[12:01] <anon32> pike_, err...
[12:01] <anon32> I have dialup so I don't want to remove anything I'll miss
[12:01] <fredrik> hi can any one tell me if google mail will work with Evolution e-mail
[12:01] <Tokenbad> THX-1138, no...it was only 1 partition before...then wanted to add another from the free space on the one..
[12:01] <Tokenbad> I have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is
[12:02] <blind> Tokenbad: the drive, or the partition?
[12:02] <collier_> kitche: can u help?
[12:02] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25695/
[12:02] <anon32> fredrik, yes, you need to enable pop3 in your gmail account though
[12:02] <Paddy_EIRE> is it possible for "firestarter" to start upon logging in minimised to the tray?
[12:02] <ninja_monkey> hello people, I was in here not to long ago asking about issues with resolution. Problem was that I got a link to a FAQ page with resolution troubleshooting, but I can't find it on my own. Could you supply it again please? (I was on my win installation when I got the URL)
[12:02] <ompaul> Tokenbad, what does sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd(a??)
[12:02] <kitche> collier_: well I can try but it seems like you have to force rageircd to uninstall did you try the dpkg way o fremoving packages
[12:02] <fredrik> anon32, thanks
[12:03] <anon32> oh there we go, it was gnome-volume-properties
[12:03] <THX-1138> Yes, Then 30gigs was unavailable for a new format. - no warings about the number of promarary partitions?
[12:03] <collier_> kitche: nope how do you do that?
[12:03] <ninja_monkey> resolution > ninja_monkey
[12:03] <ninja_monkey> dammit!
[12:03] <blind> lol ninja_monkey
[12:03] <ninja_monkey> :)
[12:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !resolution
[12:03] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:03] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[12:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:03] <ninja_monkey> ah, thanks.
[12:03] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - s/promarary/primary/g
[12:04] <Clawfinger> Hello, does anybody know if it is possible to have two programs running that use audio and both of them playback?
[12:04] <kitche> collier_: man dpkg should tell you know to remove packages since I m not familiar with dpkg myself
[12:04] <blind> !tell Clawfinger about alsa
[12:05] <collier_> dpkg -r|--remove | -P|--purge rangeircd
[12:05] <collier_> like that?
[12:05] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: Very curiously, that also seems to fail. :-(
[12:05] <anon32> Clawfinger, in Windows, that causes both to play audio half the time... dunno what ALSA will do though
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Is it possible for "firestarter" to start upon logging in minimised to the tray?
[12:05] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: if it helps any, I'm on AMD64
[12:05] <kitche> yep that's it collier_ do a purge
[12:06] <Rahsputin> !dvb-t
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: you dont really need firestarter to run unless you need to change firewall rules
[12:06] <collier_> kitche: so i type dpkg -p rangeircd?
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> pike_: oh
[12:06] <kitche> collier_: yep
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> pike_: i suppose its just a frontend silly question
[12:06] <Rahsputin> hi! is there a list on usb dvb-t devices for ubuntu ?
[12:06] <mr> hello
[12:07] <anon32> which you need to do if you want your IRC program to auth, if you run BT, etc..
[12:07] <Rahsputin> hello
[12:07] <THX-1138> Paddy_EIRE - you might add it to .gnomerc in your homedirectory.(surprised it doesn't already)  Unfortuneatly i haven't tried this.
[12:07] <pike_> Paddy_EIRE: sudo iptables -L will list the rules as long as you dont have inbound outbound and forward as just accept should be in good shape
[12:07] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: Quite oddly, however, I am able to wget the files which apt-get fails to get
[12:07] <collier_> kitche: it does not remove it when I type that
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> THX-1138: what is "gnomerc" for anyway
[12:08] <kitche> collier_: it just purges it try using apt-get now
[12:08] <TriGz> Meow! hello guys :D
[12:08] <TriGz> t'has been a long time ;o
[12:08] <collier_> kitche: sudo apt-get rageircd
[12:08] <THX-1138> {Paddy_EIRE - .gnomerc will allow you to start applications on start up. see also .xinitrc
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> k, thx
[12:08] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: that is odd. you might ask out loud if AMD64 need to use special repositories.
[12:09] <kitche> collier-: sudo apt-get remove rageircd and see if it outputs the error
[12:09] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ?  I use Ubuntu and my cable modem don't work since installation.
[12:09] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: I wondered about that too, google time. ty so far, if I get really stuck this will turn into a forum post.
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> THX-1138: is there anyway I can have the Gconfig-editor gui icon via apt-get
[12:09] <pike_> MissLady: you use a router or just direct to modem?
[12:09] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: good luck.
[12:10] <collier_> kitche: what linux do u use?
[12:10] <fredrik> anon32, i get an error message saying it is not authenticated, any idear
[12:10] <MissLady> pike_: direct to modem
[12:10] <kitche> collier_: I run my own version of slackware
[12:10] <pike_> MissLady: same computer and network card as before?  just new operating system?
[12:10] <THX-1138> Paddy_EIRE - Have an icon for gconf-editor on your desktop? create a launcher by right clicking on the desktop.
[12:10] <anon32> fredrik, what was your question again? was it pop3 and gmail?
[12:10] <rogelio> Holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:10] <MissLady> pike_ yes
[12:10] <mr_ewe> hi everyone, im really new to linux is there anyone that would chat with me for a while and help me figure some stuff out?
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[12:11] <fredrik> yes
[12:11] <collier_> kitche: oh. It still wont remove.
[12:11] <fredrik> and i enabled it in google
[12:11] <rogelio> alguien de Venezuela???
[12:11] <THX-1138> !es
[12:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:11] <anon32> fredrik, read gmail's faq about pop3
[12:11] <pike_> MissLady: ifconfig shows the ethernet device as eth0 and then a loopback lo ?
[12:12] <collier_> kitche: whats the sudo command to delete a folder?
[12:12] <fredrik> ok
[12:12] <anon32> you need SSL for pop3 and TLS for smtp
[12:12] <MissLady> pike_: i'm connected with usb cable
[12:12] <dagi3d> hi
[12:12] <TriGz> Don't suppose anyone here plays WorldOfWarcraft on *nix do they? :o
[12:12] <pike_> MissLady: ah
[12:12] <kitche> collier_: sudo rmdir <folder> be careful with that command
[12:12] <dagi3d> I have just upgraded to edgy and cannot login using gdm
[12:12] <collier_> sudo rmdir /etc/rageircd/
[12:12] <THX-1138> TriGz - It's you! - hunting for you all over Azeroth.
[12:12] <collier_> kitche: sudo rmdir /etc/rageircd/ right? just to make sure
[12:12] <dagi3d> is this a reported bug? it's second computer where it happens
[12:12] <pike_> MissLady: as a rule usb doesnt offer as good performance anyway.  you have no ethernet cable?
[12:12] <Caplain> TriGz: #winehq
[12:13] <BoyBlunder> can anyone help me with a quick script to disable/enable XGL/compiz (nvidia)?
[12:13] <kitche> collier_: yep but I would cd into /etc then do sudo rmdir rageircd to be safe
[12:13] <ninja_monkey> How can I check what driver my ubuntu amd64 installation uses?
[12:13] <pike_> MissLady: you could try lsusb and make sure its showing up at least
[12:13] <MissLady> pike_: i cannot use ethernet
[12:13] <xopher> ninja_monkey, if you mean the gfxcard driver, check you xorg.conf
[12:13] <collier_> collier@collier-desktop:/etc$ sudo rmdir rageircd
[12:13] <collier_> rmdir: rageircd: Directory not empty
[12:13] <THX-1138> TriGz - WINE is good but can i win you over to the "dark side"? try Cedega.
[12:14] <Dr_willis> Ive given up on cedega...
[12:14] <Dr_willis> and games in general. :)
[12:14] <kromel> MissLady, may I send you a private message?
[12:14] <Rasta> give up emulation
[12:14] <whyameye> when I first upgraded to Dapper from Breezy, ubuntu found a driver other than ndiswrapper for my broadcom BCM4306. Something went wrong with networking in general a few weeks later and in an effort to get up and running quickly I went back to ndiswrapper, which is as buggy as ever. How can I track back hour ubuntu got my broadcom going w/out ndiswrapper?
[12:14] <Rasta> use a virtual machine
[12:14] <pike_> MissLady: i really dont have experience though with comp --> usb --> cablemodem though
[12:15] <DivineAnt>  colier: use rm -r rmdir is only for empty directories
[12:15] <MissLady> pike_: i installed usbnet module and when lsmod i see it
[12:15] <collier_> ok
[12:15] <MissLady> pike_: ok np :)
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Which web site design program would you recommend for a newbie web designer using ubuntu
[12:15] <whyameye> Paddy_EIRE: nvu?
[12:15] <cyberfall> anyone know much about svn
[12:16] <collier_> rm: remove write-protected regular file `rageircd/rageircd.conf'? y
[12:16] <collier_> rm: cannot remove `rageircd/rageircd.conf': Permission denied
[12:16] <Steil> Does setting a password on an ODT file just lock it, or does it encrypt it as well?
[12:16] <pike_> MissLady: get a 802.11 card and leech of your neighbors :)
[12:16] <Flannel> cyberfall: what do you need to know about svn?
[12:16] <whyameye> cyberfall: what do you need to know? It's called subversion in the repos...
[12:16] <cyberfall> and sourceforge
[12:16] <TriGz> THX-1138, hey again dude.. Yea i run it through wine.. BUT i cant loot mobs i kill.. or talk to any npc's... below everyone is like..  a black square.. and i just cant talk/loot :(
[12:16] <MissLady> kromel: if it'S about my problem with usb modem cable it's ok... if not ... no thx ;p
[12:16] <Paddy_EIRE> whyameye: I will get this and perhaps a second for opinions sake what else
[12:16] <cyberfall> well  svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai ufoai it say it dont like the link
[12:16] <anon32> Paddy_EIRE, gedit
[12:16] <MissLady> pike_: isn't for that
[12:16] <Paddy_EIRE> anon32: someone that isnt really versed in raw html
[12:17] <POVaddct> g'nite
[12:17] <Tokenbad> ompaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25698/
[12:17] <cyberfall> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai'
[12:17] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: Apparently the main ubuntu repository should suffice, because it has all the arches respective packages listed in the same file (this file corresponds to a specific package like "mplayer" etc)
[12:17] <MissLady> pike_: my ethernet chips is dead
[12:17] <BoyBlunder> can anyone help me with a quick script to disable/enable XGL/compiz (nvidia)? I'm trying to get WoW to work under Wine and it's telling me it can't start my 3d accelerator.
[12:17] <Tokenbad> THX-1138, I don't understand what that means
[12:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Is "Quanta Plus" any good
[12:17] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: so now I'm really confused, i guess it turns into a forum post now
[12:17] <ladydoor> swashbucklinstev: ah. then there's probably some weird networking thing going on.
[12:17] <ninja_monkey> If I want to change drivers (my ubuntu installation uses vesa drivers) to nvidia, what should I change the driver to?
[12:17] <Flannel> cyberfall: there's a few more directories under that, check it out in a webbrowser
[12:17] <DivineAnt> collier: you still need sudo - and a dangeruos side note wich can get you into a lot of trouble: rm -rf to get rid of "do you want to remove ..."
[12:17] <swashbucklinstev> ladydoor: indeed
[12:17] <Tokenbad> I have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is  This is what fdisk -l /dev/hd
[12:17] <Tokenbad> d says:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25698/
[12:17] <cyberfall> umm how
[12:18] <THX-1138> TriGz - hm - could be a teeny-weeny problem eh? - grin.   Cedega is stable. run it with a low color depth and no "UI Scale" font corruption.
[12:18] <Flannel> cyberfall: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai in a web browser
[12:18] <btdown> Hey could someone pastbin me their /etc/hosts file (or a good sample one) ? I hosed mine up
[12:19] <cyberfall> i try that earlyer and got an error
[12:19] <cyberfall> wtf
[12:19] <yellow> hey guys, is there a way to open a terminal where you are while browsing file  ?
[12:19] <TriGz> THX-1138 - dont you have to pay for Cedega? :(
[12:19] <Rahsputin> is there a list on usb dvb-t devices for ubuntu ?
[12:19] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - I can only guess you must already know. gparted was confused by file information in the ntfs partition due maybe file fragmentation. defrag and checkdisk with ntfs
[12:20] <cyberfall>  svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/trunk/
[12:20] <Rahsputin> i cannot get my fujitsu siemens usb dvb-t to run
[12:20] <cyberfall> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/trunk'
[12:20] <wwwdotcom-mac> Hello, I am trying to install a missing plugin in firefox, how do I do this using the ubuntu linux?
[12:20] <cyberfall> why is it sayin that
[12:20] <necudeco> holas
[12:20] <ninja_monkey> Is there any help files regarding Ubuntu not detecting my graficsdrivers?
[12:20] <Flannel> yellow: yeah, there's even a package to add it... nautilus-open-terminal is the package name
[12:20] <^Ocean^> anyone have a dos 6.22 Boot disk image i can use to burn onto a CDrom
[12:21] <THX-1138> TrigGz - Yes, $5 a month. about the cost of a starbucks latte. I said darkside because i believe they have used technologies not in spirit with GNU.
[12:21] <Dr_willis> ^Ocean^,  what are you trying to do?
[12:21] <Flannel> cyberfall: you're missing a ufoai, there's two folders of it
[12:21] <yellow> Flannel:  thanks man
[12:21] <cyberfall> umm
[12:21] <Flannel> cyberfall: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk/
[12:21] <^Ocean^> Dr_willis: get an old 486 running with now floppy drive lol... and im tryin to use k3b to burn the cd, but the bootdisk.img i found dont seem to be recconized as a proper boot image file...
[12:21] <pestilence> i thought i had setup a raid1 on my machine, but it seems one of the drives didn't get setup properly -- it is missing the raid superblock...does anyone know how i can add it (without destroying the data on the other drive)
[12:21] <Rahsputin> wwwdotcom-mac   synaptic --- mozilla plugin
[12:22] <TriGz> THX-1138 - isn't there like.. a free version but its not sa good or something
[12:22] <Rahsputin> search
[12:22] <Dr_willis> ^Ocean^,  check out the freedos project
[12:22] <Rahsputin> i would do it so
[12:22] <THX-1138> Tokenbad. It sucks. But your drive is okay.
[12:22] <Dr_willis> ^Ocean^,  of course it the thing wont boot off the cdrom.. well you may be stuck.. or do a network boot
[12:22] <wwwdotcom-mac> Rahsputin, sorry, I do not know what that means
[12:23] <THX-1138> TriGz - Yes, Compile from CVS source repository. - read mixed results on that. - 5 bucks is easier.
[12:23] <^Ocean^> no it boots off cdrom just fine ;) im sure of that
[12:23] <Dr_willis> ^Ocean^,  put PUPPYLINUX on that thang!
[12:23] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:23] <TriGz> THX-1138 - 5 bucks a month, + the 15 i pay for wow.. it all adds up :P
[12:23] <fredrik> anon32, read it but could not figure out, keep n getting an error message and also prompt for a password
[12:23] <necudeco> alguien ha instaldo una hp proliant
[12:23] <necudeco> ?
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Anyone know of a good populated IRC chan/server that has an active web designers community possible for newbies also... #nvu is dead
[12:23] <Flannel> !es
[12:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:23] <Rahsputin> run synaptic  and search for mozilla plugin
[12:23] <Yono> Does anyone know about setting up dual monitors with twinview?
[12:23] <Flannel> Paddy_EIRE: try #css or #html or #webdev (although #webdev is rather dead)
[12:24] <Yono> because I could use some help
[12:24] <wwwdotcom-mac> Rahsputin, and how do I do that?
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[12:24] <THX-1138> TriGz - True enough +25 a month for Ubuntu. dunno. - I like the ease of use.
[12:24] <gtl> is there any channel for ubuntu x86_64 support?
[12:24] <pike_> Yono: fairly easy depending on card
[12:24] <Rahsputin> open terminal $ sudo synaptic
[12:24] <Tokenbad> THX-1138, then why is it saying in gparted that my drive is only 47 gigs...when it should be 80
[12:24] <pike_> Yono: card?
[12:24] <TriGz> I prefer cost :P
[12:24] <Flannel> Rahsputin: that's asking for trouble.  gksudo synaptic
[12:24] <TriGz> THX-1138 - How much knowledge would it require to compile from CVS?
[12:24] <Yono> pike_: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]  (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[12:25] <Rahsputin> oh
[12:25] <Rahsputin> gk is for ?
[12:25] <Yono> pike_:  both monitors work at bootup, but then mon #2 shuts off
[12:25] <Flannel> Rahsputin: gksudo is a graphical version of sudo (the one for gnome), it handles setting up the environment better for graphical programs
[12:26] <Yono> pike_: I've been trying to mess with xorg.conf to no avail
[12:26] <anon32> TriGz, you just need the right dependencies and the right tools
[12:26] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - The descriptor table was written back wrong. - You can remove a partition and format it ntfs then use checkdisk and defrag to gather things closer together. nothing will be caught at disk edge
[12:26] <pike_> Yono: is one mon a lcd or older crt?
[12:26] <TriGz> anon32 - How hard is that? :P
[12:26] <Yono> pike_: yes, the CRT functions, the FPD shuts off
[12:26] <pike_> Yono: i can paste an old config file of mine thats worked on solaris and linux..
[12:27] <anon32> TriGz, not hard... but time consuming
[12:27] <Yono> pike_: that would be great
[12:27] <Stargazers> Hi. I am trying to compile "Bless Hex Editor" but it always says that I have no mono installed when I run ./configure -script. When I try to apt-get install mono, it says that it is installed? What is wrong?
[12:27] <THX-1138> anon32 - Absolutely. - I occasionally eat at 7-11 it's all about convenience.
[12:27] <Stargazers> What package I need to compile it :S
[12:27] <Flannel> Stargazers: build-essential
[12:27] <Flannel> Stargazers: oh, wait.  nevermind.
[12:27] <TriGz> I'm going to hop onto ubuntu. brb :)
[12:27] <Stargazers> Ok.
[12:28] <Flannel> Stargazers: well, you'll still need that package, if you don't already.
[12:28] <Stargazers> What package?
[12:28] <Stargazers> mono?
[12:28] <Stargazers> I have it.
[12:28] <anon32> Stargazers, add more repositiories
[12:28] <anon32> mono is a .NET interpreter for Linux
[12:28] <Stargazers> Well... I am not sure what version I need or do I have all needed packages, propably not.
[12:28] <Stargazers> But I have no idea what I should install.
[12:29] <Stargazers> I don't just want to install 500MB of packages just for hex editor...
[12:29] <Stargazers> :P
[12:29] <pike_> Yono: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25700/
[12:29] <Yono> pike_: thanks, I'll go check it out
[12:29] <sax0n_m0f0r> somebody knows some project that has supported chipset DSC-350F(DLINK) that it is not the project spca5xx that only supports chipset DSC-350(DLINK) alguem knows of some alternative project?
[12:30] <mjr> Stargazers, you probably need at least mono-devel
[12:30] <Stargazers> Let me see.
[12:30] <anon32> Stargazers, lol
[12:30] <Stargazers> It is already newest version.
[12:30] <Flannel> Stargazers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MonoDevelopmentHowto  has some good links
[12:30] <Stargazers> When I try to install it with apt-get.
[12:30] <Stargazers> Oh, have to look.
[12:31] <Stargazers> Let me see...
[12:31] <Stargazers> Btw, what hexeditor you use in normal usage, or do you use any of them?
[12:31] <Rahsputin> is there a way to use a Fujitsu Siemens USB DVB-T antenna  ( dvb-t mobile tv tuner )   IMC Networks
[12:31] <Flannel> Stargazers: There are a few in the repositories
[12:31] <Stargazers> Well, what you personally use? :)
[12:31] <TriGz> and he's back :)
[12:32] <sax0n_m0f0r> somebody knows some project that has supported chipset DSC-350F(DLINK) that it is not the project spca5xx that only supports chipset DSC-350(DLINK) alguem knows of some alternative project?
[12:32] <sax0n_m0f0r> hey ?
[12:32] <cyberfall_> got to love the power company
[12:32] <cyberfall_> sometime i wonder if they pay there own eletric bill
[12:33] <wwwdotcom-mac> Flannel, I have low ram, so I need to use just the terminal
[12:33] <blind> Can I takke advantage of the Windows Messenging service via ubuntu?
[12:33] <Dr_willis> cyberfall,  they manage to lose their own bills
[12:33] <pike_> Yono: see 25701 for the one im using now
[12:33] <Flannel> blind: GAIM can do MSN messenger
[12:33] <blind> Flannel: not MSN.
[12:33] <blind> Flannel: the messenging service.
[12:33] <Flannel> blind: Windows Messenger is MSN Messenger
[12:33] <blind> Flannel: no.
[12:34] <foo_bar_foo> -)
[12:34] <kitche> Flannel: he means the service not the Messenger
[12:34] <blind> Flannel: you're thinking of something different :] 
[12:34] <Flannel> blind: samba can do that
[12:34] <Yono> pike_: ok I'm gonna go restart X11, thanks for your help
[12:34] <blind> Alright, cool.
[12:35] <ciphernemo> What's the best way to get the latest nVidia drivers for dapper?
[12:35] <Flannel> !tell ciphernemo about nvidia
[12:35] <cyberfall_> anyways back to my problem i was having with svn
[12:35] <cyberfall_> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk'
[12:36] <Stargazers> Well, I installed those packages, but same problem.
[12:36] <Stargazers> Wait I paste it on pastebin.
[12:36] <TriGz> And i'm back :d
[12:36] <cyberfall_> is there something about svn that not liking the link
[12:37] <Stargazers> Pastebin seems to be slooooooow.
[12:37] <theguy> how do i change myself to be the owner?
[12:37] <theguy> i cant write files to certain folders
[12:37] <theguy> and im lost
[12:37] <Flannel> theguy: which folders?
[12:37] <theguy> codecs
[12:37] <collier_> Hello, Why doesnt linux reconize my creative zen?
[12:38] <TriGz> !zen
[12:38] <Tokenbad> there is no way to save my data on this drive is there?
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <TriGz> !creative
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about creative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Flannel> theguy: usually you use sudo to copy the codecs there, instead of changing the owner of things
[12:38] <theguy> how i do dat..im new to linux
[12:39] <Stargazers> ARGH PASTEBIN lags.
[12:39] <Flannel> theguy: if you were using the cp command to copy stuff, you'd use "sudo cp [yadda yadda] " instead
[12:39] <blind> Stargazers: using pastebin.com ?
[12:39] <Stargazers> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25702/
[12:39] <collier_> Why doesnt linux reconize my creative zen?
[12:39] <Stargazers> blind: I tried it first :D. That was the laggy one.
[12:39] <Stargazers> :)
[12:40] <Stargazers> Then I saw that in topic there is other one.
[12:40] <blind> Stargazers: yeah, i was gonna suggest the ubuntu one :] 
[12:40] <Stargazers> Yep, my fault. Sorry 'bout that.
[12:40] <Stargazers> But anyway, that is what that says.
[12:40] <TriGz> !rar
[12:40] <zenit> collier_: recognize like a normal drive? That's what you mean?
[12:40] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:40] <collier_> zenit: yeah like a usb drive
[12:40] <TriGz> !info unrar-free
[12:40] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[12:41] <Rahsputin> anybody know where to get the dvb package
[12:41] <Rahsputin> !dvb
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <zenit> collier_: because zen is difficult this way. You need to set aside some space on the drive for the hd-functionality first
[12:41] <blind> !msg the bot
[12:41] <zenit> collier_: don't remember on top of my head, check the manual
[12:41] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:42] <cyberfall_> Flannel, hey
[12:42] <Flannel> cyberfall_: what command are you giving exactly?  that url works fine for me
[12:42] <cyberfall_>  svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk/
[12:42] <TriGz> ohmygod! why cant i unrar a file using unrar-free? :(
[12:42] <TriGz> !rar TriGz
[12:43] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:43] <Flannel> cyberfall_: no trailing slash
[12:43] <nblit> hello all
[12:44] <nblit> need assistance with wifi on Thinkpad x31
[12:44] <Dr_willis> unrar e whatever.rar (or is it x)
[12:44] <nblit> can anyone assist?
[12:44] <cyberfall_> svn, version 1.1.4 (r13838)
[12:44] <cyberfall_>    compiled Sep 24 2006, 11:15:15
[12:44] <cyberfall_>  svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk
[12:44] <cyberfall_> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufoai/ufoai/trunk'
[12:45] <XiXaQ> How is Ubuntu with laptops and dockingstations?
[12:45] <nblit> plz raise your voice if you can assist, i am a newbie and would like to get my wifi working on my laptop
[12:45] <deltab> Tokenbad: how was the disk set up before this happened?
[12:45] <deltab> nblit: what assitance do you need?
[12:45] <deltab> ^assistance
[12:46] <Flannel> cyberfall_: the only thing I can think of is that your subversion doesn't understand https
[12:46] <nblit> deltav>>i have a thinkpad x31 with aironet 350 minipci
[12:46] <cyberfall_> how is that when that what ubuntu package manager installed it
[12:46] <cyberfall_> is there a diffrent version of it
[12:46] <nblit> deltab>> it works fine if i disable the encryption on my AP but if i use WEP encryption it does not get ip address
[12:47] <Flannel> cyberfall_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:47] <deltab> nblit: can you use other encryption? WPA, iirc
[12:47] <nex_> howdy howdy
[12:47] <cyberfall_> umm about maybe month old
[12:48] <cyberfall_> 6.06 ls
[12:48] <cyberfall_> 6.06 lts
[12:48] <g333k_work> a fast downloads manager?
[12:48] <zenit> nblit: and you are 100% sure that the key entered is correct?
[12:48] <nblit> deltb: my router supports it but i was not able to connect, tried to use wiki to enable wpa for laptop, didnt work ;-(
[12:48] <g333k_work> I'm using 6.10 :p
[12:48] <Flannel> cyberfall_: that's not possible.  the subversion in the repositories is 1.3, not 1.1
[12:48] <g333k_work> its wonderful but the synaptic is slow
[12:49] <g333k_work> a fast downloads manager?
[12:49] <nblit> deltab: my router is wrt54gs v5.0 with dd-wrt
[12:49] <nblit> zenit completley sure
[12:50] <cyberfall_> Flannel, ok let me go beat my head against a wall
[12:50] <zenit> nblit: oki, and your adapter support 128bit wep?
[12:50] <zenit> s
[12:50] <cyberfall_> not sure i may of compiled that one and i grab a old copy
[12:50] <Flannel> cyberfall_: svn --version gives you 1.1?
[12:50] <nblit> zenit: actually i am using 64bit
[12:51] <zenit> nblit: ah, oki. Then that's ruled out.
[12:51] <nblit> and the card supports it, it is a cisco/aironet 350 minipci
[12:51] <zenit> ok
[12:51] <Tokenbad> deltab, as just a single partition of 80 gigs
[12:51] <Tokenbad> or whatever it is after they use the default space for whatever
[12:52] <cyberfall_> Flannel,  how do i uninstall a compiled copy
[12:52] <nblit> guys i am going to tey WPA in a different way, i might return
[12:53] <Flannel> cyberfall_: by deleting all the files that were installed
[12:53] <cyberfall_> oh ya that easys
[12:53] <hollaback83> how do i get root privliges????????
[12:53] <Flannel> hollaback83: sudo
[12:53] <deltab> Tokenbad: Windows or Linux?
[12:53] <cyberfall_> and how do i get a list of that
[12:53] <Flannel> cyberfall_: that's why people use package managers ;)
[12:53] <cyberfall_> hehe
[12:53] <hollaback83> sudo??
[12:53] <Flannel> hollaback83: yes
[12:53] <hollaback83> wut is sudo
[12:54] <cyberfall_> well i figure the package manager would of fixed it
[12:54] <Flannel> !tell hollaback83 about sudo
[12:54] <Flannel> cyberfall_: the make file, if you still have it, might have a make uninstall, or make clean
[12:54] <vdepizzol> can anyone confirm this on gnome 2.16? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359726
[12:55] <deltab> http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[12:55] <TriGz> Can anyone help me with Unrar-free? I use the command.. unrar-free -x -p filename /home/useraccount/Desktop - But i don't get anything after it says it as extracted everything OK :|
[12:55] <Flannel> vdepizzol: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[12:56] <vdepizzol> Flannel, thank's
[12:56] <o0vapermonkey0o> hi all is there any way to get more speed out of my gateway p4 1.5
[12:56] <deltab> TriGz: -p for password?
[12:56] <ScipioAfricanus> overclock?
[12:57] <TriGz> deltab, yes.
[12:57] <o0vapermonkey0o> or a program to do it
[12:57] <deltab> o0vapermonkey0o: what kind of speed?
[12:57] <Paddy_EIRE> has anyone managed to crack using a Sony MiniDisc Player with linux yet....all I can find is some guy on sourceforge thats made a gui for it yet no driver he intends for someon to write there own!
[12:57] <ScipioAfricanus> but most of the big comp. makers lock down clock speeds
[12:58] <o0vapermonkey0o> well i am playing wow and it is cinda choppy and i thaught if i used some of my harddrive space it will run better
[12:58] <o0vapermonkey0o> just want to boost my pc a little
[12:58] <cyberfall_> Flannel,  i found it but no make uninstall
[12:58] <feross> o0vapermonkey0o: hmm, you could optimize Ubuntu to boot and shutdown faster, also turn off anything you don't need. Did you install the i686 kernel and modules, that will improve speed somewhat.
[12:58] <cyberfall_> and make clean didnt work
[12:59] <TriGz> o0vapermonkey0o - Mind if i ask what your using to run wow? (Wine, Cedega) ?
[12:59] <feross> o0vapermonkey0o: Also if you have plenty of RAM you could turn off your swap space which could give you a speed boost.
[12:59] <Tokenbad> deltab, the extention I had was ext3
[12:59] <o0vapermonkey0o> how do i find out what one i installed i686
[12:59] <kromel> o0vapermonkey0o, my friend's WoW was choppy yesterday morning.  I found a fix for him, let me see if I can find it.  It may work for you too.
[12:59] <Tokenbad> but now that one info says there is some kind of windows partition
[12:59] <o0vapermonkey0o> wine
[01:00] <TriGz> o0vapermonkey0o - Do you have a problem where you see black squares under Mobs and NPC's? and you cant interact with them? :P
[01:00] <kromel> oh, nevermind, he was using Cedega.
[01:00] <o0vapermonkey0o> no just the doors to bld r ripped
[01:00] <TriGz> hmm
[01:00] <amicrawle> how do i update just 1 pkg  i want
[01:01] <TriGz> i'm trying to un-rar cedega so i can install with that and try again, see if it sorts the black squares out ^^
[01:01] <nex_> what game are you getting black squares on?
[01:01] <eXistenZ> TriGz, Isn't cedega commercial?
[01:02] <TriGz> nex_ - I'm getting black squares on World Of Warcraft
[01:02] <TriGz> eXistenZ - yes it is. ;o
[01:02] <deltab> Tokenbad: so you had one ext3 partition, and wanted to make it into two?
[01:02] <cpk2> doesnt the wiki have a howto of wow&wine?
[01:02] <o0vapermonkey0o> how do i turn off my swap space i have less than a gig of ram
[01:03] <kitche> o0vapermonkey0o: if you have less then a gig of ram then swap space is good
[01:03] <^Ocean^> To get an old doss 6.22 to reconize a burned CD do i have to burn it in any special modE?   Becuase i burnt a cd this computer see's the contents fine.   but the dos 6.22 computer  will read the root of the CD but wont go into any sub directory on it.. says file not found
[01:03] <feross> amicrawle: if you 'apt-get install pkgname' it will tell you if it's the latest one. If it's not in the listed repos you can download it and 'dpkg -i pkgname.deb'
[01:03] <kromel> TriGz, this guide worked great for me and my friend.  http://spherenet.spherevision.org/dokuwiki/howtos:wowoncedega
[01:03] <TriGz> kromel - I'm actually having trouble's installing cedega :P
[01:03] <o0vapermonkey0o> i have look all over the net cant find any thing usefull to me the game works great but it could be better
[01:04] <kromel> TriGz, oh...
[01:04] <o0vapermonkey0o> would more swap space be better
[01:04] <TriGz> kromel - Well.. Unrar'ing the pre-compiled CVS version my friend done for me xD
[01:04] <Tokenbad> deltab, yes....I tried to use gparted...and it froze...when rebooted....it now says the drive is 47 gigs...with 15 gigs free...so am missing like 30 gigs
[01:04] <o0vapermonkey0o> i have a 300 gig harddrive
[01:04] <amicrawle> i did but the website sayes the dapper ver is very old
[01:05] <puff> My drive is full, are there any good tools/utilities for figuring out what's taking up all the space?
[01:05] <deltab> puff: du, tkdu
[01:05] <feross> o0vapermonkey0o: well you can test it, just run 'swapoff'. Then use 'top' to see how you're doing on memory.
[01:05] <gtl> how can I setup flashplayer on ubuntu x86_64?
[01:05] <amicrawle> puff try your temp file
[01:05] <puff> I was just thinking that it might make a nice little project for learning ruby.
[01:05] <mjr> gtl, not trivially
[01:05] <TriGz> Can anyone help me with un-rar'ing with unrar-free? :O
[01:05] <kromel> TriGz, ahh, to help clean up this chat, mind if I send you a private message?
[01:05] <gtl> mjr: meaning?
[01:06] <amicrawle> trigz i can
[01:06] <deltab> o0vapermonkey0o: I suggest you add a system monitor applet, and set it to display ram and swap
[01:06] <ladydoor> does anybody either know a) how to take a square root in bc, or b) a good console-based calculator program
[01:06] <ladydoor> ?
[01:06] <amicrawle> trigz i can  pm me and i will help
[01:06] <mjr> gtl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:06] <o0vapermonkey0o> what is that called
[01:07] <Arrick> hey guys, I am in class, and not near my ubuntu computer, can someone give me the terminal command for dropping to root?
[01:07] <gtl> mjr: thx!
[01:07] <feross> o0vapermonkey0o: more swap does not equal better performance. About twice your RAM of swap is fine.
[01:07] <amicrawle> i got flash9 to work
[01:07] <Arrick> by the way good evening
[01:07] <deltab> ladydoor: sqrt(49)
[01:07] <feross> Arrick: sudo su -
[01:07] <ladydoor> deltab: thank you!
[01:07] <Arrick> thanks
[01:07] <kitche> Arrick: su - you don't even need to sudo it seems
[01:07] <o0vapermonkey0o> Swap:  1887596k total,    40632k used,  1846964k free,   182928k cached
[01:08] <TriGz> kromel - feel free to PM me
  try in the shell  df -h
[01:08] <deltab> kitche: su will ask for the target user's password when not run by root
[01:08] <TriGz> amicrawle - i can't PM you.. I havn't registered yet xD
[01:08] <amicrawle> that will tell you megabites and gigabites
[01:08] <o0vapermonkey0o> what i am cins noob
[01:08] <amicrawle> how do i reg TriGz
[01:08] <o0vapermonkey0o> cinda*
[01:09] <TriGz> amicrawle - try and PM someone, it will give you a link. im going to do it now ^^
[01:09] <Arrick> thanks kitche
[01:09] <kitche> deltab: correct but I know people that used su - on ubuntu but then agian it was back in 5.x series
[01:09] <deltab> o0vapermonkey0o: you have plenty of swap (nearly 2 Gb) and are barely using it
[01:10] <amicrawle> people how do i reg my user name
[01:10] <o0vapermonkey0o> so my swap is fine
[01:10] <deltab> amicrawle: /msg nickserv help register
[01:10] <kitche> amicrawle: /quote nickserv help register never do /msg
[01:10] <TriGz> amicrawle - I'm going to pm you with the command you need to do.
[01:10] <cyberfall_> umm ok
[01:10] <kitche> since nickserv might not be who you think it is it happened on here before
[01:10] <cyberfall_> apt-get install svn dont work
[01:11] <puff> amicrawle: You mean /tmp?  Already checked... also /var/tmp.
[01:11] <deltab> cyberfall_: subversion
[01:11] <cyberfall_> i installed that in the package manager
[01:11] <cyberfall_> and reinstalled it
[01:11] <puff> deltab: Yeah, du is what I usually use, I was hoping for something a bit moreintelligent.
[01:11] <cyberfall_> and no work
[01:11] <deltab> puff: tkdu
[01:11] <puff> deltab: Actually, I'm thinking of building a little utility to do what I normally do with du when I'm trying to free up disk space.
[01:11] <cyberfall_> i deleted the svn files that showed in a command whereis svn
[01:11] <ladydoor> deltab: do you know how to get it to display more decimal places?
[01:11] <deltab> puff: what's that?
[01:12] <o0vapermonkey0o> y does it say 2users feross
[01:12] <feross> puff: uhm  did you 'apt-get clean' and 'apt-get autoclean'?
[01:12] <puff> deltab:  Usually I start with something like  "du -sk ~/* | sort -n", followed by "sudo du -sk /home/* | sort -n", if it's a shared box.
[01:12] <puff> feross: Good idea.
[01:13] <deltab> ladydoor: scale=10
[01:13] <ladydoor> deltab: thanks
[01:13] <Tokenbad> deltab, did you see my responce?
[01:13] <Adam> if I run uname -r I get 2.6.12-10-386. Should this 386 actually be 686? I am a bit confused why it says 386 why I would expect 686.
[01:13] <ladydoor> deltab: thanks muchly, actually!
[01:13] <feross> o0vapermonkey0o: if you're in a terminal as root it will show that as another user.
[01:13] <cyberfall_> 686 i think is for pentium pro
[01:13] <deltab> Tokenbad: yeah
[01:13] <cyberfall_> not sure if that still true
[01:14] <puff> feross: unfortunately, that didn't make any difference.  Hm.
[01:14] <o0vapermonkey0o> ok so there is no program to make it runn better
[01:14] <cyberfall_> i386 is just i think normal x86 code based
[01:14] <amicrawle> <o0vapermonkey0o  what are you trying to do
[01:15] <feross> cyberfall_: I'm sorry to correct you but i386 is for everything p2 and older.. P3 and newer should use i686
[01:15] <deltab> Tokenbad: do you know what gparted done done when it crashed?
[01:15] <deltab> ^had done
[01:15] <puff> IRRC JGoodies had a neat little java tool for doing osm eo fhtis.
[01:15] <o0vapermonkey0o> trying to play wow at top speed but i only have a p4 1.5 with 786 ram
[01:15] <Adam> so 386 is wrong if I am running an inter pentium 640 3 gig processor?
[01:15] <amicrawle> relly
[01:15] <o0vapermonkey0o> ya
[01:15] <Tokenbad> deltab, it was resizing the partition to use free space of it to make another partition
[01:15] <amicrawle> i play wow on a x86 800mhz
[01:16] <amicrawle> with 512mb or ram
[01:16] <o0vapermonkey0o> it plays but not verry good the doors r riped and cinda laggy
[01:16] <deltab> Tokenbad: are all the files okay?
[01:16] <amicrawle> humm
[01:16] <mjr> Adam, it's not wrong as such, though slightly suboptimal
[01:16] <feross> Adam: if you have a P3 you should change the default to i686. Ubuntu installs i386 just to make sure it will work for most PC's.
[01:16] <amicrawle> did you try xwine
[01:16] <amicrawle> or wine
[01:16] <o0vapermonkey0o> just wine
[01:17] <Adam> so how do I change it?
[01:17] <amicrawle> did you all so try transgaimg
[01:17] <cyberfall_> feross,  no problems
[01:17] <Deramin> How do I manually install the JDK from the .bin or -rpm.bin off sun's site?
[01:17] <o0vapermonkey0o> no
[01:17] <sethk> Deramin, chmod +x whatever.bin     then    ./whatever.bin
[01:17] <amicrawle> you might find it very useful
[01:17] <cyberfall_> i just kinda remember back in the day when i686 start showin up when the pentium pro was out
[01:17] <sethk> Deramin, as root
[01:17] <Tokenbad> deltab, the files are there...but the freespace was going to use as another partition is gone
[01:17] <o0vapermonkey0o> webpage
[01:17] <cyberfall_> and i was getting brave to try linux on a k6
[01:18] <amicrawle> i use transgaming
[01:18] <cyberfall_> and about cooked it
[01:18] <amicrawle> www.transgaming.com
[01:18] <cyberfall_> back when red hat was gpl
[01:18] <feross> Adam: do 'apt-get install kernel-image-i686' or something like that .. lemme look it up.
[01:18] <Deramin> sethk: ah, the root part may have been what was bunging me up. How do I run something at root, again?
[01:18] <Tokenbad> o0vapermonkey0o, have you tried the new crossover?  it supports wow
[01:18] <deltab> Tokenbad: your partition table isn't accurately describing the layout of your disk
[01:19] <o0vapermonkey0o> na just wine
[01:19] <Tokenbad> deltab, I figured that...but how fix it...without losing data
[01:19] <deltab> Tokenbad: find out where the current partitions actually are
[01:19] <Tokenbad> o0vapermonkey0o, they have a trial version you can test...
[01:19] <cyberfall_> apt-get install subervsion say it installed
[01:19] <cyberfall_> but i use svn and notta
[01:19] <Tokenbad> deltab, ummm...ok...how?
[01:20] <o0vapermonkey0o> it plays sound is choppy and doors are ripped
[01:20] <Deramin> ~How do I run something *as* root
[01:20] <deltab> Tokenbad: maybe your files are spread out across the disk, but some of them are outside the partition and can't be accessed
[01:20] <sethk> Deramin, either use sudo, or use su.
[01:20] <stodge> Anyone know how to change the resolution of the login screen (gdm?)?
[01:20] <Adam> run something as root use sudo
[01:20] <Deramin> sethk: ah. thanks.
[01:20] <deltab> Tokenbad: maybe they were all packed into the smaller space now covered by the first partition
[01:21] <deltab> Tokenbad: which of those is the case?
[01:22] <Gk-s2-> hello
[01:22] <Tokenbad> all the files are within the 47 gig part
[01:22] <Gk-s2-> someone can help me?
[01:22] <Tokenbad> deltab, all the files are within the 47 gig part
[01:22] <deltab> Tokenbad: you've checked that?
[01:22] <Adam> there is no package kernel-image-i686
[01:23] <Tokenbad> well if I mount hdd1 which is only 47 gigs...the files are there....
[01:23] <sethk> stodge, gdm uses the highest defined resolution
[01:23] <deltab> Tokenbad: was 47 gig the size you chose?
[01:23] <deltab> Tokenbad: *all* of the files?
[01:23] <stodge> It does? Oh that's a pain :P
[01:23] <stodge> Ok I'll reconfigure X then - thanks
[01:23] <jmerlin> anyone here an expert with printers? :>
[01:24] <deltab> Tokenbad: how have you checked?
[01:24] <Tokenbad> deltab, let me explain this again...I had 80 gig drive...which had like 45 gigs use...I tried to use 20 gigs of the free space on that drive to make another partition...when gparted froze...and I rebooted...the drive said it was actually full...75 of 80 gigs used...
[01:24] <o0vapermonkey0o> cant i get Cedega for free
[01:24] <stodge> Cedega is commercial
[01:25] <Tokenbad> deltab, I then ran fsck on it...and that then made it say 47 gigs with 15 gigs free of that
[01:25] <o0vapermonkey0o> is there a way around it
[01:25] <deltab> Tokenbad: because it hadn't changed the partition table yet
[01:25] <Tokenbad> deltab, cause I erased some movies off...
[01:25] <stodge> No idea
[01:25] <Tokenbad> deltab, thats why it now says 15 gigs free..
[01:25] <stodge> It's cheap - buy it
[01:25] <o0vapermonkey0o> i am poor
[01:25] <romans5n1> I was just looking at both the ubuntu and kubuntu distros... i noticed that kubuntu dvd distro is both a live and install cd... is this true for the ubuntu dvd distro as well?
[01:25] <deltab> Tokenbad: when?
[01:27] <nblit> deltab: I'm back, i tried WPA according to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo and still does not work
[01:27] <stopgo> If I'm on a 686 kernel and I download the 386 image through my Package Updater (or whatever the gui auto-update frontend is called in English), it'll replace my current 686 kernel, right? Same with the modules for 386?
[01:27] <o0vapermonkey0o> it is 55$ a year
[01:27] <stodge> That's cheap
[01:27] <sethk> romans5n1, for the latest release, yes
[01:27] <cafuego> stopgo: no
[01:27] <nblit> deltab: i think the WPA_SUPPLICANT is looking for the wrong device
[01:27] <sethk> romans5n1, for the previous release (both ubuntu and kubuntu) they were separate CDs
[01:28] <deltab> nblit: why do you think that?
[01:28] <sethk> romans5n1, there is still a separate alternate CD
[01:28] <stopgo> cafuego: oh. what's it do with the stuff it downloads then?
[01:28] <MrFeetio> hi
[01:28] <sethk> romans5n1, well, not "still", exactly, there is a separate alternate install cd that is similar to the install cd of the previous version
[01:28] <Tokenbad> deltab, after gparted froze and rebooted and it said the drive was full I tried to clean some of it off...
[01:28] <Adam> ok so how do I update from 386 to 686? use Package linux-image-2.6.15-23-686?
[01:28] <sethk> romans5n1, but the desktop options install was moved to the live cd
[01:28] <nblit> deltab: oh wait
[01:28] <romans5n1> cool... from what I've read and seen, I'm 99% sure it's going to be one of the two for me, so it comes down to which desktop I like best ;)... though from screenshots, I'm already leaning toward ubuntu
[01:28] <Tokenbad> deltab, but then still was missing space...
[01:28] <jmerlin> anyone here an expert with printers? :>
[01:29] <nblit> i think i put the wrong card Duuuuuuuuuh
[01:29] <MrFeetio> !beryl
[01:29] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:29] <jmerlin> i need help getting my lexmark to print and some help with pharos
[01:29] <codezero> Seveas, i realized that the problem was because of a bug in fglrx driver...actually it is properly installed as described on the wiki. but the problem is about libGL.so.2 and I should have changed it to solve the problem...I didnt like the solution so I gave up...because ldconfig would probably change the symlinks to the libraries and the problem will arise another time. so I wait for an update on the repository for a new fglrx driver but it seems ther
[01:29] <codezero> e hasnt been any updates recently...bad for ati and ubuntu users
[01:29] <cafuego> stopgo: It will keep the existing 686 one, but depending on the version number it might start to boot the newer 386 one by default. If it's just a seciroty fix, nothing will happen.
[01:29] <romans5n1> sethk: yeah, there's CDs and one DVD... take your pick
[01:29] <Shadow_mil> How do I tell gnome to use samba for smb:// address?
[01:30] <sethk> romans5n1, so the answer to your original question is, I guess, that the live cd is the install cd only for the desktop install flavor
[01:30] <cyberfall_> i think i broken my linux box
[01:30] <constantine-xvi> does anyone know the GPL reasonably well?
[01:30] <cafuego> Adam: No, 'sudo apt-get install linux-686' -> that fetches the latest one (2.6.15.-27)
[01:30] <sethk> cyberfall_, is it burning?
[01:30] <cyberfall_> it will be
[01:30] <romans5n1> okay... well, thanks for the info... I was pretty sure it was the same, but just wanted to satisfy my curiousity
[01:30] <sethk> constantine-xvi, depends on what you mean by reasonably, I guess.
[01:30] <sethk> cyberfall_, put that flame thrower down NOW
[01:30] <deltab> Tokenbad: when did it say the drive was full? when trying to add a partition?
[01:30] <cyberfall_> hehe
[01:31] <nblit> deltab: what dows this mean? ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_PRISM2_PARAM] : Bad address
[01:31] <stopgo> cafuego: oh. i just have to make sure i'm still using the right image after the update then. easy enough. thanks :)
[01:31] <jmerlin> DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PHAROS PRINT STATION + LINUX ?
[01:31] <cafuego> stopgo: Yeh, just check the listing in grub
[01:31] <constantine-xvi> sethk: if you're using GPL stuff in software you never plan on releasing, do you have to release it anyway?
[01:31] <deltab> nblit: I guess it's something not supported
[01:31] <Tokenbad> deltab, no...after gparted froze...and I rebooted...
[01:32] <nblit> i get this once i run the WPA_SUPPLICANT as follows: sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf airo -w
[01:32] <constantine-xvi> as in: internal company sw
[01:32] <jeff_> When I read an email in Thunderbird, it disappears after switching folders. After looking, I can't find anything that is set wrong. Anyone have any ideas where to look?
[01:32] <sethk> constantine-xvi, "plan" doesn't matter.  If you ever release it, then you become bound by the provisions relating to released software.
[01:32] <sethk> constantine-xvi, until then, no, there is no obligation
[01:32] <constantine-xvi> exactly what i needed to know
[01:32] <cyberfall_> /usr/bin# ./svn
[01:32] <cyberfall_> ./svn: symbol lookup error: ./svn: undefined symbol: svn_ra_initialize
[01:33] <sethk> cyberfall_, mixed up shared library versions
[01:33] <mjr> (Actually, that's not entirely true. They either abide by the provisions or are guilty of copyright infringement, which is a different matter, but off-topic anyway.)
[01:33] <Borat> hey, does anyone know how to run in root so i can copy paste files/folders wherever i want?
[01:33] <sethk> cyberfall_, how did you get to that point?
[01:33] <cyberfall_> umm ok out of the million which one is it hehe
[01:33] <knut_> need help by configuring opera 9 for my 64bit system
[01:33] <deltab> Tokenbad: so that what happened?
[01:33] <cyberfall_> oh easy
[01:33] <knut_> dont know how to run the 32bit one
[01:33] <sethk> mjr, right; the question was about when the provisions go into effect.
[01:33] <sethk> mjr, not specifically what you might be guilty of  :)
[01:33] <cyberfall_> not use the package mannager and compile and install an old version of subversion
[01:34] <TomChire> Borat, sudo nautilus
[01:34] <mjr> sethk, I suppose I was trying to read the meaning too strictly :] 
[01:34] <Borat> TomChire i <3 you
[01:34] <sethk> cyberfall_, that will do it, I guess.
[01:34] <ninja_monkey> Are there any tips on how to setup a laptop-touchpad?
[01:34] <TomChire> Borat, i likey you too
[01:34] <nblit> deltab: i am getting Failed to set encryption when testing the WPA
[01:34] <ninja_monkey> It currently bugs me very nice :|
[01:34] <Jeb> hiya all
[01:35] <sethk> ninja_monkey, there is some documentation in the kernel source tree about setting up touchpads.  Also you can find info on the xorg site.
[01:35] <ninja_monkey> fanx.
[01:35] <jmerlin> DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PHAROS PRINT STATION + LINUX ?  PLEASE PM ME OR ANSWER WITH MY NAME SO I CAN SEE THE MESSAGE HIGHLIGHTED
[01:35] <Tokenbad> deltab, well after gparted froze and it started saying the drive was full...I tried to fix it with fsck....which it did partly...and then I have been trying to figure out where the other 30 gigs went to
[01:35] <jeff_> !caps
[01:35] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:36] <JebJoya> can anyone give me any advice on installing ubuntu on a slightly low spec system?
[01:36] <deltab> Tokenbad: gparted froze and started saying the drive was full?
[01:36] <ladydoor> JebJoya: install xubuntu?
[01:36] <sethk> JebJoya, do the oem install, and then install a low overhead desktop
[01:37] <nblit> <<Can anyone assist with a Thinkpad x31 wifi problem?  PLZ PM ME>>>>
[01:37] <sethk> JebJoya, xubuntu basically does that using I think xfce
[01:37] <nblit> <<Can anyone assist with a Thinkpad x31 wifi problem?  PLZ PM ME>>>>
[01:37] <deltab> nblit: you could try another channel with people who know more about wifi. unfortunately I don't know of any
[01:38] <nblit> deltab: thx
[01:38] <JebJoya> my issue is not being able to run the install program - i was thinking xubuntu, but i noticed the alternate ubuntu cd says it's for installing on less than 192Mb of RAM (the laptop i'm using has 256Mb RAM, but 64 goes to graphics :( )
[01:38] <kitche> nblit: ipw2200 chipset
[01:38] <sethk> JebJoya, go with text mode only, then
[01:38] <nblit> kitchie: No it airo
[01:38] <sethk> JebJoya, at least to begin with
[01:38] <^Ocean^> To make a dos 6.22 readable cdrom, do i have to burn it in any fancy way?  Becuase if i just burn it normaly, it see's everything on the CDrom but cannot access it.  like if i do cd dir i get Invalid Directory
[01:38] <sethk> JebJoya, use the text mode install on the alternate cd
[01:39] <nblit> kitchie: my wifi card is Cisco/Aironet 350 MiniPCI
[01:39] <chupacabra> is there a list of ubuntu packages?  I cannot find mc.
[01:39] <JebJoya> okay, that's cool :)  i was hoping there was something like that on the alternate cd - it's dlaoding atm :)
[01:39] <sethk> JebJoya, "text mode" on the alternate cd refers to the fact that the install program is text mode, not that the install itself will be text mode.
[01:39] <ofer0> chupacabra, find mc where?
[01:39] <rahmiel> I'm having some difficulty going through the process of installing and enabling the nvidia drivers. I can install the nvidia-glx, but when I do a nvidia-glx-config, the script fails to run.
[01:39] <sethk> JebJoya, so you have to select an install option set that doesn't include a desktop.
[01:39] <chupacabra> in the online packages.
[01:39] <ofer0> chupacabra, you can "apt-cache search mc", but it'll give you plenty of results.
[01:39] <dean_> can anyone direct me to documentation or help with a problem getting Glade to work on Dapper, the program cannot find required libraries, even though they are installed
[01:40] <ofer0> apt-cache search midnight commander, maybe.
[01:40] <sethk> chupacabra, you mean the program mc?
[01:40] <chupacabra> cool
[01:40] <chupacabra> ya
[01:40] <JebJoya> i think the pc should cope with it when it's installed, it's the livecd it's having issues with - it's not that low spec :)
[01:40] <JebJoya> (touch wood ;) )
[01:40] <deltab> mc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager
[01:40] <ofer0> dean_, libs such as...?
[01:40] <chupacabra> yes
[01:40] <sethk> chupacabra, package name is mc
[01:40] <ofer0> aptitude install it then..
[01:40] <sethk> chupacabra, so   sudo apt-get install mc
[01:40] <JebJoya> thanks a lot for the help all :)
[01:40] <dean_> libgnomeui, libgnomecanvas et al
[01:40] <chupacabra> i'll try again.  whoot
[01:40] <AsadR> how do i install the manpages for function calls like socket(), gethostbyname(), etc. ?
[01:40] <SpaceFrog> How can i change a directory's permissions so that cron can write to it?
[01:40] <sethk> chupacabra, if you don't find it, your repository list needs work
[01:41] <dean_> gtk2
[01:41] <ofer0> SpaceFrog, what is the currently dir permissions ?
[01:41] <sethk> SpaceFrog, you change a directory permission with chmod.  to change a directory including all it's files, you use chmod -R
[01:41] <rahmiel> This happens after doing a nvidia-glx-config: Error: your X configuration has been altered. This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section from nv to nvidia. Running the command causes my 
[01:41] <chupacabra> ahhhahhh  got it thanks
[01:41] <sethk> SpaceFrog, however, you can't say what permissions for a cron job because in general a cron job may run as a variety of users.
[01:41] <JebJoya> oh, also, anyone know what exactly i should look for to get LaTeX when I've installed ubuntu?
[01:42] <JebJoya> (if anyone knows LaTeX, which isn't necessarily that likely... :) )
[01:42] <ofer0> sethk, that's only debian cronjobs
[01:42] <ofer0> sethk, on other distros the cronjob is limited to root only
[01:42] <sethk> ofer0, no, that's not true.  you can easily modify the default cron operating parameters
[01:42] <SpaceFrog> However, I'll be copying my configuration to a Debian server
[01:42] <MrFeetio> !beryl
[01:42] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:42] <TomChire> Is there a way to adjust volume of xmms via commandline?
[01:42] <yellow> hey guys how can i change my firefox user agent in ubuntu ?
[01:42] <kitche> ofer0: cron can run as any user
[01:43] <AsadR> what package contains the manpages for all the system calls and socket api calls, and the other libc functions?
[01:43] <ofer0> kitche, on which distro? :)
[01:43] <JebJoya> no LaTeX users? ah well, i'm sure I'll work it out :)
[01:43] <kitche> ofer0: all of the distros
[01:43] <sethk> ofer0, on all distros.  cron does not change from distro to distro
[01:43] <ofer0> sethk, it is.
[01:43] <yellow> JebJoya:  i'm a latex user
[01:43] <sethk> JebJoya, I use it, but I've not installed it with the package manager
[01:43] <damonkey> bonjour tout le monde :)
[01:43] <ofer0> for example, in the distro I use, I don't even have a crontab.
[01:43] <JebJoya> i presume it's available through the package manager?
[01:44] <stodge> "*** Warning: X development files not found." - anyone know what packages contain X development files?
[01:44] <sethk> JebJoya, I'm not sure, I'll check
[01:44] <JebJoya> thanks :)
[01:44] <ofer0> stodge, the packages that ends with -dev
[01:44] <qatsi> why could GRUB se my SATA disk as (2,3) when its (0,3) ??? now every time i boot, i need to edit the file...(im going to edit it now so i dont have to) but i still wonder why is that ?
[01:44] <stodge> Which one
[01:44] <Deramin> sethk: what if the chmod doesn't work? I don't get an error, it just does nothing
[01:44] <stodge> There are several
[01:44] <kitche> ofer0: probably the distro doesn't have crontab installed
[01:44] <Tokenbad> deltab, once it froze and I rebooted yes
[01:45] <sethk> JebJoya, yes.  search for packages starting with tetex-
[01:45] <kitche> qatsi: edit the file when you get booted then save it
[01:45] <ofer0> kitche, crontab is a package for debian
[01:45] <feross> Adam: ah, sorry had to step away, father-in-law on phone.
[01:45] <feross> Adam: but I see you got it.
[01:45] <qatsi> kitche: yes, im going to do that, but why did it detected the disk incorrectly ?
[01:45] <JebJoya> i guessed it would be tetex, thanks for the help sethx :)
[01:45] <sethk> ofer0, the fact that a package named crontab exists for debian does not imply that you cannot install a package that installs a crontab on other distros.
[01:46] <deltab> Tokenbad: what did you do after rebooting?
[01:46] <ofer0> kitche, please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab
[01:46] <sethk> ofer0, do you think the other distros say "hey, I won't allow that, because somewhere there is a package called crontab"?
[01:46] <kitche> ofer0: on other distros the package is just called cron
[01:46] <rahmiel> Anyone a nvidia user or know how to troubleshoot the nvidia-glx-config not working correctly?
[01:46] <vdepizzol> when I try to use festival, I get "Can't open /dev/dsp", How I know the program is using it?
[01:46] <kitche> ofer0: I use fcron myself it's easier to use
[01:46] <sethk> ofer0, crontab can be installed with the package manager, or outside the package manager.
[01:46] <sethk> ofer0, the package manager does not limit what you can or cannot install
[01:47] <deltab> vdepizzol: fuser /dev/dsp
[01:47] <deltab> vdepizzol: fuser /dev/dsp | xargs ps
[01:47] <jester45> would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c?
[01:47] <sethk> ofer0, all of my ubuntu systems have a crontab.
[01:47] <Tokenbad> just started gparted...then saw that...so tried to remove some stuff to get some space...now it says 55 gigs is used and 16 gigs is free...even though before I tried to partition...there was only 45 gigs used...and I removed prob 10 gigs of that when I deleted those movies
[01:47] <Tokenbad> deltab, just started gparted...then saw that...so tried to remove some stuff to get some space...now it says 55 gigs is used and 16 gigs is free...even though before I tried to partition...there was only 45 gigs used...and I removed prob 10 gigs of that when I deleted those movies
[01:47] <ofer0> sethk, what you are saying has nothing to do with my claim, so let's leave it alone for now
[01:47] <beuno> does anyone know if I need 2 DNS to resolve a domain or I can use just 1?
[01:47] <ofer0> beuno, which domain is taht?
[01:47] <JebJoya> now, more importantly, how long til Lost is on? ;)
[01:47] <deltab> what says that?
[01:47] <ofer0> beuno, that*
[01:48] <vdepizzol> deltab, and how can I exit it?
[01:48] <ofer0> JebJoya, 2-5 hours
[01:48] <sethk> beuno, to act as the DNS for a domain, you need a primary and secondary DNS server.
[01:48] <beuno> ofer0, Ive got a bind server installed, ANY domain
[01:48] <ofer0> sethk, not on all TLDs
[01:48] <beuno> sethk, can one network card have 2 IPs?
[01:48] <sethk> beuno, you need two.
[01:48] <deltab> vdepizzol: exit what?
[01:48] <gu014> hello, i am trying to install apache 2 and phpmyadmin..both are installed but when i try to click 'phpmyadmin' at local host from firefox it attempts to download some .phtml file? can anyone help me out with this problem?>
[01:48] <sethk> beuno, one network card can have 1000 IPs, but that's cheating.
[01:49] <darkanyel> hi
[01:49] <jester45> would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c?
[01:49] <berent> sethk: how
[01:49] <sethk> berent, how what?
[01:49] <dean_> anyone know anything about Glade?
[01:49] <beuno> sethk, the situation is I have 1 nic on the server, how can I asign it 2 IPs?
[01:49] <jmerlin> nobody here knows how to configure printers on ubuntu.. nice..
[01:49] <ofer0> sethk, some of them, can work with one. some of them can work with 2, but on the same IP. some of them (such as .com, .net, etc..) can only work with 2 IPs.
[01:49] <darkanyel> how can i use thunar as default????
[01:49] <berent> sethk:how can one card have 1000ips at the same time
[01:49] <sethk> beuno, you can install an alias for a card as follows:
[01:49] <ofer0> beuno, did you pay for additional IPs ?
[01:50] <beuno> ofer0, yes I did
[01:50] <vdepizzol> deltab, the program is using /dev/dsp
[01:50] <beuno> I've got one of them working
[01:50] <ofer0> beuno, you have to create a virtual interface named eth0:1 ( for example ) and assign the next IP to it.
[01:50] <sethk> beuno, you use the notation:   eth#:#         as in:   eth0:1
[01:50] <godtvisk1n> can anyone suggest some good dvd ripping software?
[01:50] <jester45> acidrip
[01:51] <Vornotron> dd
[01:51] <Vornotron> :P
[01:51] <oxyride> hehe
[01:51] <ofer0> beuno, for example: ifconfig eth0:1 ip.ip.ip.ip up
[01:51] <beuno> so to make it eth2, I would have to do eth0:2, right?
[01:51] <sethk> beuno, so you can do   ifconfig eth0:1  ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###
[01:51] <ANTDx1> Hello everyone.
[01:52] <oxyride> hello
[01:52] <sethk> beuno, and that adds another IP address for eth0
[01:52] <ofer0> beuno, then you use BIND9 to create the DNS entries for it. first the SOA for the domain and then something like "ns1.yourdomain.com. IN A ip1.ip1.ip1.ip1" and "ns2.yourdomain.com. IN A ip2.ip2.ip2.ip2"
[01:52] <ANTDx1> Could someone please help walk me through the process to set up my broadcom 4318 wireless card in Ubuntu 6.06 with amd-64
[01:52] <Tokenbad> deltab, so somewhere it is saying some of the space is used even though its not...
[01:52] <ANTDx1> I tried using some instructions on the forum, and ended up being unable to boot, which is bad.
[01:52] <ofer0> beuno, please allow some time for name servers to sync. if you got MX records too, it can take days.
[01:53] <ANTDx1> ndiswrapper kept halting the boot process
[01:53] <jester45> would anyone here be able to help me setup my deskjet 712c i realy need it to work i have a project due and no way to print it
[01:53] <beuno> sethk, it adds the IP to eth0, but I reference it as eth2, right?
[01:53] <berent> sethk:so both eth0 and eth1 have same ip
[01:53] <deltab> beuno: the alias can be a name; it doesn't have to be a number
[01:53] <sethk> beuno, no, eth0:2
[01:53] <sethk> berent, in my example, eth0 and eth0:1 have different IPs
[01:54] <sethk> berent, nothing in my example is about any pair of anything having the same IP
[01:54] <beuno> sethk, that's exactly what I need, 2 different IPs
[01:54] <deltab> or eth0:external, or whatever
[01:54] <darkanyel> how can i use thunar as default and not nautilus????
[01:54] <beuno> this is in /etc/network/interfaces we're talking about, right?
[01:54] <sethk> beuno, right, so both  eth0   and eth0:1   are the eth0 device, but the IPs are different
[01:54] <sethk> beuno, I'm talking about how you actually run the ifconfig command
[01:54] <sethk> beuno, how that translates to the configuration file I would have to check.
[01:55] <sethk> beuno, I don't bother with that, I just add ifconfig's to the end of rc.local
[01:55] <beuno> what about adding it to interfaces so it's there permanenlty?
[01:55] <berent> sethk : so both eth0 eth1 will get consecutive ips
[01:55] <beuno> oh
[01:55] <sethk> beuno, you can do that, I just have to check the syntax
[01:55] <Tokenbad> deltab, this is what cfdisk says: hdd1         Boot         Primary    Linux ext3                          77778.25
[01:55] <Tokenbad>     hdd5                      Logical    Linux ReiserFS                       2245.51
[01:55] <oxyride> ???
[01:55] <sethk> berent, the IPs don't have to be consecutive.  just two arbitrary IPs, totally unrelated to each other
[01:55] <feross> jester45: tried hplip?
[01:56] <sethk> Tokenbad, ah, you've run into the reiserfs bug that everyone yells at me for talking about.
[01:56] <beuno> sethk, would you be so kind?  for cleanness sake
[01:56] <sethk> beuno, I'll look at it, yes.
[01:56] <berent> sethk : if u do ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### then u speify one ip where is the other
[01:56] <highneko> !compiz
[01:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:56] <deltab> Tokenbad: you said "it is saying"  what is saying that?
[01:56] <chrometiger> can someone help me mount my cdrom "well make sure it isn't already working" and make it so its mounted at boot ?
[01:56] <jester45> feross: i will try it
[01:57] <kitche> berent: you will ifconfig eth0:2 for another ip or eth0:0
[01:57] <sethk> berent, you do:    ifconfig eth0 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###    then, you do   ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###
[01:57] <Tokenbad> sethk, well don't know about that...but the drive says basicly that it is has 55 gigs used..when it should only be like 35 gigs used...
[01:57] <sethk> berent, two separate commands
[01:57] <berent> sethk : thanks
[01:57] <sethk> berent, each assigns an IP to eth0
[01:57] <SuperQ> anyone know where mkinird find the list of modules to include?
[01:57] <ofer0> chrometiger, yes, I can help you. Please paste the output of "cat /etc/fstab", "cat /etc/mtab", "mount -l" in pastebin.ca.
[01:57] <Tokenbad> deltab, gparted
[01:57] <sethk> Tokenbad, definitely bad news.
[01:57] <sethk> Tokenbad, back up anything important immediately
[01:58] <berent> sethk : can both of them communicate .will they have different macs or some virtual setting
[01:58] <chrometiger> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:58] <sethk> berent, same MAC
[01:58] <chrometiger> line for cdrom
[01:58] <sethk> berent, remember, at the network layer IP addresses are not used
[01:59] <sethk> berent, both IP addresses map to the same MAC, since they are the same card.
[01:59] <sethk> berent, to make an interface have more than one MAC, you have to modify the device driver
[01:59] <chrometiger> is it already mnt'ed
[01:59] <feross> sethk: hey, you're talking on how to set IP's to the nic but then on reboot it will loose those settings. It can be put into /etc/network/interfaces so that it's there as default if I'm not mistaken.
[01:59] <deltab> chrometiger: the  user,noauto  make it not happen at boot, but allows you to mount it as an ordinary user
[01:59] <sethk> feross, yes, of course
[01:59] <beuno> feross, he did say he added the line in rc.local
[01:59] <deltab> chrometiger: run mount or df to see if it's mounted
[01:59] <sethk> feross, however, that isn't how I do it
[01:59] <berent> sethk : so if u ping ips u will get a dup ack for sure
[02:00] <sethk> berent, nope
[02:00] <sethk> berent, try it.
[02:00] <oxyride> lol
[02:00] <sethk> berent, why would you get a dup ack?
[02:00] <jester45> feross: i searched for hplib and i seen none in the repo should it be in the repo
[02:00] <chrometiger> doing mount doesn't look like it
[02:00] <berent> sethk: won't it refer same mac
[02:00] <sethk> berent, sure, so what?
[02:00] <feross> jester45: it's in your System>admin
[02:00] <sethk> berent, ping just says "IP ##### please respond"
[02:01] <sethk> berent, and IP ##### does.
[02:01] <deltab> chrometiger: mount /dev/hdc  or  mount /media/cdrom0  will mount it now
[02:01] <sethk> berent, you will get the MAC address more than once in the ARP table, but that doesn't hurt anything.
[02:01] <berent> sethk : yeah thats true
[02:01] <chrometiger> no medium found
[02:01] <jester45> feross: o im in xubuntu no body in that channle could help me
[02:02] <JebJoya> final question - how easy is it to go from ubuntu to xubuntu once installed (i presume it's doable in-OS?)
[02:02] <feross> sethk: hmm ok if it's in the rc.local I guess it will work but IMHO putting it in interfaces works better in case you need to netoworking restart *shrug* also just seems cleaner.
[02:02] <DShepherd> hello :-)(
[02:03] <nblit> Q: how do i disable a driver from loading
[02:03] <deltab> chrometiger: if you have a disc in, of course!
[02:03] <nblit> ?
[02:03] <feross> jester45: oh, hmm ok wait a sec
[02:03] <DShepherd> how do i reformat a usb disk to a vfat partition?
[02:03] <sethk> feross, perhaps.  I prefer methods that aren't distro specific.  If I want to restart the interface, I just use the ifconfig command.  I'm not saying my way is better, just that it works.
[02:03] <jester45> feross: sorry for not telling you i was hopeing that iwouldnt need it
[02:03] <chrometiger> got it, um ok so can i make this auto mount or do i have to type that everytime i stick another cd in ?
[02:03] <deltab> DShepherd: what is it currently?
[02:03] <nblit> Q: how do i disable a driver from loading??
[02:04] <Ropechoborra> How do i change the permissions to a directory and all the files in it?
[02:04] <deltab> chrometiger: yes, edit /etc/fstab and change noauto to auto
[02:04] <DShepherd> deltab: not sure.. i think its ext3
[02:04] <ofer0> DShepherd, mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda
[02:04] <chrometiger> thank u
[02:04] <deltab> chrometiger: oh, you mean something else
[02:04] <nblit> Ropechoborra open a terminal and type man chmod
[02:04] <DShepherd> ofer0: thanks
[02:04] <feross> jester45: /usr/bin/hp-toolbox  try that
[02:04] <ofer0> Ropechoborra, chmod -R XXX dir/
[02:04] <deltab> chrometiger: so don't do that, unless you want to mount on boot
[02:04] <Zarephath> Anyone know of a free dynamic dns service that will allow a record to be added for ftp? US only please...I currently use zoneedit..but I can only run mx and A
[02:04] <ofer0> Ropechoborra, XXX = your permissions. for example: 755
[02:04] <Ropechoborra> Thanks
[02:05] <DShepherd> ofer0: its not wise to do this as root if I want other users to use this right?
[02:05] <sethk> nblit, remove it's driver from /lib/modules/xxxxxx     :)
[02:05] <chrometiger> will that hurt anything ?
[02:05] <ofer0> DShepherd, it doesn't matter. it will matter when you'll want to mount it.
[02:05] <feross> sethk: sure :) I can see your point.
[02:05] <sethk> DShepherd, it's not wise to use numbers instead of symbols.
[02:06] <qatsi> ok, i really need help wetting up my network card...can anyone help me ?
[02:06] <deltab> Zarephath: you need an A record
[02:06] <feross> Zarephath: what deltab said... beat me to it :P
[02:06] <ofer0> Zarephath, zonedit, xname
[02:06] <cge> I am trying to test some headphones, and I would like to be able to play a sine wave at different frequencies. Does anyone know an easy way to do this?
[02:06] <ofer0> Zarephath, oh, didn't see there's another line.
[02:06] <Zarephath> deltab: yeah but their web interface doesn't allow me to add an entry for ftp vs...www
[02:07] <nblit> sethk, r u sure?
[02:07] <ofer0> Zarephath, check xname.org, check the option of running your own DNS server.
[02:07] <qatsi> anyone here uses an  Encore ENL832-TX-ICNT Network card??
[02:08] <ninja_monkey> So, there no chance for me with an x64 ubuntu to view flash?
[02:08] <beuno> sethk, I went through the man interfaces(5) and google, and I still can't find anything,  any luck?
[02:08] <Zarephath> ofer0: Kewl thanks...will do appreciate the info all!
[02:08] <sethk> nblit, I'm sure that will work.  I'm not saying it's the right way to do it.
[02:08] <DShepherd> ofer0: how can i give the disk the name?
[02:08] <deltab> Zarephath: what are you trying to do?
[02:08] <ofer0> ninja_monkey, you can run 32bit firefox inside a 32bit chroot() jail.
[02:08] <DShepherd> s/the/name/
[02:08] <DShepherd> err
[02:08] <nblit> sethk, i would prefer doing it the right way
[02:08] <DShepherd> I meant 'a' ofer0
[02:08] <ofer0> DShepherd, I don't understand what you mean
[02:08] <jester45> feross: i see no hp-toolbox
[02:09] <ninja_monkey> ofer0: okey, sounds advanced :)
[02:09] <sethk> beuno, did you try adding an entry exactly like all the others, but using the eth#:# notation?  there is no need for anything in the man page for interfaces to change
[02:09] <xenoNfluX> this may or may not have much to do with Shoutcast specifically.... how might I go about having the Shoutcast server run in the background, or even at boot? (currently I have to do ./sc_serv to run it, and it doesnt drop me back at a bash prompt)
[02:09] <oiad> hi, im trying to compile pyxfce, but get this when doing make http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/NRdXqP48.html
[02:09] <sethk> beuno, all you are doing is using a different interface name.
[02:09] <oldskool3> I'm loading from ubuntu cd, X64.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens.. is it because I have ATi?
[02:09] <nblit> ok
[02:09] <ofer0> ninja_monkey, not at all. use debootstrap to create the chroot. then chroot into it, and install firefox. run it from there. that's all.
[02:09] <nblit> ttl
[02:09] <beuno> sethk, no, I'm a bit afraid I loose remote connection to the datacenter and I can't access the server again  ;D
[02:09] <jrib> !info  python-xfce
[02:09] <ubotu> Package python-xfce does not exist in any distro I know
[02:09] <deltab> sethk: note the alias doesn't have to be a number, as you're implying
[02:10] <sethk> deltab, I didn't imply anything
[02:10] <DShepherd> ofer0: by defualt when formatting the disk it is called 'usbdisk'.
[02:10] <deltab> seemed to be implying
[02:10] <DShepherd> ofer0: is there a way to specify a name
[02:10] <feross> jester45: install hplip
[02:10] <sethk> deltab, although, I admit, I can't see any reason for using anything other than a number, but if you like using something else, have fun
[02:10] <oiad> jrib thats why im trying to compile it?
[02:10] <media_> Is there an X command to get the current resolution?  I need to get those values so I can force firefox to start full screen regardless what resolution I may have started up as (for a media system)
[02:10] <ninja_monkey> ofer0: Right, before I do anything I feel I have to read some before I do anything. What's debootstrap?
[02:11] <ofer0> ninja_monkey, it is used to download a debian system into a chrootable directory
[02:11] <jester45> feross: i dont see it in the repos do i have to get it from the web?
[02:11] <feross> !hpliy
[02:11] <deltab> sethk: doing so might lessen the confusion between eth0:1 and eth1
[02:11] <sethk> deltab, eth0, eth1, etc., don't have to be numbers either, but you to keep oneself sane ...
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hpliy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <jrib> oiad: yes, I know :)  It showed up in edgy though so I thought it would probably be there in dapper.  Can you translate your error to english?
[02:11] <beuno> sethk, how does this look to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25706/
[02:11] <sethk> deltab, I'm not confused, but ok.  :)
[02:11] <feross> !hplip
[02:11] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[02:11] <sethk> deltab, that's a point
[02:11] <oiad> ah sorry
[02:11] <deltab> sethk: not you
[02:11] <ofer0> DShepherd, not that I know of. I'm not a graphics designer, I'm a system adminstrator and programmer. I don't care how the disk is called.
[02:12] <sethk> deltab, yes, I know what you meant.  I hadn't thought about it, but I don't disagree with you.
[02:12] <DShepherd> ofer0: ok kool
[02:12] <jester45> i will check again
[02:12] <DShepherd> ofer0: thanks anyways.. lata man
[02:12] <ofer0> DShepherd, cya around
[02:12] <feross> jester45: hmm looks like it's in main should be there
[02:12] <deltab> I think it's possible to add multiple addresses to one interface too
[02:12] <sethk> beuno, I'd leave out the network, broadcast, gateway, and dns part
[02:12] <xenoNfluX> how might I go about having a server application run in the background or run at boot?
[02:13] <sethk> deltab, I don't see how.  if it is possible, it would be a very bad idea to do so.
[02:13] <jester45> xenoNfluX: what kind of sever app
[02:13] <sethk> beuno, you don't need routing for machines on the same subnet, and it would be unusual to need routing for an alias.
[02:13] <oldskool3> I'm loading from ubuntu cd, X64.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens. Is it because I have ATi?
[02:13] <ace> hello can someone help explain to me how to exit the menu that shows up when my comptuer boots up? (I guess the grub menu?)
[02:13] <ace> edit*
[02:13] <xenoNfluX> jester45, Shoutcast
[02:13] <jrib> ace: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:13] <sethk> beuno, I'd make eth0:1 have only the address and netmask parameters
[02:13] <ace> jrib: thanks
[02:14] <ofer0> ace, what do you mean by "exit the menu"? if you exit the menu you won't have an O.S. running
[02:14] <ninja_monkey> Is there a way to disable the "tap to click"-feature on the touchpad?
[02:14] <beuno> and on the first line, where I set auto lo eth0 eth1 eth2
[02:14] <DShepherd> exirt
[02:14] <jester45> xenoNfluX: i dont know about that i think there is a setting to auto load programs at system start
[02:14] <DShepherd> exit
[02:14] <beuno> I should set eth0:1, right?
[02:14] <ace> jrib: it said permissin benied
[02:14] <ace> denied*
[02:14] <xenoNfluX> jester45, I know how to configure and run it... I'm just wondering if I can run it in the background and at startup
[02:14] <jrib> ace: use a text-editor and sudo to edit it
[02:14] <xenoNfluX> hm
[02:14] <jrib> ubotu: tell ace about sudo
[02:15] <jrib> ace: what do you want to do exactly?
[02:15] <deltab> sethk: ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev lo
[02:15] <xenoNfluX> I'll see if I can dig up info on setting cronjobs on boot
[02:15] <ace> jrib: I want to take away one of the options when I updated ubuntu it added another ubuntu
[02:15] <ace> Jrib: like one for the old ubuntu and one for the updated ubuntu
[02:15] <ofer0> xenoNfluX, yes. TIMTOWTDI. anyway, you can symlink it to /etc/rc2.d/S99something
[02:15] <oiad> jrib http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/LysqpD35.html
[02:15] <sethk> deltab, I would have to see what ifconfig command you are really talking about.  I don't wade through the macros to see what that actuallyl does.
[02:15] <sethk> deltab, however, as I said, if it is possible, it is an extremely bad idea.
[02:16] <oiad> this is the ./configure output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/X7ScwB72.html
[02:16] <jrib> ace: you should be able to just remove the old kernel package (linux-image-*), but it is a good idea to keep 2 around imo.  One you know that works from before, and the new one
[02:16] <deltab> sethk: macros?
[02:16] <ace> Jrib: oo ok I just needed want it taking up to much space
[02:16] <ace> didnt* please excuse my typing
[02:16] <sethk> deltab, macros.  the things down in the rc.d directory, various scripts and such, that take the config files and other inputs and produce the ifconfig commands, which is what the o/s actually understands
[02:17] <matt8806suomi> how big should ubuntu be after install
[02:17] <beuno> sethk, I tried it on a different server (local), and I get this:    /etc/network/interfaces:15: duplicate option
[02:17] <jester45> feross: what about hp-ppd
[02:17] <deltab> sethk: oh, I'm not using those
[02:17] <sethk> beuno, ok, I would have to figure it out.  since my problem is solved with the ifconfig, I've never been motivated to do so.
[02:17] <feross> jester45: not sure.. what does man hp-ppd say?
[02:17] <ofer0> ace, it is the best for you to keep ALL old kernels, unless you have a good reason to not do so. maybe now you don't need it - but when you'll have kernel problems you'll be sorry about it.
[02:18] <jester45> HP Postscript Printer Definition (PPD) files'
[02:18] <sethk> deltab, oh, you are using the ip binary, sorry, didn't read carefully enough
[02:18] <beuno> sethk, I guess I can do it with ifconfig then for now, what was the command again?
[02:18] <ace> ofer0: ok thanks for the advice ill be sure not to mess with it or anything
[02:18] <oldskool3> I'm loading from ubuntu cd, ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso.. but after "starting kernel.log" nothing happens. Is it because I have ATi?
[02:18] <deltab> sethk: I don't think ifconfig supports it
[02:18] <sethk> beuno, ifconfig eth0:1 ###.###.###.### netmask ###.###.###.###   (eth0:1 is for example; as has been pointed out, the syntax is eth0:anything)
[02:18] <sethk> deltab, of course it does.  I do it every day.
[02:18] <ofer0> ace, you can remove REALLY REALLY old entries by commenting them out on /boot/grub/menu.lst, but don't do anything further unless you have a good reason.
[02:18] <larryw> set timestamp_string =
[02:19] <beuno> waaaait
[02:19] <beuno> my mistake
[02:19] <beuno> it DOES work
[02:19] <sethk> beuno, oh, good.  Now we know.  :)
[02:19] <deltab> sethk: adding multiple addresses to one interface?
[02:19] <ace> ofer): oo ok I dont really have any really really old entries
[02:19] <beuno> I mistiped "iface"
[02:19] <sethk> deltab, no, using aliases.
[02:19] <jrib> oiad: I'm not sure what is going on there, but I can suggest that you download the source package for edgy and try compiling that instead
[02:19] <deltab> sethk: ah, I wasn't talking about aliases
[02:19] <feross> jester45: it might be e depend to hplip but it probably won't work on it's own. Weird that you can't get hplip, no xfce interface for it? I use gnome so I wouldn't know, you'll have to do some research on that and if necessary download and install hplip manually.
[02:19] <sethk> deltab, I thought you meant ifconfig doesn't support aliases.  I'm half asleep  :)
[02:19] <ace> ofer0: what if i commented it out, could I use a livecd and change it back if my current kernel got messed up?
[02:20] <matt8806suomi> ####how big should ubuntu be after install####
[02:20] <sethk> ace, sure
[02:20] <oiad> thanks jrib
[02:20] <deltab> sethk: actually, when I used its add command, it created an alias
[02:20] <ofer0> ace, so don't touch it for now. you are going to do something which is very dangerous. if you comment it out, you can use GRUB itself to remove your comments, with the "edit" option. nice and easy.
[02:20] <jester45> feross: think this could work? libprinterconf0c2a - Printer autodetection library
[02:20] <sethk> deltab, ok, that makes sense.
[02:20] <ace> oferO: OO ok yea i dont wanna do ti then
[02:21] <feross> jester45: nah, same as hp-ppd
[02:21] <ace> oferO: ok thanks for your help!
[02:21] <beuno> sethk, thank you VERY much
[02:21] <ofer0> ace, have fun.
[02:21] <sethk> beuno, np
[02:21] <deltab> and ifconfig can't see past the first address assigned to the interface
[02:21] <ofer0> deltab, /proc can
[02:22] <feross> jester45: usually hplip is installed by default. I know I've had to turn off the service just so it's not sucking up cpu cycles in the background. I don't havy any printer setup on the lappy I'm on. Also turned off cups.
[02:22] <jester45> feross: they have things for the officejet and lasrjet but not deskjet :(
[02:22] <deltab> sure, but my point is that ifconfig only allows access to some of what's possible
[02:23] <ninja_monkey> is there a way to check and see if another application has locked an administration path?
[02:23] <ninja_monkey> err.. directory
[02:23] <ofer0> ninja_monkey, what is an admin dir ?
[02:23] <ofer0> ninja_monkey, and why would anybody lock it?
[02:23] <knut_> need help by configuring opera 9 for my 64bit system
[02:23] <knut_> dont know how to run the 32bit one
[02:23] <deltab> Tokenbad: backed up your important files?
[02:24] <bashusr> hey... can i install ubuntu from another distro?
[02:24] <bashusr> or from an old ubuntu live CD?
[02:24] <Tokenbad> deltab, not yet...was hoping not have to do that
[02:24] <bashusr> i got a real old one... ubuntu 4...
[02:24] <feross> jester45: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184838  read there
[02:25] <Dr_willis> bashusr,  ick.
[02:25] <ninja_monkey> ofer0: Well.. don't ask me, I just installed Ubuntu :) I tried to go "sudo apt-get install xx" but I got an error message saying "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proccess using ut?"
[02:25] <deltab> Tokenbad: it's a good thing to do anyway, especially when doing things affected filesystems and disks
[02:25] <bashusr> Dr_willis: yeah. help? :-P
[02:25] <Dr_willis> bashusr,  it  may be possible - but it sure wouldent be trivial
[02:25] <deltab> ^afffecting
[02:25] <ofer0> ninja_monkey, yes, you probably have synaptic running.
[02:25] <ofer0> ninja_monkey, the program that installs other applications
[02:25] <ninja_monkey> Ah, yea, thanks..
[02:25] <Dr_willis> bashusr,  that 'ubuntu hacks' book mentioned using debootstrap  for a xen install.. but ive never tried it.
[02:26] <ninja_monkey> ofer0: works, thanks.
[02:26] <bashusr> Dr_willis: command line trivial... or manually partitioning, installing GRUB, and making my own kernel trivial?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> bashusr,  all of those are rather trivial. :P
[02:26] <bashusr> Dr_willis: uh...
[02:26] <deltab> apt-get could tell you what program's got the lock
[02:26] <reter> if your system saids its broken what do you do?
[02:26] <bashusr> Dr_willis: what kinda trivial are you talking about?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> bashusr,   ive never used debootstrap which i would THINK would be the way to do that..
[02:26] <jsleeper> anyone running ubuntu on a sun blade 100?
[02:27] <Dr_willis> bashusr,  may want to check the forums/wikis - they may have some detailed docs.
[02:27] <Dr_willis> bashusr,  it may be possible if you had more then 1 machine to get an iso, and do a net boot/install..   but  not sure why you are  needing to go about this in such a hard way.
[02:28] <knut_> why does nobody help me :(
[02:28] <knut_> damn support
[02:28] <lmosher> Is there any way to connect to a wireless access point using WPA or WPA2? The only key options I see in the wireless GUI are for WEP
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> knut_, first ... its possible that nobody got 64 bit here ... at least those who are alive .. second we are not support .. we are volunteer helpers
[02:29] <Pierre> knut_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava should work for opera as well
[02:29] <kitche> lmosher: yes make sure you have wpa_supplicant installed
[02:29] <SuperQ> lmosher: you need a wpa config
[02:29] <sbor7052> I have a quick and dirty question, can someone direct me to a resource for managing users/groups etc from the command line? Yes, I know google exists, I am looking for somethign ubuntu specific
[02:29] <feross> lmosher: go to  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com  .. have a minihowto for WPA.
[02:30] <lmosher> kitche, SuperQ ok I've installed both of those (well apt is currently crunching) after that?
[02:30] <lmosher> ah ok thanks feross
[02:30] <M_Fatih> hi all. when i try to copy a dvd iso file (4.4GB) cp and mv commands error like this "File size limit exceeded" how can i copm/move my files?
[02:30] <jester45> feross: q thanksfor you help i really need to srt looking at the ubuntu site more hopefully i dont need to come back
[02:31] <kitche> M_Faith: fat32?
[02:31] <mjr> M_Fatih, you're probably trying to copy to a fat partition. It won't happen.
[02:31] <chupacabra> what are the keystrokes for changing desktops in Gnome?
[02:31] <ofer0> chupacabra, ctrl+alt+left/right
[02:31] <ofer0> chupacabra, ctrl+alt+left/right/up/down
[02:31] <bruenig> chupacabra, you mean workspaces?
[02:31] <M_Fatih> mjr, :(( yes :( so, i can't do it..
[02:31] <A-L-P-H-A> what's a cli random password generator for linux called?
[02:31] <ofer0> A-L-P-H-A, pwgen
[02:32] <A-L-P-H-A> ofer0, thanks
[02:32] <ofer0> A-L-P-H-A, have fun
[02:32] <sbor7052> I have a quick and dirty question, can someone direct me to a resource for managing users/groups etc from the command line? Yes, I know google exists, I am looking for somethign ubuntu specific
[02:32] <chupacabra> sweet.  xfce is ctl 1,2,3,4
[02:32] <A-L-P-H-A> ofer0, I'll try... :)
[02:32] <M_Fatih> mjr, can i copy 2.5GB file? if i split this flie and copy to fat part.. is it possible?
[02:32] <jbjuly> how do I use generic names in desktop menus?
[02:32] <jrib> sbor7052: adduser, but it's not ubuntu specific
[02:32] <codecaine> anyone know what gedit key bindings are?
[02:32] <knut_> mh
[02:32] <chupacabra> just more places to run EWterm
[02:32] <ofer0> sbor7052, ubuntu specific? don't know anything about it. just use "adduser addgroup usermod groupmod passwd gpasswd"
[02:32] <mjr> M_Fatih, yes
[02:32] <xenoNfluX> could anyone help me figure out the syntax for writing a tiny boot script?
[02:32] <chupacabra> Eterm
[02:33] <Tokenbad> deltab, I know but when not have disk to burn to...or space to backup to
[02:33] <sbor7052> ofer: ty what I was looking for
[02:33] <M_Fatih> mjr, yeha.. i'm tryin.. thanks body
[02:33] <knut_> pierre im using firefox, but i want opera '-.-
[02:33] <codecaine> Anyone in here able to help me figure out what the key bindings are in gedit for editing files?
[02:33] <bruenig> knut_, sudo apt-get install opera
[02:33] <feross> xenoNfluX: first line '#!/bin/bash'  then commands after it.. save the text file then 'chmod +x filename' then ./filename to execute.
[02:34] <bashusr> fine fine
[02:34] <knut_> gives an error bruinig
[02:34] <bashusr> i'll waste a CD
[02:34] <knut_> too old version
[02:34] <bashusr> and burn
[02:34] <xenoNfluX> feross, thanks, will try
[02:34] <bashusr> burn burn burn baby!
[02:34] <Pierre> knut_: can you please *read* this page? it describes the way to configure linux32, it should work as well for opera.
[02:34] <jbjuly> how do I use generic names in desktop menus?
[02:34] <deltab> Tokenbad: okay, at least run ls -lR
[02:34] <knut_> okay, then i try it, thx pierre.. :)
[02:35] <feross> jbjuly: hmm. can you be more specific?
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> jbjuly, pls defind generic .. and give us an example ?
[02:35] <knut_> but now i have to go to bed
[02:35] <knut_> thank you and good night, byby!
[02:36] <jbjuly> I want to use "Web Browser" instead of "Firefox Web Browser" I saw the .desktop file and there's a defined Name= and GenericName=, I want to use the GenericName
[02:36] <qatsi> i need help with a Encore network card, please help me...it wont install/start
[02:37] <matt8806suomi> ##How do i play WMV files in ubuntu (gnome)
[02:37] <qatsi> ....
[02:37] <jrib> ubotu: tell matt8806suomi about wmv
[02:37] <Lilandra> Hi
[02:37] <Darkazel> hey
[02:38] <sethk> brb, dog walking
[02:38] <Darkazel> alguien habla espagnol_
[02:38] <jrib> !es
[02:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:38] <M_Fatih> another question : how can i rip my dvd's to xvid or divx (any good compression types)?
[02:38] <Darkazel> ok thx
[02:38] <qatsi> Darkazel: yo, but its better that we go to the es channel...
[02:38] <feross> qatsi: google says you need to compile drivers manually
[02:38] <xenoNfluX> feross, that worked... thanks... another quick Q, is there a way I could get an app to run in the background? The script executed on boot just fine, but it takes over my boot screen (and since its running server, it doesnt give me a bash prompt unless I SSH in)
[02:38] <Celeste> hi
[02:38] <Lilandra> Does anyone know why azureus depends on mozilla-browser?
[02:38] <Dr_willis> !info dvdrip
[02:39] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> jbjuly, eh ah ... then change the name to the name you wish to be ? btw if you use firefox pls admit you are using firefox .. i think its only fair to the developers
[02:39] <qatsi> feross: yes, i did that, and the network worked, i updated my system, but when i rebooted it wouldnt start/work..
[02:39] <Celeste> is there an inofficial apt-get server which offers a package for "xpde" (thats a windows manager or maybe desktop environment)
[02:39] <Tokenbad> deltab, from what dir
[02:39] <Dr_willis> xpde - ICK. :P
[02:39] <Dr_willis> lol
[02:39] <Dr_willis> !info xpde
[02:39] <ubotu> Package xpde does not exist in any distro I know
[02:39] <feross> qatsi: you need to do the install again as you did the first time.
[02:40] <matt8806suomi> jrib: thanks
[02:40] <Celeste> Dr_willis, I need this for an internet cafe
[02:40] <Tokenbad> deltab, and what does it do?
[02:40] <qatsi> feross: every time i need to run the card ?
[02:40] <Celeste> Dr_willis, myself, I will use KDE ;)
[02:40] <Dr_willis> Celeste,  last i used xpde - it wasent even useable.. it was so... nasty
[02:40] <ofer0> Celeste, maybe XFCE ?
[02:40] <feross> qatsi: no every time the kernel updates.
[02:40] <Dr_willis> Celeste,  icewm + a windows95 theme is a better choice...
[02:40] <deltab> Tokenbad: list all files, recursively
[02:40] <Dr_willis> or jwm, or some other window manager
[02:40] <Tokenbad> deltab, ok why would I do that? to check files?
[02:40] <qatsi> feross: uhmm, ok...il try doing the same thank you
[02:41] <Darkazel> nobody in the ubuntu-es
[02:41] <ofer0> you can have icewm with redmondxp theme
[02:41] <ofer0> you'll even have the "Start" button!
[02:41] <deltab> Tokenbad: the idea is to visit each directory in the filesystem, to make sure it's reachable and doesn't contain junk
[02:41] <Dr_willis> or theres even some kde taskbars and themes that make it more windowish
[02:41] <feross> xenoNfluX: If you put an & it will put it in the background
[02:41] <Celeste> ok I will try out all your ideas Dr_willis. and ofer0
[02:41] <Darkazel> well somebody knows where i can download the drivers for my motherboard???
[02:41] <deltab> Tokenbad: or you could run fsck again
[02:41] <qatsi> Darkazel: i suggest driverguide.com
[02:42] <Celeste> Dr_willis, I will rejoin the kde channel for asking you a question there
[02:42] <xenoNfluX> feross, like "./sc_serv &" ?
[02:42] <ofer0> Darkazel, maybe from your drivers manufactor official website?
[02:42] <feross> xenoNfluX: right
[02:42] <xenoNfluX> feross, thanks again :)
[02:42] <Darkazel> ok.. but ubuntu support??
[02:42] <ofer0> Darkazel, s/drivers/hardware/ # I'm tired.
[02:42] <ofer0> Darkazel, maybe, we'll going to have to check. which motherboard model are we talking about?
[02:42] <Darkazel> u8668 grand...
[02:43] <jbjuly> wickedpuppy: is there any keyword just to insert so it will use the GenericName?
[02:43] <PauloFurquim> Pls somebody knows how I start a maxell flash drive stick under ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[02:43] <qatsi> PauloFurquim: it should start automatically
[02:44] <Darkazel> its my first time in this ... someone can help me?
[02:44] <lmosher> I jujst installed networkmanager. WHen I left click on this I do not see an option "connect to other wireless network"... why?
[02:44] <highneko> How can I find out what my video card version is?
[02:44] <ofer0> Darkazel, unfortunately, your hardware manufactor didn't bother to create drivers for linux too, so you'll have to improvise something.
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> jbjuly, no ... from what i seen the name of the program is the name you will see ... create a shortcut on the panel on the top and right click on it .. and play with it .. btw why are you against the names ? i don't feel very good honestly ..
[02:44] <jbjuly> can someone share the /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ directory that SLED 10 use?
[02:44] <lmosher> my wireless card is eth1, not wlan0... it's an intel prowireless.
[02:45] <pooh_beawr_> what do you think the best alternative to amarok is?
[02:45] <Darkazel> ok...
[02:45] <mistraal> is there any way of determining what packages were installed in the last update?
[02:45] <qatsi> Darkazel: checa la pestana
[02:45] <jbjuly> wickedpuppy: no, I just want to know how it looks like when I use GenericName
[02:45] <Darkazel> ?
[02:45] <codecaine> I am looking for gedit keybindings, can anyone help me?  I want to know what keys do what while editing files.
[02:45] <Darkazel> cual pestagna_
[02:45] <ofer0> mistraal, yes, you can read the APT logfile.
[02:45] <bimberi> mistraal: look in /var/log/dpkg.log
[02:45] <mistraal> thx
[02:45] <Harksaw> dumb question: how do you take a screenshot in ubuntu?
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> jbjuly, then just change the name to the name you wish ... then revert back ... simple
[02:45] <ofer0> Harksaw, you can use "scrot"
[02:45] <PauloFurquim> qatsi, I plug into usb and nothing happens...
[02:45] <ofer0> Harksaw, sudo aptitude install scrot
[02:45] <bimberi> Harksaw: hit the Print Screen button
[02:46] <qatsi> Darkazel: te envie un mensaje personal, seguro se abrio en una penstana (si usas GAIM) o en otra ventana, si usas otro IRC
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> Harksaw, application -> accessories -> take screen shot
[02:46] <Harksaw> ahhh, i was trying ctrl+print scr
[02:46] <jbjuly> wickedpuppy: thanks!, IMO, there's should be a way to do it, I guess it's not proposed yet
[02:46] <qatsi> PauloFurquim: check if the usb works, else try to mout it manually
[02:46] <Harksaw> thanks
[02:46] <bimberi> Harksaw: unlearn that windows :)
[02:46] <bimberi> Harksaw: np :)
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> jbjuly, nobody will propose and nobody will implement it ... can you imagine photoshop icon saying photo editing software ?
[02:47] <ArrenLex> Harksaw: why don't you just press print screen? Honestly? Can anyone even begin to justify the purpose of using a program to take a screenshot?
[02:47] <martalli> What is the apt-get equivalent of the ubuntu update manager?  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade or apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> ArrenLex, actually i wonder why is it in the program listing ... lol
[02:48] <Harksaw> ArrenLex, I sure can't
[02:48] <jrib> martalli: upgrade
[02:48] <martalli> thanks
[02:48] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  seen them used in an automated way to make a 'animation' of some task. :P
[02:49] <ArrenLex> martalli: If you use upgrade, it won't install packages if you need to install new packages to update them: i.e. if when going from foobar v2 to foobar v3 you added a new dependency and have to install the sithblob package too. dist-upgrade would also install sithblob.
[02:49] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: well sure, but that doesn't seem to be what he's after.
[02:49] <Lilandra> Hi, is gij sun java?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> Lilandra,  No its not.
[02:49] <ArrenLex> Lilandra: no; GNU interpreter for Java
[02:49] <Lilandra> ok
[02:49] <ArrenLex> Interpreter *
[02:49] <jbjuly> Is there a sled 10 channel in freenode, I want to ask them fo send me theri /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ so I can use it with ubuntu. I saw gnome-main-menu in edgy repository.
[02:49] <Lilandra> is there Sun Java for ppc linux?
[02:50] <martalli> So for a conservative system (like my partner's computer he uses for typing and firefox, I should just stick to upgrade.
[02:50] <Celeste> I need to restart
[02:50] <Celeste> will be back soon
[02:50] <lmosher> Can anyone help me figure out how to install WPA?
[02:50] <derekS> is it possible to use fetchmail to download (via pop or imap) a subdir of a maildir?
[02:50] <ArrenLex> martalli: whatever suits your needs.
[02:51] <martalli> thanks for the advice, guys
[02:51] <qatsi> is there a reverse function to insmod ? like, to delete a model from the kernel ?
[02:51] <deltab> derekS: if the server makes it available, it should be possible
[02:51] <deltab> qatsi: rmmod
[02:51] <derekS> deltab: how?
[02:51] <qatsi> deltab: thanks, ill try it :)
[02:51] <derekS> on a gui imap client, it works....
[02:52] <deltab> derekS: by subdir I presume you mean a nested maildir, and not one of the tmp, new, cur dirs that make up a maildir
[02:53] <qatsi> ok, now my network card is working...:) lets see if it works after reboot :p
[02:53] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having problem with php. Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0 what does this mean.
[02:54] <derekS> deltab: thats what i do mean
[02:55] <sethk> MrKeuner, line 0 in unknown means it doesn't know what file and it doesn't know what line
[02:56] <sethk> MrKeuner, failed to open stream probably means that it tried to create a pipe and didn't have the privileges, but that's just an educated guess.
[02:56] <sethk> MrKeuner, heavier on the guess side than the educated side
[02:56] <derekS> deltab: any suggestions?
[02:56] <SkramX> i am on hoary right now.. can i upgrade to dapper without reinstalling?
[02:57] <sethk> derekS, if you don't mind a bit of programming, you could do it in python using an imap library.
[02:57] <sethk> derekS, I imagine perl has the same capability
[02:57] <feross> SkramX: you should be able to change your sources.list to point to dapper then do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ..
[02:58] <derekS> sethk: it can't be done with fetchmail?
[02:58] <SkramX> feross: okay
[02:58] <SkramX> will do
[02:58] <deltab> derekS: folder, -r
[02:58] <derekS> ahh nice
[02:58] <derekS> thanks
[02:58] <qatsi> ok, i have a crappy network card, and every time i reboot, i have to do sudo rmmod sundance.ko and then insmod ./sundance.ko and then it works. I could simply do a script that executes everytime i boot, but...i think theres another way around, could ou think of any ? thank you
[02:58] <feross> SkramX: well remember to do an 'apt-get update' once the source.list is changed then the dist-upgrade
[02:58] <sethk> derekS, not sure
[02:58] <SkramX> okay
[02:59] <ArrenLex> Skram: of course:
[02:59] <ArrenLex> sudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:59] <Tokenbad> deltab, this was at the end of the fsck:  /dev/hdd1: 4315/6144000 files (8.0% non-contiguous), 7880753/12264704 blocks
[02:59] <qatsi> deltab: every time i reboot, i have to do sudo rmmod sundance.ko and then insmod ./sundance.ko to make my network cad work. I could simply do a script that executes everytime i boot, but...i think theres another way around, could you think of any ? thank you
[03:01] <SkramX> wow.. 500mb of updates from hoary => dapper
[03:01] <deltab> Tokenbad: any errors?
[03:01] <harisund> has anybody used the ROPE programming language on Ubuntu?
[03:02] <deltab> qatsi: I think there's a config file that affects the order modules are loaded in
[03:02] <larryw> hi
[03:02] <dementt> Evenings
[03:03] <dementt> Here we go again, Ubuntu install just burning ^^
[03:03] <qatsi> deltab: you think the order is the one who is making me cry?...ok, ill check if I find anything, if i do, ill break a BIG hole in hardware with these encore cards...:) thank you
[03:03] <godtvisk1n> What is a good dvd ripping program?
[03:03] <ArrenLex> MPlayer! :D
[03:03] <bruenig> godtvisk1n, you assume there is one?
[03:03] <dementt> Hey, how are the ATI-drivers doing nowadays?
[03:03] <SkramX> this'll take a while.. 500mb updates for this ubuntu box to go from 5.1 to 6.06
[03:03] <dementt> I heard that lot better
[03:04] <godtvisk1n> bruenig: at least one that is better than others
[03:04] <deltab> qatsi: I guess so, since removing and re-adding the driver makes it work, it may be being loaded too early
[03:04] <qatsi> deltab: so, you dont have any idea what file is that ?
[03:04] <deltab> or are you loading a different sundance.ko?
[03:04] <ArrenLex> demnett: poorly. I can't use them.
[03:05] <jmerlin> Uncompressing Lexmark Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 
[03:05] <jmerlin> how do i print with that now?
[03:05] <dementt> ArrenLex what card do you have?
[03:05] <ArrenLex> demnett: 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] 
[03:05] <Tokenbad> deltab, not that I saw....but gparted still shows only 55 gigs
[03:05] <jmerlin> Uncompressing Lexmark Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 
[03:05] <jmerlin> how do i print with that now?
[03:06] <dementt> ArrenLex aight, I am having X800 so lets hope there is some difference ^^
[03:06] <qatsi> deltab: nope, its the same one, i just unload it, and re-load it...
[03:09] <qatsi> deltab: if i do lsmod ! grep sundance it displays the information and says: used by 0, but its being used by...at least 1
[03:10] <deltab> qatsi: if you can remove it, it's not being used
[03:10] <imperfect-> Anyone here familiar w/ using nvidia drivers with TV out?
[03:10] <sethk> qatsi, you can try moving the module up to an earlier position in /etc/modules
[03:10] <imperfect-> My color is fine until I load X then it has a nasty hue
[03:11] <sethk> qatsi, you can rebuild the kernel with the driver compiled in, instead of using a module for the driver
[03:11] <qatsi> sethk: ok, i just added it to etc/modules at the bottom, ill try adding it to the top, and see if it works...
[03:11] <sethk> qatsi, ok, there's a chance it will help, but I'm not putting any money on it  :)
[03:11] <qatsi> sethk: ok, so if i rebuild the kernel witth the module in it, it wont be a module anymore ?
[03:11] <sethk> qatsi, right, it will be part of the kernel image
[03:12] <sethk> qatsi, which guarantees that it's available when needed.
[03:12] <highneko> xgl uses 95% cpu. Is it fixable?!
[03:12] <qatsi> sethk: darn sethk, any help is welcome, with this crappy card, anything that works...
[03:12] <ArrenLex> highneko: is the performance decent or is it slow?
[03:12] <highneko> It's ok until I open windows.
[03:12] <ArrenLex> xD
[03:12] <highneko> I can use menus!
[03:13] <ninja_monkey> How can I delete all files of a package I installed, including it's configfiles?
[03:13] <sethk> highneko, who needs windows, anyway?
[03:13] <ArrenLex> Highneko: run the command "glxinfo | grep renderer" and paste the result.
[03:13] <qatsi> sethk: ok, after reboot, now i have two modules, sundance and mii, sundance says its not being used by anyone, but mii is being used by...1, sundance :P pretty strange...
[03:13] <chrisg> hey all
[03:13] <ArrenLex> ninjamonkey: apt-get remove --purge <package>
[03:13] <chrisg> the only difference between ubuntu, and kbuntu is kbuntu uses kde right?
[03:13] <ArrenLex> chrisg: yes.
[03:13] <ArrenLex> And it's kubuntu.
[03:13] <chrisg> that is literally the ONLY difference?
[03:13] <highneko> ArrenLex: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 20050225
[03:13] <ArrenLex> chrisg: yes.
[03:14] <ArrenLex> highneko: You have an integrated card?
[03:14] <chrisg> hmm, so ubuntu cant run KDE?
[03:14] <ninja_monkey>  ArrenLex, does that include all packages that got installed with it?
[03:14] <chrisg> like if i wanted to try both?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> chrisg: different programs (kde versions)
[03:14] <ArrenLex> chrisg: of course it can.
[03:14] <highneko> ArrenLex: I do'nt know.
[03:14] <ArrenLex> ninja: no. For that, you have to install packages with aptitude.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> chrisg: you can have both
[03:14] <chrisg> hmm
[03:14] <qatsi> Today a guy asked if i could get an illegal copy of Ubuntu, because it was too expensive....:s !
[03:14] <chrisg> so then what exactly is the difference?
[03:14] <chrisg> just by default it uses kde?
[03:14] <ninja_monkey> ArrenLex: thanks.
[03:14] <Ranbee> hi, does truecrypt have a gui?
[03:14] <ArrenLex> chrisg: yes.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> chrisg: the basic is gnome is gtk libs and kde is qt libs
[03:15] <chrisg> hmm
[03:15] <sethk> qatsi, tell him yes, but there is a small charge
[03:15] <qatsi> sethk: haha, i told him he was the owner, he could do whatever he wanted...i think i scared him :p
[03:15] <sethk> chrisg, I use the regular ubuntu cd, then install KDE afterwards
[03:15] <ArrenLex> This is for everyone with Flash installed, who wants to be amused ->> http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54&swfSize=2
[03:15] <chrisg> so for a 2.0ghz, 1gig ram, geforce fx 5900xt 128mb... which would you guys prefer?
[03:15] <sethk> chrisg, that's exactly the same as using the kubuntu install.
[03:16] <sethk> chrisg, that hardware can easily handle either one
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ArrenLex: please post that in #ubuntu-offtopic instead of here
[03:16] <ArrenLex> Yessir. Sorry sir.
[03:16] <sethk> chrisg, I prefer KDE, although that's a minority view here.  best thing to do is to try both yourself.
[03:16] <dementt> gnome ftw
[03:16] <dementt> ^^
[03:16] <chrisg> yea... ok thanks a bunch guys
[03:16] <dementt> Had to blast, we all have our opinions
[03:16] <brandon_> is anybody running dapper right now?
[03:16] <Dr_willis> I  perfer KDE. :P
[03:16] <ArrenLex> KDE is life.
[03:16] <ArrenLex> brandon: almost everyone here is.
[03:17] <Dr_willis> brandon_,  a lot of us i would guess.
[03:17] <brandon_> can you check your system/administration menu and see if there's a "disks" option?
[03:17] <highneko> Yes, there is for me.
[03:17] <brandon_> fire up the menu editor and check what command is being run there?
[03:17] <foo> hm, my sound stopped working. Any ideas? I tried to restart alsa-utils but that didn't do anything. lsof|grep dsp returned nothing. hmm
[03:18] <highneko> gksu disks-admin
[03:18] <yip> Hi all, I do not know if this question should ask in here. I am sorry about this. I am looking for a help on starting emacs on remote machine through SSH
[03:18] <rahmiel> To enable 1280x1024 resolution, do I just need to add it to the modes in my xorg.conf or is there another way?
[03:19] <qatsi> is there a log of the order in which the modules where loaded ?
[03:19] <bruenig> !xconfig
[03:19] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:20] <jmerlin> what version of CUPS is packaged with ubuntu 6.06
[03:20] <shriphani> guys i cant partition my drive
[03:20] <DarkMageZ> can anyone recommend a directconnect (dc++) client for ubuntu?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> bruenig: the menu editor is alacarte that should also be the command
[03:20] <jmerlin> shriphani, you can, you're just not trying hard enough.
[03:20] <shriphani> huh
[03:20] <shriphani> i think i am
[03:21] <bruenig> gnomefreak, to what are you referring. I was throwing tha tout for rahmiel who wanted to change his resolution
[03:21] <shriphani> i ran the live cd
[03:21] <gnomefreak> oh
[03:21] <shriphani> asked it partition
[03:21] <rahmiel> Thank you bruenig.
[03:21] <yip> My question is. when I type >emacs filename on a remote machine. I am on a terminal emacs interface instead of the emacs21 GUI i install on my machine. Is there a way to set up emacs so that. It start the GUI emacs instead of the terminal base one
[03:21] <shriphani> after a good 20 mins it says opeation failed
[03:21] <Dr_willis> yip how are you getting to the remote machine?
[03:21] <yip> ssh Dr_willis
[03:21] <Amaranth> yip: Only if the remote system has X and Xemacs installed.
[03:22] <Amaranth> yip: Not likely for a server.
[03:22] <yip> Oh i see
[03:22] <yip> so that's not my setting
[03:22] <Amaranth> nope
[03:22] <yip> that's the server setting
[03:22] <Amaranth> I find it interesting you know how to use emacs but don't know how that works. ;)
[03:22] <Amaranth> No offense, it's just that emacs is really....complicated.
[03:22] <Dr_willis> yip,   and you are on a Linux machine locally? if so use the X forwarding feature of  ssh
[03:23] <yip> oh but... when I connect to the same server at my school. my school Linux box will start the emacs GUI
[03:23] <jmerlin> hm.. adobe viewer wants to print to /bin/lp .. how do i change it to print to my installed printer?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> yip ssh -X whatever, then run the stuff
[03:23] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: file - print.
[03:23] <yip> ok let me see Dr_willis
[03:23] <Ranbee> shriphani: maybe it's to do with RAID, dapper, gparted etc won't partition my drives either, or it needs something loaded with it to work
[03:23] <jmerlin> ...
[03:23] <shriphani> i got no raids here
[03:23] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: the box which sets the print command is right there.
[03:23] <jmerlin> /usr/bin/lp <-- it has this selected as printer..
[03:23] <shriphani> just my hd
[03:24] <Ranbee> k
[03:24] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever gotten an Atheros chipset USB network device working in Ubuntu?
[03:24] <jmerlin> yes, but in things like open office word
[03:24] <jmerlin> it let sme choose the printer i installed
[03:24] <yip> oh sweet, Dr_willis. It works
[03:24] <jmerlin> doesn't give me a command
[03:24] <sethk> yip, check whether the DISPLAY environment variable is set.  If it isn't, emacs will default to terminal mode
[03:24] <jmerlin> hell if i know the command my linux driver installed.
[03:24] <Dr_willis> yip,  edit your ssh configs to make the -X the default
[03:24] <sethk> yip, if you are connecting with ssh, be sure to use    ssh -X  ..............
[03:24] <yip> so i need to invoke the X feature on my terminal in order to make it work
[03:24] <yip> ok
[03:24] <yip> thx for helping Dr_willis
[03:24] <foo> hm, my sound stopped working. Any ideas? I tried to restart alsa-utils but that didn't do anything. lsof|grep dsp returned nothing. hmm
[03:24] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: they use different printing systems. I strongly suggest that you don't mess with it if you can avoid it. Make sure you have "cupsys-bsd" installed and then adobe will print fine to the default printer with that command.
[03:24] <sethk> yip, there are several ways to make it work, although they all do essentially the same thing.
[03:25] <yip> i see
[03:25] <sethk> yip, Dr_willis's idea about making -X the default is a good idea
[03:25] <jmerlin> jmerlin@FRIENDLYHACKER:~$ lp
[03:25] <jmerlin> lp: Error - no default destination available.
[03:25] <ArrenLex> foo: it just randomly stopped working? Or did you something?
[03:25] <jmerlin> hard to print to a default when there isn't one
[03:25] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: what print subsystem are you using? cups?
[03:25] <jmerlin> yes
[03:25] <dave___> trying to install ubuntu on my sisters computer, and she has a linksys wirelessG USB , when i try to activate it , it freezes the whole computer up
[03:26] <dave___> anyone know whats going on?
[03:26] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: then apt-get install cupsys-bsd
[03:26] <jmerlin> it's installed.
[03:26] <rylasasin> how do I get easy ubuntu on my other build?
[03:26] <foo> ArrenLex: Random. Kind of weird.
[03:26] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: and adobe doesn't work with the default settings?
[03:26] <ArrenLex> foo: pastebin the output of amixer.
[03:26] <jmerlin> no
[03:27] <jmerlin> cupsys-bsd is already the newest version.
[03:27] <foo> ArrenLex: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/amixer.txt
[03:27] <jmerlin> says apt-get
[03:27] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: how about setting a default printer for cupsys?
[03:27] <jmerlin> yeh
[03:27] <jmerlin> didn't think of that
[03:27] <rylasasin> how do you get easyubuntu?
[03:27] <jmerlin> lol.. leave me alone
[03:28] <ArrenLex> Well fine. :(
[03:28] <jmerlin> lol i meant don't make fun of me =>
[03:28] <jmerlin> im still getting used to linux
[03:28] <jmerlin> i used it over SSH for a while for running servers on apache with php
[03:28] <jmerlin> but i have never used it as a desktop
[03:28] <ArrenLex> foo: uh, yeah. Your problem is very obscure and difficult to solve.
[03:28] <jmerlin> yeah that worked =>
[03:28] <jmerlin> lp recognizes it as the default
[03:28] <ArrenLex> foo: it's really a brand new technology not yet fully understood or developed by man.
[03:29] <foo> ArrenLex: haha. /me waits for the easy fix
[03:29] <ArrenLex> foo: basically it's this weird thing called a "volume control" and if it's "off" sound doesn't play. I'm not sure why.
[03:29] <imperfect-> Is there anyone here that can help me wiuth an nvidia configuration problem?
[03:29] <foo> ArrenLex: haha
[03:29] <foo> ArrenLex: rofl. you're genius. *hides*
[03:29] <foo> haha.
[03:30] <ArrenLex> You're welcome. =P
[03:30] <jmerlin> now that i've played around with linux enough, it's nearly time for me to re-install ubuntu and reconfigure it properly without fucking up over and over =)
[03:30] <DBO> jmerlin, less on the swearing please =)
[03:30] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: I've found that Linux is remarkably tolerant to fixing things without reinstalling. Are you sure you have to?
[03:30] <jmerlin> lol ok
[03:30] <qatsi> sethk: ok, i did a small shell script, lets hope it works...actually it was my firs shell script hehe
[03:30] <TheHighChild> Does anyone have a widescreen LCD?
[03:30] <jmerlin> ArrenLex, when you install packages that aren't managed by synaptic
[03:31] <jmerlin> you have rogue files and configuration modifications all over the place
[03:31] <holycow> jmerlin, lol
[03:31] <qatsi> TheHighChild: yes, i have two actually
[03:31] <holycow> your doing really well
[03:31] <jmerlin> =P
[03:31] <holycow> keep it up
[03:31] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: no, you don't, if you purge them when you remove them.
[03:31] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: apt-get remove --purge <package> purges the conf.
[03:31] <jmerlin> i installed KDE and didn't like it, so i removed it
[03:31] <Flannel> jmerlin: if they're packages, they're installed via dpkg, which is just as good as synaptic, just without the downloading.
[03:31] <jmerlin> and now i have quite a few KDE apps lying around that i can't find the packages for
[03:31] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: you want all vestiges of KDE off your system? That can be done.
[03:31] <TheHighChild> qatsi: I just got a Samsung 20". I have everything working, just wondering if there's a way to optimize everything
[03:31] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: found this yesterday, hold on...
[03:31] <jmerlin> i removed the packages i installed for KDE, it should've uninstalled the accompanying packages too =\
[03:32] <holycow> jmerlin, what prompted the idea to try ubuntu desktop?
[03:32] <holycow> just curious
[03:32] <jmerlin> because i hate windows.
[03:32] <dave___> anyoen have any luck with linksys USB wireless-G ?
[03:32] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[03:32] <qatsi> TheHighChild: yes there is, there are special fonts for LCD Screens...google it :)...
[03:32] <highneko> Is it possible to remove these thumbnails in the workspace/desktop thing?
[03:32] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: run the top command on that
[03:32] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: if you want, instead of apt-get remove, use apt-get remove --purge to get everything.
[03:32] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: that'll remove all vestiges of KDE.
[03:33] <SpudDogg> Has anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?
[03:33] <holycow> jmerlin, as good a reason as any :)
[03:33] <holycow> lol
[03:33] <holycow> welcome
[03:33] <jmerlin> =)
[03:33] <jmerlin> there are others
[03:33] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: which?
[03:33] <jmerlin> btw ArrenLex, that set my default printer, but it still doesn't print
[03:33] <jmerlin> when i hit 'ok' on the print panel, it doesn't do anything through my printer
[03:33] <holycow> one of the things that you will find is that once you 'learn' say kde or gnome and how the whole thing works  and gain some profficiency
[03:33] <holycow> you won't be able to go back if you try
[03:33] <holycow> it will be impossible beyond a certain point
[03:34] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: is there a particular reason you need adobe reader? It's total bloatware. How about evince?
[03:34] <holycow> evince works really well
[03:34] <jmerlin> i know it is
[03:34] <holycow> acroread is also fugly
[03:34] <suff0kate> Whats The Best LInux Vulnerability Scanner For Webpages?
[03:34] <SpudDogg> Has anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?
[03:34] <jmerlin> well..
[03:34] <jmerlin> it's the one devved by adobe..
[03:34] <holycow> they didn't take any real care to do de integration ... just pumped out some code in qt
[03:34] <jmerlin> and where i work, they want me to install that on the linux machine there
[03:34] <jmerlin> and have it printing through pharos
[03:34] <holycow> jmerlin, don't use that ... try evince first
[03:34] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: evince has yet to fail rendering a PDF for me.
[03:35] <jmerlin> it's not for me
[03:35] <holycow> use evince, then decide if its good enough
[03:35] <dzer0> hello
[03:35] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, AcroRead, ugly as it is, is still the best PDF renderer out there
[03:35] <jmerlin> it's for idiots who are XP zombies
[03:35] <jmerlin> who come into a computer lab
[03:35] <jmerlin> sit down
[03:35] <ArrenLex> Oh. That's different.
[03:35] <jmerlin> want to open the PDF
[03:35] <jmerlin> and see what they see on windows XP
[03:35] <jmerlin> which is what acroread is
[03:35] <ArrenLex> Madpilot: point me to a PDF that evince misrenders, please.
[03:35] <dzer0> I installed vncserver and logged in, and it connects but there is just a gray background and an X cursotr
[03:35] <holycow> jmerlin, ah just change the icon for evince
[03:35] <dzer0> err, cursor
[03:35] <holycow> they won't have a clue
[03:35] <suff0kate> Whats a good Vulnerability Scanner?
[03:35] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: so basically your workplace wants windows, minus the windows? Why?
[03:35] <fgh_lo> i already own a domain and i have a dynamic ip. how can i point domain to my ip?
[03:35] <jmerlin> because the machines we're installing it on
[03:35] <jmerlin> are the very old machines in storage
[03:35] <jmerlin> we have hundreds of them
[03:35] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, off the top of my head, I can't, but I have run into several in last year or so
[03:36] <jmerlin> they can't run win XP
[03:36] <jmerlin> not enough ram, too slow
[03:36] <TheHighChild> fgh_lo: dyndns.com
[03:36] <jmerlin> and XP would cost a fortune to install on all them
[03:36] <Madpilot> !enter
[03:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:36] <jmerlin> linux is free, it's very low bloat
[03:36] <holycow> jmerlin, sweet!
[03:36] <jmerlin> they can run it very easily =>
[03:36] <TheHighChild> fgh_lo: and ddclient
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> fgh_lo, you need a static ip ...
[03:36] <holycow> i would be happy to try answer as many questions as you got (in the time that i have available) if you are making some cool use of old hardware
[03:36] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: it's not low bloat if you install KDE, acroread, openoffice, firefox...
[03:36] <sethk> jmerlin, there are alternatives to acroread that are better, IMO
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> oh okie ... but dyndns need to pay right ?
[03:36] <holycow> :) its just a shame we live in such a throw away society, kudos dude!
[03:36] <sethk> jmerlin, try kghostview, if you are in KDE
[03:36] <holycow> just change the icon, no one will have a clue :)
[03:36] <jmerlin> we're running GNOME on it
[03:37] <sethk> jmerlin, then ghostview should do it
[03:37] <jmerlin> and i've minimized it, to look like XP.. with just 1 bar etc
[03:37] <dzer0> anyone know why my VNC only shows a gray desktop with an X cursor?
[03:37] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: kghostview is not useable as a PDF renderer (it uses gs, which is just bad)
[03:37] <fgh_lo> TheHighChild: can't i just install a dns serv on my linux box??
[03:37] <sethk> jmerlin, there is also xpdf
[03:37] <jmerlin> xpdf?
[03:37] <sethk> jmerlin, try several, see which one runs best for you
[03:37] <sethk> jmerlin, yes, another pdf viewer program
[03:37] <jmerlin> oh
[03:37] <jmerlin> the one packaged with ubuntu works fine
[03:37] <holycow> xpdf works nice, but it doesn't integrate into the gnome desktop
[03:37] <jmerlin> i'll just take off acroread
[03:37] <lastnode> is there anyway to write/copy files to a ntfs partition?
[03:37] <jmerlin> if i can't even get it to print to a local printer
[03:37] <lastnode> !ntfs > lastnode
[03:37] <TheHighChild> fgh_lo: Dunno about that man. I use the dyndns service, OI figured I'd suggest it
[03:37] <jmerlin> printing through pharos is going to be hell.
[03:37] <dave___> how can i download the files from synaptic without installing them?
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> !ntfs
[03:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:38] <ArrenLex> !tell lastnode about fuse
[03:38] <sethk> jmerlin, once you configure printing, all the X apps will print
[03:38] <dzer0> !vnc
[03:38] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[03:38] <lastnode> nothing
[03:38] <lastnode> !fuse > lastnode
[03:38] <larryw> fset msg %G[%n$0%B|%G$1%B<%n $3-
[03:38] <sethk> jmerlin, w.r.t. printing, it doesn't matter which pdf viewer app you use.
[03:38] <fgh_lo> TheHighChild: what is ddclient?
[03:38] <rlandis> how do I check how much disc space I have left to use
[03:38] <ArrenLex> rlandis: "df" command.
[03:38] <qatsi> sethk: it works, the script works :)
[03:38] <sethk> jmerlin, the package for xpdf, if you want to check it out, is :   xpdf-reader
[03:38] <sethk> qatsi, excellent.   :)
[03:38] <imperfect-> please!
[03:38] <ericmoritz\0> is there a way to make gnome-vfs' ftp to use active mode?
[03:38] <SpudDogg> Has anyone ever gotten an Atheros USB device working in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <imperfect-> help a dude get his color working! ;)
[03:39] <TheHighChild> fgh_lo: It's an application that will check your IP every few hundred seconds and report it to a service that will forward your domain to the ip
[03:39] <lastnode> has anybody here actually tried fuse?
[03:39] <ericmoritz\0> lastnode, I have
[03:39] <qatsi> sethk: ok, so i just have to find out a way to do it without the script :p
[03:39] <sethk> imperfect-, you mean you have a
[03:39] <lastnode> ericmoritz\0, has data got corrupted etc?
[03:39] <sethk> qatsi, well, once you can do it with a script, you can eventually do it without the script
[03:39] <JamesGoddard> hey, quick question - i currently run ubuntu and windows on the same hard drive ... is it possible to kill my windows partition and resize the ubuntu partition so that the drive is completely ubuntu?
[03:40] <sethk> imperfect-, what do you mean?  you have a display that isn't showing any colors????
[03:40] <jmerlin> i can't get anything to print though so yeah..
[03:40] <holycow> james absolutely
[03:40] <jmerlin> lexmark has a package for redhat
[03:40] <ericmoritz\0> lastnode, I haven't used to long enough to corrupt data. i.e., I mounted something, thought, hmm, that's nice, but too complicated and unmounted
[03:40] <sethk> JamesGoddard, you can, but it's less risky to just make another partition out of the windows space
[03:40] <JamesGoddard> (without losing my ubuntu data)
[03:40] <str47> yo
[03:40] <holycow> james boot into the live cd, start up gparted, delete your xp partition
[03:40] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: what printer?
[03:40] <StAfZe6> hello
[03:40] <StAfZe6> secret
[03:40] <holycow> and resize ubuntu
[03:40] <jmerlin> lexmark z35
[03:40] <lastnode> ericmoritz\0, ok :-)
[03:40] <str47> confidential
[03:40] <sethk> JamesGoddard, if you resize partitions, carefully back up everything
[03:40] <holycow> simple and guiriffic
[03:40] <JamesGoddard> seth: hmm yeah, good idea
[03:40] <jmerlin> it extracts .rpm files
[03:40] <david__> can i set xwindows to log out after a certain amount of time?
[03:40] <jmerlin> i alien'ed the main .rpm file
[03:40] <sethk> JamesGoddard, creating a new partition in the windows spot and mounting it is just as good, really.
[03:40] <jmerlin> and installed the deb package
[03:40] <holycow> JamesGoddard, just make sure you backup /home, you NEVER know ... shit happens.  you don't want to have a power outage during a resize for example
[03:41] <qatsi> sethk: yes, i think so :)...well, too muchfor today :) i really thank you for your help :), also you deltab :)...you saved at least 100 linux users :P ill post the code, and the research in the ubuntuforums :)
[03:41] <jmerlin> and it let me choose the driver in my printer configuration thingy when i added a new printer
[03:41] <jmerlin> but it doesn't print anything when i go to print
[03:41] <ericmoritz\0> lastnode, I guess it corruption depends on the fuse module
[03:41] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: I tried alienning the redhat rpms for my colour laser Lexmark printer. It didn't work, to put it mildly. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81645
[03:41] <ArrenLex> Have you seen that?
[03:41] <sethk> alien is always an adventure; that's why you'll see so many precautions and disclaimers in the docs for it
[03:41] <JamesGoddard> sweet, thanks all
[03:42] <qatsi> Good night everybody :)
[03:42] <jmerlin> no
[03:42] <jmerlin> does that work?
[03:42] <fgh_lo> TheHighChild: what about no-ip.com? i already have an acct w/ them. can i point the domain i own to no-ip?
[03:42] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: hell if I know. It was just the first thing google found.
[03:42] <jmerlin> lol
[03:42] <jmerlin> that's basically what i did..
[03:43] <jmerlin> i alien'ed the .rpm
[03:43] <jmerlin> then double-clicked on the .deb
[03:43] <holycow> jmerlin, what printer?
[03:43] <ArrenLex> holycow: z35
[03:43] <holycow> did you check on linuxprinting.org for printer support?
[03:43] <jmerlin> lexmark z25
[03:43] <jmerlin> z25-z35
[03:43] <ArrenLex> Same thing.
[03:43] <jmerlin> yes i did
[03:43] <jmerlin> they don't have lexmarks.
[03:43] <jmerlin> lexmark's site has one for redhat
[03:43] <jmerlin> i alien'ed the rpms
[03:43] <holycow> uh ... *hnmmm* actually lexmarks are known to work
[03:44] <jmerlin> and then installed the debs.. but even after configuring a new printer with the installed driver it doesn't print
[03:44] <jmerlin> so i dont know
[03:44] <holycow> http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z35
[03:44] <holycow> ah
[03:44] <holycow> forget it
[03:44] <holycow> you need a new printer
[03:44] <holycow> btw... yo umight be interested in brother printers and multifunction units
[03:45] <holycow> not only do they have linux drivers
[03:45] <holycow> they have debian installers
[03:45] <holycow> and
[03:45] <holycow> their drivers are gpl
[03:45] <ArrenLex> holycow: he doesn't seem to need a new printer. He seems to need a binary driver.
[03:45] <holycow> we are testing them here actually
[03:45] <jsleeper> dumb question - in command line how can i see if a certain package is installed?
[03:45] <jmerlin> if i call lexmark they may be able to get it running
[03:45] <dave___> how do I get apt-get to just download the file without installing ?
[03:45] <jmerlin> they offer linux binaries on their site
[03:45] <jsleeper> i'm still learning apt - used to portage
[03:45] <dave___> i need the .deb files to bring over to another computer
[03:45] <jmerlin> so they should go through setting it up with me on a debian system
[03:45] <holycow> ArrenLex, i'm aware of that ... i'm simply suggesting its cheaper to buy a new printer than it is to spend 4 days figuring out its a paperweight
[03:46] <holycow> we are talking about $100 printers
[03:46] <slop> what does == mean in python?
[03:46] <holycow> not 5000$ printers
[03:46] <jmerlin> i don't have money for a new printer
[03:46] <madewokherd> slop: equal value
[03:46] <jmerlin> i'm a student living in an apartment working part time
[03:46] <slop> madewokherd, thanks
[03:46] <jmerlin> money is rare.
[03:46] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: have you seen this? http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:337:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=1242&searchLang=en&searchLang=en
[03:46] <jmerlin> yes
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> slop, really ... this is #ubuntu ... and == is comparison see if the two vales are the same
[03:46] <jstarcher> hey guys
[03:47] <Djuuss> then its time to print at college (hope im not bumping in)
[03:47] <holycow> jmerlin, *nod* i understand completely.  i wish i could help i don't know how to help with printers known not to work :/
[03:47] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: what happened to that?
[03:47] <jmerlin> doesn't work
[03:47] <holycow> i think we had some z75's or something for a while but those all  basically died
[03:47] <slop> wickedpuppy, i know this is #ubuntu
[03:47] <fgh_lo> i already own a domain and i have a dynamic ip. how can i point that domain to my ip? dns?
[03:47] <holycow> so we dropped the brand
[03:47] <jmerlin> the listed OS's work fine, they've been tested on
[03:47] <jmerlin> but on debian.. nope
[03:47] <jmerlin> no support =\
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> slop, then pls ask python questions in #python next time
[03:48] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: not supported does not mean does not work.
[03:48] <Madpilot> fgh_lo, didn't you ask that question - and get an answer - about half an hour ago?
[03:48] <slop> wickedpuppy, i didn't know there was a #python.  thanks :)
[03:48] <Djuuss> Hey im running 5.04 right now, what did i have to type again to upgrade the distro?
[03:48] <jmerlin> means it will take manual installation and manual conf editing to make it work
[03:48] <jmerlin> lol
[03:48] <Djuuss> apt-get distupgrade iirc?
[03:48] <jmerlin> if i can get it to work though, i can make a .deb file and put it up on the multiverse
[03:48] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Djuuss about upgrade
[03:48] <jmerlin> so people can just apt-get it and be happy
[03:48] <Djuuss> thx madpilot
[03:48] <fgh_lo> Madpilot: i want to know if i can setup my own dns that will point my ip to my domain
[03:49] <jmerlin> hmm..
[03:49] <jmerlin> this is weird
[03:49] <CVirus> Anybody managed to get the Wireless Broadcom 4311 chipset working with Linux ?
[03:49] <jmerlin> the print jobs went through to the job queue
[03:49] <jmerlin> i can see them
[03:49] <jmerlin> but they say "stopped"
[03:50] <Madpilot> jmerlin, please stop using your Enter key as punctuation...
[03:50] <jmerlin> =(
[03:51] <shriphani> Madpilot, my drivrefuses to be partitionede
[03:51] <shriphani> so i need help with it
[03:51] <highneko> How can I remove all these little messages that popup when my mouse goes over things?
[03:51] <dave___> is there a website I can download the .deb files that are in the repository for use on another computer?
[03:52] <ArrenLex> dave: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:52] <Madpilot> shriphani, I know very little about partitioning - all the partitioning I've done so far has 'just worked', so I haven't needed to learn... sorry
[03:52] <dave___> ahhhh
[03:52] <dave___> thank you
[03:52] <shriphani> heh
[03:53] <shriphani> but the installer cant partition
[03:53] <ArrenLex> Debian is life.
[03:53] <bimberi> dave___: btw, if your "main" computer is being kept up to date, the .deb files will have been downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, ubuntu and debian ? why ? they are the same
[03:53] <ArrenLex> shripani: does it give some sort of error?
[03:53] <shriphani> ArrenLex, yes
[03:53] <ArrenLex> wickedpuppy: they are most certainly not the same.
[03:53] <shriphani> wickedpuppy, i want to try it
[03:54] <holycow> actually they are very very much the same
[03:54] <ArrenLex> shrip: what error, exactly? xD
[03:54] <ArrenLex> holycow: similar. But certainly not the same.
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:54] <shriphani> For some unknown reason this drive cccnot be partitioned
[03:54] <holycow> ArrenLex, i cannot agree with that at all but on a technicality
[03:55] <holycow> they 'are not' binary compatable but for some reasons not obvious to new users
[03:55] <jmerlin> has anyone here ever had to make a ubuntu linux install authenticate through a windows AD?
[03:55] <holycow> that is ubuntu 'freezes' off of debian unstable every 6 months
[03:55] <Djuuss> haha this is gonna take ages, gotta upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, then from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:55] <Celeste> hi
[03:56] <Celeste> I just installed "ubuntu-desktop"  on  "kubuntu"
[03:56] <shriphani> !hi
[03:56] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[03:56] <Celeste> when I press  ALT+F2  nothing happens
[03:56] <holycow> the freeze simply creates a situation where you will end up with base system config variability ... so yeah they are different, but not in the classic 'distro' sense imho
[03:56] <shriphani> Celeste, you need to log out
[03:56] <Celeste> shriphani, I logged out,  gdm started instead of kdm (as wished) and gnome is running
[03:56] <Djuuss> why is it bad to just put the dapper repo's right away and upgrade 5.04 --> 6.06?
[03:56] <shriphani> oh
[03:56] <Celeste> then I pressed ALT+F2  to get a command line like input window for starting programs
[03:57] <jmerlin> whatever, i'll figure it out later
[03:57] <Celeste> is it a misconfiguration or a package error?
[03:57] <jmerlin> i'll figure it out on my boss's time when i'm getitng paid to do so :>
[03:57] <shriphani> gnome-terminal is bad ?
[03:57] <jmerlin> off to play ET
[03:58] <Celeste> the terminal works
[03:58] <Celeste> shriphani, You do not know what I am talking about, right?
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, you logged out .. then you log in ?
[03:58] <shriphani> true Celeste
[03:58] <fgh_lo> ok. new question. how can i setup a dns on my box?
[03:58] <Celeste> yes wickedpuppy
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, after changing from gnome to kde ?
[03:58] <Celeste> shriphani, what happens when you press ALT+F2 on your keyboard?
[03:58] <shriphani> i get a prompt
[03:58] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, from kde to gnome
[03:58] <shriphani> console to be precise
[03:59] <Djuuss> celeste did you try xorgconfig?
[03:59] <Celeste> shriphani, ok, I want to get a prompt too
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> kde to gnome ? then surely gnome will load ...
[03:59] <shriphani> um
[03:59] <shriphani> wickedpuppy, gnome loaded
[03:59] <Celeste> is my english really so bad?
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> yah .. and the problem is ?
[03:59] <shriphani> she/he/it wants to work from console
[03:59] <rylasasin> uh hey how do you get easyubuntu?
[03:59] <Celeste> no I do not want!!!
[03:59] <Celeste> once more:
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> no .. you log out .. changed from kde to gnome ... and you log in and gnome loads
[04:00] <AWOSDev> I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear Waveform sounds but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?
[04:00] <JamesFoster> Does anyone know how many Ubuntu users there currently is, worldwide?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> JamesFoster, ask mark shuttleworth
[04:01] <Djuuss> Celeste could you explain what the problem is? You installed ubuntu-desktop over kubuntu, and now gnome loads. What's wrong with that?
[04:01] <AWOSDev> JamesFoster, no but there are 855 in here :)
[04:01] <Celeste> OS: "Kubuntu" ...  installed:  "gnome-desktop"  via aptitude.   CTRL+ALT+BACK ....  "gdm" started instead of "kdm"  because "gnome-desktop" has been installed.   I logged in with GNOME as my Desktop Environment
[04:01] <Celeste> now I want to get a prompt when I press ALT+F2
[04:01] <Celeste> but nothing happens
[04:01] <Celeste> yes, I *could* open a shell
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, ctrl-alt-f2 ?
[04:01] <Celeste> but I want this  ALT+F2 prompt
[04:01] <JamesFoster> Canonical must know, right? They can look at how many times updates are downloaded/checked for.
[04:01] <Djuuss> ahhhhhh i get it
[04:01] <AWOSDev> WickedPuppy, in KDE, when you press ALT+F2, the "Run Command" box comes up
[04:01] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, CTRL+ALT+F2  brings me back to a text shell
[04:02] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, a non X one
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, ah i see
[04:02] <fluvvell> can anyone point me to the howto for adding dictionaries to openoffice?
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> i do not use kde .. pardon me
[04:02] <Celeste> I USE GNOME
[04:02] <fluvvell> I've seen it before but google is being stubborn
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> so do i ...
[04:02] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy, I use KDE  ;)
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, well .. help him :P
[04:02] <Djuuss> both KDE and GNOME give a X single line command window when pressing alt+F2, much like windows gives when pressing <windows>+r
[04:02] <AWOSDev> Yeah but I hate GNOME so I have no clue.
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, i don't use kde so i got no clue
[04:03] <Djuuss> but for celeste it doesnt show up now that she moved from kde to gnome
[04:03] <AWOSDev> There's a problem then :)
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> btw when i press alt-f2 i get run command ...
[04:03] <razorbuzz> Is anyone else having issues with Bon Echo in the Edgy beta?  The address bar doesn't work.. I have to type URL's into the google search box to go anywhere.  Typing them into the address bar does nothing when I hit enter or click the arrow
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> razorbuzz: Works fine here atm.
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, go to System -> preference - >keyboard shortcuts ... and see if alt-f2 is linked to run command dialogue
[04:04] <razorbuzz> tonyyarusso, Thanks for the reply.  Not the answer I wanted...'cause now it means it's something specific to my system LOL
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> razorbuzz: Perhaps anyway.
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> razor1394, for edgy pls go to #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <wolfjb> I'm getting an error with gsfonts-x11, 'unrecognized option' followed by update-fonts-dir DIRECTORY. apt-get won't continue until I get this resolved, but I can not hold/uninstall/purge this package, any hints on how to overcome this?
[04:05] <razorbuzz> wickedpuppy, On my way.  Thanks
[04:05] <ArrenLex> fluvvell: for adding dictionaries to openoffice, if you still need it: File - Wizards - Install New Dictionaries
[04:05] <hbc> where would i find my kernel version listed please
[04:05] <Celeste> wickedpuppy: there is no "run command"
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> uname -a
[04:05] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, so no entry for that
[04:05] <aedinius> orion2012: I'm stalking you, now.
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, then pls kindly add it
[04:05] <Celeste> Linux box 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> no no
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, not you
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> its for hbc
[04:06] <hbc> thanx
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, go to System -> preference - >keyboard shortcuts ... and see if alt-f2 is linked to run command dialogue <-- for you Celeste
[04:06] <wolfjb> uname -r gets just the kernel version (2.6.15-26-386 in the above case)
[04:06] <hbc> I'll try that
[04:06] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, I found it - yes it is lnked
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> well and it doesn't work ?
[04:06] <Djuuss> Hey does anyone know voice recognition software? I wanna be able to just yell 'play'  at my box instead of having to click rhythmbox manually
[04:06] <hbc> cheers wickedpuppy
[04:07] <Celeste> yes wickedpuppy
[04:07] <orion2012> aedinius: OT chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:07] <fluvvell> ArrenLex, thanks - that sounds a little different to last time - I'll go have a bash at it.
[04:07] <Celeste> does not work
[04:07] <rixth> Are programs like users-admin written in python?
[04:07] <poolie> has anyone else seen the postinst for xserver-xorg looping endlessly?
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> hbc, as wolfjb pointed out , uname -r does the job too .. man uname for more info :P
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, i suggest you restart the whole com ... if that doesn't work then remove the shortcut and add it again
[04:08] <ArrenLex> Djuss: I have not managed to find a decent Text-to-Speech for Linux, let alone a transcriber. Good luck. Tell me if you find something.
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> if that doesn't work then pls curse the gnome devs
[04:08] <Djuuss> nah i hate text to speech
[04:08] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: Which one have you tried?
[04:08] <Djuuss> arrenlex, i want voice operation, not text to speech
[04:08] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: And what doesn't work?
[04:09] <hbc> ah, I see
[04:09] <knix> Is anyone here using ElectricSheep? It refuses to run with --root 1 for some reason therefore not displaying as a screensaver
[04:09] <AWOSDev> ArrenLex, I find that ktts works well :)
[04:09] <amicrawle> hello how do you download from irc?
[04:09] <Djuuss> if all else fails, yell 'restart' , which is linked to shutdown -rf now
[04:09] <Djuuss> that kind of thing, anyone know a nice app?
[04:10] <knix> Djuuss: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux%20voice%20recognition
[04:10] <ArrenLex> Arafagnion: I have not found ANY speech-to-text or speech-command or voice recognition apps for Linux. At all.
[04:10] <gpled> is their a synaptic package to install java for firefox?
[04:10] <Madpilot> gpled, yes
[04:10] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell gpled about java
[04:11] <hbc> and what is the man pages command for compiling kernel? is there one?
[04:11] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: haven't found ANY or any you like. kttsd and ksayit are there
[04:11] <halex-ab> hbc: don't believe there is one, no..
[04:12] <hbc> ok
[04:12] <hbc> cheers
[04:12] <w30> Djuuss, maybe you can find a usb clap on light and adapt it.
[04:12] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: That's completely different.
[04:12] <lufis> What Bash command will take a bunch of files and divide them up into different folders?
[04:12] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: Are you talking about text-to-speech, or speech-to-text?
[04:13] <x_O> anyone in here using Edgy??
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> lufis, thats a very .. general question
[04:13] <mister_roboto> x_O: yes
[04:13] <Djuuss> Ok if anyone else was looking for voice recognition (be it commands or text to speech), this article helps: http://applications.linux.com/applications/05/01/18/2148234.shtml
[04:13] <|thunder> x_O; try #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <lufis> wickedpuppy: Well :P Did i phrase it badly?
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> x_O: Yeah.  And more in ^^ that channel
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> its like how to divide people and put them in different room ? can you answer that ?
[04:13] <sproingie> divide by what criteria, i think he's asking
[04:13] <x_O> thanks
[04:14] <sproingie> and there's no one command that'll do that, though it'd be an easy loop
[04:14] <Djuuss> lufis, are you by any chance referring to your mp3 collection?
[04:14] <lufis> wickedpuppy: I have a bunch of images in a directory, but Eye of Gnome crashes every time it tries to load them all (meh). It doesn't load them recursively though, so if I could just divide them all up into like 200 per folder, it wouldn't crash
[04:14] <graveson> anyone know,where i can find a guide to access my pc remotely from the internet(Securely) using FTP or SSH ?
[04:14] <x_O> No one is alive in there though. Sigh.
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> i suppose you can find with exec ... like find . -name *.txt -exec rm -rf {};
[04:15] <mister_roboto> lufis: ahhh.. the old problematic pr0n folder
[04:15] <sethk> graveson, accessing via ssh is so easy, I doubt you'll find a guide for it
[04:15] <lufis> mister_roboto: Yes. :P
[04:15] <sethk> graveson, it's two minutes
[04:15] <x_O> Do you guys use XGL, or Beryl ... or ... emeral theme .... manager ... dealios ... anything like that?
[04:15] <sethk> graveson, on the server, install the package  openssh-server
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> 200 per folder ... hmms ... that will require a shell script ..
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> !beryl
[04:15] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:15] <sethk> graveson, then, that's it.  you're done.  use ssh on the client.  (If it's windows use ssh from cygwin, although many people use putty which is just as good but not my personal preference)
[04:15] <Djuuss> Wickedpuppy, what would you recommend, beryl or xgl
[04:16] <bdragonmsl> Which kernel is best for an amd64 x2 4800 in 6.10?
[04:16] <Teri> I have a question about OpenSSL.  I'm somewhat new to linux. when I set up my win2k server, I remember paying a company (i think it was verisign) for a certificate.  I've read a few tutorials on creating a certificate on ubuntu and it appears that they are instructions on how to create a certificate without a 3rd party company...I like the sound of that.  I'm reading it correctly or do I indeed need to use a 3rd party company?  I'm only
[04:16] <Teri>  running a web server for my family to use wordpress, etc. so I've always hated paying for a cert...
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, i used xgl before .. on sled .. so can't tell ya what to use on ubuntu ... xgl is good though but you need nvidia whatever you use
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> ati sux
[04:16] <graveson> sethk: is that it, do  i need to know my NAT address
[04:16] <Arafangion> Teri: The reason why you need to pay for a cert is because of the "Chain of trust".
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, you also get sftp and scp as a no cost bonus.
[04:17] <ArrenLex> Teri: you pay for certificates when you want other people to trust you.
[04:17] <bdragonmsl> yeah, I have nvidia, but it tells me I need a different kernel
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, you need to know your public address, yes, to log in from the 'net
[04:17] <AWOSDev> Teri, you can create your own certificate in Windows 2000 by promoting your server to "Enterprise Certificate Authority"
[04:17] <Djuuss> ya no worries, as long as its *really* 3d-accelerated, my cpu isnt exactly top of the line
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, there are a bunch of web sites that will tell you your public IP if you don't know it.
[04:17] <gpled> Madpilot: thanks, will try it out
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, then why not try both ?
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, and, if you order right now, at absolutely no cost ...  :)
[04:17] <graveson> sethk: is sftp as simple
[04:17] <nex_> does anyone know if there is an AMD X2 driver for i386 dapper?
[04:17] <graveson> sethk: :)
[04:17] <Arafangion> graveson: Most people use scp
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, yes, because it uses the same binaries as ssh.
[04:18] <Teri> I don't care about other people" trusting" my server.... I wish I knew this a year ago...would have saved me some cash
[04:18] <nex_> Teri what's up?
[04:18] <graveson> thanks guys
[04:18] <hbc> I know my kernel version, where would it be located please?
[04:18] <sethk> Arafangion, not in my experience, but it doesn't matter which you use.  they are both thin wrappers around ssh
[04:18] <sethk> hbc, uname -r
[04:18] <Arafangion> sethk: Fair enough. :)
[04:18] <Teri> nex_, nuttin
[04:18] <Arafangion> sethk: I find most ftp clients confusing, anyway ;)
[04:18] <Vouksh> What could be the reason behind my install stopping at 22gnome_panel_data?
[04:18] <lastnode> what is a .pb file and how can i open it in ubuntu>
[04:18] <kate> can anyone here help me with americas army?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> kate, osama can
[04:19] <qatsi> if i do a ifconfig and my card is listed there, does it mean that its correctly installed ?
[04:19] <Arafangion> lastnode: It could be anything.
[04:19] <sethk> Arafangion, they can be.  depends.  a person used to using ftp, who hasn't used rcp, takes easily to sftp.  depends on what you are used to, I guess.
[04:19] <hbc> no, what directory would it be in?
[04:19] <geekchic9-1> wickedpuppy: lol
[04:19] <nex_> anyone know where i can get desktop widgets?
[04:19] <Arafangion> lastnode: Traditionally, the "extension" is meaningless by itself on Linux and Unix systems.
[04:19] <sethk> graveson, sftp is just:   sftp username@ip
[04:19] <fuoco> hi, question: if i install a deb file manually, outside of a repo, does it break in some way the consistency of the package management ? would it make a difference when trying to uninstall stuff later etc... ?
[04:19] <kate> nvm
[04:19] <Teri> AWDSDev, so.... just to clarify, is this promoting my server just simply settings, or does this require a cost?
[04:19] <qatsi> sethk: back again, with more network issues....
[04:19] <Arafangion> lastnode: It does have semantic meaning to humans, though.
[04:19] <sethk> graveson, very easy.  and cygwin is nice because the windows side and the unix side use exactly the same syntax, in either direction.
[04:19] <jordan_> nex_ try gdesklets for gnome
[04:19] <nex_> i'm looking for the one that has processes, cpu, ram, etc...
[04:19] <sethk> qatsi, what type of issues?
[04:19] <nex_> anyone know what i'm talking about?
[04:20] <lastnode> Arafangion, of course. what i mean is, it generally denotes the file type
[04:20] <sethk> nex_, top
[04:20] <lastnode> !batcave-bink Hemingway, Ernest - The Old Man And The Sea & Notes(txt).rar
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about batcave-bink Hemingway, Ernest - The Old Man And The Sea & Notes(txt).rar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <lastnode> shoot
[04:20] <nex_> sethk, top?
[04:20] <Arafangion> lastnode: Only by convention.
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Teri, free.
[04:20] <bimberi> fuoco: no, if it installed without any force- options it should be fine
[04:20] <lastnode> Arafangion, yeah i know. is it a publisher file?
[04:20] <Arafangion> lastnode: Unix uses "Magic numbers" to denote file types, instead.
[04:20] <qatsi> sethk: after all the yada yada of the modules, if i do a ifconfig, i get some information about the network card, but i dont get an ip...
[04:20] <jordan_> nex_ that is the terminal application for seeing CPU usage ( top ).
[04:20] <sethk> nex_, not a widget, but does all that stuff.  I know the KDE desktop widgets, because I'm a kde user.   They exist for gnome also.
[04:20] <Nimwei> How do I configure a Samba user to have access to delete, rename, and modify files on a share? Currently the user is only able to read the files.
[04:21] <rylasasin> ok dude how do I get easy ubuntu
[04:21] <fuoco> bimberi: ok thanks. i assume the only down side then is that i won't get updates for that package ?
[04:21] <Teri> AWDSDev.  wow am I dumb
[04:21] <lastnode> Arafangion, im aware of all this. i just asked what a .pb file usually is.
[04:21] <nex_> ok,
[04:21] <jordan_> nex_ do you want it in the title bar?
[04:21] <Arafangion> lastnode: So, one uses "file", which looks at the first two bytes, which is hte magic number. (Shell scripts start with #!, which corresponds to the two-byte magic number)
[04:21] <sethk> qatsi, what happens if you bring up the network-admin dialog, select the interface, click disable, and then click enable?  do you get an IP?
[04:21] <mister_roboto> lastnode: did you google for it?
[04:21] <sethk> qatsi, that makes sense only if you are using DHCP.
[04:21] <bimberi> fuoco: no, unless it appears in your repositories later :)
[04:21] <nex_> well there is one i already tried for the title bar
[04:21] <qatsi> rylasasin: google is your friend...easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[04:21] <nex_> but it only displays one of my cpus
[04:21] <lastnode> Arafangion, mate, you're preaching to the choir ;-)
[04:21] <Vouksh> I'm having some trouble with installing Xubuntu on my laptop. During install, it stops at 79% trying to run "22gnome_panel_data"
[04:21] <qatsi> sethk: yes i am using, let me check
[04:21] <nex_> that's why i was asking if there is a driver for amd x2
[04:22] <Madpilot> w30, they ban people for friendly fire in AA?
[04:22] <nex_> xause it only shows one cpu
[04:22] <fuoco> bimberi: that was my next question, what happens if it appears in the repo later ?
[04:22] <Arafangion> lastnode: I'd suggest either google, or file, or just doubleclicking on it as a guest user, to see what the mime type is.
[04:22] <jordan_> nex_ are you sure both your CPUs are being used?
[04:22] <sethk> nex_, there are definitely widgets around that work with multiple CPUs.
[04:22] <Teri> AWDSDev, do you know where can I read about the "concepts" of SSL certificates so I don't make the same mistakes?
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> lastnode, i was in choir .. pls don't insult us :P
[04:22] <sethk> nex_, jordan_ has a good question
[04:22] <AWOSDev> Teri, not dumb, just a littler, uneducated.  :)
[04:22] <lastnode> wickedpuppy, it's called a figure of speech
[04:22] <sethk> nex_, do   cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:22] <nex_> good question indeed
[04:22] <w30> Madpilot, you get thrown in the stockade and that's it.
[04:22] <nex_> ok let me see
[04:22] <Teri> AWDSDev :-)
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> lastnode, :) would show i also understand that ...
[04:22] <bimberi> fuoco: if it's a later version in the repo it will offer to upgrade
[04:22] <qatsi> sethk: my network card is listed there and it says that eth0 is active...
[04:23] <lastnode> Arafangion, i havent downloaded it yet, else id do 'file' on it. :-) im wondering if ill need any proprietary reader to read it, in which case i wont download it. ill google, thanks.
[04:23] <nex_> nope
[04:23] <AWOSDev>  I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear the Waveform sounds but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?
[04:23] <nex_> apparently only 1
[04:23] <nex_> cpuid level : 1
[04:23] <nex_> processor: 0
[04:23] <nex_> no more
[04:23] <sethk> qatsi, ok, but deactivate, then click activate.
[04:23] <Nimwei> SAMBA: How do I give a user FULL RIGHTS to a share?
[04:23] <AWOSDev> nex_, CPUID level 1?  processor 0?  that's like a 486...
[04:23] <jordan_> nex_ Are you using an SMP kernel?
[04:23] <mister_roboto> lastnode: try filext.com for tracking down file extensions
[04:23] <sethk> qatsi, that will force it to request an IP from dhcp again
[04:23] <vulcanium> hey guys
[04:23] <w30> Madpilot, I did it on the rifle range so they didn't like it.
[04:23] <nex_> SMP kernel?
[04:23] <lastnode> mister_roboto, just found it :-)
[04:23] <nex_> <--noob
[04:23] <Madpilot> w30, heh
[04:23] <sethk> qatsi, if it gets one, then we have one type of problem.  if it doesn't, then we have a different type of problem
[04:23] <Djuuss> offtopic: in xchat, what do i type to start a private conversation with someone? like, <private conversation command> ubotu 'Hi bot!'
[04:24] <qatsi> sethk: i cant deactivate or activate :S
[04:24] <Nimwei> Djuuss: type /msg <nick> <msg>
[04:24] <AWOSDev> Djuuss, /query
[04:24] <Vouksh> What could be the reason behind my install stopping at 22gnome_panel_data?
[04:24] <nex_> i'm using i386 version of dapper, cause 64 bit would lock up during install
[04:24] <sethk> nex_, the default kernel is SMP.  symmetric multi-processing, aka more than one cpu
[04:24] <Djuuss> ok thx
[04:24] <jordan_> nex_ You need a specific kernel to use multi core CPUs.
[04:24] <vulcanium> I installed ubuntu for the first time today
[04:24] <nex_> ok
[04:24] <Arafangion> lastnode: Remember, if it's publisher, realise that even the specific _version_ matters. :(
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, are you using xchat ?
[04:24] <sethk> qatsi, can't?  why not?  you did start it as root, I assume?
[04:24] <nex_> how would i get that specific kernel?
[04:24] <w30> Madpilot, I just wonder how real the game was so I found out. :=)
[04:24] <qatsi> sethk: wait, its activating...hehe :p
[04:24] <Arafangion> lastnode: MS isn't even compatible with _themselves_. :(
[04:24] <sethk> qatsi, that's better.  :)
[04:24] <vulcanium> one minor issue seems to be that there isn't a propper graphics driver isntalled
[04:24] <vulcanium> IE, I can't go above 1024x768
[04:25] <qatsi> sethk: ok, now i have an ip...:p hehe
[04:25] <jordan_> sethk, Although people told me the default kernel is smp, I wasn't getting support for both cores until I installed the SMP kernel package.
[04:25] <sethk> vulcanium, that may be the graphics driver, but it also may be misidentification of the monitor.
[04:25] <lastnode> Arafangion, it's wordperfect, and im skipping the download. :-) thanks
[04:25] <Djuuss> wickedpuppy ye
[04:25] <nex_> jordan_ how do i get the SMP kernel package?
[04:25] <sethk> jordan_, interesting.  I build my own kernel, so I wouldn't have seen the problem.
[04:25] <vulcanium> sethk, any way to force a resolution?
[04:25] <Madpilot> w30, good thing I play Enemy Territory instead - when I started playing that, about a year ago, I spent the first two games or so shooting everyone, until I got auto-kicked for friendly fire and started to figure stuff out :D
[04:25] <vulcanium> I have a 7800gt btw
[04:25] <Arafangion> lastnode: It's _possible_ that OOo can open such files.
[04:25] <nex_> sethk, how would i go by solving my problem?
[04:26] <sethk> jordan_, first thing I do, with all the distros, is replace the kernel with one downloaded from kernel.org.  Which just about everyone here objects to, but it works.
[04:26] <Vouksh> Grrr. Can ANYONE help me with my install problem?
[04:26] <jordan_> nex_ You can do it using synaptic, hold on and I'll find the package name.
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, pls right click on my nick and choose the dialogue option ... there is no need to type :P
[04:26] <vulcanium> I was looking into how to install the latest driver but I got totaly lose
[04:26] <vulcanium> lost*
[04:26] <sethk> nex_, when you do   uname -a      do you see SMP anywhere in the output?
[04:26] <nex_> jordan_, thanks
[04:26] <sethk> vulcanium, can you paste your X log to the paste web site?
[04:26] <AWOSDev> Djuuss, if you switch to Konversation you can just click a nick to begin a query :)
[04:26] <nex_> no
[04:26] <w30> Madpilot, ha! I can't get through basic qualification on America's Army.
[04:26] <lastnode> Arafangion, id rather not use proprietary file extensions
[04:26] <jordan_> sethk_ I don't see why anyone would object.
[04:26] <nex_> sethk, no i don't
[04:26] <sethk> vulcanium, it's named Xorg.0.log
[04:26] <sethk> vulcanium, in /var/log
[04:26] <Arafangion> lastnode: Oooh! A fundamentalist! Cool :)
[04:26] <nex_> /home/icons/pCircle-24
[04:26] <vulcanium> sethk, I would, but I'm in windows right now
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pCircle-32
[04:27] <lastnode> :-)
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pDebian-24
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pDebian-32
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pGentoo-24
[04:27] <SilentDissonance> hello
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pGentoo-32
[04:27] <Vouksh> Hello, am I being ignored?
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pSlackware-24
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pSlackware-32
[04:27] <sethk> nex_, I'd start by going into synaptic and looking at the kernel packages, and picking one with smp in the name (for your architecture, of course)
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pSuse-24
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pSuse-32
[04:27] <sethk> Vouksh, not sure, did you ask a question?
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pTux-24
[04:27] <Djuuss> Wickedpuppy, i'm not into cyber. AWOSDev, i know, xchat has that too, but i did /stats p to get freenode staffers, but it turned up non-clickable nicks.
[04:27] <Vouksh> yea
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pTux-32
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pUbuntu-24
[04:27] <sethk> Vouksh, lot of traffic tonight, please ask it again.
[04:27] <mister_roboto> nex_: wtf?
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pUbuntu-32
[04:27] <nex_> oops
[04:27] <satrac> #perl
[04:28] <vulcanium> is pretty damn quick in here tonight
[04:28] <vulcanium> lol
[04:28] <sethk> vulcanium, best thing to do is look at the log.  otherwise, we are just guessing.
[04:28] <Madpilot> nex_, I'll un-mute you in a minute or two
[04:28] <jordan_> nex_ linux-686-smp
[04:28] <sethk> vulcanium, with the log we can tell you immediately what's going on, and hopefully how to fix it.
[04:28] <Vouksh> sethk, I'm having trouble with the installer. it keeps stopping at 79% saying it's running "22gnome_panel_data"
[04:28] <vulcanium> sethk, understood.
[04:28] <vulcanium> I'm so used to windows.... and log files are pretty foreign to me heh
[04:28] <sethk> Vouksh, did you do the media validation?
[04:28] <Nimwei> SAMBA: How do I give a user FULL RIGHTS to a share?
[04:29] <Arafangion> vulcanium: I don't even know _how_ to get the logs on windows.
[04:29] <Vouksh> hmm, nope. i'll try that first
[04:29] <sethk> Vouksh, sounds like a bad cd, either a bad burn, or possibly a bad download.  check the MD5SUM of the download, if you haven't already, and then try to validate the cd.
[04:29] <Djuuss> lol somehow i started this IRC in root..
[04:29] <SilentDissonance> hello, i just installed a new vid card, and am having problems getting x to start.
[04:29] <vulcanium> Arafangion, exactly. haha
[04:29] <Djuuss> but this beeing ubuntu, there is not even a root account
[04:29] <vulcanium> oh really?
[04:29] <vulcanium> hows that work?
[04:29] <sethk> Djuuss, that is not true
[04:29] <jordan_> SilentDissonance, what type of card?
[04:30] <SilentDissonance> GeForce 7600GS
[04:30] <suff0kate> how do u run a .rb i do it but it doesn't recognize it
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, two things.  first, it will not even begin to run without a root account.  second, nothing in ubuntu is different about root compared with all other linux distros.
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, that's a myth, as you have obviously discovered.
[04:30] <suff0kate> and i installed the ruby package
[04:30] <SilentDissonance> reports "No screens found" in the error logs
[04:30] <qatsi> sethk: ok, ill try to log in with the other computer :P lets hope it works
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> suff0kate, ruby file.rb
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, with the default installation options (and _only_ with the default installation options), the root password is not set.
[04:30] <Madpilot> nex_, you should be back now
[04:30] <suff0kate> i know
[04:30] <rixth> Are programs like users-admin written in python?
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, which is _not_ the same as not having a root account
[04:30] <suff0kate> how do you run those in terminal
[04:30] <sethk> rixth, some are.
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> suff0kate, i told ya .. ruby file.rb
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, if you do    ps aux      you'll see bunches of programs running in the root account
[04:31] <jordan_> SilentDissonance, Have you tried anything to get it working yet?
[04:31] <rixth> sethk, stylin' I'll take a look
[04:31] <mister_roboto> grep root /etc/passwd
[04:31] <suff0kate> k
[04:31] <AWOSDev> Djuuss, actually do ps aux | grep root, else you'll see hundreds and hundreds of lines :)
[04:31] <vulcanium> I need some advice on how to organize my hard drive as far as making my data accessable in both linux and windows
[04:31] <AWOSDev>  I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear the KDE sounds (Waveform) but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?
[04:31] <Djuuss> well ok i prefer sudo su over constantly typing sudo before apt-get install, i'm just puzzled how i managed to start xchat in root by clicking it in the gnome menu
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, put a new partition between the two OS ... thats my fav plan ..
[04:32] <bdragonmsl> can anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers in 6.10
[04:32] <AWOSDev> Djuuss, well did you start GNOME as root?  LOL
[04:32] <SilentDissonance> jordan_:  i attempted a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... but it appears it's not detecting the monitor.  sees the nvidia card fine, and 'chooses' that for me
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, xchat in root is waiting to be rooted
[04:32] <jordan_> Djuss, check that the menu item doesn't use gksudo.
[04:32] <vulcanium> what file system wickedpuppy ?
[04:32] <Djuuss> well this is my first startup, it went a bit bumpy
[04:32] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy, well yeah but I used to run xchat as root on my SuSE system.  no firewall too :P
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, fat32 .. then i dump my mp3s in side there
[04:33] <Djuuss> i remember typing sudo startx at some point
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, hmms .... i remember you .. you were the one with all the pr0ns!!!! :P
[04:33] <vulcanium> doesn't fat32 have some really anyoing partition size limits or something?
[04:33] <sethk> Djuuss, that's not necessarily wrong, although it's not the most common way to start X.
[04:33] <Vouksh> Is there any kind of CLI installer for ubuntu?
[04:33] <AWOSDev> Djuuss yeah sudo startx would make GNOME run as root
[04:33] <sethk> Vouksh, yes
[04:33] <sethk> Vouksh, on the alternate cd, use the text mode install
[04:33] <cynikal> Vouksh: the alternate cd
[04:33] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy, you must have confused me with another AWOSDev as I only went into #OSDev.  :)
[04:33] <Teri> join #apache
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, yah .. but i use it to transfer files ... just a temp place for files that needed in both OS .. but a storage partition
[04:34] <Vouksh> sethk & cynikal, thanks. i'll look into that if i can't get this working
[04:34] <AWOSDev> Teri huh?  why?
[04:34] <vulcanium> ah
[04:34] <Teri> AWDSDev, oops
[04:34] <vulcanium> well this wouldhave to be permanent storage for all my docs, pictures, and CDs
[04:34] <vulcanium> all ripped in lossless
[04:34] <CaptainMorgan> sorry for the ot, but anyone know off hand fast firewire is? google's being complicated.. or it's just me
[04:34] <jordan_> SilentDissonance, If you have installed the proprietary nvidea drivers then I have no idea, you can try using vesa for basic functionality.
[04:34] <Vouksh> I'm too used to Gentoo, and Ubuntu seems really... different for some reason
[04:34] <Teri> AWDSDev...I have questions on Apache2
[04:34] <Madpilot> nex_, you should be OK to talk now
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, then ah ... ntfs .. but surely you should know why i don't use ntfs
[04:34] <AWOSDev> Teri, just FYI... I'm AW O SDev with an O as in Octopus...not
[04:35] <Teri> AWDSDev...are you educated on apaech?
[04:35] <vulcanium> yeah... you can't wrtie from within linux then
[04:35] <jordan_> nex_ linux-686-smp
[04:35] <vulcanium> what if I used ext3
[04:35] <sethk> Vouksh, not really significantly different.  just details.  gentoo makes many gratuitous changes to what is normally done, just to be different.
[04:35] <AWOSDev> Teri, yeah
[04:35] <SilentDissonance> jordan_: i haven't installed any drivers as of yet... other than chosen "nv" from the list available when reconfiguring x.
[04:35] <AWOSDev> Teri, PM me
[04:35] <vulcanium> and then used a viertual driver in windows?
[04:35] <sethk> vulcanium, there are ext2/3 drivers available for windows
[04:35] <Djuuss> vulcanium either ntfs, or get windows drivers for ext3. you can write ntfs, but its rumored not to be stable
[04:35] <sethk> vulcanium, no virtual driver, there is a real driver
[04:35] <Teri> awosdev... now I see the  O
[04:35] <mister_roboto> CaptainMorgan: i googled "firewire transfer speed" and it was the top hit
[04:35] <nex_> it's telling me in synaptic that it's for Intel cpus
[04:35] <AWOSDev> Teri :)
[04:35] <vulcanium> well, whatever you want to call
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, same .. you got to fix windows to recognise ext3
[04:35] <w30> vulcanium, it's got a file size limit but I don't remember what. Databases get in trouble with it.
[04:35] <SilentDissonance> the problem, it appears, is the monitor is for some reason, isn't detected and won't register on the xclient :P
[04:36] <vulcanium> what are the limitations with fat32 exactly?  from what I'm reading it is just the 2 gig file size limit
[04:36] <sethk> SilentDissonance, reconfigure, and override the monitor selection with "generic monitor capable of"...
[04:36] <vulcanium> or 4 gig rather
[04:36] <sethk> SilentDissonance, you'll find that in the _middle_ difficulty level of the monitor configuration in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:36] <Vouksh> vulcanium, it only allows up to 32GB partitions
[04:36] <AWOSDev> vulcanium, well yeah 4GB file limit.  The only other limit would be 2TB partitions.
[04:37] <nex_> jordan_ does it work with AMD x2? cause it says in synaptic that it's intel
[04:37] <Djuuss> personally i write NTFS from linux all the time, works fine
[04:37] <Vouksh> AWOSDev, I thought it was 32GB?
[04:37] <Teri> Awosdev....pm'ed you... you still here?
[04:37] <jordan_> nex_ I honestly don't know :)
[04:37] <Madpilot> right, enough spam from me for now :)
[04:37] <nex_> are you running it?
[04:37] <vulcanium> well thats not too bad
[04:37] <AWOSDev> Teri yes but I didn't get it
[04:37] <vulcanium> I can deal with that
[04:37] <AWOSDev> hold on
[04:37] <sethk> Djuuss, there are known cases where there are major problems, so it's best to warn people about that.
[04:37] <vulcanium> I don't have anything larger than 2 gig typically
[04:37] <jordan_> nex_ with a core duo.
[04:38] <sethk> Djuuss, it's quite possible to not see something for days, months, even years, yet it is still there and still a serious problem.
[04:38] <THX-1138> Hi Madpilot
[04:38] <AWOSDev> Vouksh, 2TiB per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT32
[04:38] <Djuuss> yeh i was gonna say ' dont quote me on it' but synaptic needed my attention
[04:38] <Madpilot> hi THX-1138
[04:38] <AWOSDev> oh and vulcanium, you should read that too -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT32
[04:38] <Teri> awosdev...i'm replying in the pm window.... are you not seeing my typing/msgs?
[04:38] <vulcanium> kk
[04:38] <nex_> jordan_ that wouldn't work for me
[04:38] <Djuuss> if you want *stable* cross-OS storage, get some windows drivers for ext2
[04:38] <AWOSDev> Teri: no...did you get my "Can you see me?" message?
[04:38] <SilentDissonance> ok, tried that... I still get 'no devices detected'.... it's like it can't 'see' my monitor for some reason
[04:38] <Teri> awosdev.. yep
[04:38] <w30> Djuuss, I read that writing to ntfs with Linux over networking is flaky. I don't know the particulars though.
[04:39] <Madpilot> Teri, are you registed & identified w/ Freenode's nickserv?
[04:39] <Teri> awosdev...i answered back
[04:39] <sethk> SilentDissonance, makes no difference if you do what I suggested
[04:39] <vulcanium> I need another hard drive
[04:39] <vulcanium>  all this lossless music eats up my space
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> Teri, pls type awos and press tab ...
[04:39] <SilentDissonance> sethk:  let me rescroll back up....
[04:39] <Teri> madpilot, I doubt it,  I don't know what that means
[04:39] <AWOSDev> Teri yes are you registered?
[04:39] <docmur> okay how do you make iptables stay after restart
[04:39] <SilentDissonance> sethk:  think i missed yours lol
[04:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Teri about register
[04:39] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy she got my name right--
[04:39] <AngryParsley> lossless isn't really worth the hard drive space
[04:39] <sethk> SilentDissonance, (sudo) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <Madpilot> Teri, you need to be reg'd/id'd to send PMs
[04:39] <THX-1138> Madpilot - How do you use the mount command with the live cd, it appears disabled in a blurb on boot scrren  and i get permission errors trying to use it.
[04:39] <Djuuss> w30 that doesnt make sense, you dont write over network directly onto the harddisk, you present the data to the receiving machine, that writes it to HD all by itself. So i dont see how linux ntfs compatibility has anything to do with that
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, ah but she got to type ... its hard
[04:39] <AngryParsley> you can get the same perceived quality by using VBR mp3s
[04:40] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy I type all the nicks
[04:40] <heero> Hello
[04:40] <sethk> SilentDissonance, choose the middle difficulty level for monitor configuration.  then choose generic monitor, or generic lcd screen, capable of    (1280x1024, for example, whatever fits the monitor)
[04:40] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy even the hard ones :)
[04:40] <Teri> madpilot...oh
[04:40] <Madpilot> THX-1138, it should just work, at least with ext3 partitions - that's all I've ever used it on
[04:40] <SilentDissonance> sethk: ahh yes, that I just tried
[04:40] <JoelS> Hey guys, trying to go from gentoo->ubuntu, can anyone help with partitions?
[04:40] <THX-1138> Madpilot - Okay. - Thanks
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, lol ... my full name is mayng myat thu @ billy aung myint ... imagine typing this all the time
[04:40] <Teri> wickedpuppy, cool trick with the tab thing
[04:40] <sethk> SilentDissonance, in that program, it tells you that it can't see a monitor at all?
[04:40] <vulcanium> are there any known issues in writing ext3 from widnows using one of those drivers?
[04:40] <SilentDissonance> the stupid card has 2 vid ports... let me try dropping my monitor on the 2nd one, just out of curiosity.  might init that one first :P
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> Teri, same as bash :P auto complete
[04:40] <jordan_> nex_ I can't think of any reason why it *wouldn't* work.
[04:40] <Madpilot> THX-1138, you trying to view ext3 or something else?
[04:41] <Teri> wickedpuppy, kewl
[04:41] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy mayng myat thu @ billy aung myint...I could :)
[04:41] <SilentDissonance> brb, semi afk as I mess with the damn thing lol
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: You might be more specific.
[04:41] <vulcanium> I would think not seeing as ext3 is an open standard whilst ntfs had to be reverse engineered
[04:41] <w30> Djuuss, I don't know other than to parrot what some else wrote so take it with a grain of salt and research it more :=)
[04:41] <THX-1138> Ext3 to edit xorg.conf.
[04:41] <sethk> vulcanium, I pay attention, and I've not heard of problems there.  But investigate for yourself; problems can be rare but still exist and may be serious.
[04:41] <Teri> Madpilot, is there a cost for registering?
[04:41] <AWOSDev> Teri, free
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> Teri, free
[04:41] <Madpilot> Teri, no, it's free
[04:41] <sethk> vulcanium, my judgement is that it is the best alternative if FAT32 is not an option for some reason.
[04:41] <rpc-> it's free :)
[04:41] <nex_> jordan, so you're saying that it isn't specific to intel based?
[04:41] <vulcanium> okay
[04:42] <nex_> jordan_, how would i check to see if it worked?
[04:42] <jordan_> nex_ That is what I think, I am not sure though.
[04:42] <Madpilot> Teri, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:42] <nex_> ok let's ask...
[04:42] <Teri> Madpilot, reading...
[04:42] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, I have a drive partitioned like so: ntfs 22gig for windows, 21 gig for OSX (hfs+), and 30 gig for gentoo... i wanted to remove gentoo and put on ubuntu, and if convenient, maybe repartition it to include the hfs+ parition.
[04:42] <Djuuss> oeh, i think im in love.. gksudo update-manager
[04:42] <sethk> nex_, smp support is specific to a processor, but intel is not the only processor for which smp is supported
[04:42] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, but if thats not possible, just to take the 30 gig ext3 partition and use that for ubuntu
[04:42] <vulcanium> I need to ditch my x-fi card
[04:43] <nex_> sethk, so the package works with non-intel cpus?
[04:43] <vulcanium> anyone want it? :P
[04:43] <AWOSDev> xfi?
[04:43] <shriphani> guys how do i resize an ext3 partition ?
[04:43] <harrism> Hello room, I just finished building my new computer and I need some help getting the correct drivers for my VGA card (I believe) My VGA card is made by MSI, it's a NX6200 series NVIDIA/GeForce. Can someone tell me where to go to get direct rendering? If I type glxinfo in terminal I get name of display: :0.0
[04:43] <nex_> sethk, even though it doesn't say...
[04:43] <harrism> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[04:43] <shriphani> gparted doesnt seem to work
[04:43] <vulcanium> AWOSDev, you know, creatives latest gaming sound card
[04:43] <sethk> nex_, probably more accurate to say that packages are available for other processors
[04:43] <sethk> nex_, it isn't the same code.
[04:43] <vulcanium> I don't really game much anymore
[04:43] <THX-1138> Madpilot - I am using the DVD image with three install methods.
[04:43] <sethk> nex_, if you do the kernel configuration, and you set the processor type, then you'll find out whether smp support is available for that processor
[04:43] <fogos> hi someone use ipodder
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: Either one should be pretty easy to do, just go to "manually edit partitions" and there you go.
[04:43] <raindog> I attempted to enable direct rendering for my ATI R340M Radeon card.  After installing glfrx and rebooting I can no longer get X to run.  How can I revert to the driver that ubuntu picked for it orginally?
[04:44] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, I could always use the other partition like another drive in linux later, right?
[04:44] <nex_> sethk, how would i do that?
[04:44] <Madpilot> THX-1138, never used it, know zip about the DVD stuff... sorry
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: Yes.
[04:44] <AWOSDev> vulcanium, nope haven't heard of it
[04:44] <laska> hello there. Is anyoneknow how to reset admin password in Ubuntu?
[04:44] <vulcanium> AWOSDev, wow.
[04:44] <laska> laska@laska-main:/$ su
[04:44] <laska> Password:
[04:44] <vulcanium> don't pay attention to hardware much?
[04:44] <sethk> nex_, download the kernel source, and in the root of the kernel source tree, do:       make xconfig
[04:44] <laska> su: Authentication failure
[04:44] <laska> Sorry.
[04:44] <laska> laska@laska-main:/$
[04:44] <nex_> admin password is your password
[04:45] <AngryParsley> laska: use your own password
[04:45] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, so i'll just install it on the ext3 portion... right now i see dev/hda5 is swap 1 gig and dev/hda6 is 29 gig ext3
[04:45] <Madpilot> laska, you know Ubuntu uses sudo + your own password, right?
[04:45] <laska> not working
[04:45] <AngryParsley> laska: use sudo
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: Sounds good.
[04:45] <sethk> nex_, if for some reason you don't have enough support installed to do that, you can try     make gconfig           and, if that doesn't work,         make menuconfig
[04:45] <AWOSDev> vulcanium, I pay attention to network cards and SMP motherboards...get it now?  :)
[04:45] <sethk> nex_, they all do essentially the same thing.
[04:45] <bdragonmsl> Can anyone help me with my 6.10 box?
[04:45] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, so do I need to make any changes in the editor? or just hit forward?
[04:45] <jordan_> sethk, Don't you think that is a bit much for a new user.
[04:45] <AngryParsley> as in "sudo blah"
[04:45] <shriphani> AWOSDev, how do i resize an ext3 partition ?
[04:45] <vulcanium> AWOSDev, yeah... haha
[04:45] <AngryParsley> blah being the command you want to run
[04:45] <AWOSDev> laska, sudo -s
[04:45] <SilentDissonance> rofl i think it's solved.  appears that the card inits the dvi output first, so i have to have a monitor attached there.  the standard vid out port is the secondary :P
[04:45] <sethk> jordan_, to build it, yes.  but to use it to discover whether smp support is available?  absolutely not.
[04:45] <AWOSDev> shriphani, gparted
[04:45] <Madpilot> bdragonmsl, possibly, if you ask an actual question :)
[04:45] <AWOSDev> !gparted
[04:45] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: No, just tell it to use that one for /
[04:46] <harrism> is there anyone who can help?
[04:46] <AWOSDev> I personally like the LiveCD.
[04:46] <bashusr> ok... i'm a newbie when it comes to gnome...
[04:46] <jordan_> sethk, sorry misread.
[04:46] <THX-1138> My bios doesn't see three installed video adapters. - Is there a software bios available?
[04:46] <vulcanium> that reminds me
[04:46] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, can I prmsg?
[04:46] <bashusr> anybody got a shortkey cheat sheet?
[04:46] <vulcanium> the first time I botted up thel ive cd
[04:46] <vulcanium> it kinda crashed
[04:46] <nex_> you lost me at source tree
[04:46] <bashusr> or specifically, how do i switch between workspaces?
[04:46] <nex_> but anyways
[04:46] <sethk> vulcanium, did it crash, or didn't it crash?   :)
[04:46] <SilentDissonance> aargh, i spoke too soon.  still getting 'no screens found' in the log :(
[04:46] <bdragonmsl> I'm trying to get glx to work in 6.10, but it keeps coming up with "sudo: nvidia-glx-xconfig: command not found"
[04:46] <Madpilot> bashusr, Ctrl+Alt+Left Arrow|Right Arrow
[04:46] <bashusr> it was ctrl+alt+# in kde back in the days when i used it
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: You can, but #ubuntu-classroom might even be better (other people can follow help topics if they want)
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> bashusr, see the 4 mini windows beside the recycle bin ?
[04:46] <THX-1138> CTRL+ALT+ left/right arrow
[04:47] <nex_> thanks for your help guys
[04:47] <bashusr> how do i display desktop?
[04:47] <CaptainMorgan> why am I getting a sudo cd /foodir error: cd command not found? and if cd /foodir I get permission denied??
[04:47] <sethk> bashusr, you mean with a key combination?  usually control-alt-1, control-alt-2, etc.  (1, 2, not f1, f2)
[04:47] <nex_> time to google!
[04:47] <vulcanium> actually, it did the EXACT same thing my debian install did
[04:47] <laska> AWOSDev it worked!
[04:47] <AWOSDev> CaptainMorgan hmm
[04:47] <laska> Thanx
[04:47] <AWOSDev> laska np :)
[04:47] <Djuuss> Hey my firefox is busted.. 'bookmark this page' now spawns a tiny new window, barely the size of my cursor, that you can stretch out to reveal its called 'firefox'  but has no content
[04:47] <Madpilot> bashusr, also, try hovering your mouse over the desktop switcher (bottom-right corner) and rolling your mousewheel up and down
[04:47] <bashusr> sethk: doesn't work on gnome :)
[04:47] <vulcanium> right after where thel ogin screen in debian was [or where it woudl be on thel ive cd]  it just stops
[04:47] <Agrajag-> gday, for some reason emulate3buttons seems to be happening for me although i do not have it set in my xorg.conf. what else might do this?
[04:47] <bashusr> Madpilot: on a laptop... no wheel thingie :)
[04:47] <CaptainMorgan> it's a newly created dir AWOSDev, for a spim simulator i placed it in /usr/local/bin
[04:47] <THX-1138> sethk - okay that will give you different terminals. or user perms
[04:47] <bashusr> is there a show desktop shortcut?
[04:47] <AWOSDev> CaptainMorgan try sudo -s then cd /foodir
[04:47] <vulcanium> I got a sort of courruptedl ooking box in the middle of the screen
[04:47] <wickedpuppy> bashusr, then just click them ...
[04:47] <Madpilot> bashusr, ctrl+alt+right/left arrow, then
[04:47] <halex-ab> Djuuss: Try restarting Firefox..
[04:48] <vulcanium> and it just sat there for as long as I would leave it
[04:48] <bashusr> Madpilot: affirmative... thanks
[04:48] <sethk> THX-1138, control-alt-f# is for consoles (not terminals, consoles).  not control-alt-1
[04:48] <bashusr> how about desktop shortcut? ie. window+d in windows?
[04:48] <harrism> can anyone help me with my VGA card?
[04:48] <Djuuss> halex-ab, i cant, i'd lose this site that i want to bookmark :P
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> thanks AWOSDev  ;), why was that necessary if I was using sudo?
[04:48] <AWOSDev> CaptainMorgan, good question...ask the devs?  :P
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, you can save the bookmarks ...
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> heh
[04:48] <halex-ab> Djuuss, There's a thing called 'history' you know.. ;)
[04:48] <bdragonmsl> I'm trying to get glx to work in 6.10, but it keeps coming up with "sudo: nvidia-glx-xconfig: command not found", I've installed all the glx, and I have a nvidia card.  Is there something that I'm doing wrong??
[04:48] <Teri2007> AWOSDev, I'm back... I think I'm registered now
[04:48] <THX-1138> vulcanism - I am guessing you are using an lcd monitor?
[04:49] <ChocoCid> So, what exactly is wrong with automatix?
[04:49] <AWOSDev> Teri2007 okay
[04:49] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, it breaks things, basically
[04:49] <halex-ab> bdragonmsl, you're typing the wrong command.. it's nvidia-xconfig
[04:49] <vulcanium> THX-1138, nope, a crt.
[04:49] <Djuuss> err
[04:49] <sethk> bdragonmsl, that's part of the nvidia binary drivers
[04:49] <ChocoCid> "breaks things" how?
[04:49] <ChocoCid> is there a page that describes this stuff?
[04:49] <Djuuss> what command was i looking for to see all running processes, but only print the ones that look like ' firefox'
[04:49] <w30> bashusr, right click on your panel and then left click on add; find the workplace swithere applet and add that to your panel. You can then click on a desktop that you want to go to.
[04:49] <sethk> ChocoCid, before you use it, things work.  after you use it, they don't.
[04:49] <vulcanium> the live cd worked fine once I botted up in the dafe display mode I think it was called
[04:50] <ChocoCid> lol
[04:50] <sethk> Djuuss, ps aux | grep firefox
[04:50] <Teri2007> AWOSDev, ok well I thought that worked but maybe not because you still can't see me I guess...hang on...
[04:50] <ChocoCid> so, no further details anywhere?
[04:50] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, there is a page listing some of the problems with automatix, let me see if I can scare up the URL
[04:50] <halex-ab> Djuuss, ps -A | grep firefox
[04:50] <w30> swithere/switcher
[04:50] <toolate> anyone have any clues to where i can find old ATI M7 drivers? my display works, but I have lines through buttons sometimes. not anything else, just buttons.
[04:50] <AWOSDev> Teri2007 okay
[04:50] <ChocoCid> thanks, that'd be nice, i used it on my dapper install and had problems with some other stuff afterwards
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> what's a good dir to do manual installs of programs? i thought /usr/local/bin, but not so sure
[04:50] <ChocoCid> the idea seems great though, so i'm wondering what's up
[04:50] <Djuuss> thanks, but didnt need it, there were two firefoxes floating around as tiny windows, and they didnt respond to killall -9 mozilla-firefox
[04:50] <THX-1138> !display > vulcanism
[04:51] <bdragonmsl> I originally typed this though... sudo nvidia-glx-xconfig enable
[04:51] <THX-1138> !display > vulcanium
[04:51] <SilentDissonance> got x to boot off the default vesa set... gonna poke around a bit and see if I can make this work... if not, i might be back.  i see there's a lotta others around, and I can plink away solo for a bit.  thanks for the help and suggestion on vesa at least :)
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, i thought its kill -9 ...
[04:51] <AWOSDev> CaptainMorgan I prefer /usr/bin but that's just me
[04:51] <vulcanium> what THX-1138 ?
[04:51] <raindog> Question:  I need to replace original driver for my ATI card.  How do I go about that?
[04:51] <halex-ab> bdragonmsl, yeh, you're right.. heh
[04:51] <vulcanium> oh I see
[04:52] <vulcanium> I will savethat for when I boot back into ubuntu later
[04:52] <nex_> ACPI objects?
[04:52] <jordan_> raindog, What do you mean by 'replace'?
[04:52] <Djuuss> wickedpuppy its kill -9 if you know the pid, but i just wanna kill *every* firefox, so i use killall
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, killall mozilla-firefox ?
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> this doesn't work ?
[04:52] <THX-1138> vulcanium - It should be an easy fix - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  or edit the sudo gedit or sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly
[04:52] <shriphani> brb live cd booting to partition
[04:52] <WhiteNoise> will compiling a vanilla kernel with little in the way of modules cause any problems with ubuntu's hotplug bootup scripts?
[04:53] <halex-ab> wickedpuppy, killall firefox-bin works for me..
[04:53] <vulcanium> okay
[04:53] <jordan_> nex_ Is AMD considered 686?
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> so its firefox-bin
[04:53] <Djuuss> it didnt :S i told you firefox was screwing up. but i just expanded the little windows and pressed their close button, now i started it again and it works
[04:53] <halex-ab> yup..
[04:53] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, apparently the page w/ the list of automatix issues got lost... too bad.
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> pls try it Djuuss try killall firefox-bin
[04:53] <THX-1138> jordab_ - i am using the k7 kernel
[04:53] <ChocoCid> blarg
[04:53] <raindog> jordan_:  I attempted to get direct rendering working by installing the glfrx driver instead of the default one Ubuntu installed as I can no longer get X to start.
[04:53] <bdragonmsl> is there a certain image I should have installed for my amd x2 4800?
[04:53] <ChocoCid> let me guess, issues with package managers somehow?
[04:54] <Djuuss> yeh it was firefox-bin :( that explains then, hehe i feel like such a noob
[04:54] <THX-1138> bdragonmsl: linux smp
[04:54] <jordan_> raindog, did you make a backup of your xorg.conf?
[04:54] <docmur> If I wanted to block access to google using iptable it would be iptables -A OUTPUT
[04:54] <docmur> ????
[04:54] <raindog> jordan_:  The process I used did create a backup.
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, you be surprised ... the name for vlc is wxvlc ...
[04:55] <AWOSDev> docmur, uh, yeah
[04:55] <THX-1138> bdragonmsl: smp symetric multi processing.
[04:55] <Djuuss> i'm more of a xine/mplayer man myself
[04:55] <AWOSDev> docmur, why block Google?  what did they *DO* to you?
[04:55] <docmur> okay ummm how to I tell it I'm using a www. address
[04:55] <jordan_> raindog, Good, then all you have to do is use the backup, I'll walk you through it.
[04:55] <AWOSDev> docmur, translate it to IP address by using nslookup
[04:55] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, that, some fairly bad coding errors, unsafe use of various override flags in apt-get... there were also personal issues with the original developer of automatix. He'd attack people who attempted to  report bugs.
[04:55] <jordan_> raindog, What was the backup called?
[04:56] <bdragonmsl> Does ubuntu normally not recognize anything??
[04:56] <ChocoCid> ah, i see
[04:56] <bdragonmsl> or do I just have a funky rig?
[04:56] <ChocoCid> bdragonmsl, hardware-wise, certain wireless cards and stuff
[04:56] <docmur> then whats the drop command
[04:56] <bdragonmsl> k, well need a restart, be back in a few
[04:56] <THX-1138> bdragonmsl: Nah, usually everything is fine. for the display.
[04:56] <raindog> jordan_:  xorg.conf.0 replace or something.  I'm not entirely sure.  If I can get to the directory I'm sure I can identify it.
[04:56] <laska>  how do you navigate in console?
[04:56] <bdragonmsl> thanks guys!
[04:56] <ChocoCid> cd
[04:56] <laska> cd not working
[04:56] <ChocoCid> cd folder or cd .. to go up
[04:57] <ChocoCid> do ls to see what subdirs are there
[04:57] <jordan_> raindog, Ok, are you at a command prompt now
[04:57] <jordan_> ?
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/#
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/#
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/# cd / home
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/# cd / laska
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/# dir
[04:57] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, the list is still up: http://www.novarata.net/comparison.html
[04:57] <laska> bin    dev   initrd          lib         mnt   root  sys  var
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> ...
[04:57] <laska> boot   etc   initrd.img      lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  vmlinuz
[04:57] <laska> cdrom  home  initrd.img.old  media       proc  srv   usr  vmlinuz.old
[04:57] <Madpilot> laska, pastebin!
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/# cd
[04:57] <raindog> jordan_:  Yes, I'm in recovery mode with a command prompt.
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> laska, pls stop it
[04:57] <halex-ab> laska: better to use ls rather than dir
[04:57] <ChocoCid> heh
[04:57] <jordan_> raindog type `cd /etc/X11/`
[04:57] <halex-ab> LOL..!
[04:57] <Madpilot> laska, I'll unmute you in a minute or three
[04:58] <THX-1138> laska - careful sysops is flexinf muscles
[04:58] <jordan_> raindog, then `ls`
[04:58] <Djuuss> ChocoCid, what did automatix do?
[04:58] <tj> i have had ubuntu installed for a while now - I unplugged /dev/hda (master - IDE0), and plugged in /dev/hdb ( made it master ) and installed XP - I then changed hdb back to slave and rebooted into Linux - edited grub to reflect the windows partition on (hd1,0) - but I get grub error 22 no partition.  Any ideas?
[04:58] <ChocoCid> oh, as far as i know, nothing wrong
[04:58] <ChocoCid> i fucked up my dapper install trying to get XGL/beryl working
[04:58] <Flannel> !language
[04:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:58] <ChocoCid> silly me not backing up my xorg.conf
[04:58] <ChocoCid> er, sorry
[04:59] <raindog> jordan_:  I'm in in the root directory.
[04:59] <halex-ab> heh, I did the same with Edgy
[04:59] <halex-ab> tj, looks like grub is still configured to use the old driving scheme..
[04:59] <jordan_> raindog, in /?
[04:59] <halex-ab> try hooking it back the old way and see if it boots..
[04:59] <Madpilot> laska, mute's been removed. Next time, use a pastebin
[04:59] <THX-1138> tj - the boot sector 1st 512 bytes is installed on the original master see ubotu's link.
[04:59] <tj> i can boot into linux - just not into windows - i guess I need to clarify
[04:59] <THX-1138> !grub
[04:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:59] <jordan_> raindog, or /etc/X11?
[04:59] <halex-ab> tj, sorry, I misunderstood..
[05:00] <halex-ab> See THX-1138's comments..
[05:00] <raindog> jordan_ I am in /etc/X11 now
[05:00] <tj> how do I get grub to see my windows partition and install ...?
[05:00] <jordan_> raindog, type `ls` to list the files in that directory.
[05:00] <halex-ab> raindog, you'll need to reinstall GRUB..
[05:00] <docmur> so I would do iptables -A OUTPUT -o ipaddress -j DROP
[05:00] <halex-ab> ~grub
[05:00] <raindog> jordan_:  I have found the backup.  It is named xorg.conf.orginal-0
[05:00] <halex-ab> !grub
[05:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:01] <ChocoCid> saving xorg is such a ridiculously good idea it's astounding
[05:01] <Djuuss> ouch tj, thats gonna be a pain, sorry i cant help much
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> docmur, so you are going to block all instance of google ?
[05:01] <ChocoCid> why i decided not to do so is beyond me
[05:01] <tj> Djuuss: why is it going to be a pain?
[05:01] <docmur> it's not google I'm blocking
[05:01] <jordan_> raindog, type `sudo cp xorg.conf.original-0 xorg.conf`
[05:01] <docmur> it's a crack site
[05:01] <docmur> but either way
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[05:02] <raindog> jordan_:  Done
[05:02] <Djuuss> tj well YMMV, but i spent ages on a similar situation your describing
[05:02] <docmur> so how would I do it providing I have an IPaddress
[05:02] <jordan_> raindog, now type sudo GDM and x *should* load properly :)
[05:03] <bdragonmsl> just looked under my device manager and it is showing the graphics card as unknown
[05:03] <tj> Djuuss: hmmm - seems simple enough - thanks though
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> docmur, i were you i search on google for iptables ... there are plenty of tutorials and examples
[05:03] <Djuuss> tj: its probly me, grub and i arent too friendly it seems
[05:04] <raindog> jordan_:  Thank you very much.  It's always good to learn more about my system.  It's working as it should now.  I guess I'll just have to get used to no 3D acceleration.
[05:04] <tj> Djuuss: i know the feeling - i have a feel for it, just thought I would pop in and see if anyone had a quick fix - that ubotu link is pretty good info
[05:04] <THX-1138> bdragonmsl: sudo lspci or lshw  should give you some info. - if you want to install an option other than vesa and generic.
[05:04] <jordan_> raindog, What instructions did you follow to get 3D working?
[05:05] <Djuuss> !postfix
[05:05] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> postfix is great but my bloody isp blocks the ports ...
[05:06] <jordan_> raindog, Because I have seen pretty bad instructions for 3d acceleration out there.
[05:06] <raindog> jordan_:  I found a entry in a dapper installation wiki that had some information that included some specifics about my video card.  I knew it could lead to problems, but according to the HOWto it sounded like I would be able to configure it correctly.
[05:06] <amicrawle> need help seeing a ntfs harddrive
[05:06] <amicrawle> how to
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> see ?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> or write ?
[05:07] <amicrawle> it see is as dev/hdb1
[05:07] <amicrawle> see
[05:07] <Djuuss> wickedpuppy, i just wanted to know what it was because my apt-get dist-upgrade prompted me with one of them blue/yellow config screens for 'postfix'. i dont get why it cant just wait 10 seconds, at no input skip it, and go on updating.
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> just mount it ?
[05:07] <amicrawle> but does not mount
[05:07] <amicrawle> how
[05:07] <User23> sup
[05:07] <ChocoCid> so, i downloaded qsynaptics, and try to run it... "Please install the synaptics touchpad driver! please enable X shared memory config in XF86config"
[05:07] <jordan_> raindog, Ok, that is always a good source, and may I recommend buying an intel or nvidea card for your next upgrade :)
[05:07] <raindog> jordan_:  I'll find the link now that X is running on the previously effected machine.
[05:07] <ChocoCid> is there a better way to turn off "tap to click" than qsynaptics? :\
[05:08] <sethk> Djuuss, add that feature and submit it to the development group, they'll add it to the next release if people like it.
[05:08] <jordan_> raindog, No need, the Ubuntu wiki is very reputable.
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, you got to give us more info ... what did you do ? is the hd detected ? and so on and on...
[05:08] <raindog> jordan_:  I certainly will, however, I'm using a laptop that was given to me while saving money for a new desktop.
[05:08] <amicrawle> i put it in
[05:08] <amicrawle> and etc tab is not a dir
[05:08] <amicrawle> it sayes
[05:08] <sethk> ChocoCid, that's a very very old version that you downloaded, at least two years out of date
[05:08] <Djuuss> sethk how would i go about doing that. (without using postfix ;))
[05:08] <sethk> ChocoCid, see if you can find it, or something that replaces it, that is nwere.
[05:08] <ChocoCid> well, the ubuntu wiki is 2 years out of date then :(
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, what you saying ... makes no sense .. you put what in where ? and whats etc tab ?
[05:09] <raindog> jordan_:  It wasn't the official wiki....   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[05:09] <sethk> Djuuss, you said you want it to assume the answer is no after a certain amount of time.  So add a feature that does so for questions asked during install.
[05:09] <jordan_> nex_, did you ever get your SMP situation worked out?
[05:09] <sethk> Djuuss, or did I misunderstand what you meant?
[05:09] <nex_> jordan_, not really
[05:09] <amicrawle> how do i mount a ntfs drive in ubnutu
[05:09] <Djuuss> sethk, you got it, i just meant how to i suggest it?
[05:09] <Djuuss> do*
[05:09] <nex_> jordan_, i was just doing some research on it
[05:09] <ChocoCid> my HDA1 drive mounted automagically this time (on edgy)
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> mount -t ntfs /dev/hd? /media/folder_name
[05:10] <sethk> Djuuss, you look at the source for the installation program, change it do to what you want, and submit the change
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> sudo ... pardon me
[05:10] <w30> tj, Windows wants to be booted from the first hard drive so I think you need to remap hda2 to hda1 in grub. Can't quite remember the syntax for it though.
[05:10] <[> lol
[05:10] <[> b
[05:10] <Djuuss> sethk.. heh. if i knew how to do that, i'd be using gentoo or LFS
[05:10] <sethk> Djuuss, then it will be accepted or not accepted.  Probably it would either be accepted, or made an optional behavior.
[05:10] <sethk> Djuuss, that makes no sense.
[05:11] <tj> w30: thanks
[05:11] <sethk> Djuuss, lfs perhaps.  gentoo is ... well, that's off topic, I'll get yelled at.
[05:11] <tj> w30: i'll see what I can do
[05:11] <amicrawle> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what it sayes
[05:11] <sethk> Djuuss, but the whole idea of open source is that people see things they think will improve it, so they do those things, and then everyone get's the benefit of using them.
[05:11] <sethk> Djuuss, if you meant that you couldn't make that change, you underrate yourself.
[05:12] <jordan_> raindog, those instructions look good, if you are willing you can try another solution that has a slight chance of working.
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, do you have hdb1 ? sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[05:12] <Djuuss> Sethk, ok i'll try then! where would i find the source to the installation (or in this case update) thing?
[05:12] <w30> tj type grub then help map
[05:12] <sethk> Djuuss, it would take some work, surely, and the first time you delve into it is the worst, but you can do it.  If you find the idea (changing it) attractive, then try it, you'll get plenty of help.  If you don't think you would enjoy doing it, that's a different story.
[05:12] <amicrawle> yes
[05:12] <raindog> jordan_:  What do you suggest?
[05:12] <amicrawle> i have and drive
[05:13] <nex_> going to bed, gnight everyone
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, eh ah i should have said sudo fdisk -l ... you see hdb1 ?
[05:13] <amicrawle> yes
[05:13] <jordan_> raindog, type `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` and be sure to choose fglrx when asked about the driver.
[05:13] <sethk> Djuuss, there are source ubuntu repositories that have the source for everything that is used.  get onto the ubuntu site.  If you know the name of a program, you can dig out the source for it easily.  (once you learn the system, which takes a few days).
[05:13] <amicrawle> but when try to look  i get that message
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, then the exact command you type was ?
[05:14] <w30> tj, I think the line goes map "to drive" "from drive"
[05:14] <amicrawle> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what it sayes sudo  mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1
[05:14] <Djuuss> sethk i'll get to it when i up my refresh rate from 60hz to 100, i'm getting a headache. That will be after these updates finish, and after i install KDE over it
[05:14] <sethk> Djuuss, the thing to do would be to find out who worked on the part of the program you want to modify.  Then send an email to him, and ask him where he would start to look at something like that.
[05:14] <bashusr> is there a graphical way to edit grub.conf?
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, the command is sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/folder_name
[05:14] <sethk> Djuuss, ok
[05:14] <sethk> Djuuss, just a suggestion  :)
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, you got to put it somewhere
[05:15] <amicrawle> where?
[05:15] <sethk> Djuuss, I doubt you really want your vertical frequency to be 100, but definitely more than 60-
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, create a folder in /media or anywhere .. i recommend /media .. done ?
[05:15] <sethk> Djuuss, which video board do you use?
[05:15] <purplefeltangel> what does Printing: No %BoundingBox: comment in header! mean
[05:15] <sethk> purplefeltangel, that's a postscript thing, usually safe to ignore
[05:15] <Djuuss> a nvidia geforce fx 5700, on a 21 inch screen. I'm gonna run it at 1600x1200 @100hz
[05:15] <jordan_> raindog, If it asks any questions you aren't sure about either trust it and just go with the default or ask here.
[05:15] <feross> bashusr: you can use gedit
[05:16] <bashusr> is there a graphical utility to edit boot options?
[05:16] <amicrawle> made it in my home
[05:16] <amicrawle> called windwos
[05:16] <purplefeltangel> what does Printing: No %BoundingBox: comment in header! mean
[05:16] <sethk> Djuuss, ok, the card should certainly handle it.  we can force it to believe you have a monitor that can handle it.
[05:16] <feross> bashusr: oh you mean like a wizard not a text editor... hmm
[05:16] <bashusr> feross: in other wards... you gotta manually edit it yourself
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, type sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /home/username/windows <--- change username to your user name
[05:16] <bashusr> feross: yes like a wizard...
[05:16] <bashusr> fine i'll vim it.
[05:17] <Djuuss> sethk, well my monitor can handle 2048xWhathisface @ 82hz , but my eyes cant read letters that small
[05:17] <r070r0073r> 
[05:17] <r070r0073r> 0.
[05:18] <swashbucklinstev> If anyone is having problems with apt lately, and you are unable to update after a new install of Dapper, please see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1364819&postcount=4 - your problem could be related to your apt.conf. It fixed me up.
[05:18] <Djuuss> My dist-upgrade is finished, one package gave an error, /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb   is that system critical?
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> you use lvm ?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> purplefeltangel,  where are you seeing that at?
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> if not then shouldn't be
[05:18] <Djuuss> perhaps if i knew what lvm was i'd use it
[05:18] <Djuuss> !lvm
[05:18] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:18] <r070r0073r> excellent - got kismet working with the broadcom 4318...
[05:18] <raindog> jordan_:  Answering questions.....is it ctrl alt backspace to restart X?
[05:18] <Djuuss> ahhh that, no i dont
[05:19] <swashbucklinstev> Djuuss: Linux Volume Manager
[05:19] <purplefeltangel> Dr_willis: printer properties -- but never mind, i figured out what the problem was
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> i thought logical volume manager ... no ?
[05:19] <jordan_> raindog, Yes.
[05:19] <Djuuss> yeh, no i dont use it
[05:19] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: which driver are you using?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-backspace Can be set to 'force X to quit - with extreme prejudice' (ie kills X right then and there) :)
[05:19] <Djuuss> 'can be set' ? i thought it was always set like that
[05:20] <ardchoille> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Djuuss,  its often the default.. but its disabable/
[05:20] <THX-1138> Dr_willis - careful with that command ati cards dislike it better is to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:20] <Dr_willis> THX-1138,  i dont run gdm :P
[05:20] <w30> Dr_willis, how do you kill X when it takes your keyboard and mouse with it?
[05:20] <Djuuss> heh why would you disable that, its awesome
[05:20] <raindog> jordan_:  Same as before.  X server couldn't load properly.  Time to replace the xorg.conf again.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> or KDM lol
[05:20] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:20] <Dr_willis> w30,  thas when you ssh in. ;p
[05:20] <AWOSDev> w30 yeah good question
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> w30, unplug the power cord
[05:20] <AWOSDev> w30 that happened to me too - the power button :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> w30,  or if cant do that.. theres buttons on the front of the pc.. :P
[05:21] <w30> wickedpuppy, yah that works
[05:21] <Djuuss> uh oh
[05:22] <w30> wickedpuppy, go to the closet and filp the switch that says MAIN
[05:22] <Djuuss> i'm getting worried, apt-get dist-upgrade finished, i did apt-get check and it didnt find any dependancy issues.. then i typed apt-get install on a whim and now its installing loads of stuff. Should i worry?
[05:22] <cod>   How hard is it to replace nautilus with something else?
[05:22] <feross> bashusr: hmm looks like there was a grubconf but I can't find it in current repos
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> why need to off everything in the house ? :P
[05:22] <laska> Guys, here is situation: want to watch stream video, win media format, at yahoo music videos, Have Firefox. What do i have to do?
[05:22] <bashusr> feross: no problem...
[05:22] <bashusr> i'm good with vim :)
[05:22] <bashusr> i'm just trying to do it the "ubuntu" way
[05:23] <w30> wickedpuppy, then all the clocks say 88
[05:23] <ChocoCid> why? the whole point of linux is that you can do stuff how you want
[05:23] <laska> did install extension win media connectivity, not working
[05:23] <ChocoCid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:24] <Dr_willis> laska,  i saw a firefox exenesion the othe day that can 'smart download' videos from a lot of those sites.. makes it easie to play them after they are downloaded. :P not embeded
[05:24] <Djuuss> laska, apt-get cache-search mplayer
[05:24] <amicrawle> ok it is mounted on /
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> ChocoCid, not true .. linux can't make my computer fly :P
[05:24] <amicrawle> how to retrive the stuff now
[05:24] <ChocoCid> sure it can, take your linux computer on a plane
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, on / ? what happened to ya home/username/windows ?
[05:24] <r070r0073r> swashbucklinstev - windows broadcom driver (bcm43xx-fwcutter bcmv15.sys).
[05:25] <ChocoCid> F broadcom for not working right on linux
[05:25] <JSeligstein> Oooh Ubuntu auto-configures grub for you??? nice...
[05:25] <laska> E: Invalid operation cache-search
[05:25] <cynical> laska: doing sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs totem-xine totem-xine-firefox-plugin will let you play any media (assuming you have w32codecs installed)
[05:25] <amicrawle> do i do a umount to unmonut
[05:25] <r070r0073r> works fine for me... i am using it with kismet as we speak.
[05:25] <bdragonmsl> k, re-installed the drivers for glx, and tried to run the driver and this is what i got...
[05:25] <bdragonmsl> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:25] <bdragonmsl> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[05:25] <bdragonmsl> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[05:25] <ChocoCid> how do i get broadcom to work on edgy? same way as dapper?
[05:25] <Djuuss> wickedpuppy, it could if you had two external fans, one on the top aiming down and one on an extended piece of metal aiming clockwise, connected to your pc by serial port
[05:25] <sethk> bdragonmsl, the nvidia kernel module is not installed
[05:25] <THX-1138> !cafuego
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafuego - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, why you want to umount if you want to get things ?
[05:26] <bdragonmsl> where's that?
[05:26] <w30> ChocoCid, depends on what kid of batteries it has nowadays eh?
[05:26] <THX-1138> !seveas
[05:26] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:26] <amicrawle> to make a new dir
[05:26] <w30> kid/kind
[05:26] <cod>   ------  is it possible to make drawer icons bigger than 48 pixels?
[05:26] <ChocoCid> haha
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, i will keep that in mind :P
[05:26] <sethk> bdragonmsl, it is part of the package that is downloaded from the nivida web site.
[05:26] <sethk> bdragonmsl, I'm not sure where it is in repositories
[05:26] <amicrawle> make  a /home/user/windows
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, well then yah umount and mount it where you want it to be
[05:26] <laska> is only available from another source
[05:26] <laska> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[05:26] <laska> root@laska-main:/home#
[05:26] <r070r0073r> you catch that?
[05:26] <sethk> bdragonmsl, to use the stuff from nvidia.org, you must be able to install kernel source and build the kernel.
[05:26] <amicrawle> umount: /: device is busy
[05:26] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: ah, I figured you would, the linux drivers aren't mature yet but they're in the kernel or so I heard. I have a HP Pavilion dv5210us with a Broadcom bcm43xx card, where do you pick up the driver again?
[05:27] <sethk> bdragonmsl, it's not difficult to do, but it scares lot's of people.
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, are you currently in it ?
[05:27] <r070r0073r> swashbucklinstev
[05:27] <amicrawle> no trying to get to it
[05:27] <laska> id on't think have xine. Totem
[05:27] <bdragonmsl> so, do I just need to goto nvidia and download their core?
[05:27] <bdragonmsl> I mean kernel
[05:27] <sureshot> does anyone here use cedega if so do you knowwere i can get the updates manually .. the cedega channel is a ghost channel
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, whats the dir name you mounted in ?
[05:28] <amicrawle> i made it in /
[05:28] <r070r0073r> i am using an acer laptop and got it from their website (acer).
[05:28] <Djuuss> sureshot, try bittorrent.. o wait, warez are offtopic
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, you can't mount to / ... / is root partition
[05:28] <amicrawle> i want to chage it to my user dir
[05:28] <r070r0073r> winners don't do warez
[05:28] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: I bet HP has it then :-)
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, did you do mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 / ?
[05:28] <JamesFoster> Djuuss: I don't think Cedega binaries are "warez". They're not illegal, as far as I can tell.
[05:28] <r070r0073r> ya... i've got a screencap vid of what i had to do if you need help.
[05:29] <sureshot> i bought it
[05:29] <amicrawle> yes sayes it is mounted
[05:29] <Djuuss> well they are commercial apps that youre supposed to pay for in order to download
[05:29] <munkay> has anyone had any success with built-in sd/mmc card readers for laptops ?
[05:29] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: ndiswrapper seems pretty straight forward, is there anything that surprised you like maybe an unexpected configuration step? special settings?
[05:30] <JamesFoster> They don't get commonly distributed because Transgaming chucks a tantrum and threatens to stop distributing the source under the license it currently is using.
[05:30] <johny5> I used Automatix to install a couple of CD burning apps, and now all I get are coasters when I try to burn audio discs from MP3s.  Can anybody help me rectify this?
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, ah ... when you go to / ... what do you see ? /bin /etc and so on ?
[05:30] <Djuuss> jamesfoster .. what??
[05:30] <r070r0073r> nope... was pretty simple. i understand the broadcom drivers have been reverse engineered http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=410460
[05:30] <r070r0073r> didn't have much luck w/ them though
[05:30] <bdragonmsl> I found something in synaptic under nvidia kernel.  Says it's installed though.
[05:31] <sureshot> well it locks up in ubuntu just wanted some info did not mean to put someone in a tiff just a question if any could answer i would be appreciative
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> johny5, moral of the story is never use automatix ... second what cd burning apps did the script install ?
[05:31] <johny5> gnomebaker
[05:31] <johny5> My first time with Automatix.  I guess it's no good?
[05:31] <JamesFoster> Djuuss: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/05/msg02823.html
[05:31] <Djuuss> sureshot, technically you can be appreciative without anyone answering your question
[05:31] <r070r0073r> i wonder if aircrack will run on it, swashbucklinstev
[05:31] <Djuuss> thanks jamesfoster
[05:31] <r070r0073r> ;)
[05:31] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: yeah, they need tlc, I doubt they'll get it though when ndiswrapper is so easy and cheap (effort)
[05:31] <THX-1138> broadcom drivers reverse engineeered? - great now i can be arrested for the digital millenium copyright act. - ain't america grand.
[05:31] <johny5> wickedpuppy, but now none of the cd burning apps work.
[05:32] <ardchoille> johny5: Are you trying to burn something that you don't have read access to? gnomebaker won't give an error for that, it'll just burn a coaster.
[05:32] <Djuuss> sureshot: to answer your question, www.btjunkies.com, type cedega in search
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> johny5, what apps ? you said gnomebaker .. what else ?
[05:32] <swashbucklinstev> I really do heart ndiswrapper
[05:32] <w30> if you get the install program off Nvidia.com don't use the Ubuntu synaptic sources too because they will fight each other.
[05:32] <swashbucklinstev> THX-1138: I blame Abramoff
[05:32] <swashbucklinstev> :-D
[05:32] <bdragonmsl> ***w30, I tried that several times and it's just not working
[05:32] <johny5> wickedpuppy, I have rw access to everything.  It will decode the tracks fine, but when it gets about halfway through the burn, it freaks out
[05:33] <bdragonmsl> Should I just try to go back to 6.06?
[05:33] <r070r0073r> but i didn't think you could run kismet w/ ndiswrapper + broadcom... maybe you just want the device to work period. ;)
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> johny5, just gnomebaker ? then uninstall it
[05:33] <THX-1138> swashbucklinstev - Mickey Mouse is a communist - lol
[05:33] <sureshot> thanks wickedpuppy some people here are just too good to answer someone question that he cant find the answer to anyware would ask if it could have the cedega channel is a ghost town
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> and reinstall it from synaptic or apt-get ... it burns fine ..
[05:33] <johny5> Uninstalling...
[05:33] <swashbucklinstev> THX-1138: :-D
[05:33] <THX-1138> swashbucklinstev - Mickey Mouse is a facsist??
[05:33] <w30> bdragonmsl, if you make your own kernel compile then you probably need the nvidia.com installer.
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> sureshot, you sure its me ?
[05:33] <r070r0073r> catch ya later, swashbucklinstev - check out my site sometime -- http://passivemode.net
[05:34] <jordan> raindog, I got disconnected for a while so if you asked me any questions after the one about ctrl alt backspace you are going to have to repeat them.
[05:34] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: cool, thx
[05:34] <swashbucklinstev> THX-1138: Is there any limit to his deprevity?
[05:34] <r070r0073r> <- needs to sudo apt-get install life
[05:34] <THX-1138> swashbucklinstev: rofl
[05:34] <sureshot> miss read i am diabetic eyes are not to good but thanks anyway
[05:34] <Lane> I have some questions that begin "What distro is best for ...". Is there a channel that caters to these questions
[05:34] <johny5> Still no good.
[05:35] <mlwalla> Hey all.  Long time noob, first time question-asker.  trying to configure the proprietary nvidia driver, and having trouble.  Is there anyway to redirect the error messages from xserver (xwindows?) to a file that can be used for later reference.  Further, is it possible to make that happen automatically with startup?  The problem I'm having is that when I hit ctrl+alt+bckspc to test my xorg.conf settings.  Any help appreciated so t
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> johny5, pls ... explain...
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> Lane, yes
[05:35] <JSeligstein> Hey guys, whats the correct process for installing something? sudo apt-get mysql ? say?
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> to all your answers , pls use ubuntu
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Lane,  most all the disrtos can do the same jobs.. some are just designed with a specific job in mind from the start. :)   so often the best is the one that you know best.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:35] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:35] <w30> bdragonmsl, then there is the nvidia-xconfig to configure xorg.conf for you.
[05:35] <amicrawle> ok got it mounted
[05:36] <amicrawle> now there is a lock on it
[05:36] <amicrawle> how to unlock it
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, use sudo
[05:36] <johny5> wickedpuppy, removed gnomebaker and tried to burn disk with Serpentine...now it won't even decode the MP3
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> or chmod
[05:36] <sureshot> djuuss that was a good url to get rid of me thanks for nothing
[05:36] <Lane> Dr_willis, I know mepis best but I don't think I want to use it as a web/dns server.
[05:36] <JSeligstein> Dr_willis, and do i need to do an upadte ?
[05:36] <amicrawle> `windows': Read-only file system
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Lane,  you could...
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> johny5, use k3b ...
[05:36] <bsnider> is there an x configuration program?
[05:36] <Djuuss> sureshot, my intentions were not to get rid of you. I downloaded cedega from there just yesterday
[05:36] <THX-1138> swashbucklinstev: Mickey Mouse is baphonet - yes! baphonet.
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, use chmod
[05:37] <Lane> Dr_willis, not saying I couldn't.
[05:37] <jordan> raindog, I got disconnected, how is the dpkg-reconfigure going?
[05:37] <amicrawle> chmod to what
[05:37] <amicrawle> a+rx ?
[05:37] <amicrawle> a+RR
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Lane,  and from what i gatehr Mepis is  basicially using all the ubuntu repos/packages now.. and some extras..
[05:37] <amicrawle> ?????
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, 775 or 777 ...
[05:37] <mlwalla> edit: the problem is that my system hangs when I restart X to see if I got things working
[05:37] <sureshot> that was www.btjunkies.com i got homes for sell and such
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> it need not be secured anyway .. its your own machine
[05:37] <jordan> bsnider, Sort of, `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` but that probably isn't what you want.
[05:38] <amicrawle> chmod: changing permissions of `windows': Read-only file system
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Lane,  of course the heart of the disrtos are the apt-get system I guess..and the debian  type core..   the rest is just frosting on the server-cake :)
[05:38] <amicrawle> sudo chmod 777 windows
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, btw .. read only means you can still copy .. are you tryring to write ?
[05:38] <Lane> Dr_willis, Great, debian it is.
[05:38] <stargazer> i am trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy and after 2 hours of downloading it saids "error reading from server, unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing
[05:38] <Djuuss> sureshot, whoops, typo, i'm looking for the proper address now
[05:38] <stargazer> what does this mean?
[05:38] <amicrawle> no just trying to look
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, then just cd ...
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Lane,  thats always good. :P   of course once ya learn the fundamentals.. the rest is easy
[05:39] <johny5> wickedpuppy, k3b is saying unable to handle files due to unsupported format
[05:39] <amicrawle> cd: windows: Permission denied
[05:39] <sureshot> thanks and i applogize for my attitude
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> johny5, you need to get restricted modules ...
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, may i ask what you typed ?
[05:40] <swashbucklinstev> THX-1138: It may be worse than that!
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[05:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:40] <amicrawle> cd windows
[05:40] <Lane> Dr_willis, My nokia runs debian, my laptop runs debian, and my future web/dns server runs debian... if only it could run IOS like my routers
[05:40] <spasmodo> !dvd
[05:40] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:40] <amicrawle> bash: cd: windows: Permission denied
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Lane,  my NSLU2 runs a debian variant now. :P
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, ls -l and paste to us the permission pls
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> just the windows
[05:41] <Lane> Dr_willis, NSLU2?
[05:41] <amicrawle> dr-x------  1 root       root
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, sudo cd
[05:41] <amicrawle> that is what it is
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Lane,  a little fileserver. has 2 usb ports for hard drives.. by Linksys. about $80
[05:41] <jordan> sudo cd won't work.
[05:41] <Djuuss> brb restarting in what i hope will be 6.06
[05:41] <Lane> Dr_willis, cool deal I will have to check it out.
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> jordan, can help him ? i going for lunch ...
[05:42] <brian98> anyone know if apache 1.3 or 2.x can do .net stuff?
[05:42] <mlwalla> wow...lotta questions flying around in here
[05:42] <brian98> or should i go to #apache
[05:42] <jordan> wickedpuppy, What is he trying to do?
[05:42] <AngryParsley> ehh, there is a mod_mono
[05:42] <AngryParsley> but it sucks
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> brian98, go into that dir
[05:42] <Lane> Dr_willis, reccomended mirror for debian? Or should I use torrent?
[05:42] <mlwalla> is it proper etiquette to just keep asking til someone notices yours?
[05:42] <jordan> Then yes.
[05:43] <AngryParsley> brian98: ask about it in #apache
[05:43] <AWOSDev> brian98, it can host sites that end in .net
[05:43] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:43] <brian98> k
[05:43] <amicrawle> can any body help me
[05:43] <brian98> just I have been
[05:43] <johny5> wickedpuppy, it would seem that I already have them.
[05:43] <jordan> amicrawle, type `sudo su`
[05:43] <brian98> installing ubuntu severs now for a long time
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> Lane, if you have to ask us for everything .... i don't think you are ready for linux .. pls use google ...
[05:43] <brian98> and someone want windows 2003 with msssql
[05:43] <stargazer> ok
[05:43] <JoelS2>  if i connect ethernet after linux boots, how do i tell it to refresh? i thought it was ifconfig eth0 up but it didn't work.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Lane,  your speeds may vary. :P my torrent speeds are always slow. :(
[05:43] <brian98> and I really don't want the hassle ;)
[05:43] <stargazer> can you answer this? how do you save in vi?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !vi
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <JoelS2> stargazer, :w
[05:44] <AWOSDev> JoelS2, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[05:44] <Dr_willis> esc :wq
[05:44] <JoelS2> AWOSDev, thanks!!
[05:44] <brian98> !vim
[05:44] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> johny5, well .. i never use automatix so can't say whats ya machine is like now ...
[05:44] <AWOSDev> JoelS2 np
[05:44] <Dr_willis> :help    -- is handy to rember in vi as well
[05:44] <AWOSDev> I love vi :)
[05:44] <johny5> wickedpuppy, first and last time for me.  thanks for your help.
[05:44] <brian98> Dr_willis,  I prever nano
[05:44] <jordan> amicrawle, Then you should be able to `cd windows`
[05:44] <JoelS2> AWOSDev, command not found?
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> johny5, no prob ... :P
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> JoelS2, may we ask what you typed ? exactly
[05:45] <brian98> Dr_willis, I guess it's because I used wordstar in the 80's
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> oh wrong person
[05:45] <JoelS2> Exactyly what you typed
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> lunch time!
[05:45] <amicrawle> ok did now how do i see the folder  user mode with out
[05:45] <Dr_willis> NerdStar :)
[05:45] <Lane> Dr_willis, my torrent speeds are also slow...should I suspect throttling?
[05:45] <w30> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:45] <swashbucklinstev> I'm gettin out of here, twilight zone is on
[05:45] <brian98> Lane, it's usual to happen
[05:46] <wicked_lunch> eh jordan can also remind him not to use root shell always ? thanks
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Lane,  no idea there.. ive gotten good speeds on some torrents.. like ISO's when first released...  so it all depends on the torrents i guess
[05:46] <THX-1138> Lane - yes. most isps find it fashionable
[05:46] <JoelS2> Ah okay... going to check, thanks :)
[05:46] <dash`> anybody have experience with ssh and sshfs ?
[05:47] <Lane> Throttling seems to be a hot subject.
[05:48] <jordan> amicrawle, Now you want to make that folder readable by your normal, non root, user with chown...
[05:48] <johny5> wicked_lunch, that was rather silly of me...didn't install the k3b mp3 decoder lib....thanks again.
[05:48] <THX-1138> Lane - If you pay for 600kbs down and 325kbs a second up why should you be able to use it all? - heck they already limit upspeed right?
[05:49] <morriganinfligh1> helo?
[05:49] <amicrawle> so i do a chow /home/user/windwos?
[05:49] <jordan> amicrawle, To do that first get out of that directory with `cd ..`
[05:49] <morriganinfligh1> does anyone here know anything about rhythmbox?
[05:49] <jordan> amicrawle, Exactly.
[05:49] <Lane> THX-1138, Can you send me proof that throttling happens? I mean I don't doubt that it does I just haven't seen solid proof.
[05:50] <amicrawle> bash: chow: command not found
[05:50] <THX-1138> Hi cafuego.
[05:50] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown yourUserName folderPath`
[05:50] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: someone probably knows something about it
[05:50] <Larken> hello~
[05:50] <THX-1138> cafuego - Were you hosting a broadcom driver?
[05:51] <morriganinfligh1> thanks jrib...I'm new to ubuntu and to IRC..please forgive any unintended blunders
[05:51] <devnull> my gnome-panel's aren't working or responding to input anymore .... anyone run into this problem before ?
[05:51] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: it's best to just ask your real question and then see if anyone can answer it :)
[05:51] <amicrawle> chow: command not found
[05:51] <THX-1138> devnull - are you using glx?
[05:51] <jrib> amicrawle: chown  with an 'n'
[05:51] <jordan> amicrale chowN.
[05:51] <devnull> THX-1138, no im not
[05:52] <THX-1138> devnull - that was my guess. - sry
[05:52] <morriganinfligh1> *grin* thanks again, jrib....I am trying to figure out how to alter audio file properties so that rhythmbox will read the artist, title, etc
[05:52] <amicrawle> ok how do i chown the hole folder
[05:52] <devnull> hehe thank you though
[05:52] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown yourUserName folderPath`
[05:52] <JoelS> OKay, I still can't get an internet connection... does it matter if it tries to use IPv6 or IPv4?
[05:53] <Gigiya> hello
[05:53] <AWOSDev> IPv4
[05:53] <ellioTb> what up
[05:53] <devnull> i would actually like to switch over to xfce but i can't find replacements for some gnome-applets and software
[05:53] <amicrawle> chown: missing operand after `/home/amicrawler/windows
[05:53] <JoelS> AWOSDev, it appears to be trying to use IPv6
[05:53] <w30> Lane, play with this:http://www.zdnet.com.au/broadband/speedtest.htm
[05:53] <THX-1138> devnull - do you have something added launched using Sessions .. Start Up programs?
[05:53] <Gigiya> i'm new to IRC and pretty new to ubuntu
[05:53] <Larken> I've recently aquired a live disk from one of my teachers, and I tried to install it on an old laptop (it was dropped, spits out the OS NOT FOUND error.) I get to the Ubuntu startup and say run/install or something of the like and then it starts to boot/install. However, once it gets to "Configuring X" it seems to shut down and goes back to a blank blinking prompt. No keys then work and it has to be restarted. Any ideas?
[05:53] <ellioTb> devnull, why do you have to replace them? i am in xfce and everything is working for me
[05:53] <ellioTb> Gigiya, me too
[05:53] <djuuss> err
[05:53] <Lane> OK, now I feel like an idiot but ia64 is the distro I download for the standard 64bit i386 chipset?
[05:53] <morriganinfligh1> me three, gig
[05:53] <amicrawle> chown: missing operand after `/home/amicrawler/windows
[05:53] <Lane> Never done the 64 bit thing with linux.
[05:53] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.
[05:53] <amicrawle> any clues
[05:53] <ColonelPanic001> I have a USB card-reader which normally works beautifully, but now for seemingly no reason I notice the power light on it isn't even on. Is there something that could have "turned off" the USB ports?
[05:54] <djuuss> ok problem: i cant log in to X as a normal user, because of ownership problems with my home directory
[05:54] <devnull> THX-1138, nothing i added manualy but i think it might be deskbar on the panel that is messing it up
[05:54] <JoelS> AWOSDev, unless its my ISP, something is wrong, DHCP isn't working correctly or something
[05:54] <AWOSDev> JoelS, IPv4 but I'm not sure how
[05:54] <jordan> amicrawle, What are you typing exactly?
[05:54] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: it should just read the tags on the file automatically.  What does rhythmbox do currently for you?  Does it just display the filename instead?
[05:54] <w30> Lane, ia64 is Itaniam
[05:54] <AWOSDev> JoelS, I'll try helping in a little bit, I'm kinda busy right now
[05:54] <feross> Larken: when you say 'old' laptop how old are we talking.. PII ?
[05:54] <amicrawle> sudo chown -R /home/amicrawler/windows
[05:54] <Lane> well freak
[05:54] <JoelS> Anyone else know how to force IPv4?
[05:55] <ellioTb> devnull, why don't you just install xfce and check it out, takes like 30 secs to install, and then you can just swtich over to it, to see if you like it
[05:55] <devnull> ellioTb, i need something to change my cpu speed
[05:55] <ColonelPanic001> no ideas, anyone?
[05:55] <THX-1138> devnull - ah. okay. i am 2 for 2 wrong can i stop guessing now?
[05:55] <jordan> amicrawle, no...
[05:55] <devnull> ellioTb, i have had xfce on here for awhile
[05:55] <ghost> hi
[05:55] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: or do you just want to edit the current tags?
[05:55] <Larken> feross- lemme look it up, haven't used it in ages
[05:55] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.
[05:55] <ellioTb> devnull, ahh, change your CPU speed? never heard of that
[05:55] <devnull> ellioTb, that is why i installed ubuntu originally but found that gnome finally got their act together
[05:55] <ghost> who can help me
[05:55] <morriganinfligh1> jrib - on some of the files it reads everything...on other files there are no tags...so perhaps my question should be how to add tags?
[05:55] <jordan> amicrawle, You forgot the user name.
[05:55] <ellioTb> devnull, yeah, i just use xfce cause i am on an older laptop with not much ram
[05:55] <devnull> THX-1138, it probably is something starting up in the session
[05:55] <morriganinfligh1> (you got there be foer me *grin*(
[05:55] <amicrawle> chown: missing operand after `amicrawler/windows'
[05:56] <amicrawle> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[05:56] <devnull> ellioTb, technically i guess i have xubuntu though i have gnome completely installed aswell
[05:56] <amicrawle> can you spell it out 4 me please
[05:56] <jordan> amicrawle, you need to be sure you follow this exactly...
[05:56] <`kaot> Hi folks.  IDE cdrom drive(s) not working on a system with SATA.  Anyone know anything about this?
[05:56] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: ah, well there is a nice tool called 'easytag' you can install.  I also believe you can right click on the file listed in rythmbox and edit its properties that way too.  If you want to try easytag, you'll need to have enabled the universe repository
[05:56] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.
[05:56] <ghost> question : which package needed when i install alsa
[05:57] <THX-1138> devnull - careful, modifying it leaves no way to back up un modified version.
[05:57] <ellioTb> devnull, yeah, i am ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed
[05:57] <Lane> w30, should I get the i386 then?
[05:57] <crimsun> ghost: alsa's already installed by default
[05:57] <jordan> amicrawle, I think you are forgetting the user name.
[05:57] <ghost> no
[05:57] <devnull> THX-1138, are you talking about the session file ?
[05:57] <morriganinfligh1> ok, jrib...where do I get easytag and and how do I enable universe repository?
[05:57] <Larken> feross- pIII
[05:57] <morriganinfligh1> (btw, jrib, really appreciate the help)
[05:58] <amicrawle> is my user name amicrawle
[05:58] <ColonelPanic001> anyone know anything about USB devices suddenly and seemingly randomly shutting off completely?
[05:58] <amicrawle> is my user name amicrawler
[05:58] <w30> Lane, do you have a 64bit box?
[05:58] <devnull> im just glad i found a good session extension for firefox because i missed session support from galeon
[05:58] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: system > administration > synaptic is the tool you should use to install your software (or add/remove programs as well).  I'll have ubotu send you the information for the universe repository
[05:58] <jrib> ubotu: tell morriganinfligh1 about universe
[05:58] <Lane> w30, It is in the mail.
[05:58] <jordan> amicrawle, To check type exit, then cd ~
[05:58] <PFA> on opera, FLash only plays 2 seconds of any video with no sound. on firefox it will completely play but there is no sound. how do i fix these problems. please do not point me to RestrictedFormats.
[05:59] <jrib> PFA: did you setup aoss?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> flash is a bit of a disaster at this time... :(
[05:59] <amicrawle> ok did
[05:59] <PFA> jrib: i'm not sure
[05:59] <ghost> ........
[05:59] <w30> Lane, Is your 64 bit box or your 32bit box in the mail?
[05:59] <jrib> PFA: that's what is on restrictedformats ;)
[05:59] <`kaot> Hi folks.  IDE cdrom drive(s) not working on a system with SATA.  Anyone know anything about this?
[05:59] <jordan> now cd ..
[05:59] <feross> Larken: hmm not too bad. when you boot look at the boot options, could try different video settings.
[05:59] <Lane> w30, 64bit.
[05:59] <amicrawle> k
[05:59] <beefsprocket> anyone want to give me a hand with debootstrap? got a peculiar error
[06:00] <Larken> feross- I've just rebooted
[06:00] <morriganinfligh1> thanks jrib andubotu....now I have a starting place...much appreciated!
[06:00] <Larken> feross- what should I try?
[06:00] <jordan> amicrawle, BTW, I am tired right now, there are easier ways of doing this I just can't remember :)
[06:00] <jrib> PFA: there is a troubleshooting section for flash, taht should resolve your firefox flash sound problem.  I don't know about opera
[06:00] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: np
[06:00] <jordan> amicrawle, now type ls
[06:00] <feross> Larken: hold a sec.. brb
[06:00] <ColonelPanic001> very strange. Usually kubuntu even auto-mounts the usb card reader and everything
[06:01] <jordan> amicrawle, That should show you your user name.
[06:01] <ALMimoni> hi, i have creative live! card and it's doesnt run on ubuntu but run on fedora, can i copy /etc folder to ubuntu to get works?
[06:02] <amicrawle> pwd
[06:02] <ALMimoni> *sound card
[06:02] <yokobr> heeeelp! i can boot anything from cd here =/
[06:02] <amicrawle> ...   /home/amicrawler
[06:02] <w30> Lane you can install the 386 install on the 64 bit box ok and it will run at 32 bit. If you install the 64 bit install it will run at 64 bit which is better. However you will have problems getting some 3rd party stuff going on 64 bit installs like flash player and some codecs and RealPlayer.
[06:02] <THX-1138> !soundblaster
[06:02] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[06:02] <JSeligstein> Siiiiigh
[06:02] <jordan> amicrawle, Good, then your username is amicrawle
[06:02] <PFA> jrib: okay, it's all well and good, but . . . i hate Firefox and i would much rather use Opera.
[06:03] <jordan> amicrawle, What is the directory again?
[06:03] <orbin> yokobr: set it in bios?
[06:03] <THX-1138> !PFA - It is in the commercial non-free repository.
[06:03] <amicrawle> windows
[06:03] <Lane> w30, I know that I want to run the 64 bit version. The problem is at: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ there is no 64 bit install
[06:03] <beefsprocket> debootstrap anyone?
[06:03] <amicrawle> .. /home/amicrawler/windows
[06:03] <jordan> amicrawle, the full path.
[06:03] <PFA> THX-1138: yes, i have opera installed -- i'm talking about flash; there's a fix for firefox but not opera
[06:03] <jordan> sry
[06:04] <jrib> PFA: on opera the video fails you said right?
[06:04] <PFA> jrib: yeah
[06:04] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown -R amicrawle  /home/amicrawler/windows` should do it
[06:04] <jrib> PFA: yeah I have no idea why flash would work for a bit and just stop
[06:05] <PFA> sigh okay, jrib thanks anyway
[06:05] <THX-1138> PFA - I don't enable jave. - sorry.
[06:05] <Draccy> I'm having trouble getting mkfs to work. How do I make the entire drive /dev/hdb1 with reiserfs using mkfs?
[06:05] <PFA> bye
[06:05] <Lam_> !mplayer
[06:05] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[06:05] <w30> Lane, I am running 64 bit Ubuntu; I don't know about Debian except that Ubuntu is Debian under the hood so what gives? There has to be a 64 bit debian somewhere
[06:05] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:06] <jordan> amicrawle, Did that command work?
[06:06] <Draccy> ext3 is fine if you prefer.
[06:06] <yokobr> yeap, when i try to boot from cd, many errors, in any OS
[06:06] <amicrawle> chown: changing ownership of `/home/amicrawler/windows': Read-only file system
[06:06] <orbin> Draccy: tried googling for tutes?  i usually just use gparted/qtparted
[06:06] <amicrawle> still a lock on it
[06:07] <Draccy> orbin, gparted doesn't seem up to the task of completely formatting the drive. It bitches.
[06:07] <amicrawle> it;s owned by root
[06:07] <Draccy> Pardon my language if it's vulgar.
[06:07] <jordan> amicrawle, any error when you ran the command?
[06:07] <amicrawle> it;s owned by root
[06:08] <beefsprocket> Draccy: you tried mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hdb1
[06:08] <jordan> amicrawle, Did you type sudo when you ran the command?
[06:08] <beefsprocket> Draccy: or mkreiserfs ?
[06:08] <amicrawle> yes
[06:09] <jordan> amicrawle, I guess I am too tired to be helping then because I thought for sure that would work.
[06:09] <djuuss> Ok problem: I cant use normal users. When i boot up, i get a terminal, not x. I can log in as a user, but users dont have permission to enter /home, not even if i sudo chown <user> home
[06:09] <amicrawle> how do i get a  suoer user  gui  home
[06:09] <amicrawle> how do i get a  super user  gui  home
[06:09] <ChocoCid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:09] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  best to stickto the shell to do super-user-stuff
[06:09] <jordan> amicrawle, sudo nautilus, but you shouldn't use it often, it's not secure.
[06:09] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[06:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:10] <ChocoCid> er, wrong one
[06:10] <ChocoCid> i think
[06:10] <ChocoCid> ah, no, it's on there
[06:10] <jirwin> hey there. I just installed 6.06.1, and it would seem that after a short amount of time all of my usb devices, and have to restart to get them back
[06:10] <ChocoCid> at the bottom
[06:10] <djuuss> chococid was that for me?
[06:10] <ChocoCid> yeah
[06:10] <jirwin> anyone have any ideas on what it would be?
[06:10] <ChocoCid> that's got graphical login
[06:10] <ChocoCid> (as root)
[06:10] <djuuss> well i have that, its just that users dont have permission to enter /home/ and can therefor not be used
[06:10] <jordan> ChocoCid, I am not sure he neads that.
[06:11] <jordan> amicrawle, try `sudo nautilus`
[06:11] <djuuss> if i have a rj@mypc:~ $ cd /home/rj
[06:11] <jordan> amicrawle, Then you should be able to change the privaleges with the GUI.
[06:11] <djuuss> i get ' no permission'
[06:12] <ChocoCid> uh
[06:12] <ChocoCid> actually that was for amicrawle heh
[06:12] <beefsprocket> djuuss: take a look at /etc/group
[06:12] <ChocoCid> sorry
[06:12] <ChocoCid> two similar questions at the same time :P
[06:12] <djuuss> ouch.. quote from page: NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs, otherwise new login attempts may fail. If this happens and at login an error message reports: "Unable to read ICE authority file", log in using the failsafe terminal and execute the command below substituting user for your username.
[06:12] <ChocoCid> yeah, that's why you do gksudo gedit instead of sudo gedit
[06:13] <w30> Lane, go here for 64 bit Debian:http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/
[06:13] <godtvisken> does anyone know how to get user input in a batch program in DOS?
[06:13] <djuuss> chococid, or sudo startx
[06:13] <ltR20> i want to make another partition, i cant select "new" in gparted
[06:13] <ltR20> everything is greyed + locks
[06:13] <feross> Larken: hey
[06:13] <orbin> godtvisken: kind of offtopic don't ya think? ;)
[06:14] <w30> Lane Debian does not have an official stable release for 64 bit, I heard they were conservative now I know they are.
[06:14] <Larken> feross-yo
[06:14] <Lane> w30, thank you for your help.
[06:14] <feross> Larken: so what are the options?
[06:14] <jordan> w30, but they will soon.
[06:14] <djuuss> but now i have a bigger problem, 'rj'  isnt allowed to enter '/home/rj'
[06:14] <beefsprocket> w30: 64bit etch is very stable
[06:14] <Larken> feross: In the other options? as in when I press f6?
[06:15] <feross> Larken: yeah, look for video related options
[06:15] <jordan> amicrawle, Are you still having problems?
[06:15] <samuel> i'm looking for an msn compatible client that supports camera function. Any suggestions?
[06:15] <w30> jordan, I think stable to Debian is different than stable to other distros. like a rock I quess?
[06:15] <orbin> ltR20: the partitions have to be unmounted to be manipulated.
[06:15] <djuuss> samuel, i hear gaim got webcam recently
[06:16] <beefsprocket> samuel: kopete, amsn, gaim
[06:16] <Larken> Feross: It says Boot Options ._.size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw quiet splash
[06:16] <jordan> w30, Definately debian stable will run for 100 years strait if the hardware keeps up :)
[06:16] <Alien|Freak> how do I check what files a certain package installed?
[06:16] <samuel> and voice mail to?
[06:16] <jrib> Alien|Freak: dpkg -L package
[06:16] <feross> Larken: nothing on video?
[06:17] <Alien|Freak> thx jrib
[06:17] <beefsprocket> Alien|Freak: try dpkg -L packagename
[06:17] <Larken> Feross: Thats all it says below the screen when I press f6
[06:18] <tekian_> Can someone pleaseeee help me figure out why my subwoofer doesn't work?
[06:18] <beefsprocket> djuuss: how you making out there?
[06:18] <jirwin> does anyone have any idea why I am losing all of my USB devices?
[06:18] <ColonelPanic001> did they just suddenly seem like they came unplugged?
[06:18] <ColonelPanic001> as in, power light is off and everything?
[06:19] <jirwin> ColonelPanic001: yah
[06:19] <ColonelPanic001> Same here.
[06:19] <ColonelPanic001> No idea.
[06:19] <jirwin> and now none of the ports work. I have to restart
[06:19] <djuuss> beefsprocket crutching my way through the molasses that is chmod
[06:19] <jirwin> what is your computer?
[06:19] <ColonelPanic001> I refuse to restart. heh
[06:19] <tekian_> !e1705
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e1705 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <tekian_> !HDA Intel
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HDA Intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <feross> Larken: what laptop is it? brand,model, etc
[06:20] <jirwin> what type of computer do you have ColonelPanic001 ?
[06:20] <djuuss> beefsprocket, ok im officially stuck.
[06:20] <tekian_> !alsa
[06:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:20] <ColonelPanic001> Uh, a mish-mash of part parts I bought
[06:20] <beefsprocket> djuuss: who owns your home directory?
[06:20] <jirwin> ahh ok. So it isn't limited to my model of laptop...phew.
[06:20] <Larken> Compaq Presario 1200 XL110
[06:20] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[06:21] <AWOSDev> Presario 1200?  the old one or the new one?
[06:21] <djuuss> beefsprocket err, i think root does
[06:21] <Larken> Old one
[06:21] <AWOSDev> they had a 1200 that was a Pentium MMX 150MHz
[06:21] <AWOSDev> coolness
[06:21] <AWOSDev> I have an LTE 5150
[06:21] <ellioTb> just ordered more ram to up this laptop to 512megs, this thing seems SOOOO slow
[06:21] <samuel> how can i install amsn in a terminal?
[06:21] <ellioTb> is there anything else that could make it so slow
[06:21] <tekian_> samuel:sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:22] <ltR20> orbin, how do i do that?
[06:22] <beefsprocket> djuuss: ls -al /home to check, then use chown -R djuss:djuss /home/djuss (replace your nick with user name)
[06:22] <geoaxis> hello people
[06:22] <geoaxis> i changed the positions of PCI cards on my desktop
[06:23] <geoaxis> now my ubuntu wont boot for some reason
[06:23] <ellioTb> apps just load slower than BALLLLSSS on mine
[06:23] <beefsprocket> tried changing them back geoaxis?
[06:23] <tekian_> Need Help: Subwoofer on Dell Inspiron e1705 refuses to work. Card: HDA Intel Mixer: SigmaTel STAC9200.
[06:23] <geoaxis> beefsprocket:  no use
[06:23] <beefsprocket> tried recovery mode?
[06:24] <geoaxis> done that too
[06:24] <djuuss> beefsprocket, ok that didnt return any errors so sounds good. I'm logged into x as root now, so brb
[06:24] <feross> Larken: looking here to see if anything will help http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/compaq.html
[06:24] <geoaxis> it gets stuck on  trying to find root
[06:24] <beefsprocket> you're not booting off a pci ide card right?
[06:24] <Daught> hello. I am trying to configure my printer. I go to system> admin>printing. My printer gets recognized and I go through the wizzard. when I am done there is no new printer added. is there something specific I should put in location?
[06:25] <Larken> oh thats a cool sight
[06:25] <Larken> site*
[06:25] <tekian_> Anyone? Subwoofer? Please? =(
[06:26] <Tweak> If anyone has a got a sec and can help me get apt to accept the 32 bit wine repositories on a amd-64 machine I would really appreciate it :D
[06:26] <rockstar_> Can anyone point me to a fglrx install howto that's worth a damn?  This is MUCH harder to install than it is on debian... I thought it was supposed to be backwards
[06:26] <jrib> !fglrx
[06:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <rockstar_> Tweak, you'll probably have to set up a 32-bit chroot
[06:26] <beefsprocket> tekian_: seen this? http://www.notebookforums.com/thread169312.html
[06:27] <jirwin> rockstar_: that one! yup :)
[06:27] <MrBIggZ> Greetings! I have two questions, fairly simple in nature.  The first is, is there a command when using apt-get to search for a package?  For example in Fedora you would use 'yum search <package name>'.  Second question is when you install a package via apt-get and using a GDM (I'm using KDE) shouldn't it automatically put an item in the appropriate menu slot?  I did an apt-get for firefox but it never put anything in the internet slot on 
[06:27] <odyssevs> apt-cache search
[06:27] <beefsprocket> rockstar_, Tweak, no, you can use dpkg -i --force-all on the 32bit deb
[06:27] <Halpo> how does linux work in general....do different distributions modify the kernel when they build, or is there a standard kernel build that the distro's adopt?
[06:27] <tekian_> beefsproket: Yes, but I couldnt find anything on the subwoofer =(
[06:27] <jrib> MrBIggZ: apt-cache search
[06:27] <MrBIggZ> noted .. one down one to go!
[06:27] <beefsprocket> tekian_: seems like there might not be a driver for it?
[06:28] <jrib> ubotu: tell MrBIggZ about apt
[06:28] <rockstar_> beefsprocket, Do you really think it's a good idea to mix the packages like that?
[06:28] <geoaxis> beefsprocket:  no i am booting off hda
[06:28] <jrib> MrBIggZ: there is also #kubuntu, they may know more about how the kde menu acts
[06:28] <MrBIggZ> this is the first time i've used a debian driven system
[06:28] <tekian_> beefsprocket: In other words I'm basically screwed? =P I have perfect sound out the front 4 on the laptop. Its just the small little sub that's not activating
[06:28] <rockstar_> Halpo, a little bit of both.
[06:28] <MrBIggZ> ah .. ok! i'll head over there! thanks for part of the help though!!
[06:28] <Rookie_> sometimes it can take a min before the menu is updated ...
[06:28] <rockstar_> There is a "vanilla" kernel that everyone uses and builds off of.
[06:29] <Tweak> Aight cool, I will try that
[06:29] <MrBIggZ> Rookie .. its been 3 days
[06:29] <Rookie_> ohh
[06:29] <beefsprocket> tekian_: http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg03677.html -- maybe alsa from cvs?
[06:29] <feross> Larken: have you tried F4 on boot?
[06:29] <beefsprocket> rockstar_: I've done that on a 64bit dapper install, no problems, have to grab a few libraries, not much work though
[06:29] <w30> MrBIggZ, use the Applications, Accessories Ala-Carte Menu editor and add it yourself. The automatic adding is only done for the Applications Add Remove chooser
[06:29] <xzk> whats the difference in the XChat that comes with Ubuntu, and the other XChat that you have to download ?
[06:30] <tekian_> beefsprocket: Read that too. was a little iffy when I saw it sort of dampens the quality of sound
[06:30] <beefsprocket> geoaxis: try booting a livecd and chrooting into your installed system
[06:30] <THX-1138> chown command for owner:group with least permissions?
[06:30] <rockstar_> Hm, how does it deal with binary codecs in mplayer??
[06:30] <feross> xzk: none
[06:30] <Rookie_> xzk - try it and find out ;)
[06:30] <xzk> they seem a little different
[06:30] <freakabcd> hi all
[06:30] <THX-1138> chown none  /path/to/file  ?
[06:30] <beefsprocket> tekian_: I'd say try it (make debs so you can uninstall) -- let your ears be the judge
[06:30] <freakabcd> what happened with the www.ubuntu.com site?
[06:30] <xzk> is XChat the best IRC Client for linux
[06:31] <Larken> feross- I was just messing with it, I don't know which I should try
[06:31] <freakabcd> did they change dns recently or something?
[06:31] <feross> xzk: maybe the look but unless it's a different version probably not very important changes
[06:31] <xzk> what version do you guys use
[06:31] <feross> Larken: give F4 a shot on boot.
[06:31] <freakabcd> i go to ubuntu.com and its some Bell Land Improvement, Inc. website!
[06:31] <freakabcd> can someone check if www.ubuntu.com goes to the ubuntu website?
[06:31] <beefsprocket> freakabcd: try 82.211.81.166
[06:32] <Rookie_> freakabcd - strange, because its right at my end ....
[06:32] <Larken> Feross: My options are 640x480x16, 640x480x32, 800x600x16, 800x600x32
[06:32] <feross> xzk: I irssi ;)
[06:32] <beefsprocket> freakabcd: it does
[06:32] <tekian_> beefsprocket: I'll give it a try. Where on the site is the link to the patch? Cant seem to find it x_x
[06:32] <beefsprocket> freakabcd: ping it
[06:32] <xzk> feross: where can i get irssi, never heard of it?
[06:32] <beefsprocket> tekian_: i'd say grab the cvs from the alsa site
[06:32] <freakabcd> what the heck: http://82.211.81.166/
[06:32] <feross> Larken: 640x480x16
[06:32] <beefsprocket> xzk: apt-get install irssi
[06:32] <Rookie_> apt-get install irssi
[06:32] <freakabcd> thats the same Bell Land Improvement, Inc website!
[06:32] <jrib> freakabcd: that ip takes me to ubuntu's site
[06:32] <freakabcd> i'll post a screenshot if required
[06:32] <Rookie_> bitchx is a good one too
[06:33] <smoked1> I like to use dreamweaver but I switched to Ubuntu. What can I install for Ubuntu that has the same split view as dreamweaver?
[06:33] <freakabcd> jrib, it doesn;t for me.. grr..
[06:33] <freakabcd> which is strange
[06:33] <beefsprocket> freakabcd: does the name resolve to signey.ubuntu.com ?
[06:33] <smoked1> Thats what I really miss about it.
[06:33] <freakabcd> cos this is accessing by ip.
[06:33] <freakabcd> beefsprocket, lemme check
[06:33] <Larken> Feross: Ok, I'm going to give it a shot
[06:33] <beefsprocket> smoked1: try quanta or bluefish, nvu is good too
[06:33] <feross> xzk: it's a console chat program so you might not like it.
[06:33] <smoked1> beefsprocket: Thanks I will
[06:33] <w30> freakabcd, www.ubuntu.com works for me
[06:33] <freakabcd> beefsprocket, signey.ubuntu.com.      1800    IN      A       82.211.81.166
[06:33] <beefsprocket> quanta is great
[06:34] <beefsprocket> freakabcd: that's totally bizarre
[06:34] <freakabcd> beefsprocket, wait i'll post screenshot
[06:34] <beefsprocket> i don't doubt it
[06:34] <xzk> feross: console chat ?
[06:34] <freakabcd> wtf??
[06:34] <freakabcd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:34] <tekian_> beefsprocket: I'm a bit new to all this, could you give a real quick walkthrough on compiling the driver from the cvs?
[06:34] <freakabcd> goes to the same shitty Bell Land Improvement, Inc. website!!
[06:34] <American-Tech> Having trouble with sound on my new laptop.
[06:35] <Rookie_> du a tracepath
[06:35] <jrib> freakabcd: microsoft is taking over your connection!  I don't that's really strange
[06:35] <Rookie_> do*
[06:35] <beefsprocket> freakabcd: take a look at your /etc/hosts file
[06:35] <beefsprocket> tekian_: one sec
[06:35] <freakabcd> this is freaking me out man
[06:35] <TooRight> Sorry to interrupt, but how do I register with freenode? I can't find anything in the motd, nor on the freenode site
[06:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell TooRight about register
[06:35] <xzk> tooright: I'm wondering the same thing
[06:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell xzk about register
[06:35] <freakabcd> beefsprocket, my etc/hosts file has nothing interesting
[06:35] <TooRight> lol xzk... thank you, now i don't feel so bad, lol :p
[06:36] <Larken> Feross: hangs up in the same place when I did that
[06:36] <feross> xzk: yeah, you open up a console/terminal window and run irssi. It's all in the terminal so you can't use the mouse to switch between chat rooms etc
[06:36] <xzk> jrib: ty
[06:36] <freakabcd> beefsprocket, and accessing _with ip_ should do no resolving!
[06:36] <Rookie_> freakabcd - do a tracepath
[06:36] <xzk> feross: ah.. yeah prob not my cup of tea, i'm not good at using the linux terminal/console commands
[06:36] <jordan> ubotu: tell jordan about register
[06:37] <xzk> test test
[06:37] <beefsprocket> tekian_: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=27464
[06:37] <beefsprocket> tekian_: then you want to use make & checkinstall
[06:37] <freakabcd> Rookie_, umm.. tracepath shows no reply after 16 hops!
[06:37] <beefsprocket> tekian_: have you built packages from source before?
[06:38] <freakabcd> Rookie_, i'll paste on a pastesite
[06:38] <jordan> ubotu: tell jordan about register
[06:38] <feross> xzk: sure, it takes a bit to get used to but I like that I have maximum screen space for the chat screen instead of panels and tabs all over the place. Just different tastes
[06:38] <xzk> how do i change the color of my own text in XChat.. i changed the background to black and the text to white.. so now it shows everybodys white text on black background.. but my text is dark gray, cant figure it out
[06:38] <tekian_> beefsprocket: Yes, I just always found it a bit messy sometimes =P. Tend to always look for deb packages :)
[06:38] <jordan> !register
[06:38] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:38] <feross> Larken: hmm still
[06:38] <beefsprocket> tekian_: well, checkinstall will make .deb files for you when you run it
[06:38] <freakabcd> ok, what the heck is going on.
[06:39] <freakabcd> any website i go to is going to this stupid bell land improvement thingy!
[06:39] <Rookie_> smurfattack ;) ?
[06:39] <freakabcd> even google.com
[06:39] <freakabcd> but everything resolves perfectly to the right ip!
[06:39] <jrib> freakabcd: what isp?
[06:39] <freakabcd> jrib, dude. i'm at uni!!
[06:39] <freakabcd> and the next machine to me (my desktop) works fine!
[06:40] <jrib> oh
[06:40] <beefsprocket> freakabcd: how about checking the output of route?
[06:40] <beefsprocket> arp?
[06:40] <xzk> test
[06:40] <xzk> yay i got it
[06:40] <freakabcd> beefsprocket, i've done a network restart already
[06:40] <Larken> feross- you think I should try another form of linux? that kinda sucks though, eh?
[06:40] <newbi3> hello
[06:40] <xzk> hi newbi3
[06:40] <jordan> freakabcd, Try typing the ip adress as the URL.
[06:41] <freakabcd> everything resolves. i even did a synaptic update and upgrade for a few packages just now!
[06:41] <tekian_> beefsprocket: What am I looking for in the cvs tree?
[06:41] <BluR> why is it that I can't echo the environment variables that are set in /etc/environment until I do ". /etc/environment"
[06:41] <freakabcd> jordan, same effect
[06:41] <newbi3> how can i burn an iso image?!
[06:41] <Rookie_> 858 users - say hi to newbi3
[06:41] <beefsprocket> freakabcd: how about using the machine's cable next to you?
[06:41] <newbi3> lol
[06:41] <newbi3> :P
[06:41] <jordan> What about wget?
[06:41] <beefsprocket> tekian_: I think you just want alsa for "modulename"
[06:41] <freakabcd> beefsprocket, err.. i don;t think thats going to matter
[06:42] <jrib> newbi3: right click, write to disc
[06:42] <jordan> freakabcd, Does wget always download the same file?
[06:42] <xzk> test
[06:43] <xzekution> test
[06:43] <jordan> !iso
[06:43] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:43] <MrKeuner> hi, which utility was it that checks md5sums of binaries in a package. (Not for the package as a whole)
[06:43] <AWOSDev> !test
[06:43] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:43] <freakabcd> ok...
[06:43] <freakabcd> my firefox is borked somehow!
[06:43] <feross> Larken: The second option a Safe Graphics Mode?
[06:43] <xzk> yeah, I definately like XChat more then Konversation
[06:43] <freakabcd> just tried from kinks and it works perfectly..
[06:44] <freakabcd> man what the heck happened to my firefox :(
[06:44] <jordan> freakabcd, Are you using bon echo?
[06:44] <xzk> bon echo = poopcrap
[06:44] <Larken> Feross- Thats what i'm trying now
[06:44] <freakabcd> bon echo? whatever the heck is that
[06:44] <jordan> xzk, Why do you say that?
[06:44] <jldugger__> its the beta of firefox 2
[06:44] <Larken> Feross- nope, hung up in the same place
[06:44] <jldugger__> its in edgy
[06:44] <tekian_> beefsprocket: I'm so lost =(
[06:45] <xzk> the bon echo i used for winxp always crashed
[06:45] <freakabcd> then no. i'm using the regular firefox
[06:45] <American-Tech> Hi I have a gateway mx6448 laptop and I am having trouble with sound. I need hellp finding and installing drivers
[06:45] <jordan> freakabcd, Try downloading a file with Firefox maybe?
[06:45] <xzk> jordan: i would have like 10 tabs open using bon echo on winxp,  and the browser would crash and I'd lose all my tabs and everything I was doing
[06:46] <freakabcd> jordan, lemme just update firefox. there was an update in synaptic..
[06:46] <jordan> xzk, Thats why it's still beta :)
[06:46] <freakabcd> hopefully that fixes the problem
[06:46] <xzk> 1507
[06:47] <jordan> freakabcd, But were is the fun in that ;)
[06:47] <xzk> You guys ever had a problem with your mouse where it will double click everything? I may have dropped it or something... I'm not sure.. but it always double clicks.. well I should say Most of the time it does bc I've kind of learned how to make it single click sometimes.. but its extemely frustrating
[06:48] <sproingie> time to buy a new mouse
[06:48] <freakabcd> in synaptic, how do i check which repo a package comes from?
[06:48] <freakabcd> right-click properties?
[06:48] <jrib> xzk: yes, I bought a new mouse
[06:48] <jordan> xzy, Even though it is a hardware problem ( most likely ) you may be able to fix it using software debouncing.
[06:48] <feross> Larken: there's probably a way to start the boot cd without X but I think if the boot CD doesn't detect your screen it's going to be a bit of a hassle to get it setup. It's probably some issue with the video card.
[06:48] <freakabcd> it doesn;t show the actual repo the package is from
[06:49] <jrib> xzk: actually, what I did for a while was use middle click as left click, but you won't enjoy that for too long
[06:49] <xzk> jrib: holy crap thats a great idea
[06:49] <xzk> mouses are expensive!
[06:49] <xzk> $40+ dollars
[06:49] <Joker> ... mouses?
[06:49] <xzk> mice
[06:49] <freakabcd> err.. still no vim7 in the repo?
[06:49] <xzk> its not an animal.. do u spell it mice ?
[06:50] <Larken> Feross: hm. alright, thanks for the effort
[06:50] <jrib> freakabcd: it's in edgy
[06:50] <Dr_willis> $40 is for an ok Mouse.:P
[06:50] <Joker> Anyway, I'll just ask my question and skiddadle
[06:50] <Dr_willis> I like my mx518
[06:50] <jordan> Larken, What is your problem? ( I am too lazy to search through conversations but I think I might be able to help )
[06:50] <feross> Larken: sure
[06:50] <xzk> i saw a $100+ mouse on newegg.. some kind of Laser dealiemajig
[06:50] <Joker> What do all of that 'hda' 'hdb' 'hdc' and the like mean?
[06:50] <freakabcd> jrib, and i can;t install that deb on dapper can i? without updating a bunch of other stuff
[06:51] <freakabcd> you guys release too soon.
[06:51] <freakabcd> i think edgy is coming up too fast
[06:51] <jldugger> 6.06 is supported for a long time, hence LTS
[06:51] <jrib> freakabcd: well you could try to rebuild it on dapper.  I think seveas' repos has packages for vim7 on dapper.  But edgy will be out by the end of the month if you want to just wait
[06:51] <jldugger> freakabcd, you dont have to migrate to edgy
[06:51] <freakabcd> jrib, end of this month?
[06:51] <freakabcd> oh man.
[06:51] <jrib> freakabcd: release every 6 months
[06:51] <freakabcd> jldugger, but for new packages? i have to update
[06:51] <jldugger> well wtf
[06:51] <gr8rahul>  i am trying to compile "file " package .. but it gives me the error "file: could not find any magic files!"
[06:52] <freakabcd> unless i like having a hybrid and soon to be borked system
[06:52] <jldugger> you want new packages, but not as often?
[06:52] <unfknblvbl> haha magic files
[06:52] <jldugger> although, you do have a point, edgy will be released less than six months after dapper.
[06:52] <adEe> what does this mean:
[06:52] <jldugger> but dapper was just pushed back
[06:52] <adEe> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does
[06:52] <adEe> not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected.  This can happen if the
[06:52] <adEe> kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command
[06:52] <adEe> in your kernel directory.  In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel.
[06:53] <adEe> oooppss
[06:53] <adEe> my bad
[06:53] <freakabcd> jldugger, not that. could you give me a reason for not having a vim7 package in dapper repo?
[06:53] <freakabcd> theres lots of other stuff thats being updated in the repo for dapper. i see lots and lots of updates for gnome stuff. why not a package for vim7?
[06:53] <jordan> freakabcd, Did you check backports?
[06:53] <Joker> What do all of that 'hda' 'hdb' 'hdc' and the like mean?
[06:54] <xzk> ubuntu preinstalled software like ekiga softphone that I *don't think* I want? I'm not sure how to get rid of it
[06:54] <Dr_willis> adEe,  its looking for stuff in /usr/src/linux  which you dont have.. you may need to use 'ln -s' to  link linux to your klernel soucre dir.
[06:54] <jldugger> i dont see gnome 2.16 in backports
[06:54] <SEWilco> I can't get any output from pdfimages.  Xpdf runs OK.  Suggestions?  I'm not finding PBM/PNM utilities in my system nor in packages.
[06:54] <freakabcd> bah.. all minor, not major version number..
[06:54] <adEe> Dr_willis: what do you mean? im not used to ln'ing stuff
[06:55] <freakabcd> anyway, i believe i feel this because of what you pointed out: edgy is < 6 away from dapper
[06:55] <Madpilot> jldugger, it probably won't be - too large, too many depends, etc
[06:55] <jldugger> Madpilot, that was my point, i believe
[06:55] <freakabcd> err.. and vim7?
[06:55] <freakabcd> too large and too many deps? lol
[06:55] <jldugger> presumably nobody's willing to backport it
[06:56] <Dr_willis> adEe,  what are you trying to compile anyway?
[06:56] <freakabcd> anyway, i'll stop with this package business now.
[06:56] <adEe> Dr_willis: i do have "/usr/src/linux"
[06:56] <freakabcd> and start with another package business :)
[06:56] <adEe> Dr_willis: vmware
[06:56] <adEe> Dr_willis: vmware player
[06:56] <Dr_willis> ls -l linux
[06:56] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 28 2006-09-23 20:10 linux -> linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686/
[06:56] <freakabcd> why aren't you guys considering binary deltas for upgrades even in edgy?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> adEe,   had to make a soft link from my runnign kernel source dir TO the linux dir..  like that shows in ls -l linux
[06:56] <jordan> adEe, You know vmware is in the repos right?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> adEe,  for vmware server to install properly
[06:56] <adEe> Dr_willis: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root src 23 2006-10-01 04:01 linux -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.17.8
[06:57] <freakabcd> i know its too late. but waay back when someone made a sample implementation that worked, you guys just said: its not high priority
[06:57] <Dr_willis> vmware PLAYER is in the repos.. not the server
[06:57] <Dr_willis> adEe,  now do a 'uname -a' and see what kernel ya got.
[06:57] <crimsun> freakabcd: because it isn't. It's Edgy+1 material.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> !info vmware
[06:57] <cratuki> I've got a new machine to install linux on. I wanted to have it use software raid across that board. I have created an image of 6.06 alt. Is this the best starting point for such a setup?
[06:57] <ubotu> Package vmware does not exist in any distro I know
[06:57] <Dr_willis> !info vmware-server
[06:57] <ubotu> Package vmware-server does not exist in any distro I know
[06:57] <adEe> Dr_willis: i got 2.6.18
[06:57] <jldugger> !info vmware-player
[06:57] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[06:57] <tjs> hi, lets suppose I'm a hacker for a startup who is also the defacto sys admin, lets suppose we have our primary dns/web/mail server (rather critical) running hoary for ages, suppose someone here decides to upgrade it from hoary->dapper directly without telling me, and now its fucked
[06:58] <Dr_willis> adEe,  your linux link is wrong then.. it needs to point to the current runnignkernel
[06:58] <adEe> Dr_willis: i know, i noticed that
[06:58] <Madpilot> tjs, first, arrange to get that someone fired.
[06:58] <adEe> Dr_willis: how do i do it then?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> adEe,  Good man! :)
[06:58] <tjs> the wiki suggests hoary->dapper is very bad, dont do it, and suggests hoary->breezy->dapper
[06:58] <Dr_willis> remove the link. make a new one with ln -s
[06:58] <Madpilot> tjs, the wiki is right
[06:58] <jordan> Dr_willis, Sorry, I am going to go to sleep now before I accidently tell someone to rm -r their root ;) ( didn't give the full command just in case ;) )
[06:58] <SEWilco> Problem: "pdfimages" is doing nothing.  And I'd like the PBM/PNM conversion tools but can't find a package with them (and no "pbm" in /usr/lib/*).
[06:58] <adEe> Dr_willis: can you do it with me step by step
[06:59] <Dr_willis> 1) remove the linux link.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> 2) use ln -s to make a new link. :P
[06:59] <tjs> Madpilot, so hoary->dapper is totally never going to work
[06:59] <tjs> ?
[06:59] <djuuss> not if you wanna boot your system afterwards
[06:59] <freakabcd> tjs, haha..
[06:59] <adEe> Dr_willis: foreal, how do you remove its current link?
[06:59] <tjs> at this point should I try to do an upgrade to breezy?
[06:59] <ChocoCid> so what's up with edgy not letting alt-leftarrow and alt-rightarrow go forward and backwards in firefox/bon echo?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> adEe,  with 'rm' like you remove eerything else.
[06:59] <adEe> oh
[06:59] <xzk> I just removed ekiga softphone from my computer.. and while it was doing that it also removed "ubuntu desktop"... is that bad ?
[06:59] <tjs> or should I pull off the data and rebuild the machine?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:59] <Madpilot> tjs, at this point, your best bet might just be a total reinstall...
[07:00] <tjs> ok
[07:00] <tjs> fuck
[07:00] <freakabcd> tjs, the distro-updates i think sorta started working properly from breezy onwards.
[07:00] <tjs> ok
[07:00] <tjs> I hate my life
[07:00] <freakabcd> tjs, i'm just hoping i won;t have problems dapper->edgy
[07:00] <jldugger> heh
[07:00] <DBO> tjs, watch the swearing please
[07:00] <deltab> ChocoCid: shortcut bound to something else?
[07:00] <tjs> DBO: sorry
[07:00] <ChocoCid> er, i dunno, this is a default install atm
[07:00] <adEe> Dr_willis: which one do you want me to remove, the dir 'linux' or ?
[07:00] <jldugger> this install is on dapper, and i started with either hoary or warty (i cant remember)
[07:00] <aeroSoul> xzk: if you dont need a desktop its ok =)
[07:01] <djuuss> Hey my permissions are skewed. If i make a new user and try to log in, it says ' your home folder is listed as /home/user, but it appears not to exist'
[07:01] <Madpilot> Hoary->Breezy worked perfectly for me; Breezy->Dapper blew up. I'm nervous about Dapper->Edgy now, myself ;)
[07:01] <DBO> Madpilot, eh I got this box to edgy all the way from sarge
[07:01] <DBO> Madpilot, it can be done =)
[07:01] <jldugger> heh
[07:01] <xzk> aeroSoul: did i mess up my ubuntu?
[07:01] <Lam_> my totem-gstreamer lags when i try to play back h264 encodes from an mkv container, but the same file doesn't lag when i play it on mplayer
[07:01] <Lam_> why?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> adEe,  linux is not a directroy its a link TO the actual kernel source directory
[07:01] <xzk> fuck
[07:02] <aeroSoul> xzk: yes. use apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to fix it
[07:02] <Dr_willis> adEe,  it needs to be removed and remade to point to the right place
[07:02] <SEWilco> Am I hearing that autoupdates aren't keeping my system current?  How can I know if I've been updated to the current stable version?
[07:02] <xzk> ok cool
[07:02] <DBO> xzk, you too, less on the swearing please
[07:02] <adEe> Dr_willis: so just: rm linux
[07:02] <adEe> ?
[07:02] <raknam> how do i access my ubuntu machine's vnc server from windows? just download a vnc viewer?
[07:02] <adEe> in /usr/src dir?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> yes... try it and see
[07:02] <Madpilot> SEWilco, the auto-updates should be working just fine. Current stable is still Dapper (6.06.1)
[07:02] <mortal5> just out of curiosity, what is the minimal ubuntu server install?
[07:02] <xzk> DBO: sorry, I accidently uninstalled my Ubunto Desktop :(
[07:02] <mortal5> how big
[07:02] <Dr_willis> raknam,  i like 'ultravncserver/viewer'
[07:02] <djuuss> mortal5 350mb
[07:03] <DBO> xzk, no big deal, just reinstall it =P  (you mean the meta-package right?)
[07:03] <SEWilco> OK, so how do I know this thing I'm running is called Dapper?
[07:03] <raknam> dr_willis, ubuntu already has a vnc server installed though right?
[07:03] <raknam> i mean the standard installation
[07:03] <adEe> Dr_willis: ok, its removed, how do you relink it now
[07:03] <cafuego> SEWilco: Run 'lsb_release -a'
[07:03] <adEe> with ln -s
[07:03] <Dr_willis> raknam,  it has a 'share the current running desktop' kind of vnc server.. I normally install vnc4server
[07:03] <brosnan> ChocoCid: works for me on a mozilla build of firefox 2
[07:03] <xzk> DBO: no, I uninstalled ekigo softphone - in the synaptics deal.. and when it was uninstalled it.. it said removing "ubuntu desktop" too :(
[07:03] <Dr_willis> ln -s SOMTHING SOMTHING else
[07:03] <ChocoCid> blarg
[07:03] <Dr_willis> man ln :) i always get it back2ards
[07:03] <jldugger> ChocoCid, ive noticed something similar
[07:04] <DBO> xzk, oh yeah, just leave ekiga installed
[07:04] <mortal5> djuuss, ty good to know
[07:04] <jldugger> only one of the alt buttons works
[07:04] <SEWilco> Dapper.  OK.  Thanks.
[07:04] <ChocoCid> doesn't matter for me :(
[07:04] <xzk> DBO: I dont like it or use it
[07:04] <raknam> dr_willis, will that be available in the repositories or should i go download it?
[07:04] <ChocoCid> also, why'd they switch from 4 workspaces to 2 from dapper > edgy?
[07:04] <djuuss> Nooooo i'm stuck >.<
[07:04] <Dr_willis> raknam,  its in the repos.
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !info vnc4server
[07:04] <xzk> aeroSoul: it's not working
[07:04] <ubotu> vnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[07:04] <DBO> xzk, then dont use it, its really just best to leave it there
[07:05] <raknam> nice, thanks dr_willis
[07:05] <SEWilco> No suggestions why "pdfimages" doesn't work, nor what package has PBM/PNM image conversion tools?
[07:05] <xzk> DBO: It's not working help
[07:05] <AtKaaZ> hi, is there a way to see all hard links' paths of a given filename ? ie. if a file had 5 hard links can one see them all exactly where there are?
[07:05] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, did they? That's uncool, but I guess it confuses some people... (I use 8 virtual desktops myself...)
[07:05] <Dr_willis> raknam,  the tightvncserver seems to have some bugs in it.
[07:05] <MrKeuner> hi, which utility was it that checks md5sums of binaries in a package. (Not for the package as a whole)
[07:05] <DBO> xzk, what isnt working?
[07:05] <xzk> can I PM it to you
[07:05] <djuuss> basically, users cant see or arent allowed to enter /home
[07:05] <ChocoCid> Madpilot, yeah, i see 2 here on a default (as of yet) install
[07:05] <DBO> xzk, if you have identified with nickserv you can
[07:05] <xzk> crap
[07:05] <eclipse75> quick question, can i make a partition for the entire home directory? or will this interfere with things
[07:05] <ChocoCid> wondering how to get around that
[07:06] <ChocoCid> also, now my left/right arrows aren't even moving in text in xchat... let me test that in gedit
[07:06] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, right-click on the desktop switcher thing, choose Properties, set the number of desktops you want
[07:06] <djuuss> eclipse75: thats a good idea
[07:06] <ChocoCid> yeah, left/right arrows aren't working at all
[07:06] <Dr_willis> everyone needs 100000 desktops!
[07:06] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:06] <ChocoCid> except, they can move horizontal scrollbars
[07:06] <ChocoCid> so... wtf :\
[07:06] <eclipse75> so it wont interfere with anything as long as its in the fstab?
[07:06] <brosnan> right click on the desktop icons -> properties
[07:06] <lumgwada> hello I've had problems with wireless since upgrading from breezy to dapper... I notice the wireless card got changed on my system from wlan0 to eth0. Is there a specific how to fix for this scenario at all? cheers
[07:07] <ChocoCid> meh, i'll restart overnight and fiddle with stuff tomorrow :P
[07:07] <djuuss> eclipse75 are you partioning now? or is this on a running system
[07:07] <eclipse75> im running the ubuntu live cd
[07:07] <eclipse75> i have slack installed but going to give ubuntu a try
[07:08] <eclipse75> i know my way around linux, just never tried this
[07:08] <djuuss> then during installation you get a partitioning dialog, its pretty self-explanatory
[07:08] <czer323> !dvd
[07:08] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:08] <eclipse75> alright then ill just cp over my entire home directory :)
[07:08] <jldugger> if youve managed to survive slack, the advanced graphical manager should be doable
[07:08] <djuuss> so yes, you can choose to put /home on its own partition during installation without even having to touch the fstab
[07:08] <ChocoCid> yay apt :)
[07:09] <ChocoCid> <3 apt
[07:09] <ArrenLex> apt ftw.
[07:09] <ChocoCid> <3 the graphical version too, i just installed like 70 programs at once
[07:09] <adEe> Dr_willis: drwxr-sr-x   2 root       src            4096 2006-10-05 01:06 linux
[07:09] <adEe> Dr_willis: it didn't link
[07:09] <jldugger> i really don't like synaptic yet
[07:09] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis? Are you here AGAIN? xD Honestly!
[07:09] <eclipse75> well thanks djuuss
[07:10] <Dr_willis> ya did it wrong then.. cd to the /usr/src  dir and use      ln -s  linux linux_whatever-the-name-of-your-soruce-dir-is
[07:10] <djuuss> pfff i think its time for a reinstal
[07:10] <Dr_willis> adEe,  or i MAY have that backwards.. I always get it backwards.. so i reverse the arguments.. and end up confusign myself
[07:10] <ChocoCid> reinstalling :)
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: I find that the safest way to symlink things is to put the whole path.
[07:10] <ChocoCid> i just did a fresh install of edgy today, it's hotness :)
[07:11] <Dr_willis> ArrenLex,  yea.. i still managert to get it al backwards
[07:11] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:11] <ArrenLex> Dr_willis: ln -s /from/ /to/
[07:11] <djuuss> chococid, think you can help me patch up this piece of feces?
[07:11] <ChocoCid> what exactly is the problem?
[07:11] <ArrenLex> djuuss: I don't think even Linux can run on feces. ...yet.
[07:11] <ChocoCid> XD
[07:11] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 28 2006-09-23 20:10 linux -> linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686/      :)
[07:11] <djuuss> lol
[07:11] <ChocoCid> fecesk?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> ln -s linux linux-headers-2.6.15-27-686
[07:11] <ChocoCid> hrm...
[07:12] <djuuss> anyway
[07:12] <swashbucklinstev> Erh how do I get ndiswrapper installed? I'm AMD64 Dapper 6.06LTS
[07:12] <djuuss> the problem is, when i try to login it kicks me to / instead of /home/$user, because for some reason users arent allowed to see/enter /home
[07:12] <ChocoCid> er
[07:12] <Healot> !info ndisgtk
[07:12] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[07:12] <ChocoCid> can you chmod the /home dir to readable?
[07:13] <djuuss> liek how?
[07:13] <ArrenLex> djuuss: what are you trying to do?
[07:13] <ChocoCid> well, prob want read/write
[07:13] <Healot> swashbucklinstev, install ndisgtk will install ndiswrapper
[07:13] <ChocoCid> from /. do sudo chmod 755 home ?
[07:13] <ChocoCid> might need a special command to chmod a dir, not sure
[07:13] <JairunCaloth> OK, maybe someone here can help me with this... I really don't know what's going on.
[07:13] <djuuss> dude what does slashdot have to do with this
[07:13] <SEWilco> !fan
[07:13] <ubotu> fan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html
[07:13] <djuuss> ;)
[07:13] <ArrenLex> ChocoCid: chmod -R
[07:13] <ChocoCid> ah, ok, there you go
[07:13] <djuuss> arrenlex i'm trying to login as non-root
[07:13] <swashbucklinstev> Healot: apt doesn't know about a ndisgtk
[07:14] <ArrenLex> djuss: is this... a problem? o_o
[07:14] <ChocoCid> swashbucklinstev, : that package is in add/remove programs
[07:14] <swashbucklinstev> Healot: I updated 2 hours ago
[07:14] <xzekution> DBO: check PM
[07:14] <ChocoCid> djuuss, try chmoding /home so that it will work properly?
[07:14] <ChocoCid> i'm not a linux expert yet :P
[07:14] <Healot> swashbucklinstev, update and enable other sections of  repos
[07:14] <djuuss> yeh when i do ls -al /home now i get some more x's
[07:14] <Healot> !repos > swashbucklinstev
[07:14] <JairunCaloth> I've been using wine to play world of warcraft. Wine is configured to use oss. I use the aoss command when I run wine to be able to listen to music with xfmedia while I play. However,  the past week or so I can't get  any media player to play while I'm runing wine... even with aoss
[07:14] <ChocoCid> er
[07:14] <DBO> xzekution, done and replied
[07:15] <ChocoCid> does it seems like all the subdirs have been made non-readable?
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Jairun: try alsa?
[07:15] <djuuss> ok now when logging in at GDM with a normal user
[07:15] <djuuss> i get
[07:15] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex alsa and wine don't play nice, also still dosn't work. tried it
[07:15] <JairunCaloth> alsa and wow I should say
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Did you change anything in your setup to break it?
[07:16] <djuuss> mkdtemp: private socket dir: permission denied
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Can you run two alsa applications at the same time?
[07:16] <ChocoCid> no clue what's going on, djuuss , sorry
[07:16] <JairunCaloth> good question...
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Can you run xmms or mplayer or whatever supports it as oss and then also run an alsa app?
[07:16] <ChocoCid> i'm still in the noobish enough status as a linux user that i can only fix stuff i've already fixed :P
[07:16] <djuuss> same here i'm afraid :P
[07:17] <ChocoCid> i managed to break dapper by trying to get that stupid xgl thing working
[07:17] <ArrenLex> I can't fix anything. Ever. I don't even know why I'm on here.
[07:17] <macosx> hey anyone out there know how to change the application menu icon
[07:17] <djuuss> i managed to break dapper by using sudo startx at first boot
[07:17] <ChocoCid> gj!
[07:18] <royal> hey guys I have a big problem
[07:18] <macosx> anyone know how to change distributor logo on ubuntu??
[07:18] <royal> my ubuntu computer doesn't want to connect to the net!
[07:18] <ChocoCid> did you just install it?
[07:18] <jirwin> with dapper, is there anyway to update to PHP 4.4.4?
[07:18] <royal> it was working a few minutes ago
[07:18] <royal> it was on there for a day
[07:18] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: I can't get two programs running alsa to work at the same time
[07:18] <American-Tech> Hi all I having sound problems on my new laptop. I can not get my sound to work. I have a gateway mx6448.
[07:18] <ArrenLex> Jairun: then it's obviously not Wine's fault.
[07:18] <bll3r> hello everyone
[07:19] <djuuss> hi
[07:19] <royal> it was on the net then it decided it did not want to load webpages then kicked me off of irc
[07:19] <ArrenLex> Jairun: did you touch your sound setup at all?
[07:19] <bll3r> How do you get your routers IP Address (like on windows its ipconfig /all)
[07:19] <ArrenLex> royal: what happens if you run "ifdown -a && ifup -a" ?
[07:19] <ArrenLex> bll3r: sudo ifconfig
[07:19] <royal> then i restarted and now it gve me page errors
[07:19] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: I was attempting to fix an error I was getting when clicking the sound tab in winecfg. since then it hasn't worked
[07:19] <ArrenLex> bll3r: don't even need sudo.
[07:19] <SEWilco> Router's address shows in "/bin/route -n" as the default route.
[07:20] <bll3r> thank ArrenLex
[07:20] <SEWilco> Or maybe you want something from "/sbin/ifconfg -n"
[07:20] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: I"ve been having sound issues since I upgraded to a basicly new computer.
[07:20] <ArrenLex> Jairun: "issues"?
[07:20] <SEWilco> ... /sbin/ifconfig  (no -n)
[07:21] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: mainly with having two apps putting out sound at the same time
[07:21] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[07:21] <royal> ... HUH? then when I go to try waht you said its SUDDENTLY working again
[07:21] <djuuss> you should use 2 soundcards *ducks*
[07:21] <ArrenLex> Jairun: did you touch the sound configuration at all in Ubuntu, or did you just let it install whatever was default?
[07:22] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: well the default install was for my old computer. this is for the most part an entirely new computer. New mobo, sound card, processor, video... pretty much everything
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Jairun: did you install anew or copy your old computer's settings?
[07:22] <SEWilco> Well, without "pdfimages" I'll just have to make crummy images from screen grabs.  Or reboot from my old drive.
[07:22] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: it's the old settings
[07:23] <ArrenLex> Jairun: Hmm. That would probably be your problem. You can't really migrate everything like that.
[07:23] <xzekution> For those of you that use XChat - What is the Red Line that goes across my screen ever so often ?
[07:23] <ArrenLex> Jairun: firstly, is your system up to date with the current repos?
[07:23] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: I belive so
[07:23] <czer323> xzekution, it's to let you know wher eyou left off
[07:23] <rylasasin> well now that its working ... what did you tell me to do now?
[07:24] <xzekution> where I left off?
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Jairun: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade JIC. Make sure you have dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <rylasasin> is there anyway to fix this "goes off the internet and goes back on whenever it pleases"
[07:24] <smax> hiya
[07:24] <czer323> xzekution, When you goto another window, the red line will start keeping track of where you left.  Then, when yo ucome back and everyone's been typing, you can go back to the red line and see, OHhh, that's where I left.  So now you can read what everyone else typed since then.
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Jairun: then, assuming it doesn't update anything\doesn't update alsa, download this file: http://arrenlex.diff.be/alsaconf ; It's a shell script. Run it. It will reconfigure alsa. This may or may not help. If not, I'm out of ideas; sorry.
[07:25] <xzekution> czer323: kickbutt
[07:25] <xzekution> ty!
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Jairun: run it with sudo.
[07:25] <kate> how do i run a .bin file?
[07:25] <smax> i get this error when i pull a  sudo apt-get install build-essential  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZJrbPW60.html
[07:25] <JairunCaloth> arren: thanks for the help. I'll try the script. All my other drivers have been updated. And I attempted to update the alsa driver, but it''s really been a pain in the ass.
[07:25] <ArrenLex> kate: sudo chmod +x <file.bin> to give yourself permission to run it. Then just ./file.bin
[07:26] <xzekution> sudo apt-get impeachbush
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Jairun: attempted to update it from where?
[07:26] <Healot> xzekution, invalid operation
[07:26] <ArrenLex> smax: what does mldonkey have to do with build-essential?
[07:26] <xzk> I tried to help
[07:26] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: using info from the forums
[07:26] <kate> arrenlex, thanks
[07:26] <striky> bekomme unter mplayer oder xine kein quicktime dateien abgespielt kann mir bitte jemand helfen bin neu in ubuntu  habe schon den libquicktime0 codec installiert klapt aber nicht habe auch noch dieses packet w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386 mit gdebi intalliert klapt immer noch nicht
[07:26] <ArrenLex> smax: try "apt-get remove mldonkey-server" before you install build-essential.
[07:27] <smax> ArrenLex:  thanx pal.  i'll try that
[07:27] <eclipse75> .... if the gnome partition manager hangs on a partition resize... im going to be very pissed
[07:27] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: I uninstalled and reinstalled alsa
[07:27] <kate> how do i make a folder writable?
[07:27] <kate> whats the chmod command?
[07:27] <eclipse75> kate, man chmod
[07:27] <eclipse75> :)
[07:27] <tk> my bluetooth stopped working when I tried switching hubs... now neither work ......
[07:27] <xzk> How do I install WIne :)
[07:27] <ArrenLex> Jairun: okay; "apt-get install alsa alsa-utils" and then run the script with sudo.
[07:28] <Mukunda> Anyone here running Ubuntu on a PPC mac? And can the OS X filesystem be easily resized?
[07:28] <kate> ahhh
[07:28] <kate> thats a lot to read :(
[07:28] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: running the script now
[07:29] <smax> ArrenLex:  now i get this  error  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nfz8sB47.html
[07:29] <smax> hmmm
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Wow.
[07:29] <xzk> Does anybody use uTorrent?
[07:29] <kate> okay i tried : kate@kate:~$ sudo chmod +w /home/kate/games
[07:29] <smax> i primarily need glibc   and glib.h
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Stubborn donkey.
[07:29] <kate> still not writable?
[07:29] <xzk> I Love John Legend.
[07:29] <kate> it has the lock symbol next to the file
[07:30] <kate> what should i do
[07:30] <ArrenLex> kate: paste the output of "ls -l /home/kate/games"
[07:30] <smax> ArrenLex:  is this going to be tricky?
[07:30] <Andre_Gondim> Does anybody can tell me how do I forward my internet for my clients?
[07:30] <kate> total 16
[07:30] <kate> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2006-10-02 20:04 armyops
[07:30] <kate> drwxr-xr-x  7 root root 4096 2006-10-03 00:00 enemy-territory
[07:30] <kate> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 2006-10-04 20:48 privgold
[07:30] <kate> drwxr-xr-x  5 kate kate 4096 2006-10-04 22:05 warsow
[07:30] <kate> kate@kate:~$
[07:30] <Healot> !paste
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:30] <smax> lol
[07:31] <kate> Arrenlex, is that what you wanted?
[07:31] <kelsey> hey guys - so, what's up with dapper/alsa ?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> kate: not really. How about "ls -l /home/kate/ | grep games"
[07:31] <crimsun> kelsey: that's pretty vague. Mind making your question more precise?
[07:31] <JairunCaloth> arrenlex: no change
[07:31] <kate> arrenlex: drwxr-xr-x 6 root root      4096 2006-10-04 22:04 games
[07:32] <eclipse75> hmm ubuntu is definetly not resource friendly....
[07:32] <Bassetts> how can i open a microsoft publisher file?
[07:32] <smax> eclipse75:  i agree
[07:32] <xzk> How do I install Wine :(
[07:32] <ArrenLex> kate: what's your username on your system? kate?
[07:32] <kate> yup
[07:32] <bimberi> !wine
[07:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:32] <kelsey> ie, alsa is fubar on dapper after an apt-get update/upgrade
[07:32] <kelsey> all of the forums are plagued with people bitching about the same thing
[07:32] <kate> arrenlex, yes
[07:32] <kelsey> so, I came here to bitch on irc
[07:32] <crimsun> kelsey: that's still pretty vague. What doesn't work?
[07:32] <kelsey> how's that?
[07:33] <xzk> ty bimberi!
[07:33] <kelsey> nevermind then
[07:33] <kate> arrenlex, its kate, and computer name is kate
[07:33] <eclipse75> you just need a hug kelsey
[07:33] <Andre_Gondim> Doen anyone can tell me how do I do to my client pc browser in the internet
[07:33] <rylasasin> ok how do I get my mp3s to play in the ubuntu music player?
[07:33] <crimsun> I love when people don't even bother explaining the problem and expect others to magically deduce what's wrong.
[07:33] <ArrenLex> kate: do this: "sudo chown kate /home/kate/games && sudo chgrp kate /home/kate/games && sudo chmod -R 777 /home/kate/games"
[07:33] <smax> Andre_Gondim:  apt-cache search firefox
[07:33] <bimberi> bassets: as i understand it, no go.  You probably have to save in some intermediate format from Publisher itself
[07:34] <pinPoint> whats a good way to search for text in a folder with files?
[07:34] <bimberi> xzk: np :)
[07:34] <smax> ArrenLex:  how can i get this donky off my machine ?
[07:34] <xzk> bimberi: how do i add supositores
[07:34] <eclipse75> rylasain, they disabled mp3's so you gotta get some codecs yourself
[07:34] <pinPoint> how do i pass it with grep
[07:34] <kate> arrenlex
[07:34] <ArrenLex> smax: I don't know o_o
[07:34] <eclipse75> just google it and youll be fine
[07:34] <bimberi> xzk: um ...
[07:34] <kate> arrenlex, thanks
[07:34] <ArrenLex> kate!
[07:34] <ArrenLex> xD
[07:34] <xzk> lol
[07:34] <Andre_Gondim> smax: no, I am in ubuntu server, I want to active ip forward, but I dont remember how can I do this
[07:34] <ArrenLex> kate, you're welcome.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Did it work?
[07:34] <bimberi> :)
[07:34] <kate> yes thanks
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Good to hear.
[07:34] <xzk> bimberi: repositores
[07:34] <eclipse75> google "ubuntu mp3" and it should return something for ya
[07:34] <bimberi> !repositories
[07:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:35] <ArrenLex> All that did was change the owner of the file and the group of the file to "kate" and then give everyone write permissions.
[07:35] <xzk> bimberi: dang I was hoping you would explain :(
[07:35] <kate> yeah i just didnt know how to do it
[07:35] <ArrenLex> You might want to adjust those permissions if "everyone" is too loose for you.
[07:35] <xzk> in great detail - how to add supositories
[07:35] <smax> Andre_Gondim: what do you mean IP forward?  do you have multiple nic cards ?
[07:35] <ArrenLex> styx (stax? or whatever): how about "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all mldonkey-server"?
[07:36] <eclipse75> ... ubuntu is pissing me off
[07:36] <ArrenLex> smax. Close enough.
[07:36] <Mukunda> eclipse75: why?
[07:36] <kate> eclipse75, why
[07:37] <eclipse75> eatting all my system resources and taking forever to resize my slack partition
[07:37] <Andre_Gondim> smax: I am in a ubuntu server now, and I have a sub-net, my sub-net cannot browsing in this moment, I formated the server
[07:37] <bimberi> xzk: you could try ubotu - /msg ubotu whatever
[07:37] <kate> eclipse75, do you like slack?
[07:37] <eclipse75> <-- almost loyal slack user
[07:37] <smax> does this subnet have a route ?
[07:37] <eclipse75> i did, but some things i like about ubuntu
[07:37] <lucaferr> !!easysource
[07:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:37] <Mukunda> eclipse75: throw on fluxbox?
[07:38] <Andre_Gondim> smax: the route is my ubuntu server
[07:38] <smax> are you saying your ubuntu server is operating as a router?
[07:38] <Andre_Gondim> smax: yeah
[07:38] <smax> ahh
[07:38] <eclipse75> ermm im running on the live cd right now
[07:38] <xzk> ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <eclipse75> so thats part of the problem
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <smax> Andre_Gondim: hold up ive done this before...
[07:38] <kate> okay im out
[07:38] <kate> thtanks for the help
[07:38] <kate> all
[07:38] <Andre_Gondim> smax: ok
[07:38] <kate> im such a noob
[07:39] <eclipse75> but 256mb ram minimum? thats an unfriendly number
[07:39] <eclipse75> kate, give it time. the more you screw up, the more you learn
[07:39] <djuuss> eclipse75, for server its 32mb ram minimum
[07:39] <Healot> most modern rigs have more than 1GB imho
[07:39] <smax> Andre_Gondim: do this.  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TmVFPH62.html     i did this on my Debian box.  but ubuntu is debian based so i this outa work
[07:40] <eclipse75> heh yeah and they are probably used a stripped down kernel with either a low end gui or no gui
[07:40] <eclipse75> use twm :P
[07:40] <djuuss> i'm not saying corporate server, but your home mail/printserver
[07:40] <eclipse75> yeah
[07:40] <smax> assuming you have properly configure subnet masks and ip adresses
[07:40] <djuuss> your 333mhz p2 with 32 mb ram and a 5gb harddisk
[07:40] <Andre_Gondim> smax: I cannot see a page, just irc right know
[07:41] <smax> oh ok
[07:41] <eclipse75> heh
[07:41] <eclipse75> yeah i need to get a junk computer and get smoothwall
[07:41] <holycow> http://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/08/26/upstart-in-universe
[07:41] <holycow> interesting article
[07:41] <eclipse75> + a 10 port switch
[07:41] <smax> Andre_Gondim:  first do this.   echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[07:41] <djuuss> guys im stuck, this is getting out of hand
[07:41] <eclipse75> whats the issue?
[07:41] <smax> Andre_Gondim:  then emacs or vi  into /etc/network/options
[07:42] <djuuss> it works fine, but only for root
[07:42] <Flannel> Andre_Gondim: or nano
[07:42] <djuuss> when logging in to the GUI as a normal user, it says that /home/$user doesnt exist, and if it does work it quits instantly over some other obscure permission thing
[07:43] <wickedpuppy> smax, you got that file ? cause i don't
[07:43] <djuuss> mkdtemp private socket dir or something
[07:43] <smax> Andre_Gondim:  i dont know where on ubuntu network options but the Debian equivilance is /etc/network/options
[07:43] <smax> and you have to edit ip-forward to yes
[07:44] <Icarus> can someoen help me with a gtkpod problem
[07:44] <holycow> smax, as ubuntu freezes off of debian unstable every 6 months everything is in the same place
[07:44] <Icarus> i cant sync
[07:44] <Andre_Gondim> smax: and then I can do iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE, ok?
[07:44] <Icarus> You did not import the existing iTunesDB ('/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'). This is most likely incorrect and will result in the loss of the existing database.
[07:44] <rylasasin> now if only I could figure out how to get ytmnd to work (requires quicktime)
[07:44] <Icarus> it keeps giving me that message
[07:44] <djuuss> whats a good IRC client that doesnt use X ?
[07:44] <wickedpuppy> djuuss, bitchx
[07:44] <djuuss> k ill get that after these updates
[07:44] <holycow> biatchx worksgreat for me indeed
[07:45] <Icarus> does anyone know how to fix it?
[07:45] <rylasasin> does anyone know how to get quicktime to work?
[07:45] <wickedpuppy> !quicktime
[07:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <djuuss> what happened to xorg.config etc ?
[07:46] <djuuss> or xorg-config
[07:46] <wickedpuppy> djuuss, what happened to what ?
[07:47] <djuuss> there used to be some script that would make xorg.conf for you
[07:48] <Healot> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:48] <holycow> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:48] <holycow> doh!
[07:48] <djuuss> thats the one!
[07:48] <djuuss> well, two
[07:48] <Healot> minus the ?
[07:48] <djuuss> hey this doesnt seem right
[07:49] <djuuss> is the AGP bus generally called  PCI:1:0:0 ?
[07:49] <eclipse75> umm is there something wrong when im still waiting 10 minutes later for a partition resize for only 1gb from a 18gb partition?
[07:49] <mjr> djuuss, if there's only one other PCI bus, generally yes
[07:49] <Healot> depends on where BIOS sees it
[07:50] <rylasasin> no no I meant quicktime PLUGIN not quicktime player
[07:50] <rylasasin> the thing that makes Mp3s play off the net
[07:50] <Icarus> can someone help me with gtkpod?
[07:50] <rylasasin> or wavs
[07:50] <Icarus> i have work in a couple hours and i want to get these songs on my ipod
[07:51] <eclipse75> icarus, weren't you from the ##slackware channel?
[07:51] <Icarus> no
[07:51] <eclipse75> hrmm
[07:51] <eclipse75> wrong icarus then
[07:51] <Healot> rylasasin, a couple namely; mozilla gxine plugin or that mozilla mplayer plugin
[07:51] <Icarus> can anyone at slackware help?
[07:51] <eclipse75> mmm more than likely
[07:51] <Icarus> when i try and sync with gtkpod i get You did not import the existing iTunesDB ('/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'). This is most likely incorrect and will result in the loss of the existing database.
[07:51] <holycow> if you don't get banned first,maybe?
[07:51] <holycow> >_>
[07:52] <wickedpuppy> Icarus, if its not ubuntu specific feel free to ask in any distro channels
[07:52] <eclipse75> the people from ##slackware are pretty nifty
[07:52] <rylasasin> how do I veiw YTMND and hear musicfrom it? it requires the quicktime plugin it seems
[07:52] <holycow> its hard to support things like gtkpod ... as it syncs witha proprietary device that we have no access to
[07:52] <holycow> if we cant open up the hood and look, don't be too optimistic we can help
[07:52] <holycow> your best bet is actually gtkpod forums directly
[07:53] <eclipse75> going on 15 minutes for a partition resize now...
[07:53] <holycow> additionaly, if google returns no results for that error
[07:53] <djuuss> how do you kill x softly? as in, without ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:53] <sidny4> I have dual monitors connected to my geforce 7600 in my desktop, will configuring dual monitors for it be a pain? I haven't tried it yet
[07:54] <wickedpuppy> sing killing me softly .. by fugee
[07:54] <holycow> there is virtually 0 chance a human will be able pull someything so esoteric out of their brain, considering the chances that you may actually find a human that even has run into that issue
[07:54] <jldugger> djuuss, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:54] <holycow> :/
[07:54] <ArrenLex> djuuss: maybe you're more versed in the ways of homicide than me, but I don't think it's possible to KILL something "softly".
[07:54] <ArrenLex> me -> I
[07:54] <djuuss> hey that only killed one of them
[07:54] <djuuss> i had 2 running
[07:54] <djuuss> how do i kill the one on :1
[07:55] <eclipse75> woo finally done
[07:55] <djuuss> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:55] <jldugger> interesting queston
[07:55] <jldugger> i have no idea
[07:55] <djuuss> mt
[07:55] <Icarus> so theres nothing i can do?
[07:55] <zach> have a question, what does signal 8 mean in reference to a hard drive specifically "Warning... fsck.ext3 for device /dev/hdg1 exited with signal 8."
[07:55] <wickedpuppy> zach, i would google on that
[07:55] <Icarus> is there another program for ipods?
[07:55] <jldugger> Icarus, banshee?
[07:55] <wickedpuppy> itunes ?
[07:55] <zach> did, comes up with stuff not refering to hard drives
[07:56] <Icarus> does rythmbox let you transfer ?
[07:56] <Icarus> i've tried banshee jldugger it never transfers
[07:56] <wickedpuppy> zach, what was your search phrase ?
[07:56] <Icarus> You did not import the existing iTunesDB ('/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'). This is most likely incorrect and will result in the loss of the existing database.
[07:56] <Icarus> what does that mean?
[07:56] <zach> hard drive signal 8 and "fsck.ext3 for device /dev/hdg1 exited with signal 8." and "signal 8"
[07:56] <Icarus> how do i import it?
[07:57] <holycow> Icarus, please google
[07:57] <holycow> and stop repeating
[07:57] <holycow> i know you are going to work but its clear no one knows
[07:57] <Icarus> i have
[07:57] <sidny4> I have dual monitors connected to my geforce 7600 in my desktop, will configuring dual monitors for it be a pain? I haven't tried it yet
[07:57] <ArrenLex> sidny4: using what driver?
[07:57] <holycow> !dual
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <holycow> !nvidia
[07:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <jldugger> i dont own an ipod, but supposedly banshee has one click sync to ipod
[07:58] <ArrenLex> !randomwordspossiblyrelatinginsomewaytoperson'squeirytoavoidhavingtoactuallyansweranyquestions
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about randomwordspossiblyrelatinginsomewaytoperson'squeirytoavoidhavingtoactuallyansweranyquestions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Aw. I was sure that would work.
[07:58] <holycow> sidny4, i can give you my config file but not until tommorrow
[07:58] <holycow> the system is at the office
[07:58] <sidny4> I haven't installed any drivers yet
[07:58] <holycow> you can bug me during the day sometime if you like
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> hard drive signal 8 and signal 9 is sure wrong  .. zach try fsck.ext3 for device /dev/ exited with signal 8
[07:59] <holycow> but you need the nvidia link i posted first to install nvidia binary drivers from repos
[07:59] <sidny4> I was just wondering how much of a pain in the butt it would be to do
[07:59] <sidny4> ok
[07:59] <holycow> then you need to properly configure your xorg.conf file ... i can give you mine for reference tommorah
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> sidny4, nvidia is easy .. wait till you use ati
[07:59] <eclipse75> isnt chmod already recursive by default?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> wickedpuppy: I hear you. ATI is the spawn of satan.
[07:59] <holycow> one would hope you never haveto deal with ati
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> eclipse75, nope .. you need -R
[08:00] <eclipse75> crap
[08:00] <sidny4> I'll stik with nvidia
[08:00] <jldugger> Icarus, have you had a look through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto ?
[08:00] <djuuss> hey im in terminal Vi'ing through my xorg.conf.. how do i save my chagnes with vi?
[08:00] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[08:00] <fdsd> any know of a good ide ata100/133 raid card, PCI?
[08:00] <zach> signal 8 is an operational error
[08:00] <wickedpuppy> djuuss, :w to write .. :wq to write and quit
[08:00] <zach> so wtf my hard drive is shot?
[08:00] <djuuss> k
[08:01] <holycow> zach, well no one can really answer that question.  driver fail.  all the time.  really.  brand new ones too.
[08:01] <djuuss> and what in the Display section of xorg.conf do i change to enable 1600x1200 @ 80hz?
[08:01] <holycow> drivers even :/
[08:01] <THX-1138> zach - Did you get an error from the gparted/installer partitioning software?
[08:01] <djuuss> because i'm getting a headache watching 1024x768 @ 60hz
[08:01] <sidny4> ok, one last question, anyone know how to get ubuntu setup to recognize my RAID 0? I heard something about dmraid
[08:01] <wickedpuppy> djuuss, if you scroll down enough you will see
[08:01] <ArrenLex> djuss: have you modified your xorg.conf extensively? If not, it'd be easier to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, methinks.
[08:01] <holycow> djuuss, no, you neeed to first google your monitor model and make ... and find the CORRECT horizontal and vertical refresh rates
[08:01] <THX-1138> djuus - Have you seen ubotu's link?
[08:02] <THX-1138> !display
[08:02] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:02] <holycow> djuuss, then in xorg.conf you insert the horizontal and vert refresh rates
[08:02] <djuuss> k ill dpkg-reconfigure it again
[08:02] <holycow> djuuss, then restart x and you will have full resolution options for your particula monitor model
[08:02] <holycow> djuuss, don't
[08:02] <holycow> that won't help
[08:02] <sidny4> !dmraid
[08:02] <zach> whatever the partition software in ubutnu is called, it can see the hdd and the partition, but unknown size and fs type
[08:02] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[08:02] <holycow> do what i told you
[08:02] <ArrenLex> djuuss: or just go with medium difficulty in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the refresh rate you want.
[08:02] <djuuss> sec switching terminals
[08:03] <sidny4> !raid
[08:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:03] <THX-1138> holycow <perk> - i might just learn son\mething.
[08:03] <ArrenLex> holycow: any particular reason you're biased against reconfigure?
[08:03] <holycow> ArrenLex, because if your monitor detectio failed once it will fail again
[08:03] <THX-1138> holycow - Ah, Okay. quite right.
[08:03] <ArrenLex> holycow: well sure. But his monitor autodetected fine if it was set up properly. The resolution and refresh rate are set manually.
[08:03] <holycow> actually no it wasn't
[08:04] <ArrenLex> holycow: did I miss something?
[08:04] <holycow> thats the reason he o nly has 60hz available at minimum refresh rate
[08:04] <djuuss> it failed because of some arguments i added the first time
[08:04] <holycow> you need the proper full refresh rates for your monitor in your xorg.conf file then restart xorg
[08:04] <holycow> that will give him all the possible resolutions and refresh rates available for his monitor to select via gui after x restart
[08:04] <THX-1138> ops, now i am easily confused and 60 hz min refresh sounds reasonable.
[08:04] <ArrenLex> holycow: I assure you that the refresh rates can indeed be set manually, if you specify medium difficulty screen configuration. I've done it.
[08:04] <jldugger> my edgy xorg.conf ignores resolution options until i restart x =(
[08:05] <rylasasin> anyone know how I can get the quicktime plugin?
[08:05] <zach> holycow, and THX-1138 - also, when I put hdg1 in fstab for automounting at boot-up, it gives me this error instead of a signal 8 - "EXT3-fs: unsupported inode size: 0"
[08:05] <djuuss> now, i'm worrying about it saying my video card is in PCI:1:0:0
[08:05] <ArrenLex> djuuss: "lspci" will tell you were your card is.
[08:05] <holycow> ArrenLex, i'm not really arguing with you at all .. thats fine.   but until he googles his  monitor ... how will he know what the refresh rates are?
[08:05] <holycow> proper ones anyway
[08:06] <jldugger> apparently he can do 1600x1200@80hz
[08:06] <ArrenLex> holycow: if he knows for sure that his monitor won't explode at 80hz, which I'm assuming it won't, he can choose 1280x1024@80hz in the medium options and be fine.
[08:06] <THX-1138> zach - too new to know. but to me that sounds like a formatting error. - descriptor table not written??
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Or whatever resolution he wants.
[08:06] <holycow> ArrenLex, please stop arguing about stupid shit
[08:06] <holycow> jesus
[08:06] <ArrenLex> o_O
[08:06] <holycow> dpkg reconfigure works
[08:06] <rylasasin> how do I get compiz? and dont' point me to the xgl room cause no one there is answering
[08:06] <eclipse75> think 5000mb is enough room for the root partition excluding /home?
[08:06] <holycow> adding correct refresh rates is the PROPER way of doing it
[08:06] <Healot> !compiz
[08:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:06] <djuuss> ok reconfigure worked
[08:07] <djuuss> whats /dev/wacom ?
[08:07] <ArrenLex> automatic != improper. o_O
[08:07] <holycow> until we get a gui for autoassigning all that stuff like in suse
[08:07] <ArrenLex> djuuss: a tablet. If you have one.
[08:07] <holycow> dude, shut the hell up already.  your information is correct.  my information is correct.
[08:07] <jldugger> djuuss, tablet input. should be fine with it in even if you dont have one
[08:07] <THX-1138> holycow - You have been here a long time and i trust you.
[08:07] <holycow> he can choose whichever way he wants
[08:07] <holycow> now shut the hell up and stop talking to me.
[08:07] <zach> THX-1138, hmm, dont know, it was formated and was used for like 6 months now so this is just a sudded random thing
[08:07] <djuuss> startx fails because it cant find /dev/wacom -.-
[08:07] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[08:07] <ArrenLex> djuss: then go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and comment out the wacom tablet section.
[08:07] <z3r0x> how can I search a networkprinter?
[08:07] <jldugger> interesting
[08:08] <djuuss> yeh ill do that
[08:08] <czer323> lol, when the lights go dark, everything goes bat shit crazy!
[08:08] <holycow> THX-1138, naw don't trust me, i make lotsa mistakes, google up the answers i dish up to make sure :)
[08:08] <jldugger> djuuss, comment it out then
[08:08] <THX-1138> zach - when you open a dictionary and search for linux noob my picture is there beside the definition.
[08:08] <zach> ah
[08:08] <holycow> everyones a noob
[08:08] <czer323> I love being a n00b
[08:08] <jldugger> linus might not be a n00b
[08:08] <holycow> next version of ubuntu is getting a new init it seems .. sysv is being replaced with upstart
[08:08] <myesterious> hi
[08:09] <holycow> yay! back to square one
[08:09] <holycow> >_>
[08:09] <myesterious> who r using MPlayer ?
[08:09] <czer323> Linus is definately a newb
[08:09] <zach> well I guess I'll look for some ext3 recovery software
[08:09] <jldugger> holycow, and /bin/sh is gonna be dash
[08:09] <myesterious> i cannot find "repeat" option
[08:09] <holycow> zach, you didn't backup /home?
[08:09] <czer323> Upstart btw, is amazing.  Super fast starts and shutdowns.
[08:09] <holycow> jldugger, oh yeah right, that bit me on the ass the other day
[08:09] <holycow> >_>
[08:09] <jldugger> heh
[08:09] <zach> it's not a /home partition it's my "media drive"
[08:10] <jldugger> well, it is beta. hopefully you submitted a bug report ;)
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Can someone explain why /bin/sh -> dash? It seems to me this will break a ton of scripts in really-hard-to-troubleshoot ways.
[08:10] <jenda-lappy> hello
[08:10] <rylasasin> *sigh* I give up
[08:10] <jldugger> ArrenLex, the best argument ive heard is that it speeds up ./configure in many cases
[08:10] <holycow> zach, yah, sounds like your repartitioning borked something ... if that was you up there doing that
[08:10] <jldugger> And really, /bin/sh is supposed to be any POSIX compliant shell
[08:10] <ArrenLex> jldugger: would it not be easier, then, to ask developers to use dash for ./configure scripts?
[08:11] <zach> holycow, no wasn't partitioning anything
[08:11] <djuuss> startx still dies
[08:11] <jenda-lappy> What is the difference between the normal mode and recovery? ie. This PC works only in recovery mode since yesterday, and I'm not aware of any changes I made.
[08:11] <rylasasin> i've been trying and trying and trying and trying to get XGL/Beryl to work but nothing at all
[08:11] <zach> it just gave that inode error and startup one time and then I tried to run fsck to check it
[08:11] <myesterious> Who can use repeat on MPlayer ?
[08:11] <ArrenLex> jenda: recovery mode means to HUI.
[08:11] <czer323> recovery mode is typically all root command line stuff.
[08:11] <zach> can't mount it
[08:11] <ArrenLex> HUI -> GUI
[08:11] <jenda-lappy> ArrenLex, HUI?
[08:11] <jldugger> ArrenLex, i have no idea. maybe they intend to make an even faster shell, and wanted to iron out bugs now rather than later =/
[08:12] <eclipse75> on partitioning, is there any way how i can take two sets of unallocated space and merge them?
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Maybe. Well, they're the bosses.
[08:12] <djuuss> Waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[08:12] <holycow> zach, hard to say really, could be lots of reasons.  are you mounting it via some usb cradle maybe?
[08:12] <djuuss> what does that mean?
[08:12] <zach> nope, ide
[08:12] <ArrenLex> djuss: that's not an error. It doesn't crash your X. There should be something above that.
[08:12] <holycow> perhaps you are hosing your fstab entry then? if you had a usb cradle you could let the system handle the intricacies
[08:13] <djuuss> ArrenLex: It's not saying anything else.. is there a -verbose option for startx?
[08:13] <zach> could be but it's the default fstab with the install of the system and it worked before, only change I made was take out the hdg1 entry to allow it to boot
[08:13] <ArrenLex> djuuss: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:14] <link_36p> Im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and i keep getting lockups when its retrieving the packages
[08:14] <holycow> zach, hard to say from here ... sorry i wont really be able to guess this one.
[08:14] <zach> /dev/hdg1       /media/hdg1     ext3    defaults        0       2
[08:14] <THX-1138> djuus - would there be a log in /var/logs or /xfree86?
[08:14] <holycow> link_36p, are you sure its a lockup or the screen just goes blank?
[08:14] <aztek> so i'm trying to uninstall GAIM and Ubuntu wants to remove the entire Ubuntu Desktop
[08:14] <jenda-lappy> ArrenLex, what is HUI? Wikipedia won't tell.
[08:14] <link_36p> Holycow, it just stops at a package and nothing will happen unless i eject the CD
[08:14] <holycow> i just installed on a lappie and my cd goes blank at the end ... i had to wait for the hd activity to cease, hit the enter key half a dozen times and the cd pops out and system reboots
[08:14] <crimsun> 'ubuntu-desktop' is a removable metapackage that doesn't hurt anything, aztek.
[08:15] <ArrenLex> jenda: A typo. I meant GUI.
[08:15] <jenda-lappy> aha
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> jenda-lappy, did you see his second message ?
[08:15] <ArrenLex> See? (00:12:11) ArrenLex: HUI -> GUI
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> he said HUI -> GUI
[08:15] <aztek> werd
[08:15] <aztek> thanks
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[08:15] <The_Jack_of_Club> what does installing the 686 kernel have over the 386 kernel? cause when i tryed to install and boot from the 686 kernel i couldnt get xserver to run ontop of it and had to boot back into the 386 one
[08:15] <jenda-lappy> wickedpuppy, ArrenLex, sorrry didn't see that.
[08:15] <holycow> link_36p, i'm  betting you have a bad cd... reburn another one?
[08:15] <The_Jack_of_Club> is it faster or something?
[08:15] <variant> aztek: what command are you using?
[08:15] <eclipse75> is there any way how i can merge two sets of unallocated space?
[08:15] <jldugger> crimsun, what about dist-upgrades?
[08:15] <jenda-lappy> I see it now.
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Sorry to cause you the trouble of searching for it. xD
[08:15] <THX-1138> djuus - Yes, i think i see a log in /var/log/xorg
[08:15] <link_36p> ive installed from this cd before though :(
[08:15] <crimsun> jldugger: it's recommended to reinstall 'ubuntu-desktop' for dist-upgrades, yes.
[08:16] <jenda-lappy> ArrenLex, both recovery and normal use GUI... but what could cause the OS not to start?
[08:16] <holycow> link_36p, cds fail too ... do you have another systaem/hd to test that cd install on to eliminate hardware issues with the lappie?|
[08:16] <shinobi2> how do i check how much swap space i have
[08:16] <aztek> i'm using the synaptic package manager
[08:16] <ArrenLex> jenda: I assure you recovery mode starts into a root command line. And a million things could cause the OS to fail to start.
[08:16] <variant> shinobi2: free -m
[08:16] <THX-1138> Hello crimsun. - always glad to see you here.
[08:16] <The_Jack_of_Club> mem[Physical : 630MB, 69.8% free | Swap : 1482MB, 89.8% free] 
[08:16] <crimsun> hi, THX-1138
[08:17] <holycow> jenda, what ArrenLex says is correct
[08:17] <djuuss> ArrenLex, the log doesnt give any more info
[08:17] <ArrenLex> djuuss: pastebin it.
[08:17] <link_36p> holycow > ya i did test it and it worked fine on another computer :(
[08:17] <THX-1138> djuus - take a peek at the xorg log in /var/log - posting would be cool.
[08:17] <zach> The_Jack_of_Club, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/6350-i386-vs-i586-vs-i686.html
[08:17] <The_Jack_of_Club> oh cool thanks
[08:17] <zach> google my friend
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Google is the friend of all! :D
[08:18] <holycow> link_36p, i've seen that happen once in a while, what kind of laptop ... maybe its known not to work? have you checked the wiki for laptop support ... there is a great section there with a list of known working lappies?
[08:18] <zach> yeah
[08:18] <djuuss> ArrenLex: How do i pastebin without X?
[08:18] <rylasasin> and now its fucked so now i'm back to kubuntu
[08:18] <rylasasin> *sigh* I failed... ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[08:18] <jenda-lappy> ArrenLex, holycow, can't confirm. Just started in recovery mode, according to grub, and got GNOME nicely. I'll try again as soon as apt finishes an update.
[08:18] <THX-1138> erm posting -eek - i meant pasting it to post it on the ubuntulinux paste site
[08:18] <tuxtheslacker> hey. I just got a psc 1610, and I don't know if the cartridge is out of cyann, or if it's the driver on linux :-/.
[08:18] <ArrenLex> djuuss: how are you on IRC right now?
[08:18] <jenda-lappy> !language > rylasasin
[08:19] <holycow> jenda, you are definately not in recovery mode
[08:19] <ArrenLex> jenda: did you press ctrl+D when it asked for a password?
[08:19] <link_36p> holycow, its an acer aspire
[08:19] <holycow> you are maybe in gnome safety mode or whatever it is
[08:19] <jenda-lappy> holycow, strange, then.
[08:19] <THX-1138> ArrenLex - irssi?
[08:19] <holycow> link_36p, i have those .... 3620?
[08:19] <djuuss> ArrenLex: Bitchx, ill go on lynx
[08:19] <rylasasin> I've been trying for 2 hours to install xgl/Beryl for my friends at school but it messed up
[08:19] <THX-1138> w3m - will let you see webpages.
[08:19] <jenda-lappy> ArrenLex, nope. I don't remember it asking. In fact, I believe it only restored a previous session when I clicked recov. mode.
[08:20] <holycow> rylasasin, were you expecting it to work?
[08:20] <holycow> rylasasin, if so, you didn't do your research
[08:20] <ArrenLex> jenda: the recovery mode I'm thinking of isn't clicked, it's selected in grub. Maybe you're thinking of something else.
[08:20] <rylasasin> well yeah it works in the youtube video
[08:20] <The_Jack_of_Club> Yes, Recompiling your kernel using the I686 instructionset will speed things up. <- thats what i wanted to know
[08:20] <The_Jack_of_Club> now if only i could get xserver to run on it
[08:20] <holycow> xgl is just a pre alpha project ... itsnot meant for anyone but developers .. ?
[08:20] <hangfire> what is a good channel for IRC questions?
[08:20] <jenda-lappy> ArrenLex, holycow the last shutdown was caused by empty batteries. Sorry, I didn't mean clicked, I meant selected in GRUB.
[08:20] <jenda-lappy> hangfire, #help
[08:21] <rylasasin> ... they could have told me that ahead of time
[08:21] <variant> rylasasin: its alpha software, not worth messing with at teh momment imo
[08:21] <rylasasin> yeah i'm mad
[08:21] <holycow> jenda-lappy, why are you selecting gnome safe mode ... you can't log in normally?
[08:21] <THX-1138> variant ""
[08:21] <ArrenLex> djuuss: sorry man, I have to go to sleep. I'm sure holycow can help you. =P
[08:21] <holycow> !aiglx
[08:21] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[08:21] <hangfire> jenda-lappy- I want to know how to sign in to NickServ, thats not in help
[08:21] <djuuss> gahhh i would have been done already if i had just re-installed
[08:21] <aschon> would anyone know why when trying to install it stalls out on trying to create the live cd user?
[08:21] <aschon> (daper)
[08:21] <holycow> everyone should be keeping an eye on aiglx .. .thats the future of eye candy.  the only people supporting glx is novell and they are on their own on that
[08:22] <The_Jack_of_Club> hmm
[08:22] <aschon> dapper*
[08:22] <jenda-lappy> holycow, nope, it wouldn't start. No identifiable error message.
[08:22] <jenda-lappy> hangfire, yes it is. I lead the channel :)
[08:22] <THX-1138> hangfire - /msg nickserv help ??
[08:22] <djuuss> Ok screw it i'm gonna re-install by the book this time
[08:22] <The_Jack_of_Club> heh
[08:23] <holycow> jenda-lappy, then you did the right thing.   going into gnome safe mode will letyou do a system upgrade
[08:23] <britt> can someone explain or direct me to an explaination of how to create a small beowulf cluster
[08:23] <holycow> you can also do that from ctrl/alt/f1 prompt
[08:23] <djuuss> well not really, i'm gonna crutch-download an edgy iso as root in x
[08:23] <britt> or some cluster kinda like SMP over LAN
[08:23] <holycow> to get back to your desktop it would be ctrl/alt/f6 or f7 or something
[08:23] <jenda-lappy> holycow, am doing.
[08:23] <jenda-lappy> will try again in a sec.
[08:23] <jenda-lappy> kernel update. Could change a lot.
[08:23] <variant> britt: http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/
[08:24] <aschon> no ideas?
[08:24] <djuuss> its so frustrating, X works just fine when i sudo
[08:24] <THX-1138> britt - You might find a simpler option for experimention in a bootable cd - there are a couplle of them out there.
[08:24] <holycow> djuuss, at least this experience will teach you to ALWASY create a backup copy of any config file you decide to touch
[08:24] <jldugger> britt: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Beowulf-HOWTO/ ?
[08:24] <holycow> that has bittem me many many times :)
[08:24] <variant> britt: note the panel at the side including a link called "howto"
[08:24] <djuuss> holycow, it taught me never to sudo startx, i didnt touch the configs till now
[08:24] <variant> djuuss: what is the problem?'
[08:24] <rylasasin> hmmm ok now that I know that xgl doesnt' work.... how can I get YTMND to work? I think it needs quicktime
[08:24] <rylasasin> it doesn't need flash I tried that already and mp3s still dont' play
[08:24] <aschon> flash
[08:25] <THX-1138> holoycow - He crashed his machine spent hours trying to sort it out and he gets scolded?? - Ouch!
[08:25] <aschon> not quicktime
[08:25] <rylasasin> its not flash
[08:25] <britt> variant: is this as simple as getting installed machines on a network? they auto-config?
[08:25] <rylasasin> thats newgrounds
[08:25] <aschon> no?
[08:25] <djuuss> Variant, my normal users run into permission problems when trying to run X
[08:25] <aschon> yeh newgrounds too
[08:25] <holycow> THX-1138, it was meant as a joke!
[08:25] <djuuss> but sudo startx works just fine
[08:25] <rylasasin> yeah your thinking of newgrounds
[08:25] <holycow> sorry didn't mean to sound rude!
[08:25] <holycow> lol djuuss appologies
[08:25] <holycow> thx for head up THX-1138
[08:25] <rylasasin> not YTMND
[08:25] <variant> britt: what THX-1138 says it true.. if you want a quick and dirty cluster there are live clustering cd's available (instantly create a cluster on any netork!)
[08:25] <britt> hmm
[08:25] <rylasasin> (YTMND uses animated gifs and Streaming WAVs/Mp3s)
[08:25] <variant> djuuss: please explain
[08:25] <holycow> djuuss, you know, instead of fiddling, just reinstall.  backup your xorg.conf then fiddle away.  it will be faster than tracking this down
[08:26] <rylasasin> the gifs work, but the mp3s and wavs dont
[08:26] <britt> use extra workstations at my office to take over the world?
[08:26] <variant> britt: if you install it manualy then you will have a fair bit of configureation to do and fine tuning.. it can be a lot of work
[08:26] <dementt> Whii, ubuntu working and settings have been done. Kernel compiled and sun is shining. Now let the battle begin. dementt VS ATI-drivers
[08:26] <holycow> britt, indeedy, as variant said, just pop some live cd in and go
[08:26] <britt> cool
[08:26] <holycow> but that sorta stuff is really for special workloads
[08:26] <rylasasin> when I wined the windows Firefox it said it needed quicktime
[08:27] <holycow> very very few pieces of software can actually run that way anyhow
[08:27] <variant> britt: it's really not worth it unless you are planning some very cpu intensive multi threaded tasks
[08:27] <britt> holycow: yeah i think im starting to see that
[08:27] <britt> Oh
[08:27] <holycow> what variant said
[08:27] <djuuss> Holycow, read:P, Variant: at first boot, i got a terminal, not GDM. For some strange reason i decided to sudo startx instead of just startx. Now, users cant login through gdm, because they dont have permission to do <well, i'm not sure>
[08:27] <britt> i was also intrested in doing somehing with bootable CD images
[08:27] <variant> britt: its good for rendering but there are distributed rendering projects that are optimised for that
[08:27] <britt> IE, install a linux distro
[08:28] <britt> and make a CD image of my installation onto a DVD or something
[08:28] <docgnome> is there a tutorial detailing how to share a printer across a network with an OS X box from Ubuntu?
[08:28] <holycow> djuuss, how weird.  i don't really know where to begin except to say you are in a pickle
[08:28] <holycow> >_>
[08:28] <variant> britt: you can turn any installed system into a live cd/dvd which a set of scripts
[08:28] <holycow> not very helpfull i know, i'm sorry
[08:28] <rylasasin> unless I need somnthng else to play MP3s off of websites
[08:28] <britt> or make a hd image to boot from?
[08:28] <THX-1138> britt - Sounds like fun. been meaning to do it too, though haven't done it yet.
[08:28] <djuuss> sec coming on root-x xchat
[08:29] <britt> hd image that uncompresses onto a ramdisk like knoppix or something
[08:29] <variant> britt: the best ones i have found are at linux-live.org. they produce ultra fast live cd's.. much faster than the ubuntu live cd and with all your own programs/setup
[08:29] <jldugger> rylasasin, it probably depends on the page. maybe if you installed totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[08:29] <holycow> docgnome, google up cups and printer sharing over network ... you will need to configure your cups config file manually to get it to work unfortunately for now
[08:29] <holycow> we don't have a gui to do that for you yet
[08:29] <rylasasin> http://moskaudance.ytmnd.com/ like here for instance
[08:29] <djuussGUIroot> >.<
[08:29] <variant> holycow: what about gnome-cups?
[08:29] <britt> too bad there isnt a program for linux like deepfreeze for windows
[08:29] <docgnome> holycow: I came here cause I've been fiddling with the thing for a while
[08:30] <djuussGUIroot> i think i simply broke all of ubuntu
[08:30] <holycow> that just sets stuff up locally, it has none of the advanced cups stuff guified
[08:30] <rylasasin> oh and i'm on the Kubuntu drive using gnome
[08:30] <holycow> i wish i had a few hundred million dollars id hire people to write this stuff my self
[08:30] <holycow> heh
[08:30] <rylasasin> cause the xgl fisaco fucked up the other install
[08:30] <britt> i'd be all over it
[08:30] <variant> holycow: no, but it can do network printers
[08:30] <rylasasin> er rats
[08:30] <variant> rylasasin: mind yer language
[08:30] <rylasasin> sry
[08:30] <THX-1138> britt - You will need info i think on "Casper" and the "squashfs" also the file grub needs for hardware info.
[08:30] <rylasasin> couldnt help it
[08:30] <djuussGUIroot> because i used a 5.04 cd to install, logged into X as root, then patched it to 6.06. Now noone but root has permissions anywhere.
[08:30] <holycow> variant, what do you mean DO network printers?
[08:30] <holycow> it can certainly ACCESS network printers
[08:30] <variant> rylasasin: xgl is alpha software, if you choose to install it and it messes up your system its your own fault'
[08:31] <holycow> is that what he was asking? i though he wanted to share a printer off a linux box WITH an osx client
[08:31] <variant> holycow: you can configure and use a networked printer with it
[08:31] <holycow> in which case it most certainly DOES NOT do that
[08:31] <britt> THX-1138: is this the answer to my Q on deepfreeze-ish prog for linux
[08:31] <holycow> variant, please stop saying stuff before reading what write
[08:31] <holycow> thank you
[08:31] <holycow> :)
[08:31] <docgnome> holycow: aye, OS X client.
[08:31] <variant> holycow: ah, wasnt really paying attention :http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/)
[08:31] <variant> holycow: chill out
[08:31] <THX-1138> britt - We are off-topic so make the question short before the hammer falls.
[08:31] <Healot> holy cow!
[08:32] <holycow> variant, i'm pure chill bro, people misunderstand text ... the metadata doesn't carry over
[08:32] <britt> ah its alrigth
[08:32] <holycow> i'm smiling infact ... can't you tell?
[08:32] <holycow> hehe :)
[08:32] <britt> i'm lost
[08:32] <tk> anyone familiar with bluetooth?
[08:32] <variant> grr, i hate typing on an ibook g4.. keep copy/pasting random text witht he touch pad
[08:32] <Healot> tk, my tooth are white :)
[08:32] <THX-1138> !bluetooth
[08:32] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:32] <holycow> heh yeah , that one got me too
[08:32] <variant> tk: mine are white.. mostly
[08:32] <THX-1138> tk - Did that help?
[08:33] <jldugger> britt. its simple, you get your cluster, set em up in a network and put in a cluster computing live CD
[08:33] <tk> THX-1138: thanks... ill check it out (mine stopped working after hooking up a new hub -- even the old hub wont work now)
[08:33] <djuussGUIroot> whats the difference between desktop and alternate when downloading 6.06 iso's ?
[08:33] <Rasta> someone here has tried crossover office over wine or vmware?
[08:33] <holycow> britt, what do you meant?
[08:33] <The_Jack_of_Club> ubotu is pretty helpful :)
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is pretty helpful :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <holycow> why the hell doyou need deepfreeze for linux?
[08:33] <The_Jack_of_Club> !vmware
[08:33] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[08:33] <djuussGUIroot> !alternate
[08:33] <holycow> thats really just wrong
[08:33] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[08:33] <holycow> its a seriously bad idea first
[08:33] <hayden> !cluster
[08:33] <holycow> second
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <variant> britt: what does deepfreeze do?
[08:33] <holycow> setup your linux box right and no one can do jack
[08:33] <djuussGUIroot> !desktop
[08:33] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[08:33] <holycow> :)
[08:34] <rylasasin> when I tried to install that plugin you mentioned It says "break (install)" and wont let me install
[08:34] <holycow> anything deepfreeze can do you can setup on linux already
[08:34] <THX-1138> tk - yes, too fragile. Maybe umounted the wrong way.
[08:34] <holycow> if you want to reinitializehome dirs no prob, simple script
[08:34] <holycow> you want reset stuff, no problem simple script
[08:34] <jldugger> heh, deepfreeze = unionfs + mount / ro + tmpfs ;)
[08:34] <rylasasin> I cant install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin help!
[08:35] <variant> jldugger: what is deepfreeze?
[08:35] <holycow> you want to backup the entire os .. no problem setup a backup process ... or do somehing like stuffing into cvs or whatever the latest code management tool is
[08:35] <laska> Guys, how do i install tar.gz file? I did unpack it, but can't compile. [make]  don't work
[08:35] <holycow> the basic ideas is FORGET EVERYTHING YOU LEARNED ON WINDOWS
[08:35] <holycow> its wrong
[08:35] <holycow> it doesn't apply and most of the ideas are just bad
[08:35] <variant> laska: apt-get install build-essential
[08:35] <jldugger> variant, its a windows program, afaik, that prevents users from touching the hard drive, because windows was retarded for a long time
[08:35] <holycow> and you can usually do everything already via the gobs of tools you have for free
[08:35] <variant> jldugger: lol
[08:35] <laska> t.y.
[08:36] <rylasasin> well the idea of makeing it easier to use ammong common people wasn't wrong
[08:36] <THX-1138> Good night all! - Thanks again.
[08:36] <holycow> nite
[08:36] <djuussGUIroot> whats the easiest way to burn a .iso to a cd, no bells and whistles?
[08:36] <rylasasin> its the bugs it broght along with it and vulnerabilities that was wrong
[08:36] <britt> variant: oh man! okay deepfreeze takes your windows install and makes a small image, and restores from that image at every boot
[08:36] <holycow> rylasasin, no it is wrong  because deep freeze does some very very nasty things
[08:36] <britt> so you always have a fresh instance of windows
[08:36] <rylasasin> oh I thought you meant just windows
[08:36] <holycow> windows idea of 'ease of use' is not really 'ease of use'
[08:36] <Healot> cdrecord >> surely no whistles and bells
[08:36] <holycow> windows 'ease of use' is actually '15 + years of training'
[08:37] <variant> britt: oh yeah, christ.. why you need that on linux? just dont allow system changes with permissions.. no need for stupid hacks like that
[08:37] <holycow> most people mistake 'familiarity with a particular way of doing things' with 'ease of use'
[08:37] <djuussGUIroot> ok thanks healot, at least i already have that installed
[08:37] <holycow> variant, 'xactly
[08:37] <Rasta> when IE its running trough vmware it can acces the apache server installed on linux?
[08:37] <britt> variant: well phpbb is my reason. ive been hacked over and over again. I would like something i could turn on and leave on, and when it gets hacked i restart
[08:37] <variant> djuussGUIroot: cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdrom filename.iso
[08:37] <rylasasin> anyway how do I get totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin synaptic and adept arent' letting me do it
[08:38] <britt> something like that. I hardly find phpbb2 to be secure.
[08:38] <Madpilot> britt, "Don't run phpbb" seems like an even saner solution...
[08:38] <holycow> Rasta, depends on your networking config.  if everything is setup right, the answer is yes but it will do it over the virtual network vmware sets up
[08:38] <djuussGUIroot> thanks variant. It's all coming back to me slowly, been a while
[08:38] <laska> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25715/
[08:38] <variant> britt: if it gets hacked it means that somone has found a flaw and is exploiting it.. if you replace the hacked system with exactly the same system it will be hacked within seconds of rebooting
[08:38] <holycow> britt, vmware.com
[08:38] <holycow> check out vmware server, its free to use
[08:38] <holycow> its not open source but it costs nothing
[08:39] <britt> Madpilot: seems like a good idea to me, which is why the reason why I took it off of my linode
[08:39] <holycow> you can setup as many virtual servers as your hardware can handle
[08:39] <tk> TH
[08:39] <jldugger> phpbb is about as bad as windows as far as security
[08:39] <variant> britt: and what about your database?
[08:39] <Healot> free beer for all virtualizations
[08:39] <holycow> you take snapshots ... and when you get hacked you just roll back the entire os
[08:39] <variant> britt: will that not accept new users?
[08:39] <britt> variant: what about it?
[08:39] <holycow> you can also use xen or other things
[08:39] <variant> britt: will that be part of the disk image too?
[08:39] <Madpilot> night all
[08:39] <holycow> britt, forget any of that windows nonsense :)
[08:39] <tk> THX-1138: worked, thanks :) will just setup my stuff command line the first time :)
[08:39] <MZM> how can I get dbase support for PHP5?
[08:39] <variant> britt: there are alternatives to phpbb..
[08:39] <britt> holycow: dude, i havent ran windows in over three years
[08:39] <jldugger> variant, the db is probably not on the server running phpBB
[08:39] <britt> straight.
[08:39] <Rasta> holycow, ok, what i want to know its if a website that im testing locally in apache can be accesed by both, the linux native browsers and IE running trough vmware
[08:40] <holycow> MZM, that is a #php questio nactually
[08:40] <holycow> :)
[08:40] <Rasta> thanks
[08:40] <holycow> britt, sweet :)
[08:40] <variant> jldugger: by default.. it is
[08:40] <britt> I love it, i was *SO* tired of re-doing crap every three months
[08:40] <MZM> holycow: well - it's on Ubuntu
[08:40] <holycow> Rasta, yes they can, no problem at all
[08:40] <Rasta> excellent
[08:40] <holycow> MZM, that makes no difference
[08:40] <britt> I have a OLD 1.7Ghz P4 system with Rambus ram that has been running and playing music for weeks now with no hiccups
[08:40] <MZM> holycow: I dont ask how to use it, buth how it is done in Ubuntu
[08:41] <holycow> setting up a particular individual package is generally an area of expertice requiring specialized knowledge ... this is just a general ubuntu chan probably wont find the help here.  i'm just trying to be helpfull thats all.
[08:41] <djuussGUIroot> haha britt i have one of those
[08:41] <djuussGUIroot> the first p4 :P
[08:41] <holycow> MZM, its done the same as in any distro, php config doesn't change actually
[08:41] <britt> djuussGUIroot: yep. 2 bad caps caused major issues. resoldered caps and its stable, i'll wait till it dies.
[08:41] <MZM> holycow: you mean - recompile?
[08:42] <Phlosten> old p4? wow, now i feel like i am on an ancient machine i still run an athlon 1.6Ghz as my main workstation :)
[08:42] <vanhtu1987> Hi, will someone answer this question please ? Does the kernel support image blitting in console ?
[08:42] <britt> I'm still waiting for my p3 800 board to die lol
[08:42] <holycow> britt,  this here is a 1.4 ghz thunderbird system used as a home desktop system
[08:42] <variant> vanhtu1987: tile blitting?
[08:42] <rylasasin> http://moskaudance.ytmnd.com/ what do I need to make the sound play on this site... isn't flash I have that already
[08:42] <holycow> it does everything, i have no need reason to get rid of it :)
[08:42] <variant> vanhtu1987: if thats what you mean then yes i think it does
[08:42] <vanhtu1987> no, I mean support displaying images ?
[08:42] <holycow> MZM, generally no, on debian/ubuntu you just install the php package then the right modules
[08:42] <djuussGUIroot> man that thing cost me an arm and a leg, i also got the first geforce 3 in it
[08:42] <variant> vanhtu1987: yes, using hte frame buffer
[08:42] <britt> I have a ibook next to me (g3) but I cnat get wifi here at the office
[08:42] <vanhtu1987> hte ?
[08:43] <variant> vanhtu1987: for example, you can watch a movie full screen without x on the fb
[08:43] <MZM> holycow: so - back to my first Q: which one?
[08:43] <variant> vanhtu1987: using mplayer
[08:43] <djuussGUIroot> just that geforce was as expensive as the ps3 when it just came out 0_o
[08:43] <holycow> MZM, i won't be able to tell you exactly what package you need for php5 but i do know all you would need is to installed prebuilt packages.  i'm sorry i cannot be more specific than that.
[08:43] <vanhtu1987> can you please give me a direction/link ?
[08:43] <vanhtu1987> I've used mplayer for video playing but that was only in ASCII
[08:43] <wickedpuppy> MZM, actually if you search for php in synaptic you could see ... nvm :P
[08:43] <variant> vanhtu1987: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_MPlayer_on_Framebuffer
[08:44] <rylasasin> http://moskaudance.ytmnd.com/ what do I need to make the sound play on this site... isn't flash I have that already
[08:44] <holycow> mzm  apt-cache search php5 should give you a good start you can muck about with
[08:44] <holycow> php5-odbc  might help if thats how you are accessing dbs
[08:45] <vanhtu1987> thanks, my actual question is: I have w3m and installed w3m-img, in X terminal the images were displaying perfectly, will it be possile in console ?
[08:45] <wickedpuppy> mind ya .. mysql has its own php5 package .. unless i am wrong
[08:45] <variant> vanhtu1987: not that i am aware of
[08:45] <holycow> i think it does but i'venot done any php stuff in yhears
[08:45] <variant> vanhtu1987: it may be though..
[08:45] <variant> vanhtu1987: i have never seen it
[08:45] <kraut> moin
[08:46] <variant> vanhtu1987: there is a small x implementation for embedded devices you could use at a push i suppose
[08:46] <rylasasin> hmmm looks like its just wavs that need to find out how to get to play off the net
[08:46] <variant> rylasasin: you have mplayer plugin or somthing for firefox?
[08:46] <vanhtu1987> variant: ok, thanks anyway. apt-cache show w3m-img gave me a hint that w3m-img supports inline images in X terminal and 'Linux frame buffer'' ? I wonder what does 'frame buffer' mean ?
[08:47] <vanhtu1987> lsmod said 'fbcon' and 'vesafb' modules were loaded.
[08:47] <variant> vanhtu1987: its direct access to the graphics cards frame buffer.. if your card is supported (probably is) then that should work'
[08:47] <variant> vanhtu1987: thats a good start :)'
[08:47] <holycow> time to rebootie
[08:48] <variant> vanhtu1987: test it with mplayer -vo fb file.avi
[08:48] <holycow> lets see if upstart successfully replaced initv here :)
[08:48] <rylasasin> didn't
[08:48] <Rasta> one more doubt, a virtual machine like vmware when using it it takes the half of the pc resources?
[08:48] <variant> Rasta: vmware or other simmilar software generaly use as little resources as possihble
[08:48] <vanhtu1987> variant: thank you, I'll try that. I'l come back with w3m later.
[08:49] <variant> Rasta: its normaly possible to get modified guest os's to run with minnimal slow down.. like 4% drop in performance
[08:49] <variant> vanhtu1987: gl
[08:49] <rylasasin> I have mplayer plugin but thats not helping
[08:49] <rylasasin> variant
[08:49] <fateisajester> he y i just went to walmart and decided to get a video card so that i can have 3d acceleration. before i open the box i wanted to ask if anyone know weather or not it will work. it is a geforce mx4000
[08:49] <variant> rylasasin: sorry, cant really help then.. you could try one of the other plugins.. there are many
[08:50] <Rasta> variant, ok, but for example i need it to use photoshop managing a lot of images and using memory extensively, thats not a problem then, or its configurable
[08:50] <rylasasin> like what?
[08:50] <variant> fateisajester: yes it will work, you will need to isntall nvidia drivesr though'
[08:50] <jldugger> rylasasin, totem-xine-firefox-plugin =/
[08:50] <rylasasin> I don't know what to try, i'm just a simple windows convert trying to prove that linux CAN be used in the real world.
[08:50] <fateisajester> do you know where i can read up on that>
[08:50] <variant> Rasta: vmware or other simmilar programs are really not designed for that kind of work
[08:51] <jldugger> rylasasin, it can be, looks like you just picked a bad day =(
[08:51] <variant> Rasta: performance will not be optimal imo.. i have never tried it with photoshop though so ymmv
[08:51] <Rasta> variant, ok, ill try, this is the last shoot to dump windows or i will stay with both OS on my pc
[08:51] <variant> jldugger: I have allready proved that gnu/linux can be used int he real world...
[08:52] <Ayabara> In fc5 I had to add a couple of lines to /etc/yp.conf, saying 'domain <name> server nis'. can't find yp.conf in ubuntu. is the file named something else, or isn't the configuration the same?
[08:52] <variant> Rasta: is it photoshop you need only?
[08:52] <Rasta> yes
[08:52] <Khamael> shouldn`t there be a ubuntu-aiglx channel?
[08:52] <variant> Rasta: then you are SOL
[08:52] <holycow> variant, i'm switching our company of 200 desktops to ubuntu
[08:52] <holycow> oh yes indeedy it can be done
[08:52] <variant> Khamael: #ubuntu-xgl
[08:52] <Rasta> SOL?
[08:52] <variant> Khamael: for both xgl and aiglx
[08:52] <holycow> what do you mean?
[08:52] <holycow> gimp is a fine ps replacement
[08:52] <Khamael> variant: ok
[08:53] <variant> Rasta: sh#t out of luck :/
[08:53] <variant> holycow: hardly
[08:53] <holycow> *cough*
[08:53] <Rasta> haha
[08:53] <variant> holycow: but lets not start that argument
[08:53] <holycow> scuseme punk?
[08:53] <holycow> :)
[08:53] <Rasta> holycow, yeah hardly
[08:53] <holycow> i use it in production ... albeit not print :)
[08:53] <britt> is there any use for a huge HP NetServer these days? 3x9.1GB SCSI RAID 5 array
[08:53] <rob> I'm sure I could give it a good home at least :)
[08:54] <variant> for simple images or modifications to photos it is adequate but for any advanced stuff it is a pita
[08:54] <holycow> yeah all ps users say that
[08:54] <Rasta> :(
[08:54] <variant> britt: yeah, post it to me
[08:54] <holycow> i've tested out all those users
[08:54] <holycow> they usually know jack shit
[08:54] <MistaED> rylasasin: i use photoshop 7 under wine, even works properly with the tablet
[08:54] <britt> variant: huh?
[08:54] <holycow> and are not willing to learn new ways of doing things
[08:54] <avagant_> guys so far i like fluxbox, cept aterm things.
[08:54] <variant> britt: i have used gimp for about 5 years..
[08:54] <avagant_> !aterm
[08:54] <ubotu> aterm: Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1 (dapper), package size 77 kB, installed size 224 kB
[08:54] <holycow> ps users are basically too arogant to let go of their warez
[08:54] <laska> is there channel where newbie can get info?
[08:54] <avagant_> !xterm
[08:54] <ubotu> xterm: X terminal emulator. In component main, is optional. Version 208-3.1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 387 kB, installed size 960 kB
[08:55] <variant> holycow: and i have used ps for about 2
[08:55] <avagant_> !eterm
[08:55] <ubotu> eterm: Enlightened Terminal Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-8.3build2 (dapper), package size 431 kB, installed size 1096 kB
[08:55] <holycow> variant, i've used ps since about ps3 or 4
[08:55] <britt> variant: awesome man, gimp is cool
[08:55] <jldugger> holycow, understandable, given that their profession is built  upon using this horribly complex piece of software ;)
[08:55] <holycow> i cannot remember when i started
[08:55] <rylasasin> hmmm totem-xine-firefox-plugin works, but its fuzzy
[08:55] <holycow> i used to be a professional graphic designer before i decided that i didn't like my clients thinking they knew more about design than me
[08:55] <variant> britt: gimp is ok, I dont like it though
[08:55] <holycow> yep gimp and cmyk don't mix, but there isn't a lot else it can't do.
[08:56] <holycow>  variant that is usually what it comes down to
[08:56] <holycow> people don't like but
[08:56] <avagant_> i wish photoshop came with linux
[08:56] <holycow> it has nothing to do with it not being good enough
[08:56] <holycow> its a stupendously capable tool
[08:56] <Rasta> it does
[08:56] <britt> variant: is tehre anythign 'better' than gimp? I think its too....bloated for light tasks
[08:56] <avagant_> actually photoshop is pretty bloated.
[08:56] <holycow> if anyone needs a ps replacement it can really really do a bangup job, especially if you forget the ps shortcuts and learn the new ones
[08:57] <rylasasin> not to mention expensive
[08:57] <jldugger> rylasasin, which is partly why I suggested gstreamer.  unfortunately it currently depends on something that isn't in the repos at the moment.  might be up tomorrow. or ask in #ubuntu-motu why totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin is broken
[08:57] <variant> britt: kpain, xpaint, tuxpaint, there are a bunch of vector editors too that are nice
[08:57] <chemaja> krita?
[08:57] <britt> cool
[08:57] <MistaED> variant: i've tried to use the gimp recently, compared to photoshop it's not bad
[08:57] <headcrash> hey, I've created a user, but I can log in as that user because I haven't set a password for it. How do I do that?
[08:57] <britt> i'm out fellas, later! thanks for all the help :)
[08:57] <avagant_> yah, too bad when i got this computer with windoze it came with photoshop already installed.
[08:57] <holycow> you REALLY REALLY haveto force your self to use gimp
[08:57] <variant> MistaED: its all personal preference'
[08:57] <avagant_> I can't figure out gimp, all the menu's are crazy.
[08:57] <holycow> i will freely admit that it took a looooooong time to RELEARN that
[08:57] <iamtheobject> heh, my girl asked me to install ubuntu after she played with the desktop one I have, I gace her the disk and said put it in and click the install button
[08:57] <iamtheobject> heh
[08:57] <jldugger> but man i really hate the multiwindow layout. ps isn't any better though =(
[08:57] <holycow> once you learn ps, man it is harder than giving up crack
[08:57] <MistaED> some things i have trouble with is trying to adjust the brush size more than 19x19 and the brush editor wouldn't let me click on anything to make it bigger
[08:58] <headcrash> USE THE GIMPSHOP PLUGIN TO MAKE IT FEEL MORE LIKE PHOTOSHOP
[08:58] <Rasta> dude, this PHotoshop-gimp argument always its the same
[08:58] <halex-ab> lol
[08:58] <iamtheobject> two days later pratically computer stupid person using ubuntu for everything
[08:58] <czer323> holycow, i think it's because we're soooo used to photoshop. i mean, hell if they started putting the steering wheels on the other side of the car, we'd all throw fits.
[08:58] <avagant_> there's a gimpshop plugin?
[08:58] <holycow> but once you get it, the gimp designers are right, the gui actually is pretty darned good and very fast ... plus or minus a few things
[08:58] <holycow> czer323, imho i agree 100%
[08:58] <headcrash> avagant_, yes. google it. best thing you'll do all day.
[08:58] <MistaED> the gimp works far better with layers/alpha maps than photoshop does though, far better
[08:58] <halex-ab> to me, it's just the lack of plugins..
[08:58] <holycow> it took me about 1.5 years to get my brain around
[08:58] <mjr> (it's not a plugin)
[08:58] <czer323> avagant_, not a plugin.  different install of gimp with different layouts similar to photoshop
[08:58] <holycow> your right, its like a mindsuck ...
[08:58] <rylasasin> lol
[08:58] <variant> holycow: lol, the gimp developers are programmers not artists. they are arogant as anyone i have ever seen to boot
[08:59] <headcrash> so anyway, I need help - how do I set a password for a user that I've created, but has no password?
[08:59] <holycow> variant, actually thats not quite true
[08:59] <variant> holycow: #gimp on irc.gimp.net and you wills ee what i mean
[08:59] <holycow> variant, i used to think that too
[08:59] <Rasta> variant, thats the problem
[08:59] <holycow> oh i know i'm banned
[08:59] <holycow> :)
[08:59] <vanhtu1987> headcrash: passwd [username] 
[08:59] <rylasasin> not to mention PS costs an arm and a leg
[08:59] <Rasta> mmm
[08:59] <variant> holycow: i have spoken with them many times. i know exactly what i am talking about
[08:59] <holycow> they may be jackasses but they actually know workflow quite well
[08:59] <headcrash> vanhtu1987, thx
[08:59] <rylasasin> more than a new computer these says almost
[08:59] <halex-ab> headcrash, or sudo -u <user> passwd
[08:59] <czer323> I think a lot of linux stuff needs to seriously undergo usability studies.  i mean, yeah, it may do everything in the world, but without being relateively easy to do... Who wants to use it?
[08:59] <holycow> its  not as bad as people say the situation is
[08:59] <djuussGUIroot> whoot 6.06 downloaded :D
[08:59] <holycow> variant, like i said, i'm banned
[08:59] <djuussGUIroot> goodbye irc as root !
[08:59] <avagant_> I really want to learn aterm.
[08:59] <holycow> :)
[09:00] <kraut> CEO of redhat died :(
[09:00] <Rasta> holycow, then why people dont use gimp
[09:00] <djuussGUIroot> now i gotta find an empty cd
[09:00] <Rasta> if youre good youre good
[09:00] <variant> holycow: why are you banned?
[09:00] <holycow> Rasta, from personal experience as an ex graphic designer for years
[09:00] <rylasasin> i agree with czer323
[09:00] <variant> avagant_: what do you want to learn exactly?
[09:00] <holycow> Rasta, i decided to switch because i really like open source and if i wanna preach it i gotta know it
[09:00] <jldugger> czer323, i think the usabiltiy studies are what's killing gnome's nautilus
[09:00] <holycow> it took me about 1.5 years to remap the knowledge in my mind ... or get used to it
[09:00] <djuussGUIroot> dude, RedHat is what got me into linux :S redhat 9 as a 12 yr old, it didnt bother me that it didnt work with my DSL line, it was so shiny and pretty compared to WinME
[09:01] <holycow> once you use ps ... it is very hard to unlearn
[09:01] <czer323> jldugger> how so?
[09:01] <Naked_Snake> Tommorow, fellows, I'm gonna go to war with a bottle and emerge victorious
[09:01] <rylasasin> amen to that
[09:01] <holycow> my only issue with ps users is that they refuse to admit that
[09:01] <czer323> holycow> that's because it's so intuitive. ;)
[09:01] <holycow> i have no problem with someone saying its hard
[09:01] <holycow> czer323, actually its not
[09:01] <Rasta> holycow, i undersnat that, really, but not everybody has 1.5 years to "get used to it"
[09:01] <holycow> czer323, people are mixing up metaphors
[09:01] <avagant_> variant: Well I see all these people with fluxbox and their transparent awesome aterms.
[09:01] <holycow> infact i know think ps is unintitive
[09:01] <holycow> the gimp ui is very vey well organized
[09:01] <variant> avagant_: its very simple'
[09:01] <djuussGUIroot> hehe
[09:02] <holycow> what people call 'intuitive' they mistake for '10 + years of using it and memorizing it'
[09:02] <rylasasin> I thnk ubuntu has got to make things more automated
[09:02] <jldugger> czer323, well, spatial nautilus for one
[09:02] <holycow> there is a funny thing i have noticed in our transition to linux
[09:02] <Rasta> flame graphic wars!
[09:02] <djuussGUIroot> this is the same discussion as Notepad users saying ' omg VI is so counter-intuitive'
[09:02] <holycow> users DON'T learn how to use a ui
[09:02] <holycow> users MEMORIZE  ui
[09:02] <holycow> thats it right there
[09:02] <czer323> jldugger> spatial is disabled by default in ubuntu.
[09:02] <Rasta> djuussGUIroot, true
[09:02] <halex-ab> holycow, indeed
[09:02] <rylasasin> EG: less useage of the terminal and mroe usuage of automatic installers
[09:02] <variant> avagant_: read the manpage but for a tester here: aterm -trsb -tr -tint cyan -fg red
[09:02] <holycow> the problem is that people haveto FORGET the ps ui and MEMORIZE  new one for the exact same thing
[09:02] <holycow> memorizing is a lot of work
[09:02] <czer323> jldugger, and it's actually a similar feature to mac's finder.  top right has a button to hide all the extra fluff, aka shortcuts, back buttons etc.
[09:02] <avagant_> it doesn't change it for me.
[09:02] <holycow> instead we need to work on teaching people how to LEARN A UI
[09:02] <variant> avagant_: it has been a long time since i used it so the -tr may not be correct.. thats just off the top of my head
[09:02] <holycow> its a whole other thing
[09:03] <holycow> infact
[09:03] <halex-ab> but it isn't gonna happen..
[09:03] <holycow> photoshop works the same on a mac as gimp does on linux ... i.e. its not mdi
[09:03] <holycow> yet we get all windows ujsers comming in saying why gimp isn't mdi
[09:03] <avagant_> variant: that's awesome. so i guess i have to - the transparency to make it work.
[09:03] <halex-ab> then again, there's more windows users than mac..
[09:03] <Rasta> holycow, gimp needs a lot to reach the PS functionality
[09:03] <variant> holycow: thats rediculous.. a UI by definition should require minimal teaching. it should be obvious. look at the gnome human interface guidelines
[09:03] <czer323> holycow> teaching people something would cost too much time for people.  Which is why you make products FOR people.  They want to do things.  Not learn how to do things.
[09:03] <Rasta> thats a fact
[09:03] <variant> avagant_: sorry?'
[09:03] <holycow> well duuuh ... the question translates to 'why do i haveto memorize this when i spent all that time meorizing that'
[09:04] <rylasasin> agreed with rasta
[09:04] <holycow> Rasta, not true.  outside of channel bit depth and cmyk, what does it need?
[09:04] <halex-ab> and in the end, give up if the ui is too radically different..
[09:04] <avagant_> variant: It doesn't usually stay for me, maybe i'm just not doing it right.
[09:04] <djuussGUIroot> hey quick, cdrecord, howto?
[09:04] <holycow> variant, actually i used to think that, but its wrong
[09:04] <avagant_> variant: like if i change the title or something, it doesn't stick.
[09:04] <djuussGUIroot> cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw <filename> ?
[09:04] <holycow> you haveto understand learning styles
[09:04] <variant> avagant_: ah, put it in .bashrc
[09:04] <djuussGUIroot> its an iso, its got to go on a cd
[09:05] <holycow> i don't want to argue, i do want to say that the key revolves around people 'memorizing spatially where the ui icons are'
[09:05] <holycow> the dont learn how to 'use a ui'
[09:05] <avagant_> variant: What about .Xdefaults?
[09:05] <variant> lol
[09:05] <jldugger> czer323, removing the location bar in favor of the boxes seems to have pissed one guy off who's gone about claiming gnome is slowly copying older and older versions of Mac
[09:05] <variant> avagant_: hmm, it was so long since i set this up :) yes Xdefaults is what i mean!
[09:05] <holycow> its not a one way street, as much work as needs to be done on a ui end of things, as much work needs to be done by the user to learn the tool
[09:05] <vanhtu1987> variant: thank you, this is perfect :) I've got w3m working
[09:05] <avagant_> variant: hahaha
[09:05] <Geoffrey2> rylasasin, it seems to me there's this fundamental debate in the Linux community as to which direction the movement should be going....
[09:05] <berent> when i start dapper i get error :This program cannot start until you start the dbus system service.
[09:05] <berent> It is strongly recommended you reboot your compter after starting messagebus.
[09:05] <variant> vanhtu1987: excellent
[09:05] <avagant_> !w3m
[09:05] <ubotu> w3m: WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is standard. Version 0.5.1-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1036 kB, installed size 1816 kB
[09:06] <czer323> jldugger> uh, you can turn the location bar back on.
[09:06] <rylasasin> actually I think that while Ubuntu has done good so far with this (better than windows in some ways), it needs to get even more easy to use when it comes to updates and plugins and installing things
[09:06] <avagant_> !fluxbox
[09:06] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[09:06] <sidny4> I'm using the live CD to recover some stuff from my raid 0 partitions
[09:06] <holycow> rylasasin, it cannot get easier
[09:06] <sidny4> how do I mount so that I can read and write?
[09:06] <avagant_> I really like fluxbox though, now if I could only step it up right the way I want to.
[09:06] <rylasasin> cause people see terminals and it tells them that its hard to use
[09:06] <sidny4> I'm using dmraid
[09:06] <holycow> rylasasin, any easier and everyone will be running as root
[09:06] <czer323> jldugger, or just hit ctrl-l to start typing in the folder you wanna go to.
[09:06] <rylasasin> lol
[09:06] <holycow> rylasasin, what you are basically is saying is the same thing as microsoft
[09:06] <variant> rylasasin: yeah, installing software should be simpler on all operating systems. windows has a good idea but badly implemented
[09:06] <berent> any takers here
[09:06] <holycow> that convenience trumps security
[09:06] <SoftIce> hello, how to I install php-pcntl on dapper, there are no packages maching my disciption
[09:06] <berent> on power manager
[09:06] <avagant_> I had kde but it made my computer run about as fast as the old apple sitting in the garage.
[09:06] <SoftIce> i'v even tried --include-pcntl
[09:07] <holycow> in which case, people should jus tuse windows ... the virus infested crap heap it is
[09:07] <variant> berent: you have dbus installed?
[09:07] <czer323> jldugger, hell, next time you're in nautilus, notice how you can type the folder's name and it will highlight.  hit enter, it's in that folde.r  Way easier than remembering exact spelling of folders without seeing them.
[09:07] <sidny4> how do I mount a partition with read/write using dmraid?
[09:07] <berent> variant: i dont know
[09:07] <variant> berent: perhaps dbus is crashing
[09:07] <jldugger> czer323, yea, autocomplete is nice
[09:07] <sidny4> I can mount it, but I can't write to it
[09:07] <berent> yes
[09:07] <variant> berent: run /etc/init.d/dbus start
[09:07] <berent> what to do
[09:07] <Rasta> again, thinking as a programers and not as "standard" to say it in some way, users
[09:07] <SoftIce> Does anyone know how to install PHP-PCNTL on Ubuntu Dapper, the package no longer exsists ?
[09:07] <czer323> jldugger> not just autocomplete.  that's been around forever.  Just navigating and selecting folders in nautilus.
[09:07] <holycow> Rasta, thats wrong too
[09:08] <holycow> your statement is heavily biased
[09:08] <variant> SoftIce: if there is no package you will probably have to compile the source
[09:08] <berent> variant : i started it
[09:08] <berent> variant:shud i reboot
[09:08] <SoftIce> I'm wondering if PHP-CLI has it included?
[09:08] <holycow> you are making assumptions about learning styles that a) are incorrect and b) you arent even making any attempt to find out whether or not this is an issue
[09:08] <czer323> jldugger, which is why I applaud the fact that linux is becoming easier to use.  Why should things be hard to use?  Would you make kids goto a school to learn things the hard way when there are newer better ways of doing thigns?
[09:08] <czer323> aka, graphic calculator or using pen and paper?
[09:08] <variant> berent: berent hmm, possibly'
[09:08] <czer323> if it's easier... why not use it.
[09:08] <holycow> that one has really bit me over the last year during our pilot projects
[09:08] <variant> berent: take a look at the log iles though
[09:08] <variant> berent: type dmesg
[09:09] <avagant_> I saw somebody browsing the web with a xterm/aterm and instantly broke out in a cold sweat.
[09:09] <czer323> Wow, this isn't offtopic? ;)
[09:09] <variant> berent: also "less /var/log/messages
[09:09] <avagant_> I thought to myself, wow.
[09:09] <tk> hmmm well, one more problem to over come with my bluetooth hub now... how to get it to reconnect when its plugged in
[09:09] <Shadowpillar> sometimes, when you dont have the new methods, the old "harder" methods are the best way to fix things
[09:09] <rylasasin> I mean I think you could put it in a computer illiterate persons home or in a business office that doesn't use anything else except the tools that come with it and they will use it with no problem
[09:09] <variant> avagant_: yeah lynx in aterm  is nice :)'
[09:09] <tk> ie, unplugged/plugged back
[09:09] <Rasta> holycow, thay are just facts, the only people that use linux are geeks mostly
[09:09] <jldugger> czer323, he's just a kde fanatic, and i partly agree. it just seems like changes occur not because they're better but because thats how os9 did it
[09:09] <czer323> avagant_, uh, would you really want to use a term for internet?
[09:09] <avagant_> czer323: Yes, and I have.
[09:09] <jldugger> but i hear nautilus is running low on maintianers
[09:09] <CharonX> Does anyone know how I can move the close window "X" from the right corner of all the application windows to the left corner ? I cannot find anything like that in the preferences but I know it can be done. Anyone have an idea ?
[09:09] <avagant_> !lynx
[09:09] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache2
[09:10] <avagant_> Wait.
[09:10] <halex-ab> Rasta, do I really look like a geek from waay over there?
[09:10] <halex-ab> heh
[09:10] <holycow> Rasta, not facts.  thats just bias.  i wont convince you of it unfortunately as irc really doesn't exceed beyond one pimping their own ideas into empty space
[09:10] <variant> tk: what do you mean?
[09:10] <jldugger> CharonX, its a window Theme thing. you'd have to make your own theme or find one that does that for you.
[09:10] <variant> avagant_: that doesnt really list even most of them
[09:10] <djuussGUIroot> i use linux because i cant help it
[09:10] <tk> variant: if i unplug the dongle, and then plug it back in, it wont reconnect my devices
[09:10] <variant> tk: thats a problem..
[09:10] <djuussGUIroot> i cant stand windoze for more then 3 months
[09:10] <rylasasin> but to the home user (where the real market is) its still hard to use it seems
[09:10] <variant> tk: what make is it?'
[09:10] <holycow> the sad part is the situation is a lot better than it seems, but people are so convinced this is a geeks domain they belive stupid things like programmers cannot build good uis
[09:10] <holycow> heh
[09:11] <holycow> ah weel
[09:11] <CharonX> jldugger, Thanks, that is what I thought, but none of the default themes had it moved. Guess its theme hunting for me. Thanks again
[09:11] <Rasta> holycow, ok dude, this discussion take us to nowhere
[09:11] <czer323> avagant_ why would you WANT to use a term browser unless X woudlnt' start?
[09:11] <holycow> well even
[09:11] <Healot> djuussGUIroot, I have been using windows since Windows 3.1
[09:11] <tk> variant: I have a logitech and a unicorn adapter
[09:11] <czer323> There's no possible reason.
[09:11] <holycow> Rasta, congratulations captain obvious
[09:11] <Healot> still i know my Windows :)
[09:11] <variant> tk: gimmie a momment
[09:11] <holycow> you do know you are on irc right?
[09:11] <berent> variant:btw whats this dbus for
[09:11] <avagant_> czer323: Just to do it?
[09:11] <tk> variant: ok thanks :)
[09:11] <berent> variant:for hal
[09:11] <djuussGUIroot> i'm a fish in the water with windows, dont get me wrong
[09:11] <czer323> avagant_> I can pick my nose and put my boogers on my girlfriend, but is it really that good of an idea?
[09:11] <Rasta> lol, thats it a linux fan
[09:11] <variant> berent: its a message passing system, takes a message from one prgram and passes it to annother or from system to system/service etc
[09:11] <Rasta> all are the same
[09:12] <Shadowpillar> personally I find the newbie zealotism hilarious in here
[09:12] <avagant_> czer323: Yes?
[09:12] <Shadowpillar> I believe most of that goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:12] <tk> woah, the volumen up key on my keyboard opens Calculator.... interesting
[09:12] <djuussGUIroot> i just prefer getting lost in sea over knowing everything there is to know about my little aquarium
[09:12] <berent> variant:ok lemme reboot and see nothing much in logs
[09:12] <rylasasin> hmmm when will there be a 586 version and 686 version of ubuntu?
[09:12] <variant> tk: lol
[09:12] <variant> berent: ok
[09:12] <Shadowpillar> ubuntu gets the job done in the quickest most efficient way and it's cost effective, that's why I use it.
[09:12] <holycow> one mans zealot is another mans enthusiast :)
[09:12] <holycow> its good to see noobs being excited
[09:13] <jldugger> berent, its a way to notify programs of events like a new usb mass storage drive was plugged in (by passing messages informing interested programs that an event has occured)
[09:13] <Shadowpillar> ryanakca: there is.
[09:13] <Shadowpillar> are
[09:13] <Shadowpillar> rylasasin: there is
[09:13] <czer323> Linux seriously needs to become easier to use before it's mainstream.  For example, TRY to setup dual monitors.  I can tell you in like 5 steps how to do it on mac or windows.  Why is it so hard to do on linux?
[09:13] <unfknblvbl> !iso
[09:13] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:13] <Shadowpillar> it's called installing the linux 686 kernel
[09:13] <djuussGUIroot> errr its not that easy on windows either
[09:13] <unfknblvbl> !dvd
[09:13] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:13] <variant> tk: if you unplug it and plug it in what does dmesg say?'
[09:13] <holycow> czer323, it doesn't even  haveto become mainstream
[09:13] <jldugger> Shadowpillar, i think he means building the packages for i686
[09:13] <rylasasin> lol
[09:13] <tk> variant: let me check
[09:13] <unfknblvbl> what can i use to burn ISO ?
[09:13] <jldugger> which wont happen any time soon
[09:13] <holycow> czer323, i don't see why it has to become mainstream to begin with
[09:13] <Shadowpillar> czer323: because of how X is designed, X wasnt meant for many modern day uses
[09:14] <holycow> whos goal is this?  why do you want joe windows user that doesn't care about security to use linux?
[09:14] <rylasasin> see its that idea holycow that makes people think that linux is just geek based
[09:14] <Geoffrey2> czer323, the question becomes, does the Linux world WANT the O/S to become "mainstream".....I think the jury's still out on that one
[09:14] <avagant_> I like taking screenshots with the terminal.
[09:14] <variant> tk: is the hub detected but not hte devices attached or nothing not even the hub is detected?
[09:14] <Shadowpillar> people argue X is the best way to go and keep it at that, yes, X works, but it has some things about it that make it extremely antiquated
[09:14] <holycow> i think its enough to just get a slice of the pie, big enough to get hardware manufacturers to pay attention and play nice
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[09:14] <variant> Geoffrey2: it is mainstream lol
[09:14] <czer323> Geoffrey2, yeah, i'm going to work on something for free... for a reaaaaaly long time, and i don't want anyone to care.
[09:14] <holycow> rylasasin, i don't think so, its not exclusionary
[09:14] <Shadowpillar> to be fair I've never noticed any speed differences between 386 binaries and 686 optimized binaries
[09:15] <djuussGUIroot> ok whatever, geeks
[09:15] <Shadowpillar> 64 bit is where you'll notice some change
[09:15] <holycow> rylasasin, the idea of something being 'easy' to use is usually based on some pretty bad assumptions
[09:15] <djuussGUIroot> i'm re-installing
[09:15] <variant> Shadowpillar: yeah, 0.5% difference if that :P
[09:15] <unfknblvbl> djuussGUIroot: ty
[09:15] <avagant_> You can't really do much with lynx though.
[09:15] <tk> variant: hub is detected
[09:15] <czer323> i agree with variant, Linux is trying to become mainstream.
[09:15] <Shadowpillar> variant: what? with 64 bit?
[09:15] <holycow> like for example the expectation tha ta user should be able to administer a system without actually understanding the consequences of their actions
[09:15] <jldugger> "Linux" isnt trying to do anything
[09:15] <variant> czer323: it is mainstream ffs lol
[09:15] <djuussGUIroot> and honestly, windows and linux both have a steep learning curve, just with windows theres not much to learn
[09:15] <holycow> what jldugger said
[09:15] <Shadowpillar> variant: or 586/686 optimization
[09:15] <tk> variant: pasted the 3 lines in /msg to you
[09:15] <eclipse75> linux is just linux
[09:15] <holycow> djuussGUIroot, thats not true actually
[09:15] <eclipse75> it isnt trying anything
[09:15] <rylasasin> in what contry varients
[09:16] <holycow> windows has been around for so long everyone has 'memorized th eui
[09:16] <rylasasin> *cariant
[09:16] <jldugger> Ubuntu may be, GNOME & KDE might be
[09:16] <variant> Shadowpillar: yeah you might see a reduction in performance for some apps on 64bit'
[09:16] <unfknblvbl> djuussGUIroot: it failed
[09:16] <holycow> thats really waht it is
[09:16] <czer323> variant> it's just well known.  that doesnt' mean mainstream for desktop users.  I do wonder what the number of actual desktop users is for linux.
[09:16] <eclipse75> its just a project of thousands of computer enthusiasts
[09:16] <czer323> I know that mac is like 5-6% of all computer users.
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[09:16] <holycow> linux is no harder, its just that people haveto 'remember a whole ton of new stuff' and thats hard work
[09:16] <mjr> variant, not too likely with x86(_64)
[09:16] <unfknblvbl> djuussGUIroot: hang on i'll try somethnig else first
[09:16] <variant> hey lets all go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:16] <holycow> anyway what is this 'typical desktop user' this 'mainstream' people talk about
[09:16] <holycow> i don't think ther eis such a thing
[09:16] <jldugger> holycow, even for a lot of people, the only thing they have to remember is their password and how to use firefox
[09:17] <czer323> mvoing to offtopic
[09:17] <eclipse75> linux is healthier though. due to more power to the user and better features ;)
[09:17] <rylasasin> and if you DO make it mainstream... eh maybe america isn't the best place to start
[09:17] <holycow> i think there are a whole ton of niches that that can be chopped into
[09:17] <djuussGUIroot> like i said, a distro like ubuntu/suse/mandriva is just as hard to learn as windows, its just that everyone already knows windows
[09:17] <holycow> jldugger, which begs the question, which part of that is hard on linux?
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[09:17] <Geoffrey2> czer323, I think the question is "Can you make Linux an operating system that a majority of the computer users out there would use, without losing what makes Linux...Linux?"
[09:17] <variant> tk: do you have usbview installed?
[09:17] <Healot> hardware driver for some fancy hardwares
[09:17] <tk> variant: not that I know of, let me check
[09:17] <czer323> Geoffrey2, Define linux then... In the offtopic room ;)
[09:17] <Healot> like wifi, camera, 3d accelerators etc
[09:17] <holycow> Geoffrey2, my answer to that is its already here
[09:17] <holycow> BUT
[09:18] <Healot> that the main issues atm
[09:18] <variant> tk: lsusb too'
[09:18] <avagant_> It's funny that lynx doesn't like google.
[09:18] <eclipse75> but for learning linux to its extent, ubuntu or mandriva or suse are not distros of choice (in my oppinion)
[09:18] <avagant_> Or maybe it's the other way around.
[09:18] <jldugger> holycow, the part where you cant install gstreamer-plugins for firefox because someone uploaded it dependent on -ubuntu4 when only -ubuntu1 is available =)
[09:18] <variant> avagant_: works here
[09:18] <tk> lsusb, I have, just installed usbview
[09:18] <djuussGUIroot> Healot: My webcam doesnt work on windows, it works on ubuntu out of the box
[09:18] <variant> avagant_: trye links and links2 also
[09:18] <Shadowpillar> personally, I dont see linux as ever hitting mainstream, it'll be a niche market, or it'll be in things people use and they won't know or care, it is changing the world, but not in a direct manner like microsoft has, microsoft did do one good thing, and that was spreading the adoption of affordable home PCs which boomed many good technologies. Despite all the shit that came with it. (monopolies, antitrust, etc)
[09:18] <Shadowpillar> otherwise, fuck them.
[09:18] <holycow> jldugger, what does a regular user have business administering their own system without understanding or having the skill to do so?
[09:18] <Healot> djuussGUIroot, you disgust me :)
[09:18] <avagant_> it says my client has issues with something or other.
[09:18] <unfknblvbl> djuussGUIroot: i just richt clicked the ISO image, and slected write to dvd lol
[09:18] <holycow> that is really the issue with windows
[09:18] <Geoffrey2> lesse, I just installed mplayer, anyone know where I need to go looking for it, since it's not in the application menu?
[09:18] <tk> variant: ok, have usbview open now
[09:18] <holycow> its not that windows is terrible
[09:18] <phrizer> djuussGUIroot, My webcam works on windows, but can't get it running with linux ;/
[09:18] <unfknblvbl> i wasn't expecting it to be that easy stupid easy ubuntu
[09:19] <holycow> its that microsoft tells people or lets them assume that they can be a user AND a sysadmin
[09:19] <Shadowpillar> linux makes a great alternative when windows isnt enough
[09:19] <variant> tk: does it list the hub attached devices?'
[09:19] <holycow> wihtout having to know a single thing
[09:19] <holycow> i don't see a problem there
[09:19] <eclipse75> linux is a project, an alternative. it wasnt meant to be huge anyways
[09:19] <eclipse75> and if the market dies out on linux. linux will never die
[09:19] <variant> hey, #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC
[09:19] <holycow> eclipse75, i think that is incredibly important to remember
[09:19] <cpk2> Geoffrey2: to play something you can just do mplayer /my/file/is/here.(someformat)
[09:19] <Shadowpillar> phrizer: any info?
[09:19] <variant> hey, #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC
[09:19] <variant> hey, #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC
[09:19] <jldugger> holycow, i realize you're an admin at work, but what should people at home do? hire someone to fix their computer daily?
[09:19] <tk> variant: yah, the comp sees the hub, I just have to run hhid --search to reconnect everything if I unplug it
[09:19] <djuussGUIroot> no i swear, its a logitech cheap thingy. Now, logitech made a new webcam, and gave it the same name. So now there are no more drivers anywhere for this old thing, exept on the cd which i lost. But on ubuntu it works right away
[09:19] <holycow> eclipse75, it never will indeed, i agree with you totally
[09:19] <cpk2> !offtopic
[09:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:19] <Shadowpillar> phrizer: make, etc
[09:19] <rylasasin> lol no one wants to go to offtopic cause you forget the debate
[09:20] <variant> tk: so running hhid --search fixes it?
[09:20] <Shadowpillar> eh forget this
[09:20] <Shadowpillar> I'm tired
[09:20] <unfknblvbl> cpk2: its actually random chatter ABOUT ubuntu not just random chatter
[09:20] <holycow> jldugger, i understand your question, i understand that what you are sayhing is 'why can't everyone just make hardware and software that just works'
[09:20] <djuussGUIroot> and im re-installing
[09:20] <holycow> jldugger, i totally agree with that
[09:20] <tk> variant: yes, that and clicking the connect button on all 3 of my devices
[09:20] <variant> holycow: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:20] <holycow> jldugger, the problem is that none of this stuff really works really well, either here or on windows
[09:20] <phrizer> Shadowpillar, how idea, some cheap asian thing for like $5. Would have to plug it in again to see any information. It stowed away somewhere in a cupboard.
[09:20] <eclipse75> bleh just too much gossip from people about the entire linux commercial issue
[09:20] <phrizer> s/how/No
[09:20] <cpk2> unfknblvbl: isnt ubuntu-offtopic for ubuntu random chatter? =P
[09:20] <variant> tk: you could add that command to the udev rules for that device.. let me see if i can find out how
[09:20] <tk> variant: it before I got this hub, the Logitech one would work as soon as I plugged it in...
[09:20] <holycow> jldugger, its why mac is a closed platform.  if you want to sysadmin, you need to have some knowledge
[09:20] <jldugger> holycow, maybe thats why over half of my LUG group owns a powerbook =(
[09:21] <tk> now even the logitech doesnt do it
[09:21] <docgnome> Hrm. Does anyone know of a good cups tutorial for setting up printer sharing?
[09:21] <eclipse75> ... never try to email a 400mb file
[09:21] <variant> tk: annoying!
[09:21] <unfknblvbl> cpk2: i was talking about stuff too random in ubuntu-offtopic i was told to move to off-topic
[09:21] <holycow> jldugger, maybe, i think thats just eleetism, i've lost my respect for apple a while ago
[09:21] <unfknblvbl> cpk2: it was an op who told me to move >.<
[09:21] <cpk2> unfknblvbl: ahahahaaha
[09:21] <myesterious> I got "permission denied" when build and run c++ src on Codeblocks, Can anyone help me ?
[09:21] <cpk2> thats awesome
[09:21] <holycow> maybe its that they are now just another intel case maker
[09:21] <tk> variant: yup :) especially the pushing the connect and then running hhid --search for the devices :)
[09:21] <djuussGUIroot> Abort/Retry/Ignore?
[09:21] <variant> tk: do you have to do both?'
[09:21] <jldugger> holycow, i donno. one guy even runs osx on his non mac laptop =(
[09:22] <variant> tk: you can't just run the command, you have to press connect also?
[09:22] <tk> variant: hhid wont see the devices if I dont click their buttons (on the device)
[09:22] <variant> tk: hmm, not much udev can do about that :/
[09:22] <djuussGUIroot> i'm gonna buy a iMac G5
[09:22] <djuussGUIroot> theyre so pretty
[09:22] <hoelk> jldugger: i know a girl that uses some weird windows pimping software to make her xp look like macosx
[09:22] <hoelk> ;)
[09:22] <holycow> jldugger, i really don't think it gets any easier than ubuntu.  you don't loose the 'properness' of a security model, and these guys brought th euser as close to sys admin as you will ever get them without knowing how to do much
[09:22] <tk> variant: hmmm but it worked before... (w/o doing it?)
[09:22] <variant> djuussGUIroot: i am using an ibook g4, it sucks (looks pretty though :))
[09:23] <halex-ab> bah, mac people in the ubuntu channel - get out I say..! lol
[09:23] <halex-ab> ;)
[09:23] <holycow> jldugger, expecting apt to get any easier ... i donno.  i have users click and install software at home on a few boxes i helped install.  if it borks they don't really blink, mostly it just installs.
[09:23] <djuussGUIroot> dude i'd get an ibook g4, and only use it to feed music into my stereo, just for looks
[09:23] <variant> tk: yeah.. odd. have you upgraded or altered any software between working and not working?
[09:23] <jldugger> holycow, i think automated testing should be capable of catching bugs like "totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin not installable"
[09:23] <djuussGUIroot> its awesome, until you actually need to get some work done
[09:23] <holycow> we are missing a few guis for things like monitor selection, dual moni setup, cups advanced config (wihtout going via http ui), that kinda thing sure
[09:23] <tk> variant: only thing I've done was tried installing some other bluetooth software to try and fix it after it stopped working
[09:24] <eclipse75> bleh mac is over rated
[09:24] <eclipse75> way over rated
[09:24] <djuussGUIroot> good looking tho, thats what counts
[09:24] <eclipse75> lol
[09:24] <holycow> jldugger, well its getting there.  mark is gracious enough to spend wads of cash up front.  now we haveto start figuring out how to get this stuff to pay for it self with cash going the other way
[09:24] <variant> tk: I am sorry but I dont think i can help fix this :(
[09:24] <holycow> as soon as that starts to happen you will see a lot more of that sort of thing happening
[09:24] <jldugger> holycow, isnt that up to canonical?
[09:24] <eclipse75> yeah just buy the case to one and do a little shin diggin on there thur piece
[09:24] <variant> tk: try slapping it against the wall, that sometimes works '
[09:25] <variant> tk: :)
[09:25] <holycow> jldugger, why should it only be canonical?
[09:25] <holycow> why can't you or i help?
[09:25] <djuussGUIroot> ill get a g5 and slap some really ugly linux on it
[09:25] <holycow> this isn't a charity, at least thats how i look at it
[09:25] <jldugger> well, i guess i meant, canonical is working on it
[09:25] <docgnome> I'm looking for a cups tutorial for setting up printer sharing anyone know of a good one?
[09:25] <jldugger> but you kinda made it sound like "mark gave us some money, now we're on our own"
[09:26] <holycow> jldugger, sure, but can you really complain? i think they are doing a great job.  this is one hugass project, i'm more than willing to cut someone slack for spending their own money doing this
[09:26] <docgnome> I've poked around google and can't seem to find anything that works
[09:26] <nysosym> can anyone help me please to find these icon?
[09:26] <nysosym> http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotnysosymfilebrowserrp4.png
[09:26] <variant> docgnome: http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-doc.html
[09:26] <holycow> jldugger, thats my attitude sure
[09:26] <holycow> when was the last time youve seen any open source project get money, let alone scads for years?
[09:26] <jldugger> GNU?
[09:26] <djuussGUIroot> G5 would look really good with a GUI that uses *excessive* transparancy effects and a background image of whats behind the monitor, with a really trimmed gui
[09:27] <jldugger> or maybe blender ;)
[09:27] <holycow> jldugger, lol, not a great example
[09:27] <holycow> also NOT  great example, considering they went broke and barely managed to buy out code on a one time basis
[09:27] <holycow> mozilla managed to wrangle up that google deal but thats the exception not the rule
[09:27] <djuussGUIroot> ok im off
[09:27] <variant> JDStone: I donated 50 euro to a free software project a few weeks ago
[09:27] <holycow> variant, :) sweet
[09:28] <variant> holycow: I donated 50 euro to a free software project a few weeks ago
[09:28] <variant> wrong nick
[09:28] <holycow> i pay regularly for development on various open source application servers
[09:28] <jldugger> heh, how about any of the people orcale bought recently? ;)
[09:28] <tk_> ugh
[09:28] <holycow> not us thats for sure :)
[09:28] <variant> tk: any luck?
[09:29] <tk> variant: last I saw was me saying I had only tried swapping hubs
[09:29] <jldugger> reiser apparently makes good money selling non-gpl liscences
[09:29] <jldugger> im not sure how that works in the kernel
[09:29] <holycow> hans seems to think he is always in debt
[09:29] <cmatheson> i've read that ekiga can talk to windows users running netmeeting or msn messenger... how does one do that?  does msn messenger support SIP?
[09:29] <holycow> although he has bigger problems these days, being his wife is missing under dubious circumstances :/
[09:29] <swashbucklinstev> Flash on AMD64?
[09:30] <jldugger> swashbucklinstev, hope you like chroot
[09:30] <holycow> cmatheson, netmeeting runs over some open source protocol ... h.2342234x something like that
[09:30] <swashbucklinstev> jldugger: oh :-(
[09:30] <mjr> cmatheson, netmeeting at least supports h323, though you need a codec pack to be compatible with ekiga. dunno about messenger, some claims about sip support, practice unclear
[09:30] <holycow> they just implemented it, thus you can talk to netmeeting people
[09:30] <Healot> linux32+firefox 32-bit and flash
[09:30] <jldugger> swashbucklinstev, they dont provide 64bit binaries
[09:31] <variant> hans reiser's wife is missing, presumed dead
[09:31] <eclipse75> swiftfox :D
[09:31] <tk> variant: worse case.... I know how to fix it by hand now :) which is a step ahead :)
[09:31] <holycow> th4ere is no 64 bit for windows either btw
[09:31] <swashbucklinstev> jldugger: libflash is worthless too :-S
[09:31] <sc0tt> hey folks.
[09:31] <holycow> variant, :/ indeed
[09:31] <variant> tk: what did youd o to fix it?
[09:31] <sc0tt> whats the correct method of configuring alsa with bunutu?
[09:31] <swashbucklinstev> holycow: when did that happen?
[09:31] <variant> sc0tt: it should be pre confiigured
[09:31] <holycow> about a month or so ago
[09:31] <sc0tt> its not :>
[09:31] <swashbucklinstev> eesh
[09:31] <tk> variant: possible solution would be to force a connection to the address of the specific device.... (current by hand is connecting the dvices with hhid and clicking their find me buttons)
[09:31] <sc0tt> sound is configured, but wrongly
[09:32] <cmatheson> holycow: mjr: so basically nothing on windows works out of the box?  is there an open-source client or something i could recommend my friends so that they stop bugging me about using msn messenger?
[09:32] <sc0tt> clear
[09:32] <sc0tt> oopsy :P
[09:32] <crimsun> sc0tt: how is it wrongly configured?
[09:32] <variant> cmatheson: amsn is very good, gaim also but not as "easy to use"
[09:32] <sc0tt> crimsun, I have a 5.1 card, which i was going to configure to use all channels to play stereo sound
[09:32] <ariitaia> eure ma
[09:32] <sc0tt> by doing this:
[09:32] <sc0tt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317
[09:33] <holycow> cmatheson, depends what you want.  video conferencing?
[09:33] <holycow> or just chat?
[09:33] <variant> sc0tt: creative sound blaster?
[09:33] <cmatheson> variant: er, sorry, i'm looking for something that would support the webcam
[09:33] <cmatheson> holycow: yeah
[09:33] <sc0tt> yes
[09:33] <holycow> if chat you could just use gaim to talk to anything
[09:33] <crimsun> ScottK: don't create an asoundrc unless you /must/
[09:33] <sc0tt> well, i must :P
[09:33] <sc0tt> I want my other channels playing music :>
[09:33] <avagant_> !mrxvc
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mrxvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <avagant_> !mrxvt
[09:33] <variant> sc0tt: creative cards are crappy, contrary to popular belife there is much better open source support for other manufacturers
[09:33] <crimsun> ScottK: with most current cards, you can access the 5.1 functionality by using plug:surround51
[09:33] <ubotu> mrxvt: lightweight multi-tabbed X terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 118 kB, installed size 324 kB
[09:34] <ariitaia> when the last ubuntu 6.10 edgy will come ?
[09:34] <sc0tt> I don't plan on changing the card
[09:34] <halex-ab> ariitaia, some time this month..
[09:34] <halex-ab> hopefully
[09:34] <variant> sc0tt: thats not really an alsa setup problem, you can do it with other programs.. (i'm just trying to remember the name of one in particular)
[09:34] <sc0tt> I was just wondering why ubuntu doesn't have alsaconf :>
[09:34] <ariitaia> yes hopefully
[09:34] <variant> sc0tt: ME TOO!
[09:34] <crimsun> ScottK: sorry
[09:34] <MistaED> variant: from what i've used of amsn, it is far from good ;)
[09:34] <crimsun> sc0tt: those statements were intended for you.
[09:34] <variant> sc0tt: alsaconf is so fabulous.. i cant get over the fact that its not included
[09:34] <tk> variant: err found it :) forcing the hub to contact an addy will make them handshake :)
[09:35] <sc0tt> gaim's the best!
[09:35] <crimsun> variant: / sc0tt: it's not needed for pci devices
[09:35] <sc0tt> yeah crimsun, i was like
[09:35] <sc0tt> wtf!
[09:35] <variant> MistaED: well, its most simmilar to msn althought he interface is ugly it is very usable
[09:35] <MistaED> gaim is stable but lacks buzz, it has no webcam support and it's 2006
[09:35] <sc0tt> also, if i use xmms for example
[09:35] <tk> variant: so... with Udev could I do that?
[09:35] <sc0tt> and select the alsa plugin
[09:35] <sc0tt> it doesn't work :/
[09:35] <variant> tk: awsome. should be able to
[09:35] <MistaED> variant: apart from that, amsn crashes all the time for me
[09:35] <crimsun> sc0tt: did you change the default device for alsa in xmms's preferences to 'default'?
[09:36] <variant> MistaED: i dont realy use it any more but it never crashed for me
[09:36] <sc0tt> yes
[09:36] <sc0tt> just out of curiosity
[09:36] <crimsun> sc0tt: and you disabled esd in System> Preferences> Sound> [Disable]  software sound mixing ?
[09:36] <sc0tt> should /proc/asounds/cards
[09:36] <sc0tt> have my card in it?
[09:36] <crimsun> sc0tt: if the driver is loaded, yes.
[09:36] <variant> tk: for your own reference, this is what i am looking at: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[09:36] <nacer> hi
[09:37] <nacer> my ubuntu have do somethink wird
[09:37] <sc0tt> oo /proc/asounds/cards doesn't exist :O
[09:37] <tk> variant: yah I was jus tlooking at the man page :) that might be more useful though :D
[09:37] <nacer> he give me root shell
[09:37] <crimsun> sc0tt: well, is the proper driver even loaded?
[09:37] <Geoffrey2> hmmm, interesting....the same videos that were unviewable in totem-xine look fine in mplayer...obviously I'll just use mplayer, but I wonder why totem-xine won't work for me
[09:37] <sc0tt> i'm starting to think not
[09:37] <nacer> because he detect theyre is not so much process running
[09:37] <nacer> the problem is i have a lot of process running
[09:37] <sc0tt> btw, ESD was working alright
[09:37] <crimsun> sc0tt: it's /proc/asound/cards, not /proc/asounds/cards
[09:37] <variant> tk: it has a sections "running external programs upon certain events" i think its exactly waht your looking for'
[09:38] <holycow> Geoffrey2, no w32codecs?
[09:38] <sc0tt> root@starlet:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:38] <sc0tt> 0 [SAA7134        ] : SAA7134 - SAA7134
[09:38] <sc0tt>                      saa7130[0]  at 0xe2000000 irq 5
[09:38] <sc0tt> 1 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA0106
[09:38] <sc0tt>                      AudigyLS [SB0310]  at 0xd400 irq 11
[09:38] <variant> tk: have it send you an email if somone plugs in an unknown usb key :P
[09:38] <crimsun> sc0tt: no, it's loaded just fine.
[09:38] <sc0tt> interesting
[09:38] <Geoffrey2> holycow, supposedly they're installed
[09:38] <crimsun> sc0tt: you have a "24-bit" sb live, which is, unfortunately, a piece of crap
[09:38] <tk> variant: hehe, thanks, I'm looking at that now :)
[09:38] <holycow> some codecs just aren't supported :/
[09:38] <holycow> depends\
[09:38] <docgnome> variant: My config is exactly as they say should work. Or it looks like it is anyway, and it doesn't work.
[09:39] <variant> docgnome: what was your problem again?
[09:39] <variant> docgnome: the printers? sorry but I am no expert..
[09:39] <holycow> there are thousands of file formats * 10's of thousands of compression schemes * 100's of thousands of settings
[09:39] <docgnome> variant: setting up printer shairng with cups
[09:39] <holycow> a lot can go wrong :)
[09:39] <variant> docgnome: only had a printer once and it worked out of the box :)
[09:39] <willys_fueguino> a question:  on ubuntu exists a keymap called en_km???
[09:39] <crimsun> sc0tt: for instance, that 24-bit sb live does not support pcm multiopen natively in hardware, so you can't play multiple sounds at once. You have to rely on dmix (which is enabled by default for the ca0106 driver).
[09:39] <docgnome> variant: Oh aye. It works alright. I just can't seem to be able to share it.
[09:39] <variant> willys_fueguino: what country is it?
[09:40] <crimsun> sc0tt: (i.e., the 24-bit/7.1 sb live is a very crippled version of the normal sb live)
[09:40] <willys_fueguino> variant, actually, is a spanish 105 keys keyboard...
[09:40] <tk> variant: now to figure it all out :) never used udev before
[09:40] <variant> docgnome: hmm, if you followed the tutorial then there is not much i can do. find a cups network printing troubleshooting link
[09:40] <sc0tt> interesting
[09:40] <variant> tk: its cool as hell
[09:40] <variant> willys_fueguino: ah, spanish is ssupported.. is that what your looking for?
[09:41] <variant> I'm off to bed for an hour.. later all!
[09:41] <tk> variant: nto familiar with any of that stuff though :P sysfs etal
[09:41] <willys_fueguino> variant, im looking for a keymap wich ends with _km its for the lkl keylogger
[09:41] <holycow> cya
[09:41] <holycow> :)
[09:41] <tk> ahh usbview works instead
[09:41] <tk> hehe
[09:41] <Geoffrey2> holycow, well, I'm having problems with both .wmv and .mov......two rather commonly used formats, as far as I know
[09:42] <holycow> and both proprietary
[09:42] <holycow> neither are documented, both are reverse engineered so
[09:42] <sc0tt> crimsun, speaker-test fails always too
[09:42] <holycow> .wmv has okay support ... w32codecs seems to just bring over the dll
[09:42] <sc0tt> that a bad sign? :>
[09:42] <crimsun> sc0tt: no
[09:42] <holycow> and try to use that to playback that format ... same for .mov
[09:43] <crimsun> sc0tt: what syntax are you using?
[09:43] <willys_fueguino> oh I found it, but's only on english, french and and italian...
[09:43] <holycow> thats in totem-xine
[09:43] <tk> variant: am I correct in assuming that the configure path in usbview is the path I need for udev?
[09:43] <Geoffrey2> holycow, well, the reality is most of the formats in wide use right now are proprietary...maybe that will change in time, but so far that doesn't seem to be happening
[09:43] <sc0tt> speaker-test -c6 -Dplug:surround51
[09:43] <sc0tt> brb
[09:44] <osfameron> if my Dapper laptop is failing to hibernate, sometimes with a popup saying something like "HAL, failed to hibernate", how do I go about debugging this?
[09:45] <osfameron> ah. there are some hdc: and ide: errors during the hibernate attempt
[09:46] <berent> whats meant by ekiga in ekiga software
[09:46] <osfameron> any suggestions?
[09:47] <sc0tt> weee
[09:47] <tk> hmmm need food
[09:47] <crimsun> sc0tt: that tells speaker-test to try and use the first card, which isn't what you want. You either need to use plug:surround51:1, or use an index mask for saa7134-alsa.
[09:47] <matti> Morning.
[09:47] <sc0tt> ah
[09:47] <sc0tt> okay!
[09:47] <crimsun> sc0tt: I recommend the latter; it's less error-prone.
[09:48] <crimsun> sc0tt: e.g., echo options saa7134-alsa index=-2 |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/saa7134-alsa
[09:48] <sc0tt> hey that worked :>
[09:49] <sc0tt> thing is
[09:49] <sc0tt> 0 [SAA7134        ] : SAA7134 - SAA7134
[09:49] <sc0tt>                      saa7130[0]  at 0xe2000000 irq 5
[09:49] <sc0tt> 1 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA0106
[09:49] <sc0tt>                      AudigyLS [SB0310]  at 0xd400 irq 11
[09:49] <sc0tt> whats the first card?
[09:49] <crimsun> the one with index 0.
[09:49] <sc0tt> because onboard sound is disabled in the bios
[09:49] <swashbucklinstev> jldugger: hm, this is for breezy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90106 - how long ago was Breezy? Should I expect much difference?
[09:49] <sc0tt> no no
[09:49] <sc0tt> literally
[09:49] <sc0tt> what is that carad
[09:49] <sc0tt> card*
[09:49] <crimsun> i.e., your tv capture card.
[09:49] <sc0tt> it shouldn't be there
[09:49] <holy_cow> damnit
[09:49] <sc0tt> lol
[09:50] <sc0tt> oh
[09:50] <sc0tt> ya
[09:50] <sc0tt> it is
[09:50] <holy_cow> i wason a good proprietary codec schpeal :)
[09:50] <sc0tt> :D
[09:50] <JakeConnor> installing an os on a raid 1 is ok right?
[09:50] <berent> Ekiga softphone on dapper - which language it is taken
[09:50] <holycow> JakeConnor, sure.  raid 1 is great
[09:50] <sc0tt> crimsun, is it possible to set the creative card to be default for everything?
[09:50] <fredl> hi guys. Anybody know if it's possible to send faxes to an HP Photosmart printer that's connected to the network?
[09:51] <crimsun> see the echo line I gave you above
[09:51] <holycow> JakeConnor, you just gotta makesure the raid card is supported, if its not you will be up to your armspits in hackery
[09:51] <sc0tt> echo options saa7134-alsa index=-2 |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/saa7134-alsa
[09:51] <sc0tt> that one crimson?
[09:51] <crimsun> sc0tt: yes.
[09:51] <JakeConnor> holycow: my motherboard has built in raid support
[09:51] <crimsun> I'm away for a meeting
[09:51] <swashbucklinstev> armpit hackery, hm, that's risc'y
[09:51] <JakeConnor> does it still matter?
[09:51] <sc0tt> okies
[09:51] <holycow> JakeConnor, its software support, fake raid
[09:51] <holycow> JakeConnor, most of those are not supported under linux actually
[09:51] <swashbucklinstev> Get it?!
[09:52] <swashbucklinstev> HARHARHAR!
[09:52] <willys_fueguino> someone uses the lkl keylogger??
[09:52] <JakeConnor> ooooo
[09:52] <holycow> JakeConnor, you are better off setting up software raid 1 natively in linux with just two regular ide/sata drives
[09:52] <swashbucklinstev> Ok, you don't get it, I can forgive that.
[09:52] <igorzolnikov> Hi! How can i set proxy for terminal?
[09:52] <holycow> swashbucklinstev, oh
[09:52] <holycow> hehehe :)
[09:52] <holycow> wow, i am clever :)
[09:52] <swashbucklinstev> holycow: is that more overhead than hardware raid?
[09:53] <JakeConnor> holycow: what do you mean natively on linux? how does that make sense?
[09:53] <mjr> JakeConnor, holycow is right, just use linux swraid, you'll be happier for it
[09:53] <JakeConnor> oh, i was thinking of making it a raid and install 3 different operating systems on it
[09:53] <holycow> swashbucklinstev, not really, cpu does the work but its not a huge issue for the average cpu these days.  it hasn't been for a long time, unless you are doing something like setting up a productio nserver
[09:53] <holycow> in which case you probably wouldn't be considering an onboard mobo raid anyway :)
[09:53] <JakeConnor> if i do it linux natively i don't t think i can do that right?
[09:54] <holycow> JakeConnor, well it makes sense like this:
[09:54] <holycow> if linux has the driver = particular raid configuration is support
[09:54] <holycow> if linux does not have the driver - particular raid is not supported
[09:54] <holycow> pretty simple right?
[09:54] <swashbucklinstev> holycow: makes sense then, especially since I'm a person who believes in garbage collected languages, i can definitely sympathize with the notion of sw raid
[09:54] <fateisajester> !find doom
[09:54] <ubotu> Found: freedoom, kdoomsday, lxdoom, lxdoom-sndserv, lxdoom-svga (and 6 others)
[09:54] <JakeConnor> i think so
[09:55] <holycow> swashbucklinstev, *nod*
[09:55] <swashbucklinstev> How old is breezy?
[09:55] <holycow> according to reports, sw can outperform hardware raid infact
[09:55] <igorzolnikov> Hi! How can i set proxy for terminal?
[09:55] <swashbucklinstev> figures, doesn't it
[09:56] <holycow> but ... you knokw at the end of the day, i'm happy to blame a piece of hardware for failure rather than debug software issues in production :)
[09:56] <JakeConnor> damn i was kinda excited for no reason then
[09:56] <holycow> JakeConnor, welcome to the windows world
[09:56] <holycow> where they sell you crap and tell you its actually good
[09:56] <holycow> the mobo raid you are seeing is roughly equivalent to the winmodems on mobos
[09:56] <holycow> sheer crap
[09:57] <holycow> hardware manufacturers are basically trying to give users features by cutting corners instead of designing it right and assigning a premium to the hardware
[09:57] <fredl> *ugh* isn't the version of hplip in Dapper kinda... "old" ?
[09:58] <willys_fueguino> someone can recomend me a keylogger to spy amsn conversations on localhost??
[09:58] <swashbucklinstev> their logic is that price point affects profit
[09:59] <holycow> yep, and appearently windows users really really don't care how the stuff works
[09:59] <holycow> so yeah
[09:59] <holycow> can't say i blame them ... only so many hours in a day :)
[10:00] <swashbucklinstev> speaking of not caring how the stuff works, THIS LAPTOP WORKS! And I don't care to know how the Ubuntu magi did it, but I am grateful. Gentoo AMD64 doesn't make for a good halfweek project. Installing Ubuntu AMD64 in under an hour does make for a really good day project though :-D
[10:01] <holycow> swashbucklinstev, cool :)
[10:01] <totall_6_7> holycow: 98% of computer users do not want to know how the thing works, they want it to be like a vcr or dvd player, put in the tape/disk and watch the movie
[10:01] <swashbucklinstev> And I feel good about handing this laptop off to its real owner now, my sister.
[10:01] <holycow> so your running all 64 bit apps? how is it?
[10:01] <holycow> i should try it and see where that whole thing is these days
[10:02] <holycow> totall_6_7, yeah i found that out a couple of weeks ago
[10:02] <holycow> i had 100% conversion rates until i ran into this dude
[10:02] <holycow> he wants the computer to be a toaster
[10:02] <totall_6_7> yup
[10:02] <holycow> yet he wants it to do more than 1 thing, he wants it to do very complicated things SIMPLY
[10:02] <holycow> lol
[10:02] <holycow> so i'm getting him a mac
[10:02] <holycow> >_>
[10:02] <totall_6_7> LOL
[10:02] <swashbucklinstev> holycow: pretty impressive, atleast I think I'm running all 64bit apps. I definitely feel a marked improvement over the Windows install (non 64) that was on it originally. HP doesn't sell their computers with 64bit OSs despite having processors for it. Ugh.
[10:03] <xorl> anyone here use qingy with ubuntu?
[10:03] <holycow> swashbucklinstev, i've given up on manufacturers *nod* i understand why they do what they do, but i'm gratefull to have the skill and knkowledge to have an option
[10:03] <swashbucklinstev> holycow: the only thing that has me bent is the Flash player and I'm about to take that on, I found a guide from breezy days that should have it running in 32bit atleast
[10:04] <holycow> users unfotunately don't have a very good mental map of what they want or need  or how to categorize stuff.  they cannot imagine that what they want is actually complicated and requires skill ... i don't know how to get over that one
[10:04] <swashbucklinstev> it requirs running 32bit firefox, not too happy about that, oh well though
[10:04] <igorzolnikov> Hi! How can i set proxy for terminal.
[10:04] <holycow> well as you know there is no 64 bit flash player for anything ... appearently you can chroot the 32 bit one tho but i'm betting thats dodgy
[10:04] <jhawk> has anyone heard of a solution to broken fglrx drivers in edgy
[10:05] <holycow> jhawk, actually yes
[10:05] <swashbucklinstev> holycow: this is non-chroot, would you like the URL?
[10:05] <StAfZe6> Hi
[10:05] <str47> sup
[10:05] <holycow> its the same solution for all development debian like releases
[10:05] <willys_fueguino> someone can recomend me a keylogger to spy amsn conversations on localhost??
[10:05] <jhawk> yes
[10:05] <holycow> wait and dist upgrade regularly
[10:05] <holycow> i'm not kidding actually
[10:05] <holycow> swashbucklinstev, not really, i'll dig it up when i get to it :)
[10:05] <holycow> but thanks!
[10:05] <swashbucklinstev> k ;-)
[10:05] <sc0tt> rawr
[10:05] <sc0tt> creative card is default now :>
[10:06] <holycow> willys_fueguino, i don't know bro, just so that someone answers :)
[10:06] <sc0tt> now to get stereo to repeat over the other four speakers :P
[10:06] <sc0tt> btw, doesn't ubuntu use .xinitrc?
[10:06] <davin> Hi, is there like a command for apt-get to search for packages (like Synaptic can) from the command line? I was thinking about this and I cant find anything in 'man apt-get'..
[10:06] <swashbucklinstev> willys_fueguino: I'd recommend a packet sniffer, google it
[10:06] <holycow> apt-cache search packagename
[10:06] <holycow> there you go
[10:07] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, I have ethereal...
[10:07] <holycow> with  a packet sniffer you can grab their entire network session
[10:07] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, But i dont know hot to make it work to see amsn conversations only
[10:07] <holycow> i think there is a hack to use vnc to capture their x session too ... donno
[10:08] <willys_fueguino> and to see the messages in another way than hex ;-)
[10:08] <swashbucklinstev> willys_fueguino: did you search already for etherreal and msn related pages?
[10:08] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, I readed some pages about filters and that if thats what you mean...
[10:09] <swashbucklinstev> willys_fueguino: another way to do it would be convince the user to use gaim and then set beagle up to take in all conversations
[10:09] <willys_fueguino> but a friend recommend me to use a keylogger for what I want to use, since they're more "organized"
[10:09] <swashbucklinstev> willys_fueguino: yeah, there aren't any filters for MSN yet?
[10:09] <swashbucklinstev> sketchy friend ;-)
[10:10] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, hell yeah!! but I want to see only what keys the user is pressing...
[10:10] <holycow>  apt-cache search keyboard logger
[10:10] <holycow> 3.
[10:10] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, xDDD
[10:10] <holycow> lol
[10:10] <holycow> there you go
[10:10] <mart> Ive tried searching on google, but cant find a way to set apps as the default
[10:10] <holycow> *cough*
[10:11] <mart> at the moment movies open in mplayer 32bit... but i a very bad picture
[10:11] <holycow> brilliant right in the repo
[10:11] <holycow> wasn't so hard, now was it?
[10:11] <holycow> :)
[10:11] <willys_fueguino> holycow, xDDD I'll try... I tried with "keylogger" but only 1 result..
[10:11] <mart> would like it set to open mplayer 64bit
[10:11] <swashbucklinstev> holycow: hah! what are the chances
[10:11] <holycow> swashbucklinstev, with debian, pertty damned good actually
[10:12] <holycow> i've stopped asking questions or googling before searching repos actually
[10:12] <swashbucklinstev> heh
[10:12] <willys_fueguino> holycow, lkl - userspace keylogger for x86 architecture
[10:12] <holycow> willys_fueguino, that lkl app probably logs everythikng to a text file, it should work great
[10:12] <willys_fueguino> thats the only one and I already have it
[10:12] <holycow> so whats the problem?
[10:13] <willys_fueguino> holycow, I'll let you see just 1 line of the log...
[10:13] <holycow> k :)
[10:13] <swashbucklinstev> I wonder if it's keycodes :-P
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[10:13] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, I think so
[10:13] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[10:13] <holycow> ha!
[10:14] <holycow> there must be a switch to just show ascii only
[10:14] <Overand> neat
[10:14] <willys_fueguino> now... what the hell does that mean!!
[10:14] <willys_fueguino> xDDD
[10:14] <swashbucklinstev> yeah, you could translate it very quickly using a perl one liner I'm going to bet
[10:14] <Overand> "
[10:14] <Overand> LKL is a userspace keylogger that runs under Linux on the x86 architechture. LKL sniffs and logs everything that passes through the hardware keyboard port (0x60). It translates keycodes to ASCII with a keymap file."
[10:14] <holycow> there you go
[10:14] <holycow> well
[10:14] <willys_fueguino> holycow, then how to do that??
[10:15] <willys_fueguino> wich keymap??
[10:15] <willys_fueguino> how??
[10:15] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[10:15] <swashbucklinstev> willys_fueguino: those are keypresses, and they show exactly what keys are being pressed :-D, this is the low level representation all the software uses to understand your keyboard
[10:15] <holycow> man lkl ... donno i don't use it ... i'm thinking there must be a switch jus tto capture ascii equivalent keys
[10:15] <swashbucklinstev> failing man lkl, try info lkl
[10:15] <willys_fueguino> I couldn't find docs on the webpage..
[10:16] <willys_fueguino> neither with man or /usr/shar/doc/lkl/README (this one is helpless)
[10:16] <willys_fueguino> ok swashbucklinstev... with lkl --help doesn't help neither...
[10:17] <swashbucklinstev> hm
[10:17] <holycow> maybe modifying the keymap?
[10:17] <holycow> lol :)
[10:17] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, info is more helpful than man
[10:17] <willys_fueguino> :-
[10:17] <holycow> to just intercept certain key values? hehe
[10:17] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> its 05:17 Am over here...
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> Im not spending more than one more hour trying to do this holycow...
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> im with this since like 3 hours ago...
[10:18] <swashbucklinstev> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120782
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> (I bet that is easy)
[10:19] <swashbucklinstev> you can guess how to find the right keymap for your case
[10:19] <windshear> Hello
[10:19] <windshear> If you use the install script in kubuntu 6.10 life cd and you have entered all the requested data you get to the -Ready to install- screen. This shows you the summary of the necessary info you provided to install kubuntu. (Language, Keyboard layout... till grub).
[10:19] <windshear> Then there is a note: If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks. [...] 
[10:19] <windshear> But unfortunately there are no changes listed below eventhough I told the script to format 2 partitions.
[10:19] <windshear> In 6.06 the changes were listed correctly.
[10:19] <windshear> i know this is about kubuntu
[10:20] <windshear> perhaps anybody knows why it is like this
[10:20] <holycow> windshear, try #kubuntu, they are more familiar with that
[10:21] <holycow> i mean try that first
[10:21] <windshear> hm, they told me to ask here....
[10:21] <tk> hmm weird
[10:21] <tk> variant: if I let my laptop sit.... the dvices disconnect :(
[10:21] <holycow> windshear, lol!
[10:21] <windshear> don't know if its the same in ubuntu, i have not yet tried it
[10:21] <holycow> windshear, ill shush then, i donno :) sorry!
[10:22] <cpk2> windshear: I said #ubuntu+1 would know better since its an edgy question lol
[10:22] <ADE> #GIM
[10:22] <cpk2> #ubuntu+1 != #ubuntu
[10:22] <holycow> ha!
[10:22] <wrabbit^> hi everybody.  Pardon the typos if any but my refresh rate is all screwy and I have tiny little letters.  Is there a SIMPLE way to change the refresh rate?  I'd like to run it at 1024x768 at 60 - 75 but the only refresh rate option for 1024x768 I have in display settings is 85 and it's horrible
[10:22] <flaccid> how to change the widget set font for firefox?
[10:22] <holycow> thar we go!
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev I LOVE YOU!!!!!!
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> yeah!!!
[10:23] <holycow> wrabbit^, there are a few steps:
[10:23] <wrabbit^> holycow, I'll take em
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, KP8<Del>/lo<Tab><Tab><Ret>
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> Thu Oct  5 05:20:45 2006
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> blablablabalblabaladblsabklakhfs<Ret>
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> Thu Oct  5 05:21:08 2006
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> hopeyou'regettingtheseyoufuckingkeylogger!!!<Ret>
[10:23] <holycow> 1. google yoour monitor model and make and find out the vertical and horizontal refresh rates
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> Thu Oct  5 05:21:23 2006
[10:23] <holycow> 2. backup your xorg.conf file
[10:23] <swashbucklinstev> love you too :-)
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> ;-)
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> xDDD
[10:24] <holycow> 3. insert the correct vert and horiz refresh rates into your xorg.conf file
[10:24] <holycow> 4. restart the desktop with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:24] <oskude> wrabbit^: well, my eyes hurt when i use lower than 70hz, can you use the monitors osd to resize the picture ?
[10:24] <swashbucklinstev> Sacrificial doves are sold in the temple forier.
[10:24] <cpk2> holycow: cant you just use modelines?
[10:24] <holycow> 5. log in and change resolution to whatever you want.  once you change the refresh rates you will be given the option to select all the possible resolutions for your monitor
[10:24] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, thanx u very much man... you just saved me a few hours of my life...
[10:25] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[10:25] <swashbucklinstev> glad to give it back
[10:25] <wrabbit^> I'll give that a go holycow , thanks.  Sorry oskude.  I can barely read that message hehe
[10:25] <swashbucklinstev> i saved a couple of days or weeks of my life by trying ubuntu today
[10:25] <holycow> cpk2, i guess but the essence of the problem is that monitors actually arent detected properly a lot of the time and we don't have a gui to let people select their monis models and makes like in suse to rectify the problem properly
[10:26] <mart> hi, i am no longer able to enable more than one workspace
[10:26] <willys_fueguino> now that I'll be able to spy my girlfriend chatting with his "friend", I'm happy...
[10:26] <cpk2> holycow: if you know alot about fixing monitor res and refresh maybe you could help me ^^
[10:26] <wrabbit^> only happened after I installed a bunch of drivers with automatix
[10:26] <mart> anyone heard of that before?
[10:26] <willys_fueguino> finally I can go to sleep...
[10:26] <swashbucklinstev> lol, anything for love
[10:26] <xorl> how do i see which file belongs to what debian package
[10:26] <cpk2> I gave up trying to get something higher than 1024x768 at any freq below 85hz
[10:26] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, anything to be sure that shes not cheating on me ;-)
[10:26] <wrabbit^> I actually prefer 60hz
[10:26] <willys_fueguino> thanx.. bytes!!!
[10:27] <holycow> cpk2, well do you have the correct vertical and horizontal refresh rates in your xorg.conf file for your monitor?
[10:27] <swashbucklinstev> hopefully you get the answer you want
[10:27] <cpk2> i want 75hz!
[10:27] <wrabbit^> ok, giving that a try now
[10:27] <holycow> thats really all it is
[10:27] <willys_fueguino> swashbucklinstev, I now I will
[10:27] <oskude> xorl: i use "apt-file search blah" quite a lot to find in which package a file belongs...
[10:27] <willys_fueguino> thanx to you too holycow ;-)
[10:27] <holycow> no biggie
[10:27] <hsihh> hi. i`m looking for someone who will help me build site about action "to make closed source version of Ubuntu- mp3, flash etc.)
[10:27] <cpk2> holycow: i tried using modelines but i dont think my xorg.conf was accepting any modeline arguments
[10:27] <flaccid> how to change the font for firefox used for the menus and trimmings?
[10:27] <holycow> cpk2, why?
[10:28] <Overand> hsihh: i suggest you read up on the GPL and the implications
[10:28] <Overand> heh
[10:28] <holycow> why arent' you inserting the CORRECT refresh rates?
[10:28] <swashbucklinstev> flaccid: user.chrome?
[10:28] <willys_fueguino> If you want to come to the arentinian patagonia I'll gladly will be your guide
[10:28] <willys_fueguino> *argentinian
[10:28] <cpk2> holycow: i dunno, it has "modes"
[10:28] <swashbucklinstev> heh
[10:28] <cpk2> but doesnt seem to like the modeline argument
[10:28] <holycow> cpk2, yeah leave that section alone, its fine if you added stuff
[10:28] <holycow> you MUST HAVE CORRECT REFRESH RATES FOR YOUR MONI
[10:29] <cpk2> got them straight from the manual
[10:29] <flaccid> swashbucklinstev: what is that?
[10:29] <holycow> mode lines are not the only thing used to give the user the correct resolution and refresh rates
[10:29] <holycow> cpk2, and it doesn't work?
[10:29] <hsihh> Overand - C-Ubuntu can on other license
[10:29] <holycow> *roh* *roh*
[10:29] <holycow> reinstall and try again, you borked something :)
[10:29] <holycow> lol
[10:29] <willys_fueguino> bytes!!!
[10:30] <swashbucklinstev> gosh, in one day I got all the hardware working on this laptop including suspend and hibernate and ndiswrapper running the builtin wifi... I couldn't be more please with my self :)
[10:30] <holycow> unless someonehere knows how to reconstruct an xorg.conf from scratch ... i can't remember how thats done ... dpkg-reconfigure wont reconstruct a missing xorg.conf file
[10:30] <swashbucklinstev> pleased with ubuntu
[10:30] <Bobrobyn> ubuntu is nice.
[10:30] <cpk2> holycow: I can ONLY get 85hz all the time and at a higher res than 1024x768 that freq seems to hurt my eyes
[10:30] <swashbucklinstev> Yarg, tis
[10:30] <Bobrobyn> My wireless works sometimes, but doesn't work other times.  It's wierd.
[10:31] <Bobrobyn> But I'm a n00b...so what yeah :P
[10:31] <holycow> cpk2, x takes various info from your config file including modelines and refresh rates to automatically calculate the possible display options
[10:31] <swashbucklinstev> Bobrobyn: doesn't work as in?
[10:31] <Bobrobyn> It doesn't scan.
[10:31] <swashbucklinstev> ah
[10:31] <swashbucklinstev> that is weird
[10:31] <holycow> you can't really change that without hacking in some other options in config files that COULD BURN YOUR MONITOR up, seriously :)
[10:31] <cpk2> holycow: i just want 75hz =(
[10:32] <xorl> oskude: i dont have the apt-file
[10:32] <andyjeffries> How can I make a binary executable link with .a libraries instead of dynamically using .so's (I'm having a problem with ushare not finding libupnp even though it's intalled and I can find the .so in /usr/local/lib)
[10:32] <xorl> program
[10:32] <holycow> i've not really seen a monitor that couldn't display large resolutions at 60hz or 75hz?
[10:32] <swashbucklinstev> Bobrobyn: maybe it doesn't have power? I noticed i had to press the wifi button to actually get it to work, I didn't expect this really
[10:32] <Bobrobyn> swashbucklinstev,  - The wifi button?  You mean the physical one on your latpop?
[10:32] <swashbucklinstev> Bobrobyn: indeed
[10:32] <swashbucklinstev> the very one
[10:32] <Bobrobyn> *laptop
[10:32] <oskude> xorl: then install it... sudo apt-get install apt-file (then you need to update its database before first use with "sudo apt-file update")
[10:32] <holycow> cpk2, the one thing you need to do is try another clean install somewhere with the same monitor to find out if its an issue with the calculations of the 'correct' refresh rates
[10:33] <Bobrobyn> Yeah, you see:  it is on.  The LED light is on *nod*
[10:33] <holycow> i once got my refresh rates wrong and couldn't figure out for a long time why my res sucked :)
[10:33] <cpk2> holycow: i was using the modeline generator at that xfree86 site
[10:33] <Bobrobyn> You wouldn't happen to know the command for scanning with the terminal, would you?
[10:33] <holycow> cpk2, wow! hehe :)
[10:33] <swashbucklinstev> Bobrobyn: then perhaps it's a case of the 802.3 interface being on? (the lan)
[10:33] <Bobrobyn> *has been using wifi-radar...but yeah.
[10:34] <cpk2> holycow: but to no avail, that or maybe xorg didnt like where i put the modeline
[10:34] <wrabbit^> ok, I'm lost.  I can't find anything on horizontal and vertical refresh lines let alone info on my monitor
[10:34] <Bobrobyn> Before it would actually pick stuff up while being on the LAN.
[10:34] <holycow> cpk2, i think i am of no help to you here, i don't want to waste any more of your time ... appologies
[10:34] <swashbucklinstev> I had to take down the ethernet on this one before I could get the Internet on wifi
[10:34] <xorl> oskude: i can't even find that in the cache
[10:34] <cpk2> holycow: do you know exactly where the modeline argument is supposed to go?
[10:34] <czer323> What's a good utility to use to search the entire computer?
[10:34] <oskude> xorl: seems to be in universe repo
[10:35] <swashbucklinstev> Bobrobyn: next time that happens, try ifconfig (device name of your lan interface) down
[10:35] <hoelk> anyone here using superkaramba with dbkalendar?
[10:35] <holycow> i can't remember actually ... i try not to get too fancy.  so far you are the first person to tell me you have the right refresh rates but your moni wont give you the right resolution optios
[10:35] <cpk2> =(
[10:35] <wrabbit^> any other ways holycow?
[10:35] <holycow> that is all i've ever had to do on dozens of machines and the same answer that always works in here
[10:35] <cpk2> wrabbit^: you know you monitor model number and stuff?
[10:36] <swashbucklinstev> cpk2: try it at 60hz, what does xrandr say about available modes?
[10:36] <holycow>         HorizSync       28-49
[10:36] <holycow>         VertRefresh     43-72
[10:36] <wrabbit^> cpk2, yeah but I can't find anything on it
[10:36] <Bobrobyn> swashbucklinstev, Okay, will do.  I guess.  Tomorrow when I take my laptop to class I'll try once more.
[10:36] <holycow> section monitor
[10:36] <cpk2> wrabbit^: you cant google a manual for it?
[10:36] <Bobrobyn> Thankies, too.
[10:36] <swashbucklinstev> yurp
[10:36] <cpk2> swashbucklinstev: eh?
[10:37] <swashbucklinstev> wrabbit^ is the one with monitor difficulties, I see
[10:37] <wrabbit^> cpk2, checking again
[10:37] <cpk2> swashbucklinstev: technically i do to, just gave up on it though =P
[10:37] <cpk2> too*
[10:38] <swashbucklinstev> My monitor is only able to run at 1400x1050 at 60hz
[10:38] <andyjeffries> How can I ensure a .so is in the right place and recognised by an application (so I don't get "error while loading shared libraries")
[10:38] <Healot> ld
[10:38] <oskude> andyjeffries: by only installing software from "official" ubuntu repos.
[10:38] <andyjeffries> oskude: Great, where is ushare?
[10:39] <oskude> andyjeffries: whats that ?
[10:39] <andyjeffries> oskude: A sharing system so I can play music from my Linux machine on my Xbox 360...
[10:39] <holycow> this should be good :)
[10:39] <swashbucklinstev> Now if I could just get gtk-wifi to install
[10:39] <andyjeffries> Healot: Was that at me?
[10:40] <Healot> ld > yes
[10:40] <xorl> oskude: that progarm didnt work
[10:40] <phiqtion> how can i find out an active ip in the terminal?
[10:40] <oskude> andyjeffries: sounds like (such rare tools) you have to compile it yourself... (if the makers dont have ubuntu packages)
[10:40] <holycow> sudo ifconfig
[10:40] <oskude> xorl: what file are you searching ?
[10:40] <andyjeffries> Healot: it's an automake program, but it's not recognising the libs...
[10:41] <Bobrobyn> Wow, that was odd...wifi-radar connected to a wireless network that wasn't actually there...and when I told it to disconnect, it started picking up wireless networks.  So that's probably it...hmm.  Maybe.
[10:41] <xorl> inittab
[10:41] <Healot> andyjeffries, oh that automake isntaller huh
[10:41] <andyjeffries> oskude: It's fairly new (it's only just added support for the Xbox 360).  I've no issue compiling it but it doesn't seem to like finding the .so files.
[10:41] <oskude> andyjeffries: you need configure before make... (usually) (and for compiling you need the -dev packages of the libs)
[10:41] <Geoffrey2> when using ies4linux, would there be any real need to install anything other than IE 6?
[10:41] <swashbucklinstev> Bobrobyn: Your chip was salvaged from GITS, ;-D
[10:41] <swashbucklinstev> She's trying to dial up!
[10:41] <andyjeffries> Healot: :-) I know, I know - I'd just have thought there was some option to pass to enable it to use the .a's when linking (but --enable-static that I've found doesn't do it)
[10:42] <wrabbit^> I seriously can't find any user guides, manuals or faws on the Philips 107S5 CRT
[10:42] <oskude> xorl: and which one ? i find many with "apt-file search inittab"
[10:42] <wrabbit^> automatix worked find on my laptop
[10:43] <holycow> wrabbit^, why not search for refresh rates on that?
[10:43] <holycow> those are very often listed by online sellers
[10:43] <Bobrobyn> Now, what's really odd, is the wireless works without a driver installed...at least, under "Wireless Network Drivers", anyways.
[10:43] <wrabbit^> holycow, I know this monitor can do 1024x768 at 65hz
[10:44] <xorl> oskude: i get nothing
[10:44] <swashbucklinstev> wrabbit^: try it at 60hz, seriously, I have a good hunch
[10:44] <oskude> xorl: did you do "sudo apt-file update" as i told ? (it should download a while)
[10:45] <wrabbit^> ok, but how?  I have no idea how to add it.  I know I can do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf but that's about the extent of my knowledge
[10:45] <xorl> oskude: doing that now
[10:46] <swashbucklinstev> wrabbit^: I predict your monitor will do 1280x1024 at 60hz :-)
[10:46] <swashbucklinstev> wrabbit^: probably just google and look at other peoples xorg.confs
[10:46] <Shadowpillar> mine is 60 hz, but it matters not
[10:46] <swashbucklinstev> or run xorgconfig
[10:46] <cpk2> wrabbit^: you can do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:46] <Shadowpillar> could also be the limit of your monitor
[10:46] <Shadowpillar> wrabbit^: what's the size of your monitor?
[10:47] <wrabbit^> 17"
[10:47] <swashbucklinstev> Shadowpillar: I know my CRT is unable to pull off anything better than 1280x1024 for any frequency higher than 60hz, otherwise at 60hz it will do 1400x1050
[10:48] <oskude> wrabbit^: where did you search ? i found this right away at philips.com http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/1/107p50_00/107p50_00_dfu_eng.pdf#search=%22107S5%22
[10:48] <holycow> hehe
[10:48] <Shadowpillar> probably because your monitor isnt designed to go above that limit
[10:48] <wrabbit^> well I just suck then
[10:48] <wrabbit^> sorry
[10:48] <Shadowpillar> 17" usually maxes out at 1280x1024
[10:49] <Shadowpillar> and stays at a sane refresh rate
[10:49] <Shadowpillar> depends on who makes it really
[10:49] <Four23619> for some reason, my 17" CRT can do 1600x1200
[10:49] <C-O-L-T> hello I have installed xubuntu on an older system and my mouse does not works at all, what to do
[10:49] <oskude> wrabbit^: and i only searched cause i allso have a philips (at home) and found the manuals right away...
[10:49] <Shadowpillar> it's all up to the maker
[10:49] <swashbucklinstev> Four23619: at like 60hz right?
[10:49] <Four23619> lol yeah
[10:49] <Shadowpillar> optiquest and viewsonic make good monitors
[10:50] <Shadowpillar> luckily with my LCD I dont have to worry about refresh rates
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> NEC too ... i would like to add
[10:50] <Four23619> ive never taken it higher than 1280x1024
[10:50] <Shadowpillar> video[nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  @ Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]  K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]  Miscellaneous Control] 
[10:50] <Shadowpillar> hrmm
[10:50] <oskude> C-O-L-T: does the mouse work in the login screen ? or even in another computer ?
[10:50] <swashbucklinstev> yeah, seems like there are few CRT guns out there that can do much better without paying for it dearly
[10:50] <Shadowpillar> that didnt do what I wnated it to do
[10:50] <Shadowpillar> wanted*
[10:50] <Shadowpillar> night
[10:50] <rofl0r> apt-get install apache2
[10:50] <rofl0r> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.1_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <rofl0r> this file exists, but with a 2 in the end instead of a 1. how to tell APT ?
[10:50] <C-O-L-T> oskude: the mouse works on other computers and worked under win 98
[10:50] <hitomu> Hi! Where can I find phpdoc for generating API documentation? I can't find it using apt-get.
[10:50] <oskude> C-O-L-T: hmm, usb or ps/2 mouse ?
[10:51] <grub_booter> hi - does anyone know a simple shell based test to determine the distro? ie: ubuntu dapper or 6.06?
[10:51] <Four23619> i usually have my is set at 1024x768, as i can do 100hz
[10:51] <hitomu> ?
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> grub_booter, cat /etc/issue
[10:51] <hitomu> Hi! Where can I find phpdoc for generating API documentation? I can't find it using apt-get.
[10:51] <grub_booter> wickedpuppy: ah - thanks
[10:51] <C-O-L-T> oskude: it is not usb, it is ps2 but older one, you know that flat connector like in the old 386 days
[10:52] <wrabbit^> ok, so now the pdf won't open
[10:52] <wrabbit^> oh joy
[10:52] <oskude> C-O-L-T: hmm, havent used those for year... but i think they should work...
[10:52] <swashbucklinstev> Four23619: sometimes 60hz is annoying to my eyes but lately it doesn't bother me, which does bother me... I wonder if my brain is slowing down that I'm not a teenager any longer... or because I've been drinking alot since turning 21 :D
[10:52] <C-O-L-T> oskude: no it does not works at all, what to do?
[10:52] <C-O-L-T> oskude: need a driver or something/
[10:52] <C-O-L-T> ?
[10:52] <Four23619> heh
[10:53] <Four23619> i usually find anything below say.. ~70hz bad on my eyes
[10:53] <oskude> C-O-L-T: sorry, cant help on that, but i assume it should work "out-of-the-box" :/
[10:53] <oskude> wrabbit^: works here, try downloading again
[10:53] <C-O-L-T> oskude: i see, I don't know either what is the problem
[10:53] <cpk2> the wierd thing is that 85Hz at a res of 1024x768 is fine but at a higher res it seems to hurt my eyes...
[10:53] <swashbucklinstev> they say dumb cats can watch TV with humans and that typical healthy cats would just see junk on the CRT at 60hz which is the normal freq for TVs and most CRTs
[10:53] <C-O-L-T> oskude: do you know how to start that menu with keyboard
[10:54] <C-O-L-T> oskude: some combination or something
[10:54] <oskude> C-O-L-T: nope sorry. dont even know under gnome
[10:54] <oskude> wrabbit^: my md5sum is 5b08d8252c6711f5997adf14d91708cc  107p50_00_dfu_eng.pdf ;)
[10:54] <Ayabara> I'm trying to make nis work on my ubuntu. I've changed /etc/resolv.conf to look for the servers I need, but when I log out and back in resolv.conf is changed back to only looking in localdomain. what do I need to configure to make resolv.conf stay the way I want it to?
[10:54] <Four23619> i think our tv standard over here is ~50hz
[10:54] <swashbucklinstev> (the human eye transmits images to the brain at 60hz)
[10:54] <Four23619> but my tv does 100hz
[10:55] <Four23619> i think
[10:55] <orion2012> Ayabara: using dhcp?
[10:55] <wrabbit^> I can't read a word of that, sorry mate :(
[10:55] <wrabbit^> oskude, ^
[10:55] <swashbucklinstev> Someday I'll lavish my desk with a high follutant giganto SONY or something similar
[10:55] <Ayabara> orion2012, running ubuntu under vmware, so I'm not really sure how it all fits together...
[10:55] <oskude> wrabbit^: DOWNLOAD THE FILE AGAIN ! BETTER?
[10:56] <wickedpuppy> lol
[10:56] <mjmartin> hola
[10:56] <wrabbit^> oskude, yeah thanks :) but I tried dl again... page just comes up blank
[10:56] <Four23619> i want an SED montior, when they are in mass production, and become cheap enough
[10:56] <wrabbit^> plus, it's the wrong monitor
[10:56] <orion2012> Ayabara: resolv.conf is usually overwritten by dhcp, you can configure dhclient to not overwrite it
[10:56] <swashbucklinstev> SED?
[10:56] <oskude> wrabbit^: hmm, then you might have other problems...
[10:56] <oskude> wrabbit^: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?session=20061005044552_84.177.75.219&scy=GB&mode=search&ctn=107P50%2F00&ds=107P50%2F00&slg=ENG&searchtext=107S5&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&qslg=on
[10:57] <Khamael> is there an nvidia specific howto for aiglx in dapper?
[10:57] <Ayabara> orion2012, aha. that sounds like good advice :-)
[10:57] <oskude> has "The following models can be incorporated with the Multimedia Base: 109B5, 109E5,109F5, 107B5, 107E5,107F5, 107S5, 107T5.27."
[10:57] <Four23619> SED == http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-conduction_Electron-emitter_Display
[10:57] <swashbucklinstev> ah, wow
[10:57] <wrabbit^> nope, won't show me
[10:57] <wrabbit^> :(
[10:58] <wrabbit^> wow, automatix really did a number on my machine :P  that'll teach me to take the easy wway
[10:58] <oskude> wrabbit^: hs 30 - 97 KHz / vs 50-160 Hz (says the pdf)
[10:58] <darkanyel> HELP!
[10:58] <Four23619> but i have a feeling SED will cost $$$ when it first comes out :(
[10:58] <swashbucklinstev> Four23619: OLED is coming along nicely, reminds me of how plasma happened
[10:58] <orion2012> Ayabara: alternatively, configure you dhcp server to overwrite resolv.conf with the proper configuration
[10:59] <darkanyel> help me please
[10:59] <wrabbit^> oskude,: Sorry man, I don't know what to do which those figures.
[10:59] <oskude> wrabbit^: write them down...
[10:59] <cpk2> darkanyel: unfortunately i dont think anyone can read minds tonite
[10:59] <swashbucklinstev> darkanyel: I doubt anyone here is a licensed therapist
[11:01] <wrabbit^> oskude,  30 - 97Khz / vs 50-160Hz? what comes before the 30
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> Khamael: for nvidia, you need xgl, not aiglx. See !xgl and #ubuntu-xgl for more information
[11:01] <orion2012> fyrestrtr: there are nvidia beta drivers that work with AIGLX
[11:01] <Khamael> fyrestrtr: the nvidia beta drivers support aiglx
[11:01] <oskude> wrabbit^: horizontal
[11:01] <Northsea> yup
[11:01] <surface> Four23619:  i tot u call me
[11:01] <Northsea> dunno how stable they are
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> orion2012: yeah, and beta drivers with beta software is SURELY going to be STABLE :)
[11:02] <wrabbit^> oskude, ah right, thanks
[11:02] <Northsea> they don't have to be _that_ unstable :)
[11:02] <orion2012> fyrestrtr: I tried them, it worked, but not well. So, yeah, I'd have to agree
[11:03] <Northsea> how stable is aiglx vs xgl btw? have only tried xgl
[11:04] <Khamael> if the drivers fail, I can fall back to older drivers, or in emergencies run nv
[11:04] <orion2012> Khamael: search for "nvidia aiglx beryl" in the forums, you're sure to find what you need
[11:06] <AHEAD> quanta gente, ciao
[11:08] <holycow> Northsea, bothare pre - alpha stage
[11:09] <holycow> don't expect anything in terms of stability.  i ran aiglx on top of compiz of all things, but do expect to hose your system during the install
[11:09] <holycow> uninstalling all that stuff and getting everything back is quite tedious, its easier to reinstall
[11:09] <bear> hi
[11:10] <davin> how do I set gDesklets to load the daemon/service/whatever so that the desklets load at system startup?
[11:10] <oskude> holycow: or to have an extra partition for such kinf of experiments...
[11:10] <AHEAD> ciao ciao
[11:10] <bear> spricht hier jemand deutsch
[11:10] <holycow> indeedy
[11:10] <oskude> !de
[11:10] <holycow> nite
[11:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:10] <orion2012> davin: System->Preferences->Sessions
[11:10] <orion2012> davin: add gdesklets to startup programs
[11:11] <boink> bear: wir sprechen Deutsch nicht hier
[11:11] <simmerz> Hi, I'm having problems with the mysql dron.daily job. It is saying there is no binary log (true) although mysql is configured to write one
[11:11] <boink> !tell bear about de
[11:11] <davin> orion2812: cheers
[11:12] <wickedpuppy> simmerz, for these kind of program specific questions , lets hope there is a pro here who is awake .. or google
[11:13] <czer323> question> Gnome: Easy way to change default program used to open a file?
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> like .. what kind of file ?
[11:14] <oskude> czer323: right click on that file and select "open with other application"
[11:14] <rofl0r> how can i change the password of root in shell ?
[11:14] <oskude> !root > rofl0r
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> rofl0r, why you need to change root password ???
[11:15] <rofl0r> i got a fresh installed rootserver
[11:15] <rofl0r> with a stupid password
[11:15] <dinamizador> hola
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> rootserver ? whats that ?
[11:16] <rofl0r> so whats the command
[11:16] <simmerz> wickedpuppy: debian/ubuntu have messed around with the logging to make it go to syslog instead of mysql doing it itself. and the binary log doesn't get dumped
[11:16] <dinamizador> alguien que hable espaol?
[11:16] <rofl0r> a dedicated RENT-server
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> !es
[11:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:16] <oskude> rofl0r: "passwd foobar" would change the password of the user that youre using
[11:16] <rofl0r> thx oskude
[11:16] <oskude> rofl0r: to "foobar"
[11:16] <LookTJ> Hi
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> rofl0r, then its not ubuntu ...
[11:16] <cpk2> i actually setup my root account after a very wierd incident the other day
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> simmerz, then change the cron ?
[11:16] <rofl0r> wickedpuppy, it is ubuntu, but there's a root
[11:17] <wickedpuppy> ok ...
[11:17] <wickedpuppy> i was going to preach about the danger of using root ... but i guess i will pass it
[11:18] <LookTJ> lol there's a reason for sudo
[11:18] <printk> besides you can always sudo -i if you must
[11:18] <LookTJ> sudo temp root power
[11:18] <cpk2> the other day sudo broke on me
 rofl0r: to "foobar" <=-wah?
[11:18] <cpk2> and i wish i had set up root =\
[11:19] <printk> cpk2: eh boot a livecd :)
[11:19] <rofl0r> psaawd root
[11:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, it changes foobar's password
[11:19] <LookTJ> go in recovery mode
[11:19] <cpk2> printk: it broke while the system was running, any sudo command would hang
[11:19] <printk> cpk2: yah... that woulda been a pain
[11:20] <printk> i don't care what people say though, I definitely have root setup.  It's my box, I do what i want ;P
[11:20] <cpk2> printk: i had to ctrl alt del in the end =(
[11:22] <oskude> Kamping_Kaiser: rofl0r: yup, sorry it chnages foobar's password (the bassword is asked afterwards)
[11:23] <oskude> Kamping_Kaiser: been using mysqadmin too much ;)
[11:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> oskude, lol.
[11:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyway, bbl
[11:26] <swashbucklinstev> anyone else have gtkwifi running?
[11:26] <tucoz> Hi, i am using the open source ati driver. But, when i type glxinfo with debug output i get the following output:libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri//r300_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri//r300_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[11:27] <nysosym> anyone here, with skills in changing icons from gnome?
[11:27] <Arcad3> !ati
[11:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:27] <tucoz> I think this is because of some old fglrx driver, but I have removed all fglrx packages
[11:27] <tucoz> Arcad3, I'll see if i find some info on this subject there
[11:27] <Arcad3> ok
[11:28] <LookTJ> tucoz: you get problems when you restart gdm?
[11:28] <tucoz> LookTJ, I run fine. But no direct rendering
[11:28] <tucoz> *it runs
[11:29] <LookTJ> try sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:29] <LookTJ> and choose the driver
[11:29] <tucoz> LookTJ, I have done that.
[11:29] <frogzoo> tucoz: you'lll find that lib in /usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so
[11:29] <tucoz> frogzoo, yes. I know. But if i create a symlink to that, i get another error
[11:29] <frogzoo> tucoz: reset lib path & recompile
[11:29] <tucoz> hmm. is that a command?
[11:30] <frogzoo> tucoz: well what's the other error ?
[11:30] <tucoz> hold on
[11:30] <grub_booter> anyone care to test an install script for some software? the software itself is a 3d composting/editing tool called jahshaka (and some related tools) - relies heavily on opengl... the software is installed via the package manager so it's trivial to remove after
[11:31] <frogzoo> anyone care to test my install script that installs a rootkit then deletes your root partition ?
[11:31] <tucoz> frogzoo, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r300_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_get_dispatch
[11:31] <grub_booter> frogzoo: heh
[11:32] <tucoz> frogzoo, do you know how to reset lib path, and recompile?
[11:32] <chamo> hello
[11:32] <rambo3> !ldconf
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <frogzoo> tucoz: look in the makefiles for LIBPATH or similiar
[11:33] <rambo3> !ldconfig
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <frogzoo> tucoz: however, it looks like it's finding the library ok - but doesn't like the version, you may be missing #IFDEFs or something - read the INSTALL docs, I would say
[11:34] <tucoz> frogzoo, ok. thanks
[11:36] <tempest2k4> can somebody help with xgl on ubuntu ? i get errorwhen i try and launch
[11:37] <kothz> bah - at work, I installed 6.06, and using the default install of firefox hit a page with flash - the page prompted me to DL and install the plugin, it was all good.  then at home, with the same version of firefox and ubuntu, it wants me to download the .tar.gz file.  someone needs to beat adobe with a stick.
[11:37] <Arcad3> !firefox flash plugin
[11:37] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[11:39] <hockyhair> hello
[11:39] <hockyhair> im trying to find a battery, and a volume control applet i can use with pypanel
[11:39] <hockyhair> battery time rem + master vol control applets for pypanel
[11:40] <Arcad3> can someone tell me something about this?ef4ce60654d75c40415ed44db0460e94
[11:40] <pianoboy3333> Is there a gnome setting to dim the brightness of my monitor?
[11:41] <kothz> Outside of the fact that it's a hex string? :)
[11:41] <kothz> md5 string maybe?
[11:41] <cpk2> lol
[11:41] <Arcad3> java encription?
[11:41] <swashbucklinstev> Arcad3: that appears to be a sequence of latin letters and arabic numerals...
[11:41] <cpk2> ahahaha
[11:41] <cpk2> oh boy the response keep getting better
[11:41] <Arcad3> why u laugh ?
[11:41] <swashbucklinstev> psh, you should sit in #emacs sometime cpk2 ;-)
[11:42] <Arcad3> :(
[11:42] <swashbucklinstev> Arcad3: it looks like an md5 sum actually.
[11:42] <eythian> Hi, I'm having an issue with networking - I moved everything from /var to a new /var on another partition (the old one was just in /), and now when I boot up, I don't get any network devices because /run/network/ifstate doesn't exist.
[11:42] <swashbucklinstev> md5 sums are calculated against files to "fingerprint" them
[11:42] <eythian> If I create it, it goes away on next boot
[11:43] <phiqtion> is there a good torrent client?
[11:43] <swashbucklinstev> eythian: does fstab know about this?
[11:43] <eythian> and I lose my network again :( anyone know what's special about /var/run that hasn't carried across?
[11:43] <eythian> swashbucklinstev, it knows about the new /var
[11:43] <eythian> but if there's supposed to be a special mount over /var/run, I'm not getting that.
[11:43] <Arcad3> that code translates in a php page name
[11:43] <kothz> Hrm... ubotu's info about the flash plugin is interesting, but not helpful :)
[11:44] <phiqtion> is there a good torrent client?
[11:44] <swashbucklinstev> eythian: hm, I wonder what the dealio be - that would have been the obvious cause
[11:44] <swashbucklinstev> phiqtion: not a single one
[11:44] <swashbucklinstev> phiqtion: there is azureus though
[11:44] <wickedpuppy> phiqtion, i second azureus
[11:44] <czer323> phiqtion> i ended up using wine and utorrent ;)
[11:44] <phiqtion> thanks guys
[11:45] <xdx> hi
[11:45] <frogzoo> phiqtion: azureus
[11:45] <xdx> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[11:45] <xdx>  ymessenger depends on xlibs (>> 3.3.6); however:
[11:45] <xdx>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[11:45] <xdx> dpkg: error processing ymessenger (--install):
[11:45] <xdx>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:45] <xdx> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:45] <xdx>  ymessenger
[11:45] <swashbucklinstev> Hear, hear! utorrent ftw.
[11:45] <frogzoo> xdx: please don't spam
[11:45] <urakaipa> Hi there, I'm having a very strange trouble: I can't see the desktop anymore. Even if I reinstall the os, gnome loads the panels, I can start programs and so on, but the desktop doesn't show any icons nor the wallpaper
[11:45] <wickedpuppy> pls do not paste here xdx ...
[11:45] <xdx> can anyone help me ?!
[11:45] <frogzoo> !pastebin > xdx
[11:45] <eythian> swashbucklinstev, can you see if you have anything mounted on /var/run perhaps?
[11:45] <swashbucklinstev> sure, I'll check now
[11:45] <Arcad3> kothz:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:45] <czer323> swashbucklinstev, if only the guy would port it to linux... it's like, i would have seriously thought linux would have an uber-version out, but noooo... people love rtorrents... :-\
[11:45] <eythian> e.g. I have "varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)", I'm wondering if there's a varrun equivalent that I'm missing
[11:45] <swashbucklinstev> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[11:46] <wickedpuppy> xdx, the problem is package xlibs is not installed ... so why not install it ??????
[11:46] <swashbucklinstev> czer323: aren't there any good readline/ncurses based torrent clients? I swear there is atleast one I remember reading about
[11:46] <xdx> wickedpuppy, but i cant find it
[11:46] <Arcad3> find the .tgz package of ymaessenger
[11:46] <swashbucklinstev> it runs headless, you can disconnect a client from the server
[11:47] <Arcad3> is easyer
[11:47] <czer323> swashbucklinstev, rtorrent has ncurses support.  but ti's like.. console...  i actually LIKE my mouse... and my right click.
[11:47] <wickedpuppy> xdx,  how did you search it ?
[11:47] <eythian> swashbucklinstev, tnx. Now to work out why I'm not getting that...
[11:47] <swashbucklinstev> well, let me elaborate, there's  a "server" that is a client (in terms of bittorrent) and "clients" connect to it
[11:47] <davin> Hi guys, how do I see if my Logitec QuickCam Express (webcam) module is loaded?
[11:47] <cpk2> azureus runs headless
[11:48] <swashbucklinstev> czer323: ah, rtorrent is the one, I think
[11:48] <xdx> wickedpuppy, with aptitude
[11:48] <swashbucklinstev> czer323: yeah I'm mouse averse :-)
[11:48] <rambo3> davin check dmesg
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> xdx, xlibs-dev - X Window System client library development files transitional package
[11:48] <rambo3> and lsmod
[11:48] <czer323> utorrent and azureus both have great looking web interfaces.
[11:48] <czer323> utorrent's is especially amazing.
[11:48] <swashbucklinstev> azureus is pretty decent, must admit
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> azureus is damn good ... but its java .. thats the only minus point
[11:49] <xdx> wickedpuppy, i install that, and it not work
[11:49] <swashbucklinstev> the plugins help sell azureus too
[11:49] <czer323> azureus> if it didn't take up so many damn resources.  i mean, it IS amazing.
[11:49] <urakaipa> hello again.. any idea about this? I can see gnome panels, start application and so on, but the desktop is black without icons and wallpaper and still not accessible (right click, and so on)
[11:49] <davin> rambo3: http://pastecode.com/5967 ?
[11:49] <wickedpuppy> xdx, then i suppose you can yahoo ??
[11:49] <czer323> wtf was that? message to azureus... stop using so much memory.
[11:49] <wickedpuppy> blame sun ...
[11:50] <czer323> but sun makes sparc servers... can't blame a company liek that. ;)
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> java ...
[11:50] <czer323> crossplatform!
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> applets ... swt .... all memory suckers
[11:51] <rambo3> davin if lsmod show quickcam then its loaded
[11:51] <czer323> lsusb woudl show if it's plugged in. ;)  I just learned a new trick.
[11:52] <rambo3> hmm no
[11:53] <Arcad3> where can i get a list of channels on freenode?
[11:54] <czer323> arcad3> depending on your irc client, /list should at least show yoau huge list.
[11:54] <wickedpuppy> Arcad3, /list
[11:54] <Jimmey> lupine_85, could I ask for a little more help from you?
[11:54] <czer323> arcad3> but i'd look for an option in the irc client first.
[11:54] <berent> does torrent really increase the download speed
[11:55] <wickedpuppy> berent, no ... seeders does
[11:55] <czer323> berent> it's supposed to be the availability of other people to download from.
[11:55] <czer323> That's what speeds it up.
[11:55] <pianoboy3333> Is there a gnome setting to dim the brightness of my monitor?
[11:55] <berent> wickedpuppy: what are seeders
[11:55] <czer323> seeder=uploader
[11:55] <wickedpuppy> for example , bleach is damn speedy .. but i can't say the same thing for most movies ...
[11:56] <berent> czer323 : will it hack on other's speeds if yes by what %
[11:56] <berent> max
[11:56] <wickedpuppy> will what hack on other speed ?
[11:56] <berent> torrent as per czer
[11:57] <czer323> what is "hack on"
[11:57] <wickedpuppy> as per czer ?
[11:57] <swashbucklinstev> damn, gtkwifi will not bleeding install for me :-(, it complains about it being corrupt or the permissions being wrong. I know it's not the permissions, can someone see if they can install it? basically it's like wifi-radar but it seems to be possibly better. I just tried v 1.09
[11:57] <czer323> reduce speed?  reduce download or upload speed?
[11:57] <wickedpuppy> berent, pls ask in english ... LOL
[11:58] <berent> ok czer323 told that it depends on other's availability
[11:58] <oskude> swashbucklinstev: apt-cache search gtkwifi doesnt give any results...
[11:58] <berent> to download from
[11:59] <berent> what does it mean
[11:59] <czer323> berent> yes, it will use their upload bandwidth to send it to you.
[11:59] <czer323> berent> so, the more people that have the file you want, the quicker you will get it because they will all send it to you at the same time.
[11:59] <wickedpuppy> berent, you want to ask if your download speed depends on the seeders upload speed ?
[12:00] <wickedpuppy> czer323, actually more people you connect to ...
[12:00] <berent> but in anycase my bandwidth will be deciding it right
[12:00] <newbie263> any tips on vpn setup? or where i can find help
[12:00] <grem> is there a chan dedicated to ubuntu edgy eft?
[12:00] <eclipse75> hello world
[12:00] <grem> lol hi
[12:00] <eclipse75> ubuntu is definetly a resource hog... =(
[12:00] <czer323> berent> your maximum incoming bandwidth is deciding factor, yes
[12:00] <berent> if i have speed of x and i get from speed of y with y>x still my max recieving will be x
[12:01] <czer323> grem> #ubuntu+1
[12:01] <grem> ty czer323
[12:01] <grem> :)
[12:01] <wickedpuppy> berent, yes ...
[12:01] <czer323> brent> yes
[12:01] <moox> moox>test
[12:01] <wickedpuppy> if not i be getting naruto at T3 speed
[12:01] <czer323> !moo
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <berent> so %agewise there won't be substantial increase
[12:01] <berent> with torrent also
[12:02] <berent> right
[12:02] <rambo3> apt-get moo ?
[12:02] <eclipse75> t3 speed?... doubtful
[12:02] <wickedpuppy> berent, mroe people seed .. fater the download ..simple ?
[12:02] <czer323> rambo> with super cow powers?
[12:02] <wickedpuppy> eclipse75, of course i will net get t3 ...
[12:02] <wickedpuppy> never*
[12:02] <moox> moox can you see that ?
[12:03] <eclipse75> it would be nice though hehe
[12:03] <rambo3> it makes apt look professional
[12:03] <Khamael> who is lilo from the topic?
[12:03] <wickedpuppy> Khamael, ah google for "slashdot lilo"
[12:03] <eclipse75> lilo was the owner of this entire server
[12:03] <wickedpuppy> server or network ?
[12:03] <oskude> Khamael: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Levin
[12:03] <eclipse75> network
[12:03] <eclipse75> opps
[12:03] <halex-ab> network..
[12:04] <humungous> what to i use to return a packages gconf settings to those of a fresh install?
[12:05] <humungous> s/to/do/
[12:05] <ashzilla> okay... so, super weird
[12:05] <ashzilla> Every ubuntu CD I download does not load when I try to boot from CD
[12:05] <wickedpuppy> ashzilla, checked their md5sums ?
[12:05] <czer323> ashzilla, so, it's your computer?
[12:05] <wickedpuppy> before and after burning
[12:06] <ashzilla> but windows does; however installation fails
[12:06] <ashzilla> wicked, I haven't
[12:06] <czer323> ashzilla, sounds like you have some other issues going on, other than just burning cds.
[12:06] <ashzilla> czer323: I do
[12:06] <ashzilla> but I cannot go to sleep until I resolve this, I must fix it for work
[12:07] <czer323> ouch
[12:07] <czer323> and this computer booted to an ubuntu live cd?
[12:07] <ashzilla> no
[12:07] <ashzilla> I can't get that far
[12:07] <wickedpuppy> ...
[12:07] <ashzilla> I'm on my roommates PC
[12:08] <wickedpuppy> if you can't boot from livecd .. whats ya hope of installing by tonight ?
[12:08] <ashzilla> I know the CD drive works
[12:08] <tengil> my iptables dropped packages are logged in kern.debug and using syslog-ng i get all those iptables logs in a iptables.log file. they dont show up in kern.log or syslog anymore. how do i however get them to not show up when i type dmesg?
[12:08] <czer323> ashzilla> alright, do all the normal things, remove as many extra devices as you can, no extra USB stuff
[12:08] <ashzilla> It reads the windows cd perfectly
[12:08] <ashzilla> czer323: it's a laptop
[12:08] <czer323> so, keyboard, mouse, computer, video, power...
[12:08] <eclipse75> hmm
[12:09] <czer323> how far does the live cd get?
[12:09] <ashzilla> nothing
[12:09] <ashzilla> nowhere
[12:09] <PipexGuy> anyone had issues with dapper logging itself out .. all by own :(
[12:09] <ashzilla> not even the ... when it starts to get read
[12:09] <kemik> ashzilla: try another CD-r brand, and burn them in another CDRW
[12:09] <ashzilla> and I tried two linux ISOs
[12:09] <wickedpuppy> ashzilla, order pizza for tonight ... and beer ... really
[12:09] <ashzilla> kemik: I did ;)
[12:09] <esputo>  hello, I would like to create a dapper server iso with updated packages, I've been reading arround but I get stuck on the creation of "Packages" files under /dists/ directory, is there any tool for that?
[12:09] <kemik> ashzilla: ok.. then getting ubuntu to work isnt worth the headache ;)
[12:10] <ashzilla> kemik: could you recommend something to fix my drive
[12:10] <ashzilla> so I can at least get windows installed for work
[12:10] <kemik> ashzilla: nope.. i got debian working on my laptop, however ubuntu and vector linux is a "no-go"
[12:10] <ashzilla> when I was in the windows XP CD, I just selected to remove both linux partitions
[12:10] <ashzilla> then it said my drive was faulty
[12:11] <eclipse75> ashzilla, will your cdrom just not read cds on bootup?
[12:11] <czer323> ashzilla, the hard drive or the cd?
[12:11] <kemik> ashzilla: is your CD-drive faulty, or the HD ?
[12:11] <ashzilla> eclipse75: yes, it reads windows fine
[12:11] <Dimensions> Hi, i have a question i have plugged 18 dongles to my system with three usb hubs but i can scan only 16 maximum ... why is that and how can i have more than 16 lets say 32 dongles ?
[12:11] <ashzilla> kemik: It's a mysstery
[12:11] <czer323> ashzilla> reads the windows cd fine? or the windows HD installation?
[12:12] <ashzilla> czer323: it reads the set up CD fine
[12:12] <kemik> ashzilla: my bet is the CD drive is faulty... and it's luck that let you boot the windows cd so far
[12:12] <ashzilla> no issues ever before this with the cd drive...
[12:12] <eclipse75> does ubuntu use madwifi or ndiswrapper for wifi?
[12:13] <kemik> ashzilla: but it sounds like it's either a) cd drive. or b) hd
[12:13] <czer323> ashzilla> so, the wincd allows you to click on the linux paritions, then stops?
[12:13] <eclipse75> because im using the ath0 chipset =S
[12:13] <czer323> eclipse75, madwifi
[12:13] <eclipse75> k thanks =)
[12:13] <ashzilla> are there any special boot falgs I could use somehow?
[12:13] <ashzilla> OMG
[12:13] <ashzilla> IT BOOTED
[12:14] <ashzilla> wtf
[12:14] <eclipse75> heh
[12:14] <Dimensions> any one ?
[12:14] <ashzilla> this was honestly try #50
[12:14] <czer323> It's magic.
[12:14] <kemik> ashzilla: im guessing (still) that your CD-rom is broken
[12:14] <czer323> ashzilla, is the windows cd a burned cd too?
[12:14] <ashzilla> czer323: yessir
[12:15] <czer323> ashzilla, same brand?
[12:15] <ashzilla> nope
[12:15] <ashzilla> I bought new CD-RWs tonight to insure that wasn't the issue
[12:15] <Dimensions> i have heard there is a limitation of 128 devices in linux ... why i can't plug more than 16 dongles then ? does it has to do any thing with kernel do i have to make some changes in kernel ? or what
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> i am sure i should report you to BSA or not ...
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> not sure ...
[12:15] <ashzilla> the cd drive is making some UNUSUAL WIERD noises
[12:15] <czer323> Dimensions, 128 is limit for usb.  have you tried in other os with all 18?
[12:16] <czer323> ashzilla, it's probably having issues with the cd.
[12:16] <eclipse75> that just means your cdrom is happy ashzilla =)
[12:16] <ashzilla> negatory
[12:16] <ashzilla> I think it must be broken
[12:17] <ashzilla> I need to get linux installed to the HD, though, while it's deciding it wants to read the disk this time
[12:17] <kemik> ashzilla: i've tried to tell you this 3 times already ! :P
[12:17] <czer323> ashzilla, I think i've gone through at least 5 laptop cdroms.
[12:17] <eclipse75> im still on my first
[12:17] <eclipse75> <-- ibm a30 thinkpad
[12:18] <czer323> eclipse75, have a few more laptops. ;)  Toshiba is usually the brand of drive i end up with for some reason.
[12:18] <eclipse75> heh
[12:18] <eclipse75> toshiba, they good quality?
[12:18] <eclipse75> ive never tried anything except for ibm and acer
[12:19] <ashzilla> hrrrrmm
[12:19] <czer323> eclipse75, the computers that toshiba is making now are good, but it's just a standard OEM drive taht they sell.
[12:19] <ashzilla> initrd.gz just reported mismatch when checking the cd for errors
[12:19] <ashzilla> could that be it?
[12:19] <enquest> Is Ichat of mac SIP protocol? how can I connect to a ICHAT user with Ekiga
[12:19] <czer323> ashzilla, it failed to load the kernel, most likely because it coudln't load the cd.
[12:20] <PipexGuy> anyone had issues with dapper logging itself out .. all by own :(
[12:20] <czer323> enquest, ichat is AIM
[12:20] <eclipse75> can the laptop boot from usb?
[12:21] <enquest> czer323, how can I make then a cal to AIM?
[12:21] <swashbucklinstev> aha, checked gtkwifi out of cvs, got it running, it works! one question though, how do I add it to the list of applets in the Add to Panel app?
[12:22] <ashzilla> czer323: it said one md5checksum failed
[12:22] <ashzilla> press any keey to reboot
[12:22] <ashzilla> what windows ap should I use for burning?
[12:22] <ashzilla> maybe ill try again
[12:22] <czer323> ashzilla> just burn slower.
[12:22] <ashzilla> i burned at 4x
[12:22] <oskude> swashbucklinstev: "custom application launcher" ?
[12:23] <eclipse75> heh 4x is pretty slow
[12:23] <eclipse75> whats the speed of the burner?
[12:23] <czer323> ashzilla> if you think it's a cd issue with the disc itself, that's the only thing you can do other than buy MORE cds.
[12:23] <swashbucklinstev> oskude: yeah, spose I could, just wish I could add it to the list now
[12:23] <proj> hey all. Would someone help to clarify how to set the mtu in /etc/interfaces for an interface that is brought up using dhcp?
[12:24] <czer323> enquest, honestly never tried it. sorry
[12:24] <oskude> swashbucklinstev: the "list" contains gnome panel apps, is that one ? (that you compiled)
[12:24] <proj> I have to set it low due problems with ftp and I can manually using ifconfig
[12:24] <Dimensions> czer323:  sorry was away ... well i have tried ubuntu and RHEL 4 both are having only 16 dongles support ...
[12:24] <proj> but I can't figure out what the syntax is for /etc/interfaces
[12:24] <swashbucklinstev> oskude: si, tis
[12:25] <czer323> Dimensions, have you thought about the issue being the USB hubs?
[12:25] <cpk2> ashzilla: have you checked the iso before burning it?
[12:25] <oskude> Dimensions: how about power usage ? does usb(1.1/2?) have enough power for all those in one port ?
[12:25] <rambo3> proj man interfaces
[12:25] <bear> tomB
[12:25] <swashbucklinstev> oskude: using Custom App Launcher is fine too though
[12:26] <proj> rambo3:  according to that though, I can't set mtu for an interface brought up using dhcp. However I can set it using ifconfig so I assume that it is possible
[12:26] <bear> speak wher german her??
[12:26] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have used them with different hubs some of them doesn't require any additional power
[12:26] <kemik> ashzilla: try the CD disc in your friends computer.. that way youll know if it's the DISC or the DRIVE
[12:27] <oskude> Dimensions: i dont know how much power you get from usb port, and howmuch your 16+ dongles use... check that and sum it up...
[12:27] <bear> german hear??
[12:27] <oskude> !de
[12:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:27] <enquest> Is there somewhere a pakket for openwengo 2.x
[12:28] <michaelk> Hi, I use an American keyboard but sometimes I have to type some special Danish characters. Is there some way to make, say, F5,F6 and F7 represent these characters?
[12:28] <michaelk> Any configuration file?
[12:28] <proj> michaelk: I imagine it would be some where in the xorg.conf .. but I"m not very knowledgable of these tings
[12:28] <Dimensions> czer323:  we have many different types of usb hubs as we deal with dongles and usbs ...i have used same usbs with 4 each support and with more than 4 support one aswell ... but none works .... besides that i have used them with Laptops different ones Desktops and Mac mini and Aopen mini machines ... same is the case with all so i guess there must be some kernel setting or some thing to increase support ...
[12:28] <proj> *thinhgs
[12:28] <oskude> michaelk: "xmodmap" is the tool, but i forgot the syntax...
[12:28] <Arcad3> can someone give some details about this:ef4ce60654d75c40415ed44db0460e94??
[12:28] <proj> *things
[12:29] <oskude> Arcad3: seems like a md5sum or just random character... or what ever...
[12:29] <halex-ab> Arcad3, you got yourself some hash there..
[12:29] <michaelk> Thanks. I'll ask my friend Google about xmodmap :-)
[12:29] <rambo3> proj maby pre-up ifconfig mtu
[12:29] <Arcad3> and how to decrypt it?
[12:30] <halex-ab> Now there's a task for you to find out yourself..
[12:30] <proj> rambo3: so if I understand you correctly:     iface wlan0 inet dhcp <RET><TAB> pre-up ifconfig mtu
[12:30] <proj> or something like that
[12:30] <halex-ab> If it's SHA, you're out of luck..
[12:30] <oskude> Arcad3: decrypt what ? if you dont even know what it is ?
[12:30] <czer323> Dimensions, I'll ask this again... If this is a problem with Linux or the kernel.. A software based issue, then you should be able to boot to say, Windows... and it'll work.
[12:30] <Arcad3> ogh
[12:30] <czer323> Dimensions, so, is that something you've tried?
[12:31] <Arcad3> some tips please?
[12:31] <rambo3> proj,  you are using that than its iwconfig , but i dont know if there is setting for mtu in iwconfig
[12:31] <czer323> Dimensions, Because there's not really anything that I think linux has to do with this.  I mean, it may.  I'm not perfect, I dont' always know... but it's my gut.
[12:31] <proj> rambo3: :) its already a less then ideal internet connection on a wireless usb router.
[12:32] <halex-ab> Arcad3, that's outside of the topic of this channel - if you want some more information on how to crack hashes, Google it..
[12:32] <rambo3> and its iface wlan0 inte dhcp  (next row /tab) pre-up
[12:33] <Arcad3> its from ubuntu
[12:33] <Arcad3> its on my site
[12:33] <proj> rambo3: thanks for the help. here goes nothing! later.
[12:33] <Arcad3> i think is a hacker
[12:34] <halex-ab> Arcad3, if you can give me a link, maybe I could help you in the context of what the issue really is..
[12:36] <ashzilla> woot
[12:36] <proj> rambo3: that worked thanks. I had to put it in post-up instead.
[12:36] <ashzilla> so it appears i made it to installation
[12:36] <ashzilla> i hope it works
[12:36] <rambo3> good
[12:36] <czer323> ashzilla, winxp or ubuntu cd?
[12:37] <hockyhair> what is the cmd to show all current remote connections?
[12:37] <ashzilla> czer323: this one is actually xubuntu
[12:37] <czer323> how much ram?
[12:37] <syock> export GTK_PATH=/usr/lib32/gtk-2.0 should tell any apps to use lib32`s gtk2 right? Why is my app still finding at /usr/lib/gtk ?
[12:37] <ashzilla> 512
[12:39] <hockyhair> what is a cmd that will show all current remote connections?
[12:40] <oskude> syock: maybe cause the program was compiled to use that path...
[12:40] <ShadeT> netstat
[12:41] <hockyhair> kthx
[12:41] <ashzilla> AAAAARG!
[12:41] <hockyhair> happen to know of a volume applet i could use with pypanel
[12:41] <ashzilla> This is so frustrating
[12:42] <OzzFan> how do i change charset on #ubuntu ?
[12:42] <hockyhair> any volume applet will work i just dont know the names, i want something i can control the vol with
[12:42] <swashbucklinstev> OzzFan: Chain letters?
[12:43] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[12:43] <_steven__> Need help. I just did usermod -G newgroup and it through me out of all other groups, cannot sudo anymore. is there a way to recover?
[12:43] <oskude> hockyhair: doesnt the homepage of pypanel got any list of applets ?
[12:43] <jacquesdupontd> a fucking crazy thing happened to me
[12:43] <hockyhair> oskude: no
[12:43] <jacquesdupontd> when i boot
[12:43] <jacquesdupontd> i have no inittab file found , enter run level
[12:43] <hockyhair> im gonna figure out how to key bind vol controls, that would work even better
[12:43] <jacquesdupontd> and i tried every run levels and it tells me no more processes found for this run level
[12:43] <hockyhair> ok guys, thanks for the help esp netstat
[12:43] <hockyhair> pz!
[12:43] <jacquesdupontd> you think it's dead ?
[12:44] <jacquesdupontd> i was obliged to boot on winxp to come here to have some help
[12:44] <ashzilla> how can i check md5sums?
[12:44] <jacquesdupontd> ive managed to find a soft that can read ext3 partitions
[12:44] <jacquesdupontd> and im backuping my home
[12:44] <ashzilla> to make sure i got the right file
[12:44] <oskude> ashzilla: md5sum file.name
[12:44] <ashzilla> pskude, im in windows burning in the installation cd
[12:45] <mypapitfx> reb00t!!!
[12:45] <swashbucklinstev> how do I convince Totem to play DVD's?
[12:45] <variant> talisein: ashzilla put the file and the md5 checksum in the same dir and run md5sum /path/to/filename
[12:45] <tucoz> Hi, my LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH is somehow set to the wrong directory. If i run export | grep LIBGL i get declare -x LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH="/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/". Does anyone know how to set this to the right directory?
[12:45] <oskude> ashzilla: i think the ubuntu info on the download page got some tools for windows...
[12:45] <variant> ashzilla put the file and the md5 checksum in the same dir and run md5sum /path/to/filename
[12:46] <variant> tk: hi mate, sorry i went back to bed (on holiday and gf made me get up early :P) did you make progress?
[12:46] <oskude> ashzilla: it links to here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:47] <rambo3> why export libs , why dont you add them to /etc/ld.so.conf and do ldconfig
[12:47] <tucoz> rambo3, for me?
[12:47] <rambo3> yeah
[12:47] <tucoz> i don't know. I haven't made this myself
[12:47] <tucoz> it might be the fglrx drivers i've had in the past that set this option
[12:47] <variant> tk: i can help you with the bus id's etc
[12:48] <czer323> !dvd
[12:48] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:48] <rambo3> tucoz , ubuntu edgy ?
[12:48] <tucoz> yes
[12:48] <tucoz> I've read similar reports from dapper as well
[12:49] <tucoz> that when you run glxinfo, r300_dri.so is set to be in the same path as me
[12:49] <tucoz> mine
[12:49] <tucoz> but it is in the wrong directory
[12:49] <tucoz> or rather, another directory
[12:49] <rambo3> i havent , but i couldent get fglrx to run on first knot and i have been using radeon since then , untill stable
[12:49] <tucoz> Yes, I run radeon as well
[12:50] <exmethix> hi @ all
[12:50] <exmethix> i need help
[12:51] <exmethix> iam running edgy
[12:51] <exmethix> like to install a gtk2 theme
[12:51] <oskude> !edgy
[12:51] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:51] <exmethix> but all my themes that where working with dapper are not looking like before
[12:51] <exmethix> ah
[12:52] <rambo3> radeon driver and gxlgears : 13133 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2626.470 FPS
[12:53] <_steven__> help! sudo doesn't work anymore, do i have to reinstall?
[12:53] <eclipse75> ahh now have wmv support =) much better
[12:54] <eclipse75> _steven__: you never have to reinstall
[12:54] <tucoz> rambo3, you have an idea where the LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH is exported, so that i can set it straight?
[12:54] <oskude> !work > _steven__
[12:54] <rambo3> _steven__, login reconvery mode ad add your self to sudoers
[12:54] <eclipse75> just figure out what went wrong and fix it :)
[12:54] <variant> _steven__: try running dpkg-reconfigure sudo
[12:55] <variant> _steven__: if you removed your only user from the sudoers file and you dont know hte root password that could be a slight problem but is simple enough to fix
[12:55] <bun-bun> is anyone running ubuntu with an ATI radeon x800 (agp) card?
[12:55] <siri_> hi all
[12:55] <eclipse75> hi
[12:55] <siri_> i am a newbee
[12:56] <siri_> i had recently installed.. ubuntu
[12:56] <siri_> i am not getting any sound
[12:56] <eclipse75> well if you learn how to use linux, youll find out why its better
[12:56] <infidel> heloo newbe
[12:56] <siri_> can any one help me
[12:56] <_steven__> thank you, i forgot about the recovery mode, i'll try that
[12:56] <rambo3> tuzoc maby man ldconf can help . dont know more
[12:56] <siri_> no sound.. here.. after installing ubuntu
[12:57] <rambo3> man ldconfig
[12:57] <tucoz> rambo3, ok. thanks
[12:57] <infidel> siri_, are you muted?
[12:57] <siri_> nope i think
[12:57] <bun-bun> if anyone is using a radeon x800 pro card, i'm interested to know what drivers you are using
[12:57] <berent> siri : check if u r mute
[12:58] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i set the hostname of my ubuntu box?
[12:58] <siri_> berent: no
[12:58] <oskude> !hostname > Lunar_Lamp
[12:58] <tk> variant: no, I  didnt... i did find out that if I let the screen save kick in (power save) it disables the devices again...
[12:58] <berent> siri : do u have sound device
[12:58] <tk> I think I may have fractured my finger :( (or 2) on each hand :/
[12:59] <siri_> :(
[12:59] <tk> brb
[01:00] <variant> tk: very unfortunate :(
[01:00] <\pub\bash0r> hi
[01:01] <btbytes> how does one install "Shopt" program on ubuntu ?
[01:02] <\pub\bash0r> I have a problem with shorewall ... I just upgraded my server from breezy to dapper. My networkinterface eth2 is bridged with tap0 and tap1 into br0. It worked fine on breezy, but on dapper I get the following error when starting shorewall:
[01:02] <\pub\bash0r> Activating Rules...
[01:02] <\pub\bash0r> iptables v1.3.3: host/network `eth2' not found
[01:02] <\pub\bash0r> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[01:02] <\pub\bash0r>    ERROR: Command "/sbin/iptables -A ppp0_fwd -s 0.0.0.0/0 -o br0 -d eth2 -j net2loc" Failed
[01:02] <\pub\bash0r> does anyone has an idea what is going wrong?
[01:03] <rambo3>  host/network `eth2' not found
[01:03] <siri_> ubotu: sound
[01:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:03] <swashbucklinstev> I get an error message from Totem asking if I'm trying to play a dvd without libdvdcss, I tried searching for libdvdcss in synaptics but to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions?
[01:03] <\pub\bash0r> rambo3: haha
[01:03] <\pub\bash0r> ofcourse this interface is available - I use it currently otherwise I would be offline ;)
[01:04] <siri_> ubotu: ubotu
[01:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:04] <rambo3> are you shure its not maped to some other eth like eth1
[01:04] <tk> variant: I'm back
[01:04] <\pub\bash0r> ifconfig: eth2      Link encap:Ethernet
[01:05] <mabus> Can I use a modified environment variable when calling a command (like say from a shell script run by crontab) without having it change that variable for other use?
[01:05] <mabus> ie: make something use a proxy but not have everything I do use it
[01:06] <variant> tk: what you do to your finger?
[01:06] <Ayabara> anyone here who know their way around vmware player?
[01:07] <tk> variant: keeper in football/soccer
[01:07] <variant> Ayabara: whats to know? it doesnt get much simpler
[01:07] <Ayabara> I have downloaded and started up an ubuntu 6.06 vmware image. Problem is that / is only set to 2,6GB, which is way too little. Is there a way I can increase this size?
[01:07] <porkpie_> Hi guy's is there a wiki on how to create a ubuntu install cd
[01:08] <porkpie_> I have a custom kernel for the dell 1950 and I want to create an install cd
[01:08] <variant> tk: I am just wreastling with an iboo g4 and sound support on ubuntu right now _(microphone wont work) back in 30 mins or so
[01:08] <jacquesdupontd__> hey
[01:08] <jacquesdupontd__> nobody know what i can do after a problem that says
[01:08] <jacquesdupontd__> no inittab file found
[01:08] <jacquesdupontd__> enter run level , and answer is always no more process founds
[01:08] <variant> porkpie_: if you have a system installed allready you can turn it into a live cd/dvd with linux-live.org scripts
[01:08] <Ayabara> variant, need to increase the size of / on a downloaded vmware application
[01:08] <tk> variant: no biggy, I'll probably have to catch you tommorow, gonna go have a few drinks and try and relax
[01:09] <variant> tk: ok mate
[01:09] <variant> tk: have a good evening
[01:09] <oskude> porkpie_: i think easier would be to make a deb package from that kernel, and install it after "standard" ubuntu...
[01:09] <porkpie_> variant:that the problem ...I don't have a system
[01:10] <whyameye> porkpie_: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[01:10] <porkpie_> cool thanks
[01:16] <rofl0r> what package do i need for apache2-mysql ? wasnt it mod-mysql ?
[01:16] <wrabbit^> hello
[01:17] <ashzilla> how can i manually check for errors
[01:17] <ashzilla> like ubuntu would after 30 boots...
[01:17] <tk> variant:  you too, :) good luck with the ibook
[01:17] <kyja> is there a realy good backup utility that I can simply span everything onto RW+-DVD's ?
[01:17] <malice> How do you spoof your ip. in Ubuntu?
[01:18] <wrabbit^> ohhh ibook :)
[01:18] <wrabbit^> yum
[01:18] <wrabbit^> Just out of curiosity, which desktop env are people running in here?
[01:18] <kyja> more than likly ubuntu :/
[01:19] <malice> win 3.1
[01:19] <malice> :)
[01:19] <kyja> hehe
[01:19] <wrabbit^> hehe, I mean, KDE/Gnome/Xfce
[01:19] <wrabbit^> or the other ice one I can't think of atm
[01:19] <malice> gnome
[01:19] <UK_Bloke> ashzilla - try 'e2fsck' to check a file system
[01:19] <malice> holy updates
[01:19] <mabus> Can I use a modified environment variable when calling a command (like say from a shell script run by crontab) without having it change that variable for other use?
[01:19] <wrabbit^> hehe
[01:20] <mabus> I always do a server install and then later put fluxbox on
[01:20] <oskude> mabus: if you modify (or add) a environment variable on the terminal, its for that user, and only so long as you stop that terminal session
[01:20] <malice> Does anyone know how to spoof there ip in Ubuntu?
[01:21] <mabus> oskude: so if a bash script called by crontab did that it would only last for the script's length? or if it was called from a perl script?
[01:22] <oskude> mabus: as i said, it last as long the terminal session is on (afaik)
[01:22] <physicsnick> wowza, i'm updating to edgy and getting a flood of warnings
[01:22] <mabus> oskude: I thought there was a way to set an env variable and call a program with that variable in one command, though
[01:22] <oskude> !edgy > physicsnick
[01:22] <physicsnick> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_CA:en" are supported and installed on your system.
[01:22] <wrabbit^> I'm off Xfce.  After hours of messing with with the driver .conf file, I could only get 60hz to work in gnome.  apt-get installing KDE atm.  1 hour at 55kb/s :(
[01:22] <physicsnick> ...
[01:22] <physicsnick> oskude, what was the point of that?
[01:22] <physicsnick> it told me absolutely nothing
[01:23] <oskude> mabus: sure
[01:23] <wrabbit^> I might look into flufbox
[01:23] <oskude> physicsnick: yours using edgy...
[01:23] <physicsnick> yes, and?
[01:23] <oskude> physicsnick: edgy has its own channel
[01:23] <physicsnick> ah
[01:23] <mabus> !edgy
[01:23] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:23] <kyja> ooow
[01:24] <kyja> !schedule
[01:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:24] <physicsnick> i joined #edgy and found no one, so i figured i should just come here
[01:24] <physicsnick> thanks
[01:24] <wrabbit^> oskude: I was stuck in the command line and couldn't start X.  Eventually got the res and refresh rate working for gnome but it wouldn't show up for xfce.  So I cracked it :)
[01:24] <bony> can anyone tell me  how the command "resize MINOR START END" should look like in parted prompt? i want to resize and get a new partition whose size must be 10GB.
[01:24] <\pub\bash0r> does noone has an idea regarding my shorewall problem? :(
[01:24] <oskude> wrabbit^: aha...
[01:25] <kyja> is there a realy good backup utility that I can simply span everything onto RW+-DVD's ?
[01:25] <wrabbit^> oskude: so I'm gonna give kde a go.  If I can make it as simple as xfce, I'll be happy.  I just want something that won't get in the way with flashy gfx
[01:25] <physicsnick> kde>*
[01:26] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: From what I've seen, it's all lights and flashy transitions.  Can you customize all that with ease?
[01:26] <physicsnick> wrabbit^, i was just about to say, the best thing about kde is the configuration
[01:26] <wrabbit^> sweet
[01:26] <physicsnick> it's ironic that gnome is supposed to be simpler, and yet to accomplish anything in gnome you have to break out the config files
[01:26] <physicsnick> kde has all sorts of configuration utilities
[01:27] <norber> hello
[01:27] <norber>  i have a laptop and i buy a card audio usb. I want listen a song (example dover) by the two cards audio. Is possible?
[01:27] <physicsnick> anyway the whole motivation behind kde is that it's configurable
[01:27] <wrabbit^> sounds, good.  Glad I'm downloading the 200 + mb package then
[01:27] <physicsnick> hehe, well if you're installing kubuntu-desktop it might be a little screwy
[01:27] <oskude> physicsnick: very configurable!
[01:27] <physicsnick> i tried that and instead just formatted it and installed kubuntu native
[01:28] <wrabbit^> I just put in, sudo apt-get install kde
[01:28] <physicsnick> oh
[01:28] <physicsnick> um
[01:28] <physicsnick> i think you might want to install kubuntu-desktop instead of kde
[01:28] <physicsnick> i'm not sure
[01:28] <wrabbit^> that's what I did with xfce; sudo apt-get install xfce.  Thought it might apply
[01:28] <physicsnick> ah
[01:29] <lara_> la
[01:29] <lara_> hola
[01:29] <martijn> Hey, I just installed the package gnochm (chm viewer) from synaptic, and when I run it I get this error: "You do not have all of the required Python modules to run gnochm. ... could not import gtk"
[01:29] <norber> hola lara
[01:29] <physicsnick> well if that worked for xfce, it will probably work for kde. thing is kubuntu comes with a bunch of kde-specific apps that 'install kde' won't install for you
[01:29] <vanhtu1987> Hi, will anyone answer this question please: How come I've got no coloring in vim ? If I manually build it from source then it works.
[01:29] <martijn> I have python-gtk2 installed though
[01:29] <wrabbit^> if this gives me too much hassle, I'm trying freeBSD. lol... if I'm gonna freak out over an OS, it may as well be one that actually is hard to use
[01:29] <physicsnick> hahaha
[01:30] <physicsnick> yeah, kde is great
[01:30] <martijn> What can I do?
[01:30] <oskude> martijn: findout what version of pythong gtk it wants
[01:31] <wrabbit^> I thought vim didn't use block colours etc.
[01:32] <u0744347> x
[01:32] <\pub\bash0r> really noone here with enough knowledge of shorewall to help me?
[01:32] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: well that's worrying.  the kde-specific apps aren't exactly needed though are they?
[01:32] <vanhtu1987> wrabbit^: What do you mean by 'block colours' ? vi/vim has coloring support by default if I installed from source, but the shipped version of vim in Ubuntu does not.
[01:33] <martijn> oskude: In the readme it says pygtk2 is needed
[01:33] <wrabbit^> vanhtu1987: yes, coloring support.  Didn't think it had it.  Try DrPython.
[01:33] <martijn> version >= 1.9.12
[01:34] <martijn> I've got version 2.8.6
[01:34] <wrabbit^> would sudo apt-cach search pygtk2 work?
[01:34] <Zv_oDD> i'm installing xubuntu and i'm not sure how i should partiotion my HDD
[01:34] <wrabbit^> are you running anything else Zv_oDD?
[01:34] <oskude> martijn: hmm... you better surf the makers site for help...
[01:34] <Zv_oDD> nah just dingle boot
[01:35] <wrabbit^> Zv_oDD: then go default
[01:35] <Zv_oDD> well i got 2 HDDs one is 10gb and other is 100
[01:36] <gunfus> This is going to sound silly
[01:36] <martijn> oskude: I'm thinking this is a bug in the gnochm packaging
[01:36] <martijn> Should I file a bug report on this?
[01:36] <vanhtu1987> wrabbit^: :-/ Huh ? That's the main reason I've been using Vim. In Ubuntu forums someone suggested creating a .vimrc and manually specifying the coloring rules. If I build it, it automatically works by default.
[01:36] <physicsnick> wrabbit^, as far as i know the apps aren't
[01:36] <vanhtu1987> Ok thanks, I'll try looking for a config file in /etc.
[01:36] <physicsnick> wrabbit^, you should be fine
[01:36] <gunfus> but I am a newbie in concatanating shell commands
[01:37] <cpk2> Zv_oDD: you might be able to put / on the 10g =P
[01:37] <cpk2> and then /home on the 100
[01:37] <Zv_oDD> i want to share root across the two dives
[01:37] <wrabbit^> vanhtu1987: sorry, can't help you then.  I've never used it
[01:37] <gunfus> I want to be able to erase all files that are giving out by: find ./ -name *.*~
[01:38] <vanhtu1987> Np :) thanks for replying anyway.
[01:38] <gunfus> so i would do: find ./ -name *.*~ && rm ..? (this didn't work)
[01:38] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: good to hear.  I guess I'll find out in 37 minutes
[01:38] <gunfus> I tried piping
[01:38] <gunfus> that didn't work either
[01:38] <cpk2> Zv_oDD: err why?
[01:38] <darkanyel> anyone can help me?
[01:38] <physicsnick> wrabbit^, if anything goes wrong you can just log into gnome instead and fix it
[01:39] <gunfus> darkanyel: Just ask the question
[01:39] <physicsnick> or not log into x at all, just go straight to a terminal
[01:39] <Zv_oDD> is it ok if a put a 1gb swap partion at the start of my 100GB hhd and then make the rest ext3 and then somhow mount both drives as /
[01:39] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: very true. :) Fingers crossed that I get the right res and refresh rate in kde
[01:39] <darkanyel> gunfus, wwll, i wanna know how make thunar as defaut explorer
[01:39] <oskude> martijn: where did you got it ? i cant find it with apt-cache...
[01:39] <wrabbit^> yah, I was in terminal for ages before.  Very intimidating
[01:39] <physicsnick> wrabbit^,  isn't that stuff set before you even log in?
[01:40] <physicsnick> the resolution i mean
[01:40] <Zv_oDD> should i just leave the 10gb drive completley unused?
[01:40] <cpk2> Zv_oDD: but why would you want / to span 2 hdd?
[01:40] <gunfus> darkanyel: System > Preferences > Prefered Applications
[01:40] <Zv_oDD> well i am not sure wat todo with these two drives
[01:40] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: The reason I'm changing to kde is because after hours of messing with the driver .conf, I could only get the right res and ref in gnome and not xfce so I dunno.  Drivers have some iddues
[01:40] <wrabbit^> issues*
[01:40] <martijn> oskude: I got it from universe
[01:40] <cpk2> normally one puts data on them
[01:41] <physicsnick> Zv_oDD, you can just mount the second hard drive under /media/data
[01:41] <martijn> Simply through synaptic
[01:41] <gunfus> Anyone,..? I want to be able to erase all files that are giving out by: find ./ -name *.*~
[01:41] <physicsnick> or /media/whatever
[01:41] <oskude> martijn: whats the package name ?
[01:41] <martijn> gnochm
[01:41] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: I'd install on the 10g and mount the second drive
[01:41] <physicsnick> ?
[01:41] <wrabbit^> wrong nick
[01:41] <physicsnick> :)
[01:41] <oskude> martijn: got a link to chm i can test ?
[01:41] <darkanyel> gunfus, but i can change there the nautilus
[01:42] <darkanyel> gunfus, i wanna change nautilus with thunar
[01:42] <cpk2> i am not sure how much space / could end up using though
[01:42] <wrabbit^> Zv_oDD: : I'd install on the 10g and mount the second drive
[01:42] <Zv_oDD> Soo just install linux on the 10gb and mount the 100gb for storage in /media/
[01:42] <martijn> oskude, it also gives that error simply starting it from the terminal
[01:42] <jenda> does GAIM 2 use unicode by default?
[01:42] <cpk2> so 10gB might not be enough later
[01:42] <Zv_oDD> ok
[01:42] <physicsnick> Zv_oDD, don't mount it under /media
[01:42] <gunfus> darkanyel: ohhh hmmmm that I am not sure
[01:42] <wrabbit^> 10g is plenty
[01:42] <physicsnick> mount it as /media/<something>
[01:42] <gunfus> darkanyel: sorry dude..
[01:42] <oskude> martijn: hmm, not here... seems to work...
[01:42] <physicsnick> because other things are also in media, ie cdrom floppy etc
[01:42] <cpk2> Zv_oDD: if you install on the 10gB set the 100gB as .home
[01:42] <gunfus> darkanyel: keep on asking
[01:42] <darkanyel> gunfus, no problem
[01:42] <gunfus> maybe someone else knows
[01:43] <physicsnick> Zv_oDD, the installer will ask you where to mount it and it will do it for you
[01:43] <cpk2> i meant /home
[01:43] <darkanyel> i wanna change nautilus with thunar, anyoneknow how?
[01:43] <martijn> I just checked - the package python-gtk2 only installs files in /usr/share/doc. Apparently it is only the documentation for the bindings
[01:43] <Zv_oDD> ok
[01:43] <wrabbit^> wow, Antitrust is on. Fancy that
[01:43] <Zv_oDD> thanks
[01:43] <physicsnick> Zv_oDD, yeah mounting it as /home is probably a better option
[01:43] <oskude> martijn: as i said, gnochm works here... are you using "pure" dapper ?
[01:44] <Florob> darkanyel: If you wan't to exchange it (completely) in gnome, that is not going to work, it is to tightly integrated (e.g. it displays you desktop etc.)
[01:44] <cpk2> Zv_oDD: /home by itself also as the benefit if you decide to change distro or your system fails you keep all your stuff
[01:44] <cpk2> has*
[01:45] <darkanyel> Florob, no i dont want uninstall nautilus, i just wanna open my folders with thunar by default
[01:46] <gunfus> darkanyel: Why don't you add an options.. that is the thing.. is tightly integrated..
[01:46] <oskude> darkanyel: open from where ?
[01:46] <gunfus> darkanyel: I mean add a menu option
[01:47] <gunfus> darkanyel: even in windows.. explorer is tightly integrated.. can you even change the default explorer?
[01:47] <darkanyel> i done that, but every time that i open a folder with 2 clicks it open nautilus
[01:48] <physicsnick> darkanyel, well where are you looking at these folders?
[01:48] <oskude> darkanyel: from where ? from nautilus ? pretty obvious that it opens nautilus from nautilus, not ?
[01:48] <gunfus> darkanyel: so if you double click a folder on thunar it opens nautilus.. hmm that sounds more of a thunar problem
[01:48] <physicsnick> chances are you're looking at them in nautilus
[01:48] <Zv_oDD> umm, is there a way i can mount it to /home and to /media/somthing
[01:48] <darkanyel> ahahaha
[01:48] <gunfus> darkanyel: if you double click on a icon in the desktop.. well that will open nautilus because it is nautilyus
[01:48] <Zv_oDD> latter on in the fstab or somthing...?
[01:48] <physicsnick> Zv_oDD, you can mount it as /home and create a link to /home in /media/something... but why would you want to?
[01:49] <darkanyel> oskude, u are right
[01:49] <gunfus> darkanyel: the desktop is all nautilus based
[01:49] <martijn> oskude: on a suggestion from somebody on #gnome, I ran 'python -c "import gtk"'. I get this result: http://pastebin.ca/191803.
[01:49] <wrabbit^> Zv_oDD: I guess if you create the folder and just mount it to that path, sure. Don't quote me though
[01:49] <martijn> And yes, it is a fresh dapper install
[01:49] <darkanyel> ys, but isnt a way???
[01:49] <Zv_oDD> could i mount it to /media/somthing then make /home a link?
[01:49] <wrabbit^> Yes, what physicsnick said. What the hell do I know
[01:50] <Florob> darkanyel: at least in edgy i have seen that if you right-click a folder in nautlilus you can say "open with thunar" maybe there is a way to make this a default, but i wouldn't know how
[01:50] <physicsnick> Zv_oDD, no, you can't do that
[01:50] <oskude> martijn: "undefined symbol: cairo_surface_write_to_png_stream" hmm, maybe youre missing some python/cairo png librarys...
[01:50] <gunfus> darkanyel: from what others are saying.. no. and if you think about it.. no. The whole desktop is nautilus based with the gnome-bar-panels
[01:50] <physicsnick> if you don't mount it as home to begin with, you'll get a /home on your 10g
[01:50] <fu-k-t> hi
[01:50] <physicsnick> why do you want it in /media at all?
[01:51] <gunfus> gunfus: I guess you can sew nautilus for being its prefered app :D
[01:51] <frogzoo> Zv_oDD: if you want your home directory to be something other than /home, you can change it in /etc/passwd
[01:51] <darkanyel> i think that i have to install xubuntu
[01:51] <fu-k-t> i have 3 computers running ubuntu, soon to be 4
[01:51] <darkanyel> :S
[01:51] <fu-k-t> and i am wondering if there's a way i can only download the updates for each computer once
[01:51] <gunfus> darkanyel: Yeah.. if you want to customize your enviroment then maybe that is an option
[01:51] <wrabbit^> darkanyel: just apt-get install xfce
[01:51] <fu-k-t> rather than downloading 4 seperate copies
[01:51] <gunfus> shoot time to go to work
[01:51] <Zv_oDD> I dont see why i can just turn /home into a link
[01:51] <wrabbit^> it doesn't take long
[01:52] <fu-k-t> because especially on first install, it takes forever
[01:52] <wrabbit^> sorry, it's sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:52] <wrabbit^> not xfce
[01:52] <Alakazam_> no
[01:52] <Alakazam_> its sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <wrabbit^> sudo apt-get install xfce4 worked fine for me
[01:53] <frogzoo> Zv_oDD: I think that will probably work for most things
[01:53] <Alakazam_> yeah, it'll work... but its not going to give you everything xubuntu has to offer.
[01:53] <wrabbit^> ah right
[01:53] <Alakazam_> ;)
[01:53] <physicsnick> wait
[01:53] <Hattori> hello, any good step by step guide to install linux after have installed last release of ubuntu?
[01:53] <Hattori> ...
[01:53] <wrabbit^> I guess the same applies for KDE
[01:53] <Hattori> i mean
[01:53] <wrabbit^> goddamit
[01:53] <wrabbit^> -d
[01:53] <Alakazam_> Hattori, if you've installed ubuntu then linux is installed
[01:53] <Hattori> hello, any good step by step guide to install windows after have installed last release of ubuntu?
[01:53] <Hattori> ;}
[01:54] <Alakazam_> yes wrabbit^ you'd "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:54] <Hattori> to have a dual boot
[01:54] <physicsnick> if you apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, it will replace some ubuntu stuff as well, like it will say "xubuntu" when you boot
[01:54] <wrabbit^> Alakazam_: too late for that :P
[01:54] <wrabbit^> 20 minutes to go
[01:54] <Alakazam_> hehe
[01:54] <jtickle> someone broke Mono last night
[01:54] <variant> anyone know if a 3d rage pro is better than a geforce 2 mx ?
[01:54] <Alakazam_> yeah physicsnick i noticed that too
[01:54] <jtickle> I installed updates then went to bed
[01:54] <Alakazam_> kinda annoying
[01:54] <Alakazam_> you can change that easily though
[01:54] <jtickle> this morning, no Mono app will run
[01:54] <jtickle> they just freeze when ya try
[01:54] <Lunar_Lamp> Hattori - linux is a core of an operating system, and ubuntu is a distribution of that - it adds programs and graphics and makes it useable.  there are lots of other 'distro's' but ubuntu is just one of them, and is "linux"
[01:54] <physicsnick> variant, last i recall it is slightly. they're both terrible cards
[01:55] <jtickle> this is version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3.1
[01:55] <siri_> ubotu: java
[01:55] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:55] <Alakazam_> Hattori, why didnt you install windows 1st
[01:55] <Alakazam_> that would have been the smart thing to do
[01:55] <jtickle> is there a way I can :downgrade" to 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3?
[01:55] <Hattori> ya
[01:55] <Hattori> but not me
[01:55] <Hattori> my brother..
[01:55] <Alakazam_> okay
[01:55] <physicsnick> Hattori, the best way to dual boot is to install first
[01:55] <Hattori> and seems he wants both now
[01:55] <variant> Hattori: linux is a kernel, GNU is the userspace tools, ubuntu,gentoo,debian,slackware,redhat are the distrobutions
[01:56] <Lunar_Lamp> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Installing_windows_AFTER_Linux
[01:56] <physicsnick> it might be difficult to install windows now because you may need to install windows and then install grub
[01:56] <Hattori> hey, i just typed bad ;}
[01:56] <Alakazam_> you'll have to install windows on a seperate partition then modify grub to know windows is bootable.
[01:56] <Hattori> i meant windows not linux
[01:56] <Alakazam_> Why are you using windows anyway.
[01:56] <Lunar_Lamp> Hattori http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Installing_windows_AFTER_Linux
[01:56] <undac0va> i may not be in the right place... but where is the best info available on how to install files, i.e programs like firefox etc.. i am a complete newbie!
[01:56] <Alakazam_> Ubuntu is the 1st linux desktop ive used that i can say is actually READY for home use in every way.
[01:56] <physicsnick> undac0va, click Applications -> Add Applications, then check off firefox :p
[01:56] <wrabbit^> Alakazam_: from what I've heard, openSuse isn't toobad
[01:57] <wrabbit^> and pclinusos
[01:57] <darkanyel> which is better gnome or xfce??
[01:57] <wrabbit^> x
[01:57] <wrabbit^> xfce is great if you're after simplicity
[01:57] <wrabbit^> gnome is slightly bloated imo
[01:57] <undac0va> <- stupid..  hmm, and i dont seem to be able to change my resolution at all... even tho the driver installed seems to be correct.. any ideas?
[01:58] <\pub\bash0r> is now someone here who has an idea regarding my problem? (description here: http://aksdb.homeip.net/shorewallproblem.html)
[01:58] <darkanyel> but all my aplications gona run??, wrabbit^
[01:58] <oskude> wrabbit^: xfce is bloated too, use openbox :/
[01:58] <Alakazam_> wrabbit^, opensuse sucks in my eyes... suse sucks in my eyes period.
[01:58] <Alakazam_> its ugly, and VERY slow.
[01:58] <darkanyel> :?
[01:58] <Alakazam_> xfce isnt bloated compared to Gnome or KDE.
[01:58] <Alakazam_> clear
[01:59] <Alakazam_> ack
[01:59] <Alakazam_> fluxbox is the lick.
[01:59] <wrabbit^> darkanyel: I haven't installed xubuntu but xfce on ubuntu works fine bar a few driver issues from what I've noticed
[01:59] <physicsnick> kde is bloated?
[01:59] <wrabbit^> oskude: openbox eh... I'll check it out.
[01:59] <physicsnick> wrabbit^, xfce seems to have a few crash bugs
[01:59] <variant> wrabbit^: driver issues? the desktop environment has nothing to do with drivers at all
[01:59] <physicsnick> on my system, xfce completely hangs the machine on the 27 kernel
[01:59] <wrabbit^> I haven't noticed that.  I do know that it doesn't like gedit
[01:59] <physicsnick> variant, yes it does.
[02:00] <physicsnick> on my machine xfce hangs on 27, i have to use 26
[02:00] <darkanyel> im cofussed :....
[02:00] <physicsnick> no terminal window or anything. it hangs the machine completely
[02:00] <wrabbit^> ugh
[02:00] <variant> physicsnick: that has nothing to do with drivers.. unless your talking about graphics driver but really that is debatable'
[02:00] <physicsnick> variant, i suppose
[02:00] <variant> physicsnick: you tried the 4.4 dev release? its very good
[02:00] <physicsnick> variant, nah i tried latest dapper
[02:01] <physicsnick> i don't really use xfce, i just tried it for a while
[02:01] <darkanyel> with is the best gnome or xfce???
[02:01] <oskude> darkanyel: best is relative. period!
[02:01] <ubuntu_> hello people
[02:01] <oskude> darkanyel: try them both and see yourself
[02:01] <darkanyel> so... witch is better now
[02:01] <variant> physicsnick: try it on edgy.. its very very nice :) edgy in general is excellent actualy
[02:02] <physicsnick> yeah. i'm currently in the process of upgrading to edgy
[02:02] <physicsnick> apt-get crashed twice so far, so i'm a bit edgy on this whole upgrade *snicker*
[02:02] <Alakazam_> lol physicsnick
[02:02] <darkanyel> but in edgy i dont know how to install the ati driver....
[02:02] <Alakazam_> STOOPID!
[02:02] <martijn> oskude: thanks for your help. I can't figure this out though. I've tried reinstalling python2.4-cairo, but that doesn't fix it.
[02:02] <Alakazam_> :P
[02:03] <martijn> I'm going to give up on gnochm for now
[02:03] <oskude> martijn: good boy ;)
[02:04] <wrabbit^> 11 minutes till d-day
[02:05] <wrabbit^> or k-day I should say
[02:05] <martijn> What do you think, should I file a bug or is this something screwed up in my system only? I didn't do any manual installs or anything
[02:06] <Cypher87> simple question: is there a way to get the PID only from a given processname?
[02:06] <oskude> martijn: dunno, it works here with out errors.. but if you have good error/debug logs, a bugreport wouldnt hurt
[02:06] <oskude> Cypher87:  ps aux | grep firefox (but maybe ps can do that directly too)
[02:06] <wrabbit^> Who was it that said openSuSE is rubbish before?  Sorry, I've lost it
[02:07] <Cypher87> oskude, I only want the PID, no other information
[02:07] <Cypher87> if thats possible of course
[02:07] <oskude> Cypher87: everything is possiple :) just grep/whatever it more
[02:08] <Cypher87> hehe ok, will try ;)
[02:08] <physicsnick> wrabbit^, <Alakazam_> wrabbit^, opensuse sucks in my eyes... suse sucks in my eyes period.
 its ugly, and VERY slow.
[02:09] <Alakazam_> yes
[02:09] <Alakazam_> that is a fact
[02:09] <Alakazam_> its slow and sloppy
[02:09] <wrabbit^> cheers physicsnick
[02:09] <wrabbit^> You run any other distros Alakazam_?
[02:09] <oskude> Cypher87: here a noobish quick oneliner: ps -e | grep firefox | cut -d" " -f2
[02:09] <hockyhair> why would packages be held back during an apt-get upgrade?
[02:09] <Alakazam_> wrabbit^, i did run mandriva cooker.
[02:09] <Mirro> hello all!
[02:10] <Alakazam_> ive used fedora, slackware, gentoo, suse, mandriva, beos, freebsd
[02:10] <Alakazam_> and many others.
[02:10] <wrabbit^> ah, if that's anything like it's original mandrake, I like it.  Or is that the same thing
[02:10] <jtickle> word
[02:10] <Alakazam_> CentOS
[02:10] <wrabbit^> Alakazam_: freeBSD ... worth a try?  or only for the far more experienced
[02:10] <Cypher87> oskude, ty very much ^
[02:10] <Cypher87> ^^
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, no .. its very nice
[02:11] <Alakazam_> wrabbit^, it has shitty hardware support
[02:11] <Mirro> i have a quastion, i just loaded Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD, is there possibilitz to run xgl live too?
[02:11] <Alakazam_> other than that, its great
[02:11] <wrabbit^> yeah, I'd be wary about installing freeBSD on my thinkpad
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> Alakazam_, did you try during 5.x ?
[02:11] <Alakazam_> yeah wickedpuppy 5.2
[02:11] <physicsnick> Mirro, sure as far as i know. you don't need to reboot to install xgl, you just need to log out
[02:11] <physicsnick> if the livecd will let you do that, then you can do it
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> Alakazam_, 5 series was the worst .. they had a lead dev left them for another distro
[02:12] <Alakazam_> ick
[02:12] <physicsnick> Mirro, looking to install Beryl?
[02:12] <Alakazam_> i didnt know that.
[02:12] <snikker> how can i know how to wich device is connected my usb bluetooth pen?
[02:12] <Mirro> phzsicsnick, thx!
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, i know a friend with netbsd on its laptop for 3 years ....
[02:12] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: only the guys who know what they're doing say that.  Newcomers to linux, like me, wouldn't know what to do with the thing
[02:12] <Alakazam_> but still, that doesn't help their hardware support
[02:12] <Mirro> Beryl? no, dunno what it is
[02:12] <physicsnick> looking to install Compiz then?
[02:12] <hockyhair> i was told why ubuntu users are generally not advised to manually compile/install the kernel but i forget the reason
[02:12] <Mirro> no, i|m just plazing around so far
[02:12] <pty> Mirro: Beryl is a fork from compiz
[02:12] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: yeah, I've heard that netbsd is quite good but as a desktop/home use machine?  I dunno
[02:12] <physicsnick> yeah.
[02:13] <oskude> hockyhair: maybe cause they dont know what they are doing ?
[02:13] <Cypher87> gtg, cya
[02:13] <physicsnick> Mirro, why bother installing xgl if you're not going to install a 3d compositing window manager? :D
[02:13] <oskude> hockyhair: and its a lot easier to install from repo or from dapper deb package...
[02:13] <Alakazam_> http://www.pcbsd.org/
[02:14] <physicsnick> Mirro, http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-4861-1.html
[02:14] <hockyhair> oskude: ubuntu will keep kernel uptodate if you choose not to do it manually?
[02:14] <Mirro> ok, where can i get it? ))
[02:14] <Alakazam_> that looks promising
[02:14] <Mirro> ty
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> Alakazam_, bsd has very good portage system .. excellent
[02:15] <Alakazam_> yep
[02:15] <oskude> hockyhair: yes... (uptodate = fixing bugs)
[02:15] <physicsnick> Mirro, whenever it asks you to reboot, log out instead
[02:15] <Alakazam_> as long as your hardware had modules, you're alright.
[02:15] <physicsnick> other than that it should work
[02:15] <Alakazam_> brb
[02:15] <physicsnick> if you don't mind, send me a /msg after you do it to let me know if it works from the livecd, i'm curious
[02:16] <oskude> hockyhair: and that "self compiling" doesn just mean ubuntu, an all distros its better to use their package managers, after all, thats why they where invented...
[02:16] <Mirro> is it ok, that i cant read my HDD when loaded live ubuntu?
[02:17] <physicsnick> Mirro, yes. what filesystem is on it?
[02:17] <oskude> hockyhair: but there are programs that dont have packages or are in repos for ubuntu, so there the only way is to compile by yourself (and it really aint rocket-science)
[02:17] <wrabbit^> yeah, pcBSD does actually look pretty impressive. BSD for the home desktop
[02:17] <Alakazam_> man, kde's coming along nicely
[02:17] <zak_> any idea how to deal with this? dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 12317 package `eclipse-pde': missing version
[02:18] <Mirro> no idea, pre-installed WinXP..
[02:18] <zak_> apt [or dpkg?]  won't do anything, it just spits out that error [or an error that upon trying to fix gives that error] 
[02:18] <wrabbit^> Alakazam_: Was just saying, pcBSD actually looks like it could break into the home desktop
[02:18] <wrabbit^> i'd run it
[02:18] <Mirro> it says it cant mount it or sumthing
[02:18] <hockyhair> oskude: what about as far as security, i noticed that the current kernel package after doing update/upgrade is still older than what's avail
[02:19] <Alakazam_> yeah wrabbit^ its worth lookin into
[02:19] <oskude> hockyhair: and what makes you think "older" is bad ?
[02:19] <Alakazam_> granted it supports your hardware
[02:19] <undac0va> can anyone help me with a resolution problem with kubuntu?
[02:19] <wrabbit^> Alakazam_: especially if it's probably the best way to learn BSD
[02:20] <wrabbit^> thanks for the link
[02:20] <Alakazam_> no problem
[02:20] <oskude> hockyhair: actually its otherway round, older is more secure, as more people has tested it (imho)
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, do you think ubuntu is the best way to learn linux?
[02:20] <Alakazam_> there's really no "learning" bsd... its just a little different is all
[02:20] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: to be honest, no
[02:20] <Alakazam_> the way the deviced are named, the partitioning shceme
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> thought so
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:21] <Alakazam_> br ciggy time
[02:21] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: I see your point. very sly
[02:21] <oskude> hockyhair: and even that the kernel in ubuntu seems "older" than the vanilla kernel, there are many fixes in ubuntus kernel (i heard)
[02:21] <wrabbit^> hehe
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> btw wrabbit^ check this page ...http://www.pcbsd.org/index.php?p=learnhome
[02:22] <wrabbit^> godammit.  I finished apt-get installing kde and now it won't show up when I restart and look in sessions
[02:22] <physicsnick> :/
[02:22] <physicsnick> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:22] <wrabbit^> argh!
[02:22] <physicsnick> heh
[02:22] <profoX`> anyone who has experience with XV Video Overlay in tv-out ?
[02:23] <wrabbit^> I just downloaded 220 or so mb of god knows what
[02:23] <physicsnick> beware, your computer will now say kubuntu when you turn it on
[02:23] <physicsnick> and you'll be looking at kde's login manager
[02:23] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: I've bookmarked the pcBSD page for later use :)
[02:23] <profoX`> will video overlay in tv-out give me only the movie that is playing fullscreen on the tv, even when i put the movie to the bg?
[02:23] <physicsnick> wrabbit^, it's almost certainly all the same thing in kubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, pcbsd is using freebsd6 underneath ...
[02:23] <physicsnick> probably won't be a big download to get what's left
[02:23] <oskude> hockyhair: or have you found a bug in dappers kernel ?
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> its freebsd with make up and all
[02:24] <wrabbit^> sweet
[02:24] <ashzilla> hi, is there a xubuntu channel?
[02:24] <wrabbit^> alright physicsnick, I'll do it but if I'm sucked into some kind of black hole, I'm coming after you
[02:24] <totall_6_7> !xubuntu
[02:24] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:24] <physicsnick> ashzilla, yep, guess what it is... #xubuntu
[02:25] <hockyhair> oskude: thanks, i gotta run..
[02:25] <totall_6_7> you'd think the channel would be included in ubotu
[02:25] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: another 72meg
[02:26] <physicsnick> :/
[02:26] <wrabbit^> 21 minutes remainig
[02:26] <wrabbit^> remaining*
[02:26] <physicsnick> wrabbit^, it's worth it... once i started using kde i never looked back to gnome again
[02:27] <wrabbit^> I've never used gnome. :) first thing I did was install xfce
[02:27] <physicsnick> ah. well xfce feels like a stripped down gnome :p
[02:27] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: might give pcBSD a go on my thinkpad.  I hardly bothered with drivers on this thing.  I have no idea what's in t
[02:28] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: ah, hehe.  Well I'm on a mission tonight
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, i should tell ya though bsd got more driver problems than linux ...
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> if you are reallly geeky ... try opensolaris
[02:28] <physicsnick> hehe
[02:28] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: so I've heard.  takes a while for the hardware support to catch up
[02:28] <steven43126> hi
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> i seen it on one laptop before
[02:28] <physicsnick> my string theory prof uses opensolaris
[02:28] <physicsnick> he's really geeky
[02:28] <wrabbit^> 700mhz doesn't run much
[02:29] <dj_baggio> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1583465#post1583465
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> so unless he opens his laptop , his solaris may not may not be running ?
[02:29] <physicsnick> Mirro, does it work?
[02:29] <dj_baggio> it's my problem :/
[02:29] <wrabbit^> zing
[02:29] <steven43126> anyone know a good GUI program for testing regular expressions ?
[02:29] <martalli> I gave my partner a thinkpad 600e (~333 mhz) that actually runs kde without too much trouble
[02:29] <physicsnick> uhohes. apt-get crashed for the third time while dist-upgrading to edgy
[02:29] <oskude> steven43126: i know there is one, forgot the name...
[02:29] <martalli> It's a matter of having 128-256 mb memory, and most of those 300-700mhz machine have to be upgraded to reach that
[02:30] <physicsnick> i get the feeling that this thing is not going to reboot
[02:30] <wrabbit^> I think I'm stuck with 128
[02:30] <steven43126> oskude, lol same as
[02:30] <physicsnick> until i format it
[02:30] <leeyee> I think so. But KDE is slower than GNOME indeed
[02:30] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: you in a rush for edgy?
[02:30] <physicsnick> nope
[02:30] <wrabbit^> just testing eh
[02:30] <gnomefreak> dj_baggio: what are you trying to do?
[02:30] <physicsnick> yep
[02:30] <physicsnick> i want to get rid of xgl
[02:30] <physicsnick> but i still want my wobbly windows
[02:30] <wrabbit^> haha
[02:30] <Mirro> physicsnick, on login it got only GNOME or failsafe gnome etc in session options...
[02:30] <steven43126> oskude, came across on written in tcl that won't do copy and paste and seems unmaintained a GTK one would be nice
[02:31] <physicsnick> Mirro, that's what it's supposed to be
[02:31] <aftertaf> wobbly windows :)
[02:31] <oskude> steven43126: apt-cache search regular expression : gives atleast this "kodos - A visual regular expression editor" look results for more...
[02:31] <physicsnick> Mirro, gnome will start xgl
[02:31] <Mirro> well ok, then i dont understand how to start xgl
[02:31] <physicsnick> open a terminal, and type beryl-xgl
[02:31] <gnomefreak> dj_baggio: by the looks of it you have packages that dont belong in dapper but belong in edgy and that makes for a bad day
[02:31] <physicsnick> wait
[02:31] <^Ocean^> physicsnick, if u have an Nvidia card, and u want to install the betta nvidia drivers u can get beryl going with out XGL
[02:31] <physicsnick> scratch that, type beryl-xgl &
[02:32] <gnomefreak> physicsnick: and Mirro please join #ubuntu-xgl
[02:32] <physicsnick> ^0cean^, yes, but not on dapper
[02:32] <Mirro> terminal....
[02:32] <wrabbit^> crap... 15 days to go and I have 6 gig left on my limit
[02:32] <Mirro> #searching#
[02:32] <wrabbit^> I'm screwed
[02:32] <fatbrain> How do I restart ALSA?
[02:32] <physicsnick> Mirro, #ubuntu-xgl
[02:32] <martalli> Does ubuntu have something like alsaconf?
[02:33] <physicsnick> yeah
[02:33] <physicsnick> martalli, double click the speaker in the system tray
[02:33] <Peter77> how do I use apm instead of acpi?
[02:34] <infoB> hello
[02:34] <martalli> physicsnick - it just has an X overlying the speaker icon.  I clicked on it, and it brings up the mixer, but ith no choices in the drop down menu
[02:35] <Peter77> anyone?
[02:35] <infoB> is there any option or action for dpkg that tells me in which folders package is installed?
[02:35] <physicsnick> martalli, hmm, i don't know then, sorry :(
[02:35] <fatbrain> !alsa
[02:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:35] <martalli> thanks anyway
[02:35] <lordi> What kernel does ubuntu use?
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> lordi, which version of ubuntu ?
[02:36] <martalli> lordi - type uname -r
[02:36] <martalli> in the command line
[02:36] <shining> is it possible to split a thread on the forum ?
[02:36] <lordi> 6.06 desktop
[02:36] <shining> any forum admin here ?
[02:36] <lordi> not installed yet, needs no know if my nic will work or not
[02:37] <Alakazam_> SEATBELT!
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> lordi, does it work with current stable version ?
[02:37] <lordi> i have not tryed yet
[02:37] <|thunder> is there a command to display system uptime ?
[02:37] <lordi> what kernel does 6.06 desktop uses?
[02:38] <flaccid> i got this: 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:13:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> flaccid, you are using edgy ?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> or dapper ?
[02:38] <flaccid> dapper
[02:38] <coyctecm> |thunder: uptime
[02:38] <|thunder> Linux amd64 2.6.15-27-386   for 6.06.1 + update
[02:39] <|thunder> coyctecm; thanks
[02:39] <physicsnick> lol
[02:39] <jrib> shining: try #ubuntuforums
[02:39] <lordi> i needs 2.6.9 kernel
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> lordi, i were you i get a live cd and test ...
[02:39] <anjo> hi, how do you save keyboard shortcuts in xchat?
[02:39] <physicsnick> lordi, why?
[02:39] <wrabbit^> please tell me that kubuntu-desktop comes with tux racer
[02:39] <anjo> sry for the big screenshot - http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5028/7944gy2.png
[02:39] <lordi> i read that my nick will work with that one or later
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, no tux racer .. but got its clone
[02:39] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: good enough :D
[02:39] <flaccid> what is the clone called
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> planet penguin racer
[02:40] <lordi> D-Link DGE-528T <-- Gbit network card
[02:40] <wrabbit^> hehe
[02:40] <wrabbit^> oh, you're seroius
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> get it now for free!!! while stock last
[02:40] <wrabbit^> serious*
[02:40] <iwkse> hi..anybody got experience with ftp login using "connect to server..." and error in creating folders or files? I can modify but not create..i get permissions error. But with other ftp i can create everything...
[02:40] <wrabbit^> lol
[02:40] <flaccid> wickedpuppy: package name?
[02:40] <flaccid> or binary name
[02:40] <fildo> whats this flaccid ?
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> flaccid, surely if you grep for penguin racer i doubt you will find many packages
[02:41] <|thunder> bwaa haa
[02:41] <cuco> hi, i am building a package for ubuntu, which needs to create some mysql tables. on debian, i used the extra file: debian.cnf. this does not work on ubuntu. any ideas whay can i do...?
[02:41] <flaccid> planetpenguin-racer
[02:42] <aftertaf> tux racer aint free?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> no more
[02:42] <anjo> xchat > seetings > advanced > keybaord shortcuts \
[02:42] <aftertaf> suckage!
[02:43] <anjo> how do you save the new key combo ? I want F12 to be /NP but it won't sabe Data1 entries
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> why ? there is the clone ... and its really very good
[02:43] <anjo> save*
[02:43] <THX-1138> Good Morning wickedpuppy.
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> morning THX-1138  ... your nick came from a movie .. isn't it ?
[02:44] <Alakazam_> brb
[02:44] <THX-1138> wickedpuppy - yes,
[02:44] <wrabbit^> I was jus tabout to say that your name looks very familiar
[02:44] <wrabbit^> clue?
[02:44] <anjo> cpme on guys..
[02:44] <anjo> it's a freaking shortcut..
[02:44] <THX-1138> wickedpuppy - "buy,,, Buy more... buy more now!"
[02:45] <wrabbit^> :\
[02:45] <wrabbit^> clue #2
[02:46] <anjo> 894 users
[02:46] <kyja> 892
[02:46] <wrabbit^> sorry anjo, I have no idea
[02:46] <altimod_> 892
[02:46] <aftertaf> wickedpuppy: suckage from free to nonfree....
[02:46] <aftertaf> like xchat
[02:46] <anjo> :-) thanks wrabbit
[02:46] <aftertaf> if u stuck under windose, its shareware :/
[02:46] <wrabbit^> THX-1138: George Lucas?
[02:47] <anjo> good movie
[02:47] <wrabbit^> anjo: hehe, np.  It's frustrating when people odn't answer
[02:47] <THX-1138> wrabbit - Yes.
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> mirc ? its never shareware for me .. i always get the serial :P
[02:47] <wrabbit^> THX-1138: sweet
[02:47] <anjo> i have the directors cut :-D
[02:48] <wrabbit^> time to give kubuntu desktop a shot
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, try kdevelop ... qt is damn good
[02:49] <wrabbit^> hoping there's a python ide
[02:49] <wrabbit^> otherwise, hello again DrPython
[02:49] <nearfar> wrabbit^: Eric3 Python IDE
[02:49] <nearfar> or hell, just use emacs
[02:51] <fatbrain> How can I re-install grub?
[02:51] <fatbrain> I installed windows on a partition, and it ... removed it.
[02:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell fatbrain about grub
[02:51] <iwkse> fatbrain: use a live distro
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> fatbrain, never install windows last ....
[02:52] <josh_> how do i get to my samba share from windows?
[02:52] <iwkse> wickedpuppy: never install windows at all :\
[02:52] <josh_> i put in my user and password for my linux share but i cant access it from my wifes computer
[02:52] <wrabbit^> zing
[02:52] <fatbrain> !grub
[02:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:52] <josh_> i see it there, i just cant connect
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> iwkse, windows is not bad if its free and opensource ... LOL
[02:53] <darkanyel> hi
[02:53] <josh_> windows = spyware
[02:53] <josh_> lol
[02:53] <iwkse> josh_: i guess you're using linux & windows?
[02:53] <josh_> correction... i use linux
[02:53] <darkanyel> how can i make beryl-manage run on start-up?
[02:53] <iwkse> wickedpuppy: windows is free to hack :-] 
[02:53] <josh_> lol i cant make the wife get off windows
[02:54] <Zv_oDD> How do i turn my xbuntu desktop into the mian Windows FileSharing Server on my network? ie are there ne easy samba packages out there?
[02:54] <iwkse> josh_: you should uninstall windows to your wife pc...thats a great idea:)
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> josh_, clearly you are not trying enough ... show her tom cruise licking ubuntu logo and she will be a convert
[02:54] <trm> hi can anyone help me get my dvd player to work on a new installation, i have vlc and movie player but they dont work
[02:54] <josh_> lol wickedpuppy she dont like tom cruise
[02:54] <iwkse> josh_: anyway, if you want access, you can obtain only if you don't specific user & pass..typical windows style:)
[02:54] <josh_> and i have tried takin a pic of me liicking the logo and she still wont do it
[02:55] <josh_> ahh
[02:55] <josh_> the infamous no nick no pass
[02:55] <Peter77> tried apm, no difference
[02:55] <aftertaf> Zv_oDD: install samba.
[02:55] <iwkse> josh_: yap, in other way won't work
[02:55] <vanhtu1987> trm: you need to install libdvdcss package.
[02:55] <josh_> nope that didn't work
[02:55] <josh_> lol funny thing is
[02:55] <josh_> i got the drive to map before
[02:55] <trm> vanhtu1987, i checked synaptic nothing there
[02:55] <Zv_oDD> aftertaf, how?
[02:55] <darkanyel> help
[02:55] <josh_> now it just wont let me connect
[02:55] <darkanyel> how can i make beryl-manage run on start-up?
[02:56] <vanhtu1987> trm: By default Ubuntu comes with almost no support for multimedia
[02:56] <josh_> darkanyel: through it in inittab
[02:56] <iwkse> josh_: you need to access to windows share or linux share?
[02:56] <trm> vanhtu1987, i know its extremely lame
[02:56] <josh_> linux share
[02:56] <josh_> i can get to windows easy
[02:56] <iwkse> josh_: ah..now i catch...
[02:56] <josh_> i mapped my linux share before but now it wont let me access it
[02:56] <trm> how do i get libdvdcss ?
[02:56] <darkanyel> sory i dint understand
[02:56] <iwkse> josh_: so just take a look at /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:57] <NET||abuse> if i want to run wine on dapper, should i just install the package from existing debs? or is there a recomended deb to add and use?
[02:57] <Mirro> my system is hanging how to restart?
[02:57] <vanhtu1987> trm: You may want to take a look at 'UbuntuGuide' (Google for it as I don't remember the Url)
[02:57] <iwkse> josh_: you need to allow access for user and share
[02:57] <Mirro> any shortcut?
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> Mirro, keep pressing the powr button ?
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> if it hanging .. whats the point of pressing the shortcut on the keyboard ?
[02:57] <Mirro> the whole menu doesnt work
[02:57] <vanhtu1987> trm: They had a reason not to include the non-free component in the distro.
[02:58] <jenda> Mirro: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will restart X... but might not work on a hanging system.
[02:58] <jrib> ubotu: tell trm about dvd
[02:58] <Wompum_Redneck> try ctrl alt f1
[02:59] <josh_> ok im looking at smb.conf
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> if he can press the keyboards .. then his com is not hanging ...
[02:59] <josh_> i see the part i need to change i just dont know the syntax format i need to input the users
[02:59] <aftertaf> Zv_oDD: with apt or synaptic.
[02:59] <anjo> mirro - a laptop or normal PC keyboard ?
[02:59] <aftertaf> Zv_oDD: then hit gogle for help on setting it up. theres bags of info out there
[02:59] <iwkse> josh_: look at smb.conf.example
[02:59] <Wompum_Redneck> power button always works too
[03:01] <darkanyel> how can i make beryl-manage run automaticly???
[03:01] <Lunar_Lamp> argh, sometimes if i tap "skip track" a couple of times in amarok it just skips through the entire playlist playing about the first second of each, and with 2500 tracks this takes an age, and i can only stop it by killing amarok - is there a way to fix this?
[03:01] <josh_> ahh
[03:01] <josh_> i was using the wrong password
[03:02] <josh_> i setup samba with my password but i changed my linux password about 2 weeks ago
[03:02] <josh_> how do i change my smb passwd?
[03:02] <josh_> smbpasswd josh
[03:02] <josh_> ?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> smbpasswd ?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> yah
[03:02] <Kuto> hi
[03:02] <josh_> yep
[03:02] <darkanyel> how can i make beryl-manage run on start-up?
[03:03] <anjo> Lunar_Lamp - i don't know amarok .. but it sounds like you have activated a "preview" mode
[03:03] <vanhtu1987> darkanyel: you may try putting the command in /etc/rc.local
[03:03] <Peter77> well I'm going back to suse as I can't fix this battery level monitor in ubuntu
[03:03] <darkanyel> anyone use compiz??
[03:03] <Kuto> hi
[03:03] <Kuto> can u guys rename amd64 to x86_64 pls
[03:03] <Lunar_Lamp> anjo - no it's not like that - it's skipping through the tracks as if the button has been held down
[03:04] <anjo> perhaps slowly double clicking stops the preview mode ? or check shortcuts?
[03:04] <anjo> oh..
[03:04] <Kuto> can u guys rename amd64 to x86_64 pls
[03:04] <anjo> lol
[03:04] <variant> anyone know how to disable the framebuffer with the ubuntu dapper live cd?
[03:04] <josh_> can i do a : path = / if i want to be able to access all files and folders from windows using the root account?
[03:04] <aftertaf> variant: cant you interrupt the boot and put nofb as an option?
[03:05] <variant> aftertaf: yeah, is it just nofb then ?
[03:05] <aftertaf> not sure, but could be
[03:05] <variant> aftertaf: booting hte live cd in "safe graphics mode" still enables the fb ..
[03:05] <fu-k-t> i am having trouble with a network install
[03:06] <fu-k-t> would anyone be willing to help me out?
[03:06] <josh_> how do i specify users allowed to access a share?
[03:06] <boink> network .. off nfs?
[03:06] <Lunar_Lamp> anjo - amarok becomes unresponsive - i can't do anything with it other than kill
[03:06] <josh_> i dont want all to be able to access my root share... just my root account...
[03:06] <fu-k-t> boink: off pxe/tftp
[03:06] <aftertaf> variant: it is -nofb but i dont know if you can interrupt boot up from live cd like with grub
[03:06] <anjo> Lunar_Lamp,  sry, i don't know. i was guessing
[03:06] <fu-k-t> for some reason tftp isn't working
[03:06] <fu-k-t> and i am stumped
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> josh_, would it be better to ask in #samba ?
[03:07] <UKMatt> is there a codec that i'm missing that allows you to play .avi's?  I thought I had them all but the .avi's i'm trying are blurred
[03:07] <Lunar_Lamp> yeah, no worries anjo = i was just hoping smoeone would know
[03:07] <variant> aftertaf: yes you can
[03:07] <aftertaf> variant: ok, try -nofb then
[03:07] <variant> aftertaf: thnx
[03:07] <fu-k-t> UKMatt: get vlc media player
[03:07] <aftertaf> :)
[03:07] <boink> fukt: are you using a Soekris box?
[03:07] <aftertaf> ok, sleepage.
[03:07] <josh_> ahh
[03:07] <josh_> yeah that makes sense
[03:08] <UKMatt> fu-k-t, nope still blurred..
[03:08] <fu-k-t> boink: i don't know what that means, so i'm going to guess no
[03:08] <fu-k-t> i just installed tftpd and dhcp on one of my ubuntu machines
[03:08] <fu-k-t> and dhcp is working perfectly
[03:08] <fu-k-t> but
[03:08] <anjo> Lunar_Lamp, http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/381046.html
[03:08] <boink> sorry, Soekris is a special type of computer which requires a tftp install.
[03:09] <UKMatt> fu-k-t, what about this, "All stand-alone DivX Players compatible, Needs AC3 Codec Installed."
[03:09] <fu-k-t> whenever i go to network boot, my other computer gets its dhcp assignment
[03:09] <fu-k-t> then says "pxe-e32: tftp open timeout"
[03:09] <Atthar> hi, how i can play mp3 files in ubuntu? where i can downlaod the codecs?
[03:09] <Peter77> could my problem be because I'm using a replacement battery in my laptop and not an official sony battery?
[03:09] <fu-k-t> after searching for a tftp server for quite some time
[03:10] <vanhtu1987> Atthar: Googling for 'UbuntuGuide' could help.
[03:10] <fu-k-t> i've done sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart
[03:10] <fu-k-t> and everything looks fine
[03:10] <UKMatt> does anyone know how to get DivX support in ubuntu?
[03:11] <fu-k-t> i've even edited my dhcpd.conf to add a next-server with the address of the tftp server
[03:11] <THX-1138> !ubuntuguide
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <gerhard> jo
[03:11] <fu-k-t> but nothing seems to work
[03:11] <gerhard> i need to play wmv files
[03:11] <fu-k-t> any thought, anybody?
[03:11] <orias> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[03:11] <iwkse> UKMatt: install, w32codecs && ffmpeg plugin
[03:11] <gerhard> how do i do?
[03:12] <morphir> how do I update to the latest i855GM-drivers on my dapper?
[03:12] <iwkse> gerhard: look at UKMatt reply
[03:12] <UKMatt> iwkse, i'm pretty sure i have those, limme check
[03:12] <gerhard> thx iwkse
[03:12] <fu-k-t> oh, and i should also add that if i tftp localhost, it works perfectly
[03:13] <fu-k-t> so i KNOW the tftp server is up and running
[03:13] <fu-k-t> but i can't get my other computer to find it
[03:13] <gerhard> iwkse i also have them
[03:13] <imc_> ANyone Know the name of the text file that controls mailbox filters on thunderbird?
[03:13] <fu-k-t> perhaps it is a problem with my dhcp.conf?
[03:14] <UKMatt> iwkse, do I need libavformat-dev
[03:14] <fu-k-t> i have no experience with running a dhcp server
[03:14] <Codemaster> hey guys, I'm having an odd problem with my repository - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271568
[03:14] <fu-k-t> this is what my config file looks like:
[03:14] <variant> anyone know how to find out the cpu temperature on an apm only device?'
[03:14] <fu-k-t> subnet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0 {
[03:14] <fu-k-t>   range 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2;
[03:14] <orias> when it comes to codecs the easiest way i find is to install them using automatix, its a simple way of installing all the programs and codecs ur likely to use you should download a program called automatix
 it'll easily install all the programs and codecs ur likely to use http://www.getautomatix.com/
[03:14] <UKMatt> iwkse, nm, well I have those two..
[03:14] <fu-k-t>   next-server C0A8020D;
[03:14] <imc_> variant does gkrellm not work on that?
[03:14] <fu-k-t>  filename "pxelinux.0";
[03:14] <fu-k-t> }
[03:15] <variant> imc_: im using the ubuntu live cd
[03:15] <fu-k-t> please, anyone
[03:15] <imc_> Ah
[03:15] <fu-k-t> i am so totally at a loss
[03:15] <variant> imc_: i am looking for a command'
[03:15] <iwkse> UKMatt: which player are you using?
[03:15] <imc_> yeah, had one somewheres. . .  lemme look :)
[03:15] <orias> mplayer my favourite
[03:15] <variant> imc_: with acpi i just do cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THZN/temperature
[03:15] <UKMatt> iwkse, any, I've tried VLC and Movie Player
[03:15] <orias> but xine and vlc are just as good
[03:15] <anjo> fu-k-t, subnet and mask look wrong
[03:15] <iwkse> UKMatt: try totem
[03:16] <imc_> variant: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[03:16] <imc_> ?
[03:16] <orias> actually i find vlc and xine are better when it comes to dvds and vcds
[03:16] <variant> imc_: thats an acpi interface, i said apm
[03:16] <imc_> Ouch!
[03:16] <imc_> Sorry variant
[03:16] <orias> its just a matter of preference really
[03:16] <variant> imc_: so you should be
[03:16] <fu-k-t> anjo: i get a dhcp assignment, and since this is a trivial (1 client) setup, those shouldn't hinder anything
[03:17] <fu-k-t> anjo: but what would you suggest i change them to?
[03:17] <UKMatt> iwkse, this is dumb but how?  I have it installed but don't see it anywhere
[03:17] <docmur> does any one know the name of a good web filter for linux other then squid and dansguardian
[03:17] <kamui``> hi
[03:17] <wrabbit^> yes, kubuntu is indeed sweet :)
[03:17] <kamui``> how can i listen to teamspeak and other application at the same time?
[03:17] <iwkse> UKMatt: dont you have it in menu'
[03:17] <iwkse> ?
[03:18] <aftertaf> wrabbit^: yeah!!!
[03:18] <physicsnick> hey wrabbit^, you're in kubuntu finally?
[03:18] <wrabbit^> physicsnick: haha, yes :)
[03:19] <UKMatt> iwkse, it's marked in synaptic, but isn't in menu or under Other Applications when I right click the file
[03:19] <physicsnick> good work :)
[03:19] <physicsnick> anyway i just upgrading to edgy
[03:19] <wrabbit^> now I've gotta apt-get install this tux game
[03:19] <physicsnick> gonna restart... moment of truth...
[03:19] <wrabbit^> hasn't crashed?
[03:19] <aftertaf> hehe
[03:19] <anjo> fu-k-t, a dhcp server? i dunno. my bad, i thought you meant client install
[03:19] <iwkse> UKMatt: reinstall it
[03:19] <wrabbit^> what was it called again?  planetux-racer?  I'll apt-cache search it
[03:20] <Alakazam_> YEAH you do that.
[03:20] <wrabbit^> ok, I will
[03:20] <fu-k-t> well, i've got one ubuntu box i'm using as a dhcp and pxe server
[03:20] <UKMatt> iwkse, out of curiosity, can I uninstall in synaptic and then reinstall or do I have to close synaptic in between
[03:20] <Alakazam_> lol
[03:20] <THX-1138> wrabbit^ - neverball - is also a lot of fun.
[03:20] <fu-k-t> and i'm trying to use that to net-install another box
[03:20] <iwkse> UKMatt: there's a reinstall command
[03:20] <wrabbit^> bah, nothing
[03:20] <wrabbit^> I'll try that aswell THX-1138, thanks
[03:21] <THX-1138> Has anyone seen flightgear? - is it worth trying?
[03:22] <\pub\bash0r> is now someone here who has an idea regarding my problem? (description here: http://aksdb.homeip.net/shorewallproblem.html)
[03:22] <UKMatt> iwkse, still no change, you're talking about the plain "totem" file right
[03:23] <iwkse> UKMatt: i think you broke something in your system. Totem should be in your menu. open a terminal and write totem
[03:23] <physicsnick> yay!
[03:23] <Wulong> What are the base packages I need to get X working? xbase-clients, xinit and xorg?
[03:23] <highneko> I deleted my gnome kicker. How can I make a new one?
[03:23] <ashzilla> Hi, I just ran apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:23] <UKMatt> iwkse, alright I ran it in that and its scrambled too
[03:23] <ashzilla> I started with Xubuntu, but did not like it as much
[03:24] <ashzilla> but, after I finish installing the ubuntu desktop
[03:24] <ashzilla> Do I need to make any system changes to make sure gnome is used as my display manager
[03:26] <tran> como puedo cambiar de canal?
[03:26] <THX-1138> !es
[03:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:26] <tran> eo
[03:26] <tran> ayudaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:26] <tran> plis
[03:26] <tran> q pongo
[03:27] <tran> para cambiar de canal
[03:27] <THX-1138> We can try to help. it will take longer and because of language likely be wrong.
[03:27] <vanhtu1987> Hi, does anyone know what is the different between the proprietary NVidia 3D driver and nvidia-glx ? What is more compatible ?
[03:28] <fu-k-t> HAH!
[03:28] <fu-k-t> i got it!
[03:28] <Alakazam_> vanhtu1987, just use what comes with Ubuntu
[03:28] <Alakazam_> you're not going to notice much of a difference if any.
[03:28] <THX-1138> vanhtu - I have used both. - no noticeable difference.
[03:28] <ashzilla> Anyone?
[03:28] <wrabbit^> wow, neverball is addictive
[03:28] <fu-k-t> for anyone keeping score at home, the tftp server needs to be in the same subnet as the client's assigned address
[03:28] <wrabbit^> lol
[03:28] <ashzilla> Can anyone help? Will I need to make any system cahnges after installing ubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <ashzilla> or do I just restart to use gnome
[03:29] <vanhtu1987> Alakazam_: thanks, I guess I'll choose nvidia-glx
[03:29] <Alakazam_> yes, do that.
[03:29] <Alakazam_> :)
[03:30] <webben> I downloaded the latest Edgy iso yesterday
[03:30] <webben> It boots okay
[03:30] <webben> but then when i say try and launch the Text Editor
[03:31] <webben> a Loading notice appears in the bottom panel for a while then disappears
[03:31] <webben> same happens with terminal
[03:31] <webben> anyone else experienced anything like that?
[03:32] <THX-1138> Alakazam_ - Did you take you nick from the World of Warcraft information site? - What realm?  (Gnomeregan "Emacs" mage)
[03:32] <mcphail> webben: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:32] <webben> mcphal: ah, thanks
[03:33] <Alakazam_> THX-1138, no... ive had this name for about 4 years
[03:33] <cratuki> I've got a whizbang new dual core intel chip. Should I be using a '-server' kernel, or the 686 one, or something else?
[03:33] <segfault> cratuki, 686
[03:33] <THX-1138> Alakazam - Is my devotion (addiction?) to WoW showing? - lol
[03:33] <cratuki> segfault: thanks.
[03:34] <segfault> np
[03:34] <vanhtu1987> Alakazam_: apt-cache showed me the nvidia-glx package requires one of the older kernel (15-23), but I'm using 15-27.
[03:35] <DeKo> hey all
[03:36] <Alakazam_> hmm
[03:36] <THX-1138> vanhtu1987 - There won't be any conflicts. - obviously it is better to match them perfectly.
[03:36] <Alakazam_> vanhtu1987, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:36] <luckyone_> hello everyone
[03:37] <vanhtu1987> THX-1138: I hope so, after reading the above guide, thank Alakazam_
[03:37] <luckyone_> what are some command line tools I can use to monitor disk io by process?
[03:37] <Alakazam_> np
[03:37] <alluc> which do you think is the best CMS ?
[03:38] <oskude> alluc: you can test many here http://opensourcecms.com/
[03:38] <THX-1138> vanhtu1987 - After you install an accelerated driver take a peek at xcompmgr - Drop shadows and transparencies. you might of seen it already in KDE.
[03:40] <THX-1138> !info violent rave
[03:40] <ubotu> Package violent does not exist in dapper
[03:40] <Alakazam_> lo
[03:40] <Alakazam_> l
[03:41] <luckyone_> how do you tell what your disks are 'crunching' on when you think your box should be idle?
[03:41] <docmur> how can I save the iptables so they start on boot
[03:41] <windtw> Why don't have daily build today?
[03:41] <THX-1138> ps -aux
[03:42] <THX-1138> top
[03:42] <windtw> I want to try the Core Duo 2 Support.
[03:42] <luckyone_> how does top show disk io?
[03:44] <docmur> do I just use iptables-save
[03:44] <|rt|> luckyone_: you could use iostat
[03:44] <jrib>  /msg ubotu iptables
[03:45] <jrib> I was trying to check if ubotu knew anything so ignore that :)
[03:46] <jrib> docmur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo appears you are right
[03:46] <Ragol> after apt-get dist-upgrade today my apt (or some of its libraries) is broken, everything related to apt-get gives me segfault
[03:46] <Ragol> apt-get, adept, synaptic, update-manager
[03:46] <Ragol> oh, this is edgy system...
[03:47] <jrib> Ragol: edgy in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:47] <Ragol> aa, okei
[03:47] <Ragol> okay, I meant
[03:49] <efuzzyone> how do I unlock all locked packages from command line instead of Synaptic?
[03:50] <Dr_willis> locked ?
[03:50] <_thumper_> anyone here know a simple way to test a microphone?
[03:50] <diminthedam> my removable cdrom is failing all of a sudden. how do i know if its a hardware or soft problem?
[03:51] <siri_> hi all
[03:51] <_thumper_> using skype 1.3 I can hear but not be heard
[03:51] <_thumper_> not sure if it is skype or my mike
[03:51] <gnomefreak> jrib: i added the link ofr iptables :)\
[03:51] <gnomefreak> for
[03:51] <crimeboy> clear
[03:51] <jrib> gnomefreak: thanks
[03:51] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:53] <smax> hi
[03:53] <tran> eooooooo
[03:53] <tran> alguien q me ayude
[03:53] <highneko> Is it possible to add a panel in gnome?
[03:53] <smax> i installed ubuntu with out running the md5chksum on the cd.  is it possible to reinstall the OS with out having to wipe out my documents ?
[03:54] <morphir> is ubunnty
[03:54] <^Ocean^> yes
[03:54] <^Ocean^> just install it and dont format the disk
[03:54] <tran> help me
[03:54] <smax> cool
[03:54] <tran> plis
[03:54] <tran> eooooooooooooo
[03:54] <smax> i'll make sure i wont.   thanx for Ocean
[03:54] <diminthedam> my removable cdrom is failing all of a sudden. how do i know if its a hardware or soft problem?
[03:54] <jenda> smax: Did you use a seperate /home partition?
[03:54] <tran> cabrones ayudarme
[03:55] <jenda> That's the best way - then you can even format the system disk and keep all your docs/settings
[03:55] <morphir> is ubuntu edgy code freesed?
[03:55] <tran> cara mierdas ayudarmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[03:55] <jrib> !es
[03:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:55] <jrib> tran: and be nice...
[03:55] <yhan> hi
[03:55] <jrib> ubotu: tell morphir about schedule
[03:55] <THX-1138> smax - former windows user? yes me too. Security in linux is a refreshingly welcome change. - Why would you want to reinstall? packages on the CD/DVD are compared to a list of sums during install.
[03:56] <yhan> after dist-upgrading from 5.10 to dapper, I can't suspend my t42 anymore, any thoughts ?
[03:56] <cwraig> hey all
[03:56] <cwraig> anyone know where i can get some help for streamripper?
[03:57] <guillem101> highneko, just right mouse menu on panel blank-> add new panel
[03:58] <guillem101> Any idea about when edgy is to be officially launched?
[03:59] <jrib> ubotu: tell guillem101 about schedule
[03:59] <THX-1138> highneko - Would the command gnome-panel help? - no idea if it will bring up a panel if both are removed.
[03:59] <guillem101> jrib, thanks
[04:00] <mike_stern> how can i start the ftp server on ubuntu plz?
[04:00] <mike_stern> i cant find ftpd
[04:00] <THX-1138> ftpd - maybe?
[04:00] <jrib> !ftp
[04:00] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:00] <THX-1138> sry - misread.
[04:00] <jrib> !info ftpd
[04:00] <ubotu> ftpd: FTP server. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.17-21 (dapper), package size 41 kB, installed size 172 kB
[04:00] <jrib> ubotu: tell mike_stern about universe
[04:01] <THX-1138> jrib - cool
[04:02] <THX-1138> jrib - comming from windows is an ftp server smaller than 15 million bytes fast? - j/k
[04:02] <mike_stern> i think none is installed!
[04:02] <jrib> heh
[04:02] <mike_stern> how can i install one?
[04:02] <THX-1138> 172 kbs - What no msi installer? no .net? - lol
[04:02] <jrib> mike_stern: you can install ftpd if you want that one by enabling universe and then using syantpic ro apt-get
[04:03] <jrib> s/ro/or
[04:03] <Kuto> how do i enable smp?
[04:03] <cmc> ubotu: tell cmc about universe
[04:03] <Kuto> ubotu, tell Kuto smp
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell Kuto smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <fourat> how to reset root's password if forgotten ?
[04:03] <cycom> why doesn't ubuntu have perl 5.8.8?
[04:04] <jrib> !info perl
[04:04] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.7-10ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3219 kB, installed size 11172 kB
[04:04] <Dr_willis> cycom,  i would guess it came out after dapper was finalized.
[04:04] <jrib> cycom: it's in edgy
[04:04] <guillem101> Kuto, install kernel with smp support
[04:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell cycom about schedule
[04:05] <ashzilla> after I 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', how do i remove xcfe and use gnome
[04:05] <Trae> anyone know if gparted is on the Ubuntu CD?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> Trae: it is
[04:05] <Trae> gnomefreak, danke
[04:05] <gnomefreak> !info gparted
[04:05] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[04:05] <gnomefreak> should be
[04:05] <cycom> makes sense
[04:05] <jrib> I believe it is
[04:05] <LookTJ> Hi
[04:06] <LookTJ> A site is not working for me
[04:06] <ashzilla> gnomefreak: after I install ubunt-desktop, how do I remove the xubuntu display manager and use gnome?
[04:06] <rodneyk> !info postfix
[04:06] <ubotu> postfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 901 kB, installed size 2172 kB
[04:06] <LookTJ> only one site
[04:06] <rodneyk> !info postfix edgy
[04:06] <ubotu> postfix: A high-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.3-1 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[04:06] <Trae> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/22336
[04:06] <linuxactivist> ashzilla: you should be able to log out ans select gnome as your session when you try logging in again.  It should ask if you want to make it the default.
[04:06] <fu-k-t> fourat: you realize ubuntu by default doesn't set a root password, right?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> ashzilla: you dont need to remove it but i would use manybe deborphan
[04:07] <ashzilla> gnomefreak: is that a package?
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ashzilla: it is
[04:07] <fourat> fu-k-t, yes
[04:07] <gnomefreak> !deborphan
[04:07] <ubotu> deborphan is a program used to clean up unneeded packages that are no longer needed (install from Synaptic/Adept). Also consider using !aptitude
[04:07] <fu-k-t> fourat: okay, try sudo -s from an admin account, then passwd from there
[04:07] <jrib> "unneeded packages that are no longer needed" is a bit redundant
[04:07] <ashzilla> gnomefreak: so what package would I want to deborphan, to remove xcfe
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ashzilla: you can allso do it in synaptic
[04:08] <fu-k-t> (sudo -s gets you a root terminal)
[04:08] <Trae> bbiab
[04:08] <gnomefreak> ashzilla: all xfce packages
[04:08] <gnomefreak> lol jrib your right
[04:08] <frans> just installed ubuntu 5.10, running for 30 minutes........will format now! and install OSX, don't like it, what do you guys like about  ubuntu??????????
[04:08] <fourat> fu-k-t, my user's account isnt in the sudoers
[04:08] <fu-k-t> fourat: otherwise, you can do it from the gui, but i forget where and i'm not on a ubuntu machine right now
[04:09] <fu-k-t> fourat: then you're fucked
[04:09] <LookTJ> !language
[04:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:09] <Mitzi> anyone running xephem?
[04:09] <davvs> how do i copy all files from folder a that is not in folder b to folder b?
[04:09] <ExitMenu> hi can some one please help me I have made a big mistake and did the following sudo usermod -Gsubversion user and now cant sudo anything, is there any way to fix this :(
[04:09] <fu-k-t> fourat: unless you have sudo privileges, you can't get a root password
[04:09] <gnomefreak> fixed
[04:10] <not-a-bot> Hello, stupid beginners question: I need to run a daemon on Ubuntu startup without logging in, what is the recommended way to do so?
[04:10] <phrearch> anyone knows why ivman doesnt start?
[04:10] <not-a-bot> kissd (a kiss-dvd-player client)
[04:10] <yhan> not-a-bot, /etc/init.d
[04:10] <phrearch> cant get it to be a daemon :(
[04:10] <LookTJ> fourat: go into recovery mode or goto the cammandline
[04:10] <not-a-bot> thanks yhan :)
[04:11] <TarnMaster> salve
[04:11] <rupe> do you have a live CD
[04:11] <TarnMaster> hi there
[04:11] <ExitMenu> so have I screwed my system guys or is there a fix ?
[04:11] <not-a-bot> Mhhh ... cannot open init.d
[04:12] <not-a-bot> using edgy eft current beta here, does upstart still use init.d ?
[04:12] <TarnMaster> I have (again) a big issue with the my IDE driver....
[04:13] <not-a-bot> damn typo, my fault :)
[04:13] <segfault> ExitMenu, there is a fix
[04:14] <ExitMenu> is it reinstall :(
[04:14] <TarnMaster> apparently the kernel driver is corrupting the HD, which isn't good at all....
[04:15] <segfault> ExitMenu, ull need to reboot into single user mode, then run usermod -G user again but this time as the option to G list all of the groups u wnat ur user in, and make sure to include admin and ur usernamelist all
[04:15] <TarnMaster> I suspect a buggy MOBO or IDE controller, but I'm unable to find references about that
[04:15] <ExitMenu> kewl I will do that
[04:15] <ExitMenu> ta
[04:15] <TarnMaster> probably because I do not know what to search
[04:16] <diminthedam> my removable cdrom is failing all of a sudden. how do i know if its a hardware or soft problem?
[04:16] <segfault> diminthedam, try in another machine
[04:17] <diminthedam> segfault: good one! only its not possible for me
[04:17] <GameCat> hi - can someone tell me how to add the GD library to php4?
[04:18] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a problem that i cant change my screen resolution when i run ubuntu in the cdrom boot
[04:18] <segfault> diminthedam, try looking at dmeg output for errors
[04:18] <cyberfall_> anyone use 7zip
[04:18] <cyberfall_> or know of a gui that will make use of it and it options
[04:18] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a problem that i cant change my screen resolution when i run ubuntu in the cdrom boot
[04:19] <diminthedam> segfault: dmesg says tha cdrom open failed. but i still dont know wheter that means hard/soft
[04:19] <Mille> anyone could tell me why i can't move my buntu partition? i'm using the live-cd and gparted. but i can't actually move it forward.
[04:19] <cyberfall_> ghostghost,  most of the time it has it locked at that resolution based on the driver is my guess
[04:19] <cyberfall_> there a command that will reconfigure the package for xserver
[04:19] <cyberfall_> or xorg whichever it is
[04:20] <cyberfall_> that should point u in the right way to do some searching
[04:20] <taylor_> this is starting to annoy me
[04:20] <ghostshadow189> oh do u remember exactly ?
[04:20] <frogzoo> Ghost_Printer: ctrl + alt + '+'/'-'
[04:20] <ghostshadow189> xorg ?
[04:20] <cyberfall_> sorry no
[04:20] <taylor_> i can't get http://moparisthebest.com to work
[04:20] <cyberfall_> ya
[04:20] <taylor_> it's not responding
[04:20] <segfault> ghostshadow189, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:21] <ghostshadow189> thanx :D
[04:21] <frogzoo> ghostshadow189: ctrl + alt + '+'/'-'
[04:21] <TarnMaster> asking again.... did anyone beside me experienced problem (serious problem) with ide drivers under 2.6.15?
[04:21] <ghostshadow189> i'll try
[04:21] <cyberfall_> redhat is something like xfree86 but this distro uses what called xorg
[04:21] <cyberfall_> TarnMaster,
[04:21] <humbolt> which joarnaling FS would you recommend for an external USB drive?
[04:21] <TarnMaster> yes cyberfall_ ?
[04:21] <cyberfall_> i dont know how to tell what version i gotz
[04:21] <frogzoo> humbolt: nothing wrong with ext3
[04:21] <TarnMaster> uname -r cyberfall_ :)
[04:21] <segfault> ghostshadow189, if ur on live cd tho not sure that will do it, i think u have to select res at boot menu, its been awhile since i used live cd i forget exactly
[04:21] <Mitzi> I have a file that I can run as root with a ./filename command but not as user even though I own it, how can I fix that?
[04:22] <segfault> humbolt, opinions vary i like reiser
[04:22] <frogzoo> Mitzi: ls -l filename
[04:22] <cyberfall_> 2.6.15
[04:22] <cyberfall_> -27-i386
[04:22] <TarnMaster> thus, did you have HD problems?
[04:22] <burzum> how can i find out which nvidia driver is currently installed?
[04:22] <cyberfall_> nop
[04:23] <cyberfall_> none yet
[04:23] <Mitzi> -rwxrwxrwx 1 ian ian 4531936 2006-10-05 11:06
[04:23] <ghostshadow189> segfault : i used F4 key to change resolution to 1024 but it just work when install , when it go to ubuntu , i change to 640 and i cant change it
[04:23] <frogzoo> TarnMaster: you mean like spate of bad fscks & losing data ?
[04:23] <humbolt> frogzoo: What I dislike about ext3 are the periodic fscks. Will that be the same for external USB drives mounted by gnome?
[04:23] <frogzoo> humbolt: periodic fscks are part of life
[04:24] <TarnMaster> frogzoo, at the beginning yes.... after some time 'corrupted patition table' and no more boot
[04:24] <samAA> Mitzi: the dir needs to be in ur PATH
[04:24] <segfault> ghostshadow189, after u have installed run this config ur res sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <\pub\bash0r> is now someone here who has an idea regarding my problem? (description here: http://aksdb.homeip.net/shorewallproblem.html)
[04:24] <cyberfall_> anyone use 7zip and know of a linux version that a gui frontend
[04:24] <humbolt> TarnMaster: what do you mean?
[04:24] <Mille> anyone could help me with my partitions? having problems moving my ubuntu partition.
[04:24] <ghostshadow189> thanks , i'll try it right now
[04:24] <jrib> cyberfall_: file roller
[04:25] <jrib> ubotu: tell cyberfall_ about 7zip
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7zip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <cyberfall_> segfault,  one problem he using a live disk
[04:25] <jrib> dumb ubotu
[04:25] <Mitzi> samAA, do I need to make a symbolic link or something?
[04:25] <TarnMaster> humbolt, the problem manifest itself with the kernel having problems to mount the root file system
[04:25] <cyberfall_> i know what 7zip is
[04:25] <jrib> ubotu: tell cyberfall_ about 7z
[04:25] <cyberfall_> just tryin to find an easyer way of doing the switches
[04:25] <TarnMaster> which seems to call for problems either in udev or in the initrd
[04:25] <cyberfall_> seeing i dont understand it sytax
[04:25] <jrib> cyberfall_: I know you know, the page just explains how it can be used with the archive manager
[04:26] <jrib> :)
[04:26] <segfault> cyberfall_, oh he was unclear :) only way i think todo that is to do at boot
[04:26] <samAA> Mitzi: change to the dir containing the file then run export PATH=${PATH}:$PWD
[04:26] <cyberfall_> oh oks
[04:26] <Mitzi> samAA, cheers, I'll give it a whirl :)
[04:26] <cyberfall_> i try xarchiver but that was useless
[04:27] <TarnMaster> humbolt, I have a feeling that this is a problem with the IDE controller.... as this is the second HD which is having problem on thesame machine
[04:27] <humbolt> TarnMaster: Want an FS for my USB drive (non-root).
[04:27] <Mitzi> samAA, I just did it but it gives me the same erros saying that the file already exists???
[04:27] <cyberfall_> TarnMaster,  i havent been reading but did u run a hd test
[04:27] <humbolt> What about reiserfs and xfs these days?
[04:28] <quiet> humbolt, no reason to use anything other than ext3
[04:28] <taylor__> omg
[04:28] <taylor__> omggg\
[04:28] <quiet> jfs is good for thumb drives though
[04:28] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, it depends what do you mean for that....
[04:28] <taylor__> i getting timeout errors
[04:29] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a question that does ubuntu support SATA hdd ?
[04:29] <quiet> very small footprint, very low CPU, but not really fast... but neither is USB.
[04:29] <quiet> so jfsos a good fit.
[04:29] <TarnMaster> fsck is ok
[04:29] <samAA> Mitzi: I must have misunderstood, what's the problem
[04:29] <cyberfall_> TarnMaster,  it may not be the controller
[04:29] <cyberfall_> it could be the drive failing
[04:29] <der0b> ghostshadow189: yes
[04:29] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, I know, I'm trying to understand what it is
[04:30] <ghostshadow189> oh gr8
[04:30] <ghostshadow189> thanx
[04:30] <cyberfall_> well if it a maxtor got google for maxpower it maxtor drive test program
[04:30] <guillem101> ghostshadow189, it does in my case since more than a year right now
[04:30] <Lane> Which distro has the best repositories
[04:30] <baxter_kylie> Hi. I have a question regarding raid0. If I create a software array on two extra disks (not disks ubuntu is on) and I later want to wipe my os drive an reinstall ubuntu or any other 'nix, can my raid array be taken with me with little trouble? If so... how?
[04:30] <cyberfall_> western digital has one also called datalife gaurd
[04:30] <cyberfall_> seagate has one also
[04:30] <humbolt> But fscking a 100GB dirve takes forever!
[04:31] <Mitzi> samAA, I have a file, I can run it as root with a ./filename commmand but not as a user
[04:31] <quiet> baxter_kylie, sure you can.
[04:31] <cyberfall_> if u have been powerin down your linux box just holding the power button then u get what happens
[04:31] <cyberfall_> never power a linux box down that way
[04:31] <baxter_kylie> quiet: is there anything special I need to do to preserve the data/settings?
[04:31] <quiet> being  software RAID... the software just duplicates the data... so when you reinstall, you would just tell it to use a software raid again.
[04:32] <samAA> Mitzi: ah; so as the user you cd to the dir, then ./filename; what happens
[04:32] <bertugolu> listen ppl, i have 5.1 surround but i only get sound from the front right and front left, how can i fix it?
[04:32] <quiet> baxter_kylie, do it with LVM and it
[04:32] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, I never do that:)
[04:32] <quiet> baxter_kylie, it's rather easy
[04:32] <cyberfall_> that good
[04:32] <highneko> Is the final release of edgy gonna be on oct 26th?
[04:32] <Mitzi> samAA, it runs and the app starts up
[04:32] <cyberfall_> but go get powermax or maxpower whichever it is
[04:33] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, I have a doubt.... the logical geometry is different from the physical one
[04:33] <cyberfall_> it will test any drive but can only some what try to fix it own make drive
[04:33] <baxter_kylie> quiet: I'm not nearly familiar enough with LVM to feel comfortable knowing what I'm doing... aren't I supposed to block everything out into 2gb partitions, then?
[04:33] <humbolt> which partition type would I use for fat32? 0B W95 FAT32 or 0C W95 FAT32 (LBA)??
[04:33] <cyberfall_> what computer u using this drive on
[04:33] <samAA> Mitzi: as the user right? so there is no problem
[04:33] <cyberfall_> humbolt, fat32 lba
[04:33] <quiet> baxter_kylie, if you use the alternate install disk, and use the real installer it's very straightforward..
[04:34] <quiet> it should even be aut recognized if you reinstall.
[04:34] <quiet> auto*
[04:34] <bertugolu>  listen ppl, i have 5.1 surround but i only get sound from the front right and front left, how can i fix it?
[04:34] <SpComb> baxter_kylie: the kernel raid driver keeps a RAID superblock on the disk/partition that you use, and it stores info about the raid array in it. So a raid array created with md should work with any md
[04:34] <bertugolu>  listen ppl, i have 5.1 surround but i only get sound from the front right and front left, how can i fix it?
[04:34] <Mitzi> samAA, there is a problem, it only runs from root not from user
[04:34] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, I'm on a laptop, a nx6110 by compaq/HP
[04:34] <Dr_willis> bertugolu,  mess with the sliders in the mixers.. theres 2 that should  mirror the front to the rear speakers
[04:34] <Xtremer> does anyone know if the x server package is fixed and can be upgraded ? :)
[04:34] <humbolt> cyberfall_: why LBA?
[04:34] <cyberfall_> so the drive is what came with the lappy
[04:34] <cyberfall_> logic block address
[04:34] <bertugolu> i know that
[04:35] <bertugolu> but the other 3 dont work
[04:35] <quiet> baxter_kylie, this may be of some use too, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410
[04:35] <TarnMaster> the IDE controlelr is intel ich6 apparently
[04:35] <samAA> Mitzi: I just asked you as the *user* cd to the dir and ./filename, and you said it worked, does that work? also what's the dir?
[04:35] <Mitzi> samAA, sorry, it doesn't work that way
[04:35] <baxter_kylie> SpComb: Excellent. So at that point I'd only need to have the raid config file and use a mkraid, right?
[04:35] <cyberfall_> TarnMaster,  well was going to say if the drive is to big linux will see it and try to by pass the bios
[04:36] <cyberfall_> but it will miss up in the write to the drive
[04:36] <humbolt> and again, will the gnome-volume-manager initiate fscks on my ext3 USB partition on mount?
[04:36] <SpComb> baxter_kylie: you shouldn't even need the raid config file, although I think it does have some effect on detecting arrays on system startup
[04:36] <Xtremer> anyone knows ? :D
[04:36] <cyberfall_> just like windows will cause i trashed a 80 gig drive that way
[04:36] <muthana> how remove gaim
[04:36] <darkanyel> hi
[04:36] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, I see, thus should I give the geometry to the kernel by the hda=xxx option?
[04:36] <taylor___> im 5 secs away from getting pissed at ubuntu
[04:36] <SpComb> baxter_kylie: and I've always used mdadm, I don't know if the classic raid tools do it differently
[04:36] <cyberfall_> ubutom, tell file roller
[04:36] <muthana> hi
[04:36] <darkanyel> whwew can i find themes for emerald??
[04:37] <Xtremer> can i update the x server package ? :D is the bug fixed ? :D
[04:37] <muthana> iam want remove gaim
[04:37] <baxter_kylie> spcomb & quiet: Thank you, sincerely! You've both been a great help.
[04:37] <cyberfall_> is the drive like a ata 100 and over 130gig and the lappy only handles ata 66
[04:37] <cyberfall_> if so then ur wasteing your time
[04:37] <darkanyel> whwew can i find themes for emerald??
[04:37] <TheSheep> ok, I have an 1024x768 lcd monitor, but the X insists on using 1280x1024, even when I removed this resolution from xorg.conf -- the result is that I get a scrollable 1280x1024 screen in 1024x768. Any way to force X to 1024x768?
[04:37] <taylor___> anyone listening?
[04:37] <taylor___> grrrrrr
[04:38] <TarnMaster> no, the HD is only 40Gig.....
[04:38] <taylor___> hello???
[04:38] <cyberfall_> then that not where the problem is
[04:38] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, and moreover is its own drive... it should work
[04:38] <Dr_willis> taylor_,  so...
[04:38] <cyberfall_> one or to things the drive going bad or something didnt get installed right
[04:38] <LookTJ> i have problem
[04:38] <TheSheep> LookTJ: try asking your question...
[04:39] <LookTJ> how come http://www.moparisthebest.org/smf/index.php won't work for me...it works for others
[04:39] <Alakazam_> i cut em long, i cut em wide, i cut em fat.
[04:39] <cyberfall_> try a drive tester program and see what goes from that
[04:39] <LookTJ> all other sites work
[04:39] <cyberfall_> if the drive test fine then it a driver not right
[04:39] <bob31984> hi, how do i get the kernel sources? I did apt-get install linux-image-386, but nothing turned up in the /usr/src dir...
[04:39] <TheSheep> LookTJ: what do you mean by 'work'?
[04:39] <cyberfall_> u may need to go to the maker of lappy site and see if there a driver for it
[04:39] <docmur> anyone know of any good C compilers for ubuntu edgy
[04:39] <TheSheep> LookTJ: and by 'not work'
[04:39] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, but why in doing hdparm -I /dev/hda I get a current number of sectors greater than the max number of sectors?
[04:40] <jrib> docmur: gcc?  install build-essential
[04:40] <RedKrieg> docmur, apt-get install build-essential
[04:40] <Xtremer> maybe your isp blocks that site LookTJ
[04:40] <Dr_willis> http://www.moparisthebest.org/smf/index.php works for me.....
[04:40] <docmur> I have both
[04:40] <LookTJ> it doesn't show up...The server at www.moparisthebest.org is taking too long to respond.
[04:40] <RedKrieg> jrib, beat me to the punch
[04:40] <cyberfall_> TarnMaster,  gotz me
[04:40] <LookTJ> and other people has no problems getting on it
[04:40] <RedKrieg> docmur, how are you trying to use it?
[04:40] <cyberfall_> sound like it missed read the drive right
[04:40] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, but this isn't normal, isn't it?
[04:41] <TheSheep> LookTJ: looks like some routing problems
[04:41] <Dr_willis> LookTJ,  that dont sound like a Ubuntu issue.. try pinging the web site.
[04:41] <LookTJ> i did
[04:41] <not-a-bot> does anyone use x-chat-gnome and edgy here?
[04:41] <cyberfall_> Configuration:
[04:41] <darkanyel> whwew can i find themes for emerald??
[04:41] <cyberfall_>         Logical         max     current
[04:41] <cyberfall_>         cylinders       16383   16383
[04:41] <cyberfall_>         heads           16      16
[04:41] <cyberfall_>         sectors/track   63      63
[04:41] <cyberfall_> that what mine shows
[04:41] <LookTJ> !paste
[04:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:41] <docmur> I was compiling wine for source and apt-get build-dep wine was all good
[04:42] <not-a-bot> How the heck do keep x-chat-gnome from opening the channellist every time I connect to s server?
[04:42] <docmur> then apt-get --build source wine failed
[04:42] <TarnMaster> left column is identical for me cyberfall_
[04:42] <Dr_willis> LookTJ,  as a test , download and try a live cd like 'slax' and see if The live cd can get to that site.
[04:42] <docmur> it told me I didn't have a c compiler
[04:42] <Xtremer> !x server
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <not-a-bot> makes it freaking unusable for freenode and other servers with a lot of channels :S
[04:42] <Dr_willis> docmur,  install build-essential yet?
[04:42] <Xtremer> !x-server
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <LookTJ> ok well brb
[04:42] <cyberfall_> !file roller
[04:42] <TarnMaster> but right one shows a 17475 in the first row (sectors) and a 15 in the second (heads)
[04:42] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.16-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 100 kB
[04:42] <segfault> Xtremer, xserver-xorg
[04:42] <Xtremer> ok :D
[04:43] <docmur> yes I have it
[04:43] <Xtremer> !xserver-xorg
[04:43] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[04:43] <linuxactivist> cyberfall_, I think you were looking for file-roller
[04:43] <linuxactivist> !file-roller
[04:43] <ubotu> file-roller: an archive manager for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 635 kB, installed size 4648 kB
[04:43] <Xtremer> segfault u know about the bug of xserver-xorg ?
[04:43] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, apparently this is a problem from the autoprobing.....
[04:44] <segfault> Xtremer, i recal a bug put in an update a few weeks ago, is that to what u are referring
[04:44] <RedKrieg> docmur: what's the exact error message you get?  (just the one line please)
[04:44] <humbolt> This one thing is not perfectly clear to me yet: If I have an external USB drive with an ext3 partition which gets mounted by gnome-volume-manager on hotplug, will this ext3 partition be fsck-ed after the so and so manyest mount? Or does that just apply to partitions which are mentioned in fstab?
[04:44] <Xtremer> yeah segfault .. is that bug fixed ?
[04:44] <bob31984> How do I configure and compile the kernel myself? I can't find the sources
[04:45] <segfault> Xtremer, yeah i believe it was fixed the next day
[04:45] <docmur> I will have to post it later I'm getting the kernel source right now
[04:45] <Xtremer> ok then i can update the packege no ?
[04:45] <segfault> Xtremer, it was a simple fix if u installed the pkg anyway, it just changed the path of something iirc
[04:45] <RedKrieg> docmur: no problem
[04:45] <segfault> Xtremer, yea
[04:45] <trappist> humbolt: I've never seen removable media get auto-fscked, but then again I've never had a usb drive formatted ext3
[04:46] <humbolt> trappist: so which FS do you use?
[04:46] <trappist> humbolt: reiserfs on my hard drives, fat32 on most removable media
[04:46] <tyler_> dopod 838 Pro VS Sony Ericsson P990i....... which one is better?dopod 838 Pro VS Sony Ericsson P990i....... which one is better?
[04:47] <docmur> any one know the date of the full edgy release
[04:48] <Xtremer> !x-server-xorg-core
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-server-xorg-core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <TheSheep> !schedule
[04:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:49] <Sasuk3> only 920 users?
[04:49] <Lunar_Lamp> is it possible to extend an ext3 partition? i currently have a hard drive like this: "windows>swap>ubuntu>ubuntuhome" - can i expand the ubuntu home partition to take over the windows partition if i format it? or will it cause problems because they're not next to each other?
[04:49] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: are u using lvm?
[04:49] <Lunar_Lamp> samAA - not sure - i did default install
[04:49] <Lunar_Lamp> how do i find out?
[04:50] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: df /home
[04:50] <Lunar_Lamp> Filesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
[04:50] <Lunar_Lamp> /dev/hda3             43373228  39143680   2466900  95% /home
[04:50] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: and you want to extend /home?
[04:51] <Lunar_Lamp> samAA - yeah
[04:51] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: you re not using LVM
[04:51] <marcus_> Hi
[04:51] <Lunar_Lamp> samAA - is my only option to wipe windows and mount is a /home/media then?
[04:51] <marcus_> Ive just downloaded a .run file for my Ubuntu desktop
[04:51] <TarnMaster> cyberfall_, I tried testdisk..... WTF means that CHS and LBA do not agree?
[04:51] <marcus_> How do i install it via the terminal?
[04:52] <Lunar_Lamp> marcus_ "sh filename.run"
[04:52] <burzum> how can i find out which nvidia driver version is currently installed?
[04:52] <marcus_> thanks
[04:52] <CroX> !gateway
[04:52] <THX-1138> !testdisk is TestDisk data recovery - recover lost partitions and/or make non-booting disks bootable again http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <Alakazam_> ~~down here we smoke trees, then let the world see~~
[04:53] <humbolt> when gnome-volume-manager mounts my USB ext3/reiserfs/xfs partition, this is done with user root, so I can't write to it directly. Only if I create a dir for my user as root which is owned by him. Is there a way around that?
[04:53] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: ubuntu being /, I assume. hmm you can resize windows ... if you need it
[04:53] <THX-1138> !testdisk
[04:53] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[04:54] <Lunar_Lamp> samAA - i don't need windows - haven't booted it in ages - and have vmware working just fine - so would rather just recover the space
[04:54] <Unimatrix9> hello there
[04:54] <j^2> hey all
[04:54] <Unimatrix9> hi
[04:54] <j^2> i'm looking for net admins, are there are any around?
[04:54] <Xtremer> hub net admins?
[04:55] <j^2> corporate net admins
[04:55] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: I don't know of another  way  execpt for using LVM
[04:55] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm, ok
[04:55] <Kuto2> where do i get c header files:?
[04:55] <Lunar_Lamp> samAA - i assume there's no way to convert to using lvm?
[04:55] <TarnMaster> right, that testdisk:)
[04:55] <jrib> Kuto2: install build-essential
[04:55] <linuxactivist> j^2, I work on a university network.
[04:56] <Kuto2> how do i do it?
[04:56] <THX-1138> TarnMaster - It worked really well for you? - Wish i had it a few eeks ago.
[04:56] <Unimatrix9> how well does splashy work?
[04:56] <jrib> Kuto2: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:56] <Unimatrix9> is it easy to setup?
[04:57] <j^2> linuxactivist: nice, i'm a net admin also, i've been requested to start up monitoring, i was thinking nagios, but they want web traffic to, do you have any suggestions?
[04:57] <jrib> Kuto2: or, you can use system > adminstration > synaptic if you want
[04:57] <TarnMaster> THX-1138, I didn't try to recover data with....
[04:57] <TarnMaster> I just looked at the disk
[04:57] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: not that I know, you can always mount it like you said or wipe windows copy /home it, convert to LVM, copy back  extend ...
[04:58] <Unimatrix9> any one here that has splashy working?
[04:58] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: depends on the sizes and usages
[04:58] <TarnMaster> as I said THX-1138, I got some problems which apparently bore down to a miconfigured disk geometry
[04:58] <linuxactivist> Kuto2, if you need them for something else, just file up synaptic and search for header files.  Usually the -dev package for the software that you are looking for will solve the issue.
[04:58] <burzum> how can i find out which nvidia driver version is currently installed?
[04:58] <eSPete__> i've just overwriten all the files in ~ with this command "mv /media/hda3/file.txt ~/*" and now all the files are gone.
[04:58] <Kuto2> so many header stuff
[04:58] <THX-1138> TarnMaster: did it seem to work okay? - files intact?
[04:59] <TarnMaster> THX-1138, as I just look and didn't try to found partitions it didn't nothing bad....
[05:00] <linuxactivist> j^2, nagios is nice... but complicated to set up.  I recommend getting one of the nagios books that are out there to help.  We have used netsaint (nagios's earlier brother) for a couple of years. It is not as feature packed, but it is easier to get up and running with.  For web traffic, I don't think you can beat webalizer.
[05:00] <TarnMaster> THX-1138, i cannot guarantee what's going to happen if I did
[05:00] <j^2> linuxactivist: nice thinks
[05:00] <JackDanielz> i have a few questions, ubuntu installer cd 6.06 has a 1000hz kernel timer yes?
[05:01] <TarnMaster> does anybody knows what thsi CHS and LBA don't agree stuff means?
[05:02] <erUSUL> eSPete__: you told the system to do something and it has done it. Not too much that we can do about it... sorry to not be of much help... hope that you do not have loosed anything important
[05:02] <not-a-bot> Does anyone know how to deactivate the channel-autolist in x-chat-gnome 0.13 in edgy? And where can I write a bugreport about it? The new channel-autolist causes x-chat-gnome 0.13 to freeze at 100% cpu for minutes when joining networks like freenode :-S
[05:03] <JackDanielz> anyone? does the new ubuntu 6.06 have a 1000hz kernel timer?
[05:03] <erUSUL> burzum: how did you intaled the driver, apt?
[05:03] <linuxactivist> j^2, if you want to spring some more stuff on them to impress the heck out of them, we use ipaudit (http://ipaudit.sourceforge.net/) to get a picture of what is happening at the network, port and protocl level - top talkers, listeners and so forth.  This is good for find out who or what is hogging bandwidth.
[05:03] <Kuto2> how do i get c headers that matches my kernel?
[05:04] <j^2> linuxactivist: awesome thanks
[05:04] <TarnMaster> bbl
[05:04] <eSPete__> erUSUL, year i know, but is there no way to restore the filetable? the data is still there i know
[05:04] <erUSUL> JackDanielz: the instaler kernel has 250
[05:05] <josh_> how do i get 3ddesktop to install properly?
[05:05] <josh_> i cant find a tutroial for it.... a good one
[05:05] <erUSUL> JackDanielz: the *instaled* kernel has 250
[05:05] <erUSUL> JackDanielz: do not know the livecd one (i guess it is the same)
[05:06] <JackDanielz> erUSUL: do u kno if any are 1000 for sure?
[05:06] <mike_stern> how can i run dhcp client on ubuntu?
[05:06] <erUSUL> JackDanielz: any?
[05:07] <Kuto2>  is there smp support for intel dual core core duo processors?
[05:07] <JackDanielz> erUSUL: well maybe the server install ?
[05:07] <mjr> Kuto2, sure
[05:07] <diminthedam> any chance to get some help in fixing removable cdrom drivers?
[05:07] <Kuto2> where?
[05:07] <berent> mike_stern : do u want to run dhcp server or client
[05:08] <Kuto2> mjr, what kernel version do support it?
[05:08] <erUSUL> JackDanielz: 100 HZ is a better choice for servers (as is disabling preemt) so i guess not
[05:08] <burzum> how can i find out which nvidia driver version is currently installed?
[05:08] <mike_stern> client
[05:08] <mjr> Kuto2, any should, just as long as smp is turned on
[05:08] <burzum> erUSUL, yes
[05:08] <burzum> there was an update some days ago
[05:08] <erUSUL> burzum: use apt (apt-cache show packagenameofdriver)
[05:09] <tyler_> anyone tried the new dopod 838 Pro? is it as buggy and hangs as often as its previous manyone tried the new dopod 838 Pro? is it as buggy and hangs as often as its previous models?odels?
[05:09] <burzum> but id like to know if this update are the new beta drivers with support for some features that beryl is using
[05:09] <burzum> erUSUL, ok, thank you
[05:09] <samAA> mike_stern: use dhcp for an interface ....?
[05:09] <Kuto2> mjr:  hmmm ok smp is turn in bios and i installed 2.6.15-smp stuff but i dont see it in grub when i boot pls tell me how
[05:09] <tyler_> anyone tried the new dopod 838 Pro? is it as buggy and hangs as often as its previous models?
[05:09] <mike_stern> where?@!
[05:10] <wimpies> I want to install amarok-arts but it needs amarok 1.3.9 but I have 1.4.0 already ? Are there newer packages for this ?
[05:10] <samAA> mike_stern: gksu network-admin
[05:10] <sbc> Does anyone have a link to some more visual presentation of all the goodies in EdgyEft besides what can be found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta ? I'm really looking for more screenshots and maybe some movies of the fancy 3d stuff?
[05:11] <linuxactivist> j^2, then the one two punch is finished with rolling out MRTG (Multi Router Traffic Grapher) to show your bandwidth usage, peak times, and other statistics throughout the day.  It is more for just pretty graphics, but I believe there are plugins for Nagios.
[05:11] <samAA> Lunar_Lamp: there is unionfs if you are game
[05:11] <Kuto2> how do i know if smp is enabled?
[05:12] <finalbeta> Can't gnome make KDE apps look like gnome, in the same way KDE can make GNOME apps look like KDE aaps
[05:12] <finalbeta> apps
[05:12] <Kuto2> mjr: yo dude pls help
[05:12] <segfault> Kuto2, cat /proc/cpuinfo if u have multicore cpu and smp is enabled it will show more than 1 cpu there
[05:13] <ucordes> where can i find the script to reconfigure vmware?
[05:13] <erUSUL> Kuto2: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | less' and see if you have two processors
[05:14] <fyrestrtr> sbc: google for 'xgl video' for the fancy 3d stuff. The rest is just stock gnome, so you can peruse the gnome website.
[05:14] <Unimatrix9> try youtube for edgy eft
[05:14] <sbc> thanks
[05:14] <Unimatrix9> i got nice hits there , type edgy eft
[05:14] <fyrestrtr> sbc: there is not much in terms of eyecandy that's new in edgy. Most of the stuff can be had in dapper.
[05:14] <Unimatrix9> and not edgyeft
[05:14] <Unimatrix9> :)
[05:14] <Lunar_Lamp> samAA - what's unionfs?
[05:15] <Kuto2> yes i have 2
[05:15] <THX-1138> fyrestrtr - Is bluetooth and wifi any easier?
[05:15] <Kuto2> ok so i installed linux-i686-smp right
[05:15] <fyrestrtr> THX-1138: depends squarely on your hardware.
[05:16] <Kuto2> now shouldnt grub put a ubuntu-linux-i686-SMP stuff in bootloader?
[05:16] <kent> how come i get acced denied when I run:  sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward    ?
[05:16] <Kuto2> now shouldnt grub put a ubuntu-linux-i686-SMP stuff in bootloader?
[05:16] <diminthedam> how can i update my cdrom driver?
[05:16] <THX-1138> fyrestrtr: Ok., and it is released on the 19th?
[05:16] <hectorUbu> hello... anyone could help me with a problem using a Java application?
[05:16] <fyrestrtr> THX-1138: if it wasn't working in dapper, chances are, unless it has specifically worked in later kernels, it won't work in eft.
[05:16] <fyrestrtr> THX-1138: that I don't know.
[05:16] <segfault> Kuto2, on ubuntu the 686 kernel has smp enabled there is no 686 without smp
[05:17] <THX-1138> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule Oct. 26,
[05:17] <vanhtu1987> Hi, will anyone answer this question please: I want to install the NVidia binary 3D driver from their site, but it complains that my kernel does not match the one required and asked me to provide the kernel source for rebuilding. apt-get didn't show my current kernel though (2.6.15-27). Does that mean I have to download from kernel.org ?
[05:17] <fyrestrtr> hectorUbu: unless you tell us the problem, we can't guess what it is.
[05:17] <fyrestrtr> vanhtu1987: no, it means you have to read the wiki :)
[05:18] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > vanhtu1987
[05:18] <baxter_kylie> segfault: is the 'generic' kernel that ships with edgy a 686 or 386?
[05:18] <vanhtu1987> fyrestrtr: thanks, I'll come back in a while.
[05:18] <segfault> baxter_kylie, 386
[05:19] <constantine-xvi> anyone know how to boot an livecd off an usb key?
[05:20] <baxter_kylie> segfault: so for amd64-smp users it's still beneficial to seek out a 686 kernel... Hmm. That synaptic message 'obseleted by Generic Kernel' is misleading.
[05:20] <hectorUbu> I'm trying to run a Java application called Sunrise, it used to work with Dapper but now using Edgy and Sun-Java 1.5 it complains about not finding a library that is right inside the same folder
[05:20] <alvaroar> ola
[05:20] <vanhtu1987> fyrestrtr: Ah, maybe a little more information would help. I couldn't find the matching version of this kernel source: 2.6.15-27
[05:20] <erUSUL> vanhtu1987: just 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[05:21] <alvaroar> ola chicas
[05:21] <segfault> baxter_kylie, i dont use amd64 so i cant really confirm or deny that for u :)
[05:21] <erUSUL> !es
[05:21] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> hectorUbu: please ask in #ubuntu+1 for edgy stuff
[05:21] <feross> constantine-xvi: you should try DSL for that
[05:21] <vanhtu1987> erUSUL: linux headers that's it! Thank you.
[05:22] <sc0tt> hey folks :>
[05:22] <erUSUL> vanhtu1987: no problem
[05:22] <baxter_kylie> segfault: Ahh, thanks just the same, more or less just thinking aloud. I'm just going to assume as such.
[05:24] <Raul654> is there a user-level equivalent to /etc/hosts?
[05:24] <Raul654> so that a non-root user can define his own hostnames?
[05:25] <ifrozen> hali
[05:25] <erUSUL> Raul654: no, afaik
[05:26] <roberts> I'm trying to compile libvisual-projectM and ./configure is giving me this error: "WARNING: *** No OpenGL found.       projectm plugin will not be built."
[05:26] <fyrestrtr> Raul654: no
[05:26] <Raul654> damn
[05:26] <Tokenbad> ok friend has ubuntu system....he shut it down...moved it...and restarted...now its not connecting to anything and comes up with a box at bootup about not being able to save sessions...any ideas?
[05:26] <roberts> "configure: error: conditional "HAVE_LIB_GL" was never defined."
[05:26] <rockbadger> hi there... sound didn't work when i turned my computer on today... totem gives the error "could not establish connection with sound server" - help anyone?
[05:26] <segfault> rockbadger, sounds like esd isnt runnin
[05:27] <fyrestrtr> roberts: you probably want libgl1-mesa-dev
[05:27] <rockbadger> segfault, how can i tell/fix? don't quite see why it would suddenly happen
[05:28] <segfault> rockbadger, ps -A | grep esd, if no ouput no esd running
[05:28] <roberts> fyrestrtr: I have that package installed, version 6.4.1-0ubuntu
[05:28] <segfault> rockbadger, then to fix esd&
[05:29] <roberts> I even have libglu1-mesa-dev
[05:29] <rockbadger> yup, no esd
[05:29] <fyrestrtr> roberts: what about glitz?
[05:29] <fyrestrtr> roberts: look in the readme or install files to find out what it needs exactly
[05:30] <craigbass1976> I can't apt-get install xchat.  Is there something more I'm supposed to be doing?
[05:30] <fyrestrtr> !universe > craigbass1976
[05:30] <fyrestrtr> craigbass1976: see the message from the bot
[05:31] <diminthedam> my liteon dvdrw reads dvds but not cds. could someone help?
[05:31] <rockbadger> segfault - how do i fix esd?
[05:31] <fyrestrtr> diminthedam: audio cds or data cds?
[05:32] <segfault> rockbadger, to start esd run esd&
[05:32] <rockbadger> ah
[05:32] <ardchoille> diminthedam: Some of those don't have the capability to read CD's, I ran into a few DVD-R drives that don't read CD's. Are you sure your does?
[05:32] <khaled_hosny>  does any one know how to get the src .deb of gfxmenu that is used in dapper CD ?
[05:32] <roberts> fyrestrtr: Installing glitz and it's dev packages didn't help.  How do I tell if direct rendering is enabled for my current setup?
[05:32] <fyrestrtr> roberts: glxinfo | grep direct
[05:33] <roberts> It says yes
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> then its enabled.
[05:33] <Tokenbad> ok friend has ubuntu system....he shut it down...moved it...and restarted...now its not connecting to anything and comes up with a box at bootup about not being able to save sessions...any ideas?
[05:33] <roberts> Right... so why would it complain about not having OpenGL?
[05:33] <diminthedam> ardchoille: it did read cd a few days ago
[05:33] <mtyhome> hi
[05:33] <ardchoille> diminthedam: Oh, ok
[05:33] <Tokenbad> He thinks its not getting the internal ip on the network...
[05:33] <Hattori> !wireless
[05:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:33] <JackDanielz> are there any linux distros which come with 1000hz kernel timer stock?
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> roberts: its missing some dev libs that it needs, find out what it wants by reading the install and/or readme files that came with the source tarball
[05:34] <roberts> fyrestrtr: I've already checked and they were of no use.
[05:34] <mtyhome> i was trying to boot xubuntu install from usb key... and can't figure out why debconf keeps searching for the cdrom instead of reading from mounted key
[05:34] <fyrestrtr> roberts: what is this thing anyway?
[05:34] <Tokenbad> or anyone know how to renew internal ip in ubuntu?
[05:34] <fyrestrtr> Tokenbad: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:35] <trappist> Tokenbad: sudo dhclient
[05:35] <fyrestrtr> roberts: and where did you get it?
[05:35] <samAA> fyrestrtr: that would kill the network 1st
[05:35] <roberts> projectM is a cross-platform reimplementation of the famous music visualizer called Milkdrop.  I've already installed projectM itself, but now I'm trying to install the libvisual plugin so I can use it with Amarok.
[05:35] <mtyhome> nobody can help??
[05:35] <rockbadger> segfault - have run that but still getting error... output for  ps -A | grep esd is  "[1] +  Exit 2                  esd"
[05:35] <roberts> The source tarball from the official website.  And yes, it does use libviusal 0.4.0
[05:35] <fyrestrtr> roberts: where did you get projectM from? repos?
[05:36] <segfault> rockbadger, try just esd (without the &)
[05:36] <samAA> mtyhome: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <roberts> Nope, from projectM's site.  UNfortunately it's not in the Ubuntu OR Debian repos yet, but it's pretty much the best visualizer by far.
[05:36] <segfault> rockbadger, i always forget what spawns its own daemon and what doesnt
[05:36] <roberts> http://xmms-projectm.sourceforge.net/
[05:36] <roberts> l
[05:36] <fyrestrtr> roberts: hrmm, I suspect you might need the source files for that also.
[05:37] <roberts> Source files for what?
[05:37] <rockbadger> segfault - same problem, except no return for ps function now either
[05:37] <mtyhome> samAA: i'm talking about sys install, not packages when you already have ubuntu installed
[05:37] <diminthedam> ardchoille: do you know how i can reload the drivers for it?
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> roberts: projectm
[05:38] <Jaak_> when i try to install a deb file, i get ask for administrative rights but he doesn't ask for a passwd
[05:38] <Jaak_> now i just don't work
[05:39] <roberts> fyrestrtr: I have the source tarball for both libprojectM, the main projectM files (installed fine), and libvisual-projectM which is the source for the libvisual plugin (failing at ./configure)
[05:39] <diminthedam> does anyone know how i can re-install my cdrom drivers?
[05:39] <fyrestrtr> roberts: what is the exact line it fails on
[05:39] <godzirra> Can anyone tell me what I need to install to get the header filesl ike stdio.h etc for GCC?
[05:39] <fyrestrtr> diminthedam: cdroms don't have drivers -- they are built into the kernel.
[05:39] <roberts> During the ./configure process?
[05:39] <fyrestrtr> roberts: yes
[05:39] <mtyhome> please help
[05:40] <diminthedam> fyrestrtr: but what if it has gone funny? not reading cds, but dvds are ok
[05:40] <khaled_hosny> godzirra: I think it is "glibc-dev" ot so
[05:40] <roberts> checking whether to build lv_projectm plugin... yes==configure: WARNING: *** No OpenGL found.==projectm plugin will not be built.==configure: error: conditional "HAVE_LIB_GL" was never defined.==Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally.
[05:40] <roberts> The == denotes a line break
[05:40] <godzirra> khaled_hosny: I dont have a glibc-dev
[05:41] <godzirra> atleast not according to apt-cache search
[05:41] <dave__> anyone else have this problem? i try to run anything from the system/admin menu and it just hangs up, but running the same things from a command prompt works fine
[05:41] <dave__> any idea?
[05:41] <Sasuk3> http://vergil.chemistry.gatech.edu/resources/programming/c-tutorial/pointers.html
[05:41] <khaled_hosny> godzirra: tray "glibc" or "libc" I'm not sure, I'm not a debian user ;)
[05:41] <Tokenbad> what is .dmrc dir?
[05:42] <godzirra> I'm using ubuntu :)
[05:42] <Sasuk3> z0mg really?
[05:42] <Sasuk3> XD
[05:42] <rockbadger> segfault - any idea why it's not working?
[05:42] <mtyhome> i was trying to boot xubuntu install from usb key... and can't figure out why debconf keeps searching for the cdrom instead of reading from mounted key
[05:42] <Sasuk3> i'm using slax backtrack 1.0
[05:42] <fyrestrtr> godzirra: roberts hrmm, what options do you have with ./configure? You might just need to pass it the correct path.
[05:42] <mtyhome> Sasuk3: backtrack rocks
[05:42] <mtyhome> :)
[05:42] <Sasuk3> inDe_eD
[05:43] <Sasuk3> :P
[05:43] <segfault> rockbadger, not really, maybe a bigger sounds issue, try restart ing x or ur pc
[05:43] <godzirra> fyrestrtr: huh?
[05:43] <Hattori> how to see vurrent version of the kernel installed?
[05:43] <diminthedam> fyrestrtr: so then, how do fix a software fault with cdrom?
[05:43] <Hattori> what was the command?
[05:43] <Hattori> *current
[05:43] <fyrestrtr> godzirra: sorry, wrong person :)
[05:43] <godzirra> I just need to know how to get stdio.h and other headers installed
[05:43] <godzirra> ahh ok
[05:43] <ardchoille> Hattori: uname -r
[05:43] <rockbadger> segfault - i will try an older kernel (i'm on dapper lts, shouldn't be the problem but i'll try...)
[05:43] <Hattori> thx
[05:43] <Sasuk3> build-essential
[05:43] <fyrestrtr> diminthedam: there is no software fault. Is it refusing to read data CDs or audio CDs or both?
[05:43] <roberts> fyrestrtr: I'm not quite sure, the README and INSTALL files don't specify.  I had to install a bunch of *x11*-dev packages to install the libprojectM so I think I may just need some other *-dev packages, I just don't know which ones.
[05:44] <ardchoille> Hattori: You can see more stuff with uname -a
[05:44] <Sasuk3> godzirra apt-get install build-essential
[05:44] <diminthedam> fyrestrtr: its refusing to read any CDs but DVDs are ok! thats the problem
[05:44] <godzirra> Sasuk3: thank you
[05:44] <Sasuk3> godzirra build-essential comes with the libs,headers and the gcc compiler ;)
[05:45] <godzirra> awesome :)
[05:45] <godzirra> wow.  its noon already.
[05:45] <fyrestrtr> roberts: well without downloading the thing and goign through it myself, I can't tell you much. Other than potshots at what to try, like x11proto-gl-dev
[05:46] <samAA> dave__: cmd prompt how, does sudo network-admin prompt for passwd / work what about gksu network-admin
[05:47] <diminthedam> fyrestrtr: sorry for bugging u, but i am stuck. My drive reads DVDs but not CDs. Any ideas?
[05:47] <fyrestrtr> diminthedam: what is the last thing you did before it stopped working?
[05:48] <Jaak_> how do install a deb file under su?
[05:48] <diminthedam> fyrestrtr: no idea. i noticed when trying to burn an ISO from nero linux
[05:48] <gpled> if i cat /proc/partitions i can see all the partitions.   is their a way i can see what the file types (ntfs, ext3, fat32, ...) are, with out mounting them?
[05:49] <Lunar_Lamp> Jaak_ - "dpkg -i FILE"
[05:49] <dave__> user and groups, services,and network under the administration menu in gnome just freeze up when i open them, anyoen know why this would happen?
[05:49] <dave__> it didnt do it yesterday, now today it is
[05:50] <fyrestrtr> gpled: fdisk -l /dev/somedevice
[05:50] <oskude> gpled: sudo cfdisk
[05:51] <samAA> dave__: wht happens with gksu ls
[05:52] <Tokenbad> my friends inet has quit working in ubuntu...anyone know a way to fix it?
[05:52] <mluser-work> How do I tell aptitude to update an a .deb file which is in a local dir?
[05:53] <oskude> mluser-work: you use "dpkg -i filename" for that...
[05:53] <theunruled> hello, is there any text based file browser?
[05:53] <mluser-work> Oh.. so I shouldnt use aptitude to do the updates either?
[05:53] <theunruled> Something like Aptitude
[05:53] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i start ubuntu costumization kit? i have isntalled it, but no "uck" command found
[05:54] <highneko> How lock screen from terminal?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> mluser-work: a deb that you installed if not in the ubuntu repos will not be updated along with the rest
[05:54] <scheuri> hi all
[05:54] <ChaosFan> highneko: xlock
[05:54] <ardchoille> Is mutt the best cli mua? Is there a better app for this?
[05:54] <mluser-work> gnomefreak: thank you :)
[05:54] <ChaosFan> !best
[05:54] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:54] <gnomefreak> mluser-work: yw
[05:54] <oskude> mluser-work: yes, but apt-get/aptitude is for using repos, they cant (afaik) install local debs, so you use dpkg for that
[05:54] <ardchoille> ChaosFan: Ah, yes, good point
[05:54] <highneko> bash: xlock: command not found
[05:54] <mluser-work> oskude: thanks :)
[05:54] <ChaosFan> highneko: you have to install it
[05:55] <highneko> Not possible without this?
[05:55] <theunruled> ChaosFan: does xlock hybernate too?
[05:55] <diminthedam> does anyone know of a cdrom diagnostic tool?
[05:55] <ChaosFan> theunruled: what do you mean by "hybernate"?
[05:55] <oskude> mluser-work: so if you install a package from a downloaded deb (and is not in ubuntu repos) _you_ have to update that package manually (if needed)
[05:55] <theunruled> ChaosFan: hybernate laptop
[05:55] <mluser-work> oskude: got it :)
[05:55] <Ioh> how do i run wow on ubuntu
[05:55] <Ioh> ?
[05:55] <ChaosFan> theunruled: you mean suspend to disk? no
[05:56] <fyrestrtr> theunruled: midnight commander
[05:56] <ChaosFan> highneko: i don't know another way
[05:56] <scheuri> loh: there are many How-To's in forums...I thought there was one at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:56] <ChaosFan> highneko: but that doesn't mean that there isn't another one
[05:57] <highneko> ChaosFan: Ok, thanks ;)
[06:00] <theunrul1d> damn internet
[06:00] <FnuggleMaster> Hey
[06:00] <Khamael> hello FnuggleMaster
[06:00] <FnuggleMaster> If I add a camera to my PC, I can import images from it, but if I wish to export TO it, how would I do that? Where is it mounted?
[06:00] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: Hello!
[06:01] <scheuri> theunrul1d: dont blame the internet, its for porn only anyway...;)
[06:01] <Khamael> FnuggleMaster: check /media
[06:01] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: sec..
[06:01] <Khamael> FnuggleMaster: it might be mounted as a drive in /media. then it`s just a matter og dragndrop
[06:03] <Kuto2> i installed linux-sources but i cant find /usr/src/linux-xxxxx folder to configure my own kernel can someone help pls
[06:04] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: It is _not_ in /media
[06:04] <Khamael> FnuggleMaster: /mnt?
[06:04] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: Ah, yes, sec!
[06:05] <steven43126> hi
[06:05] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: Nothing
[06:05] <Khamael> FnuggleMaster: what program do you use to import the images?
[06:06] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: The one Ubuntu uses as default, that import wiz
[06:06] <Khamael> FnuggleMaster: what does "df -h" say?
[06:06] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: lemme just get my irssi screened to that PC, so I can do it whilst typing irc..
[06:07] <roadster3043> hello everyone. I'm trying to download software updates in ubuntu 6.06LTS and I get the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1.8.0-0.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/liblavplay-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a
[06:07] <diminthedam> i cant get my cdrom drive to read CDs. It reads DVDs ok though http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25734/
[06:07] <SoH|TonyL> sorry to bother you people but... what is this network all about? linux or more than that?
[06:07] <steven43126> whats the best way to read data in a script from a pipe so far im just using data=`cat` but when i pipe echo "test!..!" | ./myscript i get the following error -bash: !..!": event not found?
[06:08] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: what network ? freenode.org ?
[06:08] <SoH|TonyL> yes
[06:08] <SoH|TonyL> well i connected through freenode.net
[06:09] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: What do you want from df -h?
[06:09] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, it is about whatever the users make it about. Mostly OSS though.
[06:09] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: read at http://freenode.net/ "Freenode provides discussion facilities for the Free and Open Source Software communities, for not-for-profit organizations and for related communities and organizations."
[06:09] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: Ubuntu uses gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h tp start that wizard
[06:09] <SoH|TonyL> thanks
[06:09] <samAA> steven43126: missing echo @ the begining
[06:09] <Khamael> FnuggleMaster: df -h lists all your drives... see if one of them looks like your camera
[06:10] <Khamael> size or name
[06:10] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: None
[06:10] <FnuggleMaster> My card is 512 mb, they are all 110 mb and  19 gb ( / )
[06:10] <steven43126> samAA, sorry i don't understand can you explain ?
[06:10] <Khamael> FnuggleMaster: then I don`t know. my camera mounts as a drive.
[06:11] <SoH|TonyL> oskude sounds like socialism =P
[06:11] <SoH|TonyL> the definition of freenode
[06:11] <FnuggleMaster> Khamael: Right, thanks anyway!
[06:11] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: dunno, dont know what that is...
[06:11] <samAA> steven43126: echo "lsdkjlkd" | script
[06:11] <SoH|TonyL> ok nvm
[06:12] <SoH|TonyL> may i ask a stupid but important question?
[06:12] <steven43126> samAA, yeh i got the bit the command im typing is: echo "test!..!" | myscript
[06:12] <Zarephath> Here is my error message: error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable error: could not execute pmount  why would it think hda is removable? How do I fix this?
[06:12] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, there is a lot of socialistic idealism in OSS but this is not really the venue for that discussion. ;-)
[06:12] <oskude> !ask > SoH|TonyL
[06:12] <steven43126> samAA, it seems to work fine if i leave out . or ! seems to be interpreting them as having a special meaning ?
[06:13] <SoH|TonyL> ok i just got adverted oskude =P sorr
[06:13] <harisund> Anybody uses TV Tuner cards with Ubuntu?
[06:13] <steven43126> the script simply attempts to read the pipe and echo back the output
[06:13] <SoH|TonyL> well
[06:13] <FnuggleMaster> I cannot find my camera drive on my Pc, and i wish to export images to it.. I can use that wizard to IMPORT, yet not EXPORT :/
[06:13] <FnuggleMaster> How will I fix?
[06:14] <oskude> harisund: i had (still have 2 cards, but not installed atm), the trick is to load the right tuner
[06:14] <lillpelle> harisund: yes, but I am not totally satisfied as it is here right now.
[06:14] <harisund> oskude, hmm.. ok .. so assuming it is recognized out of the box what do I do? Just plug the cable that goes to the TV into the card.. and then use what on Ubuntu?
[06:14] <harisund> lillpelle, is your problem with the drivers? Or the quality?
[06:14] <samAA> steven43126: try echo 'test!..!' | script
[06:14] <magda> hola adrian s
[06:15] <steven43126> FnuggleMaster, after you have connected the camera type dmesg at the prompt and see if it has been detected and which driver is been loaded
[06:15] <lillpelle> harisund: it is a sound problem when I want to record TV and then play. something gets corrupted...
[06:15] <Tokenbad> my friends inet has quit working in ubuntu...anyone know a way to fix it?
[06:15] <oskude> harisund: mine was not plug-and-play (the tuner part, but composite/svideo in worked)... "tvtime" is quite nice tv watching tool
[06:15] <harisund> lillpelle, ah ok .. but what about just watching and not recording?
[06:15] <SoH|TonyL> i would like to know a good linux "mod" (?) for someone that is used to windows but still curious about linux. it should be a mod that can run MSN or a program that connects to MSN...
[06:15] <harisund> oskude, tvtime.. ok will check it out .. I don't have a TV here (but a cable connection yes) and I was thinking about using my Ubuntu box for watching TV.. so just wanted an opinion
[06:15] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, Kopete
[06:15] <oskude> harisund: fyi: that was under hoary, so dapper may have better regocnition
[06:15] <trappist> SoH|TonyL: gaim
[06:15] <lillpelle> harisund: there are several programs for that. (tvtime, zapping, xawtv, mplayer, ...) I use mplayer right now.
[06:16] <SoH|TonyL> and free ;)
[06:16] <harisund> oskude, ok cool.. lillpelle mplayer works too? Neat....
[06:16] <oskude> harisund: if you have a card that is supported, it works like a charm!
[06:16] <deFrysk> gaim kopete and if you want a lookalike use amsn
[06:16] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, presuming you mean MSN instant messaging.
[06:16] <lillpelle> harisund: mplayer always works ;)
[06:16] <SoH|TonyL> yes, IM =)
[06:16] <SoH|TonyL> well
[06:16] <harisund> thanks oskude and lillpelle ... I will do some more research on the cards.. btw, is there an ndiswrapper equivalent sort of for TVTuner cards?
[06:17] <FnuggleMaster> steven43126: [17187744.176000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[06:17] <oskude> !msn > SoH|TonyL
[06:17] <deFrysk> SoH|TonyL, amsn is the lookalike of messenger
[06:17] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, I use Kopete to be available in MSNIM for my clients that are on Window$. Works fine.
[06:17] <deFrysk> gaim rules even on a kde desktop
[06:17] <steven43126> samAA, thanks it works thought it was a problem with the script not the input ! ta mate
[06:17] <FnuggleMaster> deFrysk: It
[06:17] <SoH|TonyL> i dont think i could express myself in a way u could understand what i meant
[06:17] <FnuggleMaster> deFrysk: Its behind on the MSN protocol
[06:17] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, I also use it with AIM and Jabber.
[06:17] <FnuggleMaster> deFrysk: Will soon be upgraded though
[06:18] <deFrysk> on edgy eft
[06:18] <samAA> steven43126: no worries
[06:18] <boink> gaim works quite well with MSN
[06:18] <steven43126> FnuggleMaster, you would see something about a usb bock device if it was capable of been mounted as a removable drive
[06:18] <oskude> harisund: this maybe of some help http://www.linux.com/howtos/BTTV/modprobe.shtml
[06:18] <FnuggleMaster> boink: Yes yes
[06:18] <FnuggleMaster> steven43126: in /dev/?
[06:18] <Tokenbad> please anyone know why inet would quit working after a reboot?
[06:18] <eracc> Of the two, GAIM and Kopete, I prefer Kopete. I've used both.
[06:18] <harisund> awesome oskude! Thanks a ton.
[06:18] <boink> on tv cards, you need to make sure the module is using the right tuner
[06:18] <harisund> ok boink..
[06:19] <steven43126> FnuggleMaster, check out the camera some have options you ca set as to wether it operates in camera mode or USB Drive mode
[06:19] <SoH|TonyL> i dont have any linux yet. i need linux first. i just downloaded mandriva, suse and foresight. should i use one of them or another one? i need one that is free, ofc =)
[06:19] <boink> that's up to you. opensource is about free choice
[06:19] <oskude> harisund: and maybe this wiki too http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Cardlist.BTTV
[06:19] <eracc> Tokenbad, many many reasons why networking would stop working. Just saying it stopped makes diagnosis difficult.
[06:19] <boink> try each one and see which one you like
[06:20] <steven43126> if it's capable of been mounted as a drive, look in /var/log/syslog and you should see messages about the drive been recognized usually usb devices shouw up as sda sdb etc etc
[06:20] <deFrysk> SoH|TonyL, try ubuntu
[06:20] <Tokenbad> eracc, well not sure how to find out any more info....he can't connect to anything
[06:20] <FnuggleMaster> steven43126: It does not
[06:20] <deFrysk> SoH|TonyL, it rules
[06:20] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, this is the Ubuntu Linux distribution channel. What do you think we will say? :-p
[06:20] <SoH|TonyL> mhm when i checked redhat.com, it said i have to pay for it. isnt opensource free?
[06:20] <SoH|TonyL> ^^
[06:20] <boink> redhat is commericial
[06:20] <boink> fedora is the free redhat
[06:20] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: the "free" version of redhat is called "fedora core"
[06:20] <eracc> The "free" Rd Hat is Fedora
[06:20] <deFrysk> open source is free the services are not always free
[06:20] <FnuggleMaster> SoH|TonyL: I don't use Ubuntu, but I'll recommend it :)
[06:20] <inma> hola zorro
[06:21] <SoH|TonyL> is any of those i mentioned commercial aswell?
[06:21] <Khamael> isn`t there an e17 install script somewhere?
[06:21] <boink> SuSe is commericial too
[06:21] <FnuggleMaster> SoH|TonyL: I use Gentoo, but for people that just want it to work, Ubuntu is the only way to go :)
[06:21] <inma> noentiendo tu lengua
[06:21] <boink> and Mandravia is commericial as well
[06:21] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: suse has commercial and community versions, dunno about the others...
[06:21] <SoH|TonyL> well i should have asked in a neutral channel ;x
[06:21] <collin> My server will boot Ubuntu but not Ubuntu server? any ideas
[06:21] <webben> Ubuntu is rather nice.
[06:21] <steven43126> FnuggleMaster, if it's not capable of operating as a drive  it will more than likely use some propertairy protocol, there are open source drivers out there that can communicate with these cameras but i have no experince with them
[06:21] <inma> tonto que no te entiendo
[06:21] <SoH|TonyL> ok ill try ubuntu ^^
[06:21] <deFrysk> mandriva would not be my first choice as any rpm based distro
[06:21] <SoH|TonyL> ok
[06:21] <boink> inma: no hablamos espanol aqui
[06:21] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, all the "commercial" releases I know about have OSS "free" counterparts. The fees one pays are usually for support and access to non-free software.
[06:21] <ladydoor> !es > inma
[06:21] <webben> SoH|TonyL, compared to my epxeriences with Fedora/Slackware/Debian
[06:22] <boink> !tell iman about es
[06:22] <FnuggleMaster> steven43126: Right. Thanks for trying
[06:22] <kromel> SoH|TonyL, ubuntu helped me convert 4 people this past month from Windows.
[06:22] <roadster3043> hello everyone. I'm trying to download software updates in ubuntu 6.06LTS and I get the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1.8.0-0.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/liblavplay-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a how can I correct this?
[06:22] <inma> que idioma hablais
[06:22] <ladydoor> inma: hay canal espaola:  #ubuntu
[06:22] <steven43126> FnuggleMaster, np out of curiosity what make / model is it ?
[06:22] <boink> !tell inma about es
[06:22] <SoH|TonyL> ok kromel that helps alot in my choice ;)
[06:22] <ladydoor> inma: hablamos ingles.
[06:22] <boink> aqui se hablar ingles
[06:22] <webben> SoH|TonyL, Ubuntu is nice enough that I not only use it as a server, but also am considering moving my mom to it.
[06:22] <kromel> lol
[06:23] <FnuggleMaster> steven43126: Canon Powershot A420
[06:23] <inma> y como que sabes muy bien espaol
[06:23] <boink> !es
[06:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:23] <JackDanielz> are there any linux distros which come with 1000hz kernel timer stock?
[06:23] <SoH|TonyL> how big should the partition for ubuntulinux be? is 6.77gb enough?
[06:23] <deFrysk> did anyone see last the daily show with Jon Steward ? The computer used ran on Linux Gnome with the Gimp !!!
[06:23] <deFrysk> love that show :)
[06:23] <boink> 6.77 gig is enuf
[06:23] <SoH|TonyL> thanks
[06:23] <inma> porque no me contestas
[06:23] <boink> but 6.77 gig is not very much
[06:23] <magda> hola quiere hablar alguien con migo
[06:23] <Tokenbad> well could someone maybe help me figure out why inet would stop after reboot...or how should go about finding out why?
[06:24] <collin> My computer won't load the ubuntu server cd
[06:24] <boink> !tell magda about es
[06:24] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, that is big enough for playing. I'd give it more once I got serious about using it and replacing Window$.
[06:24] <ijii> any have time to help a first timer on installing Ubuntu?
[06:24] <macluvjay> anybody have a date for edgy's release?
[06:24] <inma> si yo hablo con tigo magda
[06:24] <boink> !schedule
[06:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:24] <oskude> roadster3043: i think it could help if you do "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" on the console and pastebin the results (and commands)
[06:24] <macluvjay> i think the beta was the 28th
[06:24] <ladydoor> inma: #ubuntu-es es el canal para gente hispanohablante. Vayan all, por favor.
[06:24] <deFrysk>  macluvjay somehere between now and this month :)
[06:24] <collin> edgy release is oct 26
[06:24] <SoH|TonyL> administrator_: is ubuntu easier to delete than windows? i have a 15gb partition for windows just cuz i have to format it when i want to delete windows =(
[06:24] <inma> de donde ers
[06:24] <deFrysk> ah 26
[06:24] <magda> hola bik
[06:24] <deFrysk> cool
[06:25] <deFrysk> !es
[06:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:25] <collin> according to wikipedia
[06:25] <inma> yo hablo con tigo magda
[06:25] <SoH|TonyL> i didnt mean to ask "administrator" guy
[06:25] <roadster3043> oksude: thanks i'll try that
[06:25] <SoH|TonyL> that question is for anyone
[06:25] <inma> tio de donde eres
[06:25] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, every OS is "easy" to delete as long as one knows how. ;-)
[06:26] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: you can delete any partition (regardless whats there) very easily...
[06:26] <ijii> I just tried installing ubuntu and immediately i get errors such as:  [17179843.912000]  hc: timeout waiting for DMA
[06:26] <deFrysk> SoH|TonyL, windows cannot see linux so you wil have to repartition
[06:26] <SoH|TonyL> hehe formatting =P
[06:26] <magda> quiere hablar alguien con migo
[06:26] <ijii> or hdc: drive not ready for command
[06:26] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: please rephrase...
[06:26] <SoH|TonyL> well once i had kurumin linux it started automaticly before windows =P
[06:26] <collin> I have a pentium 4 and i can't get it to boot off the ubuntu server cd, it boots off of the regular ubuntu cd just fine, can anyone help me out? please
[06:26] <SoH|TonyL> ok ill rephrase
[06:27] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, if all else fails one can backup data and use the drive manufacturer's test tools that do a destructive write test of the drive.
[06:27] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: of course, windows dont know how to boot linux, so linux has to do it (and booting windows)
[06:27] <Timmy|GDS> Yo, I got a serious problem
[06:27] <Sasuk3> Command to see my GFX rendering?
[06:27] <deFrysk> windows tends to ignore any other os
[06:27] <Timmy|GDS> I changed my repos to edgy and did a apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:27] <boink> of course
[06:27] <Sasuk3> command for see my gfx accel.. etc
[06:27] <Sasuk3> plz
[06:27] <boink> !gfk
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gfk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <ladydoor> inma: Ud. est en un canal de ayuda, no de conversacin. por favor usan los mensajes privadas para conversar en temas otro que ayudo con la computadora.
[06:28] <Sasuk3> !gfx
[06:28] <oskude> Sasuk3: glxgears ?
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <eracc> SoH|TonyL, you can choose which OS to boot from a multi-boot window on startup of your PC. You can also set which one boots by default.
[06:28] <SoH|TonyL> i have a windows partition of 15gb, a normal one of 90gb and another of 6.77gb. i was thinking about installing it in the 6.77gb one because i dont really want to migrate. im just curious
[06:28] <ladydoor> inma: :-)
[06:28] <Sasuk3> mm cool xD
[06:28] <aftertaf> collin: try booting another pc with it, or redownload and reburn it ...
[06:28] <boink> then 6.77 gig would be fine
[06:28] <SoH|TonyL> is that a good idea?
[06:28] <SoH|TonyL> okay thanks
[06:28] <inma> maleny que haces
[06:28] <collin> it boot my other computer just fine
[06:28] <qatsi> good morning !...is anyone having troubble with the fglrx driver for ati ?
[06:28] <boink> you could see what ubuntu/gnome is all about
[06:28] <collin> and i also did the cd check
[06:28] <Timmy|GDS> X wont work, and im stuck at a terminal, which i dont mind, i like me some ascii ;), but irssi, vi, and links can only be so fun
[06:28] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: looks ok
[06:29] <inma> sabes quien soy
[06:29] <SoH|TonyL> thanks folks =)
[06:29] <ijii> wtf, ubuntu doesn't support any ABIT motherboards?
[06:29] <inma> nagdalena contesta
[06:29] <collin> i redownloaded it as well and it still won't read the cd at boot
[06:29] <kromel> SoH|TonyL, I installed Ubuntu on a cheap box and made it a TeamSpeak server, and the Hard Drive was only 5 gig.
[06:29] <ladydoor> Timmy|GDS: there's a #ubuntu+1 channel for edgy support. but you might start out by trying sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core
[06:30] <inma> porque no mantienes una conversacin con migo magda
[06:30] <Timmy|GDS> thanks ladydoor
[06:30] <eracc> Heh, "only 5 gig". Man I feel old. :-P
[06:30] <ladydoor> Timmy|GDS: np.
[06:30] <SoH|TonyL> cool even switzerland has a mirror for ubuntu ^^
[06:30] <inma> contestame por favor
[06:30] <qatsi> does anyone here knows if there are issues with the fglrx driver for ati right now ?
[06:30] <warpzone> hey guys, any recommedations for supported sound cards? hoping to do some audio recording
[06:30] <boink> !sound
[06:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:30] <inma> mira lo que te estoy escribiendo
[06:31] <mama> i have a printer problem....when i try to add my printer it  dectects it but when i try to get to the naxt page to get the manufavtor nothing shows up the only options i have is to install a driver or cancel....any suggestions
[06:31] <boink> most Creatives work well, but I'm not sure about the newer ones
[06:31] <ijii> has anybody installed UBUNTU with an ABIT motherboard?
[06:31] <collin> what is the difference between the boot sequence of ubuntu and ubuntu server that might be causing me problems
[06:31] <warpzone> boink: alright, thats what I've been looking at. thanks man
[06:31] <inma> hay algien espaol que quiera hablar con migo
[06:31] <fuoco> anyone got an ibook ?
[06:31] <SoH|TonyL> is there something vital i need to know before insalling ubuntu?
[06:31] <tempest2k4> anybody no whet this error is when loading xgl and compiz ? libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: Unable to determine the address of the message bus (try 'man dbus-launch' and 'man dbus-daemon' for help)
[06:31] <inma> maleny que buscas
[06:31] <warpzone> qatsi: fglrx IS an issue in itself. you'll find most Linux users wouldn't touch an ATi card with a ten-foot pole
[06:32] <fuoco> SoH|TonyL: backup everything :)
[06:32] <aftertaf> anyone know how to revert root navigation to normal mode?
[06:32] <fuoco> SoH|TonyL: and i mean everything :)
[06:32] <inma> con quien estas chateando
[06:32] <warpzone> SoH|TonyL: whatever you do, DONT use the included repartitioning tool :-P
[06:32] <fuoco> aftertaf: what's root navigation
[06:32] <ladydoor> aftertaf: did you su/sudo -i to root, or log in?
[06:32] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: know about partitioning and master boot record... ubuntu minimal needs 2 partitions, one for / and one for swap...
[06:32] <SoH|TonyL> the partition is empty so there is nothing to backup =)
[06:32] <ubuntu_> e ale czemu nikt tu nie gada po polsku?
[06:32] <fuoco> warpzone: why not?
[06:32] <SoH|TonyL> aw 2 partitions?
[06:32] <boink> !tell ubuntu_ about pl
[06:32] <inma> contestame por favor
[06:33] <SoH|TonyL> why that? =(
[06:33] <aftertaf> in edgy, i open konqueror and i see hardly any folders
[06:33] <aftertaf> same for gnomers too
[06:33] <fuoco> SoH|TonyL: you need at least 3 for ubuntu or any other linux
[06:33] <boink> nie mowimy po polsku tataj
[06:33] <inma> llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[06:33] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: without dualboot installation would be even easier than windows...
[06:33] <boink> !pl
[06:33] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:33] <SoH|TonyL> that is insane
[06:33] <warpzone> fuoco: if you are moving partitions around and have a windows partition, it overwrites your master file table
[06:33] <inma> porque cierras tanto
[06:33] <zim_> hi all i as this question every month is the hope somthing will be done and im not the only mad man out here who like the look of iFolders and would love to see it packaged
[06:33] <magda> hola quiere hablar alguien con migo
[06:33] <oskude> fuoco: 3 partitions ?
[06:33] <ladydoor> could somebody kick the troll? i've told him about private messages and about #ubuntu-es *in spanish* and he's still wanting to randomly chat in here?
[06:33] <fuoco> SoH|TonyL: no that's a very good thing - you will learn to appreciate that
[06:33] <ladydoor> *not a question
[06:34] <collin> on my laptop i lost my multimedia boot option for quickplay dvds when I dual booted with ubuntu. Is there any way to recover that?
[06:34] <fuoco> oskude: at least
[06:34] <zim_> is there any plans to package iFolders as a .deb
[06:34] <boink> !op
[06:34] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:34] <deFrysk> ijii, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBMCXCwfD3c&mode=related&search= a show about installing ubuntu on a pc with an ABIT mobo
[06:34] <inma> yo quiero hablar con tigo
[06:34] <usuario> MARI
[06:34] <oskude> fuoco: you dont _need_ 3 partitions, just one for / and one for swap!
[06:34] <usuario> MARI
[06:34] <usuario> MARI
[06:34] <boink> I guess the ops are asleep
[06:34] <inma> mari quien eres
[06:34] <AstralJava> Hey guys, anyone using gaim in Edgy here?
[06:34] <inma> hello
[06:34] <deFrysk> AstralJava, yes
[06:34] <Rez> boink: what's up?
[06:34] <collin> on my laptop i lost my multimedia boot option for quickplay dvds when I dual booted with ubuntu. Is there any way to recover that?
[06:34] <fuoco> oskude: you're right for i386, yeah. other's might need a seperate /boot
[06:34] <ladydoor> angelo: there's a #ubuntu+1 channel for edgy support :-)
[06:35] <warpzone> holy crap this is chaotic, see you guys in #kubuntu
[06:35] <SoH|TonyL> ok so i need 2 partitions of how much GB? i dont want to lose all my video files in the main partition for that =p
[06:35] <usuario> Y YO CON TIGO
[06:35] <magda> hello
[06:35] <deFrysk> SoH|TonyL, partition wit be set up automaticly
[06:35] <aftertaf> !es
[06:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:35] <AstralJava> deFrysk: Have you accidentally detached tabs in it? If still yes, how can one re-attach them in the main window?
[06:35] <collin> on my laptop i lost my multimedia boot option for quickplay dvds when I dual booted with ubuntu. Is there any way to recover that?
[06:35] <warpzone> SoH|TonyL: they're small partitions, just a few megs, don't worry you'll be fine
[06:35] <ladydoor> aftertaf: they're trolls, possibly just one. they're making the same spanish spelling erros.
[06:35] <ladydoor> *errors
[06:35] <zim_> look at this xgl video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws
[06:35] <ubuntu_> galupe dermato gulipa santyka
[06:36] <silent_scream> what is the command to mute gnomeradio from console????
[06:36] <nalioth> !tell ubuntu_ about pl
[06:36] <aftertaf> hi nalioth  :)
[06:36] <nalioth> howdy aftertaf
[06:36] <deFrysk> AstralJava, nope
[06:36] <Intangir> whats the command to get the IP of PCs on the network from their windows networking computer name?
[06:36] <SoH|TonyL> warpzone then ill change the 6.77gb partition to a 6gb and a 0.77gb. is that good?
[06:36] <Sasuk3> Intagir netstat
[06:36] <aftertaf> nalioth: you know about the new root view in edgy?
[06:36] <usuario> ME LLAMO MARI
[06:37] <zim_> has anyone in here looked at ifolders at all
[06:37] <Intangir> how do i do it with netstat?
[06:37] <Sasuk3> net users
[06:37] <Sasuk3> net view
[06:37] <Sasuk3> Ips' users and conections stats
[06:37] <nalioth> aftertaf: ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:37] <aftertaf> i have :)
[06:37] <zim_> is that to me
[06:37] <inma> quien eres
[06:37] <deFrysk> AstralJava, try preferences > conversations and check the TAB options
[06:38] <fuoco> anyone got an ibook ?
[06:38] <magda> hola hay algun espapl guapo
[06:38] <sda> just a quickie: anyone know how good ubuntu's support for 64bit is?
[06:38] <nalioth> !es
[06:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:38] <nalioth> fuoco: lots of us do
[06:38] <zim_> aftertaf have you looked at ifolders
[06:38] <inma> hay algien espaola fea llamada magdalena
[06:38] <boink> sda: depends on what you want to do
[06:38] <ladydoor> nalioth: could you do inma, too? i've told him about #ubuntu-es, using spanish, and have also told him about private messages for offtopic stuff (also in spanish)...
[06:38] <SoH|TonyL> if ubuntu needs 2 partitions, then ill change the 6.77gb partition to a 6gb and a 0.77gb. is that good?
[06:39] <deFrysk> spanish troll spanish trolll
[06:39] <aftertaf> ifolders? NOPE
[06:39] <sda> boink: I want to set up ubuntu on my stationary computer as desktop
[06:39] <Tokenbad> well could someone maybe help me figure out why inet would stop after reboot...or how should go about finding out why?
[06:39] <Intangir> sweet, thanks that works
[06:39] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: sounds very good
[06:39] <ladydoor> Seveas: thank you.
[06:39] <aftertaf> oops
[06:39] <nalioth> ladydoor: ?
[06:39] <Intangir> Sasuk3: thx
[06:39] <SoH|TonyL> ok thanks =)
[06:39] <Seveas> deFrysk, frisian troll frisian troll frisian troll
[06:39] <deFrysk> lol Seveas
[06:39] <boink> sda: then there are a few things which still don't have 64 support
[06:39] <zim_> anyone who has 2 min look at this http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page
[06:39] <roadster3043> the ones speaking in spanish aren't talking about ubuntu so I think you can take them out
[06:39] <ladydoor> nalioth: just somebody who kept being offtopic, in spanish, and just calling out and pestering random people. *shrug.*
[06:39] <sda> how does ubuntu cope with that? 32bit-emulation or such>
[06:39] <boink> sadly, the whole world hasn't yet gone to 64 bit :/
[06:39] <boink> 32 chroots, yes
[06:39] <sda> that is a sad thing!
[06:40] <nalioth> ladydoor: read your channel notices
[06:40] <warpzone> if you're using 64, dont expect much in the way of media codecs
[06:40] <boink> like flash doesn't have 64 bit support
[06:40] <warpzone> and by much I mean anything
[06:40] <n3storm> hi everyone
[06:40] <zim_> then tell me why ubuntu i am the only one who seem to think they are the mutts nutts
[06:40] <ladydoor> nalioth: ok.
[06:40] <Intangir> when i used 64bit linux i had to isntall 32bit version of mplayer, with 32bit codecs
[06:40] <SoH|TonyL> ok so ill do the partitioning as soon as ubuntu is downloaded
[06:40] <zim_> sorry mixed up boxes
[06:40] <Intangir> it plays fine
[06:41] <Ropechoborra> Hi.. i got a problem... when i do /dns <a specific host> it gives me a IP number.. but its not the right ip number... (it happends just for me...) any ideas?
[06:41] <sda> boink: will installing e.g. firefox in 32 bit solve that? and is that even possible?
[06:41] <ladydoor> nalioth: oh. lol. i'm sorry!
[06:41] <xst> How do I make k3b accept wma files for burning?
[06:41] <boink> good to hear that, Intangir
[06:41] <boink> sda: sure, if you're up to that
[06:41] <warpzone> SoH|TonyL: it'll do the partitioning itself, the defautlts are fine unless you want a lot of Swap or something
[06:41] <boink> the 64-bit for the server is very good
[06:41] <zim_> as i was saying anyone in here with 2 min to spair have a look at http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page
[06:41] <fuoco> nalioth: i have this problem sometimes, that after some time, or maybe after suspending a few times - the sound becomes skippy
[06:41] <SoH|TonyL> if i knew what swaps were ^^
[06:41] <oskude> zim_: and then ?
[06:42] <zim_> why is there no .deb
[06:42] <nalioth> fuoco: suspend doesn't work well with lots of portables
[06:42] <sda> as long as it doesn't cause me enormeus headaches to setup simple things such as video-codecs, I'm happy with it!
[06:42] <zim_> it been opensource for about 6 months now
[06:42] <oskude> zim_: how should i know ? ask the ifolder people why they dont have any deb...
[06:42] <roadster3043> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25735/plain/
[06:42] <sda> but if it's really buggy and complicated I won't go with 64bit - just settle with 32bit then
[06:42] <mluser-work> Could someone recomend a howto on setting up a vpn into my home ubuntu server?
[06:42] <ladydoor> !vpn
[06:42] <Seveas> zim_, bcause no one cared enough
[06:42] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[06:42] <nalioth> sda: stick with the x86 version
[06:42] <warpzone> Soh|TonyL: think of it as virtual RAM. but anyways, don't worry about partitioning the first time around, the defualts are great. I havent had a reason to change em
[06:43] <aftertaf> zim_: whats with ifolders?
[06:43] <mluser-work> !ipsec
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipsec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <boink> !pptp
[06:43] <SoH|TonyL> ok thanks =)
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <sda> nalioth: it just seems such a waste when I DO have a 64bit cpu, doesn't it :)?
[06:43] <zim_> rsync on steroids
[06:43] <Tokenbad> could someone maybe help me figure out why inet would stop after reboot...or how should go about finding out why?
[06:43] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: windows has a "swap" file too... linux just has an own partition for that...
[06:43] <SoH|TonyL> ok
[06:43] <fuoco> nalioth: it works well, just the sound is skippy
[06:44] <lupine_85> linux can use swap files as well, but it's a bit pointless
[06:44] <warpzone> sda: I wouldnt touch a 64bit anything unless it was a mac, PCs just are good with it yet
[06:44] <lupine_85> the only thing I never bothered getting working in 64 bit was flash
[06:44] <zim_> you can have any folder on any platform sync up
[06:44] <Sasuk3> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lamp3
[06:44] <lupine_85> obscure binary-only stuff is the only thing not properly working yet
[06:45] <oskude> Tokenbad: start could be to look what "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" says
[06:45] <sda> you have any idea of a timescope for these minor elements of irritation being fixed?
[06:45] <oskude> Sasuk3: whats that ?
[06:46] <Tokenbad> oskude, did that
[06:46] <Sasuk3> Is my project
[06:46] <macluvjay> I'm looking at the novell site, but maybe you can give me more info
[06:46] <zim_> lets say my home folder at work with my home folder at home and my windows laptop mydoc folder all sync automaticaly
[06:46] <Sasuk3> oskude is Mp3 Player for linux... based on Winamp skinneable..
[06:46] <ijii> anybody know why i'm having problems installing ubuntu? i get errors such as ---> hdc: timeout waiting for DMA and hdc: drive not ready for command
[06:46] <Sasuk3> oskude i make cuz i dont like the gtk+1 used on xmms..
[06:46] <SoH|TonyL> and maybe a totally out-of-topic question: what textfont is used in a windows bluescreen?
[06:46] <oskude> Sasuk3: re-invent the wheel ?
[06:46] <oskude> Sasuk3: theres xmms2 coming up...
[06:46] <ijii> am I having hardware issues with the motherboard? maybe the hard drive?
[06:47] <macluvjay> it's a backup solution?
[06:47] <macluvjay> a backup solution?
[06:47] <Sasuk3> oskude yes.. but i dont know i want to make a Media Player for X11 with nice gfx
[06:47] <ke> Anyone running Edgy Eft? How is it?
[06:47] <Sasuk3> :_P
[06:47] <oskude> SoH|TonyL: lol, thats a good question :)
[06:47] <zim_> another kewl use i have a house in london and in the country my music can be synced in both all automaticaly
[06:48] <zim_> it will also handle Versioning
[06:48] <roadster3043> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25735/plain/
[06:48] <Seveas> zim_, could you please cut down on the offtopicness, this is not an ifolder channel but an ubuntu support channel
[06:49] <Gilnim> is there something like a speedmanager for ubuntu
[06:49] <Seveas> Gilnim, depends on what you mean with speedmanager
[06:50] <davvs> :O
[06:50] <zim_> ok Seveas i will just trash my ubuntu server and install fedora so i can have ifolders ty
[06:50] <MikeyMike> iter,
[06:50] <deFrysk> zim_, good for you
[06:50] <Gilnim> with speedmanger i mean something that shows me the in- and outgoing traffic
[06:50] <zim_> i think not
[06:50] <diminthedam> how do i run kernel diagnostics?
[06:50] <Seveas> Gilnim, bwm does that
[06:50] <Seveas> diminthedam, 'kernel diagnostics'?
[06:50] <Gilnim> thanks
[06:50] <deFrysk> zim_, use alien to convert rpms to .debs
[06:50] <oskude> roadster3043: and wheres the problem ?
[06:51] <zim_> have tried
[06:51] <diminthedam> Seveas: trying to pinpoint a problem i am having.
[06:51] <egm> hola como te llamas
[06:51] <zim_> got closer to making it work from source
[06:51] <Seveas> !es
[06:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:51] <dave__> need some help ..when i boot up gdm works fine, but for some reason when i log out, the screen just goes blank
[06:51] <deFrysk> zim_, or compile from source and use checkinstall
[06:51] <aftertaf> nalioth: for info.... file called /.hidden
[06:52] <Seveas> diminthedam, what's the problem? (best kernel diagnostic is just askin in here ;))
[06:52] <zim_> but not an uber geek
[06:52] <ijii> anybody know why i'm having problems installing ubuntu? i get errors such as ---> hdc: timeout waiting for DMA and hdc: drive not ready for command
[06:52] <aftertaf> makes them all hidden
[06:52] <ijii> am I having hardware issues with the motherboard? maybe the hard drive?
[06:52] <dave__> i can hear it, and i can still log in, but the screen is just blank
[06:52] <dave__> anyone have any idea?
[06:52] <zim_> got closer to making it work from source
[06:52] <deFrysk> zim_, then do that
[06:52] <diminthedam> Seveas: i tried and tried! ok.. my cdrom does not read CDs anymore. it reads DVDs ok..happened a couple of days ago. cant explain
[06:52] <nalioth> egm: inglez aqui, por favor
[06:52] <zim_> as i said did not quite get there
[06:52] <zim_> will keep trying
[06:52] <pooh_beawr> I'm a pretty much a newb, how do I execute a .pl file?
[06:52] <deFrysk> zim_, istall auto-apt and checkinstall
[06:53] <Seveas> diminthedam, the dmesg command and the files in /var/log might help you there
[06:53] <Seveas> pooh_beawr, perl foo.pl
[06:53] <deFrysk> zim and look in the wiki for a howto
[06:53] <diminthedam> Seveas: yeah, the say cd rom failed to load
[06:53] <ardchoille> Where can I go to subscribe to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter?
[06:53] <pooh_beawr> Seveas, simple... thanks :)
[06:53] <zim_> did that for some reson (probably me doing somthing stupid) it failed
[06:53] <diminthedam> Seveas: and they load ok when its a DVD
[06:53] <ardchoille> !uwn
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uwn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <roadster3043> oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25735/  seems to be I think a gpg key at line 42, and packages got kept back at lines 48 and 49
[06:54] <ardchoille> Found it :)
[06:54] <zim_> will be trying some more was just saying that it would be great if at some point i could "apt-get install ifolder-server"
[06:54] <deFrysk> zim_, install the .dev files of http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Download#Required_Packages make sure to do that
[06:55] <deFrysk> zim_, and use synaptic for those
[06:55] <zim_> ty
[06:55] <AstralJava> deFrysk: Thanks for the suggestion, but it's already checked.
[06:55] <zim_> will
[06:55] <zim_> have you installed them
[06:55] <deFrysk> AstralJava, my bad
[06:55] <oskude> roadster3043: well, that repo needing gpg is not ubuntu.com repo... and the things kept back, are propably left back with a reason...
[06:55] <deFrysk> zim nope
[06:56] <Drac|Laptop> I tried to upload some music onto my USB stick and corrupted the data. Upon trying to remove the directory of corrupted data and its contents, I somehow managed to make my USB stick read-only. Is there a way to fix it?
[06:56] <zim_> what do you think of them
[06:56] <oskude> roadster3043: you could try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" but i wouldt do that, with those repos...
[06:56] <deFrysk> Zibby,  the package is not supported by ubuntu and I am just trying to get you thru the basics
[06:56] <deFrysk> zim_, I mean
[06:56] <ladydoor> ok, so when applying a patch to some sourcecode, a) do i need to bunzip2 the patch first, and b) do i apply it within the gunzipped dir, or to the gzipped source?
[06:57] <zim_> kewl
[06:57] <roadster3043> oskude: I see.  and could that be the cause of this error too http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25737/
[06:57] <dabugas> hi
[06:57] <deFrysk> zim_, just try it and suggest the package to the developers of ubuntu
[06:57] <dabugas> is there a way to convert avis to mpegs?
[06:57] <deFrysk> zim maybe it wil be featured soon
[06:57] <deFrysk> dabugas, yes
[06:57] <zim_> have done about 4 months ago
[06:58] <deFrysk> dabugas, dvd_mpegs ?
[06:58] <diminthedam> Seveas: u see. no one wants to deal with it! strange one though
[06:58] <andreo> anybody expert of alsa drivers?
[06:58] <dabugas> deFrysk, this doesn't seem to be a package...
[06:59] <oskude> roadster3043: yup, could be that packages is tried to install from non ubuntu.com source... do "sudo apt-get clean" and then the last command again, then you should see from where it gets downloaded, if its not for ...ubuntu.com, its not supported here...
[06:59] <deFrysk> dabugas, the best way to do it is this way : http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=117709
[06:59] <zim_> i am very supprised that i am the only one who is so exited by the idea of them
[06:59] <andreo> or anybody knows of a channel somewhere about alsa?
[06:59] <dabugas> deFrysk, thanks i'll look it up :)
[06:59] <deFrysk> dabugas,  its a gentoo doc but it works flawlessly
[07:00] <deFrysk> dabugas, also : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_DVD:Filesystem
[07:00] <deFrysk> dabugas, just apt-get the suggested packages
[07:00] <deFrysk> they are all in the repos
[07:00] <andreo> I need to speak with some alsa developer...
[07:01] <deFrysk> alsa developer ?
[07:01] <andreo> someone who knows alsa driver very well
[07:01] <savvas> this is a bit of a weird question, but can someone tell me if "~/o" used for anything in linux? I saw it somewhere but can't remember where :\
[07:01] <n3storm> is there a way to have gnome-splash fullscreen?
[07:01] <richardr> does anyone have problems with quanta using about 100% of the CPU while running?
[07:01] <oskude> andreo: you could try #alsa
[07:01] <kitche> savaas: it's for formating think it's for LaTex
[07:01] <deFrysk> andreo, http://www.alsa-project.org/ vheck here
[07:02] <Seveas> n3storm, sure -- create a fullscreen version of it
[07:02] <dabugas> deFrysk, thanks
[07:02] <n3storm> Seveas, but it has to have some parameter somewhere to resize
[07:02] <n3storm> cause it appears from coordinate 0,0 but not resized
[07:03] <n3storm> maybe gconf?
[07:03] <roberts> Is there an effort to try and support more hardware components on MacBook (Pros) on Edgy Eft out of the box, such as speakers, iSight camera, keyboard backlight, and certain models of the Atheros Wifi cards?
[07:03] <savvas> ok kitche, but i think it was somewhere in perl, there's a big chance i'm wrong though
[07:03] <boink> !upstart
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <boink> isn't upstart the new way that ubuntu will boot up?
[07:04] <boink> from edgy on?
[07:05] <n3storm> gconf has nothing
[07:05] <roadster3043> oskude: I commented out the lines that where causing the gpg error and so far so good.  thanks for your help
[07:05] <ijii> anybody know why i'm having problems installing ubuntu? i get errors such as ---> hdc: timeout waiting for DMA and hdc: drive not ready for command
[07:05] <ijii> am I having hardware issues with the motherboard? maybe the hard drive?
[07:05] <likewhoa54> ijii: might be the hd
[07:06] <AstralJava> deFrysk: Apparently you can drag 'n' drop tabs between windows, but I found it impossible to re-attach that last tab from a window so that the base window would be destroyed (in lack of better terms). Not sure if it's possible, not sure if this is intended behaviour at all but somehow two tabs got detached without me knowingly doing it.
[07:06] <AstralJava> deFrysk: Think I should file a bug?
[07:06] <oskude> ijii: cdrom/hd maybe not supporting dma (had that on an old pc too) theres a way around that, i just forgot atm...
[07:07] <oskude> ijii: does that come when you boot the dapper desktop cd ?
[07:07] <ijii> yes
[07:07] <zv_odd_> how do i go about editing my config files in buntu?
[07:07] <oskude> ijii: sec, ill google the boot flag to (hopefully) solve that
[07:08] <ijii> i also get buffer I/O error on device hdc as well
[07:08] <zv_odd_> or do i not know how to use chown?
[07:08] <z3r0x> checking for GNOME... configure: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries <-- which package has those libraries?
[07:08] <AstralJava> zv_odd_: You need to sudo them. Like, 'sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf'.
[07:08] <AstralJava> zv_odd_: Of course replace vim with the editor-of-choice.
[07:08] <oskude> ijii: try with boot option "ide=nodma" (without the "")
[07:09] <AstralJava> zv_odd_: Thus no need for chowning anything.
[07:09] <ijii> boot option? where
[07:09] <zv_odd_> but i cant use vim!
[07:09] <zv_odd_> i stop using linux for 3 months and i cant rember how to do nething!
[07:09] <CromagDK> then nano
[07:09] <kitche> zv_odd_: you can use nano pico any of those other ones
[07:09] <AstralJava> zv_odd_: I thought of that, and said you can replace it with any editor you like to use, like 'gedit' or 'nano'.
[07:09] <ijii> is that an option to be set in the BIOS?
[07:09] <MikeyMike> are there any cli torrent clients?
[07:09] <ijii> i mean CMOS
[07:10] <oskude> ijii: you should have a option "boot options" (or something like that) on the bottom of the screen (some F-key) and add that "ide=nodma" to the end of that line what see then
[07:10] <zv_odd_> why cant i edit thing with the nice gui :/
[07:10] <oskude> ijii: no, on the install cd boot menu
[07:10] <CromagDK> gedit
[07:10] <CromagDK> has gui
[07:10] <AstralJava> zv_odd_: gedit is a GUI editor.
[07:10] <Luke> MikeyMike: i think there is btorrent or something like that already installed
[07:10] <ijii> ok thanks, i forgot about that, i'll check it out
[07:10] <kitche> zv_odd_: you can you just have to gksudo
[07:10] <EddyDean> Hello everyone, I have installed the NVIDIA drivers for my graphic card today, and everything seemed to work well, but now I rebooted and it says I'm unable to load the graphic environment (X server). I am only able to use the CLI now. Trying to run GDM (GNOME) fails. Is there anything I can do except for reinstalling Ubuntu (Again...)
[07:10] <AstralJava> CromagDK: Are we accidentally syncronized? ;9
[07:10] <zv_odd_> i want to do this form my Desktop not through the console
[07:10] <AstralJava> ;)
[07:10] <MikeyMike> Luke,  that works from the command line? could i effectively start a torrent from ssh using that?
[07:10] <CromagDK> AstralJava: sorry :(
[07:10] <CromagDK> my bad ;)
[07:11] <AstralJava> CromagDK: Not a problem, just thought it was too funny. :)
[07:11] <CromagDK> hehe
[07:11] <CromagDK> ye
[07:11] <EddyDean> Anyone?
[07:11] <CromagDK> zv_odd_: try write gksudo gedit file
[07:11] <CromagDK> it will open a gedit window for you
[07:11] <kitche> EddyDean: it's probably not loading the nvidia module try modprobe nvidia then startx
[07:11] <EddyDean> Meh... I'll just reinstall... Not much data on there anyway...
[07:11] <zv_odd_> wat i dont understande is that when i got 'sudo chown o+rw sources.list' it says o is an inviliad user
[07:11] <MikeyMike> can anyone tell me about torenting
[07:12] <oskude> MikeyMike: yes, google ;)
[07:12] <kitche> zv_odd_: chown changes user chmod is probably what you wanted
[07:12] <MikeyMike> ahaha
[07:12] <MikeyMike> rtorrent
[07:12] <lamego> because you are trying to set the owner to "o+rw"
[07:12] <Luke> MikeyMike: yea its origionally a command line ap
[07:12] <Dr_willis> zv_odd_,  ya sure you dont want chmod. :P
[07:12] <kitche> zv_odd_: chown means change owner
[07:12] <MikeyMike> Luke,  awesome.
[07:12] <zv_odd_> SHHH i am NOT STONED!
[07:12] <Luke> MikeyMike: a lot of bit torrent clients have non-x backends
[07:12] <AstralJava> EddyDean: In console, you can go thru X configuration by issuing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', then look for incorrect setups, fix them and after you're finished try again.
[07:12] <MikeyMike> Luke,  i want to install one on a remote box via ssh
[07:12] <MikeyMike> and start a download for my friend
[07:14] <Luke> MikeyMike: ok
[07:14] <ToHellWithGA> could somebody please help me setup a terminal-based solution that will allow me to stream music files on my computer to a client on another computer after converting to a low bitrate mp3 or ogg?
[07:14] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: i think there are plenty howtos for that on the net...
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> oskude: i've not yet found an easy one
[07:16] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: define easy ?
[07:16] <deFrysk> not hard
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> easy as in an example configuration file and an example terminal command to get it going
[07:17] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: and that has nothing to do with ubuntu support... why not ask in shoutcast chat or such ?
[07:17] <ToHellWithGA> starting from man pages is way too tricky.  i'd rather edit something that's already written than write my own configuration file
[07:17] <ToHellWithGA> oskude: because i'm doing it on ubuntu.  if i were running windows i'd know how to use shoutcast for that
[07:17] <Gasten> Hello. When using one of the update-mangers (apt-get update/upgrade, aptutude update/upgrade, update-notifier, etc), does it save both the old package--and the new version? or can I sleep calm, knowing that my PC isn't drowning in unused packages?
[07:17] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: ok, so everyone who does whatever under ubuntu, should be supported here ? :/
[07:18] <kitche> Gasten: it uninstalls the old package if you install a newer version
[07:18] <Gasten> kitche: Thanks.
[07:18] <roberts> Is there an effort to try and support more hardware components on MacBook (Pros) on Edgy Eft out of the box, such as speakers, iSight camera, keyboard backlight, and certain models of the Atheros Wifi cards?
[07:19] <kishore> help neede
[07:19] <kitche> !ask
[07:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:19] <ToHellWithGA> oskude: i think that's the idea.
[07:19] <kishore> i had recently formatted my windows drives and again installed.now i am unable to mount the drives back in linux
[07:20] <cherubiel> kishore: errors?
[07:20] <kitche> kishore: did you format the partitions?
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> this is a general assistance channel last time i checked.  if you, oskude, don't want to assist me you don't have to assist me.  if anybody would help me setup icecast and mplayer properly i'd appreciate it.
[07:20] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: yeah, right...
[07:20] <kishore> error : the folder contents could not be displayed
[07:20] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: good luck!
[07:20] <kishore> when treid to open
[07:21] <kishore> i had formatted windows partitions
[07:21] <kishore> tat too only.. windows drive
[07:21] <DarkWizzard> guys
[07:21] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[07:21] <DarkWizzard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25742/
[07:21] <kishore> cherubiel, You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda6".
[07:21] <rodneyk> When I load Ubuntu Dapper its telling me my copy isnt genuine then displays a picture of a fat black man eating fried chicken.
[07:22] <kishore> tat was the error when tried to open
[07:22] <oskude> DarkWizzard: whats that ?
[07:22] <DarkWizzard> my problem
[07:22] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: have you read these ? http://icecast.org/docs.php
[07:22] <ToHellWithGA> yes, oskude.  i have no idea what most parameters mean
[07:23] <kishore> did any one get my problem.. :((
[07:23] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: thats why there are manuals...
[07:23] <ToHellWithGA> because i don't know what to do with the parameters to be set in the configuration file and i don't see an example configuration file, i'm stuck
[07:23] <ToHellWithGA> the man page for icecast says "check out the docs"
[07:24] <kishore> ubotu, mount
[07:24] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: is that not a config file here ? http://www.6809.org.uk/media/ices2-howto.shtml
[07:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:24] <sheepy1988> i need help with hardware, anyone ok to help me?
[07:24] <oskude> DarkWizzard: you star apache2 with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[07:24] <ardchoille> sheepy1988: What kind of hardware? HD's? Video?
[07:24] <kaur> using dapper and my laptops fan keeps running all the time. Proccessor(s) are not loaded. What could be the problem?
[07:24] <sheepy1988> HDDs
[07:24] <ardchoille> sheepy1988: Aks your question
[07:24] <DarkWizzard> its the same with all daemons
[07:25] <DarkWizzard> tor doesn't work eighter
[07:25] <sheepy1988> i bought a new hard drive for my computer today, installed it as a slave with jumper pins in the correct position and for some reason windows and ubuntu arent picking it up, but the BIOS is
[07:25] <Kuto2> i know its stupid but from xubuntu how do i get a complete ubuntu installation?
[07:25] <oskude> DarkWizzard: normally you start "daemons" from there... dunno whats tor
[07:25] <kaur> using dapper and my laptops fan keeps running all the time. Proccessor(s) are not loaded. What could be the problem?
[07:25] <kitche> oskude: you can also use apachectl to start apache just so you know
[07:25] <hondje> Kuto2: If you mean to install the gnome stuff, in a terminal run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[07:25] <DarkWizzard> oskude not always
[07:25] <ardchoille> sheepy1988: You have to edit /etc/fstab so that Ubuntu can mount it on startup
[07:25] <kishore> ubotu, oracle
[07:25] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[07:26] <DarkWizzard> but same thing If I start it from there too
[07:26] <sheepy1988> any ideas about windows?
[07:26] <ToHellWithGA> oskude: it's a manual on what each parameter in the config file does.  it is not a config file, but rather a mess of independent lines
[07:26] <Kuto2> thanks
[07:26] <sheepy1988> i want windows to recognise it more so than ubuntu
[07:26] <oskude> DarkWizzard: do the command i said, and pastebin me a problem
[07:26] <ijii> i tried the ide=nodma line, but i still have the [17179704.65600]  Buffer I/O error on device hdc, ligical block 178792 errors :(
[07:26] <DarkWizzard> man
[07:26] <DarkWizzard> its the same
[07:26] <DarkWizzard> !
[07:26] <ToHellWithGA> i have to get to class soon, but i'll be back later scratching my head and trying to figure this problem out
[07:26] <ToHellWithGA> thanks for the links, oskude
[07:26] <swashbucklinstev> I'm on 6.06LTS Dapper AMD64 and /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh complains that no acceptable C compiler can be found. How can I fix this?
[07:27] <kitche> ijii: is that for all the discs you use?
[07:27] <DarkWizzard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25743/
[07:27] <oskude> ToHellWithGA: i think you just havent searched enough... there are so many icecast servers...
[07:27] <ardchoille> sheepy1988: No clue, I haven't used Windows in years
[07:27] <kitche> !compile > swashbucklinstev
[07:27] <ijii> i've tried using only on installation disc on one harddrive
[07:27] <sheepy1988> dammit
[07:27] <oskude> DarkWizzard: 1st, i dont see ANY errors there, so wheres the problem ?
[07:27] <kitche> swashbucklinstev: that's what you need what ubotu sent you
[07:27] <DarkWizzard> I'm asking you
[07:27] <sheepy1988> cheers anyway ardchoille
[07:28] <DarkWizzard> If I knew what the problem was I wouldn't be here
[07:28] <XhyldazhK> hi all... how can I open remote files with nautilus/gedit without gedit setting them as read only?
[07:28] <zv_odd_> ok i tried typing "echo gksudo gedit >> lol.sh" then "chmod o+x lol.sh" then "./lol.sh" and it says permission denied. Why what did i do worng?
[07:28] <SoH|Tony> hello again
[07:28] <oskude> DarkWizzard: eeh what ? i dont even know whats the problem...
[07:28] <XhyldazhK> zv_odd_: its chmod u+x
[07:28] <SoH|Tony> anyone here that remember me from 1h ago? =P
[07:28] <DarkWizzard> lol man
[07:28] <DarkWizzard> firewall
[07:28] <DarkWizzard> daemons start
[07:28] <DarkWizzard> but Cant connect
[07:28] <XhyldazhK> o+x means other users can execute
[07:28] <zv_odd_> lol
[07:28] <DarkWizzard> and the policy is right
[07:29] <XhyldazhK> how can i remote edit with gedit?
[07:29] <ApesMa> Is there a different channel for Edgy Eft discussion?
[07:29] <oskude> DarkWizzard: please do "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" and show me its errors
[07:29] <zv_odd_> that stupid mistake aside, is there a better way todo wat i am trying todo
[07:29] <DarkWizzard> man
[07:29] <DarkWizzard> I alredy did
[07:29] <DarkWizzard> no errors
[07:29] <SoH|Tony> i have a big problem when installing ubuntu: it completely ignores the partition already made (15gb,90,6.77) on my laptop. how can i make sure he gets the 6.77gb one?
[07:29] <lamego> ApesMa, #ubuntu+1
[07:29] <DarkWizzard> it starts!
[07:29] <DarkWizzard> but Cant connect
[07:29] <chantra> hi there, is there any irish around?
[07:29] <ApesMa> lamego: tnx 1e6
[07:29] <DarkWizzard> ah screw it you guys are too busy to concentrate
[07:29] <kitche> zv_odd_: yes just do gksudo gedit in a console
[07:29] <DarkWizzard> thanks anyway
[07:29] <oskude> DarkWizzard: wait!
[07:30] <oskude> what an ***
[07:30] <SoH|Tony> =\
[07:30] <ijii> i thought I'm suppose to simply boot the desktop cd and install and during the installation i have options to partition my harddrive, am i suppose to partition my harddrive before installing?
[07:30] <kitche> oskude: his problem was that he didn't know how to make a config file when he doesn't read docs
[07:30] <SoH|Tony> anyone got any idea about my problem? =\
[07:31] <Dr_willis> SoH|Tony,  leave it unallocated.. let the installer find/format it.
[07:31] <oskude> kitche: no, he just posted this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25742/ and didnt say 1. what he wanted to do. 2. what the problem is...
[07:31] <SoH|Tony> i dont think i know what unallocated means but ill try
[07:31] <kitche> oskude: his problem was that he didn't know how to configure it from what I read
[07:31] <XhyldazhK> anyone knows how to open remote files in gedit whitout having them as read only? i've googled a lot and i don't found an answer
[07:32] <Dr_willis> NOT in any partition.. just select the 6gb and delte the partition.. then reboot and let the isntaller look for it and tell it to use the unallocated space.
[07:32] <oskude> kitche: what ever, inpatient people nerv me, i go eat
[07:32] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, how are you accessing them?
[07:32] <XhyldazhK> kmaynard: via nautilus
[07:32] <XhyldazhK> kmaynard: but i'm not in gnome
[07:32] <SoH|Tony> ok willis
[07:32] <SoH|Tony> thanks
[07:32] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, what protocol? samba?
[07:32] <XhyldazhK> kmaynard: ftp with password
[07:32] <rukuartic> Does anyone know how I can mount a fat32 partition so that everyone can read/write to it, not just root?
[07:33] <XhyldazhK> kmaynard: strange thing is that konqueror can edit them
[07:33] <boink> !schedule
[07:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:33] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, if its ftp, you'll need to create a local copy, then upload the changed file
[07:33] <XhyldazhK> with kate
[07:33] <ladydoor> rukuartic: try adding umask=111 in its entry in fstab (after backing up fstab)
[07:33] <XhyldazhK> kmaynard: but... why you can't edit it online?
[07:33] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, dunno
[07:33] <XhyldazhK> all modern editors support that
[07:33] <ladydoor> rukuartic: (in the options section--so it might look like defaults,umask=111)
[07:33] <rukuartic> ladydoor: Thanks, I think thats it!
[07:33] <kmaynard> try right clicking it and select gedit to open it
[07:33] <XhyldazhK> and worst of all... i was been able to remotely edit with gedit before
[07:34] <ladydoor> rukuartic: np
[07:34] <rukuartic> ladydoor: Can you explain what that does?
[07:35] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, what are you doing different now?
[07:35] <ladydoor> rukuartic: basically, i think it tells the computer that the only permissions people don't have is execute (1). it's the opposite of chmod's system, basically.
[07:35] <XhyldazhK> running window maker instead of gnome?
[07:35] <XhyldazhK> thats the only thing i'm doing different
[07:35] <rukuartic> ladydoor: Haha, thanks!
[07:35] <ladydoor> rukuartic: np
[07:35] <davvs> is there any command to find all soft links in a directory hierarchy?
[07:35] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, i had trouble with some things when i ran xfce4...there must be some gnome goodness not happening in window maker now
[07:36] <XhyldazhK> kmaynard: like which things?
[07:36] <yu_raider> hi
[07:36] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, like being able to use gedit over ftp?
[07:36] <rukuartic> davvs: you could "ls -lr ./" and grep for "s" in the first part of the permissions...
[07:36] <XhyldazhK> did u had trouble with that in other environments distinct to gnome?
[07:37] <MikeyMike> is there perhaps a way to send bits to a certain ip on bittorrent if you're still seeding?
[07:37] <MikeyMike> or perhaps direct the person to your ip
[07:37] <MikeyMike> to add your ip
[07:37] <davvs> rukuartic, how whould i do that ? what command that is
[07:37] <rukuartic> davvs: sorry, "l" not s
[07:37] <rukuartic> davvs: find the directory you want to search
[07:37] <rukuartic> davvs: type "ls -l ./ | grep sr"
[07:37] <davvs> ok.. thanks
[07:37] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, not really...i either use smb or nfs for remote mounts tho
[07:37] <rukuartic> davvs: Not the best way to do it
[07:38] <kmaynard> i had trouble with media codecs
[07:38] <davvs> rukuartic, ok, it works i guess :P
[07:38] <markeib_> how can i copy a dir with the console?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> markeib_, yes
[07:38] <Dr_willis> cp -R
[07:38] <markeib_> -R?
[07:39] <markeib_> thankx
[07:39] <markeib_> s
[07:39] <Dr_willis> man cp
[07:39] <joeri> what is this?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> and google for some bash tutorials
[07:39] <markeib_> i prefer doing those things by hand but he won't let me since i don't have the rights
[07:40] <XhyldazhK> kmaynard: http://bamboomoon.org/gnome/use_gedit_to_edit_files_across_ftp
[07:40] <markeib_> by mouse*
[07:40] <Dr_willis> markeib_,  thats what 'sudo' lets you do.
[07:40] <Dr_willis> it pays to learn the shell...
[07:40] <Dr_willis> or use 'mc'
[07:40] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, hang on, closed the browser :)
[07:41] <MZM> any oracle experts here?
[07:41] <markeib_> yes, Dr_willis but how can i use sudo with nautilus?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> markeib_,  best answer  you DONT.. it can do nasty things
[07:42] <Dr_willis> markeib_,  if you must use a  fancier file manager.. learn to use 'mc' and sudo it. :P
[07:42] <Fackamato> hm
[07:42] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[07:42] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[07:42] <markeib_> fancy?
[07:42] <Fackamato> anyone know a program to record the desktop to a video file with?
[07:42] <Fackamato> (including recording opengl)
[07:42] <Fackamato> istanbul works..
[07:42] <kmaynard> if you want to live on the edge, gksu nautilus
[07:42] <Fackamato> but it's like 2 fps :\
[07:42] <markeib_> !info konqueror
[07:42] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1911 kB, installed size 5168 kB
[07:42] <blazemonger> hello folks
[07:42] <Dr_willis> !info gentoo
[07:42] <ubotu> gentoo: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.46-1 (dapper), package size 728 kB, installed size 2336 kB
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !info filerunner
[07:43] <ubotu> filerunner: X-Based FTP program & file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.1-16 (dapper), package size 135 kB, installed size 656 kB
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !info worker
[07:43] <ubotu> worker: highly configurable two-paned file manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-3 (dapper), package size 675 kB, installed size 2648 kB
[07:43] <oskude> Fackamato: http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/ is very good, but you would have to compile it from cvs, as its not yet r
[07:43] <Dr_willis> I perfer 2 pane filemanagers.
[07:43] <oskude> Fackamato: *ready (sorry, im eating the same time)
[07:43] <kmaynard> XhyldazhK, nice tip
[07:43] <blazemonger> Ubuntu has been treatin me good so far
[07:43] <Fackamato> oskude, okay, thanks.. I'll check it out.
[07:43] <markeib_> ok just one question how do i remove one folder recursively in the console?
[07:43] <markeib_> rm -R?
[07:44] <fresch> o
[07:44] <blazemonger> even a person i know that says he hated linux likes ubuntu
[07:44] <Dr_willis> ' one folder recursively' - Hmmm...
[07:44] <ladydoor> markeib_: rm -r. if you don't want it to prompt you for each file, use -rf. but BE CAREFUL.
[07:44] <Dr_willis> rm -R removes the DIRECTORY and all stuff in it.
[07:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:44] <ladydoor> markeib_: rm doesn't send anything to the trashcan--it's *gon*
[07:44] <markeib_> 'one folder + subfolders recursively' :P
[07:44] <ladydoor> * or gone, even
[07:44] <markeib_> who needs trashcans?
[07:45] <ladydoor> markeib_: not i!
[07:45] <Enselic> Where can I read about how to mount SD-cards? I fail to google :(
[07:45] <markeib_> grr i spend all my time trying to make my desktop look better!
[07:45] <Zarephath_> Under Places --> Computer it lists my first hard drive hda1....Ubuntu is installed to hdb...when I double click the icon I get a message stating /dev/hda1 is not removable then a second error regarding not being able to execute pmount..anyone help me resolve this?
[07:45] <kmaynard> Enselic, what desktop you use?
[07:45] <exmethix> could anybody help me installing a gtk2 theme in edgy eft?
[07:46] <markeib_> i hate the fact that you have so many possibilities
[07:46] <exmethix> pls
[07:46] <Enselic> kmaynard: Gnome 2.14 on Ubuntu 6.06
[07:46] <kmaynard> Enselic, what kind of reader you have on your pc?
[07:46] <ladydoor> markeib_: your problems are solved! http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison
[07:47] <Enselic> kmaynard: I have a laptop, and the reader is part of the laptp hardware so to speak, it supports several formats
[07:47] <XhyldazhK> by the way... its time to switch to Edgy Eft.... or its still 'too edgy' ?
[07:47] <kmaynard> Enselic, do you have anything in Computer for your reader?
[07:47] <markeib_> oh but i love it, it's just the fact that it's so interesting and doesn't really get you any further :P
[07:47] <Dr_willis> I got a laptop and its card reader isent seen/configured right.. :( i think the next kernel fixes that however.
[07:47] <capiCrimm> ping
[07:48] <Dr_willis> pong
[07:48] <Zarephath_> tic tac toe
[07:48] <dabugas> hi
[07:48] <oskude> XhyldazhK: edgy is still beta
[07:48] <boink> it will be released on 26 October
[07:48] <Enselic> kmaynard: Nope
[07:49] <dabugas> i can only play video dvds as root. any ideas?
[07:49] <Zarephath_> Someone help me understand why I can't change the name of my USB drive that is automounting at boot? it names it "New Volume"
[07:50] <gustavo> helloo
[07:50] <swashbucklinstev> thanks kitche
[07:52] <Enselic> kmaynard: You gave up on me already? :)
[07:52] <njal> Um how do I check if I am using opensource nvidia drivers or the oss ones?
[07:52] <njal> argh
[07:52] <njal> the normal nvidia drivers or the oss ones
[07:52] <SoH|Tony> hello its me again
[07:52] <kmaynard> Enselic, what kind of laptop
[07:53] <SoH|Tony> whats the best filesystem for a linux root partition and for a swap partition?
[07:53] <ladydoor> SoH|Tony: the best for swap is swap :-)
[07:53] <oskude> njal: one way is "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look if there "nv" or "nvidia"
[07:53] <SoH|Tony> i dont have only fat32 and ntfs... i got a whole load of filesystems =(
[07:53] <kmaynard> njal, look in /etc/X!!/xorg.conf  if the driver is nvidia, its proprietary. if it's nv, its oss
[07:53] <Enselic> kmaynard: It's a pretty local custom one, a Zepto (<- company name)  Znote 4015
[07:53] <ladydoor> SoH|Tony: and there're a lot of good filesystems for / ...fat32 isn't recommended, and ntfs would be deadly. i'd go for ext3.
[07:53] <oskude> SoH|Tony: for / i would use ext3 and swap has "swap"
[07:53] <vit_> hy all
[07:54] <blazemonger> configuring Ubuntu wasn't too difficul either
[07:54] <njal> and nv is the oss one right?
[07:54] <vit_> vorbeste cineva in romina ???
[07:54] <SoH|Tony> "and ntfs would be deadly" whoooo i was going to chose that
[07:54] <SoH|Tony> thanks lady and oskude
[07:54] <ladydoor> SoH|Tony: no problem :-)
[07:54] <njal> and setting it to nvidia then simply rebooting will be fine, coz i have nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx installed
[07:55] <Enselic> kmaynard: Is SD support supposed to be automagicall?
[07:55] <SoH|Tony> swap filesystem is linux-swap right? gon chose that for my 800mb swap partition
[07:55] <oskude> njal: yes, nv is the oss, nvidia is the closed source
[07:55] <kmaynard> Enselic, i dunno then. check /etc/fstab to see if there's an entry in there. if not, you're gonna have to do some digging to figure out how ubuntu is detecting that drive, and add an fstab option for it
[07:55] <oskude> SoH|Tony: yup
[07:55] <SoH|Tony> kk great
[07:55] <njal> oskude: So with the correct kernel modules installed it's simply a matter of rebooting?
[07:55] <kmaynard> njal, you'll soon find out
[07:56] <oskude> njal: yup, but dunno if you really need reboot of whole system, restart of gdm could be enought
[07:56] <njal> I hear running glxgears will show me how well the card is performing, assuming my desktop comes back up with no problem
[07:57] <SoH|Tony> what does "mount" mean?
[07:57] <oskude> njal: yup, and glxinfo too
[07:57] <kmaynard> njal, bite the bullet dude
[07:57] <njal> oskude: Ok cool thanks
[07:57] <Enselic> kmaynard: No SD stuff in fstab, I'll make further investigations, thank you for your time anyway
[07:57] <Enselic> SoH|Tony: "attach to"
[07:57] <Enselic> SoH|Tony: kind of
[07:57] <kmaynard> Enselic, any idea what brand the drive is?
[07:57] <oskude> SoH|Tony: you mount a partition to a place in the system so you can use it.. (in windows that mount point would be like "C:")
[07:58] <SoH|Tony> ubuntu is asking me if i want to mount my already-in-use 90gb partition to /media/sda5 and my windows partition to /media/sda1
[07:58] <SoH|Tony> ok ill let him mount them then
[07:58] <ladydoor> SoH|Tony: well, in linux, there's only a single filesystem, with a root at / (pronounced ``slash'' or ``root'')...when you put a partition into a dir in that filesystem so you can access it, you've mounted it.
[07:58] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[07:58] <SoH|Tony> im overwhelmed... so much help for a small user =)
[07:58] <oskude> SoH|Tony: that means you can acces those partitions from those directories (and they will be mounted automaticly on boot)
[07:59] <SoH|Tony> ok so this doesnt mean loss of data for those partitions? hope not =)
[07:59] <oskude> SoH|Tony: ntfs filesystems are normally mounted as read only, so you cant write to there from linux
[07:59] <Gasten> What do you think, Dots at the end of a comment or not?
[08:00] <SoH|Tony> that is really bad!
[08:00] <Gasten> oh, sorry! wrong channel!
[08:00] <oskude> SoH|Tony: well, go blame ms for that!
[08:00] <Hattori> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192115
[08:00] <SoH|Tony> because my 90gb partition is NTFS and i really need that data =\
[08:00] <ladydoor> SoH|Tony: tell windows to release their source! then linux could read/write them easily.
[08:00] <SoH|Tony> well
[08:00] <SoH|Tony> if i reformat it to fat32, would it work then?
[08:00] <oskude> SoH|Tony: they dont show open source developers howto use that filesystem, so they have very hardtime to support that filesystem.
[08:00] <MikeyMike> what does snubbed mean in torrent terms?
[08:00] <Zaggynl> fat32 is supported well
[08:00] <SoH|Tony> ok
[08:01] <Hattori> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192115
 SoH|Tony: well, go blame ms for that!why it enters 2.6.15-26 kernel dir? i have 2.6.15.27 currently installed
[08:01] <Gasten> SoH|Tony: There is some files you could download to write to a ntfs!
[08:01] <oskude> SoH|Tony: fat32 has very good support under linux
[08:01] <SoH|Tony> damn where will i put 80gb of stuff temporarily? =P
[08:01] <Zaggynl> SoH|Tony, You could try to use vmware to run winxp and share the partition for safe write support
[08:01] <Gasten> SoH|Tony: Thou, it isn't 100% safe to do that.
[08:01] <Zaggynl> I do that now :)
[08:01] <feross> SoH|Tony:  go to  http://fdalmoro.blogspot.com  wrote how to share partitions with windows.
[08:01] <SoH|Tony> vmware is like a windowsxp emulator?
[08:01] <oskude> Hattori: sory, i got no experience with ndiswrapper, never used it...
[08:01] <Hattori> hmm sorry..
[08:01] <Enselic> kmaynard: No idea what the name is, I tried to find /dev -name "*sd*" without success
[08:01] <Zaggynl> !vmware
[08:01] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[08:02] <SoH|Tony> aha its a mediaplayer
[08:02] <Zaggynl> hm, well it emulates a whole new computer
[08:02] <SoH|Tony> ok
[08:02] <oskude> Hattori: but this seems to be what you should investigate "/bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory"
[08:02] <njal> ok thanks guy I now have my nvidia card working properly
[08:02] <heanol_> can you chose lilo in the alternate install?
[08:02] <Hattori> any module i'm missing?
[08:03] <oskude> SoH|Tony: you should ALLWAYS have external backups... yes, windows can broke things too... so, dont trust computers ;)
[08:03] <Attha1> hi room, how i can play mp3 files in ubuntu? where i can download codecs?
[08:03] <SoH|Tony> zaggynl so its like i can have ubuntu and XP running at the same time?
[08:03] <Gasten> SoH|Tony: I think you can get something here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?action=show&redirect=NTFSReadWrite
[08:03] <SoH|Tony> well i have this PC as main workstation and that laptop as mobile. i should backup my laptop to my pc ^^
[08:03] <Gasten> SoH|Tony: Otherwise, try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ntfs&titlesearch=Titles
[08:03] <oskude> Hattori: and nevers seen something like this "sudo make make -C driver" sure that is correct ?
[08:03] <SoH|Tony> ok
[08:03] <Zaggynl> SoH|Tony, well, you run vmware in linux, and in vmware you can run another OS
[08:04] <Gasten> SoH|Tony: but as I said, it isn't 100% secure.
[08:04] <SoH|Tony> ok
[08:04] <dabugas> i can only play video dvds as root. any ideas?
[08:04] <SoH|Tony> life isnt 100% secure. just have to know how to use it =)
[08:04] <ardchoille> SoH|Tony: :)
[08:04] <devnull> my gnome-panels keep failing and locking up ... i can't figure out which applet is crashing them but i have almost no usuability in gnome without the panels ... is there anything i can do ?
[08:05] <Hattori> oskude: is not me, is the make script that do that
[08:05] <feross> dabugas: hmm look in system>admin>users and groups .. make sure you have permissions for verythnig
[08:05] <Attha1> how i can play mp3 files in ubuntu? thank you
[08:05] <SoH|Tony> is there a method to change the filesystem of a partition without loss of data?
[08:06] <oskude> Hattori: ok...
[08:06] <Gasten> devnull: Well, I don't think that the applet's messing it up. But I have no idea what it is. Have you been messing with the source?
[08:06] <dabugas> feross, accroding to users-admin i do
[08:06] <devnull> gasten no i haven't
[08:06] <Gasten> Attha1: do a search on EasyUbuntu.
[08:06] <feross> !easyubuntu
[08:06] <ladydoor> !codecs> Attha1
[08:06] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:06] <devnull> the only thing that is different is i have deskbar-applet on the panel but it was running fine last time the panels were working
[08:06] <feross> Attha1: easyubuntu can install the codecs for you
[08:06] <devnull> i have 3 panels and i can't use any of them
[08:07] <oskude> SoH|Tony: i think it depends on from what to what... and then ask google
[08:07] <Attha1> thank you
[08:07] <Gasten> devnull: well, I can't really help you. sorry. I think you should do a post on one of the forums, and maybe even a bugreport on launchpad.
[08:07] <feross> devnull: did you ps aux and look for anything that could be runnig in the background that could cause that?
[08:07] <SoH|Tony> ok ubuntu is installing
[08:07] <SoH|Tony> thanks for all support =)
[08:08] <devnull> feross ... i am not sure what in the background would cause it though
[08:08] <oskude> SoH|Tony: np, thats why we are here :)
[08:08] <devnull> feross i did that last night for an hour
[08:08] <SoH|Tony> such easy thing to do as installing a new OS seems to be very hard on my hands ^^
[08:08] <devnull> plus i don't know how to remove things from the panel without having access to the panel so they all just keep getting reloaded
[08:08] <Attha1> when i turn on my computer the ubuntu will connect automatic to internet (dialup). how i can turn off automatic connection?
[08:08] <oskude> SoH|Tony: dualboot is allways hard, if you dont know about partitions and file systems (on what ever os)
[08:09] <SoH|Tony> well i got my bad experiences on that already =P
[08:09] <feross> devnull: if your gnome sessions are being saved then the next time you start gnome it will start all of those background critters again. you might have to blow away all of your gnome settings and start over.
[08:09] <SurfnKid> allright its question time
[08:09] <SurfnKid> how do i remove an error on network startup
[08:09] <SurfnKid> its a fiaif error
[08:09] <devnull> feross .... can i remove things from the gnome session by hand ?
[08:09] <SurfnKid> where can i check for network startup settings
[08:10] <devnull> i just dont know what would be fudging up the panels
[08:10] <SoH|Tony> and i only have laptop-vital stuff and some documentaries (well a lot of them, including one about linux which is the reason im here) so it shouldnt be a killer loss
[08:11] <devnull> can i just remove the session file ?
[08:11] <feross> devnull: ahh, i think if you don't mind setting up your gnome stuff again it better just to start from scratch. It will probably not take very long.
[08:11] <oskude> SurfnKid: i only know /etc/network/interfaces
[08:11] <Kuto2> where do i get ncurses-devel and gtk+ stuff for ubuntu?
[08:11] <oskude> devnull: make a backup first, and try
[08:11] <devnull> feross ... should i just kill the whole .gnome2 dir ?
[08:11] <devnull> oskude good idea
[08:11] <Kuto2> pls someone help me?
[08:12] <oskude> Kuto2: by installing ncurses devel package, and gtk+ stuff :/
[08:12] <feross> devnull: you can mv it just in case.. log out then alt+ctrl+f2 .. log in and mv it. then go bac to alt+f7 and log in.
[08:12] <ladydoor> Kuto2: libncurses5-dev is the packagename.
[08:13] <SurfnKid> oskude, apparently its an error on fiaif, fiaif is a network firewall simple to use but i didnt need it any longer and uninstalled it, but when ubuntu starts now something shows up and says startup failure. network is fine, but it does bother me to see that
[08:13] <devnull> feross ... i know how to move around linux fine ... just making sure .gnome2 is the only directory i need to move ?
[08:13] <Kuto2> ladydoor: thanks
[08:13] <feross> yup
[08:13] <devnull> thank you :)
[08:13] <ladydoor> Kuto2: np
[08:13] <devnull> i will brb
[08:14] <oskude> SurfnKid: oh, firewall, never used one, sorry...
[08:14] <Kuto2> ladydoor: what about gtk+ stuff
[08:14] <SurfnKid> oskude, its ok
[08:14] <oskude> Kuto2: please define gtk+ stuff
[08:14] <ladydoor> Kuto2: do you mean gtk dev libraries? if you search in synaptic or aptitude or adept or do apt-cache search you can find them and any other gtk stuff you could want.
[08:14] <Attha1> i installed easyubuntu, but still i can't play mp3 files! :(
[08:14] <Kuto2> ladydoor: do they change package names??
[08:15] <ladydoor> Kuto2: what?
[08:15] <Lunar_Lamp> can anyone tell me why this command is not deleting files on the backup device that have been deleted on the primary device please: http://pastebin.co.uk/3099
[08:15] <godzirra> how do I get something like gpm so I can cut and paste in the console mode?
[08:15] <feross> Attha1: double click the volume applet and make sure that alsa is selected and your sound card is there.
[08:15] <kitche> Kuto2: Ubuntu uses it's own package names if that's what you meant
[08:16] <feross> Attha1: also look for PCM and make sure it's not muted. Unmute Master and PCM and raise the volume on those.
[08:16] <Attha1> oh sorry, i forget to update easy ubuntu! im doing that now
[08:16] <feross> ok
[08:16] <godzirra> how do I get something like gpm so I can cut and paste in the console mode?
[08:17] <SoH|Tony> mhm
[08:17] <ladydoor> godzirra: use gnu screen--it's got cut/paste and terminal multiplexing :-)
[08:17] <feross> godzirra: ah ladydoor beat me to it .. screen is cool.
[08:17] <godzirra> ladydoor: the problem is I already have some text I need to save and i dont want to retype it all
[08:17] <godzirra> normally Id o use screen
[08:17] <godzirra> this is just a new install
[08:17] <godzirra> and i need to show someone else this output
[08:17] <SoH|Tony> when shutting down my ubuntu it gets a list of processes being stopped. but when stopping RAID monitoring, it says it fails doing that. is it THAAT bad?
[08:18] <ladydoor> godzirra: try putting it in a file, with >
[08:18] <godzirra> Its already on the screen
[08:18] <godzirra> and its multiple commands
[08:18] <godzirra> Really I just need gpm :)
[08:18] <dyn-afk> SoH|Tony do you have a RAID setup ?
[08:19] <SoH|Tony> i dont know
[08:19] <feross> godzirra: can you alt+f3 or something.. then install gdm and go back to wherever you were
[08:19] <SoH|Tony> i just installed ubuntu
[08:19] <oskude> SoH|Tony: ubuntu dapper or edgy ?
[08:19] <feross> s/gdm/gpm
[08:19] <godzirra> feross: gdm?  thats gnome display manager.
[08:19] <godzirra> ahh :)
[08:19] <SoH|Tony> i dont know =S
[08:19] <godzirra> I could, but gpm isnt a package according to ubuntu
[08:19] <dyn-afk> then you don't have a RAID setup SoH|Tony
[08:19] <Garnol> hi ive a question about ubuntu ..
[08:19] <SoH|Tony> ok
[08:19] <SoH|Tony> =)
[08:19] <godzirra> I just hae the gpm libs and mdetect which just detects mice.
[08:19] <Garnol> can i install ubuntu on a flash drive ..
[08:19] <dyn-afk> and because you don't have one, it fails shutting down RAID
[08:19] <Trae> could someone please help me restore grub?
[08:19] <Garnol> i mean an Usb stick or a SD Card
[08:19] <dyn-afk> simply logic :P
[08:19] <Trae> I've booted the live cd
[08:20] <kitche> Garnol: if you use the livecd you can and got enough space
[08:20] <dyn-afk> very normal that something fails to shutdown something that's not running
[08:20] <oskude> Trae: does this help ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:20] <feross> godzirra: well... I can keep going on about how you can wget it and install anyway but it seems you want something OTHER than gpm. jeje I'm not sure there is one.
[08:20] <Trae> oskude: k, sec
[08:21] <godzirra> feross: no, I want exactly gpm
[08:21] <godzirra> I just dont know where to get it :p
[08:21] <Garnol> hh .. but on the CD you cant wride on
[08:21] <ijii> damn, I still have the same error installing ubuntu with a different harddrive!
[08:21] <kitche> !gpm
[08:21] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
[08:21] <kitche> dogzirra: there you go :)
[08:21] <david83> Garnol try "damn small linux" its perfect for pen-drive installation
[08:21] <kitche> opps godzirra*
[08:21] <ijii> i still have the buffer I/O error on device hdc
[08:21] <SoH|Tony> ok great
[08:21] <SoH|Tony> no internet connection
[08:21] <kitche> ijii: it's the cd most likely a bad burn
[08:21] <SoH|Tony> ion ubuntu =\
[08:21] <godzirra> Ahh, I got it :)
[08:22] <oskude> ijii: did you try with "ide=nodma" ?
[08:22] <ijii> i did oskude
[08:22] <Lattyware> Hey all, Does anyone know how it is possible to upmix all of my audio to utilise my 5.1 system?
[08:22] <ijii> that took away the timout waiting for DMA and hdc: drive not ready for command errors
[08:22] <kitche> ijii: since hdc is usually a cdrom unless you have three hard drives
[08:22] <oskude> ijii: try the "check cd" boot option, and see if the cd is ok
[08:23] <Lattyware> I currently hit 'Four Channel Mode', but that doesn't utilise the Center or sub
[08:23] <SoH|Tony> what is the program called to configure internet connection in ubuntu? =\
[08:23] <C0RVUS> bonjour, je cherche un serveur fr
[08:23] <ijii> oh, maybe i can use my dvdrw drive instead of the dvd-rom
[08:23] <kitche> SoH|Tony: you connected directly to the modem?
[08:23] <ijii> i did that oskude, but it pretty much immediately did the normal install
[08:23] <Nelo> Hello, I am trying to use smb://ipaddresss/shared_point and it does not work. When I mount via smb fs it works. is there something else i need to do in order to use the smb://
[08:23] <SoH|Tony> its a lan cable connected to a switch which is connected to a rounter which is connected to a cable modem
[08:24] <SoH|Tony> router*
[08:24] <oskude> ijii: hmm, when i download iso file, i allways look the md5 sum of it before i burn it... just to be sure the download was ok...
[08:24] <david83> pppoeconf @ SoH|Tony
[08:24] <JoshuaW> Hello :P
[08:24] <SoH|Tony> thanks
[08:24] <kitche> SoH|Tony: ok so your not connected to the modem directly I m I correct?
[08:24] <ijii> how do i check the md5 sum?
[08:24] <kitche> since ppoeconf will only be used if you are directly connected
[08:24] <blackwire83> hey, has anyone got a pointer how to use more than 8 loop devices? (i have kernel param max_loop=255 already set)
[08:25] <JoshuaW> Can someone help me?
[08:25] <ijii> my normal dvd drive is like 7-8 years old
[08:25] <david83> man md5sum @ ijii
[08:25] <oskude> ijii: the ubuntu download page has information for that
[08:25] <ijii> ok sorry
[08:25] <Garnol> (ok im back) .. i dont want to use the live CD, because you cant write programms or delet programms on a CD .. so i want to use an USB Stick or SD Card .. is it possible to install ubuntu on things like that ?
[08:26] <haijun> hi everybody
[08:26] <harsha> Hello everyon!
[08:26] <oskude> ijii: but on the end it takes you here http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
[08:26] <david83> Garnol what about damn small linux ? you don't like it? it's just 60MB
[08:26] <phaedrus44> what is that command to see disks and how much disk space is used?
[08:26] <SoH|Tony> [20:24:42]  <kitche> SoH|Tony: ok so your not connected to the modem directly I m I correct?
[08:26] <SoH|Tony> yes to that
[08:26] <ladydoor> phaedrus44: df -h
[08:26] <phaedrus44> ladydoor  what does that stand for?
[08:26] <david83> df or du @ phaedrus44
[08:26] <SoH|Tony> kitche: yes
[08:26] <harsha> Is the default alt-tab behaviour different on Dapper? This new scheme is getting to my nerves.
[08:26] <ladydoor> phaedrus44: degrees of freedom --human-readable
[08:26] <Lattyware> Hey all, does anyone know how I can upmix my audio to 5.1 from stereo?
[08:27] <harsha> btw, I am on gnome.
[08:27] <kitche> SoH|Tony: well ifconfig can help out but there is a gui option to setup networking also
[08:27] <SoH|Tony> ok but
[08:27] <ladydoor> phaedrus44: (but the command is just df -h)
[08:27] <david83> with linux software @ Latty? no idea
[08:27] <C0RVUS> hello, I seek a waiter Fr, can you help me please ?
[08:27] <oskude> harsha: alt-tab works here like "allways" whats the problem ?
[08:27] <cesar> i need configure ctvfmi
[08:27] <Lattyware> david83: hmmm :/
[08:28] <Lattyware> I need my sub :P
[08:28] <SoH|Tony> u guys say pppoeconf, ifconfig... so there must be a console to write those keywords and open it through there (as if in "run") ?
[08:28] <TokenBad> ok i need help with something...I have 2 drives...the second drive is partitioned...and I want to install ubuntu on the second of those partitions...but see no way to do that auto an in the manual setup no idea how to do it...anyone help please?
[08:28] <oskude> SoH|Tony: applications - accessories - terminal
[08:28] <david83> :) i guess there are a lot hardware solutions for that @ Lattyware
[08:28] <SoH|Tony> thanks oskude
[08:28] <ijii> no wonder why i didn't see the md5sum, it's kind of out of the way
[08:28] <swashbucklinstev> Is there a legal reason libdvdcss can't be installed via the repositories?
[08:29] <oskude> SoH|Tony: and yes, it quite hidden there, i would drag it to the panel ;)
[08:29] <smax> hi gang
[08:29] <JoshuaW> Hello?
[08:29] <kitche> swashbucklinstev: copyrighted
[08:29] <Sasuk3> i
[08:29] <david83> sorry SoH pppoeconf was just because i thought you were direct behind the modem so if you have a router ifconfig is better
[08:29] <Lattyware> david83: Well, my speakers actually support upmixing, but I use that for my 360, and I don't want to have to switch cables every time I want to switch device :/
[08:29] <Sasuk3> I want to check nubuntu
[08:29] <oskude> swashbucklinstev: there are even legal issues for that to even exist...
[08:29] <SoH|Tony> ok
[08:29] <swashbucklinstev> kitche: ah, I thought it would be more like the DMCA thing
[08:29] <SoH|Tony> ok david
[08:29] <smax> i attempted a   apt-get remove mldonkey-server  and i get the following error message.  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ln5xqS90.html
[08:29] <TokenBad> I am at the screen it talks about mount points and no idea how to make sure it installs to the partition I want it to...and without formating the parts I don't want it to format
[08:29] <smax> how can i rid of this package ?
[08:29] <swashbucklinstev> oskude: DMCA?
[08:30] <smax> it's interfereing with my apt-get install
[08:30] <sonialh> hola
[08:30] <oskude> swashbucklinstev: whats that ?
[08:30] <harsha> cesar: Previously, I could switch between two application windows with two alt-tab strikes. Now I have to hold the alt key continuously and hit the tab key. Even then, it does not go back to the last visited application window, it cycles to some other one. Well, I wonder if I did a good job explaining it.
[08:30] <Dr_willis> TokenBad,  figure out what partition you want it to install to. would be step 1 i guess
[08:30] <david83> @swashbuck because it cracks the DVD Protection and that's not legal
[08:30] <TokenBad> I know what partition...its hdd2
[08:30] <dyn-afk> dmca: that idiotic american piece of law about "copyright protection"
[08:30] <swashbucklinstev> oskude: in american law, Digital Millenium Copyright Act
[08:30] <TokenBad> but its at the mount point section and its asking questions I don't know the answer to
[08:31] <Sasuk3> Nubuntu the best hacking distro?
[08:31] <Sasuk3> http://oliverwine.info/nubuntu/screens/640/screen5.jpg
[08:31] <Sasuk3> xD
[08:31] <dyn-afk> it's more like a law to squeeze more money out of consumers :X
[08:31] <Kuto2> how do i clear my terminal?
[08:31] <Kuto2> how do i clear my terminal?
[08:31] <Kuto2> ?????????/
[08:31] <dyn-afk> clear
[08:31] <oskude> swashbucklinstev: dunno, i know very little about america (or even the law)
[08:31] <david83> clear
[08:31] <Dr_willis> TokenBad,  you want / mounted to that partition you want it to install to
[08:31] <SoH|Tony> i cant configure that alone. would it be the same as configuring it in windows? cuz then i can call a friend of mine =)
[08:31] <sonialh> alguien k mande priva2
[08:31] <Kuto2> no like clear clear
[08:31] <swashbucklinstev> it's the one that made black sharpies theoretically illegal because copy protection can be circumvented on some earlier CDs by blacking out the track
[08:31] <Dr_willis> Kuto2,  dont be so rude.. and use the cls command
[08:31] <kitche> Kuto2 type reset
[08:31] <Dr_willis> oops thats my own alias.. :P
[08:31] <Dr_willis> lol
[08:31] <swashbucklinstev> which contains the copy protection software
[08:32] <Dr_willis> cls = clear
[08:32] <Hattori> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192141 --> it hangs there.. what that mean???
[08:32] <TokenBad> Dr_willis: what about the rest of them...the swap and all that crap its asking about
[08:32] <patach> Hello, can anybody help me concerning hardware compadibility with ubuntu, xgl and compiz with a Imac
[08:32] <Dr_willis>  swashbucklinstev  that wasent even really copy protection.. it was just machine confusion.
[08:32] <oskude> swashbucklinstev: maybe theres a #politics or #law channel somewhere ;)
[08:32] <BullUK> HI, I dont want to interrupt while you guys are helping someone else, so once your done could someone help me to connect my smartphone via USB. TIA
[08:32] <harsha> cesar: how does it work for you?
[08:32] <patach> If it would be possible to work it.
[08:32] <sonialh> ay alguien k able espaol
[08:32] <Dr_willis> TokenBad,  if you had a sexction of the hard drive unallocated.. it could of setup the partitions automaticially. at a minimun you want a partition for / and a swap partitions
[08:33] <Zarephath_> Anyone know of a raw image viewer for digital photos?
[08:33] <ardchoille> !sp
[08:33] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[08:33] <ardchoille> !es
[08:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:33] <cesar> is a tarjet of tv
[08:33] <JoshuaW> Can someone help me? I've got the ISO onto a CD, but I haven't got further from there :(
[08:33] <swashbucklinstev> oskude: #ideologies, but being that it's copyrighted I'm satisfied. the install script is really spectacular btw.
[08:33] <swashbucklinstev> :)
[08:33] <Garnol> Hi .. juppi .. You can install ubuntu on Mobile drives  !!
[08:33] <Garnol> and ciao
[08:33] <TokenBad> Dr_willis: so if I go an unalicate the partition that I done as ext3 it will do it auto?
[08:34] <Dr_willis> JoshuaW,  #1 - what did youy use to burn the iso to a cd.
[08:34] <oskude> JoshuaW: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:34] <alex_ubuntu> OK this is confusing, dapper server won't let me access from my samba share from my ubuntu machine
[08:34] <patach> Would xgl and comp work on an Imac ppc?
[08:34] <Zarephath_> JoshuaW: What..you actually burned the .iso file to disk?
[08:34] <SoH|Tony> oh great. in windows i got everything on "obtain automaticly". now i dont know my IP nor my DNS to configure my ubuntu networking =(
[08:34] <JoshuaW> I did what it said I think xD
[08:34] <Dr_willis> TokenBad,  i alwasy just resize the  drives and leave a few gb in an unallocated space at the end.. and the installer asks to use that part..
[08:34] <david83> then take DHCP @ SoH
[08:34] <Dr_willis> JoshuaW,  Check the Cd.. see what files are on it.. if theres a single whatever.iso  -> you did it wrong.
[08:35] <JoshuaW> Yeah I did it wrong
[08:35] <kitche> SoH|Tony: it should eb set to DHCP automatically on install
[08:35] <Zarephath_> SoH|Tony: run --> cmd --> ipconfig /all
[08:35] <JoshuaW> Did I miss a file or extraction?
[08:35] <oskude> SoH|Tony: "optain automaticly" could mean "dhcp" ...
[08:35] <Zarephath_> clear
[08:35] <Dr_willis> JoshuaW,  WHAT program did you use to burn the iso to cd? I reccomend you use 'burn at once' (free for windows)
[08:35] <Zarephath_> What no iformation on raw image viewer for linux?
[08:35] <Zarephath_> *information*
[08:36] <davidj_> hello
[08:36] <david83> xawtv maybe?
[08:36] <Dr_willis> Zarephath_,  ive loaded them with gimp i do belive.
[08:36] <JoshuaW> I used CDBurner :P
[08:36] <kitche> Zarephath_: umm that is a windows command and he's running Linux now so how can that help him?
[08:36] <davidj_> Zarephath, try Gimp
[08:36] <Hattori> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192141 --> it hangs there.. what that mean???
[08:36] <Hattori> do i miss any package?
[08:36] <Hattori> hangs.. is more it waits any command from me
[08:36] <BullUK> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/01/209226    <---- looks to have some info on raw
[08:36] <Hattori> i write "q" and exit
[08:37] <JoshuaW> :P
[08:37] <Zarephath_> kitche: Uhhh...I mis-read what he was doing..he said he was in windows didn't he?
[08:37] <SoH|Tony> thanks Zarephath_
[08:37] <Zarephath_> NP
[08:37] <kitche> Hattori: it seems like your missing the linux-kernel source
[08:37] <Hattori> apt-get install linux-kernel?
[08:38] <SoH|Tony> so can i just write the same stuff from ipconfig /all from my PC's windows to my laptop's ubuntu?
[08:38] <Zarephath> Test
[08:38] <david83> @ Hattori it's a list of console commands just go to that address  http://pastebin.ca/192141
[08:38] <dark_light> I have ubuntu-desktop installed and I installed the xubuntu-desktop, because in Breezy these two packages coexisted fine. But in Dapper, while the default font for gtk2 apps is fine (including firefox), in xfce the fonts is odd: in xchat they are tiny, in many gnome apps they are OK, in firefox the menu fonts are huge but page fonts are OK.. how can i configure this properly?
[08:38] <SoH|Tony> wouldnd it make my connection chocke to death?
[08:38] <Trae> oskude: hmmm
[08:38] <davidj_> Is anyone familar with using "setarch" on ubuntu (or another similar program)?
[08:38] <Trae> that seems to be for an older version of Ubuntu
[08:38] <BullUK> if its configured for DHCP (which it will default to) then there should be no need to write anything in
[08:38] <Zarephath> Wow that was frickin' wierd...XChat opened two Ubuntu channels on startup..
[08:39] <Zarephath> Dr_Willis: Thanks...I was looking for a program just like a viewer not a viewer/editor
[08:39] <dark_light> my major problem is with firefox fonts, two points above the epiphany fonts
[08:39] <david83> doubleclick
[08:39] <oskude> Trae: sorry, im getting sleepy. what is for older ubuntu ?
[08:39] <Dr_willis> Zarephath,  google is your friend.. or just try the different viewers
[08:39] <Hattori> oh sorry
[08:39] <Hattori> http://pastebin.ca/192148
[08:39] <JoshuaW> :(
[08:39] <david83> @Zarephath pornview gthumb
[08:39] <Hattori> is the right link
[08:40] <david83> ;)
[08:40] <Trae> np
[08:40] <Trae> oskude: sorry, the first two methods failed
[08:40] <Trae> didn't realize there were more
[08:40] <elliotb> i updated to edgy, then when i rebooted, X won't start
[08:40] <Trae> oskude: go to sleep!
[08:40] <Trae> ;)
[08:40] <elliotb> error says, "failed to load module `ati` (module requirement mismatch) no drivers available"
[08:40] <elliotb> so sad
[08:40] <oskude> Trae: not yet...
[08:41] <BullUK> I'm having trouble getting my phone connected having followed a few how-tos. If I do a DMESG I can see that it's seeing the device but it doesn't mount it. Anyone know much about this ?
[08:41] <elliotb> anyone have any ideas?
[08:41] <ardchoille> elliotb: You might try #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <JoshuaW> *still confused*
[08:41] <elliotb> oh yeah, thanx ard
[08:41] <ardchoille> yw
[08:42] <Hattori> i'm trying to install ndiswrapper but i get: http://pastebin.ca/192148 --> it hangs there.. what that mean???
[08:42] <alex_ubuntu> why does my Ubuntu 606 server not show up in my routers DHCP table
[08:42] <david83> can somebody help me set up a "Terratec TerraCAM USB Pro" on Ubuntu??
[08:42] <atk> Hi. I'm a beginner with autotools and instructions say run aclocal but I can't find aclocal anywhere in the repositories. What's the catch?
[08:42] <kitche> Hattori: for some reason it's running perldebug which it should be doing
[08:42] <kitche> shouldn't*
[08:42] <Hattori> indeed
[08:42] <mjr> G,37
[08:42] <mjr> oops
[08:42] <Hattori> kitche: so what do to?
[08:43] <kitche> atk: aclocal is part of autotools
[08:43] <ardchoille> atk: type: which aclocal
[08:43] <fdr> hello... please, what is the quickest and easiest way to copy an audio cd under ubuntu?
[08:43] <BullUK> install gnomebaker
[08:43] <kitche> Hattori: reinstall ndiswrapper it seems
[08:43] <ladydoor> fdr: bashburn, or failing that gnomebaker or kd3
[08:43] <oskude> fdr: right click "copy cd" (iirc)
[08:43] <ardchoille> fdr: gnomebaker is quite nice
[08:44] <ijii> i just checked the md5sum of the image and it is different than the checksum listed, does that mean the mirror i downloaded from has an outdated one or something?
[08:44] <SoH|Tony> ok what im doing is: starting wXP on my laptop to get the infos from "ipconfig /all" and inserting it in the ubuntu networking configuration. is this a good idea?
[08:44] <kitche> ijii: no means your disc is bad
[08:44] <oskude> ijii: that means something went wrong on the way from the server to you
[08:44] <ardchoille> ijii: Could mean a corrupted download
[08:44] <buzzy-> how can i listen to .wav files?
[08:44] <kitche> SoH|Tony: yes you can do it that way if it's not a static ip
[08:44] <feross> SoH|Tony: if it's static yes, if it's dhcp probably not needed.
[08:44] <Trae> in grub, hd0,0 is hda1 right?
[08:44] <foo> I installed ubuntu server edition and then set up fulxbox ... what do I need to install to be able to get a network printer working on the network? Can I just install all printer utils?
[08:44] <atk> ardchoille: returns nothing
[08:44] <oskude> ijii: thats "normal" on the internet with big files...
[08:45] <BullUK> all you will need is the ip address, the subnet and the default gateway from the adapter your connecting via
[08:45] <ardchoille> oskude: I like you explanation better :)
[08:45] <atk> kitche: and how to get it?
[08:45] <kitche> atk: it should have installed when you installed autotools
[08:45] <SoH|Tony> "if it's dhcp probably not needed" if it was DHCP, firefox would have worked on ubuntu from hour0 right?
[08:45] <SoH|Tony> so it isnt?
[08:45] <david83> buzzy: did you tried xmms and totem-player?
[08:45] <ardchoille> kitche: I'm thinking he doesn't have autotools
[08:45] <BullUK> you can test by running ipconfig /renew in windows
[08:46] <BullUK> if it throws up an error about "no adapter is available" then your on static
[08:46] <kitche> ardchoille: yeah it seems that way
[08:46] <ru> it is possible to install eclipse from apt-get, without installing gnu-java? when eclipse run with gnu-java it works too slow (
[08:46] <kitche> !autotools > atk
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autotools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <SoH|Tony> "no operation can be performed on LAN while it has its media disconnected"
[08:46] <oskude> atk: have you actually tried to run that command ?
[08:46] <ardchoille> !info autotools
[08:46] <SoH|Tony> o my god
[08:47] <ubotu> Package autotools does not exist in any distro I know
[08:47] <SoH|Tony> i screwed my laptops internet
[08:47] <Lunar_Lamp> can anyone tell me why this command is not deleting files on the backup device that have been deleted on the primary device please: http://pastebin.co.uk/3099
[08:47] <kitche> SoH|Tony: do you have a cable connected to your laptop or is it though wifi?
[08:47] <atk> kitche, oskude: Well, I think I might not even have autotools installed. Only thing I could find is autotools-dev package, but shouldn't there be "autotools" package?
[08:47] <SoH|Tony> o damn i hate myself now i dont even have internet connection in windows. i shouldnt have installed linux >.<
[08:47] <SoH|Tony> cable
[08:47] <smax> im having trouble uninstalling  mldonkey-server,  it does not provide an uninstall script and apt-get remove shows  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ln5xqS90.html     and synaptec shows E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[08:48] <SoH|Tony> kitche: cable
[08:48] <oskude> atk: maybe they meen autoconf and/or automake, dunno...
[08:48] <BullUK> then the cable isnt connected correctly, do you have the little computer with an x in it by the clock?
[08:48] <SoH|Tony> it says the network cable is unplugged
[08:48] <davidj_> Anyone here familar with "setarch"?
[08:48] <foo> I installed ubuntu server edition and then set up fulxbox ... what do I need to install to be able to get a network printer working on the network? Can I just install all printer utils?
[08:48] <SoH|Tony> ya 3 X, 2 of them for wireless
[08:48] <Unbutunewbie> hello
[08:48] <Mille> i recommended ubuntu to a friend, but he has a major problem installing it. when you've choosed to start the live-cd it tries to load everything, but after a while the monitor goes to standby-mode. there after nothing more happens. he says that the cd is spinning but nothing happens for more then 15 minutes, the screen is just black. any ideas?
[08:48] <ardchoille> atk: Are you compiling aps?
[08:49] <devnull> back ... i moved my .gnome2 directory and my panels still aren't working
[08:49] <kitche> oskude: yes those are called autotools I know them by the name of the project
[08:49] <kitche> SoH|Tony: ok in a console type ifconfig eth0 up
[08:49] <devnull> i am very certain it is the panel or a panel applet and not some other program that is running
[08:49] <SoH|Tony> and yes the network cable is connected
[08:49] <atk> automake was the what I was missing, I already had autoconf :)
[08:49] <BullUK> kitche, he's in windows
[08:49] <SoH|Tony> kitche: first of all i want to rescue my internet connection in windows
[08:49] <oskude> devnull: and not using edgy or glx ?
[08:49] <atk> oskude: thanks
[08:49] <SoH|Tony> and the lights in the switch arent blinking
[08:49] <devnull> oskude no glx
[08:50] <kitche> SoH|Tony: well if it's windows then it should find the network automatically sounds like the switch is messed up
[08:50] <devnull> dapper
[08:50] <BullUK> well theres your problem then, the physical connection is down not much people can do from here
[08:50] <kitche> SoH|Tony: but open up the cmd and run ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew
[08:50] <BullUK> check the cable at both ends
[08:50] <Moriae> When I installed ubuntu, I wasn't prompted to create a password for 'root'. Is there a default password that it is set as?
[08:50] <JoshuaW> Can someone help me?
[08:50] <SoH|Tony> it says
[08:50] <oskude> devnull: have you installed applets outside ubuntu.com repos ? or even debs with dpkg ? or even self compiled ?
[08:50] <SoH|Tony> it says: "no operation can be performed on LAN while it has its media disconnected"
[08:50] <Stormx2> JoshuaW: Whats the problem?
[08:50] <kitche> !sudo > Moriae
[08:51] <Unbutunewbie> I've managed to install latest Ubunto desktop fine, but I tried installing the Server version and on first reboot it fails to load the and goes into a loop
[08:51] <Wheelybin> !easyubuntu
[08:51] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:51] <BullUK> your not going to get anywhere while he has no insertion
[08:51] <kitche> Moriae: you can set a password but ubuntu uses sudo
[08:51] <devnull> oskude no ... the only app i added lately was NM and deskbar-applet
[08:51] <Moriae> Okay
[08:51] <SoH|Tony> my lancard is still regognized as such
[08:51] <Unbutunewbie> anyone here point me in the right direction?
[08:51] <JoshuaW> I seem to have messed up, I put the .iso on a cd and I still don't know what I did wrong :P
[08:51] <BullUK> you have a PCMCIA ethernet connection?
[08:51] <kitche> SoH|Tony: check the switch make sure everything is plugged in and such
[08:51] <Moriae> Thank you very much kitche.
[08:51] <Moriae> You have been a tremendous help.
[08:52] <ijii> oops, my download was actually correct (i accidently md5summed the wrong file :( ). but still i was able to create a cd with no problem and seems to be working just fine
[08:52] <ardchoille> Moriae: Use sudo for cli apps and use gksudo for gui apps. enabling the root account is not supported nor recommended.
[08:52] <oskude> devnull: then maybe uninstalling the applets you last install... sorry, i dont know where to debug that...
[08:52] <Stormx2> Unbutunewbie: If you could let us know what the errors are, do so. The server installation is optimized to be just that, a server. You can run a server on a desktop installation too, if thats what you want.
[08:52] <SoH|Tony> kitche: this PC im writting to u with is connected in the same switch
[08:52] <ijii> joshua, what program are you using?
[08:52] <pitillo> hi good afternoon, is there an easy way to add a iptables script to load when computers starts?
[08:52] <JoshuaW> Program?
[08:52] <JoshuaW> CDBurner
[08:52] <JoshuaW> 3
[08:52] <oskude> JoshuaW: you dont just put an iso to an cd, you have to "burn it as image"
[08:52] <Unbutunewbie> ok hold on
[08:52] <kitche> SoH|Tony: doesn't mean the laptop cable is plugged in to it though
[08:52] <devnull> oskude its okay ... it sounds like a good idea, i will give it a shot
[08:52] <JoshuaW> Oh
[08:52] <JoshuaW> Well I'm stuck, its stuck on the CD now
[08:53] <SoH|Tony> kitche: its a 5meter cable. i have it in my hand
[08:53] <SoH|Tony> its plugged in both ends =\
[08:53] <BullUK> try another port on the router
[08:53] <kitche> SoH|Tony: might be the port is bad it happens to switches alot
[08:53] <JoshuaW> I even tried overwritting the file with a blank :P
[08:54] <BullUK> if your not getting insertion lights then you definitely have a physical problem that needs sorting first
[08:54] <SoH|Tony> im thrilled
[08:54] <oskude> devnull: how exactly did you burn the image ? did you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:54] <oskude> sorry devnull:, ment JoshuaW  how exactly did you burn the image ? did you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowt
[08:54] <JoshuaW> I read it but I may have done something wrong
[08:54] <devnull> oskude .... after hours it was the deskbar applet apparently
[08:55] <BullUK> is there anyone in the room who could help me getting my smartphone connected via USB?
[08:55] <oskude> devnull: hmm, hope it aint a bug...
[08:55] <JoshuaW> Is there a possibility of me being able to overwrite the current one on the cd, so I could do it properly? :P
[08:55] <oskude> JoshuaW: if its a RW, yes
[08:55] <kmaynard> seriously?
[08:55] <JoshuaW> Nope :(
[08:55] <devnull> oskude i hope not aswell .. i like deskbar applet ... it is much better than katapult
[08:55] <JoshuaW> Its an R
[08:55] <oskude> JoshuaW: then you need another blacnk cd-r
[08:55] <SoH|Tony> kitche: after the last indice of internet connection in my laptop, this is what i have done: install ubunto, add a DNS server in ubunto (that in got from this pc), restart to windows and boom, no connection
[08:56] <kitche> BullUK: who makes the phone?
[08:56] <EVRAMP> 6.10 releasing on 26TH?
[08:56] <JoshuaW> Hmm
[08:56] <BullUK> its a HTC wizard (O2 XDA mini s)
[08:56] <devnull> btw ... is it safe to continue to use dapper repos ?
[08:56] <oskude> devnull: from which repo did you install it ?
[08:56] <Stormx2> SoH|Tony: ubunto?
[08:56] <JoshuaW> I tried clearing a cd, by making every file on a cd = nothing :P
[08:56] <oskude> devnull: continue to use dapper repo ? what does that mean ?
[08:56] <Unbutunewbie> 'Booting 'Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-server'  <> root (hd0,4) <> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition typ 0x83 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-server root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ro quiet splash [linux-bzImage, setup=0x1c00, size=0x16c98f] 
[08:56] <SoH|Tony> ubuntu
[08:56] <SoH|Tony> u know i mean ubuntu
[08:57] <Stormx2> SoH|Tony: No I don't. It could have been a new distro.
[08:57] <oskude> JoshuaW: you can "clear" only RW...
[08:57] <devnull> dapper main
[08:57] <JoshuaW> Right
[08:57] <SoH|Tony> ok
[08:57] <kitche> SoH|Tony: I think that is an issue with ubuntu and WXP if I remember correctly
[08:57] <SoH|Tony> kitche: do u see anything wrong in that what ive done?
[08:57] <oskude> devnull: not what i ment... could you pastebin your sources.list file ?
[08:58] <Unbutunewbie> initrd /initrd,  img-2.6.15-26-server [Linux-initrd @ 0xd93e000, 0x6a183b bytes] 
[08:58] <devnull> oskude ... #flood
[08:58] <Unbutunewbie> savedefault
[08:58] <Unbutunewbie> booting
[08:58] <Unbutunewbie> it then reboots
[08:58] <oskude> devnull: ok
[08:58] <JoshuaW> oskude, can I ask another question?
[08:59] <kaur> how can i make ubuntu show me the name of a motherboard?
[08:59] <kaur> lshw didn't seem to work
[08:59] <Dr_willis> kaur,  good luck there.
[08:59] <oskude> JoshuaW: just ask all
[08:59] <kitche> kaur: I know how to do it with a shell script all it does is parse the bios for it
[08:59] <djuuss> Hey quick question, i'm in /etc/xorg.conf with vi, edited the stuff i needed to, how do i write changes to the file?
[09:00] <SoH|Tony> dude im totally shocked
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[09:00] <djuuss> cheers Dr_willis
[09:00] <SoH|Tony> ill shut it down and wait some until i chill down
[09:00] <BullUK> kaur, the device manager will show you the chipset of your motherboard. What else do you need ot know?
[09:00] <Dr_willis> vi 101 --> :help   (for help)  <esc> :wq to write/quit
[09:00] <Dr_willis> lol
[09:00] <JoshuaW> Well I use a DWL-g122 Adapter, so is there anyway I can find how to use it?
[09:01] <kaur> i want to upgrade bios
[09:01] <davidj_> Anyone here familar with "setarch"?
[09:01] <silox> i have a Dell Dimension 8100 Laptop with a extra screen connected to it, so i am not using the laptop screen. But there one problem, i cant watch movies on the extra screen, it works if i unplug the extra screen and watch it on the laptop... Whats the problem?
[09:01] <kaur> the bios is from american megatrends
[09:01] <BullUK> wouldnt it be simple to look at the stick on the mobo?
[09:01] <phaedrus44> how do i tell if a drive is ntfs or fat32?
[09:01] <BullUK> sticker
[09:01] <kaur> ok the chipset should be enough
[09:01] <Dr_willis> phaedrus44,  fdisk -l /dev/whatever
[09:01] <oskude> JoshuaW: if thats wlan, try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[09:01] <IcemanV9> phaedrus44: sudo fdisk -l
[09:01] <phaedrus44> thanks Dr_willis
[09:02] <phaedrus44> and IcemanV9
[09:02] <JoshuaW> Nope
[09:02] <JoshuaW> The one I'm using isn't there :P
[09:02] <BullUK> I'm still looking for someone to help me get my phone connected if anyone's free. I've confirmed the OSE sees it when it connects, I just need to get it to mount
[09:03] <BullUK> OSE = OS.... sorry
[09:03] <oskude> JoshuaW: so that could mean noone has added it to that list...
[09:03] <kitche> BullUK: you never anwsered me who makes the phone?
[09:03] <howieson26> hallo hab mal eine frage wie kann ich auf meine diskette zugreifen
[09:04] <oskude> !de
[09:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:04] <Unbutunewbie> hi guys I have a similar problem to this tread here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256144
[09:04] <BullUK> I did.... but you may have missed it in the mix up there. Its a HTC wizard that's badged as a O2 XDA mini s. Its a windows mobile 2005 device
[09:04] <highneko> Is it possible to programs from being highlighted when they're active or something? Here's a screenshot: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/Screenshot5.png
[09:04] <Unbutunewbie> anyone got any idears
[09:04] <kitche> BullUK: hmm don't know anything about those phones but I tend to look for highlighted lines :)
[09:05] <kothz> Hrm.  Go for guinness.  Install kubuntu.  Go for guinness.  Install kubuntu.  Decisions, decisions...
[09:05] <JoshuaW> :p
[09:05] <Unbutunewbie> I'm trying to install the server edition because I want to build a jabber/asterisk machine
[09:05] <Stormx2> kothz: guinness! guinness!!
[09:05] <BullUK> just incase this means something to you anyway. If I do a dmsg I get:
[09:05] <alex_ubuntu> why does my Ubuntu 606 server not show up in my routers DHCP table
[09:05] <Stormx2> alex_ubuntu: Its not connecting via DHCP?
[09:06] <BullUK> [17190729.748000]  usb 1-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
[09:06] <kothz> Could it be answering it's own DHCP request? :)
[09:06] <alex_ubuntu> It appears toa be functioning but when i go into the clients list on the router... no server
[09:06] <oskude> alex_ubuntu: does the server use dhcp on that router ?
[09:06] <BullUK> so its connecting and been seen, but if I run a "diff" over the /dev directory nothing changes so it isn't mounting
[09:06] <alex_ubuntu> I have been trying to figure that out
[09:06] <lnx^> hiya, I'm playing with tc & wondershaper to limit my bandwidth
[09:07] <kitche> alex_ubuntu: my linux never shows up on my router's DHCP but it works
[09:07] <howieson26> ich weis aber ich komme auf den server nicht drauf
[09:07] <lnx^> it works fine, but I'd like to limit it that way that it doesn't affect my home network (192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0)
[09:07] <lnx^> how'd I specify that 'exception' to tc/wondershaper?
[09:07] <alex_ubuntu> well mine won't let me in the SAMBA share
[09:07] <lnx^> the current command seems to be: tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 18 u32 match ip dst 0.0.0.0/0 flowid 1:20
[09:07] <howieson26> kann jemand nicht sagen ob es irgendwo ein men gibt wo ich denn inhalt der diskette abrufen kann?
[09:07] <lnx^> so, is there any way to change that dst 0.0.0.0/0 so that it matches everything BUT my local network?
[09:07] <alex_ubuntu> how do I determine the IP adddress of the server
[09:07] <oskude> !de > howieson26
[09:07] <meheren> what media player can play aiff files?
[09:08] <howieson26> !de
[09:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:08] <kitche> alex_ubuntu: on the server run ifconfig
[09:08] <oskude> meheren: i think the "standard" player should play that...
[09:08] <kitche> howieson26: ask in #ubuntu-de
[09:09] <meheren> oskude... waht is the standard ubuntu media player..? heh
[09:09] <oskude> meheren: double click ?
[09:09] <alex_ubuntu> kitche: the address is there and valid for my network, now for the samba share
[09:09] <finalbeta> can one do a cron job every 2 days?
[09:09] <tannerld> yep
[09:09] <alex_ubuntu> Why can't I log in..
[09:09] <BullUK> what OS is the PC your using to connect to the share?
[09:09] <meheren> oskude... im using xubuntu and xffm doesn't play it
[09:10] <alex_ubuntu> ubuntu 606
[09:10] <meheren> err xfmedia
[09:10] <meheren> oskude, i mean xfmedia
[09:10] <alex_ubuntu> even my win xp won't log in
[09:10] <motin> Appreciate feedback and the likes: http://wiki.motin.eu/BackingUpALinuxDesktopTheKillerStrategy
[09:10] <Rez> finalbeta: sure... use */2 for day  might skip the 31st and 1st though ;)
[09:10] <oskude> meheren: ah ok... (#xubuntu?) im pretty sure my favorite audioplayer xmms can play that
[09:10] <motin> :)
[09:10] <meheren> ok
[09:10] <meheren>  thx
[09:10] <BullUK> so ubuntu server hosts the share, ubuntu desktop is connecting to it?
[09:10] <finalbeta> Rez thnx
[09:10] <kitche> alex_ubuntu: well samba has it's own users if you didn't set one up then you can't log in
[09:11] <alex_ubuntu> I am sure I did that, does the SMB.conf shopw those
[09:11] <highneko> Is it possible to stop programs from being highlighted when they're active or something? Here's a screenshot: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/Screenshot5.png
[09:12] <kitche> alex_ubuntu: I m not sure since I use swat to setup samba myself
[09:12] <meheren> i dan't think i have the appropriate plugins to yplay aiff files
[09:12] <meheren> *don't
[09:12] <Wheelybin> !samba
[09:12] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:13] <kazim59> I m trying to install libiksemel... But I get this error.... libiksemel3 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[09:13] <alex_ubuntu> I created a SAMBA group and assigned my user to the group
[09:13] <alex_ubuntu> I chmod'd the share to access it
[09:13] <Wheelybin> !nvidia
[09:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:13] <oskude> meheren: hmm, if i had a aiff file i could test... (never played those)
[09:13] <kazim59> !libc6
[09:13] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[09:14] <kitche> alex_ubuntu: so you setup a group though samba correct? or did you do it though groupadd or addgroup
[09:14] <alex_ubuntu> groupadd
[09:15] <kaur> ubuntu does not seem to know the name of my laptops motherboard
[09:15] <kitche> alex_ubuntu: well I think samba also has it's own group as well samba has it's own userlist which you have to create and group list I believe I m sure about the userlist
[09:15] <kaur> how can i figure that out?
[09:16] <kazim59> I m trying to install libiksemel... But I get this error.... libiksemel3 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[09:16] <oskude> meheren: redaing some docs, it looks xmms needs a plugin for aiff :/ but
[09:17] <meheren> oskude what is the name of the plugin.. ill install it
[09:23] <oskude> meheren: this should make "double click" to play aiff "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-audiofile"
[09:23] <meheren> ok thx
[09:23] <meheren> i know haw to intsall packages... heh
[09:23] <oskude> meheren: i dont find the xmms plugin in repos (if it exists)
[09:23] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here use libmtp?
[09:23] <meheren> i use apitiude though
[09:23] <fu-k-t> i'm reading some instructions, and they tell me to restart the X server.  how do i do that?
[09:23] <kaur> how can i detect a motherboard using ubuntu?
[09:23] <fu-k-t> preferably without rebooting
[09:23] <oskude> meheren: np
[09:23] <kazim59> Why is ubuntu libc6 library not working? dpkg says it needs >=2.3.6-6 etc...
[09:23] <IcemanV9> kaur: sudo lshw
[09:23] <meheren> ok lets see if that worked
[09:23] <motin> I really would like feedback from this channel. Anyone care to look at it and see if it makes sense?
[09:23] <kaur> crtl+alt_backspace kill x
[09:23] <ubuntu_> hello
[09:23] <kaur> IcemanV9: it says unknown or smth
[09:23] <got_root> I have just booted with an Ubuntu LiveCD v5.10
[09:23] <got_root> which is the default root password for ir?
[09:23] <meheren> oskude, worked thanks
[09:23] <SoH|Tony> is there a way to uninstall ubuntu through the OS?
[09:23] <kitche> kazim59: because ubunt has 2.3.6 not 2.3.6-6 or higher
[09:23] <alex_ubuntu> kitche: thanks for the help I got it, when you said samba users I remembered something and sure enough... right user, right p[assword and in I am
[09:23] <keegan_> !restricted
[09:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:23] <oskude> meheren: roger. np
[09:23] <IcemanV9> kaur: dmesg
[09:23] <meheren> oskude, hmm still doesn't play in xmms though
[09:23] <meheren> oh well
[09:23] <oskude> meheren: yes. xmms soesnt use gstreamer
[09:23] <SoH|Tony> is there a way to uninstall ubuntu through the OS? i belive it runied my internet connection and i hope it will work after the uninstallation =(
[09:23] <got_root> (repeat - won't repeat again though) hello! I have just booted an Ubuntu v5.10 LiveCD, what is the default root password for it?
[09:23] <wrtpeeps> guys, netstat -nr shows my destination as 192.168.2.0, but my router is 2.1
[09:23] <kaur> IcemanV9: what should i look for?
[09:23] <meheren> ah
[09:23] <wrtpeeps> could this be why i cannot ping my router?
[09:23] <kitche> got_root: ubuntu doesn't use root
[09:23] <wrtpeeps> and if so, how can i change that
[09:23] <kazim59> kitche: I tried to install a library called libiksemel... it said libiksemel3 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[09:23] <oskude> meheren: it seems no one bothered to do a ubuntu package from this plugin http://www.68k.org/~michael/xmms/
[09:23] <BullUK> after connecting a USB device and running dmesg at the terminal I get this "usb 1-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4". Am I right in thinking ubuntu is fully connected at this point?
[09:23] <meheren> ah
[09:23] <got_root> and how will I overcome this then? --> mkdir: cannot create directory `hda': Permission denied
[09:23] <kitche> kazim59: yes you need a higher verison then 2.3.6 which ubuntu uses
[09:23] <muthu> how do i mount a linux lvm (centos) filesystem from ubuntu?
[09:23] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm getting garbled images in FireFox.  How do I stop it from happening?
[09:23] <silox> where is the inittab file in Ubuntu 6.10???
[09:23] <kitche> BullUK: well it sees the device and is connected doesn't mean that there is a mountpoint for it
[09:23] <Kuto2> hey
[09:23] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here use libmtp?
[09:23] <kazim59> kitche: so i cant install it? plz take a look here http://www.swapdepths.nl/2006/06/
[09:23] <Tonren> silox: "locate inittab"
[09:23] <IcemanV9> kaur: sudo lshw works for me .. not dmesg. is it your box a laptop or desktop?
[09:23] <kaur> IcemanV9: laptop
[09:23] <BullUK> there deffinately isn't but at least if I know the first bit is working I can start googling the mount point issue :-)
[09:23] <cpk2> got_root: where are you trying to make the dir?
[09:23] <kaur> IcemanV9: otherwise i'd open it...
[09:23] <kitche> kazim59: you can't install it unless you get a newer version of libc6
[09:24] <SoH|Tony> its impossible that ubuntu cant be uninstalled!
[09:24] <IcemanV9> kaur: hm. if lshw does not say anything, then you may go to their website for the product specf page.
[09:24] <kazim59> kitche: apt-get install libc6 says libc6 is in the newest version.
[09:24] <silox> Tonren: it only finds a sample /usr/share/gnome/help/desktopguide/sample/inittab_disablectrlaltdelconsole
[09:24] <got_root> cpk2: inside /mnt
[09:25] <Tonren> silox: hmm.....
[09:25] <kitche> SoH|Tony: only way to uninstall ubuntu is to install something over it or format the partitions it's on
[09:25] <cpk2> got_root: no sudo?
[09:25] <oskude> SoH|Tony: can you uninstall a running windows with itself ?
[09:25] <SoH|Tony> damn
[09:25] <kitche> kazim59: yeah the newer version you have to compile or maybe edgy has it but that might break your dapper
[09:25] <oskude> SoH|Tony: you got ideas... :/
[09:25] <cpk2> you certainly need root to do stuff in /mnt
[09:26] <ucordes> how can i get my mmc flashdisk to be read/write. when i type mount, i get : /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/mmcdisk type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[09:26] <kaur> IcemanV9: u mean the website of the firm who sold the box?
[09:26] <SoH|Tony> my laptop doesnt recognize the network cable its connected to. what can i do?
[09:26] <got_root> cpk2: worked! thanks
[09:26] <muthu> how to access a lvm from ubuntu?
[09:26] <Hattori> why wireless network is set to eth1 and not on wlan0?
[09:26] <BullUK> tony, have you tried connecting that cable to the PC your currently using, that way ypu'll know if the cable is good or not
[09:26] <osman> #xgl
[09:26] <oskude> SoH|Tony: regonize network cable ?
[09:27] <SoH|Tony> ok ill do that BullUK
[09:27] <IcemanV9> kaur: yes. ie lenovo for ibm thinkpads, dell for latitudes
[09:27] <kitche> Hattori: you can call it wlan0 with a udev rule
[09:27] <ucordes> SoH|Tony: "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" that's what i do in such a case
[09:27] <silox> it says /etc/inittab in the sample file but there is no inittab file in /etc :/
[09:27] <BullUK> ucordes... hes in windows
[09:27] <ucordes> lol
[09:27] <SoH|Tony> ok
[09:27] <ucordes> anybody knows something? do i have to change my fstab?
[09:27] <IcemanV9> kaur: otherwise, lshw provides info
[09:27] <SoH|Tony> neither windows nor linux recognizes it
[09:27] <SoH|Tony> ill try it, urco
[09:27] <SoH|Tony> ucordes
[09:28] <kaur> IcemanV9: it's quite an unknown and little firm compared to IBM and AFAIK they do not specify the motherboard
[09:28] <ucordes> i don't think it will help when you have the same problem in other OSs too
[09:28] <Hattori> kitche: how to do that?
[09:28] <BullUK> well if youve got 2 pcs that dont get insertion its a pretty safe bet either the cable, or the router is at fault
[09:28] <ucordes> but you can try. this shuts down your network interface and loads it again..
[09:28] <got_root> cpk2: usind a sudo su -
[09:28] <oskude> silox: i got /etc/inittab
[09:28] <got_root> cpk2: will do fine
[09:29] <ucordes> !mmc
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <ucordes> !flashdisc
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashdisc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <IcemanV9> kaur: sorry. that's all i know what to look for. :(
[09:29] <oskude> silox: have you deleted the file ? do you have ubuntu dapper ?
[09:29] <cpk2> got_root: you can just sudo mkdir
[09:29] <str47> hey
[09:29] <StAfZe6> hello
[09:29] <lg8> Hello
[09:29] <knoppix_> ger?
[09:29] <smax> is etch or breezy  examples of repos ?
[09:29] <kitche> Hattori: well I m not to familiar with it myself but I know there is documents on it all over the Internet
[09:29] <kaur> IcemanV9: thanks anyway
[09:29] <Zaggynl> Hi, I just installed beryl through synaptic, it's finished, how do I use beryl now?
[09:29] <SoH|Tony> BullUK the cable works. im using it now as we speak
[09:30] <SoH|Tony> didnt have time for a mirc timeout thats why i didnt disconnect
[09:30] <silox> oksude yes i think so but i run the 6.10 Beta version
[09:30] <mwylegly_> Hmm, I have a bit of a problem, I've been running ubuntu and windows on my laptop fine for a couple months now, I did an update today and it seems that ubuntu has overwritten my windows bootload option in grub. Any ideas?
[09:30] <GRUB> hallo
[09:30] <AngryElf> hey all -- how do i stop a cron job from generating an email?
[09:30] <oskude> silox: ok, thats edgy, not dapper. edgy read !edgy
[09:30] <oskude> !edgy
[09:30] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:31] <silox> !edgy
[09:31] <BullUK> then either the physical port on the laptop is damaged or disabled
[09:31] <kazim59> !edgy
[09:31] <Zaggynl> !beryl
[09:31] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[09:31] <SoH|Tony> ill format it completely and reinstall windows
[09:31] <oskude> nice, a timeout on the bot :)
[09:31] <muthu> is it possible to mount linux lvm in ubuntu?
[09:32] <BullUK> just a thought although its a long shot
[09:32] <BullUK> are you running a switch or a router?
[09:32] <Xi_> hmm
[09:33] <KEA0463> hello ubuntu family
[09:33] <osman> is there a edgy channel?
[09:33] <kitche> IcemanV9: beryl is the community version of compiz and it seems better
[09:33] <oskude> !edgy > osman
[09:33] <stebeg> hello familiy
[09:33] <osman> cheers
[09:33] <osman> #edgy
[09:33] <kitche> IcemanV9: aiglx is the indirect version of xgl while xgl is direct rendering
[09:33] <buzzy-> people i have installed w32codecs, but if i listen to a .wav file it is choppy!!!...how can i solve?
[09:33] <oskude> osman: its: /j #edgy
[09:33] <BullUK> I've got a USB device that isnt creating a mount point. Can anyone offer me a starting point so that I can do some research on the topic
[09:34] <osman> its eempty oskude
[09:34] <KEA0463> whats the best video player for ubuntu
[09:34] <str47> good
[09:34] <lg8> unsure
[09:34] <IcemanV9> kitche: ok. thks for info.
[09:34] <_halo`> not sure
[09:34] <osman> BullUK, have u created an entry dfor it in /etc/fstab????
[09:34] <stebeg> kea0463: mplayer
[09:34] <kitche> IcemanV9: I like aiglx it's less of a hog in my opinion
[09:34] <mabus> Can I use a modified environment variable when calling a command (like say from a shell script run by crontab) without having it change that variable for other use? ie like, in one command call a program and have it use a different term var
[09:34] <KEA0463>  o ok
[09:34] <ucordes> does anyone have a SD CARD connected to his ubuntu box and can give me the according entry from fstab?
[09:34] <KEA0463>  do i just apt-get Mplayer
[09:34] <oskude> osman: look what ubotu send you, theres the channel... i was just repeating you
[09:34] <KEA0463> or do i need more stuff
[09:35] <bilss_> hi
[09:35] <BullUK> osman...I was under the impression I wouldnt need to. If I connect a USB flash drive the mount point is auto created
[09:35] <osman> thanx oskude
[09:35] <cpk2> KEA0463: you might need the proper codecs to play certain formats
[09:35] <kazim59> Utunbu
[09:35] <KEA0463> ok i got all the codecs
[09:35] <osman> BullUK, not really, make any entry in fstab then it will auto mount
[09:35] <kazim59> !blah > kazim59
[09:35] <carmanOS> hi, i have an ubuntu livecd and a vm image running on suse. is there a quicker way to get the ubuntu fonts on my suse box then this - ? run the livecd, mount suse then copy the fonts over?
[09:35] <DethKlok> Whats a good SNMP monitoring program for linux?
[09:35] <KEA0463> i have like 5 players!
[09:35] <osman> I think BullUK
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <KEA0463> dont know which one i sbest
[09:35] <KEA0463> best
[09:36] <KEA0463> 8
[09:36] <KEA0463> best
[09:36] <Xi_> Is there anychannel that I can goto to get help with regards to ubuntu overwriting my windows bootload option in  grub?
[09:36] <mabus> DethKlok: ethereal?
[09:36] <gabriel> hello
[09:36] <buzzy-> people i have installed w32codecs, but if i listen to a .wav file it is choppy!!!...how can i solve?
[09:36] <mabus> Xi_: !windows
[09:36] <mabus> !windows
[09:36] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:36] <silox>  oskude: /etc/default/console-setup is it this file i chould edit?
[09:36] <KEA0463> o yeah i cant play .wav files
[09:36] <BullUK> maybe I should clarify, the device is a mobile phone which doesnt emulate a disk so I'm not sure if I'd be creating myself a bigger problem by doing that?
[09:36] <kaur> IcemanV9: sry, it doesn't say unknown
[09:36] <KEA0463> only .mpg
[09:36] <nexeus> vcl player less resource hungry
[09:36] <kitche> mabus: ethereal doesn't exist anymore just so you know it's called wireshark now
[09:36] <oskude> silox: i have no idea...
[09:36] <KEA0463> and sometimes when i click on a picture it says
[09:36] <mabus> Xi_: well I'm not quite sure, but there's a frequently referred to page about it
[09:36] <KEA0463> -no picture-
[09:37] <silox> oskude ok
[09:37] <kaur> IcemanV9: but AFAIK as i know it says the vendr of BIOS
[09:37] <DethKlok> kitche: when did they rename it?
[09:37] <mabus> kitche: actually it more or less forked, there's still an etheral web site and developpment
[09:37] <BullUK> xi..... this happend to me a few days ago, let me dig out the link in the forums that helped me, brb
[09:37] <kaur> IcemanV9: not motherboards vendor
[09:37] <kitche> BullUK: you need special software to access a phone
[09:37] <bilss_> how to open gnome-terminal get this error  gnomeerminal 7152) Gtk warning cannot open display-t
[09:37] <ijii> i'm baaaaaack, i have a problem: what's the easy program to get to allow me to boot into ubuntu?
[09:37] <phaedrus44> ello...how do i create a disk partition that can be read by windows?
[09:37] <mabus> bilss_: trying to open a gui program as root (sudo)?
[09:37] <ucordes> !sdcard
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <mabus> bilss_: or from your terminal
[09:38] <ladydoor> mabus: use gksudo
[09:38] <BullUK> kitche, you may be right but the reading I've done on synce suggest that my mobile should be supported by it.......
[09:38] <got_root> phaedrus44, create a fat32 partition
[09:38] <mabus> bilss_: ie: tty1
[09:38] <mabus> ladydoor: I'm not the one with the problem.
[09:38] <phaedrus44> got_root  with fdisk?
[09:38] <kitche> BullUK: I don't know much about sync besides the phones that I know about
[09:38] <got_root> try gparted
[09:38] <bilss_> mabus: yes
[09:38] <ladydoor> mabus: oh yeah...lol. sorry
[09:38] <IcemanV9> kaur: ha. weird. motherboard is right under *-core, then *-firmware is next (BIOS)
[09:38] <nexeus> phaedrus44, cfdisk is quite good
[09:38] <BullUK> no worries, Ill just have to keep reading
[09:39] <mabus> bilss_: you can't open up guis from tty1, and to open a gui as root in gnome use gksudo instead of sudo
[09:39] <fre4k> anyone have any idea about siocaddrt:network is unreachable
[09:39] <kaur> IcemanV9: core's physical id:0
[09:39] <SoH|Tony> kitche: OK now ill try formatting both linux partitions, merging them then using fixmbr to boot windows. good idea?
[09:39] <phaedrus44> hhmmm...i keep doing that and then when i reboot and mount   "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"  it asks for filesystem type
[09:39] <Virogenesis> Does anyone have any experience with brctl ?
[09:40] <BullUK> xi   .....   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271335&highlight=grub  take it from point 4 and substitute "nano" for "gedit" if your using ubuntu
[09:40] <gabriel> hello
[09:40] <kitche> SoH|Tony: well if you r onyl using windows it's a good idea
[09:41] <Virogenesis> hello I need to setup a bridge between a ATHEROS wireless card and a ethernet card, and I am having issues, can anyone give me a hand
[09:41] <IcemanV9> kaur: same here plus desc, prod, vendor, version, serial; it shows everything.
[09:41] <ijii> is there an easier program than LILO to load Windows or Ubuntu?
[09:41] <bilss_> mabus (useing x-win32 from windowsmachine to linux box) yes thats what i get in putty but x-win32 does connect but cannot open display gives no error message
[09:41] <kmaynard> grub
[09:41] <KEA0463> dirty grub
[09:41] <Dr_willis> easier? Hmm Lilo is fairly easy.. but limited
[09:41] <kmaynard> ijii, grub
[09:42] <ucordes> Virogenesis: do you use madwifi-ng?
[09:42] <kaur> IcemanV9: i don't have these sections
[09:42] <synjet> hi gabriel
[09:42] <KEA0463> geuss what
[09:42] <Dr_willis> GRUB is the next higher up on the  bootloader chain. :)
[09:42] <SoH|Tony> kitche: ok
[09:42] <KEA0463> when i tried to install ubuntu
[09:42] <KEA0463> it said cant install because of partitioning
[09:42] <mabus> bilss_: you don't just call the guis from the terminal putty gives you, you have to have an xsession forwarded. beyond my scope
[09:42] <KEA0463> it took me 8 hours to figure it out
[09:42] <Dr_willis> KEA0463,  got 1 hard drive?
[09:43] <KEA0463> then it said cant install base system
[09:43] <gabriel> i am a newbie and i have a problem when i want to see the network servers...  it says: "network:///" is not a valid location.
[09:43] <IcemanV9> kaur: well. that's too bad. :(
[09:43] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:43] <bilss_> mbus: ok thanks
[09:43] <KEA0463> so i switched cds and now it works
[09:43] <Dr_willis> It pays to read some install guides first/. :)
[09:43] <KEA0463> i found that out
[09:43] <KEA0463> :(
[09:43] <Dr_willis> bad cd? hmm.. that always sucks
[09:43] <KEA0463> yeah bad cd
[09:43] <KEA0463> 4 of em
[09:43] <synjet> bilss_: did you use the -X option for ssh? as in ssh -X
[09:43] <KEA0463> the 5 th one worked
[09:43] <mabus> So can somebody tell me how to set my TERM to xterm-256color when calling elinks, preferably as an alias in my profile?
[09:43] <kaur> IcemanV9: actually, i wanted to flash bios because the fan of my laptop never completely stop...
[09:44] <kaur> IcemanV9: but now i have a feeling that the fan has to work
[09:44] <KEA0463> this is the best working version of linux i tried
[09:44] <kitche> kaur: that has to do with the kernel not the bios
[09:44] <KEA0463> i tried gentoo
[09:44] <gabriel> anybody can help me please?
[09:44] <KEA0463> but it said it didnt ahve wireless support
[09:44] <KEA0463> so i installed ubuntu
[09:44] <kitche> KEA0463: it does if you want to install it :)
[09:44] <KEA0463> really
[09:45] <KEA0463> how?
[09:45] <kaur> kitche: what kernel should i use then? Dual core must work
[09:45] <segfault> kaur, for dual core use 686 kernel
[09:45] <Hattori> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032
[09:45] <foo> Hm, ok, I installed gnome-cups-manager ... and I am trying to add the network printer, but I don't see the hp officejet driver. I installed hpoj ...restarted cups, and restarted the cups manager ... still don't see the drive. What do I need to install?
[09:45] <Hattori> who have any clue?
[09:45] <kitche> kaur: the kernel your on now but the fan not stopping has to do with the kernel settings
[09:45] <KEA0463> i checked it said gentoo currently doesnt have wireless support
[09:45] <Xi_> after putting in gedit -w/boot/grub/grub.conf I get a error that reads unknown option
[09:46] <kitche> KEA0463: it doesn't have wireless support by default you have to install everything from scratch
[09:46] <IcemanV9> kaur: there is a reason why i keep winxp to flash bios. like segfault said, use kernel-686 for dual core
[09:46] <ucordes> i really despare on this. can't anyone help? i can't get r/w rights for me sd card. not with usb card reader nor with integrated card reader
[09:46] <z3r0x> I'm trying to install mail-notification 3.0 but the configure script is looking for gnome libraries -> GNOME... configure: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries...  which package is it?
[09:46] <KEA0463> o 2 hard 4 me
[09:46] <kaur> segfault: i use 686 but there is a problem with fan
[09:46] <kitche> Xi_: it's menu.lst not grub.conf
[09:46] <gabriel> can anybody help me please? I am a newbie and i have a problem when i want to see the network servers...  it says: "network:///" is not a valid location.
[09:46] <KEA0463> i new
[09:46] <KEA0463> i am doing some C++ with ubuntu
[09:46] <kaur> segfault: it never completely stops
[09:47] <KEA0463> i figured out how to compille last night
[09:47] <KEA0463> that took me 8 hours to figure out to
[09:47] <kmaynard> gabriel, are you online?
[09:47] <Sasuk3> You can use anjuta
[09:47] <Sasuk3> gcc in console
[09:47] <BullUK> ah ha! cat /proc/bus/usb/devices shows a device with a manufacturer of "HTC" ie my phone........
[09:47] <KEA0463> seems like each task takes me hours to complete
[09:47] <Sasuk3> or geany .. eclipse with plugins
[09:47] <kmaynard> like, with your network and all, not just the net?
[09:47] <segfault> kaur, u asked what kernel for dual core i answered, fan is an acpi issue i think
[09:47] <gabriel> yes kmaynard
[09:47] <Sasuk3> KEA0463
[09:47] <Xi_> still  getting the same effect with menu.lst
[09:47] <Dr_willis> it pays to read. :P
[09:47] <Dr_willis> and read read read read...
[09:47] <kaur> segfault: ok. Any ideas?
[09:47] <TheGateKeeper> KEA0463: it's called learning lol
[09:47] <KEA0463> yeah
[09:48] <Hattori> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- anybody has any idea how to fix that??
[09:48] <kitche> Xi_: are you gksudoing or not?
[09:48] <kmaynard> gabriel, is it a new dapper install, or did you upgrade from breezy?
[09:48] <Dr_willis> tldp.org guides are a good starting point.
[09:48] <KEA0463> i must be a slow learner
[09:48] <segfault> kaur, not really, google for ur laptop, its likely someone else has had a similar experience
[09:48] <Dr_willis> dont be 'task focused' read just to get a over all picture
[09:48] <KEA0463> or somefin
[09:48] <BullUK> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1403948&postcount=35 makes sobering reading :-(
[09:48] <gabriel> this is a ubuntu christian edition but i didnt have that problem with ubuntu
[09:48] <KEA0463> cause windows never took me this long to figure out
[09:48] <kmaynard> ah ha
[09:48] <TheGateKeeper> KEA0463: a lot faster when ask questions in irc, use the wiki & forums
[09:48] <Dr_willis> windows trains peole to be 'task focused' not 'fundamental skills' focused
[09:48] <kaur> segfault: unfortunately my laptop is quite unknown
[09:48] <ucordes> gabriel: a christian edition?
[09:49] <KEA0463> oh i see
[09:49] <Dr_willis> you learnhow to do THIS in windows.. and have no clue about what you just did..
[09:49] <ithiel> Ubuntu Christian Edition? wtf?
[09:49] <kyaneos> hi
[09:49] <FunnyLookinHat> gabriel, do you mean ichtux?
[09:49] <kyaneos> i have a problem
[09:49] <kmaynard> gabriel, you may want to try official dapper...UCE is pretty new, as is its creator
[09:49] <gabriel> yes
[09:49] <Xi_> k, when I do what it says on the link I try the mount /boot command and I can't fain /boot
[09:49] <ithiel> what is this, Linux groomed for censorship and oppression?
[09:49] <kmaynard> then go back and add UCE apps
[09:49] <fre4k> anyone have any idea about siocaddrt:network is unreachable
[09:49] <kyaneos> (nautilus:8527): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:49] <TheGateKeeper> KEA0463: a collection of bits & pieces I found usefull ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[09:49] <ucordes> gabriel what is that?
[09:49] <psylocybe> hey, how can i play mp3 files in amarok?
[09:49] <kyaneos> i can not launch nautilus nor some gnome programs
[09:49] <ajax4_> !easysource
[09:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:49] <kitche> gabriel: ask ubuntu christian edition people since that's notmade by Ubuntu
[09:50] <KEA0463> ok thanks i bookmarked it
[09:50] <redguy> !restricted > ajax4_
[09:50] <KEA0463> whats the best browser for ubuntu
 what is this, Linux groomed for censorship and oppression? << compared to what companies can do with a BSD licensed piece of software, Linux really is censored & oppressed
[09:50] <segfault> psylocybe, read site on restricted formats
[09:50] <KEA0463> when i start firefox the words look little and crappy
[09:50] <FunnyLookinHat> for all who are curious as to what gabriel is talking about, ichtux is a livecd based on kubuntu (I think) that has bible software installed on it.  It is a part of crosswire.org and the sword project.
[09:50] <kitche> KEA0463: umm it depends on preference it's easy to just try out browsers
[09:50] <KEA0463> k
[09:50] <gabriel> i dont know to much of this.. i am a newbie, i dont know what is a dapper
[09:51] <kyaneos> can somebody help me? please
[09:51] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm getting lots of garbled images in FireFox.  What's the deal??
[09:51] <TheGateKeeper> KEA0463: you can modify fonts
[09:51] <IcemanV9> gabriel: it would be better to install ubuntu, then add programs that are in christian edition
[09:51] <segfault> !ask > kyaneos
[09:51] <KEA0463> ko
[09:51] <KEA0463> ok
[09:51] <KEA0463> i know
[09:51] <TheGateKeeper> KEA0463: http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#intro
[09:51] <KEA0463> i seem cant find the font i like
[09:51] <mvargas> habla hispana?
[09:51] <Hattori> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- who can read here please and tell me how to fix?
[09:51] <KEA0463> i am picky
[09:51] <synjet> !es>mvargas
[09:51] <KEA0463> with browsers
[09:51] <gabriel> ok, but ...  no idea whit that error?                "network:///" is not a valid location.
[09:51] <FunnyLookinHat> gabriel, all yo uhave to do is install regular ubuntu and then install what is called "gnomesword"
[09:52] <carmanOS> there a new version of opera, but it won install because it needs a qt lib that not in the repos, is the ubuntu opera patched and safe to use?
[09:52] <kyaneos> i can launch nautilus
[09:52] <mvargas> synjet
[09:52] <mvargas> hello
[09:52] <TheGateKeeper> can't do much about picky lol
[09:52] <KEA0463> yeah i am hard to please
[09:52] <Dr_willis> carmanOS,  ya could go to the opera page and download the staticaly compiled one..
[09:52] <kyaneos> (nautilus:8527): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:52] <KEA0463> i am a windows brat
[09:52] <kyaneos> what can i do?
[09:52] <carmanOS> Dr_willis: great, thanks
[09:52] <gabriel> but christian edition have parental control and all that stuff included
[09:53] <TheGateKeeper> we all have our crosses to bare
[09:53] <Hattori> hello? do you see me? or just ignoring?
[09:53] <synjet> hi mvargas
[09:53] <gabriel> protection for the kids
[09:53] <foo> Hattori: We're probably busy.
[09:53] <mirak> does dapper have the lastest nvidia drivers ?
[09:53] <Hattori> i c
[09:53] <IcemanV9> gabriel: it's easy to install dansguardian
[09:53] <czer323> mirak> no, you have to build them.
[09:53] <Hattori> that topic could be a challenge for you, give it a try ;}
[09:53] <KEA0463> i like anjuta IED
[09:53] <mirak> czer323: why ?
[09:53] <KEA0463> good for compiling
[09:54] <czer323> mirak> because dapper doesn't have them yet....  What do you want me to say.
[09:54] <gabriel> ok, thanks folks
[09:54] <kyaneos> (nautilus:8195): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:54] <rem__> .
[09:54] <willys_fueguino> hello.....
[09:54] <TheGateKeeper> KEA0463: if you are compiling on ubuntu you probable want to install build-essential
[09:54] <kyaneos> i can try nautilus
[09:54] <kyaneos> please
[09:54] <KEA0463> i did
[09:55] <IcemanV9> gabriel: like "sudo aptitude install dansguardian" then you have the parental control
[09:55] <kyaneos> i can not try nautilus
[09:55] <mirak> czer323: is it yet, or never,
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> KEA0463: :-)
[09:55] <Xi_> so this is what I'm doing, I go, 'sudo bash' 'passwrd', 'mount /boot' and I get an error telling me I can't find\ it
[09:55] <KEA0463> i have spent last 72 hours getting kinks out
[09:55] <gabriel> ok, thank u IcemanV9
[09:55] <knixtech> what would happen if I do this? iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[09:55] <KEA0463> its starting to work good now
[09:55] <czer323> mirak> probaby yet.  It's still beta.
[09:55] <willys_fueguino> I need to know if its possible to install a game from a live dvd distro to ubuntu and if it wil work later when running ubuntu...
[09:55] <kitche> Xi_: whya re you doing sudo bash?
[09:55] <gabriel> c u around...
[09:55] <czer323> mirak> the nvidia drivers are still beta from what i understood.
[09:56] <ithiel> hmm
[09:56] <Gizmo_the_Great1> how do I access a shared folder on Box1 from my Laptop, Box2?
[09:56] <Stormx2> Xi_: mount /boot? Usually you'd do something like mount /dev/hda5 /boot
[09:56] <KEA0463> does ubuntu have the biggest support base
[09:56] <kitche> !samba > Gizmo_the_Great1
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> Gizmo_the_Great1: if both are linux nfs
[09:56] <Stormx2> KEA0463: out of what?
[09:56] <KEA0463> for a linux distro
[09:56] <ithiel> dyn-afk: are you a BSD supporter?
[09:57] <Stormx2> KEA0463: I suppose so.
[09:57] <Stormx2> KEA0463: For desktop linux, yes.
[09:57] <KEA0463> k
[09:57] <kitche> KEA0463: no Gentoo has the biggest support but then again they hate rest of the distros
[09:57] <KEA0463> thats good
[09:57] <Gizmo_the_Great1> TheGateKeeper: Both Ubuntu LTS
[09:57] <dyn-afk> ithiel: yup
[09:57] <Stormx2> gentoo has a support base?
[09:57] <dyn-afk> why?
[09:57] <Stormx2> do you mean the elite club? XD
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> Gizmo_the_Great1: use nfs then
[09:57] <ithiel> dyn-afk: FreeBSD? (That would be my preference if I used BSD)
[09:57] <Xi_> all I know is that procedure on the link doesn't work, neither does taking the procedure from step 4
[09:57] <nexeus> I new to linux so far i found ubuntu easiest to understand
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs
[09:57] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:57] <ithiel> dyn-afk: curiousity.
[09:57] <KEA0463> oh so ubuntu us best for new linux users
[09:57] <nexeus> currently trying suse
[09:57] <Gizmo_the_Great1> TheGateKeeper: use nfs? how? where do I find that?
[09:58] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs > Gizmo_the_Great1
[09:58] <KEA0463> but gentoo is for advanced users
[09:58] <kitche> NFS is very insecure just so you know Gizmo_the_Great1
[09:58] <dyn-afk> FreeBSD is nice
[09:58] <Stormx2> KEA0463: Not necesserily. Some linux distros are meant for people switching from windows with little skill with computers.
[09:58] <dyn-afk> NetBSD is a bit more of a "challenge"
[09:58] <TheGateKeeper> Gizmo_the_Great1: read the ubotu pm or above ^^^
[09:58] <Gizmo_the_Great1> kitche: it's only in the home and the wireless is WPA encrypted anyway
[09:58] <dyn-afk> you need to do a lot of manual configuring
[09:58] <califfo> hi all, I'm compiling mplayerplug-in and while doing ./configure I get this error: checking for MOZPLUG... configure: WARNING: firefox-plugin not found ; can anyone help me, please?
[09:58] <Stormx2> KEA0463: ubuntu is in the middle. It can be very easy to use but you can do all sorts of complex stuff with it
[09:58] <dyn-afk> but I'd rather install ubuntu on my notebook
[09:59] <TheGateKeeper> right catch you latter folks
[09:59] <dyn-afk> and freebsd or debian on my servers
[09:59] <KEA0463> is gentoo hard to learn
[09:59] <remo287> hello room
[09:59] <KEA0463> or just different concepts
[09:59] <TheGateKeeper> KEA0463: Gizmo_the_Great1 good luck :-)
[09:59] <dyn-afk> I'd rather install bsd on a sun sparc machine instead of linux
[09:59] <ciango> hi
[09:59] <Asturio> Does anybody knows about udev and hal and dbus in Dapper?   The Links in /dev/?
[09:59] <Stormx2> KEA0463: Put it this way, you want have used linux for a little while before you try gentoo. Its an awful lot of compiling and customization
[09:59] <mabus> So can somebody tell me how to set my TERM to xterm-256color when calling elinks, preferably as an alias in my profile?
[09:59] <ithiel> dyn-afk: heh, netbsd is for when you have that toaster that MUST run Unix.
[09:59] <dyn-afk> but I think I'm going to test how ubuntu is doing on a sun blade 100 (sparc64 architecture)
[09:59] <Asturio> Hello There---
[09:59] <Stormx2> hi remo287
[09:59] <kitche> KEA0463: gentoo is harder then most distros but then again LFS is harder
[09:59] <ciango> i have a little problem with my alsa ... (i think that is)
[09:59] <remo287> hi stormx
[10:00] <ithiel> dyn-afk: for a server, I like debian/gentoo (for certain circumstances)/FreeBSD
[10:00] <dyn-afk> openbsd is btw the OS to go for a sun sparcstation 4 or 5
[10:00] <ciango> when i run mplayer, console:
[10:00] <KEA0463> how will i know when i am ready for gentoo
[10:00] <ciango> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:00] <kitche> !offtopic
[10:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:00] <KEA0463> 3 years?
[10:00] <remo287> storm r u ther
[10:01] <Stormx2> ciango: Did you compile it?
[10:01] <ChaosFan> KEA0463: you're never "ready" for gentoo. try it or leave it.
[10:01] <Hattori> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272032 <--- anybody has any idea how to fix that??
[10:01] <Stormx2> remo287: Yeah I am, whats the problem?
[10:01] <ithiel> ChaosFan: both? lol :P
[10:01] <ciango> no i download mplayer deb
[10:01] <ciango> form synaptic
[10:01] <KEA0463> ok i left it cause i couldnt get a internet connection
[10:01] <czer323> KEA0463, Gentoo is just a huge learning experience.  If you want to learn a ton of useless computer stuff, then try gentoo. ;)
[10:01] <KEA0463> with ubuntu i could
[10:01] <Xi_> hmmm
[10:01] <remo287> myne is not a problem storm
[10:01] <ciango> before this error mplayer is good
[10:02] <remo287> does linux have viruses
[10:02] <Gizmo_the_Great1> how do I tell if Samba is installed?
[10:02] <ithiel> a ton of useless computer stuff...gentoo...yeah...sounds about right. You also forgot that it qualifies you as a master of the art of "Computer Ricing"
[10:02] <Stormx2> remo287: Technically, no.
[10:02] <KEA0463> so gentoo is for people who like to work alot
[10:02] <remo287> storms u might think tht myne is a silly question
[10:02] <ciango> who is ready to help me?
[10:02] <KEA0463> and get headaches
[10:02] <Stormx2> remo287: Theres proof-of-concepts around, but people don't write linux viruses really....
[10:02] <califfo> hi all, I'm compiling mplayerplug-in and while doing ./configure I get this error: checking for MOZPLUG... configure: WARNING: firefox-plugin not found ; can anyone help me, please?
 how do I tell if Samba is installed? << start synaptic and search for it, it'll tell you if it's installed or not :)
[10:02] <remo287> why storm
[10:02] <IcemanV9> remo287: <knock on wood> so far no viruses for linux
[10:02] <SportChick> in 18
[10:02] <Chozabu> hey yall, ive got a prob i really cant fix - if anyone could help it would be amazing!
[10:03] <czer323> KEA0463, don't get me wrong.  it's an excellent distro.  It's just had  a track record of being extremely hard to install.   because you have to KNOW everything, in order to tell it to install.
[10:03] <ajax4_> !edgy
[10:03] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:03] <Stormx2> remo287: Because sensible linux users don't run as root, and windows users do.
[10:03] <ajax4_> !schedule
 does linux have viruses << not at the moment
[10:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:03] <remo287> yaa but viruses r just programs arent they
[10:03] <ithiel> why write virii/worms for Linux? it's pointless. it is like making a bomb that only hurts african pygmies.
[10:03] <Chozabu> ive been at uni for a lil over a week - windows works fine on the network, but ubuntu does not get an IP
[10:03] <ithiel> who happen to know how to hide from radiation.
[10:03] <KEA0463> yeah i onlu used the gentoo live-cd
[10:03] <dyn-afk> most linux virusses are very simple, they are just scripts you have to allow to run
[10:03] <ithiel> dyn-afk: *cough* typically under root.
[10:03] <dyn-afk> and they can only affect the user environment of the user that is running them
[10:03] <KEA0463> linux users write viruses for windows?
[10:04] <Stormx2> remo287: Yes, but they need privilages to do any harm. And plus, virus writers attack the easiest and by far the biggest target - windows users
[10:04] <willys_fueguino> I need to know if its possible to install a game from a live dvd distro to ubuntu and if it wil work later when running ubuntu...
[10:04] <willys_fueguino> I need to know if its possible to install a game from a live dvd distro to ubuntu and if it wil work later when running ubuntu...
[10:04] <Chozabu> if i try running 'sudo dhclient' after a few attempts it gets 'No DHCPOFFERS received.'
[10:04] <Juhaz> Stormx2, sensible windows users don't run as root either. there just aren't many of those
[10:04] <remo287> yaa storm i read tht article which is on the simmilar basis
[10:04] <dyn-afk> KEA0463: windows is more like a virus >:P
[10:04] <ithiel> dyn-afk: but that would lead to the reasoning of why Ubuntu doesn't really allow root.
[10:04] <Stormx2> Juhaz: Exactly.
[10:04] <Xi_> k so I'm in menu.lst, now what should I do?
[10:04] <Stormx2> willys_fueguino: Why do that?
[10:04] <ithiel> Juhaz: Windows has root? Color me surprised :)
[10:04] <dyn-afk> ithiel no that's not really the reason
[10:04] <kmaynard> willys_fueguino, what game? is it in the dapper repositories?
[10:04] <KEA0463> i gotta install wine
[10:04] <czer323> Juhaz> all windows is ran as "root"  Can you delete soemthing from the system32 file? yes.
[10:04] <ithiel> dyn-afk: that and shootus selfus in the footus.
[10:04] <Stormx2> ithiel: Well, it has admin.
[10:04] <KEA0463> i havnt been able to figure out how to use wine yet
[10:05] <ithiel> Administrator. yay.
[10:05] <KEA0463> to big of a learning curve
[10:05] <Stormx2> KEA0463: its a bit tricky...
[10:05] <dyn-afk> one should always run as a user and do only root stuff when necessary
[10:05] <smax> hi guys
[10:05] <nexeus> !wine
[10:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:05] <Juhaz> ithiel, no, but it has "administrator"
[10:05] <czer323> !sudo
[10:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:05] <ithiel> indee.d
[10:05] <AmukaNuk> Hello. I am trying to install Ubuntu on my computer. It's supposed to be a multiboot with Win XP. But when i enter grub after installation it won't run any of my partitions. What am I doing wrong?
[10:05] <ithiel> hmm.
[10:05] <kitche> KEA0463: to run wine you open up a terminal and do wine <program>
[10:05] <dyn-afk> if you use su that means you start an entire session as root
[10:05] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, yeap. But my internet conection is so slow that I had to get them on a dvd
[10:05] <smax> i installed build-essential and libglib2.0  and the make utility still says glib.h  does not exist
[10:05] <dyn-afk> it has a disadvantage and an advantage over using sudo though
[10:05] <Stormx2> KEA0463: Half the problems people have with wine is because they aren't calling it correctly...
[10:05] <remo287> thanks stormx2 for clarifying my doubt
[10:05] <kitche> AmukaNuk: your menu.lst is mostly setup wrong
[10:05] <kmaynard> willys_fueguino, what game?
[10:06] <dyn-afk> with sudo you can specify what can be run with root rights and such :)
[10:06] <remo287> so u say tht we can expect viruses in future
[10:06] <czer323> sudo -s will get you to root as well.
[10:06] <AmukaNuk> kitche: k, would you happen to know a good tutorial/faq for setting it up?
[10:06] <samot> anyone can give me a descent settings-file for beryl so that I won't have to find everything myself?
[10:06] <dyn-afk> but the problem with sudo: it uses the same password as the ordinary user account
[10:06] <kitche> !grub
[10:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <kitche> AmukaNuk: there you go
[10:06] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, enemy territory, torcs, vdrift, counter strike source etc,etc,etc.....
[10:06] <KEA0463> ok so i just alt-F2 type in wine
[10:06] <remo287> yes dyn-afk u r right i too have the same doubt
[10:06] <Stormx2> remo287: Theres an excellent article on it. I can't remember where it is though. Trust me though, people don't write viruses for linux. Its too difficult and it doens't make ANY sense to do so.
[10:06] <dyn-afk> if one hacks a useraccount with admin rights in UBuntu you can do the same things as root
[10:06] <KEA0463> then enter wine (program)
[10:07] <czer323> dyn-afk, That's a good thing for ubuntu.  Ubutnu DISABLE root account by default.
[10:07] <kmaynard> willys_fueguino, search the dvd for debs
[10:07] <Stormx2> dyn-afk: But getting the user account password is difficult.
[10:07] <czer323> dyn-afk, So, you'd have to go in and enable it BEFORE you start using su.
[10:07] <remo287> i mean both user and sudo can have same password
[10:07] <timruff> bonjour tous le monde
[10:07] <kitche> Stormx2: umm it's very easy to get a user account password
[10:07] <scheuri> czer323: is it disabled? or has it just a password which is not mentioned anywhere?
[10:07] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, I have a dvd with all that games, but they're in a bootable image...
[10:07] <scheuri> czer323: root cant just be disabled...
[10:07] <dyn-afk> root isn't really disabled
[10:07] <czer323> scheuri, disabled.
[10:07] <timruff> oup sorry
[10:07] <foo> Hm, ok, I installed gnome-cups-manager ... and I am trying to add the network printer, but I don't see the hp officejet driver. I installed hpoj ...restarted cups, and restarted the cups manager ... still don't see the drive. What do I need to install? (I'm on ubuntu server)
[10:07] <Stormx2> kitche: Go ahead.
[10:07] <czer323> !su
[10:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:07] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, its a live dvd distro
[10:07] <dyn-afk> root isn't used
[10:08] <SiliconViper> Yay for segmentation faults when loading Firefox!
[10:08] <dyn-afk> with sudo passwd you can set a password for root and use the root account again
[10:08] <root> dyn-afk: me?
[10:08] <willys_fueguino> sudo = super user do
[10:08] <knixtech> SiliconViper, horrrrray
[10:08] <dyn-afk> yeah you :P
[10:08] <remo287> stormx2 i have another doubt
[10:08] <root> dyn-afk: I am used
[10:08] <winterweaver> Hey Hey..... could anyone assist a linux newb, plz?? (with my Nvidia drivers
[10:08] <scheuri> czer323: root is installed and working...BUT...it has a selfgenerated password which is NOT told to you
[10:08] <dyn-afk> and abused mr root :P
[10:08] <SiliconViper> winterweaver, sure.
[10:08] <root> dyn-afk: nah
[10:08] <kmaynard> willys_fueguino, put the cd in the tray and start digging thru it
[10:08] <dyn-afk> yup scheuri
[10:08] <remo287> well how to enter irc chat and create a user name???
[10:08] <remo287> well now i m using it frm gaim
[10:08] <Stormx2> kitche: It isn't easy at all. Remember when they realised the pass was in the installation logs? That was fixed within an hour. They're not gonna sit around for 6 months with a gaping security hole are they, unless you've found one and not reported it.
[10:09] <kmaynard> search it for debs
[10:09] <winterweaver> SiliconViper, thx, as I understand, I have to install Nvidia-glx and Nvidia-xconfig... right?
[10:09] <Stormx2> remo287: Best install xchat
[10:09] <SiliconViper> winterweaver, yep!
[10:09] <Stormx2> remo287: But otherwise use /nick WOWISUCK
[10:09] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, if I install the games in that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??
[10:09] <czer323> scheuri, at least it's randomly generated then.  but all the same.  if someone goes to try to su root, they needt o have set the password first.  sudo -s is the same thing, with less effort.
[10:09] <knixtech> any one use smoothwall?
[10:09] <SiliconViper> winterweaver, then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and select the 'nvidia' driver, instead of the 'nv' one.
[10:09] <kitche> Stormx2: there is ways not part of any distro but the software that the systems are running or even the user
[10:09] <ithiel> ChatZilla, ftw.
[10:09] <scheuri> czer323: well...you said it is disabled...that is just not correct...:)
[10:10] <remo287> stormx2 i have already installed xchat
[10:10] <winterweaver> SiliconViper, but now here's the problem.... for some reason, if I install the one the one, the other one is uninstalled...
[10:10] <czer323> scheuri, understood and i'll remember that for future.
[10:10] <scheuri> czer323: thanks...:)
[10:10] <remo287> i m unable to configure it
[10:10] <Stormx2> remo287: Go onto it then. In the list, select "ubuntu servers"
[10:10] <SiliconViper> winterweaver, you only need nvidia-glx
[10:11] <remo287> Looking up irc.freenode.net
[10:11] <remo287> * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (82.96.64.4) port 6667...
[10:11] <remo287> * Connected. Now logging in...
[10:11] <remo287> * *** Looking up your hostname...
[10:11] <remo287> * *** Checking ident
[10:11] <remo287> * *** Couldn't look up your hostname
[10:11] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??
[10:11] <Stormx2> kitche: Of course, security holes. But they get plugged as soon as their found, and unless you're hosting huge websites on a huge pipe, you're not vunerable to attack
[10:11] <remo287> hey storm it is wht it is saying
 scheuri, at least it's randomly generated then.  but all the same.  if someone goes to try to su root, they needt o have set the password first.  sudo -s is the same thing, with less effort. << there's also sudo -i, there are differences between them and it's best to use sudo -i
[10:11] <Stormx2> remo287: Don't paste
[10:11] <remo287> i think i need to register
[10:11] <Stormx2> remo287: Never paste more than one line.
[10:11] <winterweaver> SiliconViper, ok ... thanks... ill give it a bash
[10:11] <Stormx2> remo287; You need to log off gaim first, fool.
[10:11] <remo287> ok sorry for pasating it
[10:11] <Stormx2> remo287: :)
[10:11] <remo287> ok sorry
[10:11] <colin_> is this the channel for noobs?
[10:18] <Stormx2> remo287: I was being sarcastic, don't worry.
[10:18] <colin_> hah cause i have a pretty simple question
[10:18] <knixtech> colin_, shhot
[10:18] <knixtech> shoot
[10:18] <remo287> hey by the way i m not logged in actually
[10:18] <Stormx2> colin_: Go ahead, they're easier to answer =)
[10:18] <SiliconViper> winterweaver, good luck!
[10:18] <colin_> how do i create a shortcut on the ubuntu desktop?
[10:18] <Dr_willis> colin_,  you should fit right in. :P
[10:18] <knixtech> ha
[10:18] <colin_> to connect samba to a windows network
[10:18] <knixtech> Stormx2, all yours
[10:18] <remo287> when i login to irc using gaim it actually says username not registered
[10:18] <Stormx2> colin_: Right click > create shortcut
[10:18] <Stormx2> colin_; ACK!
[10:18] <colin_> hah
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, r u there??
[10:18] <knixtech> ;
[10:18] <Stormx2> colin_: create launcher
[10:18] <colin_> im sure that's not there
[10:18] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[10:18] <colin_> yeah it's launcher
[10:18] <remo287> stormx2 r u listening
[10:18] <Stormx2> colin_: Sorry, I'm in windows mode.
[10:18] <knixtech> Colin_ drag and drop?>
[10:18] <Stormx2> remo287: Freenode doesn't require registration
[10:18] <colin_> whats the line again for samba network?
[10:18] <colin_> it's smp:/ or something
[10:18] <colin_> smb*
[10:18] <knixtech> ya
[10:18] <Stormx2> nautilus smb:/// I'd assume.
[10:18] <colin_> ok
[10:18] <scheuri> colin_: its smb://SERVER
[10:18] <colin_> i had another question
[10:18] <Arcad3> who can gimme his ssh HOST:USERNAME:PASSWORD to his Ubuntu i will help him with anithing
[10:18] <colin_> oh yeah
[10:18] <ramkishore_> stormx2 then why does it say tht looking for host name and not found
[10:18] <colin_> i keep hearing about optimizing
[10:18] <scheuri> Arcad3: nice try
[10:18] <Arcad3> PM me:D
[10:18] <knixtech> Anyone know how to redirect traffic from 80 to 8080?
[10:18] <Virogenesis> how do I disable promiscuous mode ??!?!?! and what the hell does that mode do?
[10:18] <Stormx2> ramkishore_: I don't know, I guess it means he's still logged into irc from GAIM
[10:18] <THX-1138> Hi apokyphos
[10:18] <colin_> first is that something you need to do on a ppc mac
[10:18] <kstor> has anyone set up aptana on ubuntu successfully?
[10:18] <scheuri> Virogenesis: this mode is not enabled by default unless you started a too/application with root-priviliges that does that mode
[10:18] <colin_> and second is that the reason my dvds play choppy or is it because i have a 500mhz processor?/
[10:18] <ramkishore_> yaa i m still logged frm gaim iand i m able to talk using another id
[10:18] <Lunar_Lamp> how can i find out what kind of ram i have installed (e.g. voltage speeds etc)?
[10:18] <knixtech> Who here wants to get a ubuntu tattoo?
[10:18] <knixtech> i do i do
[10:18] <Stormx2> knixtech: iptables I guess, but not sure how, no. You could do it in your router settings...
[10:18] <Virogenesis> scheuri: that mode got enabled when I added the device in the BRIDGE...
[10:18] <scheuri> Virogenesis: that mode makes your network card listening to ALL traffic which comes to that card...
[10:18] <knixtech> Stormx2, ty, i am trying to do it on smoothwall thou
[10:18] <Stormx2> knixtech: Thats a firewall? OK, Hold on./
[10:18] <scheuri> Virogenesis: bridge? you are using your ubuntu as router?
[10:18] <Virogenesis> scheuri: hm, so that has nothing to do with people not seeing each other inside the bridge, and yes I am using it as a router
[10:18] <knixtech> Stormx2, ya, noone in the irc for it is there
[10:18] <THX-1138> Lunar_Lamp - lshw
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??
[10:18] <Stormx2> knixtech: Haha. I'll install it, just give me a min...
[10:18] <knixtech> kk
[10:18] <ramkishore_> hey some one say ithonk there exists a shot cut for not typing names wht is it?
[10:18] <scheuri> Virogenesis: promiscoues means that your card is listening to all traffic, instead of listening to traffic adressed to the card only and rejecting the rest
[10:18] <Stormx2> ramkishore_: tab.
[10:18] <apokryphos> Lunar_Lamp: perhaps hwinfo
[10:18] <knixtech> Stormx2, i have dansguardian running on it
[10:18] <ramkishore_> sorry fotr tht silly question
[10:18] <Arcad3> who wants remote help PM me with ssh HOST:PASSWORD:USER:D
[10:18] <THX-1138> Shortcut for nick comepletion is backspace
[10:18] <Stormx2> ramkishore_: please take time to type your sentences carefully...
[10:18] <Virogenesis> scheuri: could that be the cause people do not see each other from other parts of the bridge?
[10:18] <scheuri> Arcad3: by all due respect...but...that is not nice
[10:18] <meatface> Can anyone in here answer me a question about alsa?
[10:18] <Virogenesis> scheuri: I guess not...
[10:18] <scheuri> Virogenesis: I doubt it actually...but...I cant say for sure
[10:18] <Arcad3> i vill help
[10:18] <l_r> hello
[10:18] <ramkishore_> Stormx2, hey why did u say tht ??
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> can someone respond if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??
[10:18] <Stormx2> meatface: Don't ask to ask, just ask!
[10:18] <Virogenesis> scheuri: that actually sounds like something that should be enabled on the other network card :D other than the one that has it enabled
 scheuri: could that be the cause people do not see each other from other parts of the bridge? << no
[10:18] <detra> Hello ... error: dependency is not satisfiable:  ... What does that mean ? Anyone knows ?
[10:18] <we2by> ??
[10:18] <l_r> is there skype 1.3 available somewhere for ubuntu 6.06?
[10:18] <we2by> I've already identified myself
[10:18] <we2by> :\
[10:18] <dyn-afk> en bridge is meant to connect 2 networks together as one
[10:18] <ramkishore_> Stormx2, i mean why should i take time
[10:18] <Arcad3> use gaim for skype accounts
[10:18] <apokryphos> detra: you're installing a package that requires a package that you do not have
[10:18] <ifireball> what's up with security.ubutu.com? its slow as hell! are there any mirrors for it?
[10:18] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: should that be enabled on both cards in a bridge ?
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> can someone respond if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??
[10:18] <dyn-afk> so users in both networks can see eachother and access the same resources
[10:18] <Stormx2> ramkishore_: Because we like to keep a fairly high standard of niceness in this channel. If everyone constantly shortened words, misspelt or repeated words, we'd be trading warez in a week.
[10:18] <l_r> Arcad3, gaim does not support voice calls
[10:18] <kstor> has anyone setup aptana (www.aptana.com) on ubuntu successfully
[10:18] <meatface> It seems to me that it is freezing my gui. after the login promt my desktop will start to come up, then it just freezes. If I disable sound in the user privileges, everthing boots fine!
[10:18] <pitti> ifireball: the normal mirrors have them as well
[10:19] <detra> apokryphos, Well my problem is that it says libasound2 ... And I got libasound2 and libasound2-dev and libasound2-doc ....
[10:19] <Xi_> k grub still isn't working properly after changing my menu.lst file
[10:19] <ramkishore_> ok then mr.STormx2 thanks for your nice words
[10:19] <dyn-afk> promiscoues means that your card is listening to all traffic, instead of listening to traffic adressed to the card only and rejecting the rest << that means that the networkcard has to have the promiscous mode
[10:19] <Stormx2> ramkishore_: I don't know if that was sarcastic or not, but thank you!
[10:19] <apokryphos> detra: "it says"? What, exactly? Where? Can you pastebin the full output?
[10:19] <dyn-afk> Virogenesis: why would you want to use a bridge?
[10:19] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: how do I check if I have enabled it on my card?
[10:19] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: router, and a wireless router
[10:19] <steveire> Hey, Aptitude wants to uninstall firefox-dom-inspector, saying it's unused, but I am clearly using it. How do I protect it?
[10:20] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: connecting a local area network with a Wireless network
[10:20] <detra> apokryphos, No ... Cause its when I open an .deb file it says it ...
[10:20] <dyn-afk> you can check the specifications from the hardware manufacturer if the card support promiscous mode or not
[10:20] <apokryphos> detra: open or try to install it?
[10:20] <willys_fueguino> can someone respond if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??
[10:20] <ramkishore_> Stormx2, well i was surcastic in typing tht it is my usual practice to use shortcuts while i type any way thanks for the help u have offerd
[10:20] <willys_fueguino> can someone respond if I install the games directly from that live-dvd distro to my ubuntu, They'll run in ubuntu??
[10:20] <ifireball> pitti: afaik if that was true APT (update-mgr) would be d/ling from my "normal" repo right now, am I wrong here?
[10:20] <Stormx2> steveire: You can force its version in synaptic, but if apt wants to uninstall it, it has a good reason. Probably a firefox upgrade which includes the dom inspector, or something.
[10:20] <dyn-afk> try man ifconfig Virogenesis
[10:20] <zool2005> evening all
[10:20] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: sure...
[10:20] <dyn-afk> you can create a bridge with ifconfig
[10:21] <Stormx2> willys_fueguino: What games?
[10:21] <pitti> ifireball: archive mirrors lag behind a day or two
[10:21] <detra> apokryphos, When its open ... I'm not able to click install ... Cause it says that error ... I can only close it again ...
[10:21] <Stormx2> evening zool2005
[10:21] <apokryphos> willys_fueguino: what are you talking about? What games? Are you talking about installing from the Ubuntu LiveDVD to your installed Ubuntu?
[10:21] <synjet>        768'[
[10:21] <kothz> !768'[
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 768'[ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <pitti> ifireball: but if security is after archive in your apt sources, the mirror is prefered, yes
[10:21] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: how do you create a bridge with ifconfig !?
[10:21] <Xi_> can anyone give me a link or something so that I can figure out how to get windows back into my grub bootloader options, the ubuntu kernels as nice as they are aren't that useful
[10:21] <ramkishore_> hey how to play games on ubuntu
[10:21] <kothz> Well, now there's a surprise :)
[10:21] <apokryphos> detra: /msg ubotu deb
[10:21] <adioe3_> Kubuntu won't save the Master Channel after reboot, why? How to fix this?
[10:21] <habeeb> Hello, can you try this online radio link and see if you can listen to the program? So that I can find out, if my firefox has the problem or the radio. http://www.live24.gr/radio/generic/index.jsp?sID=84
[10:21] <detra> apokryphos, huh ?
[10:21] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Maybe its a bot... He asked the same thing 30 mins ago and never checked back for an answer.
[10:21] <zool2005> I've installed the server edition on an old laptop and need to install X from a CD, I've added the cd to repos using apt-cdrom but I can't install any packages with apt-get. Does anyone have any idea?
[10:21] <apokryphos> Xi_: how did ubuntu erase it, apparently?
[10:22] <dyn-afk> in freebsd you could create a bridge device called br0
[10:22] <apokryphos> Stormx2: I see; well, we'll kick if he asks again.
[10:22] <dyn-afk> I've seen it in debian too so it must be the same in ubuntu
[10:22] <fluvvell> willys_fueguino; which dvd ?
[10:22] <apokryphos> detra: type /msg ubotu deb    in here
[10:22] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: you use brctl to do that...
[10:22] <steveire> Stormx2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25756/
[10:22] <detra> apokryphos, That didn't help me a lot ...
[10:23] <ramkishore_> hello can any one say how to play games like nfs on ubuntu??
[10:23] <apokryphos> detra: it tells you how to install the package; no need to 'open' it
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> apokryphos, Stormx2, nop. I have another distro (I think its called aureox or something like that), and I want to install "X" amount of games from there to my ubuntu..
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> if I do that they'll work later when I come bak to ubuntu??
[10:23] <dyn-afk> ok, then try brctl Virogenesis :)
[10:23] <Xi_> didn't erase it, I think when grub updated it just overwrote my windows bootloader to ubuntu 26 even though I have an ubuntu 27 there already (or visa versa)
[10:23] <ifireball> pitti: that is the situation by default afaik, I suppose I should jusider just removing security.u.c from the sources.list alltogether though that
[10:23] <apokryphos> willys_fueguino: I have no idea about that distro. You'll perhaps just need to compile from source, in which case no, you can't use the live dvd
[10:23] <steveire> Stormx2: It is being used an it shouldn't be removed. I allowed it to remove the package before, and it took the tool away from me in ff
[10:23] <fluvvell> willys_fueguino; no.
[10:23] <apokryphos> willys_fueguino: you'll have to get the source from the net
[10:23] <dyn-afk> I know it can be done by default in freebsd with ifconfig
[10:23] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: I made the bridge but it doesnt work from peers from other parts of bridge
[10:24] <dyn-afk> just like creating a tunnel device
[10:24] <detra> apokryphos, It just tells me to double click it ...
[10:24] <habeeb> Hello, can you try this online radio link and see if you can listen to the program? So that I can find out, if my firefox has the problem or the radio. http://www.live24.gr/radio/generic/index.jsp?sID=84
[10:24] <dephTones> Is there a WINE pkg offered for the AMD x64 edition?
[10:24] <dyn-afk> are they firewalled Virogenesis ?
[10:24] <ifireball> pitti: has it been slow for everyone the last few weeks?
[10:24] <apokryphos> Xi_: well perhaps you can ask someone in here nicely for their grub conf file if they're running windows, and you can improvise
[10:24] <fluvvell> willys_fueguino; you're talking about running a live distro, then installing games while in that distro. Where is it going to install them?
[10:24] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: Im not sure...
[10:24] <pitti> ifireball: no idea, works quite fine for me
[10:24] <fluvvell> willys_fueguino; live distro's normally run in ram.
[10:24] <apokryphos> detra: in the terminal: sudo dpkg -i some.deb
[10:24] <dyn-afk> the bridge works from you to them  ?
[10:25] <Virogenesis> dynb] 
[10:25] <detra> apokryphos, I can do that and send you the outcome ... cause that doesn't work either ...
[10:25] <willys_fueguino> apokryphos, and if I copy the installers after booting in that distro tomy ubuntu partition??
[10:25] <steveire> hmm, stormx2 has left. Anyone else know about this apt stuff?
[10:25] <apokryphos> detra: please pastebin the output, then
[10:25] <willys_fueguino> I could install them then right??
[10:25] <detra> k
[10:25] <fluvvell> willys_fueguino; are they deb packages?
[10:25] <Xi_> would anyone who is dual booting windows and ubuntu be willing to lend me their grub.conf file
[10:25] <apokryphos> willys_fueguino: no, that will not work. Use the net.
[10:25] <dyn-afk> Virogenesis ?
[10:25] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: it works from Bridge to each other peers from bridge, but it doesnt work peer to peer from seperate parts of bridge
[10:26] <willys_fueguino> An example of game is the enemy territory and the americas army
[10:26] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: Thehre I typed it out :D heheh
[10:26] <apokryphos> Xi_: grub conf file is /boot/grub/menu.1st
[10:26] <dyn-afk> lol
[10:26] <dyn-afk> ok, that's weird
[10:26] <Gizmo_the_Great1> I struggling a bit. I've created a shared folder on a fat partition (called vfat). I've used smbpasswd from my Windows laptop and I can access the folders on the Ubunut box. But, I can't access it from my Ubunt laptop? Any ideas? Using samba.
[10:26] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: I hope u got what I meant to say :D
[10:26] <dyn-afk> I did :)
[10:26] <ramankishore> hello any one can say how to play games like nfs on ubuntu
[10:26] <Xi_> yeah, thats what I mean
[10:26] <detra> !paste
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:26] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: OH Wait, now its not working at all...
[10:27] <dyn-afk> :|
[10:27] <LazyAngel> is it just me, or is there other people that are having problems with the "software updates" (Not synaptics but the one that tells you when you need to update) Gnome crashes when i try to run it :(
[10:27] <meatface> Does anyone know how to access a flash drive that is formatted fat32. I can see it and read from it, but writing files to it does not happen.
[10:27] <detra> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25757/
[10:27] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: dead again... God damn it... ima try to restart the damn thing again, be here for a few more mins ima get back to u
[10:27] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: dead again... God damn it... ima try to restart the damn thing again, be here for a few more mins ima get back to u
[10:27] <willys_fueguino> fluvvell, apokryphos, then the only thing to do is use VMware to play while Im in my ubuntu right??
[10:28] <ladydoor> !language
[10:28] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:28] <elliotboney> who used bad language
[10:28] <LazyAngel> metaface: try cat /etc/mtab and see if it is mounted read only
[10:28] <fluvvell> willys_fueguino; well thats one way.  Is the game you're after available for debian?
[10:28] <willys_fueguino> fluvvell, I dont know yet... I didnt check
[10:29] <willys_fueguino> (I'll do that now)
[10:29] <Flamekebab> Can anyone advise me on PEAP and LEAP under Dapper?
[10:29] <willys_fueguino> brb
[10:29] <THX-1138> in a terminal what is the print command?
[10:29] <l_r> is there skype 1.3 available somewhere for ubuntu 6.06?
[10:29] <earthian> hello
[10:30] <Davkomp> Hello
[10:30] <meatface> Here is the output that I get after cat /etc/mtab  --->/dev/sda1 /media/STICK vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1002,gid=1002,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[10:30] <quiet> .
[10:30] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: ok now its pinging from Bridge server to each peers
[10:30] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: lemme check peer to peer
[10:30] <THX-1138> man <terminalprint> file?
[10:30] <habeeb> Hello, can you try this online radio link and see if you can listen to the program? So that I can find out, if my firefox has the problem or the radio. http://www.live24.gr/radio/generic/index.jsp?sID=84
[10:30] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: no, still doesnt work...
[10:30] <dyn-afk> Virogenesis you might want to take a look at the following site: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Main_Page and more particular at the following article: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge
[10:31] <earthian> i have a quite hard question: WHY top shows ~950 mb used RAM and gnome-system-monitor shows only like 600mb used. (some xfce4 plugins show the same as gnome)?????
[10:31] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: Funny thing is that everytime I do ANYtHING to a eth1 like change ip or up or down I get a message saying promiscuous mode enabled
[10:31] <zool2005> can I install a WM from CD using apt-get?
[10:31] <Gizmo_the_Great1> I've created a shared folder on a fat partition (called vfat) on my Ubuntu box. I can access it fine from my Windows laptop.  But not from my other laptop thats running Ubuntu. I can navigate to it, but then it says its inaccessible and 'perhaps it's been deleted' but it hasn't. ????
[10:31] <earthian> and the buffers = 4 MB
[10:31] <elliotboney> will the grub boot option of "ide=nodma" really slow down my laptop
[10:31] <Davkomp> exit
[10:31] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: that doesn't happen when I do anything to the ath0 card
[10:32] <dyn-afk> did you give any ip-address to the bridge?
[10:32] <Flamekebab> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270369 - anyone got anything they could add to that? I'm trying to access my university's wireless, which requires PEAP or LEAP
[10:32] <detra> apokryphos, Can you figure it out ?
[10:32] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: yes
[10:33] <dabugas> hi
[10:33] <apokryphos> detra: where are you getting that gnash package from?
[10:33] <dyn-afk> Virogenesis check the second link I gave you, it says something about getting an ip-address via a dhcp server on a *dsl connection
[10:33] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: thanx, ill give it a look :)
[10:33] <detra> apokryphos, I dl it from ftp.sunsite.dk
[10:33] <dyn-afk> don't give any ip-addresses to a bridge though
[10:33] <dabugas> i can't seem to enable dma. various forums mentioned that it's kernel related, but i haven't updated my kernel. any other ideas?
[10:33] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: really?
[10:33] <vieirar> What package is needed to get libnpsoplugin.so
[10:33] <dyn-afk> you're connecting 2 interfaces so there's no need for IP-addresses
[10:33] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: Why not ?
[10:34] <public_void> http://www.live24.gr/radio/generic/index.jsp?sID=84 doesn't seem to be working for me either
[10:34] <dyn-afk> normally it's a physical connection
[10:34] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: that pc is going to have to be a router too...
[10:34] <apokryphos> detra: you have some depends that just aren't satisfied
[10:34] <dyn-afk> in this case it's done in the software
[10:34] <THX-1138> dabugas - what have you tried so far?
[10:34] <detra> apokryphos, And that means ?
[10:34] <dyn-afk> in that case Virogenesis turn it into a router and just forget the entire bridge idea :P
[10:34] <zool2005> i need to install a light wm from a cd on a laptop without an internet connection. Is it possible?
[10:34] <apokryphos> detra: you require a package that you do not have
[10:34] <xdx> hi
[10:34] <apokryphos> !depends
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about depends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <detra> !depends
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about depends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <apokryphos> nevermind that
[10:35] <dyn-afk> use eth0 (which is prolly the wired connection) for the *dsl/cable connection
[10:35] <dabugas> THX-1138, nothing. i just booted my pc and found myself dma-less. i can only suspect a new dvd drive (but hdparm doesn't work on my harddisk either).
[10:35] <detra> apokryphos, k ... But can you figure out which ?
[10:35] <apokryphos> detra: the ones it says
[10:35] <dyn-afk> and use a router so that everything on eth1 (which prolly is wifi) can use the internet
[10:35] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: id love to
[10:35] <THX-1138> dabugus - hdparm isn't loaded??
[10:35] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: but, I don't have money for another pc :)
[10:35] <detra> apokryphos, aight I will try
[10:35] <detra> apokryphos, thx...
[10:36] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: ath0 is wifi eth1 is lan and eth0 is internet
[10:36] <THX-1138> dabugas - syntax error in the file??
[10:36] <dyn-afk> ok
[10:36] <vieirar> What package is needed to get libnpsoplugin.so?
[10:36] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: thanx for help though
[10:36] <dabugas> THX-1138, nope. manually typing sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda fails with: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[10:36] <dyn-afk> eth0 should be the input for the router and ath0 and eth1 are behind the router
[10:36] <dyn-afk> use something like NAT
[10:37] <xdx> xlibs (> 4.1.0)
[10:37] <xdx> how can i update xlibs ?!
[10:37] <dyn-afk> I've got to go right now, bbl
[10:37] <dyn-afk> good luck to you Virogenesis :)
[10:37] <THX-1138> dabugas - check perms. maybe cp your bak over the edited file?
[10:37] <Virogenesis> dyn-afk: thank you ! :) and have fun
[10:38] <dabugas> THX-1138, if you mean hdparm.conf, that can't be it... because i _should_ be able to do it manually regardless of the file. or am i mistaken?
[10:39] <THX-1138> dabugas - If there is a conflict which takes precedence?
[10:39] <dabugas> THX-1138, like? how can i find out?
[10:39] <THX-1138> dabugas - I wonder if there is only one response
[10:39] <Gizmo_the_Great1> I've created a shared folder on a fat partition (called vfat) on my Ubuntu box. I can access it fine from my Windows laptop.  But not from my other laptop thats running Ubuntu. I can navigate to it, but then it says its inaccessible and 'perhaps it's been deleted' but it hasn't. ????
[10:40] <THX-1138> dabugas - use the backup file copy over the original.
[10:40] <david83> join #ubuntu
[10:41] <Zaggynl> I can't wait until the new nvidia driver goes stable
[10:41] <detra> Anybody know which package libgnash0 is in ?
[10:41] <david83> how to install software without *.deb File that doesn't crash the whole system?
[10:42] <dyn-afk> ok, so no bbl :P
[10:42] <Knifa> while installing ubuntu the install seems to stop at "Retrieving file 814 of 814"
[10:42] <Knifa> does it usually take a while?
[10:42] <Dr_willis> hmm.. the man page for 'dircolors' says the full docs are in 'info dircolors' -- but Info dircolors - just shows the man page.. :) in info format...
[10:43] <Knifa> helloo? D:
[10:43] <david83> hi
[10:44] <setooo> about ubuntu-desktop, I can't install it
[10:45] <david83> somebody who has the same problem i do? before firefox update i could watch videos on youtube.com after it says something about old flash or shockwave player but after i install the package i won't work :( and firefox is crashing much more then before :(
[10:45] <ladydoor> setooo: any particular reason (tell the whole channel)
[10:46] <david83> ladydoor: because he isn't allowed to make a private chat :)
[10:46] <jazzrocker> is there any way to flush swap space?
[10:46] <ladydoor> david83: i meant as opposed to calling me out, like this.
[10:47] <jazzrocker> vmware-server eats ram and swap for lunch
[10:47] <david83> ladydoor: i see
[10:47] <jazzrocker> when i quit, the swap stays there... does that actually matter? or does it only impact performance when it's being used?
[10:48] <Niluje_> hello
[10:48] <david83> swap partition get overwriten doesn't it everytime it is used again after a reboot
[10:48] <david83> hi Niluje_
[10:49] <Ben311> Qustion about Linux
[10:49] <Niluje_> Can I have help with parition ?
[10:49] <detra> Anybody know which package libgnash0 is in ?
[10:49] <Niluje_> I can't use XFS partition to mount / or /home.
[10:49] <Ben311> so I need to have a program called arudius recognize either the ath0 or eth0
[10:49] <Ben311> but I don't know the command in the terminal
[10:49] <Ben311> any hel
[10:49] <Ben311> help*
[10:51] <Niluje_> Ben311:  look at vi /etc/network/interfaces
[10:51] <ifireball> Ben311: why do you need that program?
[10:51] <mdke> how can I download a folder from the internet?
[10:51] <jdrake> I have a belkin wireless G pcmcia card (F5D7010 ver 3000tt) and I have tried using ndiswrapper to get it to work, but it always seems to either crash the driver (means I have to reboot to try again) or nothing happens. Any ideas of what I can do? (I have tried most material I have found on area)
[10:52] <Ben311> ifireball: showing it to the computer tech here at my college
[10:52] <sj> mdke: wget -r URL
[10:52] <mdke> sj: I tried "wget -r url" but it didn't work
[10:52] <Ben311> but I need it to recognize the wireless card or the lan line in order to rock the system
[10:52] <dyn-afk> mdke you can try curl
[10:52] <sj> mdke: hmmn, what got dloaded?
[10:52] <mdke> sj: loads of weird stuff from higher level folders
[10:53] <mdke> dyn-afk: ok!
[10:53] <dyn-afk> mdke what kind of folder is it anyway?
[10:53] <sj> mdke: yes keep going inside, you would eventually have the files you want
[10:53] <Ben311> Niluje: well last time my friend did something like ath0 -h or something
[10:53] <dyn-afk> are you using ftp or something?
[10:53] <Ben311> I just need to know how to load it pwease
[10:53] <mdke> dyn-afk: no, http
[10:53] <dyn-afk> ok, then you want wget/curl :P
[10:53] <david83> detra: try http://search.rpmseek.com/search.html
[10:54] <mdke> dyn-afk: can you help me with the exact command?
[10:54] <mdke> curl on its own just returns the html of the apache folder listing
[10:54] <dyn-afk> man curl
[10:54] <ubuntu_> hello ubuntu-folks - any PPC users?
[10:54] <ifireball> Ben311: Ubunto doesn't recognise the wireless cared for you? are you sure that arudius is available for linux? maybe its just what the tech know you need for windows and you need something else for Linux? I.e. I've been a Linux user for years and I've never heared of it...
[10:54] <dyn-afk> I know what curl can do but I don'tknow the exact command
[10:55] <THX-1138> !ppc
[10:55] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[10:55] <sj> !curl>dyn-afk
[10:55] <THX-1138> !mac
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <dyn-afk> I need to do the same as you...look at the manual :)
[10:55] <yourself_myself> hello!
[10:55] <lisi> hi - I have an external hard drive I'd like to use with ubntu - Breezy, I think. It detects it when I plug it in but mounts it as read-only - how do I fix this to read-write?
[10:55] <dyn-afk> !curl
[10:55] <ubotu> curl: Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.15.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 164 kB, installed size 264 kB
[10:55] <mdke> dyn-afk: alright, I'll try
[10:55] <yourself_myself> i've just noticed that the locale on my system is en_AU.UTF-8
[10:55] <yourself_myself> how can i change that?
[10:55] <boink> gopher? heh ..
[10:55] <ubuntu_> I need to get my powerbook G4 to run at full cpu speed with the latest ubuntu livecd... Any ideas?
[10:55] <dyn-afk> I saw something like curl -o
[10:55] <Ben311> ifireball: this question is for a different distro
[10:56] <Flamekebab> *cough*
[10:56] <Gizmo_the_Great1> I've created a shared folder on a fat partition (called vfat) on my Ubuntu box. I can access it fine from my Windows laptop.  But not from my other laptop thats running Ubuntu. I can navigate to it, but then it says its inaccessible and 'perhaps it's been deleted' but it hasn't. ????
[10:56] <Flamekebab> LEAP and PEAP?
[10:56] <david83> ubuntu: apm-Management?
[10:57] <ifireball> Ben311: A. so why are you askling on #ubuntu? B. http://arudius.sourceforge.net/ seems its a whole distro not a single program
[10:57] <manmadha> hi!Is there any command to ping all the ip address at a time?
[10:57] <manmadha> to know dead ips
[10:58] <jsleeper> manmadha: you mean on a whole subnet?
[10:58] <sj> manmadha: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/ipiterator
[10:58] <manmadha> jsleeper, yaa
[10:58] <ubuntu_> david83 - there doesnt seemto be any apm daemon on this?
[10:58] <manmadha> in our lan
[10:58] <sj> manmadha: as jsleeper said, that is for a subnet
[10:58] <dyn-afk> manmadha try a tool like nmap
[10:58] <jsleeper> manmadha: i use nmap - nmap -sP 192.169.1.0/24 (using that subnet as example)
[10:58] <mdke> dyn-afk: no luck with curl as yet, the manual is a bit complex.
[10:59] <lisi> can anyone help me with an external hard drive?
[10:59] <manmadha> thank u all
[10:59] <kdean06> I have a question, and I do not ask this to flame, or to create one. But I hear people claim Ubuntu "sucks" for various reasons or another, and the main reason tends to be that Ubuntu "harms" Debian. What reasons do people give when they say this?
[10:59] <mdke> does anyone know how I can limit my download just to one specific folder on a server using wget?
[10:59] <david83> ubuntu_: amd or intel?
[10:59] <david83> ubuntu: maybe powernowd
[10:59] <Ben311> ifireball: because I was trying to get help?
[11:00] <sj> mdke: if you have URL as folder/folder2/folder3, it dloads the structure but only the files inside folder3 and subsequently
[11:00] <ubuntu_> david83 - erhhh, none of those... its a powerpc
[11:00] <david83> ubuntu: :) i forgot mom
[11:00] <ithiel> ubuntu_ lol.
[11:01] <david83> ubuntu: try this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92818
[11:01] <ifireball> Ben311: the way to install packages can be radically different between distros; suppose I've given you the way to do it on ubuntu, it might have been totally useless on your distro; you may be better off going to your distro's channel
[11:02] <david83> ithiel: default name in ubuntu life
[11:02] <zuus> lol
[11:02] <mdke> sj: unfortunately it tries to download some enormous files which are in a totally different folder to the one I specify
[11:02] <Flamekebab> LEAP and PEAP?
[11:02] <lisi> help! anyone?
[11:02] <sj> mdke: it shudnt.. it means you gave the wrong URL.. I guess
[11:02] <david83> lisi: ask your question
[11:02] <segfault> lisi, if u ask a question u have a better chance of getting help
[11:02] <Hattori> i was able to install wifi with ndiswrapper, but each time i reboot i have to do those commands: sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper; sudo ifconfig eth1 up. Any way to automate those passages at boot time?
[11:03] <mdke> sj: I'm confident of the url. :(
[11:03] <lisi>  hi - I have an external hard drive I'd like to use with ubntu - Breezy, I think. It detects it when I plug it in but mounts it as read-only - how do I fix this to read-write?
[11:03] <david83> lisi: man mount
[11:03] <segfault> lisi, what fs is on external hd?
[11:04] <ubuntu_> david83 - thanks, ill try and see if it Just Works(tm). After all - it IS a Mac... :-)
[11:04] <THX-1138> lisi - man fstab
[11:04] <segfault> lisi, but david83 has the best advice
[11:04] <lisi> I assume fat32 - could be ntfs though, how do I check?
[11:04] <THX-1138> david83 - we are linux gurus right? - lol
[11:04] <david83> no :) i am not
[11:04] <manmadha> david83, if we mount it then it is read only i think
[11:04] <david83> just lazy
[11:04] <segfault> lisi, ntfs write is experimental that could be why it gets mounted ro
[11:05] <dyn-afk> mdke try wget -r which downloads recursively, meaning it'll download everything in that directory (files, directories, etc.)
[11:05] <lisi> segfault: ahhhhhh, that would explain it
[11:05] <tengil> what do i need to be able to create an audio cd out of mp3 files with k3b. now it says unknown format when i add mp3s
[11:05] <THX-1138> lisi - sry - Don't you hate it when after repeating a quesiton there is no answer?
[11:05] <dyn-afk> you can specify the depth so it doesn't download all the other subdirs inside the directory
[11:05] <lisi> I assumed fat32 but ur probably right - anyway I can use this HD then?
[11:06] <yourself_myself> someone, please
[11:06] <yourself_myself> how can i change system locale
[11:06] <yourself_myself> ?
[11:06] <lisi> THX-1138 - yes, but I know peolple are only here to help and giving of their own time sio I appreciate it
[11:06] <SiliconViper> Huzzah, fixed segfaulting Firefox by rebuilding it with apt-build!
[11:06] <mdke> dyn-afk: do you know how to specify the depth? I tried, but didn't succeed
[11:06] <david83> lisi: hit mount in console it should show you all your partions including your external harddisk plus fat or ntfs
[11:07] <THX-1138> lisi - i found a new toy today "testdisk" darn nice
[11:07] <segfault> yourself_myself, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales (iirc)
[11:07] <Hattori> i was able to install wifi with ndiswrapper, but each time i reboot i have to do those commands: sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper; sudo ifconfig eth1 up. Any way to automate those passages at boot time?
[11:07] <yourself_myself> thanks!
[11:07] <lisi> I did try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk, which did seem to wrok but then popped up an error "You do not have the permissions to view contents" when it tried to open file browser
[11:08] <yourself_myself> segfault: this rebuilds the locales but doesn't let me choose my!
[11:08] <david83> THX: is it testdisk like hdparm?
[11:08] <yourself_myself> how do i tell the system, use this locale?
[11:08] <dyn-afk> the following command does recursive (-r) and uses a depthlevel of 2 (-l2) and saves the files in the directory "/tmp" (-P/tmp): wget -r -l2 -P/tmp ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/
[11:08] <dyn-afk> it's from the wget manual btw
[11:08] <lisi> david83 - yes, it is ntfs :(
[11:08] <segfault> Hattori, u can easily automate that by adding a script that does to ur runlevel, but, i think there is abetter check the forums im sure some else has a similar issue
[11:09] <david83> lisi: then reformat to vfat :)
[11:09] <mdke> dyn-afk: it's still downloading everything
[11:09] <dyn-afk> :||
[11:09] <osman> anyone know a good web design package for gnome on ubuntu?
[11:09] <dyn-afk> vi :)
[11:09] <Shadowpillar_> bluefish
[11:09] <sj> osman: nvu
[11:09] <Shadowpillar_> or nvu
[11:10] <lisi> david83 - it comes with software pre-installed so it's recognized by Winxp - I need this to share files between my Ubntu box and other computers (not networked)
[11:10] <dyn-afk> osman just use vi and type your code
[11:10] <osman> vi LOL
[11:10] <dyn-afk> or use something like nvu, bluefish, quanta plus, etc.
[11:10] <IcemanV9> osman: bluefish, nvu, vi, gedit
[11:10] <dyn-afk> :P
[11:10] <osman> does vi support html / php with syn on?
[11:10] <MrFeetio> !beryl
[11:10] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[11:10] <IcemanV9> dyn-afk beats me to it. :P
[11:10] <lisi> david83 - I assume reformatting would kill all this? or can I change filesystems without losing content?
[11:10] <THX-1138> david83 - I hope lisi is patient with us. - lol  http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[11:11] <david83> lisi: any free space? maybe repartitioning so that you have a fat32 partion too besides the ntfs?
 does vi support html / php with syn on? << fromwhat I've seen....yep
[11:11] <osman> it does just tested cheers
[11:11] <segfault> dyn-afk, osman yes it does
[11:11] <dyn-afk> * mdke asks for a tarred up copy of the folder << that would be a good solution :)
[11:11] <lisi> david83 - ok, that could work - didn't think to do that with an external drive but why  not? Can I do that with gparted?
[11:12] <Rockj> hey. I have troubles with playing midi files. what might be wrong?
[11:12] <osman> asnother question not really ubuntu specifically, i should know this as im a IT engineer, can i have apache and then have gnu using port 80???
[11:12] <david83> hmm ? THX? do you know the answer?
[11:12] <osman> asnother question not really ubuntu specifically, i should know this as im a IT engineer, can i have apache and then have gnump3d using port 80???
[11:12] <sureshot> hey l need to ask what is the syntax to using wget
[11:12] <dyn-afk> man wget sureshot :)
[11:12] <rem__> anyon knows how to imprt audio files in rhythmbox ... it tells me that .mp3 is not an audio file ... ?! the same file works fine from another location in rhythmbox ... ?!
[11:12] <BlueEagle> So I've got a thomson (alcatel) speedtouch ADSL modem. This modem gets an IP from my ISP and it also gives an IP to my box. Now is there anyone that know any way to automagically check what that external IP is from my box? The webinterface of the modem is less than helpful with this tbh.,
[11:13] <manmadha> If we format our system .....Is root file system mount again?
[11:13] <BlueEagle> Perhaps that's off-topic. :/
[11:13] <sureshot> thanks dyn-afk dhu i should have thought of that been a bad day thanks again
[11:13] <dyn-afk> osman you can't have 2 services using the same port, that would lead to problems
[11:13] <Mille> why can't i move my ubuntu partition?
[11:13] <david83> lisi: i don't have gparted but parted and sfdisk could work too
[11:14] <THX-1138> manmadha > !grub
[11:14] <THX-1138> manmadha: Did that help?
[11:14] <lisi> david83 - ok, cool - thanks for the help!
[11:14] <ladydoor> clear
[11:14] <rem__> I guess ill continue using xmms...rhythmbox is really to complicated to use .. it doesnt play half the radios xmms plays, and the only time i was able to enter mp3 files in it I had to trick the program...I just dont remember how ... :P
[11:14] <manmadha> 1m i will see...
[11:14] <Wodger> blue traceroute should show, or just go to some firewall testing sight.
[11:14] <manmadha> !grub
[11:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:14] <[H] 3b0R> hey im lookin for an nice system monitor applet thats easy to configure, shows cpu, ram, and hd monitor etc...
[11:14] <osman> dyn-afk, what i want to do is use gnump3d on port 80 to traverse the works firewall but i also wan to run apache, can i just redirect apache to another port or something, but make it transparent to the web user????
[11:14] <THX-1138> rem_ - "" xmms+stremtuner/streamripper.
[11:15] <rem__> yea
[11:15] <dyn-afk> BlueEagle there is a dutch site ( www.watismijnip.nl ) which can tell you what you're public ip-address is
[11:15] <david83> lisi: i never did that so i don't know if it works but is should be. please be careful
[11:15] <rem__> I just wanted to give rhythmbox a try...but I guess Ill give up..too much hasstle ..
[11:15] <dyn-afk> it's in dutch but the pubic ip-address is very easy to spot :P
[11:15] <dyn-afk> it's like size 32 or something
[11:15] <sj> rem: tried amarok?
[11:15] <david83> ladydoor: is clear working in your irc program?
[11:15] <BlueEagle> dyn-afk: I was hoping that I could keep this internally w/o relying on a 3rd party (or second server).
[11:16] <rem__> xmms, amarok, zinf..all fine ... I jmust wanted to give rhythmbox a try ...
[11:16] <ladydoor> david83: you mean the ability to use /clear to clear the screen? yes. why?
[11:16] <THX-1138> rem - amarok is very good. - still has the codecs issues. but, you have most installed already right?
[11:16] <Wodger> there maybe some app that can tell the external IP
[11:16] <david83> clear
[11:16] <rem__> yep
[11:16] <osman> dyn-afk, what do u recommend in my situation?
[11:16] <david83> ladydoor: so you just forgot the / right?
[11:17] <Hattori> how to set static ip on a wifi connection?
[11:17] <ladydoor> david83: when?
[11:17] <sj> david83: :D it is like asking which command to quit? ;)
[11:17] <THX-1138> rem_ - commandline mpg321 dump all the files in a single folder - not fancy - lol
[11:17] <Mille> anyone that know how to move the ubuntu partition?
[11:17] <ladydoor> david83: oh, way up there. actually, i typed it in the wrong GNU screen window.
[11:17] <SiliconViper> So apparently while running an xfs_repair, some lost porography was moved to lost+found.
[11:17] <ladydoor> david83: sorry.
[11:17] <SiliconViper> *pornography
[11:17] <david83> ladydoor: sorry i cleared my screen but 2min ago you said clear
[11:18] <Rockj> what I'am missing when ubuntu wont play .midi files?
[11:18] <dyn-afk> you can redirect the apache port but it's not very advisable to do so osman
[11:18] <dyn-afk> put the gnump3d on a different port
[11:18] <dyn-afk> don't mess with ports below 1024 :)
[11:18] <THX-1138> RockJ - timidity
[11:18] <david83> Mille: what do you mean by that?
[11:18] <osman> ok dyn-afk , then the firewall will block it , cant rember wich ports are open apart from 80
[11:18] <rylasasin> guys is there any way to save my linux? I tried installing xgl/beryl on dapper, I followed the forum posts exactly as it said, and now its broke it wont' run x is there any way to save it now or do I have to do a reinstall?
[11:19] <aboutb> anyone know of a newb friendly website instructing how to get wireless running on compaq broadcom internal?
[11:19] <Flamekebab> Can anyone please help me with LEAP and PEAP?
[11:19] <Mille> david83, i want to move the partition through gparted, from the live-cd. but i wont let me.
[11:19] <dyn-afk> BlueEagle the easiest way of getting the external ip-address would be to use something like www.watismijnip.nl :P
[11:19] <sj> rylasasin: do you have your /home on a separate drive?
[11:19] <rylasasin> no
[11:19] <david83> Mille: why not just a normal install of ubuntu?
[11:19] <Mille> david83, i've just deleted all partitions on the drive, the ubuntu partition is the only one left. i want to move it to the beginingn.
[11:19] <THX-1138> rylasasin: What happens if you edit out the references to composite in xorg.conf?
[11:19] <dyn-afk> osman you can open up ports in the firewall :)
[11:19] <sj> rylasasin: try getting an xorg file to replace the old one
[11:20] <Mille> david83, it's allready installed. and now i removed windows.
[11:20] <rylasasin> I cant get in ubuntu to do that
[11:20] <osman> nah im not involved with infrastucture
[11:20] <osman> :)
[11:20] <dyn-afk> you can try vpn or something like ssh
[11:20] <BlueEagle> dyn-afk: Not when you're monitoring for the line to come back up imo. :)
[11:20] <sj> rylasasin: search for your h/w config xorg sample file online, get the URL and dload it on the broken system.. might work
[11:20] <Rockj> THX-1138: so I wont be able to have playback in xmms for midi?
[11:21] <definity_> blap blap
[11:21] <Rockj> THX-1138: nor in games that uses midi either? like dunelegacy?
[11:21] <dyn-afk> rem__  did you install all of the gstreamer plugins ?
[11:21] <definity_> what a good console txt editor
[11:21] <dyn-afk> vi
[11:21] <definity_> thanks
[11:21] <THX-1138> Mille - I don't know of a an open source tool. possibly reformatfirst partition  then copy ubuntu to it? else paragon makes $ util
[11:21] <boink> joe
[11:21] <rylasasin> how do I do that?!?!?!
[11:21] <Rockj> THX-1138: sorry, just tested dunelegacy again, and midi works :D
[11:21] <Rockj> THX-1138:  in the game.. thanks :)
[11:21] <boink> joe is easier to use than vi
[11:21] <david83> Mille: i guess it can't be the first partition but why do you want it to be at the beginning the important thing is that you have space??
[11:22] <THX-1138> RockJ - hm - haven't really needed midi playback..
[11:22] <Mille> david83, cause i want to merge the space with the space after the ubuntu partition
[11:22] <hou5ton> at one point, on a previous Ubuntu install, I had the Win key set so that it opened Synaptic, but now I can't remember how I did that.  I'vfe checked the Preferences Menu options, etc, and can't find how I did that.  Any ideas?
[11:22] <rem__> fyi: the mp3 codec was recently removed because of patent issue...I guess after I Dist-upgraded Rhythmbox stopped playing mp3 ...I guess I'll look for the codecs .. :P
[11:22] <definity_> how the hell do i use vi?
 joe is easier to use than vi << it's better to be able to use vi since vi is on every unix/linux machine you can thiink of
[11:23] <dyn-afk> by default
[11:23] <Mille> THX-1138? was that to me? shouldn't gpart be able to move partitions? even the ubuntu partition, using it from the live-cd?
[11:23] <dyn-afk> joe isn't
[11:23] <david83> Mille:  __space__|UBUNTU|___space____ ?
[11:23] <Rockj> THX-1138: need it for good old classics which are being remade, like dunelegacy
[11:23] <Rockj> :)
[11:23] <dyn-afk> nano is also a commandline editor which is widely used
[11:23] <Mille> david83, correct. :-)
[11:23] <THX-1138> rem_ - Is ffmpeg what you want?
[11:23] <definity_> il try that one
[11:23] <dyn-afk> there are good reference cards on the internet for vi
[11:23] <dyn-afk> very usable :)
[11:24] <Mille> david83, so i want to move it to the beggning: |UBUNTU|___SPACE___ ;-)
[11:24] <osman> ok dyn-afk i just spotted the libapache-mod-mp3 , anyone used this before?
[11:24] <rylasasin> looks like I'll have to do a whole d**n reboot. man am i P**SED
[11:24] <THX-1138> Mille - You might format the first partition to ext3 than use the "dd" or "ddrescue" command to copy second partition to the first.
[11:24] <david83> Mille: What about make the first space a linux partition the move the files to the first partion the delete the old one and merge the space with the other space?
[11:24] <dyn-afk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi << great article
[11:24] <david83> ;)
[11:24] <sj> rylasasin: if you got the new xorg file, you can boot the Xserver only
[11:25] <Mille> david83, THX-1138, ok.. no other solution? gparted for some reason don't want to move it.
[11:25] <THX-1138> RockJ - This is a sucky answer but maybe use WINE?
[11:25] <david83> Mille - normal because the first partition of the harddisk is always difficult?
[11:26] <dyn-afk> definity_ check out the following links for vi: http://www.chem.brown.edu/instructions/vi.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi
[11:26] <THX-1138> mille - The DD command will do it. man dd or the linux documentation project .org   for info.
[11:26] <david83> THX: is it possible to move it?
[11:27] <Mille> david83, hm. why should it be difficult with the first partition? i mean, it's currently the ONLY partition on the drive
[11:27] <definity_> thanks, what directory dose it save txt to? on nano?
[11:27] <paul0> how i can check my actual color Depth?
[11:27] <definity_> i typed in a name and it didnt ask for a directory
[11:27] <THX-1138> mille - just plain 'ol cp with the right switches enabled to preserve symlinks. -still in all you might be faster to reinstall. if the commands are new to you.
[11:27] <sj> paul0: pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that file has the info
[11:27] <paul0> Second Life is asking for 32-bit color
[11:28] <paul0> 32bit color is the 24 bpp?
[11:28] <dyn-afk> nope
[11:28] <Mille> THX-1138, i think i can copy it with gparted. i'm resizing the ubuntu partition to fitt the beggining space on the drive. :-)
[11:28] <dyn-afk> but you can try paul0
[11:29] <THX-1138> pauk0 - secondlife with WINE or Cedega? - coolness (does happy dance)
[11:29] <david83> Mille: I guess the first partition of the hd had the index for the extend partions that followed as you deleted it an extend partition can't be at the start of the hd because it's nessary to have a primary partition
[11:29] <Crippy-Boy> Hmm i need someones opinion on something.
[11:29] <dyn-afk> mostly apps think they have 32 bit color but in reality it's just 24 bit
[11:29] <paul0> DefaultDepth    24
[11:29] <Crippy-Boy> Im creating a live cd for my own personal use, but i have to add/remove/edit specific things
[11:29] <paul0> but second life is still asking for 32 bit color
[11:29] <THX-1138> Mille - There is also "partimage" good i have been told. bad luck with it myself using knoppix.
[11:29] <definity_> where dose nano save the fiels you save init to?
[11:29] <definity_> files
[11:29] <Nookie> is microsoft running linux? nmap -O -vv -sS -T4 -A search.microsoft.com
[11:30] <jonah1980_2> hi i paid channel 4 a pound to watch an episode of lost which i thought would work with firefox mplayer plugin, only when i try to watch it firefox complains i need to install missing plugins, can anyone help me? please
[11:30] <Crippy-Boy> Im not sure if i should remaster the ubuntu live cd, Create it all on hd properly then use livecd scripts, Or start it from scratch
[11:30] <Mille> david83, couldn't be. cause at first i wanted to move the ubuntu partition forward and make the windows partition (that was in the beggning of the drive) bigger, but that wasn't possible either.
[11:30] <definity_> yeh download it from a torrent
[11:30] <dyn-afk> no Nookie Microsoft isn't running linux
[11:30] <Mille> THX-1138, ok. i'll check it out if i run into trubble with gparted. thanks alot. :-)
[11:30] <Nookie> dyn-afk: okej
[11:31] <dyn-afk> Microsoft is not hosting the search.microsoft.com site
[11:31] <Crippy-Boy> Would it matter if they were
[11:31] <dyn-afk> just like most part of microsoft.com
[11:31] <THX-1138> Mille - Welcome to the linux community.
[11:31] <definity_> jonah1980_2: download the torrent of it that way you dont waste anymoney
[11:31] <dyn-afk> they outsorced the hosting for their site to one of the biggest hosters in the world
[11:31] <definity_> how can i search for files in konsole
[11:31] <david83> Mille: Windows bigger?|Ubuntu <-- at the same time| space???
[11:31] <dyn-afk> and that hoster runs linux machines
[11:31] <Flamekebab> A little help with a supported wireless card and PEAP/LEAP?
[11:31] <Flamekebab> Someone?
[11:32] <dyn-afk> that's why most microsoft.com subsites return linux as the OS
[11:32] <THX-1138> dyn-afk - Did you see what OS that host is using?
[11:32] <THX-1138> dyn-afk - roflmao
[11:32] <david83> Mille: how do you write in red as you answer me?
[11:32] <Mille> david83, ehm. first i had a windows partition 5 gb, then a unbuntu 5 gb. then i wanted to move the ubuntu 2 gb forward and resize windows to 7 gb.
[11:32] <definity_> how can you search for a file in konsole?
[11:33] <lamego> find path -name "filename"
[11:33] <Mille> david83, i dont? it's your irc client.... xchat? ;-)
[11:33] <lamego> or locate "filename"
[11:33] <definity_> thanks
[11:33] <brk3> definity_: locate <filename>
[11:33] <david83> Mille: hm how does hi knows?
[11:33] <dyn-afk> btw, Microsoft's  hoster is Akamai, but that's also returned by that nmap command nookie gave
[11:34] <jonah1980_2> do i need a symlink or something?? why is it not recognising the plugin?
[11:34] <Mille> david83??
[11:34] <sj> jonah: do other videos work fine?
[11:34] <livingdaylight> having problems with the keyboard layout. Whether i set it to French or German i am left with the usual uk keyboard
[11:34] <david83> Mille: i mean how does the client know we are talking to each other? i could be any user in this room like THX that i am talking to
[11:34] <definity_> how do i update my locate DB?
[11:34] <jonah1980_2> sj, i thought they did but haven't tried any others - on a diff computer to one i usually use
[11:34] <definity_> it says it out of date
[11:35] <david83> definity: updatedb as root
[11:35] <definity_> thanks
[11:35] <sj> jonah: I meant other videos that require mplayer-ff plugin
[11:35] <david83> definity: you're welcome
[11:35] <Mille> david83, i'm writing your nickname. then it gets highlighted red.
[11:35] <rem__> FYI: This package is needed to play mp3 with rhythmbox in dapper: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[11:35] <david83> Mille, test
[11:36] <david83> :( not read
[11:36] <david83> red
[11:36] <Mille> david83 - red?
[11:36] <dyn-afk> THX-1138 try the nmap command nookie gave with msdn.microsoft.com instead of search.microsoft.com, it will return Windows as OS
[11:36] <rem__> tried about 100 diff gstreamer packages b4 finding the right one ... :P
[11:36] <THX-1138> david83 - IRC text colors http://www.new2chat.com/color.html
[11:36] <dyn-afk> Service Info: OS: Windows <<see
[11:36] <livingdaylight> having problems with the keyboard layout. Whether i set it to French or German i am left with the usual uk keyboard
[11:36] <david83> Mille is this messages red for you?
[11:36] <admin_> whats a good program to extract a rar archive?
[11:36] <dyn-afk> admin_ try rar
[11:36] <NemesisUK> unrar
[11:36] <dyn-afk> and unrar
[11:36] <Mille> david83, no, i've choosen my own colors in my client.
[11:36] <fabiomazzarino> I'm trying to use radeon drivers at my ATi Radeon 9200SE, but I can't make Direct Rendering work.
[11:37] <david83> THX-1138 :) i guess i am a hard newbie
[11:37] <jonah1980_2> sj, no doesn't seem to pick up on wmv files at all
[11:37] <jonah1980_2> can anyone help me get wmvs playing in firefox please?
[11:37] <fabiomazzarino> I've already modprobed radeon module, and via_agp.
[11:37] <boink> there is a mplayer-plugin for firefox
[11:38] <THX-1138> david83 - The dictionary definition of noob has my pic. need to work harder if you want my place.
[11:38] <jonah1980_2> mplayer plugin isn't showing up in synaptic!
[11:38] <sj> jonah: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28Mplayer.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:38] <NemesisUK> jonah1980_2, it's in multiverse I think
[11:39] <skySurfer> I just reformatted a partition using ext3. Now there is a lost+found directory. Does anybody know if this is needed or can it be savely deleted?
[11:39] <david83> THX i don't get it where on the page is it discribed?
[11:40] <jonah1980_2> mozilla-mplayer is installed, but firefox doesn't think so!!
[11:40] <david83> skySurfer: definitely needed
[11:40] <skySurfer> ok. What is it? something for ext3?
[11:40] <sj> jonah: restart FF
[11:40] <maccam94> ugh i've got weird sound issues. is there a way to get any sound-related stuff to completely reconfigure itself?
[11:41] <jonah1980_2> i've closed and restarted firefox and still no#
[11:41] <david83> skySurfer: in case of hang-up the file that where messed up will be put there so you can try to get the back and running
[11:41] <david83> them
[11:41] <skySurfer> david83: ok thanks for that. I'll have to do some reading then...
[11:41] <ruth> hi all
[11:42] <sj> hi ruth
[11:42] <Distro^Junkie> what's the latest version of amarok available ?
[11:42] <ruth> does edgy comes with gnome 2.16?
[11:42] <maccam94> lemme check
[11:42] <maccam94> yup
[11:42] <maccam94> ruth: yup i'm in it right now
[11:42] <THX-1138> !ubuntu+1 > ruth
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <david83> what is more work? linux from scratch or gentoo?
[11:43] <ruth> how to upgrade??
[11:43] <david83> !me
[11:43] <livingdaylight> having problems with the keyboard layout. Whether i set it to French or German i am left with the usual uk keyboard
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <david83> !time
[11:43] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[11:44] <jonah1980_2> could it be to do with me only having firefox 1.0.3?? how do i upgrade to latest version
[11:44] <maccam94> ruth: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[11:44] <maccam94> that'd get you edgy
[11:44] <Knifa> hurray!
[11:44] <Knifa> ubuntu working on my new motherboard
[11:44] <Knifa> finally
[11:44] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:44] <david83> that's nice
[11:45] <Mille> THX-1138, do you think i should make a seperate partition to mount /home on?
[11:45] <livingdaylight> does the keyboard layout not work?
[11:45] <rudiz> hi..how i get rid of the debian submenu in Applications
[11:45] <sj> jonah: shoujldnt be that way..
[11:46] <THX-1138> mille - I do. - less fear of trying some nifty new app.
 THX-1138, do you think i should make a seperate partition to mount /home on? <<I'm not THX-1138, but yes, that would be a very very very good idea
[11:46] <david83> is it bad to install 2 Versions of Firefox or 2 Versions of kernel modules on my system? does it make the same trouble then in windows?
[11:46] <ruth> cool
[11:46] <Mille> THX-1138, dyn-afk, how big should the root partition be then?
[11:46] <lotusleaf> Do I need ACPI on my desktop box?
[11:46] <dyn-afk> if you screw up ubuntu for some reason you won;t have to worry about the contents in your homedir
[11:47] <ruth> maccam94, great!! thnxs
[11:47] <dyn-afk> I created a 6 GB partition for / but I think 7 or 7.5GB would be better
[11:47] <dyn-afk> it just depends on what you want to install
[11:47] <THX-1138> Mille - at least 2.5 gigs. - I like 5 (apt cache fills tings up fast)
[11:47] <Rug> THX-1138: nice nic
[11:47] <IcemanV9> rudiz: use the menu editor to unclick debian submenu
[11:47] <Mille> i'll go with 7. :-)
[11:47] <dyn-afk> if that's kde with gnome then you'll prolly need more then 7.5 GB
[11:47] <david83> apt autoclean?
[11:47] <dyn-afk> :)
[11:48] <Mille> juse gnome i guess
[11:48] <Mille> just*
[11:48] <lotusleaf> Is there any real reason to have the ACPID service running on a desktop?
[11:48] <Smak> from a default server install, is gdm setup and enabled by default?
[11:48] <Mille> any reasons I shouldn't put the swap at the beggning of the drive?
[11:48] <david83> lotusleaf: yes
[11:48] <Rug> Mille: MBR needs to be at the beginning
[11:48] <dyn-afk> nope Smak it's commandline only (as it should be)
[11:49] <sj> Smak: I dont think so.. you are thrown to terminal mode
[11:49] <lotusleaf> david83: hi, so, without grand details, I should just leave it active?
[11:49] <THX-1138> Rug - "Buy.. Buy more.. Buy more now!" thanks rug
[11:49] <Mille> Rug, so you dont think this will work?
[11:49] <dyn-afk> mbr first, then swap, then everything else
[11:49] <Rug> Mille: you will get best preformance by putting it at the 'end' of the drive anyway.
[11:49] <Mille> i see
[11:49] <Rug> THX-1138: I use it as the host name of my PC
[11:49] <Smak> so gdm is enabled only with the client install.
[11:50] <Rug> Mille: the 'end' of the drive is the outer edge of the disk.
[11:50] <Mille> ok
[11:50] <dyn-afk> outer edge has a longer travel
[11:50] <sj> Smak: you could always apt-get
[11:50] <Mille> i understand
[11:50] <Mille> yeah
[11:50] <THX-1138> Rug - Impatience force my machines to be testy# - no patience
[11:50] <Smak> sjbrown: Oh, i was just wondering.
[11:50] <Smak> err ^^ sj
[11:50] <david83> lotusleaf, so you can hit the powerbutton and the system shut's down if configured properly and for BIOS Hardware things like that
[11:51] <kothz> !guinness
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guinness - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <jordan> How do I map F12 as right click?
[11:51] <Rug> How do I burn audio-CD's from MP3s?
[11:51] <kothz> Sigh.  What kind of well-stocked bot are you?
[11:52] <Smak> Rug: k3b?
[11:52] <THX-1138> kothz - 12step sober bot?
[11:52] <Rug> Smak: I get an error; invaid format
[11:52] <will> Hello! I'm trying to install the latest version of Blender3d (see http://www.blender3d.org).  The version on the repositories is out of date by one version, and coincidentally the latest version added the most important features I need.  So, I must download and build from source.  Does anyone have expierience with this?
[11:52] <david83> how to use that damn WIN-Button?
[11:52] <Ingmar^> does anyone know why i can't seem to play an xvid fluently using _any_ player, and using xv, as video driver ? it used to work on 6.10 LTS, but I doubt it's related to edgy
[11:52] <IcemanV9> !language > david83
[11:52] <jordan> will, Did you check backports first?
[11:52] <dyn-afk> Rug you can use serpentine for creating an audio cd from mp3 files, serpentine is installed by default in ubuntu
[11:53] <david83> sorry Iceman
[11:53] <Rug> dyn-afk: thanks.
[11:53] <dyn-afk> np
[11:53] <sj> david: you could configure your win key (called as Super_L) to anything
[11:53] <cafuego> will: Download the source deb package and replacethe actual sources, keeping the debian/ subdir. Then build a custom .deb.
[11:53] <THX-1138> Ingmar^- vlc
[11:53] <jonah1980_2> i've updated firefox and i just don't get why the mplayer plugin isn't working or even attempting to work in firefox, can anyone help fix it?
[11:53] <Rug> It was working fine vefore a recent apt-get dist-upgrade.  So I don't know what bjorked it
[11:53] <will> jordan:  I'm not very expierienced in linux.  I added multiverse and universe to my repos;  Could you elaborate on how to do this through backports?
[11:53] <Ingmar^> THX-1138: it discards frames on ALL players, including vlc, mplayer, kaffeine & xine-ui
[11:53] <jordan> !backports
[11:53] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:53] <sj> jonah: is mplayer working fine independently? just wondering..
[11:54] <will> cafeugo:  It doesn't have a debian package as far as I know, It just has static and linked i386 sourcecode.
[11:54] <will> going to backports link now
[11:54] <jordan> will, It may not have the version you want, but it is worth checking.
[11:54] <THX-1138> Ingmar^ - No help here. - it works for me.
[11:54] <Ingmar^> THX-1138: thanks for your answer :-)
[11:55] <david83> sj: how to configure Super_L
[11:55] <sj> david: system->pref->keyboard shortcuts
[11:55] <cafuego> will: Yes, use the i386 sourcecode with the current debian build scripts.
[11:56] <rjm> when i move you move
[11:56] <THX-1138> david83 - gconf-editor /apps/metacity commands  key
[11:56] <jordan> How do I map F12 as right click? ( I am using a mac and don't have right click )
[11:57] <will> jordan: I just added the backports and I'm scanning now, if not I guess I'll need to attempt to build it from source
[11:57] <THX-1138> jordan - I haven't done this but xev (if installed) will give you the needed info.
[11:57] <david83> jordan: i guess the same as i do my win-key
[11:58] <kothz> jordan: first link from search result in google: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24868.html
[11:58] <livingdaylight> ;lkjhgfdsagfdsaqpwoeiurytbvncmxz,\.::@{}+_)(*&^%$$"
[11:58] <livingdaylight> can't get my german keyboard to work
[11:58] <livingdaylight> anyone have any idea why the keyboard layout is not working?
[11:58] <will> jordan: The backports do not have the version I need. I'm going to build from source, So far I just downloaded build essentials.  Should I get Static source code or Dynamic?
[11:59] <shodanjr_gr> hello guys!
[11:59] <sj> livingdaylight: maybe you have to restart your xserver
[11:59] <jordan> kothz, I have already tried those instructions and they didn't work :(
[11:59] <shodanjr_gr> anyone got some time for a couple of Qs?
[11:59] <THX-1138> livingdaylight - there is a rules file in /etc/x11/xkbd/ - still working on your question.
[11:59] <livingdaylight> sj: HMMM..
[11:59] <jordan> !ask
[11:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:59] <shodanjr_gr> hehehe
[11:59] <shodanjr_gr> well
[11:59] <shodanjr_gr> i got a laptop
[11:59] <Mille> THX-1138, and tip you can give of things i should read when starting to use ubuntu? after my last installation i had some problem getting mp3's to work. I found a python program called 'easyubuntu' that installed all necessery thingys. You got any other tip?
[11:59] <livingdaylight> THX-1138: i don't follow?
[11:59] <shodanjr_gr> with an 80gig HDD
[11:59] <shodanjr_gr> and i wana dual boot XP + Ubuntu
[12:00] <ArrenLex> !enter >shodanjr_gr
[12:00] <livingdaylight> THX-1138: i need to co into /etx/x11/xkbd?
[12:00] <SkramX> I boot up the livecd and my screen is just blank
[12:00] <shodanjr_gr> but i want to be able to share files between the two OSes, and as far as i know, XP can not read Linux partitions. What would be the best way to do this?
[12:00] <NemesisUK> SkramX, is it a laptop
[12:00] <ArrenLex> shodanjr: make a third fat32 partition for this purpose.
[12:00] <THX-1138> livingdaylight - there is a conf file "xorg" in /etc/X11/xkbd/rules - still deciphering it. - doh
[12:01] <david83> Mille: install mplayer or vlc !
[12:01] <Mille> shodanjr_gr, there is a driver for ext2/3 support.
[12:01] <SkramX> NemesisUK: indeed
[12:01] <will> Could someone explain to me what the difference between Static and Dynamic source code is? I need to pick one to download.
[12:01] <dan_> for those interested you can download for free a fully functional cad program for linux at the following url http://www.cad-schroer.com/medusa.php?land=com&scr=1.1
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> shodanjr_gr: might be of interest: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236