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[01:29] <crimsun> BenC: pong
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[03:14] <BenC> crimsun: I have an odd problem on my laptop, hda_intel sound
[03:14] <BenC> crimsun: it doesn't play the login sounds (or any desktop sounds), but my vmware I have running can play sounds
[03:15] <mjg59> BenC: Sure you haven't just disabled system sounds?
[03:16] <crimsun> hmm, so at least "audible" is moot. Perhaps prior to executing vmware the mixer element(s) weren't adjusted. Is this symptom reproducible on a fresh login and/or boot?
[03:17] <BenC> nah, I checked there and tryed to play the sounds...nothing comes out
[03:17] <BenC> crimsun: Yeah, it's been like this for some time...I'm pretty sure it was working when I installed edgy using a daily from before beta
[03:17] <crimsun> ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' is completely silent?
[03:18] <crimsun> hmm, ok. Which codec does it use (from /proc/asound/card0/codec*)?
[03:18] <BenC> yep, silent
[03:18] <crimsun> if it's sigmatel, I have some stuff queued
[03:19] <BenC> Codec: Conexant ID 5047
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[03:19] <crimsun> ah crap, kernel freeze is tomorrow, eh?
[03:19] <BenC> yeah, but there may be exceptions
[03:19] <BenC> crimsun: FYI, it happens with the latest linux-2.6 git too
[03:23] <crimsun> BenC: please dump ``amixer'' output
[03:26] <BenC> http://pastebin.com/800418
[03:26] <crimsun> thanks
[03:26] <mjg59> BenC: Just as a sanity check - does cat /vmlinuz >/dev/dsp generate sound? :)
[03:27] <BenC> yep, lot of static :)
[03:28] <BenC> like I said, vmware+winxp has working sound
[03:28] <BenC> it's just alsa stuff
[03:28] <BenC> wonder if I switch to using OSS
[03:29] <crimsun> ah.
[03:29] <crimsun> does  amixer set 'PCM' 80%,on  help?
[03:30] <BenC> yep
[03:30] <crimsun> whew.
[03:31] <crimsun> I was about to say, sheesh, if alsa's oss emulation works...
[03:32] <BenC> so is that amixer thing permanent?
[03:32] <crimsun> once you ``sudo alsactl store'', yes
[03:33] <BenC> thanks
[03:33] <crimsun> np :)
[03:33] <BenC> I'll try a live cd and see if it's like that by default
[03:34] <zul> lost is like totally messed up
[03:34] <BenC> could be something I crapped up after install
[03:35] <gnomefreak> all kinds of errors with kernel update but they seem not to mean much
[03:36] <crimsun> BenC: alsa-utils's debian/init does unmute and set 'PCM' to 80% by default, so sounds should be audible by default OotB (live cd)
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[03:50] <BenC> mjg59: Someone reported a soft kernel lockup using latest edgy kernel, with out bcm43xx patches
[03:50] <BenC> bug 58638
[03:50] <BenC> near the bottom
[03:57] <mjg59> BenC: I don't think the soft lockup problem has anything to do with broadcom
[04:00] <kylem> i thought bcm4318 support was almost nonexistant (tx-power issues?) anyway?
[04:01] <mjg59> kylem: Works if you're close enough to the AP
[04:02] <mjg59> https://launchpad.net/bugs/57355
[04:02] <kylem> mjg59, yeah, i bought one to use at OLS due to the AP not liking my prism2.5 (for reasons that i don't understand0
[04:02] <mjg59> How do we phrase "You lose" without sounding like we hate him?
[04:04] <crimsun> "Due to intractable differences between..."
[04:04] <kylem> none of them have full dmesg which would be useful...
[04:05] <mjg59> Most of the soft lockup messages I've seen reported have seemed to happen around reiserfsck
[04:06] <crimsun> (speaking of which, I'm sure you've read Jeff Mahoney's comments regarding reiser3 ;)
[04:07] <mjg59> Yeah
[04:07] <mjg59> No surprise there
[04:08] <mjg59> It's basically unmaintained, and reiser4 isn't an acceptable substitute
[04:09] <kylem> mjg59, that guys /proc/interrupts is. funny
[04:09] <kylem> mjg59, what's the point of having two cpus if one of them isn't going to handle any interrupts. 8)
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[08:53] <tonfa> "If a string with the form |program is written to /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern, all core dumps will be piped to the given program instead of being written to disk."
[08:53] <tonfa> could that be used for apport ?
[08:53] <tonfa> instead of an external patch
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[08:54] <tonfa> (this feature will be available in 2.6.19 according to lwn.net)
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[11:37] <porkpie_> BenC:hi
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[02:48] <gnomefreak> did something change bewteen the -10-386 and the -10-generic that would cause nvidia to only work on one. (i have to reinstall the drivers for it to work on the other kernel)
[02:49] <gnomefreak> example right now nvidia-glx only works on -10-generic if i want it to work on the 386 i have to boot into it and reinstall the drivers but than it wont work on the -generic
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[03:58] <porkpie_> BenC:ping
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[04:30] <BenC> porkpie_: pong
[04:30] <BenC> porkpie_: building now
[04:33] <porkpie_> cool 
[04:33] <porkpie_> thanks
[04:34] <zul> hey BenC 
[04:47] <porkpie_> BenC:can i just drop the kernel into a directory from the ISO ....I have extracted the iso to a folder ...if the .deb has the same name can I just drop it in and then recreate the iso ?
[04:48] <BenC> porkpie_: it wont boot the ISO with that kernel in that manner
[04:48] <porkpie_> I will recreate the boot disk ...from the iso
[04:49] <BenC> it's the initrd that needs rebuilding
[04:49] <BenC> look under casper/ on the ISO
[04:50] <BenC> the vmlinuz and initrd need to be replaced/rebuilt...and then the CD remade so that it's still bootable
[04:52] <porkpie_> BenC:so if I edit these file with the correct entries then drop them into the correct place will that work ?
[04:53] <BenC> porkpie_: As I said, I'm not a CD expert...all of this is on the wiki somewhere
[04:53] <porkpie_> OK ....sorry
[04:53] <BenC> you'll get better answers about this stuff (after looking at the wiki) in #ubuntu
[05:00] <porkpie_> BenC:have we got to complie the Kernel ?
[05:00] <BenC> the kernel is compiling
[05:01] <porkpie_> Cool ..is that on a 64bit system
[05:02] <BenC> yes
[05:04] <porkpie_> BenC:what can I use to edit the vmlinuz file
[05:04] <BenC> cp?
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[07:50] <porkpie_> BenC:how's it going boss
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[08:20] <zul> yay i crashed the redhat installer
[08:22] <kylem> w00t.
[08:34] <porkpie_> BenC:ping
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[09:29] <porkpie_> BenC:are you about 
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[09:42] <fdoving> I experience the same as this guy, with current edgy, dapper worked fine: http://www.mail-archive.com/bcm43xx-dev%40lists.berlios.de/msg01959.html
[09:43] <fdoving> any plans on removing/adding anything to fixe issues like that? and will the prism2_usb module be included in edgy? 
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[10:48] <AnAnt> what's the difference between the -generic or -386 linux images ?
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[11:01] <porkpie_> BenC:Hello 
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[11:01] <porkpie_> BenC:Did the Kernel finish ??
[11:02] <BenC> porkpie_: Had a build failure, and restarted the build
[11:02] <BenC> hopefully be done in an hou
[11:02] <BenC> hour
[11:03] <porkpie_> BenC:sorry to hear that ....I hope it's not causing to many problems for you 
[11:03] <BenC> not really, it's building on a remote machine
[11:03] <BenC> brb, need to reboot
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[11:48] <tormod> BenC, do you have a prism2 device yourself to test with?