=== jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-253-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:15] !ubuntu counter [12:15] If you want to register with the Ubuntu Counter project, please visit this page: http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/useraccount.php?action=newuser [12:17] hmm, right === haggai_ [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai_ is now known as haggai [12:18] Hmmm, there is a way you can change the images there but I don't remember how [12:18] Riddell: Looks like you can only actually register as a Ubuntu user, but you can change images and get a Kubuntu image for forums and things [12:23] Riddell: The person I was referring to was trappist [12:24] Figured I'd just tell you here since the emails keep being rejected for some strange reason === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-63.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A6196D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:35] Riddell: it looks like the first issue with openwengo is getting a tarball..... === Tonio_ [n=tonio@94.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@66.252.46.192] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-131-254.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] Howdy === Tonio___ [n=tonio@40.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:05] i think konversation needs a new default color scheme in edgy ;) === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheBearded1_ [n=cyle@CPE-24-163-150-201.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] i have a bug to report, and a couple questions about usability === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.26] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Tonio_ [n=tonio@40.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] Riddell: kdesu still fails here, even after reinstall kdebase-bin... [02:32] I just restarted kde to be sure, but it still wants to talk to su [02:34] Tonio_: where can I sign up for kubuntu development? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:34] is there any shortage of kubuntu developers? === h3sp4wn [n=samw@unaffiliated/h3sp4wn] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:35] TheBearded1_: there is no "signup" [02:35] TheBearded1_: need any info on how it works in fact ? [02:36] the structure etc ??? [02:39] well, i've tried this before and I just couldn't get into it (not I didn't want to, but nobody would let me package anything/touch existing packages) [02:39] hum, strange [02:39] okay let's resume the thing [02:39] everything starts with contribution [02:39] there is no signup [02:39] but I installed edgy a couple days ago, and I'm really liking what it's shaping up to be [02:40] you have dozens of way to contribute (packaging, docs, debugging etc...) [02:40] well I'd like to start my contributions by getting knetworkmanager to be a package installed from the very beginning [02:40] best place if you wanna start is this channel, since you can easilly find people to sponsor your work [02:40] TheBearded1_: hehe, we'll rediscuss about knetworkmanager :) it is a complicated issue [02:41] TheBearded1_: when you have done significant contribution, you can apply to become kubuntu-member [02:41] I figured it had atleast discussed before, what was the decision about knetworkmanager, or rather, why was it not decided on, it or some other network manager? [02:42] TheBearded1_: the problem with knetworkmanager is that all wifi cards linux drivers are not wext compatible [02:42] NetworkManager only has a wext backend? [02:42] so there are people for which (k)networkmanager don't work, while other tools do [02:43] TheBearded1_: it uses wpa_supplicant [02:43] wpa_supplicant has multiple backends [02:43] TheBearded1_: so it has the same limitations, need to be launched with a driver [02:43] Is kde 3.5.5 definately not going to go into edgy ? [02:43] h3sp4wn: yes, it has, but most of the time wext is used by default if your card isn't support by any other driver [02:44] h3sp4wn: could be if accepted, we will ask for it to get in [02:44] are newer driver developers not using wext? I mean, who in their right mind wouldn't code a wireless driver against it? [02:44] TheBearded1_: there is no "work" needed for knetworkmanager to be shiped by default, just that it needs to be discussed and approved [02:45] TheBearded1_: there is an effort to go to wext for most drivers [02:45] and i'm gonna take a guess and say that a discussion started by a newcomer isn't gonna make it happen :( ? [02:45] TheBearded1_: I think in the near future, we will ship it by default, but that'll probably wait for networkmanager 0.7, with IP settings support [02:45] TheBearded1_: not everyone uses dhcp so knetworkmanager isn't the perfect solution at the moment [02:45] is that something being developed upstream right now? [02:46] TheBearded1_: yes, networkmanager 0.7 is supposed to support this [02:46] release eta? [02:46] in time for edgy? [02:46] TheBearded1_: I agree to the fact knetworkmanager should at least feet on the cd, if not installed [02:46] What is wrong with wpagui ? its qt and small (and written by the people who write wpasupplicant) [02:46] TheBearded1_: no it'll be in a few month, probably for edgy +1 [02:47] it's not on by default [02:47] i think the fact that there's not a user friendly way to configure network devices out of the box should be seen as a bug [02:47] TheBearded1_: edgy is in post beta state now, so appart from essential components like kde, no updates are allowed, only bugfixing [02:47] TheBearded1_: If I had to choose, I would ship it :) but I am not the only one to decide :) [02:48] I am only the maintainer of knetworkmanager, but that also includes wpa_supplicant, networkmanager, and I can't decide for those [02:48] TheBearded1_: what are you interested in concerning kubuntu dev ? packaging, coding, bug fixing ? [02:49] i'd like to do some ui programming [02:49] TheBearded1_: have some knowledge in QT/kde dev ? [02:49] packaging.........not a big fan of [02:49] we miss UI developpers [02:50] a lot of c++ experience, and a little qt experience [02:50] definitly miss, so there are lots of potential work to do if you want to [02:50] but i know how to read api docs :) [02:50] TheBearded1_: well, that could be interesting [02:50] TheBearded1_: no new development will be done for edgy now, but will for edgy+1 [02:50] yeah i understand that [02:51] and that can be started right now [02:51] if edgy is already locked out for new apps, sounds like it has to in order for a package to make it in [02:51] examples : better Adept UI, python/kde application to install packages locally like gdebi [02:51] yeah i found an adept bug that i'm not sure has been reported (a bug search for adept was huge) [02:52] I went to install sun-java5-jre through adept the other day [02:52] BIG mistake [02:52] TheBearded1_: yes, mornfall is developing it, and most of the time, he is here [02:52] it got stuck, because aptitude was waiting for the OK on the license agreement [02:52] so i ended up having to kill adept [02:52] TheBearded1_: ah you had issues with debconf too ? ;) [02:53] TheBearded1_: mornfall is searching for help, really [02:53] so i had to kill it, run dpkg --configure -a, unlock a few databases, reinstall a couple packages, then install sun-java5-jre manually [02:53] TheBearded1_: if you have experience in C++ and are ready to help, adept is probably THE project that currently needs live [02:53] love [02:54] TheBearded1_: if you feel ready to help on that point, best is to come back tomorow so that we can discuss this with Riddell (kubuntu boss) and mornfall if he is there [02:54] TheBearded1_: would you be interested in that eventually ? [02:55] I got a sort of pc load letter error here [02:55] when i run apt-get source: E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) [02:56] i've ran aptitude update a few times, and jacked with my sources.list, but i can't download package sources because of this [02:56] hum, never saw that error before.... [02:56] TheBearded1_: tried to remove that file and ran update ? [02:56] "No such file or directory", it doesn't lie [02:57] the file doesn't exist [02:57] TheBearded1_: probably need to recreate your cache [02:58] TheBearded1_: sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/* && sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial && sudo apt-get update [02:58] that can help, but I'm unsure [02:59] TheBearded1_: so, could cotribution to adept improvement be interesting for you somehow ? [03:00] i'd like to help with adept [03:00] i agree that it needs love [03:00] it's pretty minimal [03:00] mornfall will be happy :) [03:00] i mean, i have a fresh install of edgy here, and i click on add/remove packages: 5 packages show up in adept [03:00] TheBearded1_: yes, I agree, for example it should be able to repair the problems (lock file) created after a crash, like synaptic does [03:01] and for example [03:01] it just crashed on me [03:01] TheBearded1_: ahhhhh that's different :) [03:01] adept installer is just for the most common apps :) [03:01] I was talking about adept-manager [03:01] oh [03:01] that's the complete one, for advanced users [03:01] common packages == firefox, gaim, menu editor, calculator ?? [03:02] "add/remove programs" is just for your mother [03:02] TheBearded1_: there are more packages than this [03:02] when i click unsupported packages, well there used to be, now it just crashes [03:02] you can check "unsuported" and you'll see the full list [03:02] and if i remember right when I click unsupported it shows a bunch of gnome packages [03:03] TheBearded1_: you can choose between gnome and kde packages [03:03] but yes that needs improvement too [03:03] adept is composed of 4 apps : [03:03] adept-install, that we can call from scripts to install one package [03:03] see this is what i want to be able to do, i don't like coming into channels and bitching, i like coming into channels, bitching, fixing it, and then coming back with a patch === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:04] hehe I can understand you on that point [03:04] the problem is that mornfall is alone to maintain and improve 4 apps.... quite a big job for just a humain personn [03:05] he his asking for help for month, so if you can do it, he'll be *very* happy [03:05] i got pissed at the ubuntu people because i was like "i wanna help i wanna help", so they sent me to this list of a bunch of crappy programs that hadn't been packaged yet [03:05] and adept suite is the big thing we have to improve in my opinion [03:05] and I was like but I want to package this, NO NO NO NO ONLY FROM THE LIST [03:06] TheBearded1_: yes, indeed, concerning a distro, most of the stuff is packaging [03:06] TheBearded1_: when was it ? [03:06] maybe.....6 months ago, 7 at the most [03:06] which channel ? [03:07] that's strange......... unless you came during a special merging or debugging session, I don't see any reason you can't package want you want to.... [03:07] don't remember exactly, but i really just got the feeling like i was invading into a bunch of 12 year olds' clubhouse, kind of this do our special handshake or leave thing [03:07] that's free software ;) [03:07] TheBearded1_: maybe it was on #ubuntu [03:07] and yes, most have 12 years old :) [03:07] on -devel channels, that a bit different [03:08] well the point is it is 3 am in france, time to bed to me :) [03:08] TheBearded1_: ready to come backl tomorow so that you can expose your wishes and projects/plans to contribute ? [03:08] what time, err, and what time zone [03:08] can be interesting [03:09] i can be on, from 8am-5pm Central Timezone US [03:09] TheBearded1_: when you want, the channel is active between 8 utc to midnight utc [03:09] about [03:09] that's perfect, I'll be there and most other kubuntu devs too [03:10] france == UTC+2 than right? [03:10] seya tomorow then :) [03:10] yes [03:10] k === Tonio_ beds === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@72.160-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm62.omega21.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121702.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@69-167-76-107.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:20] whoa [06:20] Riddell: you've seen last kdesu commit? [06:28] "add --with-sudo-kdesu-backend configure switch [06:28] instead of hardcoding stuff in a couple of files" === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-133.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:30] work -> [06:33] who broke fglrx again ? grrr [06:34] probably another missing abi bump? [06:36] so it seems [06:36] should be fixed soon im guessing [07:01] imbrandon: you see the "kde-look.org" bug pop up today for wallpapers? [07:01] huh ? no [07:01] guess not === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:12] well, i marked it duplicate of another ;) === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.91.29] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:17] nixternal: heya [07:18] woohoo...hiya Hobbsee!!! [07:18] g'day mate! [07:18] just talked to my daughter's god mother and she said that to me [07:18] says the weather is just lovely in Sydney right now [07:19] indeed :) [07:23] Tonio_: how'd the kicker bug go? === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p549550C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [i=jeX6KVYe@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [i=xNuVKKYm@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:03] Tonio_: you're great! thanks for a working kicker again :D === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:06] Hobbsee, hows 3.5.5 [08:06] ? [08:08] imbrandon: good, except for the kdesu bug. everything else works, due to tonio. [08:08] Hobbsee: ppc's package are ready? [08:09] freeflying: no idea, doubt it [08:11] Hobbsee: thanks :) [08:15] cool , are Tonio_ packages update on kubuntu.org ? [08:15] Hobbsee, ^^ [08:15] imbrandon: yep. [08:17] coll [08:17] cool === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-193.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [n=froud@dsl-145-26-85.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rraphink is now known as raphink === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:34] hi! are there any kubuntu-related mailing listst? [09:35] on kubuntu.org there is no reference to any [09:36] serzholino: you can find the list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ [09:40] oh, thanks. it would be great if this page be accesible from kubuntu.org too. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:47] kwwii_: btw, thanks for kdm fix for large fonts! [09:48] Lure: so it is fixed on your machine? [09:48] kwwii_: yep - it looks nice now! [09:48] serzholino: they're listed on the support page, where would you expect them to be listed? [09:49] Lure: cool, thanks for catching that [09:49] kwwii_: "kubuntu branded kmenu icon" what plans for that? I've always left the kmenu icon to be just the kde logo to keep upstream branding strong [09:50] kwwii_: are powermanager icons now final (the one's in svn)? We will probably need to have another upload soon (if we address KUniqueApplication/dcop issue) [09:50] Lure++ that's on my todo but if someone else wants to take it over please do [09:50] it's fiddly though [09:50] Lure: hehe, actually I started yet another version, but we could use the current ones without major problems, I think [09:51] Riddell: I know, that is why I waited till the end to make it :-) [09:51] Riddell: Tonio_ volunteered yesterday [09:51] Riddell: if we don't use it, it is no big deal in my opinion [09:51] Riddell: but several people have asked for one [09:52] Riddell: it would be good if we would at least include it, even if not by default - so people like me can switch to full Kubuntu look ;-) [09:52] kwwii_: if we maintain kubuntu-default-settings in bzr would you use that? i.e. would it make the process easier than e-mailing/irc pinging me [09:53] Lure: oh we'll definately include it [09:53] Riddell: definitely [09:54] Tonio_: ok with us maintaining kubuntu-default-settings in bzr under the kubuntu-members launchpad group? === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-251-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:55] yea i liek the idea of the kmenu using a logo , as there really isnt any other branding on the desktop [09:56] but would be good if its easy to change [09:56] kwwii_, !!!!!!!!!!11 [09:56] lol [09:56] Riddell, sounds good to me ( w.r.t bzr ) [09:56] imbrandon: system menu icon has a kubuntu logo on it [09:56] imbrandon: I think you drank too much mt. dew [09:56] kwwii_, haha [09:57] Riddell, it does? heh i never seen that untill now ( screen is too small to really be seen ) heh [09:57] I think I'll have to take lots of irn-bru to the summit so I can wean imbrandon of that mountain dew nonsense [09:57] wow , i really never did notice that, but it is good to brand kubuntu imho [09:58] irn-bru ? [09:58] several people have expressed the desire to see the logo on the wallpaper (which I am totally against) [09:58] kwwii_: what's wrong with logo on wallpaper? [09:58] so maybe having it in the kmenu would be enough [09:59] yea i dont like it on the walpaper but the kmenu would be nice as ok we're NOT apple/ms/ubuntu/suse but if you look all of them do it ;) [10:00] Riddell: well, a) mark says don't do it b) if we use it, it would have to part of the overall design, not just overlayed on an existing design [10:00] infact have you seen the new vista start button ? looks ALOT like KDE ( even the windeco looks like dapper crystal ) [10:01] have a peek http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/vista.jpg [10:01] no more "start" just a logo like KDE/GNOME/Apple [10:01] heh [10:02] the blue arrows could be from crystal [10:02] that panel background is a lot like ours [10:02] is it just me, or is vista gaudy as all hell? [10:03] Riddell, yea thats not the default pannel bg for vista, the normal one is transparent [10:03] the user image is out of place i think [10:03] freeflying: Hi, set's see when one of the pkg-kde admins turns up to add you :) [10:03] nixternal, thats not the user image, it changes when you hover over an app to the app icon [10:03] allee: :) [10:03] ahh, evern more useless...like the freakin' icon isn't enough [10:04] yea vista is looking more and more like KDE4 every time i see it [10:04] even the address bar, did you notice thats liek the one in KDE4 blogs Riddell [10:04] like* [10:05] to me it looks more and more like windows xp with windowblinds [10:05] i wish i still had that link, it was on p.k.o not to long ago [10:06] with the address bar mockup === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:06] for a second i thought that garbage can had a kubuntu logo on it [10:07] heh, imbrandon, you know that stupid msa logo everyone has been talking about looking like the ubuntu logo? [10:07] yes ? [10:07] i totally forgot about that...the downers grove office where i was at, that was the main project there...we all had t-shirts with that logo and i totally didn't even catch it [10:08] and becouse the OS is garbage dosent mean it looks ugly nixternal [10:08] it looks ugly to me ;) [10:08] allee: could you add a pointer to your kde extras team page onto the ubuntuWeeklyNewsletter? [10:08] i shouldn't say ugly, because some of the graphics are nice..but that color scheme is horrid, and it looks cluttered [10:08] nixternal, what they dident look at was that the MSA logo predates ubuntu [10:09] i would be closterphobic running that ;) [10:09] oh ya..i worked there from 2002-2005, and that was the logo the entire time [10:10] oh i used to hate those kiosks they had with that too..it had like children of the corn type laughing and giggling [10:10] freaky stuff === imbrandon will be bringing 2 cases of mt dew to the summit just to share with Riddell [10:11] heh [10:11] heh [10:11] scary [10:11] Hobbsee, [02:57] I think I'll have to take lots of irn-bru to the summit so I can wean imbrandon of that mountain dew nonsense [10:11] ;) [10:11] hah [10:11] Riddell: sounds good. === Hobbsee wonders waht irn-bru is === imbrandon just dosent know what irn-bru is [10:13] hrmm...is that the iron stuff? my x-wife talked about some funky drink before and it sounds familiar [10:13] hehe [10:13] Riddell loves it [10:14] it tastes like a mt dew which someone put a nail in weeks before, if you ask me :-) [10:14] hah === Hobbsee will just drink coke, if she ever makes it. [10:15] hahahaha [10:15] ya, that is the iron stuff then [10:15] that is the exact phrase i think my x said as well [10:16] im actually drinking mt. dew now, only cuz i ran out of dr. pepper === ajmitch is drinking nothing but water [10:18] hum Riddell you know about these qt/non-qt plugins stuff in qt4 ? [10:18] err 4.2 [10:18] quote "Qt 4.2 allows developers to create Qt plug-ins for use with non-Qt applications." === nixternal beds [10:22] g'nite all! [10:22] gnight nixternal === windshear [n=Alain@vpn-wh.rz-zw.fh-kl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:24] imbrandon: nope [10:25] ahh okies, i was just reading the release feature [10:25] s [10:25] Hello [10:25] If you use the install script in kubuntu 6.10 life cd and you have entered all the requested data you get to the -Ready to install- screen. This shows you the summary of the necessary info you provided to install kubuntu. (Language, Keyboard layout... till grub). [10:25] Then there is a note: If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks. [...] [10:25] But unfortunately there are no changes listed below eventhough I told the script to format 2 partitions. [10:25] In 6.06 the changes were listed correctly. [10:26] windshear: I've seen that, I'll make sure to investigate it before RC === Hobbsee pokes Riddell [10:27] do we really have a meeting tomorrow? well, your today? === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:28] bout ~12 hours [10:28] Hobbsee: yes, afraid so [10:28] Riddell: right... === Hobbsee wonders if she has to be there === Hobbsee might be asleep :P [10:29] not unless you have stuff on the agenda [10:29] right. 1 agenda item. poor. [10:29] from Tonio_, not from myself === Hobbsee wonders what will be discussed [10:30] Riddell tanks, so is it gui only? I mean does it format the right partitions? [10:30] apart from that [10:30] windshear: it does format them yes. it's curious because the message displays correctly on powerpc. I'm curious to know if ubuntu/i386 has the same problem [10:32] Riddell I could try it - if you want me to do it- [10:32] windshear: please, that would be very useful [10:33] Riddell ok, but it takes me some time [10:36] http://sinecera.de <--the first version of the basic layout for my new site...ideas? [10:37] kwwii_: looks totally lovely [10:38] Riddell: thanks :-) [10:38] kwwii_, looks good man [10:40] Riddell: I thought about adding a discussion about the final graphics to the meeting tonight...get a feeling for what is the most important stuff to still include, as well as discuss the website graphics [10:41] sound like a good idea or a waste of time? [10:42] kwwii_: sounds good [11:03] Riddell yes the problem is also in ubuntu 6.10 beta [11:04] windshear: yay! means it's not my fault :) [11:04] :) [11:04] windshear: file a bug on ubiquity then, kamion is usually pretty responsive [11:05] hm, where? [11:06] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug [11:08] ik, thx [11:09] ik=>ok [11:09] so i report it as a bug in the ubiquity package [11:10] yes [11:11] ok, reported, its bug Bug #64142 [11:11] Malone bug 64142 in ubiquity "installer - ready to install- screen incomplete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64142 [11:12] but there is another bug in the kubuntu installer that is not present in ubuntu [11:13] what's that? [11:13] if I select "manually partition table" i get to a screen I can see all the partitions on the harddisk [11:13] I have the following partition table: [11:14] /dev/sda1 ntfs [11:14] /dev/sda2 extended [11:15] /dev/sda5 ntfs in extended [11:15] /dev/sda3 ext3 [11:15] /dev/sda4 linux-swap [11:23] no wait [11:24] its correct [11:24] i was confused because of the numbers in front of the partition [11:25] they don't match the partition number [11:25] by the way Riddell, what do you need the partition mumber for [11:26] ubuntu doesn't even display the numbers [11:29] Riddell: Do you have unfilled proposals dor SoC? [11:30] I'm looking for project proposals for CodeYard students [11:30] windshear: doesn't display where? [11:30] sebas: yep [11:30] plzsendme! :> === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.157] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:47] sebas: various things in umbrello. kde version of onboard, port ubiquity to qt 4, port dist-upgrade tool and gdebi to kde === sebas [i=sebas@leviathan.deadlysins.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === sebas [i=sebas@leviathan.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:52] Riddell: Can I have those proposals, so I present them to our students? [11:52] Maybe someone wants to work on them [11:52] sebas: I'll write you an e-mail when I get a minute [11:52] Riddell: Cool === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === GNUro [n=GNUro@host63-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] hi === hunger_ is now known as hunger [12:36] kwwii_: if you're interested, this is going to be the debian wallpaper http://cdd.debian-br.org/~si0ux/artwork/debian/wallpapers/01.png [12:38] Riddell: hrm, the logo would look better if it was actually on the velvety background instead of overlayed === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@37.161-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:22] re [01:23] Riddell on the prepare partitions page [01:30] windshear: what about it? === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-255-110.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:40] " [01:40] Kubuntu Default Settings is now being maintained in bzr with write [01:40] access to anyone in kubuntu-members. [01:40] Riddell: does that mean people who are not developers can modify the package now? [01:41] raphink: yes, e.g. kwwii_ [01:41] hmmm [01:41] raphink: obviously they can't upload, only core-dev can do that [01:41] yes [01:41] so the dput will only work for core-dev [01:41] raphink: and if anyone makes any stupid changes we throw them out of kubuntu-members (or just revert and slap wrist) [01:41] raphink: of course [01:41] hmm I see the point [01:41] can be interesting [01:42] yes, it's an experiment :) [01:43] :) [01:43] is this part of the NoMoreSourcePackages experiment? === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.157] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _froud_ [n=froud@dsl-145-26-85.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:45] raphink: its half way there, the other half I believe is to get rid of dput and have a button on launchpad saying "make this bzr archive into an ubuntu package now" [01:45] which is a lot less hassle than having essentially two revision control systems (archive and bzr) [01:47] arg [01:47] Riddell, you ever compile gcc ? [01:47] know how i can make it NOT try to strip the binarys when making the debs ? [01:48] ( even if its only for me localy ) [01:48] gcc doesn't make debs [01:48] no no , making "gcc debs" [01:48] not gcc to make debs [01:48] oh, no idea [01:48] doko's area [01:48] e.g. /usr/bin/strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file `debian/lib64gcc1-powerpc-cross/usr/powerpc-linux-gnu/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1' [01:49] ahh ok [01:49] i'll poke him [01:49] i'm like <--> this close to have my i386 pbuilder cross compiling for ppc debs [01:49] heh if i can fix that one error [01:50] so " pbuilder-edgy-ppc build *.dsc " will work or s/ppc/x86/g etc ;) === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] good afternoon === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] heya mhb === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpna170.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] anyone tried printing with kde 3.5.5? [02:04] Riddell, nope but i'm gonna install it this afternoon on the amd64 [02:04] so i will try then [02:04] I can test it today as well [02:05] ppc's packages avaliable? === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.157] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:11] it dont think so yet freeflying [02:11] freeflying: I'm afraid not [02:11] if Riddell says there wont be any changes to the packages today ( with reasonable doubt ) i can start builds on my ibook [02:11] it will take most of the day to compile though as its slow ;) [02:12] shouldn't be any changes [02:12] kk [02:13] you dont happen to have a list of the source packages handy so i dont have to rummage the pool do you ? hehe [02:13] Riddell, ^^ [02:14] arts kdeaccessibility kdeadmin kdebase kdeedu kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdepim kdetoys kdevelop kdeaddons kdeartwork kdebindings kdegames kdelibs kdenetwork kdesdk kdeutils kdewebdev [02:14] sweet you rock [02:14] freeflying, i'll start the builds now and ping you and Riddell when they are done === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] imbrandon: need I build some for u? :) [02:20] if you wish, will get it done faster ( but do it in a clean edgy pbuilder so we can put it on kubuntu.org ) [02:21] and let me know what ones you start so we dont do the same ones ;) [02:21] well actualy [02:21]