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anon32pike_, err...12:01
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anon32I have dialup so I don't want to remove anything I'll miss12:01
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fredrikhi can any one tell me if google mail will work with Evolution e-mail12:01
TokenbadTHX-1138, no...it was only 1 partition before...then wanted to add another from the free space on the one..12:01
TokenbadI have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is12:01
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blindTokenbad: the drive, or the partition?12:02
collier_kitche: can u help?12:02
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25695/12:02
anon32fredrik, yes, you need to enable pop3 in your gmail account though12:02
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Paddy_EIREis it possible for "firestarter" to start upon logging in minimised to the tray?12:02
ninja_monkeyhello people, I was in here not to long ago asking about issues with resolution. Problem was that I got a link to a FAQ page with resolution troubleshooting, but I can't find it on my own. Could you supply it again please? (I was on my win installation when I got the URL)12:02
ompaulTokenbad, what does sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd(a??)12:02
kitchecollier_: well I can try but it seems like you have to force rageircd to uninstall did you try the dpkg way o fremoving packages12:02
fredrikanon32, thanks12:02
anon32oh there we go, it was gnome-volume-properties12:03
THX-1138Yes, Then 30gigs was unavailable for a new format. - no warings about the number of promarary partitions?12:03
collier_kitche: nope how do you do that?12:03
ninja_monkeyresolution > ninja_monkey12:03
ninja_monkeydammit!12:03
blindlol ninja_monkey12:03
ninja_monkey:)12:03
Paddy_EIRE!resolution12:03
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:03
ompaul!msg the bot12:03
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:03
ninja_monkeyah, thanks.12:03
THX-1138Tokenbad - s/promarary/primary/g12:03
ClawfingerHello, does anybody know if it is possible to have two programs running that use audio and both of them playback?12:04
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kitchecollier_: man dpkg should tell you know to remove packages since I m not familiar with dpkg myself12:04
blind!tell Clawfinger about alsa12:04
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collier_dpkg -r|--remove | -P|--purge rangeircd12:05
collier_like that?12:05
swashbucklinstevladydoor: Very curiously, that also seems to fail. :-(12:05
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anon32Clawfinger, in Windows, that causes both to play audio half the time... dunno what ALSA will do though12:05
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Paddy_EIREIs it possible for "firestarter" to start upon logging in minimised to the tray?12:05
swashbucklinstevladydoor: if it helps any, I'm on AMD6412:05
kitcheyep that's it collier_ do a purge12:05
Rahsputin!dvb-t12:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:06
pike_Paddy_EIRE: you dont really need firestarter to run unless you need to change firewall rules12:06
collier_kitche: so i type dpkg -p rangeircd?12:06
Paddy_EIREpike_: oh12:06
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kitchecollier_: yep12:06
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Paddy_EIREpike_: i suppose its just a frontend silly question12:06
Rahsputinhi! is there a list on usb dvb-t devices for ubuntu ?12:06
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mrhello12:06
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anon32which you need to do if you want your IRC program to auth, if you run BT, etc..12:07
Rahsputinhello12:07
THX-1138Paddy_EIRE - you might add it to .gnomerc in your homedirectory.(surprised it doesn't already)  Unfortuneatly i haven't tried this.12:07
pike_Paddy_EIRE: sudo iptables -L will list the rules as long as you dont have inbound outbound and forward as just accept should be in good shape12:07
swashbucklinstevladydoor: Quite oddly, however, I am able to wget the files which apt-get fails to get12:07
collier_kitche: it does not remove it when I type that12:07
Paddy_EIRETHX-1138: what is "gnomerc" for anyway12:07
kitchecollier_: it just purges it try using apt-get now12:08
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TriGzMeow! hello guys :D12:08
TriGzt'has been a long time ;o12:08
collier_kitche: sudo apt-get rageircd12:08
THX-1138{Paddy_EIRE - .gnomerc will allow you to start applications on start up. see also .xinitrc12:08
Paddy_EIREk, thx12:08
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: that is odd. you might ask out loud if AMD64 need to use special repositories.12:08
kitchecollier-: sudo apt-get remove rageircd and see if it outputs the error12:09
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MissLadyanyone can help me please ?  I use Ubuntu and my cable modem don't work since installation.12:09
swashbucklinstevladydoor: I wondered about that too, google time. ty so far, if I get really stuck this will turn into a forum post.12:09
Paddy_EIRETHX-1138: is there anyway I can have the Gconfig-editor gui icon via apt-get12:09
pike_MissLady: you use a router or just direct to modem?12:09
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: good luck.12:09
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collier_kitche: what linux do u use?12:10
fredrikanon32, i get an error message saying it is not authenticated, any idear12:10
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MissLadypike_: direct to modem12:10
kitchecollier_: I run my own version of slackware12:10
pike_MissLady: same computer and network card as before?  just new operating system?12:10
THX-1138Paddy_EIRE - Have an icon for gconf-editor on your desktop? create a launcher by right clicking on the desktop.12:10
anon32fredrik, what was your question again? was it pop3 and gmail?12:10
rogelioHolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa12:10
MissLadypike_ yes12:10
mr_ewehi everyone, im really new to linux is there anyone that would chat with me for a while and help me figure some stuff out?12:10
Paddy_EIREk12:11
fredrikyes12:11
collier_kitche: oh. It still wont remove.12:11
fredrikand i enabled it in google12:11
rogelioalguien de Venezuela???12:11
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THX-1138!es12:11
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:11
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anon32fredrik, read gmail's faq about pop312:11
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pike_MissLady: ifconfig shows the ethernet device as eth0 and then a loopback lo ?12:11
collier_kitche: whats the sudo command to delete a folder?12:12
fredrikok12:12
anon32you need SSL for pop3 and TLS for smtp12:12
MissLadypike_: i'm connected with usb cable12:12
dagi3dhi12:12
TriGzDon't suppose anyone here plays WorldOfWarcraft on *nix do they? :o12:12
pike_MissLady: ah12:12
kitchecollier_: sudo rmdir <folder> be careful with that command12:12
dagi3dI have just upgraded to edgy and cannot login using gdm12:12
collier_sudo rmdir /etc/rageircd/12:12
THX-1138TriGz - It's you! - hunting for you all over Azeroth.12:12
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collier_kitche: sudo rmdir /etc/rageircd/ right? just to make sure12:12
dagi3dis this a reported bug? it's second computer where it happens12:12
pike_MissLady: as a rule usb doesnt offer as good performance anyway.  you have no ethernet cable?12:12
CaplainTriGz: #winehq12:12
BoyBlundercan anyone help me with a quick script to disable/enable XGL/compiz (nvidia)?12:13
kitchecollier_: yep but I would cd into /etc then do sudo rmdir rageircd to be safe12:13
ninja_monkeyHow can I check what driver my ubuntu amd64 installation uses?12:13
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pike_MissLady: you could try lsusb and make sure its showing up at least12:13
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MissLadypike_: i cannot use ethernet12:13
xopherninja_monkey, if you mean the gfxcard driver, check you xorg.conf12:13
collier_collier@collier-desktop:/etc$ sudo rmdir rageircd12:13
collier_rmdir: rageircd: Directory not empty12:13
THX-1138TriGz - WINE is good but can i win you over to the "dark side"? try Cedega.12:13
Dr_willisIve given up on cedega...12:14
Dr_willisand games in general. :)12:14
kromelMissLady, may I send you a private message?12:14
Rastagive up emulation12:14
whyameyewhen I first upgraded to Dapper from Breezy, ubuntu found a driver other than ndiswrapper for my broadcom BCM4306. Something went wrong with networking in general a few weeks later and in an effort to get up and running quickly I went back to ndiswrapper, which is as buggy as ever. How can I track back hour ubuntu got my broadcom going w/out ndiswrapper?12:14
Rastause a virtual machine12:14
pike_MissLady: i really dont have experience though with comp --> usb --> cablemodem though12:14
DivineAnt colier: use rm -r rmdir is only for empty directories12:15
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MissLadypike_: i installed usbnet module and when lsmod i see it12:15
collier_ok12:15
MissLadypike_: ok np :)12:15
Paddy_EIREWhich web site design program would you recommend for a newbie web designer using ubuntu12:15
whyameyePaddy_EIRE: nvu?12:15
cyberfallanyone know much about svn12:15
collier_rm: remove write-protected regular file `rageircd/rageircd.conf'? y12:16
collier_rm: cannot remove `rageircd/rageircd.conf': Permission denied12:16
SteilDoes setting a password on an ODT file just lock it, or does it encrypt it as well?12:16
pike_MissLady: get a 802.11 card and leech of your neighbors :)12:16
Flannelcyberfall: what do you need to know about svn?12:16
whyameyecyberfall: what do you need to know? It's called subversion in the repos...12:16
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cyberfalland sourceforge12:16
TriGzTHX-1138, hey again dude.. Yea i run it through wine.. BUT i cant loot mobs i kill.. or talk to any npc's... below everyone is like..  a black square.. and i just cant talk/loot :(12:16
MissLadykromel: if it'S about my problem with usb modem cable it's ok... if not ... no thx ;p12:16
Paddy_EIREwhyameye: I will get this and perhaps a second for opinions sake what else12:16
cyberfallwell  svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai ufoai it say it dont like the link12:16
anon32Paddy_EIRE, gedit12:16
MissLadypike_: isn't for that12:16
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Paddy_EIREanon32: someone that isnt really versed in raw html12:16
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POVaddctg'nite12:17
Tokenbadompaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25698/12:17
cyberfallsvn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai'12:17
swashbucklinstevladydoor: Apparently the main ubuntu repository should suffice, because it has all the arches respective packages listed in the same file (this file corresponds to a specific package like "mplayer" etc)12:17
MissLadypike_: my ethernet chips is dead12:17
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BoyBlundercan anyone help me with a quick script to disable/enable XGL/compiz (nvidia)? I'm trying to get WoW to work under Wine and it's telling me it can't start my 3d accelerator.12:17
TokenbadTHX-1138, I don't understand what that means12:17
Paddy_EIREIs "Quanta Plus" any good12:17
swashbucklinstevladydoor: so now I'm really confused, i guess it turns into a forum post now12:17
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: ah. then there's probably some weird networking thing going on.12:17
ninja_monkeyIf I want to change drivers (my ubuntu installation uses vesa drivers) to nvidia, what should I change the driver to?12:17
Flannelcyberfall: there's a few more directories under that, check it out in a webbrowser12:17
DivineAntcollier: you still need sudo - and a dangeruos side note wich can get you into a lot of trouble: rm -rf to get rid of "do you want to remove ..."12:17
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swashbucklinstevladydoor: indeed12:17
TokenbadI have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is  This is what fdisk -l /dev/hd12:17
Tokenbadd says:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25698/12:17
cyberfallumm how12:17
THX-1138TriGz - hm - could be a teeny-weeny problem eh? - grin.   Cedega is stable. run it with a low color depth and no "UI Scale" font corruption.12:18
Flannelcyberfall: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai in a web browser12:18
btdownHey could someone pastbin me their /etc/hosts file (or a good sample one) ? I hosed mine up12:18
cyberfalli try that earlyer and got an error12:19
cyberfallwtf12:19
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yellowhey guys, is there a way to open a terminal where you are while browsing file  ?12:19
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TriGzTHX-1138 - dont you have to pay for Cedega? :(12:19
Rahsputinis there a list on usb dvb-t devices for ubuntu ?12:19
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THX-1138Tokenbad - I can only guess you must already know. gparted was confused by file information in the ntfs partition due maybe file fragmentation. defrag and checkdisk with ntfs12:19
cyberfall svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/trunk/12:20
Rahsputini cannot get my fujitsu siemens usb dvb-t to run12:20
cyberfallsvn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/trunk'12:20
wwwdotcom-macHello, I am trying to install a missing plugin in firefox, how do I do this using the ubuntu linux?12:20
cyberfallwhy is it sayin that12:20
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necudecoholas12:20
ninja_monkeyIs there any help files regarding Ubuntu not detecting my graficsdrivers?12:20
Flannelyellow: yeah, there's even a package to add it... nautilus-open-terminal is the package name12:20
^Ocean^anyone have a dos 6.22 Boot disk image i can use to burn onto a CDrom12:20
THX-1138TrigGz - Yes, $5 a month. about the cost of a starbucks latte. I said darkside because i believe they have used technologies not in spirit with GNU.12:21
Dr_willis^Ocean^,  what are you trying to do?12:21
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Flannelcyberfall: you're missing a ufoai, there's two folders of it12:21
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yellowFlannel:  thanks man12:21
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cyberfallumm12:21
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Flannelcyberfall: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk/12:21
^Ocean^Dr_willis: get an old 486 running with now floppy drive lol... and im tryin to use k3b to burn the cd, but the bootdisk.img i found dont seem to be recconized as a proper boot image file...12:21
pestilencei thought i had setup a raid1 on my machine, but it seems one of the drives didn't get setup properly -- it is missing the raid superblock...does anyone know how i can add it (without destroying the data on the other drive)12:21
Rahsputinwwwdotcom-mac   synaptic --- mozilla plugin12:21
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TriGzTHX-1138 - isn't there like.. a free version but its not sa good or something12:22
Rahsputinsearch12:22
Dr_willis^Ocean^,  check out the freedos project12:22
Rahsputini would do it so12:22
THX-1138Tokenbad. It sucks. But your drive is okay.12:22
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Dr_willis^Ocean^,  of course it the thing wont boot off the cdrom.. well you may be stuck.. or do a network boot12:22
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wwwdotcom-macRahsputin, sorry, I do not know what that means12:22
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THX-1138TriGz - Yes, Compile from CVS source repository. - read mixed results on that. - 5 bucks is easier.12:23
^Ocean^no it boots off cdrom just fine ;) im sure of that12:23
Dr_willis^Ocean^,  put PUPPYLINUX on that thang!12:23
Dr_willis:P12:23
TriGzTHX-1138 - 5 bucks a month, + the 15 i pay for wow.. it all adds up :P12:23
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fredrikanon32, read it but could not figure out, keep n getting an error message and also prompt for a password12:23
necudecoalguien ha instaldo una hp proliant12:23
necudeco?12:23
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Paddy_EIREAnyone know of a good populated IRC chan/server that has an active web designers community possible for newbies also... #nvu is dead12:23
Flannel!es12:23
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:23
Rahsputinrun synaptic  and search for mozilla plugin12:23
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YonoDoes anyone know about setting up dual monitors with twinview?12:23
FlannelPaddy_EIRE: try #css or #html or #webdev (although #webdev is rather dead)12:23
Yonobecause I could use some help12:24
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wwwdotcom-macRahsputin, and how do I do that?12:24
Paddy_EIREk12:24
THX-1138TriGz - True enough +25 a month for Ubuntu. dunno. - I like the ease of use.12:24
gtlis there any channel for ubuntu x86_64 support?12:24
pike_Yono: fairly easy depending on card12:24
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Rahsputinopen terminal $ sudo synaptic12:24
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TokenbadTHX-1138, then why is it saying in gparted that my drive is only 47 gigs...when it should be 8012:24
pike_Yono: card?12:24
TriGzI prefer cost :P12:24
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FlannelRahsputin: that's asking for trouble.  gksudo synaptic12:24
TriGzTHX-1138 - How much knowledge would it require to compile from CVS?12:24
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Yonopike_: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]  (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )12:24
Rahsputinoh12:25
Rahsputingk is for ?12:25
Yonopike_:  both monitors work at bootup, but then mon #2 shuts off12:25
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FlannelRahsputin: gksudo is a graphical version of sudo (the one for gnome), it handles setting up the environment better for graphical programs12:25
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Yonopike_: I've been trying to mess with xorg.conf to no avail12:26
anon32TriGz, you just need the right dependencies and the right tools12:26
THX-1138Tokenbad - The descriptor table was written back wrong. - You can remove a partition and format it ntfs then use checkdisk and defrag to gather things closer together. nothing will be caught at disk edge12:26
pike_Yono: is one mon a lcd or older crt?12:26
TriGzanon32 - How hard is that? :P12:26
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Yonopike_: yes, the CRT functions, the FPD shuts off12:26
pike_Yono: i can paste an old config file of mine thats worked on solaris and linux..12:26
anon32TriGz, not hard... but time consuming12:27
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Yonopike_: that would be great12:27
StargazersHi. I am trying to compile "Bless Hex Editor" but it always says that I have no mono installed when I run ./configure -script. When I try to apt-get install mono, it says that it is installed? What is wrong?12:27
THX-1138anon32 - Absolutely. - I occasionally eat at 7-11 it's all about convenience.12:27
StargazersWhat package I need to compile it :S12:27
FlannelStargazers: build-essential12:27
FlannelStargazers: oh, wait.  nevermind.12:27
TriGzI'm going to hop onto ubuntu. brb :)12:27
StargazersOk.12:27
FlannelStargazers: well, you'll still need that package, if you don't already.12:28
StargazersWhat package?12:28
Stargazersmono?12:28
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StargazersI have it.12:28
anon32Stargazers, add more repositiories12:28
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anon32mono is a .NET interpreter for Linux12:28
StargazersWell... I am not sure what version I need or do I have all needed packages, propably not.12:28
StargazersBut I have no idea what I should install.12:28
StargazersI don't just want to install 500MB of packages just for hex editor...12:29
Stargazers:P12:29
pike_Yono: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25700/12:29
Yonopike_: thanks, I'll go check it out12:29
sax0n_m0f0rsomebody knows some project that has supported chipset DSC-350F(DLINK) that it is not the project spca5xx that only supports chipset DSC-350(DLINK) alguem knows of some alternative project?12:29
mjrStargazers, you probably need at least mono-devel12:30
StargazersLet me see.12:30
anon32Stargazers, lol12:30
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StargazersIt is already newest version.12:30
FlannelStargazers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MonoDevelopmentHowto  has some good links12:30
StargazersWhen I try to install it with apt-get.12:30
StargazersOh, have to look.12:30
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StargazersLet me see...12:31
StargazersBtw, what hexeditor you use in normal usage, or do you use any of them?12:31
Rahsputinis there a way to use a Fujitsu Siemens USB DVB-T antenna  ( dvb-t mobile tv tuner )   IMC Networks12:31
FlannelStargazers: There are a few in the repositories12:31
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StargazersWell, what you personally use? :)12:31
TriGzand he's back :)12:31
sax0n_m0f0rsomebody knows some project that has supported chipset DSC-350F(DLINK) that it is not the project spca5xx that only supports chipset DSC-350(DLINK) alguem knows of some alternative project?12:32
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sax0n_m0f0rhey ?12:32
cyberfall_got to love the power company12:32
cyberfall_sometime i wonder if they pay there own eletric bill12:32
wwwdotcom-macFlannel, I have low ram, so I need to use just the terminal12:33
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blindCan I takke advantage of the Windows Messenging service via ubuntu?12:33
Dr_williscyberfall,  they manage to lose their own bills12:33
pike_Yono: see 25701 for the one im using now12:33
Flannelblind: GAIM can do MSN messenger12:33
blindFlannel: not MSN.12:33
blindFlannel: the messenging service.12:33
Flannelblind: Windows Messenger is MSN Messenger12:33
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blindFlannel: no.12:33
foo_bar_foo-)12:34
kitcheFlannel: he means the service not the Messenger12:34
blindFlannel: you're thinking of something different :] 12:34
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Flannelblind: samba can do that12:34
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Yonopike_: ok I'm gonna go restart X11, thanks for your help12:34
blindAlright, cool.12:34
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ciphernemoWhat's the best way to get the latest nVidia drivers for dapper?12:35
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Flannel!tell ciphernemo about nvidia12:35
cyberfall_anyways back to my problem i was having with svn12:35
cyberfall_svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk'12:35
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StargazersWell, I installed those packages, but same problem.12:36
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StargazersWait I paste it on pastebin.12:36
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TriGzAnd i'm back :d12:36
cyberfall_is there something about svn that not liking the link12:36
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StargazersPastebin seems to be slooooooow.12:37
theguyhow do i change myself to be the owner?12:37
theguyi cant write files to certain folders12:37
theguyand im lost12:37
Flanneltheguy: which folders?12:37
theguycodecs12:37
collier_Hello, Why doesnt linux reconize my creative zen?12:37
TriGz!zen12:38
Tokenbadthere is no way to save my data on this drive is there?12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
TriGz!creative12:38
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about creative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
Flanneltheguy: usually you use sudo to copy the codecs there, instead of changing the owner of things12:38
theguyhow i do dat..im new to linux12:38
StargazersARGH PASTEBIN lags.12:39
Flanneltheguy: if you were using the cp command to copy stuff, you'd use "sudo cp [yadda yadda] " instead12:39
blindStargazers: using pastebin.com ?12:39
Stargazershttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25702/12:39
collier_Why doesnt linux reconize my creative zen?12:39
Stargazersblind: I tried it first :D. That was the laggy one.12:39
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Stargazers:)12:39
StargazersThen I saw that in topic there is other one.12:40
blindStargazers: yeah, i was gonna suggest the ubuntu one :] 12:40
StargazersYep, my fault. Sorry 'bout that.12:40
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StargazersBut anyway, that is what that says.12:40
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TriGz!rar12:40
zenitcollier_: recognize like a normal drive? That's what you mean?12:40
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free12:40
collier_zenit: yeah like a usb drive12:40
TriGz!info unrar-free12:40
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB12:40
Rahsputinanybody know where to get the dvb package12:41
Rahsputin!dvb12:41
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
zenitcollier_: because zen is difficult this way. You need to set aside some space on the drive for the hd-functionality first12:41
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blind!msg the bot12:41
zenitcollier_: don't remember on top of my head, check the manual12:41
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:41
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cyberfall_Flannel, hey12:42
Flannelcyberfall_: what command are you giving exactly?  that url works fine for me12:42
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cyberfall_ svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk/12:42
TriGzohmygod! why cant i unrar a file using unrar-free? :(12:42
TriGz!rar TriGz12:42
uboturar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)12:43
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Flannelcyberfall_: no trailing slash12:43
nblithello all12:43
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nblitneed assistance with wifi on Thinkpad x3112:44
Dr_willisunrar e whatever.rar (or is it x)12:44
nblitcan anyone assist?12:44
cyberfall_svn, version 1.1.4 (r13838)12:44
cyberfall_   compiled Sep 24 2006, 11:15:1512:44
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cyberfall_ svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk12:44
cyberfall_svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk'12:44
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XiXaQHow is Ubuntu with laptops and dockingstations?12:45
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nblitplz raise your voice if you can assist, i am a newbie and would like to get my wifi working on my laptop12:45
deltabTokenbad: how was the disk set up before this happened?12:45
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deltabnblit: what assitance do you need?12:45
deltab^assistance12:45
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Flannelcyberfall_: the only thing I can think of is that your subversion doesn't understand https12:46
nblitdeltav>>i have a thinkpad x31 with aironet 350 minipci12:46
cyberfall_how is that when that what ubuntu package manager installed it12:46
cyberfall_is there a diffrent version of it12:46
nblitdeltab>> it works fine if i disable the encryption on my AP but if i use WEP encryption it does not get ip address12:46
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Flannelcyberfall_: what version of ubuntu are you using?12:47
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deltabnblit: can you use other encryption? WPA, iirc12:47
nex_howdy howdy12:47
cyberfall_umm about maybe month old12:47
cyberfall_6.06 ls12:48
cyberfall_6.06 lts12:48
g333k_worka fast downloads manager?12:48
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zenitnblit: and you are 100% sure that the key entered is correct?12:48
nblitdeltb: my router supports it but i was not able to connect, tried to use wiki to enable wpa for laptop, didnt work ;-(12:48
g333k_workI'm using 6.10 :p12:48
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Flannelcyberfall_: that's not possible.  the subversion in the repositories is 1.3, not 1.112:48
g333k_workits wonderful but the synaptic is slow12:48
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g333k_worka fast downloads manager?12:49
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nblitdeltab: my router is wrt54gs v5.0 with dd-wrt12:49
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nblitzenit completley sure12:49
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cyberfall_Flannel, ok let me go beat my head against a wall12:50
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zenitnblit: oki, and your adapter support 128bit wep?12:50
zenits12:50
cyberfall_not sure i may of compiled that one and i grab a old copy12:50
Flannelcyberfall_: svn --version gives you 1.1?12:50
nblitzenit: actually i am using 64bit12:50
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zenitnblit: ah, oki. Then that's ruled out.12:51
nblitand the card supports it, it is a cisco/aironet 350 minipci12:51
zenitok12:51
Tokenbaddeltab, as just a single partition of 80 gigs12:51
Tokenbador whatever it is after they use the default space for whatever12:51
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cyberfall_Flannel,  how do i uninstall a compiled copy12:52
nblitguys i am going to tey WPA in a different way, i might return12:52
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Flannelcyberfall_: by deleting all the files that were installed12:53
cyberfall_oh ya that easys12:53
hollaback83how do i get root privliges????????12:53
Flannelhollaback83: sudo12:53
deltabTokenbad: Windows or Linux?12:53
cyberfall_and how do i get a list of that12:53
Flannelcyberfall_: that's why people use package managers ;)12:53
cyberfall_hehe12:53
hollaback83sudo??12:53
Flannelhollaback83: yes12:53
hollaback83wut is sudo12:53
cyberfall_well i figure the package manager would of fixed it12:54
Flannel!tell hollaback83 about sudo12:54
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Flannelcyberfall_: the make file, if you still have it, might have a make uninstall, or make clean12:54
vdepizzolcan anyone confirm this on gnome 2.16? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35972612:54
deltabhttp://xkcd.com/c149.html12:55
TriGzCan anyone help me with Unrar-free? I use the command.. unrar-free -x -p filename /home/useraccount/Desktop - But i don't get anything after it says it as extracted everything OK :|12:55
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Flannelvdepizzol: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support12:55
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vdepizzolFlannel, thank's12:56
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o0vapermonkey0ohi all is there any way to get more speed out of my gateway p4 1.512:56
deltabTriGz: -p for password?12:56
ScipioAfricanusoverclock?12:56
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TriGzdeltab, yes.12:57
o0vapermonkey0oor a program to do it12:57
deltabo0vapermonkey0o: what kind of speed?12:57
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Paddy_EIREhas anyone managed to crack using a Sony MiniDisc Player with linux yet....all I can find is some guy on sourceforge thats made a gui for it yet no driver he intends for someon to write there own!12:57
ScipioAfricanusbut most of the big comp. makers lock down clock speeds12:57
o0vapermonkey0owell i am playing wow and it is cinda choppy and i thaught if i used some of my harddrive space it will run better12:58
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o0vapermonkey0ojust want to boost my pc a little12:58
cyberfall_Flannel,  i found it but no make uninstall12:58
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: hmm, you could optimize Ubuntu to boot and shutdown faster, also turn off anything you don't need. Did you install the i686 kernel and modules, that will improve speed somewhat.12:58
cyberfall_and make clean didnt work12:58
TriGzo0vapermonkey0o - Mind if i ask what your using to run wow? (Wine, Cedega) ?12:59
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: Also if you have plenty of RAM you could turn off your swap space which could give you a speed boost.12:59
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Tokenbaddeltab, the extention I had was ext312:59
o0vapermonkey0ohow do i find out what one i installed i68612:59
kromelo0vapermonkey0o, my friend's WoW was choppy yesterday morning.  I found a fix for him, let me see if I can find it.  It may work for you too.12:59
Tokenbadbut now that one info says there is some kind of windows partition12:59
o0vapermonkey0owine12:59
TriGzo0vapermonkey0o - Do you have a problem where you see black squares under Mobs and NPC's? and you cant interact with them? :P01:00
kromeloh, nevermind, he was using Cedega.01:00
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o0vapermonkey0ono just the doors to bld r ripped01:00
TriGzhmm01:00
amicrawlehow do i update just 1 pkg  i want01:00
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TriGzi'm trying to un-rar cedega so i can install with that and try again, see if it sorts the black squares out ^^01:01
nex_what game are you getting black squares on?01:01
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eXistenZTriGz, Isn't cedega commercial?01:01
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TriGznex_ - I'm getting black squares on World Of Warcraft01:02
TriGzeXistenZ - yes it is. ;o01:02
deltabTokenbad: so you had one ext3 partition, and wanted to make it into two?01:02
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cpk2doesnt the wiki have a howto of wow&wine?01:02
o0vapermonkey0ohow do i turn off my swap space i have less than a gig of ram01:02
kitcheo0vapermonkey0o: if you have less then a gig of ram then swap space is good01:03
^Ocean^To get an old doss 6.22 to reconize a burned CD do i have to burn it in any special modE?   Becuase i burnt a cd this computer see's the contents fine.   but the dos 6.22 computer  will read the root of the CD but wont go into any sub directory on it.. says file not found01:03
ferossamicrawle: if you 'apt-get install pkgname' it will tell you if it's the latest one. If it's not in the listed repos you can download it and 'dpkg -i pkgname.deb'01:03
kromelTriGz, this guide worked great for me and my friend.  http://spherenet.spherevision.org/dokuwiki/howtos:wowoncedega01:03
TriGzkromel - I'm actually having trouble's installing cedega :P01:03
o0vapermonkey0oi have look all over the net cant find any thing usefull to me the game works great but it could be better01:03
kromelTriGz, oh...01:04
o0vapermonkey0owould more swap space be better01:04
TriGzkromel - Well.. Unrar'ing the pre-compiled CVS version my friend done for me xD01:04
Tokenbaddeltab, yes....I tried to use gparted...and it froze...when rebooted....it now says the drive is 47 gigs...with 15 gigs free...so am missing like 30 gigs01:04
o0vapermonkey0oi have a 300 gig harddrive01:04
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amicrawlei did but the website sayes the dapper ver is very old01:04
puffMy drive is full, are there any good tools/utilities for figuring out what's taking up all the space?01:05
deltabpuff: du, tkdu01:05
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: well you can test it, just run 'swapoff'. Then use 'top' to see how you're doing on memory.01:05
gtlhow can I setup flashplayer on ubuntu x86_64?01:05
amicrawlepuff try your temp file01:05
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puffI was just thinking that it might make a nice little project for learning ruby.01:05
mjrgtl, not trivially01:05
TriGzCan anyone help me with un-rar'ing with unrar-free? :O01:05
kromelTriGz, ahh, to help clean up this chat, mind if I send you a private message?01:05
gtlmjr: meaning?01:05
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amicrawletrigz i can01:06
deltabo0vapermonkey0o: I suggest you add a system monitor applet, and set it to display ram and swap01:06
ladydoordoes anybody either know a) how to take a square root in bc, or b) a good console-based calculator program01:06
ladydoor?01:06
amicrawletrigz i can  pm me and i will help01:06
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mjrgtl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava01:06
o0vapermonkey0owhat is that called01:06
Arrickhey guys, I am in class, and not near my ubuntu computer, can someone give me the terminal command for dropping to root?01:07
gtlmjr: thx!01:07
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: more swap does not equal better performance. About twice your RAM of swap is fine.01:07
amicrawlei got flash9 to work01:07
Arrickby the way good evening01:07
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deltabladydoor: sqrt(49)01:07
ferossArrick: sudo su -01:07
ladydoordeltab: thank you!01:07
Arrickthanks01:07
kitcheArrick: su - you don't even need to sudo it seems01:07
o0vapermonkey0oSwap:  1887596k total,    40632k used,  1846964k free,   182928k cached01:07
TriGzkromel - feel free to PM me01:08
amicrawle<o0vapermonkey0o>  try in the shell  df -h01:08
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deltabkitche: su will ask for the target user's password when not run by root01:08
TriGzamicrawle - i can't PM you.. I havn't registered yet xD01:08
amicrawlethat will tell you megabites and gigabites01:08
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o0vapermonkey0owhat i am cins noob01:08
amicrawlehow do i reg TriGz01:08
o0vapermonkey0ocinda*01:08
TriGzamicrawle - try and PM someone, it will give you a link. im going to do it now ^^01:09
Arrickthanks kitche01:09
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kitchedeltab: correct but I know people that used su - on ubuntu but then agian it was back in 5.x series01:09
deltabo0vapermonkey0o: you have plenty of swap (nearly 2 Gb) and are barely using it01:09
amicrawlepeople how do i reg my user name01:10
o0vapermonkey0oso my swap is fine01:10
deltabamicrawle: /msg nickserv help register01:10
kitcheamicrawle: /quote nickserv help register never do /msg01:10
TriGzamicrawle - I'm going to pm you with the command you need to do.01:10
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cyberfall_umm ok01:10
kitchesince nickserv might not be who you think it is it happened on here before01:10
cyberfall_apt-get install svn dont work01:10
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puffamicrawle: You mean /tmp?  Already checked... also /var/tmp.01:11
deltabcyberfall_: subversion01:11
cyberfall_i installed that in the package manager01:11
cyberfall_and reinstalled it01:11
puffdeltab: Yeah, du is what I usually use, I was hoping for something a bit moreintelligent.01:11
cyberfall_and no work01:11
deltabpuff: tkdu01:11
puffdeltab: Actually, I'm thinking of building a little utility to do what I normally do with du when I'm trying to free up disk space.01:11
cyberfall_i deleted the svn files that showed in a command whereis svn01:11
ladydoordeltab: do you know how to get it to display more decimal places?01:11
deltabpuff: what's that?01:11
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o0vapermonkey0oy does it say 2users feross01:12
ferosspuff: uhm  did you 'apt-get clean' and 'apt-get autoclean'?01:12
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puffdeltab:  Usually I start with something like  "du -sk ~/* | sort -n", followed by "sudo du -sk /home/* | sort -n", if it's a shared box.01:12
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pufffeross: Good idea.01:12
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deltabladydoor: scale=1001:13
ladydoordeltab: thanks01:13
Tokenbaddeltab, did you see my responce?01:13
Adamif I run uname -r I get 2.6.12-10-386. Should this 386 actually be 686? I am a bit confused why it says 386 why I would expect 686.01:13
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ladydoordeltab: thanks muchly, actually!01:13
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: if you're in a terminal as root it will show that as another user.01:13
cyberfall_686 i think is for pentium pro01:13
deltabTokenbad: yeah01:13
cyberfall_not sure if that still true01:13
pufffeross: unfortunately, that didn't make any difference.  Hm.01:14
o0vapermonkey0ook so there is no program to make it runn better01:14
cyberfall_i386 is just i think normal x86 code based01:14
amicrawle<o0vapermonkey0o  what are you trying to do01:14
ferosscyberfall_: I'm sorry to correct you but i386 is for everything p2 and older.. P3 and newer should use i68601:15
deltabTokenbad: do you know what gparted done done when it crashed?01:15
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deltab^had done01:15
puffIRRC JGoodies had a neat little java tool for doing osm eo fhtis.01:15
o0vapermonkey0otrying to play wow at top speed but i only have a p4 1.5 with 786 ram01:15
Adamso 386 is wrong if I am running an inter pentium 640 3 gig processor?01:15
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amicrawlerelly01:15
o0vapermonkey0oya01:15
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Tokenbaddeltab, it was resizing the partition to use free space of it to make another partition01:15
amicrawlei play wow on a x86 800mhz01:15
amicrawlewith 512mb or ram01:16
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o0vapermonkey0oit plays but not verry good the doors r riped and cinda laggy01:16
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deltabTokenbad: are all the files okay?01:16
amicrawlehumm01:16
mjrAdam, it's not wrong as such, though slightly suboptimal01:16
ferossAdam: if you have a P3 you should change the default to i686. Ubuntu installs i386 just to make sure it will work for most PC's.01:16
amicrawledid you try xwine01:16
amicrawleor wine01:16
o0vapermonkey0ojust wine01:16
Adamso how do I change it?01:17
amicrawledid you all so try transgaimg01:17
cyberfall_feross,  no problems01:17
DeraminHow do I manually install the JDK from the .bin or -rpm.bin off sun's site?01:17
o0vapermonkey0ono01:17
sethkDeramin, chmod +x whatever.bin     then    ./whatever.bin01:17
amicrawleyou might find it very useful01:17
cyberfall_i just kinda remember back in the day when i686 start showin up when the pentium pro was out01:17
sethkDeramin, as root01:17
Tokenbaddeltab, the files are there...but the freespace was going to use as another partition is gone01:17
o0vapermonkey0owebpage01:17
cyberfall_and i was getting brave to try linux on a k601:17
amicrawlei use transgaming01:18
cyberfall_and about cooked it01:18
amicrawlewww.transgaming.com01:18
cyberfall_back when red hat was gpl01:18
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ferossAdam: do 'apt-get install kernel-image-i686' or something like that .. lemme look it up.01:18
Deraminsethk: ah, the root part may have been what was bunging me up. How do I run something at root, again?01:18
Tokenbado0vapermonkey0o, have you tried the new crossover?  it supports wow01:18
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deltabTokenbad: your partition table isn't accurately describing the layout of your disk01:18
o0vapermonkey0ona just wine01:19
Tokenbaddeltab, I figured that...but how fix it...without losing data01:19
deltabTokenbad: find out where the current partitions actually are01:19
Tokenbado0vapermonkey0o, they have a trial version you can test...01:19
cyberfall_apt-get install subervsion say it installed01:19
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cyberfall_but i use svn and notta01:19
Tokenbaddeltab, ummm...ok...how?01:19
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o0vapermonkey0oit plays sound is choppy and doors are ripped01:20
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Deramin~How do I run something *as* root01:20
deltabTokenbad: maybe your files are spread out across the disk, but some of them are outside the partition and can't be accessed01:20
sethkDeramin, either use sudo, or use su.01:20
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stodgeAnyone know how to change the resolution of the login screen (gdm?)?01:20
Adamrun something as root use sudo01:20
Deraminsethk: ah. thanks.01:20
deltabTokenbad: maybe they were all packed into the smaller space now covered by the first partition01:20
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deltabTokenbad: which of those is the case?01:21
Gk-s2-hello01:22
Tokenbadall the files are within the 47 gig part01:22
Gk-s2-someone can help me?01:22
Tokenbaddeltab, all the files are within the 47 gig part01:22
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deltabTokenbad: you've checked that?01:22
Adamthere is no package kernel-image-i68601:22
Tokenbadwell if I mount hdd1 which is only 47 gigs...the files are there....01:23
sethkstodge, gdm uses the highest defined resolution01:23
deltabTokenbad: was 47 gig the size you chose?01:23
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deltabTokenbad: *all* of the files?01:23
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stodgeIt does? Oh that's a pain :P01:23
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stodgeOk I'll reconfigure X then - thanks01:23
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jmerlinanyone here an expert with printers? :>01:23
deltabTokenbad: how have you checked?01:24
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Tokenbaddeltab, let me explain this again...I had 80 gig drive...which had like 45 gigs use...I tried to use 20 gigs of the free space on that drive to make another partition...when gparted froze...and I rebooted...the drive said it was actually full...75 of 80 gigs used...01:24
o0vapermonkey0ocant i get Cedega for free01:24
stodgeCedega is commercial01:24
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Tokenbaddeltab, I then ran fsck on it...and that then made it say 47 gigs with 15 gigs free of that01:25
o0vapermonkey0ois there a way around it01:25
deltabTokenbad: because it hadn't changed the partition table yet01:25
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Tokenbaddeltab, cause I erased some movies off...01:25
stodgeNo idea01:25
Tokenbaddeltab, thats why it now says 15 gigs free..01:25
stodgeIt's cheap - buy it01:25
o0vapermonkey0oi am poor01:25
romans5n1I was just looking at both the ubuntu and kubuntu distros... i noticed that kubuntu dvd distro is both a live and install cd... is this true for the ubuntu dvd distro as well?01:25
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deltabTokenbad: when?01:25
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nblitdeltab: I'm back, i tried WPA according to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo and still does not work01:27
stopgoIf I'm on a 686 kernel and I download the 386 image through my Package Updater (or whatever the gui auto-update frontend is called in English), it'll replace my current 686 kernel, right? Same with the modules for 386?01:27
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o0vapermonkey0oit is 55$ a year01:27
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stodgeThat's cheap01:27
sethkromans5n1, for the latest release, yes01:27
cafuegostopgo: no01:27
nblitdeltab: i think the WPA_SUPPLICANT is looking for the wrong device01:27
sethkromans5n1, for the previous release (both ubuntu and kubuntu) they were separate CDs01:27
deltabnblit: why do you think that?01:28
sethkromans5n1, there is still a separate alternate CD01:28
stopgocafuego: oh. what's it do with the stuff it downloads then?01:28
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MrFeetiohi01:28
sethkromans5n1, well, not "still", exactly, there is a separate alternate install cd that is similar to the install cd of the previous version01:28
Tokenbaddeltab, after gparted froze and rebooted and it said the drive was full I tried to clean some of it off...01:28
Adamok so how do I update from 386 to 686? use Package linux-image-2.6.15-23-686?01:28
sethkromans5n1, but the desktop options install was moved to the live cd01:28
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nblitdeltab: oh wait01:28
romans5n1cool... from what I've read and seen, I'm 99% sure it's going to be one of the two for me, so it comes down to which desktop I like best ;)... though from screenshots, I'm already leaning toward ubuntu01:28
Tokenbaddeltab, but then still was missing space...01:28
jmerlinanyone here an expert with printers? :>01:28
nbliti think i put the wrong card Duuuuuuuuuh01:29
MrFeetio!beryl01:29
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.01:29
jmerlini need help getting my lexmark to print and some help with pharos01:29
codezeroSeveas, i realized that the problem was because of a bug in fglrx driver...actually it is properly installed as described on the wiki. but the problem is about libGL.so.2 and I should have changed it to solve the problem...I didnt like the solution so I gave up...because ldconfig would probably change the symlinks to the libraries and the problem will arise another time. so I wait for an update on the repository for a new fglrx driver but it seems ther01:29
codezeroe hasnt been any updates recently...bad for ati and ubuntu users01:29
cafuegostopgo: It will keep the existing 686 one, but depending on the version number it might start to boot the newer 386 one by default. If it's just a seciroty fix, nothing will happen.01:29
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romans5n1sethk: yeah, there's CDs and one DVD... take your pick01:29
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Shadow_milHow do I tell gnome to use samba for smb:// address?01:29
sethkromans5n1, so the answer to your original question is, I guess, that the live cd is the install cd only for the desktop install flavor01:30
cyberfall_i think i broken my linux box01:30
constantine-xvidoes anyone know the GPL reasonably well?01:30
cafuegoAdam: No, 'sudo apt-get install linux-686' -> that fetches the latest one (2.6.15.-27)01:30
sethkcyberfall_, is it burning?01:30
cyberfall_it will be01:30
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romans5n1okay... well, thanks for the info... I was pretty sure it was the same, but just wanted to satisfy my curiousity01:30
sethkconstantine-xvi, depends on what you mean by reasonably, I guess.01:30
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sethkcyberfall_, put that flame thrower down NOW01:30
deltabTokenbad: when did it say the drive was full? when trying to add a partition?01:30
cyberfall_hehe01:30
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nblitdeltab: what dows this mean? ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM] : Bad address01:31
stopgocafuego: oh. i just have to make sure i'm still using the right image after the update then. easy enough. thanks :)01:31
jmerlinDOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PHAROS PRINT STATION + LINUX ?01:31
cafuegostopgo: Yeh, just check the listing in grub01:31
constantine-xvisethk: if you're using GPL stuff in software you never plan on releasing, do you have to release it anyway?01:31
deltabnblit: I guess it's something not supported01:31
Tokenbaddeltab, no...after gparted froze...and I rebooted...01:31
nbliti get this once i run the WPA_SUPPLICANT as follows: sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf airo -w01:32
constantine-xvias in: internal company sw01:32
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jeff_When I read an email in Thunderbird, it disappears after switching folders. After looking, I can't find anything that is set wrong. Anyone have any ideas where to look?01:32
sethkconstantine-xvi, "plan" doesn't matter.  If you ever release it, then you become bound by the provisions relating to released software.01:32
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sethkconstantine-xvi, until then, no, there is no obligation01:32
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constantine-xviexactly what i needed to know01:32
cyberfall_/usr/bin# ./svn01:32
cyberfall_./svn: symbol lookup error: ./svn: undefined symbol: svn_ra_initialize01:32
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sethkcyberfall_, mixed up shared library versions01:33
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mjr(Actually, that's not entirely true. They either abide by the provisions or are guilty of copyright infringement, which is a different matter, but off-topic anyway.)01:33
Borathey, does anyone know how to run in root so i can copy paste files/folders wherever i want?01:33
sethkcyberfall_, how did you get to that point?01:33
cyberfall_umm ok out of the million which one is it hehe01:33
knut_need help by configuring opera 9 for my 64bit system01:33
deltabTokenbad: so that what happened?01:33
cyberfall_oh easy01:33
knut_dont know how to run the 32bit one01:33
sethkmjr, right; the question was about when the provisions go into effect.01:33
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sethkmjr, not specifically what you might be guilty of  :)01:33
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cyberfall_not use the package mannager and compile and install an old version of subversion01:33
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TomChireBorat, sudo nautilus01:34
mjrsethk, I suppose I was trying to read the meaning too strictly :] 01:34
BoratTomChire i <3 you01:34
sethkcyberfall_, that will do it, I guess.01:34
ninja_monkeyAre there any tips on how to setup a laptop-touchpad?01:34
TomChireBorat, i likey you too01:34
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nblitdeltab: i am getting Failed to set encryption when testing the WPA01:34
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ninja_monkeyIt currently bugs me very nice :|01:34
Jebhiya all01:34
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sethkninja_monkey, there is some documentation in the kernel source tree about setting up touchpads.  Also you can find info on the xorg site.01:35
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ninja_monkeyfanx.01:35
jmerlinDOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PHAROS PRINT STATION + LINUX ?  PLEASE PM ME OR ANSWER WITH MY NAME SO I CAN SEE THE MESSAGE HIGHLIGHTED01:35
Tokenbaddeltab, well after gparted froze and it started saying the drive was full...I tried to fix it with fsck....which it did partly...and then I have been trying to figure out where the other 30 gigs went to01:35
jeff_!caps01:35
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:35
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JebJoyacan anyone give me any advice on installing ubuntu on a slightly low spec system?01:36
deltabTokenbad: gparted froze and started saying the drive was full?01:36
ladydoorJebJoya: install xubuntu?01:36
sethkJebJoya, do the oem install, and then install a low overhead desktop01:36
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nblit<<Can anyone assist with a Thinkpad x31 wifi problem?  PLZ PM ME>>>>01:37
sethkJebJoya, xubuntu basically does that using I think xfce01:37
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nblit<<Can anyone assist with a Thinkpad x31 wifi problem?  PLZ PM ME>>>>01:37
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deltabnblit: you could try another channel with people who know more about wifi. unfortunately I don't know of any01:37
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nblitdeltab: thx01:38
JebJoyamy issue is not being able to run the install program - i was thinking xubuntu, but i noticed the alternate ubuntu cd says it's for installing on less than 192Mb of RAM (the laptop i'm using has 256Mb RAM, but 64 goes to graphics :( )01:38
kitchenblit: ipw2200 chipset01:38
sethkJebJoya, go with text mode only, then01:38
nblitkitchie: No it airo01:38
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sethkJebJoya, at least to begin with01:38
^Ocean^To make a dos 6.22 readable cdrom, do i have to burn it in any fancy way?  Becuase if i just burn it normaly, it see's everything on the CDrom but cannot access it.  like if i do cd dir i get Invalid Directory01:38
sethkJebJoya, use the text mode install on the alternate cd01:38
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nblitkitchie: my wifi card is Cisco/Aironet 350 MiniPCI01:39
chupacabrais there a list of ubuntu packages?  I cannot find mc.01:39
JebJoyaokay, that's cool :)  i was hoping there was something like that on the alternate cd - it's dlaoding atm :)01:39
sethkJebJoya, "text mode" on the alternate cd refers to the fact that the install program is text mode, not that the install itself will be text mode.01:39
ofer0chupacabra, find mc where?01:39
rahmielI'm having some difficulty going through the process of installing and enabling the nvidia drivers. I can install the nvidia-glx, but when I do a nvidia-glx-config, the script fails to run.01:39
sethkJebJoya, so you have to select an install option set that doesn't include a desktop.01:39
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chupacabrain the online packages.01:39
ofer0chupacabra, you can "apt-cache search mc", but it'll give you plenty of results.01:39
dean_can anyone direct me to documentation or help with a problem getting Glade to work on Dapper, the program cannot find required libraries, even though they are installed01:39
ofer0apt-cache search midnight commander, maybe.01:40
sethkchupacabra, you mean the program mc?01:40
chupacabracool01:40
chupacabraya01:40
JebJoyai think the pc should cope with it when it's installed, it's the livecd it's having issues with - it's not that low spec :)01:40
JebJoya(touch wood ;) )01:40
deltabmc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager01:40
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ofer0dean_, libs such as...?01:40
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chupacabrayes01:40
sethkchupacabra, package name is mc01:40
ofer0aptitude install it then..01:40
sethkchupacabra, so   sudo apt-get install mc01:40
JebJoyathanks a lot for the help all :)01:40
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dean_libgnomeui, libgnomecanvas et al01:40
chupacabrai'll try again.  whoot01:40
AsadRhow do i install the manpages for function calls like socket(), gethostbyname(), etc. ?01:40
SpaceFrogHow can i change a directory's permissions so that cron can write to it?01:40
sethkchupacabra, if you don't find it, your repository list needs work01:40
dean_gtk201:41
ofer0SpaceFrog, what is the currently dir permissions ?01:41
sethkSpaceFrog, you change a directory permission with chmod.  to change a directory including all it's files, you use chmod -R01:41
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rahmielThis happens after doing a nvidia-glx-config: Error: your X configuration has been altered. This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section from nv to nvidia. Running the command causes my 01:41
chupacabraahhhahhh  got it thanks01:41
sethkSpaceFrog, however, you can't say what permissions for a cron job because in general a cron job may run as a variety of users.01:41
JebJoyaoh, also, anyone know what exactly i should look for to get LaTeX when I've installed ubuntu?01:41
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JebJoya(if anyone knows LaTeX, which isn't necessarily that likely... :) )01:42
ofer0sethk, that's only debian cronjobs01:42
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ofer0sethk, on other distros the cronjob is limited to root only01:42
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sethkofer0, no, that's not true.  you can easily modify the default cron operating parameters01:42
SpaceFrogHowever, I'll be copying my configuration to a Debian server01:42
MrFeetio!beryl01:42
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.01:42
TomChireIs there a way to adjust volume of xmms via commandline?01:42
yellowhey guys how can i change my firefox user agent in ubuntu ?01:42
kitcheofer0: cron can run as any user01:42
AsadRwhat package contains the manpages for all the system calls and socket api calls, and the other libc functions?01:43
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ofer0kitche, on which distro? :)01:43
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JebJoyano LaTeX users? ah well, i'm sure I'll work it out :)01:43
kitcheofer0: all of the distros01:43
sethkofer0, on all distros.  cron does not change from distro to distro01:43
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ofer0sethk, it is.01:43
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yellowJebJoya:  i'm a latex user01:43
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sethkJebJoya, I use it, but I've not installed it with the package manager01:43
damonkeybonjour tout le monde :)01:43
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ofer0for example, in the distro I use, I don't even have a crontab.01:43
JebJoyai presume it's available through the package manager?01:43
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stodge"*** Warning: X development files not found." - anyone know what packages contain X development files?01:44
sethkJebJoya, I'm not sure, I'll check01:44
JebJoyathanks :)01:44
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ofer0stodge, the packages that ends with -dev01:44
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qatsiwhy could GRUB se my SATA disk as (2,3) when its (0,3) ??? now every time i boot, i need to edit the file...(im going to edit it now so i dont have to) but i still wonder why is that ?01:44
stodgeWhich one01:44
Deraminsethk: what if the chmod doesn't work? I don't get an error, it just does nothing01:44
stodgeThere are several01:44
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kitcheofer0: probably the distro doesn't have crontab installed01:44
Tokenbaddeltab, once it froze and I rebooted yes01:44
sethkJebJoya, yes.  search for packages starting with tetex-01:45
kitcheqatsi: edit the file when you get booted then save it01:45
ofer0kitche, crontab is a package for debian01:45
ferossAdam: ah, sorry had to step away, father-in-law on phone.01:45
ferossAdam: but I see you got it.01:45
qatsikitche: yes, im going to do that, but why did it detected the disk incorrectly ?01:45
JebJoyai guessed it would be tetex, thanks for the help sethx :)01:45
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sethkofer0, the fact that a package named crontab exists for debian does not imply that you cannot install a package that installs a crontab on other distros.01:45
deltabTokenbad: what did you do after rebooting?01:46
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ofer0kitche, please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab01:46
sethkofer0, do you think the other distros say "hey, I won't allow that, because somewhere there is a package called crontab"?01:46
kitcheofer0: on other distros the package is just called cron01:46
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rahmielAnyone a nvidia user or know how to troubleshoot the nvidia-glx-config not working correctly?01:46
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vdepizzolwhen I try to use festival, I get "Can't open /dev/dsp", How I know the program is using it?01:46
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kitcheofer0: I use fcron myself it's easier to use01:46
sethkofer0, crontab can be installed with the package manager, or outside the package manager.01:46
sethkofer0, the package manager does not limit what you can or cannot install01:46
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deltabvdepizzol: fuser /dev/dsp01:47
deltabvdepizzol: fuser /dev/dsp | xargs ps01:47
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jester45would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c?01:47
sethkofer0, all of my ubuntu systems have a crontab.01:47
Tokenbadjust started gparted...then saw that...so tried to remove some stuff to get some space...now it says 55 gigs is used and 16 gigs is free...even though before I tried to partition...there was only 45 gigs used...and I removed prob 10 gigs of that when I deleted those movies01:47
Tokenbaddeltab, just started gparted...then saw that...so tried to remove some stuff to get some space...now it says 55 gigs is used and 16 gigs is free...even though before I tried to partition...there was only 45 gigs used...and I removed prob 10 gigs of that when I deleted those movies01:47
ofer0sethk, what you are saying has nothing to do with my claim, so let's leave it alone for now01:47
beunodoes anyone know if I need 2 DNS to resolve a domain or I can use just 1?01:47
ofer0beuno, which domain is taht?01:47
JebJoyanow, more importantly, how long til Lost is on? ;)01:47
deltabwhat says that?01:47
ofer0beuno, that*01:47
vdepizzoldeltab, and how can I exit it?01:48
ofer0JebJoya, 2-5 hours01:48
sethkbeuno, to act as the DNS for a domain, you need a primary and secondary DNS server.01:48
beunoofer0, Ive got a bind server installed, ANY domain01:48
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ofer0sethk, not on all TLDs01:48
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beunosethk, can one network card have 2 IPs?01:48
sethkbeuno, you need two.01:48
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deltabvdepizzol: exit what?01:48
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gu014hello, i am trying to install apache 2 and phpmyadmin..both are installed but when i try to click 'phpmyadmin' at local host from firefox it attempts to download some .phtml file? can anyone help me out with this problem?>01:48
sethkbeuno, one network card can have 1000 IPs, but that's cheating.01:48
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darkanyelhi01:49
jester45would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c?01:49
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berentsethk: how01:49
sethkberent, how what?01:49
dean_anyone know anything about Glade?01:49
beunosethk, the situation is I have 1 nic on the server, how can I asign it 2 IPs?01:49
jmerlinnobody here knows how to configure printers on ubuntu.. nice..01:49
ofer0sethk, some of them, can work with one. some of them can work with 2, but on the same IP. some of them (such as .com, .net, etc..) can only work with 2 IPs.01:49
darkanyelhow can i use thunar as default????01:49
berentsethk:how can one card have 1000ips at the same time01:49
sethkbeuno, you can install an alias for a card as follows:01:49
ofer0beuno, did you pay for additional IPs ?01:49
beunoofer0, yes I did01:50
vdepizzoldeltab, the program is using /dev/dsp01:50
beunoI've got one of them working01:50
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ofer0beuno, you have to create a virtual interface named eth0:1 ( for example ) and assign the next IP to it.01:50
sethkbeuno, you use the notation:   eth#:#         as in:   eth0:101:50
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godtvisk1ncan anyone suggest some good dvd ripping software?01:50
jester45acidrip01:50
Vornotrondd01:51
Vornotron:P01:51
oxyridehehe01:51
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ofer0beuno, for example: ifconfig eth0:1 ip.ip.ip.ip up01:51
beunoso to make it eth2, I would have to do eth0:2, right?01:51
sethkbeuno, so you can do   ifconfig eth0:1  ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###01:51
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ANTDx1Hello everyone.01:51
oxyridehello01:52
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sethkbeuno, and that adds another IP address for eth001:52
ofer0beuno, then you use BIND9 to create the DNS entries for it. first the SOA for the domain and then something like "ns1.yourdomain.com. IN A ip1.ip1.ip1.ip1" and "ns2.yourdomain.com. IN A ip2.ip2.ip2.ip2"01:52
ANTDx1Could someone please help walk me through the process to set up my broadcom 4318 wireless card in Ubuntu 6.06 with amd-6401:52
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Tokenbaddeltab, so somewhere it is saying some of the space is used even though its not...01:52
ANTDx1I tried using some instructions on the forum, and ended up being unable to boot, which is bad.01:52
ofer0beuno, please allow some time for name servers to sync. if you got MX records too, it can take days.01:52
ANTDx1ndiswrapper kept halting the boot process01:53
jester45would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c i realy need it to work i have a project due and no way to print it01:53
beunosethk, it adds the IP to eth0, but I reference it as eth2, right?01:53
berentsethk:so both eth0 and eth1 have same ip01:53
deltabbeuno: the alias can be a name; it doesn't have to be a number01:53
sethkbeuno, no, eth0:201:53
sethkberent, in my example, eth0 and eth0:1 have different IPs01:53
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sethkberent, nothing in my example is about any pair of anything having the same IP01:54
beunosethk, that's exactly what I need, 2 different IPs01:54
deltabor eth0:external, or whatever01:54
darkanyelhow can i use thunar as default and not nautilus????01:54
beunothis is in /etc/network/interfaces we're talking about, right?01:54
sethkbeuno, right, so both  eth0   and eth0:1   are the eth0 device, but the IPs are different01:54
sethkbeuno, I'm talking about how you actually run the ifconfig command01:54
sethkbeuno, how that translates to the configuration file I would have to check.01:54
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sethkbeuno, I don't bother with that, I just add ifconfig's to the end of rc.local01:55
beunowhat about adding it to interfaces so it's there permanenlty?01:55
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berentsethk : so both eth0 eth1 will get consecutive ips01:55
beunooh01:55
sethkbeuno, you can do that, I just have to check the syntax01:55
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Tokenbaddeltab, this is what cfdisk says: hdd1         Boot         Primary    Linux ext3                          77778.2501:55
Tokenbad    hdd5                      Logical    Linux ReiserFS                       2245.5101:55
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oxyride???01:55
sethkberent, the IPs don't have to be consecutive.  just two arbitrary IPs, totally unrelated to each other01:55
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ferossjester45: tried hplip?01:55
sethkTokenbad, ah, you've run into the reiserfs bug that everyone yells at me for talking about.01:56
beunosethk, would you be so kind?  for cleanness sake01:56
sethkbeuno, I'll look at it, yes.01:56
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berentsethk : if u do ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### then u speify one ip where is the other01:56
highneko!compiz01:56
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:56
deltabTokenbad: you said "it is saying"  what is saying that?01:56
chrometigercan someone help me mount my cdrom "well make sure it isn't already working" and make it so its mounted at boot ?01:56
jester45feross: i will try it01:56
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kitcheberent: you will ifconfig eth0:2 for another ip or eth0:001:57
sethkberent, you do:    ifconfig eth0 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###    then, you do   ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###01:57
Tokenbadsethk, well don't know about that...but the drive says basicly that it is has 55 gigs used..when it should only be like 35 gigs used...01:57
sethkberent, two separate commands01:57
berentsethk : thanks01:57
sethkberent, each assigns an IP to eth001:57
SuperQanyone know where mkinird find the list of modules to include?01:57
ofer0chrometiger, yes, I can help you. Please paste the output of "cat /etc/fstab", "cat /etc/mtab", "mount -l" in pastebin.ca.01:57
Tokenbaddeltab, gparted01:57
sethkTokenbad, definitely bad news.01:57
sethkTokenbad, back up anything important immediately01:57
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berentsethk : can both of them communicate .will they have different macs or some virtual setting01:58
chrometiger/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:58
sethkberent, same MAC01:58
chrometigerline for cdrom01:58
sethkberent, remember, at the network layer IP addresses are not used01:58
sethkberent, both IP addresses map to the same MAC, since they are the same card.01:59
sethkberent, to make an interface have more than one MAC, you have to modify the device driver01:59
chrometigeris it already mnt'ed01:59
ferosssethk: hey, you're talking on how to set IP's to the nic but then on reboot it will loose those settings. It can be put into /etc/network/interfaces so that it's there as default if I'm not mistaken.01:59
deltabchrometiger: the  user,noauto  make it not happen at boot, but allows you to mount it as an ordinary user01:59
sethkfeross, yes, of course01:59
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beunofeross, he did say he added the line in rc.local01:59
deltabchrometiger: run mount or df to see if it's mounted01:59
sethkfeross, however, that isn't how I do it01:59
berentsethk : so if u ping ips u will get a dup ack for sure01:59
sethkberent, nope02:00
sethkberent, try it.02:00
oxyridelol02:00
sethkberent, why would you get a dup ack?02:00
jester45feross: i searched for hplib and i seen none in the repo should it be in the repo02:00
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chrometigerdoing mount doesn't look like it02:00
berentsethk: won't it refer same mac02:00
sethkberent, sure, so what?02:00
ferossjester45: it's in your System>admin02:00
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sethkberent, ping just says "IP ##### please respond"02:00
sethkberent, and IP ##### does.02:01
deltabchrometiger: mount /dev/hdc  or  mount /media/cdrom0  will mount it now02:01
sethkberent, you will get the MAC address more than once in the ARP table, but that doesn't hurt anything.02:01
berentsethk : yeah thats true02:01
chrometigerno medium found02:01
jester45feross: o im in xubuntu no body in that channle could help me02:01
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JebJoyafinal question - how easy is it to go from ubuntu to xubuntu once installed (i presume it's doable in-OS?)02:02
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ferosssethk: hmm ok if it's in the rc.local I guess it will work but IMHO putting it in interfaces works better in case you need to netoworking restart *shrug* also just seems cleaner.02:02
DShepherdhello :-)(02:02
nblitQ: how do i disable a driver from loading02:03
deltabchrometiger: if you have a disc in, of course!02:03
nblit?02:03
ferossjester45: oh, hmm ok wait a sec02:03
DShepherdhow do i reformat a usb disk to a vfat partition?02:03
sethkfeross, perhaps.  I prefer methods that aren't distro specific.  If I want to restart the interface, I just use the ifconfig command.  I'm not saying my way is better, just that it works.02:03
jester45feross: sorry for not telling you i was hopeing that iwouldnt need it02:03
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chrometigergot it, um ok so can i make this auto mount or do i have to type that everytime i stick another cd in ?02:03
deltabDShepherd: what is it currently?02:03
nblitQ: how do i disable a driver from loading??02:03
RopechoborraHow do i change the permissions to a directory and all the files in it?02:04
deltabchrometiger: yes, edit /etc/fstab and change noauto to auto02:04
DShepherddeltab: not sure.. i think its ext302:04
ofer0DShepherd, mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda02:04
chrometigerthank u02:04
deltabchrometiger: oh, you mean something else02:04
nblitRopechoborra open a terminal and type man chmod02:04
DShepherdofer0: thanks02:04
ferossjester45: /usr/bin/hp-toolbox  try that02:04
ofer0Ropechoborra, chmod -R XXX dir/02:04
deltabchrometiger: so don't do that, unless you want to mount on boot02:04
ZarephathAnyone know of a free dynamic dns service that will allow a record to be added for ftp? US only please...I currently use zoneedit..but I can only run mx and A02:04
ofer0Ropechoborra, XXX = your permissions. for example: 75502:04
RopechoborraThanks02:04
DShepherdofer0: its not wise to do this as root if I want other users to use this right?02:05
sethknblit, remove it's driver from /lib/modules/xxxxxx     :)02:05
chrometigerwill that hurt anything ?02:05
ofer0DShepherd, it doesn't matter. it will matter when you'll want to mount it.02:05
ferosssethk: sure :) I can see your point.02:05
sethkDShepherd, it's not wise to use numbers instead of symbols.02:05
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qatsiok, i really need help wetting up my network card...can anyone help me ?02:06
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deltabZarephath: you need an A record02:06
ferossZarephath: what deltab said... beat me to it :P02:06
ofer0Zarephath, zonedit, xname02:06
cgeI am trying to test some headphones, and I would like to be able to play a sine wave at different frequencies. Does anyone know an easy way to do this?02:06
ofer0Zarephath, oh, didn't see there's another line.02:06
Zarephathdeltab: yeah but their web interface doesn't allow me to add an entry for ftp vs...www02:06
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nblitsethk, r u sure?02:07
ofer0Zarephath, check xname.org, check the option of running your own DNS server.02:07
qatsianyone here uses an  Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT Network card??02:07
ninja_monkeySo, there no chance for me with an x64 ubuntu to view flash?02:08
beunosethk, I went through the man interfaces(5) and google, and I still can't find anything,  any luck?02:08
Zarephathofer0: Kewl thanks...will do appreciate the info all!02:08
sethknblit, I'm sure that will work.  I'm not saying it's the right way to do it.02:08
DShepherdofer0: how can i give the disk the name?02:08
deltabZarephath: what are you trying to do?02:08
ofer0ninja_monkey, you can run 32bit firefox inside a 32bit chroot() jail.02:08
DShepherds/the/name/02:08
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DShepherderr02:08
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nblitsethk, i would prefer doing it the right way02:08
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DShepherdI meant 'a' ofer002:08
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ofer0DShepherd, I don't understand what you mean02:08
jester45feross: i see no hp-toolbox02:08
ninja_monkeyofer0: okey, sounds advanced :)02:09
sethkbeuno, did you try adding an entry exactly like all the others, but using the eth#:# notation?  there is no need for anything in the man page for interfaces to change02:09
xenoNfluXthis may or may not have much to do with Shoutcast specifically.... how might I go about having the Shoutcast server run in the background, or even at boot? (currently I have to do ./sc_serv to run it, and it doesnt drop me back at a bash prompt)02:09
oiadhi, im trying to compile pyxfce, but get this when doing make http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/NRdXqP48.html02:09
sethkbeuno, all you are doing is using a different interface name.02:09
oldskool3I'm loading from ubuntu cd, X64.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens.. is it because I have ATi?02:09
nblitok02:09
ofer0ninja_monkey, not at all. use debootstrap to create the chroot. then chroot into it, and install firefox. run it from there. that's all.02:09
nblitttl02:09
beunosethk, no, I'm a bit afraid I loose remote connection to the datacenter and I can't access the server again  ;D02:09
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jrib!info  python-xfce02:09
ubotuPackage python-xfce does not exist in any distro I know02:09
deltabsethk: note the alias doesn't have to be a number, as you're implying02:09
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sethkdeltab, I didn't imply anything02:10
DShepherdofer0: by defualt when formatting the disk it is called 'usbdisk'.02:10
deltabseemed to be implying02:10
DShepherdofer0: is there a way to specify a name02:10
ferossjester45: install hplip02:10
sethkdeltab, although, I admit, I can't see any reason for using anything other than a number, but if you like using something else, have fun02:10
oiadjrib thats why im trying to compile it?02:10
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media_Is there an X command to get the current resolution?  I need to get those values so I can force firefox to start full screen regardless what resolution I may have started up as (for a media system)02:10
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ninja_monkeyofer0: Right, before I do anything I feel I have to read some before I do anything. What's debootstrap?02:10
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ofer0ninja_monkey, it is used to download a debian system into a chrootable directory02:11
jester45feross: i dont see it in the repos do i have to get it from the web?02:11
feross!hpliy02:11
deltabsethk: doing so might lessen the confusion between eth0:1 and eth102:11
sethkdeltab, eth0, eth1, etc., don't have to be numbers either, but you to keep oneself sane ...02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hpliy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
jriboiad: yes, I know :)  It showed up in edgy though so I thought it would probably be there in dapper.  Can you translate your error to english?02:11
beunosethk, how does this look to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25706/02:11
sethkdeltab, I'm not confused, but ok.  :)02:11
feross!hplip02:11
ubotuhplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB02:11
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sethkdeltab, that's a point02:11
oiadah sorry02:11
deltabsethk: not you02:11
ofer0DShepherd, not that I know of. I'm not a graphics designer, I'm a system adminstrator and programmer. I don't care how the disk is called.02:11
sethkdeltab, yes, I know what you meant.  I hadn't thought about it, but I don't disagree with you.02:12
DShepherdofer0: ok kool02:12
jester45i will check again02:12
DShepherdofer0: thanks anyways.. lata man02:12
ofer0DShepherd, cya around02:12
ferossjester45: hmm looks like it's in main should be there02:12
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deltabI think it's possible to add multiple addresses to one interface too02:12
sethkbeuno, I'd leave out the network, broadcast, gateway, and dns part02:12
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xenoNfluXhow might I go about having a server application run in the background or run at boot?02:12
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sethkdeltab, I don't see how.  if it is possible, it would be a very bad idea to do so.02:13
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jester45xenoNfluX: what kind of sever app02:13
sethkbeuno, you don't need routing for machines on the same subnet, and it would be unusual to need routing for an alias.02:13
oldskool3I'm loading from ubuntu cd, X64.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens. Is it because I have ATi?02:13
acehello can someone help explain to me how to exit the menu that shows up when my comptuer boots up? (I guess the grub menu?)02:13
aceedit*02:13
xenoNfluXjester45, Shoutcast02:13
jribace: /boot/grub/menu.lst02:13
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sethkbeuno, I'd make eth0:1 have only the address and netmask parameters02:13
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acejrib: thanks02:13
ofer0ace, what do you mean by "exit the menu"? if you exit the menu you won't have an O.S. running02:14
ninja_monkeyIs there a way to disable the "tap to click"-feature on the touchpad?02:14
beunoand on the first line, where I set auto lo eth0 eth1 eth202:14
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DShepherdexirt02:14
jester45xenoNfluX: i dont know about that i think there is a setting to auto load programs at system start02:14
DShepherdexit02:14
beunoI should set eth0:1, right?02:14
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acejrib: it said permissin benied02:14
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acedenied*02:14
xenoNfluXjester45, I know how to configure and run it... I'm just wondering if I can run it in the background and at startup02:14
jribace: use a text-editor and sudo to edit it02:14
xenoNfluXhm02:14
jribubotu: tell ace about sudo02:14
jribace: what do you want to do exactly?02:15
deltabsethk: ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev lo02:15
xenoNfluXI'll see if I can dig up info on setting cronjobs on boot02:15
acejrib: I want to take away one of the options when I updated ubuntu it added another ubuntu02:15
aceJrib: like one for the old ubuntu and one for the updated ubuntu02:15
ofer0xenoNfluX, yes. TIMTOWTDI. anyway, you can symlink it to /etc/rc2.d/S99something02:15
oiadjrib http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/LysqpD35.html02:15
sethkdeltab, I would have to see what ifconfig command you are really talking about.  I don't wade through the macros to see what that actuallyl does.02:15
sethkdeltab, however, as I said, if it is possible, it is an extremely bad idea.02:15
oiadthis is the ./configure output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/X7ScwB72.html02:16
jribace: you should be able to just remove the old kernel package (linux-image-*), but it is a good idea to keep 2 around imo.  One you know that works from before, and the new one02:16
deltabsethk: macros?02:16
aceJrib: oo ok I just needed want it taking up to much space02:16
acedidnt* please excuse my typing02:16
sethkdeltab, macros.  the things down in the rc.d directory, various scripts and such, that take the config files and other inputs and produce the ifconfig commands, which is what the o/s actually understands02:16
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matt8806suomihow big should ubuntu be after install02:17
beunosethk, I tried it on a different server (local), and I get this:    /etc/network/interfaces:15: duplicate option02:17
jester45feross: what about hp-ppd02:17
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deltabsethk: oh, I'm not using those02:17
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sethkbeuno, ok, I would have to figure it out.  since my problem is solved with the ifconfig, I've never been motivated to do so.02:17
ferossjester45: not sure.. what does man hp-ppd say?02:17
ofer0ace, it is the best for you to keep ALL old kernels, unless you have a good reason to not do so. maybe now you don't need it - but when you'll have kernel problems you'll be sorry about it.02:17
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jester45HP Postscript Printer Definition (PPD) files'02:18
sethkdeltab, oh, you are using the ip binary, sorry, didn't read carefully enough02:18
beunosethk, I guess I can do it with ifconfig then for now, what was the command again?02:18
aceofer0: ok thanks for the advice ill be sure not to mess with it or anything02:18
oldskool3I'm loading from ubuntu cd, ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens. Is it because I have ATi?02:18
deltabsethk: I don't think ifconfig supports it02:18
sethkbeuno, ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###   (eth0:1 is for example; as has been pointed out, the syntax is eth0:anything)02:18
sethkdeltab, of course it does.  I do it every day.02:18
ofer0ace, you can remove REALLY REALLY old entries by commenting them out on /boot/grub/menu.lst, but don't do anything further unless you have a good reason.02:18
larrywset timestamp_string =02:18
beunowaaaait02:19
beunomy mistake02:19
beunoit DOES work02:19
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sethkbeuno, oh, good.  Now we know.  :)02:19
deltabsethk: adding multiple addresses to one interface?02:19
aceofer): oo ok I dont really have any really really old entries02:19
beunoI mistiped "iface"02:19
sethkdeltab, no, using aliases.02:19
jriboiad: I'm not sure what is going on there, but I can suggest that you download the source package for edgy and try compiling that instead02:19
deltabsethk: ah, I wasn't talking about aliases02:19
ferossjester45: it might be e depend to hplip but it probably won't work on it's own. Weird that you can't get hplip, no xfce interface for it? I use gnome so I wouldn't know, you'll have to do some research on that and if necessary download and install hplip manually.02:19
sethkdeltab, I thought you meant ifconfig doesn't support aliases.  I'm half asleep  :)02:19
aceofer0: what if i commented it out, could I use a livecd and change it back if my current kernel got messed up?02:19
matt8806suomi####how big should ubuntu be after install####02:20
sethkace, sure02:20
oiadthanks jrib02:20
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deltabsethk: actually, when I used its add command, it created an alias02:20
ofer0ace, so don't touch it for now. you are going to do something which is very dangerous. if you comment it out, you can use GRUB itself to remove your comments, with the "edit" option. nice and easy.02:20
jester45feross: think this could work? libprinterconf0c2a - Printer autodetection library02:20
sethkdeltab, ok, that makes sense.02:20
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aceoferO: OO ok yea i dont wanna do ti then02:20
ferossjester45: nah, same as hp-ppd02:21
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aceoferO: ok thanks for your help!02:21
beunosethk, thank you VERY much02:21
ofer0ace, have fun.02:21
sethkbeuno, np02:21
deltaband ifconfig can't see past the first address assigned to the interface02:21
ofer0deltab, /proc can02:21
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ferossjester45: usually hplip is installed by default. I know I've had to turn off the service just so it's not sucking up cpu cycles in the background. I don't havy any printer setup on the lappy I'm on. Also turned off cups.02:22
jester45feross: they have things for the officejet and lasrjet but not deskjet :(02:22
deltabsure, but my point is that ifconfig only allows access to some of what's possible02:22
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ninja_monkeyis there a way to check and see if another application has locked an administration path?02:23
ninja_monkeyerr.. directory02:23
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ofer0ninja_monkey, what is an admin dir ?02:23
ofer0ninja_monkey, and why would anybody lock it?02:23
knut_need help by configuring opera 9 for my 64bit system02:23
knut_dont know how to run the 32bit one02:23
deltabTokenbad: backed up your important files?02:23
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bashusrhey... can i install ubuntu from another distro?02:24
bashusror from an old ubuntu live CD?02:24
Tokenbaddeltab, not yet...was hoping not have to do that02:24
bashusri got a real old one... ubuntu 4...02:24
ferossjester45: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184838  read there02:24
Dr_willisbashusr,  ick.02:25
ninja_monkeyofer0: Well.. don't ask me, I just installed Ubuntu :) I tried to go "sudo apt-get install xx" but I got an error message saying "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proccess using ut?"02:25
deltabTokenbad: it's a good thing to do anyway, especially when doing things affected filesystems and disks02:25
bashusrDr_willis: yeah. help? :-P02:25
Dr_willisbashusr,  it  may be possible - but it sure wouldent be trivial02:25
deltab^afffecting02:25
ofer0ninja_monkey, yes, you probably have synaptic running.02:25
ofer0ninja_monkey, the program that installs other applications02:25
ninja_monkeyAh, yea, thanks..02:25
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Dr_willisbashusr,  that 'ubuntu hacks' book mentioned using debootstrap  for a xen install.. but ive never tried it.02:25
ninja_monkeyofer0: works, thanks.02:26
bashusrDr_willis: command line trivial... or manually partitioning, installing GRUB, and making my own kernel trivial?02:26
Dr_willisbashusr,  all of those are rather trivial. :P02:26
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bashusrDr_willis: uh...02:26
deltabapt-get could tell you what program's got the lock02:26
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reterif your system saids its broken what do you do?02:26
bashusrDr_willis: what kinda trivial are you talking about?02:26
Dr_willisbashusr,   ive never used debootstrap which i would THINK would be the way to do that..02:26
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jsleeperanyone running ubuntu on a sun blade 100?02:26
Dr_willisbashusr,  may want to check the forums/wikis - they may have some detailed docs.02:27
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Dr_willisbashusr,  it may be possible if you had more then 1 machine to get an iso, and do a net boot/install..   but  not sure why you are  needing to go about this in such a hard way.02:27
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knut_why does nobody help me :(02:28
knut_damn support02:28
lmosherIs there any way to connect to a wireless access point using WPA or WPA2? The only key options I see in the wireless GUI are for WEP02:28
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wickedpuppyknut_, first ... its possible that nobody got 64 bit here ... at least those who are alive .. second we are not support .. we are volunteer helpers02:29
Pierreknut_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava should work for opera as well02:29
kitchelmosher: yes make sure you have wpa_supplicant installed02:29
SuperQlmosher: you need a wpa config02:29
sbor7052I have a quick and dirty question, can someone direct me to a resource for managing users/groups etc from the command line? Yes, I know google exists, I am looking for somethign ubuntu specific02:29
ferosslmosher: go to  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com  .. have a minihowto for WPA.02:29
lmosherkitche, SuperQ ok I've installed both of those (well apt is currently crunching) after that?02:30
lmosherah ok thanks feross02:30
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M_Fatihhi all. when i try to copy a dvd iso file (4.4GB) cp and mv commands error like this "File size limit exceeded" how can i copm/move my files?02:30
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jester45feross: q thanksfor you help i really need to srt looking at the ubuntu site more hopefully i dont need to come back02:30
kitcheM_Faith: fat32?02:31
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mjrM_Fatih, you're probably trying to copy to a fat partition. It won't happen.02:31
chupacabrawhat are the keystrokes for changing desktops in Gnome?02:31
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ofer0chupacabra, ctrl+alt+left/right02:31
ofer0chupacabra, ctrl+alt+left/right/up/down02:31
bruenigchupacabra, you mean workspaces?02:31
M_Fatihmjr, :(( yes :( so, i can't do it..02:31
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A-L-P-H-Awhat's a cli random password generator for linux called?02:31
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ofer0A-L-P-H-A, pwgen02:31
A-L-P-H-Aofer0, thanks02:32
ofer0A-L-P-H-A, have fun02:32
sbor7052I have a quick and dirty question, can someone direct me to a resource for managing users/groups etc from the command line? Yes, I know google exists, I am looking for somethign ubuntu specific02:32
chupacabrasweet.  xfce is ctl 1,2,3,402:32
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A-L-P-H-Aofer0, I'll try... :)02:32
M_Fatihmjr, can i copy 2.5GB file? if i split this flie and copy to fat part.. is it possible?02:32
jbjulyhow do I use generic names in desktop menus?02:32
jribsbor7052: adduser, but it's not ubuntu specific02:32
codecaineanyone know what gedit key bindings are?02:32
knut_mh02:32
chupacabrajust more places to run EWterm02:32
ofer0sbor7052, ubuntu specific? don't know anything about it. just use "adduser addgroup usermod groupmod passwd gpasswd"02:32
mjrM_Fatih, yes02:32
xenoNfluXcould anyone help me figure out the syntax for writing a tiny boot script?02:32
chupacabraEterm02:32
Tokenbaddeltab, I know but when not have disk to burn to...or space to backup to02:33
sbor7052ofer: ty what I was looking for02:33
M_Fatihmjr, yeha.. i'm tryin.. thanks body02:33
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knut_pierre im using firefox, but i want opera '-.-02:33
codecaineAnyone in here able to help me figure out what the key bindings are in gedit for editing files?02:33
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bruenigknut_, sudo apt-get install opera02:33
ferossxenoNfluX: first line '#!/bin/bash'  then commands after it.. save the text file then 'chmod +x filename' then ./filename to execute.02:33
bashusrfine fine02:34
knut_gives an error bruinig02:34
bashusri'll waste a CD02:34
knut_too old version02:34
bashusrand burn02:34
xenoNfluXfeross, thanks, will try02:34
bashusrburn burn burn baby!02:34
Pierreknut_: can you please *read* this page? it describes the way to configure linux32, it should work as well for opera.02:34
jbjulyhow do I use generic names in desktop menus?02:34
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deltabTokenbad: okay, at least run ls -lR02:34
knut_okay, then i try it, thx pierre.. :)02:34
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ferossjbjuly: hmm. can you be more specific?02:35
wickedpuppyjbjuly, pls defind generic .. and give us an example ?02:35
knut_but now i have to go to bed02:35
knut_thank you and good night, byby!02:35
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jbjulyI want to use "Web Browser" instead of "Firefox Web Browser" I saw the .desktop file and there's a defined Name= and GenericName=, I want to use the GenericName02:36
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qatsii need help with a Encore network card, please help me...it wont install/start02:36
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matt8806suomi##How do i play WMV files in ubuntu (gnome)02:37
qatsi....02:37
jribubotu: tell matt8806suomi about wmv02:37
LilandraHi02:37
Darkazelhey02:37
sethkbrb, dog walking02:38
Darkazelalguien habla espagnol_02:38
jrib!es02:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:38
M_Fatihanother question : how can i rip my dvd's to xvid or divx (any good compression types)?02:38
Darkazelok thx02:38
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qatsiDarkazel: yo, but its better that we go to the es channel...02:38
ferossqatsi: google says you need to compile drivers manually02:38
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xenoNfluXfeross, that worked... thanks... another quick Q, is there a way I could get an app to run in the background? The script executed on boot just fine, but it takes over my boot screen (and since its running server, it doesnt give me a bash prompt unless I SSH in)02:38
Celestehi02:38
LilandraDoes anyone know why azureus depends on mozilla-browser?02:38
Dr_willis!info dvdrip02:38
ubotudvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB02:39
wickedpuppyjbjuly, eh ah ... then change the name to the name you wish to be ? btw if you use firefox pls admit you are using firefox .. i think its only fair to the developers02:39
qatsifeross: yes, i did that, and the network worked, i updated my system, but when i rebooted it wouldnt start/work..02:39
Celesteis there an inofficial apt-get server which offers a package for "xpde" (thats a windows manager or maybe desktop environment)02:39
Tokenbaddeltab, from what dir02:39
Dr_willisxpde - ICK. :P02:39
Dr_willislol02:39
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Dr_willis!info xpde02:39
ubotuPackage xpde does not exist in any distro I know02:39
ferossqatsi: you need to do the install again as you did the first time.02:39
matt8806suomijrib: thanks02:40
CelesteDr_willis, I need this for an internet cafe02:40
Tokenbaddeltab, and what does it do?02:40
qatsifeross: every time i need to run the card ?02:40
CelesteDr_willis, myself, I will use KDE ;)02:40
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Dr_willisCeleste,  last i used xpde - it wasent even useable.. it was so... nasty02:40
ofer0Celeste, maybe XFCE ?02:40
ferossqatsi: no every time the kernel updates.02:40
Dr_willisCeleste,  icewm + a windows95 theme is a better choice...02:40
deltabTokenbad: list all files, recursively02:40
Dr_willisor jwm, or some other window manager02:40
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Tokenbaddeltab, ok why would I do that? to check files?02:40
qatsifeross: uhmm, ok...il try doing the same thank you02:40
Darkazelnobody in the ubuntu-es02:41
ofer0you can have icewm with redmondxp theme02:41
ofer0you'll even have the "Start" button!02:41
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deltabTokenbad: the idea is to visit each directory in the filesystem, to make sure it's reachable and doesn't contain junk02:41
Dr_willisor theres even some kde taskbars and themes that make it more windowish02:41
ferossxenoNfluX: If you put an & it will put it in the background02:41
Celesteok I will try out all your ideas Dr_willis. and ofer002:41
Darkazelwell somebody knows where i can download the drivers for my motherboard???02:41
deltabTokenbad: or you could run fsck again02:41
qatsiDarkazel: i suggest driverguide.com02:41
CelesteDr_willis, I will rejoin the kde channel for asking you a question there02:42
xenoNfluXfeross, like "./sc_serv &" ?02:42
ofer0Darkazel, maybe from your drivers manufactor official website?02:42
ferossxenoNfluX: right02:42
xenoNfluXfeross, thanks again :)02:42
Darkazelok.. but ubuntu support??02:42
ofer0Darkazel, s/drivers/hardware/ # I'm tired.02:42
ofer0Darkazel, maybe, we'll going to have to check. which motherboard model are we talking about?02:42
Darkazelu8668 grand...02:42
jbjulywickedpuppy: is there any keyword just to insert so it will use the GenericName?02:43
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PauloFurquimPls somebody knows how I start a maxell flash drive stick under ubuntu 6.06 LTS?02:43
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qatsiPauloFurquim: it should start automatically02:43
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Darkazelits my first time in this ... someone can help me?02:44
lmosherI jujst installed networkmanager. WHen I left click on this I do not see an option "connect to other wireless network"... why?02:44
highnekoHow can I find out what my video card version is?02:44
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ofer0Darkazel, unfortunately, your hardware manufactor didn't bother to create drivers for linux too, so you'll have to improvise something.02:44
wickedpuppyjbjuly, no ... from what i seen the name of the program is the name you will see ... create a shortcut on the panel on the top and right click on it .. and play with it .. btw why are you against the names ? i don't feel very good honestly ..02:44
jbjulycan someone share the /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ directory that SLED 10 use?02:44
lmoshermy wireless card is eth1, not wlan0... it's an intel prowireless.02:44
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pooh_beawr_what do you think the best alternative to amarok is?02:45
Darkazelok...02:45
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mistraalis there any way of determining what packages were installed in the last update?02:45
qatsiDarkazel: checa la pestana02:45
jbjulywickedpuppy: no, I just want to know how it looks like when I use GenericName02:45
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Darkazel?02:45
codecaineI am looking for gedit keybindings, can anyone help me?  I want to know what keys do what while editing files.02:45
Darkazelcual pestagna_02:45
ofer0mistraal, yes, you can read the APT logfile.02:45
bimberimistraal: look in /var/log/dpkg.log02:45
mistraalthx02:45
Harksawdumb question: how do you take a screenshot in ubuntu?02:45
wickedpuppyjbjuly, then just change the name to the name you wish ... then revert back ... simple02:45
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ofer0Harksaw, you can use "scrot"02:45
PauloFurquimqatsi, I plug into usb and nothing happens...02:45
ofer0Harksaw, sudo aptitude install scrot02:45
bimberiHarksaw: hit the Print Screen button02:45
qatsiDarkazel: te envie un mensaje personal, seguro se abrio en una penstana (si usas GAIM) o en otra ventana, si usas otro IRC02:46
wickedpuppyHarksaw, application -> accessories -> take screen shot02:46
Harksawahhh, i was trying ctrl+print scr02:46
jbjulywickedpuppy: thanks!, IMO, there's should be a way to do it, I guess it's not proposed yet02:46
qatsiPauloFurquim: check if the usb works, else try to mout it manually02:46
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Harksawthanks02:46
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bimberiHarksaw: unlearn that windows :)02:46
bimberiHarksaw: np :)02:46
wickedpuppyjbjuly, nobody will propose and nobody will implement it ... can you imagine photoshop icon saying photo editing software ?02:47
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ArrenLexHarksaw: why don't you just press print screen? Honestly? Can anyone even begin to justify the purpose of using a program to take a screenshot?02:47
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martalliWhat is the apt-get equivalent of the ubuntu update manager?  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade or apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?02:47
wickedpuppyArrenLex, actually i wonder why is it in the program listing ... lol02:47
HarksawArrenLex, I sure can't02:48
jribmartalli: upgrade02:48
martallithanks02:48
Dr_willisArrenLex,  seen them used in an automated way to make a 'animation' of some task. :P02:48
ArrenLexmartalli: If you use upgrade, it won't install packages if you need to install new packages to update them: i.e. if when going from foobar v2 to foobar v3 you added a new dependency and have to install the sithblob package too. dist-upgrade would also install sithblob.02:49
ArrenLexDr_willis: well sure, but that doesn't seem to be what he's after.02:49
LilandraHi, is gij sun java?02:49
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Dr_willisLilandra,  No its not.02:49
ArrenLexLilandra: no; GNU interpreter for Java02:49
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Lilandraok02:49
ArrenLexInterpreter *02:49
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jbjulyIs there a sled 10 channel in freenode, I want to ask them fo send me theri /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ so I can use it with ubuntu. I saw gnome-main-menu in edgy repository.02:49
Lilandrais there Sun Java for ppc linux?02:49
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martalliSo for a conservative system (like my partner's computer he uses for typing and firefox, I should just stick to upgrade.02:50
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CelesteI need to restart02:50
Celestewill be back soon02:50
lmosherCan anyone help me figure out how to install WPA?02:50
derekSis it possible to use fetchmail to download (via pop or imap) a subdir of a maildir?02:50
ArrenLexmartalli: whatever suits your needs.02:50
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martallithanks for the advice, guys02:51
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qatsiis there a reverse function to insmod ? like, to delete a model from the kernel ?02:51
deltabderekS: if the server makes it available, it should be possible02:51
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deltabqatsi: rmmod02:51
derekSdeltab: how?02:51
qatsideltab: thanks, ill try it :)02:51
derekSon a gui imap client, it works....02:51
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deltabderekS: by subdir I presume you mean a nested maildir, and not one of the tmp, new, cur dirs that make up a maildir02:52
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qatsiok, now my network card is working...:) lets see if it works after reboot :p02:53
MrKeunerhi, I am having problem with php. Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0 what does this mean.02:53
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derekSdeltab: thats what i do mean02:54
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sethkMrKeuner, line 0 in unknown means it doesn't know what file and it doesn't know what line02:55
sethkMrKeuner, failed to open stream probably means that it tried to create a pipe and didn't have the privileges, but that's just an educated guess.02:56
sethkMrKeuner, heavier on the guess side than the educated side02:56
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derekSdeltab: any suggestions?02:56
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SkramXi am on hoary right now.. can i upgrade to dapper without reinstalling?02:56
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sethkderekS, if you don't mind a bit of programming, you could do it in python using an imap library.02:57
sethkderekS, I imagine perl has the same capability02:57
ferossSkramX: you should be able to change your sources.list to point to dapper then do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ..02:57
derekSsethk: it can't be done with fetchmail?02:58
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SkramXfeross: okay02:58
SkramXwill do02:58
deltabderekS: folder, -r02:58
derekSahh nice02:58
derekSthanks02:58
qatsiok, i have a crappy network card, and every time i reboot, i have to do sudo rmmod sundance.ko and then insmod ./sundance.ko and then it works. I could simply do a script that executes everytime i boot, but...i think theres another way around, could ou think of any ? thank you02:58
ferossSkramX: well remember to do an 'apt-get update' once the source.list is changed then the dist-upgrade02:58
sethkderekS, not sure02:58
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SkramXokay02:58
ArrenLexSkram: of course:02:59
ArrenLexsudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:59
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Tokenbaddeltab, this was at the end of the fsck:  /dev/hdd1: 4315/6144000 files (8.0% non-contiguous), 7880753/12264704 blocks02:59
qatsideltab: every time i reboot, i have to do sudo rmmod sundance.ko and then insmod ./sundance.ko to make my network cad work. I could simply do a script that executes everytime i boot, but...i think theres another way around, could you think of any ? thank you02:59
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SkramXwow.. 500mb of updates from hoary => dapper03:01
deltabTokenbad: any errors?03:01
harisundhas anybody used the ROPE programming language on Ubuntu?03:01
deltabqatsi: I think there's a config file that affects the order modules are loaded in03:02
larrywhi03:02
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dementtEvenings03:02
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dementtHere we go again, Ubuntu install just burning ^^03:03
qatsideltab: you think the order is the one who is making me cry?...ok, ill check if I find anything, if i do, ill break a BIG hole in hardware with these encore cards...:) thank you03:03
godtvisk1nWhat is a good dvd ripping program?03:03
ArrenLexMPlayer! :D03:03
brueniggodtvisk1n, you assume there is one?03:03
dementtHey, how are the ATI-drivers doing nowadays?03:03
SkramXthis'll take a while.. 500mb updates for this ubuntu box to go from 5.1 to 6.0603:03
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dementtI heard that lot better03:03
godtvisk1nbruenig: at least one that is better than others03:04
deltabqatsi: I guess so, since removing and re-adding the driver makes it work, it may be being loaded too early03:04
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qatsideltab: so, you dont have any idea what file is that ?03:04
deltabor are you loading a different sundance.ko?03:04
ArrenLexdemnett: poorly. I can't use them.03:04
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jmerlinUncompressing Lexmark Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 03:05
jmerlinhow do i print with that now?03:05
dementtArrenLex what card do you have?03:05
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ArrenLexdemnett: 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] 03:05
Tokenbaddeltab, not that I saw....but gparted still shows only 55 gigs03:05
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jmerlinUncompressing Lexmark Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 03:05
jmerlinhow do i print with that now?03:05
dementtArrenLex aight, I am having X800 so lets hope there is some difference ^^03:06
qatsideltab: nope, its the same one, i just unload it, and re-load it...03:06
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qatsideltab: if i do lsmod ! grep sundance it displays the information and says: used by 0, but its being used by...at least 103:09
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deltabqatsi: if you can remove it, it's not being used03:10
imperfect-Anyone here familiar w/ using nvidia drivers with TV out?03:10
sethkqatsi, you can try moving the module up to an earlier position in /etc/modules03:10
imperfect-My color is fine until I load X then it has a nasty hue03:10
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sethkqatsi, you can rebuild the kernel with the driver compiled in, instead of using a module for the driver03:11
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qatsisethk: ok, i just added it to etc/modules at the bottom, ill try adding it to the top, and see if it works...03:11
sethkqatsi, ok, there's a chance it will help, but I'm not putting any money on it  :)03:11
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qatsisethk: ok, so if i rebuild the kernel witth the module in it, it wont be a module anymore ?03:11
sethkqatsi, right, it will be part of the kernel image03:11
sethkqatsi, which guarantees that it's available when needed.03:12
highnekoxgl uses 95% cpu. Is it fixable?!03:12
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qatsisethk: darn sethk, any help is welcome, with this crappy card, anything that works...03:12
ArrenLexhighneko: is the performance decent or is it slow?03:12
highnekoIt's ok until I open windows.03:12
ArrenLexxD03:12
highnekoI can use menus!03:12
ninja_monkeyHow can I delete all files of a package I installed, including it's configfiles?03:13
sethkhighneko, who needs windows, anyway?03:13
ArrenLexHighneko: run the command "glxinfo | grep renderer" and paste the result.03:13
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qatsisethk: ok, after reboot, now i have two modules, sundance and mii, sundance says its not being used by anyone, but mii is being used by...1, sundance :P pretty strange...03:13
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chrisghey all03:13
ArrenLexninjamonkey: apt-get remove --purge <package>03:13
chrisgthe only difference between ubuntu, and kbuntu is kbuntu uses kde right?03:13
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ArrenLexchrisg: yes.03:13
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ArrenLexAnd it's kubuntu.03:13
chrisgthat is literally the ONLY difference?03:13
highnekoArrenLex: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 2005022503:13
ArrenLexchrisg: yes.03:13
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ArrenLexhighneko: You have an integrated card?03:14
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chrisghmm, so ubuntu cant run KDE?03:14
ninja_monkey ArrenLex, does that include all packages that got installed with it?03:14
chrisglike if i wanted to try both?03:14
gnomefreakchrisg: different programs (kde versions)03:14
ArrenLexchrisg: of course it can.03:14
highnekoArrenLex: I do'nt know.03:14
ArrenLexninja: no. For that, you have to install packages with aptitude.03:14
gnomefreakchrisg: you can have both03:14
chrisghmm03:14
qatsiToday a guy asked if i could get an illegal copy of Ubuntu, because it was too expensive....:s !03:14
chrisgso then what exactly is the difference?03:14
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chrisgjust by default it uses kde?03:14
ninja_monkeyArrenLex: thanks.03:14
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Ranbeehi, does truecrypt have a gui?03:14
ArrenLexchrisg: yes.03:14
gnomefreakchrisg: the basic is gnome is gtk libs and kde is qt libs03:14
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chrisghmm03:15
sethkqatsi, tell him yes, but there is a small charge03:15
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qatsisethk: haha, i told him he was the owner, he could do whatever he wanted...i think i scared him :p03:15
sethkchrisg, I use the regular ubuntu cd, then install KDE afterwards03:15
ArrenLexThis is for everyone with Flash installed, who wants to be amused ->> http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54&swfSize=203:15
chrisgso for a 2.0ghz, 1gig ram, geforce fx 5900xt 128mb... which would you guys prefer?03:15
sethkchrisg, that's exactly the same as using the kubuntu install.03:15
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sethkchrisg, that hardware can easily handle either one03:16
gnomefreakArrenLex: please post that in #ubuntu-offtopic instead of here03:16
ArrenLexYessir. Sorry sir.03:16
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sethkchrisg, I prefer KDE, although that's a minority view here.  best thing to do is to try both yourself.03:16
dementtgnome ftw03:16
dementt^^03:16
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chrisgyea... ok thanks a bunch guys03:16
dementtHad to blast, we all have our opinions03:16
brandon_is anybody running dapper right now?03:16
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Dr_willisI  perfer KDE. :P03:16
ArrenLexKDE is life.03:16
ArrenLexbrandon: almost everyone here is.03:16
Dr_willisbrandon_,  a lot of us i would guess.03:17
brandon_can you check your system/administration menu and see if there's a "disks" option?03:17
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highnekoYes, there is for me.03:17
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brandon_fire up the menu editor and check what command is being run there?03:17
foohm, my sound stopped working. Any ideas? I tried to restart alsa-utils but that didn't do anything. lsof|grep dsp returned nothing. hmm03:17
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highnekogksu disks-admin03:18
yipHi all, I do not know if this question should ask in here. I am sorry about this. I am looking for a help on starting emacs on remote machine through SSH03:18
rahmielTo enable 1280x1024 resolution, do I just need to add it to the modes in my xorg.conf or is there another way?03:18
qatsiis there a log of the order in which the modules where loaded ?03:19
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bruenig!xconfig03:19
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:19
jmerlinwhat version of CUPS is packaged with ubuntu 6.0603:20
shriphaniguys i cant partition my drive03:20
DarkMageZcan anyone recommend a directconnect (dc++) client for ubuntu?03:20
gnomefreakbruenig: the menu editor is alacarte that should also be the command03:20
jmerlinshriphani, you can, you're just not trying hard enough.03:20
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shriphanihuh03:20
shriphanii think i am03:20
brueniggnomefreak, to what are you referring. I was throwing tha tout for rahmiel who wanted to change his resolution03:21
shriphanii ran the live cd03:21
gnomefreakoh03:21
shriphaniasked it partition03:21
rahmielThank you bruenig.03:21
yipMy question is. when I type >emacs filename on a remote machine. I am on a terminal emacs interface instead of the emacs21 GUI i install on my machine. Is there a way to set up emacs so that. It start the GUI emacs instead of the terminal base one03:21
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shriphaniafter a good 20 mins it says opeation failed03:21
Dr_willisyip how are you getting to the remote machine?03:21
yipssh Dr_willis03:21
Amaranthyip: Only if the remote system has X and Xemacs installed.03:21
Amaranthyip: Not likely for a server.03:22
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yipOh i see03:22
yipso that's not my setting03:22
Amaranthnope03:22
yipthat's the server setting03:22
AmaranthI find it interesting you know how to use emacs but don't know how that works. ;)03:22
AmaranthNo offense, it's just that emacs is really....complicated.03:22
Dr_willisyip,   and you are on a Linux machine locally? if so use the X forwarding feature of  ssh03:22
yipoh but... when I connect to the same server at my school. my school Linux box will start the emacs GUI03:23
jmerlinhm.. adobe viewer wants to print to /bin/lp .. how do i change it to print to my installed printer?03:23
Dr_willisyip ssh -X whatever, then run the stuff03:23
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ArrenLexjmerlin: file - print.03:23
yipok let me see Dr_willis03:23
Ranbeeshriphani: maybe it's to do with RAID, dapper, gparted etc won't partition my drives either, or it needs something loaded with it to work03:23
jmerlin...03:23
shriphanii got no raids here03:23
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ArrenLexjmerlin: the box which sets the print command is right there.03:23
jmerlin/usr/bin/lp <-- it has this selected as printer..03:23
shriphanijust my hd03:23
Ranbeek03:24
SpudDoggHas anyone here ever gotten an Atheros chipset USB network device working in Ubuntu?03:24
jmerlinyes, but in things like open office word03:24
jmerlinit let sme choose the printer i installed03:24
yipoh sweet, Dr_willis. It works03:24
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jmerlindoesn't give me a command03:24
sethkyip, check whether the DISPLAY environment variable is set.  If it isn't, emacs will default to terminal mode03:24
jmerlinhell if i know the command my linux driver installed.03:24
Dr_willisyip,  edit your ssh configs to make the -X the default03:24
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sethkyip, if you are connecting with ssh, be sure to use    ssh -X  ..............03:24
yipso i need to invoke the X feature on my terminal in order to make it work03:24
yipok03:24
yipthx for helping Dr_willis03:24
foohm, my sound stopped working. Any ideas? I tried to restart alsa-utils but that didn't do anything. lsof|grep dsp returned nothing. hmm03:24
ArrenLexjmerlin: they use different printing systems. I strongly suggest that you don't mess with it if you can avoid it. Make sure you have "cupsys-bsd" installed and then adobe will print fine to the default printer with that command.03:24
sethkyip, there are several ways to make it work, although they all do essentially the same thing.03:24
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yipi see03:25
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sethkyip, Dr_willis's idea about making -X the default is a good idea03:25
jmerlinjmerlin@FRIENDLYHACKER:~$ lp03:25
jmerlinlp: Error - no default destination available.03:25
ArrenLexfoo: it just randomly stopped working? Or did you something?03:25
jmerlinhard to print to a default when there isn't one03:25
ArrenLexjmerlin: what print subsystem are you using? cups?03:25
jmerlinyes03:25
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dave___trying to install ubuntu on my sisters computer, and she has a linksys wirelessG USB , when i try to activate it , it freezes the whole computer up03:25
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dave___anyone know whats going on?03:26
ArrenLexjmerlin: then apt-get install cupsys-bsd03:26
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jmerlinit's installed.03:26
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rylasasinhow do I get easy ubuntu on my other build?03:26
fooArrenLex: Random. Kind of weird.03:26
ArrenLexjmerlin: and adobe doesn't work with the default settings?03:26
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ArrenLexfoo: pastebin the output of amixer.03:26
jmerlinno03:26
jmerlincupsys-bsd is already the newest version.03:27
fooArrenLex: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/amixer.txt03:27
jmerlinsays apt-get03:27
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ArrenLexjmerlin: how about setting a default printer for cupsys?03:27
jmerlinyeh03:27
jmerlindidn't think of that03:27
rylasasinhow do you get easyubuntu?03:27
jmerlinlol.. leave me alone03:27
ArrenLexWell fine. :(03:28
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jmerlinlol i meant don't make fun of me =>03:28
jmerlinim still getting used to linux03:28
jmerlini used it over SSH for a while for running servers on apache with php03:28
jmerlinbut i have never used it as a desktop03:28
ArrenLexfoo: uh, yeah. Your problem is very obscure and difficult to solve.03:28
jmerlinyeah that worked =>03:28
jmerlinlp recognizes it as the default03:28
ArrenLexfoo: it's really a brand new technology not yet fully understood or developed by man.03:28
fooArrenLex: haha. /me waits for the easy fix03:29
ArrenLexfoo: basically it's this weird thing called a "volume control" and if it's "off" sound doesn't play. I'm not sure why.03:29
imperfect-Is there anyone here that can help me wiuth an nvidia configuration problem?03:29
fooArrenLex: haha03:29
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fooArrenLex: rofl. you're genius. *hides*03:29
foohaha.03:29
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ArrenLexYou're welcome. =P03:30
jmerlinnow that i've played around with linux enough, it's nearly time for me to re-install ubuntu and reconfigure it properly without fucking up over and over =)03:30
DBOjmerlin, less on the swearing please =)03:30
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ArrenLexjmerlin: I've found that Linux is remarkably tolerant to fixing things without reinstalling. Are you sure you have to?03:30
jmerlinlol ok03:30
qatsisethk: ok, i did a small shell script, lets hope it works...actually it was my firs shell script hehe03:30
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TheHighChildDoes anyone have a widescreen LCD?03:30
jmerlinArrenLex, when you install packages that aren't managed by synaptic03:30
jmerlinyou have rogue files and configuration modifications all over the place03:31
holycowjmerlin, lol03:31
qatsiTheHighChild: yes, i have two actually03:31
holycowyour doing really well03:31
jmerlin=P03:31
holycowkeep it up03:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: no, you don't, if you purge them when you remove them.03:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: apt-get remove --purge <package> purges the conf.03:31
jmerlini installed KDE and didn't like it, so i removed it03:31
Flanneljmerlin: if they're packages, they're installed via dpkg, which is just as good as synaptic, just without the downloading.03:31
jmerlinand now i have quite a few KDE apps lying around that i can't find the packages for03:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: you want all vestiges of KDE off your system? That can be done.03:31
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TheHighChildqatsi: I just got a Samsung 20". I have everything working, just wondering if there's a way to optimize everything03:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: found this yesterday, hold on...03:31
jmerlini removed the packages i installed for KDE, it should've uninstalled the accompanying packages too =\03:31
holycowjmerlin, what prompted the idea to try ubuntu desktop?03:32
holycowjust curious03:32
jmerlinbecause i hate windows.03:32
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dave___anyoen have any luck with linksys USB wireless-G ?03:32
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ArrenLexjmerlin: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome03:32
qatsiTheHighChild: yes there is, there are special fonts for LCD Screens...google it :)...03:32
highnekoIs it possible to remove these thumbnails in the workspace/desktop thing?03:32
ArrenLexjmerlin: run the top command on that03:32
ArrenLexjmerlin: if you want, instead of apt-get remove, use apt-get remove --purge to get everything.03:32
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ArrenLexjmerlin: that'll remove all vestiges of KDE.03:32
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SpudDoggHas anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?03:33
holycowjmerlin, as good a reason as any :)03:33
holycowlol03:33
holycowwelcome03:33
jmerlin=)03:33
jmerlinthere are others03:33
ArrenLexjmerlin: which?03:33
jmerlinbtw ArrenLex, that set my default printer, but it still doesn't print03:33
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jmerlinwhen i hit 'ok' on the print panel, it doesn't do anything through my printer03:33
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holycowone of the things that you will find is that once you 'learn' say kde or gnome and how the whole thing works  and gain some profficiency03:33
holycowyou won't be able to go back if you try03:33
holycowit will be impossible beyond a certain point03:33
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ArrenLexjmerlin: is there a particular reason you need adobe reader? It's total bloatware. How about evince?03:34
holycowevince works really well03:34
jmerlini know it is03:34
holycowacroread is also fugly03:34
suff0kateWhats The Best LInux Vulnerability Scanner For Webpages?03:34
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SpudDoggHas anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?03:34
jmerlinwell..03:34
jmerlinit's the one devved by adobe..03:34
holycowthey didn't take any real care to do de integration ... just pumped out some code in qt03:34
jmerlinand where i work, they want me to install that on the linux machine there03:34
jmerlinand have it printing through pharos03:34
holycowjmerlin, don't use that ... try evince first03:34
ArrenLexjmerlin: evince has yet to fail rendering a PDF for me.03:34
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jmerlinit's not for me03:35
holycowuse evince, then decide if its good enough03:35
dzer0hello03:35
MadpilotArrenLex, AcroRead, ugly as it is, is still the best PDF renderer out there03:35
jmerlinit's for idiots who are XP zombies03:35
jmerlinwho come into a computer lab03:35
jmerlinsit down03:35
ArrenLexOh. That's different.03:35
jmerlinwant to open the PDF03:35
jmerlinand see what they see on windows XP03:35
jmerlinwhich is what acroread is03:35
ArrenLexMadpilot: point me to a PDF that evince misrenders, please.03:35
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dzer0I installed vncserver and logged in, and it connects but there is just a gray background and an X cursotr03:35
holycowjmerlin, ah just change the icon for evince03:35
dzer0err, cursor03:35
holycowthey won't have a clue03:35
suff0kateWhats a good Vulnerability Scanner?03:35
ArrenLexjmerlin: so basically your workplace wants windows, minus the windows? Why?03:35
fgh_loi already own a domain and i have a dynamic ip. how can i point domain to my ip?03:35
jmerlinbecause the machines we're installing it on03:35
jmerlinare the very old machines in storage03:35
jmerlinwe have hundreds of them03:35
MadpilotArrenLex, off the top of my head, I can't, but I have run into several in last year or so03:35
jmerlinthey can't run win XP03:36
jmerlinnot enough ram, too slow03:36
TheHighChildfgh_lo: dyndns.com03:36
jmerlinand XP would cost a fortune to install on all them03:36
Madpilot!enter03:36
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.03:36
jmerlinlinux is free, it's very low bloat03:36
holycowjmerlin, sweet!03:36
jmerlinthey can run it very easily =>03:36
TheHighChildfgh_lo: and ddclient03:36
wickedpuppyfgh_lo, you need a static ip ...03:36
holycowi would be happy to try answer as many questions as you got (in the time that i have available) if you are making some cool use of old hardware03:36
ArrenLexjmerlin: it's not low bloat if you install KDE, acroread, openoffice, firefox...03:36
sethkjmerlin, there are alternatives to acroread that are better, IMO03:36
wickedpuppyoh okie ... but dyndns need to pay right ?03:36
holycow:) its just a shame we live in such a throw away society, kudos dude!03:36
sethkjmerlin, try kghostview, if you are in KDE03:36
holycowjust change the icon, no one will have a clue :)03:36
jmerlinwe're running GNOME on it03:36
sethkjmerlin, then ghostview should do it03:37
jmerlinand i've minimized it, to look like XP.. with just 1 bar etc03:37
dzer0anyone know why my VNC only shows a gray desktop with an X cursor?03:37
ArrenLexjmerlin: kghostview is not useable as a PDF renderer (it uses gs, which is just bad)03:37
fgh_loTheHighChild: can't i just install a dns serv on my linux box??03:37
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sethkjmerlin, there is also xpdf03:37
jmerlinxpdf?03:37
sethkjmerlin, try several, see which one runs best for you03:37
sethkjmerlin, yes, another pdf viewer program03:37
jmerlinoh03:37
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jmerlinthe one packaged with ubuntu works fine03:37
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holycowxpdf works nice, but it doesn't integrate into the gnome desktop03:37
jmerlini'll just take off acroread03:37
lastnodeis there anyway to write/copy files to a ntfs partition?03:37
jmerlinif i can't even get it to print to a local printer03:37
lastnode!ntfs > lastnode03:37
TheHighChildfgh_lo: Dunno about that man. I use the dyndns service, OI figured I'd suggest it03:37
jmerlinprinting through pharos is going to be hell.03:37
dave___how can i download the files from synaptic without installing them?03:37
wickedpuppy!ntfs03:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:37
ArrenLex!tell lastnode about fuse03:38
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sethkjmerlin, once you configure printing, all the X apps will print03:38
dzer0!vnc03:38
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.03:38
lastnodenothing03:38
lastnode!fuse > lastnode03:38
larrywfset msg %G[%n$0%B|%G$1%B<%n $3-03:38
sethkjmerlin, w.r.t. printing, it doesn't matter which pdf viewer app you use.03:38
fgh_loTheHighChild: what is ddclient?03:38
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rlandishow do I check how much disc space I have left to use03:38
ArrenLexrlandis: "df" command.03:38
qatsisethk: it works, the script works :)03:38
sethkjmerlin, the package for xpdf, if you want to check it out, is :   xpdf-reader03:38
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sethkqatsi, excellent.   :)03:38
imperfect-please!03:38
ericmoritz\0is there a way to make gnome-vfs' ftp to use active mode?03:38
SpudDoggHas anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?03:38
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imperfect-help a dude get his color working! ;)03:39
TheHighChildfgh_lo: It's an application that will check your IP every few hundred seconds and report it to a service that will forward your domain to the ip03:39
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lastnodehas anybody here actually tried fuse?03:39
ericmoritz\0lastnode, I have03:39
qatsisethk: ok, so i just have to find out a way to do it without the script :p03:39
sethkimperfect-, you mean you have a03:39
lastnodeericmoritz\0, has data got corrupted etc?03:39
sethkqatsi, well, once you can do it with a script, you can eventually do it without the script03:39
JamesGoddardhey, quick question - i currently run ubuntu and windows on the same hard drive ... is it possible to kill my windows partition and resize the ubuntu partition so that the drive is completely ubuntu?03:39
sethkimperfect-, what do you mean?  you have a display that isn't showing any colors????03:40
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jmerlini can't get anything to print though so yeah..03:40
holycowjames absolutely03:40
jmerlinlexmark has a package for redhat03:40
ericmoritz\0lastnode, I haven't used to long enough to corrupt data. i.e., I mounted something, thought, hmm, that's nice, but too complicated and unmounted03:40
sethkJamesGoddard, you can, but it's less risky to just make another partition out of the windows space03:40
JamesGoddard(without losing my ubuntu data)03:40
str47yo03:40
holycowjames boot into the live cd, start up gparted, delete your xp partition03:40
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ArrenLexjmerlin: what printer?03:40
StAfZe6hello03:40
StAfZe6secret03:40
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holycowand resize ubuntu03:40
jmerlinlexmark z3503:40
lastnodeericmoritz\0, ok :-)03:40
str47confidential03:40
sethkJamesGoddard, if you resize partitions, carefully back up everything03:40
holycowsimple and guiriffic03:40
JamesGoddardseth: hmm yeah, good idea03:40
jmerlinit extracts .rpm files03:40
david__can i set xwindows to log out after a certain amount of time?03:40
jmerlini alien'ed the main .rpm file03:40
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sethkJamesGoddard, creating a new partition in the windows spot and mounting it is just as good, really.03:40
jmerlinand installed the deb package03:40
holycowJamesGoddard, just make sure you backup /home, you NEVER know ... shit happens.  you don't want to have a power outage during a resize for example03:40
qatsisethk: yes, i think so :)...well, too muchfor today :) i really thank you for your help :), also you deltab :)...you saved at least 100 linux users :P ill post the code, and the research in the ubuntuforums :)03:41
jmerlinand it let me choose the driver in my printer configuration thingy when i added a new printer03:41
jmerlinbut it doesn't print anything when i go to print03:41
ericmoritz\0lastnode, I guess it corruption depends on the fuse module03:41
ArrenLexjmerlin: I tried alienning the redhat rpms for my colour laser Lexmark printer. It didn't work, to put it mildly. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8164503:41
ArrenLexHave you seen that?03:41
sethkalien is always an adventure; that's why you'll see so many precautions and disclaimers in the docs for it03:41
JamesGoddardsweet, thanks all03:41
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qatsiGood night everybody :)03:42
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jmerlinno03:42
jmerlindoes that work?03:42
fgh_loTheHighChild: what about no-ip.com? i already have an acct w/ them. can i point the domain i own to no-ip?03:42
ArrenLexjmerlin: hell if I know. It was just the first thing google found.03:42
jmerlinlol03:42
jmerlinthat's basically what i did..03:42
jmerlini alien'ed the .rpm03:43
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jmerlinthen double-clicked on the .deb03:43
holycowjmerlin, what printer?03:43
ArrenLexholycow: z3503:43
holycowdid you check on linuxprinting.org for printer support?03:43
jmerlinlexmark z2503:43
jmerlinz25-z3503:43
ArrenLexSame thing.03:43
jmerlinyes i did03:43
jmerlinthey don't have lexmarks.03:43
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jmerlinlexmark's site has one for redhat03:43
jmerlini alien'ed the rpms03:43
holycowuh ... *hnmmm* actually lexmarks are known to work03:43
jmerlinand then installed the debs.. but even after configuring a new printer with the installed driver it doesn't print03:44
jmerlinso i dont know03:44
holycowhttp://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z3503:44
holycowah03:44
holycowforget it03:44
holycowyou need a new printer03:44
holycowbtw... yo umight be interested in brother printers and multifunction units03:44
holycownot only do they have linux drivers03:45
holycowthey have debian installers03:45
holycowand03:45
holycowtheir drivers are gpl03:45
ArrenLexholycow: he doesn't seem to need a new printer. He seems to need a binary driver.03:45
holycowwe are testing them here actually03:45
jsleeperdumb question - in command line how can i see if a certain package is installed?03:45
jmerlinif i call lexmark they may be able to get it running03:45
dave___how do I get apt-get to just download the file without installing ?03:45
jmerlinthey offer linux binaries on their site03:45
jsleeperi'm still learning apt - used to portage03:45
dave___i need the .deb files to bring over to another computer03:45
jmerlinso they should go through setting it up with me on a debian system03:45
holycowArrenLex, i'm aware of that ... i'm simply suggesting its cheaper to buy a new printer than it is to spend 4 days figuring out its a paperweight03:45
holycowwe are talking about $100 printers03:46
slopwhat does == mean in python?03:46
holycownot 5000$ printers03:46
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jmerlini don't have money for a new printer03:46
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madewokherdslop: equal value03:46
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jmerlini'm a student living in an apartment working part time03:46
slopmadewokherd, thanks03:46
jmerlinmoney is rare.03:46
ArrenLexjmerlin: have you seen this? http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:337:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=1242&searchLang=en&searchLang=en03:46
jmerlinyes03:46
wickedpuppyslop, really ... this is #ubuntu ... and == is comparison see if the two vales are the same03:46
jstarcherhey guys03:46
Djuussthen its time to print at college (hope im not bumping in)03:47
holycowjmerlin, *nod* i understand completely.  i wish i could help i don't know how to help with printers known not to work :/03:47
ArrenLexjmerlin: what happened to that?03:47
jmerlindoesn't work03:47
holycowi think we had some z75's or something for a while but those all  basically died03:47
slopwickedpuppy, i know this is #ubuntu03:47
fgh_loi already own a domain and i have a dynamic ip. how can i point that domain to my ip? dns?03:47
holycowso we dropped the brand03:47
jmerlinthe listed OS's work fine, they've been tested on03:47
jmerlinbut on debian.. nope03:47
jmerlinno support =\03:47
wickedpuppyslop, then pls ask python questions in #python next time03:47
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ArrenLexjmerlin: not supported does not mean does not work.03:48
Madpilotfgh_lo, didn't you ask that question - and get an answer - about half an hour ago?03:48
slopwickedpuppy, i didn't know there was a #python.  thanks :)03:48
DjuussHey im running 5.04 right now, what did i have to type again to upgrade the distro?03:48
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jmerlinmeans it will take manual installation and manual conf editing to make it work03:48
jmerlinlol03:48
Djuussapt-get distupgrade iirc?03:48
jmerlinif i can get it to work though, i can make a .deb file and put it up on the multiverse03:48
Madpilotubotu, tell Djuuss about upgrade03:48
jmerlinso people can just apt-get it and be happy03:48
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Djuussthx madpilot03:48
fgh_loMadpilot: i want to know if i can setup my own dns that will point my ip to my domain03:48
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jmerlinhmm..03:49
jmerlinthis is weird03:49
CVirusAnybody managed to get the Wireless Broadcom 4311 chipset working with Linux ?03:49
jmerlinthe print jobs went through to the job queue03:49
jmerlini can see them03:49
jmerlinbut they say "stopped"03:49
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Madpilotjmerlin, please stop using your Enter key as punctuation...03:50
jmerlin=(03:50
shriphaniMadpilot, my drivrefuses to be partitionede03:51
shriphaniso i need help with it03:51
highnekoHow can I remove all these little messages that popup when my mouse goes over things?03:51
dave___is there a website I can download the .deb files that are in the repository for use on another computer?03:51
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ArrenLexdave: packages.ubuntu.com03:52
Madpilotshriphani, I know very little about partitioning - all the partitioning I've done so far has 'just worked', so I haven't needed to learn... sorry03:52
dave___ahhhh03:52
dave___thank you03:52
shriphaniheh03:52
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shriphanibut the installer cant partition03:53
ArrenLexDebian is life.03:53
bimberidave___: btw, if your "main" computer is being kept up to date, the .deb files will have been downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives03:53
wickedpuppyshriphani, ubuntu and debian ? why ? they are the same03:53
ArrenLexshripani: does it give some sort of error?03:53
shriphaniArrenLex, yes03:53
ArrenLexwickedpuppy: they are most certainly not the same.03:53
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shriphaniwickedpuppy, i want to try it03:53
holycowactually they are very very much the same03:54
ArrenLexshrip: what error, exactly? xD03:54
ArrenLexholycow: similar. But certainly not the same.03:54
wickedpuppylol03:54
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shriphaniFor some unknown reason this drive cccnot be partitioned03:54
holycowArrenLex, i cannot agree with that at all but on a technicality03:54
holycowthey 'are not' binary compatable but for some reasons not obvious to new users03:55
jmerlinhas anyone here ever had to make a ubuntu linux install authenticate through a windows AD?03:55
holycowthat is ubuntu 'freezes' off of debian unstable every 6 months03:55
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Djuusshaha this is gonna take ages, gotta upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, then from 5.10 to 6.0603:55
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Celestehi03:55
CelesteI just installed "ubuntu-desktop"  on  "kubuntu"03:56
shriphani!hi03:56
ubotuHi! Welcome to $chan!03:56
Celestewhen I press  ALT+F2  nothing happens03:56
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holycowthe freeze simply creates a situation where you will end up with base system config variability ... so yeah they are different, but not in the classic 'distro' sense imho03:56
shriphaniCeleste, you need to log out03:56
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Celesteshriphani, I logged out,  gdm started instead of kdm (as wished) and gnome is running03:56
Djuusswhy is it bad to just put the dapper repo's right away and upgrade 5.04 --> 6.06?03:56
shriphanioh03:56
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Celestethen I pressed ALT+F2  to get a command line like input window for starting programs03:56
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jmerlinwhatever, i'll figure it out later03:57
Celesteis it a misconfiguration or a package error?03:57
jmerlini'll figure it out on my boss's time when i'm getitng paid to do so :>03:57
shriphanignome-terminal is bad ?03:57
jmerlinoff to play ET03:57
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Celestethe terminal works03:58
Celesteshriphani, You do not know what I am talking about, right?03:58
wickedpuppyCeleste, you logged out .. then you log in ?03:58
shriphanitrue Celeste03:58
fgh_look. new question. how can i setup a dns on my box?03:58
Celesteyes wickedpuppy03:58
wickedpuppyCeleste, after changing from gnome to kde ?03:58
Celesteshriphani, what happens when you press ALT+F2 on your keyboard?03:58
shriphanii get a prompt03:58
Celestewickedpuppy, from kde to gnome03:58
shriphaniconsole to be precise03:58
Djuussceleste did you try xorgconfig?03:59
Celesteshriphani, ok, I want to get a prompt too03:59
wickedpuppykde to gnome ? then surely gnome will load ...03:59
shriphanium03:59
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shriphaniwickedpuppy, gnome loaded03:59
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Celesteis my english really so bad?03:59
wickedpuppyyah .. and the problem is ?03:59
shriphanishe/he/it wants to work from console03:59
rylasasinuh hey how do you get easyubuntu?03:59
Celesteno I do not want!!!03:59
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Celesteonce more:03:59
wickedpuppyno .. you log out .. changed from kde to gnome ... and you log in and gnome loads03:59
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AWOSDevI want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear Waveform sounds but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?04:00
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JamesFosterDoes anyone know how many Ubuntu users there currently is, worldwide?04:00
wickedpuppyJamesFoster, ask mark shuttleworth04:00
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DjuussCeleste could you explain what the problem is? You installed ubuntu-desktop over kubuntu, and now gnome loads. What's wrong with that?04:01
AWOSDevJamesFoster, no but there are 855 in here :)04:01
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CelesteOS: "Kubuntu" ...  installed:  "gnome-desktop"  via aptitude.   CTRL+ALT+BACK ....  "gdm" started instead of "kdm"  because "gnome-desktop" has been installed.   I logged in with GNOME as my Desktop Environment04:01
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Celestenow I want to get a prompt when I press ALT+F204:01
Celestebut nothing happens04:01
Celesteyes, I *could* open a shell04:01
wickedpuppyCeleste, ctrl-alt-f2 ?04:01
Celestebut I want this  ALT+F2 prompt04:01
JamesFosterCanonical must know, right? They can look at how many times updates are downloaded/checked for.04:01
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Djuussahhhhhh i get it04:01
AWOSDevWickedPuppy, in KDE, when you press ALT+F2, the "Run Command" box comes up04:01
Celestewickedpuppy, CTRL+ALT+F2  brings me back to a text shell04:01
Celestewickedpuppy, a non X one04:02
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wickedpuppyAWOSDev, ah i see04:02
fluvvellcan anyone point me to the howto for adding dictionaries to openoffice?04:02
wickedpuppyi do not use kde .. pardon me04:02
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CelesteI USE GNOME04:02
fluvvellI've seen it before but google is being stubborn04:02
wickedpuppyso do i ...04:02
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AWOSDevwickedpuppy, I use KDE  ;)04:02
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wickedpuppyAWOSDev, well .. help him :P04:02
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Djuussboth KDE and GNOME give a X single line command window when pressing alt+F2, much like windows gives when pressing <windows>+r04:02
AWOSDevYeah but I hate GNOME so I have no clue.04:02
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wickedpuppyAWOSDev, i don't use kde so i got no clue04:03
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Djuussbut for celeste it doesnt show up now that she moved from kde to gnome04:03
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AWOSDevThere's a problem then :)04:03
wickedpuppybtw when i press alt-f2 i get run command ...04:03
razorbuzzIs anyone else having issues with Bon Echo in the Edgy beta?  The address bar doesn't work.. I have to type URL's into the google search box to go anywhere.  Typing them into the address bar does nothing when I hit enter or click the arrow04:03
tonyyarussorazorbuzz: Works fine here atm.04:04
wickedpuppyCeleste, go to System -> preference - >keyboard shortcuts ... and see if alt-f2 is linked to run command dialogue04:04
razorbuzztonyyarusso, Thanks for the reply.  Not the answer I wanted...'cause now it means it's something specific to my system LOL04:04
tonyyarussorazorbuzz: Perhaps anyway.04:05
wickedpuppyrazor1394, for edgy pls go to #ubuntu+104:05
wolfjbI'm getting an error with gsfonts-x11, 'unrecognized option' followed by update-fonts-dir DIRECTORY. apt-get won't continue until I get this resolved, but I can not hold/uninstall/purge this package, any hints on how to overcome this?04:05
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razorbuzzwickedpuppy, On my way.  Thanks04:05
ArrenLexfluvvell: for adding dictionaries to openoffice, if you still need it: File - Wizards - Install New Dictionaries04:05
hbcwhere would i find my kernel version listed please04:05
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Celestewickedpuppy: there is no "run command"04:05
wickedpuppyuname -a04:05
Celestewickedpuppy, so no entry for that04:05
aediniusorion2012: I'm stalking you, now.04:05
wickedpuppyCeleste, then pls kindly add it04:05
CelesteLinux box 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux04:05
wickedpuppyno no04:05
wickedpuppyCeleste, not you04:05
wickedpuppyits for hbc04:06
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hbcthanx04:06
wickedpuppyCeleste, go to System -> preference - >keyboard shortcuts ... and see if alt-f2 is linked to run command dialogue <-- for you Celeste04:06
wolfjbuname -r gets just the kernel version (2.6.15-26-386 in the above case)04:06
hbcI'll try that04:06
Celestewickedpuppy, I found it - yes it is lnked04:06
wickedpuppywell and it doesn't work ?04:06
DjuussHey does anyone know voice recognition software? I wanna be able to just yell 'play'  at my box instead of having to click rhythmbox manually04:06
hbccheers wickedpuppy04:06
Celesteyes wickedpuppy04:07
orion2012aedinius: OT chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic04:07
fluvvellArrenLex, thanks - that sounds a little different to last time - I'll go have a bash at it.04:07
Celestedoes not work04:07
rixthAre programs like users-admin written in python?04:07
pooliehas anyone else seen the postinst for xserver-xorg looping endlessly?04:07
wickedpuppyhbc, as wolfjb pointed out , uname -r does the job too .. man uname for more info :P04:07
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wickedpuppyCeleste, i suggest you restart the whole com ... if that doesn't work then remove the shortcut and add it again04:08
ArrenLexDjuss: I have not managed to find a decent Text-to-Speech for Linux, let alone a transcriber. Good luck. Tell me if you find something.04:08
wickedpuppyif that doesn't work then pls curse the gnome devs04:08
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Djuussnah i hate text to speech04:08
ArafangionArrenLex: Which one have you tried?04:08
Djuussarrenlex, i want voice operation, not text to speech04:08
ArafangionArrenLex: And what doesn't work?04:08
hbcah, I see04:09
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knixIs anyone here using ElectricSheep? It refuses to run with --root 1 for some reason therefore not displaying as a screensaver04:09
AWOSDevArrenLex, I find that ktts works well :)04:09
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amicrawlehello how do you download from irc?04:09
Djuussif all else fails, yell 'restart' , which is linked to shutdown -rf now04:09
Djuussthat kind of thing, anyone know a nice app?04:09
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knixDjuuss: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux%20voice%20recognition04:10
ArrenLexArafagnion: I have not found ANY speech-to-text or speech-command or voice recognition apps for Linux. At all.04:10
gpledis their a synaptic package to install java for firefox?04:10
Madpilotgpled, yes04:10
Madpilotubotu, tell gpled about java04:10
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hbcand what is the man pages command for compiling kernel? is there one?04:11
mister_robotoArrenLex: haven't found ANY or any you like. kttsd and ksayit are there04:11
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halex-abhbc: don't believe there is one, no..04:11
hbcok04:12
hbccheers04:12
w30Djuuss, maybe you can find a usb clap on light and adapt it.04:12
ArafangionArrenLex: That's completely different.04:12
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lufisWhat Bash command will take a bunch of files and divide them up into different folders?04:12
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ArafangionArrenLex: Are you talking about text-to-speech, or speech-to-text?04:12
x_Oanyone in here using Edgy??04:13
wickedpuppylufis, thats a very .. general question04:13
mister_robotox_O: yes04:13
DjuussOk if anyone else was looking for voice recognition (be it commands or text to speech), this article helps: http://applications.linux.com/applications/05/01/18/2148234.shtml04:13
|thunderx_O; try #ubuntu+104:13
lufiswickedpuppy: Well :P Did i phrase it badly?04:13
tonyyarussox_O: Yeah.  And more in ^^ that channel04:13
wickedpuppyits like how to divide people and put them in different room ? can you answer that ?04:13
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sproingiedivide by what criteria, i think he's asking04:13
x_Othanks04:13
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sproingieand there's no one command that'll do that, though it'd be an easy loop04:14
Djuusslufis, are you by any chance referring to your mp3 collection?04:14
lufiswickedpuppy: I have a bunch of images in a directory, but Eye of Gnome crashes every time it tries to load them all (meh). It doesn't load them recursively though, so if I could just divide them all up into like 200 per folder, it wouldn't crash04:14
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gravesonanyone know,where i can find a guide to access my pc remotely from the internet(Securely) using FTP or SSH ?04:14
x_ONo one is alive in there though. Sigh.04:14
wickedpuppyi suppose you can find with exec ... like find . -name *.txt -exec rm -rf {};04:15
mister_robotolufis: ahhh.. the old problematic pr0n folder04:15
sethkgraveson, accessing via ssh is so easy, I doubt you'll find a guide for it04:15
lufismister_roboto: Yes. :P04:15
sethkgraveson, it's two minutes04:15
x_ODo you guys use XGL, or Beryl ... or ... emeral theme .... manager ... dealios ... anything like that?04:15
sethkgraveson, on the server, install the package  openssh-server04:15
wickedpuppy200 per folder ... hmms ... that will require a shell script ..04:15
wickedpuppy!beryl04:15
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ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.04:15
sethkgraveson, then, that's it.  you're done.  use ssh on the client.  (If it's windows use ssh from cygwin, although many people use putty which is just as good but not my personal preference)04:15
DjuussWickedpuppy, what would you recommend, beryl or xgl04:15
bdragonmslWhich kernel is best for an amd64 x2 4800 in 6.10?04:16
TeriI have a question about OpenSSL.  I'm somewhat new to linux. when I set up my win2k server, I remember paying a company (i think it was verisign) for a certificate.  I've read a few tutorials on creating a certificate on ubuntu and it appears that they are instructions on how to create a certificate without a 3rd party company...I like the sound of that.  I'm reading it correctly or do I indeed need to use a 3rd party company?  I'm only04:16
Teri running a web server for my family to use wordpress, etc. so I've always hated paying for a cert...04:16
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wickedpuppyDjuuss, i used xgl before .. on sled .. so can't tell ya what to use on ubuntu ... xgl is good though but you need nvidia whatever you use04:16
wickedpuppyati sux04:16
gravesonsethk: is that it, do  i need to know my NAT address04:16
ArafangionTeri: The reason why you need to pay for a cert is because of the "Chain of trust".04:16
sethkgraveson, you also get sftp and scp as a no cost bonus.04:17
ArrenLexTeri: you pay for certificates when you want other people to trust you.04:17
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bdragonmslyeah, I have nvidia, but it tells me I need a different kernel04:17
sethkgraveson, you need to know your public address, yes, to log in from the 'net04:17
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AWOSDevTeri, you can create your own certificate in Windows 2000 by promoting your server to "Enterprise Certificate Authority"04:17
Djuussya no worries, as long as its *really* 3d-accelerated, my cpu isnt exactly top of the line04:17
sethkgraveson, there are a bunch of web sites that will tell you your public IP if you don't know it.04:17
gpledMadpilot: thanks, will try it out04:17
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wickedpuppyDjuuss, then why not try both ?04:17
sethkgraveson, and, if you order right now, at absolutely no cost ...  :)04:17
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gravesonsethk: is sftp as simple04:17
nex_does anyone know if there is an AMD X2 driver for i386 dapper?04:17
gravesonsethk: :)04:17
Arafangiongraveson: Most people use scp04:17
sethkgraveson, yes, because it uses the same binaries as ssh.04:17
TeriI don't care about other people" trusting" my server.... I wish I knew this a year ago...would have saved me some cash04:18
nex_Teri what's up?04:18
gravesonthanks guys04:18
hbcI know my kernel version, where would it be located please?04:18
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sethkArafangion, not in my experience, but it doesn't matter which you use.  they are both thin wrappers around ssh04:18
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sethkhbc, uname -r04:18
Arafangionsethk: Fair enough. :)04:18
Terinex_, nuttin04:18
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Arafangionsethk: I find most ftp clients confusing, anyway ;)04:18
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VoukshWhat could be the reason behind my install stopping at 22gnome_panel_data?04:18
lastnodewhat is a .pb file and how can i open it in ubuntu>04:18
katecan anyone here help me with americas army?04:18
wickedpuppykate, osama can04:19
qatsiif i do a ifconfig and my card is listed there, does it mean that its correctly installed ?04:19
Arafangionlastnode: It could be anything.04:19
sethkArafangion, they can be.  depends.  a person used to using ftp, who hasn't used rcp, takes easily to sftp.  depends on what you are used to, I guess.04:19
hbcno, what directory would it be in?04:19
geekchic9-1wickedpuppy: lol04:19
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nex_anyone know where i can get desktop widgets?04:19
Arafangionlastnode: Traditionally, the "extension" is meaningless by itself on Linux and Unix systems.04:19
sethkgraveson, sftp is just:   sftp username@ip04:19
fuocohi, question: if i install a deb file manually, outside of a repo, does it break in some way the consistency of the package management ? would it make a difference when trying to uninstall stuff later etc... ?04:19
katenvm04:19
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TeriAWDSDev, so.... just to clarify, is this promoting my server just simply settings, or does this require a cost?04:19
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qatsisethk: back again, with more network issues....04:19
Arafangionlastnode: It does have semantic meaning to humans, though.04:19
sethkgraveson, very easy.  and cygwin is nice because the windows side and the unix side use exactly the same syntax, in either direction.04:19
jordan_nex_ try gdesklets for gnome04:19
nex_i'm looking for the one that has processes, cpu, ram, etc...04:19
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sethkqatsi, what type of issues?04:19
nex_anyone know what i'm talking about?04:19
lastnodeArafangion, of course. what i mean is, it generally denotes the file type04:20
sethknex_, top04:20
lastnode!batcave-bink Hemingway, Ernest - The Old Man And The Sea & Notes(txt).rar04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about batcave-bink Hemingway, Ernest - The Old Man And The Sea & Notes(txt).rar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
lastnodeshoot04:20
nex_sethk, top?04:20
Arafangionlastnode: Only by convention.04:20
AWOSDevTeri, free.04:20
bimberifuoco: no, if it installed without any force- options it should be fine04:20
lastnodeArafangion, yeah i know. is it a publisher file?04:20
Arafangionlastnode: Unix uses "Magic numbers" to denote file types, instead.04:20
qatsisethk: after all the yada yada of the modules, if i do a ifconfig, i get some information about the network card, but i dont get an ip...04:20
jordan_nex_ that is the terminal application for seeing CPU usage ( top ).04:20
sethknex_, not a widget, but does all that stuff.  I know the KDE desktop widgets, because I'm a kde user.   They exist for gnome also.04:20
NimweiHow do I configure a Samba user to have access to delete, rename, and modify files on a share? Currently the user is only able to read the files.04:20
rylasasinok dude how do I get easy ubuntu04:21
fuocobimberi: ok thanks. i assume the only down side then is that i won't get updates for that package ?04:21
TeriAWDSDev.  wow am I dumb04:21
lastnodeArafangion, im aware of all this. i just asked what a .pb file usually is.04:21
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nex_ok,04:21
jordan_nex_ do you want it in the title bar?04:21
Arafangionlastnode: So, one uses "file", which looks at the first two bytes, which is hte magic number. (Shell scripts start with #!, which corresponds to the two-byte magic number)04:21
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sethkqatsi, what happens if you bring up the network-admin dialog, select the interface, click disable, and then click enable?  do you get an IP?04:21
mister_robotolastnode: did you google for it?04:21
sethkqatsi, that makes sense only if you are using DHCP.04:21
bimberifuoco: no, unless it appears in your repositories later :)04:21
nex_well there is one i already tried for the title bar04:21
qatsirylasasin: google is your friend...easyubuntu.freecontrib.org04:21
nex_but it only displays one of my cpus04:21
lastnodeArafangion, mate, you're preaching to the choir ;-)04:21
VoukshI'm having some trouble with installing Xubuntu on my laptop. During install, it stops at 79% trying to run "22gnome_panel_data"04:21
qatsisethk: yes i am using, let me check04:21
nex_that's why i was asking if there is a driver for amd x204:21
Madpilotw30, they ban people for friendly fire in AA?04:22
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nex_xause it only shows one cpu04:22
fuocobimberi: that was my next question, what happens if it appears in the repo later ?04:22
Arafangionlastnode: I'd suggest either google, or file, or just doubleclicking on it as a guest user, to see what the mime type is.04:22
jordan_nex_ are you sure both your CPUs are being used?04:22
sethknex_, there are definitely widgets around that work with multiple CPUs.04:22
TeriAWDSDev, do you know where can I read about the "concepts" of SSL certificates so I don't make the same mistakes?04:22
wickedpuppylastnode, i was in choir .. pls don't insult us :P04:22
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sethknex_, jordan_ has a good question04:22
AWOSDevTeri, not dumb, just a littler, uneducated.  :)04:22
lastnodewickedpuppy, it's called a figure of speech04:22
sethknex_, do   cat /proc/cpuinfo04:22
nex_good question indeed04:22
w30Madpilot, you get thrown in the stockade and that's it.04:22
nex_ok let me see04:22
TeriAWDSDev :-)04:22
wickedpuppylastnode, :) would show i also understand that ...04:22
bimberifuoco: if it's a later version in the repo it will offer to upgrade04:22
qatsisethk: my network card is listed there and it says that eth0 is active...04:22
lastnodeArafangion, i havent downloaded it yet, else id do 'file' on it. :-) im wondering if ill need any proprietary reader to read it, in which case i wont download it. ill google, thanks.04:23
nex_nope04:23
AWOSDev I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear the Waveform sounds but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?04:23
nex_apparently only 104:23
nex_cpuid level : 104:23
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nex_processor: 004:23
nex_no more04:23
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sethkqatsi, ok, but deactivate, then click activate.04:23
NimweiSAMBA: How do I give a user FULL RIGHTS to a share?04:23
AWOSDevnex_, CPUID level 1?  processor 0?  that's like a 486...04:23
jordan_nex_ Are you using an SMP kernel?04:23
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mister_robotolastnode: try filext.com for tracking down file extensions04:23
sethkqatsi, that will force it to request an IP from dhcp again04:23
vulcaniumhey guys04:23
w30Madpilot, I did it on the rifle range so they didn't like it.04:23
nex_SMP kernel?04:23
lastnodemister_roboto, just found it :-)04:23
nex_<--noob04:23
Madpilotw30, heh04:23
sethkqatsi, if it gets one, then we have one type of problem.  if it doesn't, then we have a different type of problem04:23
Djuussofftopic: in xchat, what do i type to start a private conversation with someone? like, <private conversation command> ubotu 'Hi bot!'04:23
qatsisethk: i cant deactivate or activate :S04:24
NimweiDjuuss: type /msg <nick> <msg>04:24
AWOSDevDjuuss, /query04:24
VoukshWhat could be the reason behind my install stopping at 22gnome_panel_data?04:24
nex_i'm using i386 version of dapper, cause 64 bit would lock up during install04:24
sethknex_, the default kernel is SMP.  symmetric multi-processing, aka more than one cpu04:24
Djuussok thx04:24
jordan_nex_ You need a specific kernel to use multi core CPUs.04:24
vulcaniumI installed ubuntu for the first time today04:24
nex_ok04:24
Arafangionlastnode: Remember, if it's publisher, realise that even the specific _version_ matters. :(04:24
wickedpuppyDjuuss, are you using xchat ?04:24
sethkqatsi, can't?  why not?  you did start it as root, I assume?04:24
nex_how would i get that specific kernel?04:24
w30Madpilot, I just wonder how real the game was so I found out. :=)04:24
qatsisethk: wait, its activating...hehe :p04:24
Arafangionlastnode: MS isn't even compatible with _themselves_. :(04:24
sethkqatsi, that's better.  :)04:24
vulcaniumone minor issue seems to be that there isn't a propper graphics driver isntalled04:24
vulcaniumIE, I can't go above 1024x76804:24
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qatsisethk: ok, now i have an ip...:p hehe04:25
jordan_sethk, Although people told me the default kernel is smp, I wasn't getting support for both cores until I installed the SMP kernel package.04:25
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sethkvulcanium, that may be the graphics driver, but it also may be misidentification of the monitor.04:25
lastnodeArafangion, it's wordperfect, and im skipping the download. :-) thanks04:25
Djuusswickedpuppy ye04:25
nex_jordan_ how do i get the SMP kernel package?04:25
sethkjordan_, interesting.  I build my own kernel, so I wouldn't have seen the problem.04:25
vulcaniumsethk, any way to force a resolution?04:25
Madpilotw30, good thing I play Enemy Territory instead - when I started playing that, about a year ago, I spent the first two games or so shooting everyone, until I got auto-kicked for friendly fire and started to figure stuff out :D04:25
vulcaniumI have a 7800gt btw04:25
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Arafangionlastnode: It's _possible_ that OOo can open such files.04:25
nex_sethk, how would i go by solving my problem?04:25
sethkjordan_, first thing I do, with all the distros, is replace the kernel with one downloaded from kernel.org.  Which just about everyone here objects to, but it works.04:26
VoukshGrrr. Can ANYONE help me with my install problem?04:26
jordan_nex_ You can do it using synaptic, hold on and I'll find the package name.04:26
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wickedpuppyDjuuss, pls right click on my nick and choose the dialogue option ... there is no need to type :P04:26
vulcaniumI was looking into how to install the latest driver but I got totaly lose04:26
vulcaniumlost*04:26
sethknex_, when you do   uname -a      do you see SMP anywhere in the output?04:26
nex_jordan_, thanks04:26
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sethkvulcanium, can you paste your X log to the paste web site?04:26
AWOSDevDjuuss, if you switch to Konversation you can just click a nick to begin a query :)04:26
nex_no04:26
w30Madpilot, ha! I can't get through basic qualification on America's Army.04:26
lastnodeArafangion, id rather not use proprietary file extensions04:26
jordan_sethk_ I don't see why anyone would object.04:26
nex_sethk, no i don't04:26
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sethkvulcanium, it's named Xorg.0.log04:26
sethkvulcanium, in /var/log04:26
Arafangionlastnode: Oooh! A fundamentalist! Cool :)04:26
nex_/home/icons/pCircle-2404:26
vulcaniumsethk, I would, but I'm in windows right now04:26
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lastnode:-)04:27
nex_/home/icons/pDebian-2404:27
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nex_/home/icons/pGentoo-2404:27
SilentDissonancehello04:27
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VoukshHello, am I being ignored?04:27
nex_/home/icons/pSlackware-2404:27
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sethknex_, I'd start by going into synaptic and looking at the kernel packages, and picking one with smp in the name (for your architecture, of course)04:27
nex_/home/icons/pSuse-2404:27
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sethkVouksh, not sure, did you ask a question?04:27
nex_/home/icons/pTux-2404:27
DjuussWickedpuppy, i'm not into cyber. AWOSDev, i know, xchat has that too, but i did /stats p to get freenode staffers, but it turned up non-clickable nicks.04:27
Voukshyea04:27
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sethkVouksh, lot of traffic tonight, please ask it again.04:27
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mister_robotonex_: wtf?04:27
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nex_oops04:27
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satrac#perl04:27
vulcaniumis pretty damn quick in here tonight04:28
vulcaniumlol04:28
sethkvulcanium, best thing to do is look at the log.  otherwise, we are just guessing.04:28
Madpilotnex_, I'll un-mute you in a minute or two04:28
jordan_nex_ linux-686-smp04:28
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sethkvulcanium, with the log we can tell you immediately what's going on, and hopefully how to fix it.04:28
Voukshsethk, I'm having trouble with the installer. it keeps stopping at 79% saying it's running "22gnome_panel_data"04:28
vulcaniumsethk, understood.04:28
vulcaniumI'm so used to windows.... and log files are pretty foreign to me heh04:28
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sethkVouksh, did you do the media validation?04:28
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NimweiSAMBA: How do I give a user FULL RIGHTS to a share?04:28
Arafangionvulcanium: I don't even know _how_ to get the logs on windows.04:29
Voukshhmm, nope. i'll try that first04:29
sethkVouksh, sounds like a bad cd, either a bad burn, or possibly a bad download.  check the MD5SUM of the download, if you haven't already, and then try to validate the cd.04:29
Djuusslol somehow i started this IRC in root..04:29
SilentDissonancehello, i just installed a new vid card, and am having problems getting x to start.04:29
vulcaniumArafangion, exactly. haha04:29
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Djuussbut this beeing ubuntu, there is not even a root account04:29
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vulcaniumoh really?04:29
vulcaniumhows that work?04:29
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sethkDjuuss, that is not true04:29
jordan_SilentDissonance, what type of card?04:29
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SilentDissonanceGeForce 7600GS04:30
suff0katehow do u run a .rb i do it but it doesn't recognize it04:30
sethkDjuuss, two things.  first, it will not even begin to run without a root account.  second, nothing in ubuntu is different about root compared with all other linux distros.04:30
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sethkDjuuss, that's a myth, as you have obviously discovered.04:30
suff0kateand i installed the ruby package04:30
SilentDissonancereports "No screens found" in the error logs04:30
qatsisethk: ok, ill try to log in with the other computer :P lets hope it works04:30
wickedpuppysuff0kate, ruby file.rb04:30
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sethkDjuuss, with the default installation options (and _only_ with the default installation options), the root password is not set.04:30
Madpilotnex_, you should be back now04:30
suff0katei know04:30
rixthAre programs like users-admin written in python?04:30
sethkDjuuss, which is _not_ the same as not having a root account04:30
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suff0katehow do you run those in terminal04:30
sethkrixth, some are.04:30
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wickedpuppysuff0kate, i told ya .. ruby file.rb04:30
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sethkDjuuss, if you do    ps aux      you'll see bunches of programs running in the root account04:30
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jordan_SilentDissonance, Have you tried anything to get it working yet?04:31
rixthsethk, stylin' I'll take a look04:31
mister_robotogrep root /etc/passwd04:31
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AWOSDevDjuuss, actually do ps aux | grep root, else you'll see hundreds and hundreds of lines :)04:31
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vulcaniumI need some advice on how to organize my hard drive as far as making my data accessable in both linux and windows04:31
AWOSDev I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear the KDE sounds (Waveform) but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?04:31
Djuusswell ok i prefer sudo su over constantly typing sudo before apt-get install, i'm just puzzled how i managed to start xchat in root by clicking it in the gnome menu04:31
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wickedpuppyvulcanium, put a new partition between the two OS ... thats my fav plan ..04:32
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bdragonmslcan anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers in 6.1004:32
AWOSDevDjuuss, well did you start GNOME as root?  LOL04:32
SilentDissonancejordan_:  i attempted a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... but it appears it's not detecting the monitor.  sees the nvidia card fine, and 'chooses' that for me04:32
wickedpuppyDjuuss, xchat in root is waiting to be rooted04:32
jordan_Djuss, check that the menu item doesn't use gksudo.04:32
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vulcaniumwhat file system wickedpuppy ?04:32
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Djuusswell this is my first startup, it went a bit bumpy04:32
AWOSDevwickedpuppy, well yeah but I used to run xchat as root on my SuSE system.  no firewall too :P04:32
wickedpuppyvulcanium, fat32 .. then i dump my mp3s in side there04:32
Djuussi remember typing sudo startx at some point04:33
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wickedpuppyAWOSDev, hmms .... i remember you .. you were the one with all the pr0ns!!!! :P04:33
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vulcaniumdoesn't fat32 have some really anyoing partition size limits or something?04:33
sethkDjuuss, that's not necessarily wrong, although it's not the most common way to start X.04:33
VoukshIs there any kind of CLI installer for ubuntu?04:33
AWOSDevDjuuss yeah sudo startx would make GNOME run as root04:33
sethkVouksh, yes04:33
sethkVouksh, on the alternate cd, use the text mode install04:33
cynikalVouksh: the alternate cd04:33
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AWOSDevwickedpuppy, you must have confused me with another AWOSDev as I only went into #OSDev.  :)04:33
Terijoin #apache04:33
wickedpuppyvulcanium, yah .. but i use it to transfer files ... just a temp place for files that needed in both OS .. but a storage partition04:33
Voukshsethk & cynikal, thanks. i'll look into that if i can't get this working04:34
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AWOSDevTeri huh?  why?04:34
vulcaniumah04:34
TeriAWDSDev, oops04:34
vulcaniumwell this wouldhave to be permanent storage for all my docs, pictures, and CDs04:34
vulcaniumall ripped in lossless04:34
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CaptainMorgansorry for the ot, but anyone know off hand fast firewire is? google's being complicated.. or it's just me04:34
jordan_SilentDissonance, If you have installed the proprietary nvidea drivers then I have no idea, you can try using vesa for basic functionality.04:34
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VoukshI'm too used to Gentoo, and Ubuntu seems really... different for some reason04:34
TeriAWDSDev...I have questions on Apache204:34
Madpilotnex_, you should be OK to talk now04:34
wickedpuppyvulcanium, then ah ... ntfs .. but surely you should know why i don't use ntfs04:34
AWOSDevTeri, just FYI... I'm AW O SDev with an O as in Octopus...not04:34
TeriAWDSDev...are you educated on apaech?04:35
vulcaniumyeah... you can't wrtie from within linux then04:35
jordan_nex_ linux-686-smp04:35
vulcaniumwhat if I used ext304:35
sethkVouksh, not really significantly different.  just details.  gentoo makes many gratuitous changes to what is normally done, just to be different.04:35
AWOSDevTeri, yeah04:35
SilentDissonancejordan_: i haven't installed any drivers as of yet... other than chosen "nv" from the list available when reconfiguring x.04:35
AWOSDevTeri, PM me04:35
vulcaniumand then used a viertual driver in windows?04:35
sethkvulcanium, there are ext2/3 drivers available for windows04:35
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Djuussvulcanium either ntfs, or get windows drivers for ext3. you can write ntfs, but its rumored not to be stable04:35
sethkvulcanium, no virtual driver, there is a real driver04:35
Teriawosdev... now I see the  O04:35
mister_robotoCaptainMorgan: i googled "firewire transfer speed" and it was the top hit04:35
nex_it's telling me in synaptic that it's for Intel cpus04:35
AWOSDevTeri :)04:35
vulcaniumwell, whatever you want to call04:35
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wickedpuppyvulcanium, same .. you got to fix windows to recognise ext304:35
w30vulcanium, it's got a file size limit but I don't remember what. Databases get in trouble with it.04:35
SilentDissonancethe problem, it appears, is the monitor is for some reason, isn't detected and won't register on the xclient :P04:35
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vulcaniumwhat are the limitations with fat32 exactly?  from what I'm reading it is just the 2 gig file size limit04:36
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sethkSilentDissonance, reconfigure, and override the monitor selection with "generic monitor capable of"...04:36
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vulcaniumor 4 gig rather04:36
sethkSilentDissonance, you'll find that in the _middle_ difficulty level of the monitor configuration in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:36
Voukshvulcanium, it only allows up to 32GB partitions04:36
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AWOSDevvulcanium, well yeah 4GB file limit.  The only other limit would be 2TB partitions.04:36
nex_jordan_ does it work with AMD x2? cause it says in synaptic that it's intel04:37
Djuusspersonally i write NTFS from linux all the time, works fine04:37
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VoukshAWOSDev, I thought it was 32GB?04:37
TeriAwosdev....pm'ed you... you still here?04:37
jordan_nex_ I honestly don't know :)04:37
Madpilotright, enough spam from me for now :)04:37
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nex_are you running it?04:37
vulcaniumwell thats not too bad04:37
AWOSDevTeri yes but I didn't get it04:37
vulcaniumI can deal with that04:37
AWOSDevhold on04:37
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sethkDjuuss, there are known cases where there are major problems, so it's best to warn people about that.04:37
vulcaniumI don't have anything larger than 2 gig typically04:37
jordan_nex_ with a core duo.04:37
sethkDjuuss, it's quite possible to not see something for days, months, even years, yet it is still there and still a serious problem.04:38
THX-1138Hi Madpilot04:38
AWOSDevVouksh, 2TiB per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT3204:38
Djuussyeh i was gonna say ' dont quote me on it' but synaptic needed my attention04:38
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AWOSDevoh and vulcanium, you should read that too -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT3204:38
Teriawosdev...i'm replying in the pm window.... are you not seeing my typing/msgs?04:38
vulcaniumkk04:38
nex_jordan_ that wouldn't work for me04:38
Djuussif you want *stable* cross-OS storage, get some windows drivers for ext204:38
AWOSDevTeri: no...did you get my "Can you see me?" message?04:38
SilentDissonanceok, tried that... I still get 'no devices detected'.... it's like it can't 'see' my monitor for some reason04:38
Teriawosdev.. yep04:38
w30Djuuss, I read that writing to ntfs with Linux over networking is flaky. I don't know the particulars though.04:38
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MadpilotTeri, are you registed & identified w/ Freenode's nickserv?04:39
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Teriawosdev...i answered back04:39
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sethkSilentDissonance, makes no difference if you do what I suggested04:39
vulcaniumI need another hard drive04:39
vulcanium all this lossless music eats up my space04:39
wickedpuppyTeri, pls type awos and press tab ...04:39
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SilentDissonancesethk:  let me rescroll back up....04:39
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Terimadpilot, I doubt it,  I don't know what that means04:39
AWOSDevTeri yes are you registered?04:39
docmurokay how do you make iptables stay after restart04:39
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SilentDissonancesethk:  think i missed yours lol04:39
Madpilotubotu, tell Teri about register04:39
AWOSDevwickedpuppy she got my name right--04:39
AngryParsleylossless isn't really worth the hard drive space04:39
sethkSilentDissonance, (sudo) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:39
MadpilotTeri, you need to be reg'd/id'd to send PMs04:39
THX-1138Madpilot - How do you use the mount command with the live cd, it appears disabled in a blurb on boot scrren  and i get permission errors trying to use it.04:39
Djuussw30 that doesnt make sense, you dont write over network directly onto the harddisk, you present the data to the receiving machine, that writes it to HD all by itself. So i dont see how linux ntfs compatibility has anything to do with that04:39
wickedpuppyAWOSDev, ah but she got to type ... its hard04:39
AngryParsleyyou can get the same perceived quality by using VBR mp3s04:39
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AWOSDevwickedpuppy I type all the nicks04:40
heeroHello04:40
sethkSilentDissonance, choose the middle difficulty level for monitor configuration.  then choose generic monitor, or generic lcd screen, capable of    (1280x1024, for example, whatever fits the monitor)04:40
AWOSDevwickedpuppy even the hard ones :)04:40
Terimadpilot...oh04:40
MadpilotTHX-1138, it should just work, at least with ext3 partitions - that's all I've ever used it on04:40
SilentDissonancesethk: ahh yes, that I just tried04:40
JoelSHey guys, trying to go from gentoo->ubuntu, can anyone help with partitions?04:40
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THX-1138Madpilot - Okay. - Thanks04:40
wickedpuppyAWOSDev, lol ... my full name is mayng myat thu @ billy aung myint ... imagine typing this all the time04:40
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Teriwickedpuppy, cool trick with the tab thing04:40
sethkSilentDissonance, in that program, it tells you that it can't see a monitor at all?04:40
vulcaniumare there any known issues in writing ext3 from widnows using one of those drivers?04:40
SilentDissonancethe stupid card has 2 vid ports... let me try dropping my monitor on the 2nd one, just out of curiosity.  might init that one first :P04:40
wickedpuppyTeri, same as bash :P auto complete04:40
jordan_nex_ I can't think of any reason why it *wouldn't* work.04:40
MadpilotTHX-1138, you trying to view ext3 or something else?04:40
Teriwickedpuppy, kewl04:41
AWOSDevwickedpuppy mayng myat thu @ billy aung myint...I could :)04:41
SilentDissonancebrb, semi afk as I mess with the damn thing lol04:41
tonyyarussoJoelS: You might be more specific.04:41
vulcaniumI would think not seeing as ext3 is an open standard whilst ntfs had to be reverse engineered04:41
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w30Djuuss, I don't know other than to parrot what some else wrote so take it with a grain of salt and research it more :=)04:41
THX-1138Ext3 to edit xorg.conf.04:41
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sethkvulcanium, I pay attention, and I've not heard of problems there.  But investigate for yourself; problems can be rare but still exist and may be serious.04:41
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TeriMadpilot, is there a cost for registering?04:41
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AWOSDevTeri, free04:41
wickedpuppyTeri, free04:41
MadpilotTeri, no, it's free04:41
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sethkvulcanium, my judgement is that it is the best alternative if FAT32 is not an option for some reason.04:41
rpc-it's free :)04:41
nex_jordan, so you're saying that it isn't specific to intel based?04:41
vulcaniumokay04:41
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nex_jordan_, how would i check to see if it worked?04:42
jordan_nex_ That is what I think, I am not sure though.04:42
MadpilotTeri, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration04:42
nex_ok let's ask...04:42
TeriMadpilot, reading...04:42
JoelStonyyarusso, I have a drive partitioned like so: ntfs 22gig for windows, 21 gig for OSX (hfs+), and 30 gig for gentoo... i wanted to remove gentoo and put on ubuntu, and if convenient, maybe repartition it to include the hfs+ parition.04:42
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Djuussoeh, i think im in love.. gksudo update-manager04:42
sethknex_, smp support is specific to a processor, but intel is not the only processor for which smp is supported04:42
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JoelStonyyarusso, but if thats not possible, just to take the 30 gig ext3 partition and use that for ubuntu04:42
vulcaniumI need to ditch my x-fi card04:42
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nex_sethk, so the package works with non-intel cpus?04:43
vulcaniumanyone want it? :P04:43
AWOSDevxfi?04:43
shriphaniguys how do i resize an ext3 partition ?04:43
harrismHello room, I just finished building my new computer and I need some help getting the correct drivers for my VGA card (I believe) My VGA card is made by MSI, it's a NX6200 series NVIDIA/GeForce. Can someone tell me where to go to get direct rendering? If I type glxinfo in terminal I get name of display: :0.004:43
nex_sethk, even though it doesn't say...04:43
harrismError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual04:43
shriphanigparted doesnt seem to work04:43
vulcaniumAWOSDev, you know, creatives latest gaming sound card04:43
sethknex_, probably more accurate to say that packages are available for other processors04:43
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sethknex_, it isn't the same code.04:43
vulcaniumI don't really game much anymore04:43
THX-1138Madpilot - I am using the DVD image with three install methods.04:43
sethknex_, if you do the kernel configuration, and you set the processor type, then you'll find out whether smp support is available for that processor04:43
fogoshi someone use ipodder04:43
tonyyarussoJoelS: Either one should be pretty easy to do, just go to "manually edit partitions" and there you go.04:43
raindogI attempted to enable direct rendering for my ATI R340M Radeon card.  After installing glfrx and rebooting I can no longer get X to run.  How can I revert to the driver that ubuntu picked for it orginally?04:43
JoelStonyyarusso, I could always use the other partition like another drive in linux later, right?04:44
nex_sethk, how would i do that?04:44
MadpilotTHX-1138, never used it, know zip about the DVD stuff... sorry04:44
tonyyarussoJoelS: Yes.04:44
AWOSDevvulcanium, nope haven't heard of it04:44
laskahello there. Is anyoneknow how to reset admin password in Ubuntu?04:44
vulcaniumAWOSDev, wow.04:44
laskalaska@laska-main:/$ su04:44
laskaPassword:04:44
vulcaniumdon't pay attention to hardware much?04:44
sethknex_, download the kernel source, and in the root of the kernel source tree, do:       make xconfig04:44
laskasu: Authentication failure04:44
laskaSorry.04:44
laskalaska@laska-main:/$04:44
nex_admin password is your password04:44
AngryParsleylaska: use your own password04:45
JoelStonyyarusso, so i'll just install it on the ext3 portion... right now i see dev/hda5 is swap 1 gig and dev/hda6 is 29 gig ext304:45
Madpilotlaska, you know Ubuntu uses sudo + your own password, right?04:45
laskanot working04:45
AngryParsleylaska: use sudo04:45
tonyyarussoJoelS: Sounds good.04:45
sethknex_, if for some reason you don't have enough support installed to do that, you can try     make gconfig           and, if that doesn't work,         make menuconfig04:45
AWOSDevvulcanium, I pay attention to network cards and SMP motherboards...get it now?  :)04:45
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sethknex_, they all do essentially the same thing.04:45
bdragonmslCan anyone help me with my 6.10 box?04:45
JoelStonyyarusso, so do I need to make any changes in the editor? or just hit forward?04:45
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jordan_sethk, Don't you think that is a bit much for a new user.04:45
AngryParsleyas in "sudo blah"04:45
shriphaniAWOSDev, how do i resize an ext3 partition ?04:45
vulcaniumAWOSDev, yeah... haha04:45
AngryParsleyblah being the command you want to run04:45
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AWOSDevlaska, sudo -s04:45
SilentDissonancerofl i think it's solved.  appears that the card inits the dvi output first, so i have to have a monitor attached there.  the standard vid out port is the secondary :P04:45
sethkjordan_, to build it, yes.  but to use it to discover whether smp support is available?  absolutely not.04:45
AWOSDevshriphani, gparted04:45
Madpilotbdragonmsl, possibly, if you ask an actual question :)04:45
AWOSDev!gparted04:45
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php04:45
tonyyarussoJoelS: No, just tell it to use that one for /04:45
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harrismis there anyone who can help?04:46
AWOSDevI personally like the LiveCD.04:46
bashusrok... i'm a newbie when it comes to gnome...04:46
jordan_sethk, sorry misread.04:46
THX-1138My bios doesn't see three installed video adapters. - Is there a software bios available?04:46
vulcaniumthat reminds me04:46
JoelStonyyarusso, can I prmsg?04:46
bashusranybody got a shortkey cheat sheet?04:46
vulcaniumthe first time I botted up thel ive cd04:46
vulcaniumit kinda crashed04:46
nex_you lost me at source tree04:46
bashusror specifically, how do i switch between workspaces?04:46
nex_but anyways04:46
sethkvulcanium, did it crash, or didn't it crash?   :)04:46
SilentDissonanceaargh, i spoke too soon.  still getting 'no screens found' in the log :(04:46
bdragonmslI'm trying to get glx to work in 6.10, but it keeps coming up with "sudo: nvidia-glx-xconfig: command not found"04:46
Madpilotbashusr, Ctrl+Alt+Left Arrow|Right Arrow04:46
bashusrit was ctrl+alt+# in kde back in the days when i used it04:46
tonyyarussoJoelS: You can, but #ubuntu-classroom might even be better (other people can follow help topics if they want)04:46
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wickedpuppybashusr, see the 4 mini windows beside the recycle bin ?04:46
THX-1138CTRL+ALT+ left/right arrow04:46
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nex_thanks for your help guys04:47
bashusrhow do i display desktop?04:47
CaptainMorganwhy am I getting a sudo cd /foodir error: cd command not found? and if cd /foodir I get permission denied??04:47
sethkbashusr, you mean with a key combination?  usually control-alt-1, control-alt-2, etc.  (1, 2, not f1, f2)04:47
nex_time to google!04:47
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vulcaniumactually, it did the EXACT same thing my debian install did04:47
laskaAWOSDev it worked!04:47
AWOSDevCaptainMorgan hmm04:47
laskaThanx04:47
AWOSDevlaska np :)04:47
DjuussHey my firefox is busted.. 'bookmark this page' now spawns a tiny new window, barely the size of my cursor, that you can stretch out to reveal its called 'firefox'  but has no content04:47
Madpilotbashusr, also, try hovering your mouse over the desktop switcher (bottom-right corner) and rolling your mousewheel up and down04:47
bashusrsethk: doesn't work on gnome :)04:47
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vulcaniumright after where thel ogin screen in debian was [or where it woudl be on thel ive cd]  it just stops04:47
Agrajag-gday, for some reason emulate3buttons seems to be happening for me although i do not have it set in my xorg.conf. what else might do this?04:47
bashusrMadpilot: on a laptop... no wheel thingie :)04:47
CaptainMorganit's a newly created dir AWOSDev, for a spim simulator i placed it in /usr/local/bin04:47
THX-1138sethk - okay that will give you different terminals. or user perms04:47
bashusris there a show desktop shortcut?04:47
AWOSDevCaptainMorgan try sudo -s then cd /foodir04:47
vulcaniumI got a sort of courruptedl ooking box in the middle of the screen04:47
wickedpuppybashusr, then just click them ...04:47
Madpilotbashusr, ctrl+alt+right/left arrow, then04:47
halex-abDjuuss: Try restarting Firefox..04:47
vulcaniumand it just sat there for as long as I would leave it04:48
bashusrMadpilot: affirmative... thanks04:48
sethkTHX-1138, control-alt-f# is for consoles (not terminals, consoles).  not control-alt-104:48
bashusrhow about desktop shortcut? ie. window+d in windows?04:48
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harrismcan anyone help me with my VGA card?04:48
Djuusshalex-ab, i cant, i'd lose this site that i want to bookmark :P04:48
CaptainMorganthanks AWOSDev  ;), why was that necessary if I was using sudo?04:48
AWOSDevCaptainMorgan, good question...ask the devs?  :P04:48
wickedpuppyDjuuss, you can save the bookmarks ...04:48
CaptainMorganheh04:48
halex-abDjuuss, There's a thing called 'history' you know.. ;)04:48
bdragonmslI'm trying to get glx to work in 6.10, but it keeps coming up with "sudo: nvidia-glx-xconfig: command not found", I've installed all the glx, and I have a nvidia card.  Is there something that I'm doing wrong??04:48
Teri2007AWOSDev, I'm back... I think I'm registered now04:48
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THX-1138vulcanism - I am guessing you are using an lcd monitor?04:48
ChocoCidSo, what exactly is wrong with automatix?04:49
AWOSDevTeri2007 okay04:49
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MadpilotChocoCid, it breaks things, basically04:49
halex-abbdragonmsl, you're typing the wrong command.. it's nvidia-xconfig04:49
vulcaniumTHX-1138, nope, a crt.04:49
Djuusserr04:49
sethkbdragonmsl, that's part of the nvidia binary drivers04:49
ChocoCid"breaks things" how?04:49
ChocoCidis there a page that describes this stuff?04:49
Djuusswhat command was i looking for to see all running processes, but only print the ones that look like ' firefox'04:49
w30bashusr, right click on your panel and then left click on add; find the workplace swithere applet and add that to your panel. You can then click on a desktop that you want to go to.04:49
sethkChocoCid, before you use it, things work.  after you use it, they don't.04:49
vulcaniumthe live cd worked fine once I botted up in the dafe display mode I think it was called04:49
ChocoCidlol04:50
sethkDjuuss, ps aux | grep firefox04:50
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Teri2007AWOSDev, ok well I thought that worked but maybe not because you still can't see me I guess...hang on...04:50
ChocoCidso, no further details anywhere?04:50
MadpilotChocoCid, there is a page listing some of the problems with automatix, let me see if I can scare up the URL04:50
halex-abDjuuss, ps -A | grep firefox04:50
w30swithere/switcher04:50
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toolateanyone have any clues to where i can find old ATI M7 drivers? my display works, but I have lines through buttons sometimes. not anything else, just buttons.04:50
AWOSDevTeri2007 okay04:50
ChocoCidthanks, that'd be nice, i used it on my dapper install and had problems with some other stuff afterwards04:50
CaptainMorganwhat's a good dir to do manual installs of programs? i thought /usr/local/bin, but not so sure04:50
ChocoCidthe idea seems great though, so i'm wondering what's up04:50
Djuussthanks, but didnt need it, there were two firefoxes floating around as tiny windows, and they didnt respond to killall -9 mozilla-firefox04:50
THX-1138!display > vulcanism04:50
bdragonmslI originally typed this though... sudo nvidia-glx-xconfig enable04:51
THX-1138!display > vulcanium04:51
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SilentDissonancegot x to boot off the default vesa set... gonna poke around a bit and see if I can make this work... if not, i might be back.  i see there's a lotta others around, and I can plink away solo for a bit.  thanks for the help and suggestion on vesa at least :)04:51
wickedpuppyDjuuss, i thought its kill -9 ...04:51
AWOSDevCaptainMorgan I prefer /usr/bin but that's just me04:51
vulcaniumwhat THX-1138 ?04:51
raindogQuestion:  I need to replace original driver for my ATI card.  How do I go about that?04:51
halex-abbdragonmsl, yeh, you're right.. heh04:51
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vulcaniumoh I see04:51
vulcaniumI will savethat for when I boot back into ubuntu later04:52
nex_ACPI objects?04:52
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jordan_raindog, What do you mean by 'replace'?04:52
Djuusswickedpuppy its kill -9 if you know the pid, but i just wanna kill *every* firefox, so i use killall04:52
wickedpuppyDjuuss, killall mozilla-firefox ?04:52
wickedpuppythis doesn't work ?04:52
THX-1138vulcanium - It should be an easy fix - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  or edit the sudo gedit or sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly04:52
shriphanibrb live cd booting to partition04:52
WhiteNoisewill compiling a vanilla kernel with little in the way of modules cause any problems with ubuntu's hotplug bootup scripts?04:52
halex-abwickedpuppy, killall firefox-bin works for me..04:53
vulcaniumokay04:53
jordan_nex_ Is AMD considered 686?04:53
wickedpuppyso its firefox-bin04:53
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Djuussit didnt :S i told you firefox was screwing up. but i just expanded the little windows and pressed their close button, now i started it again and it works04:53
halex-abyup..04:53
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MadpilotChocoCid, apparently the page w/ the list of automatix issues got lost... too bad.04:53
wickedpuppypls try it Djuuss try killall firefox-bin04:53
THX-1138jordab_ - i am using the k7 kernel04:53
ChocoCidblarg04:53
raindogjordan_:  I attempted to get direct rendering working by installing the glfrx driver instead of the default one Ubuntu installed as I can no longer get X to start.04:53
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bdragonmslis there a certain image I should have installed for my amd x2 4800?04:53
ChocoCidlet me guess, issues with package managers somehow?04:53
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Djuussyeh it was firefox-bin :( that explains then, hehe i feel like such a noob04:54
THX-1138bdragonmsl: linux smp04:54
jordan_raindog, did you make a backup of your xorg.conf?04:54
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docmurIf I wanted to block access to google using iptable it would be iptables -A OUTPUT04:54
docmur????04:54
raindogjordan_:  The process I used did create a backup.04:54
wickedpuppyDjuuss, you be surprised ... the name for vlc is wxvlc ...04:54
AWOSDevdocmur, uh, yeah04:55
THX-1138bdragonmsl: smp symetric multi processing.04:55
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Djuussi'm more of a xine/mplayer man myself04:55
AWOSDevdocmur, why block Google?  what did they *DO* to you?04:55
docmurokay ummm how to I tell it I'm using a www. address04:55
jordan_raindog, Good, then all you have to do is use the backup, I'll walk you through it.04:55
AWOSDevdocmur, translate it to IP address by using nslookup04:55
MadpilotChocoCid, that, some fairly bad coding errors, unsafe use of various override flags in apt-get... there were also personal issues with the original developer of automatix. He'd attack people who attempted to  report bugs.04:55
jordan_raindog, What was the backup called?04:55
bdragonmslDoes ubuntu normally not recognize anything??04:56
ChocoCidah, i see04:56
bdragonmslor do I just have a funky rig?04:56
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ChocoCidbdragonmsl, hardware-wise, certain wireless cards and stuff04:56
docmurthen whats the drop command04:56
bdragonmslk, well need a restart, be back in a few04:56
THX-1138bdragonmsl: Nah, usually everything is fine. for the display.04:56
raindogjordan_:  xorg.conf.0 replace or something.  I'm not entirely sure.  If I can get to the directory I'm sure I can identify it.04:56
laska how do you navigate in console?04:56
bdragonmslthanks guys!04:56
ChocoCidcd04:56
laskacd not working04:56
ChocoCidcd folder or cd .. to go up04:56
ChocoCiddo ls to see what subdirs are there04:57
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jordan_raindog, Ok, are you at a command prompt now04:57
jordan_?04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/#04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/#04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/# cd / home04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/# cd / laska04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/# dir04:57
MadpilotChocoCid, the list is still up: http://www.novarata.net/comparison.html04:57
laskabin    dev   initrd          lib         mnt   root  sys  var04:57
wickedpuppy...04:57
laskaboot   etc   initrd.img      lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  vmlinuz04:57
laskacdrom  home  initrd.img.old  media       proc  srv   usr  vmlinuz.old04:57
Madpilotlaska, pastebin!04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/# cd04:57
raindogjordan_:  Yes, I'm in recovery mode with a command prompt.04:57
wickedpuppylaska, pls stop it04:57
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halex-ablaska: better to use ls rather than dir04:57
ChocoCidheh04:57
jordan_raindog type `cd /etc/X11/`04:57
halex-abLOL..!04:57
Madpilotlaska, I'll unmute you in a minute or three04:57
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THX-1138laska - careful sysops is flexinf muscles04:58
jordan_raindog, then `ls`04:58
DjuussChocoCid, what did automatix do?04:58
tji have had ubuntu installed for a while now - I unplugged /dev/hda (master - IDE0), and plugged in /dev/hdb ( made it master ) and installed XP - I then changed hdb back to slave and rebooted into Linux - edited grub to reflect the windows partition on (hd1,0) - but I get grub error 22 no partition.  Any ideas?04:58
ChocoCidoh, as far as i know, nothing wrong04:58
ChocoCidi fucked up my dapper install trying to get XGL/beryl working04:58
Flannel!language04:58
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:58
ChocoCidsilly me not backing up my xorg.conf04:58
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ChocoCider, sorry04:58
raindogjordan_:  I'm in in the root directory.04:59
halex-abheh, I did the same with Edgy04:59
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halex-abtj, looks like grub is still configured to use the old driving scheme..04:59
jordan_raindog, in /?04:59
halex-abtry hooking it back the old way and see if it boots..04:59
Madpilotlaska, mute's been removed. Next time, use a pastebin04:59
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THX-1138tj - the boot sector 1st 512 bytes is installed on the original master see ubotu's link.04:59
tji can boot into linux - just not into windows - i guess I need to clarify04:59
THX-1138!grub04:59
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:59
jordan_raindog, or /etc/X11?04:59
halex-abtj, sorry, I misunderstood..04:59
halex-abSee THX-1138's comments..05:00
raindogjordan_ I am in /etc/X11 now05:00
tjhow do I get grub to see my windows partition and install ...?05:00
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jordan_raindog, type `ls` to list the files in that directory.05:00
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halex-abraindog, you'll need to reinstall GRUB..05:00
docmurso I would do iptables -A OUTPUT -o ipaddress -j DROP05:00
halex-ab~grub05:00
raindogjordan_:  I have found the backup.  It is named xorg.conf.orginal-005:00
halex-ab!grub05:00
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:00
ChocoCidsaving xorg is such a ridiculously good idea it's astounding05:01
Djuussouch tj, thats gonna be a pain, sorry i cant help much05:01
wickedpuppydocmur, so you are going to block all instance of google ?05:01
ChocoCidwhy i decided not to do so is beyond me05:01
tjDjuuss: why is it going to be a pain?05:01
docmurit's not google I'm blocking05:01
jordan_raindog, type `sudo cp xorg.conf.original-0 xorg.conf`05:01
docmurit's a crack site05:01
docmurbut either way05:01
wickedpuppyah i see05:01
raindogjordan_:  Done05:02
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Djuusstj well YMMV, but i spent ages on a similar situation your describing05:02
docmurso how would I do it providing I have an IPaddress05:02
jordan_raindog, now type sudo GDM and x *should* load properly :)05:02
bdragonmsljust looked under my device manager and it is showing the graphics card as unknown05:03
tjDjuuss: hmmm - seems simple enough - thanks though05:03
wickedpuppydocmur, i were you i search on google for iptables ... there are plenty of tutorials and examples05:03
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Djuusstj: its probly me, grub and i arent too friendly it seems05:03
raindogjordan_:  Thank you very much.  It's always good to learn more about my system.  It's working as it should now.  I guess I'll just have to get used to no 3D acceleration.05:04
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tjDjuuss: i know the feeling - i have a feel for it, just thought I would pop in and see if anyone had a quick fix - that ubotu link is pretty good info05:04
THX-1138bdragonmsl: sudo lspci or lshw  should give you some info. - if you want to install an option other than vesa and generic.05:04
jordan_raindog, What instructions did you follow to get 3D working?05:04
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Djuuss!postfix05:05
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto05:05
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wickedpuppypostfix is great but my bloody isp blocks the ports ...05:06
jordan_raindog, Because I have seen pretty bad instructions for 3d acceleration out there.05:06
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raindogjordan_:  I found a entry in a dapper installation wiki that had some information that included some specifics about my video card.  I knew it could lead to problems, but according to the HOWto it sounded like I would be able to configure it correctly.05:06
amicrawleneed help seeing a ntfs harddrive05:06
amicrawlehow to05:06
wickedpuppysee ?05:07
wickedpuppyor write ?05:07
amicrawleit see is as dev/hdb105:07
amicrawlesee05:07
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Djuusswickedpuppy, i just wanted to know what it was because my apt-get dist-upgrade prompted me with one of them blue/yellow config screens for 'postfix'. i dont get why it cant just wait 10 seconds, at no input skip it, and go on updating.05:07
wickedpuppyjust mount it ?05:07
amicrawlebut does not mount05:07
amicrawlehow05:07
User23sup05:07
ChocoCidso, i downloaded qsynaptics, and try to run it... "Please install the synaptics touchpad driver! please enable X shared memory config in XF86config"05:07
jordan_raindog, Ok, that is always a good source, and may I recommend buying an intel or nvidea card for your next upgrade :)05:07
raindogjordan_:  I'll find the link now that X is running on the previously effected machine.05:07
ChocoCidis there a better way to turn off "tap to click" than qsynaptics? :\05:07
sethkDjuuss, add that feature and submit it to the development group, they'll add it to the next release if people like it.05:08
jordan_raindog, No need, the Ubuntu wiki is very reputable.05:08
wickedpuppyamicrawle, you got to give us more info ... what did you do ? is the hd detected ? and so on and on...05:08
raindogjordan_:  I certainly will, however, I'm using a laptop that was given to me while saving money for a new desktop.05:08
amicrawlei put it in05:08
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amicrawleand etc tab is not a dir05:08
amicrawleit sayes05:08
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sethkChocoCid, that's a very very old version that you downloaded, at least two years out of date05:08
Djuusssethk how would i go about doing that. (without using postfix ;))05:08
sethkChocoCid, see if you can find it, or something that replaces it, that is nwere.05:08
ChocoCidwell, the ubuntu wiki is 2 years out of date then :(05:08
wickedpuppyamicrawle, what you saying ... makes no sense .. you put what in where ? and whats etc tab ?05:09
raindogjordan_:  It wasn't the official wiki....   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide05:09
sethkDjuuss, you said you want it to assume the answer is no after a certain amount of time.  So add a feature that does so for questions asked during install.05:09
jordan_nex_, did you ever get your SMP situation worked out?05:09
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sethkDjuuss, or did I misunderstand what you meant?05:09
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nex_jordan_, not really05:09
amicrawlehow do i mount a ntfs drive in ubnutu05:09
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Djuusssethk, you got it, i just meant how to i suggest it?05:09
Djuussdo*05:09
nex_jordan_, i was just doing some research on it05:09
ChocoCidmy HDA1 drive mounted automagically this time (on edgy)05:09
wickedpuppymount -t ntfs /dev/hd? /media/folder_name05:10
sethkDjuuss, you look at the source for the installation program, change it do to what you want, and submit the change05:10
wickedpuppysudo ... pardon me05:10
w30tj, Windows wants to be booted from the first hard drive so I think you need to remap hda2 to hda1 in grub. Can't quite remember the syntax for it though.05:10
[lol05:10
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Djuusssethk.. heh. if i knew how to do that, i'd be using gentoo or LFS05:10
sethkDjuuss, then it will be accepted or not accepted.  Probably it would either be accepted, or made an optional behavior.05:10
sethkDjuuss, that makes no sense.05:10
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tjw30: thanks05:11
sethkDjuuss, lfs perhaps.  gentoo is ... well, that's off topic, I'll get yelled at.05:11
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tjw30: i'll see what I can do05:11
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amicrawlemount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what it sayes05:11
sethkDjuuss, but the whole idea of open source is that people see things they think will improve it, so they do those things, and then everyone get's the benefit of using them.05:11
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sethkDjuuss, if you meant that you couldn't make that change, you underrate yourself.05:11
jordan_raindog, those instructions look good, if you are willing you can try another solution that has a slight chance of working.05:12
wickedpuppyamicrawle, do you have hdb1 ? sudo fdisk /dev/hdb05:12
DjuussSethk, ok i'll try then! where would i find the source to the installation (or in this case update) thing?05:12
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w30tj type grub then help map05:12
sethkDjuuss, it would take some work, surely, and the first time you delve into it is the worst, but you can do it.  If you find the idea (changing it) attractive, then try it, you'll get plenty of help.  If you don't think you would enjoy doing it, that's a different story.05:12
amicrawleyes05:12
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raindogjordan_:  What do you suggest?05:12
amicrawlei have and drive05:12
nex_going to bed, gnight everyone05:13
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wickedpuppyamicrawle, eh ah i should have said sudo fdisk -l ... you see hdb1 ?05:13
amicrawleyes05:13
jordan_raindog, type `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` and be sure to choose fglrx when asked about the driver.05:13
sethkDjuuss, there are source ubuntu repositories that have the source for everything that is used.  get onto the ubuntu site.  If you know the name of a program, you can dig out the source for it easily.  (once you learn the system, which takes a few days).05:13
amicrawlebut when try to look  i get that message05:13
wickedpuppyamicrawle, then the exact command you type was ?05:13
w30tj, I think the line goes map "to drive" "from drive"05:14
amicrawlemount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what it sayes sudo  mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb105:14
Djuusssethk i'll get to it when i up my refresh rate from 60hz to 100, i'm getting a headache. That will be after these updates finish, and after i install KDE over it05:14
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sethkDjuuss, the thing to do would be to find out who worked on the part of the program you want to modify.  Then send an email to him, and ask him where he would start to look at something like that.05:14
bashusris there a graphical way to edit grub.conf?05:14
wickedpuppyamicrawle, the command is sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/folder_name05:14
sethkDjuuss, ok05:14
sethkDjuuss, just a suggestion  :)05:14
wickedpuppyamicrawle, you got to put it somewhere05:14
amicrawlewhere?05:15
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sethkDjuuss, I doubt you really want your vertical frequency to be 100, but definitely more than 60-05:15
wickedpuppyamicrawle, create a folder in /media or anywhere .. i recommend /media .. done ?05:15
sethkDjuuss, which video board do you use?05:15
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purplefeltangelwhat does Printing: No %BoundingBox: comment in header! mean05:15
sethkpurplefeltangel, that's a postscript thing, usually safe to ignore05:15
Djuussa nvidia geforce fx 5700, on a 21 inch screen. I'm gonna run it at 1600x1200 @100hz05:15
jordan_raindog, If it asks any questions you aren't sure about either trust it and just go with the default or ask here.05:15
ferossbashusr: you can use gedit05:15
bashusris there a graphical utility to edit boot options?05:16
amicrawlemade it in my home05:16
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amicrawlecalled windwos05:16
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purplefeltangelwhat does Printing: No %BoundingBox: comment in header! mean05:16
sethkDjuuss, ok, the card should certainly handle it.  we can force it to believe you have a monitor that can handle it.05:16
ferossbashusr: oh you mean like a wizard not a text editor... hmm05:16
bashusrfeross: in other wards... you gotta manually edit it yourself05:16
wickedpuppyamicrawle, type sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /home/username/windows <--- change username to your user name05:16
bashusrfeross: yes like a wizard...05:16
bashusrfine i'll vim it.05:16
Djuusssethk, well my monitor can handle 2048xWhathisface @ 82hz , but my eyes cant read letters that small05:17
r070r0073r05:17
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r070r0073r0.05:17
swashbucklinstevIf anyone is having problems with apt lately, and you are unable to update after a new install of Dapper, please see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1364819&postcount=4 - your problem could be related to your apt.conf. It fixed me up.05:18
DjuussMy dist-upgrade is finished, one package gave an error, /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb   is that system critical?05:18
wickedpuppyyou use lvm ?05:18
Dr_willispurplefeltangel,  where are you seeing that at?05:18
wickedpuppyif not then shouldn't be05:18
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Djuussperhaps if i knew what lvm was i'd use it05:18
Djuuss!lvm05:18
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO05:18
r070r0073rexcellent - got kismet working with the broadcom 4318...05:18
raindogjordan_:  Answering questions.....is it ctrl alt backspace to restart X?05:18
Djuussahhh that, no i dont05:18
swashbucklinstevDjuuss: Linux Volume Manager05:19
purplefeltangelDr_willis: printer properties -- but never mind, i figured out what the problem was05:19
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wickedpuppyi thought logical volume manager ... no ?05:19
jordan_raindog, Yes.05:19
Djuussyeh, no i dont use it05:19
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: which driver are you using?05:19
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Dr_willisalt-ctrl-backspace Can be set to 'force X to quit - with extreme prejudice' (ie kills X right then and there) :)05:19
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Djuuss'can be set' ? i thought it was always set like that05:19
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ardchoillesudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:20
Dr_willisDjuuss,  its often the default.. but its disabable/05:20
THX-1138Dr_willis - careful with that command ati cards dislike it better is to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:20
Dr_willisTHX-1138,  i dont run gdm :P05:20
w30Dr_willis, how do you kill X when it takes your keyboard and mouse with it?05:20
Djuussheh why would you disable that, its awesome05:20
raindogjordan_:  Same as before.  X server couldn't load properly.  Time to replace the xorg.conf again.05:20
Dr_willisor KDM lol05:20
P3L|C4N0greetings05:20
Dr_willisw30,  thas when you ssh in. ;p05:20
AWOSDevw30 yeah good question05:20
wickedpuppyw30, unplug the power cord05:20
AWOSDevw30 that happened to me too - the power button :)05:20
Dr_willisw30,  or if cant do that.. theres buttons on the front of the pc.. :P05:21
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w30wickedpuppy, yah that works05:21
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Djuussuh oh05:21
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w30wickedpuppy, go to the closet and filp the switch that says MAIN05:22
Djuussi'm getting worried, apt-get dist-upgrade finished, i did apt-get check and it didnt find any dependancy issues.. then i typed apt-get install on a whim and now its installing loads of stuff. Should i worry?05:22
cod  How hard is it to replace nautilus with something else?05:22
ferossbashusr: hmm looks like there was a grubconf but I can't find it in current repos05:22
wickedpuppywhy need to off everything in the house ? :P05:22
laskaGuys, here is situation: want to watch stream video, win media format, at yahoo music videos, Have Firefox. What do i have to do?05:22
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bashusrfeross: no problem...05:22
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bashusri'm good with vim :)05:22
bashusri'm just trying to do it the "ubuntu" way05:22
w30wickedpuppy, then all the clocks say 8805:23
ChocoCidwhy? the whole point of linux is that you can do stuff how you want05:23
laskadid install extension win media connectivity, not working05:23
ChocoCidhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:23
Dr_willislaska,  i saw a firefox exenesion the othe day that can 'smart download' videos from a lot of those sites.. makes it easie to play them after they are downloaded. :P not embeded05:24
Djuusslaska, apt-get cache-search mplayer05:24
amicrawleok it is mounted on /05:24
wickedpuppyChocoCid, not true .. linux can't make my computer fly :P05:24
amicrawlehow to retrive the stuff now05:24
ChocoCidsure it can, take your linux computer on a plane05:24
wickedpuppyamicrawle, on / ? what happened to ya home/username/windows ?05:24
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r070r0073rswashbucklinstev - windows broadcom driver (bcm43xx-fwcutter bcmv15.sys).05:24
ChocoCidF broadcom for not working right on linux05:25
JSeligsteinOooh Ubuntu auto-configures grub for you??? nice...05:25
laskaE: Invalid operation cache-search05:25
cynicallaska: doing sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs totem-xine totem-xine-firefox-plugin will let you play any media (assuming you have w32codecs installed)05:25
amicrawledo i do a umount to unmonut05:25
r070r0073rworks fine for me... i am using it with kismet as we speak.05:25
bdragonmslk, re-installed the drivers for glx, and tried to run the driver and this is what i got...05:25
bdragonmslsudo nvidia-glx-config enable05:25
bdragonmslError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed05:25
bdragonmslthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.05:25
ChocoCidhow do i get broadcom to work on edgy? same way as dapper?05:25
Djuusswickedpuppy, it could if you had two external fans, one on the top aiming down and one on an extended piece of metal aiming clockwise, connected to your pc by serial port05:25
sethkbdragonmsl, the nvidia kernel module is not installed05:25
THX-1138!cafuego05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cafuego - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
wickedpuppyamicrawle, why you want to umount if you want to get things ?05:25
bdragonmslwhere's that?05:26
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w30ChocoCid, depends on what kid of batteries it has nowadays eh?05:26
THX-1138!seveas05:26
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:26
amicrawleto make a new dir05:26
w30kid/kind05:26
cod  ------  is it possible to make drawer icons bigger than 48 pixels?05:26
ChocoCidhaha05:26
wickedpuppyDjuuss, i will keep that in mind :P05:26
sethkbdragonmsl, it is part of the package that is downloaded from the nivida web site.05:26
sethkbdragonmsl, I'm not sure where it is in repositories05:26
amicrawlemake  a /home/user/windows05:26
wickedpuppyamicrawle, well then yah umount and mount it where you want it to be05:26
laskais only available from another source05:26
laskaE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate05:26
laskaroot@laska-main:/home#05:26
r070r0073ryou catch that?05:26
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sethkbdragonmsl, to use the stuff from nvidia.org, you must be able to install kernel source and build the kernel.05:26
amicrawleumount: /: device is busy05:26
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: ah, I figured you would, the linux drivers aren't mature yet but they're in the kernel or so I heard. I have a HP Pavilion dv5210us with a Broadcom bcm43xx card, where do you pick up the driver again?05:26
sethkbdragonmsl, it's not difficult to do, but it scares lot's of people.05:27
wickedpuppyamicrawle, are you currently in it ?05:27
r070r0073rswashbucklinstev05:27
amicrawleno trying to get to it05:27
laskaid on't think have xine. Totem05:27
bdragonmslso, do I just need to goto nvidia and download their core?05:27
bdragonmslI mean kernel05:27
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sureshotdoes anyone here use cedega if so do you knowwere i can get the updates manually .. the cedega channel is a ghost channel05:27
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wickedpuppyamicrawle, whats the dir name you mounted in ?05:28
amicrawlei made it in /05:28
r070r0073ri am using an acer laptop and got it from their website (acer).05:28
Djuusssureshot, try bittorrent.. o wait, warez are offtopic05:28
wickedpuppyamicrawle, you can't mount to / ... / is root partition05:28
amicrawlei want to chage it to my user dir05:28
r070r0073rwinners don't do warez05:28
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: I bet HP has it then :-)05:28
wickedpuppyamicrawle, did you do mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 / ?05:28
JamesFosterDjuuss: I don't think Cedega binaries are "warez". They're not illegal, as far as I can tell.05:28
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r070r0073rya... i've got a screencap vid of what i had to do if you need help.05:28
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sureshoti bought it05:29
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amicrawleyes sayes it is mounted05:29
Djuusswell they are commercial apps that youre supposed to pay for in order to download05:29
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munkayhas anyone had any success with built-in sd/mmc card readers for laptops ?05:29
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swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: ndiswrapper seems pretty straight forward, is there anything that surprised you like maybe an unexpected configuration step? special settings?05:29
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JamesFosterThey don't get commonly distributed because Transgaming chucks a tantrum and threatens to stop distributing the source under the license it currently is using.05:30
johny5I used Automatix to install a couple of CD burning apps, and now all I get are coasters when I try to burn audio discs from MP3s.  Can anybody help me rectify this?05:30
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wickedpuppyamicrawle, ah ... when you go to / ... what do you see ? /bin /etc and so on ?05:30
Djuussjamesfoster .. what??05:30
r070r0073rnope... was pretty simple. i understand the broadcom drivers have been reverse engineered http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=41046005:30
r070r0073rdidn't have much luck w/ them though05:30
bdragonmslI found something in synaptic under nvidia kernel.  Says it's installed though.05:30
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sureshotwell it locks up in ubuntu just wanted some info did not mean to put someone in a tiff just a question if any could answer i would be appreciative05:31
wickedpuppyjohny5, moral of the story is never use automatix ... second what cd burning apps did the script install ?05:31
johny5gnomebaker05:31
johny5My first time with Automatix.  I guess it's no good?05:31
JamesFosterDjuuss: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/05/msg02823.html05:31
Djuusssureshot, technically you can be appreciative without anyone answering your question05:31
r070r0073ri wonder if aircrack will run on it, swashbucklinstev05:31
Djuussthanks jamesfoster05:31
r070r0073r;)05:31
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: yeah, they need tlc, I doubt they'll get it though when ndiswrapper is so easy and cheap (effort)05:31
THX-1138broadcom drivers reverse engineeered? - great now i can be arrested for the digital millenium copyright act. - ain't america grand.05:31
johny5wickedpuppy, but now none of the cd burning apps work.05:31
ardchoillejohny5: Are you trying to burn something that you don't have read access to? gnomebaker won't give an error for that, it'll just burn a coaster.05:32
Djuusssureshot: to answer your question, www.btjunkies.com, type cedega in search05:32
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wickedpuppyjohny5, what apps ? you said gnomebaker .. what else ?05:32
swashbucklinstevI really do heart ndiswrapper05:32
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w30if you get the install program off Nvidia.com don't use the Ubuntu synaptic sources too because they will fight each other.05:32
swashbucklinstevTHX-1138: I blame Abramoff05:32
swashbucklinstev:-D05:32
bdragonmsl***w30, I tried that several times and it's just not working05:32
johny5wickedpuppy, I have rw access to everything.  It will decode the tracks fine, but when it gets about halfway through the burn, it freaks out05:32
bdragonmslShould I just try to go back to 6.06?05:33
r070r0073rbut i didn't think you could run kismet w/ ndiswrapper + broadcom... maybe you just want the device to work period. ;)05:33
wickedpuppyjohny5, just gnomebaker ? then uninstall it05:33
THX-1138swashbucklinstev - Mickey Mouse is a communist - lol05:33
sureshotthanks wickedpuppy some people here are just too good to answer someone question that he cant find the answer to anyware would ask if it could have the cedega channel is a ghost town05:33
wickedpuppyand reinstall it from synaptic or apt-get ... it burns fine ..05:33
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johny5Uninstalling...05:33
swashbucklinstevTHX-1138: :-D05:33
THX-1138swashbucklinstev - Mickey Mouse is a facsist??05:33
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w30bdragonmsl, if you make your own kernel compile then you probably need the nvidia.com installer.05:33
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wickedpuppysureshot, you sure its me ?05:33
r070r0073rcatch ya later, swashbucklinstev - check out my site sometime -- http://passivemode.net05:33
jordanraindog, I got disconnected for a while so if you asked me any questions after the one about ctrl alt backspace you are going to have to repeat them.05:34
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: cool, thx05:34
swashbucklinstevTHX-1138: Is there any limit to his deprevity?05:34
r070r0073r<- needs to sudo apt-get install life05:34
THX-1138swashbucklinstev: rofl05:34
sureshotmiss read i am diabetic eyes are not to good but thanks anyway05:34
LaneI have some questions that begin "What distro is best for ...". Is there a channel that caters to these questions05:34
johny5Still no good.05:34
mlwallaHey all.  Long time noob, first time question-asker.  trying to configure the proprietary nvidia driver, and having trouble.  Is there anyway to redirect the error messages from xserver (xwindows?) to a file that can be used for later reference.  Further, is it possible to make that happen automatically with startup?  The problem I'm having is that when I hit ctrl+alt+bckspc to test my xorg.conf settings.  Any help appreciated so t05:35
wickedpuppyjohny5, pls ... explain...05:35
wickedpuppyLane, yes05:35
JSeligsteinHey guys, whats the correct process for installing something? sudo apt-get mysql ? say?05:35
wickedpuppyto all your answers , pls use ubuntu05:35
Dr_willisLane,  most all the disrtos can do the same jobs.. some are just designed with a specific job in mind from the start. :)   so often the best is the one that you know best.05:35
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Dr_willis!apt-get05:35
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:35
w30bdragonmsl, then there is the nvidia-xconfig to configure xorg.conf for you.05:35
amicrawleok got it mounted05:35
amicrawlenow there is a lock on it05:36
amicrawlehow to unlock it05:36
wickedpuppyamicrawle, use sudo05:36
johny5wickedpuppy, removed gnomebaker and tried to burn disk with Serpentine...now it won't even decode the MP305:36
wickedpuppyor chmod05:36
sureshotdjuuss that was a good url to get rid of me thanks for nothing05:36
LaneDr_willis, I know mepis best but I don't think I want to use it as a web/dns server.05:36
JSeligsteinDr_willis, and do i need to do an upadte ?05:36
amicrawle`windows': Read-only file system05:36
Dr_willisLane,  you could...05:36
wickedpuppyjohny5, use k3b ...05:36
bsnideris there an x configuration program?05:36
Djuusssureshot, my intentions were not to get rid of you. I downloaded cedega from there just yesterday05:36
THX-1138swashbucklinstev: Mickey Mouse is baphonet - yes! baphonet.05:36
wickedpuppyamicrawle, use chmod05:36
LaneDr_willis, not saying I couldn't.05:37
jordanraindog, I got disconnected, how is the dpkg-reconfigure going?05:37
amicrawlechmod to what05:37
amicrawlea+rx ?05:37
amicrawlea+RR05:37
Dr_willisLane,  and from what i gatehr Mepis is  basicially using all the ubuntu repos/packages now.. and some extras..05:37
amicrawle?????05:37
wickedpuppyamicrawle, 775 or 777 ...05:37
mlwallaedit: the problem is that my system hangs when I restart X to see if I got things working05:37
sureshotthat was www.btjunkies.com i got homes for sell and such05:37
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wickedpuppyit need not be secured anyway .. its your own machine05:37
jordanbsnider, Sort of, `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` but that probably isn't what you want.05:37
amicrawlechmod: changing permissions of `windows': Read-only file system05:38
Dr_willisLane,  of course the heart of the disrtos are the apt-get system I guess..and the debian  type core..   the rest is just frosting on the server-cake :)05:38
amicrawlesudo chmod 777 windows05:38
wickedpuppyamicrawle, btw .. read only means you can still copy .. are you tryring to write ?05:38
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LaneDr_willis, Great, debian it is.05:38
stargazeri am trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy and after 2 hours of downloading it saids "error reading from server, unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing05:38
Djuusssureshot, whoops, typo, i'm looking for the proper address now05:38
stargazerwhat does this mean?05:38
amicrawleno just trying to look05:38
wickedpuppyamicrawle, then just cd ...05:39
Dr_willisLane,  thats always good. :P   of course once ya learn the fundamentals.. the rest is easy05:39
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johny5wickedpuppy, k3b is saying unable to handle files due to unsupported format05:39
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amicrawlecd: windows: Permission denied05:39
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sureshotthanks and i applogize for my attitude05:39
wickedpuppyjohny5, you need to get restricted modules ...05:39
wickedpuppyamicrawle, may i ask what you typed ?05:40
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swashbucklinstevTHX-1138: It may be worse than that!05:40
wickedpuppy!mp305:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:40
amicrawlecd windows05:40
LaneDr_willis, My nokia runs debian, my laptop runs debian, and my future web/dns server runs debian... if only it could run IOS like my routers05:40
spasmodo!dvd05:40
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:40
amicrawlebash: cd: windows: Permission denied05:40
Dr_willisLane,  my NSLU2 runs a debian variant now. :P05:40
wickedpuppyamicrawle, ls -l and paste to us the permission pls05:40
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wickedpuppyjust the windows05:40
LaneDr_willis, NSLU2?05:41
amicrawledr-x------  1 root       root05:41
wickedpuppyamicrawle, sudo cd05:41
amicrawlethat is what it is05:41
Dr_willisLane,  a little fileserver. has 2 usb ports for hard drives.. by Linksys. about $8005:41
jordansudo cd won't work.05:41
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Djuussbrb restarting in what i hope will be 6.0605:41
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LaneDr_willis, cool deal I will have to check it out.05:41
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wickedpuppyjordan, can help him ? i going for lunch ...05:42
brian98anyone know if apache 1.3 or 2.x can do .net stuff?05:42
mlwallawow...lotta questions flying around in here05:42
brian98or should i go to #apache05:42
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jordanwickedpuppy, What is he trying to do?05:42
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AngryParsleyehh, there is a mod_mono05:42
AngryParsleybut it sucks05:42
wickedpuppybrian98, go into that dir05:42
LaneDr_willis, reccomended mirror for debian? Or should I use torrent?05:42
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mlwallais it proper etiquette to just keep asking til someone notices yours?05:42
jordanThen yes.05:42
AngryParsleybrian98: ask about it in #apache05:43
AWOSDevbrian98, it can host sites that end in .net05:43
AWOSDev:)05:43
brian98k05:43
amicrawlecan any body help me05:43
brian98just I have been05:43
johny5wickedpuppy, it would seem that I already have them.05:43
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jordanamicrawle, type `sudo su`05:43
brian98installing ubuntu severs now for a long time05:43
wickedpuppyLane, if you have to ask us for everything .... i don't think you are ready for linux .. pls use google ...05:43
brian98and someone want windows 2003 with msssql05:43
stargazerok05:43
JoelS2 if i connect ethernet after linux boots, how do i tell it to refresh? i thought it was ifconfig eth0 up but it didn't work.05:43
Dr_willisLane,  your speeds may vary. :P my torrent speeds are always slow. :(05:43
brian98and I really don't want the hassle ;)05:43
stargazercan you answer this? how do you save in vi?05:43
Dr_willis!vi05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
JoelS2stargazer, :w05:44
AWOSDevJoelS2, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart05:44
Dr_willisesc :wq05:44
JoelS2AWOSDev, thanks!!05:44
brian98!vim05:44
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code05:44
wickedpuppyjohny5, well .. i never use automatix so can't say whats ya machine is like now ...05:44
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AWOSDevJoelS2 np05:44
Dr_willis:help    -- is handy to rember in vi as well05:44
AWOSDevI love vi :)05:44
johny5wickedpuppy, first and last time for me.  thanks for your help.05:44
brian98Dr_willis,  I prever nano05:44
jordanamicrawle, Then you should be able to `cd windows`05:44
JoelS2AWOSDev, command not found?05:44
wickedpuppyjohny5, no prob ... :P05:44
wickedpuppyJoelS2, may we ask what you typed ? exactly05:45
brian98Dr_willis, I guess it's because I used wordstar in the 80's05:45
wickedpuppyoh wrong person05:45
JoelS2Exactyly what you typed05:45
wickedpuppylunch time!05:45
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amicrawleok did now how do i see the folder  user mode with out05:45
Dr_willisNerdStar :)05:45
LaneDr_willis, my torrent speeds are also slow...should I suspect throttling?05:45
w30sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:45
swashbucklinstevI'm gettin out of here, twilight zone is on05:45
brian98Lane, it's usual to happen05:45
wicked_luncheh jordan can also remind him not to use root shell always ? thanks05:46
Dr_willisLane,  no idea there.. ive gotten good speeds on some torrents.. like ISO's when first released...  so it all depends on the torrents i guess05:46
THX-1138Lane - yes. most isps find it fashionable05:46
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JoelS2Ah okay... going to check, thanks :)05:46
dash`anybody have experience with ssh and sshfs ?05:46
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LaneThrottling seems to be a hot subject.05:47
jordanamicrawle, Now you want to make that folder readable by your normal, non root, user with chown...05:48
johny5wicked_lunch, that was rather silly of me...didn't install the k3b mp3 decoder lib....thanks again.05:48
THX-1138Lane - If you pay for 600kbs down and 325kbs a second up why should you be able to use it all? - heck they already limit upspeed right?05:48
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morriganinfligh1helo?05:49
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amicrawleso i do a chow /home/user/windwos?05:49
jordanamicrawle, To do that first get out of that directory with `cd ..`05:49
morriganinfligh1does anyone here know anything about rhythmbox?05:49
jordanamicrawle, Exactly.05:49
LaneTHX-1138, Can you send me proof that throttling happens? I mean I don't doubt that it does I just haven't seen solid proof.05:49
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amicrawlebash: chow: command not found05:50
THX-1138Hi cafuego.05:50
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown yourUserName folderPath`05:50
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jribmorriganinfligh1: someone probably knows something about it05:50
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Larkenhello~05:50
THX-1138cafuego - Were you hosting a broadcom driver?05:50
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morriganinfligh1thanks jrib...I'm new to ubuntu and to IRC..please forgive any unintended blunders05:51
devnullmy gnome-panel's aren't working or responding to input anymore .... anyone run into this problem before ?05:51
jribmorriganinfligh1: it's best to just ask your real question and then see if anyone can answer it :)05:51
amicrawlechow: command not found05:51
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THX-1138devnull - are you using glx?05:51
jribamicrawle: chown  with an 'n'05:51
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jordanamicrale chowN.05:51
devnullTHX-1138, no im not05:51
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THX-1138devnull - that was my guess. - sry05:52
morriganinfligh1*grin* thanks again, jrib....I am trying to figure out how to alter audio file properties so that rhythmbox will read the artist, title, etc05:52
amicrawleok how do i chown the hole folder05:52
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devnullhehe thank you though05:52
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown yourUserName folderPath`05:52
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JoelSOKay, I still can't get an internet connection... does it matter if it tries to use IPv6 or IPv4?05:52
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Gigiyahello05:53
AWOSDevIPv405:53
ellioTbwhat up05:53
devnulli would actually like to switch over to xfce but i can't find replacements for some gnome-applets and software05:53
amicrawlechown: missing operand after `/home/amicrawler/windows05:53
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JoelSAWOSDev, it appears to be trying to use IPv605:53
w30Lane, play with this:http://www.zdnet.com.au/broadband/speedtest.htm05:53
THX-1138devnull - do you have something added launched using Sessions .. Start Up programs?05:53
Gigiyai'm new to IRC and pretty new to ubuntu05:53
LarkenI've recently aquired a live disk from one of my teachers, and I tried to install it on an old laptop (it was dropped, spits out the OS NOT FOUND error.) I get to the Ubuntu startup and say run/install or something of the like and then it starts to boot/install. However, once it gets to "Configuring X" it seems to shut down and goes back to a blank blinking prompt. No keys then work and it has to be restarted. Any ideas?05:53
ellioTbdevnull, why do you have to replace them? i am in xfce and everything is working for me05:53
ellioTbGigiya, me too05:53
djuusserr05:53
LaneOK, now I feel like an idiot but ia64 is the distro I download for the standard 64bit i386 chipset?05:53
morriganinfligh1me three, gig05:53
amicrawlechown: missing operand after `/home/amicrawler/windows05:53
LaneNever done the 64 bit thing with linux.05:53
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.05:53
amicrawleany clues05:53
ColonelPanic001I have a USB card-reader which normally works beautifully, but now for seemingly no reason I notice the power light on it isn't even on. Is there something that could have "turned off" the USB ports?05:53
djuussok problem: i cant log in to X as a normal user, because of ownership problems with my home directory05:54
devnullTHX-1138, nothing i added manualy but i think it might be deskbar on the panel that is messing it up05:54
JoelSAWOSDev, unless its my ISP, something is wrong, DHCP isn't working correctly or something05:54
AWOSDevJoelS, IPv4 but I'm not sure how05:54
jordanamicrawle, What are you typing exactly?05:54
jribmorriganinfligh1: it should just read the tags on the file automatically.  What does rhythmbox do currently for you?  Does it just display the filename instead?05:54
w30Lane, ia64 is Itaniam05:54
AWOSDevJoelS, I'll try helping in a little bit, I'm kinda busy right now05:54
ferossLarken: when you say 'old' laptop how old are we talking.. PII ?05:54
amicrawlesudo chown -R /home/amicrawler/windows05:54
Lanewell freak05:54
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JoelSAnyone else know how to force IPv4?05:54
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ellioTbdevnull, why don't you just install xfce and check it out, takes like 30 secs to install, and then you can just swtich over to it, to see if you like it05:55
devnullellioTb, i need something to change my cpu speed05:55
ColonelPanic001no ideas, anyone?05:55
THX-1138devnull - ah. okay. i am 2 for 2 wrong can i stop guessing now?05:55
jordanamicrawle, no...05:55
devnullellioTb, i have had xfce on here for awhile05:55
ghosthi05:55
jribmorriganinfligh1: or do you just want to edit the current tags?05:55
Larkenfeross- lemme look it up, haven't used it in ages05:55
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.05:55
ellioTbdevnull, ahh, change your CPU speed? never heard of that05:55
devnullellioTb, that is why i installed ubuntu originally but found that gnome finally got their act together05:55
ghostwho can help me05:55
morriganinfligh1jrib - on some of the files it reads everything...on other files there are no tags...so perhaps my question should be how to add tags?05:55
jordanamicrawle, You forgot the user name.05:55
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ellioTbdevnull, yeah, i just use xfce cause i am on an older laptop with not much ram05:55
devnullTHX-1138, it probably is something starting up in the session05:55
morriganinfligh1(you got there be foer me *grin*(05:55
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amicrawlechown: missing operand after `amicrawler/windows'05:55
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amicrawleTry `chown --help' for more information.05:56
devnullellioTb, technically i guess i have xubuntu though i have gnome completely installed aswell05:56
amicrawlecan you spell it out 4 me please05:56
jordanamicrawle, you need to be sure you follow this exactly...05:56
`kaotHi folks.  IDE cdrom drive(s) not working on a system with SATA.  Anyone know anything about this?05:56
jribmorriganinfligh1: ah, well there is a nice tool called 'easytag' you can install.  I also believe you can right click on the file listed in rythmbox and edit its properties that way too.  If you want to try easytag, you'll need to have enabled the universe repository05:56
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.05:56
ghostquestion : which package needed when i install alsa05:56
THX-1138devnull - careful, modifying it leaves no way to back up un modified version.05:57
ellioTbdevnull, yeah, i am ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed05:57
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Lanew30, should I get the i386 then?05:57
crimsunghost: alsa's already installed by default05:57
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jordanamicrawle, I think you are forgetting the user name.05:57
ghostno05:57
devnullTHX-1138, are you talking about the session file ?05:57
morriganinfligh1ok, jrib...where do I get easytag and and how do I enable universe repository?05:57
Larkenfeross- pIII05:57
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morriganinfligh1(btw, jrib, really appreciate the help)05:57
amicrawleis my user name amicrawle05:58
ColonelPanic001anyone know anything about USB devices suddenly and seemingly randomly shutting off completely?05:58
amicrawleis my user name amicrawler05:58
w30Lane, do you have a 64bit box?05:58
devnullim just glad i found a good session extension for firefox because i missed session support from galeon05:58
jribmorriganinfligh1: system > administration > synaptic is the tool you should use to install your software (or add/remove programs as well).  I'll have ubotu send you the information for the universe repository05:58
jribubotu: tell morriganinfligh1 about universe05:58
Lanew30, It is in the mail.05:58
jordanamicrawle, To check type exit, then cd ~05:58
PFAon opera, FLash only plays 2 seconds of any video with no sound. on firefox it will completely play but there is no sound. how do i fix these problems. please do not point me to RestrictedFormats.05:58
jribPFA: did you setup aoss?05:59
Dr_willisflash is a bit of a disaster at this time... :(05:59
amicrawleok did05:59
PFAjrib: i'm not sure05:59
ghost........05:59
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w30Lane, Is your 64 bit box or your 32bit box in the mail?05:59
jribPFA: that's what is on restrictedformats ;)05:59
`kaotHi folks.  IDE cdrom drive(s) not working on a system with SATA.  Anyone know anything about this?05:59
jordannow cd ..05:59
ferossLarken: hmm not too bad. when you boot look at the boot options, could try different video settings.05:59
Lanew30, 64bit.05:59
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amicrawlek05:59
beefsprocketanyone want to give me a hand with debootstrap? got a peculiar error05:59
Larkenfeross- I've just rebooted06:00
morriganinfligh1thanks jrib andubotu....now I have a starting place...much appreciated!06:00
Larkenfeross- what should I try?06:00
jordanamicrawle, BTW, I am tired right now, there are easier ways of doing this I just can't remember :)06:00
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jribPFA: there is a troubleshooting section for flash, taht should resolve your firefox flash sound problem.  I don't know about opera06:00
jribmorriganinfligh1: np06:00
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jordanamicrawle, now type ls06:00
ferossLarken: hold a sec.. brb06:00
ColonelPanic001very strange. Usually kubuntu even auto-mounts the usb card reader and everything06:00
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jordanamicrawle, That should show you your user name.06:01
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ALMimonihi, i have creative live! card and it's doesnt run on ubuntu but run on fedora, can i copy /etc folder to ubuntu to get works?06:01
amicrawlepwd06:02
ALMimoni*sound card06:02
yokobrheeeelp! i can boot anything from cd here =/06:02
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amicrawle...   /home/amicrawler06:02
w30Lane you can install the 386 install on the 64 bit box ok and it will run at 32 bit. If you install the 64 bit install it will run at 64 bit which is better. However you will have problems getting some 3rd party stuff going on 64 bit installs like flash player and some codecs and RealPlayer.06:02
THX-1138!soundblaster06:02
ubotusoundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth06:02
JSeligsteinSiiiiigh06:02
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jordanamicrawle, Good, then your username is amicrawle06:02
PFAjrib: okay, it's all well and good, but . . . i hate Firefox and i would much rather use Opera.06:02
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jordanamicrawle, What is the directory again?06:03
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orbinyokobr: set it in bios?06:03
THX-1138!PFA - It is in the commercial non-free repository.06:03
amicrawlewindows06:03
Lanew30, I know that I want to run the 64 bit version. The problem is at: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ there is no 64 bit install06:03
beefsprocketdebootstrap anyone?06:03
amicrawle.. /home/amicrawler/windows06:03
jordanamicrawle, the full path.06:03
PFATHX-1138: yes, i have opera installed -- i'm talking about flash; there's a fix for firefox but not opera06:03
jordansry06:03
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jribPFA: on opera the video fails you said right?06:04
PFAjrib: yeah06:04
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown -R amicrawle  /home/amicrawler/windows` should do it06:04
jribPFA: yeah I have no idea why flash would work for a bit and just stop06:04
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PFAsigh okay, jrib thanks anyway06:05
THX-1138PFA - I don't enable jave. - sorry.06:05
DraccyI'm having trouble getting mkfs to work. How do I make the entire drive /dev/hdb1 with reiserfs using mkfs?06:05
PFAbye06:05
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Lam_!mplayer06:05
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile06:05
w30Lane, I am running 64 bit Ubuntu; I don't know about Debian except that Ubuntu is Debian under the hood so what gives? There has to be a 64 bit debian somewhere06:05
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.06:05
jordanamicrawle, Did that command work?06:06
Draccyext3 is fine if you prefer.06:06
yokobryeap, when i try to boot from cd, many errors, in any OS06:06
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amicrawlechown: changing ownership of `/home/amicrawler/windows': Read-only file system06:06
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orbinDraccy: tried googling for tutes?  i usually just use gparted/qtparted06:06
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amicrawlestill a lock on it06:06
Draccyorbin, gparted doesn't seem up to the task of completely formatting the drive. It bitches.06:07
amicrawleit;s owned by root06:07
DraccyPardon my language if it's vulgar.06:07
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jordanamicrawle, any error when you ran the command?06:07
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amicrawleit;s owned by root06:07
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beefsprocketDraccy: you tried mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hdb106:08
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jordanamicrawle, Did you type sudo when you ran the command?06:08
beefsprocketDraccy: or mkreiserfs ?06:08
amicrawleyes06:08
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jordanamicrawle, I guess I am too tired to be helping then because I thought for sure that would work.06:09
djuussOk problem: I cant use normal users. When i boot up, i get a terminal, not x. I can log in as a user, but users dont have permission to enter /home, not even if i sudo chown <user> home06:09
amicrawlehow do i get a  suoer user  gui  home06:09
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amicrawlehow do i get a  super user  gui  home06:09
ChocoCidhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:09
Dr_willisamicrawle,  best to stickto the shell to do super-user-stuff06:09
jordanamicrawle, sudo nautilus, but you shouldn't use it often, it's not secure.06:09
THX-1138!rootsudo06:09
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:09
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ChocoCider, wrong one06:10
ChocoCidi think06:10
ChocoCidah, no, it's on there06:10
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jirwinhey there. I just installed 6.06.1, and it would seem that after a short amount of time all of my usb devices, and have to restart to get them back06:10
ChocoCidat the bottom06:10
djuusschococid was that for me?06:10
ChocoCidyeah06:10
jirwinanyone have any ideas on what it would be?06:10
ChocoCidthat's got graphical login06:10
ChocoCid(as root)06:10
djuusswell i have that, its just that users dont have permission to enter /home/ and can therefor not be used06:10
jordanChocoCid, I am not sure he neads that.06:10
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jordanamicrawle, try `sudo nautilus`06:11
djuussif i have a rj@mypc:~ $ cd /home/rj06:11
jordanamicrawle, Then you should be able to change the privaleges with the GUI.06:11
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djuussi get ' no permission'06:11
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ChocoCiduh06:12
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ChocoCidactually that was for amicrawle heh06:12
beefsprocketdjuuss: take a look at /etc/group06:12
ChocoCidsorry06:12
ChocoCidtwo similar questions at the same time :P06:12
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djuussouch.. quote from page: NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs, otherwise new login attempts may fail. If this happens and at login an error message reports: "Unable to read ICE authority file", log in using the failsafe terminal and execute the command below substituting user for your username.06:12
ChocoCidyeah, that's why you do gksudo gedit instead of sudo gedit06:12
w30Lane, go here for 64 bit Debian:http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/06:13
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godtviskendoes anyone know how to get user input in a batch program in DOS?06:13
djuusschococid, or sudo startx06:13
ltR20i want to make another partition, i cant select "new" in gparted06:13
ltR20everything is greyed + locks06:13
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ferossLarken: hey06:13
orbingodtvisken: kind of offtopic don't ya think? ;)06:13
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w30Lane Debian does not have an official stable release for 64 bit, I heard they were conservative now I know they are.06:14
Larkenfeross-yo06:14
Lanew30, thank you for your help.06:14
ferossLarken: so what are the options?06:14
jordanw30, but they will soon.06:14
djuussbut now i have a bigger problem, 'rj'  isnt allowed to enter '/home/rj'06:14
beefsprocketw30: 64bit etch is very stable06:14
Larkenfeross: In the other options? as in when I press f6?06:14
ferossLarken: yeah, look for video related options06:15
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jordanamicrawle, Are you still having problems?06:15
samueli'm looking for an msn compatible client that supports camera function. Any suggestions?06:15
w30jordan, I think stable to Debian is different than stable to other distros. like a rock I quess?06:15
orbinltR20: the partitions have to be unmounted to be manipulated.06:15
djuusssamuel, i hear gaim got webcam recently06:15
beefsprocketsamuel: kopete, amsn, gaim06:16
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LarkenFeross: It says Boot Options ._.size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw quiet splash06:16
jordanw30, Definately debian stable will run for 100 years strait if the hardware keeps up :)06:16
Alien|Freakhow do I check what files a certain package installed?06:16
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samueland voice mail to?06:16
jribAlien|Freak: dpkg -L package06:16
ferossLarken: nothing on video?06:16
Alien|Freakthx jrib06:17
beefsprocketAlien|Freak: try dpkg -L packagename06:17
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LarkenFeross: Thats all it says below the screen when I press f606:17
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tekian_Can someone pleaseeee help me figure out why my subwoofer doesn't work?06:18
beefsprocketdjuuss: how you making out there?06:18
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jirwindoes anyone have any idea why I am losing all of my USB devices?06:18
ColonelPanic001did they just suddenly seem like they came unplugged?06:18
ColonelPanic001as in, power light is off and everything?06:18
jirwinColonelPanic001: yah06:19
ColonelPanic001Same here.06:19
ColonelPanic001No idea.06:19
jirwinand now none of the ports work. I have to restart06:19
djuussbeefsprocket crutching my way through the molasses that is chmod06:19
jirwinwhat is your computer?06:19
ColonelPanic001I refuse to restart. heh06:19
tekian_!e170506:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about e1705 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
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tekian_!HDA Intel06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about HDA Intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
ferossLarken: what laptop is it? brand,model, etc06:20
jirwinwhat type of computer do you have ColonelPanic001 ?06:20
djuussbeefsprocket, ok im officially stuck.06:20
tekian_!alsa06:20
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems06:20
ColonelPanic001Uh, a mish-mash of part parts I bought06:20
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beefsprocketdjuuss: who owns your home directory?06:20
jirwinahh ok. So it isn't limited to my model of laptop...phew.06:20
LarkenCompaq Presario 1200 XL11006:20
ColonelPanic001heh06:20
AWOSDevPresario 1200?  the old one or the new one?06:21
djuussbeefsprocket err, i think root does06:21
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LarkenOld one06:21
AWOSDevthey had a 1200 that was a Pentium MMX 150MHz06:21
AWOSDevcoolness06:21
AWOSDevI have an LTE 515006:21
ellioTbjust ordered more ram to up this laptop to 512megs, this thing seems SOOOO slow06:21
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samuelhow can i install amsn in a terminal?06:21
ellioTbis there anything else that could make it so slow06:21
tekian_samuel:sudo apt-get install amsn06:21
ltR20orbin, how do i do that?06:22
beefsprocketdjuuss: ls -al /home to check, then use chown -R djuss:djuss /home/djuss (replace your nick with user name)06:22
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geoaxishello people06:22
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geoaxisi changed the positions of PCI cards on my desktop06:22
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geoaxisnow my ubuntu wont boot for some reason06:23
ellioTbapps just load slower than BALLLLSSS on mine06:23
beefsprockettried changing them back geoaxis?06:23
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tekian_Need Help: Subwoofer on Dell Inspiron e1705 refuses to work. Card: HDA Intel Mixer: SigmaTel STAC9200.06:23
geoaxisbeefsprocket:  no use06:23
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beefsprockettried recovery mode?06:23
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geoaxisdone that too06:24
djuussbeefsprocket, ok that didnt return any errors so sounds good. I'm logged into x as root now, so brb06:24
ferossLarken: looking here to see if anything will help http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/compaq.html06:24
geoaxisit gets stuck on  trying to find root06:24
beefsprocketyou're not booting off a pci ide card right?06:24
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Daughthello. I am trying to configure my printer. I go to system> admin>printing. My printer gets recognized and I go through the wizzard. when I am done there is no new printer added. is there something specific I should put in location?06:24
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Larkenoh thats a cool sight06:25
Larkensite*06:25
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tekian_Anyone? Subwoofer? Please? =(06:25
TweakIf anyone has a got a sec and can help me get apt to accept the 32 bit wine repositories on a amd-64 machine I would really appreciate it :D06:26
rockstar_Can anyone point me to a fglrx install howto that's worth a damn?  This is MUCH harder to install than it is on debian... I thought it was supposed to be backwards06:26
jrib!fglrx06:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:26
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rockstar_Tweak, you'll probably have to set up a 32-bit chroot06:26
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beefsprockettekian_: seen this? http://www.notebookforums.com/thread169312.html06:26
jirwinrockstar_: that one! yup :)06:27
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MrBIggZGreetings! I have two questions, fairly simple in nature.  The first is, is there a command when using apt-get to search for a package?  For example in Fedora you would use 'yum search <package name>'.  Second question is when you install a package via apt-get and using a GDM (I'm using KDE) shouldn't it automatically put an item in the appropriate menu slot?  I did an apt-get for firefox but it never put anything in the internet slot on 06:27
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odyssevsapt-cache search06:27
beefsprocketrockstar_, Tweak, no, you can use dpkg -i --force-all on the 32bit deb06:27
Halpohow does linux work in general....do different distributions modify the kernel when they build, or is there a standard kernel build that the distro's adopt?06:27
tekian_beefsproket: Yes, but I couldnt find anything on the subwoofer =(06:27
jribMrBIggZ: apt-cache search06:27
MrBIggZnoted .. one down one to go!06:27
beefsprockettekian_: seems like there might not be a driver for it?06:27
jribubotu: tell MrBIggZ about apt06:28
rockstar_beefsprocket, Do you really think it's a good idea to mix the packages like that?06:28
geoaxisbeefsprocket:  no i am booting off hda06:28
jribMrBIggZ: there is also #kubuntu, they may know more about how the kde menu acts06:28
MrBIggZthis is the first time i've used a debian driven system06:28
tekian_beefsprocket: In other words I'm basically screwed? =P I have perfect sound out the front 4 on the laptop. Its just the small little sub that's not activating06:28
rockstar_Halpo, a little bit of both.06:28
MrBIggZah .. ok! i'll head over there! thanks for part of the help though!!06:28
Rookie_sometimes it can take a min before the menu is updated ...06:28
rockstar_There is a "vanilla" kernel that everyone uses and builds off of.06:28
TweakAight cool, I will try that06:29
MrBIggZRookie .. its been 3 days06:29
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Rookie_ohh06:29
beefsprockettekian_: http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg03677.html -- maybe alsa from cvs?06:29
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ferossLarken: have you tried F4 on boot?06:29
beefsprocketrockstar_: I've done that on a 64bit dapper install, no problems, have to grab a few libraries, not much work though06:29
w30MrBIggZ, use the Applications, Accessories Ala-Carte Menu editor and add it yourself. The automatic adding is only done for the Applications Add Remove chooser06:29
xzkwhats the difference in the XChat that comes with Ubuntu, and the other XChat that you have to download ?06:29
tekian_beefsprocket: Read that too. was a little iffy when I saw it sort of dampens the quality of sound06:30
beefsprocketgeoaxis: try booting a livecd and chrooting into your installed system06:30
THX-1138chown command for owner:group with least permissions?06:30
rockstar_Hm, how does it deal with binary codecs in mplayer??06:30
ferossxzk: none06:30
Rookie_xzk - try it and find out ;)06:30
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xzkthey seem a little different06:30
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freakabcdhi all06:30
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THX-1138chown none  /path/to/file  ?06:30
beefsprockettekian_: I'd say try it (make debs so you can uninstall) -- let your ears be the judge06:30
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freakabcdwhat happened with the www.ubuntu.com site?06:30
xzkis XChat the best IRC Client for linux06:30
Larkenfeross- I was just messing with it, I don't know which I should try06:31
freakabcddid they change dns recently or something?06:31
ferossxzk: maybe the look but unless it's a different version probably not very important changes06:31
xzkwhat version do you guys use06:31
ferossLarken: give F4 a shot on boot.06:31
freakabcdi go to ubuntu.com and its some Bell Land Improvement, Inc. website!06:31
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freakabcdcan someone check if www.ubuntu.com goes to the ubuntu website?06:31
beefsprocketfreakabcd: try 82.211.81.16606:31
Rookie_freakabcd - strange, because its right at my end ....06:32
LarkenFeross: My options are 640x480x16, 640x480x32, 800x600x16, 800x600x3206:32
ferossxzk: I irssi ;)06:32
beefsprocketfreakabcd: it does06:32
tekian_beefsprocket: I'll give it a try. Where on the site is the link to the patch? Cant seem to find it x_x06:32
beefsprocketfreakabcd: ping it06:32
xzkfeross: where can i get irssi, never heard of it?06:32
beefsprockettekian_: i'd say grab the cvs from the alsa site06:32
freakabcdwhat the heck: http://82.211.81.166/06:32
ferossLarken: 640x480x1606:32
beefsprocketxzk: apt-get install irssi06:32
Rookie_apt-get install irssi06:32
freakabcdthats the same Bell Land Improvement, Inc website!06:32
jribfreakabcd: that ip takes me to ubuntu's site06:32
freakabcdi'll post a screenshot if required06:32
Rookie_bitchx is a good one too06:32
smoked1I like to use dreamweaver but I switched to Ubuntu. What can I install for Ubuntu that has the same split view as dreamweaver?06:33
freakabcdjrib, it doesn;t for me.. grr..06:33
freakabcdwhich is strange06:33
beefsprocketfreakabcd: does the name resolve to signey.ubuntu.com ?06:33
smoked1Thats what I really miss about it.06:33
freakabcdcos this is accessing by ip.06:33
freakabcdbeefsprocket, lemme check06:33
LarkenFeross: Ok, I'm going to give it a shot06:33
beefsprocketsmoked1: try quanta or bluefish, nvu is good too06:33
ferossxzk: it's a console chat program so you might not like it.06:33
smoked1beefsprocket: Thanks I will06:33
w30freakabcd, www.ubuntu.com works for me06:33
freakabcdbeefsprocket, signey.ubuntu.com.      1800    IN      A       82.211.81.16606:33
beefsprocketquanta is great06:33
beefsprocketfreakabcd: that's totally bizarre06:34
freakabcdbeefsprocket, wait i'll post screenshot06:34
beefsprocketi don't doubt it06:34
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xzkfeross: console chat ?06:34
freakabcdwtf??06:34
freakabcdhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/06:34
tekian_beefsprocket: I'm a bit new to all this, could you give a real quick walkthrough on compiling the driver from the cvs?06:34
freakabcdgoes to the same shitty Bell Land Improvement, Inc. website!!06:34
American-TechHaving trouble with sound on my new laptop.06:34
Rookie_du a tracepath06:35
jribfreakabcd: microsoft is taking over your connection!  I don't that's really strange06:35
Rookie_do*06:35
beefsprocketfreakabcd: take a look at your /etc/hosts file06:35
beefsprockettekian_: one sec06:35
freakabcdthis is freaking me out man06:35
TooRightSorry to interrupt, but how do I register with freenode? I can't find anything in the motd, nor on the freenode site06:35
jribubotu: tell TooRight about register06:35
xzktooright: I'm wondering the same thing06:35
jribubotu: tell xzk about register06:35
freakabcdbeefsprocket, my etc/hosts file has nothing interesting06:35
TooRightlol xzk... thank you, now i don't feel so bad, lol :p06:35
LarkenFeross: hangs up in the same place when I did that06:36
ferossxzk: yeah, you open up a console/terminal window and run irssi. It's all in the terminal so you can't use the mouse to switch between chat rooms etc06:36
xzkjrib: ty06:36
freakabcdbeefsprocket, and accessing _with ip_ should do no resolving!06:36
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Rookie_freakabcd - do a tracepath06:36
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xzkfeross: ah.. yeah prob not my cup of tea, i'm not good at using the linux terminal/console commands06:36
jordanubotu: tell jordan about register06:36
xzktest test06:37
beefsprockettekian_: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=2746406:37
beefsprockettekian_: then you want to use make & checkinstall06:37
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freakabcdRookie_, umm.. tracepath shows no reply after 16 hops!06:37
beefsprockettekian_: have you built packages from source before?06:37
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freakabcdRookie_, i'll paste on a pastesite06:38
jordanubotu: tell jordan about register06:38
ferossxzk: sure, it takes a bit to get used to but I like that I have maximum screen space for the chat screen instead of panels and tabs all over the place. Just different tastes06:38
xzkhow do i change the color of my own text in XChat.. i changed the background to black and the text to white.. so now it shows everybodys white text on black background.. but my text is dark gray, cant figure it out06:38
tekian_beefsprocket: Yes, I just always found it a bit messy sometimes =P. Tend to always look for deb packages :)06:38
jordan!register06:38
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:38
ferossLarken: hmm still06:38
beefsprockettekian_: well, checkinstall will make .deb files for you when you run it06:38
freakabcdok, what the heck is going on.06:38
freakabcdany website i go to is going to this stupid bell land improvement thingy!06:39
Rookie_smurfattack ;) ?06:39
freakabcdeven google.com06:39
freakabcdbut everything resolves perfectly to the right ip!06:39
jribfreakabcd: what isp?06:39
freakabcdjrib, dude. i'm at uni!!06:39
freakabcdand the next machine to me (my desktop) works fine!06:39
jriboh06:40
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beefsprocketfreakabcd: how about checking the output of route?06:40
beefsprocketarp?06:40
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xzktest06:40
xzkyay i got it06:40
freakabcdbeefsprocket, i've done a network restart already06:40
Larkenfeross- you think I should try another form of linux? that kinda sucks though, eh?06:40
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newbi3hello06:40
xzkhi newbi306:40
jordanfreakabcd, Try typing the ip adress as the URL.06:40
freakabcdeverything resolves. i even did a synaptic update and upgrade for a few packages just now!06:41
tekian_beefsprocket: What am I looking for in the cvs tree?06:41
BluRwhy is it that I can't echo the environment variables that are set in /etc/environment until I do ". /etc/environment"06:41
freakabcdjordan, same effect06:41
newbi3how can i burn an iso image?!06:41
Rookie_858 users - say hi to newbi306:41
beefsprocketfreakabcd: how about using the machine's cable next to you?06:41
newbi3lol06:41
newbi3:P06:41
jordanWhat about wget?06:41
beefsprockettekian_: I think you just want alsa for "modulename"06:41
freakabcdbeefsprocket, err.. i don;t think thats going to matter06:41
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jribnewbi3: right click, write to disc06:42
jordanfreakabcd, Does wget always download the same file?06:42
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xzktest06:42
xzekutiontest06:43
jordan!iso06:43
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows06:43
MrKeunerhi, which utility was it that checks md5sums of binaries in a package. (Not for the package as a whole)06:43
AWOSDev!test06:43
ubotuFailed.06:43
freakabcdok...06:43
freakabcdmy firefox is borked somehow!06:43
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ferossLarken: The second option a Safe Graphics Mode?06:43
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xzkyeah, I definately like XChat more then Konversation06:43
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freakabcdjust tried from kinks and it works perfectly..06:43
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freakabcdman what the heck happened to my firefox :(06:44
jordanfreakabcd, Are you using bon echo?06:44
xzkbon echo = poopcrap06:44
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LarkenFeross- Thats what i'm trying now06:44
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freakabcdbon echo? whatever the heck is that06:44
jordanxzk, Why do you say that?06:44
jldugger__its the beta of firefox 206:44
LarkenFeross- nope, hung up in the same place06:44
jldugger__its in edgy06:44
tekian_beefsprocket: I'm so lost =(06:44
xzkthe bon echo i used for winxp always crashed06:45
freakabcdthen no. i'm using the regular firefox06:45
American-TechHi I have a gateway mx6448 laptop and I am having trouble with sound. I need hellp finding and installing drivers06:45
jordanfreakabcd, Try downloading a file with Firefox maybe?06:45
xzkjordan: i would have like 10 tabs open using bon echo on winxp,  and the browser would crash and I'd lose all my tabs and everything I was doing06:45
freakabcdjordan, lemme just update firefox. there was an update in synaptic..06:46
jordanxzk, Thats why it's still beta :)06:46
freakabcdhopefully that fixes the problem06:46
xzk150706:46
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jordanfreakabcd, But were is the fun in that ;)06:47
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xzkYou guys ever had a problem with your mouse where it will double click everything? I may have dropped it or something... I'm not sure.. but it always double clicks.. well I should say Most of the time it does bc I've kind of learned how to make it single click sometimes.. but its extemely frustrating06:47
sproingietime to buy a new mouse06:48
freakabcdin synaptic, how do i check which repo a package comes from?06:48
freakabcdright-click properties?06:48
jribxzk: yes, I bought a new mouse06:48
jordanxzy, Even though it is a hardware problem ( most likely ) you may be able to fix it using software debouncing.06:48
ferossLarken: there's probably a way to start the boot cd without X but I think if the boot CD doesn't detect your screen it's going to be a bit of a hassle to get it setup. It's probably some issue with the video card.06:48
freakabcdit doesn;t show the actual repo the package is from06:48
jribxzk: actually, what I did for a while was use middle click as left click, but you won't enjoy that for too long06:49
xzkjrib: holy crap thats a great idea06:49
xzkmouses are expensive!06:49
xzk$40+ dollars06:49
Joker... mouses?06:49
xzkmice06:49
freakabcderr.. still no vim7 in the repo?06:49
xzkits not an animal.. do u spell it mice ?06:49
LarkenFeross: hm. alright, thanks for the effort06:50
jribfreakabcd: it's in edgy06:50
Dr_willis$40 is for an ok Mouse.:P06:50
JokerAnyway, I'll just ask my question and skiddadle06:50
Dr_willisI like my mx51806:50
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jordanLarken, What is your problem? ( I am too lazy to search through conversations but I think I might be able to help )06:50
ferossLarken: sure06:50
xzki saw a $100+ mouse on newegg.. some kind of Laser dealiemajig06:50
JokerWhat do all of that 'hda' 'hdb' 'hdc' and the like mean?06:50
freakabcdjrib, and i can;t install that deb on dapper can i? without updating a bunch of other stuff06:50
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freakabcdyou guys release too soon.06:51
freakabcdi think edgy is coming up too fast06:51
jldugger6.06 is supported for a long time, hence LTS06:51
jribfreakabcd: well you could try to rebuild it on dapper.  I think seveas' repos has packages for vim7 on dapper.  But edgy will be out by the end of the month if you want to just wait06:51
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jlduggerfreakabcd, you dont have to migrate to edgy06:51
freakabcdjrib, end of this month?06:51
freakabcdoh man.06:51
jribfreakabcd: release every 6 months06:51
freakabcdjldugger, but for new packages? i have to update06:51
jlduggerwell wtf06:51
gr8rahul i am trying to compile "file " package .. but it gives me the error "file: could not find any magic files!"06:51
freakabcdunless i like having a hybrid and soon to be borked system06:52
jlduggeryou want new packages, but not as often?06:52
unfknblvblhaha magic files06:52
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jlduggeralthough, you do have a point, edgy will be released less than six months after dapper.06:52
adEewhat does this mean:06:52
jlduggerbut dapper was just pushed back06:52
adEeThe path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does06:52
adEenot contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected.  This can happen if the06:52
adEekernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command06:52
adEein your kernel directory.  In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel.06:52
adEeoooppss06:53
adEemy bad06:53
freakabcdjldugger, not that. could you give me a reason for not having a vim7 package in dapper repo?06:53
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freakabcdtheres lots of other stuff thats being updated in the repo for dapper. i see lots and lots of updates for gnome stuff. why not a package for vim7?06:53
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jordanfreakabcd, Did you check backports?06:53
JokerWhat do all of that 'hda' 'hdb' 'hdc' and the like mean?06:53
xzkubuntu preinstalled software like ekiga softphone that I *don't think* I want? I'm not sure how to get rid of it06:54
Dr_willisadEe,  its looking for stuff in /usr/src/linux  which you dont have.. you may need to use 'ln -s' to  link linux to your klernel soucre dir.06:54
jlduggeri dont see gnome 2.16 in backports06:54
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SEWilcoI can't get any output from pdfimages.  Xpdf runs OK.  Suggestions?  I'm not finding PBM/PNM utilities in my system nor in packages.06:54
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freakabcdbah.. all minor, not major version number..06:54
adEeDr_willis: what do you mean? im not used to ln'ing stuff06:54
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freakabcdanyway, i believe i feel this because of what you pointed out: edgy is < 6 away from dapper06:55
Madpilotjldugger, it probably won't be - too large, too many depends, etc06:55
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jlduggerMadpilot, that was my point, i believe06:55
freakabcderr.. and vim7?06:55
freakabcdtoo large and too many deps? lol06:55
jlduggerpresumably nobody's willing to backport it06:55
Dr_willisadEe,  what are you trying to compile anyway?06:56
freakabcdanyway, i'll stop with this package business now.06:56
adEeDr_willis: i do have "/usr/src/linux"06:56
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freakabcdand start with another package business :)06:56
adEeDr_willis: vmware06:56
adEeDr_willis: vmware player06:56
Dr_willisls -l linux06:56
Dr_willislrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 28 2006-09-23 20:10 linux -> linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686/06:56
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freakabcdwhy aren't you guys considering binary deltas for upgrades even in edgy?06:56
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Dr_willisadEe,   had to make a soft link from my runnign kernel source dir TO the linux dir..  like that shows in ls -l linux06:56
jordanadEe, You know vmware is in the repos right?06:56
Dr_willisadEe,  for vmware server to install properly06:56
adEeDr_willis: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root src 23 2006-10-01 04:01 linux -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.17.806:56
freakabcdi know its too late. but waay back when someone made a sample implementation that worked, you guys just said: its not high priority06:57
Dr_willisvmware PLAYER is in the repos.. not the server06:57
Dr_willisadEe,  now do a 'uname -a' and see what kernel ya got.06:57
crimsunfreakabcd: because it isn't. It's Edgy+1 material.06:57
Dr_willis!info vmware06:57
cratukiI've got a new machine to install linux on. I wanted to have it use software raid across that board. I have created an image of 6.06 alt. Is this the best starting point for such a setup?06:57
ubotuPackage vmware does not exist in any distro I know06:57
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Dr_willis!info vmware-server06:57
ubotuPackage vmware-server does not exist in any distro I know06:57
adEeDr_willis: i got 2.6.1806:57
jldugger!info vmware-player06:57
ubotuvmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)06:57
tjshi, lets suppose I'm a hacker for a startup who is also the defacto sys admin, lets suppose we have our primary dns/web/mail server (rather critical) running hoary for ages, suppose someone here decides to upgrade it from hoary->dapper directly without telling me, and now its fucked06:57
Dr_willisadEe,  your linux link is wrong then.. it needs to point to the current runnignkernel06:58
adEeDr_willis: i know, i noticed that06:58
Madpilottjs, first, arrange to get that someone fired.06:58
adEeDr_willis: how do i do it then?06:58
Dr_willisadEe,  Good man! :)06:58
tjsthe wiki suggests hoary->dapper is very bad, dont do it, and suggests hoary->breezy->dapper06:58
Dr_willisremove the link. make a new one with ln -s06:58
Madpilottjs, the wiki is right06:58
jordanDr_willis, Sorry, I am going to go to sleep now before I accidently tell someone to rm -r their root ;) ( didn't give the full command just in case ;) )06:58
SEWilcoProblem: "pdfimages" is doing nothing.  And I'd like the PBM/PNM conversion tools but can't find a package with them (and no "pbm" in /usr/lib/*).06:58
adEeDr_willis: can you do it with me step by step06:58
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Dr_willis1) remove the linux link.06:59
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Dr_willis2) use ln -s to make a new link. :P06:59
tjsMadpilot, so hoary->dapper is totally never going to work06:59
tjs?06:59
djuussnot if you wanna boot your system afterwards06:59
freakabcdtjs, haha..06:59
adEeDr_willis: foreal, how do you remove its current link?06:59
tjsat this point should I try to do an upgrade to breezy?06:59
ChocoCidso what's up with edgy not letting alt-leftarrow and alt-rightarrow go forward and backwards in firefox/bon echo?06:59
Dr_willisadEe,  with 'rm' like you remove eerything else.06:59
adEeoh06:59
xzkI just removed ekiga softphone from my computer.. and while it was doing that it also removed "ubuntu desktop"... is that bad ?06:59
tjsor should I pull off the data and rebuild the machine?06:59
Dr_willis:)06:59
Madpilottjs, at this point, your best bet might just be a total reinstall...06:59
tjsok07:00
tjsfuck07:00
freakabcdtjs, the distro-updates i think sorta started working properly from breezy onwards.07:00
tjsok07:00
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tjsI hate my life07:00
freakabcdtjs, i'm just hoping i won;t have problems dapper->edgy07:00
jlduggerheh07:00
DBOtjs, watch the swearing please07:00
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deltabChocoCid: shortcut bound to something else?07:00
tjsDBO: sorry07:00
ChocoCider, i dunno, this is a default install atm07:00
adEeDr_willis: which one do you want me to remove, the dir 'linux' or ?07:00
jlduggerthis install is on dapper, and i started with either hoary or warty (i cant remember)07:00
aeroSoulxzk: if you dont need a desktop its ok =)07:00
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djuussHey my permissions are skewed. If i make a new user and try to log in, it says ' your home folder is listed as /home/user, but it appears not to exist'07:01
MadpilotHoary->Breezy worked perfectly for me; Breezy->Dapper blew up. I'm nervous about Dapper->Edgy now, myself ;)07:01
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DBOMadpilot, eh I got this box to edgy all the way from sarge07:01
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DBOMadpilot, it can be done =)07:01
jlduggerheh07:01
xzkaeroSoul: did i mess up my ubuntu?07:01
Lam_my totem-gstreamer lags when i try to play back h264 encodes from an mkv container, but the same file doesn't lag when i play it on mplayer07:01
Lam_why?07:01
Dr_willisadEe,  linux is not a directroy its a link TO the actual kernel source directory07:01
xzkfuck07:01
aeroSoulxzk: yes. use apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to fix it07:02
Dr_willisadEe,  it needs to be removed and remade to point to the right place07:02
SEWilcoAm I hearing that autoupdates aren't keeping my system current?  How can I know if I've been updated to the current stable version?07:02
xzkok cool07:02
DBOxzk, you too, less on the swearing please07:02
adEeDr_willis: so just: rm linux07:02
adEe?07:02
raknamhow do i access my ubuntu machine's vnc server from windows? just download a vnc viewer?07:02
adEein /usr/src dir?07:02
Dr_willisyes... try it and see07:02
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MadpilotSEWilco, the auto-updates should be working just fine. Current stable is still Dapper (6.06.1)07:02
mortal5just out of curiosity, what is the minimal ubuntu server install?07:02
xzkDBO: sorry, I accidently uninstalled my Ubunto Desktop :(07:02
mortal5how big07:02
Dr_willisraknam,  i like 'ultravncserver/viewer'07:02
djuussmortal5 350mb07:02
DBOxzk, no big deal, just reinstall it =P  (you mean the meta-package right?)07:03
SEWilcoOK, so how do I know this thing I'm running is called Dapper?07:03
raknamdr_willis, ubuntu already has a vnc server installed though right?07:03
raknami mean the standard installation07:03
adEeDr_willis: ok, its removed, how do you relink it now07:03
cafuegoSEWilco: Run 'lsb_release -a'07:03
adEewith ln -s07:03
Dr_willisraknam,  it has a 'share the current running desktop' kind of vnc server.. I normally install vnc4server07:03
brosnanChocoCid: works for me on a mozilla build of firefox 207:03
xzkDBO: no, I uninstalled ekigo softphone - in the synaptics deal.. and when it was uninstalled it.. it said removing "ubuntu desktop" too :(07:03
Dr_willisln -s SOMTHING SOMTHING else07:03
ChocoCidblarg07:03
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Dr_willisman ln :) i always get it back2ards07:03
jlduggerChocoCid, ive noticed something similar07:03
DBOxzk, oh yeah, just leave ekiga installed07:04
mortal5djuuss, ty good to know07:04
jlduggeronly one of the alt buttons works07:04
SEWilcoDapper.  OK.  Thanks.07:04
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ChocoCiddoesn't matter for me :(07:04
xzkDBO: I dont like it or use it07:04
raknamdr_willis, will that be available in the repositories or should i go download it?07:04
ChocoCidalso, why'd they switch from 4 workspaces to 2 from dapper > edgy?07:04
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djuussNooooo i'm stuck >.<07:04
Dr_willisraknam,  its in the repos.07:04
Dr_willis!info vnc4server07:04
xzkaeroSoul: it's not working07:04
ubotuvnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB07:04
DBOxzk, then dont use it, its really just best to leave it there07:04
raknamnice, thanks dr_willis07:05
SEWilcoNo suggestions why "pdfimages" doesn't work, nor what package has PBM/PNM image conversion tools?07:05
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xzkDBO: It's not working help07:05
AtKaaZhi, is there a way to see all hard links' paths of a given filename ? ie. if a file had 5 hard links can one see them all exactly where there are?07:05
MadpilotChocoCid, did they? That's uncool, but I guess it confuses some people... (I use 8 virtual desktops myself...)07:05
Dr_willisraknam,  the tightvncserver seems to have some bugs in it.07:05
MrKeunerhi, which utility was it that checks md5sums of binaries in a package. (Not for the package as a whole)07:05
DBOxzk, what isnt working?07:05
xzkcan I PM it to you07:05
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djuussbasically, users cant see or arent allowed to enter /home07:05
ChocoCidMadpilot, yeah, i see 2 here on a default (as of yet) install07:05
DBOxzk, if you have identified with nickserv you can07:05
xzkcrap07:05
eclipse75quick question, can i make a partition for the entire home directory? or will this interfere with things07:05
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ChocoCidwondering how to get around that07:05
ChocoCidalso, now my left/right arrows aren't even moving in text in xchat... let me test that in gedit07:06
MadpilotChocoCid, right-click on the desktop switcher thing, choose Properties, set the number of desktops you want07:06
djuusseclipse75: thats a good idea07:06
ChocoCidyeah, left/right arrows aren't working at all07:06
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Dr_williseveryone needs 100000 desktops!07:06
Dr_willis:P07:06
ChocoCidexcept, they can move horizontal scrollbars07:06
ChocoCidso... wtf :\07:06
eclipse75so it wont interfere with anything as long as its in the fstab?07:06
brosnanright click on the desktop icons -> properties07:06
lumgwadahello I've had problems with wireless since upgrading from breezy to dapper... I notice the wireless card got changed on my system from wlan0 to eth0. Is there a specific how to fix for this scenario at all? cheers07:06
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ChocoCidmeh, i'll restart overnight and fiddle with stuff tomorrow :P07:07
djuusseclipse75 are you partioning now? or is this on a running system07:07
eclipse75im running the ubuntu live cd07:07
eclipse75i have slack installed but going to give ubuntu a try07:07
eclipse75i know my way around linux, just never tried this07:08
djuussthen during installation you get a partitioning dialog, its pretty self-explanatory07:08
czer323!dvd07:08
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:08
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eclipse75alright then ill just cp over my entire home directory :)07:08
jlduggerif youve managed to survive slack, the advanced graphical manager should be doable07:08
djuussso yes, you can choose to put /home on its own partition during installation without even having to touch the fstab07:08
ChocoCidyay apt :)07:08
ChocoCid<3 apt07:09
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ArrenLexapt ftw.07:09
ChocoCid<3 the graphical version too, i just installed like 70 programs at once07:09
adEeDr_willis: drwxr-sr-x   2 root       src            4096 2006-10-05 01:06 linux07:09
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adEeDr_willis: it didn't link07:09
jlduggeri really don't like synaptic yet07:09
ArrenLexDr_willis? Are you here AGAIN? xD Honestly!07:09
eclipse75well thanks djuuss07:09
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Dr_willisya did it wrong then.. cd to the /usr/src  dir and use      ln -s  linux linux_whatever-the-name-of-your-soruce-dir-is07:10
djuusspfff i think its time for a reinstal07:10
Dr_willisadEe,  or i MAY have that backwards.. I always get it backwards.. so i reverse the arguments.. and end up confusign myself07:10
ChocoCidreinstalling :)07:10
ArrenLexDr_willis: I find that the safest way to symlink things is to put the whole path.07:10
ChocoCidi just did a fresh install of edgy today, it's hotness :)07:10
Dr_willisArrenLex,  yea.. i still managert to get it al backwards07:11
Dr_willis:P07:11
ArrenLexDr_willis: ln -s /from/ /to/07:11
djuusschococid, think you can help me patch up this piece of feces?07:11
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ChocoCidwhat exactly is the problem?07:11
ArrenLexdjuuss: I don't think even Linux can run on feces. ...yet.07:11
ChocoCidXD07:11
Dr_willislrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 28 2006-09-23 20:10 linux -> linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686/      :)07:11
djuusslol07:11
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ChocoCidfecesk?07:11
Dr_willisln -s linux linux-headers-2.6.15-27-68607:11
ChocoCidhrm...07:11
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djuussanyway07:12
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swashbucklinstevErh how do I get ndiswrapper installed? I'm AMD64 Dapper 6.06LTS07:12
djuussthe problem is, when i try to login it kicks me to / instead of /home/$user, because for some reason users arent allowed to see/enter /home07:12
ChocoCider07:12
Healot!info ndisgtk07:12
ubotundisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB07:12
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ChocoCidcan you chmod the /home dir to readable?07:12
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djuussliek how?07:13
ArrenLexdjuuss: what are you trying to do?07:13
ChocoCidwell, prob want read/write07:13
Healotswashbucklinstev, install ndisgtk will install ndiswrapper07:13
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ChocoCidfrom /. do sudo chmod 755 home ?07:13
ChocoCidmight need a special command to chmod a dir, not sure07:13
JairunCalothOK, maybe someone here can help me with this... I really don't know what's going on.07:13
djuussdude what does slashdot have to do with this07:13
SEWilco!fan07:13
ubotufan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html07:13
djuuss;)07:13
ArrenLexChocoCid: chmod -R07:13
ChocoCidah, ok, there you go07:13
djuussarrenlex i'm trying to login as non-root07:13
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swashbucklinstevHealot: apt doesn't know about a ndisgtk07:13
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ArrenLexdjuss: is this... a problem? o_o07:14
ChocoCidswashbucklinstev, : that package is in add/remove programs07:14
swashbucklinstevHealot: I updated 2 hours ago07:14
xzekutionDBO: check PM07:14
ChocoCiddjuuss, try chmoding /home so that it will work properly?07:14
ChocoCidi'm not a linux expert yet :P07:14
Healotswashbucklinstev, update and enable other sections of  repos07:14
djuussyeh when i do ls -al /home now i get some more x's07:14
Healot!repos > swashbucklinstev07:14
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JairunCalothI've been using wine to play world of warcraft. Wine is configured to use oss. I use the aoss command when I run wine to be able to listen to music with xfmedia while I play. However,  the past week or so I can't get  any media player to play while I'm runing wine... even with aoss07:14
ChocoCider07:14
DBOxzekution, done and replied07:14
ChocoCiddoes it seems like all the subdirs have been made non-readable?07:15
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ArrenLexJairun: try alsa?07:15
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djuussok now when logging in at GDM with a normal user07:15
djuussi get07:15
JairunCalotharrenlex alsa and wine don't play nice, also still dosn't work. tried it07:15
JairunCalothalsa and wow I should say07:15
ArrenLexDid you change anything in your setup to break it?07:16
djuussmkdtemp: private socket dir: permission denied07:16
ArrenLexCan you run two alsa applications at the same time?07:16
ChocoCidno clue what's going on, djuuss , sorry07:16
JairunCalothgood question...07:16
ArrenLexCan you run xmms or mplayer or whatever supports it as oss and then also run an alsa app?07:16
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ChocoCidi'm still in the noobish enough status as a linux user that i can only fix stuff i've already fixed :P07:16
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djuusssame here i'm afraid :P07:16
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ChocoCidi managed to break dapper by trying to get that stupid xgl thing working07:17
ArrenLexI can't fix anything. Ever. I don't even know why I'm on here.07:17
macosxhey anyone out there know how to change the application menu icon07:17
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djuussi managed to break dapper by using sudo startx at first boot07:17
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ChocoCidgj!07:17
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royalhey guys I have a big problem07:18
macosxanyone know how to change distributor logo on ubuntu??07:18
royalmy ubuntu computer doesn't want to connect to the net!07:18
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ChocoCiddid you just install it?07:18
jirwinwith dapper, is there anyway to update to PHP 4.4.4?07:18
royalit was working a few minutes ago07:18
royalit was on there for a day07:18
JairunCalotharrenlex: I can't get two programs running alsa to work at the same time07:18
American-TechHi all I having sound problems on my new laptop. I can not get my sound to work. I have a gateway mx6448.07:18
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ArrenLexJairun: then it's obviously not Wine's fault.07:18
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bll3rhello everyone07:18
djuusshi07:19
royalit was on the net then it decided it did not want to load webpages then kicked me off of irc07:19
ArrenLexJairun: did you touch your sound setup at all?07:19
bll3rHow do you get your routers IP Address (like on windows its ipconfig /all)07:19
ArrenLexroyal: what happens if you run "ifdown -a && ifup -a" ?07:19
ArrenLexbll3r: sudo ifconfig07:19
royalthen i restarted and now it gve me page errors07:19
JairunCalotharrenlex: I was attempting to fix an error I was getting when clicking the sound tab in winecfg. since then it hasn't worked07:19
ArrenLexbll3r: don't even need sudo.07:19
SEWilcoRouter's address shows in "/bin/route -n" as the default route.07:19
bll3rthank ArrenLex07:20
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SEWilcoOr maybe you want something from "/sbin/ifconfg -n"07:20
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JairunCalotharrenlex: I"ve been having sound issues since I upgraded to a basicly new computer.07:20
ArrenLexJairun: "issues"?07:20
SEWilco... /sbin/ifconfig  (no -n)07:20
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JairunCalotharrenlex: mainly with having two apps putting out sound at the same time07:21
ArrenLexAh.07:21
royal... HUH? then when I go to try waht you said its SUDDENTLY working again07:21
djuussyou should use 2 soundcards *ducks*07:21
ArrenLexJairun: did you touch the sound configuration at all in Ubuntu, or did you just let it install whatever was default?07:21
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JairunCalotharrenlex: well the default install was for my old computer. this is for the most part an entirely new computer. New mobo, sound card, processor, video... pretty much everything07:22
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ArrenLexJairun: did you install anew or copy your old computer's settings?07:22
SEWilcoWell, without "pdfimages" I'll just have to make crummy images from screen grabs.  Or reboot from my old drive.07:22
JairunCalotharrenlex: it's the old settings07:22
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ArrenLexJairun: Hmm. That would probably be your problem. You can't really migrate everything like that.07:23
xzekutionFor those of you that use XChat - What is the Red Line that goes across my screen ever so often ?07:23
ArrenLexJairun: firstly, is your system up to date with the current repos?07:23
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JairunCalotharrenlex: I belive so07:23
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czer323xzekution, it's to let you know wher eyou left off07:23
rylasasinwell now that its working ... what did you tell me to do now?07:23
xzekutionwhere I left off?07:24
ArrenLexJairun: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade JIC. Make sure you have dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list07:24
rylasasinis there anyway to fix this "goes off the internet and goes back on whenever it pleases"07:24
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smaxhiya07:24
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czer323xzekution, When you goto another window, the red line will start keeping track of where you left.  Then, when yo ucome back and everyone's been typing, you can go back to the red line and see, OHhh, that's where I left.  So now you can read what everyone else typed since then.07:24
ArrenLexJairun: then, assuming it doesn't update anything\doesn't update alsa, download this file: http://arrenlex.diff.be/alsaconf ; It's a shell script. Run it. It will reconfigure alsa. This may or may not help. If not, I'm out of ideas; sorry.07:24
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xzekutionczer323: kickbutt07:25
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xzekutionty!07:25
ArrenLexJairun: run it with sudo.07:25
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katehow do i run a .bin file?07:25
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smaxi get this error when i pull a  sudo apt-get install build-essential  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZJrbPW60.html07:25
JairunCalotharren: thanks for the help. I'll try the script. All my other drivers have been updated. And I attempted to update the alsa driver, but it''s really been a pain in the ass.07:25
ArrenLexkate: sudo chmod +x <file.bin> to give yourself permission to run it. Then just ./file.bin07:25
xzekutionsudo apt-get impeachbush07:26
ArrenLexJairun: attempted to update it from where?07:26
Healotxzekution, invalid operation07:26
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ArrenLexsmax: what does mldonkey have to do with build-essential?07:26
xzkI tried to help07:26
JairunCalotharrenlex: using info from the forums07:26
katearrenlex, thanks07:26
strikybekomme unter mplayer oder xine kein quicktime dateien abgespielt kann mir bitte jemand helfen bin neu in ubuntu  habe schon den libquicktime0 codec installiert klapt aber nicht habe auch noch dieses packet w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386 mit gdebi intalliert klapt immer noch nicht07:26
ArrenLexsmax: try "apt-get remove mldonkey-server" before you install build-essential.07:26
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smaxArrenLex:  thanx pal.  i'll try that07:27
eclipse75.... if the gnome partition manager hangs on a partition resize... im going to be very pissed07:27
JairunCalotharrenlex: I uninstalled and reinstalled alsa07:27
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katehow do i make a folder writable?07:27
katewhats the chmod command?07:27
eclipse75kate, man chmod07:27
eclipse75:)07:27
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tkmy bluetooth stopped working when I tried switching hubs... now neither work ......07:27
xzkHow do I install WIne :)07:27
ArrenLexJairun: okay; "apt-get install alsa alsa-utils" and then run the script with sudo.07:27
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MukundaAnyone here running Ubuntu on a PPC mac? And can the OS X filesystem be easily resized?07:28
kateahhh07:28
katethats a lot to read :(07:28
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JairunCalotharrenlex: running the script now07:28
smaxArrenLex:  now i get this  error  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nfz8sB47.html07:29
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smaxhmmm07:29
ArrenLexWow.07:29
xzkDoes anybody use uTorrent?07:29
kateokay i tried : kate@kate:~$ sudo chmod +w /home/kate/games07:29
smaxi primarily need glibc   and glib.h07:29
ArrenLexStubborn donkey.07:29
katestill not writable?07:29
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xzkI Love John Legend.07:29
kateit has the lock symbol next to the file07:29
katewhat should i do07:30
ArrenLexkate: paste the output of "ls -l /home/kate/games"07:30
smaxArrenLex:  is this going to be tricky?07:30
Andre_GondimDoes anybody can tell me how do I forward my internet for my clients?07:30
katetotal 1607:30
katedrwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2006-10-02 20:04 armyops07:30
katedrwxr-xr-x  7 root root 4096 2006-10-03 00:00 enemy-territory07:30
katedrwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 2006-10-04 20:48 privgold07:30
katedrwxr-xr-x  5 kate kate 4096 2006-10-04 22:05 warsow07:30
katekate@kate:~$07:30
Healot!paste07:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:30
smaxlol07:30
kateArrenlex, is that what you wanted?07:31
kelseyhey guys - so, what's up with dapper/alsa ?07:31
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ArrenLexkate: not really. How about "ls -l /home/kate/ | grep games"07:31
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crimsunkelsey: that's pretty vague. Mind making your question more precise?07:31
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JairunCalotharrenlex: no change07:31
katearrenlex: drwxr-xr-x 6 root root      4096 2006-10-04 22:04 games07:31
eclipse75hmm ubuntu is definetly not resource friendly....07:32
Bassettshow can i open a microsoft publisher file?07:32
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smaxeclipse75:  i agree07:32
xzkHow do I install Wine :(07:32
ArrenLexkate: what's your username on your system? kate?07:32
kateyup07:32
bimberi!wine07:32
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:32
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kelseyie, alsa is fubar on dapper after an apt-get update/upgrade07:32
kelseyall of the forums are plagued with people bitching about the same thing07:32
katearrenlex, yes07:32
kelseyso, I came here to bitch on irc07:32
crimsunkelsey: that's still pretty vague. What doesn't work?07:32
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kelseyhow's that?07:32
xzkty bimberi!07:33
kelseynevermind then07:33
katearrenlex, its kate, and computer name is kate07:33
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eclipse75you just need a hug kelsey07:33
Andre_GondimDoen anyone can tell me how do I do to my client pc browser in the internet07:33
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rylasasinok how do I get my mp3s to play in the ubuntu music player?07:33
crimsunI love when people don't even bother explaining the problem and expect others to magically deduce what's wrong.07:33
ArrenLexkate: do this: "sudo chown kate /home/kate/games && sudo chgrp kate /home/kate/games && sudo chmod -R 777 /home/kate/games"07:33
smaxAndre_Gondim:  apt-cache search firefox07:33
bimberibassets: as i understand it, no go.  You probably have to save in some intermediate format from Publisher itself07:33
pinPointwhats a good way to search for text in a folder with files?07:34
bimberixzk: np :)07:34
smaxArrenLex:  how can i get this donky off my machine ?07:34
xzkbimberi: how do i add supositores07:34
eclipse75rylasain, they disabled mp3's so you gotta get some codecs yourself07:34
pinPointhow do i pass it with grep07:34
katearrenlex07:34
ArrenLexsmax: I don't know o_o07:34
eclipse75just google it and youll be fine07:34
bimberixzk: um ...07:34
katearrenlex, thanks07:34
ArrenLexkate!07:34
ArrenLexxD07:34
xzklol07:34
Andre_Gondimsmax: no, I am in ubuntu server, I want to active ip forward, but I dont remember how can I do this07:34
ArrenLexkate, you're welcome.07:34
ArrenLexDid it work?07:34
bimberi:)07:34
kateyes thanks07:34
ArrenLexGood to hear.07:34
xzkbimberi: repositores07:34
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eclipse75google "ubuntu mp3" and it should return something for ya07:34
bimberi!repositories07:34
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:34
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ArrenLexAll that did was change the owner of the file and the group of the file to "kate" and then give everyone write permissions.07:35
xzkbimberi: dang I was hoping you would explain :(07:35
kateyeah i just didnt know how to do it07:35
ArrenLexYou might want to adjust those permissions if "everyone" is too loose for you.07:35
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xzkin great detail - how to add supositories07:35
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smaxAndre_Gondim: what do you mean IP forward?  do you have multiple nic cards ?07:35
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ArrenLexstyx (stax? or whatever): how about "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all mldonkey-server"?07:35
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eclipse75... ubuntu is pissing me off07:36
ArrenLexsmax. Close enough.07:36
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Mukundaeclipse75: why?07:36
kateeclipse75, why07:36
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eclipse75eatting all my system resources and taking forever to resize my slack partition07:37
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Andre_Gondimsmax: I am in a ubuntu server now, and I have a sub-net, my sub-net cannot browsing in this moment, I formated the server07:37
bimberixzk: you could try ubotu - /msg ubotu whatever07:37
kateeclipse75, do you like slack?07:37
eclipse75<-- almost loyal slack user07:37
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smaxdoes this subnet have a route ?07:37
eclipse75i did, but some things i like about ubuntu07:37
lucaferr!!easysource07:37
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:37
Mukundaeclipse75: throw on fluxbox?07:37
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Andre_Gondimsmax: the route is my ubuntu server07:38
smaxare you saying your ubuntu server is operating as a router?07:38
Andre_Gondimsmax: yeah07:38
smaxahh07:38
eclipse75ermm im running on the live cd right now07:38
xzkubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
eclipse75so thats part of the problem07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
smaxAndre_Gondim: hold up ive done this before...07:38
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kateokay im out07:38
katethtanks for the help07:38
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kateall07:38
Andre_Gondimsmax: ok07:38
kateim such a noob07:38
eclipse75but 256mb ram minimum? thats an unfriendly number07:39
eclipse75kate, give it time. the more you screw up, the more you learn07:39
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djuusseclipse75, for server its 32mb ram minimum07:39
Healotmost modern rigs have more than 1GB imho07:39
smaxAndre_Gondim: do this.  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TmVFPH62.html     i did this on my Debian box.  but ubuntu is debian based so i this outa work07:39
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eclipse75heh yeah and they are probably used a stripped down kernel with either a low end gui or no gui07:40
eclipse75use twm :P07:40
djuussi'm not saying corporate server, but your home mail/printserver07:40
eclipse75yeah07:40
smaxassuming you have properly configure subnet masks and ip adresses07:40
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djuussyour 333mhz p2 with 32 mb ram and a 5gb harddisk07:40
Andre_Gondimsmax: I cannot see a page, just irc right know07:40
smaxoh ok07:41
eclipse75heh07:41
eclipse75yeah i need to get a junk computer and get smoothwall07:41
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holycowhttp://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/08/26/upstart-in-universe07:41
holycowinteresting article07:41
eclipse75+ a 10 port switch07:41
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smaxAndre_Gondim:  first do this.   echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward07:41
djuussguys im stuck, this is getting out of hand07:41
eclipse75whats the issue?07:41
smaxAndre_Gondim:  then emacs or vi  into /etc/network/options07:41
djuussit works fine, but only for root07:42
FlannelAndre_Gondim: or nano07:42
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djuusswhen logging in to the GUI as a normal user, it says that /home/$user doesnt exist, and if it does work it quits instantly over some other obscure permission thing07:42
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wickedpuppysmax, you got that file ? cause i don't07:43
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djuussmkdtemp private socket dir or something07:43
smaxAndre_Gondim:  i dont know where on ubuntu network options but the Debian equivilance is /etc/network/options07:43
smaxand you have to edit ip-forward to yes07:43
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Icaruscan someoen help me with a gtkpod problem07:44
holycowsmax, as ubuntu freezes off of debian unstable every 6 months everything is in the same place07:44
Icarusi cant sync07:44
Andre_Gondimsmax: and then I can do iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE, ok?07:44
IcarusYou did not import the existing iTunesDB ('/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'). This is most likely incorrect and will result in the loss of the existing database.07:44
rylasasinnow if only I could figure out how to get ytmnd to work (requires quicktime)07:44
Icarusit keeps giving me that message07:44
djuusswhats a good IRC client that doesnt use X ?07:44
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wickedpuppydjuuss, bitchx07:44
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djuussk ill get that after these updates07:44
holycowbiatchx worksgreat for me indeed07:44
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Icarusdoes anyone know how to fix it?07:45
rylasasindoes anyone know how to get quicktime to work?07:45
wickedpuppy!quicktime07:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:45
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djuusswhat happened to xorg.config etc ?07:46
djuussor xorg-config07:46
wickedpuppydjuuss, what happened to what ?07:46
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djuussthere used to be some script that would make xorg.conf for you07:47
Healotdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:48
holycowdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?07:48
holycowdoh!07:48
djuussthats the one!07:48
djuusswell, two07:48
Healotminus the ?07:48
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djuusshey this doesnt seem right07:48
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djuussis the AGP bus generally called  PCI:1:0:0 ?07:49
eclipse75umm is there something wrong when im still waiting 10 minutes later for a partition resize for only 1gb from a 18gb partition?07:49
mjrdjuuss, if there's only one other PCI bus, generally yes07:49
Healotdepends on where BIOS sees it07:49
rylasasinno no I meant quicktime PLUGIN not quicktime player07:50
rylasasinthe thing that makes Mp3s play off the net07:50
Icaruscan someone help me with gtkpod?07:50
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rylasasinor wavs07:50
Icarusi have work in a couple hours and i want to get these songs on my ipod07:50
eclipse75icarus, weren't you from the ##slackware channel?07:51
Icarusno07:51
eclipse75hrmm07:51
eclipse75wrong icarus then07:51
Healotrylasasin, a couple namely; mozilla gxine plugin or that mozilla mplayer plugin07:51
Icaruscan anyone at slackware help?07:51
eclipse75mmm more than likely07:51
Icaruswhen i try and sync with gtkpod i get You did not import the existing iTunesDB ('/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'). This is most likely incorrect and will result in the loss of the existing database.07:51
holycowif you don't get banned first,maybe?07:51
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holycow>_>07:51
wickedpuppyIcarus, if its not ubuntu specific feel free to ask in any distro channels07:52
eclipse75the people from ##slackware are pretty nifty07:52
rylasasinhow do I veiw YTMND and hear musicfrom it? it requires the quicktime plugin it seems07:52
holycowits hard to support things like gtkpod ... as it syncs witha proprietary device that we have no access to07:52
holycowif we cant open up the hood and look, don't be too optimistic we can help07:52
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holycowyour best bet is actually gtkpod forums directly07:52
eclipse75going on 15 minutes for a partition resize now...07:53
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holycowadditionaly, if google returns no results for that error07:53
djuusshow do you kill x softly? as in, without ctrl-alt-backspace07:53
sidny4I have dual monitors connected to my geforce 7600 in my desktop, will configuring dual monitors for it be a pain? I haven't tried it yet07:53
wickedpuppysing killing me softly .. by fugee07:54
holycowthere is virtually 0 chance a human will be able pull someything so esoteric out of their brain, considering the chances that you may actually find a human that even has run into that issue07:54
jlduggerdjuuss, /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:54
holycow:/07:54
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ArrenLexdjuuss: maybe you're more versed in the ways of homicide than me, but I don't think it's possible to KILL something "softly".07:54
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ArrenLexme -> I07:54
djuusshey that only killed one of them07:54
djuussi had 2 running07:54
djuusshow do i kill the one on :107:54
eclipse75woo finally done07:55
djuuss/etc/init.d/gdm stop07:55
jlduggerinteresting queston07:55
jlduggeri have no idea07:55
djuussmt07:55
Icarusso theres nothing i can do?07:55
zachhave a question, what does signal 8 mean in reference to a hard drive specifically "Warning... fsck.ext3 for device /dev/hdg1 exited with signal 8."07:55
wickedpuppyzach, i would google on that07:55
Icarusis there another program for ipods?07:55
jlduggerIcarus, banshee?07:55
wickedpuppyitunes ?07:55
zachdid, comes up with stuff not refering to hard drives07:55
Icarusdoes rythmbox let you transfer ?07:56
Icarusi've tried banshee jldugger it never transfers07:56
wickedpuppyzach, what was your search phrase ?07:56
IcarusYou did not import the existing iTunesDB ('/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'). This is most likely incorrect and will result in the loss of the existing database.07:56
Icaruswhat does that mean?07:56
zachhard drive signal 8 and "fsck.ext3 for device /dev/hdg1 exited with signal 8." and "signal 8"07:56
Icarushow do i import it?07:56
holycowIcarus, please google07:57
holycowand stop repeating07:57
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holycowi know you are going to work but its clear no one knows07:57
Icarusi have07:57
sidny4I have dual monitors connected to my geforce 7600 in my desktop, will configuring dual monitors for it be a pain? I haven't tried it yet07:57
ArrenLexsidny4: using what driver?07:57
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holycow!dual07:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
holycow!nvidia07:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:58
jlduggeri dont own an ipod, but supposedly banshee has one click sync to ipod07:58
ArrenLex!randomwordspossiblyrelatinginsomewaytoperson'squeirytoavoidhavingtoactuallyansweranyquestions07:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about randomwordspossiblyrelatinginsomewaytoperson'squeirytoavoidhavingtoactuallyansweranyquestions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:58
ArrenLexAw. I was sure that would work.07:58
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holycowsidny4, i can give you my config file but not until tommorrow07:58
holycowthe system is at the office07:58
sidny4I haven't installed any drivers yet07:58
holycowyou can bug me during the day sometime if you like07:58
wickedpuppyhard drive signal 8 and signal 9 is sure wrong  .. zach try fsck.ext3 for device /dev/ exited with signal 807:59
holycowbut you need the nvidia link i posted first to install nvidia binary drivers from repos07:59
sidny4I was just wondering how much of a pain in the butt it would be to do07:59
sidny4ok07:59
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holycowthen you need to properly configure your xorg.conf file ... i can give you mine for reference tommorah07:59
wickedpuppysidny4, nvidia is easy .. wait till you use ati07:59
eclipse75isnt chmod already recursive by default?07:59
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ArrenLexwickedpuppy: I hear you. ATI is the spawn of satan.07:59
holycowone would hope you never haveto deal with ati07:59
wickedpuppyeclipse75, nope .. you need -R07:59
eclipse75crap08:00
sidny4I'll stik with nvidia08:00
jlduggerIcarus, have you had a look through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto ?08:00
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djuusshey im in terminal Vi'ing through my xorg.conf.. how do i save my chagnes with vi?08:00
wickedpuppyLOL08:00
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fdsdany know of a good ide ata100/133 raid card, PCI?08:00
zachsignal 8 is an operational error08:00
wickedpuppydjuuss, :w to write .. :wq to write and quit08:00
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zachso wtf my hard drive is shot?08:00
djuussk08:00
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holycowzach, well no one can really answer that question.  driver fail.  all the time.  really.  brand new ones too.08:01
djuussand what in the Display section of xorg.conf do i change to enable 1600x1200 @ 80hz?08:01
holycowdrivers even :/08:01
THX-1138zach - Did you get an error from the gparted/installer partitioning software?08:01
djuussbecause i'm getting a headache watching 1024x768 @ 60hz08:01
sidny4ok, one last question, anyone know how to get ubuntu setup to recognize my RAID 0? I heard something about dmraid08:01
wickedpuppydjuuss, if you scroll down enough you will see08:01
ArrenLexdjuss: have you modified your xorg.conf extensively? If not, it'd be easier to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, methinks.08:01
holycowdjuuss, no, you neeed to first google your monitor model and make ... and find the CORRECT horizontal and vertical refresh rates08:01
THX-1138djuus - Have you seen ubotu's link?08:01
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THX-1138!display08:02
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:02
holycowdjuuss, then in xorg.conf you insert the horizontal and vert refresh rates08:02
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djuussk ill dpkg-reconfigure it again08:02
holycowdjuuss, then restart x and you will have full resolution options for your particula monitor model08:02
holycowdjuuss, don't08:02
holycowthat won't help08:02
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sidny4!dmraid08:02
zachwhatever the partition software in ubutnu is called, it can see the hdd and the partition, but unknown size and fs type08:02
ubotudmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB08:02
holycowdo what i told you08:02
ArrenLexdjuuss: or just go with medium difficulty in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the refresh rate you want.08:02
djuusssec switching terminals08:02
sidny4!raid08:03
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO08:03
THX-1138holycow <perk> - i might just learn son\mething.08:03
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ArrenLexholycow: any particular reason you're biased against reconfigure?08:03
holycowArrenLex, because if your monitor detectio failed once it will fail again08:03
THX-1138holycow - Ah, Okay. quite right.08:03
ArrenLexholycow: well sure. But his monitor autodetected fine if it was set up properly. The resolution and refresh rate are set manually.08:03
holycowactually no it wasn't08:03
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ArrenLexholycow: did I miss something?08:04
holycowthats the reason he o nly has 60hz available at minimum refresh rate08:04
djuussit failed because of some arguments i added the first time08:04
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holycowyou need the proper full refresh rates for your monitor in your xorg.conf file then restart xorg08:04
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holycowthat will give him all the possible resolutions and refresh rates available for his monitor to select via gui after x restart08:04
THX-1138ops, now i am easily confused and 60 hz min refresh sounds reasonable.08:04
ArrenLexholycow: I assure you that the refresh rates can indeed be set manually, if you specify medium difficulty screen configuration. I've done it.08:04
jlduggermy edgy xorg.conf ignores resolution options until i restart x =(08:04
rylasasinanyone know how I can get the quicktime plugin?08:05
zachholycow, and THX-1138 - also, when I put hdg1 in fstab for automounting at boot-up, it gives me this error instead of a signal 8 - "EXT3-fs: unsupported inode size: 0"08:05
djuussnow, i'm worrying about it saying my video card is in PCI:1:0:008:05
ArrenLexdjuuss: "lspci" will tell you were your card is.08:05
holycowArrenLex, i'm not really arguing with you at all .. thats fine.   but until he googles his  monitor ... how will he know what the refresh rates are?08:05
holycowproper ones anyway08:05
jlduggerapparently he can do 1600x1200@80hz08:06
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ArrenLexholycow: if he knows for sure that his monitor won't explode at 80hz, which I'm assuming it won't, he can choose 1280x1024@80hz in the medium options and be fine.08:06
THX-1138zach - too new to know. but to me that sounds like a formatting error. - descriptor table not written??08:06
ArrenLexOr whatever resolution he wants.08:06
holycowArrenLex, please stop arguing about stupid shit08:06
holycowjesus08:06
ArrenLexo_O08:06
holycowdpkg reconfigure works08:06
rylasasinhow do I get compiz? and dont' point me to the xgl room cause no one there is answering08:06
eclipse75think 5000mb is enough room for the root partition excluding /home?08:06
holycowadding correct refresh rates is the PROPER way of doing it08:06
Healot!compiz08:06
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:06
djuussok reconfigure worked08:06
djuusswhats /dev/wacom ?08:07
ArrenLexautomatic != improper. o_O08:07
holycowuntil we get a gui for autoassigning all that stuff like in suse08:07
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ArrenLexdjuuss: a tablet. If you have one.08:07
holycowdude, shut the hell up already.  your information is correct.  my information is correct.08:07
jlduggerdjuuss, tablet input. should be fine with it in even if you dont have one08:07
THX-1138holycow - You have been here a long time and i trust you.08:07
holycowhe can choose whichever way he wants08:07
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holycownow shut the hell up and stop talking to me.08:07
zachTHX-1138, hmm, dont know, it was formated and was used for like 6 months now so this is just a sudded random thing08:07
djuussstartx fails because it cant find /dev/wacom -.-08:07
z3r0xhi @ all08:07
ArrenLexdjuss: then go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and comment out the wacom tablet section.08:07
z3r0xhow can I search a networkprinter?08:07
jlduggerinteresting08:07
djuussyeh ill do that08:08
czer323lol, when the lights go dark, everything goes bat shit crazy!08:08
holycowTHX-1138, naw don't trust me, i make lotsa mistakes, google up the answers i dish up to make sure :)08:08
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jlduggerdjuuss, comment it out then08:08
THX-1138zach - when you open a dictionary and search for linux noob my picture is there beside the definition.08:08
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zachah08:08
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holycoweveryones a noob08:08
czer323I love being a n00b08:08
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jlduggerlinus might not be a n00b08:08
holycownext version of ubuntu is getting a new init it seems .. sysv is being replaced with upstart08:08
myesterioushi08:08
holycowyay! back to square one08:09
holycow>_>08:09
myesteriouswho r using MPlayer ?08:09
czer323Linus is definately a newb08:09
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zachwell I guess I'll look for some ext3 recovery software08:09
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jlduggerholycow, and /bin/sh is gonna be dash08:09
myesteriousi cannot find "repeat" option08:09
holycowzach, you didn't backup /home?08:09
czer323Upstart btw, is amazing.  Super fast starts and shutdowns.08:09
holycowjldugger, oh yeah right, that bit me on the ass the other day08:09
holycow>_>08:09
jlduggerheh08:09
zachit's not a /home partition it's my "media drive"08:09
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jlduggerwell, it is beta. hopefully you submitted a bug report ;)08:10
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ArrenLexCan someone explain why /bin/sh -> dash? It seems to me this will break a ton of scripts in really-hard-to-troubleshoot ways.08:10
jenda-lappyhello08:10
rylasasin*sigh* I give up08:10
jlduggerArrenLex, the best argument ive heard is that it speeds up ./configure in many cases08:10
holycowzach, yah, sounds like your repartitioning borked something ... if that was you up there doing that08:10
jlduggerAnd really, /bin/sh is supposed to be any POSIX compliant shell08:10
ArrenLexjldugger: would it not be easier, then, to ask developers to use dash for ./configure scripts?08:10
zachholycow, no wasn't partitioning anything08:11
djuussstartx still dies08:11
jenda-lappyWhat is the difference between the normal mode and recovery? ie. This PC works only in recovery mode since yesterday, and I'm not aware of any changes I made.08:11
rylasasini've been trying and trying and trying and trying to get XGL/Beryl to work but nothing at all08:11
zachit just gave that inode error and startup one time and then I tried to run fsck to check it08:11
myesteriousWho can use repeat on MPlayer ?08:11
ArrenLexjenda: recovery mode means to HUI.08:11
czer323recovery mode is typically all root command line stuff.08:11
zachcan't mount it08:11
ArrenLexHUI -> GUI08:11
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jenda-lappyArrenLex, HUI?08:11
jlduggerArrenLex, i have no idea. maybe they intend to make an even faster shell, and wanted to iron out bugs now rather than later =/08:11
eclipse75on partitioning, is there any way how i can take two sets of unallocated space and merge them?08:12
ArrenLexMaybe. Well, they're the bosses.08:12
djuussWaiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.08:12
holycowzach, hard to say really, could be lots of reasons.  are you mounting it via some usb cradle maybe?08:12
djuusswhat does that mean?08:12
zachnope, ide08:12
ArrenLexdjuss: that's not an error. It doesn't crash your X. There should be something above that.08:12
holycowperhaps you are hosing your fstab entry then? if you had a usb cradle you could let the system handle the intricacies08:12
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djuussArrenLex: It's not saying anything else.. is there a -verbose option for startx?08:13
zachcould be but it's the default fstab with the install of the system and it worked before, only change I made was take out the hdg1 entry to allow it to boot08:13
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ArrenLexdjuuss: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:13
link_36pIm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and i keep getting lockups when its retrieving the packages08:14
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holycowzach, hard to say from here ... sorry i wont really be able to guess this one.08:14
zach/dev/hdg1       /media/hdg1     ext3    defaults        0       208:14
THX-1138djuus - would there be a log in /var/logs or /xfree86?08:14
holycowlink_36p, are you sure its a lockup or the screen just goes blank?08:14
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aztekso i'm trying to uninstall GAIM and Ubuntu wants to remove the entire Ubuntu Desktop08:14
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jenda-lappyArrenLex, what is HUI? Wikipedia won't tell.08:14
link_36pHolycow, it just stops at a package and nothing will happen unless i eject the CD08:14
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holycowi just installed on a lappie and my cd goes blank at the end ... i had to wait for the hd activity to cease, hit the enter key half a dozen times and the cd pops out and system reboots08:14
crimsun'ubuntu-desktop' is a removable metapackage that doesn't hurt anything, aztek.08:14
ArrenLexjenda: A typo. I meant GUI.08:15
jenda-lappyaha08:15
wickedpuppyjenda-lappy, did you see his second message ?08:15
ArrenLexSee? (00:12:11) ArrenLex: HUI -> GUI08:15
wickedpuppyhe said HUI -> GUI08:15
aztekwerd08:15
aztekthanks08:15
wickedpuppyLOL08:15
The_Jack_of_Clubwhat does installing the 686 kernel have over the 386 kernel? cause when i tryed to install and boot from the 686 kernel i couldnt get xserver to run ontop of it and had to boot back into the 386 one08:15
jenda-lappywickedpuppy, ArrenLex, sorrry didn't see that.08:15
holycowlink_36p, i'm  betting you have a bad cd... reburn another one?08:15
The_Jack_of_Clubis it faster or something?08:15
variantaztek: what command are you using?08:15
eclipse75is there any way how i can merge two sets of unallocated space?08:15
jlduggercrimsun, what about dist-upgrades?08:15
jenda-lappyI see it now.08:15
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ArrenLexSorry to cause you the trouble of searching for it. xD08:15
THX-1138djuus - Yes, i think i see a log in /var/log/xorg08:15
link_36pive installed from this cd before though :(08:15
crimsunjldugger: it's recommended to reinstall 'ubuntu-desktop' for dist-upgrades, yes.08:15
jenda-lappyArrenLex, both recovery and normal use GUI... but what could cause the OS not to start?08:16
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holycowlink_36p, cds fail too ... do you have another systaem/hd to test that cd install on to eliminate hardware issues with the lappie?|08:16
shinobi2how do i check how much swap space i have08:16
azteki'm using the synaptic package manager08:16
ArrenLexjenda: I assure you recovery mode starts into a root command line. And a million things could cause the OS to fail to start.08:16
variantshinobi2: free -m08:16
THX-1138Hello crimsun. - always glad to see you here.08:16
The_Jack_of_Clubmem[Physical : 630MB, 69.8% free | Swap : 1482MB, 89.8% free] 08:16
crimsunhi, THX-113808:16
holycowjenda, what ArrenLex says is correct08:17
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djuussArrenLex, the log doesnt give any more info08:17
ArrenLexdjuuss: pastebin it.08:17
link_36pholycow > ya i did test it and it worked fine on another computer :(08:17
THX-1138djuus - take a peek at the xorg log in /var/log - posting would be cool.08:17
zachThe_Jack_of_Club, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/6350-i386-vs-i586-vs-i686.html08:17
The_Jack_of_Cluboh cool thanks08:17
zachgoogle my friend08:17
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ArrenLexGoogle is the friend of all! :D08:18
holycowlink_36p, i've seen that happen once in a while, what kind of laptop ... maybe its known not to work? have you checked the wiki for laptop support ... there is a great section there with a list of known working lappies?08:18
zachyeah08:18
djuussArrenLex: How do i pastebin without X?08:18
rylasasinand now its fucked so now i'm back to kubuntu08:18
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rylasasin*sigh* I failed... ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH08:18
jenda-lappyArrenLex, holycow, can't confirm. Just started in recovery mode, according to grub, and got GNOME nicely. I'll try again as soon as apt finishes an update.08:18
THX-1138erm posting -eek - i meant pasting it to post it on the ubuntulinux paste site08:18
tuxtheslackerhey. I just got a psc 1610, and I don't know if the cartridge is out of cyann, or if it's the driver on linux :-/.08:18
ArrenLexdjuuss: how are you on IRC right now?08:18
jenda-lappy!language > rylasasin08:18
holycowjenda, you are definately not in recovery mode08:19
ArrenLexjenda: did you press ctrl+D when it asked for a password?08:19
link_36pholycow, its an acer aspire08:19
holycowyou are maybe in gnome safety mode or whatever it is08:19
jenda-lappyholycow, strange, then.08:19
THX-1138ArrenLex - irssi?08:19
holycowlink_36p, i have those .... 3620?08:19
djuussArrenLex: Bitchx, ill go on lynx08:19
rylasasinI've been trying for 2 hours to install xgl/Beryl for my friends at school but it messed up08:19
THX-1138w3m - will let you see webpages.08:19
jenda-lappyArrenLex, nope. I don't remember it asking. In fact, I believe it only restored a previous session when I clicked recov. mode.08:19
holycowrylasasin, were you expecting it to work?08:20
holycowrylasasin, if so, you didn't do your research08:20
ArrenLexjenda: the recovery mode I'm thinking of isn't clicked, it's selected in grub. Maybe you're thinking of something else.08:20
rylasasinwell yeah it works in the youtube video08:20
The_Jack_of_ClubYes, Recompiling your kernel using the I686 instructionset will speed things up. <- thats what i wanted to know08:20
The_Jack_of_Clubnow if only i could get xserver to run on it08:20
holycowxgl is just a pre alpha project ... itsnot meant for anyone but developers .. ?08:20
hangfirewhat is a good channel for IRC questions?08:20
jenda-lappyArrenLex, holycow the last shutdown was caused by empty batteries. Sorry, I didn't mean clicked, I meant selected in GRUB.08:20
jenda-lappyhangfire, #help08:20
rylasasin... they could have told me that ahead of time08:21
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variantrylasasin: its alpha software, not worth messing with at teh momment imo08:21
rylasasinyeah i'm mad08:21
holycowjenda-lappy, why are you selecting gnome safe mode ... you can't log in normally?08:21
THX-1138variant ""08:21
ArrenLexdjuuss: sorry man, I have to go to sleep. I'm sure holycow can help you. =P08:21
holycow!aiglx08:21
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.08:21
hangfirejenda-lappy- I want to know how to sign in to NickServ, thats not in help08:21
djuussgahhh i would have been done already if i had just re-installed08:21
aschonwould anyone know why when trying to install it stalls out on trying to create the live cd user?08:21
aschon(daper)08:21
holycoweveryone should be keeping an eye on aiglx .. .thats the future of eye candy.  the only people supporting glx is novell and they are on their own on that08:21
The_Jack_of_Clubhmm08:22
aschondapper*08:22
jenda-lappyholycow, nope, it wouldn't start. No identifiable error message.08:22
jenda-lappyhangfire, yes it is. I lead the channel :)08:22
THX-1138hangfire - /msg nickserv help ??08:22
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djuussOk screw it i'm gonna re-install by the book this time08:22
The_Jack_of_Clubheh08:22
holycowjenda-lappy, then you did the right thing.   going into gnome safe mode will letyou do a system upgrade08:23
brittcan someone explain or direct me to an explaination of how to create a small beowulf cluster08:23
holycowyou can also do that from ctrl/alt/f1 prompt08:23
djuusswell not really, i'm gonna crutch-download an edgy iso as root in x08:23
brittor some cluster kinda like SMP over LAN08:23
holycowto get back to your desktop it would be ctrl/alt/f6 or f7 or something08:23
jenda-lappyholycow, am doing.08:23
jenda-lappywill try again in a sec.08:23
jenda-lappykernel update. Could change a lot.08:23
variantbritt: http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/08:23
aschonno ideas?08:24
djuussits so frustrating, X works just fine when i sudo08:24
THX-1138britt - You might find a simpler option for experimention in a bootable cd - there are a couplle of them out there.08:24
holycowdjuuss, at least this experience will teach you to ALWASY create a backup copy of any config file you decide to touch08:24
jlduggerbritt: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Beowulf-HOWTO/ ?08:24
holycowthat has bittem me many many times :)08:24
variantbritt: note the panel at the side including a link called "howto"08:24
djuussholycow, it taught me never to sudo startx, i didnt touch the configs till now08:24
variantdjuuss: what is the problem?'08:24
rylasasinhmmm ok now that I know that xgl doesnt' work.... how can I get YTMND to work? I think it needs quicktime08:24
rylasasinit doesn't need flash I tried that already and mp3s still dont' play08:24
aschonflash08:24
THX-1138holoycow - He crashed his machine spent hours trying to sort it out and he gets scolded?? - Ouch!08:25
aschonnot quicktime08:25
rylasasinits not flash08:25
brittvariant: is this as simple as getting installed machines on a network? they auto-config?08:25
rylasasinthats newgrounds08:25
aschonno?08:25
djuussVariant, my normal users run into permission problems when trying to run X08:25
aschonyeh newgrounds too08:25
holycowTHX-1138, it was meant as a joke!08:25
djuussbut sudo startx works just fine08:25
rylasasinyeah your thinking of newgrounds08:25
holycowsorry didn't mean to sound rude!08:25
holycowlol djuuss appologies08:25
holycowthx for head up THX-113808:25
rylasasinnot YTMND08:25
variantbritt: what THX-1138 says it true.. if you want a quick and dirty cluster there are live clustering cd's available (instantly create a cluster on any netork!)08:25
britthmm08:25
rylasasin(YTMND uses animated gifs and Streaming WAVs/Mp3s)08:25
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variantdjuuss: please explain08:25
holycowdjuuss, you know, instead of fiddling, just reinstall.  backup your xorg.conf then fiddle away.  it will be faster than tracking this down08:25
rylasasinthe gifs work, but the mp3s and wavs dont08:26
brittuse extra workstations at my office to take over the world?08:26
variantbritt: if you install it manualy then you will have a fair bit of configureation to do and fine tuning.. it can be a lot of work08:26
dementtWhii, ubuntu working and settings have been done. Kernel compiled and sun is shining. Now let the battle begin. dementt VS ATI-drivers08:26
holycowbritt, indeedy, as variant said, just pop some live cd in and go08:26
brittcool08:26
holycowbut that sorta stuff is really for special workloads08:26
rylasasinwhen I wined the windows Firefox it said it needed quicktime08:26
holycowvery very few pieces of software can actually run that way anyhow08:27
variantbritt: it's really not worth it unless you are planning some very cpu intensive multi threaded tasks08:27
brittholycow: yeah i think im starting to see that08:27
brittOh08:27
holycowwhat variant said08:27
djuussHolycow, read:P, Variant: at first boot, i got a terminal, not GDM. For some strange reason i decided to sudo startx instead of just startx. Now, users cant login through gdm, because they dont have permission to do <well, i'm not sure>08:27
britti was also intrested in doing somehing with bootable CD images08:27
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variantbritt: its good for rendering but there are distributed rendering projects that are optimised for that08:27
brittIE, install a linux distro08:27
brittand make a CD image of my installation onto a DVD or something08:28
docgnomeis there a tutorial detailing how to share a printer across a network with an OS X box from Ubuntu?08:28
holycowdjuuss, how weird.  i don't really know where to begin except to say you are in a pickle08:28
holycow>_>08:28
variantbritt: you can turn any installed system into a live cd/dvd which a set of scripts08:28
holycownot very helpfull i know, i'm sorry08:28
rylasasinunless I need somnthng else to play MP3s off of websites08:28
brittor make a hd image to boot from?08:28
THX-1138britt - Sounds like fun. been meaning to do it too, though haven't done it yet.08:28
djuusssec coming on root-x xchat08:28
britthd image that uncompresses onto a ramdisk like knoppix or something08:29
variantbritt: the best ones i have found are at linux-live.org. they produce ultra fast live cd's.. much faster than the ubuntu live cd and with all your own programs/setup08:29
jlduggerrylasasin, it probably depends on the page. maybe if you installed totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin08:29
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holycowdocgnome, google up cups and printer sharing over network ... you will need to configure your cups config file manually to get it to work unfortunately for now08:29
holycowwe don't have a gui to do that for you yet08:29
rylasasinhttp://moskaudance.ytmnd.com/ like here for instance08:29
djuussGUIroot>.<08:29
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variantholycow: what about gnome-cups?08:29
britttoo bad there isnt a program for linux like deepfreeze for windows08:29
docgnomeholycow: I came here cause I've been fiddling with the thing for a while08:29
djuussGUIrooti think i simply broke all of ubuntu08:30
holycowthat just sets stuff up locally, it has none of the advanced cups stuff guified08:30
rylasasinoh and i'm on the Kubuntu drive using gnome08:30
holycowi wish i had a few hundred million dollars id hire people to write this stuff my self08:30
holycowheh08:30
rylasasincause the xgl fisaco fucked up the other install08:30
britti'd be all over it08:30
variantholycow: no, but it can do network printers08:30
rylasasiner rats08:30
variantrylasasin: mind yer language08:30
rylasasinsry08:30
THX-1138britt - You will need info i think on "Casper" and the "squashfs" also the file grub needs for hardware info.08:30
rylasasincouldnt help it08:30
djuussGUIrootbecause i used a 5.04 cd to install, logged into X as root, then patched it to 6.06. Now noone but root has permissions anywhere.08:30
holycowvariant, what do you mean DO network printers?08:30
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holycowit can certainly ACCESS network printers08:30
variantrylasasin: xgl is alpha software, if you choose to install it and it messes up your system its your own fault'08:30
holycowis that what he was asking? i though he wanted to share a printer off a linux box WITH an osx client08:31
variantholycow: you can configure and use a networked printer with it08:31
holycowin which case it most certainly DOES NOT do that08:31
brittTHX-1138: is this the answer to my Q on deepfreeze-ish prog for linux08:31
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holycowvariant, please stop saying stuff before reading what write08:31
holycowthank you08:31
holycow:)08:31
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docgnomeholycow: aye, OS X client.08:31
variantholycow: ah, wasnt really paying attention :http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/)08:31
variantholycow: chill out08:31
THX-1138britt - We are off-topic so make the question short before the hammer falls.08:31
Healotholy cow!08:31
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holycowvariant, i'm pure chill bro, people misunderstand text ... the metadata doesn't carry over08:32
brittah its alrigth08:32
holycowi'm smiling infact ... can't you tell?08:32
holycowhehe :)08:32
britti'm lost08:32
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tkanyone familiar with bluetooth?08:32
variantgrr, i hate typing on an ibook g4.. keep copy/pasting random text witht he touch pad08:32
Healottk, my tooth are white :)08:32
THX-1138!bluetooth08:32
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup08:32
holycowheh yeah , that one got me too08:32
varianttk: mine are white.. mostly08:32
THX-1138tk - Did that help?08:32
jlduggerbritt. its simple, you get your cluster, set em up in a network and put in a cluster computing live CD08:33
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tkTHX-1138: thanks... ill check it out (mine stopped working after hooking up a new hub -- even the old hub wont work now)08:33
djuussGUIrootwhats the difference between desktop and alternate when downloading 6.06 iso's ?08:33
Rastasomeone here has tried crossover office over wine or vmware?08:33
holycowbritt, what do you meant?08:33
The_Jack_of_Clububotu is pretty helpful :)08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is pretty helpful :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
holycowwhy the hell doyou need deepfreeze for linux?08:33
The_Jack_of_Club!vmware08:33
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare08:33
djuussGUIroot!alternate08:33
holycowthats really just wrong08:33
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.08:33
holycowits a seriously bad idea first08:33
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hayden!cluster08:33
holycowsecond08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
variantbritt: what does deepfreeze do?08:33
holycowsetup your linux box right and no one can do jack08:33
djuussGUIroot!desktop08:33
ubotuThe available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.08:33
holycow:)08:33
rylasasinwhen I tried to install that plugin you mentioned It says "break (install)" and wont let me install08:34
holycowanything deepfreeze can do you can setup on linux already08:34
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THX-1138tk - yes, too fragile. Maybe umounted the wrong way.08:34
holycowif you want to reinitializehome dirs no prob, simple script08:34
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holycowyou want reset stuff, no problem simple script08:34
jlduggerheh, deepfreeze = unionfs + mount / ro + tmpfs ;)08:34
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rylasasinI cant install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin help!08:34
variantjldugger: what is deepfreeze?08:35
holycowyou want to backup the entire os .. no problem setup a backup process ... or do somehing like stuffing into cvs or whatever the latest code management tool is08:35
laskaGuys, how do i install tar.gz file? I did unpack it, but can't compile. [make]  don't work08:35
holycowthe basic ideas is FORGET EVERYTHING YOU LEARNED ON WINDOWS08:35
holycowits wrong08:35
holycowit doesn't apply and most of the ideas are just bad08:35
variantlaska: apt-get install build-essential08:35
jlduggervariant, its a windows program, afaik, that prevents users from touching the hard drive, because windows was retarded for a long time08:35
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holycowand you can usually do everything already via the gobs of tools you have for free08:35
variantjldugger: lol08:35
laskat.y.08:35
rylasasinwell the idea of makeing it easier to use ammong common people wasn't wrong08:36
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THX-1138Good night all! - Thanks again.08:36
holycownite08:36
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djuussGUIrootwhats the easiest way to burn a .iso to a cd, no bells and whistles?08:36
rylasasinits the bugs it broght along with it and vulnerabilities that was wrong08:36
brittvariant: oh man! okay deepfreeze takes your windows install and makes a small image, and restores from that image at every boot08:36
holycowrylasasin, no it is wrong  because deep freeze does some very very nasty things08:36
brittso you always have a fresh instance of windows08:36
rylasasinoh I thought you meant just windows08:36
holycowwindows idea of 'ease of use' is not really 'ease of use'08:36
Healotcdrecord >> surely no whistles and bells08:36
holycowwindows 'ease of use' is actually '15 + years of training'08:36
variantbritt: oh yeah, christ.. why you need that on linux? just dont allow system changes with permissions.. no need for stupid hacks like that08:37
holycowmost people mistake 'familiarity with a particular way of doing things' with 'ease of use'08:37
djuussGUIrootok thanks healot, at least i already have that installed08:37
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holycowvariant, 'xactly08:37
Rastawhen IE its running trough vmware it can acces the apache server installed on linux?08:37
brittvariant: well phpbb is my reason. ive been hacked over and over again. I would like something i could turn on and leave on, and when it gets hacked i restart08:37
variantdjuussGUIroot: cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdrom filename.iso08:37
rylasasinanyway how do I get totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin synaptic and adept arent' letting me do it08:37
brittsomething like that. I hardly find phpbb2 to be secure.08:38
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Madpilotbritt, "Don't run phpbb" seems like an even saner solution...08:38
holycowRasta, depends on your networking config.  if everything is setup right, the answer is yes but it will do it over the virtual network vmware sets up08:38
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djuussGUIrootthanks variant. It's all coming back to me slowly, been a while08:38
laskahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25715/08:38
variantbritt: if it gets hacked it means that somone has found a flaw and is exploiting it.. if you replace the hacked system with exactly the same system it will be hacked within seconds of rebooting08:38
holycowbritt, vmware.com08:38
holycowcheck out vmware server, its free to use08:38
holycowits not open source but it costs nothing08:38
brittMadpilot: seems like a good idea to me, which is why the reason why I took it off of my linode08:39
holycowyou can setup as many virtual servers as your hardware can handle08:39
tkTH08:39
jlduggerphpbb is about as bad as windows as far as security08:39
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variantbritt: and what about your database?08:39
Healotfree beer for all virtualizations08:39
holycowyou take snapshots ... and when you get hacked you just roll back the entire os08:39
variantbritt: will that not accept new users?08:39
brittvariant: what about it?08:39
holycowyou can also use xen or other things08:39
variantbritt: will that be part of the disk image too?08:39
Madpilotnight all08:39
holycowbritt, forget any of that windows nonsense :)08:39
tkTHX-1138: worked, thanks :) will just setup my stuff command line the first time :)08:39
MZMhow can I get dbase support for PHP5?08:39
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variantbritt: there are alternatives to phpbb..08:39
brittholycow: dude, i havent ran windows in over three years08:39
jlduggervariant, the db is probably not on the server running phpBB08:39
brittstraight.08:39
Rastaholycow, ok, what i want to know its if a website that im testing locally in apache can be accesed by both, the linux native browsers and IE running trough vmware08:39
holycowMZM, that is a #php questio nactually08:40
holycow:)08:40
Rastathanks08:40
holycowbritt, sweet :)08:40
variantjldugger: by default.. it is08:40
brittI love it, i was *SO* tired of re-doing crap every three months08:40
MZMholycow: well - it's on Ubuntu08:40
holycowRasta, yes they can, no problem at all08:40
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Rastaexcellent08:40
holycowMZM, that makes no difference08:40
brittI have a OLD 1.7Ghz P4 system with Rambus ram that has been running and playing music for weeks now with no hiccups08:40
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MZMholycow: I dont ask how to use it, buth how it is done in Ubuntu08:40
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holycowsetting up a particular individual package is generally an area of expertice requiring specialized knowledge ... this is just a general ubuntu chan probably wont find the help here.  i'm just trying to be helpfull thats all.08:41
djuussGUIroothaha britt i have one of those08:41
djuussGUIrootthe first p4 :P08:41
holycowMZM, its done the same as in any distro, php config doesn't change actually08:41
brittdjuussGUIroot: yep. 2 bad caps caused major issues. resoldered caps and its stable, i'll wait till it dies.08:41
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MZMholycow: you mean - recompile?08:41
Phlostenold p4? wow, now i feel like i am on an ancient machine i still run an athlon 1.6Ghz as my main workstation :)08:42
vanhtu1987Hi, will someone answer this question please ? Does the kernel support image blitting in console ?08:42
brittI'm still waiting for my p3 800 board to die lol08:42
holycowbritt,  this here is a 1.4 ghz thunderbird system used as a home desktop system08:42
variantvanhtu1987: tile blitting?08:42
rylasasinhttp://moskaudance.ytmnd.com/ what do I need to make the sound play on this site... isn't flash I have that already08:42
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holycowit does everything, i have no need reason to get rid of it :)08:42
variantvanhtu1987: if thats what you mean then yes i think it does08:42
vanhtu1987no, I mean support displaying images ?08:42
holycowMZM, generally no, on debian/ubuntu you just install the php package then the right modules08:42
djuussGUIrootman that thing cost me an arm and a leg, i also got the first geforce 3 in it08:42
variantvanhtu1987: yes, using hte frame buffer08:42
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brittI have a ibook next to me (g3) but I cnat get wifi here at the office08:42
vanhtu1987hte ?08:42
variantvanhtu1987: for example, you can watch a movie full screen without x on the fb08:43
MZMholycow: so - back to my first Q: which one?08:43
variantvanhtu1987: using mplayer08:43
djuussGUIrootjust that geforce was as expensive as the ps3 when it just came out 0_o08:43
holycowMZM, i won't be able to tell you exactly what package you need for php5 but i do know all you would need is to installed prebuilt packages.  i'm sorry i cannot be more specific than that.08:43
vanhtu1987can you please give me a direction/link ?08:43
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vanhtu1987I've used mplayer for video playing but that was only in ASCII08:43
wickedpuppyMZM, actually if you search for php in synaptic you could see ... nvm :P08:43
variantvanhtu1987: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_MPlayer_on_Framebuffer08:43
rylasasinhttp://moskaudance.ytmnd.com/ what do I need to make the sound play on this site... isn't flash I have that already08:44
holycowmzm  apt-cache search php5 should give you a good start you can muck about with08:44
holycowphp5-odbc  might help if thats how you are accessing dbs08:44
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vanhtu1987thanks, my actual question is: I have w3m and installed w3m-img, in X terminal the images were displaying perfectly, will it be possile in console ?08:45
wickedpuppymind ya .. mysql has its own php5 package .. unless i am wrong08:45
variantvanhtu1987: not that i am aware of08:45
holycowi think it does but i'venot done any php stuff in yhears08:45
variantvanhtu1987: it may be though..08:45
variantvanhtu1987: i have never seen it08:45
krautmoin08:45
variantvanhtu1987: there is a small x implementation for embedded devices you could use at a push i suppose08:46
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rylasasinhmmm looks like its just wavs that need to find out how to get to play off the net08:46
variantrylasasin: you have mplayer plugin or somthing for firefox?08:46
vanhtu1987variant: ok, thanks anyway. apt-cache show w3m-img gave me a hint that w3m-img supports inline images in X terminal and 'Linux frame buffer'' ? I wonder what does 'frame buffer' mean ?08:46
vanhtu1987lsmod said 'fbcon' and 'vesafb' modules were loaded.08:47
variantvanhtu1987: its direct access to the graphics cards frame buffer.. if your card is supported (probably is) then that should work'08:47
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variantvanhtu1987: thats a good start :)'08:47
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holycowtime to rebootie08:47
variantvanhtu1987: test it with mplayer -vo fb file.avi08:48
holycowlets see if upstart successfully replaced initv here :)08:48
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rylasasindidn't08:48
Rastaone more doubt, a virtual machine like vmware when using it it takes the half of the pc resources?08:48
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variantRasta: vmware or other simmilar software generaly use as little resources as possihble08:48
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vanhtu1987variant: thank you, I'll try that. I'l come back with w3m later.08:48
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variantRasta: its normaly possible to get modified guest os's to run with minnimal slow down.. like 4% drop in performance08:49
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variantvanhtu1987: gl08:49
rylasasinI have mplayer plugin but thats not helping08:49
rylasasinvariant08:49
fateisajesterhe y i just went to walmart and decided to get a video card so that i can have 3d acceleration. before i open the box i wanted to ask if anyone know weather or not it will work. it is a geforce mx400008:49
variantrylasasin: sorry, cant really help then.. you could try one of the other plugins.. there are many08:49
Rastavariant, ok, but for example i need it to use photoshop managing a lot of images and using memory extensively, thats not a problem then, or its configurable08:50
rylasasinlike what?08:50
variantfateisajester: yes it will work, you will need to isntall nvidia drivesr though'08:50
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jlduggerrylasasin, totem-xine-firefox-plugin =/08:50
rylasasinI don't know what to try, i'm just a simple windows convert trying to prove that linux CAN be used in the real world.08:50
fateisajesterdo you know where i can read up on that>08:50
variantRasta: vmware or other simmilar programs are really not designed for that kind of work08:50
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jlduggerrylasasin, it can be, looks like you just picked a bad day =(08:51
variantRasta: performance will not be optimal imo.. i have never tried it with photoshop though so ymmv08:51
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Rastavariant, ok, ill try, this is the last shoot to dump windows or i will stay with both OS on my pc08:51
variantjldugger: I have allready proved that gnu/linux can be used int he real world...08:51
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AyabaraIn fc5 I had to add a couple of lines to /etc/yp.conf, saying 'domain <name> server nis'. can't find yp.conf in ubuntu. is the file named something else, or isn't the configuration the same?08:52
variantRasta: is it photoshop you need only?08:52
Rastayes08:52
Khamaelshouldn`t there be a ubuntu-aiglx channel?08:52
variantRasta: then you are SOL08:52
holycowvariant, i'm switching our company of 200 desktops to ubuntu08:52
holycowoh yes indeedy it can be done08:52
variantKhamael: #ubuntu-xgl08:52
RastaSOL?08:52
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variantKhamael: for both xgl and aiglx08:52
holycowwhat do you mean?08:52
holycowgimp is a fine ps replacement08:52
Khamaelvariant: ok08:52
variantRasta: sh#t out of luck :/08:53
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variantholycow: hardly08:53
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holycow*cough*08:53
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Rastahaha08:53
variantholycow: but lets not start that argument08:53
holycowscuseme punk?08:53
holycow:)08:53
Rastaholycow, yeah hardly08:53
holycowi use it in production ... albeit not print :)08:53
brittis there any use for a huge HP NetServer these days? 3x9.1GB SCSI RAID 5 array08:53
robI'm sure I could give it a good home at least :)08:53
variantfor simple images or modifications to photos it is adequate but for any advanced stuff it is a pita08:54
holycowyeah all ps users say that08:54
Rasta:(08:54
variantbritt: yeah, post it to me08:54
holycowi've tested out all those users08:54
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holycowthey usually know jack shit08:54
MistaEDrylasasin: i use photoshop 7 under wine, even works properly with the tablet08:54
brittvariant: huh?08:54
holycowand are not willing to learn new ways of doing things08:54
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avagant_guys so far i like fluxbox, cept aterm things.08:54
variantbritt: i have used gimp for about 5 years..08:54
avagant_!aterm08:54
ubotuaterm: Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1 (dapper), package size 77 kB, installed size 224 kB08:54
holycowps users are basically too arogant to let go of their warez08:54
laskais there channel where newbie can get info?08:54
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variantholycow: and i have used ps for about 208:55
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holycowvariant, i've used ps since about ps3 or 408:55
brittvariant: awesome man, gimp is cool08:55
jlduggerholycow, understandable, given that their profession is built  upon using this horribly complex piece of software ;)08:55
holycowi cannot remember when i started08:55
rylasasinhmmm totem-xine-firefox-plugin works, but its fuzzy08:55
holycowi used to be a professional graphic designer before i decided that i didn't like my clients thinking they knew more about design than me08:55
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variantbritt: gimp is ok, I dont like it though08:55
holycowyep gimp and cmyk don't mix, but there isn't a lot else it can't do.08:55
holycow variant that is usually what it comes down to08:56
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holycowpeople don't like but08:56
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avagant_i wish photoshop came with linux08:56
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holycowit has nothing to do with it not being good enough08:56
holycowits a stupendously capable tool08:56
Rastait does08:56
brittvariant: is tehre anythign 'better' than gimp? I think its too....bloated for light tasks08:56
avagant_actually photoshop is pretty bloated.08:56
holycowif anyone needs a ps replacement it can really really do a bangup job, especially if you forget the ps shortcuts and learn the new ones08:56
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rylasasinnot to mention expensive08:57
jlduggerrylasasin, which is partly why I suggested gstreamer.  unfortunately it currently depends on something that isn't in the repos at the moment.  might be up tomorrow. or ask in #ubuntu-motu why totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin is broken08:57
variantbritt: kpain, xpaint, tuxpaint, there are a bunch of vector editors too that are nice08:57
chemajakrita?08:57
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brittcool08:57
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MistaEDvariant: i've tried to use the gimp recently, compared to photoshop it's not bad08:57
headcrashhey, I've created a user, but I can log in as that user because I haven't set a password for it. How do I do that?08:57
britti'm out fellas, later! thanks for all the help :)08:57
avagant_yah, too bad when i got this computer with windoze it came with photoshop already installed.08:57
holycowyou REALLY REALLY haveto force your self to use gimp08:57
variantMistaED: its all personal preference'08:57
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avagant_I can't figure out gimp, all the menu's are crazy.08:57
holycowi will freely admit that it took a looooooong time to RELEARN that08:57
iamtheobjectheh, my girl asked me to install ubuntu after she played with the desktop one I have, I gace her the disk and said put it in and click the install button08:57
iamtheobjectheh08:57
jlduggerbut man i really hate the multiwindow layout. ps isn't any better though =(08:57
holycowonce you learn ps, man it is harder than giving up crack08:57
MistaEDsome things i have trouble with is trying to adjust the brush size more than 19x19 and the brush editor wouldn't let me click on anything to make it bigger08:57
headcrashUSE THE GIMPSHOP PLUGIN TO MAKE IT FEEL MORE LIKE PHOTOSHOP08:58
Rastadude, this PHotoshop-gimp argument always its the same08:58
halex-ablol08:58
iamtheobjecttwo days later pratically computer stupid person using ubuntu for everything08:58
czer323holycow, i think it's because we're soooo used to photoshop. i mean, hell if they started putting the steering wheels on the other side of the car, we'd all throw fits.08:58
avagant_there's a gimpshop plugin?08:58
holycowbut once you get it, the gimp designers are right, the gui actually is pretty darned good and very fast ... plus or minus a few things08:58
holycowczer323, imho i agree 100%08:58
headcrashavagant_, yes. google it. best thing you'll do all day.08:58
MistaEDthe gimp works far better with layers/alpha maps than photoshop does though, far better08:58
halex-abto me, it's just the lack of plugins..08:58
holycowit took me about 1.5 years to get my brain around08:58
mjr(it's not a plugin)08:58
czer323avagant_, not a plugin.  different install of gimp with different layouts similar to photoshop08:58
holycowyour right, its like a mindsuck ...08:58
rylasasinlol08:58
variantholycow: lol, the gimp developers are programmers not artists. they are arogant as anyone i have ever seen to boot08:58
headcrashso anyway, I need help - how do I set a password for a user that I've created, but has no password?08:59
holycowvariant, actually thats not quite true08:59
variantholycow: #gimp on irc.gimp.net and you wills ee what i mean08:59
holycowvariant, i used to think that too08:59
Rastavariant, thats the problem08:59
holycowoh i know i'm banned08:59
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holycow:)08:59
vanhtu1987headcrash: passwd [username] 08:59
rylasasinnot to mention PS costs an arm and a leg08:59
Rastammm08:59
variantholycow: i have spoken with them many times. i know exactly what i am talking about08:59
holycowthey may be jackasses but they actually know workflow quite well08:59
headcrashvanhtu1987, thx08:59
rylasasinmore than a new computer these says almost08:59
halex-abheadcrash, or sudo -u <user> passwd08:59
czer323I think a lot of linux stuff needs to seriously undergo usability studies.  i mean, yeah, it may do everything in the world, but without being relateively easy to do... Who wants to use it?08:59
holycowits  not as bad as people say the situation is08:59
djuussGUIrootwhoot 6.06 downloaded :D08:59
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holycowvariant, like i said, i'm banned08:59
djuussGUIrootgoodbye irc as root !08:59
avagant_I really want to learn aterm.08:59
holycow:)08:59
krautCEO of redhat died :(09:00
Rastaholycow, then why people dont use gimp09:00
djuussGUIrootnow i gotta find an empty cd09:00
Rastaif youre good youre good09:00
variantholycow: why are you banned?09:00
holycowRasta, from personal experience as an ex graphic designer for years09:00
rylasasini agree with czer32309:00
variantavagant_: what do you want to learn exactly?09:00
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holycowRasta, i decided to switch because i really like open source and if i wanna preach it i gotta know it09:00
jlduggerczer323, i think the usabiltiy studies are what's killing gnome's nautilus09:00
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holycowit took me about 1.5 years to remap the knowledge in my mind ... or get used to it09:00
djuussGUIrootdude, RedHat is what got me into linux :S redhat 9 as a 12 yr old, it didnt bother me that it didnt work with my DSL line, it was so shiny and pretty compared to WinME09:00
holycowonce you use ps ... it is very hard to unlearn09:01
czer323jldugger> how so?09:01
Naked_SnakeTommorow, fellows, I'm gonna go to war with a bottle and emerge victorious09:01
rylasasinamen to that09:01
holycowmy only issue with ps users is that they refuse to admit that09:01
czer323holycow> that's because it's so intuitive. ;)09:01
holycowi have no problem with someone saying its hard09:01
holycowczer323, actually its not09:01
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Rastaholycow, i undersnat that, really, but not everybody has 1.5 years to "get used to it"09:01
holycowczer323, people are mixing up metaphors09:01
avagant_variant: Well I see all these people with fluxbox and their transparent awesome aterms.09:01
holycowinfact i know think ps is unintitive09:01
holycowthe gimp ui is very vey well organized09:01
variantavagant_: its very simple'09:01
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djuussGUIroothehe09:01
holycowwhat people call 'intuitive' they mistake for '10 + years of using it and memorizing it'09:02
rylasasinI thnk ubuntu has got to make things more automated09:02
jlduggerczer323, well, spatial nautilus for one09:02
holycowthere is a funny thing i have noticed in our transition to linux09:02
Rastaflame graphic wars!09:02
djuussGUIrootthis is the same discussion as Notepad users saying ' omg VI is so counter-intuitive'09:02
holycowusers DON'T learn how to use a ui09:02
holycowusers MEMORIZE  ui09:02
holycowthats it right there09:02
czer323jldugger> spatial is disabled by default in ubuntu.09:02
RastadjuussGUIroot, true09:02
halex-abholycow, indeed09:02
rylasasinEG: less useage of the terminal and mroe usuage of automatic installers09:02
variantavagant_: read the manpage but for a tester here: aterm -trsb -tr -tint cyan -fg red09:02
holycowthe problem is that people haveto FORGET the ps ui and MEMORIZE  new one for the exact same thing09:02
holycowmemorizing is a lot of work09:02
czer323jldugger, and it's actually a similar feature to mac's finder.  top right has a button to hide all the extra fluff, aka shortcuts, back buttons etc.09:02
avagant_it doesn't change it for me.09:02
holycowinstead we need to work on teaching people how to LEARN A UI09:02
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variantavagant_: it has been a long time since i used it so the -tr may not be correct.. thats just off the top of my head09:02
holycowits a whole other thing09:02
holycowinfact09:03
halex-abbut it isn't gonna happen..09:03
holycowphotoshop works the same on a mac as gimp does on linux ... i.e. its not mdi09:03
holycowyet we get all windows ujsers comming in saying why gimp isn't mdi09:03
avagant_variant: that's awesome. so i guess i have to - the transparency to make it work.09:03
halex-abthen again, there's more windows users than mac..09:03
Rastaholycow, gimp needs a lot to reach the PS functionality09:03
variantholycow: thats rediculous.. a UI by definition should require minimal teaching. it should be obvious. look at the gnome human interface guidelines09:03
czer323holycow> teaching people something would cost too much time for people.  Which is why you make products FOR people.  They want to do things.  Not learn how to do things.09:03
Rastathats a fact09:03
variantavagant_: sorry?'09:03
holycowwell duuuh ... the question translates to 'why do i haveto memorize this when i spent all that time meorizing that'09:03
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rylasasinagreed with rasta09:04
holycowRasta, not true.  outside of channel bit depth and cmyk, what does it need?09:04
halex-aband in the end, give up if the ui is too radically different..09:04
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avagant_variant: It doesn't usually stay for me, maybe i'm just not doing it right.09:04
djuussGUIroothey quick, cdrecord, howto?09:04
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holycowvariant, actually i used to think that, but its wrong09:04
avagant_variant: like if i change the title or something, it doesn't stick.09:04
djuussGUIrootcdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw <filename> ?09:04
holycowyou haveto understand learning styles09:04
variantavagant_: ah, put it in .bashrc09:04
djuussGUIrootits an iso, its got to go on a cd09:04
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holycowi don't want to argue, i do want to say that the key revolves around people 'memorizing spatially where the ui icons are'09:05
holycowthe dont learn how to 'use a ui'09:05
avagant_variant: What about .Xdefaults?09:05
variantlol09:05
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jlduggerczer323, removing the location bar in favor of the boxes seems to have pissed one guy off who's gone about claiming gnome is slowly copying older and older versions of Mac09:05
variantavagant_: hmm, it was so long since i set this up :) yes Xdefaults is what i mean!09:05
holycowits not a one way street, as much work as needs to be done on a ui end of things, as much work needs to be done by the user to learn the tool09:05
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vanhtu1987variant: thank you, this is perfect :) I've got w3m working09:05
avagant_variant: hahaha09:05
Geoffrey2rylasasin, it seems to me there's this fundamental debate in the Linux community as to which direction the movement should be going....09:05
berentwhen i start dapper i get error :This program cannot start until you start the dbus system service.09:05
berentIt is strongly recommended you reboot your compter after starting messagebus.09:05
variantvanhtu1987: excellent09:05
avagant_!w3m09:05
ubotuw3m: WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is standard. Version 0.5.1-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1036 kB, installed size 1816 kB09:05
czer323jldugger> uh, you can turn the location bar back on.09:06
rylasasinactually I think that while Ubuntu has done good so far with this (better than windows in some ways), it needs to get even more easy to use when it comes to updates and plugins and installing things09:06
avagant_!fluxbox09:06
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox09:06
sidny4I'm using the live CD to recover some stuff from my raid 0 partitions09:06
holycowrylasasin, it cannot get easier09:06
sidny4how do I mount so that I can read and write?09:06
avagant_I really like fluxbox though, now if I could only step it up right the way I want to.09:06
rylasasincause people see terminals and it tells them that its hard to use09:06
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sidny4I'm using dmraid09:06
holycowrylasasin, any easier and everyone will be running as root09:06
czer323jldugger, or just hit ctrl-l to start typing in the folder you wanna go to.09:06
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rylasasinlol09:06
holycowrylasasin, what you are basically is saying is the same thing as microsoft09:06
variantrylasasin: yeah, installing software should be simpler on all operating systems. windows has a good idea but badly implemented09:06
berentany takers here09:06
holycowthat convenience trumps security09:06
SoftIcehello, how to I install php-pcntl on dapper, there are no packages maching my disciption09:06
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berenton power manager09:06
avagant_I had kde but it made my computer run about as fast as the old apple sitting in the garage.09:06
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SoftIcei'v even tried --include-pcntl09:06
holycowin which case, people should jus tuse windows ... the virus infested crap heap it is09:07
variantberent: you have dbus installed?09:07
czer323jldugger, hell, next time you're in nautilus, notice how you can type the folder's name and it will highlight.  hit enter, it's in that folde.r  Way easier than remembering exact spelling of folders without seeing them.09:07
sidny4how do I mount a partition with read/write using dmraid?09:07
berentvariant: i dont know09:07
variantberent: perhaps dbus is crashing09:07
jlduggerczer323, yea, autocomplete is nice09:07
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sidny4I can mount it, but I can't write to it09:07
berentyes09:07
variantberent: run /etc/init.d/dbus start09:07
berentwhat to do09:07
Rastaagain, thinking as a programers and not as "standard" to say it in some way, users09:07
SoftIceDoes anyone know how to install PHP-PCNTL on Ubuntu Dapper, the package no longer exsists ?09:07
czer323jldugger> not just autocomplete.  that's been around forever.  Just navigating and selecting folders in nautilus.09:07
holycowRasta, thats wrong too09:07
holycowyour statement is heavily biased09:08
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variantSoftIce: if there is no package you will probably have to compile the source09:08
berentvariant : i started it09:08
berentvariant:shud i reboot09:08
SoftIceI'm wondering if PHP-CLI has it included?09:08
holycowyou are making assumptions about learning styles that a) are incorrect and b) you arent even making any attempt to find out whether or not this is an issue09:08
czer323jldugger, which is why I applaud the fact that linux is becoming easier to use.  Why should things be hard to use?  Would you make kids goto a school to learn things the hard way when there are newer better ways of doing thigns?09:08
czer323aka, graphic calculator or using pen and paper?09:08
variantberent: berent hmm, possibly'09:08
czer323if it's easier... why not use it.09:08
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holycowthat one has really bit me over the last year during our pilot projects09:08
variantberent: take a look at the log iles though09:08
variantberent: type dmesg09:08
avagant_I saw somebody browsing the web with a xterm/aterm and instantly broke out in a cold sweat.09:09
czer323Wow, this isn't offtopic? ;)09:09
variantberent: also "less /var/log/messages09:09
avagant_I thought to myself, wow.09:09
tkhmmm well, one more problem to over come with my bluetooth hub now... how to get it to reconnect when its plugged in09:09
Shadowpillarsometimes, when you dont have the new methods, the old "harder" methods are the best way to fix things09:09
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rylasasinI mean I think you could put it in a computer illiterate persons home or in a business office that doesn't use anything else except the tools that come with it and they will use it with no problem09:09
variantavagant_: yeah lynx in aterm  is nice :)'09:09
tkie, unplugged/plugged back09:09
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Rastaholycow, thay are just facts, the only people that use linux are geeks mostly09:09
jlduggerczer323, he's just a kde fanatic, and i partly agree. it just seems like changes occur not because they're better but because thats how os9 did it09:09
czer323avagant_, uh, would you really want to use a term for internet?09:09
avagant_czer323: Yes, and I have.09:09
jlduggerbut i hear nautilus is running low on maintianers09:09
CharonXDoes anyone know how I can move the close window "X" from the right corner of all the application windows to the left corner ? I cannot find anything like that in the preferences but I know it can be done. Anyone have an idea ?09:09
avagant_!lynx09:09
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache209:09
avagant_Wait.09:10
halex-abRasta, do I really look like a geek from waay over there?09:10
halex-abheh09:10
holycowRasta, not facts.  thats just bias.  i wont convince you of it unfortunately as irc really doesn't exceed beyond one pimping their own ideas into empty space09:10
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varianttk: what do you mean?09:10
jlduggerCharonX, its a window Theme thing. you'd have to make your own theme or find one that does that for you.09:10
variantavagant_: that doesnt really list even most of them09:10
djuussGUIrooti use linux because i cant help it09:10
tkvariant: if i unplug the dongle, and then plug it back in, it wont reconnect my devices09:10
varianttk: thats a problem..09:10
djuussGUIrooti cant stand windoze for more then 3 months09:10
rylasasinbut to the home user (where the real market is) its still hard to use it seems09:10
varianttk: what make is it?'09:10
holycowthe sad part is the situation is a lot better than it seems, but people are so convinced this is a geeks domain they belive stupid things like programmers cannot build good uis09:10
holycowheh09:10
holycowah weel09:11
CharonXjldugger, Thanks, that is what I thought, but none of the default themes had it moved. Guess its theme hunting for me. Thanks again09:11
Rastaholycow, ok dude, this discussion take us to nowhere09:11
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czer323avagant_ why would you WANT to use a term browser unless X woudlnt' start?09:11
holycowwell even09:11
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HealotdjuussGUIroot, I have been using windows since Windows 3.109:11
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tkvariant: I have a logitech and a unicorn adapter09:11
czer323There's no possible reason.09:11
holycowRasta, congratulations captain obvious09:11
Healotstill i know my Windows :)09:11
varianttk: gimmie a momment09:11
holycowyou do know you are on irc right?09:11
berentvariant:btw whats this dbus for09:11
avagant_czer323: Just to do it?09:11
tkvariant: ok thanks :)09:11
berentvariant:for hal09:11
djuussGUIrooti'm a fish in the water with windows, dont get me wrong09:11
czer323avagant_> I can pick my nose and put my boogers on my girlfriend, but is it really that good of an idea?09:11
Rastalol, thats it a linux fan09:11
variantberent: its a message passing system, takes a message from one prgram and passes it to annother or from system to system/service etc09:11
Rastaall are the same09:11
Shadowpillarpersonally I find the newbie zealotism hilarious in here09:12
avagant_czer323: Yes?09:12
ShadowpillarI believe most of that goes to #ubuntu-offtopic09:12
tkwoah, the volumen up key on my keyboard opens Calculator.... interesting09:12
djuussGUIrooti just prefer getting lost in sea over knowing everything there is to know about my little aquarium09:12
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berentvariant:ok lemme reboot and see nothing much in logs09:12
rylasasinhmmm when will there be a 586 version and 686 version of ubuntu?09:12
varianttk: lol09:12
variantberent: ok09:12
Shadowpillarubuntu gets the job done in the quickest most efficient way and it's cost effective, that's why I use it.09:12
holycowone mans zealot is another mans enthusiast :)09:12
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holycowits good to see noobs being excited09:12
jlduggerberent, its a way to notify programs of events like a new usb mass storage drive was plugged in (by passing messages informing interested programs that an event has occured)09:13
Shadowpillarryanakca: there is.09:13
Shadowpillarare09:13
Shadowpillarrylasasin: there is09:13
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czer323Linux seriously needs to become easier to use before it's mainstream.  For example, TRY to setup dual monitors.  I can tell you in like 5 steps how to do it on mac or windows.  Why is it so hard to do on linux?09:13
unfknblvbl!iso09:13
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows09:13
Shadowpillarit's called installing the linux 686 kernel09:13
djuussGUIrooterrr its not that easy on windows either09:13
unfknblvbl!dvd09:13
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:13
varianttk: if you unplug it and plug it in what does dmesg say?'09:13
holycowczer323, it doesn't even  haveto become mainstream09:13
jlduggerShadowpillar, i think he means building the packages for i68609:13
rylasasinlol09:13
tkvariant: let me check09:13
unfknblvblwhat can i use to burn ISO ?09:13
jlduggerwhich wont happen any time soon09:13
holycowczer323, i don't see why it has to become mainstream to begin with09:13
Shadowpillarczer323: because of how X is designed, X wasnt meant for many modern day uses09:13
holycowwhos goal is this?  why do you want joe windows user that doesn't care about security to use linux?09:14
rylasasinsee its that idea holycow that makes people think that linux is just geek based09:14
Geoffrey2czer323, the question becomes, does the Linux world WANT the O/S to become "mainstream".....I think the jury's still out on that one09:14
avagant_I like taking screenshots with the terminal.09:14
varianttk: is the hub detected but not hte devices attached or nothing not even the hub is detected?09:14
Shadowpillarpeople argue X is the best way to go and keep it at that, yes, X works, but it has some things about it that make it extremely antiquated09:14
holycowi think its enough to just get a slice of the pie, big enough to get hardware manufacturers to pay attention and play nice09:14
djuussGUIroot<unfknblvbl>, cdrecord /dev/cdrw <filename>09:14
variantGeoffrey2: it is mainstream lol09:14
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czer323Geoffrey2, yeah, i'm going to work on something for free... for a reaaaaaly long time, and i don't want anyone to care.09:14
holycowrylasasin, i don't think so, its not exclusionary09:14
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Shadowpillarto be fair I've never noticed any speed differences between 386 binaries and 686 optimized binaries09:14
djuussGUIrootok whatever, geeks09:15
Shadowpillar64 bit is where you'll notice some change09:15
holycowrylasasin, the idea of something being 'easy' to use is usually based on some pretty bad assumptions09:15
djuussGUIrooti'm re-installing09:15
variantShadowpillar: yeah, 0.5% difference if that :P09:15
unfknblvbldjuussGUIroot: ty09:15
avagant_You can't really do much with lynx though.09:15
tkvariant: hub is detected09:15
czer323i agree with variant, Linux is trying to become mainstream.09:15
Shadowpillarvariant: what? with 64 bit?09:15
holycowlike for example the expectation tha ta user should be able to administer a system without actually understanding the consequences of their actions09:15
jldugger"Linux" isnt trying to do anything09:15
variantczer323: it is mainstream ffs lol09:15
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djuussGUIrootand honestly, windows and linux both have a steep learning curve, just with windows theres not much to learn09:15
holycowwhat jldugger said09:15
Shadowpillarvariant: or 586/686 optimization09:15
tkvariant: pasted the 3 lines in /msg to you09:15
eclipse75linux is just linux09:15
holycowdjuussGUIroot, thats not true actually09:15
eclipse75it isnt trying anything09:15
rylasasinin what contry varients09:15
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holycowwindows has been around for so long everyone has 'memorized th eui09:16
rylasasin*cariant09:16
jlduggerUbuntu may be, GNOME & KDE might be09:16
variantShadowpillar: yeah you might see a reduction in performance for some apps on 64bit'09:16
unfknblvbldjuussGUIroot: it failed09:16
holycowthats really waht it is09:16
czer323variant> it's just well known.  that doesnt' mean mainstream for desktop users.  I do wonder what the number of actual desktop users is for linux.09:16
eclipse75its just a project of thousands of computer enthusiasts09:16
czer323I know that mac is like 5-6% of all computer users.09:16
djuussGUIroot<unfknblvbl>, be more specific09:16
holycowlinux is no harder, its just that people haveto 'remember a whole ton of new stuff' and thats hard work09:16
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mjrvariant, not too likely with x86(_64)09:16
unfknblvbldjuussGUIroot: hang on i'll try somethnig else first09:16
varianthey lets all go to #ubuntu-offtopic09:16
holycowanyway what is this 'typical desktop user' this 'mainstream' people talk about09:16
holycowi don't think ther eis such a thing09:16
jlduggerholycow, even for a lot of people, the only thing they have to remember is their password and how to use firefox09:16
czer323mvoing to offtopic09:17
eclipse75linux is healthier though. due to more power to the user and better features ;)09:17
rylasasinand if you DO make it mainstream... eh maybe america isn't the best place to start09:17
holycowi think there are a whole ton of niches that that can be chopped into09:17
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djuussGUIrootlike i said, a distro like ubuntu/suse/mandriva is just as hard to learn as windows, its just that everyone already knows windows09:17
holycowjldugger, which begs the question, which part of that is hard on linux?09:17
djuussGUIroot<unfknblvbl>, apt-get install k3b if you want easy burning09:17
Geoffrey2czer323, I think the question is "Can you make Linux an operating system that a majority of the computer users out there would use, without losing what makes Linux...Linux?"09:17
varianttk: do you have usbview installed?09:17
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Healothardware driver for some fancy hardwares09:17
tkvariant: not that I know of, let me check09:17
czer323Geoffrey2, Define linux then... In the offtopic room ;)09:17
Healotlike wifi, camera, 3d accelerators etc09:17
holycowGeoffrey2, my answer to that is its already here09:17
holycowBUT09:17
Healotthat the main issues atm09:18
varianttk: lsusb too'09:18
avagant_It's funny that lynx doesn't like google.09:18
eclipse75but for learning linux to its extent, ubuntu or mandriva or suse are not distros of choice (in my oppinion)09:18
avagant_Or maybe it's the other way around.09:18
jlduggerholycow, the part where you cant install gstreamer-plugins for firefox because someone uploaded it dependent on -ubuntu4 when only -ubuntu1 is available =)09:18
variantavagant_: works here09:18
tklsusb, I have, just installed usbview09:18
djuussGUIrootHealot: My webcam doesnt work on windows, it works on ubuntu out of the box09:18
variantavagant_: trye links and links2 also09:18
Shadowpillarpersonally, I dont see linux as ever hitting mainstream, it'll be a niche market, or it'll be in things people use and they won't know or care, it is changing the world, but not in a direct manner like microsoft has, microsoft did do one good thing, and that was spreading the adoption of affordable home PCs which boomed many good technologies. Despite all the shit that came with it. (monopolies, antitrust, etc)09:18
Shadowpillarotherwise, fuck them.09:18
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holycowjldugger, what does a regular user have business administering their own system without understanding or having the skill to do so?09:18
HealotdjuussGUIroot, you disgust me :)09:18
avagant_it says my client has issues with something or other.09:18
unfknblvbldjuussGUIroot: i just richt clicked the ISO image, and slected write to dvd lol09:18
holycowthat is really the issue with windows09:18
Geoffrey2lesse, I just installed mplayer, anyone know where I need to go looking for it, since it's not in the application menu?09:18
tkvariant: ok, have usbview open now09:18
holycowits not that windows is terrible09:18
phrizerdjuussGUIroot, My webcam works on windows, but can't get it running with linux ;/09:18
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unfknblvbli wasn't expecting it to be that easy stupid easy ubuntu09:18
holycowits that microsoft tells people or lets them assume that they can be a user AND a sysadmin09:19
Shadowpillarlinux makes a great alternative when windows isnt enough09:19
varianttk: does it list the hub attached devices?'09:19
holycowwihtout having to know a single thing09:19
holycowi don't see a problem there09:19
eclipse75linux is a project, an alternative. it wasnt meant to be huge anyways09:19
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eclipse75and if the market dies out on linux. linux will never die09:19
varianthey, #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC09:19
holycoweclipse75, i think that is incredibly important to remember09:19
cpk2Geoffrey2: to play something you can just do mplayer /my/file/is/here.(someformat)09:19
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Shadowpillarphrizer: any info?09:19
varianthey, #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC09:19
varianthey, #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC09:19
jlduggerholycow, i realize you're an admin at work, but what should people at home do? hire someone to fix their computer daily?09:19
tkvariant: yah, the comp sees the hub, I just have to run hhid --search to reconnect everything if I unplug it09:19
djuussGUIrootno i swear, its a logitech cheap thingy. Now, logitech made a new webcam, and gave it the same name. So now there are no more drivers anywhere for this old thing, exept on the cd which i lost. But on ubuntu it works right away09:19
holycoweclipse75, it never will indeed, i agree with you totally09:19
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cpk2!offtopic09:19
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:19
Shadowpillarphrizer: make, etc09:19
rylasasinlol no one wants to go to offtopic cause you forget the debate09:19
varianttk: so running hhid --search fixes it?09:20
Shadowpillareh forget this09:20
ShadowpillarI'm tired09:20
unfknblvblcpk2: its actually random chatter ABOUT ubuntu not just random chatter09:20
holycowjldugger, i understand your question, i understand that what you are sayhing is 'why can't everyone just make hardware and software that just works'09:20
djuussGUIrootand im re-installing09:20
holycowjldugger, i totally agree with that09:20
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tkvariant: yes, that and clicking the connect button on all 3 of my devices09:20
variantholycow: #ubuntu-offtopic please09:20
holycowjldugger, the problem is that none of this stuff really works really well, either here or on windows09:20
phrizerShadowpillar, how idea, some cheap asian thing for like $5. Would have to plug it in again to see any information. It stowed away somewhere in a cupboard.09:20
eclipse75bleh just too much gossip from people about the entire linux commercial issue09:20
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phrizers/how/No09:20
cpk2unfknblvbl: isnt ubuntu-offtopic for ubuntu random chatter? =P09:20
varianttk: you could add that command to the udev rules for that device.. let me see if i can find out how09:20
tkvariant: it before I got this hub, the Logitech one would work as soon as I plugged it in...09:20
holycowjldugger, its why mac is a closed platform.  if you want to sysadmin, you need to have some knowledge09:20
jlduggerholycow, maybe thats why over half of my LUG group owns a powerbook =(09:20
tknow even the logitech doesnt do it09:21
docgnomeHrm. Does anyone know of a good cups tutorial for setting up printer sharing?09:21
eclipse75... never try to email a 400mb file09:21
varianttk: annoying!09:21
unfknblvblcpk2: i was talking about stuff too random in ubuntu-offtopic i was told to move to off-topic09:21
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holycowjldugger, maybe, i think thats just eleetism, i've lost my respect for apple a while ago09:21
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unfknblvblcpk2: it was an op who told me to move >.<09:21
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cpk2unfknblvbl: ahahahaaha09:21
myesteriousI got "permission denied" when build and run c++ src on Codeblocks, Can anyone help me ?09:21
cpk2thats awesome09:21
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holycowmaybe its that they are now just another intel case maker09:21
tkvariant: yup :) especially the pushing the connect and then running hhid --search for the devices :)09:21
djuussGUIrootAbort/Retry/Ignore?09:21
varianttk: do you have to do both?'09:21
jlduggerholycow, i donno. one guy even runs osx on his non mac laptop =(09:21
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varianttk: you can't just run the command, you have to press connect also?09:22
tkvariant: hhid wont see the devices if I dont click their buttons (on the device)09:22
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varianttk: hmm, not much udev can do about that :/09:22
djuussGUIrooti'm gonna buy a iMac G509:22
djuussGUIroottheyre so pretty09:22
hoelkjldugger: i know a girl that uses some weird windows pimping software to make her xp look like macosx09:22
hoelk;)09:22
holycowjldugger, i really don't think it gets any easier than ubuntu.  you don't loose the 'properness' of a security model, and these guys brought th euser as close to sys admin as you will ever get them without knowing how to do much09:22
tkvariant: hmmm but it worked before... (w/o doing it?)09:22
variantdjuussGUIroot: i am using an ibook g4, it sucks (looks pretty though :))09:22
halex-abbah, mac people in the ubuntu channel - get out I say..! lol09:23
halex-ab;)09:23
holycowjldugger, expecting apt to get any easier ... i donno.  i have users click and install software at home on a few boxes i helped install.  if it borks they don't really blink, mostly it just installs.09:23
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djuussGUIrootdude i'd get an ibook g4, and only use it to feed music into my stereo, just for looks09:23
varianttk: yeah.. odd. have you upgraded or altered any software between working and not working?09:23
jlduggerholycow, i think automated testing should be capable of catching bugs like "totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin not installable"09:23
djuussGUIrootits awesome, until you actually need to get some work done09:23
holycowwe are missing a few guis for things like monitor selection, dual moni setup, cups advanced config (wihtout going via http ui), that kinda thing sure09:23
tkvariant: only thing I've done was tried installing some other bluetooth software to try and fix it after it stopped working09:23
eclipse75bleh mac is over rated09:24
eclipse75way over rated09:24
djuussGUIrootgood looking tho, thats what counts09:24
eclipse75lol09:24
holycowjldugger, well its getting there.  mark is gracious enough to spend wads of cash up front.  now we haveto start figuring out how to get this stuff to pay for it self with cash going the other way09:24
varianttk: I am sorry but I dont think i can help fix this :(09:24
holycowas soon as that starts to happen you will see a lot more of that sort of thing happening09:24
jlduggerholycow, isnt that up to canonical?09:24
eclipse75yeah just buy the case to one and do a little shin diggin on there thur piece09:24
varianttk: try slapping it against the wall, that sometimes works '09:24
varianttk: :)09:25
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holycowjldugger, why should it only be canonical?09:25
holycowwhy can't you or i help?09:25
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djuussGUIrootill get a g5 and slap some really ugly linux on it09:25
holycowthis isn't a charity, at least thats how i look at it09:25
jlduggerwell, i guess i meant, canonical is working on it09:25
docgnomeI'm looking for a cups tutorial for setting up printer sharing anyone know of a good one?09:25
jlduggerbut you kinda made it sound like "mark gave us some money, now we're on our own"09:25
holycowjldugger, sure, but can you really complain? i think they are doing a great job.  this is one hugass project, i'm more than willing to cut someone slack for spending their own money doing this09:26
docgnomeI've poked around google and can't seem to find anything that works09:26
nysosymcan anyone help me please to find these icon?09:26
nysosymhttp://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotnysosymfilebrowserrp4.png09:26
variantdocgnome: http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-doc.html09:26
holycowjldugger, thats my attitude sure09:26
holycowwhen was the last time youve seen any open source project get money, let alone scads for years?09:26
jlduggerGNU?09:26
djuussGUIrootG5 would look really good with a GUI that uses *excessive* transparancy effects and a background image of whats behind the monitor, with a really trimmed gui09:26
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jlduggeror maybe blender ;)09:27
holycowjldugger, lol, not a great example09:27
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holycowalso NOT  great example, considering they went broke and barely managed to buy out code on a one time basis09:27
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holycowmozilla managed to wrangle up that google deal but thats the exception not the rule09:27
djuussGUIrootok im off09:27
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variantJDStone: I donated 50 euro to a free software project a few weeks ago09:27
holycowvariant, :) sweet09:27
variantholycow: I donated 50 euro to a free software project a few weeks ago09:28
variantwrong nick09:28
holycowi pay regularly for development on various open source application servers09:28
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jlduggerheh, how about any of the people orcale bought recently? ;)09:28
tk_ugh09:28
holycownot us thats for sure :)09:28
varianttk: any luck?09:28
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tkvariant: last I saw was me saying I had only tried swapping hubs09:29
jlduggerreiser apparently makes good money selling non-gpl liscences09:29
jlduggerim not sure how that works in the kernel09:29
holycowhans seems to think he is always in debt09:29
cmathesoni've read that ekiga can talk to windows users running netmeeting or msn messenger... how does one do that?  does msn messenger support SIP?09:29
holycowalthough he has bigger problems these days, being his wife is missing under dubious circumstances :/09:29
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swashbucklinstevFlash on AMD64?09:29
jlduggerswashbucklinstev, hope you like chroot09:30
holycowcmatheson, netmeeting runs over some open source protocol ... h.2342234x something like that09:30
swashbucklinstevjldugger: oh :-(09:30
mjrcmatheson, netmeeting at least supports h323, though you need a codec pack to be compatible with ekiga. dunno about messenger, some claims about sip support, practice unclear09:30
holycowthey just implemented it, thus you can talk to netmeeting people09:30
Healotlinux32+firefox 32-bit and flash09:30
jlduggerswashbucklinstev, they dont provide 64bit binaries09:30
varianthans reiser's wife is missing, presumed dead09:31
eclipse75swiftfox :D09:31
tkvariant: worse case.... I know how to fix it by hand now :) which is a step ahead :)09:31
holycowth4ere is no 64 bit for windows either btw09:31
swashbucklinstevjldugger: libflash is worthless too :-S09:31
sc0tthey folks.09:31
holycowvariant, :/ indeed09:31
varianttk: what did youd o to fix it?09:31
sc0ttwhats the correct method of configuring alsa with bunutu?09:31
swashbucklinstevholycow: when did that happen?09:31
variantsc0tt: it should be pre confiigured09:31
holycowabout a month or so ago09:31
sc0ttits not :>09:31
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swashbucklinsteveesh09:31
tkvariant: possible solution would be to force a connection to the address of the specific device.... (current by hand is connecting the dvices with hhid and clicking their find me buttons)09:31
sc0ttsound is configured, but wrongly09:31
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cmathesonholycow: mjr: so basically nothing on windows works out of the box?  is there an open-source client or something i could recommend my friends so that they stop bugging me about using msn messenger?09:32
sc0ttclear09:32
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sc0ttoopsy :P09:32
crimsunsc0tt: how is it wrongly configured?09:32
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variantcmatheson: amsn is very good, gaim also but not as "easy to use"09:32
sc0ttcrimsun, I have a 5.1 card, which i was going to configure to use all channels to play stereo sound09:32
ariitaiaeure ma09:32
sc0ttby doing this:09:32
sc0tthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26131709:32
holycowcmatheson, depends what you want.  video conferencing?09:33
holycowor just chat?09:33
variantsc0tt: creative sound blaster?09:33
cmathesonvariant: er, sorry, i'm looking for something that would support the webcam09:33
cmathesonholycow: yeah09:33
sc0ttyes09:33
holycowif chat you could just use gaim to talk to anything09:33
crimsunScottK: don't create an asoundrc unless you /must/09:33
sc0ttwell, i must :P09:33
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sc0ttI want my other channels playing music :>09:33
avagant_!mrxvc09:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mrxvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:33
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avagant_!mrxvt09:33
variantsc0tt: creative cards are crappy, contrary to popular belife there is much better open source support for other manufacturers09:33
crimsunScottK: with most current cards, you can access the 5.1 functionality by using plug:surround5109:33
ubotumrxvt: lightweight multi-tabbed X terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 118 kB, installed size 324 kB09:33
ariitaiawhen the last ubuntu 6.10 edgy will come ?09:34
sc0ttI don't plan on changing the card09:34
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halex-abariitaia, some time this month..09:34
halex-abhopefully09:34
variantsc0tt: thats not really an alsa setup problem, you can do it with other programs.. (i'm just trying to remember the name of one in particular)09:34
sc0ttI was just wondering why ubuntu doesn't have alsaconf :>09:34
ariitaiayes hopefully09:34
variantsc0tt: ME TOO!09:34
crimsunScottK: sorry09:34
MistaEDvariant: from what i've used of amsn, it is far from good ;)09:34
crimsunsc0tt: those statements were intended for you.09:34
variantsc0tt: alsaconf is so fabulous.. i cant get over the fact that its not included09:34
tkvariant: err found it :) forcing the hub to contact an addy will make them handshake :)09:34
sc0ttgaim's the best!09:35
crimsunvariant: / sc0tt: it's not needed for pci devices09:35
sc0ttyeah crimsun, i was like09:35
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sc0ttwtf!09:35
variantMistaED: well, its most simmilar to msn althought he interface is ugly it is very usable09:35
MistaEDgaim is stable but lacks buzz, it has no webcam support and it's 200609:35
sc0ttalso, if i use xmms for example09:35
tkvariant: so... with Udev could I do that?09:35
sc0ttand select the alsa plugin09:35
sc0ttit doesn't work :/09:35
varianttk: awsome. should be able to09:35
MistaEDvariant: apart from that, amsn crashes all the time for me09:35
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crimsunsc0tt: did you change the default device for alsa in xmms's preferences to 'default'?09:35
variantMistaED: i dont realy use it any more but it never crashed for me09:36
sc0ttyes09:36
sc0ttjust out of curiosity09:36
crimsunsc0tt: and you disabled esd in System> Preferences> Sound> [Disable]  software sound mixing ?09:36
sc0ttshould /proc/asounds/cards09:36
sc0tthave my card in it?09:36
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crimsunsc0tt: if the driver is loaded, yes.09:36
varianttk: for your own reference, this is what i am looking at: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html09:36
nacerhi09:36
nacermy ubuntu have do somethink wird09:37
sc0ttoo /proc/asounds/cards doesn't exist :O09:37
tkvariant: yah I was jus tlooking at the man page :) that might be more useful though :D09:37
nacerhe give me root shell09:37
crimsunsc0tt: well, is the proper driver even loaded?09:37
Geoffrey2hmmm, interesting....the same videos that were unviewable in totem-xine look fine in mplayer...obviously I'll just use mplayer, but I wonder why totem-xine won't work for me09:37
sc0tti'm starting to think not09:37
nacerbecause he detect theyre is not so much process running09:37
nacerthe problem is i have a lot of process running09:37
sc0ttbtw, ESD was working alright09:37
crimsunsc0tt: it's /proc/asound/cards, not /proc/asounds/cards09:37
varianttk: it has a sections "running external programs upon certain events" i think its exactly waht your looking for'09:37
holycowGeoffrey2, no w32codecs?09:38
sc0ttroot@starlet:~# cat /proc/asound/cards09:38
sc0tt0 [SAA7134        ] : SAA7134 - SAA713409:38
sc0tt                     saa7130[0]  at 0xe2000000 irq 509:38
sc0tt1 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA010609:38
sc0tt                     AudigyLS [SB0310]  at 0xd400 irq 1109:38
varianttk: have it send you an email if somone plugs in an unknown usb key :P09:38
crimsunsc0tt: no, it's loaded just fine.09:38
sc0ttinteresting09:38
Geoffrey2holycow, supposedly they're installed09:38
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crimsunsc0tt: you have a "24-bit" sb live, which is, unfortunately, a piece of crap09:38
tkvariant: hehe, thanks, I'm looking at that now :)09:38
holycowsome codecs just aren't supported :/09:38
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holycowdepends\09:38
docgnomevariant: My config is exactly as they say should work. Or it looks like it is anyway, and it doesn't work.09:38
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variantdocgnome: what was your problem again?09:39
variantdocgnome: the printers? sorry but I am no expert..09:39
holycowthere are thousands of file formats * 10's of thousands of compression schemes * 100's of thousands of settings09:39
docgnomevariant: setting up printer shairng with cups09:39
holycowa lot can go wrong :)09:39
variantdocgnome: only had a printer once and it worked out of the box :)09:39
willys_fueguinoa question:  on ubuntu exists a keymap called en_km???09:39
crimsunsc0tt: for instance, that 24-bit sb live does not support pcm multiopen natively in hardware, so you can't play multiple sounds at once. You have to rely on dmix (which is enabled by default for the ca0106 driver).09:39
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docgnomevariant: Oh aye. It works alright. I just can't seem to be able to share it.09:39
variantwillys_fueguino: what country is it?09:39
crimsunsc0tt: (i.e., the 24-bit/7.1 sb live is a very crippled version of the normal sb live)09:40
willys_fueguinovariant, actually, is a spanish 105 keys keyboard...09:40
tkvariant: now to figure it all out :) never used udev before09:40
variantdocgnome: hmm, if you followed the tutorial then there is not much i can do. find a cups network printing troubleshooting link09:40
sc0ttinteresting09:40
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varianttk: its cool as hell09:40
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variantwillys_fueguino: ah, spanish is ssupported.. is that what your looking for?09:40
variantI'm off to bed for an hour.. later all!09:41
tkvariant: nto familiar with any of that stuff though :P sysfs etal09:41
willys_fueguinovariant, im looking for a keymap wich ends with _km its for the lkl keylogger09:41
holycowcya09:41
holycow:)09:41
tkahh usbview works instead09:41
tkhehe09:41
Geoffrey2holycow, well, I'm having problems with both .wmv and .mov......two rather commonly used formats, as far as I know09:41
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holycowand both proprietary09:42
holycowneither are documented, both are reverse engineered so09:42
sc0ttcrimsun, speaker-test fails always too09:42
holycow.wmv has okay support ... w32codecs seems to just bring over the dll09:42
sc0ttthat a bad sign? :>09:42
crimsunsc0tt: no09:42
holycowand try to use that to playback that format ... same for .mov09:42
crimsunsc0tt: what syntax are you using?09:43
willys_fueguinooh I found it, but's only on english, french and and italian...09:43
holycowthats in totem-xine09:43
tkvariant: am I correct in assuming that the configure path in usbview is the path I need for udev?09:43
Geoffrey2holycow, well, the reality is most of the formats in wide use right now are proprietary...maybe that will change in time, but so far that doesn't seem to be happening09:43
sc0ttspeaker-test -c6 -Dplug:surround5109:43
sc0ttbrb09:43
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osfameronif my Dapper laptop is failing to hibernate, sometimes with a popup saying something like "HAL, failed to hibernate", how do I go about debugging this?09:44
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osfameronah. there are some hdc: and ide: errors during the hibernate attempt09:45
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berentwhats meant by ekiga in ekiga software09:46
osfameronany suggestions?09:46
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sc0ttweee09:47
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tkhmmm need food09:47
crimsunsc0tt: that tells speaker-test to try and use the first card, which isn't what you want. You either need to use plug:surround51:1, or use an index mask for saa7134-alsa.09:47
mattiMorning.09:47
sc0ttah09:47
sc0ttokay!09:47
crimsunsc0tt: I recommend the latter; it's less error-prone.09:47
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crimsunsc0tt: e.g., echo options saa7134-alsa index=-2 |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/saa7134-alsa09:48
sc0tthey that worked :>09:48
sc0ttthing is09:49
sc0tt0 [SAA7134        ] : SAA7134 - SAA713409:49
sc0tt                     saa7130[0]  at 0xe2000000 irq 509:49
sc0tt1 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA010609:49
sc0tt                     AudigyLS [SB0310]  at 0xd400 irq 1109:49
sc0ttwhats the first card?09:49
crimsunthe one with index 0.09:49
sc0ttbecause onboard sound is disabled in the bios09:49
swashbucklinstevjldugger: hm, this is for breezy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106 - how long ago was Breezy? Should I expect much difference?09:49
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sc0ttno no09:49
sc0ttliterally09:49
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sc0ttwhat is that carad09:49
sc0ttcard*09:49
crimsuni.e., your tv capture card.09:49
sc0ttit shouldn't be there09:49
holy_cowdamnit09:49
sc0ttlol09:49
sc0ttoh09:50
sc0ttya09:50
sc0ttit is09:50
holy_cowi wason a good proprietary codec schpeal :)09:50
sc0tt:D09:50
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JakeConnorinstalling an os on a raid 1 is ok right?09:50
berentEkiga softphone on dapper - which language it is taken09:50
holycowJakeConnor, sure.  raid 1 is great09:50
sc0ttcrimsun, is it possible to set the creative card to be default for everything?09:50
fredlhi guys. Anybody know if it's possible to send faxes to an HP Photosmart printer that's connected to the network?09:50
crimsunsee the echo line I gave you above09:51
holycowJakeConnor, you just gotta makesure the raid card is supported, if its not you will be up to your armspits in hackery09:51
sc0ttecho options saa7134-alsa index=-2 |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/saa7134-alsa09:51
sc0ttthat one crimson?09:51
crimsunsc0tt: yes.09:51
JakeConnorholycow: my motherboard has built in raid support09:51
crimsunI'm away for a meeting09:51
swashbucklinstevarmpit hackery, hm, that's risc'y09:51
JakeConnordoes it still matter?09:51
sc0ttokies09:51
holycowJakeConnor, its software support, fake raid09:51
holycowJakeConnor, most of those are not supported under linux actually09:51
swashbucklinstevGet it?!09:51
swashbucklinstevHARHARHAR!09:52
willys_fueguinosomeone uses the lkl keylogger??09:52
JakeConnorooooo09:52
holycowJakeConnor, you are better off setting up software raid 1 natively in linux with just two regular ide/sata drives09:52
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swashbucklinstevOk, you don't get it, I can forgive that.09:52
igorzolnikovHi! How can i set proxy for terminal?09:52
holycowswashbucklinstev, oh09:52
holycowhehehe :)09:52
holycowwow, i am clever :)09:52
swashbucklinstevholycow: is that more overhead than hardware raid?09:52
JakeConnorholycow: what do you mean natively on linux? how does that make sense?09:53
mjrJakeConnor, holycow is right, just use linux swraid, you'll be happier for it09:53
JakeConnoroh, i was thinking of making it a raid and install 3 different operating systems on it09:53
holycowswashbucklinstev, not really, cpu does the work but its not a huge issue for the average cpu these days.  it hasn't been for a long time, unless you are doing something like setting up a productio nserver09:53
holycowin which case you probably wouldn't be considering an onboard mobo raid anyway :)09:53
JakeConnorif i do it linux natively i don't t think i can do that right?09:53
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holycowJakeConnor, well it makes sense like this:09:54
holycowif linux has the driver = particular raid configuration is support09:54
holycowif linux does not have the driver - particular raid is not supported09:54
holycowpretty simple right?09:54
swashbucklinstevholycow: makes sense then, especially since I'm a person who believes in garbage collected languages, i can definitely sympathize with the notion of sw raid09:54
fateisajester!find doom09:54
ubotuFound: freedoom, kdoomsday, lxdoom, lxdoom-sndserv, lxdoom-svga (and 6 others)09:54
JakeConnori think so09:54
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holycowswashbucklinstev, *nod*09:55
swashbucklinstevHow old is breezy?09:55
holycowaccording to reports, sw can outperform hardware raid infact09:55
igorzolnikovHi! How can i set proxy for terminal?09:55
swashbucklinstevfigures, doesn't it09:55
holycowbut ... you knokw at the end of the day, i'm happy to blame a piece of hardware for failure rather than debug software issues in production :)09:56
JakeConnordamn i was kinda excited for no reason then09:56
holycowJakeConnor, welcome to the windows world09:56
holycowwhere they sell you crap and tell you its actually good09:56
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holycowthe mobo raid you are seeing is roughly equivalent to the winmodems on mobos09:56
holycowsheer crap09:56
holycowhardware manufacturers are basically trying to give users features by cutting corners instead of designing it right and assigning a premium to the hardware09:57
fredl*ugh* isn't the version of hplip in Dapper kinda... "old" ?09:57
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willys_fueguinosomeone can recomend me a keylogger to spy amsn conversations on localhost??09:58
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swashbucklinstevtheir logic is that price point affects profit09:58
holycowyep, and appearently windows users really really don't care how the stuff works09:59
holycowso yeah09:59
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holycowcan't say i blame them ... only so many hours in a day :)09:59
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swashbucklinstevspeaking of not caring how the stuff works, THIS LAPTOP WORKS! And I don't care to know how the Ubuntu magi did it, but I am grateful. Gentoo AMD64 doesn't make for a good halfweek project. Installing Ubuntu AMD64 in under an hour does make for a really good day project though :-D10:00
holycowswashbucklinstev, cool :)10:01
totall_6_7holycow: 98% of computer users do not want to know how the thing works, they want it to be like a vcr or dvd player, put in the tape/disk and watch the movie10:01
swashbucklinstevAnd I feel good about handing this laptop off to its real owner now, my sister.10:01
holycowso your running all 64 bit apps? how is it?10:01
holycowi should try it and see where that whole thing is these days10:01
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holycowtotall_6_7, yeah i found that out a couple of weeks ago10:02
holycowi had 100% conversion rates until i ran into this dude10:02
holycowhe wants the computer to be a toaster10:02
totall_6_7yup10:02
holycowyet he wants it to do more than 1 thing, he wants it to do very complicated things SIMPLY10:02
holycowlol10:02
holycowso i'm getting him a mac10:02
holycow>_>10:02
totall_6_7LOL10:02
swashbucklinstevholycow: pretty impressive, atleast I think I'm running all 64bit apps. I definitely feel a marked improvement over the Windows install (non 64) that was on it originally. HP doesn't sell their computers with 64bit OSs despite having processors for it. Ugh.10:02
xorlanyone here use qingy with ubuntu?10:03
holycowswashbucklinstev, i've given up on manufacturers *nod* i understand why they do what they do, but i'm gratefull to have the skill and knkowledge to have an option10:03
swashbucklinstevholycow: the only thing that has me bent is the Flash player and I'm about to take that on, I found a guide from breezy days that should have it running in 32bit atleast10:03
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holycowusers unfotunately don't have a very good mental map of what they want or need  or how to categorize stuff.  they cannot imagine that what they want is actually complicated and requires skill ... i don't know how to get over that one10:04
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swashbucklinstevit requirs running 32bit firefox, not too happy about that, oh well though10:04
igorzolnikovHi! How can i set proxy for terminal.10:04
holycowwell as you know there is no 64 bit flash player for anything ... appearently you can chroot the 32 bit one tho but i'm betting thats dodgy10:04
jhawkhas anyone heard of a solution to broken fglrx drivers in edgy10:04
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holycowjhawk, actually yes10:05
swashbucklinstevholycow: this is non-chroot, would you like the URL?10:05
StAfZe6Hi10:05
str47sup10:05
holycowits the same solution for all development debian like releases10:05
willys_fueguinosomeone can recomend me a keylogger to spy amsn conversations on localhost??10:05
jhawkyes10:05
holycowwait and dist upgrade regularly10:05
holycowi'm not kidding actually10:05
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holycowswashbucklinstev, not really, i'll dig it up when i get to it :)10:05
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holycowbut thanks!10:05
swashbucklinstevk ;-)10:05
sc0ttrawr10:05
sc0ttcreative card is default now :>10:05
holycowwillys_fueguino, i don't know bro, just so that someone answers :)10:06
sc0ttnow to get stereo to repeat over the other four speakers :P10:06
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sc0ttbtw, doesn't ubuntu use .xinitrc?10:06
davinHi, is there like a command for apt-get to search for packages (like Synaptic can) from the command line? I was thinking about this and I cant find anything in 'man apt-get'..10:06
swashbucklinstevwillys_fueguino: I'd recommend a packet sniffer, google it10:06
holycowapt-cache search packagename10:06
holycowthere you go10:06
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willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, I have ethereal...10:07
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holycowwith  a packet sniffer you can grab their entire network session10:07
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, But i dont know hot to make it work to see amsn conversations only10:07
holycowi think there is a hack to use vnc to capture their x session too ... donno10:07
willys_fueguinoand to see the messages in another way than hex ;-)10:08
swashbucklinstevwillys_fueguino: did you search already for etherreal and msn related pages?10:08
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willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, I readed some pages about filters and that if thats what you mean...10:08
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swashbucklinstevwillys_fueguino: another way to do it would be convince the user to use gaim and then set beagle up to take in all conversations10:09
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willys_fueguinobut a friend recommend me to use a keylogger for what I want to use, since they're more "organized"10:09
swashbucklinstevwillys_fueguino: yeah, there aren't any filters for MSN yet?10:09
swashbucklinstevsketchy friend ;-)10:09
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willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, hell yeah!! but I want to see only what keys the user is pressing...10:10
holycow apt-cache search keyboard logger10:10
holycow3.10:10
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, xDDD10:10
holycowlol10:10
holycowthere you go10:10
martIve tried searching on google, but cant find a way to set apps as the default10:10
holycow*cough*10:10
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martat the moment movies open in mplayer 32bit... but i a very bad picture10:11
holycowbrilliant right in the repo10:11
holycowwasn't so hard, now was it?10:11
holycow:)10:11
willys_fueguinoholycow, xDDD I'll try... I tried with "keylogger" but only 1 result..10:11
martwould like it set to open mplayer 64bit10:11
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swashbucklinstevholycow: hah! what are the chances10:11
holycowswashbucklinstev, with debian, pertty damned good actually10:11
holycowi've stopped asking questions or googling before searching repos actually10:12
swashbucklinstevheh10:12
willys_fueguinoholycow, lkl - userspace keylogger for x86 architecture10:12
holycowwillys_fueguino, that lkl app probably logs everythikng to a text file, it should work great10:12
willys_fueguinothats the only one and I already have it10:12
holycowso whats the problem?10:12
willys_fueguinoholycow, I'll let you see just 1 line of the log...10:13
holycowk :)10:13
swashbucklinstevI wonder if it's keycodes :-P10:13
willys_fueguino<Alt>\#<Alt>~KP8<Ret>\n<Shift>KP2<Shift>10:13
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, I think so10:13
willys_fueguinoxDD10:13
holycowha!10:13
holycowthere must be a switch to just show ascii only10:14
Overandneat10:14
willys_fueguinonow... what the hell does that mean!!10:14
willys_fueguinoxDDD10:14
swashbucklinstevyeah, you could translate it very quickly using a perl one liner I'm going to bet10:14
Overand"10:14
OverandLKL is a userspace keylogger that runs under Linux on the x86 architechture. LKL sniffs and logs everything that passes through the hardware keyboard port (0x60). It translates keycodes to ASCII with a keymap file."10:14
holycowthere you go10:14
holycowwell10:14
willys_fueguinoholycow, then how to do that??10:14
willys_fueguinowich keymap??10:15
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willys_fueguinohow??10:15
willys_fueguinoxDD10:15
swashbucklinstevwillys_fueguino: those are keypresses, and they show exactly what keys are being pressed :-D, this is the low level representation all the software uses to understand your keyboard10:15
holycowman lkl ... donno i don't use it ... i'm thinking there must be a switch jus tto capture ascii equivalent keys10:15
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swashbucklinstevfailing man lkl, try info lkl10:15
willys_fueguinoI couldn't find docs on the webpage..10:15
willys_fueguinoneither with man or /usr/shar/doc/lkl/README (this one is helpless)10:16
willys_fueguinook swashbucklinstev... with lkl --help doesn't help neither...10:16
swashbucklinstevhm10:17
holycowmaybe modifying the keymap?10:17
holycowlol :)10:17
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, info is more helpful than man10:17
willys_fueguino:-10:17
holycowto just intercept certain key values? hehe10:17
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willys_fueguinoxDD10:17
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willys_fueguinoits 05:17 Am over here...10:18
willys_fueguinoIm not spending more than one more hour trying to do this holycow...10:18
willys_fueguinoxDD10:18
willys_fueguinoim with this since like 3 hours ago...10:18
swashbucklinstevhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12078210:18
willys_fueguino(I bet that is easy)10:18
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swashbucklinstevyou can guess how to find the right keymap for your case10:19
windshearHello10:19
windshearIf you use the install script in kubuntu 6.10 life cd and you have entered all the requested data you get to the -Ready to install- screen. This shows you the summary of the necessary info you provided to install kubuntu. (Language, Keyboard layout... till grub).10:19
windshearThen there is a note: If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks. [...] 10:19
windshearBut unfortunately there are no changes listed below eventhough I told the script to format 2 partitions.10:19
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windshearIn 6.06 the changes were listed correctly.10:19
windsheari know this is about kubuntu10:19
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windshearperhaps anybody knows why it is like this10:20
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holycowwindshear, try #kubuntu, they are more familiar with that10:20
holycowi mean try that first10:21
windshearhm, they told me to ask here....10:21
tkhmm weird10:21
tkvariant: if I let my laptop sit.... the dvices disconnect :(10:21
holycowwindshear, lol!10:21
windsheardon't know if its the same in ubuntu, i have not yet tried it10:21
holycowwindshear, ill shush then, i donno :) sorry!10:21
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cpk2windshear: I said #ubuntu+1 would know better since its an edgy question lol10:22
ADE#GIM10:22
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cpk2#ubuntu+1 != #ubuntu10:22
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holycowha!10:22
wrabbit^hi everybody.  Pardon the typos if any but my refresh rate is all screwy and I have tiny little letters.  Is there a SIMPLE way to change the refresh rate?  I'd like to run it at 1024x768 at 60 - 75 but the only refresh rate option for 1024x768 I have in display settings is 85 and it's horrible10:22
flaccidhow to change the widget set font for firefox?10:22
holycowthar we go!10:22
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev I LOVE YOU!!!!!!10:23
willys_fueguinoyeah!!!10:23
holycowwrabbit^, there are a few steps:10:23
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wrabbit^holycow, I'll take em10:23
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, KP8<Del>/lo<Tab><Tab><Ret>10:23
willys_fueguinoThu Oct  5 05:20:45 200610:23
willys_fueguinoblablablabalblabaladblsabklakhfs<Ret>10:23
willys_fueguinoThu Oct  5 05:21:08 200610:23
willys_fueguinohopeyou'regettingtheseyoufuckingkeylogger!!!<Ret>10:23
holycow1. google yoour monitor model and make and find out the vertical and horizontal refresh rates10:23
willys_fueguinoThu Oct  5 05:21:23 200610:23
holycow2. backup your xorg.conf file10:23
swashbucklinstevlove you too :-)10:23
willys_fueguino;-)10:23
willys_fueguinoxDDD10:23
holycow3. insert the correct vert and horiz refresh rates into your xorg.conf file10:24
holycow4. restart the desktop with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart10:24
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oskudewrabbit^: well, my eyes hurt when i use lower than 70hz, can you use the monitors osd to resize the picture ?10:24
swashbucklinstevSacrificial doves are sold in the temple forier.10:24
cpk2holycow: cant you just use modelines?10:24
holycow5. log in and change resolution to whatever you want.  once you change the refresh rates you will be given the option to select all the possible resolutions for your monitor10:24
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, thanx u very much man... you just saved me a few hours of my life...10:24
willys_fueguinoxDD10:25
swashbucklinstevglad to give it back10:25
wrabbit^I'll give that a go holycow , thanks.  Sorry oskude.  I can barely read that message hehe10:25
swashbucklinstevi saved a couple of days or weeks of my life by trying ubuntu today10:25
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holycowcpk2, i guess but the essence of the problem is that monitors actually arent detected properly a lot of the time and we don't have a gui to let people select their monis models and makes like in suse to rectify the problem properly10:25
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marthi, i am no longer able to enable more than one workspace10:26
willys_fueguinonow that I'll be able to spy my girlfriend chatting with his "friend", I'm happy...10:26
cpk2holycow: if you know alot about fixing monitor res and refresh maybe you could help me ^^10:26
wrabbit^only happened after I installed a bunch of drivers with automatix10:26
martanyone heard of that before?10:26
willys_fueguinofinally I can go to sleep...10:26
swashbucklinstevlol, anything for love10:26
xorlhow do i see which file belongs to what debian package10:26
cpk2I gave up trying to get something higher than 1024x768 at any freq below 85hz10:26
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, anything to be sure that shes not cheating on me ;-)10:26
wrabbit^I actually prefer 60hz10:26
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willys_fueguinothanx.. bytes!!!10:26
holycowcpk2, well do you have the correct vertical and horizontal refresh rates in your xorg.conf file for your monitor?10:27
swashbucklinstevhopefully you get the answer you want10:27
cpk2i want 75hz!10:27
wrabbit^ok, giving that a try now10:27
holycowthats really all it is10:27
willys_fueguinoswashbucklinstev, I now I will10:27
oskudexorl: i use "apt-file search blah" quite a lot to find in which package a file belongs...10:27
willys_fueguinothanx to you too holycow ;-)10:27
holycowno biggie10:27
hsihhhi. i`m looking for someone who will help me build site about action "to make closed source version of Ubuntu- mp3, flash etc.)10:27
cpk2holycow: i tried using modelines but i dont think my xorg.conf was accepting any modeline arguments10:27
flaccidhow to change the font for firefox used for the menus and trimmings?10:27
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holycowcpk2, why?10:27
Overandhsihh: i suggest you read up on the GPL and the implications10:28
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Overandheh10:28
holycowwhy arent' you inserting the CORRECT refresh rates?10:28
swashbucklinstevflaccid: user.chrome?10:28
willys_fueguinoIf you want to come to the arentinian patagonia I'll gladly will be your guide10:28
willys_fueguino*argentinian10:28
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cpk2holycow: i dunno, it has "modes"10:28
swashbucklinstevheh10:28
cpk2but doesnt seem to like the modeline argument10:28
holycowcpk2, yeah leave that section alone, its fine if you added stuff10:28
holycowyou MUST HAVE CORRECT REFRESH RATES FOR YOUR MONI10:28
cpk2got them straight from the manual10:29
flaccidswashbucklinstev: what is that?10:29
holycowmode lines are not the only thing used to give the user the correct resolution and refresh rates10:29
holycowcpk2, and it doesn't work?10:29
hsihhOverand - C-Ubuntu can on other license10:29
holycow*roh* *roh*10:29
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holycowreinstall and try again, you borked something :)10:29
holycowlol10:29
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willys_fueguinobytes!!!10:29
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swashbucklinstevgosh, in one day I got all the hardware working on this laptop including suspend and hibernate and ndiswrapper running the builtin wifi... I couldn't be more please with my self :)10:30
holycowunless someonehere knows how to reconstruct an xorg.conf from scratch ... i can't remember how thats done ... dpkg-reconfigure wont reconstruct a missing xorg.conf file10:30
swashbucklinstevpleased with ubuntu10:30
Bobrobynubuntu is nice.10:30
cpk2holycow: I can ONLY get 85hz all the time and at a higher res than 1024x768 that freq seems to hurt my eyes10:30
swashbucklinstevYarg, tis10:30
BobrobynMy wireless works sometimes, but doesn't work other times.  It's wierd.10:30
BobrobynBut I'm a n00b...so what yeah :P10:31
holycowcpk2, x takes various info from your config file including modelines and refresh rates to automatically calculate the possible display options10:31
swashbucklinstevBobrobyn: doesn't work as in?10:31
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BobrobynIt doesn't scan.10:31
swashbucklinstevah10:31
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swashbucklinstevthat is weird10:31
holycowyou can't really change that without hacking in some other options in config files that COULD BURN YOUR MONITOR up, seriously :)10:31
cpk2holycow: i just want 75hz =(10:31
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xorloskude: i dont have the apt-file10:32
andyjeffriesHow can I make a binary executable link with .a libraries instead of dynamically using .so's (I'm having a problem with ushare not finding libupnp even though it's intalled and I can find the .so in /usr/local/lib)10:32
xorlprogram10:32
holycowi've not really seen a monitor that couldn't display large resolutions at 60hz or 75hz?10:32
swashbucklinstevBobrobyn: maybe it doesn't have power? I noticed i had to press the wifi button to actually get it to work, I didn't expect this really10:32
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Bobrobynswashbucklinstev,  - The wifi button?  You mean the physical one on your latpop?10:32
swashbucklinstevBobrobyn: indeed10:32
swashbucklinstevthe very one10:32
Bobrobyn*laptop10:32
oskudexorl: then install it... sudo apt-get install apt-file (then you need to update its database before first use with "sudo apt-file update")10:32
holycowcpk2, the one thing you need to do is try another clean install somewhere with the same monitor to find out if its an issue with the calculations of the 'correct' refresh rates10:32
BobrobynYeah, you see:  it is on.  The LED light is on *nod*10:33
holycowi once got my refresh rates wrong and couldn't figure out for a long time why my res sucked :)10:33
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cpk2holycow: i was using the modeline generator at that xfree86 site10:33
BobrobynYou wouldn't happen to know the command for scanning with the terminal, would you?10:33
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holycowcpk2, wow! hehe :)10:33
swashbucklinstevBobrobyn: then perhaps it's a case of the 802.3 interface being on? (the lan)10:33
Bobrobyn*has been using wifi-radar...but yeah.10:33
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cpk2holycow: but to no avail, that or maybe xorg didnt like where i put the modeline10:34
wrabbit^ok, I'm lost.  I can't find anything on horizontal and vertical refresh lines let alone info on my monitor10:34
BobrobynBefore it would actually pick stuff up while being on the LAN.10:34
holycowcpk2, i think i am of no help to you here, i don't want to waste any more of your time ... appologies10:34
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swashbucklinstevI had to take down the ethernet on this one before I could get the Internet on wifi10:34
xorloskude: i can't even find that in the cache10:34
cpk2holycow: do you know exactly where the modeline argument is supposed to go?10:34
czer323What's a good utility to use to search the entire computer?10:34
oskudexorl: seems to be in universe repo10:34
swashbucklinstevBobrobyn: next time that happens, try ifconfig (device name of your lan interface) down10:35
hoelkanyone here using superkaramba with dbkalendar?10:35
holycowi can't remember actually ... i try not to get too fancy.  so far you are the first person to tell me you have the right refresh rates but your moni wont give you the right resolution optios10:35
cpk2=(10:35
wrabbit^any other ways holycow?10:35
holycowthat is all i've ever had to do on dozens of machines and the same answer that always works in here10:35
cpk2wrabbit^: you know you monitor model number and stuff?10:35
swashbucklinstevcpk2: try it at 60hz, what does xrandr say about available modes?10:36
holycow        HorizSync       28-4910:36
holycow        VertRefresh     43-7210:36
wrabbit^cpk2, yeah but I can't find anything on it10:36
Bobrobynswashbucklinstev, Okay, will do.  I guess.  Tomorrow when I take my laptop to class I'll try once more.10:36
holycowsection monitor10:36
cpk2wrabbit^: you cant google a manual for it?10:36
BobrobynThankies, too.10:36
swashbucklinstevyurp10:36
cpk2swashbucklinstev: eh?10:36
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swashbucklinstevwrabbit^ is the one with monitor difficulties, I see10:37
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wrabbit^cpk2, checking again10:37
cpk2swashbucklinstev: technically i do to, just gave up on it though =P10:37
cpk2too*10:37
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swashbucklinstevMy monitor is only able to run at 1400x1050 at 60hz10:38
andyjeffriesHow can I ensure a .so is in the right place and recognised by an application (so I don't get "error while loading shared libraries")10:38
Healotld10:38
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oskudeandyjeffries: by only installing software from "official" ubuntu repos.10:38
andyjeffriesoskude: Great, where is ushare?10:38
oskudeandyjeffries: whats that ?10:39
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andyjeffriesoskude: A sharing system so I can play music from my Linux machine on my Xbox 360...10:39
holycowthis should be good :)10:39
swashbucklinstevNow if I could just get gtk-wifi to install10:39
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andyjeffriesHealot: Was that at me?10:39
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Healotld > yes10:40
xorloskude: that progarm didnt work10:40
phiqtionhow can i find out an active ip in the terminal?10:40
oskudeandyjeffries: sounds like (such rare tools) you have to compile it yourself... (if the makers dont have ubuntu packages)10:40
holycowsudo ifconfig10:40
oskudexorl: what file are you searching ?10:40
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andyjeffriesHealot: it's an automake program, but it's not recognising the libs...10:40
BobrobynWow, that was odd...wifi-radar connected to a wireless network that wasn't actually there...and when I told it to disconnect, it started picking up wireless networks.  So that's probably it...hmm.  Maybe.10:41
xorlinittab10:41
Healotandyjeffries, oh that automake isntaller huh10:41
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andyjeffriesoskude: It's fairly new (it's only just added support for the Xbox 360).  I've no issue compiling it but it doesn't seem to like finding the .so files.10:41
oskudeandyjeffries: you need configure before make... (usually) (and for compiling you need the -dev packages of the libs)10:41
Geoffrey2when using ies4linux, would there be any real need to install anything other than IE 6?10:41
swashbucklinstevBobrobyn: Your chip was salvaged from GITS, ;-D10:41
swashbucklinstevShe's trying to dial up!10:41
andyjeffriesHealot: :-) I know, I know - I'd just have thought there was some option to pass to enable it to use the .a's when linking (but --enable-static that I've found doesn't do it)10:41
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wrabbit^I seriously can't find any user guides, manuals or faws on the Philips 107S5 CRT10:42
oskudexorl: and which one ? i find many with "apt-file search inittab"10:42
wrabbit^automatix worked find on my laptop10:42
holycowwrabbit^, why not search for refresh rates on that?10:43
holycowthose are very often listed by online sellers10:43
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BobrobynNow, what's really odd, is the wireless works without a driver installed...at least, under "Wireless Network Drivers", anyways.10:43
wrabbit^holycow, I know this monitor can do 1024x768 at 65hz10:43
xorloskude: i get nothing10:44
swashbucklinstevwrabbit^: try it at 60hz, seriously, I have a good hunch10:44
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oskudexorl: did you do "sudo apt-file update" as i told ? (it should download a while)10:44
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wrabbit^ok, but how?  I have no idea how to add it.  I know I can do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf but that's about the extent of my knowledge10:45
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xorloskude: doing that now10:45
swashbucklinstevwrabbit^: I predict your monitor will do 1280x1024 at 60hz :-)10:46
swashbucklinstevwrabbit^: probably just google and look at other peoples xorg.confs10:46
Shadowpillarmine is 60 hz, but it matters not10:46
swashbucklinstevor run xorgconfig10:46
cpk2wrabbit^: you can do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:46
Shadowpillarcould also be the limit of your monitor10:46
Shadowpillarwrabbit^: what's the size of your monitor?10:46
wrabbit^17"10:47
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swashbucklinstevShadowpillar: I know my CRT is unable to pull off anything better than 1280x1024 for any frequency higher than 60hz, otherwise at 60hz it will do 1400x105010:47
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oskudewrabbit^: where did you search ? i found this right away at philips.com http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/1/107p50_00/107p50_00_dfu_eng.pdf#search=%22107S5%2210:48
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holycowhehe10:48
Shadowpillarprobably because your monitor isnt designed to go above that limit10:48
wrabbit^well I just suck then10:48
wrabbit^sorry10:48
Shadowpillar17" usually maxes out at 1280x102410:48
Shadowpillarand stays at a sane refresh rate10:49
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Shadowpillardepends on who makes it really10:49
Four23619for some reason, my 17" CRT can do 1600x120010:49
C-O-L-Thello I have installed xubuntu on an older system and my mouse does not works at all, what to do10:49
oskudewrabbit^: and i only searched cause i allso have a philips (at home) and found the manuals right away...10:49
Shadowpillarit's all up to the maker10:49
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swashbucklinstevFour23619: at like 60hz right?10:49
Four23619lol yeah10:49
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Shadowpillaroptiquest and viewsonic make good monitors10:49
Shadowpillarluckily with my LCD I dont have to worry about refresh rates10:50
wickedpuppyNEC too ... i would like to add10:50
Four23619ive never taken it higher than 1280x102410:50
Shadowpillarvideo[nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  @ Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]  K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]  Miscellaneous Control] 10:50
Shadowpillarhrmm10:50
oskudeC-O-L-T: does the mouse work in the login screen ? or even in another computer ?10:50
swashbucklinstevyeah, seems like there are few CRT guns out there that can do much better without paying for it dearly10:50
Shadowpillarthat didnt do what I wnated it to do10:50
Shadowpillarwanted*10:50
Shadowpillarnight10:50
rofl0rapt-get install apache210:50
rofl0rFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.1_i386.deb  404 Not Found10:50
rofl0rthis file exists, but with a 2 in the end instead of a 1. how to tell APT ?10:50
C-O-L-Toskude: the mouse works on other computers and worked under win 9810:50
hitomuHi! Where can I find phpdoc for generating API documentation? I can't find it using apt-get.10:50
oskudeC-O-L-T: hmm, usb or ps/2 mouse ?10:50
grub_booterhi - does anyone know a simple shell based test to determine the distro? ie: ubuntu dapper or 6.06?10:51
Four23619i usually have my is set at 1024x768, as i can do 100hz10:51
hitomu?10:51
wickedpuppygrub_booter, cat /etc/issue10:51
hitomuHi! Where can I find phpdoc for generating API documentation? I can't find it using apt-get.10:51
grub_booterwickedpuppy: ah - thanks10:51
C-O-L-Toskude: it is not usb, it is ps2 but older one, you know that flat connector like in the old 386 days10:51
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wrabbit^ok, so now the pdf won't open10:52
wrabbit^oh joy10:52
oskudeC-O-L-T: hmm, havent used those for year... but i think they should work...10:52
swashbucklinstevFour23619: sometimes 60hz is annoying to my eyes but lately it doesn't bother me, which does bother me... I wonder if my brain is slowing down that I'm not a teenager any longer... or because I've been drinking alot since turning 21 :D10:52
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C-O-L-Toskude: no it does not works at all, what to do?10:52
C-O-L-Toskude: need a driver or something/10:52
C-O-L-T?10:52
Four23619heh10:52
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Four23619i usually find anything below say.. ~70hz bad on my eyes10:53
oskudeC-O-L-T: sorry, cant help on that, but i assume it should work "out-of-the-box" :/10:53
oskudewrabbit^: works here, try downloading again10:53
C-O-L-Toskude: i see, I don't know either what is the problem10:53
cpk2the wierd thing is that 85Hz at a res of 1024x768 is fine but at a higher res it seems to hurt my eyes...10:53
swashbucklinstevthey say dumb cats can watch TV with humans and that typical healthy cats would just see junk on the CRT at 60hz which is the normal freq for TVs and most CRTs10:53
C-O-L-Toskude: do you know how to start that menu with keyboard10:53
C-O-L-Toskude: some combination or something10:54
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oskudeC-O-L-T: nope sorry. dont even know under gnome10:54
oskudewrabbit^: my md5sum is 5b08d8252c6711f5997adf14d91708cc  107p50_00_dfu_eng.pdf ;)10:54
AyabaraI'm trying to make nis work on my ubuntu. I've changed /etc/resolv.conf to look for the servers I need, but when I log out and back in resolv.conf is changed back to only looking in localdomain. what do I need to configure to make resolv.conf stay the way I want it to?10:54
Four23619i think our tv standard over here is ~50hz10:54
swashbucklinstev(the human eye transmits images to the brain at 60hz)10:54
Four23619but my tv does 100hz10:54
Four23619i think10:55
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orion2012Ayabara: using dhcp?10:55
wrabbit^I can't read a word of that, sorry mate :(10:55
wrabbit^oskude, ^10:55
swashbucklinstevSomeday I'll lavish my desk with a high follutant giganto SONY or something similar10:55
Ayabaraorion2012, running ubuntu under vmware, so I'm not really sure how it all fits together...10:55
oskudewrabbit^: DOWNLOAD THE FILE AGAIN ! BETTER?10:55
wickedpuppylol10:56
mjmartinhola10:56
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wrabbit^oskude, yeah thanks :) but I tried dl again... page just comes up blank10:56
Four23619i want an SED montior, when they are in mass production, and become cheap enough10:56
wrabbit^plus, it's the wrong monitor10:56
orion2012Ayabara: resolv.conf is usually overwritten by dhcp, you can configure dhclient to not overwrite it10:56
swashbucklinstevSED?10:56
oskudewrabbit^: hmm, then you might have other problems...10:56
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oskudewrabbit^: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?session=20061005044552_84.177.75.219&scy=GB&mode=search&ctn=107P50%2F00&ds=107P50%2F00&slg=ENG&searchtext=107S5&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&qslg=on10:56
Khamaelis there an nvidia specific howto for aiglx in dapper?10:57
Ayabaraorion2012, aha. that sounds like good advice :-)10:57
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oskudehas "The following models can be incorporated with the Multimedia Base: 109B5, 109E5,109F5, 107B5, 107E5,107F5, 107S5, 107T5.27."10:57
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Four23619SED == http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-conduction_Electron-emitter_Display10:57
swashbucklinstevah, wow10:57
wrabbit^nope, won't show me10:57
wrabbit^:(10:57
wrabbit^wow, automatix really did a number on my machine :P  that'll teach me to take the easy wway10:58
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oskudewrabbit^: hs 30 - 97 KHz / vs 50-160 Hz (says the pdf)10:58
darkanyelHELP!10:58
Four23619but i have a feeling SED will cost $$$ when it first comes out :(10:58
swashbucklinstevFour23619: OLED is coming along nicely, reminds me of how plasma happened10:58
orion2012Ayabara: alternatively, configure you dhcp server to overwrite resolv.conf with the proper configuration10:58
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darkanyelhelp me please10:59
wrabbit^oskude,: Sorry man, I don't know what to do which those figures.10:59
oskudewrabbit^: write them down...10:59
cpk2darkanyel: unfortunately i dont think anyone can read minds tonite10:59
swashbucklinstevdarkanyel: I doubt anyone here is a licensed therapist10:59
wrabbit^oskude,  30 - 97Khz / vs 50-160Hz? what comes before the 3011:01
fyrestrtrKhamael: for nvidia, you need xgl, not aiglx. See !xgl and #ubuntu-xgl for more information11:01
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orion2012fyrestrtr: there are nvidia beta drivers that work with AIGLX11:01
Khamaelfyrestrtr: the nvidia beta drivers support aiglx11:01
oskudewrabbit^: horizontal11:01
Northseayup11:01
surfaceFour23619:  i tot u call me11:01
Northseadunno how stable they are11:01
fyrestrtrorion2012: yeah, and beta drivers with beta software is SURELY going to be STABLE :)11:01
wrabbit^oskude, ah right, thanks11:02
Northseathey don't have to be _that_ unstable :)11:02
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orion2012fyrestrtr: I tried them, it worked, but not well. So, yeah, I'd have to agree11:02
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Northseahow stable is aiglx vs xgl btw? have only tried xgl11:03
Khamaelif the drivers fail, I can fall back to older drivers, or in emergencies run nv11:04
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orion2012Khamael: search for "nvidia aiglx beryl" in the forums, you're sure to find what you need11:04
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AHEADquanta gente, ciao11:06
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holycowNorthsea, bothare pre - alpha stage11:08
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holycowdon't expect anything in terms of stability.  i ran aiglx on top of compiz of all things, but do expect to hose your system during the install11:09
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holycowuninstalling all that stuff and getting everything back is quite tedious, its easier to reinstall11:09
bearhi11:09
davinhow do I set gDesklets to load the daemon/service/whatever so that the desklets load at system startup?11:10
oskudeholycow: or to have an extra partition for such kinf of experiments...11:10
AHEADciao ciao11:10
bearspricht hier jemand deutsch11:10
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holycowindeedy11:10
oskude!de11:10
holycownite11:10
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:10
orion2012davin: System->Preferences->Sessions11:10
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orion2012davin: add gdesklets to startup programs11:10
boinkbear: wir sprechen Deutsch nicht hier11:11
simmerzHi, I'm having problems with the mysql dron.daily job. It is saying there is no binary log (true) although mysql is configured to write one11:11
boink!tell bear about de11:11
davinorion2812: cheers11:11
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wickedpuppysimmerz, for these kind of program specific questions , lets hope there is a pro here who is awake .. or google11:12
czer323question> Gnome: Easy way to change default program used to open a file?11:13
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wickedpuppylike .. what kind of file ?11:14
oskudeczer323: right click on that file and select "open with other application"11:14
rofl0rhow can i change the password of root in shell ?11:14
oskude!root > rofl0r11:14
wickedpuppyrofl0r, why you need to change root password ???11:15
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rofl0ri got a fresh installed rootserver11:15
rofl0rwith a stupid password11:15
dinamizadorhola11:15
wickedpuppyrootserver ? whats that ?11:16
rofl0rso whats the command11:16
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simmerzwickedpuppy: debian/ubuntu have messed around with the logging to make it go to syslog instead of mysql doing it itself. and the binary log doesn't get dumped11:16
dinamizadoralguien que hable espaol?11:16
rofl0ra dedicated RENT-server11:16
wickedpuppy!es11:16
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:16
oskuderofl0r: "passwd foobar" would change the password of the user that youre using11:16
rofl0rthx oskude11:16
oskuderofl0r: to "foobar"11:16
LookTJHi11:16
wickedpuppyrofl0r, then its not ubuntu ...11:16
cpk2i actually setup my root account after a very wierd incident the other day11:16
wickedpuppysimmerz, then change the cron ?11:16
rofl0rwickedpuppy, it is ubuntu, but there's a root11:16
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wickedpuppyok ...11:17
wickedpuppyi was going to preach about the danger of using root ... but i guess i will pass it11:17
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LookTJlol there's a reason for sudo11:18
printkbesides you can always sudo -i if you must11:18
LookTJsudo temp root power11:18
cpk2the other day sudo broke on me11:18
Kamping_Kaiser<oskude> rofl0r: to "foobar" <=-wah?11:18
cpk2and i wish i had set up root =\11:18
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printkcpk2: eh boot a livecd :)11:19
rofl0rpsaawd root11:19
Kamping_Kaiserno, it changes foobar's password11:19
LookTJgo in recovery mode11:19
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cpk2printk: it broke while the system was running, any sudo command would hang11:19
printkcpk2: yah... that woulda been a pain11:19
printki don't care what people say though, I definitely have root setup.  It's my box, I do what i want ;P11:20
cpk2printk: i had to ctrl alt del in the end =(11:20
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oskudeKamping_Kaiser: rofl0r: yup, sorry it chnages foobar's password (the bassword is asked afterwards)11:22
oskudeKamping_Kaiser: been using mysqadmin too much ;)11:23
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Kamping_Kaiseroskude, lol.11:23
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Kamping_Kaiseranyway, bbl11:23
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swashbucklinstevanyone else have gtkwifi running?11:26
tucozHi, i am using the open source ati driver. But, when i type glxinfo with debug output i get the following output:libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri//r300_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri//r300_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)11:26
nysosymanyone here, with skills in changing icons from gnome?11:27
Arcad3!ati11:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:27
tucozI think this is because of some old fglrx driver, but I have removed all fglrx packages11:27
tucozArcad3, I'll see if i find some info on this subject there11:27
Arcad3ok11:27
LookTJtucoz: you get problems when you restart gdm?11:28
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tucozLookTJ, I run fine. But no direct rendering11:28
tucoz*it runs11:28
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LookTJtry sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg11:29
LookTJand choose the driver11:29
tucozLookTJ, I have done that.11:29
frogzootucoz: you'lll find that lib in /usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so11:29
tucozfrogzoo, yes. I know. But if i create a symlink to that, i get another error11:29
frogzootucoz: reset lib path & recompile11:29
tucozhmm. is that a command?11:29
frogzootucoz: well what's the other error ?11:30
tucozhold on11:30
grub_booteranyone care to test an install script for some software? the software itself is a 3d composting/editing tool called jahshaka (and some related tools) - relies heavily on opengl... the software is installed via the package manager so it's trivial to remove after11:30
frogzooanyone care to test my install script that installs a rootkit then deletes your root partition ?11:31
tucozfrogzoo, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r300_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_get_dispatch11:31
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grub_booterfrogzoo: heh11:31
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tucozfrogzoo, do you know how to reset lib path, and recompile?11:32
chamohello11:32
rambo3!ldconf11:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ldconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:32
frogzootucoz: look in the makefiles for LIBPATH or similiar11:32
rambo3!ldconfig11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ldconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:33
frogzootucoz: however, it looks like it's finding the library ok - but doesn't like the version, you may be missing #IFDEFs or something - read the INSTALL docs, I would say11:33
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tucozfrogzoo, ok. thanks11:34
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tempest2k4can somebody help with xgl on ubuntu ? i get errorwhen i try and launch11:36
kothzbah - at work, I installed 6.06, and using the default install of firefox hit a page with flash - the page prompted me to DL and install the plugin, it was all good.  then at home, with the same version of firefox and ubuntu, it wants me to download the .tar.gz file.  someone needs to beat adobe with a stick.11:37
Arcad3!firefox flash plugin11:37
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB11:37
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hockyhairhello11:39
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hockyhairim trying to find a battery, and a volume control applet i can use with pypanel11:39
hockyhairbattery time rem + master vol control applets for pypanel11:39
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Arcad3can someone tell me something about this?ef4ce60654d75c40415ed44db0460e9411:40
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pianoboy3333Is there a gnome setting to dim the brightness of my monitor?11:40
kothzOutside of the fact that it's a hex string? :)11:41
kothzmd5 string maybe?11:41
cpk2lol11:41
Arcad3java encription?11:41
swashbucklinstevArcad3: that appears to be a sequence of latin letters and arabic numerals...11:41
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cpk2ahahaha11:41
cpk2oh boy the response keep getting better11:41
Arcad3why u laugh ?11:41
swashbucklinstevpsh, you should sit in #emacs sometime cpk2 ;-)11:41
Arcad3:(11:42
swashbucklinstevArcad3: it looks like an md5 sum actually.11:42
eythianHi, I'm having an issue with networking - I moved everything from /var to a new /var on another partition (the old one was just in /), and now when I boot up, I don't get any network devices because /run/network/ifstate doesn't exist.11:42
swashbucklinstevmd5 sums are calculated against files to "fingerprint" them11:42
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eythianIf I create it, it goes away on next boot11:42
phiqtionis there a good torrent client?11:43
swashbucklinsteveythian: does fstab know about this?11:43
eythianand I lose my network again :( anyone know what's special about /var/run that hasn't carried across?11:43
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eythianswashbucklinstev, it knows about the new /var11:43
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eythianbut if there's supposed to be a special mount over /var/run, I'm not getting that.11:43
Arcad3that code translates in a php page name11:43
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kothzHrm... ubotu's info about the flash plugin is interesting, but not helpful :)11:43
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phiqtionis there a good torrent client?11:44
swashbucklinsteveythian: hm, I wonder what the dealio be - that would have been the obvious cause11:44
swashbucklinstevphiqtion: not a single one11:44
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swashbucklinstevphiqtion: there is azureus though11:44
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wickedpuppyphiqtion, i second azureus11:44
czer323phiqtion> i ended up using wine and utorrent ;)11:44
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phiqtionthanks guys11:44
xdxhi11:45
frogzoophiqtion: azureus11:45
xdxdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:11:45
xdx ymessenger depends on xlibs (>> 3.3.6); however:11:45
xdx  Package xlibs is not installed.11:45
xdxdpkg: error processing ymessenger (--install):11:45
xdx dependency problems - leaving unconfigured11:45
xdxErrors were encountered while processing:11:45
xdx ymessenger11:45
swashbucklinstevHear, hear! utorrent ftw.11:45
frogzooxdx: please don't spam11:45
urakaipaHi there, I'm having a very strange trouble: I can't see the desktop anymore. Even if I reinstall the os, gnome loads the panels, I can start programs and so on, but the desktop doesn't show any icons nor the wallpaper11:45
wickedpuppypls do not paste here xdx ...11:45
xdxcan anyone help me ?!11:45
frogzoo!pastebin > xdx11:45
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eythianswashbucklinstev, can you see if you have anything mounted on /var/run perhaps?11:45
swashbucklinstevsure, I'll check now11:45
Arcad3kothz:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox11:45
czer323swashbucklinstev, if only the guy would port it to linux... it's like, i would have seriously thought linux would have an uber-version out, but noooo... people love rtorrents... :-\11:45
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eythiane.g. I have "varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)", I'm wondering if there's a varrun equivalent that I'm missing11:45
swashbucklinstevvarrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)11:45
wickedpuppyxdx, the problem is package xlibs is not installed ... so why not install it ??????11:46
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swashbucklinstevczer323: aren't there any good readline/ncurses based torrent clients? I swear there is atleast one I remember reading about11:46
xdxwickedpuppy, but i cant find it11:46
Arcad3find the .tgz package of ymaessenger11:46
swashbucklinstevit runs headless, you can disconnect a client from the server11:46
Arcad3is easyer11:47
czer323swashbucklinstev, rtorrent has ncurses support.  but ti's like.. console...  i actually LIKE my mouse... and my right click.11:47
wickedpuppyxdx,  how did you search it ?11:47
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eythianswashbucklinstev, tnx. Now to work out why I'm not getting that...11:47
swashbucklinstevwell, let me elaborate, there's  a "server" that is a client (in terms of bittorrent) and "clients" connect to it11:47
davinHi guys, how do I see if my Logitec QuickCam Express (webcam) module is loaded?11:47
cpk2azureus runs headless11:47
swashbucklinstevczer323: ah, rtorrent is the one, I think11:48
xdxwickedpuppy, with aptitude11:48
swashbucklinstevczer323: yeah I'm mouse averse :-)11:48
rambo3davin check dmesg11:48
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wickedpuppyxdx, xlibs-dev - X Window System client library development files transitional package11:48
rambo3and lsmod11:48
czer323utorrent and azureus both have great looking web interfaces.11:48
czer323utorrent's is especially amazing.11:48
swashbucklinstevazureus is pretty decent, must admit11:48
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wickedpuppyazureus is damn good ... but its java .. thats the only minus point11:48
xdxwickedpuppy, i install that, and it not work11:49
swashbucklinstevthe plugins help sell azureus too11:49
czer323azureus> if it didn't take up so many damn resources.  i mean, it IS amazing.11:49
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urakaipahello again.. any idea about this? I can see gnome panels, start application and so on, but the desktop is black without icons and wallpaper and still not accessible (right click, and so on)11:49
davinrambo3: http://pastecode.com/5967 ?11:49
wickedpuppyxdx, then i suppose you can yahoo ??11:49
czer323wtf was that? message to azureus... stop using so much memory.11:49
wickedpuppyblame sun ...11:49
czer323but sun makes sparc servers... can't blame a company liek that. ;)11:50
wickedpuppyjava ...11:50
czer323crossplatform!11:50
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wickedpuppyapplets ... swt .... all memory suckers11:50
rambo3davin if lsmod show quickcam then its loaded11:51
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czer323lsusb woudl show if it's plugged in. ;)  I just learned a new trick.11:51
rambo3hmm no11:52
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Arcad3where can i get a list of channels on freenode?11:53
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czer323arcad3> depending on your irc client, /list should at least show yoau huge list.11:54
wickedpuppyArcad3, /list11:54
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Jimmeylupine_85, could I ask for a little more help from you?11:54
czer323arcad3> but i'd look for an option in the irc client first.11:54
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berentdoes torrent really increase the download speed11:54
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wickedpuppyberent, no ... seeders does11:55
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czer323berent> it's supposed to be the availability of other people to download from.11:55
czer323That's what speeds it up.11:55
pianoboy3333Is there a gnome setting to dim the brightness of my monitor?11:55
berentwickedpuppy: what are seeders11:55
czer323seeder=uploader11:55
wickedpuppyfor example , bleach is damn speedy .. but i can't say the same thing for most movies ...11:55
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berentczer323 : will it hack on other's speeds if yes by what %11:56
berentmax11:56
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wickedpuppywill what hack on other speed ?11:56
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berenttorrent as per czer11:56
czer323what is "hack on"11:57
wickedpuppyas per czer ?11:57
swashbucklinstevdamn, gtkwifi will not bleeding install for me :-(, it complains about it being corrupt or the permissions being wrong. I know it's not the permissions, can someone see if they can install it? basically it's like wifi-radar but it seems to be possibly better. I just tried v 1.0911:57
czer323reduce speed?  reduce download or upload speed?11:57
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wickedpuppyberent, pls ask in english ... LOL11:57
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berentok czer323 told that it depends on other's availability11:58
oskudeswashbucklinstev: apt-cache search gtkwifi doesnt give any results...11:58
berentto download from11:58
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berentwhat does it mean11:59
czer323berent> yes, it will use their upload bandwidth to send it to you.11:59
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czer323berent> so, the more people that have the file you want, the quicker you will get it because they will all send it to you at the same time.11:59
wickedpuppyberent, you want to ask if your download speed depends on the seeders upload speed ?11:59
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wickedpuppyczer323, actually more people you connect to ...12:00
berentbut in anycase my bandwidth will be deciding it right12:00
newbie263any tips on vpn setup? or where i can find help12:00
gremis there a chan dedicated to ubuntu edgy eft?12:00
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eclipse75hello world12:00
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gremlol hi12:00
eclipse75ubuntu is definetly a resource hog... =(12:00
czer323berent> your maximum incoming bandwidth is deciding factor, yes12:00
berentif i have speed of x and i get from speed of y with y>x still my max recieving will be x12:00
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czer323grem> #ubuntu+112:01
gremty czer32312:01
grem:)12:01
wickedpuppyberent, yes ...12:01
czer323brent> yes12:01
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mooxmoox>test12:01
wickedpuppyif not i be getting naruto at T3 speed12:01
czer323!moo12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
berentso %agewise there won't be substantial increase12:01
berentwith torrent also12:01
berentright12:02
rambo3apt-get moo ?12:02
eclipse75t3 speed?... doubtful12:02
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wickedpuppyberent, mroe people seed .. fater the download ..simple ?12:02
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czer323rambo> with super cow powers?12:02
wickedpuppyeclipse75, of course i will net get t3 ...12:02
wickedpuppynever*12:02
mooxmoox can you see that ?12:02
eclipse75it would be nice though hehe12:03
rambo3it makes apt look professional12:03
Khamaelwho is lilo from the topic?12:03
wickedpuppyKhamael, ah google for "slashdot lilo"12:03
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eclipse75lilo was the owner of this entire server12:03
wickedpuppyserver or network ?12:03
oskudeKhamael: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Levin12:03
eclipse75network12:03
eclipse75opps12:03
halex-abnetwork..12:03
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humungouswhat to i use to return a packages gconf settings to those of a fresh install?12:04
humungouss/to/do/12:05
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ashzillaokay... so, super weird12:05
ashzillaEvery ubuntu CD I download does not load when I try to boot from CD12:05
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wickedpuppyashzilla, checked their md5sums ?12:05
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czer323ashzilla, so, it's your computer?12:05
wickedpuppybefore and after burning12:05
ashzillabut windows does; however installation fails12:06
ashzillawicked, I haven't12:06
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czer323ashzilla, sounds like you have some other issues going on, other than just burning cds.12:06
ashzillaczer323: I do12:06
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ashzillabut I cannot go to sleep until I resolve this, I must fix it for work12:06
czer323ouch12:07
czer323and this computer booted to an ubuntu live cd?12:07
ashzillano12:07
ashzillaI can't get that far12:07
wickedpuppy...12:07
ashzillaI'm on my roommates PC12:07
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wickedpuppyif you can't boot from livecd .. whats ya hope of installing by tonight ?12:08
ashzillaI know the CD drive works12:08
tengilmy iptables dropped packages are logged in kern.debug and using syslog-ng i get all those iptables logs in a iptables.log file. they dont show up in kern.log or syslog anymore. how do i however get them to not show up when i type dmesg?12:08
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czer323ashzilla> alright, do all the normal things, remove as many extra devices as you can, no extra USB stuff12:08
ashzillaIt reads the windows cd perfectly12:08
ashzillaczer323: it's a laptop12:08
czer323so, keyboard, mouse, computer, video, power...12:08
eclipse75hmm12:08
czer323how far does the live cd get?12:09
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ashzillanothing12:09
ashzillanowhere12:09
PipexGuyanyone had issues with dapper logging itself out .. all by own :(12:09
ashzillanot even the ... when it starts to get read12:09
kemikashzilla: try another CD-r brand, and burn them in another CDRW12:09
ashzillaand I tried two linux ISOs12:09
wickedpuppyashzilla, order pizza for tonight ... and beer ... really12:09
ashzillakemik: I did ;)12:09
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esputo hello, I would like to create a dapper server iso with updated packages, I've been reading arround but I get stuck on the creation of "Packages" files under /dists/ directory, is there any tool for that?12:09
kemikashzilla: ok.. then getting ubuntu to work isnt worth the headache ;)12:09
ashzillakemik: could you recommend something to fix my drive12:10
ashzillaso I can at least get windows installed for work12:10
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kemikashzilla: nope.. i got debian working on my laptop, however ubuntu and vector linux is a "no-go"12:10
ashzillawhen I was in the windows XP CD, I just selected to remove both linux partitions12:10
ashzillathen it said my drive was faulty12:10
eclipse75ashzilla, will your cdrom just not read cds on bootup?12:11
czer323ashzilla, the hard drive or the cd?12:11
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kemikashzilla: is your CD-drive faulty, or the HD ?12:11
ashzillaeclipse75: yes, it reads windows fine12:11
DimensionsHi, i have a question i have plugged 18 dongles to my system with three usb hubs but i can scan only 16 maximum ... why is that and how can i have more than 16 lets say 32 dongles ?12:11
ashzillakemik: It's a mysstery12:11
czer323ashzilla> reads the windows cd fine? or the windows HD installation?12:11
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ashzillaczer323: it reads the set up CD fine12:12
kemikashzilla: my bet is the CD drive is faulty... and it's luck that let you boot the windows cd so far12:12
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ashzillano issues ever before this with the cd drive...12:12
eclipse75does ubuntu use madwifi or ndiswrapper for wifi?12:12
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kemikashzilla: but it sounds like it's either a) cd drive. or b) hd12:13
czer323ashzilla> so, the wincd allows you to click on the linux paritions, then stops?12:13
eclipse75because im using the ath0 chipset =S12:13
czer323eclipse75, madwifi12:13
eclipse75k thanks =)12:13
ashzillaare there any special boot falgs I could use somehow?12:13
ashzillaOMG12:13
ashzillaIT BOOTED12:13
ashzillawtf12:14
eclipse75heh12:14
Dimensionsany one ?12:14
ashzillathis was honestly try #5012:14
czer323It's magic.12:14
kemikashzilla: im guessing (still) that your CD-rom is broken12:14
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czer323ashzilla, is the windows cd a burned cd too?12:14
ashzillaczer323: yessir12:14
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czer323ashzilla, same brand?12:15
ashzillanope12:15
ashzillaI bought new CD-RWs tonight to insure that wasn't the issue12:15
Dimensionsi have heard there is a limitation of 128 devices in linux ... why i can't plug more than 16 dongles then ? does it has to do any thing with kernel do i have to make some changes in kernel ? or what12:15
wickedpuppyi am sure i should report you to BSA or not ...12:15
wickedpuppynot sure ...12:15
ashzillathe cd drive is making some UNUSUAL WIERD noises12:15
czer323Dimensions, 128 is limit for usb.  have you tried in other os with all 18?12:15
czer323ashzilla, it's probably having issues with the cd.12:16
eclipse75that just means your cdrom is happy ashzilla =)12:16
ashzillanegatory12:16
ashzillaI think it must be broken12:16
ashzillaI need to get linux installed to the HD, though, while it's deciding it wants to read the disk this time12:17
kemikashzilla: i've tried to tell you this 3 times already ! :P12:17
czer323ashzilla, I think i've gone through at least 5 laptop cdroms.12:17
eclipse75im still on my first12:17
eclipse75<-- ibm a30 thinkpad12:17
czer323eclipse75, have a few more laptops. ;)  Toshiba is usually the brand of drive i end up with for some reason.12:18
eclipse75heh12:18
eclipse75toshiba, they good quality?12:18
eclipse75ive never tried anything except for ibm and acer12:18
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ashzillahrrrrmm12:19
czer323eclipse75, the computers that toshiba is making now are good, but it's just a standard OEM drive taht they sell.12:19
ashzillainitrd.gz just reported mismatch when checking the cd for errors12:19
ashzillacould that be it?12:19
enquestIs Ichat of mac SIP protocol? how can I connect to a ICHAT user with Ekiga12:19
czer323ashzilla, it failed to load the kernel, most likely because it coudln't load the cd.12:19
PipexGuyanyone had issues with dapper logging itself out .. all by own :(12:20
czer323enquest, ichat is AIM12:20
eclipse75can the laptop boot from usb?12:20
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enquestczer323, how can I make then a cal to AIM?12:21
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swashbucklinstevaha, checked gtkwifi out of cvs, got it running, it works! one question though, how do I add it to the list of applets in the Add to Panel app?12:21
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ashzillaczer323: it said one md5checksum failed12:22
ashzillapress any keey to reboot12:22
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ashzillawhat windows ap should I use for burning?12:22
ashzillamaybe ill try again12:22
czer323ashzilla> just burn slower.12:22
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ashzillai burned at 4x12:22
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oskudeswashbucklinstev: "custom application launcher" ?12:22
eclipse75heh 4x is pretty slow12:23
eclipse75whats the speed of the burner?12:23
czer323ashzilla> if you think it's a cd issue with the disc itself, that's the only thing you can do other than buy MORE cds.12:23
swashbucklinstevoskude: yeah, spose I could, just wish I could add it to the list now12:23
projhey all. Would someone help to clarify how to set the mtu in /etc/interfaces for an interface that is brought up using dhcp?12:23
czer323enquest, honestly never tried it. sorry12:24
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oskudeswashbucklinstev: the "list" contains gnome panel apps, is that one ? (that you compiled)12:24
projI have to set it low due problems with ftp and I can manually using ifconfig12:24
Dimensionsczer323:  sorry was away ... well i have tried ubuntu and RHEL 4 both are having only 16 dongles support ...12:24
projbut I can't figure out what the syntax is for /etc/interfaces12:24
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swashbucklinstevoskude: si, tis12:24
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czer323Dimensions, have you thought about the issue being the USB hubs?12:25
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cpk2ashzilla: have you checked the iso before burning it?12:25
oskudeDimensions: how about power usage ? does usb(1.1/2?) have enough power for all those in one port ?12:25
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rambo3proj man interfaces12:25
beartomB12:25
swashbucklinstevoskude: using Custom App Launcher is fine too though12:25
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projrambo3:  according to that though, I can't set mtu for an interface brought up using dhcp. However I can set it using ifconfig so I assume that it is possible12:26
bearspeak wher german her??12:26
Dimensionsoskude:  i have used them with different hubs some of them doesn't require any additional power12:26
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kemikashzilla: try the CD disc in your friends computer.. that way youll know if it's the DISC or the DRIVE12:26
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oskudeDimensions: i dont know how much power you get from usb port, and howmuch your 16+ dongles use... check that and sum it up...12:27
beargerman hear??12:27
oskude!de12:27
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:27
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enquestIs there somewhere a pakket for openwengo 2.x12:27
michaelkHi, I use an American keyboard but sometimes I have to type some special Danish characters. Is there some way to make, say, F5,F6 and F7 represent these characters?12:28
michaelkAny configuration file?12:28
projmichaelk: I imagine it would be some where in the xorg.conf .. but I"m not very knowledgable of these tings12:28
Dimensionsczer323:  we have many different types of usb hubs as we deal with dongles and usbs ...i have used same usbs with 4 each support and with more than 4 support one aswell ... but none works .... besides that i have used them with Laptops different ones Desktops and Mac mini and Aopen mini machines ... same is the case with all so i guess there must be some kernel setting or some thing to increase support ...12:28
proj*thinhgs12:28
oskudemichaelk: "xmodmap" is the tool, but i forgot the syntax...12:28
Arcad3can someone give some details about this:ef4ce60654d75c40415ed44db0460e94??12:28
proj*things12:28
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oskudeArcad3: seems like a md5sum or just random character... or what ever...12:29
halex-abArcad3, you got yourself some hash there..12:29
michaelkThanks. I'll ask my friend Google about xmodmap :-)12:29
rambo3proj maby pre-up ifconfig mtu12:29
Arcad3and how to decrypt it?12:29
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halex-abNow there's a task for you to find out yourself..12:30
projrambo3: so if I understand you correctly:     iface wlan0 inet dhcp <RET><TAB> pre-up ifconfig mtu12:30
projor something like that12:30
halex-abIf it's SHA, you're out of luck..12:30
oskudeArcad3: decrypt what ? if you dont even know what it is ?12:30
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czer323Dimensions, I'll ask this again... If this is a problem with Linux or the kernel.. A software based issue, then you should be able to boot to say, Windows... and it'll work.12:30
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Arcad3ogh12:30
czer323Dimensions, so, is that something you've tried?12:30
Arcad3some tips please?12:31
rambo3proj,  you are using that than its iwconfig , but i dont know if there is setting for mtu in iwconfig12:31
czer323Dimensions, Because there's not really anything that I think linux has to do with this.  I mean, it may.  I'm not perfect, I dont' always know... but it's my gut.12:31
projrambo3: :) its already a less then ideal internet connection on a wireless usb router.12:31
halex-abArcad3, that's outside of the topic of this channel - if you want some more information on how to crack hashes, Google it..12:32
rambo3and its iface wlan0 inte dhcp  (next row /tab) pre-up12:32
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Arcad3its from ubuntu12:33
Arcad3its on my site12:33
projrambo3: thanks for the help. here goes nothing! later.12:33
Arcad3i think is a hacker12:33
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halex-abArcad3, if you can give me a link, maybe I could help you in the context of what the issue really is..12:34
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ashzillawoot12:36
projrambo3: that worked thanks. I had to put it in post-up instead.12:36
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ashzillaso it appears i made it to installation12:36
ashzillai hope it works12:36
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rambo3good12:36
czer323ashzilla, winxp or ubuntu cd?12:36
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hockyhairwhat is the cmd to show all current remote connections?12:37
ashzillaczer323: this one is actually xubuntu12:37
czer323how much ram?12:37
syockexport GTK_PATH=/usr/lib32/gtk-2.0 should tell any apps to use lib32`s gtk2 right? Why is my app still finding at /usr/lib/gtk ?12:37
ashzilla51212:37
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hockyhairwhat is a cmd that will show all current remote connections?12:39
oskudesyock: maybe cause the program was compiled to use that path...12:40
ShadeTnetstat12:40
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hockyhairkthx12:41
ashzillaAAAAARG!12:41
hockyhairhappen to know of a volume applet i could use with pypanel12:41
ashzillaThis is so frustrating12:41
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OzzFanhow do i change charset on #ubuntu ?12:42
hockyhairany volume applet will work i just dont know the names, i want something i can control the vol with12:42
swashbucklinstevOzzFan: Chain letters?12:42
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jacquesdupontdhey12:43
_steven__Need help. I just did usermod -G newgroup and it through me out of all other groups, cannot sudo anymore. is there a way to recover?12:43
oskudehockyhair: doesnt the homepage of pypanel got any list of applets ?12:43
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jacquesdupontda fucking crazy thing happened to me12:43
hockyhairoskude: no12:43
jacquesdupontdwhen i boot12:43
jacquesdupontdi have no inittab file found , enter run level12:43
hockyhairim gonna figure out how to key bind vol controls, that would work even better12:43
jacquesdupontdand i tried every run levels and it tells me no more processes found for this run level12:43
hockyhairok guys, thanks for the help esp netstat12:43
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hockyhairpz!12:43
jacquesdupontdyou think it's dead ?12:43
jacquesdupontdi was obliged to boot on winxp to come here to have some help12:44
ashzillahow can i check md5sums?12:44
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jacquesdupontdive managed to find a soft that can read ext3 partitions12:44
jacquesdupontdand im backuping my home12:44
ashzillato make sure i got the right file12:44
oskudeashzilla: md5sum file.name12:44
ashzillapskude, im in windows burning in the installation cd12:44
mypapitfxreb00t!!!12:45
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swashbucklinstevhow do I convince Totem to play DVD's?12:45
varianttalisein: ashzilla put the file and the md5 checksum in the same dir and run md5sum /path/to/filename12:45
tucozHi, my LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH is somehow set to the wrong directory. If i run export | grep LIBGL i get declare -x LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH="/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/". Does anyone know how to set this to the right directory?12:45
oskudeashzilla: i think the ubuntu info on the download page got some tools for windows...12:45
variantashzilla put the file and the md5 checksum in the same dir and run md5sum /path/to/filename12:45
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varianttk: hi mate, sorry i went back to bed (on holiday and gf made me get up early :P) did you make progress?12:46
oskudeashzilla: it links to here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto12:46
rambo3why export libs , why dont you add them to /etc/ld.so.conf and do ldconfig12:47
tucozrambo3, for me?12:47
rambo3yeah12:47
tucozi don't know. I haven't made this myself12:47
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tucozit might be the fglrx drivers i've had in the past that set this option12:47
varianttk: i can help you with the bus id's etc12:47
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czer323!dvd12:48
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:48
rambo3tucoz , ubuntu edgy ?12:48
tucozyes12:48
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tucozI've read similar reports from dapper as well12:48
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tucozthat when you run glxinfo, r300_dri.so is set to be in the same path as me12:49
tucozmine12:49
tucozbut it is in the wrong directory12:49
tucozor rather, another directory12:49
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rambo3i havent , but i couldent get fglrx to run on first knot and i have been using radeon since then , untill stable12:49
tucozYes, I run radeon as well12:49
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exmethixhi @ all12:50
exmethixi need help12:50
exmethixiam running edgy12:51
exmethixlike to install a gtk2 theme12:51
oskude!edgy12:51
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule12:51
exmethixbut all my themes that where working with dapper are not looking like before12:51
exmethixah12:51
rambo3radeon driver and gxlgears : 13133 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2626.470 FPS12:52
_steven__help! sudo doesn't work anymore, do i have to reinstall?12:53
eclipse75ahh now have wmv support =) much better12:53
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eclipse75_steven__: you never have to reinstall12:54
tucozrambo3, you have an idea where the LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH is exported, so that i can set it straight?12:54
oskude!work > _steven__12:54
rambo3_steven__, login reconvery mode ad add your self to sudoers12:54
eclipse75just figure out what went wrong and fix it :)12:54
variant_steven__: try running dpkg-reconfigure sudo12:54
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variant_steven__: if you removed your only user from the sudoers file and you dont know hte root password that could be a slight problem but is simple enough to fix12:55
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bun-bunis anyone running ubuntu with an ATI radeon x800 (agp) card?12:55
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siri_hi all12:55
eclipse75hi12:55
siri_i am a newbee12:55
siri_i had recently installed.. ubuntu12:56
siri_i am not getting any sound12:56
eclipse75well if you learn how to use linux, youll find out why its better12:56
infidelheloo newbe12:56
siri_can any one help me12:56
_steven__thank you, i forgot about the recovery mode, i'll try that12:56
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rambo3tuzoc maby man ldconf can help . dont know more12:56
siri_no sound.. here.. after installing ubuntu12:56
rambo3man ldconfig12:57
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tucozrambo3, ok. thanks12:57
infidelsiri_, are you muted?12:57
siri_nope i think12:57
bun-bunif anyone is using a radeon x800 pro card, i'm interested to know what drivers you are using12:57
berentsiri : check if u r mute12:57
Lunar_Lamphow do i set the hostname of my ubuntu box?12:58
siri_berent: no12:58
oskude!hostname > Lunar_Lamp12:58
tkvariant: no, I  didnt... i did find out that if I let the screen save kick in (power save) it disables the devices again...12:58
berentsiri : do u have sound device12:58
tkI think I may have fractured my finger :( (or 2) on each hand :/12:58
siri_:(12:59
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tkbrb12:59
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varianttk: very unfortunate :(01:00
\pub\bash0rhi01:00
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btbyteshow does one install "Shopt" program on ubuntu ?01:01
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\pub\bash0rI have a problem with shorewall ... I just upgraded my server from breezy to dapper. My networkinterface eth2 is bridged with tap0 and tap1 into br0. It worked fine on breezy, but on dapper I get the following error when starting shorewall:01:02
\pub\bash0rActivating Rules...01:02
\pub\bash0riptables v1.3.3: host/network `eth2' not found01:02
\pub\bash0rTry `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.01:02
\pub\bash0r   ERROR: Command "/sbin/iptables -A ppp0_fwd -s 0.0.0.0/0 -o br0 -d eth2 -j net2loc" Failed01:02
\pub\bash0rdoes anyone has an idea what is going wrong?01:02
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rambo3 host/network `eth2' not found01:03
siri_ubotu: sound01:03
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems01:03
swashbucklinstevI get an error message from Totem asking if I'm trying to play a dvd without libdvdcss, I tried searching for libdvdcss in synaptics but to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?01:03
\pub\bash0rrambo3: haha01:03
\pub\bash0rofcourse this interface is available - I use it currently otherwise I would be offline ;)01:03
siri_ubotu: ubotu01:04
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage01:04
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rambo3are you shure its not maped to some other eth like eth101:04
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tkvariant: I'm back01:04
\pub\bash0rifconfig: eth2      Link encap:Ethernet01:04
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mabusCan I use a modified environment variable when calling a command (like say from a shell script run by crontab) without having it change that variable for other use?01:05
mabusie: make something use a proxy but not have everything I do use it01:05
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varianttk: what you do to your finger?01:06
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Ayabaraanyone here who know their way around vmware player?01:06
tkvariant: keeper in football/soccer01:07
variantAyabara: whats to know? it doesnt get much simpler01:07
AyabaraI have downloaded and started up an ubuntu 6.06 vmware image. Problem is that / is only set to 2,6GB, which is way too little. Is there a way I can increase this size?01:07
porkpie_Hi guy's is there a wiki on how to create a ubuntu install cd01:07
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porkpie_I have a custom kernel for the dell 1950 and I want to create an install cd01:08
varianttk: I am just wreastling with an iboo g4 and sound support on ubuntu right now _(microphone wont work) back in 30 mins or so01:08
jacquesdupontd__hey01:08
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jacquesdupontd__nobody know what i can do after a problem that says01:08
jacquesdupontd__no inittab file found01:08
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jacquesdupontd__enter run level , and answer is always no more process founds01:08
variantporkpie_: if you have a system installed allready you can turn it into a live cd/dvd with linux-live.org scripts01:08
Ayabaravariant, need to increase the size of / on a downloaded vmware application01:08
tkvariant: no biggy, I'll probably have to catch you tommorow, gonna go have a few drinks and try and relax01:08
varianttk: ok mate01:09
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varianttk: have a good evening01:09
oskudeporkpie_: i think easier would be to make a deb package from that kernel, and install it after "standard" ubuntu...01:09
porkpie_variant:that the problem ...I don't have a system01:09
whyameyeporkpie_: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo01:10
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porkpie_cool thanks01:10
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rofl0rwhat package do i need for apache2-mysql ? wasnt it mod-mysql ?01:16
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wrabbit^hello01:16
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ashzillahow can i manually check for errors01:17
ashzillalike ubuntu would after 30 boots...01:17
tkvariant:  you too, :) good luck with the ibook01:17
kyjais there a realy good backup utility that I can simply span everything onto RW+-DVD's ?01:17
maliceHow do you spoof your ip. in Ubuntu?01:17
wrabbit^ohhh ibook :)01:18
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wrabbit^yum01:18
wrabbit^Just out of curiosity, which desktop env are people running in here?01:18
kyjamore than likly ubuntu :/01:18
malicewin 3.101:19
malice:)01:19
kyjahehe01:19
wrabbit^hehe, I mean, KDE/Gnome/Xfce01:19
wrabbit^or the other ice one I can't think of atm01:19
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malicegnome01:19
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UK_Blokeashzilla - try 'e2fsck' to check a file system01:19
maliceholy updates01:19
mabusCan I use a modified environment variable when calling a command (like say from a shell script run by crontab) without having it change that variable for other use?01:19
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wrabbit^hehe01:19
mabusI always do a server install and then later put fluxbox on01:20
oskudemabus: if you modify (or add) a environment variable on the terminal, its for that user, and only so long as you stop that terminal session01:20
maliceDoes anyone know how to spoof there ip in Ubuntu?01:20
mabusoskude: so if a bash script called by crontab did that it would only last for the script's length? or if it was called from a perl script?01:21
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oskudemabus: as i said, it last as long the terminal session is on (afaik)01:22
physicsnickwowza, i'm updating to edgy and getting a flood of warnings01:22
mabusoskude: I thought there was a way to set an env variable and call a program with that variable in one command, though01:22
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oskude!edgy > physicsnick01:22
physicsnickperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_CA:en" are supported and installed on your system.01:22
wrabbit^I'm off Xfce.  After hours of messing with with the driver .conf file, I could only get 60hz to work in gnome.  apt-get installing KDE atm.  1 hour at 55kb/s :(01:22
physicsnick...01:22
physicsnickoskude, what was the point of that?01:22
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physicsnickit told me absolutely nothing01:22
oskudemabus: sure01:23
wrabbit^I might look into flufbox01:23
oskudephysicsnick: yours using edgy...01:23
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physicsnickyes, and?01:23
oskudephysicsnick: edgy has its own channel01:23
physicsnickah01:23
mabus!edgy01:23
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule01:23
kyjaooow01:23
kyja!schedule01:24
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule01:24
physicsnicki joined #edgy and found no one, so i figured i should just come here01:24
physicsnickthanks01:24
wrabbit^oskude: I was stuck in the command line and couldn't start X.  Eventually got the res and refresh rate working for gnome but it wouldn't show up for xfce.  So I cracked it :)01:24
bonycan anyone tell me  how the command "resize MINOR START END" should look like in parted prompt? i want to resize and get a new partition whose size must be 10GB.01:24
\pub\bash0rdoes noone has an idea regarding my shorewall problem? :(01:24
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oskudewrabbit^: aha...01:24
kyjais there a realy good backup utility that I can simply span everything onto RW+-DVD's ?01:25
wrabbit^oskude: so I'm gonna give kde a go.  If I can make it as simple as xfce, I'll be happy.  I just want something that won't get in the way with flashy gfx01:25
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physicsnickkde>*01:25
wrabbit^physicsnick: From what I've seen, it's all lights and flashy transitions.  Can you customize all that with ease?01:26
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physicsnickwrabbit^, i was just about to say, the best thing about kde is the configuration01:26
wrabbit^sweet01:26
physicsnickit's ironic that gnome is supposed to be simpler, and yet to accomplish anything in gnome you have to break out the config files01:26
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physicsnickkde has all sorts of configuration utilities01:26
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norberhello01:27
norber i have a laptop and i buy a card audio usb. I want listen a song (example dover) by the two cards audio. Is possible?01:27
physicsnickanyway the whole motivation behind kde is that it's configurable01:27
wrabbit^sounds, good.  Glad I'm downloading the 200 + mb package then01:27
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physicsnickhehe, well if you're installing kubuntu-desktop it might be a little screwy01:27
oskudephysicsnick: very configurable!01:27
physicsnicki tried that and instead just formatted it and installed kubuntu native01:27
wrabbit^I just put in, sudo apt-get install kde01:28
physicsnickoh01:28
physicsnickum01:28
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physicsnicki think you might want to install kubuntu-desktop instead of kde01:28
physicsnicki'm not sure01:28
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wrabbit^that's what I did with xfce; sudo apt-get install xfce.  Thought it might apply01:28
physicsnickah01:28
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lara_la01:29
lara_hola01:29
martijnHey, I just installed the package gnochm (chm viewer) from synaptic, and when I run it I get this error: "You do not have all of the required Python modules to run gnochm. ... could not import gtk"01:29
norberhola lara01:29
physicsnickwell if that worked for xfce, it will probably work for kde. thing is kubuntu comes with a bunch of kde-specific apps that 'install kde' won't install for you01:29
vanhtu1987Hi, will anyone answer this question please: How come I've got no coloring in vim ? If I manually build it from source then it works.01:29
martijnI have python-gtk2 installed though01:29
wrabbit^if this gives me too much hassle, I'm trying freeBSD. lol... if I'm gonna freak out over an OS, it may as well be one that actually is hard to use01:29
physicsnickhahaha01:29
physicsnickyeah, kde is great01:30
martijnWhat can I do?01:30
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oskudemartijn: findout what version of pythong gtk it wants01:30
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wrabbit^I thought vim didn't use block colours etc.01:31
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u0744347x01:32
\pub\bash0rreally noone here with enough knowledge of shorewall to help me?01:32
wrabbit^physicsnick: well that's worrying.  the kde-specific apps aren't exactly needed though are they?01:32
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vanhtu1987wrabbit^: What do you mean by 'block colours' ? vi/vim has coloring support by default if I installed from source, but the shipped version of vim in Ubuntu does not.01:32
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martijnoskude: In the readme it says pygtk2 is needed01:33
wrabbit^vanhtu1987: yes, coloring support.  Didn't think it had it.  Try DrPython.01:33
martijnversion >= 1.9.1201:33
martijnI've got version 2.8.601:34
wrabbit^would sudo apt-cach search pygtk2 work?01:34
Zv_oDDi'm installing xubuntu and i'm not sure how i should partiotion my HDD01:34
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wrabbit^are you running anything else Zv_oDD?01:34
oskudemartijn: hmm... you better surf the makers site for help...01:34
Zv_oDDnah just dingle boot01:34
wrabbit^Zv_oDD: then go default01:35
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Zv_oDDwell i got 2 HDDs one is 10gb and other is 10001:35
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gunfusThis is going to sound silly01:36
martijnoskude: I'm thinking this is a bug in the gnochm packaging01:36
martijnShould I file a bug report on this?01:36
vanhtu1987wrabbit^: :-/ Huh ? That's the main reason I've been using Vim. In Ubuntu forums someone suggested creating a .vimrc and manually specifying the coloring rules. If I build it, it automatically works by default.01:36
physicsnickwrabbit^, as far as i know the apps aren't01:36
vanhtu1987Ok thanks, I'll try looking for a config file in /etc.01:36
physicsnickwrabbit^, you should be fine01:36
gunfusbut I am a newbie in concatanating shell commands01:36
cpk2Zv_oDD: you might be able to put / on the 10g =P01:37
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cpk2and then /home on the 10001:37
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Zv_oDDi want to share root across the two dives01:37
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wrabbit^vanhtu1987: sorry, can't help you then.  I've never used it01:37
gunfusI want to be able to erase all files that are giving out by: find ./ -name *.*~01:37
vanhtu1987Np :) thanks for replying anyway.01:38
gunfusso i would do: find ./ -name *.*~ && rm ..? (this didn't work)01:38
wrabbit^physicsnick: good to hear.  I guess I'll find out in 37 minutes01:38
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gunfusI tried piping01:38
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gunfusthat didn't work either01:38
cpk2Zv_oDD: err why?01:38
darkanyelanyone can help me?01:38
physicsnickwrabbit^, if anything goes wrong you can just log into gnome instead and fix it01:38
gunfusdarkanyel: Just ask the question01:39
physicsnickor not log into x at all, just go straight to a terminal01:39
Zv_oDDis it ok if a put a 1gb swap partion at the start of my 100GB hhd and then make the rest ext3 and then somhow mount both drives as /01:39
wrabbit^physicsnick: very true. :) Fingers crossed that I get the right res and refresh rate in kde01:39
darkanyelgunfus, wwll, i wanna know how make thunar as defaut explorer01:39
oskudemartijn: where did you got it ? i cant find it with apt-cache...01:39
wrabbit^yah, I was in terminal for ages before.  Very intimidating01:39
physicsnickwrabbit^,  isn't that stuff set before you even log in?01:39
physicsnickthe resolution i mean01:40
Zv_oDDshould i just leave the 10gb drive completley unused?01:40
cpk2Zv_oDD: but why would you want / to span 2 hdd?01:40
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gunfusdarkanyel: System > Preferences > Prefered Applications01:40
Zv_oDDwell i am not sure wat todo with these two drives01:40
wrabbit^physicsnick: The reason I'm changing to kde is because after hours of messing with the driver .conf, I could only get the right res and ref in gnome and not xfce so I dunno.  Drivers have some iddues01:40
wrabbit^issues*01:40
martijnoskude: I got it from universe01:40
cpk2normally one puts data on them01:40
physicsnickZv_oDD, you can just mount the second hard drive under /media/data01:41
martijnSimply through synaptic01:41
gunfusAnyone,..? I want to be able to erase all files that are giving out by: find ./ -name *.*~01:41
physicsnickor /media/whatever01:41
oskudemartijn: whats the package name ?01:41
martijngnochm01:41
wrabbit^physicsnick: I'd install on the 10g and mount the second drive01:41
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physicsnick?01:41
wrabbit^wrong nick01:41
physicsnick:)01:41
oskudemartijn: got a link to chm i can test ?01:41
darkanyelgunfus, but i can change there the nautilus01:41
darkanyelgunfus, i wanna change nautilus with thunar01:42
cpk2i am not sure how much space / could end up using though01:42
wrabbit^Zv_oDD: : I'd install on the 10g and mount the second drive01:42
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Zv_oDDSoo just install linux on the 10gb and mount the 100gb for storage in /media/01:42
martijnoskude, it also gives that error simply starting it from the terminal01:42
jendadoes GAIM 2 use unicode by default?01:42
cpk2so 10gB might not be enough later01:42
Zv_oDDok01:42
physicsnickZv_oDD, don't mount it under /media01:42
gunfusdarkanyel: ohhh hmmmm that I am not sure01:42
wrabbit^10g is plenty01:42
physicsnickmount it as /media/<something>01:42
gunfusdarkanyel: sorry dude..01:42
oskudemartijn: hmm, not here... seems to work...01:42
physicsnickbecause other things are also in media, ie cdrom floppy etc01:42
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cpk2Zv_oDD: if you install on the 10gB set the 100gB as .home01:42
gunfusdarkanyel: keep on asking01:42
darkanyelgunfus, no problem01:42
gunfusmaybe someone else knows01:42
physicsnickZv_oDD, the installer will ask you where to mount it and it will do it for you01:43
cpk2i meant /home01:43
darkanyeli wanna change nautilus with thunar, anyoneknow how?01:43
martijnI just checked - the package python-gtk2 only installs files in /usr/share/doc. Apparently it is only the documentation for the bindings01:43
Zv_oDDok01:43
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wrabbit^wow, Antitrust is on. Fancy that01:43
Zv_oDDthanks01:43
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physicsnickZv_oDD, yeah mounting it as /home is probably a better option01:43
oskudemartijn: as i said, gnochm works here... are you using "pure" dapper ?01:43
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Florobdarkanyel: If you wan't to exchange it (completely) in gnome, that is not going to work, it is to tightly integrated (e.g. it displays you desktop etc.)01:44
cpk2Zv_oDD: /home by itself also as the benefit if you decide to change distro or your system fails you keep all your stuff01:44
cpk2has*01:44
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darkanyelFlorob, no i dont want uninstall nautilus, i just wanna open my folders with thunar by default01:45
gunfusdarkanyel: Why don't you add an options.. that is the thing.. is tightly integrated..01:46
oskudedarkanyel: open from where ?01:46
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gunfusdarkanyel: I mean add a menu option01:46
gunfusdarkanyel: even in windows.. explorer is tightly integrated.. can you even change the default explorer?01:47
darkanyeli done that, but every time that i open a folder with 2 clicks it open nautilus01:47
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physicsnickdarkanyel, well where are you looking at these folders?01:48
oskudedarkanyel: from where ? from nautilus ? pretty obvious that it opens nautilus from nautilus, not ?01:48
gunfusdarkanyel: so if you double click a folder on thunar it opens nautilus.. hmm that sounds more of a thunar problem01:48
physicsnickchances are you're looking at them in nautilus01:48
Zv_oDDumm, is there a way i can mount it to /home and to /media/somthing01:48
darkanyelahahaha01:48
gunfusdarkanyel: if you double click on a icon in the desktop.. well that will open nautilus because it is nautilyus01:48
Zv_oDDlatter on in the fstab or somthing...?01:48
physicsnickZv_oDD, you can mount it as /home and create a link to /home in /media/something... but why would you want to?01:48
darkanyeloskude, u are right01:49
gunfusdarkanyel: the desktop is all nautilus based01:49
martijnoskude: on a suggestion from somebody on #gnome, I ran 'python -c "import gtk"'. I get this result: http://pastebin.ca/191803.01:49
wrabbit^Zv_oDD: I guess if you create the folder and just mount it to that path, sure. Don't quote me though01:49
martijnAnd yes, it is a fresh dapper install01:49
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darkanyelys, but isnt a way???01:49
Zv_oDDcould i mount it to /media/somthing then make /home a link?01:49
wrabbit^Yes, what physicsnick said. What the hell do I know01:49
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Florobdarkanyel: at least in edgy i have seen that if you right-click a folder in nautlilus you can say "open with thunar" maybe there is a way to make this a default, but i wouldn't know how01:50
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physicsnickZv_oDD, no, you can't do that01:50
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oskudemartijn: "undefined symbol: cairo_surface_write_to_png_stream" hmm, maybe youre missing some python/cairo png librarys...01:50
gunfusdarkanyel: from what others are saying.. no. and if you think about it.. no. The whole desktop is nautilus based with the gnome-bar-panels01:50
physicsnickif you don't mount it as home to begin with, you'll get a /home on your 10g01:50
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fu-k-thi01:50
physicsnickwhy do you want it in /media at all?01:50
gunfusgunfus: I guess you can sew nautilus for being its prefered app :D01:51
frogzooZv_oDD: if you want your home directory to be something other than /home, you can change it in /etc/passwd01:51
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darkanyeli think that i have to install xubuntu01:51
fu-k-ti have 3 computers running ubuntu, soon to be 401:51
darkanyel:S01:51
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fu-k-tand i am wondering if there's a way i can only download the updates for each computer once01:51
gunfusdarkanyel: Yeah.. if you want to customize your enviroment then maybe that is an option01:51
wrabbit^darkanyel: just apt-get install xfce01:51
fu-k-trather than downloading 4 seperate copies01:51
gunfusshoot time to go to work01:51
Zv_oDDI dont see why i can just turn /home into a link01:51
wrabbit^it doesn't take long01:51
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fu-k-tbecause especially on first install, it takes forever01:52
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wrabbit^sorry, it's sudo apt-get install xfce401:52
wrabbit^not xfce01:52
Alakazam_no01:52
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Alakazam_its sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:52
wrabbit^sudo apt-get install xfce4 worked fine for me01:53
frogzooZv_oDD: I think that will probably work for most things01:53
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Alakazam_yeah, it'll work... but its not going to give you everything xubuntu has to offer.01:53
wrabbit^ah right01:53
Alakazam_;)01:53
physicsnickwait01:53
Hattorihello, any good step by step guide to install linux after have installed last release of ubuntu?01:53
Hattori...01:53
wrabbit^I guess the same applies for KDE01:53
Hattorii mean01:53
wrabbit^goddamit01:53
wrabbit^-d01:53
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Alakazam_Hattori, if you've installed ubuntu then linux is installed01:53
Hattorihello, any good step by step guide to install windows after have installed last release of ubuntu?01:53
Hattori;}01:53
Alakazam_yes wrabbit^ you'd "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"01:54
Hattorito have a dual boot01:54
physicsnickif you apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, it will replace some ubuntu stuff as well, like it will say "xubuntu" when you boot01:54
wrabbit^Alakazam_: too late for that :P01:54
wrabbit^20 minutes to go01:54
Alakazam_hehe01:54
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jticklesomeone broke Mono last night01:54
variantanyone know if a 3d rage pro is better than a geforce 2 mx ?01:54
Alakazam_yeah physicsnick i noticed that too01:54
jtickleI installed updates then went to bed01:54
Alakazam_kinda annoying01:54
Alakazam_you can change that easily though01:54
jticklethis morning, no Mono app will run01:54
jticklethey just freeze when ya try01:54
Lunar_LampHattori - linux is a core of an operating system, and ubuntu is a distribution of that - it adds programs and graphics and makes it useable.  there are lots of other 'distro's' but ubuntu is just one of them, and is "linux"01:54
physicsnickvariant, last i recall it is slightly. they're both terrible cards01:54
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jticklethis is version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3.101:55
siri_ubotu: java01:55
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository01:55
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Alakazam_Hattori, why didnt you install windows 1st01:55
Alakazam_that would have been the smart thing to do01:55
jtickleis there a way I can :downgrade" to 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3?01:55
Hattoriya01:55
Hattoribut not me01:55
Hattorimy brother..01:55
Alakazam_okay01:55
physicsnickHattori, the best way to dual boot is to install first01:55
Hattoriand seems he wants both now01:55
variantHattori: linux is a kernel, GNU is the userspace tools, ubuntu,gentoo,debian,slackware,redhat are the distrobutions01:55
Lunar_Lamphttp://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Installing_windows_AFTER_Linux01:56
physicsnickit might be difficult to install windows now because you may need to install windows and then install grub01:56
Hattorihey, i just typed bad ;}01:56
Alakazam_you'll have to install windows on a seperate partition then modify grub to know windows is bootable.01:56
Hattorii meant windows not linux01:56
Alakazam_Why are you using windows anyway.01:56
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Lunar_LampHattori http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Installing_windows_AFTER_Linux01:56
undac0vai may not be in the right place... but where is the best info available on how to install files, i.e programs like firefox etc.. i am a complete newbie!01:56
Alakazam_Ubuntu is the 1st linux desktop ive used that i can say is actually READY for home use in every way.01:56
physicsnickundac0va, click Applications -> Add Applications, then check off firefox :p01:56
wrabbit^Alakazam_: from what I've heard, openSuse isn't toobad01:56
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wrabbit^and pclinusos01:57
darkanyelwhich is better gnome or xfce??01:57
wrabbit^x01:57
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wrabbit^xfce is great if you're after simplicity01:57
wrabbit^gnome is slightly bloated imo01:57
undac0va<- stupid..  hmm, and i dont seem to be able to change my resolution at all... even tho the driver installed seems to be correct.. any ideas?01:57
\pub\bash0ris now someone here who has an idea regarding my problem? (description here: http://aksdb.homeip.net/shorewallproblem.html)01:58
darkanyelbut all my aplications gona run??, wrabbit^01:58
oskudewrabbit^: xfce is bloated too, use openbox :/01:58
Alakazam_wrabbit^, opensuse sucks in my eyes... suse sucks in my eyes period.01:58
Alakazam_its ugly, and VERY slow.01:58
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darkanyel:?01:58
Alakazam_xfce isnt bloated compared to Gnome or KDE.01:58
Alakazam_clear01:58
Alakazam_ack01:59
Alakazam_fluxbox is the lick.01:59
wrabbit^darkanyel: I haven't installed xubuntu but xfce on ubuntu works fine bar a few driver issues from what I've noticed01:59
physicsnickkde is bloated?01:59
wrabbit^oskude: openbox eh... I'll check it out.01:59
physicsnickwrabbit^, xfce seems to have a few crash bugs01:59
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variantwrabbit^: driver issues? the desktop environment has nothing to do with drivers at all01:59
physicsnickon my system, xfce completely hangs the machine on the 27 kernel01:59
wrabbit^I haven't noticed that.  I do know that it doesn't like gedit01:59
physicsnickvariant, yes it does.01:59
physicsnickon my machine xfce hangs on 27, i have to use 2602:00
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darkanyelim cofussed :....02:00
physicsnickno terminal window or anything. it hangs the machine completely02:00
wrabbit^ugh02:00
variantphysicsnick: that has nothing to do with drivers.. unless your talking about graphics driver but really that is debatable'02:00
physicsnickvariant, i suppose02:00
variantphysicsnick: you tried the 4.4 dev release? its very good02:00
physicsnickvariant, nah i tried latest dapper02:00
physicsnicki don't really use xfce, i just tried it for a while02:01
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darkanyelwith is the best gnome or xfce???02:01
oskudedarkanyel: best is relative. period!02:01
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ubuntu_hello people02:01
oskudedarkanyel: try them both and see yourself02:01
darkanyelso... witch is better now02:01
variantphysicsnick: try it on edgy.. its very very nice :) edgy in general is excellent actualy02:01
physicsnickyeah. i'm currently in the process of upgrading to edgy02:02
physicsnickapt-get crashed twice so far, so i'm a bit edgy on this whole upgrade *snicker*02:02
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Alakazam_lol physicsnick02:02
darkanyelbut in edgy i dont know how to install the ati driver....02:02
Alakazam_STOOPID!02:02
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martijnoskude: thanks for your help. I can't figure this out though. I've tried reinstalling python2.4-cairo, but that doesn't fix it.02:02
Alakazam_:P02:02
martijnI'm going to give up on gnochm for now02:03
oskudemartijn: good boy ;)02:03
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wrabbit^11 minutes till d-day02:04
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wrabbit^or k-day I should say02:05
martijnWhat do you think, should I file a bug or is this something screwed up in my system only? I didn't do any manual installs or anything02:05
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Cypher87simple question: is there a way to get the PID only from a given processname?02:06
oskudemartijn: dunno, it works here with out errors.. but if you have good error/debug logs, a bugreport wouldnt hurt02:06
oskudeCypher87:  ps aux | grep firefox (but maybe ps can do that directly too)02:06
wrabbit^Who was it that said openSuSE is rubbish before?  Sorry, I've lost it02:06
Cypher87oskude, I only want the PID, no other information02:07
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Cypher87if thats possible of course02:07
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oskudeCypher87: everything is possiple :) just grep/whatever it more02:07
Cypher87hehe ok, will try ;)02:08
physicsnickwrabbit^, <Alakazam_> wrabbit^, opensuse sucks in my eyes... suse sucks in my eyes period.02:08
physicsnick<Alakazam_> its ugly, and VERY slow.02:08
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Alakazam_yes02:09
Alakazam_that is a fact02:09
Alakazam_its slow and sloppy02:09
wrabbit^cheers physicsnick02:09
wrabbit^You run any other distros Alakazam_?02:09
oskudeCypher87: here a noobish quick oneliner: ps -e | grep firefox | cut -d" " -f202:09
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hockyhairwhy would packages be held back during an apt-get upgrade?02:09
Alakazam_wrabbit^, i did run mandriva cooker.02:09
Mirrohello all!02:09
Alakazam_ive used fedora, slackware, gentoo, suse, mandriva, beos, freebsd02:10
Alakazam_and many others.02:10
wrabbit^ah, if that's anything like it's original mandrake, I like it.  Or is that the same thing02:10
jtickleword02:10
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Alakazam_CentOS02:10
wrabbit^Alakazam_: freeBSD ... worth a try?  or only for the far more experienced02:10
Cypher87oskude, ty very much ^02:10
Cypher87^^02:10
wickedpuppywrabbit^, no .. its very nice02:10
Alakazam_wrabbit^, it has shitty hardware support02:11
Mirroi have a quastion, i just loaded Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD, is there possibilitz to run xgl live too?02:11
Alakazam_other than that, its great02:11
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wrabbit^yeah, I'd be wary about installing freeBSD on my thinkpad02:11
wickedpuppyAlakazam_, did you try during 5.x ?02:11
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Alakazam_yeah wickedpuppy 5.202:11
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physicsnickMirro, sure as far as i know. you don't need to reboot to install xgl, you just need to log out02:11
physicsnickif the livecd will let you do that, then you can do it02:11
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wickedpuppyAlakazam_, 5 series was the worst .. they had a lead dev left them for another distro02:12
Alakazam_ick02:12
physicsnickMirro, looking to install Beryl?02:12
Alakazam_i didnt know that.02:12
snikkerhow can i know how to wich device is connected my usb bluetooth pen?02:12
Mirrophzsicsnick, thx!02:12
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wickedpuppywrabbit^, i know a friend with netbsd on its laptop for 3 years ....02:12
wrabbit^wickedpuppy: only the guys who know what they're doing say that.  Newcomers to linux, like me, wouldn't know what to do with the thing02:12
Alakazam_but still, that doesn't help their hardware support02:12
MirroBeryl? no, dunno what it is02:12
physicsnicklooking to install Compiz then?02:12
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hockyhairi was told why ubuntu users are generally not advised to manually compile/install the kernel but i forget the reason02:12
Mirrono, i|m just plazing around so far02:12
ptyMirro: Beryl is a fork from compiz02:12
wrabbit^wickedpuppy: yeah, I've heard that netbsd is quite good but as a desktop/home use machine?  I dunno02:12
physicsnickyeah.02:12
oskudehockyhair: maybe cause they dont know what they are doing ?02:13
Cypher87gtg, cya02:13
physicsnickMirro, why bother installing xgl if you're not going to install a 3d compositing window manager? :D02:13
oskudehockyhair: and its a lot easier to install from repo or from dapper deb package...02:13
Alakazam_http://www.pcbsd.org/02:13
physicsnickMirro, http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-4861-1.html02:14
hockyhairoskude: ubuntu will keep kernel uptodate if you choose not to do it manually?02:14
Mirrook, where can i get it? ))02:14
Alakazam_that looks promising02:14
Mirroty02:14
wickedpuppyAlakazam_, bsd has very good portage system .. excellent02:14
Alakazam_yep02:15
oskudehockyhair: yes... (uptodate = fixing bugs)02:15
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physicsnickMirro, whenever it asks you to reboot, log out instead02:15
Alakazam_as long as your hardware had modules, you're alright.02:15
physicsnickother than that it should work02:15
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Alakazam_brb02:15
physicsnickif you don't mind, send me a /msg after you do it to let me know if it works from the livecd, i'm curious02:15
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oskudehockyhair: and that "self compiling" doesn just mean ubuntu, an all distros its better to use their package managers, after all, thats why they where invented...02:16
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Mirrois it ok, that i cant read my HDD when loaded live ubuntu?02:16
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physicsnickMirro, yes. what filesystem is on it?02:17
oskudehockyhair: but there are programs that dont have packages or are in repos for ubuntu, so there the only way is to compile by yourself (and it really aint rocket-science)02:17
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wrabbit^yeah, pcBSD does actually look pretty impressive. BSD for the home desktop02:17
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Alakazam_man, kde's coming along nicely02:17
zak_any idea how to deal with this? dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 12317 package `eclipse-pde': missing version02:17
Mirrono idea, pre-installed WinXP..02:18
zak_apt [or dpkg?]  won't do anything, it just spits out that error [or an error that upon trying to fix gives that error] 02:18
wrabbit^Alakazam_: Was just saying, pcBSD actually looks like it could break into the home desktop02:18
wrabbit^i'd run it02:18
Mirroit says it cant mount it or sumthing02:18
hockyhairoskude: what about as far as security, i noticed that the current kernel package after doing update/upgrade is still older than what's avail02:18
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Alakazam_yeah wrabbit^ its worth lookin into02:19
oskudehockyhair: and what makes you think "older" is bad ?02:19
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Alakazam_granted it supports your hardware02:19
undac0vacan anyone help me with a resolution problem with kubuntu?02:19
wrabbit^Alakazam_: especially if it's probably the best way to learn BSD02:19
wrabbit^thanks for the link02:20
Alakazam_no problem02:20
oskudehockyhair: actually its otherway round, older is more secure, as more people has tested it (imho)02:20
wickedpuppywrabbit^, do you think ubuntu is the best way to learn linux?02:20
Alakazam_there's really no "learning" bsd... its just a little different is all02:20
wrabbit^wickedpuppy: to be honest, no02:20
Alakazam_the way the deviced are named, the partitioning shceme02:20
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wickedpuppythought so02:21
wickedpuppy:P02:21
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Alakazam_br ciggy time02:21
wrabbit^wickedpuppy: I see your point. very sly02:21
oskudehockyhair: and even that the kernel in ubuntu seems "older" than the vanilla kernel, there are many fixes in ubuntus kernel (i heard)02:21
wrabbit^hehe02:21
wickedpuppybtw wrabbit^ check this page ...http://www.pcbsd.org/index.php?p=learnhome02:21
wrabbit^godammit.  I finished apt-get installing kde and now it won't show up when I restart and look in sessions02:22
physicsnick:/02:22
physicsnickapt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:22
wrabbit^argh!02:22
physicsnickheh02:22
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profoX`anyone who has experience with XV Video Overlay in tv-out ?02:22
wrabbit^I just downloaded 220 or so mb of god knows what02:23
physicsnickbeware, your computer will now say kubuntu when you turn it on02:23
physicsnickand you'll be looking at kde's login manager02:23
wrabbit^wickedpuppy: I've bookmarked the pcBSD page for later use :)02:23
profoX`will video overlay in tv-out give me only the movie that is playing fullscreen on the tv, even when i put the movie to the bg?02:23
physicsnickwrabbit^, it's almost certainly all the same thing in kubuntu-desktop02:23
wickedpuppywrabbit^, pcbsd is using freebsd6 underneath ...02:23
physicsnickprobably won't be a big download to get what's left02:23
oskudehockyhair: or have you found a bug in dappers kernel ?02:23
wickedpuppyits freebsd with make up and all02:23
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wrabbit^sweet02:24
ashzillahi, is there a xubuntu channel?02:24
wrabbit^alright physicsnick, I'll do it but if I'm sucked into some kind of black hole, I'm coming after you02:24
totall_6_7!xubuntu02:24
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop02:24
physicsnickashzilla, yep, guess what it is... #xubuntu02:24
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hockyhairoskude: thanks, i gotta run..02:25
totall_6_7you'd think the channel would be included in ubotu02:25
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wrabbit^physicsnick: another 72meg02:25
physicsnick:/02:26
wrabbit^21 minutes remainig02:26
wrabbit^remaining*02:26
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physicsnickwrabbit^, it's worth it... once i started using kde i never looked back to gnome again02:26
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wrabbit^I've never used gnome. :) first thing I did was install xfce02:27
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physicsnickah. well xfce feels like a stripped down gnome :p02:27
wrabbit^wickedpuppy: might give pcBSD a go on my thinkpad.  I hardly bothered with drivers on this thing.  I have no idea what's in t02:27
wrabbit^physicsnick: ah, hehe.  Well I'm on a mission tonight02:28
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wickedpuppywrabbit^, i should tell ya though bsd got more driver problems than linux ...02:28
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wickedpuppyif you are reallly geeky ... try opensolaris02:28
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physicsnickhehe02:28
wrabbit^wickedpuppy: so I've heard.  takes a while for the hardware support to catch up02:28
steven43126hi02:28
wickedpuppyi seen it on one laptop before02:28
physicsnickmy string theory prof uses opensolaris02:28
physicsnickhe's really geeky02:28
wrabbit^700mhz doesn't run much02:28
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dj_baggiohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1583465#post158346502:29
wickedpuppyso unless he opens his laptop , his solaris may not may not be running ?02:29
physicsnickMirro, does it work?02:29
dj_baggioit's my problem :/02:29
wrabbit^zing02:29
steven43126anyone know a good GUI program for testing regular expressions ?02:29
martalliI gave my partner a thinkpad 600e (~333 mhz) that actually runs kde without too much trouble02:29
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physicsnickuhohes. apt-get crashed for the third time while dist-upgrading to edgy02:29
oskudesteven43126: i know there is one, forgot the name...02:29
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martalliIt's a matter of having 128-256 mb memory, and most of those 300-700mhz machine have to be upgraded to reach that02:29
physicsnicki get the feeling that this thing is not going to reboot02:30
wrabbit^I think I'm stuck with 12802:30
steven43126oskude, lol same as02:30
physicsnickuntil i format it02:30
leeyeeI think so. But KDE is slower than GNOME indeed02:30
wrabbit^physicsnick: you in a rush for edgy?02:30
physicsnicknope02:30
wrabbit^just testing eh02:30
gnomefreakdj_baggio: what are you trying to do?02:30
physicsnickyep02:30
physicsnicki want to get rid of xgl02:30
physicsnickbut i still want my wobbly windows02:30
wrabbit^haha02:30
Mirrophysicsnick, on login it got only GNOME or failsafe gnome etc in session options...02:30
steven43126oskude, came across on written in tcl that won't do copy and paste and seems unmaintained a GTK one would be nice02:30
physicsnickMirro, that's what it's supposed to be02:31
aftertafwobbly windows :)02:31
oskudesteven43126: apt-cache search regular expression : gives atleast this "kodos - A visual regular expression editor" look results for more...02:31
physicsnickMirro, gnome will start xgl02:31
Mirrowell ok, then i dont understand how to start xgl02:31
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physicsnickopen a terminal, and type beryl-xgl02:31
gnomefreakdj_baggio: by the looks of it you have packages that dont belong in dapper but belong in edgy and that makes for a bad day02:31
physicsnickwait02:31
^Ocean^physicsnick, if u have an Nvidia card, and u want to install the betta nvidia drivers u can get beryl going with out XGL02:31
physicsnickscratch that, type beryl-xgl &02:31
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gnomefreakphysicsnick: and Mirro please join #ubuntu-xgl02:32
physicsnick^0cean^, yes, but not on dapper02:32
Mirroterminal....02:32
wrabbit^crap... 15 days to go and I have 6 gig left on my limit02:32
Mirro#searching#02:32
wrabbit^I'm screwed02:32
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fatbrainHow do I restart ALSA?02:32
physicsnickMirro, #ubuntu-xgl02:32
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martalliDoes ubuntu have something like alsaconf?02:32
physicsnickyeah02:33
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physicsnickmartalli, double click the speaker in the system tray02:33
Peter77how do I use apm instead of acpi?02:33
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infoBhello02:34
martalliphysicsnick - it just has an X overlying the speaker icon.  I clicked on it, and it brings up the mixer, but ith no choices in the drop down menu02:34
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Peter77anyone?02:35
infoBis there any option or action for dpkg that tells me in which folders package is installed?02:35
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physicsnickmartalli, hmm, i don't know then, sorry :(02:35
fatbrain!alsa02:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems02:35
martallithanks anyway02:35
lordiWhat kernel does ubuntu use?02:35
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wickedpuppylordi, which version of ubuntu ?02:36
martallilordi - type uname -r02:36
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martalliin the command line02:36
shiningis it possible to split a thread on the forum ?02:36
lordi6.06 desktop02:36
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shiningany forum admin here ?02:36
lordinot installed yet, needs no know if my nic will work or not02:36
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Alakazam_SEATBELT!02:37
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wickedpuppylordi, does it work with current stable version ?02:37
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lordii have not tryed yet02:37
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|thunderis there a command to display system uptime ?02:37
lordiwhat kernel does 6.06 desktop uses?02:37
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flaccidi got this: 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:13:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux02:38
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wickedpuppyflaccid, you are using edgy ?02:38
wickedpuppyor dapper ?02:38
flacciddapper02:38
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coyctecm|thunder: uptime02:38
|thunderLinux amd64 2.6.15-27-386   for 6.06.1 + update02:38
|thundercoyctecm; thanks02:39
physicsnicklol02:39
jribshining: try #ubuntuforums02:39
lordii needs 2.6.9 kernel02:39
wickedpuppylordi, i were you i get a live cd and test ...02:39
anjohi, how do you save keyboard shortcuts in xchat?02:39
physicsnicklordi, why?02:39
wrabbit^please tell me that kubuntu-desktop comes with tux racer02:39
anjosry for the big screenshot - http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5028/7944gy2.png02:39
lordii read that my nick will work with that one or later02:39
wickedpuppywrabbit^, no tux racer .. but got its clone02:39
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wrabbit^wickedpuppy: good enough :D02:39
flaccidwhat is the clone called02:39
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wickedpuppyplanet penguin racer02:40
lordiD-Link DGE-528T <-- Gbit network card02:40
wrabbit^hehe02:40
wrabbit^oh, you're seroius02:40
wickedpuppyget it now for free!!! while stock last02:40
wrabbit^serious*02:40
iwksehi..anybody got experience with ftp login using "connect to server..." and error in creating folders or files? I can modify but not create..i get permissions error. But with other ftp i can create everything...02:40
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wrabbit^lol02:40
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flaccidwickedpuppy: package name?02:40
flaccidor binary name02:40
fildowhats this flaccid ?02:40
wickedpuppyflaccid, surely if you grep for penguin racer i doubt you will find many packages02:41
|thunderbwaa haa02:41
cucohi, i am building a package for ubuntu, which needs to create some mysql tables. on debian, i used the extra file: debian.cnf. this does not work on ubuntu. any ideas whay can i do...?02:41
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flaccidplanetpenguin-racer02:41
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aftertaftux racer aint free?02:42
wickedpuppyno more02:42
anjoxchat > seetings > advanced > keybaord shortcuts \02:42
aftertafsuckage!02:42
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anjohow do you save the new key combo ? I want F12 to be /NP but it won't sabe Data1 entries02:43
wickedpuppywhy ? there is the clone ... and its really very good02:43
anjosave*02:43
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THX-1138Good Morning wickedpuppy.02:43
wickedpuppymorning THX-1138  ... your nick came from a movie .. isn't it ?02:43
Alakazam_brb02:44
THX-1138wickedpuppy - yes,02:44
wrabbit^I was jus tabout to say that your name looks very familiar02:44
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wrabbit^clue?02:44
anjocpme on guys..02:44
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anjoit's a freaking shortcut..02:44
THX-1138wickedpuppy - "buy,,, Buy more... buy more now!"02:44
wrabbit^:\02:45
wrabbit^clue #202:45
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anjo894 users02:46
kyja89202:46
wrabbit^sorry anjo, I have no idea02:46
altimod_89202:46
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aftertafwickedpuppy: suckage from free to nonfree....02:46
aftertaflike xchat02:46
anjo:-) thanks wrabbit02:46
aftertafif u stuck under windose, its shareware :/02:46
wrabbit^THX-1138: George Lucas?02:46
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anjogood movie02:47
wrabbit^anjo: hehe, np.  It's frustrating when people odn't answer02:47
THX-1138wrabbit - Yes.02:47
wickedpuppymirc ? its never shareware for me .. i always get the serial :P02:47
wrabbit^THX-1138: sweet02:47
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anjoi have the directors cut :-D02:47
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wrabbit^time to give kubuntu desktop a shot02:48
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wickedpuppywrabbit^, try kdevelop ... qt is damn good02:48
wrabbit^hoping there's a python ide02:49
wrabbit^otherwise, hello again DrPython02:49
nearfarwrabbit^: Eric3 Python IDE02:49
nearfaror hell, just use emacs02:49
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fatbrainHow can I re-install grub?02:51
fatbrainI installed windows on a partition, and it ... removed it.02:51
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jribubotu: tell fatbrain about grub02:51
iwksefatbrain: use a live distro02:51
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wickedpuppyfatbrain, never install windows last ....02:52
josh_how do i get to my samba share from windows?02:52
iwksewickedpuppy: never install windows at all :\02:52
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josh_i put in my user and password for my linux share but i cant access it from my wifes computer02:52
wrabbit^zing02:52
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fatbrain!grub02:52
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:52
josh_i see it there, i just cant connect02:52
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wickedpuppyiwkse, windows is not bad if its free and opensource ... LOL02:52
darkanyelhi02:53
josh_windows = spyware02:53
josh_lol02:53
iwksejosh_: i guess you're using linux & windows?02:53
josh_correction... i use linux02:53
darkanyelhow can i make beryl-manage run on start-up?02:53
iwksewickedpuppy: windows is free to hack :-] 02:53
josh_lol i cant make the wife get off windows02:53
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Zv_oDDHow do i turn my xbuntu desktop into the mian Windows FileSharing Server on my network? ie are there ne easy samba packages out there?02:54
iwksejosh_: you should uninstall windows to your wife pc...thats a great idea:)02:54
wickedpuppyjosh_, clearly you are not trying enough ... show her tom cruise licking ubuntu logo and she will be a convert02:54
trmhi can anyone help me get my dvd player to work on a new installation, i have vlc and movie player but they dont work02:54
josh_lol wickedpuppy she dont like tom cruise02:54
iwksejosh_: anyway, if you want access, you can obtain only if you don't specific user & pass..typical windows style:)02:54
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josh_and i have tried takin a pic of me liicking the logo and she still wont do it02:54
josh_ahh02:55
josh_the infamous no nick no pass02:55
Peter77tried apm, no difference02:55
aftertafZv_oDD: install samba.02:55
iwksejosh_: yap, in other way won't work02:55
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vanhtu1987trm: you need to install libdvdcss package.02:55
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josh_nope that didn't work02:55
josh_lol funny thing is02:55
josh_i got the drive to map before02:55
trmvanhtu1987, i checked synaptic nothing there02:55
Zv_oDDaftertaf, how?02:55
darkanyelhelp02:55
josh_now it just wont let me connect02:55
darkanyelhow can i make beryl-manage run on start-up?02:55
vanhtu1987trm: By default Ubuntu comes with almost no support for multimedia02:56
josh_darkanyel: through it in inittab02:56
iwksejosh_: you need to access to windows share or linux share?02:56
trmvanhtu1987, i know its extremely lame02:56
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josh_linux share02:56
josh_i can get to windows easy02:56
iwksejosh_: ah..now i catch...02:56
josh_i mapped my linux share before but now it wont let me access it02:56
trmhow do i get libdvdcss ?02:56
darkanyelsory i dint understand02:56
iwksejosh_: so just take a look at /etc/samba/smb.conf02:56
NET||abuseif i want to run wine on dapper, should i just install the package from existing debs? or is there a recomended deb to add and use?02:57
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Mirromy system is hanging how to restart?02:57
vanhtu1987trm: You may want to take a look at 'UbuntuGuide' (Google for it as I don't remember the Url)02:57
iwksejosh_: you need to allow access for user and share02:57
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Mirroany shortcut?02:57
wickedpuppyMirro, keep pressing the powr button ?02:57
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wickedpuppyif it hanging .. whats the point of pressing the shortcut on the keyboard ?02:57
Mirrothe whole menu doesnt work02:57
vanhtu1987trm: They had a reason not to include the non-free component in the distro.02:57
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jendaMirro: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will restart X... but might not work on a hanging system.02:58
jribubotu: tell trm about dvd02:58
Wompum_Rednecktry ctrl alt f102:58
josh_ok im looking at smb.conf02:59
wickedpuppyif he can press the keyboards .. then his com is not hanging ...02:59
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josh_i see the part i need to change i just dont know the syntax format i need to input the users02:59
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aftertafZv_oDD: with apt or synaptic.02:59
anjomirro - a laptop or normal PC keyboard ?02:59
aftertafZv_oDD: then hit gogle for help on setting it up. theres bags of info out there02:59
iwksejosh_: look at smb.conf.example02:59
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Wompum_Redneckpower button always works too02:59
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darkanyelhow can i make beryl-manage run automaticly???03:01
Lunar_Lampargh, sometimes if i tap "skip track" a couple of times in amarok it just skips through the entire playlist playing about the first second of each, and with 2500 tracks this takes an age, and i can only stop it by killing amarok - is there a way to fix this?03:01
josh_ahh03:01
josh_i was using the wrong password03:01
josh_i setup samba with my password but i changed my linux password about 2 weeks ago03:02
josh_how do i change my smb passwd?03:02
josh_smbpasswd josh03:02
josh_?03:02
wickedpuppysmbpasswd ?03:02
wickedpuppyyah03:02
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Kutohi03:02
josh_yep03:02
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darkanyelhow can i make beryl-manage run on start-up?03:02
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anjoLunar_Lamp - i don't know amarok .. but it sounds like you have activated a "preview" mode03:03
vanhtu1987darkanyel: you may try putting the command in /etc/rc.local03:03
Peter77well I'm going back to suse as I can't fix this battery level monitor in ubuntu03:03
darkanyelanyone use compiz??03:03
Kutohi03:03
Kutocan u guys rename amd64 to x86_64 pls03:03
Lunar_Lampanjo - no it's not like that - it's skipping through the tracks as if the button has been held down03:03
anjoperhaps slowly double clicking stops the preview mode ? or check shortcuts?03:04
anjooh..03:04
Kutocan u guys rename amd64 to x86_64 pls03:04
anjolol03:04
variantanyone know how to disable the framebuffer with the ubuntu dapper live cd?03:04
josh_can i do a : path = / if i want to be able to access all files and folders from windows using the root account?03:04
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aftertafvariant: cant you interrupt the boot and put nofb as an option?03:04
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variantaftertaf: yeah, is it just nofb then ?03:05
aftertafnot sure, but could be03:05
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variantaftertaf: booting hte live cd in "safe graphics mode" still enables the fb ..03:05
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fu-k-ti am having trouble with a network install03:05
fu-k-twould anyone be willing to help me out?03:06
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josh_how do i specify users allowed to access a share?03:06
boinknetwork .. off nfs?03:06
Lunar_Lampanjo - amarok becomes unresponsive - i can't do anything with it other than kill03:06
josh_i dont want all to be able to access my root share... just my root account...03:06
fu-k-tboink: off pxe/tftp03:06
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aftertafvariant: it is -nofb but i dont know if you can interrupt boot up from live cd like with grub03:06
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anjoLunar_Lamp,  sry, i don't know. i was guessing03:06
fu-k-tfor some reason tftp isn't working03:06
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fu-k-tand i am stumped03:06
wickedpuppyjosh_, would it be better to ask in #samba ?03:07
UKMattis there a codec that i'm missing that allows you to play .avi's?  I thought I had them all but the .avi's i'm trying are blurred03:07
Lunar_Lampyeah, no worries anjo = i was just hoping smoeone would know03:07
variantaftertaf: yes you can03:07
aftertafvariant: ok, try -nofb then03:07
variantaftertaf: thnx03:07
fu-k-tUKMatt: get vlc media player03:07
aftertaf:)03:07
boinkfukt: are you using a Soekris box?03:07
aftertafok, sleepage.03:07
josh_ahh03:07
josh_yeah that makes sense03:07
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UKMattfu-k-t, nope still blurred..03:08
fu-k-tboink: i don't know what that means, so i'm going to guess no03:08
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fu-k-ti just installed tftpd and dhcp on one of my ubuntu machines03:08
fu-k-tand dhcp is working perfectly03:08
fu-k-tbut03:08
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anjoLunar_Lamp, http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/381046.html03:08
boinksorry, Soekris is a special type of computer which requires a tftp install.03:08
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UKMattfu-k-t, what about this, "All stand-alone DivX Players compatible, Needs AC3 Codec Installed."03:09
fu-k-twhenever i go to network boot, my other computer gets its dhcp assignment03:09
fu-k-tthen says "pxe-e32: tftp open timeout"03:09
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Attharhi, how i can play mp3 files in ubuntu? where i can downlaod the codecs?03:09
Peter77could my problem be because I'm using a replacement battery in my laptop and not an official sony battery?03:09
fu-k-tafter searching for a tftp server for quite some time03:09
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vanhtu1987Atthar: Googling for 'UbuntuGuide' could help.03:10
fu-k-ti've done sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart03:10
fu-k-tand everything looks fine03:10
UKMattdoes anyone know how to get DivX support in ubuntu?03:10
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fu-k-ti've even edited my dhcpd.conf to add a next-server with the address of the tftp server03:11
THX-1138!ubuntuguide03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
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gerhardjo03:11
fu-k-tbut nothing seems to work03:11
gerhardi need to play wmv files03:11
fu-k-tany thought, anybody?03:11
oriashttp://www.getautomatix.com/03:11
iwkseUKMatt: install, w32codecs && ffmpeg plugin03:11
gerhardhow do i do?03:11
morphirhow do I update to the latest i855GM-drivers on my dapper?03:12
iwksegerhard: look at UKMatt reply03:12
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UKMattiwkse, i'm pretty sure i have those, limme check03:12
gerhardthx iwkse03:12
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fu-k-toh, and i should also add that if i tftp localhost, it works perfectly03:12
fu-k-tso i KNOW the tftp server is up and running03:13
fu-k-tbut i can't get my other computer to find it03:13
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gerhardiwkse i also have them03:13
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imc_ANyone Know the name of the text file that controls mailbox filters on thunderbird?03:13
fu-k-tperhaps it is a problem with my dhcp.conf?03:13
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UKMattiwkse, do I need libavformat-dev03:14
fu-k-ti have no experience with running a dhcp server03:14
Codemasterhey guys, I'm having an odd problem with my repository - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27156803:14
fu-k-tthis is what my config file looks like:03:14
variantanyone know how to find out the cpu temperature on an apm only device?'03:14
fu-k-tsubnet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0 {03:14
fu-k-t  range 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2;03:14
oriaswhen it comes to codecs the easiest way i find is to install them using automatix, its a simple way of installing all the programs and codecs ur likely to use you should download a program called automatix03:14
orias<orias> it'll easily install all the programs and codecs ur likely to use http://www.getautomatix.com/03:14
UKMattiwkse, nm, well I have those two..03:14
fu-k-t  next-server C0A8020D;03:14
imc_variant does gkrellm not work on that?03:14
fu-k-t filename "pxelinux.0";03:14
fu-k-t}03:14
variantimc_: im using the ubuntu live cd03:15
fu-k-tplease, anyone03:15
imc_Ah03:15
fu-k-ti am so totally at a loss03:15
variantimc_: i am looking for a command'03:15
iwkseUKMatt: which player are you using?03:15
imc_yeah, had one somewheres. . .  lemme look :)03:15
oriasmplayer my favourite03:15
variantimc_: with acpi i just do cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THZN/temperature03:15
UKMattiwkse, any, I've tried VLC and Movie Player03:15
oriasbut xine and vlc are just as good03:15
anjofu-k-t, subnet and mask look wrong03:15
iwkseUKMatt: try totem03:15
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imc_variant: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature03:16
imc_?03:16
oriasactually i find vlc and xine are better when it comes to dvds and vcds03:16
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variantimc_: thats an acpi interface, i said apm03:16
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imc_Ouch!03:16
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imc_Sorry variant03:16
oriasits just a matter of preference really03:16
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variantimc_: so you should be03:16
fu-k-tanjo: i get a dhcp assignment, and since this is a trivial (1 client) setup, those shouldn't hinder anything03:16
fu-k-tanjo: but what would you suggest i change them to?03:17
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UKMattiwkse, this is dumb but how?  I have it installed but don't see it anywhere03:17
docmurdoes any one know the name of a good web filter for linux other then squid and dansguardian03:17
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kamui``hi03:17
wrabbit^yes, kubuntu is indeed sweet :)03:17
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kamui``how can i listen to teamspeak and other application at the same time?03:17
iwkseUKMatt: dont you have it in menu'03:17
iwkse?03:17
aftertafwrabbit^: yeah!!!03:18
physicsnickhey wrabbit^, you're in kubuntu finally?03:18
wrabbit^physicsnick: haha, yes :)03:18
UKMattiwkse, it's marked in synaptic, but isn't in menu or under Other Applications when I right click the file03:19
physicsnickgood work :)03:19
physicsnickanyway i just upgrading to edgy03:19
wrabbit^now I've gotta apt-get install this tux game03:19
physicsnickgonna restart... moment of truth...03:19
wrabbit^hasn't crashed?03:19
aftertafhehe03:19
anjofu-k-t, a dhcp server? i dunno. my bad, i thought you meant client install03:19
iwkseUKMatt: reinstall it03:19
wrabbit^what was it called again?  planetux-racer?  I'll apt-cache search it03:19
Alakazam_YEAH you do that.03:20
wrabbit^ok, I will03:20
fu-k-twell, i've got one ubuntu box i'm using as a dhcp and pxe server03:20
UKMattiwkse, out of curiosity, can I uninstall in synaptic and then reinstall or do I have to close synaptic in between03:20
Alakazam_lol03:20
THX-1138wrabbit^ - neverball - is also a lot of fun.03:20
fu-k-tand i'm trying to use that to net-install another box03:20
iwkseUKMatt: there's a reinstall command03:20
wrabbit^bah, nothing03:20
wrabbit^I'll try that aswell THX-1138, thanks03:20
THX-1138Has anyone seen flightgear? - is it worth trying?03:21
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\pub\bash0ris now someone here who has an idea regarding my problem? (description here: http://aksdb.homeip.net/shorewallproblem.html)03:22
UKMattiwkse, still no change, you're talking about the plain "totem" file right03:22
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iwkseUKMatt: i think you broke something in your system. Totem should be in your menu. open a terminal and write totem03:23
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physicsnickyay!03:23
WulongWhat are the base packages I need to get X working? xbase-clients, xinit and xorg?03:23
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highnekoI deleted my gnome kicker. How can I make a new one?03:23
ashzillaHi, I just ran apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:23
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UKMattiwkse, alright I ran it in that and its scrambled too03:23
ashzillaI started with Xubuntu, but did not like it as much03:23
ashzillabut, after I finish installing the ubuntu desktop03:24
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ashzillaDo I need to make any system changes to make sure gnome is used as my display manager03:24
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trancomo puedo cambiar de canal?03:26
THX-1138!es03:26
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:26
traneo03:26
tranayudaaaaaaaaaaa03:26
tranplis03:26
tranq pongo03:26
tranpara cambiar de canal03:27
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THX-1138We can try to help. it will take longer and because of language likely be wrong.03:27
vanhtu1987Hi, does anyone know what is the different between the proprietary NVidia 3D driver and nvidia-glx ? What is more compatible ?03:27
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fu-k-tHAH!03:28
fu-k-ti got it!03:28
Alakazam_vanhtu1987, just use what comes with Ubuntu03:28
Alakazam_you're not going to notice much of a difference if any.03:28
THX-1138vanhtu - I have used both. - no noticeable difference.03:28
ashzillaAnyone?03:28
wrabbit^wow, neverball is addictive03:28
fu-k-tfor anyone keeping score at home, the tftp server needs to be in the same subnet as the client's assigned address03:28
wrabbit^lol03:28
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ashzillaCan anyone help? Will I need to make any system cahnges after installing ubuntu-desktop03:28
ashzillaor do I just restart to use gnome03:28
vanhtu1987Alakazam_: thanks, I guess I'll choose nvidia-glx03:29
Alakazam_yes, do that.03:29
Alakazam_:)03:29
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webbenI downloaded the latest Edgy iso yesterday03:30
webbenIt boots okay03:30
webbenbut then when i say try and launch the Text Editor03:30
webbena Loading notice appears in the bottom panel for a while then disappears03:31
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webbensame happens with terminal03:31
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webbenanyone else experienced anything like that?03:31
THX-1138Alakazam_ - Did you take you nick from the World of Warcraft information site? - What realm?  (Gnomeregan "Emacs" mage)03:32
mcphailwebben: ask in #ubuntu+103:32
webbenmcphal: ah, thanks03:32
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Alakazam_THX-1138, no... ive had this name for about 4 years03:33
cratukiI've got a whizbang new dual core intel chip. Should I be using a '-server' kernel, or the 686 one, or something else?03:33
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segfaultcratuki, 68603:33
THX-1138Alakazam - Is my devotion (addiction?) to WoW showing? - lol03:33
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cratukisegfault: thanks.03:33
segfaultnp03:34
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vanhtu1987Alakazam_: apt-cache showed me the nvidia-glx package requires one of the older kernel (15-23), but I'm using 15-27.03:34
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DeKohey all03:35
Alakazam_hmm03:36
THX-1138vanhtu1987 - There won't be any conflicts. - obviously it is better to match them perfectly.03:36
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Alakazam_vanhtu1987, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:36
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luckyone_hello everyone03:36
vanhtu1987THX-1138: I hope so, after reading the above guide, thank Alakazam_03:37
luckyone_what are some command line tools I can use to monitor disk io by process?03:37
Alakazam_np03:37
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allucwhich do you think is the best CMS ?03:37
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oskudealluc: you can test many here http://opensourcecms.com/03:38
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THX-1138vanhtu1987 - After you install an accelerated driver take a peek at xcompmgr - Drop shadows and transparencies. you might of seen it already in KDE.03:38
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THX-1138!info violent rave03:40
ubotuPackage violent does not exist in dapper03:40
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luckyone_how do you tell what your disks are 'crunching' on when you think your box should be idle?03:41
docmurhow can I save the iptables so they start on boot03:41
windtwWhy don't have daily build today?03:41
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THX-1138ps -aux03:41
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THX-1138top03:42
windtwI want to try the Core Duo 2 Support.03:42
luckyone_how does top show disk io?03:42
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docmurdo I just use iptables-save03:44
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|rt|luckyone_: you could use iostat03:44
jrib /msg ubotu iptables03:44
jribI was trying to check if ubotu knew anything so ignore that :)03:45
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jribdocmur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo appears you are right03:46
Ragolafter apt-get dist-upgrade today my apt (or some of its libraries) is broken, everything related to apt-get gives me segfault03:46
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Ragolapt-get, adept, synaptic, update-manager03:46
Ragoloh, this is edgy system...03:46
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jribRagol: edgy in #ubuntu+1 please03:47
Ragolaa, okei03:47
Ragolokay, I meant03:47
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efuzzyonehow do I unlock all locked packages from command line instead of Synaptic?03:49
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Dr_willislocked ?03:50
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_thumper_anyone here know a simple way to test a microphone?03:50
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diminthedammy removable cdrom is failing all of a sudden. how do i know if its a hardware or soft problem?03:50
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siri_hi all03:51
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_thumper_using skype 1.3 I can hear but not be heard03:51
_thumper_not sure if it is skype or my mike03:51
gnomefreakjrib: i added the link ofr iptables :)\03:51
gnomefreakfor03:51
crimeboyclear03:51
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jribgnomefreak: thanks03:51
gnomefreakyw03:51
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smaxhi03:53
traneooooooo03:53
tranalguien q me ayude03:53
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highnekoIs it possible to add a panel in gnome?03:53
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smaxi installed ubuntu with out running the md5chksum on the cd.  is it possible to reinstall the OS with out having to wipe out my documents ?03:53
morphiris ubunnty03:54
^Ocean^yes03:54
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^Ocean^just install it and dont format the disk03:54
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tranhelp me03:54
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traneooooooooooooo03:54
smaxi'll make sure i wont.   thanx for Ocean03:54
diminthedammy removable cdrom is failing all of a sudden. how do i know if its a hardware or soft problem?03:54
jendasmax: Did you use a seperate /home partition?03:54
trancabrones ayudarme03:54
jendaThat's the best way - then you can even format the system disk and keep all your docs/settings03:55
morphiris ubuntu edgy code freesed?03:55
trancara mierdas ayudarmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee03:55
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jrib!es03:55
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:55
jribtran: and be nice...03:55
yhanhi03:55
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jribubotu: tell morphir about schedule03:55
THX-1138smax - former windows user? yes me too. Security in linux is a refreshingly welcome change. - Why would you want to reinstall? packages on the CD/DVD are compared to a list of sums during install.03:55
yhanafter dist-upgrading from 5.10 to dapper, I can't suspend my t42 anymore, any thoughts ?03:56
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cwraighey all03:56
cwraiganyone know where i can get some help for streamripper?03:56
guillem101highneko, just right mouse menu on panel blank-> add new panel03:57
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guillem101Any idea about when edgy is to be officially launched?03:58
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jribubotu: tell guillem101 about schedule03:59
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THX-1138highneko - Would the command gnome-panel help? - no idea if it will bring up a panel if both are removed.03:59
guillem101jrib, thanks03:59
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mike_sternhow can i start the ftp server on ubuntu plz?04:00
mike_sterni cant find ftpd04:00
THX-1138ftpd - maybe?04:00
jrib!ftp04:00
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd04:00
THX-1138sry - misread.04:00
jrib!info ftpd04:00
ubotuftpd: FTP server. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.17-21 (dapper), package size 41 kB, installed size 172 kB04:00
jribubotu: tell mike_stern about universe04:00
THX-1138jrib - cool04:01
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THX-1138jrib - comming from windows is an ftp server smaller than 15 million bytes fast? - j/k04:02
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mike_sterni think none is installed!04:02
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jribheh04:02
mike_sternhow can i install one?04:02
THX-1138172 kbs - What no msi installer? no .net? - lol04:02
jribmike_stern: you can install ftpd if you want that one by enabling universe and then using syantpic ro apt-get04:02
jribs/ro/or04:03
Kutohow do i enable smp?04:03
cmcubotu: tell cmc about universe04:03
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Kutoubotu, tell Kuto smp04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell Kuto smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
fourathow to reset root's password if forgotten ?04:03
cycomwhy doesn't ubuntu have perl 5.8.8?04:03
jrib!info perl04:04
ubotuperl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.7-10ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3219 kB, installed size 11172 kB04:04
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Dr_williscycom,  i would guess it came out after dapper was finalized.04:04
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jribcycom: it's in edgy04:04
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guillem101Kuto, install kernel with smp support04:04
jribubotu: tell cycom about schedule04:05
ashzillaafter I 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', how do i remove xcfe and use gnome04:05
Traeanyone know if gparted is on the Ubuntu CD?04:05
gnomefreakTrae: it is04:05
Traegnomefreak, danke04:05
gnomefreak!info gparted04:05
ubotugparted: partition editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB04:05
gnomefreakshould be04:05
cycommakes sense04:05
jribI believe it is04:05
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LookTJHi04:05
LookTJA site is not working for me04:06
ashzillagnomefreak: after I install ubunt-desktop, how do I remove the xubuntu display manager and use gnome?04:06
rodneyk!info postfix04:06
ubotupostfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 901 kB, installed size 2172 kB04:06
LookTJonly one site04:06
rodneyk!info postfix edgy04:06
ubotupostfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.3-1 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2436 kB04:06
Traehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/2233604:06
linuxactivistashzilla: you should be able to log out ans select gnome as your session when you try logging in again.  It should ask if you want to make it the default.04:06
fu-k-tfourat: you realize ubuntu by default doesn't set a root password, right?04:06
gnomefreakashzilla: you dont need to remove it but i would use manybe deborphan04:06
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ashzillagnomefreak: is that a package?04:07
gnomefreakashzilla: it is04:07
fouratfu-k-t, yes04:07
gnomefreak!deborphan04:07
ubotudeborphan is a program used to clean up unneeded packages that are no longer needed (install from Synaptic/Adept). Also consider using !aptitude04:07
fu-k-tfourat: okay, try sudo -s from an admin account, then passwd from there04:07
jrib"unneeded packages that are no longer needed" is a bit redundant04:07
ashzillagnomefreak: so what package would I want to deborphan, to remove xcfe04:07
gnomefreakashzilla: you can allso do it in synaptic04:07
fu-k-t(sudo -s gets you a root terminal)04:08
Traebbiab04:08
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gnomefreakashzilla: all xfce packages04:08
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gnomefreaklol jrib your right04:08
fransjust installed ubuntu 5.10, running for 30 minutes........will format now! and install OSX, don't like it, what do you guys like about  ubuntu??????????04:08
fouratfu-k-t, my user's account isnt in the sudoers04:08
fu-k-tfourat: otherwise, you can do it from the gui, but i forget where and i'm not on a ubuntu machine right now04:08
fu-k-tfourat: then you're fucked04:09
LookTJ!language04:09
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:09
Mitzianyone running xephem?04:09
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davvshow do i copy all files from folder a that is not in folder b to folder b?04:09
ExitMenuhi can some one please help me I have made a big mistake and did the following sudo usermod -Gsubversion user and now cant sudo anything, is there any way to fix this :(04:09
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fu-k-tfourat: unless you have sudo privileges, you can't get a root password04:09
gnomefreakfixed04:09
not-a-botHello, stupid beginners question: I need to run a daemon on Ubuntu startup without logging in, what is the recommended way to do so?04:10
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phrearchanyone knows why ivman doesnt start?04:10
not-a-botkissd (a kiss-dvd-player client)04:10
yhannot-a-bot, /etc/init.d04:10
phrearchcant get it to be a daemon :(04:10
LookTJfourat: go into recovery mode or goto the cammandline04:10
not-a-botthanks yhan :)04:10
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TarnMastersalve04:11
rupedo you have a live CD04:11
TarnMasterhi there04:11
ExitMenuso have I screwed my system guys or is there a fix ?04:11
not-a-botMhhh ... cannot open init.d04:11
not-a-botusing edgy eft current beta here, does upstart still use init.d ?04:12
TarnMasterI have (again) a big issue with the my IDE driver....04:12
not-a-botdamn typo, my fault :)04:13
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segfaultExitMenu, there is a fix04:13
ExitMenuis it reinstall :(04:14
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TarnMasterapparently the kernel driver is corrupting the HD, which isn't good at all....04:14
segfaultExitMenu, ull need to reboot into single user mode, then run usermod -G user again but this time as the option to G list all of the groups u wnat ur user in, and make sure to include admin and ur usernamelist all04:15
TarnMasterI suspect a buggy MOBO or IDE controller, but I'm unable to find references about that04:15
ExitMenukewl I will do that04:15
ExitMenuta04:15
TarnMasterprobably because I do not know what to search04:15
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diminthedammy removable cdrom is failing all of a sudden. how do i know if its a hardware or soft problem?04:16
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segfaultdiminthedam, try in another machine04:16
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diminthedamsegfault: good one! only its not possible for me04:17
GameCathi - can someone tell me how to add the GD library to php4?04:17
ghostshadow189hi all , i've a problem that i cant change my screen resolution when i run ubuntu in the cdrom boot04:18
segfaultdiminthedam, try looking at dmeg output for errors04:18
cyberfall_anyone use 7zip04:18
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cyberfall_or know of a gui that will make use of it and it options04:18
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ghostshadow189hi all , i've a problem that i cant change my screen resolution when i run ubuntu in the cdrom boot04:18
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diminthedamsegfault: dmesg says tha cdrom open failed. but i still dont know wheter that means hard/soft04:19
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Milleanyone could tell me why i can't move my buntu partition? i'm using the live-cd and gparted. but i can't actually move it forward.04:19
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cyberfall_ghostghost,  most of the time it has it locked at that resolution based on the driver is my guess04:19
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cyberfall_there a command that will reconfigure the package for xserver04:19
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cyberfall_or xorg whichever it is04:19
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cyberfall_that should point u in the right way to do some searching04:20
taylor_this is starting to annoy me04:20
ghostshadow189oh do u remember exactly ?04:20
frogzooGhost_Printer: ctrl + alt + '+'/'-'04:20
ghostshadow189xorg ?04:20
cyberfall_sorry no04:20
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taylor_i can't get http://moparisthebest.com to work04:20
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cyberfall_ya04:20
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taylor_it's not responding04:20
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segfaultghostshadow189, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:20
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ghostshadow189thanx :D04:21
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frogzooghostshadow189: ctrl + alt + '+'/'-'04:21
TarnMasterasking again.... did anyone beside me experienced problem (serious problem) with ide drivers under 2.6.15?04:21
ghostshadow189i'll try04:21
cyberfall_redhat is something like xfree86 but this distro uses what called xorg04:21
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cyberfall_TarnMaster,04:21
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humboltwhich joarnaling FS would you recommend for an external USB drive?04:21
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TarnMasteryes cyberfall_ ?04:21
cyberfall_i dont know how to tell what version i gotz04:21
frogzoohumbolt: nothing wrong with ext304:21
TarnMasteruname -r cyberfall_ :)04:21
segfaultghostshadow189, if ur on live cd tho not sure that will do it, i think u have to select res at boot menu, its been awhile since i used live cd i forget exactly04:21
MitziI have a file that I can run as root with a ./filename command but not as user even though I own it, how can I fix that?04:21
segfaulthumbolt, opinions vary i like reiser04:22
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frogzooMitzi: ls -l filename04:22
cyberfall_2.6.1504:22
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TarnMasterthus, did you have HD problems?04:22
burzumhow can i find out which nvidia driver is currently installed?04:22
cyberfall_nop04:22
cyberfall_none yet04:23
Mitzi-rwxrwxrwx 1 ian ian 4531936 2006-10-05 11:0604:23
ghostshadow189segfault : i used F4 key to change resolution to 1024 but it just work when install , when it go to ubuntu , i change to 640 and i cant change it04:23
frogzooTarnMaster: you mean like spate of bad fscks & losing data ?04:23
humboltfrogzoo: What I dislike about ext3 are the periodic fscks. Will that be the same for external USB drives mounted by gnome?04:23
frogzoohumbolt: periodic fscks are part of life04:23
TarnMasterfrogzoo, at the beginning yes.... after some time 'corrupted patition table' and no more boot04:24
samAAMitzi: the dir needs to be in ur PATH04:24
segfaultghostshadow189, after u have installed run this config ur res sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:24
\pub\bash0ris now someone here who has an idea regarding my problem? (description here: http://aksdb.homeip.net/shorewallproblem.html)04:24
cyberfall_anyone use 7zip and know of a linux version that a gui frontend04:24
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humboltTarnMaster: what do you mean?04:24
Milleanyone could help me with my partitions? having problems moving my ubuntu partition.04:24
ghostshadow189thanks , i'll try it right now04:24
jribcyberfall_: file roller04:24
jribubotu: tell cyberfall_ about 7zip04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 7zip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
cyberfall_segfault,  one problem he using a live disk04:25
jribdumb ubotu04:25
MitzisamAA, do I need to make a symbolic link or something?04:25
TarnMasterhumbolt, the problem manifest itself with the kernel having problems to mount the root file system04:25
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cyberfall_i know what 7zip is04:25
jribubotu: tell cyberfall_ about 7z04:25
cyberfall_just tryin to find an easyer way of doing the switches04:25
TarnMasterwhich seems to call for problems either in udev or in the initrd04:25
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cyberfall_seeing i dont understand it sytax04:25
jribcyberfall_: I know you know, the page just explains how it can be used with the archive manager04:25
jrib:)04:26
segfaultcyberfall_, oh he was unclear :) only way i think todo that is to do at boot04:26
samAAMitzi: change to the dir containing the file then run export PATH=${PATH}:$PWD04:26
cyberfall_oh oks04:26
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MitzisamAA, cheers, I'll give it a whirl :)04:26
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cyberfall_i try xarchiver but that was useless04:26
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TarnMasterhumbolt, I have a feeling that this is a problem with the IDE controller.... as this is the second HD which is having problem on thesame machine04:27
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humboltTarnMaster: Want an FS for my USB drive (non-root).04:27
MitzisamAA, I just did it but it gives me the same erros saying that the file already exists???04:27
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cyberfall_TarnMaster,  i havent been reading but did u run a hd test04:27
humboltWhat about reiserfs and xfs these days?04:27
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quiethumbolt, no reason to use anything other than ext304:28
taylor__omg04:28
taylor__omggg\04:28
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quietjfs is good for thumb drives though04:28
TarnMastercyberfall_, it depends what do you mean for that....04:28
taylor__i getting timeout errors04:28
ghostshadow189hi all , i've a question that does ubuntu support SATA hdd ?04:29
quietvery small footprint, very low CPU, but not really fast... but neither is USB.04:29
quietso jfsos a good fit.04:29
TarnMasterfsck is ok04:29
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samAAMitzi: I must have misunderstood, what's the problem04:29
cyberfall_TarnMaster,  it may not be the controller04:29
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cyberfall_it could be the drive failing04:29
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der0bghostshadow189: yes04:29
TarnMastercyberfall_, I know, I'm trying to understand what it is04:29
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ghostshadow189oh gr804:30
ghostshadow189thanx04:30
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cyberfall_well if it a maxtor got google for maxpower it maxtor drive test program04:30
guillem101ghostshadow189, it does in my case since more than a year right now04:30
LaneWhich distro has the best repositories04:30
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baxter_kylieHi. I have a question regarding raid0. If I create a software array on two extra disks (not disks ubuntu is on) and I later want to wipe my os drive an reinstall ubuntu or any other 'nix, can my raid array be taken with me with little trouble? If so... how?04:30
cyberfall_western digital has one also called datalife gaurd04:30
cyberfall_seagate has one also04:30
humboltBut fscking a 100GB dirve takes forever!04:30
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MitzisamAA, I have a file, I can run it as root with a ./filename commmand but not as a user04:31
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quietbaxter_kylie, sure you can.04:31
cyberfall_if u have been powerin down your linux box just holding the power button then u get what happens04:31
cyberfall_never power a linux box down that way04:31
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baxter_kyliequiet: is there anything special I need to do to preserve the data/settings?04:31
quietbeing  software RAID... the software just duplicates the data... so when you reinstall, you would just tell it to use a software raid again.04:31
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samAAMitzi: ah; so as the user you cd to the dir, then ./filename; what happens04:32
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bertugolulisten ppl, i have 5.1 surround but i only get sound from the front right and front left, how can i fix it?04:32
quietbaxter_kylie, do it with LVM and it04:32
TarnMastercyberfall_, I never do that:)04:32
quietbaxter_kylie, it's rather easy04:32
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cyberfall_that good04:32
highnekoIs the final release of edgy gonna be on oct 26th?04:32
MitzisamAA, it runs and the app starts up04:32
cyberfall_but go get powermax or maxpower whichever it is04:32
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TarnMastercyberfall_, I have a doubt.... the logical geometry is different from the physical one04:33
cyberfall_it will test any drive but can only some what try to fix it own make drive04:33
baxter_kyliequiet: I'm not nearly familiar enough with LVM to feel comfortable knowing what I'm doing... aren't I supposed to block everything out into 2gb partitions, then?04:33
humboltwhich partition type would I use for fat32? 0B W95 FAT32 or 0C W95 FAT32 (LBA)??04:33
cyberfall_what computer u using this drive on04:33
samAAMitzi: as the user right? so there is no problem04:33
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cyberfall_humbolt, fat32 lba04:33
quietbaxter_kylie, if you use the alternate install disk, and use the real installer it's very straightforward..04:33
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quietit should even be aut recognized if you reinstall.04:34
quietauto*04:34
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bertugolu listen ppl, i have 5.1 surround but i only get sound from the front right and front left, how can i fix it?04:34
SpCombbaxter_kylie: the kernel raid driver keeps a RAID superblock on the disk/partition that you use, and it stores info about the raid array in it. So a raid array created with md should work with any md04:34
bertugolu listen ppl, i have 5.1 surround but i only get sound from the front right and front left, how can i fix it?04:34
MitzisamAA, there is a problem, it only runs from root not from user04:34
TarnMastercyberfall_, I'm on a laptop, a nx6110 by compaq/HP04:34
Dr_willisbertugolu,  mess with the sliders in the mixers.. theres 2 that should  mirror the front to the rear speakers04:34
Xtremerdoes anyone know if the x server package is fixed and can be upgraded ? :)04:34
humboltcyberfall_: why LBA?04:34
cyberfall_so the drive is what came with the lappy04:34
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cyberfall_logic block address04:34
bertugolui know that04:34
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bertugolubut the other 3 dont work04:35
quietbaxter_kylie, this may be of some use too, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/41004:35
TarnMasterthe IDE controlelr is intel ich6 apparently04:35
samAAMitzi: I just asked you as the *user* cd to the dir and ./filename, and you said it worked, does that work? also what's the dir?04:35
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MitzisamAA, sorry, it doesn't work that way04:35
baxter_kylieSpComb: Excellent. So at that point I'd only need to have the raid config file and use a mkraid, right?04:35
cyberfall_TarnMaster,  well was going to say if the drive is to big linux will see it and try to by pass the bios04:35
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cyberfall_but it will miss up in the write to the drive04:36
humboltand again, will the gnome-volume-manager initiate fscks on my ext3 USB partition on mount?04:36
SpCombbaxter_kylie: you shouldn't even need the raid config file, although I think it does have some effect on detecting arrays on system startup04:36
Xtremeranyone knows ? :D04:36
cyberfall_just like windows will cause i trashed a 80 gig drive that way04:36
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muthanahow remove gaim04:36
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darkanyelhi04:36
TarnMastercyberfall_, I see, thus should I give the geometry to the kernel by the hda=xxx option?04:36
taylor___im 5 secs away from getting pissed at ubuntu04:36
SpCombbaxter_kylie: and I've always used mdadm, I don't know if the classic raid tools do it differently04:36
cyberfall_ubutom, tell file roller04:36
muthanahi04:36
darkanyelwhwew can i find themes for emerald??04:36
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Xtremercan i update the x server package ? :D is the bug fixed ? :D04:37
muthanaiam want remove gaim04:37
baxter_kyliespcomb & quiet: Thank you, sincerely! You've both been a great help.04:37
cyberfall_is the drive like a ata 100 and over 130gig and the lappy only handles ata 6604:37
cyberfall_if so then ur wasteing your time04:37
darkanyelwhwew can i find themes for emerald??04:37
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TheSheepok, I have an 1024x768 lcd monitor, but the X insists on using 1280x1024, even when I removed this resolution from xorg.conf -- the result is that I get a scrollable 1280x1024 screen in 1024x768. Any way to force X to 1024x768?04:37
taylor___anyone listening?04:37
taylor___grrrrrr04:37
TarnMasterno, the HD is only 40Gig.....04:38
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taylor___hello???04:38
cyberfall_then that not where the problem is04:38
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TarnMastercyberfall_, and moreover is its own drive... it should work04:38
Dr_willistaylor_,  so...04:38
cyberfall_one or to things the drive going bad or something didnt get installed right04:38
LookTJi have problem04:38
TheSheepLookTJ: try asking your question...04:38
LookTJhow come http://www.moparisthebest.org/smf/index.php won't work for me...it works for others04:39
Alakazam_i cut em long, i cut em wide, i cut em fat.04:39
cyberfall_try a drive tester program and see what goes from that04:39
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LookTJall other sites work04:39
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cyberfall_if the drive test fine then it a driver not right04:39
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bob31984hi, how do i get the kernel sources? I did apt-get install linux-image-386, but nothing turned up in the /usr/src dir...04:39
TheSheepLookTJ: what do you mean by 'work'?04:39
cyberfall_u may need to go to the maker of lappy site and see if there a driver for it04:39
docmuranyone know of any good C compilers for ubuntu edgy04:39
TheSheepLookTJ: and by 'not work'04:39
TarnMastercyberfall_, but why in doing hdparm -I /dev/hda I get a current number of sectors greater than the max number of sectors?04:39
jribdocmur: gcc?  install build-essential04:40
RedKriegdocmur, apt-get install build-essential04:40
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Xtremermaybe your isp blocks that site LookTJ04:40
Dr_willishttp://www.moparisthebest.org/smf/index.php works for me.....04:40
docmurI have both04:40
LookTJit doesn't show up...The server at www.moparisthebest.org is taking too long to respond.04:40
RedKriegjrib, beat me to the punch04:40
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cyberfall_TarnMaster,  gotz me04:40
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LookTJand other people has no problems getting on it04:40
RedKriegdocmur, how are you trying to use it?04:40
cyberfall_sound like it missed read the drive right04:40
TarnMastercyberfall_, but this isn't normal, isn't it?04:40
TheSheepLookTJ: looks like some routing problems04:41
Dr_willisLookTJ,  that dont sound like a Ubuntu issue.. try pinging the web site.04:41
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LookTJi did04:41
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not-a-botdoes anyone use x-chat-gnome and edgy here?04:41
cyberfall_Configuration:04:41
darkanyelwhwew can i find themes for emerald??04:41
cyberfall_        Logical         max     current04:41
cyberfall_        cylinders       16383   1638304:41
cyberfall_        heads           16      1604:41
cyberfall_        sectors/track   63      6304:41
cyberfall_that what mine shows04:41
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LookTJ!paste04:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:41
docmurI was compiling wine for source and apt-get build-dep wine was all good04:41
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not-a-botHow the heck do keep x-chat-gnome from opening the channellist every time I connect to s server?04:42
docmurthen apt-get --build source wine failed04:42
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TarnMasterleft column is identical for me cyberfall_04:42
Dr_willisLookTJ,  as a test , download and try a live cd like 'slax' and see if The live cd can get to that site.04:42
docmurit told me I didn't have a c compiler04:42
Xtremer!x server04:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:42
not-a-botmakes it freaking unusable for freenode and other servers with a lot of channels :S04:42
Dr_willisdocmur,  install build-essential yet?04:42
Xtremer!x-server04:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:42
LookTJok well brb04:42
cyberfall_!file roller04:42
TarnMasterbut right one shows a 17475 in the first row (sectors) and a 15 in the second (heads)04:42
ubotufile: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.16-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 100 kB04:42
segfaultXtremer, xserver-xorg04:42
Xtremerok :D04:42
docmuryes I have it04:43
Xtremer!xserver-xorg04:43
ubotuxserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB04:43
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linuxactivistcyberfall_, I think you were looking for file-roller04:43
linuxactivist!file-roller04:43
ubotufile-roller: an archive manager for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 635 kB, installed size 4648 kB04:43
Xtremersegfault u know about the bug of xserver-xorg ?04:43
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TarnMastercyberfall_, apparently this is a problem from the autoprobing.....04:43
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segfaultXtremer, i recal a bug put in an update a few weeks ago, is that to what u are referring04:44
RedKriegdocmur: what's the exact error message you get?  (just the one line please)04:44
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humboltThis one thing is not perfectly clear to me yet: If I have an external USB drive with an ext3 partition which gets mounted by gnome-volume-manager on hotplug, will this ext3 partition be fsck-ed after the so and so manyest mount? Or does that just apply to partitions which are mentioned in fstab?04:44
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Xtremeryeah segfault .. is that bug fixed ?04:44
bob31984How do I configure and compile the kernel myself? I can't find the sources04:44
segfaultXtremer, yeah i believe it was fixed the next day04:45
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docmurI will have to post it later I'm getting the kernel source right now04:45
Xtremerok then i can update the packege no ?04:45
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segfaultXtremer, it was a simple fix if u installed the pkg anyway, it just changed the path of something iirc04:45
RedKriegdocmur: no problem04:45
segfaultXtremer, yea04:45
trappisthumbolt: I've never seen removable media get auto-fscked, but then again I've never had a usb drive formatted ext304:45
humbolttrappist: so which FS do you use?04:46
trappisthumbolt: reiserfs on my hard drives, fat32 on most removable media04:46
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tyler_dopod 838 Pro VS Sony Ericsson P990i....... which one is better?dopod 838 Pro VS Sony Ericsson P990i....... which one is better?04:46
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docmurany one know the date of the full edgy release04:47
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Xtremer!x-server-xorg-core04:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x-server-xorg-core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
TheSheep!schedule04:48
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:48
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Sasuk3only 920 users?04:49
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Lunar_Lampis it possible to extend an ext3 partition? i currently have a hard drive like this: "windows>swap>ubuntu>ubuntuhome" - can i expand the ubuntu home partition to take over the windows partition if i format it? or will it cause problems because they're not next to each other?04:49
samAALunar_Lamp: are u using lvm?04:49
Lunar_LampsamAA - not sure - i did default install04:49
Lunar_Lamphow do i find out?04:49
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samAALunar_Lamp: df /home04:50
Lunar_LampFilesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on04:50
Lunar_Lamp/dev/hda3             43373228  39143680   2466900  95% /home04:50
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samAALunar_Lamp: and you want to extend /home?04:50
Lunar_LampsamAA - yeah04:51
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samAALunar_Lamp: you re not using LVM04:51
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marcus_Hi04:51
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Lunar_LampsamAA - is my only option to wipe windows and mount is a /home/media then?04:51
marcus_Ive just downloaded a .run file for my Ubuntu desktop04:51
TarnMastercyberfall_, I tried testdisk..... WTF means that CHS and LBA do not agree?04:51
marcus_How do i install it via the terminal?04:51
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Lunar_Lampmarcus_ "sh filename.run"04:52
burzumhow can i find out which nvidia driver version is currently installed?04:52
marcus_thanks04:52
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CroX!gateway04:52
THX-1138!testdisk is TestDisk data recovery - recover lost partitions and/or make non-booting disks bootable again http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk04:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:52
Alakazam_~~down here we smoke trees, then let the world see~~04:52
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humboltwhen gnome-volume-manager mounts my USB ext3/reiserfs/xfs partition, this is done with user root, so I can't write to it directly. Only if I create a dir for my user as root which is owned by him. Is there a way around that?04:53
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samAALunar_Lamp: ubuntu being /, I assume. hmm you can resize windows ... if you need it04:53
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THX-1138!testdisk04:53
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB04:53
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Lunar_LampsamAA - i don't need windows - haven't booted it in ages - and have vmware working just fine - so would rather just recover the space04:54
Unimatrix9hello there04:54
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j^2hey all04:54
Unimatrix9hi04:54
j^2i'm looking for net admins, are there are any around?04:54
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Xtremerhub net admins?04:54
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j^2corporate net admins04:55
samAALunar_Lamp: I don't know of another  way  execpt for using LVM04:55
Lunar_Lamphmm, ok04:55
Kuto2where do i get c header files:?04:55
Lunar_LampsamAA - i assume there's no way to convert to using lvm?04:55
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TarnMasterright, that testdisk:)04:55
jribKuto2: install build-essential04:55
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linuxactivistj^2, I work on a university network.04:55
Kuto2how do i do it?04:56
THX-1138TarnMaster - It worked really well for you? - Wish i had it a few eeks ago.04:56
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Unimatrix9how well does splashy work?04:56
jribKuto2: sudo aptitude install build-essential04:56
Unimatrix9is it easy to setup?04:56
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j^2linuxactivist: nice, i'm a net admin also, i've been requested to start up monitoring, i was thinking nagios, but they want web traffic to, do you have any suggestions?04:57
jribKuto2: or, you can use system > adminstration > synaptic if you want04:57
TarnMasterTHX-1138, I didn't try to recover data with....04:57
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TarnMasterI just looked at the disk04:57
samAALunar_Lamp: not that I know, you can always mount it like you said or wipe windows copy /home it, convert to LVM, copy back  extend ...04:57
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Unimatrix9any one here that has splashy working?04:58
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samAALunar_Lamp: depends on the sizes and usages04:58
TarnMasteras I said THX-1138, I got some problems which apparently bore down to a miconfigured disk geometry04:58
linuxactivistKuto2, if you need them for something else, just file up synaptic and search for header files.  Usually the -dev package for the software that you are looking for will solve the issue.04:58
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burzumhow can i find out which nvidia driver version is currently installed?04:58
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eSPete__i've just overwriten all the files in ~ with this command "mv /media/hda3/file.txt ~/*" and now all the files are gone.04:58
Kuto2so many header stuff04:58
THX-1138TarnMaster: did it seem to work okay? - files intact?04:58
TarnMasterTHX-1138, as I just look and didn't try to found partitions it didn't nothing bad....04:59
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linuxactivistj^2, nagios is nice... but complicated to set up.  I recommend getting one of the nagios books that are out there to help.  We have used netsaint (nagios's earlier brother) for a couple of years. It is not as feature packed, but it is easier to get up and running with.  For web traffic, I don't think you can beat webalizer.05:00
TarnMasterTHX-1138, i cannot guarantee what's going to happen if I did05:00
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j^2linuxactivist: nice thinks05:00
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JackDanielzi have a few questions, ubuntu installer cd 6.06 has a 1000hz kernel timer yes?05:00
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TarnMasterdoes anybody knows what thsi CHS and LBA don't agree stuff means?05:01
erUSULeSPete__: you told the system to do something and it has done it. Not too much that we can do about it... sorry to not be of much help... hope that you do not have loosed anything important05:02
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not-a-botDoes anyone know how to deactivate the channel-autolist in x-chat-gnome 0.13 in edgy? And where can I write a bugreport about it? The new channel-autolist causes x-chat-gnome 0.13 to freeze at 100% cpu for minutes when joining networks like freenode :-S05:02
JackDanielzanyone? does the new ubuntu 6.06 have a 1000hz kernel timer?05:03
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erUSULburzum: how did you intaled the driver, apt?05:03
linuxactivistj^2, if you want to spring some more stuff on them to impress the heck out of them, we use ipaudit (http://ipaudit.sourceforge.net/) to get a picture of what is happening at the network, port and protocl level - top talkers, listeners and so forth.  This is good for find out who or what is hogging bandwidth.05:03
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Kuto2how do i get c headers that matches my kernel?05:03
j^2linuxactivist: awesome thanks05:04
TarnMasterbbl05:04
eSPete__erUSUL, year i know, but is there no way to restore the filetable? the data is still there i know05:04
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erUSULJackDanielz: the instaler kernel has 25005:04
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josh_how do i get 3ddesktop to install properly?05:05
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josh_i cant find a tutroial for it.... a good one05:05
erUSULJackDanielz: the *instaled* kernel has 25005:05
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erUSULJackDanielz: do not know the livecd one (i guess it is the same)05:05
JackDanielzerUSUL: do u kno if any are 1000 for sure?05:06
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mike_sternhow can i run dhcp client on ubuntu?05:06
erUSULJackDanielz: any?05:06
Kuto2 is there smp support for intel dual core core duo processors?05:07
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JackDanielzerUSUL: well maybe the server install ?05:07
mjrKuto2, sure05:07
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diminthedamany chance to get some help in fixing removable cdrom drivers?05:07
Kuto2where?05:07
berentmike_stern : do u want to run dhcp server or client05:07
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Kuto2mjr, what kernel version do support it?05:08
erUSULJackDanielz: 100 HZ is a better choice for servers (as is disabling preemt) so i guess not05:08
burzumhow can i find out which nvidia driver version is currently installed?05:08
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mike_sternclient05:08
mjrKuto2, any should, just as long as smp is turned on05:08
burzumerUSUL, yes05:08
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burzumthere was an update some days ago05:08
erUSULburzum: use apt (apt-cache show packagenameofdriver)05:08
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tyler_anyone tried the new dopod 838 Pro? is it as buggy and hangs as often as its previous manyone tried the new dopod 838 Pro? is it as buggy and hangs as often as its previous models?odels?05:09
burzumbut id like to know if this update are the new beta drivers with support for some features that beryl is using05:09
burzumerUSUL, ok, thank you05:09
samAAmike_stern: use dhcp for an interface ....?05:09
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Kuto2mjr:  hmmm ok smp is turn in bios and i installed 2.6.15-smp stuff but i dont see it in grub when i boot pls tell me how05:09
tyler_anyone tried the new dopod 838 Pro? is it as buggy and hangs as often as its previous models?05:09
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mike_sternwhere?@!05:09
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wimpiesI want to install amarok-arts but it needs amarok 1.3.9 but I have 1.4.0 already ? Are there newer packages for this ?05:10
samAAmike_stern: gksu network-admin05:10
sbcDoes anyone have a link to some more visual presentation of all the goodies in EdgyEft besides what can be found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta ? I'm really looking for more screenshots and maybe some movies of the fancy 3d stuff?05:10
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linuxactivistj^2, then the one two punch is finished with rolling out MRTG (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) to show your bandwidth usage, peak times, and other statistics throughout the day.  It is more for just pretty graphics, but I believe there are plugins for Nagios.05:11
samAALunar_Lamp: there is unionfs if you are game05:11
Kuto2how do i know if smp is enabled?05:11
finalbetaCan't gnome make KDE apps look like gnome, in the same way KDE can make GNOME apps look like KDE aaps05:12
finalbetaapps05:12
Kuto2mjr: yo dude pls help05:12
segfaultKuto2, cat /proc/cpuinfo if u have multicore cpu and smp is enabled it will show more than 1 cpu there05:12
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ucordeswhere can i find the script to reconfigure vmware?05:13
erUSULKuto2: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | less' and see if you have two processors05:13
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fyrestrtrsbc: google for 'xgl video' for the fancy 3d stuff. The rest is just stock gnome, so you can peruse the gnome website.05:14
Unimatrix9try youtube for edgy eft05:14
sbcthanks05:14
Unimatrix9i got nice hits there , type edgy eft05:14
fyrestrtrsbc: there is not much in terms of eyecandy that's new in edgy. Most of the stuff can be had in dapper.05:14
Unimatrix9and not edgyeft05:14
Unimatrix9:)05:14
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Lunar_LampsamAA - what's unionfs?05:14
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Kuto2yes i have 205:15
THX-1138fyrestrtr - Is bluetooth and wifi any easier?05:15
Kuto2ok so i installed linux-i686-smp right05:15
fyrestrtrTHX-1138: depends squarely on your hardware.05:15
Kuto2now shouldnt grub put a ubuntu-linux-i686-SMP stuff in bootloader?05:16
kenthow come i get acced denied when I run:  sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward    ?05:16
Kuto2now shouldnt grub put a ubuntu-linux-i686-SMP stuff in bootloader?05:16
diminthedamhow can i update my cdrom driver?05:16
THX-1138fyrestrtr: Ok., and it is released on the 19th?05:16
hectorUbuhello... anyone could help me with a problem using a Java application?05:16
fyrestrtrTHX-1138: if it wasn't working in dapper, chances are, unless it has specifically worked in later kernels, it won't work in eft.05:16
fyrestrtrTHX-1138: that I don't know.05:16
segfaultKuto2, on ubuntu the 686 kernel has smp enabled there is no 686 without smp05:16
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THX-1138https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule Oct. 26,05:17
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vanhtu1987Hi, will anyone answer this question please: I want to install the NVidia binary 3D driver from their site, but it complains that my kernel does not match the one required and asked me to provide the kernel source for rebuilding. apt-get didn't show my current kernel though (2.6.15-27). Does that mean I have to download from kernel.org ?05:17
fyrestrtrhectorUbu: unless you tell us the problem, we can't guess what it is.05:17
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fyrestrtrvanhtu1987: no, it means you have to read the wiki :)05:17
fyrestrtr!nvidia > vanhtu198705:18
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baxter_kyliesegfault: is the 'generic' kernel that ships with edgy a 686 or 386?05:18
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vanhtu1987fyrestrtr: thanks, I'll come back in a while.05:18
segfaultbaxter_kylie, 38605:18
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constantine-xvianyone know how to boot an livecd off an usb key?05:19
baxter_kyliesegfault: so for amd64-smp users it's still beneficial to seek out a 686 kernel... Hmm. That synaptic message 'obseleted by Generic Kernel' is misleading.05:20
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hectorUbuI'm trying to run a Java application called Sunrise, it used to work with Dapper but now using Edgy and Sun-Java 1.5 it complains about not finding a library that is right inside the same folder05:20
alvaroarola05:20
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vanhtu1987fyrestrtr: Ah, maybe a little more information would help. I couldn't find the matching version of this kernel source: 2.6.15-2705:20
erUSULvanhtu1987: just 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'05:20
alvaroarola chicas05:21
segfaultbaxter_kylie, i dont use amd64 so i cant really confirm or deny that for u :)05:21
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erUSUL!es05:21
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:21
fyrestrtrhectorUbu: please ask in #ubuntu+1 for edgy stuff05:21
ferossconstantine-xvi: you should try DSL for that05:21
vanhtu1987erUSUL: linux headers that's it! Thank you.05:21
sc0tthey folks :>05:22
erUSULvanhtu1987: no problem05:22
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baxter_kyliesegfault: Ahh, thanks just the same, more or less just thinking aloud. I'm just going to assume as such.05:22
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Raul654is there a user-level equivalent to /etc/hosts?05:24
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Raul654so that a non-root user can define his own hostnames?05:24
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ifrozenhali05:25
erUSULRaul654: no, afaik05:25
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robertsI'm trying to compile libvisual-projectM and ./configure is giving me this error: "WARNING: *** No OpenGL found.       projectm plugin will not be built."05:26
fyrestrtrRaul654: no05:26
Raul654damn05:26
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Tokenbadok friend has ubuntu system....he shut it down...moved it...and restarted...now its not connecting to anything and comes up with a box at bootup about not being able to save sessions...any ideas?05:26
roberts"configure: error: conditional "HAVE_LIB_GL" was never defined."05:26
rockbadgerhi there... sound didn't work when i turned my computer on today... totem gives the error "could not establish connection with sound server" - help anyone?05:26
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segfaultrockbadger, sounds like esd isnt runnin05:26
fyrestrtrroberts: you probably want libgl1-mesa-dev05:27
rockbadgersegfault, how can i tell/fix? don't quite see why it would suddenly happen05:27
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segfaultrockbadger, ps -A | grep esd, if no ouput no esd running05:28
robertsfyrestrtr: I have that package installed, version 6.4.1-0ubuntu05:28
segfaultrockbadger, then to fix esd&05:28
robertsI even have libglu1-mesa-dev05:29
rockbadgeryup, no esd05:29
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fyrestrtrroberts: what about glitz?05:29
fyrestrtrroberts: look in the readme or install files to find out what it needs exactly05:29
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craigbass1976I can't apt-get install xchat.  Is there something more I'm supposed to be doing?05:30
fyrestrtr!universe > craigbass197605:30
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fyrestrtrcraigbass1976: see the message from the bot05:30
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diminthedammy liteon dvdrw reads dvds but not cds. could someone help?05:31
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rockbadgersegfault - how do i fix esd?05:31
fyrestrtrdiminthedam: audio cds or data cds?05:31
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segfaultrockbadger, to start esd run esd&05:32
rockbadgerah05:32
ardchoillediminthedam: Some of those don't have the capability to read CD's, I ran into a few DVD-R drives that don't read CD's. Are you sure your does?05:32
khaled_hosny does any one know how to get the src .deb of gfxmenu that is used in dapper CD ?05:32
robertsfyrestrtr: Installing glitz and it's dev packages didn't help.  How do I tell if direct rendering is enabled for my current setup?05:32
fyrestrtrroberts: glxinfo | grep direct05:32
robertsIt says yes05:33
fyrestrtrthen its enabled.05:33
Tokenbadok friend has ubuntu system....he shut it down...moved it...and restarted...now its not connecting to anything and comes up with a box at bootup about not being able to save sessions...any ideas?05:33
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robertsRight... so why would it complain about not having OpenGL?05:33
diminthedamardchoille: it did read cd a few days ago05:33
mtyhomehi05:33
ardchoillediminthedam: Oh, ok05:33
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TokenbadHe thinks its not getting the internal ip on the network...05:33
Hattori!wireless05:33
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:33
JackDanielzare there any linux distros which come with 1000hz kernel timer stock?05:33
fyrestrtrroberts: its missing some dev libs that it needs, find out what it wants by reading the install and/or readme files that came with the source tarball05:33
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robertsfyrestrtr: I've already checked and they were of no use.05:34
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mtyhomei was trying to boot xubuntu install from usb key... and can't figure out why debconf keeps searching for the cdrom instead of reading from mounted key05:34
fyrestrtrroberts: what is this thing anyway?05:34
Tokenbador anyone know how to renew internal ip in ubuntu?05:34
fyrestrtrTokenbad: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:34
trappistTokenbad: sudo dhclient05:35
fyrestrtrroberts: and where did you get it?05:35
samAAfyrestrtr: that would kill the network 1st05:35
robertsprojectM is a cross-platform reimplementation of the famous music visualizer called Milkdrop.  I've already installed projectM itself, but now I'm trying to install the libvisual plugin so I can use it with Amarok.05:35
mtyhomenobody can help??05:35
rockbadgersegfault - have run that but still getting error... output for  ps -A | grep esd is  "[1] +  Exit 2                  esd"05:35
robertsThe source tarball from the official website.  And yes, it does use libviusal 0.4.005:35
fyrestrtrroberts: where did you get projectM from? repos?05:35
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segfaultrockbadger, try just esd (without the &)05:36
samAAmtyhome: /etc/apt/sources.list05:36
robertsNope, from projectM's site.  UNfortunately it's not in the Ubuntu OR Debian repos yet, but it's pretty much the best visualizer by far.05:36
segfaultrockbadger, i always forget what spawns its own daemon and what doesnt05:36
robertshttp://xmms-projectm.sourceforge.net/05:36
robertsl05:36
fyrestrtrroberts: hrmm, I suspect you might need the source files for that also.05:36
robertsSource files for what?05:37
rockbadgersegfault - same problem, except no return for ps function now either05:37
mtyhomesamAA: i'm talking about sys install, not packages when you already have ubuntu installed05:37
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diminthedamardchoille: do you know how i can reload the drivers for it?05:37
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fyrestrtrroberts: projectm05:38
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Jaak_when i try to install a deb file, i get ask for administrative rights but he doesn't ask for a passwd05:38
Jaak_now i just don't work05:38
robertsfyrestrtr: I have the source tarball for both libprojectM, the main projectM files (installed fine), and libvisual-projectM which is the source for the libvisual plugin (failing at ./configure)05:39
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diminthedamdoes anyone know how i can re-install my cdrom drivers?05:39
fyrestrtrroberts: what is the exact line it fails on05:39
godzirraCan anyone tell me what I need to install to get the header filesl ike stdio.h etc for GCC?05:39
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fyrestrtrdiminthedam: cdroms don't have drivers -- they are built into the kernel.05:39
robertsDuring the ./configure process?05:39
fyrestrtrroberts: yes05:39
mtyhomeplease help05:39
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diminthedamfyrestrtr: but what if it has gone funny? not reading cds, but dvds are ok05:40
khaled_hosnygodzirra: I think it is "glibc-dev" ot so05:40
robertschecking whether to build lv_projectm plugin... yes==configure: WARNING: *** No OpenGL found.==projectm plugin will not be built.==configure: error: conditional "HAVE_LIB_GL" was never defined.==Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally.05:40
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robertsThe == denotes a line break05:40
godzirrakhaled_hosny: I dont have a glibc-dev05:40
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godzirraatleast not according to apt-cache search05:41
dave__anyone else have this problem? i try to run anything from the system/admin menu and it just hangs up, but running the same things from a command prompt works fine05:41
dave__any idea?05:41
Sasuk3http://vergil.chemistry.gatech.edu/resources/programming/c-tutorial/pointers.html05:41
khaled_hosnygodzirra: tray "glibc" or "libc" I'm not sure, I'm not a debian user ;)05:41
Tokenbadwhat is .dmrc dir?05:41
godzirraI'm using ubuntu :)05:42
Sasuk3z0mg really?05:42
Sasuk3XD05:42
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rockbadgersegfault - any idea why it's not working?05:42
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mtyhomei was trying to boot xubuntu install from usb key... and can't figure out why debconf keeps searching for the cdrom instead of reading from mounted key05:42
Sasuk3i'm using slax backtrack 1.005:42
fyrestrtrgodzirra: roberts hrmm, what options do you have with ./configure? You might just need to pass it the correct path.05:42
mtyhomeSasuk3: backtrack rocks05:42
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mtyhome:)05:42
Sasuk3inDe_eD05:42
Sasuk3:P05:43
segfaultrockbadger, not really, maybe a bigger sounds issue, try restart ing x or ur pc05:43
godzirrafyrestrtr: huh?05:43
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Hattorihow to see vurrent version of the kernel installed?05:43
diminthedamfyrestrtr: so then, how do fix a software fault with cdrom?05:43
Hattoriwhat was the command?05:43
Hattori*current05:43
fyrestrtrgodzirra: sorry, wrong person :)05:43
godzirraI just need to know how to get stdio.h and other headers installed05:43
godzirraahh ok05:43
ardchoilleHattori: uname -r05:43
rockbadgersegfault - i will try an older kernel (i'm on dapper lts, shouldn't be the problem but i'll try...)05:43
Hattorithx05:43
Sasuk3build-essential05:43
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fyrestrtrdiminthedam: there is no software fault. Is it refusing to read data CDs or audio CDs or both?05:43
robertsfyrestrtr: I'm not quite sure, the README and INSTALL files don't specify.  I had to install a bunch of *x11*-dev packages to install the libprojectM so I think I may just need some other *-dev packages, I just don't know which ones.05:43
ardchoilleHattori: You can see more stuff with uname -a05:44
Sasuk3godzirra apt-get install build-essential05:44
diminthedamfyrestrtr: its refusing to read any CDs but DVDs are ok! thats the problem05:44
godzirraSasuk3: thank you05:44
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Sasuk3godzirra build-essential comes with the libs,headers and the gcc compiler ;)05:44
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godzirraawesome :)05:45
godzirrawow.  its noon already.05:45
fyrestrtrroberts: well without downloading the thing and goign through it myself, I can't tell you much. Other than potshots at what to try, like x11proto-gl-dev05:45
samAAdave__: cmd prompt how, does sudo network-admin prompt for passwd / work what about gksu network-admin05:46
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diminthedamfyrestrtr: sorry for bugging u, but i am stuck. My drive reads DVDs but not CDs. Any ideas?05:47
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fyrestrtrdiminthedam: what is the last thing you did before it stopped working?05:47
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Jaak_how do install a deb file under su?05:48
diminthedamfyrestrtr: no idea. i noticed when trying to burn an ISO from nero linux05:48
gpledif i cat /proc/partitions i can see all the partitions.   is their a way i can see what the file types (ntfs, ext3, fat32, ...) are, with out mounting them?05:48
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Lunar_LampJaak_ - "dpkg -i FILE"05:49
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dave__user and groups, services,and network under the administration menu in gnome just freeze up when i open them, anyoen know why this would happen?05:49
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dave__it didnt do it yesterday, now today it is05:49
fyrestrtrgpled: fdisk -l /dev/somedevice05:50
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oskudegpled: sudo cfdisk05:50
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samAAdave__: wht happens with gksu ls05:51
Tokenbadmy friends inet has quit working in ubuntu...anyone know a way to fix it?05:52
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mluser-workHow do I tell aptitude to update an a .deb file which is in a local dir?05:52
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oskudemluser-work: you use "dpkg -i filename" for that...05:53
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theunruledhello, is there any text based file browser?05:53
mluser-workOh.. so I shouldnt use aptitude to do the updates either?05:53
theunruledSomething like Aptitude05:53
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MetaMorfoziShow can i start ubuntu costumization kit? i have isntalled it, but no "uck" command found05:53
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highnekoHow lock screen from terminal?05:54
gnomefreakmluser-work: a deb that you installed if not in the ubuntu repos will not be updated along with the rest05:54
scheurihi all05:54
ChaosFanhighneko: xlock05:54
ardchoilleIs mutt the best cli mua? Is there a better app for this?05:54
mluser-workgnomefreak: thank you :)05:54
ChaosFan!best05:54
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.05:54
gnomefreakmluser-work: yw05:54
oskudemluser-work: yes, but apt-get/aptitude is for using repos, they cant (afaik) install local debs, so you use dpkg for that05:54
ardchoilleChaosFan: Ah, yes, good point05:54
highnekobash: xlock: command not found05:54
mluser-workoskude: thanks :)05:54
ChaosFanhighneko: you have to install it05:54
highnekoNot possible without this?05:55
theunruledChaosFan: does xlock hybernate too?05:55
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diminthedamdoes anyone know of a cdrom diagnostic tool?05:55
ChaosFantheunruled: what do you mean by "hybernate"?05:55
oskudemluser-work: so if you install a package from a downloaded deb (and is not in ubuntu repos) _you_ have to update that package manually (if needed)05:55
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theunruledChaosFan: hybernate laptop05:55
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mluser-workoskude: got it :)05:55
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Iohhow do i run wow on ubuntu05:55
Ioh?05:55
ChaosFantheunruled: you mean suspend to disk? no05:55
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fyrestrtrtheunruled: midnight commander05:56
ChaosFanhighneko: i don't know another way05:56
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scheuriloh: there are many How-To's in forums...I thought there was one at http://www.ubuntuforums.org05:56
ChaosFanhighneko: but that doesn't mean that there isn't another one05:56
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highnekoChaosFan: Ok, thanks ;)05:57
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theunrul1ddamn internet06:00
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FnuggleMasterHey06:00
Khamaelhello FnuggleMaster06:00
FnuggleMasterIf I add a camera to my PC, I can import images from it, but if I wish to export TO it, how would I do that? Where is it mounted?06:00
FnuggleMasterKhamael: Hello!06:00
scheuritheunrul1d: dont blame the internet, its for porn only anyway...;)06:01
KhamaelFnuggleMaster: check /media06:01
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FnuggleMasterKhamael: sec..06:01
KhamaelFnuggleMaster: it might be mounted as a drive in /media. then it`s just a matter og dragndrop06:01
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=== NaMcO^ : vado a giocare a gunbound byee :)
Kuto2i installed linux-sources but i cant find /usr/src/linux-xxxxx folder to configure my own kernel can someone help pls06:03
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FnuggleMasterKhamael: It is _not_ in /media06:04
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KhamaelFnuggleMaster: /mnt?06:04
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FnuggleMasterKhamael: Ah, yes, sec!06:04
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steven43126hi06:05
FnuggleMasterKhamael: Nothing06:05
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KhamaelFnuggleMaster: what program do you use to import the images?06:05
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FnuggleMasterKhamael: The one Ubuntu uses as default, that import wiz06:06
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KhamaelFnuggleMaster: what does "df -h" say?06:06
FnuggleMasterKhamael: lemme just get my irssi screened to that PC, so I can do it whilst typing irc..06:06
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roadster3043hello everyone. I'm trying to download software updates in ubuntu 6.06LTS and I get the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1.8.0-0.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/liblavplay-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a06:07
diminthedami cant get my cdrom drive to read CDs. It reads DVDs ok though http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25734/06:07
SoH|TonyLsorry to bother you people but... what is this network all about? linux or more than that?06:07
steven43126whats the best way to read data in a script from a pipe so far im just using data=`cat` but when i pipe echo "test!..!" | ./myscript i get the following error -bash: !..!": event not found?06:07
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oskudeSoH|TonyL: what network ? freenode.org ?06:08
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SoH|TonyLyes06:08
SoH|TonyLwell i connected through freenode.net06:08
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FnuggleMasterKhamael: What do you want from df -h?06:09
eraccSoH|TonyL, it is about whatever the users make it about. Mostly OSS though.06:09
oskudeSoH|TonyL: read at http://freenode.net/ "Freenode provides discussion facilities for the Free and Open Source Software communities, for not-for-profit organizations and for related communities and organizations."06:09
FnuggleMasterKhamael: Ubuntu uses gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h tp start that wizard06:09
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SoH|TonyLthanks06:09
samAAsteven43126: missing echo @ the begining06:09
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KhamaelFnuggleMaster: df -h lists all your drives... see if one of them looks like your camera06:09
Khamaelsize or name06:10
FnuggleMasterKhamael: None06:10
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FnuggleMasterMy card is 512 mb, they are all 110 mb and  19 gb ( / )06:10
steven43126samAA, sorry i don't understand can you explain ?06:10
KhamaelFnuggleMaster: then I don`t know. my camera mounts as a drive.06:10
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SoH|TonyLoskude sounds like socialism =P06:11
SoH|TonyLthe definition of freenode06:11
FnuggleMasterKhamael: Right, thanks anyway!06:11
oskudeSoH|TonyL: dunno, dont know what that is...06:11
samAAsteven43126: echo "lsdkjlkd" | script06:11
SoH|TonyLok nvm06:11
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SoH|TonyLmay i ask a stupid but important question?06:12
steven43126samAA, yeh i got the bit the command im typing is: echo "test!..!" | myscript06:12
ZarephathHere is my error message: error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable error: could not execute pmount  why would it think hda is removable? How do I fix this?06:12
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eraccSoH|TonyL, there is a lot of socialistic idealism in OSS but this is not really the venue for that discussion. ;-)06:12
oskude!ask > SoH|TonyL06:12
steven43126samAA, it seems to work fine if i leave out . or ! seems to be interpreting them as having a special meaning ?06:12
SoH|TonyLok i just got adverted oskude =P sorr06:13
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harisundAnybody uses TV Tuner cards with Ubuntu?06:13
steven43126the script simply attempts to read the pipe and echo back the output06:13
SoH|TonyLwell06:13
FnuggleMasterI cannot find my camera drive on my Pc, and i wish to export images to it.. I can use that wizard to IMPORT, yet not EXPORT :/06:13
FnuggleMasterHow will I fix?06:13
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oskudeharisund: i had (still have 2 cards, but not installed atm), the trick is to load the right tuner06:14
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lillpelleharisund: yes, but I am not totally satisfied as it is here right now.06:14
harisundoskude, hmm.. ok .. so assuming it is recognized out of the box what do I do? Just plug the cable that goes to the TV into the card.. and then use what on Ubuntu?06:14
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harisundlillpelle, is your problem with the drivers? Or the quality?06:14
samAAsteven43126: try echo 'test!..!' | script06:14
magdahola adrian s06:14
steven43126FnuggleMaster, after you have connected the camera type dmesg at the prompt and see if it has been detected and which driver is been loaded06:15
lillpelleharisund: it is a sound problem when I want to record TV and then play. something gets corrupted...06:15
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Tokenbadmy friends inet has quit working in ubuntu...anyone know a way to fix it?06:15
oskudeharisund: mine was not plug-and-play (the tuner part, but composite/svideo in worked)... "tvtime" is quite nice tv watching tool06:15
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harisundlillpelle, ah ok .. but what about just watching and not recording?06:15
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SoH|TonyLi would like to know a good linux "mod" (?) for someone that is used to windows but still curious about linux. it should be a mod that can run MSN or a program that connects to MSN...06:15
harisundoskude, tvtime.. ok will check it out .. I don't have a TV here (but a cable connection yes) and I was thinking about using my Ubuntu box for watching TV.. so just wanted an opinion06:15
eraccSoH|TonyL, Kopete06:15
oskudeharisund: fyi: that was under hoary, so dapper may have better regocnition06:15
trappistSoH|TonyL: gaim06:15
lillpelleharisund: there are several programs for that. (tvtime, zapping, xawtv, mplayer, ...) I use mplayer right now.06:15
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SoH|TonyLand free ;)06:16
harisundoskude, ok cool.. lillpelle mplayer works too? Neat....06:16
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oskudeharisund: if you have a card that is supported, it works like a charm!06:16
deFryskgaim kopete and if you want a lookalike use amsn06:16
eraccSoH|TonyL, presuming you mean MSN instant messaging.06:16
lillpelleharisund: mplayer always works ;)06:16
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SoH|TonyLyes, IM =)06:16
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SoH|TonyLwell06:16
harisundthanks oskude and lillpelle ... I will do some more research on the cards.. btw, is there an ndiswrapper equivalent sort of for TVTuner cards?06:16
FnuggleMastersteven43126: [17187744.176000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 506:17
oskude!msn > SoH|TonyL06:17
deFryskSoH|TonyL, amsn is the lookalike of messenger06:17
eraccSoH|TonyL, I use Kopete to be available in MSNIM for my clients that are on Window$. Works fine.06:17
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deFryskgaim rules even on a kde desktop06:17
steven43126samAA, thanks it works thought it was a problem with the script not the input ! ta mate06:17
FnuggleMasterdeFrysk: It06:17
SoH|TonyLi dont think i could express myself in a way u could understand what i meant06:17
FnuggleMasterdeFrysk: Its behind on the MSN protocol06:17
eraccSoH|TonyL, I also use it with AIM and Jabber.06:17
FnuggleMasterdeFrysk: Will soon be upgraded though06:17
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deFryskon edgy eft06:18
samAAsteven43126: no worries06:18
boinkgaim works quite well with MSN06:18
steven43126FnuggleMaster, you would see something about a usb bock device if it was capable of been mounted as a removable drive06:18
oskudeharisund: this maybe of some help http://www.linux.com/howtos/BTTV/modprobe.shtml06:18
FnuggleMasterboink: Yes yes06:18
FnuggleMastersteven43126: in /dev/?06:18
Tokenbadplease anyone know why inet would quit working after a reboot?06:18
eraccOf the two, GAIM and Kopete, I prefer Kopete. I've used both.06:18
harisundawesome oskude! Thanks a ton.06:18
boinkon tv cards, you need to make sure the module is using the right tuner06:18
harisundok boink..06:18
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steven43126FnuggleMaster, check out the camera some have options you ca set as to wether it operates in camera mode or USB Drive mode06:19
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SoH|TonyLi dont have any linux yet. i need linux first. i just downloaded mandriva, suse and foresight. should i use one of them or another one? i need one that is free, ofc =)06:19
boinkthat's up to you. opensource is about free choice06:19
oskudeharisund: and maybe this wiki too http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cardlist.BTTV06:19
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eraccTokenbad, many many reasons why networking would stop working. Just saying it stopped makes diagnosis difficult.06:19
boinktry each one and see which one you like06:19
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steven43126if it's capable of been mounted as a drive, look in /var/log/syslog and you should see messages about the drive been recognized usually usb devices shouw up as sda sdb etc etc06:20
deFryskSoH|TonyL, try ubuntu06:20
Tokenbaderacc, well not sure how to find out any more info....he can't connect to anything06:20
FnuggleMastersteven43126: It does not06:20
deFryskSoH|TonyL, it rules06:20
eraccSoH|TonyL, this is the Ubuntu Linux distribution channel. What do you think we will say? :-p06:20
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SoH|TonyLmhm when i checked redhat.com, it said i have to pay for it. isnt opensource free?06:20
SoH|TonyL^^06:20
boinkredhat is commericial06:20
boinkfedora is the free redhat06:20
oskudeSoH|TonyL: the "free" version of redhat is called "fedora core"06:20
eraccThe "free" Rd Hat is Fedora06:20
deFryskopen source is free the services are not always free06:20
FnuggleMasterSoH|TonyL: I don't use Ubuntu, but I'll recommend it :)06:20
inmahola zorro06:20
SoH|TonyLis any of those i mentioned commercial aswell?06:21
Khamaelisn`t there an e17 install script somewhere?06:21
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boinkSuSe is commericial too06:21
FnuggleMasterSoH|TonyL: I use Gentoo, but for people that just want it to work, Ubuntu is the only way to go :)06:21
inmanoentiendo tu lengua06:21
boinkand Mandravia is commericial as well06:21
oskudeSoH|TonyL: suse has commercial and community versions, dunno about the others...06:21
SoH|TonyLwell i should have asked in a neutral channel ;x06:21
collinMy server will boot Ubuntu but not Ubuntu server? any ideas06:21
webbenUbuntu is rather nice.06:21
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steven43126FnuggleMaster, if it's not capable of operating as a drive  it will more than likely use some propertairy protocol, there are open source drivers out there that can communicate with these cameras but i have no experince with them06:21
inmatonto que no te entiendo06:21
SoH|TonyLok ill try ubuntu ^^06:21
deFryskmandriva would not be my first choice as any rpm based distro06:21
SoH|TonyLok06:21
boinkinma: no hablamos espanol aqui06:21
eraccSoH|TonyL, all the "commercial" releases I know about have OSS "free" counterparts. The fees one pays are usually for support and access to non-free software.06:21
ladydoor!es > inma06:21
webbenSoH|TonyL, compared to my epxeriences with Fedora/Slackware/Debian06:21
boink!tell iman about es06:22
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FnuggleMastersteven43126: Right. Thanks for trying06:22
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kromelSoH|TonyL, ubuntu helped me convert 4 people this past month from Windows.06:22
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roadster3043hello everyone. I'm trying to download software updates in ubuntu 6.06LTS and I get the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1.8.0-0.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/liblavplay-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a how can I correct this?06:22
inmaque idioma hablais06:22
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ladydoorinma: hay canal espaola:  #ubuntu06:22
steven43126FnuggleMaster, np out of curiosity what make / model is it ?06:22
boink!tell inma about es06:22
SoH|TonyLok kromel that helps alot in my choice ;)06:22
ladydoorinma: hablamos ingles.06:22
boinkaqui se hablar ingles06:22
webbenSoH|TonyL, Ubuntu is nice enough that I not only use it as a server, but also am considering moving my mom to it.06:22
kromellol06:22
FnuggleMastersteven43126: Canon Powershot A42006:23
inmay como que sabes muy bien espaol06:23
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boink!es06:23
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:23
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JackDanielzare there any linux distros which come with 1000hz kernel timer stock?06:23
SoH|TonyLhow big should the partition for ubuntulinux be? is 6.77gb enough?06:23
deFryskdid anyone see last the daily show with Jon Steward ? The computer used ran on Linux Gnome with the Gimp !!!06:23
deFrysklove that show :)06:23
boink6.77 gig is enuf06:23
SoH|TonyLthanks06:23
inmaporque no me contestas06:23
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boinkbut 6.77 gig is not very much06:23
magdahola quiere hablar alguien con migo06:23
Tokenbadwell could someone maybe help me figure out why inet would stop after reboot...or how should go about finding out why?06:23
collinMy computer won't load the ubuntu server cd06:24
boink!tell magda about es06:24
eraccSoH|TonyL, that is big enough for playing. I'd give it more once I got serious about using it and replacing Window$.06:24
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ijiiany have time to help a first timer on installing Ubuntu?06:24
macluvjayanybody have a date for edgy's release?06:24
inmasi yo hablo con tigo magda06:24
boink!schedule06:24
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:24
oskuderoadster3043: i think it could help if you do "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" on the console and pastebin the results (and commands)06:24
macluvjayi think the beta was the 28th06:24
ladydoorinma: #ubuntu-es es el canal para gente hispanohablante. Vayan all, por favor.06:24
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deFrysk macluvjay somehere between now and this month :)06:24
collinedgy release is oct 2606:24
SoH|TonyLadministrator_: is ubuntu easier to delete than windows? i have a 15gb partition for windows just cuz i have to format it when i want to delete windows =(06:24
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inmade donde ers06:24
deFryskah 2606:24
magdahola bik06:24
deFryskcool06:24
deFrysk!es06:25
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:25
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collinaccording to wikipedia06:25
inmayo hablo con tigo magda06:25
SoH|TonyLi didnt mean to ask "administrator" guy06:25
roadster3043oksude: thanks i'll try that06:25
SoH|TonyLthat question is for anyone06:25
inmatio de donde eres06:25
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eraccSoH|TonyL, every OS is "easy" to delete as long as one knows how. ;-)06:25
oskudeSoH|TonyL: you can delete any partition (regardless whats there) very easily...06:26
ijiiI just tried installing ubuntu and immediately i get errors such as:  [17179843.912000]  hc: timeout waiting for DMA06:26
deFryskSoH|TonyL, windows cannot see linux so you wil have to repartition06:26
SoH|TonyLhehe formatting =P06:26
magdaquiere hablar alguien con migo06:26
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ijiior hdc: drive not ready for command06:26
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oskudeSoH|TonyL: please rephrase...06:26
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SoH|TonyLwell once i had kurumin linux it started automaticly before windows =P06:26
collinI have a pentium 4 and i can't get it to boot off the ubuntu server cd, it boots off of the regular ubuntu cd just fine, can anyone help me out? please06:26
SoH|TonyLok ill rephrase06:26
eraccSoH|TonyL, if all else fails one can backup data and use the drive manufacturer's test tools that do a destructive write test of the drive.06:27
oskudeSoH|TonyL: of course, windows dont know how to boot linux, so linux has to do it (and booting windows)06:27
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Timmy|GDSYo, I got a serious problem06:27
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Sasuk3Command to see my GFX rendering?06:27
deFryskwindows tends to ignore any other os06:27
Timmy|GDSI changed my repos to edgy and did a apt-get dist-upgrade06:27
boinkof course06:27
Sasuk3command for see my gfx accel.. etc06:27
Sasuk3plz06:27
boink!gfk06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gfk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
ladydoorinma: Ud. est en un canal de ayuda, no de conversacin. por favor usan los mensajes privadas para conversar en temas otro que ayudo con la computadora.06:28
Sasuk3!gfx06:28
oskudeSasuk3: glxgears ?06:28
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
eraccSoH|TonyL, you can choose which OS to boot from a multi-boot window on startup of your PC. You can also set which one boots by default.06:28
SoH|TonyLi have a windows partition of 15gb, a normal one of 90gb and another of 6.77gb. i was thinking about installing it in the 6.77gb one because i dont really want to migrate. im just curious06:28
ladydoorinma: :-)06:28
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Sasuk3mm cool xD06:28
aftertafcollin: try booting another pc with it, or redownload and reburn it ...06:28
boinkthen 6.77 gig would be fine06:28
SoH|TonyLis that a good idea?06:28
SoH|TonyLokay thanks06:28
inmamaleny que haces06:28
collinit boot my other computer just fine06:28
qatsigood morning !...is anyone having troubble with the fglrx driver for ati ?06:28
boinkyou could see what ubuntu/gnome is all about06:28
collinand i also did the cd check06:28
Timmy|GDSX wont work, and im stuck at a terminal, which i dont mind, i like me some ascii ;), but irssi, vi, and links can only be so fun06:28
oskudeSoH|TonyL: looks ok06:28
inmasabes quien soy06:29
SoH|TonyLthanks folks =)06:29
ijiiwtf, ubuntu doesn't support any ABIT motherboards?06:29
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inmanagdalena contesta06:29
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collini redownloaded it as well and it still won't read the cd at boot06:29
kromelSoH|TonyL, I installed Ubuntu on a cheap box and made it a TeamSpeak server, and the Hard Drive was only 5 gig.06:29
ladydoorTimmy|GDS: there's a #ubuntu+1 channel for edgy support. but you might start out by trying sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core06:29
inmaporque no mantienes una conversacin con migo magda06:30
Timmy|GDSthanks ladydoor06:30
eraccHeh, "only 5 gig". Man I feel old. :-P06:30
ladydoorTimmy|GDS: np.06:30
SoH|TonyLcool even switzerland has a mirror for ubuntu ^^06:30
inmacontestame por favor06:30
qatsidoes anyone here knows if there are issues with the fglrx driver for ati right now ?06:30
warpzonehey guys, any recommedations for supported sound cards? hoping to do some audio recording06:30
boink!sound06:30
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems06:30
inmamira lo que te estoy escribiendo06:30
mamai have a printer problem....when i try to add my printer it  dectects it but when i try to get to the naxt page to get the manufavtor nothing shows up the only options i have is to install a driver or cancel....any suggestions06:31
boinkmost Creatives work well, but I'm not sure about the newer ones06:31
ijiihas anybody installed UBUNTU with an ABIT motherboard?06:31
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collinwhat is the difference between the boot sequence of ubuntu and ubuntu server that might be causing me problems06:31
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warpzoneboink: alright, thats what I've been looking at. thanks man06:31
inmahay algien espaol que quiera hablar con migo06:31
fuocoanyone got an ibook ?06:31
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SoH|TonyLis there something vital i need to know before insalling ubuntu?06:31
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tempest2k4anybody no whet this error is when loading xgl and compiz ? libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: Unable to determine the address of the message bus (try 'man dbus-launch' and 'man dbus-daemon' for help)06:31
inmamaleny que buscas06:31
warpzoneqatsi: fglrx IS an issue in itself. you'll find most Linux users wouldn't touch an ATi card with a ten-foot pole06:31
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fuocoSoH|TonyL: backup everything :)06:32
aftertafanyone know how to revert root navigation to normal mode?06:32
fuocoSoH|TonyL: and i mean everything :)06:32
inmacon quien estas chateando06:32
warpzoneSoH|TonyL: whatever you do, DONT use the included repartitioning tool :-P06:32
fuocoaftertaf: what's root navigation06:32
ladydooraftertaf: did you su/sudo -i to root, or log in?06:32
oskudeSoH|TonyL: know about partitioning and master boot record... ubuntu minimal needs 2 partitions, one for / and one for swap...06:32
SoH|TonyLthe partition is empty so there is nothing to backup =)06:32
ubuntu_e ale czemu nikt tu nie gada po polsku?06:32
fuocowarpzone: why not?06:32
SoH|TonyLaw 2 partitions?06:32
boink!tell ubuntu_ about pl06:32
inmacontestame por favor06:32
SoH|TonyLwhy that? =(06:33
aftertafin edgy, i open konqueror and i see hardly any folders06:33
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aftertafsame for gnomers too06:33
fuocoSoH|TonyL: you need at least 3 for ubuntu or any other linux06:33
boinknie mowimy po polsku tataj06:33
inmallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll06:33
oskudeSoH|TonyL: without dualboot installation would be even easier than windows...06:33
boink!pl06:33
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:33
SoH|TonyLthat is insane06:33
warpzonefuoco: if you are moving partitions around and have a windows partition, it overwrites your master file table06:33
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inmaporque cierras tanto06:33
zim_hi all i as this question every month is the hope somthing will be done and im not the only mad man out here who like the look of iFolders and would love to see it packaged06:33
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magdahola quiere hablar alguien con migo06:33
oskudefuoco: 3 partitions ?06:33
ladydoorcould somebody kick the troll? i've told him about private messages and about #ubuntu-es *in spanish* and he's still wanting to randomly chat in here?06:33
fuocoSoH|TonyL: no that's a very good thing - you will learn to appreciate that06:33
ladydoor*not a question06:33
collinon my laptop i lost my multimedia boot option for quickplay dvds when I dual booted with ubuntu. Is there any way to recover that?06:34
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fuocooskude: at least06:34
zim_is there any plans to package iFolders as a .deb06:34
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boink!op06:34
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!06:34
deFryskijii, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBMCXCwfD3c&mode=related&search= a show about installing ubuntu on a pc with an ABIT mobo06:34
inmayo quiero hablar con tigo06:34
usuarioMARI06:34
oskudefuoco: you dont _need_ 3 partitions, just one for / and one for swap!06:34
usuarioMARI06:34
usuarioMARI06:34
boinkI guess the ops are asleep06:34
inmamari quien eres06:34
AstralJavaHey guys, anyone using gaim in Edgy here?06:34
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inmahello06:34
deFryskAstralJava, yes06:34
Rezboink: what's up?06:34
collinon my laptop i lost my multimedia boot option for quickplay dvds when I dual booted with ubuntu. Is there any way to recover that?06:34
fuocooskude: you're right for i386, yeah. other's might need a seperate /boot06:34
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ladydoorangelo: there's a #ubuntu+1 channel for edgy support :-)06:34
warpzoneholy crap this is chaotic, see you guys in #kubuntu06:35
SoH|TonyLok so i need 2 partitions of how much GB? i dont want to lose all my video files in the main partition for that =p06:35
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usuarioY YO CON TIGO06:35
magdahello06:35
deFryskSoH|TonyL, partition wit be set up automaticly06:35
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aftertaf!es06:35
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:35
AstralJavadeFrysk: Have you accidentally detached tabs in it? If still yes, how can one re-attach them in the main window?06:35
collinon my laptop i lost my multimedia boot option for quickplay dvds when I dual booted with ubuntu. Is there any way to recover that?06:35
warpzoneSoH|TonyL: they're small partitions, just a few megs, don't worry you'll be fine06:35
ladydooraftertaf: they're trolls, possibly just one. they're making the same spanish spelling erros.06:35
ladydoor*errors06:35
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zim_look at this xgl video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws06:35
ubuntu_galupe dermato gulipa santyka06:35
silent_screamwhat is the command to mute gnomeradio from console????06:36
nalioth!tell ubuntu_ about pl06:36
aftertafhi nalioth  :)06:36
naliothhowdy aftertaf06:36
deFryskAstralJava, nope06:36
Intangirwhats the command to get the IP of PCs on the network from their windows networking computer name?06:36
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SoH|TonyLwarpzone then ill change the 6.77gb partition to a 6gb and a 0.77gb. is that good?06:36
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Sasuk3Intagir netstat06:36
aftertafnalioth: you know about the new root view in edgy?06:36
usuarioME LLAMO MARI06:36
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zim_has anyone in here looked at ifolders at all06:37
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Intangirhow do i do it with netstat?06:37
Sasuk3net users06:37
Sasuk3net view06:37
Sasuk3Ips' users and conections stats06:37
naliothaftertaf: ask in #ubuntu+106:37
aftertafi have :)06:37
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zim_is that to me06:37
inmaquien eres06:37
deFryskAstralJava, try preferences > conversations and check the TAB options06:37
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fuocoanyone got an ibook ?06:38
magdahola hay algun espapl guapo06:38
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sdajust a quickie: anyone know how good ubuntu's support for 64bit is?06:38
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nalioth!es06:38
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:38
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naliothfuoco: lots of us do06:38
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zim_aftertaf have you looked at ifolders06:38
inmahay algien espaola fea llamada magdalena06:38
boinksda: depends on what you want to do06:38
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ladydoornalioth: could you do inma, too? i've told him about #ubuntu-es, using spanish, and have also told him about private messages for offtopic stuff (also in spanish)...06:38
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SoH|TonyLif ubuntu needs 2 partitions, then ill change the 6.77gb partition to a 6gb and a 0.77gb. is that good?06:38
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deFryskspanish troll spanish trolll06:39
aftertafifolders? NOPE06:39
sdaboink: I want to set up ubuntu on my stationary computer as desktop06:39
Tokenbadwell could someone maybe help me figure out why inet would stop after reboot...or how should go about finding out why?06:39
Intangirsweet, thanks that works06:39
oskudeSoH|TonyL: sounds very good06:39
ladydoorSeveas: thank you.06:39
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aftertafoops06:39
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naliothladydoor: ?06:39
IntangirSasuk3: thx06:39
SoH|TonyLok thanks =)06:39
SeveasdeFrysk, frisian troll frisian troll frisian troll06:39
deFrysklol Seveas06:39
boinksda: then there are a few things which still don't have 64 support06:39
zim_anyone who has 2 min look at this http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page06:39
roadster3043the ones speaking in spanish aren't talking about ubuntu so I think you can take them out06:39
ladydoornalioth: just somebody who kept being offtopic, in spanish, and just calling out and pestering random people. *shrug.*06:39
sdahow does ubuntu cope with that? 32bit-emulation or such>06:39
boinksadly, the whole world hasn't yet gone to 64 bit :/06:39
boink32 chroots, yes06:39
sdathat is a sad thing!06:39
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naliothladydoor: read your channel notices06:40
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warpzoneif you're using 64, dont expect much in the way of media codecs06:40
boinklike flash doesn't have 64 bit support06:40
warpzoneand by much I mean anything06:40
n3stormhi everyone06:40
zim_then tell me why ubuntu i am the only one who seem to think they are the mutts nutts06:40
ladydoornalioth: ok.06:40
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Intangirwhen i used 64bit linux i had to isntall 32bit version of mplayer, with 32bit codecs06:40
SoH|TonyLok so ill do the partitioning as soon as ubuntu is downloaded06:40
zim_sorry mixed up boxes06:40
Intangirit plays fine06:40
RopechoborraHi.. i got a problem... when i do /dns <a specific host> it gives me a IP number.. but its not the right ip number... (it happends just for me...) any ideas?06:41
sdaboink: will installing e.g. firefox in 32 bit solve that? and is that even possible?06:41
ladydoornalioth: oh. lol. i'm sorry!06:41
xstHow do I make k3b accept wma files for burning?06:41
boinkgood to hear that, Intangir06:41
boinksda: sure, if you're up to that06:41
warpzoneSoH|TonyL: it'll do the partitioning itself, the defautlts are fine unless you want a lot of Swap or something06:41
boinkthe 64-bit for the server is very good06:41
zim_as i was saying anyone in here with 2 min to spair have a look at http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page06:41
fuoconalioth: i have this problem sometimes, that after some time, or maybe after suspending a few times - the sound becomes skippy06:41
SoH|TonyLif i knew what swaps were ^^06:41
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oskudezim_: and then ?06:41
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zim_why is there no .deb06:42
naliothfuoco: suspend doesn't work well with lots of portables06:42
sdaas long as it doesn't cause me enormeus headaches to setup simple things such as video-codecs, I'm happy with it!06:42
zim_it been opensource for about 6 months now06:42
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oskudezim_: how should i know ? ask the ifolder people why they dont have any deb...06:42
roadster3043http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25735/plain/06:42
sdabut if it's really buggy and complicated I won't go with 64bit - just settle with 32bit then06:42
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mluser-workCould someone recomend a howto on setting up a vpn into my home ubuntu server?06:42
ladydoor!vpn06:42
Seveaszim_, bcause no one cared enough06:42
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD06:42
naliothsda: stick with the x86 version06:42
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warpzoneSoh|TonyL: think of it as virtual RAM. but anyways, don't worry about partitioning the first time around, the defualts are great. I havent had a reason to change em06:42
aftertafzim_: whats with ifolders?06:43
mluser-work!ipsec06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipsec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
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boink!pptp06:43
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SoH|TonyLok thanks =)06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
sdanalioth: it just seems such a waste when I DO have a 64bit cpu, doesn't it :)?06:43
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zim_rsync on steroids06:43
Tokenbadcould someone maybe help me figure out why inet would stop after reboot...or how should go about finding out why?06:43
oskudeSoH|TonyL: windows has a "swap" file too... linux just has an own partition for that...06:43
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SoH|TonyLok06:43
fuoconalioth: it works well, just the sound is skippy06:43
lupine_85linux can use swap files as well, but it's a bit pointless06:44
warpzonesda: I wouldnt touch a 64bit anything unless it was a mac, PCs just are good with it yet06:44
lupine_85the only thing I never bothered getting working in 64 bit was flash06:44
zim_you can have any folder on any platform sync up06:44
Sasuk3http://sourceforge.net/projects/lamp306:44
lupine_85obscure binary-only stuff is the only thing not properly working yet06:44
oskudeTokenbad: start could be to look what "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" says06:45
sdayou have any idea of a timescope for these minor elements of irritation being fixed?06:45
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oskudeSasuk3: whats that ?06:45
Tokenbadoskude, did that06:46
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Sasuk3Is my project06:46
macluvjayI'm looking at the novell site, but maybe you can give me more info06:46
zim_lets say my home folder at work with my home folder at home and my windows laptop mydoc folder all sync automaticaly06:46
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Sasuk3oskude is Mp3 Player for linux... based on Winamp skinneable..06:46
ijiianybody know why i'm having problems installing ubuntu? i get errors such as ---> hdc: timeout waiting for DMA and hdc: drive not ready for command06:46
Sasuk3oskude i make cuz i dont like the gtk+1 used on xmms..06:46
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SoH|TonyLand maybe a totally out-of-topic question: what textfont is used in a windows bluescreen?06:46
oskudeSasuk3: re-invent the wheel ?06:46
oskudeSasuk3: theres xmms2 coming up...06:46
ijiiam I having hardware issues with the motherboard? maybe the hard drive?06:46
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macluvjayit's a backup solution?06:47
macluvjaya backup solution?06:47
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Sasuk3oskude yes.. but i dont know i want to make a Media Player for X11 with nice gfx06:47
keAnyone running Edgy Eft? How is it?06:47
Sasuk3:_P06:47
oskudeSoH|TonyL: lol, thats a good question :)06:47
zim_another kewl use i have a house in london and in the country my music can be synced in both all automaticaly06:47
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zim_it will also handle Versioning06:48
roadster3043http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25735/plain/06:48
Seveaszim_, could you please cut down on the offtopicness, this is not an ifolder channel but an ubuntu support channel06:48
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Gilnimis there something like a speedmanager for ubuntu06:49
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SeveasGilnim, depends on what you mean with speedmanager06:49
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davvs:O06:50
zim_ok Seveas i will just trash my ubuntu server and install fedora so i can have ifolders ty06:50
MikeyMikeiter,06:50
deFryskzim_, good for you06:50
Gilnimwith speedmanger i mean something that shows me the in- and outgoing traffic06:50
zim_i think not06:50
diminthedamhow do i run kernel diagnostics?06:50
SeveasGilnim, bwm does that06:50
Seveasdiminthedam, 'kernel diagnostics'?06:50
Gilnimthanks06:50
deFryskzim_, use alien to convert rpms to .debs06:50
oskuderoadster3043: and wheres the problem ?06:50
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zim_have tried06:51
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diminthedamSeveas: trying to pinpoint a problem i am having.06:51
egmhola como te llamas06:51
zim_got closer to making it work from source06:51
Seveas!es06:51
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:51
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dave__need some help ..when i boot up gdm works fine, but for some reason when i log out, the screen just goes blank06:51
deFryskzim_, or compile from source and use checkinstall06:51
aftertafnalioth: for info.... file called /.hidden06:51
Seveasdiminthedam, what's the problem? (best kernel diagnostic is just askin in here ;))06:52
zim_but not an uber geek06:52
ijiianybody know why i'm having problems installing ubuntu? i get errors such as ---> hdc: timeout waiting for DMA and hdc: drive not ready for command06:52
aftertafmakes them all hidden06:52
ijiiam I having hardware issues with the motherboard? maybe the hard drive?06:52
dave__i can hear it, and i can still log in, but the screen is just blank06:52
dave__anyone have any idea?06:52
zim_got closer to making it work from source06:52
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deFryskzim_, then do that06:52
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diminthedamSeveas: i tried and tried! ok.. my cdrom does not read CDs anymore. it reads DVDs ok..happened a couple of days ago. cant explain06:52
naliothegm: inglez aqui, por favor06:52
zim_as i said did not quite get there06:52
zim_will keep trying06:52
pooh_beawrI'm a pretty much a newb, how do I execute a .pl file?06:52
deFryskzim_, istall auto-apt and checkinstall06:52
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Seveasdiminthedam, the dmesg command and the files in /var/log might help you there06:53
Seveaspooh_beawr, perl foo.pl06:53
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deFryskzim and look in the wiki for a howto06:53
diminthedamSeveas: yeah, the say cd rom failed to load06:53
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ardchoilleWhere can I go to subscribe to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter?06:53
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pooh_beawrSeveas, simple... thanks :)06:53
zim_did that for some reson (probably me doing somthing stupid) it failed06:53
diminthedamSeveas: and they load ok when its a DVD06:53
ardchoille!uwn06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uwn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:54
roadster3043oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25735/  seems to be I think a gpg key at line 42, and packages got kept back at lines 48 and 4906:54
ardchoilleFound it :)06:54
zim_will be trying some more was just saying that it would be great if at some point i could "apt-get install ifolder-server"06:54
deFryskzim_, install the .dev files of http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Download#Required_Packages make sure to do that06:54
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deFryskzim_, and use synaptic for those06:55
zim_ty06:55
AstralJavadeFrysk: Thanks for the suggestion, but it's already checked.06:55
zim_will06:55
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zim_have you installed them06:55
deFryskAstralJava, my bad06:55
oskuderoadster3043: well, that repo needing gpg is not ubuntu.com repo... and the things kept back, are propably left back with a reason...06:55
deFryskzim nope06:55
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Drac|LaptopI tried to upload some music onto my USB stick and corrupted the data. Upon trying to remove the directory of corrupted data and its contents, I somehow managed to make my USB stick read-only. Is there a way to fix it?06:56
zim_what do you think of them06:56
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oskuderoadster3043: you could try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" but i wouldt do that, with those repos...06:56
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deFryskZibby,  the package is not supported by ubuntu and I am just trying to get you thru the basics06:56
deFryskzim_, I mean06:56
ladydoorok, so when applying a patch to some sourcecode, a) do i need to bunzip2 the patch first, and b) do i apply it within the gunzipped dir, or to the gzipped source?06:56
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zim_kewl06:57
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roadster3043oskude: I see.  and could that be the cause of this error too http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25737/06:57
dabugashi06:57
deFryskzim_, just try it and suggest the package to the developers of ubuntu06:57
dabugasis there a way to convert avis to mpegs?06:57
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deFryskzim maybe it wil be featured soon06:57
deFryskdabugas, yes06:57
zim_have done about 4 months ago06:57
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deFryskdabugas, dvd_mpegs ?06:58
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diminthedamSeveas: u see. no one wants to deal with it! strange one though06:58
andreoanybody expert of alsa drivers?06:58
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dabugasdeFrysk, this doesn't seem to be a package...06:58
oskuderoadster3043: yup, could be that packages is tried to install from non ubuntu.com source... do "sudo apt-get clean" and then the last command again, then you should see from where it gets downloaded, if its not for ...ubuntu.com, its not supported here...06:59
deFryskdabugas, the best way to do it is this way : http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=11770906:59
zim_i am very supprised that i am the only one who is so exited by the idea of them06:59
andreoor anybody knows of a channel somewhere about alsa?06:59
dabugasdeFrysk, thanks i'll look it up :)06:59
deFryskdabugas,  its a gentoo doc but it works flawlessly06:59
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deFryskdabugas, also : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_DVD:Filesystem07:00
deFryskdabugas, just apt-get the suggested packages07:00
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deFryskthey are all in the repos07:00
andreoI need to speak with some alsa developer...07:00
deFryskalsa developer ?07:01
andreosomeone who knows alsa driver very well07:01
savvasthis is a bit of a weird question, but can someone tell me if "~/o" used for anything in linux? I saw it somewhere but can't remember where :\07:01
n3stormis there a way to have gnome-splash fullscreen?07:01
richardrdoes anyone have problems with quanta using about 100% of the CPU while running?07:01
oskudeandreo: you could try #alsa07:01
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kitchesavaas: it's for formating think it's for LaTex07:01
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deFryskandreo, http://www.alsa-project.org/ vheck here07:01
Seveasn3storm, sure -- create a fullscreen version of it07:02
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dabugasdeFrysk, thanks07:02
n3stormSeveas, but it has to have some parameter somewhere to resize07:02
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n3stormcause it appears from coordinate 0,0 but not resized07:02
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n3stormmaybe gconf?07:03
robertsIs there an effort to try and support more hardware components on MacBook (Pros) on Edgy Eft out of the box, such as speakers, iSight camera, keyboard backlight, and certain models of the Atheros Wifi cards?07:03
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savvasok kitche, but i think it was somewhere in perl, there's a big chance i'm wrong though07:03
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boink!upstart07:03
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:03
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boinkisn't upstart the new way that ubuntu will boot up?07:04
boinkfrom edgy on?07:04
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n3stormgconf has nothing07:05
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roadster3043oskude: I commented out the lines that where causing the gpg error and so far so good.  thanks for your help07:05
ijiianybody know why i'm having problems installing ubuntu? i get errors such as ---> hdc: timeout waiting for DMA and hdc: drive not ready for command07:05
ijiiam I having hardware issues with the motherboard? maybe the hard drive?07:05
likewhoa54ijii: might be the hd07:05
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AstralJavadeFrysk: Apparently you can drag 'n' drop tabs between windows, but I found it impossible to re-attach that last tab from a window so that the base window would be destroyed (in lack of better terms). Not sure if it's possible, not sure if this is intended behaviour at all but somehow two tabs got detached without me knowingly doing it.07:06
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AstralJavadeFrysk: Think I should file a bug?07:06
oskudeijii: cdrom/hd maybe not supporting dma (had that on an old pc too) theres a way around that, i just forgot atm...07:06
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oskudeijii: does that come when you boot the dapper desktop cd ?07:07
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ijiiyes07:07
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zv_odd_how do i go about editing my config files in buntu?07:07
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oskudeijii: sec, ill google the boot flag to (hopefully) solve that07:07
ijiii also get buffer I/O error on device hdc as well07:08
zv_odd_or do i not know how to use chown?07:08
z3r0xchecking for GNOME... configure: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries <-- which package has those libraries?07:08
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AstralJavazv_odd_: You need to sudo them. Like, 'sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf'.07:08
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AstralJavazv_odd_: Of course replace vim with the editor-of-choice.07:08
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oskudeijii: try with boot option "ide=nodma" (without the "")07:08
AstralJavazv_odd_: Thus no need for chowning anything.07:09
ijiiboot option? where07:09
zv_odd_but i cant use vim!07:09
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zv_odd_i stop using linux for 3 months and i cant rember how to do nething!07:09
CromagDKthen nano07:09
kitchezv_odd_: you can use nano pico any of those other ones07:09
AstralJavazv_odd_: I thought of that, and said you can replace it with any editor you like to use, like 'gedit' or 'nano'.07:09
ijiiis that an option to be set in the BIOS?07:09
MikeyMikeare there any cli torrent clients?07:09
ijiii mean CMOS07:09
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oskudeijii: you should have a option "boot options" (or something like that) on the bottom of the screen (some F-key) and add that "ide=nodma" to the end of that line what see then07:10
zv_odd_why cant i edit thing with the nice gui :/07:10
oskudeijii: no, on the install cd boot menu07:10
CromagDKgedit07:10
CromagDKhas gui07:10
AstralJavazv_odd_: gedit is a GUI editor.07:10
LukeMikeyMike: i think there is btorrent or something like that already installed07:10
ijiiok thanks, i forgot about that, i'll check it out07:10
kitchezv_odd_: you can you just have to gksudo07:10
EddyDeanHello everyone, I have installed the NVIDIA drivers for my graphic card today, and everything seemed to work well, but now I rebooted and it says I'm unable to load the graphic environment (X server). I am only able to use the CLI now. Trying to run GDM (GNOME) fails. Is there anything I can do except for reinstalling Ubuntu (Again...)07:10
AstralJavaCromagDK: Are we accidentally syncronized? ;907:10
zv_odd_i want to do this form my Desktop not through the console07:10
AstralJava;)07:10
MikeyMikeLuke,  that works from the command line? could i effectively start a torrent from ssh using that?07:10
CromagDKAstralJava: sorry :(07:10
CromagDKmy bad ;)07:10
AstralJavaCromagDK: Not a problem, just thought it was too funny. :)07:11
CromagDKhehe07:11
CromagDKye07:11
EddyDeanAnyone?07:11
CromagDKzv_odd_: try write gksudo gedit file07:11
CromagDKit will open a gedit window for you07:11
kitcheEddyDean: it's probably not loading the nvidia module try modprobe nvidia then startx07:11
EddyDeanMeh... I'll just reinstall... Not much data on there anyway...07:11
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zv_odd_wat i dont understande is that when i got 'sudo chown o+rw sources.list' it says o is an inviliad user07:11
MikeyMikecan anyone tell me about torenting07:11
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oskudeMikeyMike: yes, google ;)07:12
kitchezv_odd_: chown changes user chmod is probably what you wanted07:12
MikeyMikeahaha07:12
MikeyMikertorrent07:12
lamegobecause you are trying to set the owner to "o+rw"07:12
LukeMikeyMike: yea its origionally a command line ap07:12
Dr_williszv_odd_,  ya sure you dont want chmod. :P07:12
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kitchezv_odd_: chown means change owner07:12
MikeyMikeLuke,  awesome.07:12
zv_odd_SHHH i am NOT STONED!07:12
LukeMikeyMike: a lot of bit torrent clients have non-x backends07:12
AstralJavaEddyDean: In console, you can go thru X configuration by issuing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', then look for incorrect setups, fix them and after you're finished try again.07:12
MikeyMikeLuke,  i want to install one on a remote box via ssh07:12
MikeyMikeand start a download for my friend07:12
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LukeMikeyMike: ok07:14
ToHellWithGAcould somebody please help me setup a terminal-based solution that will allow me to stream music files on my computer to a client on another computer after converting to a low bitrate mp3 or ogg?07:14
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oskudeToHellWithGA: i think there are plenty howtos for that on the net...07:14
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ToHellWithGAoskude: i've not yet found an easy one07:15
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oskudeToHellWithGA: define easy ?07:16
deFrysknot hard07:16
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ToHellWithGAeasy as in an example configuration file and an example terminal command to get it going07:16
oskudeToHellWithGA: and that has nothing to do with ubuntu support... why not ask in shoutcast chat or such ?07:17
ToHellWithGAstarting from man pages is way too tricky.  i'd rather edit something that's already written than write my own configuration file07:17
ToHellWithGAoskude: because i'm doing it on ubuntu.  if i were running windows i'd know how to use shoutcast for that07:17
GastenHello. When using one of the update-mangers (apt-get update/upgrade, aptutude update/upgrade, update-notifier, etc), does it save both the old package--and the new version? or can I sleep calm, knowing that my PC isn't drowning in unused packages?07:17
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oskudeToHellWithGA: ok, so everyone who does whatever under ubuntu, should be supported here ? :/07:17
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kitcheGasten: it uninstalls the old package if you install a newer version07:18
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Gastenkitche: Thanks.07:18
robertsIs there an effort to try and support more hardware components on MacBook (Pros) on Edgy Eft out of the box, such as speakers, iSight camera, keyboard backlight, and certain models of the Atheros Wifi cards?07:18
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kishorehelp neede07:19
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kitche!ask07:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:19
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ToHellWithGAoskude: i think that's the idea.07:19
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kishorei had recently formatted my windows drives and again installed.now i am unable to mount the drives back in linux07:19
cherubielkishore: errors?07:20
kitchekishore: did you format the partitions?07:20
ToHellWithGAthis is a general assistance channel last time i checked.  if you, oskude, don't want to assist me you don't have to assist me.  if anybody would help me setup icecast and mplayer properly i'd appreciate it.07:20
oskudeToHellWithGA: yeah, right...07:20
kishoreerror : the folder contents could not be displayed07:20
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oskudeToHellWithGA: good luck!07:20
kishorewhen treid to open07:20
kishorei had formatted windows partitions07:21
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kishoretat too only.. windows drive07:21
DarkWizzardguys07:21
DarkWizzardhello all07:21
DarkWizzardhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25742/07:21
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kishorecherubiel, You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda6".07:21
rodneykWhen I load Ubuntu Dapper its telling me my copy isnt genuine then displays a picture of a fat black man eating fried chicken.07:21
kishoretat was the error when tried to open07:22
oskudeDarkWizzard: whats that ?07:22
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DarkWizzardmy problem07:22
oskudeToHellWithGA: have you read these ? http://icecast.org/docs.php07:22
ToHellWithGAyes, oskude.  i have no idea what most parameters mean07:22
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kishoredid any one get my problem.. :((07:23
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oskudeToHellWithGA: thats why there are manuals...07:23
ToHellWithGAbecause i don't know what to do with the parameters to be set in the configuration file and i don't see an example configuration file, i'm stuck07:23
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ToHellWithGAthe man page for icecast says "check out the docs"07:23
kishoreubotu, mount07:24
oskudeToHellWithGA: is that not a config file here ? http://www.6809.org.uk/media/ices2-howto.shtml07:24
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks07:24
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sheepy1988i need help with hardware, anyone ok to help me?07:24
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oskudeDarkWizzard: you star apache2 with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"07:24
ardchoillesheepy1988: What kind of hardware? HD's? Video?07:24
kaurusing dapper and my laptops fan keeps running all the time. Proccessor(s) are not loaded. What could be the problem?07:24
sheepy1988HDDs07:24
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ardchoillesheepy1988: Aks your question07:24
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DarkWizzardits the same with all daemons07:24
DarkWizzardtor doesn't work eighter07:25
sheepy1988i bought a new hard drive for my computer today, installed it as a slave with jumper pins in the correct position and for some reason windows and ubuntu arent picking it up, but the BIOS is07:25
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Kuto2i know its stupid but from xubuntu how do i get a complete ubuntu installation?07:25
oskudeDarkWizzard: normally you start "daemons" from there... dunno whats tor07:25
kaurusing dapper and my laptops fan keeps running all the time. Proccessor(s) are not loaded. What could be the problem?07:25
kitcheoskude: you can also use apachectl to start apache just so you know07:25
hondjeKuto2: If you mean to install the gnome stuff, in a terminal run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'07:25
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DarkWizzardoskude not always07:25
ardchoillesheepy1988: You have to edit /etc/fstab so that Ubuntu can mount it on startup07:25
kishoreubotu, oracle07:25
ubotuIf you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html07:25
DarkWizzardbut same thing If I start it from there too07:26
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sheepy1988any ideas about windows?07:26
ToHellWithGAoskude: it's a manual on what each parameter in the config file does.  it is not a config file, but rather a mess of independent lines07:26
Kuto2thanks07:26
sheepy1988i want windows to recognise it more so than ubuntu07:26
oskudeDarkWizzard: do the command i said, and pastebin me a problem07:26
ijiii tried the ide=nodma line, but i still have the [17179704.65600]  Buffer I/O error on device hdc, ligical block 178792 errors :(07:26
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DarkWizzardman07:26
DarkWizzardits the same07:26
DarkWizzard!07:26
ToHellWithGAi have to get to class soon, but i'll be back later scratching my head and trying to figure this problem out07:26
ToHellWithGAthanks for the links, oskude07:26
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swashbucklinstevI'm on 6.06LTS Dapper AMD64 and /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh complains that no acceptable C compiler can be found. How can I fix this?07:26
kitcheijii: is that for all the discs you use?07:27
DarkWizzardhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25743/07:27
oskudeToHellWithGA: i think you just havent searched enough... there are so many icecast servers...07:27
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ardchoillesheepy1988: No clue, I haven't used Windows in years07:27
kitche!compile > swashbucklinstev07:27
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ijiii've tried using only on installation disc on one harddrive07:27
sheepy1988dammit07:27
oskudeDarkWizzard: 1st, i dont see ANY errors there, so wheres the problem ?07:27
kitcheswashbucklinstev: that's what you need what ubotu sent you07:27
DarkWizzardI'm asking you07:27
sheepy1988cheers anyway ardchoille07:27
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DarkWizzardIf I knew what the problem was I wouldn't be here07:28
XhyldazhKhi all... how can I open remote files with nautilus/gedit without gedit setting them as read only?07:28
zv_odd_ok i tried typing "echo gksudo gedit >> lol.sh" then "chmod o+x lol.sh" then "./lol.sh" and it says permission denied. Why what did i do worng?07:28
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SoH|Tonyhello again07:28
oskudeDarkWizzard: eeh what ? i dont even know whats the problem...07:28
XhyldazhKzv_odd_: its chmod u+x07:28
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SoH|Tonyanyone here that remember me from 1h ago? =P07:28
DarkWizzardlol man07:28
DarkWizzardfirewall07:28
DarkWizzarddaemons start07:28
DarkWizzardbut Cant connect07:28
XhyldazhKo+x means other users can execute07:28
zv_odd_lol07:28
DarkWizzardand the policy is right07:28
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XhyldazhKhow can i remote edit with gedit?07:29
ApesMaIs there a different channel for Edgy Eft discussion?07:29
oskudeDarkWizzard: please do "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" and show me its errors07:29
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zv_odd_that stupid mistake aside, is there a better way todo wat i am trying todo07:29
DarkWizzardman07:29
DarkWizzardI alredy did07:29
DarkWizzardno errors07:29
SoH|Tonyi have a big problem when installing ubuntu: it completely ignores the partition already made (15gb,90,6.77) on my laptop. how can i make sure he gets the 6.77gb one?07:29
lamegoApesMa, #ubuntu+107:29
DarkWizzardit starts!07:29
DarkWizzardbut Cant connect07:29
chantrahi there, is there any irish around?07:29
ApesMalamego: tnx 1e607:29
DarkWizzardah screw it you guys are too busy to concentrate07:29
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kitchezv_odd_: yes just do gksudo gedit in a console07:29
DarkWizzardthanks anyway07:29
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oskudeDarkWizzard: wait!07:29
oskudewhat an ***07:30
SoH|Tony=\07:30
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ijiii thought I'm suppose to simply boot the desktop cd and install and during the installation i have options to partition my harddrive, am i suppose to partition my harddrive before installing?07:30
kitcheoskude: his problem was that he didn't know how to make a config file when he doesn't read docs07:30
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SoH|Tonyanyone got any idea about my problem? =\07:30
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Dr_willisSoH|Tony,  leave it unallocated.. let the installer find/format it.07:31
oskudekitche: no, he just posted this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25742/ and didnt say 1. what he wanted to do. 2. what the problem is...07:31
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SoH|Tonyi dont think i know what unallocated means but ill try07:31
kitcheoskude: his problem was that he didn't know how to configure it from what I read07:31
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XhyldazhKanyone knows how to open remote files in gedit whitout having them as read only? i've googled a lot and i don't found an answer07:31
Dr_willisNOT in any partition.. just select the 6gb and delte the partition.. then reboot and let the isntaller look for it and tell it to use the unallocated space.07:32
oskudekitche: what ever, inpatient people nerv me, i go eat07:32
kmaynardXhyldazhK, how are you accessing them?07:32
XhyldazhKkmaynard: via nautilus07:32
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XhyldazhKkmaynard: but i'm not in gnome07:32
SoH|Tonyok willis07:32
SoH|Tonythanks07:32
kmaynardXhyldazhK, what protocol? samba?07:32
XhyldazhKkmaynard: ftp with password07:32
rukuarticDoes anyone know how I can mount a fat32 partition so that everyone can read/write to it, not just root?07:32
XhyldazhKkmaynard: strange thing is that konqueror can edit them07:33
boink!schedule07:33
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:33
kmaynardXhyldazhK, if its ftp, you'll need to create a local copy, then upload the changed file07:33
XhyldazhKwith kate07:33
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ladydoorrukuartic: try adding umask=111 in its entry in fstab (after backing up fstab)07:33
XhyldazhKkmaynard: but... why you can't edit it online?07:33
kmaynardXhyldazhK, dunno07:33
XhyldazhKall modern editors support that07:33
ladydoorrukuartic: (in the options section--so it might look like defaults,umask=111)07:33
rukuarticladydoor: Thanks, I think thats it!07:33
kmaynardtry right clicking it and select gedit to open it07:33
XhyldazhKand worst of all... i was been able to remotely edit with gedit before07:33
ladydoorrukuartic: np07:34
rukuarticladydoor: Can you explain what that does?07:34
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kmaynardXhyldazhK, what are you doing different now?07:35
ladydoorrukuartic: basically, i think it tells the computer that the only permissions people don't have is execute (1). it's the opposite of chmod's system, basically.07:35
XhyldazhKrunning window maker instead of gnome?07:35
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XhyldazhKthats the only thing i'm doing different07:35
rukuarticladydoor: Haha, thanks!07:35
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ladydoorrukuartic: np07:35
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davvsis there any command to find all soft links in a directory hierarchy?07:35
kmaynardXhyldazhK, i had trouble with some things when i ran xfce4...there must be some gnome goodness not happening in window maker now07:35
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XhyldazhKkmaynard: like which things?07:36
yu_raiderhi07:36
kmaynardXhyldazhK, like being able to use gedit over ftp?07:36
rukuarticdavvs: you could "ls -lr ./" and grep for "s" in the first part of the permissions...07:36
XhyldazhKdid u had trouble with that in other environments distinct to gnome?07:36
MikeyMikeis there perhaps a way to send bits to a certain ip on bittorrent if you're still seeding?07:37
MikeyMikeor perhaps direct the person to your ip07:37
MikeyMiketo add your ip07:37
davvsrukuartic, how whould i do that ? what command that is07:37
rukuarticdavvs: sorry, "l" not s07:37
rukuarticdavvs: find the directory you want to search07:37
rukuarticdavvs: type "ls -l ./ | grep sr"07:37
davvsok.. thanks07:37
kmaynardXhyldazhK, not really...i either use smb or nfs for remote mounts tho07:37
rukuarticdavvs: Not the best way to do it07:37
kmaynardi had trouble with media codecs07:38
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davvsrukuartic, ok, it works i guess :P07:38
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markeib_how can i copy a dir with the console?07:38
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Dr_willismarkeib_, yes07:38
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Dr_williscp -R07:38
markeib_-R?07:38
markeib_thankx07:39
markeib_s07:39
Dr_willisman cp07:39
joeriwhat is this?07:39
Dr_willisand google for some bash tutorials07:39
markeib_i prefer doing those things by hand but he won't let me since i don't have the rights07:39
XhyldazhKkmaynard: http://bamboomoon.org/gnome/use_gedit_to_edit_files_across_ftp07:40
markeib_by mouse*07:40
Dr_willismarkeib_,  thats what 'sudo' lets you do.07:40
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Dr_willisit pays to learn the shell...07:40
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Dr_willisor use 'mc'07:40
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kmaynardXhyldazhK, hang on, closed the browser :)07:40
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MZMany oracle experts here?07:41
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markeib_yes, Dr_willis but how can i use sudo with nautilus?07:41
Dr_willismarkeib_,  best answer  you DONT.. it can do nasty things07:41
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Dr_willismarkeib_,  if you must use a  fancier file manager.. learn to use 'mc' and sudo it. :P07:42
Fackamatohm07:42
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Dr_willis!info mc07:42
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ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB07:42
markeib_fancy?07:42
Fackamatoanyone know a program to record the desktop to a video file with?07:42
Fackamato(including recording opengl)07:42
Fackamatoistanbul works..07:42
kmaynardif you want to live on the edge, gksu nautilus07:42
Fackamatobut it's like 2 fps :\07:42
markeib_!info konqueror07:42
ubotukonqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1911 kB, installed size 5168 kB07:42
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blazemongerhello folks07:42
Dr_willis!info gentoo07:42
ubotugentoo: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.46-1 (dapper), package size 728 kB, installed size 2336 kB07:42
Dr_willis!info filerunner07:43
ubotufilerunner: X-Based FTP program & file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.1-16 (dapper), package size 135 kB, installed size 656 kB07:43
Dr_willis!info worker07:43
ubotuworker: highly configurable two-paned file manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-3 (dapper), package size 675 kB, installed size 2648 kB07:43
oskudeFackamato: http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/ is very good, but you would have to compile it from cvs, as its not yet r07:43
Dr_willisI perfer 2 pane filemanagers.07:43
oskudeFackamato: *ready (sorry, im eating the same time)07:43
kmaynardXhyldazhK, nice tip07:43
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blazemongerUbuntu has been treatin me good so far07:43
Fackamatooskude, okay, thanks.. I'll check it out.07:43
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markeib_ok just one question how do i remove one folder recursively in the console?07:43
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markeib_rm -R?07:43
frescho07:44
blazemongereven a person i know that says he hated linux likes ubuntu07:44
Dr_willis' one folder recursively' - Hmmm...07:44
ladydoormarkeib_: rm -r. if you don't want it to prompt you for each file, use -rf. but BE CAREFUL.07:44
Dr_willisrm -R removes the DIRECTORY and all stuff in it.07:44
Dr_willis:)07:44
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ladydoormarkeib_: rm doesn't send anything to the trashcan--it's *gon*07:44
markeib_'one folder + subfolders recursively' :P07:44
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ladydoor* or gone, even07:44
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markeib_who needs trashcans?07:44
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ladydoormarkeib_: not i!07:45
EnselicWhere can I read about how to mount SD-cards? I fail to google :(07:45
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markeib_grr i spend all my time trying to make my desktop look better!07:45
Zarephath_Under Places --> Computer it lists my first hard drive hda1....Ubuntu is installed to hdb...when I double click the icon I get a message stating /dev/hda1 is not removable then a second error regarding not being able to execute pmount..anyone help me resolve this?07:45
kmaynardEnselic, what desktop you use?07:45
exmethixcould anybody help me installing a gtk2 theme in edgy eft?07:45
markeib_i hate the fact that you have so many possibilities07:46
exmethixpls07:46
Enselickmaynard: Gnome 2.14 on Ubuntu 6.0607:46
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kmaynardEnselic, what kind of reader you have on your pc?07:46
ladydoormarkeib_: your problems are solved! http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison07:46
Enselickmaynard: I have a laptop, and the reader is part of the laptp hardware so to speak, it supports several formats07:47
XhyldazhKby the way... its time to switch to Edgy Eft.... or its still 'too edgy' ?07:47
kmaynardEnselic, do you have anything in Computer for your reader?07:47
markeib_oh but i love it, it's just the fact that it's so interesting and doesn't really get you any further :P07:47
Dr_willisI got a laptop and its card reader isent seen/configured right.. :( i think the next kernel fixes that however.07:47
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capiCrimmping07:47
Dr_willispong07:48
Zarephath_tic tac toe07:48
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dabugashi07:48
oskudeXhyldazhK: edgy is still beta07:48
boinkit will be released on 26 October07:48
Enselickmaynard: Nope07:48
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dabugasi can only play video dvds as root. any ideas?07:49
Zarephath_Someone help me understand why I can't change the name of my USB drive that is automounting at boot? it names it "New Volume"07:49
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gustavohelloo07:50
swashbucklinstevthanks kitche07:50
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Enselickmaynard: You gave up on me already? :)07:52
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njalUm how do I check if I am using opensource nvidia drivers or the oss ones?07:52
njalargh07:52
njalthe normal nvidia drivers or the oss ones07:52
SoH|Tonyhello its me again07:52
kmaynardEnselic, what kind of laptop07:52
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SoH|Tonywhats the best filesystem for a linux root partition and for a swap partition?07:53
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ladydoorSoH|Tony: the best for swap is swap :-)07:53
oskudenjal: one way is "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look if there "nv" or "nvidia"07:53
SoH|Tonyi dont have only fat32 and ntfs... i got a whole load of filesystems =(07:53
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kmaynardnjal, look in /etc/X!!/xorg.conf  if the driver is nvidia, its proprietary. if it's nv, its oss07:53
Enselickmaynard: It's a pretty local custom one, a Zepto (<- company name)  Znote 401507:53
ladydoorSoH|Tony: and there're a lot of good filesystems for / ...fat32 isn't recommended, and ntfs would be deadly. i'd go for ext3.07:53
oskudeSoH|Tony: for / i would use ext3 and swap has "swap"07:53
vit_hy all07:53
blazemongerconfiguring Ubuntu wasn't too difficul either07:54
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njaland nv is the oss one right?07:54
vit_vorbeste cineva in romina ???07:54
SoH|Tony"and ntfs would be deadly" whoooo i was going to chose that07:54
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SoH|Tonythanks lady and oskude07:54
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ladydoorSoH|Tony: no problem :-)07:54
njaland setting it to nvidia then simply rebooting will be fine, coz i have nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx installed07:54
Enselickmaynard: Is SD support supposed to be automagicall?07:55
SoH|Tonyswap filesystem is linux-swap right? gon chose that for my 800mb swap partition07:55
oskudenjal: yes, nv is the oss, nvidia is the closed source07:55
kmaynardEnselic, i dunno then. check /etc/fstab to see if there's an entry in there. if not, you're gonna have to do some digging to figure out how ubuntu is detecting that drive, and add an fstab option for it07:55
oskudeSoH|Tony: yup07:55
SoH|Tonykk great07:55
njaloskude: So with the correct kernel modules installed it's simply a matter of rebooting?07:55
kmaynardnjal, you'll soon find out07:55
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oskudenjal: yup, but dunno if you really need reboot of whole system, restart of gdm could be enought07:56
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njalI hear running glxgears will show me how well the card is performing, assuming my desktop comes back up with no problem07:56
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SoH|Tonywhat does "mount" mean?07:57
oskudenjal: yup, and glxinfo too07:57
kmaynardnjal, bite the bullet dude07:57
njaloskude: Ok cool thanks07:57
Enselickmaynard: No SD stuff in fstab, I'll make further investigations, thank you for your time anyway07:57
EnselicSoH|Tony: "attach to"07:57
EnselicSoH|Tony: kind of07:57
kmaynardEnselic, any idea what brand the drive is?07:57
oskudeSoH|Tony: you mount a partition to a place in the system so you can use it.. (in windows that mount point would be like "C:")07:57
SoH|Tonyubuntu is asking me if i want to mount my already-in-use 90gb partition to /media/sda5 and my windows partition to /media/sda107:58
SoH|Tonyok ill let him mount them then07:58
ladydoorSoH|Tony: well, in linux, there's only a single filesystem, with a root at / (pronounced ``slash'' or ``root'')...when you put a partition into a dir in that filesystem so you can access it, you've mounted it.07:58
ephemerosyo \m/07:58
SoH|Tonyim overwhelmed... so much help for a small user =)07:58
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oskudeSoH|Tony: that means you can acces those partitions from those directories (and they will be mounted automaticly on boot)07:58
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SoH|Tonyok so this doesnt mean loss of data for those partitions? hope not =)07:59
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oskudeSoH|Tony: ntfs filesystems are normally mounted as read only, so you cant write to there from linux07:59
GastenWhat do you think, Dots at the end of a comment or not?07:59
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SoH|Tonythat is really bad!08:00
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Gastenoh, sorry! wrong channel!08:00
oskudeSoH|Tony: well, go blame ms for that!08:00
Hattorii'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/19211508:00
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SoH|Tonybecause my 90gb partition is NTFS and i really need that data =\08:00
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ladydoorSoH|Tony: tell windows to release their source! then linux could read/write them easily.08:00
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SoH|Tonywell08:00
SoH|Tonyif i reformat it to fat32, would it work then?08:00
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oskudeSoH|Tony: they dont show open source developers howto use that filesystem, so they have very hardtime to support that filesystem.08:00
MikeyMikewhat does snubbed mean in torrent terms?08:00
Zaggynlfat32 is supported well08:00
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SoH|Tonyok08:00
Hattorii'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/19211508:01
Hattori<oskude> SoH|Tony: well, go blame ms for that!why it enters 2.6.15-26 kernel dir? i have 2.6.15.27 currently installed08:01
GastenSoH|Tony: There is some files you could download to write to a ntfs!08:01
oskudeSoH|Tony: fat32 has very good support under linux08:01
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SoH|Tonydamn where will i put 80gb of stuff temporarily? =P08:01
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ZaggynlSoH|Tony, You could try to use vmware to run winxp and share the partition for safe write support08:01
GastenSoH|Tony: Thou, it isn't 100% safe to do that.08:01
ZaggynlI do that now :)08:01
ferossSoH|Tony:  go to  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com  wrote how to share partitions with windows.08:01
SoH|Tonyvmware is like a windowsxp emulator?08:01
oskudeHattori: sory, i got no experience with ndiswrapper, never used it...08:01
Hattorihmm sorry..08:01
Enselickmaynard: No idea what the name is, I tried to find /dev -name "*sd*" without success08:01
Zaggynl!vmware08:01
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare08:01
SoH|Tonyaha its a mediaplayer08:02
Zaggynlhm, well it emulates a whole new computer08:02
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SoH|Tonyok08:02
oskudeHattori: but this seems to be what you should investigate "/bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory"08:02
njalok thanks guy I now have my nvidia card working properly08:02
heanol_can you chose lilo in the alternate install?08:02
Hattoriany module i'm missing?08:02
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oskudeSoH|Tony: you should ALLWAYS have external backups... yes, windows can broke things too... so, dont trust computers ;)08:03
Attha1hi room, how i can play mp3 files in ubuntu? where i can download codecs?08:03
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SoH|Tonyzaggynl so its like i can have ubuntu and XP running at the same time?08:03
GastenSoH|Tony: I think you can get something here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?action=show&redirect=NTFSReadWrite08:03
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SoH|Tonywell i have this PC as main workstation and that laptop as mobile. i should backup my laptop to my pc ^^08:03
GastenSoH|Tony: Otherwise, try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ntfs&titlesearch=Titles08:03
oskudeHattori: and nevers seen something like this "sudo make make -C driver" sure that is correct ?08:03
SoH|Tonyok08:03
ZaggynlSoH|Tony, well, you run vmware in linux, and in vmware you can run another OS08:03
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GastenSoH|Tony: but as I said, it isn't 100% secure.08:04
SoH|Tonyok08:04
dabugasi can only play video dvds as root. any ideas?08:04
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SoH|Tonylife isnt 100% secure. just have to know how to use it =)08:04
ardchoilleSoH|Tony: :)08:04
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devnullmy gnome-panels keep failing and locking up ... i can't figure out which applet is crashing them but i have almost no usuability in gnome without the panels ... is there anything i can do ?08:04
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Hattorioskude: is not me, is the make script that do that08:05
ferossdabugas: hmm look in system>admin>users and groups .. make sure you have permissions for verythnig08:05
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Attha1how i can play mp3 files in ubuntu? thank you08:05
SoH|Tonyis there a method to change the filesystem of a partition without loss of data?08:05
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oskudeHattori: ok...08:06
Gastendevnull: Well, I don't think that the applet's messing it up. But I have no idea what it is. Have you been messing with the source?08:06
dabugasfeross, accroding to users-admin i do08:06
devnullgasten no i haven't08:06
GastenAttha1: do a search on EasyUbuntu.08:06
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feross!easyubuntu08:06
ladydoor!codecs> Attha108:06
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:06
devnullthe only thing that is different is i have deskbar-applet on the panel but it was running fine last time the panels were working08:06
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ferossAttha1: easyubuntu can install the codecs for you08:06
devnulli have 3 panels and i can't use any of them08:06
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oskudeSoH|Tony: i think it depends on from what to what... and then ask google08:07
Attha1thank you08:07
Gastendevnull: well, I can't really help you. sorry. I think you should do a post on one of the forums, and maybe even a bugreport on launchpad.08:07
ferossdevnull: did you ps aux and look for anything that could be runnig in the background that could cause that?08:07
SoH|Tonyok ubuntu is installing08:07
SoH|Tonythanks for all support =)08:07
devnullfeross ... i am not sure what in the background would cause it though08:08
oskudeSoH|Tony: np, thats why we are here :)08:08
devnullfeross i did that last night for an hour08:08
SoH|Tonysuch easy thing to do as installing a new OS seems to be very hard on my hands ^^08:08
devnullplus i don't know how to remove things from the panel without having access to the panel so they all just keep getting reloaded08:08
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Attha1when i turn on my computer the ubuntu will connect automatic to internet (dialup). how i can turn off automatic connection?08:08
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oskudeSoH|Tony: dualboot is allways hard, if you dont know about partitions and file systems (on what ever os)08:08
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SoH|Tonywell i got my bad experiences on that already =P08:09
ferossdevnull: if your gnome sessions are being saved then the next time you start gnome it will start all of those background critters again. you might have to blow away all of your gnome settings and start over.08:09
SurfnKidallright its question time08:09
SurfnKidhow do i remove an error on network startup08:09
SurfnKidits a fiaif error08:09
devnullfeross .... can i remove things from the gnome session by hand ?08:09
SurfnKidwhere can i check for network startup settings08:09
devnulli just dont know what would be fudging up the panels08:10
SoH|Tonyand i only have laptop-vital stuff and some documentaries (well a lot of them, including one about linux which is the reason im here) so it shouldnt be a killer loss08:10
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devnullcan i just remove the session file ?08:11
ferossdevnull: ahh, i think if you don't mind setting up your gnome stuff again it better just to start from scratch. It will probably not take very long.08:11
oskudeSurfnKid: i only know /etc/network/interfaces08:11
Kuto2where do i get ncurses-devel and gtk+ stuff for ubuntu?08:11
oskudedevnull: make a backup first, and try08:11
devnullfeross ... should i just kill the whole .gnome2 dir ?08:11
devnulloskude good idea08:11
Kuto2pls someone help me?08:11
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oskudeKuto2: by installing ncurses devel package, and gtk+ stuff :/08:12
ferossdevnull: you can mv it just in case.. log out then alt+ctrl+f2 .. log in and mv it. then go bac to alt+f7 and log in.08:12
ladydoorKuto2: libncurses5-dev is the packagename.08:12
SurfnKidoskude, apparently its an error on fiaif, fiaif is a network firewall simple to use but i didnt need it any longer and uninstalled it, but when ubuntu starts now something shows up and says startup failure. network is fine, but it does bother me to see that08:13
devnullfeross ... i know how to move around linux fine ... just making sure .gnome2 is the only directory i need to move ?08:13
Kuto2ladydoor: thanks08:13
ferossyup08:13
devnullthank you :)08:13
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ladydoorKuto2: np08:13
devnulli will brb08:13
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oskudeSurfnKid: oh, firewall, never used one, sorry...08:14
Kuto2ladydoor: what about gtk+ stuff08:14
SurfnKidoskude, its ok08:14
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oskudeKuto2: please define gtk+ stuff08:14
ladydoorKuto2: do you mean gtk dev libraries? if you search in synaptic or aptitude or adept or do apt-cache search you can find them and any other gtk stuff you could want.08:14
Attha1i installed easyubuntu, but still i can't play mp3 files! :(08:14
Kuto2ladydoor: do they change package names??08:14
ladydoorKuto2: what?08:15
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Lunar_Lampcan anyone tell me why this command is not deleting files on the backup device that have been deleted on the primary device please: http://pastebin.co.uk/309908:15
godzirrahow do I get something like gpm so I can cut and paste in the console mode?08:15
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ferossAttha1: double click the volume applet and make sure that alsa is selected and your sound card is there.08:15
kitcheKuto2: Ubuntu uses it's own package names if that's what you meant08:15
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ferossAttha1: also look for PCM and make sure it's not muted. Unmute Master and PCM and raise the volume on those.08:16
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Attha1oh sorry, i forget to update easy ubuntu! im doing that now08:16
ferossok08:16
godzirrahow do I get something like gpm so I can cut and paste in the console mode?08:16
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SoH|Tonymhm08:17
ladydoorgodzirra: use gnu screen--it's got cut/paste and terminal multiplexing :-)08:17
ferossgodzirra: ah ladydoor beat me to it .. screen is cool.08:17
godzirraladydoor: the problem is I already have some text I need to save and i dont want to retype it all08:17
godzirranormally Id o use screen08:17
godzirrathis is just a new install08:17
godzirraand i need to show someone else this output08:17
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SoH|Tonywhen shutting down my ubuntu it gets a list of processes being stopped. but when stopping RAID monitoring, it says it fails doing that. is it THAAT bad?08:17
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ladydoorgodzirra: try putting it in a file, with >08:18
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godzirraIts already on the screen08:18
godzirraand its multiple commands08:18
godzirraReally I just need gpm :)08:18
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dyn-afkSoH|Tony do you have a RAID setup ?08:18
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SoH|Tonyi dont know08:19
ferossgodzirra: can you alt+f3 or something.. then install gdm and go back to wherever you were08:19
SoH|Tonyi just installed ubuntu08:19
oskudeSoH|Tony: ubuntu dapper or edgy ?08:19
ferosss/gdm/gpm08:19
godzirrafeross: gdm?  thats gnome display manager.08:19
godzirraahh :)08:19
SoH|Tonyi dont know =S08:19
godzirraI could, but gpm isnt a package according to ubuntu08:19
dyn-afkthen you don't have a RAID setup SoH|Tony08:19
Garnolhi ive a question about ubuntu ..08:19
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SoH|Tonyok08:19
SoH|Tony=)08:19
godzirraI just hae the gpm libs and mdetect which just detects mice.08:19
Garnolcan i install ubuntu on a flash drive ..08:19
dyn-afkand because you don't have one, it fails shutting down RAID08:19
Traecould someone please help me restore grub?08:19
Garnoli mean an Usb stick or a SD Card08:19
dyn-afksimply logic :P08:19
TraeI've booted the live cd08:19
kitcheGarnol: if you use the livecd you can and got enough space08:20
dyn-afkvery normal that something fails to shutdown something that's not running08:20
oskudeTrae: does this help ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:20
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ferossgodzirra: well... I can keep going on about how you can wget it and install anyway but it seems you want something OTHER than gpm. jeje I'm not sure there is one.08:20
Traeoskude: k, sec08:20
godzirrafeross: no, I want exactly gpm08:21
godzirraI just dont know where to get it :p08:21
Garnolhh .. but on the CD you cant wride on08:21
ijiidamn, I still have the same error installing ubuntu with a different harddrive!08:21
kitche!gpm08:21
ubotugpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB08:21
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kitchedogzirra: there you go :)08:21
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david83Garnol try "damn small linux" its perfect for pen-drive installation08:21
kitcheopps godzirra*08:21
ijiii still have the buffer I/O error on device hdc08:21
SoH|Tonyok great08:21
SoH|Tonyno internet connection08:21
kitcheijii: it's the cd most likely a bad burn08:21
SoH|Tonyion ubuntu =\08:21
godzirraAhh, I got it :)08:21
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oskudeijii: did you try with "ide=nodma" ?08:22
ijiii did oskude08:22
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LattywareHey all, Does anyone know how it is possible to upmix all of my audio to utilise my 5.1 system?08:22
ijiithat took away the timout waiting for DMA and hdc: drive not ready for command errors08:22
kitcheijii: since hdc is usually a cdrom unless you have three hard drives08:22
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oskudeijii: try the "check cd" boot option, and see if the cd is ok08:22
LattywareI currently hit 'Four Channel Mode', but that doesn't utilise the Center or sub08:23
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SoH|Tonywhat is the program called to configure internet connection in ubuntu? =\08:23
C0RVUSbonjour, je cherche un serveur fr08:23
ijiioh, maybe i can use my dvdrw drive instead of the dvd-rom08:23
kitcheSoH|Tony: you connected directly to the modem?08:23
ijiii did that oskude, but it pretty much immediately did the normal install08:23
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NeloHello, I am trying to use smb://ipaddresss/shared_point and it does not work. When I mount via smb fs it works. is there something else i need to do in order to use the smb://08:23
SoH|Tonyits a lan cable connected to a switch which is connected to a rounter which is connected to a cable modem08:23
SoH|Tonyrouter*08:24
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oskudeijii: hmm, when i download iso file, i allways look the md5 sum of it before i burn it... just to be sure the download was ok...08:24
david83pppoeconf @ SoH|Tony08:24
JoshuaWHello :P08:24
SoH|Tonythanks08:24
kitcheSoH|Tony: ok so your not connected to the modem directly I m I correct?08:24
ijiihow do i check the md5 sum?08:24
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kitchesince ppoeconf will only be used if you are directly connected08:24
blackwire83hey, has anyone got a pointer how to use more than 8 loop devices? (i have kernel param max_loop=255 already set)08:24
JoshuaWCan someone help me?08:25
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ijiimy normal dvd drive is like 7-8 years old08:25
david83man md5sum @ ijii08:25
oskudeijii: the ubuntu download page has information for that08:25
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ijiiok sorry08:25
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Garnol(ok im back) .. i dont want to use the live CD, because you cant write programms or delet programms on a CD .. so i want to use an USB Stick or SD Card .. is it possible to install ubuntu on things like that ?08:25
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haijunhi everybody08:26
harshaHello everyon!08:26
oskudeijii: but on the end it takes you here http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html08:26
david83Garnol what about damn small linux ? you don't like it? it's just 60MB08:26
phaedrus44what is that command to see disks and how much disk space is used?08:26
SoH|Tony[20:24:42]  <kitche> SoH|Tony: ok so your not connected to the modem directly I m I correct?08:26
SoH|Tonyyes to that08:26
ladydoorphaedrus44: df -h08:26
phaedrus44ladydoor  what does that stand for?08:26
david83df or du @ phaedrus4408:26
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SoH|Tonykitche: yes08:26
harshaIs the default alt-tab behaviour different on Dapper? This new scheme is getting to my nerves.08:26
ladydoorphaedrus44: degrees of freedom --human-readable08:26
LattywareHey all, does anyone know how I can upmix my audio to 5.1 from stereo?08:26
harshabtw, I am on gnome.08:27
kitcheSoH|Tony: well ifconfig can help out but there is a gui option to setup networking also08:27
SoH|Tonyok but08:27
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ladydoorphaedrus44: (but the command is just df -h)08:27
david83with linux software @ Latty? no idea08:27
C0RVUShello, I seek a waiter Fr, can you help me please ?08:27
oskudeharsha: alt-tab works here like "allways" whats the problem ?08:27
cesari need configure ctvfmi08:27
Lattywaredavid83: hmmm :/08:27
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LattywareI need my sub :P08:28
SoH|Tonyu guys say pppoeconf, ifconfig... so there must be a console to write those keywords and open it through there (as if in "run") ?08:28
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TokenBadok i need help with something...I have 2 drives...the second drive is partitioned...and I want to install ubuntu on the second of those partitions...but see no way to do that auto an in the manual setup no idea how to do it...anyone help please?08:28
oskudeSoH|Tony: applications - accessories - terminal08:28
david83:) i guess there are a lot hardware solutions for that @ Lattyware08:28
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SoH|Tonythanks oskude08:28
ijiino wonder why i didn't see the md5sum, it's kind of out of the way08:28
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swashbucklinstevIs there a legal reason libdvdcss can't be installed via the repositories?08:28
oskudeSoH|Tony: and yes, it quite hidden there, i would drag it to the panel ;)08:29
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smaxhi gang08:29
JoshuaWHello?08:29
kitcheswashbucklinstev: copyrighted08:29
Sasuk3i08:29
david83sorry SoH pppoeconf was just because i thought you were direct behind the modem so if you have a router ifconfig is better08:29
Lattywaredavid83: Well, my speakers actually support upmixing, but I use that for my 360, and I don't want to have to switch cables every time I want to switch device :/08:29
Sasuk3I want to check nubuntu08:29
oskudeswashbucklinstev: there are even legal issues for that to even exist...08:29
SoH|Tonyok08:29
swashbucklinstevkitche: ah, I thought it would be more like the DMCA thing08:29
SoH|Tonyok david08:29
smaxi attempted a   apt-get remove mldonkey-server  and i get the following error message.  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ln5xqS90.html08:29
TokenBadI am at the screen it talks about mount points and no idea how to make sure it installs to the partition I want it to...and without formating the parts I don't want it to format08:29
smaxhow can i rid of this package ?08:29
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swashbucklinstevoskude: DMCA?08:29
smaxit's interfereing with my apt-get install08:30
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sonialhhola08:30
oskudeswashbucklinstev: whats that ?08:30
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harshacesar: Previously, I could switch between two application windows with two alt-tab strikes. Now I have to hold the alt key continuously and hit the tab key. Even then, it does not go back to the last visited application window, it cycles to some other one. Well, I wonder if I did a good job explaining it.08:30
Dr_willisTokenBad,  figure out what partition you want it to install to. would be step 1 i guess08:30
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david83@swashbuck because it cracks the DVD Protection and that's not legal08:30
TokenBadI know what partition...its hdd208:30
dyn-afkdmca: that idiotic american piece of law about "copyright protection"08:30
swashbucklinstevoskude: in american law, Digital Millenium Copyright Act08:30
TokenBadbut its at the mount point section and its asking questions I don't know the answer to08:30
Sasuk3Nubuntu the best hacking distro?08:31
Sasuk3http://oliverwine.info/nubuntu/screens/640/screen5.jpg08:31
Sasuk3xD08:31
dyn-afkit's more like a law to squeeze more money out of consumers :X08:31
Kuto2how do i clear my terminal?08:31
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Kuto2how do i clear my terminal?08:31
Kuto2?????????/08:31
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dyn-afkclear08:31
oskudeswashbucklinstev: dunno, i know very little about america (or even the law)08:31
david83clear08:31
Dr_willisTokenBad,  you want / mounted to that partition you want it to install to08:31
SoH|Tonyi cant configure that alone. would it be the same as configuring it in windows? cuz then i can call a friend of mine =)08:31
sonialhalguien k mande priva208:31
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Kuto2no like clear clear08:31
swashbucklinstevit's the one that made black sharpies theoretically illegal because copy protection can be circumvented on some earlier CDs by blacking out the track08:31
Dr_willisKuto2,  dont be so rude.. and use the cls command08:31
kitcheKuto2 type reset08:31
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Dr_willisoops thats my own alias.. :P08:31
Dr_willislol08:31
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swashbucklinstevwhich contains the copy protection software08:31
Dr_williscls = clear08:32
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Hattorii'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192141 --> it hangs there.. what that mean???08:32
TokenBadDr_willis: what about the rest of them...the swap and all that crap its asking about08:32
patachHello, can anybody help me concerning hardware compadibility with ubuntu, xgl and compiz with a Imac08:32
Dr_willis swashbucklinstev  that wasent even really copy protection.. it was just machine confusion.08:32
oskudeswashbucklinstev: maybe theres a #politics or #law channel somewhere ;)08:32
BullUKHI, I dont want to interrupt while you guys are helping someone else, so once your done could someone help me to connect my smartphone via USB. TIA08:32
harshacesar: how does it work for you?08:32
patachIf it would be possible to work it.08:32
sonialhay alguien k able espaol08:32
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Dr_willisTokenBad,  if you had a sexction of the hard drive unallocated.. it could of setup the partitions automaticially. at a minimun you want a partition for / and a swap partitions08:32
Zarephath_Anyone know of a raw image viewer for digital photos?08:33
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ardchoille!sp08:33
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB08:33
ardchoille!es08:33
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:33
cesaris a tarjet of tv08:33
JoshuaWCan someone help me? I've got the ISO onto a CD, but I haven't got further from there :(08:33
swashbucklinstevoskude: #ideologies, but being that it's copyrighted I'm satisfied. the install script is really spectacular btw.08:33
swashbucklinstev:)08:33
GarnolHi .. juppi .. You can install ubuntu on Mobile drives  !!08:33
Garnoland ciao08:33
TokenBadDr_willis: so if I go an unalicate the partition that I done as ext3 it will do it auto?08:33
Dr_willisJoshuaW,  #1 - what did youy use to burn the iso to a cd.08:34
oskudeJoshuaW: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto08:34
alex_ubuntuOK this is confusing, dapper server won't let me access from my samba share from my ubuntu machine08:34
patachWould xgl and comp work on an Imac ppc?08:34
Zarephath_JoshuaW: What..you actually burned the .iso file to disk?08:34
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SoH|Tonyoh great. in windows i got everything on "obtain automaticly". now i dont know my IP nor my DNS to configure my ubuntu networking =(08:34
JoshuaWI did what it said I think xD08:34
Dr_willisTokenBad,  i alwasy just resize the  drives and leave a few gb in an unallocated space at the end.. and the installer asks to use that part..08:34
david83then take DHCP @ SoH08:34
Dr_willisJoshuaW,  Check the Cd.. see what files are on it.. if theres a single whatever.iso  -> you did it wrong.08:34
JoshuaWYeah I did it wrong08:35
kitcheSoH|Tony: it should eb set to DHCP automatically on install08:35
Zarephath_SoH|Tony: run --> cmd --> ipconfig /all08:35
JoshuaWDid I miss a file or extraction?08:35
oskudeSoH|Tony: "optain automaticly" could mean "dhcp" ...08:35
Zarephath_clear08:35
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Dr_willisJoshuaW,  WHAT program did you use to burn the iso to cd? I reccomend you use 'burn at once' (free for windows)08:35
Zarephath_What no iformation on raw image viewer for linux?08:35
Zarephath_*information*08:35
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davidj_hello08:36
david83xawtv maybe?08:36
Dr_willisZarephath_,  ive loaded them with gimp i do belive.08:36
JoshuaWI used CDBurner :P08:36
kitcheZarephath_: umm that is a windows command and he's running Linux now so how can that help him?08:36
davidj_Zarephath, try Gimp08:36
Hattorii'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192141 --> it hangs there.. what that mean???08:36
Hattorido i miss any package?08:36
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Hattorihangs.. is more it waits any command from me08:36
BullUKhttp://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/01/209226    <---- looks to have some info on raw08:36
Hattorii write "q" and exit08:36
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JoshuaW:P08:37
Zarephath_kitche: Uhhh...I mis-read what he was doing..he said he was in windows didn't he?08:37
SoH|Tonythanks Zarephath_08:37
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Zarephath_NP08:37
kitcheHattori: it seems like your missing the linux-kernel source08:37
Hattoriapt-get install linux-kernel?08:37
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SoH|Tonyso can i just write the same stuff from ipconfig /all from my PC's windows to my laptop's ubuntu?08:38
ZarephathTest08:38
david83@ Hattori it's a list of console commands just go to that address  http://pastebin.ca/19214108:38
dark_lightI have ubuntu-desktop installed and I installed the xubuntu-desktop, because in Breezy these two packages coexisted fine. But in Dapper, while the default font for gtk2 apps is fine (including firefox), in xfce the fonts is odd: in xchat they are tiny, in many gnome apps they are OK, in firefox the menu fonts are huge but page fonts are OK.. how can i configure this properly?08:38
SoH|Tonywouldnd it make my connection chocke to death?08:38
Traeoskude: hmmm08:38
davidj_Is anyone familar with using "setarch" on ubuntu (or another similar program)?08:38
Traethat seems to be for an older version of Ubuntu08:38
BullUKif its configured for DHCP (which it will default to) then there should be no need to write anything in08:38
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ZarephathWow that was frickin' wierd...XChat opened two Ubuntu channels on startup..08:38
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ZarephathDr_Willis: Thanks...I was looking for a program just like a viewer not a viewer/editor08:39
dark_lightmy major problem is with firefox fonts, two points above the epiphany fonts08:39
david83doubleclick08:39
oskudeTrae: sorry, im getting sleepy. what is for older ubuntu ?08:39
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Dr_willisZarephath,  google is your friend.. or just try the different viewers08:39
Hattorioh sorry08:39
Hattorihttp://pastebin.ca/19214808:39
JoshuaW:(08:39
david83@Zarephath pornview gthumb08:39
Hattoriis the right link08:39
david83;)08:40
Traenp08:40
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Traeoskude: sorry, the first two methods failed08:40
Traedidn't realize there were more08:40
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elliotbi updated to edgy, then when i rebooted, X won't start08:40
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Traeoskude: go to sleep!08:40
Trae;)08:40
elliotberror says, "failed to load module `ati` (module requirement mismatch) no drivers available"08:40
elliotbso sad08:40
oskudeTrae: not yet...08:40
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BullUKI'm having trouble getting my phone connected having followed a few how-tos. If I do a DMESG I can see that it's seeing the device but it doesn't mount it. Anyone know much about this ?08:41
elliotbanyone have any ideas?08:41
ardchoilleelliotb: You might try #ubuntu+108:41
JoshuaW*still confused*08:41
elliotboh yeah, thanx ard08:41
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ardchoilleyw08:41
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Hattorii'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192148 --> it hangs there.. what that mean???08:42
alex_ubuntuwhy does my Ubuntu 606 server not show up in my routers DHCP table08:42
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david83can somebody help me set up a "Terratec TerraCAM USB Pro" on Ubuntu??08:42
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atkHi. I'm a beginner with autotools and instructions say run aclocal but I can't find aclocal anywhere in the repositories. What's the catch?08:42
kitcheHattori: for some reason it's running perldebug which it should be doing08:42
kitcheshouldn't*08:42
Hattoriindeed08:42
mjrG,3708:42
mjroops08:42
Hattorikitche: so what do to?08:42
kitcheatk: aclocal is part of autotools08:43
ardchoilleatk: type: which aclocal08:43
fdrhello... please, what is the quickest and easiest way to copy an audio cd under ubuntu?08:43
BullUKinstall gnomebaker08:43
kitcheHattori: reinstall ndiswrapper it seems08:43
ladydoorfdr: bashburn, or failing that gnomebaker or kd308:43
oskudefdr: right click "copy cd" (iirc)08:43
ardchoillefdr: gnomebaker is quite nice08:43
ijiii just checked the md5sum of the image and it is different than the checksum listed, does that mean the mirror i downloaded from has an outdated one or something?08:44
SoH|Tonyok what im doing is: starting wXP on my laptop to get the infos from "ipconfig /all" and inserting it in the ubuntu networking configuration. is this a good idea?08:44
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kitcheijii: no means your disc is bad08:44
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oskudeijii: that means something went wrong on the way from the server to you08:44
ardchoilleijii: Could mean a corrupted download08:44
buzzy-how can i listen to .wav files?08:44
kitcheSoH|Tony: yes you can do it that way if it's not a static ip08:44
ferossSoH|Tony: if it's static yes, if it's dhcp probably not needed.08:44
Traein grub, hd0,0 is hda1 right?08:44
fooI installed ubuntu server edition and then set up fulxbox ... what do I need to install to be able to get a network printer working on the network? Can I just install all printer utils?08:44
atkardchoille: returns nothing08:44
oskudeijii: thats "normal" on the internet with big files...08:44
BullUKall you will need is the ip address, the subnet and the default gateway from the adapter your connecting via08:45
ardchoilleoskude: I like you explanation better :)08:45
atkkitche: and how to get it?08:45
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kitcheatk: it should have installed when you installed autotools08:45
SoH|Tony"if it's dhcp probably not needed" if it was DHCP, firefox would have worked on ubuntu from hour0 right?08:45
SoH|Tonyso it isnt?08:45
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david83buzzy: did you tried xmms and totem-player?08:45
ardchoillekitche: I'm thinking he doesn't have autotools08:45
BullUKyou can test by running ipconfig /renew in windows08:45
BullUKif it throws up an error about "no adapter is available" then your on static08:46
kitcheardchoille: yeah it seems that way08:46
ruit is possible to install eclipse from apt-get, without installing gnu-java? when eclipse run with gnu-java it works too slow (08:46
kitche!autotools > atk08:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autotools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:46
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SoH|Tony"no operation can be performed on LAN while it has its media disconnected"08:46
oskudeatk: have you actually tried to run that command ?08:46
ardchoille!info autotools08:46
SoH|Tonyo my god08:46
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ubotuPackage autotools does not exist in any distro I know08:47
SoH|Tonyi screwed my laptops internet08:47
Lunar_Lampcan anyone tell me why this command is not deleting files on the backup device that have been deleted on the primary device please: http://pastebin.co.uk/309908:47
kitcheSoH|Tony: do you have a cable connected to your laptop or is it though wifi?08:47
atkkitche, oskude: Well, I think I might not even have autotools installed. Only thing I could find is autotools-dev package, but shouldn't there be "autotools" package?08:47
SoH|Tonyo damn i hate myself now i dont even have internet connection in windows. i shouldnt have installed linux >.<08:47
SoH|Tonycable08:47
smaxim having trouble uninstalling  mldonkey-server,  it does not provide an uninstall script and apt-get remove shows  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ln5xqS90.html     and synaptec shows E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 108:47
SoH|Tonykitche: cable08:48
oskudeatk: maybe they meen autoconf and/or automake, dunno...08:48
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BullUKthen the cable isnt connected correctly, do you have the little computer with an x in it by the clock?08:48
SoH|Tonyit says the network cable is unplugged08:48
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davidj_Anyone here familar with "setarch"?08:48
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fooI installed ubuntu server edition and then set up fulxbox ... what do I need to install to be able to get a network printer working on the network? Can I just install all printer utils?08:48
SoH|Tonyya 3 X, 2 of them for wireless08:48
Unbutunewbiehello08:48
Millei recommended ubuntu to a friend, but he has a major problem installing it. when you've choosed to start the live-cd it tries to load everything, but after a while the monitor goes to standby-mode. there after nothing more happens. he says that the cd is spinning but nothing happens for more then 15 minutes, the screen is just black. any ideas?08:48
ardchoilleatk: Are you compiling aps?08:48
devnullback ... i moved my .gnome2 directory and my panels still aren't working08:49
kitcheoskude: yes those are called autotools I know them by the name of the project08:49
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kitcheSoH|Tony: ok in a console type ifconfig eth0 up08:49
devnulli am very certain it is the panel or a panel applet and not some other program that is running08:49
SoH|Tonyand yes the network cable is connected08:49
atkautomake was the what I was missing, I already had autoconf :)08:49
BullUKkitche, he's in windows08:49
SoH|Tonykitche: first of all i want to rescue my internet connection in windows08:49
oskudedevnull: and not using edgy or glx ?08:49
atkoskude: thanks08:49
SoH|Tonyand the lights in the switch arent blinking08:49
devnulloskude no glx08:49
kitcheSoH|Tony: well if it's windows then it should find the network automatically sounds like the switch is messed up08:50
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devnulldapper08:50
BullUKwell theres your problem then, the physical connection is down not much people can do from here08:50
kitcheSoH|Tony: but open up the cmd and run ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew08:50
BullUKcheck the cable at both ends08:50
MoriaeWhen I installed ubuntu, I wasn't prompted to create a password for 'root'. Is there a default password that it is set as?08:50
JoshuaWCan someone help me?08:50
SoH|Tonyit says08:50
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oskudedevnull: have you installed applets outside ubuntu.com repos ? or even debs with dpkg ? or even self compiled ?08:50
SoH|Tonyit says: "no operation can be performed on LAN while it has its media disconnected"08:50
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Stormx2JoshuaW: Whats the problem?08:50
kitche!sudo > Moriae08:50
UnbutunewbieI've managed to install latest Ubunto desktop fine, but I tried installing the Server version and on first reboot it fails to load the and goes into a loop08:51
Wheelybin!easyubuntu08:51
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:51
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BullUKyour not going to get anywhere while he has no insertion08:51
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kitcheMoriae: you can set a password but ubuntu uses sudo08:51
devnulloskude no ... the only app i added lately was NM and deskbar-applet08:51
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MoriaeOkay08:51
SoH|Tonymy lancard is still regognized as such08:51
Unbutunewbieanyone here point me in the right direction?08:51
JoshuaWI seem to have messed up, I put the .iso on a cd and I still don't know what I did wrong :P08:51
BullUKyou have a PCMCIA ethernet connection?08:51
kitcheSoH|Tony: check the switch make sure everything is plugged in and such08:51
MoriaeThank you very much kitche.08:51
MoriaeYou have been a tremendous help.08:51
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ijiioops, my download was actually correct (i accidently md5summed the wrong file :( ). but still i was able to create a cd with no problem and seems to be working just fine08:52
ardchoilleMoriae: Use sudo for cli apps and use gksudo for gui apps. enabling the root account is not supported nor recommended.08:52
oskudedevnull: then maybe uninstalling the applets you last install... sorry, i dont know where to debug that...08:52
Stormx2Unbutunewbie: If you could let us know what the errors are, do so. The server installation is optimized to be just that, a server. You can run a server on a desktop installation too, if thats what you want.08:52
SoH|Tonykitche: this PC im writting to u with is connected in the same switch08:52
ijiijoshua, what program are you using?08:52
pitillohi good afternoon, is there an easy way to add a iptables script to load when computers starts?08:52
JoshuaWProgram?08:52
JoshuaWCDBurner08:52
JoshuaW308:52
oskudeJoshuaW: you dont just put an iso to an cd, you have to "burn it as image"08:52
Unbutunewbieok hold on08:52
kitcheSoH|Tony: doesn't mean the laptop cable is plugged in to it though08:52
devnulloskude its okay ... it sounds like a good idea, i will give it a shot08:52
JoshuaWOh08:52
JoshuaWWell I'm stuck, its stuck on the CD now08:52
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SoH|Tonykitche: its a 5meter cable. i have it in my hand08:53
SoH|Tonyits plugged in both ends =\08:53
BullUKtry another port on the router08:53
kitcheSoH|Tony: might be the port is bad it happens to switches alot08:53
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JoshuaWI even tried overwritting the file with a blank :P08:53
BullUKif your not getting insertion lights then you definitely have a physical problem that needs sorting first08:54
SoH|Tonyim thrilled08:54
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oskudedevnull: how exactly did you burn the image ? did you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto08:54
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oskudesorry devnull:, ment JoshuaW  how exactly did you burn the image ? did you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowt08:54
JoshuaWI read it but I may have done something wrong08:54
devnulloskude .... after hours it was the deskbar applet apparently08:54
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BullUKis there anyone in the room who could help me getting my smartphone connected via USB?08:55
oskudedevnull: hmm, hope it aint a bug...08:55
JoshuaWIs there a possibility of me being able to overwrite the current one on the cd, so I could do it properly? :P08:55
oskudeJoshuaW: if its a RW, yes08:55
kmaynardseriously?08:55
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JoshuaWNope :(08:55
devnulloskude i hope not aswell .. i like deskbar applet ... it is much better than katapult08:55
JoshuaWIts an R08:55
oskudeJoshuaW: then you need another blacnk cd-r08:55
SoH|Tonykitche: after the last indice of internet connection in my laptop, this is what i have done: install ubunto, add a DNS server in ubunto (that in got from this pc), restart to windows and boom, no connection08:55
kitcheBullUK: who makes the phone?08:56
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EVRAMP6.10 releasing on 26TH?08:56
JoshuaWHmm08:56
BullUKits a HTC wizard (O2 XDA mini s)08:56
devnullbtw ... is it safe to continue to use dapper repos ?08:56
oskudedevnull: from which repo did you install it ?08:56
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Stormx2SoH|Tony: ubunto?08:56
JoshuaWI tried clearing a cd, by making every file on a cd = nothing :P08:56
oskudedevnull: continue to use dapper repo ? what does that mean ?08:56
Unbutunewbie'Booting 'Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-server'  <> root (hd0,4) <> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition typ 0x83 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-server root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ro quiet splash [linux-bzImage, setup=0x1c00, size=0x16c98f] 08:56
SoH|Tonyubuntu08:56
SoH|Tonyu know i mean ubuntu08:56
Stormx2SoH|Tony: No I don't. It could have been a new distro.08:57
oskudeJoshuaW: you can "clear" only RW...08:57
devnulldapper main08:57
JoshuaWRight08:57
SoH|Tonyok08:57
kitcheSoH|Tony: I think that is an issue with ubuntu and WXP if I remember correctly08:57
SoH|Tonykitche: do u see anything wrong in that what ive done?08:57
oskudedevnull: not what i ment... could you pastebin your sources.list file ?08:57
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Unbutunewbieinitrd /initrd,  img-2.6.15-26-server [Linux-initrd @ 0xd93e000, 0x6a183b bytes] 08:58
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devnulloskude ... #flood08:58
Unbutunewbiesavedefault08:58
Unbutunewbiebooting08:58
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Unbutunewbieit then reboots08:58
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oskudedevnull: ok08:58
JoshuaWoskude, can I ask another question?08:58
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kaurhow can i make ubuntu show me the name of a motherboard?08:59
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kaurlshw didn't seem to work08:59
Dr_williskaur,  good luck there.08:59
oskudeJoshuaW: just ask all08:59
kitchekaur: I know how to do it with a shell script all it does is parse the bios for it08:59
djuussHey quick question, i'm in /etc/xorg.conf with vi, edited the stuff i needed to, how do i write changes to the file?08:59
SoH|Tonydude im totally shocked09:00
Dr_willis<esc> :wq09:00
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djuusscheers Dr_willis09:00
SoH|Tonyill shut it down and wait some until i chill down09:00
BullUKkaur, the device manager will show you the chipset of your motherboard. What else do you need ot know?09:00
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Dr_willisvi 101 --> :help   (for help)  <esc> :wq to write/quit09:00
Dr_willislol09:00
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JoshuaWWell I use a DWL-g122 Adapter, so is there anyway I can find how to use it?09:00
kauri want to upgrade bios09:01
davidj_Anyone here familar with "setarch"?09:01
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siloxi have a Dell Dimension 8100 Laptop with a extra screen connected to it, so i am not using the laptop screen. But there one problem, i cant watch movies on the extra screen, it works if i unplug the extra screen and watch it on the laptop... Whats the problem?09:01
kaurthe bios is from american megatrends09:01
BullUKwouldnt it be simple to look at the stick on the mobo?09:01
phaedrus44how do i tell if a drive is ntfs or fat32?09:01
BullUKsticker09:01
kaurok the chipset should be enough09:01
Dr_willisphaedrus44,  fdisk -l /dev/whatever09:01
oskudeJoshuaW: if thats wlan, try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported09:01
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IcemanV9phaedrus44: sudo fdisk -l09:01
phaedrus44thanks Dr_willis09:01
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phaedrus44and IcemanV909:02
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JoshuaWNope09:02
JoshuaWThe one I'm using isn't there :P09:02
BullUKI'm still looking for someone to help me get my phone connected if anyone's free. I've confirmed the OSE sees it when it connects, I just need to get it to mount09:02
BullUKOSE = OS.... sorry09:03
oskudeJoshuaW: so that could mean noone has added it to that list...09:03
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kitcheBullUK: you never anwsered me who makes the phone?09:03
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howieson26hallo hab mal eine frage wie kann ich auf meine diskette zugreifen09:03
oskude!de09:04
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:04
Unbutunewbiehi guys I have a similar problem to this tread here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25614409:04
BullUKI did.... but you may have missed it in the mix up there. Its a HTC wizard that's badged as a O2 XDA mini s. Its a windows mobile 2005 device09:04
highnekoIs it possible to programs from being highlighted when they're active or something? Here's a screenshot: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/Screenshot5.png09:04
Unbutunewbieanyone got any idears09:04
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kitcheBullUK: hmm don't know anything about those phones but I tend to look for highlighted lines :)09:04
kothzHrm.  Go for guinness.  Install kubuntu.  Go for guinness.  Install kubuntu.  Decisions, decisions...09:05
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JoshuaW:p09:05
UnbutunewbieI'm trying to install the server edition because I want to build a jabber/asterisk machine09:05
Stormx2kothz: guinness! guinness!!09:05
BullUKjust incase this means something to you anyway. If I do a dmsg I get:09:05
alex_ubuntuwhy does my Ubuntu 606 server not show up in my routers DHCP table09:05
Stormx2alex_ubuntu: Its not connecting via DHCP?09:05
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BullUK[17190729.748000]  usb 1-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 409:06
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kothzCould it be answering it's own DHCP request? :)09:06
alex_ubuntuIt appears toa be functioning but when i go into the clients list on the router... no server09:06
oskudealex_ubuntu: does the server use dhcp on that router ?09:06
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BullUKso its connecting and been seen, but if I run a "diff" over the /dev directory nothing changes so it isn't mounting09:06
alex_ubuntuI have been trying to figure that out09:06
lnx^hiya, I'm playing with tc & wondershaper to limit my bandwidth09:06
kitchealex_ubuntu: my linux never shows up on my router's DHCP but it works09:07
howieson26ich weis aber ich komme auf den server nicht drauf09:07
lnx^it works fine, but I'd like to limit it that way that it doesn't affect my home network (192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0)09:07
lnx^how'd I specify that 'exception' to tc/wondershaper?09:07
alex_ubuntuwell mine won't let me in the SAMBA share09:07
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lnx^the current command seems to be: tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 18 u32 match ip dst 0.0.0.0/0 flowid 1:2009:07
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howieson26kann jemand nicht sagen ob es irgendwo ein men gibt wo ich denn inhalt der diskette abrufen kann?09:07
lnx^so, is there any way to change that dst 0.0.0.0/0 so that it matches everything BUT my local network?09:07
alex_ubuntuhow do I determine the IP adddress of the server09:07
oskude!de > howieson2609:07
meherenwhat media player can play aiff files?09:07
howieson26!de09:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:08
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kitchealex_ubuntu: on the server run ifconfig09:08
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oskudemeheren: i think the "standard" player should play that...09:08
kitchehowieson26: ask in #ubuntu-de09:08
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meherenoskude... waht is the standard ubuntu media player..? heh09:09
oskudemeheren: double click ?09:09
alex_ubuntukitche: the address is there and valid for my network, now for the samba share09:09
finalbetacan one do a cron job every 2 days?09:09
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tannerldyep09:09
alex_ubuntuWhy can't I log in..09:09
BullUKwhat OS is the PC your using to connect to the share?09:09
meherenoskude... im using xubuntu and xffm doesn't play it09:09
alex_ubuntuubuntu 60609:10
meherenerr xfmedia09:10
meherenoskude, i mean xfmedia09:10
alex_ubuntueven my win xp won't log in09:10
motinAppreciate feedback and the likes: http://wiki.motin.eu/BackingUpALinuxDesktopTheKillerStrategy09:10
Rezfinalbeta: sure... use */2 for day  might skip the 31st and 1st though ;)09:10
oskudemeheren: ah ok... (#xubuntu?) im pretty sure my favorite audioplayer xmms can play that09:10
motin:)09:10
meherenok09:10
meheren thx09:10
BullUKso ubuntu server hosts the share, ubuntu desktop is connecting to it?09:10
finalbetaRez thnx09:10
kitchealex_ubuntu: well samba has it's own users if you didn't set one up then you can't log in09:10
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alex_ubuntuI am sure I did that, does the SMB.conf shopw those09:11
highnekoIs it possible to stop programs from being highlighted when they're active or something? Here's a screenshot: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/Screenshot5.png09:11
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kitchealex_ubuntu: I m not sure since I use swat to setup samba myself09:12
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mehereni dan't think i have the appropriate plugins to yplay aiff files09:12
meheren*don't09:12
Wheelybin!samba09:12
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:12
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kazim59I m trying to install libiksemel... But I get this error.... libiksemel3 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.09:13
alex_ubuntuI created a SAMBA group and assigned my user to the group09:13
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alex_ubuntuI chmod'd the share to access it09:13
Wheelybin!nvidia09:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:13
oskudemeheren: hmm, if i had a aiff file i could test... (never played those)09:13
kazim59!libc609:13
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB09:13
kitchealex_ubuntu: so you setup a group though samba correct? or did you do it though groupadd or addgroup09:14
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alex_ubuntugroupadd09:14
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kaurubuntu does not seem to know the name of my laptops motherboard09:15
kitchealex_ubuntu: well I think samba also has it's own group as well samba has it's own userlist which you have to create and group list I believe I m sure about the userlist09:15
kaurhow can i figure that out?09:15
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kazim59I m trying to install libiksemel... But I get this error.... libiksemel3 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu2009:16
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oskudemeheren: redaing some docs, it looks xmms needs a plugin for aiff :/ but09:16
meherenoskude what is the name of the plugin.. ill install it09:17
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oskudemeheren: this should make "double click" to play aiff "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-audiofile"09:23
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meherenok thx09:23
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mehereni know haw to intsall packages... heh09:23
oskudemeheren: i dont find the xmms plugin in repos (if it exists)09:23
pianoboy3333Anyone here use libmtp?09:23
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mehereni use apitiude though09:23
fu-k-ti'm reading some instructions, and they tell me to restart the X server.  how do i do that?09:23
kaurhow can i detect a motherboard using ubuntu?09:23
fu-k-tpreferably without rebooting09:23
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oskudemeheren: np09:23
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kazim59Why is ubuntu libc6 library not working? dpkg says it needs >=2.3.6-6 etc...09:23
IcemanV9kaur: sudo lshw09:23
meherenok lets see if that worked09:23
motinI really would like feedback from this channel. Anyone care to look at it and see if it makes sense?09:23
kaurcrtl+alt_backspace kill x09:23
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ubuntu_hello09:23
kaurIcemanV9: it says unknown or smth09:23
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got_rootI have just booted with an Ubuntu LiveCD v5.1009:23
got_rootwhich is the default root password for ir?09:23
meherenoskude, worked thanks09:23
SoH|Tonyis there a way to uninstall ubuntu through the OS?09:23
kitchekazim59: because ubunt has 2.3.6 not 2.3.6-6 or higher09:23
alex_ubuntukitche: thanks for the help I got it, when you said samba users I remembered something and sure enough... right user, right p[assword and in I am09:23
keegan_!restricted09:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:23
oskudemeheren: roger. np09:23
IcemanV9kaur: dmesg09:23
meherenoskude, hmm still doesn't play in xmms though09:23
meherenoh well09:23
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oskudemeheren: yes. xmms soesnt use gstreamer09:23
SoH|Tonyis there a way to uninstall ubuntu through the OS? i belive it runied my internet connection and i hope it will work after the uninstallation =(09:23
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got_root(repeat - won't repeat again though) hello! I have just booted an Ubuntu v5.10 LiveCD, what is the default root password for it?09:23
wrtpeepsguys, netstat -nr shows my destination as 192.168.2.0, but my router is 2.109:23
kaurIcemanV9: what should i look for?09:23
meherenah09:23
wrtpeepscould this be why i cannot ping my router?09:23
kitchegot_root: ubuntu doesn't use root09:23
wrtpeepsand if so, how can i change that09:23
kazim59kitche: I tried to install a library called libiksemel... it said libiksemel3 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.09:23
oskudemeheren: it seems no one bothered to do a ubuntu package from this plugin http://www.68k.org/~michael/xmms/09:23
BullUKafter connecting a USB device and running dmesg at the terminal I get this "usb 1-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4". Am I right in thinking ubuntu is fully connected at this point?09:23
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meherenah09:23
got_rootand how will I overcome this then? --> mkdir: cannot create directory `hda': Permission denied09:23
kitchekazim59: yes you need a higher verison then 2.3.6 which ubuntu uses09:23
muthuhow do i mount a linux lvm (centos) filesystem from ubuntu?09:23
TonrenHey guys, I'm getting garbled images in FireFox.  How do I stop it from happening?09:23
siloxwhere is the inittab file in Ubuntu 6.10???09:23
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kitcheBullUK: well it sees the device and is connected doesn't mean that there is a mountpoint for it09:23
Kuto2hey09:23
pianoboy3333Anyone here use libmtp?09:23
kazim59kitche: so i cant install it? plz take a look here http://www.swapdepths.nl/2006/06/09:23
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Tonrensilox: "locate inittab"09:23
IcemanV9kaur: sudo lshw works for me .. not dmesg. is it your box a laptop or desktop?09:23
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kaurIcemanV9: laptop09:23
BullUKthere deffinately isn't but at least if I know the first bit is working I can start googling the mount point issue :-)09:23
cpk2got_root: where are you trying to make the dir?09:23
kaurIcemanV9: otherwise i'd open it...09:23
kitchekazim59: you can't install it unless you get a newer version of libc609:23
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SoH|Tonyits impossible that ubuntu cant be uninstalled!09:24
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IcemanV9kaur: hm. if lshw does not say anything, then you may go to their website for the product specf page.09:24
kazim59kitche: apt-get install libc6 says libc6 is in the newest version.09:24
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siloxTonren: it only finds a sample /usr/share/gnome/help/desktopguide/sample/inittab_disablectrlaltdelconsole09:24
got_rootcpk2: inside /mnt09:24
Tonrensilox: hmm.....09:25
kitcheSoH|Tony: only way to uninstall ubuntu is to install something over it or format the partitions it's on09:25
cpk2got_root: no sudo?09:25
oskudeSoH|Tony: can you uninstall a running windows with itself ?09:25
SoH|Tonydamn09:25
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kitchekazim59: yeah the newer version you have to compile or maybe edgy has it but that might break your dapper09:25
oskudeSoH|Tony: you got ideas... :/09:25
cpk2you certainly need root to do stuff in /mnt09:25
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ucordeshow can i get my mmc flashdisk to be read/write. when i type mount, i get : /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/mmcdisk type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)09:26
kaurIcemanV9: u mean the website of the firm who sold the box?09:26
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SoH|Tonymy laptop doesnt recognize the network cable its connected to. what can i do?09:26
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got_rootcpk2: worked! thanks09:26
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muthuhow to access a lvm from ubuntu?09:26
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Hattoriwhy wireless network is set to eth1 and not on wlan0?09:26
BullUKtony, have you tried connecting that cable to the PC your currently using, that way ypu'll know if the cable is good or not09:26
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osman#xgl09:26
oskudeSoH|Tony: regonize network cable ?09:26
SoH|Tonyok ill do that BullUK09:27
IcemanV9kaur: yes. ie lenovo for ibm thinkpads, dell for latitudes09:27
kitcheHattori: you can call it wlan0 with a udev rule09:27
ucordesSoH|Tony: "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" that's what i do in such a case09:27
siloxit says /etc/inittab in the sample file but there is no inittab file in /etc :/09:27
BullUKucordes... hes in windows09:27
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ucordeslol09:27
SoH|Tonyok09:27
ucordesanybody knows something? do i have to change my fstab?09:27
IcemanV9kaur: otherwise, lshw provides info09:27
SoH|Tonyneither windows nor linux recognizes it09:27
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SoH|Tonyill try it, urco09:27
SoH|Tonyucordes09:27
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kaurIcemanV9: it's quite an unknown and little firm compared to IBM and AFAIK they do not specify the motherboard09:28
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ucordesi don't think it will help when you have the same problem in other OSs too09:28
Hattorikitche: how to do that?09:28
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BullUKwell if youve got 2 pcs that dont get insertion its a pretty safe bet either the cable, or the router is at fault09:28
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ucordesbut you can try. this shuts down your network interface and loads it again..09:28
got_rootcpk2: usind a sudo su -09:28
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oskudesilox: i got /etc/inittab09:28
got_rootcpk2: will do fine09:28
ucordes!mmc09:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mmc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:29
ucordes!flashdisc09:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashdisc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:29
IcemanV9kaur: sorry. that's all i know what to look for. :(09:29
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oskudesilox: have you deleted the file ? do you have ubuntu dapper ?09:29
cpk2got_root: you can just sudo mkdir09:29
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str47hey09:29
StAfZe6hello09:29
lg8Hello09:29
knoppix_ger?09:29
smaxis etch or breezy  examples of repos ?09:29
kitcheHattori: well I m not to familiar with it myself but I know there is documents on it all over the Internet09:29
kaurIcemanV9: thanks anyway09:29
ZaggynlHi, I just installed beryl through synaptic, it's finished, how do I use beryl now?09:29
SoH|TonyBullUK the cable works. im using it now as we speak09:29
SoH|Tonydidnt have time for a mirc timeout thats why i didnt disconnect09:30
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siloxoksude yes i think so but i run the 6.10 Beta version09:30
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mwylegly_Hmm, I have a bit of a problem, I've been running ubuntu and windows on my laptop fine for a couple months now, I did an update today and it seems that ubuntu has overwritten my windows bootload option in grub. Any ideas?09:30
GRUBhallo09:30
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AngryElfhey all -- how do i stop a cron job from generating an email?09:30
oskudesilox: ok, thats edgy, not dapper. edgy read !edgy09:30
oskude!edgy09:30
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ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:30
silox!edgy09:31
BullUKthen either the physical port on the laptop is damaged or disabled09:31
kazim59!edgy09:31
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Zaggynl!beryl09:31
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.09:31
SoH|Tonyill format it completely and reinstall windows09:31
oskudenice, a timeout on the bot :)09:31
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muthuis it possible to mount linux lvm in ubuntu?09:31
BullUKjust a thought although its a long shot09:32
BullUKare you running a switch or a router?09:32
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Xi_hmm09:32
KEA0463hello ubuntu family09:33
osmanis there a edgy channel?09:33
kitcheIcemanV9: beryl is the community version of compiz and it seems better09:33
oskude!edgy > osman09:33
stebeghello familiy09:33
osmancheers09:33
osman#edgy09:33
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kitcheIcemanV9: aiglx is the indirect version of xgl while xgl is direct rendering09:33
buzzy-people i have installed w32codecs, but if i listen to a .wav file it is choppy!!!...how can i solve?09:33
oskudeosman: its: /j #edgy09:33
BullUKI've got a USB device that isnt creating a mount point. Can anyone offer me a starting point so that I can do some research on the topic09:33
osmanits eempty oskude09:34
KEA0463whats the best video player for ubuntu09:34
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str47good09:34
lg8unsure09:34
IcemanV9kitche: ok. thks for info.09:34
_halo`not sure09:34
osmanBullUK, have u created an entry dfor it in /etc/fstab????09:34
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stebegkea0463: mplayer09:34
kitcheIcemanV9: I like aiglx it's less of a hog in my opinion09:34
mabusCan I use a modified environment variable when calling a command (like say from a shell script run by crontab) without having it change that variable for other use? ie like, in one command call a program and have it use a different term var09:34
KEA0463 o ok09:34
ucordesdoes anyone have a SD CARD connected to his ubuntu box and can give me the according entry from fstab?09:34
KEA0463 do i just apt-get Mplayer09:34
oskudeosman: look what ubotu send you, theres the channel... i was just repeating you09:34
KEA0463or do i need more stuff09:34
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bilss_hi09:35
BullUKosman...I was under the impression I wouldnt need to. If I connect a USB flash drive the mount point is auto created09:35
osmanthanx oskude09:35
cpk2KEA0463: you might need the proper codecs to play certain formats09:35
kazim59Utunbu09:35
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=== oskude doesnt want to spam, but !blah is better than !blah > user
KEA0463ok i got all the codecs09:35
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osmanBullUK, not really, make any entry in fstab then it will auto mount09:35
kazim59!blah > kazim5909:35
carmanOShi, i have an ubuntu livecd and a vm image running on suse. is there a quicker way to get the ubuntu fonts on my suse box then this - ? run the livecd, mount suse then copy the fonts over?09:35
DethKlokWhats a good SNMP monitoring program for linux?09:35
KEA0463i have like 5 players!09:35
osmanI think BullUK09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
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KEA0463dont know which one i sbest09:35
KEA0463best09:35
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Xi_Is there anychannel that I can goto to get help with regards to ubuntu overwriting my windows bootload option in  grub?09:36
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mabusDethKlok: ethereal?09:36
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gabrielhello09:36
buzzy-people i have installed w32codecs, but if i listen to a .wav file it is choppy!!!...how can i solve?09:36
mabusXi_: !windows09:36
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mabus!windows09:36
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm09:36
silox oskude: /etc/default/console-setup is it this file i chould edit?09:36
KEA0463o yeah i cant play .wav files09:36
BullUKmaybe I should clarify, the device is a mobile phone which doesnt emulate a disk so I'm not sure if I'd be creating myself a bigger problem by doing that?09:36
kaurIcemanV9: sry, it doesn't say unknown09:36
KEA0463only .mpg09:36
nexeusvcl player less resource hungry09:36
kitchemabus: ethereal doesn't exist anymore just so you know it's called wireshark now09:36
oskudesilox: i have no idea...09:36
KEA0463and sometimes when i click on a picture it says09:36
mabusXi_: well I'm not quite sure, but there's a frequently referred to page about it09:36
KEA0463-no picture-09:36
siloxoskude ok09:37
kaurIcemanV9: but AFAIK as i know it says the vendr of BIOS09:37
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DethKlokkitche: when did they rename it?09:37
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mabuskitche: actually it more or less forked, there's still an etheral web site and developpment09:37
BullUKxi..... this happend to me a few days ago, let me dig out the link in the forums that helped me, brb09:37
kaurIcemanV9: not motherboards vendor09:37
kitcheBullUK: you need special software to access a phone09:37
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bilss_how to open gnome-terminal get this error  gnomeerminal 7152) Gtk warning cannot open display-t09:37
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ijiii'm baaaaaack, i have a problem: what's the easy program to get to allow me to boot into ubuntu?09:37
phaedrus44ello...how do i create a disk partition that can be read by windows?09:37
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mabusbilss_: trying to open a gui program as root (sudo)?09:37
ucordes!sdcard09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
mabusbilss_: or from your terminal09:38
ladydoormabus: use gksudo09:38
BullUKkitche, you may be right but the reading I've done on synce suggest that my mobile should be supported by it.......09:38
got_rootphaedrus44, create a fat32 partition09:38
mabusbilss_: ie: tty109:38
mabusladydoor: I'm not the one with the problem.09:38
phaedrus44got_root  with fdisk?09:38
kitcheBullUK: I don't know much about sync besides the phones that I know about09:38
got_roottry gparted09:38
bilss_mabus: yes09:38
ladydoormabus: oh yeah...lol. sorry09:38
IcemanV9kaur: ha. weird. motherboard is right under *-core, then *-firmware is next (BIOS)09:38
nexeusphaedrus44, cfdisk is quite good09:38
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BullUKno worries, Ill just have to keep reading09:38
mabusbilss_: you can't open up guis from tty1, and to open a gui as root in gnome use gksudo instead of sudo09:39
fre4kanyone have any idea about siocaddrt:network is unreachable09:39
kaurIcemanV9: core's physical id:009:39
SoH|Tonykitche: OK now ill try formatting both linux partitions, merging them then using fixmbr to boot windows. good idea?09:39
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phaedrus44hhmmm...i keep doing that and then when i reboot and mount   "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"  it asks for filesystem type09:39
VirogenesisDoes anyone have any experience with brctl ?09:39
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BullUKxi   .....   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271335&highlight=grub  take it from point 4 and substitute "nano" for "gedit" if your using ubuntu09:40
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gabrielhello09:40
kitcheSoH|Tony: well if you r onyl using windows it's a good idea09:40
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Virogenesishello I need to setup a bridge between a ATHEROS wireless card and a ethernet card, and I am having issues, can anyone give me a hand09:41
IcemanV9kaur: same here plus desc, prod, vendor, version, serial; it shows everything.09:41
ijiiis there an easier program than LILO to load Windows or Ubuntu?09:41
bilss_mabus (useing x-win32 from windowsmachine to linux box) yes thats what i get in putty but x-win32 does connect but cannot open display gives no error message09:41
kmaynardgrub09:41
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KEA0463dirty grub09:41
Dr_williseasier? Hmm Lilo is fairly easy.. but limited09:41
kmaynardijii, grub09:41
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ucordesVirogenesis: do you use madwifi-ng?09:42
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kaurIcemanV9: i don't have these sections09:42
synjethi gabriel09:42
KEA0463geuss what09:42
Dr_willisGRUB is the next higher up on the  bootloader chain. :)09:42
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SoH|Tonykitche: ok09:42
KEA0463when i tried to install ubuntu09:42
KEA0463it said cant install because of partitioning09:42
mabusbilss_: you don't just call the guis from the terminal putty gives you, you have to have an xsession forwarded. beyond my scope09:42
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KEA0463it took me 8 hours to figure it out09:42
Dr_willisKEA0463,  got 1 hard drive?09:42
KEA0463then it said cant install base system09:43
gabrieli am a newbie and i have a problem when i want to see the network servers...  it says: "network:///" is not a valid location.09:43
IcemanV9kaur: well. that's too bad. :(09:43
tuxtuxciao a tutti09:43
bilss_mbus: ok thanks09:43
KEA0463so i switched cds and now it works09:43
Dr_willisIt pays to read some install guides first/. :)09:43
KEA0463i found that out09:43
KEA0463:(09:43
Dr_willisbad cd? hmm.. that always sucks09:43
KEA0463yeah bad cd09:43
KEA04634 of em09:43
synjetbilss_: did you use the -X option for ssh? as in ssh -X09:43
KEA0463the 5 th one worked09:43
mabusSo can somebody tell me how to set my TERM to xterm-256color when calling elinks, preferably as an alias in my profile?09:43
kaurIcemanV9: actually, i wanted to flash bios because the fan of my laptop never completely stop...09:43
kaurIcemanV9: but now i have a feeling that the fan has to work09:44
KEA0463this is the best working version of linux i tried09:44
kitchekaur: that has to do with the kernel not the bios09:44
KEA0463i tried gentoo09:44
gabrielanybody can help me please?09:44
KEA0463but it said it didnt ahve wireless support09:44
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KEA0463so i installed ubuntu09:44
kitcheKEA0463: it does if you want to install it :)09:44
KEA0463really09:44
KEA0463how?09:45
kaurkitche: what kernel should i use then? Dual core must work09:45
segfaultkaur, for dual core use 686 kernel09:45
Hattorihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27203209:45
fooHm, ok, I installed gnome-cups-manager ... and I am trying to add the network printer, but I don't see the hp officejet driver. I installed hpoj ...restarted cups, and restarted the cups manager ... still don't see the drive. What do I need to install?09:45
Hattoriwho have any clue?09:45
kitchekaur: the kernel your on now but the fan not stopping has to do with the kernel settings09:45
KEA0463i checked it said gentoo currently doesnt have wireless support09:45
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Xi_after putting in gedit -w/boot/grub/grub.conf I get a error that reads unknown option09:45
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kitcheKEA0463: it doesn't have wireless support by default you have to install everything from scratch09:46
IcemanV9kaur: there is a reason why i keep winxp to flash bios. like segfault said, use kernel-686 for dual core09:46
ucordesi really despare on this. can't anyone help? i can't get r/w rights for me sd card. not with usb card reader nor with integrated card reader09:46
z3r0xI'm trying to install mail-notification 3.0 but the configure script is looking for gnome libraries -> GNOME... configure: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries...  which package is it?09:46
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KEA0463o 2 hard 4 me09:46
kaursegfault: i use 686 but there is a problem with fan09:46
kitcheXi_: it's menu.lst not grub.conf09:46
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gabrielcan anybody help me please? I am a newbie and i have a problem when i want to see the network servers...  it says: "network:///" is not a valid location.09:46
KEA0463i new09:46
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KEA0463i am doing some C++ with ubuntu09:46
kaursegfault: it never completely stops09:46
KEA0463i figured out how to compille last night09:47
KEA0463that took me 8 hours to figure out to09:47
kmaynardgabriel, are you online?09:47
Sasuk3You can use anjuta09:47
Sasuk3gcc in console09:47
BullUKah ha! cat /proc/bus/usb/devices shows a device with a manufacturer of "HTC" ie my phone........09:47
KEA0463seems like each task takes me hours to complete09:47
Sasuk3or geany .. eclipse with plugins09:47
kmaynardlike, with your network and all, not just the net?09:47
segfaultkaur, u asked what kernel for dual core i answered, fan is an acpi issue i think09:47
gabrielyes kmaynard09:47
Sasuk3KEA046309:47
Xi_still  getting the same effect with menu.lst09:47
Dr_willisit pays to read. :P09:47
Dr_willisand read read read read...09:47
kaursegfault: ok. Any ideas?09:47
TheGateKeeperKEA0463: it's called learning lol09:47
KEA0463yeah09:47
Hattorihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- anybody has any idea how to fix that??09:48
kitcheXi_: are you gksudoing or not?09:48
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kmaynardgabriel, is it a new dapper install, or did you upgrade from breezy?09:48
Dr_willistldp.org guides are a good starting point.09:48
KEA0463i must be a slow learner09:48
segfaultkaur, not really, google for ur laptop, its likely someone else has had a similar experience09:48
Dr_willisdont be 'task focused' read just to get a over all picture09:48
KEA0463or somefin09:48
BullUKhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1403948&postcount=35 makes sobering reading :-(09:48
gabrielthis is a ubuntu christian edition but i didnt have that problem with ubuntu09:48
KEA0463cause windows never took me this long to figure out09:48
kmaynardah ha09:48
TheGateKeeperKEA0463: a lot faster when ask questions in irc, use the wiki & forums09:48
Dr_williswindows trains peole to be 'task focused' not 'fundamental skills' focused09:48
kaursegfault: unfortunately my laptop is quite unknown09:48
ucordesgabriel: a christian edition?09:48
KEA0463oh i see09:49
Dr_willisyou learnhow to do THIS in windows.. and have no clue about what you just did..09:49
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ithielUbuntu Christian Edition? wtf?09:49
kyaneoshi09:49
FunnyLookinHatgabriel, do you mean ichtux?09:49
kyaneosi have a problem09:49
kmaynardgabriel, you may want to try official dapper...UCE is pretty new, as is its creator09:49
gabrielyes09:49
Xi_k, when I do what it says on the link I try the mount /boot command and I can't fain /boot09:49
ithielwhat is this, Linux groomed for censorship and oppression?09:49
kmaynardthen go back and add UCE apps09:49
fre4kanyone have any idea about siocaddrt:network is unreachable09:49
kyaneos(nautilus:8527): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:09:49
TheGateKeeperKEA0463: a collection of bits & pieces I found usefull ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes09:49
ucordesgabriel what is that?09:49
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psylocybehey, how can i play mp3 files in amarok?09:49
kyaneosi can not launch nautilus nor some gnome programs09:49
ajax4_!easysource09:49
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:49
kitchegabriel: ask ubuntu christian edition people since that's notmade by Ubuntu09:49
KEA0463ok thanks i bookmarked it09:50
redguy!restricted > ajax4_09:50
KEA0463whats the best browser for ubuntu09:50
dyn-afk<ithiel> what is this, Linux groomed for censorship and oppression? << compared to what companies can do with a BSD licensed piece of software, Linux really is censored & oppressed09:50
segfaultpsylocybe, read site on restricted formats09:50
KEA0463when i start firefox the words look little and crappy09:50
FunnyLookinHatfor all who are curious as to what gabriel is talking about, ichtux is a livecd based on kubuntu (I think) that has bible software installed on it.  It is a part of crosswire.org and the sword project.09:50
kitcheKEA0463: umm it depends on preference it's easy to just try out browsers09:50
KEA0463k09:50
gabrieli dont know to much of this.. i am a newbie, i dont know what is a dapper09:50
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kyaneoscan somebody help me? please09:51
TonrenHey guys, I'm getting lots of garbled images in FireFox.  What's the deal??09:51
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TheGateKeeperKEA0463: you can modify fonts09:51
IcemanV9gabriel: it would be better to install ubuntu, then add programs that are in christian edition09:51
segfault!ask > kyaneos09:51
KEA0463ko09:51
KEA0463ok09:51
KEA0463i know09:51
TheGateKeeperKEA0463: http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#intro09:51
KEA0463i seem cant find the font i like09:51
mvargashabla hispana?09:51
Hattorihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- who can read here please and tell me how to fix?09:51
KEA0463i am picky09:51
synjet!es>mvargas09:51
KEA0463with browsers09:51
gabrielok, but ...  no idea whit that error?                "network:///" is not a valid location.09:51
FunnyLookinHatgabriel, all yo uhave to do is install regular ubuntu and then install what is called "gnomesword"09:51
carmanOSthere a new version of opera, but it won install because it needs a qt lib that not in the repos, is the ubuntu opera patched and safe to use?09:52
kyaneosi can launch nautilus09:52
mvargassynjet09:52
mvargashello09:52
TheGateKeepercan't do much about picky lol09:52
KEA0463yeah i am hard to please09:52
Dr_williscarmanOS,  ya could go to the opera page and download the staticaly compiled one..09:52
kyaneos(nautilus:8527): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:09:52
KEA0463i am a windows brat09:52
kyaneoswhat can i do?09:52
carmanOSDr_willis: great, thanks09:52
gabrielbut christian edition have parental control and all that stuff included09:52
TheGateKeeperwe all have our crosses to bare09:53
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Hattorihello? do you see me? or just ignoring?09:53
synjethi mvargas09:53
gabrielprotection for the kids09:53
fooHattori: We're probably busy.09:53
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mirakdoes dapper have the lastest nvidia drivers ?09:53
Hattorii c09:53
IcemanV9gabriel: it's easy to install dansguardian09:53
czer323mirak> no, you have to build them.09:53
Hattorithat topic could be a challenge for you, give it a try ;}09:53
KEA0463i like anjuta IED09:53
mirakczer323: why ?09:53
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KEA0463good for compiling09:53
czer323mirak> because dapper doesn't have them yet....  What do you want me to say.09:54
gabrielok, thanks folks09:54
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kyaneos(nautilus:8195): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:09:54
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rem__.09:54
willys_fueguinohello.....09:54
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TheGateKeeperKEA0463: if you are compiling on ubuntu you probable want to install build-essential09:54
kyaneosi can try nautilus09:54
kyaneosplease09:54
KEA0463i did09:54
IcemanV9gabriel: like "sudo aptitude install dansguardian" then you have the parental control09:55
kyaneosi can not try nautilus09:55
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mirakczer323: is it yet, or never,09:55
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TheGateKeeperKEA0463: :-)09:55
Xi_so this is what I'm doing, I go, 'sudo bash' 'passwrd', 'mount /boot' and I get an error telling me I can't find\ it09:55
KEA0463i have spent last 72 hours getting kinks out09:55
gabrielok, thank u IcemanV909:55
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knixtechwhat would happen if I do this? iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 808009:55
KEA0463its starting to work good now09:55
czer323mirak> probaby yet.  It's still beta.09:55
willys_fueguinoI need to know if its possible to install a game from a live dvd distro to ubuntu and if it wil work later when running ubuntu...09:55
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kitcheXi_: whya re you doing sudo bash?09:55
gabrielc u around...09:55
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czer323mirak> the nvidia drivers are still beta from what i understood.09:55
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ithielhmm09:56
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Gizmo_the_Great1how do I access a shared folder on Box1 from my Laptop, Box2?09:56
Stormx2Xi_: mount /boot? Usually you'd do something like mount /dev/hda5 /boot09:56
KEA0463does ubuntu have the biggest support base09:56
kitche!samba > Gizmo_the_Great109:56
TheGateKeeperGizmo_the_Great1: if both are linux nfs09:56
Stormx2KEA0463: out of what?09:56
KEA0463for a linux distro09:56
ithieldyn-afk: are you a BSD supporter?09:56
Stormx2KEA0463: I suppose so.09:57
Stormx2KEA0463: For desktop linux, yes.09:57
KEA0463k09:57
kitcheKEA0463: no Gentoo has the biggest support but then again they hate rest of the distros09:57
KEA0463thats good09:57
Gizmo_the_Great1TheGateKeeper: Both Ubuntu LTS09:57
dyn-afkithiel: yup09:57
Stormx2gentoo has a support base?09:57
dyn-afkwhy?09:57
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Stormx2do you mean the elite club? XD09:57
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TheGateKeeperGizmo_the_Great1: use nfs then09:57
ithieldyn-afk: FreeBSD? (That would be my preference if I used BSD)09:57
Xi_all I know is that procedure on the link doesn't work, neither does taking the procedure from step 409:57
nexeusI new to linux so far i found ubuntu easiest to understand09:57
TheGateKeeper!nfs09:57
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.09:57
ithieldyn-afk: curiousity.09:57
KEA0463oh so ubuntu us best for new linux users09:57
nexeuscurrently trying suse09:57
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Gizmo_the_Great1TheGateKeeper: use nfs? how? where do I find that?09:57
TheGateKeeper!nfs > Gizmo_the_Great109:58
KEA0463but gentoo is for advanced users09:58
kitcheNFS is very insecure just so you know Gizmo_the_Great109:58
dyn-afkFreeBSD is nice09:58
Stormx2KEA0463: Not necesserily. Some linux distros are meant for people switching from windows with little skill with computers.09:58
dyn-afkNetBSD is a bit more of a "challenge"09:58
TheGateKeeperGizmo_the_Great1: read the ubotu pm or above ^^^09:58
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Gizmo_the_Great1kitche: it's only in the home and the wireless is WPA encrypted anyway09:58
dyn-afkyou need to do a lot of manual configuring09:58
califfohi all, I'm compiling mplayerplug-in and while doing ./configure I get this error: checking for MOZPLUG... configure: WARNING: firefox-plugin not found ; can anyone help me, please?09:58
Stormx2KEA0463: ubuntu is in the middle. It can be very easy to use but you can do all sorts of complex stuff with it09:58
dyn-afkbut I'd rather install ubuntu on my notebook09:58
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TheGateKeeperright catch you latter folks09:59
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dyn-afkand freebsd or debian on my servers09:59
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KEA0463is gentoo hard to learn09:59
remo287hello room09:59
KEA0463or just different concepts09:59
TheGateKeeperKEA0463: Gizmo_the_Great1 good luck :-)09:59
dyn-afkI'd rather install bsd on a sun sparc machine instead of linux09:59
ciangohi09:59
AsturioDoes anybody knows about udev and hal and dbus in Dapper?   The Links in /dev/?09:59
Stormx2KEA0463: Put it this way, you want have used linux for a little while before you try gentoo. Its an awful lot of compiling and customization09:59
mabusSo can somebody tell me how to set my TERM to xterm-256color when calling elinks, preferably as an alias in my profile?09:59
ithieldyn-afk: heh, netbsd is for when you have that toaster that MUST run Unix.09:59
dyn-afkbut I think I'm going to test how ubuntu is doing on a sun blade 100 (sparc64 architecture)09:59
AsturioHello There---09:59
Stormx2hi remo28709:59
kitcheKEA0463: gentoo is harder then most distros but then again LFS is harder09:59
ciangoi have a little problem with my alsa ... (i think that is)09:59
remo287hi stormx09:59
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ithieldyn-afk: for a server, I like debian/gentoo (for certain circumstances)/FreeBSD10:00
dyn-afkopenbsd is btw the OS to go for a sun sparcstation 4 or 510:00
ciangowhen i run mplayer, console:10:00
KEA0463how will i know when i am ready for gentoo10:00
ciangomplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:00
kitche!offtopic10:00
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:00
KEA04633 years?10:00
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remo287storm r u ther10:00
Stormx2ciango: Did you compile it?10:01
ChaosFanKEA0463: you're never "ready" for gentoo. try it or leave it.10:01
Hattorihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- anybody has any idea how to fix that??10:01
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Stormx2remo287: Yeah I am, whats the problem?10:01
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ithielChaosFan: both? lol :P10:01
ciangono i download mplayer deb10:01
ciangoform synaptic10:01
KEA0463ok i left it cause i couldnt get a internet connection10:01
czer323KEA0463, Gentoo is just a huge learning experience.  If you want to learn a ton of useless computer stuff, then try gentoo. ;)10:01
KEA0463with ubuntu i could10:01
Xi_hmmm10:01
remo287myne is not a problem storm10:01
ciangobefore this error mplayer is good10:01
remo287does linux have viruses10:02
Gizmo_the_Great1how do I tell if Samba is installed?10:02
ithiela ton of useless computer stuff...gentoo...yeah...sounds about right. You also forgot that it qualifies you as a master of the art of "Computer Ricing"10:02
Stormx2remo287: Technically, no.10:02
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KEA0463so gentoo is for people who like to work alot10:02
remo287storms u might think tht myne is a silly question10:02
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ciangowho is ready to help me?10:02
KEA0463and get headaches10:02
Stormx2remo287: Theres proof-of-concepts around, but people don't write linux viruses really....10:02
califfohi all, I'm compiling mplayerplug-in and while doing ./configure I get this error: checking for MOZPLUG... configure: WARNING: firefox-plugin not found ; can anyone help me, please?10:02
dyn-afk<Gizmo_the_Great1> how do I tell if Samba is installed? << start synaptic and search for it, it'll tell you if it's installed or not :)10:02
remo287why storm10:02
IcemanV9remo287: <knock on wood> so far no viruses for linux10:02
SportChickin 1810:02
Chozabuhey yall, ive got a prob i really cant fix - if anyone could help it would be amazing!10:02
czer323KEA0463, don't get me wrong.  it's an excellent distro.  It's just had  a track record of being extremely hard to install.   because you have to KNOW everything, in order to tell it to install.10:03
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Stormx2remo287: Because sensible linux users don't run as root, and windows users do.10:03
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dyn-afk<remo287> does linux have viruses << not at the moment10:03
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remo287yaa but viruses r just programs arent they10:03
ithielwhy write virii/worms for Linux? it's pointless. it is like making a bomb that only hurts african pygmies.10:03
Chozabuive been at uni for a lil over a week - windows works fine on the network, but ubuntu does not get an IP10:03
ithielwho happen to know how to hide from radiation.10:03
=== ciango who can help me!
KEA0463yeah i onlu used the gentoo live-cd10:03
dyn-afkmost linux virusses are very simple, they are just scripts you have to allow to run10:03
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ithieldyn-afk: *cough* typically under root.10:03
dyn-afkand they can only affect the user environment of the user that is running them10:03
KEA0463linux users write viruses for windows?10:03
Stormx2remo287: Yes, but they need privilages to do any harm. And plus, virus writers attack the easiest and by far the biggest target - windows users10:04
willys_fueguinoI need to know if its possible to install a game from a live dvd distro to ubuntu and if it wil work later when running ubuntu...10:04
willys_fueguinoI need to know if its possible to install a game from a live dvd distro to ubuntu and if it wil work later when running ubuntu...10:04
Chozabuif i try running 'sudo dhclient' after a few attempts it gets 'No DHCPOFFERS received.'10:04
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JuhazStormx2, sensible windows users don't run as root either. there just aren't many of those10:04
remo287yaa storm i read tht article which is on the simmilar basis10:04
dyn-afkKEA0463: windows is more like a virus >:P10:04
ithieldyn-afk: but that would lead to the reasoning of why Ubuntu doesn't really allow root.10:04
Stormx2Juhaz: Exactly.10:04
Xi_k so I'm in menu.lst, now what should I do?10:04
=== ciango no matter, buehh bye ;)
Stormx2willys_fueguino: Why do that?10:04
ithielJuhaz: Windows has root? Color me surprised :)10:04
dyn-afkithiel no that's not really the reason10:04
kmaynardwillys_fueguino, what game? is it in the dapper repositories?10:04
KEA0463i gotta install wine10:04
czer323Juhaz> all windows is ran as "root"  Can you delete soemthing from the system32 file? yes.10:04
ithieldyn-afk: that and shootus selfus in the footus.10:04
Stormx2ithiel: Well, it has admin.10:04
KEA0463i havnt been able to figure out how to use wine yet10:04
ithielAdministrator. yay.10:05
KEA0463to big of a learning curve10:05
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Stormx2KEA0463: its a bit tricky...10:05
dyn-afkone should always run as a user and do only root stuff when necessary10:05
smaxhi guys10:05
nexeus!wine10:05
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:05
Juhazithiel, no, but it has "administrator"10:05
czer323!sudo10:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:05
ithielindee.d10:05
AmukaNukHello. I am trying to install Ubuntu on my computer. It's supposed to be a multiboot with Win XP. But when i enter grub after installation it won't run any of my partitions. What am I doing wrong?10:05
ithielhmm.10:05
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kitcheKEA0463: to run wine you open up a terminal and do wine <program>10:05
dyn-afkif you use su that means you start an entire session as root10:05
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willys_fueguinokmaynard, yeap. But my internet conection is so slow that I had to get them on a dvd10:05
smaxi installed build-essential and libglib2.0  and the make utility still says glib.h  does not exist10:05
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dyn-afkit has a disadvantage and an advantage over using sudo though10:05
Stormx2KEA0463: Half the problems people have with wine is because they aren't calling it correctly...10:05
remo287thanks stormx2 for clarifying my doubt10:05
kitcheAmukaNuk: your menu.lst is mostly setup wrong10:05
kmaynardwillys_fueguino, what game?10:05
dyn-afkwith sudo you can specify what can be run with root rights and such :)10:06
remo287so u say tht we can expect viruses in future10:06
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czer323sudo -s will get you to root as well.10:06
AmukaNukkitche: k, would you happen to know a good tutorial/faq for setting it up?10:06
samotanyone can give me a descent settings-file for beryl so that I won't have to find everything myself?10:06
dyn-afkbut the problem with sudo: it uses the same password as the ordinary user account10:06
kitche!grub10:06
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:06
kitcheAmukaNuk: there you go10:06
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willys_fueguinokmaynard, enemy territory, torcs, vdrift, counter strike source etc,etc,etc.....10:06
KEA0463ok so i just alt-F2 type in wine10:06
remo287yes dyn-afk u r right i too have the same doubt10:06
Stormx2remo287: Theres an excellent article on it. I can't remember where it is though. Trust me though, people don't write viruses for linux. Its too difficult and it doens't make ANY sense to do so.10:06
dyn-afkif one hacks a useraccount with admin rights in UBuntu you can do the same things as root10:06
KEA0463then enter wine (program)10:06
czer323dyn-afk, That's a good thing for ubuntu.  Ubutnu DISABLE root account by default.10:07
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kmaynardwillys_fueguino, search the dvd for debs10:07
Stormx2dyn-afk: But getting the user account password is difficult.10:07
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czer323dyn-afk, So, you'd have to go in and enable it BEFORE you start using su.10:07
remo287i mean both user and sudo can have same password10:07
timruffbonjour tous le monde10:07
kitcheStormx2: umm it's very easy to get a user account password10:07
scheuriczer323: is it disabled? or has it just a password which is not mentioned anywhere?10:07
willys_fueguinokmaynard, I have a dvd with all that games, but they're in a bootable image...10:07
scheuriczer323: root cant just be disabled...10:07
dyn-afkroot isn't really disabled10:07
czer323scheuri, disabled.10:07
timruffoup sorry10:07
fooHm, ok, I installed gnome-cups-manager ... and I am trying to add the network printer, but I don't see the hp officejet driver. I installed hpoj ...restarted cups, and restarted the cups manager ... still don't see the drive. What do I need to install? (I'm on ubuntu server)10:07
Stormx2kitche: Go ahead.10:07
czer323!su10:07
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:07
willys_fueguinokmaynard, its a live dvd distro10:07
dyn-afkroot isn't used10:07
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SiliconViperYay for segmentation faults when loading Firefox!10:08
dyn-afkwith sudo passwd you can set a password for root and use the root account again10:08
rootdyn-afk: me?10:08
willys_fueguinosudo = super user do10:08
knixtechSiliconViper, horrrrray10:08
dyn-afkyeah you :P10:08
remo287stormx2 i have another doubt10:08
rootdyn-afk: I am used10:08
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winterweaverHey Hey..... could anyone assist a linux newb, plz?? (with my Nvidia drivers10:08
scheuriczer323: root is installed and working...BUT...it has a selfgenerated password which is NOT told to you10:08
dyn-afkand abused mr root :P10:08
SiliconViperwinterweaver, sure.10:08
rootdyn-afk: nah10:08
kmaynardwillys_fueguino, put the cd in the tray and start digging thru it10:08
dyn-afkyup scheuri10:08
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remo287well how to enter irc chat and create a user name???10:08
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remo287well now i m using it frm gaim10:08
Stormx2kitche: It isn't easy at all. Remember when they realised the pass was in the installation logs? That was fixed within an hour. They're not gonna sit around for 6 months with a gaping security hole are they, unless you've found one and not reported it.10:08
kmaynardsearch it for debs10:09
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winterweaverSiliconViper, thx, as I understand, I have to install Nvidia-glx and Nvidia-xconfig... right?10:09
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Stormx2remo287: Best install xchat10:09
SiliconViperwinterweaver, yep!10:09
Stormx2remo287: But otherwise use /nick WOWISUCK10:09
willys_fueguinokmaynard, if I install the games in that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??10:09
czer323scheuri, at least it's randomly generated then.  but all the same.  if someone goes to try to su root, they needt o have set the password first.  sudo -s is the same thing, with less effort.10:09
knixtechany one use smoothwall?10:09
SiliconViperwinterweaver, then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and select the 'nvidia' driver, instead of the 'nv' one.10:09
kitcheStormx2: there is ways not part of any distro but the software that the systems are running or even the user10:09
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ithielChatZilla, ftw.10:09
scheuriczer323: well...you said it is disabled...that is just not correct...:)10:09
remo287stormx2 i have already installed xchat10:10
winterweaverSiliconViper, but now here's the problem.... for some reason, if I install the one the one, the other one is uninstalled...10:10
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czer323scheuri, understood and i'll remember that for future.10:10
scheuriczer323: thanks...:)10:10
remo287i m unable to configure it10:10
Stormx2remo287: Go onto it then. In the list, select "ubuntu servers"10:10
SiliconViperwinterweaver, you only need nvidia-glx10:10
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remo287Looking up irc.freenode.net10:11
remo287* Connecting to chat.freenode.net (82.96.64.4) port 6667...10:11
remo287* Connected. Now logging in...10:11
remo287* *** Looking up your hostname...10:11
remo287* *** Checking ident10:11
remo287* *** Couldn't look up your hostname10:11
willys_fueguinokmaynard, if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??10:11
Stormx2kitche: Of course, security holes. But they get plugged as soon as their found, and unless you're hosting huge websites on a huge pipe, you're not vunerable to attack10:11
remo287hey storm it is wht it is saying10:11
dyn-afk<czer323> scheuri, at least it's randomly generated then.  but all the same.  if someone goes to try to su root, they needt o have set the password first.  sudo -s is the same thing, with less effort. << there's also sudo -i, there are differences between them and it's best to use sudo -i10:11
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Stormx2remo287: Don't paste10:11
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remo287i think i need to register10:11
Stormx2remo287: Never paste more than one line.10:11
winterweaverSiliconViper, ok ... thanks... ill give it a bash10:11
Stormx2remo287; You need to log off gaim first, fool.10:11
remo287ok sorry for pasating it10:11
Stormx2remo287: :)10:11
remo287ok sorry10:11
colin_is this the channel for noobs?10:11
Stormx2remo287: I was being sarcastic, don't worry.10:18
colin_hah cause i have a pretty simple question10:18
knixtechcolin_, shhot10:18
knixtechshoot10:18
remo287hey by the way i m not logged in actually10:18
Stormx2colin_: Go ahead, they're easier to answer =)10:18
SiliconViperwinterweaver, good luck!10:18
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colin_how do i create a shortcut on the ubuntu desktop?10:18
Dr_williscolin_,  you should fit right in. :P10:18
knixtechha10:18
colin_to connect samba to a windows network10:18
knixtechStormx2, all yours10:18
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remo287when i login to irc using gaim it actually says username not registered10:18
Stormx2colin_: Right click > create shortcut10:18
Stormx2colin_; ACK!10:18
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colin_hah10:18
willys_fueguinokmaynard, r u there??10:18
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knixtech;10:18
Stormx2colin_: create launcher10:18
colin_im sure that's not there10:18
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Dr_willishmmm10:18
colin_yeah it's launcher10:18
remo287stormx2 r u listening10:18
Stormx2colin_: Sorry, I'm in windows mode.10:18
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knixtechColin_ drag and drop?>10:18
Stormx2remo287: Freenode doesn't require registration10:18
colin_whats the line again for samba network?10:18
colin_it's smp:/ or something10:18
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colin_smb*10:18
knixtechya10:18
Stormx2nautilus smb:/// I'd assume.10:18
colin_ok10:18
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scheuricolin_: its smb://SERVER10:18
colin_i had another question10:18
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Arcad3who can gimme his ssh HOST:USERNAME:PASSWORD to his Ubuntu i will help him with anithing10:18
colin_oh yeah10:18
ramkishore_stormx2 then why does it say tht looking for host name and not found10:18
colin_i keep hearing about optimizing10:18
scheuriArcad3: nice try10:18
Arcad3PM me:D10:18
knixtechAnyone know how to redirect traffic from 80 to 8080?10:18
Virogenesishow do I disable promiscuous mode ??!?!?! and what the hell does that mode do?10:18
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Stormx2ramkishore_: I don't know, I guess it means he's still logged into irc from GAIM10:18
THX-1138Hi apokyphos10:18
colin_first is that something you need to do on a ppc mac10:18
kstorhas anyone set up aptana on ubuntu successfully?10:18
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scheuriVirogenesis: this mode is not enabled by default unless you started a too/application with root-priviliges that does that mode10:18
colin_and second is that the reason my dvds play choppy or is it because i have a 500mhz processor?/10:18
ramkishore_yaa i m still logged frm gaim iand i m able to talk using another id10:18
Lunar_Lamphow can i find out what kind of ram i have installed (e.g. voltage speeds etc)?10:18
knixtechWho here wants to get a ubuntu tattoo?10:18
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knixtechi do i do10:18
Stormx2knixtech: iptables I guess, but not sure how, no. You could do it in your router settings...10:18
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Virogenesisscheuri: that mode got enabled when I added the device in the BRIDGE...10:18
scheuriVirogenesis: that mode makes your network card listening to ALL traffic which comes to that card...10:18
knixtechStormx2, ty, i am trying to do it on smoothwall thou10:18
Stormx2knixtech: Thats a firewall? OK, Hold on./10:18
scheuriVirogenesis: bridge? you are using your ubuntu as router?10:18
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Virogenesisscheuri: hm, so that has nothing to do with people not seeing each other inside the bridge, and yes I am using it as a router10:18
knixtechStormx2, ya, noone in the irc for it is there10:18
THX-1138Lunar_Lamp - lshw10:18
willys_fueguinokmaynard, if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??10:18
Stormx2knixtech: Haha. I'll install it, just give me a min...10:18
knixtechkk10:18
ramkishore_hey some one say ithonk there exists a shot cut for not typing names wht is it?10:18
scheuriVirogenesis: promiscoues means that your card is listening to all traffic, instead of listening to traffic adressed to the card only and rejecting the rest10:18
Stormx2ramkishore_: tab.10:18
apokryphosLunar_Lamp: perhaps hwinfo10:18
knixtechStormx2, i have dansguardian running on it10:18
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ramkishore_sorry fotr tht silly question10:18
Arcad3who wants remote help PM me with ssh HOST:PASSWORD:USER:D10:18
THX-1138Shortcut for nick comepletion is backspace10:18
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Stormx2ramkishore_: please take time to type your sentences carefully...10:18
Virogenesisscheuri: could that be the cause people do not see each other from other parts of the bridge?10:18
scheuriArcad3: by all due respect...but...that is not nice10:18
meatfaceCan anyone in here answer me a question about alsa?10:18
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Virogenesisscheuri: I guess not...10:18
scheuriVirogenesis: I doubt it actually...but...I cant say for sure10:18
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Arcad3i vill help10:18
l_rhello10:18
ramkishore_Stormx2, hey why did u say tht ??10:18
willys_fueguinocan someone respond if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??10:18
Stormx2meatface: Don't ask to ask, just ask!10:18
Virogenesisscheuri: that actually sounds like something that should be enabled on the other network card :D other than the one that has it enabled10:18
dyn-afk<Virogenesis> scheuri: could that be the cause people do not see each other from other parts of the bridge? << no10:18
detraHello ... error: dependency is not satisfiable:  ... What does that mean ? Anyone knows ?10:18
we2by??10:18
l_ris there skype 1.3 available somewhere for ubuntu 6.06?10:18
we2byI've already identified myself10:18
we2by:\10:18
dyn-afken bridge is meant to connect 2 networks together as one10:18
ramkishore_Stormx2, i mean why should i take time10:18
Arcad3use gaim for skype accounts10:18
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apokryphosdetra: you're installing a package that requires a package that you do not have10:18
ifireballwhat's up with security.ubutu.com? its slow as hell! are there any mirrors for it?10:18
Virogenesisdyn-afk: should that be enabled on both cards in a bridge ?10:18
willys_fueguinocan someone respond if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??10:18
dyn-afkso users in both networks can see eachother and access the same resources10:18
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Stormx2ramkishore_: Because we like to keep a fairly high standard of niceness in this channel. If everyone constantly shortened words, misspelt or repeated words, we'd be trading warez in a week.10:18
l_rArcad3, gaim does not support voice calls10:18
kstorhas anyone setup aptana (www.aptana.com) on ubuntu successfully10:18
meatfaceIt seems to me that it is freezing my gui. after the login promt my desktop will start to come up, then it just freezes. If I disable sound in the user privileges, everthing boots fine!10:18
pittiifireball: the normal mirrors have them as well10:18
detraapokryphos, Well my problem is that it says libasound2 ... And I got libasound2 and libasound2-dev and libasound2-doc ....10:19
Xi_k grub still isn't working properly after changing my menu.lst file10:19
ramkishore_ok then mr.STormx2 thanks for your nice words10:19
dyn-afkpromiscoues means that your card is listening to all traffic, instead of listening to traffic adressed to the card only and rejecting the rest << that means that the networkcard has to have the promiscous mode10:19
Stormx2ramkishore_: I don't know if that was sarcastic or not, but thank you!10:19
apokryphosdetra: "it says"? What, exactly? Where? Can you pastebin the full output?10:19
dyn-afkVirogenesis: why would you want to use a bridge?10:19
Virogenesisdyn-afk: how do I check if I have enabled it on my card?10:19
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: router, and a wireless router10:19
steveireHey, Aptitude wants to uninstall firefox-dom-inspector, saying it's unused, but I am clearly using it. How do I protect it?10:19
Virogenesisdyn-afk: connecting a local area network with a Wireless network10:20
detraapokryphos, No ... Cause its when I open an .deb file it says it ...10:20
dyn-afkyou can check the specifications from the hardware manufacturer if the card support promiscous mode or not10:20
apokryphosdetra: open or try to install it?10:20
willys_fueguinocan someone respond if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??10:20
ramkishore_Stormx2, well i was surcastic in typing tht it is my usual practice to use shortcuts while i type any way thanks for the help u have offerd10:20
willys_fueguinocan someone respond if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??10:20
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ifireballpitti: afaik if that was true APT (update-mgr) would be d/ling from my "normal" repo right now, am I wrong here?10:20
Stormx2steveire: You can force its version in synaptic, but if apt wants to uninstall it, it has a good reason. Probably a firefox upgrade which includes the dom inspector, or something.10:20
dyn-afktry man ifconfig Virogenesis10:20
zool2005evening all10:20
Virogenesisdyn-afk: sure...10:20
dyn-afkyou can create a bridge with ifconfig10:20
Stormx2willys_fueguino: What games?10:21
pittiifireball: archive mirrors lag behind a day or two10:21
detraapokryphos, When its open ... I'm not able to click install ... Cause it says that error ... I can only close it again ...10:21
Stormx2evening zool200510:21
apokryphoswillys_fueguino: what are you talking about? What games? Are you talking about installing from the Ubuntu LiveDVD to your installed Ubuntu?10:21
synjet       768'[10:21
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kothz!768'[10:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 768'[ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:21
pittiifireball: but if security is after archive in your apt sources, the mirror is prefered, yes10:21
Virogenesisdyn-afk: how do you create a bridge with ifconfig !?10:21
Xi_can anyone give me a link or something so that I can figure out how to get windows back into my grub bootloader options, the ubuntu kernels as nice as they are aren't that useful10:21
ramkishore_hey how to play games on ubuntu10:21
kothzWell, now there's a surprise :)10:21
apokryphosdetra: /msg ubotu deb10:21
adioe3_Kubuntu won't save the Master Channel after reboot, why? How to fix this?10:21
habeebHello, can you try this online radio link and see if you can listen to the program? So that I can find out, if my firefox has the problem or the radio. http://www.live24.gr/radio/generic/index.jsp?sID=8410:21
detraapokryphos, huh ?10:21
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Stormx2apokryphos: Maybe its a bot... He asked the same thing 30 mins ago and never checked back for an answer.10:21
zool2005I've installed the server edition on an old laptop and need to install X from a CD, I've added the cd to repos using apt-cdrom but I can't install any packages with apt-get. Does anyone have any idea?10:21
apokryphosXi_: how did ubuntu erase it, apparently?10:21
dyn-afkin freebsd you could create a bridge device called br010:22
apokryphosStormx2: I see; well, we'll kick if he asks again.10:22
dyn-afkI've seen it in debian too so it must be the same in ubuntu10:22
fluvvellwillys_fueguino; which dvd ?10:22
apokryphosdetra: type /msg ubotu deb    in here10:22
Virogenesisdyn-afk: you use brctl to do that...10:22
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steveireStormx2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25756/10:22
detraapokryphos, That didn't help me a lot ...10:22
ramkishore_hello can any one say how to play games like nfs on ubuntu??10:23
apokryphosdetra: it tells you how to install the package; no need to 'open' it10:23
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willys_fueguinoapokryphos, Stormx2, nop. I have another distro (I think its called aureox or something like that), and I want to install "X" amount of games from there to my ubuntu..10:23
willys_fueguinoif I do that they'll work later when I come bak to ubuntu??10:23
dyn-afkok, then try brctl Virogenesis :)10:23
Xi_didn't erase it, I think when grub updated it just overwrote my windows bootloader to ubuntu 26 even though I have an ubuntu 27 there already (or visa versa)10:23
ifireballpitti: that is the situation by default afaik, I suppose I should jusider just removing security.u.c from the sources.list alltogether though that10:23
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apokryphoswillys_fueguino: I have no idea about that distro. You'll perhaps just need to compile from source, in which case no, you can't use the live dvd10:23
steveireStormx2: It is being used an it shouldn't be removed. I allowed it to remove the package before, and it took the tool away from me in ff10:23
fluvvellwillys_fueguino; no.10:23
apokryphoswillys_fueguino: you'll have to get the source from the net10:23
dyn-afkI know it can be done by default in freebsd with ifconfig10:23
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: I made the bridge but it doesnt work from peers from other parts of bridge10:23
dyn-afkjust like creating a tunnel device10:24
detraapokryphos, It just tells me to double click it ...10:24
habeebHello, can you try this online radio link and see if you can listen to the program? So that I can find out, if my firefox has the problem or the radio. http://www.live24.gr/radio/generic/index.jsp?sID=8410:24
dephTonesIs there a WINE pkg offered for the AMD x64 edition?10:24
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dyn-afkare they firewalled Virogenesis ?10:24
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ifireballpitti: has it been slow for everyone the last few weeks?10:24
apokryphosXi_: well perhaps you can ask someone in here nicely for their grub conf file if they're running windows, and you can improvise10:24
fluvvellwillys_fueguino; you're talking about running a live distro, then installing games while in that distro. Where is it going to install them?10:24
Virogenesisdyn-afk: Im not sure...10:24
pittiifireball: no idea, works quite fine for me10:24
fluvvellwillys_fueguino; live distro's normally run in ram.10:24
apokryphosdetra: in the terminal: sudo dpkg -i some.deb10:24
dyn-afkthe bridge works from you to them  ?10:24
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Virogenesisdynb] 10:25
detraapokryphos, I can do that and send you the outcome ... cause that doesn't work either ...10:25
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willys_fueguinoapokryphos, and if I copy the installers after booting in that distro tomy ubuntu partition??10:25
steveirehmm, stormx2 has left. Anyone else know about this apt stuff?10:25
apokryphosdetra: please pastebin the output, then10:25
willys_fueguinoI could install them then right??10:25
detrak10:25
fluvvellwillys_fueguino; are they deb packages?10:25
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Xi_would anyone who is dual booting windows and ubuntu be willing to lend me their grub.conf file10:25
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apokryphoswillys_fueguino: no, that will not work. Use the net.10:25
dyn-afkVirogenesis ?10:25
Virogenesisdyn-afk: it works from Bridge to each other peers from bridge, but it doesnt work peer to peer from seperate parts of bridge10:25
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willys_fueguinoAn example of game is the enemy territory and the americas army10:26
Virogenesisdyn-afk: Thehre I typed it out :D heheh10:26
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apokryphosXi_: grub conf file is /boot/grub/menu.1st10:26
dyn-afklol10:26
dyn-afkok, that's weird10:26
Gizmo_the_Great1I struggling a bit. I've created a shared folder on a fat partition (called vfat). I've used smbpasswd from my Windows laptop and I can access the folders on the Ubunut box. But, I can't access it from my Ubunt laptop? Any ideas? Using samba.10:26
Virogenesisdyn-afk: I hope u got what I meant to say :D10:26
dyn-afkI did :)10:26
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ramankishorehello any one can say how to play games like nfs on ubuntu10:26
Xi_yeah, thats what I mean10:26
detra!paste10:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:26
Virogenesisdyn-afk: OH Wait, now its not working at all...10:26
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dyn-afk:|10:27
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LazyAngelis it just me, or is there other people that are having problems with the "software updates" (Not synaptics but the one that tells you when you need to update) Gnome crashes when i try to run it :(10:27
meatfaceDoes anyone know how to access a flash drive that is formatted fat32. I can see it and read from it, but writing files to it does not happen.10:27
detraapokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25757/10:27
Virogenesisdyn-afk: dead again... God damn it... ima try to restart the damn thing again, be here for a few more mins ima get back to u10:27
Virogenesisdyn-afk: dead again... God damn it... ima try to restart the damn thing again, be here for a few more mins ima get back to u10:27
willys_fueguinofluvvell, apokryphos, then the only thing to do is use VMware to play while Im in my ubuntu right??10:27
ladydoor!language10:28
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:28
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elliotboneywho used bad language10:28
LazyAngelmetaface: try cat /etc/mtab and see if it is mounted read only10:28
fluvvellwillys_fueguino; well thats one way.  Is the game you're after available for debian?10:28
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willys_fueguinofluvvell, I dont know yet... I didnt check10:28
willys_fueguino(I'll do that now)10:29
FlamekebabCan anyone advise me on PEAP and LEAP under Dapper?10:29
willys_fueguinobrb10:29
THX-1138in a terminal what is the print command?10:29
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l_ris there skype 1.3 available somewhere for ubuntu 6.06?10:29
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earthianhello10:29
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DavkompHello10:30
meatfaceHere is the output that I get after cat /etc/mtab  --->/dev/sda1 /media/STICK vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1002,gid=1002,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 010:30
quiet.10:30
Virogenesisdyn-afk: ok now its pinging from Bridge server to each peers10:30
Virogenesisdyn-afk: lemme check peer to peer10:30
THX-1138man <terminalprint> file?10:30
habeebHello, can you try this online radio link and see if you can listen to the program? So that I can find out, if my firefox has the problem or the radio. http://www.live24.gr/radio/generic/index.jsp?sID=8410:30
Virogenesisdyn-afk: no, still doesnt work...10:30
dyn-afkVirogenesis you might want to take a look at the following site: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Main_Page and more particular at the following article: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge10:30
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earthiani have a quite hard question: WHY top shows ~950 mb used RAM and gnome-system-monitor shows only like 600mb used. (some xfce4 plugins show the same as gnome)?????10:31
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: Funny thing is that everytime I do ANYtHING to a eth1 like change ip or up or down I get a message saying promiscuous mode enabled10:31
zool2005can I install a WM from CD using apt-get?10:31
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Gizmo_the_Great1I've created a shared folder on a fat partition (called vfat) on my Ubuntu box. I can access it fine from my Windows laptop.  But not from my other laptop thats running Ubuntu. I can navigate to it, but then it says its inaccessible and 'perhaps it's been deleted' but it hasn't. ????10:31
earthianand the buffers = 4 MB10:31
elliotboneywill the grub boot option of "ide=nodma" really slow down my laptop10:31
Davkompexit10:31
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: that doesn't happen when I do anything to the ath0 card10:31
dyn-afkdid you give any ip-address to the bridge?10:32
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Flamekebabhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270369 - anyone got anything they could add to that? I'm trying to access my university's wireless, which requires PEAP or LEAP10:32
detraapokryphos, Can you figure it out ?10:32
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: yes10:32
dabugashi10:33
apokryphosdetra: where are you getting that gnash package from?10:33
dyn-afkVirogenesis check the second link I gave you, it says something about getting an ip-address via a dhcp server on a *dsl connection10:33
Virogenesisdyn-afk: thanx, ill give it a look :)10:33
detraapokryphos, I dl it from ftp.sunsite.dk10:33
dyn-afkdon't give any ip-addresses to a bridge though10:33
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dabugasi can't seem to enable dma. various forums mentioned that it's kernel related, but i haven't updated my kernel. any other ideas?10:33
Virogenesisdyn-afk: really?10:33
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vieirarWhat package is needed to get libnpsoplugin.so10:33
dyn-afkyou're connecting 2 interfaces so there's no need for IP-addresses10:33
Virogenesisdyn-afk: Why not ?10:33
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public_voidhttp://www.live24.gr/radio/generic/index.jsp?sID=84 doesn't seem to be working for me either10:34
dyn-afknormally it's a physical connection10:34
Virogenesisdyn-afk: that pc is going to have to be a router too...10:34
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apokryphosdetra: you have some depends that just aren't satisfied10:34
dyn-afkin this case it's done in the software10:34
THX-1138dabugas - what have you tried so far?10:34
detraapokryphos, And that means ?10:34
dyn-afkin that case Virogenesis turn it into a router and just forget the entire bridge idea :P10:34
zool2005i need to install a light wm from a cd on a laptop without an internet connection. Is it possible?10:34
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apokryphosdetra: you require a package that you do not have10:34
xdxhi10:34
apokryphos!depends10:34
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about depends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
detra!depends10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about depends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
apokryphosnevermind that10:35
dyn-afkuse eth0 (which is prolly the wired connection) for the *dsl/cable connection10:35
dabugasTHX-1138, nothing. i just booted my pc and found myself dma-less. i can only suspect a new dvd drive (but hdparm doesn't work on my harddisk either).10:35
detraapokryphos, k ... But can you figure out which ?10:35
apokryphosdetra: the ones it says10:35
dyn-afkand use a router so that everything on eth1 (which prolly is wifi) can use the internet10:35
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: id love to10:35
THX-1138dabugus - hdparm isn't loaded??10:35
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: but, I don't have money for another pc :)10:35
detraapokryphos, aight I will try10:35
detraapokryphos, thx...10:35
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: ath0 is wifi eth1 is lan and eth0 is internet10:36
THX-1138dabugas - syntax error in the file??10:36
dyn-afkok10:36
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vieirarWhat package is needed to get libnpsoplugin.so?10:36
Virogenesisdyn-afk: thanx for help though10:36
dabugasTHX-1138, nope. manually typing sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda fails with: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted10:36
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dyn-afketh0 should be the input for the router and ath0 and eth1 are behind the router10:36
dyn-afkuse something like NAT10:36
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xdxxlibs (> 4.1.0)10:37
xdxhow can i update xlibs ?!10:37
dyn-afkI've got to go right now, bbl10:37
dyn-afkgood luck to you Virogenesis :)10:37
THX-1138dabugas - check perms. maybe cp your bak over the edited file?10:37
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Virogenesisdyn-afk: thank you ! :) and have fun10:37
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dabugasTHX-1138, if you mean hdparm.conf, that can't be it... because i _should_ be able to do it manually regardless of the file. or am i mistaken?10:38
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THX-1138dabugas - If there is a conflict which takes precedence?10:39
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dabugasTHX-1138, like? how can i find out?10:39
THX-1138dabugas - I wonder if there is only one response10:39
Gizmo_the_Great1I've created a shared folder on a fat partition (called vfat) on my Ubuntu box. I can access it fine from my Windows laptop.  But not from my other laptop thats running Ubuntu. I can navigate to it, but then it says its inaccessible and 'perhaps it's been deleted' but it hasn't. ????10:39
THX-1138dabugas - use the backup file copy over the original.10:40
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ZaggynlI can't wait until the new nvidia driver goes stable10:41
detraAnybody know which package libgnash0 is in ?10:41
david83how to install software without *.deb File that doesn't crash the whole system?10:41
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dyn-afkok, so no bbl :P10:42
Knifawhile installing ubuntu the install seems to stop at "Retrieving file 814 of 814"10:42
Knifadoes it usually take a while?10:42
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Dr_willishmm.. the man page for 'dircolors' says the full docs are in 'info dircolors' -- but Info dircolors - just shows the man page.. :) in info format...10:42
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Knifahelloo? D:10:43
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david83hi10:43
setoooabout ubuntu-desktop, I can't install it10:44
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david83somebody who has the same problem i do? before firefox update i could watch videos on youtube.com after it says something about old flash or shockwave player but after i install the package i won't work :( and firefox is crashing much more then before :(10:45
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ladydoorsetooo: any particular reason (tell the whole channel)10:45
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david83ladydoor: because he isn't allowed to make a private chat :)10:46
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jazzrockeris there any way to flush swap space?10:46
ladydoordavid83: i meant as opposed to calling me out, like this.10:46
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jazzrockervmware-server eats ram and swap for lunch10:47
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david83ladydoor: i see10:47
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jazzrockerwhen i quit, the swap stays there... does that actually matter? or does it only impact performance when it's being used?10:47
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Niluje_hello10:48
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david83swap partition get overwriten doesn't it everytime it is used again after a reboot10:48
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david83hi Niluje_10:48
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Ben311Qustion about Linux10:49
Niluje_Can I have help with parition ?10:49
detraAnybody know which package libgnash0 is in ?10:49
Niluje_I can't use XFS partition to mount / or /home.10:49
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Ben311so I need to have a program called arudius recognize either the ath0 or eth010:49
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Ben311but I don't know the command in the terminal10:49
Ben311any hel10:49
Ben311help*10:49
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Niluje_Ben311:  look at vi /etc/network/interfaces10:51
ifireballBen311: why do you need that program?10:51
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mdkehow can I download a folder from the internet?10:51
jdrakeI have a belkin wireless G pcmcia card (F5D7010 ver 3000tt) and I have tried using ndiswrapper to get it to work, but it always seems to either crash the driver (means I have to reboot to try again) or nothing happens. Any ideas of what I can do? (I have tried most material I have found on area)10:51
Ben311ifireball: showing it to the computer tech here at my college10:52
sjmdke: wget -r URL10:52
mdkesj: I tried "wget -r url" but it didn't work10:52
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Ben311but I need it to recognize the wireless card or the lan line in order to rock the system10:52
dyn-afkmdke you can try curl10:52
sjmdke: hmmn, what got dloaded?10:52
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mdkesj: loads of weird stuff from higher level folders10:52
mdkedyn-afk: ok!10:53
dyn-afkmdke what kind of folder is it anyway?10:53
sjmdke: yes keep going inside, you would eventually have the files you want10:53
Ben311Niluje: well last time my friend did something like ath0 -h or something10:53
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dyn-afkare you using ftp or something?10:53
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Ben311I just need to know how to load it pwease10:53
mdkedyn-afk: no, http10:53
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dyn-afkok, then you want wget/curl :P10:53
david83detra: try http://search.rpmseek.com/search.html10:53
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mdkedyn-afk: can you help me with the exact command?10:54
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mdkecurl on its own just returns the html of the apache folder listing10:54
dyn-afkman curl10:54
ubuntu_hello ubuntu-folks - any PPC users?10:54
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ifireballBen311: Ubunto doesn't recognise the wireless cared for you? are you sure that arudius is available for linux? maybe its just what the tech know you need for windows and you need something else for Linux? I.e. I've been a Linux user for years and I've never heared of it...10:54
dyn-afkI know what curl can do but I don'tknow the exact command10:54
THX-1138!ppc10:55
ubotuppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.10:55
sj!curl>dyn-afk10:55
THX-1138!mac10:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:55
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dyn-afkI need to do the same as you...look at the manual :)10:55
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yourself_myselfhello!10:55
lisihi - I have an external hard drive I'd like to use with ubntu - Breezy, I think. It detects it when I plug it in but mounts it as read-only - how do I fix this to read-write?10:55
dyn-afk!curl10:55
ubotucurl: Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.15.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 164 kB, installed size 264 kB10:55
mdkedyn-afk: alright, I'll try10:55
yourself_myselfi've just noticed that the locale on my system is en_AU.UTF-810:55
yourself_myselfhow can i change that?10:55
boinkgopher? heh ..10:55
ubuntu_I need to get my powerbook G4 to run at full cpu speed with the latest ubuntu livecd... Any ideas?10:55
dyn-afkI saw something like curl -o10:55
Ben311ifireball: this question is for a different distro10:55
Flamekebab*cough*10:56
Gizmo_the_Great1I've created a shared folder on a fat partition (called vfat) on my Ubuntu box. I can access it fine from my Windows laptop.  But not from my other laptop thats running Ubuntu. I can navigate to it, but then it says its inaccessible and 'perhaps it's been deleted' but it hasn't. ????10:56
FlamekebabLEAP and PEAP?10:56
david83ubuntu: apm-Management?10:56
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ifireballBen311: A. so why are you askling on #ubuntu? B. http://arudius.sourceforge.net/ seems its a whole distro not a single program10:57
manmadhahi!Is there any command to ping all the ip address at a time?10:57
manmadhato know dead ips10:57
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jsleepermanmadha: you mean on a whole subnet?10:58
sjmanmadha: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/ipiterator10:58
manmadhajsleeper, yaa10:58
ubuntu_david83 - there doesnt seemto be any apm daemon on this?10:58
manmadhain our lan10:58
sjmanmadha: as jsleeper said, that is for a subnet10:58
dyn-afkmanmadha try a tool like nmap10:58
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jsleepermanmadha: i use nmap - nmap -sP 192.169.1.0/24 (using that subnet as example)10:58
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mdkedyn-afk: no luck with curl as yet, the manual is a bit complex.10:58
lisican anyone help me with an external hard drive?10:59
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manmadhathank u all10:59
kdean06I have a question, and I do not ask this to flame, or to create one. But I hear people claim Ubuntu "sucks" for various reasons or another, and the main reason tends to be that Ubuntu "harms" Debian. What reasons do people give when they say this?10:59
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mdkedoes anyone know how I can limit my download just to one specific folder on a server using wget?10:59
david83ubuntu_: amd or intel?10:59
david83ubuntu: maybe powernowd10:59
Ben311ifireball: because I was trying to get help?10:59
sjmdke: if you have URL as folder/folder2/folder3, it dloads the structure but only the files inside folder3 and subsequently11:00
ubuntu_david83 - erhhh, none of those... its a powerpc11:00
david83ubuntu: :) i forgot mom11:00
ithielubuntu_ lol.11:00
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david83ubuntu: try this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9281811:01
ifireballBen311: the way to install packages can be radically different between distros; suppose I've given you the way to do it on ubuntu, it might have been totally useless on your distro; you may be better off going to your distro's channel11:01
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david83ithiel: default name in ubuntu life11:02
zuuslol11:02
mdkesj: unfortunately it tries to download some enormous files which are in a totally different folder to the one I specify11:02
FlamekebabLEAP and PEAP?11:02
lisihelp! anyone?11:02
sjmdke: it shudnt.. it means you gave the wrong URL.. I guess11:02
david83lisi: ask your question11:02
segfaultlisi, if u ask a question u have a better chance of getting help11:02
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Hattorii was able to install wifi with ndiswrapper, but each time i reboot i have to do those commands: sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper; sudo ifconfig eth1 up. Any way to automate those passages at boot time?11:02
mdkesj: I'm confident of the url. :(11:03
lisi hi - I have an external hard drive I'd like to use with ubntu - Breezy, I think. It detects it when I plug it in but mounts it as read-only - how do I fix this to read-write?11:03
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david83lisi: man mount11:03
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segfaultlisi, what fs is on external hd?11:03
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ubuntu_david83 - thanks, ill try and see if it Just Works(tm). After all - it IS a Mac... :-)11:04
THX-1138lisi - man fstab11:04
segfaultlisi, but david83 has the best advice11:04
lisiI assume fat32 - could be ntfs though, how do I check?11:04
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THX-1138david83 - we are linux gurus right? - lol11:04
david83no :) i am not11:04
manmadhadavid83, if we mount it then it is read only i think11:04
david83just lazy11:04
segfaultlisi, ntfs write is experimental that could be why it gets mounted ro11:04
dyn-afkmdke try wget -r which downloads recursively, meaning it'll download everything in that directory (files, directories, etc.)11:05
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lisisegfault: ahhhhhh, that would explain it11:05
tengilwhat do i need to be able to create an audio cd out of mp3 files with k3b. now it says unknown format when i add mp3s11:05
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THX-1138lisi - sry - Don't you hate it when after repeating a quesiton there is no answer?11:05
dyn-afkyou can specify the depth so it doesn't download all the other subdirs inside the directory11:05
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lisiI assumed fat32 but ur probably right - anyway I can use this HD then?11:05
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yourself_myselfsomeone, please11:06
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yourself_myselfhow can i change system locale11:06
yourself_myself?11:06
lisiTHX-1138 - yes, but I know peolple are only here to help and giving of their own time sio I appreciate it11:06
SiliconViperHuzzah, fixed segfaulting Firefox by rebuilding it with apt-build!11:06
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mdkedyn-afk: do you know how to specify the depth? I tried, but didn't succeed11:06
david83lisi: hit mount in console it should show you all your partions including your external harddisk plus fat or ntfs11:06
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THX-1138lisi - i found a new toy today "testdisk" darn nice11:07
segfaultyourself_myself, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales (iirc)11:07
Hattorii was able to install wifi with ndiswrapper, but each time i reboot i have to do those commands: sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper; sudo ifconfig eth1 up. Any way to automate those passages at boot time?11:07
yourself_myselfthanks!11:07
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lisiI did try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk, which did seem to wrok but then popped up an error "You do not have the permissions to view contents" when it tried to open file browser11:07
yourself_myselfsegfault: this rebuilds the locales but doesn't let me choose my!11:08
david83THX: is it testdisk like hdparm?11:08
yourself_myselfhow do i tell the system, use this locale?11:08
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dyn-afkthe following command does recursive (-r) and uses a depthlevel of 2 (-l2) and saves the files in the directory "/tmp" (-P/tmp): wget -r -l2 -P/tmp ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/11:08
dyn-afkit's from the wget manual btw11:08
lisidavid83 - yes, it is ntfs :(11:08
segfaultHattori, u can easily automate that by adding a script that does to ur runlevel, but, i think there is abetter check the forums im sure some else has a similar issue11:08
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david83lisi: then reformat to vfat :)11:09
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mdkedyn-afk: it's still downloading everything11:09
dyn-afk:||11:09
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osmananyone know a good web design package for gnome on ubuntu?11:09
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dyn-afkvi :)11:09
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Shadowpillar_bluefish11:09
sjosman: nvu11:09
Shadowpillar_or nvu11:09
lisidavid83 - it comes with software pre-installed so it's recognized by Winxp - I need this to share files between my Ubntu box and other computers (not networked)11:10
dyn-afkosman just use vi and type your code11:10
osmanvi LOL11:10
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dyn-afkor use something like nvu, bluefish, quanta plus, etc.11:10
IcemanV9osman: bluefish, nvu, vi, gedit11:10
dyn-afk:P11:10
osmandoes vi support html / php with syn on?11:10
MrFeetio!beryl11:10
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.11:10
IcemanV9dyn-afk beats me to it. :P11:10
lisidavid83 - I assume reformatting would kill all this? or can I change filesystems without losing content?11:10
THX-1138david83 - I hope lisi is patient with us. - lol  http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs11:10
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david83lisi: any free space? maybe repartitioning so that you have a fat32 partion too besides the ntfs?11:11
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dyn-afk<osman> does vi support html / php with syn on? << fromwhat I've seen....yep11:11
osmanit does just tested cheers11:11
segfaultdyn-afk, osman yes it does11:11
dyn-afk* mdke asks for a tarred up copy of the folder << that would be a good solution :)11:11
lisidavid83 - ok, that could work - didn't think to do that with an external drive but why  not? Can I do that with gparted?11:11
Rockjhey. I have troubles with playing midi files. what might be wrong?11:12
osmanasnother question not really ubuntu specifically, i should know this as im a IT engineer, can i have apache and then have gnu using port 80???11:12
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david83hmm ? THX? do you know the answer?11:12
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osmanasnother question not really ubuntu specifically, i should know this as im a IT engineer, can i have apache and then have gnump3d using port 80???11:12
sureshothey l need to ask what is the syntax to using wget11:12
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dyn-afkman wget sureshot :)11:12
rem__anyon knows how to imprt audio files in rhythmbox ... it tells me that .mp3 is not an audio file ... ?! the same file works fine from another location in rhythmbox ... ?!11:12
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BlueEagleSo I've got a thomson (alcatel) speedtouch ADSL modem. This modem gets an IP from my ISP and it also gives an IP to my box. Now is there anyone that know any way to automagically check what that external IP is from my box? The webinterface of the modem is less than helpful with this tbh.,11:12
manmadhaIf we format our system .....Is root file system mount again?11:13
BlueEaglePerhaps that's off-topic. :/11:13
sureshotthanks dyn-afk dhu i should have thought of that been a bad day thanks again11:13
dyn-afkosman you can't have 2 services using the same port, that would lead to problems11:13
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Millewhy can't i move my ubuntu partition?11:13
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david83lisi: i don't have gparted but parted and sfdisk could work too11:13
THX-1138manmadha > !grub11:14
THX-1138manmadha: Did that help?11:14
lisidavid83 - ok, cool - thanks for the help!11:14
ladydoorclear11:14
rem__I guess ill continue using xmms...rhythmbox is really to complicated to use .. it doesnt play half the radios xmms plays, and the only time i was able to enter mp3 files in it I had to trick the program...I just dont remember how ... :P11:14
manmadha1m i will see...11:14
Wodgerblue traceroute should show, or just go to some firewall testing sight.11:14
manmadha!grub11:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:14
[H] 3b0Rhey im lookin for an nice system monitor applet thats easy to configure, shows cpu, ram, and hd monitor etc...11:14
osmandyn-afk, what i want to do is use gnump3d on port 80 to traverse the works firewall but i also wan to run apache, can i just redirect apache to another port or something, but make it transparent to the web user????11:14
THX-1138rem_ - "" xmms+stremtuner/streamripper.11:14
rem__yea11:15
dyn-afkBlueEagle there is a dutch site ( www.watismijnip.nl ) which can tell you what you're public ip-address is11:15
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david83lisi: i never did that so i don't know if it works but is should be. please be careful11:15
rem__I just wanted to give rhythmbox a try...but I guess Ill give up..too much hasstle ..11:15
dyn-afkit's in dutch but the pubic ip-address is very easy to spot :P11:15
dyn-afkit's like size 32 or something11:15
sjrem: tried amarok?11:15
david83ladydoor: is clear working in your irc program?11:15
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BlueEagledyn-afk: I was hoping that I could keep this internally w/o relying on a 3rd party (or second server).11:15
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rem__xmms, amarok, zinf..all fine ... I jmust wanted to give rhythmbox a try ...11:16
ladydoordavid83: you mean the ability to use /clear to clear the screen? yes. why?11:16
THX-1138rem - amarok is very good. - still has the codecs issues. but, you have most installed already right?11:16
Wodgerthere maybe some app that can tell the external IP11:16
david83clear11:16
rem__yep11:16
osmandyn-afk, what do u recommend in my situation?11:16
david83ladydoor: so you just forgot the / right?11:16
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Hattorihow to set static ip on a wifi connection?11:17
ladydoordavid83: when?11:17
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sjdavid83: :D it is like asking which command to quit? ;)11:17
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THX-1138rem_ - commandline mpg321 dump all the files in a single folder - not fancy - lol11:17
Milleanyone that know how to move the ubuntu partition?11:17
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ladydoordavid83: oh, way up there. actually, i typed it in the wrong GNU screen window.11:17
SiliconViperSo apparently while running an xfs_repair, some lost porography was moved to lost+found.11:17
ladydoordavid83: sorry.11:17
SiliconViper*pornography11:17
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david83ladydoor: sorry i cleared my screen but 2min ago you said clear11:17
Rockjwhat I'am missing when ubuntu wont play .midi files?11:18
dyn-afkyou can redirect the apache port but it's not very advisable to do so osman11:18
dyn-afkput the gnump3d on a different port11:18
dyn-afkdon't mess with ports below 1024 :)11:18
THX-1138RockJ - timidity11:18
david83Mille: what do you mean by that?11:18
osmanok dyn-afk , then the firewall will block it , cant rember wich ports are open apart from 8011:18
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rylasasinguys is there any way to save my linux? I tried installing xgl/beryl on dapper, I followed the forum posts exactly as it said, and now its broke it wont' run x is there any way to save it now or do I have to do a reinstall?11:18
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aboutbanyone know of a newb friendly website instructing how to get wireless running on compaq broadcom internal?11:19
FlamekebabCan anyone please help me with LEAP and PEAP?11:19
Milledavid83, i want to move the partition through gparted, from the live-cd. but i wont let me.11:19
dyn-afkBlueEagle the easiest way of getting the external ip-address would be to use something like www.watismijnip.nl :P11:19
sjrylasasin: do you have your /home on a separate drive?11:19
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rylasasinno11:19
david83Mille: why not just a normal install of ubuntu?11:19
Milledavid83, i've just deleted all partitions on the drive, the ubuntu partition is the only one left. i want to move it to the beginingn.11:19
THX-1138rylasasin: What happens if you edit out the references to composite in xorg.conf?11:19
dyn-afkosman you can open up ports in the firewall :)11:19
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sjrylasasin: try getting an xorg file to replace the old one11:19
Milledavid83, it's allready installed. and now i removed windows.11:20
rylasasinI cant get in ubuntu to do that11:20
osmannah im not involved with infrastucture11:20
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osman:)11:20
dyn-afkyou can try vpn or something like ssh11:20
BlueEagledyn-afk: Not when you're monitoring for the line to come back up imo. :)11:20
sjrylasasin: search for your h/w config xorg sample file online, get the URL and dload it on the broken system.. might work11:20
RockjTHX-1138: so I wont be able to have playback in xmms for midi?11:20
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definity_blap blap11:21
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RockjTHX-1138: nor in games that uses midi either? like dunelegacy?11:21
dyn-afkrem__  did you install all of the gstreamer plugins ?11:21
definity_what a good console txt editor11:21
dyn-afkvi11:21
definity_thanks11:21
THX-1138Mille - I don't know of a an open source tool. possibly reformatfirst partition  then copy ubuntu to it? else paragon makes $ util11:21
boinkjoe11:21
rylasasinhow do I do that?!?!?!11:21
RockjTHX-1138: sorry, just tested dunelegacy again, and midi works :D11:21
RockjTHX-1138:  in the game.. thanks :)11:21
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boinkjoe is easier to use than vi11:21
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david83Mille: i guess it can't be the first partition but why do you want it to be at the beginning the important thing is that you have space??11:21
THX-1138RockJ - hm - haven't really needed midi playback..11:22
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Milledavid83, cause i want to merge the space with the space after the ubuntu partition11:22
hou5tonat one point, on a previous Ubuntu install, I had the Win key set so that it opened Synaptic, but now I can't remember how I did that.  I'vfe checked the Preferences Menu options, etc, and can't find how I did that.  Any ideas?11:22
rem__fyi: the mp3 codec was recently removed because of patent issue...I guess after I Dist-upgraded Rhythmbox stopped playing mp3 ...I guess I'll look for the codecs .. :P11:22
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definity_how the hell do i use vi?11:22
dyn-afk<boink> joe is easier to use than vi << it's better to be able to use vi since vi is on every unix/linux machine you can thiink of11:22
dyn-afkby default11:23
MilleTHX-1138? was that to me? shouldn't gpart be able to move partitions? even the ubuntu partition, using it from the live-cd?11:23
dyn-afkjoe isn't11:23
david83Mille:  __space__|UBUNTU|___space____ ?11:23
RockjTHX-1138: need it for good old classics which are being remade, like dunelegacy11:23
Rockj:)11:23
dyn-afknano is also a commandline editor which is widely used11:23
Milledavid83, correct. :-)11:23
THX-1138rem_ - Is ffmpeg what you want?11:23
definity_il try that one11:23
dyn-afkthere are good reference cards on the internet for vi11:23
dyn-afkvery usable :)11:23
Milledavid83, so i want to move it to the beggning: |UBUNTU|___SPACE___ ;-)11:24
osmanok dyn-afk i just spotted the libapache-mod-mp3 , anyone used this before?11:24
rylasasinlooks like I'll have to do a whole d**n reboot. man am i P**SED11:24
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THX-1138Mille - You might format the first partition to ext3 than use the "dd" or "ddrescue" command to copy second partition to the first.11:24
david83Mille: What about make the first space a linux partition the move the files to the first partion the delete the old one and merge the space with the other space?11:24
dyn-afkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi << great article11:24
david83;)11:24
sjrylasasin: if you got the new xorg file, you can boot the Xserver only11:24
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Milledavid83, THX-1138, ok.. no other solution? gparted for some reason don't want to move it.11:25
THX-1138RockJ - This is a sucky answer but maybe use WINE?11:25
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david83Mille - normal because the first partition of the harddisk is always difficult?11:25
dyn-afkdefinity_ check out the following links for vi: http://www.chem.brown.edu/instructions/vi.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi11:26
THX-1138mille - The DD command will do it. man dd or the linux documentation project .org   for info.11:26
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david83THX: is it possible to move it?11:26
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Milledavid83, hm. why should it be difficult with the first partition? i mean, it's currently the ONLY partition on the drive11:27
definity_thanks, what directory dose it save txt to? on nano?11:27
paul0how i can check my actual color Depth?11:27
definity_i typed in a name and it didnt ask for a directory11:27
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THX-1138mille - just plain 'ol cp with the right switches enabled to preserve symlinks. -still in all you might be faster to reinstall. if the commands are new to you.11:27
sjpaul0: pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that file has the info11:27
paul0Second Life is asking for 32-bit color11:27
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paul032bit color is the 24 bpp?11:28
dyn-afknope11:28
MilleTHX-1138, i think i can copy it with gparted. i'm resizing the ubuntu partition to fitt the beggining space on the drive. :-)11:28
dyn-afkbut you can try paul011:28
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THX-1138pauk0 - secondlife with WINE or Cedega? - coolness (does happy dance)11:29
david83Mille: I guess the first partition of the hd had the index for the extend partions that followed as you deleted it an extend partition can't be at the start of the hd because it's nessary to have a primary partition11:29
Crippy-BoyHmm i need someones opinion on something.11:29
dyn-afkmostly apps think they have 32 bit color but in reality it's just 24 bit11:29
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paul0DefaultDepth    2411:29
Crippy-BoyIm creating a live cd for my own personal use, but i have to add/remove/edit specific things11:29
paul0but second life is still asking for 32 bit color11:29
THX-1138Mille - There is also "partimage" good i have been told. bad luck with it myself using knoppix.11:29
definity_where dose nano save the fiels you save init to?11:29
definity_files11:29
Nookieis microsoft running linux? nmap -O -vv -sS -T4 -A search.microsoft.com11:29
jonah1980_2hi i paid channel 4 a pound to watch an episode of lost which i thought would work with firefox mplayer plugin, only when i try to watch it firefox complains i need to install missing plugins, can anyone help me? please11:30
Crippy-BoyIm not sure if i should remaster the ubuntu live cd, Create it all on hd properly then use livecd scripts, Or start it from scratch11:30
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Milledavid83, couldn't be. cause at first i wanted to move the ubuntu partition forward and make the windows partition (that was in the beggning of the drive) bigger, but that wasn't possible either.11:30
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definity_yeh download it from a torrent11:30
dyn-afkno Nookie Microsoft isn't running linux11:30
MilleTHX-1138, ok. i'll check it out if i run into trubble with gparted. thanks alot. :-)11:30
Nookiedyn-afk: okej11:30
dyn-afkMicrosoft is not hosting the search.microsoft.com site11:31
Crippy-BoyWould it matter if they were11:31
dyn-afkjust like most part of microsoft.com11:31
THX-1138Mille - Welcome to the linux community.11:31
definity_jonah1980_2: download the torrent of it that way you dont waste anymoney11:31
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dyn-afkthey outsorced the hosting for their site to one of the biggest hosters in the world11:31
definity_how can i search for files in konsole11:31
david83Mille: Windows bigger?|Ubuntu <-- at the same time| space???11:31
dyn-afkand that hoster runs linux machines11:31
FlamekebabA little help with a supported wireless card and PEAP/LEAP?11:31
FlamekebabSomeone?11:31
dyn-afkthat's why most microsoft.com subsites return linux as the OS11:32
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THX-1138dyn-afk - Did you see what OS that host is using?11:32
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THX-1138dyn-afk - roflmao11:32
david83Mille: how do you write in red as you answer me?11:32
Milledavid83, ehm. first i had a windows partition 5 gb, then a unbuntu 5 gb. then i wanted to move the ubuntu 2 gb forward and resize windows to 7 gb.11:32
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definity_how can you search for a file in konsole?11:32
lamegofind path -name "filename"11:33
Milledavid83, i dont? it's your irc client.... xchat? ;-)11:33
lamegoor locate "filename"11:33
definity_thanks11:33
brk3definity_: locate <filename>11:33
david83Mille: hm how does hi knows?11:33
dyn-afkbtw, Microsoft's  hoster is Akamai, but that's also returned by that nmap command nookie gave11:33
jonah1980_2do i need a symlink or something?? why is it not recognising the plugin?11:34
Milledavid83??11:34
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sjjonah: do other videos work fine?11:34
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livingdaylighthaving problems with the keyboard layout. Whether i set it to French or German i am left with the usual uk keyboard11:34
david83Mille: i mean how does the client know we are talking to each other? i could be any user in this room like THX that i am talking to11:34
definity_how do i update my locate DB?11:34
jonah1980_2sj, i thought they did but haven't tried any others - on a diff computer to one i usually use11:34
definity_it says it out of date11:34
david83definity: updatedb as root11:35
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definity_thanks11:35
sjjonah: I meant other videos that require mplayer-ff plugin11:35
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david83definity: you're welcome11:35
Milledavid83, i'm writing your nickname. then it gets highlighted red.11:35
rem__FYI: This package is needed to play mp3 with rhythmbox in dapper: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp311:35
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david83Mille, test11:35
david83:( not read11:36
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david83red11:36
Milledavid83 - red?11:36
dyn-afkTHX-1138 try the nmap command nookie gave with msdn.microsoft.com instead of search.microsoft.com, it will return Windows as OS11:36
rem__tried about 100 diff gstreamer packages b4 finding the right one ... :P11:36
THX-1138david83 - IRC text colors http://www.new2chat.com/color.html11:36
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dyn-afkService Info: OS: Windows <<see11:36
livingdaylighthaving problems with the keyboard layout. Whether i set it to French or German i am left with the usual uk keyboard11:36
david83Mille is this messages red for you?11:36
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admin_whats a good program to extract a rar archive?11:36
dyn-afkadmin_ try rar11:36
NemesisUKunrar11:36
dyn-afkand unrar11:36
Milledavid83, no, i've choosen my own colors in my client.11:36
fabiomazzarinoI'm trying to use radeon drivers at my ATi Radeon 9200SE, but I can't make Direct Rendering work.11:36
david83THX-1138 :) i guess i am a hard newbie11:37
jonah1980_2sj, no doesn't seem to pick up on wmv files at all11:37
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jonah1980_2can anyone help me get wmvs playing in firefox please?11:37
fabiomazzarinoI've already modprobed radeon module, and via_agp.11:37
boinkthere is a mplayer-plugin for firefox11:37
THX-1138david83 - The dictionary definition of noob has my pic. need to work harder if you want my place.11:38
jonah1980_2mplayer plugin isn't showing up in synaptic!11:38
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sjjonah: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28Mplayer.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox11:38
NemesisUKjonah1980_2, it's in multiverse I think11:38
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skySurferI just reformatted a partition using ext3. Now there is a lost+found directory. Does anybody know if this is needed or can it be savely deleted?11:39
david83THX i don't get it where on the page is it discribed?11:39
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jonah1980_2mozilla-mplayer is installed, but firefox doesn't think so!!11:40
david83skySurfer: definitely needed11:40
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skySurferok. What is it? something for ext3?11:40
sjjonah: restart FF11:40
maccam94ugh i've got weird sound issues. is there a way to get any sound-related stuff to completely reconfigure itself?11:40
jonah1980_2i've closed and restarted firefox and still no#11:41
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david83skySurfer: in case of hang-up the file that where messed up will be put there so you can try to get the back and running11:41
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david83them11:41
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skySurferdavid83: ok thanks for that. I'll have to do some reading then...11:41
ruthhi all11:41
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sjhi ruth11:42
Distro^Junkiewhat's the latest version of amarok available ?11:42
ruthdoes edgy comes with gnome 2.16?11:42
maccam94lemme check11:42
maccam94yup11:42
maccam94ruth: yup i'm in it right now11:42
THX-1138!ubuntu+1 > ruth11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
david83what is more work? linux from scratch or gentoo?11:43
ruthhow to upgrade??11:43
david83!me11:43
livingdaylighthaving problems with the keyboard layout. Whether i set it to French or German i am left with the usual uk keyboard11:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:43
david83!time11:43
ubotutime: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB11:43
jonah1980_2could it be to do with me only having firefox 1.0.3?? how do i upgrade to latest version11:44
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maccam94ruth: gksu "update-manager -c -d"11:44
maccam94that'd get you edgy11:44
Knifahurray!11:44
Knifaubuntu working on my new motherboard11:44
Knifafinally11:44
tuxtuxnotte a tutti11:44
david83that's nice11:44
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MilleTHX-1138, do you think i should make a seperate partition to mount /home on?11:45
livingdaylightdoes the keyboard layout not work?11:45
rudizhi..how i get rid of the debian submenu in Applications11:45
sjjonah: shoujldnt be that way..11:45
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THX-1138mille - I do. - less fear of trying some nifty new app.11:46
dyn-afk<Mille> THX-1138, do you think i should make a seperate partition to mount /home on? <<I'm not THX-1138, but yes, that would be a very very very good idea11:46
david83is it bad to install 2 Versions of Firefox or 2 Versions of kernel modules on my system? does it make the same trouble then in windows?11:46
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ruthcool11:46
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MilleTHX-1138, dyn-afk, how big should the root partition be then?11:46
lotusleafDo I need ACPI on my desktop box?11:46
dyn-afkif you screw up ubuntu for some reason you won;t have to worry about the contents in your homedir11:46
ruthmaccam94, great!! thnxs11:47
dyn-afkI created a 6 GB partition for / but I think 7 or 7.5GB would be better11:47
dyn-afkit just depends on what you want to install11:47
THX-1138Mille - at least 2.5 gigs. - I like 5 (apt cache fills tings up fast)11:47
RugTHX-1138: nice nic11:47
IcemanV9rudiz: use the menu editor to unclick debian submenu11:47
Millei'll go with 7. :-)11:47
dyn-afkif that's kde with gnome then you'll prolly need more then 7.5 GB11:47
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david83apt autoclean?11:47
dyn-afk:)11:47
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Millejuse gnome i guess11:48
Millejust*11:48
lotusleafIs there any real reason to have the ACPID service running on a desktop?11:48
Smakfrom a default server install, is gdm setup and enabled by default?11:48
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Milleany reasons I shouldn't put the swap at the beggning of the drive?11:48
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david83lotusleaf: yes11:48
RugMille: MBR needs to be at the beginning11:48
dyn-afknope Smak it's commandline only (as it should be)11:48
sjSmak: I dont think so.. you are thrown to terminal mode11:49
lotusleafdavid83: hi, so, without grand details, I should just leave it active?11:49
THX-1138Rug - "Buy.. Buy more.. Buy more now!" thanks rug11:49
MilleRug, so you dont think this will work?11:49
dyn-afkmbr first, then swap, then everything else11:49
RugMille: you will get best preformance by putting it at the 'end' of the drive anyway.11:49
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Millei see11:49
RugTHX-1138: I use it as the host name of my PC11:49
Smakso gdm is enabled only with the client install.11:49
RugMille: the 'end' of the drive is the outer edge of the disk.11:50
Milleok11:50
dyn-afkouter edge has a longer travel11:50
sjSmak: you could always apt-get11:50
Millei understand11:50
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Milleyeah11:50
THX-1138Rug - Impatience force my machines to be testy# - no patience11:50
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Smaksjbrown: Oh, i was just wondering.11:50
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Smakerr ^^ sj11:50
david83lotusleaf, so you can hit the powerbutton and the system shut's down if configured properly and for BIOS Hardware things like that11:50
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kothz!guinness11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guinness - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
jordanHow do I map F12 as right click?11:51
RugHow do I burn audio-CD's from MP3s?11:51
kothzSigh.  What kind of well-stocked bot are you?11:51
SmakRug: k3b?11:52
THX-1138kothz - 12step sober bot?11:52
RugSmak: I get an error; invaid format11:52
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willHello! I'm trying to install the latest version of Blender3d (see http://www.blender3d.org).  The version on the repositories is out of date by one version, and coincidentally the latest version added the most important features I need.  So, I must download and build from source.  Does anyone have expierience with this?11:52
david83how to use that damn WIN-Button?11:52
Ingmar^does anyone know why i can't seem to play an xvid fluently using _any_ player, and using xv, as video driver ? it used to work on 6.10 LTS, but I doubt it's related to edgy11:52
IcemanV9!language > david8311:52
jordanwill, Did you check backports first?11:52
dyn-afkRug you can use serpentine for creating an audio cd from mp3 files, serpentine is installed by default in ubuntu11:52
david83sorry Iceman11:53
Rugdyn-afk: thanks.11:53
dyn-afknp11:53
sjdavid: you could configure your win key (called as Super_L) to anything11:53
cafuegowill: Download the source deb package and replacethe actual sources, keeping the debian/ subdir. Then build a custom .deb.11:53
THX-1138Ingmar^- vlc11:53
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jonah1980_2i've updated firefox and i just don't get why the mplayer plugin isn't working or even attempting to work in firefox, can anyone help fix it?11:53
RugIt was working fine vefore a recent apt-get dist-upgrade.  So I don't know what bjorked it11:53
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willjordan:  I'm not very expierienced in linux.  I added multiverse and universe to my repos;  Could you elaborate on how to do this through backports?11:53
Ingmar^THX-1138: it discards frames on ALL players, including vlc, mplayer, kaffeine & xine-ui11:53
jordan!backports11:53
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports11:53
sjjonah: is mplayer working fine independently? just wondering..11:53
willcafeugo:  It doesn't have a debian package as far as I know, It just has static and linked i386 sourcecode.11:54
willgoing to backports link now11:54
jordanwill, It may not have the version you want, but it is worth checking.11:54
THX-1138Ingmar^ - No help here. - it works for me.11:54
Ingmar^THX-1138: thanks for your answer :-)11:54
david83sj: how to configure Super_L11:55
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sjdavid: system->pref->keyboard shortcuts11:55
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cafuegowill: Yes, use the i386 sourcecode with the current debian build scripts.11:55
rjmwhen i move you move11:56
THX-1138david83 - gconf-editor /apps/metacity commands  key11:56
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jordanHow do I map F12 as right click? ( I am using a mac and don't have right click )11:56
willjordan: I just added the backports and I'm scanning now, if not I guess I'll need to attempt to build it from source11:57
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THX-1138jordan - I haven't done this but xev (if installed) will give you the needed info.11:57
david83jordan: i guess the same as i do my win-key11:57
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kothzjordan: first link from search result in google: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24868.html11:58
livingdaylight;lkjhgfdsagfdsaqpwoeiurytbvncmxz,\.::@{}+_)(*&^%$$"11:58
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livingdaylightcan't get my german keyboard to work11:58
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livingdaylightanyone have any idea why the keyboard layout is not working?11:58
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willjordan: The backports do not have the version I need. I'm going to build from source, So far I just downloaded build essentials.  Should I get Static source code or Dynamic?11:58
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shodanjr_grhello guys!11:59
sjlivingdaylight: maybe you have to restart your xserver11:59
jordankothz, I have already tried those instructions and they didn't work :(11:59
shodanjr_granyone got some time for a couple of Qs?11:59
THX-1138livingdaylight - there is a rules file in /etc/x11/xkbd/ - still working on your question.11:59
livingdaylightsj: HMMM..11:59
jordan!ask11:59
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:59
shodanjr_grhehehe11:59
shodanjr_grwell11:59
shodanjr_gri got a laptop11:59
MilleTHX-1138, and tip you can give of things i should read when starting to use ubuntu? after my last installation i had some problem getting mp3's to work. I found a python program called 'easyubuntu' that installed all necessery thingys. You got any other tip?11:59
livingdaylightTHX-1138: i don't follow?11:59
shodanjr_grwith an 80gig HDD11:59
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shodanjr_grand i wana dual boot XP + Ubuntu11:59
ArrenLex!enter >shodanjr_gr12:00
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livingdaylightTHX-1138: i need to co into /etx/x11/xkbd?12:00
SkramXI boot up the livecd and my screen is just blank12:00
shodanjr_grbut i want to be able to share files between the two OSes, and as far as i know, XP can not read Linux partitions. What would be the best way to do this?12:00
NemesisUKSkramX, is it a laptop12:00
ArrenLexshodanjr: make a third fat32 partition for this purpose.12:00
THX-1138livingdaylight - there is a conf file "xorg" in /etc/X11/xkbd/rules - still deciphering it. - doh12:00
david83Mille: install mplayer or vlc !12:01
Milleshodanjr_gr, there is a driver for ext2/3 support.12:01
SkramXNemesisUK: indeed12:01
willCould someone explain to me what the difference between Static and Dynamic source code is? I need to pick one to download.12:01
dan_for those interested you can download for free a fully functional cad program for linux at the following url http://www.cad-schroer.com/medusa.php?land=com&scr=1.112:01
TheGateKeepershodanjr_gr: might be of interest: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-610449081131189823612:01

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