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banjooie	er, it said to doubleclick the deb to run it	12:11
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banjooie	Once downloaded, double-click on the package to install.	12:11
Dr_willis	now ya know why i hage easyubuntu. :P	12:11
Dr_willis	!easyubuntu	12:11
ubotu	EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.	12:11
Dr_willis	hate. :P	12:11
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Dr_willis	for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu	12:12
Dr_willis	or install it from the shell. :P sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb	12:12
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mabreaux	hello again	12:18
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Dr_willis	moo	12:19
cpk2	rawr	12:21
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Riddell	trappist: want to be an op in this channel?	12:24
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Hawkwind	Riddell: He just left for home, so it'll be a bit before he responds to ya :)	12:25
Dr_willis	Thats no Excuse! he should haev his laptop going in his car!	12:26
Dr_willis	:)	12:26
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Hawkwind	Hah	12:26
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Dr_willis	Thats the kind of dedication this channel needs!	12:26
pierreth	hello, how can I import my audio cd in Amarok?	12:27
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Dr_willis	import? you mean rip to mp3 on the hard drive?	12:28
Raul12	how can i download java runtime for offline install	12:28
Raul12	??	12:28
Dr_willis	!java	12:28
ubotu	To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository	12:28
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windshear	seems as kubuntu 6.10 beta doesn't like my soundcard, a c-media AC97 Audio device.	12:28
windshear	I get error message: Sound server fatal error cpu overload, aborting.	12:28
windshear	In kubuntu 6.06 it worked with no problem.	12:28
pierreth	Dr_willis: yes, like in iTunes	12:28
Dr_willis	Hmm.. i always forget the name of that apt-download-to-a-cd tool	12:28
Raul12	i want to install it offline	12:28
Dr_willis	pierreth, never used itunes.	12:28
Dr_willis	:P	12:28
Dr_willis	in fact.. the extent of my cd ussage.. is pop it in.. run grip.. rip it to ogg format.. put cd away.. :)	12:29
skabner	hi i need to paste some files in /usr/share/amsn/skins but it's not possible	12:29
skabner	can someone help me	12:29
skabner	?	12:29
Dr_willis	whats not possible? or you mean you dont know how.	12:29
pierreth	Dr_willis: In iTunes, you put the cd in the drive, click import in iTunues and it creates mp3 files and add them to your collection	12:29
Dr_willis	pierreth, i use grip for that.. i just like how it works.	12:29
skabner	yes i dont know how	12:30
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skabner	dr willis	12:30
Dr_willis	skabner, sudo cp whatever /usr/share/amsn/skins	12:30
Dr_willis	from the shell - is one way	12:30
pierreth	Dr_willis: you mean I must do this in 2 steps?	12:30
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skabner	ok i'll try that tnx Dr green	12:30
Dr_willis	pierreth, I 'rip' my cds to my mp3 dir.. then play the files with the player.. i cant say tha ive ever messed with amarok much.	12:31
Dr_willis	GRIP rips the cd's almost as fast as i can put them in the drive. :P	12:31
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Hawkwind	Dr_willis: Thank the lord for GRIP :)	12:31
pierreth	Dr_willis: OK, I will try this avenue	12:31
Hawkwind	One of my all time favorite apps	12:31
skabner	try X-CD roast	12:31
skabner	:)	12:31
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pierreth	Dr_willis: Amarok don't seems to have an import fucntion	12:32
cpk2	or how about kaudiocreator?	12:32
Hawkwind	X-cd-roast is a CD burner	12:32
Dr_willis	pierreth, guess that means it cant be done then. :P	12:32
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Hawkwind	pierreth: You do realize you can do it in konqueror too. Put the CD in the drive and navigate to audiocd:/ or media:/	12:32
skabner	dvd and cd burner	12:33
Hawkwind	skabner: Which isn't what he wants	12:33
skabner	it's included with Automatix	12:33
pierreth	Hawkwind: I want more than that. I want to add music to my collection	12:33
Hawkwind	skabner: He's wanting to get the files to his drive and/or an ipod	12:33
cpk2	does kubuntu come with kaudiocreator?	12:33
cpk2	that rips cds	12:33
skabner	ok! ...	12:33
Hawkwind	cpk2: You can install grip very easily	12:33
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cpk2	Hawkwind: yes, but its even easier if something is already installed and in th kmenu	12:34
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Hawkwind	cpk2: As I said, you can do it with konqueror	12:36
pierreth	I have started kAudioCreator, what encoder should I use	12:37
cpk2	Hawkwind: yeah, i suppose that might be easiest, but you would probably want something that looks up a cddb for track names and stuff as it rips	12:37
main2	what is the coolest linux program there is? :P	12:37
main2	(beside 'su' :o O_o :+ )	12:38
cpk2	is there a way to use kill to nicely stop a proc?	12:39
main2	yes	12:39
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Hawkwind	cpk2: kill app or kill PID#	12:39
main2	kill is nice by default, because it sends a 'sigterm' signal	12:39
Hawkwind	It gets nasty when you start using -13 and -9	12:40
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cpk2	and that lets the app clean up?	12:40
main2	if you wanne take down the process hard, use 'kill -9 pid'	12:40
cpk2	oh i know all about -9 =P	12:40
main2	cpk2: if its a good program, it should..	12:40
Hawkwind	Though -9 should only be used in a very last resort	12:40
Raul12	any short cut to view running processes	12:40
Hawkwind	Most apps don't ever require -9 or -13	12:40
Hawkwind	Raul12: top	12:40
Hawkwind	Raul12: Or even ps auxxxx	12:41
tonyr	To kill by appname, use pkill	12:41
KDEfanboy	Raul12: CTLR+ESC in KDE	12:41
Raul12	ok	12:41
Dr_willis	kill -9999999999999999	12:42
Dr_willis	:)	12:43
Raul12	which services can be terminated for memory savin	12:43
Raul12	:D	12:43
Dr_willis	kill --with-extreme-prejudice	12:43
Dr_willis	Raul12, err.. the ones you dont use. :)	12:43
Raul12	extreme-prejudice any software ??	12:43
Raul12	Dr_willis ??	12:44
Dr_willis	Raul12, find services you dont need.. stop them	12:44
Dr_willis	but dont expect a lot of memory saving that way	12:44
Raul12	how to get information about running services ??	12:44
Dr_willis	if you are on a clean install.. then not a lot of services are running	12:45
Dr_willis	cd /etc/rc2.d/ - and see whats normally ran on your system	12:45
Raul12	still any way to get information on services	12:45
Dr_willis	for example i have a --> S25bluez-utils that i dont really need	12:45
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cpk2	right now gkrellm is reporting 205 procs =P	12:46
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cpk2	top only says 100 total though	12:47
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minerodoco	buenas, alguien puede ayudarme, please?	12:47
KDEfanboy	!es	12:47
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	12:47
Dr_willis	im showing 131 in gkrellm	12:47
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Dr_willis	htop shows 103	12:48
Dr_willis	Tasks: 124 total, 2 running, 122 sleeping	12:48
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cpk2	hrmm i think i might of had a memory leak	12:48
cpk2	my actual ram is almost full	12:49
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Hawkwind	cpk2: All depends on how you're reading it	12:49
glj12	hiya all	12:49
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Hawkwind	cpk2: Remember, linux handles RAM the complete opposite of Windows	12:49
glj12	i keep getting this error message when trying to update ANYTHING in adept: "There was an error commiting changes..." blah blah	12:50
cpk2	it says i have 36000k free	12:50
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Arlington	whow is windows using it and how linux ise ot?	12:50
glj12	how do I fix that>	12:50
glj12	?	12:50
cpk2	26000 now =P	12:50
Dr_willis	when in doubt - use the ram as cache...	12:50
Hawkwind	cpk2: It's probably mostly cached, which is a good thing	12:50
glj12	Anyone?	12:51
Dr_willis	thats the linux way	12:51
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glj12	arg, infuriating....	12:51
Hawkwind	cpk2: So the more you have cached, the faster things will run. It only frees ram as it needs it	12:51
Arlington	glj12: what was the erro?	12:51
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glj12	There was an error commiting changes.	12:51
glj12	the usual	12:51
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cpk2	ah ok so i guess I am good with 807000k cached? =)	12:52
glj12	Arlington: do you need the full message? or isn't it fairly generic	12:52
Hawkwind	cpk2: Definitely	12:53
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glj12	how about you hawkwind, have a chance to answer a generic error message? :P	12:53
cpk2	wonder why i have such a big disparity in procs reported by gkrellm and top	12:53
Hawkwind	glj12: I don't use adept, sorry	12:53
glj12	ok	12:53
Hawkwind	I use apt-get from the cli which is just known to work where as most GUI package managers don't, or have issues	12:53
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Hawkwind	cpk2: gkrellm is always going to be off	12:54
shadowr3d	im back everyone	12:54
shadowr3d	hawkwind omg	12:54
glj12	let me give you that error message hawkwind	12:54
Hawkwind	cpk2: Just not by that far usually	12:54
shadowr3d	hello hawkwind	12:54
Hawkwind	shadowr3d: Hey	12:54
shadowr3d	remember me u helped me with my sound problem	12:55
cpk2	well i suppose it isnt really anything to be concerned with	12:55
Hawkwind	cpk2: For instance, my gkrellm shows 113 and top shows 103	12:55
shadowr3d	nevermind im meant wine problem	12:55
Hawkwind	shadowr3d: I did ?	12:55
shadowr3d	yeah my wine problem	12:55
Hawkwind	Ahhh, yeah wine maybe. I know very little about getting sound to work when it doesn't work :P	12:55
cpk2	glj12: you could try getting packages with apt-get	12:55
glj12	Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase-dev_3.5.2-0ubuntu27_i386.deb Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)	12:55
glj12	E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?	12:55
glj12	thats what it says with apt-get	12:55
cpk2	glj12: did you try both of those?	12:55
shadowr3d	you helped me manage repositries	12:55
Hawkwind	glj12: sudo apt-get update	12:56
glj12	i did	12:56
shadowr3d	no hawkind	12:56
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Hawkwind	glj12: Can you paste your sources.list to http://pastebin.ulteo.us so we can see it	12:56
glj12	where is it	12:56
Hawkwind	glj12: /etc/apt/sources.list	12:56
shadowr3d	only if they made a buddy list for konversation	12:56
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menace_	!adept fix	12:56
shadowr3d	hawkwind will so be on it	12:56
ubotu	adept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB	12:57
menace_	how do i unlock adept? i can never remember the command	12:57
Hawkwind	!adept crash fix	12:57
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	12:57
shadowr3d	i like windows now	12:57
cpk2	shadowr3d: address book via konversation?	12:57
menace_	thank you hawkwind	12:57
Hawkwind	menace_: You're welcome	12:57
shadowr3d	huh	12:57
shadowr3d	cpk2 what do u mean	12:57
Admiral_Chicago	is there a way i can get a script to run automatically every hour or so?	12:58
cpk2	shadowr3d: add people to "friends" in konversation	12:58
shadowr3d	how do u do that	12:58
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glj12	http://pastebin.ulteo.us/134	12:58
Admiral_Chicago	i keep having to kill compiz because its got a memory leak and i'd like to just automate that to do it every hour	12:58
glj12	that right?	12:58
shadowr3d	please tell me	12:58
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glj12	Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/134	12:58
shadowr3d	please	12:58
cpk2	right click a name and go to address book associations	12:58
Hawkwind	glj12: Looking now	12:58
shadowr3d	ok	12:58
glj12	mmk	12:58
shadowr3d	ooooooh	12:59
Hawkwind	glj12: Hmm, all looks good there	12:59
glj12	yeah	12:59
Hawkwind	glj12: Can you run a sudo apt-get update and then if there are any warnings/errors paste the entire thing to the http://pastebin.ulteo.us	12:59
menace_	libqt-perl-----java keeps asking if this is installed...would it be a good idea to install it?	12:59
shadowr3d	gtg	12:59
admin__	# xbins	12:59
glj12	ok	12:59
shadowr3d	i like windows now sorry kubuntu	12:59
admin__	why?	01:00
menace_	lol	01:00
admin__	kubuntu is amazing	01:00
shadowr3d	i havent used kubuntu in 4 months i think	01:00
windshear	Hello	01:00
windshear	If you use the install script and you have entered all the requested data you get to the -Ready to install- screen. This shows you the summary of the necessary info you provided to install kubuntu. (Language, Keyboard layout... till grub).	01:00
windshear	Then there is a note: If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks. [...]	01:00
windshear	But unfortunately there are no changes listed below eventhough I told the script to format 2 partitions.	01:00
windshear	In 6.06 the changes were listed correctly.	01:00
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admin__	hey	01:00
admin__	btw	01:00
shadowr3d	i finally got my sound to work in xp YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!	01:00
admin__	does anyone not how I can change channels in koversation?	01:00
shadowr3d	Goodbye hawkwind and everyone else	01:00
menace_	later shadow	01:00
admin__	byw	01:01
admin__	bye*	01:01
shadowr3d	type /list	01:01
shadowr3d	admin_	01:01
shadowr3d	type /list	01:01
admin__	thanxs	01:01
shadowr3d	no prob	01:01
admin__	im used to MIRC in windows	01:01
shadowr3d	o	01:01
shadowr3d	never heard of it	01:01
glj12	Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/135	01:01
pierreth	Dr_willis: My extraction is on the way	01:01
Admiral_Chicago	admin__, /join?	01:01
Admiral_Chicago	or click on the channel	01:02
shadowr3d	gtg i have dentist appointment im getting my teeth cleaned	01:02
Hawkwind	glj12: Ok, here's what you need to do	01:02
shadowr3d	yaahoooo	01:02
glj12	yay, k	01:02
shadowr3d	goodbye	01:02
Hawkwind	glj12: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list	01:02
admin__	thats for servers	01:02
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Hawkwind	glj12: Replace kwrite with your favorite editor of choice of course	01:02
admin__	im talking about channels buddy	01:02
shadowr3d	see ya hawkwind	01:02
shadowr3d	hawkwind?	01:03
Hawkwind	glj12: Then on the sources that have us.archive.ubuntu.com make it just archive.ubuntu.com	01:03
Hawkwind	shadowr3d: See ya	01:03
shadowr3d	yay'	01:03
shadowr3d	bye	01:03
admin__	darn	01:03
admin__	i cant find one called efnet?	01:03
admin__	nay ideas?	01:04
glj12	ok, cool	01:04
admin__	any8	01:04
glj12	trying that now	01:04
Hawkwind	admin__: What are you looking for exactly ?	01:04
glj12	nope, same thing	01:04
glj12	brb	01:04
Hawkwind	glj12: Did you edit the file ?	01:04
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Hawkwind	glj12: If so, then you need to do a sudo apt-get update for it to pull down the new information	01:04
admin__	guys	01:05
admin__	any help here?	01:05
cpk2	admin__: /list is only going to show you channels on the servers you are connected to	01:05
glj12	yeah	01:05
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glj12	i did all that	01:05
glj12	i got the same errors	01:05
admin__	so how can I connect to more?	01:05
Hawkwind	admin__: What are you looking for exactly ?	01:05
Hawkwind	glj12: Then you probably didn't save the file	01:05
glj12	i replaced all, (8 instances)	01:05
admin__	efnet	01:05
glj12	i did..	01:05
Arlington	!christmas	01:05
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about christmas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:05
glj12	ctrl s	01:05
glj12	and pressed save button	01:06
cpk2	admin__: same way you connected to freenode	01:06
Hawkwind	admin__: http://efnet.org and look on their site	01:06
Arlington	goodnight folks	01:06
Hawkwind	glj12: You did edit it as sudo/root, correct ?	01:06
Hawkwind	glj12: Open the file again and make sure your changes took place	01:06
glj12	i copied and pasted what you had said to type	01:06
glj12	i just did	01:06
glj12	just checked again	01:07
Hawkwind	glj12: You opened the file again and the us. part is gone ?	01:07
glj12	yes..	01:07
Hawkwind	glj12: Run sudo apt-get update again and paste it all to the pastebin	01:07
glj12	ok	01:07
admin__	thanx	01:07
admin__	i got it i think	01:07
glj12	h/o, need to get a connection elsewhere, brb	01:07
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glj12	back	01:08
glj12	mmmk	01:08
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glj12	let me repaste it there for ya bud	01:09
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glj12	Hawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/136	01:10
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glj12	??	01:12
glj12	am i even connected	01:12
Skrot	yes	01:12
glj12	oh cool	01:12
Skrot	Are you using a proxy or something?	01:13
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glj12	no	01:13
glj12	i just disconnected	01:13
glj12	and i can never tell when i am on or not	01:13
glj12	=/	01:13
Skrot	I was thinking about the paste ;)	01:14
glj12	so uh... Hawkwind, ya there?	01:14
glj12	heh	01:14
Skrot	Wondering why it tries to connect localost:4001	01:14
NotWired	if i've installed kubuntu from a base ubuntu install, is there an easy way to remove all the ubuntu / gnome related libs and apps i don't need?	01:14
glj12	mmmm	01:14
BonBonTheJon	NotWired: yes, google for kubuntu pure kde, I have seen a site about it	01:14
NotWired	thank you BonBonTheJon!	01:15
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pierreth	how can I encode my music to I can read it on an ipod?	01:16
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glj12	Hawkwind dissapeared. :(((\	01:17
pierreth	the free audio formats are not supported	01:17
BonBonTheJon	pierreth: you can rip to mp3	01:17
zorglu_	woiw i love the internet :)	01:18
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pierreth	BonBonTheJon: I do not have this choice with KAudioCreator	01:18
shadowr3d	how do i erase kubuntu	01:18
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shadowr3d	ubotu erase kubuntu	01:18
BonBonTheJon	pierreth: make sure to install lame (liblame?), it handles mp3's	01:18
zorglu_	i need to learn about doing business, and i dont.... but... standford makes video and audio of course about this :) that i can listen to for free from my home	01:18
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about erase kubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:18
zorglu_	how nice if this internet	01:18
zorglu_	HTANKS JOHN POSTEL	01:19
shadowr3d	anyone know how to delete kubuntu	01:19
Hawkwind	glj12: It appears you don't have a net connection on that box or something is messed up somewhere	01:19
zorglu_	all repeat after me :)	01:19
glj12	i vote for second idea	01:19
shadowr3d	anyone at all	01:19
glj12	considering the fact that I am talking to you.	01:19
shadowr3d	please help me	01:19
shadowr3d	please	01:19
Hawkwind	glj12: Can you ping the URL ?	01:19
glj12	it happens at home as well.	01:19
glj12	um, h/o	01:19
shadowr3d	please	01:19
BonBonTheJon	shadowr3d: what do you mean delete kubuntu, completely delete it, or just remove kde	01:19
glj12	whats the addy	01:19
Hawkwind	shadowr3d: Please relax a little bit. When someone can help you they will	01:20
Dr_willis	hmm	01:20
shadowr3d	delete it from this computer	01:20
Hawkwind	shadowr3d: Install another OS over top of it	01:20
shadowr3d	ok sorry	01:20
glj12	Hawkwind: I can ping it.	01:20
Dr_willis	nothing like a vague question demanded to be answered. :P	01:20
BonBonTheJon	shadowr3d: delete the linux partitions	01:20
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shadowr3d	i dont really have time to install winxp all over again	01:20
Dr_willis	shadowr3d, you mean totally remove linux then ?	01:20
shadowr3d	yes	01:20
shadowr3d	how	01:20
Hawkwind	glj12: Why is it trying to connect to localhost all the time ?	01:20
glj12	how should I know. =/	01:20
BonBonTheJon	shadowr3d: if you delete kubuntu, do you have another OS installed	01:21
glj12	i am on a college connection atm	01:21
glj12	does that mean anything?	01:21
glj12	no vpn though	01:21
Hawkwind	glj12: Something is messed up in your network settings I'm afraid	01:21
Dr_willis	boot the xp cd. use its rescue mode and the 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr' commands to remove the grub loader. then fdisk and delete the linux partitions	01:21
glj12	damnit.	01:21
shadowr3d	yes	01:21
shadowr3d	i have xp	01:21
shadowr3d	have to brush my teeth nevermind its ok	01:22
Dr_willis	then repartition/format the drives to be whatever filesystem you want.	01:22
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shadowr3d	im a noob	01:22
shadowr3d	sorry i wouldnt know what u would be talking about	01:22
pierreth	BonBonTheJon: OK, I am installing	01:22
shadowr3d	ill leave it on	01:22
shadowr3d	i like it still	01:22
shadowr3d	ok	01:22
Dr_willis	1) remove grub with fixmbr/fixboot 2) use whatever partioning tools you like to delete the partitions	01:22
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shadowr3d	thnx anyways	01:22
shadowr3d	ill remeber that	01:23
shadowr3d	next time i have time to delete it	01:23
shadowr3d	ok	01:23
shadowr3d	goodbye	01:23
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craig_	hello	01:23
Dr_willis	bed time for anyone else? :)	01:24
Hawkwind	Wow, what a character	01:24
Dr_willis	yea.. seen sevarl like that today	01:24
Dr_willis	sort of odd...	01:24
Hawkwind	He's like that everytime he comes in	01:24
Hawkwind	Starting to think he's sort of trolling in ways	01:24
Dr_willis	or a very hyper 12 yr old.	01:25
craig_	anyway a kubuntu could release a proprietary driver version?	01:25
Hawkwind	Hah. Maybe a combination of both	01:25
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Admiral_Chicago	craig_, ?	01:28
jammer_	anyone have compiz working?(kubuntu dapper and kde)	01:28
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pierreth	BonBonTheJon: Can I add aac instead?	01:29
craig_	de craig	01:30
Admiral_Chicago	jammer_, i do	01:30
Admiral_Chicago	kubuntu edgy	01:30
Admiral_Chicago	if you need help ask in #ubuntu-xgl	01:30
jammer_	k, thatnk you Admiral_Chicago, i do need help - having trouble getting them installed	01:31
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craig_	i'd love to see a Kubuntu version with XGL and Nvidia standard	01:34
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Dr_willis	well if Nvidia would quit being such jerks. :)	01:38
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craig_	jerks why?	01:39
MotorCityMadMan	Sysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 2210 MHz (4426 bogomips), , RAM: 391/1518MB, 104 proc's, 11.50min up	01:40
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MotorCityMadMan	Random Fortune: Anyone who thinks UNIX is intuitive should be forced to write 5000 lines of code using nothing but vi or emacs. AAAAACK! -- Discussion on the intuitiveness of commands, especially Emacs	01:41
NotWired	vi rules!	01:41
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nblit	<<good evening, can anyone assist with a wifi problem?>>>	01:43
MotorCityMadMan	!wifi	01:43
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:43
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nblit	been there	01:43
fannagoganna	i was wondering if anyone has gotten google talk to work with kopete on KDE?	01:44
fannagoganna	i am using Kubuntu 5.10	01:44
craig_	ok can anyone point me to where i find how to make kubunto see my windows drive?	01:44
NotWired	yes fannagoganna, i'm doing that	01:44
Dr_willis	Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions --> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume	01:44
fannagoganna	sorry, by google talk i meant the phone calls from other gtalk users	01:45
Dr_willis	read there craig_ :) and bookmark that.	01:45
NotWired	oh, no... sorry then fannagoganna	01:45
nblit	any takers on the wifi problem????? going once	01:45
fannagoganna	how about a more generic sipphone? Has anyone gotten one to work?	01:45
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craig_	rgr	01:45
nblit	any takers on the wifi problem????? going twice	01:46
nblit	need assistance	01:46
nblit	plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz	01:46
Dr_willis	totally depends on the chipset.... :)	01:46
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Dr_willis	and then ya got the 'how the #&@&@ do i configure it now" step 2	01:46
Dr_willis	!network-manager	01:46
ubotu	networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager	01:46
nblit	De_willis i installed it and it does not see my card	01:47
snook353	what is a good dictionary for kde?	01:47
MotorCityMadMan	webster	01:47
snook353	i miss stardict :(	01:47
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mabreaux	nblit: install "hwinfo" and run the command "hwinfo --netcard"	01:48
nblit	Dr_willis when i rght clck network-manager it says "no network devices have been found"	01:48
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nblit	mabreaux: what next?	01:50
enzo_	Can downloading torrents cause issues?	01:50
nblit	enzo_ yes it causes headaces and pnumonia	01:51
enzo_	There is something wrong with the torrents I'm getting or something because I seem to lose my GRUB every so often after using Ktorrent	01:51
nblit	LOL	01:51
nblit	mabreaux: i have the info are we looking for anything in particular??	01:51
Dr_willis	nblit, then you are at step #1 - getting the card working.	01:52
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Dr_willis	enzo_, torrents shouldent be affecting grub.. at all..	01:52
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nblit	Dr_willis: the card is working	01:52
Dr_willis	not much should be affecting grub.	01:52
nblit	Dr_willis: it just wont do any encryption	01:53
Dr_willis	nblit, no clue then.. prove its working.. read up on the other configuration tools I guess.	01:53
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Dr_willis	nblit, cant even do wep eh>?	01:53
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nblit	Dr_willis: iwlist [card name] scan shows me the network	01:53
Dr_willis	now you got the problem clarified and refined at least. :P	01:53
nblit	Dr_willis: when i disable encryption on my wrt54gs with dd-wrt i get an ip address	01:54
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nblit	Dr_willis: its only when i try to use WEP or WPA the darn thing does not get an IP address	01:54
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nblit	Dr_willis: any thoughts?	01:55
Dr_willis	nblit, possibially you are just geting the info entered wrong.. seems to me that some router makers use the various wireless terms a bit loosely.	01:55
Dr_willis	for example one calls a 64bit key a 40 bit key	01:56
Dr_willis	another called the key a 64bit hexdecimal key.. or a 64bit ascii key..	01:56
enzo_	Dr_willis, I'm getting screwed by it	01:56
enzo_	no more GRUB... and apparently no more HDD	01:56
nblit	Dr_willis: are you familiar with the dd-wrt firmware for linksys wrt54gs?	01:56
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Dr_willis	i was entering my key in the ascii area when i needed it in the hexidecimal area.	01:56
Dr_willis	I got a Linksys Mini router.	01:57
Dr_willis	not sure if its the same or not	01:57
nblit	Dr_willis: well i burnt a linux os to my linksys router	01:57
Dr_willis	WRT54GC - is what i got.	01:57
nblit	Dr_willis: called dd-wrt	01:57
Dr_willis	I hgad a wrt54gs and it kept dropping the signal.. so i took it back. :P	01:57
Dr_willis	really ticked me off.	01:58
nblit	Dr_willis: do u have the linksys web pages?	01:58
nblit	Dr_willis: well if you wouls have used dd-wrt os for the device you wouls not have returned it	01:58
nblit	Dr_Willis: check this out >> http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/index.php	01:59
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soulrider	err, im trying ot empty my garbage bin	02:00
soulrider	but it wont free up any space	02:00
soulrider	and it needs to free up space	02:00
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enzo_	HDD is cold	02:02
enzo_	:/	02:02
enzo_	???	02:02
Dr_willis	the extent of my wireless needs are minimal.. 1 machine.	02:02
soulrider	?	02:02
enzo_	GRUB is back	02:02
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Dr_willis	one machine thats rarely needed to be on the wireless network. :)	02:03
Dr_willis	I did put linux on my NSLU2 unit. :)	02:03
soulrider	NSLU2 ?	02:03
enzo_	Dr_willis, from your level of expertice (sp) would you say that I need a new HDD or that I may have a conflict with the way I have Kubuntu setup?	02:03
Dr_willis	enzo_, sounding like a HD issue	02:04
Dr_willis	NSLU2 - a 'fileserver' that uses external usb drives.	02:04
Dr_willis	Neat little toy.	02:04
enzo_	can the live cd reimage everything as I have it on another HDD if I got a replacement?	02:04
Dr_willis	reimage?	02:05
enzo_	MotorCityMadMan, I'm listening to More Human Than Human (Meet Bambi in the King's Harem) from the Covenant soundtrack on my mp3 player	02:05
enzo_	I want to copy everything that I have on my 250GB HDD to a bigger HDD	02:07
Dr_willis	tar can do that with the right options..	02:07
Dr_willis	or just install the 2nd hd. and move /home to it. :) simplier	02:07
enzo_	but I have hda1 as winxp and hda6 as Kubuntu	02:07
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Dr_willis	moving from hda6 to hdb1 - will take a few changed in the various files. like fstab and grubs boot menus	02:08
enzo_	newbie question, but I wanna know... If I move /home what will happen to everything that I have in my other locations ( /usr )	02:09
enzo_	I mean such things as my games, installs, etc	02:09
Dr_willis	nothing.. you moved /home	02:09
Dr_willis	the system wont even notice the differance if you do it right.	02:10
Dr_willis	:)	02:10
Dr_willis	neither will the users	02:10
enzo_	but the other things would still be on hda	02:10
enzo_	and I'm getting rid of hda all together, right?	02:10
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ace	hello can someone help explain to me how to edit the grub menu when my computer boots up	02:12
ace	?	02:12
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enzo_	ace, open up the run command and type kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst	02:13
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soulrider	err, i need some help	02:13
soulrider	i had some free space, i deleted 2 DVDs	02:14
Dr_willis	enzo_, totally NOT...	02:14
soulrider	they wer eon another partition	02:14
Dr_willis	enzo_, you are moving /home to the other hard drive	02:14
soulrider	but now its like they movied to my root	02:14
Dr_willis	enzo_, thats it.	02:14
soulrider	and i cant free that space	02:14
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Dr_willis	soulrider, look in the .trash dirs? whever they are at...	02:14
enzo_	I want to get rid of the HDD that I have now	02:14
soulrider	but my trash sais its empty	02:15
Dr_willis	enzo_, why?	02:15
Dr_willis	more hds are more fun	02:15
Dr_willis	and can give better performance	02:15
enzo_	bad HDD	02:15
tackat	Somebody willing to try the instructions in my blog http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2429 with Kubuntu?	02:15
enzo_	I have 3	02:15
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enzo_	This one in particular is not doing its job	02:15
enzo_	at least not at the same level of performance as before	02:16
Dr_willis	enzo_, id reinstall to the new HD.. and copy the /home over to it then.. however removing/adding hd's can confuse grubs config	02:16
enzo_	Done it already	02:16
Dr_willis	if you are sure that hd is going bad.	02:16
enzo_	seems that way, doesn't it?	02:17
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soulrider	can i use * as a wildcard in seach >	02:17
soulrider	?	02:17
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Dr_willis	what search?	02:17
soulrider	searching for a .trash folder	02:18
soulrider	because kde sais my trash is empty	02:18
Dr_willis	i did locate .trash	02:18
Dr_willis	:)	02:18
soulrider	only get kmail	02:18
soulrider	and unused	02:18
soulrider	but its a .trash file	02:18
Dr_willis	could use some of those 'file size' viewer addons and see what dirs are so huge	02:19
soulrider	like what tool	02:20
soulrider	i dont know any =(	02:20
snook353	Chcfuk22	02:20
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Dr_willis	i got one in the kde menus under the views..	02:21
Dr_willis	not sure what installed it.. or if its in by default	02:21
infornography	Can someone help me with my resolution and refresh rate? I want 1024x768@75Hz. I added the modeline "Modeline "1024x768" 81.54 1024 1064 1168 1352 768 768 770 804 -HSync +VSync" to the monitor section of my xorg.conf file, but when I restart x, nothing happens.	02:21
Dr_willis	theres about 3 differn tones i know of.	02:21
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Dr_willis	RadialMapView, FilesizeView.. and one other.. that i never can rember	02:22
Dr_willis	filelight is another	02:22
Dr_willis	must be a few more out there that i cant rember	02:23
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cpk2	infornography: when nothing happens you mean you cant select it from the gui?	02:25
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infornography	Yeah exactly, it's not selectable	02:25
soulrider	god that app rocks!	02:26
soulrider	and friggin KDe didnt delete lots of stuff i deleted a long time ago	02:26
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cpk2	infornography: sometimes you dont need a whole modeline you can just add a mode	02:26
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soulrider	what an awesome app filelight is	02:26
cpk2	infornography: were there already modelines in xorg?	02:27
soulrider	doe shte red represent my trash Dr_willis ?	02:28
Dr_willis	soulrider, not sure. :P	02:28
Dr_willis	Heh	02:28
Dr_willis	your trashcan icon is showing empty eh?	02:28
infornography	cpk2: You mean the modes in the screen section? There are seceral of those, one for each colour depth. But they don't mention the refresh rate	02:28
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soulrider	i cant believe this, my trash is 14 gb!!!	02:29
KrAmMeR_	ok	02:29
KrAmMeR_	so i still cant play music	02:29
KrAmMeR_	: (	02:29
MotorCityMadMan	how to clean orphaned files kubuntu ?	02:29
soulrider	Dr_willis: aparently this doesnt delete anything, it just moves it	02:30
Dr_willis	orphaned?	02:30
soulrider	how am i supposed to actually erase everything	02:30
MotorCityMadMan	old, usless files	02:30
Dr_willis	soulrider, never noticed the problem. mine deletes stuff	02:30
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MotorCityMadMan	!orphan	02:30
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about orphan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:30
cpk2	infornography: it will hopefully use 75Hz, just add "1024x768" into the color depth you use	02:30
soulrider	14 gb of trash in my system	02:30
soulrider	tells eme mine doesnt :P	02:30
Dr_willis	PEBKAC :)	02:31
soulrider	if i use rm it will not use the trahs right >	02:31
soulrider	it will actually delete	02:31
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Dr_willis	correct	02:31
soulrider	ok	02:31
soulrider	im gonna start deleting with rm then	02:31
MotorCityMadMan	!clean	02:31
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ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about clean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:31
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soulrider	can i use * as a wildcard in rm ?	02:31
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infornography	cp2k: It's already present in all the colour depths	02:31
Dr_willis	soulrider, i think you REALLY should read up a few bash tutorials and how the wildcards work..befor you totally trash the system	02:32
cpk2	infornography: and you cant use 1024x768@75hz?	02:32
Dr_willis	soulrider, such a question is a scary one the way you phrased it. :P	02:32
Dr_willis	and * does work	02:32
cpk2	soulrider: if you press shift delete it will delete with out using trash in gui	02:33
infornography	I can select from anything up to 1280x1024. But always at 60Hz. My monitors ideal setting is 85Hz, but I prefer 70	02:33
soulrider	ahh, cool	02:33
soulrider	thanks cpk2	02:33
infornography	70*	02:33
soulrider	yea	02:33
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infornography	75*	02:33
soulrider	iim a bit dangerous witht he CLI :P	02:33
MotorCityMadMan	maybe this will work: sudo apt-get autoclean	02:33
Dr_willis	i tend to just 'empty the trash :)	02:33
Dr_willis	that deletes it.	02:33
cpk2	infornography: I dunno, i gave up trying to get my monitor to use something higher than 1024x768 because it only used 85hz and it hurt my eyes	02:34
MotorCityMadMan	mabe sudo apt-get autoclean --thehouse	02:34
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MotorCityMadMan	or --backofthehouse	02:35
poseidon	motorcitymadman: but you'd have to do sudo apt-get install robo-maid first.	02:35
MotorCityMadMan	mabe sudo apt-get autoclean --dogpoop	02:36
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infornography	Yeah it's frustrating. It worked perfectly in Slackware using this exact method. Makes no sense to me	02:36
poseidon	sudo apt-get remove dog	02:36
Dr_willis	sudo apt-get me a beer	02:36
MotorCityMadMan	sudo apt-get run --cat	02:36
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poseidon	sudo apt-get install 30tb-hardrive 50gb-ram	02:37
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menace	When i click the frostwire icon to try to open it, it starts off like its gonna run...then it just stops trying....it wont run....i have the same problem with adept, how can i fix this?	02:38
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MotorCityMadMan	menace: increase priority	02:39
menace	how?	02:39
MotorCityMadMan	make it the top dog	02:39
menace	i know that dude	02:39
menace	but how can i do it!?	02:39
MotorCityMadMan	inter into run and look for priority increase	02:40
menace	that makes no sense.	02:40
menace	how do you enter into run?	02:40
MotorCityMadMan	icon right click	02:41
bimberi	man renice	02:41
menace	thanks motor	02:41
menace	bimberi: ?	02:41
MotorCityMadMan	menace: work ?	02:41
menace	im working on it	02:42
bimberi	menace: nvm - that's the cli way ;)	02:42
MotorCityMadMan	or run in shell	02:42
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Celeste	hi	02:43
menace	it still isnt working	02:43
MotorCityMadMan	menace: right clk/put into run dialog/options	02:44
Celeste	Does anyone of you know a _really_ cool KDE desktop (maybe a screenshot) and how to make it?	02:44
Celeste	I have no idea how it could look like, but all my friends at work should say WOW we also want to get linux	02:44
Celeste	it should look damn sexy	02:44
Celeste	just a great desktop	02:44
Dr_willis	kde-look.org has screenshots of various themes/setups	02:45
Dr_willis	and live cd's are very handy for testing things out	02:45
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menace	i did motor	02:46
MotorCityMadMan	super grub iso 4MB http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php	02:46
menace	and i put the priority to full	02:46
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MotorCityMadMan	menace: is RAM low by chance ?	02:47
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menace	256	02:47
menace	but it just started this	02:47
menace	and i only have konq, armarok,and konversation up	02:48
MotorCityMadMan	i have every program running and my sys is smoking	02:49
menace	lol	02:49
MotorCityMadMan	Sysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 2210 MHz (4426 bogomips), , RAM: 921/1518MB, 110 proc's, 1.21h up	02:49
menace	wow	02:49
menace	i with i knew more about amd	02:50
menace	the only amd i used was 8 years ago	02:50
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menace	and i was 7 then so i dont remember much about it	02:50
fatejudger	so what exactly does Zeroconf do?	02:50
menace	it was like 300mhz	02:50
Dr_willis	fatejudger, heh - ive seen that also.. not sure what the heck its for.	02:50
fatejudger	I know it's supposed to do things like detect network printers	02:50
fatejudger	and ssh servers	02:50
fatejudger	and ftp servers	02:50
Dr_willis	or open ports on routers Perhaps?	02:50
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fatejudger	but I can't really get it to do anything	02:51
Dr_willis	no wait - thats Upnp	02:51
fatejudger	I know Apple's implementation, Bonjour, allows people to connect printers to their mac and have it automatically set up on the network	02:51
fatejudger	but as far as I know, my Kubuntu PC does nothing liket hat	02:51
fatejudger	* like that	02:52
BonBonTheJon	anyone know how to extract audio from a .mov file	02:52
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MotorCityMadMan	menace: i have a 10GB swap \| maybe adding more swap my help your machine	02:52
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Dr_willis	the ubuntu devs sort of HATE that idea of anything auto going out to the network.. they like the systems to be as locked down as it can.. so they may have tuff disavled for zeroconf	02:52
Dr_willis	http://zeroconf.sourceforge.net/	02:53
Dr_willis	lets read up on it. :)	02:53
menace	swap is memory on a harddrive used as ram right...or is that shadowing ram?	02:53
CaptainMorgan	if startx returns the errror: XIO: fatal IO error 104 and restartx is a command not found.. an ctrl-alt-bs doesn't do anything... what do I do? (after the login screen it goes to a failsafe terminal or the whole screen is black with only a command prompt)	02:53
fatejudger	Dr_willis: well they did some nice additions to network config for Zeroconf in Edgy	02:53
Dr_willis	menace, unused stuff in ram gets swapped to the hd. then swapped back when needed (i think)	02:53
Dr_willis	It is important to understand that the purpose of zeroconf is not solely to make current personal computer networking easier to use, though this is certainly a useful benefit. The long-term goal of zeroconf is to enable the creation of entirely new kinds of networked products,	02:53
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menace	ok, i have an 80gig harddrive for linux. how can i check how much swap i have?	02:54
Dr_willis	'free' command	02:54
MotorCityMadMan	menace: kinfocenter	02:55
Dr_willis	did you make a swap partition? :)	02:55
fatejudger	why can't we have cool functions on Zeroconf like Bonjour has	02:55
fatejudger	I want my easily connected network printers	02:55
menace	unless the initial installation did it, i dont have a swap partition	02:55
Dr_willis	fatejudger, i cant even figrure out what all its doing..	02:55
fatejudger	it doesn't matter if I already know how to set them up, it's the cool factor that matters	02:55
Dr_willis	fatejudger, cups works very well for me in that area	02:55
Dr_willis	:)	02:55
Dr_willis	but the Ubuntu guys sort of have cups locked down.	02:56
fatejudger	I'm tired of network printers	02:56
fatejudger	Windows never wants to detect CUPS run printers	02:56
fatejudger	or print servers	02:56
Dr_willis	i got a whole.. 1 network printer..	02:56
fatejudger	or anything for that matter	02:56
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Dr_willis	My printserver shares the printer as a Samba printer also. :P	02:56
CaptainMorgan	anyone?	02:57
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Hawkwind	trappist: You around yet ?	02:58
Dr_willis	CaptainMorgan, ive NEVER heard of 'restartx' -- 'startx' yes.. but not 'restartx'	02:59
CaptainMorgan	Dr_willis, yes, but startx returns that error	02:59
fatejudger	Dr_willis: I have THE most trouble sharing Samba stuff	02:59
fatejudger	Dr_willis: and the Ubuntu devels refuse to allow anonymous network browsing	03:00
Dr_willis	fatejudger, it can be tricky.. but ive messed with it so much - ive learned all the tricks	03:00
fatejudger	Dr_willis: they try and extol the virtues of password protecting your shares	03:00
Dr_willis	fatejudger, edit the samba.conf - do what you want	03:00
fatejudger	Dr_willis: yeah, it SOUNDS easy	03:00
Dr_willis	fatejudger, :) i do it all the time..	03:00
Dr_willis	that 'using samba' book thats avial online. is about the only samba referance ive read.	03:00
fatejudger	Dr_willis: bah, samba.conf is like my ex-girlfriend, annoying and tempermental	03:00
Dr_willis	and a LOT of time spent twiddling with the samba.conf file	03:00
Dr_willis	i rarely hae problems with it.. i slapped it down a few too many times	03:01
fatejudger	Dr_willis: I think I'm going to buy one of those fancy printers with built-in print servers anyway	03:01
fatejudger	I love those things	03:02
Dr_willis	fatejudger, i got a $30 printserver adaptor for my old laser parrallelport printer.	03:02
Dr_willis	dlink is the brand..works ok.	03:02
Dr_willis	once i learned the right info to put into the gnome/kde printer config tools	03:02
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fatejudger	I work at Best Buy, so I get a discount on those fancy wireless print server things from Linksys	03:02
Dr_willis	ip# and port 9100 - and away it goes	03:02
fatejudger	but those printers are pretty tempting	03:03
Dr_willis	fatejudger, so you get them at the cost that i can go somewhere OTHER then B.B and get them.. :P	03:03
Dr_willis	B.B here in town - is such a rip-off its nasty.. sad to say.	03:03
Dr_willis	and tell your boss's i said that. :)	03:03
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fatejudger	Dr_willis: heh, it's not really that bad	03:05
fatejudger	Dr_willis: except for USB cables	03:05
CaptainMorgan	no one?	03:05
Dr_willis	fatejudger, it depends on the item.. but just last week.. they had a DVD-DL burner.. that was 2x the cost i could get it elseware.. :P	03:06
Dr_willis	It pays to watch for sales. :P	03:06
fatejudger	yeah	03:06
fatejudger	they have them all the time	03:06
Dr_willis	I did manage to get 2 rebates on my laptop from there.	03:06
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fatejudger	we don't do rebates	03:06
Dr_willis	and they had a much nicer return policy	03:06
fatejudger	at least not on computers	03:06
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fatejudger	yeah, our return policy is amazingly nice	03:07
Dr_willis	They had them when i got my laptop.. and HP had one also.. so i got 2 :)	03:07
Dr_willis	then it broke.. returned it.. got a new.. and new rebate forms.. sent them in again! :)	03:07
fatejudger	I've had customers return $1500 desktop systems, just because they "didn't have good luck with it"	03:07
Dr_willis	heh. :)	03:07
fatejudger	and exchanged it with the exact same computer	03:07
fatejudger	the exact same one	03:07
fatejudger	no joke	03:08
Dr_willis	Lol. :)	03:08
fatejudger	there was nothing wrong with the original one	03:08
Dr_willis	its a "built on monday' computer.	03:08
Dr_willis	I had a stroke of bad luck with my prev laptop..	03:08
fatejudger	so now they have the same computer, and we have open box items	03:08
fatejudger	something broke?	03:08
Dr_willis	#1 had bad NIC conector.. #2.. the Hinges kept breakng... got a different brand.. it SUCKED for linux.. first was great...	03:08
Dr_willis	took IT back.. wanted my $$ back.. got stuck with the restocking fee.. so for $100 or so i 'rented' a laptop for over a year.	03:09
Dr_willis	:)	03:09
Dr_willis	Then realized they managed to give me extra rebates..	03:09
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Dr_willis	and dident charge me for some acessories.	03:10
Dr_willis	doh heh heh	03:10
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Dr_willis	GOt a Little Turion Based Compaq laptop here now.. its decent at linux.	03:10
fatejudger	lol	03:11
fatejudger	compaqs suck...	03:11
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Dr_willis	everything sucks in one way or another.	03:11
fatejudger	eh, I'd be more inclined to buy a Toshiba or HP	03:11
Dr_willis	$500 laptop..	03:11
fatejudger	shit dude	03:11
Dr_willis	i dont expect much..	03:11
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Dr_willis	it does its job.	03:11
fatejudger	are you really that poor that you can't pay an extra 200 bucks and get something much better?	03:11
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Dr_willis	It was More.. $500 was price after all the rebates	03:12
Dr_willis	or coruse its also a 1 1/2 years old now.	03:12
Dr_willis	one of the first Turions out	03:12
Dr_willis	its lasted longer then my other laptops so far.	03:12
fatejudger	we had a Toshiba Core Duo with a gig of RAM on sale for 729 the other week	03:12
fatejudger	that's probably the best deal I've ever seen there	03:13
Dr_willis	this was befor core duos were even known :)	03:13
fatejudger	heh	03:13
Dr_willis	im seeing advertised laptops with 12+ hrs battery life now.	03:13
Dr_willis	Laptops and notebooks come and go like flies at a garbage dump, sometimes with less apparent reason than the flies.	03:13
fatejudger	I'm just waiting for those Core 2 Duos to become cheaper before I go and blow 1k on one	03:13
Dr_willis	----> artical on laptops at --> http://www.mobilityguru.com/2006/10/02/who_designed_the_latest_model/	03:13
Dr_willis	i dont plan on getting another laptop for some time	03:14
fatejudger	I've got this shitty Dell laptop right now	03:14
fatejudger	the battery lasts a whopping 40 minutes	03:14
fatejudger	by the time the damn thing boots up, its battery is almost half dead	03:14
Dr_willis	Lol. thts my old HP HUGE laptop with a 9700 video card... and 16 lb weight.	03:14
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Dr_willis	I went 'lighter' this time.. about 7 lbs i think	03:15
fatejudger	I just use the computers at my college's library now	03:15
fatejudger	with a USB flash drive in hand	03:15
fatejudger	and my copy of OO.o installed	03:15
fatejudger	I bet I could even boot Linux off of it	03:15
menace	whats OO.o?	03:15
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Dr_willis	openoffice.org	03:16
menace	ok	03:16
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fatejudger	I'm just waiting for KOffice to get ported over to Windows	03:17
fatejudger	that'll be the day	03:17
fatejudger	probably the same damn day Amarok is ported	03:18
foo	hm, my sound stopped working. Any ideas? I tried to restart alsa-utils but that didn't do anything. lsof\|grep dsp returned nothing. hmm	03:18
foo	Hawkwind: help me!	03:19
Hawkwind	foo: I thought you ran Ubuntu and not Kubuntu :P	03:20
foo	Hawkwind: f ubuntu	03:20
Hawkwind	Huh ?	03:20
foo	Hawkwind: What I said	03:20
CaptainMorgan	is there dual monitor support for K/Ubuntu?	03:20
foo	f ubuntu.	03:20
gnomefreak	Hawkwind: F ubuntu he said as in fudge ubuntu	03:21
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foo	oh, err... no	03:21
foo	Fluxbox ...	03:21
foo	Fluxbox Ubuntu :P	03:21
Hawkwind	CaptainMorgan: Certainly. I'm using Nvidia and TwinView right now	03:21
gnomefreak	oh	03:21
foo	Ah, no, I didn't mean it that way	03:21
Hawkwind	He runs Ubuntu	03:21
foo	haha	03:21
Hawkwind	He's playing and trolling :P	03:21
CaptainMorgan	Hawkwind, what about ati 9800 pro?	03:21
foo	Yeah, ubuntu with fluxbox	03:21
CaptainMorgan	Hawkwind, out-of-the-box?	03:22
foo	gah, an alsa problem should be the same. shrug	03:22
Hawkwind	CaptainMorgan: Best of luck to ya there. ATI is nothing but a pain. But you want Xinerama	03:22
Hawkwind	CaptainMorgan: Simple edit of the xorg.conf file if you have Nvidia	03:22
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Hawkwind	abattoir: Good evening!	03:22
CaptainMorgan	Hawkwind, but a simple edit of xorg.conf for ati doesn't work?	03:24
CaptainMorgan	I assume	03:24
Hawkwind	CaptainMorgan: Getting ATI drivers installed is nothing but a pure pain.	03:24
Hawkwind	I know nothing about ATI since I won't touch them since they really don't have native drivers	03:25
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CaptainMorgan	thanks Hawkwind ;)	03:26
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TheHighChild	Hey folks, anyone have a widescreen LCD?	03:29
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fatejudger	TheHighChild: yes, 24 inches	03:30
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chewinnnng232	hi guys, anyone knows a website equivalent to the "fedora core installation notes by stanton finley" for the kubuntu distro?	03:31
TheHighChild	fatejudger: nice! I just got a Samsung 20"	03:31
fatejudger	TheHighChild: cool	03:31
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TheHighChild	Not sure how to best configure it	03:31
fatejudger	TheHighChild: is it not displaying the proper resolution?	03:31
TheHighChild	fatejudger: Everything works great. Just wondering how I can get the best settings. If there's an app or anything	03:32
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chewinnnng232	which websites are the best about installing additional software on kubuntu? for instance to install mplayer with all the codecs?	03:33
fatejudger	TheHighChild: as long as it's displaying at the proper resolution, that's all you need to do	03:33
fatejudger	TheHighChild: if it looks stretched, then it's not displaying at the right rez, and you'd have to change it	03:33
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TheHighChild	fatejudger: Yeah but I'd like it to be the best as to prolong the life as long as possible	03:34
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TheHighChild	fatejudger: That's how it was at first but I googled someone's xorg with working settings and it works fine, but they didn't seem too confident about the accuracy of the settings	03:34
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TheHighChild	It's at the proper 1650x1050	03:35
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chewinnnng232	I am currently looking for websites with detailed instructions on how to install additional software. any suggestions? anyone?	03:37
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jsubl2	chewinnnng232: check out the faq in the /topic	03:38
chewinnnng232	jsub12: thanks i'll check it out	03:38
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chewinnnng232	jsub12: what is /topic, is it on the kubuntu.org site?	03:39
jsubl2	it is an irc command just type /topic	03:40
chewinnnng232	ok thanks	03:40
jsubl2	"/topic" without the quotes	03:40
chewinnnng232	jsub12: the command seems to work but nothing comes up	03:41
jsubl2	chewinnnng232: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions	03:41
chewinnnng232	jsub12: ok thanks i'll sure check it out	03:42
Hawkwind	[ 8:41pm] The Topic For #kubuntu Is Kubuntu Support Channel \| Edgy Beta Released \| FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions \| https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems \| Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ \| Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org \| IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage	03:42
Hawkwind	chewinnnng232: You should have seen that as soon as you joined the channel	03:42
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chewinnnng232	Hawkwind: thanks	03:42
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david__	can i set xwindows to log out after a certain amount of time?	03:45
Hawkwind	david__: With a cronjob you could	03:45
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david__	is that a service i need to run?	03:46
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Hawkwind	No. man cronjob for tons of info or read this page on my forums: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=179.0	03:47
david__	ok thanks	03:47
david__	you gonna write book?	03:47
david__	Linux for dummies?	03:47
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david__	guess ill have to get cronjob	03:48
david__	i don't seem to have any information on it	03:49
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TheHighChild	fatejudger: What font/s do you use?	03:52
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nuku	any hints getting flash player to work under edgy? i installed flashplugin-nonfree but opera/konqueror just show a gray box and firefox crashes...	03:55
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AWOSDev	I want to play MIDI files but can't. First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq. Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound. I can hear the KDE sounds (Waveform) but not MIDI. What could the problem be?	03:58
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canllaith	Heya, is there some kubuntu user here I can get a default kopeterc from ?	04:00
AWOSDev	canllaith sure	04:00
AWOSDev	canllaith where is it? ~?	04:00
canllaith	Depends on how they do things. It's either in `kde-config --prefix`/share/config/kopeterc	04:00
canllaith	Or it's in ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc	04:01
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nuku	canllaith: edgy uses this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25708/	04:03
nuku	(its /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kopeterc :-)	04:03
canllaith	ahhhhh [ChatWindowSettings] is where the tabs option lurks	04:03
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canllaith	thanks, as far as I'm aware kopete hasn't been kconfig xt'd yet so finding those options requires grepping through the sources :)	04:04
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nuku	isn't there some kind of documentation for this?! :/	04:05
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canllaith	No, not really - until I get around to kconfig xt'izing kopete	04:05
canllaith	Or someone else does	04:05
canllaith	I started it, someone else started it, I'm not sure if anyone finished it.	04:06
canllaith	All these config file only settings are only documented in the source	04:06
nuku	wonder why kconfig was not used in the first place :)	04:06
Vouksh	I'm having a little bit of trouble installing Xubuntu on my Thinkpad laptop. You think you guys could help me out?	04:06
canllaith	Because it didn't exist.	04:06
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nuku	thats a point	04:07
canllaith	anyway, thanks. Got the option I wanted :)	04:07
nuku	sure np	04:07
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nuku	hm at least kopete 0.12.2 in edgy seems to use kconfig ;)	04:09
canllaith	Not kconfigxt.... at least, I don't think so	04:10
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canllaith	nah it's not	04:11
canllaith	Since I said I'd do it about a year ago I'm not surprised	04:11
nuku	well have to look into the difference of kconfig and kconfigxt :)	04:12
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nuku	at least read.*Entry gave me 453 hits ;)	04:13
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Blacken	O-kay...strangeness..xorg.conf has DRI enabled, but direct rendering is NOT enabled. ATI Radeon x1300. Anyone know why that may be?	04:14
canllaith	nuku: kconfig xt starts with an XML file that defines all of those configuration classes and then it generates the c++	04:14
canllaith	for an example take a look at kicker.	04:14
canllaith	I drew up the xml files for that about 2 years ago	04:15
nuku	canllaith: yeah just found some nice introduction.. looks sweet :)	04:15
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Blacken	Er, okay. Situation: I have an ATI Radeon x1300 graphics card. I just ran aticonfig --initial. It SAYS that DRI is enabled. But direct rendering remains off.	04:37
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smaggard	there is no such thing as direct rendering, thats why its off	04:38
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Blacken	smaggard: ...	04:38
Blacken	smaggard: Come again?	04:38
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smaggard	iunno i was just makin somethin up	04:39
Blacken	smaggard: Then STFU, please.	04:39
Blacken	Does anyone have any experience with this issue?	04:39
Blacken	I've run through the HOWTOs with no success.	04:39
AWOSDev	!language > Blacken	04:40
smaggard	hahaa ur an idiot because you cant figure out how to enable direct rendering, what a shame	04:40
smaggard	ever heard of google?	04:41
Blacken	smaggard: FOAD, troll. Unlike most of the folks who come in here, I do my homework before asking for help.	04:41
smaggard	so you are saying no one else has had your problem before? wow congratulations	04:42
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Blacken	Look, nitwit. I ran through the bloody howtos, I've done my research, and there's an issue further down the line that I can't seem to locate. Now, like all good GNAA rejects, get back in your cardboard box.	04:44
Blacken	Now--might there be anyone who might have experience with dealing with uncooperative ATI cards and DRI?	04:44
caseyomah	Okay, I'm trying to setup smb shares in KDE, but no users (evidently not even root) have rights to do so (or make more users able to do so)	04:44
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caseyomah	My help from System Settings for file sharing gives an error.	04:45
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Blacken	caseyomah: Any specific error? Might help out those in the know a bit more.	04:46
caseyomah	The file sharing module never ungrays.	04:46
smaggard	i have an hp zv6000 laptop with ati and linux i know exactly what your going through	04:47
smaggard	:D its a little tricky, but not hard at all to figure out	04:47
brydenn	ok i have a bizzare problem. When i open anything and minimize it, it doesnt appear in the kicker bar	04:47
brydenn	i cant maximize it	04:47
brydenn	anyone know what's going on with that?	04:48
smaggard	using default theme?	04:48
AWOSDev	brydenn, try ALT+TAB	04:48
caseyomah	smaggard: Yes.	04:48
brydenn	it works if i do ALT+TAB	04:48
AWOSDev	brydenn, hold down ALT while pressing TAB	04:48
brydenn	but the boxes dont appear in the kicker bar	04:48
AWOSDev	brydenn do you have the task thing on there	04:48
brydenn	the task bar?	04:49
brydenn	i have my KBFX button and a kicker bar	04:49
AWOSDev	brydenn yeah	04:49
brydenn	yes	04:49
brydenn	i have your normal quick launch buttons too	04:49
AWOSDev	brydenn, panel menu->add applet->task bar.	04:49
brydenn	like muahaha	04:50
smaggard	yeah you may not have the taskbar applet actually enabled	04:50
brydenn	there it is	04:50
brydenn	damn musta accidently removed that	04:50
brydenn	thanks AWOSDev	04:50
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AWOSDev	brydenn no problem :)	04:50
AWOSDev	brydenn if you have kids or pets they might have done it :)	04:50
brydenn	haha no no	04:51
brydenn	no kids, but i have a cat	04:51
smaggard	lol its ok we all do stuff like that	04:51
brydenn	yah it's cool	04:51
brydenn	i'm just a windows guy trying to move away into linux :)	04:51
smaggard	LOL	04:51
brydenn	kubuntu seemed to be the right thing	04:51
smaggard	what distro you using	04:51
smaggard	ah kubuntu im guessing	04:51
brydenn	i'm using Kubuntu Edgy	04:51
smaggard	cool	04:51
brydenn	i know it's beta	04:51
brydenn	but i like it	04:51
brydenn	and i'm starting to add some nice eye candy to it hehe	04:52
smaggard	i used gentoo for a long time and i tried out kubuntu and ubuntu server and it was like OMG can it really be this easy!??	04:52
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brydenn	well you're smarter than me	04:52
brydenn	i really wanted to give Gentoo a shot	04:52
brydenn	but the F'n thing never installed right	04:52
brydenn	i literally tried maybe 30 times	04:52
brydenn	i gave up	04:52
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brydenn	with gentoo you get good stability and good optimization (from what i hear)	04:53
smaggard	yeah, gentoo can take even linux masters a LONG time to get going	04:53
brydenn	but i'll pass on the optimization for something that "just works" hehe	04:53
smaggard	with gentoo, you get a distro that uses you instead of you using IT	04:53
brydenn	yah well	04:54
smaggard	i mean you literally have to compile EVERYTHING	04:54
brydenn	i dont wanna fight it	04:54
brydenn	ya i know	04:54
AWOSDev	I'm not really wanting to go to Gentoo because of that	04:54
brydenn	everything is from source	04:54
AWOSDev	I've been with computers since the early 90s, ah DOS...and it scares me.	04:54
AWOSDev	:)	04:54
brydenn	hahaha	04:54
Blacken	Gentoo is painful. Nice for optimized servers, though. Especially if you've got a rack of identical ones.	04:54
brydenn	yah i can see its purpose in that arena	04:55
brydenn	but for the day to day user? probably not	04:55
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smaggard	if you need absolute performance and have days to configure it then yeah its good, but updating is another nightmare	04:55
Blacken	We had maybe twenty minutes of downtime.	04:55
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Blacken	They used RedHat. They are insane.	04:55
smaggard	lol redhat	04:55
Blacken	AWOSDev: It's not that bad, really.	04:55
brydenn	haha	04:55
Blacken	AWOSDev: You just start it...and go away.	04:55
Blacken	For a long time.	04:56
smaggard	if you just start to read the gentoo manual you will see how complex it is.	04:56
AWOSDev	No I mean install it not image it :)	04:56
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brydenn	ok i'm gonna get back to adding some window decorations	04:56
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smaggard	figuring out what use flags you need or dont need is another BS part of gentoo	04:56
brydenn	be back in a few	04:56
smaggard	cya	04:56
Blacken	Kubuntu has a home on my desktop, even if ATI's drivers suck the big one. But Ubuntu...not for servers. Debian's a good server distro--my personal server runs it. But the boxes at school get something on the order of a million (obviously not unique) visits per day.	04:57
smaggard	ubuntu is based off debian..............	04:57
Blacken	smaggard: Yes, but its packaging and distribution channels are a wee bit more unstable.	04:57
smaggard	what???????!!!	04:57
smaggard	ur effn crazy	04:57
brydenn	haha	04:57
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brydenn	glad i'm not in on this one ;)	04:57
smaggard	come back when you learn something	04:58
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Blacken	smaggard: Neg, Not crazy. there are odd, odd changes that sometimes come out of Ubuntu's repositories that the corresponding Debian ones don't have.	04:58
Blacken	Well, no. Crazy, but not crazy in that regard.	04:58
smaggard	whatever	04:58
smaggard	ubuntu has had no problem as a server hosting 16 websites so far	04:59
Blacken	I'm not saying it can't do it.	04:59
smaggard	then what are you saying?	04:59
Blacken	But Debian tends to be a more reliable platform in my experience.	04:59
Blacken	As a desktop user I can handle the occaisonal "whoops, something went casters up" moment.	04:59
Blacken	On a server, I won't take that chance.	04:59
smaggard	thats great	05:00
Blacken	Is it likely that something will break? Naw. Is it more likely, though? Probably.	05:00
smaggard	doubtfully	05:00
Blacken	Gentoo was the choice for the servers at school because it's fast, not 'cause anyone liked compiling it.	05:00
smaggard	if your school chose gentoo as servers they are idiots.	05:01
Blacken	Why?	05:01
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smaggard	gentoo is the LEAST recommended distro for serving, because of its multiple options, configurations, and setup can easily lead to mis-configuration	05:01
Blacken	smaggard: There's a very simple solution to that. Don't misconfigure it.	05:01
smaggard	dont take my word for it, just look on the internet	05:01
smaggard	OMG	05:02
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Blacken	And where the hell are you getting these numbers? "LEAST recommended distro". By you, maybe. I've never seen any serious statistics to back up that position.	05:02
Blacken	This is going to devolve into "omg my distro better than all others," so I'm going to go back to work now.	05:03
smaggard	of course there arent any numbers what do you think they have a poll?	05:03
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smaggard	too many extra steps to get regular apps like sendmail installed	05:03
smaggard	depositories are crap	05:03
doombox	for server ? /vote slackware	05:05
doombox	if you can't run slackware you shouldn't be doing a server..!	05:05
brydenn	ok questions	05:05
brydenn	i'm trying to install a window decroation	05:05
brydenn	and i tried "./configure" and got this error...	05:06
brydenn	checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!	05:06
smaggard	hmm what decoration is it	05:06
brydenn	http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330	05:06
brydenn	that one	05:06
smaggard	dont you add that through the kde theme settings?	05:08
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brydenn	i'm not sure	05:09
brydenn	how do you normally add a window decoration?	05:09
fateisajester	hi everyone. Im kind of new to linux. so you guy will probably see me here alot lol. i just wanted to get to know the mods right now.	05:09
brydenn	a lot is 2 words bro	05:09
smaggard	ummm	05:09
fateisajester	lol	05:09
smaggard	hold on ill download that	05:09
fateisajester	so it is	05:09
brydenn	thanks smaggard	05:10
smaggard	ima get the corona one :D	05:10
brydenn	hehe	05:11
brydenn	i downloaded the nVidia one	05:11
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smaggard	gimme just a sec	05:11
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caseyomah	An error occurred while loading help:/:	05:11
caseyomah	Cannottalktoklauncher	05:11
brydenn	ok	05:11
caseyomah	I get that error when trying to open help.	05:12
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mark_	does anyone know when edgy rc1 is coming?	05:13
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fateisajester	Is this room usually pretty active?	05:13
mark_	yes	05:13
mark_	why fateisajester?	05:13
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smaggard	http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330	05:13
mark_	need help?	05:14
fateisajester	just wondering.	05:14
Dr_willis	yes it is.	05:14
fateisajester	not right now	05:14
Dr_willis	Its quiet.... too quiet!	05:14
Dr_willis	:)	05:14
mark_	#ubuntu is more active	05:14
fateisajester	just trying to get the feel of the roon	05:14
mark_	scary active	05:14
brydenn	smaggard: why'd you post that link again?	05:14
fateisajester	room*	05:14
AWOSDev	Hey Dr_willis!	05:14
mark_	dr willis	05:14
brydenn	Dr_willis:	05:14
smaggard	do you have kwin?	05:14
brydenn	lol	05:14
mark_	tell me the release date of rc1	05:14
brydenn	kwin?	05:14
brydenn	let me check	05:15
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AWOSDev	mark_, October 19th	05:15
mark_	woooo	05:15
AWOSDev	IIRC	05:15
brydenn	smaggard: yah adept manager says it's installed	05:15
smaggard	ok	05:15
mark_	october 19th is the new christmas	05:15
smaggard	h/o	05:15
brydenn	alrihgt	05:16
brydenn	*alright	05:16
mark_	calling people hos isnt allowed on freenode is it?	05:16
Dr_willis	hmm	05:16
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fateisajester	what is "hos"?	05:16
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Dr_willis	Ho Ho Ho!	05:16
mark_	yes that	05:16
fateisajester	ooooooo... n/m	05:16
Dr_willis	:)	05:17
AWOSDev	mark_ LOL	05:17
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AWOSDev	h/o means hold on	05:17
Dr_willis	PV=NRT	05:17
Dr_willis	:)	05:17
mark_	looks like a typo to me	05:17
lebifteksauvage	Hello ;)	05:17
fateisajester	hi	05:17
mark_	hihi	05:17
Dr_willis	h/0 = dividsion by 0 error	05:17
Dr_willis	Hiddy Hooo!	05:17
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mark_	o ya awosdev	05:18
AWOSDev	Could also mean Hurst/Oldsmobiles.	05:18
smaggard	so you type ./configure and what happens	05:18
AWOSDev	http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/H/O	05:18
mark_	i found out what was wrong with my nvidia drivers	05:18
mark_	lol	05:18
AWOSDev	Dr_willis were you the one that said you got the new Weird Al CD?	05:19
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brydenn	smaggard: h/o	05:19
smaggard	k	05:19
mark_	no need to be rude brydenn	05:19
Dr_willis	AWOSDev, yeppers	05:19
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brydenn	mark_: haha not being rude	05:20
AWOSDev	Dr_willis they played White and Nerdy on the radio earlier	05:20
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mark_	your dictionary says h/o stands for history of	05:20
brydenn	or it could mean hold on	05:21
brydenn	whatever you prefer	05:21
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mark_	and lol stands for lack of love	05:21
mark_	or land of lincoln	05:21
smaggard	hhaha	05:21
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Dr_willis	AWOSDev, heh - AOL was supposed to have a permier of the video..but some how the video got leaked to the internet early.. so they cancled the premear!	05:21
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Dr_willis	I think that was the video.. lt was last week some time when it happened	05:21
brydenn	hey smaggard	05:22
smaggard	u gotta tell that where the kde headers are	05:22
brydenn	good news	05:22
mark_	!botsnack	05:22
ubotu	Yum!	05:22
brydenn	i dont have that error anymore haha i got a new one now	05:22
smaggard	lol	05:22
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AWOSDev	LOL it means laugh out loud :)	05:22
brydenn	checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!	05:22
mark_	!lol	05:22
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:22
smaggard	do you have qt installed?	05:23
brydenn	no i'm installing it now i think though	05:23
Dr_willis	qt -dev packages even	05:23
mark_	!Lawyers On Line	05:23
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about Lawyers On Line - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:23
mark_	:/	05:23
AWOSDev	Dr_willis yeah they put it up silently an hour before the scheduled time :)	05:23
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smaggard	ok you have to have the kde headers installed to use that akdc	05:24
Dr_willis	AWOSDev, oh? i was thinking it got leaked a few days befor..	05:24
Dr_willis	heh	05:24
Dr_willis	i still aint seen it	05:24
AWOSDev	Dr_willis it was leaked before	05:24
AWOSDev	Dr_willis AOL put it up before the scheduled time by an hour	05:24
Dr_willis	that dont sound like how i heard it...	05:25
Dr_willis	:)	05:25
AWOSDev	The video was leaked onto YouTube on September 17, 2006 just one day before the video was planned to be officially released at 9 PM Pacific time at AOL.com. Due to the leak, the premiere was cancelled,[6] and AOL silently slipped the video onto their website hours before the premiere was set to take place.	05:25
Dr_willis	sounds like an AOL guy dident set his clock for DST	05:25
AWOSDev	I edit Wikipedia :)	05:25
AWOSDev	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_&_Nerdy	05:25
Dr_willis	Lol	05:25
Dr_willis	so it is there.	05:25
mark_	no one has easy problems that need solving?	05:25
mark_	bah	05:25
Dr_willis	mark_, whats the air speed of a coconut laden swallow?	05:25
Dr_willis	:)	05:26
pierreth	Dr_willis: I have imported my stuff	05:26
brydenn	smaggard: the akdc KDE headers?	05:26
mark_	one sec dr_willis	05:26
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mark_	!air speed of a coconut laden swallow	05:26
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about air speed of a coconut laden swallow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:26
pierreth	Dr_willis: my music	05:26
smaggard	no	05:26
smaggard	do this	05:27
smaggard	sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev	05:27
Dr_willis	pierreth, you mean you 'ripped' your cd's :P	05:27
smaggard	that will install the kde headers	05:27
Dr_willis	pierreth, dont fall fo rthe fancy terms apple tries touse on you! :)	05:27
brydenn	ok they're installing	05:27
brydenn	err downloading rather	05:27
pierreth	Dr_willis: the bad thing is that I need none free format for the ipod	05:27
Dr_willis	i thought ipods could play mp3's	05:28
fateisajester	Ive been having trouble getting a new partition working the way i want it. I have tried to create a fat32 partition mounted in /storage to keep all of my important files. i was able to do it but only root has access to it. i have tried to change the permissions but its not working. i have tried using konqueror, and use chmod 777 /storage, but the permissions never set. can someone please tell me how to set /storage to grant all acce	05:28
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fateisajester	sorry for flood. i didnt realize	05:28
pierreth	Dr_willis: mp3's are not free	05:28
Dr_willis	fateisajester, you do NOT NOT NOT use chmod on a vfat partition	05:28
Dr_willis	Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions --> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume	05:29
fateisajester	thx	05:29
Dr_willis	fateisajester, you use the 'umask=0222' option or similer. that site gives examples.	05:29
Dr_willis	pierreth, free enough for me. then again i dont own an ipod.. and never plan on getting one.	05:29
Dr_willis	and i rarely listen to music much.. Other then weird al. :)	05:30
pierreth	Dr_willis: It would be great to be able to use the os we want on an ipod	05:30
Dr_willis	pierreth, i though thee was a linux-on-the-ipod project	05:30
fateisajester	thx... ill give it a shot.	05:30
AWOSDev	UbuntuiPodHowto - what a weird thought.. :)	05:30
pierreth	Dr_willis: I know but I don't think it is a real solution yet	05:31
Dr_willis	real solution - stop buying ipods.	05:31
Dr_willis	:)	05:31
AWOSDev	that'll work too	05:31
AWOSDev	get an MP3 player and liblame0	05:31
AWOSDev	tada!	05:31
Dr_willis	people just look at me weird when i suggest a total boycott of ALL the music industry...	05:32
Dr_willis	:)	05:32
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digivore	!cvs	05:32
ubotu	cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/	05:32
pierreth	Dr_willis: I love music, it is hard, but I copy CD instead	05:33
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AWOSDev	I still hate RIAA for killing Internet radio...as well as suing the dead person and the 11-year-old	05:33
Dr_willis	gee lets see - how many cds do you own.. and if you played them all.....	05:33
Dr_willis	Yea - internet radio - had such potential	05:34
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Dr_willis	well it still nice.. but not as legal as it could be.	05:34
pierreth	AWOSDev: What are you suggesting instead of an iPod?	05:34
brydenn	smaggard: you there?	05:34
AWOSDev	MP3 player	05:34
smaggard	yah	05:34
smaggard	did you install the headers?	05:34
brydenn	did you get yours to work?	05:34
brydenn	yah they're installed	05:34
pierreth	AWOSDev: what do you mean?	05:34
brydenn	my configure was susseccfull too	05:34
smaggard	and the configure works now	05:35
smaggard	cool	05:35
brydenn	i did make and make install	05:35
brydenn	but i dunno if it worked hehe	05:35
smaggard	now go to your apperance, u know how to get there?	05:35
AWOSDev	pierreth, an MP3 player. you know, it plays MP3s...	05:35
pierreth	AWOSDev: like an iPod?	05:35
AWOSDev	pierreth, like an iPod but not an iPod.	05:35
brydenn	smaggard: yes i'm there	05:36
smaggard	k	05:36
smaggard	click window decorations	05:36
pierreth	AWOSDev: Which one and why?	05:36
brydenn	k	05:36
smaggard	and click the drop down arrow and it should be listed	05:36
brydenn	its not	05:36
smaggard	hmm	05:36
brydenn	:(	05:36
brydenn	did you get yours to list?	05:36
AWOSDev	pierreth, any and all. because it's simpler and easier and more compatible than the iPod.	05:36
smaggard	did u do sudo make install?	05:36
brydenn	yah i did	05:36
brydenn	let me try it all again	05:36
smaggard	only sudo on the make install	05:36
pierreth	Dr_willis: I think the solution is buying music on the internet directly from the artists	05:37
ironfroggy	i have a question about ssh. im running three ssh servers on one domain and its confusing the keys. how can i fix that?	05:37
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pierreth	AWOSDev: like a Samsung? It is MS player. Why MS player would be a better idea than Apple players?	05:38
AWOSDev	no I mean a real simple true blue MP3 player.	05:38
brydenn	smaggard: hmm it's still not showing up in the drop box	05:38
AWOSDev	nothing more nothing less	05:38
brydenn	and everything seems to be ok	05:38
smaggard	mine complained about libXext in configure	05:38
pierreth	AWOSDev: It is like a USB key but it is able to play mp3?	05:38
AWOSDev	pierreth, some of them	05:39
AWOSDev	pierreth, hold on a sec	05:39
pierreth	AWOSDev: I never know these things existed	05:39
AWOSDev	pierreth: http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=544612&x=0&Ntt=MP3%20player&=Search&y=0&uniqueSearchFlag=true&An=text	05:40
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brydenn	smaggard: i already have libXext installed	05:40
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Dr_willis	pierreth, nah.. :) just listen to talk radio!	05:41
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smaggard	now its complaining about libz	05:41
pierreth	AWOSDev: it is a MS player	05:41
pierreth	AWOSDev: I don't want to give my money to MS	05:42
pierreth	AWOSDev: No more MS taxe on everything!	05:42
AWOSDev	pierreth: http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=618525&x=0&Ntt=MP3%20player&=Search&y=0&uniqueSearchFlag=true&An=text	05:42
AWOSDev	pierreth: even supports Linux 2.4!	05:42
pierreth	AWOSDev: still an MS player	05:43
pierreth	I guess we have no choice: Apple or MS	05:43
AWOSDev	pierreth: Just because it plays WMAs doesn't mean it's a MS player	05:43
AWOSDev	Ubuntu can play WMAs...is it MS?	05:43
brydenn	smaggard: so you havent got it to work ye?	05:43
brydenn	*yet	05:44
smaggard	no im trying another one	05:44
pierreth	AWOSDev: No, it uses reverse egenering	05:44
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Dr_willis	'friends dont let friends use wmv's'	05:44
AWOSDev	:)	05:45
AWOSDev	Friends don't let friends drive Hondas	05:45
AWOSDev	:)	05:45
pierreth	AWOSDev: why Hondas?	05:45
AWOSDev	okay fine to be really honest Toyotas or Nissans either	05:46
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pierreth	AWOSDev: thank you for this information	05:46
Dr_willis	:)	05:46
=== AWOSDev is a foreign basher
smaggard	bah its keeps saying libz configure error	05:46
=== AWOSDev will not drive anything unless it is a Ford GM or Chrysler
pierreth	Dr_willis: is poor...	05:46
smaggard	AWOSDev> GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!! im the same way	05:47
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smaggard	the toyotas and honda will cause the downfall of america	05:47
pierreth	pierreth will drive everything except a US car	05:47
Dr_willis	pierreth, i am? well if the wife would quit spending so much $$$	05:47
AWOSDev	the Toyotas and Hondas will cause the death of all Americans :)	05:47
pierreth	smaggard: good thing!!	05:47
smaggard	lol	05:48
pierreth	Dr_willis: joke!	05:48
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Dr_willis	Guess what company i work for. :)	05:48
smaggard	those foreign jobs piss me off	05:48
pierreth	I hate USA, it is the enemy of the world	05:48
Dr_willis	Of course id DaimlerChrysler an American car company now.. or not.. :P	05:48
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Dr_willis	pierreth, yea.. whatever...	05:48
MotorCityMadMan	USA USA USA USA	05:49
Dr_willis	thats my new canned reply.... "Yea... whatever"	05:49
Dr_willis	:)	05:49
pierreth	no no no...	05:49
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pierreth	I guess, it is not very important	05:49
MotorCityMadMan	I'm in love with the USA	05:49
AWOSDev	I just like seeing people live through fender-benders	05:50
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pierreth	MotorCityMadMan: you mean you love the world oppression	05:50
AWOSDev	I've seen my fair share of people, especially youth, die in non-American cars	05:50
MotorCityMadMan	pierreth: no / lots of GUNS	05:50
pierreth	AWOSDev: I think the car is responsable	05:51
AWOSDev	pierreth yes exactly	05:51
pierreth	MotorCityMadMan: to do what?	05:51
MotorCityMadMan	protection from bad ppl	05:51
MotorCityMadMan	food	05:52
pierreth	MotorCityMadMan: are you preparing yourself for war?	05:52
MotorCityMadMan	no / i'm already at war / have been for 30 years	05:53
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pierreth	MotorCityMadMan: who is the enemy?	05:53
MotorCityMadMan	bad ppl	05:53
pierreth	ppl? what is the meaning?	05:53
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MotorCityMadMan	pepole	05:53
AWOSDev	Anybody know how to get stains out of an LCD screen?	05:54
AWOSDev	like sneezes and finger prints	05:54
pierreth	MotorCityMadMan: who is bad, who is good?	05:54
MotorCityMadMan	what kind of stains	05:54
Dr_willis	AWOSDev, they make special cleaners for lcds and high end tv's	05:54
Dr_willis	i use the stuff.. its like a thick jell liquid so it dont run.	05:54
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Dr_willis	and a little cloth squeggee	05:55
Dr_willis	:)	05:55
AWOSDev	MotorCityMadMan: sneezes and finger prints	05:55
Dr_willis	DONT use windex.	05:55
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MotorCityMadMan	lol	05:55
pierreth	Dr_willis: water?	05:55
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Dr_willis	hmm... distilled.. :) perhaps.. but id invest in some good cleaner for them.	05:56
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Dr_willis	water seems to leave streaks/stains	05:56
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pierreth	Dr_willis: i used windex	05:56
Dr_willis	i got a $15 bottle of this cleaner and its lasted me 2+ years	05:56
Dr_willis	windex has ammonia - i think and thats BAD.	05:56
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Dr_willis	plus the sprays stuff can run down the screen into the frame of the monitor.. and that can be real bad..	05:57
pierreth	I would like to buy a glass to protect my screen	05:57
AWOSDev	yes ammonia	05:57
pierreth	I was not able to find one	05:57
Dr_willis	a lot of the better lcd screens theze days allready got a glass protector.	05:57
Dr_willis	and some sort of anti-glare film on that.. thats what the ammonia can hurt.	05:58
AWOSDev	Dr_willis - 2003 Compaq laptop - says it all :)	05:58
Dr_willis	use sandpaper on it then. :P	05:58
AWOSDev	Dr_willis that may be a little too gritty :)	05:59
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pierreth	sandpaper removes everything	05:59
Dr_willis	i got an old sony vaio laptop - and it still has a nicer looking screen then many of the newer laptops out	06:00
Dr_willis	wide screens - the future of lcd's	06:00
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Dr_willis	but how about TALL screens? :)	06:00
pierreth	Dr_willis: are you really a doctor?	06:01
AWOSDev	Wide screen drools	06:01
=== Dr_willis is a Dr of Love...
AWOSDev	I want a 21" widescreen LCD...that would be COOLNESS	06:01
Dr_willis	AWOSDev, then you can have room for all the desktop applets and panels at the sides!	06:01
Dr_willis	:)	06:01
pierreth	Dr_willis: can you help with my love problems? :-)	06:02
Dr_willis	and the next windows version will take up even MORE useless space, pf the screen with more useless things.. and web sites will still be centered in a HUGE wide browser window..and be a 3 inch wide colum.	06:02
Dr_willis	:P	06:02
Dr_willis	pierreth, what problem?	06:02
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Dr_willis	when in doubt... use the Old-skool-methods. :P	06:02
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AWOSDev	Dr_willis heck with that I'll get multiple desktops running on the same screen :)	06:03
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AWOSDev	Yeah I'm not liking Vista much either	06:03
pierreth	Dr_willis: I guess it is too personal for this forum...	06:03
Dr_willis	:)	06:03
AWOSDev	pierreth, go to #kubuntu-offtopic :)	06:03
Dr_willis	Penicillian! man.. Lots of Penicillian!	06:03
Dr_willis	:)	06:03
AWOSDev	hey does anybody know where lilo was from?	06:04
AWOSDev	was it Boca Raton, FL?	06:04
Dr_willis	call up that Dr Lady on Late Night Lifetime channel.	06:04
james_xxx	i am trying to install a new video card in a dektop... how do i find out what the PCI number is for the new card? xserver is still only seeing the integrated card	06:04
pierreth	Dr_willis: no it is OK, I guess I have the same problem as anyone else...	06:04
AWOSDev	james_xxx lspci -n	06:04
james_xxx	AWOSDev: ty much	06:04
AWOSDev	james_xxx np	06:04
Dr_willis	pierreth, same problem? - Not marriied = No sex.... Married = dont WANT no sex... :)	06:05
Dr_willis	err.. dont want any sex.. = married	06:05
pierreth	Dr_willis: life is simple! :-)	06:05
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Dr_willis	So if you want sex but cant get any.. get married.. then you dont want sex...	06:07
Dr_willis	:)	06:07
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AWOSDev	Dr_willis do you know where lilo was from?	06:08
AWOSDev	Dr_willis LOL	06:08
Dr_willis	AWOSDev, nope.	06:08
AWOSDev	Oh okay	06:08
pierreth	Dr_willis: OK, this is the solution!	06:08
notech	Texas, I think	06:08
AWOSDev	because I think I might have seen his accident on the local news.	06:08
AWOSDev	oh I'm in Florida	06:08
AWOSDev	he was like 20 or so, he had a Linux penguin beside him in the picture	06:08
Dr_willis	thers so many motorcycle accidents a year in the USA - its scary	06:09
notech	I never caught his age	06:09
Dr_willis	I dont ride them any more.	06:09
AWOSDev	he was certified as an MCSE at like 12	06:09
pierreth	OK, good night	06:11
Dr_willis	NVIDIA shares surge on Intel buyout rumors http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061004-7910.html	06:11
Dr_willis	One way to boost your stock... :)	06:11
AWOSDev	dang	06:11
AWOSDev	I wish I could buy Intel	06:11
AWOSDev	:)	06:11
brydenn	god	06:12
Dr_willis	buy nvidia :P	06:12
brydenn	this really sucks	06:12
brydenn	does anyone know how to install window decorations?	06:12
fateisajester	if im reading the umask stuff right, the you can only take away fron default permissions. you cant add to them?	06:12
AWOSDev	He was in Texas	06:13
AWOSDev	it was another FOSS-oriented computer geek that died down in Boca Raton, FL on a motorcycle accident three days after lilo.	06:13
AWOSDev	freaky	06:13
BonBonTheJon	brydenn: download an archive package, then go into the kcontrol, then do the install option, it installs for you	06:13
fateisajester	is that correct?	06:13
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Dr_willis	sudo apt-get install kde-style-polyester kwin-style-alphacube kwin-style-blended kwin-style-suse2	06:14
notech	fateisajester: doesn't sound right to me	06:14
Dr_willis	installs quite a few nice themes/window decors...	06:14
Dr_willis	the default is 0777 i i thought..	06:14
fateisajester	i cant get umask to give me rwxrwxrwx	06:14
brydenn	BonBonTheJon: well i've already compiled the window decoration i want	06:14
Dr_willis	i never have under stood the use of masks when ya coudl just set the #'s	06:15
brydenn	and it doesnt work just using the archive file to install a window decoration	06:15
Dr_willis	umask of 0000 = rwxrwxrwx i thought	06:15
notech	oh, well if 777 then i guess you could only take away. heh	06:15
BonBonTheJon	brydenn: I download from kde-look.org, then install	06:15
brydenn	k try something for me	06:15
fateisajester	0000 gave me r-xr-xr-x	06:15
brydenn	BonBonTheJon: go here http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 and see if you can get it to install	06:15
Dr_willis	gnome had that neat tool that lets your browse and install different themes.. sad that they are all ugly. :)	06:16
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Dr_willis	AKDC means Advanced Kwin Decoration Client	06:17
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BonBonTheJon	brydenn: sorry, window decorations doesn't have an install option, I was thinking more along the lines of splash screen	06:17
Dr_willis	i THINK thats like some sort of meta-theme-skeleton that thenuses other themes wrote for AKDC...	06:17
brydenn	yah	06:18
Dr_willis	:)	06:18
Dr_willis	ive seen a few other simler things	06:18
brydenn	errr this should be easy	06:18
Dr_willis	my downloads are slow.. let me try it :)	06:19
BonBonTheJon	brydenn: the page says to go to the directory, then do ./configure, then make, then make install	06:19
BonBonTheJon	it should work	06:19
brydenn	yah i did that	06:20
brydenn	got nothing	06:20
BonBonTheJon	hmm, don't know	06:20
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Dr_willis	Im not clear on IF the downloads are diffrent themes/.windowdecorations or widgets	06:22
Dr_willis	or if they are just themes FOR the Advanced Kwin Decoration Client	06:22
Dr_willis	it compiled. and installed (the frst download) but i see no mention of "corona' in my themes settings anywhere	06:23
Dr_willis	trying softcrystal now	06:24
brydenn	yah see thats what happened with me	06:24
brydenn	i compiled, installed and didnt see it anywhere in the window decorations dropdown menu	06:24
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Dr_willis	--mode=install /usr/bin/install -c -p 'kwin_corona_config.la' '/usr/local/kde/lib/kde3/kwin	06:25
Dr_willis	it may be going to the /usr/local/ dir - not sure if kubuntu searches those by default or not	06:25
Dr_willis	its annoying tha tthe thing uncompressed to home/junior/ProyectoKwin	06:25
brydenn	so i have to put the directory where?	06:25
brydenn	yah i know	06:26
Dr_willis	No idea. :P	06:26
Dr_willis	i normally dont mess with themes.	06:26
brydenn	hahaha	06:26
Dr_willis	other then whats in the package manager	06:26
brydenn	yah well i like eye candy	06:26
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pjz	anyone know how to get the latest beta to show video on my old matrox card?	06:27
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MrBIggZ	Greetings! I have one question, fairly simple in nature. Question is when you install a package via apt-get and using a GDM (I'm using KDE) shouldn't it automatically put an item in the appropriate menu slot? I did an apt-get for firefox but it never put anything in the internet slot on the GUI. I did gaim .. that worked right .. there was a menu item for it. Ideas?	06:30
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chavo	brydenn, I just installed that here it works no problem	06:31
mark_	mrbiggz	06:31
MrBIggZ	present!	06:31
mark_	it may show up after you restart kde	06:31
chavo	make sure you ./configure --prefix /usr	06:31
MrBIggZ	I have .. a few times	06:31
mark_	try ctrl+alt+backspace	06:31
mark_	hrmm	06:31
AWOSDev	MrBiggZ - try kbuildsycoca	06:32
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mark_	nothing?	06:33
MrBiggZ	nope	06:33
Dr_willis	Figured it out.. :P	06:33
Dr_willis	lol	06:33
mark_	try kbuildsycoca	06:33
mark_	thats awos' advice btw	06:33
MrBiggZ	Guess i'll have to add this in manually	06:33
pjz	anyone know how to get the latest beta to show video on my old matrox card? or how to tell it to boot using text mode?	06:33
Dr_willis	- /usr/lib/kde3 is where the .so files go.	06:33
MrBiggZ	i know when I ran a mandrake flavor that you used to have to run menu-update from a prompt	06:33
mark_	really dont have to do that in ubuntu	06:34
mark_	so i dont know why its doing it to you	06:34
mark_	btw you're using gdm??	06:34
mark_	why not kdm?	06:34
Dr_willis	chavo, yea - i was just thinking that..	06:35
chavo	you can put them in your ~/.kde also for kstyle and kwin decos	06:36
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MrBiggZ	i am using KDE	06:36
mark_	yeah but you said you were using the gnome display manager	06:37
MrBiggZ	gde would be graphic display manager .. which is what kde is .. another gui	06:37
MrBiggZ	never said gnome .. hate gnome!	06:37
MrBiggZ	ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!	06:37
mark_	gdm stands for gnome display manager, and kdm is k display manager	06:38
MrBiggZ	ok none the less .. just a difference in meanings	06:38
MrBiggZ	I found the context menu to add the item.	06:38
pjz	is there a way to get kubuntu to not launch gdm when it boots off the CD?	06:38
mark_	they each work better for their particular desktop environment thats why i was confused by why you were using gdm to run kde	06:38
MrBiggZ	oh .. sorry	06:38
mark_	np	06:39
mark_	pjz what do you mean?	06:39
Dr_willis	i dont see where they go in .kde (perhaps i got some dirs not made yet)	06:39
MrBiggZ	i'm testing this out on a vmware workstation .. if it works good .. i'll replace my fedora core server with this .. so far i like it	06:39
pjz	mark_: well, when it I boot off the kubuntu livecd, it doesn't pick my graphics card correctly	06:39
MrBiggZ	anybody running it as a web server + email?	06:39
pjz	mark_: or at least only the bootloader picks it correctly	06:40
pjz	mark_: after it boots it switches to a different video mode and I can't see anyhting	06:40
mark_	ok	06:40
mark_	hmm	06:40
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pjz	ah, finally managed to kill the X server hard enough to let it stay in text mode for a few mins	06:41
mark_	what card pjs	06:41
mark_	and also, you can enter text mode usually by ctrl+alt+f2	06:41
pjz	mark_: honestly I'm not sure... it's the built-in video on an old HP Vectra VL - it's a 500MHz P3	06:42
pjz	mark_: ah! good to know	06:42
pjz	mark_: I think it's some kind of old matrox chipset	06:42
MrBiggZ	k .. thanks for the help.	06:42
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pjz	ah, it's a 'Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP'	06:43
mark_	hmm thats not good	06:43
ubuntu_	hello.... any one here to speak?	06:43
ubuntu_	spani	06:43
pjz	mark_: yeah, I pretty much figured it would work out of the box	06:44
mark_	!spanish	06:44
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:44
ubuntu_	si	06:44
mark_	!espanol	06:44
chavo	!es	06:44
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:44
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	06:44
mark_	bah darn u chavo	06:44
ubuntu_	de donde eres	06:44
chavo	lol	06:44
chavo	de USA	06:44
ubuntu_	a ok	06:44
pjz	de Tejas	06:44
ubuntu_	yo soy de argentina	06:45
mark_	lemme check if the kernel has a module for your card pjz	06:45
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ubuntu_	que distribucion nix utilizas??	06:45
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mark_	pjz, try modprobe matroxfb	06:46
rahul	hello all	06:46
pjz	mark_: try that when, from where?	06:46
chavo	hi	06:46
mark_	well you're in terminal right now right?	06:46
ubuntu_	hi??	06:47
pjz	mark_: yeah - okay, it's not found	06:47
mark_	gah	06:47
mark_	you might have to compile your own kernel	06:47
pjz	ooo, icky	06:47
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mark_	theres something in the kernel that supports matrox g200	06:48
pjz	shouldn't this be a kubuntu bug?	06:48
mark_	but i dont know if its on by default	06:48
mark_	nah	06:48
pjz	I mean, no worries for me - I've built my own kenrels and etc etc for ages	06:48
neddiW	hi to all	06:48
pjz	but it's mostly unusable for anyone who doesn't know how to break out of the X server	06:49
mark_	hihi	06:49
neddiW	how do i enable zeroconf in my kubuntu 6.06?	06:49
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mark_	you might try to install using the alternate install cd	06:49
pjz	mark_: oh? there's an alt install CD?	06:49
mark_	it may just be a problem with the live one	06:49
mark_	ya	06:49
rahul	i am trying to compile "file " package .. but it gives me the error "file: could not find any magic files!"	06:49
rahul	any ideas ??	06:49
mark_	i presume your running x86	06:49
mark_	http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso	06:49
pjz	mark_: yeah	06:50
pjz	mark_: how do I tell which vefrsion of the CD I'm running? or which version of ubuntu?	06:50
Dr_willis	cat /etc/release (i think)	06:50
mark_	well yours tried to boot into a kubuntu session right?	06:50
mark_	if so its a live cd	06:50
pjz	yeah	06:50
Dr_willis	cat /etc/lsb-release	06:51
mark_	0.o	06:51
pjz	Dr_willis: sweet, thanks	06:51
pjz	for the record, this is actaully a 6.10 beta LiveCD	06:51
ubuntu_	pjs Do you running ubuntu i live cd now??	06:51
mark_	pjz that image i sent you is an ubuntu image :p	06:51
mark_	http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso	06:51
mark_	there	06:51
pjz	ubuntu_: I'm testing a beta	06:52
mark_	wait, edgy eft live cd?	06:52
pjz	yes	06:52
mark_	that would probably be your problem :\	06:52
pjz	ah?	06:53
brydenn33	ok i got it working :)	06:53
mark_	they might not have worked out support for your card in the new version yet	06:53
brydenn33	thanks to chavo	06:53
ubuntu_	you are groso	06:53
brydenn33	here's my desktop guys...	06:53
brydenn33	http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1co0.png	06:53
brydenn33	http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/997/snapshot2cl7.png	06:54
brydenn33	what ya think :)	06:54
pjz	mark_: right, but it's not listed on the KnownProblems wiki page	06:54
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mark_	well post it on the forum before reporting it as a bug	06:54
mark_	and eww proprietary nvidia start bar	06:54
pjz	what forum?	06:55
mark_	your comp looks like xp junior	06:55
brydenn33	<sigh>	06:55
brydenn33	its a look	06:55
brydenn33	and KDE dont act much different that the XP start bar	06:55
ubuntu_	what is the version of linux that run a videos dvd's etc.	06:55
brydenn33	so i dont wanna hear it	06:55
ubuntu_	??	06:55
mark_	http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=144	06:55
smaggard	mythtv	06:55
brydenn33	alright i'm off guys	06:57
brydenn33	ttyl	06:57
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mark_	lol poor gnome users	06:59
mark_	no built in bittorrent	06:59
Healot	wtf	07:00
Healot	desktop doesn't really matter	07:00
smaggard	nope	07:02
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doombox	haha @ kde	07:06
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AtKaaZ	hi, is there a way to see all hard links' paths of a given filename ? ie. if a file had 5 hard links can one see them all exactly where there are?	07:06
doombox	here is my desktop...	07:06
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doombox	http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/947/snapshot1gu3.png	07:09
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doombox	AtKaaZ: not sure.	07:10
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Tm_T	doombox: nice shot, so what's the problem	07:12
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doombox	lol nothing. Taskbars suck, the less I see them, the better...	07:13
doombox	=]	07:13
doombox	Some guy posted a shot of his KDE WinClassic lookalike with Nvidia instead of "Start"	07:14
neddiW	lnxkde	07:14
doombox	Is there any helpful, full-of-knowledge kubuntuers in the room and alive at the moment?	07:15
Healot	full-of-knowledge> no one is able to beat this	07:15
Healot	just ask, and I am sure some willing to answer	07:16
lnxkde	neddiW: sup!?	07:16
neddiW	just chillin	07:16
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neddiW	lnxkde, what was the icon package u had installed?	07:17
lnxkde	were?	07:17
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neddiW	in your kubuntu box maclike	07:17
lnxkde	I use one os these 2....	07:18
lnxkde	http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=45576 or thease http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=16564	07:19
neddiW	thanks	07:19
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lnxkde	neddiW: :)	07:20
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doombox	I have 3 different boxes, 3 diff OS's. All running samba. Kunbuntu out-of-the-box can browse smb shares from OS X / WinXP, however I seem to have issues in making ubuntu share a drive itself via samba. followed instructions here. http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8659.0 .I did an "sudo apt-get install smbfs" to get the smb file server, followed instructions in the directions, but can't get any other box to even see my ubuntu s	07:20
doombox	shouldn't be firewall issues, it's all LAN based..	07:21
mark_	samba is a PITA in ubuntu atm	07:21
doombox	yeah which is strange...	07:21
doombox	smb usually aint too tough to config	07:21
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mark_	personally i prefer nfs	07:22
neddiW	lnxkde, crystal diamond icons ROck!@!	07:22
mark_	you should see if you can get it running in xp	07:22
doombox	I can get OS X to access NFS, however I haven't looked into for XP	07:22
mark_	there are some programs that will do it	07:22
doombox	are they decently good at it?	07:22
mark_	dunno if there are any free ones tho	07:22
mark_	yes	07:22
doombox	Ok, thanks. I'll take a look at the NFS system.	07:23
doombox	Otherwise I may just go the FTP route.	07:23
lnxkde	neddiW: that is Vlos the way I want it to look ;)	07:23
mark_	im stealing your icons lnxkde	07:24
lnxkde	mark_: ;) they are not mine they are of kde-look.org	07:24
mark_	no matter	07:24
lnxkde	mark_ they rock ;)	07:24
mark_	i steal em anyway	07:24
lnxkde	lol	07:24
mark_	are they a complete set?	07:24
mark_	and how complete?	07:25
lnxkde	both are a complete set	07:25
neddiW	lnxkde, it looks awesome!!! :D	07:25
mark_	i think i need to register on freenode to accept d/l	07:25
lnxkde	and they are very complete I would say full	07:25
lnxkde	mark_: oh	07:25
neddiW	lnxkde, DCC failed :S	07:25
doombox	neddiW: There's a KDE-to-OSX lookalike step by step here if you are a tiger lover: http://linuxgangster.org/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=15	07:25
neddiW	doombox, thankx! ive been trying for days :D	07:26
mark_	nooo	07:26
mark_	no more osx lookalikes	07:26
mark_	we need fresh themes	07:26
doombox	I haven't tried it on kubuntu... it was really easy to follow on slackware though..	07:27
doombox	I'm still learning the wonders of kubuntu.. is it easy to compile from source with it?	07:27
neddiW	mark_, you are right in some part	07:27
lnxkde	doombox: you have to learn the paths	07:27
doombox	I keep hearing something about "OGRE" instead of the good ol' 3 stepper ./configure, make, make install	07:27
mark_	you need to install a bunch of packages first but ya pretty much	07:27
lnxkde	doombox: paths change somethimes not like a slackare and gentoo system that yiou do ./configure make make install	07:28
doombox	I keep wanting to go to /etc/rc.d/ when i want to tweak startup items. :( lol	07:28
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doombox	ok thanks lnxkde, i'll try to find a good manual on that...	07:29
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mark_	argh you gave me virus'd icons	07:29
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mark_	or my system is shutting down	07:29
doombox	were you logged in as root mark_?	07:29
mark_	i wasnt supposed to? 'o'	07:30
doombox	Here's a little question. Kubuntu is there any conventional way to change your shortcuts? I mean I just did a Run Command: kcontrol '	07:31
doombox	they only seem to have system settings which doesn't include the shortcut list.. you know?	07:31
doombox	in a default install of the menu... found that kind of strange...	07:32
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mark_	system settings -> regional & accesibility -> keyboard shortcuts	07:32
doombox	yeah	07:32
doombox	I always miss the simple things like that. Thanks mark_ :(	07:32
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mark_	my only problem with the new icons is that the trash is too transparent	07:32
mark_	and np	07:32
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shriphani	guys how do i play mp3 in kubuntu	07:33
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doombox	i enjoy xmms personally, but that's not a default isntall of kubuntu	07:33
shriphani	i tried installing libxine-extracodecs	07:34
mark_	enable all your repos and install libxine-extracodecs	07:34
fateisajester	i dont mean to be a pain, but im still running into permission issues with umount. i cannot get drwxwrxwrx. defaults are dr-x------. can someone please gimme a hint?	07:34
mark_	have you tried editing fstab?	07:34
fateisajester	will that work with a ntfs volume?	07:35
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doombox	erm	07:35
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mark_	ya	07:35
mark_	just enter: defaults,nls=utf8, umask=007, gid=46 under your options section	07:36
mark_	for your ntfs partition that is	07:36
fateisajester	thx	07:37
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mark_	ugh, it uses ipods for media players	07:38
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shriphani	how do i play mp3 ?	07:46
Felin	>.> Yay, seem like a noob time for me!	07:46
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Felin	If anyone is willing to help, I have a few questions about Kubuntu.	07:47
Healot	!ask	07:47
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	07:47
shriphani	!mp3	07:47
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	07:47
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Slackery	!smb	07:49
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:49
Felin	Ok, one issue I have is finding the drivers for both my sound and video card. Another is changing the screen resolution. On top of that, this is my first time using any OS aside from Windows, so...I have no idea what I'm doing. ^_^	07:49
Slackery	video card's name?	07:49
Felin	ATI Rage 128	07:49
Slackery	go to ati.com	07:49
Felin	Tried.	07:49
Slackery	they have a linux driver page, but honestly...	07:49
Slackery	ATI rage 128 is old enough it should be auto-working	07:49
Felin	They no longer have the codecs for it.	07:49
Slackery	Do you know window's shortcuts?	07:50
Felin	It does yes, but without all the pretty options I had on Windows, or do I not get those anymore?	07:50
Slackery	ex. Winkey+R , Alt+tab ?	07:50
Slackery	is that how you navigate?	07:50
Felin	Not at all. ^_^;;; I click with my mouse, and stuff happens. Actually, the entire Open Source thing is intimadting to me.	07:51
Slackery	Hmm right click desktop, do screensaver, and click the OpenGL section. Those should be semi-decent on a Rage 128	07:51
Slackery	if they are really laggy you're probably doing software mode	07:51
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Slackery	Ahh, well those are shortcut keys for the OS you left... hehe	07:51
shriphani	guys apt-get libxine-etracodecs is obsolete	07:52
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Felin	Ok, here's an important question.	07:52
shriphani	pt-get says ^	07:52
Felin	Formatting my extra drives, is there a way to do it without running the installer all over again?	07:53
Slackery	Yeah, it has a drive manager.	07:53
Felin	I shall hunt for that then.	07:53
Slackery	For sound Felin: You have a sound icon on your bottom right corner of task menu?	07:53
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Felin	Mhmm.	07:53
Slackery	Click it, then go to Mixer	07:53
Slackery	Current Mixer: --------------------> What does it say?	07:54
Felin	Nothing at all.	07:54
Slackery	ok ^_^	07:54
Felin	Is this bad?	07:54
Slackery	click that drop down make sure it isn't magically there	07:54
Slackery	well it just means your sound card didn't auto-detect, is all	07:54
Felin	Nope, it's not there.	07:54
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Slackery	are you on a laptop?	07:54
Felin	Nope.	07:55
Slackery	know what your sound card is, exactly?	07:55
Felin	An AWE64	07:55
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neddiW	lnxkde	07:59
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brendonjt	hi all any new zealanders here???	08:00
xhitmanx	brendonjt: yep	08:01
neddiW	cuantos Boricuas hay aki?	08:01
brendonjt	cool just wondering i am trying to get konqueror to work with anz banking any help there?	08:01
brendonjt	xhitmanx: :as above to you	08:02
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xhitmanx	what sort of plugins is it using?	08:04
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xhitmanx	have u tried firefox?	08:04
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brendonjt	xhitmanx: : yeah had to install it to do my banking, but i like konqueror it is nicer and less resource hungry unlike forefox	08:05
Felin	>.> Speaking of said web browser...	08:07
Felin	How does one go about getting flash installed onto it.	08:07
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xhitmanx	for firefox?	08:08
smaggard	which browser?	08:08
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Felin	No, Konqueror	08:08
smaggard	umm iunno	08:08
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xhitmanx	sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?	08:08
xhitmanx	no thats mozilla	08:09
brendonjt	will that work for konqueror	08:09
xhitmanx	i follow this for everything :)	08:09
xhitmanx	http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper	08:09
Healot	that flash plugin will work in konq	08:09
Felin	>.> I shalt look at it.	08:09
Healot	just need to update the konq plugin list, most of the time konq do that automagically	08:10
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brendonjt	xhitmanx: : i use that to it is like the holy grail for me	08:11
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calcmandan	Does anyone have any howto's on getting 6.06.1 LTS on a bootable thumb drive I can read up on?	08:11
unix_infidel	calcmandan: how big is your thumbdrive?	08:12
Healot	it's somewhere on the ubuntu community doc	08:12
calcmandan	2gb	08:12
unix_infidel	calcmandan: at a very fundamental level i wouldnt recommend it.	08:12
unix_infidel	flash memory isnt designed to run operating systems.	08:12
Healot	finding a doc in ubuntu community doc is like searching for heaven	08:12
unix_infidel	it'll ruin your drive quickly. but hey if you find 20bucks for a new flash drive, go a head.	08:12
calcmandan	I want to do it more for an emergency thing.	08:13
brendonjt	Healot: :you not wrong there like finding a needle in a haystack	08:13
calcmandan	how does using a flash drive to hold an OS bad for the flash memory?	08:13
unix_infidel	calcmandan: by all means. but make sure you dont put an entire desktop install on there.	08:13
unix_infidel	calcmandan: flash memory just isnt designed to do that kind IO	08:14
calcmandan	cd cdrom	08:14
calcmandan	woops	08:14
calcmandan	that's the first I've heard of it.	08:14
unix_infidel	:)	08:14
Healot	brendonjt, i was being religious :0	08:15
unix_infidel	calcmandan: dont listen to me, just watch as your drive creeps as you use it to run an OS every day.	08:15
calcmandan	there are vendors out there who sell flash drives with preinstalled os's. they're just selling juink then.	08:15
unix_infidel	calcmandan: no, they arent, they are selling them for the purpose of running OSs as a portable solution.	08:15
calcmandan	well, the drive was a gift and i thought it would be great to have it for emergencies.	08:15
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unix_infidel	calcmandan: granted, for emergencies its a great recovery tool.	08:15
unix_infidel	calcmandan: just make sure you dont load an entire desktop OS on there. Whatever distro you go with.	08:16
calcmandan	it was either kubuntu or dsl	08:16
brendonjt	Healot: : i know but it is the truth though	08:16
Healot	yes	08:16
Healot	haha	08:16
unix_infidel	calcmandan: honestly, both are good choices.	08:16
Healot	I rather not search around ubuntu's doc	08:16
unix_infidel	i run dsl from a qemu-embedded all the time on a network share.	08:16
calcmandan	do you know any great howto's?	08:16
calcmandan	i suppose not.	08:17
calcmandan	unix_infidel: Thank you for the advice either way.	08:17
Healot	none atm	08:18
unix_infidel	calcmandan: a quick google.	08:18
unix_infidel	should do you a lot of good.	08:18
unix_infidel	there is no one "great" aka right way to do it.	08:18
Healot	if you define great as in Alexander the Great (Gay) man	08:18
brendonjt	xhitmanx: : yeah i have the firefox plugins for that i am wanting it for konqueror though not firefox	08:18
calcmandan	i already google'd it though bro.	08:18
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xhitmanx	brendonjt: im not sure then sorry.	08:22
xhitmanx	brendonjt: whats not working? the login?	08:22
unix_infidel	anyone here use delicious to manage their bookmarks?	08:23
brendonjt	xhitmanx: i get to the login when i click enter it opens a new tab saying fetching details then just stays there, do the the same thing under ff and it is like a 2 second wonder i can do my banking and the likes	08:23
unix_infidel	is there a firefox plugin for it?	08:23
brendonjt	unix_infidel: : for what?	08:24
unix_infidel	brendonjt: being able to bookmark things directly to del.ic.ious from firefox without having to login and paste the url.	08:24
xhitmanx	unix_infidel: i use it, yeah there is, and it downloaded when i signed up	08:24
unix_infidel	xhitmanx: find it more useful than traditional browser bookmarking?	08:24
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xhitmanx	yeah kinda, my bookmarks toolbar is where the ones i click all the time are.	08:25
xhitmanx	but for random pages u want to see again it is	08:25
unix_infidel	hmm.	08:25
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kraut	moin	08:45
fateisajester	he y i just went to walmart and decided to get a video card so that i can have 3d acceleration. before i open the box i wanted to ask if anyone know weather or not it will work. it is a geforce mx4000	08:48
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tejinder	whats the difference between edgy eft and edgy+1?	08:53
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Godrin	fateisajester: normally it should work	08:55
fateisajester	so what would be abnormal	08:55
Godrin	fateisajester: really strange problems, that can likely be solved somehow :p	08:56
fateisajester	lol	08:56
Godrin	but..	08:56
Godrin	why did you buy an mx-card?	08:56
fateisajester	i was at walmart\	08:56
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fateisajester	it waseither that or an ati	08:57
Godrin	they're so _not_ 3d-accelating	08:57
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Godrin	at least AFAIK	08:57
fateisajester	well, im gunna give it a shot. i have bitchx installed, so i might be back in a min with x probs	08:58
fateisajester	lol	08:58
fateisajester	bbl	08:59
fateisajester	thx for the help	08:59
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sakitel	#ubuntu	09:09
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knapper	hey guys, I had ubuntu then installed kubuntu-desktop. When I boot up I still get the gdm, how can I switch it to kdm?	09:11
Healot	sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm	09:12
Healot	select kdm as the default desktop manager	09:12
knapper	oh that was easy :)	09:12
knapper	thanks mate	09:12
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giorg	-leave	09:18
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martinjh99	Anyone know when Edgy is being released??	09:21
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Healot	in october, martinjh99	09:22
martinjh99	Anyone know when Edgy is being released??	09:22
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Healot	talk the about edgy on #ubuntu+1 or ubuntu.com :-	09:23
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martinjh99	Any exact date??	09:24
Healot	in october really, but do you want it t be delayed?	09:24
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martinjh99	Not really... Just wondering... :)	09:24
Healot	isnt that up to canonical?	09:24
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Healot	they did delay dapper	09:25
martinjh99	Yeah I know... Guess I'll have to wait and see...	09:25
Healot	you can always dl the test flights	09:26
Healot	or knot :)	09:26
cpk2	its october 26th or something i think	09:26
banjooie	....	09:26
banjooie	Christ, I'm sure this is awesome when you get used to it	09:26
banjooie	but the learning curve is death	09:26
cpk2	its rc1 right now right?	09:27
cpk2	banjooie: whats the problem?	09:27
martinjh99	I did try and update a Dapper installation to edgy - worked ok	09:27
martinjh99	But I'm waiting for the real thing though... ;)	09:27
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banjooie	Oh, just in general.	09:27
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banjooie	Learning how to instal programs when I'm used to doubleclicking them.	09:27
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Healot	martinjh99, just one verb, "wait"	09:27
banjooie	The, er, consistent need to get into terminal to do pretty much anything	09:27
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banjooie	Don't get me wrong, I am certain this opens up a wide variety of options I previously didn't have with Windows.	09:27
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banjooie	I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm saying it's a /huge/ shift and there really aren't many guides out there to make it simple for people who simply /have never used UNIX/.	09:28
cpk2	banjooie: with (k)ubuntu there is mostly a gui for almost everything	09:28
banjooie	Yeah, except...installing without using Adept.	09:28
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banjooie	Killing processes--the only reason I'm any good at this is I fucked around with SVCHOST a lot on Windows.	09:28
cpk2	banjooie: the wiki has many walkthroughs for the basics and you can get synaptic for kde if you dont like adept	09:29
banjooie	er, the issue is not how good adept is	09:29
cpk2	personally i think apt-get is easier than adept	09:29
banjooie	the issue is that the walkthroughs I've managed to find are	09:29
banjooie	'Used to other versions of Linux? :D?'	09:29
banjooie	Don't get me wrong. I am very much getting used to this, and may even have it in a week or two.	09:29
banjooie	It's just that it's a scary, scary shift.	09:29
cpk2	banjooie: you havent found what you needed on the ubuntu wiki?	09:30
cpk2	or the forums	09:30
banjooie	No, the Ubuntu Wiki was mostly	09:30
banjooie	'Hi, here's how you do it if you're used to other Linux'.	09:30
cpk2	=\	09:31
banjooie	I have these basics via yelling at people I know now, but finding them is hard.	09:31
cpk2	heh, and I've always thought the wiki was mostly easy copy paste	09:31
banjooie	There is no copy pasta, only Zuul.	09:32
cpk2	zuul?	09:32
banjooie	....	09:33
banjooie	yes.	09:33
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cpk2	err whats zuul?	09:34
banjooie	haven't you ever watched ghostbusters	09:34
cpk2	i suppose, but its been a while	09:35
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fateisajester	ok i got the vid card installed and tux racer is running great so i wanted to start playing doom. i installed everything that said doom in synaptic but i dont see it under games. how do i start doom?	09:43
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Healot	!find doom	09:45
ubotu	Found: freedoom, kdoomsday, lxdoom, lxdoom-sndserv, lxdoom-svga (and 6 others)	09:45
Healot	and 6 others lol	09:45
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Healot	!info lxdoom	09:45
ubotu	lxdoom: Unix port of boom, an enhanced version of DOOM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-9.2 (dapper), package size 286 kB, installed size 480 kB	09:45
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fateisajester	thx	09:46
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fateisajester	im still learning how to use a command line	09:46
fateisajester	apt-get install nvidia-glx	09:47
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fateisajester	oops	09:47
fateisajester	bash: !find: event not found	09:47
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fateisajester	do i have to install the !find command?	09:48
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Healot	fateisajester, wtf... it works here, it's not a UNIX/Linux commands btw	09:52
ubuntu_	yay im attempting to install edgy	09:52
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fateisajester	sorry im still learning	09:54
ubuntu_	what's wrong?	09:54
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fateisajester	i misinterpretid(sp?) a bot command as a linux command	09:56
ubuntu_	this channel has no mods?	09:57
ubuntu_	botsnack is not a shell command	09:57
fateisajester	i was all like do i have to install the !find command, and now i feel quite stupid	09:57
ubuntu_	!botsnack	09:57
ubotu	Yum!	09:57
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Healot	!ops	09:58
ubotu	Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak or Hawkwind	09:58
Healot	fateisajester, btw there is a "find" command in GNU/Linux	09:59
Healot	fufufuf	09:59
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ubuntu_	gnomefreak is a mod in the kubuntu channel	09:59
ubuntu_	i dont like the sound of that	09:59
Healot	without the exclamation point	09:59
Riddell	Healot: hmm?	09:59
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Hawkwind	Healot: Need something ?	10:03
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carlos_	hola alguin que me pueda ayudar	10:05
Healot	ubuntu_> this channel has no mods? >>c'est repondez	10:05
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ubuntu_	no	10:05
ubuntu_	restarting my computer now bye	10:06
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Healot	!es	10:06
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	10:06
RichEd	kyrvin: hello & ping	10:07
kyrvin	RichEd: Hello	10:07
kyrvin	RichEd: I really don't get the time zones right	10:08
RichEd	No problem :) We are both on the same time zone now I think ... it is 10:09 for me in Cape Town	10:09
RichEd	kyrvin: When would you like to chat ? I need 10-15 minutes to go through your emails ... and am free any time after that.	10:10
kyrvin	RichEd: Thats ok. Then I need something to eat :)	10:10
RichEd	kyrvin: Great. I'll ping you at 30 past the hour.	10:11
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windshear	Hello	10:13
windshear	If you use the install script and you have entered all the requested data you get to the -Ready to install- screen. This shows you the summary of the necessary info you provided to install kubuntu. (Language, Keyboard layout... till grub).	10:13
windshear	Then there is a note: If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks. [...]	10:13
windshear	But unfortunately there are no changes listed below eventhough I told the script to format 2 partitions.	10:13
windshear	In 6.06 the changes were listed correctly.	10:14
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cpk2	windshear: you trying to install edgy?	10:15
windshear	yes	10:15
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cpk2	i think #ubuntu+1 would know better ;)	10:16
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windshear	hm, is the installer the same in ubuntu as in kubuntu?	10:17
cpk2	windshear: I think i heard someone saying the kubuntu installer wasnt as good but i dont really know	10:18
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banjooie	Uh, stupid question--how do I refresh the list of apps in the K menu?	10:29
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fateisajester	ctl alt backspace	10:30
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abattoir	banjooie: kbuildsycoca --incremental	10:30
cpk2	fateisajester: NO that restarts kde	10:31
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abattoir	banjooie: or try restarting kicker(not sure if that refreshes the kmenu though)	10:31
fateisajester	wouldn't it refresh it though?	10:31
abattoir	banjooie: 'dcop kicker kicker restart'	10:31
_Shade_	hey guys. How can I confirm my public key in launchpad ?	10:31
banjooie	okay, that seems to have worked	10:32
banjooie	interesting, despite having installed superkaramba, it's still not showing up.	10:32
RichEd	kyrvin: you there ?	10:32
kyrvin	Yes	10:32
RichEd	kyrvin: would you like to join me in #ubuntu-education	10:33
_Shade_	i followed the instructions given but still have no idea how to encrypt the message	10:33
kyrvin	Yes	10:33
_Shade_	i mean decrypt	10:33
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cpk2	fateisajester: yes it would, doesnt it mean thats how it should be done =)	10:35
fateisajester	i didnt know about the other ways thats how i always did it	10:35
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cpk2	banjooie: not in "utilities"?	10:38
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banjooie	um	10:41
banjooie	No.	10:41
banjooie	Also after running easyubuntu it...doesn't seem to have done anything.	10:41
banjooie	like, I have the GUI open, the log claims it's installed a bunch of crap.	10:42
cpk2	eek	10:42
cpk2	easy ubuntu	10:42
banjooie	...	10:42
banjooie	What the--	10:43
cpk2	!easyubuntu	10:43
ubotu	EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.	10:43
cpk2	use at your own risk ><	10:43
banjooie	Last night, I said 'HEY I INSTALLED AUTOMATIX' and everyone whined at me for that.	10:43
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banjooie	Now everyone's whining at me for using easyubuntu.	10:43
Torched_	!gtk	10:43
ubotu	gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications	10:43
banjooie	and I'm not saying zomg fix	10:43
banjooie	I'm saying 'argh'. D: That's all.	10:43
cpk2	lol	10:43
banjooie	automatix at least WORKED.	10:43
cpk2	well now you know =P	10:43
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banjooie	Now I know that Linux is designed to be impossible to use? :P	10:43
cpk2	nah	10:44
cpk2	i think i did everything that automatix/easyubuntu would do in about 15 minnutes probably	10:44
cpk2	assuming they just install essential stuff	10:44
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banjooie	it's stuff like java/flash/etc, and ati drivers, things like that	10:45
banjooie	automatix installs shit like GIMP	10:45
zorglu_	!language	10:46
ubotu	Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	10:46
banjooie	....now, the question is: Couldn't you yourself have said 'watch your language'?	10:46
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banjooie	anyway, since I'm entirely too bored of getting alternately told 'Use x program, y program sucks', then 'argh, why are you using x program, use z program', I'mma vammose.	10:47
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cpk2	i think it should have been vamanos	10:50
cpk2	unless that wasnt spanish	10:50
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hsihh	what is alternative for flash?	10:51
hsihh	to make a goodlooking sites	10:51
zorglu_	no real alternative to flash	10:51
zorglu_	the closest being called 'web2.0'	10:51
hsihh	but web2.0	10:52
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visik7	will kubuntu edgy have support for apport ???	10:57
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giangi	salve	11:15
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hsihh	what is kde pluses comparing to gnome and kfce and flxbox?	11:22
cpk2	hsihh: alot of it is just personal preference	11:22
hsihh	cpk2 ie	11:23
hsihh	in example?	11:25
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cpk2	hsihh: what do you mean? alot of it is just how you like how it behaves and stuff	11:25
fuzzy	hi there	11:26
fuzzy	i got a question... i'm trying to mount a FAT32 partition, which QTParted says to be 71% full. But when i look at the mounted filesystem, it's empty	11:27
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cpk2	you look at the wiki?	11:27
cpk2	!fat32	11:28
ubotu	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse	11:28
fuzzy	when i right-click on in in konqueror, it also says it's 71% full, but i see no content	11:28
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fuzzy	automount doesn't work either	11:28
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hsihh	cpk2 - i think now that kde is good for beginners. but what if beginner has really old computer/	11:28
cpk2	i suppose fluxbox is less demanding	11:30
fuzzy	idea anyone?	11:30
cpk2	fuzzy: sorry, not familiar with windows FS stuff =(	11:30
fuzzy	ok, thanks anyway!	11:31
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helpmw	I deleted the sources.list file by an accident, how do I create a new one?	11:32
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mindspin	!easysource	11:32
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	11:32
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TwrKeeper	help	11:41
TwrKeeper	my sudo isn't functioning	11:42
pierre_	hi	11:42
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TwrKeeper	i somehow lost my ... host name or something	11:42
pierre_	i need help... i have a *,pst file from outlook around 500mb big... all with emails is there any propper way to get them into evolution or kmail?	11:42
cpk2	TwrKeeper: huh?	11:43
TwrKeeper	i'm simo@(none)	11:43
TwrKeeper	sudo says it cant lookup the host name	11:43
cpk2	thats odd	11:44
TwrKeeper	I think i removed the host name from systemsettings -> network settings	11:44
TwrKeeper	how do i get it back?	11:45
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cpk2	TwrKeeper: what does cat /etc/hostname say?	11:46
andrivid	Hey umm..i start gaim by konsole, and it gives me beta3.1, but by the KMenu i get 1.5 , why the difference?	11:46
TwrKeeper	cpk2: i'm on win32 now because i couldn't get internet working without sudo :/	11:47
TwrKeeper	i'll try google	11:48
andrivid	i start gaim by konsole, and it gives me beta3.1, but by the KMenu i get 1.5 , why the difference?	11:48
cpk2	TwrKeeper: looks like maybe /etc/init.d/hostname.sh will give you your hostname back?	11:49
cpk2	i'm not really sure	11:49
andrivid	cpk?	11:49
TwrKeeper	cpk2: do i need root privileges to edit that?	11:50
cpk2	TwrKeeper: you run it, and you might need root to run it, in fact you most likely need root to run it	11:51
cpk2	TwrKeeper: you might just be able to edit /etc/hostname and put your hostname in there	11:51
cpk2	i am not really sure how it decides your hostname	11:51
TwrKeeper	if i hadn't hangover this would be funny	11:52
TwrKeeper	but thx, i'll go try those things	11:52
TwrKeeper	bbl	11:52
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buz_	is there a way to query for smart variables on an usb hd?	11:55
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cpk2	i'm sure which ever smart prog you use can do it?	11:56
buz_	doesnt seem like it	11:56
buz_	hddtemp /dev/sda says smart is not supported	11:56
buz_	but i know that the drive i use in the enclosure can do smart	11:57
rambo3	s.m.a.r.t, ?	11:57
buz_	yes	11:57
cpk2	you might need to tell it to use sata?	11:57
cpk2	or have they not done sata yet?	11:57
buz_	its an usb device	11:57
buz_	usb-ata enclosure	11:57
cpk2	yes but its on sda	11:57
buz_	sata actually works	11:58
cpk2	so it treats it as a serial correct?	11:58
buz_	just tested	11:58
buz_	mhh not sure what the s means, i THOUGHT it stood for scsi	11:59
buz_	as sata and usb are emulated as scsi devices?	11:59
buz_	thing is this, there's a fan in the usb thingy	11:59
buz_	which makes noise beyond belief and i try to figure out if it's really needed	12:00
buz_	also theres another thing about usb drives i dont get	12:01
buz_	if i connect one, i get it mounted automagically	12:01
buz_	if i connect more than one, i either dont get any of them mounted or just the first	12:01
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buz_	i know how to mount it from the console, it's just more work :)	12:02
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damiano	ciao a tutti	12:17
JohnFlux	Riddell: could you update gnucash in kubuntu ;-)	12:18
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JohnFlux	Riddell: 2.0.0 has some terrible crashing bugs	12:18
damiano	hello	12:18
damiano	i have finished to install kubuntu 6.10	12:18
Riddell	JohnFlux: we're in upstream version freeze so it would need to be justified "terrible crashing bugs" sounds like good justification though	12:19
damiano	samba not work! :(	12:19
Riddell	JohnFlux: but it's not my area, you need to find a gnome type in #ubuntu-motu	12:19
damiano	what is the command to start samba?	12:19
Riddell	damiano: if you have it installed it should start automatically	12:19
damiano	yes but not work	12:20
Riddell	JohnFlux: actually edgy has 2.0.1-3ubuntu3	12:20
damiano	damiano@damiano:~$ samba	12:20
damiano	bash: samba: command not found	12:20
damiano	damiano@damiano:~$ sudo samba	12:20
damiano	Password:	12:20
damiano	sudo: samba: command not found	12:20
damiano	damiano@damiano:~$	12:20
octan	damiano, are you trying to run a smba server or just connect to a smba share ?	12:20
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damiano	samba server	12:20
buz_	sudo /etc/init.d/samba start	12:21
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damiano	i trying	12:21
damiano	damiano@damiano:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba start	12:21
damiano	sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found	12:21
damiano	damiano@damiano:~$	12:21
octan	apt-get install samba-common	12:21
D4rkly	how can i enable the amarok kopete song notification thing. i cant find the option anymore ?	12:21
damiano	is installed!	12:21
octan	and apt-get install samba	12:21
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damiano	mmmm samba is obsolete	12:22
octan	damiano nexy go grab swat or webmin to configure it with,, i prefer webmin	12:22
damiano	is it not installed	12:22
octan	hmm	12:22
damiano	damiano@damiano:~$ sudo apt-cache search webmin	12:23
damiano	damiano@damiano:~$	12:23
octan	no thats not in the repsos	12:23
damiano	the problem are the repositiry	12:23
octan	alright	12:23
damiano	i have edgy 6.10	12:23
damiano	i have this:	12:24
damiano	deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted	12:24
damiano	deb-src http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted	12:24
damiano	this..	12:24
damiano	deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted	12:24
damiano	deb-src http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted	12:24
damiano	this.	12:24
damiano	deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted	12:24
damiano	deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted	12:24
damiano	stop.	12:24
octan	OMG	12:24
octan	use psatebin.ca :P	12:25
octan	so what did apt	12:25
octan	so what did apt-get install samba do ?	12:25
cpk2	!info samba	12:26
damiano	the text is in italian :D	12:26
ubotu	samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB	12:26
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damiano	ahahah	12:26
damiano	hey guys	12:26
damiano	i have update	12:27
damiano	the repository	12:27
damiano	and now	12:27
octan	lol	12:27
damiano	samba (downloadin)	12:27
damiano	sorry, i have a bad english	12:27
damiano	:)	12:27
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octan	wget -c http://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/webadmin/webmin_1.300_all.deb	12:28
octan	dpkg -i webmin_1.300_all.deb	12:28
damiano	waht is webmin?	12:28
octan	then open firefox. enter : http://localhost	12:29
octan	damiano, its a tool for configuring servers	12:29
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damiano	damiano@damiano:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-cache search webmin	12:29
damiano	damiano@damiano:/etc/apt$	12:29
octan	like samba. postfix. pop3, firewalls and so on	12:29
octan	damiano, dudjj	12:30
octan	wget -c http://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/webadmin/webmin_1.300_all.deb	12:30
octan	dpkg -i webmin_1.300_all.deb	12:30
damiano	one moment	12:30
damiano	now samba server run	12:30
damiano	damiano@damiano:/etc/apt$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba start	12:30
damiano	* Starting Samba daemons...	12:30
octan	you still need to configure it	12:30
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damiano	but where is the client to get any files to lan?	12:30
octan	!samba-doc	12:31
ubotu	samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 6739 kB, installed size 14452 kB	12:31
octan	damiano, you want it up and running fast?	12:32
octan	do as i tell you :P	12:32
octan	install webmin	12:32
damiano	ok	12:32
damiano	i follow you	12:32
damiano	ok!trasfert complete.	12:33
octan	dpkg -i webmin now	12:34
damiano	now, which directory is good for this program?	12:34
octan	it install into /etc by itself	12:34
damiano	ok perfect	12:34
octan	and it should be intstalled there too	12:34
damiano	ok	12:35
damiano	shit! :D Adept Updater is in progress	12:35
damiano	there is the LOCK!	12:35
octan	yea.. just wait util its finished	12:36
damiano	Ok	12:36
damiano	dpkg -i webmin_1.300_all.deb is the last command?	12:36
octan	right	12:36
damiano	ok (octan sorry my english is bed :D)	12:37
octan	no problem.. mine it too :)	12:38
damiano	:)	12:38
damiano	where are you from?	12:38
octan	norway	12:38
octan	u?	12:38
damiano	italy - rome	12:39
octan	nice.	12:39
damiano	:)	12:40
damiano	kubuntu is so good	12:40
damiano	today i have installed edgy	12:40
octan	i like kubuntu too,	12:40
octan	but why did you install edgy ? its so buggy	12:40
damiano	because my frined has told me that in few days edgy became stable	12:41
damiano	is not true?	12:41
octan	hehe not 100% no :P	12:41
damiano	shit!	12:42
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damiano	how many days area necessary to became stable?	12:42
octan	hard to tell it all depends in the debian developers	12:42
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damiano	ah ok!	12:43
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damiano	i will update edgy every day	12:43
damiano	is better than sarge	12:44
octan	anyway is you adept finished updating ?	12:44
damiano	i have sarge 3.1 until yeasterday	12:44
octan	damiano, sarge is old and stable :P	12:44
damiano	:)	12:44
damiano	yes	12:44
damiano	but too old	12:45
octan	i use it on my server	12:45
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damiano	have you a server?	12:45
damiano	web server?	12:45
octan	no mail server \| pop3 account,, and a ftp server.. and a web,, but no html on there coz im to lazy making a page	12:45
damiano	i have a web agency	12:46
damiano	i make web sites	12:46
damiano	and web software	12:46
octan	aha,	12:46
octan	java ?	12:46
damiano	no php	12:46
damiano	and desktop	12:47
damiano	with java	12:47
damiano	and python	12:47
octan	damiano, i just know how to configure tha shit :P grafics isnt my thingy	12:47
damiano	:)	12:47
octan	is your adept finished ?	12:48
damiano	3 months ago i have worked with windows XP :d	12:48
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damiano	also not.	12:49
damiano	64%	12:49
damiano	there are 151 file to upload	12:49
damiano	:D	12:49
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octan	upgrades ?	12:49
damiano	yes	12:50
octan	ohmy,, thats alot	12:50
damiano	yes	12:51
octan	i havent upgraded in 1 week,, i have 25 paks avaleble	12:51
damiano	ahah lol	12:51
damiano	octan i'm looking for a dedicated web server	12:52
buz_	damiano: where do you live	12:52
buz_	or where do you want the server to be	12:52
octan	dedicated to what ?	12:52
damiano	do you know anything?	12:52
damiano	ROME	12:52
damiano	italy	12:52
octan	apache ?	12:52
buz_	mhh	12:52
damiano	yes	12:52
damiano	why buz_ ?	12:52
buz_	hetzner.de is ok and takes international orders	12:52
octan	:) apache inst that hard	12:53
damiano	is no good for you?	12:53
buz_	nine.ch is quite ok too (can speak english, but not italian)	12:53
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damiano	i'm not speaking in italina	12:53
damiano	italian	12:53
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octan	yea somehow i noticed that,, because i can understand you :P	12:54
damiano	:)	12:54
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damiano	how much a server in your country?	12:55
octan	what you mean? a doimain name or for renting a server ?	12:55
damiano	no no rent a web server	12:56
damiano	no domain name.	12:56
damiano	i want to rent a server	12:56
damiano	for my domains	12:56
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octan	ahh, norway is probealy the wrong contry in that case :P remember we are one of the most expencive countrys in the worls	12:57
damiano	ah ok.	12:57
damiano	because you are rich :D	12:58
octan	well i see one service thats cheap here.	12:58
octan	10 pr mounth	12:58
buz_	germany in general is cheapest in europe	12:58
buz_	for servers i mean	12:58
damiano	10 for month????????	12:58
damiano	what?	12:58
octan	yes	12:58
damiano	for rent a server?	12:59
octan	yea	12:59
damiano	to rent a server?	12:59
damiano	are yuo sure?	12:59
octan	ye	12:59
buz_	you sure this isnt a vserver?	12:59
octan	let me check again	12:59
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damiano	ok	12:59
onur	som1 pls help me	12:59
buz_	help you with what	01:00
damiano	is it impossible here dedicated server start from 100 x month	01:00
buz_	well you can get them for 30E or so	01:00
buz_	but not 10E	01:00
onur	i've a new kubuntu installation but can't install enythink!	01:00
buz_	!repositories	01:00
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	01:00
onur	i wanted to install flash player but it can't be done	01:00
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octan	damiano, www.active24.no/	01:00
octan	translate it yourself :P	01:00
damiano	buz in your country can you to rent about 30 ?	01:00
buz_	in germany you can	01:00
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damiano	ok i check	01:01
buz_	try hetzner.de, 1und1.de, strato.de	01:01
buz_	lets see if i can make sense of norwegian sites	01:01
damiano	but doich is more difficult :D	01:01
octan	lol	01:02
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buz_	hetzner has support in english	01:02
damiano	octan is webhosting	01:02
damiano	no dedicated server	01:02
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octan	oki	01:03
damiano	buz_ web site is slow	01:03
damiano	(hetzner.de)	01:03
damiano	for english version	01:03
onur	who can help me out with mine audio drive i've no sound	01:04
buz_	doesnt seem slow for me	01:04
damiano	buz_ english version?	01:05
octan	damiano, oh right its more expencive,,	01:05
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buz_	uhm wheres the english version	01:05
octan	http://www.multihost.no/?x=dedikertserver&p=priser	01:05
buz_	i cant see the links	01:05
damiano	http://hetzner.de/rootserver_en.html	01:05
buz_	fast for me	01:05
damiano	ok	01:05
buz_	tip from me: take one with two harddisks	01:06
buz_	you want raid	01:06
octan	damiano, http://www.multihost.no/?x=dedikertserver&p=priser here you can chouce you OS yourself	01:06
octan	but the min cost is about the same as in you contry	01:07
octan	100	01:07
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damiano	hey guys i have to go	01:07
damiano	i have add this web site	01:08
damiano	to my prefer	01:08
damiano	so i will visit	01:08
damiano	now i have to go	01:08
octan	alright,, guess we do webmin another tine	01:08
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octan	*time	01:08
damiano	have a nice days	01:08
damiano	meet you here	01:09
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damiano	in these days	01:09
damiano	bye bye	01:09
octan	cya	01:09
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buz_	!LUKS	01:11
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about LUKS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:11
buz_	is there any kde gui to manage luks volume	01:11
octan	is the bot case sencetive?	01:11
octan	!luks	01:11
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:11
octan	nop	01:11
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octan	!userspace	01:12
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about userspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:12
octan	bubble, dont thik so	01:12
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octan	*uz_,	01:12
octan	*buz_,	01:12
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damiano	.	01:25
damiano	octan	01:25
damiano	are you still herE?	01:26
damiano	buz_ ?	01:26
octan	yea	01:26
damiano	ok	01:26
buz_	yes	01:26
damiano	now i have samba	01:26
damiano	and a windows pc	01:26
octan	ok	01:26
damiano	look my pc	01:26
octan	install webmin now	01:26
damiano	one moment	01:26
damiano	but...	01:26
damiano	there is a login	01:26
damiano	why?	01:26
octan	securaty	01:27
damiano	i have to add one user?	01:27
octan	well not realy	01:27
octan	just do dpkg -i webmin	01:27
octan	then open firefox	01:27
octan	type https://localhost	01:27
damiano	ok	01:28
octan	or your ip	01:28
damiano	https ???	01:28
damiano	no http?	01:28
octan	example	01:29
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octan	https://192.168.2.1:10000/	01:29
damiano	there is an error	01:29
octan	use port 10000	01:29
damiano	with any dependences	01:29
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octan	https://127.0.0.1:10000	01:30
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octan	damiano, error while installing webmin?	01:30
damiano	one moment i have to resolve this problem	01:30
damiano	yes	01:30
damiano	with any dependances	01:31
octan	ahh you just need some extra paks	01:31
damiano	ok	01:31
damiano	done.	01:31
damiano	now?	01:31
octan	webmin installed ?	01:31
damiano	yes	01:31
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octan	ok open firefox	01:31
octan	enter in adress bar	01:31
octan	https://127.0.0.1:10000	01:31
damiano	i think (hiow cai i checkl if webmin is correctly installed?)	01:31
octan	/etc/webmin/start	01:32
damiano	mmm there isn't	01:33
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octan	aha,, you must install it again after you downloaded and installed the dependances	01:33
buz_	what happens when i deactivate pdflush?	01:33
buz_	its eating insane amoutns of cpu today	01:33
octan	top	01:34
damiano	yes octan	01:34
damiano	is it true	01:34
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damiano	now i'm installing webmin	01:34
damiano	another time	01:34
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damiano	shit	01:34
damiano	one another error	01:34
damiano	with	01:35
damiano	libauthen-pam-perl	01:35
octan	yes	01:35
octan	you need that too	01:35
damiano	mmm	01:35
damiano	there isn't	01:35
damiano	i nedd to force to install?	01:36
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octan	no	01:36
octan	just apt-get install libauthen-pam-perl	01:36
octan	it should work	01:36
damiano	the pachage is already nominated	01:37
damiano	i can't install this package	01:37
octan	hu?	01:37
octan	what it say	01:37
octan	apt-get install libauthen-pam-perl --fix-missing	01:38
damiano	no	01:38
damiano	don't work!	01:38
damiano	the pachage don't work!	01:39
octan	hmm	01:39
octan	your missing something else..	01:39
octan	ther is like 2 or 3 pkg webmin needs..	01:39
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octan	did you get em all	01:40
ronsen	moin	01:40
damiano	octan can i disinstall this package?	01:40
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octan	damiano, yes	01:40
octan	dpkg -r pak	01:40
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damiano	no i have to install this package with	01:41
damiano	apt-get	01:41
damiano	is runnig	01:41
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ronsen	ger?	01:41
ronsen	#ronesen	01:42
octan	damiano, let me show you what you need	01:42
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octan	Depends: bash, perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl, libauthen-pam-perl, libpam-runtime, libio-pty-perl	01:42
octan	damiano, you need thouse paks	01:42
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damiano	i know	01:43
damiano	mm	01:43
damiano	no i'm trying	01:43
damiano	komba	01:43
damiano	do you know?	01:43
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octan	it suxz compared	01:43
octan	to webmin	01:43
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damiano	ah ok	01:45
damiano	i try	01:45
octan	damiano run this command	01:45
octan	apt-get install perl libnet-ssleay-perl openssl libauthen-pam-perl libpam-runtime libio-pty-perl	01:45
octan	in one command	01:45
damiano	don't work because i don't have this package libauthen-pam-perl	01:45
octan	yes i know	01:46
octan	but that pak need thise ones to work	01:46
octan	perlapi-5.8.7, perl (>= 5.8.7-5ubuntu1), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libpam0g (>= 0.76)	01:46
damiano	so i have to try	01:46
damiano	komba	01:46
octan	dont give up so fast	01:46
octan	your a quiter :P	01:47
damiano	:)	01:47
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octan	my mom sayd to me once..people dont like quiters :P	01:47
damiano	to launch	01:47
damiano	i go to launch	01:48
octan	alright	01:48
damiano	ok	01:48
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creaphot	does anyone knows an easy way to decrease font size on the console (not the konsole in kde of course)?	01:52
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octan	in tty?	01:52
creaphot	yes	01:53
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octan	sorry	01:53
octan	enable framebuffer pherhaps with sme font stuff	01:53
creaphot	well i'll do some manpage browsing :-)	01:54
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damiano	octan...	02:01
octan	yes	02:01
damiano	i can't install	02:01
damiano	komba	02:01
octan	and i tould you not to :P	02:01
damiano	there is an error	02:01
damiano	checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no	02:01
damiano	configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.	02:01
damiano	damiano@damiano:~/programmi/komba2-0.7.3$	02:01
octan	dont use koma. its a crapy ting	02:01
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octan	let figure out why webmin wount install	02:02
damiano	but it is an gcc error	02:02
damiano	why??????	02:02
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octan	i tould you like 10 times.. koma suxz	02:02
octan	*komba	02:02
damiano	ok but	02:02
damiano	is not a komba	02:02
damiano	error	02:02
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damiano	gcc	02:02
damiano	ha a problem!!!	02:02
octan	g++ error	02:03
damiano	ok g++ jhas a problem	02:03
octan	why wount you install webmin?	02:03
octan	and insist on this komba.	02:03
damiano	no i want to install webmin	02:03
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damiano	but why this error??'	02:04
octan	you probealy misssing some gcc stuff	02:04
damiano	./configure	02:04
damiano	no??	02:04
octan	what are you doing? you are still messing with komba	02:05
damiano	yes	02:05
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damiano	i want install	02:05
damiano	webmin	02:05
damiano	but	02:05
damiano	why thios error	02:05
damiano	i qant to know	02:05
damiano	why?	02:05
octan	well 1st check how old is komba ?	02:05
damiano	komba 0.73	02:06
octan	no.. not version..	02:06
octan	when was the lasted release made public ?	02:06
damiano	no is a targ.gz	02:06
damiano	i don' know	02:06
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octan	ther might me be many reasons you got that error.. but most like dude to wrong gcc	02:08
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damiano	but is possible taht gcc not work fine	02:08
damiano	?	02:08
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octan	no.. you are probealy using gcc4.x and that app might have been made for gcc2.2 for all you know	02:09
snikker	how can i know how to wich device is connected my usb bluetooth pen?	02:09
damiano	ah ok	02:09
damiano	is it possible?	02:09
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damiano	perfect i don't want reinstall kubuntu :D	02:10
octan	do this. apt-get install libpam0g and lets get webmin working	02:10
damiano	The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:	02:10
damiano	libnet-ssleay-perl libio-pty-perl	02:10
damiano	Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.	02:10
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octan	damiano, you ther might also be a big chance your missing the basic build tools nessesary to compile	02:10
octan	like make	02:11
octan	autoconf	02:11
octan	automake	02:11
octan	erc etc etc	02:11
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octan	damiano, good	02:11
damiano	i need to instasll this tools	02:11
octan	next is to	02:11
octan	apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl	02:11
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D4rkly	does anyone know how i can convert mp3 to mp4 audio ?	02:11
octan	then apt-get install libio-pty-perl	02:12
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damiano	The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:	02:12
damiano	libnet-ssleay-perl libio-pty-perl	02:12
damiano	Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.	02:12
octan	ok..	02:12
octan	and now try	02:13
octan	apt-get install perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl, libauthen-pam-perl, libpam-runtime, libio-pty-perl	02:13
D4rkly	apt-get autoremove doesnt work ?	02:13
damiano	impossible to found perl	02:13
D4rkly	is it the same as apt-get autoclean	02:13
octan	erm dont use comma	02:13
octan	apt-get install perl libnet-ssleay-perl openssl libauthen-pam-perl libpam-runtime libio-pty-perl	02:14
octan	no co,,a	02:14
damiano	ok	02:14
damiano	libauthen-pam-perl has no version avalaible	02:15
octan	damiano, you said it was a fresh install of edgy ?	02:15
octan	damiano, open synaptic	02:15
damiano	yes	02:15
octan	and enter thouse names manualy in synaptic	02:15
damiano	don't have synaptic	02:15
octan	get it	02:15
damiano	ok	02:15
octan	apt-get install synaptic	02:15
damiano	ok ok	02:16
D4rkly	anyone know how i can convert mp3 to m4a to save space on my phone ?	02:16
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octan	D4rkly, save it as m4a ?	02:17
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D4rkly	how ?	02:17
D4rkly	:)	02:17
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octan	cp mp3 m4a ?	02:17
damiano	done.	02:17
D4rkly	really ?	02:17
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D4rkly	surely that wont compress the mp3 to m4a (mp4) ?	02:18
octan	D4rkly, no i dont know,, i know m4a is some simple format of mp4	02:18
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octan	damiano, so look up the names in it :)	02:18
damiano	ok	02:18
aftertaf	whoah.... konversation is really different..!!!	02:19
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undac0va	hey... can someone help me with a resolution problem?	02:20
D4rkly	looks like this may work audiokonverter	02:20
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damiano	libauthen-pam-perl <-- there isn't this package	02:21
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octan	what about just pam-perl ?	02:21
D4rkly	put all wanted resolutions into xorg.conf. i got 1366x768 :)	02:21
octan	i got 1600x1200 :d	02:21
octan	:D	02:21
undac0va	<- newbie, how would i go about doing that	02:21
undac0va	?	02:21
damiano	octan	02:22
damiano	only	02:22
octan	yes	02:22
damiano	one package	02:22
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damiano	libauthen-pam-perl <--- this	02:22
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octan	hu?	02:22
damiano	what can i do now?	02:22
octan	hmm why is edgy missing it.. hmm maybe you forgot to enable a repo ?	02:23
D4rkly	wow i just discovered NeroLINUX	02:23
damiano	i don't know	02:23
octan	D4rkly, use k3b	02:23
octan	damiano, odd	02:23
damiano	octan pvt	02:23
octan	ok	02:23
[GuS]	K3b ys much much better than Nero...	02:24
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damiano	pvt don't work	02:24
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damiano	because i'm not a user registraded	02:25
damiano	[12:23] <damiano> deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted	02:25
damiano	[12:23] <damiano> deb-src http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted	02:25
D4rkly	k3b seems to have problems with my writer or my discs	02:25
damiano	[12:23] <damiano> deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted	02:25
damiano	[12:23] <damiano> deb-src http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted	02:25
damiano	[12:23] <damiano> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted	02:25
damiano	[12:23] <damiano> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted	02:25
octan	stop	02:25
octan	stop	02:25
octan	stop	02:25
damiano	stop	02:25
damiano	.	02:25
octan	use pastebin.ca	02:25
damiano	finish repository	02:25
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damiano	http://pastebin.ca/191830	02:26
octan	damiano, backup your source.kist	02:26
octan	and try this one instead	02:26
octan	http://pastebin.ca/191831	02:27
damiano	ok	02:27
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aftertaf	nerolinux?	02:29
octan	use k3b :P	02:29
aftertaf	i do :)	02:29
aftertaf	but if its eating your dvds..... :/	02:29
damiano	ops	02:29
damiano	mc command	02:30
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damiano	mv command	02:30
damiano	what do?	02:30
aftertaf	it moves files...	02:30
damiano	mmm	02:31
damiano	one moment	02:31
octan	damiano, run this command	02:31
octan	/msg nickserv registrer	02:31
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octan	in you xchat	02:31
undac0va	how would i install gedit if it says the package cannot be found?	02:31
aftertaf	register :)	02:31
aftertaf	with apt	02:32
damiano	one moment	02:32
aftertaf	but use kate instead	02:32
aftertaf	kde :)	02:32
undac0va	should i use this? sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kate /usr/bin/gedit	02:32
octan	NO	02:32
octan	why?	02:32
octan	wtf	02:32
aftertaf	wtf indeed	02:33
aftertaf	no undac0va use kate	02:33
damiano	actan	02:33
damiano	i have update	02:33
damiano	the repository	02:33
damiano	now?	02:34
octan	ok.	02:34
octan	try again,, is it ther now?	02:34
octan	pam-perl	02:34
damiano	apt-get install perl libnet-ssleay-perl openssl libauthen-pam-perl libpam-runtime libio-pty-perl <---this	02:34
octan	right	02:34
damiano	ok i try	02:35
damiano	perfect	02:36
damiano	without any error!!	02:36
damiano	now?	02:36
undac0va	sorry to be so stupid.. but i am new.. i have opened xorg.conf.. where would i put the resolution i require? and in what format?	02:36
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octan	dpkg -i webmin	02:37
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octan	damiano, im stund that it worked :P	02:38
octan	i did cat /etc/apt/sources.list \| sed -s 's/dapper/edgy/'	02:38
octan	on my source.list	02:38
octan	:p	02:38
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damiano	what?	02:39
damiano	i don't undestand	02:39
octan	go to the dir you downloaded webmin	02:39
octan	cd /path	02:39
damiano	yes	02:39
octan	dpkg . webmin.blah.deb	02:40
damiano	yes yes	02:40
octan	dpkg -i	02:40
octan	installed ?	02:40
undac0va	can anyone help with the resolution? or at least point me to a file that may help?	02:40
damiano	oooooooooooo perfect!!!!!!	02:40
damiano	Webmin install complete. You can now login to https://damiano:10000/	02:40
damiano	as root with your root password, or as any user who can use sudo	02:40
damiano	to run commands as root.	02:40
octan	:D	02:40
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zorglu_	undac0va: use the kmenu. kmenu -> system setting -> display -> administrator mode	02:40
octan	you should disable root login thou	02:40
damiano	what?	02:41
damiano	:)	02:41
octan	damiano, next.. open firefox	02:41
octan	enter	02:41
octan	https://damiano:10000/	02:41
octan	go to servers	02:41
damiano	yes not work!	02:41
undac0va	yea, i did that.. but the only mode i can choose is 640x480	02:41
damiano	impossible to connect	02:41
octan	you need to start it forst	02:41
undac0va	i want to use a higher res	02:41
damiano	ok	02:41
octan	/etc/webmin/start	02:41
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damiano	ok perfect	02:42
octan	go to servers	02:42
octan	you see it?	02:42
damiano	yeeeeeeeeeeeeah	02:42
damiano	there is a login	02:42
octan	thers some samba windows stuff there	02:42
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damiano	mmm i check	02:43
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damiano	i nedd to install	02:44
damiano	smbd	02:44
octan	it can be done in webmin	02:44
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damiano	ok octan	02:44
serzholino	fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory	02:44
damiano	now i have to go	02:44
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damiano	to job	02:44
ruffy	hey all	02:45
serzholino	how can i create this /dev/fuse	02:45
serzholino	?	02:45
damiano	thanks you so much	02:45
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ruffy	anyone know of a program that will open microsoft publisher files?	02:45
damiano	this night i'm here	02:45
damiano	bye	02:45
damiano	have a nice day	02:45
aftertaf	ruffy, neer heard of one	02:45
octan	cyqa	02:45
damiano	bye bye	02:45
damiano	octan now delete your sources.list?	02:45
octan	no	02:46
octan	use it	02:46
octan	its better than yours	02:46
damiano	ok thanks	02:46
damiano	bye i goo	02:46
ruffy	aftertaf: seriously, there's no program capable of this?	02:46
ruffy	why not?	02:46
octan	what files?	02:46
physicsnick	ruffy, sure, microsoft publisher will open microsoft publisher files	02:46
ruffy	physicsnick: lol, besides that	02:47
ruffy	any linux programs	02:47
physicsnick	doubt it	02:47
octan	openoffice ?	02:47
physicsnick	you can probably get it working in wine	02:47
zorglu_	ruffy: describe what is 'microsoft publisher'	02:47
aftertaf	tried google?	02:47
ruffy	octan: nope	02:47
ruffy	aftertaf: yep	02:47
aftertaf	insulting qu. i know :)	02:47
ruffy	zorglu_: microsoft publisher is a program meant for publication of things such as books, magazines, and newspapers	02:47
ruffy	file extension is .pub	02:48
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aftertaf	http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-applications/7985-microsoft-publisher.html	02:48
aftertaf	best i can find	02:48
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zorglu_	ruffy: the linux equivalent is scribus, dunno if it is possible to import microsof tpublisher	02:49
aftertaf	dont think so. proprietary, like visio	02:50
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ruffy	zorglu_: thnx	02:51
beligum	Hi all, what's the best way to define custom keyboard shortcuts on Linux? I need something to tie key-combinations to commands.	02:51
ruffy	thats so annoying	02:51
ruffy	whats so special about publisher	02:51
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ruffy	al the other microsoft office programs are supported	02:51
aftertaf	ask the same about ms in general	02:51
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ruffy	the answer about ms is nothing at all	02:51
aftertaf	ruffy: cos theyve managed to reverse engineer them...	02:51
ruffy	and we haven;t managed to reverse engineer publisher because....?	02:52
aftertaf	beligum: in kde? conctrol centre can do that	02:52
zorglu_	ruffy: microsoft design their file format to be vary hard to be compatible with, it is made on purpose. so it is hard to be compatible	02:52
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aftertaf	because ^	02:52
aftertaf	unfortunately.	02:52
aftertaf	get them to convert it to another format first.	02:52
aftertaf	http://nashi.altmuehlnet.de/pipermail/scribus/2006-June/018393.html	02:53
beligum	aftertaf: I need something at the X11-level	02:53
aftertaf	another p.o;v.	02:53
aftertaf	beligum: ahh..... i dont know.	02:53
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ruffy	zorglu_: yes i know -_-	02:54
octan	wb damiano	02:54
ruffy	how well does publisher work with wine?	02:54
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aftertaf	ruffy: whats the story with this file? cant you export it?	02:54
octan	ruffy, are you sure thers no app that read thouse kida files.. in the kde office pacK?	02:54
aftertaf	crossover office (not free) it works fine i hear	02:54
damiano	octan	02:55
octan	im here	02:55
damiano	sorry	02:55
damiano	one thing	02:55
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damiano	the sources.list	02:55
octan	yes	02:55
damiano	your sourcers.list	02:55
damiano	is	02:55
damiano	for egdy?	02:55
octan	not realy.. but i made it for edgy by cat /source.list \| sed -s 's/dapper/edgy/'	02:56
octan	damiano, sed -s 's/dapper/edgy/' does replace all dapper names with edgy	02:57
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damiano	ok	02:57
aftertaf	crap. my kicker just crashed because of kbfx	02:57
damiano	octan	02:58
damiano	in samba	02:58
damiano	now	02:58
damiano	samba now work fine	02:58
damiano	but a windows pc	02:58
damiano	need a user e password	02:58
damiano	to access in my computer	02:58
octan	yes.	02:58
damiano	i have to add an user?	02:58
octan	just get rid of it	02:58
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damiano	?	02:58
octan	well you need to make the dir readeble for all users without password	02:59
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damiano	you know how can i do	02:59
damiano	?	02:59
octan	Allow null passwords? set it to yes	03:00
damiano	in smb.conf?	03:00
octan	no in webmin	03:00
octan	under Authentication	03:00
aftertaf	anyone else lost their user config applet in edgy?	03:01
octan	and	03:01
damiano	PAM Authentication ????	03:01
octan	under File Share Defaults	03:01
octan	Security and Access Control	03:01
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octan	Guest Access? = yes	03:01
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damiano	i don't found	03:03
damiano	this	03:03
damiano	1st menu?	03:03
octan	ok.. click on	03:03
octan	Create a new file share.	03:03
octan	Share name you name	03:04
damiano	mmm	03:04
damiano	not found!!!!	03:04
damiano	Create a new file share. <--- this	03:04
octan	open webmin	03:04
octan	login	03:04
damiano	one momento	03:04
octan	go to servers	03:04
octan	go to samba	03:04
damiano	i'm on https://damiano:10000/	03:04
damiano	ok	03:04
octan	see servers on to	03:04
damiano	The Samba server executable /usr/local/samba/bin/smbd was not found. Either Samba is not installed on your system or your module configuration is incorrect.	03:04
octan	click on the module config	03:05
damiano	ok	03:05
octan	what is say	03:05
damiano	Configurable options	03:05
damiano	System configuration	03:05
octan	ok	03:06
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octan	damiano, can i speak to you in pvt ?	03:06
octan	pm	03:06
damiano	ok	03:06
damiano	qhery me	03:06
nicolnx_	sorry, I haven't seen the beginning of youir discussion, but maybe just setting securyty = share will resolve your trouble	03:06
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damiano	mmm you don' receive my message	03:07
damiano	tell me	03:07
damiano	how cai i register a nick?	03:07
octan	you need to reg	03:07
octan	/msg nickserver help	03:07
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aftertaf	ok, sleep time.	03:08
octan	/msg nickserver register	03:08
damiano	[13:07] <-> nickserver> register	03:08
damiano	[13:07] [Error] nickserver: No such nick/channel.	03:08
damiano	why?	03:08
octan	i forgot howto	03:08
zorglu_	!register	03:08
ubotu	Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration	03:08
octan	/msg NickServ REGISTER	03:09
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zorglu_	octan: damiano: an easy/fast work around is to go on a channel created by you too. e.g. /join #octananddiniamodiscussion	03:10
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octan	yes	03:10
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zorglu_	and now the channel is all quiet :)	03:13
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aftertaf	:)	03:16
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Codemaster	hey guys, I'm having a few dependency problems - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271568	03:19
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zorglu_	i see 2 options	03:20
zorglu_	1. using --force in apt-get to make it ignore the dependency	03:21
zorglu_	2. get the package it is asking for	03:21
zorglu_	both may become quite painfull	03:21
zorglu_	and i would not attempt any on those on my personnal box :)	03:21
zorglu_	but other here may have better solution, or in #ubuntu-xgl	03:22
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n3storm	hi everyone	03:28
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Codemaster	thanks, zorglu_	03:29
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letmagnau	hi can i have some help?	03:30
letmagnau	how i can opens iso file?	03:30
letmagnau	exist an application like alcohol?	03:31
n3storm	lemagnau: acetone	03:31
n3storm	:D	03:31
n3storm	letmagnau: acetone	03:31
letmagnau	tnz so much	03:31
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n3storm	letmagnau: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44805	03:32
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letmagnau	tus isn't	03:34
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n3storm	tus isn't?	03:35
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letmagnau	the apps ins't in repos	03:38
letmagnau	i've download form net	03:39
letmagnau	now i'm installing	03:39
wildchild	I have prob	03:40
wildchild	is there someone whos' ready to sit with me aobut that..	03:40
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wildchild	I can't completely remove firefox	03:40
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segfault	wildchild, what do u mean completely	03:40
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wildchild	some packages can't be removed :S	03:41
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thompa	how can i tell for sure which hard drive MBR grub is on?	03:41
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thompa	I have a sata and an IDE, I think its on the IDE, I need it that way cause on the sata I get boot errors	03:41
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segfault	thompa, if u had ubunut install grub on mbr, the mbr is on the disk ur bios points to to boot first	03:42
segfault	wildchild, if u want an answer u have to provide more details	03:43
wildchild	doesn't metter	03:43
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wildchild	I've solved the prob :)	03:43
letmagnau	i can't install it	03:43
wildchild	all I have to do was: apt-get -f install	03:44
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letmagnau	how i can istall it?	03:44
wildchild	couse I have 2 ersions of firefox installed	03:44
thompa	segfault: In bios I am booting from IDE first, and I have there grub entries for both drives, so I guess its IDE, ,,good	03:44
wildchild	had*	03:44
segfault	letmagnau, if downloaded the .deb do sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb	03:45
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thompa	segfault: I can boot from the sata if its first, ubuntu install is there also, but I get various grub errors, especially if its been off for a while	03:46
letmagnau	the file is kmdr	03:46
letmagnau	extension	03:46
Dr_willis	"can't" vs "dont know how. ;)	03:46
letmagnau	dont know how....i'm novice	03:47
Dr_willis	what is it supposed tobe letmagnau ?	03:47
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thompa	the boot errors are happening with all sata drives in new HP AMD 64s	03:47
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segfault	letmagnau, go back to that page and download the .deb file and use the dpkg method i described aboe	03:48
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segfault	letmagnau, also fyi u can mount an iso using mount, man mount for more info	03:49
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wildchild	does anyone know why firefox32 on kubuntu66 wouldn't play sound when I look smth from youtube	03:50
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thompa	wildchild: does it use flash?	03:51
wildchild	yes	03:51
octan	mount -o loop that loop	03:51
wildchild	octan?	03:51
octan	nothing	03:51
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thompa	wildchild: last I checked , you need maybe newer flash version for some sites	03:51
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wildchild	thompa how do I update it	03:51
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thompa	eg comedy central wont work at all	03:51
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wildchild	how can I remove firefox32 (I've installed it throuh script - it wasnn't in an APT)	03:53
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wrabbit	I've joined the fold :)	03:55
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wildchild	that's weired when I shud down all the progs that they usess sound flash works..	03:57
wildchild	how can I solve that pronb	03:57
wildchild	I don't wanna just shud down the progs that uses soud just to watch a clip on you tube	03:57
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zamaliphe	hi all	04:04
zamaliphe	what boot loader dose kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso use ??	04:05
Dr_willis	grub	04:05
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Dr_willis	or do you mean what is the CD using to boot?	04:06
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zamaliphe	Dr_willis: yes	04:06
Dr_willis	no clue there.. :) i dont mess with building live cd's	04:06
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zamaliphe	Dr_willis: the problem is my writer is broken and i used to boot from the ISO files by adding some lines to my grub	04:09
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zamaliphe	bu now i find some sing defrunt and i don't know what to do with it	04:10
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Dr_willis	heh - ive never seen that trick done befor	04:12
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onur	how can i install flash player 4 kubuntu??????	04:13
Dr_willis	!flash	04:13
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:13
Dr_willis	flash is getting more and more messed up every day.	04:13
Dr_willis	all these sites are demanding flash 8 - which is not out for linux yet.. but can be slapped into working i her with wine.	04:14
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onur	yeah but i need flash	04:14
onur	where can i find it for kubuntu	04:14
Dr_willis	thers some packages you install	04:14
Dr_willis	!flash showed the info	04:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about flash showed the info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	04:14
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Dr_willis	!flash	04:15
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:15
onur	i tried the offical site of flash player when i download it (it is for linux) try to open it doens work	04:15
Hawkwind	onur: Linux only has flash 7 and a lot of sites require 8 or newer which we won't get version 9 til after the first of the year	04:15
onur	i know that it works for ubuntu cause i tried it on scool	04:15
onur	but kubuntu give's me problems	04:16
Dr_willis	See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats	04:16
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Dr_willis	ubuntu and kubuntu should be both using the same flash packages.. its often the web site, updating things that cause the issues..	04:18
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onur	hmm but i have Ubuntu @ school en Kubuntu @ home i've used the offcial site of flash player @ ubuntu that was a succes	04:20
onur	but i wanted 2 do the same 4 kubuntu and it doesn't work!:S	04:20
grasmeer	Hi! Is there anyone, who is using 6.10 with the latest binary nvidia driver... success?	04:21
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pawnhearts	gnasmeer it works for 30 secs and then X dies	04:21
grasmeer	oh....	04:21
grasmeer	After loooooooooooong struggeling it worked with 6.06 (BUT: NO hibernate, probs with dualview....)	04:22
octan	!flash	04:23
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shadowraven	anyone know what happen with my wireless? i updated a few packages and now it doesnt work?	04:24
pawnhearts	grasmeer i just switched to non-proprietary driver	04:24
grasmeer	@pawnhearts: Did yor system worked again after the installation of nvidia?	04:24
shadowraven	or better yet, point me to how to fix my wireless	04:25
pawnhearts	grasmeer yes. it worked, i could do anything for ~30-60 seconds then it freezes and don't react on keyboard/mouse	04:25
shadowraven	i have that dell intel pro card	04:25
grasmeer	@pawnhearts: just thinking of installing XGL Desktop: will i need these binary driver?	04:25
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grasmeer	@shadowsraven: what is the problem with your wireless?	04:26
pawnhearts	grasmeer just now i'm working on a laptop with kubuntu and ati. same thing, proprietary ati drivers won't work with last updates, but non-proprietary driver is good and supports opengl etc	04:26
shadowraven	it says i dont have one now	04:26
shadowraven	its duelboot so i booted it up in crashdows and the wireless works	04:27
grasmeer	@shadowraven: didnt get you: detecting no card?	04:27
segfault	shadowraven, ipw3945? u need the restricted modules pkg installed for ur kernel	04:27
pawnhearts	<grasmeer> it seems "nv" driver don't support opengl	04:27
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segfault	pawnhearts, that is correct u need the proprietary nvidia driver for opengl	04:28
shadowraven	yes i got : detecting no card	04:28
grasmeer	@pawnhearts: there is a screensaver with opengl: it workes with my nvidia card....	04:28
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shadowraven	and yes its the ipw3945 card	04:29
segfault	shadowraven, u need the restricted modules pkg installed for ur kernel	04:29
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shadowraven	everything worked for about a month, untill i updated kubuntu yesterday	04:30
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segfault	shadowraven, again u need the restricted modules pkg installed for ur kernel	04:30
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shadowraven	ok, i will do that. Not sure how tho	04:31
segfault	shadowraven, if u updated the kernel it is possible u did not update that pkg	04:31
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segfault	shadowraven, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`	04:31
shadowraven	thank you	04:32
segfault	np	04:32
pawnhearts	there is a sort of opengl emulation in mesagl afair. so opengl works,but slow.	04:32
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grasmeer	that is why i want these original driver... because it is faster...	04:32
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grasmeer	but i am to lazy to install nvidia: partimage whole system, installing nvidia, repairing wireless, loosing hibernation and so on...	04:34
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Arlington	hi. i'am wondering what hibernation is... can someone explain	04:35
pawnhearts	i've had installed restricted-modules for current kernel, but nvidia driver freezes after minute of work	04:35
grasmeer	Has anyone a trick: nvidia driver AND linux restricted modules (But WITHOUT these non prop. driver nv??)	04:35
grasmeer	Hibernation is cool: freezing your system, later waking it up again and start at the same position...	04:36
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Dr_willis	and sometimes it even works!	04:36
Dr_willis	:)	04:36
Dr_willis	normally the systems crash soon afterwards...	04:36
Dr_willis	for me.	04:36
grasmeer	Since 6.10 it works (But not suspend...)	04:36
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grasmeer	:-)	04:37
Dr_willis	of course when you move from work to home and plug in a dozzen different devices.. and then wake up....	04:37
Dr_willis	it can confuse thangs.	04:37
muthana	how remove gaim	04:38
segfault	suspend and hibernate work for me using nvidia proprietary driver	04:38
shadowraven	@segfault: i get counldnt find package linux........	04:38
grasmeer	wow!	04:38
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grasmeer	@segfault: with 6.10?	04:38
segfault	shadowraven, please post here exactly as u type	04:38
segfault	grasmeer, yea	04:38
segfault	grasmeer, err wait sry 6.06	04:39
segfault	grasmeer, i saw 6. and just agreed :)	04:39
grasmeer	@segfault: edgy eft... no numbers.. :-)	04:39
shadowraven	ok	04:40
Arlington	!hibernate	04:40
ubotu	hibernate: activates your computer's suspend functionality. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 328 kB	04:40
segfault	shadowraven, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`	04:40
segfault	shadowraven, note the ` is a backtick, on same key as ~	04:40
shadowraven	sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-'uname -r'	04:40
segfault	shadowraven, right replace ' with `	04:40
shadowraven	pl	04:40
shadowraven	ok	04:41
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segfault	grasmeer, but yea suspend and hibernate have been working well for me, i was surprised as this laptop is pretty new	04:42
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shadowraven	E: Coundlnt find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386	04:42
grasmeer	segfault: mine is new too... but it was ugly...this hibernation...	04:42
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grasmeer	@shadowraven: try adept: looking for linux restricted modules, and then the right kernel number...	04:44
segfault	shadowraven, run sudo apt-get update first, its there i just checked	04:44
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grasmeer	Anyone who is using Kaudiocreator with the lame encoder (edgy eft, 6.10?)	04:45
silox	hi, anyone here thats good on laptop, extra screen combinations?	04:46
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abattoir	grasmeer: why? what's the problem?	04:46
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grasmeer	Installation of lame failed...	04:46
pestilence	how do i get evolution to open links in firefox in kubuntu?	04:46
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segfault	silox, just ask someone may be able to help	04:46
segfault	pestilence, what does it open links in now	04:46
berkes	any mplayer/mencoder gurus in here?	04:47
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shadowraven	@seafualt: ok i did that but got the same responce after when i tried	04:47
pestilence	segfault: it doesn't	04:47
segfault	u in kde?	04:47
pestilence	segfault: yes	04:47
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berkes	I made an mpeg (screencast) but it is playing too fast. I need to slow it down, but cannot find the options for it.	04:47
abattoir	grasmeer: installation goes well here	04:47
trappist	berkes: you might have better luck asking a specific question. most people aren't going to say 'yeah I'm your guru' without knowing what you're looking for.	04:48
pestilence	segfault: i used to use ubuntu, i think that messed it up (but i switched to kubuntu a while back)	04:48
silox	i have a Dell Dimension 8100 Laptop with a extra screen connected to it, so i am not using the laptop screen. But there one problem, i cant watch movies on the extra screen, it works if i unplug the extra screen and watch it on the laptop... Whats the problem?	04:48
trappist	oh :)	04:48
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trappist	berkes: if you do { while playing, it will cut the playback speed in half	04:49
shadowraven	@seafualt: I get the same issue as before i updated	04:49
segfault	pestilence, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and select firefox	04:49
Hawkwind	trappist: Mornin`	04:49
trappist	berkes: or if you say mplayer -speed 0.50 file.mpg, that'll do the same thing	04:49
trappist	mornin Hawkwind	04:49
berkes	trappist: but I need a file with a slower play speed.	04:49
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Hawkwind	trappist: Mind if I PM ya ?	04:50
berkes	its for distribution. :)	04:50
josh_	who in here uses 3ddesktop?	04:50
trappist	Hawkwind: like I said, any time :)	04:50
silox	please doesnt anyone know what to do :P	04:50
trappist	berkes: how did you make the file	04:50
josh_	silox: what are you trying to do?	04:50
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silox	i have a Dell Dimension 8100 Laptop with a extra screen connected to it, so i am not using the laptop screen. But there one problem, i cant watch movies on the extra screen, it works if i unplug the extra screen and watch it on the laptop... Whats the problem?	04:50
segfault	shadowraven, u have dapper-security repository in sources.list	04:50
berkes	trappist: with screenkast.	04:51
josh_	silox: sounds like whatever program your using doesn't recognize you are using a different screen	04:51
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shadowraven	@segfault: what is the best way to check that?	04:52
silox	josh: hmm yeah the video image youst turns blue... reminds me about the same issue I had in Windows when i had 2 screens	04:52
pestilence	segfault: that didn't seem to do anything.	04:53
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josh_	what program are you using to play?	04:53
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josh_	who using 3ddesktop in here?	04:53
silox	josh_: vlc, mplayer etc... its the same in all of them	04:53
josh_	hmm	04:53
shadowraven	@segfault: i dont see it under usr/bin	04:53
trappist	Riddell: sure (re: ops)	04:53
segfault	pestilence, umm, wait i think u have to set that in the kde control panel under default apps or something similar	04:54
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silox	:/ i've asked on some forums but i havent got any clear answers	04:54
josh_	i dont have a second screen so i cant really walk you through it	04:55
josh_	do you use kaffine?	04:55
shadowraven	@segfault: i DL it and i is installed	04:55
silox	kk	04:55
silox	no	04:55
segfault	shadowraven, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure that repository is there	04:55
segfault	shadowraven, o ok cool	04:55
trappist	berkes: try this: mencoder foo.mpg -oac copy -ovc copy -speed 0.50 -o newfile.mpg	04:55
josh_	silox: try kaffine... it might do it	04:56
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weedar	Is there a way to turn off/on the touchpad on a laptop? After suspend the touchpad is dead, but connecting a usb mouse works just fine	04:56
silox	josh_; okey, installing now ^^	04:56
silox	i really love the apt-get command xD	04:57
segfault	weedar, u might try unloading and reloading the module, prolly evdev	04:57
josh_	lol silox	04:57
josh_	yeah it sure beats tracking down dependancies	04:57
shadowraven	@segfault: still getting that same	04:58
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berkes	trappist: it seems to make no difference :(	04:58
weedar	segfault: what is the preferred way to do that?	04:58
weedar	evdev is loaded, by the way	04:58
silox	josh_: will try now ^^	04:59
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josh_	ok	04:59
weedar	Running "modprobe -r evdev" tells me the module is in use, so that isn't it	04:59
fumasterdk	WHats is the difference between gstreamer....ugly and gstreamer....ugly-multiverse	04:59
fumasterdk	Which of the 2 should I install??	05:00
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trappist	berkes: sorry, that was all I had :)	05:01
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silox	josh_: its the same problem :/	05:02
josh_	hmm	05:02
segfault	weedar, modprobe -r evdev; modprobe evdev	05:02
grasmeer	@abattoir: which paket did you you for kaudiocreator with lame encoder (lame, gstreamer, ...? )?	05:02
abattoir	grasmeer: lame	05:02
josh_	only thing i can think of is to change your bios settings to load the external display first	05:03
segfault	shadowraven, u have dapper-security repository in sources.list?	05:03
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weedar	segfault: as I said I am unable to run "modprobe -r evdev" successfully, it complains about the module being in use :)	05:03
silox	josh_ and how do i do that on a Dell bios? :P	05:03
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josh_	when you start your computer i think on dell its either f1 or delete to get into the bios	05:04
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shadowraven	@segfault: dapper-security main and dapper-security universe and multiverse	05:04
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segfault	shadowraven, have ran apt-get update since those were enabled	05:04
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silox	yes but my bios sucks, Dell A15, i havent seen any option where i can disable the screen... :/	05:05
shadowraven	@segfault: yes	05:05
josh_	there isn't anything for the video?	05:05
segfault	shadowraven, please type install cmd here exactly as u type in console	05:06
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silox	no i dont think so	05:06
silox	:/	05:06
josh_	hmm...	05:06
josh_	lol and that is why i wont buy a dell :P	05:06
shadowraven	@segfault: sudo apt-get update	05:06
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segfault	shadowraven, the install command	05:07
silox	yes i know hehe :P	05:07
josh_	i would look up info on your modes....	05:07
josh_	lemme see if i can find the file you need to look at	05:07
silox	ok thx :)	05:07
shadowraven	@segfault: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`	05:08
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silox	josh_: is there any pirate bios for dell? ^^	05:09
segfault	shadowraven, u r running 386	05:10
shadowraven	yes	05:10
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segfault	shadowraven, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386	05:10
segfault	try that	05:10
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josh_	... interesting question... i have never looked that up	05:10
josh_	use your google-fu young grasshoppa	05:10
josh_	/etc/X11/xorg.conf	05:11
josh_	thats the one for your display	05:11
josh_	u might need to add another display monitor section to taht	05:11
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josh_	google info on external display xorg.conf settings	05:11
silox	yeah fucked that up a few days ago so the X wouldnt start up but i managed to fix it again ^^	05:12
josh_	lol	05:12
grasmeer	abattoir: installed lame, started kaudiocreator: ripping one title, then error: genre wrong, just because of this?	05:12
josh_	then nevermind... dont touch it :P	05:12
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shadowraven	@segfault: E: couldnt find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-383	05:12
jordi_	hi all	05:12
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segfault	shadowraven, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386	05:12
segfault	not 383	05:12
silox	hehe but that was a really big misstake, i will google some more and come back here ;)	05:13
abattoir	grasmeer: well, i guess the genre is blank or something, set it or set it to other, see if it continues	05:13
shadowraven	@segfault: E: couldnt find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 sorry	05:13
josh_	rgr	05:13
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grasmeer	abattorit: same again: Unknown genre: 'Unknown'. Specify genre name or number	05:13
jordi_	spanish?	05:13
segfault	shadowraven, u have a sources issue i assume, that command will find the pkg on my sys, if u want further assistance post ur sources.list on pastebin	05:14
shadowraven	@segfault: ok, thank you for your help	05:14
segfault	np	05:14
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marcela	jordi_ yo hablo espaol	05:14
jordi_	hola	05:15
marcela	hola, de donde sos	05:15
jordi_	es mi segundo dia con kubuntu	05:15
Hawkwind	!es	05:15
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	05:15
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marcela	gracias	05:16
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jordi_	thx all	05:17
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grasmeer	in the lame settings: deleted --tg % {genre}, then it worked. Stupid bug...	05:17
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edgy	Hi, I started klettres but can't hear any sound though sound works in my system, what's wrong please?	05:21
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PeqNP	help! i accidentally removed myself from the admin group, and i cant sudo anymore	05:23
PeqNP	and since i cant login as root in kubuntu, how can i add myself back to the group?	05:23
edgy	PeqNP: you can user single user mode	05:24
PeqNP	whats that and how do i get into it?	05:24
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edgy	PeqNP: or you can use a livecd	05:24
segfault	PeqNP, reboot in single user mode and add urself back to admin grp	05:24
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PeqNP	ok.. how do i reboot in single user mode?	05:24
PeqNP	and how would i do it using a livecd as an alternative?	05:25
vonHalenbach-de	init 1	05:25
segfault	PeqNP, reboot and select kernel labeled recorvy mode	05:25
PeqNP	well when i reboot i dont have a list of options.. it just boots non-recovery	05:25
segfault	PeqNP, hit a key for menu options	05:25
PeqNP	oh ok.. any key?	05:26
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segfault	PeqNP, maybe i forget i think screen tels u	05:26
PeqNP	ok thanks.. will be back if i still cant get it	05:26
PeqNP	thanks	05:26
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grasmeer	bye!	05:28
khaled_hosny	does any one knows how to get the src .deb of gfxmenu that is used in dapper CD ?	05:28
khaled_hosny	s/knows/know	05:29
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trappist	khaled_hosny: there aren't really src .debs, but if you have an apt-src line in your sources.list you can apt-get source gfxmenu	05:34
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emonkey-p	khaled_hosny, maybe you find something through packages.ubuntu.com	05:35
OSUKid7	alright, so stupidly, I accidentally hit / instead of . and think I may have really messed up my system... I meant to do rm -R .* to clean a directory, but ended up doing rm -R /*, and I was running as root. I quit it as soon as I realized it, but I already see that some things were deleted. what's the best way to recover/restore program files?	05:35
v3ctor	OSUKid7: restore from backupup	05:35
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OSUKid7	v3ctor: yeah, figures, this is a new system and of course I didn't backup the / partition	05:36
khaled_hosny	trappist, emonkey : thnx	05:36
v3ctor	s/backupup/backup/	05:36
OSUKid7	so... I guess just reinstall and save what I can?	05:36
v3ctor	unless you know exactly what was deleted..you should resintall	05:36
ikam	hello I have router utstarcom UT-300R2U how setting the port on kopete for to see webcam?	05:37
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OSUKid7	yeah, and I don't... it ran for about 3-4 seconds before I killed it, but a lot is already missing	05:37
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OSUKid7	alright, downloading the kubuntu cd... thanks.	05:37
v3ctor	yeah..it most likely got some good stuff	05:37
OSUKid7	yeah :-\ definitely don't have ps and ls anymore	05:37
v3ctor	yep..it does the wildcard in alphabetical order	05:38
v3ctor	staring with /bin	05:38
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urosb	hi	05:52
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MetaMorfoziS	hi all, i have installed Ubuntu costumization Kit, but how can i start it?	05:53
urosb	help needed with sound drivers (alsa) Kmix etc.	05:53
MetaMorfoziS	anybody know? no "uck" cmd available	05:53
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scheuri	hi all	05:54
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frankkm	hi	05:54
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frankkm	I have a flv file, and I have downloaded Macromedia flash player to view it, but I cant play the file, I have searched for swf-player, but there is nothing and adebt says that it is installed	05:59
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frankkm	can anyone help me with that?	06:00
scheuri	frankkm: is it a swf-file?	06:02
frankkm	no its a flv file	06:02
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scheuri	uhmm...dont know about these...but have you tried to open it in firefox? (file - open file or location)	06:02
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frankkm	yes didn worked	06:03
scheuri	hmm...sorry then	06:03
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Admiral_Chicago	frankkm, hold on i got you	06:04
Admiral_Chicago	http://asuaf.org/~jj/blog/index.php/2006/01/08/convert-google-video-flvs-into-avi-mpg-etcin-linux/	06:04
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Admiral_Chicago	use ffmeg to convert it to mpg and view it, i use vlc to watch videos	06:05
frankkm	thanks Ill try that	06:05
scheuri	wow	06:05
scheuri	cool	06:05
Admiral_Chicago	sudo apt-get install ffmpeg	06:05
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frankkm	yes	06:05
Admiral_Chicago	you don't have to compile from source	06:05
scheuri	make this a sudo aptitude install ffmpeg	06:05
haffe	'ello.	06:05
scheuri	:)	06:05
Admiral_Chicago	frankkm, i told you i got you	06:05
Admiral_Chicago	i would suggest you use the default options too	06:06
frankkm	hehe thanks	06:06
haffe	Is there a way to assign hotkeys to kopete? I.e pressig ctrl+shift+u brings up unread messages.	06:06
abattoir	haffe: Settings->Configure Shortcuts	06:06
haffe	Thanks a lot.	06:07
abattoir	:)	06:07
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haffe	Hmmm, there doesn't seem to be the ability to assign a hotkey to unread messages.	06:08
azzco	Has anyone gotten compiz beryl, vanilla to work in kde?	06:08
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lupine_85	no reason why they shouldn't work	06:09
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lupine_85	I've using beryl in kubuntu edgy right now	06:09
trappist	what is beryl	06:09
lupine_85	the kicker/desktop switcher doesn't work properly, but there's a patched one that does	06:09
lupine_85	!beryl	06:09
ubotu	beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.	06:09
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abattoir	haffe: maybe because only some of the protocols have mail accounts tied up w/ them, you might want to ask at #kopete	06:09
Admiral_Chicago	azzco, ask in #ubuntu-xgl	06:10
azzco	lupine_85: I'm trying to install beryl on dapper here... there's alot of talk about edgy in the forums though, I keep getting to the same point with CSM not find in repos	06:10
azzco	oh okay I will :)	06:10
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lupine_85	azzco: use bsm, not csm	06:17
azzco	but compiz-plugins relies on csm	06:17
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marey	hi, does anyone know what programs exist to listen radio usign my tv card?	06:20
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marey	i dont like gradio (is there anything else?)	06:20
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matthias_	kaffeine	06:23
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aftertaf	what happened to the root folder?	06:26
aftertaf	i have like 3 folders in there now in konqueror :/	06:27
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aftertaf	kubutu edgy	06:27
sudharsh	aftertaf: having the same "bug" '/' in the location bar and there it is	06:28
aftertaf	bug or by design?	06:28
Admiral_Chicago	aftertaf, check #ubuntu+1	06:29
aftertaf	making linux simpler, means making it scary for others !!!	06:29
lupine_85	design, I think :'(	06:29
lupine_85	it's happening in gnome as well	06:29
Admiral_Chicago	name here	06:29
Admiral_Chicago	same	06:29
Admiral_Chicago	lets figure it out	06:29
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aftertaf	imho it sux	06:29
Admiral_Chicago	aftertaf, i don't like that at all	06:30
aftertaf	me 2	06:30
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TheGateKeeper	can't you see the root file system in edge anymore?	06:35
aftertaf	nope	06:35
Admiral_Chicago	TheGateKeeper, not that i know of	06:35
aftertaf	well, not really	06:35
Admiral_Chicago	i'm asking around	06:35
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aftertaf	build, home, media and win (made it myself, thatone)	06:35
aftertaf	though if i type em i go there	06:36
Admiral_Chicago	i'll check launchpad	06:37
aftertaf	k	06:37
aftertaf	not a permissions issue i dont think	06:37
warpzone	hey guys, I'm trying to purchase a sound card for meager audio recordings. any hints on what is/isn't supported well?	06:37
TheGateKeeper	if that's deliberate I am not upgrading & may well move to arch or something like that	06:37
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trappist	TheGateKeeper: can't see the root filesystem? what do you mean?	06:39
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TheGateKeeper	trappist: it's an issue in edge with konqueror apparently, I don't have edge installed so no first hand experience	06:41
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xst	How do I make k3b accept wma files for burning?	06:41
trappist	TheGateKeeper: if you're going to switch distros over a bug rumor...	06:41
arun_	hello	06:41
aftertaf	not kde only	06:42
aftertaf	nautilus does same apparently	06:42
aftertaf	i think its a feature but i cant find out how to undo it	06:42
TheGateKeeper	aftertaf: not kde because that doesn't happen in arch or other linux distros	06:42
arun_	i have upgraded from dapper to edgy i got some issues	06:42
arun_	can somebody help me	06:42
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aftertaf	arun_maybe, or #ubuntu+1	06:43
warpzone	arun_: you're looking for #ubuntu+1	06:43
TheGateKeeper	trappist: will wait & see what happens	06:43
arun_	kubuntu	06:43
aftertaf	sme thing :)	06:43
aftertaf	nearly	06:43
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Admiral_Chicago	Riddell, sorry to bug you but is it a new feature that when you type / to get to root in konqui, there are only a few foders listed?	06:45
Admiral_Chicago	i'll make a bug report	06:45
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Admiral_Chicago	someone can look at it	06:45
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aftertaf	good idea to ask Riddell :)	06:45
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Admiral_Chicago	i feel bad because he's always busy...	06:46
aftertaf	lol	06:46
soulrider	hi everyone	06:46
rensbuja	hi	06:46
rensbuja	(as well)	06:46
rensbuja	:)	06:46
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rensbuja	does anyone know what software I can use to connect my sony ericsson w810i phone to kubuntu	06:47
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rensbuja	I used moto4lin with motorola	06:47
rensbuja	b4	06:47
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rensbuja	is there anything for ericsson?	06:47
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aftertaf	i found it :)	06:49
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aftertaf	there is a file called .hidden at /	06:49
aftertaf	they are set to hidden.	06:49
trappist	oh yeah, I saw that somewhere	06:49
aftertaf	view hidden files when in root and they appear, as does .hidden, and its contents are the missing folders :)	06:50
aftertaf	phew!!!!!!!!!!!!!	06:50
trappist	forgot all about it	06:50
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aftertaf	removed all contents, back to business :)	06:51
Admiral_Chicago	TheGateKeeper, feature	06:51
Admiral_Chicago	they are all in /.hidden	06:51
aftertaf	yayyyyyyyyyyyyy	06:51
aftertaf	off for a shower now :)	06:51
TheGateKeeper	Admiral_Chicago: ok thanx	06:51
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TheGateKeeper	NOT good news	06:52
Admiral_Chicago	TheGateKeeper, nope i don't like that	06:52
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TheGateKeeper	Admiral_Chicago: well I can recommend arch it's VERY fast, just don't know how to install KDE without all the clutter	06:54
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Admiral_Chicago	TheGateKeeper, nah i like KDe	06:58
Admiral_Chicago	beside i can use the command line :)	06:58
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Admiral_Chicago	class now kids, see ya	06:59
TheGateKeeper	Admiral_Chicago: I have KDE installed on an arch linux, just got more clutter than I would like	07:00
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soulrider	!classroom	07:04
ubotu	The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom	07:04
ubuntu_	hallo	07:04
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boubou974	bonjour	07:10
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Arcasa	SUP MUTHA FUKKAZ!	07:12
Arcasa	I was kidding.	07:12
Arcasa	How is everyone	07:12
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zorglu_	please avoid this kind of joke in the future	07:12
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Arcasa	You coulda just said: "I'm great Arcasa, Thank you very much for asking... And how was your day?"	07:13
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zorglu_	Arcasa: yep but the meaning would have been different :)	07:13
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Arcasa	You love me really.	07:14
zorglu_	Arcasa: i did meant to say "please avoid this kind of joke in the future"	07:14
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Arcasa	Anywhoo. Enough with these social pleasentries.	07:14
Arcasa	I need helps. Where do I get Kopete header files from?	07:14
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zorglu_	Arcasa: this is a support channel, not really a chat channel :)	07:14
Dr_willis	hmm	07:14
v3ctor	kopete-dev	07:15
Dr_willis	apt-cache search kopete	07:15
Dr_willis	perhaps	07:15
Arcasa	It IS a support channel... But what if I need SOCIAL support?	07:15
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Dr_willis	Thats what church if for.	07:15
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v3ctor	kubuntu-offtopic	07:15
v3ctor	#kubuntu-offtopic	07:15
Arcasa	I love you all.	07:16
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DarkWizzard	guys	07:17
DarkWizzard	a little help please	07:18
DarkWizzard	hello and peace to all	07:18
DarkWizzard	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25741/	07:18
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fernando_	AI DONTI ANDERSTEND INGLESHI	07:18
zorglu_	DarkWizzard: disable firestarter and retry	07:19
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DarkWizzard	did that too	07:19
Arcasa	I can't get the damn header files.	07:19
zorglu_	fernando_: no need for caps	07:19
Arcasa	Screw it.	07:19
DarkWizzard	but nothing	07:19
zorglu_	Arcasa: PLEASE WATCH YOUR LANGUAGES!!	07:19
Arcasa	I ONLY HAVE ONE!	07:19
zorglu_	Arcasa: you have been warned many times	07:19
DarkWizzard	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25742/	07:20
Arcasa	Why do we even have anti-lauguage rules?	07:20
zorglu_	!language	07:20
ubotu	Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	07:20
Arcasa	I mean we're all men, all over 16.	07:20
Arcasa	familly friendly!	07:20
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Arcasa	Since when do families use Kubuntu!	07:20
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Arcasa	In fact, since when do families use anything other than Windows!	07:20
zorglu_	Arcasa: please behave	07:20
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jhutchins_wk	What do I need to install if I want to play windows media, flash, and real audio?	07:20
Arcasa	Mplayer	07:20
Arcasa	Or Mplayer 32 if you're using a 64 bit Arch,.	07:21
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Arcasa	You could also try Kaffiene.	07:21
Dr_willis	mpayer, xine, vlc, or that realplayer for linux	07:21
Dr_willis	oops mplayer :)	07:21
Arcasa	Kaffeine.	07:21
Arcasa	Why can't we get rid of these silly laws?	07:22
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jhutchins_wk	Ok, where do I get mplayer? I don't see it in the standard repositories.	07:22
zorglu_	DarkWizzard: ok it doesnt make sense, either the connect is accepted or rejected but should not be ignored	07:22
jhutchins_wk	Don't I need a win32codec package too?	07:22
Dr_willis	Money.... its alll about the Money	07:22
Arcasa	I mean... RIGHT ANYONE WHO ISN'T MALE OVER 16 SAY "AYE"!	07:22
zorglu_	Arcasa: please behave	07:22
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DarkWizzard	zorglu_: I know	07:22
DarkWizzard	thats why I came here	07:22
DarkWizzard	this is the situation	07:22
Arcasa	Please stop telling me to behave.	07:23
zorglu_	DarkWizzard: hmm try 127.0.0.1 insteead of localhost	07:23
Arcasa	Allah will not like it.	07:23
Arcasa	I am a devout Muslim.	07:23
DarkWizzard	same problem	07:23
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zorglu_	DarkWizzard: i dont believe you :)	07:23
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DarkWizzard	zorglu_:	07:23
Arcasa	Hey... I'm trying to install Desklist to my Kopete... ./configure says I need kopete header files... And I don't have a clue.	07:23
DarkWizzard	telnet me	07:23
DarkWizzard	Arcasa: sudo apt-get build-dep kopete	07:24
Arcasa	I love you.	07:24
zorglu_	telnet 86.126.236.125 80 <- establish a connection	07:24
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Arcasa	configure: error: Could not find Kopete header files!	07:25
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zorglu_	Arcasa: ok you have been warned way too many time already	07:25
Arcasa	Still no,.	07:25
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Arcasa	Warned for what? I haven't done owt!	07:25
DarkWizzard	what still no ?	07:25
Arcasa	Yeah it's saying configure: error: Could not find Kopete header files!	07:25
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zorglu_	Arcasa: go in #kopete they will have expert for you	07:26
Arcasa	Tried. They're all silent.	07:26
Arcasa	Dead infact.	07:26
Arcasa	I shot them.	07:26
DarkWizzard	lol man	07:26
zorglu_	ok action :)	07:26
DarkWizzard	doesn't it give a url ?	07:26
Arcasa	It?	07:26
v3ctor	sudo aptitude install kopete-dev	07:26
Arcasa	Installed kopete-dev... Trying again.	07:27
Arcasa	Nope...	07:27
zorglu_	DarkWizzard: ok lets focus on your problem	07:27
nalioth	!tell Arcasa about guidelines	07:28
Dr_willis	i cant even find a kopete-dev	07:28
v3ctor	i can	07:28
Dr_willis	!info kopete-dev	07:28
Arcasa	I can.	07:28
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ubotu	kopete-dev: development files for the KDE instant messenger, Kopete. In component kopete, is optional. Version 4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper-imbrandon), package size 81 kB, installed size 454 kB	07:28
Dr_willis	In component kopete, is optional ?????	07:29
Dr_willis	hmm	07:29
Dr_willis	!info kde-dev	07:29
ubotu	Package kde-dev does not exist in any distro I know	07:29
Arcasa	!info kopete_export	07:29
ubotu	Package kopeteexport does not exist in any distro I know	07:29
v3ctor	!info kdebase-dev	07:29
ubotu	kdebase-dev: development files for the KDE base module. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 76 kB, installed size 476 kB	07:29
Arcasa	That's somehing Configure can't find.	07:29
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Dr_willis	kdenetwork-dev - development files for the KDE network module	07:29
nalioth	!info kde-devel	07:30
ubotu	kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB	07:30
Dr_willis	"In component kopete" -- is... weird	07:30
Arcasa	It's messed up.	07:30
Dr_willis	it has its own repo?	07:30
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jhutchins_wk	!info mplayer	07:32
ubotu	mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB	07:32
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Arcasa	!figlet	07:33
ubotu	figlet: Frank, Ian & Glenn's Letters. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.2.1-4 (dapper), package size 145 kB, installed size 880 kB	07:33
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jhutchins_wk	!info multiverse	07:34
ubotu	Package multiverse does not exist in any distro I know	07:34
Arcasa	!info Legends	07:34
zorglu_	!repo	07:34
ubotu	Package legends does not exist in any distro I know	07:34
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	07:34
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Arcasa	!info FontForge	07:34
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ubotu	fontforge: Font Editor for PS, TrueType and OpenType fonts. In component main, is optional. Version 0.0.20051205-0.1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 3044 kB, installed size 8760 kB	07:34
v3ctor	!bot-abuse	07:34
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about bot-abuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:34
liviux	hi all. I can't find the "libxine-extracodecs" in the repositories from adept and apt-get too. I think that's why there are no "multiverse" repositories in the manager.Could anyone help me about this problem?	07:34
zorglu_	liviux: you are very likely to be correct :)	07:35
zorglu_	!universe	07:35
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	07:35
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zorglu_	liviux: the page explains in great details how to add unniverse/multiverse	07:36
Arcasa	Later UGLY BITCHES!	07:36
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Dr_willis	:)	07:37
liviux	I've seed but maybe the package needed are changed, isn't it?	07:37
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Hawkwind	Ackkk	07:38
zorglu_	liviux: what do you mean ?	07:38
Dr_willis	+d ? hmm thats a new one	07:38
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liviux	Perhaps libxine-extracodecs doesn't exist right now	07:39
zorglu_	liviux: ok you need 2 things, 1. to put unniverse/multiverse as explained in the web page, 2. to add all the codec to get the restricted format to work on your box	07:39
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zorglu_	!info libxine-extracodecs	07:39
ubotu	libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB	07:39
zorglu_	liviux: it is still there :)	07:39
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liviux	Uhm...not for me, unfortunetely...	07:40
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liviux	however thank you	07:40
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zorglu_	liviux: install the multiverse, and it will be there	07:40
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zorglu_	Hawkwind: not easy, hey:)	07:41
sF\|Xemanth	why god pastebin is is so slow :~	07:42
Hawkwind	sF\|Xemanth: Use http://pastebin.ulteo.us	07:42
liviux	excuse me, but I can't see the "multiverse" voice. There are other method to enable this repositories out from adept?? Maybe using konsole and the URL	07:42
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zorglu_	!sourceomatic	07:42
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	07:42
zorglu_	liviux: try this one	07:43
liviux	wow!	07:43
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kulbir	where i can find mplayer codec?	07:44
zorglu_	!codec	07:44
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:44
zorglu_	!codecs	07:44
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	07:44
sF\|Xemanth	ah now i managed to get paste online	07:44
sF\|Xemanth	something is f*cked in my edgy: http://pastebin.com/800838	07:44
zorglu_	kulbir: someeehere is the page	07:45
dazzy	wow kubuntu rocks me first try...why doesn't mythtv work anyone?	07:45
kulbir	sorry "w32codec"	07:45
Hawkwind	sF\|Xemanth: If you're running Edgy, might talk to the guys in #Ubuntu+1 since that's the Edgy channel	07:45
zorglu_	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5 <- for you kulbir	07:45
kulbir	zorglu_: thanks	07:46
Dr_willis	MythTV - can be a little complex	07:46
Dr_willis	!mythtv	07:46
ubotu	mythtv is for watching TV in Linux. Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/	07:46
sF\|Xemanth	Hawkwind: aha	07:47
dazzy	yeah i want my terratec tv card to work..in kubuntu...	07:47
dazzy	but it's not a must...	07:47
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dazzy	hopefully my other partition still works..	07:47
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liviux	now it work! really a good link, thanks again	07:56
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crispX	salut j'viens d'installer la derniere version de openoffice mais je n'sais pas quelle est la commande pour lancer les application	08:00
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chrman	#kubuntu-de	08:00
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geoff270	anyone help w port forwarding	08:01
zorglu_	!fr	08:01
ubotu	Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	08:01
Kubu	!ch	08:02
Kubu	!jp	08:02
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:02
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:02
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zorglu_	crispX: it should be in the menu, delog yourself	08:02
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inam	hi all ! im getting a very funny DNS related problem :D	08:08
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usuario	Can anybody tell me kubuntu's based distribution?	08:09
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inam	when i open a URL that does not exist (such as www.kotakbank.com) instead of giving a Server not found or DNS error, it opens up my office's website!	08:10
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inam	my laptop is a dual boot... at office i use winxp and at home i use kubuntu	08:10
crispX	zorglu_: restart my system ?	08:10
inam	funny thing is this problem does not happen in winxp... it happens only in kubuntu	08:10
inam	anyone any clues?	08:11
zorglu_	crispX: yep, or simple unlog/relog	08:11
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crispX	ok thinks zorglu_	08:11
zorglu_	inam: ping the 2 host, blabalbank and your office website one and see if it is the same ip address	08:12
zorglu_	inam: http://www.kotakbank.com/ is an unknown host from here. which may be part of the problem	08:12
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inam	zorglu_, both host point to same ip... more funny stuff... when i ping kotakbank.com, the first line of pin utility says "PING www.kotakbank.com.mobiapps.com"	08:15
inam	zorglu_, where did the suffix "mobiapps.com" come from? (btw, that is my office website URL www.mobiapps.com)	08:15
zorglu_	inam: and mobiapps.com is your office ?	08:15
zorglu_	ok so it is a matter of resolv.conf	08:16
inam	where can i find resolv.conf file?	08:16
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zorglu_	cat /etc/resolv.conf and put it in a pastebin	08:16
inam	its got only 3 lines:	08:17
zorglu_	ok shoot here	08:17
inam	earch mobiapps.com	08:17
inam	nameserver 203.145.184.13	08:17
inam	nameserver 202.56.250.5	08:17
crispX	zorglu_: you speak french ?	08:17
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zorglu_	crispX: i do, but it is an english speaking channel	08:17
inam	zorglu_ the first line is search mobiapps.com... that could be the problem ?	08:18
zorglu_	inam: remove the first line	08:18
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zorglu_	inam: yep it could be :)	08:18
inam	i got it... but how did the first line come here ?!!	08:18
zorglu_	inam: unsure about that, maybe some dhcp stuff which remain after you used it at your office	08:19
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inam	possible... thanks anyways... will try connecting to office from my kubuntu tomm... see if this line reappears !	08:19
inam	thanks a ton !	08:19
zorglu_	inam: you can setup your network via 'kmenu -> system setting -> network'	08:19
zorglu_	inam: my pleasure	08:19
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crispX	I'v just dpkg openoffice.org2.0 in /opt/ folder and now I'v new folders inside Gnome kde3 and openoffice.org2.0 but i can't launch oowriter or oocalc or ooimpress	08:20
jhutchins_wk	How do I get the left-hand "windows" key to activate the application menu?	08:21
zorglu_	crispX: you got 2 distincts install of openoffice in your box ?	08:21
crispX	wich box ?	08:21
zorglu_	jhutchins_wk: kmenu -> system setting -> regional setting	08:22
zorglu_	crispX: on your computer i meant :) "ta machine quoi" :)	08:22
crispX	no i've remove by adept the default one	08:22
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zorglu_	crispX: try to launch them directly via the path on command line	08:23
zorglu_	crispX: i dont use openoffice so im only guessing	08:23
crispX	ok but where is install the "linux exe"	08:24
zorglu_	what do you mean ?	08:25
crispX	U don't know cause U don't use it	08:25
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crispX	what should I launch (search to launch I mean)	08:25
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zorglu_	no idea, sorry	08:25
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zorglu_	moreover i see myself fleeing away from my work again....	08:26
crispX	it is in /opt/openoffice.org2.0/program i supose but I don't know what	08:26
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zorglu_	http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication <- for you crispX, a bunch of irc channel dedicated to openoffice	08:27
zorglu_	some even in french :)	08:27
crispX	thx zorglu_	08:27
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crispX	i'v found it its swriter for writer	08:28
jhutchins_wk	Hm. It seems to only recognize the windows keys as modifier keys.	08:29
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intelikey	!nv	08:30
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:30
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kulbir	"sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade " is it right?	08:33
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Hattori	i'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192141 --> it hangs there.. what that mean???	08:34
Hawkwind	kulbir: Yes	08:34
Hawkwind	kulbir: There is also sudo apt-get dist-upgrade which will upgrade your kernel if there is a newer version in the repos	08:35
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ICXCNIKA	I've never really used Linux before.	08:35
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rom	hello	08:36
kulbir	Hawkwind: im already using kubuntu edgy	08:36
intelikey	well i assume from reading the link on the wiki that i should NOT install the propriatry nvidia driver. according to the link i don't meet the "prerequsits"	08:37
Hawkwind	kulbir: Ah ok. Might also join #Ubuntu+1 if you aren't there already as that is the Edgy channel which might give you a bit of help from time to time as well	08:38
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kulbir	Hawkwind: thanks :)	08:39
edu	hi!	08:39
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buzzy-	hello: how can i listen to wav files?	08:39
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edu	Does anyone know how can I delete a conflictive module source? I installed ati fglrx, for k7 processors and then I installed the newer driver for i386 and I can't build the module.	08:40
intelikey	Prerequisites == 1 The command lspci \| grep -i nvidia prints out a line of text 2 The command lspci \| grep -i nvidia prints out a line of text	08:40
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Hattori	i'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192148 --> it hangs there.. what that mean???	08:40
intelikey	oops 2 You need hardware-accelerated 3D support	08:40
intelikey	1 passes 2 doesn't so i should not install it correct ?	08:41
bLaZeD	does anyone know of a good app for monitoring a network.....like will let u know if a new computer tries to connect to my wireless router.....and things of this nature....	08:41
bLaZeD	like report their mac addy machine name....and any other kinda handy info	08:41
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intelikey	buzzy- just about any media player will do wav	08:42
buzzy-	intelikey, ??	08:42
buzzy-	what u mean?	08:42
weedar	I'm having trouble with the encoding of files, special-characters are not shown	08:42
intelikey	buzzy- cli install sox and type play file.way	08:42
bLaZeD	buzzy-, i prefer xmms for all my music and mplayer for video	08:42
weedar	can I convert a file to/from utf-8 to/from iso-8859-1?	08:42
bLaZeD	xmms = linux winamp	08:43
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buzzy-	bLaZeD, i have xmms but i listen badly my .wav file !! it doeasn't play good!!	08:43
intelikey	<buzzy-> hello: how can i listen to wav files? <---<intelikey> buzzy- just about any media player will do wav that's what i mean.	08:43
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buzzy-	!xmms	08:43
ubotu	Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs	08:43
bLaZeD	buzzy-, can u xplain what plays bad means?	08:43
edu	!fglrx	08:44
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:44
buzzy-	bLaZeD, fragmented i hear it!	08:44
slow-motion	hallo	08:44
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soulrider	i gtoa problem with my sound	08:44
soulrider	its really noisy	08:44
soulrider	and it works perfectly well on redmond	08:44
buzzy-	!codecs	08:44
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	08:44
bLaZeD	!restricted	08:45
GNUro	!flash	08:45
buzzy-	bLaZeD, maybe that's a codec problem?	08:45
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bLaZeD	buzzy-, yea could be	08:45
bLaZeD	!restricted	08:45
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	08:45
bLaZeD	buzzy-, ^^	08:45
Acidic32	!respositories	08:45
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about respositories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:45
intelikey	wav doesn't require extra codecs	08:45
Acidic32	!repositories	08:45
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	08:45
bLaZeD	buzzy-, go install all the stuff it tell u to for media	08:45
bLaZeD	intelikey, i figured it wouldnt hurt for him to try	08:46
buzzy-	bLaZeD, let me understand: when u first installed kubuntu. what did u do to listen to wav? u installed xmms, right? and what other did u install?	08:46
bLaZeD	buzzy-, is it som kinda media protected crap?	08:46
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bLaZeD	buzzy-, i installed everything it told me to for kubuntu on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats	08:47
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buzzy-	they are wav's recoreded by my mp3 palyer	08:47
dom	hi	08:47
buzzy-	bLaZeD,	08:47
bLaZeD	buzzy-, i then installed xmms and everything else i needed	08:47
dom	is there such thing as an ssh client that is tied in to kwallet?	08:47
buzzy-	that is?	08:47
bLaZeD	buzzy-, have u added repos and everything?	08:47
buzzy-	bLaZeD, what other? (referring only to medias)	08:47
dom	or at least an ssh-askpass that is tied into kwallet?	08:47
buzzy-	bLaZeD, i have multiverse and universe enabled	08:48
buzzy-	;)	08:48
bLaZeD	buzzy-, good =DF	08:48
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bLaZeD	*=D	08:48
bLaZeD	buzzy-, does mp3's and everything else play good?	08:48
buzzy-	haven't any mp3 on pc	08:49
buzzy-	bLaZeD,	08:49
intelikey	buzzy- i sujest you install "sox" drop to a console and type play /path/to/file.way and see if it plays correctly.	08:49
bLaZeD	buzzy-, it colol u dont have 1 mp?	08:49
buzzy-	people how can i know my kubuntu vewrsion?	08:49
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trappist	buzzy-: lsb-release -a	08:49
intelikey	inturpret /path/to/file.way	08:49
buzzy-	trappist, what's that commadn?	08:49
intelikey	err wav even	08:50
trappist	buzzy-: the command to know your kubuntu version	08:50
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soyer	hello - any one from PL ??	08:50
bLaZeD	trappist, buzzy- its lsb_release	08:51
bLaZeD	its a underscore	08:51
bLaZeD	:P	08:51
emonkey-p	!pl	08:51
Hawkwind	trappist: lsb_release -a actually :P	08:51
ubotu	Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl	08:51
trappist	oh oops :)	08:51
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soyer	thx!	08:51
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edu	radeon free driver dosen't load with DRI but I have a supprted card, what can i do?	08:58
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intelikey	so question; would there be any non-3D binifit from installing nvidia drivers ?	08:59
intelikey	edu you read !ati links ?	08:59
intelikey	!ati	08:59
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:59
lupine_85	intelikey: some benefit. Not huge	09:00
intelikey	lupine_85 in what way ?	09:00
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intelikey	any chance that it would retard a low end box ?	09:00
lupine_85	in that it'll "probably" run 2D stuff slightly smoother. Not a biggie	09:00
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hsihh	!schedule	09:04
ubotu	Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule	09:04
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wilfred	can anyone tell me how to change the default video and music player in kubuntu?	09:05
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Dr_willis	Isent there a multimedia control panel thang?	09:06
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Dr_willis	I normally just right click, open with...	09:06
Dr_willis	:)	09:06
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jhutchins_wk	Ok, should I or shouldn't I include the scripts in converting the RealPlayer rpm to a .deb?	09:07
hsihh	do you know gut trackers with ogg music?	09:07
wilfred	Dr_willis: I like double clicks. Do you know where I can find this multimedia control panel thing?	09:07
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cpk2	i think in configure konquerer	09:08
Dr_willis	In the control panel :)	09:09
intelikey	so i would also have to down grade my kernel to use the nvidia drivers ?	09:09
Dr_willis	oh wait its called the 'control center' :)	09:09
wilfred	cpk2: you rock :-)	09:09
intelikey	kcontrol ?	09:10
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intelikey	The following NEW packages will be installed:	09:11
intelikey	linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386	09:11
intelikey	linux-restricted-modules-common nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-kernel-common	09:11
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intelikey	2.6.15-26-386	09:11
intelikey	&^== /exec -o uname -r	09:11
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hyper	Hello abattoir	09:11
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cpk2	wilfred: actually its in mouse settings =P	09:12
wilfred	where is the remember assocation checkbox?	09:12
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intelikey	Dr_willis if open with is in the list....	09:12
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Dr_willis	RIchg click.. opwn with.. and its at the bottom when ya select an app.	09:13
Dr_willis	That configure konquerer does let ya remove/reorder the defaults.. guess the 'rember' check box adds a new entry to it	09:13
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Dr_willis	I got like 8 open with things for jpgs - dependng on the jpg. which i want to use.	09:14
hyper	How can I make this: When I assign a programm to anoterh desktop panel it will disappear from the taskbar when I'm not in that panel...	09:14
Dr_willis	Be it ever so Humble theres no place like ~	09:14
intelikey	:)	09:14
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Dr_willis	hyper, thats a setting in the taskbar menus	09:14
Dr_willis	right click on the taskbar 'handel'	09:15
Dr_willis	'configure taskbar'	09:15
Dr_willis	The joys of Exploring the OS!	09:15
Dr_willis	:)	09:15
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Dr_willis	or right click on the panel anywehre --> confogure panel -> taskbar button	09:16
hyper	ah... much better :)	09:16
cpk2	configuring kde the first 1 or 2 times is fun	09:16
intelikey	is there ever going to be an updated nvidia driver for the LTS release ? or will it always require down-grading the kernel to use it ?	09:16
cpk2	but after that not so much because then you get worried you forgot to configure something you had been using for the past year =P	09:16
edu	hey intelikey, i've read ati links	09:17
hyper	dr_willis most of my linux experience is based on gnome ^^	09:23
edu	i am restarting x server...	09:23
intelikey	edu did it not help you ?	09:23
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Shifty	Hey everyone.	09:23
buzzy-	!w32codecs	09:23
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	09:23
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intelikey	cpk2 yeah i would only want to setup kde about one time per distro...	09:23
Shifty	So I replaced Windows on my work laptop w/ Kubuntu.	09:23
Shifty	looking awesome so far	09:23
hyper	one more question: can I autostart a program somehow in a specific Desktop?	09:23
hyper	I mean into a specific Desktop?	09:23
cpk2	took me about 3 days just to get all my desktops looking nice and all the right apps in them =P	09:23
cpk2	hyper: dont close it before you log out	09:23
cpk2	kde remembers where most apps are	09:23
buzzy-	!libstdc++5	09:23
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about libstdc++5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:23
buzzy-	!libstdc++	09:23
cpk2	i have noticed that gaim misbehaves ALOT	09:23
buzzy-	!libstdc	09:23
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about libstdc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:23
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about libstdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:23
silox	where is the inittab file in Ubuntu 6.10?	09:23
cpk2	!info libstdc++5	09:23
Shifty	I've been running Kopete, not my favorite, but it doens't misbehave too much	09:23
ubotu	Package libstdc5 does not exist in any distro I know	09:23
cpk2	kopete kept crashing for me =\	09:23
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hyper	cpk2: Thx... one last question: How do I turn that kopete password thingy off?	09:23
cpk2	so I am back to gaim and konversation	09:23
cpk2	the wallet?	09:23
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hyper	cpk: yes, the wallet	09:23
albacker	hello ! how do i show my home, documents icons on desktop ?	09:23
Shifty	You have to disable the wallet	09:23
cpk2	hyper: you should see it in the bottom right after the prompt pops up, right click and configure	09:23
hyper	cpk: thx :)	09:23
albacker	i can't get my home icon on desktop. i can create a link to it, but than i can't change the icon. Can someone help me ?	09:24
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hyper	btw, fi there are so many pros here: You know you can add a folder with wall papers and have kde cycle through it... however the problem is only the pics in that folder get added... but not in recurisve folders. Anyone knows how to do that?	09:26
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trappist	hyper: probably have to modify the source	09:28
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buzzy-	!libstdc++	09:28
buzzy-	!w32codecs	09:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about libstdc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:28
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	09:28
intelikey	albacker right click the icon > propreties > [click the picture of the icon] and choose the one you want;	09:29
albacker	intelikey, UH :\ thanks.. sorry, i've never used KDE before, just gnome ;)	09:29
hyper	trappist: Hmmm.... I only know a bit of PHP/MySQL	09:29
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ninHer	hi all	09:30
intelikey	albacker rule number one in kde. use the right mouse button to change thangs. :)	09:30
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trappist	hyper: it would be C++	09:31
hyper	wb: dr_willis	09:31
albacker	intelikey, anyway to remove the system beep ? the thing that's done when you press backspace in a konsole. I mean that's in gnome too, but it's louder on KDE !	09:31
hyper	trappist: can one eat c++? ;)	09:31
intelikey	albacker yes. kcontrol has all the settings you could ever use.	09:31
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hyper	oh well, a recursive adding would be really nice there	09:32
main2	in what config file are the KDE keyboard-shortcuts located (which one in ~/.kde/share/config?	09:32
intelikey	menu > system settings > whateveryouwant iirc	09:32
hyper	since I'm not going to put like 10k wallpapers in one folder	09:32
inam	albacket: in konsole, try settings -> bell	09:32
trappist	hyper: I'll look into it	09:32
inam	albacker: in konsole, try settings -> bell	09:33
hyper	trappist: You don't have to... I was just surprised to see that KDE offers a wallpaper slide show but no recursive adding	09:33
intelikey	inam if it's only the terminal bell he/she wants to set.	09:33
trappist	hyper: well actually, I wanna look into it because I want to do the same thing with screensavers that cycle through images	09:33
buzzy-	people i have installed w32codecs, but if i listen to a .wav file it is choppy!!!...how can i solve?	09:33
intelikey	the system bell/error beep is set in kcontrol iirc	09:34
hyper	trappist: Need a tester on edgy? ^^	09:34
albacker	inam, i just removed all sounds..	09:34
buzzy-	trappist,	09:34
trappist	hyper: heh, not yet :) but I'm using edgy too	09:34
hyper	this is so cool about linux... that there are people that just help you (or try to)	09:34
hyper	well, I have a noob edgy here :) not a fine tuned one like yours	09:35
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gabriel	hello	09:36
buzzy-	people i have installed w32codecs, but if i listen to a .wav file it is choppy!!!...how can i solve?	09:36
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intelikey	hyper have you tested the wave file in the console to be sure that the problem is not the files quality rather than the players functionality ?	09:36
intelikey	err @ buzzy-	09:36
hyper	intelikey: I'm not having troubles with wave files ^^	09:37
intelikey	sorry hyper	09:37
hyper	intelikey: it's ok :)	09:37
buzzy-	intelikey, ?? what u said?	09:37
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urosb	help needed with sound drivers (alsa) Kmix etc.	09:37
buzzy-	intelikey, i hear fragmented audipo	09:37
buzzy-	audio	09:37
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inam	albacker, have you tried system settings -> sounds & multimedia -> system bell ?	09:37
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albacker	inam, problems are solved :) thanks..	09:38
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buzzy-	intelikey, can u help me pls?	09:38
Acidic32	all my reposirotries are messed up	09:38
Acidic32	is there a generator somewhere, ive seen it mentions	09:38
Acidic32	d*	09:38
Acidic32	!repository generator	09:38
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about repository generator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:39
inam	albacker, cool :)	09:39
Dr_willis	!easysource	09:39
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	09:39
intelikey	buzzy- 1. sudo apt-get install sox 2. play your_file.wav then tell me if it sounds choppy ?	09:39
Acidic32	thx	09:39
TheGateKeeper	Acidic32: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories	09:39
Acidic32	whats a good ftpd?	09:39
intelikey	both 1. and 2. are command line strings.	09:39
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Dr_willis	3. there is no #3	09:40
Dr_willis	!ftp	09:40
ubotu	FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd	09:40
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Dr_willis	the best ftp - is no ftp. :)	09:40
buzzy-	intelikey, ok	09:41
Dr_willis	Incompetent People Really Have No Clue, Studies Find http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/01/18/MN73840.DTL	09:41
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hyper	btw, a friend of mine tried to install Dapper and Edgy but the LiveCD and alternate just stopp after "extracting vmlinux"... however he was able to install Breezy...	09:43
buzzy-	intelikey, pls: what is cli?	09:43
buzzy-	command line?	09:43
intelikey	!cli	09:43
hyper	I then gave him my Dapper Repos and told him to dist-upgrade but again it stopped after extracting vmlinux	09:43
ubotu	The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands	09:43
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intelikey	buzzy- yes cli==command line interface	09:44
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hyper	anyone has an idea why? Or how about an upgrade from Breezy to Edgy?	09:44
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Hattori	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032	09:45
Hattori	anybody have a clue?	09:45
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gabriel	can anybody help me plase? i am a newbie and i have a problem when i want to see the network servers... it says: "network:///" is not a valid location.	09:45
buzzy-	intelikey, sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy	09:45
buzzy-	so intelikey what could be the problem?	09:46
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intelikey	hyper edit your /etc/apt/sources.list change ALL breezy to edgy save and run these two commands. sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but the packagers will probably say you should do it icrimentally breezy > dapper > edgy	09:46
intelikey	buzzy- perpend sudo and try again.	09:47
intelikey	sudo play your_file.wav	09:47
hyper	intelikey: well, I just wonder whether that will works... since install refused to continue on dapper and edgy...	09:48
BonBonTheJon	gabriel: can you see a server by ip address	09:48
buzzy-	intelikey, ok i listen it well!!	09:48
Hattori	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- anybody has any idea how to fix that??	09:48
buzzy-	intelikey, now i waqnt to listen by xmms	09:48
buzzy-	how can i solve?	09:49
intelikey	buzzy- sound is good in cli ?	09:49
buzzy-	yep	09:49
buzzy-	:)	09:49
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intelikey	ok change xmms settings to use "alsa" output	09:49
buzzy-	i try	09:49
Hattori	hmm, have a read at least please ;}	09:49
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abattoir	hi hyper, sorry, was afk	09:50
buzzy-	intelikey, how can i change to alsa?	09:50
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intelikey	buzzy- i don't have xmms but should be in the xmms menu > settings >> preferances >>> output or something like that	09:52
buzzy-	hmm	09:52
hyper	abattoir: no problem :) I hope you're well today	09:52
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hyper	wohoo, got my Thunderbird icon back :)	09:52
intelikey	maybe an xmms user can answer you buzzy-	09:52
buzzy-	i have set it to libALSA.so intelikey is it good? but i still don t hear	09:52
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intelikey	not libalsa.so but "alsa"	09:53
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intelikey	maybe settings > audio > output	09:54
intelikey	output device even	09:54
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intelikey	any xmms users in the channel ?	09:54
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buzzy-	intelikey, cant solve!1	09:55
buzzy-	:(	09:56
Hattori	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- who can read here please and tell me how to fix?	09:56
buzzy-	what is PMC	09:56
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hsihh	hi. i`ve got a question: if i install beta kubuntu now, will i be able to update it to final release easy?	09:56
zorglu_	hsihh: yes	09:56
zorglu_	buzzy-: the more precise and accurate is your question, the more likely you will get an satisfying answer for it	09:57
intelikey	buzzy- pcm ?	09:57
buzzy-	ok	09:57
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buzzy-	i am in xmms config panel: click on Output plugin and then i can choose among:0)OSS 1) Output ALSA; 2) Output eSound 3) Plugin disk writer: which one should i choose?	09:59
buzzy-	zorglu_, intelikey	09:59
buzzy-	?	09:59
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intelikey	pcm is an audio output device control i'm not usre what pcm means. use Output ALSA; 2)	10:00
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buzzy-	ALSA correspods to libALSA.so	10:00
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intelikey	alsa == advanced linux sound arc.	10:01
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zorglu_	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCM => pcm is 'puse modulation code'	10:01
buzzy-	ok ok	10:01
Hattori	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- who can read here please and tell me how to fix?	10:01
zorglu_	seems like coming from the 70's :)	10:01
buzzy-	i set it but stiill don t hear	10:01
buzzy-	!!	10:01
zorglu_	Hattori: i read and have no clue either :(	10:01
Hattori	:(	10:01
intelikey	buzzy- hehhe i don't know what to tell you then. trash that xmms and use vlc maybe.	10:02
buzzy-	:'(	10:02
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buzzy-	in the prevoius (from same cd, so identical) installation of kubuntu i did hear wav's!!!	10:03
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buzzy-	whyyyyyyyyyy??	10:03
hsihh	where can i find list of all aps in ubuntu?	10:03
zorglu_	oh why :)	10:03
zorglu_	hsihh: adept can provide this	10:03
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hsihh	but without ubuntu installed	10:03
zorglu_	buzzy-: there are many way to play wav	10:03
hsihh	i`m on windows right now here	10:03
zorglu_	hsihh: oh ok wait	10:03
buzzy-	such as?	10:03
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intelikey	!vlc	10:04
ubotu	Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs	10:04
zorglu_	hsihh: would be a long list of 20000 package, not sure it is meaning full tho	10:04
hsihh	zorglu_ honey, i want only list of apps installed from cd	10:04
buzzy-	intelikey, what is the best and lighter audio player?	10:04
buzzy-	zorglu_, ?	10:04
intelikey	in that ^ Audio (Ogg, MP3...) should be Audio (Ogg, MP3, WAV...)	10:04
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zorglu_	buzzy-: xmms is light, ogg123 is even lighter :)	10:05
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zorglu_	hsihh: well this one is untrivial to get	10:05
King_Brad	is there a command i can issue at console to make my nix box show me mem stats?	10:05
intelikey	buzzy- i like vlc if you need a gui app. but you already have sox a cli app for playing audio.	10:05
zorglu_	hsihh: by apps you mean packages ?	10:05
david_edmundson	King_Brad: free	10:05
King_Brad	like how much swap is being used, how much physical mem is being used etc	10:05
King_Brad	free.	10:05
King_Brad	k	10:05
King_Brad	awsome	10:05
King_Brad	thanks	10:05
david_edmundson	np	10:05
zorglu_	vmstat :)	10:06
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King_Brad	my nix router uses vmstat	10:06
hsihh	zorglu_ k3b etc.	10:06
Karol84PL	Hello. Do you know any Linux replacement for Windows Kazaa?	10:06
david_edmundson	bear in mind to remove the amount that's cached. That's from programs that have closed, but linux doens't bother flushing it out, until there's another program that wants to use the space.	10:06
buzzy-	intelikey, but there u can t fast forward or rewind!!	10:06
buzzy-	on sox	10:06
david_edmundson	Karol84PL: Gift	10:06
buzzy-	i mesan	10:06
intelikey	buzzy- vlc plays most audio without need for codecs, (i know you have already installed w32codecs)	10:06
zorglu_	hsihh: for that i think the kubuntu guide is the best place to look at	10:06
david_edmundson	Karol84PL: apollon is the better client for it methinks	10:06
King_Brad	you know, i've found, my nix router makes my old linksys router and my cisco router look like pieces of shit	10:07
zorglu_	hsihh: the package list wont be meaningfull in this case	10:07
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Chozabu	Hi everyone, ive been at uni about a week - and cannot connect to the network in ubuntu (though it works in windows) - i am not assigned an ip, and running 'sudo dhclient' returns 'No DHCPOFFERS received.'	10:07
zorglu_	!p2p	10:07
buzzy-	intelikey, can i by sox make rewind or FF?	10:07
ubotu	Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.	10:07
intelikey	buzzy- but some people say vlc is ugly. vlc plays audio and vidio	10:07
hsihh	zorglu_ thank you	10:07
Chozabu	anyone have any ideas?	10:07
buzzy-	intelikey, i know well vlc ;) i m installin' it	10:07
Karol84PL	david_edmundson: thanks a lot	10:08
intelikey	buzzy- i don't think so. only skip and replay not FF or REW	10:08
zorglu_	Chozabu: check if your network card is working	10:08
buzzy-	ok intelikey	10:09
Chozabu	zorglu_ how exactly do you mean? it worked with both my routers at home, and it works here in windoes?	10:09
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zorglu_	Chozabu: your network card may not be supported out of the box by ubuntu. if so it would explain the issue you meet	10:09
intelikey	buzzy- but i do this a lot in cli " for Q in /my/music/dir/* ;do play $Q ;done " and if you have something you don't want to hear, killall sox will stop that file and start the next one.	10:10
zorglu_	Chozabu: you may use 'ip link' to see the network interface in ubuntu	10:10
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intelikey	i have even writen a script to ramdomize the play order.	10:11
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zorglu_	intelikey: $RANDOM ? :) i uses this one for movies :)	10:11
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Chozabu	zorglu_: i mean, in ubuntu at home, it worked fine with both my routers, do you still think it may be because its unsupported?	10:18
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intelikey	buzzy one can write a play list and for Q in `cat list.file` ;do play $Q ;done	10:18
zorglu_	Chozabu: ohhhhh so you already got the network working via ubuntu, but only at homme	10:18
zorglu_	Cho	10:18
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zorglu_	Chozabu: and it fails but at another place, do i get it ?	10:18
buzzy	intelikey, ok	10:18
soulrider	i got a page with some MP3s, is there any way to make a program just downlaod the .mp3 files ?	10:18
soulrider	and no, its not illegal music :P	10:18
zorglu_	soulrider: wget can do it	10:18
soulrider	i thought so	10:18
soulrider	how can i do it do it? :P	10:18
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zorglu_	some man page reading :) i dont remember on top of my head, but already did something like that	10:18
zorglu_	so it is possible	10:18
soulrider	ahh ok	10:18
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zorglu_	wget -r -l1 --no-parent -A.gif http://www.server.com/dir/ <- seen at the end of the wget man page	10:18
zorglu_	seems very close to what you want	10:18
soulrider	thanks!	10:18
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Chozabu	zorglu_sorry for the slow reply, ye you get it prefectly, sorry for messing up my explenation before :)	10:18
steveire	Hey, Aptitude wants to uninstall firefox-dom-inspector, saying it's unused, but I am clearly using it. How do I protect it?	10:18
zorglu_	Chozabu: well it is some issue with the dhcp... i dunno where to look. and im tired :)	10:18
zorglu_	Chozabu: not very helpfull i know :(	10:18
hyper	Just a question: who set ubuntu to doublt-cllick to start a program or open a folder and who uses a single-click?	10:19
intelikey	hyper single click gets in my way.....	10:19
hyper	intelikey: I just like that single click just selects and double-click actually calls an action... but maybe that's just my windozed-brain	10:20
intelikey	if you do very much file management single click is anoying yep ^ that	10:21
Chozabu	zorglu_: well, im really stuck on this one, so if you happen to come accross a solution at anytime, it would be amazing if you could e-mail me on my nick @gmail.com - if not, no worries!	10:21
intelikey	or memoserv Chozabu	10:22
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Acidic32	!adept-crash-fix	10:26
ubotu	If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	10:26
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steveire	Here's a demo of the aptitude issue. Does there need to be a dependancy issue resolved here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25756/	10:27
buzzy	how can i convert my wav files to mp3's ?? which is the best tool?	10:27
buzzy	intelikey, zorglu_ ?	10:28
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JohnFlux	buzzy: mencoder - part of mplayer	10:28
buzzy	JohnFlux, is it the best one?	10:29
JohnFlux	buzzy: i think you all use the same libraries	10:30
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buzzy	JohnFlux, how do i start mencoder?	10:31
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JohnFlux	buzzy: it's a command line program	10:31
JohnFlux	buzzy: you want something with a gui?	10:31
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King_Brad	hrm	10:32
buzzy	JohnFlux, yea	10:32
JohnFlux	!mp3	10:32
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	10:32
King_Brad	i have a odd question, why does SimplyMepis Bring me to this channel?	10:32
JohnFlux	buzzy: dunno	10:32
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buzzy	lol	10:33
buzzy	on CLI JohnFlux ?	10:33
heinkel_111	hello, can someone tell me what it means when I get this kind of directory listing (notice missing attributes). In bash, I get names printed in red text w/ black background. See paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25758/	10:33
Acidic32	simply mepis is based on ubuntu!	10:33
JohnFlux	buzzy: see the second link that ubotu gave and install mp3 support and mplayer	10:33
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Acidic32	king_brad: simply mepis is based on ubuntu!	10:33
King_Brad	um, kubuntu actually	10:34
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King_Brad	kde desktop	10:34
Acidic32	king_brad: yes, because thats what it uses	10:34
King_Brad	but still, shouldnt it goto #mepis or something?	10:34
Acidic32	king_brad: mepis uses Ubuntu/Kubuntu packages	10:34
King_Brad	yea	10:34
Acidic32	King_brad: so there not changed for mepis.. :)	10:34
King_Brad	so basically im using kubuntu with a diffrent name?	10:34
zorglu_	did they changed the logo on boot at least ? :)	10:35
King_Brad	yea	10:35
Acidic32	zorglu_: yea	10:35
Acidic32	lol	10:35
zorglu_	wow good then :)	10:35
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King_Brad	hehehe	10:35
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King_Brad	k thx for info	10:35
Acidic32	np	10:35
King_Brad	ima go play GW for a bit	10:35
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heinkel_111	GW?	10:36
King_Brad	then take a nap, my daughter had 8 stiches in her toes today :(	10:36
King_Brad	guildWars	10:36
heinkel_111	k	10:36
heinkel_111	hello, can someone tell me what it means when I get this kind of directory listing (notice missing attributes). In bash, I get names printed in red text w/ black background. See paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25758/	10:36
Dr_willis	heinkel_111, try ls --nocolors	10:36
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Dr_willis	oops -nocolor	10:37
Dr_willis	silly ls	10:37
heinkel_111	Dr_willis: did you look at the list in the pastebin=? the list of files attributes look like this ?--------- ? ? ? ?	10:37
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Dr_willis	its still loading...	10:38
Dr_willis	pastebin isso slow these days - its usless at times	10:38
heinkel_111	the color i can live with (although i am not able to find out what they all mean :S	10:38
Dr_willis	or its the 20 torrents i got goint on. :)	10:38
heinkel_111	haha	10:38
heinkel_111	:)	10:38
intelikey	alias ls='/bin/ls -A --colour=auto'	10:38
heinkel_111	must be my 5 lines of ascii paste :P	10:38
zorglu_	look at the character encoding	10:39
Dr_willis	The environment variable LS_COLORS can influence the colors, and can be set easily by the dircolors command.	10:39
Dr_willis	dircolors - color setup for ls	10:39
zorglu_	and is this a mounted partition ?	10:39
zorglu_	what is the fuilesystem	10:39
heinkel_111	mm yes	10:39
heinkel_111	it is on my /	10:40
heinkel_111	which is a reiserfs3	10:40
zorglu_	ls -ln /opt/blablalba	10:40
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zorglu_	did that fix part of the '?'	10:40
heinkel_111	zorglu_: negative	10:41
intelikey	zorglu_ /opt ?	10:41
zorglu_	intelikey: the path of the dir on which he got issue	10:41
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zorglu_	no idea then	10:41
heinkel_111	looks like a try again!	10:41
zorglu_	intelikey: look at the PS1 in the pastebin	10:42
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zorglu_	totalt 0 <- from pastebin, are you in german or any non english stuff	10:43
zorglu_	ok dunno, going to bed, have fun	10:44
zorglu_	and if you find my brain, page me :)	10:44
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intelikey	the lack of information is a bit deluding at best....	10:44
intelikey	that's a web server mount ?	10:45
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intelikey	heinkel_111 do mount \| grep -e /opt please	10:46
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heinkel_111	intellikey my /opt is not on a separate filesystem	10:50
intelikey	7. ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? mods/fh/init.con <--- is that the same as your paste or did something get lost in the web translation	10:52
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intelikey	7. ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? mods/fh/init.con	10:53
heinkel_111	intellikey, i solved the problem... it was a chmod 0 directory for some strange reason	10:54
heinkel_111	thanks for advice	10:55
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Kubu	hi	10:55
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intelikey	heinkel_111 ah yes you could exec but could not read or vice versa yeah that will do it tooo.	10:58
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trappist	hyper: still around?	10:59
Riddell	** three minutes to meeting in #ubuntu-meeting	10:59
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hyper	trappist: still here :)	11:00
trappist	hyper: after looking at the code and the interface, I no longer know what you mean :) here, you don't select a directory of images to use, you select images	11:01
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thunderstorm	hi@all	11:01
hyper	you can adda directory	11:01
thunderstorm	can somebody help me with the "sed" command?	11:01
hyper	I've done that :)	11:01
thunderstorm	i have a lot of problems with it :(	11:01
trappist	hyper: you're talking about a desktop background slide show, right?	11:01
intelikey	thunderstorm what you trying to do ?	11:01
thunderstorm	i want to make search and replace in my sql-dump (a simple textfile)	11:02
hyper	tappist: yes I am... put a few images into a folder and add the folder itselt	11:02
hyper	it will make a slide shows of the images in the folder	11:02
thunderstorm	like this: sed -i 's/old/new/g' dump.sql	11:02
hyper	I have added /media/hdb3/samba/wallpapers/	11:02
Hattori	i was able to install wifi with ndiswrapper, but each time i reboot i have to do those commands: sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper; sudo ifconfig eth1 up. Any way to automate those passages at boot time?	11:03
hyper	it slides the images within that folder... but not within the subfolders	11:03
trappist	hyper: ok I gotcha	11:03
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thunderstorm	('script_path','/')	11:03
hyper	trappist: maybe that's a bug in kde itself	11:03
thunderstorm	('script_path','/board') new	11:03
hyper	trappist: I don't know... but just adding a folder works to display the images in there :)	11:04
thunderstorm	sed -i 's/('script_path','/')/('script_path','/forum')/g' dump.sql -> this command not work	11:04
trappist	hyper: no, there's no kde-ish reason that dialog couldn't search the dir recursively for images	11:04
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thunderstorm	intelikey: you understand my problem?	11:04
hyper	trappist: I meant maybe it's not even intended to add a folder for displaying images in there... maybe it is intended to add image files only and due to a bug it works also with folders	11:05
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intelikey	thunderstorm being that it's sql (which i know nothing about) i'll have to pass. but the syntax looks right. except one thing. the use of ' to enclose the whole. 's/'blah'/'blah'/g' try another quoting method "s/'blah'/./"	11:06
trappist	hyper: no, it deliberately accepts folders too	11:06
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hyper	trappist: Oh... ok :) so you think you could add a recursive function there?	11:06
trappist	yes	11:07
intelikey	thunderstorm if you see what i'm getting at. the single quote closed with the first and second ' not the full string.	11:07
thunderstorm	i have try it so, but it dont works	11:07
hyper	trappist: I'm going to love you ^^	11:07
Hattori	i was able to install wifi with ndiswrapper, but each time i reboot i have to do those commands: sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper; sudo ifconfig eth1 up. Any way to automate those passages at boot time?	11:07
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david_edmundson	Hattori: add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules	11:08
hyper	Hattoir: maybe you could write a shell script and add that to ~/.kde/Autostart/	11:08
trappist	hyper: heh don't get your hopes up :) I've identified where it needs to go, but who knows if I'm smart enough to write it, and if I am, who knows if the patch'll get accepted.	11:08
david_edmundson	it will load the module on boot	11:08
david_edmundson	and it should do that before the network is initiatlized, so you won't have to take it down and back up again.	11:08
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hyper	trappist: Maybe another solution would be to add individual images to the list by a text list... so you could create a .txt file with all the files and paths in there and read that in	11:09
hyper	trappist: maybe that would be easier to accomplish	11:09
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trappist	Hattori: man interfaces - I believe you can specify I script to run on ifup there	11:10
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hyper	is pureftp the only ftp that I can set a bandwidth limit?	11:20
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Scherminator	just an short offtopic question: is there a chanel, were people deal with 0-days..., share scripts etc?	11:22
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GrandWizard	Hello	11:22
Scherminator	hi	11:23
GrandWizard	I'm a little bit drunk, and I need to talk to somebody interesting right now.	11:23
Scherminator	jep	11:23
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will	Hey, The blender3d package in the repository is one behind, I was wondering if there is any way I could get in contact with the maintainer to update it?	11:23
GrandWizard	Or I might die	11:23
Scherminator	i am hearing	11:23
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trappist	hyper: I'm about to have to leave, so I'll tell you where I got to: apt-get source kdebase, cd to kdebase-3.5.4/kcontrol/background, check out bgwallpaper.cpp starting around line 156	11:24
GrandWizard	Any secret agents/stunt men/port actresses/presidents here?	11:24
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Scherminator	ahh just a moment my syser wanna the keyboard for a moment, but i am scaffold jones ( ;	11:25
trappist	GrandWizard: #kubuntu-offtopic please	11:25
hyper	trappist: well, I don't know any c++	11:25
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GrandWizard	Hey I know c++	11:25
trappist	hyper: pfft. me neither, but that doesn't mean I haven't been able to hack some in with some googling and trial and error	11:26
hyper	trappist: ok :)	11:26
GrandWizard	I once made a girl scream using only a temporary object	11:26
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GNUro	hi	11:27
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GrandWizard	She complained about the extent of my pointer.	11:28
hyper	trappist: got the file :)	11:28
trappist	GrandWizard: again, #kubuntu-offtopic please	11:29
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intelikey	GrandWizard Error out please.	11:29
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hyper	trappist: I'll also have a look...maybe I can work out something :)	11:32
GrandWizard	join sex	11:33
GrandWizard	street face	11:33
GrandWizard	peace lake	11:34
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hyper	hmmm, trappist: or maybe I just should email the last maintainer of the wallpaper file :)	11:34
GrandWizard	#list	11:34
GrandWizard	\list	11:34
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trappist	hyper: or better yet, file a wishlist at bugs.kde.org	11:36
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GNUro	my firefox (edgy) crash with gmail (standard view)	11:37
hyper	trappist: Maybe I'll do that as soon as I find out what that wishlist ist ^^	11:37
bluch	!VMware	11:37
ubotu	VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare	11:37
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trappist	hyper: https://bugs.kde.org/wizard.cgi (need an account first)	11:39
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hyper	trappist: having a look there :)	11:41
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brolik	!es	11:44
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	11:44
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hyper	How can I give priority to a programm so that it gets assigned more cpu?	11:54
intelikey	hyper renice	11:55
hyper	intelikey: thx :)	11:55
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superlex86	ciao	11:58
superlex86	hello world	11:59
superlex86	there are any italian people?	11:59
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nethen	hello	12:00
superlex86	hi nethen	12:01
superlex86	where are you from?	12:01
hyper	intelikey: the higher the priority the sooner it will get executed?	12:01
nethen	I have just installed kubuntu beta, and the hard disk is working restless, is there a updatedb, file_indexer, or something in the background?	12:02
nethen	superlex86: northern Spain	12:02
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david_edmundson	nethen: you're possibly paging(using "virtual memory" ) due to higher requirements	12:03
david_edmundson	nethen: type "free" into a terminal, and see if you'er swap is in use.	12:03
superlex86	This summer I think that I go to Barcelona	12:03
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nethen	david_edmundson: nope, swap used: 0	12:03
david_edmundson	well that's probably a good thing :-D	12:04
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nethen	I have 1GB of RAM, 511M being used	12:04
nethen	I am going to make an apt-get dist-upgrade, maybe that will solve :S, david_edmundson	12:05
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superlex86	Bye bye ciao bella gente!	12:05
hyper	only 511 mb used?	12:05
david_edmundson	what do you mean only?? I used to only have 256 total	12:05
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nethen	nethen@nethen-laptop:~$ free -m	12:06
nethen	total used free shared buffers cached	12:06
nethen	Mem: 1011 505 505 0 90 279	12:06
david_edmundson	got on fine till Edgy, then it pushed it over the edge and I had to get moer.	12:06
david_edmundson	*more.	12:06
hyper	I heard a couple of time: "Free memory --> wasted memory" since linux handles things idfferently from windows	12:06
david_edmundson	kinda. In windows when you close an app, it clears out the memory that app used.	12:06
david_edmundson	in linux when you close an app, it marks it as "ok to delete" (cached)	12:07
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david_edmundson	if another app is launched and you need memory, then it gets rid of it adn loads this new app	12:07
david_edmundson	if you load the one you just closed again, tada it's still in memory and it loads super fast.	12:08
david_edmundson	...and that's why I don't like cricket	12:08
nethen	hehehe	12:08
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