=== nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === dborg_ [n=daniel@e182052058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PseudoPlacebo [n=Placebo@user-0ceveat.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=Msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B162.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B162.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B162.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B162.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7B162.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:09] goood morning fschoep :) [09:09] Ni nysosym [09:09] Hi nysosym * [09:09] how are u? [09:10] nysosym: Got a cold, otherwise fine, you? [09:10] the same like u ;) [09:10] I'll make me some coffee now [09:11] nysosym: great, I'm the weekly dev meeting so I might reply a bit late everytime [09:12] absolute no problem :))) [09:25] what i ever wanna ask fschoep, is developing ubuntu your main job? [09:26] nysosym: kind of at the moment, yes [09:26] well paid? :D [09:26] nysosym: I can't comment on that one in public [09:26] ok i understand this :) [09:26] nysosym: OK [09:27] :) [09:27] well, the profits those shipit cd's bring in have to go somewhere [09:27] BHSPitLappy: right :) [09:27] ;) [09:27] so you're a Canonical dude or something? [09:28] I work for Wendy's... not quite as noble an endeavor [09:28] No I'm just a normal person working on Ubuntu but I'm being paid for it [09:28] ah. [09:28] wendys BHSPitLappy? [09:29] nysosym, it's a restaurant chain, like McDonald's, etc [09:29] but better food ;) [09:29] It's a bit of a coincidence I got this opportunity but I really like doing this [09:29] I've gotta get to bed, night night everyone [09:29] ahhh okay, i`m from german and never hear that name :D [09:29] yeah, lucky lucky fschoep [09:29] gn8 BHSPitLappy :) [09:29] BHSPitLappy: g'night [09:29] night [09:30] fschoep: a dev "only" for the art, or everything about ubuntu? [09:31] nysosym: my role is officially "Artist in Chief" so I'm on the artwork side mainly [09:31] But I don't mind fixing bugs in code or anything [09:32] ahh ok, i will go to do the same like u, in future :) [09:32] i love graphic design ^^ [09:32] nysosym: great, I hope you will be on the team for next release :) [09:32] :D sure [09:32] i will try m best [09:33] Good [09:33] Have you had a chance to get that mail priority emblem to work? [09:33] but at moment i do everything to find these (sorry) stupid icon.... [09:33] fschoep: nothing, sry :( [09:34] OK, no problem I'll look into it today [09:34] i have asked the gnome people, but they can't help me :( [09:34] fschoep: maybe a bug? :D [09:34] nysosym: could be, if I can't get it to work I'll seek out further advice [09:35] fine :) [09:36] thanks for all :) [09:37] for me it's a honesty that MY icons will be in the next ubuntu release :))) [09:37] brb :) === aboe [n=aboe@tb-c-76ec.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === aboe [n=aboe@tb-c-76ec.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Moving,] === aboe [n=aboe@tb-c-76ec.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BAEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:55] re :D [10:09] fschoep: how long is such a developer meeting? :) [10:09] nysosym: one to one-and-a-half hours [10:10] we're done now [10:10] any results? :) [10:10] nysosym: just the weekly status update and the fact that final artwork needs to go in this week [10:12] although many many many work... :-/ === akulah [n=akulah@86.34.246.232] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:17] I have a problem [10:17] akulah: shoot [10:17] the usplash in edgy don't show [10:18] akulah: I think that's a known issue [10:18] i created a new one [10:18] but still didn't work [10:18] akulah: I see [10:18] akulah: did you follow the Wiki HowTo? [10:19] partialy [10:19] OK, if you follow it completely step by step it might work? [10:19] no [10:20] it worked for dapper [10:20] but not for edgy [10:20] even the tools used are different [10:20] Right, I know of people who got it to work [10:21] I'm afraid I can't help you with it right now, maybe others can [10:21] tnx very much [10:22] I'll keep trying [10:22] :) [10:22] cheers! [10:22] akulah: i can help you get it fixed [10:22] /etc/usplash.conf [10:23] set it to 1024 and 768 respectedly..and then 'sudo update-initramfs -u' and then reboot..you should have a Usplash ;) [10:23] OK [10:23] if that don'e work...then the links between /etc/alternatives and /usr/lib/usplash are broken [10:23] I'm on it [10:24] hehe..i have done triage on this bug all week long..not really an artwork issue all that much as it is a bad usplash.conf or broken symlinks [10:24] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 2006-10-04 16:53 /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so [10:25] I've checked out the links [10:25] and are ok [10:25] ok..so they are good? [10:25] good deal.how about the usplash.conf? [10:26] i love the /cmd script with konversation...no more doing it in konsole then copy and pasting [10:26] thre usplash.conf has to be modified [10:26] here is mine [10:26] # Usplash configuration file [10:26] xres=1024 [10:26] yres=768 [10:27] mine: [10:27] # Usplash configuration file [10:27] xres=640 [10:27] yres=480 [10:27] the reason you may not have seen it, is because the monitor picked it up as "out of synch" [10:27] ya, set it like mine, then 'sudo update-initramfs -u' and reboot to see if that works [10:27] k [10:28] just done it [10:28] tnx [10:28] no problem ;) [10:28] I have to reboot [10:28] :) [10:28] yay [10:28] haha [10:28] o [10:28] just one question [10:28] shoot [10:29] do I have to set the vga in /boot/grub/menu.lst to 791? [10:29] no [10:29] ok [10:29] i never messed with it, and from what i have seen, those who have, had worse problems [10:29] ok [10:30] bye [10:30] ya, i just double checked, mine is commented out, so it doesn't do it [10:30] later [10:30] enjoy [10:30] and thanx again [10:30] np === akulah [n=akulah@86.34.246.232] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Huwshimi [n=huw@59.167.203.12] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:55] hi Huwshimi :)) [10:55] Hi nysosym === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:18] wb fschoep :) [11:18] nysosym: what's up? [11:18] nysosym: I got dropped since I closed my Macbook's lid :) [11:18] any steps forward with the icon? :D [11:19] nysosym: working on those still, doing lots of work in between, but getting there [11:19] are u the only one who works on the artwork? [11:19] mostly, yes [11:20] wow O.o [11:20] Well, I'm not the only one *doing* the artwork [11:21] But I am the one working on getting it in there [11:21] And making sure it works and it's good and all [11:21] sure, but although a huge mission [11:22] Yes, I'm glad you see that :) [11:23] good speed! ;) === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:31] hi andreasn :) [11:31] hi [11:33] how are u? [11:34] just fine === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:34] about to go to the bank and get myself some dollars [11:34] before leaving for boston tomorrow [11:34] what about you? [11:41] i'm fine too === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:42] Seveas: how are you doing? I've trying to contact you regarding the spotlight usplash. [11:42] I've been* [11:43] fschoep, just replied [11:43] Seveas: right, I'll e-mail it again [11:45] Seveas: attached and sent [11:48] fschoep: i`ve been a new step forward with the emblems, the "unread" icon in the sidebar works perfectly now :) [11:49] nysosym: any special trick? [11:49] no, just made a copy of "emblem-readonly.svg" and rename the copy to "emblem-nowrite.svg" :) [11:50] nysosym: right [11:50] you know that? :D [11:51] nysosym: now I know ;0 [11:51] nysosym: I'm cleaning up my Edgy to make sure the emblems work with a minimum of changes [11:51] :) [11:53] very strange, the "stock_mail-priority-high" icon is only available in "Human", "Tangerine", and "Tango" [11:58] fschoep, could you pint me to the background image for the spotlight theme [11:58] Seveas: sure [11:59] http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/final/png/usplash_rlsl_7_000.png [11:59] Can you use one of the static frame as a background? [11:59] frames* [11:59] I think you can fill up the rest of the screen with dark brown at the edges [12:00] Seveas: brb [12:00] fschoep: I HAVE THE ANSWER :DDD [12:01] "rename "emblem-stock_mail-priority-high.svg" to "stock_mail-priority-high.svg" [12:01] it works perfectly :) [12:02] nysosym: right, thanks - that solves all problems then? [12:02] Seveas: back [12:02] yes, all is solved :) [12:02] nysosym: one thing left [12:02] what? [12:02] nysosym: keeping the existing desktop emblem [12:02] nysosym: and having it in prerendered sizes [12:03] the emblems? [12:03] yes, the Human desktop emblem [12:04] hmm the ubuntu logo? *unsure* [12:04] nysosym: no, we have this teeny tiny desktop emblem [12:04] nysosym: it is normally on top of the desktop folder [12:04] yes [12:04] i have maked a new one *shame* [12:05] we need to find a way to keep that one while adding yours [12:05] nysosym: I know you made a new one, but I think we can't drop the existing one [12:05] nysosym: the current one needs to be in there because of the desktop-button in the lower left corner [12:06] but my new one is only in the Emblems, in menus are everything "old" [12:06] hmm [12:06] nysosym: that's the problem [12:06] nysosym: we need to keep the current desktop icon in the emblems for consistency [12:06] nysosym: the others can all be yours [12:06] although u need, the original for the "Desktop" folder in home? [12:06] nysosym: yes [12:06] ok [12:07] but i haven't a backup of my original human folder :/ [12:07] I think you could do a "sudo apt-get --reinstall install human-icon-theme" [12:07] ok mom :) [12:07] nysosym: make sure you have a backup though! [12:08] yes [12:09] personally i use my icon ^^ [12:09] looks much better in the home folder :D [12:10] nysosym: I see, but could you try keeping the original one? [12:10] sure! no problem :) [12:10] nysosym: keep in mind that Human contains prerendered version of that emblem so you might need to futz around with index.theme a bit [12:10] versions* [12:13] nysosym: brb, lunchtime :) [12:13] k have fun :) [12:13] thanks [12:27] hmm, imagemagick +map does NOT do what it's supposed to... === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:37] Frank been around yeT? [12:52] no [12:56] yes [12:56] he left not too long before you joined [12:59] brb === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BAEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:02] returned :) === nenotnom [n=christof@81-225-188-103-o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:04] hi nenotnom :) [01:13] nysosym: hey [01:14] how are u? :) [01:14] I'm fine, you? [01:14] fine too :) [01:14] any problems? :) [01:15] no art related problems [01:15] ok :) [01:17] dang it [01:17] well you guys are art....so http://www.progbox.co.uk/finals/RC/exportUB2.ogg [01:17] shorter startup sound [01:20] very very good :) [01:21] really? [01:21] is that your own creation? [01:21] I'm gonna do the shutdown tonight [01:21] yeh [01:21] I rerecorded it all last night with my nice new sound card [01:21] respect [01:21] which type of sound card one with asio support? :) === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:25] wb fschoep :) [01:25] nysosym: hi [01:25] nysosym: it wasn't a long lunch, I also did some other print work :) [01:26] you have 2 new mails, but please ignore the first one ^^ [01:26] nysosym: I saw them, yes [01:26] nysosym: did you manage to keep the original Human desktop emblem? [01:26] yes [01:26] all works like a sharm [01:26] nysosym: even prerendered? [01:26] fschoep http://www.progbox.co.uk/finals/RC/exportUB2.ogg [01:26] Hey cbx33 didn't see you get on, hi! [01:26] nysosym: it's a delta 1010 [01:26] hi [01:26] i gotta go teach my python class now [01:27] cbx33: MP3 please ;) ? [01:27] cbx33: on Mac [01:27] fschoep: yes even prerendered :d [01:27] :d [01:27] ^^ [01:27] I'll have to do that in a min ;) [01:27] I'll get it for you in about an hour ;) [01:27] nysosym: OK, thanks - I'll be going through it and I'll pass it to Daniel if it's looking good. [01:28] fschoep: no problem, i will thank u! :( [01:28] :) * [01:28] nysosym: I'm here if you find an error, otherwise I'll get in touch with you [01:28] fschoep, I am getting increasingly frustrated with both the gimp and imagemagick [01:28] nysosym: thanks for doing the additional debugging work ;) [01:28] they seem to ignore me [01:28] Seveas: I can understand, so can I help? [01:28] I am trying to make all images use the same palette [01:28] Right [01:28] but whatever I do, one image fails to use that palette [01:29] only one(!) [01:29] Always one [01:29] Only one [01:29] What are you trying exactly? [01:29] once that is done, the theme is finished [01:29] Seveas: ooh, shiny [01:29] Can I help you by making sure they all use the same palette? [01:30] it's the progressbar image that is now failing [01:31] Hmm. Can't you create a new one based on the new palette? [01:31] Or use a simple flat one? [01:31] I refuse to let some piece of software win ;) [01:31] Seveas: right :) [01:32] Seveas: I'd say go for the flat progress bar route if all else fails [01:32] Seveas: if I can help you by doing something with GIMP let me know, I'm here to help you out [01:37] fschoep: the network panel icon, is very stretched, a known bug, is that an artwork problem or a other? [01:37] (i know that bug from dapper) ^^ [01:37] nysosym: https://launchpad.net/bugs/57626 [01:38] nysosym: I patched is yesterday evening, fix is uploaded just now [01:38] it* [01:38] ahh okay :) [01:38] nysosym: enjoy [01:41] nice, thx :) [01:46] cbx33: any luck with the MP3? [01:48] the main server is sooo slow (11kbs).. *fail* [01:49] ok, so it looks like the palette is correct after all [01:50] but something in usplash is fucking up the pallette very, very bad [01:51] Seveas: oh dear, can you work around it? [01:51] no idea [01:52] Otherwise, trying a flat progress bar? [01:52] I'm all for a simple progress bar :) [01:53] brb *system is restarting* [01:53] actually, kamion broke it [01:53] while trying to 'fix' it for framebuffers [01:53] %#*&&@#!$@ [01:54] Seveas: he's probably in u-devel go ahead and take a trout ;) [01:54] great, we now have white progressbars and blue text *everywhere* === ppd [n=max@dslb-088-064-030-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:55] Seveas: sounds good for Kubuntu [01:55] no [01:55] the kubuntu theme also looks horrible [01:55] Seveas: sorry, I was just trying to make a joke [01:56] and it looks like mjg59 is the one who broke it === nysosym [n=nysosym@p54B7BAEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:56] Seveas: right, can I help you fix it somehow? [01:57] re [01:57] hi [01:57] ppd: welcome [01:57] hi ppd :) [02:00] nysosym: question [02:01] nysosym: why are all "large" directories missing from your index.theme? [02:01] hmmmmm sry, "code optimizing" [02:02] nysosym: OK [02:02] nysosym: are there any real differences between the old and new index.theme? [02:02] except for removing the large sizes? [02:02] fschoep, creating the theme properly is now blocked on usplash being broken, other than that it's finished [02:02] not really [02:02] Seveas: that's good and bad to hear [02:02] Seveas: must I contact Kamion or mjh59 to solve it? [02:03] Seveas: I'm not too sure about usplash internals so maybe you should contact them directly? [02:03] I poked mjg59 already [02:03] don't know who broke it [02:03] nysosym: OK, so it should work by just adding the SVGs now? [02:03] sure [02:03] i think so [02:03] Seveas: I'm not sure either but Kamion said something about usplash this morning in the dev meeting. [02:03] ok [02:04] Seveas: let me try to find it for you [02:04] "Kamion: usplash: tasksel enhancements to fix resolution detection on fresh d-i installs still needed." [02:04] Seveas: not sure if it's related [02:05] no [02:05] nysosym: OK great, saves me the trouble of checking index.theme :0 [02:05] :D [02:05] Seveas: OK, then I'm probably not going to be able to help you [02:08] fschoep: hmm when i reinstall the human package with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install human-icon-theme" the cursor theme isn't integrated in the Human folder [02:09] nysosym: maybe install human cursor theme? [02:09] just an idea? [02:09] sure mom [02:09] heyas fschoep [02:09] troy_s: howdy [02:10] troy_s: up early again eh? [02:10] indeed [02:10] troy_s: anything on your mind right now [02:10] fschoep: aahh okay, that works, but than you must remove the cursor folder, from my human package :D [02:10] nysosym: right, don't worry I'll make sure nothing bad happens! [02:11] nysosym: if something goes wrong I'll point all bug reporters to YOU :-) [02:11] j/k [02:11] fschoep, I may have found the bug [02:11] Seveas: can you explain it in understandable English? [02:12] no [02:12] fschoep: hehe okay :D [02:12] i will go to work now [02:12] I need to pinpoint it first ;) [02:12] good bye my friends :) [02:12] Seveas: OK I see [02:12] and happy designing ;) [02:12] nysosym: see you, thanks ! [02:12] otherwise I may say understandable rubbis [02:12] h [02:13] Seveas: right, if you need to vent anything I'm here - I can understand most technical gibberish [02:14] nvidia aquired by intel possibly eh? [02:14] troy_s: should be interesting [02:14] troy_s: with ATI now under AMD? [02:15] fschoep: do you still need an mp3 [02:15] cbx33: yes, please [02:15] ok [02:15] hang on [02:16] I'll mail it to you ok? [02:16] cbx33: yes, thanks [02:16] done [02:19] cbx33: I got it - do you have time later on to chat? [02:19] i have 10 mins now [02:19] and then possibly some more time in about an hour twenty or so [02:20] Right let's do this now, then? [02:20] sure [02:20] pm? [02:20] or here [02:20] PM's better [02:20] ok [02:36] Seveas: any luck yet? [02:37] fschoep, I filed it as bug 64171 [02:37] Seveas: OK, using Malone is probably the best way to go indeed [02:37] Seveas: did it change like one day ago? [02:37] no, but I didn't look at usplash for a few days === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:39] OK, but it shouldn't be changing radically this late in the cycle I think (got disconnect because the battery ran flat). [02:39] well, the change is a bugfix [02:40] but it caused this new bug [02:40] I see [02:40] and I have no experience whatsovere programming raw libsvga, so I'm at a loss [02:41] OK, maybe Keybuk can help if he's around and not too busy [02:44] no, only mjg59 is intimately familiar with that code === nenotnom [n=christof@81-225-188-103-o285.telia.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Ex-Chat"] === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === dborg [n=daniel@e182052058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:23] is frank around? === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@253.181-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:38]