seems that doesn't work but the popup don't come in foreground
[03:59] <malix> oskude this doesn't happen with the package istributed by Mozilla
[03:59] <unfknblvbl> mneptok: mplayer works beautifully
[03:59] <Khamael> has anybody who uses the nvidia beta drivers har any problems with it and/or aiglx?
[03:59] <unfknblvbl> shame it had no simple gui
[03:59] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: smashing.
[04:00] <KenSentMe> Does anyone use the nautilus option to connect to an ftp server?
[04:00] <ALMimoni> hi, how can i see status for wget working in the background by terminal?
[04:00] <unfknblvbl> mneptok: i thought you would be excited
[04:00] <malix> oskude attention is not the popup blocked by popup blocker (that open automatically) but a popup requested by user
[04:00] <mneptok> KenSentMe: i haven't used ftp in years, really
[04:00] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: *almost* soiled myself. almost. ;)
[04:00] <str4nd> ARGH! ATi sucks
[04:00] <unfknblvbl> hehe
[04:01] <str4nd> fglrx == symlink to /dev/null ?
[04:01] <KenSentMe> mneptok: well, i do, but nautilus doesn't show me the chmod options of files and folders
[04:01] <mneptok> KenSentMe: have you tried gftp to see if it meets your needs?
[04:02] <mneptok> KenSentMe: talked to someone on GIMPnet's #nautilus?
[04:02] <UnIData> ubuntu 6.10 when ?
[04:02] <KenSentMe> mneptok: i tried that, but i thought maybe it was a bug in nautilus
[04:02] <unfknblvbl> October 26thhhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:02] <KenSentMe> mneptok: i'll try that
[04:02] <UnIData> thx
[04:02] <mneptok> KenSentMe: may be a bug in Nautilus. if so, you should speak to the Nautilus devs.
[04:03] <UnIData> on ubuntu what is the best MTA ?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> mail server ?
[04:03] <meson_ray> hi all
[04:03] <KenSentMe> mneptok: do you mean #nautilus @ gimpnet or at gnome.org?
[04:03] <mneptok> UnIData: the same as any other Unix variant. your choice.
[04:03] <UnIData> yes mail server
[04:03] <mneptok> KenSentMe: #nautilus on irc.gnome.org (which is part of GIMPnet)
[04:03] <UnIData> ok
[04:03] <KenSentMe> mneptok: ah, ok
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> postfix ... what else ?
[04:04] <mneptok> wickedpuppy: some people really love sendmail or exim
[04:04] <meson_ray> i have ubuntu installed on a 2.5 gig partition, and want to move stuff to other partitions - that i cannot wipe - and was wondering what directories i should move?  will a soft link work for that or would hard be better?
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> mneptok, really ... sodoku fans perhaps .. i mean sendmail fans
[04:05] <mneptok> wickedpuppy: my boss is one of them
[04:08] <kakkl> OMFG http://www.nanoy.org/se.php?id=65 got defaced LOL
[04:09] <meson_ray> does anybody have any ideas?
[04:09] <lokedk> Using the latest ubuntu iso, i am trying to boot it on my laptop but when it comes to mounting root filesystems the splash screen disappears and all i see is black screen with "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel".. and nothing happens
[04:09] <unfknblvbl> whats a good download manager with a schedule thingy ?
[04:11] <Alakazam_> meson_ray, any ideas about what.
[04:11] <Alakazam_> lokedk, try using the safe graphics install option
[04:11] <meson_ray> i have ubuntu installed on a 2.5 gig partition, and want to move stuff to other partitions - that i cannot wipe - and was wondering what directories i should move?  will a soft link work for that or would hard be better?
[04:11] <lokedk> Okay i'll try
[04:13] <lokedk> same thing happens
[04:13] <Alakazam_> meson_ray, i dont even know what you are talking about.
[04:13] <docmur> Hello all
[04:13] <leng__> hello
[04:13] <meson_ray> i want to move files from my ubuntu installation onto different partitions
[04:13] <Alakazam_> lokedk, im not too sure then man. i dont know why its doing that. have you checked the MD5SUM?
[04:13] <docmur> I just upgraded to edgy but my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd are missing
[04:13] <Alakazam_> meson_ray, why?
[04:13] <docmur> ??? can I use mknod to restore them
[04:13] <meson_ray> because of my partitioning, i had to install ubuntu on a 2.5 gig partition
[04:14] <meson_ray> i have space on other partitions, but i'm not willing to format
[04:14] <Alakazam_> meson_ray, if you start moving rap around, you're going to jack the OS up
[04:14] <Alakazam_> rap = crap
[04:14] <Alakazam_> i need to go buy some cigs, i'll be back in a little.
[04:14] <meson_ray> that's why i'd make a link
[04:14] <Alakazam_> nick Alakazam_AFK
[04:14] <lokedk> Alakazam_: I haven't.. but i have tried with both serveral of thoes i got send by snailmail and some i downloaded myself
[04:15] <userbn> hfdhmcfdkjkkjdf
[04:15] <lokedk> doubt that 10 printet cd's are broken
[04:15] <gondes> #cirebon
[04:16] <userbn> komtol
[04:16] <meson_ray> well if i jack the OS up, that's my fault, isn't it?  i'm just asking how to best do it with the least chance of messing everything up
[04:17] <lokedk> check cd for defects give busybox
[04:17] <vimike> Hi. I'm using xchat2-gnome in 6.06. The "user list" is only a small icon on the bottom left. How can I make it a "list" again that is visible all the time?
[04:18] <Khamael> is there a howto for aiglx and the new nvidia beta drivers?
[04:19] <boink> !nvidia
[04:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:19] <berent> how do u chat on irc on console
[04:19] <berent> any pointers
[04:19] <chromium> finally fixed my ATI driver for opengl
[04:19] <Khamael> berent: bitchx or irssi
[04:20] <berent> irssi
[04:20] <boink> barent: irssi is for grown ups
[04:20] <berent> haha
[04:20] <boink> apt-get install irssi, but it takes a while to learn how to use
[04:20] <lalala> i linke irssi quite wel
[04:20] <boink> bitchx is fine if you're age 13
[04:20] <Khamael> what is the difference?
[04:20] <lalala> bit of a learning curve but not that difficult
[04:20] <berent> do u think i am 13
[04:21] <chromium> fglrx is for the birds
[04:21] <boink> on the internet, anyone can be 13 :P
[04:21] <DrZeus> hi all
[04:21] <ProN00b> i somehow edited my gconf in a place i shouldn't
[04:21] <ProN00b> can i reset it ?
[04:21] <DrZeus> Question: how is it done for having full-duplex sound?
[04:21] <malix> oskude only after you have left I see You are no more connected
[04:21] <berent> how to learn irssi chat onconsole
[04:21] <malix> maybe you miss some messages
[04:21] <oskude> malix: well, i said i had to go home...
[04:22] <beligum> Hi all, I wrote a little essay on the concept and advantages of videohelpdesking on Linux (and FOSS in general), since you're all fellow Linux users/developers, I thought it might be an interesting read: http://blog.beligum.org
[04:22] <DrZeus> does anybody knows how to get full duplex audio?
[04:23] <oskude> malix: but i would call it a feature that popups dont get focus ;)
[04:23] <DrZeus> each time I get sound from 2 sources(webpage, player) they cant.  The first one that was playing keeps the audio, and the other app has no sound
[04:23] <oskude> DrZeus: your audio chip and drivers have to support full duplex (pretty normal these days)
[04:24] <oskude> DrZeus: thats no duplex, full duplex means an application can record and play at the same time
[04:24] <DrZeus> oh, then, i cant hear sound from 2 sources
[04:24] <DrZeus> i havent tried recording actually
[04:24] <docmur> I just upgraded to edgy but my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd are missing
[04:24] <docmur> ??? can I use mknod to restore them
[04:25] <oskude> DrZeus: i think that has something to do with the mixer and the "audio engine" type you use...
[04:25] <DrZeus> oskude: then, how is it done for being available to listen audio from 2 sources, at the same time(like windoze for example)
[04:25] <DrZeus> alsamixer means I use alsa?
[04:26] <oskude> DrZeus: sorry, never had that "problem" as i dont even want 2 sound sources at the same time (got even system sounds disabled)
[04:26] <DrZeus> I see
[04:26] <oskude> DrZeus: but im sure ubotu knows
[04:26] <malix> oskude its not a feature, attention are not automatically opened popup (popup blocker) but a popup requested by user when click on a link
[04:27] <DrZeus> !alsa
[04:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:27] <UnIData> quit
[04:27] <PhilsenAsk> hey guys
[04:27] <malix> oskude and this work correctly with Firefox distributed by Mozilla.org
[04:27] <oskude> malix: got a page (link) to test that ?
[04:27] <PhilsenAsk> is on the ubuntu servers a webgui chat?
[04:27] <malix> oskude I'm preparing it
[04:28] <berent> anyone on irssi chat on linux console
[04:28] <oskude> malix: roger
[04:28] <berent> any tutorials
[04:28] <etienne_> oh my good theres a lot of people here
[04:28] <nate> Anyone know how to setup a bonded (bond0) interface that will work with the network scripts using dhcp? I can only get static to work.
[04:28] <tenner> berent: for what? irssi?
[04:28] <berent> on command prompt
[04:28] <berent> just to know it
[04:28] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:28] <PhilsenAsk> is some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:28] <BuzZy> !edge
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <PhilsenAsk> is some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:28] <PhilsenAsk> is some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:28] <PhilsenAsk> is some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:29] <oskude> !wait
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wait - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <slop> PhilsenAsk, that's a good way to get banned...
[04:29] <PhilsenAsk> sorry
[04:29] <PhilsenAsk> but it's very important
[04:29] <eXistenZ> No one dares to ban PhilsenAsk
[04:29] <nate> Try asking the question in a manner that makes sense.
[04:29] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:29] <slop> PhilsenAsk, what's a webgui chat?
[04:30] <oskude> PhilsenAsk: and i dont even understand what you want...
[04:30] <mdcmb> hola
[04:30] <PhilsenAsk> webgui is a Content Managment System and i need an channel to ask somebody who knows a lot of it
[04:31] <tenner> berent: eber tried the official irssi.org?
[04:31] <boink> try Xchat
[04:31] <tenner> *ever
[04:31] <berent> tenner : never
[04:31] <ProN00b> i somehow edited my gconf in a place i shouldn't, can i somehow reset it ?
[04:31] <berent> shud i
[04:31] <oskude> PhilsenAsk: thats better :) if they dont mention a chatroom on their website, there propably aint any...
[04:31] <etienne_> Hi, i'm looking for a ubuntu package how-to
[04:31] <slop> etienne_, what package?
[04:32] <nate> I think he means howto create a package
[04:32] <davidw> is thre a way to change what a device shows up as in sysfs?
[04:32] <tenner> berent: no, never visit any official site if you are searching for any help
[04:32] <segfault> etienne_, search google for debian package how to the process is the same
[04:32] <etienne_> slop: how-to about how the packaging system works to install and maintain them
[04:32] <davidw> eth2 should be called eth0
[04:32] <slop> etienne_, ah ok
[04:32] <nate> Anyone know how to setup a bonded (bond0) interface that will work with the network scripts using dhcp? I can only get static to work.
[04:32] <DrZeus> anybody knows howto get incoming sound from different source, happening at the same time sharing the soundcard?
[04:32] <berent> tenner : when i type irc on my console it opens a window where i donno what to do
[04:32] <iratik> I'm experiencing _severe_ performance loss - I can't ssh in, so I went onsite to the actual server itself (running ubuntu 6.06LTS LAMP w/ ispconfig). When I get onsite, I enter the login, password - nothing , it just sits - this happened yesterday and I solved it by doing a hard-reset (only the boot took 17 minutes, it usually takes less than 2 minutes, and it mostly was while the kernel was loading) - Do you think this is a hardware 
[04:32] <oskude> etienne_: you mean for user or for a package maintainer ?
[04:33] <PhilsenAsk> !
[04:33] <etienne_> oskude: user
[04:33] <tenner> berent: when you use irssi, why do you type "irc"?
[04:33] <PhilsenAsk> thanks :-D
[04:33] <nate> iratik: load is probably through the roof. you need to be able to see whats using the most resources
[04:33] <oskude> etienne_: hmm, dunno about that. sorry
[04:33] <berent> tenner: both r same
[04:33] <iratik> nate: What do I look for in top?
[04:33] <slop> etienne_, you could probably google around for one, or check the ubuntu forums
[04:34] <tenner> berent: say what?
[04:34] <jenda> Does anyone have an ide where I could find a setting in xchat to change the default browser? This way it always uses Galeon.
[04:34] <nate> I'd start with anything that's using the majority of resources.
[04:34] <etienne_> oskude: ok because i was wondering about hte graphical interface and also the ubuntu faq says to not mix up deb and ubuntu bpackages
[04:34] <iratik> nate: I looked and it said that system usage was at 8% (but it took about 1.5 minutes to pull up top)
[04:34] <DrZeus> does anybody can hear sound from 2 sources at the same time in ubuntu?
[04:34] <berent> tenner: try typing them same window opens
[04:34] <nate> if nothing is, but you're load is over 3.0 you've got a rogue process sucking up resources.
[04:34] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:34] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:34] <DrZeus> does anybody can hear sound from 2 sources at the same time in ubuntu?
[04:34] <slop> DrZeus, i can
[04:34] <nate> just type uptime at the CLI. see what the load average is
[04:34] <nate> it's quicker then top
[04:35] <jenda> BuzZy: If you mean the release of Edgy, then that's planned for october 16
[04:35] <iratik> nate: type uptime?
[04:35] <iratik> well , its taken 12 minutes - but the login just went through , i'll try it
[04:35] <nate> yeah, type "uptime" at the command line
[04:35] <slop> DrZeus, are you talking about for music production?
[04:35] <nate> I know it sucks, I've been in your situation before.
[04:35] <DrZeus> slop: did you configure anything, or it just worked? I can only have audio from 1 source, the next one is muted
[04:35] <oskude> etienne_: you may ask your questions here, and yes even very newbie ones :) for mixing ubuntu and debian packages, its cause debian and ubuntu may not have the same versions of the libraries that the program may need, but it theorey, they are compatible
[04:35] <nate> trying to diagnose an overloaded system
[04:35] <iratik> Load average: 16.65, 17.53, 16.62
[04:35] <nate> yeah something is sucking resources
[04:35] <tenner> berent: that was not my question. if you install "firefox", do you type "thunderbird" to start it? i guess not, but anyway. good howTos on using irrssi are on the main site irssi.org and yyou might have some luck in #irssi
[04:35] <iratik> Thats over 3
[04:35] <slop> DrZeus, when i'm doing music production, i can use more than one source by setting up the JACK server
[04:36] <nate> if top doesn't show a specific process that's using the majority share, it's a bit harder to find it
[04:36] <iratik> nate: So what do I look for?
[04:36] <nate> I'd start with "dmesg"
[04:36] <iratik> is there a way to find the current load?
[04:36] <DrZeus> slop: no, just listening.  I run a media player and it has audio.  I close it and then try to listen audio from a website, and it doesnt
[04:36] <nate> see if there is anything in there about errors
[04:36] <nate> the current load is the first field of Load Average
[04:36] <nate> so 16.65
[04:36] <iratik> dmesg is hardware errors right?
[04:36] <nate> dmesg is info right from the kernel
[04:36] <tenner> berent: besides that the general usage doesn't differ too much from any other irc client
[04:37] <nate> check that and look for errors in scsi or some other device
[04:37] <berent> tenner : but how do i start there
[04:37] <tenner> berent: command-wise
[04:37] <iratik> dmesg | grep <anything i should type here> ?
[04:37] <nate> no just "dmesg"
[04:37] <nate> or
[04:37] <lordi> Im new to linux. Is it 386 desktop version that i need for my P4?
[04:37] <nate> dmesg | less
[04:37] <nate> that'd be better I guess
[04:37] <etienne_> oskdude: ok but yourself, do you use the x package manager or do you do your packaing stuff off the console?
[04:37] <nate> but I'm sure the last 200 lines will tell you what you need
[04:38] <iratik> nate: I don't see anything that looks like an erro
[04:38] <iratik> i'll pass it through grep for 'failed' or 'error'
[04:38] <malix> oskude here you find the example that doesn't work http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox/
[04:38] <oskude> etienne_: i use apt-get, but people use aptitude or synaptic too, it "really" doesnt matter...
[04:38] <x_rob> lordi: yup
[04:39] <xamox> what's a good light weight file manager, like something for fluxbox?
[04:39] <tenner> berent: try typing /connect irc.freenode.net
[04:39] <iratik> The only thing I get is: [some long number]  cdrom: open failed
[04:39] <iratik> that isnt it
[04:39] <berent> tenner : thats like a good boy
[04:39] <tenner> berent: then go on with /join #ubuntu after you're connecte
[04:39] <tenner> d
[04:39] <nate> you may just have to reboot it and open a window with the primary log files
[04:39] <nate> just monitor it
[04:39] <nate> wait for the hang to occur
[04:39] <tenner> and then start reading lots and lots of docs plus the manpage
[04:39] <tyler_> how long should an initial charge of a new li-polymer battery be? anyone please?
[04:40] <lordi> Thanx x_rob, do you know if the installer (after my xp install) can create a swap partition in my unpartitonated space on the disk?
[04:40] <iratik> On top,  mysql is taking 387mb of on the 'VIRT' column - is this normal?
[04:40] <slop> xamox, try xfe
[04:40] <nate> lordi: for partitioning after the disk all ready has an OS on it I would suggest Gparted
[04:40] <oskude> malix: ok, still, i would call that a feature ;) well, actually, the firefox in ubuntu should work like "vanilla" fx, otherwise itws not allowed to be called firefox...
[04:40] <x_rob> lordi: yes,it should be able too, you've just got to make sure that you make a root partition aswell
[04:40] <nate> iratik: dunno, it's your server. is it normal?
[04:40] <nate> nobody can tell you what's normal on your machine.
[04:40] <noqman> I need to know how to setup a vpn from my linux box into a windows server the windows system is already running vpn on its side but Ive never done vpn from my fedora box; anybody know a good tutorial  that will help me
[04:41] <berent> tenner : thanks
[04:41] <xamox> slop:  thx
[04:41] <tenner> berent: what are you using right now?
[04:41] <slop> xamox, np
[04:41] <iratik> nate: I'll ask #mysql if its normal - but on '%CPU' it says between 10-16% which isn't much right?
[04:41] <oskude> malix: of wait, theres not the trademarked firefox logo in ubuntu, ok...
[04:41] <berent> tenner : xchat
[04:41] <nate> sounds normal for sql
[04:41] <nate> if it were 99%, that'd be your culprit
[04:41] <nate> we have a mail server here with NFS problems
[04:42] <nate> it likes to shoot the load to 100+
[04:42] <nate> but top shows nothing using excessive cpu
[04:42] <nate> it's very annoying
[04:42] <nate> took me a while to find it.
[04:42] <iratik> Is there a way to 'catch' a program that blows the system load?
[04:42] <oskude> malix: i would be curious if that "feature" remains when you compile form the deb-src...
[04:42] <berent> tenner: also how will u open a web browser when on command line i dont like lynx
[04:42] <iratik> dmesg doesn't tell me much
[04:42] <tenner> berent: why not keep using it? you seem to be not really aware of things that you're facing right now, so why change to irss?
[04:43] <malix> oskude I call this a bug and not a feature
[04:43] <tenner> berent: you're in X?
[04:43] <berent> tenner: yes i am in X
[04:43] <etienne_> oskude: ok, i'm just a bit lost. Just installed ubuntu and the only thing i found so far is the gnome app install thing ... anyways i will read up on the subject
[04:43] <tenner> berent: just open a browser you have installed
[04:43] <berent> tenner : what happened for me to be aware
[04:43] <malix> oskude the second popup open but don't come in foreground as expected
[04:44] <berent> tenner: i know but how to if i am on command prompt if i want min overhead
[04:44] <oskude> etienne_: you dont "need" anything else than the synaptic package manager (under administration) but for me, terminal/console tools are faster to use...
[04:44] <etienne_> oskude : i'm used to use a shell as well
[04:45] <etienne_> looking at synaptic right now
[04:45] <malix> oskude I can try to compile from source but as I reported on launchpad https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840 there are difference on linked libraries
[04:45] <oskude> etienne_: then i would recommend apt-get or aptitude
[04:45] <oskude> malix: so you mean the "bug" is outside fx ?
[04:45] <malix> oskude may be the bug is due a bug on one of this library. But I need hel to investigate this
[04:45] <tyler_> how long should an initial charge of a new li-polymer battery be? anyone please?
[04:46] <oskude> malix: btw, in what specification does this behaviour (and command) belong ?
[04:46] <diminthedam> my ekiga keeps crashing when trying to detect NAT. Any ideas?
[04:46] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[04:46] <malix> oskude excuse me may be the bug is in one of those libraries but I repeat I don't know how to investigate
[04:47] <gangster> can anyone tell me how to deactivate automount.
[04:47] <iratik> thanks for the help nate
[04:47] <Ti_Uhl> how do i install a sun jdk on ubuntu Dapper server ? there doesn't seem to be anything in the apt repo's. I've added the universe and multiverse resources
[04:47] <oskude> malix: well, my motto is "no one needs popups", so im not so motivated to pursue this :P
[04:47] <valvola> gangster, just open gnome-volume-manager
[04:47] <berent> gangster : edit ur /etc/fstab
[04:47] <malix> oskude I need someone that would help me on find where the bug happen. But this one is just someone thar know Firefox
[04:47] <nate> sorry I can't do more. but it's a lot of diagnostic work basically
[04:47] <nate> just gotta dive in
[04:48] <nate> but I can't really tell you what to look for specifically
[04:48] <nate> you just learn over time
[04:48] <meson_ray> if i start moving system directories around, can i use a hard or soft link to 'mount' the new location in the old location?
[04:48] <rodneyk> what is the best way to upgrade from dapper to edgy, just change the apt-sources?
[04:48] <gangster> valvola: can u tell me clearly coz am a beginner in linux
[04:48] <nate> meson: you could, but why would you need to do so? partitions fill up?
[04:48] <diminthedam> oskuda: u recommended ekiga, but it freezes when detecting my NAT
[04:48] <tenner> berent: just start eg firefox, o i dont understand the problem
[04:49] <Ti_Uhl> how do i install a sun jdk on ubuntu Dapper server ? there doesn't seem to be anything in the apt repo's. I've added the universe and multiverse resources. Anyone ?
[04:49] <valvola> gangster, now i'm not on ubuntu so i can't see, but i think that if you open gnome-volume-properties u can find it easy how to deactivate automount
[04:49] <Soekisan> can anyone tell me how to change my own text color on xchat 2?
[04:49] <nate> Ti_Uhl: sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
[04:49] <SkySurfer> Ti_Uhl: I've added java support by getting the official package from sun. It's easy to install.
[04:49] <oskude> diminthedam: then please report a bug... do you have a nat ?
[04:49] <meson_ray> yeah, partition's full
[04:49] <oloff> how do i configure mysql?
[04:50] <Ti_Uhl> nate : that isn't in my repo's ?
[04:50] <gangster> valvola: can u tell me how to open that
[04:50] <nate> meson: yeah you can do it. it's nasty but it will work.
[04:50] <meson_ray> nate:  i had to install on a 2.5 gig partition
[04:50] <oloff> how do i configure mysql. set passwords etc.
[04:50] <narma> hello, I have just heard about the CD burning application brasero (http://perso.orange.fr/bonfire/). I see into a ubuntu doc that I can install it but 'apt-cache search brasero' give me nothing. Is there a way to installe it ?
[04:50] <diminthedam> oskude: it worked before. i have NAT on my dsl router
[04:50] <berent> tenner : let me explain .if u r in command prompt without X server started u have only a prompt and nothing else links/lynx are character mode www browsers
[04:50] <meson_ray> nate:  plenty of space on other partitions, but it's better than installing two OSes on the same partition
[04:50] <nate> meson: my old solaris router had that problem too. I had to sym link across a new disk
[04:50] <valvola> gangster, from a shell or easily with "Alt + F2"
[04:50] <meson_ray> they're both on the same disk, just different partitions
[04:50] <berent> tenner : i want something more quick and easy
[04:50] <tenner> berent: 1643     berent> tenner: yes i am in X
[04:51] <nate> Ti_Uhl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/sun-java5-jdk
[04:51] <Wulong> Would I get any better performance using resierFS and not Ext3 ?
[04:51] <tenner> berent: what are you babbling about your cli?
[04:51] <nate> Wu: depends on what you do. But I would suggest XFS over resier
[04:51] <berent> tenner : i know but i wanna know that also
[04:51] <oskude> diminthedam: well, it works here, so we need more info... hmm maybe your better off in ekiga chatroom (if theres one)
[04:51] <tenner> berent: just use a browser that doesn't depend on an X server
[04:52] <narma> nobody use brasero ?
[04:52] <berent> tenner : which one
[04:52] <tenner> berent: aka lynx, links
[04:52] <berent> tenner: anything else
[04:52] <oskude> diminthedam: are you using a "pure" ubuntu dapper ?
[04:52] <diminthedam> oskuda: i keep trying. not ekiga chat room yet unfortuately. also do u know much about vmware?
[04:52] <tenner> berent: the only two i use frequently
[04:52] <diminthedam> oskuda: yes
[04:52] <Ti_Uhl> nate : i've added the multiverse repository but i can't find it with apt ?
[04:53] <gangster> berent: can u tell me how to do it fully
[04:53] <meson_ray> nate:  should i use a soft or hard link for that?
[04:53] <tenner> berent: what do you expect from those text brosers? links, links" are the best i have faced yet
[04:53] <oskude> oskude: (does your chat client have tab clompetion for nicks?;) sorry, never used vmware
[04:53] <berent> tenner : fully?
[04:53] <nate> meson: I always used soft
[04:53] <oskude> diminthedam: (wrong nick:/) (does your chat client have tab clompetion for nicks?;) sorry, never used vmware
[04:53] <tenner> berent: fully what?
[04:54] <diminthedam> oskude: i dont understand that q
[04:54] <berent> tenner : ok that was for previous answer of urs
[04:54] <silent_scream> where can i find commads for xchat??
[04:54] <nate> Ti_Uhl: make sure you add multiverse for main and backports
[04:54] <berent> tenner: tell me onething how do u switch between cli and X
[04:54] <oskude> diminthedam: you could allso start ekiga from console, and see if you get any usefull error messages
[04:54] <silent_scream> and generally how to write with colors etc...
[04:55] <daWabbit> silent_scream, There are lists of slash commands for irc all over the web. Just google on it
[04:55] <nate> silent_scream there are IRC specifics commands and then there are client commands
[04:55] <tenner> berent: did you read anything related to linux in general? a howto, a book? anything similar?
[04:55] <nate> which do you want?
[04:55] <oskude> diminthedam: and "ekiga --help" says "ekiga -d" would spit even more info...
[04:55] <berent> tenner : no
[04:55] <berent> tenner : i might have
[04:55] <silent_scream> nate, yes client commands
[04:55] <oskude> diminthedam: and do you have software firewalls installed ?
[04:56] <silent_scream> nate, both
[04:56] <jenda> Is there a way to find out which app is using a port on my network?
[04:56] <nate> jenda: lsof -i
[04:56] <tenner> berent: and you expect people to totally introduce you into this world? dont you think this sounds strange?
[04:56] <kzm> Is amarok broken in dapper?
[04:56] <nate> jenda: or netstat -a
[04:56] <tenner> berent: you might have? yes you should have
[04:56] <kraut> is there any german mirror of security.ubuntu.com?
[04:56] <meson_ray> nate:  sorry to be a bother, but is there any advantage to using hard over soft?
[04:56] <jenda> nate: aha, cool :) pipe&grep and it's exactly what I need :
[04:56] <jenda> :)
[04:56] <diminthedam> oskuda: good idea. says none of the auth protocols supported and auth failed
[04:57] <oskude> meson_ray: hard is mostly faster
[04:57] <berent> tenner: i think i need some quick answers -they will be refreshing
[04:57] <diminthedam> oskuda: no soft firewalls
[04:57] <berent> tenner :my thoughts and knowledge
[04:57] <oskude> diminthedam: then it seems ekiga cant auto detect your nat... (but it shouldnt freeze)
[04:58] <SkySurfer> moi tuoppi! cool name!
[04:58] <oskude> diminthedam: i gotta go shopping, back in 30min or so
[04:58] <theunruled> Hello everyone, how do I install Alltray? I don't see it in the apt
[04:58] <chamo> hello
[04:58] <kzm> And if amarok is broken, what is the recommended application for music playing ++?
[04:58] <diminthedam> oskuda: thanks. have fun
[04:58] <daWabbit> In order to get Alltray to work, I had to build it for Dapper PPC
[04:58] <theunruled> kzm: ncmpc
[04:58] <nate> afk a bit
[04:59] <meson_ray> mostly?
[04:59] <theunruled> Dapper PPC?
[04:59] <daWabbit> Yup
[04:59] <meson_ray> kzm:  rythmbox if it's not too many dependencies
[05:00] <ifrozen> hali (eszem,de olvasom
[05:03] <berent> anyone : whats the command to switch between cli and xterm
[05:03] <mergest> h
[05:03] <mergest> hi
[05:03] <meson_ray> nate:  thanks for the help
[05:04] <meson_ray> oskude:  thanks as well
[05:05] <The_Jack_of_Club> holy cow 910 people
[05:05] <brokendash> so, I was attempting to recompile my kernel the other night, ran out of disk space, and now I can't boot except for "recovery mode".  Can anybody tell me what I should remove so that I can boot again?
[05:06] <kzm> berent: xterm is a cli (command line interface)
[05:06] <daWabbit> brokendash; CD to /tmp and see if the attempted build has put a lot of stuff in there
[05:07] <brokendash> is it possible to browse the console in recovery mode without quitting irssi?
[05:07] <mergest> i got a problem with my grub... i installed a windows system and now i tried to reinstall grub with a u-lifecd with "grub-install  /dev/hda! !! than came an error: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." whats wrong?
[05:07] <berent> kzm: i want to go to init 1 or init 2
[05:07] <berent> and switch back to x
[05:07] <jason^> i'm trying to get crontab emails to go to another email address off of the machine but my mail server won't accept root@random.named.machine.com, it needs someuser@blah.com in the from field, is there a way to do that?
[05:08] <sureshot> hey all how to i deltree somthing that has made several directorys
[05:08] <kzm> berent: sudo init 1  (or perhaps 'telinit 1')?
[05:08] <kzm> sureshot, rm -rf (caution advised)
[05:08] <berent> kzm:can i switch back
[05:09] <kzm> I don't remember what the runlevel is, but try telinit 3 or something?  Or look at /etc/inittab
[05:09] <sureshot> i know kzm and thanks but it is in my home directory i think i am safe there am i
[05:09] <sureshot> ??
[05:09] <nate> 1 = single, 2 = regular
[05:09] <nate> debian/ubuntu run levels are stupid
[05:09] <mergest> i readed the howto in the internet but it cant help me :(
[05:10] <kzm> sureshot, you're not going to destroy anything that isn't yours, so go for it :-)
[05:10] <iratik> I'm getting this on bootup (boot is taking 14 minutes, avg is 2 minutes , and avg load is 17.35) - is this error message related?
[05:10] <sureshot> kzm thanks man
[05:10] <iratik> * Starting kernel event manager
[05:10] <iratik> * Loading hardware drivers
[05:10] <iratik> [42949570.83000000]  shpchp: shpc_init: cannot reserve MMIO region
[05:10] <mergest> hda is right and exist
[05:10] <brokendash> is there any way to use the console without quitting irssi?
[05:10] <brokendash> ^^ in recovery mode
[05:11] <iratik> can anyone make any sense of that error message?
[05:11] <nate> broken: define "recovery mode"
[05:12] <brokendash> nate: one of the boot options, as I cannot boot normally
[05:13] <mikeymike> holy moly
[05:13] <mztriz> yeah...
[05:13] <mikeymike> hi
[05:13] <mikeymike> okay
[05:13] <mztriz> lot's of p eople in this room
[05:13] <mztriz> haha
[05:13] <nate> so how does that relate to running irssi?
[05:13] <mikeymike> yeah always
[05:13] <mikeymike> okay ave post away i'm sure someone will help :)
[05:13] <brokendash> nate: I am running irssi atm because I can't figure out how to fix my problem, but its kinda annoying to have to quit irssi anytime I want to check/try a command
[05:14] <nate> you at the console?
[05:14] <ke> Try with screen
[05:14] <nate> or remote?
[05:14] <nate> either use another virtual console or run screen
[05:14] <mikeymike> hey mztriz thats almost like your middle name
[05:14] <mikeymike> lol
[05:14] <mikeymike> shriphani
[05:14] <brokendash> I am on teh console
[05:14] <mztriz> Okay, I have a gateway w730-k8x laptop and I just installed 6.06 drapper on  it but it doesn't detect the internet. Not even with eth01
[05:14] <nate> then use another virtual (alt+F[1-6] )
[05:14] <brokendash> ctrl-alt-f# doesn't work though, none of the other consoles display anything besides a blinking curso
[05:15] <nate> mztriz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops?highlight=%28laptop%29
[05:15] <mikeymike> awesome
[05:15] <mikeymike> haha
[05:15] <nate> broken: then use screen
[05:15] <mztriz> thanks nate
[05:15] <mikeymike> mztriz: i love this channel :)
[05:15] <brokendash> but atm I am trying to find out what I need to do to fix it first
[05:15] <nate> I'm just here to get my own question answered, that's all :-D
[05:16] <mikeymike> o nate its not in there
[05:16] <mikeymike> the gateway
[05:16] <mikeymike> not listed in that
[05:16] <brokendash> I didn't think my question was that hard :S
[05:16] <der0b> brokendash: quit irssi, enter screen -S irssi, then start irssi to get back to the consol, ctrl+a d, to get back to screen enter screen -x irssi
[05:16] <brokendash> I was recompiling my kernel, ran out of disk space, but I don't know what I can safely remove so I can boot again
[05:16] <nate> mikeymike: I make no promises. that site often has the info I need for laptops.
[05:16] <sureshot> kzm thanks that worked had to get rid of cedega it gets tiresome to click yes 10000 times trying to reinstall each file and the uninstaller did not work
[05:17] <mikeymike> nate: k :)
[05:17] <nate> broken: remove the kernel source?
[05:17] <brokendash> nate: and how do I do that?  [I am not very proficient] 
[05:17] <kzm> sureshot, unix is your friend. :-9
[05:17] <yellow> hey guys
[05:17] <nate> did you manually download the source or use apt?
[05:18] <yellow> i have a question
[05:18] <Tyle1> Hey there everyone, im having a problem using a printer of mine with Ubuntu, im new to Ubuntu and would like to get my printer working.
[05:18] <brokendash> nate: I think it was manual, but I don't recall specifically
[05:18] <yellow> how do you display international characters in programs in ubuntu ?
[05:18] <jenda> How do I set a static IP for my Ubuntu box in my router?
[05:18] <nate> well if you don't know what you did it's hard to tell you how to fix it
[05:19] <brokendash> where does it store all the newly-compiled data then?  how about that?
[05:19] <nate> jenda: you doing port forwarding or something?
[05:19] <nate> broken: depends if you did source or apt.
[05:19] <nate> that's why I asked
[05:19] <brokendash> nate: where can I look?
[05:19] <Wulong> Why the hell do ubuntu create a 'wifi0' device when eth1 is my wifi card?
[05:19] <der0b> jenda: that would be a function of your router, if your router can do that you'll have to read the docs for it
[05:19] <m|scr34nt> jenda: You can set it in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:19] <segfault> brokendash, dpkg -l | grep linux-source
[05:20] <Tyle1> Hey there everyone, im having a problem using a printer of mine with Ubuntu, im new to Ubuntu and would like to get my printer working.
[05:20] <segfault> Tyle1, what printer?
[05:20] <nate> segfault: forgot some wild cards in there.
[05:20] <segfault> nate, i think that will get it
[05:21] <nate> no, that will match the specific name. to which there is no package
[05:21] <Tyle1> HP All in One PSC 1315
[05:21] <segfault> nate, no dpkg -l will list all installed pkgs | grep linux-source will match any line with that text, which will exists if the kernel src is installed
[05:22] <brokendash> well, the dpkg command didn't return anything
[05:22] <nate> ah I didn't see the grep. I usually just match a wildcard directly to dpkg
[05:23] <nate> my mind sees what it wants to see :-)
[05:23] <Tyle1> segfault, my printer is a all in one HP PSC 1315
[05:23] <segfault> nate, :) me too sometimes
[05:23] <mztriz> nate: that wiki article you sent me didn't have anything I needed in it
[05:23] <jenda> m|scr34nt: yes, that's where I'm now... but I don't what to change.
[05:24] <krzysiek> hi
[05:24] <krzysiek> hi
[05:24] <nate> mztriz: that's all I got
[05:24] <segfault> Tyle1, ull need to read ubuntu docs on setting up cups, u might also need to add hpoj pkg, the rest should already be installed i think
[05:24] <jenda> m|scr34nt: I have the manpage open... but it's difficult to find what I need in there.
[05:25] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:25] <brokendash> so, is there nothing I can do to try and fix this?
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> jenda: I set mine up to be static with the following:
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> iface eth0 inet static
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> address 192.168.75.50
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> gateway 192.168.75.1
[05:25] <segfault> brokendash, sounds like u dodnt install src from apt, so just remove the src dir
[05:26] <krzysiek> ?
[05:26] <jenda> m|scr34nt: and the gateway part, is that where you put the router's default gateway?
[05:26] <m|scr34nt> jenda: That's where I put the routers gateway IP yeah.
[05:26] <jenda> m|scr34nt: and I suppose you deleted something like "auto eth0
[05:26] <jenda> iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[05:27] <The_Jack_of_Club> a gateway connects to the next router inline or the modem
[05:27] <m|scr34nt> jenda: Yeah, comment out the auto eth0 and change the dhcp to static
[05:27] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:27] <brokendash> segfault: /src is in /usr ?
[05:27] <jenda> m|scr34nt: will do... thx
[05:28] <segfault> brokendash, u couls have put the src anywhere, but conventially it would be /usr/src
[05:28] <segfault> brokendash, couls=could
[05:28] <thread`> so where is the beryl package? I added the repos, but no beryl: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main aiglx
[05:28] <thread`> deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ dapper main aiglx
[05:28] <thread`> is it available for amd64 ?
[05:28] <brokendash> k, it has two folder in it, linux and linux 2.6.something
[05:29] <brokendash> I think the "linux" one is not a folder, but a symlink perhaps?
[05:29] <jenda> m|scr34nt: now, how do the changes come into effect... restarting eth0?
[05:29] <jenda> omg... it already did :)
[05:30] <m|scr34nt> jenda: Yeah, restart your networking, or reboot
[05:30] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:30] <mztriz> I have a gateway laptop with networking problems, can someone help me?
[05:30] <iter> ?? ask
[05:30] <gangster> hi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?
[05:30] <mikeymike> iter: she's asking how to get networking working on it
[05:30] <mikeymike> nothing works
[05:30] <mikeymike> wifi or eth0
[05:30] <iter> ifconfig -a
[05:30] <iter> what do you see
[05:31] <Stormx2> I need to mount a NTFS partition via the dapper live CD. How?
[05:31] <MrKeuner> hi, which utility was it that was checking if the md5sums of binaries proves the md5sums distributed by ubuntu?
[05:31] <iter> mztriz: what do you see with ifconfig -a
[05:31] <mikeymike> iter: she's waiting for the laptop to arrive :)
[05:31] <mikeymike> iter: she doesn't have the laptop yet
[05:32] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have /var/www folder and there i have .php files ... i did chown of them to my user name but still when i open them with http://localhost/file.php it opens dialogue box asking open with ... and then opens many blank pages ... my host name is BILAL does it has any thing to do with it ?
[05:32] <mztriz> iter: it's my friends laptop, she'll be here soon though.
[05:32] <iter> Dimensions: apache1 or 2
[05:32] <mikeymike> iter: do you want her to paste that stuff when she gets it?
[05:32] <brokendash> pbbth, how do I delete a folder? :X
[05:32] <jenda> m|scr34nt: could you hint me in on how to restart eth0 through CLI?
[05:32] <Dimensions> iter:  i downloaded sudo apt-get apache2 but when browser opens it has written apache 1.3 ...
[05:33] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:33] <iter> Dimensions: interesting. that's another problem
[05:33] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:33] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:33] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:33] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:33] <mikeymike> uh oh.
[05:33] <iter> Dimensions: what you're looking for is DirectoryIndex in apache2.conf
[05:33] <iter> or in httpd.conf if an older version of apache
[05:33] <brokendash> how do I delete a folder? :X
[05:33] <nate> Why do people that are so urgent to get their question answered, ask with the least understandable questions?
[05:33] <iter> make sure that it has index.php on that line
[05:33] <gangster> hi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?
[05:34] <nate> brokendash: rmdir
[05:34] <brokendash> ooo
[05:34] <m|scr34nt> jenda: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:34] <Dimensions> when i am restarting apache with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it says fail .. Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName and ....  could not bind to address 127.0.0.1:80
[05:34] <Dimensions> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[05:34] <brokendash> can I force it to remove it even if its not empty?
[05:34] <iter> Dimensions: it's cause you're alreading running apache on port 80
[05:34] <mikeymike> brokendash: -f = force
[05:34] <mikeymike> lol
[05:34] <iter> which is why it can't bind
[05:35] <Dimensions> so what should i do ?
[05:35] <iter> do 'ps aux | grep http'
[05:35] <pike_> brokendash: if it contains files rm -fr directory   r is recursive f is force
[05:35] <Dimensions> how i am going to open my .php file
[05:35] <iter> Dimensions: did you read what I wrote?
[05:35] <iter> edit apache2.conf
[05:35] <iter> int /etc/apache2
[05:35] <Dimensions> yeah ...
[05:35] <iter> add index.php to the DirectoyIndex line
[05:35] <gangster> hi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?
[05:35] <highneko> What's the resize window keybloard shortcut?
[05:36] <iter> Dimensions: now kill apache 1.3 with apachectl stop
[05:36] <Dimensions> iter:  i got this reply ... filter   18822  0.0  0.1   2888   820 pts/0    S+   16:35   0:00 grep http
[05:36] <brokendash> excellent, now I am only at 85% used space, see you on the other side
[05:36] <iter> start apache2 with apache2ctl start
[05:36] <KenSentMe> Does anyone use the nautilus option to connect to an ftp server?
[05:36] <iter> Dimensions: httpd is not running then
[05:37] <iter> that error you get about not being able to determing the FQDN you can ignore
[05:38] <pike_> KenSentMe: you can just type ftp://username@servername in naut
[05:38] <KenSentMe> pike_: do you use nautilus to connect to an ftp server, and can you see the file permissions?
[05:39] <pike_> KenSentMe: when people ask me about ftp i recommend nautilus but i use just the cli myself im not too familiar with it
[05:39] <iter> lftp >> *
[05:39] <KenSentMe> pike_: could you try it for me? The permissions are not shown here and i want to make sure it's not a problem on my side
[05:40] <KenSentMe> pike_: or with my ftp server
[05:40] <davidwinter> hi all. I'd like to install Ubuntu on my MacBook in a dual boot situation.
[05:40] <jozzeph> hello
[05:40] <zircx> blah, can someone point me in the right direction of the latest xgl/compiz howto install site..
[05:40] <davidwinter> I did try Dapper before, but run into problems with grub during the install
[05:41] <zircx> I've been through 150 of the damn things and neither of them worked to date..
[05:41] <jozzeph> i have a  b i g   problem with ubuntu and java
[05:41] <davidwinter> so I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck with Edgy beta + MacBook?
[05:41] <zircx> using Dapper
[05:41] <pike_> KenSentMe: you can pm me your server
[05:41] <jozzeph> i reinstalled ubuntu about 30 times
[05:41] <KenSentMe> pike_: one moment then
[05:41] <jozzeph> and i tried 3 different javas
[05:41] <thanatonaute> Hi. I finally got my wireless usb card to work, but I had to type in bunch of commands.
[05:42] <zircx> configured/installed my nvidia drivers.. i have xgl working, but not compiz, or beryl as it is
[05:42] <thanatonaute> How can I automate this using a script? Where can I put the script?
[05:42] <jozzeph> so  p l e a s e   can somebody help me with java?
[05:42] <davidwinter> zircx: what I did once I had nvidia drivers working was to follow this for XGL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[05:42] <davidwinter> zircx: then I just followed this straight after: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz?highlight=%28compiz%29
[05:42] <zircx> i swear i'm frustrated as hell lol
[05:42] <iter> jozzeph: what's the problem
[05:42] <jozzeph> so i just reinstalled ubuntu and sun java
[05:43] <davidwinter> I followed both of those one after the other and had no troubles
[05:43] <zircx> okies, will it require me uninstalling what I already have..
[05:43] <jozzeph> and java worked!
[05:43] <zircx> okies, I'll give that ago
[05:43] <jozzeph> unbtil i rebooted
[05:43] <davidwinter> zircx: I'm not sure - I guess it's the best way to make sure it'll work
[05:43] <segfault> zircx, just follow the guides on the ubuntu site to get xgl then compiz/cgwd it worked fine for me
[05:43] <jozzeph> i dont upgrade until i solve my java problem
[05:43] <Lard-O-Lad> thanatonaute: you could make a bash script, running it as a cron or add it in your .bashrc
[05:43] <davidwinter> any MacBook users here?
[05:44] <jozzeph> hello
[05:44] <psusi> where does debconf store settings and how can I manually change them?
[05:44] <zircx> beryl has taken over compiz is that correct? or replaced it?
[05:44] <jozzeph> can somebody help me pls with my java?
[05:44] <segfault> zircx, im still using compiz here with much success
[05:44] <zircx> jozzeph: whats the problem with your java?
[05:45] <jozzeph> zircx i tried it 30 time reinstalling ubuntu
[05:45] <Dimensions> iter sorry but i didn't get the point ... adding index.php to Directoryindex line ... when i goto /etc/apache2 which is a directory then ?
[05:45] <zircx> and what java are you talking about?
[05:45] <jozzeph> now i use java sun...
[05:45] <jozzeph> it worked 1 time
[05:45] <zircx> 30 time reinstall ubuntu?
[05:45] <jozzeph> yes
[05:45] <Lard-O-Lad> jozzeph: do you have java or gij (default java package in ubuntu)?
[05:45] <iter> Dimensions: if you installed php with apt-get it's probably been added
[05:45] <zircx> why the hell would you want to reinstall it 30 times?
[05:45] <jozzeph> gij
[05:45] <iter> Dimensions: just need to stop apache and start apache2
[05:46] <zircx> jozzeph: what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:46] <jozzeph> i tried 3 types of java
[05:46] <highneko> What's the resize window keyboard shortcut? Kinda like how alt is for moving windows.
[05:46] <iter> Dimensions: check to see if you have apache installed with 'dpkg -l | grep apache'
[05:46] <oskude> Dimensions: looking for the last post for me, you need to install/activate the apache php module for apache to know what to do with .php files
[05:47] <jozzeph> can i use signed aplets with sun java?
[05:47] <jozzeph> sometimes java works with unsigned applet
[05:47] <Lard-O-Lad> jozzeph: so you can install Sun Java?
[05:47] <jozzeph> yes sure lard
[05:47] <Lard-O-Lad> i dont understand what the problem is :)
[05:47] <jozzeph> it doesnt work
[05:48] <Tokenbad> could a person install ubuntu to 2 different drives to kinda dual boot ubuntu?
[05:48] <xav> does anyone else have problem acceding to this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270882 ?
[05:48] <Dimensions> ier when i do dpkg -l l apache it shows me two of apache
[05:48] <oskude> Tokenbad: yes
[05:48] <iter> jozzeph: can you run 'java -version' from a terminal
[05:48] <Dimensions> one is apache 1.3 and other is apache 2
[05:48] <jozzeph> my java applet only works the first time after installing java
[05:48] <iter> Dimensions: right, because you have them both installed
[05:48] <Dimensions> iter:  i have two folders in /etc one is apache and other is apache2
[05:48] <iter> Dimensions: remove apache 1.3
[05:48] <zircx> are you wanting the java plugin or ? the jdk2 development platform?
[05:48] <jozzeph> after reboot it wont work
[05:48] <Dimensions> is it okay if i just rm apache folder ?
[05:49] <jozzeph> the java plugin
[05:49] <xav> oh no
[05:49] <iter> Dimensions: use apt-get remove apache
[05:49] <Tokenbad> oskude, ok thanks...will try that
[05:49] <xav> it seems it randomly happen on every thread
[05:49] <xav> ubuntu forums are dead
[05:49] <zircx> synaptic has the java plugin 1.5 i believe
[05:49] <jozzeph> i installed java now with easy ubuntu
[05:49] <Lard-O-Lad> zirc: he can install it, but it wont run his applet
[05:50] <iter> jozzeph: can you run 'java -version' from the command line
[05:50] <zircx> i see..
[05:50] <jozzeph> on kubuntu it was the same way
[05:50] <Dimensions> iter:  i have removed it ... now ?
[05:50] <jozzeph> yes iter
[05:50] <iter> Dimensions: run apache2ctl start
[05:50] <iter> Dimensions: you should see the error about the FQDN and 127.0.0.1
[05:50] <jozzeph> maybe i should change my resolution for java aplet
[05:50] <jozzeph> screen resolution
[05:50] <iter> but not the one about not being able to bind
[05:51] <iter> jozzeph: if you've tried all these java installs, and the only thing they have in common is your applet ....
[05:51] <jozzeph> sometimes java works when i install mozilla in stead of mozilla firefox
[05:51] <jozzeph> my applet is the 'runescape' game
[05:51] <boink> you mean seamonkey?
[05:52] <jozzeph> sometimes it wqorks with unsigned applet
[05:52] <jozzeph> my java randomly works
[05:52] <Dimensions> iter:  it says httpd (pid19317 ) pid already running  and also the same as Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[05:52] <jozzeph> sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt
[05:52] <iter> Dimensions: do kill -9 19317
[05:52] <iter> Dimensions: then restart ir
[05:52] <iter> it*
[05:53] <oskude> Dimensions: you can ignore that warning
[05:53] <imperfect-> Howdy!
[05:53] <imperfect-> ;)
[05:53] <imperfect-> Anyone know what tons of dirtied inode messages followed by system lockups means if fsck reports no problems?
[05:53] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.
[05:53] <iter> Dimensions: but yeah it should be running, check to make sure you're not still getting the 1.3 error message
[05:53] <jozzeph> can somebody explain why java sometimes works and sometimes not?
[05:54] <unfknblvbl> java was modelled on a female
[05:54] <iter> jozzeph: how much ram do you have
[05:54] <bouncy> please can someone offer me a little assistance with vsftp...?
[05:54] <jozzeph> ahaha
[05:54] <unfknblvbl> that explains it all
[05:54] <jozzeph> enough ram
[05:54] <zircx> erm java works fine
[05:54] <jozzeph> 524 or so
[05:54] <iter> If you have over 2GB RAM and are running Sun Java, you may be suffering from a known bug with Java's memory allocation. Please contact RuneScape Technical Support
[05:54] <pike_> bouncy: ?
[05:54] <zircx> I don't understand why you're having problems, if you're installing the correct java plugin you should be fine ...
[05:54] <oskude> jozzeph: cause its all 0 or 1, yes or no, true or false, works or doesnt ;P
[05:54] <bouncy> mm
[05:55] <jozzeph> hmm
[05:55] <bouncy> it always gives me the error 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root
[05:55] <jozzeph> i could try runescape technical support
[05:55] <zircx> I have runescape running
[05:55] <Gilnim> hi guys: i need a how-to for installing flash on a 64bit ubuntu with firefoy/opera/modzilla
[05:55] <Dimensions> oskude:  and iter when i open any php file using http://localhost/test.php it opens a dialogue box open with and then opens dozen blank pages ...
[05:55] <jozzeph> and it always works zirk?
[05:55] <bouncy> or "child died"
[05:55] <Gilnim> !flash
[05:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:56] <zircx> yes  no problems ..
[05:56] <jozzeph> so what browser do u use zircx?
[05:56] <zircx> standard firefox
[05:56] <oskude> Dimensions: which apache version is runing, 1.3 or 2 ?
[05:56] <jozzeph> and what java?
[05:56] <davidw> how's this udev thing work with network devices?
[05:56] <iter> Dimensions: did you verify that line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[05:56] <zircx> i installed 1.4.2 and 1.5.0 i believe it is
[05:56] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have removed 1.3 but the page i open doesn't say any thing ...
[05:57] <jozzeph> is that sun java?
[05:57] <oskude> Dimensions: and which php version, 4 or 5 ?
[05:57] <zircx> yes absolutely
[05:57] <bouncy> pike_: do you have experience with vsftpd?
[05:57] <Dimensions> oskude:  im having php5
[05:57] <jozzeph> what screen resolution do u use zircx?
[05:57] <zircx> either that or someone decided to change runescape to flash and I've just realised my flash works
[05:57] <zircx> lol
[05:57] <zircx> 1280x1024
[05:57] <ardchoille> I plugged in (USB) a Zire 72. How do I find out which /dev/sd<whatever> it is so I can mount it? mount doesn't show it and dmesg doesn't show a /dev/?
[05:57] <oskude> Dimensions: then you need this package too, "libapache2-mod-php5" is it installed ?
[05:57] <zircx> Depth 24
[05:57] <pike_> bouncy: its what i use in ubuntu when i need ftp but not too much
[05:57] <jozzeph> ok i try that again coz then it worked with me too
[05:58] <pike_> bouncy: you have write enabled?
[05:58] <bouncy> pike_: please have you encountered a similar solution?
[05:58] <bouncy> pike_: write isn't enabled in the config
[05:58] <oskude> Dimensions: but i assume this should tell that all https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:58] <zircx> has anyone had any success with beryl and xgl? I know that people use compiz and xgl..
[05:58] <pike_> bouncy: well ive never allowed anonymous
[05:59] <bouncy> ok how about local login
[05:59] <bouncy> that would be ok, then i can work on the anonymous later
[05:59] <zircx> apparently beryl is supposedly taken over compiz-manager
[05:59] <oskude> zircx: no, i havent seen this ;P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl
[05:59] <bouncy> i set: local_enable=YES
[05:59] <mztriz> iter: I got the laptop and did ifconfig -a
[05:59] <nearfar> no ghostview in ubuntu?
[05:59] <pike_> bouncy: yeah.  its not secure in any way so i only turn it on when someone requests and then back off.  i use sftp normally
[05:59] <knewt> so, i got around it this time, but is there actually any way to tell the ubuntu expert server installer to use specified block devices for the install, instead of going through the partitioner?
[06:00] <zircx> i get it going and then it wigs out on me lol
[06:00] <iter> mztriz: and ?
[06:00] <mztriz> i got link encap: ethernet hwaddr 00:03:25:35:88:04
[06:00] <boink> apt-cache search ghostview
[06:00] <iter> mztriz: pastebin the whole thing
[06:00] <Gilnim> hi guys: i need a how-to for installing flash on a 64bit ubuntu with firefox
[06:00] <mztriz> i can't paste it, but i'm typing
[06:00] <nearfar> boink: 'apt-get install ghostview' failed
[06:00] <iter> mztriz: ok what's at the start of that line
[06:00] <iter> mztriz: the one with link encap:
[06:00] <boink> that's why you should do an apt-cache search ghostview
[06:01] <mztriz> braodcast multicast mtu:1500 Metric:1
[06:01] <iter> mztriz: should be like eth0 or ath0
[06:01] <mztriz> ohh
[06:01] <nearfar> boink: so, gs-gpl?
[06:01] <mztriz> yeah that one was
[06:01] <mztriz> eth0
[06:01] <TheGateKeeper> Gilnim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:01] <boink> if that's what you want, try it
[06:01] <Gilnim> thanks
[06:01] <oskude> knewt: if you want to go hardcore, google for "debootstrap" (thats what the installer uses, afaik)
[06:01] <nearfar> boink: btw, I'm not in gnome. (ubuntu-server + basic X11)
[06:01] <iter> mztriz: ok, and you're supposed to get a IP by DHCP or is it static
[06:01] <mztriz> there is eth0, eth1, lo,  and sit0
[06:02] <iter> mztriz: lo and sit0 you can ignore for now
[06:02] <nearfar> boink: but I'm looking for a 'viewer'
[06:02] <bouncy> pike_:  it doesn't work though
[06:02] <iter> mztriz: eth0 and eth1 are your network cards
[06:02] <ardchoille> What's up with the forums? I keep getting "Fatal error"
[06:02] <bouncy> pike_: i try to login using a user and get...#
[06:02] <mztriz> iter: it's suppose to be DHCP
[06:02] <boink> I don't know if a viewer does exist if you're not using X
[06:02] <pike_> bouncy: ill paste my very basic almost default config file one sec
[06:02] <iter> mztriz: so the network that's plugged in right now has a working dhcp server ?
[06:02] <nearfar> boink: I *am* using X, but just not gnome or kde.
[06:03] <mztriz> um, it's not plugged in right now, but I can do that. (although it doesn't work)
[06:03] <bouncy> pike_: 500 OOPS child died
[06:03] <bouncy> hi thanks
[06:03] <nearfar> otherwise, I could be using evince or kghostview
[06:03] <boink> ok .. then try any of those options under apt-cache search
[06:03] <zircx> ubuntu configures etho cards as dhcp by default from a client side as opposed to static I've noticed
[06:03] <iter> mztriz: plug it in
[06:03] <mztriz> ok brb.
[06:03] <mikeymike> mztriz: there's plugs there?
[06:03] <iter> mztriz: then run dhclient and see what happens
[06:03] <mikeymike> iter: i think she's having hardware issues
[06:03] <iter> if you can see eth0 and eth1 probably not
[06:03] <nearfar> boink: damn! I missed this package with two-character name -- gv
[06:04] <iter> might be tho
[06:04] <mikeymike> iter: ah okay
[06:04] <boink> gv - PostScript and PDF viewer for X <= would that do?
[06:04] <nearfar> :)
[06:04] <mikeymike> iter: if its not hardware issues then its simple config
[06:04] <boink> heh .. good luck, let's see if it does what you want
[06:04] <boink> before installing, check with apt-cache first
[06:04] <mikeymike> iter: she's on campus @ a university
[06:04] <mikeymike> wifi works for her in windows on her own laptop
[06:04] <mikeymike> so its not a connectivity thing unless dapper is silly from the box
[06:04] <bouncy> pike_: where can i have a look at your config?
[06:04] <mikeymike> it should accept dhcp
[06:05] <mikeymike> right?
[06:05] <KevinBooks> Hello all, I am testing a solution for embedded linux and it seems to me it is a _very_ stripped down version of ubuntu. It currently expects a dhcp server, but I want to use a static ip. I've set that up, but when I went to add the dns server to /etc/resolv.conf, it wasn't there! So, where can I add DNS servers?
[06:05] <narma> hello, I have installe apache, mysql, php and phpmyadmin but I can't display a simple file /var/www/index.php firefox want to download it when I go to localhost/index.php
[06:05] <Dimensions> iter:  in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf index.php is already there ...
[06:05] <boink> you add dns stuff in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:05] <narma> how can I do ?
[06:05] <imperfect-> Hey
[06:05] <imperfect-> Anyone here good w/ Lm sensors?
[06:05] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have already installed libapache2-mod-php5
[06:05] <KevinBooks> boink: ok, I thought since it didn't exist, it might use something else
[06:05] <imperfect-> anyoe know about like
[06:06] <pike_> bouncy: it is not a good idea to run like this all the time http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25665/
[06:06] <imperfect-> what the sensor PWN sensor is?
[06:06] <Dimensions> as i had followed the link u gave me ...
[06:07] <oskude> Dimensions: do you have "/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf" file ?
[06:07] <KevinBooks> boink: yeah, that worked, I guess I shoulda just tried it...
[06:07] <nearfar> thanks! works
[06:07] <KevinBooks> boink: thanks!
[06:08] <oskude> Dimensions: and as the document says "You may also need to actually enable it, by doing sudo a2enmod php5 followed by sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" does that work ?
[06:08] <Dimensions> oskude: nah i am missing that conf file ...
[06:09] <mztriz> ok i'm back
[06:09] <mikeymike> finally.
[06:09] <mikeymike> :p
[06:09] <Dimensions> oskude: i got this message ...  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[06:10] <bouncy> pike_:  this is almost identical to mine
[06:10] <oskude> Dimensions: try reinstalling "libapache2-mod-php5", cause that file delivers that config file
[06:10] <bouncy> pike_: but it won't work
[06:10] <mztriz> iter: what do you want me to do ?
[06:10] <dalfz> i have serious crash-problems with openoffice spreadsheet, it crashes often when i change cell contents. anyone else having problems?
[06:10] <SGL> Howdy
[06:10] <oskude> Dimensions: did you read that howto i gave ? it says "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName - then edit sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and add ServerName localhost at the end of the file"
[06:10] <bouncy> pike_: i use your config, for example, restart vsftpd, try to connect and it tells me 500 OOPS Child Died
[06:10] <SGL> How do I become a sudo-er on my computer???
[06:10] <knewt> oskude: yeah, that's great if you have something already installed on the box. not if you're starting from scratch though
[06:11] <pooru> hey, i was able to map my secondary HD (hdb1) to /media/windows. yet under computer "Local Slave" still doesn't work
[06:11] <xUBUNTUx> anyone uses kiba-dock? i can't change the most of its properties
[06:11] <pike_> bouncy: hmm
[06:11] <hsunda3> hello! does anyone know of a good symbolic math tool in the Ubuntu repos?
[06:11] <oskude> knewt: knoppix ? (or other "live" distro)
[06:12] <pooru> it says that now hdb1 is mapped to /media/windows. is there a way to redirect this?
[06:12] <oskude> knewt: but i didnt actually understand what you really want...
[06:13] <Dimensions> oskude:  im sorry i dont follow that line what would be my ServerName
[06:13] <SGL> How do I gain sudo rights??
[06:13] <SGL> I have the password
[06:13] <highneko> Anyone know how to stop join quit part messages in xchat-gnome?
[06:13] <hsunda3> SGL: execute sudo -i on the command line
[06:13] <SGL> hsunda3: nothing happens
[06:13] <SGL> hsunda3: I just get my $ back
[06:14] <oskude> Dimensions: read the help page... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-6ce180906ddbc141ef4b213f82465515a8ad3031
[06:14] <hsunda3> highneko: I have been trying to find that for a long time ... not very successful. Somebody has written a plugin for it though .. (which I use on my Windows XChat)
[06:14] <hsunda3> SGL: now that's surprising ... what happens if you execute 'su -'
[06:14] <bouncy> pike_:  Ha!
[06:14] <bouncy> pike_: I just tried it in edgy and it works perfectly
[06:14] <bouncy> pike_: are you using dapper or edgy?
[06:14] <pike_> bouncy: dapper
[06:15] <bouncy> pike_: me too
[06:15] <SGL> hsunda3: authentication failure
[06:15] <Llewxam> can anyone please help me fix my xserver problem? i got this running somehow but if i shudown or restart i get that black screen again.
[06:15] <pike_> bouncy: how about anon_root=/home/ftp/    ?
[06:15] <bouncy> pike_: but for some reason the vsftpd is borked
[06:15] <hsunda3> SGL: is that the error you get? 'authentication failure' ?
[06:15] <bouncy> pike_: already tried that
[06:15] <oskude> Dimensions: it says "...and add ServerName localhost at the end of the file" so you add that line "ServerName localhost" ...
[06:15] <SGL> hsunda3: yeah...
[06:15] <Dimensions> ummm ...
[06:15] <pike_> bouncy: well its an excuse to upgrade i guess :)
[06:15] <hsunda3> SGL what happens if you try 'su - root'? Same error?
[06:15] <SGL> hsunda3: It says "Authentication failure" "Sorry"
[06:15] <bouncy> well i won't
[06:15] <oskude> Dimensions: as you can see it has another font as the "normal" text on that webpage...
[06:16] <mikeymike> how do you find your local ip
[06:16] <SGL> yes
[06:16] <hsunda3> mikeymike: using ifconfig output
[06:16] <SGL> hsunda3: same error
[06:16] <mikeymike> thank you
[06:16] <bouncy> i've spent 5 months getting dapper the way i want it and I appreciate the extended support, I want to stick with dapper for a couple of years.
[06:16] <Dimensions> yeah sorry oskude abt not getting the point ...
[06:16] <bouncy> i did install edgy in vmware just to check it out though ;)
[06:16] <mikeymike> hsunda3: what is en0
[06:16] <hsunda3> SGL: then there is one thing only I can think of. Reboot, and in Grub boot menu, choose the rescue mode. You will be logged in using a root prompt. Change the password using the passwd command, and check to see if you are in the sudoers file (though not necessary)
[06:17] <oskude> Dimensions: then ask again
[06:17] <hsunda3> mikeymike: hang on .. just a second
[06:17] <SGL> what is the sudoers file???
[06:17] <mikeymike> hsunda3: im on a mac though it might be different..
[06:17] <Llewxam> can anyone please help me fix my xserver problem? i got this running somehow but if i shudown or restart i get that black screen again.
[06:17] <hsunda3> mikeymike: oh. Ubuntu on a mac?
[06:17] <mikeymike> i have adaptors like lo0 and gif0 and stf0 and en0 and en1
[06:17] <mikeymike> hsunda3: no os x
[06:17] <SGL> hsunda3: I did the following: while logged in as this user, I deleted this user and recreated this user. Now I have this problem
[06:17] <mikeymike> hsunda3: im trying to help mztriz
[06:18] <hsunda3> mikeymike: eh? that's most interesting. I haven't seen adaptors like that :)
[06:18] <mikeymike> under en0 my local ip shows up
[06:18] <mikeymike> hsunda3: that might be why
[06:18] <hsunda3> SGL: sudoers file is the listing of who can become root on the machine using their own password
[06:18] <mikeymike> im guessing en0 is my eth0
[06:18] <mikeymike> on the mac
[06:18] <mikeymike> archaic bsd
[06:18] <hsunda3> mikeymike: I am guessing so too... sorry havent used macs much .. atleast not macs on the command line
[06:18] <SGL> hsunda3: where do I find it?
[06:18] <mikeymike> :[
[06:18] <Dimensions> oskude:  and iter thanks alot buddies ... it worked .... now thank you so muchhhhhhhhhhhh.........
[06:18] <oskude> Llewxam: the file "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" contains xservers error messages, you could look there
[06:18] <mikeymike> hsunda3: okay
[06:18] <oskude> Dimensions: and what was the solution/problem ?
[06:19] <bouncy> hey i just solved it
[06:19] <pike_> bouncy: permissions problem?
[06:19] <sholden> Has anyone had any luck using compiz/beryl with MergedFB?  I'm going through dual screen withdrawal, but don't want to loose my compiz perks :)
[06:20] <bouncy> pike_:  I purged vsftpd, deleted all remaining files and directories, and deleted the ftp user
[06:20] <SGL> hsunda3: where do I find it?
[06:20] <pike_> ah
[06:20] <bouncy> i think the user FTP was causing the problem
[06:20] <Dimensions> oskude:  ... i couldn't load php page ... from the server ... it was problem and i guess reason was it couldn't read the server name which was localhost ...
[06:20] <pricechild> hi all, i want to learn how to rebuild lrm, lrmc & nvidia-glx with the latest nvidia beta drivers on edgy
[06:20] <bouncy> because that user was created when I install proftpd
[06:20] <pricechild> could anyone help?
[06:20] <bouncy> i'm so happy!
[06:20] <bouncy> yay!
[06:20] <bouncy> HAPPY HUG DAY!
[06:20] <piratepenguin> what will it take to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, when it's released?
[06:20] <oskude> Dimensions: hmm, i still get that _warning_ and yet it works...
[06:21] <xav> lol
[06:21] <Llewxam> i see no errors in the log except for one.
[06:21] <iter> ok sorry
[06:21] <knewt> oskude: the volumes ("partitions") i want to install to are device-mapper block devices. the partition editor doesn't have a clue about them. i'd like to be able to tell the installer: "Ok, /dev/.... should be used as /, /dev/.... should be used as /boot, etc etc"
[06:21] <xav> someone managed to post on ubuntu forums that ubuntu forums didn't work
[06:21] <iter> boss was in
[06:21] <piratepenguin> !upgrade
[06:21] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:21] <SGL> Where can I find the sudoers file??
[06:21] <SGL> !help
[06:21] <Gotti> when is edgy scheduled for its official release?
[06:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:21] <Llewxam> and it's a missing font. other than that nothing.
[06:21] <pike_> SGL: /etc/sudoers
[06:21] <pricechild> Gotti: 26h
[06:21] <dang`r`us> hi
[06:22] <SGL> ahh ok
[06:22] <Gotti> cool...thanks.
[06:22] <xav> why is everyone asking this question
[06:22] <dang`r`us> checkinstall seems to be broken, it always complains about lacking permissions to write e.g. to /usr/bin
[06:22] <oskude> knewt: sorry, never worked with lvm... so i have just used /dev/hda1 and so on...
[06:22] <iter> mztriz: still there?
[06:22] <iter> mztriz: run dhclient
[06:22] <xav> who cares when edgy is released.. man, this is so boring
[06:22] <dang`r`us> but isn't the point of checkinstall that it runs in a fakeroot environment where it can write everywhere?
[06:22] <xav> I wish there wasn't any release date
[06:22] <pricechild> it wil be changed
[06:22] <Tokenbad> is there a partition program besides gparted?  I tried it and let it sit for almost 30 mins and it never finished trying to partition the drive
[06:23] <oskude> Tokenbad: i use mostly "cfdisk"
[06:23] <pike_> Tokenbad: you want to just erase or create new partitions or resize existing?
[06:23] <iter> Tokenbad: I second cfdisk
[06:23] <mikeymike> someone tell me if this network adaptor is working properly by this ifconfig output Eth0   Link ecnap:Ethernet Hwaddr 00:03)25:8B:04 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[06:24] <mikeymike> RX Packets:0 erros:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:24] <mikeymike> TXpackets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0b) TX bytes 0(0.0b) Interrupt:50
[06:24] <iter> mikeymike: no
[06:24] <iter> not UP
[06:24] <mikeymike> iter: woops
[06:24] <mikeymike> iter: you're back
[06:24] <iter> yeah had to discuss strategery with the boss there for a sec
[06:24] <mikeymike> iter: ah okay
[06:24] <mikeymike> so she did the ifconfig -a
[06:24] <mikeymike> thats her output
[06:24] <mikeymike> the eth0 and eth1
[06:24] <iter> right it's not up
[06:24] <mikeymike> dont have any ip's
[06:24] <iter> should say UP BROADCAST etc etc
[06:25] <mikeymike> yea
[06:25] <iter> but run dhclient
[06:25] <iter> see where that gets you
[06:25] <oskude> mikeymike: dont see any inet addr there... and please dont paste here :)
[06:25] <mikeymike> oskude: i didnt think so
[06:25] <mikeymike> iter: dhclient comes with dapper?
[06:25] <dang`r`us> it does
[06:25] <mikeymike> okay
[06:25] <iter> well if you want to get an IP you better have dhclient ;p
[06:26] <mikeymike> iter: haha okay
[06:26] <mikeymike> iter: its not on my mac :)
[06:26] <scheuri> hi all
[06:26] <pricechild> can anyone here help me with rebuilding lrm an nvidia-glx/
[06:26] <mikeymike> /bin/sh: line 1: dhclient: command not found
[06:26] <mikeymike> :)
[06:27] <iter> is that on her machine?
[06:27] <mikeymike> iter: negatory
[06:27] <scheuri> anyone an idea why all of a sudden an upgrade is asking me for "yes" or "no" because it thinks it comes from a untrusty source?
[06:27] <mikeymike> iter: she said its bound to 172.23.36.60
[06:27] <iter> ifconfig -a to make sure
[06:27] <iter> then ping google.com
[06:27] <mikeymike> iter: okay
[06:28] <oskude> scheuri: have you manually added repos ?
[06:28] <Justm3> hey] 
[06:28] <Justm3> ive got the ubuntu cd
[06:28] <Justm3> today
[06:28] <mikeymike> iter: she has an ip now:)
[06:28] <mikeymike> iter: pinging in progress
[06:28] <Justm3> and want to ask qs about the partitioning system
[06:28] <oskude> mikeymike: apt-file search show that dhclient is in "dhcp-client" package
[06:28] <mikeymike> iter: connected
[06:28] <scheuri> oskude: no, happend on a freshly installed ubuntu as well as on my machine...no other repos than those from ubuntu (incl. backports) and kubutu.org
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: ok she's set
[06:29] <mikeymike> oskude: awesome
[06:29] <mikeymike> oskude: im on os x man
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: make sure it's correct
[06:29] <mikeymike> iter: how can she config it to wokr
[06:29] <mikeymike> iter: so that her friend doesn't have to run dhclient
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: should say something like auto eth0
[06:29] <mikeymike> iter: okay
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:30] <oskude> scheuri: hmm, and sure theres no "3rd" party repos ? (as backport is not on as default) can you pastebin your sources.list ?
[06:30] <scheuri> oskude: yep...gimme a sec
[06:30] <Khamael> http://tux.crystalxp.net/
[06:30] <xenoNfluX> !sources
[06:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:31] <gangerli> hi all
[06:31] <Justm3>  ive got the ubuntu cds just today and wanna install it but when i reach the partitioning step (step 5) i am afraid to make any move as i dunno if something i do will/won't delete my files
[06:31] <gangerli> somebody help me please
[06:31] <scheuri> oskude: still...on a freshly installed machine (alternate 6.06.1 CD) there should not be anything like this...
[06:31] <iter> Justm3: you can easily lose data while partitioning if you're not very careful
[06:31] <oskude> scheuri: if you have backports on, its not "fresh"!
[06:31] <Justm3> plz tell me
[06:31] <iter> Justm3: be sure you know what you're removing etc
[06:31] <knewt> oskude: is there a recommended place to ask about something like this, since there doesn't seem to ever be anyone about here who knows about the installer stuff
[06:31] <iter> Justm3: you have one hard disk?
[06:32] <TheGateKeeper> Justm3: have you got windows already installed on this drive?
[06:32] <Justm3> i have nothing on sda7 and want to put unbuntu in that partition
[06:32] <Justm3> yes
[06:32] <scheuri> oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25668/
[06:32] <iter> Justm3: just install to sda7
[06:32] <gangerli> how do I make sure I have BUP enabled before I start burning CDs?
[06:32] <iter> Justm3: install grub to mbr
[06:32] <scheuri> oskude: on the freshly installed machine I have NOT made ANY thing to the sources.list
[06:32] <mikeymike> iter: so /etc/network/interfaces <<--- edit that to say auto eth0
[06:32] <oskude> knewt: hmm, mailing list, forum, google ?
[06:32] <mikeymike> iter: after that it will work without having to run dhclient?
[06:32] <iter> mikeymike: it should say some other stuff too
[06:33] <mikeymike> iter: right
[06:33] <Justm3> iter: but when i reach the 2nd phase on step5, it gives me options of something like /media/sda5, sda6, sda7, sda1 what abt that
[06:33] <iter> mikeymike: auto eth0 just means try to setup eth0
[06:33] <TheGateKeeper> Justm3: choose manual patitioning and tell it to use sda7
[06:33] <iter> mikeymike: not automatically get an ip
[06:33] <oskude> scheuri: ok, that is not fresh... which repo gives the errors ?
[06:33] <xamox> how do I enabled mod rewrite for apache2?
[06:33] <Justm3> iter: how do i choose to install on sda7?
[06:33] <iter> mikeymike: under auto eth0 it should say iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:33] <iter> iirc
[06:33] <iter> Justm3: click on it?
[06:33] <mikeymike> iter: so what exactly was her problem then? dhclient fixed it apparently.....
[06:34] <iter> mikeymike: might not have that auto eth0 line in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:34] <gangerli> somebody please :)
[06:34] <iter> that would do it
[06:34] <pike_> Justm3: you could maybe just select it and change the type or whatever to / and tell it to format ext3 or reiser or whatever
[06:34] <Zeral> net.
[06:34] <mikeymike> iter: so if she adds that it should work then
[06:35] <iter> mikeymike: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105764
[06:35] <Justm3> pike_: so if i just choose sda7 as "/" root, then will my prob be solved?? and should i make all other partitions "/media/sda#" ??
[06:35] <mikeymike> iter: thanks
[06:36] <hoss_bert> I managed to mess up my grub installation (described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270736). I'd really appreciated if anyone could help
[06:36] <iter> mikeymike: basically it just needs two lines for eth0
[06:36] <scheuri> oskude: on the freshly installed machine (with NO backports) the ch.archive.ubuntu.com and security
[06:36] <iter> mikeymike: auto eth0
[06:36] <iter> mikeymike: and iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:36] <Tokenbad> oskude I can't seem to get it to read the drive
[06:36] <jozzeph> hello
[06:36] <iter> mikeymike: it also needs lines for lo of course
[06:36] <oskude> scheuri: hmm, maybe wait a little, or try another mirror...
[06:36] <scheuri> oskude: sorry...the paste is indeed my machine and not the freshly installed one...
[06:36] <mikeymike> iter: okay
[06:36] <jozzeph> i still have a problem
[06:36] <pike_> Justm3: you wont need anything else but swap everything will be created under / you have a swap partition already? you could just make a swapfile under / but thats more involved..
[06:37] <jozzeph> every 4th time i start runescape it won't work
[06:37] <scheuri> well then
[06:37] <scheuri> thansk
[06:37] <scheuri> thansk
[06:37] <twb> Is 6.10b known to (not) work under Qemu (with kQemu loaded)?
[06:37] <oskude> scheuri: btw, i few times had "timing" problems with de mirror, and now using at, i havent had problems since :)
[06:37] <Justm3> pike_: how do i setup a swap partition (do i need to)?
[06:37] <jozzeph> my java applet works about 3 of 4 times and 1 time it does not work
[06:38] <oskude> Tokenbad: hmm, forgot your problem, sorry :(
[06:38] <jozzeph> why does my java does not work sometimes only?
[06:38] <g333k_work> hi, what are the x-windows runlevel for ubuntu?
[06:38] <gangerli> hm, now, is there anyone willing to help? just one noob question.. :)
[06:38] <iter> g333k_work: 5
[06:38] <Tokenbad> oskude, partition of hard drive
[06:38] <oskude> Tokenbad: what did you do, what error did you got ?
[06:38] <oskude> !ask
[06:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:38] <iter> gangerli: you just asked it ;p
[06:38] <pike_> Justm3: if you dont have one delete sda7 and then create two partitions from it one small like 256 to 1024 mb depending on how much space you have make the small one swap and the big one /
[06:39] <iter> gangerli: now ask your real question
[06:39] <jozzeph> why does my java sometimes doesn't work?
[06:39] <jozzeph> java should work or not...
[06:39] <gangerli> how can I make sure Buffer underrun protection is enabled before burning Cds?
[06:39] <gangerli> or is it enabled internally?
[06:39] <iter> jozzeph: if you run 'java -version' 4x in a row does it work ?
[06:39] <iter> jozzeph: if so then java works
[06:39] <iter> jozzeph: the problem is the applet most likely
[06:39] <jozzeph> so it works 3 times on a row iter
[06:39] <iter> jozzeph: check the forums for runescape
[06:40] <javier> how can i do
[06:40] <jozzeph> ok
[06:40] <iter> jozzeph: seems like other ppl have this sort of issue
[06:40] <jozzeph> but i didnt see it there
[06:40] <jozzeph> i looked on the main forums
[06:41] <jozzeph> the forums feature a lot of other problems but not mine
[06:41] <mikeymike> iter: if she can get the laptop online (which i think it is now) i am going to ssh ot it
[06:41] <mikeymike> and fix it
[06:41] <mikeymike> lol
[06:41] <jozzeph> contacting runescape does not work on ubuntu
[06:41] <iter> gangerli: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/unofficial_ubuntu_starter_guide/index_097.html
[06:42] <jozzeph> is there a way to run signed applets for java?
[06:42] <gangerli> thx ^^
[06:42] <jozzeph> is there a way to run signed applets in ubuntu-java?
[06:43] <Tokenbad> oskude, well this can't be good...I have an 80 gig drive...had over 20 gigs free..so was using gparted to partition 20 gigs of it to another partition....now it is saying that drive is full...
[06:44] <oskude> Tokenbad: sorry, i hardly use gparted...
[06:44] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have a simple line of code in a .php just to say hello ... when i open it ... its giving permission error ... while i have also done chown -R user:root /var/www
[06:44] <iter> gangerli: I think that link is old
[06:44] <iter> gangerli: you want to run gconf-editor
[06:44] <iter> gangerli: then browse to apps-->nautilus_cd_buner
[06:45] <boink> !buildessentials
[06:45] <iter> Dimensions: the webserver doesn't run as root
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <oskude> Dimensions: apache is running user "www-data"...
[06:45] <gangerli> well I found the appointed section,
[06:45] <boink> damm .. what's that called? build-essentials?
[06:45] <Tokenbad> oskude, I can't seem to figure out the one you said...
[06:45] <jozzeph> error message on java: unexpected mouse position
[06:45] <pike_> Tokenbad: what does du -ah /tmp say?
[06:45] <xamox> !mod rewrite
[06:45] <Dimensions> ahhan ... my user is filter ... so i can't run any program page made ?
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mod rewrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <oskude> Tokenbad: and i still dont know whats the real problem...
[06:46] <phatmonkey> i'm having trouble getting the SPDIF coax input working on my audigy 2 card - i can't find any relevant options in alsamixer
[06:46] <gangerli> it's the same, wheter I do it from a terminal or follow the instructions
[06:46] <gangerli> wel thanks again
[06:46] <iter> sho
[06:46] <Tokenbad> pike a bunch of lines of stuff
[06:46] <jozzeph> i smashed my keyboard coz java didnt work!
[06:46] <pike_> last line should be total size of folder
[06:46] <oskude> Dimensions: as i said, if you want apache to show webpages, the user "www-data" has to be able to read those files
[06:47] <Tokenbad> oskude, ok...here was the problem...I had started gparted to partition my 80 gig drive...but it sat for 30 mins and nothing...so I killed it...
[06:47] <hoss_bert> how do u boot into rescue mode if your root partition is /dev/hda3
[06:47] <Tokenbad> pike like 60K
[06:47] <mypapit> of
[06:47] <jozzeph> seems like smashing the keyboard worked for java
[06:47] <Dimensions> oskude:  even if i login as my own user 'filter' to ubuntu i will have to make that user www-data ? ... and how do i enable it ?
[06:48] <Tokenbad> oskude, so figured would try to find something else to partition it
[06:48] <oskude> Dimensions: and an easier way would be to use "public_html" dir in your users home dir...
[06:49] <Dimensions> u mean to create a directory named public_html ?
[06:49] <oskude> Tokenbad: ok, lets start with "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin the result
[06:49] <xenoNfluX> Dimensions: ...
[06:49] <xenoNfluX> !lamp
[06:49] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:49] <xenoNfluX> look that up
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> Tokenbad: you did press 'apply changes' ?
[06:49] <xenoNfluX> it'll help you with what you need to know for your Apache configuration
[06:50] <Tokenbad> TheGateKeeper, yes...and it sat for like said...30 mins with that little thing going back and forth
[06:50] <Tokenbad> but not doing anything
[06:50] <jozzeph> sometimes my java works after restarting my browser...
[06:51] <oskude> Dimensions: if you do a dir /home/yourusername/public_html" you can acces that with your browser at "http://localhost/~yourusernam" that way you dont have to mess with root user rights...
[06:51] <jozzeph> i dont understand why i am the only one with my java problem
[06:51] <Tokenbad> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25671/
[06:51] <jozzeph> java should work or it should not
[06:52] <jozzeph> but my java only works sometimes
[06:52] <jozzeph> thats strange
[06:52] <segfault> jozzeph, which java are u using
[06:52] <oskude> jozzeph: yup, java is "strange" ;)
[06:52] <jozzeph> i only use 1 browser
[06:52] <jozzeph> 1 java the sun
[06:52] <oskude> Tokenbad: ok, and what do you want to do know ?
[06:53] <oskude> Tokenbad: *now
[06:53] <jozzeph> sometimes it works 3 of the 4 times it works
[06:53] <jozzeph> all on 1 single program
[06:53] <jozzeph> 1 browser 1 java 1 program
[06:53] <oskude> Tokenbad: and why do you have W95 Ext'd (LBA) ? and why extended partitions anyway?
[06:53] <xenoNfluX> I blame RuneScape
[06:53] <jozzeph> possible xeno
[06:53] <xenoNfluX> RuneScape used to have a bad memory leak
[06:54] <jozzeph> but still i find it strange
[06:54] <Tokenbad> well....see before I started gparted and tried to partition the drive...I had an 80 gig drive...used about 45 gigs..and had over 20 gigs free...so wanted to partition the drive so could use the 20 gig part to do another copy of ubuntu on that partition...
[06:54] <Tokenbad> the lba and stuff I don't know
[06:54] <jozzeph> i hate to use windows now
[06:54] <Dimensions> thanks oskude and xenoNfluX
[06:54] <Dimensions> take care guys ...
[06:54] <jenda> I have serious networking trouble...
[06:54] <xenoNfluX> :)
[06:54] <Dimensions> :)
[06:54] <Dimensions> buhbyee..
[06:55] <iter> jenda: sup
[06:55] <Bergcube> Is there any way to modify the "Log off / shut down" window thingy you get when you click the power-symbol in the tray?  I'd like to remove all but the "Log off" option for the users.
[06:55] <jenda> ifconfig says my IP is 192.168.1.100... my router says it forwards port 55001 to that IP...
[06:55] <jenda> And still the port is closed, according to https://www.grc.com/x/portprobe=55001
[06:55] <jenda> and according to Azureus.
[06:55] <oskude> Tokenbad: and which partition is that you created ?
[06:56] <Tokenbad> its gone...
[06:56] <jenda> I have a Zyxel Prestige modem/router
[06:56] <iter> jenda: do netstat -tap
[06:56] <jenda> And this used to work :(
[06:56] <iter> jenda: make sure port is open on your machine
[06:56] <Tokenbad> now gparted is saying I have the 80 gig drive but 75 of it is used
[06:56] <pooru> anyone good at configuring secondary NTFS drives?
[06:56] <jenda> iter: which part of netstat -tap is useful?
[06:56] <jenda> And how do I 'open' the port on the PC?
[06:56] <oskude> Tokenbad: as i said, i have no idea of gparted...
[06:56] <iter> jenda: you're looking for Local Address
[06:57] <iter> jenda: should say something liek localhost:55001
[06:57] <iter> jenda: and state should eb LISTEN
[06:57] <mikeymike> iter: is there a way to avoid routers not allowing port 22 by assing ssh to a different port?
[06:57] <oskude> Tokenbad: and i think that "fdisk -l" should show unpartitioned space if there where any, so you have all space partitioned...
[06:57] <iter> jenda: actually should be *:55001 not localhost:55001
[06:57] <pooru> i'm having trouble getting the "Local Slave" drive to work under "Computer"
[06:58] <iter> mikeymike: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:58] <jenda> iter: nothing there.
[06:58] <jenda> How can I open it?
[06:58] <oskude> Tokenbad: is the hdd used yet ?
[06:58] <nosilver4u> hey, i'm trying to get canon brightq printer drivers to work
[06:58] <mikeymike> iter: okay
[06:58] <iter> jenda: if you're sure that your software is running you might have a firewall
[06:58] <nosilver4u> it keeps giving me some sort of permissions error when i run te config utiity
[06:59] <oskude>  Tokenbad as i would get rid of that hdd2 with any means...
[06:59] <mikeymike> iter: after editing that config how do you refresh it?
[06:59] <mikeymike> is it live?
[06:59] <iter> mikeymike: /etc/inid.d/ssh restart
[06:59] <nosilver4u> it works in gentoo, and it used to work in ubuntu (breezy), any ideas what has changed with the cups config?
[06:59] <mikeymike> ok
[06:59] <oskude> Tokenbad: you know you can have upto 4 primary partitions, so no need for extended ?
[06:59] <jenda> iter: most certainly not... default ubuntu, mostly.
[06:59] <brian_> I'm havine problems with Boson packages I can't get any music I have sound. but I get an error loading whatever .mp3 file boson is trying to play I have libvorbis libopenal and all dev libs installed
[07:00] <iter> jenda: can you do 'telnet localhost 55001'
[07:00] <garth_> allo
[07:00] <graveson> can vmware use the video adapter directly- i notice it use something called vmware svga driver ?
[07:00] <garth_> can I talk about bit torrents here, getting real slow speeds
[07:00] <vanisher> quick question, is partitioning still needed or is one partition just enough (/)
[07:00] <iter> garth_: it's not a bug it's a feature ;\
[07:00] <imperfect-> Can someo
[07:00] <oskude> garth_: and you think thats ubuntus fault ?
[07:01] <Web> anyone feel like answering a question for an ubuntu newb?
[07:01] <iter> Web: shoot
[07:01] <jvai> garth: bump up your upload speed
[07:01] <Tokenbad> oskude, I didn't actually make the extended
[07:01] <oskude> vanisher: i allways have only / and swap...
[07:01] <Web> concerns File Sharing and using existing NTFS patitioned hard drives
[07:01] <vanisher> rgr, lol i'm still in vmware esx mode ;)
[07:01] <garth_> yup, maybe when i dowload to disk i get 40kb, on bitorent i get 1.5kb
[07:01] <nosilver4u> graveson: no, it can't
[07:01] <brian_> Who ever packaged the Boson debs did a poor job most of the dependancy are left out and you have to mark them manually :(
[07:01] <Tokenbad> oskude, and yes the 80 gig drive has 45 gigs of stuff on it
[07:01] <oskude> vanisher: means, / and swap are required (you could do without swap, but is not recommended)
[07:02] <jenda> iter: connected...
[07:02] <mikeymike> iter: any ideas as to what port i could reassign sshd to to get around typical university router-gayness
[07:02] <garth_> how do i register
[07:02] <iter> jenda: ok so your machine is listening
[07:02] <garth_> web_ give it a go
[07:02] <oskude> Tokenbad: i hope youre not talking about partition resizing ?
[07:02] <iter> mikeymike: if they're blocking incoming port 22 they are pretty tight-ass
[07:02] <brian_> I'm almost to the point to where i'm going to compile boson myself
[07:02] <mikeymike> iter: yeah...
[07:02] <vanisher> oskude: Thx! trying to convert from windows ;-)
[07:02] <bartist> hello everybody
[07:02] <bartist> do somebody know if can i run VBA macros in openoffice?
[07:03] <mikeymike> iter: i cant even get her ip address.. it keeps giving me a local 192
[07:03] <iter> mikeymike: might try a high port >1024
[07:03] <imperfect-> CPU_PWM
[07:03] <mikeymike> iter: even when she goes to ipchicken.com
[07:03] <imperfect-> Anyone know what that is?
[07:03] <mikeymike> it gives her some 192 address
[07:03] <imperfect-> as a sensor?
[07:03] <Tokenbad> oskude, no..I have 2 drives...a small 6 gig drive and an 80 gig drive...the 80 gig drive was what i wanted to partition
[07:03] <Web> If I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?
[07:03] <iter> mikeymike: is that the same address as her machine gets?
[07:03] <iter> mikeymike: thought it was a 172. address
[07:03] <mikeymike> iter: let me have her do if config again
[07:03] <oskude> Tokenbad: yes, i know... but still dont really know whats the problem...
[07:03] <iter> mikeymike: also go to whatismyip.com
[07:04] <oskude> Tokenbad: i need commands and errors :)
[07:04] <mikeymike> iter: 2 of those type sites gave me the same 192 address
[07:04] <mikeymike> 192.122.237.11
[07:04] <jenda> iter: any ideas, then?
[07:04] <iter> jenda: can you do telnet 192.168.1.100 55001
[07:04] <C-O-L-T> hello when I am inserting pictures to OO Impress than OO crashes what to do
[07:05] <Web> If I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?
[07:05] <jenda> iter: connected...
[07:05] <atoponce> where can i find a list of the non-free software that ubuntu ships with?
[07:05] <mikeymike> iter: 192.122.237.11 is lan isn't it.....
[07:05] <mikeymike> how are these webpages giving her her lan address....
[07:05] <iter> jenda: machine is configured ok then, time to double/triple check your router config
[07:06] <oskude> C-O-L-T: i would test another (format) pictures and see if it crashes again...
[07:06] <mikeymike> some weird tunneling going on
[07:06] <iter> mikeymike: 192.122 isn't private
[07:06] <darkanyel> anyone can help me to configure a webcam???
[07:06] <mikeymike> its not?
[07:06] <iter> mikeymike: 192.168 is
[07:06] <mikeymike> iter: ah
[07:06] <jenda> iter, I have :(
[07:06] <C-O-L-T> oskude: but it is jpg
[07:06] <C-O-L-T> oskude: should I reinstall?
[07:06] <oskude> C-O-L-T: ... why reinstall ?
[07:07] <bartist> I have a 30GB drive
[07:07] <bartist> how much GB should I attribute to my root, home and swap partition?
[07:07] <oskude> C-O-L-T: im just suggesting to narrow down the cause of the problem...
[07:07] <we2by> firefox is frozen :(
[07:07] <C-O-L-T> oskude: to solve that problem
[07:07] <Tokenbad> oskude, ok so tried  cfdisk /dev/hdd  and it gave error saying can't read drive
[07:07] <C-O-L-T> oskude: it does the same with every picture
[07:07] <oskude> bartist: i never have swap bigger than 1gb
[07:07] <C-O-L-T> format
[07:07] <vanisher> bartist: just heared that 2 partitions are enough, one / and one swap
[07:07] <garth_> hate to do it agian but if I am downloading at 35KB and bitorrents is downloading at 1,5KB surely something is wrong
[07:07] <oskude> Tokenbad: did you reboot after gparted "freezed" ?
[07:07] <bartist> oskude, now i am running with a 1gb swap
[07:08] <bartist> oskude, but it is never used
[07:08] <Tokenbad> oskude, yes
[07:08] <oskude> C-O-L-T: have you searched google if others have the same problem ?
[07:08] <mikeymike> hey iter how do you start sshd
[07:08] <Web>  If I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?
[07:08] <garth_> and can some body let me know how to register my nickname?
[07:08] <bartist> so, of my 30GB, there is 1GB of swap.
[07:08] <bartist> how should i divide the 29GB remaining?
[07:08] <eracc> What is the apt-* command to download/install security updates only please?
[07:08] <iter> mikeymike: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:09] <mikeymike> thanks
[07:09] <atoponce> basically, i'm looking for the non-free software in the restricted repo that ships by default
[07:09] <mjr> bartist, don't. make it a single root partition.
[07:09] <iter> Web: are you asking if you can overwrite windows server partition or what
[07:09] <sheshu> hi
[07:09] <oskude> bartist: for root i would do atleast 5-8gb (but i got all in / so i got the rest of hd)
[07:09] <eracc> Or for that matter what is the apt-* command to download and install all updates?
[07:09] <iter> Web: you can install ubuntu server and then see/access ntfs drives, yes
[07:10] <iter> Web: ntfs support is not rock solid yet though
[07:10] <iter> Web: would not recommend it for production
[07:10] <mikeymike> iter:  /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:10] <oskude> bartist: actually i got 2 ubuntus on a 20gb drive here :)
[07:10] <mikeymike> bash: /etc/init.d/ssh: No such file or directory
[07:10] <bartist> do you recommand to separate the /home from /?
[07:10] <garth_> register..............me.......name.................can anyone help please????
[07:10] <Cornelius> !mplayer
[07:10] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[07:10] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:10] <dark_light> garth_, /nickserv help register
[07:10] <mikeymike> iter: did you mean sshd -start ??
[07:11] <oskude> bartist: i used to, but then one was full and the other had plenty of space... i dont see any reason to make own partition for home
[07:11] <iter> mikeymike: try taht
[07:11] <Web> hmmm ok thanks for the info iter
 Web: would not recommend it for production > ideed the web is very unstable :)
[07:11] <bartist> oskude, here is my situation
[07:11] <bartist> oskude, i have 1GB swap and 20GB root
[07:11] <mikeymike> iter: eh...
[07:11] <mikeymike> im not sure
[07:11] <mikeymike> if thats working
[07:11] <bartist> I want to reinstall a fresh ubuntu
[07:11] <mikeymike> lol
[07:11] <mikeymike> no command
[07:12] <bartist> without loosing my home
[07:12] <iter> mikeymike: /usr/sbin/sshd
[07:12] <bartist> what can i do?
[07:12] <rodneyk> sudo is for pussies!
[07:12] <vanisher> bartist: tar them to a network drive
[07:12] <mikeymike> iter: thanks much
[07:12] <oskude> bartist: backup your home
[07:12] <bartist> vanisher, i have not acces to a network drive
[07:13] <bartist> oskude, isn't there a way to delete everything but my home?
[07:13] <oskude> bartist: but thats another thing i never do, i do fresh install of my home too (i got "my files" somewhere else)
[07:13] <dark_light> bartist, it's just a matter to when partitioning only format the / and swap
[07:13] <skuarecircle> nickserv durban register
[07:14] <bartist> dark_light : my home is in /
[07:14] <mikeymike> iter: this is disturbing....
[07:14] <mikeymike> iter: no sshd on this dapper install
[07:14] <iter> didn't get installed I guess
[07:14] <mikeymike> since when has linux not came with sshd....
[07:14] <iter> apt-get install ssh sshd
[07:14] <mikeymike> iter: yeah
[07:14] <oskude> bartist: i do new install only when new versions come out, so i dont even want my old configs in home...
[07:14] <dark_light> bartist, that's too bad
[07:14] <vanisher> mikeymike: Top security :D no ssh/sshd
[07:14] <mikeymike> lol
[07:14] <bartist> i have backed up some file in my ipod
[07:14] <mikeymike> HAHA
[07:14] <excitatory> bartist: well, back it up to a dvd, or second hard drive, or cd or something...  in the future, keep /home on a separate partition or even better and second hard drive to avoid this issue..
[07:15] <jenda> iter: Doesn't this telnet output look like it's set? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25674/
[07:15] <mikeymike> i dont think this is tinfoil hat linux....
[07:15] <mikeymike> lol
[07:15] <dark_light> bartist, now you know why is a good idea have a separate /home (another thing is: when /home is full the system continues because / is in another partition..)
[07:15] <mikeymike> i think even tinfoil hat linux comes with sshd!
[07:15] <bartist> so as i am planing to do a fresh instal
[07:15] <Web> iter, sorry one more question... any way to convert those NTFS partitions without losing the data so I could make them more "Production ready"
[07:15] <iter> jenda: can you access whatever it is on 44444 at 1.37 ?
[07:15] <bartist> i will have the opportunity to reconf my hdd
[07:16] <oskude> dark_light: you know / has 5% reserved, so it should never really get full...
[07:16] <iter> Web: I would be scared to do that
[07:16] <bartist> do you think 1GB swap, 7GB root, and 22GB home is good?
[07:16] <jenda> iter: nope.. I set that up for my other PC which is DHCP
[07:16] <iter> Web: much safer to copy to another disk that's fat32
[07:16] <Web> =)... k man, thanks for your time and help.
[07:16] <iter> then use that disk for ubuntu
[07:16] <Web> excellent
[07:16] <iter> can also use it under windows w/a fat32 fs
[07:16] <Web> thanks again
[07:16] <thermionic> you can't do a non destructive convert of NTFS partitions
[07:16] <jenda> iter: OTOH, that one even refuses telnet...
[07:16] <excitatory> bartist: how much ram do you have?
[07:16] <iter> sho
[07:17] <iter> jenda: what's on 44444 on 1.37
[07:17] <Web> so if I were to convert them first to FAT 32 b4 I install Ubunto I would be gtg?
[07:17] <iter> web yes
[07:17] <Web> ok, no more buggy you man! =) Thanks gains!
[07:18] <iter> if gtg means good to go and not 'going to gag'
[07:18] <vanisher> Bartist: When an ext2/3 filesystem is created by default 5% is reserved for root. This is allows root access the partition in case the filesystem becomes full and reduce fragmentation. You can use tune2fs to change the amount of reserved space.
[07:18] <Web> lol
[07:18] <dark_light> oskude, by default? but well, it's a option in /etc/fstab? i cant find it
[07:18] <jenda> iter: nothing, I just set up that forward to try the portprobe.
[07:18] <mjr> bartist, really, don't make a separate /home unless you have a pressing reason and you know it
[07:18] <bartist> thank you all guys for your precious info!
[07:18] <CroX> At http://tremulous.net/ they say that "it made it's way into Ubuntu" but it doesn't say where I can find it. Anyone know?
[07:18] <thermionic> does anyone here know about creating a local repository for installing Ubuntu from ?
[07:18] <vanisher> dark_light: When an ext2/3 filesystem is created by default 5% is reserved for root. This is allows root access the partition in case the filesystem becomes full and reduce fragmentation. You can use tune2fs to change the amount of reserved space.
[07:18] <sureshot> i noticed someone posted to me by name i took a nap and did not see it i am here now if someone needed to chat with me
[07:19] <dark_light> oskude, i heard about it, the root can reserve some percentage of partition for its use, but i didnt know that its the default
[07:19] <oskude> dark_light: vanisher said you can edit it with tune2fs
[07:19] <dark_light> hmm :)
[07:19] <jenda> iter: I suppose why that didn't work. I'll try to fallback to DHCP and try it out.
[07:19] <oskude> dark_light: if you used the text installer, you would see a 5% there as default ;)
[07:19] <thermionic> maybe I should take the lack of response as a NO
[07:20] <oskude> dark_light: oh, but could be that the gui installer doesnt do that...
[07:20] <bartist> another thing
[07:20] <thermionic> a basic requirement for doing multiple installs and nobody sems to know how to do it
[07:20] <dark_light> oskude, i created partitions with mkfs some times, but i didn't remembered it
[07:20] <bartist> i have to run vba code in openoffice spreadsheet for university
[07:20] <thermionic> saddening really
[07:20] <bartist> but vba only works with excel, and not oo
[07:21] <oskude> dark_light: that doesnt make partitions, it just formats them...
[07:21] <dark_light> well you got what i meant :P
[07:22] <bartist> the only reason why i wanted to format my pc is because of beryl and xgl
[07:22] <bartist> i did not liked it very much
[07:23] <bartist> plus it's alpha code, and it hurts your eyes
[07:23] <sharperguy> is it possible to stop the edgy upgrade once youve started downloading (i assume i'll have to fix sources.list)
[07:23] <sharperguy> if possible PM it to me because i have to go
[07:23] <dark_light> bartist, you can just remove it..
[07:23] <dark_light> and use the old X
[07:23] <oskude> on terminal, just press ctrl+c
[07:24] <dark_light> or, you could just remake the links for point to the old X.org ..
[07:24] <oskude> sharperguy: on terminal, just press ctrl+c
[07:25] <bartist> dark_light i removed it
[07:25] <bartist> but i feel my pc is buggy since i installed it
[07:25] <dark_light> per example?
[07:26] <vanisher> i just have 2 problems completly migrating to linux :(
[07:26] <Linuturk_code> vanisher, and they are?
[07:26] <bartist> what is remake the links for point to the old X.org?
[07:26] <vanisher> Outlook -> pda synchronization and MS Flightsimulator
[07:26] <Cornelius> is it possible to have kanotix and Ubuntu at the sametime on 1 computer
[07:26] <bartist> dark: when i updated my sys today, my screen went black
[07:26] <bartist> dark: i can not run macros in OO
[07:27] <crweb> is the xine/flac problem with amarok ever going to be fixed in 6.*?
[07:27] <Tokenbad> oskude, yes I rebooted
[07:27] <bartist> and, my OO presentations are buggy
[07:27] <mikeymike> ok so.. once you edit sshd_config how you restart it
[07:27] <we2by> how do I install xfce4 themes?
[07:27] <mikeymike> just run the daemon again?
[07:27] <mikeymike> to get the new settings?
[07:27] <vanisher> linuturk_code: any suggestion ? :D
[07:27] <Linuturk_code> vanisher, there is a pda syncer on dapper, but I've never used it
[07:28] <Cornelius> !dvb-t
[07:28] <Linuturk_code> vanisher, check www.winehq.org to see if the flight similator works with wine
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <vanisher> my pda is running windows mobile, i wasn't able to sort it out yet :(
[07:28] <oskude> vanisher: and there is a free flight simulator, dunno the name, google..
[07:28] <Cornelius> !dvbt
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvbt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <boink> !realplay
[07:28] <ubotu> realplay: RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.. In component main, is optional. Version 10.0.8-0ubuntu1 (dapper-commercial), package size 6110 kB, installed size 15456 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:28] <bashusr> hello everyone... what's the latest ubuntu server?
[07:29] <oskude> vanisher: here http://www.flightgear.org/
[07:29] <oskude> bashusr: 6.06
[07:29] <Chimere> Hi, what's the best psx emulator for UB?
[07:29] <Cornelius> !dvb
[07:29] <bashusr> huh?
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <bashusr> i can only find 5.10
[07:29] <vanisher> oskude: Yes i know that, but Microsoft Flight Simulator is very sofisticated.. with online ATC, custom planes etc (like www.vatsim.com)
[07:30] <oskude> vanisher: then use that...
[07:30] <vanisher> oskude: indeed.. that are the only things that keep me of 100% linux :-( http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=2819
[07:30] <oskude> bashusr: hmm, where do you look, i see like this http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[07:31] <bashusr> ahh
[07:31] <bashusr> i was looking http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/ubuntu/ubuntu-server/
[07:31] <mikeymike> can someone tell me what this means when running sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[07:31] <oskude> vanisher: then go say that to the software makers, and ask for a linux client!
[07:31] <bashusr> oskude: does the server release have LAMP package on the ISO?
[07:31] <oskude> bashusr: dunno, sorry
[07:31] <vanisher> oksude: YEAH DUDE :) Mister Microsoft, please make Windows Vista compatible with linux :)
[07:32] <Tokenbad> oskude, I can't even fdisk the drive
[07:32] <bashusr> Tokenbad: then throw it out!
[07:32] <oskude> vanisher: i said about the programs, not the os...
[07:32] <bashusr> Tokenbad: corrupt!
[07:32] <vanisher> oskude: i know ;-) but i'll guess the answer is the same lol brb coffee time.
[07:32] <oskude> Tokenbad: whats your command ?
[07:33] <oskude> vanisher: and what should we now do about it ?
[07:33] <_stippi_> Hi, I want to convert video files (for example WMV -> AVI), I have so far managed to install the gstreamer plugins necessary to at least watch the videos I want to convert. Can someone recommend a tool for the conversion?
[07:33] <vanisher> oskude: forcing the online flightsim community to use flight gear or something :D
[07:33] <JamesFoster> Vanisher: http://www.x-plane.com/
[07:33] <ArrenLex> stippi: mencoder! :D
[07:33] <bashusr> does ubuntu support linksys usb wireless G network adaptor?
[07:34] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: thanks, I will give that a try
[07:34] <vanisher> oskude: that would only be around 10.000 online people a day ;-) i think that's easier than convincing MS , but enough about that
[07:34] <ArrenLex> stippi: part of the mplayer package, in multiverse
[07:34] <Tokenbad> oskude, I tried fdisk /dev/hdd1
[07:35] <Chimere> What are the .so files on Ubuntu?
[07:35] <oskude> Tokenbad: hmm, thats a partition, fdisk needs a harddisk... and root (sudo) rights...
[07:35] <jolt> static libraries
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Chimere: libraries. Like .dll
[07:35] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: are there any GUI tools too?
[07:36] <Chimere> Thanks Arren.
[07:36] <Tokenbad> oskude, hdd is my second drive
[07:36] <Tokenbad> not a partition
[07:36] <Chimere> Anybody tried to install wxWidgets with Code::Blocks?
[07:36] <oskude> Tokenbad: yup, and you used hdd1
[07:36] <ArrenLex> stippi: yes, but I haven't found any taht work for me. It's easier to use commands once you get the hang of it. mencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=<videobitrate>:abitrate=<audiobitrate>:vhq <file.wmv> -o <outfile.avi>
[07:37] <ArrenLex> that
[07:37] <ArrenLex> stippi: man mplayer is also wonderful. Although long.
[07:38] <oskude> _stippi_: i used to use transcode
[07:38] <oskude> _stippi_: but it seems dead :/
[07:38] <Tokenbad> oskude, I have tried it both ways...but its cause I didn't use sudo...but even in fdisk I don't know how to fix it
[07:39] <oskude> Tokenbad: fix what ? (and i would use cfdisk for editing partitions)
[07:40] <Tokenbad> oskude, as I said...I have 80 gig drive...before I used gparted and it froze...the drive had over 20 gigs free...now...I tried to partition 20 gigs to another partition...but it froze...now when I start gparted it says 75 gigs of the 80 gig drive is used...so in other words...its had the other space taken up that I was going to use for partition...and no way to get it back..
[07:40] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: I get an error that the output file cannot be opened!!
[07:41] <Tokenbad> oskude, it don't list it as an unused partition
[07:41] <ArrenLex> stippi: are you trying to write the file somewhere you don't have permission to write it?
[07:41] <oskude> Tokenbad: hmm, i just dont get you... this doesn make sence "I tried to partition 20 gigs to another partition"
[07:41] <ArrenLex> stippi: try -o /tmp/file.avi
[07:42] <oskude> Tokenbad: so you dont have any free (unpartitioned) space then
[07:42] <bashusr> is there a ubuntu release that is 650MB or less?
[07:43] <oskude> Tokenbad: if you run "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd" do you see "unpartitioned space" somehwere ?
[07:43] <bashusr> sorta don't have any 700MB CDs lying around
[07:43] <ArrenLex> bashusr: ran into that problem. The edgy install CDs just fit on 650MB cds if you use overburning.
[07:43] <oskude> bashusr: maybe the alternate image
[07:43] <ArrenLex> oskude: no.
[07:43] <bashusr> oskude: alternative is 698
[07:44] <oskude> ArrenLex: bashusr, indeed
[07:44] <Tokenbad> oskude, let me try this again...the drive...its 80 gigs...I had used 45 gigs of it...I wanted to take 20 gigs of the free space on that drive..and partition it off...so could use that 20 gigs for something else...but when gparted froze...it now says there is no free space...when there should be
[07:44] <oskude> bashusr: the server is smaller ;)
[07:45] <oskude> Tokenbad: free partitioned or unpartitioned space ?
[07:45] <bashusr> oskude: can i install a GUI on it?
[07:45] <ArrenLex> bashusr: once you get the core of ubuntu installed, you can install anything you want.
[07:45] <oskude> bashusr: sure, but over internet (or from another cd/dvd(
[07:46] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: for some reason I could not write to fat32.... plus I have these complete system freezes, which I totally hate.
[07:46] <mikeymike> whats that command to find out what chipset the wifi is?
[07:46] <_stippi_> could you repeat that mencoder line for me?
[07:46] <bashusr> ArrenLex: will i have to "configure" anything... or will i be able to just apt-get install GPM and have the same environment as the desktop?
[07:46] <_stippi_> because it worked, before my system froze
[07:46] <ArrenLex> stippi: I never had that problem, and I have a fat32 partition... but I dunno.
[07:46] <highneko> When I minimize a window I see an outline. How do I remove this?
[07:46] <oskude> Tokenbad: as you cant partition a partition in partition :/ so you need UNPARTITIONED space before you can do new partitions (people say you can resize, but i never use that)
[07:46] <ArrenLex> bashusr: I have no idea what gpm is, but I'm pretty sure apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will set you up.
[07:47] <bashusr> ArrenLex: err GDM (gnome display manager)
[07:47] <dfgas> how do i take a screen shot?
[07:47] <bashusr> that's how you used to have to do it back on debian :-p
[07:47] <Tokenbad> osfameron, the drive was never partitioned...I formated it and made it ext3...and then started putting stuff on it...I wanted to take the free space and make that into a partition
[07:47] <oskude> dfgas: the "print-screen" button
[07:47] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: could you repeat that mencoder line for me?
[07:47] <bashusr> so how good is ubuntu support for wireless USB and PCMCIA cards?
[07:47] <ArrenLex> bashusr: uh, no. That'll just install the login screen, not gnome itself. You'll have to go "apt-get install gdm x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome"
[07:48] <bashusr> i'll stick with ubuntu-desktop :)
[07:48] <ArrenLex> mencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=<videobitrate>:abitrate=<audiobitrate>:vhq <file.wmv> -o <outfile.avi>
[07:48] <oskude> bashusr: as good as they are open to developers...
[07:48] <Tokenbad> oskude, I mean , the drive was never partitioned...I formated it and made it ext3...and then started putting stuff on it...I wanted to take the free space and make that into a partition
[07:48] <Russel> hiho
[07:48] <oskude> Tokenbad: hmm, you can format without a partition...
[07:49] <Astrophix> Hi all..
[07:49] <bashusr> oskude: in other words... has linux hackers got support for things like the linksys usb adapter (WUSB54G)?
[07:49] <oskude> Tokenbad: *cant
[07:49] <mikeymike> ok i have a broadcom bcm4318 wifi card on eth1 (gateway laptop) how do i get it working
[07:49] <Russel> i want to set the $EDITOR to vim, how can i do it?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> export EDITOR=vim ?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> or vi? or whatever works?
[07:49] <oskude> bashusr: google, or the ubuntu hardware support page...
[07:49] <oskude> bashusr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:49] <Tokenbad> oskude, well not sure how to say it..but basicly qparted has taken all the free space I had...and did something with it...cause now I have no free space
[07:49] <micahcowan> Russel, what ArrenLex said. If you put that in your ~/.bashrc, it will execute that line every time you start.
[07:49] <Russel> i mean global forever
[07:49] <Russel> something systemwide?
[07:49] <buzzy-> !w32codecs
[07:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <tox> !ompiz
[07:50] <dalfz> !openoffice
[07:50] <micahcowan> If you want to make a more global change, Russel, try "sudo update-alternatives --set editor /usr/bin/vim".
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ompiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[07:50] <tox> !compiz
[07:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Russel: put EDITOR="vim" in /etc/environment
[07:50] <oskude> Tokenbad: well... then learn some (very) basic partitioning and do it manually with cfdisk
[07:50] <sharperguy> oskude, oh yea, im not useing dist-upgrade
[07:50] <Russel> thx i try it
[07:50] <Tokenbad> oskude, I can't now....the space is gone...unless someone knows a way to get it back
[07:50] <sharperguy> im using the gui
[07:51] <oskude> Tokenbad: how do you know its "gone" ?
[07:51] <pike_> Tokenbad: have you rebooted since then?
[07:51] <bashusr> thaks oskude
[07:51] <khaije1> whats the comparison between aiglx and xgl? i've seen people say aiglx is superior?
[07:51] <Astrophix> Couldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)
[07:51] <Tokenbad> oskude, cause...its saying the drive is full...and its not...it had like 35 gigs free before this...
[07:51] <Tokenbad> pike_, yes
[07:52] <oskude> Tokenbad: so if you look in cfdisk the partitions space and count them together, and comapre that to the harddisk size, youre missing like gigabytes ?
[07:52] <eracc> Hey, dudes, you do know you can open a private IRC session with the bot (ubotu) to test your database lookups first ...
[07:53] <heanol_> anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu with 2.6.18?
[07:53] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: ok thanks! can this be done with SWF files as well? I mean convert a flash movie into AVI?
[07:53] <mikeymike> anyone in here got dapper working with Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 ??
[07:53] <mikeymike> anyone able to point me to a howto or something ... a resource of info about making that wifi card work with dapper
[07:53] <efrancolaporte> hi i need help. i have the nvidia drivers installed and it used to load them at boot but now i dont know why it doesn't anymore and i have no 3d acceleration
[07:54] <pike_> Tokenbad: maybe fsck the partition?
[07:54] <Tokenbad> oskude, I can't seem to get cfdisk to read the disk
[07:54] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: tried automatix?
[07:54] <oskude> Tokenbad: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[07:54] <HeXiOn> hello
[07:54] <efrancolaporte> yes i installed them with atomatix
[07:54] <oskude> _stippi_: flash is not a video format...
[07:54] <efrancolaporte> i tried reinstalling them from the terminal but it says the newest version is already installed so it wont do anything
[07:54] <_stippi_> oskude: I know
[07:54] <HeXiOn> anyone knows a program to edit ISO files??? (just to delete some files to match a 650MB disc).. KIso crashes :S
[07:55] <Tokenbad> oskude, ok...its says 77gigs on one partition and like 2 gigs on another
[07:55] <oskude> Tokenbad: ok, so youre not missing any space...
[07:55] <Astrophix> Couldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)
[07:55] <Subhuman> HeXiOn, mount the iso and edit it then.
[07:55] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: have you looked at your xorg.conf file to make sure the right driver is loaded?
[07:56] <Tokenbad> oskude, yes I am...the 35 gigs that was free...now its saying is used
[07:56] <Subhuman> !iso
[07:56] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, and when I umount it, changes are saved?
[07:56] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:56] <efrancolaporte> i am going to look now
[07:56] <Tokenbad> so that 35 gigs that was free I can't use now
[07:56] <oskude> Tokenbad: free space on a partition ? or free unpartitioned space ?
[07:56] <HeXiOn> thanks unotu & Subhuman
[07:57] <_stippi_> oskude: some flash movies are non interactive, why can't I convert those?
[07:57] <oskude> _stippi_: dunno, ask adobe!
[07:57] <efrancolaporte> i see in my xorg.conf:
[07:57] <efrancolaporte> Section "Device"
[07:57] <efrancolaporte>     Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] "
[07:57] <efrancolaporte>     Driver         "nvidia"
[07:57] <efrancolaporte> EndSection
[07:57] <_stippi_> oskude: don't try to preach to the converted
[07:57] <Subhuman> HeXiOn, ubotu is a bot
[07:57] <Subhuman> use !command
[07:57] <kmaynard> that should do it then
[07:57] <efrancolaporte> im not sure what its supposed to write
[07:57] <Subhuman> !ubotu
[07:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:58] <eracc> Tokenbad, from the "problem box" post the output of 'df -k' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ then give us the URL please.
[07:58] <oskude> _stippi_: maybe you should ask, why doesnt flash export movie ?
[07:58] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, oops!!! :D
[07:58] <_stippi_> there is an SWF gstreamer plugin, can this be useful to me?
[07:58] <heanol_> is edgy eft beta newer than knot 3?
[07:59] <oskude> heanol_: i think so
[07:59] <_stippi_> I mean, I thought gstreamer was supposed to be a frame work, but now I saw that some movies play in one gstreamer app and not in others.
[07:59] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: check your log   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:59] <_stippi_> I thought it is all interchangable...
[07:59] <Subhuman> heanol_, the beta is the newest.
[07:59] <kmaynard> or whatever your system names it...it's in /var/log
[07:59] <Subhuman> they will all update themselves to the same level anyway once installed.
[07:59] <oskude> _stippi_: maybe the other apps are not using that parts of gstreamer... but i have like no clue...
[08:00] <Subhuman> heanol_, any edgy chat should be in #ubuntu+1 however
[08:00] <heanol_> anyone know what kernel the beta has?
[08:00] <heanol_> ok
[08:00] <efrancolaporte> my terminal says permisson denied
[08:00] <Rahmiel> I'm trying to enable 3d acceleration with my nvidia geforce card, following the instructions in the help.. when I do nvidia-glx-config enable I get that it cannot due to my X configuration being altered.
[08:00] <kmaynard> try sudo
[08:00] <efrancolaporte> /var/log/Xorg.0.log says permission denied in my terminal, even as root
[08:01] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, it mounts as read only
[08:01] <HeXiOn> -rw maybe
[08:01] <pxlmdk> is ubuntu free to download?
[08:01] <HeXiOn> ?
[08:01] <eracc> Tokenbad, hmmm, maybe include the output of 'df -i' too.
[08:01] <sharperguy> pxlmdk, most definatly
[08:01] <eracc> Running out of inodes is as bad as running out of physical space.
[08:02] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: ls -l /var/log | grep Xorg
[08:02] <pxlmdk> great. it is one of the easiest versions of linux right?
[08:02] <habeeb> Hello, I was messing arround with my mp3 player (deleting files and restoring etc) and now, I have an empty mp3, but with only 93MB space left. How can I completely restore it or something? Not a brand mp3, so there are no software available. Thanks!
[08:02] <sharperguy> yea
[08:02] <efrancolaporte> ok kmaynard, that gives me:
[08:02] <matt8806suomi> "Dynamic CPU throttle" can anyone help me?
[08:02] <pxlmdk> i have never run linux but 2003 is going to become out of date and i am not going to be running xp or vista.
[08:02] <efrancolaporte> shit i cant copy from terminal
[08:03] <Rookie> !ati
[08:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> nevermind
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47764 2006-10-04 13:43 Xorg.0.log
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47764 2006-10-04 08:14 Xorg.0.log.old
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47765 2006-10-02 21:23 Xorg.20.log
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   27479 2006-10-01 15:22 Xorg.20.log.old
[08:03] <eracc> pxlmdk, "easiest" is relative to one's experience. ;-)
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> thats what it gives me kmaynard
[08:03] <THX-1138> habeeb - restore a deleted mp3? "Penguin Sleuth Kit"
[08:03] <sharperguy> habeeb, try pressing ctrl+h and deleting the .trash-yourname folder
[08:03] <kmaynard> oh, the permission denied bit was from the log file itself
[08:03] <kmaynard> you were reading it
[08:03] <ubuntu_> hi all just did a update and i cant get xdesktop to load any way i can reupdate from there
[08:04] <efrancolaporte> yeah anyway what am i supposed to understand form that giberish :D
[08:04] <pxlmdk> lol eracc that makes sense but basically is it the best for noobs to linux?
[08:04] <ubuntu_> says i am missing i font .ttf file
[08:04] <Chucara> Can anyone help me install mplayer on dapper drake, tried a few FAQ/howto, but apt-get keeps saying that there is no package "mplayer"
[08:05] <eracc> pxlmdk, that is what I understand, yes. But I am no noob by a long shot so I can only tell you it works for me. ;-)
[08:05] <bashusr> Chucara: you got to add the universe binary location
[08:05] <matt8806suomi> i'm looking to setup/enable "Dynamic CPU throttle" can anyone help me please?
[08:05] <bashusr> Chucara: or something like that
[08:05] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: user (root) has read-write permissions, group (root) has read permissions, others have no permissions
[08:05] <Rahmiel> I follow the guide to setup my nvidia drivers, but I get the following:
[08:05] <Rahmiel> "Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[08:05] <Rahmiel> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[08:05] <Rahmiel> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[08:05] <Rahmiel> command:
[08:05] <Rahmiel> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[08:05] <Chousuke> s/user/owner
[08:05] <Rahmiel> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[08:05] <Rahmiel> from nv to nvidia."
[08:05] <THX-1138> ubuntu_ - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - to rid of the blues screen and an error about the xserver being disabled until reconfigured?
[08:05] <Rahmiel> Sorry for spam.
[08:05] <pxlmdk> ok eracc sounds good.
[08:05] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, it didn't work... mounts as read only and option -w is ignored
[08:06] <efrancolaporte> Chousuke I know that. my problem is that the nvidia drivers are not loading when I boot ubuntu I have no idea why because they USED to load
[08:06] <Subhuman> HeXiOn, are you trying to mount the ubuntu cd?
[08:06] <HeXiOn> yes
[08:06] <efrancolaporte> and they are still installed so it wont let me install them because they already are
[08:06] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, edgy beta
[08:06] <Subhuman> if so, its all compressed anyway, so you cant simply jus mount it, delete some stuff and close it again
[08:06] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: maybe yout kernel got upgraded and the drivers didn't.
[08:07] <ubuntu_> so what is the code..... sudo app-get??????
[08:07] <Subhuman> if you cant get a CD, get one shipped for free, or do a netinstall (assuming you have more than one pc on your network)
[08:07] <eracc> pxlmdk, if you learned your PC "skilz" on Micro$oft products you will still need to retrain yourself a bit. But if you use KDE or Gnome desktops you should find it very familiar. The real differences are "under the hood" and take longer to understand.
[08:07] <efrancolaporte> Chousuke.... i have no idea... how do i fix the situation??
[08:07] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: Did you install them from the nvidia package?
[08:07] <THX-1138> How do you enable the mount command from the live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.
[08:07] <efrancolaporte> could i uninstall them and reinstall them?
[08:07] <pxlmdk> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ <- free ubuntu cd :D
[08:07] <efrancolaporte> i installed them from Atomatix
[08:07] <we2by> any way to increase the performance of firefox? or alternative to firefox?
[08:07] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: hmmh
[08:07] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, it's to not waste a non-rewritable CD
[08:07] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: I don't know what automatix did
[08:07] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, I think I'll have to :)
[08:07] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: go ask on #automatix
[08:08] <pxlmdk> eracc i have only used M$ unfortunately. i am familiar with command lines at least tho.
[08:08] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, thanks for your help
[08:08] <Subhuman> yeah, a cd is like 5p these days anyway
[08:08] <Subhuman> no problem.
[08:08] <efrancolaporte> look its a ubuntu problem more than an atomatix one
[08:08] <afief> What are some good replacements for nautilus?
[08:08] <THX-1138> pxlmdk - The lack of viruses and malware is the reason to try linux. - flexible configurability will addict you.
[08:08] <eracc> pxlmdk, all I can say is try it. If you have a spare PC then that is the best way to go IMO.
[08:08] <efrancolaporte> i can install the drivers without atomatix if i know how to uninstall them in the 1st pace
[08:09] <efrancolaporte> but i dont know that either
[08:09] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: I don't know what automatix did, so I can't tell you how to undo it
[08:09] <pxlmdk> yah i am going to back up my system and try to install a dual boot
[08:09] <efrancolaporte> omfg
[08:09] <eracc> pxlmdk, the second best way to start is dual-boot on the same PC with a second drive.
[08:09] <efrancolaporte> why cant i just uninstall the package
[08:09] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: #ubuntu has (at least had) a policy of redirecting automatix users to #automatix
[08:09] <efrancolaporte> or something like thaty
[08:09] <Chucara> I've added about 2 pages worth of text to sources.list, yet I am still unable to find any mplayer or mplayer-586 packages?
[08:09] <THX-1138> pxlmdk - compare the adware filled "window blinds" to even the simplest of gnome themes. - nice
[08:10] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: well, you should be able to.
[08:10] <ax> anyone know how i can make it so that ldconfig looks in /usr/local/lib ?
[08:10] <pxlmdk> until i find a way to use photoshop in linux. maybe pixel will do.
[08:10] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: but I can't guarantee it'll work
[08:10] <eracc> pxlmdk, yes, please DO backup first. ;-)
[08:10] <pxlmdk> eracc ok i will use a second drive thanks for the tip. :)
[08:10] <Chousuke> since automatix is not supported by Ubuntu :/
[08:10] <Chousuke> or #ubuntu, for that matter.
[08:10] <efrancolaporte> ok
[08:10] <wuming> compiz is broken now?
[08:10] <Ubuntu_Durban> need some help
[08:10] <pxlmdk> i have a 27 gig i can put in i just haven't bothered.
[08:10] <THX-1138> pxlmdk - have you taken a look at the codeweavers version of WINE?
[08:11] <ubuntu_> so what is the code to update and install ..... sudo app-get??????
[08:11] <efrancolaporte> theres noone in #atomatix
[08:11] <pxlmdk> no thx
[08:11] <Ubuntu_Durban> where do i go for help on chatzilla, I know it's off topic
[08:11] <sureshot> thx-1138 it that version better than cedega
[08:11] <efrancolaporte> come on i bet 2/3 of people here used atomatix themselves
[08:11] <eracc> pxlmdk, take a look at The GIMP for editing graphics. It is not Photo$hop but many graphics people I know like it.
[08:11] <sureshot> i did not
[08:11] <oskude> efrancolaporte: i doubt!
[08:11] <v3rt3x> my laptop hangs at the end of shutdown when I try to reboot it. It only does this after a suspend to memory. Anyone else experience this?
[08:11] <TubaSoldier> ubuntu_ the command is sudo apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[08:12] <Chimere> Anybody installed the last version of SDL on ubuntu (1.2.1.1)?
[08:12] <efrancolaporte> my problem started much later after i used atomatix..... it worked for at least 2 weeks
[08:12] <pxlmdk> THX-1138 wow nice didn't know about that.
[08:12] <jmitchj> can someone help me with setting up my Wireless connection?
[08:12] <efrancolaporte> i didnt run atomatix more than once, so it didnt do any changes before and after it was working
[08:12] <afief> wuming: they moved to beryl
[08:12] <eracc> pxlmdk, oh yes, THX-1138 mentioned WINE. That is another possibility to keep using your Photo$hop.
[08:12] <ubuntu_> ty for the help
[08:12] <sureshot> then you installed somthing that broke it and such and what i have been told that once you use automatix there is not going back with out a reinstall
[08:12] <wuming> afief:thx
[08:13] <efrancolaporte> ubuntu changed something while updating, most likely. atomatix never updated
[08:13] <afief> What are some good replacements for nautilus?
[08:13] <Chimere> Anybody installed the last version of LibSDL and LibSDL-Dev on ubuntu (1.2.1.1)?
[08:13] <oskude> afief: konqueror, some may say...
[08:13] <sureshot> THX-1138 it that version better than cedega
[08:14] <afief> oskude: i meant without all the overhead KDE packages
[08:14] <jmitchj>  can someone help me with setting up my Wireless connection?
[08:14] <TubaSoldier> midnight commander is one
[08:14] <TubaSoldier> to replace nautilus
[08:14] <Ubuntu_Durban> me is a pink bunny
[08:14] <oskude> afief: aha ...
[08:14] <eracc> IMO one should use Window$ app$ on Window$ and OSS apps on Linux. But some like to "shoehorn" Window$ stuff onto X so application layers like WINE exist. I try to avoid them.
[08:14] <Tokenbad> eracc, this is the df -k : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25679/
[08:15] <Peter77> hi, I installed ubuntu on my laptop a few days ago, will I need to download any special drivers for my hardware or does ubuntu already have everything I need?
[08:15] <Tokenbad> oskude, df -i : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25680/
[08:15] <afief> Eracc: sometimes it's not an option, and it would actually be nice to have all the windows software running on linux
[08:15] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: what tipped you off the 3d was broken?
[08:16] <der0b> peter77: is everything working?
[08:16] <eracc> Egad, Tokenbad! Everything is under '/'?
[08:16] <Peter77> yes
[08:16] <efrancolaporte> yes
[08:16] <der0b> then you're all set :)
[08:16] <oskude> Tokenbad: what should i do with that ?
[08:16] <efrancolaporte> thats what tipping me off. windows are slower to drag, my screensavers dont work anymore and all my games are super slow
[08:16] <afief> TubaSoldier: will anybody blame me if i sell my soul to midnight commander? i'm in love:D
[08:16] <kmaynard> do you get the nvidia splash screen?
[08:17] <Peter77> apart from the intermitent battery level reading, I set the icon to always be displayed but when I don't get a reading it just displays a plug which when I hover over says "running off battery"
[08:17] <Rambo3_> how do i get my nickname  back somone is using it?
[08:17] <eracc> Tokenbad, hrm, you are definitely not out of either space nor out of inodes. Hmmmm.
[08:17] <TubaSoldier> afief, no. no one will blame you for anything
[08:17] <Chucara> Can anyone help me figure out why my mplayer playback is god awful? (divx)
[08:17] <oskude> afief: nope, in oss, you dont have to sell your soul
[08:17] <gean> hi all!
[08:17] <der0b> peter77: Linux and Win differ in that most of the hardware suppoert is built into the kernel.  You usually don't need to download drivers (unless you have funky hardware which has drivers being developed and isn't in the kernel yet)
[08:17] <TubaSoldier> lol, good one oskude
[08:17] <gean> !hdinstall
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <eracc> afief, heh, I'm an OSS bigot. What can I say? ;-)
[08:17] <afief> oskude: oh right:D i'm glad i quit windows before i did...
[08:17] <gean> !install
[08:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:17] <Chucara> By God awful, I mean: laggy, sound not playing on que with picutre
[08:18] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: do you get the nvidia splash screen?
[08:18] <jvai> i'm glad i did too..lol
[08:18] <THX-1138> WINE, Cedega, Crossover Office, Virtual machines like vmware, kqemu - linux flexibility
[08:18] <efrancolaporte> no i dont. i used to, but not anymore.
[08:18] <Peter77> what could be causing the battery level to show before a reboot but not after?
[08:18] <afief> eracc: sure i'm trying to run as many OSS apps as i can:) but my dad can't use a PC that doesn't run his legacy software from 1995
[08:18] <efrancolaporte> not since i found out my drivers dont load anymore
[08:18] <Chucara> I notice that Xorg is eating away 60% CPU on mplayer playback.. I usually use 3% CPU total in windows to play divx.. ?!
[08:18] <oskude> afief: there are good dos emulators ;)
[08:19] <efrancolaporte> yet there still is NVIDIA Settings in my System Tools menu from the menu bar Applications
[08:19] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: try uninstalling and reinstalling automatix...there was a new version out not long ago. also there was a new version of the nvidia driver released recently
[08:19] <THX-1138> FreeDOS
[08:19] <eracc> Now running a VM is something with which I agree. I actually run an instance of Window$ 98 in Bochs here. (Just because I can, I don't really use the thing ;-)
[08:19] <jmitchj> how do i gain access to an installed program that doesn't show up under Applications or "Open with"?
[08:19] <afief> oskude: it's a windows application he bought when windows 95 was released
[08:19] <efrancolaporte> k
[08:19] <kmaynard> jmitchj: what program?
[08:19] <mumbles-laptop> what the hell is it/.
[08:19] <jmitchj> mplayer32
[08:19] <afief> oskude: ignore that, mixed up the conversations:)
[08:19] <efrancolaporte> i dont run therisk of having "clones" of packages installed over each other?
[08:20] <efrancolaporte> i.e v 6.0 and v.6.01 installed at the same time?
[08:20] <kmaynard> jmitchj: there should be a frontend for that...cant think of the name right off hand tho
[08:20] <kmaynard> !mplayer
[08:20] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:20] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:20] <kmaynard> !mplayer-gui
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-gui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <jtickle> is anyone here using Beagle and could tell me why it's not indexing applications?
[08:20] <kmaynard> !mplayer-gtk
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-gtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <oskude> kmaynard: gmplayer ?
[08:21] <kmaynard> oskude: bingo
[08:21] <kmaynard> !gmplayer
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <Peter77> der0b: what could cause the battery monitor not to show the battery level randomly after reboot or shut down?
[08:21] <domini1> salut
[08:21] <THX-1138> !info gmplayer
[08:21] <ubotu> Package gmplayer does not exist in any distro I know
[08:21] <TubaSoldier> does anybody use the gnome wallpaper-tray and actually have it working?
[08:21] <domini1> who speak french
[08:21] <der0b> peter77: I haven't the slightest idea.  sorry
[08:22] <eracc> !fr
[08:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:22] <oskude> kmaynard: apt-file search gmplayer : mplayer: usr/bin/gmplayer
[08:22] <kmaynard> well crap. i just install codecs thru automatix, not the players. most of my media is either in a browser or in totem
[08:22] <Peter77> der0b: hmm, I really need to fix that, the battery level use to show 100% of the time in suse 10
[08:22] <beowuff> I'm wondering what CLI mail clients people are using. I was going to use pine, but it doesn't appear to be in the repositories.
[08:22] <AAA> gmplayer is part of the mplayer-xxx pkg
[08:23] <kmaynard> gotcha
[08:23] <kmaynard> i still have a foot in gentoo i guess ;)
[08:23] <v3rt3x> I can suspend to mem fine and resume fine. But when I try to reboot after that, it hangs at the very end of the process and won't turn off. Anyone else seen this?
[08:23] <oskude> beowuff: i heard some use "mutt"
[08:23] <eracc> Tokenbad, what application is telling you are out of space? Does this happen with /all/ applications or just one/some?
[08:23] <THX-1138> domini1 - You might also install a .py script to translate irc using irssi and bablefish
[08:23] <Chucara> Noone have any idea what causes xorg to jump to 60% and mplayer to 40% when starting mplayer on a freshly installed ubuntu?
[08:24] <kmaynard> weak system? :) jk
[08:24] <Tokenbad> eracc, i am not sure what other programs to use to see free space on that drive
[08:24] <Tokenbad> but gparted is saying its full
[08:24] <Chucara> It is, but I can run mplayer on windows without incident..
[08:24] <beowuff> oskude, cool, I think that'll work. thanks.
[08:25] <THX-1138> Tokenbad df and du in terminal??
[08:25] <oskude> Tokenbad: please do refer to unpartitioned free space if you mean that, free space would mean (for most of us) free unused space in a partition...
[08:25] <dark_light> Tokenbad, type df -h
[08:25] <der0b> chucara: have you tried some of the alternate output options?  maybe there's one that works better on your machine
[08:25] <iter> 2-0 oakland woooo
[08:25] <iter> whoops
[08:25] <buzzy-> !lame
[08:25] <dark_light> df -h shows free unused space in a partition..
[08:25] <iter> well, GO A's anyway ;)
[08:25] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[08:25] <Tokenbad> oskude, well I guess since it was one drive...the space was used..
[08:25] <Chucara> der0b: What do you mean?
[08:25] <Chucara> der0b: Alternate players, or?
[08:26] <Tokenbad> or should say space in a partitioned drive
[08:26] <der0b> chucara: you can switch output options using mplayer (the list is huge, you should check the man page)
[08:26] <habeeb> sharperguy: woah, great. But now only 500MB restored...
[08:26] <habeeb> sharperguy: I want MOAR!
[08:26] <efrancolaporte> hey i fixed the issue
[08:26] <Chucara> When playing, it says "Badly interleaved AVI file detected - switching to -mi mode" - Does that have an impact?
[08:26] <UKMatt> If I wanted to do something like create a 10 second .mpg or .avi (something that can be burned to a DVD) from scratch, what program should I use?
[08:26] <der0b> chucara: for instance, mplayer runs like poo on my machine until I set the -ao to esd
[08:26] <eracc> Tokenbad, if your drive has no unpartitioned space then as far as a partition editor (gparted) is concerned the drive /is/ full.
[08:26] <oskude> Tokenbad: and as i said, you need unpartitioned free space to make another partitions... (but some say you can resize existing partitions...)
[08:27] <Chucara> der0b: Ok, I'll experiment a little - thanks
[08:27] <efrancolaporte> for some reason my nvidia-settings.desktop file or whatever was empty no idea why. i pasted back the settings it should have and restarted the x server and now my driver loads
[08:27] <Tokenbad> dark_light, it says the drive is now only 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...so guess it was partitioned...but where
[08:27] <yellow> hey
[08:27] <efrancolaporte> thanks for all your help :-)
[08:27] <der0b> chucara: have fun, it can be time consuming but once you figure it out you're golden :)
[08:27] <afief> yellow, hi
[08:27] <efrancolaporte> i dont know why it was ampty though :| strange
[08:27] <jmitchj> kmaynard: Any luck with how to get to mplayer32
[08:28] <jmitchj> if i want to try and run a program for the Terminal ...what command do i use?
[08:28] <Subhuman> jmitchj, from the terminal?
[08:29] <dark_light> Tokenbad, where? who is saying that your have a 47gb drive? i didn't understand. if your drive has more than 47gb so maybe there are free unused space outside the partition. i am confused. :P
[08:29] <afief> jmitchj: usually the program's name
[08:29] <Subhuman> applicatyions-accesories-terminal
[08:29] <sharperguy> habeeb, terminal to youre folder and run "sudo rm -rf . " (this will delete everything in the folder so make sure its the right one)
[08:29] <jmitchj> yeah...i can't find it anywhere else....but it's installed
[08:29] <Subhuman> or ALT+F2 and tick run in terminal jmitchj
[08:29] <habeeb> sharperguy: ok
[08:29] <afief> jmitchj: which program?
[08:30] <jmitchj> mplayer32
[08:30] <Tokenbad> dark_light, the drive is 80 gig...that I tried to resize I guess...so could have 2 partitions on the drive...df -h says the hdd1 is only 47gigs with 15 gigs free...so the other partition should be some where
[08:30] <habeeb> sharperguy: $ sudo rm -rf .
[08:30] <habeeb> rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
[08:30] <dfgas> anyone here use vmware player?
[08:30] <sharperguy> oh
[08:30] <afief> jmitchj: applications-> accesories -> terminal -> mplayer
[08:30] <der0b> dfgas: yes
[08:30] <sharperguy> try removing the .
[08:30] <dark_light> Tokenbad, no, there are a "free" space of 37gb that is outside partitions
[08:31] <dfgas> der0b, how do i get sound
[08:31] <sharperguy> or changing it to a *
[08:31] <Astrophix> Couldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)
[08:31] <dfgas> der0b, windows xp is the system i am running
[08:31] <jmitchj> i have an amd64 system....will that play mplayer32?...or the regular mplayer?
[08:31] <dark_light> 33*
[08:31] <appelza> Hi guys, I'm having trouble with exim, I installed it and its log shows :  Permission denied: creating lock file hitching post /var/mail/www-data.lock.prophecy.4523fd52.0000073c (euid=33 egid=8)
[08:31] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - How much of the 80g is disk manufacturer math 1g versus 1024mbs?
[08:31] <Subhuman> jmitchj, jus push ALT+F2 and type mplayer in the box
[08:31] <dark_light> Tokenbad, you have to create manually another partition with size 33gb, after your 47gb partition
[08:31] <appelza> What permissions should that have, and why isnt that done on install :|
[08:31] <der0b> dfgas: does the vm have your sound card mapped?
[08:31] <jmitchj> doesn;t work
[08:31] <dfgas> not sure
[08:32] <oskude> appelza: how did you start the program ?
[08:32] <dfgas> alls i know is it says something about direct sound when i try to play winamp
[08:32] <whadar> hello, it seems that my ubuntu lost its sound ability (after an update i think)... i turned on all kinds of volumes in the alsa mixer and still nothing...
[08:32] <sharperguy> Astrophix, I dont think so, I know knoppix lets you do it, but not ubuntu
[08:32] <habeeb> sharperguy: Did that, not really fixed. What are these . and .. folders?
[08:32] <der0b> dfgas: You need to make sure that in the setting of the virtual machine you have a sound card (and that sound card has to be working properly in linux if you want it to work on your vm)
[08:32] <appelza> oskude: it was started automaticly after installed it
[08:32] <Astrophix> Ok, that's what I needed to know, thanks :-)
[08:32] <highneko> !easyubuntu
[08:32] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:32] <StuartWSU> Has anyone ever heard of outbound tcp connections to other IPs with a remote port greater than 1024 be blocked?  I have a machine here that I can connect outside to 983/tcp however if I run a webserver on, say, 8080 on another machine, connecting to it is impossible.  tcpdump shows the packets seemingly leave the machine, however nothing is returned and there is no selinux policy that I can see that is affecting this.  Booting into windoze on th
[08:32] <StuartWSU> e same machine, same mac, same ip and the connection to 8080/tcp works fine.  Any ideas?
[08:32] <afief> subhuman: typing mplayer doesn't do anything because mplayer itself has no GUI
[08:32] <collier> Whats the best IRC clinet for Ubuntu?????//
[08:33] <der0b> dfgas: so just poke around in the virtual machines settings.
[08:33] <dfgas> der0b, in the vmx file?
[08:33] <oskude> appelza: did you install it from ubuntu repos ?
[08:33] <sharperguy> habeeb, . is youre current folder, and .. is the parent folder
[08:33] <jtickle> collier, if you're into graphical stuff, probably X-Chat
[08:33] <jmitchj> it's not even accessible thru "Open with"
[08:33] <Subhuman> afief, i always compile mplayeer with a gui
[08:33] <afief> jmitchj: alt+f2 -> gmplayer works for me
[08:33] <Subhuman> its stupid not too.
[08:33] <appelza> Yes
[08:33] <whadar> collier: gaim
[08:33] <jtickle> you seem to have the IRC problem covered at the moment though
[08:33] <der0b> dfgas: did you create the vm yourself?
[08:33] <sharperguy> habeeb, its just if you want to cd up a level you do "cd .."
[08:33] <alberto> Algum Fala Portugus ?
[08:33] <appelza> exim4 btw
[08:33] <habeeb> sharperguy: Didnt know these were actually hidden folders that could be shown with ls -a
[08:33] <kyja> can two partitions of linux installs dual booting share one swap ?
[08:33] <habeeb> Yeah, got that sharperguy
[08:33] <collier> whadar: GAIM didnt work for me
[08:33] <THX-1138> !pt
[08:33] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:33] <dfgas> der0b, yes
[08:33] <oskude> appelza: hmm, try "sudo /etc/init.d/exim4 restart" (or how its called)
[08:33] <appelza> just tell me what permsions your /var/mail has and ill chown or something :/
[08:33] <afief> subhuman: i don't think he compiled it himself. the default package comes with mplayer= CLI and gmplayer=GUI
[08:33] <alberto> Grato
[08:33] <Tokenbad> dark_light, how....how do I get that 37 gigs back
[08:33] <appelza> I have.
[08:33] <habeeb> !gr
[08:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:33] <whadar> anyone else got that "no sound problem"... ?
[08:34] <jmitchj> afief: command not found
[08:34] <sharperguy> habeeb, u got the full amount of space now?
[08:34] <habeeb> sharperguy: moment.
[08:34] <afief> jmitchj: install gmplayer
[08:34] <oskude> appelza: drwxr-xr-x
[08:34] <dark_light> Tokenbad, create another partition, or resize again your partition/fs to have that space back
[08:34] <der0b> dfgas: you'll have to open it in your vmware application (workstation, server, whatever) to edit the settings.  you can't edit a vm with the player
[08:34] <habeeb> No dammit :( sharperguy ...
[08:34] <Focuz_> re
[08:34] <Focuz_> hello all!
[08:34] <habeeb> sharperguy: Still 680MB free
[08:34] <sharperguy> whats the max?
[08:34] <oskude> appelza: root:root
[08:34] <habeeb> sharperguy: 1000
[08:34] <afief> Tokenbad: use gparted, it works perfectly
[08:34] <StuartWSU> I just setup a webserver on a remote machine listening on 999/tcp.  I can connect to it no problem.  If I bind the remote webserver to 1000/tcp and try to connect - nothing.  Any idea why this would be blocked and where in the OS would it be blocked from?
[08:34] <manuvcube> where do i discuss security-related things about "edgy eft"?
[08:35] <sharperguy> habeeb, not sure why that is,
[08:35] <appelza> and ur exim works?
[08:35] <habeeb> sharperguy: I see :/
[08:35] <sharperguy> you might have to reformat it
[08:35] <habeeb> sharperguy: how?
[08:35] <sharperguy> I'm not sure whats the best way to do it
[08:35] <oskude> appelza: i dont have exim...
[08:35] <sharperguy> but ive used gparted in the past (a partition editor)
[08:36] <uppercuts> how do i get divx support
[08:36] <habeeb> Well, sharperguy that usb device is not on fstab. The mounted place is /mnt/<Some weird name>
[08:36] <afief> sharperguy: why not just resize and move partitions in gparted? it worked seamlessly for me
[08:36] <habeeb> sharperguy: no lies... /media/<Some weird name>
[08:36] <StuartWSU> I just setup a webserver on a remote machine listening on 999/tcp.  I can connect to it no problem from my ubuntu machine both using http://remote:999 and telnet remote 999.  If I bind the remote webserver to 1000/tcp and try to connect - nothing.  Any idea why this would be blocked and where in the OS would it be blocked from?
[08:37] <sureshot> how do i find out what version of glibc i have
[08:37] <sharperguy> afief, its for jsut reformatting a usb drive to one big partition
[08:37] <frojnd> hello there
[08:37] <plutarchos> I see in the ADSLPPPoE wiki that an ethernet card is, dare I say, required. There is no mention of using ADSL via a USB modem.
[08:37] <highneko> uppercuts: http://kb.gosi.at/6_11_en.html
[08:37] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: did you restart the webserver?
[08:37] <THX-1138> !dsl
[08:37] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[08:37] <sharperguy> habeeb, so its dosnt show up in gparted?
[08:37] <Zaggynl> I've got a bunch of avi files I want to make a dvd of, any nice software exists for that in Ubuntu?
[08:37] <highneko> uppercuts: Works for Kubuntu and Ubuntu.
[08:37] <plutarchos> THX-1138, did you read my remark? I'm using a USB ADSL modem.
[08:37] <afief> sharperguy: doesn't he need to repartition anyway? sorry didn't know it's a usb
[08:37] <habeeb> sharperguy: Installing gparted, moment. But well, not in fstab... Let me see what fstab will show.
[08:37] <frojnd> can someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/ (last 3 lines during the firefox32 installation - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32)
[08:38] <Peter77> how easy is it to upgrade drake to edgy on a 250k line?
[08:38] <THX-1138> plutarchos  /msg ubotu !usb
[08:38] <plutarchos> `pppoeconf` furthermore wants modconf which is unavailable in ubuntu - someone needs to address this in the next release.
[08:38] <sharperguy> Peter77, as easy as anything else, it'll just take hours
[08:38] <sureshot> how do i find out what version of glibc i have
[08:38] <StuartWSU> aero: Yes, I bounced the remote webserver to make sure it was bound to 999/tcp and 1000/tcp respectively...  Also connected to the remote box via ssh and then did a telnet localhost to verify the web daemon was bound to the right ports.  however as I said, i go back to my local ubuntu box and try to connect with http://remote:999 or telnet remote 999 - works.  Same with with any port >=1000 and it drops the connection.
[08:39] <ker0uac> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop. How do I get into xwindows? startx and xconfig = command not found
[08:39] <sharperguy> Peter77, wait 250KB or Kb? (bits or bytes)
[08:39] <Peter77> sharperguy: is there a lot to upgrade (MBs)
[08:39] <it> yow
[08:39] <Peter77> 250 Kbits
[08:39] <THX-1138> putarchos - doesn't sound like the "It just works philosophy" - tried and rpm?
[08:39] <it> anyone who has like 5 minutes to answer my n00bquestions?
[08:39] <sharperguy> Peter77, youre on a clean install its about 700MB but theres more to upgrade the more you have
[08:39] <oskude> ker0uac: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:39] <habeeb> sharperguy: nothing on /dev/hdc which is my hd. But there is a /dev/sda which has a size of 235.33MB, which is (I think) the ammount of MB missing from the mp3.
[08:40] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: you can't telnet to port 1000 from localhost?
[08:40] <sharperguy> weird
[08:40] <Peter77> could edgy fix my battery monitor trouble?
[08:40] <oskude> !ask > it
[08:40] <hoss_bert> I managed to mess up my grub installation (described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270736). I'd really appreciated if anyone could help
[08:40] <frojnd> can someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/ (last 3 lines during the firefox32 installation - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32) ??
[08:40] <Peter77> also the live cd doesn't always monitor my battery levels
[08:40] <habeeb> Found it sharperguy ! /dev/sda1, is the usb!
[08:40] <ker0uac> oskude: command not found
[08:40] <plutarchos> THX-1138, which RPM? What I need is a wiki on adsl which focuses on users of USB modems.
[08:40] <sharperguy> habeeb, nothing on /dev/hdc thats not good
[08:41] <habeeb> sharperguy: /dev/sda1 on /media/SGTL MSCN type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[08:41] <ker0uac> oskude: is there something I need to download?
[08:41] <oskude> ker0uac: whan ubuntu did you install ?
[08:41] <edgy> Hi, I installed edgy as chroot in dapper and when I try to play fgfs I got:
[08:41] <edgy> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8762, but
[08:41] <edgy> this client has the version 1.0-8774.  Please make sure that the kernel
[08:41] <edgy> module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[08:41] <ker0uac> oskude: I think it was the desktop.  IS there any way for me to verify?
[08:41] <THX-1138> plutarchos - grab mdconf? and install alien to translate the package. -It doesn't sound likeany fun.
[08:41] <oskude> ker0uac: you didnt write anything on the cd ?
[08:41] <ker0uac> oskude: no
[08:42] <jazzrocker> ok, i just read and followed the instructions in this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server and now i successfully have vmware-server connected to samba on my localhost. how do i add shares? where do i add them?
[08:42] <habeeb> So, I just have to format /dev/sda1, amirite sharperguy ?
[08:42] <ker0uac> how do I start xwindows? DO I first need to check to see whether it was installed?
[08:42] <sharperguy> yea
[08:42] <habeeb> sharperguy: how can I do this? ^_^
[08:42] <plutarchos> THX-1138, all Greek to me mate. I fail to believe there isn't some simple approach 'wifi-fied' somewhere detailign the steps needed.
[08:42] <jazzrocker> ker0uac, usually one of 'startx' or just 'X'
[08:42] <Peter77> hehe I used gparted before to re-partition my HDD
[08:42] <StuartWSU> aero: i cant connect to http://remote:1000 (or greater than 1000) or telnet to remote 1000 (or greater than 1000) from my ubuntu box.   if i have a service on the remote host using a port < 1000, it works fine.
[08:42] <oskude> ker0uac: hmm... good question, but i think _you_ should know which cd image you used...
[08:42] <Peter77> Open Source rules
[08:42] <jazzrocker> ker0uac, startx is usually a script to determine how to run 'X' iirc
[08:42] <sureshot> sorry all if you answered my question i was distracted helping my wife but how do i tell what version of glibc i have
[08:43] <THX-1138>  live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.
[08:43] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: and did you try connecting to the port from the machine the server is running on?
[08:43] <it2> hi
[08:43] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: when it's listening on port 1000 can you connect from the same machine?
[08:43] <StuartWSU> aero: i.e. loopback while on the remote host to make sure the server is running? yes.
[08:43] <it2> my damn windows opera browser crashed
[08:43] <sharperguy> habeeb, like i said, i dont know the best way, but on gparted you just delete all partitions drom that drive, and make one big one (probably with fat32)
[08:43] <starz> im having problems changing the the premissions or some files on a harddrive while booting from a live cd. it just wont let me do it
[08:43] <it2> anywayz, i'm here to get rid of it :p
[08:43] <habeeb> How can I format an external usb drive? The /dev file is /dev/sda1
[08:43] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: what do you see when you type "iptables -L" ?
[08:44] <habeeb> Ok thanks, sharperguy . I'll ask for moar info in the channel, thanks!
[08:44] <pike_> habeeb: mkfs.msdos /dev/sda1 for fat32
[08:44] <ker0uac> oskude: hmm, I just did sudo apt-get insall gdm
[08:44] <ker0uac> oskude: is there anything more I'll need to do?
[08:44] <habeeb> That will erase the existing data, and will restore the mp3 player in its starting "form"?
[08:44] <fuoco> can i use telepathy on dapper to have voip with google talk ?
[08:44] <sureshot> how do i find out what version of glibc i have
[08:45] <oskude> ker0uac: how should i know if i dont even know what you allready have ?
[08:45] <habeeb> That will erase the existing data, and will restore the mp3 player in its starting "form"? pike_
[08:45] <THX-1138> it2 - Opera for linux doesn't run the way you want it to? - Opera is in the commercial non-free repository. 2 packages opera and libqt3-mt
[08:45] <frojnd> ok I am desperated (going to jump from roof :(
[08:45] <frojnd> can someone help me install firefox
[08:45] <pike_> habeeb: you might want to check and make sure there are not files or dir the player needs on there but yes
[08:45] <buzzy-> !mplayer
[08:45] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:45] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:45] <it2> i have this problem: i have a 80 gig hd that i use(d) as a data disk for windows, i partitioned it, and wanted to install ubuntu on an empty partition, now ubuntu has formatted the drive, and installed itself on the entire drive instead of just one partition, how can i make sure this won't happen again?
[08:45] <oskude> frojnd: sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:46] <marcrosoft> Hi, im trying to install vmware-player on ubuntu LTS, kernel: 2.6.15-27-k7, and it cannot seem to open vmmon or the vmnet... i think it has something to do with the kernel version, is there a way to fix this?
[08:46] <frojnd> well..
[08:46] <StuartWSU> aero: on the local box? Nothing..   Its disabled - no rulesets defined.
[08:46] <frojnd> oskude I don't wanna get 64bit
[08:46] <THX-1138> buzzy - Hi,How are things going today?       !<item> > <nickname>
[08:46] <frojnd> oskude: I tryed to install 32 bit
[08:46] <kmaynard> jmitchj: sorry, went afk for a few... try  gmplayer from the terminal. are you trying to manually play a file?
[08:46] <frojnd> with this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32
[08:46] <oskude> frojnd: youre on 64bit ubuntu and want 32bit firefox ?
[08:46] <it2> anyone?
[08:46] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: which os are you using to connect?
[08:46] <sureshot> how do i find out what version of glibc i have
[08:47] <frojnd> oskude: 64bit kubuntu and yes
[08:47] <matt8806suomi> i'm looking for help with a telewell tw-ea200 that i have connected to my ubuntu desktop via usb, i need drivers, maybe or just help configuring it.   The telewell tw-ea200, is a usb ADSL modem
[08:47] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: you already tried telnet form the remote machine, right?
[08:47] <yellow> it2:  when u install
[08:47] <frojnd> oskude: I wanna get 32bit firefox
[08:47] <oskude> sureshot: if its libc6, check the version of that
[08:47] <_eckobar_> hello everybody
[08:47] <yellow> make sure
[08:47] <frojnd> check the link aboce..
[08:47] <oskude> frojnd: ok, no idea :)
[08:47] <frojnd> above*
[08:47] <yellow> u select manual partitioning
[08:47] <THX-1138> it2 - there is an option the 4th in list to define partitions - you need / amd /swap
[08:47] <frojnd> anyone herd for this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32
[08:47] <it2> ok
[08:47] <it2> thx
[08:47] <yellow> yes it2 listen to Thx
[08:47] <sureshot> oskude i need the syntax on how to find out .. what version comes with dapper
[08:48] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: if you want i can try to connect to the host... to rule out that it's your client machine that is the problem
[08:48] <oskude> sureshot: manyways... apt-cache show libc6
[08:48] <it2> so i need to allocate 1 partition for the swap, the other for /ald, right?
[08:48] <oskude> sureshot: dpkg -l | grep libc6
[08:48] <buzzy-> is there any cpu monitor in ubuntu?
[08:48] <pike_> buzzy-: top :)
[08:48] <Neo8750> habeeb: top ??
[08:49] <Neo8750> hmm where did the habeeb come from
[08:49] <buzzy-> ok
[08:49] <StuartWSU> aero: Yes.....  My local machine = ubuntu.  If I connect to my REMOTE machine via ssh - its fine.  when i login to the remote machine and telnet localhost 1000 the server comes up.... if i break the ssh connection and am thus returned back to my ubuntu box and then try to connect to remote on 1000, it hangs.
[08:49] <THX-1138> buzzy - yes in in administration or top or ps -e in the terminal
[08:49] <UKMatt> hey, I'm trying to convert something like a slide show into a a 10 second movie... or even create something from scratch in a program and don't know how to do it in ubuntu
[08:49] <pike_> in fluxbox i use wmcpu or wmcpuload
[08:49] <_eckobar_> problem: want to install compiz, followed steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz but when i want to make apt-get install cms compiz compiz-gnome getting following output from apt: package not installable ... package destroyed (translated from german to englisch from the scratch...real english output differ.) can anybody help me??
[08:49] <buzzy-> !fortran
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fortran - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <kopermine> Hi guys who wants to help a beginner?
[08:50] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: on which ip is the webserver listening?
[08:50] <Zaggynl> kopermine, what's up
[08:50] <Neo8750> kopermine: depends on what you need help with
[08:50] <StuartWSU> aero: you wont be able to get to it
[08:50] <sureshot> oskude thanks i am new at this so i am trying just needed that info for anoter instalation
[08:50] <oskude> UKMatt: hmm, dunno if openoffice can export video, but would be cool...
[08:50] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: you can see it with "netstat -anp | grep 1000" or grep apache
[08:50] <kopermine> I need to access my HD from the ubuntu live cd
[08:50] <oskude> sureshot: np
[08:50] <UKMatt> oskude, well by slideshow all i mean is that its a short basic movie, nothing complex
[08:50] <kopermine> for some reason it only sees my usb hd
[08:50] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: maybe it is only listening on a local ip
[08:50] <it2> ow, now i restarted windows, and i have 1 partition left, it's an empty drive, shoul i partition it in windows or in ubuntu now?
[08:51] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: ok sry.. then it wouldnt work on port 999
[08:51] <StuartWSU> aero: nope because if i take my local ubuntu machine and boot it into windows it works fine. (dual boot)
[08:51] <oskude> UKMatt: hmm, never wanted to do that, but im sure there are tools, atleast for commandline...
[08:51] <StuartWSU> aero: Thats the thing - it does though
[08:51] <jmitchj> Can someone help me with setting up a wireless connection?
[08:51] <UKMatt> oskude, i've been looking and can't find anything
[08:51] <TyggerBob> Hey all. wonder if anyone has any ideas as to what's going wrong for me.  I have an SMC 2532w pcmcia wireless card that doesn't get loaded properly.. I want to use hostap vice orinoco, which seems to be the default.  the hostap module builds fine and, as long as it's the first time after a kernel rebuild, it works fine, but the next time, it won't work .  If I do an iwconfig, it shows the wifi0, but hangs for a bit and then doesn't show
[08:51] <TyggerBob> the wlan0.  I've scoured the net for ideas, but if someone here has any, I'd love to hear them.  Thanks in advance.
[08:52] <dfgas> der0b, nothing shows up in windows for device
[08:52] <oskude> UKMatt: mencoder and transcode (and many other terminal tools) can do videos from images
[08:52] <ker0uac> I just downloaded and installed gdm
[08:52] <ker0uac> xconfig doesn't work
[08:52] <ker0uac> neither does startx
[08:52] <ker0uac> is there something I am missing?
[08:52] <oskude> ker0uac: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[08:52] <THX-1138> jmitchj: Did the GUI Aystem .. Admin .. networking configure it?
[08:52] <UKMatt> oskude, hmm well what about this, looking through open office it says I can export as .swf, can that be saved onto and played on a DVD?
[08:53] <oskude> UKMatt: not as dvd video
[08:53] <oskude> UKMatt: so you want to do dvd video ?
[08:53] <ker0uac> oskude: is that the whole cd?
[08:53] <jmitchj> it says activated, but i can;t access
[08:54] <oskude> ker0uac: what cd ?
[08:54] <UKMatt> oskude, I want to create a short... like 2 picture w/ transition clip and burn it to a dvd
[08:54] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: dont know what the problem is, maybe iptables rules on your client machine? i'd try port forwarding... to redirect port 1000 to port 999 or something =)
[08:54] <oskude> UKMatt: and be able to play that wiht a regular dvd player ?
[08:54] <UKMatt> oskude, yeah
[08:54] <orn> Hi. Is there a tool to detect the settings of a new monitor in ubuntu?
[08:54] <oskude> UKMatt: i think transcode and mencoder can do that too, there are even tools to make dvd (video) menus...
[08:55] <jmitchj> THX-1138: as soon as i close The network settings window and come back it;s deactivated again
[08:55] <THX-1138> UKMatt - Take a peek at mplayer or mencoder. - Will those do?
[08:55] <kopermine> any idea guys? my xp crashed and trying to restore some files through ubuntu
[08:55] <bluefox83> how do you get your computer's ip from terminal while behind a router?
[08:55] <UKMatt> don't know anything about mencoder, limme look
[08:55] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: maybe another service listening on port 1000?
[08:55] <bluefox83> ifconfig is returning the ip the router dishes out
[08:55] <pike_> kopermine: sudo fdisk -l"
[08:55] <oskude> bluefox83: ifconfig
[08:56] <THX-1138> jmitchij - Ok, i am a bit new but can help you gather more info. sudo lspci    sudo lsmod
[08:56] <oskude> bluefox83: you wanted the ip of your computer
[08:56] <pike_> kopermine: without the "
[08:56] <Vornotron> okay.  automated CD burning requires that I use cdrecord.  (is this a correct statement?  or is there a wrapper that handles things for me?)  I've got a cdrecord HOWTO from http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html , but it's six years old, mentions considerable voodoo, and I can't tell how much of it would be done for me in a modern distribution.  So question is:  how much easier is it to burn CDs now than it was then?
[08:56] <UKMatt> thx-1138, oskude, does mencoder have a GUI?  I have the package installed (probably for tovid)
[08:56] <jstarcher> how do I get the size of a directory? Like read the size of everything inside from command line?
[08:56] <oskude> UKMatt: dunno, but i doubt
[08:57] <bluefox83> oskude, somehow an ip starting with 172 does nto sound like a real internet ip
[08:57] <habeeb> Hmm, who told me the way to format that usb mp3 player? I think I just screwed it up ^_^
[08:57] <oskude> bluefox83: 172 ? hmm...
[08:57] <anon32> whoa, traffic prioritization is sweet!
[08:57] <THX-1138> UKMatt - I have only played with it. - not familiar with tovid.
[08:57] <bluefox83> oskude, yes..as in a router's defined ip
[08:58] <pike_> kopermine: if the drive or partition shows up it will be something like /dev/hda1 you would mount it like sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[08:58] <caseyomah> How do I make wine start Windows Executables when I double-click?
[08:58] <jmitchj> THX-1138: What do i do with all that info?
[08:58] <THX-1138> anon32 - conntrack - nerdy fun rofl
[08:58] <bluefox83> oskude, my freind needs me to ssh into his machine and fix his X config, but we can't get his real ip
[08:58] <oskude> bluefox83: on default, (mostly) you get a 192.168.x.x ip from routers dhcp
[08:58] <habeeb> pike_: Well, have a few problems... The device is still recognised by the PC. But, it doesnt show the menus etc...
[08:58] <vanisher> bluefox83: www.whatismyip.com
[08:58] <bluefox83> vanisher, from TERMINAL
[08:59] <habeeb> pike_: It just shows the "splash screen" when you open the mp3 player, and then nothing.. It stucks there.
[08:59] <oskude> bluefox83: there you need the ip of the friends router, not the computers ip...
[08:59] <bluefox83> as in no X, no way to use a browser
[08:59] <kopermine> pike_:then i still don't see the partitions from ubuntu
[08:59] <TyggerBob> guess no one has any ideas, eh?
[08:59] <TyggerBob> Thanks anyway.
[08:59] <kopermine> pike_:suspect a corrupt hybernate file
[08:59] <vanisher> lynx www.whatismyip.com
[08:59] <oskude> bluefox83: there are web browsers allso for terminal...
[08:59] <aeroSoul> bluefox83: he could use bitchx and come to irc... there you see his ip =)
[08:59] <caseyomah> bluefox83: lynx.
[08:59] <jstarcher> how do I get the size of a directory? Like read the size of everything inside from command line?
[08:59] <pike_> habeeb: try mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:00] <bluefox83> aeroSoul, he's in irssi and i still get the wrong ip
[09:00] <oskude> jstarcher: du
[09:00] <THX-1138> jmitchj - copy and paste wifi info to a note. paste the note to pastebin most here know a lot more than i.
[09:00] <bluefox83> so what.. lynx www.whatismyip.com?
[09:00] <anon32> jstarcher try ls -l
[09:00] <habeeb> And now pike_ ?
[09:00] <oskude> jstarcher: "du -h" to make it "human" readable
[09:00] <habeeb> pike_: $ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[09:00] <habeeb> mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock
[09:00] <krazykit> i can't kill this process... i've done kill -9 as root, too...
[09:00] <caseyomah> bluefox83: Yep.
[09:00] <Justm3> hey, plz help me with this stuff:
[09:00] <Justm3> I got the cds of Ubuntu today so i booted from the cd. I tried Ubuntu then decided to install it.
[09:00] <Justm3> When i reached the Partition Step (Step 5), i was confused . I selected manually edit partition table.
[09:00] <Justm3> 1. I want to install Ubuntu on the last partition (sda7) it is 20GB Fat32, is this fine for the installation?
[09:00] <Justm3> 2. I can resize that partition so that i can get 500 MB for swap partition, but what i want to know is how do i select it to be a swap partition (do i select "linux-swap" in the filesystem dropdown)?
[09:00] <Justm3> 3. Why is it showing the first partition (sda1) as the a boot lba (and what does boot lba mean?), would it affect my Win XP installation?
[09:00] <THX-1138> jmitchj > !paste
[09:00] <Justm3> 4. Ok, then i move on to the next step.
[09:01] <Justm3> Where every partition is set as "/media/sda#"
[09:01] <Justm3> should i change "/media/sda7" to "/"?
[09:01] <oskude> !enter
[09:01] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:01] <Justm3> 5. When selecting the swap partition in the same step as above, should i select the swap partition as "/swap"?
[09:01] <oskude> !paste
[09:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:01] <Vornotron> (also I'm having trouble with screen resolution, but I haven't gotten around to looking up the documentation for that job)
[09:01] <jmitchj> !paste
[09:01] <caseyomah> bluefox83: If that doesn't work you can apt-get install lynx
[09:01] <jstarcher> oskude, du? heh never heard of that before, thanks, I'll give it a shot!
[09:01] <plutarchos> What's the quickest way to find VP/VC values for an ADSL connection?
[09:01] <pike_> habeeb: hmm try unplugging it and turing it off /on
[09:01] <jstarcher> anon32, yeah that will show the files size but not directory sizes :-(
[09:01] <SeanTater> !paste > Justm3
[09:01] <vanisher> bluefox83 lynx is a text based browser
[09:02] <oskude> jstarcher: "man du" > "du - estimate file space usage"
[09:02] <jstarcher> ls
[09:02] <bluefox83> vanisher, yes yes..i know
[09:02] <Justm3> thx ubotu
[09:03] <jmitchj> so once i paste it...then what?
[09:03] <THX-1138> plutarchos - This is rough. It will get easier. - What is VP/VC?  - will netstat or ifconfig help?
[09:03] <benaocaz_> soi el ligon y estoy falde
[09:03] <vanisher> jmitchj: patste the link here
[09:03] <benaocaz_> qien se atreve
[09:03] <jstarcher> oskude, whoa, that just throws out a size of all the files inside it. I want to know the total size of everything within a specific directory. I'll read the man real quick to see if I can do that with du
[09:04] <habeeb> pike_: nothing.. But let me try another time.. btw, whats the chance that it completely fucked up?
[09:04] <paolob> Hi guys! is there in ubuntu a software to manage a little sale point?
[09:04] <jmitchj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25682/
[09:04] <habeeb> I got this error pike_ : mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock
[09:04] <pike_> jstarcher: du -ach directory the last line will have a total you can even pipe it through grep and just get that line
[09:04] <oskude> jstarcher: look at the very last entry, what does it show ?
[09:04] <yellow> hey guys
[09:05] <[Jonne] > I can't start Konqueror and Amarok. I have the Gnome desktop, and I think it's related to XGL. Can somebody help?
[09:05] <pike_> habeeb: what kind of mp3 player?
[09:05] <smyru> Hi, can I build a *.deb binary from an installed package? I mean I have f.e. zip installed in the system, and I want to package it to .deb. A reverse action to installing from .deb. Is there any tool to do that?
[09:05] <oskude> jstarcher: but you can use "-hs" to show only that last entry
[09:05] <kopermine> pike_: any ideas left?
[09:05] <habeeb> pike_: an unknown one, from a local company. It was acting entirely as an external hard drive, because I started screwing up..
[09:06] <jstarcher> oskude, yeah it does show the directories but there are a lot of files and it's hard to find them all with so much outputting
[09:06] <habeeb> Actually pike_ , before that format command you gave me, I could enter songs, I just had 400MB of unused space wasted, without a reason.
[09:06] <pike_> kopermine: sorry
[09:06] <habeeb> pike_: (not blaming you of course.)
[09:06] <jmitchj> now wait for someone to look at it?
[09:06] <oskude> jstarcher: you did want to know how much a dir is using space ?
[09:07] <jstarcher> oskude, yea
[09:07] <oskude> jstarcher: so wheres the problem ?
[09:07] <jstarcher> oskude, It's just showing me too much lol, I want to see just the directorys on the screen
[09:07] <vanisher> jmitchj: indeed ;-) what is your problem, paste that together with the link
[09:07] <jstarcher> ahhh I got it
[09:07] <jstarcher> it shows it right
[09:07] <benaocaz_> qie qiere ligar desde benaocaz
[09:08] <jeevesbond> Hello, am attempting to compile Wine from source (in Edgy), but it always segfaults due to this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/56965 (which neither party seem willing to fix). To workaround the bug I need to add '-fno-stack-protector' to my CFLAGS. Where are CFLAGS defined? In Gentoo they seem to be stored in /etc/make.conf, but in the Ubuntu Edgy environment that file does not exist?!
[09:08] <jstarcher> pike_, thanks, worked great
[09:08] <jmitchj> I can;t get my Wireless to work on my laptop...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25682/
[09:08] <jstarcher> oskude, thanks for the help, I appreciate ti
[09:08] <habeeb> pike_: any ideas? :/
[09:09] <oskude> jeevesbond: i assume those are normal environment variables, so you set them like in the terminal
[09:09] <oskude> jeevesbond: see "./configure --help"
[09:09] <jeevesbond> Ahhh, ok great! Thanks for the help oskude!
[09:10] <pike_> habeeb: format should be fat32 you might try formatting it in windows..
[09:10] <oskude> jeevesbond: or you can manually add them to the "Makefile"
[09:10] <habeeb> pike_: which I dont have... I cant format it in Linux? And the menus etc, will be restored? :/
[09:11] <jeevesbond> Hmmm, I think Wine has piles of makefiles... :D
[09:11] <pike_> habeeb: you should be able to yes
[09:11] <habeeb> pike_: 22:11 < pike_> habeeb: you should be able to yes
[09:11] <THX-1138> jeevesbond - vitamin #winehq is an encyclopedia.
[09:11] <habeeb> oops :P
[09:11] <habeeb> pike_: what about: " mkfs.msdos -F 32 /dev/xxx"
[09:11] <jstarcher> oskude and pike_, fyi the "-s" argument was what I wanted
[09:12] <jstarcher> just a summary :-P
[09:12] <pike_> habeeb: there wasnt any other files in that partition  before you formatted?
[09:12] <oskude> jstarcher: did i say that ? ;)
[09:12] <jeevesbond> Oh, I see. But there is one overriding one. Thanks guys
[09:12] <habeeb> pike_: I couldnt check it out. But well, the /media/usb which was mounted on, was completely empty.
[09:12] <pike_> habeeb: you could try that depending on the player
[09:13] <pike_> habeeb: wont hurt anything :)
[09:13] <jstarcher> oskude, ohahha I missed that message, sorry
[09:14] <cipher_nemo> How do I logout and close X in ubuntu?
[09:14] <habeeb> Tried fat32 with that command I gave you pike_ , still endless splash screen and nothing more...
[09:14] <vanisher> ctrl-backspace? ;-)
[09:14] <habeeb> btw, I cant mount it... Because of "bad superblock" any ideas?
[09:14] <ChickenTalons> habeeb = your HD is going back to allah
[09:14] <pike_> habeeb: try taking battery out and replacing
[09:15] <dredhammer> hello all does gnomebaker 0.6.0 have overburn options in it? Went to the support forums and saw this screenshot http://static.flickr.com/30/91544734_53c7c99d90_o.png
[09:15] <habeeb> ChickenTalons: What do you mean, sir?
[09:15] <jstarcher> you know how when you do "cd .." it brings you up a directory? Is there a way to go up two or three at a time?
[09:15] <dredhammer> but when i compiled the latest version i don't have the overburn option
[09:15] <cipher_nemo> How do I logout and --close-- X in ubuntu?
[09:16] <pike_> jstarcher: cd ../ for back one or ../../ for two etc
[09:16] <ChickenTalons> habeeb, cmon man, that couldnt be that hard to understand.
[09:16] <oskude> Llewxam: what happens when you run "sudo /etc/init.d/hdm restart" ?
[09:16] <vanisher> jstarcher: cd .. cd ../..
[09:16] <oskude> Llewxam: what happens when you run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" ? (sorry typo)
[09:16] <jstarcher> nice, thanks guys!
[09:16] <Llewxam> oskude: the same thing that always happens. after hte login page i get a black screen.
[09:16] <jstarcher> linux is sooo nice
[09:16] <habeeb> ChickenTalons: Actually, what HD are you talking about? :/
[09:16] <jstarcher> screw windows forever
[09:17] <jmitchj> Is anyone able to help me activate my wireless connection on my laptop?...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25682/
[09:17] <vanisher> jstarcher: sorry mate MS flightsim is not running yet ;-)
[09:17] <Hizer> Anyone know of any good free web hosting that support MySQL and Php?
[09:17] <oskude> Llewxam: do you see any errors with "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[09:17] <ChickenTalons> habeeb, the one with the bad superblock. Someone must have fatwah'd on it
[09:17] <cipher_nemo> How do I logout and --close-- X in ubuntu? (should be a simple question and answer) :(
[09:17] <der0b> omg, why have I been terrified of setting up cron jobs??   crontab -e just makes it so easy!  ack..  what a fool!
[09:17] <jstarcher> vanisher, you mean it's not on *nix yet?
[09:17] <oskude> Hizer: if you find one, please let me know too ;)
[09:18] <Llewxam> oskude: not with that but i found some errors with xauth.
[09:18] <habeeb> Thats my poor usb mp3 player ChickenTalons
[09:18] <habeeb> And yes I fucked it up ^_^
[09:18] <oskude> Llewxam: ah, interestin, what ?
[09:18] <Hizer> I thought about using HostUltra but I hear it is a horrid service.
[09:18] <ChickenTalons> habeeb, someone must have declared a jihad on it b/c of your poor taste in music
[09:18] <jeevesbond> cipher_nemo: There should be a little icon on the top-right I think. A little door and an arrow
[09:18] <Paddy_EIRE> cipher_nemo: either use the quit button on the top panel far left, or System > Quit
[09:19] <pike_> jmitchj: have you tried sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`   yet? the `` arent quotes
[09:19] <cipher_nemo> jeevesbond: but this will just get me back to a login screen for gnome/X... I want command line
[09:19] <habeeb> ChickenTalons: I'm in a quite sensitive situation right now, no religious things at this moment, please :P
[09:19] <Llewxam> to make it simple it says i got an error in locking new authority, fatal server error: server is already active for display 0
[09:19] <[Silver> Test
[09:19] <jeevesbond> You can go down a runlevel or two using the 'init' command
[09:20] <habeeb> What is the superblock error btw ChickenTalons ?
[09:20] <oskude> Llewxam: hmm, do you have kdm/kde running ? (or even xdm)
[09:20] <Tokenbad> I forgot who I was talking to about the drive problem...plumber showed up and had to go deal with that
[09:20] <jonah1980> hi can anyone help me upload a file with gftp, it'll only let me access the site with the http protocol, but won't let me upload anything, but i can download
[09:20] <jeevesbond> Or if you want to leave X running in the background press: ctrl-alt-F2
[09:20] <Llewxam> oskude: none of the above. only gnome.
[09:20] <jeevesbond> Or ctrl-alt-F3
[09:20] <Tokenbad> oskude, and pike_ I know was helping but not sure whoelse
[09:20] <Tokenbad> but back to my problem...
[09:20] <jeevesbond> And so on...
[09:20] <vanisher> cipher_nemo: ctrl-backspace?
[09:21] <Tokenbad> I ran fsck on the drive...it fixed part of the space problem that gparted did...but need to find a way to get the rest of the space back
[09:21] <oskude> Llewxam: well, something is running allready if xauth says... or is that maybe an old message ?
[09:21] <habeeb> pike_: If I return it back (its on guarantee) will they be able to restore it?
[09:22] <Llewxam> it's what i got after typing startx, and it's the same message i get.
[09:22] <pike_> habeeb: if you do that admit nothing :)
[09:22] <oskude> Llewxam: you should not use startx!
[09:22] <pike_> habeeb: it just doesnt work you dont know why.  whats a linux? etc
[09:22] <jmitchj> pike: I hadn;t tried that, but am trying now
[09:22] <jeevesbond> vanisher: Seems he might have pressed some of those buttons we told him about... Waits for 'Connetion reset by peer' message :)
[09:22] <habeeb> haha
[09:22] <habeeb> Ok pike_
[09:22] <sharperguy> gdm
[09:22] <Tokenbad> oskude, any idea where I can find the space that it is saying is used even though its not?
[09:23] <vanisher> jeevesbond: yess, guess he managed to get to the cli
[09:23] <jmitchj> pike: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic is already the newest version.
[09:23] <jmitchj> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:23] <bluefox83> doesn't X create a file someplace when it starts up X to prevent multiple X sessions from being started?
[09:23] <habeeb> That evil uncle screwed it up, pike_  >:
[09:23] <Llewxam> >.<' k... well i just want to fix this.
[09:23] <[SBM] Hizer> www.freewebs.com/silverbulletmonks
[09:23] <oskude> Tokenbad: the last time you said cfdisk has a 77gb partition and a 2gb partitions, so that makes 80gb...
[09:23] <[SBM] Hizer> What do you think of that layout?
[09:23] <harisund_> has anybody successfully Yahoo! music videos in Ubuntu? What have they used?
[09:23] <ubuntu__> hi guys
[09:23] <jstarcher> whats up
[09:23] <stealth_> hey guys, I just installed kubuntu edgy. Turns out I don't like KDE as much as Gnome. Is there a way to replace kubuntu with ubuntu w/o reinstalling?
[09:23] <vanisher> [SMB] Hizer, way to dar
[09:23] <vanisher> dark
[09:24] <jstarcher> stealth_ iirc there is
[09:24] <ubuntu__> stealth_,  i think u can
[09:24] <habeeb> pike_: so that, "superblock" error, is not fixable?
[09:24] <ubuntu__> stealth_,  look in adept
[09:24] <heanol_> question..
[09:24] <ubuntu__> for ubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <jmitchj> pike_: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic is already the newest version.
[09:24] <jmitchj> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:24] <oskude> Llewxam: i would recommend restarting the pc and looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[09:24] <dredhammer> does the latest gnomebaker have overburn in it?
[09:24] <pike_> habeeb: it is but you need some more info on your mp3 player maybe there is no reason you cant reformat the partition and have it work
[09:24] <cipher_nemo> How do I close gnome/x and get to a command prompt? (no, logout does not close x, I want to quit x completely)
[09:24] <heanol_> i have hda,sda,sdb,sdc,sdd,sde.. what hd should grub install to?
[09:24] <stealth_> I know you would install ubuntu with ubuntu-desktop, but removing kubuntu-desktop is the trickier thing isn't it?
[09:24] <jstarcher> stealth_ In synaptic you can remove it
[09:24] <heanol_> i have hda,sda,sdb,sdc,sdd,sde.. i would like grub to install to sde, what hd should grub install to?
[09:24] <Llewxam> oskude: precisely what should i look for in the log?
[09:25] <SinnerG> a Bind Q: is it possible to include every file in a certain folder? like include "/some/path/*.bind" ? Anyone knows? I cant test it atm and nobody answered me on #bind the whole day :p
[09:25] <ubuntu__> stealth_,  i installed kubuntu from ubuntu , if that makes sense
[09:25] <ubuntu__> ;)
[09:25] <oskude> cipher_nemo: gnome runs in "ctrl+alt+f7" f1-f6 are consoles...
[09:25] <buzzy-> !floppy
[09:25] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[09:25] <oskude> Llewxam: normally its an [EE]  in the beginning of a line
[09:25] <Llewxam> k i'll try that and come back
[09:25] <cipher_nemo> oskude: I don't want x running at all... how do consoles help me?
[09:26] <oskude> cipher_nemo: so you dont really have to close gnome to get to the console
[09:26] <ubuntu__> !snort
[09:26] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 347 kB, installed size 824 kB
[09:26] <pike_> jmitchj: sorry not any more advise other than searching ubuntuforums.org for your card maybe
[09:26] <cipher_nemo> oskude: no, I don't want a terminal window
[09:26] <oskude> cipher_nemo: ok, then go to console and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[09:26] <cipher_nemo> oskude: ty!
[09:26] <vanisher> cipher_nemo: set your runlevel to 3
[09:27] <ubuntu__> any1 installed XGL here?
[09:27] <oskude> cipher_nemo: and i didnt say anthing about a terminal window, i said going to console with "ctrl+alt+f1"
[09:28] <pike_> !xgl > ubuntu__
[09:28] <jstarcher> Is there a way to show how much of you swap is being used? It doesn't show it in df
[09:28] <ubuntu__> pike_, ty
[09:28] <jeevesbond> cipher_nemo: Open a terminal and type 'init 3' (think that works from a terminal window)--as vanisher recommended.
[09:28] <oskude> jstarcher: free
[09:28] <jstarcher> thx
[09:29] <oskude> jstarcher: free -m (for megabytes)
[09:30] <jeevesbond> "<- cipher_nemo has disconnected (Remote closed the connection)" I suppose that worked then...
[09:30] <jstarcher> whoa!
[09:30] <jstarcher> looks like I should get some more ram on my server
[09:30] <jstarcher> 256mb and 246 is used
[09:31] <jstarcher> -_-
[09:31] <jeevesbond> Yes ubuntu__ I have xgl
[09:31] <oskude> jstarcher: uninstall gnome & co in server...
[09:31] <ubuntu__> jeevesbond, kool , any improvment in performance or anything?
[09:31] <oskude> jstarcher: actually theres even an iso for server isntallation
[09:32] <habeeb> pike_: I'll annoy you some more, sorry. After a reboot I got some changes. First of all, /dev/sda1 dissapeared and /dev/sda took its place, and I got these errors: http://pastebin.ca/191198 . Check them out, in case something changed, if you'd like.
[09:32] <jstarcher> oskude, it's not ubuntu on that rig, it's slackware :-P
[09:32] <earthian> hello
[09:32] <earthian> my PPP is spaming my copnsole :(
[09:32] <earthian> console*
[09:32] <pike_> jstarcher: i run xubuntu on 256 and and its my server and media box
[09:32] <earthian> how to stop that?
[09:32] <jeevesbond> ubuntu__: Performance? Well everyone who owns an ATI card is waiting for them to release drivers so we wont need XGL anymore :)
[09:33] <ubuntu__> jeevesbond,  aah ok, well u see i have crappy intel onboard card
[09:33] <jstarcher> pike_: yeah I dunno why it's all used up? Is there a way to show what pid's are using it?
[09:33] <jeevesbond> If you want XGL performance, get an nVidia card and you wont need to run XGL at all. :)
[09:33] <ubuntu__> earthian,  hi
[09:33] <Lard-O-Lad> does the ubuntu livecd run any daemons?
[09:33] <earthian> hi
[09:33] <jeevesbond> Ahhhh, I know how you feel mate
[09:33] <Ander_> hi
[09:33] <plutarchos> jstarcher, you wouldn't know a trick for finding the VP/VC value (ADSL etc) would you? I happen to be connected presently via a USB ADSL modem on WinXP - any files here which can be analysed?
[09:33] <ubuntu__> earthian,  try network-admin as root or gksu network-admin
[09:33] <earthian> my ATI uses fglrx? is that the same as XGL?
[09:33] <oskude> Lard-O-Lad: propably
[09:33] <ubuntu__> Lard-O-Lad,  yep they do
[09:33] <earthian> what i will see there ubuntu__ ?
[09:34] <oskude> earthian: no
[09:34] <ubuntu__> earthian,  net control options :)
[09:34] <jstarcher> plutarchos, nope, sorry
[09:34] <Lard-O-Lad> i have a PC without a monitor, does the Live CD run a ssh server/ftpd?
[09:34] <pike_> habeeb: lets just do sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and then delete sda1 and select write and then recreate it and write and then quit and then mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:34] <ubuntu__> Lard-O-Lad,  ssh =yes, ftp = no
[09:34] <oskude> Lard-O-Lad: not automaticly
[09:34] <jstarcher> oskude: hmm why is it not showing the correct amounts when I do free -m?
[09:35] <plutarchos> jstarcher, no problem - next quickie, I've selected my rather basic Lexmark printer (parallel port connected) from the printer config on Ubuntu... yet it isn't adding.
[09:35] <Lard-O-Lad> oskude
[09:35] <oskude> jstarcher: it doesnt ? how do you know ?
[09:35] <plutarchos> jstarcher, liveCD version. Is this a known problem? Or will it only work on the installed version?
[09:35] <earthian> ubuntu__, where should i look exactly? i am sorry but i do not know what causes the sapmming in console :(
[09:35] <jstarcher> oskude: it says I'm using almost all 2gb on my worksation, but krellm says I'm not even using a gig
[09:35] <jeevesbond> earthian: No, fglrx is the proprietary driver from ATI. XGL is some malarky that allows Beryl to work
[09:35] <Tokenbad> oskude, well after ran fsck to try and fix what qparted did....it now says have a 47 gig drive with like 15 gigs free
[09:35] <earthian> spamming*
[09:35] <earthian> thanks jeevesbond :)
[09:35] <oskude> jstarcher: hmm...
[09:35] <pike_> jstarcher: ubuntu's going to use whatever available ram you have for stuff free doesnt really give you a good idea it would look like you needed more if you had 512 and typed free
[09:36] <kothz> linux memory management is a bit obscure to mere mortals.  It'll use up all its ram, without freeing it.
[09:36] <Tokenbad> oskude, so now its missing like 30 gigs
[09:36] <Mouldy> Hey all! I'm having a problem reading floppies, I put it in and have no way of accessing them. Any fix for this?
[09:36] <habeeb> Actually pike_ , its 1GB of free space, nothing inside.
[09:36] <pike_> jstarcher: although with gnome you do prob need more
[09:36] <habeeb>    Name        Flags      Part Type  FS Type          [Label]         Size (MB)
[09:36] <habeeb>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[09:36] <habeeb>                             Pri/Log   Free Space                         992.93
[09:36] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  try mountign them manually
[09:36] <it2> yow, anyone who knows how i can partition my harddrive in ubuntu?
[09:36] <oskude> Tokenbad: sorry, im tired to start explaining partitions atm...
[09:36] <jeevesbond> Beryl does funky effects on your desktop (it's/was also known as compiz)...Just in case you didn't know
[09:36] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, how? mount /media/floppy0?
[09:36] <earthian> omfg!!! o_O
[09:36] <earthian> Mem:       1033564    1003052      30512
[09:36] <Dr_willis> it2,  gparted, or the othe rfdisking tools
[09:37] <earthian> total used free
[09:37] <earthian> ^^
[09:37] <earthian> omg i am out of mem
[09:37] <earthian> :/
[09:37] <it2> ty dr willis
[09:37] <oskude> jstarcher: well, i usually trust free more than kgrellm...
[09:37] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0   (or similer line)
[09:37] <jstarcher> pike_: it's slackware.....
[09:37] <pike_> jstarcher: same principal
[09:37] <it2> wow damn, my system restarted and i get this msg: grub loading, plz wait errror 17
[09:38] <it2> anyone?
[09:38] <jstarcher> oskude: I don't....theres nothing running to use that much ram. Gnome system monitor says the same as krellm too
[09:38] <jstarcher> pike_: yeah, I'm not running any WM on that rig
[09:38] <jstarcher> just CL
[09:38] <suff0kate> how come when i do tsocks gaim it won't let me connect anymore everything is set up right
[09:38] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, Ok, I tried that, the drive made a bit of noise and then terminal said "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[09:38] <kothz> Your OS will manage the RAM.  It won't necessarily free it.
[09:38] <oskude> jstarcher: hmm, so you got 2gb ram and how much swap ?
[09:39] <it2> help help
[09:39] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  its worth wile learning how to manually mount things.. :P if its a dos floppy use -t fat
[09:39] <jstarcher> oskude: yes 2gb ram and 2gb swap
[09:39] <it2> grub loading error 17, anyone who knows this?
[09:39] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  mount -t fat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[09:39] <habeeb> pike_: Since its just empty space should I create a sda1? :/
[09:39] <THX-1138>  kthz - Had you seen "linux swappiness" discussed on th 'Net?
[09:39] <it2> i get this immediatly afetr startup
[09:39] <pike_> habeeb: write the changes then create sda1 and write again and quit
[09:40] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, Yeah, I managed to get it working using -t vfat (is there a difference between that and fat?) I was also assuming that ubuntu could just mount them automatically? Is there a way to do that rather than doing it manually all the time?
[09:40] <it2> looks like i can't even acces my bios
[09:40] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  its supposed to mount them.. i recall finding the floppy in the media stuff and rightclick/mounting them.. but i dont mess with them much
[09:40] <jstarcher> oskude: gnome system monitor says I'm using 820mb ram and 20mb swap
[09:41] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  the # of floppys i use a year < 2 :)
[09:41] <Dr_willis> This is the only machine i got out of like 9 that has a floppy.
[09:41] <Demo1> evening all
[09:41] <Jowi> it2: how many harddisks do you have? what type of harddisks (IDE or SATA)?
[09:41] <oskude> jstarcher: hmm, system monitor says 178 ram used here, and free says 178mb too ...
[09:41] <highneko> How can I get rid of the window outlines when minimizing? I found some information about removing the outline when programs are started, but not for minimizing.
[09:41] <habeeb> pike_: sda1 will be bootable?
[09:41] <pike_> habeeb: yeah flag it bootable
[09:41] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, even so, would have thought technology as old as floppy drives would "just work" :p
[09:41] <oskude> jstarcher: -/+ buffers/cache:        178
[09:41] <Dr_willis> highneko,  yep - i find that annoying also.. but the gnome guys dont like to give us too many options.
[09:42] <it2> jowi: i have 2 hd's 1 10 gig with ms installed, a 80 gb with ubuntu on it
[09:42] <oskude> jstarcher: and swap used is the same too :/
[09:42] <it2> both are ata
[09:42] <Demo1> anyone here got a problem I can attempt to help with? (I am over due to help some people)
[09:42] <it2> ide
[09:42] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  the system really dosetn have a method to realize the floppy has changed.. DOS sort of faked it.. and windows i think just constantly scans..
[09:42] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  or at least i think thats how it works.
[09:42] <THX-1138> jstarcher - Do you have a server installed?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  learning to MOUNT things yourself is the best idea. the auto-mounting stuff just causes more hassles.
[09:42] <habeeb> I created the partition but there is no /dev/sda1 pike_
[09:43] <blabla> Demo1, you have one
[09:43] <StAfZe6> hello
[09:43] <pike_> habeeb: what did it call it?
[09:43] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  also umount the floppy befor removing it
[09:43] <Jowi> it2: if you can do this in bios, change the boot order of the harddisks. if you can not, physically change the order of them.
[09:43] <str47> hey
[09:43] <StAfZe6> no
[09:43] <jstarcher> THX-1138, yes
[09:43] <str47> ?
[09:43] <it2> ok, thx
[09:43] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, What happens if I don't (umount)? Corrupt data or something?
[09:43] <Jowi> it2: wait
[09:43] <habeeb> pike_: I called it "sda1" and it appears alright in cfdisk /dev/sda
[09:43] <it2> i can't acces the bios, so i'll fysicly change the order
[09:43] <jstarcher> oskude: appearently the +/- thing is the real number
[09:43] <Demo1> mmm apparently so blabla
[09:43] <oskude> jstarcher: yup
[09:43] <habeeb> But there isnt a sda1 in the /dev directory pike_
[09:43] <Jowi> it2: can you see grub at all?
[09:43] <jstarcher> oskude, cool thanks
[09:43] <pike_> habeeb: now after exiting cfdisk type mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:44] <habeeb> pike_: That sda1, was a partition right?
[09:44] <it2> what is grub?
[09:44] <Demo1> it2
[09:44] <habeeb> But there is no /dev/sda1 pike_  :3
[09:44] <Demo1> grub is grand unified bootloader
[09:44] <zool2005> evenin all
[09:44] <THX-1138> jstarcher - 1.2g here and no swapfile usage. - wondering if apache always uses swap. google "linux swappiness" good explanation and tweaks
[09:44] <pike_> habeeb: yeah sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:44] <Justy-> hi =)
[09:44] <Jowi> it2: the boot manager. you can select which kernel to use or boot windows for example
[09:44] <it2> nope
[09:44] <jstarcher> oskude & pike_: only 108mb used on the slackware server after all :-D
[09:44] <it2> can't see it
[09:44] <habeeb> pike_: /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[09:44] <whyso> can most games run in wine?
[09:44] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  or worse. :)
[09:44] <Jowi> it2: so switch the order of the disks. see if that helps
[09:44] <Justy-> question: I have a sda hdd which has a format of NTFS
[09:44] <pike_> habeeb: did you write changes before exiting cfdisk?
[09:45] <it2> ok, i'll try
[09:45] <Dr_willis> whyso,  SOME games can run with wine
[09:45] <Demo1> can't see what it2?
[09:45] <Jowi> it2: why can't you access BIOS btw?
[09:45] <zool2005> is it possible to do a minimal install of ubuntu to use on an old laptop? I want to choose my own packages to avoid bloat
[09:45] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, oh noes! :o Either way though, it's a bit daft that a user-friendly distro like ubuntu can't handle floppys :p
[09:45] <habeeb> Yes, and now when I do "cfdisk /dev/sda" the partition appears alright.
[09:45] <Justy-> question: I go to SystemAdmin.Disk manager
[09:45] <bluefox83> anyone familiar with the synaptics kernel module?
[09:45] <jstarcher> THX-1138, interesting
[09:45] <it2> i can acces bios
[09:45] <habeeb> But it was saying something about "couldnt read it , reboot first" or something. I'll reboot.
[09:45] <it2> srry, didn't see
[09:45] <jstarcher> THX-1138, 1.2g of 2g?
[09:45] <jstarcher> for u?
[09:45] <whyso> ah ok, trying to decide weather or not to dual boot; do the majority of newer ones?
[09:45] <it2> so i'll swap the master and slave, right?
[09:45] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  go research the history of the floppy and linux befor you start passing judgement.. and as far as i know - it DOES work fine for my system
[09:45] <pike_> habeeb: ok unplug it and replug then try the command again
[09:45] <THX-1138> whyso - The more they utilise cd copy protection or directx the less likely it will run as just point and click install. - take a peek at cedega.
[09:45] <Justy-> question: then it enables /tmp/sdablablabla and i can access there ONLY with root privilages
[09:45] <habeeb> Aw ok pike_
[09:46] <Jowi> it2: oh, but not change the boot order from there? I see.
[09:46] <whyso> ok thanks
[09:46] <baconbacon> zool2005: look into the server cd, then go from there
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  thats the problem with automounting stuff.. when it breaks - its yet anothe rlayer to troubledshoot.
[09:46] <THX-1138> jstarcher - 1.2g total.
[09:46] <jstarcher> of swap?
[09:46] <jstarcher> right
[09:46] <Justy-> question: can i access there without the help of disk manager directly
[09:46] <bluefox83> i need to know what the new name for the kernel module "Synaptics" is
[09:46] <oskude> zool2005: you could install using the server image, afaik theres no (yet) easy way to install a base system like with debian
[09:46] <zool2005> baconbacon, thanks
[09:46] <Jowi> it2: is it a fresh install of ubuntu?
[09:46] <whyso> i really wish directx was made open source :(
[09:46] <it2> jowi: yes
[09:46] <Demon012> lol so do i whyso
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  as far as i know.. you find the floppy drive icon, right click, and slect mount.
[09:46] <THX-1138> jstarcher - somethin like 200mbs used - heavy use of mysql here.
[09:46] <Demon012> SDL is a good middleground tho i suppose
[09:47] <Demon012> just gotta convince more developers to use it
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  then befor you remove the disk you right click - select unmounr
[09:47] <Justy-> hi =)
[09:47] <Justy-> question: I have a sda hdd which has a format of NTFS
[09:47] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, I only get a floppy icon when I've already mounted it, so the only option I have is to unmount it...which makes sense :p
[09:47] <oskude> zool2005: and my favorite minimal wm is "openbox" ;)
[09:47] <Justy-> question: I go to SystemAdmin.Disk manager
[09:47] <Justy-> question: then it enables /tmp/sdablablabla and i can access there ONLY with root privilages
[09:47] <habeeb> What the fuck pike_ :P now there are /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 and nothing of /dev/sda*
[09:47] <Justy-> question: can i access there without the help of disk manager directly
[09:47] <boink> !language
[09:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:47] <jstarcher> THX-1138, yeah I dunno if apache uses swap, I'd guess if it needed to it would but otherwise not...my server is just a LAN fileserver and I do have apache/mysql up but they aren't really used at all
[09:47] <zool2005> oskude: there is not internet connection, will I be able to access repositories on other ubuntu cd?
[09:47] <pike_> habeeb: thats fine
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  thers a setting for the gnome desktop to show unmounted floppies - i do belive. I dont use gnome.. so cant tell you more... I dont want ANY icons on my desktop
[09:47] <oskude> zool2005: yes
[09:48] <Jowi> it2: then I would probably try to reinstall it instead of swap the order first of all. The problem is probably this: when grub is installed it is installing itself on the MBR (master boot record) on the wrong disk. and the wrong disk is bootable in bios. wierd problem but happens.
[09:48] <pike_> habeeb: well sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[09:48] <it2> jowi: it is a fresh install, but ubuntu used the entire 80 gb hd, while i only meant to give it a 10 gb partition, so i went back to ms, deleted the partition, then partitioned it again to a 10 gb and a 70 gb partition
[09:48] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: if you change the umask to 000 you can access without super user privilages
[09:48] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, ok thanks, I'll check gconf
[09:48] <habeeb> pike_: Ok
[09:48] <pike_> habeeb: hald is waky that way
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  i dont think you got to go that extreme.. if you do.. thats showing WHY i dont use gnome..
[09:48] <habeeb> And then unplug && plug?
[09:48] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, what is umask and where can i change it from?
[09:48] <it2> ok , i'll fysicly swap the disks
[09:48] <Jowi> it2: ah, then try a reinstall. set up the partitions properly in the installation.
[09:48] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, What do you use? One of the *boxes?
[09:49] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, ow, thanks btw =)
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  i tend to use kde.
[09:49] <pike_> habeeb: might as well
[09:49] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, I didn't particularly like KDE. Just wasn't for me I guess, prefer Gnome's way of doing things
[09:49] <habeeb> ok
[09:49] <it2> ko
[09:49] <it2> ok
[09:49] <jstarcher> oskude pike_ THX-1138: well I'm outta here, I have to goto work. Thanks for the help
[09:49] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: np, open /etc/fstab and look for the line with the NTFS drive
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  of gnomes lack of ways to do things. :)
[09:49] <Jowi> it2: better another failed installation than having to re-switch again in case it doesn't work.
[09:49] <it2> man , i hope using ubuntu will be easier then installing it :p
[09:50] <oskude> jstarcher: have fun
[09:50] <habeeb> Now its only /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 pike_  :P Hide and seek?
[09:50] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  the more i used gnome.. the more i disliked it. :)  but Linux is all about Flexability
[09:50] <it2> ok
[09:50] <Jowi> it2: bad luck that's all.
[09:50] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, Well, as much as I'd agree with you at the moment (:P) it tends to be quite well behaved
[09:50] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, I couldn't see.. would you like me to pastebin it?
[09:51] <kupesoft> Why did breezy upgrade firefox to 1.5.0.7?
[09:51] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: if it isnt there your gonna have to add it
[09:51] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, Each to his own I guess. I used fluxbox for a while, got bored of that pretty quickly :p
[09:51] <it2> jowi: i've gotten a headacke after trying to install it the entire afternoon, must be my lack of knowledge :)
[09:51] <Jowi> it2: use ext3 for the linux partition
[09:51] <sharky-> woo ubuntu!!!
[09:51] <Jowi> it2: and install grub on MBR
[09:51] <Lard-O-Lad> better yet...
[09:51] <Lard-O-Lad> !ntfs-3g > Justy-
[09:51] <vanisher> !snort
[09:51] <kupesoft> Why did breezy upgrade firefox to 1.5.0.7??
[09:51] <Zaggynl> hmm what does Ubuntu default to? I just clicked next a lot
[09:51] <habeeb> Should I do the same for /dev/sda1 pike_ ? :/
[09:51] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 347 kB, installed size 824 kB
[09:52] <vanisher> !exim
[09:52] <ubotu> exim: An MTA (Mail Transport Agent). In component universe, is extra. Version 3.36-18ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 758 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[09:52] <it2> jowi: can i install ubuntu on a hd wich has also a ms data partition on it?
[09:52] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, http://pastebin.com/800250
[09:52] <oskude> Zaggynl: default what ?
[09:53] <Jowi> it2: believe me, it is bad luck. I managed to screw up to have error 17 once (my own fault). yes you can absolutely install on the same disk
[09:53] <Zaggynl> oskude, the file system, does it use ext2 by default?
[09:53] <oskude> Zaggynl: ext3
[09:53] <it2> jowi: ok, thx man
[09:53] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[09:53] <cipher_nemo> For ubuntu 6.06 dapper install CD, is there a quicker way to install than selecting Start/Install... I noticed a command line you can enter a command?
[09:53] <pike_> habeeb: is it working again?
[09:54] <adam0509> hi
[09:54] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: did you get a PM from ubotu?
[09:54] <zool2005> oskude: I'd considered installing Arch linux but there is little support and all my questions went unanswered on IRC so I'll try installing my trusted Ubuntu!
[09:54] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:54] <it2> jowi: earlier today ubuntu erased my entire win data hd and dleted all partitions i made in windows, can you guide me thrue the install?
[09:54] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, it tells me to have Fuse installed
[09:54] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, yes
[09:54] <habeeb> No, endless splash screen still, pike_ . But the /dev/sdb became /dev/sda again..
[09:54] <CVirus> how can I update a single package using apt ?
[09:55] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:55] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:55] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:55] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:55] <adam0509> thx.
[09:55] <oskude> cipher_nemo: sudo apt-get install programname
[09:55] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, can you inform me about it ? please
[09:55] <graveson> i am trying to install a tvr/dvb type device,can someone please tell me what this is : snd_rawmidi
[09:55] <cipher_nemo> oskude: so I'd want to do what for programname to get full ubuntu?
[09:55] <CVirus> adam0509: is that a proper way to ask a question ?
[09:55] <Jowi> it2: very difficult to guide over IRC (and I work tomorrow). If it erased all your win data you did make something wrong in the setup for sure.
[09:55] <it2> jowi: what is best, install ubuntu on the entire 80 gig hd , then repartition the hd in ubuntu, or create a partition while installing?
[09:56] <adam0509> no one answer me in several channel...
[09:56] <adam0509> beginning to being annoyed...
[09:56] <oskude> cipher_nemo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:56] <Zaggynl> adam0509, spamming doesn't help either
[09:56] <it2> jowi: i'm sure it's my fault:p
[09:56] <suff0kate> whats the command to edit a text in terminal i forget sudo something
[09:56] <adam0509> I Knowh ><
[09:56] <CVirus> adam0509: ask your ISP
[09:56] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: well NTFS is proprietary to microsoft, for a while now linux users have been trying to read and write from NTFS partition.  NTFS-3G is by far the best implementation.  (however it is still in beta, not to be used in "production" machines)
[09:56] <Zaggynl> adam0509, the site is in french for you?
[09:56] <adam0509> is the wiki.ubuntu.com the officiel wiki ?
[09:56] <cipher_nemo> oskude: k, thx... have you done this before on a new install instead of letting it boot to gnome/x?
[09:56] <it2> jowi: installer is not very clear if you're a win user for like 12 yrs
[09:56] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g
[09:57] <THX-1138> suff0kate: edit with root priv? sudo gedit or nan or even ed  OMG!
[09:57] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, hmmm
[09:57] <adam0509> that page only (I'm french by the way, so its a ISP script h4x something ?)
[09:57] <Jowi> it2: create partitions during setup is easier. for example partition1: / (root) 6GB ext3, partition 2: swap 1GB, partition 3: /home 30GB ext3
[09:57] <kupesoft> Why did breezy upgrade firefox to 1.5.0.7??
[09:57] <suff0kate> how do i edit a text that only read only in terminal
[09:57] <suff0kate> ?
[09:57] <THX-1138> s/nan/nano/g
[09:57] <oskude> cipher_nemo: no, as the desktop (alternate) cd installs that automaticly
[09:57] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: if you just want to read from a NTFS partition, then the default NTFS drivers will do
[09:57] <suff0kate> nano kk ty
[09:57] <habeeb> btw pike_ just for the history of this thing... Why am I getting a folder with the mp3 in my "computer" directory even tho its not mounted?
[09:58] <cipher_nemo> oskude: ok... I;ll try to install the ubuntu-desktop and see if it works :) thx again
[09:58] <it2> jowi: wich partition will be my win data partition then?
[09:58] <CVirus> how can I update a single package using apt ?
[09:58] <it2> jowi: i still wonna use 70 gig for win u see
[09:58] <Jowi> it2: does not matter which one it is. can make it as number 1, 2, 3 or 4. linux make no difference where it is
[09:59] <it2> jowi: so i want to make 70 gig ntfs, 1 gig fat32 for swapping between ubuntu and win, and 9 gig for ubuntu itself
[09:59] <pike_> habeeb: well at least you still have a sweet thumbdrive :)
[09:59] <Llewxam> amazing.. changed kernels and it works.... backing my stuff up now for a format and reinstall... as much as i'd hate to do it.
[09:59] <oskude> adam0509: bad that theres not even an option to select the desired languange for that site...
[09:59] <habeeb> No pike_
[09:59] <habeeb> I cant store things inside..
[09:59] <Jowi> it2: swap is not fat32. and you can not use it for both win and linux
[09:59] <THX-1138> it2 - A Fat32 partition can be useful for files to be seen in linux and windows.
[09:59] <adam0509> I want to see the english Wiki... but I ddon't find how !!!!!!!!!
[10:00] <habeeb> Well, I'm so going to that store tomorrow and saying that my bad unclie tried to apply some songs and plugged it off before he rejected the device.. :(
[10:00] <Jowi> it2: you can make 70GB ntfs, 9 gig ext3 and 1gb swap (for linux)
[10:00] <it2> jowi: ok
[10:00] <oskude> adam0509: hmm, but i dont get it as german, even that im in germany...
[10:00] <it2> jowi: thx dude
[10:00] <TyggerBob> Jowi, I don't think me meant that as a swap drive..
[10:00] <adam0509> :|
[10:00] <Jowi> it2: no probs
[10:00] <TyggerBob> I think he meant as a "transfer" drive
[10:00] <TyggerBob> that's what I do as well.
[10:01] <adam0509> erh.... is that "thing" the official wiki => https://help.ubuntu.com/community ???
[10:01] <zerberus_> hi!
[10:01] <Jowi> TyggerBob: ah, yeah. you might be right. that's what you meant it2?
[10:01] <TyggerBob> one that's writable from both the Ubuntu and Windows
[10:01] <oskude> adam0509: "wiki" is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[10:01] <earthian> nn all
[10:02] <ryan__> what could cause this error:      There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The Settings Daemon restarted too many times. The last error message was: System exception: IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred.GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in
[10:02] <it2> jowi: should i resize the hd?
[10:02] <adam0509> okay...
[10:02] <TyggerBob> but it2, you will still need an actual _swap_ partition formated as swap for Ubuntu.
[10:02] <zerberus_> Anyone ever had the problem that the Kernel freezes at startup if a USB-Hub is connected?
[10:02] <adam0509> I think i'm gonna add very much text for it....
[10:02] <Centaur5> If an Averatec laptop crashes when it tries to boot the install cd in text or live cd mode is it going to be impossible to put it on?
[10:02] <it2> ok
[10:02] <Jowi> it2: if that was what you meant, 1: ntfs 69 gb, 2: ext3 9 gb, 3: fat32 1gb, 4: swap 1gb
[10:02] <it2> then i'll make 4 partitions
[10:02] <adam0509> It's a huge holed wiki.... oskude don't you think so ?
[10:03] <it2> jowi: that is what i mean yes
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> Centaur5: define 'crash'
[10:03] <oskude> adam0509: huge holed ?
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> how simple would it be to change the gnome splash screen
[10:03] <adam0509> the french wiki must be above 4 or 5 more bigger !
[10:03] <Jowi> it2: if you will wipe the hdd anyway there's no need to resize it. remember you can only have 4 primary partitions.
[10:03] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: It does a kernel init error
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: system > preferences > splash screen
[10:03] <TyggerBob> I'd make the fat32 drive even a bit bigger.. I'm finding that 1G wasn't enough.. depending whether your actually leaving stuff there...
[10:04] <it2> ok
[10:04] <H080J03> ok i have just purchesed a usb bluetooth dongle, i would like to scan for some devices useing it, how would i go about doing this
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: it aint there
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> what?
[10:04] <Tokenbad> I need someone to help me with a drive problem
[10:04] <cberlo> where would I look for information about an Edgy LTSP install that doesn't allow logins through LDM?
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> Centaur5: anything before the error that you see on the screen?
[10:04] <TyggerBob> H080J03, try hcitool hci0 scan
[10:04] <TyggerBob> I think..
[10:04] <cberlo> (and/or any additional docs to take advantage of the new local devices features and local printing...)
[10:04] <pike_> H080J03: i think youll need bluez-utils package
[10:04] <it2> jowi: can i install in english and change the language latr to dutch? i wonna do this cause now i have to translate each step..
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> cberlo: #ubuntu+1 is a good place to start
[10:05] <pike_> H080J03: too
[10:05] <Jowi> it2: yes
[10:05] <Centaur5> TyggerBob: Can you let me know how to issue the command when I can't get into the live cd?
[10:05] <it2> ok, thx
[10:05] <TyggerBob> Centaur5, which command?
[10:05] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to change the gnome splash screen
[10:05] <graveson> can someone please help. i am installing a tv device(similar to a dvb) .when i plug in the usb cable some modules are loaded-noticed via lsmod ,but i see nothing hwhen doing lspci .what does this mean
[10:06] <cberlo> fyrestrtr: Thanks.
[10:06] <Jowi> !usplash
[10:06] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:06] <axa-axa> Hi
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: use the gconf editor
[10:06] <kitche> graveson: lspci is for pci slots
[10:06] <H080J03> TyggerBob, nothing happened
[10:06] <trappist> graveson: lspci doesn't list usb devices - you want lsusb :)
[10:06] <adam0509> the french wiki must be above 4 or 5 more bigger ! oskude
[10:06] <TyggerBob> H080J03, are there any discoverable BT devices nearby?
[10:06] <oskude> adam0509: cant compute!
[10:06] <axa-axa> Since dapper drake 6.06 is LTS (Long Term Support) does that mean that last Gnome version will also be available for dapper drake?
[10:07] <H080J03> i don't think so, i need to buy some batteirs for my mouse
[10:07] <rellis> Anyone ever hear of sound working fine in Ubuntu, but you can hear no sound from flash videos in Firefox?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> axa-axa: no.
[10:07] <Tokenbad> I have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is
[10:07] <trappist> rellis: yes, check out the RestrictedFormats wiki page.  it tells you how to fix it.
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> rellis: very common problem, its in the wiki under RestrictedFormats
[10:07] <axa-axa> fyrestrtr: than what does LTS mean?
[10:07] <trappist> axa-axa: Long Term Support
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> axa-axa: means its supported for longer than the other releases, not that it will update to the latest and greatest.
[10:07] <james___> hello, i'm having a strange problem with my dapper system
[10:08] <TyggerBob> H080J03, I'm pretty sure that if there's nothing to report, it won't report them.
[10:08] <rellis> trappist, fyrestrtr: Thanks.
[10:08] <trappist> axa-axa: security fixes and bugfixes will be backported to dapper for 5 years
[10:08] <TyggerBob> H080J03, most devices require some action to get them to be discoverable.. like holding a button down or something.
[10:08] <axa-axa> thanks
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> H080J03: install the gnome blutooth package, and do a search from gnome.
[10:08] <ed_> i have a mount problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25685/   why does mount report that the drive is mounted or busy?
[10:08] <oskude> trappist: backporting is something else than fixing bugs and security updates
[10:09] <james___> i seem to be receiving about 3 messages a second about hid-core.c having it's controller-queue fill
[10:09] <james___> full*
[10:09] <H080J03> alrighty then
[10:09] <THX-1138> james_ hid = human interface device?
[10:09] <james___> yeah
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> THX-1138: yes
[10:09] <james___> i guess so
[10:09] <trappist> oskude: sometimes they backport hole packages.  but for stable releases, they take patches that fix individual bugs or security issues and backport them to already-released versions.  it's still a backport.
[10:09] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init
[10:10] <trappist> s/hole/whole/
[10:10] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: Do you want the long code before that?
[10:10] <CONDE> Did somebody knows how to enter in a computer from linux ubuntu?
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> Centaur5: yes
[10:10] <ryan__> should the user own the contants of the home folder or should root
[10:10] <THX-1138> james_ - ah. - i didn't know.
[10:10] <TyggerBob> CONDE, whatcha trying to do?
[10:10] <ed_> CONDE, use telnet :P
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> ryan__: user, if root does, then the user can't write.
[10:10] <mitsuhhobo> ooer
[10:10] <it2> so, now i created 3 new partitions, can i make my 69 gig ntfs again later in ms?
[10:10] <oskude> trappist: but you dont need the backport repo for that...
[10:10] <CONDE> ubuntu has a telnet?
[10:10] <james___> the tail of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25686/
[10:10] <kitche> ryan__: the user should own their own folder but /home should be owned by root
[10:10] <edgy> ed_: : try umount /dev/hdb
[10:10] <ed_> CONDE, if you're crazy enough to install it
[10:10] <H080J03> TyggerBob, how do i know hcitool is useing my dongle?
[10:10] <trappist> oskude: no, the backport repo is for backported packages.
[10:11] <graveson> thanks guys
[10:11] <sharperguy> CONDE, yes ubuntu has telnet
[10:11] <ed_> edgy, that doesnt work. output is shown in the paste
[10:11] <TyggerBob> H080J03, do a dmesg | grep hci
[10:11] <edgy> ed_: no you tried something else ;)
[10:11] <ed_> edgy, partition is not mounted
[10:11] <CONDE> did some of you have a tutorial of how to do it?
[10:11] <TyggerBob> to see if it's creating the device.
[10:11] <oskude> trappist: but you dont need backport repo to get bug and security updates for dapper lts...
[10:11] <graveson> so if my device is not listed -that means it is not being detected.how do i go about troubleshooting this
[10:11] <ed_> edgy, partition is not mounted umount: /dev/hdb: not mounted
[10:11] <TyggerBob> should see something like hci0 in there somewhere.
[10:11] <trappist> oskude: correct
[10:11] <TyggerBob> then try hciconfig
[10:11] <edgy> ed_: hdb not hdb1
[10:11] <ed_> edgy, neither are mounted in /proc/mounts !
[10:12] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: [17179573.372000]  Code: 74 06 88 81 60 59 38 c0 c3 25 ff 00 00 00 c3 8b 15 24 b0 88 04 4d f5 2f c0 eb 80 b8 e4 ff ff ff c3 8d b4 26 00 00
[10:12] <edgy> ed_: can you paste sudo fdisk -l?
[10:13] <it2> oh ow, i still don't understan..
[10:13] <ed_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25687/
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> how should I launch "gconf editor" as there is no way of doing it in the gui as it is not there
[10:13] <it2> so: step 5 i manualy edit partition table, right?
[10:13] <CONDE> did somebody speak spanish?
[10:14] <it2> then i slect my 80 gig drive
[10:14] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: gconf-editor
[10:14] <it2> and right click it, select the new button right?
[10:14] <THX-1138> TyggerBob - hcitool - nice tip. :)
[10:14] <qatsi> ok, im having some troubble with my network card....i did a fresh install in my desktop, and the network card isnt supported, now i know how to install it, but the thing is that i need the latest kernel sources, kernel headers, the make package and various gcc things...is there a way to download them, transfer and install it without network connection ? thnk you :)
[10:14] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: is that "gksudo" or "sudo" or is it typed in an application launcer
[10:15] <salim> I can open .3gp movie files from my sonyericsson with vlc and mplayer, but in both, there is no sound!
[10:15] <jiphex> can someone have a quick look at my syslog and tell me what's causing this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25686/ (hid-core.c contol queue full)
[10:15] <salim> can anybody help me
[10:15] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: if you need sudo for graphical tools, use "gksudo"
[10:15] <THX-1138> How do you enable the mount command from the live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.
[10:16] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: yeah, lol....but which is it for gconf-editor
[10:16] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: hopeless?
[10:16] <H080J03> TyggerBob, ok i have my bluetooth enabled phone now, it has bluetooth turned on
[10:16] <Subhuman> salim, i get the same problem.
[10:16] <H080J03> and the scan shows nothing
[10:16] <edgy> ed_: did you try to specify the fs type in the mount?
[10:16] <ryan__> at login after i enter my password i get this error: $home/.dmrc is being ignored. user must be owner.........but the user is the owner of everything in the home folder ...anyideas
[10:16] <CONDE> In telnet when i put open what i have to put the ip addres or some page?
[10:16] <ed_> edgy, yes i treid that previously
[10:16] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: do you need sudo rights for that ?
[10:16] <salim> subhuman: and no solution yet?
[10:17] <TyggerBob> H080J03, the phone will only been seen if it's set as discoverable. my Razor has discoverability turned off by default.. I can enable it for 30 sec in the menu
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: this is a single user comp, just me and root after install
[10:17] <graveson> if a usb  device is not listed by the lsusb command (however it has an id) -that means it is not being detected.how do i go about troubleshooting this
[10:17] <CONDE> Hey who can help me
[10:17] <ed_> edgy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25688/
[10:17] <H080J03> TyggerBob, i took out the hci0 form the command, it worked
[10:17] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: i can run gconf-editor without sudo rights... but dunno if it needs one...
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[10:18] <TyggerBob> Ahh..
[10:18] <TyggerBob> sorry about that..
[10:18] <edgy> jiphex: I also have the exact same problem. It's related to usb but don't know how to solve it. if some one helped you tell me please
[10:18] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: sorted, nice one
[10:18] <TyggerBob> I don't have my dongle attached right now, so I couldn't try it.
[10:18] <edgy> ed_: is it xfs really?!
[10:18] <CONDE> Did somebody knows how to hacl a computer from ubuntu?
[10:18] <ed_> edgy, yes
[10:19] <heanol_> can i boot up my installed system from the installation cd_
[10:19] <heanol_> ?
[10:19] <edgy> ed_: does it contain any data?
[10:19] <ed_> edgy, yes
[10:19] <kitche> heanol_: yea you have to specify root=
[10:19] <TyggerBob> CONDE, not sure what you're trying to do..
[10:19] <jiphex> edgy: i know its something to do with usb, i guess its more specifically to do with kb/mouse as its a hid error
[10:19] <TyggerBob> is it yours?
[10:19] <ed_> edgy, i don't think wiping it would help, some reason mount thinks it's busy/mounted
[10:19] <heanol_> kitche, ok.. so press f6 and change the root to point to my installed partition_
[10:19] <heanol_> ?
[10:20] <kitche> heanol_: yeah that should boot your isntaleld system
[10:20] <heanol_> ok
[10:20] <heanol_> brb, test
[10:20] <heanol_> thanks
[10:20] <heanol_> :-)
[10:20] <CONDE> i want to enter in a computer
[10:20] <CONDE> to see files
[10:20] <TyggerBob> CONDE, who's computer?
[10:20] <TyggerBob> whose, even
[10:21] <CONDE> A them guy who steal files from my computer
[10:21] <Ackeubu_> hwy how do i check if opengl is supported by my video card?
[10:21] <CONDE> it supouse it is my friend
[10:21] <Byan> Ackeubu_: what's your card?
[10:21] <THX-1138> CONDE "ls" list fikes from the command line? see also cd = change directory and cp = copy
[10:21] <edgy> ed_: as a last resort did you try to reboot?
[10:21] <oskude> CONDE: omg ? someone is stealing files from your computer ? how does he/she do that ?
[10:21] <TyggerBob> then sorry.. I can't help you. If it was your computer.. that's one thing..
[10:21] <Ackeubu_> Byan Ati
[10:22] <ed_> edgy, yes, several boots since
[10:22] <CONDE> i don't know
[10:22] <Byan> you wanna be more specific...?
[10:22] <Byan> but really anything made by ATI in the last 10 years is gonna have OpenGL on it
[10:22] <oskude> CONDE: how do you know he/she is stealing your files ?
[10:22] <CONDE> but she show me files in the school i only have
[10:22] <Rahsputin> Hi !  i am using WinXP inside VMware server... having trouble with ? USB 2 ? anyone here expirience with VMware.... allready tried in #vmware,wiki, and google we can meet in #vmware
[10:22] <edgy> ed_: my guess is either a kernel problem ( and you can try to an old kernel) or a really defective usb port
[10:22] <salim> I want to install realplayer (through synaptic) but it says xlibs is not insalled
[10:23] <kevin> hey
[10:23] <ed_> edgy, it's PATA, it was ok when i was using debian a few days ago
[10:23] <Ackeubu_> Byan, it has. but i installed some updates and now i think its not working properly but is running on mesa....
[10:23] <edgy> ed_: I never formatted something as xfs before so I can't tell how it's different but the error message give me the impression not to try it at all ;)
[10:23] <Ackeubu_> GL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:23] <harrism> Hi everyone, a guy I knows keeps putting ubuntu down and it's really starting to get annoying. He is a fedora fan and says ubuntu stole fedoras theme and never gave them any credit. I don't know if this is true or not because I have yet to try fedora core. However, if this is true can anyone point me to some ubuntu credits page or something? To shut him up basically?
[10:24] <edgy> ed_: so if you boot from a livecd would it work?
[10:24] <Subhuman> harrism, ubuntu uses a brown theme, no other distro uses brown....
[10:24] <ed_> edgy, i can't think what kernel problem it could be, i have two identical drives, so it's not hardware compatibility, and xfs is built as a kernel driver. xfs is good, i think this is a problem with mount utils
[10:24] <CONDE> can i use telnet to enter in a computer???
[10:24] <baconbacon> harrism: tell him "huh, welcome to free software"
[10:24] <ed_> edgy, i would expect so
[10:24] <Subhuman> CONDE, if they are running a telnet server. yes, but i suggest you to use ssh over telnet
[10:24] <Subhuman> !ssh
[10:24] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:24] <harrism> baconbacon, yeah
[10:24] <harrism> well, he said took fedoras look and made it brown
[10:25] <mitsuhhobo> I think Im gonna reinstall ubuntu
[10:25] <edgy> ed_: sorry that kernel message is not for you it's for jiphex
[10:25] <harrism> I think ubuntu is great, I have nothing against it really
[10:25] <oskude> harrism: let him first show the fedore(tm?) theme ?
[10:25] <edgy> jiphex: my guess is either a kernel problem ( and you can try to an old kernel) or a really defective usb port
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> the gnome splashscreen that I downloaded is a .svgz when I click it the timer on the mouse icon sarts then stops and nothing loads....can i use this file in its current format as the splash
[10:25] <THX-1138> harrism - lol - let him fight with thte fedora packaging system and dependency hell. - you can use the time for something productive.
[10:25] <CONDE> i have to open ssh?
[10:25] <CONDE> and then what ia have to do?
[10:25] <mitsuhhobo> this instal doesn't love me anymore
[10:25] <CONDE> find the ip?
[10:26] <harrism> thx-1138, yeah ha, that was the only thing he gave ubuntu credit for.. but then said "wait until fc6"
[10:26] <TyggerBob> take care all..
[10:27] <TyggerBob> have a good evening
[10:27] <jiphex> edgy: yeah, i guess i'll try that, have to wait till im actually at the computer (ssh'ing at the moment). I dont like rebooting remotely ;-)
[10:27] <THX-1138> TyggerBob - Awsome. - thank you for the tips
[10:27] <baconbacon> harrism: well ok, i might reconsider if fc6 gets better, but for the time i use what's best.
[10:27] <ryan__> durring login i get the error: User's $Home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the defalt session and language from being saved. File should be owned by userand have 644 premissions. Users home directory must be owned by users and not writable by other users.
[10:28] <ryan__> how do i go about fixing this
[10:28] <edgy> ed_: if it worked from a livecd or another system may be you can compare the mount utils version and may be you find one version has that problem
[10:28] <theguy> im having a problem
[10:28] <theguy> i wonder if someone can help
[10:28] <ryan__> and/or where do i find the 1st file the change the premissions
[10:28] <harrism> yeah, I don't really have anything against any disto I try however I didn't like freespire so much. I just can't understand how he could bash ubuntu so much. It does its job and well. I never had a problem with it. I would not mind trying fc6 either for that matter.
[10:28] <ed_> edgy, thanks for the help
[10:28] <oskude> ryan__: chown changes the user/group of a file, and chmod the rights
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys the gnome splashscreen that I downloaded is a .svgz when I click it the timer on the mouse icon sarts then stops and nothing loads....can i use this file in its current format as the gnome splash screen through gconf-editor
[10:29] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: and you think you can install splash screens by doubleclicking them ?
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: no
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> wanted to view it
[10:29] <redguy> hi, I am trying to read a webpage which uses <font face="Symbol"> in konqueror. The fonts aren't diplayed properly though. Any hints on making this work?
[10:29] <theguy> basically im trying to install codecs but it says i dont have permission to write to my folders
[10:30] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: give me a link, ill try
[10:30] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[10:30] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: means it should work
[10:30] <edgy> ed_: did you see this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84174-p-2.html
[10:30] <oskude> redguy: afaik font html tag is "dead" should use css instead...
[10:30] <Moriae> Hello.
[10:31] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: Snowish Splash is the one http://www.gnome-look.org/
[10:31] <redguy> oskude: heh, I know that. Supposedly the makers of the webpage didn't
[10:31] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: btw, i put it in my home dir in ".custom_splash" is this ok
[10:31] <codezero> hello i have a question on my ubuntu dapper drake samba complains about some links...when i do apt-get to install a new application everytime i get a warning about samba and it is annoying
[10:31] <redguy> oskude: and actually, font tags do still work
[10:32] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: no idea, i never install splash screens
[10:32] <codezero> how can i get rid of this problem?
[10:32] <redguy> oskude: so the tag itself isn't the problem. the problem are the fonts
[10:32] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: why not
[10:32] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: sorry, ment installed
[10:32] <idefix_> who is lilo?
[10:33] <vanisher> idefix_: a bootloader
[10:33] <oskude> redguy: could be
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> what do I type in a terminal to see the full directory path to where i am
[10:34] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: pwd
[10:34] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[10:34] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: ok, i can open it in gnome image viewer neither, but inkscape opens it
[10:34] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: *cant
[10:35] <ltR20> how come i cant install XGL?
[10:35] <Paddy_EIRE> oh i see "svgz
[10:35] <Paddy_EIRE> be right back
[10:35] <zool2005> i've just installed ubuntu server edition and want to install XFCE, how can I add XUBUNTU cd to repositories from command line? I don't have an internet connection
[10:35] <THX-1138> ltR20 !XGL
[10:35] <THX-1138> #ubuntu-xgl
[10:36] <DivineAnt> !codecs
[10:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:36] <pike_> zool2005: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the comment # infront of any urls and then ctrl-o or x to write changes and then sudo apt-get udpate
[10:36] <oskude> zool2005: apt-cdrom could help (never used) but try reading "man apt-cdrom"
[10:36] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: no it didnt work although its now using the "gnome 2.14" splash???
[10:37] <Volstrup> anyone who knows how to get the mldonkey-server installation up'n'running? I've tried on two different machines and the installation just won't finish. Afterwards I can't even run dpkg-reconfigure mldonkey-server
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: use apt-cdrom, something like apt-cdrom /dev/something add
[10:37] <pike_> zool2005: lol nm
[10:37] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: what ever "it" is...
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: the splash screen
[10:37] <hoody> hi there! i got trouble with the ndiswrapper... can anybody help me with this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25689/
[10:38] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: i ment with "it" the way you tried to install it...
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: please tell me what you mean exactly by splash screen. The screen that loads up on system start, the screen where you type your username password, or the little thing that pops up with the icons that show gnome initializing.
[10:38] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: gnome splash screen
[10:38] <mirak> does dapper versions have the nvidia new driver that supports AIGLX ?
[10:38] <Ackeubu_> hey anyone knows a nice howto on how to back up to a previous version of a package?
[10:39] <Rokue> Hello, I cant get my ubuntu updated..
[10:39] <Rokue> "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_5.93-5ubuntu4_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2"
[10:39] <Rokue> That pops up
[10:39] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: as in the one that makes a soft jingle when its loading things like nautilus and update notifier
[10:39] <Russel> hiho
[10:40] <Zaggynl> hohi
[10:40] <Russel> if i am in a tty, i have ad bad resolution and such things, is there a guide for it?
[10:41] <qatsi> ok, i need the make command, i would normally do apt-get install make, but i dont have internet on the computer i need that, is there a way to copy tha package and install it ?, it must be a .deb file, but i dont know where to find it....can you help me? thank you
[10:41] <ryan__> after start up i get the error: There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.........how do i go about fixing this
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> Russel: yes, the framebuffer howto in the wiki
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> !framebuffer > Russel
[10:43] <Russel> thx fyrestrtr
[10:43] <Rokue> Trying to update ubuntu and this pops up.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25690/
[10:43] <Zaggynl> ah yes, that it was, framebuffer
[10:43] <aldarsior> Hello, I installed the Mantis Bug Tracker on my ubuntu server on Apache2. When I try to access it, my browser asks me if I would like to save the file "index.php" and it does not render. I have fixed the apache configuration (uncommented the content type lines in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf) and restarted apache (/etc/init.d/apache2 restart) but it still does the same thing.
[10:43] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: what is the default directory where the default splash screen is stored
[10:43] <pridkett> is there a way to make apt stop complaining about missing a file?  for example, I compiled a package from source and removed the ubuntu version, but now apt complains.   Any ideas?
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: use the gconf editor to find out.
[10:44] <kitche> aldarsior: you setup apache2 to use php? since that's the problem your having
[10:44] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: it aint givin me the info
[10:44] <aldarsior> kitche: I mean, how?
[10:44] <kitche> !LAMP > aldarsior
[10:44] <aldarsior> kitche: I uncommented this line in the apache2 config file: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[10:44] <pridkett> i know I can use dpkg-divert for single files, but I want to know how to make the system quit complaining about a dependency.  (i.e. how to have ubuntu-desktop not complain about missing f-spot)
[10:45] <kitche> that should help you out it aldarsior
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> pridkett: are you on dapper?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> because it sounds like you are complaining about edgy.
[10:45] <codezero> aldarsior, that should help you if you have php5 or any other php package installed
[10:45] <edgy> ed_
[10:46] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know the default directory where the ubuntu splash screen is stored (the splash you get upon login
[10:46] <kitche> Paddy_EIRE: it depends what window manager you use really but it's where the window manager directories are
[10:46] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: gnome
[10:46] <pridkett> fyrestrtr: it's a general question -- I'm on edgy, but the problem equally applies to dapper (not for the same packages of course)
[10:46] <zugu> hi all
[10:46] <matteo> good evening
[10:47] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash maybe
[10:47] <aldarsior> codezero: thanks a bunch
[10:47] <qatsi> ok, this is stupid, i downloaded the make package, and to install it, i need to execute the make command, which i dont have, thats why i want to install it...is there a workaround?
[10:47] <aldarsior> codezero: it's actually a php4 package, but it's beyond me as to why it doesn't require or recommend mod-php4
[10:47] <zool2005> i've added ubuntu cds to repositories using apt-cdrom add but apt-get install xfce fails saying couldn't find package. I'm a bit stuck!
[10:47] <aldarsior> kitche: thanks a bunch
[10:47] <Paddy_EIRE> pike_: nice shot, spot on :)
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> pridkett: first, please ask edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 as it may be a known issue.
[10:48] <matteo> i want to install the latest nvidia beta driver but i can't find the package nvidia-kernel-1.0.9625
[10:48] <deltab> qatsi: you'll need to install an executable version, e.g. with apt-get install make
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> !info xfce
[10:48] <ubotu> Package xfce does not exist in any distro I know
[10:48] <kitche> aldarsior: I use LAMP myself since it's just plain easier
[10:48] <kitche> !info xfce4
[10:48] <zugu> is there any way for me to have only one instance of VLC running at any time? so that if I double click a video file, while another one is running in VLC, the already running one will close and the other will play instead
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: there is your answer, there is no xfce package :)
[10:48] <ubotu> xfce4: Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:48] <aldarsior> LAMP what?
[10:48] <pridkett> fyrestrtr: it's not a bug thought, it's an apt-get usage issue
[10:48] <kitche> there you go fyrestrtr
[10:48] <zool2005> fyrestrtr : why do I have it on my desktop install then?
[10:48] <qatsi> deltab: the thing is dont have internet, so i need the .deb file :s but i cant find it :s
[10:49] <aldarsior> kitche: I need a bug tracker not a development environment
[10:49] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.
[10:49] <kitche> aldarsior it just installs and setups everything to work nicely with each other by default LAMP is linux apache mysql and php is what it stands for
[10:49] <pridkett> I could have just as easily said "I compiled my own version of gstreamer and now rhythmbox complains about an unsatisfied dependency"
[10:49] <zool2005> fyrestrtr: i need a lightweight WM for a 400MHz laptop!
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: you don't want xfce then.
[10:50] <qatsi> fluxbox ?
[10:50] <codezero> aldarsior, be sure that you have also libapache2-mod-php4 package
[10:50] <baconbacon> xfce, fluxbox or icewm for ultra lightweight and featureless
[10:50] <Rokue> fyrestrtr: I'm trying to update and this pops up.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25690/
[10:50] <deltab> qatsi: do you have a CD with it on?
[10:50] <codezero> and you have also enabled apache2 extension for php
[10:51] <Russel> hiho
[10:51] <qatsi> deltab: yes i do, is it there ?
[10:51] <ltR20> whats better
[10:51] <ltR20> veryl?
[10:51] <zool2005> baconbacon: apt-get install can't find any of those packages apparently!
[10:51] <ltR20> or compiz?
[10:51] <codezero> aldarsior, when you do install libapache2-mod-php4 package
[10:51] <ltR20> beryl*
[10:51] <Russel> i tried this vga option, but now the refresh frequenzy is to low and the screen doesn't fit
[10:51] <Russel> something i missed?
[10:51] <kitche> ltR20: their the samething but one is going a different direction then the other
[10:51] <codezero> actually it creates a symlink on /etc/apache2/mods-enabled directory to enable php4 on apache
[10:52] <aldarsior> codezero: that's what I meant
[10:52] <baconbacon> xfce is xubuntu-desktop, but i don't know(remember) how to install fluxbox
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: apt-get install xfce4
[10:52] <qatsi> deltab: ok, now i installed it :) thank you very much for your help :)
[10:52] <apeman2020> hello all
[10:52] <deltab> qatsi: heh, you're welcome
[10:52] <pike_> fluxbox and xinit very lightweight
[10:52] <aldarsior> codezero: this package should really recommend apache or apache2 and the appropriate php mods
[10:52] <zool2005> fyrestrtr:  I've installed from server version and now I need to install lightweight X without internet connection
[10:53] <uglyfl0w> Hi. I've got a question, tried ubuntu today by booting a live cd (or whatever it's called). When I got to the desktop the highest resolution would only be 1024x768 which isn't what my wide-tft like, and I tried to change it, but I couldn't make that choise. Am i able to change that or isn't it supported for some reason?
[10:53] <Russel> it was all really easy to set up in gentoo
[10:53] <apeman2020>     /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off..... why?
[10:53] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.
[10:53] <pike_> !resolution > uglyfl0w
[10:54] <uglyfl0w> pike_, thank you.
[10:55] <deltab> !resolution
[10:55] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:55] <apeman2020>  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off..... why?
[10:55] <idefix_> what did peer do man?
[10:56] <Russel> deltab: if you mean me, i mean refreshrate in framebuffer
[10:56] <B1zz> geez
[10:56] <slop> wtf
[10:56] <B1zz> what with these guys
[10:56] <gnomefreak> holy crap
[10:56] <thread> wtf
[10:56] <thread> wtf wtf
[10:56] <mortal5> I have a question, I have some programs (such as gstreamer) that I want to remove from ubuntu, but it says that ubuntu-desktop depends upon it.  It looks like if i uninstall gstreamer, it will uninstall the entire desktop
[10:56] <fsancho> hi all
[10:56] <slop> ADMIN!
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops
[10:57] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:57] <fsancho> i'm using dapper
[10:57] <Rez> slop: we're here.
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: right here
[10:57] <slop> Rez, k :)
[10:57] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, ?
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry
[10:57] <Lunar_Lamp> i think it's been sorted now
[10:57] <ompaul> they are gon
[10:57] <kitche> someone did DCC
[10:57] <ompaul> Seveas, it is done
[10:57] <pike_> mortal5: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage go ahead and let it remove
[10:57] <Seveas> ah
[10:57] <fsancho> i wan to use wammu or kmobiletools with bluetooth
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Several times
[10:57] <Lemino> i have som trouble with the character-encoding in centericq.
[10:57] <fsancho> but i cant find /dev/rfcomm0
[10:57] <slop> Rez, i just got DCC attacked :P
[10:57] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, do NOT!!! call !ops for DCC exploiters
[10:57] <fsancho> i have a usb bluetooth dongle
[10:57] <Rokue> I'm trying to update and this pops up.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25690/
[10:57] <Seveas> they are automatically K-lined
[10:57] <THX-1138> Hello Seveas.
[10:57] <fsancho> with gnome-bluetooth works ok
[10:57] <fsancho> i can send files
[10:58] <gnomefreak> i didnt see the kline
[10:58] <Lemino> no matter what I try I don't seem to be able to get swedish letters.
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks, didnt know. but after 6 or 7 times I wasnt sure
[10:58] <fsancho> but kmobiletools and wammu needs a device
[10:58] <Lemino> (diacritical)
[10:58] <fsancho> but i can't find any bluetooth device
[10:58] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: i was here they were pinging the crap out of me
[10:58] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.
[10:58] <THX-1138> Got to love freenode and the sysops here. - nice work guys.
[10:58] <Seveas> <-- umttva has quit (K-lined)
[10:58] <Seveas> <-- figoip has quit (K-lined)
[10:58] <slop> cool
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry gnomefreak..
[10:59] <Russel> has ubuntu support for vesafb-tng enabled?
[10:59] <kitche> yeah it's bots doing the DCC exploits just got about 5 in a row
[10:59] <slop> what is k-lined?
[10:59] <insites> giyf
[10:59] <thread> slop: banned from server
[10:59] <edgy> Seveas: can you explain this DCC in a simple way to be understood?
[10:59] <slop> ah ok
[10:59] <sureshot> jack_Sarrow hey 2 things have you uploaded your crib sheet yet and do you know anything about cedega
[10:59] <THX-1138> kitche - could be playing the numbers game betting some are logged in as root while getting set up.
[11:00] <pike_> fsancho: i dont know much of anything about bluetooth but ive head good things about the kde tool as opposed to gnome
[11:00] <Seveas> !exploit > edgy
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: No have not up'd the crib sheet and I dont do Wine, cdega or that other one..
[11:00] <it2> hello
[11:00] <B1zz> i think that they re coming back
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: I am finishing up my game... almost there
[11:00] <it2> i just installed ubuntu , it finaly works!!
[11:01] <sureshot> Jack_sparrow sorry to nag you what game is that man
[11:01] <it2> now i want to copy an encrypted dvd, anyone who knows how?
[11:01] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: I am writing Sudoku for WIndows
[11:01] <it2> i just installed k3b, but it won't work:(
[11:01] <THX-1138> Cedega is a bit easier to use and feeds my addiction for WoW. - Ubutnu is cool.
[11:01] <sureshot> that is correct if you get it running send me a copy ok
[11:02] <JinRoh> Hello
[11:02] <pike_> it2: cant you cat /dev/dvd > ~/dvd.iso  ?
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: It is working now..  JUst getting ready to see if the wife can crash it.
[11:02] <it2> pike: no way to copy directly?
[11:02] <THX-1138> lol@Jack_
[11:02] <sureshot> send it to me i bet my 11 year old can .... he can crash linux
[11:02] <JinRoh> Does anyone know why I can't install grub?? I have windows on a SDA hdd, and linux in HDA, grub installs on hd0, but grub screen doesn't appear at restart :(
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Not kidding, I can try to crash it for days and she can walk up and blow it away in seconds..
[11:03] <edgy> Seveas: thx for the clarification. It said "When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets." Which users would be removed?
[11:03] <sureshot> THS-1138 i cant get this cedega to update through the update wizard any ideas
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> JinRoh: what is the first boot disk?
[11:03] <Seveas> edgy, the victims
[11:03] <Tokenbad> I have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is
[11:03] <pike_> it2: dunno sorry
[11:03] <sureshot> i am not either i run linux for ever he comes along and i have to reinstall
[11:03] <edgy> Seveas: isn't the dcc disconnect those victims already?
[11:03] <JinRoh> fyrestrtr,  I have linux in hda (trying to install)
[11:03] <it2> pike: np :p
[11:03] <THX-1138> The trick to freenode is to contribute a few dollars - they offer a service to conceal your ip address.
[11:04] <JinRoh> and windows in sda
[11:04] <Seveas> edgy, they reconnect immediately
[11:04] <it2> pike: i'll do a dep seaarch on the internet, there must be some kind of way
[11:04] <KenSentMe> How do you switch to window 12 in irssi?
[11:04] <Seveas> THX-1138, please don't talk bullshit
[11:04] <Hibountu> Am I at the right place to ask questions about edgy ?
[11:04] <zugu> sometimes, after I close the VLC window in GNOME, the player continues to run in the background, and I have to do "killall wxvlc" to stop it; what could possibly cause such a behaviour?
[11:04] <Seveas> Hibountu, #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <POVaddct> KenSentMe: i think esc-a
[11:04] <edgy> Seveas: ah! and how can you tell the victims? how can I tell whether I am a victim of it?
[11:04] <apeman2020>  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off..... why?
[11:04] <Hibountu> thanks
[11:04] <Seveas> edgy, you're not -- you weren't disconnected
[11:05] <POVaddct> KenSentMe: or esc-a
[11:05] <THX-1138> Seveas - ?? - I remember reading it a few months ago. during their fundraiser. - could i make that up?
[11:05] <POVaddct> KenSentMe: sorry, esc-b
[11:05] <Seveas> THX-1138, apparently
[11:05] <yellow> ,,,
[11:05] <codezero> i have a question...i have an ati mobility radeon 9200 vga card. I have installed fglrx drivers from repositories. I have also xgl and compiz. The problem is that it is really to slow and when 
[11:05] <THX-1138> !language
[11:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:05] <sureshot> THS-1138 i cant get this cedega to update through the update wizard any ideas
[11:05] <codezero> I start my X session with fglrx drivers enabled..it is also relatively small
[11:05] <edgy> Seveas: ok but how can you tell the victims? why you don't allow them connect from beginning?
[11:05] <codezero> any idea on what is going on?
[11:06] <Seveas> edgy, one can only tell after an attack ;)
[11:06] <edgy> Seveas: how?
[11:06] <sureshot> THX-1138 i cant get this cedega to update through the update wizard any ideas
[11:06] <sureshot> sorry
[11:06] <Seveas> edgy, because they disconnect....
[11:06] <codezero> small=slow actually
[11:06] <Seveas> codezero, glxinfo | grep dirct
[11:06] <ompaul> !timetable > trappist
[11:06] <Seveas> codezero, glxinfo | grep direct
[11:06] <THX-1138> sureshot -bad password/email address?
[11:06] <edgy> Seveas: ah! but you did disconnect them in a very quick way. Just one by one?
[11:06] <|thunder> god i love beryl soooooo  much more than compiz.  a million times easier to install to.
[11:06] <Seveas> does it say direct rendering: yes?
[11:06] <ompaul> trappist, see if that helps with the none new stuff
[11:07] <kitche> edgy: there is a fix to it connect to a different port
[11:07] <trappist> ompaul: eh?
[11:07] <edgy> kitche: yes I got that
[11:07] <XiXaQ> has anyone here used xrdp in order to connect to ubuntu using remote desktop connection in windows?
[11:07] <edgy> Seveas: sorry for the may be stupid questions but this is my first time exposed to it. It's curiosity ;)
[11:07] <edgy> Seveas: thx for all the clarifications
[11:07] <sureshot> THX-1138 i can log in with the same info i just dont know i check all the depends and all checkes out ok i am at a loss
[11:08] <THX-1138> sureshot - hm, it worked yeterday.
[11:08] <sureshot> how do i kill a locked up program
[11:08] <ompaul> trappist, you sent a message to the bot a while ago :)_
[11:08] <|thunder> XiXaQ; no, but i would like to connect to my windows box with it. that'd be nice.
[11:08] <deltab> sureshot: does it have a window open?
[11:09] <codezero> seveas: when i do that it says for direct rendering: no and for OpenGL Mesa GLX Indirect
[11:09] <sureshot> deltab says it trying to download some ms fonts for cedega
[11:09] <qatsi> darn, this Sundance network card is driving me crazy...when i try to compile, i get make: *** No rule to make target 'all'. Stop. anyone knows why ?
[11:09] <codezero> but at this session fglrx is not enabled and xgl not working
[11:09] <Seveas> codezero, then fglrx isn't working and compiz wil indeed b slow as hell
[11:09] <paradizelost> howdy all, i'm trying to boot a sony desktop to the liveDVD, and it seems as though i'm getting translated ATA stat/err errors
[11:09] <deltab> sureshot: and closing the window doesn't work?
[11:09] <paradizelost> anyone have any ideas?
[11:10] <codezero> seveas: i will enable fglrx and try this again to see the results
[11:10] <ladydoor> sureshot: killall -s KILL programname
[11:10] <sureshot> no it is not responsive
[11:10] <codezero> Seveas, if fglrx is not enabled at that time too, what can i do to enable it?
[11:10] <ladydoor> sureshot: if you don't know the programname, you can use top to find out (look for something promising)
[11:10] <POVaddct> sureshot: open a terminal and type "xkill". the mouse cursor will change to a skull, then click on the window of the hanging app
[11:10] <codezero> i change my /etc/X11/xorg.conf drivers section to fglrx
[11:10] <sureshot> ladydoor if i type it as you wroted it would only kill cedega
[11:10] <codezero> fglrx is correctyl installed
[11:10] <Seveas> codezero, you need to do more than that -- read the guide in the wiki
[11:10] <ladydoor> sureshot: what's the program you're trying to kill?
[11:10] <sureshot> need
[11:10] <XiXaQ> |thunder, I think so too. I now have ubuntu installed in vmware under windows in order to use rdp, cause I can't install anything at work.
[11:11] <sureshot> cedega
[11:11] <sureshot> ladydoor cedega
[11:11] <trappist> ompaul: ah yeah, my purpose was to explain why the way we do things is a good thing, and so on, but that page covers it all reasonably well.  thanks :)
[11:11] <kitche> sureshot: if it's a windows program is should gett killed after you kill cedega also
[11:11] <ladydoor> sureshot: ok...so what's the problem with killing cedega, then?
[11:11] <swashbucklinstev> I'm having trouble updating or downloading any repository indexes, the connection keeps failing, I just installed via the OEM method. Any clues?
[11:11] <ladydoor> sureshot: (if cedega is what you want to kill)
[11:11] <sureshot> just trying to install and set it up
[11:11] <lostinc> Is there a good chess game for one player verse the computer
[11:12] <POVaddct> sureshot: if you want to be sure, type "ps axc | grep programname" and look at the PID (process id). then type: "kill process_id" and if that doesn't work "kill -9 process_id"
[11:12] <sureshot> ladydoor yes i am week on syntax ok dont want to have to reset x again
[11:12] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: are you using the us. repositories (look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list to find out)
[11:12] <codezero> Seveas, actually i read it. there are 2 different guides..one is with many step...i choosed the other one...i installed fglrx drivers and compiz compiz-gnome xgl package...then i created an .Xsession file on my home folder and restarted my session
[11:12] <paradizelost> Seveas: can ya give me a hand? i'm getting ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/40 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCq 0x3/11/04
[11:12] <codezero> do i have to do more than that?
[11:12] <variant> anyone know if you can name a partition with cfdisk or whatever like in windows? for example i want to call my partition bigmomma or somthing ?
[11:12] <Tokenbad> I have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is
[11:12] <Seveas> codezero, fglrx is not properly installed if you don't have direct rendering
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[11:12] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: us.archive.ubuntu.com right ?
[11:12] <ladydoor> Seveas: ...wait, i'm confused. why would you have to restart x, and why did you spend so long figuring out the syntax?
[11:13] <deltab> variant: cfdisk doesn't, but it will display labels it finds
[11:13] <kitche> variant: you mean something like a label?
[11:13] <variant> Tokenbad: the latest version of gparted is much much better (its not in apt though, you have to install deps and compile the source)
[11:13] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: aha. the us archives are often slow. first, back up your sources.list--in a terminal, type sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[11:13] <deltab> variant: use e2label to set the labels of e2fs partitions
[11:13] <variant> deltab: you know a gnu/linux program that will do it?
[11:13] <heanol_> i managed to get grub installed, but it wont boot.. grub just says error 21
[11:13] <variant> deltab: excellent thanks
[11:13] <|thunder> variant; how bout you build it and add it to the repo
[11:13] <|thunder> ;)
[11:14] <variant> |thunder: ye ye
[11:14] <sureshot> hey that xkill works kinda nice thanks who ever and also thanks ladydoor as i said i am week in the syntax of this os been in ms for all of my life
[11:14] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: then do sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list to edit it, and take out the part that says ``us.'' (but *only* the ``us.''--nothing else!)
[11:14] <codezero> Seveas, i will restart my X session and come back
[11:15] <ladydoor> sureshot: i don't know what you mean, but ok.
[11:15] <THX-1138> Seveas -"Cloak"  http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml
[11:15] <sureshot> ladydoor i dont know how to use the ubuntu commands i have been a certifide mcse for like 15 years or so
[11:16] <sureshot> i was a network eeng for all of my life
[11:16] <Tokenbad> variant, but how do I find the 30 gigs that is now missing?
[11:16] <Seveas> THX-1138, a) cloaks don't require donations b) cloaks don't protect against the DCC attack
[11:16] <ladydoor> sureshot: ah. well, in that case it was just copy/paste.
[11:16] <amonke1> i can't get direct rendering working with fglrx after much googling. i have a rad9250 which is covered by the drivers. i'm using the 8.28.8 driver.
[11:16] <THX-1138> Seveas - Ah, Okay.
[11:16] <ladydoor> sureshot: it's important to learn...it'll make your life a lot easier.
[11:16] <POVaddct> sureshot: being a mcse is no excuse for not learning to work with the unix shell
[11:16] <tomcatt> !ubotu joystick
[11:16] <variant> Tokenbad: you mean 30 gb of data is lost or 30 gb of hte partition is not visible? (the disk seems smaller than it is)?
[11:16] <ubotu> joystick: Testing and calibration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 20051019-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 72 kB
[11:16] <codezero> Seveas, you are right fglrx and direct rendering is not working
[11:16] <sureshot> i am trying but cant teach an old dog new tricks very easy LOL
[11:17] <codezero> and i see Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[11:17] <codezero> what should I do to correctly install fglrx? I did everything explained on the wiki?
[11:17] <Seveas> POVaddct, we have Minesweeper and Solitaire on Ubuntu too ;)
[11:17] <sureshot> POVaddct i am trying only had this runing for 4 weeks and have xgl and berly running and such
[11:17] <variant> lol, mcse is bs.. who cares about ms biztalk etc
[11:17] <POVaddct> Seveas: hehehe
[11:18] <sureshot> if anyone has any crib sheets they would like to email me let me know i will frame them
[11:18] <POVaddct> sureshot: xgl is totally unimportant. it's just eye candy, nothing more.
[11:18] <THX-1138> On the page it does look like cloak is related to a donation. - though it as you say would be no protection. - What is a cloak?
[11:18] <gean> hi again.. again desperately trying to install ubuntu on my laptop..
[11:18] <Seveas> variant, being MCSE qualified is great for your career if you pursue a career as windows sysadmin
[11:18] <Tokenbad> variant, the disk is smaller than it is
[11:18] <sureshot> but it is a start
[11:18] <codezero> Seveas, any ideas?
[11:18] <sureshot> i did but hate windows i really hate ms
[11:18] <Seveas> codezero, yes: properly install fglrx before trying xgl
[11:18] <swallow> If anyone can help me, I'm having problem booting onto newly installed Ubuntu
[11:19] <kitche> THX-1138: it has to do with routers the routers have a bad exploit in them cloaks just stop hackers from getting IPs
[11:19] <variant> Seveas: yeah, good for the carrer i suppose
[11:19] <deltab> swallow: what's the problem?
[11:19] <swallow> I get error loading operating system error
[11:19] <Seveas> THX-1138, try /whois Seveas
[11:19] <sureshot> well i have go and teach my wife and my best friend how to play guitar see ya all later
[11:19] <qatsi> while compiling some things, i get the error telling me that my .lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build directory dosnt exist...what should i do ?
[11:19] <Seveas> you won't see my ip address, it's cloaked
[11:19] <swallow> I installed it in hdb
[11:19] <gean> well, flash install didnt work.. booting went directly to the HD, the ``removable'' prepaired flash was simply not recognized as bootable ..
[11:19] <variant> Tokenbad: well the updated gparted should help you find it.. but backup all your data as parted/gparted warn you to do before hand
[11:19] <collier_> Can someone help me. I installed ircd-irc2 from synaptic and I type ircd in termainal and I get this
[11:19] <collier_> warning: different zlib version
[11:19] <collier_> binding stream socket irc.localhost[0.0.0.0@.6667] :Address already in use
[11:19] <Demon012> anyone else having problems accessing www.ubuntuforums.org atm?
[11:20] <swallow> I manually selected the hdd from boot menu
[11:20] <Seveas> qatsi, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:20] <THX-1138> kitche - Thanks - The darndest thing happens everytime i log on here. - useful  knowledge
[11:20] <yellow> hey guys
[11:20] <deltab> MissLady: isit the computer you're using now or another one?
[11:20] <kitche> collier_: port 6667 is used your connected though port 6667
[11:20] <yellow> is there a way
[11:20] <qatsi> Seveas: i dont have internet, i cant install the linux-headers....
[11:20] <Seveas> qatsi, they're on the cd too
[11:20] <swallow> no this isn't the computer i'm installing.
[11:20] <MissLady> why this question deltab ?
[11:20] <yellow> hey guys, is there a way to open a terminal where you are while browsing file  ?
[11:20] <Seveas> swallow, another IRCD is running and listening on port 6667
[11:21] <collier_> kitche: well I installed ircd-hybrid put I removed it from synaptic and I guess its still running, how do I stop it?
[11:21] <qatsi> Seveas: ok, now, is there a way to open synaptic only using the cd ? because when i inserted it, linux asked me that, but now i dont know how to...
[11:21] <Moriae> I am trying to connect to a printer that is on a windows box, I am very very unfamiliar with Ubuntu and linux in general, can anyone point me in the right direction.
[11:21] <variant> THX-1138: if you set up a fall back nick with nickserv you can just ask an irc staffer for a cloak.. i have one but im not identified at the momment
[11:21] <POVaddct> ladydoor: are you from germany? then you should know sven guckes, he is the text tools pope :)
[11:21] <swallow> I'm connected to 2 irc servers.
[11:21] <variant> THX-1138: ask nicley :) thats what i did.. although it was a few years ago'
[11:21] <gean> well, also windows install didn't work... had all that CD( of different distro)s in c: entirely copied in c:\ubuntu... but: the same problem showed up when rebooting from windows from ubuntu install inside: CD was not detected..
[11:21] <deltab> MissLady: if it's the machine you're using you might not be able to try things out without losing internet access temporarily
[11:22] <kitche> collier_: well it's in the initscripts but it's not running still see irc.freenode.net uses port 6667 so it can't opent he port for that irc server to use sicne you are already using it
[11:22] <MissLady> deltab...
[11:22] <qatsi> Seveas: uhmm, forget it :p i found out how to...thank you very much for the help..
[11:22] <THX-1138> variant - Thanks - Would look at that, it happened again. - useful knowledge. ;)
[11:22] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: Did that, still can't get a single thing through. I even removed all repositories from the list and added one to make sure
[11:22] <ladydoor> POVaddct: i'm not from germany...i'm from the us (we're not all yahoos, i promise)
[11:22] <ladydoor> POVaddct: thank you, though :-)
[11:22] <gean> just one q: to HardDisk install, do i need a new partition, copy all CD entries there, AND NEVER NEED MY CD-ROM ?
[11:22] <Winter-Soulstice> Anyone want to help me get my wirless lan card working using the linux native drivers?
[11:23] <Tokenbad> variant, trying to install the new gparted..says libuuid not installed but when tried to apt-get install libuuid1 it says newest is already installed
[11:23] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: wait...ok, so you removed *more* than just the characters ``us.''?
[11:23] <swashbucklinstev> bah
[11:23] <Seveas> gean, please fix your caps lock key
[11:23] <kitche> !libuuid
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libuuid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <gean> seveas: sorry, it was intention..
[11:23] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: (is that what you mean?)
[11:23] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: nay, just 'us."
[11:23] <deltab> does anyone know why bonobo-activation-server and gnome-vfs-daemon would have my /dev/dsp open? I can't find anything about this on the web
[11:23] <Winter-Soulstice> Anyone want to help me get my wirless lan card working using the linux native drivers?
[11:23] <THX-1138> variant - Is using irssi with screen more dangerous than irssi. or just xchat?
[11:23] <JapanFred> evenin' all
[11:24] <Winter-Soulstice> hi
[11:24] <Moriae> I'm attempting to print from my Ubuntu laptop, but my printer is connected to my windows PC. I have a network set up, but I have no clue how to locate the printer and print from it on my laptop. Can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction?
[11:24] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: in the list of repositories in synaptic, I removed all the repositories and then added one
[11:24] <gean> seveas, this is just a reflection of my desperated stadium of trying to install ubuntu..
[11:24] <pike_> Moriae: need to set it up to smb print i think never fooled with it though
[11:24] <kitche> THX-1138: screen with irssi is useful if you can stay logged on all the time you can hide the irc chats while you are away :)
[11:24] <yellow> hey guys, is there a way to open a terminal where you are while browsing file  ?
[11:24] <Moriae> Pike, thanks for the answer.
[11:24] <lassegs> i have a problem with my procsesor(pentium m) under edgy. When laptop is on A/C Power the proscessor always runs on 1.73(100%), without any processes using the CPU. How can i stop this?
[11:25] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: *whew*. ok, your internet is obviously working...try doing sudo apt-get update and paste its output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.com. also, would you mind pasting your sources.list? i'm a little confused :-)
[11:25] <JapanFred> Any ubuntu tweak masters here? am running ubuntu on a p3 500 256mb ram vaio, takes forever to boot, is there anything i can do?
[11:25] <Seveas> lassegs, file a bug
[11:25] <Seveas> JapanFred, use a faster pc 
[11:25] <THX-1138> Moriae - Using the graphical interface System .. Administration .. Printing ..  select windows printer samba smb
[11:25] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: sure, no problem
[11:25] <lassegs> Seveas: Yeah, in launchpad? Ive never done that before... :O
[11:26] <JapanFred> Seveas, hehe, i wish i could, but i cant afford a new laptop at the moment, i dont wanna install linux on my desktop just yet
[11:26] <Tokenbad> variant, any idea why it says its not installed when it is?
[11:26] <pike_> JapanFred: take a look in /etc/init.d there is alot of stuff in there you dont need you can remove with sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove  Dont go crazy :)
[11:26] <swallow> When I installed Ubuntu, I let installer erase and set automatically one hdd. I have XP on another hdd but I don't want dual boot menu. I'm just planing on using boot menu provided by BIOS. So I selected Ubuntu installed hdd from BIOS boot menu but I get 'error loading operating system' error. What can I do now?
[11:26] <qatsi> 
[11:27] <daryl_> Excuse me, how do I add more resolution options to System | Preferences | Screen Resolution?
[11:27] <Seveas> swallow, you'll need to install grub on the second harddisk
[11:27] <Seveas> daryl_, you don't
[11:27] <pike_> JapanFred: but you prob dont want to run gnome on that machine. xubuntu would be better
[11:27] <daryl_> Seveas: right now the top one is 1024x768.  and I forgot to check the additional options when I was installing ubuntu
[11:28] <swallow> Do I need to install it seperately? Isn't it installed automatically by installer by the way I installed it?
[11:28] <JapanFred> pike_, i couldn't figure out how to remove gnome/kde from this either, i wanna use xfce, but for the life of me i cant figure it out!!
[11:28] <swallow> If not how do I go about doing it?
[11:28] <JapanFred> pike_, am looking in the init.d now :) thankies
[11:28] <daryl_> Seveas: if I remember right, its a Xserver option, and I can configure it from terminal...
[11:29] <THX-1138> daryl_ - If you know what your display and adapter card are capable of you can safely edit xorg.conf  with the command sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  grab a sample form the 'Net - It is pretty straightforward.
[11:30] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: paste.ubuntu-nl.com seems down, http://rafb.net/paste/results/5xDza564.html
[11:30] <SoulBlink> does ubuntu have a passwordless single user mode?
[11:30] <gean> daryl_ i usually had to restart xorg-reconfigure or so...
[11:30] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: it's just slow
[11:30] <daryl_> THX-1138: yeah that rings a bell.  I remember there being a command line that starts the sam... yep gean just posted it
[11:30] <daryl_> thanks gean
[11:31] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: ah, I probably have funky timeout issues or something
[11:31] <THX-1138> daryl_ - You might also decide to run the configure script after turning of the graphical display manager sudo /etcinit.d/gdm stop hit ctrl+alt+backspace then log in at terminal (quick there is a timer) then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:32] <THX-1138> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:32] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: probably. also, you need to close synaptic before doing sudo apt-get update...you might try it again with synaptic closed, and also post your sources.list (if you don't mind)
[11:32] <JapanFred> do i need KDM and GDM?
[11:32] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: ah, apologies, I forgot to paste the sources.list
[11:32] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: no need to apologize!
[11:32] <daryl_> thx-1138 woot! that was exactly the command I've been trying to remember
[11:33] <THX-1138> I need help with a sticky keyboard. Hey it isn't what you think! - spilled soda.
[11:33] <pike_> JapanFred: you can remove the links for them but unless you use like xinit or something youll have to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start whenever you boot the computer
[11:33] <acollins> can anyone tell me the best way to make sure the fglrx kernel module is loaded at boot time?
[11:33] <kitche> THX-1138: unplug it run water on the board don't plug it in for 48 hours to let it dry
[11:34] <JapanFred> pike_, but do i need both of them though? wont gdm just suffice?
[11:34] <gfxstyler> hi
[11:34] <femi> i need help with the setting my screen resolution with ubuntu 6.06 lts 386 desktop edition
[11:34] <THX-1138> kitche -  i need a new /nick  THX-1138+3 - Thanks again.
[11:34] <femi> anybody know howto?
[11:34] <JapanFred> pike_, but do i need both of them though? wont gdm just suffice?
[11:35] <JapanFred> pike_, sorry didnt mean to send tha tagain...
[11:35] <|CADE|> hey - quick question
[11:35] <femi> can anybody give me some help?
[11:35] <|CADE|> I'm getting ready to do another install
[11:35] <pike_> JapanFred: yes no reason to have both
[11:35] <|CADE|> I run reiserfs as / partition
[11:35] <collier_> I am having so much trouble setting this ircd-hybrid server up.. I edited the config to my needs, then I changed the motd and I restarted the server and the motd stayed the same and I keep trying
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> !fixres > femi
[11:35] <|CADE|> anyone have any suggestion for my /home partition? :)
[11:36] <pike_> JapanFred: but only one or the other should be set to run right now anyway
[11:36] <JapanFred> pike_, yeah, just checked my proccesses and only gdm is running
[11:37] <JapanFred> brb, rebooting
[11:37] <ELpH95o> what's up
[11:37] <collier_> kitche: the folder ircd-hybrid under /etc/ is unreadable and I cant delete it.
[11:37] <C-O-L-T> hello can somebody tell me where to get an alternate install cd guide? wiki?
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> C-O-L-T: its the same as the breezy installer.
[11:37] <pike_> JapanFred: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89491.html for a rundown of some of the scripts
[11:38] <C-O-L-T> fyrestrtr: actually I am trying to install xubuntu. has the same installer like breezy badger in the old days
[11:38] <C-O-L-T> ?
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> yes, the installers are the same, the code is the same, hell the system is the same, the only thing different is the window manager / DE.
[11:38] <collier_> kitche: the folder ircd-hybrid under /etc/ is unreadable and I cant delete it.
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> |CADE|: ext3
[11:39] <kitche> collier_: did you sudo ls in it
[11:39] <THX-1138> collier - is that file locked and in use?
[11:39] <C-O-L-T> fyrestrtr: okay :D
[11:39] <C-O-L-T> fyrestrtr: thanks than
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> C-O-L-T: yeap :)
[11:39] <ELpH95o> Ubuntu has turned me into a linux convert
[11:39] <collier_> kitche: no
[11:39] <ELpH95o> heh
[11:39] <ELpH95o> only thing is midi sequencing stuff isn't as good as in windows
[11:40] <ELpH95o> and blender crashes when i try to run it
[11:40] <Tokenbad> I have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is
[11:40] <cyberfall__> Tokenbad
[11:41] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: (don't forget to send me the link :-) )
[11:41] <cyberfall> i got a question for someone
[11:41] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - were there any warnings about too many Primary partions? - i think 4 is the limit.
[11:41] <cyberfall> tryin to install glftpd and it wanting inetd
[11:42] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: same results after closing synaptic except that apt-get doesn't mention anything about /var/lib/dpkg/lock ,  http://rafb.net/paste/results/4nrbCI89.html
[11:42] <femi> i need help with my screen resolution:i want to lower it so as to see better my videos, but as soon as i lower it it becomes black and then ubuntu logs off and sets the resolution back to before
[11:42] <kitche> cyberfall: inetd is what peopel call a super server it starts the servers on boot sort of a service daemon
[11:42] <femi> and i can't change the frequency
[11:42] <collier_> kitche: this is not working, all I want to do is setup this irc server and ill be good
[11:42] <Wulong> cyberfall: rather use vsftpd or a sftp daemon.
[11:42] <femi> which i guess is the key to resolving my resolution problem
[11:42] <cyberfall> kitche,  ya i know that i found a varent to it
[11:42] <femi> please.
[11:42] <cyberfall> femi
[11:42] <kitche> collier_: well you have to not use IRC for it to use port 6667
[11:43] <swashbucklinstev> femi: how about expanding the video window?
[11:43] <kitche> cyberfall: xinetd?
[11:43] <femi> expanding the video?what do you mean
[11:43] <collier_> kitche: ohhh I got you brb then
[11:43] <femi> it blocks
[11:43] <femi> it freezes a lot
[11:43] <swashbucklinstev> femi: what video player do you use?
[11:43] <anon32> question: if I deinstall totem, will that break video previews in nautilus?
[11:43] <cyberfall> in the systems preference there the screen resolution
[11:43] <femi> is it a problem concerning the fact that linux has a monolythic kernel?
[11:43] <cyberfall> if that dont change it im not sure how to reset it
[11:44] <femi> i use vlc player
[11:44] <cyberfall> kitche no
[11:44] <femi> cause it's the only one that plays divx
[11:44] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: it sounds like it's an internet connection problem, because *in theory* that line should work. however, why don't you replace your sources.list with this (*definitely* working) one (which i'm pasting as we speak)
[11:44] <femi> on my system
[11:44] <anon32> question: if I deinstall totem, will that break video previews in nautilus?
[11:44] <cyberfall> kitche,  inetutils-inetd
[11:45] <cyberfall> vlc player is cool
[11:45] <femi> i just want to know if it is possible to watch videos without them freezing or scattering
[11:45] <THX-1138> Hi femi - I don't comepletly understand why it is doing what it is. - sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to add resolutions or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to run through the display/adapter card script.
[11:45] <cyberfall> femi what video card u got
[11:45] <Flannel> THX-1138: gksudo
[11:45] <anon32> question: if I deinstall totem, will that break video previews in nautilus?
[11:45] <femi> with windows they work just fine cause i got a good graphics card and a fast pc, quite
[11:45] <anon32> can anyone ask that?
[11:46] <anon32> answer*
[11:46] <femi> i got a radeon 9200 with 256 mb ram
[11:46] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: Indeed, I have very whimsical internet service :-D
[11:46] <kromel> what is the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[11:46] <anon32> gksudo is graphical
[11:46] <THX-1138> Flannel - I thought you only used the command line. lol - femi Flannel is right.
[11:46] <swashbucklinstev> brb
[11:46] <Wulong> Does it matter which distro I use (x|k)ubuntu to install a server? they are all the same, right?
[11:46] <cyberfall> femi not sure then check to see if your driver is upto date
[11:46] <THX-1138> Hi Flannel
[11:46] <Flannel> anon32: I believe so, yes.
[11:47] <kromel> anon32, thanks.
[11:47] <Flannel> Wulong: if you have a server install (with no GUI) then yes, perfectly identical.
[11:47] <Winter-Soulstice> If Im using dapper can i use beryl too?
[11:47] <cyberfall> kitche,
[11:47] <der0b> wulong: there's an ubuntu server as well.  it doesn't install a GUI
[11:47] <anon32> Flannel, in that case, can I at least get it to stop playing DVDs automatically?
[11:47] <kitche> I m here cyberfall
[11:47] <Wulong> der0b: yea, that was the one I was talking about. Don't want GUI.
[11:47] <blind> Winter-Soulstice: yes. i love it.
[11:47] <cyberfall> inetutils-inetd crazy
[11:47] <Flannel> Wulong: If you want a server either grab the server CD, or the alternate ISO, and type "server" at the install prompt.  Depending on what you want kernel wise.
[11:47] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25695/
[11:48] <femi> how do i update my drivers in linux'i am new on the system
[11:48] <cyberfall> well i ment the inetutils is what it says in etc/init.d
[11:48] <Flannel> Wulong: I don't believe there are ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu server CDs, just an ubuntu one.
[11:48] <der0b> wulong: you can download the iso for ubuntu server but I think the sever install on the standard ubuntu cd will get you the same thing
[11:48] <blind> ,
[11:48] <Flannel> Wulong: If there are, they're different only in name
[11:48] <kromel> anyone else here that run xgl-compiz find that after a bit, you get a physical headache?  I had to remove it because of it.
[11:48] <Wulong> Flannel: there are, on the alternative CD's. Yea, thats what I thought.
[11:48] <kitche> cyberfall: I think that is inetd since I onyl know of one alternative to inetd
[11:49] <anon32> can someone tell me how to get totem to not play DVDs/CDs automatically? that's getting kind of irritating
[11:49] <cyberfall> ya xinetd
[11:49] <Flannel> Wulong: well, yeah, the alternate CDs, but the end result is the same
[11:49] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: try that sources.list, do sudo apt-get update, and see if it spits out errors. if so, it's a connetion problem of some kind.
[11:49] <cyberfall> but do i need to make a link to that file to fix it
[11:49] <barata> how to install dvd::rip? is it actually dvdrip?
[11:49] <cyberfall> or just rename the file and hope it dont mess something up
[11:49] <anon32> can someone tell me how to get totem to not play DVDs/CDs automatically? that's getting kind of irritating
[11:50] <Dr_willis> !info dvdrip
[11:50] <Wulong> Also, after server install I get a ath0 and wifi0 device, which is related to eth1. Works under install, but not after install. Is this normal? haven't seen to much on it though
[11:50] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[11:50] <ladydoor> anon32: so is repeating your question after less than a minute.
[11:50] <femi> how do i update my device driver on ubuntu?
[11:50] <anon32> well
[11:50] <cyberfall> hehe ladydoor
[11:50] <anon32> nobody ever wants to answer me
[11:50] <cyberfall> femi
[11:50] <ELpH95o> Error: Rage 128 timed out... exiting
[11:50] <ELpH95o> i get that when i try to run Blender
[11:50] <femi> yea
[11:50] <cyberfall> use the synaptic package manager
[11:50] <blind> !patience > anon32
[11:51] <whyameye> Is there a quicktime plugin for Firefox?
[11:51] <whyameye> !quicktime
[11:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:51] <swashbucklinstev> ah, hope I didn't miss anything
[11:51] <THX-1138> !irssi
[11:51] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[11:52] <whyameye> !quicktime
[11:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <Flannel> er, irssi is already installed... someone should update that factoid
[11:52] <puff> Afternoon.  I"m starting to use the terminal tabs in the xterminal;  I tried to change the shortcut for switching betwewen tabs to match firefox tabbing (ctrl-tab for next, shift-ctrl-tab for prev) but that just marks it as "disabled
[11:52] <THX-1138> Flannel - yes, Thats why i checked. - ubotu is an amnesiac
[11:52] <femi> synaptic manager which section?system?
[11:53] <|CADE|> how do you determine the UUID of a device?
[11:53] <anon32> can someone tell me how to get totem to not play DVDs/CDs automatically? at least you can turn autoplay off in Windows..
[11:53] <cyberfall> femi,  yes
[11:53] <cyberfall> under administration
[11:53] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: any luck?
[11:54] <POVaddct> |CADE|: if the device has ext2 or ext3 filesystem: tune2fs -l /dev/hdX
[11:54] <femi> multiverse, universe or basic?
[11:54] <pike_> anon32: im curious does totem automatically start when you put a dvd in?
[11:55] <|CADE|> POVaddct: it's JFS
[11:55] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: not yet, I may have missed anything you said since you mentioned your sources.list, I had to reboot. still seeing apt-get failing to connect
[11:55] <POVaddct> |CADE|: then i don't know
[11:55] <THX-1138> Is there Kernel patch to add a device unseen by the BIOS? (3 video adapters only 2 are seen 1 onboard 1 pcie)
[11:55] <anon32> pike_, yes
[11:56] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: why did you have to reboot?
[11:56] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: and did you try the one i put in pastebin?
[11:56] <THX-1138> anon32 - There is a kernel patch?
[11:56] <madrile> hola
[11:56] <Tokenbad> THX-1138, no...it was only 1 partition before...then wanted to add another from the free space on the one..
[11:56] <Tokenbad> cyberfall, yes?
[11:56] <collier_> kitche: I am trying lots of irc servers, none are working
[11:56] <madrile> #mac
[11:56] <ladydoor> anon32: i think you can configure that in gnome-volume-manager
[11:56] <anon32> THX-1138, sorry?
[11:56] <ladydoor> anon32: (turning off the dvd thing)
[11:57] <collier_> kitche: for the one I just tryed i got this error E: rageircd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:57] <THX-1138> anon32 - I am easily confused. pardon the bios question.
[11:57] <POVaddct> madrile: yes, you can put ubuntu on a mac too :)
[11:57] <pike_> anon32: first thing i do is switch out totem for mplayer and i use vlc for streaming stuff but its not a bad player
[11:57] <anon32> volume manager? geez... real intuitive
[11:57] <whyameye> !wine
[11:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:58] <anon32> pike_, but does deinstalling totem break thumbnails?
[11:58] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: the cpu frequency scaling monitor didn't like being clicked on for some reason. I don't think i caught the URL for your sources.list, I'll check the index
[11:58] <blind> anon32: have you gotten your answer?
[11:58] <kitche> collier_: that error has to deal with APT
[11:58] <anon32> um, running "gnome-volume-manager" does nothing
[11:58] <blind> if you run gnome-volume-manager you can disable the autoplay in there
[11:58] <blind> does nothing?
[11:58] <anon32> blind: no
[11:58] <linnuxxy> I have motherboard gigabyte ga-8i925xe-g... 1 sata HDD... 1 IDE HDD... and 1 IDE CD-ROM drive .... in windows everything works just fine... in dapper... i can't access the IDE HDD... although there is a /dev/hdb1..5
[11:58] <blind> run it from terminal
[11:58] <pike_> anon32: not sure nautilus is also a casualty
[11:58] <collier_> kitche: what is that?
[11:59] <anon32> it just runs and closes... do I need to pass it any args?
[11:59] <collier_> kitche: Now whenever I try to install something I get this E: rageircd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:59] <blind> anon32: it should pop up a gui
[11:59] <anon32> pike_, um, what file manager do you use then?
[11:59] <kitche> collier_: yeah it has to deal with rageircd did you uninstall it?
[11:59] <blabla> which nick do you prefer between foo_bar_foo and fo0bar
[12:00] <collier_> kitche: uninstall? you mean remove?
[12:00] <kitche> yeah
[12:00] <anon32> blind, it doesn't, do I need to sudo?
[12:00] <blind> anon32: i don't think so O_o
[12:00] <collier_> kitche: it wont let me it keeps giving me that error
[12:00] <pike_> anon32: do me a favor and uninstall it im curious now :)