[09:09] <nysosym> goood morning fschoep :)
[09:09] <fschoep> Ni nysosym
[09:09] <fschoep> Hi nysosym *
[09:09] <nysosym> how are u?
[09:10] <fschoep> nysosym: Got a cold, otherwise fine, you?
[09:10] <nysosym> the same like u ;)
[09:10] <nysosym> I'll make me some coffee now
[09:11] <fschoep> nysosym: great, I'm the weekly dev meeting so I might reply a bit late everytime
[09:12] <nysosym> absolute no problem :)))
[09:25] <nysosym> what i ever wanna ask fschoep, is developing ubuntu your main job?
[09:26] <fschoep> nysosym: kind of at the moment, yes
[09:26] <nysosym> well paid? :D
[09:26] <fschoep> nysosym: I can't comment on that one in public
[09:26] <nysosym> ok i understand this :)
[09:26] <fschoep> nysosym: OK
[09:27] <fschoep> :)
[09:27] <BHSPitLappy> well, the profits those shipit cd's bring in have to go somewhere
[09:27] <fschoep> BHSPitLappy: right :)
[09:27] <BHSPitLappy> ;)
[09:27] <BHSPitLappy> so you're a Canonical dude or something?
[09:28] <BHSPitLappy> I work for Wendy's... not quite as noble an endeavor
[09:28] <fschoep> No I'm just a normal person working on Ubuntu but I'm being paid for it
[09:28] <BHSPitLappy> ah.
[09:28] <nysosym> wendys BHSPitLappy?
[09:29] <BHSPitLappy> nysosym, it's a restaurant chain, like McDonald's, etc
[09:29] <BHSPitLappy> but better food ;)
[09:29] <fschoep> It's a bit of a coincidence I got this opportunity but I really like doing this
[09:29] <BHSPitLappy> I've gotta get to bed, night night everyone
[09:29] <nysosym> ahhh okay, i`m from german and never hear that name :D
[09:29] <BHSPitLappy> yeah, lucky lucky fschoep
[09:29] <nysosym> gn8 BHSPitLappy :)
[09:29] <fschoep> BHSPitLappy: g'night
[09:29] <BHSPitLappy> night
[09:30] <nysosym> fschoep: a dev "only" for the art, or everything about ubuntu?
[09:31] <fschoep> nysosym: my role is officially "Artist in Chief" so I'm on the artwork side mainly
[09:31] <fschoep> But I don't mind fixing bugs in code or anything
[09:32] <nysosym> ahh ok, i will go to do the same like u, in future :)
[09:32] <nysosym> i love graphic design ^^
[09:32] <fschoep> nysosym: great, I hope you will be on the team for next release :)
[09:32] <nysosym> :D sure
[09:32] <nysosym> i will try m best
[09:33] <fschoep> Good
[09:33] <fschoep> Have you had a chance to get that mail priority emblem to work?
[09:33] <nysosym> but at moment i do everything to find these (sorry) stupid icon....
[09:33] <nysosym> fschoep: nothing, sry :(
[09:34] <fschoep> OK, no problem I'll look into it today
[09:34] <nysosym> i have asked the gnome people, but they can't help me :(
[09:34] <nysosym> fschoep: maybe a bug? :D
[09:34] <fschoep> nysosym: could be, if I can't get it to work I'll seek out further advice
[09:35] <nysosym> fine :)
[09:36] <nysosym> thanks for all :)
[09:37] <nysosym> for me it's a honesty that MY icons will be in the next ubuntu release :)))
[09:37] <nysosym> brb :)
[09:55] <nysosym> re :D
[10:09] <nysosym> fschoep: how long is such a developer meeting? :)
[10:09] <fschoep> nysosym: one to one-and-a-half hours
[10:10] <fschoep> we're done now
[10:10] <nysosym> any results? :)
[10:10] <fschoep> nysosym: just the weekly status update and the fact that final artwork needs to go in this week
[10:12] <nysosym> although many many many work... :-/
[10:17] <akulah> I have a problem
[10:17] <fschoep> akulah: shoot
[10:17] <akulah> the usplash in edgy don't show
[10:18] <fschoep> akulah: I think that's a known issue
[10:18] <akulah> i created a new one
[10:18] <akulah> but still didn't work
[10:18] <fschoep> akulah: I see
[10:18] <fschoep> akulah: did you follow the Wiki HowTo?
[10:19] <akulah> partialy
[10:19] <fschoep> OK, if you follow it completely step by step it might work?
[10:19] <akulah> no
[10:20] <akulah> it worked for dapper
[10:20] <akulah> but not for edgy
[10:20] <akulah> even the tools used are different
[10:20] <fschoep> Right, I know of people who got it to work
[10:21] <fschoep> I'm afraid I can't help you with it right now, maybe others can
[10:21] <akulah> tnx very much
[10:22] <akulah> I'll keep trying
[10:22] <akulah> :)
[10:22] <akulah> cheers!
[10:22] <nixternal> akulah: i can help you get it fixed
[10:22] <nixternal>  /etc/usplash.conf
[10:23] <nixternal> set it to 1024 and 768 respectedly..and then 'sudo update-initramfs -u' and then reboot..you should have a Usplash ;)
[10:23] <akulah> OK
[10:23] <nixternal> if that don'e work...then the links between /etc/alternatives and /usr/lib/usplash are broken
[10:23] <akulah> I'm on it
[10:24] <nixternal> hehe..i have done triage on this bug all week long..not really an artwork issue all that much as it is a bad usplash.conf or broken symlinks
[10:24] <nixternal> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 2006-10-04 16:53 /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so
[10:25] <akulah> I've checked out the links
[10:25] <akulah> and are ok
[10:25] <nixternal> ok..so they are good?
[10:25] <nixternal> good deal.how about the usplash.conf?
[10:26] <nixternal> i love the /cmd script with konversation...no more doing it in konsole then copy and pasting
[10:26] <akulah> thre usplash.conf has to be modified
[10:26] <nixternal> here is mine
[10:26] <nixternal> # Usplash configuration file
[10:26] <nixternal> xres=1024
[10:26] <nixternal> yres=768
[10:27] <akulah> mine:
[10:27] <akulah> # Usplash configuration file
[10:27] <akulah> xres=640
[10:27] <akulah> yres=480
[10:27] <nixternal> the reason you may not have seen it, is because the monitor picked it up as "out of synch"
[10:27] <nixternal> ya, set it like mine, then 'sudo update-initramfs -u' and reboot to see if that works
[10:27] <akulah> k
[10:28] <akulah> just done it
[10:28] <akulah> tnx
[10:28] <nixternal> no problem ;)
[10:28] <akulah> I have to reboot
[10:28] <akulah> :)
[10:28] <nixternal> yay
[10:28] <nixternal> haha
[10:28] <akulah> o
[10:28] <akulah> just one question
[10:28] <nixternal> shoot
[10:29] <akulah> do I have to set the vga in /boot/grub/menu.lst to 791?
[10:29] <nixternal> no
[10:29] <akulah> ok
[10:29] <nixternal> i never messed with it, and from what i have seen, those who have, had worse problems
[10:29] <akulah> ok
[10:30] <akulah> bye
[10:30] <nixternal> ya, i just double checked, mine is commented out, so it doesn't do it
[10:30] <nixternal> later
[10:30] <nixternal> enjoy
[10:30] <akulah> and thanx again
[10:30] <nixternal> np
[10:55] <nysosym> hi Huwshimi :))
[10:55] <Huwshimi> Hi nysosym
[11:18] <nysosym> wb  fschoep :)
[11:18] <fschoep> nysosym: what's up?
[11:18] <fschoep> nysosym: I got dropped since I closed my Macbook's lid :)
[11:18] <nysosym> any steps forward with the icon? :D
[11:19] <fschoep> nysosym: working on those still, doing lots of work in between, but getting there
[11:19] <nysosym> are u the only one who works on the artwork?
[11:19] <fschoep> mostly, yes
[11:20] <nysosym> wow O.o
[11:20] <fschoep> Well, I'm not the only one *doing* the artwork
[11:21] <fschoep> But I am the one working on getting it in there
[11:21] <fschoep> And making sure it works and it's good and all
[11:21] <nysosym> sure, but although a huge mission
[11:22] <fschoep> Yes, I'm glad you see that :)
[11:23] <nysosym> good speed! ;)
[11:31] <nysosym> hi andreasn :)
[11:31] <andreasn> hi
[11:33] <nysosym> how are u?
[11:34] <andreasn> just fine
[11:34] <andreasn> about to go to the bank and get myself some dollars
[11:34] <andreasn> before leaving for boston tomorrow
[11:34] <andreasn> what about you?
[11:41] <nysosym> i'm fine too
[11:42] <fschoep> Seveas: how are you doing? I've trying to contact you regarding the spotlight usplash.
[11:42] <fschoep> I've been*
[11:43] <Seveas> fschoep, just replied
[11:43] <fschoep> Seveas: right, I'll e-mail it again
[11:45] <fschoep> Seveas: attached and sent
[11:48] <nysosym> fschoep: i`ve been a new step forward with the emblems, the "unread" icon in the sidebar works perfectly now :)
[11:49] <fschoep> nysosym: any special trick?
[11:49] <nysosym> no, just made a copy of "emblem-readonly.svg" and rename the copy to "emblem-nowrite.svg" :)
[11:50] <fschoep> nysosym: right
[11:50] <nysosym> you know that? :D
[11:51] <fschoep> nysosym: now I know ;0
[11:51] <fschoep> nysosym: I'm cleaning up my Edgy to make sure the emblems work with a minimum of changes
[11:51] <nysosym> :)
[11:53] <nysosym> very strange, the "stock_mail-priority-high" icon is only available in "Human", "Tangerine", and "Tango"
[11:58] <Seveas> fschoep, could you pint me to the background image for the spotlight theme
[11:58] <fschoep> Seveas: sure
[11:59] <fschoep> http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/final/png/usplash_rlsl_7_000.png
[11:59] <fschoep> Can you use one of the static frame as a background?
[11:59] <fschoep> frames*
[11:59] <fschoep> I think you can fill up the rest of the screen with dark brown at the edges
[12:00] <fschoep> Seveas: brb
[12:00] <nysosym> fschoep: I HAVE THE ANSWER :DDD
[12:01] <nysosym> "rename "emblem-stock_mail-priority-high.svg" to "stock_mail-priority-high.svg"
[12:01] <nysosym> it works perfectly :)
[12:02] <fschoep> nysosym: right, thanks - that solves all problems then?
[12:02] <fschoep> Seveas: back
[12:02] <nysosym> yes, all is solved :)
[12:02] <fschoep> nysosym: one thing left
[12:02] <nysosym> what?
[12:02] <fschoep> nysosym: keeping the existing desktop emblem
[12:02] <fschoep> nysosym: and having it in prerendered sizes
[12:03] <nysosym> the emblems?
[12:03] <fschoep> yes, the Human desktop emblem
[12:04] <nysosym> hmm the ubuntu logo? *unsure*
[12:04] <fschoep> nysosym: no, we have this teeny tiny desktop emblem
[12:04] <fschoep> nysosym: it is normally on top of the desktop folder
[12:04] <nysosym> yes
[12:04] <nysosym> i have maked a new one *shame*
[12:05] <fschoep> we need to find a way to keep that one while adding yours
[12:05] <fschoep> nysosym: I know you made a new one, but I think we can't drop the existing one
[12:05] <fschoep> nysosym: the current one needs to be in there because of the desktop-button in the lower left corner
[12:06] <nysosym> but my new one is only in the Emblems, in menus are everything "old"
[12:06] <nysosym>  hmm
[12:06] <fschoep> nysosym: that's the problem
[12:06] <fschoep> nysosym: we need to keep the current desktop icon in the emblems for consistency
[12:06] <fschoep> nysosym: the others can all be yours
[12:06] <nysosym> although u need, the original for the "Desktop" folder in home?
[12:06] <fschoep> nysosym: yes
[12:06] <nysosym> ok
[12:07] <nysosym> but i haven't a backup of my original human folder :/
[12:07] <fschoep> I think you could do a "sudo apt-get --reinstall install human-icon-theme"
[12:07] <nysosym> ok mom :)
[12:07] <fschoep> nysosym: make sure you have a backup though!
[12:08] <nysosym> yes
[12:09] <nysosym> personally i use my icon ^^
[12:09] <nysosym> looks much better in the home folder :D
[12:10] <fschoep> nysosym: I see, but could you try keeping the original one?
[12:10] <nysosym> sure! no problem :)
[12:10] <fschoep> nysosym: keep in mind that Human contains prerendered version of that emblem so you might need to futz around with index.theme a bit
[12:10] <fschoep> versions*
[12:13] <fschoep> nysosym: brb, lunchtime :)
[12:13] <nysosym> k have fun :)
[12:13] <fschoep> thanks
[12:27] <Seveas> hmm, imagemagick +map does NOT do what it's supposed to...
[12:37] <cbx33> Frank been around yeT?
[12:52] <nysosym> no
[12:56] <Seveas> yes
[12:56] <Seveas> he left not too long before you joined
[12:59] <nysosym> brb
[01:02] <nysosym> returned :)
[01:04] <nysosym> hi nenotnom :)
[01:13] <nenotnom> nysosym: hey
[01:14] <nysosym> how are u? :)
[01:14] <nenotnom> I'm fine, you?
[01:14] <nysosym> fine too :)
[01:14] <nysosym> any problems? :)
[01:15] <nenotnom> no art related problems
[01:15] <nysosym> ok :)
[01:17] <cbx33> dang it
[01:17] <cbx33> well you guys are art....so http://www.progbox.co.uk/finals/RC/exportUB2.ogg
[01:17] <cbx33> shorter startup sound
[01:20] <nysosym> very very good :)
[01:21] <cbx33> really?
[01:21] <nysosym> is that your own creation?
[01:21] <cbx33> I'm gonna do the shutdown tonight
[01:21] <cbx33> yeh
[01:21] <cbx33> I rerecorded it all last night with my nice new sound card
[01:21] <nysosym> respect
[01:21] <nysosym> which type of sound card one with asio support? :)
[01:25] <nysosym> wb fschoep :)
[01:25] <fschoep> nysosym: hi
[01:25] <fschoep> nysosym: it wasn't a long lunch, I also did some other print work :)
[01:26] <nysosym> you have 2 new mails, but please ignore the first one ^^
[01:26] <fschoep> nysosym: I saw them, yes
[01:26] <fschoep> nysosym: did you manage to keep the original Human desktop emblem?
[01:26] <nysosym> yes
[01:26] <nysosym> all works like a sharm
[01:26] <fschoep> nysosym: even prerendered?
[01:26] <cbx33> fschoep http://www.progbox.co.uk/finals/RC/exportUB2.ogg
[01:26] <fschoep> Hey cbx33 didn't see you get on, hi!
[01:26] <cbx33> nysosym: it's a delta 1010
[01:26] <cbx33> hi
[01:26] <cbx33> i gotta go teach my python class now
[01:27] <fschoep> cbx33: MP3 please ;) ?
[01:27] <fschoep> cbx33: on Mac
[01:27] <nysosym> fschoep: yes even prerendered :d
[01:27] <nysosym> :d
[01:27] <nysosym> ^^
[01:27] <cbx33> I'll have to do that in a min ;)
[01:27] <cbx33> I'll get it for you in about an hour ;)
[01:27] <fschoep> nysosym: OK, thanks - I'll be going through it and I'll pass it to Daniel if it's looking good.
[01:28] <nysosym> fschoep: no problem, i will thank u! :(
[01:28] <nysosym> :) *
[01:28] <fschoep> nysosym: I'm here if you find an error, otherwise I'll get in touch with you
[01:28] <Seveas> fschoep, I am getting increasingly frustrated with both the gimp and imagemagick
[01:28] <fschoep> nysosym: thanks for doing the additional debugging work ;)
[01:28] <Seveas> they seem to ignore me
[01:28] <fschoep> Seveas: I can understand, so can I help?
[01:28] <Seveas> I am trying to make all images use the same palette
[01:28] <fschoep> Right
[01:28] <Seveas> but whatever I do, one image fails to use that palette
[01:29] <Seveas> only one(!)
[01:29] <fschoep> Always one
[01:29] <fschoep> Only one
[01:29] <fschoep> What are you trying exactly?
[01:29] <Seveas> once that is done, the theme is finished
[01:29] <fschoep> Seveas: ooh, shiny
[01:29] <fschoep> Can I help you by making sure they all use the same palette?
[01:30] <Seveas> it's the progressbar image that is now failing
[01:31] <fschoep> Hmm. Can't you create a new one based on the new palette?
[01:31] <fschoep> Or use a simple flat one?
[01:31] <Seveas> I refuse to let some piece of software win ;)
[01:31] <fschoep> Seveas: right :)
[01:32] <fschoep> Seveas: I'd say go for the flat progress bar route if all else fails
[01:32] <fschoep> Seveas: if I can help you by doing something with GIMP let me know, I'm here to help you out
[01:37] <nysosym> fschoep: the network panel icon, is very stretched, a known bug, is that an artwork problem or a other?
[01:37] <nysosym> (i know that bug from dapper) ^^
[01:37] <fschoep> nysosym: https://launchpad.net/bugs/57626
[01:38] <fschoep> nysosym: I patched is yesterday evening, fix is uploaded just now
[01:38] <fschoep> it*
[01:38] <nysosym> ahh okay :)
[01:38] <fschoep> nysosym: enjoy
[01:41] <nysosym> nice, thx :)
[01:46] <fschoep> cbx33: any luck with the MP3?
[01:48] <nysosym> the main server is sooo slow (11kbs).. *fail*
[01:49] <Seveas> ok, so it looks like the palette is correct after all
[01:50] <Seveas> but something in usplash is fucking up the pallette very, very bad
[01:51] <fschoep> Seveas: oh dear, can you work around it?
[01:51] <Seveas> no idea
[01:52] <fschoep> Otherwise, trying a flat progress bar?
[01:52] <fschoep> I'm all for a simple progress bar :)
[01:53] <nysosym> brb *system is restarting*
[01:53] <Seveas> actually, kamion broke it
[01:53] <Seveas> while trying to 'fix' it for framebuffers
[01:53] <Seveas> %#*&&@#!$@
[01:54] <fschoep> Seveas: he's probably in u-devel go ahead and take a trout ;)
[01:54] <Seveas> great, we now have white progressbars and blue text *everywhere*
[01:55] <fschoep> Seveas: sounds good for Kubuntu
[01:55] <Seveas> no
[01:55] <Seveas> the kubuntu theme also looks horrible
[01:55] <fschoep> Seveas: sorry, I was just trying to make a joke
[01:56] <Seveas> and it looks like mjg59 is the one who broke it
[01:56] <fschoep> Seveas: right, can I help you fix it somehow?
[01:57] <nysosym> re
[01:57] <ppd> hi
[01:57] <fschoep> ppd: welcome
[01:57] <nysosym> hi ppd :)
[02:00] <fschoep> nysosym: question
[02:01] <fschoep> nysosym: why are all "large" directories missing from your index.theme?
[02:01] <nysosym> hmmmmm sry, "code optimizing"
[02:02] <fschoep> nysosym: OK
[02:02] <fschoep> nysosym: are there any real differences between the old and new index.theme?
[02:02] <fschoep> except for removing the large sizes?
[02:02] <Seveas> fschoep, creating the theme properly is now blocked on usplash being broken, other than that it's finished
[02:02] <nysosym> not really
[02:02] <fschoep> Seveas: that's good and bad to hear
[02:02] <fschoep> Seveas: must I contact Kamion or mjh59 to solve it?
[02:03] <fschoep> Seveas: I'm not too sure about usplash internals so maybe you should contact them directly?
[02:03] <Seveas> I poked mjg59 already
[02:03] <Seveas> don't know who broke it
[02:03] <fschoep> nysosym: OK, so it should work by just adding the SVGs now?
[02:03] <nysosym> sure
[02:03] <nysosym> i think so
[02:03] <fschoep> Seveas: I'm not sure either but Kamion said something about usplash this morning in the dev meeting.
[02:03] <Seveas> ok
[02:04] <fschoep> Seveas: let me try to find it for you
[02:04] <fschoep> "Kamion:   usplash: tasksel enhancements to fix resolution detection on fresh d-i installs still needed."
[02:04] <fschoep> Seveas: not sure if it's related
[02:05] <Seveas> no
[02:05] <fschoep> nysosym: OK great, saves me the trouble of checking index.theme :0
[02:05] <nysosym> :D
[02:05] <fschoep> Seveas: OK, then I'm probably not going to be able to help you
[02:08] <nysosym> fschoep: hmm when i reinstall the human package with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install human-icon-theme" the cursor theme isn't integrated in the Human folder
[02:09] <fschoep> nysosym: maybe install human cursor theme?
[02:09] <fschoep> just an idea?
[02:09] <nysosym> sure mom
[02:09] <troy_s> heyas fschoep
[02:09] <fschoep> troy_s: howdy
[02:10] <fschoep> troy_s: up early again eh?
[02:10] <troy_s> indeed
[02:10] <fschoep> troy_s: anything on your mind right now
[02:10] <nysosym> fschoep: aahh okay, that works, but than you must remove the cursor folder, from my human package :D
[02:10] <fschoep> nysosym: right, don't worry I'll make sure nothing bad happens!
[02:11] <fschoep> nysosym: if something goes wrong I'll point all bug reporters to YOU :-)
[02:11] <fschoep> j/k
[02:11] <Seveas> fschoep, I may have found the bug
[02:11] <fschoep> Seveas: can you explain it in understandable English?
[02:12] <Seveas> no
[02:12] <nysosym> fschoep: hehe okay :D
[02:12] <nysosym> i will go to work now
[02:12] <Seveas> I need to pinpoint it first ;)
[02:12] <nysosym> good bye my friends :)
[02:12] <fschoep> Seveas: OK I see
[02:12] <nysosym> and happy designing ;)
[02:12] <fschoep> nysosym: see you, thanks !
[02:12] <Seveas> otherwise I may say understandable rubbis
[02:12] <Seveas> h
[02:13] <fschoep> Seveas: right, if you need to vent anything I'm here - I can understand most technical gibberish
[02:14] <troy_s> nvidia aquired by intel possibly eh?
[02:14] <fschoep> troy_s: should be interesting
[02:14] <fschoep> troy_s: with ATI now under AMD?
[02:15] <cbx33> fschoep: do you still need an mp3
[02:15] <fschoep> cbx33: yes, please
[02:15] <cbx33> ok
[02:15] <cbx33> hang on
[02:16] <cbx33> I'll mail it to you ok?
[02:16] <fschoep> cbx33: yes, thanks
[02:16] <cbx33> done
[02:19] <fschoep> cbx33: I got it - do you have time later on to chat?
[02:19] <cbx33> i have 10 mins now
[02:19] <cbx33> and then possibly some more time in about an hour twenty or so
[02:20] <fschoep> Right let's do this now, then?
[02:20] <cbx33> sure
[02:20] <cbx33> pm?
[02:20] <cbx33> or here
[02:20] <fschoep> PM's better
[02:20] <cbx33> ok
[02:36] <fschoep> Seveas: any luck yet?
[02:37] <Seveas> fschoep, I filed it as bug 64171
[02:37] <fschoep> Seveas: OK, using Malone is probably the best way to go indeed
[02:37] <fschoep> Seveas: did it change like one day ago?
[02:37] <Seveas> no, but I didn't look at usplash for a few days
[02:39] <fschoep> OK, but it shouldn't be changing radically this late in the cycle I think (got disconnect because the battery ran flat).
[02:39] <Seveas> well, the change is a bugfix
[02:40] <Seveas> but it caused this new bug
[02:40] <fschoep> I see
[02:40] <Seveas> and I have no experience whatsovere programming raw libsvga, so I'm at a loss
[02:41] <fschoep> OK, maybe Keybuk can help if he's around and not too busy
[02:44] <Seveas> no, only mjg59 is intimately familiar with that code
[05:23] <cbx33> is frank around?
[06:38] <cbx33> fschoep,
[06:38] <cbx33> can you listen oggs now?
[06:39] <fschoep> cbx33: no Max
[06:39] <fschoep> Mac OS
[06:39] <cbx33> grrr
[06:39] <cbx33> hehe
[06:39] <fschoep> cbx33: I was working on another machine, switched keyboard quickly :)
[06:39] <cbx33> hehe
[06:39] <fschoep> Most of the time (always) when I'm on IRC I'm on Mac OS
[06:39] <cbx33> where is lame now
[06:39] <fschoep> lame.sf.net?
[06:40] <fschoep> You can send me OGGs, I'll upload them to my other machine and listen there
[06:41] <fschoep> cbx33: Oggs will be fine, too
[06:41] <cbx33> s'ok I'll getmp3s
[06:41] <cbx33> lame seems to have vanished from the repos
[06:41] <fschoep> cbx33: did you enable universe / multiverse?
[06:41] <PingunZ> Hey all
[06:41] <cbx33> yes
[06:41] <cbx33> you on dapper?
[06:41] <fschoep> Hi PingunZ
[06:42] <fschoep> cbx33: Breezy :P
[06:42] <fschoep> Kubuntu Breezy
[06:42] <PingunZ> Edgy :)
[06:42] <fschoep> I upgraded from Hoary early this year I think
[06:42] <fschoep> Well, "upgrade" is a nice word for a complete reinstall
[06:43] <cbx33> heheh
[06:43] <PingunZ> fschoep: Why don't you upgrade then ?
[06:43] <fschoep> PingunZ: it all works
[06:43] <cbx33> fschoep, I think you're gonna like it
[06:43] <fschoep> PingunZ: and I now use Mac OS X as my main OS on the Macbook
[06:43] <fschoep> PingunZ: bought an Apple keyboard mouse and connected it to my TFT
[06:43] <fschoep> PingunZ: works perfectly :)
[06:43] <PingunZ> But breezy is ultra slow compared to edgy
[06:43] <fschoep> cbx33: ooh shiny!
[06:44] <fschoep> PingunZ: I've got a fast machine ;)
[06:44] <PingunZ> fschoep: me too
[06:44] <fschoep> PingunZ: and it's K ubuntu
[06:44] <fschoep> PingunZ: I'm not sure, but Kubuntu Breezy feels good
[06:44] <cbx33> shiny?
[06:44] <fschoep> cbx33: yeah, it was an in-joke
[06:44] <fschoep> cbx33: too difficult to explain right now
[06:45] <fschoep> PingunZ: I run Dapper and Edgy under VMware, does that count?
[06:45] <cbx33> heheheh
[06:45] <PingunZ> I run Ubuntu edgy :)
[06:45] <PingunZ> uname[Linux Edgy 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Mon Oct 2 13:44:45 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux] 
[06:45] <fschoep> When I test Edgy, I tunnel VMware running on my Kubuntu Breezy via X11 to Mac OS X :0
[06:46] <fschoep> the mind boggles
[06:47] <PingunZ> fschoep: Backup && install edgy :)
[06:47] <fschoep> PingunZ: I should do that once it's released
[06:48] <fschoep> PingunZ: not sure if I get to it though - I'm kind of happy with my current setup and there's nothing I need on top of that
[06:48] <fschoep> PingunZ: maybe I'm getting old
[06:48] <PingunZ> So .. your like running MS95 :D
[06:48] <fschoep> nah :)
[06:48] <PingunZ> I'm on XP :D
[06:48] <fschoep> I've got that too somewhere
[06:48] <PingunZ> I haven't :)
[06:49] <fschoep> I use it for Cubase (ring a bell cbx33)?
[06:49] <PingunZ> Linux-only on this desky
[06:49] <fschoep> PingunZ: Linux, Mac and Windows only on my desk!
[06:49] <PingunZ> rofl
[06:49] <fschoep> PingunZ: I used to noodle around with Solaris, but that's not one of my pastimes anymore
[06:49] <cbx33> yup
[06:49] <PingunZ> At least no bsd or solaris :)
[06:49] <cbx33> ./me didn't like cubase
[06:50] <fschoep> I can understand
[06:50] <fschoep> It's just that Cubase came with my control surface so I used it
[06:50] <fschoep> mixer / control surface I should say
[06:50] <fschoep> It's a small Tascam US-428, maybe you know it
[06:51] <fschoep> cbx33: compiling lame :) ?
[06:52] <cbx33> heheeh
[06:52] <cbx33> I give up
[06:52] <cbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/finals/RC/export2.ogg
[06:53] <fschoep> cbx33: OK hang on
[06:53] <fschoep> cbx33: switching screens now
[06:54] <cbx33> ok
[06:55] <fschoep> cbx33: great
[06:55] <cbx33> yeh?
[06:55] <fschoep> cbx33: it's coming way closer now
[07:24] <PingunZ> cbx33: Can I comment that sound ?
[07:32] <cbx33> PingunZ, sure
[07:32] <PingunZ> Ok .. here I go :)
[07:33] <PingunZ> Well .. there are 2 main things .. 1) The end 2) The semi-climax
[07:33] <PingunZ> 1) The end keeps on going .. like 5 seconds ..
[07:33] <cbx33> wanna shorten it?
[07:33] <PingunZ> Yes :)
[07:33] <PingunZ> Just skip that end :)
[07:33] <cbx33> the semi climax?
[07:34] <PingunZ> The semi climax .. well this is hard to explain for me since I'm not english but I'll try :)
[07:34] <cbx33> ok
[07:34] <PingunZ> So .. you start with a little climax .. A tone .. A higher tone .. and then .. Instead of an even higher tone you repeat nearly the same tone
[07:34] <PingunZ> Got it ? :)
[07:34] <cbx33> i know what you mean
[07:34] <cbx33> I'll work on it
[07:35] <PingunZ> Ok ;)
[07:35] <PingunZ> The last three tones are like the same ..
[07:35] <PingunZ> I'd change one of them into a feller tone :)
[09:08] <cbx33> hey fschoep
[09:08] <cbx33> just gonna rework the sound now
[09:09] <fschoep> cbx33: OK, great
[09:09] <fschoep> cbx33: remember, less is more :-)
[09:09] <cbx33> yup
[09:31] <nysosym> goood evening :)
[09:35] <nysosym> jippi, a new human icon package :D
[09:36] <PingunZ> What's new in it // downloading it too ;)
[09:37] <nysosym> my emblems :D
[09:37] <PingunZ> Oh :)
[09:37] <PingunZ> Nice .. they rock ! :)
[09:37] <PingunZ> The orange or colored ones ?
[09:38] <nysosym> the oranged, but a better consistent with human
[09:38] <nysosym> and thx :)
[09:38] <PingunZ> Orange ones I see :)
[09:38] <PingunZ> Well .. I preferred the colored ones but .. the orange ones still look great
[09:39] <nysosym> thx, a lot of bugfixing is in there ^^
[09:40] <PingunZ> fschoep: Got another job for me ? :)
[09:40] <fschoep> PingunZ: can you create wallpapers/
[09:41] <PingunZ> O_o
[09:41] <PingunZ> Well .. no :)
[09:41] <fschoep> PingunZ: like make some wavy lines
[09:41] <fschoep> OK
[09:41] <fschoep> PingunZ: you're the GDM guy right?
[09:41] <PingunZ> Honestly .. My skills are really bad :)
[09:41] <PingunZ> Yup .
[09:41] <fschoep> PingunZ: can you add PAM message support to all five GDM's we're shipping with Edgy?
[09:41] <fschoep> That includes Blubuntu
[09:42] <fschoep> I'll give you a pointer to what you need to do
[09:42] <PingunZ> Oki
[09:42] <PingunZ> When do I need to finish it ?
[09:42] <fschoep> PingunZ: yesterday?
[09:42] <nysosym> ^^
[09:42] <nysosym> lol
[09:42] <fschoep> PingunZ: no somewhere early next week is good
[09:43] <PingunZ> Oki :)
[09:43] <PingunZ> You mean pam-errors ?
[09:43] <fschoep> PingunZ: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edgy-gdm-themes/+bug/57588
[09:43] <PingunZ> Like caps lock or bad username ?
[09:43] <fschoep> Yep
[09:43] <fschoep> PingunZ: you know "apt-get source" right?
[09:44] <PingunZ> yes I do fschoep :)
[09:44] <fschoep> PingunZ: if you can create some patches against the right packages (edgy-gdm-themes) that'd be nice
[09:45] <PingunZ> So I apt-get source it .. midifie it .. and then I do what ?
[09:45] <PingunZ> *modifie
[09:45] <PingunZ> *modify :)
[09:45] <fschoep> first make a copy of the file you edit
[09:46] <fschoep> then later use "diff -c3 oldfile newfile > patchfile.txt" and send that to me or attach it to the bugreport
[09:46] <PingunZ> Oki :)
[09:47] <fschoep> you should also look in blubuntu-look tropic-look and peace-loog
[09:47] <fschoep> peace-look
[09:47] <PingunZ> the source packages ?
[09:48] <fschoep> yes
[09:48] <PingunZ> Hmm .. apt-cache search blubuntu-look -> None ..
[09:58] <PingunZ> fschoep: Human theme is done
[09:59] <fschoep> PingunZ: both GDMs?
[09:59] <PingunZ> Nowp :)
[09:59] <PingunZ> Just the first one .. needed to check if it worked .. :)
[09:59] <fschoep> Right, well good job already
[09:59] <fschoep> Can you add the patch to the bug report?
[10:02] <PingunZ> fschoep: Humancircle is done too :)
[10:02] <fschoep> PingunZ: right, thanks :0
[10:02] <fschoep> PingunZ: attached to bug report?
[10:04] <PingunZ> fschoep: I was busy making the patch file :)
[10:04] <PingunZ> Gimme a sec ;)
[10:05] <fschoep> OK
[10:05] <PingunZ> fschoep: How do I attach it ? just *attach file * ?
[10:06] <fschoep> PingunZ: at the bottom you can add comments and patchfiles
[10:06] <fschoep> Must be logged in
[10:06] <fschoep> Click "Add a comment/attachment"
[10:06] <PingunZ> Yup :)
[10:06] <fschoep> one file at a time
[10:06] <PingunZ> Found it ;)
[10:06] <PingunZ> Damn .. Should I put it in a tar ?
[10:09] <fschoep> No one patch file per comment
[10:09] <fschoep> just add multiple comments
[10:09] <PingunZ> Added ;)
[10:09] <PingunZ> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edgy-gdm-themes/+bug/57588
[10:09] <PingunZ> brb
[10:22] <PingunZ> fschoep: Tried ?
[10:22] <fschoep> PingunZ: in an audio meeting with cbx33 kinda busy now
[10:22] <PingunZ> Ok ;)
[10:22] <PingunZ> I'll watch some tv then. cya
[10:26] <fschoep> PingunZ: thanks already!
[10:26] <fschoep> PingunZ: thanks
[10:28] <PingunZ> No problem fschoep ;)
[10:31] <fschoep> PingunZ: can you do Blubuntu as well?
[10:31] <fschoep> PingunZ: looking good so far
[10:36] <cbx33> this audio meeting is very interesting ;)
[10:46] <nysosym> cbx33: why? :D
[10:46] <cbx33> hehehe
[10:46] <cbx33> cos I'm playing live to fschoep
[10:46] <cbx33> heheh
[10:47] <PingunZ> fschoep: Put in all in a mail .. I'm going to bed :)
[10:47] <PingunZ> night all
[10:47] <fschoep> PingunZ: ok g\night
[10:47] <fschoep> PingunZ: thanks
[10:47] <nysosym> gn8 my friend :)
[10:47] <PingunZ> ^^
[10:48] <nysosym> hmm with inkscape it's impossible to make smooth gradient on higher resolutions *fail*
[11:09] <nysosym> i will go to ed now
[11:09] <nysosym> good night all
[11:09] <nysosym> :)))
[11:09] <nysosym> i'll hope to see u all later ;)
[11:09] <BHSPitLappy> night
[11:13] <fschoep> Goodnight all