[02:00] <Burgwork> LaserJock, I am seeing a segfault, but it might be related to our desktop-multiplier
[02:01] <LaserJock> in Fullscreen?
[02:01] <Burgwork> yes
[02:01] <Burgwork> oh, btw, your dm stuff is rock solid
[02:02] <LaserJock> Burgwork: yeah? cool
[02:02] <LaserJock> you guys get any bug reports?
[02:02] <Burgwork> not yet
[02:02] <bddebian> Heya
[02:05] <LaserJock> Burgwork: package any more versions? or is the one I did it?
[02:06] <Burgwork> nope, no new versions yet
[02:07] <LaserJock> heh
[02:07] <LaserJock> ok, were does gcompris segfaul?
[02:08] <Burgwork> at start
[02:08] <Burgwork> issue with xrandr
[02:09] <LaserJock> hmm, mine doesn't
[02:10] <LaserJock> I just ran gcompris -f
[02:11] <Burgwork> it is a dm issue
[02:14] <LaserJock> hehe
[02:14] <LaserJock> as a side effect
[02:14] <LaserJock> my lab mate just walked in and started playing gcompris
[02:14] <LaserJock> ;-)
[02:15] <Burgwork> heh
[02:15] <Burgwork> gcompris needs some serious dev work
[02:15] <Burgwork> it is quite crashy
[02:38] <LaserJock> Burgwork: heh, she's still playing gcompris
[02:40] <Burgwork> heh
[02:41] <LaserJock> and here I was thinking Edubuntu might not have good apps for universities ;-)
[02:50] <bddebian> heh
[02:53] <Burgwork> Laser_away, it is all about what sort of mental age range the users have
[02:56] <bddebian> double heh
[03:09] <tomveens> In edgy repo there is the new blender
[03:09] <tomveens> how can you get the new blender package into dapper?
[03:09] <tomveens> were can you download the package?
[03:11] <crimsun> you could request a backport
[03:13] <tomveens> what do you mean by that?
[03:13] <tomveens> put the edgy repo in your apt list?
[03:14] <tomveens> does apt-get upgrade blender working?
[03:25] <bimberi> !backports
[03:25] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:26] <crimsun> (sorry, didn't mean to leave you hanging, just very busy atm)
[03:30] <tomveens> Thanks I know enought!
[03:30] <tomveens> about the backports ofcource, the rest I am eating
[04:33] <JavierElectrico> hello
[04:34] <JavierElectrico> is there anybody outhere?
[04:35] <bimberi> hi JavierElectrico
[04:35] <JavierElectrico> hi bimberi
[04:35] <JavierElectrico> how r u?
[04:36] <bimberi> bit tired actually, you?
[04:37] <JavierElectrico> mmm, actually "investigating" about the edubuntu project
[04:37] <JavierElectrico> and also tired:P
[04:37] <JavierElectrico> where are you from?
[04:37] <bimberi> :)
[04:38] <bimberi> Australia
[04:39] <JavierElectrico> what time is there?
[04:40] <LaserJock> earlier than here ;-)
[04:40] <JavierElectrico> so where are you from LaserJock?
[04:41] <JavierElectrico> and hi =)
[04:41] <bimberi> 12:40pm Thursday here
[04:41] <LaserJock> hi JavierElectrico, and I'm from the West Coast, USA
[04:42] <bimberi> ie. about time to get lunch :)
[04:42] <JavierElectrico> PM!
[04:42] <JavierElectrico> here is 22:42
[04:42] <JavierElectrico> Wednesday
[04:44] <JavierElectrico> Which city are you from Laser?
[04:45] <JavierElectrico> CA?
[04:45] <LaserJock> Reno, NV
[04:45] <JavierElectrico> a question, what's the main time here in this channel?
[04:46] <LaserJock> hmm, I don't know
[04:46] <JavierElectrico> lol
[04:46] <bimberi> everything happens while i'm asleep :|
[04:46] <JavierElectrico> XD!
[04:47] <LaserJock> it seems more active in normal western european times I would think
[04:47] <JavierElectrico> i thought that you were eating bimberi
[04:47] <bimberi> nope, procrastinating :)
[04:47] <JavierElectrico> you what?
[04:48] <bimberi> sorry, avoiding what i should be doing
[04:48] <JavierElectrico> (dictionary search...)
[04:48] <JavierElectrico> ah oki
[04:48] <bimberi> :)
[04:49] <JavierElectrico> oh sorry, i haven't introduce myself
[04:49] <JavierElectrico> I'm Javier, 21 years old, from Santiago, Chile
[04:51] <JavierElectrico> is everyone sleeping?
[04:51] <bimberi> hi Javier
[04:51] <JavierElectrico> or doing something else?
[04:51] <JavierElectrico> hi bimberi
[04:51] <JavierElectrico> where are you from?
[04:51] <JavierElectrico> lol!
[04:51] <bimberi> argh :)
[04:51] <JavierElectrico> australia....city?
[04:51] <JavierElectrico> sydney?
[04:52] <bimberi> JavierElectrico: Canberra
[04:53] <bimberi> now for lunch (finally)
[04:53] <JavierElectrico> that is at tje northj
[04:53] <JavierElectrico> oki
[04:54] <JavierElectrico> the north*
[04:56] <LaserJock> it's a bit quiet
[04:56] <LaserJock> but this isn't a hugely active channel to start with
[04:57] <JavierElectrico> ok, but im not interested in talk_about_anything channel
[04:58] <JavierElectrico> indeed, i'm courious in edubuntu
[05:09] <LaserJock> JavierElectrico: so what are you curious about?
[05:10] <JavierElectrico> actually, about the support for teachers
[05:10] <LaserJock> ok
[05:10] <LaserJock> anything in particular?
[05:10] <JavierElectrico> because, as i have investigated and search on the wikis, there's a lot of kids apps, but i couldn't find anyone (guess one, maybe) for teachers
[05:11] <JavierElectrico> i mean, some db for the pupil's scores
[05:11] <LaserJock> hmm, there are some apps for creating tests I think
[05:13] <JavierElectrico> yes, for that
[05:13] <JavierElectrico> but to manage the class?
[05:14] <JavierElectrico> or to have some stadistics about the class
[05:14] <bimberi> !info schooltool
[05:14] <ubotu> schooltool: common platform for school administration. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.4-1build1 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 180 kB
[05:15] <JavierElectrico> wait, gonna google it
[05:15] <bimberi> JavierElectrico: i'm not sure how much there is in schooltool at this stage but i believe it does have ambitions to cover that sort of need
[05:15] <bimberi> JavierElectrico: Canberra is in southeast Australia, about 300kms SW of Sydney.
[05:16] <LaserJock> I think there was a Summer of Code project for some more admin stuff
[05:20] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:21] <JavierElectrico> hi P3L|C4N0
[05:23] <JavierElectrico> bimberi, did you eat?
[05:25] <JavierElectrico> Laser...
[05:25] <bimberi> JavierElectrico: lol,  yes
[05:25] <JavierElectrico> do you know if is another aplication, more oriented to teachers?
[05:27] <JavierElectrico> to manage grades?
[05:28] <LaserJock> hmm, I don't really know of one
[05:28] <LaserJock> I've always used openoffice calc
[05:28] <JavierElectrico> lol!
[05:28] <JavierElectrico> so, gonna start one
[05:30] <JavierElectrico> bimberi, how old are you?
[05:30] <JavierElectrico> pelicano?
[05:40] <JavierElectrico> bimberi?
[05:45] <bimberi> JavierElectrico: too old :)
[05:45] <bimberi> (and busy)
[05:47] <JavierElectrico> do you work?
[06:40] <JavierElectrico> bye
[06:42] <LaserJock> cya
[07:17] <LaserJock> hi jbrefort 
[07:17] <jbrefort> hi LaserJock 
[09:24] <RichEd> back in a bit - reboot
[09:59] <cbx33> best way to upgrade a dapper machine to edgy?
[10:00] <cbx33> i tried the update manager -d -c but it didn't do anything
[10:01] <ogra> cbx33, ask mvo, i'm not sure thats still supposed to work that way
[10:01] <cbx33> ogra this is the test you wanted how do you want me to proceed
[10:01] <cbx33> change sources file and dist-upgrade?
[10:01] <RichEd> hi cbx33 ogra ...
[10:01] <cbx33> or ask mvo for the end user way?
[10:01] <cbx33> hey RichEd 
[10:02] <ogra> please ask mvo for the preferred method ... else sources.list should do ...
[10:02] <cbx33> http://www.progbox.co.uk/finals/RC/exportUB2.ogg
[10:02] <ogra> but i'm sure thats *not* the preferred one 
[12:53] <RichEd> ogra: last one for now ... knut has some technical requirements / suggestion targets for open source in education ... what is the best place for us to discuss these to see if we need to bring any of them to put on the table at UDS ?
[12:53] <RichEd> will we have an internal #edubuntu session for spec. input from our community
[12:58] <ogra> yep, we should
[12:58] <ogra> but discussing that specific issue should go on the ML
[12:58] <ogra> -devel i'd say
[12:59] <RichEd> okay.
[05:15] <highvoltage> MAN!
[05:15] <highvoltage> this channel is quiet today
[05:15] <highvoltage> http://lordcow.org/gnomey_campbell.jpg
[05:15] <ogra> make some noise then :)
[05:16] <highvoltage> we should actually be making noise for you ogra :)
[05:16] <highvoltage> my day was so bad and yet I'm in a good mood. unexplainable!
[05:16] <ogra> are you using edubuntu atm ?
[05:17] <highvoltage> I was stuck in traffic for 2.5h this morning, my mail server died this morning and the admin is still working on it (so all my mail has been bounsing today) and the people who installed my home internet made a mistake so it's still not working.
[05:17] <highvoltage> yes, I am using edubuntu on my laptop, but it is still dapper
[05:17] <highvoltage> at the schools we use Xubuntu + the edu tools, but we tell them it's edubuntu :)
[05:17] <ogra> well, but there you have your reason for the good mood ;)
[05:17] <highvoltage> hehe!
[05:18] <highvoltage> of course
[05:18] <highvoltage> I shoudl make a bill board of myself with a big smile and a thumbs up and an edubuntu logo :)
[05:18] <highvoltage> geez, then our users would run away quickly
[05:18] <highvoltage> we'll have to get some hot girl instead :)
[05:18] <ogra> send it to me, i'll put it on an highway if we go to MV ;)
[05:23] <highvoltage> heh
[05:35] <sbalneav> heh, finally got the chance to /join here
[05:35] <ogra> heh
[05:35] <ogra> xchat has autojoin modes ;)
[06:01] <juliux> how can i start the tftp manual?
[06:02] <ogra> you shouldnt ... its an inetd service
[06:02] <juliux> but i get an tftp connection failure on the client
[06:02] <ogra> but look in /etc/inetd.conf for the parameters if you urgently want to do that ...
[06:02] <juliux> ah i have a problem with the inetd 
[06:05] <juliux> argh i am so stupid
[06:14] <cbx33> hey LaserJock 
[06:16] <LaserJock> hi cbx33 
[06:17] <highvoltage> hey LaserJock and cbx33 
[06:17] <cbx33> is ther ea bug in dappr
[06:17] <LaserJock> highvoltage!
[06:17] <LaserJock> no bugs
[06:17] <cbx33> when I sithc apps
[06:17] <LaserJock> dapper has none
[06:17] <cbx33> switch apps
[06:17] <cbx33> it takes a second or 2 to swtich
[06:17] <cbx33> only since yesterday when I did an update
[06:17] <ogra> dont switch apps then ...
[06:17] <ogra> must be you, there are no bugs in software ...
[06:18] <ogra> thats a myth brought up by *users*
[06:18] <cbx33> and when I move my mouse over the bottom task bar..my screen flashes
[06:18] <cbx33> ha ha ha
[06:29] <juliux> ogra, i starte ltsp-build-client, but why it installs additonal software from repos which are not in my sources.list?
[06:29] <ogra> ??
[06:29] <juliux> i use an internal mirror
[06:29] <ogra> it defaults to archive.ubuntu-com
[06:30] <ogra> and only uses main/restricted from there
[06:30] <juliux> yes but why? i have a traffic limit per week 
[06:30] <juliux> so it cost me traffic
[06:30] <ogra> then use the --mirror arg
[06:30] <ogra> ltsp-build-client --mirror http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu 
[06:30] <juliux> thxs
[06:31] <juliux> good to know
[06:31] <ogra> replace de.archive.ubuntu.com whth what you like
[06:31] <ogra> or
[06:31] <ogra> ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
[06:31] <ogra> if you have the edgy CD mounted
[06:31] <ogra> thats even faster
[06:32] <juliux> i have a mirror in my local network
[06:32] <ogra> still CD is faster than http ;)
[06:32] <ogra> the fastes is loop mounting an iso ;)
[06:33] <cbx33> gisomount
[06:34] <cbx33> GISOMOUNT :p
[06:34] <juliux> but i don't know where my edgy beta cd is
[06:37] <LaserJock> RichEd: ping?
[06:38] <lucasvo> ogra: how can I change my hostname?
[06:44] <ogra> lucasvo, use the network gui tool ...
[06:44] <lucasvo> ogra: ok...
[06:44] <lucasvo> thanks
[06:46] <bddebian> Howdy
[07:08] <LaserJock> ogra: no known bugs?
[07:09] <ogra> i dont know any atm
[07:09] <bddebian> Damn, go ogra
[07:09] <LaserJock> is that gcompris in fulscreen bug still open?
[07:09] <ogra> i'm sure there will come up some the next 7 days :)
[07:09] <ogra> LaserJock, there is a gcompris bug for edgy ?
[07:10] <LaserJock> well, I'm not sure for edgy
[07:10] <LaserJock> but somebody was reporting that gcompris in fullscreen segfaulted
[07:10] <LaserJock> but it didn't happen for me
[07:10] <LaserJock> they were probably running XGL ;-)
[07:11] <ogra> right and dapper
[07:11] <ogra> thats an oldf one ...
[07:11] <LaserJock> ok
[07:11] <ogra> xgl and gcompris dont like each other
[07:11] <LaserJock> btw, do you want to add more apps to the edubuntu-bugs ?
[07:11] <ogra> but i refuse to care about xgl ... thats something motu may do ;)
[07:12] <LaserJock> I noticed that edubuntu-bugs is not the initial bug contact for quite a few apps we ship
[07:13] <LaserJock> https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs
[07:13] <LaserJock> I was going to add some the other day but thought I should ask you first
[07:24] <ogra> doit :)
[07:42] <rodarvus> I used gcompris with full screen just yesterday
[07:42] <rodarvus> it it worked flawlessly
[07:43] <LaserJock> yes
[07:43] <LaserJock> I was testing it real quick
[07:44] <LaserJock> and my lab mate walked in and started playing it ;-)
[07:44] <cbx33> hehehe
[07:44] <LaserJock> ok, well I added a few more packages to the edubuntu-bugs initial contact list
[07:45] <cbx33> anyone know of an http proxy for gobby?
[07:47] <rodarvus> hmm, no
[08:55] <juliux> ogra, did you teste edgy with the bt100 thinclient i send you?
[10:18] <LaserJock> cbx33: what time is it there? should you be going to bed?
[10:18] <cbx33> 9:15
[10:18] <cbx33> interested in hearing a sound session test :p
[10:18] <cbx33> get teamspeak and I'll point you in the right direction
[10:18] <cbx33> I'm playing to Frank hehehe
[10:18] <LaserJock> sorry, little busy here and I don't have teamspeak on me (stupid OS X)
[10:18] <cbx33> *bah*
[10:18] <cbx33> heheh
[11:28] <EmxBA> hi