anon32pike_, err...12:01
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anon32I have dialup so I don't want to remove anything I'll miss12:01
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fredrikhi can any one tell me if google mail will work with Evolution e-mail12:01
TokenbadTHX-1138, no...it was only 1 partition before...then wanted to add another from the free space on the one..12:01
TokenbadI have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is12:01
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blindTokenbad: the drive, or the partition?12:02
collier_kitche: can u help?12:02
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25695/12:02
anon32fredrik, yes, you need to enable pop3 in your gmail account though12:02
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Paddy_EIREis it possible for "firestarter" to start upon logging in minimised to the tray?12:02
ninja_monkeyhello people, I was in here not to long ago asking about issues with resolution. Problem was that I got a link to a FAQ page with resolution troubleshooting, but I can't find it on my own. Could you supply it again please? (I was on my win installation when I got the URL)12:02
ompaulTokenbad, what does sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd(a??)12:02
kitchecollier_: well I can try but it seems like you have to force rageircd to uninstall did you try the dpkg way o fremoving packages12:02
fredrikanon32, thanks12:02
anon32oh there we go, it was gnome-volume-properties12:03
THX-1138Yes, Then 30gigs was unavailable for a new format. - no warings about the number of promarary partitions?12:03
collier_kitche: nope how do you do that?12:03
ninja_monkeyresolution > ninja_monkey12:03
blindlol ninja_monkey12:03
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ninja_monkeyah, thanks.12:03
THX-1138Tokenbad - s/promarary/primary/g12:03
ClawfingerHello, does anybody know if it is possible to have two programs running that use audio and both of them playback?12:04
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kitchecollier_: man dpkg should tell you know to remove packages since I m not familiar with dpkg myself12:04
blind!tell Clawfinger about alsa12:04
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collier_dpkg -r|--remove | -P|--purge rangeircd12:05
collier_like that?12:05
swashbucklinstevladydoor: Very curiously, that also seems to fail. :-(12:05
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anon32Clawfinger, in Windows, that causes both to play audio half the time... dunno what ALSA will do though12:05
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Paddy_EIREIs it possible for "firestarter" to start upon logging in minimised to the tray?12:05
swashbucklinstevladydoor: if it helps any, I'm on AMD6412:05
kitcheyep that's it collier_ do a purge12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:06
pike_Paddy_EIRE: you dont really need firestarter to run unless you need to change firewall rules12:06
collier_kitche: so i type dpkg -p rangeircd?12:06
Paddy_EIREpike_: oh12:06
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kitchecollier_: yep12:06
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Paddy_EIREpike_: i suppose its just a frontend silly question12:06
Rahsputinhi! is there a list on usb dvb-t devices for ubuntu ?12:06
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anon32which you need to do if you want your IRC program to auth, if you run BT, etc..12:07
THX-1138Paddy_EIRE - you might add it to .gnomerc in your homedirectory.(surprised it doesn't already)  Unfortuneatly i haven't tried this.12:07
pike_Paddy_EIRE: sudo iptables -L will list the rules as long as you dont have inbound outbound and forward as just accept should be in good shape12:07
swashbucklinstevladydoor: Quite oddly, however, I am able to wget the files which apt-get fails to get12:07
collier_kitche: it does not remove it when I type that12:07
Paddy_EIRETHX-1138: what is "gnomerc" for anyway12:07
kitchecollier_: it just purges it try using apt-get now12:08
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TriGzMeow! hello guys :D12:08
TriGzt'has been a long time ;o12:08
collier_kitche: sudo apt-get rageircd12:08
THX-1138{Paddy_EIRE - .gnomerc will allow you to start applications on start up. see also .xinitrc12:08
Paddy_EIREk, thx12:08
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: that is odd. you might ask out loud if AMD64 need to use special repositories.12:08
kitchecollier-: sudo apt-get remove rageircd and see if it outputs the error12:09
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MissLadyanyone can help me please ?  I use Ubuntu and my cable modem don't work since installation.12:09
swashbucklinstevladydoor: I wondered about that too, google time. ty so far, if I get really stuck this will turn into a forum post.12:09
Paddy_EIRETHX-1138: is there anyway I can have the Gconfig-editor gui icon via apt-get12:09
pike_MissLady: you use a router or just direct to modem?12:09
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: good luck.12:09
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collier_kitche: what linux do u use?12:10
fredrikanon32, i get an error message saying it is not authenticated, any idear12:10
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MissLadypike_: direct to modem12:10
kitchecollier_: I run my own version of slackware12:10
pike_MissLady: same computer and network card as before?  just new operating system?12:10
THX-1138Paddy_EIRE - Have an icon for gconf-editor on your desktop? create a launcher by right clicking on the desktop.12:10
anon32fredrik, what was your question again? was it pop3 and gmail?12:10
MissLadypike_ yes12:10
mr_ewehi everyone, im really new to linux is there anyone that would chat with me for a while and help me figure some stuff out?12:10
collier_kitche: oh. It still wont remove.12:11
fredrikand i enabled it in google12:11
rogelioalguien de Venezuela???12:11
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:11
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anon32fredrik, read gmail's faq about pop312:11
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pike_MissLady: ifconfig shows the ethernet device as eth0 and then a loopback lo ?12:11
collier_kitche: whats the sudo command to delete a folder?12:12
anon32you need SSL for pop3 and TLS for smtp12:12
MissLadypike_: i'm connected with usb cable12:12
TriGzDon't suppose anyone here plays WorldOfWarcraft on *nix do they? :o12:12
pike_MissLady: ah12:12
kitchecollier_: sudo rmdir <folder> be careful with that command12:12
dagi3dI have just upgraded to edgy and cannot login using gdm12:12
collier_sudo rmdir /etc/rageircd/12:12
THX-1138TriGz - It's you! - hunting for you all over Azeroth.12:12
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collier_kitche: sudo rmdir /etc/rageircd/ right? just to make sure12:12
dagi3dis this a reported bug? it's second computer where it happens12:12
pike_MissLady: as a rule usb doesnt offer as good performance anyway.  you have no ethernet cable?12:12
CaplainTriGz: #winehq12:12
BoyBlundercan anyone help me with a quick script to disable/enable XGL/compiz (nvidia)?12:13
kitchecollier_: yep but I would cd into /etc then do sudo rmdir rageircd to be safe12:13
ninja_monkeyHow can I check what driver my ubuntu amd64 installation uses?12:13
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pike_MissLady: you could try lsusb and make sure its showing up at least12:13
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MissLadypike_: i cannot use ethernet12:13
xopherninja_monkey, if you mean the gfxcard driver, check you xorg.conf12:13
collier_collier@collier-desktop:/etc$ sudo rmdir rageircd12:13
collier_rmdir: rageircd: Directory not empty12:13
THX-1138TriGz - WINE is good but can i win you over to the "dark side"? try Cedega.12:13
Dr_willisIve given up on cedega...12:14
Dr_willisand games in general. :)12:14
kromelMissLady, may I send you a private message?12:14
Rastagive up emulation12:14
whyameyewhen I first upgraded to Dapper from Breezy, ubuntu found a driver other than ndiswrapper for my broadcom BCM4306. Something went wrong with networking in general a few weeks later and in an effort to get up and running quickly I went back to ndiswrapper, which is as buggy as ever. How can I track back hour ubuntu got my broadcom going w/out ndiswrapper?12:14
Rastause a virtual machine12:14
pike_MissLady: i really dont have experience though with comp --> usb --> cablemodem though12:14
DivineAnt colier: use rm -r rmdir is only for empty directories12:15
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MissLadypike_: i installed usbnet module and when lsmod i see it12:15
MissLadypike_: ok np :)12:15
Paddy_EIREWhich web site design program would you recommend for a newbie web designer using ubuntu12:15
whyameyePaddy_EIRE: nvu?12:15
cyberfallanyone know much about svn12:15
collier_rm: remove write-protected regular file `rageircd/rageircd.conf'? y12:16
collier_rm: cannot remove `rageircd/rageircd.conf': Permission denied12:16
SteilDoes setting a password on an ODT file just lock it, or does it encrypt it as well?12:16
pike_MissLady: get a 802.11 card and leech of your neighbors :)12:16
Flannelcyberfall: what do you need to know about svn?12:16
whyameyecyberfall: what do you need to know? It's called subversion in the repos...12:16
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cyberfalland sourceforge12:16
TriGzTHX-1138, hey again dude.. Yea i run it through wine.. BUT i cant loot mobs i kill.. or talk to any npc's... below everyone is like..  a black square.. and i just cant talk/loot :(12:16
MissLadykromel: if it'S about my problem with usb modem cable it's ok... if not ... no thx ;p12:16
Paddy_EIREwhyameye: I will get this and perhaps a second for opinions sake what else12:16
cyberfallwell  svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai ufoai it say it dont like the link12:16
anon32Paddy_EIRE, gedit12:16
MissLadypike_: isn't for that12:16
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Paddy_EIREanon32: someone that isnt really versed in raw html12:16
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Tokenbadompaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25698/12:17
cyberfallsvn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai'12:17
swashbucklinstevladydoor: Apparently the main ubuntu repository should suffice, because it has all the arches respective packages listed in the same file (this file corresponds to a specific package like "mplayer" etc)12:17
MissLadypike_: my ethernet chips is dead12:17
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BoyBlundercan anyone help me with a quick script to disable/enable XGL/compiz (nvidia)? I'm trying to get WoW to work under Wine and it's telling me it can't start my 3d accelerator.12:17
TokenbadTHX-1138, I don't understand what that means12:17
Paddy_EIREIs "Quanta Plus" any good12:17
swashbucklinstevladydoor: so now I'm really confused, i guess it turns into a forum post now12:17
ladydoorswashbucklinstev: ah. then there's probably some weird networking thing going on.12:17
ninja_monkeyIf I want to change drivers (my ubuntu installation uses vesa drivers) to nvidia, what should I change the driver to?12:17
Flannelcyberfall: there's a few more directories under that, check it out in a webbrowser12:17
DivineAntcollier: you still need sudo - and a dangeruos side note wich can get you into a lot of trouble: rm -rf to get rid of "do you want to remove ..."12:17
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swashbucklinstevladydoor: indeed12:17
TokenbadI have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is  This is what fdisk -l /dev/hd12:17
Tokenbadd says:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25698/12:17
cyberfallumm how12:17
THX-1138TriGz - hm - could be a teeny-weeny problem eh? - grin.   Cedega is stable. run it with a low color depth and no "UI Scale" font corruption.12:18
Flannelcyberfall: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai in a web browser12:18
btdownHey could someone pastbin me their /etc/hosts file (or a good sample one) ? I hosed mine up12:18
cyberfalli try that earlyer and got an error12:19
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yellowhey guys, is there a way to open a terminal where you are while browsing file  ?12:19
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TriGzTHX-1138 - dont you have to pay for Cedega? :(12:19
Rahsputinis there a list on usb dvb-t devices for ubuntu ?12:19
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THX-1138Tokenbad - I can only guess you must already know. gparted was confused by file information in the ntfs partition due maybe file fragmentation. defrag and checkdisk with ntfs12:19
cyberfall svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/trunk/12:20
Rahsputini cannot get my fujitsu siemens usb dvb-t to run12:20
cyberfallsvn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/trunk'12:20
wwwdotcom-macHello, I am trying to install a missing plugin in firefox, how do I do this using the ubuntu linux?12:20
cyberfallwhy is it sayin that12:20
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ninja_monkeyIs there any help files regarding Ubuntu not detecting my graficsdrivers?12:20
Flannelyellow: yeah, there's even a package to add it... nautilus-open-terminal is the package name12:20
^Ocean^anyone have a dos 6.22 Boot disk image i can use to burn onto a CDrom12:20
THX-1138TrigGz - Yes, $5 a month. about the cost of a starbucks latte. I said darkside because i believe they have used technologies not in spirit with GNU.12:21
Dr_willis^Ocean^,  what are you trying to do?12:21
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Flannelcyberfall: you're missing a ufoai, there's two folders of it12:21
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yellowFlannel:  thanks man12:21
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Flannelcyberfall: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk/12:21
^Ocean^Dr_willis: get an old 486 running with now floppy drive lol... and im tryin to use k3b to burn the cd, but the bootdisk.img i found dont seem to be recconized as a proper boot image file...12:21
pestilencei thought i had setup a raid1 on my machine, but it seems one of the drives didn't get setup properly -- it is missing the raid superblock...does anyone know how i can add it (without destroying the data on the other drive)12:21
Rahsputinwwwdotcom-mac   synaptic --- mozilla plugin12:21
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TriGzTHX-1138 - isn't there like.. a free version but its not sa good or something12:22
Dr_willis^Ocean^,  check out the freedos project12:22
Rahsputini would do it so12:22
THX-1138Tokenbad. It sucks. But your drive is okay.12:22
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Dr_willis^Ocean^,  of course it the thing wont boot off the cdrom.. well you may be stuck.. or do a network boot12:22
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wwwdotcom-macRahsputin, sorry, I do not know what that means12:22
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THX-1138TriGz - Yes, Compile from CVS source repository. - read mixed results on that. - 5 bucks is easier.12:23
^Ocean^no it boots off cdrom just fine ;) im sure of that12:23
Dr_willis^Ocean^,  put PUPPYLINUX on that thang!12:23
TriGzTHX-1138 - 5 bucks a month, + the 15 i pay for wow.. it all adds up :P12:23
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fredrikanon32, read it but could not figure out, keep n getting an error message and also prompt for a password12:23
necudecoalguien ha instaldo una hp proliant12:23
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Paddy_EIREAnyone know of a good populated IRC chan/server that has an active web designers community possible for newbies also... #nvu is dead12:23
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:23
Rahsputinrun synaptic  and search for mozilla plugin12:23
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YonoDoes anyone know about setting up dual monitors with twinview?12:23
FlannelPaddy_EIRE: try #css or #html or #webdev (although #webdev is rather dead)12:23
Yonobecause I could use some help12:24
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wwwdotcom-macRahsputin, and how do I do that?12:24
THX-1138TriGz - True enough +25 a month for Ubuntu. dunno. - I like the ease of use.12:24
gtlis there any channel for ubuntu x86_64 support?12:24
pike_Yono: fairly easy depending on card12:24
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Rahsputinopen terminal $ sudo synaptic12:24
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TokenbadTHX-1138, then why is it saying in gparted that my drive is only 47 gigs...when it should be 8012:24
pike_Yono: card?12:24
TriGzI prefer cost :P12:24
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FlannelRahsputin: that's asking for trouble.  gksudo synaptic12:24
TriGzTHX-1138 - How much knowledge would it require to compile from CVS?12:24
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Yonopike_: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]  (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )12:24
Rahsputingk is for ?12:25
Yonopike_:  both monitors work at bootup, but then mon #2 shuts off12:25
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FlannelRahsputin: gksudo is a graphical version of sudo (the one for gnome), it handles setting up the environment better for graphical programs12:25
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Yonopike_: I've been trying to mess with xorg.conf to no avail12:26
anon32TriGz, you just need the right dependencies and the right tools12:26
THX-1138Tokenbad - The descriptor table was written back wrong. - You can remove a partition and format it ntfs then use checkdisk and defrag to gather things closer together. nothing will be caught at disk edge12:26
pike_Yono: is one mon a lcd or older crt?12:26
TriGzanon32 - How hard is that? :P12:26
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Yonopike_: yes, the CRT functions, the FPD shuts off12:26
pike_Yono: i can paste an old config file of mine thats worked on solaris and linux..12:26
anon32TriGz, not hard... but time consuming12:27
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Yonopike_: that would be great12:27
StargazersHi. I am trying to compile "Bless Hex Editor" but it always says that I have no mono installed when I run ./configure -script. When I try to apt-get install mono, it says that it is installed? What is wrong?12:27
THX-1138anon32 - Absolutely. - I occasionally eat at 7-11 it's all about convenience.12:27
StargazersWhat package I need to compile it :S12:27
FlannelStargazers: build-essential12:27
FlannelStargazers: oh, wait.  nevermind.12:27
TriGzI'm going to hop onto ubuntu. brb :)12:27
FlannelStargazers: well, you'll still need that package, if you don't already.12:28
StargazersWhat package?12:28
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StargazersI have it.12:28
anon32Stargazers, add more repositiories12:28
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anon32mono is a .NET interpreter for Linux12:28
StargazersWell... I am not sure what version I need or do I have all needed packages, propably not.12:28
StargazersBut I have no idea what I should install.12:28
StargazersI don't just want to install 500MB of packages just for hex editor...12:29
pike_Yono: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25700/12:29
Yonopike_: thanks, I'll go check it out12:29
sax0n_m0f0rsomebody knows some project that has supported chipset DSC-350F(DLINK) that it is not the project spca5xx that only supports chipset DSC-350(DLINK) alguem knows of some alternative project?12:29
mjrStargazers, you probably need at least mono-devel12:30
StargazersLet me see.12:30
anon32Stargazers, lol12:30
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StargazersIt is already newest version.12:30
FlannelStargazers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MonoDevelopmentHowto  has some good links12:30
StargazersWhen I try to install it with apt-get.12:30
StargazersOh, have to look.12:30
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StargazersLet me see...12:31
StargazersBtw, what hexeditor you use in normal usage, or do you use any of them?12:31
Rahsputinis there a way to use a Fujitsu Siemens USB DVB-T antenna  ( dvb-t mobile tv tuner )   IMC Networks12:31
FlannelStargazers: There are a few in the repositories12:31
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StargazersWell, what you personally use? :)12:31
TriGzand he's back :)12:31
sax0n_m0f0rsomebody knows some project that has supported chipset DSC-350F(DLINK) that it is not the project spca5xx that only supports chipset DSC-350(DLINK) alguem knows of some alternative project?12:32
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sax0n_m0f0rhey ?12:32
cyberfall_got to love the power company12:32
cyberfall_sometime i wonder if they pay there own eletric bill12:32
wwwdotcom-macFlannel, I have low ram, so I need to use just the terminal12:33
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blindCan I takke advantage of the Windows Messenging service via ubuntu?12:33
Dr_williscyberfall,  they manage to lose their own bills12:33
pike_Yono: see 25701 for the one im using now12:33
Flannelblind: GAIM can do MSN messenger12:33
blindFlannel: not MSN.12:33
blindFlannel: the messenging service.12:33
Flannelblind: Windows Messenger is MSN Messenger12:33
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blindFlannel: no.12:33
kitcheFlannel: he means the service not the Messenger12:34
blindFlannel: you're thinking of something different :] 12:34
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Flannelblind: samba can do that12:34
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Yonopike_: ok I'm gonna go restart X11, thanks for your help12:34
blindAlright, cool.12:34
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ciphernemoWhat's the best way to get the latest nVidia drivers for dapper?12:35
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Flannel!tell ciphernemo about nvidia12:35
cyberfall_anyways back to my problem i was having with svn12:35
cyberfall_svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk'12:35
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StargazersWell, I installed those packages, but same problem.12:36
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StargazersWait I paste it on pastebin.12:36
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TriGzAnd i'm back :d12:36
cyberfall_is there something about svn that not liking the link12:36
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StargazersPastebin seems to be slooooooow.12:37
theguyhow do i change myself to be the owner?12:37
theguyi cant write files to certain folders12:37
theguyand im lost12:37
Flanneltheguy: which folders?12:37
collier_Hello, Why doesnt linux reconize my creative zen?12:37
Tokenbadthere is no way to save my data on this drive is there?12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about creative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
Flanneltheguy: usually you use sudo to copy the codecs there, instead of changing the owner of things12:38
theguyhow i do dat..im new to linux12:38
StargazersARGH PASTEBIN lags.12:39
Flanneltheguy: if you were using the cp command to copy stuff, you'd use "sudo cp [yadda yadda] " instead12:39
blindStargazers: using pastebin.com ?12:39
collier_Why doesnt linux reconize my creative zen?12:39
Stargazersblind: I tried it first :D. That was the laggy one.12:39
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StargazersThen I saw that in topic there is other one.12:40
blindStargazers: yeah, i was gonna suggest the ubuntu one :] 12:40
StargazersYep, my fault. Sorry 'bout that.12:40
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StargazersBut anyway, that is what that says.12:40
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zenitcollier_: recognize like a normal drive? That's what you mean?12:40
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free12:40
collier_zenit: yeah like a usb drive12:40
TriGz!info unrar-free12:40
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB12:40
Rahsputinanybody know where to get the dvb package12:41
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
zenitcollier_: because zen is difficult this way. You need to set aside some space on the drive for the hd-functionality first12:41
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blind!msg the bot12:41
zenitcollier_: don't remember on top of my head, check the manual12:41
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:41
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cyberfall_Flannel, hey12:42
Flannelcyberfall_: what command are you giving exactly?  that url works fine for me12:42
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cyberfall_ svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk/12:42
TriGzohmygod! why cant i unrar a file using unrar-free? :(12:42
TriGz!rar TriGz12:42
uboturar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)12:43
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Flannelcyberfall_: no trailing slash12:43
nblithello all12:43
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nblitneed assistance with wifi on Thinkpad x3112:44
Dr_willisunrar e whatever.rar (or is it x)12:44
nblitcan anyone assist?12:44
cyberfall_svn, version 1.1.4 (r13838)12:44
cyberfall_   compiled Sep 24 2006, 11:15:1512:44
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cyberfall_ svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk12:44
cyberfall_svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk'12:44
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XiXaQHow is Ubuntu with laptops and dockingstations?12:45
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nblitplz raise your voice if you can assist, i am a newbie and would like to get my wifi working on my laptop12:45
deltabTokenbad: how was the disk set up before this happened?12:45
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deltabnblit: what assitance do you need?12:45
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Flannelcyberfall_: the only thing I can think of is that your subversion doesn't understand https12:46
nblitdeltav>>i have a thinkpad x31 with aironet 350 minipci12:46
cyberfall_how is that when that what ubuntu package manager installed it12:46
cyberfall_is there a diffrent version of it12:46
nblitdeltab>> it works fine if i disable the encryption on my AP but if i use WEP encryption it does not get ip address12:46
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Flannelcyberfall_: what version of ubuntu are you using?12:47
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deltabnblit: can you use other encryption? WPA, iirc12:47
nex_howdy howdy12:47
cyberfall_umm about maybe month old12:47
cyberfall_6.06 ls12:48
cyberfall_6.06 lts12:48
g333k_worka fast downloads manager?12:48
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zenitnblit: and you are 100% sure that the key entered is correct?12:48
nblitdeltb: my router supports it but i was not able to connect, tried to use wiki to enable wpa for laptop, didnt work ;-(12:48
g333k_workI'm using 6.10 :p12:48
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Flannelcyberfall_: that's not possible.  the subversion in the repositories is 1.3, not 1.112:48
g333k_workits wonderful but the synaptic is slow12:48
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g333k_worka fast downloads manager?12:49
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nblitdeltab: my router is wrt54gs v5.0 with dd-wrt12:49
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nblitzenit completley sure12:49
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cyberfall_Flannel, ok let me go beat my head against a wall12:50
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zenitnblit: oki, and your adapter support 128bit wep?12:50
cyberfall_not sure i may of compiled that one and i grab a old copy12:50
Flannelcyberfall_: svn --version gives you 1.1?12:50
nblitzenit: actually i am using 64bit12:50
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zenitnblit: ah, oki. Then that's ruled out.12:51
nblitand the card supports it, it is a cisco/aironet 350 minipci12:51
Tokenbaddeltab, as just a single partition of 80 gigs12:51
Tokenbador whatever it is after they use the default space for whatever12:51
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cyberfall_Flannel,  how do i uninstall a compiled copy12:52
nblitguys i am going to tey WPA in a different way, i might return12:52
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Flannelcyberfall_: by deleting all the files that were installed12:53
cyberfall_oh ya that easys12:53
hollaback83how do i get root privliges????????12:53
Flannelhollaback83: sudo12:53
deltabTokenbad: Windows or Linux?12:53
cyberfall_and how do i get a list of that12:53
Flannelcyberfall_: that's why people use package managers ;)12:53
Flannelhollaback83: yes12:53
hollaback83wut is sudo12:53
cyberfall_well i figure the package manager would of fixed it12:54
Flannel!tell hollaback83 about sudo12:54
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Flannelcyberfall_: the make file, if you still have it, might have a make uninstall, or make clean12:54
vdepizzolcan anyone confirm this on gnome 2.16? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35972612:54
TriGzCan anyone help me with Unrar-free? I use the command.. unrar-free -x -p filename /home/useraccount/Desktop - But i don't get anything after it says it as extracted everything OK :|12:55
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Flannelvdepizzol: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support12:55
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vdepizzolFlannel, thank's12:56
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o0vapermonkey0ohi all is there any way to get more speed out of my gateway p4 1.512:56
deltabTriGz: -p for password?12:56
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TriGzdeltab, yes.12:57
o0vapermonkey0oor a program to do it12:57
deltabo0vapermonkey0o: what kind of speed?12:57
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Paddy_EIREhas anyone managed to crack using a Sony MiniDisc Player with linux yet....all I can find is some guy on sourceforge thats made a gui for it yet no driver he intends for someon to write there own!12:57
ScipioAfricanusbut most of the big comp. makers lock down clock speeds12:57
o0vapermonkey0owell i am playing wow and it is cinda choppy and i thaught if i used some of my harddrive space it will run better12:58
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o0vapermonkey0ojust want to boost my pc a little12:58
cyberfall_Flannel,  i found it but no make uninstall12:58
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: hmm, you could optimize Ubuntu to boot and shutdown faster, also turn off anything you don't need. Did you install the i686 kernel and modules, that will improve speed somewhat.12:58
cyberfall_and make clean didnt work12:58
TriGzo0vapermonkey0o - Mind if i ask what your using to run wow? (Wine, Cedega) ?12:59
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: Also if you have plenty of RAM you could turn off your swap space which could give you a speed boost.12:59
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Tokenbaddeltab, the extention I had was ext312:59
o0vapermonkey0ohow do i find out what one i installed i68612:59
kromelo0vapermonkey0o, my friend's WoW was choppy yesterday morning.  I found a fix for him, let me see if I can find it.  It may work for you too.12:59
Tokenbadbut now that one info says there is some kind of windows partition12:59
TriGzo0vapermonkey0o - Do you have a problem where you see black squares under Mobs and NPC's? and you cant interact with them? :P01:00
kromeloh, nevermind, he was using Cedega.01:00
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o0vapermonkey0ono just the doors to bld r ripped01:00
amicrawlehow do i update just 1 pkg  i want01:00
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TriGzi'm trying to un-rar cedega so i can install with that and try again, see if it sorts the black squares out ^^01:01
nex_what game are you getting black squares on?01:01
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eXistenZTriGz, Isn't cedega commercial?01:01
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TriGznex_ - I'm getting black squares on World Of Warcraft01:02
TriGzeXistenZ - yes it is. ;o01:02
deltabTokenbad: so you had one ext3 partition, and wanted to make it into two?01:02
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cpk2doesnt the wiki have a howto of wow&wine?01:02
o0vapermonkey0ohow do i turn off my swap space i have less than a gig of ram01:02
kitcheo0vapermonkey0o: if you have less then a gig of ram then swap space is good01:03
^Ocean^To get an old doss 6.22 to reconize a burned CD do i have to burn it in any special modE?   Becuase i burnt a cd this computer see's the contents fine.   but the dos 6.22 computer  will read the root of the CD but wont go into any sub directory on it.. says file not found01:03
ferossamicrawle: if you 'apt-get install pkgname' it will tell you if it's the latest one. If it's not in the listed repos you can download it and 'dpkg -i pkgname.deb'01:03
kromelTriGz, this guide worked great for me and my friend.  http://spherenet.spherevision.org/dokuwiki/howtos:wowoncedega01:03
TriGzkromel - I'm actually having trouble's installing cedega :P01:03
o0vapermonkey0oi have look all over the net cant find any thing usefull to me the game works great but it could be better01:03
kromelTriGz, oh...01:04
o0vapermonkey0owould more swap space be better01:04
TriGzkromel - Well.. Unrar'ing the pre-compiled CVS version my friend done for me xD01:04
Tokenbaddeltab, yes....I tried to use gparted...and it froze...when rebooted....it now says the drive is 47 gigs...with 15 gigs free...so am missing like 30 gigs01:04
o0vapermonkey0oi have a 300 gig harddrive01:04
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amicrawlei did but the website sayes the dapper ver is very old01:04
puffMy drive is full, are there any good tools/utilities for figuring out what's taking up all the space?01:05
deltabpuff: du, tkdu01:05
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: well you can test it, just run 'swapoff'. Then use 'top' to see how you're doing on memory.01:05
gtlhow can I setup flashplayer on ubuntu x86_64?01:05
amicrawlepuff try your temp file01:05
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puffI was just thinking that it might make a nice little project for learning ruby.01:05
mjrgtl, not trivially01:05
TriGzCan anyone help me with un-rar'ing with unrar-free? :O01:05
kromelTriGz, ahh, to help clean up this chat, mind if I send you a private message?01:05
gtlmjr: meaning?01:05
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amicrawletrigz i can01:06
deltabo0vapermonkey0o: I suggest you add a system monitor applet, and set it to display ram and swap01:06
ladydoordoes anybody either know a) how to take a square root in bc, or b) a good console-based calculator program01:06
amicrawletrigz i can  pm me and i will help01:06
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mjrgtl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava01:06
o0vapermonkey0owhat is that called01:06
Arrickhey guys, I am in class, and not near my ubuntu computer, can someone give me the terminal command for dropping to root?01:07
gtlmjr: thx!01:07
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: more swap does not equal better performance. About twice your RAM of swap is fine.01:07
amicrawlei got flash9 to work01:07
Arrickby the way good evening01:07
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deltabladydoor: sqrt(49)01:07
ferossArrick: sudo su -01:07
ladydoordeltab: thank you!01:07
kitcheArrick: su - you don't even need to sudo it seems01:07
o0vapermonkey0oSwap:  1887596k total,    40632k used,  1846964k free,   182928k cached01:07
TriGzkromel - feel free to PM me01:08
amicrawle<o0vapermonkey0o>  try in the shell  df -h01:08
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deltabkitche: su will ask for the target user's password when not run by root01:08
TriGzamicrawle - i can't PM you.. I havn't registered yet xD01:08
amicrawlethat will tell you megabites and gigabites01:08
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o0vapermonkey0owhat i am cins noob01:08
amicrawlehow do i reg TriGz01:08
TriGzamicrawle - try and PM someone, it will give you a link. im going to do it now ^^01:09
Arrickthanks kitche01:09
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kitchedeltab: correct but I know people that used su - on ubuntu but then agian it was back in 5.x series01:09
deltabo0vapermonkey0o: you have plenty of swap (nearly 2 Gb) and are barely using it01:09
amicrawlepeople how do i reg my user name01:10
o0vapermonkey0oso my swap is fine01:10
deltabamicrawle: /msg nickserv help register01:10
kitcheamicrawle: /quote nickserv help register never do /msg01:10
TriGzamicrawle - I'm going to pm you with the command you need to do.01:10
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cyberfall_umm ok01:10
kitchesince nickserv might not be who you think it is it happened on here before01:10
cyberfall_apt-get install svn dont work01:10
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puffamicrawle: You mean /tmp?  Already checked... also /var/tmp.01:11
deltabcyberfall_: subversion01:11
cyberfall_i installed that in the package manager01:11
cyberfall_and reinstalled it01:11
puffdeltab: Yeah, du is what I usually use, I was hoping for something a bit moreintelligent.01:11
cyberfall_and no work01:11
deltabpuff: tkdu01:11
puffdeltab: Actually, I'm thinking of building a little utility to do what I normally do with du when I'm trying to free up disk space.01:11
cyberfall_i deleted the svn files that showed in a command whereis svn01:11
ladydoordeltab: do you know how to get it to display more decimal places?01:11
deltabpuff: what's that?01:11
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o0vapermonkey0oy does it say 2users feross01:12
ferosspuff: uhm  did you 'apt-get clean' and 'apt-get autoclean'?01:12
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puffdeltab:  Usually I start with something like  "du -sk ~/* | sort -n", followed by "sudo du -sk /home/* | sort -n", if it's a shared box.01:12
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pufffeross: Good idea.01:12
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deltabladydoor: scale=1001:13
ladydoordeltab: thanks01:13
Tokenbaddeltab, did you see my responce?01:13
Adamif I run uname -r I get 2.6.12-10-386. Should this 386 actually be 686? I am a bit confused why it says 386 why I would expect 686.01:13
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ladydoordeltab: thanks muchly, actually!01:13
ferosso0vapermonkey0o: if you're in a terminal as root it will show that as another user.01:13
cyberfall_686 i think is for pentium pro01:13
deltabTokenbad: yeah01:13
cyberfall_not sure if that still true01:13
pufffeross: unfortunately, that didn't make any difference.  Hm.01:14
o0vapermonkey0ook so there is no program to make it runn better01:14
cyberfall_i386 is just i think normal x86 code based01:14
amicrawle<o0vapermonkey0o  what are you trying to do01:14
ferosscyberfall_: I'm sorry to correct you but i386 is for everything p2 and older.. P3 and newer should use i68601:15
deltabTokenbad: do you know what gparted done done when it crashed?01:15
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deltab^had done01:15
puffIRRC JGoodies had a neat little java tool for doing osm eo fhtis.01:15
o0vapermonkey0otrying to play wow at top speed but i only have a p4 1.5 with 786 ram01:15
Adamso 386 is wrong if I am running an inter pentium 640 3 gig processor?01:15
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Tokenbaddeltab, it was resizing the partition to use free space of it to make another partition01:15
amicrawlei play wow on a x86 800mhz01:15
amicrawlewith 512mb or ram01:16
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o0vapermonkey0oit plays but not verry good the doors r riped and cinda laggy01:16
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deltabTokenbad: are all the files okay?01:16
mjrAdam, it's not wrong as such, though slightly suboptimal01:16
ferossAdam: if you have a P3 you should change the default to i686. Ubuntu installs i386 just to make sure it will work for most PC's.01:16
amicrawledid you try xwine01:16
amicrawleor wine01:16
o0vapermonkey0ojust wine01:16
Adamso how do I change it?01:17
amicrawledid you all so try transgaimg01:17
cyberfall_feross,  no problems01:17
DeraminHow do I manually install the JDK from the .bin or -rpm.bin off sun's site?01:17
sethkDeramin, chmod +x whatever.bin     then    ./whatever.bin01:17
amicrawleyou might find it very useful01:17
cyberfall_i just kinda remember back in the day when i686 start showin up when the pentium pro was out01:17
sethkDeramin, as root01:17
Tokenbaddeltab, the files are there...but the freespace was going to use as another partition is gone01:17
cyberfall_and i was getting brave to try linux on a k601:17
amicrawlei use transgaming01:18
cyberfall_and about cooked it01:18
cyberfall_back when red hat was gpl01:18
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ferossAdam: do 'apt-get install kernel-image-i686' or something like that .. lemme look it up.01:18
Deraminsethk: ah, the root part may have been what was bunging me up. How do I run something at root, again?01:18
Tokenbado0vapermonkey0o, have you tried the new crossover?  it supports wow01:18
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deltabTokenbad: your partition table isn't accurately describing the layout of your disk01:18
o0vapermonkey0ona just wine01:19
Tokenbaddeltab, I figured that...but how fix it...without losing data01:19
deltabTokenbad: find out where the current partitions actually are01:19
Tokenbado0vapermonkey0o, they have a trial version you can test...01:19
cyberfall_apt-get install subervsion say it installed01:19
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cyberfall_but i use svn and notta01:19
Tokenbaddeltab, ummm...ok...how?01:19
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o0vapermonkey0oit plays sound is choppy and doors are ripped01:20
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Deramin~How do I run something *as* root01:20
deltabTokenbad: maybe your files are spread out across the disk, but some of them are outside the partition and can't be accessed01:20
sethkDeramin, either use sudo, or use su.01:20
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stodgeAnyone know how to change the resolution of the login screen (gdm?)?01:20
Adamrun something as root use sudo01:20
Deraminsethk: ah. thanks.01:20
deltabTokenbad: maybe they were all packed into the smaller space now covered by the first partition01:20
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deltabTokenbad: which of those is the case?01:21
Tokenbadall the files are within the 47 gig part01:22
Gk-s2-someone can help me?01:22
Tokenbaddeltab, all the files are within the 47 gig part01:22
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deltabTokenbad: you've checked that?01:22
Adamthere is no package kernel-image-i68601:22
Tokenbadwell if I mount hdd1 which is only 47 gigs...the files are there....01:23
sethkstodge, gdm uses the highest defined resolution01:23
deltabTokenbad: was 47 gig the size you chose?01:23
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deltabTokenbad: *all* of the files?01:23
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stodgeIt does? Oh that's a pain :P01:23
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stodgeOk I'll reconfigure X then - thanks01:23
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jmerlinanyone here an expert with printers? :>01:23
deltabTokenbad: how have you checked?01:24
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Tokenbaddeltab, let me explain this again...I had 80 gig drive...which had like 45 gigs use...I tried to use 20 gigs of the free space on that drive to make another partition...when gparted froze...and I rebooted...the drive said it was actually full...75 of 80 gigs used...01:24
o0vapermonkey0ocant i get Cedega for free01:24
stodgeCedega is commercial01:24
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Tokenbaddeltab, I then ran fsck on it...and that then made it say 47 gigs with 15 gigs free of that01:25
o0vapermonkey0ois there a way around it01:25
deltabTokenbad: because it hadn't changed the partition table yet01:25
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Tokenbaddeltab, cause I erased some movies off...01:25
stodgeNo idea01:25
Tokenbaddeltab, thats why it now says 15 gigs free..01:25
stodgeIt's cheap - buy it01:25
o0vapermonkey0oi am poor01:25
romans5n1I was just looking at both the ubuntu and kubuntu distros... i noticed that kubuntu dvd distro is both a live and install cd... is this true for the ubuntu dvd distro as well?01:25
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deltabTokenbad: when?01:25
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nblitdeltab: I'm back, i tried WPA according to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo and still does not work01:27
stopgoIf I'm on a 686 kernel and I download the 386 image through my Package Updater (or whatever the gui auto-update frontend is called in English), it'll replace my current 686 kernel, right? Same with the modules for 386?01:27
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o0vapermonkey0oit is 55$ a year01:27
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stodgeThat's cheap01:27
sethkromans5n1, for the latest release, yes01:27
cafuegostopgo: no01:27
nblitdeltab: i think the WPA_SUPPLICANT is looking for the wrong device01:27
sethkromans5n1, for the previous release (both ubuntu and kubuntu) they were separate CDs01:27
deltabnblit: why do you think that?01:28
sethkromans5n1, there is still a separate alternate CD01:28
stopgocafuego: oh. what's it do with the stuff it downloads then?01:28
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sethkromans5n1, well, not "still", exactly, there is a separate alternate install cd that is similar to the install cd of the previous version01:28
Tokenbaddeltab, after gparted froze and rebooted and it said the drive was full I tried to clean some of it off...01:28
Adamok so how do I update from 386 to 686? use Package linux-image-2.6.15-23-686?01:28
sethkromans5n1, but the desktop options install was moved to the live cd01:28
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nblitdeltab: oh wait01:28
romans5n1cool... from what I've read and seen, I'm 99% sure it's going to be one of the two for me, so it comes down to which desktop I like best ;)... though from screenshots, I'm already leaning toward ubuntu01:28
Tokenbaddeltab, but then still was missing space...01:28
jmerlinanyone here an expert with printers? :>01:28
nbliti think i put the wrong card Duuuuuuuuuh01:29
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.01:29
jmerlini need help getting my lexmark to print and some help with pharos01:29
codezeroSeveas, i realized that the problem was because of a bug in fglrx driver...actually it is properly installed as described on the wiki. but the problem is about libGL.so.2 and I should have changed it to solve the problem...I didnt like the solution so I gave up...because ldconfig would probably change the symlinks to the libraries and the problem will arise another time. so I wait for an update on the repository for a new fglrx driver but it seems ther01:29
codezeroe hasnt been any updates recently...bad for ati and ubuntu users01:29
cafuegostopgo: It will keep the existing 686 one, but depending on the version number it might start to boot the newer 386 one by default. If it's just a seciroty fix, nothing will happen.01:29
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romans5n1sethk: yeah, there's CDs and one DVD... take your pick01:29
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Shadow_milHow do I tell gnome to use samba for smb:// address?01:29
sethkromans5n1, so the answer to your original question is, I guess, that the live cd is the install cd only for the desktop install flavor01:30
cyberfall_i think i broken my linux box01:30
constantine-xvidoes anyone know the GPL reasonably well?01:30
cafuegoAdam: No, 'sudo apt-get install linux-686' -> that fetches the latest one (2.6.15.-27)01:30
sethkcyberfall_, is it burning?01:30
cyberfall_it will be01:30
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romans5n1okay... well, thanks for the info... I was pretty sure it was the same, but just wanted to satisfy my curiousity01:30
sethkconstantine-xvi, depends on what you mean by reasonably, I guess.01:30
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sethkcyberfall_, put that flame thrower down NOW01:30
deltabTokenbad: when did it say the drive was full? when trying to add a partition?01:30
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nblitdeltab: what dows this mean? ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM] : Bad address01:31
stopgocafuego: oh. i just have to make sure i'm still using the right image after the update then. easy enough. thanks :)01:31
cafuegostopgo: Yeh, just check the listing in grub01:31
constantine-xvisethk: if you're using GPL stuff in software you never plan on releasing, do you have to release it anyway?01:31
deltabnblit: I guess it's something not supported01:31
Tokenbaddeltab, no...after gparted froze...and I rebooted...01:31
nbliti get this once i run the WPA_SUPPLICANT as follows: sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf airo -w01:32
constantine-xvias in: internal company sw01:32
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jeff_When I read an email in Thunderbird, it disappears after switching folders. After looking, I can't find anything that is set wrong. Anyone have any ideas where to look?01:32
sethkconstantine-xvi, "plan" doesn't matter.  If you ever release it, then you become bound by the provisions relating to released software.01:32
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sethkconstantine-xvi, until then, no, there is no obligation01:32
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constantine-xviexactly what i needed to know01:32
cyberfall_/usr/bin# ./svn01:32
cyberfall_./svn: symbol lookup error: ./svn: undefined symbol: svn_ra_initialize01:32
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sethkcyberfall_, mixed up shared library versions01:33
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mjr(Actually, that's not entirely true. They either abide by the provisions or are guilty of copyright infringement, which is a different matter, but off-topic anyway.)01:33
Borathey, does anyone know how to run in root so i can copy paste files/folders wherever i want?01:33
sethkcyberfall_, how did you get to that point?01:33
cyberfall_umm ok out of the million which one is it hehe01:33
knut_need help by configuring opera 9 for my 64bit system01:33
deltabTokenbad: so that what happened?01:33
cyberfall_oh easy01:33
knut_dont know how to run the 32bit one01:33
sethkmjr, right; the question was about when the provisions go into effect.01:33
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sethkmjr, not specifically what you might be guilty of  :)01:33
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cyberfall_not use the package mannager and compile and install an old version of subversion01:33
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TomChireBorat, sudo nautilus01:34
mjrsethk, I suppose I was trying to read the meaning too strictly :] 01:34
BoratTomChire i <3 you01:34
sethkcyberfall_, that will do it, I guess.01:34
ninja_monkeyAre there any tips on how to setup a laptop-touchpad?01:34
TomChireBorat, i likey you too01:34
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nblitdeltab: i am getting Failed to set encryption when testing the WPA01:34
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ninja_monkeyIt currently bugs me very nice :|01:34
Jebhiya all01:34
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sethkninja_monkey, there is some documentation in the kernel source tree about setting up touchpads.  Also you can find info on the xorg site.01:35
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Tokenbaddeltab, well after gparted froze and it started saying the drive was full...I tried to fix it with fsck....which it did partly...and then I have been trying to figure out where the other 30 gigs went to01:35
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:35
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JebJoyacan anyone give me any advice on installing ubuntu on a slightly low spec system?01:36
deltabTokenbad: gparted froze and started saying the drive was full?01:36
ladydoorJebJoya: install xubuntu?01:36
sethkJebJoya, do the oem install, and then install a low overhead desktop01:36
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nblit<<Can anyone assist with a Thinkpad x31 wifi problem?  PLZ PM ME>>>>01:37
sethkJebJoya, xubuntu basically does that using I think xfce01:37
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nblit<<Can anyone assist with a Thinkpad x31 wifi problem?  PLZ PM ME>>>>01:37
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deltabnblit: you could try another channel with people who know more about wifi. unfortunately I don't know of any01:37
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nblitdeltab: thx01:38
JebJoyamy issue is not being able to run the install program - i was thinking xubuntu, but i noticed the alternate ubuntu cd says it's for installing on less than 192Mb of RAM (the laptop i'm using has 256Mb RAM, but 64 goes to graphics :( )01:38
kitchenblit: ipw2200 chipset01:38
sethkJebJoya, go with text mode only, then01:38
nblitkitchie: No it airo01:38
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sethkJebJoya, at least to begin with01:38
^Ocean^To make a dos 6.22 readable cdrom, do i have to burn it in any fancy way?  Becuase if i just burn it normaly, it see's everything on the CDrom but cannot access it.  like if i do cd dir i get Invalid Directory01:38
sethkJebJoya, use the text mode install on the alternate cd01:38
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nblitkitchie: my wifi card is Cisco/Aironet 350 MiniPCI01:39
chupacabrais there a list of ubuntu packages?  I cannot find mc.01:39
JebJoyaokay, that's cool :)  i was hoping there was something like that on the alternate cd - it's dlaoding atm :)01:39
sethkJebJoya, "text mode" on the alternate cd refers to the fact that the install program is text mode, not that the install itself will be text mode.01:39
ofer0chupacabra, find mc where?01:39
rahmielI'm having some difficulty going through the process of installing and enabling the nvidia drivers. I can install the nvidia-glx, but when I do a nvidia-glx-config, the script fails to run.01:39
sethkJebJoya, so you have to select an install option set that doesn't include a desktop.01:39
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chupacabrain the online packages.01:39
ofer0chupacabra, you can "apt-cache search mc", but it'll give you plenty of results.01:39
dean_can anyone direct me to documentation or help with a problem getting Glade to work on Dapper, the program cannot find required libraries, even though they are installed01:39
ofer0apt-cache search midnight commander, maybe.01:40
sethkchupacabra, you mean the program mc?01:40
JebJoyai think the pc should cope with it when it's installed, it's the livecd it's having issues with - it's not that low spec :)01:40
JebJoya(touch wood ;) )01:40
deltabmc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager01:40
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ofer0dean_, libs such as...?01:40
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sethkchupacabra, package name is mc01:40
ofer0aptitude install it then..01:40
sethkchupacabra, so   sudo apt-get install mc01:40
JebJoyathanks a lot for the help all :)01:40
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dean_libgnomeui, libgnomecanvas et al01:40
chupacabrai'll try again.  whoot01:40
AsadRhow do i install the manpages for function calls like socket(), gethostbyname(), etc. ?01:40
SpaceFrogHow can i change a directory's permissions so that cron can write to it?01:40
sethkchupacabra, if you don't find it, your repository list needs work01:40
ofer0SpaceFrog, what is the currently dir permissions ?01:41
sethkSpaceFrog, you change a directory permission with chmod.  to change a directory including all it's files, you use chmod -R01:41
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rahmielThis happens after doing a nvidia-glx-config: Error: your X configuration has been altered. This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section from nv to nvidia. Running the command causes my 01:41
chupacabraahhhahhh  got it thanks01:41
sethkSpaceFrog, however, you can't say what permissions for a cron job because in general a cron job may run as a variety of users.01:41
JebJoyaoh, also, anyone know what exactly i should look for to get LaTeX when I've installed ubuntu?01:41
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JebJoya(if anyone knows LaTeX, which isn't necessarily that likely... :) )01:42
ofer0sethk, that's only debian cronjobs01:42
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ofer0sethk, on other distros the cronjob is limited to root only01:42
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sethkofer0, no, that's not true.  you can easily modify the default cron operating parameters01:42
SpaceFrogHowever, I'll be copying my configuration to a Debian server01:42
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TomChireIs there a way to adjust volume of xmms via commandline?01:42
yellowhey guys how can i change my firefox user agent in ubuntu ?01:42
kitcheofer0: cron can run as any user01:42
AsadRwhat package contains the manpages for all the system calls and socket api calls, and the other libc functions?01:43
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ofer0kitche, on which distro? :)01:43
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JebJoyano LaTeX users? ah well, i'm sure I'll work it out :)01:43
kitcheofer0: all of the distros01:43
sethkofer0, on all distros.  cron does not change from distro to distro01:43
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ofer0sethk, it is.01:43
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yellowJebJoya:  i'm a latex user01:43
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sethkJebJoya, I use it, but I've not installed it with the package manager01:43
damonkeybonjour tout le monde :)01:43
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ofer0for example, in the distro I use, I don't even have a crontab.01:43
JebJoyai presume it's available through the package manager?01:43
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stodge"*** Warning: X development files not found." - anyone know what packages contain X development files?01:44
sethkJebJoya, I'm not sure, I'll check01:44
JebJoyathanks :)01:44
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ofer0stodge, the packages that ends with -dev01:44
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qatsiwhy could GRUB se my SATA disk as (2,3) when its (0,3) ??? now every time i boot, i need to edit the file...(im going to edit it now so i dont have to) but i still wonder why is that ?01:44
stodgeWhich one01:44
Deraminsethk: what if the chmod doesn't work? I don't get an error, it just does nothing01:44
stodgeThere are several01:44
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kitcheofer0: probably the distro doesn't have crontab installed01:44
Tokenbaddeltab, once it froze and I rebooted yes01:44
sethkJebJoya, yes.  search for packages starting with tetex-01:45
kitcheqatsi: edit the file when you get booted then save it01:45
ofer0kitche, crontab is a package for debian01:45
ferossAdam: ah, sorry had to step away, father-in-law on phone.01:45
ferossAdam: but I see you got it.01:45
qatsikitche: yes, im going to do that, but why did it detected the disk incorrectly ?01:45
JebJoyai guessed it would be tetex, thanks for the help sethx :)01:45
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sethkofer0, the fact that a package named crontab exists for debian does not imply that you cannot install a package that installs a crontab on other distros.01:45
deltabTokenbad: what did you do after rebooting?01:46
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ofer0kitche, please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab01:46
sethkofer0, do you think the other distros say "hey, I won't allow that, because somewhere there is a package called crontab"?01:46
kitcheofer0: on other distros the package is just called cron01:46
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rahmielAnyone a nvidia user or know how to troubleshoot the nvidia-glx-config not working correctly?01:46
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vdepizzolwhen I try to use festival, I get "Can't open /dev/dsp", How I know the program is using it?01:46
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kitcheofer0: I use fcron myself it's easier to use01:46
sethkofer0, crontab can be installed with the package manager, or outside the package manager.01:46
sethkofer0, the package manager does not limit what you can or cannot install01:46
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deltabvdepizzol: fuser /dev/dsp01:47
deltabvdepizzol: fuser /dev/dsp | xargs ps01:47
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jester45would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c?01:47
sethkofer0, all of my ubuntu systems have a crontab.01:47
Tokenbadjust started gparted...then saw that...so tried to remove some stuff to get some space...now it says 55 gigs is used and 16 gigs is free...even though before I tried to partition...there was only 45 gigs used...and I removed prob 10 gigs of that when I deleted those movies01:47
Tokenbaddeltab, just started gparted...then saw that...so tried to remove some stuff to get some space...now it says 55 gigs is used and 16 gigs is free...even though before I tried to partition...there was only 45 gigs used...and I removed prob 10 gigs of that when I deleted those movies01:47
ofer0sethk, what you are saying has nothing to do with my claim, so let's leave it alone for now01:47
beunodoes anyone know if I need 2 DNS to resolve a domain or I can use just 1?01:47
ofer0beuno, which domain is taht?01:47
JebJoyanow, more importantly, how long til Lost is on? ;)01:47
deltabwhat says that?01:47
ofer0beuno, that*01:47
vdepizzoldeltab, and how can I exit it?01:48
ofer0JebJoya, 2-5 hours01:48
sethkbeuno, to act as the DNS for a domain, you need a primary and secondary DNS server.01:48
beunoofer0, Ive got a bind server installed, ANY domain01:48
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ofer0sethk, not on all TLDs01:48
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beunosethk, can one network card have 2 IPs?01:48
sethkbeuno, you need two.01:48
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deltabvdepizzol: exit what?01:48
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gu014hello, i am trying to install apache 2 and phpmyadmin..both are installed but when i try to click 'phpmyadmin' at local host from firefox it attempts to download some .phtml file? can anyone help me out with this problem?>01:48
sethkbeuno, one network card can have 1000 IPs, but that's cheating.01:48
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jester45would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c?01:49
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berentsethk: how01:49
sethkberent, how what?01:49
dean_anyone know anything about Glade?01:49
beunosethk, the situation is I have 1 nic on the server, how can I asign it 2 IPs?01:49
jmerlinnobody here knows how to configure printers on ubuntu.. nice..01:49
ofer0sethk, some of them, can work with one. some of them can work with 2, but on the same IP. some of them (such as .com, .net, etc..) can only work with 2 IPs.01:49
darkanyelhow can i use thunar as default????01:49
berentsethk:how can one card have 1000ips at the same time01:49
sethkbeuno, you can install an alias for a card as follows:01:49
ofer0beuno, did you pay for additional IPs ?01:49
beunoofer0, yes I did01:50
vdepizzoldeltab, the program is using /dev/dsp01:50
beunoI've got one of them working01:50
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ofer0beuno, you have to create a virtual interface named eth0:1 ( for example ) and assign the next IP to it.01:50
sethkbeuno, you use the notation:   eth#:#         as in:   eth0:101:50
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godtvisk1ncan anyone suggest some good dvd ripping software?01:50
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ofer0beuno, for example: ifconfig eth0:1 ip.ip.ip.ip up01:51
beunoso to make it eth2, I would have to do eth0:2, right?01:51
sethkbeuno, so you can do   ifconfig eth0:1  ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###01:51
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ANTDx1Hello everyone.01:51
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sethkbeuno, and that adds another IP address for eth001:52
ofer0beuno, then you use BIND9 to create the DNS entries for it. first the SOA for the domain and then something like "ns1.yourdomain.com. IN A ip1.ip1.ip1.ip1" and "ns2.yourdomain.com. IN A ip2.ip2.ip2.ip2"01:52
ANTDx1Could someone please help walk me through the process to set up my broadcom 4318 wireless card in Ubuntu 6.06 with amd-6401:52
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Tokenbaddeltab, so somewhere it is saying some of the space is used even though its not...01:52
ANTDx1I tried using some instructions on the forum, and ended up being unable to boot, which is bad.01:52
ofer0beuno, please allow some time for name servers to sync. if you got MX records too, it can take days.01:52
ANTDx1ndiswrapper kept halting the boot process01:53
jester45would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c i realy need it to work i have a project due and no way to print it01:53
beunosethk, it adds the IP to eth0, but I reference it as eth2, right?01:53
berentsethk:so both eth0 and eth1 have same ip01:53
deltabbeuno: the alias can be a name; it doesn't have to be a number01:53
sethkbeuno, no, eth0:201:53
sethkberent, in my example, eth0 and eth0:1 have different IPs01:53
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sethkberent, nothing in my example is about any pair of anything having the same IP01:54
beunosethk, that's exactly what I need, 2 different IPs01:54
deltabor eth0:external, or whatever01:54
darkanyelhow can i use thunar as default and not nautilus????01:54
beunothis is in /etc/network/interfaces we're talking about, right?01:54
sethkbeuno, right, so both  eth0   and eth0:1   are the eth0 device, but the IPs are different01:54
sethkbeuno, I'm talking about how you actually run the ifconfig command01:54
sethkbeuno, how that translates to the configuration file I would have to check.01:54
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sethkbeuno, I don't bother with that, I just add ifconfig's to the end of rc.local01:55
beunowhat about adding it to interfaces so it's there permanenlty?01:55
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berentsethk : so both eth0 eth1 will get consecutive ips01:55
sethkbeuno, you can do that, I just have to check the syntax01:55
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Tokenbaddeltab, this is what cfdisk says: hdd1         Boot         Primary    Linux ext3                          77778.2501:55
Tokenbad    hdd5                      Logical    Linux ReiserFS                       2245.5101:55
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sethkberent, the IPs don't have to be consecutive.  just two arbitrary IPs, totally unrelated to each other01:55
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ferossjester45: tried hplip?01:55
sethkTokenbad, ah, you've run into the reiserfs bug that everyone yells at me for talking about.01:56
beunosethk, would you be so kind?  for cleanness sake01:56
sethkbeuno, I'll look at it, yes.01:56
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berentsethk : if u do ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### then u speify one ip where is the other01:56
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:56
deltabTokenbad: you said "it is saying"  what is saying that?01:56
chrometigercan someone help me mount my cdrom "well make sure it isn't already working" and make it so its mounted at boot ?01:56
jester45feross: i will try it01:56
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kitcheberent: you will ifconfig eth0:2 for another ip or eth0:001:57
sethkberent, you do:    ifconfig eth0 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###    then, you do   ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###01:57
Tokenbadsethk, well don't know about that...but the drive says basicly that it is has 55 gigs used..when it should only be like 35 gigs used...01:57
sethkberent, two separate commands01:57
berentsethk : thanks01:57
sethkberent, each assigns an IP to eth001:57
SuperQanyone know where mkinird find the list of modules to include?01:57
ofer0chrometiger, yes, I can help you. Please paste the output of "cat /etc/fstab", "cat /etc/mtab", "mount -l" in pastebin.ca.01:57
Tokenbaddeltab, gparted01:57
sethkTokenbad, definitely bad news.01:57
sethkTokenbad, back up anything important immediately01:57
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berentsethk : can both of them communicate .will they have different macs or some virtual setting01:58
chrometiger/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:58
sethkberent, same MAC01:58
chrometigerline for cdrom01:58
sethkberent, remember, at the network layer IP addresses are not used01:58
sethkberent, both IP addresses map to the same MAC, since they are the same card.01:59
sethkberent, to make an interface have more than one MAC, you have to modify the device driver01:59
chrometigeris it already mnt'ed01:59
ferosssethk: hey, you're talking on how to set IP's to the nic but then on reboot it will loose those settings. It can be put into /etc/network/interfaces so that it's there as default if I'm not mistaken.01:59
deltabchrometiger: the  user,noauto  make it not happen at boot, but allows you to mount it as an ordinary user01:59
sethkfeross, yes, of course01:59
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beunofeross, he did say he added the line in rc.local01:59
deltabchrometiger: run mount or df to see if it's mounted01:59
sethkfeross, however, that isn't how I do it01:59
berentsethk : so if u ping ips u will get a dup ack for sure01:59
sethkberent, nope02:00
sethkberent, try it.02:00
sethkberent, why would you get a dup ack?02:00
jester45feross: i searched for hplib and i seen none in the repo should it be in the repo02:00
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chrometigerdoing mount doesn't look like it02:00
berentsethk: won't it refer same mac02:00
sethkberent, sure, so what?02:00
ferossjester45: it's in your System>admin02:00
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sethkberent, ping just says "IP ##### please respond"02:00
sethkberent, and IP ##### does.02:01
deltabchrometiger: mount /dev/hdc  or  mount /media/cdrom0  will mount it now02:01
sethkberent, you will get the MAC address more than once in the ARP table, but that doesn't hurt anything.02:01
berentsethk : yeah thats true02:01
chrometigerno medium found02:01
jester45feross: o im in xubuntu no body in that channle could help me02:01
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JebJoyafinal question - how easy is it to go from ubuntu to xubuntu once installed (i presume it's doable in-OS?)02:02
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ferosssethk: hmm ok if it's in the rc.local I guess it will work but IMHO putting it in interfaces works better in case you need to netoworking restart *shrug* also just seems cleaner.02:02
DShepherdhello :-)(02:02
nblitQ: how do i disable a driver from loading02:03
deltabchrometiger: if you have a disc in, of course!02:03
ferossjester45: oh, hmm ok wait a sec02:03
DShepherdhow do i reformat a usb disk to a vfat partition?02:03
sethkfeross, perhaps.  I prefer methods that aren't distro specific.  If I want to restart the interface, I just use the ifconfig command.  I'm not saying my way is better, just that it works.02:03
jester45feross: sorry for not telling you i was hopeing that iwouldnt need it02:03
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chrometigergot it, um ok so can i make this auto mount or do i have to type that everytime i stick another cd in ?02:03
deltabDShepherd: what is it currently?02:03
nblitQ: how do i disable a driver from loading??02:03
RopechoborraHow do i change the permissions to a directory and all the files in it?02:04
deltabchrometiger: yes, edit /etc/fstab and change noauto to auto02:04
DShepherddeltab: not sure.. i think its ext302:04
ofer0DShepherd, mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda02:04
chrometigerthank u02:04
deltabchrometiger: oh, you mean something else02:04
nblitRopechoborra open a terminal and type man chmod02:04
DShepherdofer0: thanks02:04
ferossjester45: /usr/bin/hp-toolbox  try that02:04
ofer0Ropechoborra, chmod -R XXX dir/02:04
deltabchrometiger: so don't do that, unless you want to mount on boot02:04
ZarephathAnyone know of a free dynamic dns service that will allow a record to be added for ftp? US only please...I currently use zoneedit..but I can only run mx and A02:04
ofer0Ropechoborra, XXX = your permissions. for example: 75502:04
DShepherdofer0: its not wise to do this as root if I want other users to use this right?02:05
sethknblit, remove it's driver from /lib/modules/xxxxxx     :)02:05
chrometigerwill that hurt anything ?02:05
ofer0DShepherd, it doesn't matter. it will matter when you'll want to mount it.02:05
ferosssethk: sure :) I can see your point.02:05
sethkDShepherd, it's not wise to use numbers instead of symbols.02:05
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qatsiok, i really need help wetting up my network card...can anyone help me ?02:06
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deltabZarephath: you need an A record02:06
ferossZarephath: what deltab said... beat me to it :P02:06
ofer0Zarephath, zonedit, xname02:06
cgeI am trying to test some headphones, and I would like to be able to play a sine wave at different frequencies. Does anyone know an easy way to do this?02:06
ofer0Zarephath, oh, didn't see there's another line.02:06
Zarephathdeltab: yeah but their web interface doesn't allow me to add an entry for ftp vs...www02:06
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nblitsethk, r u sure?02:07
ofer0Zarephath, check xname.org, check the option of running your own DNS server.02:07
qatsianyone here uses an  Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT Network card??02:07
ninja_monkeySo, there no chance for me with an x64 ubuntu to view flash?02:08
beunosethk, I went through the man interfaces(5) and google, and I still can't find anything,  any luck?02:08
Zarephathofer0: Kewl thanks...will do appreciate the info all!02:08
sethknblit, I'm sure that will work.  I'm not saying it's the right way to do it.02:08
DShepherdofer0: how can i give the disk the name?02:08
deltabZarephath: what are you trying to do?02:08
ofer0ninja_monkey, you can run 32bit firefox inside a 32bit chroot() jail.02:08
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nblitsethk, i would prefer doing it the right way02:08
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DShepherdI meant 'a' ofer002:08
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ofer0DShepherd, I don't understand what you mean02:08
jester45feross: i see no hp-toolbox02:08
ninja_monkeyofer0: okey, sounds advanced :)02:09
sethkbeuno, did you try adding an entry exactly like all the others, but using the eth#:# notation?  there is no need for anything in the man page for interfaces to change02:09
xenoNfluXthis may or may not have much to do with Shoutcast specifically.... how might I go about having the Shoutcast server run in the background, or even at boot? (currently I have to do ./sc_serv to run it, and it doesnt drop me back at a bash prompt)02:09
oiadhi, im trying to compile pyxfce, but get this when doing make http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/NRdXqP48.html02:09
sethkbeuno, all you are doing is using a different interface name.02:09
oldskool3I'm loading from ubuntu cd, X64.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens.. is it because I have ATi?02:09
ofer0ninja_monkey, not at all. use debootstrap to create the chroot. then chroot into it, and install firefox. run it from there. that's all.02:09
beunosethk, no, I'm a bit afraid I loose remote connection to the datacenter and I can't access the server again  ;D02:09
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jrib!info  python-xfce02:09
ubotuPackage python-xfce does not exist in any distro I know02:09
deltabsethk: note the alias doesn't have to be a number, as you're implying02:09
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sethkdeltab, I didn't imply anything02:10
DShepherdofer0: by defualt when formatting the disk it is called 'usbdisk'.02:10
deltabseemed to be implying02:10
DShepherdofer0: is there a way to specify a name02:10
ferossjester45: install hplip02:10
sethkdeltab, although, I admit, I can't see any reason for using anything other than a number, but if you like using something else, have fun02:10
oiadjrib thats why im trying to compile it?02:10
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media_Is there an X command to get the current resolution?  I need to get those values so I can force firefox to start full screen regardless what resolution I may have started up as (for a media system)02:10
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ninja_monkeyofer0: Right, before I do anything I feel I have to read some before I do anything. What's debootstrap?02:10
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ofer0ninja_monkey, it is used to download a debian system into a chrootable directory02:11
jester45feross: i dont see it in the repos do i have to get it from the web?02:11
deltabsethk: doing so might lessen the confusion between eth0:1 and eth102:11
sethkdeltab, eth0, eth1, etc., don't have to be numbers either, but you to keep oneself sane ...02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hpliy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
jriboiad: yes, I know :)  It showed up in edgy though so I thought it would probably be there in dapper.  Can you translate your error to english?02:11
beunosethk, how does this look to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25706/02:11
sethkdeltab, I'm not confused, but ok.  :)02:11
ubotuhplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB02:11
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sethkdeltab, that's a point02:11
oiadah sorry02:11
deltabsethk: not you02:11
ofer0DShepherd, not that I know of. I'm not a graphics designer, I'm a system adminstrator and programmer. I don't care how the disk is called.02:11
sethkdeltab, yes, I know what you meant.  I hadn't thought about it, but I don't disagree with you.02:12
DShepherdofer0: ok kool02:12
jester45i will check again02:12
DShepherdofer0: thanks anyways.. lata man02:12
ofer0DShepherd, cya around02:12
ferossjester45: hmm looks like it's in main should be there02:12
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deltabI think it's possible to add multiple addresses to one interface too02:12
sethkbeuno, I'd leave out the network, broadcast, gateway, and dns part02:12
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xenoNfluXhow might I go about having a server application run in the background or run at boot?02:12
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sethkdeltab, I don't see how.  if it is possible, it would be a very bad idea to do so.02:13
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jester45xenoNfluX: what kind of sever app02:13
sethkbeuno, you don't need routing for machines on the same subnet, and it would be unusual to need routing for an alias.02:13
oldskool3I'm loading from ubuntu cd, X64.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens. Is it because I have ATi?02:13
acehello can someone help explain to me how to exit the menu that shows up when my comptuer boots up? (I guess the grub menu?)02:13
xenoNfluXjester45, Shoutcast02:13
jribace: /boot/grub/menu.lst02:13
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sethkbeuno, I'd make eth0:1 have only the address and netmask parameters02:13
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acejrib: thanks02:13
ofer0ace, what do you mean by "exit the menu"? if you exit the menu you won't have an O.S. running02:14
ninja_monkeyIs there a way to disable the "tap to click"-feature on the touchpad?02:14
beunoand on the first line, where I set auto lo eth0 eth1 eth202:14
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jester45xenoNfluX: i dont know about that i think there is a setting to auto load programs at system start02:14
beunoI should set eth0:1, right?02:14
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acejrib: it said permissin benied02:14
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xenoNfluXjester45, I know how to configure and run it... I'm just wondering if I can run it in the background and at startup02:14
jribace: use a text-editor and sudo to edit it02:14
jribubotu: tell ace about sudo02:14
jribace: what do you want to do exactly?02:15
deltabsethk: ip addr add dev lo02:15
xenoNfluXI'll see if I can dig up info on setting cronjobs on boot02:15
acejrib: I want to take away one of the options when I updated ubuntu it added another ubuntu02:15
aceJrib: like one for the old ubuntu and one for the updated ubuntu02:15
ofer0xenoNfluX, yes. TIMTOWTDI. anyway, you can symlink it to /etc/rc2.d/S99something02:15
oiadjrib http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/LysqpD35.html02:15
sethkdeltab, I would have to see what ifconfig command you are really talking about.  I don't wade through the macros to see what that actuallyl does.02:15
sethkdeltab, however, as I said, if it is possible, it is an extremely bad idea.02:15
oiadthis is the ./configure output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/X7ScwB72.html02:16
jribace: you should be able to just remove the old kernel package (linux-image-*), but it is a good idea to keep 2 around imo.  One you know that works from before, and the new one02:16
deltabsethk: macros?02:16
aceJrib: oo ok I just needed want it taking up to much space02:16
acedidnt* please excuse my typing02:16
sethkdeltab, macros.  the things down in the rc.d directory, various scripts and such, that take the config files and other inputs and produce the ifconfig commands, which is what the o/s actually understands02:16
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matt8806suomihow big should ubuntu be after install02:17
beunosethk, I tried it on a different server (local), and I get this:    /etc/network/interfaces:15: duplicate option02:17
jester45feross: what about hp-ppd02:17
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deltabsethk: oh, I'm not using those02:17
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sethkbeuno, ok, I would have to figure it out.  since my problem is solved with the ifconfig, I've never been motivated to do so.02:17
ferossjester45: not sure.. what does man hp-ppd say?02:17
ofer0ace, it is the best for you to keep ALL old kernels, unless you have a good reason to not do so. maybe now you don't need it - but when you'll have kernel problems you'll be sorry about it.02:17
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jester45HP Postscript Printer Definition (PPD) files'02:18
sethkdeltab, oh, you are using the ip binary, sorry, didn't read carefully enough02:18
beunosethk, I guess I can do it with ifconfig then for now, what was the command again?02:18
aceofer0: ok thanks for the advice ill be sure not to mess with it or anything02:18
oldskool3I'm loading from ubuntu cd, ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens. Is it because I have ATi?02:18
deltabsethk: I don't think ifconfig supports it02:18
sethkbeuno, ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###   (eth0:1 is for example; as has been pointed out, the syntax is eth0:anything)02:18
sethkdeltab, of course it does.  I do it every day.02:18
ofer0ace, you can remove REALLY REALLY old entries by commenting them out on /boot/grub/menu.lst, but don't do anything further unless you have a good reason.02:18
larrywset timestamp_string =02:18
beunomy mistake02:19
beunoit DOES work02:19
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sethkbeuno, oh, good.  Now we know.  :)02:19
deltabsethk: adding multiple addresses to one interface?02:19
aceofer): oo ok I dont really have any really really old entries02:19
beunoI mistiped "iface"02:19
sethkdeltab, no, using aliases.02:19
jriboiad: I'm not sure what is going on there, but I can suggest that you download the source package for edgy and try compiling that instead02:19
deltabsethk: ah, I wasn't talking about aliases02:19
ferossjester45: it might be e depend to hplip but it probably won't work on it's own. Weird that you can't get hplip, no xfce interface for it? I use gnome so I wouldn't know, you'll have to do some research on that and if necessary download and install hplip manually.02:19
sethkdeltab, I thought you meant ifconfig doesn't support aliases.  I'm half asleep  :)02:19
aceofer0: what if i commented it out, could I use a livecd and change it back if my current kernel got messed up?02:19
matt8806suomi####how big should ubuntu be after install####02:20
sethkace, sure02:20
oiadthanks jrib02:20
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deltabsethk: actually, when I used its add command, it created an alias02:20
ofer0ace, so don't touch it for now. you are going to do something which is very dangerous. if you comment it out, you can use GRUB itself to remove your comments, with the "edit" option. nice and easy.02:20
jester45feross: think this could work? libprinterconf0c2a - Printer autodetection library02:20
sethkdeltab, ok, that makes sense.02:20
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aceoferO: OO ok yea i dont wanna do ti then02:20
ferossjester45: nah, same as hp-ppd02:21
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aceoferO: ok thanks for your help!02:21
beunosethk, thank you VERY much02:21
ofer0ace, have fun.02:21
sethkbeuno, np02:21
deltaband ifconfig can't see past the first address assigned to the interface02:21
ofer0deltab, /proc can02:21
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ferossjester45: usually hplip is installed by default. I know I've had to turn off the service just so it's not sucking up cpu cycles in the background. I don't havy any printer setup on the lappy I'm on. Also turned off cups.02:22
jester45feross: they have things for the officejet and lasrjet but not deskjet :(02:22
deltabsure, but my point is that ifconfig only allows access to some of what's possible02:22
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ninja_monkeyis there a way to check and see if another application has locked an administration path?02:23
ninja_monkeyerr.. directory02:23
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ofer0ninja_monkey, what is an admin dir ?02:23
ofer0ninja_monkey, and why would anybody lock it?02:23
knut_need help by configuring opera 9 for my 64bit system02:23
knut_dont know how to run the 32bit one02:23
deltabTokenbad: backed up your important files?02:23
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bashusrhey... can i install ubuntu from another distro?02:24
bashusror from an old ubuntu live CD?02:24
Tokenbaddeltab, not yet...was hoping not have to do that02:24
bashusri got a real old one... ubuntu 4...02:24
ferossjester45: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184838  read there02:24
Dr_willisbashusr,  ick.02:25
ninja_monkeyofer0: Well.. don't ask me, I just installed Ubuntu :) I tried to go "sudo apt-get install xx" but I got an error message saying "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proccess using ut?"02:25
deltabTokenbad: it's a good thing to do anyway, especially when doing things affected filesystems and disks02:25
bashusrDr_willis: yeah. help? :-P02:25
Dr_willisbashusr,  it  may be possible - but it sure wouldent be trivial02:25
ofer0ninja_monkey, yes, you probably have synaptic running.02:25
ofer0ninja_monkey, the program that installs other applications02:25
ninja_monkeyAh, yea, thanks..02:25
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Dr_willisbashusr,  that 'ubuntu hacks' book mentioned using debootstrap  for a xen install.. but ive never tried it.02:25
ninja_monkeyofer0: works, thanks.02:26
bashusrDr_willis: command line trivial... or manually partitioning, installing GRUB, and making my own kernel trivial?02:26
Dr_willisbashusr,  all of those are rather trivial. :P02:26
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bashusrDr_willis: uh...02:26
deltabapt-get could tell you what program's got the lock02:26
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reterif your system saids its broken what do you do?02:26
bashusrDr_willis: what kinda trivial are you talking about?02:26
Dr_willisbashusr,   ive never used debootstrap which i would THINK would be the way to do that..02:26
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jsleeperanyone running ubuntu on a sun blade 100?02:26
Dr_willisbashusr,  may want to check the forums/wikis - they may have some detailed docs.02:27
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Dr_willisbashusr,  it may be possible if you had more then 1 machine to get an iso, and do a net boot/install..   but  not sure why you are  needing to go about this in such a hard way.02:27
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knut_why does nobody help me :(02:28
knut_damn support02:28
lmosherIs there any way to connect to a wireless access point using WPA or WPA2? The only key options I see in the wireless GUI are for WEP02:28
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wickedpuppyknut_, first ... its possible that nobody got 64 bit here ... at least those who are alive .. second we are not support .. we are volunteer helpers02:29
Pierreknut_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava should work for opera as well02:29
kitchelmosher: yes make sure you have wpa_supplicant installed02:29
SuperQlmosher: you need a wpa config02:29
sbor7052I have a quick and dirty question, can someone direct me to a resource for managing users/groups etc from the command line? Yes, I know google exists, I am looking for somethign ubuntu specific02:29
ferosslmosher: go to  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com  .. have a minihowto for WPA.02:29
lmosherkitche, SuperQ ok I've installed both of those (well apt is currently crunching) after that?02:30
lmosherah ok thanks feross02:30
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M_Fatihhi all. when i try to copy a dvd iso file (4.4GB) cp and mv commands error like this "File size limit exceeded" how can i copm/move my files?02:30
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jester45feross: q thanksfor you help i really need to srt looking at the ubuntu site more hopefully i dont need to come back02:30
kitcheM_Faith: fat32?02:31
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mjrM_Fatih, you're probably trying to copy to a fat partition. It won't happen.02:31
chupacabrawhat are the keystrokes for changing desktops in Gnome?02:31
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ofer0chupacabra, ctrl+alt+left/right02:31
ofer0chupacabra, ctrl+alt+left/right/up/down02:31
bruenigchupacabra, you mean workspaces?02:31
M_Fatihmjr, :(( yes :( so, i can't do it..02:31
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A-L-P-H-Awhat's a cli random password generator for linux called?02:31
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ofer0A-L-P-H-A, pwgen02:31
A-L-P-H-Aofer0, thanks02:32
ofer0A-L-P-H-A, have fun02:32
sbor7052I have a quick and dirty question, can someone direct me to a resource for managing users/groups etc from the command line? Yes, I know google exists, I am looking for somethign ubuntu specific02:32
chupacabrasweet.  xfce is ctl 1,2,3,402:32
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A-L-P-H-Aofer0, I'll try... :)02:32
M_Fatihmjr, can i copy 2.5GB file? if i split this flie and copy to fat part.. is it possible?02:32
jbjulyhow do I use generic names in desktop menus?02:32
jribsbor7052: adduser, but it's not ubuntu specific02:32
codecaineanyone know what gedit key bindings are?02:32
chupacabrajust more places to run EWterm02:32
ofer0sbor7052, ubuntu specific? don't know anything about it. just use "adduser addgroup usermod groupmod passwd gpasswd"02:32
mjrM_Fatih, yes02:32
xenoNfluXcould anyone help me figure out the syntax for writing a tiny boot script?02:32
Tokenbaddeltab, I know but when not have disk to burn to...or space to backup to02:33
sbor7052ofer: ty what I was looking for02:33
M_Fatihmjr, yeha.. i'm tryin.. thanks body02:33
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knut_pierre im using firefox, but i want opera '-.-02:33
codecaineAnyone in here able to help me figure out what the key bindings are in gedit for editing files?02:33
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bruenigknut_, sudo apt-get install opera02:33
ferossxenoNfluX: first line '#!/bin/bash'  then commands after it.. save the text file then 'chmod +x filename' then ./filename to execute.02:33
bashusrfine fine02:34
knut_gives an error bruinig02:34
bashusri'll waste a CD02:34
knut_too old version02:34
bashusrand burn02:34
xenoNfluXfeross, thanks, will try02:34
bashusrburn burn burn baby!02:34
Pierreknut_: can you please *read* this page? it describes the way to configure linux32, it should work as well for opera.02:34
jbjulyhow do I use generic names in desktop menus?02:34
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deltabTokenbad: okay, at least run ls -lR02:34
knut_okay, then i try it, thx pierre.. :)02:34
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ferossjbjuly: hmm. can you be more specific?02:35
wickedpuppyjbjuly, pls defind generic .. and give us an example ?02:35
knut_but now i have to go to bed02:35
knut_thank you and good night, byby!02:35
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jbjulyI want to use "Web Browser" instead of "Firefox Web Browser" I saw the .desktop file and there's a defined Name= and GenericName=, I want to use the GenericName02:36
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qatsii need help with a Encore network card, please help me...it wont install/start02:36
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matt8806suomi##How do i play WMV files in ubuntu (gnome)02:37
jribubotu: tell matt8806suomi about wmv02:37
sethkbrb, dog walking02:38
Darkazelalguien habla espagnol_02:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:38
M_Fatihanother question : how can i rip my dvd's to xvid or divx (any good compression types)?02:38
Darkazelok thx02:38
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qatsiDarkazel: yo, but its better that we go to the es channel...02:38
ferossqatsi: google says you need to compile drivers manually02:38
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xenoNfluXfeross, that worked... thanks... another quick Q, is there a way I could get an app to run in the background? The script executed on boot just fine, but it takes over my boot screen (and since its running server, it doesnt give me a bash prompt unless I SSH in)02:38
LilandraDoes anyone know why azureus depends on mozilla-browser?02:38
Dr_willis!info dvdrip02:38
ubotudvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB02:39
wickedpuppyjbjuly, eh ah ... then change the name to the name you wish to be ? btw if you use firefox pls admit you are using firefox .. i think its only fair to the developers02:39
qatsifeross: yes, i did that, and the network worked, i updated my system, but when i rebooted it wouldnt start/work..02:39
Celesteis there an inofficial apt-get server which offers a package for "xpde" (thats a windows manager or maybe desktop environment)02:39
Tokenbaddeltab, from what dir02:39
Dr_willisxpde - ICK. :P02:39
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Dr_willis!info xpde02:39
ubotuPackage xpde does not exist in any distro I know02:39
ferossqatsi: you need to do the install again as you did the first time.02:39
matt8806suomijrib: thanks02:40
CelesteDr_willis, I need this for an internet cafe02:40
Tokenbaddeltab, and what does it do?02:40
qatsifeross: every time i need to run the card ?02:40
CelesteDr_willis, myself, I will use KDE ;)02:40
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Dr_willisCeleste,  last i used xpde - it wasent even useable.. it was so... nasty02:40
ofer0Celeste, maybe XFCE ?02:40
ferossqatsi: no every time the kernel updates.02:40
Dr_willisCeleste,  icewm + a windows95 theme is a better choice...02:40
deltabTokenbad: list all files, recursively02:40
Dr_willisor jwm, or some other window manager02:40
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Tokenbaddeltab, ok why would I do that? to check files?02:40
qatsifeross: uhmm, ok...il try doing the same thank you02:40
Darkazelnobody in the ubuntu-es02:41
ofer0you can have icewm with redmondxp theme02:41
ofer0you'll even have the "Start" button!02:41
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deltabTokenbad: the idea is to visit each directory in the filesystem, to make sure it's reachable and doesn't contain junk02:41
Dr_willisor theres even some kde taskbars and themes that make it more windowish02:41
ferossxenoNfluX: If you put an & it will put it in the background02:41
Celesteok I will try out all your ideas Dr_willis. and ofer002:41
Darkazelwell somebody knows where i can download the drivers for my motherboard???02:41
deltabTokenbad: or you could run fsck again02:41
qatsiDarkazel: i suggest driverguide.com02:41
CelesteDr_willis, I will rejoin the kde channel for asking you a question there02:42
xenoNfluXfeross, like "./sc_serv &" ?02:42
ofer0Darkazel, maybe from your drivers manufactor official website?02:42
ferossxenoNfluX: right02:42
xenoNfluXfeross, thanks again :)02:42
Darkazelok.. but ubuntu support??02:42
ofer0Darkazel, s/drivers/hardware/ # I'm tired.02:42
ofer0Darkazel, maybe, we'll going to have to check. which motherboard model are we talking about?02:42
Darkazelu8668 grand...02:42
jbjulywickedpuppy: is there any keyword just to insert so it will use the GenericName?02:43
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PauloFurquimPls somebody knows how I start a maxell flash drive stick under ubuntu 6.06 LTS?02:43
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qatsiPauloFurquim: it should start automatically02:43
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Darkazelits my first time in this ... someone can help me?02:44
lmosherI jujst installed networkmanager. WHen I left click on this I do not see an option "connect to other wireless network"... why?02:44
highnekoHow can I find out what my video card version is?02:44
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ofer0Darkazel, unfortunately, your hardware manufactor didn't bother to create drivers for linux too, so you'll have to improvise something.02:44
wickedpuppyjbjuly, no ... from what i seen the name of the program is the name you will see ... create a shortcut on the panel on the top and right click on it .. and play with it .. btw why are you against the names ? i don't feel very good honestly ..02:44
jbjulycan someone share the /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ directory that SLED 10 use?02:44
lmoshermy wireless card is eth1, not wlan0... it's an intel prowireless.02:44
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pooh_beawr_what do you think the best alternative to amarok is?02:45
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mistraalis there any way of determining what packages were installed in the last update?02:45
qatsiDarkazel: checa la pestana02:45
jbjulywickedpuppy: no, I just want to know how it looks like when I use GenericName02:45
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codecaineI am looking for gedit keybindings, can anyone help me?  I want to know what keys do what while editing files.02:45
Darkazelcual pestagna_02:45
ofer0mistraal, yes, you can read the APT logfile.02:45
bimberimistraal: look in /var/log/dpkg.log02:45
Harksawdumb question: how do you take a screenshot in ubuntu?02:45
wickedpuppyjbjuly, then just change the name to the name you wish ... then revert back ... simple02:45
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ofer0Harksaw, you can use "scrot"02:45
PauloFurquimqatsi, I plug into usb and nothing happens...02:45
ofer0Harksaw, sudo aptitude install scrot02:45
bimberiHarksaw: hit the Print Screen button02:45
qatsiDarkazel: te envie un mensaje personal, seguro se abrio en una penstana (si usas GAIM) o en otra ventana, si usas otro IRC02:46
wickedpuppyHarksaw, application -> accessories -> take screen shot02:46
Harksawahhh, i was trying ctrl+print scr02:46
jbjulywickedpuppy: thanks!, IMO, there's should be a way to do it, I guess it's not proposed yet02:46
qatsiPauloFurquim: check if the usb works, else try to mout it manually02:46
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bimberiHarksaw: unlearn that windows :)02:46
bimberiHarksaw: np :)02:46
wickedpuppyjbjuly, nobody will propose and nobody will implement it ... can you imagine photoshop icon saying photo editing software ?02:47
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ArrenLexHarksaw: why don't you just press print screen? Honestly? Can anyone even begin to justify the purpose of using a program to take a screenshot?02:47
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martalliWhat is the apt-get equivalent of the ubuntu update manager?  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade or apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?02:47
wickedpuppyArrenLex, actually i wonder why is it in the program listing ... lol02:47
HarksawArrenLex, I sure can't02:48
jribmartalli: upgrade02:48
Dr_willisArrenLex,  seen them used in an automated way to make a 'animation' of some task. :P02:48
ArrenLexmartalli: If you use upgrade, it won't install packages if you need to install new packages to update them: i.e. if when going from foobar v2 to foobar v3 you added a new dependency and have to install the sithblob package too. dist-upgrade would also install sithblob.02:49
ArrenLexDr_willis: well sure, but that doesn't seem to be what he's after.02:49
LilandraHi, is gij sun java?02:49
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Dr_willisLilandra,  No its not.02:49
ArrenLexLilandra: no; GNU interpreter for Java02:49
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ArrenLexInterpreter *02:49
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jbjulyIs there a sled 10 channel in freenode, I want to ask them fo send me theri /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ so I can use it with ubuntu. I saw gnome-main-menu in edgy repository.02:49
Lilandrais there Sun Java for ppc linux?02:49
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martalliSo for a conservative system (like my partner's computer he uses for typing and firefox, I should just stick to upgrade.02:50
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CelesteI need to restart02:50
Celestewill be back soon02:50
lmosherCan anyone help me figure out how to install WPA?02:50
derekSis it possible to use fetchmail to download (via pop or imap) a subdir of a maildir?02:50
ArrenLexmartalli: whatever suits your needs.02:50
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martallithanks for the advice, guys02:51
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qatsiis there a reverse function to insmod ? like, to delete a model from the kernel ?02:51
deltabderekS: if the server makes it available, it should be possible02:51
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deltabqatsi: rmmod02:51
derekSdeltab: how?02:51
qatsideltab: thanks, ill try it :)02:51
derekSon a gui imap client, it works....02:51
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deltabderekS: by subdir I presume you mean a nested maildir, and not one of the tmp, new, cur dirs that make up a maildir02:52
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qatsiok, now my network card is working...:) lets see if it works after reboot :p02:53
MrKeunerhi, I am having problem with php. Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0 what does this mean.02:53
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derekSdeltab: thats what i do mean02:54
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sethkMrKeuner, line 0 in unknown means it doesn't know what file and it doesn't know what line02:55
sethkMrKeuner, failed to open stream probably means that it tried to create a pipe and didn't have the privileges, but that's just an educated guess.02:56
sethkMrKeuner, heavier on the guess side than the educated side02:56
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derekSdeltab: any suggestions?02:56
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SkramXi am on hoary right now.. can i upgrade to dapper without reinstalling?02:56
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sethkderekS, if you don't mind a bit of programming, you could do it in python using an imap library.02:57
sethkderekS, I imagine perl has the same capability02:57
ferossSkramX: you should be able to change your sources.list to point to dapper then do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ..02:57
derekSsethk: it can't be done with fetchmail?02:58
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SkramXfeross: okay02:58
SkramXwill do02:58
deltabderekS: folder, -r02:58
derekSahh nice02:58
qatsiok, i have a crappy network card, and every time i reboot, i have to do sudo rmmod sundance.ko and then insmod ./sundance.ko and then it works. I could simply do a script that executes everytime i boot, but...i think theres another way around, could ou think of any ? thank you02:58
ferossSkramX: well remember to do an 'apt-get update' once the source.list is changed then the dist-upgrade02:58
sethkderekS, not sure02:58
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ArrenLexSkram: of course:02:59
ArrenLexsudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:59
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Tokenbaddeltab, this was at the end of the fsck:  /dev/hdd1: 4315/6144000 files (8.0% non-contiguous), 7880753/12264704 blocks02:59
qatsideltab: every time i reboot, i have to do sudo rmmod sundance.ko and then insmod ./sundance.ko to make my network cad work. I could simply do a script that executes everytime i boot, but...i think theres another way around, could you think of any ? thank you02:59
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SkramXwow.. 500mb of updates from hoary => dapper03:01
deltabTokenbad: any errors?03:01
harisundhas anybody used the ROPE programming language on Ubuntu?03:01
deltabqatsi: I think there's a config file that affects the order modules are loaded in03:02
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dementtHere we go again, Ubuntu install just burning ^^03:03
qatsideltab: you think the order is the one who is making me cry?...ok, ill check if I find anything, if i do, ill break a BIG hole in hardware with these encore cards...:) thank you03:03
godtvisk1nWhat is a good dvd ripping program?03:03
ArrenLexMPlayer! :D03:03
brueniggodtvisk1n, you assume there is one?03:03
dementtHey, how are the ATI-drivers doing nowadays?03:03
SkramXthis'll take a while.. 500mb updates for this ubuntu box to go from 5.1 to 6.0603:03
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dementtI heard that lot better03:03
godtvisk1nbruenig: at least one that is better than others03:04
deltabqatsi: I guess so, since removing and re-adding the driver makes it work, it may be being loaded too early03:04
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qatsideltab: so, you dont have any idea what file is that ?03:04
deltabor are you loading a different sundance.ko?03:04
ArrenLexdemnett: poorly. I can't use them.03:04
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jmerlinUncompressing Lexmark Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 03:05
jmerlinhow do i print with that now?03:05
dementtArrenLex what card do you have?03:05
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ArrenLexdemnett: 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] 03:05
Tokenbaddeltab, not that I saw....but gparted still shows only 55 gigs03:05
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jmerlinUncompressing Lexmark Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 03:05
jmerlinhow do i print with that now?03:05
dementtArrenLex aight, I am having X800 so lets hope there is some difference ^^03:06
qatsideltab: nope, its the same one, i just unload it, and re-load it...03:06
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qatsideltab: if i do lsmod ! grep sundance it displays the information and says: used by 0, but its being used by...at least 103:09
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deltabqatsi: if you can remove it, it's not being used03:10
imperfect-Anyone here familiar w/ using nvidia drivers with TV out?03:10
sethkqatsi, you can try moving the module up to an earlier position in /etc/modules03:10
imperfect-My color is fine until I load X then it has a nasty hue03:10
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sethkqatsi, you can rebuild the kernel with the driver compiled in, instead of using a module for the driver03:11
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qatsisethk: ok, i just added it to etc/modules at the bottom, ill try adding it to the top, and see if it works...03:11
sethkqatsi, ok, there's a chance it will help, but I'm not putting any money on it  :)03:11
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qatsisethk: ok, so if i rebuild the kernel witth the module in it, it wont be a module anymore ?03:11
sethkqatsi, right, it will be part of the kernel image03:11
sethkqatsi, which guarantees that it's available when needed.03:12
highnekoxgl uses 95% cpu. Is it fixable?!03:12
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qatsisethk: darn sethk, any help is welcome, with this crappy card, anything that works...03:12
ArrenLexhighneko: is the performance decent or is it slow?03:12
highnekoIt's ok until I open windows.03:12
highnekoI can use menus!03:12
ninja_monkeyHow can I delete all files of a package I installed, including it's configfiles?03:13
sethkhighneko, who needs windows, anyway?03:13
ArrenLexHighneko: run the command "glxinfo | grep renderer" and paste the result.03:13
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qatsisethk: ok, after reboot, now i have two modules, sundance and mii, sundance says its not being used by anyone, but mii is being used by...1, sundance :P pretty strange...03:13
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chrisghey all03:13
ArrenLexninjamonkey: apt-get remove --purge <package>03:13
chrisgthe only difference between ubuntu, and kbuntu is kbuntu uses kde right?03:13
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ArrenLexchrisg: yes.03:13
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ArrenLexAnd it's kubuntu.03:13
chrisgthat is literally the ONLY difference?03:13
highnekoArrenLex: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 2005022503:13
ArrenLexchrisg: yes.03:13
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ArrenLexhighneko: You have an integrated card?03:14
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chrisghmm, so ubuntu cant run KDE?03:14
ninja_monkey ArrenLex, does that include all packages that got installed with it?03:14
chrisglike if i wanted to try both?03:14
gnomefreakchrisg: different programs (kde versions)03:14
ArrenLexchrisg: of course it can.03:14
highnekoArrenLex: I do'nt know.03:14
ArrenLexninja: no. For that, you have to install packages with aptitude.03:14
gnomefreakchrisg: you can have both03:14
qatsiToday a guy asked if i could get an illegal copy of Ubuntu, because it was too expensive....:s !03:14
chrisgso then what exactly is the difference?03:14
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chrisgjust by default it uses kde?03:14
ninja_monkeyArrenLex: thanks.03:14
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Ranbeehi, does truecrypt have a gui?03:14
ArrenLexchrisg: yes.03:14
gnomefreakchrisg: the basic is gnome is gtk libs and kde is qt libs03:14
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sethkqatsi, tell him yes, but there is a small charge03:15
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qatsisethk: haha, i told him he was the owner, he could do whatever he wanted...i think i scared him :p03:15
sethkchrisg, I use the regular ubuntu cd, then install KDE afterwards03:15
ArrenLexThis is for everyone with Flash installed, who wants to be amused ->> http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54&swfSize=203:15
chrisgso for a 2.0ghz, 1gig ram, geforce fx 5900xt 128mb... which would you guys prefer?03:15
sethkchrisg, that's exactly the same as using the kubuntu install.03:15
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sethkchrisg, that hardware can easily handle either one03:16
gnomefreakArrenLex: please post that in #ubuntu-offtopic instead of here03:16
ArrenLexYessir. Sorry sir.03:16
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sethkchrisg, I prefer KDE, although that's a minority view here.  best thing to do is to try both yourself.03:16
dementtgnome ftw03:16
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chrisgyea... ok thanks a bunch guys03:16
dementtHad to blast, we all have our opinions03:16
brandon_is anybody running dapper right now?03:16
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Dr_willisI  perfer KDE. :P03:16
ArrenLexKDE is life.03:16
ArrenLexbrandon: almost everyone here is.03:16
Dr_willisbrandon_,  a lot of us i would guess.03:17
brandon_can you check your system/administration menu and see if there's a "disks" option?03:17
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highnekoYes, there is for me.03:17
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brandon_fire up the menu editor and check what command is being run there?03:17
foohm, my sound stopped working. Any ideas? I tried to restart alsa-utils but that didn't do anything. lsof|grep dsp returned nothing. hmm03:17
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highnekogksu disks-admin03:18
yipHi all, I do not know if this question should ask in here. I am sorry about this. I am looking for a help on starting emacs on remote machine through SSH03:18
rahmielTo enable 1280x1024 resolution, do I just need to add it to the modes in my xorg.conf or is there another way?03:18
qatsiis there a log of the order in which the modules where loaded ?03:19
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ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:19
jmerlinwhat version of CUPS is packaged with ubuntu 6.0603:20
shriphaniguys i cant partition my drive03:20
DarkMageZcan anyone recommend a directconnect (dc++) client for ubuntu?03:20
gnomefreakbruenig: the menu editor is alacarte that should also be the command03:20
jmerlinshriphani, you can, you're just not trying hard enough.03:20
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shriphanii think i am03:20
brueniggnomefreak, to what are you referring. I was throwing tha tout for rahmiel who wanted to change his resolution03:21
shriphanii ran the live cd03:21
shriphaniasked it partition03:21
rahmielThank you bruenig.03:21
yipMy question is. when I type >emacs filename on a remote machine. I am on a terminal emacs interface instead of the emacs21 GUI i install on my machine. Is there a way to set up emacs so that. It start the GUI emacs instead of the terminal base one03:21
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shriphaniafter a good 20 mins it says opeation failed03:21
Dr_willisyip how are you getting to the remote machine?03:21
yipssh Dr_willis03:21
Amaranthyip: Only if the remote system has X and Xemacs installed.03:21
Amaranthyip: Not likely for a server.03:22
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yipOh i see03:22
yipso that's not my setting03:22
yipthat's the server setting03:22
AmaranthI find it interesting you know how to use emacs but don't know how that works. ;)03:22
AmaranthNo offense, it's just that emacs is really....complicated.03:22
Dr_willisyip,   and you are on a Linux machine locally? if so use the X forwarding feature of  ssh03:22
yipoh but... when I connect to the same server at my school. my school Linux box will start the emacs GUI03:23
jmerlinhm.. adobe viewer wants to print to /bin/lp .. how do i change it to print to my installed printer?03:23
Dr_willisyip ssh -X whatever, then run the stuff03:23
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ArrenLexjmerlin: file - print.03:23
yipok let me see Dr_willis03:23
Ranbeeshriphani: maybe it's to do with RAID, dapper, gparted etc won't partition my drives either, or it needs something loaded with it to work03:23
shriphanii got no raids here03:23
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ArrenLexjmerlin: the box which sets the print command is right there.03:23
jmerlin/usr/bin/lp <-- it has this selected as printer..03:23
shriphanijust my hd03:23
SpudDoggHas anyone here ever gotten an Atheros chipset USB network device working in Ubuntu?03:24
jmerlinyes, but in things like open office word03:24
jmerlinit let sme choose the printer i installed03:24
yipoh sweet, Dr_willis. It works03:24
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jmerlindoesn't give me a command03:24
sethkyip, check whether the DISPLAY environment variable is set.  If it isn't, emacs will default to terminal mode03:24
jmerlinhell if i know the command my linux driver installed.03:24
Dr_willisyip,  edit your ssh configs to make the -X the default03:24
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sethkyip, if you are connecting with ssh, be sure to use    ssh -X  ..............03:24
yipso i need to invoke the X feature on my terminal in order to make it work03:24
yipthx for helping Dr_willis03:24
foohm, my sound stopped working. Any ideas? I tried to restart alsa-utils but that didn't do anything. lsof|grep dsp returned nothing. hmm03:24
ArrenLexjmerlin: they use different printing systems. I strongly suggest that you don't mess with it if you can avoid it. Make sure you have "cupsys-bsd" installed and then adobe will print fine to the default printer with that command.03:24
sethkyip, there are several ways to make it work, although they all do essentially the same thing.03:24
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yipi see03:25
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sethkyip, Dr_willis's idea about making -X the default is a good idea03:25
jmerlinjmerlin@FRIENDLYHACKER:~$ lp03:25
jmerlinlp: Error - no default destination available.03:25
ArrenLexfoo: it just randomly stopped working? Or did you something?03:25
jmerlinhard to print to a default when there isn't one03:25
ArrenLexjmerlin: what print subsystem are you using? cups?03:25
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dave___trying to install ubuntu on my sisters computer, and she has a linksys wirelessG USB , when i try to activate it , it freezes the whole computer up03:25
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dave___anyone know whats going on?03:26
ArrenLexjmerlin: then apt-get install cupsys-bsd03:26
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jmerlinit's installed.03:26
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rylasasinhow do I get easy ubuntu on my other build?03:26
fooArrenLex: Random. Kind of weird.03:26
ArrenLexjmerlin: and adobe doesn't work with the default settings?03:26
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ArrenLexfoo: pastebin the output of amixer.03:26
jmerlincupsys-bsd is already the newest version.03:27
fooArrenLex: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/amixer.txt03:27
jmerlinsays apt-get03:27
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ArrenLexjmerlin: how about setting a default printer for cupsys?03:27
jmerlindidn't think of that03:27
rylasasinhow do you get easyubuntu?03:27
jmerlinlol.. leave me alone03:27
ArrenLexWell fine. :(03:28
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jmerlinlol i meant don't make fun of me =>03:28
jmerlinim still getting used to linux03:28
jmerlini used it over SSH for a while for running servers on apache with php03:28
jmerlinbut i have never used it as a desktop03:28
ArrenLexfoo: uh, yeah. Your problem is very obscure and difficult to solve.03:28
jmerlinyeah that worked =>03:28
jmerlinlp recognizes it as the default03:28
ArrenLexfoo: it's really a brand new technology not yet fully understood or developed by man.03:28
fooArrenLex: haha. /me waits for the easy fix03:29
ArrenLexfoo: basically it's this weird thing called a "volume control" and if it's "off" sound doesn't play. I'm not sure why.03:29
imperfect-Is there anyone here that can help me wiuth an nvidia configuration problem?03:29
fooArrenLex: haha03:29
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fooArrenLex: rofl. you're genius. *hides*03:29
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ArrenLexYou're welcome. =P03:30
jmerlinnow that i've played around with linux enough, it's nearly time for me to re-install ubuntu and reconfigure it properly without fucking up over and over =)03:30
DBOjmerlin, less on the swearing please =)03:30
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ArrenLexjmerlin: I've found that Linux is remarkably tolerant to fixing things without reinstalling. Are you sure you have to?03:30
jmerlinlol ok03:30
qatsisethk: ok, i did a small shell script, lets hope it works...actually it was my firs shell script hehe03:30
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TheHighChildDoes anyone have a widescreen LCD?03:30
jmerlinArrenLex, when you install packages that aren't managed by synaptic03:30
jmerlinyou have rogue files and configuration modifications all over the place03:31
holycowjmerlin, lol03:31
qatsiTheHighChild: yes, i have two actually03:31
holycowyour doing really well03:31
holycowkeep it up03:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: no, you don't, if you purge them when you remove them.03:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: apt-get remove --purge <package> purges the conf.03:31
jmerlini installed KDE and didn't like it, so i removed it03:31
Flanneljmerlin: if they're packages, they're installed via dpkg, which is just as good as synaptic, just without the downloading.03:31
jmerlinand now i have quite a few KDE apps lying around that i can't find the packages for03:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: you want all vestiges of KDE off your system? That can be done.03:31
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TheHighChildqatsi: I just got a Samsung 20". I have everything working, just wondering if there's a way to optimize everything03:31
ArrenLexjmerlin: found this yesterday, hold on...03:31
jmerlini removed the packages i installed for KDE, it should've uninstalled the accompanying packages too =\03:31
holycowjmerlin, what prompted the idea to try ubuntu desktop?03:32
holycowjust curious03:32
jmerlinbecause i hate windows.03:32
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dave___anyoen have any luck with linksys USB wireless-G ?03:32
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ArrenLexjmerlin: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome03:32
qatsiTheHighChild: yes there is, there are special fonts for LCD Screens...google it :)...03:32
highnekoIs it possible to remove these thumbnails in the workspace/desktop thing?03:32
ArrenLexjmerlin: run the top command on that03:32
ArrenLexjmerlin: if you want, instead of apt-get remove, use apt-get remove --purge to get everything.03:32
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ArrenLexjmerlin: that'll remove all vestiges of KDE.03:32
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SpudDoggHas anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?03:33
holycowjmerlin, as good a reason as any :)03:33
jmerlinthere are others03:33
ArrenLexjmerlin: which?03:33
jmerlinbtw ArrenLex, that set my default printer, but it still doesn't print03:33
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jmerlinwhen i hit 'ok' on the print panel, it doesn't do anything through my printer03:33
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holycowone of the things that you will find is that once you 'learn' say kde or gnome and how the whole thing works  and gain some profficiency03:33
holycowyou won't be able to go back if you try03:33
holycowit will be impossible beyond a certain point03:33
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ArrenLexjmerlin: is there a particular reason you need adobe reader? It's total bloatware. How about evince?03:34
holycowevince works really well03:34
jmerlini know it is03:34
holycowacroread is also fugly03:34
suff0kateWhats The Best LInux Vulnerability Scanner For Webpages?03:34
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SpudDoggHas anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?03:34
jmerlinit's the one devved by adobe..03:34
holycowthey didn't take any real care to do de integration ... just pumped out some code in qt03:34
jmerlinand where i work, they want me to install that on the linux machine there03:34
jmerlinand have it printing through pharos03:34
holycowjmerlin, don't use that ... try evince first03:34
ArrenLexjmerlin: evince has yet to fail rendering a PDF for me.03:34
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jmerlinit's not for me03:35
holycowuse evince, then decide if its good enough03:35
MadpilotArrenLex, AcroRead, ugly as it is, is still the best PDF renderer out there03:35
jmerlinit's for idiots who are XP zombies03:35
jmerlinwho come into a computer lab03:35
jmerlinsit down03:35
ArrenLexOh. That's different.03:35
jmerlinwant to open the PDF03:35
jmerlinand see what they see on windows XP03:35
jmerlinwhich is what acroread is03:35
ArrenLexMadpilot: point me to a PDF that evince misrenders, please.03:35
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dzer0I installed vncserver and logged in, and it connects but there is just a gray background and an X cursotr03:35
holycowjmerlin, ah just change the icon for evince03:35
dzer0err, cursor03:35
holycowthey won't have a clue03:35
suff0kateWhats a good Vulnerability Scanner?03:35
ArrenLexjmerlin: so basically your workplace wants windows, minus the windows? Why?03:35
fgh_loi already own a domain and i have a dynamic ip. how can i point domain to my ip?03:35
jmerlinbecause the machines we're installing it on03:35
jmerlinare the very old machines in storage03:35
jmerlinwe have hundreds of them03:35
MadpilotArrenLex, off the top of my head, I can't, but I have run into several in last year or so03:35
jmerlinthey can't run win XP03:36
jmerlinnot enough ram, too slow03:36
TheHighChildfgh_lo: dyndns.com03:36
jmerlinand XP would cost a fortune to install on all them03:36
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.03:36
jmerlinlinux is free, it's very low bloat03:36
holycowjmerlin, sweet!03:36
jmerlinthey can run it very easily =>03:36
TheHighChildfgh_lo: and ddclient03:36
wickedpuppyfgh_lo, you need a static ip ...03:36
holycowi would be happy to try answer as many questions as you got (in the time that i have available) if you are making some cool use of old hardware03:36
ArrenLexjmerlin: it's not low bloat if you install KDE, acroread, openoffice, firefox...03:36
sethkjmerlin, there are alternatives to acroread that are better, IMO03:36
wickedpuppyoh okie ... but dyndns need to pay right ?03:36
holycow:) its just a shame we live in such a throw away society, kudos dude!03:36
sethkjmerlin, try kghostview, if you are in KDE03:36
holycowjust change the icon, no one will have a clue :)03:36
jmerlinwe're running GNOME on it03:36
sethkjmerlin, then ghostview should do it03:37
jmerlinand i've minimized it, to look like XP.. with just 1 bar etc03:37
dzer0anyone know why my VNC only shows a gray desktop with an X cursor?03:37
ArrenLexjmerlin: kghostview is not useable as a PDF renderer (it uses gs, which is just bad)03:37
fgh_loTheHighChild: can't i just install a dns serv on my linux box??03:37
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sethkjmerlin, there is also xpdf03:37
sethkjmerlin, try several, see which one runs best for you03:37
sethkjmerlin, yes, another pdf viewer program03:37
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jmerlinthe one packaged with ubuntu works fine03:37
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holycowxpdf works nice, but it doesn't integrate into the gnome desktop03:37
jmerlini'll just take off acroread03:37
lastnodeis there anyway to write/copy files to a ntfs partition?03:37
jmerlinif i can't even get it to print to a local printer03:37
lastnode!ntfs > lastnode03:37
TheHighChildfgh_lo: Dunno about that man. I use the dyndns service, OI figured I'd suggest it03:37
jmerlinprinting through pharos is going to be hell.03:37
dave___how can i download the files from synaptic without installing them?03:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:37
ArrenLex!tell lastnode about fuse03:38
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sethkjmerlin, once you configure printing, all the X apps will print03:38
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.03:38
lastnode!fuse > lastnode03:38
larrywfset msg %G[%n$0%B|%G$1%B<%n $3-03:38
sethkjmerlin, w.r.t. printing, it doesn't matter which pdf viewer app you use.03:38
fgh_loTheHighChild: what is ddclient?03:38
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rlandishow do I check how much disc space I have left to use03:38
ArrenLexrlandis: "df" command.03:38
qatsisethk: it works, the script works :)03:38
sethkjmerlin, the package for xpdf, if you want to check it out, is :   xpdf-reader03:38
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sethkqatsi, excellent.   :)03:38
ericmoritz\0is there a way to make gnome-vfs' ftp to use active mode?03:38
SpudDoggHas anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?03:38
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imperfect-help a dude get his color working! ;)03:39
TheHighChildfgh_lo: It's an application that will check your IP every few hundred seconds and report it to a service that will forward your domain to the ip03:39
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lastnodehas anybody here actually tried fuse?03:39
ericmoritz\0lastnode, I have03:39
qatsisethk: ok, so i just have to find out a way to do it without the script :p03:39
sethkimperfect-, you mean you have a03:39
lastnodeericmoritz\0, has data got corrupted etc?03:39
sethkqatsi, well, once you can do it with a script, you can eventually do it without the script03:39
JamesGoddardhey, quick question - i currently run ubuntu and windows on the same hard drive ... is it possible to kill my windows partition and resize the ubuntu partition so that the drive is completely ubuntu?03:39
sethkimperfect-, what do you mean?  you have a display that isn't showing any colors????03:40
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jmerlini can't get anything to print though so yeah..03:40
holycowjames absolutely03:40
jmerlinlexmark has a package for redhat03:40
ericmoritz\0lastnode, I haven't used to long enough to corrupt data. i.e., I mounted something, thought, hmm, that's nice, but too complicated and unmounted03:40
sethkJamesGoddard, you can, but it's less risky to just make another partition out of the windows space03:40
JamesGoddard(without losing my ubuntu data)03:40
holycowjames boot into the live cd, start up gparted, delete your xp partition03:40
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ArrenLexjmerlin: what printer?03:40
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holycowand resize ubuntu03:40
jmerlinlexmark z3503:40
lastnodeericmoritz\0, ok :-)03:40
sethkJamesGoddard, if you resize partitions, carefully back up everything03:40
holycowsimple and guiriffic03:40
JamesGoddardseth: hmm yeah, good idea03:40
jmerlinit extracts .rpm files03:40
david__can i set xwindows to log out after a certain amount of time?03:40
jmerlini alien'ed the main .rpm file03:40
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sethkJamesGoddard, creating a new partition in the windows spot and mounting it is just as good, really.03:40
jmerlinand installed the deb package03:40
holycowJamesGoddard, just make sure you backup /home, you NEVER know ... shit happens.  you don't want to have a power outage during a resize for example03:40
qatsisethk: yes, i think so :)...well, too muchfor today :) i really thank you for your help :), also you deltab :)...you saved at least 100 linux users :P ill post the code, and the research in the ubuntuforums :)03:41
jmerlinand it let me choose the driver in my printer configuration thingy when i added a new printer03:41
jmerlinbut it doesn't print anything when i go to print03:41
ericmoritz\0lastnode, I guess it corruption depends on the fuse module03:41
ArrenLexjmerlin: I tried alienning the redhat rpms for my colour laser Lexmark printer. It didn't work, to put it mildly. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8164503:41
ArrenLexHave you seen that?03:41
sethkalien is always an adventure; that's why you'll see so many precautions and disclaimers in the docs for it03:41
JamesGoddardsweet, thanks all03:41
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qatsiGood night everybody :)03:42
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jmerlindoes that work?03:42
fgh_loTheHighChild: what about no-ip.com? i already have an acct w/ them. can i point the domain i own to no-ip?03:42
ArrenLexjmerlin: hell if I know. It was just the first thing google found.03:42
jmerlinthat's basically what i did..03:42
jmerlini alien'ed the .rpm03:43
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jmerlinthen double-clicked on the .deb03:43
holycowjmerlin, what printer?03:43
ArrenLexholycow: z3503:43
holycowdid you check on linuxprinting.org for printer support?03:43
jmerlinlexmark z2503:43
ArrenLexSame thing.03:43
jmerlinyes i did03:43
jmerlinthey don't have lexmarks.03:43
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jmerlinlexmark's site has one for redhat03:43
jmerlini alien'ed the rpms03:43
holycowuh ... *hnmmm* actually lexmarks are known to work03:43
jmerlinand then installed the debs.. but even after configuring a new printer with the installed driver it doesn't print03:44
jmerlinso i dont know03:44
holycowforget it03:44
holycowyou need a new printer03:44
holycowbtw... yo umight be interested in brother printers and multifunction units03:44
holycownot only do they have linux drivers03:45
holycowthey have debian installers03:45
holycowtheir drivers are gpl03:45
ArrenLexholycow: he doesn't seem to need a new printer. He seems to need a binary driver.03:45
holycowwe are testing them here actually03:45
jsleeperdumb question - in command line how can i see if a certain package is installed?03:45
jmerlinif i call lexmark they may be able to get it running03:45
dave___how do I get apt-get to just download the file without installing ?03:45
jmerlinthey offer linux binaries on their site03:45
jsleeperi'm still learning apt - used to portage03:45
dave___i need the .deb files to bring over to another computer03:45
jmerlinso they should go through setting it up with me on a debian system03:45
holycowArrenLex, i'm aware of that ... i'm simply suggesting its cheaper to buy a new printer than it is to spend 4 days figuring out its a paperweight03:45
holycowwe are talking about $100 printers03:46
slopwhat does == mean in python?03:46
holycownot 5000$ printers03:46
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jmerlini don't have money for a new printer03:46
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madewokherdslop: equal value03:46
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jmerlini'm a student living in an apartment working part time03:46
slopmadewokherd, thanks03:46
jmerlinmoney is rare.03:46
ArrenLexjmerlin: have you seen this? http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:337:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=1242&searchLang=en&searchLang=en03:46
wickedpuppyslop, really ... this is #ubuntu ... and == is comparison see if the two vales are the same03:46
jstarcherhey guys03:46
Djuussthen its time to print at college (hope im not bumping in)03:47
holycowjmerlin, *nod* i understand completely.  i wish i could help i don't know how to help with printers known not to work :/03:47
ArrenLexjmerlin: what happened to that?03:47
jmerlindoesn't work03:47
holycowi think we had some z75's or something for a while but those all  basically died03:47
slopwickedpuppy, i know this is #ubuntu03:47
fgh_loi already own a domain and i have a dynamic ip. how can i point that domain to my ip? dns?03:47
holycowso we dropped the brand03:47
jmerlinthe listed OS's work fine, they've been tested on03:47
jmerlinbut on debian.. nope03:47
jmerlinno support =\03:47
wickedpuppyslop, then pls ask python questions in #python next time03:47
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ArrenLexjmerlin: not supported does not mean does not work.03:48
Madpilotfgh_lo, didn't you ask that question - and get an answer - about half an hour ago?03:48
slopwickedpuppy, i didn't know there was a #python.  thanks :)03:48
DjuussHey im running 5.04 right now, what did i have to type again to upgrade the distro?03:48
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jmerlinmeans it will take manual installation and manual conf editing to make it work03:48
Djuussapt-get distupgrade iirc?03:48
jmerlinif i can get it to work though, i can make a .deb file and put it up on the multiverse03:48
Madpilotubotu, tell Djuuss about upgrade03:48
jmerlinso people can just apt-get it and be happy03:48
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Djuussthx madpilot03:48
fgh_loMadpilot: i want to know if i can setup my own dns that will point my ip to my domain03:48
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jmerlinthis is weird03:49
CVirusAnybody managed to get the Wireless Broadcom 4311 chipset working with Linux ?03:49
jmerlinthe print jobs went through to the job queue03:49
jmerlini can see them03:49
jmerlinbut they say "stopped"03:49
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Madpilotjmerlin, please stop using your Enter key as punctuation...03:50
shriphaniMadpilot, my drivrefuses to be partitionede03:51
shriphaniso i need help with it03:51
highnekoHow can I remove all these little messages that popup when my mouse goes over things?03:51
dave___is there a website I can download the .deb files that are in the repository for use on another computer?03:51
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ArrenLexdave: packages.ubuntu.com03:52
Madpilotshriphani, I know very little about partitioning - all the partitioning I've done so far has 'just worked', so I haven't needed to learn... sorry03:52
dave___thank you03:52
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shriphanibut the installer cant partition03:53
ArrenLexDebian is life.03:53
bimberidave___: btw, if your "main" computer is being kept up to date, the .deb files will have been downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives03:53
wickedpuppyshriphani, ubuntu and debian ? why ? they are the same03:53
ArrenLexshripani: does it give some sort of error?03:53
shriphaniArrenLex, yes03:53
ArrenLexwickedpuppy: they are most certainly not the same.03:53
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shriphaniwickedpuppy, i want to try it03:53
holycowactually they are very very much the same03:54
ArrenLexshrip: what error, exactly? xD03:54
ArrenLexholycow: similar. But certainly not the same.03:54
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shriphaniFor some unknown reason this drive cccnot be partitioned03:54
holycowArrenLex, i cannot agree with that at all but on a technicality03:54
holycowthey 'are not' binary compatable but for some reasons not obvious to new users03:55
jmerlinhas anyone here ever had to make a ubuntu linux install authenticate through a windows AD?03:55
holycowthat is ubuntu 'freezes' off of debian unstable every 6 months03:55
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Djuusshaha this is gonna take ages, gotta upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, then from 5.10 to 6.0603:55
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CelesteI just installed "ubuntu-desktop"  on  "kubuntu"03:56
ubotuHi! Welcome to $chan!03:56
Celestewhen I press  ALT+F2  nothing happens03:56
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holycowthe freeze simply creates a situation where you will end up with base system config variability ... so yeah they are different, but not in the classic 'distro' sense imho03:56
shriphaniCeleste, you need to log out03:56
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Celesteshriphani, I logged out,  gdm started instead of kdm (as wished) and gnome is running03:56
Djuusswhy is it bad to just put the dapper repo's right away and upgrade 5.04 --> 6.06?03:56
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Celestethen I pressed ALT+F2  to get a command line like input window for starting programs03:56
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jmerlinwhatever, i'll figure it out later03:57
Celesteis it a misconfiguration or a package error?03:57
jmerlini'll figure it out on my boss's time when i'm getitng paid to do so :>03:57
shriphanignome-terminal is bad ?03:57
jmerlinoff to play ET03:57
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Celestethe terminal works03:58
Celesteshriphani, You do not know what I am talking about, right?03:58
wickedpuppyCeleste, you logged out .. then you log in ?03:58
shriphanitrue Celeste03:58
fgh_look. new question. how can i setup a dns on my box?03:58
Celesteyes wickedpuppy03:58
wickedpuppyCeleste, after changing from gnome to kde ?03:58
Celesteshriphani, what happens when you press ALT+F2 on your keyboard?03:58
shriphanii get a prompt03:58
Celestewickedpuppy, from kde to gnome03:58
shriphaniconsole to be precise03:58
Djuussceleste did you try xorgconfig?03:59
Celesteshriphani, ok, I want to get a prompt too03:59
wickedpuppykde to gnome ? then surely gnome will load ...03:59
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shriphaniwickedpuppy, gnome loaded03:59
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Celesteis my english really so bad?03:59
wickedpuppyyah .. and the problem is ?03:59
shriphanishe/he/it wants to work from console03:59
rylasasinuh hey how do you get easyubuntu?03:59
Celesteno I do not want!!!03:59
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Celesteonce more:03:59
wickedpuppyno .. you log out .. changed from kde to gnome ... and you log in and gnome loads03:59
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AWOSDevI want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear Waveform sounds but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?04:00
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JamesFosterDoes anyone know how many Ubuntu users there currently is, worldwide?04:00
wickedpuppyJamesFoster, ask mark shuttleworth04:00
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DjuussCeleste could you explain what the problem is? You installed ubuntu-desktop over kubuntu, and now gnome loads. What's wrong with that?04:01
AWOSDevJamesFoster, no but there are 855 in here :)04:01
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CelesteOS: "Kubuntu" ...  installed:  "gnome-desktop"  via aptitude.   CTRL+ALT+BACK ....  "gdm" started instead of "kdm"  because "gnome-desktop" has been installed.   I logged in with GNOME as my Desktop Environment04:01
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Celestenow I want to get a prompt when I press ALT+F204:01
Celestebut nothing happens04:01
Celesteyes, I *could* open a shell04:01
wickedpuppyCeleste, ctrl-alt-f2 ?04:01
Celestebut I want this  ALT+F2 prompt04:01
JamesFosterCanonical must know, right? They can look at how many times updates are downloaded/checked for.04:01
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Djuussahhhhhh i get it04:01
AWOSDevWickedPuppy, in KDE, when you press ALT+F2, the "Run Command" box comes up04:01
Celestewickedpuppy, CTRL+ALT+F2  brings me back to a text shell04:01
Celestewickedpuppy, a non X one04:02
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wickedpuppyAWOSDev, ah i see04:02
fluvvellcan anyone point me to the howto for adding dictionaries to openoffice?04:02
wickedpuppyi do not use kde .. pardon me04:02
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CelesteI USE GNOME04:02
fluvvellI've seen it before but google is being stubborn04:02
wickedpuppyso do i ...04:02
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AWOSDevwickedpuppy, I use KDE  ;)04:02
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wickedpuppyAWOSDev, well .. help him :P04:02
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Djuussboth KDE and GNOME give a X single line command window when pressing alt+F2, much like windows gives when pressing <windows>+r04:02
AWOSDevYeah but I hate GNOME so I have no clue.04:02
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wickedpuppyAWOSDev, i don't use kde so i got no clue04:03
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Djuussbut for celeste it doesnt show up now that she moved from kde to gnome04:03
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AWOSDevThere's a problem then :)04:03
wickedpuppybtw when i press alt-f2 i get run command ...04:03
razorbuzzIs anyone else having issues with Bon Echo in the Edgy beta?  The address bar doesn't work.. I have to type URL's into the google search box to go anywhere.  Typing them into the address bar does nothing when I hit enter or click the arrow04:03
tonyyarussorazorbuzz: Works fine here atm.04:04
wickedpuppyCeleste, go to System -> preference - >keyboard shortcuts ... and see if alt-f2 is linked to run command dialogue04:04
razorbuzztonyyarusso, Thanks for the reply.  Not the answer I wanted...'cause now it means it's something specific to my system LOL04:04
tonyyarussorazorbuzz: Perhaps anyway.04:05
wickedpuppyrazor1394, for edgy pls go to #ubuntu+104:05
wolfjbI'm getting an error with gsfonts-x11, 'unrecognized option' followed by update-fonts-dir DIRECTORY. apt-get won't continue until I get this resolved, but I can not hold/uninstall/purge this package, any hints on how to overcome this?04:05
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razorbuzzwickedpuppy, On my way.  Thanks04:05
ArrenLexfluvvell: for adding dictionaries to openoffice, if you still need it: File - Wizards - Install New Dictionaries04:05
hbcwhere would i find my kernel version listed please04:05
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Celestewickedpuppy: there is no "run command"04:05
wickedpuppyuname -a04:05
Celestewickedpuppy, so no entry for that04:05
aediniusorion2012: I'm stalking you, now.04:05
wickedpuppyCeleste, then pls kindly add it04:05
CelesteLinux box 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux04:05
wickedpuppyno no04:05
wickedpuppyCeleste, not you04:05
wickedpuppyits for hbc04:06
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wickedpuppyCeleste, go to System -> preference - >keyboard shortcuts ... and see if alt-f2 is linked to run command dialogue <-- for you Celeste04:06
wolfjbuname -r gets just the kernel version (2.6.15-26-386 in the above case)04:06
hbcI'll try that04:06
Celestewickedpuppy, I found it - yes it is lnked04:06
wickedpuppywell and it doesn't work ?04:06
DjuussHey does anyone know voice recognition software? I wanna be able to just yell 'play'  at my box instead of having to click rhythmbox manually04:06
hbccheers wickedpuppy04:06
Celesteyes wickedpuppy04:07
orion2012aedinius: OT chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic04:07
fluvvellArrenLex, thanks - that sounds a little different to last time - I'll go have a bash at it.04:07
Celestedoes not work04:07
rixthAre programs like users-admin written in python?04:07
pooliehas anyone else seen the postinst for xserver-xorg looping endlessly?04:07
wickedpuppyhbc, as wolfjb pointed out , uname -r does the job too .. man uname for more info :P04:07
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wickedpuppyCeleste, i suggest you restart the whole com ... if that doesn't work then remove the shortcut and add it again04:08
ArrenLexDjuss: I have not managed to find a decent Text-to-Speech for Linux, let alone a transcriber. Good luck. Tell me if you find something.04:08
wickedpuppyif that doesn't work then pls curse the gnome devs04:08
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Djuussnah i hate text to speech04:08
ArafangionArrenLex: Which one have you tried?04:08
Djuussarrenlex, i want voice operation, not text to speech04:08
ArafangionArrenLex: And what doesn't work?04:08
hbcah, I see04:09
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knixIs anyone here using ElectricSheep? It refuses to run with --root 1 for some reason therefore not displaying as a screensaver04:09
AWOSDevArrenLex, I find that ktts works well :)04:09
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amicrawlehello how do you download from irc?04:09
Djuussif all else fails, yell 'restart' , which is linked to shutdown -rf now04:09
Djuussthat kind of thing, anyone know a nice app?04:09
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knixDjuuss: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux%20voice%20recognition04:10
ArrenLexArafagnion: I have not found ANY speech-to-text or speech-command or voice recognition apps for Linux. At all.04:10
gpledis their a synaptic package to install java for firefox?04:10
Madpilotgpled, yes04:10
Madpilotubotu, tell gpled about java04:10
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hbcand what is the man pages command for compiling kernel? is there one?04:11
mister_robotoArrenLex: haven't found ANY or any you like. kttsd and ksayit are there04:11
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halex-abhbc: don't believe there is one, no..04:11
w30Djuuss, maybe you can find a usb clap on light and adapt it.04:12
ArafangionArrenLex: That's completely different.04:12
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lufisWhat Bash command will take a bunch of files and divide them up into different folders?04:12
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ArafangionArrenLex: Are you talking about text-to-speech, or speech-to-text?04:12
x_Oanyone in here using Edgy??04:13
wickedpuppylufis, thats a very .. general question04:13
mister_robotox_O: yes04:13
DjuussOk if anyone else was looking for voice recognition (be it commands or text to speech), this article helps: http://applications.linux.com/applications/05/01/18/2148234.shtml04:13
|thunderx_O; try #ubuntu+104:13
lufiswickedpuppy: Well :P Did i phrase it badly?04:13
tonyyarussox_O: Yeah.  And more in ^^ that channel04:13
wickedpuppyits like how to divide people and put them in different room ? can you answer that ?04:13
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sproingiedivide by what criteria, i think he's asking04:13
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sproingieand there's no one command that'll do that, though it'd be an easy loop04:14
Djuusslufis, are you by any chance referring to your mp3 collection?04:14
lufiswickedpuppy: I have a bunch of images in a directory, but Eye of Gnome crashes every time it tries to load them all (meh). It doesn't load them recursively though, so if I could just divide them all up into like 200 per folder, it wouldn't crash04:14
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gravesonanyone know,where i can find a guide to access my pc remotely from the internet(Securely) using FTP or SSH ?04:14
x_ONo one is alive in there though. Sigh.04:14
wickedpuppyi suppose you can find with exec ... like find . -name *.txt -exec rm -rf {};04:15
mister_robotolufis: ahhh.. the old problematic pr0n folder04:15
sethkgraveson, accessing via ssh is so easy, I doubt you'll find a guide for it04:15
lufismister_roboto: Yes. :P04:15
sethkgraveson, it's two minutes04:15
x_ODo you guys use XGL, or Beryl ... or ... emeral theme .... manager ... dealios ... anything like that?04:15
sethkgraveson, on the server, install the package  openssh-server04:15
wickedpuppy200 per folder ... hmms ... that will require a shell script ..04:15
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ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.04:15
sethkgraveson, then, that's it.  you're done.  use ssh on the client.  (If it's windows use ssh from cygwin, although many people use putty which is just as good but not my personal preference)04:15
DjuussWickedpuppy, what would you recommend, beryl or xgl04:15
bdragonmslWhich kernel is best for an amd64 x2 4800 in 6.10?04:16
TeriI have a question about OpenSSL.  I'm somewhat new to linux. when I set up my win2k server, I remember paying a company (i think it was verisign) for a certificate.  I've read a few tutorials on creating a certificate on ubuntu and it appears that they are instructions on how to create a certificate without a 3rd party company...I like the sound of that.  I'm reading it correctly or do I indeed need to use a 3rd party company?  I'm only04:16
Teri running a web server for my family to use wordpress, etc. so I've always hated paying for a cert...04:16
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wickedpuppyDjuuss, i used xgl before .. on sled .. so can't tell ya what to use on ubuntu ... xgl is good though but you need nvidia whatever you use04:16
wickedpuppyati sux04:16
gravesonsethk: is that it, do  i need to know my NAT address04:16
ArafangionTeri: The reason why you need to pay for a cert is because of the "Chain of trust".04:16
sethkgraveson, you also get sftp and scp as a no cost bonus.04:17
ArrenLexTeri: you pay for certificates when you want other people to trust you.04:17
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bdragonmslyeah, I have nvidia, but it tells me I need a different kernel04:17
sethkgraveson, you need to know your public address, yes, to log in from the 'net04:17
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AWOSDevTeri, you can create your own certificate in Windows 2000 by promoting your server to "Enterprise Certificate Authority"04:17
Djuussya no worries, as long as its *really* 3d-accelerated, my cpu isnt exactly top of the line04:17
sethkgraveson, there are a bunch of web sites that will tell you your public IP if you don't know it.04:17
gpledMadpilot: thanks, will try it out04:17
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wickedpuppyDjuuss, then why not try both ?04:17
sethkgraveson, and, if you order right now, at absolutely no cost ...  :)04:17
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gravesonsethk: is sftp as simple04:17
nex_does anyone know if there is an AMD X2 driver for i386 dapper?04:17
gravesonsethk: :)04:17
Arafangiongraveson: Most people use scp04:17
sethkgraveson, yes, because it uses the same binaries as ssh.04:17
TeriI don't care about other people" trusting" my server.... I wish I knew this a year ago...would have saved me some cash04:18
nex_Teri what's up?04:18
gravesonthanks guys04:18
hbcI know my kernel version, where would it be located please?04:18
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sethkArafangion, not in my experience, but it doesn't matter which you use.  they are both thin wrappers around ssh04:18
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sethkhbc, uname -r04:18
Arafangionsethk: Fair enough. :)04:18
Terinex_, nuttin04:18
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Arafangionsethk: I find most ftp clients confusing, anyway ;)04:18
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VoukshWhat could be the reason behind my install stopping at 22gnome_panel_data?04:18
lastnodewhat is a .pb file and how can i open it in ubuntu>04:18
katecan anyone here help me with americas army?04:18
wickedpuppykate, osama can04:19
qatsiif i do a ifconfig and my card is listed there, does it mean that its correctly installed ?04:19
Arafangionlastnode: It could be anything.04:19
sethkArafangion, they can be.  depends.  a person used to using ftp, who hasn't used rcp, takes easily to sftp.  depends on what you are used to, I guess.04:19
hbcno, what directory would it be in?04:19
geekchic9-1wickedpuppy: lol04:19
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nex_anyone know where i can get desktop widgets?04:19
Arafangionlastnode: Traditionally, the "extension" is meaningless by itself on Linux and Unix systems.04:19
sethkgraveson, sftp is just:   sftp username@ip04:19
fuocohi, question: if i install a deb file manually, outside of a repo, does it break in some way the consistency of the package management ? would it make a difference when trying to uninstall stuff later etc... ?04:19
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TeriAWDSDev, so.... just to clarify, is this promoting my server just simply settings, or does this require a cost?04:19
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qatsisethk: back again, with more network issues....04:19
Arafangionlastnode: It does have semantic meaning to humans, though.04:19
sethkgraveson, very easy.  and cygwin is nice because the windows side and the unix side use exactly the same syntax, in either direction.04:19
jordan_nex_ try gdesklets for gnome04:19
nex_i'm looking for the one that has processes, cpu, ram, etc...04:19
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sethkqatsi, what type of issues?04:19
nex_anyone know what i'm talking about?04:19
lastnodeArafangion, of course. what i mean is, it generally denotes the file type04:20
sethknex_, top04:20
lastnode!batcave-bink Hemingway, Ernest - The Old Man And The Sea & Notes(txt).rar04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about batcave-bink Hemingway, Ernest - The Old Man And The Sea & Notes(txt).rar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
nex_sethk, top?04:20
Arafangionlastnode: Only by convention.04:20
AWOSDevTeri, free.04:20
bimberifuoco: no, if it installed without any force- options it should be fine04:20
lastnodeArafangion, yeah i know. is it a publisher file?04:20
Arafangionlastnode: Unix uses "Magic numbers" to denote file types, instead.04:20
qatsisethk: after all the yada yada of the modules, if i do a ifconfig, i get some information about the network card, but i dont get an ip...04:20
jordan_nex_ that is the terminal application for seeing CPU usage ( top ).04:20
sethknex_, not a widget, but does all that stuff.  I know the KDE desktop widgets, because I'm a kde user.   They exist for gnome also.04:20
NimweiHow do I configure a Samba user to have access to delete, rename, and modify files on a share? Currently the user is only able to read the files.04:20
rylasasinok dude how do I get easy ubuntu04:21
fuocobimberi: ok thanks. i assume the only down side then is that i won't get updates for that package ?04:21
TeriAWDSDev.  wow am I dumb04:21
lastnodeArafangion, im aware of all this. i just asked what a .pb file usually is.04:21
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jordan_nex_ do you want it in the title bar?04:21
Arafangionlastnode: So, one uses "file", which looks at the first two bytes, which is hte magic number. (Shell scripts start with #!, which corresponds to the two-byte magic number)04:21
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sethkqatsi, what happens if you bring up the network-admin dialog, select the interface, click disable, and then click enable?  do you get an IP?04:21
mister_robotolastnode: did you google for it?04:21
sethkqatsi, that makes sense only if you are using DHCP.04:21
bimberifuoco: no, unless it appears in your repositories later :)04:21
nex_well there is one i already tried for the title bar04:21
qatsirylasasin: google is your friend...easyubuntu.freecontrib.org04:21
nex_but it only displays one of my cpus04:21
lastnodeArafangion, mate, you're preaching to the choir ;-)04:21
VoukshI'm having some trouble with installing Xubuntu on my laptop. During install, it stops at 79% trying to run "22gnome_panel_data"04:21
qatsisethk: yes i am using, let me check04:21
nex_that's why i was asking if there is a driver for amd x204:21
Madpilotw30, they ban people for friendly fire in AA?04:22
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nex_xause it only shows one cpu04:22
fuocobimberi: that was my next question, what happens if it appears in the repo later ?04:22
Arafangionlastnode: I'd suggest either google, or file, or just doubleclicking on it as a guest user, to see what the mime type is.04:22
jordan_nex_ are you sure both your CPUs are being used?04:22
sethknex_, there are definitely widgets around that work with multiple CPUs.04:22
TeriAWDSDev, do you know where can I read about the "concepts" of SSL certificates so I don't make the same mistakes?04:22
wickedpuppylastnode, i was in choir .. pls don't insult us :P04:22
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sethknex_, jordan_ has a good question04:22
AWOSDevTeri, not dumb, just a littler, uneducated.  :)04:22
lastnodewickedpuppy, it's called a figure of speech04:22
sethknex_, do   cat /proc/cpuinfo04:22
nex_good question indeed04:22
w30Madpilot, you get thrown in the stockade and that's it.04:22
nex_ok let me see04:22
TeriAWDSDev :-)04:22
wickedpuppylastnode, :) would show i also understand that ...04:22
bimberifuoco: if it's a later version in the repo it will offer to upgrade04:22
qatsisethk: my network card is listed there and it says that eth0 is active...04:22
lastnodeArafangion, i havent downloaded it yet, else id do 'file' on it. :-) im wondering if ill need any proprietary reader to read it, in which case i wont download it. ill google, thanks.04:23
AWOSDev I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear the Waveform sounds but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?04:23
nex_apparently only 104:23
nex_cpuid level : 104:23
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nex_processor: 004:23
nex_no more04:23
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sethkqatsi, ok, but deactivate, then click activate.04:23
NimweiSAMBA: How do I give a user FULL RIGHTS to a share?04:23
AWOSDevnex_, CPUID level 1?  processor 0?  that's like a 486...04:23
jordan_nex_ Are you using an SMP kernel?04:23
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mister_robotolastnode: try filext.com for tracking down file extensions04:23
sethkqatsi, that will force it to request an IP from dhcp again04:23
vulcaniumhey guys04:23
w30Madpilot, I did it on the rifle range so they didn't like it.04:23
nex_SMP kernel?04:23
lastnodemister_roboto, just found it :-)04:23
Madpilotw30, heh04:23
sethkqatsi, if it gets one, then we have one type of problem.  if it doesn't, then we have a different type of problem04:23
Djuussofftopic: in xchat, what do i type to start a private conversation with someone? like, <private conversation command> ubotu 'Hi bot!'04:23
qatsisethk: i cant deactivate or activate :S04:24
NimweiDjuuss: type /msg <nick> <msg>04:24
AWOSDevDjuuss, /query04:24
VoukshWhat could be the reason behind my install stopping at 22gnome_panel_data?04:24
nex_i'm using i386 version of dapper, cause 64 bit would lock up during install04:24
sethknex_, the default kernel is SMP.  symmetric multi-processing, aka more than one cpu04:24
Djuussok thx04:24
jordan_nex_ You need a specific kernel to use multi core CPUs.04:24
vulcaniumI installed ubuntu for the first time today04:24
Arafangionlastnode: Remember, if it's publisher, realise that even the specific _version_ matters. :(04:24
wickedpuppyDjuuss, are you using xchat ?04:24
sethkqatsi, can't?  why not?  you did start it as root, I assume?04:24
nex_how would i get that specific kernel?04:24
w30Madpilot, I just wonder how real the game was so I found out. :=)04:24
qatsisethk: wait, its activating...hehe :p04:24
Arafangionlastnode: MS isn't even compatible with _themselves_. :(04:24
sethkqatsi, that's better.  :)04:24
vulcaniumone minor issue seems to be that there isn't a propper graphics driver isntalled04:24
vulcaniumIE, I can't go above 1024x76804:24
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qatsisethk: ok, now i have an ip...:p hehe04:25
jordan_sethk, Although people told me the default kernel is smp, I wasn't getting support for both cores until I installed the SMP kernel package.04:25
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sethkvulcanium, that may be the graphics driver, but it also may be misidentification of the monitor.04:25
lastnodeArafangion, it's wordperfect, and im skipping the download. :-) thanks04:25
Djuusswickedpuppy ye04:25
nex_jordan_ how do i get the SMP kernel package?04:25
sethkjordan_, interesting.  I build my own kernel, so I wouldn't have seen the problem.04:25
vulcaniumsethk, any way to force a resolution?04:25
Madpilotw30, good thing I play Enemy Territory instead - when I started playing that, about a year ago, I spent the first two games or so shooting everyone, until I got auto-kicked for friendly fire and started to figure stuff out :D04:25
vulcaniumI have a 7800gt btw04:25
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Arafangionlastnode: It's _possible_ that OOo can open such files.04:25
nex_sethk, how would i go by solving my problem?04:25
sethkjordan_, first thing I do, with all the distros, is replace the kernel with one downloaded from kernel.org.  Which just about everyone here objects to, but it works.04:26
VoukshGrrr. Can ANYONE help me with my install problem?04:26
jordan_nex_ You can do it using synaptic, hold on and I'll find the package name.04:26
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wickedpuppyDjuuss, pls right click on my nick and choose the dialogue option ... there is no need to type :P04:26
vulcaniumI was looking into how to install the latest driver but I got totaly lose04:26
sethknex_, when you do   uname -a      do you see SMP anywhere in the output?04:26
nex_jordan_, thanks04:26
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sethkvulcanium, can you paste your X log to the paste web site?04:26
AWOSDevDjuuss, if you switch to Konversation you can just click a nick to begin a query :)04:26
w30Madpilot, ha! I can't get through basic qualification on America's Army.04:26
lastnodeArafangion, id rather not use proprietary file extensions04:26
jordan_sethk_ I don't see why anyone would object.04:26
nex_sethk, no i don't04:26
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sethkvulcanium, it's named Xorg.0.log04:26
sethkvulcanium, in /var/log04:26
Arafangionlastnode: Oooh! A fundamentalist! Cool :)04:26
vulcaniumsethk, I would, but I'm in windows right now04:26
VoukshHello, am I being ignored?04:27
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sethknex_, I'd start by going into synaptic and looking at the kernel packages, and picking one with smp in the name (for your architecture, of course)04:27
sethkVouksh, not sure, did you ask a question?04:27
DjuussWickedpuppy, i'm not into cyber. AWOSDev, i know, xchat has that too, but i did /stats p to get freenode staffers, but it turned up non-clickable nicks.04:27
sethkVouksh, lot of traffic tonight, please ask it again.04:27
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mister_robotonex_: wtf?04:27
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vulcaniumis pretty damn quick in here tonight04:28
sethkvulcanium, best thing to do is look at the log.  otherwise, we are just guessing.04:28
Madpilotnex_, I'll un-mute you in a minute or two04:28
jordan_nex_ linux-686-smp04:28
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sethkvulcanium, with the log we can tell you immediately what's going on, and hopefully how to fix it.04:28
Voukshsethk, I'm having trouble with the installer. it keeps stopping at 79% saying it's running "22gnome_panel_data"04:28
vulcaniumsethk, understood.04:28
vulcaniumI'm so used to windows.... and log files are pretty foreign to me heh04:28
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sethkVouksh, did you do the media validation?04:28
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NimweiSAMBA: How do I give a user FULL RIGHTS to a share?04:28
Arafangionvulcanium: I don't even know _how_ to get the logs on windows.04:29
Voukshhmm, nope. i'll try that first04:29
sethkVouksh, sounds like a bad cd, either a bad burn, or possibly a bad download.  check the MD5SUM of the download, if you haven't already, and then try to validate the cd.04:29
Djuusslol somehow i started this IRC in root..04:29
SilentDissonancehello, i just installed a new vid card, and am having problems getting x to start.04:29
vulcaniumArafangion, exactly. haha04:29
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Djuussbut this beeing ubuntu, there is not even a root account04:29
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vulcaniumoh really?04:29
vulcaniumhows that work?04:29
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sethkDjuuss, that is not true04:29
jordan_SilentDissonance, what type of card?04:29
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SilentDissonanceGeForce 7600GS04:30
suff0katehow do u run a .rb i do it but it doesn't recognize it04:30
sethkDjuuss, two things.  first, it will not even begin to run without a root account.  second, nothing in ubuntu is different about root compared with all other linux distros.04:30
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sethkDjuuss, that's a myth, as you have obviously discovered.04:30
suff0kateand i installed the ruby package04:30
SilentDissonancereports "No screens found" in the error logs04:30
qatsisethk: ok, ill try to log in with the other computer :P lets hope it works04:30
wickedpuppysuff0kate, ruby file.rb04:30
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sethkDjuuss, with the default installation options (and _only_ with the default installation options), the root password is not set.04:30
Madpilotnex_, you should be back now04:30
suff0katei know04:30
rixthAre programs like users-admin written in python?04:30
sethkDjuuss, which is _not_ the same as not having a root account04:30
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suff0katehow do you run those in terminal04:30
sethkrixth, some are.04:30
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wickedpuppysuff0kate, i told ya .. ruby file.rb04:30
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sethkDjuuss, if you do    ps aux      you'll see bunches of programs running in the root account04:30
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jordan_SilentDissonance, Have you tried anything to get it working yet?04:31
rixthsethk, stylin' I'll take a look04:31
mister_robotogrep root /etc/passwd04:31
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AWOSDevDjuuss, actually do ps aux | grep root, else you'll see hundreds and hundreds of lines :)04:31
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vulcaniumI need some advice on how to organize my hard drive as far as making my data accessable in both linux and windows04:31
AWOSDev I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear the KDE sounds (Waveform) but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?04:31
Djuusswell ok i prefer sudo su over constantly typing sudo before apt-get install, i'm just puzzled how i managed to start xchat in root by clicking it in the gnome menu04:31
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wickedpuppyvulcanium, put a new partition between the two OS ... thats my fav plan ..04:32
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bdragonmslcan anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers in 6.1004:32
AWOSDevDjuuss, well did you start GNOME as root?  LOL04:32
SilentDissonancejordan_:  i attempted a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... but it appears it's not detecting the monitor.  sees the nvidia card fine, and 'chooses' that for me04:32
wickedpuppyDjuuss, xchat in root is waiting to be rooted04:32
jordan_Djuss, check that the menu item doesn't use gksudo.04:32
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vulcaniumwhat file system wickedpuppy ?04:32
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Djuusswell this is my first startup, it went a bit bumpy04:32
AWOSDevwickedpuppy, well yeah but I used to run xchat as root on my SuSE system.  no firewall too :P04:32
wickedpuppyvulcanium, fat32 .. then i dump my mp3s in side there04:32
Djuussi remember typing sudo startx at some point04:33
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wickedpuppyAWOSDev, hmms .... i remember you .. you were the one with all the pr0ns!!!! :P04:33
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vulcaniumdoesn't fat32 have some really anyoing partition size limits or something?04:33
sethkDjuuss, that's not necessarily wrong, although it's not the most common way to start X.04:33
VoukshIs there any kind of CLI installer for ubuntu?04:33
AWOSDevDjuuss yeah sudo startx would make GNOME run as root04:33
sethkVouksh, yes04:33
sethkVouksh, on the alternate cd, use the text mode install04:33
cynikalVouksh: the alternate cd04:33
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AWOSDevwickedpuppy, you must have confused me with another AWOSDev as I only went into #OSDev.  :)04:33
Terijoin #apache04:33
wickedpuppyvulcanium, yah .. but i use it to transfer files ... just a temp place for files that needed in both OS .. but a storage partition04:33
Voukshsethk & cynikal, thanks. i'll look into that if i can't get this working04:34
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AWOSDevTeri huh?  why?04:34
TeriAWDSDev, oops04:34
vulcaniumwell this wouldhave to be permanent storage for all my docs, pictures, and CDs04:34
vulcaniumall ripped in lossless04:34
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CaptainMorgansorry for the ot, but anyone know off hand fast firewire is? google's being complicated.. or it's just me04:34
jordan_SilentDissonance, If you have installed the proprietary nvidea drivers then I have no idea, you can try using vesa for basic functionality.04:34
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VoukshI'm too used to Gentoo, and Ubuntu seems really... different for some reason04:34
TeriAWDSDev...I have questions on Apache204:34
Madpilotnex_, you should be OK to talk now04:34
wickedpuppyvulcanium, then ah ... ntfs .. but surely you should know why i don't use ntfs04:34
AWOSDevTeri, just FYI... I'm AW O SDev with an O as in Octopus...not04:34
TeriAWDSDev...are you educated on apaech?04:35
vulcaniumyeah... you can't wrtie from within linux then04:35
jordan_nex_ linux-686-smp04:35
vulcaniumwhat if I used ext304:35
sethkVouksh, not really significantly different.  just details.  gentoo makes many gratuitous changes to what is normally done, just to be different.04:35
AWOSDevTeri, yeah04:35
SilentDissonancejordan_: i haven't installed any drivers as of yet... other than chosen "nv" from the list available when reconfiguring x.04:35
AWOSDevTeri, PM me04:35
vulcaniumand then used a viertual driver in windows?04:35
sethkvulcanium, there are ext2/3 drivers available for windows04:35
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Djuussvulcanium either ntfs, or get windows drivers for ext3. you can write ntfs, but its rumored not to be stable04:35
sethkvulcanium, no virtual driver, there is a real driver04:35
Teriawosdev... now I see the  O04:35
mister_robotoCaptainMorgan: i googled "firewire transfer speed" and it was the top hit04:35
nex_it's telling me in synaptic that it's for Intel cpus04:35
AWOSDevTeri :)04:35
vulcaniumwell, whatever you want to call04:35
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wickedpuppyvulcanium, same .. you got to fix windows to recognise ext304:35
w30vulcanium, it's got a file size limit but I don't remember what. Databases get in trouble with it.04:35
SilentDissonancethe problem, it appears, is the monitor is for some reason, isn't detected and won't register on the xclient :P04:35
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vulcaniumwhat are the limitations with fat32 exactly?  from what I'm reading it is just the 2 gig file size limit04:36
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sethkSilentDissonance, reconfigure, and override the monitor selection with "generic monitor capable of"...04:36
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vulcaniumor 4 gig rather04:36
sethkSilentDissonance, you'll find that in the _middle_ difficulty level of the monitor configuration in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:36
Voukshvulcanium, it only allows up to 32GB partitions04:36
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AWOSDevvulcanium, well yeah 4GB file limit.  The only other limit would be 2TB partitions.04:36
nex_jordan_ does it work with AMD x2? cause it says in synaptic that it's intel04:37
Djuusspersonally i write NTFS from linux all the time, works fine04:37
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VoukshAWOSDev, I thought it was 32GB?04:37
TeriAwosdev....pm'ed you... you still here?04:37
jordan_nex_ I honestly don't know :)04:37
Madpilotright, enough spam from me for now :)04:37
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nex_are you running it?04:37
vulcaniumwell thats not too bad04:37
AWOSDevTeri yes but I didn't get it04:37
vulcaniumI can deal with that04:37
AWOSDevhold on04:37
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sethkDjuuss, there are known cases where there are major problems, so it's best to warn people about that.04:37
vulcaniumI don't have anything larger than 2 gig typically04:37
jordan_nex_ with a core duo.04:37
sethkDjuuss, it's quite possible to not see something for days, months, even years, yet it is still there and still a serious problem.04:38
THX-1138Hi Madpilot04:38
AWOSDevVouksh, 2TiB per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT3204:38
Djuussyeh i was gonna say ' dont quote me on it' but synaptic needed my attention04:38
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Madpilothi THX-113804:38
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AWOSDevoh and vulcanium, you should read that too -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT3204:38
Teriawosdev...i'm replying in the pm window.... are you not seeing my typing/msgs?04:38
nex_jordan_ that wouldn't work for me04:38
Djuussif you want *stable* cross-OS storage, get some windows drivers for ext204:38
AWOSDevTeri: no...did you get my "Can you see me?" message?04:38
SilentDissonanceok, tried that... I still get 'no devices detected'.... it's like it can't 'see' my monitor for some reason04:38
Teriawosdev.. yep04:38
w30Djuuss, I read that writing to ntfs with Linux over networking is flaky. I don't know the particulars though.04:38
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MadpilotTeri, are you registed & identified w/ Freenode's nickserv?04:39
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Teriawosdev...i answered back04:39
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sethkSilentDissonance, makes no difference if you do what I suggested04:39
vulcaniumI need another hard drive04:39
vulcanium all this lossless music eats up my space04:39
wickedpuppyTeri, pls type awos and press tab ...04:39
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SilentDissonancesethk:  let me rescroll back up....04:39
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Terimadpilot, I doubt it,  I don't know what that means04:39
AWOSDevTeri yes are you registered?04:39
docmurokay how do you make iptables stay after restart04:39
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SilentDissonancesethk:  think i missed yours lol04:39
Madpilotubotu, tell Teri about register04:39
AWOSDevwickedpuppy she got my name right--04:39
AngryParsleylossless isn't really worth the hard drive space04:39
sethkSilentDissonance, (sudo) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:39
MadpilotTeri, you need to be reg'd/id'd to send PMs04:39
THX-1138Madpilot - How do you use the mount command with the live cd, it appears disabled in a blurb on boot scrren  and i get permission errors trying to use it.04:39
Djuussw30 that doesnt make sense, you dont write over network directly onto the harddisk, you present the data to the receiving machine, that writes it to HD all by itself. So i dont see how linux ntfs compatibility has anything to do with that04:39
wickedpuppyAWOSDev, ah but she got to type ... its hard04:39
AngryParsleyyou can get the same perceived quality by using VBR mp3s04:39
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AWOSDevwickedpuppy I type all the nicks04:40
sethkSilentDissonance, choose the middle difficulty level for monitor configuration.  then choose generic monitor, or generic lcd screen, capable of    (1280x1024, for example, whatever fits the monitor)04:40
AWOSDevwickedpuppy even the hard ones :)04:40
MadpilotTHX-1138, it should just work, at least with ext3 partitions - that's all I've ever used it on04:40
SilentDissonancesethk: ahh yes, that I just tried04:40
JoelSHey guys, trying to go from gentoo->ubuntu, can anyone help with partitions?04:40
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THX-1138Madpilot - Okay. - Thanks04:40
wickedpuppyAWOSDev, lol ... my full name is mayng myat thu @ billy aung myint ... imagine typing this all the time04:40
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Teriwickedpuppy, cool trick with the tab thing04:40
sethkSilentDissonance, in that program, it tells you that it can't see a monitor at all?04:40
vulcaniumare there any known issues in writing ext3 from widnows using one of those drivers?04:40
SilentDissonancethe stupid card has 2 vid ports... let me try dropping my monitor on the 2nd one, just out of curiosity.  might init that one first :P04:40
wickedpuppyTeri, same as bash :P auto complete04:40
jordan_nex_ I can't think of any reason why it *wouldn't* work.04:40
MadpilotTHX-1138, you trying to view ext3 or something else?04:40
Teriwickedpuppy, kewl04:41
AWOSDevwickedpuppy mayng myat thu @ billy aung myint...I could :)04:41
SilentDissonancebrb, semi afk as I mess with the damn thing lol04:41
tonyyarussoJoelS: You might be more specific.04:41
vulcaniumI would think not seeing as ext3 is an open standard whilst ntfs had to be reverse engineered04:41
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w30Djuuss, I don't know other than to parrot what some else wrote so take it with a grain of salt and research it more :=)04:41
THX-1138Ext3 to edit xorg.conf.04:41
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sethkvulcanium, I pay attention, and I've not heard of problems there.  But investigate for yourself; problems can be rare but still exist and may be serious.04:41
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TeriMadpilot, is there a cost for registering?04:41
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AWOSDevTeri, free04:41
wickedpuppyTeri, free04:41
MadpilotTeri, no, it's free04:41
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sethkvulcanium, my judgement is that it is the best alternative if FAT32 is not an option for some reason.04:41
rpc-it's free :)04:41
nex_jordan, so you're saying that it isn't specific to intel based?04:41
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nex_jordan_, how would i check to see if it worked?04:42
jordan_nex_ That is what I think, I am not sure though.04:42
MadpilotTeri, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration04:42
nex_ok let's ask...04:42
TeriMadpilot, reading...04:42
JoelStonyyarusso, I have a drive partitioned like so: ntfs 22gig for windows, 21 gig for OSX (hfs+), and 30 gig for gentoo... i wanted to remove gentoo and put on ubuntu, and if convenient, maybe repartition it to include the hfs+ parition.04:42
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Djuussoeh, i think im in love.. gksudo update-manager04:42
sethknex_, smp support is specific to a processor, but intel is not the only processor for which smp is supported04:42
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JoelStonyyarusso, but if thats not possible, just to take the 30 gig ext3 partition and use that for ubuntu04:42
vulcaniumI need to ditch my x-fi card04:42
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nex_sethk, so the package works with non-intel cpus?04:43
vulcaniumanyone want it? :P04:43
shriphaniguys how do i resize an ext3 partition ?04:43
harrismHello room, I just finished building my new computer and I need some help getting the correct drivers for my VGA card (I believe) My VGA card is made by MSI, it's a NX6200 series NVIDIA/GeForce. Can someone tell me where to go to get direct rendering? If I type glxinfo in terminal I get name of display: :0.004:43
nex_sethk, even though it doesn't say...04:43
harrismError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual04:43
shriphanigparted doesnt seem to work04:43
vulcaniumAWOSDev, you know, creatives latest gaming sound card04:43
sethknex_, probably more accurate to say that packages are available for other processors04:43
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sethknex_, it isn't the same code.04:43
vulcaniumI don't really game much anymore04:43
THX-1138Madpilot - I am using the DVD image with three install methods.04:43
sethknex_, if you do the kernel configuration, and you set the processor type, then you'll find out whether smp support is available for that processor04:43
fogoshi someone use ipodder04:43
tonyyarussoJoelS: Either one should be pretty easy to do, just go to "manually edit partitions" and there you go.04:43
raindogI attempted to enable direct rendering for my ATI R340M Radeon card.  After installing glfrx and rebooting I can no longer get X to run.  How can I revert to the driver that ubuntu picked for it orginally?04:43
JoelStonyyarusso, I could always use the other partition like another drive in linux later, right?04:44
nex_sethk, how would i do that?04:44
MadpilotTHX-1138, never used it, know zip about the DVD stuff... sorry04:44
tonyyarussoJoelS: Yes.04:44
AWOSDevvulcanium, nope haven't heard of it04:44
laskahello there. Is anyoneknow how to reset admin password in Ubuntu?04:44
vulcaniumAWOSDev, wow.04:44
laskalaska@laska-main:/$ su04:44
vulcaniumdon't pay attention to hardware much?04:44
sethknex_, download the kernel source, and in the root of the kernel source tree, do:       make xconfig04:44
laskasu: Authentication failure04:44
nex_admin password is your password04:44
AngryParsleylaska: use your own password04:45
JoelStonyyarusso, so i'll just install it on the ext3 portion... right now i see dev/hda5 is swap 1 gig and dev/hda6 is 29 gig ext304:45
Madpilotlaska, you know Ubuntu uses sudo + your own password, right?04:45
laskanot working04:45
AngryParsleylaska: use sudo04:45
tonyyarussoJoelS: Sounds good.04:45
sethknex_, if for some reason you don't have enough support installed to do that, you can try     make gconfig           and, if that doesn't work,         make menuconfig04:45
AWOSDevvulcanium, I pay attention to network cards and SMP motherboards...get it now?  :)04:45
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sethknex_, they all do essentially the same thing.04:45
bdragonmslCan anyone help me with my 6.10 box?04:45
JoelStonyyarusso, so do I need to make any changes in the editor? or just hit forward?04:45
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jordan_sethk, Don't you think that is a bit much for a new user.04:45
AngryParsleyas in "sudo blah"04:45
shriphaniAWOSDev, how do i resize an ext3 partition ?04:45
vulcaniumAWOSDev, yeah... haha04:45
AngryParsleyblah being the command you want to run04:45
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AWOSDevlaska, sudo -s04:45
SilentDissonancerofl i think it's solved.  appears that the card inits the dvi output first, so i have to have a monitor attached there.  the standard vid out port is the secondary :P04:45
sethkjordan_, to build it, yes.  but to use it to discover whether smp support is available?  absolutely not.04:45
AWOSDevshriphani, gparted04:45
Madpilotbdragonmsl, possibly, if you ask an actual question :)04:45
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php04:45
tonyyarussoJoelS: No, just tell it to use that one for /04:45
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harrismis there anyone who can help?04:46
AWOSDevI personally like the LiveCD.04:46
bashusrok... i'm a newbie when it comes to gnome...04:46
jordan_sethk, sorry misread.04:46
THX-1138My bios doesn't see three installed video adapters. - Is there a software bios available?04:46
vulcaniumthat reminds me04:46
JoelStonyyarusso, can I prmsg?04:46
bashusranybody got a shortkey cheat sheet?04:46
vulcaniumthe first time I botted up thel ive cd04:46
vulcaniumit kinda crashed04:46
nex_you lost me at source tree04:46
bashusror specifically, how do i switch between workspaces?04:46
nex_but anyways04:46
sethkvulcanium, did it crash, or didn't it crash?   :)04:46
SilentDissonanceaargh, i spoke too soon.  still getting 'no screens found' in the log :(04:46
bdragonmslI'm trying to get glx to work in 6.10, but it keeps coming up with "sudo: nvidia-glx-xconfig: command not found"04:46
Madpilotbashusr, Ctrl+Alt+Left Arrow|Right Arrow04:46
bashusrit was ctrl+alt+# in kde back in the days when i used it04:46
tonyyarussoJoelS: You can, but #ubuntu-classroom might even be better (other people can follow help topics if they want)04:46
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wickedpuppybashusr, see the 4 mini windows beside the recycle bin ?04:46
THX-1138CTRL+ALT+ left/right arrow04:46
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nex_thanks for your help guys04:47
bashusrhow do i display desktop?04:47
CaptainMorganwhy am I getting a sudo cd /foodir error: cd command not found? and if cd /foodir I get permission denied??04:47
sethkbashusr, you mean with a key combination?  usually control-alt-1, control-alt-2, etc.  (1, 2, not f1, f2)04:47
nex_time to google!04:47
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vulcaniumactually, it did the EXACT same thing my debian install did04:47
laskaAWOSDev it worked!04:47
AWOSDevCaptainMorgan hmm04:47
AWOSDevlaska np :)04:47
DjuussHey my firefox is busted.. 'bookmark this page' now spawns a tiny new window, barely the size of my cursor, that you can stretch out to reveal its called 'firefox'  but has no content04:47
Madpilotbashusr, also, try hovering your mouse over the desktop switcher (bottom-right corner) and rolling your mousewheel up and down04:47
bashusrsethk: doesn't work on gnome :)04:47
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vulcaniumright after where thel ogin screen in debian was [or where it woudl be on thel ive cd]  it just stops04:47
Agrajag-gday, for some reason emulate3buttons seems to be happening for me although i do not have it set in my xorg.conf. what else might do this?04:47
bashusrMadpilot: on a laptop... no wheel thingie :)04:47
CaptainMorganit's a newly created dir AWOSDev, for a spim simulator i placed it in /usr/local/bin04:47
THX-1138sethk - okay that will give you different terminals. or user perms04:47
bashusris there a show desktop shortcut?04:47
AWOSDevCaptainMorgan try sudo -s then cd /foodir04:47
vulcaniumI got a sort of courruptedl ooking box in the middle of the screen04:47
wickedpuppybashusr, then just click them ...04:47
Madpilotbashusr, ctrl+alt+right/left arrow, then04:47
halex-abDjuuss: Try restarting Firefox..04:47
vulcaniumand it just sat there for as long as I would leave it04:48
bashusrMadpilot: affirmative... thanks04:48
sethkTHX-1138, control-alt-f# is for consoles (not terminals, consoles).  not control-alt-104:48
bashusrhow about desktop shortcut? ie. window+d in windows?04:48
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harrismcan anyone help me with my VGA card?04:48
Djuusshalex-ab, i cant, i'd lose this site that i want to bookmark :P04:48
CaptainMorganthanks AWOSDev  ;), why was that necessary if I was using sudo?04:48
AWOSDevCaptainMorgan, good question...ask the devs?  :P04:48
wickedpuppyDjuuss, you can save the bookmarks ...04:48
halex-abDjuuss, There's a thing called 'history' you know.. ;)04:48
bdragonmslI'm trying to get glx to work in 6.10, but it keeps coming up with "sudo: nvidia-glx-xconfig: command not found", I've installed all the glx, and I have a nvidia card.  Is there something that I'm doing wrong??04:48
Teri2007AWOSDev, I'm back... I think I'm registered now04:48
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THX-1138vulcanism - I am guessing you are using an lcd monitor?04:48
ChocoCidSo, what exactly is wrong with automatix?04:49
AWOSDevTeri2007 okay04:49
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MadpilotChocoCid, it breaks things, basically04:49
halex-abbdragonmsl, you're typing the wrong command.. it's nvidia-xconfig04:49
vulcaniumTHX-1138, nope, a crt.04:49
sethkbdragonmsl, that's part of the nvidia binary drivers04:49
ChocoCid"breaks things" how?04:49
ChocoCidis there a page that describes this stuff?04:49
Djuusswhat command was i looking for to see all running processes, but only print the ones that look like ' firefox'04:49
w30bashusr, right click on your panel and then left click on add; find the workplace swithere applet and add that to your panel. You can then click on a desktop that you want to go to.04:49
sethkChocoCid, before you use it, things work.  after you use it, they don't.04:49
vulcaniumthe live cd worked fine once I botted up in the dafe display mode I think it was called04:49
sethkDjuuss, ps aux | grep firefox04:50
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Teri2007AWOSDev, ok well I thought that worked but maybe not because you still can't see me I guess...hang on...04:50
ChocoCidso, no further details anywhere?04:50
MadpilotChocoCid, there is a page listing some of the problems with automatix, let me see if I can scare up the URL04:50
halex-abDjuuss, ps -A | grep firefox04:50
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toolateanyone have any clues to where i can find old ATI M7 drivers? my display works, but I have lines through buttons sometimes. not anything else, just buttons.04:50
AWOSDevTeri2007 okay04:50
ChocoCidthanks, that'd be nice, i used it on my dapper install and had problems with some other stuff afterwards04:50
CaptainMorganwhat's a good dir to do manual installs of programs? i thought /usr/local/bin, but not so sure04:50
ChocoCidthe idea seems great though, so i'm wondering what's up04:50
Djuussthanks, but didnt need it, there were two firefoxes floating around as tiny windows, and they didnt respond to killall -9 mozilla-firefox04:50
THX-1138!display > vulcanism04:50
bdragonmslI originally typed this though... sudo nvidia-glx-xconfig enable04:51
THX-1138!display > vulcanium04:51
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SilentDissonancegot x to boot off the default vesa set... gonna poke around a bit and see if I can make this work... if not, i might be back.  i see there's a lotta others around, and I can plink away solo for a bit.  thanks for the help and suggestion on vesa at least :)04:51
wickedpuppyDjuuss, i thought its kill -9 ...04:51
AWOSDevCaptainMorgan I prefer /usr/bin but that's just me04:51
vulcaniumwhat THX-1138 ?04:51
raindogQuestion:  I need to replace original driver for my ATI card.  How do I go about that?04:51
halex-abbdragonmsl, yeh, you're right.. heh04:51
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vulcaniumoh I see04:51
vulcaniumI will savethat for when I boot back into ubuntu later04:52
nex_ACPI objects?04:52
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jordan_raindog, What do you mean by 'replace'?04:52
Djuusswickedpuppy its kill -9 if you know the pid, but i just wanna kill *every* firefox, so i use killall04:52
wickedpuppyDjuuss, killall mozilla-firefox ?04:52
wickedpuppythis doesn't work ?04:52
THX-1138vulcanium - It should be an easy fix - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  or edit the sudo gedit or sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly04:52
shriphanibrb live cd booting to partition04:52
WhiteNoisewill compiling a vanilla kernel with little in the way of modules cause any problems with ubuntu's hotplug bootup scripts?04:52
halex-abwickedpuppy, killall firefox-bin works for me..04:53
jordan_nex_ Is AMD considered 686?04:53
wickedpuppyso its firefox-bin04:53
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Djuussit didnt :S i told you firefox was screwing up. but i just expanded the little windows and pressed their close button, now i started it again and it works04:53
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MadpilotChocoCid, apparently the page w/ the list of automatix issues got lost... too bad.04:53
wickedpuppypls try it Djuuss try killall firefox-bin04:53
THX-1138jordab_ - i am using the k7 kernel04:53
raindogjordan_:  I attempted to get direct rendering working by installing the glfrx driver instead of the default one Ubuntu installed as I can no longer get X to start.04:53
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bdragonmslis there a certain image I should have installed for my amd x2 4800?04:53
ChocoCidlet me guess, issues with package managers somehow?04:53
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Djuussyeh it was firefox-bin :( that explains then, hehe i feel like such a noob04:54
THX-1138bdragonmsl: linux smp04:54
jordan_raindog, did you make a backup of your xorg.conf?04:54
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docmurIf I wanted to block access to google using iptable it would be iptables -A OUTPUT04:54
raindogjordan_:  The process I used did create a backup.04:54
wickedpuppyDjuuss, you be surprised ... the name for vlc is wxvlc ...04:54
AWOSDevdocmur, uh, yeah04:55
THX-1138bdragonmsl: smp symetric multi processing.04:55
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Djuussi'm more of a xine/mplayer man myself04:55
AWOSDevdocmur, why block Google?  what did they *DO* to you?04:55
docmurokay ummm how to I tell it I'm using a www. address04:55
jordan_raindog, Good, then all you have to do is use the backup, I'll walk you through it.04:55
AWOSDevdocmur, translate it to IP address by using nslookup04:55
MadpilotChocoCid, that, some fairly bad coding errors, unsafe use of various override flags in apt-get... there were also personal issues with the original developer of automatix. He'd attack people who attempted to  report bugs.04:55
jordan_raindog, What was the backup called?04:55
bdragonmslDoes ubuntu normally not recognize anything??04:56
ChocoCidah, i see04:56
bdragonmslor do I just have a funky rig?04:56
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ChocoCidbdragonmsl, hardware-wise, certain wireless cards and stuff04:56
docmurthen whats the drop command04:56
bdragonmslk, well need a restart, be back in a few04:56
THX-1138bdragonmsl: Nah, usually everything is fine. for the display.04:56
raindogjordan_:  xorg.conf.0 replace or something.  I'm not entirely sure.  If I can get to the directory I'm sure I can identify it.04:56
laska how do you navigate in console?04:56
bdragonmslthanks guys!04:56
laskacd not working04:56
ChocoCidcd folder or cd .. to go up04:56
ChocoCiddo ls to see what subdirs are there04:57
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jordan_raindog, Ok, are you at a command prompt now04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/# cd / home04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/# cd / laska04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/# dir04:57
MadpilotChocoCid, the list is still up: http://www.novarata.net/comparison.html04:57
laskabin    dev   initrd          lib         mnt   root  sys  var04:57
laskaboot   etc   initrd.img      lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  vmlinuz04:57
laskacdrom  home  initrd.img.old  media       proc  srv   usr  vmlinuz.old04:57
Madpilotlaska, pastebin!04:57
laskaroot@laska-main:/# cd04:57
raindogjordan_:  Yes, I'm in recovery mode with a command prompt.04:57
wickedpuppylaska, pls stop it04:57
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halex-ablaska: better to use ls rather than dir04:57
jordan_raindog type `cd /etc/X11/`04:57
Madpilotlaska, I'll unmute you in a minute or three04:57
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THX-1138laska - careful sysops is flexinf muscles04:58
jordan_raindog, then `ls`04:58
DjuussChocoCid, what did automatix do?04:58
tji have had ubuntu installed for a while now - I unplugged /dev/hda (master - IDE0), and plugged in /dev/hdb ( made it master ) and installed XP - I then changed hdb back to slave and rebooted into Linux - edited grub to reflect the windows partition on (hd1,0) - but I get grub error 22 no partition.  Any ideas?04:58
ChocoCidoh, as far as i know, nothing wrong04:58
ChocoCidi fucked up my dapper install trying to get XGL/beryl working04:58
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:58
ChocoCidsilly me not backing up my xorg.conf04:58
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ChocoCider, sorry04:58
raindogjordan_:  I'm in in the root directory.04:59
halex-abheh, I did the same with Edgy04:59
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halex-abtj, looks like grub is still configured to use the old driving scheme..04:59
jordan_raindog, in /?04:59
halex-abtry hooking it back the old way and see if it boots..04:59
Madpilotlaska, mute's been removed. Next time, use a pastebin04:59
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THX-1138tj - the boot sector 1st 512 bytes is installed on the original master see ubotu's link.04:59
tji can boot into linux - just not into windows - i guess I need to clarify04:59
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:59
jordan_raindog, or /etc/X11?04:59
halex-abtj, sorry, I misunderstood..04:59
halex-abSee THX-1138's comments..05:00
raindogjordan_ I am in /etc/X11 now05:00
tjhow do I get grub to see my windows partition and install ...?05:00
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jordan_raindog, type `ls` to list the files in that directory.05:00
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halex-abraindog, you'll need to reinstall GRUB..05:00
docmurso I would do iptables -A OUTPUT -o ipaddress -j DROP05:00
raindogjordan_:  I have found the backup.  It is named xorg.conf.orginal-005:00
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:00
ChocoCidsaving xorg is such a ridiculously good idea it's astounding05:01
Djuussouch tj, thats gonna be a pain, sorry i cant help much05:01
wickedpuppydocmur, so you are going to block all instance of google ?05:01
ChocoCidwhy i decided not to do so is beyond me05:01
tjDjuuss: why is it going to be a pain?05:01
docmurit's not google I'm blocking05:01
jordan_raindog, type `sudo cp xorg.conf.original-0 xorg.conf`05:01
docmurit's a crack site05:01
docmurbut either way05:01
wickedpuppyah i see05:01
raindogjordan_:  Done05:02
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Djuusstj well YMMV, but i spent ages on a similar situation your describing05:02
docmurso how would I do it providing I have an IPaddress05:02
jordan_raindog, now type sudo GDM and x *should* load properly :)05:02
bdragonmsljust looked under my device manager and it is showing the graphics card as unknown05:03
tjDjuuss: hmmm - seems simple enough - thanks though05:03
wickedpuppydocmur, i were you i search on google for iptables ... there are plenty of tutorials and examples05:03
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Djuusstj: its probly me, grub and i arent too friendly it seems05:03
raindogjordan_:  Thank you very much.  It's always good to learn more about my system.  It's working as it should now.  I guess I'll just have to get used to no 3D acceleration.05:04
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tjDjuuss: i know the feeling - i have a feel for it, just thought I would pop in and see if anyone had a quick fix - that ubotu link is pretty good info05:04
THX-1138bdragonmsl: sudo lspci or lshw  should give you some info. - if you want to install an option other than vesa and generic.05:04
jordan_raindog, What instructions did you follow to get 3D working?05:04
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ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto05:05
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wickedpuppypostfix is great but my bloody isp blocks the ports ...05:06
jordan_raindog, Because I have seen pretty bad instructions for 3d acceleration out there.05:06
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raindogjordan_:  I found a entry in a dapper installation wiki that had some information that included some specifics about my video card.  I knew it could lead to problems, but according to the HOWto it sounded like I would be able to configure it correctly.05:06
amicrawleneed help seeing a ntfs harddrive05:06
amicrawlehow to05:06
wickedpuppysee ?05:07
wickedpuppyor write ?05:07
amicrawleit see is as dev/hdb105:07
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Djuusswickedpuppy, i just wanted to know what it was because my apt-get dist-upgrade prompted me with one of them blue/yellow config screens for 'postfix'. i dont get why it cant just wait 10 seconds, at no input skip it, and go on updating.05:07
wickedpuppyjust mount it ?05:07
amicrawlebut does not mount05:07
ChocoCidso, i downloaded qsynaptics, and try to run it... "Please install the synaptics touchpad driver! please enable X shared memory config in XF86config"05:07
jordan_raindog, Ok, that is always a good source, and may I recommend buying an intel or nvidea card for your next upgrade :)05:07
raindogjordan_:  I'll find the link now that X is running on the previously effected machine.05:07
ChocoCidis there a better way to turn off "tap to click" than qsynaptics? :\05:07
sethkDjuuss, add that feature and submit it to the development group, they'll add it to the next release if people like it.05:08
jordan_raindog, No need, the Ubuntu wiki is very reputable.05:08
wickedpuppyamicrawle, you got to give us more info ... what did you do ? is the hd detected ? and so on and on...05:08
raindogjordan_:  I certainly will, however, I'm using a laptop that was given to me while saving money for a new desktop.05:08
amicrawlei put it in05:08
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amicrawleand etc tab is not a dir05:08
amicrawleit sayes05:08
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sethkChocoCid, that's a very very old version that you downloaded, at least two years out of date05:08
Djuusssethk how would i go about doing that. (without using postfix ;))05:08
sethkChocoCid, see if you can find it, or something that replaces it, that is nwere.05:08
ChocoCidwell, the ubuntu wiki is 2 years out of date then :(05:08
wickedpuppyamicrawle, what you saying ... makes no sense .. you put what in where ? and whats etc tab ?05:09
raindogjordan_:  It wasn't the official wiki....   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide05:09
sethkDjuuss, you said you want it to assume the answer is no after a certain amount of time.  So add a feature that does so for questions asked during install.05:09
jordan_nex_, did you ever get your SMP situation worked out?05:09
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sethkDjuuss, or did I misunderstand what you meant?05:09
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nex_jordan_, not really05:09
amicrawlehow do i mount a ntfs drive in ubnutu05:09
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Djuusssethk, you got it, i just meant how to i suggest it?05:09
nex_jordan_, i was just doing some research on it05:09
ChocoCidmy HDA1 drive mounted automagically this time (on edgy)05:09
wickedpuppymount -t ntfs /dev/hd? /media/folder_name05:10
sethkDjuuss, you look at the source for the installation program, change it do to what you want, and submit the change05:10
wickedpuppysudo ... pardon me05:10
w30tj, Windows wants to be booted from the first hard drive so I think you need to remap hda2 to hda1 in grub. Can't quite remember the syntax for it though.05:10
Djuusssethk.. heh. if i knew how to do that, i'd be using gentoo or LFS05:10
sethkDjuuss, then it will be accepted or not accepted.  Probably it would either be accepted, or made an optional behavior.05:10
sethkDjuuss, that makes no sense.05:10
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tjw30: thanks05:11
sethkDjuuss, lfs perhaps.  gentoo is ... well, that's off topic, I'll get yelled at.05:11
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tjw30: i'll see what I can do05:11
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amicrawlemount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what it sayes05:11
sethkDjuuss, but the whole idea of open source is that people see things they think will improve it, so they do those things, and then everyone get's the benefit of using them.05:11
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sethkDjuuss, if you meant that you couldn't make that change, you underrate yourself.05:11
jordan_raindog, those instructions look good, if you are willing you can try another solution that has a slight chance of working.05:12
wickedpuppyamicrawle, do you have hdb1 ? sudo fdisk /dev/hdb05:12
DjuussSethk, ok i'll try then! where would i find the source to the installation (or in this case update) thing?05:12
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w30tj type grub then help map05:12
sethkDjuuss, it would take some work, surely, and the first time you delve into it is the worst, but you can do it.  If you find the idea (changing it) attractive, then try it, you'll get plenty of help.  If you don't think you would enjoy doing it, that's a different story.05:12
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raindogjordan_:  What do you suggest?05:12
amicrawlei have and drive05:12
nex_going to bed, gnight everyone05:13
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wickedpuppyamicrawle, eh ah i should have said sudo fdisk -l ... you see hdb1 ?05:13
jordan_raindog, type `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` and be sure to choose fglrx when asked about the driver.05:13
sethkDjuuss, there are source ubuntu repositories that have the source for everything that is used.  get onto the ubuntu site.  If you know the name of a program, you can dig out the source for it easily.  (once you learn the system, which takes a few days).05:13
amicrawlebut when try to look  i get that message05:13
wickedpuppyamicrawle, then the exact command you type was ?05:13
w30tj, I think the line goes map "to drive" "from drive"05:14
amicrawlemount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what it sayes sudo  mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb105:14
Djuusssethk i'll get to it when i up my refresh rate from 60hz to 100, i'm getting a headache. That will be after these updates finish, and after i install KDE over it05:14
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sethkDjuuss, the thing to do would be to find out who worked on the part of the program you want to modify.  Then send an email to him, and ask him where he would start to look at something like that.05:14
bashusris there a graphical way to edit grub.conf?05:14
wickedpuppyamicrawle, the command is sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/folder_name05:14
sethkDjuuss, ok05:14
sethkDjuuss, just a suggestion  :)05:14
wickedpuppyamicrawle, you got to put it somewhere05:14
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sethkDjuuss, I doubt you really want your vertical frequency to be 100, but definitely more than 60-05:15
wickedpuppyamicrawle, create a folder in /media or anywhere .. i recommend /media .. done ?05:15
sethkDjuuss, which video board do you use?05:15
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purplefeltangelwhat does Printing: No %BoundingBox: comment in header! mean05:15
sethkpurplefeltangel, that's a postscript thing, usually safe to ignore05:15
Djuussa nvidia geforce fx 5700, on a 21 inch screen. I'm gonna run it at 1600x1200 @100hz05:15
jordan_raindog, If it asks any questions you aren't sure about either trust it and just go with the default or ask here.05:15
ferossbashusr: you can use gedit05:15
bashusris there a graphical utility to edit boot options?05:16
amicrawlemade it in my home05:16
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amicrawlecalled windwos05:16
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purplefeltangelwhat does Printing: No %BoundingBox: comment in header! mean05:16
sethkDjuuss, ok, the card should certainly handle it.  we can force it to believe you have a monitor that can handle it.05:16
ferossbashusr: oh you mean like a wizard not a text editor... hmm05:16
bashusrfeross: in other wards... you gotta manually edit it yourself05:16
wickedpuppyamicrawle, type sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /home/username/windows <--- change username to your user name05:16
bashusrfeross: yes like a wizard...05:16
bashusrfine i'll vim it.05:16
Djuusssethk, well my monitor can handle 2048xWhathisface @ 82hz , but my eyes cant read letters that small05:17
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swashbucklinstevIf anyone is having problems with apt lately, and you are unable to update after a new install of Dapper, please see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1364819&postcount=4 - your problem could be related to your apt.conf. It fixed me up.05:18
DjuussMy dist-upgrade is finished, one package gave an error, /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb   is that system critical?05:18
wickedpuppyyou use lvm ?05:18
Dr_willispurplefeltangel,  where are you seeing that at?05:18
wickedpuppyif not then shouldn't be05:18
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Djuussperhaps if i knew what lvm was i'd use it05:18
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO05:18
r070r0073rexcellent - got kismet working with the broadcom 4318...05:18
raindogjordan_:  Answering questions.....is it ctrl alt backspace to restart X?05:18
Djuussahhh that, no i dont05:18
swashbucklinstevDjuuss: Linux Volume Manager05:19
purplefeltangelDr_willis: printer properties -- but never mind, i figured out what the problem was05:19
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wickedpuppyi thought logical volume manager ... no ?05:19
jordan_raindog, Yes.05:19
Djuussyeh, no i dont use it05:19
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: which driver are you using?05:19
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Dr_willisalt-ctrl-backspace Can be set to 'force X to quit - with extreme prejudice' (ie kills X right then and there) :)05:19
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Djuuss'can be set' ? i thought it was always set like that05:19
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ardchoillesudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:20
Dr_willisDjuuss,  its often the default.. but its disabable/05:20
THX-1138Dr_willis - careful with that command ati cards dislike it better is to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:20
Dr_willisTHX-1138,  i dont run gdm :P05:20
w30Dr_willis, how do you kill X when it takes your keyboard and mouse with it?05:20
Djuussheh why would you disable that, its awesome05:20
raindogjordan_:  Same as before.  X server couldn't load properly.  Time to replace the xorg.conf again.05:20
Dr_willisor KDM lol05:20
Dr_willisw30,  thas when you ssh in. ;p05:20
AWOSDevw30 yeah good question05:20
wickedpuppyw30, unplug the power cord05:20
AWOSDevw30 that happened to me too - the power button :)05:20
Dr_willisw30,  or if cant do that.. theres buttons on the front of the pc.. :P05:21
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w30wickedpuppy, yah that works05:21
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Djuussuh oh05:21
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w30wickedpuppy, go to the closet and filp the switch that says MAIN05:22
Djuussi'm getting worried, apt-get dist-upgrade finished, i did apt-get check and it didnt find any dependancy issues.. then i typed apt-get install on a whim and now its installing loads of stuff. Should i worry?05:22
cod  How hard is it to replace nautilus with something else?05:22
ferossbashusr: hmm looks like there was a grubconf but I can't find it in current repos05:22
wickedpuppywhy need to off everything in the house ? :P05:22
laskaGuys, here is situation: want to watch stream video, win media format, at yahoo music videos, Have Firefox. What do i have to do?05:22
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bashusrfeross: no problem...05:22
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bashusri'm good with vim :)05:22
bashusri'm just trying to do it the "ubuntu" way05:22
w30wickedpuppy, then all the clocks say 8805:23
ChocoCidwhy? the whole point of linux is that you can do stuff how you want05:23
laskadid install extension win media connectivity, not working05:23
Dr_willislaska,  i saw a firefox exenesion the othe day that can 'smart download' videos from a lot of those sites.. makes it easie to play them after they are downloaded. :P not embeded05:24
Djuusslaska, apt-get cache-search mplayer05:24
amicrawleok it is mounted on /05:24
wickedpuppyChocoCid, not true .. linux can't make my computer fly :P05:24
amicrawlehow to retrive the stuff now05:24
ChocoCidsure it can, take your linux computer on a plane05:24
wickedpuppyamicrawle, on / ? what happened to ya home/username/windows ?05:24
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r070r0073rswashbucklinstev - windows broadcom driver (bcm43xx-fwcutter bcmv15.sys).05:24
ChocoCidF broadcom for not working right on linux05:25
JSeligsteinOooh Ubuntu auto-configures grub for you??? nice...05:25
laskaE: Invalid operation cache-search05:25
cynicallaska: doing sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs totem-xine totem-xine-firefox-plugin will let you play any media (assuming you have w32codecs installed)05:25
amicrawledo i do a umount to unmonut05:25
r070r0073rworks fine for me... i am using it with kismet as we speak.05:25
bdragonmslk, re-installed the drivers for glx, and tried to run the driver and this is what i got...05:25
bdragonmslsudo nvidia-glx-config enable05:25
bdragonmslError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed05:25
bdragonmslthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.05:25
ChocoCidhow do i get broadcom to work on edgy? same way as dapper?05:25
Djuusswickedpuppy, it could if you had two external fans, one on the top aiming down and one on an extended piece of metal aiming clockwise, connected to your pc by serial port05:25
sethkbdragonmsl, the nvidia kernel module is not installed05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cafuego - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
wickedpuppyamicrawle, why you want to umount if you want to get things ?05:25
bdragonmslwhere's that?05:26
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w30ChocoCid, depends on what kid of batteries it has nowadays eh?05:26
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:26
amicrawleto make a new dir05:26
cod  ------  is it possible to make drawer icons bigger than 48 pixels?05:26
wickedpuppyDjuuss, i will keep that in mind :P05:26
sethkbdragonmsl, it is part of the package that is downloaded from the nivida web site.05:26
sethkbdragonmsl, I'm not sure where it is in repositories05:26
amicrawlemake  a /home/user/windows05:26
wickedpuppyamicrawle, well then yah umount and mount it where you want it to be05:26
laskais only available from another source05:26
laskaE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate05:26
r070r0073ryou catch that?05:26
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sethkbdragonmsl, to use the stuff from nvidia.org, you must be able to install kernel source and build the kernel.05:26
amicrawleumount: /: device is busy05:26
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: ah, I figured you would, the linux drivers aren't mature yet but they're in the kernel or so I heard. I have a HP Pavilion dv5210us with a Broadcom bcm43xx card, where do you pick up the driver again?05:26
sethkbdragonmsl, it's not difficult to do, but it scares lot's of people.05:27
wickedpuppyamicrawle, are you currently in it ?05:27
amicrawleno trying to get to it05:27
laskaid on't think have xine. Totem05:27
bdragonmslso, do I just need to goto nvidia and download their core?05:27
bdragonmslI mean kernel05:27
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sureshotdoes anyone here use cedega if so do you knowwere i can get the updates manually .. the cedega channel is a ghost channel05:27
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wickedpuppyamicrawle, whats the dir name you mounted in ?05:28
amicrawlei made it in /05:28
r070r0073ri am using an acer laptop and got it from their website (acer).05:28
Djuusssureshot, try bittorrent.. o wait, warez are offtopic05:28
wickedpuppyamicrawle, you can't mount to / ... / is root partition05:28
amicrawlei want to chage it to my user dir05:28
r070r0073rwinners don't do warez05:28
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: I bet HP has it then :-)05:28
wickedpuppyamicrawle, did you do mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 / ?05:28
JamesFosterDjuuss: I don't think Cedega binaries are "warez". They're not illegal, as far as I can tell.05:28
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r070r0073rya... i've got a screencap vid of what i had to do if you need help.05:28
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sureshoti bought it05:29
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amicrawleyes sayes it is mounted05:29
Djuusswell they are commercial apps that youre supposed to pay for in order to download05:29
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munkayhas anyone had any success with built-in sd/mmc card readers for laptops ?05:29
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swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: ndiswrapper seems pretty straight forward, is there anything that surprised you like maybe an unexpected configuration step? special settings?05:29
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JamesFosterThey don't get commonly distributed because Transgaming chucks a tantrum and threatens to stop distributing the source under the license it currently is using.05:30
johny5I used Automatix to install a couple of CD burning apps, and now all I get are coasters when I try to burn audio discs from MP3s.  Can anybody help me rectify this?05:30
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wickedpuppyamicrawle, ah ... when you go to / ... what do you see ? /bin /etc and so on ?05:30
Djuussjamesfoster .. what??05:30
r070r0073rnope... was pretty simple. i understand the broadcom drivers have been reverse engineered http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=41046005:30
r070r0073rdidn't have much luck w/ them though05:30
bdragonmslI found something in synaptic under nvidia kernel.  Says it's installed though.05:30
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sureshotwell it locks up in ubuntu just wanted some info did not mean to put someone in a tiff just a question if any could answer i would be appreciative05:31
wickedpuppyjohny5, moral of the story is never use automatix ... second what cd burning apps did the script install ?05:31
johny5My first time with Automatix.  I guess it's no good?05:31
JamesFosterDjuuss: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/05/msg02823.html05:31
Djuusssureshot, technically you can be appreciative without anyone answering your question05:31
r070r0073ri wonder if aircrack will run on it, swashbucklinstev05:31
Djuussthanks jamesfoster05:31
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: yeah, they need tlc, I doubt they'll get it though when ndiswrapper is so easy and cheap (effort)05:31
THX-1138broadcom drivers reverse engineeered? - great now i can be arrested for the digital millenium copyright act. - ain't america grand.05:31
johny5wickedpuppy, but now none of the cd burning apps work.05:31
ardchoillejohny5: Are you trying to burn something that you don't have read access to? gnomebaker won't give an error for that, it'll just burn a coaster.05:32
Djuusssureshot: to answer your question, www.btjunkies.com, type cedega in search05:32
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wickedpuppyjohny5, what apps ? you said gnomebaker .. what else ?05:32
swashbucklinstevI really do heart ndiswrapper05:32
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w30if you get the install program off Nvidia.com don't use the Ubuntu synaptic sources too because they will fight each other.05:32
swashbucklinstevTHX-1138: I blame Abramoff05:32
bdragonmsl***w30, I tried that several times and it's just not working05:32
johny5wickedpuppy, I have rw access to everything.  It will decode the tracks fine, but when it gets about halfway through the burn, it freaks out05:32
bdragonmslShould I just try to go back to 6.06?05:33
r070r0073rbut i didn't think you could run kismet w/ ndiswrapper + broadcom... maybe you just want the device to work period. ;)05:33
wickedpuppyjohny5, just gnomebaker ? then uninstall it05:33
THX-1138swashbucklinstev - Mickey Mouse is a communist - lol05:33
sureshotthanks wickedpuppy some people here are just too good to answer someone question that he cant find the answer to anyware would ask if it could have the cedega channel is a ghost town05:33
wickedpuppyand reinstall it from synaptic or apt-get ... it burns fine ..05:33
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swashbucklinstevTHX-1138: :-D05:33
THX-1138swashbucklinstev - Mickey Mouse is a facsist??05:33
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w30bdragonmsl, if you make your own kernel compile then you probably need the nvidia.com installer.05:33
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wickedpuppysureshot, you sure its me ?05:33
r070r0073rcatch ya later, swashbucklinstev - check out my site sometime -- http://passivemode.net05:33
jordanraindog, I got disconnected for a while so if you asked me any questions after the one about ctrl alt backspace you are going to have to repeat them.05:34
swashbucklinstevr070r0073r: cool, thx05:34
swashbucklinstevTHX-1138: Is there any limit to his deprevity?05:34
r070r0073r<- needs to sudo apt-get install life05:34
THX-1138swashbucklinstev: rofl05:34
sureshotmiss read i am diabetic eyes are not to good but thanks anyway05:34
LaneI have some questions that begin "What distro is best for ...". Is there a channel that caters to these questions05:34
johny5Still no good.05:34
mlwallaHey all.  Long time noob, first time question-asker.  trying to configure the proprietary nvidia driver, and having trouble.  Is there anyway to redirect the error messages from xserver (xwindows?) to a file that can be used for later reference.  Further, is it possible to make that happen automatically with startup?  The problem I'm having is that when I hit ctrl+alt+bckspc to test my xorg.conf settings.  Any help appreciated so t05:35
wickedpuppyjohny5, pls ... explain...05:35
wickedpuppyLane, yes05:35
JSeligsteinHey guys, whats the correct process for installing something? sudo apt-get mysql ? say?05:35
wickedpuppyto all your answers , pls use ubuntu05:35
Dr_willisLane,  most all the disrtos can do the same jobs.. some are just designed with a specific job in mind from the start. :)   so often the best is the one that you know best.05:35
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ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:35
w30bdragonmsl, then there is the nvidia-xconfig to configure xorg.conf for you.05:35
amicrawleok got it mounted05:35
amicrawlenow there is a lock on it05:36
amicrawlehow to unlock it05:36
wickedpuppyamicrawle, use sudo05:36
johny5wickedpuppy, removed gnomebaker and tried to burn disk with Serpentine...now it won't even decode the MP305:36
wickedpuppyor chmod05:36
sureshotdjuuss that was a good url to get rid of me thanks for nothing05:36
LaneDr_willis, I know mepis best but I don't think I want to use it as a web/dns server.05:36
JSeligsteinDr_willis, and do i need to do an upadte ?05:36
amicrawle`windows': Read-only file system05:36
Dr_willisLane,  you could...05:36
wickedpuppyjohny5, use k3b ...05:36
bsnideris there an x configuration program?05:36
Djuusssureshot, my intentions were not to get rid of you. I downloaded cedega from there just yesterday05:36
THX-1138swashbucklinstev: Mickey Mouse is baphonet - yes! baphonet.05:36
wickedpuppyamicrawle, use chmod05:36
LaneDr_willis, not saying I couldn't.05:37
jordanraindog, I got disconnected, how is the dpkg-reconfigure going?05:37
amicrawlechmod to what05:37
amicrawlea+rx ?05:37
Dr_willisLane,  and from what i gatehr Mepis is  basicially using all the ubuntu repos/packages now.. and some extras..05:37
wickedpuppyamicrawle, 775 or 777 ...05:37
mlwallaedit: the problem is that my system hangs when I restart X to see if I got things working05:37
sureshotthat was www.btjunkies.com i got homes for sell and such05:37
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wickedpuppyit need not be secured anyway .. its your own machine05:37
jordanbsnider, Sort of, `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` but that probably isn't what you want.05:37
amicrawlechmod: changing permissions of `windows': Read-only file system05:38
Dr_willisLane,  of course the heart of the disrtos are the apt-get system I guess..and the debian  type core..   the rest is just frosting on the server-cake :)05:38
amicrawlesudo chmod 777 windows05:38
wickedpuppyamicrawle, btw .. read only means you can still copy .. are you tryring to write ?05:38
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LaneDr_willis, Great, debian it is.05:38
stargazeri am trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy and after 2 hours of downloading it saids "error reading from server, unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing05:38
Djuusssureshot, whoops, typo, i'm looking for the proper address now05:38
stargazerwhat does this mean?05:38
amicrawleno just trying to look05:38
wickedpuppyamicrawle, then just cd ...05:39
Dr_willisLane,  thats always good. :P   of course once ya learn the fundamentals.. the rest is easy05:39
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johny5wickedpuppy, k3b is saying unable to handle files due to unsupported format05:39
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amicrawlecd: windows: Permission denied05:39
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sureshotthanks and i applogize for my attitude05:39
wickedpuppyjohny5, you need to get restricted modules ...05:39
wickedpuppyamicrawle, may i ask what you typed ?05:40
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swashbucklinstevTHX-1138: It may be worse than that!05:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:40
amicrawlecd windows05:40
LaneDr_willis, My nokia runs debian, my laptop runs debian, and my future web/dns server runs debian... if only it could run IOS like my routers05:40
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:40
amicrawlebash: cd: windows: Permission denied05:40
Dr_willisLane,  my NSLU2 runs a debian variant now. :P05:40
wickedpuppyamicrawle, ls -l and paste to us the permission pls05:40
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wickedpuppyjust the windows05:40
LaneDr_willis, NSLU2?05:41
amicrawledr-x------  1 root       root05:41
wickedpuppyamicrawle, sudo cd05:41
amicrawlethat is what it is05:41
Dr_willisLane,  a little fileserver. has 2 usb ports for hard drives.. by Linksys. about $8005:41
jordansudo cd won't work.05:41
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Djuussbrb restarting in what i hope will be 6.0605:41
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LaneDr_willis, cool deal I will have to check it out.05:41
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wickedpuppyjordan, can help him ? i going for lunch ...05:42
brian98anyone know if apache 1.3 or 2.x can do .net stuff?05:42
mlwallawow...lotta questions flying around in here05:42
brian98or should i go to #apache05:42
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jordanwickedpuppy, What is he trying to do?05:42
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AngryParsleyehh, there is a mod_mono05:42
AngryParsleybut it sucks05:42
wickedpuppybrian98, go into that dir05:42
LaneDr_willis, reccomended mirror for debian? Or should I use torrent?05:42
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mlwallais it proper etiquette to just keep asking til someone notices yours?05:42
jordanThen yes.05:42
AngryParsleybrian98: ask about it in #apache05:43
AWOSDevbrian98, it can host sites that end in .net05:43
amicrawlecan any body help me05:43
brian98just I have been05:43
johny5wickedpuppy, it would seem that I already have them.05:43
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jordanamicrawle, type `sudo su`05:43
brian98installing ubuntu severs now for a long time05:43
wickedpuppyLane, if you have to ask us for everything .... i don't think you are ready for linux .. pls use google ...05:43
brian98and someone want windows 2003 with msssql05:43
JoelS2 if i connect ethernet after linux boots, how do i tell it to refresh? i thought it was ifconfig eth0 up but it didn't work.05:43
Dr_willisLane,  your speeds may vary. :P my torrent speeds are always slow. :(05:43
brian98and I really don't want the hassle ;)05:43
stargazercan you answer this? how do you save in vi?05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
JoelS2stargazer, :w05:44
AWOSDevJoelS2, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart05:44
Dr_willisesc :wq05:44
JoelS2AWOSDev, thanks!!05:44
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code05:44
wickedpuppyjohny5, well .. i never use automatix so can't say whats ya machine is like now ...05:44
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AWOSDevJoelS2 np05:44
Dr_willis:help    -- is handy to rember in vi as well05:44
AWOSDevI love vi :)05:44
johny5wickedpuppy, first and last time for me.  thanks for your help.05:44
brian98Dr_willis,  I prever nano05:44
jordanamicrawle, Then you should be able to `cd windows`05:44
JoelS2AWOSDev, command not found?05:44
wickedpuppyjohny5, no prob ... :P05:44
wickedpuppyJoelS2, may we ask what you typed ? exactly05:45
brian98Dr_willis, I guess it's because I used wordstar in the 80's05:45
wickedpuppyoh wrong person05:45
JoelS2Exactyly what you typed05:45
wickedpuppylunch time!05:45
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amicrawleok did now how do i see the folder  user mode with out05:45
Dr_willisNerdStar :)05:45
LaneDr_willis, my torrent speeds are also slow...should I suspect throttling?05:45
w30sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:45
swashbucklinstevI'm gettin out of here, twilight zone is on05:45
brian98Lane, it's usual to happen05:45
wicked_luncheh jordan can also remind him not to use root shell always ? thanks05:46
Dr_willisLane,  no idea there.. ive gotten good speeds on some torrents.. like ISO's when first released...  so it all depends on the torrents i guess05:46
THX-1138Lane - yes. most isps find it fashionable05:46
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JoelS2Ah okay... going to check, thanks :)05:46
dash`anybody have experience with ssh and sshfs ?05:46
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LaneThrottling seems to be a hot subject.05:47
jordanamicrawle, Now you want to make that folder readable by your normal, non root, user with chown...05:48
johny5wicked_lunch, that was rather silly of me...didn't install the k3b mp3 decoder lib....thanks again.05:48
THX-1138Lane - If you pay for 600kbs down and 325kbs a second up why should you be able to use it all? - heck they already limit upspeed right?05:48
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amicrawleso i do a chow /home/user/windwos?05:49
jordanamicrawle, To do that first get out of that directory with `cd ..`05:49
morriganinfligh1does anyone here know anything about rhythmbox?05:49
jordanamicrawle, Exactly.05:49
LaneTHX-1138, Can you send me proof that throttling happens? I mean I don't doubt that it does I just haven't seen solid proof.05:49
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amicrawlebash: chow: command not found05:50
THX-1138Hi cafuego.05:50
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown yourUserName folderPath`05:50
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jribmorriganinfligh1: someone probably knows something about it05:50
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THX-1138cafuego - Were you hosting a broadcom driver?05:50
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morriganinfligh1thanks jrib...I'm new to ubuntu and to IRC..please forgive any unintended blunders05:51
devnullmy gnome-panel's aren't working or responding to input anymore .... anyone run into this problem before ?05:51
jribmorriganinfligh1: it's best to just ask your real question and then see if anyone can answer it :)05:51
amicrawlechow: command not found05:51
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THX-1138devnull - are you using glx?05:51
jribamicrawle: chown  with an 'n'05:51
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jordanamicrale chowN.05:51
devnullTHX-1138, no im not05:51
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THX-1138devnull - that was my guess. - sry05:52
morriganinfligh1*grin* thanks again, jrib....I am trying to figure out how to alter audio file properties so that rhythmbox will read the artist, title, etc05:52
amicrawleok how do i chown the hole folder05:52
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devnullhehe thank you though05:52
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown yourUserName folderPath`05:52
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JoelSOKay, I still can't get an internet connection... does it matter if it tries to use IPv6 or IPv4?05:52
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ellioTbwhat up05:53
devnulli would actually like to switch over to xfce but i can't find replacements for some gnome-applets and software05:53
amicrawlechown: missing operand after `/home/amicrawler/windows05:53
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JoelSAWOSDev, it appears to be trying to use IPv605:53
w30Lane, play with this:http://www.zdnet.com.au/broadband/speedtest.htm05:53
THX-1138devnull - do you have something added launched using Sessions .. Start Up programs?05:53
Gigiyai'm new to IRC and pretty new to ubuntu05:53
LarkenI've recently aquired a live disk from one of my teachers, and I tried to install it on an old laptop (it was dropped, spits out the OS NOT FOUND error.) I get to the Ubuntu startup and say run/install or something of the like and then it starts to boot/install. However, once it gets to "Configuring X" it seems to shut down and goes back to a blank blinking prompt. No keys then work and it has to be restarted. Any ideas?05:53
ellioTbdevnull, why do you have to replace them? i am in xfce and everything is working for me05:53
ellioTbGigiya, me too05:53
LaneOK, now I feel like an idiot but ia64 is the distro I download for the standard 64bit i386 chipset?05:53
morriganinfligh1me three, gig05:53
amicrawlechown: missing operand after `/home/amicrawler/windows05:53
LaneNever done the 64 bit thing with linux.05:53
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.05:53
amicrawleany clues05:53
ColonelPanic001I have a USB card-reader which normally works beautifully, but now for seemingly no reason I notice the power light on it isn't even on. Is there something that could have "turned off" the USB ports?05:53
djuussok problem: i cant log in to X as a normal user, because of ownership problems with my home directory05:54
devnullTHX-1138, nothing i added manualy but i think it might be deskbar on the panel that is messing it up05:54
JoelSAWOSDev, unless its my ISP, something is wrong, DHCP isn't working correctly or something05:54
AWOSDevJoelS, IPv4 but I'm not sure how05:54
jordanamicrawle, What are you typing exactly?05:54
jribmorriganinfligh1: it should just read the tags on the file automatically.  What does rhythmbox do currently for you?  Does it just display the filename instead?05:54
w30Lane, ia64 is Itaniam05:54
AWOSDevJoelS, I'll try helping in a little bit, I'm kinda busy right now05:54
ferossLarken: when you say 'old' laptop how old are we talking.. PII ?05:54
amicrawlesudo chown -R /home/amicrawler/windows05:54
Lanewell freak05:54
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JoelSAnyone else know how to force IPv4?05:54
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ellioTbdevnull, why don't you just install xfce and check it out, takes like 30 secs to install, and then you can just swtich over to it, to see if you like it05:55
devnullellioTb, i need something to change my cpu speed05:55
ColonelPanic001no ideas, anyone?05:55
THX-1138devnull - ah. okay. i am 2 for 2 wrong can i stop guessing now?05:55
jordanamicrawle, no...05:55
devnullellioTb, i have had xfce on here for awhile05:55
jribmorriganinfligh1: or do you just want to edit the current tags?05:55
Larkenfeross- lemme look it up, haven't used it in ages05:55
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.05:55
ellioTbdevnull, ahh, change your CPU speed? never heard of that05:55
devnullellioTb, that is why i installed ubuntu originally but found that gnome finally got their act together05:55
ghostwho can help me05:55
morriganinfligh1jrib - on some of the files it reads everything...on other files there are no tags...so perhaps my question should be how to add tags?05:55
jordanamicrawle, You forgot the user name.05:55
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ellioTbdevnull, yeah, i just use xfce cause i am on an older laptop with not much ram05:55
devnullTHX-1138, it probably is something starting up in the session05:55
morriganinfligh1(you got there be foer me *grin*(05:55
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amicrawlechown: missing operand after `amicrawler/windows'05:55
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amicrawleTry `chown --help' for more information.05:56
devnullellioTb, technically i guess i have xubuntu though i have gnome completely installed aswell05:56
amicrawlecan you spell it out 4 me please05:56
jordanamicrawle, you need to be sure you follow this exactly...05:56
`kaotHi folks.  IDE cdrom drive(s) not working on a system with SATA.  Anyone know anything about this?05:56
jribmorriganinfligh1: ah, well there is a nice tool called 'easytag' you can install.  I also believe you can right click on the file listed in rythmbox and edit its properties that way too.  If you want to try easytag, you'll need to have enabled the universe repository05:56
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.05:56
ghostquestion : which package needed when i install alsa05:56
THX-1138devnull - careful, modifying it leaves no way to back up un modified version.05:57
ellioTbdevnull, yeah, i am ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed05:57
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Lanew30, should I get the i386 then?05:57
crimsunghost: alsa's already installed by default05:57
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jordanamicrawle, I think you are forgetting the user name.05:57
devnullTHX-1138, are you talking about the session file ?05:57
morriganinfligh1ok, jrib...where do I get easytag and and how do I enable universe repository?05:57
Larkenfeross- pIII05:57
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morriganinfligh1(btw, jrib, really appreciate the help)05:57
amicrawleis my user name amicrawle05:58
ColonelPanic001anyone know anything about USB devices suddenly and seemingly randomly shutting off completely?05:58
amicrawleis my user name amicrawler05:58
w30Lane, do you have a 64bit box?05:58
devnullim just glad i found a good session extension for firefox because i missed session support from galeon05:58
jribmorriganinfligh1: system > administration > synaptic is the tool you should use to install your software (or add/remove programs as well).  I'll have ubotu send you the information for the universe repository05:58
jribubotu: tell morriganinfligh1 about universe05:58
Lanew30, It is in the mail.05:58
jordanamicrawle, To check type exit, then cd ~05:58
PFAon opera, FLash only plays 2 seconds of any video with no sound. on firefox it will completely play but there is no sound. how do i fix these problems. please do not point me to RestrictedFormats.05:58
jribPFA: did you setup aoss?05:59
Dr_willisflash is a bit of a disaster at this time... :(05:59
amicrawleok did05:59
PFAjrib: i'm not sure05:59
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w30Lane, Is your 64 bit box or your 32bit box in the mail?05:59
jribPFA: that's what is on restrictedformats ;)05:59
`kaotHi folks.  IDE cdrom drive(s) not working on a system with SATA.  Anyone know anything about this?05:59
jordannow cd ..05:59
ferossLarken: hmm not too bad. when you boot look at the boot options, could try different video settings.05:59
Lanew30, 64bit.05:59
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beefsprocketanyone want to give me a hand with debootstrap? got a peculiar error05:59
Larkenfeross- I've just rebooted06:00
morriganinfligh1thanks jrib andubotu....now I have a starting place...much appreciated!06:00
Larkenfeross- what should I try?06:00
jordanamicrawle, BTW, I am tired right now, there are easier ways of doing this I just can't remember :)06:00
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jribPFA: there is a troubleshooting section for flash, taht should resolve your firefox flash sound problem.  I don't know about opera06:00
jribmorriganinfligh1: np06:00
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jordanamicrawle, now type ls06:00
ferossLarken: hold a sec.. brb06:00
ColonelPanic001very strange. Usually kubuntu even auto-mounts the usb card reader and everything06:00
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jordanamicrawle, That should show you your user name.06:01
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ALMimonihi, i have creative live! card and it's doesnt run on ubuntu but run on fedora, can i copy /etc folder to ubuntu to get works?06:01
ALMimoni*sound card06:02
yokobrheeeelp! i can boot anything from cd here =/06:02
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amicrawle...   /home/amicrawler06:02
w30Lane you can install the 386 install on the 64 bit box ok and it will run at 32 bit. If you install the 64 bit install it will run at 64 bit which is better. However you will have problems getting some 3rd party stuff going on 64 bit installs like flash player and some codecs and RealPlayer.06:02
ubotusoundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth06:02
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jordanamicrawle, Good, then your username is amicrawle06:02
PFAjrib: okay, it's all well and good, but . . . i hate Firefox and i would much rather use Opera.06:02
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jordanamicrawle, What is the directory again?06:03
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orbinyokobr: set it in bios?06:03
THX-1138!PFA - It is in the commercial non-free repository.06:03
Lanew30, I know that I want to run the 64 bit version. The problem is at: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ there is no 64 bit install06:03
beefsprocketdebootstrap anyone?06:03
amicrawle.. /home/amicrawler/windows06:03
jordanamicrawle, the full path.06:03
PFATHX-1138: yes, i have opera installed -- i'm talking about flash; there's a fix for firefox but not opera06:03
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jribPFA: on opera the video fails you said right?06:04
PFAjrib: yeah06:04
jordanamicrawle, `sudo chown -R amicrawle  /home/amicrawler/windows` should do it06:04
jribPFA: yeah I have no idea why flash would work for a bit and just stop06:04
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PFAsigh okay, jrib thanks anyway06:05
THX-1138PFA - I don't enable jave. - sorry.06:05
DraccyI'm having trouble getting mkfs to work. How do I make the entire drive /dev/hdb1 with reiserfs using mkfs?06:05
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ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile06:05
w30Lane, I am running 64 bit Ubuntu; I don't know about Debian except that Ubuntu is Debian under the hood so what gives? There has to be a 64 bit debian somewhere06:05
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.06:05
jordanamicrawle, Did that command work?06:06
Draccyext3 is fine if you prefer.06:06
yokobryeap, when i try to boot from cd, many errors, in any OS06:06
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amicrawlechown: changing ownership of `/home/amicrawler/windows': Read-only file system06:06
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orbinDraccy: tried googling for tutes?  i usually just use gparted/qtparted06:06
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amicrawlestill a lock on it06:06
Draccyorbin, gparted doesn't seem up to the task of completely formatting the drive. It bitches.06:07
amicrawleit;s owned by root06:07
DraccyPardon my language if it's vulgar.06:07
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jordanamicrawle, any error when you ran the command?06:07
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amicrawleit;s owned by root06:07
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beefsprocketDraccy: you tried mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hdb106:08
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jordanamicrawle, Did you type sudo when you ran the command?06:08
beefsprocketDraccy: or mkreiserfs ?06:08
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jordanamicrawle, I guess I am too tired to be helping then because I thought for sure that would work.06:09
djuussOk problem: I cant use normal users. When i boot up, i get a terminal, not x. I can log in as a user, but users dont have permission to enter /home, not even if i sudo chown <user> home06:09
amicrawlehow do i get a  suoer user  gui  home06:09
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amicrawlehow do i get a  super user  gui  home06:09
Dr_willisamicrawle,  best to stickto the shell to do super-user-stuff06:09
jordanamicrawle, sudo nautilus, but you shouldn't use it often, it's not secure.06:09
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:09
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ChocoCider, wrong one06:10
ChocoCidi think06:10
ChocoCidah, no, it's on there06:10
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jirwinhey there. I just installed 6.06.1, and it would seem that after a short amount of time all of my usb devices, and have to restart to get them back06:10
ChocoCidat the bottom06:10
djuusschococid was that for me?06:10
jirwinanyone have any ideas on what it would be?06:10
ChocoCidthat's got graphical login06:10
ChocoCid(as root)06:10
djuusswell i have that, its just that users dont have permission to enter /home/ and can therefor not be used06:10
jordanChocoCid, I am not sure he neads that.06:10
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jordanamicrawle, try `sudo nautilus`06:11
djuussif i have a rj@mypc:~ $ cd /home/rj06:11
jordanamicrawle, Then you should be able to change the privaleges with the GUI.06:11
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djuussi get ' no permission'06:11
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ChocoCidactually that was for amicrawle heh06:12
beefsprocketdjuuss: take a look at /etc/group06:12
ChocoCidtwo similar questions at the same time :P06:12
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djuussouch.. quote from page: NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs, otherwise new login attempts may fail. If this happens and at login an error message reports: "Unable to read ICE authority file", log in using the failsafe terminal and execute the command below substituting user for your username.06:12
ChocoCidyeah, that's why you do gksudo gedit instead of sudo gedit06:12
w30Lane, go here for 64 bit Debian:http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/06:13
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godtviskendoes anyone know how to get user input in a batch program in DOS?06:13
djuusschococid, or sudo startx06:13
ltR20i want to make another partition, i cant select "new" in gparted06:13
ltR20everything is greyed + locks06:13
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ferossLarken: hey06:13
orbingodtvisken: kind of offtopic don't ya think? ;)06:13
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w30Lane Debian does not have an official stable release for 64 bit, I heard they were conservative now I know they are.06:14
Lanew30, thank you for your help.06:14
ferossLarken: so what are the options?06:14
jordanw30, but they will soon.06:14
djuussbut now i have a bigger problem, 'rj'  isnt allowed to enter '/home/rj'06:14
beefsprocketw30: 64bit etch is very stable06:14
Larkenfeross: In the other options? as in when I press f6?06:14
ferossLarken: yeah, look for video related options06:15
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jordanamicrawle, Are you still having problems?06:15
samueli'm looking for an msn compatible client that supports camera function. Any suggestions?06:15
w30jordan, I think stable to Debian is different than stable to other distros. like a rock I quess?06:15
orbinltR20: the partitions have to be unmounted to be manipulated.06:15
djuusssamuel, i hear gaim got webcam recently06:15
beefsprocketsamuel: kopete, amsn, gaim06:16
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LarkenFeross: It says Boot Options ._.size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw quiet splash06:16
jordanw30, Definately debian stable will run for 100 years strait if the hardware keeps up :)06:16
Alien|Freakhow do I check what files a certain package installed?06:16
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samueland voice mail to?06:16
jribAlien|Freak: dpkg -L package06:16
ferossLarken: nothing on video?06:16
Alien|Freakthx jrib06:17
beefsprocketAlien|Freak: try dpkg -L packagename06:17
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LarkenFeross: Thats all it says below the screen when I press f606:17
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tekian_Can someone pleaseeee help me figure out why my subwoofer doesn't work?06:18
beefsprocketdjuuss: how you making out there?06:18
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jirwindoes anyone have any idea why I am losing all of my USB devices?06:18
ColonelPanic001did they just suddenly seem like they came unplugged?06:18
ColonelPanic001as in, power light is off and everything?06:18
jirwinColonelPanic001: yah06:19
ColonelPanic001Same here.06:19
ColonelPanic001No idea.06:19
jirwinand now none of the ports work. I have to restart06:19
djuussbeefsprocket crutching my way through the molasses that is chmod06:19
jirwinwhat is your computer?06:19
ColonelPanic001I refuse to restart. heh06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about e1705 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
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tekian_!HDA Intel06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about HDA Intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
ferossLarken: what laptop is it? brand,model, etc06:20
jirwinwhat type of computer do you have ColonelPanic001 ?06:20
djuussbeefsprocket, ok im officially stuck.06:20
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems06:20
ColonelPanic001Uh, a mish-mash of part parts I bought06:20
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beefsprocketdjuuss: who owns your home directory?06:20
jirwinahh ok. So it isn't limited to my model of laptop...phew.06:20
LarkenCompaq Presario 1200 XL11006:20
AWOSDevPresario 1200?  the old one or the new one?06:21
djuussbeefsprocket err, i think root does06:21
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LarkenOld one06:21
AWOSDevthey had a 1200 that was a Pentium MMX 150MHz06:21
AWOSDevI have an LTE 515006:21
ellioTbjust ordered more ram to up this laptop to 512megs, this thing seems SOOOO slow06:21
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samuelhow can i install amsn in a terminal?06:21
ellioTbis there anything else that could make it so slow06:21
tekian_samuel:sudo apt-get install amsn06:21
ltR20orbin, how do i do that?06:22
beefsprocketdjuuss: ls -al /home to check, then use chown -R djuss:djuss /home/djuss (replace your nick with user name)06:22
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geoaxishello people06:22
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geoaxisi changed the positions of PCI cards on my desktop06:22
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geoaxisnow my ubuntu wont boot for some reason06:23
ellioTbapps just load slower than BALLLLSSS on mine06:23
beefsprockettried changing them back geoaxis?06:23
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tekian_Need Help: Subwoofer on Dell Inspiron e1705 refuses to work. Card: HDA Intel Mixer: SigmaTel STAC9200.06:23
geoaxisbeefsprocket:  no use06:23
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beefsprockettried recovery mode?06:23
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geoaxisdone that too06:24
djuussbeefsprocket, ok that didnt return any errors so sounds good. I'm logged into x as root now, so brb06:24
ferossLarken: looking here to see if anything will help http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/compaq.html06:24
geoaxisit gets stuck on  trying to find root06:24
beefsprocketyou're not booting off a pci ide card right?06:24
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Daughthello. I am trying to configure my printer. I go to system> admin>printing. My printer gets recognized and I go through the wizzard. when I am done there is no new printer added. is there something specific I should put in location?06:24
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Larkenoh thats a cool sight06:25
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tekian_Anyone? Subwoofer? Please? =(06:25
TweakIf anyone has a got a sec and can help me get apt to accept the 32 bit wine repositories on a amd-64 machine I would really appreciate it :D06:26
rockstar_Can anyone point me to a fglrx install howto that's worth a damn?  This is MUCH harder to install than it is on debian... I thought it was supposed to be backwards06:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:26
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rockstar_Tweak, you'll probably have to set up a 32-bit chroot06:26
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beefsprockettekian_: seen this? http://www.notebookforums.com/thread169312.html06:26
jirwinrockstar_: that one! yup :)06:27
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MrBIggZGreetings! I have two questions, fairly simple in nature.  The first is, is there a command when using apt-get to search for a package?  For example in Fedora you would use 'yum search <package name>'.  Second question is when you install a package via apt-get and using a GDM (I'm using KDE) shouldn't it automatically put an item in the appropriate menu slot?  I did an apt-get for firefox but it never put anything in the internet slot on 06:27
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odyssevsapt-cache search06:27
beefsprocketrockstar_, Tweak, no, you can use dpkg -i --force-all on the 32bit deb06:27
Halpohow does linux work in general....do different distributions modify the kernel when they build, or is there a standard kernel build that the distro's adopt?06:27
tekian_beefsproket: Yes, but I couldnt find anything on the subwoofer =(06:27
jribMrBIggZ: apt-cache search06:27
MrBIggZnoted .. one down one to go!06:27
beefsprockettekian_: seems like there might not be a driver for it?06:27
jribubotu: tell MrBIggZ about apt06:28
rockstar_beefsprocket, Do you really think it's a good idea to mix the packages like that?06:28
geoaxisbeefsprocket:  no i am booting off hda06:28
jribMrBIggZ: there is also #kubuntu, they may know more about how the kde menu acts06:28
MrBIggZthis is the first time i've used a debian driven system06:28
tekian_beefsprocket: In other words I'm basically screwed? =P I have perfect sound out the front 4 on the laptop. Its just the small little sub that's not activating06:28
rockstar_Halpo, a little bit of both.06:28
MrBIggZah .. ok! i'll head over there! thanks for part of the help though!!06:28
Rookie_sometimes it can take a min before the menu is updated ...06:28
rockstar_There is a "vanilla" kernel that everyone uses and builds off of.06:28
TweakAight cool, I will try that06:29
MrBIggZRookie .. its been 3 days06:29
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beefsprockettekian_: http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg03677.html -- maybe alsa from cvs?06:29
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ferossLarken: have you tried F4 on boot?06:29
beefsprocketrockstar_: I've done that on a 64bit dapper install, no problems, have to grab a few libraries, not much work though06:29
w30MrBIggZ, use the Applications, Accessories Ala-Carte Menu editor and add it yourself. The automatic adding is only done for the Applications Add Remove chooser06:29
xzkwhats the difference in the XChat that comes with Ubuntu, and the other XChat that you have to download ?06:29
tekian_beefsprocket: Read that too. was a little iffy when I saw it sort of dampens the quality of sound06:30
beefsprocketgeoaxis: try booting a livecd and chrooting into your installed system06:30
THX-1138chown command for owner:group with least permissions?06:30
rockstar_Hm, how does it deal with binary codecs in mplayer??06:30
ferossxzk: none06:30
Rookie_xzk - try it and find out ;)06:30
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xzkthey seem a little different06:30
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freakabcdhi all06:30
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THX-1138chown none  /path/to/file  ?06:30
beefsprockettekian_: I'd say try it (make debs so you can uninstall) -- let your ears be the judge06:30
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freakabcdwhat happened with the www.ubuntu.com site?06:30
xzkis XChat the best IRC Client for linux06:30
Larkenfeross- I was just messing with it, I don't know which I should try06:31
freakabcddid they change dns recently or something?06:31
ferossxzk: maybe the look but unless it's a different version probably not very important changes06:31
xzkwhat version do you guys use06:31
ferossLarken: give F4 a shot on boot.06:31
freakabcdi go to ubuntu.com and its some Bell Land Improvement, Inc. website!06:31
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freakabcdcan someone check if www.ubuntu.com goes to the ubuntu website?06:31
beefsprocketfreakabcd: try
Rookie_freakabcd - strange, because its right at my end ....06:32
LarkenFeross: My options are 640x480x16, 640x480x32, 800x600x16, 800x600x3206:32
ferossxzk: I irssi ;)06:32
beefsprocketfreakabcd: it does06:32
tekian_beefsprocket: I'll give it a try. Where on the site is the link to the patch? Cant seem to find it x_x06:32
beefsprocketfreakabcd: ping it06:32
xzkfeross: where can i get irssi, never heard of it?06:32
beefsprockettekian_: i'd say grab the cvs from the alsa site06:32
freakabcdwhat the heck:
ferossLarken: 640x480x1606:32
beefsprocketxzk: apt-get install irssi06:32
Rookie_apt-get install irssi06:32
freakabcdthats the same Bell Land Improvement, Inc website!06:32
jribfreakabcd: that ip takes me to ubuntu's site06:32
freakabcdi'll post a screenshot if required06:32
Rookie_bitchx is a good one too06:32
smoked1I like to use dreamweaver but I switched to Ubuntu. What can I install for Ubuntu that has the same split view as dreamweaver?06:33
freakabcdjrib, it doesn;t for me.. grr..06:33
freakabcdwhich is strange06:33
beefsprocketfreakabcd: does the name resolve to signey.ubuntu.com ?06:33
smoked1Thats what I really miss about it.06:33
freakabcdcos this is accessing by ip.06:33
freakabcdbeefsprocket, lemme check06:33
LarkenFeross: Ok, I'm going to give it a shot06:33
beefsprocketsmoked1: try quanta or bluefish, nvu is good too06:33
ferossxzk: it's a console chat program so you might not like it.06:33
smoked1beefsprocket: Thanks I will06:33
w30freakabcd, www.ubuntu.com works for me06:33
freakabcdbeefsprocket, signey.ubuntu.com.      1800    IN      A
beefsprocketquanta is great06:33
beefsprocketfreakabcd: that's totally bizarre06:34
freakabcdbeefsprocket, wait i'll post screenshot06:34
beefsprocketi don't doubt it06:34
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xzkfeross: console chat ?06:34
tekian_beefsprocket: I'm a bit new to all this, could you give a real quick walkthrough on compiling the driver from the cvs?06:34
freakabcdgoes to the same shitty Bell Land Improvement, Inc. website!!06:34
American-TechHaving trouble with sound on my new laptop.06:34
Rookie_du a tracepath06:35
jribfreakabcd: microsoft is taking over your connection!  I don't that's really strange06:35
beefsprocketfreakabcd: take a look at your /etc/hosts file06:35
beefsprockettekian_: one sec06:35
freakabcdthis is freaking me out man06:35
TooRightSorry to interrupt, but how do I register with freenode? I can't find anything in the motd, nor on the freenode site06:35
jribubotu: tell TooRight about register06:35
xzktooright: I'm wondering the same thing06:35
jribubotu: tell xzk about register06:35
freakabcdbeefsprocket, my etc/hosts file has nothing interesting06:35
TooRightlol xzk... thank you, now i don't feel so bad, lol :p06:35
LarkenFeross: hangs up in the same place when I did that06:36
ferossxzk: yeah, you open up a console/terminal window and run irssi. It's all in the terminal so you can't use the mouse to switch between chat rooms etc06:36
xzkjrib: ty06:36
freakabcdbeefsprocket, and accessing _with ip_ should do no resolving!06:36
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Rookie_freakabcd - do a tracepath06:36
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xzkfeross: ah.. yeah prob not my cup of tea, i'm not good at using the linux terminal/console commands06:36
jordanubotu: tell jordan about register06:36
xzktest test06:37
beefsprockettekian_: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=2746406:37
beefsprockettekian_: then you want to use make & checkinstall06:37
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freakabcdRookie_, umm.. tracepath shows no reply after 16 hops!06:37
beefsprockettekian_: have you built packages from source before?06:37
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freakabcdRookie_, i'll paste on a pastesite06:38
jordanubotu: tell jordan about register06:38
ferossxzk: sure, it takes a bit to get used to but I like that I have maximum screen space for the chat screen instead of panels and tabs all over the place. Just different tastes06:38
xzkhow do i change the color of my own text in XChat.. i changed the background to black and the text to white.. so now it shows everybodys white text on black background.. but my text is dark gray, cant figure it out06:38
tekian_beefsprocket: Yes, I just always found it a bit messy sometimes =P. Tend to always look for deb packages :)06:38
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:38
ferossLarken: hmm still06:38
beefsprockettekian_: well, checkinstall will make .deb files for you when you run it06:38
freakabcdok, what the heck is going on.06:38
freakabcdany website i go to is going to this stupid bell land improvement thingy!06:39
Rookie_smurfattack ;) ?06:39
freakabcdeven google.com06:39
freakabcdbut everything resolves perfectly to the right ip!06:39
jribfreakabcd: what isp?06:39
freakabcdjrib, dude. i'm at uni!!06:39
freakabcdand the next machine to me (my desktop) works fine!06:39
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beefsprocketfreakabcd: how about checking the output of route?06:40
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xzkyay i got it06:40
freakabcdbeefsprocket, i've done a network restart already06:40
Larkenfeross- you think I should try another form of linux? that kinda sucks though, eh?06:40
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xzkhi newbi306:40
jordanfreakabcd, Try typing the ip adress as the URL.06:40
freakabcdeverything resolves. i even did a synaptic update and upgrade for a few packages just now!06:41
tekian_beefsprocket: What am I looking for in the cvs tree?06:41
BluRwhy is it that I can't echo the environment variables that are set in /etc/environment until I do ". /etc/environment"06:41
freakabcdjordan, same effect06:41
newbi3how can i burn an iso image?!06:41
Rookie_858 users - say hi to newbi306:41
beefsprocketfreakabcd: how about using the machine's cable next to you?06:41
jordanWhat about wget?06:41
beefsprockettekian_: I think you just want alsa for "modulename"06:41
freakabcdbeefsprocket, err.. i don;t think thats going to matter06:41
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jribnewbi3: right click, write to disc06:42
jordanfreakabcd, Does wget always download the same file?06:42
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ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows06:43
MrKeunerhi, which utility was it that checks md5sums of binaries in a package. (Not for the package as a whole)06:43
freakabcdmy firefox is borked somehow!06:43
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ferossLarken: The second option a Safe Graphics Mode?06:43
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xzkyeah, I definately like XChat more then Konversation06:43
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freakabcdjust tried from kinks and it works perfectly..06:43
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freakabcdman what the heck happened to my firefox :(06:44
jordanfreakabcd, Are you using bon echo?06:44
xzkbon echo = poopcrap06:44
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LarkenFeross- Thats what i'm trying now06:44
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freakabcdbon echo? whatever the heck is that06:44
jordanxzk, Why do you say that?06:44
jldugger__its the beta of firefox 206:44
LarkenFeross- nope, hung up in the same place06:44
jldugger__its in edgy06:44
tekian_beefsprocket: I'm so lost =(06:44
xzkthe bon echo i used for winxp always crashed06:45
freakabcdthen no. i'm using the regular firefox06:45
American-TechHi I have a gateway mx6448 laptop and I am having trouble with sound. I need hellp finding and installing drivers06:45
jordanfreakabcd, Try downloading a file with Firefox maybe?06:45
xzkjordan: i would have like 10 tabs open using bon echo on winxp,  and the browser would crash and I'd lose all my tabs and everything I was doing06:45
freakabcdjordan, lemme just update firefox. there was an update in synaptic..06:46
jordanxzk, Thats why it's still beta :)06:46
freakabcdhopefully that fixes the problem06:46
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jordanfreakabcd, But were is the fun in that ;)06:47
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xzkYou guys ever had a problem with your mouse where it will double click everything? I may have dropped it or something... I'm not sure.. but it always double clicks.. well I should say Most of the time it does bc I've kind of learned how to make it single click sometimes.. but its extemely frustrating06:47
sproingietime to buy a new mouse06:48
freakabcdin synaptic, how do i check which repo a package comes from?06:48
freakabcdright-click properties?06:48
jribxzk: yes, I bought a new mouse06:48
jordanxzy, Even though it is a hardware problem ( most likely ) you may be able to fix it using software debouncing.06:48
ferossLarken: there's probably a way to start the boot cd without X but I think if the boot CD doesn't detect your screen it's going to be a bit of a hassle to get it setup. It's probably some issue with the video card.06:48
freakabcdit doesn;t show the actual repo the package is from06:48
jribxzk: actually, what I did for a while was use middle click as left click, but you won't enjoy that for too long06:49
xzkjrib: holy crap thats a great idea06:49
xzkmouses are expensive!06:49
xzk$40+ dollars06:49
Joker... mouses?06:49
freakabcderr.. still no vim7 in the repo?06:49
xzkits not an animal.. do u spell it mice ?06:49
LarkenFeross: hm. alright, thanks for the effort06:50
jribfreakabcd: it's in edgy06:50
Dr_willis$40 is for an ok Mouse.:P06:50
JokerAnyway, I'll just ask my question and skiddadle06:50
Dr_willisI like my mx51806:50
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jordanLarken, What is your problem? ( I am too lazy to search through conversations but I think I might be able to help )06:50
ferossLarken: sure06:50
xzki saw a $100+ mouse on newegg.. some kind of Laser dealiemajig06:50
JokerWhat do all of that 'hda' 'hdb' 'hdc' and the like mean?06:50
freakabcdjrib, and i can;t install that deb on dapper can i? without updating a bunch of other stuff06:50
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freakabcdyou guys release too soon.06:51
freakabcdi think edgy is coming up too fast06:51
jldugger6.06 is supported for a long time, hence LTS06:51
jribfreakabcd: well you could try to rebuild it on dapper.  I think seveas' repos has packages for vim7 on dapper.  But edgy will be out by the end of the month if you want to just wait06:51
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jlduggerfreakabcd, you dont have to migrate to edgy06:51
freakabcdjrib, end of this month?06:51
freakabcdoh man.06:51
jribfreakabcd: release every 6 months06:51
freakabcdjldugger, but for new packages? i have to update06:51
jlduggerwell wtf06:51
gr8rahul i am trying to compile "file " package .. but it gives me the error "file: could not find any magic files!"06:51
freakabcdunless i like having a hybrid and soon to be borked system06:52
jlduggeryou want new packages, but not as often?06:52
unfknblvblhaha magic files06:52
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jlduggeralthough, you do have a point, edgy will be released less than six months after dapper.06:52
adEewhat does this mean:06:52
jlduggerbut dapper was just pushed back06:52
adEeThe path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does06:52
adEenot contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected.  This can happen if the06:52
adEekernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command06:52
adEein your kernel directory.  In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel.06:52
adEemy bad06:53
freakabcdjldugger, not that. could you give me a reason for not having a vim7 package in dapper repo?06:53
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freakabcdtheres lots of other stuff thats being updated in the repo for dapper. i see lots and lots of updates for gnome stuff. why not a package for vim7?06:53
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jordanfreakabcd, Did you check backports?06:53
JokerWhat do all of that 'hda' 'hdb' 'hdc' and the like mean?06:53
xzkubuntu preinstalled software like ekiga softphone that I *don't think* I want? I'm not sure how to get rid of it06:54
Dr_willisadEe,  its looking for stuff in /usr/src/linux  which you dont have.. you may need to use 'ln -s' to  link linux to your klernel soucre dir.06:54
jlduggeri dont see gnome 2.16 in backports06:54
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SEWilcoI can't get any output from pdfimages.  Xpdf runs OK.  Suggestions?  I'm not finding PBM/PNM utilities in my system nor in packages.06:54
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freakabcdbah.. all minor, not major version number..06:54
adEeDr_willis: what do you mean? im not used to ln'ing stuff06:54
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freakabcdanyway, i believe i feel this because of what you pointed out: edgy is < 6 away from dapper06:55
Madpilotjldugger, it probably won't be - too large, too many depends, etc06:55
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jlduggerMadpilot, that was my point, i believe06:55
freakabcderr.. and vim7?06:55
freakabcdtoo large and too many deps? lol06:55
jlduggerpresumably nobody's willing to backport it06:55
Dr_willisadEe,  what are you trying to compile anyway?06:56
freakabcdanyway, i'll stop with this package business now.06:56
adEeDr_willis: i do have "/usr/src/linux"06:56
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freakabcdand start with another package business :)06:56
adEeDr_willis: vmware06:56
adEeDr_willis: vmware player06:56
Dr_willisls -l linux06:56
Dr_willislrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 28 2006-09-23 20:10 linux -> linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686/06:56
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freakabcdwhy aren't you guys considering binary deltas for upgrades even in edgy?06:56
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Dr_willisadEe,   had to make a soft link from my runnign kernel source dir TO the linux dir..  like that shows in ls -l linux06:56
jordanadEe, You know vmware is in the repos right?06:56
Dr_willisadEe,  for vmware server to install properly06:56
adEeDr_willis: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root src 23 2006-10-01 04:01 linux -> /usr/src/linux-
freakabcdi know its too late. but waay back when someone made a sample implementation that worked, you guys just said: its not high priority06:57
Dr_willisvmware PLAYER is in the repos.. not the server06:57
Dr_willisadEe,  now do a 'uname -a' and see what kernel ya got.06:57
crimsunfreakabcd: because it isn't. It's Edgy+1 material.06:57
Dr_willis!info vmware06:57
cratukiI've got a new machine to install linux on. I wanted to have it use software raid across that board. I have created an image of 6.06 alt. Is this the best starting point for such a setup?06:57
ubotuPackage vmware does not exist in any distro I know06:57
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Dr_willis!info vmware-server06:57
ubotuPackage vmware-server does not exist in any distro I know06:57
adEeDr_willis: i got 2.6.1806:57
jldugger!info vmware-player06:57
ubotuvmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)06:57
tjshi, lets suppose I'm a hacker for a startup who is also the defacto sys admin, lets suppose we have our primary dns/web/mail server (rather critical) running hoary for ages, suppose someone here decides to upgrade it from hoary->dapper directly without telling me, and now its fucked06:57
Dr_willisadEe,  your linux link is wrong then.. it needs to point to the current runnignkernel06:58
adEeDr_willis: i know, i noticed that06:58
Madpilottjs, first, arrange to get that someone fired.06:58
adEeDr_willis: how do i do it then?06:58
Dr_willisadEe,  Good man! :)06:58
tjsthe wiki suggests hoary->dapper is very bad, dont do it, and suggests hoary->breezy->dapper06:58
Dr_willisremove the link. make a new one with ln -s06:58
Madpilottjs, the wiki is right06:58
jordanDr_willis, Sorry, I am going to go to sleep now before I accidently tell someone to rm -r their root ;) ( didn't give the full command just in case ;) )06:58
SEWilcoProblem: "pdfimages" is doing nothing.  And I'd like the PBM/PNM conversion tools but can't find a package with them (and no "pbm" in /usr/lib/*).06:58
adEeDr_willis: can you do it with me step by step06:58
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Dr_willis1) remove the linux link.06:59
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Dr_willis2) use ln -s to make a new link. :P06:59
tjsMadpilot, so hoary->dapper is totally never going to work06:59
djuussnot if you wanna boot your system afterwards06:59
freakabcdtjs, haha..06:59
adEeDr_willis: foreal, how do you remove its current link?06:59
tjsat this point should I try to do an upgrade to breezy?06:59
ChocoCidso what's up with edgy not letting alt-leftarrow and alt-rightarrow go forward and backwards in firefox/bon echo?06:59
Dr_willisadEe,  with 'rm' like you remove eerything else.06:59
xzkI just removed ekiga softphone from my computer.. and while it was doing that it also removed "ubuntu desktop"... is that bad ?06:59
tjsor should I pull off the data and rebuild the machine?06:59
Madpilottjs, at this point, your best bet might just be a total reinstall...06:59
freakabcdtjs, the distro-updates i think sorta started working properly from breezy onwards.07:00
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tjsI hate my life07:00
freakabcdtjs, i'm just hoping i won;t have problems dapper->edgy07:00
DBOtjs, watch the swearing please07:00
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deltabChocoCid: shortcut bound to something else?07:00
tjsDBO: sorry07:00
ChocoCider, i dunno, this is a default install atm07:00
adEeDr_willis: which one do you want me to remove, the dir 'linux' or ?07:00
jlduggerthis install is on dapper, and i started with either hoary or warty (i cant remember)07:00
aeroSoulxzk: if you dont need a desktop its ok =)07:00
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djuussHey my permissions are skewed. If i make a new user and try to log in, it says ' your home folder is listed as /home/user, but it appears not to exist'07:01
MadpilotHoary->Breezy worked perfectly for me; Breezy->Dapper blew up. I'm nervous about Dapper->Edgy now, myself ;)07:01
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DBOMadpilot, eh I got this box to edgy all the way from sarge07:01
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DBOMadpilot, it can be done =)07:01
xzkaeroSoul: did i mess up my ubuntu?07:01
Lam_my totem-gstreamer lags when i try to play back h264 encodes from an mkv container, but the same file doesn't lag when i play it on mplayer07:01
Dr_willisadEe,  linux is not a directroy its a link TO the actual kernel source directory07:01
aeroSoulxzk: yes. use apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to fix it07:02
Dr_willisadEe,  it needs to be removed and remade to point to the right place07:02
SEWilcoAm I hearing that autoupdates aren't keeping my system current?  How can I know if I've been updated to the current stable version?07:02
xzkok cool07:02
DBOxzk, you too, less on the swearing please07:02
adEeDr_willis: so just: rm linux07:02
raknamhow do i access my ubuntu machine's vnc server from windows? just download a vnc viewer?07:02
adEein /usr/src dir?07:02
Dr_willisyes... try it and see07:02
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MadpilotSEWilco, the auto-updates should be working just fine. Current stable is still Dapper (6.06.1)07:02
mortal5just out of curiosity, what is the minimal ubuntu server install?07:02
xzkDBO: sorry, I accidently uninstalled my Ubunto Desktop :(07:02
mortal5how big07:02
Dr_willisraknam,  i like 'ultravncserver/viewer'07:02
djuussmortal5 350mb07:02
DBOxzk, no big deal, just reinstall it =P  (you mean the meta-package right?)07:03
SEWilcoOK, so how do I know this thing I'm running is called Dapper?07:03
raknamdr_willis, ubuntu already has a vnc server installed though right?07:03
raknami mean the standard installation07:03
adEeDr_willis: ok, its removed, how do you relink it now07:03
cafuegoSEWilco: Run 'lsb_release -a'07:03
adEewith ln -s07:03
Dr_willisraknam,  it has a 'share the current running desktop' kind of vnc server.. I normally install vnc4server07:03
brosnanChocoCid: works for me on a mozilla build of firefox 207:03
xzkDBO: no, I uninstalled ekigo softphone - in the synaptics deal.. and when it was uninstalled it.. it said removing "ubuntu desktop" too :(07:03
Dr_willisln -s SOMTHING SOMTHING else07:03
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Dr_willisman ln :) i always get it back2ards07:03
jlduggerChocoCid, ive noticed something similar07:03
DBOxzk, oh yeah, just leave ekiga installed07:04
mortal5djuuss, ty good to know07:04
jlduggeronly one of the alt buttons works07:04
SEWilcoDapper.  OK.  Thanks.07:04
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ChocoCiddoesn't matter for me :(07:04
xzkDBO: I dont like it or use it07:04
raknamdr_willis, will that be available in the repositories or should i go download it?07:04
ChocoCidalso, why'd they switch from 4 workspaces to 2 from dapper > edgy?07:04
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djuussNooooo i'm stuck >.<07:04
Dr_willisraknam,  its in the repos.07:04
Dr_willis!info vnc4server07:04
xzkaeroSoul: it's not working07:04
ubotuvnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB07:04
DBOxzk, then dont use it, its really just best to leave it there07:04
raknamnice, thanks dr_willis07:05
SEWilcoNo suggestions why "pdfimages" doesn't work, nor what package has PBM/PNM image conversion tools?07:05
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xzkDBO: It's not working help07:05
AtKaaZhi, is there a way to see all hard links' paths of a given filename ? ie. if a file had 5 hard links can one see them all exactly where there are?07:05
MadpilotChocoCid, did they? That's uncool, but I guess it confuses some people... (I use 8 virtual desktops myself...)07:05
Dr_willisraknam,  the tightvncserver seems to have some bugs in it.07:05
MrKeunerhi, which utility was it that checks md5sums of binaries in a package. (Not for the package as a whole)07:05
DBOxzk, what isnt working?07:05
xzkcan I PM it to you07:05
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djuussbasically, users cant see or arent allowed to enter /home07:05
ChocoCidMadpilot, yeah, i see 2 here on a default (as of yet) install07:05
DBOxzk, if you have identified with nickserv you can07:05
eclipse75quick question, can i make a partition for the entire home directory? or will this interfere with things07:05
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ChocoCidwondering how to get around that07:05
ChocoCidalso, now my left/right arrows aren't even moving in text in xchat... let me test that in gedit07:06
MadpilotChocoCid, right-click on the desktop switcher thing, choose Properties, set the number of desktops you want07:06
djuusseclipse75: thats a good idea07:06
ChocoCidyeah, left/right arrows aren't working at all07:06
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Dr_williseveryone needs 100000 desktops!07:06
ChocoCidexcept, they can move horizontal scrollbars07:06
ChocoCidso... wtf :\07:06
eclipse75so it wont interfere with anything as long as its in the fstab?07:06
brosnanright click on the desktop icons -> properties07:06
lumgwadahello I've had problems with wireless since upgrading from breezy to dapper... I notice the wireless card got changed on my system from wlan0 to eth0. Is there a specific how to fix for this scenario at all? cheers07:06
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ChocoCidmeh, i'll restart overnight and fiddle with stuff tomorrow :P07:07
djuusseclipse75 are you partioning now? or is this on a running system07:07
eclipse75im running the ubuntu live cd07:07
eclipse75i have slack installed but going to give ubuntu a try07:07
eclipse75i know my way around linux, just never tried this07:08
djuussthen during installation you get a partitioning dialog, its pretty self-explanatory07:08
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:08
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eclipse75alright then ill just cp over my entire home directory :)07:08
jlduggerif youve managed to survive slack, the advanced graphical manager should be doable07:08
djuussso yes, you can choose to put /home on its own partition during installation without even having to touch the fstab07:08
ChocoCidyay apt :)07:08
ChocoCid<3 apt07:09
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ArrenLexapt ftw.07:09
ChocoCid<3 the graphical version too, i just installed like 70 programs at once07:09
adEeDr_willis: drwxr-sr-x   2 root       src            4096 2006-10-05 01:06 linux07:09
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adEeDr_willis: it didn't link07:09
jlduggeri really don't like synaptic yet07:09
ArrenLexDr_willis? Are you here AGAIN? xD Honestly!07:09
eclipse75well thanks djuuss07:09
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Dr_willisya did it wrong then.. cd to the /usr/src  dir and use      ln -s  linux linux_whatever-the-name-of-your-soruce-dir-is07:10
djuusspfff i think its time for a reinstal07:10
Dr_willisadEe,  or i MAY have that backwards.. I always get it backwards.. so i reverse the arguments.. and end up confusign myself07:10
ChocoCidreinstalling :)07:10